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Got a Big Hamas Fish

Middle East | Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 9:37:44 am PST

A senior Hamas freakazoid cleric considered the successor of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin won’t be sending any more of his children into Israel as suicidal mass murderers.

Sheikh Nizar Rayyan, 52, a senior Hamas leader and cleric, was killed along with several others on Thursday when an IAF aircraft dropped a bomb on the eight-story Jabalya apartment building he lived in, the IDF said.

Palestinian medics said that nine people were killed, including two of Rayyan’s four wives and four of his 12 children, and around 30 were wounded in the air strike. ...

Security officials said that Rayyan was not only the religious leader of Hamas’s military wing, Izzadin Kassam, but also one of their military commanders. He was often seen in uniform, and participated in military exercises. He was considered one of the most fanatical Hamas commanders, and was said to be close to Hamas terrorist Salah Shehadeh, who was killed by the IAF in 2002.

In October 2001, he sent his son to perpetrate a suicide attack in the Gush Katif settlement Elei Sinai, in which two young Israelis were killed.

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1 Macker  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:39:00am

Six Days, Bitch!

2 MurphyB  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:39:01am

Looks like a fish.

3 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:40:02am

Can we wrap him up in the New York Times?

(Now, I'm off to watch the Winter Classic. Had to get that snark in first.)

4 pat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:40:19am

Indeed. And 2 of his favorite wives.

5 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:40:37am

Good news for 2009.

6 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:40:42am

Nice beard.

7 Macker  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:41:20am

re: #2 MurphyB

Looks like a fish.

Well he sure as hell ain't Saruman or Wormtongue is he!

8 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:41:34am

"Rayyan's house was serving as an arms and ammunition warehouse..."

9 Tumulus11  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:41:47am

. It was written.

10 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:42:13am

re: #6 MandyManners

Nice beard.

Correction: Was a nice beard. Now, not so much.

11 hurricane_jimmy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:42:32am

Adios, muchacho. It's about time someone took out the trash.

12 Sizzlack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:42:32am

Na na na na...Na na na na...Hey hey hey

Goodbye.

13 jorline  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:42:39am

Pop goes the weasel.

Youtube Video

14 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:43:16am

Starting the New Year off with a bang?

15 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:43:25am

"According to Palestinian sources, his family was warned before the attack but did not leave the building, Army Radio reported."

So, he qualifies for the 72?

16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:43:36am

What's the expression? Something about riddance and rubbish?

17 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:43:43am

Memo to IDF:
Keep up the good work until they're ALL screaming uncle!

18 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:43:54am

Buh-bye.

19 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:43:58am

re: #10 coquimbojoe

Correction: Was a nice beard. Now, not so much.

A bit singed, eh?

20 jaunte  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:44:09am

re: #10 coquimbojoe

It was the last thing that went through his mind. That or the tablecloth.

21 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:44:10am

Strike Kills Hamas Leader as Israel Demands Global Monitors for Truce

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I don't get the International Monitors part? What good are they gonna do but be partial and get in the way? What the fuck is a "Monitor" suppose to do? Verify a missile was shot off? I mean when it lands in a kindergarten in Asdod, I think we'll know!

22 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:44:19am

re: #11 hurricane_jimmy

Adios, muchacho. It's about time someone took out the trash.

The IAF has been doing just that.

23 eaglewingz08  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:44:27am

Gee I wonder how that's gonna work out for him in the afterlife? I mean this terrorist already had his maximum four wives, how is he gonna deal with another 72? And with his kids there as well? And what if those other seventy two virgins get pregnant. Might get preeetty ugly on the other side. (Oh, sorry I forgot muslim women/wives don't go to heaven, just the menfolk.)

24 WayDownSouthInBama  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:44:35am

It's nice to see a terrorist "leader" get the chance to do what they ask of their subordinates.

25 anotherindyfilmguy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:44:44am

re: #15 FightingBack

Social evolution in action... "hey they're gonna bomb this place get the kids out.... no Ackmehd better they go with us than live and carry on the family name..."

26 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:44:46am

re: #15 FightingBack

"According to Palestinian sources, his family was warned before the attack but did not leave the building, Army Radio reported."

So, he qualifies for the 72?

I think since he had 4 wives that is 72-4 = 68?

27 Macker  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:44:58am

re: #17 Taqyia2Me

Memo to IDF:
Keep up the good work until they're ALL screaming uncle!

Preferably, not screaming at all!

28 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:45:00am

" We are taking every precaution to guard the Hamas leaders in order to ensure the enemy doesn't score further victories."

Well, except one.

29 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:45:01am

Word is his New Year's party was a real blast.

30 itellu3times  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:45:04am

It is an insult to fish to refer to him as one.

31 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:46:00am

re: #19 MandyManners

A bit singed, eh?

The burnt hair smell probably, for the first time, masks the BO and halitosis this guy was sure to have. Stanky alive, stanky dead.

/On that note, Happy New Year to you and yours, Mandalicious!

32 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:46:04am

re: #23 eaglewingz08

Gee I wonder how that's gonna work out for him in the afterlife? I mean this terrorist already had his maximum four wives, how is he gonna deal with another 72? And with his kids there as well? And what if those other seventy two virgins get pregnant. Might get preeetty ugly on the other side. (Oh, sorry I forgot muslim women/wives don't go to heaven, just the menfolk.)

Muslim women don't go to heaven? They're ok with that, too?

33 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:46:28am

He's pining for the fjords.

34 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:46:47am

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

Word is his New Year's party was a real blast.

But the hangover is very difficult to get over.

35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:46:55am

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

Word is his New Year's party was a real blast.

"Hey, the pizza's here. Somebody get the door. I can hear the whistling of the pizza guy!"

36 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:47:09am

re: #33 Killgore Trout

He's pining for the fjords.

I thout e trives a chevie?

37 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:47:11am

"We are waiting for you to enter Gaza to kill you or make you into Schalits," the group said. IDF soldier Gilad Schalit was seized in a cross-border raid by Hamas-affiliated terrorists 2 1/2 years ago, and remains in captivity in Gaza."

Waiting for this quote to make the MSM.

38 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:47:15am

re: #28 FightingBack

" We are taking every precaution to guard the Hamas leaders in order to ensure the enemy doesn't score further victories."

Well, except one.

Hiding them in the kindergardens, are ye?

39 Sparkizzy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:47:17am

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

Word is his New Year's party was a real blast.

A groaner that had to be updinged

40 Tumulus11  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:48:49am
'He was considered one of the most fanatical Hamas commanders ...'

. This is another learning opportunity for the Primitives.

41 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:48:51am

re: #31 coquimbojoe

Happy New Year to you and yours, too!

42 Shug  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:48:59am

Hamas leaders and fish have something in common

both start to smell after a few days

43 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:49:11am

Nice shootin', Tex!

44 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:49:27am

Nizar Rayyan considered successor of Ahmed Yassin

And the line forms for the next leader right over here..........?

45 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:49:55am

Really asking here: What is the Israeli endgame for the current military action?

46 coquimbojoe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:50:01am

re: #42 Shug

Hamas leaders and fish have something in common

both start to smell after a few days

I have the impression that Hamas leaders have a head start.

/Just sayin'

47 Macker  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:50:03am

re: #35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Hey, the pizza's here. Somebody get the door. I can hear the whistling of the pizza guy!"

"Hey Hamas! Did you order a pepperoni pizza? Well here's the pizza...AND HERE'S THE PEPPERONI!"

/Cheech_y_Chong

48 Shug  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:50:06am

My favorite image of Sheikh Sheikh yassin was the one where the back of his head was missing

49 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:50:11am
an IAF aircraft dropped a bomb on the eight-story Jabalya apartment building he lived in, the IDF said.

Yeah, they dropped a 2000 lb. GBU-31.

/they must have had fool proof intelligence that he was inside the building to claim they got him for sure, because it'll take days to find any remains in what's left of that structure

50 Blackacre  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:50:17am

Here's what I don't get. This guy and his extended family lived in an eight story building. The Israelis abandoned Gaza years ago and Gaza has been the subject of self-rule (for better or worse -- and we know which). Yet, the article refers to all of this as a "Gaza refugee camp." Refugee -- from what? Camp -- where are the pup tents? Why the insistence on this phrase?

For an excellent essay by a proverbial moderate Muslim read the linked article. Read the whole thing.

51 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:50:28am

re: #35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Hey, the pizza's here. Somebody get the door. I can hear the whistling of the pizza guy!"

Capped in 30 minutes, or the next terrorist is free!

52 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:51:18am

re: #45 FightingBack

Really asking here: What is the Israeli endgame for the current military action?

Eliminate or at least significantly degrade the smuggling tunnels and the rocket stockpiles, and thin out the terrorists.

53 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:51:22am

re: #45 FightingBack

Really asking here: What is the Israeli endgame for the current military action?

When Ariel Sharon regains consciousness, we'll let you know.

54 itellu3times  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:52:20am

re: #45 FightingBack

Really asking here: What is the Israeli endgame for the current military action?

I don't think they have one. Maybe this is just all about getting through the day. One expects more in the way of insight and strategy from Israel, but in this case, maybe not.

55 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:52:29am

Just saw the video of the destroyed building.

If Israel was "carpet bombing" civilians, why would there be crowds of "civilians" gathered around the rubble, apparently not worried about getting blown up?

Israeli's are the ones in shelters.

Of course that's only heroic if you're British.

56 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:52:29am

re: #50 Blackacre

Here's what I don't get. This guy and his extended family lived in an eight story building. The Israelis abandoned Gaza years ago and Gaza has been the subject of self-rule (for better or worse -- and we know which). Yet, the article refers to all of this as a "Gaza refugee camp." Refugee -- from what? Camp -- where are the pup tents? Why the insistence on this phrase?

For an excellent essay by a proverbial moderate Muslim read the linked article. Read the whole thing.

Don't forget they all have satellite TV.

57 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:52:41am

re: #13 jorline

Pop goes the weasel.


[Video]

perrrfect....good on!re: #21 Nevergiveup

Strike Kills Hamas Leader as Israel Demands Global Monitors for Truce

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I don't get the International Monitors part? What good are they gonna do but be partial and get in the way? What the fuck is a "Monitor" suppose to do? Verify a missile was shot off? I mean when it lands in a kindergarten in Asdod, I think we'll know!

monitors...get a few US television producers, a few Arabs and Persians, toss in some military experts from the West and some bozos from the UN....see what kind of consensus they come up with....someone will be exposed as a fraud and liar...

58 gringo69  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:53:12am

Hey terroristas ! die you idiots.! GOGO IDF GOGO IDF!YEAH YEAH! The terror business is getting a little tough!

59 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:53:19am

The Palestinians are trying to claim that the truck in this stike was transporting oxygen.....
Suspicion: bombed truck carried oxygen tanks and not grad rockets

B’Tselem received the testimony of Ahmad Sanur, the owner of the truck bombed. Sanur claims the truck was carrying oxygen canisters used for welding, not Grad rockets. B'Tselem field worker took photos of oxygen canisters left on the site of the bombing.

According to Sanur’s testimony, he and members of his family were trying to salvage material from a metal workshop he owns, which was next door to a bombed house, in order to prevent looting. He denies any connection to militants, or military activity, and is willing to talk to any journalist, or investigator.

With photo "evidence". I'm waiting for the MSM to pick this up.

60 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:53:30am

Rayyan wasn't in hiding, was defying Israel to strike him.
I'll grant that he had balls.

/past tense ... hoooie!

61 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:54:12am

Great shooting IAF! well done.
One less evil bastard in the world. Hope he enjoys his 72 raisins in the fires of hell...

62 LilyGecko  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:54:15am

2009 is off to an excellent start!

63 Summer  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:54:25am

I know some will take a somber outlook about morality and death of any people as being a serious matter etc....

...but...

...this news made me actually break out in a big smile this morning for about 10 minutes while I drank my coffee and thought about a wonderful new year. =)

Yes, really. =)

64 itellu3times  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:54:26am

re: #59 Killgore Trout

The Palestinians are trying to claim that the truck in this stike was transporting oxygen.....

I don't believe oxygen is mentioned in the Koran.

65 jorline  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:54:35am

On a day with tons of College Football Bowl games.

Look for the IDF to establish a strong ground game soon, they're killing Hamas through the air.

66 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:55:08am

re: #49 Killian Bundy

Yeah, they dropped a 2000 lb. GBU-31.

/they must have had fool proof intelligence that he was inside the building to claim they got him for sure, because it'll take days to find any remains in what's left of that structure

Yeah, intelligence-
You just know that there are a ton of Palestinians who get it and know who bears the real responsibility for their misery.

67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:55:18am

Yochanan here?

68 WayDownSouthInBama  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:55:47am

re: #54 itellu3times

Dead terrorists is always a good strategy don't you think?

69 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:55:54am

re: #52 The Sanity Inspector

Eliminate or at least significantly degrade the smuggling tunnels and the rocket stockpiles, and thin out the terrorists.

the total inability of Hamas to rule...break the faith between Hamas and the Gazans....create a sort of controlled chaos...it's starting to happen

70 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:56:16am

re: #65 jorline

On a day with tons of College Football Bowl games.

Look for the IDF to establish a strong ground game soon, they're killing Hamas through the air.

I hear they have appointed Woody Hayes to the General Staff?

71 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:56:21am

re: #64 itellu3times

They must be magical oxygen tanks to have survived such blast.

72 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:57:17am

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Aren't Oxygen canisters colored green?

73 Sparkizzy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:57:18am

re: #63 Summer

I know some will take a somber outlook about morality and death of any people as being a serious matter etc....

...but...

...this news made me actually break out in a big smile this morning for about 10 minutes while I drank my coffee and thought about a wonderful new year. =)

Yes, really. =)

That makes you a sadistic Zionist bastard who doesn't care about the plight of the Palestinian people and their democratically elected government.
///

74 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:57:18am

re: #65 jorline
I think they're waiting for the ground to dry out. It rained quite a bit and tracked vehicles make good targets when stuck in the mud. Plus urban warfare is very nasty stuff.

75 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:57:43am

re: #71 Killgore Trout

They must be magical oxygen tanks to have survived such blast.

Paging the Dissident Frogman.

76 Pickles  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:58:24am

Hamas and the rest of the terrorists have not only Israeli blood but the blood of their own children on their hands. Good for the IDF.

77 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:58:34am

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yochanan here?

I DON'T KNOW.

78 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:58:36am

This is- *gag!* *wretch!*- great news and makes me -*wretch* - *cough cough*- feel much better after last night -*rrrrraaaaaaalllllllpppppphhhhh!*.

Oh G-d.

It always feels better if you don't fight it and let it all come up.

79 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:58:55am

re: #74 pingjockey

I think they're waiting for the ground to dry out. It rained quite a bit and tracked vehicles make good targets when stuck in the mud. Plus urban warfare is very nasty stuff.

Yeah, I seem to remember something about Germans, Panzers, Mud and Russia?

80 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:59:01am

re: #75 Bloodnok
I don't know. I work at a place that does O2 for medical and welding gasses and those tanks are pretty stout.

81 jorline  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:59:19am

re: #70 Nevergiveup

I hear they have appointed Woody Hayes to the General Staff?

lol...they know Woody would head-slap anyone who gets out of line or tackle the opponent from the sideline.

82 Alouette  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:59:38am

re: #48 Shug

My favorite image of Sheikh Sheikh yassin was the one where the back of his head was missing

This is my favorite Yassin pic.

83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:59:38am

re: #77 MandyManners

Thanks!

84 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 9:59:39am

re: #76 Pickles

Hamas and the rest of the terrorists have not only Israeli blood but the blood of their own children on their hands. Good for the IDF.

If they cared one iota about their own kids, we would have had peace eons ago?

85 callahan23  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:00:00am

re: #47 Macker

"Hey Hamas! Did you order a pepperoni pizza? Well here's the pizza...AND HERE'S THE PEPPERONI!"

/Cheech_y_Chong

Don't make fun of pizza in connection with Hamas. /

I just yesterday ordered 'Pizza for a on Active Duty (5 soldiers) IDF'.
For real!

86 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:00:11am

re: #77 MandyManners

I DON'T KNOW.

Throw in a "Chimay Ale" and I'd swear you were him!

87 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:00:22am

re: #79 Nevergiveup
Yep. Plus those hamassholes probably have a crap load of rpgs and of course don't wear uniforms.

88 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:00:28am

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks!

YOU'RE WELCOME.

89 Summer  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:00:44am

re: #73 Sparkizzy

That makes you a sadistic Zionist bastard who doesn't care about the plight of the Palestinian people and their democratically elected government.
///

The word is "bitch" for a girl, but i'll sorta let you slide. =)

And yup...I am. I have as much compassion for Palestinians being bombed right now as I would have had for Germans being bombed in World War II. They wanted it, they got it. =)

90 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:00:57am

re: #82 Alouette

This is my favorite Yassin pic.

good one

91 Alouette  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:01:11am

re: #85 callahan23

Don't make fun of pizza in connection with Hamas. /

I just yesterday ordered 'Pizza for a on Active Duty (5 soldiers) IDF'.
For real!

SEND PIZZA TO THE IDF

92 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:01:20am

re: #82 Alouette

This is my favorite Yassin pic.

Actually I don't have it at my fingertips, but wasn't there a picture of his wheelchair all busted up after his demise?

93 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:01:34am

Patti Ann Browne . . .

Youtube Video

/FOX NEWS ALERT

94 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:01:47am

Achmed the dead terrorist's agent is trying to sign him, as a straight man for Achmed's act...

95 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:02:00am

re: #60 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Rayyan wasn't in hiding, was defying Israel to strike him.
I'll grant that he had balls.

/past tense ... hoooie!

Yep - 'suicide by IAF'.

96 Alouette  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:02:35am

re: #94 Dustyvet

Achmed the dead terrorist's agent is trying to sign him, as a straight man for Achmed's act...

I KEEL YOU!

97 angrywhitedude  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:02:39am

Mess with the bull, you get the horn! Happy Trails, Haji! One down, a few billion more to go!

AWD

98 SurferDoc  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:03:00am

Whoever he thought he was yesterday, today he is just another dead motherfucker.

99 callahan23  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:03:19am

re: #91 Alouette

SEND PIZZA TO THE IDF

Thanks for that link.

I completely forgot, my mistake. I am not worthy?!?
/

100 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:03:52am

Well, Nizar, now you know that a collapsing building is to heavy to catch, and it kills you, just like many Americans found out on 9-11;

& well have you learned your lesson.

101 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:04:18am

re: #96 Alouette

I KEEL YOU!

Silence...:)

102 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:04:19am

re: #98 SurferDoc

Whoever he thought he was yesterday, today he is just another dead motherfucker.

If you just condense that a wee bit, I see a NY POST cover headline in the making?

103 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:05:28am

re: #93 Killian Bundy

Patti Ann Browne . . .


/FOX NEWS ALERT

Sith Lord Darth Hottius!

104 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:05:47am

"Help Israel"
[Link: elderofziyon.blogspot.com...]

Standing Together - morale boosting org , helping the IDF
[Link: www.stogether.org...]

PizzaIDF - pizzas and burgers for troops in the field
[Link: pizzaidf.org...]

Zaka - emergency response organisation
[Link: www.zaka.us...]

Afmda - Israel's equivalent to the Red Cross
[Link: www.afmda.org...]

105 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:05:53am

Today, Burris' lawyers took the first legal action in what could be a prolonged court fight, seeking to force Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White to certify Blagojevich's paperwork making the appointment.

Should Burris appear in Washington without that certification, armed police officers stand ready to bar him from the Senate floor, said a Democratic official briefed on Senate leaders' plans.


[Link: www.chicagobreakingnews.com...]

This should be better than most of the Bowl games.

106 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:06:11am

re: #59 Killgore Trout

So? welding is an industrial process used in the making of rockets. Legitimate target.

107 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:06:18am

re: #95 yma o hyd

Yep - 'suicide by IAF'.

Notice the size of the bomb which was used.
Probably intended to penetrate to the escape tunnel under Rayyan's home.

/I'll bet the rent payment it was sophisticated sh*t

108 Sparkizzy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:06:23am

re: #89 Summer

Women...

(shakes head)

109 Right Brain  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:06:45am

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Don't miss cover of the London Times where he has been upgraded to a "University Professor!"

110 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:07:04am

re: #105 Nevergiveup

Popcorn time

111 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:07:24am

re: #8 FightingBack

"Rayyan's house was serving as an arms and ammunition warehouse..."

And his family was warned but did not leave the house.

112 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:07:46am

re: #106 Ojoe

So? welding is an industrial process used in the making of rockets. Legitimate target.

And trucks (not carrying baby milk) are legitimate targets, too.

113 opnion  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:07:47am

He sends his own son on a suicide mission? We are a universe away fro this kind of mind set. How do you negotiate? There really does not seem to be any common ground.

114 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:08:00am

re: #85 callahan23

Don't make fun of pizza in connection with Hamas. /

I just yesterday ordered 'Pizza for a on Active Duty (5 soldiers) IDF'.
For real!

awesome. those guys'n'gals are gonna need a lot of morale boosting - going into hornets nets of Hamastan wont be easy.

115 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:08:17am

re: #111 reine.de.tout

And his family was warned but did not leave the house.

What kind of father would surround himself with his kids in a fucking war zone?!

116 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:08:33am

re: #111 reine.de.tout

And his family was warned but did not leave the house.

I wonder if those wives and kids who did not leave the house were under any sort of pressure to stay. I wonder if he deliberately "sacrificed" his wives and children to this cause.

117 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:08:40am

re: #111 reine.de.tout
Quite simple really, IAF says get out, you stay, BOOM! Hey what's with these raisins?

118 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:08:59am

re: #93 Killian Bundy
Killian, that's a fucking scream! Where the heck did you find that one?!?

119 Lincolntf  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:09:02am

re: #105 Nevergiveup

The Dems literally barring the door to a legally appointed black Senator who is accused of no wrongdoing.
If this were a Republican scandal, the Hague would already be involved.

120 Luigi  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:09:20am
and was said to be close to Hamas terrorist Salah Shehadeh, who was killed by the IAF in 2002.


He's even closer now.

121 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:09:21am

re: #113 opnion

He sends his own son on a suicide mission?

At that point he is no longer a member of my species.

122 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:09:30am

re: #115 MandyManners

What kind of father would surround himself with his kids in a fucking war zone?!

Well, exactly. AND what kind of father would fail to make sure his family was safe by getting them out of the house when they were given the warning?

123 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:09:30am

re: #116 reine.de.tout

I wonder if those wives and kids who did not leave the house were under any sort of pressure to stay. I wonder if he deliberately "sacrificed" his wives and children to this cause.

Oh, you know it.

124 Summer  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:09:37am

re: #108 Sparkizzy

Women...

(shakes head)

Infuriating, isn't it? =)

125 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:09:45am

re: #113 opnion

He sends his own son on a suicide mission? We are a universe away fro this kind of mind set. How do you negotiate? There really does not seem to be any common ground.

as Denis Prager says - there are two species of human on this planet.
Those who love life - and those who enjoy death.

126 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:09:47am

re: #116 reine.de.tout
Yep. More martyrs to their bloodthirsty "god".

127 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:09:56am
128 iam7545  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:10:04am

Am Yisael Chai!

129 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:10:10am

Even at this time, Israeli moonbats would rather show the world their delusions that stand with their Armed forces:
Dozens of left-wing activists are currently demonstrating outside the Prime Minister's Residence in Jerusalem, in protest against the IDF operation in Gaza.

130 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:10:22am

re: #118 realwest

Killian, that's a fucking scream! Where the heck did you find that one?!?

/YouTube

131 jcbunga  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:10:28am

...so, they're hiring?

/

132 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:10:29am

re: #125 buzzdroid

The death species is not human

133 Cathypop  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:10:32am

That is a waste of oxygen that will not be missed

134 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:11:15am

re: #113 opnion

With all those wives, I imagine he had plenty of them. They were disposable. One of the ugly side effects of their system.
If there's one wife and kids, you're a lot closer to the outcomes. As Lizards here will attest.
Cultural equivalence, my foot.

135 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:11:21am

Not that I give a f*ck at all, but:

Americans Closely Divided Over Israel’s Gaza Attacks

At the mall and at the elections when thousands of rockets were fired into civilian centers.

One mortar into the Green Zone? Holocaust.

136 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:11:24am

re: #119 Lincolntf

The Dems literally barring the door to a legally appointed black Senator who is accused of no wrongdoing.
If this were a Republican scandal, the Hague would already be involved.

You'll find more spines in jelly fish, then you'll ever find in the DNC.

137 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:11:27am

re: #113 opnion

He sends his own son on a suicide mission? We are a universe away fro this kind of mind set. How do you negotiate? There really does not seem to be any common ground.

That is so far from the reality we all know that one wonders why libs don't get it - why they think peace can be achieved by sitting down and talking about it.


Sometimes you just gotta get in the dirt.

138 Sparkizzy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:11:45am

re: #124 Summer

What's the point if it's even possible to insult you incorrectly?

139 callahan23  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:11:55am

re: #114 buzzdroid

awesome. those guys'n'gals are gonna need a lot of morale boosting - going into hornets nets of Hamastan wont be easy.

Right!
They should be gettin' a whole lot more than any of us could give for their service to humanity.

140 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:12:09am

re: #122 reine.de.tout

Well, exactly. AND what kind of father would fail to make sure his family was safe by getting them out of the house when they were given the warning?

One that felt his wife and kids were not people but property

141 kynna  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:12:36am

re: #115 MandyManners

What kind of father would surround himself with his kids in a fucking war zone?!

It seems to be the point of the Islamist's families' existence. To be human shields for their monster males.

142 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:12:54am

re: #113 opnion

He sends his own son on a suicide mission? We are a universe away fro this kind of mind set. How do you negotiate? There really does not seem to be any common ground.

There is indeed no common ground - and I wish a few more of our politicinas and jornalists would open their eyes and see.

After all, there is striking evidence (sorry about the pun) that the IDF has been reading Islam's 'Holy' book, and learned to apply some of the precepts, turning them against the islamic terorrists.

143 freedombilly  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:13:35am

Another Christmas Miracle!

144 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:13:53am

re: #113 opnion
Happy New Year opnion! You can't negotiate with murderous barbarians who only desire, indeed relish, death.
All you can do is send them their special brand of "love".
And keep sending it til they've had all the love they can handle.

145 SurferDoc  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:14:03am

re: #113 opnion

He sends his own son on a suicide mission? We are a universe away fro this kind of mind set. How do you negotiate? There really does not seem to be any common ground.

The only common ground is the cemetery.

146 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:14:09am

Is there still time to send John Kerry to Gaza on a fact finding mission?

147 Summer  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:14:14am

re: #138 Sparkizzy

What's the point if it's even possible to insult you incorrectly?

With some men, these things just take time... =)

148 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:14:32am

re: #146 Dustyvet

Is there still time to send John Kerry to Gaza on a fact finding mission?

About 19 days

149 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:14:57am

re: #146 Dustyvet
Jon halp uz Kary couldn't find Gaza with a GPS system.

150 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:15:08am

re: #132 Ojoe

The death species is not human

indeed.

151 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:15:18am

re: #148 Nevergiveup

About 19 days

Calling the IAF...:)

152 opnion  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:15:34am

re: #134 FightingBack

With all those wives, I imagine he had plenty of them. They were disposable. One of the ugly side effects of their system.
If there's one wife and kids, you're a lot closer to the outcomes. As Lizards here will attest.
Cultural equivalence, my foot.

Yeah the all cultures are equal thing is silly. If you have multiple wives & scads of kids that mean little to you, your culture is inferior.

153 jaunte  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:15:36am

re: #135 Ben Hur

I wonder how Rasmussen screens for ignorance when they conduct those polls.
There's a section of opinion there that's described as "following the news" out of Gaza, but that's a pretty loose definition for 'informed.'

Sixty-seven percent (67%) of those who say they are following news out of Gaza Very Closely support Israel's military action, while 30% favor diplomacy.
154 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:15:40am

re: #93 Killian Bundy

Patti Ann Browne . . .


[Video]

/FOX NEWS ALERT

that was great!
You know what makes it really funny - Patti Ann Brown is so gorgeous, and in such a wholesome, girl-next-door sort of way. She looks like she would be serving communion at church (and maybe she does!). And to hear that stuff coming from her while she maintains a completely straight face - it's hilarious!

155 EmmmieG  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:15:49am

I guess this is the difference between us and them. In a war, my husband would stand between us and the danger, not behind us, using us as a shield.

156 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:16:17am

re: #129 yma o hyd
Gotta tell ya, those "leftwingers" are protesting while in the middle of a war for Israel's survival.
Don't know about Israeli law, but I know what I'd do with 'em.

157 Sparkizzy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:16:43am

re: #147 Summer

With some men, these things just take time... =)

Hehe

158 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:17:06am

re: #130 Killian Bundy
Yeah, I sorta figured that out, but I'm wondering if it was from a SNL skit or somesuch?

159 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:17:17am

re: #142 yma o hyd

After all, there is striking evidence (sorry about the pun) that the IDF has been reading Islam's 'Holy' book, and learned to apply some of the precepts, turning them against the islamic terorrists.

thats interesting! you got any examples of that?

160 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:17:27am

re: #154 reine.de.tout

that was great!
You know what makes it really funny - Patti Ann Brown is so gorgeous, and in such a wholesome, girl-next-door sort of way. She looks like she would be serving communion at church (and maybe she does!). And to hear that stuff coming from her while she maintains a completely straight face - it's hilarious!

Okay now I have to go back upthread and watch it.

161 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:17:52am

re: #146 Dustyvet

Is there still time to send John Kerry to Gaza on a fact finding mission?

He's been. Nixon sent him.

162 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:18:00am

re: #148 Nevergiveup

About 19 days

Wait one, we need to make this a joint-fact finding mission...Murtha goes as well...:)

163 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:18:20am

re: #156 realwest

Gotta tell ya, those "leftwingers" are protesting while in the middle of a war for Israel's survival.
Don't know about Israeli law, but I know what I'd do with 'em.

Same prob here. And here, their friends (sorry, acquaintance) get elected Pres.

164 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:18:38am

re: #49 Killian Bundy

Yeah, they dropped a 2000 lb. GBU-31.

/they must have had fool proof intelligence that he was inside the building to claim they got him for sure, because it'll take days to find any remains in what's left of that structure

From a link in the spinoffs...

Israeli F-16 jets fired two missiles at Rayan's five-storey house in the Jabaliya refugee camp in northern Gaza. The powerful explosion hurled his decapitated body out into the street, according to witnesses.

They need to find his head I would think unless his entire wardrobe consisted of one pile of rags.

165 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:18:41am

Let’s talk about justice

David Moria, whose son was killed by terrorists, has no sympathy for Gazans who celebrated in streets

About 10 months ago, after our 16-year-old son was murdered in a terror attack along with seven of his friends, TV screens worldwide showed festive images from Gaza that included dances, the handing out of sweets, and gleeful shots fired in the air – alongside the terrible images of the blood-soaked library at the Mercaz Harav yeshiva in Jerusalem.

I won’t deny the fact that the current images from Gaza elegantly circumvent my humanistic instinct and make their way to a satisfying sense of the most primitive desire for revenge. Yet my sense of justice has also been satisfied. Moreover, anyone living in this country knows that soon we shall again see the images of the blood of innocent Jews, and again Gaza residents will be celebrating it.

166 Erik The Red  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:18:49am

re: #146 Dustyvet

Is there still time to send John Kerry to Gaza on a fact finding mission?

Can Al join him to investigate glowbull warming?

167 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:19:10am

re: #125 buzzdroid

as Denis Prager says - there are two species of human on this planet.
Those who love life - and those who enjoy death.

Used literally, it's inappropriate as hell, but I like the general idea of our military adopting a nom de guerre like the "Islamist Make-A-Wish Foundation".

/slogan? ... "Come to us for your heart's desire"

168 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:19:23am

re: #158 realwest

Nah. FNC has a show on at 10 or 11pm and they do silly news stuff, outrageous commentary on current events, etc...

169 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:19:51am

britain pledges $10 million in "aid" to gaza
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

bumbling idiots - dont they know that Hamas controls all aid reaching Gaza and then sells it on at extortionate prices...

"aid" = funding the terrorists.

170 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:19:55am

re: #166 Erik The Red

Can Al join him to investigate glowbull warming?

Sure, but then we need to send Reid as well

171 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:19:57am

Al Jazeera picks of the oxygen tank story.....
Disputed targets of Israeli air strikes (Hamas Grad Rockets)

Liveleak Video

172 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:20:49am

re: #135 Ben Hur
Hey Ben - from your link

Forty-four percent (44%) say Israel should have taken military action against the Palestinians, but 41% say it should have tried to find a diplomatic solution to the problems there, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Fifteen percent (15%) are undecided.

Fifty-five percent (55%) of adults, however, believe the Palestinians are to blame for the current situation in Gaza, while 13% point the finger at the Israelis. Nearly one-third (32%) aren’t sure.


So what is that 44% comprised of - children?!
Effin stupid poll anyway.

173 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:21:31am

re: #39 Sparkizzy

A groaner that had to be updinged

I just couldn't resist.

174 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:21:45am

Hockey at Wrigley Field! Awesome.

175 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:22:31am

re: #158 realwest

Yeah, I sorta figured that out, but I'm wondering if it was from a SNL skit or somesuch?

She's a regular on Red Eye

176 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:22:41am

re: #173 JammieWearingFool
It was begging to be said by someone!

177 jaunte  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:22:49am

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Next on Mythbusters: Can a bomb dent an oxygen tank?

178 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:22:52am

re: #168 pingjockey

Nah. FNC has a show on at 10 or 11pm and they do silly news stuff, outrageous commentary on current events, etc...

PAB was funny - what a riot! Hard to imagine those words coming out of her - think I will never look at Brian Kilmeade the same again---"packed and stacked" gives a visual ya' know what I mean?

179 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:23:01am

re: #89 Summer

re: #73 Sparkizzy
That makes you a sadistic Zionist bastard who doesn't care about the plight of the Palestinian people and their democratically elected government.
///

The word is "bitch" for a girl, but i'll sorta let you slide. =)

And yup...I am. I have as much compassion for Palestinians being bombed right now as I would have had for Germans being bombed in World War II. They wanted it, they got it. =)

Good grief, Summer! The guy had three sarc tags (///). And, FYI, technically, "bastard" is any non-gender-specific illegitimate child.

You want to be called a bitch...? You might get what you wish for... Lighten up!


re: #108 Sparkizzy

Women...

(shakes head)

Take that back... you... you... Men!

///////////////////////////////

180 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:23:02am

re: #146 Dustyvet
Nah, he'd just get lost again - probably in the French Riviera, as opposed to Cambodia (though you can never tell with LT Kerry) though.

181 Mini_Burkha_Fan  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:23:05am

Hmmn, let's see... a normal shahid gets his 72 virgins and 300 white horses. (BTW, the combinations are mind-boggling!)

Now, what happens if he already had 2 wives? Does he get half that amount, or double?

182 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:23:05am

Iranian Student Organization: Hamas a Terrorist Group

The Iranian daily Kargozaran reported that the student union Daftar-e Tahkim-e Vahdat (Teif-Alameh), while condemning the Israeli attack on Gaza, also condemned Hamas, calling it "a terrorist group... that uses children and hospitals as human shields." In response, the daily Kayhan and the news agency IRNA condemned the both student union and Kargozaran, which has been issued a closing order by the Iranian authorities, calling them "traitors" and "collaborators with Israel."

183 Erik The Red  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:23:28am

re: #170 Dustyvet

Sure, but then we need to send Reid as well

Whats the biggest plane that can land in Gaza? I can think of a few more.

184 SurferDoc  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:23:31am

"The Americans love Pepsi-Cola, we love death."

I'm drinking a Pepsi and you are dead.

185 opinionated  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:23:35am

TAGHREED EL-KHODARY

Know the name? I didn't. Never paid any attention.

It's the name on the NY Times byline from Gaza. A New York Times "Journalist"

I turned on CNN yesterday and saw and heard the last few minutes of a phone interview with a woman who sounded like a Hamas propagandist. I thought I was mistaken when the CNN anchor referred to her as a NY Times correspondent.

Today, again, I saw her being interviewed by CNN.

The Hamas line, word by word.

This guy Nizar Rayyan wanted to be a martyr and that why he stayed at home. He was not afraid. She repeated how committed he was to being a martyr. His actions implied to be heroic.

Then she lamented that kids were killed in the attack.

CNN didn't bother to ask why if this guy knew he was on Israel's hit list AND WANTED TO BE A MARTYR, did he surround himself with his kids.

This is who the Times has reporting from Gaza, a hard core Arab propagandist.

It's remarkable.

If you needed more proof about The Times "objectivity" in news reporting.

Wonder about the title of her byline today?

In Dense Gaza, Civilians Suffer

Sometime I think I know all there is to know about press and media bias. And yet they always outdo themselves.

186 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:23:40am
187 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:23:40am

re: #151 Dustyvet

Calling the IAF...:)

IAF: Hello?
HAMAS: Hello IAF?
IAF: Yes? who is this ?
HAMAS: Look this is your deadly enemy here..God is great and all that..But we are running a little low on Rockets and ammo here..And I'm getting a little hungry..
IAF: So you are asking what?
HAMAS: Look..I get a bonus check with 6 more missle launches..Can you just chill out a bit?
IAF: Those new Blackberry Storms are great Cell phones aren't they?
HAMAS: Holy goat shit! Click!

188 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:23:49am

re: #177 jaunte
I do know an O2 tank under 2000psi pressure will go through a cinder block wall!

189 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:24:03am

There aren't many African American hockey players in the NHL.

Who let them into Chicago?

/Jesse Jackson

190 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:24:05am

re: #174 pingjockey

Hockey at Wrigley Field! Awesome.

How do those people in center field see it?

191 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:24:44am

re: #167 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Used literally, it's inappropriate as hell, but I like the general idea of our military adopting a nom de guerre like the "Islamist Make-A-Wish Foundation".

/slogan? ... "Come to us for your heart's desire"

that reminds me of U.S. Marine t-shirts that were doing the rounds in Iraq.

192 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:24:45am

re: #174 pingjockey

Hockey at Wrigley Field! Awesome.

Whoa. Crappy seats in center field.

193 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:24:59am

re: #178 summergurl
It is damn funny when these oh so staid news folks step out of character and do off the wall stuff like this.

194 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:25:32am

re: #190 Nevergiveup
Binoculars or beer goggles!

195 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:25:34am

re: #183 Erik The Red

Whats the biggest plane that can land in Gaza? I can think of a few more.


I think Reid is busy trying to figure out how to get back at Blago for that bizarre yet brilliant move he made appointing the lone black Senator-

196 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:25:46am

The "National Anthem" is getting a great ovation in Chicago

197 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:25:50am

re: #174 pingjockey

Hockey at Wrigley Field! Awesome.

Cubs playing hockey, they sure can't play baseball...:)

198 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:26:10am

re: #183 Erik The Red

Whats the biggest plane that can land in Gaza? I can think of a few more.

A model plane

199 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:26:21am

re: #196 Nevergiveup

The "National Anthem" is getting a great ovation in Chicago

And with good reason.

200 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:26:24am

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Al Jazeera picks of the oxygen tank story.....
Disputed targets of Israeli air strikes (Hamas Grad Rockets)


[Video]

gotta add "oxygen tank" to the Pallywood glossary, along with "work accident" and "factory".

201 jaunte  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:26:28am

re: #188 pingjockey

This may turn out to be the equivalent of waving a gun-shaped object at a policeman in hot pursuit of an armed robber.
If the IAF is bombing terrorists in your neighborhood, maybe it's not a good day to move your metalworking gear.

202 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:26:30am

re: #169 buzzdroid

britain pledges $10 million in "aid" to gaza
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

bumbling idiots - dont they know that Hamas controls all aid reaching Gaza and then sells it on at extortionate prices...

"aid" = funding the terrorists.

of course they know it...everyone knows it...it's all part of the theater

203 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:26:43am

re: #153 jaunte
Yeah, but ya know I'm inclined to believe that those following the news out of Gaza closely are probably leaning to Israel in the first place.
For the rest, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know that Rockets and Mortars have been falling on Israeli cities, towns and villages (and thankfully many unoccupied, vacant tracts of land) in the first place.

Still, as I said in my#172, it was a stupid fucking poll anyway.

204 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:27:01am

Looks like a pretty full house for the hockey match too. What is the weather at game time?

205 opnion  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:27:15am

re: #174 pingjockey

Hockey at Wrigley Field! Awesome.

And you can do anything at Wrigley Field during the World Series.
It is never being used then.

206 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:27:27am

re: #197 Dustyvet
Mwahahaha!

207 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:27:33am

re: #141 kynna

It seems to be the point of the Islamist's families' existence. To be human shields for their monster males.


And they call us "infidels".

208 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:27:33am

re: #193 pingjockey

It is damn funny when these oh so staid news folks step out of character and do off the wall stuff like this.

Yup I would like to see Megyn Kelly do one too.

209 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:27:34am

re: #204 pingjockey

Looks like a pretty full house for the hockey match too. What is the weather at game time?

Cold and getting colder with possible snow flakes

210 Red Cloud  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:27:35am

Do not pass GO. Do not collect $200.

211 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:28:15am

re: #162 Dustyvet
Only if John Fucking Murtha (D-Stupid) has to go in the same boat at LT John Kerry (D-Stupid) is navigating!

212 Erik The Red  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:28:16am

re: #198 Nevergiveup

A model plane

On second thought does it really have to land?

213 Summer  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:28:19am

re: #179 LeePro

Take that back... you... you... Men!

///////////////////////////////

lol...I was teasing...chill.=)

214 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:28:19am

re: #201 jaunte
"Hey Achmed let's move the foundry today."

215 jaunte  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:29:00am

re: #214 pingjockey

You hold the bomb-shaped end, Ali.

216 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:29:00am

Good Afternoon Lizards! And a Happy New Year to all!

217 solomonpanting  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:29:06am

re: #115 MandyManners

What kind of father would surround himself with his kids in a fucking war zone?!

The same kind who:

In October 2001, he sent his son to perpetrate a suicide attack in the Gush Katif settlement Elei Sinai, in which two young Israelis were killed.

218 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:29:16am

re: #211 realwest

Only if John Fucking Murtha (D-Stupid) has to go in the same boat at LT John Kerry (D-Stupid) is navigating!

Up The Mekong River without a paddle...:)

219 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:30:08am

re: #215 jaunte
Bwahaha! Idjits.

220 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:30:24am

re: #216 Ford_Prefect

Good Afternoon Lizards! And a Happy New Year to all!

hey ford! happy new year

221 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:30:56am

re: #175 Killian Bundy
Thanks! Don't watch enough TV to know there was something worthwhile on!

222 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:31:09am
223 onlinegangsta  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:31:10am

Hmmmm only 2 wives were bagged?
Dammit..I needed the full 4 for my " Paleo Mr. Potato head" collection.

Let's see...put Shiek Yassins head on Kawkab's torso and Sheikh Nizar Rayyan's legs on.

Man, this is fun !

224 theheat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:31:14am

CNN has already spun this as an air strike on a refugee camp. Never mind the classification of refugee camp comes from the Palestinians.

An Israeli missile Thursday struck the home of Nizar Rayan, a top Hamas military commander in northern Gaza, killing him and nine others in a refugee camp, Hamas and Palestinian medical sources said.

And, to add to the drama, someone is out there with a bucket and tablespoons, measuring the blood loss, to make it even more sensationalistic.

Video showed crowds of men outside the remains of Rayan's home, shouting as they climbed mounds of debris, pulling bodies from the rubble and searching for other victims. Nearby buildings were heavily damaged, and rubble -- some streaked with blood -- clogged the streets

So, now there's a cleanup on aisle 5, and the world is supposed to weep a bunch of locals have to mop up terrorist blood? This is one pity party I'm not going to be sucked into.

225 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:31:42am

This report says that all 4 of his wives were killed, along with 2 of his children.

I guess perhaps it has been difficult to determine whether some of the younger girls were his wives or his children?

Nizar Rayan died with his four wives and two of his children, aged seven and ten, in an Israeli air strike in Gaza.

226 FightingBack  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:31:50am

re: #217 solomonpanting


This is too much for me. I'm going to check on the kids. BBL.

227 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:32:09am

re: #21 Nevergiveup

Strike Kills Hamas Leader as Israel Demands Global Monitors for Truce

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I don't get the International Monitors part? What good are they gonna do but be partial and get in the way? What the fuck is a "Monitor" suppose to do? Verify a missile was shot off? I mean when it lands in a kindergarten in Asdod, I think we'll know!

Israel is under the mistaken impression that evidence and proof will convince the World that they have right and justice on their side.

It will never happen. No matter the proof. No matter the evidence. No matter the "neutral monitors" as witness.

The World wants Israel dead- and that includes the foreign policy establishment of the United States.

228 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:32:12am

re: #221 realwest

Thanks! Don't watch enough TV to know there was something worthwhile on!

I watching "The Birdman of Alcatraz on Hulu...:)

229 freedombilly  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:32:12am

re: #174 pingjockey

Hockey at Wrigley Field! Awesome.

That national anthem with the flyover was pretty impressive!

230 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:32:56am

re: #211 realwest

Only if John Fucking Murtha (D-Stupid) has to go in the same boat at LT John Kerry (D-Stupid) is navigating!

The only body of water available is the Mediterranean, and from I understand Kerry couldn't find the Med if he were in a boat on it and fell out? (With all credit to Bull Durham)

231 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:33:00am

re: #181 Mini_Burkha_Fan
No,no,no! It's NOT 72 virgins, it's ONE 72 year old virgin.
Regrettably they don't find this out until it's too late for civilized people.

232 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:33:04am

re: #220 HoosierHoops

hey ford! happy new year

Back atcha HH! Anyone around here seriously hung over today?

233 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:33:14am

re: #229 freedombilly
IIRC, the NHL did this last New Year in Buffalo.

234 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:33:17am

re: #229 freedombilly

That national anthem with the flyover was pretty impressive!

I have no desire to watch the Cubbie's pucking around...:)

235 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:33:28am

re: #116 reine.de.tout

I wonder if those wives and kids who did not leave the house were under any sort of pressure to stay. I wonder if he deliberately "sacrificed" his wives and children to this cause.

You "wonder," reine?

Obedience! Submission!

*spit*

236 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:34:01am

re: #182 NJDhockeyfan
WHOA! Shortshit ain't gonna like that AT ALL. Methinks that student group is gonna disappear, ya know?

237 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:34:06am

re: #187 HoosierHoops

IAF: Hello?
HAMAS: Hello IAF?
IAF: Yes? who is this ?
HAMAS: Look this is your deadly enemy here..God is great and all that..But we are running a little low on Rockets and ammo here..And I'm getting a little hungry..
IAF: So you are asking what?
HAMAS: Look..I get a bonus check with 6 more missle launches..Can you just chill out a bit?
IAF: Those new Blackberry Storms are great Cell phones aren't they?
HAMAS: Holy goat shit! Click!

For some reason, Achmed the Dead Terrorist's voice was talking in my head as I read that.

238 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:34:16am

re: #221 realwest

Thanks! Don't watch enough TV to know there was something worthwhile on!

There is another one of those outdoor NHL games on. I don't watch much hockey, I don't think it is a very good TV sport, but those are always interesting.

239 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:34:55am

re: #238 Ford_Prefect

Oops! You guys are already talking about that!

240 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:35:18am

re: #235 LeePro

You "wonder," reine?

Obedience! Submission!

*spit*

Of course there is no "proof", so I have to "wonder". But I have a very strong suspicion that he did not allow them to leave.

241 MarineGrunt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:35:41am

Nice catch there IDF.

242 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:35:43am

re: #185 opinionated
Hey, I reported that to Charles - might make an interesting thread on the MSM complicity in what's going on in Gaza.

243 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:35:52am

re: #232 Ford_Prefect

Back atcha HH! Anyone around here seriously hung over today?

I know one poster is going to have an issue...We partied all night and then i started drinking coffee at 8am...I will not miss the rose bowl..
Hope you have a great year Ford!

244 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:35:57am

re: #217 solomonpanting

I have found that the only way to make any sense of this is to remind myself that Islam is a culture of death.

245 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:36:13am

Apparently there is a "wind" factor in todays hockey game?

246 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:36:59am

re: #238 Ford_Prefect

There is another one of those outdoor NHL games on. I don't watch much hockey, I don't think it is a very good TV sport, but those are always interesting.

The near side boards aren't so visible on TV

247 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:37:09am

re: #232 Ford_Prefect

Back atcha HH! Anyone around here seriously hung over today?

Some were kvetching earlier.

248 Maximu§  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:37:12am

Burn in Hell Ahmed!

249 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:37:20am

re: #130 Killian Bundy

re: #118 realwest

Killian, that's a fucking scream! Where the heck did you find that one?!?

/YouTube

Same place he watched it... [duh]

250 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:37:31am

If, as in the case of the recently dispatched Islamofascist Bigshot Nizar Rayyan, a terrorist causes the death of several of his wives and children by using the family home as a weapons depot and smuggling tunnel, does he still qualify for the 72 virgins?

I hope someone can answer this for me, because otherwise I probably won't be able to sleep tonight.

251 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:37:35am

re: #231 realwest

No,no,no! It's NOT 72 virgins, it's ONE 72 year old virgin.
Regrettably they don't find this out until it's too late for civilized people.

Does she look like this?

252 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:38:05am

re: #245 Nevergiveup

Apparently there is a "wind" factor in todays hockey game?

In fitting local fashion nobody from Chicago will be sent to the penalty box.

253 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:38:27am

re: #216 Ford_Prefect
Good afternoon and Happy New Year to you too, Ford!

254 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:39:10am

re: #250 Spare O'Lake

If, as in the case of the recently dispatched Islamofascist Bigshot Nizar Rayyan, a terrorist causes the death of several of his wives and children by using the family home as a weapons depot and smuggling tunnel, does he still qualify for the 72 virgins?

I hope someone can answer this for me, because otherwise I probably won't be able to sleep tonight.

Perhaps 72 for each person thus sacrificed?

255 Mini_Burkha_Fan  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:39:24am

OK, I know what they do with the 72 virgins. But what do they do with the 300 white horses?

256 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:39:45am

Todays obviously staged photo from AFP.....
Israel Pushes More Troops To Gaza Border Amid Talks Of Ceasefire


A Palestinian man picks up a picture of Santa Claus from the rubble in his damaged home after an Israeli air strike on the neighbouring Education Ministry building on January 1, 2009 in Gaza, Gaza Strip.

And here again

Notice he's still picking up the Santa card but the card has been moved slightly and the glass has been rearranged.

257 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:39:48am

re: #255 Mini_Burkha_Fan

OK, I know what they do with the 72 virgins. But what do they do with the 300 white horses?

Probably the same thing.

258 revobob  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:39:50am

re: #198 Nevergiveup

A model plane

Actually, pretty much any plane can land there- if you want to be picky, the question is what planes can take off there! Oersonally, that wouldn't be a concern for me with the passenger manifest under discussion...

259 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:39:52am

re: #159 buzzdroid

thats interesting! you got any examples of that?

Sorry about the late reply - telephone interrupted me ...

Yes, the 'misinformation', about which the various Israeli bloggers and newsoutlets spoke, which both the top politicians and especialy the IDF used in regard to what was going to happen on 12/28.
This is as clear an example of taqiyya as any muslim could wish for.

Further - look at the preparations, which seem to ahve been going on for months, again according to ynet, JPost and the bloggers: a brilliant piece of understanding hudna, and using it in the same way as Hamas did.

260 gooddad  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:39:57am

Good

261 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:40:01am

Hockey fans? Is outside hockey ice(as cold as it appears to be there) harder and faster than inside "conditioned" ice?

262 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:40:13am

live blog from "standing together" - a morale boosting org thats visiting the troops on the front line of civilisation.

[Link: www.stogether.org...]

interesting stuff.

263 solomonpanting  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:40:34am

re: #244 MandyManners

I have found that the only way to make any sense of this is to remind myself that Islam is a culture of death.

Mind if I embellish that?

264 Sunlight  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:40:41am

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Al Jazeera picks of the oxygen tank story.....
Disputed targets of Israeli air strikes (Hamas Grad Rockets)


[Video]

Israel needs to do an image analysis of the grads in the truck and a grad schematic and match them up...

265 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:40:42am

re: #243 HoosierHoops

I know one poster is going to have an issue...We partied all night and then i started drinking coffee at 8am...I will not miss the rose bowl..
Hope you have a great year Ford!

Thank you HH, and you too. Hope you had fun. My wife, daughter and I have all been feeling a little off the last few days, so we were in bed by 9:30. Pretty sad, huh?

266 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:40:52am

re: #113 opnion

He sends his own son on a suicide mission? We are a universe away fro this kind of mind set. How do you negotiate? There really does not seem to be any common ground.

A very wise woman once said (paraphrased): "There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews".

We ain't there yet, obviously.

267 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:41:10am

re: #208 summergurl

Yup I would like to see Megyn Kelly do one too.

/wound way to tight for Red Eye

268 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:41:28am

re: #266 Spiny Norman

Golda?

269 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:41:32am

re: #249 LeePro
Happy New Year LeePro.

270 Luigi  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:41:33am

Maggies has been running a series of posts on
Gramsci. Apparently, we're already living in Gramsci's world and just don't know it yet. Gramsci was a Marxist who believed the masses would never buy into Marxism as long as they still believed in any traditional or religious values.

The new battleground, reasoned Gramsci, must become the culture, starting with the traditional family and completely engulfing churches, schools, media, entertainment, civic organizations, literature, science, and history.


Check.

271 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:41:35am

re: #253 realwest

Good afternoon and Happy New Year to you too, Ford!

Same to you Real. Hope you have a good one.

272 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:41:41am

re: #258 revobob

Actually, pretty much any plane can land there- if you want to be picky, the question is what planes can take off there! Oersonally, that wouldn't be a concern for me with the passenger manifest under discussion...

Were can any plane land? I thought Israel pretty much took out their airport long ago?

273 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:41:47am

re: #256 Killgore Trout

Todays obviously staged photo from AFP.....
Israel Pushes More Troops To Gaza Border Amid Talks Of Ceasefire

And here again

Notice he's still picking up the Santa card but the card has been moved slightly and the glass has been rearranged.

Looks like the IAF has ruined these poor muslims Christmas!
/

274 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:42:00am

re: #263 solomonpanting

Mind if I embellish that?

Be my guest.

275 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:42:13am

re: #266 Spiny Norman

A very wise woman once said (paraphrased): "There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews".

We ain't there yet, obviously.

that quote is from Golda Meir. PM of Israel back in the 70s...

276 SurferDoc  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:42:17am

I read this morning that Hamas killed a guy for letting his family leave. That would count as pressure to stay, right?

277 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:42:36am

re: #169 buzzdroid

britain pledges $10 million in "aid" to gaza
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

bumbling idiots - dont they know that Hamas controls all aid reaching Gaza and then sells it on at extortionate prices...

"aid" = funding the terrorists.

Heh.
'Pledge' isn't = paying out on the dot, as we all know ...
Pledging this makes Brown & co look good in the eyes of the Arabs - but hey, there's a recession on! Who knows when that will be paid.

278 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:42:39am

re: #273 Truck Monkey

The Grinch is Jewish!

279 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:42:42am

re: #256 Killgore Trout
I swear the msm is as dumb and delusional as a jackass on acid. A picture of Santa is an infidel icon and wouldn't be found in an islamists house. The media over there probably has a gym bag full of props to be used for photo ops.

280 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:42:44am

re: #256 Killgore Trout

Todays obviously staged photo from AFP.....
Israel Pushes More Troops To Gaza Border Amid Talks Of Ceasefire

And here again

Notice he's still picking up the Santa card but the card has been moved slightly and the glass has been rearranged.

The Santa card looks pretty clear of dust, too.
Notice the dust on the white paper and also on what appears to be a manila envelope in the photo. No such on the Santa card.

281 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:43:30am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

The Grinch is Jewish!

I heard that. His name used to be Feygen right?

282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:43:33am

re: #278 Killgore Trout

The Grinch is Jewish!

Roast Beast is Kosher?

283 Maximu§  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:43:41am

OT:

Just finished a large bowl of Menudo Doup.....my hangovers gone, but my stomach is doing flip-flops. I slurped down cow parts I did'nt even know existed. One big peice had tubes sticking out of it, but I learned from my Mexican friends along time ago to not ask whats in Menudo Soup, just eat it.

I'm a wreck today....

284 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:44:10am

Nizar Rayyan's last words...

"Up in the air, it's a bird, it's a...HOLY SH...! electronic scream as his cell phone melts...

285 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:44:15am

re: #273 Truck Monkey

Looks like the IAF has ruined these poor muslims Christmas!
/

LOL!
Now that was funny.

286 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:44:30am

re: #243 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops! Did I miss a post/question from you on the prior thread this morning?!

287 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:44:55am

re: #256 Killgore Trout

Todays obviously staged photo from AFP.....
Israel Pushes More Troops To Gaza Border Amid Talks Of Ceasefire

And here again

Notice he's still picking up the Santa card but the card has been moved slightly and the glass has been rearranged.

You have GOT to be kidding me.

288 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:45:11am

re: #256 Killgore Trout

Todays obviously staged photo from AFP.....
Israel Pushes More Troops To Gaza Border Amid Talks Of Ceasefire


And here again

Notice he's still picking up the Santa card but the card has been moved slightly and the glass has been rearranged.

Mighty clean card.

289 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:45:18am

re: #254 reine.de.tout

Perhaps 72 for each person thus sacrificed?

That is a shitload of virgins.
Will his dead wives and children be forced to watch?

290 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:45:31am

re: #279 pingjockey

I swear the msm is as dumb and delusional as a jackass on acid. A picture of Santa is an infidel icon and wouldn't be found in an islamists house. The media over there probably has a gym bag full of props to be used for photo ops.

These are the same people that occupied the Church of the Nativity and used the Bible as toilet paper. I am pretty sure that Santa Claus is not a welcome presence in their homes.

291 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:45:32am

re: #283 Maximu§
As your lizard physician I recommend you start drinking heavily. Not a physician but have watched Animal House over 100 times.

292 jaunte  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:45:44am

re: #276 SurferDoc

I read this morning that Hamas killed a guy for letting his family leave. That would count as pressure to stay, right?

Well, they love death more than life, so it's confusing.
/

293 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:45:49am

re: #256 Killgore Trout

Todays obviously staged photo from AFP.....
Israel Pushes More Troops To Gaza Border Amid Talks Of Ceasefire

And here again

Notice he's still picking up the Santa card but the card has been moved slightly and the glass has been rearranged.

flag that one to charles! obvious fauxtography...

294 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:45:50am

re: #272 Nevergiveup

Were can any plane land? I thought Israel pretty much took out their airport long ago?

it's been closed for years...junk/rubble

295 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:45:53am

re: #200 buzzdroid

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Al Jazeera picks of the oxygen tank story.....
Disputed targets of Israeli air strikes (Hamas Grad Rockets)

gotta add "oxygen tank" to the Pallywood glossary, along with "work accident" and "factory".

Especially since they were loading them from one truck onto another, and the first truck leaves and then the second...

296 AdrianDenmark  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:45:58am

Cause of death : Allergic to juice :-}

297 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:46:05am

re: #288 MandyManners

Mighty clean card.

That's exactly what I thought too:
re: #280 reine.de.tout

The Santa card looks pretty clear of dust, too.
Notice the dust on the white paper and also on what appears to be a manila envelope in the photo. No such on the Santa card.

298 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:46:27am

re: #273 Truck Monkey

Wow. I was just typing that in my blog. You are pure genius.

299 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:46:51am

re: #256 Killgore Trout

Todays obviously staged photo from AFP.....
Israel Pushes More Troops To Gaza Border Amid Talks Of Ceasefire

And here again

Notice he's still picking up the Santa card but the card has been moved slightly and the glass has been rearranged.

Damn fine catch!
*rimshot*

300 Maximu§  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:46:55am

re: #291 pingjockey

As your lizard physician I recommend you start drinking heavily. Not a physician but have watched Animal House over 100 times.

Thank You Doctor, please send me an invoice for your services.

301 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:47:00am

re: #297 reine.de.tout

They think we're stupid.

302 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:47:11am

re: #290 Truck Monkey
Yep. No Santa is islam. Satan, yah, he's there but not Santa.

303 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:47:15am

re: #293 buzzdroid
Done that already!

304 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:47:18am

re: #275 buzzdroid

that quote is from Golda Meir. PM of Israel back in the 70s...

I knew that. Sorry, I should have made that clear.

305 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:47:31am

re: #297 reine.de.tout

Why is it that in these troubled times politicians always have to resort to playing the Santa card? (shakes head)

306 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:47:48am

re: #297 reine.de.tout

photo by "Abid Katib"

might be worth a google to see what other fauxtography that guy has done.

307 path  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:47:58am

Hope this gives you all a laugh.

Youtube Video

308 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:48:01am

re: #300 Maximu§
A nice bottle of Ceuvero Gold would be fine.

309 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:48:25am
310 revobob  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:48:31am

re: #283 Maximu§

OT:

Just finished a large bowl of Menudo Doup.....my hangovers gone, but my stomach is doing flip-flops. I slurped down cow parts I did'nt even know existed. One big peice had tubes sticking out of it, but I learned from my Mexican friends along time ago to not ask whats in Menudo Soup, just eat it.

I'm a wreck today....

Menudo is good stuff- the main meaty ingredient is beef tripes- cow stomach. One of the many foods that IS easier to eat if you don't know what it is!

311 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:48:36am

re: #293 buzzdroid

flag that one to charles! obvious fauxtography...

it's not news anymore....just the same old shit so why bother other than the stupid factor?

312 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:48:41am

re: #301 MandyManners

They think we're stupid.

Makes sense. People tend to think that they are smarter than everyone else. Using themselves as a gauge, everyone else would have to be borderline brain dead.

313 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:48:50am

re: #247 MandyManners

Some were kvetching earlier.

Hint - when you start drinking out of the champagne bottle, put it down.

Wish someone told me that yesterday ---

314 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:49:07am

re: #301 MandyManners

They think we're stupid.

They are close to 52% right.

315 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:49:11am

Gaza International Airport.

[Link: www.airport-data.com...]

316 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:49:22am

re: #172 realwest

Hey Ben - from your link

Forty-four percent (44%) say Israel should have taken military action against the Palestinians, but 41% say it should have tried to find a diplomatic solution to the problems there, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Fifteen percent (15%) are undecided.

Fifty-five percent (55%) of adults, however, believe the Palestinians are to blame for the current situation in Gaza, while 13% point the finger at the Israelis. Nearly one-third (32%) aren’t sure.


So what is that 44% comprised of - children?!
Effin stupid poll anyway.

"Forty-four percent (44%) say Israel should have taken military action against the Palestinians"

What's wrong with that?

317 alexknyc  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:49:27am

re: #255 Mini_Burkha_Fan

OK, I know what they do with the 72 virgins. But what do they do with the 300 white horses?

I'm guessing they do the same thing.

318 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:49:43am
319 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:49:49am

re: #315 Dustyvet
Hehehe! Oops.

320 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:49:59am

These guys are flying over the ice. Anybody who knows hockey see my question earlier? I'll get all Alex Forrest...

"I mean, I'm not gonna be ignored"

321 revobob  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:50:30am

re: #272 Nevergiveup

Were can any plane land? I thought Israel pretty much took out their airport long ago?


That was sort of my point- if landing is defined as getting aircraft from the air back on the ground, pretty much anywhere will do. If you want to quibble over trivia like surviving that process, then some infrastructure is desirable./

322 MarineGrunt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:50:39am

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Lots of rust on them "Oxygen" cylinders.

323 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:50:49am

re: #310 revobob

That stuff smells exactly like it sounds when cooking it. As does Chitterlings. Gross.

324 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:51:32am

re: #312 Ford_Prefect
ROTFL! But its true.

325 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:51:49am

re: #283 Maximu§

OT:

Just finished a large bowl of Menudo Doup.....my hangovers gone, but my stomach is doing flip-flops. I slurped down cow parts I did'nt even know existed. One big peice had tubes sticking out of it, but I learned from my Mexican friends along time ago to not ask whats in Menudo Soup, just eat it.

I'm a wreck today....

ahh that's disgusting

326 leafsfan82  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:51:57am

Isnt it wrong to cheer someone's death?

Oh wait... I dont give a fuck.

327 Cathypop  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:52:10am

re: #313 summergurl

Hint - when you start drinking out of the champagne bottle, put it down.

Wish someone told me that yesterday ---


And it took you how many years to find this out? Did you just turn 21?

328 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:52:11am

re: #310 revobob

Menudo is good stuff- the main meaty ingredient is beef tripes- cow stomach. One of the many foods that IS easier to eat if you don't know what it is!

I hope that Rrrrrrrricky Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeen was not in the Menudo you ate!

Youtube Video

329 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:52:18am

re: #320 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ignore this! Flipping between football and hockey. The better half has banished me to the bedroom. Driving everyone mad with the channel changing!

330 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:52:54am

Gotta' go check on the roasting pig.

331 Dianna  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:52:59am

re: #325 summergurl

ahh that's disgusting

Menudo is not to be questioned. It works brilliantly as a hangover cure, but don't even think about what's in it.

332 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:53:13am

re: #316 LeePro
The fact that it goes on to say "Fifty-five percent (55%) of adults, however" sorta implies that that 44% weren't adults.

333 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:53:32am

re: #330 MandyManners

Arnold roasting on an open fire....

334 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:53:40am

re: #315 Dustyvet

Gaza International Airport.

[Link: www.airport-data.com...]

That was considered a rousing success.
/

335 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:53:41am

re: #319 pingjockey

Hehehe! Oops.

Gaza Internarional Airport Food service truck, waiting to unload.

[Link: scripturist.org...]

336 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:53:53am

re: #185 opinionated

I turned on CNN yesterday...
Today, again... interview... CNN.

You doin' that on purpose?

337 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:53:53am

re: #286 realwest

Hey Hoops! Did I miss a post/question from you on the prior thread this morning?!

SILENCE! I KEEL YOU!
LOL
Mandy brought up Jeff Dunham earlier and I remember seeing him in Hawaii around '90. A bunch of us went to this nightclub because it was free and the drinks were only 12 bucks..anyhoo...true story.. Jeff is funnier than hell but he only had that one puppet..I don't recall his name..that green one..
So it was a slow night and Jeff starts trash talking my friend next to me just being funny and a smart alec..And my friend gets all upset and starts yelling back at him and the tension rose in the room an he stood up.. ( about 7 foot)
And the puppet turned to jeff and said ' You do realize his d*ck is bigger than you.. right?'
The place just fell down laughing.

338 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:53:56am

re: #331 Dianna

Menudo is not to be questioned. It works brilliantly as a hangover cure, but don't even think about what's in it.

Good morning - how was the special champagne?

339 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:54:24am

re: #299 pre-Boomer Marine brat

That WAS a good catch!

340 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:54:30am

re: #317 alexknyc

I'm guessing they do the same thing.

You are too kind.

341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:54:46am

re: #337 HoosierHoops

Peanut.

342 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:54:55am

awesome - thanks Obama..

because Obama is going to close Gitmo, the British government is going to take terrorist prisoners into the UK , even if they are not British citizens.

i dont know who is dumber - Obama or the British government....

343 rawmuse  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:55:18am

Good morning, Lizards! I just came to.
What a nice gift for the New Year this is. Good shooting, IDF!

344 Cathypop  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:55:23am

re: #342 buzzdroid

awesome - thanks Obama..

because Obama is going to close Gitmo, the British government is going to take terrorist prisoners into the UK , even if they are not British citizens.

i dont know who is dumber - Obama or the British government....

Both

345 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:55:30am

re: #335 Dustyvet

Gaza Internarional Airport Food service truck, waiting to unload.

[Link: scripturist.org...]

Gaza International State of the Art Rest Rooms...


[Link: farm1.static.flickr.com...]

346 MJBrutus  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:55:32am

re: #34 coquimbojoe

But the hangover is very difficult to get over.

Joined the choir invisible.

347 ryannon  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:55:43am

Sayonara, asshat.

And give my regards to Achmed!

Youtube Video

348 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:55:46am

re: #337 HoosierHoops
Ah, sorry I didn't see that one! Funny!

349 DistantThunder  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:05am

I wonder if those were the wives he liked, or the wives he didn't like.

350 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:08am

Hello New Year Lizards! I started out the year paying bills. It's a good feeling, really, being able to pay bills in the new year.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

351 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:10am

re: #330 MandyManners

Gotta' go check on the roasting pig.

mmmm...reminding me my alltime food trip by far is a summer pig roast picnic where you can eat other folks taters and salads etc....nothing beats it

352 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:15am

re: #335 Dustyvet
You have waaaay too much time on your hands. Seriously though, is the runway in Gaza seviceable? I don't think the IAF will shoot down an unarmed plane. They can stop boats from getting in. See Moonbat McKinneys Fine Mediterranean Adventure.

353 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:15am

re: #345 Dustyvet

Gaza International State of the Art Rest Rooms...

[Link: farm1.static.flickr.com...]

Don't laugh, it doubles as the control tower...:)

354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:18am

re: #345 Dustyvet

Someone linked an exploded port-o-john the other day.

355 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:20am

re: #331 Dianna

Menudo is not to be questioned. It works brilliantly as a hangover cure, but don't even think about what's in it.

My grandmother was Mexican so I have seen and eaten my fair share of menudo - but never did she serve a bowl with tubes (vessels apparently) sticking out..

356 Erik The Red  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:33am

re: #315 Dustyvet

Gaza International Airport.

[Link: www.airport-data.com...]

ROTFLMAO New laptop required.

357 DistantThunder  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:35am

re: #342 buzzdroid

awesome - thanks Obama..

because Obama is going to close Gitmo, the British government is going to take terrorist prisoners into the UK , even if they are not British citizens.

i dont know who is dumber - Obama or the British government....

Let me guess that we are paying them to do this.

358 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:42am

re: #343 rawmuse
Good morning and Happy New Year to ya!

359 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:56:46am

re: #343 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! I just came to.
What a nice gift for the New Year this is. Good shooting, IDF!

Good Morning and Happy New Year to our San Francisco Stalwart.

360 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:57:00am

re: #329 pingjockey

Ignore this! Flipping between football and hockey. The better half has banished me to the bedroom. Driving everyone mad with the channel changing!

Women are just amateurs when it comes to channel surfing.

361 Cathypop  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:57:00am

re: #350 ggt

Hello New Year Lizards! I started out the year paying bills. It's a good feeling, really, being able to pay bills in the new year.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?


Oh crap! Another thing to add to my to-do-list.

362 Alouette  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:57:26am

re: #125 buzzdroid

as Denis Prager says - there are two species of human on this planet.
Those who love life - and those who enjoy death.

They don't really enjoy death. They like to proclaim how much they love death, but when they really die, it sucks for them.

363 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:57:32am

re: #361 Cathypop

Oh crap! Another thing to add to my to-do-list.

HAPPY 2009!

LOL

364 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:57:36am

Nine Possibilities Heading Into 2009

/remember, IBD, for the second election in a row, had the most accurate Presidential polling data

365 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:57:46am

re: #350 ggt
Hey ggt - Happy New Year to you! And we are more or less still on topic!

366 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:57:51am

re: #341 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Peanut.

That's right! Peanut...Free shows in Hawaii..he was just starting out...Funny dude.

367 Dianna  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:58:29am

re: #338 debutaunt

Good morning - how was the special champagne?

Really excellent! Thank you.

How was your evening?

368 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:58:33am

re: #350 ggt

Hello New Year Lizards! I started out the year paying bills. It's a good feeling, really, being able to pay bills in the new year.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

the sending of a major league Hamasshole , with his harem of harpies to Hell and its 72 raisins, courtesy of the IAF.

369 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:58:43am

re: #350 ggt

Hello New Year Lizards! I started out the year paying bills. It's a good feeling, really, being able to pay bills in the new year.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

Happy New Year. That brings up the question of how long until the money I earn is mine and not the governments. Last I knew it was into May or June or something.

370 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:58:47am

re: #360 Nevergiveup
Yep. Told my kids they were lucky. Back in the olden days kids were used as channel changers.

371 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:58:51am

re: #360 Nevergiveup

Women are just amateurs when it comes to channel surfing.

Well, you know, we aren't looking for the gratuitous boob shot. We actually like to see what is offered before switching channels.

:0

372 solomonpanting  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:59:09am
He was considered one of the most fanatical Hamas commanders, and was said to be close to Hamas terrorist Salah Shehadeh, who was killed by the IAF in 2002.

Closer now, I'd say.

373 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:59:12am

re: #365 realwest

Hey ggt - Happy New Year to you! And we are more or less still on topic!

There is a topic?

How ya' doin' RW? Glad to see you in the new year!

374 JHW  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:59:36am

re: #315 Dustyvet

OT, I apologize, but I want to give a heads up to Dustyvet in case he has any interest in this;
I got a mailing from the Mobile Riverine Force Association yesterday, they're having a reunion in Indianapolis this September. Close to you, too far for me. Usually a lot of 9th I.D. vets there.You can subscribe to their newsletter here,
Mobile Riverine Force Association, 9th Infantry Div.

An album type book of the division is available at Amazon, I bought a couple, they're great, cover all units of the division, in case you or your family have any interest.
9th Infantry Div. in V.N.

375 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:59:38am

Well, Lizards, I have to go. My daughter won't nap so I am going to hold her and see if that works. You all play nice.

376 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:59:38am

re: #360 Nevergiveup

Women are just amateurs when it comes to channel surfing.

You channel surf because it only takes a second to see if it's tanks, football, or boobs. Or "How it's Made" he always stops for that show...

377 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:59:50am

re: #362 Alouette

They don't really enjoy death. They like to proclaim how much they love death, but when they really die, it sucks for them.

yeah. they dont really come back and say "well, that death thing was just great. i feel fine and dandy now. please IDF - drop another bomb on my head.."

378 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:59:58am

re: #352 pingjockey

You have waaaay too much time on your hands. Seriously though, is the runway in Gaza seviceable? I don't think the IAF will shoot down an unarmed plane. They can stop boats from getting in. See Moonbat McKinneys Fine Mediterranean Adventure.

Lizard's with Kidney stones and Vicadin need to have fun...:)

379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:00:06am

re: #371 ggt

We actually like to see what is offered before switching channels.

:0

I actually used a broom handle as a remote...

380 revobob  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:00:06am

re: #353 Dustyvet

Don't laugh, it doubles as the control tower...:)


That explains the open side...

381 rawmuse  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:00:08am

re: #358 realwest
re: #359 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Thanks, and the same to you and yours! My day will be filled with the taking down of the Christmas decorations (some ladder work involved there, my insurance is current) and some New Years Day parties, all within walking distance of my house, it will be a nice day here.

382 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:00:08am

Holy Goals, 2-1 Chicago in the 1st.

383 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:00:34am

re: #375 Ford_Prefect
Good luck.

384 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:00:43am

re: #371 ggt

Well, you know, we aren't looking for the gratuitous boob shot. We actually like to see what is offered before switching channels.

:0

Think ya got us pegged, dontcha...

385 Bobibutu  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:00:44am

re: #343 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! I just came to.
What a nice gift for the New Year this is. Good shooting, IDF!

Good morning RM ... just gained consciousness as well - great news to start off the New Year.

386 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:01:04am

FYI re the airport in Gaza, in the southeast corner near Rafah -- a quick look via Google Maps will show that substantial sections of the runway have been destroyed. Looks like the concrete was physically torn up, undoubtedly by Israeli demolition crews before they left Gaza.

387 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:01:40am

re: #374 JHW

OT, I apologize, but I want to give a heads up to Dustyvet in case he has any interest in this;
I got a mailing from the Mobile Riverine Force Association yesterday, they're having a reunion in Indianapolis this September. Close to you, too far for me. Usually a lot of 9th I.D. vets there.You can subscribe to their newsletter here,
Mobile Riverine Force Association, 9th Infantry Div.

An album type book of the division is available at Amazon, I bought a couple, they're great, cover all units of the division, in case you or your family have any interest.
9th Infantry Div. in V.N.

I'll have to check that out, thanks much for posting. My old unit may finely do a reunion.

388 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:01:49am

re: #378 Dustyvet
Kidney stones...yuck. Had Gall stones. Now my gall bladder is gone. Can't do that so easy with a kidney.

389 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:01:49am

re: #369 Ford_Prefect

Happy New Year. That brings up the question of how long until the money I earn is mine and not the governments. Last I knew it was into May or June or something.

Well, technically, I think it is all the gubernets. "Give unto Ceasar" and all that.

It's the "concept" of the resources that the money represents that is yours.

I think.

Economics isn't my best subject.

390 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:02:34am

re: #375 Ford_Prefect

Well, Lizards, I have to go. My daughter won't nap so I am going to hold her and see if that works. You all play nice.

The problem with that is that you end up napping too.

Which really isn't a problem.

391 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:02:46am

re: #388 pingjockey

Kidney stones...yuck. Had Gall stones. Now my gall bladder is gone. Can't do that so easy with a kidney.

Ouch...i think that's what's coming next.

392 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:03:13am

re: #309 ploome hineni

......for whoever is reading and is interested in why HAMAS is not merely a 'resistance movement'

Khalidi’s major work Haqa’iq Koraniyya al Qadiyya al-Filastinniya [“Koranic Facts Regarding the Palestinian Issue”] which was first published in 1991 by the Hamas Publishing House Manshūrāt Filastin al-Muslima, blah, blah, blah...

Koranic facts? Oh, brother...

Nice little anti-Semitic rant in that exerpt, though.

393 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:03:19am

re: #379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I actually used a broom handle as a remote...

you didn't have kids?

394 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:03:35am

re: #386 pre-Boomer Marine brat

FYI re the airport in Gaza, in the southeast corner near Rafah -- a quick look via Google Maps will show that substantial sections of the runway have been destroyed. Looks like the concrete was physically torn up, undoubtedly by Israeli demolition crews before they left Gaza.

if you look carefully... there's a star of david in the runway.

hopefully this link should work - the star is dead centre

[Link: maps.google.com...]

395 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:03:41am

re: #384 Capitalist Tool

Think ya got us pegged, dontcha...

LOL

396 realwest  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:03:45am

Well y'all gotta go eat some lunch! I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

397 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:04:20am

re: #342 buzzdroid

Do you suppose we will get stories out of this when they go on head chopping sprees?

398 pat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:04:24am

Wonder when Andrew Sullivan is going to speculate that Gov. Palin is really the mother of Tripp Johnston?

399 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:04:30am

re: #391 Dustyvet
Oh damn. My grampa had the sonic thing done where they used sound waves to break up the stones then he passed them. He said it was like pissing out a watermelon!

400 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:04:41am

re: #240 reine.de.tout

Of course there is no "proof", so I have to "wonder". But I have a very strong suspicion that he did not allow them to leave.

I was agreeing with you...

Shoulda' /'d

;D

401 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:04:55am

re: #386 pre-Boomer Marine brat

FYI re the airport in Gaza, in the southeast corner near Rafah -- a quick look via Google Maps will show that substantial sections of the runway have been destroyed. Looks like the concrete was physically torn up, undoubtedly by Israeli demolition crews before they left Gaza.

Durandal

402 Erik The Red  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:05:09am

re: #378 Dustyvet

Lizard's with Kidney stones and Vicadin need to have fun...:)

Kidney stones must suck but Vicadin does not. Why do we have to be in pain to get so much pleasure?

403 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:05:15am

re: #376 summergurl

You channel surf because it only takes a second to see if it's tanks, football, or boobs. Or "How it's Made" he always stops for that show...

Sounds like you know me?

404 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:05:54am

re: #375 Ford_Prefect

When my girls were tiny my husband would say "since they won't nap, I'll just lay down with them". His way of getting a nap, too!

405 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:06:08am
406 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:06:11am

re: #386 pre-Boomer Marine brat

FYI re the airport in Gaza, in the southeast corner near Rafah -- a quick look via Google Maps will show that substantial sections of the runway have been destroyed. Looks like the concrete was physically torn up, undoubtedly by Israeli demolition crews before they left Gaza.

No actually I think they did that after either by air or went back in for a short visit once.

407 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:06:35am

re: #367 Dianna

Really excellent! Thank you.

How was your evening?

Nice - we watched Mrs. Brown and celebrated early.

408 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:06:36am

re: #394 buzzdroid
I don't think that runway would even allow a C-130 to land. Looks like the IDF did a number on it.

409 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:08:03am

re: #402 Erik The Red

Kidney stones must suck but Vicadin does not. Why do we have to be in pain to get so much pleasure?

Kidney stones do indeed suck, and suck really bad, but Vicodin almost makes the suck go away.

Morphine, on the other hand...

;^)

410 Dianna  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:08:05am

re: #402 Erik The Red

Kidney stones must suck but Vicadin does not. Why do we have to be in pain to get so much pleasure?

I hate Vicodin.

Frankly, give me a muscle relaxant and an aspirin, and I can cope.

Pain's in the mind. If you're tense, you can't cope with it.

411 jaunte  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:08:18am

re: #394 buzzdroid

if you look carefully... there's a star of david in the runway.

D9 Caterpillar grafitti.

412 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:10:08am

re: #394 buzzdroid

if you look carefully... there's a star of david in the runway.

hopefully this link should work - the star is dead centre

[Link: maps.google.com...]

HA! Thanks. I'd not noticed that.

413 solomonpanting  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:10:14am

re: #405 taxfreekiller


I've seen Keen twice in concert and listen to this as a matter of habit.

414 miguelj  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:11:27am

Well, I say; there can be NO PEACE until the IDF withdraws
COMPLETELY from Gaza!

.....which of course means: Cpl. Gilad Shalit must be expelled from Gaza's holy soil to Israel AT ONCE! Otherwise, NO PEACE!

(sarc)

415 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:11:41am

re: #399 pingjockey

Oh damn. My grampa had the sonic thing done where they used sound waves to break up the stones then he passed them. He said it was like pissing out a watermelon!

Umm, I really, really, really needed to know that...:P


Oh and here's the future of health care under Hopie Changie...

Youtube Video

416 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:11:48am

re: #411 jaunte

re: #394 buzzdroid

if you look carefully... there's a star of david in the runway.

D9 Caterpillar graffiti.

Oh, that's too funny.

417 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:12:47am

re: #410 Dianna

I hate Vicodin.

Frankly, give me a muscle relaxant and an aspirin, and I can cope.

Pain's in the mind. If you're tense, you can't cope with it.

I'm with you Dianna!

ice, ibuprophen/aspirin and regulated breathing (yoga stuff). muscle relaxants don't work so well for me tho.

418 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:13:00am

re: #403 Nevergiveup

Sounds like you know me?


Apparently I do

,-)

419 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:14:00am

re: #415 Dustyvet
I had no idea Peter Sellers was ever in a movie with Hope and Crosby!

420 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:14:03am

gotta love this headline
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

"Hardline Hamas Leader killed in air strike"

as if theres a cute and cuddly "moderate" version of Hamas...

421 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:14:05am

re: #418 summergurl

Apparently I do

,-)

So then What am I wearing?

422 pingjockey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:14:47am

Later folks. Gonna go shovel gorebull warming!

423 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:15:08am

re: #419 pingjockey

I had no idea Peter Sellers was ever in a movie with Hope and Crosby!

The Road To Hong Cong...:)

424 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:15:15am

re: #410 Dianna

I hate Vicodin.

Frankly, give me a muscle relaxant and an aspirin, and I can cope.

Pain's in the mind. If you're tense, you can't cope with it.

pain is a chemical reaction...do you also believe addiction to cocaine is in the mind?

425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:15:24am

re: #409 Spiny Norman

According to the wife, Morphine should be offered in 6 packs.

426 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:16:02am

re: #421 Nevergiveup

It's what you're not wearing that has my attention-

You ought to be ashamed of yourself---

427 doppelganglander  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:16:12am

re: #402 Erik The Red

Kidney stones must suck but Vicadin does not. Why do we have to be in pain to get so much pleasure?

Dr. House approves.

428 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:16:42am

20:54 Israel to let 400 foreigners living in Gaza leave the Strip on Friday (AP)

Maybe they are letting them leave in exchange for Hamas taking in Cynthia McKinney for the duration?

429 Dianna  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:17:08am

re: #417 ggt

I'm with you Dianna!

ice, ibuprophen/aspirin and regulated breathing (yoga stuff). muscle relaxants don't work so well for me tho.

That's too bad. They work great for me; I can't do the regulated breathing until I relax. The trick is to hold very still.

430 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:17:15am

re: #425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

According to the wife, Morphine should be offered in 6 packs.

I would agree with her there...

431 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:17:18am

Watching a Michelle Pfeiffer movie till the rose bowl..
That actress was so impressive in I am Sam and the fabulous Baker Brothers..
That even if she did crap the rest of her life I'd still put her on the top of the list for when she was on..

432 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:17:59am

re: #426 summergurl

It's what you're not wearing that has my attention-

You ought to be ashamed of yourself---

*cough*
If you two will forgive the interruption ...

/sorry, couldn't resist ... (-:

433 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:18:15am

re: #410 Dianna

I hate Vicodin.

Frankly, give me a muscle relaxant and an aspirin, and I can cope.

Pain's in the mind. If you're tense, you can't cope with it.

Too much Vicodin (more than one 5/500 at a time) makes me violently ill.

I tried the prescription muscle relaxant thing, but it wasn't much better than 4 OTC Advils. To be honest, if the stones are very small, I can pass them now without too much trouble, just nasty cramps (like on Monday). Larger ones are still like a knife in the back, though.

434 doriangrey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:18:24am

Good morning Lizards.... Man I sure would love to say something witty, moving or intelligent regarding the demise of Sheikh Nizar Rayyan, but danged if'n y'all aint already done said it all. So I'll settle for saying,

Dear IAF Job well done, please send Sheikh Nizar Rayyan lots and lots of company to his new mosque in HELL...
435 doppelganglander  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:18:36am

re: #410 Dianna

I hate Vicodin.

Frankly, give me a muscle relaxant and an aspirin, and I can cope.

Pain's in the mind. If you're tense, you can't cope with it.

I'll bet you've never given birth. I never got the epidural, but Demerol was my very, very good friend. All those breathing exercise are malarkey. They just give you (and the dad) something to do.

436 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:18:48am

re: #428 Nevergiveup

20:54 Israel to let 400 foreigners living in Gaza leave the Strip on Friday (AP)

Maybe they are letting them leave in exchange for Hamas taking in Cynthia McKinney for the duration?


Look, that woman is from my state - we don't want her back. The crazy quotient of the state dropped 100 points because she left and our average IQ jumped .

437 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:18:56am

re: #429 Dianna

That's too bad. They work great for me; I can't do the regulated breathing until I relax. The trick is to hold very still.

It takes a lot of practice --I used to be able to do it almost instantly, but I'm out of practice now.

438 Dianna  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:19:01am

re: #424 albusteve

pain is a chemical reaction...do you also believe addiction to cocaine is in the mind?

I haven't the least - I've stayed well away from cocaine.

You're right, of course; perhaps a more accurate way to put it is that you can use your mind to deal with pain. It just takes some concentration. Well, a lot of concentration, actually.

439 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:19:07am

re: #431 HoosierHoops

Watching a Michelle Pfeiffer movie till the rose bowl..
That actress was so impressive in I am Sam and the fabulous Baker Brothers..
That even if she did crap the rest of her life I'd still put her on the top of the list for when she was on..

FYI, but are you aware that she did her own singing in The Fabulous Baker Boys?

440 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:19:08am

re: #433 Spiny Norman

Too much Vicodin (more than one 5/500 at a time) makes me violently ill.

I tried the prescription muscle relaxant thing, but it wasn't much better than 4 OTC Advils. To be honest, if the stones are very small, I can pass them now without too much trouble, just nasty cramps (like on Monday). Larger ones are still like a knife in the back, though.

I feel for you amigo...it will end tho

441 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:19:19am

re: #425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

According to the wife, Morphine should be offered in 6 packs.

Hell yeah!

j/k

442 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:19:31am

re: #266 Spiny Norman

A very wise woman once said (paraphrased): "There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews".

We ain't there yet, obviously.

Golda Meir, who also said: Many accuse me of conducting public affairs with my heart instead of my head. Well, what if I do? . . . Those who don’t know how to weep with their whole heart don’t know how to laugh either.

443 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:19:53am

The sheikh got shook.

444 summergurl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:19:58am

re: #432 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Good one!

445 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:20:10am

re: #434 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards.... Man I sure would love to say something witty, moving or intelligent regarding the demise of Sheikh Nizar Rayyan, but danged if'n y'all aint already done said it all. So I'll settle for saying,

Good Morning and Happy New Year!

446 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:20:29am

re: #434 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards.... Man I sure would love to say something witty, moving or intelligent regarding the demise of Sheikh Nizar Rayyan, but danged if'n y'all aint already done said it all. So I'll settle for saying,

He has been reported to be at the 6th gate of Hell waiting passport clearance.. Delays can take upwards to millions of years..Just like LAX

447 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:20:56am

re: #435 doppelganglander

I'll bet you've never given birth. I never got the epidural, but Demerol was my very, very good friend. All those breathing exercise are malarkey. They just give you (and the dad) something to do.

phentyol!

I only use the breathing thingy for everyday pain --migraines etc.

Big bad pain that comes from surgeries and hospitals need big bad drugs.

448 doriangrey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:21:21am

re: #445 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Good Morning and Happy New Year!

Indeed, and the same to you... ;)

449 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:21:38am

re: #420 buzzdroid

gotta love this headline
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

"Hardline Hamas Leader killed in air strike"

as if theres a cute and cuddly "moderate" version of Hamas...

Umm, the Moderate arm of Hamas is the real victime here

//////////

450 Dianna  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:21:41am

re: #435 doppelganglander

I'll bet you've never given birth. I never got the epidural, but Demerol was my very, very good friend. All those breathing exercise are malarkey. They just give you (and the dad) something to do.

No kids, no. Several injuries, though.

I always suspected that about the breathing exercises!

451 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:21:42am

re: #269 realwest

Same to you, rw.

452 doriangrey  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:22:05am

re: #446 HoosierHoops

He has been reported to be at the 6th gate of Hell waiting passport clearance.. Delays can take upwards to millions of years..Just like LAX

Heh heh heh... ;)

453 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:22:13am

re: #438 Dianna

I haven't the least - I've stayed well away from cocaine.

You're right, of course; perhaps a more accurate way to put it is that you can use your mind to deal with pain. It just takes some concentration. Well, a lot of concentration, actually.

agreed....dealing with prolonged and severe pain become partly a mental exercise...I know this for a fact....I am in a fair amt of pain right now...

454 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:22:32am

re: #444 summergurl

Good one!

:D ... you can obviously see why I couldn't resist, given the direction you were headed!

455 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:22:42am

First you take the sheikh and bake.

456 Dianna  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:23:50am

re: #453 albusteve

agreed....dealing with prolonged and severe pain become partly a mental exercise...I know this for a fact....I am in a fair amt of pain right now...

I'm sorry about that.

Chronic pain is a nightmare.

457 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:23:54am

re: #439 pre-Boomer Marine brat

FYI, but are you aware that she did her own singing in The Fabulous Baker Boys?

She is one classy,Beautiful woman...Great actress....

458 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:24:13am

Welcome To Hell

Nizar Rayyan dies and goes to hell. Satan greets him, shows him three doors, and says, "You must spend the rest of eternity in one of the rooms behind these doors. Look in each one and decide which one you want."

Nizar Rayyan opens the first door, and sees a bunch of people standing on their heads on a wooden floor, looking very uncomfortable. He opens the second door, and sees a bunch of people standing on their heads on a concrete floor, looking even more uncomfortable. Finally, he opens the third door, and sees a bunch of people standing around chatting and drinking coffee, up to their knees in shit.

"Hmmm," he says, "that looks bad, but it's better than the other two. I'll take the third door." Satan smiles and shows him in.

Ten minutes later Satan walks back into the room and says, "Alright, coffee break's over, everyone back on your heads!"

459 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:25:19am

re: #456 Dianna

I'm sorry about that.

Chronic pain is a nightmare.

a femoral bypass...it will end...piece of cake compared to burns I suffered years ago...and thank you

460 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:25:19am

re: #455 Spare O'Lake

First you take the sheikh and bake.

The IAF got what he was bredded with, too.

461 jamgarr  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:25:53am

Any Gazan with gills is NUTS to be at home now.

462 Clareman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:26:11am

Way to start the year!
Happy New 2009!

463 Erik The Red  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:26:38am

re: #458 Dustyvet

Hey Dv slip me some of the meds you are taking. Looks like you are having fun tonight.

464 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:26:41am

re: #442 LeePro

Golda Meir, who also said: Many accuse me of conducting public affairs with my heart instead of my head. Well, what if I do? . . . Those who don’t know how to weep with their whole heart don’t know how to laugh either.

She also said that she had a phone call when an Israeli soldier died. . .and wondered if maybe when Arab leaders got such calls would the wars stop. . .but wasn't there a quote about an Arab leader, Egypt I think it was Nasser, who said Arabs should just sacrifice a few million to destroy Israel?

465 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:27:11am

re: #450 Dianna

No kids, no. Several injuries, though.

I always suspected that about the breathing exercises!

LaMaze= La Pain. . .

466 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:27:21am

re: #463 Erik The Red

Hey Dv slip me some of the meds you are taking. Looks like you are having fun tonight.

I am...:)

467 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:27:46am

re: #457 HoosierHoops

She is one classy,Beautiful woman...Great actress....

Indeed. She showed in The Russia House that she can put on a different personna, (like Jodie Foster did in Nell, but which all too few actors and actresses are incapable of.)

468 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:28:46am

re: #412 pre-Boomer Marine brat

HA! Thanks. I'd not noticed that.

IDF version of

"Kilroy wos 'ere"

would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during the discussions to build THAT with the D9 bulldozers...

469 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:28:48am

re: #465 DisturbedEma

LaMaze= La Pain. . .

individuals "feel" pain differently. I've known many women who when thru childbirth with little difficulty --me, I wanted a bullet to the head.

I can't stand it when the "purists" insist that everyone can get thru it with LaMaze.

470 jamgarr  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:29:02am

Nay ta ta chickapee

471 Ilan Toren  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:29:05am

Just goes to show that it is never to late to limit the genetic damage. I suppose that his two released wives must be quite relieved to be done with the stupid f&cker.

472 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:29:52am

re: #50 Blackacre

Here's what I don't get. This guy and his extended family lived in an eight story building. The Israelis abandoned Gaza years ago and Gaza has been the subject of self-rule (for better or worse -- and we know which). Yet, the article refers to all of this as a "Gaza refugee camp." Refugee -- from what? Camp -- where are the pup tents? Why the insistence on this phrase?

Jumping in here a little late, but here's what I wrote yesterday about the 60-year persistence of the "refugee camp" lie:

The "refugee camps" are still called that simply and solely because of UNRWA (United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East). As its name suggests (though not its acronym), UNRWA's only raison d'etre is to preserve the refugee status of those who otherwise could well have integrated long since into the societies in which they find themselves. This is particularly absurd when one looks at the "camps" in the West Bank and Gaza. These are Palestinians living in and surrounded by territory that is supposed to be part of a future Palestinian state. Why are they deemed "refugees"? The millions of ethnic Germans who were expelled after WWII from the East were quickly absorbed into society by the remaining German state (which lost about a third of its territory as a result of the two world wars). Their irredendist cries of "Schlesien bleibt unser!" (Silesia remains ours!) were loud at first, but except in the form of social clubs, they have no voice in German society anymore. And like the ethnic Germans, the vast majority of the Palestinian "refugees" were the victims of the lost war of aggression started by the Arab states immediately after the original partition of Palestine. In other words, their circumstances are not Israel's fault, but that of their so-called leaders.

So why are Palestinians still living in "refugee camps" 60 years after the fact? The answer is that they, with the essential and unwavering aid of UNRWA, are kept in that status as an open sore with which to accuse Israel. More than that, their existence is among the reasons that so many Palestinians will not accept the Jewish State's very existence. For, if there are "refugees", the implication is that they might someday return to the places they used to inhabit. Obviously that's never going to happen, so the resentment against Israel is artificially increased every day the "camps" persist.

There is no other group of "refugees" in the world whose children and grandchildren (in fact, all descendants through the male line) are deemed to also be "refugees" long after they were born in whatever place their parents came to. UNRWA maintains this fiction for transparently false reasons and harmful ends.

Here, by the way, is what UNRWA says about the Israeli operations in Gaza:

The Commissioner-General of UNRWA, Karen AbuZayd, expressed her horror to [sic] the extensive destruction visited upon Gaza Strip today and her deep sadness to [sic] the terrible loss in human life. UNRWA, the United Nation’s Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees, strongly urges the Israeli Government to heed calls for ceasing its bombardment on Gaza. Israel is a signatory to international conventions that protect non-combatants in times of conflict. These conventions are worthless if they are not upheld.

UNRWA has turned an entire people, able-bodied as well as those who truly need aid, into a multi-generational population of welfare dependents. Its existence is one of the greatest failures of the UN. It should be abolished.

But it'll just go on and on, and no end in sight.

Meh.

P.S. Someone else pointed out that in countries outside the Palestinian territories, Palestinian "refugees" and their descendants are prohibited by law from receiving the citizenship of those countries. Another way the problem is perpetuated.

473 buzzdroid  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:30:09am

re: #428 Nevergiveup

20:54 Israel to let 400 foreigners living in Gaza leave the Strip on Friday (AP)

Maybe they are letting them leave in exchange for Hamas taking in Cynthia McKinney for the duration?

and all of the other "Free Gaza" moonbats.. Heck , why not let Code Pink go in as well.

Hamas will be BEGGING for mercy in about 2 days tops...

474 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:31:04am

re: #472 Cato the Elder

Up-dinged yesterday, and up-dinged again!

475 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:31:13am

re: #467 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Indeed. She showed in The Russia House that she can put on a different personna, (like Jodie Foster did in Nell, but which all too few actors and actresses are incapable of.)

It's not like watching Tom Cruise act..No matter what..You always know it's Tom trying to be somebody else..Never quite works for me..even with an eye patch, It's still just Maverick playing a Nazi.

476 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:31:32am

re: #474 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Up-dinged yesterday, and up-dinged again!

yes that as excellent Cato...thanks

477 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:31:35am

re: #470 jamgarr

Nay ta ta chickapee



This one?

478 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:32:00am

Mmmm, chowing down on some Hopping John. Slow-cooked on my stove since this morning with 1/4 a turkey ham, 1 clove of garlic, parsley, Janes' Crazy Mixed-up Salt, some bargain-store "Cajun Spice," some black-eyed peas, and a handful of rice.

Yummmm

479 Raven1  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:32:24am

The freakazoid killer regrets he has only 4 wives to give for his evil delusions.

480 Dianna  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:32:30am

re: #469 ggt

individuals "feel" pain differently. I've known many women who when thru childbirth with little difficulty --me, I wanted a bullet to the head.

I can't stand it when the "purists" insist that everyone can get thru it with LaMaze.

I had a friend who trained as a midwife.

Her favorite moments involved the ladies who believed that all those classes were sufficient, and they'd get through it just fine. Ha!

My friend had three kids before the training. She knew all about it, and was very nice when the ladies broke down and asked for drugs. Heavy drugs. Oh, and give my husband a vasectomy, while you're at it!

481 doppelganglander  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:32:57am

re: #469 ggt

individuals "feel" pain differently. I've known many women who when thru childbirth with little difficulty --me, I wanted a bullet to the head.

I can't stand it when the "purists" insist that everyone can get thru it with LaMaze.

They're as bad as the people who condemn moms who bottle feed. I nursed all three of mine for varying lengths of time, but not everyone can or wants to do that.

482 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:33:11am

re: #475 HoosierHoops

It's not like watching Tom Cruise act..No matter what..You always know it's Tom trying to be somebody else..Never quite works for me..even with an eye patch, It's still just Maverick playing a Nazi.

so true...the John Wayne Syndrome doesnt work for everybody (if anyone else come to think of it!)

483 jamgarr  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:33:22am

re: #477 Bloodnok


This one?


Linky no worky for me

484 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:33:37am

re: #475 HoosierHoops

It's not like watching Tom Cruise act..No matter what..You always know it's Tom trying to be somebody else..Never quite works for me..even with an eye patch, It's still just Maverick playing a Nazi.

Wear the right costume, and the part will play itself...Not this time Mr. Cruise

485 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:34:28am

re: #483 jamgarr

Linky no worky for me

Just snark. Town website of Chicopee, MA.

486 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:34:34am

re: #400 LeePro

I was agreeing with you...

Shoulda' /'d

;D

OH, I knew that!

487 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:35:17am

re: #475 HoosierHoops

It's not like watching Tom Cruise act..No matter what..You always know it's Tom trying to be somebody else..Never quite works for me..even with an eye patch, It's still just Maverick playing a Nazi.

Yes. It's the one thing I had against John Wayne (simply fantastic as he was). For instance, in The Sea Chase he acted out the role of an old-line German Imperial Navy Captain with his standard "Old West" accent. He did a fine job in that film, but something didn't quite fit.

488 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:35:33am
489 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:36:31am

re: #477 Bloodnok


This one?

Nope. It was a reference to Jodie Foster's dialogue in "Nell".

490 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:36:54am

re: #482 albusteve

so true...the John Wayne Syndrome doesn't work for everybody (if anyone else come to think of it!)

Worst John Wayne role ever....


Genghis Khan


"Well gather your Mongol hoards...wa ha!"

491 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:36:54am

I was induced with both kids, and had an epidural with both. It's total BS that you can't feel the urge to push. That urge woke me up from a nice, pleasant nap both times.

I am not sure I ever want to have a kid without drugs.

492 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:37:00am

re: #469 ggt

individuals "feel" pain differently. I've known many women who when thru childbirth with little difficulty --me, I wanted a bullet to the head.

I can't stand it when the "purists" insist that everyone can get thru it with LaMaze.

Oh, I was ok with my pain level. . .I did my 7 deliveries with no pain meds, but I guess I was expecting the breathinging to help more than it did. . .

493 doppelganglander  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:37:02am

re: #475 HoosierHoops

It's not like watching Tom Cruise act..No matter what..You always know it's Tom trying to be somebody else..Never quite works for me..even with an eye patch, It's still just Maverick playing a Nazi.

Did you see Valkyrie? I heard it tried to de-Nazify the Nazis so the audience would have someone to root for -- for example, they didn't wear the usual swastika armbands.

494 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:38:31am

re: #488 buzzsawmonkey

I didn't know it was a Sephardic tradition too. Thanks.

495 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:38:35am

re: #490 Dustyvet

Worst John Wayne role ever....

Genghis Khan

"Well gather your Mongol hoards...wa ha!"

utterly unwatchable except for the reason you give...very close to satire

496 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:38:44am

re: #489 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Nope. It was a reference to Jodie Foster's dialogue in "Nell".

Dialogue. Is that something you do to celebrate Arbor Day?

497 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:39:09am

re: #493 doppelganglander

Did you see Valkyrie? I heard it tried to de-Nazify the Nazis so the audience would have someone to root for -- for example, they didn't wear the usual swastika armbands.

hmmm

498 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:39:23am

re: #488 buzzsawmonkey

I just learned today that rice and beans/black-eyed peas (no ham) is a traditional Sephardic dish at Rosh HaShanah, the Jewish New Year, in addition to being a traditional Southern dish for the secular New Year.

Interesting.

I hear tell a lot of the descendants of conversos ended up in the American South.

499 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:40:06am

Meanwhile, Palestinian sources in Gaza reported that hundreds of residents of the Nada neighborhood located close to the Erez crossing in northern Gaza have begun evacuating their houses fearing an extensive Israeli operation.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I thought there were no homes in "refugee camps"?

500 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:40:46am

re: #495 albusteve

utterly unwatchable except for the reason you give...very close to satire

"My heart tells me this Tartar woman is for me"


Whoever made the decision to cast John Wayne as the young Genghis Khan either had too much imagination or too little

501 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:40:49am

re: #487 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes. It's the one thing I had against John Wayne (simply fantastic as he was). For instance, in The Sea Chase he acted out the role of an old-line German Imperial Navy Captain with his standard "Old West" accent. He did a fine job in that film, but something didn't quite fit.

Let's not forget the bit role he had in the greatest story ever told..He was a guard at the foot of the cross and did his aw shucks Texas accent..Surely this must be the Son of God..It's times like that you realize your drunken uncle could have had a career as a Hollywood producer..It's so sad for them .

502 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:40:52am

re: #499 Nevergiveup

Meanwhile, Palestinian sources in Gaza reported that hundreds of residents of the Nada neighborhood located close to the Erez crossing in northern Gaza have begun evacuating their houses fearing an extensive Israeli operation.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I thought there were no homes in "refugee camps"?

Yeah it is REALLY hard to keep up with the current propaganda and spin. . .war is hell. . .

503 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:41:19am

re: #490 Dustyvet

Worst John Wayne role ever....
Genghis Khan
"Well gather your Mongol hoards...wa ha!"

Yeah. I rented that once ... (ONCE).
It "was not his best" ... heh.

/but I've almost worn out my VHS's of The Quiet Man and The Shootist

504 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:42:07am

re: #499 Nevergiveup

Meanwhile, Palestinian sources in Gaza reported that hundreds of residents of the Nada neighborhood located close to the Erez crossing in northern Gaza have begun evacuating their houses fearing an extensive Israeli operation.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I thought there were no homes in "refugee camps"?

hopefully Egypt is gonna have a big ass problem to deal with when these people want out of Gaza entirely...there is nowhere to go but south

505 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:43:00am
506 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:43:38am

re: #481 doppelganglander

They're as bad as the people who condemn moms who bottle feed. I nursed all three of mine for varying lengths of time, but not everyone can or wants to do that.

yeah, so much for "choice".

507 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:43:46am

re: #500 Dustyvet

"My heart tells me this Tartar woman is for me"

Whoever made the decision to cast John Wayne as the young Genghis Khan either had too much imagination or too little

the guy was six/four...whats that tell ya?....pretty funny

508 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:43:47am

re: #499 Nevergiveup

Meanwhile, Palestinian sources in Gaza reported that hundreds of residents of the Nada neighborhood located close to the Erez crossing in northern Gaza have begun evacuating their houses fearing an extensive Israeli operation.

Every moment is waiting they may soon regret.

Ralph Peters on the front Page at the NY Post is reporting that Israel is hesitating for fear of Obama.

As for our president-elect, his all-too-coy insistence that "we have only one president at a time" has been selective from the start. Glad to pontificate on stimulus packages and union benefits, Obama has used the one-president mantra to avoid taking stands on difficult issues that bedevil or bewilder him.

Our president-elect needed to make a clear, prompt statement in support of Israel. He didn't. If I were an Israeli leader, I'd be worried, too.

509 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:43:48am

re: #493 doppelganglander

Did you see Valkyrie? I heard it tried to de-Nazify the Nazis so the audience would have someone to root for -- for example, they didn't wear the usual swastika armbands.

He begins the movie speaking German..ala Hunt for Red October.. Then he reverts to pure English while the rest of the cast speaks in German or English accents...He speaks in his natural voice most of the movie..You can't make this sh*t up

510 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:44:36am

re: #496 Bloodnok

Dialogue. Is that something you do to celebrate Arbor Day?

Don't get the reference.
Chuck it up to ignorance

/ ... (-: ... diversionary tactic

511 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:44:48am

re: #504 albusteve

hopefully Egypt is gonna have a big ass problem to deal with when these people want out of Gaza entirely...there is nowhere to go but south

Egypt knows they'll have a big-ass problem, that's why they open fire on them when they break through the Rafah crossing.

512 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:45:03am

re: #439 pre-Boomer Marine brat

FYI, but are you aware that she did her own singing in The Fabulous Baker Boys?

I just asked my husband that question and he said, "She sang?"

513 songbird  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:45:11am

re: #509 HoosierHoops

Happy New Year, HoosierHoops. Hope its a great one for you and family!

514 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:45:44am

re: #503 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah. I rented that once ... (ONCE).
It "was not his best" ... heh.

/but I've almost worn out my VHS's of The Quiet Man and The Shootist

I loved his rich and quaint dialog in the 'Shootist'....he went out right at the very top imo...

515 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:45:56am

Rockets of Hitler

The Katyusha rocket comes in many forms and shapes but the ones fired by Hamas and Hezbollah are unique in the world- they are the first military munitions to be mass manufactured in furtherance of committing a war crime. It is a war crime to fire weapons at civilians and civilian areas with the express intention of hitting civilians. But the rockets of Hezbollah and Hamas go one leap past even that, to a level of moral excrableness that is hard to match; the rockets have been re-engineered and mass produced with ball bearing warheads instead of the standard military high explosive round. Instead of being an inaccurate outmoded and relatively ineffective artillery round, the new Katyushas of Hamas and Hezbollah, now called GRADS and Kassams, are designed ONLY to inflict civilian casualties and terrorize civilian populations.

You are what you shoot at. You are what you shoot. Israel does everything she can to avoids civilian deaths and Hamas bends over backwards to cause them.

Knowing this, you can now hate them a little more. This is why there is no moral equivalence with Hamas because Hamas exists in the realm of the deepest basement of immoral war criminals. They adore Hitler; use Nazi propaganda and they openly express the intent to commit genocide against the survivors of Hitler's crimes. Those who support Hamas in anyway are complicit in their crimes. Leftists who express "solidarity with Hamas and the people of Gaza" are guilty of the same moral gymnastics that their forebears did from 1939-1941 when they supported Hitler because their morality was founded on a willfully blind political correctness to make common cause with an avowed enemy with whom war is inevitable. You cannot believe in feminism, multiculturalism and secular humanism and be at peace with the Islamic radical movement, whose chauvinism, bigotry, intolerance and misogyny are 100% at odds with everything the left claims they believe.

In the end we are all at war with radical Islam, the only question is when and under what circumstances the left finally wakes up and realizes it. By the time ten western cities are vaporized by nuclear missiles, it will be too late.

516 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:46:06am

re: #513 songbird

Happy New Year, HoosierHoops. Hope its a great one for you and family!

{SongBird} Happy New Year!

517 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:46:25am

re: #500 Dustyvet

"My heart tells me this Tartar woman is for me"

Whoever made the decision to cast John Wayne as the young Genghis Khan either had too much imagination or too little

Well, ... she WAS saucy.

518 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:47:14am

re: #492 DisturbedEma

Oh, I was ok with my pain level. . .I did my 7 deliveries with no pain meds, but I guess I was expecting the breathinging to help more than it did. . .

7! oh my. My one was so awful I never did it again. They say you forget the pain --yah right!

Actually, I had a horrible pregnancy --so it just wasn't the delivery that put me off.

I have one friend that had 4 children and no stitches, no problems and she is about 5' 0' and weights about 98 lbs. Some women were made to have babies.

I was not. Although, I wish I could rent-a-baby once a week or so.

519 doriangrey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:47:16am
520 EmmmieG  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:47:28am

re: #481 doppelganglander

They're as bad as the people who condemn moms who bottle feed. I nursed all three of mine for varying lengths of time, but not everyone can or wants to do that.

I had one epidural out of five births, and breastfed all five for the entire first year. We went straight from nursing to cup. One blocked duct and no mastistis.

I was fortunate to be genetically built for nursing*, and I realize that it was just luck. I think it's great we live in an era when such high-quality formula is available, because babies used to die without it.

It's not about ideology, or philosophy, or purity, or any such crap. It's about the baby. Do what ya gotta do, and love those cute little fat baby faces.

*to fend off the crude jokes, I'm talking about productivity of the glands, not the cup size. Sheesh.

521 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:47:46am

re: #505 buzzsawmonkey

Haven't seen it; just the trailers. But with all the hype about how von Stauffenberg and his cronies "saw evil and tried to do something about it," the "evil" they saw was that they were beginning to lose.

Von Stauffenberg and his cronies had no trouble swearing personal allegiance to Hitler and plunging Europe into war. They didn't have a problem with war materiel being sidetracked to feed the Nazi murder machine (essential rolling stock needed to move supplies to the Russian Front was diverted to ship Jews to the gas chambers). They made their move--they "woke up to evil" in 1944, after the Allies had successfully landed in Normandy and Italy had surrendered.

In other words, they decided to take out Hitler in order to save their own asses, not because they disagreed with him in any other way. And they botched the job, at that.

Heroes? Not so very much.

Exactly. They were hoping for a negotiated armistice with the US and Britain to prevent a Soviet invasion and occupation (knowing full well Stalin would treat them at least as cruelly as they treated the Russians).

522 Blackacre  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:47:55am

re: #472 Cato the Elder

Many thanks for that enlightening and thoughtful response. So this, like so much other Israel bashing, festers out of the swamp at Turtle Bay. But why does the J-Post give it credence, and why does it perpetuate it, by using it?

523 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:48:12am

re: #511 Spiny Norman

Egypt knows they'll have a big-ass problem, that's why they open fire on them when they break through the Rafah crossing.

I think the whole Israeli strategy is brilliant...if that's their intention and I'm sure it is....I've been saying all week they have to drag Egypt into this mess one way or another

524 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:49:13am

re: #509 HoosierHoops

He begins the movie speaking German..ala Hunt for Red October.. Then he reverts to pure English while the rest of the cast speaks in German or English accents...He speaks in his natural voice most of the movie..You can't make this sh*t up

Are you talking about John Wayne or Sean Connery?

525 opnion  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:49:45am

re: #490 Dustyvet

Worst John Wayne role ever....


Genghis Khan


"Well gather your Mongol hoards...wa ha!"


Did ya see him in qan Alamo movie as Davet Crocket, coonskin cap & all? "Wall,git down from that horse Monsewer & have some of these friholeee beans.

526 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:49:48am

re: #481 doppelganglander

They're as bad as the people who condemn moms who bottle feed. I nursed all three of mine for varying lengths of time, but not everyone can or wants to do that.

I nursed both of my boys as well--my oldest for a year, my youngest for six months. On some of the breastfeeding message boards, they are dominated by those purist mommies whose millionaire husbands let them stay home and keep their homes in a good neighborhood---or one lady who was just denouncing a woman who had bottle-fed her adopted baby? Her husband was not a bajillionaire, but he was in the military, they lived on base, and the kids went to DOD schools. Ever since my oldest was 4 months old, I either worked, or we would have to live in the 'hood and send the kids to schools that aren't taught in English.

527 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:49:52am

re: #509 HoosierHoops

He begins the movie speaking German..ala Hunt for Red October.. Then he reverts to pure English while the rest of the cast speaks in German or English accents...He speaks in his natural voice most of the movie..You can't make this sh*t up

I should clarify.. In the Hunt for Red October everybody spoke Russian in the beginning of the movie then in one neat scene everybody converts to English..You know how much we hate sub-titles..
But Only Tom Converts to natural English..everybody else keeps the accent..
It doesn't work..but what's new?

528 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:50:32am

re: #499 Nevergiveup

Meanwhile, Palestinian sources in Gaza reported that hundreds of residents of the Nada neighborhood located close to the Erez crossing in northern Gaza have begun evacuating their houses fearing an extensive Israeli operation.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I thought there were no homes in "refugee camps"?

And the same happening in other neighborhoods. Whatcha wanna bet they're very much aware that Hamas has built bunkers among/beneath the houses?

/only idiots would stay

529 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:50:48am

re: #515 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

thanks AK...you speak for me a whole lot better than I can for myself...

530 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:50:54am

re: #510 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Don't get the reference.
Chuck it up to ignorance

/ ... (-: ... diversionary tactic

dye-a-log....awww forget it! :-)

531 EmmmieG  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:51:32am

re: #527 HoosierHoops

I should clarify.. In the Hunt for Red October everybody spoke Russian in the beginning of the movie then in one neat scene everybody converts to English..You know how much we hate sub-titles..
But Only Tom Converts to natural English..everybody else keeps the accent..
It doesn't work..but what's new?

Quoting the book of Revelations. That was a great moment, and a great film.

532 ggt  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:51:33am

bbiab or not.

:)

533 Blackacre  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:52:44am

re: #515 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Another in a long line of excellent posts.

534 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:53:11am

re: #512 debutaunt

I just asked my husband that question and he said, "She sang?"

LOL!

I downloaded a YouTube of that piano-top scene! I've read that, during the filming, she was nearly paranoid about exposing herself.

/one helluva singer!

535 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:53:12am

re: #499 Nevergiveup

I thought there were no homes in "refugee camps"?

They will always be called refuge camps. They could all have million dollar homes with two car garages and they will still be called refugee camps by enemies.

Their true aims - as are those of their allies and the media who continue to refer to them as refuge camps- is in the description.

They will be considered refuges- in refuge camps- until they are no longer refuges which will occur only when they can make claim to the ruins of Israel.

They will still be called refuge camps even if they are located in a new born Palestinian State. Because the ultimate aim to destroy Israel will never die no matter what Israel concedes.

536 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:53:26am

re: #519 doriangrey

Israel should start bombing at one end of Gaza, then bomb the Rafah crossing and return to the other end of Gaza and bomb their way to the Rafah crossing forcing every single Palestinian in Gaza to flee across the Rafah border or get bombed. Fuck the Egyptians if they dont like it, let them shoot the Palestinians as they enter Egypt if they dare.

just before Wrath got bounced he argued that same thing...I oppose shooting Gazans entirely and that's not the point...but if it happens then that's another matter...like I said...one way or another....

537 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:54:08am
538 itellu3times  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:54:48am

re: #493 doppelganglander

Did you see Valkyrie? I heard it tried to de-Nazify the Nazis so the audience would have someone to root for -- for example, they didn't wear the usual swastika armbands.

I like Tom Cruise as an actor, but not for this role. I don't like movies about "good Nazis" anyway, the less evil is not all that good.

539 Macker  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:54:52am

re: #487 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes. It's the one thing I had against John Wayne (simply fantastic as he was). For instance, in The Sea Chase he acted out the role of an old-line German Imperial Navy Captain with his standard "Old West" accent. He did a fine job in that film, but something didn't quite fit.

Wasn't that the same thing he did when he played Genghis Khan?

540 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:55:20am

re: #525 opnion

Did ya see him in qan Alamo movie as Davet Crocket, coonskin cap & all? "Wall,git down from that horse Monsewer & have some of these friholeee beans.

terrible and he produced it....at least Crocket was a tall guy in fact

541 opnion  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:56:16am

re: #540 albusteve

terrible and he produced it....at least Crocket was a tall guy in fact

But, it was ok because it was John Wayne.

542 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:57:57am

re: #539 Macker

Wasn't that the same thing he did when he played Genghis Khan?

I don't remember much about that movie (nor do I want to), but I believe the answer is yes.

543 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 11:59:40am

re: #515 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Islam no longer has to conquer by force. You do not have to but see Europe- Britain in particular- to know that Islam will conquer from within.

The danger is that without those visual and pain of cities going up in nuclear smoke, when the non-Islamic citizens in the West wake up, it may be too late.

544 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:00:06pm

re: #537 buzzsawmonkey

"The Shootist" has a couple of clanky moments--the price of filmmaking in the '70s--but it is, overall, an elegant and moving film.

It is, in a way, echoed at the end of Eastwood's "Unforgiven." "The Shootist" is about a man trying to die with dignity, knowing that he can rely only on himself as the vultures begin to circle--and to be buried with dignity, knowing that he can only control this and stave off the sensationalists and souvenir hunters to a limited extent. Eastwood's demands to the townspeople to treat the body of his dead friend Morgan Freeman right--one man trying to do face down a town of rabble--has a similar feeling.

the Eastwood flick is probably the better movie technically...I'd say conveying the sentiment about even...not an edge but I got kick out of the turn of the century sets and props and the age of Wayne...the Unforgiven seemed darker...

545 albusteve  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:00:34pm

re: #541 opnion

But, it was ok because it was John Wayne.

well Hell Yeah!

546 Wide Right  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:00:50pm

re: #515 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

AG,
That was an incredibly astute comment. One of the best I've ever read. I have always wondered how the "progressives" could be so aligned with groups that are the exact opposite of their beliefs. You put it very succinctly for me. Good job!

547 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:04:14pm

re: #518 ggt

7! oh my. My one was so awful I never did it again. They say you forget the pain --yah right!

Actually, I had a horrible pregnancy --so it just wasn't the delivery that put me off.

I have one friend that had 4 children and no stitches, no problems and she is about 5' 0' and weights about 98 lbs. Some women were made to have babies.

I was not. Although, I wish I could rent-a-baby once a week or so.

I nursed them all for the simple fact that I could not always get Kosher formula where we were living. . .but I see now many are now Kosher. . .sheesh!

Yeah, I had pretty easy deliveries (don't tell the kids, it will cut into my Mother's Day loot stipend :)

548 Malleus Dei  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:08:58pm

Good riddance.

549 Sunlight  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:10:25pm

Allison Kaplan Sommer, near Tel Aviv, editor at PJ media, just posted a good blog entry:
War in Gaza is Hell…

Also, this one is popping up all over facebook. I think somebody linked it here before.

[Link: sderot.aish.com...]

550 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:17:57pm

re: #421 Nevergiveup

re: #418 summergurl
Apparently I do
,-)

So then What am I wearing?

Nothing?

551 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:19:50pm

re: #423 Dustyvet

The Road To Hong Cong...:)

Hong Cong?

552 BaseballMom57  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:20:20pm

re: #307 path

That was hilarious! Genius I say!

553 BaseballMom57  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:29:31pm

re: #376 summergurl

I LOVE "How it's made"! Years ago (maybe early 70s) there used to be a show called "Hot Dog" that did the same thing - showed how things were manufactured. Loved that one, too.

554 BaseballMom57  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:32:48pm

re: #407 debutaunt

Are you speaking of the movie with Billy Connolly? LOVE that movie!

555 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:36:54pm

re: #467 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Indeed. She showed in The Russia House that she can put on a different personna, (like Jodie Foster did in Nell, but which all too few actors and actresses are incapable of.)

I'm sure you meant "...all too few actors and actresses are incapable of."

'D

556 sevoguy  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:37:40pm

Only with the death of many, many clerics, will peace be achieved. Even though their holy book called koran will still contain the same teachings, the clerics that will take the place of those that should be killed by the civilized world, will have a different prespective on life.

Americans and Europeans need to learn about the koran to better understand this religion of satan.

557 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:38:05pm
558 theblakester  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:47:51pm

Palestinian medics said that nine people were killed, including two of Rayyan’s four wives and four of his 12 children, and around 30 were wounded in the air strike. ...


Typical welfare society logic. The more kids you have the more social welfare you receive. Since they were the only one home in the eight story apartment building mean that they owned the whole thing.

559 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:48:29pm

re: #465 DisturbedEma

re: #469 ggt

re: #480 Dianna

re: #481 doppelganglander

...

Couldn't help but notice the total lack of male up-dingers ! ! !

560 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:54:01pm

re: #488 buzzsawmonkey

I just learned today that rice and beans/black-eyed peas (no ham) is a traditional Sephardic dish at Rosh HaShanah, the Jewish New Year, in addition to being a traditional Southern dish for the secular New Year.

Interesting.

Southern tradition: hog jowl and black-eyed peas. An absolute must for good luck during the year!

Can add collards or turnip greens, but not necessary for luck quotient.

Heh.

561 So What  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:57:10pm

I remember Sean Connery complaining at the self serving Oscar awards about the character played by Mel Gibson in Braveheart of his not being a Scotsman where Connery was was and felt that he could have portrayed the character more in line with accuracy in its presentation as a Scot speaking person.
Excuse me Tom Cruise with that Hillary type nasal presentation of his and having no vocal range or the ability to speak with some form of a German accent did no justice to the role. In my view, he made a mockery out of a true German hero. After 30 minutes of his "acting" performance I got up and walked out out the theater. Hollywood wonders why ticket box office sales are down?

562 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:57:13pm

re: #491 RememberSekhmet?

I am not sure I ever want to have a kid without drugs.

I had one kid without drugs... the other one went to rehab... she's better now.

/snort

563 useless  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:57:40pm

re: #546 Wide Right

I liked the comment too, and I have always wondered how the libs could even defend a mindset that if it had its way, would murder each and every liberal.

The only thing I can come up with is that liberals have a greater hate for the west (America, western society, etc) than they do for true despotic types. If you consider that to a liberal, there IS no greater evil in the world than an American with "traditional" values, it makes sense that they would find sympathy with any other philosophy that comes to the same conclusions that liberals come to. You know that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. We used this justification on Saddam, and we are right to do so. The libs would commit treason, excuse homicide, genocide and any other evil act if it furthers their cause. They always have.

564 kenprice  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:59:20pm

May he rest, in pieces.

565 LeePro  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:00:47pm

re: #492 DisturbedEma

re: #469 ggt
I can't stand it when the "purists" insist that everyone can get thru it with LaMaze.

Oh, I was ok with my pain level. . .I did my 7 deliveries with no pain meds, but I guess I was expecting the breathinging to help more than it did. . .

PURIST!

///

566 mean Gene  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:01:48pm

If I were ''Elder of Zion," at the blog he keeps I'd be debating if these human shields count as ''PaliArab Self Deaths," that he keeps tabs on.
Every non-Muslim culture, if it knows an attack or disaster is imminent seeks all means possible to protect the women and children.
Not Pali's.
Not Muslims.
[Link: elderofziyon.blogspot.com...]

567 BakiShamil  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:15:36pm

Mashala leader of scumbags was put asleep. Good job IAF. G-D Bless Israel

568 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:26:13pm

re: #282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Roast Beast is Kosher?

Only if you schecht it.

569 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:36:39pm

re: #480 Dianna

I had a friend who trained as a midwife.

Her favorite moments involved the ladies who believed that all those classes were sufficient, and they'd get through it just fine. Ha!

My friend had three kids before the training. She knew all about it, and was very nice when the ladies broke down and asked for drugs. Heavy drugs. Oh, and give my husband a vasectomy, while you're at it!

On the other hand, I watched a friend go through a thirty-six hour labor, not only without pain meds but WITH pitocin. It was kind of amazing. She did a lot of deep breathing, and just rode the whole thing out.

Then she had a second child. ;)

570 kirk  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:43:40pm

No apartment-swarm photos? Damn!

571 SpiritOf1683  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:13:15pm

re: #172 realwest

Hey Ben - from your link


So what is that 44% comprised of - children?!
Effin stupid poll anyway.


It's rather easier to discern who comprises that 13%.

572 rabidfox  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:41:17pm

5 -10 - 5

573 deportman  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:37:46pm

In a way all of HAMAS leaders want to die. These clowns expose themselves deliberately so that the Israelis do kill them. I think it is a perverse death wish. Ayash, Yassin, Rantisi and now this moron basically have allowed the Israelis to pinpoint their respective whereabouts and take them out. Hopefully all future HAMAS will follow their example and telegraph their locations to the IDF. The only question is the HAMAS idiot who lives in hiding in Syria. I guess life is really good in Damascus.

574 Cutty Sark  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 4:40:15pm

Hamas dares Isreal to kill them ...that is as they fire rockets from amidst civilians . They accomplish two things , martyrdom [72virgins & assorted young boys ] and good propaganda material as they guarantee collateral casualties . And the restof the world sucks it up .
This latest Hamas leader to get wacked , only a few days ago stated that " it will be either victory over Israel or martyrdom " .....uh ......Israel has made it the latter .

happy martyrdom ......

575 yochanan  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 4:41:34pm

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

just got in what did i miss?

576 angryconservative  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 4:46:22pm

Lets see we got this scum bag and his 4 wives and 11 kids.

Nice Work!

577 kansas  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 5:38:16pm

I do not get what has changed. The whole tone of the media that is getting through is tough shit Hamas. You asked for it, you got it.

578 anti-looter  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 6:38:55pm

It is nice to see that this one gets to meet his 72 Helen Thomas virgins - hope it was worth it.

579 Yaacov ben Moshe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 6:48:10pm

They were warned and didn't leave? That has to qualify as a "lifetime" achievement Darwin Award- drain a whole defective gene pool with one big boom.

580 marsl  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 6:58:24pm

"In his last speech, broadcast on the eve of his death on Hamas's television station, Mr Rayyan said that he was looking forward to a showdown with Israel's ground forces should they invade Gaza. “We will succeed with God's will,” he said. “God promises us either victory or martyrdom.”"

I'm glad God choose option B.

Happy New Year in Hell, scumbag.

Those who don't love their children are a shame to the Humanity. Children are the best of Humanity and should be loved and preserved from wars. Palis think otherwise. Kids are good to go to wars, because they have many of them.

That makes me sick.

581 dhimmisum  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 7:05:24pm

/umm....why are they always clerics? I thought religious people were peaceful and tolerant? I am confused.....I thought that New Years would bring tolerance and Champagne (is Car-B-Que 1147 the next vintage?)...the messiah is coming in just a couple of days....can't we all just get along till then?

582 winston06  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 7:05:47pm

good riddance

583 yaacov ben moshe  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 7:56:31pm

re: #580 marsl

"In his last speech, broadcast on the eve of his death on Hamas's television station, Mr Rayyan said that he was looking forward to a showdown with Israel's ground forces should they invade Gaza. “We will succeed with God's will,” he said. “God promises us either victory or martyrdom dumb mutha.”"


Fixed it

584 isiah  Thu, Jan 1, 2009 8:03:26pm

does Hamas have any NON-senior members? Am I the only one who has noticed that the life expectancy of a senior hamas member seems to be about a week?

585 Jimmah  Fri, Jan 2, 2009 5:49:33am

Is it me, or are Hamas spiritual leaders getting younger these days?

586 Amer-I-Can  Fri, Jan 2, 2009 6:24:41am

Still a coward in the end, hiding behind women and children. Couldn't happen to a more deserving POS. All Hamas "freedom fighters" are cowards, less than men, women or children... hell, less than dogs... they are all pigs and deserve every bit of "special treatment" the Israelis can give them.

I fully believe that "Don't ask, don't tell" should be attached to any treatment a Hamas TERRORIST gets at the hands of the Israelis if caught alive. I am sure they are all wishing for death not just to be martyrs, but for this very reason.

587 Joel  Fri, Jan 2, 2009 6:48:09am

I hope he suffered an excruciating death.

588 svines  Fri, Jan 2, 2009 8:23:00am

I only wish IDF could find the rest of the cowardly, snivelling, hiding leadership who leave their bretheren to die while they cower in hidey-holes fit only for dogs.

589 Mr Chompers  Fri, Jan 2, 2009 10:38:53am

One 72 year old virgin coming up....


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