The Intelligence & Terrorism Information Center has a report (PDF) on Palestinian rockets and mortar shells fired into Israel for the past 8 years, including this chart showing the rapid increase in attacks since Hamas took power in Gaza.
(Hat tip: paparock.)
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:17:09pm |
Wait, I thought Isreal was the one doing the intense bombing.
/
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:17:15pm |
The withdrawal from Gaza didn't go as planned.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:17:34pm |
Those smuggling tunnels have been very busy. Can we stop sending money to the Egyptians now?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:17:49pm |
SSDD. It's beyond sad that this has been going on for so long that we have to have graphs and charts to explain it.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:18:31pm |
But Hamas is a legitimate political entity. Just ask Carter.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:18:55pm |
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ROP?LOL Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:18:56pm |
yea, but these were prolly put together by juice, so there you go
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FightingBack Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:19:27pm |
And, what did you expect? These folks are in refugee camps. They are thin, starved, and out of oxygen tanks, too.
/
(And they have their own TV Station and Mickey Mouse)
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:19:49pm |
re: #12 Dustyvet
Anybody from the frigging MSM bother to read it?
All of their meetings are to come up with talking points to discredit it.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:20:22pm |
Amazing data. And the MFMSM and some of my Facebook "friends" are pointing the finger at big, bad Israel. As I've said before and I'll say again: Every nation has a right to defend its people and its borders. Every nation has a right to be. And yes, Hamas, that means Israel.
Spit.
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Racer X Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:20:27pm |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
The withdrawal from Gaza didn't go as planned.
Hard to believe huh. Everyone thought for sure that if Israel just gave the palestinians what they wanted - their own territory to run as they see fit - that everyone would be happy.
What went wrong?
/ rhetorical
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:20:29pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:20:36pm |
Koskidz still supporting Hamas...
The aggression continues; over 400 dead
As the Israeli blitz entered its sixth day, Hamas again indicated that it would accept a ceasefire so long as the illegal blockade is lifted. Israel responded by killing a senior Hamas official along with his wife and children, continuing its attacks on the governing infrastructure in Gaza and bombing a school, killing 10.
...
As even the hawkish, right-wing Israeli Intelligence and Terrorism Information Centre concedes [.pdf], before November 4 Hamas "was careful to maintain the ceasefire". This despite the fact that the blockade remained intact and thus, as Amnesty International observes, "Gaza residents experienced little or no improvement to their lives".Rather, Israel refuses to end the siege because it remains bent on reversing the results of the 2006 elections, punishing Palestinians for voting the 'wrong' way and thwarting a dreaded Hamas ‘peace offensive’.
heh.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:20:46pm |
Cold hard facts will not get in the way of the meme. These are just "amateur" mortars and rockets and the blame will be on the evil Zionists.
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:20:50pm |
Can someone make these charts into a fucking billboard?
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:21:02pm |
Doubt we'll be seeing those charts on CNN or on the front page of any newspapers.
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:21:12pm |
Were the spikes in 2004 measures to get Kerry elected?
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FightingBack Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:21:22pm |
Israel has the right (and duty) to defend itself. I want to hear this loud and clear. From Himself. Again.
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theblakester Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:21:29pm |
re: #7 FightingBack
Not even 20 post in and you beat me to it. Damn it!
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:21:33pm |
re: #11 freedombilly
But Hamas is a legitimate political entity. Just ask Carter.
And i wonder why we haven't heard from that SOB?
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Spiny Norman Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:21:50pm |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
The withdrawal from Gaza didn't go as planned.
Well, until this week, it certainly did by Hamas' plans.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:21:52pm |
re: #21 Sharmuta
Cold hard facts will not get in the way of the meme. These are just "amateur" mortars and rockets and the blame will be on the evil Zionists.
Agreed. Don't you love it? Israel is better at firing stuff so they are the evil ones. Sick.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:21:52pm |
re: #14 FightingBack
And, what did you expect? These folks are in refugee camps. They are thin, starved, and out of oxygen tanks, too.
/
(And they have their own TV Station and Mickey Mouse)
along with Bee's and other critters...
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:22:10pm |
re: #12 Dustyvet
Anybody from the frigging MSM bother to read it?
So, as you can see the attacks have been up since. . .
ZIONIST CRAP
Excuse me?
THIS IS ZIONIST CRAP. . . . .
Chants in many languages ensue, press coference ends
Headline
Pro Pal protesters question report
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:22:26pm |
re: #27 Nevergiveup
And i wonder why we haven't heard from that SOB?
Don't ask questions, just enjoy:)
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:22:46pm |
re: #23 JammieWearingFool
Doubt we'll be seeing those charts on CNN or on the front page of any newspapers.
Sure we will. They will just change the names around.
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Opinionated Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:22:59pm |
So I'm guessing surrendering Gaza to the barbarians was not such a good idea.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:23:05pm |
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Shug Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:23:09pm |
Does anybody know why they launched 1730 rockets in 2008?
because they couldn't get any more
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jamgarr Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:23:12pm |
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:23:30pm |
re: #17 freedombilly
Amazing data. And the MFMSM and some of my Facebook "friends" are pointing the finger at big, bad Israel. As I've said before and I'll say again: Every nation has a right to defend its people and its borders. Every nation has a right to be. And yes, Hamas, that means Israel.
Spit.
AND there is NO OTHER COUNTRY that would allow rockets fired at it daily for years and not act. . . there would be rallies TO RETURN FIRE!
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FightingBack Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:23:32pm |
re: #35 Opinionated
So I'm guessing surrendering Gaza to the barbarians was not such a good idea.
Surrender is never a good idea.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:23:50pm |
re: #33 buzzsawmonkey
Who do I ask whether Carter is a legitimate political entity?
Well don't piss into the wind. I tried that once and......
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:24:01pm |
re: #33 buzzsawmonkey
Who do I ask whether Carter is a legitimate political entity?
Speaking of Carter, where the hell is peanut brains?
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Last Mohican Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:24:31pm |
re: #27 Nevergiveup
And i wonder why we haven't heard from that SOB?
Maybe he's incommunicado, buried in Hamas's command bunker, reviewing the photographs that he took during his most recent visit to Israel with Hamas leaders, so that they can more effectively target their rocket fire on Israeli kindergartens.
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Spiny Norman Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:24:33pm |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
Koskidz still supporting Hamas...
The aggression continues; over 400 dead
...thwarting a dreaded Hamas ‘peace offensive’.heh.
The what?!?
Is that kossack smoking crack?
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theblakester Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:24:35pm |
Don't worry if it were to ever show up on CNN. They would just have a chart showing the deaths of the Palis vs. Israelis, thus muting any arguments.
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FightingBack Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:25:01pm |
re: #42 Dustyvet
Speaking of Carter, where the hell is peanut brains?
Which one? The new one's in Hawaii.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:25:01pm |
re: #41 Nevergiveup
Well don't piss into the wind. I tried that once and......
and avoid electric fences at all costs...
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:25:16pm |
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:25:19pm |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
The withdrawal from Gaza didn't go as planned.
It went exactly as planned.
/everyone and their grandmother knew what was going to happen, but it was necessary to remove the "occupation" excuse from the vocabulary
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:25:24pm |
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FightingBack Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:25:50pm |
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Emperor Norton Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:25:59pm |
I could easily see those charts in USA Today.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:05pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:12pm |
re: #33 buzzsawmonkey
Who do I ask whether Carter is a legitimate political entity?
Carters words mean less than nothing...his time is over
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:12pm |
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:20pm |
re: #48 Dustyvet
and avoid electric fences at all costs...
Oh, and if you do try to piss into the wind, remember not to breath thru your mouth?
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doriangrey Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:20pm |
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jamgarr Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:36pm |
re: #46 buzzsawmonkey
Oh. So Carter is the prime spokesman for the Protocols of the Elders who are Lyin'?
Just old (being very generous)
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:40pm |
CNN will report the number of mosques bombed by Israel before they ever report the number of rockets fired into a sovereign nation.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:47pm |
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revGDright Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:51pm |
Looks like a hockey stick to me. Palestinian rockets must be associated with Global Warning somehow. Ir must be the Republicans' fault.
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Last Mohican Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:57pm |
re: #50 Killian Bundy
/everyone and their grandmother knew what was going to happen, but it was necessary to remove the "occupation" excuse from the vocabulary
And yet it's still there. Unilaterally withdrawing from Gaza, with no demands and nothing gained in return, hasn't helped Israel's public image one tenth of one iota.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:26:58pm |
Here's a little calenda, for Dcember, which also shows the days israel sent aid into Gaza
[Link: elderofziyon.blogspot.com...]
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:27:40pm |
re: #57 Nevergiveup
Oh, and if you do try to piss into the wind, remember not to breath thru your mouth?
And don't piss up a hill either...especially in bare feet.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:27:43pm |
Good night Lizards. Stay scaly. Sandman is calling. See all the usual insomniacs on the LNDT.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:27:46pm |
More visual aids:
I just posted this on the dying thread below.
Links to other photos by the photographer who took the "santa card" photo.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:28:00pm |
re: #5 jaunte
Those smuggling tunnels have been very busy. Can we stop sending money to the Egyptians now?
Did anybody else just get a mental image of a goat being flung by catapult into Israel?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:28:02pm |
re: #60 freedombilly
CNN will report the number of mosques bombed by Israel before they ever report the number of rockets fired into a sovereign nation.
so what...who cares..it's not about CNN
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:28:13pm |
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Opinionated Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:28:41pm |
re: #40 FightingBack
Surrender is never a good idea.
You want to destroy the "Peace Process" industry?
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Spiny Norman Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:29:25pm |
re: #58 doriangrey
All kossack smoke crack...
I figured most of them were "hemp activist" pot heads, to be honest.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:29:27pm |
re: #72 Opinionated
You want to destroy the "Peace Process" industry?
and it is!...good point...where's their bailout now?
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Dianna Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:29:32pm |
re: #44 Spiny Norman
The what?!?
Is that kossack smoking crack?
Not even crack can explain that level of delusion.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:29:39pm |
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:29:41pm |
The number of mortars fired in 2006 (22) is interesting. Wonder why it was so low that year? It doesn't correlate with the number of rockets.
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Quilly Mammoth Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:30:00pm |
The Stoopid is strong in that koskid
This, however, is something Israel refuses to do, and not because of the Qassams. According to the Israeli Foreign Ministry’s own data, between the beginning of the ceasefire in June and Israel’s violation of it on November 4 Palestinians fired an average of only three rockets per month (via) into Israel:
So Hamas was keeping the ceasefire even though there were still rockets getting lobbed into Israel? WTF! That goes past Pretzelian logic and straight on into Willful Dumb Ass.
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:30:24pm |
re: #65 buzzsawmonkey
I have never understood why the larger death toll among the "Palestinians" is worthy of comment; they send their children to death intentionally, after all.
The only reason anyone would get exercised over the "Palestinian" deaths is that they are trying to cover up their rabid desire to simply see more dead Jews.
Hmmmmm; maybe I'm onto something.
In a way the Isrealis just might be saving Palestinian lives.
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:30:40pm |
re: #70 albusteve
so what...who cares..it's not about CNN
Sadly to a whole lot of people it is all about CNN. Don't misunderstand me, Israel should blow every single mosque that is hiding missiles waiting to be fired at innocent people right off of the map. And then post videos of it. It was merely a commentary on CNN (which makes me sick).
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theblakester Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:31:15pm |
re: #65 buzzsawmonkey
Sure hope your not a journalist for your day job. Write a story about that and you'll have to find another job.
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:31:16pm |
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Lincolntf Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:31:26pm |
2006 was a down year in the mortar biz for some reason.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:31:29pm |
How many mortars or rockets did Canada fire into the USA in 07 or Belgium into France?
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:32:26pm |
re: #83 Ford_Prefect
Is Ford a girl's name where your from?
Haven't you ever heard the expression she must have been a mustang in bed?
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Opinionated Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:32:35pm |
Too bad the graph doesn't go back to before the Oslo peace signings.
Isn't odd how the more Israel concedes the more violent the barbarians become?
You would think that after 15 years that would be noticed by the State Dept, the various press outlets, EVERYONE.
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doriangrey Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:32:58pm |
re: #85 Nevergiveup
How many mortars or rockets did Canada fire into the USA in 07 or Belgium into France?
Now now, your just quibbling over details.... /s
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:32:58pm |
It seems the hudna was used very well by Hamas. The number of rockets and missiles they are still firing has not abated much, in spite of mroe and more depots being destroyed.
Here's an updated report:
IAF strikes in Gaza; locals flee their homes
If you scroll down a bit, you'l se a nice picture of one of the 'refuge camps' those poor Gazans are living in ( a tad damaged, heh).
Looks like a town to me, with multi-storey buildings, but what do I know ...
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:33:43pm |
re: #81 freedombilly
Sadly to a whole lot of people it is all about CNN. Don't misunderstand me, Israel should blow every single mosque that is hiding missiles waiting to be fired at innocent people right off of the map. And then post videos of it. It was merely a commentary on CNN (which makes me sick).
I didnt mean to sound harsh...but it's a very old story unworthy of any regard by Israel....as for the legions of CNN worshippers I pay no attention...who knows what will become of them and again who cares...CNN is vile...the MSM is my dire enemy
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:33:46pm |
re: #63 Last Mohican
And yet it's still there. Unilaterally withdrawing from Gaza, with no demands and nothing gained in return, hasn't helped Israel's public image one tenth of one iota.
No it's not, it's now called a "siege". Gaza belongs 100% to Hamas. You'll notice that, for the first time ever, Egypt and Saudi Arabia are blaming Hamas.
/nevermind that the Egyptians walled Gaza off too and shoot at anyone trying to cross it
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:33:54pm |
re: #84 Lincolntf
2006 was a down year in the mortar biz for some reason.
Must have been mortar-bored.
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Opinionated Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:34:17pm |
re: #75 albusteve
and it is!...good point...where's their bailout now?
Peace Process Industry got the biggest bailout in American history- it's currency is named Barack Obama.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:34:40pm |
re: #78 Ward Cleaver
The number of mortars fired in 2006 (22) is interesting. Wonder why it was so low that year? It doesn't correlate with the number of rockets.
Them mortars were needed elsewhere, and perhaps not returned in pristine condition by the brethren up North ...
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theblakester Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:34:58pm |
re: #85 Nevergiveup
How many mortars or rockets did Canada fire into the USA in 07 or Belgium into France?
Who would ever know if such a thing were to happen if you were to follow the media. After all, how many stories of the Pali's use of rocket fire have you heard of.
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:35:06pm |
re: #87 Nevergiveup
Haven't you ever heard the expression she must have been a mustang in bed?
LOL. The only image that comes to my mind after that comment is one from The Godfather.
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Quilly Mammoth Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:35:33pm |
Here's what Jimmuh's Carter Center has to say:
The Carter Center is urging both sides to cease violence in and around Gaza, saying it threatens peace talks and Israel's long-term security.
The center founded by former President Jimmy Carter and his wife _ which has offices in Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank _ said Wednesday that Israel must cease attacks endangering civilians in the densely populated territory and Hamas leaders must halt rocket attacks against Israel.
The Atlanta-based Carter Center released a statement saying Israel has a right to protect its citizens but "these operations are disproportionate and detrimental to the ongoing peace efforts."
It said bombing "contributes to the further radicalization of the Palestinian population and undermines Israel's long-term security interests.
I'd like to explain what that means but Babelfish does not have an "Irrational Babbling into English" option.
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jamgarr Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:35:48pm |
re: #73 buzzsawmonkey
"Wands of Elder never prosper."
--Wizard saying, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows"
Olivander?
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freedombilly Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:35:55pm |
re: #92 albusteve
I didnt mean to sound harsh...but it's a very old story unworthy of any regard by Israel....as for the legions of CNN worshippers I pay no attention...who knows what will become of them and again who cares...CNN is vile...the MSM is my dire enemy
Amen brother! I think we are exactly on the same page on this one. Israel (or any nation fighting for survival) should not spend half of one second worrying about anyone's opinion. The rest of us need to fight the MFMSM (thank you dorian) tooth and nail to make sure they don't control the entire story.
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Macker Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:36:19pm |
re: #93 Killian Bundy
No it's not, it's now called a "siege". Gaza belongs 100% to Hamas. You'll notice that, for the first time ever, Egypt and Saudi Arabia are blaming Hamas.
/nevermind that the Egyptians walled Gaza off too and shoot at anyone trying to cross it
Wasn't that a Flying Pig moment?
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:36:36pm |
re: #98 theblakester
How many mortars or rockets did Canada fire into the USA in 07 or Belgium into France?
Who would ever know if such a thing were to happen if you were to follow the media. After all, how many stories of the Pali's use of rocket fire have you heard of.
Well I read the Israeli newspapers every day so I mean even Haaretz mentions it sometimes?
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:37:02pm |
re: #34 Ford_Prefect
Sure we will. They will just change the names around.
Good point. Sometimes I misunderestimate their duplicity.
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IslandLibertarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:37:02pm |
An appropriate response to increasing aggression is WHAT?
/If my family was being attacked, you can be sure I'd use all the force I could get to fight back.
GO ISRAEL!
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FightingBack Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:37:42pm |
re: #100 Quilly Mammoth
It said bombing "contributes to the further radicalization of the Palestinian population and undermines Israel's long-term security interests.
Bombing whom?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:37:55pm |
re: #4 Shug
The straw that broke the camel's back
The straw that pissed the camel so bad, the camel kicked the shit out of the guy who kept loading straw upon it.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:37:57pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:38:09pm |
re: #96 Opinionated
Peace Process Industry got the biggest bailout in American history- it's currency is named Barack Obama.
notice how the chicken shit wont spit out any of his patented fluff?....the shit has already hit the fan for him...the fact that he wont commit after six days is not lost on hid demented minions either
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Opinionated Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:38:23pm |
re: #85 Nevergiveup
How many mortars or rockets did Canada fire into the USA
Does Pamela Anderson count?
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:38:39pm |
re: #100 Quilly Mammoth
Here's what Jimmuh's Carter Center has to say:
I'd like to explain what that means but Babelfish does not have an "Irrational Babbling into English" option.
Now it is such a bizarrely impossible coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the nonexistence of God. The arguement goes something like this:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," say Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED."
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't though of that" and promply vanishes in a puff of logic.
--THGTG
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:38:55pm |
Okay, totally off topic. I can't believe I have a headache today. This is supposed to be one of the benefits of being LDS. No hangovers.
I am suffering from a combination of chocolate hangover (there is such a thing, take my word for it), rainy weather, and not enough sleep.
On the bright side, we just got in a new couch, which means a really big cardboard box for the boys. I won't hear from them for hours. Cool.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:38:57pm |
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Racer X Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:39:00pm |
re: #78 Ward Cleaver
The number of mortars fired in 2006 (22) is interesting. Wonder why it was so low that year? It doesn't correlate with the number of rockets.
Rockets were on sale.
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:39:15pm |
re: #104 Nevergiveup
Well I read the Israeli newspapers every day so I mean even Haaretz mentions it sometimes?
I received an email from one of my friends in Israel. Long story short, she tells me that mortar an rocket fire is something they just deal with. It's business as usual. Her and her family are doing well but it blew me away how nonchalant she was about the explosives being rained into the country. Makes me really appreciate living in the US.
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theblakester Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:39:18pm |
re: #100 Quilly Mammoth
The center founded by former President Jimmy Carter and his wife _ which has offices in Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank _
Sounds to me like the IDF has another target to add to it's list.
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Opinionated Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:39:43pm |
re: #111 albusteve
notice how the chicken shit wont spit out any of his patented fluff?....the shit has already hit the fan for him...the fact that he wont commit after six days is not lost on hid demented minions either
I cited on another thread the headline in the NY Post on that exact point.
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:40:19pm |
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Quilly Mammoth Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:40:27pm |
re: #108 FightingBack
Bombing whom?
Like I said...irrational babbling. What do they think Hamas was doing? Shooting spitballs?
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:40:34pm |
re: #27 Nevergiveup
And i wonder why we haven't heard from that SOB?
If Carter knows what's good for him and his "legacy" (which I doubt), he'll continue to keep his big trap shut on this...
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:40:42pm |
re: #111 albusteve
notice how the chicken shit wont spit out any of his patented fluff?....the shit has already hit the fan for him...the fact that he wont commit after six days is not lost on hid demented minions either
Dazed and American Jewish: The Reality Hits Home
Opens January 20th
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Shug Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:41:25pm |
What do they say, no atheists in a foxhole
I'll bet there are no kos kids living in the rocket and mortar range radius.
I have a dream. That dream is to send every kos kiddie to live in harm's way
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:41:34pm |
re: #123 talon_262
If Carter knows what's good for him and his "legacy" (which I doubt), he'll continue to keep his big trap shut on this...
I thought his legacy was pretty much set; he sent the economy underwater that's why they named a submarine after him instead of an aircraft carrier.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:41:56pm |
re: #115 EmmmieG
Heh.
Its a stress headache - getting the sofa unpacked andplaced in the right place can give anybody a headache.
The box should help alleviate it, as your boys are playing in/with it and won't pester you.
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FightingBack Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:42:00pm |
re: #124 DisturbedEma
I predict that they will never notice. Or admit to noticing.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:42:34pm |
Turkey, starting a two-year stint as a member of the U.N. Security Council, urged Israel on Thursday to end its offensive on Gaza and lift its blockade of the coastal strip.
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
Hey, when does Israel get to be on the Security Council? Oh, I know when the USA elects an Afro-American to the Presidency? But.....
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:42:54pm |
re: #120 Opinionated
I cited on another thread the headline in the NY Post on that exact point.
well there you have it...his timing is as bad as hi ideology....he's a kid
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:43:08pm |
re: #125 Shug
What do they say, no atheists in a foxhole
I'll bet there are no kos kids living in the rocket and mortar range radius.
I have a dream. That dream is to send every kos kiddie to live in
harm's wayBe'er Shiva or Jerusalem with a kippa on
Fixed ;)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:43:10pm |
re: #127 yma o hyd
They have already made it into a tank (I was hoping for a submarine or a train, but I lost that battle years ago), and are using it as a nerf-gun base so yeah, I'm good.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:43:23pm |
re: #126 Jetpilot1101
I thought his legacy was pretty much set; he sent the economy underwater that's why they named a submarine after him instead of an aircraft carrier.
That poor sub has taken enough abuse for a lifetime.
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:44:09pm |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
The withdrawal from Gaza didn't go as planned.
"K-B" -
Maybe it DID. Only former PM Sharon really knows, and he is indisposed to say the least.
-S-
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:44:29pm |
re: #133 Nevergiveup
That poor sub has taken enough abuse for a lifetime.
I heard the sub can only refuel on even days.
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:44:43pm |
re: #133 Nevergiveup
That poor sub has taken enough abuse for a lifetime.
What does that thing fire, anyway? Pamphlets?
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Macker Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:44:45pm |
re: #121 Ford_Prefect
Now that's not very Kosher.
I guess I would not make a good Jew. But that's OK...I'd rather be non-Kosher so my Jewish friends CAN be!
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:45:03pm |
re: #129 Nevergiveup
Turkey, starting a two-year stint as a member of the U.N. Security Council, urged Israel on Thursday to end its offensive on Gaza and lift its blockade of the coastal strip.
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
Hey, when does Israel get to be on the Security Council? Oh, I know when the USA elects an Afro-American to the Presidency? But.....
One needs to know tht the Turkish President, Erdogan, is an Islamist.
He sent his daughters to study in the USA - because there, they could wear headscarves, something 9still) not allowed in Turkish universities.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:45:21pm |
re: #123 talon_262
If Carter knows what's good for him and his "legacy" (which I doubt), he'll continue to keep his big trap shut on this...
the simple fact that he still believes in some phony peace process proves his cred is gone...like my last paycheck, gone gone away...
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Macker Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:45:52pm |
re: #129 Nevergiveup
Hey, when does Israel get to be on the Security Council? Oh, I know when the USA elects an Afro-American to the Presidency? But.....
Or, when the Detroit Lions win the Super Bowl.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:46:04pm |
re: #128 FightingBack
I predict that they will never notice. Or admit to noticing.
Some of my fellow Jews are taing note of the silence. . .ESPECIALLY those who read the shilling in the weekly Jewish Legder. . .Obama was is and will always be a vocal supporter of Israel. . .vote for him and for the security of Israel
and day 6? We will just let Bush, who was used as a battering ram of incompetitence, handle this sever threat to Israel. . only one president at a time. . .of war.
Dammit I hate this!
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:46:19pm |
The rockets, while still having their share of problems and shortcomings, in the terrorists’ view, allow them to disrupt the lives of
Israeli civilians within the range of fire, destabilize their social fabric, override the security fence built by Israel along the Gaza Strip, and create a kind of balance of terror
I question the use of this phrase. I know it must be terrifying for the Palis to endure incoming fire from Israeli attacks, but this phase seems to connote some type of moral equivalence.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:46:30pm |
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:46:58pm |
re: #132 EmmmieG
They have already made it into a tank (I was hoping for a submarine or a train, but I lost that battle years ago), and are using it as a nerf-gun base so yeah, I'm good.
Stuff like that, boxes and such, are so much better to develop the imagination of children than playstations. I congratulate you!
{EmmmieG}
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:47:01pm |
re: #140 albusteve
the simple fact that he still believes in some phony peace process proves his cred is gone...like my last paycheck, gone gone away...
...or like all our tax dollars for the next 50 or 60 years. But hey, CITI can still sponsor the Rose Bowl WTF?!?
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:47:13pm |
re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
I am rapidly getting to the point where I want to punch out anyone who uses the term "disproportionate" in reference to Israeli responses to Arab provocations.
I think that would be a disproportionate response.
/
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Shug Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:47:44pm |
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Shug Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:48:27pm |
re: #147 Jetpilot1101
...or like all our tax dollars for the next 50 or 60 years. But hey, CITI can still sponsor the Rose Bowl WTF?!?
the taxpayers are getting a hose from the rose
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:48:40pm |
re: #126 Jetpilot1101
I thought his legacy was pretty much set; he sent the economy underwater that's why they named a submarine after him instead of an aircraft carrier.
Nice zinger there...
;-P
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:48:41pm |
re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
And I agree with your statement, BTW
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:49:18pm |
re: #147 Jetpilot1101
...or like all our tax dollars for the next 50 or 60 years. But hey, CITI can still sponsor the Rose Bowl WTF?!?
oh brother...no shitski
tax revolt...
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:49:19pm |
re: #144 solomonpanting
I question the use of this phrase. I know it must be terrifying for the Palis to endure incoming fire from Israeli attacks, but this phase seems to connote some type of moral equivalence.
I was troubled by that sentence, too.
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:49:45pm |
Mideat peace will never occur until and unless these terror organizations are DESTROYED to the last individual.
It's NEVER been about statehood, or self governance, they merely provide the cover for the true agenda, the elimination of Israel and it's people. Had Israel taken those steps at tne onset , what's inevitably coming could have been accomplished with much less trauma. I submit the israelis don't yet have the political will to do what's necessary.
Yet.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:49:50pm |
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:51:33pm |
re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
Spot on - top post!
And lets not forget about the immense contributions in all areas of scientific and technical endeavour with which Israel has blessed the world, in spite of the constant murderous attacks.
Which new scientific discoveries have come from the Ummah during that time?
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:51:59pm |
re: #156 MandyManners
I was troubled by that sentence, too.
they wont have to experience rolling artillery...if they even knew what it does...and some people would have it that way
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Shug Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:52:19pm |
re: #158 irongrampa
Mideat peace will never occur until and unless these terror organizations are DESTROYED to the last individual.
It's NEVER been about statehood, or self governance, they merely provide the cover for the true agenda, the elimination of Israel and it's people. Had Israel taken those steps at tne onset , what's inevitably coming could have been accomplished with much less trauma. I submit the israelis don't yet have the political will to do what's necessary.
Yet.
It's like having fire ant mounds in your back yard.
Even one is dangerous
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:53:13pm |
re: #140 albusteve
the simple fact that he still believes in some phony peace process proves his cred is gone...like my last paycheck, gone gone away...
True, but I'm still enjoying not listening to Carter bloviating about all of this...
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:53:43pm |
re: #154 yitzy
Yeah, those shells and rockets (the ones that The One knew) only rained down hearts, butterflies, and rainbows.
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buzzdroid Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:54:03pm |
re: #3 Killgore Trout
The withdrawal from Gaza didn't go as planned.
entirely AS planned.
Ariel Sharon wanted to show the world what bunch of Nazi scum the Gazans were, without all the "IDF shooting some rock thrower" MSM sob stories.
Job done, as far as i can see.
Lets be honest with ourselves - before the Gaza withdrawal, there are many , including myself, who were somewhat sympathetic to the Palestinian cause - who wouldnt be? a cause of nationalism and wanting your own country is something that resonates with a lot of folks.
of course it was all propaganda bollocks, but we didnt know.
Sharon's MASTERSTROKE was the withdrawal from Gaza. that made the likes of me wake the fuck up and see how taken in i was with the Pallywood propaganda... why?
Because the IDF was not in the equation anymore.
And what did the Gazans do? Why, elect hardcore S.S. wannabees Hamas.
Wake up call - yeah. you betcha. Sorry bout being so bloody wrong about this war during my younger years. (gee - thanks MSM for that... )
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:55:23pm |
re: #115 EmmmieG
Okay, totally off topic. I can't believe I have a headache today. This is supposed to be one of the benefits of being LDS. No hangovers.
I am suffering from a combination of chocolate hangover (there is such a thing, take my word for it), rainy weather, and not enough sleep.
On the bright side, we just got in a new couch, which means a really big cardboard box for the boys. I won't hear from them for hours. Cool.
Really big cardboard boxes are very, very kewl!
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:56:03pm |
re: #165 buzzdroid
entirely AS planned.
Ariel Sharon wanted to show the world what bunch of Nazi scum the Gazans were, without all the "IDF shooting some rock thrower" MSM sob stories.
Job done, as far as i can see.
Lets be honest with ourselves - before the Gaza withdrawal, there are many , including myself, who were somewhat sympathetic to the Palestinian cause - who wouldnt be? a cause of nationalism and wanting your own country is something that resonates with a lot of folks.
of course it was all propaganda bollocks, but we didnt know.
Sharon's MASTERSTROKE was the withdrawal from Gaza. that made the likes of me wake the fuck up and see how taken in i was with the Pallywood propaganda... why?
Because the IDF was not in the equation anymore.
And what did the Gazans do? Why, elect hardcore S.S. wannabees Hamas.Wake up call - yeah. you betcha. Sorry bout being so bloody wrong about this war during my younger years. (gee - thanks MSM for that... )
I was never sympathetic to the Palestinian's cause...there is no cause, there are no Palestinians...speak for yourself amigo
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:56:28pm |
re: #165 buzzdroid
It's nice to hear that you saw the light. Maybe many more will follow the path you chose and Ham-ass and the rest of the Paleostinians will begin to lose the support they currently enjoy. Maybe it will force them to look in the mirror and consider electing a party that wants more then a bunch of dead Jews as it's legacy.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:57:42pm |
re: #147 Jetpilot1101
...or like all our tax dollars for the next 50 or 60 years. But hey, CITI can still sponsor the Rose Bowl WTF?!?
You want your hide really chapped?
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:57:48pm |
re: #167 ggt
Really big cardboard boxes are very, very kewl!
All of us dreamed of having a cardboard box.
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buzzdroid Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:58:05pm |
re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
I am rapidly getting to the point where I want to punch out anyone who uses the term "disproportionate" in reference to Israeli responses to Arab provocations.
The Arabs have been murdering Jews in Israel every year at least from the start of the First Aliyah in the 1880s.
Up to the end of Ottoman rule nothing was done to stop Arabs from marauding against Jews who had legitimately purchased land and were attempting to farm it or build on it. During the British Mandate Arab rioters and assassins killed more. And there has never been a year since Israel's independence when there were not Arabs who murdered Jews for the crime of being Jews in the Land of Israel.
Through all this, Israel has continually shown a restraint that I would call "heroic"--were it not that this restraint merely served to encourage the next round of murder. It has never been given credit, praise, or assistance for this restraint from the West--and it has been read as weakness by Israel's enemies. Had Israel truly committed even one of the massacres falsely attributed to it--Deir Yassin, Sabra/Shatila, Jenin, etc.--it would have garnered far more respect from those sworn to its destruction.
Sixty years of apology should stop right now.
Thing is - they cant.
The Torah forbids it.
its the same trap that the Jews found themselves in , in Nazi Germany... they are fundementally a DEEPLY humane bunch of folks. and that humanity is deeply intertwined with their religion.
its a tough call.. almost equivalent to asking Quakers to take up rifles against a marauding band of Mongol warriors...
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:58:24pm |
re: #115 EmmmieG
Okay, totally off topic. I can't believe I have a headache today. This is supposed to be one of the benefits of being LDS. No hangovers.
I am suffering from a combination of chocolate hangover (there is such a thing, take my word for it), rainy weather, and not enough sleep.
On the bright side, we just got in a new couch, which means a really big cardboard box for the boys. I won't hear from them for hours. Cool.
Ain't it funny that young kids (usually boys) rather play with the boxes stuff comes in rather than the stuff that was in the box? To be young, carefree, and imaginative like that again *sigh*...
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:58:31pm |
re: #170 buzzsawmonkey
Well, I did learn from some Arab scientists, via a MEMRI video posted here a year or so ago, that there is no magnetic field in Mecca.
I learned that the earth was flat and is the center of the universe and I'm not kidding.
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buzzdroid Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:58:43pm |
re: #168 albusteve
I was never sympathetic to the Palestinian's cause...there is no cause, there are no Palestinians...speak for yourself amigo
i come from Ireland. so you can only imagine the propaganda there...
IRA= PLO and all that stuff...
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:58:47pm |
re: #166 buzzsawmonkey
What frustrates me is the wilful blindness of the REST of the planet in the matter. Given past history, HOW could anyone be deceived? Once, maybe, but time after time? What kind of moral compass must those "deceived " possess, I wonder? Any at all?
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Desert Dog Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:58:47pm |
re: #170 buzzsawmonkey
Well, I did learn from some Arab scientists, via a MEMRI video posted here a year or so ago, that there is no magnetic field in Mecca.
they had to do something about the magnetism, with so many worshipers having metal plates in their heads after the lobotomy operations walking around.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:58:53pm |
Here's a nice graphic to go with the two charts above.
It shows all the attempts by Palis to kill Jews before the barrier, and after.
Bottom line? When Israel fights back, less Israelis die.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:59:17pm |
re: #170 buzzsawmonkey
Well, I did learn from some Arab scientists, via a MEMRI video posted here a year or so ago, that there is no magnetic field in Mecca.
Yeah - I seem to remember that, vaguely, as well.
Did they get the Physics Nobel Prize for it?
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 1, 2009 12:59:31pm |
re: #173 debutaunt
All of us dreamed of having a cardboard box.
We should sell them as toys. But what would they come packaged in?
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ryannon Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:00:27pm |
re: #18 Racer X
Hard to believe huh. Everyone thought for sure that if Israel just gave the palestinians what they wanted - their own territory to run as they see fit - that everyone would be happy.
What went wrong?
/ rhetorical
Damned if I know.
"The Hamas charter still calls for the complete destruction of the state of Israel and the Jewish people. There is no amount of land that Israel could give up that Hamas would be satisfied with. The press likes to report the conflict as a tit-for-tat issue, with Palestinians responding in the only way they know how against the Israeli siege and settlements. But that is simply propaganda."
/
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:00:48pm |
re: #172 Killian Bundy
You want your hide really chapped?
HOLY CRAP! Thanks for posting that article. That is un f-ing believable.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:01:34pm |
re: #177 buzzdroid
i come from Ireland. so you can only imagine the propaganda there...
IRA= PLO and all that stuff...
I was too hasty...of course there are sympathizers and some have changed their minds...you're right about that
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:01:52pm |
re: #183 Silhouette
We should sell them as toys. But what would they come packaged in?
I saw a funny video of a cat stuck in a cardboard container.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:02:03pm |
re: #85 Nevergiveup
How many mortars or rockets did Canada fire into the USA in 07 or Belgium into France?
Jennifer Granholm devastated Michigan.
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:02:13pm |
re: #184 Iron Fist
Maybe the next negotiating sesson should include the caveat "you asswipes start the rocket bullshit again, we'll let the Israelis loose, and let them FINISH it".
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:02:14pm |
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:02:33pm |
re: #190 Alouette
Jennifer Granholm devastated Michigan.
You can chalk that up to a "work accident".
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:02:43pm |
re: #175 talon_262
Ain't it funny that young kids (usually boys) rather play with the boxes stuff comes in rather than the stuff that was in the box? To be young, carefree, and imaginative like that again *sigh*...
I'm a
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:02:46pm |
re: #171 Iron Fist
It doesn't seem to me that the average Hamastinian really feels thretened by Israel's bombing campaign. After all, they can expect the Israelies to die rather than miss a "legitimate" target and accidently hit "civillians". Unless they are living in a weapons bunker (something that is entirely possible), the Hamastinians don't have any reason to be afraid of the IAF raids.
Pity, that.
But don't discount the mobility of pick-up truck launchings, which can put anyone close enough to the border in harm's way. This tells me I'd want to be as far from the border as possible.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:02:56pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:03:13pm |
re: #190 Alouette
So, the strategy here is a well-spoken, physically attractive, yet completely inept government leader.
City planners are hired, not elected. That strategy could wreak devastation that would take years to undo.
Kind of like...Oregon.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:03:13pm |
re: #165 buzzdroid
Sharon's MASTERSTROKE was the withdrawal from Gaza. that made the likes of me wake the fuck up and see how taken in i was with the Pallywood propaganda... why?
Sharon's MASTERSTROKE is what has made him a vegetable for the past six years.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:03:33pm |
re: #180 Silhouette
Here's a nice graphic to go with the two charts above.
It shows all the attempts by Palis to kill Jews before the barrier, and after.
Bottom line? When Israel fights back, less Israelis die.
Great link.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:03:51pm |
re: #180 Silhouette
It is a lovely graphic!
Pity, that so many people, not just moonbats, prefer it when Israel does not defend itself ...
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:03:52pm |
re: #174 buzzdroid
Thing is - they cant.
The Torah forbids it.
its the same trap that the Jews found themselves in , in Nazi Germany... they are fundementally a DEEPLY humane bunch of folks. and that humanity is deeply intertwined with their religion.
its a tough call.. almost equivalent to asking Quakers to take up rifles against a marauding band of Mongol warriors...
That is part of the reason that I have never been able to understand this intense hatred of the Jews. I was brought up Catholic, but lived in a town with a large Jewish community. I am now married to a Jewish woman. Almost all of the Jewish people I have known have been very kind and generous.
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:04:08pm |
al-Jiz poll:
Do you think Israel's air strikes on the Gaza Strip are justified?
As noted by Aussie Dave at Israellycool:
Airborne bacon alert.
Check the results.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:04:26pm |
re: #184 Iron Fist
I've been calling for Israel to exterminate Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, etc. for years now. I don't think it is going to happen. I'd love to be proven wrong.
I think Hamas is goin down this time...and when they do Fatah will become compliant...the hizis are chasing their tails....
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buzzdroid Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:04:38pm |
re: #187 albusteve
I was too hasty...of course there are sympathizers and some have changed their minds...you're right about that
your grand mate. no worries. was just doing a train-of-thought post on how LIED to i was .. almost like being in some communist country and then waking up and realising that the Stasi were really a bunch of scum.
a lot of us lizards have been on a similar journey of sorts. and we've ended up here - being pro-Israel.
and i am glad i have grown up and developed. unlike the moonbats , who seem to be trapped in the shells of 18 year old teenager opinion.
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Racer X Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:05:13pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:05:24pm |
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:06:01pm |
re: #211 albusteve
bwahahaha!....scortched earth...
I wonder how Dearbornistan is fairing these days?
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Ben Hur Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:06:31pm |
Does this include the rockets/mortars of the last 6 days?
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Dianna Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:06:43pm |
re: #166 buzzsawmonkey
I'll tell you what I think - they see it, and, because they honestly don't think anyone could believe the vile nonsense being spouted - dismiss it as mere rhetoric.
It takes a very expensive education and a life full of padded corners to make people that unwilling to see what's before their eyes.
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NelsFree Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:06:57pm |
re: #176 Jetpilot1101
Some leading Clerics in Saudi Arabia issued a Fatwa in 1974 (right after the Apollo Moon Landings) that the Earth was, in fact, flat. I wish I could get my hands on a copy...
...anyone?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:07:01pm |
re: #196 ggt
I'm a
i don't know what happened with that post.
I think I typed:
I'm a girl and my friends and I LOVED really big cardboard boxes. Although, we usually made them into houses, cut out windows and decorated them and all.
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Dianna Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:07:20pm |
re: #168 albusteve
I was never sympathetic to the Palestinian's cause...there is no cause, there are no Palestinians...speak for yourself amigo
He did.
Congratulations on never having been mistaken.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:07:22pm |
OT...Professional hockey outside...good.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:07:31pm |
re: #214 Dianna
It takes a very expensive education and a life full of padded corners to make people that unwilling to see what's before their eyes.
Great line.
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buzzdroid Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:07:51pm |
re: #205 Ford_Prefect
That is part of the reason that I have never been able to understand this intense hatred of the Jews. I was brought up Catholic, but lived in a town with a large Jewish community. I am now married to a Jewish woman. Almost all of the Jewish people I have known have been very kind and generous.
yeah i know - worked with a few in London, and they are , as we Irish like to say , "great craic"..
awesome bunch of folks, and always wanting to help out, have drinks, good meals, enjoy themselves, and do well in life for themselves and their kids.
compare and contrast to the Islamonutters. came across a few of them during my working life in London and it wasnt pleasant to say the least.
arrogant fuckers full of ego, and looked down on me as a "kaffir".
i seen both sides in London personally. and i know which side i support.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:08:01pm |
re: #198 debutaunt
It cushions AND it pops!
The best stress reliever:
put bubble wrap on the floor and with hard soled shoes, walk and stomp on it.
Great fun.
I also like hurling breakable things into dumpsters.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:08:11pm |
re: #188 buzzsawmonkey
Not as I recall. Give it a few years; the way Scandinavia is being overwhelmed by Muslims, the Nobel Prize Committee will be ready to give an award for something like that very, very soon.
Yep - and the prize money being stocked up by generous donations from the Magic Kingdom, who of course would never ever hint to whom they'd like the prize be given ...
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akak Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:08:15pm |
airborne bacon alert! lol
thick slice I hope!
Times of India reports that authorities received three e-mail threats from the Deccan Mujahideen outfit to attack the celebration of Pravasi Bharatiya Diwas (Indian Diaspora Day) scheduled to be held in Chennai from January 7-9, 2009. The emails were traced to Saudi Arabia. The threats against the celebration were sent using an e-mail identity, deccan_mujahideen@yahoo.com. The Pravasi Bharatiya Diwas is to be attended by 1500 delegates, including President of India Pratibha Patil, Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh, several Union Ministers and State Chief Ministers besides representatives from various countries.
Mumbai the sequel, send American aid money quick.
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hepcat Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:08:16pm |
Dig this, an al Jazeera magazine poll:
Do you think Israel’s air strikes on the Gaza Strip are justified?
So far and 80%+ approval rate.
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:08:46pm |
re: #214 Dianna
I'll tell you what I think - they see it, and, because they honestly don't think anyone could believe the vile nonsense being spouted - dismiss it as mere rhetoric.
It takes a very expensive education and a life full of padded corners to make people that unwilling to see what's before their eyes.
That is very true. So many people in this country take the liberties and the relative security here for granted. If they would just open their eyes and see what is going on in the world, they might start to appreciate what we have.
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NelsFree Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:08:53pm |
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Dianna Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:08:58pm |
re: #177 buzzdroid
Ooooh. You poor thing!
Many of my ancestors were Irish. I was expected to sympathize with the IRA.
I didn't.
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:09:12pm |
re: #215 NelsFree
Some leading Clerics in Saudi Arabia issued a Fatwa in 1974 (right after the Apollo Moon Landings) that the Earth was, in fact, flat. I wish I could get my hands on a copy...
...anyone?
I think you can find it at [Link: www.fatwas.com...] or if that doesn't work try [Link: www.completeandtotalmuslimlunacy.com...]
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:09:58pm |
re: #212 Jetpilot1101
I wonder how Dearbornistan is fairing these days?
I laughed my ass off...I dunno...last time I was up there I was truly freaked out..until you actuall see Detroit and drive a bit around the Dearborn area one has no clue...it is simply unbelievable...it's just hard to fathom
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buzzdroid Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:10:18pm |
oops - sorry charles.
probably stepped over the line with generalised opinion there.
but it is based on personal opinion. but it probably went over the mark. delete if need be.
i should stick to the geopolitics rather than personal stuff.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:10:24pm |
re: #206 Taqiyyotomist
al-Jiz poll:
Do you think Israel's air strikes on the Gaza Strip are justified?As noted by Aussie Dave at Israellycool:
Check the results.
Wow.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:10:36pm |
re: #205 Ford_Prefect
That is part of the reason that I have never been able to understand this intense hatred of the Jews. I was brought up Catholic, but lived in a town with a large Jewish community. I am now married to a Jewish woman. Almost all of the Jewish people I have known have been very kind and generous.
me too ford. I wasn't raised with jew-hatred. or any hatred, really.
What I also don't get is the hatred of RC. I have some Lutheran friends who never miss an opportunity to diss the RC church. I just ignore them because they weren't raised Catholic. They can't really understand. Only those raised RC can diss the Church and know what they are talking about. :0
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Ben Hur Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:10:47pm |
re: #225 hepcat
Dig this, an al Jazeera magazine poll:
Do you think Israel’s air strikes on the Gaza Strip are justified?
So far and 80%+ approval rate.
Click on the "Conspiracy Theories" link.
It's a hoot.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:10:51pm |
re: #174 buzzdroid
Thing is - they cant.
The Torah forbids it.
its the same trap that the Jews found themselves in , in Nazi Germany... they are fundementally a DEEPLY humane bunch of folks. and that humanity is deeply intertwined with their religion.
its a tough call.. almost equivalent to asking Quakers to take up rifles against a marauding band of Mongol warriors...
Where in the Torah are Jews forbidden from destroying their enemies? Can you cite chapter and verse please?
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solomonpanting Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:11:03pm |
Well. I've been invited to a New Year's Day party.
Happy New Years everyone and death to all mortar f**kers.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:11:18pm |
re: #217 Dianna
He did.
Congratulations on never having been mistaken.
my point of view was mistaken and I said so....
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:12:21pm |
OT
For those of you that might be wondering, I did manage to get my daughter to sleep. After about 30 minutes, however, she woke up, saw it was me holding her, and cried for her mother. How's that for gratitude?
I can't really complain, though. My wife was watching some chick flick on the Lifetime channel, so I was glad to be able to get away from that.
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:12:21pm |
re: #231 albusteve
I laughed my ass off...I dunno...last time I was up there I was truly freaked out..until you actuall see Detroit and drive a bit around the Dearborn area one has no clue...it is simply unbelievable...it's just hard to fathom
I grew up in Ann Arbor, went to school in Redford. Didn't get to Dearborn much but even back in the 80's there were many derogatory names given to the city IRT the residents living there. I left MI in 94 and never looked back. Heard from a few of my friends who are still there that people are packing up and leaving in droves.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:12:25pm |
re: #222 ggt
The best stress reliever:
put bubble wrap on the floor and with hard soled shoes, walk and stomp on it.
Great fun.
I also like hurling breakable things into dumpsters.
Target practice with my DE.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:12:54pm |
re: #209 buzzdroid
It gets to the question of what do we want the people who are wrong to do? Me, I'd like them to change their mind.
But I have seen people who were wrong about, for example, race in the 1950s or '60s still held to be guilty today for things they said and believed decades ago. Ignoring that they openly state now that they believe the opposite.
Which brings up the question to those condemning them, "What did you want them to do? Change their mind or disappear?" Because they are not allowing that anyone can ever change their mind. If they won't allow that that is possible, what the HELL are they doing with all those "raise awareness" and "education" projects in the first place?
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twincitiesgirl Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:13:03pm |
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buzzdroid Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:13:10pm |
re: #225 hepcat
Dig this, an al Jazeera magazine poll:
Do you think Israel’s air strikes on the Gaza Strip are justified?
So far and 80%+ approval rate.
wow..
Hamas are f**ked...
iran thought it could have an Iran-on-the-med - Arabs dont like that one bit...
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Racer X Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:13:22pm |
re: #225 hepcat
Dig this, an al Jazeera magazine poll:
Do you think Israel’s air strikes on the Gaza Strip are justified?
So far and 80%+ approval rate.
Dropping fast. Down to 78% now. Each time I vote (yes), er, refresh, the yes % is lower.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:13:46pm |
re: #240 Ford_Prefect
OT
For those of you that might be wondering, I did manage to get my daughter to sleep. After about 30 minutes, however, she woke up, saw it was me holding her, and cried for her mother. How's that for gratitude?
I can't really complain, though. My wife was watching some chick flick on the Lifetime channel, so I was glad to be able to get away from that.
Did you sleep too?
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:14:18pm |
re: #160 yma o hyd
Spot on - top post!
And lets not forget about the immense contributions in all areas of scientific and technical endeavour with which Israel has blessed the world, in spite of the constant murderous attacks.
Which new scientific discoveries have come from the Ummah during that time?
I seem to remember Ahmadinnerjacket spouting off about Iran having the cure for HIV...ah yeah, hang the homosexuals in the public square....
*spit*
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Dianna Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:14:22pm |
re: #239 albusteve
Sorry - I ended up way behind, and missed a large section of discussion.
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buzzdroid Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:14:40pm |
re: #237 Alouette
Where in the Torah are Jews forbidden from destroying their enemies? Can you cite chapter and verse please?
i'm not jewish so i cant. its just what i've read over the years, in terms of collective knowledge and finding out about it.
if you can correct me , then i'm all ears. maybe i have it completely wrong.
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:14:47pm |
re: #247 Racer X
Dropping fast. Down to 78% now. Each time I vote (yes), er, refresh, the yes % is lower.
Maybe the ronpauluans are pimping that online poll as well.
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Quilly Mammoth Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:14:59pm |
Another Carter Center moron speaks.
The key phrase in this mind numbing interview is"They are looking for PE Obama to come in and be an honest broker". In other words to stab Israel in the back.
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:15:13pm |
re: #247 Racer X
Dropping fast. Down to 78% now. Each time I vote (yes), er, refresh, the yes % is lower.
Damned Paulbots spamming the poll...
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Sunlight Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:15:23pm |
AussieDave put up an airborne bacon alert on his 10:18pm update on his liveblogging:
Israellycool New Years' Day Liveblogging from Israel
Scroll down... he put up a million updates today!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:15:31pm |
re: #241 Jetpilot1101
I grew up in Ann Arbor, went to school in Redford. Didn't get to Dearborn much but even back in the 80's there were many derogatory names given to the city IRT the residents living there. I left MI in 94 and never looked back. Heard from a few of my friends who are still there that people are packing up and leaving in droves.
I grew-up on the East Side, the only thing I remember about Dearborn was school trips there. Dad got a job opportunity and we left after 9th grade.
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Cygnus Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:15:32pm |
re: #173 debutaunt
All of us dreamed of having a cardboard box.
Cardboard box + steep grassy hill = tons of fun!
We used to do that as kids. It's great until you hit a patch of dirt, then you do a dusty face plant. Ouch.
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opnion Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:15:42pm |
re: #236 Iron Fist
Yeah, the reason the Mohammedans are terrorists is because terrorism works. Stop that and terrorism will die out pretty quickly.
Exactly. When terrorism gets a negative return on investment, it is not worth it. Overwhelming force in retaliation is a good start.
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:15:58pm |
re: #234 ggt
I am with you there. I haven't actually been in a church except for weddings and funerals in about 24 years. At my wedding one of my aunts came up to my wife and I and suggested that we attend services at the Universalist church that she attends. She said they accept everyone, whatever their beliefs. My thought was "What's the point then?"
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:16:11pm |
re: #241 Jetpilot1101
I grew up in Ann Arbor, went to school in Redford. Didn't get to Dearborn much but even back in the 80's there were many derogatory names given to the city IRT the residents living there. I left MI in 94 and never looked back. Heard from a few of my friends who are still there that people are packing up and leaving in droves.
I never actually knew anyone from A2!...hung out over there alot...I'm from Kalamazoo and still like it...my son went to school there and aside from politics A2 is a hell of a town....other than that Mich is dying...my daughter is over in GR and doing well but considering moving west...very sad indeed
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Quilly Mammoth Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:16:31pm |
re: #258 Cygnus
Cardboard box + steep grassy hill = tons of fun!
We used to do that as kids. It's great until you hit a patch of dirt, then you do a dusty face plant. Ouch.
Mom never let us use our house like that.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:16:33pm |
re: #235 Ben Hur
Click on the "Conspiracy Theories" link.
It's a hoot.
Had a look. One word:
Omigawd!
ROFLMAO!
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Racer X Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:17:26pm |
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:17:55pm |
re: #258 Cygnus
Might want to try sliding down a snowy hill in a truck inner tube sometime. Exhilarating and scary simultaneously.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:18:30pm |
re: #251 Dianna
Sorry - I ended up way behind, and missed a large section of discussion.
all's well...gotta call em out!
namaste...
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:18:40pm |
re: #261 albusteve
I never actually knew anyone from A2!...hung out over there alot...I'm from Kalamazoo and still like it...my son went to school there and aside from politics A2 is a hell of a town....other than that Mich is dying...my daughter is over in GR and doing well but considering moving west...very sad indeed
Yeah A2 is a moonbat nest that houses the all too common professor moonbatis maximus. I loved the town and am still a big UM fan but I'l never go back to MI unless they do something about the morons they elected there.
Isn't Granholm going to be advising Obama on economic policy?
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Dianna Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:18:41pm |
re: #260 Ford_Prefect
I am with you there. I haven't actually been in a church except for weddings and funerals in about 24 years. At my wedding one of my aunts came up to my wife and I and suggested that we attend services at the Universalist church that she attends. She said they accept everyone, whatever their beliefs. My thought was "What's the point then?"
It's time to quote my favorite comment on the Unitarians:
The only time you will hear the words "Jesus Christ" uttered in a Unitarian Church is when the janitor falls down the stairs.
I said that a couple years ago. It fits.
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LarryG Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:19:34pm |
EXCELLENT graph! The nice things about pictures is that they actually do speak volumes.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:19:40pm |
re: #245 twincitiesgirl
Great find!
Please post in Linkies for all to see!
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Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:19:49pm |
re: #248 ggt
Did you sleep too?
Unfortunately. no.
I just looked over my shoulder and my daughter was standing there looking at me with that half asleep-hair mussed up-glazed over eyes kinda look. I have to go and give her a hug.
Later Lizards!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:20:21pm |
re: #260 Ford_Prefect
I am with you there. I haven't actually been in a church except for weddings and funerals in about 24 years. At my wedding one of my aunts came up to my wife and I and suggested that we attend services at the Universalist church that she attends. She said they accept everyone, whatever their beliefs. My thought was "What's the point then?"
Actually, IIRC, anyone can attend a RC church, but not everyone can receive communion. I don't go either much either. I attened catholic school, I did my time ;0
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engineboss Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:21:09pm |
re: #218 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Hi I need some advice. Yesterday I was talking to the wife while making some lunch. While slicing some really good Cheddar I asked her if she had ever seen one of those cheese slicers with the roller and the wire. She tells me she sliced off part of her finger with one of those. I told her that I've hurt myself a lot of ways but never cutting cheese...I shit my pants once though. Now she won't talk to me. Advice?
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:21:18pm |
re: #264 Racer X
Nah. I think their target audience just figured out how to click the correct button.
I think the only buttons they know are the ones on their splodey-dope vests.
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:21:27pm |
re: #265 irongrampa
Might want to try sliding down a snowy hill in a truck inner tube sometime. Exhilarating and scary simultaneously.
Especially since you have NO steering capability.
It's a blast if you can wedge yourself into the tube prone and control the steering with your toes as rudders!
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opnion Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:21:37pm |
re: #245 twincitiesgirl
Good news they are being sued over this--
Send a portion of profits to Islamic Charities? Why not cut out the middle man & just send weapons directly to Hamas & Al Queda?
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:21:59pm |
Well it's about time for the ROSE BOWL (sponsored by CITI) so I'll sign off. It should be called the "HOSE the taxpayers BOWL" but what do I know. Have a great rest of the day Lizards!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:22:01pm |
re: #274 engineboss
Hi I need some advice. Yesterday I was talking to the wife while making some lunch. While slicing some really good Cheddar I asked her if she had ever seen one of those cheese slicers with the roller and the wire. She tells me she sliced off part of her finger with one of those. I told her that I've hurt myself a lot of ways but never cutting cheese...I shit my pants once though. Now she won't talk to me. Advice?
diamonds.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:22:32pm |
re: #274 engineboss
At least two dozen. Red. Check Costco or Sam's Club's floral section.
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Cygnus Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:22:33pm |
re: #265 irongrampa
Might want to try sliding down a snowy hill in a truck inner tube sometime. Exhilarating and scary simultaneously.
We also used to sled/ski/inner tube down the street in front of our house. Ah, the memories.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:22:34pm |
re: #267 Jetpilot1101
Yeah A2 is a moonbat nest that houses the all too common professor moonbatis maximus. I loved the town and am still a big UM fan but I'l never go back to MI unless they do something about the morons they elected there.
Isn't Granholm going to be advising Obama on economic policy?
I had hard times up there and had to flee...when I fly up I'm depressed before I even leave...that's how much I hate it...I worry about my daughter and cant stand the climate...
I heard that and nearly shit...BO is a fool....she is literally as stupid as they come and emerging nationally...good lord
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opnion Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:24:34pm |
Penn State a 9.5 point undredog to USC. I say that PSU covers the spread & even wins the game.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:24:37pm |
re: #258 Cygnus
Cardboard box + steep grassy hill = tons of fun!
We used to do that as kids. It's great until you hit a patch of dirt, then you do a dusty face plant. Ouch.
The best grass stains you can ever get.
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:24:40pm |
re: #276 notutopia
Only did that once. Face first is NOT the hot setup (for me, anyway).
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:25:03pm |
re: #274 engineboss
I am strangely attracted to your question. Will answer with this; your wife is also full of shit. Unless she was trying to cut her finger on the cheese cutter, she didn't do it.
next.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:25:24pm |
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:25:43pm |
re: #256 Sunlight
AussieDave put up an airborne bacon alert on his 10:18pm update on his liveblogging:
Israellycool New Years' Day Liveblogging from IsraelScroll down... he put up a million updates today!
Your link: "Sorry, no posts matched your criteria."
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:25:47pm |
re: #243 buzzsawmonkey
I think you are right, alas. And I think that it is appalling that "education" has become a means for diminishing intelligence and for destroying moral clarity.
I come from that stratum of society which was brought up to believe that "education" was an unadulterated good, and that practically any social problem could be solved if you just threw more "education" at people and ramped up the "education" budgets.
Not only do I no longer believe that, I have come to the conclusion that what passes for "education" today is a wolf in sheep's clothing. It is propaganda designed to create a nation of people incapable of coherent or logical thought, responsive only to buzzwords in a manner as mindless as a frog leg twitching to an electrical current.
A thousand updings, were it possible.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:25:57pm |
re: #256 Sunlight
AussieDave put up an airborne bacon alert on his 10:18pm update on his liveblogging:
Israellycool New Years' Day Liveblogging from IsraelScroll down... he put up a million updates today!
His blog, that of The Muqata, and of course Carl in Jerusalem's blog are a daily must - as is, naturally, the one and only Elder of Ziyon!
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kcladderman Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:26:16pm |
re: #273 ggt
Actually, IIRC, anyone can attend a RC church, but not everyone can receive communion. I don't go either much either. I attened catholic school, I did my time ;0
I have been to services in several Churches was welcomed in all.
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:26:23pm |
re: #290 LeePro
Just go to the front page at israellycool.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:26:56pm |
re: #263 yma o hyd
Had a look. One word:
Omigawd!ROFLMAO!
I'm sure on the Arabic language Al-Jazeera site all those things are categorized under "Special Features" and not white washed as "conspiracies."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:27:07pm |
re: #284 opnion
really? brave man you are. I'm taking USC by at least 14. Good luck.
Someone had their random point-spread generator out this morning, picked Penn State, IIRC. You may have something there.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:27:10pm |
re: #268 Dianna
It's time to quote my favorite comment on the Unitarians:
The only time you will hear the words "Jesus Christ" uttered in a Unitarian Church is when the janitor falls down the stairs.
I said that a couple years ago. It fits.
ahhahhahahahahhahaaaa
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twincitiesgirl Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:28:31pm |
re: #270 LeePro
Great find!
Please post in Linkies for all to see!
I don't know how to do that--I saw this article last week so maybe some other lizard has already posted it.
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So? Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:28:43pm |
The graphs and charts should be sent to every TV News Network. Maybe they could be edjmakated and show it to their viewers on nightly newscasts.
Also, I think if someone could turn the PDF file into a Power Point presentation that could be shown in a video format and posted on the new IDF YouTube site. At least it would provide an important context for why Israel is bombing Gaza as shown in their posted videos.
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:28:53pm |
re: #287 irongrampa
Only did that once. Face first is NOT the hot setup (for me, anyway).
We actually did this is New Orleans on the East bank levees in the summertime.We'd lube grease the truck tubes and push off on the very top of the slope and slide into the Mississippi River. It was great fun...kept us busy and cool all summer!
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opnion Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:29:01pm |
re: #297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
really? brave man you are. I'm taking USC by at least 14. Good luck.
Someone had their random point-spread generator out this morning, picked Penn State, IIRC. You may have something there.
USC is really tough. How did Oregon Beat em? I just think that the PSU kids are going to go all out for Joe Pa.
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Sunlight Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:29:03pm |
re: #290 LeePro
Your link: "Sorry, no posts matched your criteria."
Hmmm. It was there a minute ago. I got the same message. Try this one. It is his front splash page:
[Link: www.israellycool.com...]
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:29:14pm |
re: #247 Racer X
Dropping fast. Down to 78% now. Each time I vote (yes), er, refresh, the yes % is lower.
If you are spamming the poll, which it seems you are suggesting, maybe they have code that slaps a minus 2 in there, each time someone with the same IP attempts to re-vote? Just thinking.
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Joo-LiZ Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:29:34pm |
Interesting point in the report linked to in this post (the pdf)...
This year has seen the highest rate of BOTH Mortars AND Rockets, DESPITE the 6 month "hudna".
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:29:56pm |
re: #301 notutopia
If you did that in today's world, you would need a special, expensive, "safe" slider, and a helmet, and adult supervision.
Sad. Sad, sad.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:30:10pm |
re: #274 engineboss
Hi I need some advice. Yesterday I was talking to the wife while making some lunch. While slicing some really good Cheddar I asked her if she had ever seen one of those cheese slicers with the roller and the wire. She tells me she sliced off part of her finger with one of those. I told her that I've hurt myself a lot of ways but never cutting cheese...I shit my pants once though. Now she won't talk to me. Advice?
"The wife" ?
| 308 |
newsjunkie_ky Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:30:12pm |
re: #258 Cygnus
Cardboard box + steep grassy hill = tons of fun!
We used to do that as kids. It's great until you hit a patch of dirt, then you do a dusty face plant. Ouch.
We destroyed the hill behind my cousin's house. Wore all the grass off of it and it became even more fun, sliding down mud.
Happy New Year you all
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Sunlight Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:30:44pm |
re: #292 yma o hyd
His blog, that of The Muqata, and of course Carl in Jerusalem's blog are a daily must - as is, naturally, the one and only Elder of Ziyon!
We need to keep putting them up. The should be a permanent link on the side, like those ads that jump up and down when you scroll and make me queasy...
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Ben Hur Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:31:15pm |
re: #307 debutaunt
"The wife" ?
It's much better in Hebrew.
My wife translates to "My woman."
My husband translates to "My owner."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:31:17pm |
re: #302 opnion
USC is really tough. How did Oregon Beat em? I just think that the PSU kids are going to go all out for Joe Pa.
I hope they win for Joe Pa. Wasn't saying who I wanted to win.
USC's women/weather/campus should all be NCAA violations by themselves.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:31:43pm |
re: #290 LeePro
Your link: "Sorry, no posts matched your criteria."
Worked for me ...
Try this one:
[Link: www.israellycool.com...]
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:31:53pm |
re: #301 notutopia
Stuff like that makes me remember all the neat things we did as kids, that didn't involve being inside, or TV. Today's kids look at you funny if you suggest something similar.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:32:32pm |
re: #260 Ford_Prefect
...one of my aunts came up to my wife and I...
...came up to... I.............................?
Aaarrrgggggghghhhhhh!
Fingernail scrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeching on the blackboard ! ! !
/end rant
~sorry
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Cygnus Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:33:55pm |
re: #268 Dianna
It's time to quote my favorite comment on the Unitarians:
The only time you will hear the words "Jesus Christ" uttered in a Unitarian Church is when the janitor falls down the stairs.
I said that a couple years ago. It fits.
For some strange reason, your great joke reminds me of this:
THEOLOGY OF TOYS
Capitalism - He who dies with the most toys, wins.
Hare Krishna - He who plays with the most toys, wins.
Catholicism - He who denies himself the most toys, wins.
Anglican - They were our toys first.
Greek Orthodox - No, they were OURS first.
Atheism - There is no toy maker.
Polytheism - There are many toy makers.
Evolutionism - The toys made themselves.
Church of Christ, Scientist - We are the toys.
Communism - No matter how hard you work, everyone gets the same number of toys.
Amish - Toys with batteries are surely a sin.
Taoism - The doll is as important as the dump truck.
Mormonism - Every boy can have as many toys as he wants.
Hedonism - To heck with the rule book! Let's play!
Hinduism - He who plays with bags of plastic farm animals, loses.
7th Day Adventist - He who plays with his toys on Saturday, loses.
Baptist - Once played, always played.
Jehovah's Witness - He who 'places' the most toys door-to-door wins.
Existentialism - Toys are.
Confucianism - Once a toy is dipped in the water, it is no longer dry.
Non-denominationalism - We don't care where the toys came from, let's just play with them.
Agnosticism - It is not possible to know whether toys make a bit of
difference.
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:34:16pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:34:30pm |
re: #316 LeePro
Calm down. Colloquial. Ain't nothing wrong with it, no-how.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:34:57pm |
re: #310 Sunlight
We need to keep putting them up. The should be a permanent link on the side, like those ads that jump up and down when you scroll and make me queasy...
Yep, pehaps for the duration?
Otherwise, its no problem bookmarking them.
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gclaghorn Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:35:00pm |
re: #316 LeePro
...came up to... I.............................?
Aaarrrgggggghghhhhhh!
Fingernail scrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeching on the blackboard ! ! !/end rant
~sorry
I was always taught that if you separate the two ("my wife," "I") and say the same sentence with each one individually and it didn't sound right, then you are using the wrong case.
EXAMPLE:
Two people:
*my wife
*me
Test it with I, individually:
"Came up to my wife"
"Came up to I"
Doesn't sound right, so you would use "me."
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:35:08pm |
re: #316 LeePro
...came up to... I.............................?
Aaarrrgggggghghhhhhh!
Fingernail scrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeching on the blackboard ! ! !/end rant
~sorry
/ prepositional head's up
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:35:34pm |
re: #301 notutopia
We actually did this is New Orleans on the East bank levees in the summertime.We'd lube grease the truck tubes and push off on the very top of the slope and slide into the Mississippi River. It was great fun...kept us busy and cool all summer!
We used to slide down the New Orleans west bank levees (a block from the house) on flatened cardboard boxes. But swimming in the Mississippi? Are you crazy? It's the sewer for half the country.
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:36:01pm |
re: #306 EmmmieG
If you did that in today's world, you would need a special, expensive, "safe" slider, and a helmet, and adult supervision.
Sad. Sad, sad.
I know it is sad. We had such fun back then..this was before the barbwired encasement fences were erected to keep people off the levees.
Another fun thing we used to do, on weekends, is ride down the post office concrete mail truck shute in those huge wheeled canvas bins. The pitch on the shute was steep enough to carry you way into the parking lot! Such simple fun.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:36:12pm |
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gclaghorn Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:36:17pm |
re: #322 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Calm down. Colloquial. Ain't nothing wrong with it, no-how.
Them thar prepositions ain't no big issue.
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:36:25pm |
re: #320 buzzsawmonkey
Exactly. We had no TV, either, didn't ruin my brother or me (too much).
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:36:42pm |
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:37:15pm |
re: #295 Taqiyyotomist
Just go to the front page at israellycool.
Know dat! [duh]
Just giving Sunlight info...
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:37:15pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:37:47pm |
re: #329 gclaghorn
Them thar prepositions ain't no big issue.
I text my son, "Where you at?"
He replies (via text) "Behind the preposition."
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:37:56pm |
re: #315 irongrampa
Stuff like that makes me remember all the neat things we did as kids, that didn't involve being inside, or TV. Today's kids look at you funny if you suggest something similar.
Oh, I know! See my 327!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:38:32pm |
re: #321 Taqiyyotomist
Better than "the old lady", I suppose...
I have found, "My Mortal Enemy" to be sufficient.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:38:53pm |
re: #330 irongrampa
Exactly. We had no TV, either, didn't ruin my brother or me (too much).
I bet you walked uphill both ways to school.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:39:50pm |
re: #339 Iron Fist
(pssst.... let me know when it is safe to come back out)
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:40:03pm |
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:40:10pm |
re: #333 debutaunt
"the old lady" and "the old man", or "my old man"...these are actually colloquialisms in my part of MI. Men and women both use them, to denote spouses or even girlfriend/boyfriend, and it's actually not considered insulting, but endearing.
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SWPaul Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:41:03pm |
That's a great chart. Someone really needs to send that to every newspaper around the world. I've noticed most newspapers are putting forth vile tirades against Israel. Bordering on anti-Semitism; really scary stuff. Here's the LA Times keeping up with their tradition of being really big idiots:
Israel can't bomb its way to peace
The title itself explains the story basically. Apparently, though, Hamas can bomb its way to peace. None of these idiots have ever lived in a location where everyday rockets and mortars rain down on cities and towns, and you know they aren't going to stop because the guys doing it want your whole race to die.
As always, my favorite quote proving the writer is, for lack of a better insult, a dumbass.
Destruction of Hamas' infrastructure may temporarily slow Hamas rocket attacks, but sooner or later they'll resume.
Wait, destroying their rockets will help to cease the fire of rockets into my country?! If only for awhile?! Fire away IDF!
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Joo-LiZ Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:41:09pm |
re: #314 Iron Fist
To Mohammedans, "cease fire" means you stop shooting at them. They, of course, consider it to mean "free fire zone" when it comes to them shooting at you.
Well of course... but the launches being fired throughout that ceasefire still don't quite come close to what it was just before, and the level that it reached in the last couple of weeks.
My point was that it is just a further emphasis of just how bad the rocket/mortar problem has become, on a daily basis. (despite 6 months of reduced fire)
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kcladderman Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:42:09pm |
re: #315 irongrampa
Stuff like that makes me remember all the neat things we did as kids, that didn't involve being inside, or TV. Today's kids look at you funny if you suggest something similar.
Left the house in the morning and did not come back inside except to eat. We did this everyday it was not raining or too cold. Kept ourselves entertained with just our minds and whatever we might stumble upon.
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:42:25pm |
Destruction of Hamas' infrastructure may temporarily slow Hamas rocket attacks, but sooner or later they'll resume.
Well, I guess I'll skip that shower. The stank is bound to return anyway.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:42:33pm |
re: #343 Taqiyyotomist
"the old lady" and "the old man", or "my old man"...these are actually colloquialisms in my part of MI. Men and women both use them, to denote spouses or even girlfriend/boyfriend, and it's actually not considered insulting, but endearing.
People are leaving Michigan - I wonder why.
/ *hiding in corner*
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:42:38pm |
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:43:00pm |
re: #348 Taqiyyotomist
Well, I guess I'll skip that shower. The stank is bound to return anyway.
I think I just inadvertently figured out hippies. Wow.
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:43:24pm |
If I were king for a day, the 'Rocket' graph in 2001 with 4 rockets launched would have been the only bar and 02-08 would be blank from then on. There would have to be a graph under that to superimpose the most disproportionate obliteration anyone had ever seen. The legend to the graph would say 1 rocket is equal to the deaths of 500,000 palis. Given there are estimated 1.5 million there in Gaza, the third qassam would have meant the end of the battle...the fourth is just some 'lucky' Islamist who accidentally lived long enough to get the cigarette lighter to the fuse. Then I would move back in and set up camp. Then the remaining Pali's in the surrounding territories can ask themselves..."Do we really want to push the agenda of liquidating the 'Joooo'?"
But that's just me.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:43:24pm |
re: #299 twincitiesgirl
I don't know how to do that--I saw this article last week so maybe some other lizard has already posted it.
Go to the main LGF page, click on "Show top rated links" at the top. Then click on the "submit a link" button. Fill in the fields (go to the url you are posting for copy/paste of link, headline, excerpt, etc.).
It's pretty easy, once you've done it the first time!
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gclaghorn Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:43:26pm |
re: #351 Taqiyyotomist
I think I just inadvertently figured out hippies. Wow.
And New York City cab drivers.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:44:17pm |
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newsjunkie_ky Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:44:25pm |
Granddaughter's favorite toy at Christmas was the ripping of the paper. She is 6 months. Now EVERYTHING has to have some type of battery powered music/noise. Can hardly find basic toys anymore.
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Joo-LiZ Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:44:28pm |
re: #344 SWPaul
I find a lot of people suffer from viewing this whole situation as a kind of big-brother little-brother situation. They look down on Hamas as being a primitive backwards people, and so anything they do is something that Israel, "the bigger man" should be able to put up with forever, without getting fed up and hitting back.
I have a sort of mental image of a man on a chair sipping his coffee while reading the paper, and a little boy running around the room poking him with a stick or bat or some other kind of "toy". Eventually, the man on the chair gets fed up, puts down the coffee, gives the boy a good smacking, and then goes back to his business, only for the boy to start poking him again.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:45:13pm |
re: #347 Iron Fist
In a manner of speaking, I guess. We both had a lot of fun with it.
Were cuffs involved?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:45:23pm |
re: #355 MandyManners
And, you liked it.
We only had two kinds of Ice Cream. Vanilla and melted Vanilla.
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:46:02pm |
re: #299 twincitiesgirl
And don't forget to pick a category from the drop-down menu on the left, above the text fields. heh. (my first linky there was last night, and I couldn't figure that out right away.)
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:46:14pm |
Actually, given that my bro and I were pretty inventive, it's a wonder that we survived childhood.
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:46:18pm |
re: #346 kcladderman
Left the house in the morning and did not come back inside except to eat. We did this everyday it was not raining or too cold. Kept ourselves entertained with just our minds and whatever we might stumble upon.
We built forts out of cardboard boxes and water painted them. We'd have puppet shows with our socks, yes we painted them too. We'd sit in a field of clover hunting for 4 leafers for hours....it was a contest, to see who could garner the most luck! We blew grass blades like whistles! Really loud! I never could do the fingers in the mouth whistle no matter how hard I tried.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:46:43pm |
re: #356 newsjunkie_ky
Granddaughter's favorite toy at Christmas was the ripping of the paper. She is 6 months. Now EVERYTHING has to have some type of battery powered music/noise. Can hardly find basic toys anymore.
There's a catalog out there that offers those things. I tossed it weeks ago. I'll try to Google.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:47:08pm |
re: #252 buzzdroid
i'm not jewish so i cant. its just what i've read over the years, in terms of collective knowledge and finding out about it.
if you can correct me , then i'm all ears. maybe i have it completely wrong.
Numbers 33:50 And the LORD spake unto Moses in the plains of Moab by Jordan [near] Jericho, saying,
33:51 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye are passed over Jordan into the land of Canaan;
33:52 Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places:
33:53 And ye shall dispossess [the inhabitants] of the land, and dwell therein: for I have given you the land to possess it.
33:54 And ye shall divide the land by lot for an inheritance among your families: [and] to the more ye shall give the more inheritance, and to the fewer ye shall give the less inheritance: every man's [inheritance] shall be in the place where his lot falleth; according to the tribes of your fathers ye shall inherit.
33:55 But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them [shall be] pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:47:18pm |
re: #362 Iron Fist
People tend to rethink their position when you make it plain that you will kill them if it continues.
It's the only language they understand. But so few people are willing to see that.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:47:19pm |
re: #364 irongrampa
Actually, given that my bro and I were pretty inventive, it's a wonder that we survived childhood.
I'm raising one of those.
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Joo-LiZ Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:47:41pm |
re: #357 Joo-LiZ
I find a lot of people suffer from viewing this whole situation as a kind of big-brother little-brother situation. They look down on Hamas as being a primitive backwards people, and so anything they do is something that Israel, "the bigger man" should be able to put up with forever, without getting fed up and hitting back.
I have a sort of mental image of a man on a chair sipping his coffee while reading the paper, and a little boy running around the room poking him with a stick or bat or some other kind of "toy". Eventually, the man on the chair gets fed up, puts down the coffee, gives the boy a good smacking, and then goes back to his business, only for the boy to start poking him again.
The point being that this is the image most people have of the situation.... the reality is much more like the little boy has a sharpened knife and keeps stabbing the man, looking for a way to kill him.
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:48:17pm |
re: #326 Jim in Virginia
We used to slide down the New Orleans west bank levees (a block from the house) on flatened cardboard boxes. But swimming in the Mississippi? Are you crazy? It's the sewer for half the country.
It is a sewer in St Paul MN, a mere 100 miles from its headwaters. I don't think that the distance the water travels makes it any better.
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:48:42pm |
re: #368 Alouette
Wow. I often forget about that passage. You don't mess with prophesy.
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:48:55pm |
re: #364 irongrampa
Actually, given that my bro and I were pretty inventive, it's a wonder that we survived childhood.
We survived! And as a result, we'll survive any mundane boredom that can be dished out today!
My palms are tough and so are the calluses on my feet
irongrampa.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:48:55pm |
re: #356 newsjunkie_ky
Granddaughter's favorite toy at Christmas was the ripping of the paper. She is 6 months. Now EVERYTHING has to have some type of battery powered music/noise. Can hardly find basic toys anymore.
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Joo-LiZ Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:49:05pm |
re: #372 buzzsawmonkey
Thanks for the link.
I'm trying to recall when the notion of "peace" as an achievable permanent state in the Middle East changed status from something that everyone recognized was desirable but not really attainable, to a Procrustean bed onto which Israel had be strapped at designated intervals and then lopped or racked to fit.
I think it is a legacy of the Carter years and the original Camp David Accords, at which Israel gave up the Sinai, with its minerals, its oil, its beaches, and its buffer zones in exchange for a worthless treaty with Egypt--but I could be wrong.
Peace = Israeli's getting attacked... nobody else is.
War = Anyone but Israeli's being harmed.
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:49:24pm |
re: #370 MandyManners
You are embarking on a truly dizzying experience. Remember to hold on tight.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:49:55pm |
re: #379 irongrampa
You are embarking on a truly dizzying experience. Remember to hold on tight.
I have Valium.
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Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:50:06pm |
re: #357 Joo-LiZ
I find a lot of people suffer from viewing this whole situation as a kind of big-brother little-brother situation. They look down on Hamas as being a primitive backwards people, and so anything they do is something that Israel, "the bigger man" should be able to put up with forever, without getting fed up and hitting back.
I have a sort of mental image of a man on a chair sipping his coffee while reading the paper, and a little boy running around the room poking him with a stick or bat or some other kind of "toy". Eventually, the man on the chair gets fed up, puts down the coffee, gives the boy a good smacking, and then goes back to his business, only for the boy to start poking him again.
Good analogy. I think a lot of these liberals tend to show their bigotry when they say the Israelis are the civilized ones and should take the high road. What are they inadvertently implying about the various Arabs when making remarks like that?
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:50:37pm |
re: #327 notutopia
I know it is sad. We had such fun back then..this was before the barbwired encasement fences were erected to keep people off the levees.
Another fun thing we used to do, on weekends, is ride down the post office concrete mail truck shute in those huge wheeled canvas bins. The pitch on the shute was steep enough to carry you way into the parking lot! Such simple fun.
We used to fight cabin fever in MN by going "bumper skiing" on unsuspecting cars. When the roads were ice packed or snow covered you could grab on to someones bumper and "ski" for a mile or more.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:50:48pm |
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SWPaul Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:51:17pm |
re: #371 Joo-LiZ
Right, you're exactly right. Not only does that little boy like to poke the big man, he wants to murder him.
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Sunlight Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:52:07pm |
re: #357 Joo-LiZ
I find a lot of people suffer from viewing this whole situation as a kind of big-brother little-brother situation. They look down on Hamas as being a primitive backwards people, and so anything they do is something that Israel, "the bigger man" should be able to put up with forever, without getting fed up and hitting back.
I have a sort of mental image of a man on a chair sipping his coffee while reading the paper, and a little boy running around the room poking him with a stick or bat or some other kind of "toy". Eventually, the man on the chair gets fed up, puts down the coffee, gives the boy a good smacking, and then goes back to his business, only for the boy to start poking him again.
Read Allison's para 5:
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:52:35pm |
I guess that if nothing else, the crowning achievement of our 40 years of marriage was raising the 2 best kids in this hemisphere. They turned out to be worth all the effort.
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:54:10pm |
re: #382 Outrider
Good analogy. I think a lot of these liberals tend to show their bigotry when they say the Israelis are the civilized ones and should take the high road. What are they inadvertently implying about the various Arabs when making remarks like that?
They do it all the time. It's their justification for all sorts of things. Affirmative action comes to mind. Lowering standards of college entry for minorities. Umm...Community Reinvestment Act.
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fclass308 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:54:11pm |
re: #382 Outrider
Good analogy. I think a lot of these liberals tend to show their bigotry when they say the Israelis are the civilized ones and should take the high road. What are they inadvertently implying about the various Arabs when making remarks like that?
That for the most part they are animal scum?
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:54:14pm |
re: #383 Truck Monkey
We used to fight cabin fever in MN by going "bumper skiing" on unsuspecting cars. When the roads were ice packed or snow covered you could grab on to someones bumper and "ski" for a mile or more.
Woh...that took guts! I didn't even think to ever try
using collective power! Are you now employed as a
stunt man?
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Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:54:24pm |
re: #383 Truck Monkey
We used to fight cabin fever in MN by going "bumper skiing" on unsuspecting cars. When the roads were ice packed or snow covered you could grab on to someones bumper and "ski" for a mile or more.
that is also a lot of fun when using roller skates, then letting go when the vehicle turns a corner.
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Joo-LiZ Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:54:31pm |
re: #386 Sunlight
Read Allison's para 5:
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
Perfect...
It seems Allison Sommer had the same idea as I did, only put it much more eloquently.
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:55:39pm |
re: #392 Outrider
that is also a lot of fun when using roller skates, then letting go when the vehicle turns a corner.
Are you now a stunt man too?
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:56:00pm |
re: #392 Outrider
that is also a lot of fun when using roller skates, then letting go when the vehicle turns a corner.
Now THAT sounds dangerous.
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Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:56:12pm |
re: #394 notutopia
Are you now a stunt man too?
no, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express one night. ;-)>
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:56:21pm |
re: #307 debutaunt
re: #274 engineboss
...I asked her if she had ever seen one of those cheese slicers with the roller and the wire. She tells me she sliced off part of her finger with one of those. ...Advice?"The wife" ?
I agree (usually)... but I think maybe the husband needs a brain cell checkup if he believes that bs! UNintentionally slicing off anything but cheese with that device would be virtually impossible!
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opnion Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:56:34pm |
Gettin ready to tee it up at the Rose Bowl. I am standing by my prediction of a Penn state victory. I am 50% certain.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:56:50pm |
Old girlfriend (seeing her Monday for Lunch), married now (as I am, no funny stuff here). She is married to a man with an obvious Jewish last name, has a daughter named Hava, but did not change her last name...
Think she converted? Or no?
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Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:57:24pm |
re: #396 Truck Monkey
Now THAT sounds dangerous.
I think that is why kids are made so resilient and heads are still soft. It's a wonder we ever made it past puberty.
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:57:44pm |
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itellu3times Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:57:56pm |
re: #357 Joo-LiZ
I find a lot of people suffer from viewing this whole situation as a kind of big-brother little-brother situation. They look down on Hamas as being a primitive backwards people, and so anything they do is something that Israel, "the bigger man" should be able to put up with forever, without getting fed up and hitting back.
I have a sort of mental image of a man on a chair sipping his coffee while reading the paper, and a little boy running around the room poking him with a stick or bat or some other kind of "toy". Eventually, the man on the chair gets fed up, puts down the coffee, gives the boy a good smacking, and then goes back to his business, only for the boy to start poking him again.
Like the stone-throwing kids (and adults) Israel put up with from at least 1967 onwards.
Per the analogy, at some point, if the kid doesn't stop poking people, we lock him up. At some point he's an adult, or a retard. Locked up in either case. Not competent. Not a member of society. Not treated as a member of society, but as sick and dangerous, to himself and others.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:58:13pm |
re: #401 buzzsawmonkey
Pretty convinced there aren'tcha?
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jan 1, 2009 1:58:26pm |
re: #400 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Old girlfriend (seeing her Monday for Lunch), married now (as I am, no funny stuff here). She is married to a man with an obvious Jewish last name, has a daughter named Hava, but did not change her last name...
Think she converted? Or no?
I think so.
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opnion Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:00:22pm |
Hmmm, run up to Rose Bowl kick off. USC definitely wins the 'Whose got the hottest cheerleaders contest?"
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:00:26pm |
I am tired of Israel kowtowing to the liberal left here in America and at home. Israel owes no allegiance to anyone other then her self and should be fighting this currant war as if it were her last. My hope it that this is just the prelude to an attack on Iran, to settle things close to home before there push to take out their real threat!
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SWPaul Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:00:34pm |
re: #387 Iron Fist
The Egyptians sure as hell don't have anything to lose if they turn a blind eye on the smuggling. The government is scared to death that the Muslim Brotherhood (who make most radical Islamic parties look like Boy Scouts) will someday overthrow them and lead the country to destruction. They need to appease the party just enough to keep them in line, but do nothing that will provoke retaliation from Israel. And yeah, allowing smuggling to go on would definitely help that appeasement.
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:01:05pm |
re: #399 opnion
Gettin ready to tee it up at the Rose Bowl. I am standing by my prediction of a Penn state victory. I am 50% certain.
Still riding that 50% fence heh?
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irongrampa Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:01:22pm |
Now you guys made me drag out our cheese slicer and look at it hard.
Gotta say, if you DO manage to cut yourself with it, then you shouldn't play with anything sharper than a Q-tip.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:01:28pm |
re: #313 yma o hyd
Worked for me ...
Try this one:
[Link: www.israellycool.com...]
Geez, Lizards! I was just letting him/her know of bad link.
I do know how to navigate... multi-platforms... taught classes, etc. ... been doing so since 1980s.
Geez!
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:02:06pm |
re: #402 Outrider
I think that is why kids are made so resilient and heads are still soft. It's a wonder we ever made it past puberty.
Too bad we have taken all of the fun out of growing up nowadays. I argue with "the wife" about the boy having to wear a helmet when he rides his bike in the neighborhood. I think its ridiculous. I never wore a helmet and did some really dangerous stuff on my bike. I lived but got pretty banged up.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:02:37pm |
re: #407 fclass308
I'm going to...I'm just interested in what y'all think before I see her.
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opnion Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:02:51pm |
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:03:10pm |
re: #414 irongrampa
Now you guys made me drag out our cheese slicer and look at it hard.
Gotta say, if you DO manage to cut yourself with it, then you shouldn't play with anything sharper than a Q-tip.
There is no way in hell someone could cut their finger off with a cheese slicer.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:03:25pm |
re: #384 debutaunt
He likes placing things on his Lionel train track just to watch the train derail.
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:04:27pm |
re: #416 Truck Monkey
Too bad we have taken all of the fun out of growing up nowadays. I argue with "the wife" about the boy having to wear a helmet when he rides his bike in the neighborhood. I think its ridiculous. I never wore a helmet and did some really dangerous stuff on my bike. I lived but got pretty banged up.
We were the lucky ones....
Bicycle Head Injuries
[Link: www.preventinjury.org...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:04:40pm |
re: #252 buzzdroid
i'm not jewish so i cant. its just what i've read over the years, in terms of collective knowledge and finding out about it.
if you can correct me , then i'm all ears. maybe i have it completely wrong.
It's a deeply complicated issue in Torah, and subsequent halachic law. Warfare is not forbidden, but there's quite a bit of control of what an army is permitted to do.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:06:30pm |
re: #420 MandyManners
He likes placing things on his Lionel train track just to watch the train derail.
Remind him not to use his penis!
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notutopia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:06:32pm |
Enjoy the ball games, gotta go cook...
and stay away from those cheese slicer dealies...
BBL
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kansas Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:07:20pm |
re: #35 Opinionated
So I'm guessing surrendering Gaza to the barbarians was not such a good idea.
Well, it seems easier to pound the shit out of Gaza without some actual decent civilians there.
Maybe withdrawing wasn't so bad.
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:07:33pm |
re: #416 Truck Monkey
Too bad we have taken all of the fun out of growing up nowadays. I argue with "the wife" about the boy having to wear a helmet when he rides his bike in the neighborhood. I think its ridiculous. I never wore a helmet and did some really dangerous stuff on my bike. I lived but got pretty banged up.
Oh ya, I remember very well back in the 70's we use to take a hockey net put it up on end and put down planks for a jump, we would race down hill at top speed and hit it, I don't know why I am still here to post this. I was real fun. I miss those days.
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:08:18pm |
re: #415 LeePro
Geez, Lizards! I was just letting him/her know of bad link.
I do know how to navigate... multi-platforms... taught classes, etc. ... been doing so since 1980s.
Geez!
LOL @ lgf. (@ me too.)
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opnion Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:08:49pm |
Both teams just took the field. USC does yhave an intimidation thing goin on. Penn State will have to be almost perfect.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:09:20pm |
Israeli strike kills Hamas top dog; AP says this "escalates campaign"
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Quilly Mammoth Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:09:24pm |
Gerard Baker of the UK Times whines that, sadly, "Don't expect Obama to get tough with Israel"
But it is an especially intriguing sort of silence. The whole world is waiting impatiently for Mr Obama to start making good on his promise of change. Of all the issues that have separated the US from the rest of the world during the Bush presidency, the Israeli-Palestinian one might span the largest chasm. Europeans and Arabs have simply not been able to believe at times the virtually unyielding pro-Israel line that the US has taken since 2001, whether over Jewish settlements, Ariel Sharon's security fence, the war with Hezbollah in Lebanon in 2006 or the present fighting with Hamas, or on any number of lesser but pointed issues.
Oh yes, the simply unbelievable stubbornness of Dubya to refuse to truck with murdering terrorists. sheesh.
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:09:33pm |
re: #426 Walter L. Newton
That may be one of those things you just gotta learn through harsh experience. /
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:09:42pm |
re: #432 opnion
Frau Blucher did a nice job on the coin toss.
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SWPaul Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:10:42pm |
Well, I'm going to go watch Planet Earth on DVD. Christmas gift. That's just a great show, really recommend it to everyone out there. Have a Happy New Year, hope your hangovers are getting better!
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:10:56pm |
re: #324 gclaghorn
I was always taught that if you separate the two ("my wife," "I") and say the same sentence with each one individually and it didn't sound right, then you are using the wrong case.
EXAMPLE:
Two people:
*my wife
*meTest it with I, individually:
"Came up to my wife"
"Came up to I"Doesn't sound right, so you would use "me."
That's what I learned, too. Easy as pie to figure it out.
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kansas Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:11:16pm |
re: #433 Dustyvet
Israeli strike kills Hamas top dog; AP says this "escalates campaign"
Maybe AP could go ahead and get Israel to agree to a cease fire. I think the Palestinians need a little re-load time.
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fclass308 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:11:25pm |
re: #416 Truck Monkey
We (American culture) seem to be intent on raising "panty waists" and passing them off as men....the "chickification of the American male rolls on unabated.
John Wayne.....Where are you? :)
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Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:11:31pm |
re: #404 itellu3times
Like the stone-throwing kids (and adults) Israel put up with from at least 1967 onwards.
Per the analogy, at some point, if the kid doesn't stop poking people, we lock him up. At some point he's an adult, or a retard. Locked up in either case. Not competent. Not a member of society. Not treated as a member of society, but as sick and dangerous, to himself and others.
Should at least take away his stick and make sure he doesn't pick up any more by busting them itty bitty fingers.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:11:56pm |
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opnion Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:12:40pm |
re: #436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Frau Blucher did a nice job on the coin toss.
*
82 year old Joe Paterno got a three year contract extension this year.
That is optimism.
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lostlakehiker Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:13:18pm |
Somehow, despite the never-ending famine that the Israeli siege of Gaza has caused, the population of Gaza rises exponentially. It's almost as if food were abundant. But no, this situation is different. For the first time in history, indeed, for the first time since life began, reproduction and multiplication can go forward without food. We know there is a famine there, because the New York Times tells us so. And who are we to believe, the Times or our lying eyes?
What is more, the Palestinians suffer from desperate shortages of essential cleaning supplies such as kerosine, hydrazine, and other chemicals commonly, but mistakenly, thought to be useful as rocket fuel. The Israeli embargo on the import of these necessary, life-sustaining common household supplies has forced the Palestinians to rocket and mortar Israel. How else can they get the criminal sons of pigs and apes of the Zionist Occupation Regime to give over the hydrazine?
/nyt
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Archimedes Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:13:24pm |
re: #324 gclaghorn
I was always taught that if you separate the two ("my wife," "I") and say the same sentence with each one individually and it didn't sound right, then you are using the wrong case.
EXAMPLE:
Two people:
*my wife
*meTest it with I, individually:
"Came up to my wife"
"Came up to I"Doesn't sound right, so you would use "me."
I didn't know that equation. It helps I a lot. :D
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Sunlight Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:13:50pm |
re: #417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm going to...I'm just interested in what y'all think before I see her.
This isn't the best place to ask. We got into this topic on a few threads and people were cussing, throwing chairs, I almost left for good. Some (not me) are very touchy on the subject.
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kansas Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:14:00pm |
re: #445 opnion
*
82 year old Joe Paterno got a three year contract extension this year.
That is optimism.
Do they have to pay his estate or does his contract expire with him? Heck, give him 20 years.
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:14:02pm |
Rabbi Jesse the Galilean states: "How meritorious is peace? Even in time of war Jewish law requires that one initiate discussions of peace." - Leviticus Rabba, Tzav 9
How completely opposite from the requirements of Musliim law. Even in time of peace hudna, one must be preparing for Jihad. If Islam is not the purest expression of Satan-worship ever conceived, I'm a Klingon.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:14:48pm |
re: #322 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Calm down. Colloquial. Ain't nothing wrong with it, no-how.
Wrong.
Colloquial: appropriate to, used in, or characteristic of spoken language or of writing that is used to create the effect of conversation
Colloquialism: an informal word or phrase that is more common in conversation than in formal speech or writing
Colloquial or colloquialism involves the use of slang or an informal expression in place of the proper or correct form.
Whenever you use a preposition (of, to, for, on, with, in, etc.), then the word following must be objective case, not nominative case (i.e., object of the preposition --- me, us, you, him, her, them)
/end lecture
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:14:51pm |
re: #445 opnion
*
82 year old Joe Paterno got a three year contract extension this year.
That is optimism.
She was on "Dancing with the stars". That! Is optimism.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:15:33pm |
re: #454 LeePro
Damn, Lee? How long did you work on that?
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mfarmer1 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:16:25pm |
Just for shits and giggles, I went over to Al-Manar tv. Wow, MEMRI will never run out of material to showcase from that part of the world, that's for sure.
Check out this quick online poll question:
Do you agree that the Zionist aggression against Gaza wouldn’t have taken place if it weren’t for Arab and Int’l collusion?
I have also discovered that the secondary explosions in the tunnels were not because of weapons storage...and no, not powdered milk either...but due to the fact that they were fuel supply lines. Of course, it's so obvious.
The banner on the website is quite fitting too. It spells out "Be Free" (Ashura) with blood spattered all over it. Nice.
I'm streaming the tv feed now. It's probably a good thing I don't speak Arabic or I really would have died from laughing by now.
[Link: www.almanar.com.lb...]
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fclass308 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:16:27pm |
re: #324 gclaghorn
My wife looked at me like the RCA dog when I told her that little technique.....and she still won't speak properly. :)
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:16:33pm |
re: #452 kansas
Do they have to pay his estate or does his contract expire with him? Heck, give him 20 years.
Never say expire to an old person...:)
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:16:37pm |
re: #456 Iron Fist
We used to soak tennis balls in hightest gasoline, light them, and throw them at each other. Now that is fun...
Was that Plan 8?
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Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:16:38pm |
re: #416 Truck Monkey
Too bad we have taken all of the fun out of growing up nowadays. I argue with "the wife" about the boy having to wear a helmet when he rides his bike in the neighborhood. I think its ridiculous. I never wore a helmet and did some really dangerous stuff on my bike. I lived but got pretty banged up.
I think it made us tougher and less prone to crying and whining every time we get banged up.
On a related note; I think the same can be said of germs. We have isolated and protected ourselves from so much, people now pop up with allergies to the damnedest things and are "sensitive" to such minor irritants now. just an opinion and doesn't necessarily reflect the views of the management. ;-)>
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:17:27pm |
PSU is certainly flying to the ball.
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:17:48pm |
re: #447 lostlakehiker
Somehow, despite the never-ending famine that the Israeli siege of Gaza has caused, the population of Gaza rises exponentially. It's almost as if food were abundant. But no, this situation is different. For the first time in history, indeed, for the first time since life began, reproduction and multiplication can go forward without food. We know there is a famine there, because the New York Times tells us so. And who are we to believe, the Times or our lying eyes?
What is more, the Palestinians suffer from desperate shortages of essential cleaning supplies such as kerosine, hydrazine, and other chemicals commonly, but mistakenly, thought to be useful as rocket fuel. The Israeli embargo on the import of these necessary, life-sustaining common household supplies has forced the Palestinians to rocket and mortar Israel. How else can they get the criminal sons of pigs and apes of the Zionist Occupation Regime to give over the hydrazine?
/nyt
I can make rocket fuel using pig's.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:17:48pm |
re: #324 gclaghorn
I was always taught that if you separate the two ("my wife," "I") and say the same sentence with each one individually and it didn't sound right, then you are using the wrong case.
EXAMPLE:
Two people:
*my wife
*meTest it with I, individually:
"Came up to my wife"
"Came up to I"Doesn't sound right, so you would use "me."
re: #325 debutaunt
/ prepositional head's up
YUP!
Hello, FBV #322
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:18:30pm |
re: #456 Iron Fist
We used to soak tennis balls in hightest gasoline, light them, and throw them at each other. Now that is fun...
We use to do that and play tennis. :-)
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:19:24pm |
re: #463 ploome hineni
How many Nobels for Medicine for Jews again? And for Muslims?
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lostlakehiker Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:19:37pm |
re: #416 Truck Monkey
Too bad we have taken all of the fun out of growing up nowadays. I argue with "the wife" about the boy having to wear a helmet when he rides his bike in the neighborhood. I think its ridiculous. I never wore a helmet and did some really dangerous stuff on my bike. I lived but got pretty banged up.
Bike helmets don't take the fun out of cycling. Concussion takes the fun out of your whole day, and for weeks after. Second and third concussions take the fun out of school---everything gets ever so much harder.
Football is fun too, but there's a reason for those helmets. As a long-time pedal pusher, I can report that there's a reason for bike helmets. Accidents will happen, but would have required a hospital visit, without a helmet, is just a "spill" when you're wearing one. The next day you get a new helmet, because the foam in the old one is crushed. No biggie.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:19:38pm |
re: #456 Iron Fist
We used to soak tennis balls in hightest gasoline, light them, and throw them at each other. Now that is fun...
pellet gun wars...winter coats and gloves....snorkle masks or goggles...blue jeans...
"c'ya mom"
"where you goin like that?"
"fishin"
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:19:43pm |
re: #454 LeePro
Reminds me of an old joke.
Texan goes off to Harvard.
Texan: "Do you know where the library's at?"
Blueblood: "You are at Harvard now, you should know better than to end a sentence with a preposition! Hurrph"
Texan: "Ok, do you know where the library's at, asshole?"
/my father-in-law told me this one.
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opnion Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:19:50pm |
re: #452 kansas
Do they have to pay his estate or does his contract expire with him? Heck, give him 20 years.
That's what I thought. if I'm paterno I wnt more years on the contract & plan to be around to collect.
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MAV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:20:47pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:21:48pm |
re: #450 Sunlight
The subject of my ex-girlfriend? What the hell are y'all doing talking about my ex-girlfriend?
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:22:05pm |
re: #470 albusteve
pellet gun wars...winter coats and gloves....snorkle masks or goggles...blue jeans...
"c'ya mom"
"where you goin like that?"
"fishin"
Did we all grow up in the same neighborhood? From what Iron fist and you have said I think we did.
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Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:22:49pm |
re: #456 Iron Fist
We used to soak tennis balls in hightest gasoline, light them, and throw them at each other. Now that is fun...
never thought of that one! Excellent! We did get ahold of those pesticide sprayers the cans with the pump coming out the end. We would make little flame throwers out of them for some midnight madness. ;-)>
| 478 |
BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:24:49pm |
Then we got cars. I had the fastest in the area. Never lost a race.
| 479 |
fclass308 Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:25:01pm |
A college coed from the south is moving into a dorm room with her new roomates.
She pleasantly asks "Where y'all from?" to the other girls.
A snotty yankee girl snips "Where we're from, we don't dangle our participles".
The new girl says "Oh, I'm so sorry! Let me rephrase that...where y'all from, bitch?"
| 480 |
Dustyvet Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:25:03pm |
Hello Martyr, hello Fatah
Please take all coffee, soda pop, beer, and other liquids away from your keyboards...now push play...enjoy...:)
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:26:11pm |
| 484 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:26:52pm |
re: #474 Iron Fist
Don't forget the roman candles. You can shoot them at each other with a decent degree of accuracy. We caught a tent on fire like that :-)
oh yeah....I lived next to a huge lake...bottle rocket battles were common...cherry bombs and even M-80s tossed around...we were all pretty undiciplined...playing chicken with speed boats..cannonballing out of them at 45mi per hr....sometimes a skier would crash and we just pull in the rope and say see ya after lunch! and drive away...turn and toss em a boat cushion....Gull Lake...5 mi long and a mile and half wide...oh man...
| 485 |
lostlakehiker Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:26:54pm |
re: #449 Iron Fist
See, I have a real problem with taking anything off the table when it comes to warfare. You worry about winning, and history will take care of itself.
If there are things that you simply won't do even if you lose because of it, then yu have created a perfect avenue for the enemy to attack you without fear of the consequences. We're seeing the truth of that played out daily in the WoT. We want to fight nice, and the Mohammedans don't mind blowing up little girls to further their war effort.
As long as we are playing by rules that put us at a disadvantage we will be unable to win. War isn't nice, it will never be nice. War is hell.
We should be reminding our enemies of that on a daily basis.
We should be reminded that if there's things you just won't do, and the enemy knows it because he's seen you not do it in other wars, then the stakes are lowered. Enemies will take into account that if they cut a deal, you'll honor your end of it. They will take into account that if you accept the surrender of one of their armies, the defeated army will come back, alive, at the end of hostilities. Enemies will shrink from employing drastic means that offer slim hope of success and will cost them dearly if they fail, because the price of losing is not so high that any risk is acceptable that offers hope of avoiding defeat.
If morality, pity, and forbearance were purely the sucker's game you seem to think it is, it wouldn't exist as one of the lines of thinking to which humans are predisposed. It would be generally thought of as a kind of insanity or congenital mental defect.
| 486 |
Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:27:03pm |
Defense Minister Ehud Barak ordered a closure to be imposed on the West Bank from Thursday night until Saturday night. The decision was made following a hearing on the IDF operation in Gaza. (Efrat Weiss)
via Israellycool
| 487 |
stevieray Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:27:19pm |
re: #468 Taqiyyotomist
How many Nobels for Medicine for Jews again? And for Muslims?
That's only because of the bias against camel urine!
| 489 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:28:24pm |
re: #483 Iron Fist
WD-40 works for that, too. We did all kinds of shit like that. It's a wonder we didn't blow ourselves up. But it was fun.
I turn forty this year (if no one kills me :-). It's hard to believe. Where did all the time go?
Some kids did, but in the meantime, the rest of us learned about things that hurt, burned, were scary, and so on... and that we could handle it.
We didn't grow up in padded cells with 24/7 supervision and crash helmets like some kind of helpless moron like kids today.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:29:06pm |
re: #476 BBEV
Did we all grow up in the same neighborhood? From what Iron fist and you have said I think we did.
dont know...did you ever take a pellet in the forehead?...that was probably me...
| 494 |
Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:30:20pm |
re: #480 Dustyvet
Oh hell yeah. I wish someone would take those scenes and use "Teach Your Children Well" by CSNY. I think it would be even more powerful, more evocative.
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:30:26pm |
re: #490 albusteve
dont know...did you ever take a pellet in the forehead?...that was probably me...
Ya I did, you bastard I still have a scar.
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Wishing Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:30:32pm |
re: #476 BBEV
Did we all grow up in the same neighborhood? From what Iron fist and you have said I think we did.
Beebees here, same equipment. LOL
Daisys.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:30:52pm |
re: #490 albusteve
dont know...did you ever take a pellet in the forehead?...that was probably me...
I lit my hair on fire once because I knew the Polish Cannon I just lit was loud and was quick to cover my ears... but forgot to put out the match.
Does that count?
| 499 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:31:05pm |
re: #496 ploome hineni
.......only 40
ewwwwww
I was once carded at 40
A likely story!
Howya doin', Ploome?
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Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:31:08pm |
re: #483 Iron Fist
WD-40 works for that, too. We did all kinds of shit like that. It's a wonder we didn't blow ourselves up. But it was fun.
I turn forty this year (if no one kills me :-). It's hard to believe. Where did all the time go?
I've used WD-40....and Breck hair spray among other things. If it would burn and spray? We tried it. Back then we could buy back powder fairly easily, so that opened up whole new avenues for our destructive streaks. But, it all paid off in the Army where they actually appreciated certain talents.
| 501 |
Silhouette Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:31:19pm |
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:32:22pm |
re: #497 Wishing
Beebees here, same equipment. LOL
Daisys.
I got my first 22 at the age of 10. But I still had my double barreled BB gun. No one else had one.
| 505 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:32:26pm |
| 506 |
Silhouette Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:32:29pm |
re: #496 ploome hineni
.......only 40
ewwwwww
I was once carded at 40
My state has a 'card everybody everytime" law. Carding 80 yr olds. (eye rolls)
| 508 |
Dustyvet Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:32:46pm |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:33:00pm |
re: #493 buzzsawmonkey
My nephews are being bred to be Cotton-Wool Kids, swaddled constantly in supervision, approved activities, play dates, being chauffeured around, etc. It's sad.
I know the type well. A kid needs to fall down, scrape knees, alone... just so they can figure out that they can survive a few bumps and bruises.
Hell, you can't develop a real imagination when you don't get to wander off and explore, etc.
| 510 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:33:06pm |
re: #495 BBEV
Ya I did, you bastard I still have a scar.
so that was you!...I tell you when the parents found out we were doing this they all went ballisic!...totally freaked!...everybody turned in their guns...but my dad, bless his soul set up a cool range behind the garage for me...an old Marine
| 511 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:34:11pm |
re: #493 buzzsawmonkey
My nephews are being bred to be Cotton-Wool Kids, swaddled constantly in supervision, approved activities, play dates, being chauffeured around, etc. It's sad.
Take 'em camping!
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Taqiyyotomist Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:34:23pm |
re: #480 Dustyvet
See, the vid doesn't make me laugh, the lyrics might, if they were just on paper, separate from the images. The images enrage me. I should figure out how to make a montage video like that. "Teach your Children" would work so much better. And you wouldn't need subtitles.
| 513 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:34:39pm |
re: #498 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I lit my hair on fire once because I knew the Polish Cannon I just lit was loud and was quick to cover my ears... but forgot to put out the match.
Does that count?
omg...that's funny!..yeah you're in bro....omg!...how'd you explain that?
| 515 |
Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:34:55pm |
re: #490 albusteve
dont know...did you ever take a pellet in the forehead?...that was probably me...
we used to get upwards of thirty of us kids, all with BBguns and pellet guns. We would roam the entire community and large woods adjacent to it fighting a huge war. There were large storm drains under the streets that we found how to get into and out of wherever we wanted. We could roam the entire community and never be seen by an adult.
| 517 |
Wishing Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:35:38pm |
re: #504 BBEV
I got my first 22 at the age of 10. But I still had my double barreled BB gun. No one else had one.
LOL I never even HEARD of one!
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:36:11pm |
re: #513 albusteve
omg...that's funny!..yeah you're in bro....omg!...how'd you explain that?
No one asked. :-)
Had long hair as a kid, a little missing wasn't much to notice.
Smelled really bad for a long time, tho'
| 519 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:36:21pm |
re: #513 albusteve
Caught my hair on fire (huge gentile-fro) on stage once during a candlelight service. Not tough? But does it count?
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:36:45pm |
re: #507 ploome hineni
still thrilled,
but may be getting that cough back, in spite of the antibiotics I took
dran some cough medecine last night
Puh-leeze don't let that cough get as bad as it was before getting more meds (antibiotics). Please don't let yourself suffer when there's no need.
Besides, how will you show off your shiny new toy if you're sick?
| 521 |
Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:37:18pm |
re: #496 ploome hineni
.......only 40
ewwwwww
I was once carded at 40
I have been carded more since I turned 54 then I have been my entire life because of these silly as*ed laws. I was being served in bars when I was 16 with no problem. Now I am 54 and look older and some kid has to card me by law. pfft
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:37:35pm |
BBL... gotta go start working on that 25 lb New Year's resolution...
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:38:12pm |
re: #510 albusteve
so that was you!...I tell you when the parents found out we were doing this they all went ballisic!...totally freaked!...everybody turned in their guns...but my dad, bless his soul set up a cool range behind the garage for me...an old Marine
I had several hundred acres behind my house to play in. I grew up with my own shooting range ( I made myself at age 10) funny thing was that that was a place that no animal ever thread :-)
I still have the BB gun and the 22 from my youth. I'm 45 now.
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:38:26pm |
re: #503 buzzsawmonkey
Somewhere or other in the Talmud it says, "If you are kind to the cruel, you will end by being cruel to the kind."
Showing mercy to a merciless enemy does not gain that enemy's respect, but his contempt.
It's in Midrash Shmuel. After Saul showed his humanity by sparing the Amalekites, he went and slaughtered the city of Nob. (Samuel 22:17)
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:38:48pm |
re: #521 Outrider
I have been carded more since I turned 54 then I have been my entire life because of these silly as*ed laws. I was being served in bars when I was 16 with no problem. Now I am 54 and look older and some kid has to card me by law. pfft
The very first time my ID was questioned was the first time I actually used my own.
When I was using the older sis', I had no problems.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:39:28pm |
re: #515 Outrider
we used to get upwards of thirty of us kids, all with BBguns and pellet guns. We would roam the entire community and large woods adjacent to it fighting a huge war. There were large storm drains under the streets that we found how to get into and out of wherever we wanted. We could roam the entire community and never be seen by an adult.
oh yeah...that's a good sized fight there...nowdays you'd be hunted down and sent away...times change
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:39:54pm |
re: #439 reine.de.tout
That's what I learned, too. Easy as pie to figure it out.
That's what gets me! Most of it is so-o-o-o-o-o EASY!
English language ignorance infuriates me. Last night I was watching one of those crime investigation shows with one of those familiar (but can't think of her name) narrator types, who referred to the list of suspects as a regular "rose gallery."
Wonder how many know what the correct expression should have been...?
And that wasn't even related to grammar! Aaarrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:40:17pm |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:40:22pm |
re: #515 Outrider
we used to get upwards of thirty of us kids, all with BBguns and pellet guns. We would roam the entire community and large woods adjacent to it fighting a huge war. There were large storm drains under the streets that we found how to get into and out of wherever we wanted. We could roam the entire community and never be seen by an adult.
You're lucky you didn't put somebody's eye out.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:41:19pm |
re: #528 LeePro
That's what gets me! Most of it is so-o-o-o-o-o EASY!
English language ignorance infuriates me. Last night I was watching one of those crime investigation shows with one of those familiar (but can't think of her name) narrator types, who referred to the list of suspects as a regular "rose gallery."
Wonder how many know what the correct expression should have been...?
And that wasn't even related to grammar! Aaarrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!
Today I saw a news story that referred to a "weapons cash".
sheesh.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:41:54pm |
re: #519 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Caught my hair on fire (huge gentile-fro) on stage once during a candlelight service. Not tough? But does it count?
not sure but if you let it burn off to stubble I'd say you're at least a Ranger....
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:42:25pm |
re: #441 fclass308
We (American culture) seem to be intent on raising "panty waists" and passing them off as men....the "chickification of the American male rolls on unabated.
John Wayne.....Where are you? :)
"...male rolls...?"
Hmmmm... we talking buns... er what!?!?!?
~likes the small, tight ones.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:43:26pm |
re: #532 reine.de.tout
Today I saw a news story that referred to a "weapons cash".
For all intensive purposes, it is correct.
;-)
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Outrider Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:43:27pm |
re: #498 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I lit my hair on fire once because I knew the Polish Cannon I just lit was loud and was quick to cover my ears... but forgot to put out the match.
Does that count?
how many beverage cans did you use. We built one once that used over 30 Coke cans (back when they were stronger), a bunch of duct tape, a lot of string, and a couple of 2X4s and an entire can of fluid. What a BOOM!
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sphincter Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:44:40pm |
use to roll about half a dozen bee-bee's down the barrel of the old Cross beebee gun, pump it about 20-25 times, for ambushes.....I still have beebee gun war scars. I'm surprised I still have both eye's.
C'mon Penn State.......drive down the field.....this is a pretty good game.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:45:07pm |
re: #540 BBEV
OK DAD. :-)
Are we made of money? Do you want to heat the whole neighborhood? Your face will freeze that way and I'll give you something to cry about.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:45:07pm |
re: #524 BBEV
I had several hundred acres behind my house to play in. I grew up with my own shooting range ( I made myself at age 10) funny thing was that that was a place that no animal ever thread :-)
I still have the BB gun and the 22 from my youth. I'm 45 now.
I still have my ten shot 1909 Remington .22 pump my grandpa gave me...shorts only...it's one of my treasures...ity bity thing...BB's and pellets are long gone
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mattm Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:45:12pm |
re: #22 Bloodnok
Can someone make these charts into a fucking billboard?
Too many libs have been brainwashed to by the MSM, etc, to believe them. Might work on more independents.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:45:32pm |
re: #457 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Damn, Lee? How long did you work on that?
Coupla' minutes. Not "work" --- easy!
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albusteve Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:48:01pm |
re: #536 buzzsawmonkey
They're sent to camp for eight weeks in the summer, so that Mom doesn't have to deal with them. And it appears they enjoy it.
But the real problem is that they live in a suburban development cul-de-sac and do not ride bicycles anywhere; they don't read much, and what they do read is almost entirely fantasy fiction; they are listless and bored without a video game or a DVD to watch; the younger one throws a tantrum every time he doesn't win a game, or thinks he "ought" to win, but isn't interested in practicing so that he can win.
Don't get me wrong; I think fantasy fiction is fine, as part of a well-rounded book list (though I think it's a shame kids get into third- and fourth-string derivatives of the Greek and Norse myths and the Bible stories, and never read the originals), but as a main diet it's very limiting indeed.
Meantime, they've been filled chock-full of global warming myths, facile anti-Palin sentiment, expectations that they are entitled to have hot self-esteem injections every five minutes. They whine about money, but don't do chores to earn it--of course, in a family that can afford to have servitors cut the grass or mow the lawn, why would they?
Thank G-d I'll be dead by the time their generation runs the country.
unless they get inspired later you can polk a fork in those kids...sorry
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:48:20pm |
re: #471 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Reminds me of an old joke.
Texan goes off to Harvard.
Texan: "Do you know where the library's at?"
Blueblood: "You are at Harvard now, you should know better than to end a sentence with a preposition! Hurrph"
Texan: "Ok, do you know where the library's at, asshole?"
/my father-in-law told me this one.
Rolling on floor laughing mine off!
Heh.
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:50:28pm |
re: #543 albusteve
I still have my ten shot 1909 Remington .22 pump my grandpa gave me...shorts only...it's one of my treasures...ity bity thing...BB's and pellets are long gone
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:52:02pm |
re: #496 ploome hineni
.......only 40
ewwwwww
I was once carded at 40
Carded at 65...........................
...for ordering from the old farts menu!
LOL
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:52:48pm |
re: #550 LeePro
Carded at 65...........................
...for ordering from the old farts menu!LOL
Your 65? No way.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:53:56pm |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:54:07pm |
re: #536 buzzsawmonkey
They're sent to camp for eight weeks in the summer, so that Mom doesn't have to deal with them. And it appears they enjoy it.
But the real problem is that they live in a suburban development cul-de-sac and do not ride bicycles anywhere; they don't read much, and what they do read is almost entirely fantasy fiction; they are listless and bored without a video game or a DVD to watch; the younger one throws a tantrum every time he doesn't win a game, or thinks he "ought" to win, but isn't interested in practicing so that he can win.
Don't get me wrong; I think fantasy fiction is fine, as part of a well-rounded book list (though I think it's a shame kids get into third- and fourth-string derivatives of the Greek and Norse myths and the Bible stories, and never read the originals), but as a main diet it's very limiting indeed.
Meantime, they've been filled chock-full of global warming myths, facile anti-Palin sentiment, expectations that they are entitled to have hot self-esteem injections every five minutes. They whine about money, but don't do chores to earn it--of course, in a family that can afford to have servitors cut the grass or mow the lawn, why would they?
Thank G-d I'll be dead by the time their generation runs the country.
It's completely impossible to find a teen kid to mow your lawn anymore. Impossible. That's how my brothers and their friends made their summer spending money. But you cannot find a kid anymore to mow your lawn.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:55:51pm |
re: #542 Silhouette
Are we made of money? Do you want to heat the whole neighborhood? Your face will freeze that way and I'll give you something to cry about.
Did you ever see the commercial - a guy in his new house, front door wide-open talking to his dad on the phone - Dad - I'm calling from my new house. . . I just wanted to let you I'm air-conditioning the entire neighborhood.
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David IV of Georgia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 2:59:51pm |
re: #471 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Reminds me of an old joke.
Texan goes off to Harvard.
Texan: "Do you know where the library's at?"
Blueblood: "You are at Harvard now, you should know better than to end a sentence with a preposition! Hurrph"
Texan: "Ok, do you know where the library's at, asshole?"
/my father-in-law told me this one.
That's a rule I have problems with. It is first found in A Short Introduction to English Grammar by Robert Louth in 1787. Also found in this gem for the first time is the rule that two negatives don't emphasize the negativeness of the sentence, but cancel out and form a positive. Apparently before this book, people didn't speak English.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:01:10pm |
re: #542 Silhouette
Are we made of money? Do you want to heat the whole neighborhood? Your face will freeze that way and I'll give you something to cry about.
~runs with scissors
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TaeJohnDo Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:01:16pm |
re: #495 BBEV
Ya I did, you bastard I still have a scar.
When I was around 10, my brother shot me in the gut with a BB gun. So that night when he was getting is bath ready I made sure there was no BB in the chamber, cocked my gun and put the cardboard end cap of a BB tube on the end f the gun, walked into the bathroom while he was bent over testing the water and said, "Tony, you son of a bitch, I had enough out of you!" And I shot him in the ass. It scared him so bad he fell forward and smacked his head on the wall.
He never shot me again.
He did beat the holy shit out of me, though.
And it was worth it.
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David IV of Georgia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:04:20pm |
re: #559 TaeJohnDo
Personally, I'm glad ribs stop BB's.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:04:31pm |
re: #554 reine.de.tout
It's completely impossible to find a teen kid to mow your lawn anymore. Impossible. That's how my brothers and their friends made their summer spending money. But you cannot find a kid anymore to mow your lawn.
That's 'cuz they don't make lawn-mowing-helmets and -eye-protectors and -shinguards...
...yet!
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BBEV Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:07:27pm |
re: #559 TaeJohnDo
When I was around 10, my brother shot me in the gut with a BB gun. So that night when he was getting is bath ready I made sure there was no BB in the chamber, cocked my gun and put the cardboard end cap of a BB tube on the end f the gun, walked into the bathroom while he was bent over testing the water and said, "Tony, you son of a bitch, I had enough out of you!" And I shot him in the ass. It scared him so bad he fell forward and smacked his head on the wall.
He never shot me again.
He did beat the holy shit out of me, though.
And it was worth it.
Hay dude I'm sorry I did that really.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:08:22pm |
re: #528 LeePro
That's what gets me! Most of it is so-o-o-o-o-o EASY!
English language ignorance infuriates me. Last night I was watching one of those crime investigation shows with one of those familiar (but can't think of her name) narrator types, who referred to the list of suspects as a regular "rose gallery."
Wonder how many know what the correct expression should have been...?
And that wasn't even related to grammar! Aaarrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!
I love the way the Sopranos does that - the hair apparent, sweetness and lights, etc.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:09:07pm |
re: #561 LeePro
That's 'cuz they don't make lawn-mowing-helmets and -eye-protectors and -shinguards...
...yet!
Actually, our daughter does our lawn, and we pay her like we would pay anyone else.
And the first thing the Roi did with our lawnmower was strip off all the "safety" stuff. It's a basic mower. That has no lever to turn it off ( you have to take a stick and disconnect the wires from the sparkplugs).
It's been a great learning experience for her. The latest - she wanted a bookshelf for her room, and wanted it made a particular way. The Roi bought the wood and supervised her while she made it.
I'm lucky to have such a handy husband.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:09:50pm |
re: #201 Alouette
Sharon's MASTERSTROKE is what has made him a vegetable for the past six years.
Wow, low blow. I just cannot laugh at health jokes.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:10:54pm |
re: #532 reine.de.tout
Today I saw a news story that referred to a "weapons cash".
sheesh.
It's even worse when they call it a cache and give it two syllables.
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TaeJohnDo Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:12:03pm |
re: #493 buzzsawmonkey
My nephews are being bred to be Cotton-Wool Kids, swaddled constantly in supervision, approved activities, play dates, being chauffeured around, etc. It's sad.
Our youngest started TaeKwonDo at 4. He loved the sparring, and really, it was hard to get hurt because at that age and size, the pads cover them head to toe and make it hard to move, so they could wail on each other. But he had a bad habit of leaning in and down and I kept telling him he was going to get kicked in the face if he didn't stop. It finally happened -- he took a foot to the nose and the toe nail cut him open. So he's crying and and of course the other kid starts crying and I looked at him and said, "See, now stop leaning forward." So he nods and and gives the kid who kicked him a hug, and then bows and continues sparring, blood trickling down his face.
Made me proud.
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ArmyWife Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:12:31pm |
re: #532 reine.de.tout
To get out of spell check mode in blogger you have to click a link that says "Done Spellchecking" I kid you not.
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TaeJohnDo Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:13:29pm |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:19:01pm |
re: #571 buzzsawmonkey
As long as I'm bitching about what's being done to my nephews, they are also not being taught English. They don't have English class--they have "Comm. (communication) Arts," which apparently does not stoop to the teaching of grammar or spelling, or such things as poetry basics like meter.
Their grammar is atrocious, and their parents do not correct them. If one questions their utterance of something like "I brang it home," they look at you like you're nuts.
Please don't tell me your nephews say things like "I brang it home". Please.
Surely they must have inherited at least some part of your gift for words and language; and if they are not taught what they need to be taught in order to make the best use of that gift, that's just a cryin' shame.
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buzzdroid Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:33:21pm |
re: #292 yma o hyd
His blog, that of The Muqata, and of course Carl in Jerusalem's blog are a daily must - as is, naturally, the one and only Elder of Ziyon!
who needs the 24X7 Al-BBC , SkyNews or CNN when you have that sort of frontline reporting...
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:33:55pm |
re: #573 buzzsawmonkey
No, it's true. I corrected the younger one on "brang" earlier this year. I corrected the elder one last week on his use of "this begs the question" to mean "this raises the question", but I don't think I got through to him--particularly as I heard his father use the same improper usage during the same visit.
It's horrifying. They're not dumb kids, but they are not being challenged--and, since they "get good grades," nobody seems too inclined to question the system. They attend a suburban middle school in a high-priced suburb in the Midwest, and in my opinion the school system is shafting them big-time.
Oh, golly, they are not being well-served at all. That is indeed horrifying, and I'm sorry to hear it.
My daughter has attended Catholic school all her life (natch), and though I've had issues from time to time, when it comes down to the actual education, I am so grateful that the Catholic school system here believes in a curriculum that stresses good old-fashioned readin', writin', and 'rithmatic, and so she has an excellent foundation.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:33:57pm |
re: #426 Walter L. Newton
Remind him not to use his penis!
Sounds like you know from experience, Walter...
;-p
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David IV of Georgia Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:49:17pm |
re: #577 buzzsawmonkey
I frankly don't see how they are going to learn a foreign language, when that comes up in the curriculum, if they haven't been given basic instruction in English grammar.
Sometimes learning a foreign language forces one to learn the rules of English grammar.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 1, 2009 3:55:27pm |
re: #578 David IV of Georgia
Sometimes learning a foreign language forces one to learn the rules of English grammar.
This is true.
All the things I paid no attention to in English class - well, I had to learn them when I took my foreign language. So you are correct!
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Achilles Tang Thu, Jan 1, 2009 4:29:32pm |
Anybody notice that the difference in number between rockets and mortars is only 8?
And some people say there is no such thing as coincidence...
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hazzyday Thu, Jan 1, 2009 5:09:27pm |
re: #559 TaeJohnDo
Funny, but no parents around for Gun Safety? my old man would have knocked the crap out of me if I even accidentally pointed a gun at someone.
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path Thu, Jan 1, 2009 5:55:52pm |
re: #400 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Old girlfriend (seeing her Monday for Lunch), married now (as I am, no funny stuff here). She is married to a man with an obvious Jewish last name, has a daughter named Hava, but did not change her last name...
Think she converted? Or no?
Yes
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Taqyia2Me Thu, Jan 1, 2009 7:56:18pm |
Look at these graphs, recollect how the Israel/Palestinian conflict is covered, and ask yourself one question:
Is Big Media “too big to fail”, do you want your tax dollars bailing out Big Media?
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Sloppy Thu, Jan 1, 2009 8:38:54pm |
How about slingshots and cherry bombs? Great fun.
Took a pellet on the shinbone once. Ouch!
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Seax Thu, Jan 1, 2009 10:32:27pm |
Yes those graphs say it all.
That is a hell of a lot of steel crap raining down on Israel.
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