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1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:21:31pm

Hey! We were just talking about this...

2 The Other Les  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:21:40pm

If the Klan did something like that the Feds would all over their ass flies on excrement.

3 The Mongoose  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:21:54pm

Religion of Peace!

4 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:22:51pm

Attacked by people wearing "peace scarves." Freakin' fantastic.

5 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:23:10pm

Human shields....

6 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:23:15pm

Obviously a hate crime, letting pro-Israeli people out on the streets like that

//

7 offendi  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:23:28pm

And they live in the United States. Think about it.

8 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:23:41pm

Play close attention to the video starting at 0:22! Scary.

9 chicken kiev  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:23:51pm

All they want is some peace.
Just give them some peace.

10 Racer X  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:24:06pm

How these people can ignore the facts is just astonishing.

11 paybacktime  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:24:10pm

"F" "F" PaleSWINE.

12 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:24:17pm

add it to the ever growing list of pro-nazi / pro-hamas assault and intimation.

"Go back to the ovens" shouts a pro-nazi.

13 jhrhv  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:25:54pm

With peace activists like these guys who needs war mongers?

14 FightingBack  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:26:03pm

The one from Ft Lauderdale is bad, too.
Florida

15 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:26:06pm

Also note this section at the bottom of my post:

Meanwhile, at an earlier San Francisco Gaza protest on December 30, the Palestinian protesters (according to this post at the "At the Back of the Hill" blog) chanted the following slogans in Arabic:

"Itbach al Yahud" (slaughter the Jews)
"Falastin balad'na w'al Yahud qalab'na" (Palestine is our land and the Jews are our dogs)
"ba ruh, ba dam, nafdeek ya Falastin" (with our soul, with our blood, we will cleanse you oh Palestine),
"al mawt al Yahud" (death to the Jews),
"Khaybar Khaybar ya Yahud, jaish-Muhammad saya'ud" (Khaybar Khaybar oh Jews, the army of Muhammad will return).

At the Back of the Hill noted,

While the Arabs screamed their desire to exterminate Jews, the English-monolingualists simply stood there happily smiling their approbation.
16 Orangutan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:27:04pm

RoP strikes again!

thx Zombie

17 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:27:15pm

Can't they say anything else? That's the stupidest chant I've ever heard. Why say free twice? Who are they, Jimmy Two Times?

"I'mma get the papers, get the papers."

18 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:27:38pm

re: #15 zombie

These folks are "Americans". Right?

You Yanks won't let me into your country, but you let these guys in.

19 swamprat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:27:56pm

Charles, the "comments" button is just a number. Shouldn't it say "see all --- comments" or something more intuitive?

20 LEGION  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:28:00pm

Crazy man, thanks to the looney libs for bringing this crap over here!

21 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:28:20pm

I liked the "Hamas Had It Coming" sign

22 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:28:21pm

re: #8 zombie

Play close attention to the video starting at 0:22! Scary.

I just finished your whole report. What a disgusting thing!

23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:28:28pm

re: #18 WhiteRasta

I'll let you in. Why didn't you ask me?

24 FightingBack  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:28:33pm

Only Ugly women would wear those scarves. Beauty needs to shine.

25 jhrhv  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:28:34pm

Is anyone questioning their patriotism yet?

26 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:28:57pm

re: #13 jhrhv

With peace activists like these guys who needs war mongers?

I would love to see that group run into a bunch of gay marriage nuts. That would be fun!

27 Amy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:29:20pm

Don't they need permits to stage these marches? Why not deny them permits if they engage in violence? Or am I being too much of a New Yorker here talking about permits?

28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:29:24pm

re: #19 swamprat

It was recently removed. Was redundant. Was also the same as something else.

29 Racer X  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:29:33pm

Many of these idiots simply want something, anything, to protest - it gives their miserable lives purpose. The rest are truly insane.

30 Orangutan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:29:34pm

re: #18 WhiteRasta


Maybe you just need a sponsor.

Apparently, the whack jobs in the video already have an indigenous sponsor.

31 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:30:25pm

re: #22 Dianna

I just finished your whole report. What a disgusting thing!

And it's happening right now again at the Israeli consulate on Montgomery. Tomorrow's report may be worse!

32 The Other Les  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:30:26pm

re: #10 Racer X

How these people can ignore the facts is just astonishing.

No it isn't.

33 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:30:34pm

Watch the woman in the video charge the barrier and try to attack the pro-Israel folks not once, but several times

34 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:30:47pm

Who makes these professional signs for the terror shills?

35 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:30:48pm

re: #24 FightingBack

Only Ugly women would wear those scarves. Beauty needs to shine.

Makes 'em look like Gazilla.

36 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:30:50pm

re: #18 WhiteRasta

These folks are "Americans". Right?

You Yanks won't let me into your country, but you let these guys in.

If our nation continues to swirl down the leftista nazi toilet, trust me, you won't want to come here. Hope and change.

37 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:31:05pm

These Jackass Pali Terror Death Cult Loving Freaks are really Orwellian.

Democracy = Fascism.
Fascism = Freedom.
Terror = Legitimate defense.
Terrorist = Freedom fighter.

I would like them to discover the meanings of those things up close and very personally. They cry for mama like babies.

They're courage last as far as they think the 1st Amend covers them.

Sick cowards, a pox on all or them.

38 miamitech  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:31:14pm

im going to the demonstration at the holocaust museum in miami beach tomorrow at noon. Im gonna ride my bike down there. the one in ft. lauderdale was so crazy i have to see this one in person.

39 Amy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:31:19pm

re: #34 Alouette

Who makes these professional signs for the terror shills?

ANSWER, I believe.

40 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:31:24pm

re: #33 mikalm

She also harangues one of the cops in the last attempt. What a nutcase!

41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:32:05pm

re: #33 mikalm

Watch the woman in the video charge the barrier and try to attack the pro-Israel folks not once, but several times

Wonder how many protests this woman take part in per year.

42 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:32:28pm

They are getting more and more open in their attacks.

From Nov 2007, in Toronto

The Betar-supported Campus Coalition of Zionists (CCZ), together with Hasbarah, manned a table in Vari Hall, with permission from the university, with pamphlets and brochures about the danger emanating from Iran.

However, the situation became very difficult for the students who participated. They were vastly outnumbered by pro-Arab students who surrounded them, and eventually the pro-Israel activists fled. As they left, there was cheering by the pro-Arab mob.

According to Feferman, “I’ve never seen anything like this at York. We weren’t even discussing the issues anymore. It was pure Jew hatred. That’s what it’s come to.”
In fact, Feferman noticed an acquaintance there and said hello, but received no acknowledgement. She emailed him later that day to apologize, explaining that she didn’t want everyone to know she was Jewish. To Feferman, this episode is a red light. “We know there’s a crisis when a student on campus is afraid to reveal she’s Jewish and feels unsafe,” he said.

And at San Francisco State in 2002

And all the Jews stood still, listening as the shouted hate of the counter-demonstrators filled the air with abuse.

As soon as the community supporters left, the 50 students who remained praying in a minyan for the traditional afternoon prayers, or chatting, or cleaning up after the rally, talking -- were surrounded by a large, angry crowd of Palestinians and their supporters. But they were not calling for peace. They screamed at us to "go back to Russia" and they screamed that they would kill us all, and other terrible things.

In NY

At the conclusion of the film, Binyamin Rister, a Jewish student at CUNY, raised his hand to ask the question, "Do you support terrorism?" The Arab presenters refused to answer. Rister politely repeated the same question only to find himself set upon by five CUNY security cops who dragged him from his seat and removed him from the room. One officer continued holding him by the neck on the outside escalator and repeatedly banged Rister's head against the wall as the escalator descended. Then, before they reached the bottom, the guard threw Rister head first down the remaining steps, injuring him severely enough to be taken to the hospital in a neck brace.

Binyamin Rister, 19, was taken by ambulance to a hospital in a neck brace by paramedics.

This is the second time a Jewish man was beaten up at an ISM event in this country. One year ago, Georgetown University guards severely beat a 67-year-old retired police officer for also

asking if the speakers supported terrorism.

43 Racer X  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:32:29pm

re: #33 mikalm

Watch the woman in the video charge the barrier and try to attack the pro-Israel folks not once, but several times

While at the same time acting like she is the one being attacked.

Familiar tactic.

44 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:33:02pm

That woman with the big earrings and "peace scarf" [spit] should have been arrested when she made her first move.

45 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:33:03pm

re: #36 FrogMarch

I disagree with you on that point. The USA cannot ever be destroyed, as much as the wing nuts would like to think so.

46 PayBackTime  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:33:08pm

I DEMAND JUSTICE for the Jews of Khaybar.

If Mohammed were alive today, he would be facing trial for War Crimes in the Hague.

47 Muadib  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:33:15pm

re: #8 zombie

Play close attention to the video starting at 0:22! Scary.

They do not want peace.

48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:33:23pm

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wonder how many protests this woman takes part in per year.

Sorry, I had to fix that. Tonto got to my keyboard a minute ago.

49 RobCon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:33:39pm

Zombie is my hero.
Keep up the great work.

50 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:33:55pm

re: #33 mikalm

Watch the woman in the video charge the barrier and try to attack the pro-Israel folks not once, but several times

She seemed to be on Angel Dust or something. Demented.

51 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:33:57pm

re: #44 Alouette

That woman with the big earrings and "peace scarf" [spit] should have been arrested when she made her first move.

TazHer.

52 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:34:06pm

re: #46 PayBackTime

He'd also be up on child abuse and child porn charges , too.

53 The Other Les  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:34:21pm

re: #46 PayBackTime

I DEMAND JUSTICE for the Jews of Khaybar.

If Mohammed were alive today, he would be facing trial for War Crimes in the Hague.

If the Big Mo' were alive today he would receive the Nobel Peace Prize.

54 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:34:25pm

re: #34 Alouette

Who makes these professional signs for the terror shills?

A.N.S.W.E.R. makes them.

55 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:34:42pm

re: #52 WhiteRasta

He'd also be up on child abuse and child porn charges , too.

Or be a college professor with ties to the DNC

56 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:34:57pm

This is reaching past verbal protest. This group is physically aggressive. I fear that the Israel embassy
protest will be a fists to cuff encounter.
This is getting out of accepted bounds for the peaceful legal range of protesting.

57 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:34:59pm

re: #46 PayBackTime

I DEMAND JUSTICE for the Jews of Khaybar.

If Mohammed were alive today, he would be facing trial for War Crimes in the Hague.

No, he would be given the Nobel Peace Prize and invited to speak at the U.N. He would also be made an official advisor to the Carter Center.

58 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:35:06pm

re: #43 Racer X

While at the same time acting like she is the one being attacked.

Familiar tactic.

Yup. Especially popular among female moonbats. They know that they're far less likely to catch nightstick or taser treatment than a man, and are also far more likely to be an object of sympathy in the rare cases when they do. So they tend to be the nuttiest of the provocateurs.

59 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:35:19pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ewwww... Harsh....

60 FightingBack  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:35:26pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Filmmaker who married his stepdaughter?

61 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:36:11pm

It would be interesting to see pro-Hamas demonstrators' response to someone with a sign:

Free Free Palestine
To Kill Jews

Probably be led to the front.

62 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:36:20pm

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

To which creep are you referring to?

63 jhrhv  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:36:31pm

re: #8 zombie

I'm personally way to violent to go to something like that. I would sharpen the bottom of my flag pole and....I would be in prison. That or the /spit would be real spit and a fight would break out.

Thanks for doing the great photo and video essays you do zombie.

64 The Other Les  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:36:52pm

re: #52 WhiteRasta

He'd also be up on child abuse and child porn charges , too.

Anyone attempting to charge the Big Mo' with any crime, including sexual abuse of children, would be denounced as a irght wing zionist fascist stooge by the MSM and the Intelligencia. And that would be on a good day.

65 Mike McDaniel  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:36:55pm

The question is, how long until one of these protesters makes a terrorist attack?

66 LEGION  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:37:02pm

And of course our marxist commie press won't show how wacky and violent the pro-pali's are. San Fran must go into the ocean and take this weirdos with it SOON!

67 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:37:13pm

re: #62 WhiteRasta

To which creep are you referring to?

Woody Allen?

68 The Other Les  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:37:21pm

re: #54 zombie

A.N.S.W.E.R. makes them.

They need to answer for that.

69 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:37:27pm

re: #45 WhiteRasta

I disagree with you on that point. The USA cannot ever be destroyed, as much as the wing nuts would like to think so.

Sure, but the Orwellian deterioration of our culture and society will certainly take a toll.

70 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:37:27pm

re: #50 zombie

She seemed to be on Angel Dust or something. Demented.

I doubt it. Adrenalin is far deadlier and more effective than any other intoxicant for cause-mongering rage-junkies like this.

71 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:37:27pm

You always tell who the bad guys are and who the good guys are by which group the cops have their backs to, and who they are watching.

72 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:38:04pm

As I mentioned earlier this week, my wife's aunt from SF was in town for the holidays and as always, tossed a few 'grenades'- like why would our son (deployed in Afghanistan) decide to join the military....my response, to keep you safe you stupid hag (well, a bit more nuanced) and why the US keeps 'propping up' Israel (because the UN created the state 60 or so years ago and are an ally).
I truly suspect they put something in the water out there...

73 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:38:06pm

re: #46 PayBackTime

I DEMAND JUSTICE for the Jews of Khaybar.

If Mohammed were alive today, he would be facing trial for War Crimes in the Hague.

He'd be a two-bit pedophile forgotten in some dirty prison.

74 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:38:15pm

re: #42 Silhouette

They are getting more and more open in their attacks.

From Nov 2007, in Toronto

asking if the speakers supported terrorism.

Feferman has a great video showing the escalation of Israel Apartheid Week on campuses.

75 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:38:53pm

re: #49 RobCon

Zombie is my hero.
Keep up the great work.

I didn't take this video myself! A rare instance of me having to rely on someone else's video -- because I didn't have time to attend the protest myself.

76 Gang of One  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:39:20pm

re: #15 zombie

Also note this section at the bottom of my post:

Meanwhile, at an earlier San Francisco Gaza protest on December 30, the Palestinian protesters (according to this post at the "At the Back of the Hill" blog) chanted the following slogans in Arabic:

"Itbach al Yahud" (slaughter the Jews)
"Falastin balad'na w'al Yahud qalab'na" (Palestine is our land and the Jews are our dogs)
"ba ruh, ba dam, nafdeek ya Falastin" (with our soul, with our blood, we will cleanse you oh Palestine),
"al mawt al Yahud" (death to the Jews),
"Khaybar Khaybar ya Yahud, jaish-Muhammad saya'ud" (Khaybar Khaybar oh Jews, the army of Muhammad will return).

At the Back of the Hill noted,

It's interesting how much some Arabic words are almost identical to Hebrew -- Arabic is the degraded and debased version of Hebrew, apparently. It's the Ebonics of the Holy Tongue.

77 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:39:22pm

re: #71 Silhouette

Holy cow! I never even thought about that until you just pointed it out.

Excellent point.

78 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:39:26pm

re: #71 Silhouette

You always tell who the bad guys are and who the good guys are by which group the cops have their backs to, and who they are watching.

Umm, I think the whole masking of their faces on most of them is a good sign who the bad guys are.

79 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:39:34pm

re: #71 Silhouette

You always tell who the bad guys are and who the good guys are by which group the cops have their backs to, and who they are watching.

And when in doubt always assume that the ones with their faces covered are assholes.

80 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:39:39pm

There were a few people who were obviously managing (or trying to manage) the pro-Pali crowd. I wonder if they were ANSWER.

81 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:39:48pm

re: #72 BigMoo

As I mentioned earlier this week, my wife's aunt from SF was in town for the holidays and as always, tossed a few 'grenades'- like why would our son (deployed in Afghanistan) decide to join the military....my response, to keep you safe you stupid hag (well, a bit more nuanced) and why the US keeps 'propping up' Israel (because the UN created the state 60 or so years ago and are an ally).
I truly suspect they put something in the water out there...

Why any guest would choose to be insulting to her hosts is beyond me.

82 The Other Les  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:39:54pm

re: #73 FrogMarch

He'd be a two-bit pedophile forgotten in some dirty prison.

Can I suggest a time machine and .45?

83 swamprat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:40:00pm

Wife tells me that the news is reporting that most countries are supporting Israel, but that the people of most countries object.

I replied that it is spin, and that the "news" has become an opinion generating machine, and that the days of it being an information source, are long gone.

She isn't fooled.

84 Gang of One  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:40:25pm

re: #69 FrogMarch

Sure, but the Orwellian deterioration of our culture and society will certainly take a toll.

It already has and is, IMHO.

85 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:40:30pm

I just got home so if this was mentioned: Geraldo Rivera is an asshole and he has Hanan Ashrawi on FOX. Now I'm disgusted. I have been defending Fox all day, but this is unconscionable. Geraldo is an ignorant pig.

86 daledog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:40:41pm

I'm breaking out my IDF t-shirt tomorrow. I'm wearing it everywhere I go.

87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:41:05pm

re: #71 Silhouette

Smart. Congrats on the Tech win.

88 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:41:11pm

As an SF Bay Area resident (along with Zombie and various other prominent lizards), I'm just wondering if and when one of these hatefests will trigger a full-scale urban insurrection a la Los Angeles in 1992. I lived through that one, and really don't want to endure another week with a major city in flames and armed troops on the streets.

89 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:41:25pm

re: #79 Bloodnok

And when in doubt always assume that the ones with their faces covered are assholes.


What you said, or I said.

90 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:41:40pm

re: #72 BigMoo

As I mentioned earlier this week, my wife's aunt from SF was in town for the holidays and as always, tossed a few 'grenades'- like why would our son (deployed in Afghanistan) decide to join the military....my response, to keep you safe you stupid hag (well, a bit more nuanced) and why the US keeps 'propping up' Israel (because the UN created the state 60 or so years ago and are an ally).
I truly suspect they put something in the water out there...

Be more harsh on her. These jerks around here need a bigger dose of reality.

91 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:41:48pm
92 Gang of One  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:41:51pm

re: #73 FrogMarch

He'd be a two-bit pedophile forgotten in some dirty prison.

He'd be NAMBLA's poster boy.

93 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:42:15pm

re: #89 VegasRick

Isn't it illegal to have one's face covered up in public?

94 Merlot  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:42:19pm

re: #72 BigMoo

As a former war vet, thank your son and your family for his service.

95 psyop  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:42:29pm

How would the left react if it were the pro-Israeli activists violently assaulted peaceful pro-Pali activists?

'Course, this is logic, which is typically lost on the left.

96 FightingBack  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:42:46pm

Why do they cover their faces? Aren't they proud of themselves?

97 Racer X  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:42:49pm

re: #33 mikalm

Watch the woman in the video charge the barrier and try to attack the pro-Israel folks not once, but several times

I watched it again. Very interesting.

That woman was the aggressor, and attacked the person holding the Israeli flag. She then started shouting "stop, stop" while being dragged away. As the person holding the Israeli flagged was walking away she pleads with the police officer "stop them! You have to stop them! what are you doing?"

Very strange behavior indeed.

98 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:42:52pm

re: #81 goddessoftheclassroom

Yeah, she's a real 'pip'. That's PC for stupid bitch...and slightly to the left of Fidel Castro, but hey, it's family and it's Christmas-we had our own version of Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
LOL

99 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:43:00pm

For the past 60 years Palestinians have built nothing but terror, sorrow, and death. They have contributed next to nothing to mankind.

100 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:43:06pm

re: #86 daledog

I'm breaking out my IDF t-shirt tomorrow. I'm wearing it everywhere I go.

Hey - I wear my Pope Benedict tshirt every time he comes under attack for suggesting Islam is not peaceful nor tolerant.

101 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:43:16pm

re: #80 jaunte

There were a few people who were obviously managing (or trying to manage) the pro-Pali crowd. I wonder if they were ANSWER.

ANSWER was on hand, but the main organizers of Palestinians at this event were our good friends Hatem Bazian and Jess Ghannam, who were standing at the back inciting the crowd.

102 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:43:42pm

re: #93 WhiteRasta

Isn't it illegal to have one's face covered up in public?

Not if you're Cindy Sheehan. It's encouraged.

103 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:43:46pm

re: #86 daledog

I'm breaking out my IDF t-shirt tomorrow. I'm wearing it everywhere I go.

I can't wait to go on birthright and get my own IDF shirt.

I'm a big zionist in my community, and it's embarrassing that I still haven't gone :S

104 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:43:50pm

re: #98 BigMoo

Yeah, she's a real 'pip'. That's PC for stupid bitch...and slightly to the left of Fidel Castro, but hey, it's family and it's Christmas-we had our own version of Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
LOL

You graciousness was truly the spirit of family and the holiday--but that doesn't excuse her rudeness.

105 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:43:58pm

re: #85 Nevergiveup

I just got home so if this was mentioned: Geraldo Rivera is an asshole and he has Hanan Ashrawi on FOX. Now I'm disgusted. I have been defending Fox all day, but this is unconscionable. Geraldo is an ignorant pig.

Rivera described her as "a woman I've respected and admired for more than 30 years."

106 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:44:12pm

re: #101 zombie

It's hard to keep track of who's using who.

107 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:44:15pm

re: #96 FightingBack

Why do they cover their faces? Aren't they proud of themselves?

It's the whole "Look at me, I'm a rebel!" thing. Either that or they're afraid the trust fund might dry up if capitalist dad finds out.

108 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:44:16pm

re: #97 Racer X

I watched it again. Very interesting.

That woman was the aggressor, and attacked the person holding the Israeli flag. She then started shouting "stop, stop" while being dragged away. As the person holding the Israeli flagged was walking away she pleads with the police officer "stop them! You have to stop them! what are you doing?"

Very strange behavior indeed.

As Z and others noted above: she's a provocateur. She starts the fight, and then when the cops show up, she assumes the attacked/victim role. Very common tactic with these creeps.

109 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:44:18pm

re: #99 Nevergiveup

For the past 60 years Palestinians have built nothing but terror, sorrow, and death. They have contributed next to nothing to mankind.

More better.

110 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:44:30pm

re: #88 mikalm

I truly hope it doesn't come to that. Living there must be frustrating at times.
Great city, some strange ideas...

111 Lynn B.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:44:31pm

Why so many of them and so few of ... us?

Seriously. Are people who are pro-Israel afraid to demonstrate in SF?

Where was this going on and who had a permit?

112 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:44:45pm

re: #88 mikalm

As an SF Bay Area resident (along with Zombie and various other prominent lizards), I'm just wondering if and when one of these hatefests will trigger a full-scale urban insurrection a la Los Angeles in 1992. I lived through that one, and really don't want to endure another week with a major city in flames and armed troops on the streets.

Would be interesting if someone thought to perform a card check.. how many have overstayed their visit.

And definitely their welcome.

113 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:44:59pm

re: #102 Bloodnok

Oh Lord, you are correct. Every time I see the she-hag I want to jam a rusty pair of scissors into my eyes.

114 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:45:01pm

re: #93 WhiteRasta

Isn't it illegal to have one's face covered up in public?

I would think so, I say just taze em all until the mask falls off.

115 ted  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:45:01pm

Street Jihad in San Franciscostan. IMO, too few police, who seriously underestimate how violent these muhajadeen are/

116 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:45:05pm

re: #102 Bloodnok

LMAO !

117 deanyc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:45:23pm

I passed by the Palestine rally near the UN earlier today in a bus. A pathetic site, replete with large posters with fauxtography (teens with anguished expressions on their faces hurling rocks, with a fire blazing too perfectly behind them as a backdrop). Many of the signs were printed by that moronic organization, Answer Coalition. I hope most of the world is as sick and tired of the sad spectacle of a people whose leaders use them and their children as expendable pieces of trash.

118 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:45:24pm
119 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:45:36pm

re: #88 mikalm

As an SF Bay Area resident (along with Zombie and various other prominent lizards), I'm just wondering if and when one of these hatefests will trigger a full-scale urban insurrection a la Los Angeles in 1992. I lived through that one, and really don't want to endure another week with a major city in flames and armed troops on the streets.

I just don't think that there are enough Muslims in the Bay Area to start such an insurrection. They're, at most, 1% of the population around here. And as for the moonbats, they've been partly mollified by the Obama win.

I think we're safe from insurrections for a while.

120 Ben Hur  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:45:47pm

Krav effen Maga.

121 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:46:00pm

re: #105 Charles

Geraldo is a whore who I have dissed and scorned for 30 years.

122 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:46:00pm

re: #105 Charles

Rivera described her as "a woman I've respected and admired for more than 30 years."

Well I doubt he has known her that long, but then why disbelieve the man that found Capone's fortune? I admire Ma Barker more.

123 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:46:20pm

re: #71 Silhouette

You always tell who the bad guys are and who the good guys are by which group the cops have their backs to, and who they are watching.

Perfect.

124 ted  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:46:24pm

re: #88 mikalm

As an SF Bay Area resident (along with Zombie and various other prominent lizards), I'm just wondering if and when one of these hatefests will trigger a full-scale urban insurrection a la Los Angeles in 1992. I lived through that one, and really don't want to endure another week with a major city in flames and armed troops on the streets.

This is coming after January 20th.

125 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:46:26pm

re: #107 jamgarr

It's the whole "Look at me, I'm a rebel!" thing. Either that or they're afraid the trust fund might dry up if capitalist dad finds out.

Or it's done so that they can't be identified later. Paramilitary gangs from Belfast to Beirut hide behind masks so that they can terrorize urban populations with less fear of reprisal later.

126 daledog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:46:35pm

re: #100 summergurl

I need to get a Pope Benedict t-shirt. Good idea.

127 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:46:37pm

re: #109 solomonpanting

More better.

I stand corrected. Thank you.

128 The Other Les  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:46:37pm

re: #105 Charles

Rivera described her as "a woman I've respected and admired for more than 30 years."

I've held Rivera in contempt for more than 30 years.

129 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:46:55pm

re: #72 BigMoo

As I mentioned earlier this week, my wife's aunt from SF was in town for the holidays and as always, tossed a few 'grenades'- like why would our son (deployed in Afghanistan) decide to join the military....my response, to keep you safe you stupid hag (well, a bit more nuanced) and why the US keeps 'propping up' Israel (because the UN created the state 60 or so years ago and are an ally).
I truly suspect they put something in the water out there...


I assume she was staying at a hotel.

130 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:47:12pm

re: #72 BigMoo

As I mentioned earlier this week, my wife's aunt from SF was in town for the holidays and as always, tossed a few 'grenades'- like why would our son (deployed in Afghanistan) decide to join the military....my response, to keep you safe you stupid hag (well, a bit more nuanced) and why the US keeps 'propping up' Israel (because the UN created the state 60 or so years ago and are an ally).
I truly suspect they put something in the water out there...

My sister is from Seattle and last week, at a family celebration, could not resist provoking my son, who served in the IDF, by asking what he thought about Rachel Corrie and the theatrical production about her.

His response, "well I read about her in the news" instead of saying "St. Pancake was a not too bright fucked up nazi bitch who played 'chicken' in heavy equipment and lost" which would have sent Auntie Moonbat into a meltdown.

What would family reunions be like if we didn't have moonbat relatives to laugh at and make fun of?

131 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:47:19pm

re: #111 Lynn B.

Why so many of them and so few of ... us?

Seriously. Are people who are pro-Israel afraid to demonstrate in SF?

Where was this going on and who had a permit?

It's called a job.

132 chicken kiev  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:47:29pm

In Athens and Paris the protests have already become more violent, with Greek protesters throwing molotov cocktails and French protesters burning cars.

So SF hasn't escalated to that level yet.

YET.

133 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:47:36pm

re: #121 WhiteRasta

A pathetic guy who takes himself FAR too seriously...

134 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:47:37pm

They also had a pretty sizable demonstration in Kansas City as well...[Link: www.kctv5.com...] Click on the local tab to watch. There is almost no balance to this report whatsoever. Moonbattery is everywhere it seems.

135 Gang of One  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:47:37pm

re: #107 jamgarr

It's the whole "Look at me, I'm a rebel!" thing. Either that or they're afraid the trust fund might dry up if capitalist dad finds out.

I dunno 'bout that. Like the Zapatistas in Mexico [subcommandante Marcos], they are pretend rebels and revolutionaries, but authentic cowards and bullies.

136 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:47:47pm

re: #121 WhiteRasta

Geraldo is a whore who I have dissed and scorned for 30 years.

Watch your language!

It should be "..WHOM I have dissed and scorned for 30 years."

/

137 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:47:55pm

re: #103 Joo-LiZ

And thanks to Joo-Liz for help getting the video in this report!

138 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:48:19pm

I love Juice!

139 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:48:20pm

re: #131 VegasRick

It's called a job.

Funny you should say that.

In the full version of the video, one of the pro-Israeli's is asked that, and he responds "Most of us are working... *gestures at the palis* these guys are all taking the day off school"

140 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:48:45pm

re: #105 Charles

She used to date Peter Jennings if I recall correctly.

141 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:48:52pm

re: #130 Alouette

My sister is from Seattle and last week, at a family celebration, could not resist provoking my son, who served in the IDF, by asking what he thought about Rachel Corrie and the theatrical production about her.

His response, "well I read about her in the news" instead of saying "St. Pancake was a not too bright fucked up nazi bitch who played 'chicken' in heavy equipment and lost" which would have sent Auntie Moonbat into a meltdown.

What would family reunions be like if we didn't have moonbat relatives to laugh at and make fun of?

It's basically 50-50 that at any family gathering, I'll get so disgusted with the liberals that I end up eating dinner with dog on the stoop outside. Personally I like his company better anyway.

142 PayBackTime  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:48:55pm

I'll bet anything that these "marchers for peace" cheer upon hearing of the deaths of American soldiers.

Zombies video documents the fifth column in the US.

Instead of wearing Brown Shirts, these nazitional socialists wear Kaffiyas.

The enemy of the US Consitution, pluralism, Freedom of Religon, Freedom of Speech, is here and marching on the Streets of San Francisco.

143 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:48:56pm

re: #135 Gang of One

I dunno 'bout that. Like the Zapatistas in Mexico [subcommandante Marcos], they are pretend rebels and revolutionaries, but authentic cowards and bullies.


Thought that's what I said

144 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:49:01pm

re: #87 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thanks. Luckily, I had some friends email me taunts on Wednesday, so now I get to email them back and gloat.

145 chicken kiev  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:49:04pm

In other news, Bill Ayers is now blogging about education at HuffPo,

146 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:49:22pm

Remember, they're just there to support refugees who live in refugee camps and wouldn't have anything to eat or wear if it weren't for the UN. And anyway it's all the fault of the Juice. And those greenhouses in Gaza had to be be destroyed because, well...umm...because they...you know, because they were built by Juice!

And the rockets, well...they're really just big firecrackers, and anyway no one got hurt except a few Juice...and...well, they...it's just self-defense and legitimate resistance against...you know, repression and stuff. And anyway what would you do?

/channeling moonbat, reaching for aspirin

147 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:49:24pm

ANSWER another Marxist front group.

International ANSWER (an acronym for "Act Now to Stop War and End Racism") is run by Ramsey Clark's International Action Center, which is staffed by members of the Marxist-Leninist Workers World Party (WWP).

Fellow Travelers popping up everywhere.

Damn, I hate fucking commies.

148 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:49:39pm

re: #105 Charles

Rivera described her as "a woman I've respected and admired for more than 30 years."

*spit*

149 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:49:44pm

re: #137 zombie

My great pleasure to be able to help in any way with one of your reports.

Quite a few lizards jumped to your aid when you put out a call, I just got to be the lucky one you spotted.

150 ted  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:49:45pm

re: #119 zombie

The alternative is that they can be empowered by the Obama win or angered if he isn't dhimmi enough.

151 Lynn B.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:49:49pm

re: #76 Gang of One

It's interesting how much some Arabic words are almost identical to Hebrew -- Arabic is the degraded and debased version of Hebrew, apparently. It's the Ebonics of the Holy Tongue.

Arabic and Hebrew words are similar for the same reasons Spanish, Italian and French words are similar. The language evolved from the same root. In the latter case, Latin. In the former case, something that's called Proto-Semitic but that's long been lost, apparently.

152 broomer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:49:53pm

Can someone please SUBTITLE those videos! Deaf people, especially Bush-hating Jewish Deaf people are NOT aware of this danger on USA/Canada's soil!

The "Jews in Oven" videotape needs to be subtitled!

The chanting at #15 needs to be subtitled!

C'mon guys, please! I wouldn't be asking this if I was deaf. I would gladly volunteer to do it myself!

Even Pat Condell is doing it:
[Link: dotsub.com...]

There's lots of people with hearing problem or can't hear the chanting.

153 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:50:01pm

re: #129 summergurl

Naw, we tolerate her. She just doesn't understand why we in CO still believe in defense and service to our country and support of our allies. It's OK, I made sure Fox news and Kudlow was on most of the time....

154 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:50:01pm

re: #103 Joo-LiZ

I can't wait to go on birthright and get my own IDF shirt.

I'm a big zionist in my community, and it's embarrassing that I still haven't gone :S


Get your pro-Israel T-shirts and bumper stickers at the Zionist Mall, now!

155 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:50:11pm

re: #119 zombie

I just don't think that there are enough Muslims in the Bay Area to start such an insurrection. They're, at most, 1% of the population around here. And as for the moonbats, they've been partly mollified by the Obama win.

I think we're safe from insurrections for a while.

On the other hand, there's the phenomenon of "the revolution of rising expectations." Often things get craziest when there are signs of Hope and Change on the horizon. Remember that the urban upheavals of the 1960s took place during the administration of a Democratic president who had just signed into law the biggest and most wide-reaching civil-rights and "anti-poverty" bills in American history.

156 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:50:23pm

re: #136 goddessoftheclassroom

Damn! Thanks for the correction, Goddess.

157 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:50:44pm

re: #105 Charles

Rivera described her as "a woman I've respected and admired for more than 30 years."

Wasn't she Peter Jennings' girlfriend?

158 Lively  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:50:44pm

re: #88 mikalm

As an SF Bay Area resident (along with Zombie and various other prominent lizards), I'm just wondering if and when one of these hatefests will trigger a full-scale urban insurrection a la Los Angeles in 1992. I lived through that one, and really don't want to endure another week with a major city in flames and armed troops on the streets.

Funny how it's the liberal bastian city places that have these crazyfests. You don't see that kind of crap in my (Republican) county.

159 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:50:44pm

I would bet many of those screaming Free Free whatever wouldn't know what Palestine is if it bit them in the peace scarf.

160 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:50:45pm

re: #147 jcm

ANSWER another Marxist front group.

Fellow Travelers popping up everywhere.

Damn, I hate fucking commies.

but commies and death cult eternal victim apologists make such sublime bedfellows.

161 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:50:46pm

re: #136 goddessoftheclassroom

Watch your language!

It should be "..WHOM I have dissed and scorned for 30 years."

/

I know a lot of "working girls" that I respect much more than I respect Whoreraldo.

162 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:51:04pm

re: #141 Nevergiveup

It's basically 50-50 that at any family gathering, I'll get so disgusted with the liberals that I end up eating dinner with dog on the stoop outside. Personally I like his company better anyway.

Again, why people, especially family, insist on bringing up politics in social situations where people have different views perplexes me. It is SO TACKY.

163 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:51:05pm

re: #92 Gang of One

No doubt.

164 Lynn B.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:51:11pm

re: #131 VegasRick

It's called a job.

Sorry? A job? Is that a response to my question(s)?

165 Lively  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:51:20pm

I find these videos scary.

166 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:51:41pm

I haven't seen hanan Ashwari on TV in ages, only heard her. Does anyone know if she is sick or something. Serious question.

167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:51:42pm

re: #149 Joo-LiZ

Great job Liz! Be careful out there, please.

168 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:51:53pm

re: #132 chicken kiev

In Athens and Paris the protests have already become more violent, with Greek protesters throwing molotov cocktails and French protesters burning cars.

So SF hasn't escalated to that level yet.

YET.

January 2009 may end up being like May '68 -- but uglier and with much less sex.

169 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:52:10pm

re: #156 WhiteRasta

Damn! Thanks for the correction, Goddess.

I was just teasing, you know!

170 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:52:13pm
pro-Israel demonstrators were attacked by Palestinians wearing peace scarves

So what's the problem?

/it's not like the trust fund jihadi wannabes, in their J. Crew kaffiyas, were chanting "from the river to the sea" or anything

171 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:52:20pm

re: #82 The Other Les

Can I suggest a time machine and .45?

a time machine big enough for all the folks who would like to hang him? big machine.

172 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:52:28pm

re: #108 mikalm

As Z and others noted above: she's a provocateur. She starts the fight, and then when the cops show up, she assumes the attacked/victim role. Very common tactic with these creeps.

Didn't Zombie have a video from the DNC convention of a Code Pink bitch using the same tactic and then getting righteously shoved by the cop? In fact that Zombie offered to testify on behalf of the cop?

173 Maui Girl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:52:31pm

Palestinians wearing peace scarves. Well, that's an oxymoronic statement if I've ever heard/read one.

174 Render  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:52:31pm

re: #111 Lynn B.

That would be statistically related to the total situation.

We're outnumbered 200 to 1.

We have been for quite some time.

===

Minimum 200 rounds at all times.

CALM
BLUE
OCEANS,
R

175 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:52:32pm

re: #139 Joo-LiZ

Funny you should say that.

In the full version of the video, one of the pro-Israeli's is asked that, and he responds "Most of us are working... *gestures at the palis* these guys are all taking the day off school"

Funny, but true.

176 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:52:39pm

re: #15 zombie

"Falastin balad'na w'al Yahud qalab'na" (Palestine is our land and the Jews are our dogs)

Seems the dogs are kicking the paleostinians asses all over Gaza. Good riddance, muslim swine. Rot in Hell.

177 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:53:02pm

re: #167 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OH no, lol... I didn't film it.

I'm on the other coast in another country.

I just helped get the video from those who DID film it (KTVU)

178 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:53:04pm

re: #162 goddessoftheclassroom

I was always told from childhood that one never brings up politics, sex or religion at the dinner table.

179 Lynn B.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:53:17pm

re: #139 Joo-LiZ

Funny you should say that.

In the full version of the video, one of the pro-Israeli's is asked that, and he responds "Most of us are working... *gestures at the palis* these guys are all taking the day off school"

Thank you. Still doesn't really seem to explain the great disparity in numbers though.

180 Gang of One  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:53:20pm

re: #143 jamgarr

Thought that's what I said

Yeah, you did. I guess I wasn't thinking ... my bad. Did not mean to be a jerk, if I came across that way.

181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:53:37pm

re: #177 Joo-LiZ

Whew. Was wondering what the hell you were thinking.

182 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:54:03pm

re: #178 WhiteRasta

I was always told from childhood that one never brings up politics, sex or religion at the dinner table.

So what in G-d's name do you talk about?

183 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:54:05pm

re: #168 zombie

January 2009 may end up being like May '68 -- but uglier and with much less sex.

Instead of The Summer of Love, The Winter of Discontent.

184 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:54:07pm

re: #141 Nevergiveup

It's basically 50-50 that at any family gathering, I'll get so disgusted with the liberals that I end up eating dinner with dog on the stoop outside. Personally I like his company better anyway.

50-50?!?! I should be so lucky. At my family gatherings, it's 100% moonbat, 0% sanity. (Even I have to stay in stealth mode.)

When your own father says that the United States is worse than North Korea, you know there's no point in continuing to speak.

185 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:54:16pm

re: #178 WhiteRasta

I was always told from childhood that one never brings up politics, sex or religion at the dinner table.

EXACTLY!

186 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:54:34pm

re: #181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whew. Was wondering what the hell you were thinking.

I think it was full fledged press with a press identification card and everything. Probably gave some portion of protection.

These Pali's WANT there message broadcast.

187 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:54:35pm

re: #169 goddessoftheclassroom

Heck yes. Glad to have my Henglish corrected, all the same.

188 ted  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:54:45pm

re: #182 Nevergiveup

So what in G-d's name do you talk about?

Juice.

189 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:54:45pm

re: #130 Alouette

EXACTLY ! It gives everyone a laugh after the fact...

190 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:54:51pm

re: #164 Lynn B.

Sorry? A job? Is that a response to my question(s)?

re: #139 Joo-LiZ

Funny you should say that.

In the full version of the video, one of the pro-Israeli's is asked that, and he responds "Most of us are working... *gestures at the palis* these guys are all taking the day off school"

It was.

191 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:55:12pm

re: #184 zombie

50-50?!?! I should be so lucky. At my family gatherings, it's 100% moonbat, 0% sanity. (Even I have to stay in stealth mode.)

When your own father says that the United States is worse than North Korea, you know there's no point in continuing to speak.

Well my dad spent 20 years in the Army so if he were still alive I know he would be on my side.

192 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:55:17pm

re: #184 zombie

"the United States is worse than North Korea..."

Wow, that's a serious disconnect from reality. Sorry about that.

193 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:55:18pm

re: #184 zombie

50-50?!?! I should be so lucky. At my family gatherings, it's 100% moonbat, 0% sanity. (Even I have to stay in stealth mode.)

When your own father says that the United States is worse than North Korea, you know there's no point in continuing to speak.

I wonder what your father would say if he knew you were Zombie.

194 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:55:36pm

re: #184 zombie

50-50?!?! I should be so lucky. At my family gatherings, it's 100% moonbat, 0% sanity. (Even I have to stay in stealth mode.)

When your own father says that the United States is worse than North Korea, you know there's no point in continuing to speak.

{Zombie}

You have my sympathy.

195 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:55:39pm
196 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:55:40pm

re: #182 Nevergiveup

My drunken Uncle Robert.... (Passed out on the couch)

197 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:55:45pm

re: #162 goddessoftheclassroom

Again, why people, especially family, insist on bringing up politics in social situations where people have different views perplexes me. It is SO TACKY.

so true. and I think it's universally true that the liberal/leftista assume that everyone at the table agrees with their point of view. Which is why they feel so free to babble on. (and on and on...)

198 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:55:49pm

re: #180 Gang of One

Yeah, you did. I guess I wasn't thinking ... my bad. Did not mean to be a jerk, if I came across that way.


No prob

199 chicken kiev  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:56:03pm

Here's a link to Bill Ayers on HuffPo.

In his post, he says he wishes he could appoint Amy Goodman as Press Secretary.

Hooray for communists and bombers! Hooray for the next four years!

200 winston06  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:56:09pm

How did these anti-Semites get in here?

201 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:56:41pm

re: #162 goddessoftheclassroom

Again, why people, especially family, insist on bringing up politics in social situations where people have different views perplexes me. It is SO TACKY.

In my experience, it's because they want affirmation. They want families, friends, and ultimately the entire world to second their delusions and bugaboos, and act as their support group. It's the application of the group-therapy model to all human relations -- a common phenomenon in the West, especially among educated neurotics.

202 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:56:50pm

re: #150 ted

The alternative is that they can be empowered by the Obama win or angered if he isn't dhimmi enough.

Yes, Obama Disillusionment bumper stickers are already starting to crop up.

203 Gang of One  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:57:04pm

re: #200 winston06

How did these anti-Semites get in here?

Other anti-Semites let them in.

204 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:57:25pm

re: #184 zombie

50-50?!?! I should be so lucky. At my family gatherings, it's 100% moonbat, 0% sanity. (Even I have to stay in stealth mode.)

When your own father says that the United States is worse than North Korea, you know there's no point in continuing to speak.

Is he that crazy? I feel for you.

205 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:57:31pm

re: #199 chicken kiev

Here's a link to Bill Ayers on HuffPo.

In his post, he says he wishes he could appoint Amy Goodman as Press Secretary.

Hooray for communists and bombers! Hooray for the next four years!

Are comments shut off? (Sorry, won't click the link)

206 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:57:40pm

re: #201 mikalm

Nihilism, in short.

207 Zimriel  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:57:46pm

re: #76 Gang of One

It's interesting how much some Arabic words are almost identical to Hebrew -- Arabic is the degraded and debased version of Hebrew, apparently. It's the Ebonics of the Holy Tongue.

That comment was as insulting as it is ignorant. Arabic maintains numerous rules of old West Semitic that are lost in Hebrew. As one obvious instance, Arabic bint versus Hebrew bat: it is easier to explain bint to bat than the reverse. By your logic Hebrew speakers "debased" the names of their own daughters. So let's not put value judgements on linguistic changes, please.

The Arabic of the Qur'an, now, is fascinating (and I'm fine with insulting the Qur'an...). Muslims say it's the purest form of Arabic because, a priori, the Qur'an is perfect so shaddap I KEEL YOU! But in actual fact many suras, including the longest and most important ones, are stuffed with lootings from the Aramaic language, particularly religious vocabulary. (Ibn Warraq's "What the Koran Really Says" has some good articles on this.) Why is that? Well, pagan Arabs wouldn't come up with these concepts by themselves and had to ask Syriac-speaking Christians and Aramaic-speaking Jews what all this stuff meant.

208 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:58:06pm

Everyone in my house, at my parents' house, all our siblings (husband's and mine), sibling's spouses, nieces, and nephews, are all 100% sane. Not an Obama voter in sight.

/gloat

209 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:58:07pm

re: #155 mikalm

On the other hand, there's the phenomenon of "the revolution of rising expectations." Often things get craziest when there are signs of Hope and Change on the horizon. Remember that the urban upheavals of the 1960s took place during the administration of a Democratic president who had just signed into law the biggest and most wide-reaching civil-rights and "anti-poverty" bills in American history.

True, true.

I have a completely sane friend who thinks the Obama era will indeed bring race riots.

210 ted  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:58:22pm

re: #194 goddessoftheclassroom

{Zombie}

You have my sympathy.

re: #202 zombie

Yes, Obama Disillusionment bumper stickers are already starting to crop up.

We're going to see lots of those......Can't wait.

211 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:58:30pm

re: #208 Silhouette

Everyone in my house, at my parents' house, all our siblings (husband's and mine), sibling's spouses, nieces, and nephews, are all 100% sane. Not an Obama voter in sight.

/gloat

Are you a Palin?

212 richiep  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:58:37pm

These types of leftist/muslim/anarchist demonstrations will continue to grow both in size and violence until they are forcefully stopped. As long as people are allowed to get away with thuggery they will push harder in the future.

Like bullies and degenerates everywhere; until someone stops them we will continue to be victims. Look at Europe as the current example. No one of significance is stepping in to stop the hatred therefore it will continue.

All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing. Unfortunately we are going to allow it to break before we fix it.

213 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:58:51pm

re: #197 FrogMarch

So true, my wife's aunt was aghast that no one else at the table could agree to her moonbat points of view-it was a fun evening-really.

214 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:58:54pm

re: #209 zombie

True, true.

I have a completely sane friend who thinks the Obama era will indeed bring race riots.

He can't be that sane?

215 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:59:05pm

re: #202 zombie

As I refrained from talking politics (or sex for that matter) with my out there leftist in-laws while in Vermont, I couldn't get an inside feel for this. But wow was it tempting. The MIL lost her Senate run. (snicker). Oh sorry, didn't mean for that to be out loud.

216 DEZes  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:59:34pm

And they wonder we we cling to our guns, Frigging moonbats!

217 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:59:39pm

re: #153 BigMoo

Naw, we tolerate her. She just doesn't understand why we in CO still believe in defense and service to our country and support of our allies. It's OK, I made sure Fox news and Kudlow was on most of the time....


Good for you - it's the little things that annoy them...lol

218 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:59:41pm

re: #172 Alouette

Didn't Zombie have a video from the DNC convention of a Code Pink bitch using the same tactic and then getting righteously shoved by the cop? In fact that Zombie offered to testify on behalf of the cop?

In fact, that cop was recently absolved of all wrongdoing, because of my video! About 10 days ago.

219 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:59:44pm

re: #85 Nevergiveup

I just got home so if this was mentioned: Geraldo Rivera is an asshole and he has Hanan Ashrawi on FOX. Now I'm disgusted. I have been defending Fox all day, but this is unconscionable. Geraldo is an ignorant pig.

I half expected to see him standing in the streets of Gaza with a dead child in his arms crying.

220 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:59:57pm

re: #197 FrogMarch

so true. and I think it's universally true that the liberal/leftista assume that everyone at the table agrees with their point of view. Which is why they feel so free to babble on. (and on and on...)

I think you're right.
I find that when I do speak up and say, "Let's not discuss politics." they then either 1) want to know why not or 2) say I "take things too seriously."

I was at a church meeting a few weeks ago when a moonbat said, "It would be boring if we all thought alike."

I said, "That's nonsense. Life would be so much easier if we all thought alike; it's just not possible."

It actually shut her up for a minute.

Sadly, the moonbats have taken over the direction of that church, so I left to join a more traditional Anglican parish.

221 ted  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:00:06pm

"
When your own father says that the United States is worse than North Korea, you know there's no point in continuing to speak."

Sounds like your Dad knows my brother.

222 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:00:40pm

Hamas taking on the targets they can hit:


Fatah officials in Ramallah told The Jerusalem Post that Hamas militiamen had been assaulting many Fatah activists since the beginning of the operation last Saturday. They said at least 75 activists were shot in the legs while others had their hands broken.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
223 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:00:56pm

Were the protesters calling to free Palestine from Hamas? I agree!

224 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:02pm

re: #184 zombie

50-50?!?! I should be so lucky. At my family gatherings, it's 100% moonbat, 0% sanity. (Even I have to stay in stealth mode.)

When your own father says that the United States is worse than North Korea, you know there's no point in continuing to speak.

The only reason that my family gatherings are "fair and balanced" is because I have 9 kids!

225 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:13pm

re: #219 njdhockeyfan

I half expected to see him standing in the streets of Gaza with a dead child in his arms crying.

Well he is a coward also, so if he were in the Middle East, he would be safely ensconced on the Israeli side for sure.

226 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:15pm
227 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:22pm

Hamas special is starting on Fox News.

228 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:23pm

re: #191 Nevergiveup

Well my dad spent 20 years in the Army so if he were still alive I know he would be on my side.

My dad is a veteran of two wars and spent decades in the military.

Then he went insane.

229 Gang of One  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:27pm

re: #207 Zimriel

I am an ignorant man, Zim. But that can be corrected. I see you like Joy Division.

230 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:29pm

re: #204 mikalm

Is he that crazy? I feel for you.

I suppose I should also mention that I can't ever see my Dad saying such a thing...probably because he fought against real North Koreans in '51-53, and got a first-hand look at true totalitarianism in action.

231 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:35pm

re: #222 jaunte

Terrorist killing terrorists.

Gotta love it.

232 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:36pm

re: #221 ted

"
When your own father says that the United States is worse than North Korea, you know there's no point in continuing to speak."

Sounds like your Dad knows my brother.

And my sister.

233 pegcity  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:36pm

re: #220 goddessoftheclassroom

i have a great way to shut up atheists, they always love to ask you if you believe in god so they can go on some tirade, so when asked i respond the same way everytime, i say i don't not believe in god.

shuts em up real quick

234 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:42pm

re: #217 summergurl

Yes, it truly is... She kept asking for PBS and I politely ignored her.

235 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:01:57pm

re: #223 Hengineer

Were the protesters calling to free Palestine from Hamas? I agree!

Brilliant!

BRILLIANT!

Up Ding 4 U

236 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:02:01pm

re: #222 jaunte

We shall now all hear outrage as to this violence against Muslims from CAIR, right?

237 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:02:01pm

re: #193 Joo-LiZ

I wonder what your father would say if he knew you were Zombie.

I doubt he would ever speak to me again.

238 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:02:19pm

re: #170 Killian Bundy

So what's the problem?

/it's not like the trust fund jihadi wannabes, in their J. Crew kaffiyas, were chanting "from the river to the sea" or anything


Bet all of them are not trust fund babies, would be interesting if someone ID'ed them.

239 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:02:29pm

re: #224 Alouette

I stand in awe of you!

240 FightingBack  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:03:03pm

re: #237 zombie

I doubt he would ever speak to me again.

That explains a lot (sadly.)

241 sngnsgt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:03:09pm

Bad Moonbat Craziness in San Francisco

/there, fixed

242 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:03:14pm

re: #208 Silhouette

Everyone in my house, at my parents' house, all our siblings (husband's and mine), sibling's spouses, nieces, and nephews, are all 100% sane. Not an Obama voter in sight.

/gloat

Same here. The old lefties in my family are all dead and buried and I "trained" the rest.

243 Render  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:03:25pm

Would somebody please adopt Zombie?

CHARLES,
R

244 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:03:25pm

re: #228 zombie

My dad is a veteran of two wars and spent decades in the military.

Then he went insane.

Shell shocked? Just kidding, but what got to him?

245 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:03:39pm

re: #199 chicken kiev

Here's a link to Bill Ayers on HuffPo.

In his post, he says he wishes he could appoint Amy Goodman as Press Secretary.

Excuse me while I blow chunks in the toilet.

246 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:03:56pm

re: #178 WhiteRasta

I was always told from childhood that one never brings up politics, sex or religion at the dinner table.

Which is why, though I love them, visits to the in laws are pure torture.

Shallower topics and conversations one has never endured...

247 soccerdad  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:04:00pm

re: #56 notutopia

This is reaching past verbal protest. This group is physically aggressive. I fear that the Israel embassy
protest will be a fists to cuff encounter.
This is getting out of accepted bounds for the peaceful legal range of protesting.

For the Jews living in this country, I'm glad you have the right to arm yourselves. Please consider the option. Reading about some of these 'protests', it has me spooked too.

248 Lynn B.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:04:13pm

re: #195 Iron Fist

Most people on the Right have jobs and families, so they don't have the time and money it takes to be a professional protestor. These kind of things take some organization and funds to pull off a meaningful protest. I'd be really interested in seeing where the funding for this came from. Where does the Stalinist front group International ANSWER get their funding?

And then there is the possibility of violent confrontations like this. In places like San Francisco, you can pretty well trust the police to ignore what the Leftists do, and to drop the hammer on people from the Right for any infraction. Outside of the Left Cost, that wouldn't be the case, but how much media attention can you get even if you get a thousand protestors is, say, Nashville?

If the media don't support your cause, the best you can hope for is a condecending blurb in the middle of the Local section of the local paper. You won't get any National coverage unless you fuck up and make your side look very bad.

Right or left, there are supporters of Israel with jobs and there are supporters of Israel without jobs. (I do realize that more supporters of Israel tend to lean right but not all by any means.) In Philadelphia, pro-Israel demonstrations attract a fair number of people, many of whom have jobs. They, you know, take an hour off and then go back to work.

What they don't do is go roaming the streets looking for anti-Israel nutjobs to pick a fight with. It appears that's what this "peace scarf" crowd was doing here. Sick. Very very sick.

249 ted  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:04:19pm

re: #232 Nevergiveup

And my sister.

FDS: Family Derangement Syndrome

250 chicken kiev  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:04:29pm

205 Bloodnok

Are comments shut off?

No -- there are comments and they are all extremely supportive. People are saying stuff like, "Mr. Ayers, you are my idol" and "You should be Secretary of Education," in all seriousness.

In his post, he also says his wife (and fellow terrorist) Bernardine Dohrn should be appointed Attorney General.

251 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:04:32pm

re: #200 winston06

How did these anti-Semites get in here?

Most are native-born Americans, the children of Arab immigrants who came here in the '60s and '70s.

252 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:04:58pm

re: #211 Nevergiveup

Are you a Palin?

That made me laugh, because we share our family name with a VERY famous moonbat.

253 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:05:06pm

re: #237 zombie

I doubt he would ever speak to me again.

That's sad. My Pops still adheres to the HST/JFK Cold-War Liberal politics of his younger years, and we get into arguments sometimes, but he'd never disown me over something as ultimately petty as ideological disagreements.

254 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:05:18pm

re: #213 BigMoo

So true, my wife's aunt was aghast that no one else at the table could agree to her moonbat points of view-it was a fun evening-really.

A friend of mine is working on a thesis about the phenomenon that people on the "left" feel free to opine openly about their politics with the assumption that everyone around them is in total agreement, while people who are not "left" tend to keep quiet.

255 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:05:54pm

re: #228 zombie

re: #246 Oh no...Sand People!

I dunno, I'd hate to be talking about sex with my in-laws.....

256 ted  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:05:54pm

"Would somebody please adopt Zombie?"

Or at lest put him in foster care..........

257 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:05:56pm

re: #250 chicken kiev

Wonderful that he feels he can crawl out from under his rock and spew his hate in public again.

258 bosforus  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:06:03pm
Bad Craziness in San Francisco


Ironic that a city that seems to pride itself on tolerance and diversity tends to host some of the most intolerant in the world.

259 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:06:07pm

re: #208 Silhouette

LOL-my sister-in-law's daughter (Univ student) confessed during the Christmas dinner political debacle that she voted for Obama...her mom and dad were a bit disappointed, but gracious about it...

260 alexknyc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:06:31pm

re: #46 PayBackTime

I DEMAND JUSTICE for the Jews of Khaybar.

If Mohammed were alive today, he would be facing trial for War Crimes in the Hague.

No he wouldn't.

The UN: "It's just Jews."

261 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:06:46pm

re: #255 WhiteRasta

Sex with your in-laws. ewwww. I wouldn't talk about it either.

262 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:07:00pm

re: #255 WhiteRasta

re: #246 Oh no...Sand People!

I dunno, I'd hate to be talking about sex with my in-laws.....

At this point...it would actually be a welcome...

263 ted  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:07:19pm

"How did these anti-Semites get in here?"

Same way Obama did........

264 swamprat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:07:21pm

re: #219 njdhockeyfan

I half expected to see him standing in the streets of Gaza with a dead child in his arms crying.

With his luck, the baby would turn out to be only sleeping, awaken, ruin his clothes, mother would hit him with a bottle or a rock, police arrest him for kidnapping.....
He is fun to watch. I like him. He can be a moron, but he is an honest moron. He is not spewing lies to support an agenda. He is merely....Geraldo!

265 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:07:26pm

This ex-hamas guy who converted to Christianity, where does he live---CA? I can't believe he is showing his face on TV. I hope he has body guards and good health insurance?

266 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:07:46pm

re: #259 BigMoo

You know, I expect that. When you are young and carefree you are liberal. Then you go to work for a bit, then you finally get a "real" job. Then you see your paycheck, zero in on the taxes and TADAAAA conservatism starts to take a hold of you.

This only works if you don't join the peace corp, though.

267 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:08:04pm
268 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:08:14pm

re: #261 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sex with your in-laws. ewwww. I wouldn't talk about it either.

Why maybe they are from the back woods?
/

269 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:08:14pm

re: #237 zombie

I doubt he would ever speak to me again.

Zombie, {Zombie}, I stand in AWE of you.

270 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:08:17pm

re: #250 chicken kiev

If anything would 'start the revolution', it would be the inclusion of those two pieces of human debris being selected for a cabinet level positon....

271 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:08:20pm

re: #259 BigMoo

My #1 daughter voted for the Green Party up here in Canada.

At least she voted.

She is doing a degree in environmental sciences, so I did not cut her out of the family fortune.......

272 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:08:24pm

re: #147 jcm

Damn, I hate fucking commies.

Hmm...maybe you should stop dating them then? ;^)

273 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:08:50pm

re: #204 mikalm

Is he that crazy? I feel for you.

Worse, actually. Even I am shocked at what he believes. What makes it especially bizarre is that he is a long-time veteran and once used to be quite savvy about the world. A few years ago he got a computer for the first time in his life, and now he believes every crazed lie and conspiracy theory on the Internet. He has no "internal Web nonsense filter," being too old to have developed one. By chance, he fell into the moobatopshere online, and he been plummeting into the spiraling madness ever since.

274 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:08:54pm

re: #200 winston06

How did these anti-Semites get in here?

They sound like they were born here.

275 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:08:57pm

re: #263 ted

"How did these anti-Semites get in here?"

Same way Obama did........

Obama wouldn't last 5 minutes in here. 45 seconds in the Lounge.

276 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:09:02pm

re: #238 summergurl

Bet all of them are not trust fund babies, would be interesting if someone ID'ed them.


/well, they didn't seem particularly dangerous either, stupid ass white college kids and the usual San Francsico riff raff

277 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:09:26pm

re: #267 solomonpanting

Arabs demand UN call for immediate cease-fire

Right on cue.
F*@k'em all.

This ain't Little League. There's no 10-run-rule.

278 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:09:56pm

re: #266 ArmyWife

Yeah, I recall I was anti-capital punishment as a univ. student. Funny how a career in law enforcement-and paying taxes changes one's perspective...

279 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:09:59pm

re: #267 solomonpanting

Arabs demand UN call for immediate cease-fire

Right on cue.
F*@k'em all.

Yeah, now that the Israelis are kicking ass they are all for a cease fire. Burn them down. Go Israel!

280 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:10:09pm

re: #245 zombie

Excuse me while I blow chunks in the toilet.

/bring your camera phone

281 USBeast  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:10:14pm

re: #265 Nevergiveup

This ex-hamas guy who converted to Christianity, where does he live---CA? I can't believe he is showing his face on TV. I hope he has body guards and good health insurance?

He's the son of a Hamas founder. God bless him and keep him safe.

282 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:10:19pm

re: #220 goddessoftheclassroom

It's taxing and stressful having to tip toe through the lefty mind set. You did the right thing. Life is too short.

283 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:10:20pm

re: #193 Joo-LiZ

I wonder what your father would say if he knew you were Zombie.

I wonder what zombie's father would say if the moron ACTUALLY went to North Korea.

284 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:10:24pm

re: #267 solomonpanting

Arabs demand UN call for immediate cease-fire

Right on cue.
F*@k'em all.

They can a have a cease fire anytime they want.
Put down their weapons, raise a white flag, and show the IDF every single rocket, AK and round in their possession.

Simple isn't it.

285 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:10:32pm
286 Zimriel  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:10:44pm

re: #220 goddessoftheclassroom

I think you're right.
I find that when I do speak up and say, "Let's not discuss politics." they then either 1) want to know why not or 2) say I "take things too seriously."

I was in an Arabic class in which the teacher wondered why the Jews who dealt with the Holocaust would subject the Palestinians to "the wall". I piped up and suggested that we move on to the actual lesson. Next day a nice elderly Englishwoman came up to me and asked, "why did you speak up, are you Jewish?"

I guess the moral of the story is, be glad your peers aren't European.

287 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:10:45pm

re: #237 zombie

I doubt he would ever speak to me again.

Doesn't seem like you'd be missing much.

288 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:11:13pm

re: #277 Bloodnok

This ain't Little League. There's no 10-run-rule.

Good analogy.

289 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:11:18pm

Sick. Scary.

290 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:11:27pm
291 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:11:40pm

re: #267 solomonpanting

Arabs demand UN call for immediate cease-fire

Right on cue.
F*@k'em all.

Maximum Fuck Them.

292 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:12:18pm

re: #228 zombie

My dad is a veteran of two wars and spent decades in the military.

Then he went insane.

I'm curious. What caused your father's shift in thinking?

293 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:12:26pm

re: #273 zombie

Worse, actually. Even I am shocked at what he believes. What makes it especially bizarre is that he is a long-time veteran and once used to be quite savvy about the world. A few years ago he got a computer for the first time in his life, and now he believes every crazed lie and conspiracy theory on the Internet. He has no "internal Web nonsense filter," being too old to have developed one. By chance, he fell into the moobatopshere online, and he been plummeting into the spiraling madness ever since.

I'm sorry to hear that.

That's the problem with the blogosphere. As much as I hail the dawn of "new media" and responsible "citizen-journalism", unless I point people to the right sites -- the one's with proper citations and references and reliable sources -- they can inevitably find evidence of every conspiracy they can imagine.

294 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:12:45pm

re: #266 ArmyWife

You know, I expect that. When you are young and carefree you are liberal. Then you go to work for a bit, then you finally get a "real" job. Then you see your paycheck, zero in on the taxes and TADAAAA conservatism starts to take a hold of you.

This only works if you don't join the peace corp, though.

Seems to be the case mostly with women I think? I'm not completely generalizing but my sister was the same way, at UCLA she went liberal, until she saw Gray Davis thumping for Al Gore and she was like...That's what the Democrats are? ugh!

Not only that she actually READ what the parties were about, she's now a hardcore conservative.

However from my own experience, I never really became liberal at all, just a bit conservative, and now as I earn more and more money I'm starting to get almost libertarian, mainly because Conservatives don't seem to be worried about less spending/less taxes anymore.

295 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:12:56pm

re: #279 SurferDoc

Yeah, now that the Israelis are kicking ass they are all for a cease fire. Burn them down. Go Israel!

They're like the kid who hits another kid and then hides behind mama's skirt.

296 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:13:02pm

re: #271 WhiteRasta

Of course not-it's like I told my wife's aunt-if I have my way, she'll always have the right to express her views...I also said I hope she'll fight just as hard to protect MY right to express my views...she just looked at me blankly. They just don't get it...

297 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:13:03pm

re: #251 zombie

Most are native-born Americans, the children of Arab immigrants who came here in the '60s and '70s.

and they probably attended our universities...

298 Village Idiot's Apprentice  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:13:13pm

re: #219 njdhockeyfan


Not him...but Green Helmut Guy shows up at about 3:05 in the video that this links to

[Link: canadafreepress.com...]

I hope this works

He's baaaack!

299 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:13:20pm

re: #283 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

It IS Zombie's father, here. We shouldn't call him a moron. My mother is also a lefty taken in by each and every talking point and can't articulate WHY she is a liberal beyond those specific points. But she is my mom and I love her despite this affliction.

300 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:13:23pm

re: #244 Nevergiveup

Shell shocked? Just kidding, but what got to him?

Well, he was always a lib, but he just got swept up in the post-9/11 moonbat crazytown thought patterns.

301 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:13:27pm

03:44 UN General Assembly president: IDF Gaza ground operation is a `monstrosity` (Reuters)

Another anti-Semite is heard from!

302 Render  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:13:52pm

re: #290 ploome hineni

The beginning was a long time ago. This is a poorly scripted replay of numerous previous episodes.

CENTURIES
EVEN,
R

303 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:14:00pm

re: #273 zombie
Re: 292
Never mind. You answered my question.

304 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:14:10pm
305 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:14:11pm

CNN has Major Leibovich again and she's again talking about the weapons in the tunnels.

306 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:14:27pm

re: #277 Bloodnok

Couldn't have said it better...

307 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:14:37pm

re: #250 chicken kiev

205 Bloodnok

No -- there are comments and they are all extremely supportive. People are saying stuff like, "Mr. Ayers, you are my idol" and "You should be Secretary of Education," in all seriousness.

In his post, he also says his wife (and fellow terrorist) Bernardine Dohrn should be appointed Attorney General.

Yeah, then she can indict herself for murder.

308 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:15:02pm

I the other countries are realizing that Israel is playing by their own rules now, and they don't like it one bit--especially because Israel is so superior.

309 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:15:21pm
310 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:15:23pm
311 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:15:59pm

re: #134 MrPaulRevere

They also had a pretty sizable demonstration in Kansas City as well...[Link: www.kctv5.com...] Click on the local tab to watch. There is almost no balance to this report whatsoever. Moonbattery is everywhere it seems.


Just watched the video you linked to-- of course the reporter said at the very end these folks were asking Mr. Hopey Changey to intervene.

Hellooooo he isn;'even commenting....

312 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:16:02pm

re: #300 zombie

Well, he was always a lib, but he just got swept up in the post-9/11 moonbat crazytown thought patterns.

Is he familiar with 'Zombie'?

313 psyop  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:16:05pm

re: #267 solomonpanting

Arabs demand UN call for immediate cease-fire

Right on cue.
F*@k'em all.

The UN can call for whatever they want. What are they going to do? Actually BACK UP one of their resolutions with action or force?

IMHO, the safest place to be in the world is on the wrong side of a U.N. Security Council "Resolution".

314 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:16:16pm

In the United States every servant of the people, military or civilian, takes an oath to preserve protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

315 DEZes  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:16:27pm

To that crowd in the video chanting and attacking Israel supporters, Maximum UP YOURS!

316 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:16:45pm

re: #305 MandyManners

CNN has Major Leibovich again and she's again talking about the weapons in the tunnels.

The only thing in the tunnels is baby milk powder!
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317 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:16:53pm

re: #247 soccerdad

For the Jews living in this country, I'm glad you have the right to arm yourselves. Please consider the option. Reading about some of these 'protests', it has me spooked too.

This really doesn't spook me. I have always known this
dissent of Israeli's by Arabs would reach the blood boiling,hatred over the top of the protest meter here in the USA. They live to hate. They die to live eternally.
I say expose their hate....and wake up the ignorant sympathizing moonbats and the silent moderate Islamists, so they can see this protesting with their own eyes, .....the "peaceful religion" frothing in hatred for themselves.

318 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:16:56pm

re: #308 goddessoftheclassroom

I the other countries are realizing that Israel is playing by their own rules now, and they don't like it one bit--especially because Israel is so superior.

It's almost a little pathetic to see how much more superior they are.

319 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:17:05pm

re: #315 DEZes

To that crowd in the video chanting and attacking Israel supporters, Maximum UP YOURS!

That's what I don't get, aren't they chanting to free Palestine from Hamas? Then why would they attack ISraeli supporters?

/s

320 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:17:09pm

re: #308 goddessoftheclassroom

I have to actually give Obama some credit when he said that if someone was lobbing mortar rounds across the border at his kids, he'd probably respond as well- or words to that effect....

321 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:17:24pm

re: #294 Hengineer

I never swayed from being a conservative - I want to attribute that to being raised by my Army officer father, but both my brother and sister went through a liberal stage. My brother recovered quickly. My sister has evolved over the last few years (when her husband opened a private practice and the taxes really hit!). I think I didn't sway because I have always been obsessive about politics, I love the history of politics in our country and how its really shaped where we are today.

322 kafir lover  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:17:30pm

Not exactly how Martin Luther King would have gone about it, is it?

323 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:17:30pm

My parents (now gone) were nice, sane right of center old-line Democrats until they retired and started watching crap like Phil Donahue. Then they got all squishy. My family had a long tradition of vehemently arguing politics, so it wasn't really wasn't too far over the line that when I had enough I would just start screaming at them. I don't feel bad at all about it.

I wouldn't tell anyone else to do the same but sometimes you just have to tell them how it is in no uncertain terms and too bad if they don't like. Even if it is your parents.

324 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:17:41pm

re: #283 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I wonder what zombie's father would say if the moron ACTUALLY went to North Korea.

Actually, my Dad is indeed a Korean War vet. He fought in North Korea.

And despite that, half a century later, he has basically defected to the other side.

326 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:18:24pm

re: #320 BigMoo

I have to actually give Obama some credit when he said that if someone was lobbing mortar rounds across the border at his kids, he'd probably respond as well- or words to that effect....

It was during the summer, immediately after visiting Sderot, he said something along the lines of "Israel has the right to defend itself. If someone were launching rockets at my two daughters, I would do everything within my power to see that it was stopped"

327 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:18:29pm

Queen Noor is spewing the Hamas line on CNN. Stupid asshole.

328 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:18:44pm

re: #313 psyop

The UN can call for whatever they want. What are they going to do? Actually BACK UP one of their resolutions with action or force?

IMHO, the safest place to be in the world is on the wrong side of a U.N. Security Council "Resolution".

Except for Sadaam Hussein.

329 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:18:50pm

re: #321 ArmyWife

I never swayed from being a conservative - I want to attribute that to being raised by my Army officer father, but both my brother and sister went through a liberal stage. My brother recovered quickly. My sister has evolved over the last few years (when her husband opened a private practice and the taxes really hit!). I think I didn't sway because I have always been obsessive about politics, I love the history of politics in our country and how its really shaped where we are today.

good for you, as to those who would scream at me for saying libertarian, I'm not that crazy. Hell I am a federal department of defense employee lol.

Just think theres a lot of wasteful spending, borrowing and taxing that doesn't need to exist.

330 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:18:51pm

re: #314 lifeofthemind

So many people can't wrap their minds around the fact that there ARE domestic enemies.

Somehow they think that if the person is American, they can't be enemies of America, but can only be "dissenters."

331 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:18:52pm

True to form, CNN interviews Israeli spokesperson before turning to Arab/Palestinian for propaganda that cannot be challenged.
Blitzer now interviewing Queen Noor of Jordan who claims Israel is still occupying Gaza.

Israel still controls electricity, gas, etc.
Great...let the Palestinians build their own systems.

Blitzer points out that Egypt also treats them badly. Noor refuses to address that.

332 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:19:07pm

re: #316 jcm

The only thing in the tunnels is baby milk powder!

The C-4 is only packaging.

333 bosforus  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:19:48pm
334 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:19:50pm

re: #285 Iron Fist

There may indeed be race riots. It only takes one side to riot. A lot of the so-called peace movement display a willingness to use force to get what they want. It was very early in the Afghan war that moonbats were photographed with a banner that said they'd support the troops when they shoot their officers. I think that was one of yours, as a matter of fact.

In any event, these people weren't in any way advocating "peace". They were advocating mutiney.

Here's the photo.

It's not mine, but so many people thought that it was, that I made a special page for photos that weren't mine!

335 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:19:50pm

re: #324 zombie

Actually, my Dad is indeed a Korean War vet. He fought in North Korea.

And despite that, half a century later, he has basically defected to the other side.

I feel your pain.

336 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:20:12pm

re: #327 MandyManners

Queen Noor is spewing the Hamas line on CNN. Stupid asshole.


Without Israel the only thing she would be queen of is a small suburb in Paris.

337 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:20:19pm

re: #321 ArmyWife

Funny how that works...IMHO, there'd be a hell of a more conservatives if American wage earners had to write a big check each quarter instead of the mandatory withholding of taxes...

338 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:20:41pm

re: #301 Nevergiveup

03:44 UN General Assembly president: IDF Gaza ground operation is a `monstrosity` (Reuters)

Another anti-Semite is heard from!

They expect the IDF to adhere to the high professional standards of UN Peacekeeping missions by standing by while people are murdered and then concentrating their energies on rape and pederasty.

339 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:20:46pm

Obama keeps silent on explosive Gaza conflict

WASHINGTON (AFP) — As the clock ticks down to Barack Obama's inauguration, the US president-elect has kept silent on the decades-old Israeli-Palestinian conflict and its latest deadly turn in the Gaza Strip.

Obama transition officials have ventured little more than saying their boss is "monitoring" the situation in Gaza, where at least 460 people have been killed in eight days of air raids before a ground offensive began Saturday.

In the same period, Gaza militant rockets have killed four Israelis and wounded several dozen people.

"The president-elect is closely monitoring global events, including the situation in Gaza," his national security spokeswoman Brooke Anderson said in a statement after the ground assault got underway.

But she offered no further comment on the violence in Gaza and used a phrase repeated often by Obama and his aides: "There is one president at a time and we intend to respect that."

Senior advisor David Axelrod said Sunday that Obama is "committed" to achieving peace in the Middle East, in the only extended comments from the president-elect's team so far.

If Barry agreed with GWB on support for Israel he would say so.

Good thing Israel is taking care of this before the Messiah occupies the WH.

340 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:20:53pm

This is how we separate the wheat from the chaff. The leftists and the Islamists can't help themselves from lapsing into violence. They'll do it over cartoons, or books, military operations. The result is the same. The more this scenario plays out the better for the good guys.

341 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:20:54pm

re: #324 zombie

Actually, my Dad is indeed a Korean War vet. He fought in North Korea.

And despite that, half a century later, he has basically defected to the other side.

My dad was in North Korea also...spent 6 of 9 months doing K.P. for being such a P.O.S., then he finally got his shtuff together and spent 3 months above the 38th parallel... took 3 months to get 150 miles in...3 days to get kicked out when China came knocking.

342 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:21:14pm

re: #311 summergurl

Funny how the Islamists and their fellow travelers are counting on Obama.

343 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:21:18pm

*VOMIT*

Seriously, people can get nightmares from merely watching these videos.
It's like the 3rd Reich is back in Maximum Jihad, only this time it's everywhere in the West, wrapped up in ugly Kaffiyahs and repulsive colored flags inscribed with language that resembles a sandbox of scrambled poisonous snakes from the depths of hell. Don't get me started with the actual sound of it.

*SHIVER*

344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:21:28pm

re: #339 njdhockeyfan

I think Obama is doing the right thing by keeping his yap shut.

345 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:21:30pm

re: #326 Joo-LiZ

Probably the only time I've seen him take a real stand...that is, other than 'spreading the wealth'....

346 stuiec  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:21:34pm

Bad craziness is pretty much all you get from some people: Hamas moves on Fatah 'collaborators'.

The Hamas government has placed dozens of Fatah members under house arrest out of fear that they might exploit the current IDF operation to regain control of the Gaza Strip.

The move came amid reports that the Fatah leadership in the West Bank has instructed its followers to be ready to assume power over the Gaza Strip when and if Israel's military operation results in the removal of Hamas rule.

Fatah officials in Ramallah told The Jerusalem Post that Hamas militiamen had been assaulting many Fatah activists since the beginning of the operation last Saturday. They said at least 75 activists were shot in the legs while others had their hands broken.

Wisam Abu Jalhoum, a Fatah activist from the Jabalya refugee camp, was shot in the legs by Hamas militiamen for allegedly expressing joy over the IDF air strikes on Hamas targets.

"Hamas is very nervous, because they feel that their end is nearing," a senior Fatah official said. "They have been waging a brutal campaign against Fatah members in the Gaza Strip."

Meanwhile, sources close to Hamas revealed over the weekend that the movement had "executed" more than 35 Palestinians who were suspected of collaborating with Israel and were being held in various Hamas security installations.

347 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:21:45pm

re: #292 Bobblehead

I'm curious. What caused your father's shift in thinking?

See comment #273.

348 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:21:52pm

re: #337 BigMoo

Funny how that works...IMHO, there'd be a hell of a more conservatives if American wage earners had to write a big check each quarter instead of the mandatory withholding of taxes...

I agree, withholding tends to make people forget just how much money Uncle Sam takes away, because they technically never see it in the first place (oh Earnings statements and such are just numbers on a page).

349 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:21:59pm

re: #337 BigMoo

As someone who does pay quarterly, I certainly am in agreement with you!

350 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:22:20pm

re: #254 FrogMarch

A friend of mine is working on a thesis about the phenomenon that people on the "left" feel free to opine openly about their politics with the assumption that everyone around them is in total agreement, while people who are not "left" tend to keep quiet.

Which is why it is my moral obligation to speak up and set the record straight. Even if the moonbat isn't swayed , the audience will know the opinion isn't universal and quite frequently others will also agree with you and speak up. Many moonbats have been forced to retreat under such conditions.

351 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:22:36pm

I am watching the BBC. It's funny, they think the EU counts.

352 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:22:37pm

hello Lizards! It's still cold in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Zombie, great work! As alwalys.

How are you-all and are we still OT?

353 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:22:41pm
354 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:22:46pm

re: #297 FrogMarch

and they probably attended our universities...

San Francisco State, for the most part.

355 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:22:49pm

Noor: "both sides broke the truce...Israelis went into Gaza and killed some Palestinians...Hamas fired rockets...didn't kill any Israelis."

Doesn't tell you that the Palestinians were killed because they were in the process of tunneling under the border to attack Israelis, and the fact that Israelis weren't killed during the truce was not for lack of trying on the Palestinians' part.

Frikkin' moral equivalency.
I am thinking bannable thoughts.

356 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:22:49pm

re: #315 DEZes

To that crowd in the video chanting and attacking Israel supporters, Maximum UP YOURS!

Why must they always have such childish chants?

357 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:23:06pm

re: #291 Age Of Freedom

Maximum Fuck Them.

More like a whine --"Weeeerrrreeee losing, make them stop!"

358 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:23:07pm

re: #313 psyop

The UN can call for whatever they want. What are they going to do? Actually BACK UP one of their resolutions with action or force?

IMHO, the safest place to be in the world is on the wrong side of a U.N. Security Council "Resolution".

I agree there's nothing the UN can do. The only drawback is the propaganda effect that those who have faith in the UN can point to as another example of Israeli intransigence vis-a-vis "world opinion." The same world opinion that has allowed the Pali cancer to grow for six decades.

359 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:23:12pm

re: #308 goddessoftheclassroom

I the other countries are realizing that Israel is playing by their own rules now, and they don't like it one bit--especially because Israel is so superior.

Don't you just luv and respect the moxy that Israel has shown to stand on it's principles of what is best for themselves.
I feel such great pride for their strength and modeling to all of a strong and free democracy.

360 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:23:24pm

re: #327 MandyManners

She had better tow the line.

Honor killing is legal in Jordan.

361 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:23:32pm

re: #226 Iron Fist

Yeah, that's something that has been bothering me since 9-11. Why are we still letting people from the Mohammedan bloc to get visas to come to America in the first place? We may not be able to deport American citizens for their religion, but no foreigner has the right to visit the United States. We don't have to let Saudi citizens come here and take flying lessons.

Not even if they do want to learn how to land the plane.


You're here on a visa and take part in an un-peaceful demonstration and get taken to jail? YOU GO HOME. You assault someone? YOU GO HOME.

362 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:23:34pm

re: #353 buzzsawmonkey

While we're talking about nutty parents, my mother convinced herself that the fact things are more calm in Iraq had nothing to do with the surge--that the two were merely a coincidence. I asked her how she had come to that conclusion, and she had, of course, no reasons or facts or data to back it up--she just made it up out of her own head.

I told her that she could read the reports of people like Michael Yon online and get some actual information from people who were there in Iraq and who had seen and reported on the difference the surge had made, but she wasn't interested.

Then, of course, there's my brother, who works in mortgages, and who had experienced firsthand the efforts of ACORN to game the system, recognized the problem that subprime mortgages were for the financial system, understood that Obama was connected to ACORN for years--and voted for him anyway.

At least he was an informed voter!

363 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:24:06pm

re: #327 MandyManners

Queen Noor is spewing the Hamas line on CNN. Stupid asshole.

I met her once, not a pleasure, nothing is original equipment, when she tried to make my staff act like servants we told her security before her face where they could go and buy a soda for her.

364 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:24:12pm

re: #356 Outrider

Why must they always have such childish chants?

This is your brain


This is your brain on drugs, any questions?

365 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:24:27pm

re: #312 njdhockeyfan

Is he familiar with 'Zombie'?

I certainly hope not!

Highly unlikely.

366 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:24:38pm
367 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:24:50pm
368 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:25:10pm

re: #339 njdhockeyfan

Obama keeps silent on explosive Gaza conflict


If Barry agreed with GWB on support for Israel he would say so.

Good thing Israel is taking care of this before the Messiah occupies the WH.

Agree with your analysis 100%

369 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:25:16pm

re: #273 zombie
Sad.

Al Gore must have put his oracle powers into the intranetz.

370 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:25:40pm

re: #353 buzzsawmonkey

You should have been there when my Uncle (also a frequent traveler on the Crazytown Express) asked my husband if he was happy to hear Obama would be bringing all the troops home from Iraq post haste.

371 J.S.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:26:09pm

re: #300 zombie

yeah, family of Moonbats (ditto up here in Canada -- along with relatives in the U.S -- I won't say where they live, but i haven't spoken to them in decades on any serious matters -- just "how's the weather?" and hope it doesn't lead to some Global Warming hysteria)...those in Canada I sort of "understand", since their anti-Americanism is mixed up with their confused idea of what it means to be a patriotic Canadian...(about 2 in our family are somewhat "sensible" -- rest, forgot it.)

372 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:26:13pm

re: #348 Hengineer

Wish someone would have the stones to propose this-but neither party wants the taxpayers to figure out how much they are truly paying these days...

373 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:26:16pm

re: #337 BigMoo

Funny how that works...IMHO, there'd be a hell of a more conservatives if American wage earners had to write a big check each quarter instead of the mandatory withholding of taxes...

Every month. Hell, every time you get a paycheck.

"What? I made $2000 and have to give them half?"

374 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:26:34pm

re: #359 notutopia

Don't you just luv and respect the moxy that Israel has shown to stand on it's principles of what is best for themselves.
I feel such great pride for their strength and modeling to all of a strong and free democracy.

YES!
This song comes to mind. I wish I could revise it for Israel--buzzsawmonkey. where are you?

375 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:26:35pm

re: #345 BigMoo

Probably the only time I've seen him take a real stand...that is, other than 'spreading the wealth'....

You think it was a stand?

I think it was politi-speak.

376 captwfcall  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:26:42pm

I question whether this really happened. It has not been on any news networks that I've seen so far.

377 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:26:54pm

re: #370 ArmyWife

You should have been there when my Uncle (also a frequent traveler on the Crazytown Express) asked my husband if he was happy to hear Obama would be bringing all the troops home from Iraq post haste.

Too bad he didn't ask if he also meant all the troops in Germany, Bahrain, Djibouti, Japan, etc....

378 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:27:00pm

re: #368 transient

Barry is hugging his knees in a corner, somewhere and chain smoking and thinking, "This is not the job I knew..."

379 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:27:05pm

NYC mayor heads to Israel to 'show his support'

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Yeah, fine, dandy. It would be nice if Bloomberg ever went to Israel and actually spent more than one day there? Until he ran for Mayor he had NEVER been to Israel. Phony bastard.

380 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:27:19pm

re: #363 lifeofthemind

Good for you.

381 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:27:38pm

re: #367 Iron Fist

Saddam Hussein would still be funding 'Splodeydopes and happily running people through wood chippers if the Left had had their way. Objectively, the anti-war people were pro-saddam. Some of them, like the French, were that way because they were on Saddam's payroll, but others really considered Saddam to have been the "good" guy.

At least he was the anti-American guy. That makes him good enough, to the Left.

But...but...but... It's their CULTURE to fund splodeydopes and using wood chippers and gassing kurds and honour killings, rape rooms, ad infinitum. And the Joooouice were occupying some land!
///

382 captwfcall  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:27:43pm

re: #376 captwfcall

I question whether this really happened. It has not been on any news networks that I've seen so far.

btw, that's sarcasm for those who may not have gotten it ;p

383 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:28:03pm

re: #273 zombie

By chance, he fell into the moobatopshere online, and he been plummeting into the spiraling madness ever since.

My brother fell into that hole. Although not on-line. He's technically clueless.

384 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:28:04pm

re: #373 Silhouette

Every month. Hell, every time you get a paycheck.

"What? I made $2000 and have to give them half?"

You ever watch a kid get his/her first real paycheck with all the withholdings? Priceless. ;-)>

385 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:28:04pm

re: #372 BigMoo

Wish someone would have the stones to propose this-but neither party wants the taxpayers to figure out how much they are truly paying these days...

No, people have the right information to know how much they've truly paid, but the problem is if they actually do it, half of America won't pay any taxes at all, and will end up owing back taxes. Remember how many people live from paycheck to paycheck in this country (sad).

386 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:28:16pm
387 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:28:19pm

re: #376 captwfcall

I question whether this really happened. It has not been on any news networks that I've seen so far.

We all know if it's not important it's not on TV.

/

388 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:28:21pm

re: #379 Nevergiveup

The story doesn't say whether he's paying for the trip himself, or if it's a taxpayer-funded junket.

389 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:28:26pm

re: #343 Age Of Freedom

flags inscribed with language that resembles a sandbox of scrambled poisonous snakes from the depths of hell.

That's practically poetic!

390 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:28:54pm

re: #384 Outrider

You ever watch a kid get his/her first real paycheck with all the withholdings? Priceless. ;-)>

Welcome to the Real World son/daughter

391 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:28:57pm

re: #367 Iron Fist

Saddam Hussein would still be funding 'Splodeydopes and happily running people through wood chippers if the Left had had their way. Objectively, the anti-war people were pro-saddam. Some of them, like the French, were that way because they were on Saddam's payroll, but others really considered Saddam to have been the "good" guy.

At least he was the anti-American guy. That makes him good enough, to the Left.

I think the SC would NEVER have voted to enforce that resolution if that had thought President Bush was serious.

392 Piglet-U93  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:29:05pm

re: #326 Joo-LiZ

It was during the summer, immediately after visiting Sderot, he said something along the lines of "Israel has the right to defend itself. If someone were launching rockets at my two daughters, I would do everything within my power to see that it was stopped"

The O is a Roman when in Rome, ....

When he is president we'll see what he really is!

393 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:29:09pm

re: #336 Nevergiveup

Without Israel the only thing she would be queen of is a small suburb in Paris.

Wiki is a handy tool. I looked up her father, Najeeb Halaby, and it turns out her sister was in Maria Shriver's wedding.

394 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:29:11pm

re: #377 Hengineer

This is the same Uncle who said the country was more stable under Saddam. My husband (who had just gotten home after being embedded with the Iraqi Army for a year) said "wow, the Iraqis will be surprised to learn that" and walked away. He is a better man than me.

395 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:29:25pm

re: #388 jaunte

The story doesn't say whether he's paying for the trip himself, or if it's a taxpayer-funded junket.

Well on that count he is OK. I mean he is a billionaire and takes a 1$ salary. I am sure he is paying for it.

396 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:29:26pm

re: #373 Silhouette

Yep-and I've got friends who have a mindset about their net pay- 'hey, I've got enough to be comfortable on'...drives me NUTS. Well, more nuts.

397 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:29:28pm

re: #378 WhiteRasta

Barry is hugging his knees in a corner, somewhere and chain smoking and thinking, "This is not the job I knew..."

Maybe he should've voted for Hillary.

398 J.S.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:29:39pm

re: #369 Age Of Freedom

Ali Gore's tv is heavily promoted up here...(some of it is extremely antisemitic, pro Arab, etc.)

399 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:30:07pm

re: #395 Nevergiveup

He definitely gets points for that.

400 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:30:10pm

I am waiting for the anti-American intelligentsia to rediscover the socialist aspects of National Socialism and try to rehabilitate them as a German reform movement that was misunderstood by America, they'll probably make then seem like accommodationists to the Soviets to play the fantasy out.

401 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:30:18pm

re: #384 Outrider

You ever watch a kid get his/her first real paycheck with all the withholdings? Priceless. ;-)>

A friend of mine does Junior Achievement for second graders.

He LOVES tax day. He hands out five dollars to 7-yr-olds. Then goes around and takes 2 dollars back. They get so sad.

And maybe some Republicans are born.

402 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:30:31pm

For so many people, going out with a banner and marching and chanting is THE political process. The idea of being truly informed, voting, writing your congress critter, monitoring what is going on at the state house . . . . is beyond their imagination. It just doesn't have the same feeling.

403 gulfloafer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:30:34pm

I think Megadeath said it best: "Peace Sells ... But Who's Buying?"

404 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:30:52pm

re: #394 ArmyWife

This is the same Uncle who said the country was more stable under Saddam. My husband (who had just gotten home after being embedded with the Iraqi Army for a year) said "wow, the Iraqis will be surprised to learn that" and walked away. He is a better man than me.

Heh, one could have called it a more stable place under Saddam. That is, its surprising how stable a country can be when they give anybody who doesn't agree with the dictator a really short haircut.

405 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:31:05pm

re: #385 Hengineer

VERY true and very sad-but then again, they're all getting a bail-out on their mortgages. Makes ya wonder if we're the suckers...lol.

406 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:31:41pm

re: #324 zombie

Actually, my Dad is indeed a Korean War vet. He fought in North Korea.

And despite that, half a century later, he has basically defected to the other side.

My dad is a WW2 Navy vet. He basically allowed my mother (who was a CPUSA member during the 40's) to do his thinking for him, but has recently "come out of the closet" as a conservative. He even voted for McCain.

He cried to see my kids come from all over to be with him on his 90th birthday.

407 DEZes  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:31:48pm

re: #356 Outrider

Why must they always have such childish chants?


They have no rational arguments, so they resort to childish behavior like chanting and temper tantrums.

408 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:31:50pm

Wish Regev would counter Barghouti's claims of "massacre" -- hundreds of (innocent, we're sure) Palestinian deaths.

409 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:31:52pm

re: #390 Hengineer

Welcome to the Real World son/daughter

couple of years back the moonbat kid across the street had been lecturing/debating me for some time. I made sure I was present when he got his first real paycheck and learned just where the government got its money. It made an impact.

410 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:32:00pm

re: #400 lifeofthemind

I am waiting for the anti-American intelligentsia to rediscover the socialist aspects of National Socialism and try to rehabilitate them as a German reform movement that was misunderstood by America, they'll probably make then seem like accommodationists to the Soviets to play the fantasy out.

The Anti-American intelligentsia that denies the Holocaust probably certainly does.

411 FightingBack  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:32:01pm

re: #388 jaunte

He can afford it. And, NY is the only US city with a foreign policy.

412 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:32:12pm

re: #360 WhiteRasta

She had better tow the line.

Honor killing is legal in Jordan.

I don't see her sons or sons-in-law murdering the queen dowager.

413 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:32:21pm

I watched a horrific video of Saddam's son beating the Iraqi soccer team members with what looked like an electrical cable for losing a match.

Truly horrific.

414 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:32:33pm

re: #405 BigMoo

VERY true and very sad-but then again, they're all getting a bail-out on their mortgages. Makes ya wonder if we're the suckers...lol.

Yea really.


HEY EVERYBODY THE GOVERNMENT IS REWARDING PEOPLE WHO DEFAULT ON THEIR MORTGAGES!

415 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:32:48pm

re: #378 WhiteRasta

Welcome to the 'big leagues' Mr. Obama, ya can't vote 'present' when you're the leader of the free world...

416 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:33:04pm

re: #405 BigMoo

Who is getting a mortgage bailout? Has anyone heard of anyone who has been able to just stop paying their mortgage?

417 Render  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:33:14pm

[Link: www.google.com...]

[Link: www.enquirer.com...]

“We didn't need that kind of element circulating in the community without the knowledge of who they are,” said Mayor David Willmoth Jr."

FREE
PEYTON
MANNING!,
R

418 psyop  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:33:18pm

re: #328 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, to be fair, the U.S. only sought that for "legitimacy". I promise you, had there been no Sec Council resolution (1440, I believe), Iraq, Afghanistan and all that followed would have still happened. The U.N. resolution merely gave Bush some leverage.

Had the U.N. actually taken part in the actions resulting from their resolution, you would have a point. However, as is their Modus Operandi, they simply resolve and resolve, but never act on their resolutions. They are like that person you know that makes New Years resolutions every year, but never actually follows through.

Eventually, you stop caring about their promise that THIS year it will be different.

419 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:33:19pm

re: #286 Zimriel

I was in an Arabic class in which the teacher wondered why the Jews who dealt with the Holocaust would subject the Palestinians to "the wall". I piped up and suggested that we move on to the actual lesson. Next day a nice elderly Englishwoman came up to me and asked, "why did you speak up, are you Jewish?"

I guess the moral of the story is, be glad your peers aren't European.

My husband is learning Arabic the old fashioned way--using Rosetta Stone.

420 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:33:24pm

re: #412 MandyManners

I don't see her sons or sons-in-law murdering the queen dowager.

I think she was not the first wife (I forget her number). so the present king is her stepson.

421 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:33:32pm

re: #330 Silhouette

So many people can't wrap their minds around the fact that there ARE domestic enemies.

Somehow they think that if the person is American, they can't be enemies of America, but can only be "dissenters."

It's how they protectively cope with dissent behavior.
Most are just comfortably removed and complacent and some are "spooked". To some It's too surreal. Others, it's just too much hatred to accept yet. Be patient. Remember what 911 did to wake up so many who were asleep to reality. I'm afraid it will take another shock of that magnitude to move them out of complacency mode to accept that we indeed have enemies living here amongst us.

422 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:33:36pm
423 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:33:38pm

re: #413 WhiteRasta

I watched a horrific video of Saddam's son beating the Iraqi soccer team members with what looked like an electrical cable for losing a match.

Truly horrific.

Those are the good old days according to the liberals?

424 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:33:44pm

re: #350 Outrider

Which is why it is my moral obligation to speak up and set the record straight. Even if the moonbat isn't swayed , the audience will know the opinion isn't universal and quite frequently others will also agree with you and speak up. Many moonbats have been forced to retreat under such conditions.

Oh I agree. I do so more and more. It's very freeing. But there are times when talking about politics is unwelcome and inappropriate. Folks on the left tend to not see that line. (something to do with the fact that their leftism is their all-encompassing religion)

425 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:33:46pm

re: #415 BigMoo

Welcome to the 'big leagues' Mr. Obama, ya can't vote 'present' when you're the leader of the free world...

I have the bad feeling he is going to try.

426 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:34:02pm

re: #412 MandyManners

No. But her husband might.

427 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:34:13pm

re: #415 BigMoo

Welcome to the 'big leagues' Mr. Obama, ya can't vote 'present' when you're the leader of the free world...

No, but he can eat his waffles.

428 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:34:16pm

re: #404 Hengineer

Heh, one could have called it a more stable place under Saddam. That is, its surprising how stable a country can be when they give anybody who doesn't agree with the dictator a really short haircut.

Kinda like the way Iran doesn't have any homosexuals?

429 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:34:48pm

re: #414 Hengineer

Yea really.

HEY EVERYBODY THE GOVERNMENT IS REWARDING PEOPLE WHO DEFAULT ON THEIR MORTGAGES!

The Government:
Rewarding Failure since 1933!

430 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:34:51pm

re: #417 Render


FREE
PEYTON
MANNING!,
R

What?

I don't know what he's accused of, but I know he didn't do it!

431 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:34:55pm

re: #403 gulfloafer

I think Megadeath said it best: "Peace Sells ... But Who's Buying?"

One of my favorites.

432 hazzyday  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:34:58pm

re: #85 Nevergiveup

I just got home so if this was mentioned: Geraldo Rivera is an asshole and he has Hanan Ashrawi on FOX. Now I'm disgusted. I have been defending Fox all day, but this is unconscionable. Geraldo is an ignorant pig.

Geraldo lies to get news. Watch how he treats regular people around him. He's rude, calculating, and obnoxious.

433 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:35:03pm
434 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:35:04pm

re: #418 psyop

Well, to be fair, the U.S. only sought that for "legitimacy". I promise you, had there been no Sec Council resolution (1440, I believe), Iraq, Afghanistan and all that followed would have still happened. The U.N. resolution merely gave Bush some leverage.

Had the U.N. actually taken part in the actions resulting from their resolution, you would have a point. However, as is their Modus Operandi, they simply resolve and resolve, but never act on their resolutions. They are like that person you know that makes New Years resolutions every year, but never actually follows through.

Eventually, you stop caring about their promise that THIS year it will be different.

It also helped President Bush build a sort of coalition. This is the number one reason why I almost SCREAM when a moonbat claims we invaded Iraq for oil.

435 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:35:12pm
436 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:35:14pm

re: #66 LEGION

And of course our marxist commie press won't show how wacky and violent the pro-pali's are. San Fran must go into the ocean and take this weirdos with it SOON!

Oh, please, I just got done painting my living room.

437 Ringo the Gringo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:35:18pm

Here's a particularly nasty video I shot at an anti-Israel protest in L.A. during the Hezbollah/Israel war a couple years ago.

Bad craziness indeed!

438 uptight  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:35:18pm

CREE-PEE-PALESTINE

439 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:35:28pm

re: #416 ArmyWife

Who is getting a mortgage bailout? Has anyone heard of anyone who has been able to just stop paying their mortgage?

not and still keep the house anyway. The stuff of political toons. ;-)>

440 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:35:42pm

re: #422 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, you are correct. Toe the line.

441 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:35:55pm

re: #413 WhiteRasta

I watched a horrific video of Saddam's son beating the Iraqi soccer team members with what looked like an electrical cable for losing a match.

Truly horrific.

Remember Saddam had two sons.
On fed living human beings into a wood chipper.
The other was the one they called crazy.

Think about it.

442 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:36:02pm

re: #434 goddessoftheclassroom

We SHOULD have taken the oil - war spoils. We wouldn't be in debt right now had we not been so damn civilized about the whole thing.

443 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:36:36pm

re: #273 zombie

Worse, actually. Even I am shocked at what he believes. What makes it especially bizarre is that he is a long-time veteran and once used to be quite savvy about the world. A few years ago he got a computer for the first time in his life, and now he believes every crazed lie and conspiracy theory on the Internet. He has no "internal Web nonsense filter," being too old to have developed one. By chance, he fell into the moobatopshere online, and he been plummeting into the spiraling madness ever since.

Not too long ago you would see older folks fall for every UFO and Elvis sighting printed in the National Enquirer. It's just a different venue for craziness to be disbursed. I used to dread going to my in-laws because they would have that paper highlighted and dog-eared and discuss in detail and loudly all that garbage.


I just drank more more wine and tuned them out.

444 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:36:42pm

re: #442 ArmyWife

We SHOULD have taken the oil - war spoils. We wouldn't be in debt right now had we not been so damn civilized about the whole thing.

I agree.

445 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:36:46pm

re: #419 Alouette

My husband is learning Arabic the old fashioned way--using Rosetta Stone.

Dang, that IS old fashioned. But I thought it just had Greek, Demotic, and Hieroglyphs.

/runs.

446 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:37:11pm

re: #445 Silhouette

Dang, that IS old fashioned. But I thought it just had Greek, Demotic, and Hieroglyphs.

/runs.

cute

447 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:37:25pm

re: #441 lifeofthemind

Remember Saddam had two sons.
On fed living human beings into a wood chipper.
The other was the one they called crazy.

Think about it.

Qusay and Uday are dead-ay!
Thanks to GWB and US military.

448 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:37:26pm

re: #439 Outrider

I believe people THOUGHT that is what would happen with our Unicorn Jockey In Chief. I think they shall be very, very disappointed to learn that yes, Virginia, there is still a mortgage payment due each and every month.

449 stuiec  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:37:27pm

re: #400 lifeofthemind

I am waiting for the anti-American intelligentsia to rediscover the socialist aspects of National Socialism and try to rehabilitate them as a German reform movement that was misunderstood by America, they'll probably make then seem like accommodationists to the Soviets to play the fantasy out.

That already happened, between the signing of the Molotov-Von Ribbentropp pact and the invasion of Russia. The CPUSA was active in opposing American aid to the UK during that time, hoping that Hitler would cause the West to collapse and leave the path open for Soviet expansion. Only when Hitler turned his armies against Stalin did the CPUSA rediscover anti-Naziism.

450 broomer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:37:27pm

re: #445 Silhouette

Upding!

451 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:37:29pm

re: #445 Silhouette

Dang, that IS old fashioned. But I thought it just had Greek, Demotic, and Hieroglyphs.

/runs.

I will confess that that thought went through my mind when I first read her post!

452 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:38:09pm

re: #342 MrPaulRevere

Funny how the Islamists and their fellow travelers are counting on Obama.

who has refused to say ANYTHING in person. . .his people are trotting out the "monitoring closely". . .shit, so am I. . .for heaven's sake!

453 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:38:37pm

re: #441 lifeofthemind

The crazy one used to have a thing for pre pubescent girls and would go to schools and take them for his pleasure....

454 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:38:47pm

Koskidz posted some video too...
Stop bombing Gaza! (with video from SF)
Skip to the speech at 5:30 about socialism, Casto, revolution, etc.

455 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:38:48pm

re: #397 transient

Maybe he should've voted for Hillary.

3am. . .answer the ^&%#@ PHONE!

Present!

456 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:39:19pm

re: #420 goddessoftheclassroom

I think she was not the first wife (I forget her number). so the present king is her stepson.

Yep. She was No. 4 and she had four of the eleven kids.

457 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:39:42pm

re: #452 DisturbedEma

who has refused to say ANYTHING in person. . .his people are trotting out the "monitoring closely". . .shit, so am I. . .for heaven's sake!

which is the equivalent of voting present.

458 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:39:45pm

re: #426 WhiteRasta

No. But her husband might.

He's dead.

459 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:39:57pm

re: #418 psyop

Well, to be fair, the U.S. only sought that for "legitimacy". I promise you, had there been no Sec Council resolution (1440, I believe), Iraq, Afghanistan and all that followed would have still happened. The U.N. resolution merely gave Bush some leverage.

Had the U.N. actually taken part in the actions resulting from their resolution, you would have a point. However, as is their Modus Operandi, they simply resolve and resolve, but never act on their resolutions. They are like that person you know that makes New Years resolutions every year, but never actually follows through.

Eventually, you stop caring about their promise that THIS year it will be different.

The mechanism by which the UN Security Council was supposed to enforce its resolutions, dedicated armed forces assigned by treaty and a functioning military command council with a professional staff, has been a dead letter from the start. Korea was handled by a General Assembly authorized force, which is not in the Charter. Every UN action since has been an ad hoc action outside of the Charter procedure.

460 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:40:05pm

Franken up 225 with recount complete; focus turns to court

Norm Coleman's term as a U.S. senator ended at noon Washington time on Saturday, and by evening his hopes of winning a second term had been dealt an expected but serious setback as state officials counted previously rejected absentee ballots in St. Paul.

DFLer Al Franken held an unofficial lead of 225 votes over Coleman, according to a newspaper tally of the officials' count of the absentee ballots. Franken had led unofficially by 49 votes going into the day and gained a net 176 votes from the new ballots.

Keep counting 'til the Bonkey wins.

/I hope you weren't napping when they slipped in those extra 176 votes this morning

461 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:40:19pm

re: #454 Killgore Trout

Koskidz posted some video too...
Stop bombing Gaza! (with video from SF)
Skip to the speech at 5:30 about socialism, Casto, revolution, etc.

There are those communist/ death cult apologist bedfellows again.

462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:40:20pm

re: #445 Silhouette

That looked smart, so I dinged it. Didn't understand it, but I dinged it.

463 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:40:22pm

re: #456 MandyManners

Yep. She was No. 4 and she had four of the eleven kids.

Wasn't she bum rushed out? Thought I read that her relationship with the son in power was quite strained. . .

464 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:40:26pm

re: #416 ArmyWife

A good friend in Phoenix has been buying 'distressed properties'. He advises that homeowners behind in their mortgages (and not making payments) are now getting access to several programs that are allowing them to stay in their homes, at reduced payment schedules, etc...as an alternative to foreclosure. As a guy who always makes his mortgage payments, it angers him (and me) to see the arrogance of the homeowners who are 'gaming the system'.
Anecdotal to be sure, but I've no reason to doubt what he's telling me.

465 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:40:46pm

re: #457 Hengineer

which is the equivalent of voting present.

Ya think? :)

466 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:40:47pm

re: #389 zombie

That's practically poetic!

Thank you, I suppose. That will be 1 upding please.

467 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:40:52pm

re: #447 jcm

Qusay and Uday are dead-ay!
Thanks to GWB and US military.

The 101st airborne I believe.

468 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:41:14pm

re: #427 Hengineer

LMAO

469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:41:29pm

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

470 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:42:07pm

bbiab

471 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:42:11pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

Carefully

472 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:42:13pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes, lay off the porn.
lol

473 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:42:36pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

Not really, I got those LCD TV wipes from Best Buy and use those.

474 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:42:47pm

re: #449 stuiec

That already happened, between the signing of the Molotov-Von Ribbentropp pact and the invasion of Russia. The CPUSA was active in opposing American aid to the UK during that time, hoping that Hitler would cause the West to collapse and leave the path open for Soviet expansion. Only when Hitler turned his armies against Stalin did the CPUSA rediscover anti-Naziism.

Yes I am predicting a new wave of anti-American revisionist scholarship that will cast Nazi Germany in a more "nuanced" and balanced light.

475 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:43:00pm

re: #472 BigMoo

Yes, lay off the porn.
lol

oooh...I'd downding you but I laughed.

476 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:43:02pm

re: #447 jcm

Qusay and Uday are dead-ay!
Thanks to GWB and US military.

That was a very good day!

477 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:43:06pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

spit and kleenex

478 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:43:17pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

I use rubbing alcohol on a soft towel.

479 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:43:22pm

re: #460 Killian Bundy

Franken up 225 with recount complete; focus turns to court

Keep counting 'til the Bonkey wins.

/I hope you weren't napping when they slipped in those extra 176 votes this morning

/since election day Norm's lost a net 1000 votes, go figure how that could happen

480 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:43:26pm

re: #447 jcm

Qusay and Uday are dead-ay!
Thanks to GWB and US military.

yeah - but but but -- "there weren't any WMD's" *endless whining*

/left DNC meme

Memory hole

481 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:43:39pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

Does this help?

482 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:44:04pm

re: #479 Killian Bundy

/since election day Norm's lost a net 1000 votes, go figure how that could happen

the democrat cheat to win plan.

483 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:44:14pm

re: #443 summergurl

Not too long ago you would see older folks fall for every UFO and Elvis sighting printed in the National Enquirer. It's just a different venue for craziness to be disbursed. I used to dread going to my in-laws because they would have that paper highlighted and dog-eared and discuss in detail and loudly all that garbage.

I just drank more more wine and tuned them out.

folks like that I like to egg on occasionally. Keep bringing up new conspiracies. Hell, make some up. Tie them together into one large conspiracy bringing Bigfoot (who was a Mason) and the Loch Ness Monster, and the Ilumunatii (who are actually space aliens bent on one world government) all meeting with Jimmy Hoffa, Jim Morrison, Elvis and Barny the Dinosaur at Area 51 to discuss methods of concealing the truth about the space programs and WTC bombings.

Might as well get some entertainment out of the evening. ;-)>

484 tradewind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:44:21pm

Bad Craziness in SFO
....and that's a change from the norm there how, exactly?

485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:44:29pm

re: #481 Silhouette

heh.

486 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:45:08pm

re: #454 Killgore Trout

Koskidz posted some video too...
Stop bombing Gaza! (with video from SF)
Skip to the speech at 5:30 about socialism, Casto, revolution, etc.

"Stop bombing Gaza!"

Okay, we will stop as soon as we are through with Hamas.

Just give us a secondcouple of weeks, and we'll be out in a jiffy.

487 psyop  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:45:11pm

re: #459 lifeofthemind

The mechanism by which the UN Security Council was supposed to enforce its resolutions, dedicated armed forces assigned by treaty and a functioning military command council with a professional staff, has been a dead letter from the start. Korea was handled by a General Assembly authorized force, which is not in the Charter. Every UN action since has been an ad hoc action outside of the Charter procedure.

You are, of course, precisely right. The U.N. is effectively worthless. I doubt anyone that is an enemy of the U.S. or any of our allies that gives a damn about the U.N. They will hear about a resolution condemning their actions (or whatever), and probably pee themselves laughing.

488 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:45:12pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

Damp cloth only, something low in lint, gentle little pressure to avoid scratches. Any cleaners may fog the the screen face.
Screen cleaners are available at computer places.

489 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:45:23pm

re: #458 MandyManners

I thought you were talking about the wife of the present king of jordan.

My mistake.

490 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:45:44pm

re: #463 DisturbedEma

Wasn't she bum rushed out? Thought I read that her relationship with the son in power was quite strained. . .

From Wiki:

In the final months of King Hussein's life, Noor reportedly wanted her son Prince Hamzah to be named heir to the throne, although she disputes this in her memoir. Prince Hamzah was King Hussein's seventh child and fourth son. Abdullah, King Hussein's first son, became king and Hamzah became the heir presumptive. In 2004, however, Noor was dealt a further blow when, in a surprise move, Prince Hamzah was stripped of his title as Jordan's next in line and it is expected that King Abdullah will eventually name his own son as heir instead.[4]

Noor currently splits her time between Jordan; Washington, D.C.; and London. She continues to work on behalf of numerous international organizations and makes 70 to 100 speaking appearances annually.[5]

491 BigMoo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:46:09pm

re: #475 Hengineer

lol couldn't resist-I'm such a perv.

492 UberInfidel67  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:46:36pm

Ding me down all you want, but I would have kicked that stupid bitch in her fucking teeth. What was with her asking the cops "why are you letting them do that?!?!?!?!?!?!?!" Hell, all I saw was the human beings walking away from the assholes. Now, they can't even walk away without it being a slight to someone?

493 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:46:46pm

re: #481 Silhouette

Does this help?

a little hah

494 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:46:51pm

re: #480 FrogMarch

yeah - but but but -- "there weren't any WMD's" *endless whining*

/left DNC meme

Memory hole

I can't tell you how many lefties I turn inside out on the WMD thing. It's very entertaining.

495 Ben Hur  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:46:58pm

Hamas moves on Fatah 'collaborators'

Fatah officials in Ramallah told The Jerusalem Post that Hamas militiamen had been assaulting many Fatah activists since the beginning of the operation last Saturday. They said at least 75 activists were shot in the legs while others had their hands broken.

snip

Meanwhile, sources close to Hamas revealed over the weekend that the movement had "executed" more than 35 Palestinians who were suspected of collaborating with Israel and were being held in various Hamas security installations.

snip

The Hamas official said that his security forces had launched a massive "preemptive" campaign aimed at thwarting Fatah's attempts to "spread anarchy and chaos." He confirmed that many Fatah operatives had been shot in the legs over the past few days by Hamas "to make sure that they don't help Israel."

496 PloniAlmoni  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:46:59pm

These guys are animals.

If Hamas kills their own people, imagine how much these Hamas supporters hate Jews. Hamas has also killed their own people for "collaborating" with the Israelis. They shot at least 75 people in the legs and broke their hands to prevent them from "collaborating."

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

497 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:47:05pm
498 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:47:08pm

re: #490 MandyManners

From Wiki:

In the final months of King Hussein's life, Noor reportedly wanted her son Prince Hamzah to be named heir to the throne, although she disputes this in her memoir. Prince Hamzah was King Hussein's seventh child and fourth son. Abdullah, King Hussein's first son, became king and Hamzah became the heir presumptive. In 2004, however, Noor was dealt a further blow when, in a surprise move, Prince Hamzah was stripped of his title as Jordan's next in line and it is expected that King Abdullah will eventually name his own son as heir instead.[4]

Noor currently splits her time between Jordan; Washington, D.C.; and London. She continues to work on behalf of numerous international organizations and makes 70 to 100 speaking appearances annually.[5]

Ahh the poison pen. . .where she accused Israel of using posion gas. . .against "her people". . .ummmm yeah

499 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:47:26pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

Always works

500 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:47:29pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

Two thirds rubbing alcohol, one third water with a few drops of dish soap. Put the liquid on the cloth or tissue, not the screen.

501 tradewind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:47:32pm

If the Dalai Bama actually matches his actions to his words re Israel's defending herself, I may give him some credit.

502 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:47:35pm

re: #492 UberInfidel67

I think it was their presence, with the Israeli flags.

Maybe she thought they were stealing the flags that they wanted to burn later?

503 swamprat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:47:41pm

re: #414 Hengineer

Yea really.


HEY EVERYBODY THE GOVERNMENT IS REWARDING PEOPLE WHO DEFAULT ON THEIR MORTGAGES!

Damn! I don't have one!

504 psyop  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:47:43pm

re: #467 Nevergiveup

The 101st airborne I believe.

You would be correct.

505 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:47:47pm

re: #464 BigMoo

I know Maryland has a refinance program with a lower interest rate available for people in that situation BUT you have to meet income requirements and there is a cap on the amount the mortgage can be (in my county its $98k for a family of 4, I don't know what the cap is, however.) and if you sell or refinance this mortgage, you have to pay a percentage of the profit back to the state. I'd rather be the one who pays on time and therefore is able to refi right now at an equally low rate PLUS keep all the equity for me.

506 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:48:21pm

re: #481 Silhouette

Does this help?

Beat me to it

507 SaneInMN  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:48:32pm

Londonistan...

From [Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]


Today in London, thousands of demonstrators marched to protest Israel's attacks on Hamas. The demonstration was led and organized, at least in part, by a group of celebrities and fringe politicians. The celebrities included Annie Lennox, formerly of the Eurhythmics, a Jewish comedian named Alexei Sayle (wild guess--he isn't funny), and "human rights activist" Bianca Jagger, whom P. J. O'Rourke described a couple of decades ago as inhabiting the "lonely Hell of the formerly cute." That was when she was enthusing over the Communists in Nicaragua.

The celebrity press conference was yesterday. Lennox, in particular, exemplified the eternal cluelessness of those who know nothing about history:

A few days after Christmas I came downstairs, put the television on and saw smoke pyres emanating from buildings and it shook me to the core. [Ed.: Thankfully, her psyche was strong enough to withstand, without any apparent trauma, years of bombardment of Israel by rockets and mortars.] I was thinking, as a mother and as a human being, how was this going to be a solution to peace? [sic]

It's a question of human rights, human values that goes beyond Jewish, Muslim, nothing to do with any of that. There has to be a place ultimately where people come to the table.

508 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:48:54pm
509 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:48:56pm

re: #308 goddessoftheclassroom

I the other countries are realizing that Israel is playing by their own rules now, and they don't like it one bit--especially because Israel is so superior.

No, Israel is playing by the usual rules, that a country has the right to defend itself. Other countries were denying that right to Israel, to allow the "Palestinians" the "right" to "defend" their "homeland".

510 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:49:21pm

re: #398 J.S.

Ali Gore's tv is heavily promoted up here...(some of it is extremely antisemitic, pro Arab, etc.)

One day, far from now though, people will realize what's going on. All that "Free Maximum Fuck Palestine thing" isn't going to cut anymore. The dots will connect. "Free Maximum Fuck Palestine" is another way to say "Death to all Juice".

Unfortunately, SF is soaked with Jihadis and leftist fascists that it will take generations (now with Berry laying the path of now and forever) until people will realize what Israel has been facing since before its existence, and really what they were shilling for and letting grow in their home.

511 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:50:04pm

re: #490 MandyManners

From Wiki:

In the final months of King Hussein's life, Noor reportedly wanted her son Prince Hamzah to be named heir to the throne, although she disputes this in her memoir. Prince Hamzah was King Hussein's seventh child and fourth son. Abdullah, King Hussein's first son, became king and Hamzah became the heir presumptive. In 2004, however, Noor was dealt a further blow when, in a surprise move, Prince Hamzah was stripped of his title as Jordan's next in line and it is expected that King Abdullah will eventually name his own son as heir instead.[4]

Noor currently splits her time between Jordan; Washington, D.C.; and London. She continues to work on behalf of numerous international organizations and makes 70 to 100 speaking appearances annually.[5]

King Abdullah is a stud! He went through our Infantry, Airborne, Ranger, Special Forces schools (among others) and was commander of Jordans Special Operations prior to assuming the mantle.

He drives his security staff nuts because of his fondness for high speed motorcycles and cars, skydiving, mountain climbing, hang gliding, rappelling, as well as piloting the militaries jets.
An awesome individual in that regard.

512 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:50:11pm

re: #506 lifeofthemind

Beat me to it

Yes, but yours is embedded in the thread. Bettah!

513 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:50:12pm

re: #258 bosforus

Ironic that a city that seems to pride itself on tolerance and diversity tends to host some of the most intolerant in the world.

They're only tolerant if you agree with them, like all liberals.

514 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:50:18pm

re: #507 SaneInMN

And the useless tits formerly known as the "Police" let them go ahead.

There is nothing as useless as a British Cop.

515 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:50:23pm

The mindless chanting. The hate distorted faces. The concealed behind a rag faces.

I do not want this in my country.

I do not want this on my planet.

516 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:50:36pm
517 Ben Hur  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:50:48pm

Israeli leaders gamble all on Gaza invasion

Their primary motivation for sending in the F-16s a week ago was to try to deal with the menace of rocket attacks fired by militants inside Hamas-controlled Gaza.

Over a hundred thousand Israeli civilians lived a Russian-roulette existence in towns and villages near Gaza knowing they faced being killed by a rocket or mortar if they left the safety of bomb-proof rooms.

But behind that simple mission statement lie a number of key questions about the timing of the attack and reliance on military force when it had been used unsuccessfully many times in the past.

When historians come to analyse the current round of Israeli-Palestinian fighting the Israeli leaders will argue they had no choice.

They will say rocket barrages from militants in Hamas-controlled Gaza were intolerable and something had to be done.

But they will have to explain why they chose the end of 2008 to attack when Israel has been under rocket fire on and off from Gaza since 2000 and the late 2008 rocket barrages were no more heavy or menacing than earlier barrages

Absolutely false.

518 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:51:23pm

re: #517 Ben Hur

Israeli leaders gamble all on Gaza invasion

Absolutely false.

See the graphic posted on LGF a day or two ago.

519 psyop  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:51:43pm

re: #515 Ojoe

The mindless chanting. The hate distorted faces. The concealed behind a rag faces.

I do not want this in my country.

I do not want this on my planet.

It brings to mind the "2 minutes of Hate" a la Orwell's 1984.

520 Age Of Freedom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:52:05pm

re: #517 Ben Hur

Israeli leaders gamble all on Gaza invasion

Absolutely false.

Leftist propaganda.

521 Ben Hur  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:52:06pm

re: #518 Joo-LiZ

Precisely why I wrote "Absolutley."

522 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:52:21pm

Good night, dear Lizards.

God bless and defend Israel.

523 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:52:28pm

re: #371 J.S.

yeah, family of Moonbats (ditto up here in Canada -- along with relatives in the U.S -- I won't say where they live, but i haven't spoken to them in decades on any serious matters -- just "how's the weather?" and hope it doesn't lead to some Global Warming hysteria)...those in Canada I sort of "understand", since their anti-Americanism is mixed up with their confused idea of what it means to be a patriotic Canadian...(about 2 in our family are somewhat "sensible" -- rest, forgot it.)


I have a friend in Jersey that thinks I am the anti-Christ because I told her that the science behind global warming was flawed unless it took into account solar activity.

She screamed at me calling me " A polar bear killer".

524 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:53:36pm

re: #518 Joo-LiZ

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

525 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:53:44pm

re: #523 summergurl

Please tell me it was snowing outside as she was shreeching.......

526 flagpony  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:53:49pm

re: #119 zombie

I don't know about that! I was in the sunnyvale Ford store and EVERY salesperson is Middleeastern..mostly afgannies who did not take kindly to my statement that Hamas were the criminals.

527 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:53:57pm

re: #522 goddessoftheclassroom

Night Goddess. Sleep well.

528 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:54:07pm

re: #517 Ben Hur

The Real question is can they weaken/topple Hamas. That remains to be seen.

529 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:54:15pm

OT - Momentary heart attack.

I read Denver schools chief named to fill Senate vacancy and for a horror-filled second, thought they meant Ward Churchill.

530 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:54:18pm
531 psyop  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:54:19pm

re: #523 summergurl

I have a friend in Jersey that thinks I am the anti-Christ because I told her that the science behind global warming was flawed unless it took into account solar activity.

She screamed at me calling me " A polar bear killer".

That is for the best, the polar bear population has increased to the point that they are a danger to humans far further south than ever before. There are just so many more of them than there were 30 years ago.

532 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:54:37pm

re: #523 summergurl

I have a friend in Jersey that thinks I am the anti-Christ because I told her that the science behind global warming was flawed unless it took into account solar activity.

She screamed at me calling me " A polar bear killer".

Heh really piss her off and say "I've heard Polar Bears taste good in a stew"

533 chicken kiev  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:54:43pm

Thank G-d for the San Francisco cops. They are the ONLY thing keeping these screaming hate-filled freaks from beating the Israel supporters black and blue.

534 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:54:53pm

re: #519 psyop

re: #519 psyop

There is no reason in that behavior; I am beginning to think of certain groups as defective in ways that make them sort of not human.

535 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:55:03pm

Hundreds march in Seattle to protest Israeli attacks on Gaza

Chanting "Free, free Palestine," hundreds of people gathered in Seattle on Saturday to oppose the recent violence in the Middle East, mirroring protests worldwide that have drawn thousands as Israel has faced increasing criticism for its attacks on the Gaza Strip.


*spit*

May each and everyone experience life in a Hamas controlled paradise.

*spit*

536 Digital Display  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:55:06pm

re: #522 goddessoftheclassroom

Good night, dear Lizards.

God bless and defend Israel.

Good night Sweet Lizard

537 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:55:26pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

Here ya go.

538 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:55:37pm

re: #523 summergurl

I have a friend in Jersey that thinks I am the anti-Christ because I told her that the science behind global warming was flawed unless it took into account solar activity.

She screamed at me calling me " A polar bear killer".

But polar bears have such great fur and really do make excellent coats! ;-)>

539 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:55:51pm

re: #393 MandyManners

Wiki is a handy tool. I looked up her father, Najeeb Halaby, and it turns out her sister was in Maria Shriver's wedding.

It's all one big incestuous nest of moonbats.

540 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:56:25pm

re: #535 jcm

Chanting "Free, free Palestine," hundreds of people gathered in Seattle on Saturday to oppose the recent violence in the Middle East, mirroring protests worldwide that have drawn thousands as Israel has faced increasing criticism for its defensive retaliationsattacks on the Gaza Strip.

fixed the story.

541 Dave the.....  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:56:52pm

Jordan occupies 80% of the British Mandate (aka Palestine). When people call for Jordan to give up the occupation, then I will listen (maybe).

542 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:57:07pm

re: #537 Alouette

3rd time... my screen is icky and I don't want to go to the store. Better, idea though. Turn off computer. Go upstairs and snuggle up to the object of my affection!

Better do it quick too... before my wife gets home.

543 hazzyday  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:57:08pm

re: #329 Hengineer

good for you, as to those who would scream at me for saying libertarian, I'm not that crazy. Hell I am a federal department of defense employee lol.

Just think theres a lot of wasteful spending, borrowing and taxing that doesn't need to exist.

We could close the government on Friday's and no one would notice the difference.

544 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:57:24pm

re: #535 jcm

Hundreds march in Seattle to protest Israeli attacks on Gaza


*spit*

May each and everyone experience life in a Hamas controlled paradise.

*spit*

Ok here is what I don't quite understand: Israel has had other incursions, ie, Lebanon war..and i certainly do not remember this kind of vicious behavior during demonstrations...Did I just miss it?

545 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:57:32pm

Watching the Philistine/International ANSWER rally in NY today made me think I knew what it felt like to be in Germany in 1931 watching the Nazis rally with the police standing around. This was far more threatening than the German American Bund was.

546 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:57:50pm

re: #494 jcm

I can't tell you how many lefties I turn inside out on the WMD thing. It's very entertaining.

heh. They don't know what to say or how to think without their robot meme to repeat.

547 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:57:58pm

re: #544 Wishing

Ok here is what I don't quite understand: Israel has had other incursions, ie, Lebanon war..and i certainly do not remember this kind of vicious behavior during demonstrations...Did I just miss it?

You just missed it.

548 tradewind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:58:05pm

re: #544 Wishing

The demographics are a-changing.

549 psyop  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:58:17pm

re: #535 jcm

Hundreds march in Seattle to protest Israeli attacks on Gaza


*spit*

May each and everyone experience life in a Hamas controlled paradise.

*spit*

Crap, I didn't realize Our Fair City has been caught up in the fervor.

I mean, I shouldn't be surprised.... but I always hold out hope.

550 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:58:21pm

re: #489 WhiteRasta

I thought you were talking about the wife of the present king of jordan.

My mistake.

That's Rania, a Jordyptian.

551 Joo-LiZ  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:58:30pm

re: #544 Wishing

Ok here is what I don't quite understand: Israel has had other incursions, ie, Lebanon war..and i certainly do not remember this kind of vicious behavior during demonstrations...Did I just miss it?

See comment 437

552 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:58:44pm

re: #543 hazzyday

We could close the government on Friday's and no one would notice the difference.

except for the employees who are a day short of pay. Not all of them are lazy bastards stealing tax dollars engaging in useless tasks.

553 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:59:04pm

re: #548 tradewind

The demographics are a-changing.

I am not quite sure what it is...there is greater freedom, right in front of policemen, to assault people? What the hell is going on?

554 Mardukhai  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:59:08pm

re: #537 Alouette

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuu!

555 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:59:26pm

re: #543 hazzyday

We could close the government on Friday's and no one would notice the difference.

Its not like the people in those big federal buildings do any work on Fridays anyway....

556 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:59:30pm

G'night folks.

Those folks. Always something to protest.

557 Dave the.....  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:59:32pm
Watching the Philistine/International ANSWER rally in NY today made me think I knew what it felt like to be in Germany in 1931 watching the Nazis rally with the police standing around. This was far more threatening than the German American Bund was.

When the RNC was in St Paul earlier this year, someone watching the anti-Republican/American protests said that they reminded him of Germany in the 1920s when the communists and fascists used to march and see who could be the most loud and violent. Now it is black shirts instead of brown shirts.

558 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 6:59:48pm

re: #550 MandyManners

Isn't Noor an American?

559 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:00:07pm

re: #542 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

3rd time... my screen is icky and I don't want to go to the store. Better, idea though. Turn off computer. Go upstairs and snuggle up to the object of my affection!

Better do it quick too... before my wife gets home.

Can't let her catch you making a pass at your TV

560 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:00:11pm

re: #556 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Night

561 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:00:15pm

re: #498 DisturbedEma

Ahh the poison pen. . .where she accused Israel of using posion gas. . .against "her people". . .ummmm yeah

When did she say that caca?

562 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:00:23pm

re: #542 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

3rd time... my screen is icky and I don't want to go to the store. Better, idea though. Turn off computer. Go upstairs and snuggle up to the object of my affection!

Better do it quick too... before my wife gets home.

Windex & paper towel.

563 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:00:26pm

Interesting...James Zogby and Alan Dershowitz facing off on Blitzer.

564 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:00:27pm
565 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:00:57pm

re: #558 WhiteRasta

Isn't Noor an American?

Was, Father was Habib who ran an airline.

566 Dave the.....  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:01:00pm

The problem is the in the US, we coddle criminals. The violent types have nothing to fear. And if the police try to maintain order, the violent ones sue.

567 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:01:01pm

re: #432 hazzyday

Geraldo lies to get news. Watch how he treats regular people around him. He's rude, calculating, and obnoxious.

We were in Vegas in November and saw him in a casino - a little short guy. Wore all black, didn't smile and was too busy to acknowledge folks who said hello to him.

(saw Damon Wayans too - another short guy)

568 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:01:03pm

re: #523 summergurl

I would like to see the scientific evidence that the earth has definitely left behind its recurring ice ages ( Pleistocene ) otherwise I think that what we are really doing is not global warming but preventing the next Laurentide Ice Sheet.

569 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:01:07pm

re: #555 Hengineer

Its not like the people in those big federal buildings do any work on Fridays anyway....

I know many people working their asses off in those big federal buildings. And they are earning their money like the rest of us.

570 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:01:16pm

re: #511 Outrider

King Abdullah is a stud! He went through our Infantry, Airborne, Ranger, Special Forces schools (among others) and was commander of Jordans Special Operations prior to assuming the mantle.

He drives his security staff nuts because of his fondness for high speed motorcycles and cars, skydiving, mountain climbing, hang gliding, rappelling, as well as piloting the militaries jets.
An awesome individual in that regard.

Kinda' feels like he's bit our hand.

571 Fredlike  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:01:18pm

re: #490 MandyManners

From Wiki:

In the final months of King Hussein's life, Noor reportedly wanted her son Prince Hamzah to be named heir to the throne, although she disputes this in her memoir. Prince Hamzah was King Hussein's seventh child and fourth son. Abdullah, King Hussein's first son, became king and Hamzah became the heir presumptive. In 2004, however, Noor was dealt a further blow when, in a surprise move, Prince Hamzah was stripped of his title as Jordan's next in line and it is expected that King Abdullah will eventually name his own son as heir instead.[4]

Noor currently splits her time between Jordan; Washington, D.C.; and London. She continues to work on behalf of numerous international organizations and makes 70 to 100 speaking appearances annually.[5]

Better than the old days, when the Sultans would have all their brothers and pregnant step-mothers put to death when they gained the throne.

572 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:01:51pm

re: #556 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

G'night folks.

Those folks. Always something to protest.

Good nite FBV. Sleep well.

573 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:02:15pm

re: #569 Outrider

I know many people working their asses off in those big federal buildings. And they are earning their money like the rest of us.

At the same time I know plenty that don't. Maybe we see just see different people.

574 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:02:16pm

OT- Not-so-heartwarming stories

Jewish groups have condemned a Belgian public broadcaster for airing a show in which a standup comedian jokes about the Holocaust and the persecution of Jews.

And

City court workers including a municipal judge in an Atlanta suburb will undergo sensitivity training after police arrested a Muslim woman for refusing to remove her religious headscarf before attending a hearing.
575 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:02:42pm

re: #551 Joo-LiZ

See comment 437

Sorry, not even close to the insanity posted at top of this thread.
It is like...something let go or something? We went past a boundary?
Am not sure at all, but it is DIFFERENT.

576 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:02:51pm

re: #570 MandyManners

How many wives does he have? The big studley guy? And how many sons?

577 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:02:51pm

re: #546 FrogMarch

heh. They don't know what to say or how to think without their robot meme to repeat.

It's pretty simple.
Did Saddam have WMD... Yes. (They'll admit that)
Okay, I'll admit we didn't find stockpiles... Were are they?
I've never had one want to answer the question they always go back to Bush lied.

The other is, the use of force resolution, how many listed reasons for the War?
They never know. (23)
How many concerned WMD ? (2)

It's like shooting fish in barrel.

578 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:02:53pm

CNN just described the situation as "a protracted ground assault"

WTF?

579 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:02:53pm

re: #529 Silhouette

OT - Momentary heart attack.

I read Denver schools chief named to fill Senate vacancy and for a horror-filled second, thought they meant Ward Churchill.

He's a life long democrat. Other than that, he is pretty much an unknown. Gov. Bill Ritter, who campaigned as a centrist -- then moved sharply to the pro-union left after the election, is not to be trusted. I suspect this guy is a big government nanny state pro-union bureaucrat. but who knows.

580 Dave the.....  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:03:54pm

King Hussein was known as an okay guy during his stays at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota. Liked to cruise the area and go out and eat.

So if you ever get this trivia question: "Where did mideast rulers hang out with Amish farmers?", the answer is Lansboro Minnesota.

581 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:04:12pm

re: #571 Fredlike

Sigh. The good old days.......

582 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:04:15pm

re: #539 summergurl

It's all one big incestuous nest of moonbats.

Her grandfather was an oil broker and opened a rug boutique in Neiman-Marcus in the 1920s.

583 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:04:23pm

re: #565 lifeofthemind

Was, Father was Habib who ran an airline.

Pan Am

584 Promethea  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:04:42pm

re: #193 Joo-LiZ

I wonder what your father would say if he knew you were Zombie.

Zombie, be careful you don't give any more personal information about yourself so that you can be identified.

I know you're careful, but the North Korea thing is too specific.

585 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:05:02pm
586 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:05:16pm

Is it peace yet?

587 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:05:27pm

re: #584 Promethea

Zombie, be careful you don't give any more personal information about yourself so that you can be identified.

I know you're careful, but the North Korea thing is too specific.

There were a shit load of American troops in korea during the war.

588 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:05:36pm

re: #483 Outrider

folks like that I like to egg on occasionally. Keep bringing up new conspiracies. Hell, make some up. Tie them together into one large conspiracy bringing Bigfoot (who was a Mason) and the Loch Ness Monster, and the Ilumunatii (who are actually space aliens bent on one world government) all meeting with Jimmy Hoffa, Jim Morrison, Elvis and Barny the Dinosaur at Area 51 to discuss methods of concealing the truth about the space programs and WTC bombings.

Might as well get some entertainment out of the evening. ;-)>


Now that would be a fun evening!

589 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:05:47pm

re: #570 MandyManners

Kinda' feels like he's bit our hand.

I'm still trying to figure it out. I met him and King Hussein back in '85 and talked quite a bit with Abdullah. He seemed thoroughly westernized and hell bent on Westernizing Jordan totally. He ~may~ have been blowing smoke, but why BS an Army SFC that has no national input? He may have other realities by this time.

590 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:05:59pm

re: #558 WhiteRasta

Isn't Noor an American?

Yep. She was born Lisa Halaby.

591 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:06:24pm

re: #584 Promethea

Zombie, be careful you don't give any more personal information about yourself so that you can be identified.

I know you're careful, but the North Korea thing is too specific.

Not to worry. Very few people actually know my war is a Korean War vet. He doesn't advertise it. And as for himself, he doesn't even know the right side of the blogosphere even exists.

592 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:06:28pm

re: #575 Wishing

Sorry, not even close to the insanity posted at top of this thread.
It is like...something let go or something? We went past a boundary?
Am not sure at all, but it is DIFFERENT.

I agree with you. My observation says that this show of
aggression is becoming more threatening and has pushed beyond the limits of verbal protesting. The Israeli consulate is the site of the protest tonight in SF.
I hope they have more police present at this protest.

593 tackle  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:06:42pm

re: #439 Outrider

not and still keep the house anyway. The stuff of political toons. ;-)>

It's funny how many promises we've already forgotten. Everything seemed so urgent two months ago.

594 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:06:47pm

re: #577 jcm

LOL.
I hear mostly "There were no WMD" - over and over and over...
We should have left nice uncle Saddam alone.
(even though these same people were pissed we didn't finish the job when Colin Powell was in change)

595 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:06:48pm

re: #584 Promethea

Zombie, be careful you don't give any more personal information about yourself so that you can be identified.

I know you're careful, but the North Korea thing is too specific.

Yes and Answer has ties to the Norks, but that place is full of zombies any way so how could they tell?

I refuse to dignify with a sarc tag so there pfffft

596 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:06:53pm

re: #578 jamgarr

CNN just described the situation as "a protracted ground assault"

WTF?

Protracted, yep, started at 11am today...it is protracted if it runs past 8 hours.

597 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:06:54pm

re: #590 MandyManners

Yep. She was born Lisa Halaby.

Didn't she go to Princeton or some other Ivy league school?

598 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:06:58pm

re: #573 Hengineer

At the same time I know plenty that don't. Maybe we see just see different people.

Could be. I've met far too many hard workers in federal employment over the decades. Could be you are associating with the different crowd and that is what you notice the most.

599 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:06:59pm

re: #576 WhiteRasta

How many wives does he have? The big studley guy? And how many sons?

One, Rania. Two sons, two daughters.

600 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:06:59pm
601 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:07:10pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got a home remedy for cleaning a laptop screen?

Baby wipes

602 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:07:22pm

re: #589 Outrider

I'm still trying to figure it out. I met him and King Hussein back in '85 and talked quite a bit with Abdullah. He seemed thoroughly westernized and hell bent on Westernizing Jordan totally. He ~may~ have been blowing smoke, but why BS an Army SFC that has no national input? He may have other realities by this time.

He's gone native?

603 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:07:46pm

re: #596 Wishing

Protracted, yep, started at 11am today...it is protracted if it runs past 8 hours.

Shit we would have been in deep dodo at Normandy. How long did it take Monty to take Caen?

604 mjwsatx  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:07:47pm

re: #589 Outrider

Things change when you're sittin' on the throne.

Same thing will happen to Obama. No telling what he'll do.

605 flagpony  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:07:58pm

re: #403 gulfloafer
beat me to the punch!

606 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:08:04pm

re: #589 Outrider

I'm still trying to figure it out. I met him and King Hussein back in '85 and talked quite a bit with Abdullah. He seemed thoroughly westernized and hell bent on Westernizing Jordan totally. He ~may~ have been blowing smoke, but why BS an Army SFC that has no national input? He may have other realities by this time.

He surely doesn't want the Jordyptians back in his land.

607 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:08:22pm

re: #592 notutopia

I agree with you. My observation says that this show of
aggression is becoming more threatening and has pushed beyond the limits of verbal protesting. The Israeli consulate is the site of the protest tonight in SF.
I hope they have more police present at this protest.

Well my concern, after watching the above vid, is that the COPS aren't scared...and yet I think they are.

608 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:08:26pm

re: #580 Dave the.....

King Hussein was known as an okay guy during his stays at the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota. Liked to cruise the area and go out and eat.

So if you ever get this trivia question: "Where did mideast rulers hang out with Amish farmers?", the answer is Lansboro Minnesota.

shoot! that particular question pops up all the time and I never knew! Thanks. lol ;-)>

609 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:08:30pm

re: #483 Outrider

folks like that I like to egg on occasionally. Keep bringing up new conspiracies. Hell, make some up. Tie them together into one large conspiracy bringing Bigfoot (who was a Mason) and the Loch Ness Monster, and the Ilumunatii (who are actually space aliens bent on one world government) all meeting with Jimmy Hoffa, Jim Morrison, Elvis and Barny the Dinosaur at Area 51 to discuss methods of concealing the truth about the space programs and WTC bombings.

Might as well get some entertainment out of the evening. ;-)>

Damn, how did the word get out? Now we have to move the meeting again.

610 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:08:32pm

re: #483 Outrider

Bigfoot (who was a Mason)

I knew it!

611 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:08:33pm

I watching Mike Tobin doing a live report on the Gaza border and you can hear the booming explosions in the background. It sounds like a sever thunderstorm.

612 SaneInMN  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:08:44pm

re: #580 Dave the.....

He liked Cabelas, out in Owatonna. Heard he was quite the hunter.

613 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:08:54pm

re: #525 WhiteRasta

Please tell me it was snowing outside as she was shreeching.......

614 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:09:10pm

re: #594 FrogMarch

LOL.
I hear mostly "There were no WMD" - over and over and over...
We should have left nice uncle Saddam alone.
(even though these same people were pissed we didn't finish the job when Colin Powell was in change)

And are outraged that Bush didn't prevent 911 (if they don't think he did it).

615 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:09:23pm

re: #597 Nevergiveup

Didn't she go to Princeton or some other Ivy league school?

Yep, and to some exclusive schools before then.

616 Fredlike  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:09:26pm

re: #581 WhiteRasta

Sigh. The good old days.......

Not so good if you didn't become the new ruler, but it did provide incentive to keep dad alive for as long as possible.

617 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:09:34pm

re: #578 jamgarr

CNN just described the situation as "a protracted ground assault"

WTF?

It didn't wrap up in one of their 30 minute news cycles.

618 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:09:36pm

re: #600 ploome hineni

Yes, I know, I've heard some remarks over the years that really creep me out.

The world really is divided between those on the side of life and those who are not.

619 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:09:38pm

Propaganda alert on FOX. Ashwari Alert on Fox. Bullshit alert on FOX.

620 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:09:54pm
621 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:10:23pm

re: #614 Silhouette

And are outraged that Bush didn't prevent 911 (if they don't think he did it).

Precisely.

622 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:10:25pm
623 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:10:46pm

re: #602 itellu3times

He's gone native?

probably. like I said; as King, he probably has a whole new set of realities.

624 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:10:54pm

re: #620 ploome hineni

fraking Geraldo apologizing to Hanan Ashwari for telling her, the Mosque that was bombed was full of ammunition

and there she goes lying again

Again? She stopped?

625 TaeJohnDo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:11:07pm

re: #573 Hengineer

At the same time I know plenty that don't. Maybe we see just see different people.

I work in one of those big buildings. I see both. Interesting personal observation: with few exceptions going both ways, most of the lazy ones voted for the O, the hard working ones voted for McCain.

626 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:11:16pm

re: #598 Outrider

Could be. I've met far too many hard workers in federal employment over the decades. Could be you are associating with the different crowd and that is what you notice the most.

Considering that the ones I'm referring to are the federal workers who are supposed to be helping us CIVMARS out, the Civilian Mariners like myself who sail for Military Sealift Command on the US Navy Fleet Support Auxiliary ships...

Granted they may think they be hard workers, but we sure as hell can't tell. Hell when the Engine Department Licensed "Marine Placement Specialist" was this one gal, I could NEVER get her on the phone, and was told by older Mariners that they have caller ID.

627 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:11:18pm

re: #584 Promethea

Zombie, be careful you don't give any more personal information about yourself so that you can be identified.

I know you're careful, but the North Korea thing is too specific.

Zombie likes to misdirect. For all we know Zombie's dad did service in Germany, or maybe is a Canadian and never served in the U.S. military at all.

628 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:11:26pm

re: #620 ploome hineni

fraking Geraldo apologizing to Hanan Ashwari for telling her, the Mosque that was bombed was full of ammunition

and there she goes lying again

She said Israel is deliberately killing children and Geraldo didn't challenger her on it.

[spit]

629 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:11:38pm
630 mjwsatx  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:12:14pm

re: #619 Nevergiveup

She is saying that there were no weapons in the mosque that the IDF blew up. She called the charge that there were weapons there libel. She is an idiot and Geraldo is a bigger idiot for interviewing her.

631 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:12:22pm

re: #589 Outrider

I'm still trying to figure it out. I met him and King Hussein back in '85 and talked quite a bit with Abdullah. He seemed thoroughly westernized and hell bent on Westernizing Jordan totally. He ~may~ have been blowing smoke, but why BS an Army SFC that has no national input? He may have other realities by this time.

He went to boarding school in New Hampshire IIRC, I think the pro-American ism is true but I think the anti-Semitism is also true, more so than with his father. Hussein was not an ideologue he was a survivor who had seen the King assassinated before his eyes when he was 16 in Jerusalem. Hussein had the same enemies Israel had.

632 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:12:25pm
633 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:12:31pm

re: #606 MandyManners

He surely doesn't want the Jordyptians back in his land.

Ha. Nobody does apparently. Small wonder. They whacked the first King Abdullah. And tried to get his daddy twice (at least). I suspect his sympathies for them are contingent on their being a distance away.

634 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:12:31pm

re: #622 Iron Fist

They always like to ignore the fact that Saddam had WMD programs that were essentially mothballed waiting for sanctions to end so they could spin up and start cranking out the ordanance. And if Bush had backed down, sanctions would have rapidly collapsed. The whole foundation of the sanctions would have collapsed.

And places like France and Russia were waiting to ramp up their military and dual-use equipment to Iraq. They figured that Saddam would have money burning a hole in his pocket and a deep thirst for weapons. For conversational reasons, of course.

The Norko's where and are hard up for cash. The NorKo's have played with Syria, how much was for sale with the right price. Saddam could have made an attractive offer.

635 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:13:05pm

re: #601 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Baby wipes

Don't babies squirm when you do that?

636 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:13:24pm

Okay, I'm watching Star Trek. The Captain, Chekov, Scotty, Bones, and an unknown female crew member have beamed down.

Who wants to give odds on the woman's life?

637 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:13:27pm

re: #629 ploome hineni

Does anyone take Geraldo seriously?

The guy is a buffoon and an ass clown.....

638 summergurl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:13:27pm

re: #568 Ojoe

I would like to see the scientific evidence that the earth has definitely left behind its recurring ice ages ( Pleistocene ) otherwise I think that what we are really doing is not global warming but preventing the next Laurentide Ice Sheet.


You're too smart for me - all I know is its cold outside.

639 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:13:32pm
640 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:13:44pm

Colts 17 chargers 14 but driving. Better than listening to Geraldo and that bitch.

641 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:13:45pm

re: #633 Outrider

Ha. Nobody does apparently. Small wonder. They whacked the first King Abdullah. And tried to get his daddy twice (at least). I suspect his sympathies for them are contingent on their being a distance away.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

642 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:13:53pm

re: #633 Outrider

Ha. Nobody does apparently. Small wonder. They whacked the first King Abdullah. And tried to get his daddy twice (at least). I suspect his sympathies for them are contingent on their being a distance away.

They are stuffed in the "refugee" camps because their Arab brothers want nothing to do with them, other than as a foil against Israel.

643 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:14pm

re: #636 Silhouette

Okay, I'm watching Star Trek. The Captain, Chekov, Scotty, Bones, and an unknown female crew member have beamed down.

Who wants to give odds on the woman's life?

Red uniform? Before the next commercial she is toast.

644 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:14pm
645 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:17pm

re: #637 WhiteRasta

Does anyone take Geraldo seriously?

The guy is a buffoon and an ass clown.....

I'm still waiting to see what was in Al Capone's secret vault.

646 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:17pm

re: #609 lifeofthemind

Damn, how did the word get out? Now we have to move the meeting again.

It's that whole ESP thing. The National Enquirer has paid clairvoyants on staff to detect these changes. ;-)>

647 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:26pm

re: #597 Nevergiveup

Didn't she go to Princeton or some other Ivy league school?

Proving she can be as intelligent, warm and personable as WAB

648 dmandman  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:34pm

re: #636 Silhouette

What color shirt...if it's Red she's a goner.

649 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:35pm

re: #635 lifeofthemind

Don't babies squirm when you do that?

Babies Squirm... period.

Try 5 drops in each ear and hold still for 5 minutes.

650 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:35pm

re: #636 Silhouette

Okay, I'm watching Star Trek. The Captain, Chekov, Scotty, Bones, and an unknown female crew member have beamed down.

Who wants to give odds on the woman's life?

Her only hope is to stay behind with the antagonist at the end

651 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:38pm

re: #607 Wishing

Well my concern, after watching the above vid, is that the COPS aren't scared...and yet I think they are.


If they are, they wouldn't outwardly show it.
This is what they do. I know it pisses me off to see these
Pali ANSWER asshats play the victim stance though when they were clearly the perps of the pushing and aggression. Thank goodness for video coverage.
Thank the person who had the moxy to take this footage so all can see the hatred.

652 hazzyday  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:49pm

re: #552 Outrider

except for the employees who are a day short of pay. Not all of them are lazy bastards stealing tax dollars engaging in useless tasks.

You could still pay them and the government would still save money. A lot of business has also shifted to the internet for government. No need to keep those long hours anymore. And Governments want to be green but are afraid of letting staff telecommute. The employees that just answer and route phone calls could do that from home easily.

653 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:14:51pm

Just listed to the Pali woman on FNC.

Gonna be sick.

654 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:15:07pm
655 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:15:09pm

re: #643 SurferDoc

Red uniform? Before the next commercial she is toast.

Gold. But I'm still not selling her life insurance.

656 mjwsatx  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:15:20pm

Ashwari "Human lives have equal value."

What about the lives of the residents of Sderot?

To Hamas Jewish lives have no value.

657 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:15:25pm

re: #636 Silhouette

Okay, I'm watching Star Trek. The Captain, Chekov, Scotty, Bones, and an unknown female crew member have beamed down.

Who wants to give odds on the woman's life?

The only lines a red shirt ever gets:

"Captain! I've found something...AAAAUUUUUUGGGHH!"

658 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:15:27pm

re: #637 WhiteRasta

Does anyone take Geraldo seriously?

The guy is a buffoon and an ass clown.....

Geraldo's credibility has the same value as what was found in Capone's vault.

659 hazzyday  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:15:40pm

re: #628 njdhockeyfan

She said Israel is deliberately killing children and Geraldo didn't challenger her on it.

[spit]

somewhere in his career Geraldo was castrated. Not sure where.

660 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:15:44pm

re: #645 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm still waiting to see what was in Al Capone's secret vault.

The same thing that is in shit for brains head-nothing.

661 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:15:55pm

re: #631 lifeofthemind

Hussein dealt with the PLO thugs the way they should have been dealt with.

Too bad he did not off the Arafish.

662 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:16:07pm
663 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:16:09pm

re: #655 Silhouette

Gold. But I'm still not selling her life insurance.

"It" either kills her or abducts her for killing later.

664 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:16:26pm

re: #655 Silhouette

Gold. But I'm still not selling her life insurance.

If she's hot and Kirk is, well, Kirk... she may live to the end of the episode.

665 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:16:43pm

re: #299 ArmyWife

It IS Zombie's father, here. We shouldn't call him a moron. My mother is also a lefty taken in by each and every talking point and can't articulate WHY she is a liberal beyond those specific points. But she is my mom and I love her despite this affliction.

I don't care who it is. If you honestly believe it's better in North Korea, where millions have and are starving to death and eating the bark off of trees, than it is here, you're a MORON! I'd say the same thing if it was my Dad.

666 hazzyday  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:16:47pm

I am guessing 100 percent of these Iman's and protestors are Obama voters. Probably double voters.

667 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:16:57pm

re: #636 Silhouette

1 Quatloo or less.

668 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:16:58pm

re: #659 hazzyday

somewhere in his career Geraldo was castrated. Not sure where.

I think the 101st did it when he was giving away their position on the desert.

669 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:16:58pm

Ashwari attended the Ramallah Friends Girls School.

CBBHO's girls will attend a Friends school in DC.

670 nanook  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:17:26pm

re: #365 zombie

I certainly hope not!

Highly unlikely.

I know you realize this, Zombie, but I want to say anyway that you are very much appreciated, respected and admired here in Lizard Land.

671 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:17:43pm

re: #669 MandyManners

Ashwari attended the Ramallah Friends Girls School.

CBBHO's girls will attend a Friends school in DC.

"Friends" of Jew-hating genocidal terrorists.

672 gop_patriot  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:17:59pm

re: #632 ploome hineni

Geraldo is agreeing with her

It's times like this that I'm glad I don't get Fox News. And I sure won't watch CNN or MSNBC. I have stopped watching TV "news" programs altogether.

673 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:18:06pm

re: #656 mjwsatx

Ashwari "Human lives have equal value."

What about the lives of the residents of Sderot?

To Hamas Jewish lives have no value.

Her daddy helped found the PLO.

674 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:18:30pm

re: #671 Alouette

"Friends" of Jew-hating genocidal terrorists.

Quakers?

675 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:19:01pm

For all the Red Shirts: Expendability

676 BakiShamil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:19:09pm

I am watching live cnn tv [Link: www.cnn.com...] a few commentators mention Israel should go back to 1967 borders. I asked why we need to give up more. No more land for peace non sense, it’s a myth. Israel keeps what it has and that’s the end of it. They want peace, they keep what they have.

677 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:19:36pm

re: #626 Hengineer

Considering that the ones I'm referring to are the federal workers who are supposed to be helping us CIVMARS out, the Civilian Mariners like myself who sail for Military Sealift Command on the US Navy Fleet Support Auxiliary ships...

Granted they may think they be hard workers, but we sure as hell can't tell. Hell when the Engine Department Licensed "Marine Placement Specialist" was this one gal, I could NEVER get her on the phone, and was told by older Mariners that they have caller ID.

Never dealt with them. Hell, never even heard of that agency. Sorry, no offense.

Not trying to imply there are no lazy ones. Government employees run to form like all employees-good ones, bad ones.

I don't like generalizations when folks say all government employees are lazy. I hate when people want the budget balanced by whacking government employees and agencies as a blanket statement without considering who those employees are and what jobs they do or what the mission of the agency is.

678 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:19:42pm

Chargers fumble at the 2 yard line- recovered by the colts in the end zone- touchback.

679 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:19:48pm

Dang, I wasn't paying attention. She is in blue, not gold. Same difference.

680 dmandman  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:19:53pm

re: #674 MandyManners

I think thy are "friends" of money now. Poor people are not their friends.

681 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:20:08pm

re: #636 Silhouette

Okay, I'm watching Star Trek. The Captain, Chekov, Scotty, Bones, and an unknown female crew member have beamed down.

Who wants to give odds on the woman's life?

Pretty good, actually.

682 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:20:14pm

re: #664 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

If she's hot and Kirk is, well, Kirk... she may live to the end of the episode.

Doesnt matter, we know how that works.

683 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:20:42pm

re: #676 BakiShamil

I am watching live cnn tv [Link: www.cnn.com...] a few commentators mention Israel should go back to 1967 borders. I asked why we need to give up more. No more land for peace non sense, it’s a myth. Israel keeps what it has and that’s the end of it. They want peace, they keep what they have.

I think Israel should go back to its 1975 borders....

684 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:20:44pm

re: #661 WhiteRasta

Hussein dealt with the PLO thugs the way they should have been dealt with.

Too bad he did not off the Arafish.

Yes but the Bedouin tribes that Hussein depended on are weaker now and have been penetrated by Wahabis, Abdullah is on a much shakier throne.

685 Promethea  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:20:48pm

re: #293 Joo-LiZ

I'm sorry to hear that.

That's the problem with the blogosphere. As much as I hail the dawn of "new media" and responsible "citizen-journalism", unless I point people to the right sites -- the one's with proper citations and references and reliable sources -- they can inevitably find evidence of every conspiracy they can imagine.

I've tried to steer liberal Jews to Instapundit, hoping they'd get a tiny first-step introduction to the alternate media (i.e. non-MSM). So far, not one person has indicated they would do this or have done this. Several have told me that they already read stuff on the internet (so they don't have to learn anything else), and when I asked them what they looked at, they said "Huffington."

Really, I no respect for 99.9% of the so-called educated people I know. Not one of them have given me any slack re my finding new sources of information on the web. I often get a lecture, however, about how I can't trust information on the web and how I should be sure and read "both sides."

Snark, these people are SO dumb.

686 TaeJohnDo  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:20:51pm

re: #626 Hengineer

Considering that the ones I'm referring to are the federal workers who are supposed to be helping us CIVMARS out, the Civilian Mariners like myself who sail for Military Sealift Command on the US Navy Fleet Support Auxiliary ships...

Granted they may think they be hard workers, but we sure as hell can't tell. Hell when the Engine Department Licensed "Marine Placement Specialist" was this one gal, I could NEVER get her on the phone, and was told by older Mariners that they have caller ID.

I work for USTRANSCOM. I wish I could say we make your life easier, but don't want to lie to you.

My wife, not at TRANSCOM has some young AF LTs that work for her. At Thanksgiving half of them refused to answer their phone when there was a phone check in anticipation of a potential recall (India bombing.) They said they were on leave and should not have to.

My wife and I got out of the military in 1990. It has changed a lot, not for the better.

I could go on and on, but life is too short.

687 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:20:52pm

Geraldo is an idiot who badly needs an education before he spreads the idiocy even farther.

It’s also worth looking at the doctrine of distinction, which Israel follows while Hamas does not.

Distinction, according to the Law of Armed Conflict, “means discriminating between lawful combatant targets and noncombatant targets such as civilians, civilian property, POWs, and wounded personnel who are out of combat. The central idea of distinction is to only engage valid military targets. An indiscriminate attack is one that strikes military objectives and civilians or civilian objects without distinction. Distinction requires defenders to separate military objects from civilian objects to the maximum extent feasible. Therefore, it would be inappropriate to locate a hospital or POW camp next to an ammunition factory.”

Hamas violates this doctrine in two ways at once. Its fighters launch Qassam, Katyusha, and Grad rockets into Israeli civilian areas, and they fire those rockets from inside Palestinian civilian areas. Both are prohibited by the Law of Armed Conflict.

The law does not, however, prohibit Israel from striking legitimate military targets in civilian areas. “Although civilians may not be made the object of a direct attack, the LOAC recognizes that a military target need not be spared because its destruction may cause collateral damage that results in the unintended death or injury to civilians or damage to their property.”


[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

688 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:21:22pm

Anyone see this?

We Lived to Tell the Story: Lebanon Rescued Us
by Cynthia McKinney

...My personal, and I know the group's, thanks must go to Al Jazeera, that allowed three of their reporters to be onboard with us on our voyage. As a result, Al Jazeera carried the story of the Dignity live, from castoff in Cyprus when our spirits were high, right up through the manacing maneuvers of the huge, super fast Israeli ships before they rammed us, the Israeli calls on the ship phone after the ramming calling us terrorists and subversives and telling us to return to Cyprus (even though the Israelis later claimed that they didn't know who we were, they knew enough about us to tell us where we had come from), and the fact that we didn't have enough fuel to follow their instructions, right up to their threat to fire at us if we didn't turn around, ending with our beaten-up boat limping into Sour harbor in Lebanon. Al Jazeera carried our story as "breaking news" and performed a real service to its audience and to us. Al Jazeera called the Israelis to inquire about the incident right as it was happening and I am sure the Israelis were prepared to leave none to tell the story. Al Jazeera told the story and documented it as it was happening.

One of those Al Jazeera reporters with us was Sami El-Haj, who was detained in Guantanamo by the United States for six incredibly long years. What an honor to even exchange glances with such a humble man who had endured so much pain at the hands of the U.S. government. I apologized to him that my tax dollars were being used in such a despicable way. And Sami's crime according to the U.S.? Born in Sudan, and reporting for Al Jazeera in Afghanistan, Sami was the wrong color, the wrong nationality, the wrong religion, reporting for the wrong news outfit, telling us the truth about a wrong war. And for that he survived incarceration for six long years. Sami El-Haj, Guantanamo prisoner number 345.

Another incredibly committed journalist who was with us was CNN's Karl Penhaul. Karl reported the truth even when his own station was repeating Israeli disinformation. The fact that we were traveling with these alert journalists added to the flat-footedness and obvious crudeness of the Israeli response. Sadly, Israel has changed its story too many times to count, and that's because they are not telling the truth.

Revoke this bitch's passport!

689 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:22:04pm
690 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:22:12pm

re: #636 Silhouette

Okay, I'm watching Star Trek. The Captain, Chekov, Scotty, Bones, and an unknown female crew member have beamed down.

Who wants to give odds on the woman's life?

twenty quatloons she is toast at even odds. Ten if she is wearing a Red shirt.

691 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:22:38pm
692 kafir lover  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:22:38pm

Meanwhile, under the cover of darkness:

www.kimt.com...]>Franken Declares Victory

(please don't downding the messenger)

693 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:23:10pm

re: #688 njdhockeyfan

I'd say alot, but I don't want to get the stick.

694 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:23:22pm

re: #690 Outrider

twenty quatloons she is toast at even odds. Ten if she is wearing a Red shirt.

Now come on. I'm no expert, but cannot offhand recall *female* crew members getting offed, even red shirts.

695 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:24:08pm

re: #694 itellu3times

Now come on. I'm no expert, but cannot offhand recall *female* crew members getting offed, even red shirts.

They had a couple buy it.

696 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:24:54pm

re: #692 kafir lover

Meanwhile, under the cover of darkness:

Franken Declares Victory

697 dmandman  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:24:56pm

re: #694 itellu3times

What a comedown. From Captain of a Starship to hustling hotel rooms to unsuspecting tourists.

698 godfrey  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:25:42pm

Will the world please pipe down? I'm trying to watch television here.

699 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:25:44pm

re: #652 hazzyday

You could still pay them and the government would still save money. A lot of business has also shifted to the internet for government. No need to keep those long hours anymore. And Governments want to be green but are afraid of letting staff telecommute. The employees that just answer and route phone calls could do that from home easily.

Yeah. My wife has to do that Internet thing using a program that uses Oracle as a platform. It can take up to SIX FREAKING hours to run one update to the figures. She has to do this at home because of cutbacks that reduced staff by a couple of people but NOT the workload. Great idea.

700 gclaghorn  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:25:57pm

re: #688 njdhockeyfan

Revoke this bitch's passport!

Send her on a trip out of the country, and then revoke her passport.

701 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:25:59pm

re: #696 Nevergiveup

Maybe Israel should invade Minnesota since it is calling up all those reservists?

702 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:26:03pm

re: #697 dmandman

What a comedown. From Captain of a Starship to hustling hotel rooms to unsuspecting tourists.

What did you think would happen? He burned his Starship up in the atmosphere. What does one of those things cost, anyway?

703 Promethea  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:26:09pm

Re my #685 . . .

If anyone ever wonders why I spend so much time on LGF and why I upding so much, it's because I'm starved for adult conversation with people who actually think about things and have some practical experience in various fields.

My updings are my silent "uh-huhs" and "head-nods." I'm pretending that we're all gathered round together having an intelligent conversation.

/Pitiful me, living my intellectual life on the web. :-(

704 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:26:09pm

re: #685 Promethea

On the subject of your post, I remember how the very next morning after McCain picked Palin, the locals here who get their news - their whole sum total of thought really - from NPR and Pacifica Radio, were tut-tutting to each other in hushed, outraged and shocked tones, about what an idiot Palin was, about whom they had known little or nothing the day or at most week before.

These people are the deepest idiots, out of laziness willing to let others fill their brain with whatever.

705 zombie  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:26:12pm

re: #670 nanook

I know you realize this, Zombie, but I want to say anyway that you are very much appreciated, respected and admired here in Lizard Land.

/blushes!

706 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:26:35pm
707 godfrey  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:26:55pm

Hillary gets diagnosed with something. McKinney appointed to take her place.

708 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:26:58pm

re: #688 njdhockeyfan

Mindboggling. Had she been born in any other country the most she could achieve would be side show circus work. In this country she got all the way to Congress, yet she spits on our faces.

Ms. McKinney, on behalf of many of us, stay your butt in Lebanon with your new terrorist buddy Sami. Perhaps Al Jazeera will give you a Show: Circus Time with Cynthia McKinney.

709 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:27:08pm

re: #636 Silhouette

Okay, I'm watching Star Trek. The Captain, Chekov, Scotty, Bones, and an unknown female crew member have beamed down.

Who wants to give odds on the woman's life?

Does she have a red shirt?

710 hazzyday  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:28:12pm

re: #555 Hengineer

Its not like the people in those big federal buildings do any work on Fridays anyway....

I worked in government a long time. A large percentage of the workload is fluff work. Actual work for the people can be done in four days or less, especially with the internet. Emergency services excepted. Look at the hours Judges keep. Anyone sneezes they will call it a day and go home early. Modern Government is essentially an over complication of society that provides employment and over regulation of the rest of the country. Example would be any Federal government institutions and it's volumes of manuals and it's inability to react to an individual.

711 SpartanWoman  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:28:13pm

re: #620 ploome hineni

fraking Geraldo apologizing to Hanan Ashwari for telling her, the Mosque that was bombed was full of ammunition

and there she goes lying again

Mosque=munitions dump

712 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:28:31pm

re: #680 dmandman

I think thy are "friends" of money now. Poor people are not their friends.

The Sidwell school's tuition is $28,000.00.

713 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:29:34pm

re: #712 MandyManners

The Sidwell school's tuition is $28,000.00.

Wonder if BHO pays retail?

714 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:29:34pm

re: #636 Silhouette

Okay, I'm watching Star Trek. The Captain, Chekov, Scotty, Bones, and an unknown female crew member have beamed down.

Who wants to give odds on the woman's life?

or at least as a captive.

715 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:29:40pm

re: #708 ArmyWife

Perhaps Al Jazeera will give you a Show: Circus Time with Cynthia McKinney.

Well, at least there'd be no need to find an elephant.

716 godfrey  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:29:43pm

re: #711 SpartanWoman

Mosque=munitions dump

You've heard of the famous "al-Attacksa" mosque, surely.

717 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:29:57pm
718 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:30:05pm

re: #39 Amy

ANSWER, I believe.

ANSWER signs are uniform at every protest. The creeps in scarves may be from the group Al-Awda or they could just be Berkeley or SF State University students with time to kill.

719 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:30:08pm

re: #711 SpartanWoman

I got deleted here once (long ago) for saying that mosque means target, but now in some areas it does.

720 Hengineer  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:30:25pm

re: #710 hazzyday

I worked in government a long time. A large percentage of the workload is fluff work. Actual work for the people can be done in four days or less, especially with the internet. Emergency services excepted. Look at the hours Judges keep. Anyone sneezes they will call it a day and go home early. Modern Government is essentially an over complication of society that provides employment and over regulation of the rest of the country. Example would be any Federal government institutions and it's volumes of manuals and it's inability to react to an individual.

Fluff work is used in maintaining the bureaucracy.

721 gclaghorn  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:30:27pm

re: #712 MandyManners

The Sidwell school's tuition is $28,000.00.

Your tax dollars at work.

722 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:30:29pm

re: #691 ploome hineni

she is Christian!

her dad really did?

Her father, Daoud Mikhail, was a founder of the Palestine Liberation Organization.

723 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:30:32pm

re: #715 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Well, at least there'd be no need to find an elephant.

You mean Rosie would be on the show too?

724 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:30:52pm

re: #709 Kosh's Shadow

Does she have a red shirt?

Will she die before or after Kirk boinks the green alien hotty,, THATS the question!

725 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:30:59pm
726 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:31:06pm

re: #688 njdhockeyfan

Yep, I saw that on Indymedia yesterday. They're lucky Lebanon saved their worthless asses.

727 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:31:44pm

re: #713 lifeofthemind

Wonder if BHO pays retail?

I wonder if they offer a discount for more than one student.

728 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:31:56pm

Who is the asshat on CNN? the reporter? the guy is a nutcase!

729 SpartanWoman  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:32:01pm

re: #719 Ojoe

I didn't say "target" I said munitions dump, just like schools and hospitals are also great places to store their rockets

730 godfrey  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:32:14pm

re: #722 MandyManners

Why doesn't Daoud Mikhail have a wiki page... Could someone verify and put it up?

731 BakiShamil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:32:22pm

No why we should go back to 1975 borders. Enough is enough of this non sense.


re: #683 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

732 dmandman  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:32:30pm

re: #712 MandyManners

The Obama's got a special diversity scholarship. Not enough children of Presidents attending, so they have to do some affirmative action. Remember Michelle's interview of how they were financially strapped with all those student loans they were paying. Well the "friends" must have heard about it and made some accommodations for the poor stressed out family.

733 hazzyday  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:32:44pm

re: #699 Outrider

Yeah. My wife has to do that Internet thing using a program that uses Oracle as a platform. It can take up to SIX FREAKING hours to run one update to the figures. She has to do this at home because of cutbacks that reduced staff by a couple of people but NOT the workload. Great idea.

A lot of government workload is middle managers holding onto reports they think they need but don't. And Oracle.... don't let them in the door. Easy entry fees, then huge licensing costs and they have their hooks in you and there is no way you can get away from them anymore.

734 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:32:47pm

* Yellow-shirt crewperson deaths: 6 (10%)
* Blue-Shirt crewperson deaths: 5 (8 %)
* Engineering smock crewperson deaths: 4
* Red-Shirt crewperson deaths: 43 (73%) …

(I am ashamed that I know how to find this information.)

735 avspatti  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:34:01pm

re: #721 gclaghorn

Your tax dollars at work.

Each?

736 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:34:12pm

re: #694 itellu3times

Now come on. I'm no expert, but cannot offhand recall *female* crew members getting offed, even red shirts.

Oh sure. A couple of times. One was "By Any Other Name" where the Kelvins turned them to cubes and squashed the female cube. Remember now?

737 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:34:16pm

Holy Land Foundation case puts burden on Muslim charities

American Muslims are finding it more difficult to donate money to help Palestinian refugees and other Middle Eastern causes because of court decisions showing that some charities were using the money for terrorism.

Good.

738 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:34:18pm

re: #689 Iron Fist

Yeah, there's really no predicting how the Norks are going to jump. It is pretty much the most insane government on the planet (edging out Robert Mugabe), and the only thing they have to export is military hardware. Fortunately, their nuke program pretty much went tits up even though L'il Kim suckered Jimmy Carter and the Clinton Administration on it for years.

And with several thousand artillery tubes pointed at Seoul, doing anything at becomes problematic.

739 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:34:23pm
740 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:34:23pm

re: #731 BakiShamil

No why we should go back to 1975 borders. Enough is enough of this non sense.

It would go forward... West Bank back entirely, about half of Sinai, and the Golan as a buffer (going off memory here, if not, go to the 1972 borders, all of all of them.

741 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:34:54pm

re: #734 SurferDoc

* Yellow-shirt crewperson deaths: 6 (10%)
* Blue-Shirt crewperson deaths: 5 (8 %)
* Engineering smock crewperson deaths: 4
* Red-Shirt crewperson deaths: 43 (73%) …

(I am ashamed that I know how to find this information.)


Red-Shirt crewperson deaths: near 100% on a Kirk away team.

742 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:35:00pm

re: #703 Promethea

Re my #685 . . .

If anyone ever wonders why I spend so much time on LGF and why I upding so much, it's because I'm starved for adult conversation with people who actually think about things and have some practical experience in various fields.

My updings are my silent "uh-huhs" and "head-nods." I'm pretending that we're all gathered round together having an intelligent conversation.

/Pitiful me, living my intellectual life on the web. :-(

You are not alone. I have had the same thought.

743 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:35:00pm

re: #734 SurferDoc

Does that exclude main cast members? Because clearly Kirk isn't going to die, but he shouldn't count in the "surviving" percentage.

744 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:35:37pm
745 Russkilitlover  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:35:38pm

Here's a thought.....Schwarzenegger for mid east envoy. Send in Ahnorld. He has some good thoughts.

746 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:35:43pm

Operation Cast Lead T-shirts now available at the Zionist Mall!

747 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:35:49pm

Just in for a moment before hitting the sack.
Have just checked the JPost, Ha'aretz, YNet, IsreallyCool, Mugata, etc.
Is there anything that I probably don't know regarding the ground ops?

748 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:36:47pm

re: #712 MandyManners

The Sidwell school's tuition is $28,000.00.

Go to the Sidwell Friends website and check out the lunch menus-

[Link: www.sidwell.edu...]

749 SpartanWoman  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:37:11pm

re: #742 SurferDoc

My husband will only talk about movies and his colleagues

750 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:37:27pm

re: #747 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just in for a moment before hitting the sack.
Have just checked the JPost, Ha'aretz, YNet, IsreallyCool, Mugata, etc.
Is there anything that I probably don't know regarding the ground ops?

Probably not. No details yet. Lots of Pali apologists. Nothing new to see yet.

751 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:37:54pm

re: #734 SurferDoc

* Yellow-shirt crewperson deaths: 6 (10%)
* Blue-Shirt crewperson deaths: 5 (8 %)
* Engineering smock crewperson deaths: 4
* Red-Shirt crewperson deaths: 43 (73%) …

(I am ashamed that I know how to find this information.)

OK doc, but give us an episode where a *female* crewperson is lost, I'm still not recalling any.

OK, first episode, second pilot, Doctor Elizabeth Dehner sacrifices herself, but is that about it?

752 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:38:03pm

re: #743 Silhouette

Does that exclude main cast members? Because clearly Kirk isn't going to die, but he shouldn't count in the "surviving" percentage.

Those are the numbers and percentages of the extras they killed off on away missions. No lead characters included there.

753 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:38:07pm

re: #703 Promethea

Re my #685 . . .

If anyone ever wonders why I spend so much time on LGF and why I upding so much, it's because I'm starved for adult conversation with people who actually think about things and have some practical experience in various fields.

My updings are my silent "uh-huhs" and "head-nods." I'm pretending that we're all gathered round together having an intelligent conversation.

/Pitiful me, living my intellectual life on the web. :-(

Can you imagine : What if we ALL lived in the same town or even the same state?

754 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:38:18pm

re: #730 godfrey

Why doesn't Daoud Mikhail have a wiki page... Could someone verify and put it up?

Beats me.

755 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:38:33pm

First sighting of Gaza "quagmire?"
(4th para in story)

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

756 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:38:45pm

re: #733 hazzyday

A lot of government workload is middle managers holding onto reports they think they need but don't. And Oracle.... don't let them in the door. Easy entry fees, then huge licensing costs and they have their hooks in you and there is no way you can get away from them anymore.

Tell government IT folks that despise MS. They really HAD to buy Oracle. Remember the government was too busy suing MS.

For anyones personal edification? Oracle sucks and if it wasn't for the government? They would be gone.

757 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:38:53pm

re: #730 godfrey

Why doesn't Daoud Mikhail have a wiki page... Could someone verify and put it up?

Because: nobody gives a shit.

758 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:38:54pm

re: #736 Outrider

Oh sure. A couple of times. One was "By Any Other Name" where the Kelvins turned them to cubes and squashed the female cube. Remember now?

Well, er, OK, we'll count that one.

759 dmandman  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:39:01pm

re: #741 jcm

A few years ago, my boys attended a SF Convention where actually one of the "guests of honor" sole claim to fame was an episode where he wore the infamous 'red shirt' and was BEM food before the first commercial break.

760 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:39:19pm

re: #732 dmandman

The Obama's got a special diversity scholarship. Not enough children of Presidents attending, so they have to do some affirmative action. Remember Michelle's interview of how they were financially strapped with all those student loans they were paying. Well the "friends" must have heard about it and made some accommodations for the poor stressed out family.

WAB also said the only thing she could buy with the $600.00 stimulus check was a pair of earrings.

761 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:39:35pm

re: #749 SpartanWoman

My husband will only talk about movies and his colleagues

My ex-wife (with a Master's degree) would sit for hours watching sports on TV. How's THAT for a switch?

762 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:39:38pm

re: #751 itellu3times

OK doc, but give us an episode where a *female* crewperson is lost, I'm still not recalling any.

OK, first episode, second pilot, Doctor Elizabeth Dehner sacrifices herself, but is that about it?

Charlie X, the kid who could alter reality with his mind, erased the face off a femal crew member and left her to die

763 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:39:54pm

re: #755 jaunte

First sighting of Gaza "quagmire?"
(4th para in story)

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

MSM = Imagination Black Hole. There is nothing that can escape, even at the speed of light.

764 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:40:12pm

re: #759 dmandman

A few years ago, my boys attended a SF Convention where actually one of the "guests of honor" sole claim to fame was an episode where he wore the infamous 'red shirt' and was BEM food before the first commercial break.

LOL!

765 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:40:19pm

re: #739 ploome hineni

look at the dress that 10 yr old is wearing

who dresses a 10 yr old like that?

WAB.

766 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:40:27pm
767 gclaghorn  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:40:29pm

re: #748 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Go to the Sidwell Friends website and check out the lunch menus-

[Link: www.sidwell.edu...]

That's just plain crazy.

768 godfrey  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:40:31pm

re: #754 MandyManners

Definitely involved, cf. here.

769 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:40:51pm

re: #739 ploome hineni

look at the dress that 10 yr old is wearing

who dresses a 10 yr old like that?

the same person that wore that ugly assed black and red thing to the acceptance speech.

770 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:40:51pm

re: #759 dmandman

A few years ago, my boys attended a SF Convention where actually one of the "guests of honor" sole claim to fame was an episode where he wore the infamous 'red shirt' and was BEM food before the first commercial break.

Oh, if you found out someone was a dead red shirt, you'd just HAVE to buy them a beer.

771 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:41:15pm
772 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:41:18pm

re: #749 SpartanWoman

My husband will only talk about movies and his colleagues

I pretty much made my own bed. I won't talk politics in real life. Very few people I know can talk books, movies, music, guns. That is why I am on forums. I don't really mind that much but at times it does seem sad.

773 Render  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:41:35pm

re: #745 Russkilitlover

Only if he goes in full Terminator costume. With Harley, shades, mini-gun, and lever action 12 gauge.

But I'm thinking Bruce Willis/5th Element...

NEGOTIATE?,
R

774 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:41:44pm

re: #755 jaunte

First sighting of Gaza "quagmire?"
(4th para in story)

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Yep on CNN the reporter made a reference to this *turning into a Lebanon-like situation*.
I think Hamas would LIKE to see that, but I think Israel has learned a few lessons and are letting the IDF do its job.

775 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:41:58pm

re: #755 jaunte

First sighting of Gaza "quagmire?"
(4th para in story)

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

That may be a record.

776 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:42:07pm

re: #748 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Go to the Sidwell Friends website and check out the lunch menus-

[Link: www.sidwell.edu...]

Looks yummy.

777 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:42:08pm

re: #750 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Probably not. No details yet. Lots of Pali apologists. Nothing new to see yet.

Thanks. Figured there wouldn't be much until morning, but ... the only dumb question ....

778 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:42:29pm

re: #751 itellu3times

OK doc, but give us an episode where a *female* crewperson is lost, I'm still not recalling any.

OK, first episode, second pilot, Doctor Elizabeth Dehner sacrifices herself, but is that about it?

"By any other name" Kelvans killed her.

779 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:42:36pm
780 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:42:49pm

re: #765 MandyManners

WAB.

Mandy, I missed the meaning of that acronym..is it Wide A**ed B*tch ?

781 godfrey  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:42:50pm

re: #757 Alouette

A "founder" of the PLO, and no shit given. Just like Tariq Ramadan's father and grandfather.

782 SpartanWoman  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:42:54pm

re: #767 gclaghorn

You have to start training little elitists at an early age

783 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:43:53pm

re: #778 Outrider

"By any other name" Kelvans killed her.

TNG, (I know, not fair) the security chief.

784 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:44:04pm

re: #762 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Charlie X, the kid who could alter reality with his mind, erased the face off a femal crew member and left her to die

Hmm, never liked that ep. Memory Alpha says maybe those defaced, were restored.

785 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:44:05pm

re: #755 jaunte

First sighting of Gaza "quagmire?"
(4th para in story)

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Notice the writers:

By Gwen Ackerman and Saud Abu Ramadan

786 gclaghorn  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:44:07pm

re: #782 SpartanWoman

You have to start training little elitists at an early age

Imagine the horror when they order prosciutto and all the restaurant has is "ham"!

787 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:44:34pm

Vocabulary word for the day

Liquidity: When you look at your investments and wet your pants.

788 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:44:57pm

re: #762 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Charlie X, the kid who could alter reality with his mind, erased the face off a femal crew member and left her to die

Robert Walker's son, BTW.

789 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:45:07pm

re: #784 itellu3times

Hmm, never liked that ep. Memory Alpha says maybe those defaced, were restored.

She got left alone for a while. I assumed she would have suffocated rather quickly

790 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:45:18pm

re: #771 ploome hineni

what is that?

WhineyAssBitch.

791 Zimriel  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:45:40pm

re: #762 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Charlie X, the kid who could alter reality with his mind, erased the face off a femal crew member and left her to die

There's also Tasha Yar from TNG season 1. I'd understand if you avoided watching any season 1 eps (the show was best seasons 3-6) but Yar's heroic death was referred back to on several occasions.

(Female crew, and captains, of other ships got toasted quite regularly but they don't count.)

Yeah, I think you're right; in the future, even "progressive" captains try not to put their female crew in harm's way.

792 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:45:58pm
793 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:46:01pm

re: #780 Wishing

Mandy, I missed the meaning of that acronym..is it Wide A**ed B*tch ?

Whiney.

794 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:46:13pm

Good night all.
*prayers for the IDF*

795 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:46:14pm

re: #755 jaunte

First sighting of Gaza "quagmire?"
(4th para in story)

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

8 days and a quagmire.
I wonder what the modern MSM would call the 100 year war.

796 JacksonTn  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:46:24pm

I want ....CNN headquarters moved to the middle east ...they are representatives of Al Jezjerkoffs so they might as well move there ...

I want Christiane Amanpour to stay right where she is and never come back to America ..

I want ...the U.N. moved out of the America ...

Not much to ask for is it? ...

797 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:46:56pm

re: #795 jcm

8 days and a quagmire.
I wonder what the modern MSM would call the 100 year war.

Depends on if the Democrats started it or not

798 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:47:01pm

re: #793 MandyManners

Whiney.

TY

799 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:47:01pm

re: #795 jcm

8 days and a quagmire.
I wonder what the modern MSM would call the 100 year war.

Stability

800 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:47:06pm

re: #791 Zimriel

The Skin of Evil.

801 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:47:40pm

re: #795 jcm

8 days and a quagmire.
I wonder what the modern MSM would call the 100 year war.

A republican majority?

802 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:47:51pm

re: #795 jcm

8 days and a quagmire.
I wonder what the modern MSM would call the 100 year war.

Does the quagmire start from the day of bombing, or the day of ground assault? I'd vote for the day of ground assault.

803 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:47:56pm

re: #700 gclaghorn

Send her on a trip out of the country, and then revoke her passport.

Both her and Carter.

804 gclaghorn  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:48:04pm

re: #795 jcm

8 days and a quagmire.
I wonder what the modern MSM would call the 100 year war.

"Bush's fault."

805 Outrider  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:48:35pm

re: #795 jcm

8 days and a quagmire.
I wonder what the modern MSM would call the 100 year war.

occupational security.

806 avanti  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:48:39pm

re: #739 ploome hineni

look at the dress that 10 yr old is wearing

who dresses a 10 yr old like that?

Must be a regional thing, most all the 9-11 year old girls around here in Maryland have grown up party dresses like that, some even with heels and makeup for a big dress up event.

807 experiencedtraveller  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:48:43pm

re: #755 jaunte

First sighting of Gaza "quagmire?"
(4th para in story)

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Give me a nudge when the Taliban's dreaded Spring Offensive begins...

808 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:49:37pm

I know a guy who hs been to North Korea a few times in the last few years (with US State Dept. approval). I would prefer living on any US garbage heap to that. I'd sure eat better....

809 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:49:58pm
810 godfrey  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:50:10pm

re: #795 jcm

The war reduced France's population by 2/3rds, so it would be called "ecologically sustainable population control to combat global warming."

811 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:50:19pm

As I have been sitting here playing on the internet, my husband has been tearing my kitchen apart. It has now reached maximum disaster status with floors ripped out and other stuff all over the place. I have a dishwasher in my livingroom, as well as cartons of flooring, a hutch and the new kitchen cabinets. He just announced he has done as much damage as is possible for the day, so I am going to head to bed!

812 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:50:21pm

Another familiar buzzword from the same sentence:

"The ground offensive is likely to increase casualties on both sides, with Israel running the risk of finding itself in a quagmire with no easy exit strategy and facing increased international pressure to call a cease-fire."
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Because when you want to stop rockets from being fired at you, what's most important is an exit strategy./

813 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:50:29pm

CNN - Spit!

814 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:50:36pm

I'm in Los Angeles so I dont watch the NFL until the playoffs, how long have they been suiting up munchkins?

815 gclaghorn  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:50:49pm

On CNN right now: the UN Sec'y General is "concerned" about Israel's offensive. Who the hell asked him?

816 Promethea  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:50:54pm

re: #371 J.S.

yeah, family of Moonbats (ditto up here in Canada -- along with relatives in the U.S -- I won't say where they live, but i haven't spoken to them in decades on any serious matters -- just "how's the weather?" and hope it doesn't lead to some Global Warming hysteria)...those in Canada I sort of "understand", since their anti-Americanism is mixed up with their confused idea of what it means to be a patriotic Canadian...(about 2 in our family are somewhat "sensible" -- rest, forgot it.)

Interesting what you said about Canadians' nationalism being intertwined with their anti-Americanism. I think a lot of Jews' religion is mixed up with their support of FDR in the depression and WW2, which carried over into their current nutty support of the Democrat party.

817 mikalm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:51:01pm

re: #786 gclaghorn

Imagine the horror when they order prosciutto and all the restaurant has is "ham"!

This sort of forced-foodie-ism also deprives the students of the basic pleasure of growing up as American Kids. I mean, don't we all have fond memories of chowing down on burgers, pizza, mac-n-cheese, etc at the cafeteria?

818 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:51:04pm

Here is a complete breakdown of Starfleet KIA's.

(My geekiness knoweth no bounds. On the other hand, I am a god of googling.)

StarfleetCasualties

819 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:51:38pm

re: #812 jaunte

Another familiar buzzword from the same sentence:

"The ground offensive is likely to increase casualties on both sides, with Israel running the risk of finding itself in a quagmire with no easy exit strategy and facing increased international pressure to call a cease-fire."
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Because when you want to stop rockets from being fired at you, what's most important is an exit strategy./

When the entire territory is about five miles wide, exit strategy is how tricky?

820 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:52:22pm

re: #792 Iron Fist

Very, messy but also very doable.

821 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:52:23pm

re: #806 avanti

I am in Maryland with a 10 year old. She does NOT dress like that. Ever. Nor does she wear make up - and she is a pretty trendy little dresser!

822 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:52:43pm

re: #815 gclaghorn

On CNN right now: the UN Sec'y General is "concerned" about Israel's offensive. Who the hell asked him?

Most of the world.
Spit

823 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:52:46pm

re: #819 itellu3times

When the entire territory is about five miles wide, exit strategy is how tricky?


LOL!

824 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:52:51pm

re: #759 dmandman

A few years ago, my boys attended a SF Convention where actually one of the "guests of honor" sole claim to fame was an episode where he wore the infamous 'red shirt' and was BEM food before the first commercial break.

That reminds me of Galaxy Quest. Great movie.

I won a trip from a DS9 contest. We didn't get on the set; they were filming, but we had lunch with Armin Shimmerman (Quark) and Rene Aberjonois (sp? Odo). And we got to see Terry Farrell (Jadziya Dax). She looks even skinnier in person.
Anyway, they were filming the episode in which the Jem Hadar gave some rebel planet a disease where they had spots; when the spots turned red, they died. One extra, waiting outside, said "I died two days ago, but they had me back in case they needed me again.)

825 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:52:52pm

re: #819 itellu3times

Yes, I was thinking, "just back it up a bit."

826 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:53:48pm

re: #811 ArmyWife
Good nite ArmyWife.

827 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:54:15pm

Star Trek landing party update:

Female crew member survives.

828 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:54:23pm

re: #810 godfrey

The war reduced France's population by 2/3rds, so it would be called "ecologically sustainable population control to combat global warming."

Carbon credit body count.

829 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:54:50pm

re: #827 Silhouette

Star Trek landing party update:

Female crew member survives.

Kirk must be boinking her!

830 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:55:06pm

re: #811 ArmyWife

A construction project is sometimes referred to as a "campaign", you can see why.

But the result is usually worth it.

Good night,

Ojoe, Architect.

831 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:55:13pm

re: #824 Kosh's Shadow

That reminds me of Galaxy Quest. Great movie.

I won a trip from a DS9 contest. We didn't get on the set; they were filming, but we had lunch with Armin Shimmerman (Quark) and Rene Aberjonois (sp? Odo). And we got to see Terry Farrell (Jadziya Dax). She looks even skinnier in person.
Anyway, they were filming the episode in which the Jem Hadar gave some rebel planet a disease where they had spots; when the spots turned red, they died. One extra, waiting outside, said "I died two days ago, but they had me back in case they needed me again.)


Galaxy Quest is indeed great and great fun. Too bad they left no real opening for a sequel.

832 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:55:29pm

re: #809 Iron Fist

It could be worse. I've seen teenage girls out and about in outfits that'd make a stripper blush.

Not around here. It's pretty conservative.

BTW, are you anywhere near Kingston?

833 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:55:51pm

Damn, finally getting to sit down and work on the model I got for Christmas and the glue is all messed up.

834 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:55:54pm

re: #829 sattv4u2

Kirk must be boinking her!

I think Scotty is, or wants to.

835 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:56:01pm

OK, Scotty stabbed one in "Wolf in the Fold", I was actually going to ask about that, but deleted the question.

836 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:56:58pm

re: #827 Silhouette

Star Trek landing party update:

Female crew member survives.

I'm in shock. The fabric of the universe is torn.

837 Ojoe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:57:15pm

re: #827 Silhouette

I owe you one Quatloo.


Good night all.

838 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:57:17pm

re: #833 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Put it in a warm to hottish bath of water for a few minutes and see if it doesn't softened it up enough to use.

839 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:57:35pm
840 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:57:43pm

re: #837 Ojoe

Nite Ojoe. Sleep well.

841 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:57:50pm

re: #816 Promethea

Interesting what you said about Canadians' nationalism being intertwined with their anti-Americanism. I think a lot of Jews' religion is mixed up with their support of FDR in the depression and WW2, which carried over into their current nutty support of the Democrat party.

Well, your theory would not apply to Jews who are younger than 80. Those of us who were raised as "red diaper babies" have either become so assimilated that they don't give a shit about being Jewish, or (like myself) backlashed into conservative Republicans.

Also: religious Jews, who also tend to be politically conservative, have a much higher birthrate than our leftist, secular brethren.

842 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:57:58pm

re: #827 Silhouette

Star Trek landing party update:

Female crew member survives.

I rest my case.

843 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:58:10pm

re: #833 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Damn, finally getting to sit down and work on the model I got for Christmas and the glue is all messed up.

Maybe you sniffed too much.

844 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:58:17pm
845 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:58:35pm

re: #834 Silhouette

I think Scotty is, or wants to.

only if she has a cheap source of dylithiam chrystals

846 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:58:39pm

re: #834 Silhouette

I think Scotty is, or wants to.

Then it must be "The Lights of Zetar", in which we learn of Memory Alpha, whose name was take by the Star Trek Wiki.
And I'm not going there to verify.
Beam me up Scotty, there's not enough intelligent life here.

847 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:59:33pm

re: #839 Iron Fist

Didn't FDR refuse to let a ship load of Jewish refugees dock in the United States? It's kind of like the black vote going to the Democrats. The Republicans freed the slaves, ended seggrigation and passed the Civil Rights bills, while the Donks were the party of the Ku Klux Klan and Orville Faubus and Bull Conner. So naturally 90+% of blacks vote for the Democrats.

I don't get it, don't think I ever will get it. I've pretty much stopped trying.

I think they were mostly children.

848 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:59:45pm

re: #839 Iron Fist

Didn't FDR refuse to let a ship load of Jewish refugees dock in the United States? It's kind of like the black vote going to the Democrats. The Republicans freed the slaves, ended seggrigation and passed the Civil Rights bills, while the Donks were the party of the Ku Klux Klan and Orville Faubus and Bull Conner. So naturally 90+% of blacks vote for the Democrats.

I don't get it, don't think I ever will get it. I've pretty much stopped trying.

The guy who made the decision to turn them away was a State dept under secretary by the name of Beckenridge Long. (may his name be blotted out). He was also the recipient of the Wansee Protocol documents and buried them as forgeries.

849 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 7:59:49pm

re: #835 itellu3times

OK, Scotty stabbed one in "Wolf in the Fold", I was actually going to ask about that, but deleted the question.

That episode was written by Robert Block, who would say he as the heart of a little boy.

In a jar, on his desk.

850 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:00:11pm

re: #849 Kosh's Shadow

PIMF Robert Bloch

851 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:00:27pm

Deputy UN Ambassador for the US, I didnt catch his name, is doing a GREAT job!

852 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:00:35pm

re: #838 notutopia

Put it in a warm to hottish bath of water for a few minutes and see if it doesn't softened it up enough to use.

Nah, I can see it in the bottle. Its got a funnel tip and the glue has hardened in the tip. Get to try digging it out. If I break too much of the tip, it becomes worthless since the glue goes everywhere then. Its a type of modeling superglue, bonds in seconds deal, so I'll be getting to scrape it off my fingers for the rest of the night eiter way.

853 BakiShamil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:00:52pm

My apologies mate…….I misunderstood your statement


re: #740 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

854 CommonCents  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:01:01pm

re: #18 WhiteRasta

These folks are "Americans". Right?

You Yanks won't let me into your country, but you let these guys in.

My guess is student visas run amok.

855 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:01:03pm

re: #851 Wishing

Deputy UN Ambassador for the US, I didnt catch his name, is doing a GREAT job!

Good thing Bush is still in office. I think Israel chose now to attack before the 0 replaced him.

856 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:01:13pm

re: #843 MandyManners

Maybe you sniffed too much.

No. Thats what the canned air is for.

/

857 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:01:19pm

re: #844 lifeofthemind

And she dated Peter Jennings

Wonder if he took her to his ranch.

858 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:01:47pm
859 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:02:31pm

re: #855 Kosh's Shadow

Good thing Bush is still in office. I think Israel chose now to attack before the 0 replaced him.

Agree...and once the O is in office, this Deputy ambassador will be pounding pavemment, I bet!

860 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:02:47pm

re: #858 Iron Fist

I'm in Knoxville. I don't think I've ever been to Kingston, but I know a guy who lives out there. I don't think its a very far drive.

I read something today about the environmental disaster going on there.

861 avanti  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:05:18pm

re: #809 Iron Fist

It could be worse. I've seen teenage girls out and about in outfits that'd make a stripper blush.

I'm about as socially liberal is you can get, but I've been left behind on some issues. Girls are getting there legs waxed to keep up with her friends as preteens and the fashion industry is pushing teen clothing for 8-12 year olds.

862 DEZes  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:05:52pm

Fellow lizards, rest well, and say a prayer for the Israeli forces.
Nite all.

863 Promethea  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:06:16pm

re: #516 Iron Fist

I'm sure they wouldn't have. Most of the UN didn't really see Saddam as a problem, and he was a good source of bribe money. If Bush had backed down, Iraq would be fielding terrorists armed with poison gas by now. Or maybe biologicals. Iraq had a bioweapons program that was looking into, among other lovely things, Congo-Crimean hemorrhagic fever. Coincidentally, there was an outbreak of that shit in Afghanistan shortly after we started bombing them.

It is an interesting coincidence.

Interesting. I hadn't read about the Congo-Crimean hemorrhagic fever before.

Re my earlier posts, I have not yet been able to convince a single liberal that Saddam was working on WMD. They only know what they learn from the NYTimes and NPR. To them, there is NO OTHER reality.

864 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:06:37pm
865 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:07:18pm

Whoopee..Arab ministers to UN in the AM..Can hardly wait to find out what their positions will be on the Gaza situation!
..edge of seat

866 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:07:38pm

Tobin just told Geraldo that Hamas hides with civilians.

867 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:07:53pm
868 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:08:25pm

re: #864 MandyManners

Sun is gonna' rise soon.

IDF has an advantage at night. With NGVs and all the high tech wizardy.

869 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:08:49pm

So is RAMMATEN basically CNN Mideast or something?

870 Teacake!  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:10:13pm

ITs not so much crazy as ugly and they dug themselves into a rut of ugly.

871 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:11:14pm

re: #258 bosforus

Ironic that a city that seems to pride itself on tolerance and diversity tends to host some of the most intolerant in the world.

That's the problem, ya see. We're not intolerant enough to drive the jerks out.

872 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:11:16pm
873 DesertSage  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:11:37pm

I can't wait to see what Obama will do.

Is he gonna stand with Israel or is he going to get all wishy-washy and morally relativistic like he usually does?

874 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:11:48pm

Yo "Palestinian" Protesters -

LOSERS! That is all.

-S-

875 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:13:22pm

re: #873 DesertSage

I can't wait to see what Obama will do.

Is he gonna stand with Israel or is he going to get all wishy-washy and morally relativistic like he usually does?

Count-down.

876 Teacake!  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:13:47pm
Good thing Bush is still in office. I think Israel chose now to attack before the 0 replaced him.

I was thinking that a while back, they have limited time to do what must be done. I wonder with O in Office and his islamic support, if Israel will even recognize the US as anything worthy to work with.

877 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:14:01pm

CHARGERS TIED!

878 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:14:10pm

Actor Sam Shepard arrested in Illinois

Police in Illinois say actor and playwright Sam Shepard has been arrested on preliminary charges of speeding and drunken driving.

This sleazebag used to live around here. Back in 1990 or 1991 he was drunk in a bar and was groping all the women in the bar including a friend of mine. We saw him a week later in another bar. He apologized to my friend for the other night then invited her to spend a week in NYC with him while he did a Broadway play.

879 DesertSage  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:14:13pm

re: #875 MandyManners

Count-down.

That's great...I love it. :')

880 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:14:20pm

re: #867 Iron Fist

Most of that happened before I was born. I don't think that I've overly dwelt on African-American issues in my studies, but those are just the high points that I've noticed. The Democrat Solid South was also the Jim Crow segregationist South. When one ended, so did the other.

I'm not saying that every democrat is a closet Klansman. After all, the Democrats boast Robert Byrd as their "Conscience of the Senate". He's never been closeted about his involvement with the KKK.

They STILL have Jews and African-Americans snowed.

881 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:14:32pm

re: #873 DesertSage

I can't wait to see what Obama will do.

Is he gonna stand with Israel or is he going to get all wishy-washy and morally relativistic like he usually does?

Choice B.

882 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:15:00pm

re: #872 Iron Fist

I saw something in the headlines the other day. Something to do with ash. It hasn't effected me in any way, so I've kind of ignored it. If it were the reactor at Y-12 I'd have noticed it by now :-)

A glow to the north?

883 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:15:01pm

re: #872 Iron Fist

I saw something in the headlines the other day. Something to do with ash. It hasn't effected me in any way, so I've kind of ignored it. If it were the reactor at Y-12 I'd have noticed it by now :-)

A 50 ft pile of ash fell over onto several houses. Right now, arsenic tests at the pile have been "above standards", which most background samples in America are. But all samples in local wells and such are acceptable.

But there is a lot of nasty ash to dig up and move.

884 notutopia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:15:26pm

The sun is going to rise in Israel soon and I have got to close my eyes and get some rest. May the IDF soldiers stay fierce, strong, and courageous.
Good Nite Lizards.

885 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:15:30pm

re: #877 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

CHARGERS TIED!

Turnovers and asleep at the wheel-they gave the game to Indy.

886 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:15:39pm
887 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:15:45pm

re: #868 jcm

IDF has an advantage at night. With NGVs and all the high tech wizardy.

I wonder if Hamas would rig a kid with a bomb and send him/her to the troops.

888 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:16:26pm

re: #878 njdhockeyfan

Actor Sam Shepard arrested in Illinois

This sleazebag used to live around here. Back in 1990 or 1991 he was drunk in a bar and was groping all the women in the bar including a friend of mine. We saw him a week later in another bar. He apologized to my friend for the other night then invited her to spend a week in NYC with him while he did a Broadway play.

He's an actor, an artist, so he's entitled, doncha know.
btw - don't you think he'd have made enough money by now to get those teeth fixed?

889 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:16:28pm

re: #879 DesertSage

I got it here.

890 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:16:28pm

re: #885 solomonpanting

Turnovers and asleep at the wheel-they gave the game to Indy.

They've been a disapointment all season, but it looks like they're taking the game into OT

891 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:16:40pm

Quagmire? No exit strategy? After 10 hours?
Simpletons! (because Idiots! is overused.)

892 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:17:20pm

re: #886 Iron Fist

I don't have kids, so its not been that big a deal to me, but some things just jump out at you. A ten year old little girl has no business wearing a pair of short-shorts with "Juicy" written across the ass. I really don't know what some of these parents are thinking. If they are thinking at all.

Kids have been known to change into clothes their parents don't know they own.

893 right_wing2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:18:33pm

re: #886 Iron Fist

They're not thinking. And they'll expect the taxpayer to pay for either the abortion or to keep their little darling well supplied with everything she needs to raise her 5 illegitimate kids.

894 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:18:56pm

re: #891 David IV of Georgia

Quagmire? No exit strategy? After 10 hours?
Simpletons! (because Idiots! is overused.)

Cant we just go with the good ole fashioned "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women" as a exit strategy?

895 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:20:06pm

re: #886 Iron Fist

I was the mom standing in the 'tween girls section with little flames coming out her ears, talking to herself.

"This miniskirt comes in a child's size 6. It has chains on it. Zippers up the side. What...are...they...thinking...."

896 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:20:09pm
897 freedombilly  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:20:19pm

Arafat would be so proud.

898 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:20:37pm

re: #894 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Cant we just go with the good ole fashioned "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women" as a exit strategy?

That almost sounds like you're advocating winning - what a novel idea.

899 Rancher  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:20:52pm

I'm going to try and articulate my feelings on the current Gaza situation without being called a Nazi and being banned. When Israel considered pulling out of Gaza there was much debate here. My position was:

My feelings were to pull out, give the Palestinians their state and then hold them accountable for the actions of their citizens. When attacks on Israel continue, and they will, bomb the hell out of them and repeat as necessary. I also believed that bringing Israelis inside the wall was just common sense. After reading articles like Professor Arieh Eldad's I changed my mind. Israel is being pressured to do this by the US and the EU. It is a capitulation of the principle that terrorism not be rewarded. Hamas will gain control of Gaza and it will become a major terrorist base with access to the sea.


Well predictably it did become a major terrorist platform with thousands of rocket bombs launched toward Israeli civilians, twice sometimes three times a day. The fact that few of these rockets actually kill anybody seems to be the basis for leftists acceptance that these attacks are no big deal. Let me shoot pot shots at your familly you dumb fucks and we'll see how dedicated you are to this position.

900 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:20:57pm

re: #886 Iron Fist

I don't have kids, so its not been that big a deal to me, but some things just jump out at you. A ten year old little girl has no business wearing a pair of short-shorts with "Juicy" written across the ass. I really don't know what some of these parents are thinking. If they are thinking at all.

My daughter is 17 and I still will not allow her to wear short-shorts with "juicy" written across the ass. Or anything with anything written across the ass. It's trashy and distasteful . . . and I hope and pray when she turns 18, she'll be past wanting anything written across her ass. Yech.

901 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:21:26pm

re: #898 jamgarr

That almost sounds like you're advocating winning - what a novel idea.

Just so crazy is just might work. Its the last thing they'll expect.

902 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:21:30pm

re: #894 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Cant we just go with the good ole fashioned "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the women" as a exit strategy?

I always liked the tactics of the Roman Empire in such situations....

903 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:21:42pm

The one good thing about the MSM covering this Gaza story is that people cant get a wrong headed idea about what a *refugee camp* is.

904 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:21:46pm
905 DesertSage  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:22:02pm

re: #881 njdhockeyfan

Choice B.

That's what I was afraid of :(

906 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:22:27pm

re: #812 jaunte

Another familiar buzzword from the same sentence:

"The ground offensive is likely to increase casualties on both sides, with Israel running the risk of finding itself in a quagmire with no easy exit strategy...."

Actually I've been more worried about Hamas' exit strategy.
I'm thinking mass grave would do nicely (if they can find the parts) ...but I'd be satisfied with Tunisia.

907 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:22:56pm

re: #896 Iron Fist

I used to work down the street from the main gate at Y-12. We've moved, so I'm not close enough to hear them testing the sirens every month.

Have you ever taken an out-of-towner out to lunch on that day, and then faux-panic when the sirens go off?

908 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:23:30pm

re: #878 njdhockeyfan

Actor Sam Shepard arrested in Illinois


This sleazebag used to live around here. Back in 1990 or 1991 he was drunk in a bar and was groping all the women in the bar including a friend of mine. We saw him a week later in another bar. He apologized to my friend for the other night then invited her to spend a week in NYC with him while he did a Broadway play.


Next he'll be asking to serve out the zero's senate seat. Taking cues from the frankenidiot.

909 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:23:32pm

re: #888 reine.de.tout

He's an actor, an artist, so he's entitled, doncha know.
btw - don't you think he'd have made enough money by now to get those teeth fixed?

All this womanizing happened almost nightly with this dickhead....while he was married to Jessica Lange.

910 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:23:48pm

re: #904 Iron Fist

Thanks. I hadn't seen that much on it. I don't pay a lot of attention to the local news.

My aunt called from 3 hours away, worried that I was drinking "poison."

Thanks, news media.

911 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:24:16pm

LOL guy calling Israel *occupier*: um Mr, there is not ONE Jew in Gaza.

912 avanti  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:24:34pm

re: #886 Iron Fist

I don't have kids, so its not been that big a deal to me, but some things just jump out at you. A ten year old little girl has no business wearing a pair of short-shorts with "Juicy" written across the ass. I really don't know what some of these parents are thinking. If they are thinking at all.

I'm glad I have a son and don't have to deal with the issue, but he tells me some girls change into their slutty outfits away from home. Even my son was ticked off that I would not let him "hang" at the mall with his friends when he was a 12-14 years old.

913 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:24:51pm

re: #887 MandyManners

I wonder if Hamas would rig a kid with a bomb and send him/her to the troops.

They've already done it. Jenin, and Gaza border.

914 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:25:02pm
915 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:25:32pm

re: #909 njdhockeyfan

All this womanizing happened almost nightly with this dickhead....while he was married to Jessica Lange.

I was thinking he was married to Jessica Lange, and that at least some of the time this must have happened while he was married to her.

That was not new behavior for this guy (when it happened to your friend), and I can guarantee it has continued. He never grew up

916 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:26:30pm

re: #902 David IV of Georgia

I always liked the tactics of the Roman Empire in such situations....

The whole "We're being raided by tribes in that region. Kill them all and see if the raids stop" approach certainly has its merits.

I remember a story about a Roman ambassador who was meeting with the King of Crete discussing pirates. Rumors were that the pirates were paying bribes to the Cretins for safe passage thru their waters. The Romans came to ask the Cretins to help them take out the pirates. The King hemmed and hawed, saying he would need to talk to his advisors and look into it. The Roman Ambassador said take all the time they needed, but if they left the room without agreeing, to consider themselves at war with Rome.

Pirate problem went buh-bye.

917 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:26:53pm

re: #914 Iron Fist

Yeah, I wasn't kidding about the "make a stripper blush" thing. When I was a kid, hookers didn't dress that trashy.

you musn't have had good hookers !

WHA !?!?!?!?!?!

918 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:27:09pm

Sage?

919 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:27:27pm

Thank God for the USofA for blocking the UN/Libyan resolution. US, please please please, stay out of Israel's way!

920 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:27:31pm

re: #873 DesertSage

I can't wait to see what Obama will do.

Is he gonna stand with Israel or is he going to get all wishy-washy and morally relativistic like he usually does?

Choice C: pressure Israel to make difficult concessions "for peace."
Ignore the fact that Hamas does not, will not recognize Israel.

I hope I'm wrong.
But that's why I voted for McCain.

921 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:27:35pm

Hey y'all - a tad late tonight but I've got a note from Mom! LOL!
So what are we talking about? Any further news on IDF in Gaza?

922 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:27:48pm

re: #915 reine.de.tout

I was thinking he was married to Jessica Lange, and that at least some of the time this must have happened while he was married to her.

That was not new behavior for this guy (when it happened to your friend), and I can guarantee it has continued. He never grew up

Funny thing is my friend's father is a big named politician in Virginia.

923 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:28:05pm
924 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:28:19pm

re: #911 Wishing

LOL guy calling Israel *occupier*: um Mr, there is not ONE Jew in Gaza.

It's not just Gaza. Never was just Gaza.

Geraldo replayed earlier tonight an interview he had with some Pali somebody in 2002, and the guy was saying that there should be no Israel, all the Jews were from "somewhere else", and they did not belong there, the land did not "belong" to anything like a state of Israel.

925 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:29:17pm

re: #911 Wishing

LOL guy calling Israel *occupier*: um Mr, there is not ONE Jew in Gaza.

Well, there is now. A bunch of them. All in uniform.
Heh.

GO IDF!

926 melinwy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:29:20pm

re: #913 transient

They've already done it. Jenin, and Gaza border.

not to but in, but did this happen recently? link?
thanks
go colts

927 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:29:26pm

re: #914 Iron Fist

Yeah, I wasn't kidding about the "make a stripper blush" thing. When I was a kid, hookers didn't dress that trashy.

So, um, how is it you knew how hookers dressed when you were a kid?

928 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:29:39pm

re: #913 transient

They've already done it. Jenin, and Gaza border.

Oh, no.

929 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:29:52pm
930 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:29:53pm

re: #912 avanti

I'm glad I have a son and don't have to deal with the issue, but he tells me some girls change into their slutty outfits away from home. Even my son was ticked off that I would not let him "hang" at the mall with his friends when he was a 12-14 years old.

From FailBlog.

"I bought my 7-yr-old these boots..."

931 DesertSage  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:30:02pm

Noam?

932 Teacake!  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:30:15pm

Cease fire is being called for by arab nations. lolol yeah, when Israel finally has enough and strikes back they cry to put a stop to it. For such blood thirsty warriors its just so undignified to act like cry babies.

933 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:30:36pm

re: #924 reine.de.tout

It's not just Gaza. Never was just Gaza.

Geraldo replayed earlier tonight an interview he had with some Pali somebody in 2002, and the guy was saying that there should be no Israel, all the Jews were from "somewhere else", and they did not belong there, the land did not "belong" to anything like a state of Israel.

Yeh yeh y7eh, we have heard it all before and the guy interviewed was probably from Egypt or Syria. The BS never ends.

934 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:30:37pm

re: #921 realwest

Any further news on IDF in Gaza?

If any more of the Hamas leadership gets killed,
CNN will start wailing about a vowel shortage in Gaza.

935 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:31:04pm

re: #918 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! How are you doing tonight buddy?

936 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:32:01pm

re: #934 jaunte

If any more of the Hamas leadership gets killed,
CNN will start wailing about a vowel shortage in Gaza.

lololol

937 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:32:01pm

re: #931 DesertSage
Hey Sage! How are you doing tonight?

938 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:32:09pm

re: #931 DesertSage

Noam?

*tackle*

How ya been, buddy?

939 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:32:51pm

re: #918 Noam Sayin'

Sage?

re: #931 DesertSage

Noam?

Well, looky!
Here ya'll are in one box together.
Go ahead and have your conversation now.

940 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:33:09pm

re: #935 realwest

Doin' alright, pal. Got a steenkeen sinus headache that would kill a mere mortal, but other than that...

941 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:33:16pm

Colts penalizing themselves into a vacation

942 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:33:20pm

Gosh, the Palis just love to scream "Genocide!" sheesh

943 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:34:20pm

re: #934 jaunte
Hey juante! ROFL! But I meant, how deep into Gaza has the IDF penetrated? They running into those @#%*$ anti-tank mines that Iran supposedly supplied Hamas with, after seeing how well they worked for Hezbollah in'06?

944 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:34:36pm

Chargers win.

945 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:34:39pm

Palestinian ambassador babbling about how the UN has to stop the Israeli onslaught, return to negotiations, establish a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital.

This is why there is no peace. They are not willing to compromise on anything. They have spent 100 years killing Jews, starting wars, committing terrorism, and periodically getting their a$$es handed to them, but they think they still have a right to everything they want without giving anything in return.

946 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:34:49pm
947 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:34:56pm

re: #941 jamgarr

Colts penalizing themselves into a vacation

And there ya go.

948 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:35:04pm

sorry, but to this gal on CNN, I say...Stupid woman, either answer the questions asked or SHUT UP.

949 myspamhere  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:35:08pm

Tomorrow, the hamas supports plan on protesting at the Holocaust memorial in Miami Beach tomorrow. I plan on being there with several hundred other Jews, Christians and anyone else who knows that the pals in Gaza have no one to blame but themselves.

950 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:35:21pm

re: #929 Iron Fist

Maybe I just frequent the classier whorehouses :-)

quantity, not quality is my motto!

////

951 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:35:25pm

TD CHARGERS!

952 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:35:37pm

re: #940 Noam Sayin'
Ah, sinus headaches are terrible - ya sure you didn't get it from*tackling* Sage without wearing a helmet?!

953 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:35:46pm

re: #949 myspamhere

Tomorrow, the hamas supports plan on protesting at the Holocaust memorial in Miami Beach tomorrow. I plan on being there with several hundred other Jews, Christians and anyone else who knows that the pals in Gaza have no one to blame but themselves.

Good on you! May you all be safe and courageous!

954 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:36:47pm

re: #949 myspamhere

Tomorrow, the hamas supports plan on protesting at the Holocaust memorial in Miami Beach tomorrow. I plan on being there with several hundred other Jews, Christians and anyone else who knows that the pals in Gaza have no one to blame but themselves.

How much you wanna' bet they try to draw a parallel between the Holocaust and what's going on in Gaza now?

955 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:36:58pm

re: #941 jamgarr

Colts penalizing themselves into a vacation

Kinda like winning a soccer game on a penalty kick.

956 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:37:06pm

re: #944 njdhockeyfan
The Chargers won? Holy shit! An 8-8 team beats the 12-4 Colts?
Unfrickin' believable.

957 phoenixgirl  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:37:23pm

finish the job Israel. the world will thank you for it later

958 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:37:25pm

re: #943 realwest

I haven't seen any reports yet of effective anti-tank/ied actions. I hope the IDF surveillance has them mapped this time.

959 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:37:27pm

re: #952 realwest

speakin of football, our 'bet" still on?
Michael Vick gets sent from Levenworth to a half way house on January 20th (geee ,,, thats odd,,, what else happens that day !?!?!?) 6 months there (Jume 20th) and he is a FREE MAN. just in time for someones training camp !

960 Haiku  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:37:28pm

CNN has the most biased coverage on Israel right now. I don't watch CNN but I was changing the channels and the anchor, Don Lemon, is absolutely biased against Israel. He has the most pro-Hamas guests on and he's groveling and nodding his head in agreement with what they're saying. It's like I'm watching Al-Jizeera. I've called CNN and left a message and e-mailed them. It won't help but at least they'll know that some of us are pissed off at their coverage.

The pro-"Palestinian" demonstrators are scary indeed. It's not surprising since they support terrorism and are filled with hate. I find it ironic that the Muslim woman with an accent screamed to pro-Isarel demonstrators about "stealing land." Excuse me? What is she doing in this country then? The Arabs (wrongly) accuse the Jews of stealing land but then immigrate and occupy other's people's land all over the world. As someone with Native American heritage I find it amusing.

961 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:37:40pm

re: #928 MandyManners

Oh, no.

Not successfully, that I know of, I should add.
(Jenin was in 2003, when the IDF went in to clean out a major center of terrorism. The Palestinians claimed it was a "massacre" to the international media--but only 50 or so Palestinians were killed, almost all combatants. And by the way--no quagmire. Jenin got a lot quieter after that.)

962 DesertSage  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:37:50pm

re: #952 realwest

Ah, sinus headaches are terrible - ya sure you didn't get it from*tackling* Sage without wearing a helmet?!

PBJ tried to tackle me the other night....said she was doing it for Noam or something.

It was kinda funny....she only weighs about 90 lbs.

963 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:38:31pm

The UN tells lots of people to cease fire. They never do. Why should Israel be the only one to listen to them?

964 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:39:08pm

re: #952 realwest

Ah, sinus headaches are terrible - ya sure you didn't get it from*tackling* Sage without wearing a helmet?!

I'm pretty sure I got it from one of the two perdy girls I made out with on New Year's Eve.

Totally worth it...

965 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:39:30pm

re: #963 Shay4l

The UN tells lots of people to cease fire. They never do. Why should Israel be the only one to listen to them?

Becuase if they don't. the UN will put them on double secret probation!

966 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:39:34pm

re: #958 jaunte
Well that's good to hear, but I do wonder how far into Gaza the IDF incursion has advanced.

967 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:39:42pm

re: #960 Haiku

CNN has the most biased coverage on Israel right now. I don't watch CNN but I was changing the channels and the anchor, Don Lemon, is absolutely biased against Israel. He has the most pro-Hamas guests on and he's groveling and nodding his head in agreement with what they're saying. It's like I'm watching Al-Jizeera. I've called CNN and left a message and e-mailed them. It won't help but at least they'll know that some of us are pissed off at their coverage.

The pro-"Palestinian" demonstrators are scary indeed. It's not surprising since they support terrorism and are filled with hate. I find it ironic that the Muslim woman with an accent screamed to pro-Isarel demonstrators about "stealing land." Excuse me? What is she doing in this country then? The Arabs (wrongly) accuse the Jews of stealing land but then immigrate and occupy other's people's land all over the world. As someone with Native American heritage I find it amusing.

You forgot to mention his hushed tone when sympathizing with the suffering innocents

968 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:39:42pm

re: #964 Noam Sayin'

I'm pretty sure I got it from one of the two perdy girls I made out with on New Year's Eve.

Totally worth it...

braggart

969 Sgt.Slappy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:39:51pm

Oh oh. I feel the winds coming on again.

Or this too.

970 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:40:19pm

re: #966 realwest

I don't think the IDF is saying right now.

971 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:40:27pm

re: #964 Noam Sayin'

I'm pretty sure I got it from one of the two perdy girls I made out with on New Year's Eve.

Totally worth it...

think how shitty THEY feel !

j/k

972 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:40:29pm

I just saw a live shot of the Gaza skyline on TV with smoke rising above the city while the IDF continues to clean out the hornets nests.

973 Digital Display  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:40:29pm

re: #935 realwest

HEY NOAM! How are you doing tonight buddy?

Realwest..We lost tonight! Congrads to the bolts.
so Rw..Do you put 12 or 13 knots in the noose?
LOL

974 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:40:50pm

To heck with 10 yr olds, these "Juicy Couture" shoes come in toddler sizes.

The shoes say "Hello Juicy" on the side.

975 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:40:51pm

re: #959 sattv4u2
Yes, our bet is still on - I don't care when Vick is released (although I think he should do 5 year min. hard time) no NFL team will touch him. No matter how hard up they are for a QB.

976 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:41:21pm

re: #946 Iron Fist

Oh, I often went down the main road where hookers plied their trade when I was 16-17. It's kind of hard not to notice the girls in the short skirts and thigh-high boots standing around just kind of hanging out. The cops would go through about twice a year and arrest everybody, but they were back at work after a few days of rest.

I was just kidding with you.
But yes, those ladies are hard to miss.

977 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:41:23pm

re: #964 Noam Sayin'

I'm pretty sure I got it from one of the two perdy girls I made out with on New Year's Eve.

Totally worth it...

So...you didn't kiss well enough for the first one?

;) You left the door open on that one

978 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:41:42pm
979 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:41:44pm

re: #966 realwest

Well that's good to hear, but I do wonder how far into Gaza the IDF incursion has advanced.

Reminds me of an old joke.

Updated: How far can the IDF go into Gaza?

Halfway, because after that, they're going out.

980 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:42:15pm

re: #964 Noam Sayin'

I'm pretty sure I got it from one of the two perdy girls I made out with on New Year's Eve.

Totally worth it...

At the same time?

981 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:42:15pm

re: #960 Haiku
"CNN has the most biased coverage on Israel right now"
What do you mean "right now" - they and the Beeb, and AFP have been practically cheerleading for the "Palestinians" forever.

982 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:42:32pm

re: #968 Shay4l

braggart

Wouldn't be bragging unless I mentioned they were 20 years younger than me.

Did I mention that, yet?

;)

983 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:42:37pm

"Bad craziness is San Francisco"

Is there any good craziness?

I mean other than sex with crazy chicks.

984 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:42:55pm

re: #975 realwest

Yes, our bet is still on - I don't care when Vick is released (although I think he should do 5 year min. hard time) no NFL team will touch him. No matter how hard up they are for a QB.

CFL- He'll end up playing in Canada.

985 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:43:24pm

re: #962 DesertSage
Huh, and she still knocked you down! You musta been doing some heaving imbibing of your favorite beveridge!
:)

986 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:43:28pm

UN fails to agree on Gaza

UNITED NATIONS - THE UN Security Council ended its meeting late on Saturday without reaching an agreement on a statement on the situation in the Gaza Strip, the French ambassador said.

The ambassador, Mr Jean-Maurice Ripert who presides in the council this month, said members of the body could not agree on a statement that would call for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.

Heh. The UN is good at getting nothing accomplished.

987 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:43:35pm

re: #982 Noam Sayin'

Wouldn't be bragging unless I mentioned they were 20 years younger than me.

Did I mention that, yet?

;)

Shameless braggart

988 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:43:43pm

re: #984 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

CFL- He'll end up playing in Canada.

He'll be in an NFL camp this summer,,, GAURANTEED

989 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:44:14pm

re: #980 MandyManners

A little...

990 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:44:32pm

I look for all the Far Lefty/Indymedia/Anarchists/Workers Party Radicals to all take up the cause for the Palis 24-7 now. Heck, even Code Pinko will be marching for them soon.

991 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:44:35pm

re: #966 realwest

Here's a little location info:

Most of the ground soldiers are in northern Gaza, but fighting also was reported in Gaza City.


[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

992 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:44:46pm

I never listen to MSM news, but allowed myself to listen to some of the Gaza coverage on CNN...So far we have had the Libyan ambassador to the UN, the US deputy ambassador to the UN, the palestinian ambassador(?) to the UN, one IDF spokeswoman, some [bigoted word] in NC and her daddy in Gaza. Totally slanted against Israel. How does ANY lizard listen to this crap and not go insane?

993 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:44:52pm

re: #964 Noam Sayin'
TWO? Uh, Noam, did ya ever meet either of 'em before and do you know their names and phone numbers (I keep hearing this refrain of "hair of the dog" over and over!)?!

994 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:45:14pm

Oh Lord, I humbly beg; please let not the overnight thread be ID or evo.

995 transient  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:45:21pm

re: #960 Haiku

A few minutes ago the CNN anchor, talking with that Palestinian immigrant in a hijab, says, but you can't just stop the fighting now, you have to address the whole situation (and I'm expecting him to say, you have to get Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel). But no, he says, you have to end the occupation.

WHAT OCCUPATION?
MEMO TO CNN: Occupation of Gaza ended 2005. Report accurately.

Embargo and blockade are not occupation. They are response to Hamas rejectionism and state of war.

996 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:45:23pm
997 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:45:32pm

re: #966 realwest

Well that's good to hear, but I do wonder how far into Gaza the IDF incursion has advanced.

They are saying that ground troops have only entered in northern Gaza. Not a HUGE incursion at all.

998 UberInfidel67  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:45:37pm

Sorry if this was posted elsewhere, just gave me a WTF moment:

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

They are eating their own!

999 jamgarr  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:45:55pm

re: #986 njdhockeyfan

The UN is good at getting nothing accomplished

The UN is accomplished at getting nothing good.

The UN is nothing at getting good accomplished.

/It works in so many ways!

1000 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:46:10pm

re: #974 Silhouette

To heck with 10 yr olds, these "Juicy Couture" shoes come in toddler sizes.

The shoes say "Hello Juicy" on the side.

And I've been upset by the story I'm writing? At least that's just lurid fiction!

1001 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:46:16pm

Is there another Poonami in the future for Gaza?

1002 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:46:49pm

re: #965 sattv4u2
Israel's been on double secret probation since 1948.
Seriously, I don't give a rat's ass what the effin' UN says, Israel should do what's best for Israel in Israel's sole judgment here.
There is ABSOLUTELY no justification for Hamas to keep chucking rockets and mortars into Israel. Period.
GO IDF!

1003 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:47:51pm
1004 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:47:56pm

re: #996 Iron Fist

Damn! And they aren't cheap, either. What in the hell would possess someone that they would buy these for a little kid? That's just wrong on so many levels.

If it makes you feel any better, I regularly talk to a guy who sells children shoes nationwide, and he says Knoxville is his most conservative customer base. His words: "You guys still want little girls to be little girls." I've seen the "Juicy" shorts too, but overall, we're not that bad.

1005 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:48:21pm

re: #970 jaunte
Well I hope not! Still and all I'd expect CNN or AFP to have announced that the IDF has "barely made it to the Egyptian border" or somesuch.

1006 Fighton03  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:48:33pm

re: #902 David IV of Georgia

LOL....we don't have the balls. But on the plus side, the leftists rhetoric would be the same, so why not?

1007 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:48:38pm

re: #994 Shay4l

Oh Lord, I humbly beg; please let not the overnight thread be ID or evo.

AMEN ,,,,, ooooppppsss ,,, can you say that about an ID thread !?!?!

1008 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:48:44pm

re: #993 realwest

I've met them before. They're in a social networking group with which I'm loosely affiliated.

And by social networking group, I mean a group dedicated to hanging out together and getting ripped on a regular basis. Most in the group are under 30. For some reason, they hold your ol' pal, Noam in high regard.

I'm pretty sure it's because I don't hang out with them that much.

If they only knew me... ;)

1009 Joan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:48:52pm

re: #29 Racer X

Many of these idiots simply want something, anything, to protest - it gives their miserable lives purpose. The rest are truly insane.

A long time ago I knew a young guy, American born, with an Americanized last name. He was ex-army, married, attending college--the husband half of a couple.

As I got to know them, slowly, this young man's ferocious hatred of Israel became apparent. Once manifest, it was never far from the surface and no conversation continued longer than 20 minutes without some denunciation.
He was apparently of Middle Eastern extraction. He read and believed the worst.

The friendship lapsed and was never resumed, but before that time his wife told me privately that his father was a violent, abusive guy. Hate, hate, hate and dehumanizing violence are a terrible heritage, and now it is deforming the lives of all now living.

1010 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:49:00pm

re: #1001 Mich-again

Is there another Poonami in the future for Gaza?

I figure every day is a Poohnami in Gaza... a never ending, self-created Poohnami.

1011 Fighton03  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:50:04pm

re: #999 jamgarr

The UN is good at getting nothing accomplished

The UN is accomplished at getting nothing good.

The UN is nothing at getting good accomplished.

/It works in so many ways!

UN = Useless Nutjobs

1012 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:50:13pm

re: #973 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops - I really feel for you my friend. As I mentioned, the Colts at 12-4 shoulda whipped the ass over the 8-8 Chargers. Didn't see the game, though - were the Chargers THAT good or did the Colts screw up?

1013 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:50:50pm

re: #1003 Iron Fist

Oh, man, you really don't want sex with a crazy chick. It isn't going to end well.

I recall sex with a crazy guy. The sex was great. The aftermath...not so much.

1014 spirochete  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:50:56pm

re: #992 Wishing

I think I must've seen the same thing you did. I watched one female anchor hand off to a male anchor, and the way they were smiling at each other, it looked like they were hooking up later. They used terms like "exit strategy" and "humanitarian crisis" like it was Brittney Spears and Madonna. It was very obvious they had little understanding of what they were covering.

And there was "Palestinian Legislator" complaining about how evil Israel was. I am no longer surprised. Can you imagine how tough it was in the 7th centruy when this kind of stuff started?

1015 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:51:13pm

re: #1008 Noam Sayin'

I've met them before. They're in a social networking group with which I'm loosely affiliated.

And by social networking group, I mean a group dedicated to hanging out together and getting ripped on a regular basis. Most in the group are under 30. For some reason, they hold your ol' pal, Noam in high regard.

I'm pretty sure it's because I don't hang out with them that much.

If they only knew me... ;)

Why do I imagine you entering the bar, and all the regulars yelling "NOAM!"?

1016 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:51:29pm

re: #976 reine.de.tout
Hi reine! Uh, some of those ladies aren't. Just saying........!

1017 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:51:47pm

re: #988 sattv4u2

He'll be in an NFL camp this summer,,, GAURANTEED

Nope, he's been suspended indefinitely (and still under suspension) by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who, if you didn't already know, is married to Fox New Channel's Jane Skinner. She is the daughter of Bush 41's Transportation Secretary and Chief of Staff Sam Skinner.

1018 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:51:49pm

lol "a kilometer into that ridgeline."
That is NOT a ridgeline, sir, that is the HORIZON.
LOLOLOLOLOL

1019 Fighton03  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:51:56pm

re: #990 Mich-again

I look for all the Far Lefty/Indymedia/Anarchists/Workers Party Radicals to all take up the cause for the Palis 24-7 now. Heck, even Code Pinko will be marching for them soon.


A target rich environment.......

1020 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:51:58pm

re: #1003 Iron Fist

Oh, man, you really don't want sex with a crazy chick. It isn't going to end well.

Very, very expensive...

1021 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:52:33pm

re: #79 Bloodnok

And when in doubt always assume that the ones with their faces covered are assholes.

IMHO, protesting while masked should be a Federal offense, as is kidnapping, with the same penalty, which could be exacted on the spot.

(I'd make exceptions for protesters wearing costume masks to play a role, or those giant puppet heads.)

1022 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:53:02pm
1023 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:54:19pm

re: #986 njdhockeyfan
Hell the UN Security Council has a hard time on whether or not to even send a strongly worded letter!
As I said, screw the UN and let Israel do whatever Israel has to do to keep it's citizens and residents safe from Rocket/Mortar attacks or any other kind of attacks by the "Palestinians".

1024 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:54:19pm

re: #1013 Dianna

I recall sex with a crazy guy. The sex was great. The aftermath...not so much.

That's what I mean! Crazy sex is usually pretty wild, it's the crazy relationship that spoils it all.

1025 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:54:54pm

re: #960 Haiku

CNN has the most biased coverage on Israel right now. I don't watch CNN but I was changing the channels and the anchor, Don Lemon, is absolutely biased against Israel. He has the most pro-Hamas guests on and he's groveling and nodding his head in agreement with what they're saying. It's like I'm watching Al-Jizeera. I've called CNN and left a message and e-mailed them. It won't help but at least they'll know that some of us are pissed off at their coverage.

The pro-"Palestinian" demonstrators are scary indeed. It's not surprising since they support terrorism and are filled with hate. I find it ironic that the Muslim woman with an accent screamed to pro-Isarel demonstrators about "stealing land." Excuse me? What is she doing in this country then? The Arabs (wrongly) accuse the Jews of stealing land but then immigrate and occupy other's people's land all over the world. As someone with Native American heritage I find it amusing.

CNN is a horror today. I stopped paying attention the second time they broadcast Hamas' propaganda threats to turn Gaza into a "graveyard" for Israel (Note to Hamas: As if. That's all I'm saying: As if). Repeated airing of terrorist propaganda like that makes you dog crap in my judgment.

1026 spirochete  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:55:28pm

Anyone know where I can get a black T shirt with three large letters "IDF" in white written across it?

1027 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:55:33pm

re: #1015 Silhouette

"How's life treating you, Noam?"

"Like a diaper, coach."

1028 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:55:41pm

re: #1022 Iron Fist

I don't know that that is comforting. You really have to wonder where the adult supervision is. A kid's too young to buy a pistol or drink a beer, but it's OK if they have an abortion or a kid?

In many states, you don't need parental permission or notification to get an abortion. Oregon is one of them, of course.

Of course, they still can't get a tattoo without permission. /They might, you know, regret it later.

1029 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:55:46pm

re: #1017 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Nope, he's been suspended indefinitely (and still under suspension) by NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who, if you didn't already know, is married to Fox New Channel's Jane Skinner. She is the daughter of Bush 41's Transportation Secretary and Chief of Staff Sam Skinner.

Thats all well and good, but after he serves his time at both Levenworth and the half way house, and after he has his meeting with Goodell where he shows contrition (which he already has) he will be re-instated. The only reason why he hasn;'t already is that he is still incarcerated.

1030 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:55:51pm

re: #990 Mich-again
Hell Mich, I thought they already had - quite a long time ago, too.

1031 Digital Display  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:55:58pm

re: #1012 realwest

Hey Hoops - I really feel for you my friend. As I mentioned, the Colts at 12-4 shoulda whipped the ass over the 8-8 Chargers. Didn't see the game, though - were the Chargers THAT good or did the Colts screw up?

Thanks my friend..It was a stinging loss..But my whole athletic career was a stinging loss so I'm kind of used to it...

1032 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:55:59pm

re: #1015 Silhouette

Why do I imagine you entering the bar, and all the regulars yelling "NOAM!"?

Why does this verse from Rosanne Cash pop into my head?

The girls in the bars thinking, "who is this guy?"
But they don't think nothing when they're telling you lies
You look so careless when they're shooting that bull
Don't you know heartaches are heroes when their pockets are full

1033 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:56:02pm

re: #1002 realwest

Israel's been on double secret probation since 1948.
Seriously, I don't give a rat's ass what the effin' UN says, Israel should do what's best for Israel in Israel's sole judgment here.
There is ABSOLUTELY no justification for Hamas to keep chucking rockets and mortars into Israel. Period.
GO IDF!

The UN was doomed when they allowed thugocracies a seat at the table.

And

GO IDF!

1034 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:56:04pm

re: #1014 spirochete

I think I must've seen the same thing you did. I watched one female anchor hand off to a male anchor, and the way they were smiling at each other, it looked like they were hooking up later. They used terms like "exit strategy" and "humanitarian crisis" like it was Brittney Spears and Madonna. It was very obvious they had little understanding of what they were covering.

And there was "Palestinian Legislator" complaining about how evil Israel was. I am no longer surprised. Can you imagine how tough it was in the 7th centruy when this kind of stuff started?

I would have been dead before the shadow passed two steps of the sundial.

1035 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:56:27pm

re: #1015 Silhouette

We did that here for a while, after Dustoff kept calling me Norm.

1036 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:56:27pm

re: #983 Shay4l

"Bad craziness is San Francisco"

Is there any good craziness?

I mean other than sex with crazy chicks.

Image: 41685116_f3d69443b7_o.jpg

1037 Haiku  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:56:49pm

re: #981 realwest

You're right. I haven't watched CNN in years and knew it was biased but was surprised that they were so blatant about it. I could just imagine what the coverage on MSNBC is like. Even Fox is getting biased toward Israel.

I just heard that 30 Israeli soldiers were hurt, two critically. I pray for them and the people of Israel. There's a lot of support for Israel around the world but we aren't a bunch of loud violent thugs so we get ignored by the media.

1038 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:57:10pm

re: #1015 Silhouette

Why do I imagine you entering the bar, and all the regulars yelling "NOAM!"?

It would be funny if the LGF regulars decided to welcome Noam to a thread thusly. At least for the first couple days.

1039 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:57:13pm
1040 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:57:16pm

re: #986 njdhockeyfan

UN fails to agree on Gaza

Heh. The UN is good at getting nothing accomplished.

UN = Epic Fail

1041 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:58:07pm

re: #1029 sattv4u2

Thats all well and good, but after he serves his time at both Levenworth and the half way house, and after he has his meeting with Goodell where he shows contrition (which he already has) he will be re-instated. The only reason why he hasn;'t already is that he is still incarcerated.

Wanna bet? NO WAY the NFL will take that kind of bad publicity hit.

1042 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:58:42pm

re: #991 jaunte Well 30 Hamas dead vs 28 Israeli wounded isn't terrible, though it's a higher ratio than I originally expected.
But I did find this somewhat disturbing in your link:

Six rockets were fired on open areas in the Sederot and Eshkol regions since the ground troops crossed into Gaza around 7 p.m. Saturday, and an uncertain quiet permeated highly populated southern city.
1043 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:58:46pm

re: #1041 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wanna bet? NO WAY the NFL will take that kind of bad publicity hit.

I've already got $20 on the line with RealWest. I won't mind taking your money also!

1044 spirochete  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:59:04pm

re: #1039 Iron Fist

One of the bass players I worked with when I was playing guitar had his crazy wife pull a carpet-cutting knife on him out of the blue right in front of all of us. He took it in stride, just disarmed her and calmed her down. I'd have been looking for a divorce lawyer if I'd been him.

Well, but he was a bass player, so he didn't need all those fingers.

1045 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:59:23pm

Jim Clancy, CNN, is a sell-out to Islam, IMO

1046 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 8:59:26pm

re: #1035 Noam Sayin'

We did that here for a while, after Dustoff kept calling me Norm.

Crap, I kinda suspected that.


Never mind!

1047 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:00:21pm

re: #1039 Iron Fist

One of the bass players I worked with when I was playing guitar had his crazy wife pull a carpet-cutting knife on him out of the blue right in front of all of us. He took it in stride, just disarmed her and calmed her down. I'd have been looking for a divorce lawyer if I'd been him.

that ,,, and they were right in the middle of re-doing their rugs!

1048 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:00:29pm

re: #1038 Shay4l

Just for you, Shay. I'll go out and come back in.

*leaves*

*enters*

Evening, everybody.

1049 melinwy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:00:45pm

re: #1040 Dark_Falcon

UN = Epic Fail

unadulterated nitwits?

1050 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:00:50pm

re: #1048 Noam Sayin'

Just for you, Shay. I'll go out and come back in.

*leaves*

*enters*

Evening, everybody.

NOAM ,,,, !

1051 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:00:52pm

re: #1030 realwest

We were talking earlier about how Syria destroyed the city of Hama and killed off tens of thousands of people to squash a rebellion from the Muslim Brotherhood in 1982. CNN would have yawned at that. Arabs killing Arabs is not newsworthy.

1052 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:01:02pm

re: #997 Wishing
Well according to juante's link in #991, they are also fighting in Gaza City and I thought that was in Southern Gaza, no?!

1053 spirochete  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:01:22pm

Noam!

1054 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:01:27pm

re: #1048 Noam Sayin'

NOAM!

1055 DesertSage  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:01:46pm

re: #1035 Noam Sayin'

We did that here for a while, after Dustoff kept calling me Norm.

I remember that night. Dustoff left and someone took his stool.

I think it was Frasier?

1056 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:02:10pm

NOAM!

1057 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:02:13pm

re: #1051 Mich-again

We were talking earlier about how Syria destroyed the city of Hama and killed off tens of thousands of people to squash a rebellion from the Muslim Brotherhood in 1982. CNN would have yawned at that. Arabs killing Arabs is not newsworthy.

In fact, I would bet that CNN has not covered the story of Hamas shooting out the kneecaps of other Muslims in Gaza, have they?

1058 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:02:16pm

Noam! What's shaking Noam?

1059 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:02:17pm

re: #1029 sattv4u2

Thats all well and good, but after he serves his time at both Levenworth and the half way house, and after he has his meeting with Goodell where he shows contrition (which he already has) he will be re-instated. The only reason why he hasn;'t already is that he is still incarcerated.

And what team would take that chance on signing that scumbag and all the negative PR that would follow him wherever he goes? It's not worth it. Vick is radioactive here. His only chance is Canada.

1060 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:02:20pm
1061 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:02:26pm

re: #1008 Noam Sayin'
Ah Noam! If they knew you any better they'd be trying to marry ya, ya big lug!
;')

1062 coldpizza  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:02:28pm

Some of those ignorant anti Israel blah blah blahs reminded me of Rachel Corrie. Can someone please pass the maple syrup, I'm hoping for some pancakes.

1063 Digital Display  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:02:55pm

re: #1052 realwest

Well according to juante's link in #991, they are also fighting in Gaza City and I thought that was in Southern Gaza, no?!

I thought that was in the northern side RW...I'll check google maps

1064 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:03:04pm

re: #1057 Wishing

In fact, I would bet that CNN has not covered the story of Hamas shooting out the kneecaps of other Muslims in Gaza, have they?

If they did, it was only to blame Israel for the whole mess.

1065 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:03:08pm

re: #1024 Shay4l

That's what I mean! Crazy sex is usually pretty wild, it's the crazy relationship that spoils it all.

Oh, yeah.

1066 Silhouette  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:03:33pm

re: #1047 sattv4u2

that ,,, and they were right in the middle of re-doing their rugs!

She told him four times...Take. Off. Your. Shoes. On. The. New. Carpet! ! !

1067 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:03:42pm

re: #1058 Shay4l

Noam! What's shaking Noam?

All four cheeks and a couple of chins. Gimme a beer, will ya?

1068 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:03:45pm

re: #1052 realwest

Well according to juante's link in #991, they are also fighting in Gaza City and I thought that was in Southern Gaza, no?!

Nope Real, they are only on the ground in northern Gaza.

1069 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:03:47pm

Fox is running the show about the Hamas leader's son who converted.

1070 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:04:09pm

re: #1015 Silhouette
ROTFLMAO! That's why I always greet him with a "HEY NOAM"! LOL!

1071 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:04:12pm

re: #1004 Silhouette

If it makes you feel any better, I regularly talk to a guy who sells children shoes nationwide, and he says Knoxville is his most conservative customer base. His words: "You guys still want little girls to be little girls." I've seen the "Juicy" shorts too, but overall, we're not that bad.

I was in line at a store the other day, behind a young woman who was wearing sweatpants with "Sexy" written across her tuchis. She was with her son, who was about four. I was thinking, hon, when you have a child with you who's nearly old enough to read your butt, it is time to retire those...

1072 jaunte  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:04:15pm

re: #1052 realwest

Well according to juante's link in #991, they are also fighting in Gaza City and I thought that was in Southern Gaza, no?!

No, it's the orange bit up north:
Image: gaza_strip_1999.jpg

1073 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:04:24pm

re: #1060 Iron Fist

Under 18 here can't get a tattoo unless it is a coverup job, and even then only with permission from their parents. Of course, the parents could be nuts. Where I go for my tattoos we had a couple bring in their 12 year old daughter to get her navel pierced. The kid didn't want it, and was clearly terrified. The shop owner refused to do it, but they probably found someone to do it for them.

That is so sad. That poor child. I wouldn't let my daughter get her ears pierced until she was twelve because I wanted to be certain it was her choice.

1074 spirochete  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:04:32pm

re: #1060 Iron Fist

Something definitely wrong there.

1075 coldpizza  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:04:50pm

re: #1069 MandyManners

Fox is running the show about the Hamas leader's son who converted.

that should be mandatory viewing for the MSM scum.

1076 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:05:20pm

re: #1062 coldpizza

I'm hoping for some pancakes.

During a timeout in the Colts game I scanned the news and caught a bit about how Israel was sending in tanks and D9 bulldozers. Go CATS!

1077 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:05:24pm

re: #1061 realwest

I'd marry the redhead tomorrow. Aside from being a great kisser, she's totally cute and funny as hell.

1078 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:05:32pm

re: #1059 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

And what team would take that chance on signing that scumbag and all the negative PR that would follow him wherever he goes? It's not worth it. Vick is radioactive here. His only chance is Canada.

I'm not advocating it, I'm just stating facts. Here's why
The Falcons still own his rights. Arthur Blank (their owner) still has a soft spot for Vick (google the Atlanta Journal Constitution) Blank has Goodells ear and will lobby for Vick to be re0instated. The Falcons will take a minimal offer (late round draft pick) for his rights.

1079 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:05:45pm

re: #1039 Iron Fist

Can I just say, "EEEEP!"?

I remember quoting Buffy during the break-up with the crazy dude: "If you finish that sentence, I'm going to have to break your arm."

I've talked guys out of shooting me. I've done a lot of things. Knives always worry me, on the Lord Peter principle: A bullet can go anywhere, but steel has to go somewhere.

1080 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:05:49pm

re: #1026 spirochete

Anyone know where I can get a black T shirt with three large letters "IDF" in white written across it?

CafePress will make you one, if they don't have one already.

1081 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:06:20pm

re: #1067 Noam Sayin'

All four cheeks and a couple of chins. Gimme a beer, will ya?

*Slides the big guy a cold one*


How's it going, Mr Sayin?

1082 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:06:45pm

Whats going down Noam?

1083 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:06:54pm

re: #1069 MandyManners

Fox is running the show about the Hamas leader's son who converted.

gotta go watch.
He apparently would like to use his newfound knowledge to try to turn the tide, somehow. bbl

1084 So?  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:07:00pm

I would have loved to have heard a response from these Hamas lovin protestors the answer to the following question:

What do you think of the fact that Hamass stores weapons in holy Mosques throughout Gaza?

1085 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:07:07pm

re: #1066 Silhouette

She told him four times...Take. Off. Your. Shoes. On. The. New. Carpet! ! !

Man, I can see that in my head.


I need another cold Stella.

1086 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:07:36pm

re: #1031 HoosierHoops
LOL! Well look at it this way Hoops - it's a good reason to get bombed again - and so quickly after New Years Eve, to boot!
But I still wonder if the Chargers are that good or were the Colts just overconfident? Or did the ref's help out the Chargers?

1087 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:08:17pm

re: #1078 sattv4u2

I'm not advocating it, I'm just stating facts. Here's why
The Falcons still own his rights. Arthur Blank (their owner) still has a soft spot for Vick (google the Atlanta Journal Constitution) Blank has Goodells ear and will lobby for Vick to be re0instated. The Falcons will take a minimal offer (late round draft pick) for his rights.

What is the bet you have with RW?

1088 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:08:28pm

re: #1087 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

What is the bet you have with RW?

$20

1089 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:08:53pm

re: #1082 Mich-again

Whats going down Noam?

My butt cheeks, on that bar stool.

1090 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:08:59pm

re: #1060 Iron Fist

I read your comment three times. I'm having trouble processing this. Parents forcing a child to mutilate herself?!

I'm having a problem with this.

1091 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:09:19pm

re: #1060 Iron Fist

Under 18 here can't get a tattoo unless it is a coverup job, and even then only with permission from their parents. Of course, the parents could be nuts. Where I go for my tattoos we had a couple bring in their 12 year old daughter to get her navel pierced. The kid didn't want it, and was clearly terrified. The shop owner refused to do it, but they probably found someone to do it for them.

Last year I was working at a school where all the kids were getting tattooed like crazy. Worse, they kept falling in love, and getting each others' names tattooed on them, and then...you can see where this is going.

I asked one of them where he was getting his work done, and he told me that his cousin Jose had a set of equipment and worked out of his garage.

Thank God I'm back in Catholic education.

1092 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:09:25pm

mmmm redheads

Just gotta watch out for that temper.

1093 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:10:06pm

re: #1081 Shay4l

*Slides the big guy a cold one*

How's it going, Mr Sayin?

It's a dog-eat-dog world, Shay, and I'm wearing Milk-bone underwear.

1094 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:10:21pm

re: #1088 sattv4u2

$20

No, not how much, but rather what is the bet?

1095 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:10:22pm

re: #1033 jcm
Yep, maybe the best idea McCain put forth, albeit too briefly, was the formation of a League of Democracies in lieu of the effin' UN.
I'd like to see that. Course I'd like to see the US out of the UN (which will bankrupt the UN) and the UN out of the US.
But I'm afeared Obama doesn't share my sentiments on that issue.

1096 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:10:35pm

re: #1069 MandyManners

Fox is running the show about the Hamas leader's son who converted.

I suggest people who are of the prayerful persuasion pray hard for that man.

1097 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:10:53pm

re: #1084 So?

I would have loved to have heard a response from these Hamas lovin protestors the answer to the following question:

What do you think of the fact that Hamass stores weapons in holy Mosques throughout Gaza?

They'd say Hams is justified in doing whatever it needs to do to "resist occupation". In their lack of thinking (I can't call it way of thinking) the underdog (aka the resistors) can do no wrong while the big dog can do no right.

Fools.

1098 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:10:54pm

re: #1094 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No, not how much, but rather what is the bet?

I said Vick will be on an NFL roster opening day, Real says he won't even be in a camp

1099 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:10:59pm

re: #1084 So?

I would have loved to have heard a response from these Hamas lovin protestors the answer to the following question:

What do you think of the fact that Hamass stores weapons in holy Mosques throughout Gaza?

Because weapons use to kill Jooos are holy in Islam?

1100 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:11:19pm

re: #1086 realwest

I didn't have a horse in that race. But the Chargers shouldn't have needed OT. Two turnovers in the end zone in 2nd half and an Indy TD when the Chargers D completely went to sleep. You usually don't win a close game when all that happens. Indy can't complain about the officiating. They had enough breaks to win.

1101 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:11:55pm

re: #1092 Shay4l

mmmm redheads

Just gotta watch out for that temper.

I'm Irish. That's called love.

Damn, but I love redheads...

1102 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:12:07pm

re: #1095 realwest

Yep, maybe the best idea McCain put forth, albeit too briefly, was the formation of a League of Democracies in lieu of the effin' UN.
I'd like to see that. Course I'd like to see the US out of the UN (which will bankrupt the UN) and the UN out of the US.
But I'm afeared Obama doesn't share my sentiments on that issue.

No, the 0 wants to kiss the UN's ass. Of course, the UN is all asshole, except for a few people from the US and Israel.

1103 Kragar  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:12:18pm

re: #1090 Dianna

I read your comment three times. I'm having trouble processing this. Parents forcing a child to mutilate herself?!

I'm having a problem with this.

My mom tried for years to get me to pierce an ear. She actually took me to a place as a graduation suprise. I had to tell her time and again, thanks but no thanks.

1104 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:12:48pm

re: #1094 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #1098 sattv4u2

I said Vick will be on an NFL roster opening day, Real says he won't even be in a camp

and barring a dibilitating injury during training camp, he WILL. It's just a matter of formalities now.

Release from Levenworth 9January 20th)
6 months at a hal way house
while there, meet with Goodell, who re-instates him
Falcons take offers and accept the best one

1105 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:13:05pm
1106 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:13:24pm

Anti-Jewish Vandalism Linked To Gaza

Two anti-Jewish acts in Paris have been linked to Israel’s operation in Gaza. The crimes were reported by the Bureau of Vigilance Against Anti-Semitism, as pro-Palestinian rallies were held across France.

The bureau said in a statement that a rabbi’s car was vandalized, and anti-Jewish graffiti was drawn on the wall of a shopping center, in response to the Israeli raid in Gaza.

“Through their gesture, the anti-Semitic authors wanted to avenge the Palestinians,” said the statement.

1107 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:13:37pm

re: #1091 SanFranciscoZionist

Last year I was working at a school where all the kids were getting tattooed like crazy. Worse, they kept falling in love, and getting each others' names tattooed on them, and then...you can see where this is going.

I asked one of them where he was getting his work done, and he told me that his cousin Jose had a set of equipment and worked out of his garage.

Thank God I'm back in Catholic education.

I'm bluing my nic; please email me and let me know where you're working, if it's in San Francisco.

1108 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:13:40pm

re: #1035 Noam Sayin'
AHEM! PLEASE SEE MY #170!

1109 So?  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:13:51pm

Are there no Jews in San Francisco? What 6 Jews showed up? There should have been just as many Jews on the sidelines in SOLIDARITY WITH ISRAEL.

pisses me off!

1110 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:14:12pm

re: #1090 Dianna

You should be having a problem with it. It's child abuse.

One of mine and my children's happiest memories was last summer when I took them into the doctor for a checkup. Two middle boys. I assured them, multiple times, that they would not get a shot.

At the end of the appointment, the doctor said, "by the way, we're screening for tetanus boosters." Turns to me. "When was the last time you had a tetanus booster?"

Oh, they thought it was funny. So did I. We all laughed for the rest of the day, except the little winces I gave because my arm was sore.

Point of the story? They want something pierced? They have two whole bodies of their own.

1111 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:14:33pm

re: #1092 Shay4l

mmmm redheads

Just gotta watch out for that temper.

I have a friend who says, "I'm married to a red head. If I need a mistress, I'm sure she'll let me know."

1112 Digital Display  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:15:31pm

re: #1095 realwest

Yep, maybe the best idea McCain put forth, albeit too briefly, was the formation of a League of Democracies in lieu of the effin' UN.
I'd like to see that. Course I'd like to see the US out of the UN (which will bankrupt the UN) and the UN out of the US.
But I'm afeared Obama doesn't share my sentiments on that issue.

thanks RW...I'm watching CNN International on High def...
After the Colts loss..Football is dead to me this year :)

1113 So?  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:15:44pm

re: #1106 njdhockeyfan

Anti-Jewish Vandalism Linked To Gaza

no kidding...this is only the beginning...Jews need to get out there and march too. SOLIDARITY WITH ISRAEL.

1114 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:16:16pm

re: #1063 HoosierHoops
Well Juante's link was an Israeli source and they said Southern city.
Unless I misread it.

1115 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:17:00pm

re: #1098 sattv4u2

I said Vick will be on an NFL roster opening day, Real says he won't even be in a camp

Crap, I'll take that bet. And I'll tell you why it will not happen the way you think it will. If, and this is a big IF, if he is paroled, and Vick has to go to a half-way house, he'll be treated and have to abide by the same rules as all the other people there. He has to be, since if they make an exception for him, all the others there will say "why not me?".

1116 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:17:27pm
1117 melinwy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:17:33pm

re: #1113 So?

should we not all get out there? I would if
there are any in my areas, I'll be there if
they come here.

1118 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:17:49pm

Different worlds...

My family lost their shit when I got a pierced ear. They tend to show disapproval at anything I do. Who knows what they'd think if they found out I got my navel pierced.

Same with the tatts.

Now, half the family has tattoos, memorializing my brother.

1119 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:17:59pm

re: #873 DesertSage

I can't wait to see what Obama will do.


I can wait

1120 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:18:15pm

re: #1103 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My mom tried for years to get me to pierce an ear. She actually took me to a place as a graduation suprise. I had to tell her time and again, thanks but no thanks.

I shared a birthday with a guy in college, and we each got one ear pierced for "our" birthday.

To say that I don't react well to piercings is putting it mildly, so, though at one point I had a pierced ear, I don't any more. And when a certain boyfriend (ages and ages ago) wanted me to get certain bits of my anatomy pierced, I returned an emphatic "No!".

1121 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:18:18pm

re: #1112 HoosierHoops

Football is dead to me this year

Thats the beauty of being from a city with no team in the playoffs. You can enjoy every game as a fan of the game, not a fan of any particular team.

1122 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:19:00pm

re: #986 njdhockeyfan

UN fails to agree on Gaza

Heh. The UN is good at getting nothing accomplished.

This is a good thing, God forbid they do anything, it would only be bad

1123 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:19:03pm

re: #1063 HoosierHoops
Well hoops I quoted from IsraelNationalNews.com at
[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

1124 So?  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:19:04pm

re: #1117 melinwy

should we not all get out there? I would if
there are any in my areas, I'll be there if
they come here.

should we not all get out there? ***YES!

I would if there are any in my areas, I'll be there if
they come here. ****GOOD. GREAT.

1125 Digital Display  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:19:06pm

re: #1114 realwest

Well Juante's link was an Israeli source and they said Southern city.
Unless I misread it.

mmm..I'm thinking after the Colts game and a 12 pack..You are probably correct...In fact..Let's go to Vegas..

1126 jcm  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:19:06pm

re: #1105 Iron Fist

All a gun does (pistol, at least) is give you range. If they are close enough, I'd rather have to face a gun than a knife. With a knife, you are going to get cut unless you are very, very good and a little lucky.

There's a reason for the 21 foot rule.

1127 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:19:09pm

re: #755 jaunte

First sighting of Gaza "quagmire?"
(4th para in story)

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

This one Real?

1128 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:19:12pm

re: #1115 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Crap, I'll take that bet. And I'll tell you why it will not happen the way you think it will. If, and this is a big IF, if he is paroled, and Vick has to go to a half-way house, he'll be treated and have to abide by the same rules as all the other people there. He has to be, since if they make an exception for him, all the others there will say "why not me?".

He's been doing that since he's been in Leavenworth, which has a lot more stringent rules than a halfway house has. he's ALREADY done the hard part. he gets out January 20th!

1129 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:20:16pm

re: #1120 Dianna

And when a certain boyfriend (ages and ages ago) wanted me to get certain bits of my anatomy pierced..

That is really weird. If you love me, you'll mutilate your body for me. Yech.

1130 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:20:28pm

re: #1068 Wishing
Uh, kindly check out IsraelNationalNews.com at
[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]
Perhaps I misread it.

1131 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:20:54pm

re: #1108 realwest

AHEM! PLEASE SEE MY #170!

I presume you meant your #1070?

I saw it. I just didn't have any material for that one.

1132 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:20:58pm

re: #1105 Iron Fist

All a gun does (pistol, at least) is give you range. If they are close enough, I'd rather have to face a gun than a knife. With a knife, you are going to get cut unless you are very, very good and a little lucky.

Pretty much my philosophy of knives, as well.

Though my personal favorite story was the idjit who bounced out of the bushes at me and put a knife to my ribs. He said, "Give me your money or I'll cut you."

I looked at him, noted that he had the knife at the wrong angle (downwards), shook my head at him and said, "No, you won't." And kept walking. He stood there gibbering for a moment, then ran.

I admit that I was very, very tired.

1133 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:21:07pm

re: #1115 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #1128 sattv4u2

He's been doing that since he's been in Leavenworth, which has a lot more stringent rules than a halfway house has. he's ALREADY done the hard part. he gets out January 20th!

I'm telling you, the timing is NOT accidental
Out of prison January 20th.
He needs 6 months at the half way house (that brings us to June 20)
Let me ask you,,, when do NFL camps start !?!?!?!?!

1134 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:21:09pm

re: #998 UberInfidel67

Extravagant wave.
Wish you had made the party.

1135 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:21:10pm

re: #1128 sattv4u2

He's been doing that since he's been in Leavenworth, which has a lot more stringent rules than a halfway house has. he's ALREADY done the hard part. he gets out January 20th!

Really? I haven't heard or read that. Cite your sources on Vick's release date.

1136 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:21:13pm

Anyone know the latest from Gaza?

I found this map, it's pretty detailed.

1137 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:21:39pm

re: #1105 Iron Fist

All a gun does (pistol, at least) is give you range. If they are close enough, I'd rather have to face a gun than a knife. With a knife, you are going to get cut unless you are very, very good and a little lucky.

Back in the day, when I was in shape and well trained I could take a gun away from just about anyone. Why? Because if he is close enough to touch and he hasn't shot you yet, he isn't ready to.

A knife? Not so easy to do without getting hurt. Even the guy that trained us said, "Now I don't think I'd ever want to really do this..."

1138 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:21:46pm

re: #1130 realwest

Uh, kindly check out IsraelNationalNews.com at
[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]
Perhaps I misread it.

Most of the ground soldiers are in northern Gaza, but fighting also was reported in Gaza City.
Good eye, Real!

1139 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:21:50pm

Jimmy Carter's houses are falling apart...

RESIDENTS of a model housing estate bankrolled by Hollywood celebrities and hand-built by Jimmy Carter, the former US president, are complaining that it is falling apart.

Fairway Oaks was built on northern Florida wasteland by 10,000 volunteers, including Carter, in a record 17-day “blitz” organised by the charity Habitat for Humanity.

Eight years later it is better known for cockroaches, mildew and mysterious skin rashes.

1140 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:21:59pm

re: #1072 jaunte
Ooops, my bad. Shoulda read that Israelnew.com more carfully I reckon!

1141 spirochete  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:22:04pm

re: #1105 Iron Fist

All a gun does (pistol, at least) is give you range. If they are close enough, I'd rather have to face a gun than a knife. With a knife, you are going to get cut unless you are very, very good and a little lucky.

Have you seen Quantam of Solace yet?

1142 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:22:05pm

Back when my daughter was 13 or 14, I took her and a (female) friend to a shopping mall. On the way, they asked about getting nose rings. I said no.

They went off, and met me at the appropriate time, when we took the planned few minutes to do final errands. When we re-joined, they had nose rings. I was wondering what to do the entire 45 minute trip back. They both ran off into the friend's house. Only afterwards, when I was wondering what her mother would say, did I find out they were clip-ons, and they had planned it.
Good thing I didn't have a heart attack the whole time!

1143 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:22:23pm

Man, I'm kinda freaking out now with a visual of Norm Peterson getting a navel piercing.

1144 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:23:24pm

re: #1128 sattv4u2

He's been doing that since he's been in Leavenworth, which has a lot more stringent rules than a halfway house has. he's ALREADY done the hard part. he gets out January 20th!


Still in time for next season, but I think he might have to wait a year for memories to fade.

Although there is no parole in the federal system, with time off for good behavior Vick could be released in the summer of 2009.
1145 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:23:28pm

re: #1077 Noam Sayin'
" Aside from being a great kisser, she's totally cute and funny as hell."
Ah yes, the absolute necessities in making a great marriage!
/

1146 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:23:43pm

re: #1139 njdhockeyfan

Jimmy Carter's houses are falling apart...

Habitat for inhumanity. F*ck them. Let them go to Gaza and rebuild housing there. No weapons in the basements or anywhere else, though!

1147 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:23:57pm

re: #1129 Mich-again

That is really weird. If you love me, you'll mutilate your body for me. Yech.

Yeah. I know.

The beginning of the end of that one.

1148 Digital Display  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:24:23pm

re: #1143 Shay4l

Man, I'm kinda freaking out now with a visual of Norm Peterson getting a navel piercing.

So when he walks into a tattoo shop does everybody yell ' Norm!'

1149 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:25:13pm

I'm not much into Biblical Prophesy, but I do think there is a good chance the big ugly prayer bump on the forehead of Islamic nutjobs who deform their foreheads by pounding it into the floor over and over again is a good candidate for the mark of the beast.

1150 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:25:58pm

re: #1145 realwest

Mostly they should think I'm funny, and know I'm full of shit.

1151 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:26:01pm

re: #1088 sattv4u2
Uh, I thought it was more like $50 no?!

1152 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:26:04pm

re: #1136 Desert Dog

Anyone know the latest from Gaza?

I found this map, it's pretty detailed.

A Lizard linked this earlier today.

1153 joo-liz  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:26:14pm

re: #1136 Desert Dog

Anyone know the latest from Gaza?

I found this map, it's pretty detailed.

I like this map

1154 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:26:57pm

re: #1142 Kosh's Shadow

Back when my daughter was 13 or 14, I took her and a (female) friend to a shopping mall. On the way, they asked about getting nose rings. I said no.

They went off, and met me at the appropriate time, when we took the planned few minutes to do final errands. When we re-joined, they had nose rings. I was wondering what to do the entire 45 minute trip back. They both ran off into the friend's house. Only afterwards, when I was wondering what her mother would say, did I find out they were clip-ons, and they had planned it.
Good thing I didn't have a heart attack the whole time!

In college, one of my friends took me aside and asked if she had done anything to offend my father. I didn't think so.

"He doesn't look me in the face anymore," she said.

I had to explain it was the nose ring--he couldn't look at her head-on anymore, because it grossed him out. Nothing personal.

1155 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:26:57pm

re: #1135 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Really? I haven't heard or read that. Cite your sources on Vick's release date.

[Link: sportsillustrated.cnn.com...]

Vick is scheduled for release on July 20, 2009, and will serve three years of probation. His latest plea is important because it resolves the remaining charges against him, which is required under federal law if he is to move into a halfway house.

The deal during his Virginia case stated that he moves to the halfway house for the last 6 months of his sentence

1156 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:26:58pm

re: #1149 Mich-again

I'm not much into Biblical Prophesy, but I do think there is a good chance the big ugly prayer bump on the forehead of Islamic nutjobs who deform their foreheads by pounding it into the floor over and over again is a good candidate for the mark of the beast.

Well for sure that guy looks like a candidate for position of AC! Dead eyes or what!

1157 Ledger1  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:27:13pm

It looks like the Car-B-Qs are in full swing in France. Which seems to be well synchronized with Sarkozy visit to Ramallah to negotiate a seize fire agreement with Israel (Maximum Jihad and maximum negotiation pressure on France and the Israel).

See: youths turn violent

Btw, who pays for all these BBQ’d cars? Do the French get a free car after the old one is burned?

1158 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:27:17pm

re: #1149 Mich-again

I'm not much into Biblical Prophesy, but I do think there is a good chance the big ugly prayer bump on the forehead of Islamic nutjobs who deform their foreheads by pounding it into the floor over and over again is a good candidate for the mark of the beast.

Naa, he just found out he could have had a V-8 and did a little self-flagellating

1159 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:27:17pm

re: #1145 realwest

" Aside from being a great kisser, she's totally cute and funny as hell."
Ah yes, the absolute necessities in making a great marriage!
/

Don't forget the temper. It seals the deal.

(I was with a redheaded Irish lass for 5 glorious years in the 90's, not speaking out my ass from stereotypes)

1160 Joan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:27:46pm

re: #1110 EmmmieG

It is child abuse. Why a navel piercing? That is so creepy. Who are they wanting this child to seduce, anyway?

1161 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:27:55pm

re: #1144 solomonpanting

see my 1155. he goes from Leavenworth to a halfway house January 20

1162 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:28:00pm

re: #1152 MandyManners

Man, you can almost see the piles of sh*t in that one!

1163 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:28:07pm

re: #1139 njdhockeyfan

Jimmy Carter's houses are falling apart...

RESIDENTS of a model housing estate bankrolled by Hollywood celebrities and hand-built by Jimmy Carter, the former US president, are complaining that it is falling apart.

Fairway Oaks was built on northern Florida wasteland by 10,000 volunteers, including Carter, in a record 17-day “blitz” organised by the charity Habitat for Humanity.

Eight years later it is better known for cockroaches, mildew and mysterious skin rashes.

I know someone who was "selected" to have some backyard work finished in a couple of days for some TV show. One of the projects was a builtin BBQ with stucco walls and tile top. After a few months the stucco was cracking and the grout was falling out.
But it sure looked pretty the day it was finished!

1164 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:28:08pm
1165 Wishing  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:28:10pm

re: #1153 joo-liz

I like this map

This is by far the best!

1166 njdhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:28:31pm

This is sick...

BBC unveils Anne Frank the sexual teenager

ANNE FRANK is to be portrayed as a stroppy teenager undergoing her sexual awakening in a new television adaptation of her wartime diary.

In the drama to be shown this week, Anne, a Jewish victim of the Nazis, is shown having her first experience of love, kissing a boy with whom she is hiding from the Nazis.

The portrayal is a deliberate attempt to make Anne a more rounded character than in previous versions that have shown her more as a child martyr and symbol of Jewish suffering.

“I’ve not made her the sanctified Anne as she has been portrayed before,” said Deborah Moggach, the screenwriter and novelist. “Nor is she the voice of 6m Jews who died in the Holocaust. Again she’s been portrayed as that before.”

1167 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:28:44pm

re: #1149 Mich-again

I'm not much into Biblical Prophesy, but I do think there is a good chance the big ugly prayer bump on the forehead of Islamic nutjobs who deform their foreheads by pounding it into the floor over and over again is a good candidate for the mark of the beast.

Isn;t it supposed to be a number?

1168 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:28:47pm

re: #1100 Mich-again
So Indy played crappy or San Diego's defense rose to the occasion?!

1169 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:29:43pm

re: #1152 MandyManners

A Lizard linked this earlier today.

What are the boundaries of the Gaza strip? If you go far enough West you eventually get to an area where there are green areas. I figure that must be outside Gaza.

Hamas = Increasing Entropy, as in grass won't grow there.

1170 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:30:02pm

re: #1144 solomonpanting

re: #1135 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

[Link: www.mahalo.com...]

On November 16, 2008, news agencies reported that Michael Vick's attorney stated that Vick could possibly be released from prison and moved to a halfway house as early as January 20, 2009. Vick is in the process of serving a 23 month prison sentence at Leavenworth, Kansas. He is scheduled to be released on July 20, 2008.

1171 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:30:25pm

re: #1157 Ledger1

It looks like the Car-B-Qs are in full swing in France. Which seems to be well synchronized with Sarkozy visit to Ramallah to negotiate a seize fire agreement with Israel (Maximum Jihad and maximum negotiation pressure on France and the Israel).

See: youths turn violent

Btw, who pays for all these BBQ’d cars? Do the French get a free car after the old one is burned?

It is the French car company bailout. Everyone gets a free Renault or Citroen.
A few months later, they'll trade them in for something that actually runs.

1172 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:31:44pm

re: #1168 realwest

So Indy played crappy or San Diego's defense rose to the occasion?!

in the 4th Q

1173 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:31:48pm

re: #1105 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - "With a knife, you are going to get cut unless you are very, very good and a little lot lucky."
There, thought I'd fix that for ya!
BTW, could y'all send me an e-mail - yours is currently somewhere on my new computer, but only the computer gods know where!

1174 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:32:23pm

re: #1168 realwest

So Indy played crappy or San Diego's defense rose to the occasion?!

The latter. They played inspired D tonight. That and some luck with the coin toss in OT.

A coin toss should not be that important in a playoff football game. And we Americans scoff at the shootouts that soccer uses to decide a tie game.

1175 melinwy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:32:25pm

re: #1124 So?

I believe this to be more than just about Israel, it is
about humanity, civilization as a whole. Are we to be
barbarians, or civilized people, what are we to
accept as a people of the world.

1176 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:32:46pm

re: #1151 realwest

Uh, I thought it was more like $50 no?!

your call ,,,,, your cash ,,, i'll take $50 as fast (hell ,, FASTER) than I would take $20 from ya !

1177 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:33:24pm
1178 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:33:28pm

re: #1174 Mich-again

The latter. They played inspired D tonight. That and some luck with the coin toss in OT.

A coin toss should not be that important in a playoff football game. And we Americans scoff at the shootouts that soccer uses to decide a tie game.

amen ,,, I always hated that both teams don't get at least ONE shot at it

1179 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:33:34pm

re: #1141 spirochete

Have you seen Quantam of Solace yet?

Yes. Not as good as its predecessor IMHO.

1180 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:34:01pm

re: #1164 Iron Fist

I just can't quite wrap my head around tattoos. I've tried. But, honestly? It's always bothered me. I held a friend's hand through being tattooed, and I can't imagine doing that.

I know some people call it body art, and I've known people who were all but the illustrated man, but I just don't see it.

1181 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:34:18pm

re: #1109 So?
San Francisco Jews are Lefties first, Jews a distant second.
Why the hell do you think Obama got a majority of the Jewish vote? And the Dems have been getting close to 66% of the Jewish vote for years and years.

1182 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:34:51pm

re: #1179 rawmuse

Yes. Not as good as its predecessor IMHO.

I agree, Casino Royale was much better

I recently saw "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button", I really like that movie. It was very original.

1183 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:35:09pm

re: #1166 njdhockeyfan

This is sick...

BBC unveils Anne Frank the sexual teenager

Um...to be fair? Anne Frank and her boyfriend were active. They'd put their armbands in the mailbox to signal when they needed to be left alone.

Even I remember that.

1184 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:35:15pm

re: #1155 sattv4u2

Vick is scheduled for release on July 20, 2009

So how do you figure he'll be out this week, 1-9-09?

1185 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:35:31pm

re: #1167 Shay4l

Its a number if you read it literally. But if you consistently read the words literally it all falls apart anyway. What could be more of an indelible mark than a deformed forehead? You can't hide that.

1186 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:35:32pm

re: #1111 Dianna
ROFL! Hey Dianna - wish I could give ya more than one upding for that one!

1187 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:36:03pm

re: #1182 Desert Dog

I want to see Gran Torino tomorrow, but the missus has other plans.
May go with a friend. I hear it is not a "chick flick".

1188 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:36:33pm
1189 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:36:41pm

re: #1187 rawmuse

I want to see Gran Torino tomorrow, but the missus has other plans.
May go with a friend. I hear it is not a "chick flick".

That's on my list to see too....Clint usually does good movies....not always, but that one looks good.

1190 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:36:42pm

re: #1163 solomonpanting

I know someone who was "selected" to have some backyard work finished in a couple of days for some TV show. One of the projects was a builtin BBQ with stucco walls and tile top. After a few months the stucco was cracking and the grout was falling out.
But it sure looked pretty the day it was finished!

I'd going to print this article and give it to my mother. She's always going on about Carter's Habitat for Humanity work. This ought to keep her from bugging me about that for awhile.

1191 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:37:16pm

OK, I'm babbling like crazy today on every thread I find, so I may as well admit it. This anti-Israel **** freaks me out. I went to the Tuesday night counterdemo, haven't caught any of the others, but the intensity of this round is getting under my skin. It wasn't this bad when Israel was in Lebanon a couple years ago.

It's not the actual Arabs. I'm OK with Palestinian protestors, I feel like we both know the score. It's the psychotic Anglo Marxist ANSWER freaks with the covered faces and the crazy eyes and the screeching voices and the hell-bound self-righteousness, and the pathetic local media coverage, and...I'm OK, but my stomach feels a little queasy tonight.

OK. Better now.

1192 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:37:37pm

re: #1121 Mich-again

Thats the beauty of being from a city with no team in the playoffs. You can enjoy every game as a fan of the game, not a fan of any particular team.


Lions fan, eh?
/ducks!

1193 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:37:48pm

Jumping next door --->

1194 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:37:48pm

Realwest

The stone has departed...:)


You have mail...:)

1195 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:37:48pm

re: #1151 realwest

I want you to put on your lawyer hat and think of this logically.
He's scheduled to be released June 20th
Goodell can't re-instate him till he's out of prison
His Attorney took care of the Virginia case ENSURING he would spend the last 6 months of his sentence (wait for it ) OUT OF PRISON. (in a halfway house) This clears the path fopr Goodell, which clears the path for the Falcons (whose owner is lobbying for his re-instatement) to trade his rights.
Its a done deal!

1196 Ledger1  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:38:01pm

re: #1171 Kosh's Shadow

Sound reasonable to me!
/

1197 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:38:28pm

re: #1177 Iron Fist

There's a real funny story about the late Grandmaster Remey Presas and a guy trying to rob him at knife point. He took the knife away from the guy, and then took his money. He let the guy go, and went into the hotel bar and bought a round of drinks for the house with dude's cash.

That is a real tough guy. I unfortunately never got to train with him.

I like that!

1198 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:38:47pm

re: #1184 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

So how do you figure he'll be out this week, 1-9-09?

He is going to a HALF WAY HOUSE on January 20th for the last 6 months of his sentence ( see my 1195) (also see links below)

[Link: www.google.com...]

1199 melinwy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:39:34pm

no one wants to be first on the next thread?

1200 spirochete  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:39:47pm

re: #1179 rawmuse

I loved the knife fight scene.

1201 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:39:57pm

re: #1186 realwest

ROFL! Hey Dianna - wish I could give ya more than one upding for that one!

It's a long way back. I always worry when I'm getting updinged for cleverness I don't remember!

1202 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:40:01pm

re: #1164 Iron Fist


Personally, if I'm going to make something a permanent part of my body, I want the best money can buy, not the lowest bid.

One of my SMART students told me that she wanted a dragon on her back, but she wanted to perfect the design first, and what she wanted would cost about $3000 from a good artist, so she figured she would wait until she was out of college, and could pay for it.

1203 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:40:07pm

re: #1195 sattv4u2

I want you to put on your lawyer hat and think of this logically.
He's scheduled to be released June 20th
Goodell can't re-instate him till he's out of prison
His Attorney took care of the Virginia case ENSURING he would spend the last 6 months of his sentence (wait for it ) OUT OF PRISON. (in a halfway house) This clears the path fopr Goodell, which clears the path for the Falcons (whose owner is lobbying for his re-instatement) to trade his rights.
Its a done deal!

Wait- you said he'd be out Jan. 20th in your #1128. Now it's June 20th?

1204 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:40:16pm

re: #1199 melinwy

no one wants to be first on the next thread?

I aspire to be last

1205 6pat6  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:41:08pm

re: #1149 Mich-again

Sure, why not?

1206 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:41:27pm

re: #1203 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wait- you said he'd be out Jan. 20th in your #1128. Now it's June 20th?

out of LEAVENWORTH, I've said all along he goes from there to a HALF WAY house for 6 months

1207 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:41:38pm

re: #1198 sattv4u2

He is going to a HALF WAY HOUSE on January 20th for the last 6 months of his sentence ( see my 1195) (also see links below)

[Link: www.google.com...]

Can you not read? That says COULD, not will.

1208 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:42:25pm

re: #1127 Wishing
Well fwiw, I do think Israel needs some sort of end-game here, other than the occupation of Gaza and I frankly don't know what that is that would prevent Hamas from emerging from the rubble of Gaza, getting more rockets and (God forbid the Iranian Missilew with the range to hit Dimona).

1209 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:42:43pm

re: #1202 SanFranciscoZionist

One of my SMART students told me that she wanted a dragon on her back, but she wanted to perfect the design first, and what she wanted would cost about $3000 from a good artist, so she figured she would wait until she was out of college, and could pay for it.

With any luck, by then she'll have figured out that this is a bad idea.

1210 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:43:12pm

re: #1203 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wait- you said he'd be out Jan. 20th in your #1128. Now it's June 20th?

re: #1206 sattv4u2

out of LEAVENWORTH, I've said all along he goes from there to a HALF WAY house for 6 months

see my # 959

1211 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:43:14pm

re: #1185 Mich-again

Its a number if you read it literally. But if you consistently read the words literally it all falls apart anyway. What could be more of an indelible mark than a deformed forehead? You can't hide that.

Not arguing against you, only asking questions. It can be argued the Mohammed forehead bump is the mark of a man.

1212 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:43:44pm

Heading upstairs.

1213 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:44:13pm

re: #1190 Dark_Falcon

I'd going to print this article and give it to my mother. She's always going on about Carter's Habitat for Humanity work. This ought to keep her from bugging me about that for awhile.


-----------------------------------------------------------

The case could challenge the bedrock philosophy behind Habitat for Humanity, claiming that using volunteers, rather than professional builders, is causing as many problems as it solves.
April Charney, a lawyer representing many of the 85 homeowners in Fairway Oaks, said she had no problems taking on Habitat for Humanity, despite its status as a “darling of liberal social activists”. She said the charity should have told people that part of the estate had been built on a rubbish dump.

It's the thought that counts. Damn the results.

1214 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:44:21pm

re: #1207 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Can you not read? That says COULD, not will.

ITS A DONE DEAL ,,,, TRUST ME ..

Here ,,, i'll make it quick and easy ,, NAME YOUR AMOUNT ,,, I'll bet Michael Vick will be transferred FROM Leavenworth TO a halfway house on January 20 2009

1215 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:45:22pm

re: #1131 Noam Sayin'
EVERYBODY'S AN EDITOR THESE DAYS! Sheesh Noam, how long have I been greeting you with HEY NOAM! huh?
Since October of '05?!

1216 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:45:51pm

re: #1192 realwest

Lions fan, eh?
/ducks!

I am a huge NFL fan, but don't really care much about the home team. They have been so bad for so long I don't get upset anymore just because they are teh suck. I cashed out years ago. Whats sad is my 14 yo has about 10 NFL jerseys hanging in his closet and none of them are Lions. The last couple from this X-mas were a Brandon Jacobs Giants jersey and a Chad Henne Dolphins jersey.

If a franchise can't build a loyalty with the kids in town, it doesn't make for a strong future.

1217 joo-liz  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:46:39pm

re: #1191 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I'm babbling like crazy today on every thread I find, so I may as well admit it. This anti-Israel **** freaks me out. I went to the Tuesday night counterdemo, haven't caught any of the others, but the intensity of this round is getting under my skin. It wasn't this bad when Israel was in Lebanon a couple years ago.

It's not the actual Arabs. I'm OK with Palestinian protestors, I feel like we both know the score. It's the psychotic Anglo Marxist ANSWER freaks with the covered faces and the crazy eyes and the screeching voices and the hell-bound self-righteousness, and the pathetic local media coverage, and...I'm OK, but my stomach feels a little queasy tonight.

OK. Better now.

You did the right thing, returning to the sanctuary that is LGF.

1218 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:49:20pm

re: #1216 Mich-again

If a franchise can't build a loyalty with the kids in town, it doesn't make for a strong future.

Maybe they should ask the Gov't for a bailout!

1219 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:50:12pm

re: #1148 HoosierHoops
ROFL!
Well except for Cliff Claven who says "Norm?!?

1220 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:50:36pm

Doctor Jones - The Ballad of Tim McCreedy


1221 melinwy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:50:57pm

re: #1218 sattv4u2

If a franchise can't build a loyalty with the kids in town, it doesn't make for a strong future.

Maybe they should ask the Gov't for a bailout!

are they union or dems? If so they are a go, if
not....no monies.

1222 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:52:03pm

re: #1221 melinwy

are they union or dems? If so they are a go, if
not....no monies.

well ,,, they ARE in Detroit ,, so they could be BOTH

As a matter of fact , the players ARE "union" !

1223 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:52:50pm

re: #1214 sattv4u2

ITS A DONE DEAL ,,,, TRUST ME ..

Here ,,, i'll make it quick and easy ,, NAME YOUR AMOUNT ,,, I'll bet Michael Vick will be transferred FROM Leavenworth TO a halfway house on January 20 2009

$10 says no way.

1224 melinwy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:52:52pm

re: #1222 sattv4u2

bailout in the works then eh?

1225 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:53:23pm

re: #532 Hengineer

Heh really piss her off and say "I've heard Polar Bears taste good in a stew"

It does make a nice change from whale meat every day.

1226 Idle Drifter  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:54:08pm

I'm sitting here watching this video eating ham steak, corn, and scallop potatoes drinking some Coca Cola and had a shot of Knob Creek Bourbon Whiskey when it popped into my head. I remember swearing into the USMC back in 1997:

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

1227 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:54:14pm
1228 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:54:34pm

re: #1155 sattv4u2
So you think that an NFL team will sign a guy who's on probation for another 3 years?!

1229 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:54:45pm

re: #1223 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

$10 says no way.

easiest $10 I'll ever make ,,,,,!


(well ,, there WAS that one time in the leather bikers bar ,,, but ,,, umm,,, neveahmind ! )

1230 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:55:20pm

re: #1228 realwest

So you think that an NFL team will sign a guy who's on probation for another 3 years?!

ummm,, YEAH !

1231 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:56:23pm

re: #1228 realwest

So you think that an NFL team will sign a guy who's on probation for another 3 years?!

Tailor-made for the Oakland Raiders.

1232 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:56:50pm

re: #1228 realwest

So you think that an NFL team will sign a guy who's on probation for another 3 years?!

two words ,,,

PACMAN JONES

1233 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:57:15pm

re: #1194 Dustyvet
The stone has departed? Yea Dusty!

1234 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:57:44pm

re: #1191 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I'm babbling like crazy today on every thread I find, so I may as well admit it. This anti-Israel **** freaks me out. I went to the Tuesday night counterdemo, haven't caught any of the others, but the intensity of this round is getting under my skin. It wasn't this bad when Israel was in Lebanon a couple years ago.

It's not the actual Arabs. I'm OK with Palestinian protestors, I feel like we both know the score. It's the psychotic Anglo Marxist ANSWER freaks with the covered faces and the crazy eyes and the screeching voices and the hell-bound self-righteousness, and the pathetic local media coverage, and...I'm OK, but my stomach feels a little queasy tonight.

OK. Better now.

They're probably adrenaline junkies. They need the fix they get from PROTESTING against the PIGS and the JEWS!

AND, AND KARL ROVE AND DICK CHENEY AND BUSHITLER!

HAHAHAHAHAHA! IMPEACH! HAGUE!

1235 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:00:07pm

re: #1231 solomonpanting

hell ,, the Lions would take him just for the gate attraction
The Raiders
The Bucs
I'll bet there are at least half a dozen teams that would look at him as an all-purpose back (think lining up in that direct snap to the running back formation, with Vick as the back and he can either run or throw)

1236 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:00:32pm

re: #1228 realwest

So you think that an NFL team will sign a guy who's on probation for another 3 years?!

re: #1233 realwest

The stone has departed? Yea Dusty!

It has gone to Gaza, and is moving into a Hamas Leader...:) No pre warning phone call...:)

1237 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:02:22pm
1238 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:04:18pm

The new thing, at least for anti-Israel demonstrators in London, is to throw their shoes

1239 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:05:21pm

re: #1238 Dustyvet

The new thing, at least for anti-Israel demonstrators in London, is to throw their shoes

which is very difficult, seeing most of them never had a pair !

1240 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:05:59pm

re: #1235 sattv4u2

hell ,, the Lions would take him just for the gate attraction
The Raiders
The Bucs
I'll bet there are at least half a dozen teams that would look at him as an all-purpose back (think lining up in that direct snap to the running back formation, with Vick as the back and he can either run or throw)

It's not a question of could these teams use him, it's will they?
I suppose we'll find out soon enough.

1241 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:06:17pm

re: #1238 Dustyvet

The new thing, at least for anti-Israel demonstrators in London, is to throw their shoes

Then others should throw tacks.

1242 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:08:16pm

re: #1218 sattv4u2

If a franchise can't build a loyalty with the kids in town, it doesn't make for a strong future.

Maybe they should ask the Gov't for a bailout!

They could ask! And if they did the Government should send in Major Payne to be the coach next year.

1243 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:08:58pm

re: #1241 Kosh's Shadow

Then others should throw tacks.

I like roofing nails...:)

1244 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:10:07pm

re: #1240 solomonpanting

It's not a question of could these teams use him, it's will they?
I suppose we'll find out soon enough.

the timing and support are all inline. as I stated above
Release from Levenworth (January 20th)
6 months at a half way house
while there, meet with Goodell, who re-instates him
Falcons take offers and accept the best one

1245 Boxy_brown  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:44:55pm

You know, unless we all start getting really mad and really loud and start pushing back against this shit this country is doomed. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Huffington and these pieces of shit are not going to leave a whole lot that would be recognizable as the society that my fathers generation worked like dogs to pass on.

People of good will seem to just roll over and take it. I am pretty sick seeing this country hijacked by scumbags like this and getting pissed off and complaining to no one in particular on the internet doesn't seem to be doing a whole lot to roll back the wave of crap that these creeps represent so well.

How has this been allowed to happen in the USA?

1246 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:48:12pm

re: #984 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

CFL- He'll end up playing in Canada.

Hopefully the felony conviction will bar him from entry here.

1247 Steffan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:56:08pm

re: #677 Outrider

Most of the government employees I know have too much work to do and not enough time to do it in -- in the age of Continuing Resolutions, overtime is strictly controlled. In the incoming administration, my bet is that the safest jobs will be with SSA -- especially in the face-to-face jobs like service representative.

I'm especially happy that I don't work for the state of CA. There is no single elected official in the state who deserves to be reelected.

1248 Green Helmet Guy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:25:05pm

re: #46 PayBackTime

I DEMAND JUSTICE for the Jews of Khaybar.

If Mohammed were alive today, he would be facing trial for War Crimes in the Hague.

Khaybar, yet another place where Jews dwelt before Islam (Just like the land of Israel, North Africa and the rest of the world for any matter). You are right Mo' should be tried for war crimes!

and the Jews should demand the "right of return to Saudi Arabia" and or compensation/ permanent refugee status from the UN.
Like this will ever happen...

When the crazed [bigoted word]s scream "Khaybar Khaybar ya Yahud, jaish-Muhammad saya'ud" they are admitting that the Jews were in Khaybar before Islam and they ethnically cleansed them.

Liberate Khaybar!

1249 Abu Al-Poopypants  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:20:56am

The pro-Palis should get some of those Sham-Wows.

They're much more absorbent and reusable than the Handi-Wipes they run around in.

1250 Smilla  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:24:10am

Thanks for everything, Zombie. Including the translation into English.

It's getting so mindless that people wear those Palistinian scarves now as "fashion statements". I stare at them real hard!

1251 Pete-billy  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:50:50am

Great job zombie, thank you !

1252 nature boy  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:00:17am

I wonder if those crazies are willing to die for the cause...?

1253 maxiton  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:28:07am

her we are ! the fifth column has begun the jobs

1254 SueG  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:37:44am

Here’s more video images of the demonstration in which that Dutch parliament member shouted intifada. Gives you an idea of his fellow protesters who openly support terrorist organisations: “Hamas, Jihad, Hezbollah”
Around a minute, you’ll hear in the background: “Hamas, hamas, joden aan het gas”, which means:
“Hamas, hamas, Jews to the gas”

1255 So What  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:42:28am

Wonder why these protesters dont schedule a protest during the Folsom Street Festival? Could they be scared of the leather folks and getting their ass whipped?

1256 Seax  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 5:14:02am

re tattoos.
An Army friend of mine was so proud of his tattoo
that he got when he was in Singapore. He had his name
written in Chinese characters on his chest. He was so
proud that he showed a chinese friend back home...
who promptly burst out laughing and said
"Hey ...big time spelling mistake!"
Another friend said chicks dig scars not tattoos...
if that's true then how come they never liked my collection?

1257 Aussie Stinger  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 7:05:44am

Arrived home earlier from a pro-Israel rally here in Melbourne.

Guys and gals, looking at this video, we gotta get out there!

Just google your local Jewish community organisation to find out where the next pro-Israel rally is, and make sure to attend with family and friends.

No wonder this guy was spooked!

How can we let these screwed up bullies think they can intimidate and threaten with violence?

If in numbers we'll be safer.

Please attend a rally near you!

1258 gegenkritik  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 7:06:19am

In Germany there were dozens of Anti-Israel-demonstrations, often with more than 10,000 people. Small groups (~20 people) of pro-Israeli were beaten up by an islamic mob.
Next week there is the first big pro-Israel-rally in Berlin.

1259 picatinny1971  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 8:30:44am

This is deeply saddening.

Seems to me that we're only steps away from the next Mumbai-like assault on a Jewish institution here in America, G-d forbid. Will the MSM still call them peace protesters?

1260 angrymimi  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 8:33:37am

re: #1232 sattv4u2

two words ,,,

PACMAN JONES

As a Dallas loyalist, I can tell you that the Pacman issue sucks....most of us if not all Cowboy fans, did NOT want him...still don't....

1261 angrymimi  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 8:54:10am

This may be the last comment down on the floor, but I have to say that watching the video one thought came to mind over and over. Why do they have to cover their faces and be so agressive? And then it dawned on me, they are idiots.

1262 J.S.  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 9:15:02am

re: #1258 gegenkritik

CNN here has also been playing and replaying an "I-report" (done by unpaid "volunteers") of the pro-terrorist mob convergence in Toronto...


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