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1 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:39:31pm

All replicants please report to level B-9.

2 tedzilla99  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:39:48pm

Amazing how we haven't heard a peep from obamessiah about the Gaza situation

Oh and happy Saturday evening :)

3 blame canada  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:39:54pm

Blow up a hamas mosque- AND THEY DOCK YA!

4 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:39:57pm

Second!

5 EmmmieG  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:39:59pm

Hmmm...

Are we going to get docked for missing sarc tags?

6 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:40:04pm

Suddenly I feel nostalgia

7 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:40:06pm

oops

8 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:40:15pm

Whew... Breathing room.

9 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:40:15pm

Oh goody..a fresh new thread to play in.

10 EmmmieG  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:40:48pm

Yeah, my computer was making hacking noises. It does that when the threads get over a thousand.

11 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:41:14pm

re: #2 tedzilla99

Amazing how we haven't heard a peep from obamessiah about the Gaza situation

Oh and happy Saturday evening :)

Fear not, we will hear more than we want too in a few weeks....

12 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:41:50pm

re: #10 EmmmieG

Yeah, my computer was making hacking noises. It does that when the threads get over a thousand.

Mine harfs up a hair ball and reboots...

13 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:42:03pm

Good night, all.

14 bosforus  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:42:07pm

Awesome movie.
Ya know, for kids!

15 blame canada  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:42:18pm

Respond with disproportionate force- AND THEY DOCK YA!

16 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:42:34pm

Bureaucracy -- the bane of humanity.

Funny thing... all those folks who want to restructure American business to be like it was in the 1950s -- heavily unionized and bureaucratized -- will be working under rules like that.

17 melinwy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:42:49pm

re: #11 Desert Dog

Fear not, we will hear more than we want too in a few weeks....

not just more, I'm thinking not what we will agree with.
I hope I am wrong though. I did hear where a Lizard said
he will go with however the wind blows....so go IDF!

18 Magalaga Ding Dong  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:44:09pm

Reminds me of the movie Brazil for some reason. I should see this movie.

19 Fearless Fred  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:44:36pm

I hate big brother so much ...... to a fault even maybe.

20 6pat6  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:44:42pm

Oh, boy, an overnight open thread! This looks like fun! Ohboyohboyohboy!

21 blame canada  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:44:48pm

Kill a hamas/nazi bigbeard and his 4 wifes- & THEY DOCK YA!

22 6pat6  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:44:57pm

re: #19 Fearless Fred

The show sucks too

23 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:45:12pm

re: #17 melinwy

not just more, I'm thinking not what we will agree with.
I hope I am wrong though. I did hear where a Lizard said
he will go with however the wind blows....so go IDF!

I agree....his "image" is more important than any deeply held belief. I did not think we'd see another politician as superficial as Slick Willie, but low and behold, we have found one.

24 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:45:42pm

Charles?

Are you feeling a bit...bitter? This is the second really upsetting quote you've posted for an overnight.

25 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:46:36pm

NOAM!

How's life treating you, Noamie?

26 6pat6  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:46:40pm

re: #2 tedzilla99

Amazing how we haven't heard a peep from obamessiah about the Gaza situation

His voice is almost as bad as The Shrill One. Four years of BHO talking about BHO is going to get old...right at the start of his Inaugural Address!

27 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:46:43pm

You have an appointment with Information Retrieval.

28 NY Nana  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:47:13pm

re: #4 LeePro

Second! Fouth!

;)

*Cough* *Cough*

29 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:47:16pm

re: #24 Dianna

I liked the Klaus Kinski one. I think it was affection disguised as animosity.
But, I've been wrong a lot lately.

30 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:47:18pm

Youtube Video

31 melinwy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:47:22pm

re: #23 Desert Dog

I agree....his "image" is more important than any deeply held belief. I did not think we'd see another politician as superficial as Slick Willie, but low and behold, we have found one.

scary on all sorts of levels, with what is going on in the world today.
Clinton didn't have nearly the urgency as I think bambi will

32 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:47:55pm

Man....

From a clock puncher in the now...

"Ouch."

33 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:48:04pm

re: #17 melinwy

not just more, I'm thinking not what we will agree with.
I hope I am wrong though. I did hear where a Lizard said
he will go with however the wind blows....so go IDF!

"The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind, the answer is blowin' in the wind"

34 traderjoe9  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:48:12pm

[Link: labrusca.blogspot.com...]

Bad advertising.

35 6pat6  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:48:32pm

BHO makes either Clinton positively Mother Teresa-ish.

36 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:48:48pm

re: #19 Fearless Fred

I hate big brother so much ...... to a fault even maybe.

There was a host of children's TV in Boston, who went by the name "Big Brother". I used to watch his show when I was growing up.

37 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:49:35pm

re: #33 Ozark Mountain Daredevil


GO BLUE STAR!

38 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:49:42pm

Does anyone here have experience using a Japanese style saw?
I am thinking of picking one up. I hear they are good for precise cuts.

39 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:50:04pm

re: #13 Noam Sayin'

Blow a kiss to your mouse for me!

40 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:50:28pm

"... And don't F* up the TPS reports!"

41 blame canada  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:50:37pm

The dying days of the bush presidency. Soon Obama will be pres, they'll close down guantanamo, and release the political prisonres from guantanamo. Whoo-hoo! The world will admire us again, and we will peace and tranquillity as in the days of yore during the reign of BJ Clinton

42 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:52:18pm

Mail Room Orienter, The Hudsucker Proxy

Not unlike
A Night in the box

Youtube Video

43 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:52:46pm

re: #38 rawmuse


Very nice, since the cut is made on the Pull vs. the Push which has much more control...meaning more control on the cut....that help?

44 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:52:51pm

Anybody celebrate New Year's Eve this way? Gee, we miss all the fun.

France's New Year's Tradition: Car-Burning

According to figures from the French Interior Ministry, 1,147 cars went up in smoke on New Year's Eve - a 30% rise on the 879 autos torched the same night in 2007. As often is the case, the worst-hit areas were the disadvantaged neighborhoods that sit beyond the suburban peripheries of most French cities.

Asshats burn cars when they are already disadvantaged (as they claim repeatedly).

45 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:53:09pm

re: #35 6pat6

BHO makes either Clinton positively Mother Teresa-ish.

The world events swirling around Obama will prove him to be not much more than an egret riding around on the back of a rhino. But true to form, he will think he is actually steering the thing.

46 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:53:28pm

re: #42 solomonpanting

Cool Hand Luke.....a classic!

47 WayDownSouthInBama  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:53:43pm

I don't care what happens after I get to work just as long as I have enough coffee before I get there. Friday mornings doesn't take as much as the four Mondays of the week.

48 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:54:13pm

re: #36 Kosh's Shadow

There was a host of children's TV in Boston, who went by the name "Big Brother". I used to watch his show when I was growing up.

Remember Rex Trailer?

49 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:54:29pm

re: #43 nightwatch

Yeah, gonna try one out if I can find one. I am doing some hand cutting woodwork, and none of my saws are right for the job.

50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:54:32pm

re: #40 Mich-again

"... And don't F* up the TPS reports!"

I've got 5 bosses, Bob.

51 JCM  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:55:13pm

U.S. Blocks U.N. Statement Calling for Gaza Cease-Fire

The United States late Saturday blocked approval of a U.N. Security Council statement calling for an immediate cease-fire in the Gaza Strip and southern Israel and expressing concern at the escalation of violence between Israel and Hamas.


Way to go GWB, Condi and Zalmay!

52 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:55:39pm

Joe Biden was right. The world will test Obama early.

And once he is President he won't just be able to vote "present" anymore.

53 Fearless Fred  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:55:59pm

re: #19 Fearless Fred

... to such fault that I weird out and relate to this as uber anti-authoritarian

54 melinwy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:56:16pm

Night Lizards.
Happy New Year
Go IDF
Israel
the Free world.
the civilized people of the world!
for truly that is what Israel is fighting
for, not just themselves, but for people
who believe being human is being
civilized.....

55 WayDownSouthInBama  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:56:17pm

Do a newscast with a Throbbing Memo and they dock you!

56 Clemente  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:56:40pm

re: #7 LeePro

oops

"Misstate your post number, they dock you!"

/automatically deducted from your Zionist check ;)

57 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:56:48pm

re: #49 rawmuse

Yeah, gonna try one out if I can find one. I am doing some hand cutting woodwork, and none of my saws are right for the job.

They've gotten quite common nowadays -- Home Depot, Lowe's, and Sears all carry them now.

58 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:56:59pm

re: #48 SurferDoc

Remember Rex Trailer?

Yes. He was going to make an appearance at a shopping center, and my relatives took me. Then the crowd was too big and he canceled.

I still watched, but I don't go to stupid appearances like that any more.

59 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:57:09pm

I for one welcome our new Insect Overlords

60 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:57:12pm

re: #44 ciaospirit

Anybody celebrate New Year's Eve this way? Gee, we miss all the fun.

France's New Year's Tradition: Car-Burning

Asshats burn cars when they are already disadvantaged (as they claim repeatedly).

Youts Gone Feral! Now showing every night in Paris!

61 Ledger1  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:57:42pm

I am beginning to see a reason for the high number of burned cars in France. It is an insurance fraud where the owners could get a new car.

[New Years eve Car-B-Q]

There is an impression of "calm", since there was no major incident to report. But this is counterbalanced by a negative find: 1147 burnt-out cars, or 30% more than last year, even though the police were out in force (35,000 men deployed). Two hundred eighty persons were arrested...

Europe 1 suggests that some of the cars were burned by their owners:
Gérard Gachet cites possible "insurance fraud" to explain the higher figures on New Year's Eve. "When cars burn in places where everything is calm," one may wonder if "certain persons" did not want to take advantage of the "new indemnity regulations" that are part of the law on compensating victims." He added that "the experts would be able to say upon examining the cars." (...)

See: Brussels Journal

See: France Car-B-Q post

62 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:57:46pm

re: #52 Mich-again

Joe Biden was right. The world will test Obama early.

And once he is President he won't just be able to vote "present" anymore.

They're testing him already. He's voting "absent".

63 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:57:49pm

re: #51 JCM

U.S. Blocks U.N. Statement Calling for Gaza Cease-Fire


Way to go GWB, Condi and Zalmay!

Was just getting ready to post that myself. Great news.

64 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:57:56pm

re: #46 Desert Dog

Cool Hand Luke.....a classic!

"What we have here is a failure to communicate."

65 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:57:59pm

re: #47 WayDownSouthInBama

Working 4 to 5 12's a week! A WORK-OUT! But, at least I'm working,,,and thanks bee..

66 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:58:13pm

re: #58 Kosh's Shadow

Yes. He was going to make an appearance at a shopping center, and my relatives took me. Then the crowd was too big and he canceled.

I still watched, but I don't go to stupid appearances like that any more.

He had a great holster rig with a knife on one side. I wanted one like that.

67 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:58:51pm

re: #38 rawmuse

Does anyone here have experience using a Japanese style saw?
I am thinking of picking one up. I hear they are good for precise cuts.

If you have a steady hand they cut better than any push-style saw. What are you going to cut?

68 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:59:37pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

Youts Gone Feral! Now showing every night in Paris!

I hear these are all the "rage" in gay Paris these days.....oui, oui, mon amie, pass le chocolate

69 jorline  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 9:59:44pm

re: #46 Desert Dog

Cool Hand Luke.....a classic!

Great movie.

Youtube Video

70 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:00:52pm

re: #49 rawmuse


"Fine Wood Working" Mags have many good sites for these type of saws.

71 Emperor Norton  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:01:37pm

Has Car and Driver ever determined which cars burn the best? My guess would be Peugeots.

72 Floral Giraffe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:01:47pm

re: #38 rawmuse

I haven't used the saws, but the Japanese steel shears I have used are AWESOME. Made for Bonsai trimming. You might look for a good Japanese Nursery in your area.

73 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:02:28pm

re: #29 rawmuse

I liked the Klaus Kinski one. I think it was affection disguised as animosity.
But, I've been wrong a lot lately.

I don't know. I read it as really venomous. It rather upset me.

74 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:02:58pm

Hello Lizards! It's early Sunday in Near Iowa.

How are you-all?

75 solomonpanting  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:03:30pm

re: #38 rawmuse


You're not too far from this store.

They'll show you anything and everything you need to know.

76 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:03:39pm

re: #71 Emperor Norton

Has Car and Driver ever determined which cars burn the best? My guess would be Peugeots.

I vote for a Blazer or a Firebird

77 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:03:57pm

re: #73 Dianna
Happy New Year....:}

78 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:03:57pm

re: #61 Ledger1

I am beginning to see a reason for the high number of burned cars in France. It is an insurance fraud where the owners could get a new car.

[New Years eve Car-B-Q]

There is an impression of "calm", since there was no major incident to report. But this is counterbalanced by a negative find: 1147 burnt-out cars, or 30% more than last year, even though the police were out in force (35,000 men deployed). Two hundred eighty persons were arrested...

Europe 1 suggests that some of the cars were burned by their owners:
Gérard Gachet cites possible "insurance fraud" to explain the higher figures on New Year's Eve. "When cars burn in places where everything is calm," one may wonder if "certain persons" did not want to take advantage of the "new indemnity regulations" that are part of the law on compensating victims." He added that "the experts would be able to say upon examining the cars." (...)

See: Brussels Journal

See: France Car-B-Q post

Are you sure you want to source Brussels Journal? They have premium ads from Fiordman. I'm not sure they're really on our side.

79 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:04:15pm

re: #67 solomonpanting

If you have a steady hand they cut better than any push-style saw. What are you going to cut?

I am making a stamd for my upright bass. I have the plans all sketched out. I made an attempt today, but the wood is hard and my saws are not the best. I am working in my garage, where I have almost no power tools, nothing more than some drills and an orbital sander. If I had a table saw that would be perfect, one that does mitered cuts.

80 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:05:03pm

New Senator to be Michael Bennet of CO. (He's Denver's public schools superintendent.) Notice there is no mention of experience or actual qualifications for the Senate job. But who cares about that?

"This is a critical time in history. The economic challenges facing America and Colorado are unprecedented," Ritter said in a written statement. "Our challenges are so serious that it will take a new generation of leaders, a new way of thinking and a bold new approach to problem-solving to steer us through this."

Obama said in a statement that Bennet would be "a breath of fresh air in Washington."

"Michael Bennet perfectly reflects the qualities of the ruggedly independent state he has been chosen to serve," Obama said.

81 JCM  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:05:28pm

Check out the losers in Seattle!

82 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:05:40pm

re: #63 ciaospirit

Was just getting ready to post that myself. Great news.

from your link:
"From 2001 through May 2008, Hamas launched more than 3,000 Qassam rockets and 2,500 mortar attacks against Israeli targets."

Just some isolated guerillas. . . . .

83 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:06:09pm

re: #74 ggt
Thinking wine or oranges....what be your tell?

84 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:06:34pm

re: #75 solomonpanting

Nice stuff! Bookmarked.

85 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:06:36pm

re: #81 JCM

Check out the losers in Seattle!

You should turn on the Starbucks Expresso hose on them and wash them away

86 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:06:58pm

re: #77 nightwatch

Happy New Year....:}

And to you!

87 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:07:37pm

re: #80 ciaospirit

New Senator to be Michael Bennet of CO. (He's Denver's public schools superintendent.) Notice there is no mention of experience or actual qualifications for the Senate job. But who cares about that?

Just what we need, education majors in government. Peter Principle anyone?

88 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:08:28pm

re: #87 ggt

The CIC?

89 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:08:35pm

re: #83 nightwatch

Thinking wine or oranges....what be your tell?

My tell?

William and I get to shoot the cannon.

90 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:09:01pm

So, am I totally off base thinking this is like a new chess game starting?

Israel moves into Gaza and then soon into Lebanon, while Iran counters with Hamas and then Hezbollah, and possibly Syria as its pawns and knights and bishops.

91 Palandine  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:09:26pm

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I've got 5 bosses, Bob.

(Samir, talking to Michael Bolton)
"So, why don't you just go by 'Mike"?"
"Why should I change MY name? He's the one who sucks!"

/damn it feels good to be a gangster

92 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:09:33pm

re: #80 ciaospirit

Will someone please inform these people that Marxism is not a fresh, new idea?

93 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:09:54pm

re: #88 nightwatch

The CIC?

yep. I think those education majors are going to figure out real quit that the addage "Those who can't do . . ." might just fit them.

94 EmmmieG  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:10:10pm

re: #80 ciaospirit

Going once, going twice, sold to the buyer from Colorado!

95 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:10:28pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

Youts Gone Feral! Now showing every night in Paris!

And they probably speak two languages. Which is Obama's yardstick of smarts.

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:10:28pm

re: #87 ggt

Just what we need, education majors in government. Peter Principle anyone?

Actually, I think he's a lawyer by training. Earlier, I was reading the article and thinking "Great, people who've never taught controlling education..."

97 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:10:43pm

re: #90 Shay4l

So, am I totally off base thinking this is like a new chess game starting?

Israel moves into Gaza and then soon into Lebanon, while Iran counters with Hamas and then Hezbollah, and possibly Syria as its pawns and knights and bishops.

hubby kept saying that Israel was going to do something before GWB left office. guess he was right.

98 JCM  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:10:54pm

re: #92 rawmuse

Will someone please inform these people that Marxism is not a fresh, new idea?

It's never been done quite right... just a few more eggs and they'll get it right.

99 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:11:14pm

re: #89 ggt
I will fill the 50 gallon drum with body forming sand in prep for your shot!...:}....Question? Should I wear the HAT!?

100 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:11:18pm

re: #51 JCM Hey JCM! Thank you for that! And I loved this excerpt from your link:

The Bush administration on Saturday blamed the more than week-old onslaught in Gaza squarely on Hamas militants.

A State Department official said the U.S. is working toward a cease-fire but provided no details on how this can be accomplished because the U.S. does not talk to Hamas. Spokesman Sean McCormack said a cease-fire is needed that will not allow Hamas to continue firing rockets into Israel. McCormack said "it's obvious the cease-fire should take place as soon as possible," but it has to be sustainable and cannot allow Hamas to continue to launch rockets out of Gaza.

101 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:11:41pm

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

Actually, I think he's a lawyer by training. Earlier, I was reading the article and thinking "Great, people who've never taught controlling education..."

You are right. I don't mean to diss actual teachers. It's the over-edumacated administrators that I can't stand.

102 marinegrunt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:11:42pm

Too funny to let it slip by.
paste on your browser window

codepinkforpeaceDOTCOM

103 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:11:54pm

re: #98 JCM

It's never been done quite right... just a few more eggs and they'll get it right.

I agree...another 70-80 million people slaughtered in the name of egalitarianism should do the trick....

104 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:12:05pm

re: #92 rawmuse

Will someone please inform these people that Marxism is not a fresh, new idea?

You can keep your Marxist ways, for it's only just a phase.
It's money, money, money that makes the world go round.
-- Monty Python, the Money Programme

105 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:12:23pm

re: #81 JCM

Check out the losers in Seattle!

I wonder if those two would think differently if they lived in Sderot.

106 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:12:25pm

re: #98 JCM

It's never been done quite right... just a few more eggs and they'll get it right.

needs garlic.

:0

107 Ledger1  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:12:28pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

I was trying to determine the possible cause for the high number of burned cars in France - and the relative lack of out rage. That article was just picked at random. Insurance fraud sounds likely.

In the USA if you are caught in insurance fraud it is serious matter. But, that may not be the case in France where practically everything is socialized.

108 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:12:37pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Are you sure you want to source Brussels Journal? They have premium ads from Fiordman. I'm not sure they're really on our side.

People refer to Huffpo, Kos and DU in here frequently. The source is not endorsed but the possible story needs to be noted and further investigated. The motives of the referrer may be suspect but that is the problem with crime. People you like don't know about it.

109 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:12:39pm

re: #98 JCM

It's never been done quite right... just a few more eggs and they'll get it right.

I think that's the principle behind the Avakian people.

I just keep quoting what I said when I quit a job working for rather a famous left-winger: "It's a great world he envisions. I would like to live there. But if Lenin couldn't get us there, I don't think Rabbi X can either."

110 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:12:40pm

re: #98 JCM

I saw a picture of my neighborhood from the 1970s. All the houses had iron bars on the windows. Today there are none. I wonder if the iron bars will be coming back soon. Crime is sharply up here.

111 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:13:01pm

re: #99 nightwatch

I will fill the 50 gallon drum with body forming sand in prep for your shot!...:}....Question? Should I wear the HAT!?

yellow and HARD

112 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:13:24pm

re: #102 marinegrunt


If you be... then thank you for your service....Semp-Fi

113 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:13:31pm

re: #90 Shay4l

So, am I totally off base thinking this is like a new chess game starting?

Israel moves into Gaza and then soon into Lebanon, while Iran counters with Hamas and then Hezbollah, and possibly Syria as its pawns and knights and bishops.

Hamas is dead proxy army walking. If Hexbollah pulls anything, the counterstrike is in Damascus.

Iran doesn't want any part of an actual war. All they know is terrorism. When the Mullahs are the ones getting terrorized, they got nothing,

114 EmmmieG  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:13:45pm

re: #98 JCM

It's never been done quite right... just a few more eggs and they'll get it right.

Sure, fine, but they get to be the egg this time. Oh, wait it's always somebody else who gets to be the egg? Some...unimportant, nameless person. Someobdy without a brilliant education and exciting new ideas.

Of course, being totally serious here, the egg was a somebody to their family, and meant something to at least one person.

115 JCM  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:14:07pm

re: #100 realwest

Hey JCM! Thank you for that! And I loved this excerpt from your link:

Thank G-d GWD and State are getting it right!

116 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:14:12pm

re: #102 marinegrunt

Too funny to let it slip by.
paste on your browser window

codepinkforpeaceDOTCOM

How did that happen?

117 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:14:17pm

re: #105 MandyManners

I wonder if those two would think differently if they lived in Sderot.


Yes.

118 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:14:37pm

re: #107 Ledger1

I was trying to determine the possible cause for the high number of burned cars in France - and the relative lack of out rage. That article was just picked at random. Insurance fraud sounds likely.

In the USA if you are caught in insurance fraud it is serious matter. But, that may not be the case in France where practically everything is socialized.

It'd be a nice scam --behind on your payments, want a new car, hire a arab-looking yout to burn your car. Nice racket actually, how much of a cut do you think the yout and his pimp would get?

119 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:14:49pm

re: #111 ggt


Then the 80 gallon drum it is!

120 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:14:49pm

re: #69 jorline
Hey jorline! How are you doing tonight my friend?

121 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:15:10pm

re: #108 lifeofthemind

People refer to Huffpo, Kos and DU in here frequently. The source is not endorsed but the possible story needs to be noted and further investigated. The motives of the referrer may be suspect but that is the problem with crime. People you like don't know about it.

Good point.

122 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:15:11pm

re: #110 rawmuse

I saw a picture of my neighborhood from the 1970s. All the houses had iron bars on the windows. Today there are none. I wonder if the iron bars will be coming back soon. Crime is sharply up here.

I live on the 5th floor, by the time the little sod shinny's up the rain pipe, I'm ready...:)

123 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:15:13pm

re: #101 ggt

You are right. I don't mean to diss actual teachers. It's the over-edumacated administrators that I can't stand.

A Teacher teaches but desk jockeys gets to call themselves "Educators."

124 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:15:51pm

re: #103 Desert Dog

I agree...another 70-80 million people slaughtered in the name of egalitarianism should do the trick....

And it is good for the carbon footprint!

125 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:16:20pm

re: #120 realwest

RW, how ya' doin'?

126 jorline  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:16:52pm

Hamas told the Palestinian people of Gaza that they would bring Hope and Change...holy crap!

127 EmmmieG  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:17:01pm

re: #124 lifeofthemind

Mmmm. Marxism. So good for the environment.

Always loved this site:

[Link: www.kiddofspeed.com...]

128 Desert Dog  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:17:02pm

Good night all...the lovely Mrs. Desert Dog is flashing the lights, time for bed.....

129 EmmmieG  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:17:21pm

I have lost the ability to type or spell.

Bedtime!

130 nightwatch  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:17:24pm

Night to ya lizards...:}

131 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:17:30pm

From the previous thread.

RESIDENTS of a model housing estate bankrolled by Hollywood celebrities and hand-built by Jimmy Carter, the former US president, are complaining that it is falling apart.

Fairway Oaks was built on northern Florida wasteland by 10,000 volunteers, including Carter, in a record 17-day “blitz” organised by the charity Habitat for Humanity.

Eight years later it is better known for cockroaches, mildew and mysterious skin rashes.

A forthcoming legal battle over Fairway Oaks threatens the reputation of a charity envied for the calibre of its celebrity supporters, who range from Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt to Colin Firth, Christian Bale and Helena Bonham Carter.

The case could challenge the bedrock philosophy behind Habitat for Humanity, claiming that using volunteers, rather than professional builders, is causing as many problems as it solves.

SNIP

132 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:17:49pm

re: #110 rawmuse

I saw a picture of my neighborhood from the 1970s. All the houses had iron bars on the windows. Today there are none. I wonder if the iron bars will be coming back soon. Crime is sharply up here.

Do you live in the City proper?

133 jorline  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:18:01pm

re: #120 realwest

Hey jorline! How are you doing tonight my friend?

Good to see you, RW. Waiting for the Ambian to kick in...shouldn't take long.

134 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:18:21pm

re: #74 ggt Hey ggt! It's a little past 1:15 AM Sunday in N.C. - how the heck are ya doing?!

135 JCM  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:18:37pm

re: #114 EmmmieG

Sure, fine, but they get to be the egg this time. Oh, wait it's always somebody else who gets to be the egg? Some...unimportant, nameless person. Someobdy without a brilliant education and exciting new ideas.

Of course, being totally serious here, the egg was a somebody to their family, and meant something to at least one person.

I had a chance to meet an "egg" when I was about 11. A Jewish women, who survived both the Nazi camps and the Gulags. My feelings about such things were set early.

136 marinegrunt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:18:51pm

re: #116 MandyManners

Scuttlebutt has it that former Marine Bob Parsons, CEO of Godaddy dot com, is behind this.

137 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:19:16pm

re: #131 MandyManners

From the previous thread.

RESIDENTS of a model housing estate bankrolled by Hollywood celebrities and hand-built by Jimmy Carter, the former US president, are complaining that it is falling apart.

SNIP

Oh, that is really too bad. I hate to give the unions any ammunition. After Hurricane Andrew, I thought the building codes got real stringent and the insurance companies made sure they were enforced?

138 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:19:33pm

re: #76 Desert Dog
Ya sure Ford Pintos don't burn better - or at least quicker?!
:)

139 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:19:33pm

re: #132 stevieray

Do you live in the City proper?

yes, but not really downtown.

140 Homer_s  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:19:51pm

re: #79 rawmuse

I am making a stamd for my upright bass. I have the plans all sketched out. I made an attempt today, but the wood is hard and my saws are not the best. I am working in my garage, where I have almost no power tools, nothing more than some drills and an orbital sander. If I had a table saw that would be perfect, one that does mitered cuts.

Check with your local taxidermist. Maybe he can turn one of the plaques sideways for you. Is it a largemouth or small mouth?

141 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:19:54pm

re: #134 realwest

Hey ggt! It's a little past 1:15 AM Sunday in N.C. - how the heck are ya doing?!

tired. Thanks for asking.

the dryer just finished, so, I won't be here long.

142 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:21:16pm

re: #136 marinegrunt

Scuttlebutt has it that former Marine Bob Parsons, CEO of Godaddy dot com, is behind this.

It's very funny.

143 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:21:16pm

re: #127 EmmmieG

Mmmm. Marxism. So good for the environment.

Always loved this site:

[Link: www.kiddofspeed.com...]

Awesome, when Chernobyl was happening I was doing my ACDUTRA at the OPNAVINTELCEN and reading the TS reports in live time. Brave men went in to drop sand on the fire, if it had eaten through to the river ....... don't ask.

144 JCM  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:21:21pm

Twins Born On Different Days, Years
1 Twin Born On News Years Eve, Other On New Years Day

145 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:21:22pm

re: #129 EmmmieG

I have lost the ability to type or spell.

Bedtime!

I can't lose what I never had !

146 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:21:50pm

re: #80 ciaospirit
Hey ciaspirit! Didn't go to the link but given that Obama said ""Michael Bennet perfectly reflects the qualities of the ruggedly independent state he has been chosen to serve," I'm guessing that he's a Dem and crooked as hell!
What do I win?!

147 Clemente  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:22:03pm

re: #105 MandyManners

I wonder if those two would think differently if they lived in Sderot.

/or not.

148 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:22:04pm

re: #140 Homer_s

LOL!

149 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:22:07pm

You know, I don't trust computers. I'm still toying with Spider Solitaire --4 suit. I made a move earlier and the computer popped-up a message that said I had no more moves left--when I knew I did. I told the computer to get f@cked and went on to win the game.

WTF?

150 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:22:25pm

re: #138 realwest

Ya sure Ford Pintos don't burn better - or at least quicker?!
:)

Ford Pinto Exploding / catching fire

Youtube Video

151 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:22:48pm

re: #129 EmmmieG

I have lost the ability to type or spell.

Bedtime!

So like You Know you are qualified for well like you know the Senate?

152 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:23:00pm

re: #87 ggt

Just what we need, education majors in government. Peter Principle anyone?

Can we have some people who know something about economics and finance since Congress' primary job is spending our money? Here we have another guy who's being promoted on his public school experience, which means he has experience in monopoly money finance.

153 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:23:44pm

In the immortal words of Sherlock Holmes..

Data, data..! I cannot make bricks without clay.

Out!

154 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:23:45pm

re: #137 ggt

Oh, that is really too bad. I hate to give the unions any ammunition. After Hurricane Andrew, I thought the building codes got real stringent and the insurance companies made sure they were enforced?

I don't know if there's any allegation that they're not up to code. Mysterious skin rashes, garbage under the floors, mold and the like.

155 Ledger1  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:23:46pm

re: #118 ggt

It'd be a nice scam --behind on your payments, want a new car, hire a arab-looking yout to burn your car. Nice racket actually, how much of a cut do you think the yout and his pimp would get? –ggt

Yes, I agree.

I would guess the arsonist would probably be in a gang and get some compensation – any amount would be good around the end of the year.

156 Shay4l  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:23:46pm

Those Hamas pukes will end up regretting shooting the kneecaps of Fatah supporters, back when Israel decided to attack.

When the West bank PA terrorists get revenge on the Gaza terrorists, they won't get any hearing from the EU or the UN.

157 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:23:53pm

re: #146 realwest

Hey ciaspirit! Didn't go to the link but given that Obama said ""Michael Bennet perfectly reflects the qualities of the ruggedly independent state he has been chosen to serve," I'm guessing that he's a Dem and crooked as hell!
What do I win?!

A ham and...

158 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:24:11pm

re: #142 MandyManners

It's very funny.

G-d, I LOVE the Marines!

159 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:24:11pm

re: #135 JCM

I had a chance to meet an "egg" when I was about 11. A Jewish women, who survived both the Nazi camps and the Gulags. My feelings about such things were set early.

Me too. My next-door neighbors growing up were Jewish. They had an uncle who came to live with them in his waning years, and he had the tattoo on his arm. I must've been eight when they told me why he had it.

160 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:24:51pm

Tomorrow, Lizards!

161 jorline  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:25:07pm

re: #137 ggt

Oh, that is really too bad. I hate to give the unions any ammunition. After Hurricane Andrew, I thought the building codes got real stringent and the insurance companies made sure they were enforced?

Everything Jimmy has ever tried to build has fallen down...he wouldn't know what a foundation looked like if it grew in his peanut fields.

162 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:25:24pm

re: #152 ciaospirit

Can we have some people who know something about economics and finance since Congress' primary job is spending our money? Here we have another guy who's being promoted on his public school experience, which means he has experience in monopoly money finance.

yep . . .

But, you know, the primary purpose of gubernet is to make sure everyone is fed, clothed, housed and has the medical care you need --Where have you been?

//gah

163 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:26:13pm

re: #115 JCM
Better yet, THANK G-D THAT GWB ....
Sorry, still pissed off at someone who corrected a typo of mine on the prio thread.
Course, given the number of typos I'm prone to make, I reckon I should learn to just let it go!

164 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:26:30pm

re: #154 MandyManners

I don't know if there's any allegation that they're not up to code. Mysterious skin rashes, garbage under the floors, mold and the like.

yeah, but if it's built to code, mold shouldn't be a problem. Even in Florida.

Insurance doesn't cover mold so these people are f@cked.

165 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:26:43pm

re: #139 rawmuse

yes, but not really downtown.

I used to live there... first in the Haight, then Lower Nob Hill [ok... upper tenderloin], and finally SOMA.

Beautiful city, great people... but politically nuts.

166 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:27:33pm

re: #125 ggt
Doing OK, thanks - got my second wind, a cup of java and I'm good to go all night long! LOL!
How are you doing?

167 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:27:35pm

re: #146 realwest

Hey ciaspirit! Didn't go to the link but given that Obama said ""Michael Bennet perfectly reflects the qualities of the ruggedly independent state he has been chosen to serve," I'm guessing that he's a Dem and crooked as hell!
What do I win?!

One "get out of jail free" card. Might come in handy in Obama's Monopoly in America game.

168 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:28:39pm

re: #133 jorline
Hey, has it really helped you out? I'd hate to have steered a friend wrong on it.

169 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:28:44pm

re: #166 realwest

Doing OK, thanks - got my second wind, a cup of java and I'm good to go all night long! LOL!
How are you doing?

tired and going to bed soon. Thanks for askin'!

It's rather late for you to be drinking fresh coffee, isn't it RW?

170 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:29:01pm

re: #159 stevieray

Me too. My next-door neighbors growing up were Jewish. They had an uncle who came to live with them in his waning years, and he had the tattoo on his arm. I must've been eight when they told me why he had it.

I was eating at a cafeteria at USC and spotted a man at the next table with one of the tattoos. He caught me looking at it and when I met his eyes I smiled, not knowing what to say. He just smiled back and went on eating.

171 JCM  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:29:32pm

re: #163 realwest

Better yet, THANK G-D THAT GWB ....
Sorry, still pissed off at someone who corrected a typo of mine on the prio thread.
Course, given the number of typos I'm prone to make, I reckon I should learn to just let it go!

LOL! Thanks!
Only goddess has permission to correct our typos!

172 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:29:42pm

re: #165 stevieray

I know almost all the things that are to be known about this place. Especially since I started following zombie's posts.

173 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:29:59pm

ahahahahah, the cat is laying next to one of the dogs "kneading" his rump. Dog is either sound asleep or pretending to be sound asleep. Should be fun to watch in a few moments.

174 WayDownSouthInBama  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:30:18pm

re: #164 ggt

So how is this turning out different than any other housing ideas that liberals come up with?

175 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:30:18pm

BTW, cat has back claws. --hahahahaha

176 Macker  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:30:30pm

re: #131 MandyManners

Here Mandy, let's fix this:

RESIDENTS of a model housing estate bankrolled by Hollywood celebrities and hand-built by Jimmy Carter, the former US president, are complaining that it is falling apart.

Fairway Oaks was built on northern Florida wasteland by 10,000 volunteers, including Carter, in a record 17-day “blitz” organised by the charity Habitat for Humanity Hamas.

Eight years later it is better known for cockroaches, mildew and mysterious skin rashes.

A forthcoming legal battle over Fairway Oaks threatens the reputation of a charity envied for the calibre of its celebrity supporters, who range from Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt to Colin Firth, Christian Bale and Helena Bonham Carter.

The case could challenge the bedrock philosophy behind Habitat for Humanity Hamas, claiming that using volunteers, rather than professional builders, is causing as many problems as it solves.

There, see!

177 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:30:52pm

re: #170 SurferDoc

I was eating at a cafeteria at USC and spotted a man at the next table with one of the tattoos. He caught me looking at it and when I met his eyes I smiled, not knowing what to say. He just smiled back and went on eating.

Kinda takes it out of the cold pages of a history book when you see it in the flesh.

178 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:31:10pm

re: #174 WayDownSouthInBama

So how is this turning out different than any other housing ideas that liberals come up with?

It's not --only this one didn't cost the taxpayers --IIRC, it was build with private funds, albiet not-for-profit.

179 JCM  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:31:12pm

re: #171 JCM

LOL! Thanks!
Only goddess has permission to correct our typos!

PIFW!

180 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:31:14pm

Given the crises we face right now, I wish I could go back to better time, but I know I can't.

Still...

Youtube Video

181 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:32:09pm

re: #177 stevieray

Kinda takes it out of the cold pages of a history book when you see it in the flesh.

Yep. Puts shivers down the spine.

182 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:32:18pm

re: #170 SurferDoc

I was eating at a cafeteria at USC and spotted a man at the next table with one of the tattoos. He caught me looking at it and when I met his eyes I smiled, not knowing what to say. He just smiled back and went on eating.

They were common when I was growing up. Particularly remember one friend whose parents had the numbers and who also had the distinction of having gotten out of Hungary in 1956 by running across a bridge with the Red Army hot on their heels guns blazing. They liked America.

183 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:32:20pm

GGGAAAHHHHHH ,,,, , I just got off of a call with a client in Japan. They screwed up taping the Falcons/ Cardinals game. Now I have to replay the ENTIRE F**KING thing for them !

GGGGAAHHHHHH!

184 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:32:41pm

re: #150 Dustyvet
Whoa - five seconds from impact! Impressive! Thanks Dusty!
Oh, btw,you've got mail!

185 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:32:54pm

re: #172 rawmuse

I know almost all the things that are to be known about this place. Especially since I started following zombie's posts.

Cryptic, and a little bit frightening! A good combination!

186 ggt  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:33:40pm

I gotta sleep Lizards, full day tomorrow.

weet dreams all!

187 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:33:41pm

re: #174 WayDownSouthInBama

So how is this turning out different than any other housing ideas that liberals come up with?

More private charity and amateur effort, less government money and skilled but expensive labor.

188 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:33:54pm

re: #177 stevieray

Kinda takes it out of the cold pages of a history book when you see it in the flesh.

My lack of words at that moment made me realize later that I could not even approach knowing what he had been through even though I'd read all the books about when I was younger.

189 WayDownSouthInBama  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:33:58pm

re: #178 ggt

It will cost us soon. Nothing liberals do is without hidden cost to the taxpayers even when they start it out with private funds.

190 jorline  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:35:01pm

good night, Lizards.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

191 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:35:44pm

re: #183 sattv4u2

GGGAAAHHHHHH ,,,, , I just got off of a call with a client in Japan. They screwed up taping the Falcons/ Cardinals game. Now I have to replay the ENTIRE F**KING thing for them !

GGGGAAHHHHHH!

Just be glad it wasn't the Colts/Chargers game. Overtime.

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:36:13pm

OK, I have to go and do something constructive now. Not for Habitat, although I have done that, and the Lord help those poor people whose drywall I installed.

Good night, good night...

193 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:38:04pm

re: #167 ciaospirit

One "get out of jail free" card. Might come in handy in Obama's Monopoly in America game.


Damn straight about that one. Thanks for that ciaospirit!

194 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:38:13pm

re: #191 ciaospirit

Just be glad it wasn't the Colts/Chargers game. Overtime.

sssshhhhhhh ,,, they'll prolly realize they messed up that one too!

195 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:38:34pm

re: #188 SurferDoc

My lack of words at that moment made me realize later that I could not even approach knowing what he had been through even though I'd read all the books about when I was younger.

Six million is too much to comprehend completely, it sometimes becomes a statistic. One person in front of you is inescapable reality.

196 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:39:21pm

re: #169 ggt
Uh, fresh? Who said anything about "fresh"?!

197 JCM  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:40:05pm

re: #195 stevieray

Six million is too much to comprehend completely, it sometimes becomes a statistic. One person in front of you is inescapable reality.

Absolutely. That one woman was the reality to me of both the Nazi Camps and the Gulags. Much more so because of her lack of bitterness.

198 patchrat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:40:07pm

re: #176 Macker

Here Mandy, let's fix this:I am a real carpenter, who builds real houses. (preferably not on swamp land). Do I believe that I could have done Jimmy Carter's job better than he did?
Oh wait.... BAD EXAMPLE!


There, see!

199 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:40:30pm

re: #195 stevieray

Six million is too much to comprehend completely, it sometimes becomes a statistic. One person in front of you is inescapable reality.

Exactly.

200 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:41:00pm

The Chargers are like a Cinderella story, but I just can't see them getting any further in the playoffs.

201 JCM  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:41:32pm

Goodnight all.

God Bless Israel, and God speed to the IDF!

202 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:42:09pm

re: #201 JCM

Goodnight all.

God Bless Israel, and God speed to the IDF!

Ditto. And Ditto.

203 WayDownSouthInBama  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:42:22pm

Good night my friends. I leave you with the story of the hunting skills of Jimmy "killer rabbit" Carter.:

[Link: www.narsil.org...]

But he had sharp teeth!

204 Truck Monkey  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:42:42pm

re: #188 SurferDoc

My lack of words at that moment made me realize later that I could not even approach knowing what he had been through even though I'd read all the books about when I was younger.

I was the very fortunate son in law of a survivor. I feel blessed that I was able to absorb his wit and wisdom for 25 years until his passing a couple of months ago. I have never met a kinder more gentle man in my life and I am so sad that he is no longer here with us.

205 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:44:07pm

re: #28 NY Nana

re: #4 LeePro
Second! Fouth!

;)
*Cough* *Cough*

Second! Fouth!
PRESENT!

As you can see... walked in, fell into a de-e-e-e-e-e-e-ep hole. Just now climbed out.

Hello, everybody!

206 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:45:17pm

re: #170 SurferDoc

I was eating at a cafeteria at USC and spotted a man at the next table with one of the tattoos. He caught me looking at it and when I met his eyes I smiled, not knowing what to say. He just smiled back and went on eating.

Was talking to my mother the other day, about new Tom Cruise movie and all. She mentioned that there was a woman in her book club forty years ago, who was a survivor from Schindler's list, as was her husband. How 'bout that?

207 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:45:24pm

re: #177 stevieray

Kinda takes it out of the cold pages of a history book when you see it in the flesh.

Oh yes it does. Most recent former wife had an uncle and an aunt who were in one of the death camps but survived. When I met them it was summer-short sleeve weather and I just impulsively hugged 'em.
Two years or so later we went to the National Holocaust Museum in D.C. and they had a place on the top floor where you could sit in a sound proof cubbie and listen to tapes of survivors telling their personal stories and I HEARD - in great detail - all of the awful things they'd gone through, seen and done cause both of my former wife's Uncle and Aunt had made separate recordings.
We left the museum in silence and I don't think we said ANYTHING for over an hour or two.

208 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:45:34pm

re: #56 Clemente

"Misstate your post number, they dock you!"

/automatically deducted from your Zionist check ;)

Ack! No-o-o-o-o!
Someone tricked me!

209 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:49:11pm

re: #182 lifeofthemind
Gees,

They were common when I was growing up. Particularly remember one friend whose parents had the numbers and who also had the distinction of having gotten out of Hungary in 1956 by running across a bridge with the Red Army hot on their heels guns blazing. They liked America.

Just unbeleivable bravery they showed. And I'll bet the LOVED America. At least as much as we do and maybe more.

210 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:50:08pm

re: #186 ggt
Good night ggt - weet dreams to you!

211 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:51:13pm

re: #102 marinegrunt

Too funny to let it slip by.
paste on your browser window

codepinkforpeaceDOTCOM

That is HILARIOUS ! ! !

212 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:51:42pm

re: #190 jorline
Goodnight my friend - reckon those Ambien work as described! Sleep well.

213 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:51:52pm

re: #207 realwest

I didn't know they had recordings there. Its a good idea, hearing it in the voices of the survivors will help keep it real for future generations.

214 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:52:09pm

re: #209 realwest

Gees,

Just unbeleivable bravery they showed. And I'll bet the LOVED America. At least as much as we do and maybe more.

I was young, they fed me tasty and unusual food, they loved America.

215 Truck Monkey  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:53:53pm

re: #213 stevieray

I didn't know they had recordings there. Its a good idea, hearing it in the voices of the survivors will help keep it real for future generations.

Voices of Auschwitz. My Father in Law is one of those voices.

216 NY Nana  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:54:50pm

re: #205 LeePro


As you can see... walked in, fell into a de-e-e-e-e-e-e-ep hole. Just now climbed out.

Hello, everybody!

Hi, Lee!

/Excuses, excuses!

Seriously, that should be the worst thing you ever do...and it was funny! Not a lot of laughs today. The war in Gaza is getting to me. One tiny Israel, the Jewish homeland, and the number of anti-Israel demonstrations world-wide? They just do not get it.

Being on LGF, and seeing how much support that Charles gives Israel, and how much all the lizards care? Can't say 'thank you' enough.

It seems that a lot of people, who do not post here, and would be banned by Charles after only a few posts, just don't get it, and have
'forgotten' exactly who caused 9/11.

I just came over to say g'nite, all. Sweet dreams! And may we wake up to better news in the morning.

217 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:54:51pm

re: #215 Truck Monkey

Voices of Auschwitz. My Father in Law is one of those voices.

You made his little girl happy, you made him happy, you did a blessed deed.

218 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:55:08pm

Good night, All.

Go, Israel!

219 Floral Giraffe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:55:27pm

The first time I saw the tattos on concentration camp numbers, I didn't know what they were. Some Americans are just clueless. I have learned better, now. But, I still would not know what to say.

220 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:58:08pm

My neighbors across the street from me when I was a kid were all survivors of the camps and had the numbers on their arms. Since it was the South, and we wore short sleeved shirts, it was no mystery how they got there.

221 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:58:30pm

re: #219 Floral Giraffe

The first time I saw the tattos on concentration camp numbers, I didn't know what they were. Some Americans are just clueless. I have learned better, now. But, I still would not know what to say.

Give it another 10 years or so and there will be almost no one to bare witness. The deniers are already unchained. Here in NY we have two Jewish Museums, the main one uptown and a new one in Battery Park that is a Living Memorial to the Holocaust but today the streets were owned by over 3,000 screaming Palestinian anti-Semites.

222 Macker  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 10:59:50pm

re: #221 lifeofthemind

"All of this has happened before,
And all of this will happen again..."

223 rawmuse  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:00:42pm

Later, lizards!

224 swamprat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:01:10pm

re: #195 stevieray

6 million is only half right.
6 million jews.
6 million "others".
12 million.

225 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:01:30pm

re: #213 stevieray
Well wife and I were "Charter Members" (means we gave a sizeable amount of dough to get the museum started) and so we got newsletters from the museum and when they mentioned that they had added that feature - an "oral history of the Holocaust from Survivors" we were down there the next weekend to hear it.
Hearing those who went through that is truly invaluable historically - and to my then wife and myself, personally.
But man, I was listening to the stories of two people I knew and had visited and broken bread with on several occasions. The Aunt once told my wife (I found out after the Aunt passed away) that I would have been a "Righteous Gentile" had I lived in those times and in those places.
Really broke me and the wife up when she told me that.

226 Truck Monkey  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:01:45pm

re: #217 lifeofthemind

You made his little girl happy, you made him happy, you did a blessed deed.

Getting his "take" on what was going on in the world was priceless. He lived through absolute hell for 5 years. Had a necklace with a medallion on it with a star of david done in barbed wire and a quote of his surrounding it. "I remember when death was a luxury". I always tried to imagine the conditions he must have lived through.

227 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:01:49pm

Powerline seems to be taking a solid interest in the Gaza actions. Under "Internecine Warfare" they quote a jpost article:

The Hamas official said that his security forces had launched a massive "preemptive" campaign aimed at thwarting Fatah's attempts to "spread anarchy and chaos." He confirmed that many Fatah operatives had been shot in the legs over the past few days by Hamas "to make sure that they don't help Israel."

228 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:02:46pm

re: #171 JCM

LOL! Thanks!
Only goddess has permission to correct our typos!

...and me, and debutaunt, and Miss Trixie!
;D

229 Floral Giraffe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:04:44pm

re: #221 lifeofthemind

Good reminder, I need to make sure my nieces & nephew understand how real this is. I have only seeen 4 camp number tatoos in my lifetime. LA has a holocast museum, I need to go give thanks!

230 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:06:19pm

re: #228 LeePro

...and me, and debutaunt, and Miss Trixie!
;D

I learned to type in the Army, 1 manual Typewriter, a ream of paper, and a two and half ton truck, full of carbon paper....

231 teleskiguy  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:06:41pm

check out the track "Socialized Death Sentence" by Dystopia!

232 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:07:09pm

re: #227 itellu3times

Powerline seems to be taking a solid interest in the Gaza actions. Under "Internecine Warfare" they quote a jpost article:

Lovely people. Let's give them a state!

/

233 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:09:38pm

re: #225 realwest

To bring this full circle. Each individual chooses good or evil for themselves. We can witness and we can learn or reject what we see, for good or evil. The Palestinians have lived next to the people of Israel, they have observed and they have chosen. Who are we to deny that act? To me this makes their crimes all the more serious, they are not in some isolated jungle where they could not hear about the wider world. Their ignorance and bigotry is the result of hard work.

234 wiffersnapper  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:10:50pm

Beat hamas and they dock ya!

235 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:10:50pm

re: #233 lifeofthemind

To bring this full circle. Each individual chooses good or evil for themselves. We can witness and we can learn or reject what we see, for good or evil. The Palestinians have lived next to the people of Israel, they have observed and they have chosen. Who are we to deny that act? To me this makes their crimes all the more serious, they are not in some isolated jungle where they could not hear about the wider world. Their ignorance and bigotry is the result of hard work.

May I quibble? There are no "crimes" in this environment, crime is a violation of shared norms. The problem here is there are no shared norms. This is conflict, not crime.

236 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:13:14pm

re: #229 Floral Giraffe

Good reminder, I need to make sure my nieces & nephew understand how real this is. I have only seeen 4 camp number tatoos in my lifetime. LA has a holocast museum, I need to go give thanks!

All charitable institutions are in serious trouble due to the economy imploding. People can not afford to donate or be members and government aid is gone. In addition many worthy charities were bankrupted by Madoff. I know that Elie Weisel was wiped clean and Yeshiva University was hurt, others also.

237 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:13:25pm

re: #216 NY Nana

Hope I've caught you still here!

Do not let this righteous battle get you down. Israel is a mighty little giant. I do not believe she will be defeated!

Remember David!

Now, good night, and sleep restfully!

238 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:14:48pm

re: #229 Floral Giraffe
I certainly hope you do go and take them with you.
I haven't been to any Holocaust Museums except for the ones in Washington D.C. and NYC but the effect was the same (though the D.C. was the one with the most exhibits - including the aformentioned oral history tapes AND one of the "cattle cars" that was actually used. Most folks went on a pathway around it, but I just HAD to walk through it and I don't know how to say this very well, but while I was in that cattle car and looking around, surprised at how small it was, I got the most incredible feeling of COLDNESS. Don't know what LA has, but please, please do take them with you.
We cannot allow younger generations to forget this.

239 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:18:31pm

re: #230 Dustyvet

I learned to type in the Army, 1 manual Typewriter, a ream of paper, and a two and half ton truck, full of carbon paper....

Heh.
Carbon-smudged memories of my own.

Not Army, just old.

/1942

240 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:18:34pm

re: #235 itellu3times

May I quibble? There are no "crimes" in this environment, crime is a violation of shared norms. The problem here is there are no shared norms. This is conflict, not crime.

I disagree, in fact I emphatically disagree. That is importing a legal insanity plea into this discussion where it does not belong. We choose our moral compass and we act. They choose to deny the humanity of others and then justify violence, we must act according to standards, the best we can and we either judge them by the most sensitive and just standards we have, that we demonstrate to them or we declare them incapable of observing and learning. If you believe that then you are saying they can not be conversed with only destroyed. The choice in how they act is theirs ad so are the consequences. It is called Free Will and I do not deny it.

241 Cygnus  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:19:04pm

re: #10 EmmmieG

Yeah, my computer was making hacking noises. It does that when the threads get over a thousand.

Sounds like it has a nasty virus...

242 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:19:54pm

re: #235 itellu3times
With all due respect, the "Palestinian" people overwhelmingly elected Hamas to power, while Hamas Charter had, as it still does, passages calling for the death of Israel and the death of all Israelis.
This is a mindset. Kill them BECAUSE they are Jews.
And that is a crime against humanity, not just a conflict.

243 Floral Giraffe  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:20:08pm

re: #238 realwest

I think, even scarier that having generations forget this, is having generations that do not KNOW that this happened. It's true, it's real, people lived through this! Forgetting implies that you knew about it in the first place. I certainly did not. And I can betcha a buck, that my history education 40 years ago, was better than what kids are getting today!

GAAAK! I'm feeling old.

I do hope the IDF is rocking tonight!

244 hazzyday  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:21:35pm

There are nicer people in worse conditions in worse places in the world than Gaza. Gaza has been given billions and has nadda to show for it. The pro Palestinians need to have their lunch thrown back at them. They need to understand how untenable they are.

245 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:22:47pm

re: #238 realwest

I visted the site where Bergen Belsen was when I went to Germany. Although it was nothing compared to the "better known" camps, it was chilling non the less

246 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:23:16pm

re: #235 itellu3times

May I quibble? There are no "crimes" in this environment, crime is a violation of shared norms. The problem here is there are no shared norms. This is conflict, not crime.

Laws of Nature.
This IS a crime.

IMNSHO

247 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:24:41pm

re: #240 lifeofthemind

I disagree, in fact I emphatically disagree. That is importing a legal insanity plea into this discussion where it does not belong. We choose our moral compass and we act. They choose to deny the humanity of others and then justify violence, we must act according to standards, the best we can and we either judge them by the most sensitive and just standards we have, that we demonstrate to them or we declare them incapable of observing and learning. If you believe that then you are saying they can not be conversed with only destroyed. The choice in how they act is theirs ad so are the consequences. It is called Free Will and I do not deny it.

You jump to one invalid conclusion here, that they cannot change, or even that they must change, to come to a consensus with us. My point is that they must change behavior, which perhaps you agree with, perhaps you intend, when you refer to their "crimes". I have no position on whether change is easy, hard, or impossible. They need not "really" change, either - I don't base arguments on what the essence is of this or that. Most of all, they have to realize what the costs and benefits are, of acting this way or that.

248 Cygnus  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:24:55pm

re: #85 Desert Dog

You should turn on the Starbucks Expresso hose on them and wash them away

No, no! That might pollute the unsullied waters of Puget Sound!

249 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:25:00pm

re: #230 Dustyvet

I learned to type in the Army, 1 manual Typewriter, a ream of paper, and a two and half ton truck, full of carbon paper....

Reminds me of my niece.

She saw her dad using a typewriter and making a carbon paper copy... and she thought it was a cool, new invention! [The carbon paper, not the typewriter]

250 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:25:39pm

re: #38 rawmuse

Does anyone here have experience using a Japanese style saw?
I am thinking of picking one up. I hear they are good for precise cuts.

I have a dozuki, very similar to the first illustration in the Wiki article. It is very precise, and almost effortless to use. Being as it's a backsaw (rib along the back of the blade), there's a limit on the thickness of stock you can cut with it. But, up to the limit, it's very useful, indeed.

Mine was a gift, but I know came from Lee Valley Tools. If you love fine tools, their catalog is A #1 drool-worthy.

251 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:26:08pm

re: #246 LeePro

Laws of Nature.
This IS a crime.

IMNSHO

What are you talking about, are they floating three inches above the ground or something?

252 BignJames  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:27:00pm

re: #249 stevieray

Carbon paper? CARBON paper? Does Al know about this?

253 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:27:06pm

re: #242 realwest

the "Palestinian" people overwhelmingly elected Hamas to power,

Sorry ,, but not really !

Of the Electoral Lists, Hamas received 44.45% and Fatah 41.43%[1] and of the Electoral Districts, Hamas party candidates received 41.73% and Fatah party candidates received 36.96%

Just over 3% margin

254 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:27:47pm

re: #253 sattv4u2

the "Palestinian" people overwhelmingly elected Hamas to power,

Sorry ,, but not really !

Of the Electoral Lists, Hamas received 44.45% and Fatah 41.43%[1] and of the Electoral Districts, Hamas party candidates received 41.73% and Fatah party candidates received 36.96%

Just over 3% margin

So who got the rest, Ron Paul?

255 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:28:07pm

re: #247 itellu3times

You jump to one invalid conclusion here, that they cannot change, or even that they must change, to come to a consensus with us. My point is that they must change behavior, which perhaps you agree with, perhaps you intend, when you refer to their "crimes". I have no position on whether change is easy, hard, or impossible. They need not "really" change, either - I don't base arguments on what the essence is of this or that. Most of all, they have to realize what the costs and benefits are, of acting this way or that.

You waded in here with an argument that can charitably be described as puerile and now wrap it in obfuscation. I am not being paid to teach logic or rhetoric here.

256 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:28:31pm

IDF VLOG UPDATE: Ground Forces Enter Gaza - Capt. Benjamin Rutland - 3 Jan. 2009


Youtube Video

257 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:28:39pm

re: #252 BignJames

Carbon paper? CARBON paper? Does Al know about this?

Sequestration! We'll make a fortune!

Ban the copier... its carbon paper for all!

258 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:29:19pm

Good night friends much of this was LGF at its best, really like a lively night at Belmont Club, thank you.

259 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:29:24pm

re: #254 itellu3times

So who got the rest, Ron Paul?

could be,, but more likely any one of a dozen smaller parties, both more and less radical than Hamas. Much like our elections with the Green Party, the Libratarians, etc etc

260 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:30:21pm

re: #243 Floral Giraffe Oh absolutely. In the first big package we received for becoming charter members, the foundation which was in the process of building the building and assembling the exhibits, was an excerpt from Dwight David Eisenhower's diary. It said - rough reproduction from memory here "I asked Georgie (George Patton) to accompany me to look inside the ovens. George said he could not do so - he had done so when his troops liberated the camp and had to hide his throwing up because he didn't think it right for troops to see their leader throwing up over that. I responded: George, if men like you and I don't go and look, bear witness to this unspeakable barbarity, then in time people will deny it ever happened. We MUST NOT LET THAT HAPPEN." Ike was a very good man for doing that and writing and later on speaking about it, but even he couldn't foresee that some people - a lot of people - would forget it ever happened, much less deny that it did.

261 itellu3times  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:30:55pm

re: #255 lifeofthemind

You waded in here with an argument that can charitably be described as puerile and now wrap it in obfuscation. I am not being paid to teach logic or rhetoric here.

You leave yourself open to a nasty response, when you talk thus. I shall refrain. I was after all only quibbling. Sorry if it set you off.

I was just pointing out the difference between "crime" and "force majeur". If I may suggest, don't make like a PC liberal and limit yourself to just the one.

262 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:31:03pm

I might still have some carbon paper around here. Think it would sell on E-Bay?

263 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:32:53pm

Evening folks. GO IDF.

264 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:33:12pm

re: #262 Pvt Bin Jammin

I might still have some carbon paper around here. Think it would sell on E-Bay?

Let's add a C-Ration Ham and Lima Beans, and sell it as a set. We'll make a mint...:)

265 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:33:15pm

re: #262 Pvt Bin Jammin

I might still have some carbon paper around here. Think it would sell on E-Bay?

Take it on Antiques Roadshow.

266 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:33:33pm

re: #254 itellu3times

So who got the rest, Ron Paul?

scroll to near the bottom, under "FINAL RESULTS"

There are 9 other parties besides hamas and fatah listed

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

267 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:33:59pm

re: #262 Pvt Bin Jammin

I might still have some carbon paper around here. Think it would sell on E-Bay?

Might depend on what's "imprinted" on the back of it!

268 BignJames  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:34:17pm

re: #262 Pvt Bin Jammin

I might still have some carbon paper around here. Think it would sell on E-Bay?


You might get arrested....re-education at the least.....carbon!..Hmmph.

269 Cygnus  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:35:17pm

re: #102 marinegrunt

Too funny to let it slip by.
paste on your browser window

codepinkforpeaceDOTCOM

that's too funny!

270 realwest  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:35:28pm

Sorry y'all but it's late and I must sleep. I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that the IDF kicks ass.
I also hope I have the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night, all.

271 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:35:35pm

re: #264 Dustyvet

Let's add a C-Ration Ham and Lima Beans, and sell it as a set. We'll make a mint...:)

You have to talk up the Lima Beans. I just can't do a pitch on them. My poor mom could never get me to eat them.

272 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:35:35pm

Kelly's Heroes - Tank Duel Scene


Youtube Video

273 lifeofthemind  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:35:38pm

re: #261 itellu3times

You leave yourself open to a nasty response, when you talk thus. I shall refrain. I was after all only quibbling. Sorry if it set you off.

I was just pointing out the difference between "crime" and "force majeur". If I may suggest, don't make like a PC liberal and limit yourself to just the one.

Look Mr I'm tired but before I retire I will get this off my chest. Serious adults were having a serious conversation about the most serious thing in history and you decided to wade in like some half witted undergraduate trying to impress the girls with snarkiness at a dormitory all nighter. You were an ass and you should have taken the hint. yes you were quibbling and you were spanked for doing so. I was not impressed, Got It? Now grow up.

274 swamprat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:35:53pm

re: #267 LeePro

Nothing really; some memo about a guy named "Bush".

275 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:35:54pm

re: #270 realwest

Sorry y'all but it's late and I must sleep. I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that the IDF kicks ass.
I also hope I have the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night, all.

Night real,

Hope you are feeling good these days and happy NY.

276 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:36:25pm

re: #264 Dustyvet

Let's add a C-Ration Ham and Lima Beans, and sell it as a set. We'll make a mint...:)

C-Ration Ham...
Lima Beans...
mint...

EVOO, dash o' salt, some garlic... BAM!

277 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:37:09pm

re: #265 stevieray

LOL I have an IBM Selectric as well. We're going to make a mint./

278 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:37:44pm

re: #274 swamprat

Nothing really; some memo about a guy named "Bush".

LOL!

279 Cygnus  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:38:47pm

re: #232 stevieray

Lovely people. Let's give them a state!

/

They already have a state. State of insanity.

280 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:38:56pm

re: #267 LeePro

Might depend on what's "imprinted" on the back of it!

That could be good, LOL, but unfortunately I think it was a newsletter for my daughter's elementary school.

281 LeePro  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:42:44pm

Late.

Sleepy.

G'nite, {Good Lizards}!

282 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:43:51pm

re: #281 LeePro

Late.

Sleepy.

G'nite, {Good Lizards}!

I love that hammock. G'nite Lee, take care.

283 swamprat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:47:27pm

very strange cowboy songs...first;

Youtube Video

full lyrics
Oh, Mister Boomer Johnson was agettin' old in spots
But you don't expect a bad man to go 'rasslin' pans and pots.
He'd done his share of killin', but his draw was gettin' slow
So he quits apunchin' cattle and he takes to punchin' dough.

Our foreman up an hires him thinkin' age had rode him tame
But a snake don't get no sweeter by the changin' of his name.
Boomer knew his business, he could cook to make you smile
But say, he wrangled fodder in a most peculiar style.

284 swamprat  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:49:42pm

second. Easier to hear;

Youtube Video

285 Maximu§  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:49:51pm

My wife watches Oxygen and MTV and I'm sorely tempted to put my size 11 through the tube.

286 Maximu§  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:51:51pm

Has anyone seen The Curious Case of Benjamin Button ?

287 Maximu§  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:52:45pm

God, I hope I'm not alone in here....

288 traderjoe9  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:53:02pm

Op-ed on why Israelis feel threatened...

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Hezbullah from the north...Hamastan from the south...and Iran from the east with a nuclear program...All threatening to destroy a country the size of Massachusetts.

That's gotta suck.

289 traderjoe9  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:53:15pm

re: #287 Maximu§

God, I hope I'm not alone in here....

Nope!

290 Dianna  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:53:40pm

re: #286 Maximu§

Has anyone seen The Curious Case of Benjamin Button ?

No, I'm sorry, Max.

I'm not exactly awake, I just can't sleep.

291 traderjoe9  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:55:38pm

re: #286 Maximu§

Has anyone seen The Curious Case of Benjamin Button ?

I have!

Excellent movie. Have you seen it?

292 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:56:11pm

re: #286 Maximu§

Has anyone seen The Curious Case of Benjamin Button ?

Haven't seen the Benjamin Button thing but I don't much care for the Oxygen Channel or MTV.
You are not alone. LOL

293 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:56:26pm

Anybody here know what became of the Cox & Forkum moonbat that used to be this page's banner, running from the Football?

294 stevieray  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:57:49pm

re: #293 Alberta Oil Peon

Anybody here know what became of the Cox & Forkum moonbat that used to be this page's banner, running from the Football?

People have asked before, but I've never seen an answer.

295 Maximu§  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:59:03pm

re: #291 traderjoe9

I have!

Excellent movie. Have you seen it?

Last night with my wife, its going to sweep the Oscars. I loved the boat captain who said he was an artist.

Bin Jammin, my wife loves the reality shows and they make me sick....

296 Clemente  Sat, Jan 3, 2009 11:59:51pm

re: #195 stevieray

Six million is too much to comprehend completely, it sometimes becomes a statistic. One person in front of you is inescapable reality.

One way to scale it: If every single comment ever made on LGF was the sole expression of one unique individual, and then, in the amount of time now passed since DanRat's Memo, every last one of those commenters - that is, 68,000 realwests, 6800 LeePros, 4400 stevierays, 1400 Clementes, and over 6 million more - were rounded up and systematically imprisoned and murdered, you'd have the scope, scale and approximate time line of the slaughter of European Jewry. An abomination only surpassed by the expressed intent of Koranic Islam.

297 traderjoe9  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:01:00am

re: #295 Maximu§

Last night with my wife, its going to sweep the Oscars. I loved the boat captain who said he was an artist.

Bin Jammin, my wife loves the reality shows and they make me sick....

Yup. I enjoyed everything about it...the lightning scenes were absolutely hilarious.

298 Dianna  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:01:04am

I never made promises lightly -
There may be some that I've broken,
But I swear in the days still left,
That we'll walk in fields of gold.

OK. I have a line I'll forgive Sting most of his idiocy for.

299 Cygnus  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:01:12am

re: #285 Maximu§

My wife watches Oxygen and MTV and I'm sorely tempted to put my size 11 through the tube.

"Real Housewives of Orange County" is far worse. I want to hurl every time I have to see them.

300 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:02:09am

re: #295 Maximu§

I really don't like the reality shows either and I'm a gal. In fact I really don't understand why people go for those shows. Guess I'm a wierod. LOL

301 Maximu§  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:03:18am

re: #297 traderjoe9

Yup. I enjoyed everything about it...the lightning scenes were absolutely hilarious.

You mean the guy who got stuck 7 times from lightening? Everytime a bolt hit him, there would be a puff of smoke...lol

302 Dianna  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:03:36am

re: #300 Pvt Bin Jammin

I really don't like the reality shows either and I'm a gal. In fact I really don't understand why people go for those shows. Guess I'm a wierod. LOL

I've never watched one, unless Deadliest Catch counts?

303 traderjoe9  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:05:14am

re: #301 Maximu§

You mean the guy who got stuck 7 times from lightening? Everytime a bolt hit him, there would be a puff of smoke...lol

Heh...yah, it was just hilarious how they came up with all the different scenarios for him to get struck by lightning and how they presented it. Added even more humor to this wonderful movie.

304 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:05:45am

re: #302 Dianna

I've never watched one, unless Deadliest Catch counts?

I have watched that before. Don't think it counts. LOL

/"Cheaters" just came on one of our So Cal Channels and I haven't turned it off yet.

305 Dianna  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:06:38am

re: #304 Pvt Bin Jammin

I have watched that before. Don't think it counts. LOL

/"Cheaters" just came on one of our So Cal Channels and I haven't turned it off yet.

I'm dead sure I'd never watch a show about cheating. It's usually a miserable endeavor.

306 Maximu§  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:07:45am

re: #299 Cygnus

"Real Housewives of Orange County" is far worse. I want to hurl every time I have to see them.

Cygnus and Bin Jammin, I watched an episode with my wife showing some rich guys Bimbo wife throwing a pool party, her and her friends were panty flashing younger guys at the party.....while the older guy (the rich one) sat in the corner cause he was fighting cancer. If I was that older guy I woulda whipped out my Remmington.

307 Dianna  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:08:54am

re: #306 Maximu§

On his behalf, I would have.

I don't understand that lack of honor.

308 traderjoe9  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:08:57am

Anyone see this video yet?

Youtube Video

That's a hell of a humanitarian crisis...

309 traderjoe9  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:10:40am

Hamas calls UN Security Council ridiculous.

I think they're actually right this time!

310 Maximu§  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:10:49am

re: #303 traderjoe9

Heh...yah, it was just hilarious how they came up with all the different scenarios for him to get struck by lightning and how they presented it. Added even more humor to this wonderful movie.

It was so sad at the end when the baby Benjamin closed his eyes at the end. It was hard not to shed a tear......remember that nice lady who taught him to play the piano? She was cool and the one he finally fell in love with...the one who was married to the spy.

311 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:11:09am

re: #305 Dianna

I'm dead sure I'd never watch a show about cheating. It's usually a miserable endeavor.

Miserable for sure. The big "show down" is coming on after the next commercial and in the meantime there was an ad to meet nice "singles". LOL
What the heck, I might as well watch the big show down. SNL sucks.

312 Maximu§  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:12:44am

re: #307 Dianna

On his behalf, I would have.

I don't understand that lack of honor.

Your my kinda girl. I'm not sure why my wife loves these shows, but I detest them and the selfish people they portray,

Oh, btw,......Go Chargers!

313 traderjoe9  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:12:44am

re: #310 Maximu§

It was so sad at the end when the baby Benjamin closed his eyes at the end. It was hard not to shed a tear......remember that nice lady who taught him to play the piano? She was cool and the one he finally fell in love with...the one who was married to the spy.

Yah, the ending was very sad. Throughout the whole movie I was sitting and expecting the end when he would die as a baby...but they still managed to make it a very emotional scene.

314 Maximu§  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:14:10am

re: #313 traderjoe9

Yah, the ending was very sad. Throughout the whole movie I was sitting and expecting the end when he would die as a baby...but they still managed to make it a very emotional scene.

The theater was packed in my neighborhood.

315 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:14:17am

re: #312 Maximu§

Did they win? I missed the game.

316 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:14:50am

re: #312 Maximu§

You realize that if the Chargers advance to the super bowl, then and only then will their win total match that of the New England Patriots?

317 traderjoe9  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:15:04am

re: #314 Maximu§

The theater was packed in my neighborhood.

Do you know how much money the movie made so far?

318 Maximu§  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:15:20am

re: #315 Pvt Bin Jammin

Did they win? I missed the game.

OMG, the Chargers look good this year...they beat the Colts in OT.

319 Dianna  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:15:28am

re: #311 Pvt Bin Jammin

Miserable for sure. The big "show down" is coming on after the next commercial and in the meantime there was an ad to meet nice "singles". LOL
What the heck, I might as well watch the big show down. SNL sucks.

I think it always did.

I'm just sitting here, because dinner's over, our friends have gone home and my Male's working - not his fault (a server fell down, went boom) - and I'm sitting here, doing not much at all. I just can't sleep.

320 zombie  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:16:21am

I'm experiencing a new kind of jihad which, to coin a term, I'll call "troll jihad."

In troll jihad, the servants of Allah go around on the Internet, and whenever they encounter a post that is critical of them (or so they perceive), they pretend to be intolerant American warmongers and leave comments like "Kill all the M_ _ _ _ _ ms," and "We should just wipe them all out," etc. Then they'll come back on with a different commenting name and point out how the other commenters are genocidal racists.

They don't seem to know that we admins can see the IPs of commenters, so I know that the jihadists are leaving those cartoonishly stupid pseudo-genocidal comments themselves, in order to discredit the site in question.

Just in the last couple hours, I've had to delete five such comments at zomblog, inspired by my latest thread.

Troll jihad may not be as bad as Maximum Jihad, but damn it sure can be annoying!

321 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:16:45am

re: #318 Maximu§

OMG, the Chargers look good this year...they beat the Colts in OT.

W00T! It sounds like I missed a great game. Go Chargers!

322 Dianna  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:17:21am

re: #320 zombie

Sorry, zombie.

Is that why you're up past midnight?

323 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:18:45am

re: #320 zombie

Semi-literate Jihadi Mobys?

/worst of a couple of different worlds...

324 zombie  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:18:49am

re: #322 Dianna

Sorry, zombie.

Is that why you're up past midnight?

No, I'm always up past midnight. But I hate wasting time tracking down these cyber-jihadists and their antics! "Relentless" is certainly an appropriate term for them.

325 traderjoe9  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:19:04am

My cousin is in the Golani Brigade. Son of a bitch chose a hell of a moment to get thrown into military prison.

326 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:19:15am

re: #320 zombie

OMG "Troll Jihad" Who would've "thunk it". LOL We live in interesting times, that's for sure.

327 Maximu§  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:19:27am

re: #316 Fenway_Nation

You realize that if the Chargers advance to the super bowl, then and only then will their win total match that of the New England Patriots?

They may have to beat Miami to get to the Superbowl...did you see them beat the Colts?

328 Dianna  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:19:34am

re: #324 zombie

No, I'm always up past midnight. But I hate wasting time tracking down these cyber-jihadists and their antics! "Relentless" is certainly an appropriate term for them.

Ugh.

You put up with a lot.

329 spirochete  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:20:06am

I read Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich a few months ago. After reading chapter 27, I went into the bathroom and threw up. It was a life changing event for me.

330 zombie  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:20:33am

re: #323 Fenway_Nation

Semi-literate Jihadi Mobys?

/worst of a couple of different worlds...

Troll jihad and Moby jihad are both subsets of cyber jihad, which is a component of the "great jihad" (an actual term) -- i.e. warfare.

331 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:20:47am

re: #326 Pvt Bin Jammin


Think of it as yet another example of the jihadis mimicing the tactics of the far left (or vice-versa).

332 Maximu§  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:21:37am

I'm drink, er Drunk, I'm going to sleep...goodnight all!

333 zombie  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:22:44am

re: #326 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG "Troll Jihad" Who would've "thunk it".

Well, in actual islamic doctrine, there is "jihad of the tongue" (i.e. lying to promote Islam), "jihad of the hand" (i.e. giving funding for military activities), etc. It's only logical that the various categories would get a 21st century update!

334 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:22:51am

re: #331 Fenway_Nation

You've got that right.

335 zombie  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:23:22am

re: #329 spirochete

I read Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich a few months ago. After reading chapter 27, I went into the bathroom and threw up. It was a life changing event for me.

What is the topic of chapter 27?

336 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:23:59am

re: #327 Maximu§

I thought for sure Norvelle would've found a way to give that one away again.

337 spirochete  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:24:07am

re: #335 zombie

Medical experiments. I'm a doctor. It was revolting.

338 zombie  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:25:12am

re: #337 spirochete

Medical experiments. I'm a doctor. It was revolting.

Ah. Yeah, that was bad. Very very bad. And the Imperial Japanese, if anything, were even worse in that regard.

339 stevieray  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:25:51am

re: #320 zombie

Write a Zomblog post about it, complete with IP evidence, and we lizards will see that it is spread far and wide around the innertubes.

340 Outrider  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:27:46am

re: #338 zombie

Ah. Yeah, that was bad. Very very bad. And the Imperial Japanese, if anything, were even worse in that regard.

as hard as it is to believe, the japanese were actually worse with the medical experiments, primarily with the Chinese prisoners. Amazing the atrocities man can perform when all restraints are removed.

341 zombie  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:27:56am

re: #339 stevieray

Eh, I got so much else to do! I didn't even actually have the spare time to post the thing I did this evening. By doing so, 14 other things in my life went to pot.

Where does everyone find the time to do everything?

342 spirochete  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:28:07am

re: #338 zombie

Ah. Yeah, that was bad. Very very bad. And the Imperial Japanese, if anything, were even worse in that regard.

I would probably agree with that. The I.J. were one of the few forces that used bioweapons this century. In addition to all the other mayhem, including experiments, they inflicted on the Chinese.

I met an old man in the back of a bus in rural China, on my way to the Shaolin Monastary. I didn't know much history then. He asked me if I was American. When I said yes, he nodded and said "Lao peng you" - "old friend"

343 traderjoe9  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:28:53am

Israeli soldiers currently clashing with Hamastan...

Thank God so far the only damage has been wounded soldiers and not casualties...

344 stevieray  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:30:35am

re: #341 zombie

We don't do anything... we watch you do everything!

/heh

345 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:30:46am

re: #338 zombie


I know of Unit 731 by reputation...I remember hearing somewhere that some of the Korean prisoners experimented on were irate that the Americans stopped at two atomic bombs.

/The staged pseudo-outrage some people (like Rev. Wright Wrong) express over the bombs being dropped in Hiroshima and Nagasaki are direct predecesors to the contemporary 'disproprtionate response' the lefties and more media-savvy Islamists accuse Israel of being guilty of..

346 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:31:45am

re: #337 spirochete

I read that when I was seventeen. Had decided to do a high school term paper on the atrocities of Hitler & Co. There have been times, now that I am old, that I've thought I should read that and the other books I read just to see if I was too young and overly sensitive and I can't go there. Once was more than enough.

347 mean Gene  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:32:20am

This whole ''troll jihad'' thing reminded me of the plot (which was published on a few lefty blogs) to go to patriotic sites with discussion boards (as the US and allies went into Afghanistan and later Iraq) pretending to be the relative of a US soldier and ''oh, so proud.''
Then, over time to become disillusioned and even to claim he/she was injured or killed.
Then to try to turn as many as possible against the war.
Anyone else remember those types of posts (here or other places)?
We had plenty of them on Ted Nugent's ''Nuge Board'' (before he started charging to join).

348 spirochete  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:36:57am

re: #346 Pvt Bin Jammin

Some things, I think, you should just not go back and revisit. At least not in the same writings. I am about halfway through life now (God willing and the creek don't rise). I remember reading that one should read Don Quixote as a youth, in the middle, and as an old man. I did the first...I'm damn near the second.

349 spirochete  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:38:20am

re: #347 mean Gene

Never heard of this but it wouldn't surprise me. To me, this is an extreme version of social engineering. Yeah, it's flat out lying.

350 traderjoe9  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:38:22am

[Link: blog.wired.com...]

That is some bad-ass shit.

351 spirochete  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:39:43am

Hi, self. I'm hitting the sack. I agree with Zomb, not enough time for everything.

352 traderjoe9  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:40:16am

Good night spiro!

353 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:40:42am

re: #350 traderjoe9

[Link: blog.wired.com...]

That is some bad-ass shit.

I'd like to place an order for CA, AZ, NM and TX.

354 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:42:57am

re: #348 spirochete

Some things, I think, you should just not go back and revisit. At least not in the same writings. I am about halfway through life now (God willing and the creek don't rise). I remember reading that one should read Don Quixote as a youth, in the middle, and as an old man. I did the first...I'm damn near the second.

I am reaching the third read on Don Quixote, I think. (Of course sixty is the new forty so maybe I'll read it four times). I really think, looking back, that I should have done that paper in college rather than high school. I read all of those books, even Mein Kamphf (not looking at the spell check this late, LOL) I was totally freaked out but, then again, would be having nightmares even now.

355 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:43:12am

Morning Lizards. Dv if you are still here glad your stones are gone. Down side is no More Vicadin.
Question. Is there a web site that has live satellite feed over Gaza. Also is there a site/blog that is live blogging?
Thanks

356 mean Gene  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:47:28am

re: #355 Erik The Red

Morning Lizards. Dv if you are still here glad your stones are gone. Down side is no More Vicadin.
Question. Is there a web site that has live satellite feed over Gaza. Also is there a site/blog that is live blogging?
Thanks

Liveblogging.....I've found a couple:
[Link: www.israellycool.com...]
[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]
[Link: twitter.com...] Keyword #GazaWar

357 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:50:12am

re: #356 mean Gene

Liveblogging.....I've found a couple:
[Link: www.israellycool.com...]
[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]
[Link: twitter.com...] Keyword #GazaWar

Thanks. I'm saving your post for morning. Late for me here. During the Mumbai thing I was addicted to "Twitter Mumbai".

Nite. Prayers for the IDF.

358 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:53:03am

re: #356 mean Gene

Liveblogging.....I've found a couple:
[Link: www.israellycool.com...]
[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]
[Link: twitter.com...] Keyword #GazaWar

Thanks will check these out now.

359 Unboldened  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 12:59:20am

re: #296 Clemente

Finally found the link... this page lists in detail the many, many numbers related to the crimes committed by and on behalf of those tried at Nuremberg. It goes beyond a simple "grand total" and lists some of the individual acts that lead to the total... I think all but the most damaged individuals (or maybe illiterate) could manage to read this and not get choked up.

The hardest part for me is when I hit the point that I know I'm going to have trouble sleeping for the next few weeks and then realize I'm not even near the halfway point. It isn't light reading at all, but I recommend passing it around to anybody who ever seems to have trouble grasping why the Nazis, fascism, and extremist views in general are so reviled by many "sane" people.

Unfortunately, I reread it before posting this and haven't got the energy to stay up any longer. Good night, lizards.

360 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:01:11am
361 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:04:15am

Good video asks the question, "Would you let it happen to you?"

Youtube Video

362 abolitionist  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:14:16am

re: #18 Magalaga Ding Dong

Reminds me of the movie Brazil for some reason. I should see this movie.

This one was good. Joe vs the Volcano.

363 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:22:17am
364 ThingFish  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:26:28am

re: #38 rawmuse

Don't know if anyone answered you yet. I have and like it... Cuts pretty well. Quicker than an American saw. More precise. Not so sure about that.
From my experience, an American saw cuts one way, the Japanese one cuts both ways- hence the quickness factor.

365 Kelidor  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:28:20am

Friends,

Kindly view this 90 second video on the dishonest reporting of Israel's situation in the war.

If you feel you can sign the petition at the end of the clip, please do so and forward to your lists.

Many thanks.

[Link: www.honestreporting.com...]

367 reggie  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:43:08am

Is anyone else tuned into CNN's live international coverage right now? It's outrageous! The preseneter's questioning of her Israeli guest was condescending, and then without comment she let the Palestinian rep claim that Israel killed Arafat. This, while he droned on and on with his empty rhetoric for at least twice the time allotted the Israeli. She just re-capped for everyone's benefit "how we got here," and her timeline starts (wait for it...) with the Israeli air strikes one week ago. Truly, truly disgusting.

368 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:46:58am

Are lol, Blue,red or Sham. in the house? Who is on fruitcup duty?

369 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:49:23am

*raises hand*

370 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:50:32am

I'm watching the icons dance. Charles rearranged the furniture again. ;-)

'Morning, Erik! :-)

371 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:51:37am

re: #369 littleoldlady

*raises hand*

Yeah. This pressure is to much for me. I was going to make some extra for the IDF. Maybe you can do it. Are you home yet?

372 abolitionist  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:52:11am

Good morning, LOL.

373 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:53:05am

re: #370 littleoldlady

I'm watching the icons dance. Charles rearranged the furniture again. ;-)

'Morning, Erik! :-)

And a very good morning to you gracious lady.

374 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:55:09am

re: #371 Erik The Red

Not home yet. Still on the road. This has turned into the Trip from Heck.

/not looking for trouble...it COULD be worse.

Roanoke Rapids in Northern NC. If we don't make it home by 4:30 today (Eagles game) there will be Heck to pay. ;-)

FruitcupMobile™ is operational, though.

375 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 1:55:53am

abolitionist! :-)

376 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:00:09am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

377 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:01:27am

Going to see if I can scrounge up some coffee.... brb.

378 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:02:08am

re: #376 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

Thank you lol. Tastes a hell of a lot better when make by you. Drive safe and enjoy the game.

379 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:04:18am

re: #378 Erik The Red

Thank you lol. Tastes a hell of a lot better when make by you. Drive safe and enjoy the game.

Made
PIMF

380 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:05:11am

re: #378 Erik The Red
So go ahead and rub it in Eric, you're sitting by the pool with a cold libation arent you?

381 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:06:04am

re: #380 Panhandler

So go ahead and rub it in Eric, you're sitting by the pool with a cold libation arent you?

YES I AM.

382 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:07:19am

Panhandler! :-)

383 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:07:51am

re: #381 Erik The Red

I knew it, I just knew it! Course too, it's 61F and cloudy at 0400 here so I'd better not complain, lol would have my guts for garters.

384 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:09:12am

re: #382 littleoldlady

What? Me? I was just commenting on the beautiful commuting weather you're enjoying, honest.

385 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:09:48am

re: #383 Panhandler

Nah. We're still in the Sweatshirt Zone. The Heavy Jacket Zone is coming up in a few miles, though... :-(

386 BignJames  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:11:23am

re: #385 littleoldlady

Raining yet?

387 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:12:31am

re: #385 littleoldlady

Well, other than the MNT sulk, the car and unfortunately the funeral, how was your visit to our fair state?

388 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:12:56am

re: #386 BignJames

BignJames! :-)

CRAP. That's going to slow me down...

/grumble, grumble

389 BignJames  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:15:31am

re: #388 littleoldlady


Might see rain by Petersburg/Richmond.....hopefully it's warm enough so there's no ice.

390 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:16:56am

re: #387 Panhandler

Well let's see...we decided to leave a day early; beat the traffic and put a sock in my kid's whining.

/besides, we miss the dog!

Got as far as Titusville when the car broke down. A belt broke, which was a 5 minute fix had not a thigamajig broken as well. Took them the entire day to find the part, which was actually a LUCKY break, because they closed at 5 for the weekend.

Titusville is nice. We saw all of it...

391 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:16:56am

re: #389 BignJames

Might see rain by Petersburg/Richmond.....hopefully it's warm enough so there's no ice.

Let's hope so Bign, it's 35F where she's at now.

392 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:21:02am

re: #391 Panhandler

You guyz are killing me! :-(

Not cold enough for ice - not even in Philadelphia by the time we get there.

/small favors...

393 BignJames  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:21:28am

re: #389 BignJames

Might see rain by Petersburg/Richmond.....hopefully it's warm enough so there's no ice.


Just checked radar....maybe not!

394 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:24:54am

So, lol, I understand there will be an American foot ball game sometime today? Are you into sports at all?
///

395 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:28:11am

re: #394 Panhandler

Only when it's the home team.

/need to get taco dip fixings, donja know. ;-)

Philadelphia teams are so successful (NOT!) that we figure a Phillies World Series win PLUS an Eagles SuperBowl win would kick the Earth off its axis.

And that's the optimistic view...

396 yochanan  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:29:45am

re: #392 littleoldlady

any fruitcup left?

397 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:30:56am

re: #395 littleoldlady

MMMM, taco dip, have you tried Miss Trixie's recipe? I started to get invited to parties again after I made it a couple of times.

398 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:31:33am

re: #396 yochanan
Tons, slow night and red didn't get a chance to massage it.

399 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:33:00am

re: #396 yochanan

yochanan! :-)

You betcha!

re: #397 Panhandler

Haven't seen Miss Trixie's recipe. What is it?

400 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:35:05am

re: #398 Panhandler

Tell me about it....the closest I got to 'enhanced' fruitcup is this slowly emptying bottle of Bacardi next to it.

401 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:37:25am

Fenway! :-)

We were watching the Atlanta/Arizona game while at dinner last night.

/we've reached the point where none of us are talking to each other (lovely vacation! let's do it again sometime!) so we welcomed the distraction. Was the outcome what you would have predicted?

402 tappin52  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:37:26am

Thanks for the fruitcup LoL. I have to say that while you were gone I didn't partake of any of the substitute fruit. They were gracious and all, but I waited for you.

403 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:38:54am

tappin52! :-)

Whataguy! ;-)

/I won't tell!

404 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:41:10am

re: #399 littleoldlady

Super good:
1 can refried beans
1/2cup sour cream
4oz pkg of cream cheese - softened
1/2 package taco seasoning mix
4 scallions sliced
4 oz cheddar cheeze
4 oz Monterey Jack cheese.
preheat oven to 350
1 - blend sour cream with cream cheese
2 - Mix in the beans, taco mix,scallions and half of the two cheeses. Put in a small cassarole dish, sprinkle with the remaining cheese.
3 - Bake about 20 min until it's bubbly and lightly browned.
Most stores now have mixed cheddar/Monteray Jack shredded packages so you don't even have to guess.
Works great with "restaurtant" tortilla chips.

405 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:42:39am

re: #398 Panhandler

Tons, slow night and red didn't get a chance to massage it.

that's what you think...... %-)

/white smoke

406 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:44:52am

re: #405 redc1c4

Everybody up and on the line! red's penetrated the wire again!

407 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:46:26am

re: #406 Panhandler

Everybody up and on the line! red's penetrated the wire again!

Dude!

i laid the wire.......

(among other things. %-)

/white smoke

408 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:46:49am

re: #405 redc1c4

Erik's sitting by the pool, I don't suppose that's the case with you, or are you communing with nature?

409 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:49:02am

re: #408 Panhandler

Erik's sitting by the pool, I don't suppose that's the case with you, or are you communing with nature?

We have a saying in Africa.
Life is a bitch in Africa.( Our way to deal with all the shit and enjoy the beauty here.)

410 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:49:49am

re: #404 Panhandler

Ah! Very good. Saved. Thanks! :-)

Here's mine:

Spread two 8 oz packages of cream cheese on the bottom of a pan.

Brown a lb of ground beef, pour off the fat, add a packet of taco seasoning (and water, according to package directions) and cook for a few minutes.

Add a chopped green pepper, chopped jalepeno pepper and a can of chopped tomatoes to the taco beef. Cook for a few more minutes.

Spread the beef mixture over the cream cheese in the pan. Add a layer of chopped or sliced black olives, and a layer of shredded taco cheese blend.

Bake @ 350 for 15-20 minutes.

411 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:50:27am

Hiya, red! :-)

412 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:51:16am

re: #410 littleoldlady

Ah! Very good. Saved. Thanks! :-)

Here's mine:

Spread two 8 oz packages of cream cheese on the bottom of a pan.

Brown a lb of ground beef, pour off the fat, add a packet of taco seasoning (and water, according to package directions) and cook for a few minutes.

Add a chopped green pepper, chopped jalepeno pepper and a can of chopped tomatoes to the taco beef. Cook for a few more minutes.

Spread the beef mixture over the cream cheese in the pan. Add a layer of chopped or sliced black olives, and a layer of shredded taco cheese blend.

Bake @ 350 for 15-20 minutes.

Both saved thanks. I am starving now.

413 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:51:38am

Diced tomatoes.

/senior moment or lack 'o coffee. you choose.

414 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:52:16am

re: #409 Erik The Red

Well, that saying might work when you return to CONUS, depending on the market and Congress. What part of the US are you going to grace with your presence?

415 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:54:14am

re: #414 Panhandler

Well, that saying might work when you return to CONUS, depending on the market and Congress. What part of the US are you going to grace with your presence?

I am guessing from your nic not to far from you. About 20-30 min North of Orlando. Maitland Winter Park area.

416 littleoldlady  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:55:18am

Time to hit the dusty trail...

/feh

Good day, ALL!™

417 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:55:49am

re: #416 littleoldlady

Time to hit the dusty trail...

/feh

Good day, ALL!™

Drive safe and enjoy the game.

418 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:55:51am

re: #408 Panhandler

Erik's sitting by the pool, I don't suppose that's the case with you, or are you communing with nature?

i was just out back to see if i could snipe a rat feeding near the pool, but i've already got all the easy ones...... i guess you could still call that "communing with nature" if you stretched it a bit.

it'll be dawn here in another 4 hours or so...... but i did hear a great horned owl hooting.

419 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:56:22am

re: #411 littleoldlady

Hiya, red! :-)

back atcha!

420 Crux Australis  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:58:26am

Wish me luck for the next three days. 100F+ maximums where I live.

421 tappin52  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 2:59:41am

Well LoL, that dip is going to ruin my diet today. Safe trip home.

422 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:00:40am

re: #420 Crux Australis

Wish me luck for the next three days. 100F+ maximums where I live.

Mental Health!

423 tappin52  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:00:45am

re: #420 Crux Australis
Good luck from snowy NY.

424 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:01:42am

re: #420 Crux Australis

Wish me luck for the next three days. 100F+ maximums where I live.

drink more beer.
do less w*rk.

/survive!

425 tappin52  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:03:36am

Just make sure you don't throw the Fosters on the barbie.

426 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:03:46am

re: #415 Erik The Red
Yup, you'll be close, only about 6 hours to P'Cola by car, 7 if you fly Delta.

427 Crux Australis  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:05:58am

The stupid Australian government has given another $5 million to the Palestinians. Crazy.

428 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:06:43am

re: #426 Panhandler

Yup, you'll be close, only about 6 hours to P'Cola by car, 7 if you fly Delta.

lol. Delta does suck. But it is one of 2 choices I have to get back to the US.

429 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:09:05am

re: #428 Erik The Red

lol. Delta does suck. But it is one of 2 choices I have to get back to the US.

The saying here in the Western Gate to the Sunshine State is that when you die, you can't get to Heaven without going through Hartsfield.

430 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:12:37am

re: #427 Crux Australis

The stupid Australian government has given another $5 million to the Palestinians. Crazy.

The Hamas Palis are in a bind, their market crashed big time the other day.
CNN had a Pali gal on getting the Hamas line of the day, she was going on about the nasty Israelis cutting off the power. Split screen, other shot was of Gaza at night with all the lights blazing.

431 Erik The Red  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:17:11am

I wish I had a choice other than CNN International for my world news. They are trying not to be kissing Hamas's ass. But they still are. They are pissed that Israel will not let them into Gaza. FUCK YOU CNN

432 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:20:44am

re: #431 Erik The Red

They and AFP ,et al went to an Israeli judge and got him to sign an order telling the IDF to let them into gaza as a pool group. IDF hasn't responed to the order the last I read.

433 yochanan  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:21:47am

re: #432 Panhandler

better yet arrest the momzars as spys
if we were to shoot them we would get reports on the 72 virgin hags.

434 Crux Australis  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:22:09am

I remember last Thursday a Hamas spokesperson called in to a conservative talk back show on a radio station in Sydney. The radio interview was cut short when this spokesperson refused to correct the lies he was spruiking and then accused the radio announcer of racism.

435 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:27:03am

re: #434 Crux Australis

How many times do you have to tell them - Muslim isn't a race!

436 Crux Australis  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:31:51am

I have no idea who is going to win the Ravens-Dolphins game.

437 Alouette  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:33:52am

re: #159 stevieray

Me too. My next-door neighbors growing up were Jewish. They had an uncle who came to live with them in his waning years, and he had the tattoo on his arm. I must've been eight when they told me why he had it.

Our next-door neighbors and across-the-street neighbors were survivors, and they were never shy about answering any questions that my kids asked them. Both these gentlemen have passed away. This generation is slowing fading away, there are not many left.

438 Killian Bundy  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:35:45am

Hamas moves on Fatah 'collaborators'

Fatah officials in Ramallah told The Jerusalem Post that Hamas militiamen had been assaulting many Fatah activists since the beginning of the operation last Saturday. They said at least 75 activists were shot in the legs while others had their hands broken.

Wisam Abu Jalhoum, a Fatah activist from the Jabalya refugee camp, was shot in the legs by Hamas militiamen for allegedly expressing joy over the IDF air strikes on Hamas targets.

"Hamas is very nervous, because they feel that their end is nearing," a senior Fatah official said. "They have been waging a brutal campaign against Fatah members in the Gaza Strip."

/red on red

439 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:35:54am

re: #437 Alouette

I always get a kick out your avatar, looks like some gal stomping grapes found a nasty surprise.

440 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:37:47am

re: #401 littleoldlady


Between the Cardinals and Chargers, these teams that pretty much snuck into the playoffs or won their crappy divisions by default look like they belong in the postseason now.

441 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:39:39am

re: #432 Panhandler

They and AFP ,et al went to an Israeli judge and got him to sign an order telling the IDF to let them into gaza as a pool cessepool group. IDF hasn't responed to the order the last I read.

Fixed that for ya.

442 Panhandler  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 3:41:25am

re: #441 Fenway_Nation

You are too kind good sir, cessepools are to be denigrated at all times.