Great!
Don't give them ANY slack!

OT -- repost from last thread:

Hey guys, I need a hand from the Lizard-Army...

I saw a graphic recently (similar to the one Charles posted here) that show Israeli killed and wounded caused by Gazan Rockets and Mortars. Does anybody know where that is?

I need it rather urgently.

Please e-mail me if you find it (blue name)

Will definitely be reading these links later. Now, alas, I must work.

What do facts have to do with this?

re: #2 Joo-LiZ

OT -- repost from last thread:

Hey guys, I need a hand from the Lizard-Army...

I saw a graphic recently (similar to the one Charles posted here) that show Israeli killed and wounded caused by Gazan Rockets and Mortars. Does anybody know where that is?

I need it rather urgently.

Please e-mail me if you find it (blue name)

Your nic wasn't blue.
But I saw graphics like these (or it may have been these, I can't recall) either at HotAir, Ace of Spades or Gateway Pundit. Check them out.

is that I.E.D. or I.D. If it is about the hamassholes it got to be I.E.D. since there isn't any intelligence one way or the other their.

Charles - I normally wouldn't post such a link in the top 20 comments, but you have got to look at this propaganda pic.

It implies that the tunnels into Gaza are used for the purpose of smuggling sheep (yes - because the joooos are that evil).

A new low for AFP.

...and that means that everyone who cares about science education should be on guard.

Always.

I demand equal time for Cthulu Mythos Creationism and Flying Spaghetti Monster in the classroom.

But those invisible Pink Unicorn bastards can screw right off.

The Disco Institute has never let facts get in the way of a good argument.

It is a real, rational PLEASURE to read those posts, with their logic, their patient footnoting and reliance on reality. (NOT Behe... Ken Miller!)

After many warnings, the dinosaurs continued to launch rocket and mortar attacks at their stronger neighbors...

Un-occupied Gaza split in half by Israeli tanks. China with a blue water navy going after Somali pirates. Afghan offensive being prepared by Americans. Iran revving up the centrifuges.

And now a Dem president starting.

Wonder what we'll be cleaning up in ten years?

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I demand equal time for Cthulu Mythos Creationism and Flying Spaghetti Monster in the classroom.

But those invisible Pink Unicorn bastards can screw right off.

They tried that in the Arkham school system, but the results were unspeakable.

"These folks are a whole lot better at politics and public relations than they are at science, and that means that everyone who cares about science education should be on guard."

So true on so many levels.

re: #12 experiencedtraveller

After many warnings, the dinosaurs continued to launch rocket and mortar attacks at their stronger neighbors...

Thats just the militant wing. I'm sure we can negotiate with the political wing.

re: #14 Kosh's Shadow

They tried that in the Arkham school system, but the results were unspeakable.

Show and Tell was always great.

For the survivors anyways.

re: #7 karmic_inquisitor

Why does the shepherd need to hide his face behind a rag while guiding his sheep through a tunnel?

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I demand equal time for Cthulu Mythos Creationism and Flying Spaghetti Monster in the classroom.

But those invisible Pink Unicorn bastards can screw right off.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't a monster! Clearly, you have not been touched by His noodley appendage!

re: #18 Mich-again

Why does the shepherd need to hide his face behind a rag while guiding his sheep through a tunnel?

Waiting for the punchline.

re: #18 Mich-again

Why does the shepherd need to hide his face behind a rag while guiding his sheep through a tunnel?

The bride should not see the groom's face prior to the wedding.

re: #18 Mich-again

Can't look at the bride on wedding day, silly.

re: #20 BignJames

Waiting for the punchline.

see 21 and 22. Ha.

What's this?

More anti-Koranic propaganda?

Don't you know that the Koran denies Evolution?

Charles, how dare you? =)

re: #18 Mich-again

Why does the shepherd need to hide his face behind a rag while guiding his sheep through a tunnel?

Notice that he has no shoes - just a poor sheep herder trying to add to his flock. My tear ducts are welling up.

re: #19 Dianna

The Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't a monster! Clearly, you have not been touched by His noodley appendage!

I still think the Spaghetti question hasn't been sufficiently examined. How can we be sure it was spaghetti? Perhaps it was linguine or fettucci. I understand some Asian theologians are now arguing perhaps it was perhaps ramen or soba noodles.

I think they all need equal time in the classroom.

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I still think the Spaghetti question hasn't been sufficiently examined. How can we be sure it was spaghetti? Perhaps it was linguine or fettucci. I understand some Asian theologians are now arguing perhaps it was perhaps ramen or soba noodles.

I think they all need equal time in the classroom.

It's the Ziti, man!

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yes, Pastafarianism has had some problems with sectarianism, lately.

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I still think the Spaghetti question hasn't been sufficiently examined. How can we be sure it was spaghetti? Perhaps it was linguine or fettucci. I understand some Asian theologians are now arguing perhaps it was perhaps ramen or soba noodles.

I think they all need equal time in the classroom.

You are correct --I heard rumors that genetically modified semolina could have been used to make the pasta in question. That leads to ethical questions of algore proportions.

*cue up the Raggae*

Keel de white pasta

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I understand some Asian theologians are now arguing perhaps it was perhaps ramen or soba noodles.

Ah that explains everything.

Hail sObama!

re: #30 spirochete

*cue up the Raggae*

Keel de white pasta

Not fair to Reggae! All they care about is that "no pope" escape.

Kids these days....

re: #29 ggt

You are correct --I heard rumors that genetically modified semolina could have been used to make the pasta in question. That leads to ethical questions of algore proportions.

And was the original primal ooze a ragu or a marinara?

re: #18 Mich-again

Why does the shepherd need to hide his face behind a rag while guiding his sheep through a tunnel?

So the sheep can't point him out in a lineup...

I didn't come from no Manicotti!

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

And was the original primal ooze a ragu or a marinara?

Or maybe an alfredo sauce?

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

Careful guys, this could last all night.

re: #28 Dianna

Yes, Pastafarianism has had some problems with sectarianism, lately.

I can understand the split between the Italian and the Asian Noodles, but those Mac and Cheese bastards are just fricking nutballs.

re: #35 Karridine

So the sheep can't point him out in a lineup...

Sheep: He's the one! I've been fleeced?

Baaaah

re: #19 Dianna

The Flying Spaghetti Monster isn't a monster! Clearly, you have not been touched by His noodley appendage!

They've never experienced the warmth of his meatballs either, I'll warrant.

"These folks are a whole lot better at politics and public relations than they are at science, and that means that everyone who cares about science education should be on guard."

This guy is going right for the conspiracy theories and demagoguery. I am on guard alright for people who want to use public funds and public schools to push their evolutionist agendas.

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

And was the original primal ooze a ragu or a marinara?

red gravy!

OT a "real time" look at who donated 0ver $200 to The 0ne's inauguration.

[Link: www.pic2009.org...]

This is supposed to prove that they don't do this

Unlike previous inaugural committees, the 2009 PIC does not accept contributions from corporations, political action committees, labor unions, current federally-registered lobbyists, non-U.S. citizens and registered foreign agents and does not accept individual contributions in excess of $50,000.

Check out these, as they don't take money from NON us citizens. Hmmm...

Simon Clark Fidelity Ventures London NA 00000 $50,000.00

and

D Tiana Everitt Del Castillo Not employed Madrid na 28013 $50,000.00

and

Robert Roche President Shanghai na 200336 $50,000.00

Now, they COULD be citizens but given past issues...

re: #38 spirochete

Careful guys, this could last all night.

Ah, but I cannot... I must hie me to downtown Bangkok, on errands of necessity...

/bbiaw, about 4 hours from now, Grid willing...

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I can understand the split between the Italian and the Asian Noodles, but those Mac and Cheese bastards are just fricking nutballs.

It's a simple misunderstanding of the founding documents!

re: #38 spirochete

Careful guys, this could last all night.

I certainly hope so!

re: #40 Kosh's Shadow

Down ding in the offing! :D

/baa-ad

re: #37 Kosh's Shadow

Or maybe an alfredo sauce?

Quuick, we need a grant. Get some conference space, caterers, nice hotel rooms with complimetary fruit baskets, free flights for all, pricey speakers...

Oh wait, that was my gf's mother in the education field..and she's retired and on full pension.

re: #42 stretch

Would you care to explain that statement?

So far as I am aware, there is no such thing as an "evolutionist."

They are confused; They shot themselves in the foot when they used a rewrite of a Creationist textbook to present Intelligent Design. The Intelligent design book had already been ruled unacceptable. Transposing the words in the book merely added deception to the mix. The book had already been ruled upon; the judge would be undoing a previous judges ruling. The actual arguments of evolution vs creationism, seem to me to be irrelevant. They screwed themselves by being too lazy or inept to come up with a new book. This case will not resurrect. They are going to need a new "Timmy".

"A new Timmy";

Sorry - I just HAVE to post this in here:

What does the Palestinian do with his fly infested coffee?

The Palestinian blames the Israeli for the fly falling into his coffee, protests the act of aggression to the UN, takes a loan from the European Union to buy a new cup of coffee, uses the money to purchase explosives and then blows up the coffee house where the Italian, the Frenchman, the Chinese, the German and the Russian are all trying to explain to the Israeli that he should give away his cup of tea to the Palestinian.

re: #51 swamprat

They are confused; They shot themselves in the foot when they used a rewrite of a Creationist textbook to present Intelligent Design. The Intelligent design book had already been ruled unacceptable. Transposing the words in the book merely added deception to the mix. The book had already been ruled upon; the judge would be undoing a previous judges ruling. The actual arguments of evolution vs creationism, seem to me to be irrelevant. They screwed themselves by being too lazy or inept to come up with a new book. This case will not resurrect. They are going to need a new "Timmy".

"A new Timmy";

[Video]

I want a new Kenny!

re: #38 spirochete

Careful guys, this could last all night.

She certainly hopes so.

re: #42 stretch

"These folks are a whole lot better at politics and public relations than they are at science, and that means that everyone who cares about science education should be on guard."

This guy is going right for the conspiracy theories and demagoguery. I am on guard alright for people who want to use public funds and public schools to push their evolutionist agendas.

He's actually quite correct. Philip Johnson and the other folks at the Discovery Institute are much better at politics and pr than they are at science, and it shows in how they choose to apply themselves.

re: #49 spirochete

Quuick, we need a grant. Get some conference space, caterers, nice hotel rooms with complimetary fruit baskets, free flights for all, pricey speakers...

Oh wait, that was my gf's mother in the education field..and she's retired and on full pension.

We have to do research in the right place. While a trip to Boston's North End might be nice, we really need to do research in Italy. Where can I get a grant?

Thy power throughout the Universe displayed.

re: #50 Dianna

Would you care to explain that statement?

So far as I am aware, there is no such thing as an "evolutionist."

sure, an evolutionist is someone who believes that evolution and the orgin of life are entirely naturalistic and supported by emprical evidence and the scientific method, but they have never observed in a testable fashion any creature changing from one species into another.

re: #42 stretch

You're just completely disconnected from reality aren't you?

re: #42 stretch

This guy is going right for the conspiracy theories and demagoguery. I am on guard alright for people who want to use public funds and public schools to push their evolutionist agendas.

Here come the creationists.

re: #56 Kosh's Shadow

We have to do research in the right place. While a trip to Boston's North End might be nice, we really need to do research in Italy. Where can I get a grant?

[Link: stupidcelebrities.net...]

re: #60 Charles

Here come the creationists.

Creating negative Karma. -642

re: #58 stretch

sure, an evolutionist is someone who believes that evolution and the orgin of life are entirely naturalistic and supported by emprical evidence and the scientific method, but they have never observed in a testable fashion any creature changing from one species into another.

Have creationists observed in a testable fashion what they claim to be true?

re: #58 stretch

So, essentially, you want us to rehash the last six months of debate?

No.

I will wait, and watch someone with infinite patience - such as Salamantis - repeat all the arguments, while you sputter and quibble and raise irrelevant objections.

re: #63 traderjoe9

Have creationists observed in a testable fashion what they claim to be true?

Well, they couldn't, you know. It all occurred before anyone could test.

I should also add that I think the DI's approach of trying to introduce an alternative to humanism in the public schools is pointless. The only problem with public school is that it is still free for those who could afford to pay their own way. Once all the freeloaders are kicked out, or required to pay their own way, they will pay much more attention to what their kids are "learning".

re: #63 traderjoe9

Have creationists observed in a testable fashion what they claim to be true?

gmta!

re: #60 Charles

Here come the creationists.

i'm just one guy, promise

Got one in the box already, I see...

re: #58 stretch

sure, an evolutionist is someone who believes that evolution and the orgin of life are entirely naturalistic and supported by emprical evidence and the scientific method, but they have never observed in a testable fashion any creature changing from one species into another.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats bullshit:

Lizards Rapidly Evolve After Introduction to Island

Italian wall lizards introduced to a tiny island off the coast of Croatia are evolving in ways that would normally take millions of years to play out, new research shows.

In just a few decades the 5-inch-long (13-centimeter-long) lizards have developed a completely new gut structure, larger heads, and a harder bite, researchers say.

In 1971, scientists transplanted five adult pairs of the reptiles from their original island home in Pod Kopiste to the tiny neighboring island of Pod Mrcaru, both in the south Adriatic Sea.

Genetic testing on the Pod Mrcaru lizards confirmed that the modern population of more than 5,000 Italian wall lizards are all descendants of the original ten lizards left behind in the 1970s.

SCIENCE!

Thoughts on stretch:

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

re: #66 stretch

we pay taxes that go to the public school...the only free loaders are those that don't pay taxes

re: #63 traderjoe9

Have creationists observed in a testable fashion what they claim to be true?

Are you saying that creation and evolution are on equal footing in backing up in a testable fashion what they claim? that's a very intriguing response to the post. Evolution should stand on its own, whether there are alternatives or not.

re: #66 stretch

Public schools ain't free....not if you're a property owner.

re: #70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think the objection there is going to be "well, that's still a lizard, it hasn't changed into a bird or a fish."

re: #66 stretch

I'm trying to figure out where to start on that statement, and there's just soooo much. For one thing, you clearly have no idea of the actual history or philosophy of the public education system.

re: #65 Dianna

Well, they couldn't, you know. It all occurred before anyone could test.

I'm no biologist...but I actually have heard of tests that scientists conduct with rapidly reproducing animals like fruit flies that serves as proof for evolution. Anybody know anything more about this?

re: #70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

SCIENCE!

I missed the part where the lizards became a different species, no longer able to procreate with other descendents from their "ancestral lines" Could you point that part out again please?

re: #73 stretch

Are you saying that creation and evolution are on equal footing in backing up in a testable fashion what they claim? that's a very intriguing response to the post. Evolution should stand on its own, whether there are alternatives or not.

Ah...no, actually.

Evolution posits testable - though complex - hypotheses.

Creationism cannot - by its very nature - be tested.

They are not equivalent, and cannot be made to be.

re: #58 stretch

sure, an evolutionist is someone who believes that evolution and the orgin of life are entirely naturalistic and supported by emprical evidence and the scientific method, but they have never observed in a testable fashion any creature changing from one species into another.

Name one physical phenomenon that has been discovered to have a non naturalistic - ie supernatural - explanation.

re: #77 traderjoe9

So far out of my field that the instant I start linking, I'm outclassed. You'd actually do better to google on your own.

re: #74 BignJames

Public schools ain't free....not if you're a property owner.

Yeah they are, unless you want to say that private school and homeschool families should be exempt from property taxes. If you think your property taxes pay your own way, what would your standard of living be like if you had to pay for private school? THe difference would be the amount of subsidization that the taxpayers provide to you - which may make you a freeloader

re: #57 MandyManners

Said in a different way, but with the same flavor.

The unwearied sun from day to day
does his Creator's power display;
and publishes to every land
the work of an almighty hand.

Soon as the evening shades prevail,
the moon takes up the wondrous tale,
and nightly to the listening earth
repeats the story of her birth:
whilst all the stars that round her burn,
and all the planets in their turn,
confirm the tidings, as they roll
and spread the truth from pole to pole.

What though in solemn silence all
move round the dark terrestrial ball?
What though no real voice nor sound
amid their radiant orbs be found?
In reason's ear they all rejoice,
and utter forth a glorious voice;
for ever singing as they shine,
"The hand that made us is divine."

Some see science as proof of no god, and some the other way, but you have to be pretty jaded not to appreciate the wonder of it all, no matter where you stand.

re: #75 jaunte

I think the objection there is going to be "well, that's still a lizard, it hasn't changed into a bird or a fish."

In other words, the perfect example of an irrelevant quibble.

re: #73 stretch

Are you saying that creation and evolution are on equal footing in backing up in a testable fashion what they claim? that's a very intriguing response to the post. Evolution should stand on its own, whether there are alternatives or not.

mwahh?!

I've been wondering for a long time what Miller has been up too. I haven't seen a good skier movie in years.

wha?... you said KEN Miller ,,,,, oh ,, thought this was about Warren Miller ,,,, ummm,, nevahmind !

re: #78 stretch

I missed the part where the lizards became a different species, no longer able to procreate with other descendents from their "ancestral lines" Could you point that part out again please?

Irrelevant quibble!

Woot! I called it!

re: #5 reine.de.tout

Thanks. Should be now.

Sorry for going OT so soon, but I really need the help.

Thanks again!

re: #79 Dianna

Ah...no, actually.

Evolution posits testable - though complex - hypotheses.

Creationism cannot - by its very nature - be tested.

They are not equivalent, and cannot be made to be.

so back to the original statement - evolutionists believe in what they can't see, and by very nature cannot be testable: a naturalistic origin for life, and a miraculous and unknown, unobserved mechanism for one species changing into another

re: #77 traderjoe9

I'm no biologist...but I actually have heard of tests that scientists conduct with rapidly reproducing animals like fruit flies that serves as proof for evolution. Anybody know anything more about this?

I have done some reading on that. The only issue I can see is that the fruit flies are still fruit flies after the evolution or mutation process has taken place. They don't transition to some other species. That's about all I know. Which ain't much.

re: #82 stretch

I don't have kids in school....not for 20+ years...I still pay property taxes.

Ah thread, I hardly knew ye.

Praise his noodley appendage!

re: #80 Jimmah

Name one physical phenomenon that has been discovered to have a non naturalistic - ie supernatural - explanation.

if you believe in the 'big bang', then you could claim that one as being "supernatural"

re: #78 stretch

I missed the part where the lizards became a different species, no longer able to procreate with other descendents from their "ancestral lines" Could you point that part out again please?

To satisfy stretch - a dog must give birth to a giraffe, or something like that. He doesn't seem to understand that evolution is gradualistic.

re: #42 stretch

"These folks are a whole lot better at politics and public relations than they are at science, and that means that everyone who cares about science education should be on guard."

This guy is going right for the conspiracy theories and demagoguery. I am on guard alright for people who want to use public funds and public schools to push their evolutionist agendas.

I reckon you'll be pretty happy when the Islamic Creationists have teachers on public payroll!

re: #89 stretch

so back to the original statement - evolutionists believe in what they can't see, and by very nature cannot be testable: a naturalistic origin for life, and a miraculous and unknown, unobserved mechanism for one species changing into another

Simply incorrect.

This debate has been thrashed out, publicly, for the last six months. Example after example has been either a front-page post or linked in the comments or spin-offs.

Invincible ignorance has been tried. It still doesn't hold up.

re: #78 stretch

I missed the part where the lizards became a different species, no longer able to procreate with other descendents from their "ancestral lines" Could you point that part out again please?

Inability to procreate with ancestral stock is not a requirement to be considered a new species, merely that they can procreate viable offspring along their same line.

OT

4-5" Fresh snow at my house in the last 2 hours. Supposed to warm up and turn to rain soon.

re: #82 stretch

Yeah they are, unless you want to say that private school and homeschool families should be exempt from property taxes. If you think your property taxes pay your own way, what would your standard of living be like if you had to pay for private school? THe difference would be the amount of subsidization that the taxpayers provide to you - which may make you a freeloader

Private schooling is a choice....try not paying your property taxes.

re: #91 BignJames

I don't have kids in school....not for 20+ years...I still pay property taxes.

as well you should, as do i. The point still is that if you can afford to pay for something yourself, don't expect a handout, a check in the mail, or a free lunch or free schooling. Those things are for the poor.

I.Q.=Irrelevant quibble

re: #97 Dianna

Simply incorrect.

This debate has been thrashed out, publicly, for the last six months. Example after example has been either a front-page post or linked in the comments or spin-offs.

Invincible ignorance has been tried. It still doesn't hold up.

fine, show one experiment that produces life, or one that shows a species changing into another species, and I'll concede

The politics behind what Miller is describing are interesting.
I'm very curious about what their next move will be.

"If ID surrogates in Louisiana, Texas, and other states are to argue that evolution is a controversial idea with serious scientific flaws, they’ve got a problem. They know that the parents and educators backing genuine science education for American students will pick up the Dover decision and cite chapter and verse from its ringing indictment of everything that Casey and the Discover Institute stand for. They also know that state legislators and school board members will consider the legal troubles that beset Dover and decide to pass on Discovery’s persistent offers to guide them along the path of undermining evolution. In short, if Kitzmiller v. Dover stands, they’re done for.

But they can’t appeal the case — only the Dover School Board could have done that. Unfortunately for the Discovery Institute, it lost that opportunity in November of 2005, when the voters of Dover threw out their pro-ID Board and replaced it with one entirely happy with the decision that Judge Jones rendered six weeks later.

So, they’ve got only one recourse — to produce a revisionist narrative showing that the decision was flawed. Clearly they hope that their surrogates will then be able to pick up that narrative and use it to counter the scientific and legal disaster that was Kitzmiller v. Dover."

re: #101 stretch

as well you should, as do i. The point still is that if you can afford to pay for something yourself, don't expect a handout, a check in the mail, or a free lunch or free schooling. Those things are for the poor.

? gov't school is not free

re: #89 stretch

so back to the original statement - evolutionists believe in what they can't see, and by very nature cannot be testable: a naturalistic origin for life, and a miraculous and unknown, unobserved mechanism for one species changing into another

What are you talking about? Evolution has always been based on what people have seen, fossil evidence being the most prominent. You claim that earth was created in six days but did you observe that?

Are you saying people can't observe evolution today? Links have already been posted proving that studies on evolution have been conducted and proved in other species.

re: #93 nanook

His image shown with meatballs!

You are a heretic! Blasphemer!

re: #66 stretch

I should also add that I think the DI's approach of trying to introduce an alternative to humanism in the public schools is pointless. The only problem with public school is that it is still free for those who could afford to pay their own way. Once all the freeloaders are kicked out, or required to pay their own way, they will pay much more attention to what their kids are "learning".

Oh, for pity's sake. Public schools ARE FREE. No one is required to pay one bloody cent to send her kids there.

What planet are you from?

re: #89 stretch

so back to the original statement - evolutionists believe in what they can't see, and by very nature cannot be testable: a naturalistic origin for life, and a miraculous and unknown, unobserved mechanism for one species changing into another

No, sir. We believe that evolution is the explanation of the observed changes in species that best fits the evidence.

re: #74 BignJames

Public schools ain't free....not if you're a property owner.

Even renters pay!

re: #94 stretch

if you believe in the 'big bang', then you could claim that one as being "supernatural"

No, I asked you if you could supply an example of something that has been demonstrated to have a supernatural explanation. Still waiting for that.

Some people may wish to exploit the incompleteness of our understanding of the universes origin to speculate about a divine origin, that's not the same thing at all.

re: #110 MandyManners

Yep....$ale$ tax.

I had to step away for a moment. Have we come to a consensus on the pasta debacle?

and do you think the outcome will explain why Mike Huckabee has a TV show?

re: #108 MandyManners

Oh, for pity's sake. Public schools ARE FREE. No one is required to pay one bloody cent to send her kids there.

What planet are you from?

Sorry Mandy, but whether your a hoemowner (property taxes) or a renter (part of your rent goes to pay your landlords taxes) or if you buy anything (most cities/towns sales taxes go in part to the public schools) as well as everyones Fed incomd=e tax (which the feds send back to schools) PUBLIC ED is ANYTHING but "free"

re: #83 swamprat

I've never heard those lyrics before.

I was looking--for a long time tonight--for an A Cappella version of the song, the kind I grew up with. Any idea?

re: #113 ggt

Because, for "rubes" (like me) he's a likable guy?

re: #113 ggt

do you think the outcome will explain why Mike Huckabee has a TV show?

I think everyone was exhausted after the long political campaign and just wanted to be lulled to sleep.

re: #107 swamprat

His image shown with meatballs!

You are a heretic! Blasphemer!

Are you a Pastafarian, ploome?

A tomato-base purist, or will you allow a meat sauce, provided we don't depict meatballs?

re: #89 stretch

so back to the original statement - evolutionists believe in what they can't see, and by very nature cannot be testable: a naturalistic origin for life, and a miraculous and unknown, unobserved mechanism for one species changing into another

Keep on throwing out those $1.59 words, Stretch.

In another day and age, Stretch would be arguing the world is flat, the sun revolves around the earth and that sea serpents live at the edge of the world.

re: #113 ggt

I had to step away for a moment. Have we come to a consensus on the pasta debacle?

Have you been touched with his noddly appendage?

re: #108 MandyManners

Oh, for pity's sake. Public schools ARE FREE. No one is required to pay one bloody cent to send her kids there.

What planet are you from?

Planet "start a huge fight so no one notices irrelevant quibbles".

re: #113 ggt

I had to step away for a moment. Have we come to a consensus on the pasta debacle?

and do you think the outcome will explain why Mike Huckabee has a TV show?

thats easy. PAY BACK, he was by far the most easily accesable candidate for any and all Fox programs during the election

]re: #120 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It isn't? It doesn't? They don't?

re: #113 ggt

I had to step away for a moment. Have we come to a consensus on the pasta debacle?

and do you think the outcome will explain why Mike Huckabee has a TV show?

Well, they gotta make tv shows outta something....except Seinfeld.

re: #113 ggt

Not as long as those meat-ballers exist!

re: #120 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In another day and age, Stretch would be arguing the world is flat, the sun revolves around the earth and that sea serpents live at the edge of the world.

Its too bad there isn't an edge of the world, or else I'd have a simple solution for radical Islamists.

re: #103 stretch

fine, show one experiment that produces life, or one that shows a species changing into another species, and I'll concede

Why would that be needed? Going back to the issue of feathers: Do you have a explanation for the evidence that fits the facts better than evolution?

re: #89 stretch

As a Christian, you are duty bound not to bear false witness (i.e. lie) You should remember that.

Hey guys, clip and paste some of "Stretch's" clever verbiage into Google.

re: #120 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In another day and age, Stretch would be arguing the world is flat, the sun revolves around the earth and that sea serpents live at the edge of the world.

Maybe it is, and maybe it does!

re: #130 Walter L. Newton

Hey guys, clip and paste some of "Stretch's" clever verbiage into Google.

It just goes back to the Discovery Institute.

re: #116 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Because, for "rubes" (like me) he's a likable guy?

He is a likeable guy and sometimes I enjoy parts of his show, but I get these Lawrence Welk vibes when I do that just don't sit right.

re: #118 Dianna

Are you a Pastafarian, ploome?

A tomato-base purist, or will you allow a meat sauce, provided we don't depict meatballs?

*No animals were harmed in the production of this pasta*

re: #42 stretch

"These folks are a whole lot better at politics and public relations than they are at science, and that means that everyone who cares about science education should be on guard."

This guy is going right for the conspiracy theories and demagoguery. I am on guard alright for people who want to use public funds and public schools to push their evolutionist agendas.

Stretch - what exactly is the "evolutionist agenda"?
I want my funds (including the taxes I pay to support public schools, as well as the tuition I pay for a good Catholic school) to be used for education. That includes education in the currently proven and accepted scientific findings. The fact that my daughter attends a Catholic school means that she will also receive education about our faith, separate and apart from science, which is good, because our faith is just that - faith, not science, and it is strong enough to stand on its own.

It is not right (or desirable or appropriate) to "water down" science to include faith matters, nor is it right (or desirable or appropriate) to "water down" our faith by inserting it into science courses.

It would not be right (or desirable or appropriate) for public school courses to remove from parents the right and responsibility for teaching their children the faith of their choice.

re: #132 Dianna

It just goes back to the Discovery Institute.

And I need to apologize when I said "guys." All of you males, females and Zombie's are all contributors to these wonderful debates.

re: #133 ggt

He is a likeable guy and sometimes I enjoy parts of his show, but I get these Lawrence Welk vibes when I do that just don't sit right.

he creeps me out

I like turtles.

re: #133 ggt

He is a likeable guy and sometimes I enjoy parts of his show, but I get these Lawrence Welk vibes when I do that just don't sit right.

That's the point. I freaking LOVED "The Lawrence Welk" show.

Tonight (was listening, not watching) he had the AFLAC CEO on who wouldn't take a "Golden Parachute"....

...And Elvis impersonators.

Stretch,

Question for you.

I take it you believe in the Creator.

Do you believe in his Creation?

Do you believe what His Creation tells us?

So it should like you would say yes to 1&2 but no to 3.

Why would you discount what God's own creation tells us?

re: #82 stretch

Yeah they are, unless you want to say that private school and homeschool families should be exempt from property taxes. If you think your property taxes pay your own way, what would your standard of living be like if you had to pay for private school? THe difference would be the amount of subsidization that the taxpayers provide to you - which may make you a freeloader

I pay private school tuition, to the tune of about $1,000.00/month. On top of that is about $400.00/mo. in fees, gas and other costs. In no shape or form am I subsidized by the other taxpayers. In fact, considering what I pay in property taxes, I can guaranfuckingtee you that I am subsidizing many.

Now, if that didn't exactly address what you were trying to say, you might want to reframe your statement.

re: #134 ggt

Garlic and olive oil. Unreformed.

re: #138 spirochete

I like turtles.

So do I; there is something infinitely friendly and good about turtles.

re: #138 spirochete

I like turtles.

LGF unwritten rules #657. That statement must be accompanied by the link....

;-P

Stretch thinks it's bad science to look for a naturalistic explanation for biological diversity; he thinks the scientifically rigorous thing to do would be to plump for a supernatural explanation, even though the supernatural has never had an explanatory role in explaining any phenomenon. What a joke.

Still waiting, stretch.

re: #103 stretch

fine, show one experiment that produces life, or one that shows a species changing into another species, and I'll concede

Do you really believe the moronic shit you are spewing?

re: #143 Dianna

So do I; there is something infinitely friendly and good about turtles.

uh, not snapping turtles

re: #112 BignJames

Yep....$ale$ tax.

They pay it in rent. Land-owners include their property taxes in their rents.

re: #143 Dianna

So do I; there is something infinitely friendly and good about turtles.

mmmm....fried turtle.....mmmm

re: #119 MandyManners

Keep on throwing out those $1.59 words, Stretch.

don't we have a $5 minimum?

Well I finally got banned from Daily Kos...

re: #150 ggt

don't we have a $5 minimum?

Damn, all I got is two bit words.....

re: #143 Dianna

So do I; there is something infinitely friendly and good about turtles.

The most evil thing that I ever saw in person was a bully type stomping a live turtle. 40 years ago. Still haunts me.

I may be sheltered, but that was the pure face of evil to me.

re: #114 sattv4u2

Sorry Mandy, but whether your a hoemowner (property taxes) or a renter (part of your rent goes to pay your landlords taxes) or if you buy anything (most cities/towns sales taxes go in part to the public schools) as well as everyones Fed incomd=e tax (which the feds send back to schools) PUBLIC ED is ANYTHING but "free"

Whatever. You know what I mean.

re: #115 MandyManners

I've never heard those lyrics before.

I was looking--for a long time tonight--for an A Cappella version of the song, the kind I grew up with. Any idea?

No. The stuff on youtube is absolute garbage.

re: #151 traderjoe9

Well I finally got banned from Daily Kos...

Let me guess...
Israel is justified in defending itself..... or something on those lines.

re: #148 MandyManners

They pay it in rent. Land-owners include their property taxes in their rents.

yep, too.

re: #151 traderjoe9

Well I finally got banned from Daily Kos...

How long did that take you?
Whatever the answer is, how have you changed? Are you enlightened?

re: #120 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

In another day and age, Stretch would be arguing the world is flat, the sun revolves around the earth and that sea serpents live at the edge of the world.

THERE BE DRAGONS!

re: #121 jcm

Have you been touched with his noddly appendage?

Oh, I certainly hope not. If I was, it was back when I was drinking and I don't remember.

I hope that won't count against me when I meet St. Peter at the Pearly Gates ™

re: #122 Dianna

Planet "start a huge fight so no one notices irrelevant quibbles".

Hamas has another galaxy?

OK, I'm confused. What part of creationism theory should I hate? The Islamic one, the Christian evangelistic one, the Intelligent design one or do I just support that evolutionist one that states man is no more special than a monkey scratching its butt with Uncle Bobo and Aunt Peanut jumping on Samsonite luggage? /s

OT, what's the best way to ignore 1/20/09?

Gordy Slack wrote a very readable account of the Dover trial that I strongly recommend to anyone interested in this subject:
The Battle Over the Meaning of Everything: Evolution, Intelligent Design, and a School Board in Dover, PA
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I once saw a huge turtle on a highway get run over by a semi. Big pink cloud.

re: #145 Jimmah

Stretch thinks it's bad science to look for a naturalistic explanation for biological diversity; he thinks the scientifically rigorous thing to do would be to plump for a supernatural explanation, even though the supernatural has never had an explanatory role in explaining any phenomenon. What a joke.

Still waiting, stretch.

and in my opinion, in doing this, Stretch is insulting God by rejecting the intelligence and sense and ability to think logically that God gave us to figure out this wonderful and beautiful and incredibly complex world He gave us.

re: #164 spirochete

yuck

I'm gonna go off on this bunny trail right here. My wife put together some songs for our 2 year old son to listen to at bedtime. I had not heard this song until I heard that cd. Here is one of the songs.

Billy Joel - Lullabye (Goodnight, My Angel)

Maybe this can lighten this thread up a little.

re: #162 badger1970

OK, I'm confused. What part of creationism theory should I hate? The Islamic one, the Christian evangelistic one, the Intelligent design one or do I just support that evolutionist one that states man is no more special than a monkey scratching its butt with Uncle Bobo and Aunt Peanut jumping on Samsonite luggage? /s

OT, what's the best way to ignore 1/20/09?

Get busy and jump on your luggage on 1-20-2009.

re: #151 traderjoe9

Well I finally got banned from Daily Kos...

Yipppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's the point. I freaking LOVED "The Lawrence Welk" show.

Tonight (was listening, not watching) he had the AFLAC CEO on who wouldn't take a "Golden Parachute"....

...And Elvis impersonators.

I think it was the Elvis impersonators that creeped me out tonite. There is always something.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Huckabee --although not for POTUS. or a TV host.

re: #156 jcm

Let me guess...
Israel is justified in defending itself..... or something on those lines.

You mean what I said to get banned?

I was very polite for a couple days...but today I just snapped.

re: #164 spirochete

I don't even pause if I hit a critter. I would avoid doing so at all costs, so I do not feel guilty if a squirrel runs in front of my car while I am doing fifty miles an hour.

I would wish death upon someone who would swerve to hit one though.

re: #155 swamprat

No. The stuff on youtube is absolute garbage.

I've looked for stuff from Freed Hardeman to no avail.

re: #142 swamprat

Garlic and olive oil. Unreformed.

How much garlic?

re: #168 Walter L. Newton

Get busy and jump on your luggage on 1-20-2009.

that was f'n funny

re: #158 jwb7605

How long did that take you?
Whatever the answer is, how have you changed? Are you enlightened?

Its been three days and three diaries to my banning. I haven't changed my views at all - liberals are still idiots.

re: #170 ggt

Elvis impersonators......they should form a union.

re: #164 spirochete

I once saw a huge turtle on a highway get run over by a semi. Big pink cloud.

Dude, not funny. Sorry, but -1.

re: #151 traderjoe9

Well I finally got banned from Daily Kos...

Well, i made sure it was good for your karma!

re: #175 phoenixgirl

that was f'n funny

Thanx's

re: #171 traderjoe9

You mean what I said to get banned?

I was very polite for a couple days...but today I just snapped.

Two days? You last TWO DAYS!
I bow to greatness!

I would last a few minutes at most.

What did you say?

re: #152 jcm

Damn, all I got is two bit words.....

Save them up, eventually you'll have enuf!

re: #162 badger1970

OK, I'm confused. What part of creationism theory should I hate? The Islamic one, the Christian evangelistic one, the Intelligent design one or do I just support that evolutionist one that states man is no more special than a monkey scratching its butt with Uncle Bobo and Aunt Peanut jumping on Samsonite luggage? /s

OT, what's the best way to ignore 1/20/09?

You don't have to "hate" anything. Just use the brains God gave you!

re: #177 BignJames

Uh-Huh Local 3764? TCB Local 3764?

re: #179 ggt

Well, i made sure it was good for your karma!

Thanks!

If anybody is interested, this was the diary that got me banned.

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

re: #159 MandyManners

THERETHAAAAAAR BE DRAGONS!

fixed-that for ya!

re: #181 jcm

Two days? You last TWO DAYS!
I bow to greatness!

I would last a few minutes at most.

What did you say?

I said: "Why are you idiots hiding my comments? Are you afraid you'll learn something?"

re: #183 MandyManners

You don't have to "hate" anything. Just use the brains God gave you!

But, I do hate liver.

re: #162 badger1970

OK, I'm confused. What part of creationism theory should I hate? The Islamic one, the Christian evangelistic one, the Intelligent design one or do I just support that evolutionist one that states man is no more special than a monkey scratching its butt with Uncle Bobo and Aunt Peanut jumping on Samsonite luggage?

Do Judaism and Christianity not teach humility ie that man is an insignificant speck in the grand scheme of God's plan?

re: #162 badger1970
go with the great mandella (the large vessel)
hate them all

re: #187 traderjoe9

I said: "Why are you idiots hiding my comments? Are you afraid you'll learn something?"

Whoa, that was really strong. It's no wonder you got banned. I hope you didn't hurt anyone's feelings?
/

re: #168 Walter L. Newton

Point, set, match.

re: #189 Spare O'Lake

I do not think that they teach that at all.

re: #184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Uh-Huh Local 3764? TCB Local 3764?

Yep, must all be "Jumpsuit Elvises"....or is that Elvi?

I'm guessing Stench has retreated to DI to dig up more talking points and sound bites.

OT
Obama Losing Credibility with World with his Silence on Gaza

Man, talk about setting your expectations waaaay to high...it will be quite enjoyable watching the rest of the world (along with the Democrat leftwing) meltdown when they finally realize Obama is nothing more than an all talk no action empty suit......

re: #191 Walter L. Newton

Whoa, that was really strong. It's no wonder you got banned. I hope you didn't hurt anyone's feelings?
/

To be honest, I was extremely polite for the first two days. It sort of started pissing me off though when their only responses to my diaries was "bs propaganda." Look at the link I posted...I published it at 8:14 and the guy responded at 8:16 with "propaganda." He didn't even read the article!

re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I do not think that they teach that at all.

at least not in the way that I understand it. I've heard that idea taught, but I do not think it is truly what Scriptures intended to teach.

re: #195 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm guessing Stench has retreated to DI to dig up more talking points and sound bites.

I say that if he comes back we should spellbind him with our GAZE.

re: #189 Spare O'Lake

Do Judaism and Christianity not teach humility ie that man is an insignificant speck in the grand scheme of God's plan?

True, but like most scriptural things it's a duality. All of creation was made for man. While we are insignificant, we are so the most important thing in God's creation scripturally speaking.

re: #174 ggt

You shall not trap me, bigot!

re: #143 Dianna

I am all-the-way down with turtles.

re: #178 Dark_Falcon

Dude, not funny. Sorry, but -1.

Hey, it was traumatic for me, too, I was young. Just passing along the experience. Didn't think I'd get someone's karma in a wad.

re: #195 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm guessing Stench has retreated to DI to dig up more talking points and sound bites.

*snif*

He hurt my feelings by not answering my question.

*snif*

//

re: #196 Desert Dog

OT
Obama Losing Credibility with World with his Silence on Gaza

Man, talk about setting your expectations waaaay to high...it will be quite enjoyable watching the rest of the world (along with the Democrat leftwing) meltdown when they finally realize Obama is nothing more than an all talk no action empty suit......

All I know is if he doesnt turn water into wine as his inauguration, there is going to be hell to pay!

re: #165 reine.de.tout

and in my opinion, in doing this, Stretch is insulting God by rejecting the intelligence and sense and ability to think logically that God gave us to figure out this wonderful and beautiful and incredibly complex world He gave us.

If some kind of god does exist, he doesn't interfere with the day to day running of the universe, that much is clear.

re: #196 Desert Dog

OT
Obama Losing Credibility with World with his Silence on Gaza

Man, talk about setting your expectations waaaay to high...it will be quite enjoyable watching the rest of the world (along with the Democrat leftwing) meltdown when they finally realize Obama is nothing more than an all talk no action empty suit......

What did people expect from a man whose signature tactic was voting 'present'?

re: #197 traderjoe9

To be honest, I was extremely polite for the first two days. It sort of started pissing me off though when their only responses to my diaries was "bs propaganda." Look at the link I posted...I published it at 8:14 and the guy responded at 8:16 with "propaganda." He didn't even read the article!

You realize my comment to you was sarcasm? I was being funny, not questioning you in the least.

re: #196 Desert Dog

OT
Obama Losing Credibility with World with his Silence on Gaza

Man, talk about setting your expectations waaaay to high...it will be quite enjoyable watching the rest of the world (along with the Democrat leftwing) meltdown when they finally realize Obama is nothing more than an all talk no action empty suit......

I'm hoping they survive the realization that he is just flesh and bones.

re: #205 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I saw that too. I am not looking forward to the day when he will be speaking for us, but it is coming nevertheless.x

I pray that he is wise.

re: #196 Desert Dog

OT
Obama Losing Credibility with World with his Silence on Gaza

Man, talk about setting your expectations waaaay to high...it will be quite enjoyable watching the rest of the world (along with the Democrat leftwing) meltdown when they finally realize Obama is nothing more than an all talk no action empty suit......

Its been a week and the only thing Obama has said was "there is one president at a time." You would think he could reiterate what the Bush Administration said and back up Israels right to defend itself...but he did no such thing. I'm afraid that come January 20th Israel will lose its only friend in the international scene, and the U.S will stop objecting to obscene UN resolutions like they did just recently.

re: #203 spirochete

Hey, it was traumatic for me, too, I was young. Just passing along the experience. Didn't think I'd get someone's karma in a wad.

Sorry, I did not understand. The rating is being reversed.

re: #201 swamprat

You shall not trap me, bigot!

ROTFLAMO!

re: #107 swamprat

His image shown with meatballs!

You are a heretic! Blasphemer!

As my pirate regalia is at the cleaners, I cannot teach you the true ways of the FSM. I refer you to the sacred Webpage: [Link: www.venganza.org...]

His noodley-ness is always portrayed with his Meatballs displayed. You must be an apostate Pastafarian!

re: #210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I saw that too. I am not looking forward to the day when he will be speaking for us, but it is coming nevertheless.x

I pray that he is wise.

I'm praying for basic fucking competence, but I think thats going to be too much to ask for.

re: #206 Jimmah

If some kind of god does exist, he doesn't interfere with the day to day running of the universe, that much is clear.

I don't know about that -- it's the greatest mystery of all!

re: #129 MrPaulRevere

Maybe my comment at #89 scared him off. I bet he didn't even go to church today, he was probably sleeping one off.

re: #174 ggt

How much garlic?

Well, I can admit it. Lots and lots.

re: #215 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Maybe if I write him, he can tell me where that damn "x" in my comment came from.

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

You realize my comment to you was sarcasm? I was being funny, not questioning you in the least.

Don't worry, I realized that.

PIMF: My comment at #129

re: #162 badger1970

Anyone who equates "common ancestor" to "just the same as", thereby ignoring man's conceptual faculty, is just a misanthrope. So are you saying that you need to believe in the supernatural to love humanity?

re: #214 nanook

As my pirate regalia is at the cleaners, I cannot teach you the true ways of the FSM. I refer you to the sacred Webpage: [Link: www.venganza.org...]

His noodley-ness is always portrayed with his Meatballs displayed. You must be an apostate Pastafarian!

Meatballs! gah

It always goes back to size with some people.

;0

re: #218 swamprat

Well, I can admit it. Lots and lots.

I knew you were one of the good ones!

re: #183 MandyManners

You don't have to "hate" anything. Just use the brains God gave you!

Nice and succinct.

Two virtues make a theory great:
(1) the theory explains a broad and deep mystery; and
(2) the theory is broader and deeper than even the mystery itself, and so leads to a greater truth.

The theory of adaptation by natural selection is a great theory.

re: #214 nanook

I think the graph of 'number of pirates versus the average global temperature' needs updating. The recent Somali festivities should bring the temps down in the near future.
[Link: www.venganza.org...]

re: #219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Maybe if I write him, he can tell me where that damn "x" in my comment came from.

You've been drinking again?

re: #209 ggt

Why?
/

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, I did not understand. The rating is being reversed.

No sweat.

Sleepy time tea is all gone. Time to hit the sack.

Nite to all.

re: #228 Walter L. Newton

You've been drinking again?

Well. Uh. Yeah.

Damn, you're magical.

You Obama?

re: #228 Walter L. Newton

You've been drinking again still ?

re: #229 Dan G.

Why?
/

Just think what the carnage and funeral costs would cost we the taxpayers.

/

re: #227 jaunte

re: #227 jaunte

I think the graph of 'number of pirates versus the average global temperature' needs updating. The recent Somali festivities should bring the temps down in the near future.
[Link: www.venganza.org...]

You have noticed the recent cold snap, haven't you?

Hey y'all - sorry to be late to the party, again. What are we talking about at this stage in this thread?!

OT

Damn, it's 12 degrees outside.

re: #206 Jimmah

If some kind of god does exist, he doesn't interfere with the day to day running of the universe, that much is clear.

In my world, He does. We may not see open miracles of any sort, but they exist. At least they do in Israel...

re: #235 realwest

Hey y'all - sorry to be late to the party, again. What are we talking about at this stage in this thread?!

RW! Glad you are here. How do you take your pasta?

re: #236 Walter L. Newton

OT

Damn, it's 12 degrees outside.

why are you outside?

Baby turtles at Zooborns!

[Link: zooborns.typepad.com...]

re: #235 realwest

Hey y'all - sorry to be late to the party, again. What are we talking about at this stage in this thread?!

Pirates and noodly appendages!

Have you been touched?

re: #236 Walter L. Newton

OT

Damn, it's 12 degrees outside.

Walter, we've been having a virtual indiana summer here in Near Iowa. I got to, I think, 35 degrees today. But the wind was nasty.

re: #231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well. Uh. Yeah. Damn, you're magical.
You Obama?

Ha, I've been on LGF for more than 4 years. I use to sit here totally smashed. I refuse to go back and even look at any of my archived comments in fear that I will be terribly embarrassed.

I am honestly sad for the ones who have (in their minds) lifted BHO to Deity status. They are going to be very disappointed.

I've seen and heard what they are expecting. They are not folks who can take disappointment well.

re: #207 Dark_Falcon

Do you solemnly swear (or affirm) that you will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of your ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States?

Present.

re: #242 ggt

Walter, we've been having a virtual indiana summer here in Near Iowa. I got to, I think, 35 degrees today. But the wind was nasty.

You better see a doctor, Shouldn;t you be in the mid to high 90's ?

re: #245 itellu3times

Present.

LOL!

re: #242 ggt

It has snowed again in Portland. I have nothing good to say about the snow, so I shall say nothing at all.

re: #216 ggt

I don't know about that -- it's the greatest mystery of all!

Universal physical laws - you can believe god is ultimately responsible for them, and still accept that they describe everything we observe. But to suggest that god actually interferes in the universe means that those laws do not apply universally and have to be divinely leapfrogged to arrive at what we see - example: 'intelligent design'.

re: #243 Walter L. Newton

Ha, I've been on LGF for more than 4 years. I use to sit here totally smashed. I refuse to go back and even look at any of my archived comments in fear that I will be terribly embarrassed.

or that they'll make more sense than these do!

re: #240 EmmmieG

Baby turtles at Zooborns!

[Link: zooborns.typepad.com...]

awwww!

Did you see the baby jaguars today? The spots are good camo!

re: #236 Walter L. Newton

OT

Damn, it's 12 degrees outside.

The answer is no...

re: #239 sattv4u2

why are you outside?

Maisey the Parrot froze on the window sill. I had to chip her off.

re: #236 Walter L. Newton

OT

Damn, it's 12 degrees outside.

Celsius, Farenheit or Kelvin?

re: #246 sattv4u2