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1 Truck Monkey  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:44:51pm

Damn Insomnia.

2 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:45:29pm

Reality is what trolls, trollops, and moby's choose to ignore. It doesn't seem to fit in with their world view.

/takes an extra serving of reality.

3 slokat  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:45:48pm

...plus reality exists before it is discovered.

4 BignJames  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:47:14pm

Reality....kinda' like gravity....always there.

5 Mel Lono  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:48:36pm

almost dead thread there, damn forgot the tag. BRB

6 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:49:42pm

Yeah, looks like it's going to be slow for the rest of the night. Saw a whole bunch of lizards bailing just as this thread came open.

7 shanec99  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:49:53pm

re: #4 BignJames

Reality....kinda' like gravity....always there.

yeah like that boil on my ass... kind of there, and it constantly reminds me in a most unpleasant way. Gotta get it lanced and drained.

8 SurferDoc  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:50:57pm

Yawwwwn! Hey! Hiya, NightLizards!

9 jcm  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:51:47pm

Reality.... bites.

10 BignJames  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:51:50pm

re: #7 shanec99

yeah like that boil on my ass... kind of there, and it constantly reminds me in a most unpleasant way. Gotta get it lanced and drained.

Nah....you're thinkin' Billy Mays.

11 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:52:40pm

Morning SurferDoc. Standard entry today?

/either that or someone locked the windows again.

12 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:53:02pm

re: #9 jcm

Reality.... bites.

Indeed.

/but then again, the One is gonna make everything wonderful.

13 shanec99  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:53:12pm

Hamas is getting an opportunity to deal with a reality my ole granny shared with us when we were little, she used to say:"stupid people with hard heads, always end up with a sore ass."

14 SurferDoc  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:53:35pm

re: #11 BlueCanuck

Morning SurferDoc. Standard entry today?

/either that or someone locked the windows again.

Too tired for fancy entrances tonight. How are you doing, Blue?

15 zombie  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:53:58pm

Hahahahahahaha -- ha?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

A person close to me, who is an unrepentant moonbat, recently bragged about how they signed up with a new cell phone company, one with the following amazing features:

1. It was incredibly inexpensive, with a special all-calls-for-one-low-price deal.
2. It was a nonprofit which donated all proceeds to proogressive causes!

What could be better for the guilt-ridden wannabe Luddite moonbat?

I was curious about this new company which I had never heard of before, and they told me the name at the time, but it slipped my mind, and I never looked into it.

Well, I just had another talk with this person, and they were in shock! Because they got their first monthly bill from the company, and it was astronomical! Turns out the fine print tooketh away, and they didn't notice some detail about areas codes or whatever, and instead of their monthly cell phone bill being one low all-in-one price, it was multiple hundreds of dollars. Furthermore, the company was just re-selling and repackaging Sprint minutes. In other words, the company was a bait-and-switch scheme, not an real phone company.

But when the person showed me the actual physical bill that came in the mail, my eyes popped out of their sockets. Not at the amount of the bill (which was bad enough), but at the company logo/design at the top of the bill. Can you guess what it was? Ready?

The Abu Ghraib hooded prisoner!

It was, like, the logo of the company! (At least on their bills.) As if the Abu Ghraib hooded man summed up the entire moonbat belief system.

This time I noted the name of the company, and just this minute looked up who they donate the profits to. And here's the list:

Credo Mobile: This year's causes.

Included on the list are:

Iraq Veterans Against the War
AlterNet
Media Matters
National Center for Lesbian Rights
Rock the Vote
...and any number of predictable leftist groups.

While in general I support any scheme which separates a foolish moonbat from his money, in this instance the money is being scammed out of unwitting sucker moonbats and given to...other moonbats?!?!

Like I said, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Having been apprised of the details, what emotion do you think I should have about this?

16 slokat  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:55:15pm

re: #12 Pvt Bin Jammin

The One will make everything One-derful?

17 SurferDoc  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:56:23pm

Laugh, it is very funny.

18 Kragar  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:56:26pm

re: #15 zombie

If it makes you feel any better, the guys are probably taking most of the money for themselves

19 shanec99  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:56:40pm

re: #10 BignJames

Nah....you're thinkin' Billy Mays.


The Arabs who live in the Gaza (I refuse to call them Palestinians) are like a inflamed boil on the world's ass. Annoying, painful and contribute nothing to the overall comfort of person enduring their presence.

20 jcm  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:56:42pm

re: #12 Pvt Bin Jammin

Indeed.

/but then again, the One is gonna make everything wonderful.

Fruit cups for everyone!

21 slokat  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:57:08pm

re: #15 zombie

Envy of the sheer audacity...

22 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:57:53pm

re: #14 SurferDoc

Doing alright. Rested and relaxed for the next little while at least (read: till tomorrow night's work shift :p). Actuall looking forward to the coming year. Probably be going to two reunions the way things stand.

23 shanec99  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:59:28pm

re: #15 zombie

Hahahahahahaha -- ha?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

A person close to me, who is an unrepentant moonbat, recently bragged about how they signed up with a new cell phone company, one with the following amazing features:

1. It was incredibly inexpensive, with a special all-calls-for-one-low-price deal.
2. It was a nonprofit which donated all proceeds to proogressive causes!

What could be better for the guilt-ridden wannabe Luddite moonbat?

I was curious about this new company which I had never heard of before, and they told me the name at the time, but it slipped my mind, and I never looked into it.

Well, I just had another talk with this person, and they were in shock! Because they got their first monthly bill from the company, and it was astronomical! Turns out the fine print tooketh away, and they didn't notice some detail about areas codes or whatever, and instead of their monthly cell phone bill being one low all-in-one price, it was multiple hundreds of dollars. Furthermore, the company was just re-selling and repackaging Sprint minutes. In other words, the company was a bait-and-switch scheme, not an real phone company.

But when the person showed me the actual physical bill that came in the mail, my eyes popped out of their sockets. Not at the amount of the bill (which was bad enough), but at the company logo/design at the top of the bill. Can you guess what it was? Ready?

The Abu Ghraib hooded prisoner!

It was, like, the logo of the company! (At least on their bills.) As if the Abu Ghraib hooded man summed up the entire moonbat belief system.

This time I noted the name of the company, and just this minute looked up who they donate the profits to. And here's the list:

Credo Mobile: This year's causes.

Included on the list are:

Iraq Veterans Against the War
AlterNet
Media Matters
National Center for Lesbian Rights
Rock the Vote
...and any number of predictable leftist groups.

While in general I support any scheme which separates a foolish moonbat from his money, in this instance the money is being scammed out of unwitting sucker moonbats and given to...other moonbats?!?!

Like I said, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Having been apprised of the details, what emotion do you think I should have about this?


I simply love it, Moonbats defrauding and misleading each other.

24 zombie  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:59:33pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

If it makes you feel any better, the guys are probably taking most of the money for themselves

Oh good, that does make me feel better.

As long as the money is being properly stolen, and not actually donated to commie groups, then I'm happy.

25 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jan 4, 2009 11:59:43pm

re: #15 zombie

Laugh, at the sheer idiocy. Cry for the hopeless people suckered into such schemes. In times like this a company that snares a person into exorbiant fees should be held up as an example. But as in all things caveat emptor.

26 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:00:12am

re: #20 jcm
Fruit cups give me the runs.

27 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:01:00am

re: #20 jcm

Fruit cups for everyone!

OMG Free fruit?! I might be able to afford Zombie's friend's phone company now that I'm going to be getting all of that free stuff but I am kind of ticked off that the ACLU was not on the list./

28 zombie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:02:21am

re: #21 slokat

Envy of the sheer audacity...

P.T. Barnum would be proud, I'm sure! I'm reminded of the film "The Rainmaker," or a traveling tent revival -- relieving the rubes of their grubby cash.

Except in this instance, the rubes imagine themselves to be sophisticated radicals.

29 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:02:37am

re: #27 Pvt Bin Jammin

Maybe they will do a write in request? After all the ACLU has made many important contributions to Constitutional and legal precedents.

/*choke* *gag*

30 Summersong  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:02:54am

re: #26 shanec99

Fruit cups give me the runs.

TMI. Seriously.

31 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:03:44am

re: #30 Summersong

TMI. Seriously.


OK... they cause me enteritis... is that better?

32 Kragar  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:03:49am

re: #28 zombie

P.T. Barnum would be proud, I'm sure! I'm reminded of the film "The Rainmaker," or a traveling tent revival -- relieving the rubes of their grubby cash.

Except in this instance, the rubes imagine themselves to be sophisticated radicals.

Which makes them the easiest targets of all.

33 Summersong  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:03:51am

Good night, LGF.

34 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:04:38am

re: #29 BlueCanuck

ROTFLMAO
Ya think ACORN could get it on it too? I wouldn't doubt it.

35 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:06:53am

re: #33 Summersong

Nite. Have a great day.

Have you been having those spiked fruit cups? Sorry, I left some spiked stuff a couple of nights.

36 traderjoe9  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:08:10am

Good night!

37 Kragar  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:09:56am

Zombie

A little digging turns out the cellphone company is under the same management as a credit card company, WorkingAssests

38 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:10:13am

re: #36 traderjoe9

Nite. Have a good one.

39 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:11:47am

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Zombie

A little digging turns out the cellphone company is under the same management as a credit card company, WorkingAssests

Oh my, something fun to investigate!

40 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:12:52am

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Zombie

WorkingAssests

and who they support...
a who's who of moonbats, leftists, Marxists, and Anti-Americans.

41 Kragar  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:13:41am

re: #39 Pvt Bin Jammin

Oh my, something fun to investigate!

Like the 2008 Campaign contributions of its CEO?

Laura Scher
Political Campaign Contributions
2008 Election Cycle

42 zombie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:14:39am

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Zombie

A little digging turns out the cellphone company is under the same management as a credit card company, WorkingAssests

Ah, them.

I always thought they had one too many letters in their company name. There's an extraneous "t". It should be:

Working Asses

43 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:15:21am

re: #24 zombie

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]

44 zombie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:15:24am

re: #40 jcm

and who they support...
a who's who of moonbats, leftists, Marxists, and Anti-Americans.

Same list as the cell phone scam.

45 thefarmer  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:16:12am

Reality is...
Roland Burris should be seated as Senator, despite what Harry says he has the right to do.
I wish we could have a special election, as most called for, but when they realized a Rep might win guess that went out the window.
Now play it straight, by the rules Harry, give IL a vote and seat Rolly!

I'm LMAO at this. Obama came from this mess and it will haunt him.

From IL outside of Chitown,
T

46 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:16:55am

re: #15 zombie

It seems like the owner of that company, Laura Scher, is dodging several campaign finance reform laws by giving $8,900 to Barack Obama

47 Kragar  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:19:05am

re: #46 Neo Con since 9-11

It seems like the owner of that company, Laura Scher, is dodging several campaign finance reform laws by giving $8,900 to Barack Obama

She also apparently is a HuffPo contributor

48 zombie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:20:51am

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Like the 2008 Campaign contributions of its CEO?

Laura Scher
Political Campaign Contributions
2008 Election Cycle

Hmmm, Obama and Al Franken. I'm shocked, I tell you.

But more interesting than that -- she lives in freakin' Belvedere! ! !

For those not familiar with the San Francisco Bay Area: Belvedere is one of the most expensive and exclusive cites in the entire country. Makes Beverly Hills or Bel Air look like slums. It's a tiny enclave of mansions on a private gated peninsula in San Francisco Bay, in Marin Country. Each mansion is tens of millions of dollars, at least.

Generally, only billionaires live there.

Laura Scher must be raking in the cash from these "progressive nonprofits"!

49 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:21:42am

re: #48 zombie

When have you ever known a leftist NOT make money of the gullible?

50 Kragar  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:22:21am
51 zombie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:22:55am

re: #43 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]

Good find! Excellent digging.

What a sickening list of recipients. The fact that these groups are all funded by willing moonbats make all moonbats culpable for these groups' ill-intentioned deeds.

52 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:25:16am

re: #51 zombie

ACLU mentioned in beginning, ACORN on the list. I'll dig into it tomorrow if I can spare an hour or two. This is most interesting.

53 SurferDoc  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:26:03am

I love the irony. She's a bit of a lefty luminary and she is ripping them off. Nice.

54 Kragar  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:27:10am

On a lighter note, I present "Escape 2000", a cheezy italian movie starring Henry Silva and various nonames. Remember "You are ordered to leave the Bronx!"

55 zombie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:28:32am

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Apparently so;

CNN Money: How to Succeed in 2007: Laura Scher, Chairman and CEO, Working Assets

How in the world do these nonprofits justify paying exorbitant salaries to their CEOs?!? Doesn't anybody complain? They should be volunteers, not paid executives.

What a total scam. The entire nonprofit sector is one vast scam, if you ask me. A way to fleece fools in order to, on one hand, provide stipends for do-nothing trustafarians ("Mom! I got a part-time internship at Radical Dykes Against Hate!"), and at the same time a way for high-end hucksters to line their pockets.

Un-freakin'-believable.

56 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:28:55am

Nite all...

If I want to continue WORKING, I need to be an ASSET to my company tomorrow.

57 zombie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:30:33am

re: #56 jcm

Nite all...

If I want to continue WORKING, I need to be an ASSET to my company tomorrow.

What? You work to earn a salary?

What are you -- some cog in the capitalist machine?

58 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:30:52am

re: #56 jcm

Nite. Stay warm up there.

59 nature boy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:30:59am

re: #19 shanec99

The Arabs who live in the Gaza (I refuse to call them Palestinians) are like a inflamed boil on the world's ass. Annoying, painful and contribute nothing to the overall comfort of person enduring their presence.

You might also call them a third armpit, whatever annoys you more...

60 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:34:10am

re: #55 zombie

I have noticed that most charitiable organizations seem to have huge payroll costs. I know my mom won't give a dime to the Salvation Army in her town. It seems the past few "Captains" have come in and totally redecorated their living spaces and office. Usually at great cost. I know that I won't give any money to the Red Cross because almost 60 cents out of every dollar seems to go to "administration" expenses. Just doesn't sound right to me.

61 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:36:08am

re: #60 BlueCanuck

That is so sick. I've done volunteer work all my life. Never asked for or expected a dime. It's something we should do from the heart.

62 Kragar  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:38:54am

re: #60 BlueCanuck

I have noticed that most charitiable organizations seem to have huge payroll costs. I know my mom won't give a dime to the Salvation Army in her town. It seems the past few "Captains" have come in and totally redecorated their living spaces and office. Usually at great cost. I know that I won't give any money to the Red Cross because almost 60 cents out of every dollar seems to go to "administration" expenses. Just doesn't sound right to me.

Its why I live by the motto "Charity begins at home" and it doesnt go out much.

63 zombie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:40:50am

re: #61 Pvt Bin Jammin

That is so sick. I've done volunteer work all my life. Never asked for or expected a dime. It's something we should do from the heart.

To the average young moonbat, "volunteer"ing at various leftwing activist nonprofits is actually the now-standard careeer path. Groups like Working Assets and individuals like Soros keep enough money flowing into the moonbat ecosystem that entire categories of people can spend their lives "earning" enough money to live comfortably by being paid to goof around being asshole radicals under the aegis of these various nonprofits groups. None of whom have ever produced a single thing.

64 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:42:16am

/Reporter Fail

65 zombie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:43:28am

And, at the end of the day, it's gullible fools like "the person close to me" mentioned in my original comment #15 above who are footing the bill, either out of naivité or Hoffer-esque True-Believerdom.

66 Kragar  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:43:38am

re: #64 Killian Bundy



/Reporter Fail

I wonder what she was thinking about at the time?

67 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:44:57am

Poor bambi.
//

"But evidence is mounting that Obama is already losing ground among key Arab and Muslim audiences that cannot understand why, given his promise of change, he has not spoken out. Arab commentators and editorialists say there is growing disappointment at Obama's detachment - and that his failure to distance himself from George Bush's strongly pro-Israeli stance is encouraging the belief that he either shares Bush's bias or simply does not care."

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

68 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:45:31am

re: #63 zombie

To the average young moonbat, "volunteer"ing at various leftwing activist nonprofits is actually the now-standard careeer path. Groups like Working Assets and individuals like Soros keep enough money flowing into the moonbat ecosystem that entire categories of people can spend their lives "earning" enough money to live comfortably by being paid to goof around being asshole radicals under the aegis of these various nonprofits groups. None of whom have ever produced a single thing.

I can't say that I'm really not surprised, just wishing there were more people who were like us. Through the 35 or more years that I have volunteered I have most definately backed away from a few. When and if it gets political, I'm gone.

69 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:48:00am

Nite kids, take care. Oranges on the sidebar if LOL is not back yet.

70 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:50:19am

re: #59 nature boy

You might also call them a third armpit, whatever annoys you more...


An armpit is at least useful, the brachial plexus (a bundle of nerve that ends up innervating the upper extremity) passes through there. An inflamed boil on the bottox is second only to a pilonidal cyst in the order of annoyingly painful aflictions that can be described as a pain in the a**. They are best dealt with as quickly as possible. Kind of like the residents of Gaza who send their children into pizza parlors with bombs strapped to them.

71 slokat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:52:26am

Some charity info -
Charity Watch

72 zombie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:53:26am

Ay ay ay, here's comes the evening's daily dose of Mohammed Image Archive mail. It never, ever stops:

------

"From: Basma Albahry
Subject: THE GREATEST PROPHET MUHAMMED
Sun Jan 4 12:47:49 2009 -0800 (PST)

i feel sorry about you just because all of us know where your place well be at the end of your life and we thank Allah that you are not muslims and you will not be with us,we thank Allah that he makes us Muslims and under the MOST GREA PERSON HAD BORN IN THIS LIFE( PROPHET MUHAMMED PEACE BE UPON HIM),and we wish that he accepts us . i know that you do not understand what am i writing because ALLAH taught us every thing in great (HOLLY QURAN), that you poor know or have nothing but losting."

------

And you want to know the depressing part? I traced his IP, and it says he lives in Maryland. I was expecting Yemen or Syria or any of the usual places my mail comes from. But...people like this are living in Maryland?

73 BignJames  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:55:19am

re: #72 zombie

Maybe he's a senator?

74 Smilla  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:55:31am

re: #15 zombie

I love that story. And the moral is.... a dose of reality for them, opening the door a chink, some daylight might dawn in moonbat minds and develop a critical antenna, some common sense and a greater appreciation of the variety of human nature in this world.

Reality is also when an irresistable force meets an immovable object. As in, Hamas and your lefty sympathisers, meet the IDF.

75 Outrider  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:55:49am

re: #72 zombie

Ay ay ay, here's comes the evening's daily dose of Mohammed Image Archive mail. It never, ever stops:

------

"From: Basma Albahry
Subject: THE GREATEST PROPHET MUHAMMED
Sun Jan 4 12:47:49 2009 -0800 (PST)

i feel sorry about you just because all of us know where your place well be at the end of your life and we thank Allah that you are not muslims and you will not be with us,we thank Allah that he makes us Muslims and under the MOST GREA PERSON HAD BORN IN THIS LIFE( PROPHET MUHAMMED PEACE BE UPON HIM),and we wish that he accepts us . i know that you do not understand what am i writing because ALLAH taught us every thing in great (HOLLY QURAN), that you poor know or have nothing but losting."

------

And you want to know the depressing part? I traced his IP, and it says he lives in Maryland. I was expecting Yemen or Syria or any of the usual places my mail comes from. But...people like this are living in Maryland?

Can I get one of these Holly Qurans at the local Christmas store?

76 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:56:10am

re: #72 zombie

Ay ay ay, here's comes the evening's daily dose of Mohammed Image Archive mail. It never, ever stops:

------

"From: Basma Albahry
Subject: THE GREATEST PROPHET MUHAMMED
Sun Jan 4 12:47:49 2009 -0800 (PST)

i feel sorry about you just because all of us know where your place well be at the end of your life and we thank Allah that you are not muslims and you will not be with us,we thank Allah that he makes us Muslims and under the MOST GREA PERSON HAD BORN IN THIS LIFE( PROPHET MUHAMMED PEACE BE UPON HIM),and we wish that he accepts us . i know that you do not understand what am i writing because ALLAH taught us every thing in great (HOLLY QURAN), that you poor know or have nothing but losting."

------

And you want to know the depressing part? I traced his IP, and it says he lives in Maryland. I was expecting Yemen or Syria or any of the usual places my mail comes from. But...people like this are living in Maryland?

I bet you he was educated in the public school and his favorite teacher is a staunch supporter of the NEA.

77 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:56:45am

re: #72 zombie

I dread to see what the current generation will grow up like. It sure isn't going to be pretty.

78 Outrider  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:58:29am

re: #15 zombie

Hahahahahahaha -- ha?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

A person close to me, who is an unrepentant moonbat, recently bragged about how they signed up with a new cell phone company, one with the following amazing features:

1. It was incredibly inexpensive, with a special all-calls-for-one-low-price deal.
2. It was a nonprofit which donated all proceeds to proogressive causes!

What could be better for the guilt-ridden wannabe Luddite moonbat?

I was curious about this new company which I had never heard of before, and they told me the name at the time, but it slipped my mind, and I never looked into it.

Well, I just had another talk with this person, and they were in shock! Because they got their first monthly bill from the company, and it was astronomical! Turns out the fine print tooketh away, and they didn't notice some detail about areas codes or whatever, and instead of their monthly cell phone bill being one low all-in-one price, it was multiple hundreds of dollars. Furthermore, the company was just re-selling and repackaging Sprint minutes. In other words, the company was a bait-and-switch scheme, not an real phone company.

But when the person showed me the actual physical bill that came in the mail, my eyes popped out of their sockets. Not at the amount of the bill (which was bad enough), but at the company logo/design at the top of the bill. Can you guess what it was? Ready?

The Abu Ghraib hooded prisoner!

It was, like, the logo of the company! (At least on their bills.) As if the Abu Ghraib hooded man summed up the entire moonbat belief system.

This time I noted the name of the company, and just this minute looked up who they donate the profits to. And here's the list:

Credo Mobile: This year's causes.

Included on the list are:

Iraq Veterans Against the War
AlterNet
Media Matters
National Center for Lesbian Rights
Rock the Vote
...and any number of predictable leftist groups.

While in general I support any scheme which separates a foolish moonbat from his money, in this instance the money is being scammed out of unwitting sucker moonbats and given to...other moonbats?!?!

Like I said, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Having been apprised of the details, what emotion do you think I should have about this?

Laughed your ass off and mocked the person unmercifully. What is their complaint? The bucks are going to their progressive causes and not some "evil Republican Corporate monster" ;-)>

79 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:59:04am

re: #77 BlueCanuck

I dread to see what the current generation will grow up like. It sure isn't going to be pretty.


I think they will see up close what the flappers saw in the 1920 and 30s, and end up fighting like hell to preserve the good things that they are now taking for granted.

80 Gang of One  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 12:59:18am

re: #1 Truck Monkey

Damn Insomnia.

Yeah, I know.

81 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:00:11am

Shhhhh ....don't tell the KosKiddies. LOL

“And he’s acting almost as if he’s president when it comes to the economy, right? He’s not screaming ‘there’s only one president’ when he’s talking about the economic stimulus package,” Klein said.

James Carafano, a defense expert at the Heritage Foundation think tank, said Obama may not want to comment on foreign policy issues like Gaza because “you’re going to be held accountable for anything that you say.

“The Mumbai attacks, that’s a one-time attack, the thing’s over, you say some platitudes — you’re not making any policy,” Carafano said. “If Obama weighed in now on Hamas and Israel, people would take that as policy. But there’s two weeks between now and his inauguration. Events on the ground could change significantly. So in a sense you would walk into office with no flexibility.”

There’s nothing in Obama’s campaign statements or those of Hillary Clinton, his choice for secretary of state, to suggest they would steer a different course from Bush.

“In terms of negotiations with Hamas, it is very hard to negotiate with a group that is not representative of a nation-state, does not recognize your right to exist, has consistently used terror as a weapon, and is deeply influenced by other countries,” Obama said in July."

PeninsulaQatar

82 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:03:47am

Obama: I choked up when leaving home

President-elect Barack Obama says he choked up a little bit when he left his empty house before flying to Washington.

. . .

Before takeoff, Obama ordered a cheeseburger with fries for his in-flight meal.

/God help us

83 Gang of One  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:03:49am

re: #15 zombie

The emotion I recommend: Hearty mirth.

Although I agree that it is a scam to put money into the hands of other idjits.

84 G.W.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:05:17am

Pally-wood returns!

Take a look at the following image. Now take a look at this one. Same baby girl! Once dressed, once undressed? How many times is she getting carried into a "Gaza hospital"? And if she is getting carried dressed by pretty calmed adults, how come they are hysterical later once she is undressed and has probably already received treatment?

Charles: I have copies of the images in case they get deleted.

85 Smilla  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:06:39am

re: #81 pink freud

“The Mumbai attacks, that’s a one-time attack, the thing’s over, you say some platitudes — you’re not making any policy,” Carafano said.

Yeah, right. You just wait for the next one. It's the forest not the trees, as Steyn says. What kind of defence expert is Carafano?

86 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:09:52am

re: #85 Smilla

A f***ing idiot.

OTOH, idiocy abounds these days. Cheeseburger and fries, my ass.

87 Smilla  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:11:00am

re: #86 pink freud

A f***ing idiot.

OTOH, idiocy abounds these days. Cheeseburger and fries, my ass.

'nuff said.

88 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:11:53am

re: #84 G.W.

Pally-wood returns!

Take a look at the following image. Now take a look at this one. Same baby girl! Once dressed, once undressed? How many times is she getting carried into a "Gaza hospital"? And if she is getting carried dressed by pretty calmed adults, how come they are hysterical later once she is undressed and has probably already received treatment?

Charles: I have copies of the images in case they get deleted.

Has anyone noticed or is it just me, but in both pictures she seems pretty calm despite horrific injuries including burns to the lower and upper extremeties.
I wonder if the Hamas side has employed Hollywood make up artists?

89 BignJames  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:12:29am

re: #82 Killian Bundy

Is he selling his house? Will he lose money on it?

90 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:13:48am

We lost 8 hardworking men today. Please keep them and their families in your prayers.

"Eight people were killed and a ninth was reported critically injured after a helicopter bound for the offshore oil fields crashed Sunday afternoon in marshlands about 100 miles southwest of New Orleans.

The helicopter, operated by PHI Inc., crashed about 3:30 p.m. shortly after taking off from PHI's base in Amelia, said Richard Rovinelli, a spokesman for the company. The cause of the crash isn't clear. Rovinelli did not know the type of helicopter or its exact destination.

He said the helicopter was carrying two pilots and seven passengers. Identities of the victims have not yet been released."

91 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:15:54am

re: #90 pink freud
We should all unite in prayer for these people... God be with them and their families.

92 SurferDoc  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:15:56am

Good night, All. Time for sleep.

93 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:17:38am

re: #91 shanec99

We should all unite in prayer for these people... God be with them and their families.

Crew changes run out of Amelia. I suspect this was a replacement crew heading for the same destination.

94 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:21:52am

Night SurferDoc. Have a good night.

95 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:28:37am

re: #15 zombie

Heh!

That Abu Ghraib "hooded prisoner" looks more like Dr. Frankenstein's ill-fated attempt to create a bride for David Duke.

96 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:39:21am

Where oh where is the love?

And one final note, President-elect Obama roared like a mighty lion onto the political scene, but now he is as silent as a lamb in the face of the death and destruction that is happening in Gaza. As we approach the birthday celebration of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. let us remember what Dr. King said:
“In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.”

------Cynthia McKinney

They're coming out of the woodwork!

97 BakaRanger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:42:33am

Overheard at a pro Hamas rally:

"My little Mohammad is only five years old, yet he hates at a tenth grade level, we are so proud of him".

98 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:44:17am

re: #90 pink freud

You have my condolences. I made a few of those chopper trips, as a trainee in my job at the time. Those offshore folks are special breed. May the sole survivor recover from his injuries, and may the dead rest in peace.

99 ledger1  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:47:05am

It looks like Democrat Harry “We Lost the War” Reid is at it again. By playing partisan politics he smears our troops and boosts our enemies.

Reid:

What has the war done? It's brought about-- it's destabilized the Middle East. We have a civil war going on in Israel. We have a civil war in Iraq, as indicated today, more than 50 people killed with a bomb in Iraq today. We have Lebanon, a civil war there. We have Iran thumbing their nose with every, everyone. And if that weren't bad enough, our standing in the world community is so far down as a result of this war…”

I say Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) should retract is “We have lost the War” statement and apologize to our troops. Yet, I doubt this will happen. This is a partisan campaign by the Dems to divert money for our troops and put it into lush social programs to buy more votes.

Sure a lot of money and a lot of lives has been spent on Iraq but, this no reason to cut-and-run. It is no reason to loot the Defense Department to fund Obama’s zillion man "civilian national security force"

When Harry Reid speaks it sounds like defeat to me. Here are his weasel words during Meet the Press:

MR. GREGORY: Do you believe that the war in Iraq has been lost?

SEN. REID: I don't think at this stage we can talk about that with any degree of sensibility. That has to be something that will talked about in the history books to come. We...

MR. GREGORY: So you spoke to soon in 2007?

SEN. REID: David Petraeus and Harry Reid spoke at the same time. David Petraeus said that the war cannot be won militarily, I said what I said. Who, who phrased it the best is...

MR. GREGORY: You said that the war is lost. Today, in 2009, that's no longer your view?

SEN. REID: David, listen, someone else will have to determine that as the years go on. What has the war done? It's brought about--it's destabilized the Middle East. We have a civil war going on in Israel. We have a civil war in Iraq, as indicated today, more than 50 people killed with a bomb in Iraq today. We have Lebanon, a civil war there. We have Iran thumbing their nose with every, everyone. And if that weren't bad enough, our standing in the world community is so far down as a result of this war, so--and that doesn't take into consideration the tens of thousands who have been injured...


See: disgusting new low even for Harry Reid

I will give Reid and Obama as much respect as the liberals gave to Bush.

{Spit}

100 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:52:52am

re: #98 Alberta Oil Peon

I was born and raised here in Lafayette, an oilfield town to the core. I flew PHI way back when selling rig fishing equipment rentals. My son (19) spent a couple of months on the rigs this summer in between high school and starting college. Great money but the risks are substantial.

/Moms don't like their babies on them rigs, that's for sure. I worried every trip until he arrived safely.

101 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:56:17am

pink!
pink!
pink!

102 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:57:25am

re: #101 littleoldlady

pink!
pink!
pink!

Well doggone it darlin'! I was just about to compose a "missed you I hope everything is going well" post! Its great to see you! Been on the road I hear? Are you home yet?

103 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:58:18am

Good morning littleoldlady. I see you made it home okay. Did you enjoy your vacation?

104 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------->
Help yourselves!

105 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:00:36am

re: #104 littleoldlady

Don't mind if I do.

106 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:02:08am

pink,

We're home.

/clicks heels 3 times and all that jazz...

BlueCanuck! :-)

I would have enjoyed my vacation a lot more if I had left talloldman and MNTS home. :-/

/weather was spectacular, though

107 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:02:23am

Thanks for the fruit cup. Now things are normal again.

108 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:02:30am

Fenway! :-)

109 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:02:31am

re: #104 littleoldlady

Is this fresh homegrown Florida citrus I see here in my fruitcup?

110 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:03:19am

pink,

HOW THE H-E-DOUBLE-HOCKEY-STICK ARE YOU?!

111 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:03:33am

re: #106 littleoldlady

Now that sounds like a tale. I know MNTS would have done something. It's that's age bracket requisit.

112 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:04:30am

Food got expensive in Florida, just like here. Maybe moreso. I should have expected it but somehow I didn't...

113 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:04:37am

re: #107 BlueCanuck


I thought Erik performed admirably in LoL's absence.

But it dawned on me who's being sworn in as president this month. Red can't make enough fruitcup to ease the sting from that one...

114 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:04:41am

re: #106 littleoldlady

Good! I need a catchup call. Name your time and day (no hurry, I know you have to reclaim your life and decompress from the trip).

115 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:05:35am

re: #114 pink freud

You're the one with a life. ;-) You pick.

116 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:07:13am

re: #113 Fenway_Nation

You're right. Erik was great, as was Sharmuta and Blue, and even red.

/it's so good to have backup!

117 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:08:48am

re: #110 littleoldlady

I am remarkably well. Daughter came in for Christmas, brought the husky pup (that's a whole story unto itself, how can one little dog make so much mess!?) I have had several delicious moments watching her attempt to discipline him and failing spectacularly. Haha! We've had several chats about motherhood ...."Mom, are kids this rough!?" It's sweet and fun though, and the pup is magnificent. We've made some good headway.

Life is good.

118 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:08:49am

re: #116 littleoldlady

*blush* I only did it once. Erik was the one that served the fruitcup most often. Work kept interfering with me. :/

119 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:10:47am

re: #115 littleoldlady

How about three-ish p.m. Tuesday or Wednesday. Are you around/available in the afternoons?

120 Crux Australis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:11:45am

It was 99F here today, predicting 104 and 100 the next two days. 72 and a cool change on Friday. Can I wait 'til Friday?

121 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:12:22am

re: #117 pink freud

"Mom, are kids this rough!?"

"Ruffer!" ;-)

We came home a day earlier because I missed the dog.

/not that it worked out that way, since the car broke down and it took us a day longer to get home...

I've come to the conclusion that Roxanne is the only member of my family worth spending time with.

122 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:13:22am

re: #120 Crux Australis

Him I wonder if I should move to down under. Well at least for your summer season at least.

/freezing rain yesterday.

123 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:13:48am

re: #119 pink freud

Let's shoot for Tuesday. (Tomorrow.) If we wait much longer I may forget everything that happened.

/yes, that vacation was a lot like childbirth... ;-)

124 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:18:05am

It's dead, Jim. Jim, it's dead.

125 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:19:37am

re: #120 Crux Australis


It wouldn't surprise me to learn that alot of the younger people don't grasp that places like Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Argentina and Chile have their seasons inverted from the Northern Hemisphere....

So to the uniformed (or those only informed by the MSM), I wonder how many would interpert your weather report as additional evidence of global warming?

126 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:19:49am

re: #124 littleoldlady

Nothing that a bit of Genesis matter can't fix. . . . . . .

127 pink freud  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:20:53am

re: #123 littleoldlady

Let's shoot for Tuesday. (Tomorrow.) If we wait much longer I may forget everything that happened.

/yes, that vacation was a lot like childbirth... ;-)

I seem to remember one of your posts ...something about the "vacation from heck"? LOL!

On that note it's time for shut eye here. Nite everyone!

Tuesday it is!

128 Crux Australis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:21:35am

re: #122 BlueCanuck

Him I wonder if I should move to down under. Well at least for your summer season at least.

/freezing rain yesterday.

I hate the hot weather. I am actually more comfortable below about the 50-60 degree maxima mark.

I would swap freezing rain for 100+ degree wind and baking sun any day. My Father actually telephoned me to tell me to take appropriate precautions for the next two days.

129 akak  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:22:25am

Who is going to decide on Israel's plan of US troops at the tunnels?

/Joe is this what you meant about being tested?

130 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:23:09am

re: #126 BlueCanuck

Nothing that a bit of Genesis matter can't fix. . . . . . .

Sorry- I thought that read

Nothing that a bit of Guinness matter can't fix. . . . . . .

/Got my Irish up

131 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:23:31am

re: #128 Crux Australis

heh heh, our "winter" has just gotten going. I am not looking forward to the next three months here. Was up at my friends place this weekend. They still have two feet of snow. That's after about two or three days of warm weather. (above freezing is warm).

132 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:26:18am

re: #118 BlueCanuck

*blush* I only did it once. Erik was the one that served the fruitcup most often. Work kept interfering with me. :/


I hate fruit cups... anyone know where I can get some ice cream, fried chicken or even a snicker bar?
Cant a man get some real food up in here?

133 Crux Australis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:29:35am

re: #125 Fenway_Nation

The last two summers have been rather mild. This is the first time in about three summers that we have had temperatures 100F+ for more than two days consecutively.

Would it surprise you to know that young people in Australia probably know more about George Washington the first US President than many of our own Prime Ministers owing to the amount of US content on Australian TV.

134 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:31:07am

Heh heh... China targets Google. Heh heh heh.
[Link: tech.yahoo.com...]

Now perhaps they will not bombard us with so much anti-Israeli nonsense.

135 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:31:34am

Spending a Year Living Like Jesus

After reading the book "A Year of Living Biblically," by A.J. Jacobs, former pastor Ed Dobson decided to devote a year trying to live as Jesus did, based on what is written about him in the Bible and other historical documents.

"I read that book a little over a year ago, and I thought, well, if a secular Jew could do this, certainly a follower of Jesus could," Dobson said today on "Good Morning America Weekend."

. . .

Dobson even voted in the presidential race as he thought Jesus would. Dobson pulled the lever for Barack Obama, saying it was the first time he ever voted for a Democrat.

/a world gone insane

136 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:33:29am

re: #133 Crux Australis


I'm quite surprised, since I get the impression the youth here know more about Ryan Seacrest than they do George Washington.

137 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:35:28am

re: #136 Fenway_Nation

I'm quite surprised, since I get the impression the youth here know more about Ryan Seacrest than they do George Washington.


Actually I am quite sure that they know more about Hannah Montanna, Britney Spears and Paris Hilton than they do about George Washington.

138 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:35:30am

re: #136 Fenway_Nation

Ryan who?

/George was the guy that lead the charge up San Juan hill right?

//JK

139 Crux Australis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:37:10am

...cont.

I am actually glad I grew up when I did and had the teachers at school I did. I graduated high school in 1989. The standard of education in public schools in Australia declined after that. I missed out on the PC trash and pseudo science that the loony left are pushing now.

140 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:40:31am

re: #138 BlueCanuck

Ryan who?

/George was the guy that lead the charge up San Juan hill right?

//JK


No he is the dude who made a raft from his dad's cherry tree and used it to sail from the Potomac to California where he beat the Hessians in a boxing match one Christmas morning. What's wrong with you, dont you read anything.

141 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:41:58am

re: #140 shanec99

Ooooooh. THAT George Washington. Didn't he also carve a tunnel through a redwood tree?

142 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:46:13am

re: #141 BlueCanuck

Ooooooh. THAT George Washington. Didn't he also carve a tunnel through a redwood tree?


No no no... he bought a piece of silver with a dollar and made it into a ring for a girl named Martha... he even asked her to marry him, after the boxing match with the heavy weight champion Mr Hessian. After he beat Mr. Hessian at some gymnasium in New Jersey... he challenged some guy named Jersey Joe Walcott.

143 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:48:09am

re: #142 shanec99

/heh

144 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:49:10am

One group demonstrates and asks for peace... another group demonstrates and a car b que follows.
Guess who were involved?
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

145 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:50:02am

re: #143 BlueCanuck

/heh

If you have the time to sit and listen, I can learn you some history.

146 The Other Les  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:50:17am

re: #1 Truck Monkey

Damn Insomnia.

Damn cold symptoms.

147 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:52:33am

re: #145 shanec99

We'll swap. You pervert your history to me, and I will pervert our history to you. After all, we kicked out Paul Bunyan for being a wimp. ;)

148 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:53:01am

re: #146 The Other Les

Damn cold symptoms.


Global warming, you can't have the cold... you can have the hots... not the cold...
Come to think of it... I saw Victoria's secret mag this morning... I have the hots too.

149 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:53:30am

Good Morning LGF.

150 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:55:07am

re: #147 BlueCanuck

We'll swap. You pervert your history to me, and I will pervert our history to you. After all, we kicked out Paul Bunyan for being a wimp. ;)


Dude, I am Jamaican... you want perverted Jamaican History?
I prefer telling you perverted tales about perverts running around without clothing on their tails in Negril.

151 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:56:38am

re: #150 shanec99

I think I will pass on that. don't need my laptop screen melting on me in self defense. :)

152 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:56:59am

re: #149 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.


Mawnin'... how ya doin'... pull up a chair... we jes visitin'.

153 rightside  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:57:27am

Morning Lizards.

154 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:58:05am

re: #151 BlueCanuck

I think I will pass on that. don't need my laptop screen melting on me in self defense. :)


ok... well, never talk about perverts or perversions to Jamaicans who have been to Negril's Hedonism II.

155 The Other Les  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:59:03am

re: #15 zombie

Hahahahahahaha -- ha?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

A person close to me, who is an unrepentant moonbat, recently bragged about how they signed up with a new cell phone company, one with the following amazing features:

1. It was incredibly inexpensive, with a special all-calls-for-one-low-price deal.
2. It was a nonprofit which donated all proceeds to proogressive causes!

What could be better for the guilt-ridden wannabe Luddite moonbat?

I was curious about this new company which I had never heard of before, and they told me the name at the time, but it slipped my mind, and I never looked into it.

Well, I just had another talk with this person, and they were in shock! Because they got their first monthly bill from the company, and it was astronomical! Turns out the fine print tooketh away, and they didn't notice some detail about areas codes or whatever, and instead of their monthly cell phone bill being one low all-in-one price, it was multiple hundreds of dollars. Furthermore, the company was just re-selling and repackaging Sprint minutes. In other words, the company was a bait-and-switch scheme, not an real phone company.

But when the person showed me the actual physical bill that came in the mail, my eyes popped out of their sockets. Not at the amount of the bill (which was bad enough), but at the company logo/design at the top of the bill. Can you guess what it was? Ready?

The Abu Ghraib hooded prisoner!

It was, like, the logo of the company! (At least on their bills.) As if the Abu Ghraib hooded man summed up the entire moonbat belief system.

This time I noted the name of the company, and just this minute looked up who they donate the profits to. And here's the list:

Credo Mobile: This year's causes.

Included on the list are:

Iraq Veterans Against the War
AlterNet
Media Matters
National Center for Lesbian Rights
Rock the Vote
...and any number of predictable leftist groups.

While in general I support any scheme which separates a foolish moonbat from his money, in this instance the money is being scammed out of unwitting sucker moonbats and given to...other moonbats?!?!

Like I said, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Having been apprised of the details, what emotion do you think I should have about this?

That would depend on the throughput. The higher the administrative expenses are, the better, or least destructive it is from an objective point of view.

156 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 2:59:55am

Howdy right side, how u mom an dem doin?
Glad you could join us dis mawnin'. Pull ap a chair an' set a while huh...
'

157 The Other Les  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:00:15am

re: #148 shanec99

Global warming, you can't have the cold... you can have the hots... not the cold...
Come to think of it... I saw Victoria's secret mag this morning... I have the hots too.

I try to avoid the walking barbie doll thing.

158 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:01:10am

Why? Are you a red blooded man?

159 Stonemason  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:02:02am

re: #155 The Other Les

Thorughput is 1%, or $0.10 for every use of the credit card (yes, the company deals in credit too)

Rip-off, and a damn funny one at that.

160 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:02:26am

Slow traffic this morning... I am having fun... please don't be offended... it is all a poor attempt at humor.

161 The Other Les  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:02:38am

re: #28 zombie

P.T. Barnum would be proud, I'm sure! I'm reminded of the film "The Rainmaker," or a traveling tent revival -- relieving the rubes of their grubby cash.

Except in this instance, the rubes imagine themselves to be sophisticated radicals.

I like to call them Self Appointed Superior BeingsTM.

162 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:04:03am

re: #159 Stonemason

Thorughput is 1%, or $0.10 for every use of the credit card (yes, the company deals in credit too)

Rip-off, and a damn funny one at that.


Moon bats are typically foolish... and as my ole granny in Jamaica used to say: "a fool and his money are soon parted."

163 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:05:17am

Les is doing some recycling to save the environment or something noble I think. Les must be a Moonbat.

164 Flavia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:06:28am

Does anyone else remember Obama saying "Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel (WTTE)", only to disavow it after the Arab groups started screeching? I know I remember it because I had a heart-stopping moment of "Oh my G-D! I just may have to vote for this guy!" I mean, that's just the sort of President every country needs - someone who knows how to talk to terrorists. Naturally, when he reneged on it, my disgust & disappointment knew no bounds.

But when he picked Hillary for SoS, I had an inkling of that one brief, shining moment - after all, who else among the Democrats has placed the blame for the ME squarely on the shoulders of the PLO (et al)? Who else knows better the frustration her husband had with Arafat at Wye?

And now, he's been quoted as openly saying he sides with Israel over this:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

The only reason I am not ready to throw my cap over the windmill just yet is because he's a politician. He's got 4 years to get through, & to get re-elected. He may not be able to win over enough centrists & rightists to make up for all the leftists he's going to lose with this sort of stance; he's almost certainly going to have to moderate it somehow, & I am not looking for ward to that.

165 BignJames  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:08:54am

re: #164 Flavia


Don't worry...remember...change.

166 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:10:42am

Hamas is begining to learn that if you keep provoking a lion by poking it with a sharp stick everyday... you should at least ensure that the cage is closed, or at least you can climb a tall tree quickly.

167 deegee  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:12:43am

This list is taken from Help Us Win (helpuswin.org) (The resource for helping explain Israel's Operation Cast Lead.

Make your voice heard - 7 Things you can help us win this battle:

*Join Groups and post comments (http://www.helpuswin.org/) on Media Websites
*Join our mailing list (http://cli.gs/helpuswin/) and we will send you
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get the israeli flag pic here http://cli.gs/flag)
*You can add the QassamCount application on facebook: (http://cli.gs/
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168 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:14:13am

A Mr French look alike (from Family Affair) has gone to his 72 virgins...
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
By the way... did my description of the Hamas leader date me?

169 The Other Les  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:18:12am

re: #168 shanec99

A Mr French look alike (from Family Affair) has gone to his 72 virgins...
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
By the way... did my description of the Hamas leader date me?

If you don't know if you're being dated then you may be a nerd.

170 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:21:16am

re: #169 The Other Les

If you don't know if you're being dated then you may be a nerd.

Well I am a 6'2" 250 pound, combat veteran ... nerd. Damn... that is some combination huh?

171 The Other Les  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:22:22am

re: #170 shanec99

Well I am a 6'2" 250 pound, combat veteran ... nerd. Damn... that is some combination huh?

Yes.

172 The Other Les  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:23:08am

Something Positive is back up!

[Link: www.somethingpositive.net...]

173 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:23:21am

re: #171 The Other Les

Yes.


And proud of it.

174 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:26:17am

[Link: shawarmamayor.blogspot.com...]
Israel kills terrorists who want to murder Jews and the UN gets riled up, 400 Christians get hacked to death and the UN is silent... what gives?

175 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:34:47am
Singer Annie Lennox and other celebrities are calling on Israel to stop its air attacks on the Gaza Strip.
Lennox said violence could never be a solution to conflict.


I don't recall hearing Annie Lennox preach non-violence in response to years of terror attacks on Israelis. I guess she prefers to preach to Jews.
Douchebag.

176 The Other Les  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:41:31am

re: #175 Spare O'Lake

I don't recall hearing Annie Lennox preach non-violence in response to years of terror attacks on Israelis. I guess she prefers to preach to Jews.
Douchebag.

Annie Lennox is a Self Appointed Superior BeingTM. Never mind the facts on the ground.

177 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:43:27am

re: #24 zombie

Oh good, that does make me feel better.

As long as the money is being properly stolen, and not actually donated to commie groups, then I'm happy.

Apologies for any unhappiness this may bring.
How Working Assets Funds the Left

178 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:51:10am

re: #15 zombie

Hahahahahahaha -- ha?

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

A person close to me, who is an unrepentant moonbat, recently bragged about how they signed up with a new cell phone company, one with the following amazing features:

1. It was incredibly inexpensive, with a special all-calls-for-one-low-price deal.
2. It was a nonprofit which donated all proceeds to proogressive causes!

What could be better for the guilt-ridden wannabe Luddite moonbat?

I was curious about this new company which I had never heard of before, and they told me the name at the time, but it slipped my mind, and I never looked into it.

Well, I just had another talk with this person, and they were in shock! Because they got their first monthly bill from the company, and it was astronomical! Turns out the fine print tooketh away, and they didn't notice some detail about areas codes or whatever, and instead of their monthly cell phone bill being one low all-in-one price, it was multiple hundreds of dollars. Furthermore, the company was just re-selling and repackaging Sprint minutes. In other words, the company was a bait-and-switch scheme, not an real phone company.

But when the person showed me the actual physical bill that came in the mail, my eyes popped out of their sockets. Not at the amount of the bill (which was bad enough), but at the company logo/design at the top of the bill. Can you guess what it was? Ready?

The Abu Ghraib hooded prisoner!

It was, like, the logo of the company! (At least on their bills.) As if the Abu Ghraib hooded man summed up the entire moonbat belief system.

This time I noted the name of the company, and just this minute looked up who they donate the profits to. And here's the list:

Credo Mobile: This year's causes.

Included on the list are:

Iraq Veterans Against the War
AlterNet
Media Matters
National Center for Lesbian Rights
Rock the Vote
...and any number of predictable leftist groups.

While in general I support any scheme which separates a foolish moonbat from his money, in this instance the money is being scammed out of unwitting sucker moonbats and given to...other moonbats?!?!

Like I said, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Having been apprised of the details, what emotion do you think I should have about this?

Zombie -

Schadenfreude sounds like a good start in this case. That is all.

-S-

179 Piglet-U93  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:56:27am

re: #65 zombie

And, at the end of the day, it's gullible fools like "the person close to me" mentioned in my original comment #15 above who are footing the bill, either out of naivité or Hoffer-esque True-Believerdom.

Yes, Eric Hoffer a longshoreman who understood human nature and practical to boot!

180 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 3:57:21am

re: #15 zombie

No no no, everyone has this wrong. There is clearly only one way to deal with this.
1) Draw up a list of everyone you know who fell for this scam
2) Sell the list to every direct mail outlet and dodgy front group you can find.
Such people are a valuable asset. Just ask yourself WWBD? What Would Blago Do?

181 yochanan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:01:26am

re: #180 lifeofthemind

ROFLMAO FUNNY

182 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:06:42am

re: #180 lifeofthemind

Hmmmm, you remind me of that cartoon picture of a mouse/rat caught in a trap and all his buddies lined up behind him. I bet you would be the one off to the side selling numbers. :)

183 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:09:56am

re: #182 BlueCanuck The caught mouse isn't a he and I wouldn't say those are her buddies lining up.

184 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:11:28am

re: #183 Rustler

Yeah, well. Some of my past "buddies" were like that. :p

185 alexknyc  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:12:37am

re: #164 Flavia

And now, he's been quoted as openly saying he sides with Israel over this:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

That's just a rehashing of an old statement made in Sderot.

No reason to believe it, or any other Obama pronouncement, is valid after 30 seconds.

186 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:15:16am

re: #164 Flavia

Does anyone else remember Obama saying "Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel (WTTE)", only to disavow it after the Arab groups started screeching? I know I remember it because I had a heart-stopping moment of "Oh my G-D! I just may have to vote for this guy!" I mean, that's just the sort of President every country needs - someone who knows how to talk to terrorists. Naturally, when he reneged on it, my disgust & disappointment knew no bounds.

But when he picked Hillary for SoS, I had an inkling of that one brief, shining moment - after all, who else among the Democrats has placed the blame for the ME squarely on the shoulders of the PLO (et al)? Who else knows better the frustration her husband had with Arafat at Wye?

And now, he's been quoted as openly saying he sides with Israel over this:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

The only reason I am not ready to throw my cap over the windmill just yet is because he's a politician. He's got 4 years to get through, & to get re-elected. He may not be able to win over enough centrists & rightists to make up for all the leftists he's going to lose with this sort of stance; he's almost certainly going to have to moderate it somehow, & I am not looking for ward to that.

Obama in a political predator recently living with an entire colony of predators who is now in your neighborhood and leaving you little "gifts" on your doorstep. Rule: never accept what looks like a gift from a political predator - you will regret it - he does not have your best interests at heart - only his own.

187 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:17:30am

re: #185 alexknyc

That's just a rehashing of an old statement made in Sderot.

No reason to believe it, or any other Obama pronouncement, is valid after 30 seconds.

Obama using Political Predator-speak

188 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:18:37am

re: #186 DistantThunder

Obama in IS a political predator recently living with an entire colony of predators who is now in your neighborhood and leaving you little "gifts" on your doorstep. Rule: never accept what looks like a gift from a political predator - you will regret it - Obama does not have your best interests at heart - only his own.

189 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:19:14am

Good morning from Illinois, where our Governors make the license plates.

And the place that Obama is quickly developing amnesia about.

Word out of the State capital is that Blago is likely to be impeached by the end of the week.

And the Fed's want to talk to Blago's brother.

Feds want to have a talk with Blagojevich's brother

The federal corruption probe that has shone a national spotlight on Gov. Blagojevich now has his brother -- who chairs his campaign fund -- increasingly under the microscope.

Law enforcement authorities, who are sifting through thousands of tape recordings in the case, have shown interest in talking with Robert Blagojevich, not only about the governor, but other aspects of the investigation, the Sun-Times has learned.

However. Robert Blago is not interesting in having that conversation.

Asked whether the former U.S. Army commander would sit down with prosecutors, Robert Blagojevich's lawyer, Michael Ettinger, said his client isn't game.

"Would he cooperate and talk to the government?" Ettinger said. "Not a prayer."

Robert Blagojevich took over the Friends of Blagojevich campaign fund in August, making about $12,500 a month to manage it.

Defense lawyers say they expect the Friends of Blagojevich fund to be indicted as part of the investigation. Prosecutors have moved to freeze the campaign money but may allow some defense lawyers to tap it for retainers, sources said.

Robert Blagojevich has been captured on more than 30 recordings and is referred to as "Fundraiser A" in the criminal complaint. In one conversation concerning filling the U.S. Senate seat, the governor allegedly tells his brother to send word to an emissary for U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. that the governor wanted an upfront contribution in exchange for the appointment, according to charges.

Talk about keeping the business all in the family

190 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:19:16am
191 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:19:33am

Yoch - how are "things" going for you...?

192 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:19:42am

Unfortunately, for the 52% sheep we have living here, perception is reality.

193 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:20:57am

re: #189 3 wood

Good morning from Illinois, where our Governors make the license plates.

And the place that Obama is quickly developing amnesia about.

Word out of the State capital is that Blago is likely to be impeached by the end of the week.

And the Fed's want to talk to Blago's brother.

Feds want to have a talk with Blagojevich's brother

Talk about keeping the business all in the family

His lawyer says they can't impeach him without a proceeding, and they can't do that without the tapes. It's all speculation and heresay according to his lawyer.

194 Tamron  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:22:05am

re: #140 shanec99

No he is the dude who made a raft from his dad's cherry tree and used it to sail from the Potomac to California where he beat the Hessians in a boxing match one Christmas morning. What's wrong with you, dont you read anything.


--And if he saw his shadow on his birthday, there were 6 more weeks of bad weather that winter?

Yep. I know the dude. Went to school with him.
.

195 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:22:16am

re: #189 3 wood

Good morning from Illinois, where our Governors make the license plates.

And the place that Obama is quickly developing amnesia about.

Word out of the State capital is that Blago is likely to be impeached by the end of the week.

And the Fed's want to talk to Blago's brother.

Feds want to have a talk with Blagojevich's brother

Talk about keeping the business all in the family

Blago's wife was paid a commission on the Obama/Rezko land deal I heard one Chicago pol saying.

196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:22:33am

re: #189 3 wood

Mornin' Wood. Went 1-3 this weekend. Glad I'm not a betting man.

Wyatt's going to be pissed!

197 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:23:25am

re: #189 3 wood

I have been fascinated over the past several weeks reading and hearing every MSM story stating "Obama, a Hawaii native,,,,,,"
Now ,, to cut them some slack, he has been vacationing there during that timeframe, but I never EVER saw anything similar with any other President to be (and I've seen each one since Ike)

198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:24:37am

Freaking Cardinals win a play-off game. What's next? Locusts?

199 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:24:51am

re: #197 sattv4u2

I have been fascinated over the past several weeks reading and hearing every MSM story stating "Obama, a Hawaii native,,,,,,"
Now ,, to cut them some slack, he has been vacationing there during that timeframe, but I never EVER saw anything similar with any other President to be (and I've seen each one since Ike)

I know at least one state is passing legislation saying that any candidate for president in the future will have to present his/her birth certificate. Maybe that would complicate his re-election.

200 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:24:59am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!}

I've been at work for an hour now and it's still dark outside (07:23).

Oh, and it's Day 27 of the transit strike ...

201 Tamron  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:25:30am

re: #186 DistantThunder

Obama in a political predator recently living with an entire colony of predators who is now in your neighborhood and leaving you little "gifts" on your doorstep. Rule: never accept what looks like a gift from a political predator - you will regret it - he does not have your best interests at heart - only his own.


Is that like when you answer your door and someone left a burning paper bag on the step? You stomp out the fire, and too late realize what the prankster put in the bag....

Didn't smell like a barbecue. Not at all.
.

202 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:26:25am

re: #200 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!}

I've been at work for an hour now and it's still dark outside (07:23).

Oh, and it's Day 27 of the transit strike ...

Government loves for people to depend upon a monopoly - then they strike because they know they have the people over a barrel.

203 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:27:07am

re: #199 DistantThunder

I know at least one state is passing legislation saying that any candidate for president in the future will have to present his/her birth certificate. Maybe that would complicate his re-election.

Thats not why I mentioned the Hawaii thing. It's the MSM distancing Obama from ANY Chicago (therefore Blago) connection.

I have never had any use for the birth certif "controversy".

204 Tamron  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:27:27am

re: #200 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!}

I've been at work for an hour now and it's still dark outside (07:23).

Oh, and it's Day 27 of the transit strike ...


Good morning, Trixie! It's 3:25 am here in Anchorage, and the outside thermometer says -22 degrees Fahrenheit. I love it.
.

205 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:27:33am

re: #200 Miss Trixie

Morning Miss Trixie. Any frozen stuff up your way yesterday? In regards to the strike, the city should pull a R. Reagen.

206 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:27:35am

re: #201 Tamron Where do you think the pranksters learned it. Problem is once you step in the POlitical Predators laevings you can't easily shake it or rinse it off.

207 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:27:37am

re: #201 Tamron

Is that like when you answer your door and someone left a burning paper bag on the step? You stomp out the fire, and too late realize what the prankster put in the bag....

Didn't smell like a barbecue. Not at all.
.

More like poison candy - looks and tastes really good, but it is deadly.

208 alexknyc  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:28:34am

re: #202 DistantThunder

Government loves for people to depend upon a monopoly - then they strike because they know they have the people over a barrel.

Here in New York, we have the Taylor Law to deal with that BS.

209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:28:41am

re: #204 Tamron

I've always wanted to go to Alaska. I just want to see it before I die. So there's no hurry.

210 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:29:43am

re: #182 BlueCanuck

Hmmmm, you remind me of that cartoon picture of a mouse/rat caught in a trap and all his buddies lined up behind him. I bet you would be the one off to the side selling numbers. :)

Remember the bicycle salesman in Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid? The honest sheriff tries to gather a posse and then the salesman steps up to work the crowd. No reason to let them go to waste.

211 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:30:10am

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've always wanted to go to Alaska. I just want to see it before I die. So there's no hurry.

While Palin is there lighting up the landscape, and kicking the political manure to the curb.

212 Tamron  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:30:35am

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've always wanted to go to Alaska. I just want to see it before I die. So there's no hurry.


Kinda like, it's on your Bucket List?
.

213 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:31:46am

Well I am outta here. Relief is here, and I can barely keep my eyes or head up. See you all tomorrow/tonight. Stay warm and scaly.

214 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:35:06am

Sasha and Malia Obama are role models for the nation's children? Oh, good grief, Fox. Get a grip. They're little girls.

215 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:35:33am

Obama might show up at the inauguration running down the aisle with a posse of cops and prosecutors chasing him. Can you see him grabbing the podium like he was sliding into home plate while screaming "Sanctuary?"

216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:37:12am

re: #212 Tamron

Nah. It pretty much is my bucket list.

217 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:37:29am

In market news, the futures are basically flat, the Nikkei was up 2% and the Hang Seng was up 3.46% overnight.

Several comments about the market to bear in mind:

1. More bad news about unemployment, business failures and the like are on the way, but there is a growing sense on Wall Street that this is pretty much priced in already and that risk is now being accurately perceived. The market sort of forgot about the concept of risk in the past few years.

2. This means that the market bottom has likely been reached. That does not mean that we will not rise and then fall back to the bottom, but that absent a major further negative change, the bottom has likely been reached.

3. The investors return back to the market today in full force, including the short sellers who have been mainly absent for the past several weeks, while the market rose. They will probably short sell again to take profits out of the recent rise, but those efforts to pound the stock prices are likely to be fairly short lived.

4. A lot of stock got sold in the last few days of 2008 to lock in losses for tax purposes. That motivation to sell is now over.

5. But also bear in mind that billions upon billions of dollars in cash are sitting on the sidelines earning little if any yield, equal to about 80% of the capitalization of the market at the moment. As it becomes clear that a positive risk adjusted yield is available in the market, that cash will start to flow back into the market in search of those yields.

6. The year end numbers have now been locked in for the banks, so they can now start releasing the cash they have been sitting on the last month or two and making loans.

7. Look for Obama to spend at least another trillion on "stimulus" stuff including nationalized health care. Everything they want to do will get labeled a stimulus step.

8. Look for the slobbering MSM to give Obama credit for the wind blowing and the sun coming up once he is sworn in. A month from now you will be reading stories about ow the economy s not all that bad and what a miracle worker Obama is.

218 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:38:00am

re: #202 DistantThunder

Government loves for people to depend upon a monopoly - then they strike because they know they have the people over a barrel.

What this boils down to is the union president, the smarmy Andre Cornelier, wants to cause as much grief as possible and he wouldn't let the members vote on the City's latest and very generou offer. The ATU had been without a contract since April last and purposely waited until the Christmas holidays to strike. He said he wanted to inconvenience as many people as possible.

Now the Minister of Labor, Rona Ambrose, has decreed that the members MUST vote on the offer and we'll see what they decide next Thursday. Keep in mind the union thugs have an "Information Arm-Twisting Session" later today for its members before they vote.

Tamron

Good morning, Trixie! It's 3:25 am here in Anchorage, and the outside thermometer says -22 degrees Fahrenheit. I love it.

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Don't you just love the Northern Lights?

Hey - can you see Russia from your house? :D

Blue

Morning Miss Trixie. Any frozen stuff up your way yesterday? In regards to the strike, the city should pull a R. Reagen.

Morning! That would be great - however - they are on a legal strike so no can do. We'll just have to wait for the vote.

No white schtuff yet but expected this week ... dogdangitall ...

219 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:38:11am

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've always wanted to go to Alaska. I just want to see it before I die. So there's no hurry.

my advice , DO IT! I took the cruise. AMAZING

220 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:38:25am

re: #216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nah. It pretty much is my bucket list.

Speaking of movies, has anyone seen Gran Torino?

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:39:04am

re: #214 MandyManners

C'mon Mandy. Neither one of them have carved the path of destruction that those Bush girls carved.

Either one of the Obama daughters been arrested for fake id's? NO. The Obama's are certainly proven to be better parents then.

/

222 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:39:49am

re: #218 Miss Trixie

Love the polar bear!

Gotta' go get some blood into my caffeine stream.

223 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:40:33am

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This mama bear is about to go wake her cub.

224 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:40:52am

re: #193 DistantThunder

His lawyer says they can't impeach him without a proceeding, and they can't do that without the tapes. It's all speculation and heresay according to his lawyer.

The problem for Blago's lawyer is he does not get to set up the process.

They are going to impeach Blago. That you can take to the bank. Then Blago can go fight it in court.

The Dem's in Illinois want to get this off the front pages ASAP cause they are scared to death that a Republican might actually get elected to something around here eventually if they do not.

By the way, appointee Roland Burris is heading to Washington today to confront the Senate for his seat in the continuing Illinois political freak show.

225 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:43:13am

re: #195 DistantThunder

Blago's wife was paid a commission on the Obama/Rezko land deal I heard one Chicago pol saying.

That, plus she was making lots of commissions on deals she had little to do with.

Blago's kids' were also getting thousands of dollars in cash birthday presents from people looking for State jobs, and got them after the check cleared.

It's a sewer.

226 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:43:14am

re: #84 G.W.

Pally-wood returns!

Take a look at the following image. Now take a look at this one. Same baby girl! Once dressed, once undressed? How many times is she getting carried into a "Gaza hospital"? And if she is getting carried dressed by pretty calmed adults, how come they are hysterical later once she is undressed and has probably already received treatment?

In the undressed photo, it appears that the child has certainly already received treatment. Note the apparent IV line with the gauze bandage on the the child's right arm. In that photo, the child seems to still be conscious, despite the closed eyes, because she's playing with the "IV/bandage". In neither case, you'll note, does the child appear to be reacting to the apparent severity of her injuries. In the dressed photo, she seems alert and perhaps a little apprehensive, but doesn't appear to be reacting to what looks like in the later photo to be extremely painful injuries, especially considering that the clothing would be in direct contact with them, as would the pressure from being carried like an ordinary uninjured child. Why isn't she crying or screaming?

227 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:43:18am

re: #224 3 wood

The problem for Blago's lawyer is he does not get to set up the process.

They are going to impeach Blago. That you can take to the bank. Then Blago can go fight it in court.

The Dem's in Illinois want to get this off the front pages ASAP cause they are scared to death that a Republican might actually get elected to something around here eventually if they do not.

By the way, appointee Roland Burris is heading to Washington today to confront the Senate for his seat in the continuing Illinois political freak show.

Won't happen. The old adage about a pol being caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy was pretty much tossed into the trash bin of history thanks to my hometown heros, Ted Kennedy and Barney Frank!

228 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:44:23am

re: #196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mornin' Wood. Went 1-3 this weekend. Glad I'm not a betting man.

Wyatt's going to be pissed!

It was amazing to watch the Vikings turn McNabb into Johnny Unitas yesterday.

229 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:44:24am

re: #222 MandyManners

Love the polar bear!

Gotta' go get some blood into my caffeine stream.

Thanks - I thought he'd make a good avatar too.

230 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:46:37am

re: #224 3 wood

That you can take to the bank.

Why would you want to take anything to the bank? Fat lot of good that cardboard box does anybody.


Waiting for Fat Sal who operates out of the back of a car, collections dep't. in the trunk, to put up a sign "The Respectable Alternative."

231 ThinkRight  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:46:38am

re: #217 3 wood
You are a modern day Nostradamus !
You did notice the 60% decline in gas prices after Nov 4th all due to the big 0

232 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:46:45am

re: #217 3 wood

Several comments about the market to bear in mind:

Good one. :D

233 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:47:40am

re: #226 Dar ul Harb

I wonder if there's any video of this scene?

234 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:48:12am

re: #232 Spare O'Lake

Several comments about the market to bear in mind:

Good one. :D

I was wondering if anyone would catch that.

My wife keeps saying my sense of humor is too subtle.

235 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:50:02am

re: #231 ThinkRight

You are a modern day Nostradamus !
You did notice the 60% decline in gas prices after Nov 4th all due to the big 0

Of course.

Also interest rates are lower now due to him, and the market went up 5% in the past 2 weeks due to him too.

Any bad news though is Bush's fault.

236 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:50:29am

re: #234 3 wood

I was wondering if anyone would catch that.

My wife keeps saying my sense of humor is too subtle.

At least yours says you have one. When we're out, and people around me are laughing hysterically over some observation I made, my wife sits by stoically, then in the car on the way home she reminds me "you're not funny, you know"

237 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:51:20am

Got to run to work. Later.

238 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:54:06am

re: #236 sattv4u2

At least yours says you have one. When we're out, and people around me are laughing hysterically over some observation I made, my wife sits by stoically, then in the car on the way home she reminds me "you're not funny, you know"

Oh, one of those...but I bet she can sure cook./

239 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:55:22am

re: #238 Spare O'Lake

Oh, one of those...but I bet she can sure cook./

HAHAHAHAHA ,,,, She makes a mean frozen pizza. She can also whip up leftovers (that I made from scratch) in the microwave like nobody you've ever seen!

240 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:58:28am

G 'day from Down Under to {everyone}

We're having a heatwave here, and I notice Crux, my fellow Sydneysider here doesn't fancy the heat but I'm very happy - it's summer!

Last summer was so mild, it felt as if we'd gone from spring to autumn without stopping for summer.......

241 Karridine  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 4:58:53am

Reality... Mark Steyn wrote several times of the differences between Churchill and Hitler, especially Churchill's WILLING ACCEPTANCE of Reality, no matter how ugly it was at the time, compared to Hitler's WILLFUL DENIAL of Reality, being chauffered around in a limo with the SHADES DRAWN, and eventually going to HIDE in his bunker...

...and in both cases, whether they believed or not, the Reality REMAINED no matter who tried to wish it away... too bad, Schickelgruber!

242 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:01:21am

re: #229 Miss Trixie

Thanks - I thought he'd make a good avatar too.

Hi {darls} goodness, you're at work so early!

That strike is STILL going on? Unbelievable - the public transport commuters of Ottawa must be very patient indeed

243 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:05:35am

I noticed on CNN this morning the Israeli persecution of Palestinins continues. Good for Israel allthough I hate hearing self defense refered to as persecution.

244 opnion  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:06:00am

Good morning from ethically challenged Illinois.
Our new Junior Senator is on his way to rumble with Harry Reid tomorrow.
Should have lots of humor.

245 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:06:46am

re: #235 3 wood

Of course.

Also interest rates are lower now due to him, and the market went up 5% in the past 2 weeks due to him too.

Any bad news though is Bush's fault.

I've noticed my water turning into wine, lately. The dishwasher is a mess.

246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:07:12am

re: #242 aussiemagpie

Earlier someone mentioned the firing of the Air Traffic Controllers, was my original "I love this guy!" moment.

247 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:08:09am

re: #243 Rustler

I noticed on CNN this morning the Israeli persecution of Palestinins continues. Good for Israel allthough I hate hearing self defense refered to as persecution.

send them an e-mail stating that you will agree with their story 100% if they change one word. Take out PERSECUTION and make it PROSECUTION!

(not that any of their editors or stringers would know the difference)

248 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:08:45am

re: #244 opnion

Good morning from ethically challenged Illinois.
Our new Junior Senator is on his way to rumble with Harry Reid tomorrow.
Should have lots of humor.

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll cancel each other out.

249 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:10:23am

re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Earlier someone mentioned the firing of the Air Traffic Controllers, was my original "I love this guy!" moment.

Hi there, on this thread? :-)

250 ThinkRight  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:10:34am

re: #244 opnion

Good morning from ethically challenged Illinois.
Our new Junior Senator is on his way to rumble with Harry Reid tomorrow.
Should have lots of humor.


I hope McKinney is there to show him how to handle it. LOL
/

251 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:10:56am

re: #247 sattv4u2
They will reply that they said prosecution, but I apparently only heard what I wanted to.

252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:10:59am

re: #249 aussiemagpie

Yeah. Ronald Maximus.

253 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:11:09am

re: #249 aussiemagpie

Hi there, on this thread? :-)

Wave, wave, wave...:)

254 opnion  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:12:00am

re: #248 Dustyvet

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll cancel each other out.


It does not seem that long ago, that the Dems were screaming about the Republican "Culture of Corruption." Now with the bDems making all nthe bad news, you hear nothing about group guilt. Why nis is that?

255 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:12:14am

Fantasy, Burris bulls his way in despite the efforts of Reid to kick him out and hears Byrd call him "uppity" so he caucuses with the Republicans. I can dream.

256 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:13:22am

re: #254 opnion

It does not seem that long ago, that the Dems were screaming about the Republican "Culture of Corruption." Now with the bDems making all nthe bad news, you hear nothing about group guilt. Why nis is that?

No idea, really...:(

257 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:13:37am

re: #242 aussiemagpie

Hi {darls} goodness, you're at work so early!

That strike is STILL going on? Unbelievable - the public transport commuters of Ottawa must be very patient indeed

Hiya, toots! Up at 04:30 at work around 06:15 or so just so my carpooling buds and I can coordinate and get underground parking before it all fills up.

Of course Ottawa'a media were sternly warning us this morning of "dire congestion on city streets" now that the Holidays are over and most folks are back at work. Sure, it's a little more busy bit nothing like they were scaring peeps about. Check out Ottawa's city traffic cameras for yourself.

258 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:13:57am

'Mom, I have to fight'

Those bloody bastards.

259 rightside  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:14:10am

Allegedly, the entire world believes we are no longer the strongest country on the planet, yet everyone still knows that we lead, not follow.

260 Karridine  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:14:10am

re: #254 opnion

It does not seem that long ago, that the Dems were screaming about the Republican "Culture of Corruption." Now with the Dems making all the bad news, you hear nothing about group guilt. Why is that?

Corruption and guilt DO NOT apply to them. La-la-la, I can't HEAR you...

/see?

261 opnion  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:14:12am

re: #255 lifeofthemind

Fantasy, Burris bulls his way in despite the efforts of Reid to kick him out and hears Byrd call him "uppity" so he caucuses with the Republicans. I can dream.

Bobby Rush would bust a cap in his ass.

262 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:15:30am

re: #251 Rustler

They will reply that they said prosecution, but I apparently only heard what I wanted to.

you can ask for a transcript

263 Karridine  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:18:29am

re: #262 sattv4u2

you can ask for a transcript

A notarized transcript? Sworn to and attested under oath?

/oh...

264 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:18:50am

Breakfast!

265 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:18:59am

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...] B'tSelem should move into Gaza to help all the innocents they are so concerned about.

266 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:19:49am

re: #262 sattv4u2
Haha. Then they can give the same response the LA times did.

267 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:19:58am

re: #253 Dustyvet

Wave, wave, wave...:)

Hi, and *waves back*, just enjoying a lovely warm night here - and getting ready to climb up the ladder to get my cat off the roof - again

268 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:22:14am

re: #263 Karridine

A notarized transcript? Sworn to and attested under oath?

/oh...

in my business (TV broadcasting) all transcripts MUST be authentic. Their FCC license depends on it

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:22:16am

re: #267 aussiemagpie

Hi, and *waves back*, just enjoying a lovely warm night here - and getting ready to climb up the ladder to get my cat off the roof - again

My neighbor is a cop. Kids were concerned about a cat up a tree once, he said, "You've seen cats in trees before, right?" Kids said, "Yes Sir." He said, "Ever seen a cat's skeleton in a tree? It'll come down when the need becomes urgent enough."

270 opnion  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:22:19am

On Fox & Friends this morning there was a group of pundits discussing among other things Richardsons withdrawl from the cabinet.
The two Dems thought that there should have been a better vetting, but that it won't reflect poorly on BHO.
That is true , but at some point he stops getting the benefit of all doubts.

271 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:22:37am

re: #266 Rustler

Haha. Then they can give the same response the LA times did.

no ,, they can't ,, FCC mandated

272 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:23:04am

re: #259 rightside

Allegedly, the entire world believes we are no longer the strongest country on the planet, yet everyone still knows that we lead, not follow.

LOve this money quote from that pile of manure "Hillary Clinton, his designated secretary of state, and Joe Biden, the vice-president-elect and foreign policy expert, have also been uncharacteristically taciturn on the subject." Do they pump in air and sunlight to the basement where they are holding Joe? He may become a legend, the subject of test reports for dummy intel exercises.

273 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:24:08am

re: #266 Rustler

Haha. Then they can give the same response the LA times did.

re: #271 sattv4u2

[Link: transcripts.cnn.com...]

274 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:24:42am
Professor Sands says proportionality is "very, very difficult."

"What's proportionate in the eyes of one person may be disproportionate in the eyes of another," he says.

The difference in numbers in the Gaza war is stark - Palestinians say more than 500 Gazans have died in eight days, compared with 18 Israelis from rocket fire since 2001.

From the Article I linked above without mention that the 18 Israeli's died mostly during cease fires. Or that the precision strikes being performed by Israel limit civilian casualties much more than the indiscriminant firing of rockets by hamas.

275 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:25:27am

re: #273 sattv4u2 Cool.

276 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:25:46am

howdy rustler re: #266re: #269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Rustler
HEre: #267 aussiemagpie
hi Aussie :>)

277 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:26:19am

re: #269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
HEY!

278 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:26:38am

re: #276 apachegunner
Morning Gunner.

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:26:51am

re: #277 apachegunner

Wha's up rich boy?

280 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:27:19am

i really miss dorian :>(

281 Rune  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:27:28am

This is in Danish but I though I’d share it with you:

School warns Jews: Find another school

Olav Nielsen, school at Humlehaveskolen [school] in Vollsmose [same area where two Israeli salesmen were shot down a few days ago], is reluctant to have Jewish children among the Palestinian students. The situation is so sad that one is reduced to tears says the President of the Danish-Palestinian Friendship Organization

[...]

Give the same advice
Superior Rabbi [not sure it is the correct translation] of the Jewish Community in Denmark, Bent Lexner, is not surprised.

- Because such is the case in a nutshell. Unfortunately those are the conditions. Not only in Odense, but also elsewhere in the country, says Bent Lexner.

He has heard of schools in Copenhagen, where the management has given Jewish families exactly the same advice.

- If a Jewish mother came to me and asked whether it was a good idea that her son began at a school with many children of Arabic background, I would also say no, as things stand now, he says.

Prejudices out of school
Fathi El-Abed, chairman of the Danish-Palestinian Friendship Organization, thinks Olav Nielsen words are disheartening.

- It is so depressing if it has come to this, that our children cannot attend the same school because of an international conflict. It makes you want to cry.

- We must teach our children that we are all Danes, regardless where we come from, he said.

School warns Jews: Find another school

282 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:27:55am

re: #257 Miss Trixie

Hiya, toots! Up at 04:30 at work around 06:15 or so just so my carpooling buds and I can coordinate and get underground parking before it all fills up.

Of course Ottawa'a media were sternly warning us this morning of "dire congestion on city streets" now that the Holidays are over and most folks are back at work. Sure, it's a little more busy bit nothing like they were scaring peeps about. Check out Ottawa's city traffic cameras for yourself.

Thanks for that link - not much traffic at all really

What's all that white stuff on the ground? :-)

We're expecting 40C + temps here today

283 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:28:00am

re: #280 apachegunner Yeah he was always good for a laugh as long as you didn't take him too seriously.

284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:28:04am

Watching "The Canterville Ghost". This story has always appealed to me in a goofy sort of way.

285 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:28:14am

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wha's up rich boy?


I am leaving for Ft. Mead this morning, meetings all week, I'll be at the Embassy at the Baltimore airport smarty pants :>)

286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:28:46am

re: #285 apachegunner

Buy me a drink, if I get nearby?

/

287 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:28:52am

re: #283 Rustler

Yeah he was always good for a laugh as long as you didn't take him too seriously.


yeah, but what do I do with all this Baileys?

288 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:29:13am

re: #286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Buy me a drink, if I get nearby?

/

you got it

289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:30:02am

re: #283 Rustler

Don't get all high and mighty, Rustler. Most of us are only good for a laugh if you don't take us too seriously.

290 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:30:52am

re: #289 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't get all high and mighty, Rustler. Most of us are only good for a laugh if you don't take us too seriously.

I'm only good for a laugh when I'm TRYING to be serious !

(laugh is the same as pity ,,, no !?!?!)

291 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:31:18am

I don't feel much like dancing.
Stick it to them, IDF!
Fuck you, MSM!
BBL.

292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:31:41am

I hope Dorian sends Charles an apologetic email. But, he can be a stubborn little "almost nearly famous rock star" so, I doubt he will.

I think Charles would re-instate him.

Hear that Dorian? We miss ya, bud!

293 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:31:59am

re: #287 apachegunner

yeah, but what do I do with all this Baileys?

Um, what happened while I was away on vacation?!?

(I'll help drink some of that Bailey's, Cousin!)

294 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:31:59am

re: #269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My neighbor is a cop. Kids were concerned about a cat up a tree once, he said, "You've seen cats in trees before, right?" Kids said, "Yes Sir." He said, "Ever seen a cat's skeleton in a tree? It'll come down when the need becomes urgent enough."

LOL! She just came in the door....

295 Crux Australis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:32:04am

re: #282 aussiemagpie

Thanks for that link - not much traffic at all really

What's all that white stuff on the ground? :-)

We're expecting 40C + temps here today

I'm still trying to decide whether to attempt to sleep tonight.

296 BaseballMom57  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:32:14am

re: #168 shanec99

A Mr French look alike (from Family Affair) has gone to his 72 virgins...
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]
By the way... did my description of the Hamas leader date me?

Oh my gosh - he DOES look like Mr. French. (I loved that show...those kids sort of lost their way in life as they grew up, didn't they?)

Or maybe Sallah from Raiders of the Lost Ark!

297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:32:27am

re: #294 aussiemagpie

LOL! She just came in the door....

Point. Set. Match.

298 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:32:28am

Obama Spokesman on Gaza

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:33:11am

re: #294 aussiemagpie

LOL! She just came in the door....

Wonder how many people have died trying to get a cat off of roof/out of a tree/or another dumb situation.

300 BaseballMom57  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:33:17am

Good gosh - the "front page" photo on Foxnews online is Franken, looking....Senatorial.

301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:33:26am

re: #298 Rustler

Obama Spokesman on Gaza

Where?

302 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:33:36am

re: #276 apachegunner

Hi there!

303 yochanan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:34:02am

re: #281 Rune

time for jews to find another country

304 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:34:23am

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wonder how many people have died trying to get a cat off of roof/out of a tree/or another dumb situation.

Raising my paw...

305 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:35:10am

re: #293 scottishbuzzsaw

Um, what happened while I was away on vacation?!?

(I'll help drink some of that Bailey's, Cousin!)


ahh yes, pass me your cup cuz :>)

306 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:36:10am

re: #300 BaseballMom57

Good morning all.

BaseballMom, how is your husband doing? I haven't heard anything since you put up the prayer request on Christmas Day.

307 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:36:41am

re: #302 aussiemagpie

Hi there!

308 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:37:00am

It's Israel's fault no aid gets into Gaza.

309 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:37:06am

re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope Dorian sends Charles an apologetic email. But, he can be a stubborn little "almost nearly famous rock star" so, I doubt he will.

I think Charles would re-instate him.

Hear that Dorian? We miss ya, bud!


yes, I bet he still attends the board and should see your suggestion to apologize. I did once and the big lizard let me return. been good every since :>)

310 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:37:20am

re: #301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Doh sec ill reget it

311 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:37:33am

re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope Dorian sends Charles an apologetic email. But, he can be a stubborn little "almost nearly famous rock star" so, I doubt he will.

I think Charles would re-instate him.

Hear that Dorian? We miss ya, bud!

I actually sent Charles an e-mail stating that. If you look at the discussion from that thread, I may have goaded Dorian a little and backed him into a corner which may or may not have hastened Charles decision. That said, what Dorian stated and stuck too was whack worthy in as much it could have been used against LGF, IMHO

312 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:38:08am

re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope Dorian sends Charles an apologetic email. But, he can be a stubborn little "almost nearly famous rock star" so, I doubt he will.

I think Charles would re-instate him.

Hear that Dorian? We miss ya, bud!

Amen from me, Dorian.

313 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:38:10am

re: #295 Crux Australis

I'm still trying to decide whether to attempt to sleep tonight.

Hello Crux :-)

It's such a lovely night, we've got a cool breeze here and all the windows and back doors wide open

314 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:38:56am

aren't ya afriad a 'roo' might jump in the door? re: #313 aussiemagpie

Hello Crux :-)

It's such a lovely night, we've got a cool breeze here and all the windows and back doors wide open

315 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:39:15am

President-elect Barack Obama

"The president-elect is closely monitoring global events, including the situation in Gaza," said Brooke Anderson, chief security spokeswoman for Obama's transition team. "There is one president at a time, and we intend to respect that."

There we go Obama's response to the Gaza Conflict. FBV you know you coulda guessed it without me quoting it.

316 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:39:17am

re: #311 sattv4u2

Totally agree. Was wackable, but, I think, forgivable.

317 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:39:48am

re: #297 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Point. Set. Match.

You. Were. Right.

:-)

318 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:40:58am

Good Morning Lizards!

re: #312 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Amen from me, Dorian.

Wait, what did I miss? Dorian got exiled?

319 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:41:03am

Doctor in Gaza: Patients 'lying everywhere' No truer headline could have been posted. They are Lying thru their teeth.

320 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:41:08am

re: #313 aussiemagpie

Hello Crux :-)

It's such a lovely night, we've got a cool breeze here and all the windows and back doors wide open

Have you noticed those four un-invited jumbucks drinking at the "billabong" in your loo?

321 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:41:22am

morning ford re: #318 Ford_Prefect

322 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:41:43am

re: #305 apachegunner

ahh yes, pass me your cup cuz :>)

Thanks! How are you doing this fine *yawn* Monday morning?

323 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:42:14am

re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wonder how many people have died trying to get a cat off of roof/out of a tree/or another dumb situation.

I thought of that yesterday when I did get her off the roof....me, ladder, fall off, break something....

324 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:42:15am

re: #318 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards!

Wait, what did I miss? Dorian got exiled?

Yes, about a week ago, for over-the-top commenting.

325 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:42:22am

re: #318 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards!


Wait, what did I miss? Dorian got exiled?

Good morning, Ford...I'm just catching up, too...

326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:42:34am

re: #318 Ford_Prefect

Yes.

327 BaseballMom57  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:42:51am

re: #306 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Good morning all.

BaseballMom, how is your husband doing? I haven't heard anything since you put up the prayer request on Christmas Day.

Thanks! I've been in and out of here with updates - he's in Phoenix at an acute care facility, doing well physically, but a little somber since we're 200 miles away.

The latest news is good (we saw him this weekend). His catheter has been removed, all IVs have been removed, so he's totally free of lines, except for his feeding tube. Still has the trache, but it's a "Jackson", which allows him to speak, which although kinda strange sounding, is very good to hear. They have him on what's called a "mechanical soft" diet, which means everything is pureed or ground, which he DESPISES. He has not eaten one thing they've brought him. When we were there, they brought him a "chicken pot pie". Our oldest son and I looked at it, glanced at each other, and thought "Sweeney Todd". I wouldn't have eaten it either! So I guess they will feed him stuff through his tube in his stomach. He is looking forward to a shower, which they told him he could take as soon as he wants to. He's still a little weak in the knees, but getting better. Three weeks in bed will do that to ya.

Thanks for asking! I've updated Goddess a few times as well.

328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:43:16am

re: #325 scottishbuzzsaw

Hey there sexy!

(Dorian would say that, just trying to ease the pain)

329 rightside  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:43:56am

re: #292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

what happened to dorian?

330 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:43:59am

re: #328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey there sexy!

(Dorian would say that, just trying to ease the pain)

{FBV}!

331 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:44:11am

doin great cuz, hope your holidays were happy and the new year is 10 times better than the last. re: #322 scottishbuzzsaw

Thanks! How are you doing this fine *yawn* Monday morning?

332 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:44:47am

re: #327 BaseballMom57

Good News!
Thanks.

What general part of AZ are you in?
/in Dallas now, but used to live in Tucson

333 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:45:07am

re: #281 Rune

This is in Danish but I though I’d share it with you:


School warns Jews: Find another school

If the Danish had hair-1 between their legs, they would deport the Arabs from their country instead telling the Jews to "find another school"

334 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:45:20am

re: #307 Dustyvet

Thanks for the laugh :-) Gorgeous and cute!

335 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:46:44am

re: #329 rightside

See this ... #324 pre-Boomer Marine brat

336 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:47:02am

re: #329 rightside

what happened to dorian?

Was being an asshole. Which we all can be from time to time. It was Friday night. Charles was right, Dorian was wrong, Dorian should apologize....this much... and get re-instated.

And that's all I got to say about that.

337 rightside  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:47:25am

re: #335 pre-Boomer Marine brat


thanks

338 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:47:45am

re: #334 aussiemagpie

Thanks for the laugh :-) Gorgeous and cute!

Your welcome...:)

339 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:47:49am

re: #331 apachegunner

doin great cuz, hope your holidays were happy and the new year is 10 times better than the last.

They were happy, and hope yours were, too. And a new year ten times better than the last would be a very good thing! ;>)

340 summergurl  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:48:52am

Morning Lizards

341 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:49:22am

re: #314 apachegunner

aren't ya afriad a 'roo' might jump in the door?

The only things jumping in the door are my kitties and a few mossies :-)

342 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:49:47am

re: #340 summergurl

Morning Lizards

~yawn~

huh?...what?

343 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:50:33am

Fantasy Island Scene Of The Day:
(stage setting -- the Gaza Strip -- several Hamas fighters)

running footsteps approaching from off-camera

voice calling out: "Da pain! Da pain!"

344 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:51:12am

re: #320 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Have you noticed those four un-invited jumbucks drinking at the "billabong" in your loo?

I'll just go and check.....be right back :-)

345 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:51:26am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine monday morning?

346 Rustler  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:51:57am

I actually must have heard what i wanted to hear looking thru this mornings stories etc I cant find Persecution maybe was comment from a non newsie in the background. Hate hearing the TV but looking at its back.

347 BaseballMom57  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:52:19am

re: #332 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Out in the midde of the desert, where the London Bridge is now spanning a piece of the Colorado.

348 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:52:21am

re: #337 rightside

thanks

Good morning, rightside...how are you today?

349 Crux Australis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:52:33am

re: #314 apachegunner

aren't ya afriad a 'roo' might jump in the door?

No. But about 30 minutes drive from where I live I have seen kangaroos as "roadkill". My parents have a 50 acre property about 3 hours south of Sydney and the kangaroos come right to their door. They have to keep their doors closed and locked at night.

350 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:52:44am

hiya Hoops! re: #345 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine monday morning?

351 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:53:01am

re: #321 apachegunner

re: #324 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #325 scottishbuzzsaw

re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Morning. Sorry for the delay. I am at work so I am kind of in and out.
re: #335 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thanks. I will check that out. BRB

352 summergurl  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:53:22am

UN Security COuncil meeting this morning. Wonder what new condemnation of Israel they are going to try to get through. We will of course block any that don't specifically mention Hamas ---but in 15 days----who knows...

353 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:53:29am

re: #350 apachegunner

hiya Hoops!

morning gunner!

354 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:53:44am

re: #341 aussiemagpie

The only things jumping in the door are my kitties and a few mossies :-)

What's a mossie? Oh never mind, I figured it out..:)

355 rightside  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:53:47am

re: #348 scottishbuzzsaw


I'm great thanks, and you?

356 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:53:52am

re: #349 Crux Australis

No. But about 30 minutes drive from where I live I have seen kangaroos as "roadkill". My parents have a 50 acre property about 3 hours south of Sydney and the kangaroos come right to their door. They have to keep their doors closed and locked at night.


were I there they'd be my "pets". do they like kittens?

357 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:53:57am

re: #345 HoosierHoops

Morning HH.

358 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:54:13am

re: #347 BaseballMom57

Ah ha. You have a Sue out there (along with a lot of Bettys and Marys).

/barfing is permitted ... (-:

359 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:55:21am

re: #355 rightside

I'm great thanks, and you?

Trying to jumpstart the day with lots of java...otherwise, just fine. ;>)

360 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:55:24am

re: #345 HoosierHoops

Good Morning!

361 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:55:53am

Does anyone know offhand what the topic was that got Dorian the boot? I am just curious. I can't remember Dorian getting that riled up about anything.

362 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:55:56am

re: #352 summergurl

UN Security COuncil meeting this morning. Wonder what new condemnation of Israel they are going to try to get through. We will of course block any that don't specifically mention Hamas ---but in 15 days----who knows...

Oh you know. You know.

363 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:56:00am

well, think i'll beat my butt to baltimore. might be back once I get to the airport. CYA

364 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:56:30am

re: #361 Ford_Prefect

Does anyone know offhand what the topic was that got Dorian the boot? I am just curious. I can't remember Dorian getting that riled up about anything.

He wanted to ban the Muslim religion entirely.

365 apachegunner  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:56:30am

re: #361 Ford_Prefect

Does anyone know offhand what the topic was that got Dorian the boot? I am just curious. I can't remember Dorian getting that riled up about anything.


muslims flying I believe, bye

366 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:56:40am

re: #361 Ford_Prefect

Does anyone know offhand what the topic was that got Dorian the boot? I am just curious. I can't remember Dorian getting that riled up about anything.

Islam in general

367 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:56:44am

re: #363 apachegunner

well, think i'll beat my butt to baltimore. might be back once I get to the airport. CYA

Take care, Cousin, and safe travel...

368 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:56:53am

re: #361 Ford_Prefect

Does anyone know offhand what the topic was that got Dorian the boot? I am just curious. I can't remember Dorian getting that riled up about anything.

basically, that Islam should be banned as a religion in the USA

369 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:56:57am

re: #363 apachegunner

well, think i'll beat my butt to baltimore. might be back once I get to the airport. CYA

Safe trip, and see you later!

370 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 5:58:26am

re: #364 Nevergiveup

He wanted to ban the Muslim religion entirely.

Hmm. That is a little harsh. Wouldn't mind seeing it just sort of fade away...but banning is a bit un-American.

371 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:00:58am

re: #370 Ford_Prefect

see my #311

372 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:01:33am

re: #368 sattv4u2

basically, that Islam should be banned as a religion in the USA

I always find it a shame when people can't debate topics without getting personal or taking things to extremes. I wasn't here for this banning, but it usually seems to me like that is the problem when someone gets banned. Also, knowing when to say "I guess we just disagree" and move on.

373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:01:54am

Today I get to see an ex-girlfriend from High School. We were talking and she said, "What's it been, thirty years?"

Remember when people said "I haven't seen him in 20 years" and you thought they were ancient?

Oh. That left a mark.

374 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:03:22am

re: #370 Ford_Prefect

Hmm. That is a little harsh. Wouldn't mind seeing it just sort of fade away...but banning is a bit un-American.

We'll never get anywhere until we ban the militant wing of the Salvation Army.

375 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:03:48am

re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Today I get to see an ex-girlfriend from High School. We were talking and she said, "What's it been, thirty years?"

Remember when people said "I haven't seen him in 20 years" and you thought they were ancient?

Oh. That left a mark.

Senior year in High School ,,,, 1971
Date as we type now ,,,,,,,,,,,2009

YOU do the math!

376 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:04:12am

re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Today I get to see an ex-girlfriend from High School. We were talking and she said, "What's it been, thirty years?"

Remember when people said "I haven't seen him in 20 years" and you thought they were ancient?

Oh. That left a mark.

I hear ya. I realized the other day that my 25th high school reunion will be later this year. I still don't feel like a grown up sometimes. How could it be 25 years since I graduated H.S.?

377 BaseballMom57  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:04:14am

re: #358 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yep. We have an ER, an ICU and regular "floor" at our local hospital, but nothing in between. Had he been kept here and transferred out of ICO to the regular floor, his nurse would have 10, maybe 15 other patients and would not be able to administer any sort of relief to him in a timely manner. Plus, they have no skilled tracheotomy care nurses that can assist in "weaning" off the ventilator. So he took a chopper ride to a facility housed within Good Sam. They're doing quite well with him, aside from the Sweeney Todd- looking food. LOL

378 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:04:22am

re: #374 HoosierHoops

We'll never get anywhere until we ban the militant wing of the Salvation Army.

not to mention those unsavory tech savvy Amish

379 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:04:27am

re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Today I get to see an ex-girlfriend from High School. We were talking and she said, "What's it been, thirty years?"

Remember when people said "I haven't seen him in 20 years" and you thought they were ancient?

Oh. That left a mark.

47 years
/grrrr ... snot-nosed kids think THEY'VE got problems ... grrrr ... :D

380 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:05:02am

re: #374 HoosierHoops

We'll never get anywhere until we ban the militant wing of the Salvation Army.

LOL! Good morning, HH...

381 fclass308  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:05:05am

re: #300 BaseballMom57

Is "senatorial" a synonym for retarded? :)

382 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:05:26am

re: #374 HoosierHoops

We'll never get anywhere until we ban the militant wing of the Salvation Army.

bells. Bells! BELLS!

*runs around with hands over ears

383 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:06:10am

re: #380 scottishbuzzsaw

LOL! Good morning, HH...

Scottish! Good to see you!

384 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:06:24am

re: #376 Ford_Prefect

I hear ya. I realized the other day that my 25th high school reunion will be later this year. I still don't feel like a grown up sometimes. How could it be 25 years since I graduated H.S.?

It's been 41 years since I came home from Vietnam, *cough* Where's that damn bottle of Geritol...:)

385 yochanan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:07:20am

re: #354 Dustyvet

a rather dumb mossie if there a cats around.

386 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:07:21am

re: #374 HoosierHoops

We'll never get anywhere until we ban the militant wing of the Salvation Army.

They do steal alot of prime couches and lounge chairs?

387 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:07:23am

re: #383 HoosierHoops

Scottish! Good to see you!

Good to see you, too, HH...did you have a nice holiday season?

388 Crux Australis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:07:31am

re: #356 apachegunner

were I there they'd be my "pets". do they like kittens?

I'd be careful. They are still wild animals. You never know what they would do any minute. They are very "skittish".

389 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:07:36am

re: #384 Dustyvet

It's been 41 years since I came home from Vietnam, *cough* Where's that damn bottle of Geritol...:)

Oh, wow. You are old.

/just kidding

390 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:07:38am

re: #384 Dustyvet

It's been 41 years since I came home from Vietnam, *cough* Where's that damn bottle of Geritol...:)

Behind the viagra, in front of the Absorbine Junior, next to your teeth jar, under the depends box.

391 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:07:50am

re: #377 BaseballMom57

Good Samaritan's a heck of a hospital.
I'm looking forward to hearing of him making a full recovery.
/jet-skiing on the river ... (-:

392 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:08:10am

Grad missile hits empty kindergarten in Ashdod
Published: 01.05.09, 15:25 / Israel News
A Grad missile fired from the Gaza Strip landed in a kindergarten in Ashdod. Several people suffered from shock and the place was damaged.

Air Raid sirens also sounded in Ashkelon a short while ago. (Shmulik Hadad)

Hamas accused Israel of hiding a cache of crayons in the basement?

393 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:08:23am

re: #384 Dustyvet

It's been 41 years since I came home from Vietnam, *cough* Where's that damn bottle of Geritol...:)

I never knew the US sent child soldiers to Vietnam....

:-)

394 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:08:35am

re: #389 Ford_Prefect

Oh, wow. You are old.

/just kidding

I am, now take your foot off my O2 line please...:)

395 elevenbravo1969  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:08:36am

I think I've got all you guys beat...I was born during WWII.

396 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:09:00am

re: #387 scottishbuzzsaw

Good to see you, too, HH...did you have a nice holiday season?

Very nice...and yourself?

397 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:09:22am

re: #393 aussiemagpie

I never knew the US sent child soldiers to Vietnam....

:-)

Why do you think they have the Infantry?...:)

398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:09:49am

re: #395 elevenbravo1969

Be careful. I have seen several (at least 3) articles over the past few weeks about the "oldest person in the world dies"....

399 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:10:24am

re: #396 HoosierHoops

Very nice...and yourself?

It was lovely, thanks.

400 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:10:45am

re: #394 Dustyvet

I am, now take your foot off my O2 line please...:)

Oops. Sorry.

401 Macker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:11:08am

Mutter mutter mumble mumble....

(Good Morning Lizards! in Wakeupspeak)

402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:11:40am
403 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:11:43am

Morning, all. Welcome to the New Year. Here's the latest from the fake Christian "social justice" moonbat on another site...

Finally, you wrote that criticizing Israel in most groups is safe. Your actual words were "very safe."
Contrary to what you say, it is nothing short of political suicide to criticize Israel. Any criticism gets met with charges of anti-Semetism. EVERY politician pays homage to AIPAC, ranked by Forbes Magazine a few years ago as being the second most powerful lobby in America, right behing the farm lobby. Why should one tiny nation have such a powerful lobby?

I understand this is hugely subjective, but does anyone know how I could quantify anti-Israeli statements as the "cause celebre" that it is?

404 summergurl  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:11:55am

re: #362
re: #373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Today I get to see an ex-girlfriend from High School. We were talking and she said, "What's it been, thirty years?"

Remember when people said "I haven't seen him in 20 years" and you thought they were ancient?

Oh. That left a mark.

Is Mrs. FBV going with you?

405 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:12:02am

re: #397 Dustyvet

Why do you think they have the Infantry?...:)

LOL! Good one - at least your brain is functioning even though some other bits not be!

406 elevenbravo1969  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:12:02am

re: #398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let me put it this way...when you get to age 112 or so, seriously, what do you look forward to at that point?

407 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:12:10am

re: #395 elevenbravo1969

I think I've got all you guys beat...I was born during WWII.

So was the 101st.

408 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:12:16am

re: #392 Nevergiveup

Hamas likely considers that a failure since the school wasn't full of kids future IDF soldiers.

409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:12:26am

re: #406 elevenbravo1969

Let me put it this way...when you get to age 112 or so, seriously, what do you look forward to at that point?

113?

410 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:12:30am

re: #397 Dustyvet

Why do you think they have the Infantry?...:)

First *spew* of the New Year! *mops up keyboard*

411 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:13:16am

re: #401 Macker

Mutter mutter mumble mumble....

(Good Morning Lizards! in Wakeupspeak)

412 summergurl  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:13:23am

re: #378 sattv4u2

not to mention those unsavory tech savvy Amish


And Molly's Militia? You know there is something covert going on there ---

413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:13:51am

re: #404 summergurl

Is Mrs. FBV going with you?

Nah. She knows about it, and knows I am harmless.

She turned out to be a professor at a maaaaaajor university. I'm proud of her. Gonna be nice to see her. Having lunch, taking her to airport.

414 Hard Right  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:13:55am

re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

113?


Tomorrow.

415 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:14:54am

re: #393 aussiemagpie

You silver-tongued devil, you!
Flattery will get you EVERYWHERE!

416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:15:03am

re: #414 Hard Right

pretty much.

Unless I am in incoherent babbling senile old idiot. If that is the case, please, put me on an ice floe.

417 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:15:04am

re: #406 elevenbravo1969

Let me put it this way...when you get to age 112 or so, seriously, what do you look forward to at that point?

The next trip to the bathroom?

418 summergurl  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:15:20am

re: #397 Dustyvet

Why do you think they have the Infantry?...:)

Too clever not to upding -

419 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:15:45am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees going up to 69 degrees) but foggy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

420 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:16:59am

Good morning all. My brother just sent me a link to just about the coolest BASE jumping video I have ever seen and I thought I would share.

421 BaseballMom57  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:17:06am

re: #391 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes, it is. Thank you!

Well, I'm off to take my high schooler back to school (first day after "Winter Break").

I hate "Winter Break". IT'S FRIGGIN' CHRISTMAS VACATION, YOU MORONS!

Whew. Feel better now.

Have a good one, Lizards! I'll be back for the evening threads!

422 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:17:53am

re: #419 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees going up to 69 degrees) but foggy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Good Morning!

423 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:18:10am

re: #419 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees going up to 69 degrees) but foggy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Good morning, {real}! Doing better now that the coffee's kicking in...how are you?

424 summergurl  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:18:20am

re: #406 elevenbravo1969

Let me put it this way...when you get to age 112 or so, seriously, what do you look forward to at that point?

Birthday Cake

425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:18:32am

re: #420 Creeping Eruption

Is it me? Or those guys nuts?

426 bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:18:34am

re: #419 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees going up to 69 degrees) but foggy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Mornin' R Dubya - 69 degrees? That is NOT fair.

427 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:19:13am

re: #420 Creeping Eruption

Good morning all. My brother just sent me a link to just about the coolest BASE jumping video I have ever seen and I thought I would share.

[Link: vimeo.com...]

Very cool.

The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
--Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
428 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:19:29am

re: #419 realwest

Morning Real.

429 summergurl  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:19:35am

re: #413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nah. She knows about it, and knows I am harmless.

She turned out to be a professor at a maaaaaajor university. I'm proud of her. Gonna be nice to see her. Having lunch, taking her to airport.


Hubby has an issue with being "harmless" I told him that and he seem to find that as an insult. LOL

430 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:19:55am

re: #422 pre-Boomer Marine brat Good morning - how are you doing this morning (and I think I've said this before, but it bears repeating I just LOVE your new avatar! LOL).

431 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:20:15am

re: #406 elevenbravo1969

Let me put it this way...when you get to age 112 or so, seriously, what do you look forward to at that point?

NOW

432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:20:56am

re: #429 summergurl

Hubby has an issue with being "harmless" I told him that and he seem to find that as an insult. LOL

No, silly. She doesn't call me harmless, she knows I am harmless. Big difference.

433 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:21:25am

re: #425 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nuts. But it sure looks fun.

434 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:22:03am

re: #423 scottishbuzzsaw
Hi scottie! Well I'm on my third cup of coffee and neither of the first two has kicked in yet, so I'm still waiting! LOL! I am glad that at least you're doing better!
Actually that was a lie; I'm off to the doc's in a little while and am, AS ALWAYS, tense about that! But otherwise I'm just fine, thanks!

435 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:22:17am

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

My Prediction:

Reid and Durbin reach a "Compromise" in which they agree to seat Burris and he agrees to not run in two years.

Burris, in two years, 'forgets' his agreement and runs.

The Illinois Republican party, sensing an easy victory runs an utterly flawed candidate and loses and wonders why.

The Illinois people continue to lose.

Normal politics here in the Land of Lincoln.

436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:22:33am

re: #433 Creeping Eruption

Nuts. But it sure looks fun.

True. Fun in a "screaming as you plummet toward the earth at a hundred miles an hour soiling yourself as you fall" kind of way.

437 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:22:41am

re: #415 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You silver-tongued devil, you!
Flattery will get you EVERYWHERE!

You are the BEST!

(That OK?)

438 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:22:58am

re: #436 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

True. Fun in a "screaming as you plummet toward the earth at a hundred miles an hour soiling yourself as you fall" kind of way.

LOL. Something like that.

439 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:23:09am
440 summergurl  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:23:11am

re: #432 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No, silly. She doesn't call me harmless, she knows I am harmless. Big difference.


I get it now...

And when I told him he was harmless he said "yup, you're one lucky woman"... (he finally stopped that "hitched to the post" comment)

441 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:23:12am

re: #435 TaeJohnDo

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

My Prediction:

Reid and Durbin reach a "Compromise" in which they agree to seat Burris and he agrees to not run in two years.

Burris, in two years, 'forgets' his agreement and runs.

The Illinois Republican party, sensing an easy victory runs an utterly flawed candidate and loses and wonders why.

The Illinois people continue to lose.

Normal politics here in the Land of Lincoln.

Sounds about right to me.

442 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:23:48am

re: #434 realwest

Actually that was a lie; I'm off to the doc's in a little while and am, AS ALWAYS, tense about that! But otherwise I'm just fine, thanks!

Hell of a way to start your week...thoughts and prayers are with you, {real}!

443 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:23:53am

re: #430 realwest

Good morning - how are you doing this morning (and I think I've said this before, but it bears repeating I just LOVE your new avatar! LOL).

You did say it, yesterday. See my #343 pre-Boomer Marine brat upstairs, sent with love to Hamas.

GO EAGLE!

444 rain of lead  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:24:00am

todays gorebull warming update
the sun is still asleep

445 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:24:30am

re: #429 summergurl

Hubby has an issue with being "harmless" I told him that and he seem to find that as an insult. LOL


Anything that happens, happens.

Anything that, in happening, causes something else to happen, causes something else to happen.

Anything that, in happening, causes itself to happen again, happens again.

It doesn't necessarily do it in chronological order, though.

-Douglas Adams (Opening to his book Mostly Harmless)

446 tfc3rid  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:24:33am

Good Monday morning Lizards.

I managed to see the arrival of The Chosen One in his 'United States of America' aircraft last night... I was appalled with his seal of the President of the United States as he walked out... Last I checked George W. Bush is the President of United States...

I see so much hand wringing and nonsense from Palestinian supporters and anti-Semites over Israel's invasion of Gaza. Good for Israel. It's about damn time they defend themselves. The UN gets together and trys to bring about peace and BS... Of course, they all want to ding down Israel and not threaten the Palis... For the Pali people... You lie down with dogs, this is what you get...

447 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:25:36am

re: #426 bloodnok
ROTFL! No it's not fair and neither is the forecast for tomorrow - high of 53, low of 47! Tease us with ONE day of warm weather and then slam us with colder (and, accoding to the forecast and much wetter - supposed to rain really hard tomorrow - weather)!
I'd rather stay around one temperature than have my body sneeze all the time cause of the changes in temps!

448 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:25:45am

re: #419 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (53 degrees going up to 69 degrees) but foggy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

*Smooch* from your Aussie friend :-)

449 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:25:53am

The EU's foreign policy chief says European monitors that were once at Gaza's border with Egypt would be ready to return to work at the crossing after a cease-fire in Gaza is achieved.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

And that's because they did such a cracker jack job last time?

450 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:25:59am

re: #421 BaseballMom57

Yes, it is. Thank you!

Well, I'm off to take my high schooler back to school (first day after "Winter Break").

I hate "Winter Break". IT'S FRIGGIN' CHRISTMAS VACATION, YOU MORONS!

Whew. Feel better now.

Have a good one, Lizards! I'll be back for the evening threads!

I received a "Happy Holiday Card" this Christmas from USC asking for donations. They mentioned every thing but Christmas in their appeal. I sent them a note -- no mention of Christmas, no need for me to send money.

451 summergurl  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:26:08am

Will check back in later----
time to use the treadmill

452 bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:26:10am

re: #444 rain of lead

todays gorebull warming update
the sun is still asleep

It's also on fire. People can be careless these days...

453 Karridine  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:26:44am

From jasmine-scented 2125 Monday-evening in the now-darkened suburbs of Bangkok, I bid fond adieu to Lizardim upthread and down, knowing that most of you are looking forward to a Mighty Monday Morning while I am looking at the soft embrace of Morpheus...

/Go, Israel! Detoxify the venomous scum and their Qassam rockets and their incessant Jew-hatred! All best to yah, Justice-loving Jews! :D

454 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:26:50am

re: #428 Ford_Prefect
Hi ya Ford! How are you doing today?

455 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:26:58am

re: #446 tfc3rid

Good Monday morning Lizards.

I managed to see the arrival of The Chosen One in his 'United States of America' aircraft last night... I was appalled with his seal of the President of the United States as he walked out... Last I checked George W. Bush is the President of United States...

I see so much hand wringing and nonsense from Palestinian supporters and anti-Semites over Israel's invasion of Gaza. Good for Israel. It's about damn time they defend themselves. The UN gets together and trys to bring about peace and BS... Of course, they all want to ding down Israel and not threaten the Palis... For the Pali people... You lie down with dogs, this is what you get...

Are you sure it was his seal and not the seal of the US Air Force? It was a Air Force plane.

456 rain of lead  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:27:28am

re: #452 bloodnok

It's also on fire. People can be careless these days...

yep, see what happins when you play with matches

457 Macker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:27:32am

re: #411 Dustyvet

Now THAT's one hell of a wake-up call!

458 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:27:44am

re: #437 aussiemagpie

You are the BEST!

(That OK?)

Of course.

/btw, explanation of mindset, my current b*tch is about "The Lighthorsemen" not being available on DVD for the USA. I'm afraid my VHS tape of it will get worn out!

459 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:27:49am

re: #451 summergurl

Will check back in later----
time to use the treadmill

for what? Mine makes a good coat rack !

460 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:27:53am

re: #449 Nevergiveup
Well hey, they've got experience, don't they?!?

461 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:28:03am

re: #451 summergurl

Will check back in later----
time to use the treadmill

Now WHY did you have to go and remind me about one of those New Year's resolutions I felt it necessary to make?!? ;>)

462 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:28:20am

re: #435 TaeJohnDo

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

My Prediction:

Reid and Durbin reach a "Compromise" in which they agree to seat Burris and he agrees to not run in two years.

Burris, in two years, 'forgets' his agreement and runs.

The Illinois Republican party, sensing an easy victory runs an utterly flawed candidate and loses and wonders why.

The Illinois people continue to lose.

Normal politics here in the Land of Lincoln.

I agree with the first part but not the second. My prediction:

The GOP takes both Obama's old Senate seat and the Governorship in Illinois in 2010. The question is whether they can take enough State Senate seats to allow a Republican governor to be effective.

463 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:28:54am

re: #460 realwest

Well hey, they've got experience, don't they?!?

Experience looking the other way, sure.

464 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:28:58am

re: #448 aussiemagpie
Oooh, thank you very much {aussie} and a *smooch* right back to you! How are you doing this early morn?
Chardy handy?!

465 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:29:03am

re: #447 realwest

Good morning real.

I think the Giants should have a very easy time of it next week against Philly.

Just put a spy on Westbrook and McNabb will be stymied.

466 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:29:10am

UAW bosses busted in this investigative vid....lying, cheating, crooks and everyone turns a blind eye....bailout?....sure when the UAW bends over but not until...it's our money

[Link: www.clickondetroit.com...]

467 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:29:42am

Good morning everyone.

468 Macker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:30:13am

re: #435 TaeJohnDo

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

My Prediction:

Reid and Durbin reach a "Compromise" in which they agree to seat Burris and he agrees to not run in two years.

Burris, in two years, 'forgets' his agreement and runs.

The Illinois Republican party, sensing an easy victory runs an utterly flawed candidate and loses and wonders why.

The Illinois people continue to lose.

Normal politics here in the Land of Lincoln People's Republic of Illinois.

The Illinois GOP had better get their balls quick!

469 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:30:15am

re: #442 scottishbuzzsaw
Hey {scottie} thank you very much for the prayers and kind thoughts, they are very much appreciated!

470 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:30:57am

re: #468 Macker

The Illinois GOP had better get their balls quick!

Well first Norm Coleman has to use them, then you can have them.

471 Hard Right  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:31:10am

re: #416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

pretty much.

Unless I am in incoherent babbling senile old idiot. If that is the case, please, put me on an ice floe.

In AZ we let you drive on the freeway.

472 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:31:20am

re: #467 FrogMarch

Good morning everyone.

Good Morning.

473 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:32:07am

re: #467 FrogMarch

Good morning everyone.

Mornin' Frog! How've you been?

474 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:32:09am

re: #454 realwest

Hi ya Ford! How are you doing today?

Well, I am back at work after being off for a week and a half, but other than that I am fine. Except, that is, for the fact that I have a nasty cold. And I keep having to run to the bathroom because I drank too much coffee in order to get up so I could come in to work. And I am out of coffee. Other than that though...

475 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:32:23am

re: #457 Macker

Now THAT's one hell of a wake-up call!

:)...Yeah!

476 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:32:31am

re: #443 pre-Boomer Marine brat LOL! Well it can't be said often enough - that's just a clever and funny avatar and yet so full of meaning. And yes, go IAF! Go IDF! Kick some butt today while the effin' UN tries to resolve your future for you *spit*.

477 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:33:14am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

I agree with the first part but not the second. My prediction:

The GOP takes both Obama's old Senate seat and the Governorship in Illinois in 2010. The question is whether they can take enough State Senate seats to allow a Republican governor to be effective.

Burris has already said that he intends to run again in 2 years to keep the seat.

And from Brad Bigg's sports column in the Sun Times is this little comment you might be interested in:

Smith is expected to add former Detroit Lions coach Rod Marinelli to his staff. The two met Friday at Halas Hall and things could fall in place quickly.

478 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:33:52am

re: #471 Hard Right

In AZ we let you drive on the freeway.

In TN they can too, as long as they have a turn signal on the whole trip.

479 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:34:07am

{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* I hope everything goes well for you today.

480 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:34:11am

re: #468 Macker

The Illinois GOP had better get their balls quick!

The Illinois GOP is dysfunctional.

481 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:34:25am

re: #476 realwest

LOL! Well it can't be said often enough - that's just a clever and funny avatar and yet so full of meaning. And yes, go IAF! Go IDF! Kick some butt today while the effin' UN tries to resolve your future for you *spit*.

Using UN Ambulances for moving armed thugs is not a great start...

482 Macker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:34:28am

re: #470 Nevergiveup

Well first Norm Coleman has to use them, then you they can have them.

I haven't lived in that state since 12:06 PM CST, 1/6/1989.

483 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:34:50am

re: #474 Ford_Prefect

Except, that is, for the fact that I have a nasty cold. And I keep having to run to the bathroom because I drank too much coffee in order to get up so I could come in to work. And I am out of coffee. Other than that though...

*passes the tissues, cough drops, and a pot of traditional roast*

484 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:35:02am

re: #446 tfc3rid
Good morning my friend. Uh

I managed to see the arrival of The Chosen One in his 'United States of America' aircraft last night... I was appalled with his seal of the President of the United States as he walked out...


WTH are you saying - is Obama now flying in Air Force One?! And why is he in NYC? Oh, wait, he wants to make sure Caroline Kennedy gets that senate seat, assuming she can find her way to NYC!

485 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:35:25am

re: #471 Hard Right

In AZ we let you drive on the freeway.

Heh. Back in the late 80's, a Tucson fire district ladder truck (running code) was broadsided in a major intersection by an old snowbird coot in a full-size pickup. The coot's roadway was 6-lane, plus turn bays.

486 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:35:57am

re: #465 3 wood

Good morning real.

I think the Giants should have a very easy time of it next week against Philly.

Just put a spy on Westbrook and McNabb will be stymied.

I stopped betting on the NFL years back for the most part...you just never know...this game could turn into a ho-hum sack fest...but with Philly McNabb is always the weakest link and like they say the QB must play well in the playoffs

487 Hard Right  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:36:11am

re: #478 AmeriDan

In TN they can too, as long as they have a turn signal on the whole trip.


Ha. We make them go 10 under the speed limit while in the fast lane.

488 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:36:14am

re: #484 realwest

Good morning my friend. Uh


WTH are you saying - is Obama now flying in Air Force One?! And why is he in NYC? Oh, wait, he wants to make sure Caroline Kennedy gets that senate seat, assuming she can find her way to NYC!

She goes to Boston and takes a left?

489 razorbacker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:36:15am

re: #478 AmeriDan

In TN they can too, as long as they have a turn signal on the whole trip.

What is this 'turn signal' of which you speak?

The concept sounds strangely useful, were it to be made universally available.

490 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:36:30am

re: #471 Hard Right

In AZ we let you drive on the freeway.

That's the fourth keyboard I've ruined this week.

*swab*swab*

491 Macker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:36:48am

re: #485 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh. Back in the late 80's, a Tucson fire district ladder truck (running code) was broadsided in a major intersection by an old snowbird coot in a full-size pickup. The coot's roadway was 6-lane, plus turn bays.

Doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to determine who won that matchup!

492 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:37:58am

re: #481 Dustyvet

Using UN Ambulances for moving armed thugs is not a great start...

Again?

493 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:38:22am

re: #490 Miss Trixie

That's the fourth keyboard I've ruined this week.

*swab*swab*

The greatest hazard of being a Lizard/ette! Good morning, Miss Trixie...staying warm?

494 beblebrox  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:39:31am

re: #489 razorbacker

What is this 'turn signal' of which you speak?

The concept sounds strangely useful, were it to be made universally available.

You have to be the member of the Secret Society of Drivers to be inducted into it's usage. Kinda like parallel parking.

495 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:39:36am

I have a question that maybe some of you know the answer to. The media keeps bringing up this whole situation with the White House guest quarters being booked so the Obama family has to stay at a hotel. What is the normal protocol for the President elect as far as this goes? Does he normally move to Washington this early? If so, then why would Bush's people have booked those quarters? And doesn't Obama already have a place to stay in Washington? I mean he is a Senator isn't he?

496 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:39:40am

re: #462 Dark_Falcon

I agree with the first part but not the second. My prediction:

The GOP takes both Obama's old Senate seat and the Governorship in Illinois in 2010. The question is whether they can take enough State Senate seats to allow a Republican governor to be effective.


I hope you are correct, my friend!

497 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:39:47am

re: #480 3 wood

The Illinois GOP is dysfunctional.


why limit it !?!?!?

498 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:39:49am

re: #465 3 wood
Good morning 3 wood - I sure hope you're right, cause the Vikings defense couldn't really read McNab or Westbrook very well yesterday!

BTW - I've been meaning to ask you this: Since Blago hasn't been indicted or arrested or impeached, then he's still the legal Governor of Illinois, right? SO how the hell can the Democrats refuse to seat Burris? I mean on what grounds - or are the Dems just RACISTS as I've suspected all along!
:)

499 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:39:56am

re: #491 Macker

Doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to determine who won that matchup!

By the grace of G*d, the old coot and his wife weren't seriously injured. The fire truck was a "tele-squirt" type, not a full-size ladder. Its frame was bent. Had to be loaded on a flatbed and taken to the manufacturer's plant for straightening.

500 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:40:30am

re: #483 scottishbuzzsaw

*passes the tissues, cough drops, and a pot of traditional roast*

Thank you dear, you the second best. (My wife wouldn't be happy if I said you were the best)

501 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:40:36am

re: #490 Miss Trixie

Good Morning, Miss Trixie.

502 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:40:42am

re: #490 Miss Trixie

That's the fourth keyboard I've ruined this week.

*swab*swab*

You need to get one of those keyboard condoms like my dental hygenist has at her station. I'm not sure what it is doing to keep things clean because she doesn't change it or wipe it down between patients, but there it is "protecting" her from germy keyboards just the same.

503 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:41:05am

re: #495 Ford_Prefect

I have a question that maybe some of you know the answer to. The media keeps bringing up this whole situation with the White House guest quarters being booked so the Obama family has to stay at a hotel. What is the normal protocol for the President elect as far as this goes? Does he normally move to Washington this early? If so, then why would Bush's people have booked those quarters? And doesn't Obama already have a place to stay in Washington? I mean he is a Senator isn't he?

No he usually comes just a few days before the Inauguration. This early is unusual, but understandable since his kids are starting school, but the Blair House was booked. It is no big deal.

504 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:41:55am

re: #495 Ford_Prefect

I mean he is a Senator isn't he?

Maybe we should be asking if he was actually present all those times he voted that way.

505 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:41:59am

re: #489 razorbacker

What is this 'turn signal' of which you speak?

The concept sounds strangely useful, were it to be made universally available.

You must be from Massachusetts.

506 Macker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:42:01am

re: #499 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Are you a Tusconian BTW?

507 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:42:09am

re: #498 realwest

SO how the hell can the Democrats refuse to seat Burris?

I would imagine it would be like you taking cash knowing it was stolen from a bank. They know the appointment will be tainted as soon as he is indicted

508 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:42:09am

re: #458 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Of course.

/btw, explanation of mindset, my current b*tch is about "The Lighthorsemen" not being available on DVD for the USA. I'm afraid my VHS tape of it will get worn out!

That movie depicts a great moment in Aussie military history - the raid on Beersheba

The sad thing about the making of the movie - Jon Blake, who plays Scotty, was badly injured in a car accident and suffered severe brain damage - I think the accident was during filming or right at the end of it

And I hope you find a DVD of it!

509 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:42:26am

re: #503 Nevergiveup

No he usually comes just a few days before the Inauguration. This early is unusual, but understandable since his kids are starting school, but the Blair House was booked. It is no big deal.

Well the Washington D. C. YMCA used to rent rooms...:)

510 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:42:44am

Given the propensity for leaks coming out of the Israeli Government, I am amazed how little information we are getting. It is good that peoples lips are sealed, just surprising.

511 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:42:48am

re: #500 Ford_Prefect

Thank you dear, you the second best. (My wife wouldn't be happy if I said you were the best)

Wise man, just like my husband! ;>) Hope you feel better soon...

512 Macker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:43:01am

re: #503 Nevergiveup

For us, no big deal...but for The One™?

513 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:43:14am

re: #487 Hard Right

Ha. We make them go 10 under the speed limit while in the fast lane.

We have height requirements... their line of sight must be below the dashboard.

re: #489 razorbacker

What is this 'turn signal' of which you speak?

The concept sounds strangely useful, were it to be made universally available.

I'm only 44 years old so I have no idea either. Go to an early bird special at a restaurant someday and listen to the chatter. I believe that's where they hold strategy sessions.

514 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:43:26am

re: #495 Ford_Prefect

It is not normal. Protocol is they move into Blair House just a few days before inaugeration. Leave it to the media to portray Obama hubris as Obama victimhood.

515 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:43:40am

re: #506 Macker

Are you a Tusconian BTW?

Lived there for 25 years (during middle-age.)
Now in Dallas.

516 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:44:00am

re: #467 FrogMarch
Hey, good morning Frog, how are you today?

517 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:44:02am

re: #509 Dustyvet

Well the Washington D. C. YMCA used to rent rooms...:)

It's fun to stay in the...

518 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:44:35am

re: #512 Macker

For us, no big deal...but for The One™?

Boo Hoo, to freaken en bad

519 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:44:36am

re: #513 AmeriDan

I'm only 44 years old so I have no idea either. Go to an early bird special at a restaurant someday and listen to the chatter. I believe that's where they hold strategy sessions.

LOL. Like the "Grey Dawn" episode of South Park.

520 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:45:04am

re: #517 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's fun to stay in the...

And there must be a Youth Hostel somewhere in D C...

521 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:45:07am

re: #470 Nevergiveup
I thought Coleman was using 'em - isn't he going to court over Franken's "victory"?!

522 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:45:15am

re: #509 Dustyvet

Well the Washington D. C. YMCA used to rent rooms...:)

But he can't stay at the YMCA.

He isn't C and wasn't born in A!

/conspiracy

523 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:45:17am

re: #464 realwest

Oooh, thank you very much {aussie} and a *smooch* right back to you! How are you doing this early morn?
Chardy handy?!

Thanks {darls} and of course the chardy is right here - you are all soaking up the coffee while I'm sipping my lovely cold Aussie chardy

Doctors visit today? Best wishes for that and I hope the visit goes well

524 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:45:20am

re: #494 beblebrox

You have to be the member of the Secret Society of Drivers to be inducted into it's usage. Kinda like parallel parking.

We're on the same page.

525 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:45:21am

re: #466 albusteve

UAW bosses busted in this investigative vid....lying, cheating, crooks and everyone turns a blind eye....bailout?....sure when the UAW bends over but not until...it's our money

[Link: www.clickondetroit.com...]

THANK YOU FOR THAT LINK.

The UAW is cancer for business. Is it any wonder the UAW is in bed with the democrat party?

Spread that video far and wide!

526 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:45:39am

re: #520 Dustyvet

And there must be a Youth Hostel somewhere in D C...

or a Bed and Breakfast...

527 razorbacker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:45:56am

re: #494 beblebrox

You have to be the member of the Secret Society of Drivers to be inducted into it's usage. Kinda like parallel parking.

Oh. Well, thanks ever so much but I simply don't have time to learn another secret handshake, buy new robes (unless you'd accept a slightly soiled snuggie, darn that Gearhead) and join another lodge.

Prolly interfere with the weekly Illuminati meetings, anyway.

528 yochanan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:46:06am

a small step forward on my grandson, they took out the i.v. he is eating during the day but needs the feeding tube at nite and early morning. he is becoming more awake. and my D.I.L. is now home resting.

529 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:46:12am

re: #493 scottishbuzzsaw

The greatest hazard of being a Lizard/ette! Good morning, Miss Trixie...staying warm?

Morning, toots. It's not too chilly however, the sun is shining and it's snowing like hell. You can see from here, if you're so inclined.

Now it's stopped snowing - I think I inadvertently sent it south ...

LOOK OUT OHIO!

*giggle*

PBMB

Morning, toots! What snoo?

530 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:46:28am

re: #508 aussiemagpie

Didn't know that about Blake. Thanks.

I'm not sure the sucker's EVER been on DVD in North America. Possibly something to do with whoever holds the rights to reproduction in that format. Often does.

531 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:46:31am

re: #521 realwest

I thought Coleman was using 'em - isn't he going to court over Franken's "victory"?!

Not sure. We shall see We shall see?

532 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:46:33am

re: #504 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Maybe we should be asking if he was actually present all those times he voted that way.

Obama: "Oh, is that what that means? I thought we were voting on giving out presents?"

533 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:46:36am

re: #498 realwest

Good morning 3 wood - I sure hope you're right, cause the Vikings defense couldn't really read McNab or Westbrook very well yesterday!

BTW - I've been meaning to ask you this: Since Blago hasn't been indicted or arrested or impeached, then he's still the legal Governor of Illinois, right? SO how the hell can the Democrats refuse to seat Burris? I mean on what grounds - or are the Dems just RACISTS as I've suspected all along!
:)


There is no legal reason why they can refuse to seat him. They know it. He will be seated. Seated -- ass -- there is a pun there somewhere, just trying to burst out, I know it.

534 opnion  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:46:40am

re: #480 3 wood

The Illinois GOP is dysfunctional.


The same party that recruited Alan Keyes to run against BHO for the U.S Senate. Brilliant!

535 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:46:45am

re: #474 Ford_Prefect
ROFL! Oh yeah, Monday (or whichever is the FIRST day back at work) after any time off that's more than 48 hours in duration is always a bitch. Hang in there - you'll get used to manning the oars in no time at all!

536 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:47:16am

re: #466 albusteve

UAW bosses busted in this investigative vid....lying, cheating, crooks and everyone turns a blind eye....bailout?....sure when the UAW bends over but not until...it's our money

[Link: www.clickondetroit.com...]

After the commercial at the beginning - everyone should watch this video.
Seriously sad reality about how the UAW is ruining the American Auto Industry.
and the dems are promoting it - and vilifying non-union run plants.

537 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:47:30am

re: #522 Silhouette

But he can't stay at the YMCA.

He isn't C and wasn't born in A!

/conspiracy

This T-shirt may fit Obama well.

538 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:47:52am

re: #526 Dustyvet

or a Bed and Breakfast...

Yeah but at the Hey-Adams you get a bed, a Breakfast, and a Mint.

539 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:48:12am

re: #514 Silhouette

It is not normal. Protocol is they move into Blair House just a few days before inaugeration. Leave it to the media to portray Obama hubris as Obama victimhood.

That is the way I read it. They seem to be implying that he is being slighted somehow.

540 itellu3times  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:48:39am

re: #15 zombie

Oh Schadenfreude,
Oh Schadenfreude,
How evergreen thy branches!

... plus, it gives me some interesting new business ideas!

ps - don't worry, I'm sure very very little of the money, actually gets to those causes!

541 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:48:46am

re: #535 realwest

ROFL! Oh yeah, Monday (or whichever is the FIRST day back at work) after any time off that's more than 48 hours in duration is always a bitch. Hang in there - you'll get used to manning the oars in no time at all!

Somebody mention oars?


542 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:48:55am

re: #528 yochanan

a small step forward on my grandson, they took out the i.v. he is eating during the day but needs the feeding tube at nite and early morning. he is becoming more awake. and my D.I.L. is now home resting.

IIRC, you have a son in the IDF.
How is he? Safe?

543 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:49:10am

re: #521 realwest

I thought Coleman was using 'em - isn't he going to court over Franken's "victory"?!


Coleman will lose. Very sorry to say that. So Minn gets 6 years of frackin' franken.

So very sad. I'm getting depressed by this thread.

Anyone want to talk boobs? But I'm at work -- won't do me any good to go there. It is hard to make the breast of it at work.

544 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:49:11am

Excellent quote from Philip K. Dick.

Now please explain where in hell did Franken find those last 226 votes?

545 razorbacker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:49:15am

re: #495 Ford_Prefect

I have a question that maybe some of you know the answer to. The media keeps bringing up this whole situation with the White House guest quarters being booked so the Obama family has to stay at a hotel. What is the normal protocol for the President elect as far as this goes? Does he normally move to Washington this early? If so, then why would Bush's people have booked those quarters? And doesn't Obama already have a place to stay in Washington? I mean he is a Senator isn't he?

You absolutely need to get with the program. We all have a right to government-subsidised housing, to go along with our health care.

'Stay at a hotel', indeed! How is the government supposed to know where to send the check?

546 tfc3rid  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:49:20am

re: #455 Nevergiveup

Are you sure it was his seal and not the seal of the US Air Force? It was a Air Force plane.

You can find pics... It was the Seal of the President of the United States...

547 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:49:32am

re: #519 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

LOL. Like the "Grey Dawn" episode of South Park.

If it's not on ESPN or CMT I haven't seen it.

548 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:49:35am

re: #481 Dustyvet
Un Ambulances? Well how can that be?!
/
Morning Dusty!

549 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:49:48am

re: #538 Nevergiveup

Yeah but at the Hey-Adams you get a bed, a Breakfast, and a Mint.

Our tax dollars at work...1 mint $65.00...

550 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:49:53am

re: #532 Ford_Prefect

Obama: "Oh, is that what that means? I thought we were voting on giving out presents?"

And he always thought "gift" was spelled "graft".

551 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:49:58am

Ack. I see another storm rolling over the Gatineau Hills from my vantage point way up in the middle of downtown and it looks like we'll have mucho sneaux before the end of day.

How many weeks until it's #9834 Spring &#8734 ?

552 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:50:26am

re: #548 realwest

Un Ambulances? Well how can that be?!
/
Morning Dusty!

Morning Realwest...:)

553 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:50:38am

re: #525 FrogMarch

THANK YOU FOR THAT LINK.

The UAW is cancer for business. Is it any wonder the UAW is in bed with the democrat party?

Spread that video far and wide!

a nice package would be this vid and a quote from the UAW fatcat regarding how the southern Senators opposing the first bailout package were killing American jobs...what a farce...the UAW is in a world of hurt right now...strong arm politics and thuggery wont work this time

554 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:50:38am

re: #516 realwest

Hey, good morning Frog, how are you today?

Hi Realwest. I'm alright. But it's really cold here this AM. Thanks for asking. How are you?

555 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:50:58am

re: #551 Miss Trixie

Ack. I see another storm rolling over the Gatineau Hills from my vantage point way up in the middle of downtown and it looks like we'll have mucho sneaux before the end of day.

How many weeks until it's #9834 Spring ∞ ?

We've got less than a month before the groundhog tells us.

Until then, there is always Miami.

556 tfc3rid  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:51:11am

re: #484 realwest

Good morning my friend. Uh


WTH are you saying - is Obama now flying in Air Force One?! And why is he in NYC? Oh, wait, he wants to make sure Caroline Kennedy gets that senate seat, assuming she can find her way to NYC!

Obama flew into DC... He was in a 757, not AF One but the plane on the exterior looked a lot like AF One.

557 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:51:52am

re: #546 tfc3rid

You can find pics... It was the Seal of the President of the United States...

The it must be an alternate Presidential jet

558 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:52:09am

Morning Real! Morning Dusty! Morning FBV if you are around.

Real,

Just sent you an e-mail, hang in there, bro.

/getting on the treadmill (finally, long morning)... back in 30.

559 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:52:30am

re: #543 TaeJohnDo

Coleman will lose. Very sorry to say that. So Minn gets 6 years of frackin' franken.

So very sad. I'm getting depressed by this thread.

Anyone want to talk boobs? But I'm at work -- won't do me any good to go there. It is hard to make the breast of it at work.

You just need the proper support.

560 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:52:39am

re: #549 Dustyvet

Our tax dollars at work...1 mint $65.00...

Do you think we are paying for that or his inauguration committee?

561 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:52:40am

re: #538 Nevergiveup

Yeah but at the Hey-Adams you get a bed, a Breakfast, and a Mint.

No, not "Hey-", rather "Hay-".

Obama will be bedding down in the Hay.

Just like Jesus.

[pause to reflect on His Glowy Aura of Hopey Changefulness]

562 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:52:44am

re: #479 {Miss Trixie}
Hey there gorgeous! Thank you and lots of *smooochies* back atcha! Love that new avatar you've got, too!
I wonder if Polar Bears ever DO slip on the ice?!

563 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:53:05am

re: #556 tfc3rid

Obama flew into DC... He was in a 757, not AF One but the plane on the exterior looked a lot like AF One.

Oh that was Air Force 6/78ths...

564 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:53:14am

re: #15 zombie

While in general I support any scheme which separates a foolish moonbat from his money, in this instance the money is being scammed out of unwitting sucker moonbats and given to...other moonbats?!?!

There is no honor among thieves.

I know somebody who's on the board of Rock the Vote. He's an otherwise sensible business entrepreneur. I'd be interested to hear how loudly he squeals over the next four years.

565 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:53:37am

re: #560 Nevergiveup

Do you think we are paying for that or his inauguration committee?

Us of course...

566 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:54:03am

re: #495 Ford_Prefect

And doesn't Obama already have a place to stay in Washington? I mean he is a Senator isn't he?

That, indeed, is the part I haven't been able to figure out.

567 tfc3rid  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:54:09am

re: #557 Nevergiveup

The it must be an alternate Presidential jet

Possibly the Veeps plane. However, the seal there made me sick to my stomach... Then seeing him emerge made me want to cry or our futures...

568 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:54:13am

re: #488 Dustyvet
Right.................................... you are!

569 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:54:15am

re: #529 Miss Trixie

Morning, toots. It's not too chilly however, the sun is shining and it's snowing like hell. You can see from here, if you're so inclined.

Now it's stopped snowing - I think I inadvertently sent it south ...

LOOK OUT OHIO!

*giggle*

Nice shot...first time I looked it was bright and sunny...just refreshed and it's looking all gray and wintry...look out!

570 Super-ego  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:54:21am

re: #315 Rustler

President-elect Barack Obama

"The president-elect is closely monitoring global events, including the situation in Gaza," said Brooke Anderson, chief security spokeswoman for Obama's transition team. "There is one president at a time, and we intend to respect that."

There we go Obama's response to the Gaza Conflict. FBV you know you coulda guessed it without me quoting it.

Isn't this what Obama has always done by voting "present." You knew he was here, but never heard from him. I swear someone picked, groomed, and molded him to shine like a silver star that could never tarnish. How can anyone speak against your congressional history if you have none. He played it safe.

The Bush haters thought Bush was secretive. I have a feeling the Obama administration will not be transparent, but opaque. And if anyone says anything negative about Obama, they will be marked.

This will be an interesting administration to watch. I sincerely hope Obama succeeds as an American president standing up for America.

571 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:54:36am

re: #560 Nevergiveup

Do you think we are paying for that or his inauguration committee?

it's peanuts...jus sayin

572 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:54:41am

re: #553 albusteve

a nice package would be this vid and a quote from the UAW fatcat regarding how the southern Senators opposing the first bailout package were killing American jobs...what a farce...the UAW is in a world of hurt right now...strong arm politics and thuggery wont work this time

Bottom line- the UAW and the work ethic displayed in that video is just the tip ofthe ice berg. The UAW has killed the American Auto Industry. Way to go, Democrats. Thanks so much.
Now - in desperation and to avoid reality - The democrats and their surrogates in the media are attempting to vilify non-union run plants. Calling them "Slave owners". We live in Orwellian times.

573 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:55:07am

re: #559 AmeriDan

You just need the proper support.


Yes, something to lift me up, and separate me from my misery.

574 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:55:18am

re: #556 tfc3rid

Obama flew into DC... He was in a 757, not AF One but the plane on the exterior looked a lot like AF One.

Air Force one is ANY Air Force plane that the President of the United States is on. As is Marine One when the President is on his helicopter. There are alot of VIP_Presidential Planes in the fleet. That was one of the alternates, and is not designated Air Force One since he is not yet President.

575 tfc3rid  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:55:24am

re: #566 Occasional Reader

That, indeed, is the part I haven't been able to figure out.

Well, I mean he HAS been campaigning for his two years as a Senator, he really hasn't had a need for DC home...

576 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:55:27am

re: #566 Occasional Reader

That, indeed, is the part I haven't been able to figure out.

He gets a fox hole and a box of C-rats...

577 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:56:28am

re: #505 Ford_Prefect
LOL! Or North Carolina!

578 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:56:30am

re: #545 razorbacker

You absolutely need to get with the program. We all have a right to government-subsidised housing, to go along with our health care.

'Stay at a hotel', indeed! How is the government supposed to know where to send the check?

You are right. What was I thinking?

579 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:56:44am

re: #573 TaeJohnDo

Yes, something to lift me up, and separate me from my misery.

Are you jockeying to get strapped?

580 tfc3rid  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:56:50am

re: #574 Nevergiveup

Air Force one is ANY Air Force plane that the President of the United States is on. As is Marine One when the President is on his helicopter. There are alot of VIP_Presidential Planes in the fleet. That was one of the alternates, and is not designated Air Force One since he is not yet President.

Correct... My point was seeing the plane door open up and the Seal of the President put on the door before The One emerged...

581 yochanan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:56:54am

re: #541 Dustyvet

re: #541 Dustyvet

582 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:57:06am

re: #530 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Didn't know that about Blake. Thanks.

I'm not sure the sucker's EVER been on DVD in North America. Possibly something to do with whoever holds the rights to reproduction in that format. Often does.

I've found this, however we're Region 4, so the DVD would NOT play in the US unless you have a multizone player

However there is a bit of info for US customers

583 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:57:30am

re: #576 Dustyvet

He gets a fox hole and a box of C-rats...

Very fitting; after all, he once considered joining the military, or something like that.

584 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:58:05am

re: #507 sattv4u2
Well you may be right - IF Blago is indicted, but Fitz has been running this "investigation" for over two years now.
And what you suggested is no reason to not seat Burris now - not legally, anyway.

585 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:58:12am

re: #580 tfc3rid

Correct... My point was seeing the plane door open up and the Seal of the President put on the door before The One emerged...

Yeah, that ruined my appetite also.

586 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:58:38am

re: #578 Ford_Prefect

You are right. What was I thinking?

First three weeks of Desert Shield/Desert Storm we where housed in a Motel in San Antonio, with room service.

587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:58:51am

re: #582 aussiemagpie

I've found this, however we're Region 4, so the DVD would NOT play in the US unless you have a multizone player

However there is a bit of info for US customers

Why the devil are there different regions for DVD players anyway?

588 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:58:55am

re: #583 Occasional Reader

Very fitting; after all, he once considered joining the military, or something like that.

Well his dream came true, he got to go to a Marine gym?

589 razorbacker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:59:17am

HopeyChange!

Prez-Elect Makes New Pitch, Promises on Job Creation -- Including 600,000 New Government Employees

The president-elect says he wants to "create three million new jobs" -- this is a change from a few weeks ago, when he said he wanted the plan to create OR SAVE two million jobs.

He says the "No. 1 goal of my plan ... is to create three million new jobs, more than 80 percent of them in the private sector.”

If you do the math: 20 percent of three million means 600,000 new government employees.

Gosh. I wonder which will come first? The tax-paying private sector jobs or the tax-spending government jobs.

The anticipation has me all atingle, kinda like Chrissy.

Gotta stay away from Glenn Reynolds joint. Lots of depressing stuff there.

590 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:59:33am

re: #582 aussiemagpie

I've found this, however we're Region 4, so the DVD would NOT play in the US unless you have a multizone player

However there is a bit of info for US customers

You're right about the zoning, and I have toyed with the idea of getting a multi-zone player. There are some 40's/50's vintage British war movies for which it'd come in useful.

591 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:59:53am

re: #575 tfc3rid

Well, I mean he HAS been campaigning for his two years as a Senator, he really hasn't had a need for DC home...

But... but... but... Washingtonian magazine profiled him and Michelle as being among the most "Beautiful People in DC" back in 2006! Surely he must have been a bona fide resident?!

592 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:05am

re: #581 yochanan

re: #541 Dustyvet


DING!

593 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:09am

re: #584 realwest

Well you may be right - IF Blago is indicted, but Fitz has been running this "investigation" for over two years now.
And what you suggested is no reason to not seat Burris now - not legally, anyway.

Shouldn't Burris wait until he gets that whole "shooting myself in the leg in a nightclub" thing cleared up first?
/

594 bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:21am

re: #589 razorbacker

HopeyChange!

Prez-Elect Makes New Pitch, Promises on Job Creation -- Including 600,000 New Government Employees


Gosh. I wonder which will come first? The tax-paying private sector jobs or the tax-spending government jobs.

The anticipation has me all atingle, kinda like Chrissy.

Gotta stay away from Glenn Reynolds joint. Lots of depressing stuff there.

Those unicorns are going to require a lot of stable boys, doncha know...

595 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:44am

re: #588 Nevergiveup

Well his dream came true, he got to go to a Marine gym?

And now we're back full circle to BDVM's "It's fun to stay at the..." line.

596 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:56am

re: #523 aussiemagpie
"Doctors visit today? Best wishes for that and I hope the visit goes well" thank you kindly {aussie} the bad news is I go today; the worse news is I don't hear any results until tomorrow. It's what doctors here like to call a two-fer!

597 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:01:06am

re: #593 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Shouldn't Burris wait until he gets that whole "shooting myself in the leg in a nightclub" thing cleared up first?
/

He sure looks taller in person?

598 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:01:16am

re: #528 yochanan

a small step forward on my grandson, they took out the i.v. he is eating during the day but needs the feeding tube at nite and early morning. he is becoming more awake. and my D.I.L. is now home resting.

Good news, and so glad to hear this!

599 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:01:18am

re: #570 Super-ego

Isn't this what Obama has always done by voting "present." You knew he was here, but never heard from him. I swear someone picked, groomed, and molded him to shine like a silver star that could never tarnish. How can anyone speak against your congressional history if you have none. He played it safe.

The Bush haters thought Bush was secretive. I have a feeling the Obama administration will not be transparent, but opaque. And if anyone says anything negative about Obama, they will be marked.

This will be an interesting administration to watch. I sincerely hope Obama succeeds as an American president standing up for America.

Well, this time, he voted "Absent"
I really think he doesn't want to let on how anti-Israel he is.
Good thing Israel invaded Gaza while Bush is still in office.

600 opnion  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:01:30am

IL. Senate Appointee, Roland Burris will fly from Chicago's Midway Airport today to D.C. The plan is to show up at the Senate tomorrow to be seated.
What do Reid & the Senate Democrats do, seat Franken & deny Burris?

601 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:04am

re: #596 realwest

"Doctors visit today? Best wishes for that and I hope the visit goes well" thank you kindly {aussie} the bad news is I go today; the worse news is I don't hear any results until tomorrow. It's what doctors here like to call a two-fer!

You mean a Paradox?

602 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:18am

re: #593 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Shouldn't Burris wait until he gets that whole "shooting myself in the leg in a nightclub" thing cleared up first?
/

No no no... this is Burris! Raymond Burris! AKA "Ironside".

603 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:51am

re: #601 Dustyvet

You mean a Paradox?

BARRRRRRFFF!
*rimshot*

604 tfc3rid  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:58am

re: #600 opnion

IL. Senate Appointee, Roland Burris will fly from Chicago's Midway Airport today to D.C. The plan is to show up at the Senate tomorrow to be seated.
What do Reid & the Senate Democrats do, seat Franken & deny Burris?

Are the assholes in DC going to seat Frankenstein?

605 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:03am

re: #594 bloodnok

Those unicorns are going to require a lot of stable boys, doncha know...

I thought unicorn poop was magic, and could fuel our power plants instead of coal, while eliminating carbon emissions, soot, and all other pollution.
In fact, what comes out of the stack has a clean, pine-scented odor that actually deodorizes while it cleans the atmosphere.
/

606 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:08am

re: #556 tfc3rid

Obama flew into DC... He was in a 757, not AF One but the plane on the exterior looked a lot like AF One.

I'm sure most people know this already, but...

Air Force One is a plane designation and not a name. Whatever plane the President is on is Air Force One. Or Marine One for the Helicopter.

There was even a Navy One that was retired after one flight with President Bush aboard. Any Navy plane a president is aboard in the future will become Navy One.

The Air Force has a fleet of planes painted like the one we are talking about.

607 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:10am

I heard a Livni TV interview this morning in which she said that Israel will no longer pursue its unsuccessful policy of refraining from retaliation against terror attacks from Gaza.
I also heard Shimon Peres of all people answer the question of proportionality by asking the reporter whether that would mean, in the case of Hamas who indiscriminately targets civilians, that Israel should also indiscriminately target civilians.

Too bad it has taken so damn long to finally figure this stuff out./

Even so, it made me feel good to hear simple logic being used to debunk the double standard.

608 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:16am

re: #528 yochanan
GREAT NEWS yochanan! Geez, I didn't even know that there was a problem! But I'm glad it's getting better!

609 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:24am

re: #579 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Are you jockeying to get strapped?

I'll be brief: Yes.

Having server issues here, lots of folks returning to work and clogging the system, so I may not get to post for awhile.

I give you an A+ Cup for trying to get this going.

610 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:46am

re: #586 Dustyvet

First three weeks of Desert Shield/Desert Storm we where housed in a Motel in San Antonio, with room service.

San Antonio? Was the action intense there?

611 ayatollah ghilmeini  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:04:02am

Day 9

The Russia-made AT-14 Kornet guided missile is a real widow maker. It is a modern, 1990's era advanced antitank round that can defeat almost any tank, the operator aims the missile at the target by keeping it in sight, the missile gets to the target in seconds and on impact, shoots a jet of white hot metal through the target. Think of the Kornet as a guidable EFP that, if it hits your vehicle, is very likely to kill or injure everyone inside. The Israelis were not ready for these missiles in 2006, they are much more ready now but while I am very sure these were smuggled in to Gaza, so far Hamas has not found a way to effectively use them or Israel training and planning since 2006 have effectively neutralized them. I point this out because this is part of what Israel is fighting in Gaza. Knowing these suckers are out there, should help us all appreciate

As noted yesterday, given the scale of the operation, Israeli casualties so far have been remarkably light.

For fools who think Gaza City is going to be some kind of new Stalingrad, they should know that the Germans were never able to completely cut off Stalingrad's supplies nor were they ever able to stop Russian artillery support. By contrast, Gaza City is completely cut off and the IDF is completely ready and trained up for urban warfare. Nor is there an army of 200,000 troops with 400 planes in position and moving to save Hamas, only diplomacy can rescue Hamas from utter destruction.

Israel's leaders are hoping Hamas will sue for peace and spare a lot of suffering but maniacs with black masks can't wait to be martyred, so more innocents will have to die first.

Meanwhile post Hamas plans for Gaza are already in the works but the diplomatic pressure on Israel will grow day by day. Time is absolutely of the essence. The window to inflict a complete defeat on Hamas cannot be allowed to close before the job is done.

Victory is in sight. Israel must not, dare not, cannot waiver. Victory in Gaza will buy a long term peace without rockets crashing over the border daily. But victory must be seized, taken at the cost of an all out effort and, sadly, the blood of heroes.

The ominous quiet to the north is still the great question, will Iran take Hezbollah into the fight or not? They look like they are going to squeeze the trigger, but they somehow always stop first.

Gilad Shalit, the entire Army of the Jewish people is fighting to bring you home. You are coming home no matter what. You are in our prayers.

612 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:04:39am

re: #584 realwest

Well you may be right - IF Blago is indicted, but Fitz has been running this "investigation" for over two years now.
And what you suggested is no reason to not seat Burris now - not legally, anyway.

What I want to know is why are the dems so vehemently against seating Burris?

I know it's not because they're afraid of or opposed to corruption. They'll defend any dem who gets caught (William Jefferson et. al.).

There has to be some internal problem they have with Blago (internecine political fighting?) Otherwise, they'd just be calling all this hype and a distraction and suggesting that we all just accept the appointment and move on.

Three Wood around?......

613 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:05:01am

re: #607 Spare O'Lake

I heard a Livni TV interview this morning in which she said that Israel will no longer pursue its unsuccessful policy of refraining from retaliation against terror attacks from Gaza.
I also heard Shimon Peres of all people answer the question of proportionality by asking the reporter whether that would mean, in the case of Hamas who indiscriminately targets civilians, that Israel should also indiscriminately target civilians.

Too bad it has taken so damn long to finally figure this stuff out./

Even so, it made me feel good to hear simple logic being used to debunk the double standard.

Unfortunately, it will be lost on the MSM, who flunked logic.

614 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:05:46am

re: #573 TaeJohnDo

Yes, something to lift me up, and separate me from my misery.

Just shake it off.

/*Tosses dollar onstage.*

615 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:06am

re: #587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why the devil are there different regions for DVD players anyway?

DVD region code

The commercial DVD player specification requires that a player to be sold in a given place not play discs encoded for a different region (region 0 discs are not restricted). The purpose of this is to allow motion picture studios to control aspects of a release, including content, release date, and, especially, price, according to the region. Many DVD players are or can be modified to be region-free, allowing playback of all discs.
616 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:11am

re: #611 ayatollah ghilmeini

Time is absolutely of the essence. The window to inflict a complete defeat on Hamas cannot be allowed to close before the job is done.

"What do you need?"

"Time."

617 razorbacker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:25am

re: #600 opnion

IL. Senate Appointee, Roland Burris will fly from Chicago's Midway Airport today to D.C. The plan is to show up at the Senate tomorrow to be seated.
What do Reid & the Senate Democrats do, seat Franken & deny Burris?

One thing about America that has always impressed foreigners is our habit of selecting our rulers from among ourselves, the 'Representative' part of 'Representative Republic'.

So this current crop of congresscritters represents the broad cross section of America?!

I'm going to have to look into finding the keys to the door locks.

618 bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:29am

re: #605 Kosh's Shadow

I thought unicorn poop was magic, and could fuel our power plants instead of coal, while eliminating carbon emissions, soot, and all other pollution.
In fact, what comes out of the stack has a clean, pine-scented odor that actually deodorizes while it cleans the atmosphere.
/

Plus, it can be dried out to make valuable mulch. And just sprinkle it over greens to make a delicious arugula salad.

619 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:37am

re: #543 TaeJohnDo
Uh, not necessarily - doesn't Franken have some big time problems with the IRS?
Hey, maybe IF he wins, he'll get indicted and have to quit!
KEEP THE FAITH!

620 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:07:11am

re: #610 Ford_Prefect

San Antonio? Was the action intense there?

Nah, that's was my USAR units assigned station in a call up...I ended up as an MP at Brooke Army Medical Center.

621 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:07:34am

re: #600 opnion

IL. Senate Appointee, Roland Burris will fly from Chicago's Midway Airport today to D.C. The plan is to show up at the Senate tomorrow to be seated.
What do Reid & the Senate Democrats do, seat Franken & deny Burris?

Or will both the airline and the Senate tell Burris they're overbooked?

622 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:08:06am

re: #609 TaeJohnDo

I give you an A+ Cup for trying to get this going.

That's damning with faint praise.
(I'm strapped for a response, but will find something to pad this with.)

623 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:08:23am

re: #619 realwest

Uh, not necessarily - doesn't Franken have some big time problems with the IRS?

Maybe he stole some more money from the Boys and Girls Club to pay them.

624 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:08:39am

re: #546 tfc3rid
"It was the Seal of the President of the United States..."
Well if so, that's gotta be illegal as hell. And methinks President ELECT Obama may not be quite so happy or in a rush to be POTUS once he's the one behind the desk in the Oval Office, cause the buck definitely stops there.

625 Super-ego  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:08:49am

re: #599 Kosh's Shadow

Well, this time, he voted "Absent"
I really think he doesn't want to let on how anti-Israel he is.
Good thing Israel invaded Gaza while Bush is still in office.

I really hope you're wrong about him being anti-Israel, but from things I have learned about his past make me uncomfortable.

626 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:08:51am

Hi Lizard Nation!

We're still in the grip of the Big Freeze, its into its third week now! I loathe the dry, icy cold from the East ...

However, the advantage is that one has more time to spend reading.

Here is a book which I urge all Lizards to get and read before 01/20:

New Deal or Raw Deal?: How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America (Hardcover)

Its by Burton w. Folsom Jr - and what he has to say about the changes FDR introduced into the political system of your great country makes one's hair stand on end:
* IRS investigations to stifle political opponents;
* patronage to increase votes and the strength of the Democrat Party machines in as many states as possible;
* anti-business taxation, for ideological reasons;
* huge increases in excise taxes, hitting the lower and middle incomes most ...

... the list goes on - and I bet B0 will go down this road, so prepare yourselves!

627 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:09:07am

re: #604 tfc3rid

Are the assholes in DC going to seat Frankenstein?

I heard they are going to appoint him to Obama's speech writing team.

Obama: Live from Wasington! It's Saturday Night!

628 beblebrox  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:09:48am

re: #527 razorbacker

Oh. Well, thanks ever so much but I simply don't have time to learn another secret handshake, buy new robes (unless you'd accept a slightly soiled snuggie, darn that Gearhead) and join another lodge.

Prolly interfere with the weekly Illuminati meetings, anyway.

Ah, but the Children's Auxillery is so fun for the kids to get together with. It's never too early to get them started in the Black Arts. ;)

629 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:10:01am

so what about the Mad Mullahs?....nice take on the situation in Iran

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

630 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:10:05am

re: #554 FrogMarch
I'm doing ok, thanks for asking! Going up to 69 degrees here today; high tomorrow is supposed to be 53!
Just effin' lovely!

631 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:10:34am

re: #587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why the devil are there different regions for DVD players anyway?

Good question, and that's our homework to find out...

Perhaps it's the money factor, as in our region has always had higher prices for DVDs, CDs making it hard for us to get cheaper products from overseas if we can't play the darn things here

632 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:10:40am

Good morning, all!

633 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:10:48am

re: #620 Dustyvet

Nah, that's was my USAR units assigned station in a call up...I ended up as an MP at Brooke Army Medical Center.

Kidding aside, if I have never said it before, thank you for your service. As I look back at my life the one thing that I really regret is that I never entered the service. I was kind of stupid about that stuff when I was young.

634 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:10:58am

re: #626 yma o hyd

Good Morning!

635 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:12:06am
636 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:12:08am

re: #626 yma o hyd

Good morning, {yma}!

637 bosforus  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:12:10am

Guess vacation had to end sooner or later. Back to work for '09!
Morning all!

638 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:12:37am

re: #633 Ford_Prefect

Kidding aside, if I have never said it before, thank you for your service. As I look back at my life the one thing that I really regret is that I never entered the service. I was kind of stupid about that stuff when I was young.

Thanks Ford, your very welcome.

639 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:12:57am

re: #558 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Good morning LT - got it and will reply in a while - chores to do and all that jazz!
But thanks for the good wishes.

640 opnion  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:13:16am

re: #604 tfc3rid

Are the assholes in DC going to seat Frankenstein?

Reid never commented yesterday, but if he does there would be real irony if he denies Burris. Franken is in a disputed election that will probably be settled by the courts.
Burris on the other hand is legally appointed even though Blago is corrupt.

641 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:14:44am

re: #498 realwest

BTW - I've been meaning to ask you this: Since Blago hasn't been indicted or arrested or impeached, then he's still the legal Governor of Illinois, right? SO how the hell can the Democrats refuse to seat Burris? I mean on what grounds - or are the Dems just RACISTS as I've suspected all along!
:)

Blago has not been indicted yet so he has the legal right to do this.

It all boils down to politics. The Dem's do not want a special election cause there is a chance hey would lose. They also do not want an appointed Senator from Blago cause there is also a chance they could lose to a Republican in 2 years cause of resentment.

They have no problem with a Machine politician like Roland Burris. What they want is for Blago to resign, have Lt. Gov Quinn then become Governor and appoint someone like Burris.

But Blago threw a wrench in the works by appointing someone right away. That's why you can now count on the Democratically controlled State legislature to impeach Blago but quick to get him out of the picture as soon as they possibly can, he's gumming up the works for them.

If I was Blago, I'd hire a food taster.

642 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:14:58am

I'm confused. Does Reid have the right to deny a legally appointed Senator?

643 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:16:47am

re: #611 ayatollah ghilmeini

seems Hamas has been abandoned by everyone except Euro/US anti-Semites...it's death or total humiliation now...where is Allahs divine victory?...what will the Islamofascists do now that Allah has cut them lose?

644 Super-ego  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:16:48am

Have you all seen this story from the Chicago Tribune about Canada's trees.


Canada's forests, once huge help on greenhouse gases, now contribute to climate change

By Howard Witt -Tribune correspondent
January 2, 2009

VANCOUVER — As relentlessly bad as the news about global warming seems to be, with ice at the poles melting faster than scientists had predicted and world temperatures rising higher than expected, there was at least a reservoir of hope stored here in Canada's vast forests.

The country's 1.2 million square miles of trees have been dubbed the "lungs of the planet" by ecologists because they account for more than 7 percent of Earth's total forest lands. They could always be depended upon to suck in vast quantities of carbon dioxide, naturally cleansing the world of much of the harmful heat-trapping gas.

But not anymore...

Translation: Earth's lungs have come down with emphysema. Canada's forests are no longer our friends...


Clicky

645 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:16:58am

re: #624 realwest

"It was the Seal of the President of the United States..."
Well if so, that's gotta be illegal as hell. And methinks President ELECT Obama may not be quite so happy or in a rush to be POTUS once he's the one behind the desk in the Oval Office, cause the buck definitely stops there.

He was flying on the Presidential wing into Andrews, so I don't believe it was anything untoward.

646 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:03am

re: #642 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I'm confused. Does Reid have the right to deny a legally appointed Senator?

I'm not aware of any such.
He's not called dingy for nothing.

647 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:06am

Good morning everybody.
Should at least be fun interesting to watch...

...even some Pelosi allies predict the coming months could be an adjustment for a speaker who has relished being in command.

“She has been queen of her castle for quite a while now and the face of the Democratic Party, and I think she is going to want to continue to be at least the co-face as much as possible,” said one longtime senior Congressional official who did not want to be identified talking about the speaker’s outlook. ...


Speaker Makes Room for New No. 1 Democrat

648 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:06am

Here is one article - one! just one! - in today's UK papers which I'm sure the Lizards will enjoy reading.

I give you ...
Melanie Phillips: Yes, the war in Gaza is terrible. But the alternative was worse - for all of us

649 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:19am

Roland the Seatless Illinois Senator?

650 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:22am

I'm not so sure Burris is legally appointed. If he gave payment in anyway to Blago in return for his appointment, then I question its validity. And considering Blago is under indictment for just that sin, it is not unreasonable to suspect payment of some kind or other.

651 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:30am

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.
— Philip K. Dick


Heh, then all the good citizens of the USA will have a reality challenge come Jan.19th. when Obama reigns at his coronation.

Philip Dick
[Link: www.kirjasto.sci.fi...]

652 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:30am

This is worth infinite updings
Israel is worth rescuing, proof
HT Muqata

653 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:50am

re: #641 3 wood

But Blago threw a wrench in the works by appointing someone "of color" right away.

THAT was the real kicker. Gotta give Blago a certain amount of credit for Machiavellian thinking.

654 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:01am
655 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:04am

re: #635 Iron Fist

Yeah, the Republicans seem to never miss an oppertunity to give their base reasons to wish there were a third Party. When they took power, instead of trying to consolidate a permanent Majority, they put too much effort in trying to be "bipartisan". Which we all know means giving the Democrats whatever their cold little hearts want while getting nothing in return. Except maybe some pork to buy votes with.

maybe the GoP should give conservatism a try....

656 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:17am

re: #641 3 wood

Good Morning 3 Wood!

Did you catch my post at #612?

657 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:17am

re: #632 SteveC

Good morning, all!

Sez you.

658 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:20am

re: #590 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You're right about the zoning, and I have toyed with the idea of getting a multi-zone player. There are some 40's/50's vintage British war movies for which it'd come in useful.

I just found this on some DVD site

Ensure you buy a Multizone (RCE-free) DVD player- region coding really sucks and should be banned! Region coding is a distribution protection mechanism whereby DVDs encoded for one region are only playable on players which are from that region (unless the DVD is region 0 - all regions). Don't blame the player manufacturers for region coding though - this is mainly the fault of the movie studios (the MPAA - Motion Picture Association of America) so they can stagger movie releases throughout the world. The movie studios are concerned about piracy, but when DVDs are fairly cheap and some countries have released only a handful of DVDs or the DVD only applies to that country (eg Japanese Animation films, BBC videos etc) why make life much harder for the poor consumer? For further information, have a look here

Interesting...we can blame the Americans for this :-)

659 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:35am

re: #634 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Good Morning!

Hi, pBMb!

How are things - are the moonbats behaving?

660 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:38am

Don't mention the war...

661 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:47am

re: #641 3 wood

If I was Blago, I'd hire a food taster.

Probably good advice there...

662 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:48am

re: #576 Dustyvet
WOW! A foxhole AND a box of C's? Well, ok, long as they be Ham and Lima Beans!

663 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:50am

re: #642 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Reid has rights to seat or unseat Senators based on Senate policy. However, Blago has the right under Illinois law to name a replacement. No matter how corrupt or criminal Blago is, he's currently not convicted of a crime, and Burris appears to be a reasonable pick (by Illinois standards). Reid has no standing to keep him from being seated.

By that logic, Reid shouldn't be seating Franken because he stole the election. But we all know that Reid will.

664 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:56am

re: #600 opnion

IL. Senate Appointee, Roland Burris will fly from Chicago's Midway Airport today to D.C. The plan is to show up at the Senate tomorrow to be seated.
What do Reid & the Senate Democrats do, seat Franken & deny Burris?

Yes. They will seat the guy who many believe stole an election, and deny the guy who was legally appointed.

bidness as usual.

665 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:19:11am

re: #647 J.D.

“She has been queen of her castle for quite a while now

Now why am I thinking of Seinfeld.

666 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:19:13am

re: #645 lawhawk

He was flying on the Presidential wing into Andrews, so I don't believe it was anything untoward.

In the post 9/11 world, perfectly reasonable. I was surprised he appeared to be flying back from Hawaii on a commercial jet?

667 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:04am

re: #636 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, {yma}!

Hiya, {scotti}!

Did you have a good time during the holidays?

668 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:32am

re: #643 albusteve

seems Hamas has been abandoned by everyone except Euro/US anti-Semites...it's death or total humiliation now...where is Allahs divine victory?...what will the Islamofascists do now that Allah has cut them lose?

I think Baal - I mean Allah - is sitting this one out.

And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

669 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:32am

re: #587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
"Why the devil are there different regions for DVD players anyway?"
Money.

670 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:34am

re: #662 realwest

WOW! A foxhole AND a box of C's? Well, ok, long as they be Ham and Lima Beans!

Adriana Lima beans?

671 razorbacker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:47am

Well boys and girls, I'll see y'all later.

I'm feeling antsy, so I've got to go do something.

Even if it's wrong.

672 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:21:40am

re: #659 yma o hyd

are the moonbats behaving?

You really do like wasting your breath, don't you!

673 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:22:12am
674 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:22:17am

re: #668 SteveC

I think Baal - I mean Allah - is sitting this one out.

And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

heh...seems to be the case here...Allahs cred is taking a hit for sure

675 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:22:34am

re: #658 aussiemagpie

Probably so

676 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:22:44am

re: #601 Dustyvet
NO, I mean a two-fer! I get charged TWICE. LOL!

677 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:22:51am

Did I read somewhere that the Hamas terrorists are hiding out in hospitals, pretending to be docs and nurses?

How "Joker" of them.

678 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:10am

re: #650 Silhouette

I'm not so sure Burris is legally appointed. If he gave payment in anyway to Blago in return for his appointment, then I question its validity. And considering Blago is under indictment for just that sin, it is not unreasonable to suspect payment of some kind or other.

How do we know he's an appointee? Maybe he's just the highest bidder!

679 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:19am

re: #671 razorbacker

I've got to go do something.

Even if it's wrong.


Sounds like...me.

680 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:22am

re: #667 yma o hyd

Hiya, {scotti}!

Did you have a good time during the holidays?

Very much so...did you?

681 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:29am
682 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:29am

re: #673 Iron Fist

Everybody said "Take the Scholorship".

[must... resist...]

683 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:46am

re: #670 Occasional Reader

Adriana Lima beans?

A Lima Bean under your pillow...:)

684 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:47am

re: #677 FrogMarch

I read such reports, too.

685 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:24:06am

re: #677 FrogMarch

Did I read somewhere that the Hamas terrorists are hiding out in hospitals, pretending to be docs and nurses?

How "Joker" of them.

Well that's only because the Ambulances are full of weapons.

686 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:24:17am

re: #643 albusteve

seems Hamas has been abandoned by everyone except Euro/US anti-Semites...it's death or total humiliation now...where is Allahs divine victory?...what will the Islamofascists do now that Allah has cut them lose?

May all the Hamassholes get to meet Allah in person and ask.

687 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:24:24am

re: #650 Silhouette

I'm not so sure Burris is legally appointed. If he gave payment in anyway to Blago in return for his appointment, then I question its validity. And considering Blago is under indictment for just that sin, it is not unreasonable to suspect payment of some kind or other.

Burris is legally appointed, by a sitting govanor who is innocent until proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Burris didn't pay one red cent for this seat. They (Blago and Burris) are playing the race card to reach their own individually different objectives. IOW's, another day in the lives of Democrats.

688 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:24:31am

re: #633 Ford_Prefect

As I look back at my life the one thing that I really regret is that I never entered the service. I was kind of stupid about that stuff when I was young.

I have an excuse; I was a liberal.

689 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:24:45am

re: #596 realwest

"Doctors visit today? Best wishes for that and I hope the visit goes well" thank you kindly {aussie} the bad news is I go today; the worse news is I don't hear any results until tomorrow. It's what doctors here like to call a two-fer!

*Fingers crossed* and extra *smooch* for you :-)

690 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:25:09am

If I were Lima's mayor, I'd sue to get my city's name removed from those horrific beans.

691 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:25:14am

Just to 'balance' the fine comment by Melanie Phillips, here is something which should make everyone see red from anger, but look at the comments to this: It breaks my heart to see Israel's stupidity

I'm sure some of you know where the author is coming from:
Rabbi Michael Lerner is editor of Tikkun magazine. (rabbilerner@tikkun.org)

692 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:25:31am

re: #685 Nevergiveup

Well that's only because the Ambulances are full of weapons.

Guy on a gurney felt something poking him in the back, it was an AK-47.

693 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:05am

re: #672 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You really do like wasting your breath, don't you!

Helps to increase one's lung capacity!

:-)

694 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:23am

re: #612 eschew_obfuscation The reason the Dem's don't want to seat Burris is because he's Black! NO, really, the Dem Black quota for Congress has already been met!
RACISTS!
/hey, it worked for Obama/

695 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:55am

PJmedia is en frego this morning....Harry the Senator

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

696 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:59am

re: #648 yma o hyd

Here is one article - one! just one! - in today's UK papers which I'm sure the Lizards will enjoy reading.

I give you ...
Melanie Phillips: Yes, the war in Gaza is terrible. But the alternative was worse - for all of us

From the link:

This is a war that Israel spent more than seven years trying to avoid, while no fewer than 6,000 rockets and other missiles rained down from Gaza upon its southern towns. No other country in the world would have sat on its hands while its traumatised children were raised in bomb shelters.

Damn straight.

697 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:27:00am

re: #687 AmeriDan

Burris is legally appointed, by a sitting governor who is innocent until proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Burris didn't pay one red cent for this seat. They (Blago and Burris) are playing the race card to reach their own individually different objectives. IOW's, another day in the lives of Democrats.

Burris, an empty Machine suit, probably could not resist the chance to place the title "Senator" on his tombstone, in addition to the others he has collected over the years.

698 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:27:23am

re: #677 FrogMarch

Did I read somewhere that the Hamas terrorists are hiding out in hospitals, pretending to be docs and nurses?

How "Joker" of them.

Just test them at their ability to do a simple aseptic scrub up...if they fail....kaboom them.

699 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:27:44am

this just in: Socky Sock puppet Glenn Greenwald is a liar.

and a pro-terror shill.


(via glenn R.)

700 tfc3rid  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:27:57am

re: #624 realwest

This is the picture....

Obama POTUS

701 opnion  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:10am

re: #664 reine.de.tout

Yes. They will seat the guy who many believe stole an election, and deny the guy who was legally appointed.

bidness as usual.


I think that most likely, Burris will be seated with no committee assignments. The IL House fast tracks Blago's impeachment, the Senate does a quick vote to remove.
Lt. Governor Pat Quinn could then make an appointment. Problem solved

702 bosforus  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:10am

re: #671 razorbacker

Well boys and girls, I'll see y'all later.

I'm feeling antsy, so I've got to go do something.

Even if it's wrong.

Are you an elected official or something?

703 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:25am

re: #632 SteveC
Morning back atcha! How are ya doing today?

704 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:56am

re: #573 TaeJohnDo

Yes, something to lift me up, and separate me from my misery.

Here - I'll give you my wings:

Peter Marshall: What are "Do It", "I Can Help" and "Can't Get Enough"?
George Gobel: I don't know but it's coming from the next apartment.

Peter Marshall: In Hawaiian, does it take more than three words to say "I love you"?
Vincent Price: No, you can say it with a pineapple and a twenty.

Peter Marshall: What are "dual purpose" cattle good for that other cattle aren't?
Paul Lynde: They give milk and cookies... but I don't recommend the cookies.

Peter Marshall: Paul, why do Hell's Angels wear leather?
Paul Lynde: Because chiffon wrinkles too easily.

Peter Marshall: True or false...a pea can last as long as 5,000 years.
George Gobel: Boy, it sure seems that way sometimes.

Peter Marshall: When you pat a dog on its head he will usually wag his tail. What will a goose do?
Paul Lynde: Make him bark.

Peter Marshall: According to Ann Landers, is there anything wrong with getting into the habit of kissing a lot of people?
Charley Weaver: It got me out of the army!

Peter Marshall: It is the most abused and neglected part of your body - what is it?
Paul Lynde: Mine may be abused but it certainly isn't neglected!

Peter Marshall: Back in the old days, when Great Grandpa put horseradish on his head, what was he trying to do?
George Gobel: Get it in his mouth.

Peter Marshall: Jackie Gleason recently revealed that he firmly believes in them and has actually seen them on at least two occasions. What are they?
Charley Weaver: His feet.

Peter Marshall: Do female frogs croak?
Paul Lynde: If you hold their little heads under water.

Peter Marshall: Your baby has a certain object, which he loves to cling to. Should you try to break him of his habit?
Joan Rivers: Yes. It's daddy's turn now.

:D

705 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:29:23am

re: #685 Nevergiveup

Well that's only because the Ambulances are full of weapons.

Indeed.

706 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:29:31am

re: #691 yma o hyd

Michael Lerner needs to be punished. He needs to learn that actions have consequences. The Israelis should take him and bring him to Israel and put him on trial. Thousands of dhimmis attack Israel because they fear the Islamists and they do not fear the Israelis.

707 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:29:54am

Have a look at the pictures of what looks to be the same child being carried by different 'fathers' - israellycool has them on his blog, posted at 5.05 pm israeli time.

708 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:07am

re: #699 FrogMarch

this just in: Socky Sock puppet Glenn Greenwald is a liar.

and a pro-terror shill.

(via glenn R.)

Socky McSockpuppet and Sully are both pro-terror shills. They're siding with terrorists over a sovereign nation's right to defend itself from terrorists and their incessant terror attacks. Ace and Goldfarb ripped them new ones yesterday. Volokh has been using Socky as a pinata for some time now.

709 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:16am

re: #641 3 wood
Thanks for the explanation!
Too bad Burris is Blago's food tester!

710 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:31am

up on drudge - Schmuck Schumer (A-hole) desperate to seat Stewart Smally.

711 razorbacker  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:38am

*sticks head through doorway*

I almost forgot. Saw this at TheoSparks joint.

"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance."

Cicero - 55 BC

*walks away again, laughing maniacally*

712 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:49am

re: #680 scottishbuzzsaw

Very much so...did you?

Too cold, far too cold, and friends in hospital - not a good time at all.

713 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:31:26am

re: #697 Honorary Yooper

Burris, an empty Machine suit, probably could not resist the chance to place the title "Senator" on his tombstone, in addition to the others he has collected over the years.

Exactly, and Blago needs an African American to piggy back on while he tries to shuck and jive through the legal system.

714 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:31:35am

re: #645 lawhawk
Flying on the Presidential Wing? WTH is that? Ya mean they wouldn't let him in the bus?!
;')

715 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:32:00am

re: #708 lawhawk

Socky McSockpuppet and Sully are both pro-terror shills. They're siding with terrorists over a sovereign nation's right to defend itself from terrorists and their incessant terror attacks. Ace and Goldfarb ripped them new ones yesterday. Volokh has been using Socky as a pinata for some time now.

Excitable Andy can kiss my ass. He disgusts me.

716 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:32:36am

re: #705 FrogMarch

Indeed.


Well that's only because the Ambulances are full of weapons.

UN donated Ambulances. UN donated fuel to transport them.

717 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:17am

Bob Hope nails Democrats down over 60 yrs ago.


718 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:18am

re: #712 yma o hyd

Too cold, far too cold, and friends in hospital - not a good time at all.

Very sorry to hear that.

719 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:23am

Back... Hi Scottish, long time, no see, cutie!

720 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:40am

re: #716 notutopia

Well that's only because the Ambulances are full of weapons.

UN donated Ambulances. UN donated fuel to transport them.

And some people think the UN doesn't do much.

721 ayatollah ghilmeini  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:12am

re: #654 Iron Fist

Sorry Fist, they have less than a week, at most.

The left, the UN and the "international community" will be escalating calls for cease-fire and the all the usual bs with a shrill urgency like you have never seen before.

They cannot let their beloved Hamas go down.

The Muslim world is in a fever pitch. Demonstrations calling for the Islamic countries to get into the war will start in earnest on Friday.

722 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:27am

re: #720 J.D.

And some people think the UN doesn't do much.

They do too much, and usually for the wrong team.

723 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:29am

re: #570 Super-ego

I sincerely hope Obama succeeds as an American president standing up for America.

I hope he fails miserably since his idea of standing up for America is socialism. If he succeeds in making socialism look good, it will destroy America in the long run.

724 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:36am
725 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:53am

re: #720 J.D.

And some people think the UN doesn't do much.

They take up parking spaces in NYC?

726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:35:00am

I'm feeling very stupid right now. What is the name of the lizard who posts using "pirate speak"? As soon as I press "post" I'll probably think of it. Been trying to remember. Was always on morning threads. Haven't seen him for a while.

727 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:35:03am

re: #705 FrogMarch

Indeed.

Can anyone identify the apparent rocket launcher that appears at around 0:15 (seconds) in that clip?

728 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:35:11am
729 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:35:29am

Goodnight {everyone} and have a great yesterday!

730 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:35:40am

re: #725 Nevergiveup

They take up parking spaces in NYC?

Yeah. But, at least not the legal ones.

731 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:00am

re: #710 FrogMarch

up on drudge - Schmuck Schumer (A-hole) desperate to seat Stewart Smally.

it's getting to be like ancient Rome...or the Mob...hahaha!...did your vote count ya think?...my cynicism is maxing out

732 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:16am

re: #720 J.D.

And some people think the UN doesn't do much.

Between the UN and Australia sending millions, this
Hamas campaign against the Israelis is being paid for as we watch the coverage. Let's not forget the Iranian rockets...free of charge.

733 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:23am

re: #706 lifeofthemind

Michael Lerner needs to be punished. He needs to learn that actions have consequences. The Israelis should take him and bring him to Israel and put him on trial. Thousands of dhimmis attack Israel because they fear the Islamists and they do not fear the Israelis.

I confess that while I can sort of udnerstand that dhimmis are fearful of Islamists, I cannot understand that Jews, at this time, can be found at the side of an enemy of Israel.
And this is someone who does not live in israel and ties to appease the enemy for fear of his life, as some Jews did under the Nazis - tis someone who lives far away, out of any danger.
I really do not understand this at all.

734 parkylarky  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:24am

I was pretty surprised to see this article in Haaretz:

If Mexico shelled Texas, like Hamas shells Israel


...
As a bonus, pro-Palestinian demonstrators in San Francisco [where else?], referencing the the Warsaw Ghetto analogy, recently beat up a small number of pro-Israel demonstrators, reportedly shouting "Slaughter the Jew" at them in Arabic.

Way to bring peace.

735 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:31am

re: #720 J.D.

And some people think the UN doesn't do much.

Heh. Freedom loving people around the world are victims to the UN's success. Not to mention the people they are trying to "help".

736 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:33am

re: #719 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Back... Hi Scottish, long time, no see, cutie!

Good morning, Vet! Glad to see you survived the treadmill! How've you been?

737 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:34am

re: #730 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah. But, at least not the legal ones.

Oh they park in the legal ones also.

738 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:51am

re: #717 Dustyvet
ROTFLMAO! GREAT ONE, Dusty!

739 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:37:03am

re: #724 FrogMarch

Cheat to win democrats in MN.

I actually know a Minnesotan (is that right?) who thinks they got a deal when they got Tubby Smith as their new basketball coach. You have to wonder...

740 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:37:31am

re: #715 FrogMarch

Excitable Andy can kiss my ass. He disgusts me.

What the hell happened to him (we ask again and again)? This was a guy who came just shy of calling for using nukes in Afghanistan back in 2001/2002. And now he's weeping over the poor Hamasniks.

741 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:37:52am

Oh, Dear God.........

Port Angeles teen mother arrested in death of newborn
Police say a 16-year-old Port Angeles girl killed her newborn baby and then threw the infant in the trash.

'scuse me. I think I'm gonna be ill.

742 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:37:54am

re: #613 Kosh's Shadow

Unfortunately, it will be lost on the MSM, who flunked logic.

Is it just my own bias or is Israel's position both legal and moral, while the Islamofascist position is completely illegal and immoral?
Yet Israel continues to be almost universally vilified by the oil-whoring, antisemitic, western nations and their media mouthpieces.

Perhaps just for once, Israel now needs to stop struggling to cast itself in such a vastly morally superior light, and instead give the Arabs a great big bellyfull of their own subhuman Islamofascist medicine.

I wonder what would happen if Israel decided to win now at all costs and to wage a total, all-out, vicious, take-no-prisoners, campaign to the death against every single last member of the various terrorist organizations in Gaza and the West Bank. My guess - substantial victory and peace for many years to come.

743 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:37:57am

re: #726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian That was Loflyer - he was banned.

744 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:37:59am

re: #721 ayatollah ghilmeini

Sorry Fist, they have less than a week, at most.

The left, the UN and the "international community" will be escalating calls for cease-fire and the all the usual bs with a shrill urgency like you have never seen before.

They cannot let their beloved Hamas go down.

The Muslim world is in a fever pitch. Demonstrations calling for the Islamic countries to get into the war will start in earnest on Friday.

the only door in is the northern gate...good luck with that

745 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:43am
746 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:45am

re: #741 jcm

Oh, Dear God.........

www.king5.com...]>

'scuse me. I think I'm gonna be ill.

Link fixed....

747 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:54am

re: #743 realwest

That was Loflyer - he was banned.

What did he do? Wrong?

748 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:59am
749 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:39:06am

re: #741 jcm

Oh, Dear God.........

750 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:39:38am

Oops...
re: #743 {realwest}

That was Loflyer - he was banned.

What did he do? Wrong?

751 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:39:46am

re: #741 jcm
Ah geez, I find that so hard to believe (not that you're gonna be ill, cause I am too but the story.).
Shit.

752 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:39:52am
753 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:17am

Here's a photo of the ambulances/mobile clinics Israel attacked. No way to tell what the intended target was, but there is a vehicle at the bottom of that pit.

754 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:27am

re: #747 J.D.
Hey {J.D.} - I don't know - wasn't here for it, just heard about it the next day.

755 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:58am

re: #736 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, Vet! Glad to see you survived the treadmill! How've you been?

Passing well... having a real hard time getting out of holiday mode with the kids still home from school. Witness the fact that it is 9:40 here right now, I'm still in my PJ Media uniform, just got off the treadmill and the coffee is just now being made.

756 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:11am

Good morning!

757 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:19am

Well y'all I gotta run now - things to do, people to see, etc.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

758 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:34am

The Muqata has some photos of the damage by rockets and missiles, from today's Hamas attacks.
He also says that
'5:04 PM Israel Channel 10 reports that IDF urban combat troops have entered Gaza City.
Additional reports say that IDF has captured dozens of Hamas terrorists over the past 48 hours.'

759 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:49am

Another reason to to be ill.....

Franken-Coleman recount: Al whips Norm in absentee ballot count, and end is near ... it sure seemsThat's because Al Franken — to use a sports term, sorry — pummeled Coleman today, when the previously rejected absentee ballots were counted, 481-305, enough to lift his overall lead to 225 votes.

He's no Jimmy Stewart, but with today's count, "Mr. Franken Goes to Washington" may be the former comedy writer's next sketch.

The 225-vote margin is what the State Canvassing Board will see come Monday. Barring an unforeseen interception by another Minnesota Supreme Court ruling, it appears as if Franken will have the most votes when the board meets.

WA 2000 Gorton - Cantwell.
WA 2004 Rossi - Gregoire.
MN 2008 Coleman - Franken.

The (D)s and fellow travelers are perfecting the election rip-off.

760 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:59am

re: #757 realwest

Well y'all I gotta run now - things to do, people to see, etc.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Catch ya later, Real... let us know how it goes. We'll all be thinking of ya.

761 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:42:11am

re: #561 Occasional Reader

PEDANT ALERT!

762 Karridine  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:42:14am

re: #741 jcm

Serious moonbat country, southwestern Washington... that teen mother 'felt her baby's pain, and HAD to deal compassionately with it...", ergo the quick death...

/yes, channeling moonbat reasoning...

763 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:42:14am

Well, shitburgers. I have maxed out memory (2GB) on my computer, which I just bought 2 years ago. If I want more memory I have to buy a new computer.

764 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:42:55am

re: #723 ciaospirit

Hey ciaospirit-how is your friend's son, you know the airman who was shot last year, is he OK?

765 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:43:47am

re: #748 Iron Fist

The clock is certainly ticking. It has been since Obama won the election. Obama would have to let a victory stand, but a quagmire could be used to put pressure on Israel to make concessions. one gets the impression that the Democrats would prefer the quagmire.

aside from some phoney perception put out for the droolers what difference can Oboy make?...I think he's overestimated....he can't just cut funding for IDF ammo overnight can he?...ignore the punk

766 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:43:59am

re: #759 jcm

Make me king for a week, I'll fix it.

Make me king for two weeks and I'll fix the tax code, too, no extra charge.

767 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:44:06am
768 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:44:33am

re: #753 lawhawk

Here's a photo of the ambulances/mobile clinics Israel attacked. No way to tell what the intended target was, but there is a vehicle at the bottom of that pit.

That's a hell of a crater. Too big for a missile, about right for GBU-31, 2000lbs bomb.... IDF hasn't used bombs that big against vehicles, only structures. Missiles do a vehicle just fine thank you.

Or secondary explosions.

769 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:44:55am

re: #691 yma o hyd

He's a fuck head leftist who isn't really a Rabbi. An antisemite who was accidentally born a Jew.

770 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:06am
771 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:14am

re: #746 jcm

Link fixed....

(man opening the door for a moment) "No comment, already been given out"

My thoughts at that moment? Stinky would used a JDAM if I put them into a comment here.

772 AmeriDan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:44am

re: #763 Alouette

Well, shitburgers. I have maxed out memory (2GB) on my computer, which I just bought 2 years ago. If I want more memory I have to buy a new computer.

Keep your poRn on disk.

/works for me :)

773 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:44am

re: #763 Alouette

Well, shitburgers. I have maxed out memory (2GB) on my computer, which I just bought 2 years ago. If I want more memory I have to buy a new computer.

I assume you mean the RAM? Not the hard drive?

774 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:55am

re: #707 yma o hyd

So, you're suggesting the Palestinians might be LYING? Or MANIPULATING IMAGES?

/get outa here

775 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:46:22am

re: #770 ploome hineni

damn

in some way I'm not happy with 'captured'...let me think about this

776 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:46:33am

re: #767 ploome hineni

isn't it ODD that the top of the ambulance seems to have blown away off the truck so cleanly?

the top of the ambulance was not crushed INTO the truck, just sheared off

no sign of a fire.no black smoke residue,nothing

.....................we need a Zombie assessment

IMHO, there's no way the top of that box truck was taken off by a bomb blast of any sort. It's too clean, and the truck is in damn near mint condition. It's yet another case of fauxtography.

777 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:46:36am
The Obama national security team is highly competent. Given the situations in South Asia and the Middle East, forceful creativity is needed. There may be no better way to achieve that than by enlisting, in a special role, Richard Holbrooke, the man who brokered the Dayton Peace Accords on Bosnia. Some Obama insiders say they resent his outsized ego; more important are his intellect and skill.


Well, iirc Richard Holbrooke was, [Ahem] until recently, on the Board of Directors of AIG...
Obama’s Pledges Freighted With Promise, Peril: Albert R. Hunt

779 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:47:03am

re: #473 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' Frog! How've you been?

Hi Scottishbuzzsaw! Sorry I missed this. It's crowded in here this AM.

I'm good. How have you been?

780 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:47:55am

re: #776 Honorary Yooper

It's yet another case of fauxtography.

I'd say the photo is real, but staged.

781 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:29am
782 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:31am

re: #763 Alouette

Well, shitburgers. I have maxed out memory (2GB) on my computer, which I just bought 2 years ago. If I want more memory I have to buy a new computer.

How do you know that you "maxed" out your memory?

783 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:38am

re: #775 albusteve

They are getting a lot of info out of them...they are singing..

784 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:38am

re: #755 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Passing well... having a real hard time getting out of holiday mode with the kids still home from school. Witness the fact that it is 9:40 here right now, I'm still in my PJ Media uniform, just got off the treadmill and the coffee is just now being made.

LOL! I'm still in uniform, too, but I suppose it's time to toddle off and face all the undone after 17 days of vacation...*sigh*...have a great day, and hope to be able to drop by again soon. Take care.

785 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:50am

re: #756 WriterMom

Good morning!

Shalom.

786 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:49:01am

re: #778 yma o hyd

48-hour-rule ...:
ebanese Information Minister Tarek Mitari said Monday that his country will not be dragged into another war with Israel over the Gaza conflict, and that as far as he knew, Hizbullah held the same position.

48 hour rule or not, I find it HIGHLY interesting that Iran/Hizballah have not sought to capitalize on the IDF's being busy in Gaza.

787 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:49:43am

re: #780 Occasional Reader

I'd say the photo is real, but staged.

The crater is definately real, but the truck appears to have been added later, and dug in to make it appear as if it were there when the crater was made. If that truck was there when a crater that size was made, there'd be nothing left of it.

788 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:07am

re: #783 WriterMom

They are getting a lot of info out of them...they are singing..

a veritable choir I hope!...go IDF

789 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:10am
790 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:20am

re: #780 Occasional Reader

I'd say the photo is real, but staged.

Certainly it was staged. Where the hell is the building that the caption talks about? That "space" is clean, cleared, there is no evidence of any building being there in a long time.

791 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:21am

re: #781 ploome hineni

My YouTube connection is wonky today, but MY EYEEEEEEEESSSSS. Who is the wacky dude with the fro, the funky glasses and the seizure inducing tie? Is that the African "scholar"?

I can't watch it and be calm anyway...

792 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:51am

re: #779 FrogMarch

Hi Scottishbuzzsaw! Sorry I missed this. It's crowded in here this AM.

I'm good. How have you been?

Just fine, FrogMarch...hope you have a great day...thanks for all the great links, as usual! ;>)

793 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:51am

re: #769 WriterMom

He's a fuck head leftist who isn't really a Rabbi. An antisemite who was accidentally born a Jew.

Thanks - that was my diagnosis, not really having read anything by him.

One's got to wonder why people like him are given a platform in what is still regarded as the top UK paper ...

(Ahem, just thought of something - The Times is of course owned by Murdoch ...)

794 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:52am

re: #768 jcm

It looks like there are at least two craters (noted by the lighter/concrete color at bottom of each. The vehicle in the foreground was the likely target. The truck in the right background appears salvagable and could just be towed out of there.

What was going on at the time of the incident? We'll never know.

795 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:51:15am

re: #785 Spare O'Lake

Yo!

796 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:51:17am
797 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:51:26am

re: #787 Honorary Yooper

The crater is definately real, but the truck appears to have been added later, and dug in to make it appear as if it were there when the crater was made. If that truck was there when a crater that size was made, there'd be nothing left of it.

Yep, that's exactly what I mean. I think of "fauxtography" in strictu sensu as referring to a photo which, itself, has been altered (like the infamous smoke-filled Beirut sky).

798 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:51:58am

re: #721 ayatollah ghilmeini

The Muslim world is in a fever pitch. Demonstrations calling for the Islamic countries to get into the war will start in earnest on Friday.

Friday?!?!

I know that's Islamic Prayer Day, but Allah and Mo didn't think this "24 hour news cycle" and "Always Act, Never React" thing out real well.

"Catapult's broken. We can't launch for ten minutes."

"Bullshit! This will be over in five minutes!"

799 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:52:04am

re: #789 ploome hineni

Probably a Mercedes-given the amount of freaking jizyah they get.

800 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:52:20am

re: #774 WriterMom

So, you're suggesting the Palestinians might be LYING? Or MANIPULATING IMAGES?

/get outa here

Teeheehee!
Its not as if they don't have form, like ...

801 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:52:37am

re: #786 Occasional Reader

48 hour rule or not, I find it HIGHLY interesting that Iran/Hizballah have not sought to capitalize on the IDF's being busy in Gaza.

I think whatever they have is a one shot deal...thier sugar daddy is running outa sugar...they do not know what to do...if they strike the IDF will counter ferociously imo...another divine defeat

802 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:53:20am

re: #790 Walter L. Newton

Certainly it was staged. Where the hell is the building that the caption talks about? That "space" is clean, cleared, there is no evidence of any building being there in a long time.

That building was (formerly) an investment property owned by... Flat Fatima! The poor babushka just can't catch a break!

803 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:53:39am

re: #743 realwest

Yeah. Lowflyer. Had a feeling. One of these days when I get stupid and tossed out on my ass...y'all talk nice about me, okay?

804 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:53:43am

re: #528 yochanan

Oh Yoch! Praying for Refuah Shlema...I hope that little bumpkin is at home very soon, poor little guy.

805 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:53:53am

Jobs Says He Is Being Treated for Nutritional Ailment (Update3)

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Can't he afford a good steak or a couple of lamb chops?

806 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:54:18am

More props (graphic photo warning) for the Hamas death machine. They're laying out the corpses of children for all to see.

807 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:54:46am


Media Fauxtography Now In Full Swing

zombie and lawhawk both get linked.

808 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:00am

re: #803 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

y'all talk nice about me, okay?

Thank God that Fat Bastard finally left...

809 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:01am

re: #776 Honorary Yooper
Ha! More proof Pali's can't drive worth a shit!.....IMHO
That's a mobile rocket launcher...thus the open "box top"!
Driven by an 18 year old with his cell phone in his hand!
Seen it a MILLION TIMES ....///
HOPE EVERYONE A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR!
I'll OD on hope and change !

810 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:10am
811 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:11am

re: #802 Occasional Reader

Heh. Yes. For all the "poverty" and "mass starvation" Gazans still appear to be rather well dressed, clean and plump even...fortunately for them, we Jews really suck at genocide.

812 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:15am

re: #806 lawhawk

More props (graphic photo warning) for the Hamas death machine. They're laying out the corpses of children for all to see.

no thanks...I get the point and dont need yet another illustration...

813 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:31am

re: #787 Honorary Yooper

The crater is definately real, but the truck appears to have been added later, and dug in to make it appear as if it were there when the crater was made. If that truck was there when a crater that size was made, there'd be nothing left of it.

Those flimsy sides on the truck would have blow away in the shock wave, at the very least. At that distance from the epicenter the shock wave PSI is measured in thousands of pounds. The side of that truck is 8'x20' rough estimate. 160sg ft x 144 sq in per sq foot. 17,280 sq" or 17,280,000 lbs per on that side panel.

Absolutely no way that truck was there when the explosion went off.

814 yochanan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:39am

re: #691 yma o hyd

Just to 'balance' the fine comment by Melanie Phillips, here is something which should make everyone see red from anger, but look at the comments to this: It breaks my heart to see Israel's stupidity

I'm sure some of you know where the author is coming from:
Rabbi Michael Lerner is editor of Tikkun magazine. (rabbilerner@tikkun.org)

IF THIS IDIOTARIAN doesn't like what Israel is doing they must be doing it right.

815 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:51am

re: #810 ploome hineni

You better say a double round of HAIL GORES today.

816 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:14am
817 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:17am

re: #789 ploome hineni

Up side down car ...the frosting is showing
on the left front bumper!

818 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:24am
819 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:26am

Wounded by a tank shell (again, graphic photo warning)? CSI: Gaza is in overdrive. Reporting uncritically Hamas propaganda. How do we know it was a tank shell and not say, Hamas firing wildly to attack Israel?

820 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:42am

re: #808 Occasional Reader

Thank God that Fat Bastard finally left...

Yeah...what a major pain...

821 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:46am

re: #815 WriterMom

You better say a double round of HAIL GORES today.

No problem, I say "The hail with Al Gore!" all the time!

822 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:53am

re: #781 ploome hineni

show yma this video of the mtrfkr, buttboy

Michael Lerner and Colnel West

Thanks - hearted for later perusal.
One look at Lerner's face ... ugh!

823 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:57:23am

re: #818 buzzsawmonkey

Where are the Cunningly Placed Stuffed Toy pix?

What, is this the Folgers taste challenge? We've replaced the stuffed toy with a Hamas look alike and wondering if anyone can tell the difference? /

824 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:57:29am

re: #818 buzzsawmonkey

Not even the Mickey Mouse in Rubble piata can beat images of dead children.

825 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:57:33am
826 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:57:35am

re: #819 lawhawk

Wounded by a tank shell (again, graphic photo warning)? CSI: Gaza is in overdrive. Reporting uncritically Hamas propaganda. How do we know it was a tank shell and not say, Hamas firing wildly to attack Israel?

Let's exacerbate the injuries by holding the kid up for the camera.

827 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:58:09am
828 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:58:30am

re: #819 lawhawk

Paying overtime shifts to the Looking, Gathering 'Round and Inspecting Squads?

829 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:58:46am

LOL. I crack myself up.

830 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:59:06am

re: #808 Occasional Reader

awww.

(sorry, that was the best "sad sack" voice I could do)

831 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:59:10am
832 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:59:21am

re: #820 J.D.

Yeah...what a major pain...

I heard he got the boot last night. Good riddance.

833 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:00:06am

re: #813 jcm

Those flimsy sides on the truck would have blow away in the shock wave, at the very least. At that distance from the epicenter the shock wave PSI is measured in thousands of pounds. The side of that truck is 8'x20' rough estimate. 160sg ft x 144 sq in per sq foot. 17,280 sq" or 17,280,000 lbs per on that side panel.

Absolutely no way that truck was there when the explosion went off.

Not to mention that all that clean white paint on the panel sides and the cab isn't even singed, hell, isn't even dirty. That paint must be some sort of miraculous Billy Mays product!

834 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:00:07am
835 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:00:09am

re: #830 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

awww.

(sorry, that was the best "sad sack" voice I could do)

the sound I was trying to make....

836 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:00am
837 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:00am

re: #827 Iron Fist

Actually, I think that the President can just cut funding just by not asking for it in the next budget. Whether it is doable politically is an open question. Israel is an American ally. While people like us probably are a minority, the average American is also not cool with feeding Israel to the Hamastinian alligators to secure "Peace in our time".

I think it will be constructive to watch how this plays out in the political arena. There are two paths from here, but we can only follow one.

when you come to a fork in the road, take it

838 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:08am

re: #721 ayatollah ghilmeini

Sorry Fist, they have less than a week, at most.
The left, the UN and the "international community" will be escalating calls for cease-fire and the all the usual bs with a shrill urgency like you have never seen before.
They cannot let their beloved Hamas go down.
The Muslim world is in a fever pitch. Demonstrations calling for the Islamic countries to get into the war will start in earnest on Friday.

Unless the USA sells Israel out like they did in Lebanon, noone else can dictate the timetable to Israel. I will be very surprised if Israel is out of Gaza by January 20th unless Hamas folds before then.
But I doubt Hamas will fold by then unless Egypt has really pulled the plug on them.

839 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:16am
840 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:26am

Someone on Twitter has had about enough:

"no more gaza or hamas updates! need a break from the nonstop updates."

Sort of sounds like he backed the wrong horse!

841 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:55am

re: #819 lawhawk

Wounded by a tank shell (again, graphic photo warning)? CSI: Gaza is in overdrive. Reporting uncritically Hamas propaganda. How do we know it was a tank shell and not say, Hamas firing wildly to attack Israel?

And notice that the "... Palestinian baby, that was wounded by an Israeli tank shell and later died ..." isn't being carried gently, it's being held up for the camera to photograph.

Several comments could be made here. [deleted]

842 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:57am

re: #836 buzzsawmonkey

Yes-I spelled it wrong! Pieta.

843 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:57am

re: #830 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

awww.

(sorry, that was the best "sad sack" voice I could do)

Well, it IS your name!

844 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:02:11am

re: #833 Occasional Reader

Not to mention that all that clean white paint on the panel sides and the cab isn't even singed, hell, isn't even dirty. That paint must be some sort of miraculous Billy Mays product!

Bomb blast damage?
OXI-CLEAN!

845 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:02:25am

re: #826 jcm

Let's get some propaganda shots instead of taking the kid to the hospital!

846 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:02:36am

re: #844 jcm

Oh no!

847 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:02:38am

How is the real operation going? You know, the one that isn't described by the Hamas propaganda?

848 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:02:57am
849 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:03:03am
As we count down to the polls opening there's a few items of interest to pass on...

Polls will open on Jan. 5, but we don't have the exact time they'll open yet determined. I know this may be an inconvenience to some, but we have to make sure everything is working before we get started. All the polls are built, we're just running through our final tests to ensure the voting process is smooth. If the polls don't open until the evening of the 5th we'll extend voting until Jan. 13 to give a full 7 days (and change) for voting. We're shooting for an afternoon or morning kickoff for voting.


2008 Weblog Awards Finalists
Many familiar...er...faces.

850 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:03:42am
851 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:03:45am

re: #842 WriterMom

Yes-I spelled it wrong! Pieta.

I thought you were referring to the new Mazda Piata.

852 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:04:10am

re: #803 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah. Lowflyer. Had a feeling. One of these days when I get stupid and tossed out on my ass...y'all talk nice about me, okay?

re: #808 Occasional Reader

Thank God that Fat Bastard finally left...

re: #820 J.D.

Yeah...what a major pain...

re: #832 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I heard he got the boot last night. Good riddance.

And that habit of his of not eating any meat... just creepy, I tell ya! :)

853 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:04:24am

re: #838 Spare O'Lake

Unless the USA sells Israel out like they did in Lebanon, noone else can dictate the timetable to Israel. I will be very surprised if Israel is out of Gaza by January 20th unless Hamas folds before then.
But I doubt Hamas will fold by then unless Egypt has really pulled the plug on them.

Iran put out a contract on Mubarak...I doubt he gives a crap what happens to Hamas anymore than to keep them out of Egypt which would be nothing new...

854 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:04:39am

re: #832 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I heard he got the boot last night. Good riddance.

Oh, crap...either he's still here or someone stole his nic!

855 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:04:49am

re: #844 jcm

Bomb blast damage?
OXI-CLEAN!

ha!...good one

856 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:04:50am

re: #851 Occasional Reader

Sure you did.

{WHACK}

857 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:04:57am

re: #811 WriterMom

Heh. Yes. For all the "poverty" and "mass starvation" Gazans still appear to be rather well dressed, clean and plump even...fortunately for them, we Jews really suck at genocide.

What makes my blood boil is seeing the photos of these alledgedly 'starving' Gazans, while remembering the photos of liberated Buchenwald and Belsen KZs.

It seems beyond the journalists on the FMSM to compare the Gazans with photos of truly starving Africans, if one doesn't want to go down into history and actually look at photos of Jews ...

858 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:05:16am
859 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:05:33am

re: #848 buzzsawmonkey

Charles had a post last night "TAILOR" made for you!

860 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:06:01am
861 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:06:12am

re: #858 ploome hineni

I am right here!

862 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:06:47am

re: #860 buzzsawmonkey

That is the fun of a vague statement.

863 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:06:51am

re: #819 lawhawk

Wounded by a tank shell (again, graphic photo warning)? CSI: Gaza is in overdrive. Reporting uncritically Hamas propaganda. How do we know it was a tank shell and not say, Hamas firing wildly to attack Israel?

As you say - must be true because Hamas told them so!
They wouldn't lie, would they ...

/

864 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:06:54am
865 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:07:18am

re: #844 jcm

Bomb blast damage?
OXI-CLEAN!

If you're bringing Billy Mays into this, then damn you!

866 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:07:28am

re: #838 Spare O'Lake

Unless the USA sells Israel out like they did in Lebanon, noone else can dictate the timetable to Israel. I will be very surprised if Israel is out of Gaza by January 20th unless Hamas folds before then.
But I doubt Hamas will fold by then unless Egypt has really pulled the plug on them.

After that, I fear 0bama will stop defending Israel at the UN, and we might see legally binding resolutions, with penalties.
Whether Livni will stand up or give in is another question.

867 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:07:41am

re: #833 Occasional Reader

Not to mention that all that clean white paint on the panel sides and the cab isn't even singed, hell, isn't even dirty. That paint must be some sort of miraculous Billy Mays product!

Build in the background on the left,3rd or 4th floors.
Looks like intact glass windows.
Anything big enough to make a crater that big, would have blown out facing windows for at a minimum several hundred yards.

The one story building behind the truck.
No structural damage. The top 3-4" above the brown line appears to be a parapet, the roofs are flat, the parapet gives a railing to a flat roof and makes it useable out door space like a deck. Parts of that should have crumbled being so close to an explosion that big.

Whole picture stinks.

868 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:07:42am

re: #764 WriterMom

Hey ciaospirit-how is your friend's son, you know the airman who was shot last year, is he OK?

Yes, he's doing well. Thanks for asking. I've had the chance to thoroughly hug him. He showed me his scars. Ugh. Unfortunately, he'll never be 100% even with youth on his side. He described the recovery process in detail and it sounded just awful. Heard other details as well. There is no doubt that he was targeted. By a complete America hating stranger.

869 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:08:14am

re: #819 lawhawk

Wounded by a tank shell (again, graphic photo warning)? CSI: Gaza is in overdrive. Reporting uncritically Hamas propaganda. How do we know it was a tank shell and not say, Hamas firing wildly to attack Israel?

Note how gently that baby is cradled in the arms of his father ... NOT!

*Spit!*

870 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:08:15am

re: #852 SteveC

And that habit of his of not eating any meat... just creepy, I tell ya! :)

OH! I thought his nic was Fat Bastard Veterinarian!
Well, Duh!

871 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:08:41am

re: #854 J.D.

Oh, crap...either he's still here or someone stole his nic!

Naw... just FBVZ... Fat Bastard Vegge Zombie. No reflection in the mirror.

Ignore it and it will go away.

872 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:00am

re: #259 rightside

Allegedly, the entire world believes we are no longer the strongest country on the planet, yet everyone still knows that we lead, not follow.


If we are not the strongest then who is?

873 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:21am

re: #834 ploome hineni

re: #834 ploome hineni
A bad joke?

874 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:25am

re: #860 buzzsawmonkey

Which was?

#295 Ken Miller thread. One flight up.

875 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:39am

re: #868 ciaospirit

He's 100% alive, which is the best thing possible. And hopefully, the bastard who did this to him will rot in jail for the rest of his life. Glad to hear he's recovering.

876 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:44am

re: #850 ploome hineni

the way they handle the 'wounded' probably cause much of the damage

I love to see 6 guys dragging someone into a hospital

Mindset? ... I suspect so.

Several lizards have commented on the "will of Allah" syndrome.

Someone here had served in the US military, training the Shah's men in preventive maintenance, aircraft pre-flight proceedures, things like that. He said it was incredibly difficult to get the REASON for the proceedures across. The students saw everything as "if Allah wills it" and would take no precautions.

Perhaps that's behind what we're seeing here.

877 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:47am

re: #827 Iron Fist

the average American is also not cool with feeding Israel to the Hamastinian alligators to secure "Peace in our time".

I don't know, Fist. Have you talked to any college kids lately?

878 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:48am
879 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:55am

re: #871 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Naw... just FBVZ... Fat Bastard Vegge Zombie. No reflection in the mirror.

Ignore it and it will go away.

Hey LT, let's set out a White Castle Slider and see if we can capture it...:)

880 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:58am

re: #868 ciaospirit

Yes, he's doing well. Thanks for asking. I've had the chance to thoroughly hug him. He showed me his scars. Ugh. Unfortunately, he'll never be 100% even with youth on his side. He described the recovery process in detail and it sounded just awful. Heard other details as well. There is no doubt that he was targeted. By a complete America hating stranger.

That's terrible, where (geogrphically) did he get shot?

881 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:59am

re: #819 lawhawk

Wounded by a tank shell (again, graphic photo warning)? CSI: Gaza is in overdrive. Reporting uncritically Hamas propaganda. How do we know it was a tank shell and not say, Hamas firing wildly to attack Israel?

Interesting - in that photo, the guy holding the baby is behind two other people, and he is holding the child upright and to the side of the people in front of him, to ensure, I suppose, that the baby gets included in the photo.

That is a most unnatural way of holding a small child, particularly one who is wounded.

882 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:10:39am

re: #881 reine.de.tout

Well, they have a particularly unnatural way of raising their children, too.

883 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:10:41am

re: #866 Kosh's Shadow

After that, I fear 0bama will stop defending Israel at the UN, and we might see legally binding resolutions, with penalties.
Whether Livni will stand up or give in is another question.

if that happens Oboy will take a beating like he's never had....his anti-Semitism will light up like Xmas tree...he will have to justify it and he wont be able to...not everybody voted for that guy

884 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:10:43am
885 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:10:54am

re: #879 Dustyvet

Hey LT, let's set out a White Castle Slider and see if we can capture it...:)

You got a good trap.... I saw this on Ghostbusters, it's harder than it looks.

886 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:11:29am

re: #858 ploome hineni

o

are you serious?

Of course not! FBV is a Lizard of refined taste and impeccable standing!

887 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:11:31am

re: #881 reine.de.tout
When have they ever givin a damn about the children?
I mean really!
No ///

888 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:11:47am

re: #881 reine.de.tout

Interesting - in that photo, the guy holding the baby is behind two other people, and he is holding the child upright and to the side of the people in front of him, to ensure, I suppose, that the baby gets included in the photo.

That is a most unnatural way of holding a small child, particularly one who is wounded.

In addition - kid has blood streaming down his face, but his eyes are closed and he is not bawling - makes no sense - many of the kids in these photos are not crying. I don't get it.

889 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:11:56am

re: #847 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

How is the real operation going? You know, the one that isn't described by the Hamas propaganda?

According to The Muqata:
'5:04 PM Israel Channel 10 reports that IDF urban combat troops have entered Gaza City.'
(Lates entry on his blog)

890 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:12:18am

re: #884 ploome hineni

What? ....Ok ..I'm sorry!
Happy ?.......... LOL

891 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:12:27am

re: #886 SteveC

FBV is a Lizard of refined taste

How can anyone who would turn down a good filet mignon have "refined taste"? Nonsense, I say!

892 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:12:53am
893 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:03am

Later.

894 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:05am

re: #875 WriterMom

He's 100% alive, which is the best thing possible. And hopefully, the bastard who did this to him will rot in jail for the rest of his life. Glad to hear he's recovering.

The bastard killed himself right after he shot our Airman.

895 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:33am
896 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:47am

re: #851 Occasional Reader

Yeah, you need a hope and a prayer to get it up to highway speed. /

897 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:49am

re: #889 yma o hyd

According to The Muqata:
'5:04 PM Israel Channel 10 reports that IDF urban combat troops have entered Gaza City.'
(Lates entry on his blog)

Oooooooo!
(*prayers for the safety of the IDF*)

Comes the Main Event!

898 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:52am

re: #880 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That's terrible, where (geogrphically) did he get shot?

In the heart.

899 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:53am

re: #883 albusteve

if that happens Oboy will take a beating like he's never had....his anti-Semitism will light up like Xmas tree...he will have to justify it and he wont be able to...not everybody voted for that guy

Don't bet on that. This is the "moral equivalence" and " even handed broker" crowd. They will sell it as Israel's best chance for peace and we have to force Israel to do what's really in it's best interests because know better?

900 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:14:01am

re: #889 yma o hyd

According to The Muqata:
'5:04 PM Israel Channel 10 reports that IDF urban combat troops have entered Gaza City.'
(Lates entry on his blog)

Thank you... Good guy losses still very small, I pray?

901 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:14:02am

The frieghters are on the way !
3000 ton of .........ready....?
SHAMWOW'S!
IT'LL CLEANUP ANYTHING!

902 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:14:13am

re: #891 Occasional Reader

Ewwww. Didn't like filet when I ate meat.

The only meats I miss (10 years) are bologna and hot-dogs.

How can you say I am unrefined?

903 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:14:13am

re: #894 ciaospirit

I either totally forgot that part, or didn't know. Although I am glad he's dead, I would have prefered for him to suffer.

904 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:14:28am

re: #881 reine.de.tout

Interesting - in that photo, the guy holding the baby is behind two other people, and he is holding the child upright and to the side of the people in front of him, to ensure, I suppose, that the baby gets included in the photo.

That is a most unnatural way of holding a small child, particularly one who is wounded.

Since we're so close to the bloodfest that is named *spit* Ashura *spit*, it wouldn't surprise me this baby's relatives cut him. There is also absolutely no doubt this pic is staged and you're right - it's unnatural and a photo-op.

905 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:15:00am

re: #895 buzzsawmonkey

Someone tried it within fifty posts. Was a good try too.

Oh well, I understand.

906 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:15:01am

Franken wins - "25 precincts now have more ballots than voters who signed in to vote." That's the way you do it.

Franken is a lying liar POS.

907 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:15:08am

re: #888 reine.de.tout

In addition - kid has blood streaming down his face, but his eyes are closed and he is not bawling - makes no sense - many of the kids in these photos are not crying. I don't get it.


Hollywood make up artists can do wonderful things with moulage and make up... do you think that similar techniques may be employed here?

908 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:15:28am

re: #898 ciaospirit

In the heart.

OMG. I'm thankful he is still here...

909 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:15:49am
910 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:16:06am

re: #907 shanec99

Hollywood make up artists can do wonderful things with moulage and make up... do you think that similar techniques may be employed here?

Doubt they would bother. Professional wrestlers use a little razor. Very tiny cut produces a lot of blood.

911 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:16:21am

re: #819 lawhawk

Wounded by a tank shell (again, graphic photo warning)? CSI: Gaza is in overdrive. Reporting uncritically Hamas propaganda. How do we know it was a tank shell and not say, Hamas firing wildly to attack Israel?

We don't, but I say screw MSM - Israel should turn it around and stop wasting its breath denying the accusations of brutality. Let the Arab bastards REALLY think that Israel has gone totally ape-shit for once!
The (false) stories of brutal Israeli aggression, met with a uniform Israeli response of "no comment" is exactly what may help to terrorize Hamas and bring them to their cowardly knees.

912 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:16:32am

re: #726 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm feeling very stupid right now. What is the name of the lizard who posts using "pirate speak"? As soon as I press "post" I'll probably think of it. Been trying to remember. Was always on morning threads. Haven't seen him for a while.


Loflyer

913 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:16:48am
914 Caboose  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:03am

Another Democratic theft, this time by the big 0 hisself? The similarities are way too close to be a co-inky-dink!

The Big Cheezey is ripping us off! (Or will be soon enuff!)

%-)

915 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:09am

re: #897 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oooooooo!
(*prayers for the safety of the IDF*)

Comes the Main Event!

yes - pray for those brave IDF soldiers.

I think we won't hear anything abut this, for quite a while, the IDF is very parsimonious with what it tells the world and the greedy FMSM journalists - rightly so!

916 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:22am

re: #908 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

OMG. I'm thankful he is still here...

Me, too. He's been to Iraq numerous times. And then gets shot by a crazed America hater in New Jersey.

917 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:38am

re: #912 HoosierHoops

Thanks. Was answered earlier.

Saw a t-shirt online, said "The only reason Ninja's live is because Pirates let them".

918 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:46am

re: #881 reine.de.tout

This photo has a more accurate caption, claiming that another baby was allegedly injured by a tank shell. AP is actually using (again graphic photo warning) the modifier "allegedly" when regarding the source of the injuries sustained, as compared with Reuters, which categorically states that an Israeli tank shell was responsible for the injuries.

For Hamas, it's the grand parade of lifeless packaging. /grrrrr

919 opnion  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:18:31am

Hamas using ambulances paid for by the U.N to transport weapons & Hamas thugs would be no surprise.
The U.N is not fussy what it does with member nations cash.
When the Taliban ran Afhanistan, the U.N built them a soccer stadium.
The Taliban used it for executions of impure women & male thiefs.
The chief Taliban thug was asked why the stadium was not used for soccer. His answer, "Build us another one."

920 J.D.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:18:33am

re: #898 ciaospirit

In the heart.

Wow.

921 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:19:16am

re: #899 Nevergiveup

Don't bet on that. This is the "moral equivalence" and " even handed broker" crowd. They will sell it as Israel's best chance for peace and we have to force Israel to do what's really in it's best interests because know better?

that will be the result...maybe...still he will take a major smackdown and he doesnt like it when people do that...I'm not all sure he want to be a pimp for his ruthless Muslim fans...that's why I keep saying he has put himself in a terrible position...his priciples waver and he always has to play catch up....it will take it's toll...I do not see UN sanctions against Israel

922 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:19:30am

re: #909 buzzsawmonkey

Reminds me of the old Irish ballad, "The Wild Bolognial Boy."

A thug who liverwurst way possible.

923 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:19:46am

re: #910 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Doubt they would bother. Professional wrestlers use a little razor. Very tiny cut produces a lot of blood.


I saw a child's picture earlier today ... the child had what must have been 2nd and 3rd degree burns over the extremeties and abdomen... extrememly painful injuries... and no anguish on the child's face... I am convinced that make up utilizing professional training is involved.

924 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:26am

re: #913 Iron Fist

We know that they are lying about how this child died. A Merkava tank has a 120mm smoothbore main gun. If the kid had really been shot by a tank there wouldn't be anything but scrap to carry around.

I agree, but if the photo caption is correct, the family could have been injured by debris from the explosion.

925 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:27am

re: #906 FrogMarch

Franken wins - "25 precincts now have more ballots than voters who signed in to vote." That's the way you do it.

Franken is a lying liar POS.

'04 WA -- 2000 more ballots counted than voters who voted.

Same patterns as '04.

926 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:35am

re: #923 shanec99

Children are being hurt. You can bank on it. Shock/trauma can do crazy things.

I only have sympathy for the children. Not for the adults that put the children in this position.

927 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:47am

re: #916 ciaospirit

Me, too. He's been to Iraq numerous times. And then gets shot by a crazed America hater in New Jersey.

Sometimes you don't have to go too far to find our enemies. :-(

928 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:55am

re: #900 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Thank you... Good guy losses still very small, I pray?

Seven IDF soldiers were injured in fighting in Gaza Monday afternoon, the IDF Spokesperson's Unit Reported. (Hanan Greenberg)

Looks like there is another news balckout imposed by the IDF - long may it continue!

Yes, we'd like to know everything, now, but any news will be fed back into the Hamas and arab propaganda-Lies-machine, something we don't need. They do very well on their own.

929 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:22:22am
930 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:23:05am

re: #921 albusteve

that will be the result...maybe...still he will take a major smackdown and he doesnt like it when people do that...I'm not all sure he want to be a pimp for his ruthless Muslim fans...that's why I keep saying he has put himself in a terrible position...his priciples waver and he always has to play catch up....it will take it's toll...I do not see UN sanctions against Israel

No I don't see sanctions either, but any overt US pressure on Israel will put Israel between a rock and it's only Allie. Any any space between the USA and Israel will be taken as a weakness by both our enemies and make things worse. It ain't gonna be a pretty 4 years I fear.

931 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:24:23am

re: #907 shanec99

Hollywood make up artists can do wonderful things with moulage and make up... do you think that similar techniques may be employed here?

I'm very sorry to have to say this - but I would not put it past these hamasthugs to actually inflict proper wounds on their children themselves.
That might also account for the fact that they look somehow drugged.

Sorry about this - if I'm wrong I apologise unreservedly.

932 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:24:31am

re: #928 yma o hyd

Seven IDF soldiers were injured in fighting in Gaza Monday afternoon, the IDF Spokesperson's Unit Reported. (Hanan Greenberg)

Looks like there is another news balckout imposed by the IDF - long may it continue!

Yes, we'd like to know everything, now, but any news will be fed back into the Hamas and arab propaganda-Lies-machine, something we don't need. They do very well on their own.

Realizing the atmosphere they are forced to operate in, I don't know that a blackout is the best way to go... aggressively getting out the truth to counter the lies on all fronts would seem to be more effective.

/but I'm not in the information/PR biz... hopefully somebody that knows better is running this.

933 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:26:13am
934 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:26:18am

With most ( I hope all ) of the smuggling tunnels being shut down on the Gaza-Egypt border, I wonder who in the Egypt side is taking a financial hit?

935 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:26:25am

From Twitter, unconfirmed: "around 300 now at market and montgomery gaza protest. sfpd are making their presence known, driving through the intrsctin abo evry 2 mins"

Time stamp is 3 min ago

936 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:26:26am

re: #931 yma o hyd

I'm very sorry to have to say this - but I would not put it past these hamasthugs to actually inflict proper wounds on their children themselves.
That might also account for the fact that they look somehow drugged.

Sorry about this - if I'm wrong I apologise unreservedly.

They send their children out to blow themselves up, so how far off could you be? Its cultural child abuse.

937 Hard Right  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:26:51am

re: #906 FrogMarch

Franken wins - "25 precincts now have more ballots than voters who signed in to vote." That's the way you do it.

Franken is a lying liar POS.

The Minnesota way...

938 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:27:13am

re: #932 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

They're maintaining operational security, to limit Hamas' chances of knowing where, when, and how Israel is operating, along with what forces are involved.

Getting timely information out is key - particularly any video footage showing incidents that are likely to result in civilian casualties.

939 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:27:13am

re: #934 Nevergiveup

With most ( I hope all ) of the smuggling tunnels being shut down on the Gaza-Egypt border, I wonder who in the Egypt side is taking a financial hit?

why Gazan ex-pats of course!

940 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:27:25am

re: #937 Hard Right

The Minnesota way...

Kinda makes you feel good the Eagles kicked their asses yesterday?

941 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:28:16am

re: #939 albusteve

why Gazan ex-pats of course!

I bet some big wigs in the Egyptian Army and/or police!

942 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:28:21am

re: #932 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Realizing the atmosphere they are forced to operate in, I don't know that a blackout is the best way to go... aggressively getting out the truth to counter the lies on all fronts would seem to be more effective.

/but I'm not in the information/PR biz... hopefully somebody that knows better is running this.

I think the reason behind this is not to give any information about IDF movements in that small space to the hamassholes.
Anything which is out in the FMSM will be heard/seen by Hamas, and used against the IDF soldiers.

Once they're done, the IDF will provide info, they have done so already, many times.

943 Hard Right  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:28:24am

re: #911 Spare O'Lake

We don't, but I say screw MSM - Israel should turn it around and stop wasting its breath denying the accusations of brutality. Let the Arab bastards REALLY think that Israel has gone totally ape-shit for once!
The (false) stories of brutal Israeli aggression, met with a uniform Israeli response of "no comment" is exactly what may help to terrorize Hamas and bring them to their cowardly knees.

All the leftists idiots will eat it up. That's primarily who such BS is for. Zombie's blog is overun with trolls and mobys who believe all of it.

944 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:28:28am

re: #940 Nevergiveup

Kinda makes you feel good the Eagles kicked their asses yesterday?

Anytime the Viqueens get their asses kicked is a good day.

945 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:28:51am

re: #932 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Realizing the atmosphere they are forced to operate in, I don't know that a blackout is the best way to go... aggressively getting out the truth to counter the lies on all fronts would seem to be more effective.

/but I'm not in the information/PR biz... hopefully somebody that knows better is running this.

My 2 cents -- you have a point -- but if these ops are as intelligence intensive as you and I think they are, then perhaps (lesser of two evils) it's better to keep Hamas in the "fog of war", making it easier to get inside Hamas' OODA loop.

946 Hard Right  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:29:05am

re: #940 Nevergiveup

Kinda makes you feel good the Eagles kicked their asses yesterday?

That's why I cheered for the Eagles. First Keith Ellison and now franken. >:(

947 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:29:25am

Twitter: (Unconfirmed): "father Gaza: series of bombs in a row, large white halo,white smoke; irritation, and exposed areas become red, blistered, and itchy."

Lady, I think your dad might be pulling your leg.

948 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:00am

re: #932 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Realizing the atmosphere they are forced to operate in, I don't know that a blackout is the best way to go... aggressively getting out the truth to counter the lies on all fronts would seem to be more effective.

/but I'm not in the information/PR biz... hopefully somebody that knows better is running this.

You have to have venue to get the truth out. Most people swallow what the MSM feeds them, no questions. We know the MSM will spin even releases by the IDF. All the MSM talked about the IAF whacking a Mosque. I didn't see one show the massive secondary explosions.

949 Hard Right  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:02am

re: #947 SteveC

Twitter: (Unconfirmed): "father Gaza: series of bombs in a row, large white halo,white smoke; irritation, and exposed areas become red, blistered, and itchy."

Lady, I think your dad might be pulling your leg.

Tell him to leave the sick goats alone.

950 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:20am

re: #933 buzzsawmonkey

Progressive love for the Anointed One.


Heh.
Better add a few more red chords into that 3am phone call !

951 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:27am

Bush still hanging tough with Israel. He just released statement.

952 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:29am

re: #926 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Children are being hurt. You can bank on it. Shock/trauma can do crazy things.

I only have sympathy for the children. Not for the adults that put the children in this position.


There is no doubt that children are being hurt... but I believe that some of the injuries are being staged for the press... a culture that will strap bombs to children and make them into suicide bombers and tell them it is wonderful knows no limits of how they will exploit their children.

953 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:34am
954 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:43am

re: #941 Nevergiveup

I bet some big wigs in the Egyptian Army and/or police!

more likely...if I wasnt so lazy I learn more about it!

955 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:59am

re: #952 shanec99

There is no doubt that children are being hurt... but I believe that some of the injuries are being staged for the press... a culture that will strap bombs to children and make them into suicide bombers and tell them it is wonderful knows no limits of how they will exploit their children.

Cultural child abuse

956 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:31:07am

When soldiers finds a tunnel inside a house, do they toss some grenades down it or would that be dangerous in case there are explosives in the tunnel?

957 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:31:17am

re: #932 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I don't know that a blackout is the best way to go... aggressively getting out the truth to counter the lies

Sometimes I think it is impossible to get the truth out to the average person through the MSM, no matter how good a job Israel did releasing it, because they ultimately aren't the ones presenting the info in living rooms across the planet.

We wouldn't give all the information to Hamas spokesmen and expect them to present the Israeli side fairly. And sometimes, I see little difference in bias between Hamas and AP/Reuters/CNN/BBC/etc.

958 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:13am

re: #938 lawhawk

They're maintaining operational security, to limit Hamas' chances of knowing where, when, and how Israel is operating, along with what forces are involved.

Getting timely information out is key - particularly any video footage showing incidents that are likely to result in civilian casualties.

I can work with OPSEC... I just think it is in our best interest to get out film of the areas already cleared showing IDF troops caring for wounded, being kind to the locals and all that. Lots of it. Show IDF troops in lighter moments (proving they are not "hardened killers" or whatever kind of monster the Hamas image tries to show).

No need to chow active operations on-going so that Hamas can plot it on a map.

959 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:49am
960 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:51am

Oh, another round of propoganda -- twitteres are saying Israel is using "Chemical and Pulmonary Weapons!"

961 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:52am

re: #944 Creeping Eruption

Anytime the Viqueens get their asses kicked is a good day.

it's a quazi holiday in my world....

962 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:09am

re: #954 albusteve

more likely...if I wasnt so lazy I learn more about it!

Well the Egyptians control that side of the border and they don't have to many "Human Rights Nosiebodies" looking over their shoulders. All those weapons and color TV's getting into Gaza are getting their WITH their permission no matter what bullshit comes out of Cairo.

963 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:35am

re: #959 buzzsawmonkey

MOAD

964 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:38am

re: #956 MandyManners

When soldiers finds a tunnel inside a house, do they toss some grenades down it or would that be dangerous in case there are explosives in the tunnel?

Could be very dangerous.
Might use a long-fused satchel charge.
Don't know what IDF tactical doctrine is.

965 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:43am

re: #956 MandyManners

When soldiers finds a tunnel inside a house, do they toss some grenades down it or would that be dangerous in case there are explosives in the tunnel?

Could use delay fuses?

966 TaeJohnDo  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:50am

re: #950 notutopia

Heh.
Better add a few more red chords into that 3am phone call !

And she made his ears too small -- they look normal.

967 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:34:21am

re: #948 jcm

You have to have venue to get the truth out. Most people swallow what the MSM feeds them, no questions. We know the MSM will spin even releases by the IDF. All the MSM talked about the IAF whacking a Mosque. I didn't see one show the massive secondary explosions.

I think you can defeat spin by volume... (a guess really, but I really don't like the concept of surrendering the initiative).

/I do agree with the possible "lesser of evils" argument.

968 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:34:51am

re: #925 jcm

'04 WA -- 2000 more ballots counted than voters who voted.

Same patterns as '04.

Well, if they can cheat to win, and no one calls the democrats on it, why not keep doing it?

969 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:35:16am

re: #955 Creeping Eruption

Cultural child abuse

It is child abuse here. To them it's socially acceptable and expected of a child. They are mere possessions to them. I said this before and was rebuked for saying that child abuse is not tolerated in only socially developed countries.
This social conditioning begins at birth. It lasts until you die. The cycle of social conditioning is multi generational.

970 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:35:44am
971 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:06am

re: #968 FrogMarch

Well, if they can cheat to win, and no one calls the democrats on it, why not keep doing it?

'zactly. I hope the Coleman team and the (R)s put up a stiff fight on this.

972 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:17am

re: #962 Nevergiveup

Well the Egyptians control that side of the border and they don't have to many "Human Rights Nosiebodies" looking over their shoulders. All those weapons and color TV's getting into Gaza are getting their WITH their permission no matter what bullshit comes out of Cairo.

that's a given...they are after all Arabs

973 VegasRick  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:19am

re: #966 TaeJohnDo

And she made his ears too small -- they look normal.

Did you look at some of the other pictures? Palin killing the statue of Liberty. Very classy folks.
/

974 vxbush  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:21am

Okay, I'm late to the game today, and this week will be crazy again at work. Who knows when I'll be online.

So: What's the news of the day?

975 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:42am

I just wonder when the Palestinians are gonna wake up and see they have no friends in the Arab World. In reality, their best friends are the Jews. The sooner they admit that, the sooner they might actually be able to build a better life for themselves?

976 ayatollah ghilmeini  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:45am

Reason, objectivity and truth

Milan Kundera once famously observed that if a lunatic came racing down the street shouting all people are fish, you don't have to remove your shirt to show him you have no scales.

The Gaza war, according to leftists, Islamists, internationalists and various NGO's, is genocide. It must be true the pictures form the Melbourne Demonstration declare Zionists are doing genocide in Gaza and "dirty" "sub-human" "landgrabbing" "murder"ing Zionists, having committed worse crimes than Hitler himself and should be put to death.

Certainly, the Jews and Israel has forfeited all right to exist.

If supporting the idea of the right to a Jewish State is the same thing as advocating the annihilation of the inhabitants of Gaza, then I am surely guilty and deserve to die for my crimes. The killing of a few hundred Palestinians, the overwhelming majority of who were armed, is worse that what Hitler did.

I will not deign to remove my shirt for these lunatics who are so full of propagandized hatred they know neither right from wrong nor fact from fiction and whose entire intellectual existence is a world apart from the one we live in. While I grant that it is possible that I am in compete ignorance about basic 20th century history and my judgment about Hitler is somehow clouded by my sincere belief he annihilated Europe's Jews but I am nevertheless willing to believe the eyewitness accounts of people I have known, the thousands of books and articles I have read to say nothing of the contemporary news reports of the time over the historical expertise of people who are the product of the worst educational systems in the world and who grew up in regimes that never allowed a single news report to be broadcast that was not a weapon to be used against its citizens.

Then there are the leftists, who are the most educated intelligent people on earth, who have the answer to everything except how 120 million people in the last century died as the proximate result of the implementation of their morality and ideas on the people of Europe, Russia, China, Cuba, Africa, North Korea and parts of South Asia.

If ever anything exposed the colossal willful ignorance and falsehoods used against the Jews and Israel, the images and words blasting from screens all over the world, if they could all be captured in a bag and properly refuted, the world would be a better place. But they can't. This is the deadly nature of a lie; once heard and believed, even by fools, it can never be undone.

The few hundred armed Palestinians to have died in nine days of fighting is therefore a much larger number than those killed in holocaust. The evil Zionist press is hiding the millions of people in Gaza that have died. Millions I tell you. There are veritable mountains of Palestinian dead the size of Everest, and we send the most succulent parts of the dead babies to Bush and Cheney to thank them for their support.

I will not take off my shirt for them, but I will take off my shirt to say to you, reader to have no doubt of the following facts:

-Under Hitler's Germany, about 3000 Jews a day died for almost six years.
-Almost 60 million people died in WWII
-The Jews of Europe were less than 5% of Europe's pre-WWII population but almost 25% of the civilians killed.
-Muslims supported Hitler and raised fighters for his Army
-Almost half of Israel's Jews are descended from Holocaust survivors.

Someone is living in a universe diametrically opposed to reality, it is them or us, but I will be damned if I will be silent in the face of what I know are ignorant base lies aimed at pinning the Jewish state down to be cut to pieces by a factually challenged horde whose brains are hopelessly filled with lies and ignorance.

I have this crazy notion that facts and truth actually matter, that there is something in this world as objective reality and that intelligent people will read this and see I have no scales.

977 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:49am

re: #968 FrogMarch

Well, if they can cheat to win, and no one calls the democrats on it, why not keep doing it?

The only way to fix this is to take the overvote count and subtract it from the existing Coleman total.
/MSM

978 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:58am

re: #952 shanec99

There is no doubt that children are being hurt... but I believe that some of the injuries are being staged for the press... a culture that will strap bombs to children and make them into suicide bombers and tell them it is wonderful knows no limits of how they will exploit their children.

I keep wanting to draw a cartoon, but I'll describe it here:
First frame: Medieval knight. Caption "Medieval Arnir"
Second frame: Bulletproof vest. Caption "Modern armor"
Third frame: Children standing in front of terrorist with weapons. Caption "Modern Muslim armor"

979 cartoonboy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:28am

Israel declares cease-fire in honor of Hug a Terrorist Day.
Remember, the theme is: love your murderer - consider his feelings, we all have flaws. Don't judge-love.

980 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:42am

Brainless wonder in his momma's basement has twitter. He said "Maybe this whole Gaza conflict would end if Obama just had some "firm" words for them."

981 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:47am
982 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:19am

Social Conditioning: The Most Powerful Mind Altering Drug Of All

[Link: www.orble.com...]

983 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:36am

re: #967 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I think you can defeat spin by volume... (a guess really, but I really don't like the concept of surrendering the initiative).

/I do agree with the possible "lesser of evils" argument.

Another penny to add to the other two -- given that the MSM is hostile and/or clueless, what matters in the end is results. What if the IDF were to get very good results in the long term by sacrificing "position" in the short-term PR market?

/aw hell, I'm nit-picking!

984 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:45am
"We don't do deals with terror, we fight terror" added the foreign minister. "The moment we do deals with terror is the moment we can no longer conduct a real peace process."
- Tzipi Livni


I do so want to believe that Kadima has really changed course, but it's not easy to overlook Kadima's dismal track record. Still, Livni is a whole lot easier to believe than the crook.

985 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:39:07am
986 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:39:09am

re: #980 SteveC

Brainless wonder in his momma's basement has twitter. He said "Maybe this whole Gaza conflict would end if Obama just had some "firm" words for them."

I got a firm boot for his ass.

987 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:39:12am

re: #977 jwb7605

The only way to fix this is to take the overvote count and subtract it from the existing Coleman total.
/MSM

sad but true. It's the new Democrat party/ MSM math.

988 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:39:21am

re: #960 SteveC

Oh, another round of propoganda -- twitteres are saying Israel is using "Chemical and Pulmonary Weapons!"

Lead is a chemical.

989 VegasRick  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:39:35am

re: #980 SteveC

Brainless wonder in his momma's basement has twitter. He said "Maybe this whole Gaza conflict would end if Obama just had some "firm" words for them."

The Israeli's that is.
/moonbat.

990 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:39:50am

re: #960 SteveC

Oh, another round of propoganda -- twitteres are saying Israel is using "Chemical and Pulmonary Weapons!"

Yeah right!
I bet they finally caught up with this 'report' in The Times/London:
Israel rains fire on Gaza with phosphorus shells

Thats the stuff Lizards yesterday described as anti-aircraft stuff (sorry, am not up to all these military technical descriptions!).

991 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:40:07am

re: #979 cartoonboy

Israel declares cease-fire in honor of Hug a Terrorist Day.
Remember, the theme is: love your murderer - consider his feelings, we all have flaws. Don't judge-love.

Terrorists should be hugged by this

992 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:40:10am

re: #985 Iron Fist

I've said it before, and it's true: Republicans have no balls. None.

are you a Republican?
:)

993 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:40:27am

re: #973 VegasRick

Did you look at some of the other pictures? Palin killing the statue of Liberty. Very classy folks.
/

And I'll ask (rhetorically) again; since when were "progressives" interested in liberty?

994 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:42:02am

re: #993 Occasional Reader

And I'll ask (rhetorically) again; since when were "progressives" interested in liberty?

forever in terms of reducing them...

995 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:42:27am

re: #983 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Another penny to add to the other two -- given that the MSM is hostile and/or clueless, what matters in the end is results. What if the IDF were to get very good results in the long term by sacrificing "position" in the short-term PR market?

/aw hell, I'm nit-picking!

Dunno... above my pay-grade (and Barry's too, probably) :-)

The thing about the MSM is they can't help themselves but fall all over good video. We can use that against their attempt to spin it.

/I think.

996 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:42:41am

re: #960 SteveC

Oh, another round of propoganda -- twitteres are saying Israel is using "Chemical and Pulmonary Weapons!"

Is that like tear-gas? Perish the thought!

997 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:43:35am

re: #996 Spare O'Lake

Is that like tear-gas? Perish the thought!

Couldn't be tear gas; the "injured children" would be crying. Must be anti-tear gas.
/

998 VegasRick  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:43:46am

re: #993 Occasional Reader

And I'll ask (rhetorically) again; since when were "progressives" interested in liberty?

Gawd I hate that word. Whenever I hear someone descibe themselves as "progressive" I want to puke or worse.

999 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:43:49am

re: #978 Kosh's Shadow

I keep wanting to draw a cartoon, but I'll describe it here:
First frame: Medieval knight. Caption "Medieval Arnir"
Second frame: Bulletproof vest. Caption "Modern armor"
Third frame: Children standing in front of terrorist with weapons. Caption "Modern Muslim armor"


It would be more accurate to caption it: Islamic Armor. Islamic warriors have never been able to fight disciplined Western Soldiers (Saladin and the Ottoman Turks being the exception). But Western armies have long dealt with the blood thirsty Islamic Armies and defeated them because they were more concerned with raping, plundering and taking slaves (See Charles Martel and the Battle at Lourdes). They have used civilians as shileds throughout their history, and we should not expect them to change today.

1000 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:43:59am

re: #995 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Dunno... above my pay-grade (and Barry's too, probably) :-)

The thing about the MSM is they can't help themselves but fall all over good video. We can use that against their attempt to spin it.

/I think.

and THAT is an excellent point TOO!
hmmm ... something to think about.

1001 Caboose  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:44:13am

re: #946 Hard Right

That's why I cheered for the Eagles. First Keith Ellison and now franken. >:(

Don't forget all them lovely Somali cabbies in Minneapolis, either.

If Franken-fraud steals this one (can we refer to this fraud as "Thefts and the Thieving Thieves That Steal Elections; A Account of The Modern Democratic Party."?) I'm starting my own one-man boycott of all things and businesses based in Minnesota as long as he is seated. See ya, Target! Bye-bye, Best Buy! No more, Nut Goodies (my kids will hate me for that one).

1002 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:44:31am

re: #990 yma o hyd

Yeah right!
I bet they finally caught up with this 'report' in The Times/London:
Israel rains fire on Gaza with phosphorus shells

Thats the stuff Lizards yesterday described as anti-aircraft stuff (sorry, am not up to all these military technical descriptions!).

Nothing about those rounds makes me think WP... they are deploying bomblets of one sort or another.

/WP makes a characteristic "flower" of white smoke going up and out from the blast...

1003 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:44:32am
1004 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:44:52am

re: #933 buzzsawmonkey

Progressive love for the Anointed One.

The third picture (Obama looking forward charismatically with arrows behind him pointing "forward") really freaks me out.

1005 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:44:58am

re: #985 Iron Fist

I've said it before, and it's true: Republicans have no balls. None.

I agree. but they are up against a system that is filled with corruption. When the judges are democrats, the canvasing boards are corrupt, basically you have corruption at every level by one-party (D). That is not easy to fight.


then there's the double vote counting:

Under Minnesota law, election officials are required to make a duplicate ballot if the original is damaged during Election Night counting. Officials are supposed to mark these as "duplicate" and segregate the original ballots. But it appears some officials may have failed to mark ballots as duplicates, which are now being counted in addition to the originals. This helps explain why more than 25 precincts now have more ballots than voters who signed in to vote. By some estimates this double counting has yielded Mr. Franken an additional 80 to 100 votes.

from WSJ link:
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

1006 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:45:32am

re: #965 Nevergiveup

Could use delay fuses?

How much time?

1007 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:45:48am

re: #984 Spare O'Lake

If you want to get totally discouraged, read Caroline Glick on this stuff.

1008 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:46:02am

Someone has a new twitter account (brand new - 3 posts, total) but they are using Al-Jazeera's logo and calling themselves "AlJazera".

Here are two of the three posts they've made:

"Hamas says it is about to be wiped out - trying to find a way for cease fire"

"The leaders of Hamas say "we will hide as long as needed, our women and children will suffer for us"

Wonder if this is IDF or just someone trying to yank the Pali's chain?

1009 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:46:19am

re: #976 ayatollah ghilmeini

Thank you, again a powerful and brilliant post!

One footnote: words also matter.
when the MSM everywhere report that of the Gazans killed so far, 25% were civilians, shock, horror - nobody actually asks what then were the 75% who were also killed: hamasthugs, terrorists who would kill any infidel, after they've finished off the Jews ...

1010 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:46:32am

re: #1006 MandyManners

How much time?

Enough to haul ass away...

1011 J.S.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:16am

re: #974 vxbush

Today there are two top "news" stories. One deals with the domestic economy in the United States. The other deals with Israel vs HAMAS. (The EU is apparently taking a lead role, since the Bush Administration has pretty much exited the scene...And, it appears that the EU is split -- so, some EU nation-states are blaming HAMAS as the instigator (Germany), while others in the EU are blaming Israel (Sweden's position); and then there are those who blame both equally (that would be, iirc, the UK's position -- the moral equivalence argument -- or there is no difference between a terrorist murderer and those who go after the terrorists).

1012 VegasRick  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:23am

re: #1008 SteveC

Someone has a new twitter account (brand new - 3 posts, total) but they are using Al-Jazeera's logo and calling themselves "AlJazera".

Here are two of the three posts they've made:

"Hamas says it is about to be wiped out - trying to find a way for cease fire"

"The leaders of Hamas say "we will hide as long as needed, our women and children will suffer for us"

Wonder if this is IDF or just someone trying to yank the Pali's chain?

Those two statements are pretty fucking accurate!

1013 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:30am

re: #1006 MandyManners

How much time?

The delay can be variable. It depends on how far the person setting it has to go to get to safe cover. I guess they would also have to have some knowledge of where the tunnel goes and what might be in it?

1014 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:45am

re: #960 SteveC

Oh, another round of propoganda -- twitteres are saying Israel is using "Chemical and Pulmonary Weapons!"

LUNG WEAPONS! What will Da Juice think up next?! Kidney grenades? Spleen shells? Liver spots?

1015 nyc redneck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:48:35am

re: #816 ploome hineni

thats the POS....did I say POS?

Colonel West, a jive talking, (did I say POS?), huckster

/spit

giving this obnoxious jackass a platform and pretending he is a scholarly relevant person is such a travesty. and a perfect example of why our education system is in trouble.
he is a joke.

1016 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:01am

re: #1010 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Enough to haul ass away...

I was wondering if one tunnel has explosives that will go off under several houses, thereby endangering other soldiers. What if several blocks of Gaza City are wired underground?

1017 Sheepdogess  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:01am

re: #759 jcm

I knew he would steal the election. I live in WA and watched it happen here several times.

I am afraid this is just the beginning of stolen elections. I worked as a poll worker and had to attend "classes". Yea right. The instructors and the vast majority of the workers were dems. You might ask how can they can pull this off.

THEY COUNT PROVISIONAL (MOSTLY FRAUDULENT) BALLOTS FROM HEAVILY LIBERAL PRECINCTS, WHILE BALLOT BAGS FROM CONSERVATIVE PRECINCTS MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPEAR (STASHED IN A SAFE PLACE UNTIL AFTER THE LIBERAL CANDIDATE HAS BEEN SWORN INTO OFFICE). Taking it to court is a waste of time as most of the judges are partisan democrats.

Meanwhile, stuck on the hill in the snow again. No salting of the roads allowed here. The runoff might make Puget Sound more salty.

1018 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:05am
1019 vxbush  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:05am

Can I say, for the record, that I cannot stand twitter and the idea of news outlets like Al Jazeera using twitter to propagandize just irks me to no end?

1020 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:14am

re: #1014 Occasional Reader

LUNG WEAPONS! What will Da Juice think up next?! Kidney grenades? Spleen shells? Liver spots?

Foot balls in their muskets?

1021 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:16am

re: #1003 Iron Fist

Let's face it. Republicans screwed up. Nixon should have sued JFK to keep the Presidency away from a man who was going to make some of the biggest mistakes in the 20th century.

Possibly, but Johnson kept us out of war until Nixon stole the next election and started the Vietnam war.

The reason I know that is because I've recently learned history from a couple of high school kids. These kids also are smart. They know Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, which caused us to declare war on Germany. They aren't real sure what WWI was all about, but can discuss the Civil War (the one before WWII) which got started because of slavery.

1022 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:28am

re: #1014 Occasional Reader

LUNG WEAPONS! What will Da Juice think up next?! Kidney grenades? Spleen shells? Liver spots?

Juice. Crever Juice...

1023 Sizzlack  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:30am
Meanwhile, the IDF infiltrated Hamas's television broadcasts and issued a call to Palestinian non-combatants not to serve as human shields to Hamas terrorists, Israel Radio reported.

Nice move.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

1024 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:35am

re: #1005 FrogMarch

from WSJ link:
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

pretty much says it all right there but I'm not convinced the situation is hopeless yet....politically we need a couple of monster voter turnouts for quality candidates and at least stem the tide

1025 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:48am

re: #1016 MandyManners

I was wondering if one tunnel has explosives that will go off under several houses, thereby endangering other soldiers. What if several blocks of Gaza City are wired underground?

Yes that is a consideration, so that is why it might be good idea to know a little about the tunnel.

1026 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:50:30am

They're using WHITE PHOSPHORUS!

But look at the photos... those shells look outbound, AND 'shopped!

1027 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:50:55am

re: #1019 vxbush

Can I say, for the record, that I cannot stand twitter and the idea of news outlets like Al Jazeera using twitter to propagandize just irks me to no end?

Twitter (and other things of that ilk) is one of the aspect of This Modern World that I truly cannot grasp. People voluntarily want everyone to know what they're doing at all times?

1028 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:51:08am

Arab states to present UN with new draft of ceasefire proposal
Published: 01.05.09, 18:14 / Israel News
Arab countries will arrive present the UN Security Council with a new draft of the ceasefire proposal regarding the fighting in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian Foreign Minister Palestinian Foreign Minister Riyad al-Maliki. (AFP)

As a aside, the manuscript is also up for the Fiction of the Year award.

1029 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:51:20am

re: #1010 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Enough to haul ass away...

maybe they have dogs to lead the way...and aren't pigs good a sniffing explosives out?.....maybe that's mushrooms

1030 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:51:29am
1031 VegasRick  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:51:59am

re: #1022 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Juice. Crever Juice...

We got OJ. Literally.

1032 J.S.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:52:10am

re: #1019 vxbush

CNN has a program on in the afternoon, and the program's host (Rick Sanchez) has people using twitter, and all the moronic comments from his viewers then appear on the "ticker" -- as if it were "news." Utterly disgusting...(but, then, you probably knew all that...)

1033 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:52:31am

re: #1016 MandyManners

I was wondering if one tunnel has explosives that will go off under several houses, thereby endangering other soldiers. What if several blocks of Gaza City are wired underground?

That's possible.

You have three choices:

1) Risk it and hope for the best.

2) Have some sort of sonic mapping system that can "see" the tunnel underground and see where it goes.

3) Find some seriously brave and crazy volunteers to be Tunnel Rats to go a) clear the tunnel and b) determine where it goes.

/If you do #3, you risk some very brave soldiers and may not need to blow the thing in the end anyway.

Oh, I forgot:

4) Bring up concrete mixers and just fill the entrances with concrete.

1034 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:52:39am

re: #1014 Occasional Reader

LUNG WEAPONS! What will Da Juice think up next?! Kidney grenades? Spleen shells? Liver spots?

I bet they've already used plenty of colon bombs and many Hamas have pooped their pants.

1035 Sizzlack  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:52:47am

re: #1027 Occasional Reader

Twitter (and other things of that ilk) is one of the aspect of This Modern World that I truly cannot grasp. People voluntarily want everyone to know what they're doing at all times?

Same with Facebook. You can be notified of the most minute changes to a 'friends' profile. Do you really need to let everyone know you came home to change your clothes? So weird. Why anyone would volunteer to live in '1984' is beyond me.

1036 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:53:09am

re: #1034 MandyManners

I bet they've already used plenty of colon bombs and many Hamas have pooped their pants.

They'll manage on their own. No munitions needed.

1037 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:53:09am

The game's up on Twitter: "Propaganda machine using Al Jazeera logo to pass DISINFORMATION about gaza"

Four or five twitterers have repeated this. Apparently it's no fun when it's happening to your side.

1038 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:53:10am

re: #1025 Nevergiveup

Yes that is a consideration, so that is why it might be good idea to know a little about the tunnel.

A rabbit warren of war.

1039 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:54:06am

re: #1021 jwb7605

Possibly, but Johnson kept us out of war until Nixon stole the next election and started the Vietnam war.

And don't forget, Saint JFK was all about getting us out of Vietnam and making friends with the Russians, and did all sort of amazing things for civil rights here at home (just don't ask for any specific examples), and that's why the military-industrial complex had to kill him. By the way, Oswald was clearly a red herring, it's completely impossible to fire three aimed shots with a bolt-action rifle in seven seconds, everybody knows that!

/

1040 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:54:20am

re: #1038 MandyManners

A rabbit warren of war.

Were is Bill Murry when you really need him?

1041 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:54:27am

re: #1029 albusteve

maybe they have dogs to lead the way...and aren't pigs good a sniffing explosives out?.....maybe that's mushrooms

Won't do us much good... we already know there are explosives down there. It's the possible Hamasthugs there that have to be killed so the explosives can be destroyed.

1042 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:54:38am

re: #1033 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That's possible.

You have three choices:

1) Risk it and hope for the best.

2) Have some sort of sonic mapping system that can "see" the tunnel underground and see where it goes.

3) Find some seriously brave and crazy volunteers to be Tunnel Rats to go a) clear the tunnel and b) determine where it goes.

/If you do #3, you risk some very brave soldiers and may not need to blow the thing in the end anyway.

Oh, I forgot:

4) Bring up concrete mixers and just fill the entrances with concrete.

No. 4 sounds doable but, what if the eplosives go off months/years down the road? Is there a temporary plug that only the IDF can remove?

1043 jaunte  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:54:47am

re: #1033 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

5) Lake of sewage, and pump.

1044 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:29am

re: #1043 jaunte

5) Lake of sewage, and pump.

I think they're already doing this.

1045 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:43am

re: #1026 SteveC

They're using WHITE PHOSPHORUS!

But look at the photos... those shells look outbound, AND 'shopped!

Thats exactly the same photo used in the TIMES report I linked to further upthread!

Again:
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

1046 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:45am

re: #1038 MandyManners

A rabbit warren of war.

Similar thing happened under Stalingrad in WW2. Great big bloody mess.

Not something the IDF wants to get involved in.

1047 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:50am
1048 jaunte  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:56:11am

re: #1044 notutopia

Recycling!

1049 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:56:26am

re: #1040 Nevergiveup

Were is Bill Murry when you really need him?

varmint cong...hehe

1050 Sizzlack  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:57:22am

re: #1047 buzzsawmonkey

BTW, anyone else think that Sarkozy's dedication to some sort of ceasefire has a lot to do with his interest in keeping the car-be-que level in France at slow smolder rather than open flame?

I read somewhere he's trying to insert himself into the gap left open by the transition of the EU Presidency as well as the Bush->Obama transition. But I could also see it as a way to keep a lid on those pesky 'youths'.

1051 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:57:30am

re: #1033 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That's possible.

You have three choices:

1) Risk it and hope for the best.

2) Have some sort of sonic mapping system that can "see" the tunnel underground and see where it goes.

3) Find some seriously brave and crazy volunteers to be Tunnel Rats to go a) clear the tunnel and b) determine where it goes.

/If you do #3, you risk some very brave soldiers and may not need to blow the thing in the end anyway.

Oh, I forgot:

4) Bring up concrete mixers and just fill the entrances with concrete.

Your #3: Golani Tunnel Rat escapes kidnap attempt.

1052 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:57:35am

re: #1041 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Won't do us much good... we already know there are explosives down there. It's the possible Hamasthugs there that have to be killed so the explosives can be destroyed.

I thought the question was if there were explosives or not

1053 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:57:45am

re: #1042 MandyManners

No. 4 sounds doable but, what if the eplosives go off months/years down the road? Is there a temporary plug that only the IDF can remove?

It could happen. Nothing about this will be safe forever. I suppose the plugs could be "drilled out" or something later on, but I wouldn't want to be the poor men tasked with going in there to see what remains... the whole thing is probably rigged.

1054 bulwrk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:57:48am

re: #1026 SteveC


But look at the photos... those shells look outbound, AND 'shopped!

It looks like incoming,airburst

1055 vxbush  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:57:49am

re: #1032 J.S.

CNN has a program on in the afternoon, and the program's host (Rick Sanchez) has people using twitter, and all the moronic comments from his viewers then appear on the "ticker" -- as if it were "news." Utterly disgusting...(but, then, you probably knew all that...)

Twitter just confirms my desire to go completely off the grid sometimes.

1056 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:57:51am

re: #1047 buzzsawmonkey

BTW, anyone else think that Sarkozy's dedication to some sort of ceasefire has a lot to do with his interest in keeping the car-be-que level in France at slow smolder rather than open flame?

I think it's because Carla Bruni told him he wouldn't get to play "The Naughty Contessa and the Stablehand" with her until there was a durable and sustainable ceasefire in Gaza.

1057 jester6  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:07am

re: #968 FrogMarch

Well, if they can cheat to win, and no one calls the democrats on it, why not keep doing it?

I don't think they are going to stop. They have been pushing the meme that GWB stole the election in 2000 for 8 years now. Add that to the moral relativism folks on the left practice and they feel they have a obligation to cheat to win.

The Washinton Governor and now Minnesota Senate. I showed my wife - who is not a political junky and knew nothing about the race - some pictures of ballots clearly for Coleman that the canvassing committee gave to Franken. They were posted at Fox News last week. She simply could not get her head around the idea that someone would be that openly dishonest.

The Canvassing Board was not even trying to pretend to be objective.

Most people, even most people in Minnesota, don't realize how egregious this recount has been.

I remember in the 1990s when Clinton won and all the people on the far right wing nutjobs were forming militias to protect against the coming UN invasion. Those people are getting restless again.

But this time there are a lot of non-whacko's buying guns and getting ready to hunker down because they do not know what to expect from this new crowd. Lot's of small business owners see stuff like the Minnesota, the Illinois appointment and the Obama's rhetoric as signs of serious instability. They are diverting money from business purchases and hording cash because they have this feeling they now live in a banana republic.

A socialist government, total distrust in the media and the self-fulfilling recession behavior by the folks in the read counties are going to make this a very interesting few years.

1058 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:19am
1059 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:20am

re: #1033 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Find some seriously brave and crazy volunteers to be Tunnel Rats to go a) clear the tunnel and b) determine where it goes.

Good job for a robot.

1060 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:30am

re: #1047 buzzsawmonkey

BTW, anyone else think that Sarkozy's dedication to some sort of ceasefire has a lot to do with his interest in keeping the car-be-que level in France at slow smolder rather than open flame?

Nooooo ...
Would he really?

//

1061 vxbush  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:32am

re: #1035 Sizzlack

Same with Facebook. You can be notified of the most minute changes to a 'friends' profile. Do you really need to let everyone know you came home to change your clothes? So weird. Why anyone would volunteer to live in '1984' is beyond me.

Okay, that's nuts. But I know professors are using facebook in a positive way in their classes, so I can see a use for it in some circumstances. But twitter is just wasted electrons.

1062 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:45am

re: #1053 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It could happen. Nothing about this will be safe forever. I suppose the plugs could be "drilled out" or something later on, but I wouldn't want to be the poor men tasked with going in there to see what remains... the whole thing is probably rigged.

robots

1063 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:58am
1064 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:59:19am

re: #1048 jaunte

Recycling!

Seriously, they are walking in sewer and water due to the broken mains. What a better solution than to pump it into the tunnels. Would you crawl through shit to get your supplies into Hamas?

1065 Pyrocles  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:59:49am

Just a slick word for "Communist". Progressives are cowardly Communists afraid to disclose their true ideology.

re: #998 VegasRick

Gawd I hate that word. Whenever I hear someone descibe themselves as "progressive" I want to puke or worse.

1066 VegasRick  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:00:35am

re: #1065 Pyrocles

Just a slick word for "Communist". Progressives are cowardly Communists afraid to disclose their true ideology.

Yep.

1067 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:00:36am

re: #1052 albusteve

I thought the question was if there were explosives or not

Pretty safe to assume there is something there... even just some small arms ammo and handgrenades...

Explosive sniffy dogs/pigs work well in a place where you don't expect _any_ explosive residue (like an airport in the civilized world). Here, they will merely OD on evidence. ;-)

1068 jaunte  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:00:55am

re: #1064 notutopia

I agree, I think it's a good temporary solution to both problems.

1069 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:01:06am

re: #1063 buzzsawmonkey

History is made at night.

You could say that about alot of world leaders and it would not be an appealing vision, but in this case...u la la!

1070 yma o hyd  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:01:22am

re: #1063 buzzsawmonkey

History is made at night.

Especially if one doesn't have long to cherchez for the femme!

1071 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:01:24am

re: #1059 Mich-again

Good job for a robot.

Forgot that... good, new fangled thinking!

1072 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:01:36am

re: #1057 jester6

Great post. Total agreement.

1073 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:02:13am
1074 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:03:15am

re: #1073 Iron Fist

It helps to remember that JFK was a saint. Obama is not a saint.

He is a god. Gods get to make shit up as they go along.

and he does...so therefore he is

1075 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:03:21am

Up topic

1076 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:04:06am

re: #1055 vxbush

Twitter just confirms my desire to go completely off the grid sometimes.

Twitter comes in handy when something is going on, it's like having a scanner that picks up the news. You just have to remember that 80% or more of twitter users are idiots.

Anyone with a twitter account, keyboard, and internet connection can type anything. And there are yahoos who think that since they saw it on the internet, it must be true!

SteveC is putting the twitter down now; the owner of the hot pink bikini wants to huggy huggy kiss kiss!

1077 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:04:51am

re: #1007 WriterMom

If you want to get totally discouraged, read Caroline Glick on this stuff.

She really is devastating, isn't she?
I guess for now I'll just keep telling myself, as Netanyahu said, that this is a time for unity.

1078 Hard Right  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:05:39am

re: #1001 Caboose

Don't forget all them lovely Somali cabbies in Minneapolis, either.

If Franken-fraud steals this one (can we refer to this fraud as "Thefts and the Thieving Thieves That Steal Elections; A Account of The Modern Democratic Party."?) I'm starting my own one-man boycott of all things and businesses based in Minnesota as long as he is seated. See ya, Target! Bye-bye, Best Buy! No more, Nut Goodies (my kids will hate me for that one).

I like it. Let's get O'Reilly in on it.

1079 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:08:06am
1080 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:10:00am

re: #1063 buzzsawmonkey

History is made at night.

I've been told I look good in total darkness.

1081 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:10:17am
1082 debutaunt  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:20:41am

re: #1033 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Maybe they could bring in a bomb squad, set new bombs and put up a warning sign.

1083 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:29:09am

re: #1057 jester6


[SNIP]
I remember in the 1990s when Clinton won and all the people on the far right wing nutjobs were forming militias to protect against the coming UN invasion. Those people are getting restless again.

But this time there are a lot of non-whacko's buying guns and getting ready to hunker down because they do not know what to expect from this new crowd. Lot's of small business owners see stuff like the Minnesota, the Illinois appointment and the Obama's rhetoric as signs of serious instability. They are diverting money from business purchases and hording cash because they have this feeling they now live in a banana republic.

A socialist government, total distrust in the media and the self-fulfilling recession behavior by the folks in the read counties are going to make this a very interesting few years.

That bothers me, and I do not care if the sentiment offends some lizards around here.

1084 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:42:02am

re: #1058 Iron Fist

I'd still like to know what they are "progressing" toward. Because it looks like an Authoritarian Socialist State with de facto single Party rule. The Democrats, of course, will be that single Party.

That doesn't sound like forward progress to me.

Guys, demographically the GOP will be ok. California, NY, Iowa, Michigan, Mass, Pennsylvania and Ohio will be losing congressional seats and votes in the electorial college.
Guess which states are getting them?
North Carolina, Georgia, Texas, Nevada, Florida and Tennessee. There is no need to worry... there is going to be a shift in power from blue states to red states.
Conservatives wont be out of power for long... relax people our time is coming, just let us not waste our opportunities when the inevitable happens.
[Link: electionlawblog.org...]

1085 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:03:11am

re: #782 Walter L. Newton

How do you know that you "maxed" out your memory?

2GB is the highest amount the DIMM slots will accept, and it's already there.

1086 parkylarky  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 1:31:05pm

re: #1085 Alouette

you could "just" buy a new motherboard, processor and memory. (make sure you get a 64-bit cpu/mobo so that you can address/use a lot more memory!)


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