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1 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:58:10pm

GO LGF!

2 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:59:26pm

Congratulations to conservative lizards. Even Us liberal lizards will vote for you. Good luck!

3 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:59:55pm

Who has the link to the Lizard ticket?

4 DrCruel  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 6:59:57pm

It's a good blog because it's objective and honest, and does the job that reporters used to do in this country. Whether its politics are conservative or not is of no consequence.

5 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:12pm

Zombietime (Zomblog) and Pajama Wearing Fool are also nominees in other categories.

I can't figure out how to get my deceased kin their rightful votes.

6 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:18pm

Vote the Chicago Way ...!

/um ...how many votes do we need to put us over the top ...we got um right here in the trunk (oh, wait ...that's Minnesota)

7 Yanqui in Europe  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:18pm

Funny considering that LGF is not a conservative blog.

8 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:36pm

Remember lizards. Vote, and vote often. . . .

/about the only time we do vote often.

9 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:38pm

The people who think LGF impure are fools. Charles provides excellent reporting and great topics for discussion. If you can log in to more than one computer, remember the Daley Rule: Vote early and often! It's the Chicago Way!

10 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:00:48pm

Good Luck to Zomblog, Lawhawk, and JWF as well.

11 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:01:00pm

re: #5 David IV of Georgia

Lawhawk is nominated for something too. I don't have the list handy.

12 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:01:10pm

Carl In Jerusalem is also nominated.

13 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:01:19pm

re: #7 Yanqui in Europe

Funny considering that LGF is not a conservative blog.

Central is the new far right.

14 stevieray  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:01:57pm

Too bad there's not a self-subservient category -- we'd clean up!

15 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:03pm

LGF is a great blog because Charles works so hard to give us a great forum to have reasonable, rational discussions about important subjects.

Oh, and get snarky with moonbattery. That, too.

16 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:27pm

re: #12 Sharmuta

Carl In Jerusalem is also nominated.

Ah! Thank you for pointing that out! I knew I was forgetting someone.

17 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:28pm

I'm pure as New York snow...

18 Yanqui in Europe  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:36pm

13 David IV of Georgia


You took the words right out of my mouth.

19 Bleepless  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:43pm

Not pure enough? Pardon me while I swoon.

20 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:53pm

This is the best room in town...

21 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:56pm

I'm from Philadelphia, so count me in for 40-50 votes.

22 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:02:58pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

Lawhawk is nominated for something too. I don't have the list handy.

Best small blog

23 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:05pm

re: #12 Sharmuta

Carl In Jerusalem is also nominated.

[Link: israelmatzav.blogspot.com...]

That's Carl's blog.

24 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:05pm

Don't forget you can vote once every day ...for each category ...

25 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:08pm

Pure as Ivory soap!
Go LGF !

26 sngnsgt  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:10pm

Congrats Charles, I learn something new here every day.

27 Taqyia2Me  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:26pm

Speaking of votes, anybody figure out Nevada presidential voting trends from 2000 to 2004 to 2008?

28 looking closely  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:34pm

Apparently Ace in (currently) in the lead.

Quite a few good blogs in there, actually.

29 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:03:36pm

and LGF is nominated for Best Conservative Blog.

Huh ,,, This is a CONSERVATIVE BLOG!?!?!?

GGGAAAHHHHH ,,, what am I doing here !?!?! Where are my birkinstocks? Where's mt tye-dyed T-shirt !?!?!?!?Someone play some Grateful Dead music ,,,,, Rosie,,, Mickey Moore,,, HELP ! Come save me !

30 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:04:24pm

How were the decisions made regarding what kind of a blog it is?
Why isn't KOS listed in "best gossip blog"?

31 gclaghorn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:04:28pm

re: #24 JacksonTn

Don't forget you can vote once every day ...for each category ...

Vote early and vote often! :)

32 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:04:32pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

Who has the link to the Lizard ticket?

I note every Lizard I could spot here in a number of categories.

33 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:04:47pm

re: #30 jwb7605

How were the decisions made regarding what kind of a blog it is?
Why isn't KOS listed in "best gossip garbage blog"?

34 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:05:14pm
35 gclaghorn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:05:42pm

re: #32 JammieWearingFool

I note every Lizard I could spot here in a number of categories.

Last time I checked, you were in the lead in Best Large blog. Good luck!

36 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:01pm

re: #32 JammieWearingFool

Thanks.

37 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:02pm

re: #34 Iron Fist

Who the hell is "Plumb Bob"? I think I recognized everyone else.

Baghdad Bobs' working class cousin

38 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:25pm

re: #33 sattv4u2

How were the decisions made regarding what kind of a blog it is?
Why isn't KOS listed in "best gossip garbage blog"?

THAT TOO. Why isn't there a best garbage blog category?

39 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:33pm

Best Conservative blog ?

How about

best blog

period

40 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:39pm

Lizards definitely contributed heavily to my win last year, so feel free to contribute again this year.

41 LEGION  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:53pm

Dinged ya- only 133 votes so far- good for 3rd place- bah. Lets go Lizards, Vote Vote Vote!

42 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:06:56pm

re: #40 JammieWearingFool

already done ( for today )

43 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:07:26pm

re: #38 jwb7605

THAT TOO. Why isn't there a best garbage blog category?

Larry Johnson at noquarter has that covered ...

44 gclaghorn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:07:46pm

re: #39 Shug

Best Conservative blog ?

How about

best blog

period

I'm definitely nominating LGF for that next year. That, and "Best Design."

45 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:07:52pm

Well It's been confirmed.. The Texas Marching Band is playing Stairway to Heaven at halftime..It must be the end of times...
/ If the Stanford Marching Band does Barry Manilow I swear I'm going underground with extra food and water.

46 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:08:05pm
47 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:08:30pm

Obama speaks on Gaza.... but doesn't really....with alot of ah, ah , ah's....

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

48 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:08:40pm

re: #44 gclaghorn

LGF is very overlooked for blog design. I'm going to try to remember next year too.

49 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:09:02pm

I wonder if LGF2 is in the running....

50 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:09:40pm

I know LGF is getting one vote from Kuala Lumpur.

51 LEGION  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:09:43pm

re: #45 HoosierHoops

They came and they played without caring- and we booed them away- Ohhh Mandy. &#9834

52 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:09:43pm

re: #49 MandyManners

I wonder if LGF2 is in the running....


Yes, under the category for Best Blogger who blogs from a padded cell

53 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:09:55pm

re: #49 MandyManners

I wonder if LGF2 is in the running....

They have a stalker blog category?

54 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:10:25pm

re: #52 Shug

Yes, under the category for Best Blogger who blogs from a padded cell

It's therapy.

55 gclaghorn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:10:31pm

re: #49 MandyManners

I wonder if LGF2 is in the running....

Most Likely To Be Committed to a Mental Hospital?

56 ted  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:10:42pm

Hey..........What great company: VDH......Malkin.........Ace..........

Go LGF !

57 LEGION  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:11:04pm

re: #46 Iron Fist

As the Democrats say "Stuff the Vote!"

That's the only way THEY can win- but we will win on merit!
255 still in third.

58 irish rose  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:11:11pm

Congrats on the nod, Charles!

59 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:11:36pm

Pretty cool graphic for the "tally up" after you vote.

60 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:11:56pm

re: #47 notutopia

Obama speaks on Gaza.... but doesn't really....with alot of ah, ah , ah's....

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Obama on Gaza: "Present."

61 LEGION  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:11:58pm

small dead animals? LOL- great name- honorable mention.

62 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:12:11pm

re: #56 ted

Hey..........What great company: VDH......Malkin.........Ace..........

Go LGF !

Actually- it's a bit embarrassing to see pamela on the list with such incredible intellects as VDH and Bill Whittle.

63 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:13:02pm

I voted for Bill Whittle (Eject Eject Eject).

I'll vote early and often for LGF, though.

(If LGF wins Conservative Blog, is that like McCain getting the Republican nomination?)

64 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:13:04pm

re: #62 Sharmuta

Actually- it's a bit embarrassing to see pamela on the list with such incredible intellects as VDH and Bill Whittle.

Truer words have never been spoken. The woman is a mental midget in spandex

65 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:13:15pm

To whom do I write suggesting a new category entitled "Best Zionist Honco Blog" for 2009?

66 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:13:25pm

In the name of Honcos everywhere, we at least have to beat AtlasShrugs. GET IN THERE AND VOTE.

67 gclaghorn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:13:51pm

LGF is gaining on Atlas Shrugs. Go go go!

68 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:13:55pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

Obama on Gaza: "Present."

I don't even know if you can call that "present".
He obviously agrees that it is not in HIS best public opinion to comment now. I guess he is going to make us wait until his coronation....

69 ted  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:13:58pm

Do I vote for brains[Charles] or beauty[Malkiin] ?

70 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:14:06pm

re: #64 Shug

Thankfully, I had no liquid in my mouth when I read that.

71 revobob  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:14:07pm

re: #34 Iron Fist

Who the hell is "Plumb Bob"? I think I recognized everyone else.

A guy who always tells it straight up! (No relation...)

72 ted  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:14:28pm

re: #62 Sharmuta

Actually- it's a bit embarrassing to see pamela on the list with such incredible intellects as VDH and Bill Whittle.

Very true.

73 3 wood  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:14:31pm

Now to vote the Chicago Way, you have about 8 key precincts hold out reporting their vote until the downstate totals come in. Then they know how many votes they have to "find".

74 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:14:45pm

re: #63 Dar ul Harb

I voted for Bill Whittle (Eject Eject Eject).

I'll vote early and often for LGF, though.

(If LGF wins Conservative Blog, is that like McCain getting the Republican nomination?)

I love Whittle's stuff, but he just doesn't post frequently enough for me to think of his site as a "weblog". It's more like a collection of essays.

75 gclaghorn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:14:47pm

re: #64 Shug

Truer words have never been spoken. The woman is a mental midget in spandex

Screen, meet soda.

76 LEGION  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:14:50pm

re: #29 sattv4u2

and LGF is nominated for Best Conservative Blog.

Huh ,,, This is a CONSERVATIVE BLOG!?!?!?

GGGAAAHHHHH ,,, what am I doing here !?!?! Where are my birkinstocks? Where's mt tye-dyed T-shirt !?!?!?!?Someone play some Grateful Dead music ,,,,, Rosie,,, Mickey Moore,,, HELP ! Come save me !

Yes, yes it is--- saw a guy at the mall yesterday- walking around in Bermuda shorts and sandals- mind you there it is 21 F outside with snow on the ground. Lord save me from the liberals!

77 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:15:47pm

re: #47 notutopia

Obama speaks on Gaza.... but doesn't really....with alot of ah, ah , ah's....

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

ahh, err, I gathered that um when he assumes the ascendancy he is going to er, umm, offer a dissenting uh, viewpoint from, uhh, the one uh, being pursued err, currently. um.

err, crapum.

78 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:15:47pm
79 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:15:59pm

I voted, but just now I've found a bunch of my absentee ballots, and they're all marked "LGF". Well, one actually as "Mickey Mouse" scrawled across it, but let's count it for LGF.

/angling for Minnesota Election Board job

80 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:16:12pm

re: #61 LEGION

small dead animals? LOL- great name- honorable mention.

They won best Canadian blog several years running and were placed in another category to give some others up north a crack. While they have many categories, some folks wind up in places where they may not have much chance. The best conservative blog category has many great choices, but as a loyal Lizard LGF gets my nod, with a couple of others also recommended.

81 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:16:31pm

re: #66 Occasional Reader

I have 3,000,000,000,000 votes for LGF in the trunk of my car to be "discovered" should the need arise.

82 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:16:59pm

re: #78 Iron Fist

Oh, but they should do that. It could provide hours of enjoyment. OK, maybe not, but it would be funny.

I would have to think LGF has more stalker blogs than any other blog.

83 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:16pm

And Vote Often, every day! It's legal on this election. Vote Every 24 hours until January 12th.
Go LGF !

84 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:32pm

I would like to mention if you are considering voting for a liberal blog ...The Confluence is the only PUMA blog in the category ...it is still a liberal blog but was the only one that even took on Obama on anything ...

85 revobob  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:36pm

re: #81 ArmyWife

I have 3,000,000,000,000 votes for LGF in the trunk of my car to be "discovered" should the need arise.


Ummmm- since that exceeds the population of Earth, I gotta guess at least some of those are questionable?

86 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:17:39pm

re: #81 ArmyWife

I have 3,000,000,000,000 votes for LGF in the trunk of my car to be "discovered" should the need arise.

Most of those votes that were thrown out as improper were also really for LGF.

87 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:13pm
88 winston06  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:23pm

Voted earlier today for LGF

89 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:35pm

re: #52 Shug

Yes, under the category for Best Blogger who blogs from a padded cell

ROLFMAO!

90 bosforus  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:46pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

Congratulations to conservative lizards. Even Us WE liberal lizards will vote for you. Good luck!


Sorry, pet peeve. Had to do it.

91 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:49pm

re: #85 revobob

What? Do you not believe in democracy? What kind of Honco are you?

92 Sunlight  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:18:49pm

In the Middle East category, I saw [Link: www.israellycool.com...]

Can we only vote once?

93 LEGION  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:19:07pm

re: #80 JammieWearingFool

They won best Canadian blog several years running and were placed in another category to give some others up north a crack. While they have many categories, some folks wind up in places where they may not have much chance. The best conservative blog category has many great choices, but as a loyal Lizard LGF gets my nod, with a couple of others also recommended.

OMG- just because they won too much they are moved to another category? Screw giving others "chances"- that is the communist marxist liberal looney way- you should be King of the Hill until you are pulled off of it by others that EARNED it- OOOHHHHH Canada- you are more and more wacky everyyyyy day.

94 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:19:12pm

re: #77 jwb7605

ahh, err, I gathered that um when he assumes the ascendancy he is going to er, umm, offer a dissenting uh, viewpoint from, uhh, the one uh, being pursued err, currently. um.

err, crapum.

That's quality Harvard education for you!

95 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:19:12pm

re: #87 Iron Fist

Even the people who didn't vote for LGF intended to vote for us. You can't simply read a ballot. You have to grok the vote in its fullness...

heh...really

96 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:19:21pm

re: #53 Sharmuta

They have a stalker blog category?

Mebbe' there should be such a category with the winner being the most vile.

97 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:19:32pm

re: #83 notutopia

And Vote Often, every day! It's legal on this election. Vote Every 24 hours until January 12th.
Go LGF !

Would it be wrong of me to use some additional, multiple computers from work?

98 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:19:39pm
Which will undoubtedly infuriate some people who think we aren’t pure enough.

Well, of course LGF isn't "pure enough", that's why you get my vote....I'd also vote for LGF for Liberal Blog of the Year if I could.

99 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:03pm
100 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:07pm

re: #81 ArmyWife

I have 3,000,000,000,000 votes for LGF in the trunk of my car to be "discovered" should the need arise.

Can I ask te lizard to consider Bad Astronomy for best science web site?
Phil is a pure science guy that hosts a great Astronomy site...Check him out

101 David IV of Georgia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:12pm

re: #92 Sunlight

In the Middle East category, I saw [Link: www.israellycool.com...]

Can we only vote once?

You may vote once every 24 hours until January 12.

102 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:39pm

Why wasn't there a choice for Ron Paul?

103 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:41pm

re: #92 Sunlight

In the Middle East category, I saw [Link: www.israellycool.com...]

Can we only vote once?

See my #83.
Vote Daily!

104 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:52pm

re: #87 Iron Fist

Even the people who didn't vote for LGF intended to vote for us. You can't simply read a ballot. You have to grok the vote in its fullness...

Fist! You are so ripping off my son-in-law's web site: grokers.net/wp/

Pissed me off when I tried for that domain name, unaware of the situation.

105 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:20:52pm

re: #90 bosforus

Sorry, pet peeve. Had to do it.

Damn, even I'm not that pedantic. (I think he was being deliberately colloquial, and therefore gets a pass.)

106 Sunlight  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:21:30pm

re: #103 notutopia

See my #83.
Vote Daily!

That is a lot of voting!

107 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:21:34pm

re: #102 Mich-again

Why wasn't there a choice for Ron Paul?

I dunno ,,, but his lawn signs are still all over the Emory area of Atlanta

108 revobob  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:21:40pm

re: #91 ArmyWife

What? Do you not believe in democracy? What kind of Honco are you?


I thot ilitracy was all the qualifaction needeed ta be a honco- ya meen I gotta be innumerate to?

109 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:21:43pm

re: #101 David IV of Georgia

You may vote once every 24 hours until January 12.

doesnt that dilute the integrity of the vote...is this whole thing just a joke?

110 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:21:49pm

re: #97 Sharmuta

Would it be wrong of me to use some additional, multiple computers from work?

Only if they all have the same operator and IP address!

111 motorcycleboy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:22:12pm

I didn't know there was such a thing as an atheist 'conservative' blog. Maybe an atheist 'libertarian' blog, but certainly not conservative.

112 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:22:28pm
113 gclaghorn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:22:29pm

re: #107 sattv4u2

I dunno ,,, but his lawn signs are still all over the Emory area of Atlanta

There are still lawn signs up around here reading, "Ron Paul Saves" and "Paul is our salvation."

114 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:07pm

re: #99 Iron Fist

the Dead Can Vote

Is that like the Dead Can Dance?

115 njdhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:22pm

I voted.

Where my sticker?

116 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:33pm

re: #109 albusteve

doesnt that dilute the integrity of the vote...is this whole thing just a joke?

This is a popularity contest, not an election for a gov't office !

117 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:36pm

re: #102 Mich-again

Why wasn't there a choice for Ron Paul?

Check out the Most Liberal Blog section, There's bound to be a spawn in there somewhere. I've not even visited some of those sites...ever....viruses!

118 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:23:46pm

re: #111 motorcycleboy

I didn't know there was such a thing as an atheist 'conservative' blog. Maybe an atheist 'libertarian' blog, but certainly not conservative.

You serious? what does that have to do with anything ...

119 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:24:09pm

re: #105 Occasional Reader

My grammar and spelling stinks also as well sometimes too.

120 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:24:19pm

re: #115 njdhockeyfan

I voted.

Where my sticker purple thumb ?

121 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:24:20pm
122 revobob  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:24:33pm

re: #116 sattv4u2

This is a popularity contest, not an election for a gov't office !


and that is different how?

123 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:24:42pm

re: #93 LEGION

OMG- just because they won too much they are moved to another category? Screw giving others "chances"- that is the communist marxist liberal looney way- you should be King of the Hill until you are pulled off of it by others that EARNED it- OOOHHHHH Canada- you are more and more wacky everyyyyy day.

Don't blame Canada, it wasn't their choice. The guys running the show over there came up with the idea.

I'll probably have to find another category next year since I've already outgrown my current slot, but they based it on when nominations were opened. I'd probably get my ass kicked right now in the 501-1000 slot considering some of the heavyweights in there.

124 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:25:02pm

re: #122 revobob

and that is different how?

good point ,,, back to the drawing board

125 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:25:38pm

re: #113 gclaghorn

There are still lawn signs up around here reading, "Ron Paul Saves" and "Paul is our salvation."

FWIW, the single funniest thing I've ever read here at LGF was a brief comment on a posted link to the "Ron Paul supporters of India and Pakistan:"
"Sheesh, it's so bad we are even outsourcing our nutjobs." (or words to that effect.) I can't remember who posted this, so step forward and claim credit if it's yours.

126 bosforus  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:25:39pm

re: #105 Occasional Reader

Damn, even I'm not that pedantic. (I think he was being deliberately colloquial, and therefore gets a pass.)

I could be worse. I see a lot of sentences ending in prepositions around here!
/kidding - I don't consider myself a big grammatical stickler, but after learning a foreign language some things tend to stick out more than others
that's what she said

127 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:25:40pm

re: #111 motorcycleboy

Wasted one of your 5 comments for that?

128 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:03pm

re: #121 Iron Fist

I don't know that you'd classify LGF as an "atheist" blog.

Give Killgore and me a little more time. We're working on you. On all of you.

bwaaaahahahaha

129 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:14pm

re: #111 motorcycleboy

I didn't know there was such a thing as an atheist 'conservative' blog. Maybe an atheist 'libertarian' blog, but certainly not conservative.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

130 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:16pm

re: #111 motorcycleboy

Conservatives are all for freedom of Religion.

131 njdhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:34pm

Sources: Cubs, Bradley agree to 3-year, $30M deal

The Cubs, closing in on their No. 1 offensive target, have reached an agreement in principle with free agent Milton Bradley, according to major-league sources.

The deal, expected to be in the three-year, $30 million range, will be finalized after the two sides work through language issues and Bradley passes a physical, sources said.

Bradley, a switch-hitter, will fill the Cubs' need for a left-handed bat in the middle of their order. He spent last season with the Rangers, posting the highest on-base/slugging percentage in the American League.

This is going to be their year. I can feel it!

132 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:38pm

re: #124 sattv4u2

good point ,,, back to the drawing board

You working the Texas game tonight?

133 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:51pm

re: #121 Iron Fist

I don't know that you'd classify LGF as an "atheist" blog. There are a lot of believers from a fairly wide range of faiths here. Probably not any Mohammedans, but I guess it is possible...

Elegant understatement, from what I've seen.

134 NOBAMADADA  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:26:56pm

LGF FTW!

135 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:27:01pm

re: #128 Occasional Reader

Behead those who insult the Turtle Stack!

136 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:27:06pm

re: #122 revobob

and that is different how?

It's a silly little internet poll. I'd love to see either Ace or Charles win, but I'm not going to go all Democrat and stuff the ballot box.

137 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:27:20pm
138 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:27:43pm

re: #126 bosforus

I see a lot of sentences ending in prepositions around here!

You're kidding! Show me where they're at.

139 Tarkus289  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:27:54pm

OT

In case you have not heard, there has been a friendly fire incident in gaza,
an Israeli tank fired on Israeli soldiers, three dead and twenty wounded.
Sorry if this was posted already, and I'm sorry this happened.

This was what they were talking about on Fox this afternoon.

140 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:04pm

re: #116 sattv4u2

This is a popularity contest, not an election for a gov't office !

so it's not about legitimacy or content or accountability?...I get it now

141 revobob  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:06pm

re: #105 Occasional Reader

Damn, even I'm not that pedantic. (I think he was being deliberately colloquial, and therefore gets a pass.)


What does a guy liking kids have ta do with how he rites and spells?

142 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:21pm

re: #121 Iron Fist

I don't know that you'd classify LGF as an "atheist" blog.

Hey, I'm Unitarian. That's pretty damn close.

/

143 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:27pm

re: #114 Occasional Reader

Is that like the Dead Can Dance?

Only if they have no hats.

144 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:29pm

Apropos of nothing, and totally OT

Pubix Grocery Stores makes THE best fried chicken


(We now return you to our regularly scheduled blogging)

145 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:57pm

re: #138 Occasional Reader

Show me where they're at.


Correction: Show me where they're at, dude.
/Problem solved.

146 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:59pm

re: #97 Sharmuta

Would it be wrong of me to use some additional, multiple computers from work?

It would be wrong not to

147 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:28:59pm

re: #130 Mich-again

Conservatives are all for freedom of Religion.

As Sharmuta pointed out on the previous thread, so are Classical Liberals.
{ Sharmuta! }

148 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:29:01pm

re: #131 njdhockeyfan

Sources: Cubs, Bradley agree to 3-year, $30M deal

This is going to be their year. I can feel it!

That is good news! Maybe now the Cubs can finally win a playoff series.

149 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:29:10pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

My grammar and spelling stinks also as well sometimes too.

Pure genius!

150 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:29:10pm

re: #111 motorcycleboy

I didn't know there was such a thing as an atheist 'conservative' blog. Maybe an atheist 'libertarian' blog, but certainly not conservative.

Last time I looked, there was no mention of a religious requirement to being conservative.

151 revobob  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:29:23pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Behead those who insult the Turtle Stack!


And refuse obeisance to the Holy Post on which it rests!

152 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:29:37pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

You working the Texas game tonight?

yup ,, we're sending it to cruise ships in the Mediterranean

153 NOBAMADADA  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:29:45pm

re: #144 sattv4u2

Apropos of nothing, and totally OT

Pubix Grocery Stores makes THE best fried chicken

(We now return you to our regularly scheduled blogging)

Publix* :-)

154 Miles Smit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:00pm

You're in great company!

155 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:18pm

re: #142 Dar ul Harb

Hey, I'm Unitarian. That's pretty damn close.

/

Reminds me of a joke (no doubt old to you but posted for the benefit of others):

Q. What does the Ku-Klux-Klan do when a Unitarian moves into town?
A. They burn a question mark on his lawn.

156 n in wi  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:40pm

re: #131 njdhockeyfan

Sources: Cubs, Bradley agree to 3-year, $30M deal


This is going to be their year. I can feel it!

Melt-down Milton and Zumbroda on the same team. Sweet Lou will have his hands full in the locker room/nursery

157 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:45pm

re: #155 Shiplord Kirel

Reminds me of a joke (no doubt old to you but posted for the benefit of others):

Q. What does the Ku-Klux-Klan do when a Unitarian moves into town?
A. They burn a question mark on his lawn.

good one

158 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:47pm

Merkel supports Israel,

A day after speaking to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and urging a cease-fire in Gaza only when Israel's security could be guaranteed, German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Monday spoke to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

Her spokesman, Ulrich Wilhelm, reiterated the position of Merkel's administration following her conversation with Abbas: A sustained cease-fire is only possible when Israel's security can be ensured.

Merkel has been the only European head of state who has pinned the onus of responsibility for the outbreak of violence entirely on Hamas.

She stressed in her talk with Olmert that an effective cease-fire must put an end to weapons smuggling into Gaza.

159 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:30:53pm

re: #140 albusteve

so it's not about legitimacy or content or accountability?...I get it now

wouldn't you vote for the one you thought was the most legitimate, had the best content and was accountable? Or isn't that how you decide when you vote?

160 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:31:06pm
161 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:31:10pm

re: #153 NOBAMADADA

Publix* :-)

them too!

162 NOBAMADADA  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:31:19pm

re: #159 sattv4u2

x2

163 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:31:34pm

re: #142 Dar ul Harb

Hey, I'm Unitarian. That's pretty damn close.

/

Unitarians... aren't those the ones who believe that Moses came down from the mountain with the Ten Suggestions?

164 freetoken  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:31:37pm

re: #150 Sharmuta

Last time I looked, there was no mention of a religious requirement to being conservative.

What's strange is that I don't really consider LGF to be a "conservative" blog...

165 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:31:54pm

re: #49 MandyManners

I wonder if LGF2-0 is in the running....away and hiding, quivering in fear, and covered in poop, and their own drool.

/Fixed it for you!

166 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:32:12pm

re: #156 n in wi

Melt-down Milton and Zumbroda on the same team. Sweet Lou will have his hands full in the locker room/nursery

Smack!

167 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:32:16pm

re: #93 LEGION

Well there are three other choices. Five Feet of Fury (she's really nice), Ezra Levant, and Canadian Sentinel.

/I had a real hard choice to pick.

168 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:32:37pm

re: #150 Sharmuta

Last time I looked, there was no mention of a religious requirement to being conservative.

AMEN, Sharmuta!
Aw shucks, I guess that means I let the cat out of the bag that I'm NOT a conservative atheist!

169 NOBAMADADA  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:03pm

re: #164 freetoken

What's strange is that I don't really consider LGF to be a "conservative" blog...

Most LGF members feel the same way..

170 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:06pm

re: #160 Iron Fist

Close, but true atheists are more certain about their beliefs than Unitarians are. At least the Unitarians I've met.

That reminds me of a joke.

Unitarians believe in one God ...at the most.

171 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:15pm

It has to be LGFs. It's the one I frequent most and get most use from. A great tool. Actually, it's much more than a "blog".


Hey, Charles, about the 2008 Fiskie, if Cox and Forkum for some reason can't do it, I'll do it for you! I do a great stick figure man!

172 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:15pm

I've been going through the photos again on Getty Images, and if you believed what you saw, you'd think that Israel targeted only children. There's a stunning lack of adults being captured on film being brought to the hospitals or receiving medical care at all.

Can't imagine why that's the case. /

173 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:35pm

I clicked on the "best blog design", thinking LGF might be listed because of the way this is laid out and visually presented (not to mention the enhancements).

That should read "best design blog", IMO.

174 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:35pm

re: #168 notutopia

AMEN, Sharmuta!
Aw shucks, I guess that means I let the cat out of the bag that I'm NOT a conservative atheist!

that you did ,, but now we wonder if your cat is ?

175 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:38pm
176 Vaak  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:33:59pm

Not purely conservative, but, without doubt, the best blog on that list, you got my vote.

177 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:00pm

Senator Al Franken....That's a pill more bitter to swallow than President Barack Obama.

178 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:01pm

re: #139 Tarkus289

Horrible stuff there. Prayers for those involved and their families and all their countrymen.

179 njdhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:04pm

Mayor Villaraigosa throws support behind Israel

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa threw his support behind Israel this afternoon, backing the country in its latest strikes against Hamas and its invasion of the Gaza Strip.

The announcement, made during a news conference, pleased Jewish leaders in Los Angeles, but sparked anger among local Muslim groups.

"I've been to Sderot and seen the wreckage caused by a constant barrage of rocket attacks," Villaraigosa said of the city in southern Israel. "I've met parents afraid to let their kids play in the streets and students unable to go to school each day. I've walked along empty roads, visited vacant buildings and witnessed the sheer destruction of a town decimated by eight years of missile strikes."

The mayor wasn't alone in his backing. He was joined by City Council members Wendy Greuel, Janice Hahn, Jack Weiss and Dennis Zine. Jacob Dayan, Israel's consulate general to the southwestern United States, thanked the mayor and council members for their support at the news conference at the Jewish Federation's Goldsmith Center, on Wilshire Boulevard.

"At a time like this, in a fight like this, where the odds and the deck are stacked against Israel, thank God Los Angeles and thank God Mayor Villaraigosa are there to stand with Israel," said Councilman Weiss, who represents the city's 5th District.

180 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:15pm

re: #169 NOBAMADADA

Most LGF members feel the same way..

Especially the conservative ones.
;-)

181 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:27pm

re: #76 LEGION

Hey, I used to resemble that remark. In my college days, I'd be dressed for summer in the dead of winter - shorts and sweatshirt and it's 20 below out. Albany NY can do that for ya!

182 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:34:36pm

Kilgore, quick aside of a personal nature.

I have some questions about how to find a guitar teacher for The Kid. Does your e-addy begin with the letters "pud"?

183 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:35:14pm

re: #179 njdhockeyfan

Well, that's nice, but does it really help any more than condemnation from Berkeley city council hurts?

184 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:35:21pm

re: #175 Iron Fist

The only time you hear the name "Jesus Christ" in a Unitarian Church is when the custodian trips on the stairs.

Ahem?!

185 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:35:27pm

re: #164 freetoken

What's strange is that I don't really consider LGF to be a "conservative" blog...

Yes, although I voted it the best, I agree with you. It's partially a blog, but it's more of a news source, with a great little interactive community supplying the news along with light hearted banter.

186 revobob  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:35:42pm

re: #181 lawhawk

Hey, I used to resemble that remark. In my college days, I'd be dressed for summer in the dead of winter - shorts and sweatshirt and it's 20 below out. Albany NY can do that for ya!


St. Paul would break you of it REAL quick!

187 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:35:53pm
188 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:06pm

re: #174 sattv4u2

that you did ,, but now we wonder if your cat is ?

1 out the bag, 2 still in the bag....1 is hibernating for the winter and doesn't count till spring. I think she's still breathing...I better go check.

189 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:14pm
190 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:18pm

re: #175 Iron Fist

Oh, well, we might as well get them all out there...

Q: What do you get when you cross an Unitarian with a Jehovah's Witness?
A: Someone who rings your doorbell for no apparent reason.

191 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:18pm

re: #172 lawhawk

I've been going through the photos again on Getty Images, and if you believed what you saw, you'd think that Israel targeted only children. There's a stunning lack of adults being captured on film being brought to the hospitals or receiving medical care at all.

Can't imagine why that's the case. /

What struck me was the amazing amount of young men standing around mugging for the camera (non-injured civilians) I would think if this country were "invaded by occupiers" as the palis say is happening, wouldn't young USA men be RUNNING to help the armed forces?

192 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:21pm

re: #165 NY Nana

/Fixed it for you!


I wonder if LGF2-0 is in the running....away and hiding, quivering in fear, and covered in poop, and their own drool.

/Fixed it for you!

You forgot the stuff about SNOT.

193 NOBAMADADA  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:26pm

re: #181 lawhawk

Hey, I used to resemble that remark. In my college days, I'd be dressed for summer in the dead of winter - shorts and sweatshirt and it's 20 below out. Albany NY can do that for ya!

Ahh Albany..Best 2 years of my life..cough cough..

194 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:33pm

re: #182 MandyManners

Kilgore, quick aside of a personal nature.

I have some questions about how to find a guitar teacher for The Kid. Does your e-addy begin with the letters "pud"?

I know that this was an earnest request, but this really cracked me up. Sometimes you just can't help it.

195 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:38pm

re: #164 freetoken

What's strange is that I don't really consider LGF to be a "conservative" blog...

I think it depends on what one means by "conservative", obviously. If we're talking Goldwater conservatism, then LGF would have a place, but if by "conservative" one means "fundamentalist Christian", then no- this is not a conservative blog. I would also tell anyone who thinks "conservative" means "fundamentalist Christian" that they're flat out wrong.

196 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:43pm

re: #177 Ringo the Gringo

Senator Al Franken....That's a pill more bitter to swallow than President Barack Obama.

stop ,, I'm eating!

197 albusteve  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:36:59pm

re: #159 sattv4u2

wouldn't you vote for the one you thought was the most legitimate, had the best content and was accountable? Or isn't that how you decide when you vote?

you put my own words back in my mouth...clever...I dont understand the multiple vote angle...whats the benefit in that?...it will only skew the intended result would it not?

198 n in wi  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:37:09pm

re: #172 lawhawk

I've been going through the photos again on Getty Images, and if you believed what you saw, you'd think that Israel targeted only children. There's a stunning lack of adults being captured on film being brought to the hospitals or receiving medical care at all.

Can't imagine why that's the case. /


Who kills more Islamic children, Israel,or Islamo fascist?
/Rhetorical,I know the answer.

199 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:37:10pm
200 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:37:34pm

Is this the line for the zionist honco lecture?

201 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:37:47pm

re: #199 Iron Fist

Is joke. :-)

Which is fine, except that it's mine!

202 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:00pm

re: #195 Sharmuta

I think it depends on what one means by "conservative", obviously. If we're talking Goldwater conservatism, then LGF would have a place, but if by "conservative" one means "fundamentalist Christian", then no- this is not a conservative blog. I would also tell anyone who thinks "conservative" means "fundamentalist Christian" that they're flat out wrong.

You're on a roll tonight.

203 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:04pm

Obama's grandparents were Unitarian, by the way.

204 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:21pm

re: #192 MandyManners

I wonder if LGF2-0 is in the running....away and hiding, quivering in fear, and covered in poop, and their own drool.

/Fixed it for you!

You forgot the stuff about SNOT.

Ouch! That's snot funny!

/My bad!

205 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:33pm

Yeah, yeah, Unitarian jokes are so tedious.

206 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:39pm

re: #189 Iron Fist

Because whatever his faults, Obama didn't steal his election. Franken, OTOH, practically stuck a gun to the teller's face and demanded the money seat.

Damned straight. Bought and paid for, fair and square.

/may you rot, George Soros

207 NOBAMADADA  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:42pm

re: #200 OldLineTexan

Is this the line for the zionist honco lecture?

Yep get your a** to the back! Sorry i grew up in NYC.

208 Gearhead  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:48pm

re: #177 Ringo the Gringo

Senator Al Franken....That's a pill more bitter to swallow than President Barack Obama.

Senator Franken...Senator Al Franken...Senator Al Franken (D- MN). Bleah.
Harry Reid is relieved that he will no longer be the dumbest guy in the chamber.

209 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:38:57pm

re: #202 jwb7605

Thanks.

210 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:39:23pm

re: #203 Kenneth

Obama's grandparents were Unitarian, by the way.

Which set? Paternal? Maternal?

211 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:39:40pm

Next year, I hope LGF is up for best zionist honcos blog.

212 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:39:44pm

re: #197 albusteve

you put my own words back in my mouth...clever...I dont understand the multiple vote angle...whats the benefit in that?...it will only skew the intended result would it not?

Not really clever. If you're going to issue a standard it's good to see if you abide by it.
As far as multiple votes, as long as everyone has the same opportunity to vote multiple times. It's not like I want to vote for LGF 17 times, but you're limited to vote for a "competitor" only once!

213 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:10pm
214 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:11pm

re: #203 Kenneth

And the grandmother was thrown under the bus.

/How nice that The One deigned to visit Hawaii so many weeks after she died.

215 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:12pm

re: #182 MandyManners

Kilgore, quick aside of a personal nature.

I have some questions about how to find a guitar teacher for The Kid. Does your e-addy begin with the letters "pud"?

Pud, heh, Yes. It has been a long time since I've been in the guitar market but I might have some advice that could be useful.

216 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:18pm

re: #210 MandyManners

Maternal of course, his paternal grandparents, back in Kenya, were Muslim.

217 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:28pm

re: #204 NY Nana

Ouch! That's snot funny!

/My bad!

Oh, the joys of snot jokes!

218 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:40pm

re: #203 Kenneth

Obama's grandparents were Unitarian, by the way.

Presumably the white ones.

The other side of the family was probably animist or that slave religion, Islam.

219 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:50pm
220 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:50pm

re: #207 NOBAMADADA

Yep get your a** to the back! Sorry i grew up in NYC.

Wait a minute...lemme get out my NYC phrase boof from Fodor...

ahhh...here is the counter greeting, I think...

F&CK YOUSE!

////

221 Outrider  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:40:59pm

re: #194 Bloodnok

I know that this was an earnest request, but this really cracked me up. Sometimes you just can't help it.

whew. I'm not the only one cracking up laughing after reading the comment then? ;-)>

222 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:05pm

re: #187 Shug

Pink iguanas unseen by Darwin offer evolution clue

Let's please make this story into a thread. I want to watch the creationists tie themselves into knots trying to 'explain' away this one. Moonbats and Morlocks are good eating, but I'm hungry for some roast creationist troll tonight!

223 revobob  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:24pm

re: #217 MandyManners

Oh, the joys of snot jokes!


Careful- we could be overrun with them!

224 Gearhead  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:30pm

re: #217 MandyManners

Oh, the joys of snot jokes!

Don't kiss your honey
If your nose is runny.
You may think it's funny,
But it's...

225 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:35pm

re: #210 MandyManners

Maternal..paternal are cult of islam.

226 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:42pm

re: #216 Kenneth

Maternal of course, his paternal grandparents, back in Kenya, were Muslim.

Just wanting some sort of record.

227 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:41:49pm
228 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:42:06pm

re: #217 MandyManners

Oh, the joys of snot jokes!

Got any good ones?

229 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:42:13pm

Atlas leading LGF by 100. :facepalm:

230 revobob  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:42:22pm

re: #221 Outrider

whew. I'm not the only one cracking up laughing after reading the comment then? ;-)>


Definitely not- and if I were KT, I'm not sure I'd admit even if it's true!

231 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:42:24pm

re: #201 Dianna

Which is fine, except that it's mine!

Yup, that joke is registered to Dianna on the domain site "WhoOwnsWhatJoke.Com" It's definitely hers.

232 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:42:26pm

re: #197 albusteve

you put my own words back in my mouth...clever...I dont understand the multiple vote angle...whats the benefit in that?...it will only skew the intended result would it not?

From another perspective, it will allow me to give LGF 3 votes, and VDH one vote. I like both, but LGF is more better, carefully not dangling participles.

At the end of the voting period, that accumulation -- averaged -- might yield an accurate opinion from the readers in aggregate.

233 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:42:55pm

re: #220 OldLineTexan

Wait a minute...lemme get out my NYC phrase boof from Fodor...

ahhh...here is the counter greeting, I think...

F&CK YOUSE!

////

According to the pace salsa commercial ,
it's Getta rope!

234 Outrider  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:43:17pm

re: #212 sattv4u2

Not really clever. If you're going to issue a standard it's good to see if you abide by it.
As far as multiple votes, as long as everyone has the same opportunity to vote multiple times. It's not like I want to vote for LGF 17 times, but you're limited to vote for a "competitor" only once!

it also has the benefit of bringing many more visitors to that particular site... every day.

235 gclaghorn  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:43:23pm

re: #229 Slumbering Behemoth

Atlas leading LGF by 100. :facepalm:

We're gaining on her, though!

236 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:43:26pm
237 njdhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:43:28pm

re: #187 Shug

Pink iguanas unseen by Darwin offer evolution clue

I gotta get one for my 6 year old daughter. Pink is her favorite color and she loves lizards.

238 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:43:42pm

re: #228 NY Nana

How do you make a kleenex dance?

Put a little boogie in it!

239 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:44:05pm

re: #215 Killgore Trout

Pud, heh, Yes. It has been a long time since I've been in the guitar market but I might have some advice that could be useful.

Wouldn't "pud" be more of an e-mail for a drum-maker?

Or is this the mythical pud bird?

240 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:44:16pm

re: #231 Archimedes

Yup, that joke is registered to Dianna on the domain site "WhoOwnsWhatJoke.Com" It's definitely hers.

Oh, honestly. I said that ages ago. I was rather proud of it.

241 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:44:45pm
242 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:44:59pm

re: #229 Slumbering Behemoth

Atlas leading LGF by 100. :facepalm:

Embarrassing she's even on the list.

243 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:00pm
244 NOBAMADADA  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:06pm

Vote Vote Vote

245 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:15pm

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

"We think the population is very small and there is a great risk of extinction," Gentile said.

If their extinction is imminent because of natural selection, why interrupt nature. F* em.

246 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:28pm

re: #236 Iron Fist

Best Cannibal Blog. Yum!

Best Gourmett Cannibal Blog. Yum!

247 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:39pm

Later.

248 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:52pm

re: #240 Dianna

Oh, honestly. I said that ages ago. I was rather proud of it.

Good one!

249 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:45:54pm

re: #243 Iron Fist

I guess I owe her some royalties out of my profit. Let's see, nothing out of, well, nothing...I'm coming up with nothing.

Not profit - it's just one of the few really clever things I've typed off the top of my head. I'm just a smidge possessive.

250 Outrider  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:46:10pm

re: #239 OldLineTexan

Wouldn't "pud" be more of an e-mail for a drum-maker?

Or is this the mythical pud bird?

it refers to the always elusive pud chord that few outside of Jimi could ever find. ;-)>

251 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:46:12pm

If Al Franken is eligible for the vote, it will be rigged. Now we are getting a limousine liberal in the senate. One that has a cocaine problem now, (oh, i don't use it now. Yeah, right) Cheats his employees on there medical benefits, has been proven to cheat on his corporate income taxes, yet alone the fraudulent votes he has now.
What are the assholes going to come up with next? Dig up the body of Lenin and Stalin and run them in the next election?

252 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:46:14pm

re: #229 Slumbering Behemoth

She must be getting the Vlaams Belang vote.

253 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:46:32pm

re: #62 Sharmuta

Actually- it's a bit embarrassing to see pamela on the list with such incredible intellects as VDH and Bill Whittle.

It is a shame to see how few votes Mr. Whittle has received so far. Sad, really. I wish I could vote twice.

254 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:47:14pm

re: #215 Killgore Trout

Pud, heh, Yes. It has been a long time since I've been in the guitar market but I might have some advice that could be useful.

Maybe I'm misremembering but, I believe I recall you offering advice about how to proceed with The Kid's guitar a few months ago.

255 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:47:15pm

re: #227 Iron Fist

Except for the grandparents that were Mohammedan. You notice that Obama never spoke of them. That was passing strange as such a huge part of his campaign was "Vote for me because I'm black!" You'd have thought that he would made some reference to his African family, but if he did, it was so low key as to be virtually unnoticable.

He couldn't talk about them. No matter what he really believes about God, being connected to Islam is a net minus when seeking national office in the USA.

256 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:47:21pm

re: #252 NY Nana

She must be getting the Vlaams Belang vote.

and the Troofers...

257 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:47:32pm

re: #253 Slumbering Behemoth

It is a shame to see how few votes Mr. Whittle has received so far. Sad, really. I wish I could vote twice.

I agree- Bill deserves better. Once LGF is ahead of the fascist sympathizer, I will send a couple votes Bill's way.

258 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:47:43pm

re: #256 notutopia

and the Troofers...

Nirthers.

259 Outrider  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:47:45pm

re: #251 hous bin pharteen

If Al Franken is eligible for the vote, it will be rigged. Now we are getting a limousine liberal in the senate. One that has a cocaine problem now, (oh, i don't use it now. Yeah, right) Cheats his employees on there medical benefits, has been proven to cheat on his corporate income taxes, yet alone the fraudulent votes he has now.
What are the assholes going to come up with next? Dig up the body of Lenin and Stalin and run them in the next election?

can they meet the residency requirements in Chicago before the next election?

260 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:47:52pm

re: #253 Slumbering Behemoth

It is a shame to see how few votes Mr. Whittle has received so far. Sad, really. I wish I could vote twice.

You can vote twice. Just not in the same day.

261 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:14pm

Hook em horns

262 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:21pm

re: #251 hous bin pharteen

What are the assholes going to come up with next? Dig up the body of Lenin and Stalin and run them in the next election?

Why bother digging them up? The moonbats would vote for them regardless!

263 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:27pm

re: #252 NY Nana

She must be getting the Vlaams Belang vote.

We could tie the Phlegmish issue to the snot jokes...

264 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:32pm

re: #164 freetoken


No. You are like many people here. You can actually THINK.

265 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:37pm

The Big Ten is a fraud

266 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:40pm
267 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:49pm

re: #258 Sharmuta

Nirthers.

Them too...

268 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:48:56pm

re: #239 OldLineTexan

Puddin'head Wilson. It a Mark Twain thing.

269 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:49:14pm

re: #238 ArmyWife

How do you make a kleenex dance?

Put a little boogie in it!

AAAAAARGHH! ;)

Good one!

270 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:49:31pm

You gotta get back, honco cat

271 n in wi  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:49:35pm

re: #266 Iron Fist

He doesn't use cocaine, it's just he likes the way it smells. Besides, it's like his body developed some kind of massive drug deficiency. He's just trying to bring his drug levels back into what's normal for him.

For the children!

And to protect the environment.

272 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:49:36pm

re: #265 Shug

The Big Ten is a fraud

whats a fraud is playing these games 4-5 WEEKS after each team last played a game!

273 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:13pm

re: #245 Mich-again

"We think the population is very small and there is a great risk of extinction," Gentile said.

If their extinction is imminent because of natural selection, why interrupt nature. F* em.

Down-ding. They are a unique species that we might learn a great deal by studying, not to mention that I am never in favor of allowing species to go extinct when we can save them.

274 sngnsgt  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:18pm

re: #238 ArmyWife

LOL! Please don't mind if I steal that one.

275 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:24pm

re: #268 Killgore Trout

Puddin'head Wilson. It a Mark Twain thing.

Ha, OK, that's better.

276 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:50:59pm

re: #265 Shug

The Big Ten is a fraud

Yeah- it's really 11.

277 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:51:11pm

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

Down-ding. They are a unique species that we might learn a great deal by studying, not to mention that I am never in favor of allowing species to go extinct when we can save them.

I am in favor of allowing Hamas to become extinct

278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:51:23pm

Glad to be able to offer a national "ding" for Charles!

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:52:04pm

Gettin' ugly fast for OSU.

Again.

280 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:52:15pm

re: #274 sngnsgt

Not at all. I'll mark it as free use on "WhoOwnsWhatJoke.com"

281 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:52:20pm

re: #276 Sharmuta

Yeah- it's really 11.

They are the Big Spinal Tap conference

282 n in wi  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:52:32pm

re: #272 sattv4u2

whats a fraud is playing these games 4-5 WEEKS after each team last played a game!

I think Obama's in favor of a play off system.
He won't say it officially as the re is only one college football commissioner at a time.

283 DisturbedEma  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:52:40pm

re: #278 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Glad to be able to offer a national "ding" for Charles!


My ding a ling for Charles. . .wait. . .:)

284 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:53:05pm

re: #282 n in wi

I think Obama's in favor of a play off system.
He won't say it officially as the re is only one college football commissioner at a time.


we know that ! !

285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:53:13pm

re: #260 Dar ul Harb

You can vote twice. Just not in the same day.

But, we, wouldn't do that.

/Ron Paul

286 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:53:27pm

re: #259 Outrider

Sure. That seams to not apply if you are a Democrats. Hillary, and Kennedy from New York? Need I go one?

287 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:53:38pm

re: #252 NY Nana

Must be. But as The Mighty Sharm has said, it is embarrassing that it's even on the list, and more embarrassing still that it's coming in #2 out of 14.

288 sngnsgt  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:54:06pm

Blair to get US Medal of Freedom

Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair will receive the highest civilian award in the US - the Presidential Medal of Freedom - next week.

news.bbc.co.uk

289 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:54:07pm
290 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:54:08pm
291 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:18pm

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gettin' ugly fast for OSU.

Again.

Maybe they should bring the band back out on the field!

292 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:19pm

re: #257 Sharmuta

I agree- Bill deserves better. Once LGF is ahead of the fascist sympathizer, I will send a couple votes Bill's way.

Wait, what?

re: #260 Dar ul Harb

You can vote twice. Just not in the same day.

Ah, I see.

293 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:20pm

re: #290 jwb7605

Please don't link that site.

294 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:21pm

re: #252 NY Nana

She must be getting the Vlaams Belang vote.

Oh, you know it. Maybe the StormFront vote, too.

295 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:42pm
296 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:55:56pm

re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth

You can vote every 24 hours, and I'm going to put some work computers behind this effort.

297 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:04pm
298 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:28pm

re: #254 MandyManners

he's still quite young. Buy him something cheap, maybe $100-$200. I'd recommend a nylon string classical guitar, it's easier on the fingers. Sign him up for some lessons (group or private), he'll learn how to tune it and a few chords but don't make him treat it like a priceless gem. He's going to beat on it with Lincoln Logs and put cheerios inside. That's good because it's a fun toy, let him play and experiment. If he wants to continue you can progress to a steel string in a few years then on to an electric. He'll learn to respect them in time but start out cheap and let him play.

299 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:39pm

re: #293 Sharmuta

Please don't link that site.

Sorry, I guess. It just doesn't belong in the category. In any sense.

300 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:56:52pm

re: #290 jwb7605

typing that web address is a waste of ATP

301 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:57:30pm
302 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:57:32pm
303 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:57:58pm

re: #189 Iron Fist

Because whatever his faults, Obama didn't steal his election.

Hillary PUMAs would beg to differ with you on that, starting back at the Primaries.

304 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:57:59pm

re: #290 jwb7605

WTF?

You're old-enough to know better.

305 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:58:00pm

Wake board surfing while playing the trombone.

306 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:58:22pm

re: #266 Iron Fist

My mistake. I won't mention it again. If I see him in person sniffing a line, I will assume it's sugar for his coffee he spills.

307 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:58:35pm

re: #290 jwb7605

Has anybody else noticed the shilling going on at Atlas Shrugs to vote for them?

Compare that to the rest of the competition on the "Best Conservative Blog" category, including LGF.


Truth is in the "brain" of the beholder.

Vote For Me........Because I bring you the unfettered truth. Every day. I serve no one except the truth mastuh......

308 jorline  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:58:46pm

Just voted for LGF.

It's feels great casting a vote for a winner verses a wiener...unlike 11/04/08.

309 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:58:51pm

re: #297 taxfreekiller

Its just not fair, all that ice, how's a fraud like Al Gore going to deal with facts like ice covering the north and south poles, its just not fair.

boo, hoo, hoo

You still don't get it. It just proves his Carbon Credit program works. The science is settled!

/just in case ...

310 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:59:22pm
311 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 7:59:59pm

re: #304 MandyManners

WTF?

You're old-enough to know better.


Whoever came up with the list isn't.

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:00:16pm

I am glad to vote for LGF... However, I don't look anywhere else unless linked. Then I come back here to play with you guys.

313 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:00:32pm

re: #298 Killgore Trout

He's going to beat on it with Lincoln Logs and put cheerios inside. That's good because it's a fun toy, let him play and experiment.

Great parenting advice, in any situation.

314 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:00:50pm

re: #311 jwb7605

Whoever came up with the list isn't.

Why? Aren't all conservatives heartless racist zionist honco bastards?

315 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:06pm

re: #287 Slumbering Behemoth

Sharm is right...and hopefully people will wake up.

Atlas is already so full of herself that she might explode.

Everything is I, I, I and me, me, me.

In case some of the newer lizards do not know what she did to Charles, her 'blog Daddy', here are the comments.

As far as I know, she never had the decency to apologize to Charles.

316 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:18pm
317 jorline  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:19pm

re: #308 jorline

Just voted for LGF.

It's feels great casting a vote for a winner verses a wiener...unlike 11/04/08.

PIMF...It

318 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:22pm

re: #271 n in wi

There you go THINKING again! KNOCK IT OFF!

319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:44pm

Boy, those Buckeyes can kick some field goals, can't they?

320 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:01:46pm

re: #298 Killgore Trout

That is such good advice. I learned on a cheap nylon string that I absolutely destroyed. But it hooked me.

321 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:02:21pm

re: #277 Shug

But we might learn a great deal by studying them.

322 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:02:36pm

re: #288 sngnsgt

I am going to puke.

323 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:02:44pm

Zionist honco!

Saracen pig!

324 bosforus  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:02:58pm

[Link: www.cnn.com...]
Twitter accounts of Obama, Britney Spears hacked

First Fox News Twitter followers read a false message about Bill O'Reilly's sexuality Monday morning after hackers launched several attacks.

Excuse my immaturity but I simply must laugh at this description just thinking of what might have actually been posted.

325 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:03:01pm

re: #321 Mich-again

But we might learn a great deal by studying them.

we can study them like we studied the aliens from Roswell

326 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:03:46pm

re: #315 NY Nana

She used to drop in here and leave one sentence spread out over 10 posts one word at a time.

Hey everyone. LOOK AT ME!

327 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:03:53pm

re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am glad to vote for LGF... However, I don't look anywhere else unless linked. Then I come back here to play with you guys.

Which is where I screwed up.
I pasted the link from the list of contenders.
I actually test-drove a couple of places I don't remember going to.

The problem is that the world will do the same thing.

328 njdhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:04:08pm

I just voted for Zomblog.

329 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:04:42pm

re: #314 OldLineTexan

Why? Aren't all conservatives heartless racist zionist honco bastards?

No, but 4 out of 5 aren't bad. (you guess ...)

330 wolfie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:05:01pm

Is "Best Blog Design" supposed to be a purely aesthetic category? Or does it mean best in terms of practicality, etc.? If the latter, I think LGF should have been nominated for sure! It's by far the most user-friendly blog I've ever seen.
Maybe they can't nominate a blog in more than one category. (Phooey!)

331 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:05:40pm

re: #330 wolfie

Is "Best Blog Design" supposed to be a purely aesthetic category? Or does it mean best in terms of practicality, etc.? If the latter, I think LGF should have been nominated for sure! It's by far the most user-friendly blog I've ever seen.
Maybe they can't nominate a blog in more than one category. (Phooey!)


They ought to have a "best in show"

332 SummerSong  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:05:40pm

Atlas is a contender? Seriously?

333 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:05:44pm

re: #298 Killgore Trout

he's still quite young. Buy him something cheap, maybe $100-$200. I'd recommend a nylon string classical guitar, it's easier on the fingers. Sign him up for some lessons (group or private), he'll learn how to tune it and a few chords but don't make him treat it like a priceless gem. He's going to beat on it with Lincoln Logs and put cheerios inside. That's good because it's a fun toy, let him play and experiment. If he wants to continue you can progress to a steel string in a few years then on to an electric. He'll learn to respect them in time but start out cheap and let him play.

He's toyed with the idea for a long time, in the same way he has with other things.

The Lincoln Log thing is long past, as is the Cheerio thing.

He's asked about lessons for a few months. Recently, I've noticed him trying to "plink and plunk" during Hanna Montana.

334 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:05:51pm

re: #320 Bloodnok

That is such good advice. I learned on a cheap nylon string that I absolutely destroyed. But it hooked me.

You're lucky.
Few fish survive the encounter with the Honco Pocket Fisherman.

335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:06:33pm

Oh shit. Obama the restaurant reviewer?

This been talked about?

336 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:06:39pm

re: #170 Dar ul Harb

That reminds me of a joke.

Unitarians believe in one God ...at the most.

Not true; check out CUUPS:

[Link: www.cuups.org...]

337 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:07:00pm

re: #330 wolfie

Is "Best Blog Design" supposed to be a purely aesthetic category? Or does it mean best in terms of practicality, etc.? If the latter, I think LGF should have been nominated for sure! It's by far the most user-friendly blog I've ever seen.
Maybe they can't nominate a blog in more than one category. (Phooey!)


GMTA
All the links are on home/office design topics.

338 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:07:09pm

re: #329 jwb7605

No, but 4 out of 5 aren't bad. (you guess ...)

So your parents were married. Don't get a big head.

/////

339 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:07:11pm

re: #296 Sharmuta

Git 'er done, Sharm!

Still, my concern for such online, Best/Worst polls could be measured in Micro Give-a-Shits.

Every online polling site on the web could name LGF and/or Eject! Eject! Eject! "Like, the worst blog in the history of the web. Like EVAR!", and it wouldn't matter a whit to me. They would still be among my favorite and most frequented blogs.

P.S., Why no HotAir? I like the HotAir.

340 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:07:36pm

re: #316 Iron Fist

You will go far in the New Democrat Order.

This just in from the New Democrat Order. Extraordinary renditions?

Obama is sending an unequivocal message that controversial administration policies approving harsh interrogations, waterboarding and extraordinary renditions — the secret transfer of prisoners to other governments with a history of torture — and warrantless wiretapping are over, said several officials.

Link

341 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:08:06pm

re: #339 Slumbering Behemoth

We don't need no stinkin' awards!

/And Hot Air is up for "Best Blog".

342 shiplord kirel  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:08:07pm

re: #334 Dar ul Harb

You're lucky.
Few fish survive the encounter with the Honco Pocket Fisherman.

Every gourmet cannibal needs the Honco onion-chopper: It slices, it dices; great for fava beans, too.

343 njdhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:08:13pm

re: #335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh shit. Obama the restaurant reviewer?

This been talked about?

Does he review a Waffle House?

344 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:08:51pm
345 Tarkus289  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:29pm

re: #344 taxfreekiller

January 12th, skeletor is gone.

346 njdhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:36pm

re: #344 taxfreekiller

Alan Colmbs is a ever present smirk, no, never ending smirk, ya, like that.

How long before he goes away,,, please, please, Fox pay off his contract and give him a gold watch and out the door,,,, please....!

Who is replacing Skelator?

347 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:37pm

re: #297 taxfreekiller
There ice on the north pole?
Who would have thunk that?

348 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:44pm

re: #335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh shit. Obama the restaurant reviewer?

This been talked about?

This is the extent of his business experience.

349 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:09:49pm

re: #336 Salamantis

Not true; check out CUUPS:

It's a joke, son.
/Foghorn Leghorn

350 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:10:11pm

re: #335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh shit. Obama the restaurant reviewer?

This been talked about?

The pale blue eye shadow is VERY becoming on him.

351 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:10:33pm

LGF is best primitive stinker blog.

— Sasquatch.

X

(his mark)

352 sngnsgt  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:11:24pm

re: #344 taxfreekiller

Alan Colmes is a tool. Didn't he have a radio show that's been disappeared?

353 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:12:02pm

re: #332 SummerSong

Atlas is a contender? Seriously?

I am with you. If I may repost my face palm... :facepalm:

354 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:12:19pm

Rumors are flying in WA State that Gregoire is being tapped to replace Richardson as Sec. Commerce.

Bunch of links at the Orb.

Please, please Obama, take her please. She's driven the the State budget $6B into the red, can't take responsibility for anything and can't make decisions with out years and years of committees and studies.

355 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:16pm
356 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:30pm

re: #341 Sharmuta

I see. I guess I should have looked further into the link than just the surface. I know better than that. :hangs head:

357 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:38pm

re: #333 MandyManners

Get him something cheap and let him abuse the hell out of it. I still have my first guitar which was bought for me in 2nd or 3rd grade. I put firecrackers inside it and beat on it with drumsticks. When I took up an interested in lutherie in my mid 20's I ripped off the fingerboard and developed my own interchangeable microtonal fingerboards with various scales. I just went to the basement and dug it out. I'm playing it now. Big fun after all these years.

358 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:45pm

re: #352 sngnsgt

Alan Colmes is a tool. Didn't he have a radio show that's been disappeared?

Yes. I never listened to it, but one evening he indicated he had to stop doing it because other things were taking too much of his time. (Probably editing and cleaning his blog entries ...)

I heard he's going to appear on NCIS as the dead body under the sheets.

359 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:49pm

re: #354 jcm

Rumors are flying in WA State that Gregoire is being tapped to replace Richardson as Sec. Commerce.

Bunch of links at the Orb.

Please, please Obama, take her please. She's driven the the State budget $6B into the red, can't take responsibility for anything and can't make decisions with out years and years of committees and studies.

mmmm. sounds like a perfect fit.
/

360 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:13:52pm

re: #111 motorcycleboy

Heh™
I saw you were at 1 Karma.

361 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:14:23pm

re: #345 Tarkus289

January 12th, skeletor is gone.

not for long ,, and not far. He'll still be doing shows on Fox News

362 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:15:06pm

re: #353 Slumbering Behemoth

I am with you. If I may repost my face palm... :facepalm:

Looks like a migraine coming on....go to an internet cafe, drink 2 cups of strong espresso, and log onto every computer in the place, cast your vote for LGF !
facepalm migraine resolved!

363 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:15:12pm

re: #335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh shit. Obama the restaurant reviewer?

This been talked about?

He's got good taste. Dixie Kitchen and Bait Shop is in Evanston, IL. It's a great place to eat and I still go there from time to time.

364 traderjoe9  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:15:30pm

Hamas doesn't let injured cross border to Egyptian hospitals...

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

They take every opportunity they get to perpetuate deaths in Gaza and create the impression that a crisis exists...

365 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:15:54pm

re: #352 sngnsgt

Alan Colmes is a tool. Didn't he have a radio show that's been disappeared?

he still has one of the widest liberal syndicated radio shows

366 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:16:08pm

re: #345 Tarkus289

January 12th, skeletor is gone.

I cannot wait that long, so help me.

367 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:16:53pm
368 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:16:54pm

re: #357 Killgore Trout

I recently bought a nylon string Ibanez classical guitar. I got it at Musician's Friend, as a scratch and dent special. It was about 80 bucks, delivered to my door.
The box had a dent. The guitar was in perfect condition.

369 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:20pm

re: #364 traderjoe9

Hamas doesn't let injured cross border to Egyptian hospitals...

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

They take every opportunity they get to perpetuate deaths in Gaza and create the impression that a crisis exists...

I had heard that was the case, but I'm glad to have this link.

370 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:36pm

re: #365 sattv4u2

he still has one of the widest liberal syndicated radio shows

On Sirius (Fox Talk). Sometimes it is a very engaging show.

(By sometimes, I mean once. That was when Ted Nugent was on it.)

Maybe that wasn't Alan.

371 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:46pm

re: #364 traderjoe9

Hamas doesn't let injured cross border to Egyptian hospitals...

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

They take every opportunity they get to perpetuate deaths in Gaza and create the impression that a crisis exists...

That's not why they are doing that. They don't want to allow Islamists from Hamas into Egypt for fear that they will cause trouble.

372 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:48pm
373 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:51pm

re: #357 Killgore Trout

Get him something cheap and let him abuse the hell out of it. I still have my first guitar which was bought for me in 2nd or 3rd grade. I put firecrackers inside it and beat on it with drumsticks. When I took up an interested in lutherie in my mid 20's I ripped off the fingerboard and developed my own interchangeable microtonal fingerboards with various scales. I just went to the basement and dug it out. I'm playing it now. Big fun after all these years.

Thanks!

374 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:17:53pm

re: #316 Iron Fist

Thank You Master.

375 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:18:17pm

re: #370 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

On Sirius (Fox Talk). Sometimes it is a very engaging show.

(By sometimes, I mean once. That was when Ted Nugent was on it.)

Maybe that wasn't Alan.

Charles needs to fix the single upding limit.

376 jorline  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:18:50pm

re: #344 taxfreekiller

Alan Colmbs is a ever present smirk, no, never ending smirk, ya, like that.

How long before he goes away,,, please, please, Fox pay off his contract and give him a gold watch and out the door,,,, please....!

IMHO Colmbs is hoping to become Obama's Press Secretary.
//

Alan Colmbs is a Tim Burton creation.

377 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:18:53pm

re: #368 rawmuse

I recently bought a nylon string Ibanez classical guitar. I got it at Musician's Friend, as a scratch and dent special. It was about 80 bucks, delivered to my door.
The box had a dent. The guitar was in perfect condition.

That's a great site, I got my cheapy Asian Strat there the same way! Except my scratch and dent had an actual scratch....but, for under $200 a Strat is a Strat!

378 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:19:21pm

re: #357 Killgore Trout

One of my favorite guitars is a nylon string Maya I got at a yard sale for $40. I haven't played much recently, but that's the one I make sure is tuned so when I do feel like playing I just pull it off the wall.

379 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:19:37pm

re: #333 MandyManners

Before you buy an inexpensive guitar, make sure it will actually tune. Some of the low end guitars aren't actually instruments, they are more like toys.

And get an electric tuner with the guitar. It is a highly advanced ability to tune by ear. Most all people who think they can tune by ear can't.

As for the lessons, the typical music store guy wants a longtime customer so he'll probably start the kid off playing scales and learning the intricacies of the fretboard. Which will absolutely bore the hell out of just about any kid and most will lose interest before they get good enough to play anything. Some will stick with it, but its like pushing a rope for the folks.

I taught my own kid how to play with a single 1-hour lesson. Heres how you make all the chords. Drew them up so he could understand which fingers went where for the basic chords. Then he spent hours and hours practicing the chords and songs. Then you teach them about tablature and all the online sites for downloading easy to read instructions for harder and harder songs.

From that point on, its all about desire. The kid has to want to play. Thats why I advocate teaching chords and easy songs right off the bat. Once the kid can strum some easy chords and play some tunes they get infected with the disease and they want to play and learn more and more. Then they can dig deeper and learn about scales and playing leads.

380 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:19:50pm

re: #367 Iron Fist

Boy, that's who we need running Commerce. When you care enough to send only the best incompetent fool...

I was taught to share, we can share what we've been going through for the last 4 years in WA.
/

Seriously, she'd be a bad choice for WH trash collector.

381 jorline  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:20:13pm

re: #369 reine.de.tout

I had heard that was the case, but I'm glad to have this link.

{reine}...hope you're well this evening.

382 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:20:41pm

re: #379 Mich-again

Before you buy an inexpensive guitar, make sure it will actually tune. Some of the low end guitars aren't actually instruments, they are more like toys.

And get an electric tuner with the guitar. It is a highly advanced ability to tune by ear. Most all people who think they can tune by ear can't.

As for the lessons, the typical music store guy wants a longtime customer so he'll probably start the kid off playing scales and learning the intricacies of the fretboard. Which will absolutely bore the hell out of just about any kid and most will lose interest before they get good enough to play anything. Some will stick with it, but its like pushing a rope for the folks.

I taught my own kid how to play with a single 1-hour lesson. Heres how you make all the chords. Drew them up so he could understand which fingers went where for the basic chords. Then he spent hours and hours practicing the chords and songs. Then you teach them about tablature and all the online sites for downloading easy to read instructions for harder and harder songs.

From that point on, its all about desire. The kid has to want to play. Thats why I advocate teaching chords and easy songs right off the bat. Once the kid can strum some easy chords and play some tunes they get infected with the disease and they want to play and learn more and more. Then they can dig deeper and learn about scales and playing leads.

Find a friend that is better than you are and copy his chops!

383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:20:45pm

re: #373 MandyManners

My son (who now plays fabulously) 's first guitar was my old one. He dropped it, thought was going to die. Looked at him and said, it's wood. Don't hurt it on purpose; other than that it's just a block of wood.

Just tell the kid that "de-construction" is out of the question until you can find a throw away guitar at a dump or something.

384 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:05pm
385 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:21pm

So, what do you Lizards like for "Best Food Blog"?

I never hear of any of them.

386 jorline  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:31pm

bbiaw

387 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:35pm

re: #363 Dark_Falcon

He's got good taste. Dixie Kitchen and Bait Shop is in Evanston, IL. It's a great place to eat and I still go there from time to time.

Oh, and I forgot to mention: They are open for breakfast and they do serve fruit-topped waffles. No doubt that has attracted Obama.

388 avanti  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:41pm

re: #282 n in wi

I think Obama's in favor of a play off system.
He won't say it officially as the re is only one college football commissioner at a time.

He is in favor

389 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:21:59pm
390 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:22:09pm

re: #384 Iron Fist

Anything that makes Jihadi uncomfortable is now torture. That would include women getting to close to him. Shit, take Jihadi to a strip club, and he'll spill his guts after the first lapdance.

Have I said that we are so hosed on this thread yet? We are so hosed.

Don't forget the pork ribs and booze....that combo will turn him to the dark side....bbwwwaahahaha

391 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:22:44pm

re: #384 Iron Fist

Have I said that we are so hosed on this thread yet? We are so hosed.

I know. Why the hell do you think I am posting trombonist surfing vids?
It's either that or go in the bathroom and open a major artery...

392 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:23:02pm

re: #378 Noam Sayin'

I bought a guitar about 15 years ago from a grocery store in Phoenix for about 15 bucks. I wonder if I still have it. I got a lot of shit in my basement.

393 traderjoe9  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:23:03pm

re: #371 Dark_Falcon

That's not why they are doing that. They don't want to allow Islamists from Hamas into Egypt for fear that they will cause trouble.

No...the link I provided shows that Hamas has barred Palestinians from entering Egypt, not the other way around:

Cairo says dozens of empty ambulances are at the Rafah crossing - the only one to Gaza which avoids Israel.

--

Egypt has helicopters and doctors on standby at the Rafah crossing.

There are also up to 40 ambulances waiting to go into Gaza to bring out the most seriously wounded. Tonnes of medical supplies have arrived at the nearby airport of El-Arish.

But the Egyptian authorities say that, at the moment, they have no-one to treat.

Egypt's Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said the wounded were "barred from crossing" and he blamed "those in control of Gaza" for putting the lives of the injured at risk.

I do agree with you that Mubarak and others are afraid of radical Islamists seeping into Egypt and undermining his leadership...but thats not relevant in this particular case.

394 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:23:46pm

re: #373 MandyManners

Mandy, I learned basic chords and simple strumming
techniques from a weekly PBS guitar course on TV, back in the 70's. I don't know if they still have anything like that but, it wouldn't hurt to check it out.

395 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:24:11pm

re: #392 Killgore Trout

I bought a guitar about 15 years ago from a grocery store in Phoenix for about 15 bucks. I wonder if I still have it. I got a lot of shit in my basement.

It may tune in the open fret but I bet you get different notes altogether in the 12th fret.

396 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:24:21pm

re: #391 rawmuse

Nah, we're not hosed. The primitives who cannot field an army, float a navy or keep an air force in the air, are hosed.

Good night all.

397 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:24:42pm

re: #381 jorline

{reine}...hope you're well this evening.

Yes, thanks!
Some headaches, normal for me when it gets rainy (for some reason the barometric pressure changes wreak havoc with my sinuses! Not kidding).

apart from that, though, I was checking out some things, and found this ad - furniture company in chicago - "We sell more seats than the Governor". LOL!

398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:24:43pm

re: #394 notutopia

Mandy, I learned basic chords and simple strumming
techniques from a weekly PBS guitar course on TV, back in the 70's. I don't know if they still have anything like that but, it wouldn't hurt to check it out.

There are basic guitar lessons on Youtube.

399 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:25:39pm

re: #398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There are basic guitar lessons on Youtube.

And iTunes podcasts.

400 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:25:40pm

re: #398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There are basic guitar lessons on Youtube.


Great idea!

401 Promethea  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:25:47pm

re: #191 sattv4u2

What struck me was the amazing amount of young men standing around mugging for the camera (non-injured civilians) I would think if this country were "invaded by occupiers" as the palis say is happening, wouldn't young USA men be RUNNING to help the armed forces?

That's the joke. Who are all these young men who are just hanging around. Why don't they find something useful to do, like clean up the mess, or something.

402 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:25:52pm

LGF is now within a handful of votes to move into 2nd place.

403 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:26:26pm

re: #394 notutopia

Mandy, I learned basic chords and simple strumming
techniques from a weekly PBS guitar course on TV, back in the 70's. I don't know if they still have anything like that but, it wouldn't hurt to check it out.

I learned playing Creedence songs. Most are in three chords.

404 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:26:34pm

re: #389 taxfreekiller

Teach them how to read tabs and then send them to Ultimate Guitar Tabs Archive. Some of them suck on that sight, but others are dead on......

Be versatile too....play with the amp on 11 and with the acoustic picking lightly......most of all HAVE FUN. I suck and I will never be a rock star, but I have enjoyed too many hours to count playing my guitars.

405 SummerSong  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:26:39pm

re: #379 Mich-again

Great advice. My youngest started at age 12 on the guitar. I hired a guy to teach him chords and some beginner songs. (He could already read music, honor band etc, on clarinet).

He's now 20 and I bought him a nice Martin for Christmas.

407 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:27:06pm

re: #395 Mich-again

It may tune in the open fret but I bet you get different notes altogether in the 12th fret.

It's a mess but that's the fun of it. I'm playing my 1st guitar with a microtonal fingerboard. Sounds like shit but it's a real challenge.
/I assume there was a mathematical formula behind this scale but I'm at a loss to discover what it was.

408 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:27:23pm

re: #402 Sharmuta

LGF is now within a handful of votes to move into 2nd place.

w00t! Go LGF !

409 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:27:24pm
410 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:27:43pm

re: #398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There are basic guitar lessons on Youtube.

I haven't played guitar in 20 years (so I gave mine to my granddaughter), but instructables is also a good resource.

411 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:27:44pm

re: #405 SummerSong

You planning on adopting anyone soon? I'm old, but I eat a lot.

412 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:27:53pm

re: #405 SummerSong

He's now 20 and I bought him a nice Martin for Christmas.

Nice. Such a bright clean sound.

413 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:28:25pm

re: #401 Promethea

That's the joke. Who are all these young men who are just hanging around. Why don't they find something useful to do, like clean up the mess, or something.

Those young men are an Important Part of the Process of disinformation. They have to be hanging around to be available for when photographers need somebody to hold up injured and dead children for the cameras.

414 shiplord kirel  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:28:39pm

re: #365 sattv4u2

he still has one of the widest liberal syndicated radio shows

like being the leper with the most fingers.....

415 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:28:54pm

re: #394 notutopia

Mandy, I learned basic chords and simple strumming
techniques from a weekly PBS guitar course on TV, back in the 70's. I don't know if they still have anything like that but, it wouldn't hurt to check it out.

They have everybody teaching every song in every chord on the Internet.
They have dudes teaching you note for note Stevie Ray Vaughn on Comcast on demand..
If I had that stuff when i was a kid Eric Clapton would be kissing my ring tonight.

416 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:29:01pm

re: #392 Killgore Trout

I always stop at garage sales and yard sales in hopes of finding another little gem. Most are either over-priced for a garage sale goodie, or an un-tunable pile of crap as Mich-again has indicated.

417 wolfie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:29:26pm

re: #385 Slumbering Behemoth

So, what do you Lizards like for "Best Food Blog"?

I never hear of any of them.

Me neither, although I do like the name "epicurious!"

Now, if the category were "Best Blog Food," I'd have quite a few suggestions, but I guess POPCORN would have to be numero uno.

418 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:29:27pm

re: #400 notutopia

Hey Not! Just got the bill today, from my wife's outpatient Lithotripsy.

Wanna take a shot at the price?

419 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:29:41pm

re: #405 SummerSong

Great advice. My youngest started at age 12 on the guitar. I hired a guy to teach him chords and some beginner songs. (He could already read music, honor band etc, on clarinet).

He's now 20 and I bought him a nice Martin for Christmas.

Lucky kid, that's a guitar he can pass down to his kids one day

420 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:29:55pm
421 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:10pm

re: #354 jcm

She would have that great leftist idea of balancing the budget too. Print more money.

422 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:13pm

re: #407 Killgore Trout

It's a mess but that's the fun of it. I'm playing my 1st guitar with a microtonal fingerboard. Sounds like shit but it's a real challenge.
/I assume there was a mathematical formula behind this scale but I'm at a loss to discover what it was.

Doesn't matter ..they were jazz scales..

423 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:15pm

re: #405 SummerSong

Great advice. My youngest started at age 12 on the guitar. I hired a guy to teach him chords and some beginner songs. (He could already read music, honor band etc, on clarinet).

He's now 20 and I bought him a nice Martin for Christmas.

I started guitar lessons at 12 and became quite proficient by the time I was 20. I came into a small inheritance and could choose between a trip to Israel (they didn't have Birthright at that time) or a Martin. I already had a Gibson acoustic.

I chose the trip to Israel, and it changed my life.

424 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:17pm

With all the musicians lurking about this place WHY OH WHY is there no Lizard music space?

425 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:32pm

re: #393 traderjoe9

I do agree with you that Mubarak and others are afraid of radical Islamists seeping into Egypt and undermining his leadership...but thats not relevant in this particular case.

I stand corrected then.

426 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:33pm

re: #418 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

$15,000?

427 avanti  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:30:51pm

re: #415 HoosierHoops

They have everybody teaching every song in every chord on the Internet.
They have dudes teaching you note for note Stevie Ray Vaughn on Comcast on demand..
If I had that stuff when i was a kid Eric Clapton would be kissing my ring tonight.

My son plays writes and sings in a local band, a acoustic set Here

428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:31:04pm

re: #426 Desert Dog

Low

429 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:31:05pm

re: #414 shiplord kirel

like being the leper with the most fingers.....

Was just setting the record straight. One post stated he's off the air next week. FALSE, he's only off of Hannity and Colmes. he'll be a semi-regular on other Fox news shows and will have his own project shows occasionally
Anothre stated he's off radio. FALSE, as I stated he is one of the most syndicated liberal radio shows

430 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:31:31pm

re: #428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

ouch...hope you have good insurance then

431 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:31:34pm

re: #418 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Not! Just got the bill today, from my wife's outpatient Lithotripsy.

Wanna take a shot at the price?

$15 K

432 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:31:49pm

punjabi mc jogi

namaste, y'all
/Time to eat da feesh

433 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:05pm
434 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:12pm

re: #403 Bloodnok

I learned playing Creedence songs. Most are in three chords.

I actually graduated to guitar after learning how to play the ukulele. It was very fun and an easy transition going into the guitar chords. That uke still gets packed with us when we go on camping trips.

435 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:17pm

3 votes away......

436 SummerSong  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:18pm

re: #411 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You planning on adopting anyone soon? I'm old, but I eat a lot.

Sure, come on over. I have a freezer full of Morning Star, Gardenburger and Tofurky products. My oldest son is veg also.

437 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:22pm
438 Promethea  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:25pm

re: #251 hous bin pharteen

If Al Franken is eligible for the vote, it will be rigged. Now we are getting a limousine liberal in the senate. One that has a cocaine problem now, (oh, i don't use it now. Yeah, right) Cheats his employees on there medical benefits, has been proven to cheat on his corporate income taxes, yet alone the fraudulent votes he has now.
What are the assholes going to come up with next? Dig up the body of Lenin and Stalin and run them in the next election?

I believe his Air America venture also stole money from a children's charity.

439 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:31pm

My favorite guitar is my 71 Les Paul Custom that I have beat up all to hell over the last 28 years or so. Bought it used with money I earned washing dishes at a Bonanza Steak Pit when I was 16. I quit in the middle of a shift when I knew the paycheck would cover the last layaway payment.

440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:32:41pm

Lithotripsy.

1 hour procedure.

Outpatient..

$22,000.00

441 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:10pm

re: #417 wolfie

Beer, my dear Wolfie, beer. That is the "Best Blog Food", hands down. Coffee comes in second, with cigarettes coming in at a close third.

/Shut up! They are too foods!

442 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:28pm

The Big 12 is a fraud.

443 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:30pm

re: #433 taxfreekiller

James McMurty quit drinking and chasing women just so's he could buy more guitars...

which he used to get more women.....it's the circle of life....

444 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:39pm

re: #436 SummerSong

Sure, come on over. I have a freezer full of Morning Star, Gardenburger and Tofurky products. My oldest son is veg also.

I'd be a vegetarian if i could still eat chicken, beef and pork!

445 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:45pm

OMG...OSU just pulled ahead.

446 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:47pm

re: #418 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Not! Just got the bill today, from my wife's outpatient Lithotripsy.

Wanna take a shot at the price?

14 grand

447 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:50pm

re: #421 hous bin pharteen

She would have that great leftist idea of balancing the budget too. Print more money.

She's been bought by the unions, SEIU and NEA in particular.

448 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:52pm

re: #424 experiencedtraveller

With all the musicians lurking about this place WHY OH WHY is there no Lizard music space?

Maybe for us lurkers? Well, I'm lurking on this subject. We bought a beginner guitar for my kids a few years back, but then the teacher had another baby and didn't want to continue.

The big problem is that I am absolutely, 100%, certifiably, tone-deaf. Guitar's out of tune, and no adults in the house can tune it. On the advice of...let me scroll up...Mich-again, I just went to Amazon and bought a low-end electronic tuner. The boys have interest in the guitar, and I'm thinking now we can have someone start using it.

449 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:52pm
450 SummerSong  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:33:53pm

re: #412 Mich-again

Nice. Such a bright clean sound.

He tried to like some less expensive ones. He really tried, but I know him and I could see the light in his eyes when he held that one.

451 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:34:19pm

re: #434 notutopia

I actually graduated to guitar after learning how to play the ukulele. It was very fun and an easy transition going into the guitar chords. That uke still gets packed with us when we go on camping trips.

I was obsessed with detuning and learning open voicings. I got a banjo when I was in high school and loved the challenge (still have it). I would LOVE a ukelele. Hell, I would love any instrument -string or otherwise.

452 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:34:20pm

re: #438 Promethea

I believe his Air America venture also stole money from a children's charity.

It did. Grrrr.

453 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:34:24pm

re: #446 OldLineTexan

22

454 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:34:31pm

re: #415 HoosierHoops

They have everybody teaching every song in every chord on the Internet.
They have dudes teaching you note for note Stevie Ray Vaughn on Comcast on demand..
If I had that stuff when i was a kid Eric Clapton would be kissing my ring tonight.

And I thought I was sooo fortunate to have access to those free lessons on TV...

455 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:34:34pm

1 vote.......

456 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:34:43pm

re: #427 avanti

My son plays writes and sings in a local band, a acoustic set Here

That shit is hot! I really like it..Who is the singer?
I am very impressed with that song writing

457 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:35:08pm

re: #450 SummerSong

I know that look. Someone playing a Martin for the first time.

458 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:35:13pm
459 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:35:21pm

re: #440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lithotripsy.

1 hour procedure.

Outpatient..

$22,000.00

Sounds like we are both in the wrong business then......Amazing.....did that include the $10 tylenol and the $50 "sterile kit"?

460 SummerSong  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:35:28pm

re: #423 Alouette

I started guitar lessons at 12 and became quite proficient by the time I was 20. I came into a small inheritance and could choose between a trip to Israel (they didn't have Birthright at that time) or a Martin. I already had a Gibson acoustic.

I chose the trip to Israel, and it changed my life.

:) That is wonderful!

461 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:35:33pm

re: #448 EmmmieG

Nice. I hope you livestream their jams.

462 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:35:50pm

I think the Conservative label is worn out.

I am now a card carrying member of the Honcosphere.

463 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:12pm

re: #458 Iron Fist

Just as long as you don't make me eat the rabbit food. Rabbit, OTOH, tastes just like chicken.

Oddly ,, so does chicken !

464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:28pm

re: #459 Desert Dog

Sounds like we are both in the wrong business then......Amazing.....did that include the $10 tylenol and the $50 "sterile kit"?

I'm wondering if it included the 4 extra hours in the hospital because the physician was running late.

465 sngnsgt  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:30pm

re: #365 sattv4u2

he still has one of the widest liberal syndicated radio shows

LOL! Like I'd know or care, I never have nor will listen to it. It's too bad he takes up air and space on H&C on Fox.

466 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:37pm

re: #462 karmic_inquisitor

I think I'm a Neohonc.

467 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:52pm
468 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:36:58pm
469 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:06pm

re: #440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lithotripsy.

1 hour procedure.

Outpatient..

$22,000.00

Woow...I hope you requested an itemized bill. Check it over triple times. That is hefty for an outpatient procedure.

470 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:08pm

LGF is now in second place!

471 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:13pm

re: #453 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

22

My wife got four hours at the emergency clinic for only 7 grand. You wuz robbed.

472 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:28pm

PLUS THREE!

473 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:30pm

I got to play some very old basses today. A friend owns them. He has been collecting them, they fill his house. I played one that was previously owned by Ron Carter. Very heavy instrument, the finest hardwoods, about 300 years old. It played like a dream.

474 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:31pm

Not an OSU fan, but, uh...they kind of deserve a bowl win.

475 Render  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:37pm

Gary Moore - Don't Believe a Word

Motorhead - I Don't Believe a Word

I never did and I never will.

NOT
ONE
WORD,
R

476 meeshlr  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:38pm

Pure is boring. And irrational.

I'm voting LGF.

477 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:37:46pm

re: #461 experiencedtraveller

Nice. I hope you livestream their jams.

Going to be a while. They're 11 and 9. My husband has musical talent, but was pushed too hard and now won't touch it. My daughter plays piano well, and has actually gotten to the stage where her practice is enjoyable to listen to. That's such a relief.

478 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:21pm

re: #432 Killgore Trout

Good fun. Dats bookmarked.

479 bosforus  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:27pm

re: #473 rawmuse

I got to play some very old basses today. A friend owns them. He has been collecting them, they fill his house. I played one that was previously owned by Ron Carter. Very heavy instrument, the finest hardwoods, about 300 years old. It played like a dream.

Envious!

480 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:27pm
481 avanti  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:28pm

re: #439 Mich-again

My favorite guitar is my 71 Les Paul Custom that I have beat up all to hell over the last 28 years or so. Bought it used with money I earned washing dishes at a Bonanza Steak Pit when I was 16. I quit in the middle of a shift when I knew the paycheck would cover the last layaway payment.

Funny story that you will get. Back about 30 years ago a guy come in my stereo store in Annapolis and wants to trade me a guitar he made at home for a $400 stereo. Being a smart guy, I politely declined. Years later when I met Paul Reed Smith again, we had a laugh together.

482 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:29pm

re: #471 OldLineTexan

My wife got four hours at the emergency clinic for only 7 grand. You wuz robbed.

yweah ,, but you brought her to Walts Emergency Clinic and All Nite Oil and Lube ,, AND you had a discount coupon!

483 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:42pm

I would like to personally thank all the communist fascist relativist atheist darwinist evolutionists who boosted my karma beyond 10,000!

/

484 esch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:45pm

re: #440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How often?

485 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:38:46pm

re: #384 Iron Fist
Good point. To me, Gitmo is a trip to the Caribbean. Sun, sand, and water..................................aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Can I have a Margarita please?

486 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:39:18pm

re: #467 taxfreekiller

Sean won't do that. He's gonna bring in a nice cake and a gift bag with his latest book inside for Colmes.

487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:39:41pm

re: #484 esch

once.

488 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:39:54pm

re: #483 Salamantis

I would like to personally thank all the communist fascist relativist atheist darwinist evolutionists who boosted my karma beyond 10,000!

/

No way!

489 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:40:06pm

re: #482 sattv4u2

yweah ,, but you brought her to Walts Emergency Clinic and All Nite Oil and Lube ,, AND you had a discount coupon!

Fred's Hospital

/years ago, on a local road that lead out into nowhere, someone painted "Fred's Bank" on the side of a run-down old horse shed. It stuck with me.

490 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:40:20pm

It is cold here in Southern California. 39 degrees outside (probably warmer that elsewhere in much of the Northern Hemisphere, but hey - we are wimps).

Looks like it is time to oxidate some cellulose fibers (because plain old "burning wood" is frowned up here).

491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:40:35pm

re: #489 OldLineTexan

Old Steve Martin Joke.

492 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:40:53pm

+7

493 SummerSong  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:40:55pm

re: #460 SummerSong

:) That is wonderful!

By the way, same kid is saving up for a surfing trip to Indonesia.

I don't want him to go, so I went with the Martin!

494 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:40:59pm

re: #489 OldLineTexan

Fred's Hospital

/years ago, on a local road that lead out into nowhere, someone painted "Fred's Bank" on the side of a run-down old horse shed. It stuck with me.

'Eat Here And Get Gas"

(sign I actually saw in Nebraska back in the late 70's)

495 bosforus  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:41:08pm

re: #490 karmic_inquisitor

20 degrees where I am, which is 6 higher than it was this afternoon.

496 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:41:30pm

re: #491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Old Steve Martin Joke.

Missed that one. Must've been too SMALL.

497 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:41:37pm
498 esch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:41:41pm

re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Be glad. That's what I cost every 3 months.

499 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:41:49pm

Someone probably mentioned it already, but it is a true crime against humanity that Atlas Shrugs has almost as many votes as LGF.

And, as is stated in my contract, I must say that I despise that woman.

500 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:41:54pm

re: #490 karmic_inquisitor

It is cold here in Southern California. 39 degrees outside (probably warmer that elsewhere in much of the Northern Hemisphere, but hey - we are wimps).

Looks like it is time to oxidate some cellulose fibers (because plain old "burning wood" is frowned up here).

After 3 weeks of snow and freezing it's 42° in Seattle.

501 Boxy_brown  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:42:01pm
"Which will undoubtedly infuriate some people who think we aren’t pure enough."

Congratulations Charles, you have great taste in the idiots you infuriate.

As someone who was called a RINO for actually advocating for a republican candidate as opposed to a moonbat, 3rd party, self proclaimed "uber conservative" who stood no chance of being elected dog catcher just let me say that anyone who doesn't think I am "pure" enough can go screw themselves. Oh, while we are at it, thanks for Obama. Never let it be said that you would settle for the lesser of 2 evils... you got the greater one.

502 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:42:12pm

horrible spot

503 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:42:25pm

re: #495 bosforus

20 degrees where I am, which is 6 higher than it was this afternoon.

72 degrees here at almost 11 pm.
I really hope we get a little winter weather before winter's over with.

504 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:42:43pm

re: #495 bosforus

20 degrees where I am, which is 6 higher than it was this afternoon.

Break out the Coppertone ...

/

505 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:42:54pm

re: #498 esch

Holy crap! None of my business, but for what?!?!?! Wouldn't amputation just be easier?

506 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:43:01pm

re: #481 avanti

Wow. Very cool story. I'm guessing if you could have that scene over you would make the trade.

507 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:43:13pm

re: #473 rawmuse

I got to play some very old basses today. A friend owns them. He has been collecting them, they fill his house. I played one that was previously owned by Ron Carter. Very heavy instrument, the finest hardwoods, about 300 years old. It played like a dream.

I love the Bass..Had a room mate in college that played bass for a local band.
The Bass controls the music!

508 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:43:16pm

OK, maybe not so horrible

509 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:43:29pm

re: #499 Wyatt Earp

Someone probably mentioned it already, but it is a true crime against humanity that Atlas Shrugs has almost as many votes as LGF.

And, as is stated in my contract, I must say that I despise that woman.

I didn't see it mentioned, but I did notice that and I cannot for the life of me figure out how in the world Atlas has almost as many votes as LGF.

Don't like her much, myself.

510 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:43:35pm

re: #505 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy crap! None of my business, but for what?!?!?! Wouldn't amputation just be easier?

they DID amputate,,,,,,,,,, his bank account !

511 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:44:27pm
512 avanti  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:44:31pm

re: #456 HoosierHoops

That shit is hot! I really like it..Who is the singer?
I am very impressed with that song writing

Thanks but he's still got his day job. He's playing the guitar, wrote the song, did the keyboard work and sings. As a teenager he had Good Charlotte beg to open for his band, now they are signed, and famous and the A holes won't even take his phone calls.

513 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:44:34pm

re: #507 HoosierHoops

The Bass controls the music!

Yup. Just ask Mike Huckabee.

514 esch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:44:41pm

re: #505 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Heh, tried that. 4 times, actually. Remicade for Crohn's disease. Works pretty well, but man is it expensive.

515 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:44:48pm

re: #490 karmic_inquisitor

46 and misting, here in San Jose.

I'm like you - I'm a wimp.

516 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:45:15pm

re: #481 avanti

Awesome story.

517 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:45:25pm

re: #514 esch

Prayers.

518 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:45:32pm

Hey y'all sorry to be late to the party! What are we talking about?

519 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:45:45pm

re: #440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lithotripsy.

1 hour procedure.

Outpatient..

$22,000.00

Crap. I'm apparently going to die. (Just looked it up)

520 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:46:03pm

re: #475 Render

Howdy, metal head. How you been?

ALL
YOU
,
SB

521 esch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:46:04pm

re: #510 sattv4u2

Lol yep 22 years now.

Rule #1: Do whatever you have to do to keep medical insurance.

522 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:46:18pm

re: #507 HoosierHoops

I love the Bass..Had a room mate in college that played bass for a local band.
The Bass controls the music!

I agree. I enjoy playing bass MUCH more than guitar. A good bass player adds so much to music -and there are so many places you can go with a bass line if you want to.

523 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:46:20pm

TD TEXAS !

524 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:46:28pm

FBV ,,, AMAZING ,,,,,LOL TEXAS !

525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:46:52pm

Son of a bitch... Texas scores with 16 seconds left to take the lead.

526 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:09pm

re: #499 Wyatt Earp

Someone probably mentioned it already, but it is a true crime against humanity that Atlas Shrugs has almost as many votes as LGF.

And, as is stated in my contract, I must say that I despise that woman.

As mentioned 2 threads back, if P G wins the Internet will experience a blackout condition when Fjordman posts a 4 Gigabyte congratulatory "note" and it hits the RSS feeds.

The Internet can handle streaming audio.

The Internet can handle streaming video.

The Internet can't handle streaming Fjordman-ego.

527 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:15pm

FBV

Tressel should NOT EVER go back to Ohio!

528 esch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:17pm

re: #517 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey thanks man, I appreciate it.

529 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:18pm

re: #438 Promethea

Oh, for gods sake. What did he do next? Mug blind people on the street?

530 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:20pm

re: #442 Mich-again

The Big 12 is a fraud.

The Big 10 is a fraud.

531 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:40pm
532 njdhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:52pm

re: #525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Son of a bitch... Texas scores with 16 seconds left to take the lead.

Helluva game.

533 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:55pm

re: #530 Mich-again

The Big 10 is a fraud.

schizo!

534 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:47:57pm

re: #530 Mich-again

The Big 10 is a fraud.

The Big East is a fraud.

/next!

535 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:48:03pm

re: #530 Mich-again

The Big 10 is a fraud.

It's a tie after Chokelahoma does what they do best

536 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:48:04pm

Wow. Poor OSU. They need to not play BCS again for a while as a protest.

537 avanti  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:48:20pm

re: #483 Salamantis

I would like to personally thank all the communist fascist relativist atheist darwinist evolutionists who boosted my karma beyond 10,000!

/

I just gave you a up ding, but I'm only a liberal agnostic, Darwinist evolutionist commie.

538 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:48:29pm

re: #512 avanti

Thanks but he's still got his day job. He's playing the guitar, wrote the song, did the keyboard work and sings. As a teenager he had Good Charlotte beg to open for his band, now they are signed, and famous and the A holes won't even take his phone calls.

He is going in the right direction if you ask me....

539 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:48:36pm

re: #524 sattv4u2

FBV ,,, AMAZING ,,,,,LOL TEXAS !

"and the Buckeyes are looking for a miracle".
HEHTM

540 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:11pm
541 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:26pm

re: #518 realwest

Hey y'all sorry to be late to the party! What are we talking about?

Guitars, cadillacs...

542 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:32pm

re: #511 taxfreekiller

tough seal

[Link: www.sunnewspapers.net...]

Very Tough! and so Is his wife!
He's froggin' again with his old SEAL buds now TFK.
The water's fine....

543 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:42pm

re: #539 jwb7605

"and the Buckeyes are looking for a miracle suicide prevention hotline".
HEHTM

fixed

544 esch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:50pm

re: #531 Iron Fist

That's the truth. Without insurance, I couldn't afford to live. I'd be spending more than I make on medicine.

HEAR that. Insurance companies hate me. And the feeling is mutual. I'm probably around the half-mil point by now with all the hospitalizations/surgeries.

Still better than dying.

545 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:49:56pm

re: #526 karmic_inquisitor
ROTFLMAO! Great one KT!

546 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:50:16pm

re: #499 Wyatt Earp

Someone probably mentioned it already, but it is a true crime against humanity that Atlas Shrugs has almost as many votes as LGF.

And, as is stated in my contract, I must say that I despise that woman.

It's insulting to the people on that list that display the best of conservatism- VDH, Bill Whittle and Charles. She's not fit to wipe any of these men's boots.

547 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:50:30pm

re: #544 esch

I'm thinking! I'm thinking!

-Jack Benny

548 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:50:32pm

re: #543 sattv4u2

fixed

Oh how I wish the announcer would have said that!

549 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:50:41pm
550 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:50:52pm

re: #546 Sharmuta

It's insulting to the people on that list that display the best of conservatism- VDH, Bill Whittle and Charles. She's not fit to wipe any of these men's boots.

Or butts.

551 njdhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:51:05pm

One play left....can they perform a miracle?

552 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:51:14pm

re: #524 sattv4u2

FBV ,,, AMAZING ,,,,,LOL TEXAS !

Texas wins a bowl game..
All is right again with the world...

553 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:51:18pm

re: #533 sattv4u2

schizo!

Eggsactly. I get stuck in a for-next loop when OSU plays in a bowl game. On one hand I want them to win for the conference. OTOH I am programmed to root against them.

554 avanti  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:52:23pm

re: #509 reine.de.tout

I didn't see it mentioned, but I did notice that and I cannot for the life of me figure out how in the world Atlas has almost as many votes as LGF.

Don't like her much, myself.

That's because you guys would be lefties on her blog, go figure.

555 bosforus  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:52:50pm

re: #504 karmic_inquisitor

Break out the Coppertone ...

/

More like - break out the 4wd drive and get ready for a two hour drive home. Friggin snow!

556 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:53:10pm

re: #552 HoosierHoops

Texas wins a bowl game..
All is right again with the world...

Rice already won a bowl game...Hell is still frozen over.

557 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:53:58pm

Maybe Tressel needs to borrow a sweatshirt or something. This professorial thang just ain't working out for him.

Bless his heart.

558 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:54:12pm

re: #554 avanti

That's because you guys would be lefties anti-idiotarians on her blog, go figure.

fixed

559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:54:36pm

Just think if Ron Paul had a blog.

560 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:54:39pm

I hope the Lions take James Laurenitis with the 1st pick overall. He is the best player in College Football.

561 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:54:47pm

Bed. Bye.

562 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:54:58pm

re: #552 HoosierHoops

Texas wins a bowl game..
All is right again with the world...

AAAaaaaaaaaaEeeeeeeeeee!
Hook 'Em Horns!

563 wolfie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:02pm

re: #541 Noam Sayin'

:D Loooove De-wight! (Now Mr. Wolf is annoyed because I want to dance.)

564 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:17pm

hey Lizard Honcos! I voted!

I step away for a short while and there are 500+ posts. You-all have been busy.

Are we still OT?

565 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:18pm

Goodnight honcos.

566 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:20pm

re: #557 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Maybe Tressel needs to borrow a sweatshirt or something. This professorial thang just ain't working out for him.

Bless his heart.

Ohio State has one consolation, at least; they've done a helluva lot better than their archrival Michigan over the last few years...

567 BaseballMom57  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:22pm

Good evening, Lizards...been reading off and on since the last thread. Heading for bed now, though.

I wanted to thank everyone who has been praying for my hubby since before Christmas. He is doing very well. They took his trache tube out today, and told him he may even get to go home before Friday. All the docs need to sign off on the discharge. We are thrilled! I updated Goddess earlier this evening.

Good night!

568 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:31pm

re: #521 esch
Absolutely! NO LIE: I spent two weeks in a for profit hospital in NYC when they discovered my cancer - lots of MRI, CT, and other tests, NO biopsy,no surgery nothing but those "x-ray" type tests, pain killers and the bill was OVER $250,000.
And, of course, I had no medical insurance!
Mind you, all of my MRI's, CT and other tests have been around for 20+ years so it wasn't like the hadda pay off the capital costs of buying these machines!
GET AND KEEP MEDICAL INSURANCE, even if ya only eat twice a day to afford it!

569 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:52pm
570 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:55:57pm

In an earlier thread, someone mentioned The Producers, and I came up with this:

Springtime for Hamas

Springtime for Hamas and Palestine
Gaza is crappy and gray
They're marching to a faster pace
Look out, here comes the monster race
Springtime for Gaza and Hamasistan
Gaza is Jew-free once more

571 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:56:33pm

re: #566 Salamantis

Ohio State has one consolation, at least; they've done a helluva lot better than their archrival Michigan over the last few years...

*wipes away a tear*

572 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:56:39pm

re: #541 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! Why are we discussing Dwight's song?!?

573 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:56:57pm

re: #560 Mich-again

I hope the Lions take James Laurenitis with the 1st pick overall. He is the best player in College Football.

I hope the Lions take a loser and leave a good player available for the Bears.

574 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:56:58pm

For the Texas Fans. Weezer, The Sweater Song.

575 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:57:13pm

re: #565 Bloodnok

Goodnight honcos.

Who you call'n honco?
*wink*
Good night

576 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:57:21pm

re: #554 avanti

That's because you guys would be lefties on her blog, go figure.

Lizards: I know lefties. Lefties are friends (actually, relatives, but I like 'em) of mine. Lizards, you are no lefties.

577 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:57:54pm

re: #569 Iron Fist

Well, they did it to themselves, then.

Heavens, though, what a story!

578 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:00pm

re: #555 bosforus

More like - break out the 4wd drive and get ready for a two hour drive home. Friggin snow!

A little more that a year ago I was at a client's office in Pittsburgh and it started snowing. It was before Xmas and I commented on how lucky they were to have such beautiful snow for the holidays.

At that moment everyone in the room wanted to kill me.

579 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:00pm

re: #573 Dark_Falcon

I hope the Lions take a loser and leave a good player available for the Bears.

I hope the Broncos draft a running back in the 6th round.

580 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:40pm

re: #572 realwest

HEY NOAM! Why are we discussing Dwight's song?!?

Hey RW! How you doin' tonite?

581 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:58:59pm

These demonstrations in SF are getting ugly. Bordering on riots.
I will be downtown all day tomorrow and hope I don't get involved.
I have a short tolerance for idiots.

582 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:59:18pm

re: #549 Iron Fist

We haven't made it to guns yet. I'm going to go try and get some sleep.

L8ter.

Yeah, we haven't had a gun-nut segment of a thread since, well last night when you posted your wish list. Nice choices. I'd like to have one of those bullpups, myself.

583 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:59:24pm

re: #560 Mich-again

I hope the Lions move to Los Angeles

584 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:59:26pm

re: #550 Wyatt Earp
Hey, howdy Wyatt! I heard that Pamela has been advertising the hell out of these awards since first thing this morning.
Some of us mentioned them a few threads back and I, uh, did some cheerleading, but Charles was mum about it until this thread - and we now have a lead on her and are closing in on the Ace of Spades (whereas this afternoon Ace had a huge lead on everyone)!

585 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 8:59:28pm

Gooooooooood evening, Friends!

Had a date tonight! :)

Also spent some time making Root beer! Quite an interesting evening!

586 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:00:11pm

re: #583 Shug

Hope springs eternal!

587 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:00:28pm

re: #584 realwest

Hey, howdy Wyatt! I heard that Pamela has been advertising the hell out of these awards since first thing this morning.
Some of us mentioned them a few threads back and I, uh, did some cheerleading, but Charles was mum about it until this thread - and we now have a lead on her and are closing in on the Ace of Spades (whereas this afternoon Ace had a huge lead on everyone)!

720 - 611 - 577

588 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:00:36pm

re: #586 Mich-again

Hope springs eternal!


I believe they call it Cornbread

589 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:00:46pm

re: #583 Shug

I hope the Lions move to Los Angeles

Lions in the Colosseum?

590 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:00:55pm
591 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:00:55pm

re: #585 SteveC

Gooooooooood evening, Friends!

Had a date tonight! :)

Also spent some time making Root beer! Quite an interesting evening!

Yeasted or extract?

592 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:01:09pm

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Foxnews (online) has a gallery of photos from Gaza. They are using words like "allegedly" and "according to Gaza medical sources" to describe injuries to Palestinians.

I think I would be careful with information and photos given me by Palestinians as well.

593 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:01:16pm

re: #581 rawmuse

These demonstrations in SF are getting ugly. Bordering on riots.
I will be downtown all day tomorrow and hope I don't get involved.
I have a short tolerance for idiots.

Are they going to be on Montgomery?

594 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:01:31pm

re: #584 realwest

Hey, howdy Wyatt! I heard that Pamela has been advertising the hell out of these awards since first thing this morning.
Some of us mentioned them a few threads back and I, uh, did some cheerleading, but Charles was mum about it until this thread - and we now have a lead on her and are closing in on the Ace of Spades (whereas this afternoon Ace had a huge lead on everyone)!

Can we vote early and vote often?

595 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:01:46pm

re: #568 realwest

...lots of MRI, CT, and other tests

MRI is the gold standard, best test there is, and you pay for it.

CT is an acceptable alternative when you have a pacemaker. Pacemaker and MRI get along like Batman and the Joker.

596 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:01:54pm

re: #500 jcm Hey my friend, when y'all get a chance, could you please check your e-mail?
Thankew!
Oh and btw, did that Social Worker make it to your place today?

597 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:02:27pm

re: #593 Dianna

Are they going to be on Montgomery?

From what I understand they are roving around and stopping traffic in diverse places.

598 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:02:41pm

re: #589 Sharmuta

Lions in the Colosseum?


Something tells me the Gladiators would like their chances against these Lions

599 esch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:02:43pm

re: #568 realwest

re: #569 Iron Fist

I feel for both of you. I learned the lesson right at the beginning of my adulthood, when I was still on my parent's insurance. I was lucky.

I tell everyone, especially the young: Get and keep medical insurance, at any cost. Health is merely a temporary illusion. A major illness without insurance will basically be the end of your productive life. Even if you survive, you'll spend many many years paying it off.

600 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:02:54pm

re: #563 wolfie

He's one of the few country performers I like, and he's got acting chops.

I like mostly alt-country, though - Lucinda Williams, Jimmie Dale Gilmore and that crew.

601 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:03:53pm

re: #588 Shug

I believe they call it Cornbread

I bought a big bag of Pillsbury Cornbread mix after the 4-0 preseason. I promised the kids we'd have cornbread after every Lions win. I think the expiration date passed and the bag is still sealed shut in the pantry.

602 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:04:00pm

This one burns my @ss! Libraries! I'd like a button that says "I read banned websites"

603 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:04:06pm

re: #580 ggt
Hi ggt, I'm doing ok, I guess, how are y'all doing?

604 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:04:15pm

re: #594 ggt

Can we vote early and vote often?

It's that Philadelphia way!

605 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:05:13pm

re: #595 SteveC

MRI is the gold standard, best test there is, and you pay for it.

CT is an acceptable alternative when you have a pacemaker. Pacemaker and MRI get along like Batman and the Joker.

MRI is the only method to detect the presence of a lipo sarcoma tumor.
Also, MRI's are OK if you have non-ferro-resonant metals in your body (such as titanium staples).

The technology got 'set back' for a while, because they used to call it Nuclear Magnetic Resonance. People freaked at the nucular part.

606 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:05:16pm

re: #594 ggt

Can we vote early and vote often?

Yes, it's legal, see my # 83!

607 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:05:20pm

re: #572 realwest

HEY NOAM! Why are we discussing Dwight's song?!?

We weren't, well, until Wolfie and I started in on it. I was just making a little joke, which apparently wasn't all that funny. ;)

608 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:05:23pm

re: #603 realwest

Hi ggt, I'm doing ok, I guess, how are y'all doing?

Hangin' in there! Thanks for asking.

Took the night off from doing laundry, so I'll be going to bed soon.

609 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:05:27pm

re: #587 jwb7605

720 - 611 - 577

It really grinds my gears that she has 577 votes. Must have a very big family.

610 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:05:41pm

re: #604 Wyatt Earp

It's that Philadelphia way!

Chicago, Wyatt, it's the Chicago Way.

611 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:06:04pm

Out!

612 Dianna  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:06:06pm

re: #597 rawmuse

From what I understand they are roving around and stopping traffic in diverse places.

Peachy. Just...peachy.

Oh, well. Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof.

I'm going to walk dogs and go to bed.

Night, lizards.

613 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:06:07pm

re: #591 notutopia

Yeasted or extract?

Zatarain's Root Beer Extract

614 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:06:20pm

Sure Wyatt.. was it vote early and often or Rob early and often?

615 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:07:01pm

re: #613 SteveC

Er...ever had yeast root bear? I have. Once.

It's an acquired taste.

616 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:07:10pm

re: #596 realwest

Hey my friend, when y'all get a chance, could you please check your e-mail?
Thankew!
Oh and btw, did that Social Worker make it to your place today?

Reply sent, streets were clear by 10AM, it's 9PM now and 45° back to our normal gray, wet, and cool. Social worker came, the little one will be going to Chicago to relatives. Gonna' miss her.

617 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:07:30pm

re: #614 HoosierHoops

Sure Wyatt.. was it vote early and often or Rob early and often?

Shouldn't you be in a towel?

618 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:07:32pm

re: #614 HoosierHoops

Sure Wyatt.. was it vote early and often or Rob early and often?

Who is Rob?

619 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:07:35pm

re: #613 SteveC

Zatarain's Root Beer Extract

Yum. It's even better in 1 week, if you can stand to wait that long....

620 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:07:56pm

Goodnight guys. I have to get to bed now. More rehab tommrow so I should have signed off long ago. We have alot more lizards here. Welcome all.

Al Franken, the new leftist,

621 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:07:57pm

re: #615 EmmmieG

Er...ever had yeast root bear? I have. Once.

It's an acquired taste.

Can't say that I have!

622 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:08:07pm

re: #587 jwb7605
734 - 616 - 581!

And as I said before, we belong in the Best Blog category and the Best SuperSize (very large) category and in the best community blog category.
But last I checked Jammiewearingfool was leading in his category and lawhawk (A Blog For All) was leading in the small blog category.

623 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:09:10pm

re: #616 jcm

Reply sent, streets were clear by 10AM, it's 9PM now and 45° back to our normal gray, wet, and cool. Social worker came, the little one will be going to Chicago to relatives. Gonna' miss her.

Good luck, Sasha Obama.

//

624 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:09:38pm

re: #594 ggt
You can vote once every 24 hours - this ain't Chicago, ya know?!

625 Super-ego  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:09:45pm

Voted.

I guess LGF could be considered conservative, if conservative means well reasoned and factual. I prefer it because of the non-Ideological taste and I savor the clarity.

626 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:10:54pm

re: #616 jcm Damn, I'm sorta sorry to hear about the little one - are her relatives decent folks do you know?

627 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:11:06pm

re: #622 realwest

734 - 616 - 581!

And as I said before, we belong in the Best Blog category and the Best SuperSize (very large) category and in the best community blog category.
But last I checked Jammiewearingfool was leading in his category and lawhawk (A Blog For All) was leading in the small blog category.

I truly do not understand how the categories were made.
I know what I like. I really like this site, and 8 of the other 9 sites I will not criticize.

628 notutopia  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:11:21pm

Time to log off...it's pouring rain here and the lights are
flickering...
Good Nite Lizards.

629 esch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:11:29pm

Night all.

630 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:11:45pm

Aviation Geeks.

Concorde Captain narrating the steps from supersonic cruise to landing.

631 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:12:29pm

I have been told I am tired. I must defer to feminine wisdom at this point.

632 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:12:58pm

re: #626 realwest

Damn, I'm sorta sorry to hear about the little one - are her relatives decent folks do you know?

They've cleared all the background checks, training and studies. They've put out the effort to be able to take her.

633 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:13:15pm

re: #617 Wyatt Earp

Shouldn't you be in a towel?

I do think Philly is one hell of a city..Spent about 3 months there and did have a great time...except the whole getting robbed thing...
/I shamelessly ran up those rocky steps at the art museum..It's harder than it looks

634 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:13:23pm

Here's another love note I just received from St. Louis, Missouri:

You dickheads are shameless... 555+ Palestenian, mostly innocent, killed, and what 5 Israeli's killed by chance... genocide ongoing in Gaza at the hands of the putrid and horrific Zionist criminals, and you pricks have the NERVE to marginalize and BLAME THE PALESTENIANS for their own deaths?

Bad craziness is loose in the world.

635 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:13:59pm

re: #621 SteveC

Back in college, a bunch of us went to see a friend in Southern Utah. His grandparents gave us yeast root beer. He had been raised on it and gulped it right down. The rest of us were trying so hard to be polite, sipping slowly, nodding.

He quietly traded glasses with the girls in the group and drank it for us. The other guy? He let him drink it down, watering eyes and all.

I make dry-ice root beer for the kids at Halloween. The fog is fun.

636 wolfie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:14:59pm

re: #600 Noam Sayin'

He's one of the few country performers I like, and he's got acting chops.

I like mostly alt-country, though - Lucinda Williams, Jimmie Dale Gilmore and that crew.

Don't know them. I'll check them out.

637 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:15:17pm

re: #634 Charles

Here's another love note I just received from St. Louis, Missouri:

Bad craziness is loose in the world.

Yup. To them an "innocent" Palestinian is one who hasn't killed an Israeli yet, not due to lack of effort.
(And I strongly doubt the 500+ Palis killed. If Israel really wanted to kill Palestinians, Gaza would be a wasteland after about 15 minutes.)

638 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:15:28pm

"small dead animals" is about to overtake pamela too.

You GO, little non-living critters!

639 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:15:48pm

re: #634 Charles

.

...you pricks have the NERVE to marginalize and BLAME THE PALESTENIANS for their own deaths?

Yes, I do.

640 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:16:15pm
You dickheads are shameless... 555+ Palestenian, mostly innocent, killed, and what 5 Israeli's killed by chance... genocide ongoing in Gaza at the hands of the putrid and horrific Zionist criminals, and you pricks have the NERVE to marginalize and BLAME THE PALESTENIANS for their own deaths?

It's hamas' chickens coming home to roost.

641 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:16:41pm

re: #632 jcm well I don't know what else they coulda done to check out the relatives. I'm still sorry for y'all - it's gotta hurt.
Oh and reply sent to you!

642 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:16:51pm

re: #624 realwest

You can vote once every 24 hours - this ain't Chicago, ya know?!

ah!

643 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:16:56pm

re: #634 Charles

What, exactly, is a 555+ Palestinian?

555 is a fake phone number prefix, used in literature wherever they don't want people dialing a number they read in a book.

/It's a code!

It could also be one really fat Palestinian. Just saying.

644 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:17:51pm

Does anyone remember what percentage of the vote Hamas got in the election?
IIRC, it was not close.

645 Timbre  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:18:20pm

O/T To the Ohio Lizards: Great game! Most of the time, I actually thought the Buckeyes would win. I think the Longhorns got kind of lucky, actually.

646 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:19:13pm

re: #634 Charles

mostly innocent

Klansmen are mostly innocent - only a small part of their lives are spent at lynchings and cross burnings. Hamas "militants" only spend a small portion of their lives actually attempting murder. They spend a whole lot talking about it and planning it but actually doing it - a small part.

So there is your "mostly innocent" label for ya.

647 jaunte  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:19:21pm

re: #634 Charles

Tell him there's no such thing as Palesten.

648 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:19:22pm

re: #639 jcm

.

Yes, I do.

yes, it's awful the zionists just won't let you kill them.

649 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:19:40pm

re: #648 ggt

yes, it's awful the zionists just won't let you kill them.

/sarc

650 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:20:00pm

re: #625 Super-ego
I don't know that I'd call LGF a conservative blog, cause we do have a lot of differences of opinion here on social policy and the like. Maybe more like a Liberal Blog (except that there really isn't room in today's political atmosphere for "liberals" just Lefty and Conservative. Most political labels seem to have lost their meanings afaic.
But LGF IS the best damn blog out there, whatever you want to label it.

651 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:20:17pm

re: #643 EmmmieG

What, exactly, is a 555+ Palestinian?

555 is a fake phone number prefix, used in literature wherever they don't want people dialing a number they read in a book.

/It's a code!

It could also be one really fat Palestinian. Just saying.

It's like Pennsylvania 6-5000!

652 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:20:33pm

re: #647 jaunte

Tell him there's no such thing as Palesten.

Why is it none of these people can spell?

653 pegcity  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:20:35pm

re: #634 Charles

killed by chance, i mean rockets fall on people every day by chance just like lightening

654 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:20:52pm

re: #650 realwest

I don't know that I'd call LGF a conservative blog, cause we do have a lot of differences of opinion here on social policy and the like. Maybe more like a Liberal Blog (except that there really isn't room in today's political atmosphere for "liberals" just Lefty and Conservative. Most political labels seem to have lost their meanings afaic.
But LGF IS the best damn blog out there, whatever you want to label it.

Classical Liberal is the new "conservative".

655 jaunte  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:20:57pm

re: #652 Sharmuta

Passhun, I thimk.

656 Timbre  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:21:00pm

re: #651 Wyatt Earp

Watcha know, Joe?

657 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:21:00pm

re: #641 realwest

well I don't know what else they coulda done to check out the relatives. I'm still sorry for y'all - it's gotta hurt.
Oh and reply sent to you!

That's what we signed up for. Give our best to little ones who've been dealt a raw hand.

658 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:21:01pm

Extra votes for schizophrenics and sock puppets, no more Speciesism, all beings and spiritual entities must be heard from, in fact I think I am hearing from several now.

659 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:21:18pm

re: #644 rawmuse

Does anyone remember what percentage of the vote Hamas got in the election?
IIRC, it was not close.

I remember thinking the Hams election had been rigged, that many people couldn't be idiots.

Then we voted, and now I think the Hamas results may be legit after all!

660 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:21:32pm

re: #644 rawmuse
Yep, something like 45% to around 40% for Fatah (I thought Hamas had won in an overwhelming vote, but salt4u2 or whatever was only too happy to correct me!

661 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:21:36pm

re: #652 Sharmuta

Why is it none of these people can spell?

Oh, gee, let me venture a guess. I think it is because they have shit for brains.

662 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:21:47pm

re: #658 lifeofthemind

Extra votes for schizophrenics and sock puppets, no more Speciesism, all beings and spiritual entities must be heard from, in fact I think I am hearing from several now.

drinking again?

:0

663 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:21:53pm

re: #653 pegcity

killed by chance, i mean rockets fall on people every day by chance just like lightening

"I was just walkin' down the street, and BANG!"

Idiots.

664 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:22:01pm

re: #655 jaunte

Passhun, I thimk.

Raje has taken ober thier sences.

665 avanti  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:22:02pm

re: #634 Charles

Here's another love note I just received from St. Louis, Missouri:

Bad craziness is loose in the world.

I take his point, except he has it backwards. The Palestinian civilians are being killed by accident because Hamas is trying to kill the Jewish civilians on purpose. Perhaps in the interest of fairness, the Israelis could fire rockets randomly into Gaza as a proportionate response. /s

666 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:22:08pm

Regarding last thread and the hate mail, laugh to relieve tension but do not take it lightly. Illiterates can kill.

667 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:22:46pm

re: #661 rawmuse

Oh, gee, let me venture a guess. I think it is because they have shit for brains.

Is spelling something they teach in public school these days?

668 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:23:05pm

re: #650 realwest

I don't know that I'd call LGF a conservative blog, cause we do have a lot of differences of opinion here on social policy and the like. Maybe more like a Liberal Blog (except that there really isn't room in today's political atmosphere for "liberals" just Lefty and Conservative. Most political labels seem to have lost their meanings afaic.
But LGF IS the best damn blog out there, whatever you want to label it.

Hey, wait a minute, I thought this was an evil bloodthirsty Zionist Atheist Wingnut Republitard Blog......you mean I;ve been in the wrong place this whole time? geez! Oh well, I guess I will stay then....

669 jaunte  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:23:30pm

This is not the St. Louis I knew.

670 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:23:50pm

re: #662 ggt

drinking again?

:0

That depends on what your definition of "again" is. :0

671 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:23:55pm

re: #660 realwest

Yep, something like 45% to around 40% for Fatah (I thought Hamas had won in an overwhelming vote, but salt4u2 or whatever was only too happy to correct me!

But, what percentage did Ron Paul get? And, I am certain if they recounted the votes, Al Franken would be ruling Gaza today.....

672 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:24:06pm

re: #667 ggt

Is spelling something they teach in public school these days?

I think it has been replaced by texting.

673 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:24:41pm

re: #668 Desert Dog

Hey, wait a minute, I thought this was an evil bloodthirsty Zionist Atheist Wingnut Republitard Blog......you mean I;ve been in the wrong place this whole time? geez! Oh well, I guess I will stay then....

Didn't you get the memo? W E A R E H O N C O S

674 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:24:52pm

re: #664 Sharmuta

Raje has taken ober thier sences.

They don't need no education....

675 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:25:07pm

re: #660 realwest

Yep, something like 45% to around 40% for Fatah (I thought Hamas had won in an overwhelming vote, but salt4u2 or whatever was only too happy to correct me!

hamas 44.+ %
fatah 41.+ %
9 other "parties" shared the other 11%
The vote count difference between Hamas and Fatah was 30,000 out of a total of just under 1 million votes cast

676 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:25:12pm

re: #672 rawmuse

I think it has been replaced by texting.

I forgot.

677 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:25:24pm

BTW - WattsUpWithThat is a best blog nominee in the science category.

678 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:25:35pm

re: #668 Desert Dog

Hey, wait a minute, I thought this was an evil bloodthirsty Zionist Atheist Wingnut Republitard Blog......you mean I;ve been in the wrong place this whole time? geez! Oh well, I guess I will stay then....

This is the Monty Python appreciation Blog, the BZAWRB is next door in room 12b.

679 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:26:05pm

re: #634 Charles

Here's another love note I just received from St. Louis, Missouri:


Bad craziness is loose in the world.


Is it that CAIR appologist who writes the religion column for the St Louis newspaper ?

680 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:26:10pm

re: #672 rawmuse

I think it has been replaced by texting.

Sliced bread is not the greatest thing ever.....it's SPELLCHECKER...that, is the new greatest thing ever. Making bad spellers look good for years!

681 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:26:20pm

re: #627 jwb7605 Well I agree about the 8 of 9 other sites in the Conservative side, but how the hell did Kos get nominated for anything printable?!
And I still don't understand - when the hell did they have their nominations for each category and how did the vote breakdown.
They did this to us last year too - although I thought last year it was best Community Blog.

682 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:26:59pm

re: #677 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - WattsUpWithThat is a best blog nominee in the science category.

Excellent! Outstanding work being done by that guy.

683 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:27:01pm

Whenever I try to vote all the choices say either Stuart Smiley or Ron Paul.

684 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:27:08pm

re: #634 Charles

Here's another love note I just received from St. Louis, Missouri:

You dickheads are shameless... 555+ Palestenian, mostly innocent, killed, and what 5 Israeli's killed by chance...


Bogus, bullshit statistics aside: I guess these "5 Israeli's" died by fatally stubbed toes, eh? Chance indeed.

Rockets don't kill people.

Single minded, bloodthirsty theocrats indiscriminately launching rockets into civilian populations kill people.

Suck on my avatar, Feckless from Missouri. "By chance" my ass!

685 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:27:11pm

re: #678 lifeofthemind

This is the Monty Python appreciation Blog, the BZAWRB is next door in room 12b.

Kinda explains why you haven't been getting your checks from the Zionist High Command, doesn't it?

686 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:27:40pm

re: #668 Desert Dog
LOL! Glad you're sticking around!
Hey, didja vote today?!

687 Racer X  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:27:53pm

re: #634 Charles

You dickheads are shameless... 555+ Palestenian, mostly innocent, killed, and what 5 Israeli's killed by chance... genocide ongoing in Gaza at the hands of the putrid and horrific Zionist criminals, and you pricks have the NERVE to marginalize and BLAME THE PALESTENIANS for their own deaths?


The israelis have done a really good job of targeting only bad guys, whereas Hamas has done a piss-poor job at killing as many innocent Jews as possible. But it is not for lack of trying.

688 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:28:07pm

I dialed 1-800-555-Pali and got this:
Welcome to Gaza one Hotline
press 1 to donate food, medicine and other supplies;
press 2 if you have long range programmable missles
press 3 If you have press credentials and a tag along phototog.
press 4 if you have word of any looming Fatwa's
press 5 for suicide belts and replacement parts ( Sorry our Indian Helpdesk is off line today)
press 6 If you worked on the chunnel project and are out of work
press 7 if you are a Hollywood actor
press 8 if you are Jimmy Carter ( Where you been bro?)
press 9 if you are a Charity
press 0 for the operator....

689 pegcity  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:28:33pm

re: #684 Slumbering Behemoth

Bogus, bullshit statistics aside: I guess these "5 Israeli's" died by fatally stubbed toes, eh? Chance indeed.

Rockets don't kill people.

Single minded, bloodthirsty theocrats indiscriminately launching rockets into civilian populations kill people.

Suck on my avatar, Feckless from Missouri. "By chance" my ass!

just like car bombs kill people, guns kill people and mortars kill people. Damn inanimate objects, they cannot get enough of death

690 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:29:06pm

re: #688 HoosierHoops

I dialed 1-800-555-Pali and got this:
Welcome to Gaza one Hotline
para espanol, marke numero dos
press 1 to donate food, medicine and other supplies;
press 2 if you have long range programmable missles
press 3 If you have press credentials and a tag along phototog.
press 4 if you have word of any looming Fatwa's
press 5 for suicide belts and replacement parts ( Sorry our Indian Helpdesk is off line today)
press 6 If you worked on the chunnel project and are out of work
press 7 if you are a Hollywood actor
press 8 if you are Jimmy Carter ( Where you been bro?)
press 9 if you are a Charity
press 0 for the operator....


fixed

691 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:29:06pm

re: #675 sattv4u2
How did I know you'd show up with those numbers again?! LOL!
Did y'all vote yet today?

692 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:30:14pm

re: #680 Desert Dog

Sliced bread is not the greatest thing ever.....it's SPELLCHECKER...that, is the new greatest thing ever. Making bad spellers look good for years!

Careful think of three little words x 2.
their there they're
to too two

Spellcheck is rarely a grammar check. Easy to end up looking like Mr. "Kill the Juice."

693 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:30:33pm

re: #305 rawmuse

Wake board surfing while playing the trombone.

That guy is all wet and a blow hard! :D

694 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:30:55pm

Actually, I think it should be H O N C O S ™

695 SteveC  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:31:00pm

re: #686 realwest

LOL! Glad you're sticking around!
Hey, didja vote today?!

No, but I bought War Bonds!

696 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:31:03pm

re: #654 ggt

Classical Liberal is the new "conservative".

Sarc?

697 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:31:20pm

re: #691 realwest

How did I know you'd show up with those numbers again?! LOL!
Did y'all vote yet today?

Not yet, but I did vote 'yesterday" (Monday). I'll vote today (Tuesday) later this morning. I gotta go set something up for Fox Sports now

698 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:31:59pm

OMG......

Gaza TV Children's show (child abuse) video.

699 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:32:36pm

re: #686 realwest

LOL! Glad you're sticking around!
Hey, didja vote today?!

I did.....LGF all the way, baby!

700 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:32:40pm

re: #638 Sharmuta
""small dead animals"? Is that really a blog?! Cause if they're about to overtake Pamela, that means they are also closer to us!

701 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:33:03pm

re: #699 Desert Dog

I did.....LGF all the way, baby!

I think we have pulled ahead of whatshername

702 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:33:51pm

re: #636 wolfie

Don't know them. I'll check them out.

Be warned, it's alt-country, but sometimes sounds more traditional than current country music. It's also sometimes referred to as Americana.

703 Shug  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:34:33pm

re: #698 jcm

this is a truly sick culture. rotten to the core

704 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:35:36pm

re: #680 Desert Dog
Uh, while it's true that Sliced bread is not the greatest thing ever, neither is Spellchecker - the best thing ever was the invention of canned beer!
:)

705 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:35:38pm

re: #696 Slumbering Behemoth

Sarc?



Classical Liberalism

706 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:38:22pm

re: #705 ggt

I have decided that I are one of those.

707 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:38:35pm

re: #671 Desert Dog
I wish Al Franken was ruling Gaza today.

708 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:38:39pm

re: #705 ggt


Classical Liberalism

Sounds pretty good to me!
Where do I sign up? heh

709 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:38:58pm

re: #685 SteveC

Kinda explains why you haven't been getting your checks from the Zionist High Command, doesn't it?

Mistakes? We don't make mistakes. - fm Brazil

710 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:39:25pm

re: #708 Wishing

Sounds pretty good to me!
Where do I sign up? heh

You're here.......

711 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:39:53pm

re: #673 ggt
Uh, ggt, what are H O N C H O S?

712 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:40:18pm

re: #707 realwest

I wish Al Franken was ruling Gaza today.

It would look no different. Corrupt shitholes tend to attract and retain corrupt shitheads

713 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:40:52pm

K Lizards. I gotta scoot. I have to get on the phone an order my Sham Wow. "Vince" told me I have only 20 minutes to get the "specail offer", because they can't do this all night !

714 itellu3times  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:40:57pm
You dickheads are shameless... 555+ Palestenian, mostly innocent, killed, and what 5 Israeli's killed by chance... genocide ongoing in Gaza at the hands of the putrid and horrific Zionist criminals, and you pricks have the NERVE to marginalize and BLAME THE PALESTENIANS for their own deaths?

In reverse order, yes, the Palestinians have chosen death, and by doing so are not marginalized but glorious martyrs, or so they believe - or they presumably would have chosen another path.

If you call 555 "genocide", you are an idiot. A single bomb, purposely or accidentally in the wrong place, would kill that many in an instant. What Israel does is the opposite of genocide, and I fear they make themselves totally ineffective by doing so (there is a huge spectrum between 500 and 2,000,000, since when is 2.5 hundreths of one percent "genocide"?)

Innocent? You have a list of who in the world is innocent? If they voted for Hamas, are they innocent? If they launched a missile, are they innocent? If their nephew launched a missile into Israel, should he die, should the family die? Would he go spit in the eye of a lion, and then wonder if the lion chewed his head off, and half his family, if they stood beside him? It's not that the lion is vicious, it's that he is an idiot and gets what he deserves.

As for being shameless dickheads, can't see anything hereabouts to be ashamed of, except not being more active in Israel's defense. On the final point, we will just have to leave it to the anatomy department.

715 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:41:12pm

re: #707 realwest

I wish Al Franken was ruling Gaza today.

I do too....but, I'm afraid his ugly head would already be on a pike in front of the Grand Hamas Poobahs Office...To be fair to Al, I am positive he would do a better job than the current lot. (My cat could do a better job)

716 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:41:16pm

re: #710 jcm

You're here.......

oh....
duh

717 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:41:38pm

re: #678 lifeofthemind
Excellent! And the Argument Clinic is two doors down on the left!

718 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:41:39pm

re: #692 lifeofthemind

Careful think of three little words x 2.
their there they're
to too two

Spellcheck is rarely a grammar check. Easy to end up looking like Mr. "Kill the Juice."

To their two, they're there, too.

719 itellu3times  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:41:52pm

But I will say this, if it were a choice betwee Nancy Pelosi and Hamas, I could see the difficulty that would put people in.

720 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:42:11pm

re: #716 Wishing

oh....
duh

Now we have to teach you the secret handshake.....

721 ConservativeAtheist  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:42:20pm

re: #111 motorcycleboy

I didn't know there was such a thing as an atheist 'conservative' blog. Maybe an atheist 'libertarian' blog, but certainly not conservative.

I love this place!

722 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:42:38pm

re: #711 realwest

Uh, ggt, what are H O N C H O S?

H O N C O S ™ are us.

723 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:42:42pm

re: #694 ggt

Actually, I think it should be H O N C O S ™

If you want to market the Honcosphere to the youth vote you need something edgy. How about "Honconista?" Or "Honcontra?"

724 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:43:09pm

re: #717 realwest

Excellent! And the Argument Clinic is two doors down on the left!

No it isn't.

725 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:43:30pm

re: #684 Slumbering Behemoth "Single minded, bloodthirsty theocrats indiscriminately launching rockets filled with ballbearing and other shrapnel into civilian populations kill people."
There, fixed that for ya!

726 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:43:33pm

Incredibly the Philistines have proven less competent at killing Jews than have been the Israelis themselves. If they were rational actors the Gazans would volunteer to go away and pay the Israelis a subsidy to take care of the business themselves.

Capt. Milo Minderbinder please call your office.

727 wolfie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:44:02pm

re: #704 realwest


Disposable diapers.
Flush toilet/indoor plumbing.
Frost-free refrigerator.
Moisturizing bubble bath.

728 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:44:04pm

re: #722 ggt

H O N C O S ™ are us.

You guys are making me hungry... all his N A C H O S ™ talk......

729 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:44:08pm

re: #712 karmic_inquisitor

It would look no different. Corrupt shitholes tend to attract and retain corrupt shitheads

Well, you know, when all the sane people leave to find a better life, that leaves Who/What? to run for office?

730 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:44:18pm

re: #720 jcm

Now we have to teach you the secret handshake.....

Whats that funny check I got last week? Is that part of this too?

731 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:45:03pm

re: #730 Wishing

Whats that funny check I got last week? Is that part of this too?

Shhh.....
yes

732 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:45:17pm

re: #717 realwest

Excellent! And the Argument Clinic is two doors down on the left!

No it isn't

733 pegcity  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:45:36pm

re: #726 lifeofthemind

Incredibly the Philistines have proven less competent at killing Jews than have been the Israelis themselves. If they were rational actors the Gazans would volunteer to go away and pay the Israelis a subsidy to take care of the business themselves.

Capt. Milo Minderbinder please call your office.

if they were rational they wouldn't be palis, theyd be egyptians or jordanians or lebanese

734 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:45:38pm

re: #695 SteveC
Well hell, y'all can buy War Bonds AND vote, ya know?

735 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:46:02pm

Incredible:
Hamas fugitive Zahar declares victory from secret hiding place, calls for murder of Jewish children.

Hamas spokesman Mahmoud Az-Zahar claimed victory for Hamas on Monday, saying Hamas had succeeded in “destroying Israel's sense of security” with its rocket attacks. Zahar made his proclamation in video footage sent from a secret hideout, where he is taking shelter in order to avoid being targeted in an IAF strike. Other Hamas leaders have gone into hiding as well.

Hitler in the bunker, though not even Hitler was delusional enough to declare victory from his final hide-out.

736 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:46:06pm

re: #718 solomonpanting

To their two, they're there, too.

Rotating title nominee!

737 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:46:07pm

re: #723 karmic_inquisitor

If you want to market the Honcosphere to the youth vote you need something edgy. How about "Honconista?" Or "Honcontra?"

No, I think H O N C O S ™ works well. Although I am tired of typing it.

738 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:46:30pm

Mayor Villaraigosa throws support behind Israel

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa threw his support behind Israel this afternoon, backing the country in its latest strikes against Hamas and its invasion of the Gaza Strip.

The announcement, made during a news conference, pleased Jewish leaders in Los Angeles, but sparked anger among local Muslim groups.

"I've been to Sderot and seen the wreckage caused by a constant barrage of rocket attacks," Villaraigosa said of the city in southern Israel. "I've met parents afraid to let their kids play in the streets and students unable to go to school each day. I've walked along empty roads, visited vacant buildings and witnessed the sheer destruction of a town decimated by eight years of missile strikes."

/pretty gutsy for a California politician

739 pegcity  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:47:02pm

re: #735 Shiplord Kirel

i really hope he gets to meet Yasin in hell

740 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:47:04pm

re: #634 Charles

Here's another love note I just received from St. Louis, Missouri:

Bad craziness is loose in the world.

Innocent? Dear Lord, does that person not have eyes?! A population that cheers on murderers is not innocent. They may not deserve to die, but they are surely deserving of punishment.

741 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:47:13pm

re: #727 wolfie

Disposable diapers.
Flush toilet/indoor plumbing.
Frost-free refrigerator.
Moisturizing bubble bath.

Indoor plumbing and flush toilet for $100 Alex.

742 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:47:48pm

re: #738 Killian Bundy

No, no, no...didn't you see that post a few threads back? All of our thinking is controlled by seven Jooos. Michael Eisner, Sumner Redstone, and I forget who else.

I think the mind control rays in LA would be stronger, being closer to Anaheim and all that.

/here's the sarc tag if you need it

743 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:48:16pm

In bad news, did everyone see this from the IDF spokesperson?

Friendly Fire Incident


Three IDF soldiers were killed, one was critically wounded, three were severely wounded and 20 soldiers were lightly to moderately wounded as a result of an IDF tank shell explosion fired in error during an operation in the northern Gaza Strip. The shell hit a structure where the soldiers were located.


The families of the fallen and injured soldiers have been notified.

The incident occurred during an intensive battle waged by Golani Brigade soldiers against Hamas.


In the hours following the incident other scenarios were taken into consideration as the cause, including that the explosion was caused by an enemy anti-tank missile or that the structure was rigged with explosives, but these were later ruled out.


The injured soldiers received initial medical treatment in the field before being evacuated by helicopters and vehicles to hospitals in Israel. Heavy IDF artillery fire provided cover for the evacuation.


Golani Brigade commander, Colonel Avi Peled, sustained light injuries in the incident. Col. Peled oversaw the evacuation in the field and directed the artillery and aerial cover via communication systems. Only after all those injured were evacuated did the brigade commander seek medical attention for himself

744 traderjoe9  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:48:20pm

Israeli genocide:

1948: 1,300,000 "Palestinians"
2009: 4,000,000 "Palestinians"

Israel sucks at genocide.

745 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:48:30pm

I have all my little Honco's all in a row...:) I fired the ducks!

746 jcm  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:48:49pm

'Nite all.

Every socialist is a disguised dictator.
Ludwig von Mises

747 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:49:32pm

re: #741 ggt

Indoor plumbing and flush toilet for $100 Alex.

pasteurized milk should be on that list.

748 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:50:13pm

re: #744 traderjoe9

Israeli genocide:

1948: 1,300,000 "Palestinians"
2009: 4,000,000 "Palestinians"

Israel sucks at genocide.

yeah, they didn't even write it into their Charter.

749 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:50:18pm

re: #738 Killian Bundy

Mayor Villaraigosa throws support behind Israel

/pretty gutsy for a California politician

Thank you, Mayor Villaraigosa. By actually going to see the places tormented by Islamists and drawing the right conclusions, you have shown yourself wiser than many others. Ignore the screamers who will now attack you; you have set yourself upon a righteous course, stay on it.

750 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:50:45pm

re: #740 Dark_Falcon

Innocent? Dear Lord, does that person not have eyes?! A population that cheers on murderers is not innocent. They may not deserve to die, but they are surely deserving of punishment.

The deaths are on the heads of Hama and their supporters, just as most of the deaths, on both sides, were the fault of the Nazis and Imperialist Japanese in WWII.

Furthermore, I'm going to protect those I love and value and not use some sort of "proportional equation" in the process.

751 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:50:59pm

Whenever Bad Craziness is loose in the world, I take comfort in the Book.

Here is what Zechariah had to say about our times.

And with that, I bid you good night.

752 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:51:02pm

re: #724 karmic_inquisitor
It most certainly is. I was just there!

753 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:51:05pm

re: #705 ggt

So it was kinda sarc? I am aware that "conservatism" (for awhile there, anyway) was the new "classical liberalism". What "conservative" means now? Apparently that is left to very broad, individual interpretation.

Are there any "classical liberals" left? Also, individual interpretation.

/though I can play the part of the "idiot", I am becoming quite fond of the label "Anti-Idiotarian".

754 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:51:10pm

re: #735 Shiplord Kirel

Incredible:
Hamas fugitive Zahar declares victory from secret hiding place, calls for murder of Jewish children.

Hitler in the bunker, though not even Hitler was delusional enough to declare victory from his final hide-out.

Oh the brave Muslim warrior, hiding in your caves, won't you come out to play? Won't you come out to play?

Didn't think so....

Oh Cowardly, Lilylivered, Yellow "warriors" won't you come out to play? Won't you come out to play?

I think proclaiming victory from a secret hiding place kinda negates the victory, doesn't it? The bits about murdering Jewish children do not help his "bravery" street cred either

755 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:51:45pm

re: #605 jwb7605

MRI is the only method to detect the presence of a lipo sarcoma tumor.
Also, MRI's are OK if you have non-ferro-resonant metals in your body (such as titanium staples).

The technology got 'set back' for a while, because they used to call it Nuclear Magnetic Resonance. People freaked at the nucular part.

Heh! All proof of the dismal state of science education in the world. Sure the magnetic resonance is "nuclear", all they are doing is measuring the spin quanta of un-paired protons in the nucleus of atoms (mostly hydrogen) in the body's tissues. You line 'em all up with a strong magnetic field, then turn off the field and analyze the radio-frequency signal the protons emit as they gyrate around to line up with the magnetic field of the Earth. No dangerous ionizing radiation whatsoever.

Kind of like having a platoon of troops on the parade ground, being reviewed by a general, and when he orders, "at ease", and walks away, see how long it takes for the troops to notice there's a naked babe in the reviewing stand.

756 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:53:59pm

Actually, RW, H O N C O S ™ is from Charles's post one flight down.

757 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:54:14pm

re: #700 realwest
OK, I went to small dead animals and that's two of those listed blogs I don't like: small dead animals had THIS as their headline for January 4th:
We Don't Need No Stinking Giant Fans
Well eff' them! Must be located in Philly!

758 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:54:18pm

Amazing how some columnists can be so naive:

For a brief period, America's new president will bask in universal goodwill. The Arab world, Muslims generally, and Palestinians in particular, have unprecedented reason to believe they will be heard. Israel can count on Obama's friendship. The war in Gaza requires him to act boldly and swiftly. If he has political and moral capital, he must begin by spending it there, making sure that such heartbreaking violence stops, for good.

Most of the comments are right on, though.

759 ConservativeAtheist  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:54:21pm

re: #634 Charles

Here's another love note I just received from St. Louis, Missouri:


Bad craziness is loose in the world.

That person might want to stop and ponder the idea that the population of the West Bank chose to elect their leaders who ran on a platform of "Death to Israel." You make your bed; you lie in it.

760 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:54:52pm

re: #743 lifeofthemind

In bad news, did everyone see this from the IDF spokesperson?

That sucks, a 120mm HE shell will certainly ruin your day.

/apparently Israel doesn't have Blue Force Tracking yet

761 avanti  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:55:07pm

A Darwin story for Charles in today's news

762 wolfie  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:55:10pm

re: #741 ggt

LOL! :D

763 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:55:15pm

re: #755 Alberta Oil Peon


Kind of like having a platoon of troops on the parade ground, being reviewed by a general, and when he orders, "at ease", and walks away, see how long it takes for the troops to notice there's a naked babe in the reviewing stand.

For the new Hopey Changey Forces planned by the Kossites that will be the final test before they graduate. If you notice and care at all you will fail.

764 Joan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:55:45pm

Voted.
LGF is doing well, need to cast our ballots Lizards!

Hmm. I like some of the competitors, they are very different "flavor" from LGF, doesn't make them wrong. Just not my flavor.

765 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:56:26pm

Apple Introduces Revolutionary New Laptop With No Keyboard

"Everything is just a few hundred clicks away."

766 Opilio  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:57:00pm

All your honcos are belong to us.

767 Joan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:57:15pm

re: #756 ggt

Actually, RW, H O N C O S ™ is from Charles's post one flight down.

all your honcos is belong to us

768 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:57:28pm

re: #758 solomonpanting

Amazing how some columnists can be so naive:

Most of the comments are right on, though.

He's doing a great job so far with his Helen Keller impersonation. I think the Arab world might be even more disappointed than the moonbats when "the One" finally coughs up some actual policy. (Of course, I do not expect to be very happy with his decisions either!)

769 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:58:17pm

My bud from [location redacted] just called, so I am out for now.

Later Lizards. Nice chatting with y'all, as always.

770 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:58:53pm

re: #750 Archimedes

The deaths are on the heads of Hama and their supporters, just as most of the deaths, on both sides, were the fault of the Nazis and Imperialist Japanese in WWII.

Furthermore, I'm going to protect those I love and value and not use some sort of "proportional equation" in the process.

Hama= Hamas

771 Joan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 9:59:16pm

re: #77 jwb7605

ahh, err, I gathered that um when he assumes the ascendancy he is going to er, umm, offer a dissenting uh, viewpoint from, uhh, the one uh, being pursued err, currently. um.

err, crapum.

um, well said, but; as I've always said, primarily um. Pablum.

772 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:00:33pm

re: #746 jcm
Goodnight jcm - and thank you! Sleep well my friend.

773 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:01:33pm

re: #700 realwest

""small dead animals"? Is that really a blog?! Cause if they're about to overtake Pamela, that means they are also closer to us!

Small Dead Animals is in fact a conservative blog, and one of the best-visited blogs in Canada. It doesn't hurt that the blog's proprietor, Kate McMillan is quite a hottie, either.

I gave Kate my vote, today. Tomorrow, LGF gets its due. SDA has better coverage on Canadian issues, but it's well worth a read for you folks on the underside of the 49th parallel. Some nice snark, on occasion, too.

774 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:02:14pm

re: #755 Alberta Oil Peon

MRI is the only method to detect the presence of a lipo sarcoma tumor.


The only... surely you jest.
From where I sit, pathologists have been using tissue specimens obtained through biopsy to identify those and various other cancers for years. Have the pathologist ceded all diagnostic work to the radiologists?
Radiology is "sexy" and non invasive procedures are wonderful at reducing nosocomial mortality and morbidity, but let us not marginalize the work pathologists do every day.

775 alteredbeat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:03:53pm

I voted for American Thinker.

776 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:04:01pm

re: #768 Desert Dog

He's doing a great job so far with his Helen Keller impersonation. I think the Arab world might be even more disappointed than the moonbats when "the One" finally coughs up some actual policy. (Of course, I do not expect to be very happy with his decisions either!)

What saddens me more than his willful blindness is his idea that Obama, or anyone for that matter, can bring two entities together when one desires the elimination of the other.

777 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:05:45pm

re: #776 solomonpanting

What saddens me more than his willful blindness is his idea that Obama, or anyone for that matter, can bring two entities together when one desires the elimination of the other.

It's not blindness.....it is EGO. He really thinks he can do it by the sheer will of his personality. Man, will be get a lesson in actual reality once he steps into that arena....It will not be pretty.

778 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:05:53pm

The US, being a rudderless ship for the time being, sure has been an asset to Israel with this hamas go-round.
They have 2 weeks to get er done.

779 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:06:06pm

re: #753 Slumbering Behemoth

So it was kinda sarc? I am aware that "conservatism" (for awhile there, anyway) was the new "classical liberalism". What "conservative" means now? Apparently that is left to very broad, individual interpretation.

Are there any "classical liberals" left? Also, individual interpretation.

/though I can play the part of the "idiot", I am becoming quite fond of the label "Anti-Idiotarian".

Yeah, I guess. The labels are so confused now. It's hard tell. It seems to me that what many people who consider themselves conservatives are really Classical Liberal by today's standards.

By that I mean:
+People who want government to stop taking our money and let us live our lives and make our own way.

+People who don't give a rat's @ss who anyone sleeps with as long as it isn't children or animals or involves criminal violence AND they aren't spreading diseases or creating children they don't want or can't raise responsibly.

+People who don't mind helping people truly in need and actually consider that doing so makes economic sense, but we don't think we should be paying for people to drive luxury SUV's while expecting us to buy their bread and milk.

+People who are happy, overjoyed, to pay for public education, but expect children to actually learn how to read and write and appreciate the history of this country.

+People who probably know more about how to care for the environment and have been doing so for nearly a century by purchasing hunting and fishing licenses as well as actually spending time in the outdoors and learning a healthy respect for it.

+People who are not afraid and, actually see the logic, idea of defending oneself and one's nation against imminent danger.

etc . . .

/rant off

780 gmsc  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:06:26pm
781 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:06:42pm

re: #778 Wishing

The US, being a rudderless ship for the time being, sure has been an asset to Israel with this hamas go-round.
They have 2 weeks to get er done.

Yes, we have a lame duck President and then a lame President

782 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:08:07pm

AWWWW MAAAANN....Mrs. Desert Dog tells me it's sleepy time.....see you kids later, let's play more tomorrow!

783 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:08:10pm

re: #779 ggt

Several updings from me, but it appears that only one *took*.
Sorry bout that.

784 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:08:11pm

re: #768 Desert Dog

He's doing a great job so far with his Helen Keller impersonation. I think the Arab world might be even more disappointed than the moonbats when "the One" finally coughs up some actual policy. (Of course, I do not expect to be very happy with his decisions either!)


Well according to news reports he is planning a stimulus package by starting with a $300 Billion tax cut... so far things are not so bad, I hope that this is a sign of rational ideas from some in his upcoming administration.
[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]

785 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:09:02pm

re: #773 Alberta Oil Peon
And
re: #775 alteredbeat
You know, I don't mind that you voted for a different blog for consevative blog, but why do you feel the need to state it out here on Charles' blog?
I kinda understand Alberta Oil Peon cause he's Canadian, eh? But even so and I'm sorry to say this, but I think it's in poor taste to say you prefer LGF's competitors ON LGF.

786 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:09:20pm

Senate Democrats put off plans to seat Franken


[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

787 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:09:30pm

re: #783 Wishing

Several updings from me, but it appears that only one *took*.
Sorry bout that.

Thanks!

788 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:09:50pm

re: #784 shanec99

Well according to news reports he is planning a stimulus package by starting with a $300 Billion tax cut... so far things are not so bad, I hope that this is a sign of rational ideas from some in his upcoming administration.
[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com...]

Um, there is some concern that the *tax cut* will be sent to people who actually pay no taxes.
Something seems wrong with that.

789 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:10:10pm

re: #777 Desert Dog

It's not blindness.....it is EGO. He really thinks he can do it by the sheer will of his personality. Man, will be get a lesson in actual reality once he steps into that arena....It will not be pretty.

I apologize for not being clear. I was referring to the author's blindness, not Obama's. However, Obama's campaign rhetoric about sitting down with all parties could place him in the same catagory.

790 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:10:23pm

re: #774 shanec99

The only... surely you jest.
From where I sit, pathologists have been using tissue specimens obtained through biopsy to identify those and various other cancers for years. Have the pathologist ceded all diagnostic work to the radiologists?
Radiology is "sexy" and non invasive procedures are wonderful at reducing nosocomial mortality and morbidity, but let us not marginalize the work pathologists do every day.

Hey, shane99, I was quoting another Lizard's post. I'm a geologist , and I was just commenting on the science-ignorance of the masses who get heart palpitations when the word "nuclear" is uttered.

791 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:10:43pm

re: #787 ggt

Thanks!

No, thank YOU! Great post.

792 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:10:44pm

re: #788 Wishing

Um, there is some concern that the *tax cut* will be sent to people who actually pay no taxes.
Something seems wrong with that.

Can you say R E D I S T R I B U T I O N ?

793 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:11:05pm

re: #712 karmic_inquisitor
Yes, well, maybe but at least Al Franken wouldn't be HERE!

794 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:11:28pm

re: #785 realwest

And
re: #775 alteredbeat
You know, I don't mind that you voted for a different blog for consevative blog, but why do you feel the need to state it out here on Charles' blog?
I kinda understand Alberta Oil Peon cause he's Canadian, eh? But even so and I'm sorry to say this, but I think it's in poor taste to say you prefer LGF's competitors ON LGF.


Real West... in my book you are the man... but don't make a big deal because a fellow is being honest. This is one we can ignore... kind of like ..."nothing to see here... move along."

795 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:11:34pm

re: #792 ggt

Can you say R E D I S T R I B U T I O N ?

NO.

lol

796 Salem  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:13:22pm

Hmmm, tomorrow is some Islamic holiday called Ashurah. Watch out.

797 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:13:34pm

re: #788 Wishing

Um, there is some concern that the *tax cut* will be sent to people who actually pay no taxes.
Something seems wrong with that.


No this is a tax cut... taxes are being reduced... but some people (the groups he prefers will be getting the bigger break), but everyone will benefit.
I wont complain about a tax cut ever.

798 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:13:50pm

I was hoping for an open thread, so I could show you 2nd amendment enthusiasts my new toy!
Tapping foot...Charles?

799 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:14:54pm

re: #786 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - did you read where the Dems ARE GOING TO NOT ALLOW Burris to take his Senate seat? Don't have the link handy (damn it) but he's flying to Washington D.C. tomorrow I think and Reid said today that he won't allow Burris on the Senate floor!
And two Black congressman from Illinois - both Dems, natch - said that the Democratic Controlled Senate is looking like a Plantation! Burris says he refuses to inject race into the issue, but apparently he has supporters and they sure as hell are!

800 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:15:19pm

re: #798 Wishing

I was hoping for an open thread, so I could show you 2nd amendment enthusiasts my new toy!
Tapping foot...Charles?

Does it go brrrrrrrrrrrrr, when it stops?...:)

801 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:16:02pm

re: #790 Alberta Oil Peon

Hey, shane99, I was quoting another Lizard's post. I'm a geologist , and I was just commenting on the science-ignorance of the masses who get heart palpitations when the word "nuclear" is uttered.


Point taken... thanks for the clarification.

802 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:16:37pm

re: #796 Salem

Hmmm, tomorrow is some Islamic holiday called Ashurah. Watch out.

The 421st holiest day on the Islamic calendar.

803 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:16:39pm

re: #799 realwest

Hey Dusty - did you read where the Dems ARE GOING TO NOT ALLOW Burris to take his Senate seat? Don't have the link handy (damn it) but he's flying to Washington D.C. tomorrow I think and Reid said today that he won't allow Burris on the Senate floor!
And two Black congressman from Illinois - both Dems, natch - said that the Democratic Controlled Senate is looking like a Plantation! Burris says he refuses to inject race into the issue, but apparently he has supporters and they sure as hell are!

Ya, know, Illinois Politics is the gift that just keeps on giving.

804 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:17:19pm

re: #785 realwest

And
re: #775 alteredbeat
You know, I don't mind that you voted for a different blog for consevative blog, but why do you feel the need to state it out here on Charles' blog?
I kinda understand Alberta Oil Peon cause he's Canadian, eh? But even so and I'm sorry to say this, but I think it's in poor taste to say you prefer LGF's competitors ON LGF.

Sheesh, RW. I like both. Do I have to have a favorite? I spend more time here, because LGF has a lot more of everything. But in terms of quality of the presenter, SDA is very damn close, and a little more relevant to me as a Canuck. Like I said, tomorrow's vote goes to LGF. One had to be first, it's a coin toss. Both blogs should be on your daily reading list. Sometimes they mirror each other, sometimes they each focus on different themes, and rarely, they take contrary tacks. Charles and Kate are both independent thinkers, so that is to be expected.

805 Salem  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:17:20pm

re: #796 Salem

Hmmm, tomorrow is some Islamic holiday called Ashurah. Watch out.

Oh, that's the day they flog themselves, innit?

806 Opilio  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:17:52pm

re: #790 Alberta Oil Peon

Hey, shane99, I was quoting another Lizard's post. I'm a geologist , and I was just commenting on the science-ignorance of the masses who get heart palpitations when the word "nuclear" is uttered.

I consider myself science-literate, and I get heartburn when the word "nucular" is uttered.

807 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:18:01pm

re: #794 shanec99
I said I didn't mind if he voted for some other blog, but to come over here and say so is in poor taste. It's sorta like going to two dinner parties and at the second one telling your host that the first dinner party was better.

808 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:18:43pm

re: #799 realwest

Hey Dusty - did you read where the Dems ARE GOING TO NOT ALLOW Burris to take his Senate seat? Don't have the link handy (damn it) but he's flying to Washington D.C. tomorrow I think and Reid said today that he won't allow Burris on the Senate floor!
And two Black congressman from Illinois - both Dems, natch - said that the Democratic Controlled Senate is looking like a Plantation! Burris says he refuses to inject race into the issue, but apparently he has supporters and they sure as hell are!

Umm, no last thing I read today was that The Secretary of State for the State of Illinois, refused to sign the document needed to seat Burris, and baised on that he would not be seated.

809 Salem  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:19:31pm

re: #802 Shiplord Kirel

The 421st holiest day on the Islamic calendar.

Oh, well that probably doesn't merit a call-in, then.

810 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:20:04pm

re: #796 Salem

Hmmm, tomorrow is some Islamic holiday called Ashurah. Watch out.


I was in Iraq during Ashurah in 06, the beat themselves with whips until they bleed. It is an observation to mark the memory of the beheading of Iman Ali (whose followers became Shiites) by the Caliph (whose followers became Sunni).
It is a lot of noise, whippings and eating... not much more.

811 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:20:12pm

re: #803 ggt
I thought Reid was from Nevada?
;').
Actually in a bizarre fashion it's the Democratic Party that is the gift that keeps on giving.
Just wish they weren't doing a LOT of that giving with our tax dollars.

812 Joan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:20:51pm

re: #353 Slumbering Behemoth

I am with you. If I may repost my face palm... :facepalm:

Hmm. What would it cost to get a "doubleding" option. Multiple strong updings to you superb falmpace moment

813 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:22:57pm

re: #805 Salem

Oh, that's the day they flog themselves, innit?


Yep, they flog themselves until they bleed because one Muslim ordered the death of another.
Iman Ali... the fellow who was beheaded was Mohammed's grand son if I remember correctly.
Strange religion.

814 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:23:08pm

re: #804 Alberta Oil Peon
Please see my #807. Of course you can like both and since you're a Canadian I'd be surprised if you didn't "lean" towards a Canadian blogger; just don't think you should say that on Charles' Blog.

815 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:23:21pm

re: #810 shanec99

It is a lot of noise, whippings and eating... not much more.

Like some NFL Sundays?

816 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:23:29pm

re: #807 realwest

I said I didn't mind if he voted for some other blog, but to come over here and say so is in poor taste. It's sorta like going to two dinner parties and at the second one telling your host that the first dinner party was better.

RW: we (the unwashed masses) get one vote per day in this bun-fest, at least so I'm given to understand. As it happens, I logged into SDA first, found the link to the voting, and voted for SDA, today. Tomorrow, it's LGF's turn in the barrel. And no, I won't vote for Atlas the next day.

817 Racer X  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:23:34pm
818 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:23:39pm

Franken Win Certified, but Senate Will Delay Seating

819 gmsc  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:23:51pm

re: #353 Slumbering Behemoth

I am with you. If I may repost my face palm... :facepalm:

My favorite version of that poster is this version.

It is somewhat specifically geared to Next Generation Trek fans, however.

820 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:24:10pm

re: #806 Opilio

I consider myself science-literate, and I get heartburn when the word "nucular" is uttered.


Heh heh... come on stop beating up on Texans.

821 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:24:28pm

re: #808 Dustyvet

Umm, no last thing I read today was that The Secretary of State for the State of Illinois, refused to sign the document needed to seat Burris, and baised on that he would not be seated.

It's not legal if Jesse White, our Sec of State, doesn't sign-off on it. So, techincally he isn't the new junior senator from Illinois.

822 gmsc  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:24:37pm

re: #817 Racer X

ROFLMAO!

The "sentence predictor" is the funniest part - you can almost picture Apple developing that feature.

823 Syrah  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:24:37pm

re: #818 Dustyvet

Franken Win Certified, but Senate Will Delay Seating

heh.

Cheating seems to work for them.

824 Salem  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:25:00pm

re: #810 shanec99

I was in Iraq during Ashurah in 06, the beat themselves with whips until they bleed. It is an observation to mark the memory of the beheading of Iman Ali (whose followers became Shiites) by the Caliph (whose followers became Sunni).
It is a lot of noise, whippings and eating... not much more.

That is reassuring, although there is something about holidays that seems to bring out a powerful bloodlust in some of those folks. They're like drunks that way. "Groundhog Day? This calls for a celebration!"

825 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:25:01pm

re: #815 solomonpanting

Like some NFL Sundays?


Nope, a lot bloodier, but you have the idea.

826 Steffan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:25:15pm

Things could get entertaining tomorrow when Congress reconvenes.

Democrats' Factions Could Stall Grand Plans

These times are very different from 1933, when the 73rd Congress enacted 16 major laws during Mr. Roosevelt's First 100 Days. Today's economy, for all its struggles, doesn't remotely resemble the turmoil of the Great Depression, with its 25% unemployment. Also, the public's appetite for broad change isn't yet clear.

None of this is deterring the Democrats. Like the Congress of 76 years ago, they are converging on Washington with a popular new president, significant congressional majorities and, perhaps most important, a shaken public eager for government to try something new.

However.....

What's to stop the Democrats? There are serious obstacles, starting with the party itself, which is hardly unified. Some Democratic congressional factions, like the more-conservative Blue Dogs, are deeply suspicious of expanded federal spending. Democrats from old industrial states worry that colleagues from California want to be too hard on the auto industry. Coal-state Democrats fear the party's environmental wing will go too far with efforts to clamp down on fossil fuels.

Republicans, meanwhile, have made it clear they won't simply accept whatever Democrats propose, unlike in Mr. Roosevelt's day. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, joined by House Minority Leader John Boehner, recently issued a statement demanding "the consideration of alternative ideas, public congressional hearings and transparency -- not a rushed, partisan take-it-or-leave-it approach."

Here's the real problem:

But even if Democrats get virtually everything they want in the new Congress, it wouldn't amount to a "new New Deal." Instead, historians say the Democrats are really looking to revive and extend the fundamental approach behind Mr. Roosevelt's program, much as President Lyndon Johnson did in 1965 with programs like Medicare and Head Start.

In his book Liberal Fascism, Jonah Goldberg calls the New Deal and the Great Society the second and third "fascist moments" in US history. Nanny-statism, in other words, what Mussolini originally meant when he coined the word "totalitarian." Everything in the state, nothing outside the state, cradle-to-grave control.

We'll have to watch and see.... though the Blago/Burris deal promises to be fun. I have extra popcorn.

827 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:25:43pm

While Blagojevich has signed formal appointments papers, Jesse White, the Illinois secretary of state, has not, and Senate rules require that signature.

Burris, in turn, has gone to court hoping to win an order for White to sign the necessary paperwork, and has also threatened to sue to take his seat in the Senate

828 Cheechako  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:26:06pm

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By righting want too pleas.

829 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:26:15pm

re: #808 Dustyvet
Well I read that Reid said Burris' paperwork wasn't completed so he wouldn't seat himp; but yesterday or the day before he said there were good constitutional grounds for not seating him. Regrettably Harry didn't know what they were or at least couldn't explain them.
But the comments by the two black members of the House, about the Plantation, were made today.

830 Racer X  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:26:15pm

re: #822 gmsc

The "sentence predictor" is the funniest part - you can almost picture Apple developing that feature.

No, the funniest part was the guy saying "I'll buy anything shiny and made by Apple".

LOL!

831 stevieray  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:26:18pm

re: #822 gmsc

The "sentence predictor" is the funniest part - you can almost picture Apple developing that feature.

"I'll buy anything shiny that comes from Apple!"

832 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:27:18pm

re: #817 Racer X

ROFLMAO!

That is a hoot, especially reading the "menus" that pop up on-screen in the demo.

833 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:27:19pm

re: #821 ggt

It's not legal if Jesse White, our Sec of State, doesn't sign-off on it. So, techincally he isn't the new junior senator from Illinois.

I also heard that the Dems are refusing to seat because White, SoS, won't sign off on it. And so far, White ( a black man, BTW) is refusing to budge.

834 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:28:06pm

re: #833 Wishing

I also heard that the Dems are refusing to seat because White, SoS, won't sign off on it. And so far, White ( a black man, BTW) is refusing to budge.

As I understand it, Jesse White is a good guy and he doesn't want ANY political connection to Blagohair.

835 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:28:52pm

re: #829 realwest

Well I read that Reid said Burris' paperwork wasn't completed so he wouldn't seat himp; but yesterday or the day before he said there were good constitutional grounds for not seating him. Regrettably Harry didn't know what they were or at least couldn't explain them.
But the comments by the two black members of the House, about the Plantation, were made today.

I'm trying to find the item i spoke about, I will say that Burris is tainted period!

836 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:29:18pm

re: #834 ggt

As I understand it, Jesse White is a good guy and he doesn't want ANY political connection to Blagohair.

Yup!

837 greginseattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:29:44pm

I would still vote for LGF, but, frankly, it's slipped to 5th or 6th on my favorite blogs list. Charles has every right to do what ever he wants with HIS blog, but all this focus on the evolutions vs. intelligent design really has put me off. The topic simply isn't worth all the attention.

838 Opilio  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:29:50pm

re: #821 ggt

It's not legal if Jesse White, our Sec of State, doesn't sign-off on it. So, techincally he isn't the new junior senator from Illinois.

The old Maytag repairman is the Illinois Secretary of State !?!

Who knew?

/R.I.P. Jesse White, 1917-1997

839 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:29:52pm

re: #827 Dustyvet
Has Jesse White stated why he won't sign the papers? Cause from where I sit, Blago is still the Govenor of Illinois - he hasn't been indicted, arrested or impeached yet and, apparently under relevant law, the Govenor does have the right to appoint somone to take Obama's seat until, I think, 2010.

840 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:30:00pm

re: #822 gmsc

The "sentence predictor" is the funniest part - you can almost picture Apple developing that feature.

I love the teaser at the end... "The Suduko killer, will kill 2,4 or 9 victims next."

841 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:30:45pm

re: #824 Salem

That is reassuring, although there is something about holidays that seems to bring out a powerful bloodlust in some of those folks. They're like drunks that way. "Groundhog Day? This calls for a celebration!"


Well the fast, walk down the street and beat themselves, then after sunset they eat like pigs and dance. I didn't see much more, and most of what I saw was on TV and the Iraqi interpreter filled in the spots I could not understand.

842 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:30:53pm

re: #838 Opilio

The old Maytag repairman is the Illinois Secretary of State !?!

Who knew?

/R.I.P. Jesse White, 1917-1997

Well another keyboard just bit the dust...

843 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:32:03pm

re: #834 ggt

As I understand it, Jesse White is a good guy and he doesn't want ANY political connection to Blagohair.

He said, The guy just got out of jail, there may be an indictment and we ALL decided that we would not sign off on anyone he appointed.

844 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:33:36pm

Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., called the Senate "last bastion of plantation politics," and said blacks had been "excluded systematically for too long."

845 Joan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:34:39pm

re: #779 ggt

Or maybe a conservative is someone who applies common sense, believes in cause and effect, respects individual liberty and responsibility, looks for truth, rather than validation.

or not.

846 Steffan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:35:11pm

re: #829 realwest

Well I read that Reid said Burris' paperwork wasn't completed so he wouldn't seat himp; but yesterday or the day before he said there were good constitutional grounds for not seating him. Regrettably Harry didn't know what they were or at least couldn't explain them.
But the comments by the two black members of the House, about the Plantation, were made today.

Three words: Adam Clayton Powell. The House tried to bar him; the SCOTUS ruled that they had to seat him. That's the legal precedent Burris is claiming, and he just might be right.

Harry doesn't necessarily have the legal grounds to bar Burris. They can seat him and then expel him, but that vote would be disastrous for the Dems. My advice is to make a lot of popcorn.

847 alteredbeat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:35:17pm

re: #807 realwest

From a quick scan of the first 100 comments to this thread, half the people are suprised/miffed that LGF was even named a conservative blog and the other half are showing a clear bias against Atlas (small exaggeration). So I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in and say that I did indeed vote for a conservative blog for best conservative blog and it wasn't Atlas.

848 Opilio  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:36:19pm

re: #837 greginseattle

I would still vote for LGF, but, frankly, it's slipped to 5th or 6th on my favorite blogs list. Charles has every right to do what ever he wants with HIS blog, but all this focus on the evolutions vs. intelligent design really has put me off. The topic simply isn't worth all the attention.

All what focus? All what attention? Maybe every 20th post. Probably less. That means at least 19 out of 20 are about something else.

849 Steffan  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:36:20pm

re: #844 Dustyvet

Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., called the Senate "last bastion of plantation politics," and said blacks had been "excluded systematically for too long."

He's a former Black Panther. We really can't call him an unbiased observer.

/

850 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:37:06pm

re: #839 realwest

Has Jesse White stated why he won't sign the papers? Cause from where I sit, Blago is still the Govenor of Illinois - he hasn't been indicted, arrested or impeached yet and, apparently under relevant law, the Govenor does have the right to appoint somone to take Obama's seat until, I think, 2010.

White has declined to sign the certificate, siding with some Senate Democrats who say Burris should not be seated because of the cloud over Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who is accused of trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama's Senate seat.

851 Racer X  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:37:21pm

re: #844 Dustyvet

Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., called the Senate "last bastion of plantation politics," and said blacks had been "excluded systematically for too long."

The dems are going to implode - just watch as they seat Al Franken and reject Burris.

Racism!

852 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:37:53pm

re: #844 Dustyvet
Yup, that's the guy who made that quote but I read that another Black Congressman was "Upset" that Burris wasn't being seated and said he thought it was cause Burris is Black.

853 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:38:12pm

re: #850 Dustyvet

White has declined to sign the certificate, siding with some Senate Democrats who say Burris should not be seated because of the cloud over Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who is accused of trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama's Senate seat.

Secretary of the Senate Nancy Erickson has rejected Roland Burris' appointment to the Senate, an aide to the secretary told CNN.

Erickson rejected Burris' appointment because his certificate of appointment was missing the signature of Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White, the aide said Monday.

Rule 2 of the Standing Rules of the Senate states that the secretary of state must sign the certificate of election along with the governor.

854 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:38:42pm

re: #845 Joan

Or maybe a conservative is someone who applies common sense, believes in cause and effect, respects individual liberty and responsibility, looks for truth, rather than validation.

or not.

I like PJ O'Rourke's (IIRC) definition:

"A conservative is someone who has something to conserve."

855 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:39:07pm

Here is what Ashura is according to religion facts... [Link: www.religionfacts.com...]

So avoid mosques, especially Shiite mosques during this period... worshippers starve themsevels, then they cut themselves and beat themselves because Mohammed's grandson had his head cut off by other Muslims. If I had to do that to myself every year... well... good grief.

When Jewish-Muslim relations became strained, however, Muhammad designated Ramadan the Muslim month of fasting, making Ashura a voluntary fast, as it has remained among Sunnis.

Among Shi'ites, however, Ashura is a major festival, the tazia (ta'ziyah). It commemorates the death of Husayn (also spelled Hussein), son of Imam 'Ali and grandson of Muhammad, on the 10th of Muharram, AH 61 (October 10, 680), in Karbala, Iraq. The event led to the split between the Sunni and Shia sects of Islam, and it is of central importance in Shia Islam.

For Shi'a Muslims, rituals and observances on Ashura consist primarily of public expressions of mourning and grief. Some Shi'as express mourning by flagellating themselves on the back with chains, beating their head or ritually cutting themselves. This is intended to connect them with Husayn's suffering and death as an aid to salvation on the Day of Judgment.

856 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:40:09pm

weet dreams all!

857 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:40:11pm

re: #843 Wishing
Did Jesse White say " we ALL decided" - and if so, who are the others in that "we"?
Do you know?

858 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:40:35pm

All what focus? All what attention? Maybe every 20th post. Probably less. That means at least 19 out of 20 are about something else.

I haven't done a scientific study, but it seems that every time I visit, there's an evolution/ID story in the latest 10 posts. I love the the quick links, however.

859 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:40:48pm

re: #856 ggt
Goodnight ggt - weet dreams to you too.

860 Racer X  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:40:56pm

re: #852 realwest

Yup, that's the guy who made that quote but I read that another Black Congressman was "Upset" that Burris wasn't being seated and said he thought it was cause Burris is Black.

I think I saw the guy you are thinking of on Fox. Cavuto asked him if Blago's appointee had been white would he still support him? He answered "yes". I just about busted up laughing. The look on his face was clearly "Hell No!".

861 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:41:40pm

I am starting to feel sorry for Dems. Hillary had the nomination stolen by obama thugs and their friends, Hillary took it and did NOTHING to cry *Foul!* when her supporters went to bat to try and stop the thievery; they elect Obama who will ascend the throne in the midst of a VERY dark cloud and swirling question marks and Clinton retreads, they elect a Dem Congress and Senate, all of whom seem hell-bent on stopping a black man from taking Obama's senate seat.
Yep, will load up on popcorn.

862 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:41:51pm

re: #844 Dustyvet

Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., called the Senate "last bastion of plantation politics," and said blacks had been "excluded systematically for too long."

Bobby Rush is an ex-Black Panther asshole. He is an inarticulate thug, whose main qualification is his ethnicity. In other words: He's the model of a Chicago politician.

863 TheMatrix31  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:41:53pm

re: #738 Killian Bundy

Mayor Villaraigosa throws support behind Israel

/pretty gutsy for a California politician

Heard the quote hile listening to Hewitt on the way back from school today, and I said out loud, "That's the first time I've agreed with you, Mayor Raigosa".

What a shock, seriously.

864 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:43:05pm

re: #851 Racer X

The dems are going to implode - just watch as they seat Al Franken and reject Burris.

Racism!

From what I have been reading, they re not going to seat Frankin either.

865 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:44:05pm

re: #857 realwest

Did Jesse White say " we ALL decided" - and if so, who are the others in that "we"?
Do you know?

I dont recall the whole statement, but he mentioned other state officials, and I think also congressional peeps. But I honestly cant say ...I dont think he named names, just positions.

866 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:44:11pm

re: #848 Opilio

I just did a count. The 10th post back was about evolution/ID.

867 Racer X  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:44:19pm

Can you imagine the outrage if a Republican governor was in the same situation as Blago? There would be total outrage all over the media. The left would be wetting themselves.

Oh well, at least it pulls attention away from Gov. Richardson.

868 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:44:33pm

re: #864 Dustyvet

From what I have been reading, they re not going to seat Frankin either.

/that's because he hasn't been certified yet and won't be until Coleman's election contest is resolved

869 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:44:48pm

re: #858 GregInSeattle

All what focus? All what attention? Maybe every 20th post. Probably less. That means at least 19 out of 20 are about something else.

I haven't done a scientific study, but it seems that every time I visit, there's an evolution/ID story in the latest 10 posts. I love the the quick links, however.


Yeah, it seems that Charles is concerned that we don't allow religious dogma to crowd the space generally reserved for scientific exploration... and he is doing his best to ensure that funding for science education and scientific research is not hampered by religious baggage.
I don't see why his efforts are so bad.

870 Racer X  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:45:12pm

re: #863 TheMatrix31

Heard the quote hile listening to Hewitt on the way back from school today, and I said out loud, "That's the first time I've agreed with you, Mayor Raigosa".

What a shock, seriously.

Agreed.

871 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:45:12pm

re: #855 shanec99

"Some Shi'as express mourning by flagellating themselves on the back with chains, beating their head or ritually cutting themselves. This is intended to connect them with Husayn's suffering and death as an aid to salvation on the Day of Judgment."

Too bad they are such wimps about it. If they'd actually self-decapitate, then the sales of my Peonco Chop-a-matic computerized auto-decapititator (with color Webcam) would be a lot better, and I'd be a wealthy Lizard (instead of merely handsome and single).

872 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:45:58pm

re: #866 GregInSeattle

Big whoop. And the last one before that was when? They are at most twice a week. I take it you don't like "tech" threads either. Or open ones.

873 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:46:52pm

re: #818 Dustyvet
Wait a minute! Franken's win was certified (I assume by the Minnesota Secretary of State?) and the Senate STILL won't seat him?

874 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:47:53pm

re: #866 GregInSeattle

I just did a count. The 10th post back was about evolution/ID.

Big shit. 1 in 10 posts are on a subject that you don't like. Well Greg, that's too fucking bad. What fucking nerve, this is Charles' blog, not yours, asshole.

875 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:48:04pm

re: #873 realwest

Wait a minute! Franken's win was certified (I assume by the Minnesota Secretary of State?) and the Senate STILL won't seat him?

Al is singing in a real whiny voice, Nobody loves me, everybody hates me...

876 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:48:13pm

re: #871 Alberta Oil Peon

"Some Shi'as express mourning by flagellating themselves on the back with chains, beating their head or ritually cutting themselves. This is intended to connect them with Husayn's suffering and death as an aid to salvation on the Day of Judgment."

Too bad they are such wimps about it. If they'd actually self-decapitate, then the sales of my Peonco Chop-a-matic computerized auto-decapititator (with color Webcam) would be a lot better, and I'd be a wealthy Lizard (instead of merely handsome and single).

Bro, it gets pretty bloody, if you see the TV images of what they do to themseves. They are some pretty extreme worshippers.

877 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:48:31pm

Can you imagine the outrage if a Republican governor was in the same situation as Blago?

Man, oh Man. Today, on page A-2 of the Seattle Times, they had a story saying that Palin had held back the arrest of the Mother of her grandchild's father. The story took up about 1/4 of the page! In that same A section, I looked for but did not find any story about the following:
Rangle (D, NY)
Dodd (D, CT)
Frank (D, MA)
Or an investigation of the Minnesota re-count.

My lib friend tells me it all makes sense.

*Sigh*

God Save the Republic.

878 Racer X  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:48:36pm

re: #868 Killian Bundy

/that's because he hasn't been certified yet and won't be until Coleman's election contest is resolved

How the hell did he lose to Al frikkin Franklin?

879 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:48:42pm

re: #873 realwest

Wait a minute! Franken's win was certified (I assume by the Minnesota Secretary of State?) and the Senate STILL won't seat him?

They certified the recount.

/the loser still gets seven days to contest the results in court, Coleman will file tomorrow

880 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:48:53pm

re: #876 shanec99

Bro, it gets pretty bloody, if you see the TV images of what they do to themseves. They are some pretty extreme death worshippers.

Fixt.

881 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:48:54pm

re: #873 realwest

Wait a minute! Franken's win was certified (I assume by the Minnesota Secretary of State?) and the Senate STILL won't seat him?

It appears that's what's going to happen.

882 esch  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:49:32pm

re: #873 realwest

Yep. They're cowards. I love it.

883 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:50:34pm

re: #874 Walter L. Newton

I said that it was his blog up front, troglodyte.

Hero worship isn't good, even of your favorite blogger.

884 alteredbeat  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:50:52pm

re: #872 BlueCanuck

Big whoop. And the last one before that was when? They are at most twice a week. I take it you don't like "tech" threads either. Or open ones.


It's true, the evolution threads are easy to ignore, along with the tech threads, and the You tube music vid threads, and the "VB is teh fascist!1" threads. That's a lot of ignoring though, which pretty much explains why American Thinker got my vote this year. :-)

885 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:50:54pm

re: #876 shanec99

Bro, it gets pretty bloody, if you see the TV images of what they do to themseves. They are some pretty extreme worshippers.

I have seen pictures, shane; posted right here, as a matter of fact. What can a guy do, but respond with some gallows humor? That shit is quite beyond the bounds of civilized behavior.

886 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:52:03pm

re: #882 esch

Yep. They're cowards. I love it.

Franken certified winner of Minn. Senate race; Coleman plans challenge

887 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:52:47pm

re: #861 Wishing
Well frankly I don't feel sorry for the Dems, anymore that I feel sorry for Paxico Burris - the star wide receiver for the NY Giants - who shot himself in the thigh. And for the same reason: the Dems have shot themselves.
And I think that's because the Dem's are now the far Left wing of this country - just wait until the govenors of I don't know how many states come to Washington to "bail them out" of their budget deficits and the UAW says "Hey, no fair we were here first!"

888 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:54:33pm

re: #887 realwest

Well frankly I don't feel sorry for the Dems, anymore that I feel sorry for Paxico Burris - the star wide receiver for the NY Giants - who shot himself in the thigh. And for the same reason: the Dems have shot themselves.
And I think that's because the Dem's are now the far Left wing of this country - just wait until the govenors of I don't know how many states come to Washington to "bail them out" of their budget deficits and the UAW says "Hey, no fair we were here first!"

Blue collar/white collar wars? In DC?
Buying stock in Orville Reddenbacher.

889 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:54:51pm

re: #879 Killian Bundy
Ah, thanks.

890 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:56:16pm

Pepsico Burris? Isnt he the guy they named to replace the Zero?
oops...no, that was Jesse James Burris. Sorry.

891 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:56:24pm

re: #885 Alberta Oil Peon

I have seen pictures, shane; posted right here, as a matter of fact. What can a guy do, but respond with some gallows humor? That shit is quite beyond the bounds of civilized behavior.


This is a religion whose most esteemed prophet:
when he was in his 40s slept with a nine year old,
whose grandson had his head decapitated by his followers,
that celebrates by cutting and beating themselves until they are bloody.

And we are surprised when they strap bombs to kids and send them to kill other kids, or fly planes into buildings.

Why are we surprised?

892 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:56:55pm

Dems give me Migranes...

893 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:57:01pm

re: #878 Racer X

How the hell did he lose to Al frikkin Franklin?

Multiple recounts done with selectively chosen ballots; the same tactics that won Governor Gregoire of WA her seat in 2004.

894 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:57:02pm

re: #886 Dustyvet

Franken certified winner of Minn. Senate race recount; Coleman plans challenge

Fixed that for ya.

/he doesn't become a Senator until Pawlenty issues the final certification, which won't be until all the legal challenges are over

895 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:57:36pm

re: #894 Killian Bundy

Fixed that for ya.

/he doesn't become a Senator until Pawlenty issues the final certification, which won't be until all the legal challenges are over

WHEW.

896 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:58:28pm

re: #895 Wishing

WHEW.

But will he establish the Office of Senator-Elect?

897 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:58:37pm

re: #867 Racer X
Yeah, can you imagine how pissed off at Richardson Obama must be right about now?! LOL!
Not to mention whomever Obama had "vetting" Richardson!

898 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:59:06pm

re: #886 Dustyvet

Franken certified winner of Minn. Senate race; Coleman plans challenge

Good luck, it didn't work for Dino Rossi in 2004.

899 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:59:51pm

re: #898 FurryOldGuyJeans

Good luck, it didn't work for Dino Rossi in 2004.

It's not my idea...

900 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:59:54pm

re: #891 shanec99

This is a religion whose most esteemed prophet:
when he was in his 40s slept with a nine year old,
whose grandson had his head decapitated by his followers,
that celebrates by cutting and beating themselves until they are bloody.

And we are surprised when they strap bombs to kids and send them to kill other kids, or fly planes into buildings.

Why are we surprised?

The only thing that surprises, and saddens me, is that we in the West are so damn slow to see the obvious. (present company excepted)

901 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 10:59:56pm

re: #837 greginseattle

I would still vote for LGF, but, frankly, it's slipped to 5th or 6th on my favorite blogs list. Charles has every right to do what ever he wants with HIS blog, but all this focus on the evolutions vs. intelligent design really has put me off. The topic simply isn't worth all the attention.

The ongoing attempt by some sectarians to legislate the forced indoctrination of other peoples' children in their pet religious dogmas is eminently worth all the attention that Charles has focused on it.

902 traderjoe9  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:00:20pm

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Hamas has set up an independent hospital in the Gaza Strip to treat its operatives wounded in fighting with the IDF - and, according to Israeli estimates, it is pilfering a significant portion of the medicine allowed into the strip, senior defense officials told The Jerusalem Post on Monday.

903 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:00:42pm

re: #898 FurryOldGuyJeans

Good luck, it didn't work for Dino Rossi in 2004.

I think there were a large number of absentee votes that were *disallowed* and never counted at all that Coleman plans to have brought to the court to see if he can get them counted for the first time.

904 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:00:58pm

re: #897 realwest

Yeah, can you imagine how pissed off at Richardson Obama must be right about now?! LOL!
Not to mention whomever Obama had "vetting" Richardson!

So far Our Messiah-King has had a lot of scandals erupt, even before He is anointed and crowned. I think we are in for a wild ride after 20 January if skeletons keep being disgorged from His closet. ;)

905 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:01:24pm

Drive by post...tonight I may make history!

Off to sleep. Honest!

Sweet dreams, lizards. G'nite, all!

906 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:02:20pm

re: #899 Dustyvet

It's not my idea...

I wasn't addressing you directly, just making a comment that futility could be near at hand. ;)

907 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:02:24pm

re: #905 NY Nana

Drive by post...tonight I may make history!

Off to sleep. Honest!

Sweet dreams, lizards. G'nite, all!

um, I dare not ask....but is it a Guiness record?

908 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:02:58pm

re: #862 Dark_Falcon
"whose main qualification is his ethnicity. In other words: He's the model of a Chicago politician."
Hmmm, who have I heard the same thing said about recently - around November 4th or 5th I think it was.
Darnit, bad memeory!
/

909 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:03:40pm

re: #904 FurryOldGuyJeans

So far Our Messiah-King has had a lot of scandals erupt, even before He is anointed and crowned. I think we are in for a wild ride after 20 January if skeletons keep being disgorged from His closet. ;)

Wouldn't you love to see a Cox and Forkum cartoon, with skeletons pouring out from the O's closet, through a turnstile, with a bored Secret Service agent saying, "next, next, next..."?

910 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:03:56pm

re: #905 NY Nana

Good night NY Nana, weet dreams.

911 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:03:58pm

re: #906 FurryOldGuyJeans

I wasn't addressing you directly, just making a comment that futility could be near at hand. ;)

Oh, I was about too throw my self on my sword...:)

912 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:04:01pm

re: #903 Wishing

I think there were a large number of absentee votes that were *disallowed* and never counted at all that Coleman plans to have brought to the court to see if he can get them counted for the first time.

Same crap that got Governor Gregoire her seat in 2004. Gotta love the new(?) "count and recount until you pull a victory out of your ass" meme the Dems are heavily steeped in.

913 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:04:49pm

re: #837 greginseattle

The topic simply isn't worth all the attention.

Defending our Constitution is always worth it.

914 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:04:59pm

re: #911 Dustyvet

Oh, I was about too throw my self on my sword...:)

I can make sure it is sharp if you still intend to do so. ;)

915 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:05:01pm

re: #912 FurryOldGuyJeans

Same crap that got Governor Gregoire her seat in 2004. Gotta love the new(?) "count and recount until you pull a victory out of your ass" meme the Dems are heavily steeped in.

I am hoping Colleman wont quit on this...hope he is a terrier and not a cur.

916 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:05:53pm

re: #909 Alberta Oil Peon

Wouldn't you love to see a Cox and Forkum cartoon, with skeletons pouring out from the O's closet, through a turnstile, with a bored Secret Service agent saying, "next, next, next..."?

*SIGH* Cox and Forkum....good times, so long in the past. :(

917 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:06:22pm

I just checked the numbers and LGF is now ahead of Atlas Shrugs. 778 to 654. Hopefully it stays like that so we can throw some votes to Bill Whittle as well.

918 TheMatrix31  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:06:42pm

Wow, I have to say, the Queen of Jordan is gorgeous!

[Link: images.google.com...]

919 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:07:23pm

For any ladies present who mysteriously lose socks...
For Fun.

920 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:07:45pm

re: #915 Wishing

I am hoping Colleman wont quit on this...hope he is a terrier and not a cur.

I certainly hope he doesn't pull a McCain.

921 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:08:52pm

The ongoing attempt by some sectarians to legislate the forced indoctrination of other peoples' children in their pet religious dogmas is eminently worth all the attention that Charles has focused on it.

IF any state said you could only teach creationism and/or I.D. in public schools, I'd be concerned. Have any? Are any even close?

922 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:08:58pm

re: #916 FurryOldGuyJeans

*SIGH* Cox and Forkum....good times, so long in the past. :(

I hope they can find a way to get back together as a team. The next 4 years will be a target-rich environment for them.

923 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:08:59pm

re: #913 Sharmuta

Defending our Constitution is always worth it.

Some people just don't want the hassle of being in the fight, apparently.

924 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:09:52pm
925 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:10:28pm

Defending our Constitution is always worth it.

Are you one of those that want to ban President-elect Obama from saying "So help me God"?

926 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:10:48pm

re: #921 GregInSeattle

The ongoing attempt by some sectarians to legislate the forced indoctrination of other peoples' children in their pet religious dogmas is eminently worth all the attention that Charles has focused on it.

IF any state said you could only teach creationism and/or I.D. in public schools, I'd be concerned. Have any? Are any even close?

People on 9/10 weren't concerned about terrorism; time to wait for the barbarians to get to the gate is long past.

927 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:11:52pm

re: #925 GregInSeattle

Defending our Constitution is always worth it.

Are you one of those that want to ban President-elect Obama from saying "So help me God"?

You haven't a clue about Sharm, apparently, if you try to throw shit like that around.

928 Karridine  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:12:17pm

re: #917 ArchangelMichael

I just checked the numbers and LGF is now ahead of Atlas Shrugs. 778 to 654. Hopefully it stays like that so we can throw some votes to Bill Whittle as well.

I thought about Bill, and his website, and he creates occasional masterworks, deeply moving essays, that are anti-idiotarian and somewhat 'Conservative', but that just isn't enough to make his BLOG a frequented crossroads of dialogue, discussion, assertion and defense and clear argumentation that goes on at, say, LGF or Ace or Michelle's or Baldilock's...

929 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:12:32pm

re: #912 FurryOldGuyJeans
Well it does show why the Dem's are SO against Voter Photo ID cards.*
I'll bet that if all the students in Minnesota who voted for Franken by absentee ballot (cause they went to Mom and Dad's State to vote) were disallowed, Coleman would have won by at least a few thousand votes.
That's partly why I said the Dem Party has now become the Far Left party in this country.

*notice, please, I said Voter Photo ID cards; but that's just to thwart the double voting at college and at home by college students; hell I'd settle for Driver's License Photo ID's, and someway to verify the residence address for voting purposes, of those casting Absentee ballots.

930 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:12:33pm

People on 9/10 weren't concerned about terrorism; time to wait for the barbarians to get to the gate is long past.

We were a lot more religious country in the 1800s. They even taught the bible in the public schools. Somehow, some way, by some miracle, the Republic survived.

931 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:13:42pm

re: #913 Sharmuta

Defending our Constitution is always worth it.

Shar, I love the speed with which you changed your little write up.....

932 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:13:54pm

re: #925 GregInSeattle

Defending our Constitution is always worth it.

Are you one of those that want to ban President-elect Obama from saying "So help me God"?

No. Are you one of those that uses logical fallacies for arguments?

933 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:14:14pm

However, I kinda wonder if the Republic will survive the latest onslaught of the socialists, atheists & appeasers.

934 Karridine  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:14:26pm

re: #921 GregInSeattle

So the terms concepts "thin-entering wedge" and "establishing a beach-head" and "foot in the door" simply have NO MEANING to you, or in any case no NEGATIVE meaning, Greg?

935 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:14:42pm

re: #932 Sharmuta

Good. You may be fairly reasonable after all.

936 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:14:52pm

re: #930 GregInSeattle

Are your eyes naturally brown, or what?

937 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:15:09pm

re: #933 GregInSeattle

However, I kinda wonder if the Republic will survive the latest onslaught of the socialists, atheists & appeasers.

Why should it? Who will defend it when they can't see the enemies on all sides?

938 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:15:15pm

re: #921 GregInSeattle

The ongoing attempt by some sectarians to legislate the forced indoctrination of other peoples' children in their pet religious dogmas is eminently worth all the attention that Charles has focused on it.

IF any state said you could only teach creationism and/or I.D. in public schools, I'd be concerned. Have any? Are any even close?

Many different states, including Pennsylvania, Florida, Kansas, Louisiana, and Texas, have been the targets of Disco Dewde shills pushing to unconstitutionally force the unscientific dogmas of Creationism or its camo bastard stepchild ID to be taught in public high school science classes. This should be of great concern for all US citizens who want genuine science, and only genuine science, to be taught in public high school science classes in America.

Obviously, this is a desire that you do not share.

939 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:15:31pm

re: #930 GregInSeattle

Well, I see some one thought their Karma was a little too high for their liking. Charles blog isn't just about showing what the islamists are like. It's about all sorts of attacks against our freedoms. People trying to subvert all sorts of areas are of important interest to all of us. And that's what Charles does. He's not called an anti-idiotarian for nothing you know.

940 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:15:36pm

re: #934 Karridine

Read history. We're become a lot more secular, and a lot less religious. No worries for you.

941 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:15:42pm

re: #935 GregInSeattle

Good. You may be fairly reasonable after all.

And you sir are full of shit.

942 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:16:11pm

re: #935 GregInSeattle

Good. You may be fairly reasonable after all.

Wow. That was silly of you. Shar is reasonable in anything.

943 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:17:21pm

re: #928 Karridine

I thought about Bill, and his website, and he creates occasional masterworks, deeply moving essays, that are anti-idiotarian and somewhat 'Conservative', but that just isn't enough to make his BLOG a frequented crossroads of dialogue, discussion, assertion and defense and clear argumentation that goes on at, say, LGF or Ace or Michelle's or Baldilock's...

What you say is true. His site is not really a blog and perhaps should not be in the running at all. That being said... it really bothers me that someone of his caliber and intellectual honesty is behind neo-fascists and nirth certifikit troofer douchebags at all, regardless of context. But that's just my opinion.

944 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:18:02pm

re: #930 GregInSeattle
In the 1800's - well, up to 1865, we allowed that slavery was legal, too. What's your point? Things were better in the 1800's cause we taught religion in the public schools?

945 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:18:18pm

re: #942 coquimbojoe

Wow. That was silly of you. Shar is reasonable in anything.

He hasn't clue one about what really goes on here, obviously. He just wants to rant about the Secular and EEEEVILLLLLLLL Darwinists.

946 traderjoe9  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:18:29pm

Good night folks.

God bless the IDF.

947 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:18:35pm

re: #940 GregInSeattle

Read history. We're become a lot more secular, and a lot less religious. No worries for you.

Um, it's not about religion. It's about all sorts of things. Most of the people commenting on this here blog have as many view points as the real world. From neo-paganism all the way to atheism. Believe it or not most of them think that religion doesn't belong in the science class.

948 Karridine  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:19:05pm

re: #943 ArchangelMichael

I concur yr observation, Arch!

/Yes, definitely!

949 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:19:12pm

re: #933 GregInSeattle

However, I kinda wonder if the Republic will survive the latest onslaught of the socialists, atheists & appeasers.

And your big mistake is lumping all atheists into the Left, despite the fact that many true Freethinkers find themselves on the Right, because that is where logic takes them.

And the Left is full of Believers, because if you Believe without thinking, you will believe in anything.

950 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:19:45pm

re: #925 GregInSeattle

Defending our Constitution is always worth it.

Are you one of those that want to ban President-elect Obama from saying "So help me God"?

WTF does that have to do with the ongoing attempt by the Disco Dewdes to force religious indoctrination in their pet unscientific dogmas on other peoples' kids in public high school science classes?

Creationist acolytes; always trying to follow the Disco Dewde Wedge Document instruction to divert the discussion from the presence vs. the absence of empirical evidence to Bad Old Atheists vs. Good Old God.

And I do note that your nick indicates you live in Seattle, the home city of the Disco Dewdes' national office. Coincidence? I wonder; I doubt...

951 Karridine  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:20:31pm

re: #947 BlueCanuck

Do you REALLY think Greg wants to be confused with facts, Blue? Or is his mind already made up?

952 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:21:18pm

It's about all sorts of attacks against our freedoms.

OK, here's my position: Teach science in science class. If someone asks about creationism/ID in biology, tell them that many people believe that, but that doesn't fall into the scientific realm, and this is a science class.

I hardly think mentioning creationism/ID constitutes an attack on any sort of freedom. You don't have the freedom to not be offended.

953 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:21:26pm

re: #932 Sharmuta

No. Are you one of those that uses logical fallacies for arguments?

His profile says he is in Seattle, the same city the DI chose as their HQ.

Coincidence? ;)

954 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:21:37pm

re: #941 FurryOldGuyJeans

From you, that is a high compliment.

955 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:21:38pm

re: #938 Salamantis
Good post Sal, but I go even farther than that: I don't think religion should be taught in public schools AT ALL.

956 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:21:55pm

re: #945 FurryOldGuyJeans

He hasn't clue one about what really goes on here, obviously. He just wants to rant about the Secular and EEEEVILLLLLLLL Darwinists.

He doesn't seem to understand that many of us are very religious. I happen to believe that all truth comes from God. Facts seem to bear out evolution. In my way of thinking, God designed it as such. Am I a Darwinist? I don't know. Lately I've come to think Wallace might have made a better case....

957 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:22:05pm

re: #930 GregInSeattle

People on 9/10 weren't concerned about terrorism; time to wait for the barbarians to get to the gate is long past.

We were a lot more religious country in the 1800s. They even taught the bible in the public schools. Somehow, some way, by some miracle, the Republic survived.

But we were actually much less Biblical Literalist Fundamentalist; that movement caught on in the early part of the 20th century.

958 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:22:48pm

re: #944 realwest

I was simply stating the country is becoming less religious. That was my point.

959 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:22:54pm

re: #949 Alberta Oil Peon

And your big mistake is lumping all atheists into the Left, despite the fact that many true Freethinkers find themselves on the Right, because that is where logic takes them.

And the Left is full of Believers, because if you Believe without thinking, you will believe in anything.

It seems it's difficult for some to grasp that conservatism does not equal fundamentalist Christian.

960 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:23:06pm

re: #951 Karridine

Do you REALLY think Greg wants to be confused with facts, Blue? Or is his mind already made up?

Ironic, ain't it, Karridine, that Greg bemoans the time "wasted" on I.D. threads, and yet this thread is evolving into one, courtesy of his trolling?

961 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:23:28pm

re: #954 GregInSeattle

I'm glad I could puff up one so devoid.

962 FlagPony  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:23:58pm

breaking news flash............ after hearing about the heated debate in this thread .... an old friend has a question for all of us here

963 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:24:42pm

re: #933 GregInSeattle

However, I kinda wonder if the Republic will survive the latest onslaught of the socialists, atheists & appeasers.

Calling those who accept the vast and massive reams of evidence proffered by empirical science nasty names is the defining mark of argumentatively paraplegic creationists (not a logical leg to stand on).

964 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:24:43pm

re: #952 GregInSeattle

I hardly think mentioning creationism/ID constitutes an attack on any sort of freedom. You don't have the freedom to not be offended.

Then you have not been paying attention.

965 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:25:20pm

re: #960 Alberta Oil Peon

Ironic, ain't it, Karridine, that Greg bemoans the time "wasted" on I.D. threads, and yet this thread is evolving into one, courtesy of his trolling?

Trolls always love to hijack threads to feed their insatiable appetite for chaos.

966 Karridine  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:25:25pm

re: #960 Alberta Oil Peon

O Irony, thy name is Greg...

/a real grin, contemplating THAT irony, Oil... :D

967 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:25:42pm

We have a broad constitution and it takes all of us being alert to all the dangers lurking out there: ID is one of the dangers. I will agree that it SEEMS to be a small threat, based on the history of the US, but it is a threat and at least we know of one party (LGF) that is paying it due diligence.
The beauty of the blogosphere is that due diligence is paid on a myriad of subjects and threats.

968 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:26:03pm

re: #964 Sharmuta

Then you have not been paying attention.

That is painfully obvious. ;)

969 shanec99  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:26:53pm

Gotta go guys... this is getting too heavy...
Gotta go work out.

970 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:27:00pm

re: #884 alteredbeat

It's true, the evolution threads are easy to ignore, along with the tech threads, and the You tube music vid threads, and the "VB is teh fascist!1" threads. That's a lot of ignoring though, which pretty much explains why American Thinker got my vote this year. :-)

If you don't like the content of LGF why do you bother to visit here?

971 realwest  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:27:23pm

Well all y'all I gotta go to sleep - possibly a very big day for me tomorrow - ah, later today!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

972 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:28:02pm

re: #971 realwest

Well all y'all I gotta go to sleep - possibly a very big day for me tomorrow - ah, later today!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Sleep well, friend! Good luck tomorrow!

973 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:28:05pm

re: #971 realwest

Well all y'all I gotta go to sleep - possibly a very big day for me tomorrow - ah, later today!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Nighters west...

974 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:28:26pm

re: #963 Salamantis

Who did I call a nasty name? I called the one guy a troglodyte since he hurled profanity at me.

975 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:29:10pm

re: #969 shanec99

Gotta go guys... this is getting too heavy...
Gotta go work out.

See you, Shane. Take care. Go easy on the 12-oz. one-handed curls. I've got them covered. ;>)

976 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:29:38pm

re: #940 GregInSeattle

Read history. We're become a lot more secular, and a lot less religious. No worries for you.

Is your definition of 'more secular' the fact that the dogma that God created the Universe, the Earth, and every one of millions of existent and extinct species independently and as is in the space of six days a few thousand years ago is not being taught in public high school classes as authentic empirical science?

977 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:29:55pm

re: #975 Alberta Oil Peon

See you, Shane. Take care. Go easy on the 12-oz. one-handed curls. I've got them covered. ;>)

Interesting fact: They get lighter every time you lift them.

978 Outrider  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:30:01pm

re: #846 Steffan

Three words: Adam Clayton Powell. The House tried to bar him; the SCOTUS ruled that they had to seat him. That's the legal precedent Burris is claiming, and he just might be right.

Harry doesn't necessarily have the legal grounds to bar Burris. They can seat him and then expel him, but that vote would be disastrous for the Dems. My advice is to make a lot of popcorn.

and we all know how the Adam Clayton Powell thing worked out. ;-)>

979 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:30:41pm

I don't believe in troglodytes. Adam and Eve never lived in a cave! /////////

980 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:30:59pm

Night realwest. Hope your day goes well. Weet dreams.

981 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:31:33pm

re: #977 coquimbojoe

Interesting fact: They get lighter every time you lift them.

That's just subjective, caused by your arm muscles getting progressively stronger. LOL.

982 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:31:57pm

Weet dreams all, my computers giving me fits....

983 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:32:02pm

re: #979 Sharmuta

I don't believe in troglodytes. Adam and Eve never lived in a cave! /////////

Well, I do tend to have my knuckles drag a lot, so.... ;)

984 GregInSeattle  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:32:17pm

Well, I was inadvertently a troll. It all started when that one guy hurled the "f" word at me. It's hard work keeping up when you're blog-swarmed.

For the record, before I go:

1) I'm a Christian
2) I believe God used evolution
3) I believe only teaching science in science classes (I have a BSCE)
4) I believe you can MENTION creationism/ID in science class, but only to dismiss it
5) Some of y'all ain't so sweet, and give no benefit of the doubt.

985 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:32:19pm

re: #982 Dustyvet

Weet dreams all, my computers giving me fits....

Sprinkle Dilantin on keyboard?

986 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:33:03pm

re: #985 Wishing

Sprinkle Dilantin on keyboard?

Nope it keeps locking up

987 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:33:27pm

re: #985 Wishing

Sprinkle Dilantin on keyboard?

No, you have to use a USB port these days.

988 Opilio  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:33:41pm

re: #979 Sharmuta

I don't believe in troglodytes. Adam and Eve never lived in a cave! /////////

How 'bout trilobites? I believe in trilobites.

989 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:33:57pm

re: #986 Dustyvet

Nope it keeps locking up

Again Weet dreams all...:)

990 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:34:00pm

re: #986 Dustyvet

Nope it keeps locking up

Sorry, I forgot the / tag.
Reboot in the am, a good night's sleep will do you both some good!

991 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:34:45pm

re: #984 GregInSeattle

Well, I was inadvertently a troll. It all started when that one guy hurled the "f" word at me. It's hard work keeping up when you're blog-swarmed.

For the record, before I go:

1) I'm a Christian
2) I believe God used evolution
3) I believe only teaching science in science classes (I have a BSCE)
4) I believe you can MENTION creationism/ID in science class, but only to dismiss it
5) Some of y'all ain't so sweet, and give no benefit of the doubt.

For the record, Greg, I can't take issue with you on any of those, except perhaps #5 came about by you coming on too strong and too confrontational.

992 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:35:11pm

re: #984 GregInSeattle

Life is rough; you don't get do-overs.

Your recitation doesn't mean diddly here if you don't speak facts.

993 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:35:27pm

I am tucking my Toshiba in as well.
Greg, please dont stay away because of this scuff-up. We can be a wee bit sensitive here about the ID issue, but no one means to be mean-spirited about it.

994 Dom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:35:51pm

No hesitation voting for LGF. Can't say Charles is 100% where I'm at (slightly diverging musical tastes; a few political differences) but for his steady line against extremists be they anti-intellectual creationists, his incredible technical skills that make LGF not just user-friendly but thoroughly interactive, his staunch support of Israel, his staunch support of Western liberal democratic capitalism, his tireless stand against the global jihad, his brave stand against the far right and the far left, and for assembling this immense like-minded community, there is nobody like him and nowhere like LGF.

995 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:36:00pm

re: #952 GregInSeattle

It's about all sorts of attacks against our freedoms.

OK, here's my position: Teach science in science class. If someone asks about creationism/ID in biology, tell them that many people believe that, but that doesn't fall into the scientific realm, and this is a science class.

I hardly think mentioning creationism/ID constitutes an attack on any sort of freedom. You don't have the freedom to not be offended.

Don't forget to remind them that empirical facts are not subject to popularity contests, or else the Earth was once a flat disc circled by the sun, only morphing into a sun-circling sphere when opinions on the matter changed. And that reams of empirical evidence supports evolutionary theory, while not a single shred of empirical evidence supports creationism.

Why aren't astrology or alchemy addressed in public high school science classes either? For the same reason that creationism shouldn't be addressed: they're not science.

996 Dom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:36:25pm

Pimf schmimf.

997 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:36:38pm

re: #994 Dom

No hesitation voting for LGF. Can't say Charles is 100% where I'm at (slightly diverging musical tastes; a few political differences) but for his steady line against extremists be they anti-intellectual creationists, his incredible technical skills that make LGF not just user-friendly but thoroughly interactive, his staunch support of Israel, his staunch support of Western liberal democratic capitalism, his tireless stand against the global jihad, his brave stand against the far right and the far left, and for assembling this immense like-minded community, there is nobody like him and nowhere like LGF.

Ding Ding Ding
LARGE rotating Title!

998 Dom  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:37:37pm

re: #997 Wishing

:)

(Now, if I'd only previewed...)

999 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:37:59pm

re: #995 Salamantis

Don't forget to remind them that empirical facts are not subject to popularity contests, or else the Earth was once a flat disc circled by the sun, only morphing into a sun-circling sphere when opinions on the matter changed. And that reams of empirical evidence supports evolutionary theory, while not a single shred of empirical evidence supports creationism.

Why aren't astrology or alchemy addressed in public high school science classes either? For the same reason that creationism shouldn't be addressed: they're not science.

Empirical facts not subject to popularity contests?!? You sure got the Holy Profit of AGW mad at ya now! ;)

1000 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:38:18pm

re: #984 GregInSeattle

You were the one who didn't see the issue as important. For those of us that do- yes, we're going to speak up as to why we feel that way. It's unfortunate that you don't see the un-American agenda the DI is pushing, but you'll forgive the rest of us that do see the importance.

You speak of history- well... history is littered with people who didn't take threats seriously until it was too late, so I think I'll learn from them and speak out when threats rear their ugly head.

1001 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:38:34pm

re: #958 GregInSeattle

I was simply stating the country is becoming less religious. That was my point.

The US is by far the most religious country in the industrialized world.

1002 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:38:53pm

re: #998 Dom

:)

(Now, if I'd only previewed...)

At this hour? PIMF schmimf.

1003 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:38:55pm

re: #979 Sharmuta

I don't believe in troglodytes. Adam and Eve never lived in a cave! /////////

Troglytes? Of course Adam and Eve did not mine for Zenite on Ardana.

/star trek geek off

1004 Wishing  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:39:51pm

re: #1001 Salamantis

The US is by far the most religious country in the industrialized world.

And the most advanced, the most generous, the brightest and most compassionate country goin!
USA ROCKS!

1005 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:40:21pm

re: #1001 Salamantis

The US is by far the most religious country in the industrialized world.

Makes me wonder how he defines being religious. Other faiths than Christianity are flourishing here now.

1006 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:40:59pm

re: #1003 ArchangelMichael

Troglytes? Of course Adam and Eve did not mine for Zenite on Ardana.

/star trek geek off

You Cloud Minder, you! ;)

1007 Salamantis  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:41:57pm

re: #974 GregInSeattle

Who did I call a nasty name? I called the one guy a troglodyte since he hurled profanity at me.

Umm..."onslaught of atheists, socialists, & appeasers?" Ring any bells?

1008 SurferDoc  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:42:40pm

So....what did I miss?

/

1009 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:42:52pm

re: #1007 Salamantis

Umm..."onslaught of atheists, socialists, & appeasers?" Ring any bells?

Sound doesn't travel in a vacuum, you know.

1010 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:43:24pm

re: #1008 SurferDoc

So....what did I miss?

/

Troll smackdown. ;)

1011 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:44:03pm

re: #1003 ArchangelMichael

Troglytes? Of course Adam and Eve did not mine for Zenite on Ardana.

/star trek geek off

Zimmerit? Oh, wait, you said Zenite. didn't you.

/slinks to back row, polishes reading glasses.

1012 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:44:50pm

The ID issue didn't interest me all that much until I read about the Wedge document put forth by the Disco Institute. I dislike liars and dishonest people and organizations immensely. They claim to be Christians but they are prohibited by scripture from bearing false witness, i.e. lying.

1013 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:47:31pm

re: #933 GregInSeattle

However, I kinda wonder if the Republic will survive the latest onslaught of the socialists, atheists & appeasers.

It won't survive if people refuse to see the barbarian horde cresting the hills beyond.

1014 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:48:01pm

And by the way Greg, the construct that atheist=communist is a silly, juvenile argument.

1015 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:48:23pm

re: #1012 MrPaulRevere

The ID issue didn't interest me all that much until I read about the Wedge document put forth by the Disco Institute. I dislike liars and dishonest people and organizations immensely. They claim to be Christians but they are prohibited by scripture from bearing false witness, i.e. lying.

Oh no! Facts! AIEEEE! Flee in terror!

////////////////////////////////////////

1016 Outrider  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:50:49pm

re: #1006 FurryOldGuyJeans

You Cloud Minder, you! ;)

would be a hell of a place to wonder around drunk wouldn't it? You trip? You trip!

1017 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 5, 2009 11:56:50pm

re: #1013 FurryOldGuyJeans

It won't survive if people refuse to see the barbarian horde cresting the hills beyond.

Better check you razors and your guns.

1018 SurferDoc  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:02:39am

Light it up a little?

Rush

1019 LeePro  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:06:38am

/exit lurk mode

Hi, y'all

My thoughts on the B-Zero Clinton-Clinger® (← just made that up, heh) appointments, posted at MM.com:
  "Not that he would actually possess active brain cells otherwise,
  but B-Zero is being played like a violin by the DC Machine!

  Makes me SICK and scares the very life outa’ me!"

Also, anybody notice that Eric Holder's confirmation hearing is to begin
Jan. 15?

Before B0 is inaugurated?

1020 Karridine  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 12:13:56am

re: #995 Salamantis

Keep posting comments like that and you'll FAIL phrenology.

/Don't say I didn't warn you, Sal

1021 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:32:43am

re: #150 Sharmuta

Last time I looked, there was no mention of a religious requirement to being conservative.

Who defends "In God We Trust" if not conservatives?

1022 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 2:52:06am

re: #1021 motorcycleboy

Who defends "In God We Trust" if not conservatives?

There is no religious requirement to being a conservative. None.

And if you, or anyone else continues to force this notion on the remainder of the conservative movement, be prepared for defections.

1023 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:16:29am

re: #1022 Sharmuta

There is no religious requirement to being a conservative. None.

And if you, or anyone else continues to force this notion on the remainder of the conservative movement, be prepared for defections.

But there is a requirement to respect religion if you are a conservative.

Care to answer the question?

1024 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 3:25:29am

re: #1023 motorcycleboy

No. If you think the Constitution is the guide book for conservatism, then there is nothing in the Constitution about individuals respecting religion.

What the Constitution states is, as individuals, we have the right to worship as we see fit, including if we wish to worship not at all. I respect a person's right to worship- that does not mean I have to respect their religion.

1025 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:11:48am

re: #1024 Sharmuta

No. If you think the Constitution is the guide book for conservatism, then there is nothing in the Constitution about individuals respecting religion.

What the Constitution states is, as individuals, we have the right to worship as we see fit, including if we wish to worship not at all. I respect a person's right to worship- that does not mean I have to respect their religion.

We must tolerate their holding of religious beliefs so long as the practice of those beliefs does not interfere with other constitutional rights. Do you tolerate religion? To say you '[do not] have to respect their religion' could be an admission that you are intolerant when you encounter the articulation of a belief system that counters the atheist view (which is, in itelf, a belief system). Do you? Is it?

Are there places or circumstances you suddenly become intolerant of the faithful?

Do I have to remind you the Judeo-Christian ethic is the foundation of our legal system?

If God is not the creator, then who or what is the creator?

"...to worship not at all..." Of course! But making a practice of killing the mockingbird is hardly 'respect', and is indeed the opposite of respect. Those atheists that pursue the faithful among us are guilty of intolerance for the holding of a belief system that disagrees with atheism. You can't leave your beliefs in the church, synagogue, or, dare I say, mosque, if you are a true believer.

If you believe in God then you are a 'creationist' on some level. In God We Trust!

People of faith -- at least the reasonable ones -- respect one another's faith. It's the misapplication of faith that upsets true believers.

1026 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:36:54am

re: #1025 motorcycleboy

We must tolerate their holding of religious beliefs so long as the practice of those beliefs does not interfere with other constitutional rights. Do you tolerate religion? To say you '[do not] have to respect their religion' could be an admission that you are intolerant when you encounter the articulation of a belief system that counters the atheist view (which is, in itelf, a belief system). Do you? Is it?

Are you assuming I'm an atheist simply because I defend the rights of individuals to be such if that is their opinion?

Are there places or circumstances you suddenly become intolerant of the faithful?

Depends on the faith.

Do I have to remind you the Judeo-Christian ethic is the foundation of our legal system?

No- but perhaps I should remind you that more than the Bible went into the formation of this country, and that a number of the Founders were Deists.

If God is not the creator, then who or what is the creator?

"...to worship not at all..." Of course! But making a practice of killing the mockingbird is hardly 'respect', and is indeed the opposite of respect. Those atheists that pursue the faithful among us are guilty of intolerance for the holding of a belief system that disagrees with atheism. You can't leave your beliefs in the church, synagogue, or, dare I say, mosque, if you are a true believer.

WTF? You could turn this around and say the same thing about any belief system. You don't get respect just because you feel entitled. If I want to not respect Scientology- then I will. And you have no right to tell me I have to. If a belief system is vile on it's face, then I'm not going to respect it. You sound like a multi-culturalist with this line of thinking. Like a leftist, you're demanding your views are to be respected. Respect is earned.

If you believe in God then you are a 'creationist' on some level. In God We Trust!

Uh- no. I'm not a creationist because I accept the veracity of evolution.

People of faith -- at least the reasonable ones -- respect one another's faith. It's the misapplication of faith that upsets true believers.

Why are you disrespecting unreasonable people of faith?

Sorry, but to be a conservative is to hold to the ideals set in the Constitution, limited government and individual rights. There is no need to be a member of a particular religious denomination to be a conservative. Simply a belief that our Founders had it right in allowing free people to worship in their own manner. It's the essence of Liberty.

Furthermore- the Constitution specifically prohibits religious tests for public office. If the Constitution is your Conservative Handbook- you might want to read it again.

1027 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:41:13am

re: #1025 motorcycleboy

One more thing- I see that I'm supposed to be "tolerant" and "respectful".

Unless it's an atheist, right?

/hypocrite

1028 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:48:36am

It was you that said 'must respect', not me. I said tolerance. I can't accept your straw man argument.

You didn't answer my questions, yet you mock me with one of your own.

Do you believe in God?

Though the Constitution discourages religious litmus tests, the voters don't. People elect individuals to public office, not documents.

1029 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:51:08am

I should have said 'the voters don't have to' to clarify my meaning, and preempt another misinterpretation.

1030 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 4:58:22am

re: #1028 motorcycleboy

Not only are you a hypocrite, you're a liar:

But there is a requirement to respect religion if you are a conservative.

These are your words. There is no requirement of belonging to a religious belief in order to be a conservative. There is no requirement to respect religion as a conservative- only the rights of individuals to practice the faith of their choosing.

You call atheism a belief system, yet have no respect for it or the people that believe it. Hypocrite.

1031 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:23:48am

re: #1030 Sharmuta

Now now, careful with that ax, Eugene. Ad hominem attacks? Aren't "liar" and "hypocrite" harsh words? Is this your normal response template, or (more likely) are you frustrated?

The Constitution is but one tool in my conservative arsenal. The Declaration of Independence is another of my tools.

And again you appear to equate 'respecting religion' with "belonging to a religious belief" or being required to hold a religious belief. Or practicing a specific religion. I didn't say that. To respect religion does not necessarily mean you must endorse the specifics of a particular religion, its rituals, or its view of the universe and man's role in it.

How many self-labeled conservatives consider themselves to be such enemies of religion that they must expunge the views of the faithful from the public arena? Not many -- that would be intolerant. And I agree there are atheists among self-labeled conservatives. I respect their right to hold that view. Just as I respect religion (even practitioners of religion holding views dramatically different from mine). So yes in a free society we are required to respect religion, and even respect atheism. As a matter of tolerance the Constitution requires it. Read it carefully -- the 1st amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...". There is no Church of America (ref. Church of England).

The vast majority of conservatives believe in God. For that matter, the majority of scientists do too.

I called atheism a belief system, yes. And I tolerate it, and respect its annunciation to the degree I am willing to listen and challenge it. But that doesn't mean I can't argue with a particular atheist's misguided practice (that being the practice of intolerance). I could never have an atheist as a close friend, but I could (and do) have atheist neighbors that I tolerate, and yes, even respect.

By refusing to answer my questions, you are ignoring my challenges. You prefer a misguided, tangential, semantic rut. And by the employment of vitriol in your responses, you are showing signs that you may be 'intolerant'. At the minimum it reflects poorly on your character.

1032 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:33:55am

If the Big Bang theory can't be proven (will it ever be possible?) then isn't the basis for its propogation 'faith'? Aren't those who subscribe to its dogma the 'faithful'? If proponents of the Big Bang are espousing a theory as fact, aren't they legitimately called the 'faithful'?

At what point does a system of beliefs distinguish itself from religion, if indeed a particular belief is the foundation for a whole system of views?

Is it too early for this discussion without a healthy dose of caffeine?

1033 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:43:45am

re: #1021 motorcycleboy

Who defends "In God We Trust" if not conservatives?

The Religious Right, which is quite different from conservatives per se. After all, it's not a matter of conserving ancient US history; In God We trust only became the official US motto in 1956 in the throes of the now-defunct Red Scare, replacing the long standing de facto US motto, E. Pluribus Unum (Out of Many, One).

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

1034 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 6:47:10am

re: #1023 motorcycleboy

But there is a requirement to respect religion if you are a conservative.

Care to answer the question?

Religion in general, or just the religion of which you approve? After all, there are multiple Gods to Trust in Hinduism and Paganism, and none at all to be found in Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism. Or is it the case that when you say 'religion', what you really mean is Judeo-Christianity, and only that? Well, that's not what the Constitution of the United States of America means when it says 'religion.'

1035 lurking faith  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:05:07am

re: #1012 MrPaulRevere

The ID issue didn't interest me all that much until I read about the Wedge document put forth by the Disco Institute. I dislike liars and dishonest people and organizations immensely. They claim to be Christians but they are prohibited by scripture from bearing false witness, i.e. lying.

Far be it from me to support bad science, or lies, but the actual prohibition is against bearing false witness against your neighbor. That's not just plain lying; it's lying with the intent of framing/injuring/making someone look bad.

That said, I certainly agree that the arguments put forth by many ID supporters clearly misrepresent evolutionary science's theories and methods in order to make those scientists look stupid and/or evil - and that, in my book, puts the Discovery Institute's activities squarely at odds with the commandment.

1036 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:09:33am

re: #1025 motorcycleboy

We must tolerate their holding of religious beliefs so long as the practice of those beliefs does not interfere with other constitutional rights. Do you tolerate religion? To say you '[do not] have to respect their religion' could be an admission that you are intolerant when you encounter the articulation of a belief system that counters the atheist view (which is, in itelf, a belief system). Do you? Is it?

I respect the right of other people to hold anti-scientific views that are empirically provable as false, in the face of overwhelming counterfactual evidence - for instance, the Genesis Literalist dogma that the Universe, the Earth, and all the tens of millions of existent and extinct species found within it were created independently and as is a few thousand years ago - but I am not required to respect the views themselves. Nor do I think much of the decision by the people who hold them to embrace willful ignorance. But they are free to do that to themselves. When they try to legislatively mandate that it be done to other peoples' kids, they have crossed a constitutional line.

Are there places or circumstances you suddenly become intolerant of the faithful?

Yep. When they try to unconstitutionally force the sectarian indoctrination of other peoples' kids into their pet religious dogmas in public high school science classes.

Do I have to remind you the Judeo-Christian ethic is the foundation of our legal system?

The constitutional construction of our nation owes as much to the Pagan Greco-Roman tradition as it does to the judeo-Christian tradition.

If God is not the creator, then who or what is the creator?

You're assuming without empirical evidence that there was one, and only one.

"...to worship not at all..." Of course! But making a practice of killing the mockingbird is hardly 'respect', and is indeed the opposite of respect. Those atheists that pursue the faithful among us are guilty of intolerance for the holding of a belief system that disagrees with atheism. You can't leave your beliefs in the church, synagogue, or, dare I say, mosque, if you are a true believer.

It is, as far as I have seen, the Judeo-Christians who cannot manage to forbear falsely and gratuitously slandering and sliming atheists, agnostics and secularists as, among other things, fascists, communists, relativists, and ethically and/or morally deficient.

If you believe in God then you are a 'creationist' on some level. In God We Trust!

Nope. That's assuming, without empirical evidence, that being God means having to be the Universe's creator. Bit those are two distinct conceptions. The very idea of the ristotelian Prime Mover ddid not involve such creation; the Greeks believed that the Universe was always here, and the Prime Mover just set the pre-existent Cosmos in motion.

People of faith -- at least the reasonable ones -- respect one another's faith. It's the misapplication of faith that upsets true believers.

People should respect each other's right to hold any particular religious belief, or none at all. This is, however, quite distinct from respecting the beliefs themselves. If people admire another way of believing besides their own a lot, they are always free to convert to it. When they don't, in the absence of coercion, it is an indication that they respect their own belief system most of all - which means they respect other belief systems less.

1037 Peter  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:12:42am

Duty is fulfilled, LGF got my vote!

1038 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:15:03am

re: #1028 motorcycleboy

It was you that said 'must respect', not me. I said tolerance. I can't accept your straw man argument.

You didn't answer my questions, yet you mock me with one of your own.

Which you didn't answer. But Sharmuta is indeed Christian.

Do you believe in God?

Do you embrace the US Constitution?

Though the Constitution discourages religious litmus tests, the voters don't. People elect individuals to public office, not documents.

You mean like openly atheist California congressman Pete Stark?

1039 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:16:43am

re: #1033 Salamantis


Yes I am (was) aware of that fact -- but the question remains. It's been there for as long as (probably) any of us can remember, without noticeable dissent until the PC movement emerged. What about "...endowed by their Creator..." should that be purged too?

1040 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:24:48am

re: #1038 Salamantis

Yes, Pete Stark! They don't call it the Left Coast for nuthin'. And yes of course he's a Democrat. So is Harry Reid, raised in an atheist household.

1041 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:26:01am

re: #1036 Salamantis

It is, as far as I have seen, the Judeo-Christians who cannot manage to forbear falsely and gratuitously slandering and sliming atheists, agnostics and secularists as, among other things, fascists, communists, relativists, and ethically and/or morally deficient.

You mean like Stalin and Mao?

1042 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:34:37am

re: #1031 motorcycleboy

Now now, careful with that ax, Eugene. Ad hominem attacks? Aren't "liar" and "hypocrite" harsh words? Is this your normal response template, or (more likely) are you frustrated?

Just because they're harsh doesn't mean they're not true. And in your case, they are, judging from your prior posts on this thread.

The Constitution is but one tool in my conservative arsenal. The Declaration of Independence is another of my tools.

As beloved as the Declaration of Independence is, it was addressed not to the American people, but to King George III of England, and we do not rule ourselves by means of it. We rule ourselves by means of the US Constitution, as amended.

And again you appear to equate 'respecting religion' with "belonging to a religious belief" or being required to hold a religious belief. Or practicing a specific religion. I didn't say that. To respect religion does not necessarily mean you must endorse the specifics of a particular religion, its rituals, or its view of the universe and man's role in it.

You seem to confuse respecting religion with respecting the right of others to hold beliefs, whether they be religious or otherwise, which one does not respect as much as one respects one's own beliefs, whether they be religious or otherwise (or else one would convert, since it's a free country).

How many self-labeled conservatives consider themselves to be such enemies of religion that they must expunge the views of the faithful from the public arena? Not many -- that would be intolerant. And I agree there are atheists among self-labeled conservatives. I respect their right to hold that view. Just as I respect religion (even practitioners of religion holding views dramatically different from mine). So yes in a free society we are required to respect religion, and even respect atheism. As a matter of tolerance the Constitution requires it. Read it carefully -- the 1st amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...". There is no Church of America (ref. Church of England).

...Or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. But that's a far distance from allowing some religions, and not others, to indoctrinate other peoples' kids in their pet sectarian dogmas in public high school scince classes, which would be respecting some establishments of religion, by favoring them over the others. And that unconstitutional favoring is what the Disco Institute strives for.

The vast majority of conservatives believe in God. For that matter, the majority of scientists do too.

Empirical facts are not subject to popularity contests. Neither are transcendent truths. Otherwise, they would have had to change with changing belief patters over the years.

I called atheism a belief system, yes. And I tolerate it, and respect its annunciation to the degree I am willing to listen and challenge it. But that doesn't mean I can't argue with a particular atheist's misguided practice (that being the practice of intolerance). I could never have an atheist as a close friend, but I could (and do) have atheist neighbors that I tolerate, and yes, even respect.

How tolerant of you (not). I would have a hard time tolerating your intolerance, and I'm not an atheist. Because the one thing that truly tolerant people cannot in all good conscience tolerate is the intolerance of others.

By refusing to answer my questions, you are ignoring my challenges. You prefer a misguided, tangential, semantic rut. And by the employment of vitriol in your responses, you are showing signs that you may be 'intolerant'. At the minimum it reflects poorly on your character.

You're one to talk, with your discriminatory and prejudicial back-of-the-bus bigotrous view of atheists and secularists.

1043 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:37:07am

re: #1038 Salamantis

Are you and Sharmuta the same person? Neither namesake likes answering questions -- and Sharmuta's question was rhetorical.

That's assuming, without empirical evidence, that being God means having to be the Universe's creator...


Faith does not require empirical evidence! You can't apply the scientific method to faith, which brings me to the point that this assumption is the basis of the folly of arguing with the faithful for the exclusion of ideas in the classroom over fundamental questions of human existence.

1044 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:39:00am

re: #1039 motorcycleboy

"...endowed by their Creator..." is Deist code. The Founders weren't the Christians you think they were.

1045 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:40:37am
Are you and Sharmuta the same person?

LMAO!

1046 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:41:53am

re: #1039 motorcycleboy

Yes I am (was) aware of that fact -- but the question remains. It's been there for as long as (probably) any of us can remember, without noticeable dissent until the PC movement emerged. What about "...endowed by their Creator..." should that be purged too?

There was dissent when it was passed, but it was stifled by folks like Joe McCarthy. And has been since. I for one, prefer E. Pluribus Unum: many different people united into one by the common embrace of an idea of constitutional democracy with guaranteed rights and freedoms. Because before anything else, the United States of America is such a great, grand and glorious idea.

And no, the phrase "...endowed by their Creator..." shouldn't be excised from the Declaration of Independence. It's a cherished historical document which, unlike the US Constitution, has no provision for amendation, and carries no force of law.

1047 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:45:39am

re: #1041 motorcycleboy

It is, as far as I have seen, the Judeo-Christians who cannot manage to forbear falsely and gratuitously slandering and sliming atheists, agnostics and secularists as, among other things, fascists, communists, relativists, and ethically and/or morally deficient.

You mean like Stalin and Mao?

You mean like the unswervingly committed Roman Catholic Hitler (that is how he described himself to his chief of staff, General Gerhard Engel, in 1941)? And how many people have killed or died in the name of one deity or another since time immemorial? Two can play that historical slime game, and it proves nothing either way.

1048 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:47:55am

re: #1040 motorcycleboy

Yes, Pete Stark! They don't call it the Left Coast for nuthin'. And yes of course he's a Democrat. So is Harry Reid, raised in an atheist household.

Harry Reid is a Mormon. Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic. Barack Obama is a Protestant. Barney Frank is a Jew.

1049 fclass308  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:53:26am

Poodle fight! Poodle fight!

LMAO....you can't write this stuff.

Pass the popcorn. :)

1050 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:56:25am

re: #1042 Salamantis

it [Declaration of Independence] was addressed not to the American people, but to King George III of England, and we do not rule ourselves by means of it.

So is it fodder for the parrot's cage? Should we exclude study of the Declaration of Independence from schools too?

1051 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 7:58:18am

re: #1043 motorcycleboy

Are you and Sharmuta the same person? Neither namesake likes answering questions -- and Sharmuta's question was rhetorical.

I've answered your questions, and put questions back to you, which YOU have failed to answer. Are YOU Sharmuta?

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Faith does not require empirical evidence! You can't apply the scientific method to faith, which brings me to the point that this assumption is the basis of the folly of arguing with the faithful for the exclusion of ideas in the classroom over fundamental questions of human existence.

You can teach "fundamental question of human existence", which seems to be a rhetorical fig leaf behing which you conceal your own particular pet sectarian religious dogmas, in any "fundamental questions of human existence" class you can get your private or parochial school to include, or you can homeschool it, for your own kids and the kids of willing others. But nothing but empirical science belongs in public high school science class. Most certainly, faith indoctrination doesn't belong in there.

And the argument that 'the faithful' have is not only with me, but with the 1st Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America, and Founding Father and Framer Thomas Jefferson clearly outlined what the Establishment Clause of that Amendment meant in his 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists:

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties."

1052 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:01:06am
Harry Reid is a Mormon. Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic. Barack Obama is a Protestant. Barney Frank is a Jew.

That cracks me up! What does that make Rev. Wright or Rev. Pfleger? Let me guess -- Saints?

1053 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:04:06am

re: #1050 motorcycleboy

So is it fodder for the parrot's cage? Should we exclude study of the Declaration of Independence from schools too?

It certainly isn't a topic for study in public high school science class. Have students study it, and the initial, too-weak Articles of Confederation, and the US Constitution, and the Federalist Papers, and the Gettysburg Address, and John C. Calhoun's Disquisition on Government, among other American historical and governmental documents, in an American History class.

1054 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:04:24am

re: #1051 Salamantis

You can teach "fundamental question of human existence", which seems to be a rhetorical fig leaf behing which you conceal your own particular pet sectarian religious dogmas...

You mean like the Big Bang theory?

1055 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:04:52am

re: #1031 motorcycleboy

Now now, careful with that ax, Eugene. Ad hominem attacks? Aren't "liar" and "hypocrite" harsh words? Is this your normal response template, or (more likely) are you frustrated?

I just call it as I see it.

And again you appear to equate 'respecting religion' with "belonging to a religious belief" or being required to hold a religious belief. Or practicing a specific religion. I didn't say that. To respect religion does not necessarily mean you must endorse the specifics of a particular religion, its rituals, or its view of the universe and man's role in it.

Uh- no, but you appear to be making more assumptions. Sorry, but being a conservative only requires me to respect the rights of individuals. That does not mean I have to respect the choices made with those rights. In fact- it's my right to respect or not respect what ever I want- who are you to tell me otherwise? Again- it smacks of relativism. But to be crystal clear- I respect your right to follow whatever religion you'd like to follow. I am under no obligation to respect the religion itself.

So yes in a free society we are required to respect religion, and even respect atheism.

Required? And where is that written in the Constitution?

Read it carefully -- the 1st amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...". There is no Church of America (ref. Church of England).

Yes we have separation as well as Free Exercise. What is required of me is to not infringe on other people's right to Free Exercise.

The vast majority of conservatives believe in God. For that matter, the majority of scientists do too.

I never said otherwise.

I could never have an atheist as a close friend, but I could (and do) have atheist neighbors that I tolerate, and yes, even respect.

You are very closed minded.

By refusing to answer my questions, you are ignoring my challenges. You prefer a misguided, tangential, semantic rut. And by the employment of vitriol in your responses, you are showing signs that you may be 'intolerant'. At the minimum it reflects poorly on your character.

You have the audacity to say my comments reflect poorly on my character?! I'm not the one who has issues with atheists. In fact- some of my favorite people at this blog are atheists- they are more tolerant and moral than you!

And I didn't answer your questions because I don't see how they had any relevance to the point- conservatism does not require one to be religious- full stop. That you cannot wrap your head around this fairly simple notion speaks volumes about you.

1056 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:05:38am

re: #1052 motorcycleboy

That cracks me up! What does that make Rev. Wright or Rev. Pfleger? Let me guess -- Saints?

No one ever guaranteed that all people who profess a particular religion must necessarily be rational or benevolent persons.

1057 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:09:40am

re: #1054 motorcycleboy

Your rhetoric is showing now. I don't know who you think you're kidding.

1058 Salamantis  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:10:04am

re: #1054 motorcycleboy

You mean like the Big Bang theory?

No, the Big Bang Theory is, like the Theory of Gravitation and the Heliocentric Theory of the Solar System, empirically provable. We not only know that the Big Bang happened, we also know, to a pretty close approximation (13.73 ± 0.12 billion years), how long ago it happened, by measuring the red shift coefficient of the Big Bang echo background radiation that permeates every place in the Universe that we have tested for it.

1059 motorcycleboy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:14:14am