Leading Hamas terrorist Mousa Abu Marzook, deported from the United States in 1997, gets back into the US via a column in the Los Angeles Times: Hamas speaks.
Vile. Evil. Disgusting. Foul. Take your pick. There is something deeply wrong with our mainstream media.
Contact the Los Angeles Times and tell them what you think about giving a voice to genocidal mass murderers.
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Sharmuta Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:06:35pm |
There is something deeply wrong with our mainstream media.
They're the enemy.
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freedombilly Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:06:47pm |
Easier to get into the USA via the LA Times than it is via our southern border.
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freedombilly Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:09pm |
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stevieray Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:49pm |
There is something deeply wrong with our mainstream media.
Perhaps they simply aren't our MSM anymore...
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freedombilly Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:07:50pm |
re: #4 Wishing
May the bail out pass em by...
Newspapers being discussed in the bailout made me just as upset as the Franken news.
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Racer X Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:08:43pm |
There is something deeply wrong with our mainstream media.
Understatement.
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Wishing Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:09:10pm |
re: #8 freedombilly
Newspapers being discussed in the bailout made me just as upset as the Franken news.
Same here..how DARE they!
They figure since the auto industry didnt require anything more than an open hand, they may as well try too.
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CIA Reject Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:09:21pm |
And this is the same MSM that refused to print an op-ed written by John McCain: a combat veteran who suffered imprisonment and torture for his country.
Disgusting!
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Wishing Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:09:34pm |
re: #9 Iron Fist
The Media are the Enemy.
Speaking of which, has Cognito been banned again? I can't recall when the last time i saw him here was, but it's been a while.
He was here early this evening, a few threads back.
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tackle Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:10:50pm |
He defines Hamas as a "homegrown national liberation resistance movement". So that's what they're calling them now? There's so much crap in this article it's hard to know where to begin...
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M. Bensson-Levi Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:10:51pm |
re: #3 freedombilly
Easier to get into the USA via the LA Times than it is via our southern border.
Nah. Getting in via the L.A. Times requires at least rudimentary literacy.
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Inquisitive Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:10:58pm |
Vile. Evil. Disgusting. Foul. Take your pick.
Do I have to pick....all four sound correct and right on target to me!
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:05pm |
what the shit, this has to be some sort of joke
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Age Of Freedom Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:26pm |
re: #14 CIA Reject
And this is the same MSM that refused to print an op-ed written by John McCain: a combat veteran who suffered imprisonment and torture for his country.
Disgusting!
That was the NYT. But there's really not much difference anyway.
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Cicero05 Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:11:46pm |
The last gasps of a dying newspaper, a pathetic shadow of its former glory.
Good riddance to a stinking piece of journalistic shit.
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Spiny Norman Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:12:07pm |
And they wonder why their papers are dying...
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:13:05pm |
re: #4 Wishing
May the bail out pass em by...
For their boat, let's do a bail in. We confiscate their assets as a corrupt enterprise and then use the proceeds to help fund the bailout. No one can deny the LA Times is corrupt and paying member of Hamas would seem to beg for a RICO case.
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seekeroftruth Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:13:44pm |
This is truly evil. The LA Times is allowing this column in their newspaper, but you know darn well that they will not write about the TV shows that the Palestinian people are showing to their little children to hate the Jews. Or report that there were huge amounts of weapons in the mosques and schools that the Israel's blow up to protect themselves. Nope, just present the viewpoint of the terrorists to the American people who still read their paper.
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CIA Reject Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:13:58pm |
re: #24 Age Of Freedom
That was the NYT. But there's really not much difference anyway.
Point taken - yet I doubt that either the LAT or the NYT would have printed an op-ed written by Goebbels during WWII, which is essentially what they're doing now.
Rat bastids!
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Wishing Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:14:10pm |
re: #29 Dark_Falcon
For their boat, let's do a bail in. We confiscate their assets as a corrupt enterprise and then use the proceeds to help fund the bailout. No one can deny the LA Times is corrupt and paying member of Hamas would seem to beg for a RICO case.
No way you could prove there was money exchanged.
LA times GAVE him that space.
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Rexatosis Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:14:12pm |
The MSM are Copperheads and should be dealt with today as in the same manner as Lincoln dealt with such Copperheads during the Civil War.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:14:23pm |
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Silvergirl Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:14:52pm |
re: #14 CIA Reject
And this is the same MSM that refused to print an op-ed written by John McCain: a combat veteran who suffered imprisonment and torture for his country.
Disgusting!
The LA Times wouldn't let go of the tape with Obama toasting Khalidi. I guess they didn't want a columnist uprising.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:15:20pm |
re: #34 Wishing
No way you could prove there was money exchanged.
LA times GAVE him that space.
Well, a man can dream.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:16:00pm |
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Cicero05 Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:17:01pm |
re: #32 seekeroftruth
Nope, just present the viewpoint of the terrorists to the American people who still read their paper.
All ten of them
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Sharmuta Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:17:37pm |
re: #45 Syrah
Loony Liberal Leftist + Narcissistic Nihilism.
I don't think our discovery of this toxic compound will win the two of us the Nobel this year. *Sigh*
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Wishing Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:17:46pm |
re: #37 winston06
What's going on? This is not the USA I knew
I have been saying that some line has been crossed, something has gone VERY evil.
I have a hunch it started with the violent attacks on Palin. They tasted blood, saw her go down in defeat and now...well, now they are in a feeding frenzy.
Even a year ago, the violence against that reporter asking questions just would not have happened.
I sense things have been ratcheted up (or down, as the case may be), and it is VERY ugly.
I fear for all of us.
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Spiny Norman Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:18:22pm |
re: #45 Syrah
re: #36 Dark_Falcon
L3N2?Loony Liberal Leftist + Narcissistic Nihilism.
Hey! I like!
=^D
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seekeroftruth Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:18:26pm |
re: #46 Cicero05
All ten of them
And may the last ten finally catch a clue and cancel their subscription.
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Syrah Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:18:58pm |
re: #47 Sharmuta
I don't think our discovery of this toxic compound will win the two of us the Nobel this year. *Sigh*
These things take time.
Be patient.
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hous bin pharteen Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:19:28pm |
re: #2 Sharmuta
Nothing that surprises me anymore. The media was much trained in college by left wing nut jobs called professors.
Trust me, I know.
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desdichado Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:20:34pm |
After reading some of their crappy articles and editorial opinions for the past few years, I'm happy that idiotic newspapers like the LA Times and the NY Times are having financial problems. The sooner they disappear, the better.
PS to Sharmuta: Are you really a sharmuta? :-)
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Arby Dwiar Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:21:49pm |
These are truly the last days of the msm in the most classic sense...
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hous bin pharteen Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:26:34pm |
re: #55 Iron Fist
Yeah, but you have to be a compete idiot to believe it will get better with the rise of Islam in this country.
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CIA Reject Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:27:08pm |
re: #48 Wishing
I wholeheartedly agree with your analysis, but I think the timeline is considerably longer. Resistance to Evil (in America anyway) has been slowly but steadily eroding since the end of WWII. In Europe it's been going on even longer (I'd say since the end of WWI).
During that time Evil has had numerous hosts: The Nazis, the Communists, and now the Islamists (and there's probably many more I can't remember at the moment).
Still the struggle is the same, and every generation must face it. It's a struggle that goes back a long time and starts (metaphorically) with an apple and a snake.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:29:01pm |
LOLOL!
The LA Slimes puts it's "best foot" forward!
You have to live in it's distribution area, to really understand how bad this paper is. It's equal or worse than the NY Slimes, IMHO.
Won't waste my time contacting them. They don't give a flying F about their readers. And, they know perfectly well, what LLL whack jobs they are. And they're proud of it.
Circling the drain, they haven't quite noticed, yet.....
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Eclectic Infidel Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:29:49pm |
There is something deeply wrong with our mainstream media.
Understatement.
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formercorpsman Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:30:35pm |
Thank you Charles, KT, etc.
This scum needs to float to the top. Just like waste water.
My pressure is about to go off the charts, thus I shall turn in. For anyone who does not think this is nothing but pure propaganda, just refresh yourself with who this bastard is here:[Link: www.investigativeproject.org...]
We have a major newspaper in our country carrying the water for international terrorism. On an even sadder note, most of our public would not know the first thing about the HLF, the players, and the aim of Samah.
What you are watching our newspapers actively do right now, is no different than trying to paint the Nazi cause in sympathetic terms.
They don't mention his background, the fact that the Clinton administration was going after this bastard, and how he was extremely instrumental in HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT NOW!
So, what they are hoping, is that most of the stupid people in this country give their 3 second attention spans in between American Idol, to develop their own sympathy for the terrorists themselves.
I just can't believe this is the country I once wore the uniform of.
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desdichado Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:31:30pm |
Re: guns and ammo. Does anyone know of any good shooting ranges for my son and daughter (8 and 10 years old) with gun/shooting classes for kids? We're in the Washington DC/Baltimore area.
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formercorpsman Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:33:20pm |
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:34:01pm |
Charles ..... Thank you for the work you do. You are a blessing and LGF is a gift from God.
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Semi Cartman Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:47:08pm |
re: #55 Iron Fist
I'll admit that I am puzzled by his apparent sea-change on the war. I used to have a lot of respect for the man.
There are still cars with "9-11, I'll Never Forget" on their bumpers, but they're getting old. Some of them might have an "Obama 08" on the other side. A lot of people came back to their old attitudes as that event receded into the past, and the left crawled back out of its hole. I've noticed that Sullivan's backsliding is a pretty good gauge of the diminishing importance of 9-11 and the WOT, and the slide back into liberal pissedness in general. (In the Media that is.)
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Shug Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:48:26pm |
The editors of the LA times ought to be arrested, strip searched, body cavity searched, hit with high pressure water hose to clean them. then spend the night in jail before being charged with supporting terrorism.
set an example.
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hous bin pharteen Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:52:02pm |
re: #62 formercorpsman
Don't be too disgusted. You served the real people in America. And you may again. There werer idiots in this country since before the Revolution. These idiots don't even know what we are capable of. As the saying goes, "I have not yet BEGUN to fight"
[Link: www.americanrevolution.com...]
And another one of my insights: "When you mess with the best, you..................
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restitutor orbis Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:55:40pm |
Look on the bright side. The comments (at LAT) are running about 10 to 1 against
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gulfloafer Tue, Jan 6, 2009 8:59:02pm |
They wonder why nobody is buying their paper? Duh
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hous bin pharteen Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:03:39pm |
re: #66 Semi Cartman
But come to remember. It is not Main Street, USA that is going to feel the brunt of stupidity. It is going to be Hollywood Hills, Time Square, Pennsylvania Ave, and Berkley.
When you want want to fill up your gas can while smoking a stooge, have at it. There is always someone around to water off the corpse.
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maddogg Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:05:08pm |
Contact the Los Angeles Times and tell them what you think about giving a voice to genocidal mass murderers.
Sorry, Mr. Johnson, but I can't talk to a paper that is a wilful part of the terrorism problem and an obvious Hamas supporter. I hate them too much to be civil, and they don't give a shit anyway.
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Semi Cartman Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:10:14pm |
re: #62 formercorpsman
I agree completely,except for one point. I don't see them so much actively promoting Hamas etc. as I see them as passively spreading their propaganda, publishing it without much, if any comment. Over and over, as if it were news, giving it legitimacy by its mere presence in the print and broadcast media. They can say they're 'neutral', which in their twisted perspective, is 'good'. This turns media like the Tribune company, which owns the LAT, into nothing more than a Hamas newsletter, with other stuff in it. They can deny it, but it's right there in print. I just want to know what they think they will gain, what are their ultimate goals? Why do they do this?
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Semi Cartman Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:12:09pm |
re: #69 restitutor orbis
Hmmm. Read the article, skipped the comments. Sometimes they are the rest of the story.
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Semi Cartman Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:17:01pm |
re: #71 hous bin pharteen
When you want want to fill up your gas can while smoking a stooge, have at it. There is always someone around to water off the corpse.
?
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hous bin pharteen Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:25:14pm |
When you are filling a bucket or can with gasoline while smoking a cigar or cigarette, it will ignite the fumes and all things will go boom.
(ex-fireman talking)
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judith0007 Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:27:02pm |
I am so sick of the media. Has no one ask to think why the oil rich nations of the world don't just hand over ONE day's interest off oil profits and build the Palestinians a home worth living in? I mean, look at the photos of Gaza and the area? It is an absolute hell-hole. These youth have nothing to live for, aspire to, hope for. It is Hamas' fault 100%, but it just indicates the easily brainwashed people would rather die than continue living in the current situation...oh, and let's not forget taking babies, kids, women with them.
If their loving Arab-Muslim brothers cared (even remotely) then put up or shut-up, but they won't because they believe the Palestinians are lunatic terrorists just like the rest of the world. Alas....
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hous bin pharteen Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:28:03pm |
Good night folks. Talk to you all tomorrow.
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leereyno Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:42:58pm |
Is it just me, or as the MSM become particularly brazen of late? Do they assume because The One has been elected that the country is changing and becoming peopled by the sorts who eat this garbage up for lunch and ask for seconds? Do they perhaps assume that with the left in power the "fairness doctrine" will return? Or do they perhaps have their hopes pinned on outright censorship of anything that they can tar as "hate speech?"
Our nation has many enemies, but the ones here at home are the most dangerous of all.
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Semi Cartman Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:54:58pm |
re: #81 leereyno
Yes, they have. They consider their audience to be compliant, stupid cows. An audience that shrinks by the day.
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freedomsound Tue, Jan 6, 2009 9:57:17pm |
re: #62 formercorpsman
Yes, and let's not forget that Marzook helped to create CAIR, which is itself an IAP spin-off.
...Much of that evidence relates to Mousa Abu Marzook, now deputy political chief of Hamas, who served on the board of directors of IAP in 1989.
The trial exhibits included a memo taken from the home of Ismail Elbarrasse, a former assistant to Marzook, which defines in chilling fashion the role the Muslim Brothers play in North America:
The process of settlement is a "Civilization-Jihadist Process" with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack….
http://www.investigativeproject.org/article/621
The MSM is a willing accomplice in the "Civilization-Jihadist Process" as stated by the terrorists above.
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Bluecold Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:01:06am |
It was not unexpected antijewness. The ohio state professor endorsing hamas is much worse imo.
As long as they give an Israeli defence person the opportunity to write a similar column, I see nothing wrong with letting Hamas voice their side of the story.
That said, i don't think what Israel does is very fruitful. Even if 400 Hamas die, there are still 500.000 children raised as new Hamas warriors. Hamas needed this bombings to fuel the hate. Israel gave them exactly what they wanted. Hamas would have hated it if Israel dropped food instead of bombs.
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MJBrutus Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:43:50am |
Vile. Evil. Disgusting. Foul. Take your pick.
My entry is loathsome. Loathsome.
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senior ferrari Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:53:46am |
Wait a moment now.... wasn't he innocent? I seem to recall various academics and other defenders claiming he was just a family man involved with several Islamic charities who was being unjustly persecuted by the U.S. government. Now the LA Times identifies him as a Hamas official. I'm confiused here....
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:57:22am |
desdichado, try On Target, in Odenton (near Fort Meade). They have an indoor range, gun rentals and safety/shooting classes. I don't know what age they allow for kids to take classes or shoot.
[Link: www.ontargetdot.com...]
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Amer-I-Can Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:27:06am |
I read that article, what a piece of excrement. The LA Times has gone even lower than I had expected on this one.
Line up for your three issues a week, it is around the corner.... and you KNOW that they will have their hands out for bail out money. Disgusting.
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FrogMarch Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:36:21am |
The same MSM that promotes and helps Democrats in elections - is also pro-Nazi-Hamas.
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Yashmak Wed, Jan 7, 2009 7:27:56am |
Email expressing my disgust has been sent to the Times.
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dhg4 Wed, Jan 7, 2009 8:49:20am |
And his boss Khaled Meshaal got to do an op-ed at al Guardian. They don't just honor dead terrorists there.
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Elcid Wed, Jan 7, 2009 9:18:43am |
Mousa Abu failed to mention that the Egyptians don't much care for them either. OH and that Jordan rooted Arafat and pals out in the late 60's, early 70's.
Face it, Mousa...Damn everyone despises you vile creatures. (exception the anti-Semites here in the U.S. Some have newspapers) Even in the various Middle East countries that do house you, you are damn near treated as lepers.
Why is that, Mousa?
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Red Ruffansore Wed, Jan 7, 2009 9:20:10am |
It's obvious, by employing a terrorist the LA Times is an extention of terrorism and therefore is an enemy of our country and should be treated as such. Allowing this mouthpiece for the Paleosimians is unacceptable and he should be drummed out of the states and reside in the smelly crumbling ruins of the world he created for his rat like followers.
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Yashmak Wed, Jan 7, 2009 10:33:06am |
re: #95 Elcid
Mousa Abu failed to mention that the Egyptians don't much care for them either. OH and that Jordan rooted Arafat and pals out in the late 60's, early 70's.
You know, last night, Jon Stewart said something on "The Daily Show" that made me think of this point. Basically, he mentioned that the Palestinians are kept confined in Gaza (implying it's the Israelis responsible). . .but it's as much the Egyptians doing it as the Israelis. The Egyptians don't want them either.
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jopa416 Wed, Jan 7, 2009 10:43:21am |
People are finally seeing that the media, not the politicans, are the real problem. Solve the media problem & the politican problem solves itself. Stop spending on movies, magazines, papers, etc....send a message.
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alegrias Wed, Jan 7, 2009 11:02:31am |
Oddly enough,
Convicted thug Sami Al Arian's daughter, wearing headscarf, was interviewed in the DC area protesting Israel WITHOUT IDENTIFYING HER as such, on Fox News 5 in the DC Metro area 10pm news broadcast a couple days ago.
Anyone else catch this? I believe Sami Al Arian is being held in Alexandria, VA jail pending extradition or further sentencing. Fact check please.
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alegrias Wed, Jan 7, 2009 11:13:48am |
Turns out that the daughter of Sami Al Arian the terrorist--who was interviewed protesting against the IDF SURGE in Gaza without attribution on Fox 5 in DC recently-- is a producer in DC for Al Jazeera, and contributes to the Huffingtonpost, per Wikipedia.
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strangelove Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:15:00pm |
My letter to the LA fishwrap:
"I read about your columnist, Mousa Abu Marzook on Little Green Footballs.com.
This person is a known terrorist, deported from this country in 1997.
"...What is so wrong with you that you think this criminal's voice deserves to be heard in one of the country's most prominent newspapers? Have you all finally gone mad there?
Not only do I not buy your papers, nor go to your website (other than today) but now I will boycott your advertisers and will be contacting them directly to let them know they will get no business from me and many others like me as long as they advertise with you.
I, as most Americans, take terrorism very seriously. There is no 'other side' to terrorism. It is an evil that deserves no voice in a civilized society.
I shouldn't have to remind you of this fact...."
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