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Open | Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:22:08 pm PST

The lion cannot protect himself from traps, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves.

Niccolo Machiavelli

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1 rawmuse  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:24:58pm

Insert thoughtful rejoinder here.

2 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:27:29pm

Modern liberal motto: Evil is the victim of Good.

Remember that in the days and weeks ahead, for the modern liberals will do everything in their power to make sure Evil has allies while Good is punished.

3 Syrah  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:29:21pm

Do they have students read Niccolo Machiavelli in college nowadays?

4 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:30:08pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

I saw that thought experiment you suggested on the last thread about fairy tales. Have you ever heard of the PC fairy tales that came out about ten years ago?

5 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:30:41pm

re: #3 Syrah

Reminds me, I should re-read my copy soon.

6 rawmuse  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:34:05pm

re: #3 Syrah

Do they have students read Niccolo Machiavelli in college nowadays?

Anything of value I read after college. In college my required reading was not that good. No Sun Tzu, no Macchiavelli.

7 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:37:10pm

re: #6 rawmuse

Anything of value I read after college. In college my required reading was not that good. No Sun Tzu, no Macchiavelli.

The Public Library is one of the best schools I've had the pleasure to attend.

8 rumcrook  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:37:11pm

re: #6 rawmuse
I read Sun Tzu as required reading in my non com officer course in the regular army. I cant recall any of the required reading while I was in college.

9 Buster Bunny  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:37:29pm

For newbies, an open thread is where thoughts and debate, current affairs and trolls hang out and chat about the events of the day.

And if you stay reeeeeely reeeely long .. the creationists arrive to badmouth everyone above the dotted line signifying the end of the thread.

/Enjoy !

10 traderjoe9  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:39:21pm

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

But a convoy of four vehicles from U.N. aid agencies had to wait for about an hour at the Karaleti checkpoint before being turned away after a brief discussion with a Russian general.

Does anyone remember any international outrage or protests as a result of Russia's actions? Or how about this...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

KIEV, Ukraine — At least two Bulgarian cities were totally without gas Tuesday, and nations like Turkey were turning to Iran to bolster their supplies, as a natural gas crisis looms over Europe after a contract dispute between Russia and Ukraine led Russia to shut off gas supplies to seven countries and reduce gas deliveries to several others.

This all happening while temperatures in Europe are far below freezing.

Israel is a special case, I guess.

11 rawmuse  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:40:37pm

I was required to read "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" by Coleridge.
And much ado was made of his drug addiction.

12 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:41:16pm

re: #4 BlueCanuck

This would go beyond "PC" into moonbat land. Where the Three Little Pigs not only get screwed by the wolf destroying their homes, but George Bush is funding the wolf, whose name is Haliburton. More like that.

13 Wookieelips  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:41:39pm

Well, I finally got my iPhone (8g), and now I don't even know what to do with it!
I installed messenger of course so I could chat with the hubby anywhere, but there's all these apps, and I'm so overwhelmed that I haven't even downloaded any free ones.

Anyone have any reccommendations for the best ones?

14 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:42:22pm

re: #12 Sharmuta

This would go beyond "PC" into moonbat land. Where the Three Little Pigs not only get screwed by the wolf destroying their homes, but George Bush is funding the wolf, whose name is Haliburton. More like that.

And so we could also appease cair, we'd re-name the story The Three Little Goats.

15 Buster Bunny  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:42:30pm

re: #10 traderjoe9

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

This all happening while temperatures in Europe are far below freezing.

Israel is a special case, I guess.

Gazprom will be hurt by this misadventure more than Ukraine. This is a politik game at a time when most of Europe is freezing. Its bad politics and its bad manners in the relations for negotiation. Russia wants Ukraine back badly and will create a reason to do so.

16 rawmuse  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:43:13pm

re: #13 Wookieelips

I have too, and since I am a musician I got all my fave music apps.
They are
iTick, iTuner, and More Cowbell

17 rumcrook  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:43:53pm

re: #12 Sharmuta

Three Little Pigs? cant use them at all, not halal and that aint pc sarc/

18 Wookieelips  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:43:57pm

re: #16 rawmuse

I have too, and since I am a musician I got all my fave music apps.
They are
iTick, iTuner, and More Cowbell

More Cowbell?
I think the name alone has sold me.

19 Buster Bunny  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:44:39pm

re: #13 Wookieelips

Well, I finally got my iPhone (8g), and now I don't even know what to do with it!
I installed messenger of course so I could chat with the hubby anywhere, but there's all these apps, and I'm so overwhelmed that I haven't even downloaded any free ones.

Anyone have any reccommendations for the best ones?

There is this addictive lil game thats out there for the Iphone .. its like Tetris but it uses the whole 'tilt' thing that the Iphone has to work the puzzle from ANY angle. Its fun and its very addictive .. i think its called Tris or something like that.

20 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:45:22pm

re: #17 rumcrook

Three Little Pigs? cant use them at all, not halal and that aint pc sarc/

No- Three Little Goats.

21 Syrah  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:45:28pm

Another incredibly important book that I think everyone should read is The History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides

(Warning, the link will download the whole book in .txt. Click with care if you are on dial-up.)

22 rawmuse  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:46:01pm

re: #18 Wookieelips

Oh, and Pocket Piano

23 Buster Bunny  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:47:03pm

re: #22 rawmuse

Oh, and Pocket Piano

iCantPlay !

24 Wookieelips  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:47:21pm

re: #19 Buster Bunny

There is this addictive lil game thats out there for the Iphone .. its like Tetris but it uses the whole 'tilt' thing that the Iphone has to work the puzzle from ANY angle. Its fun and its very addictive .. i think its called Tris or something like that.

Is that the one with the grumpy looking blocks?

25 Buster Bunny  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:48:52pm

re: #24 Wookieelips

Is that the one with the grumpy looking blocks?

Found it on YouTube .. its called Trism .. there is a demo on the site. Enjoy !

26 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:48:59pm

Aren't there a series of vodka commercials out there that show Sean 'Puffy' Combs/Puff Daddy/P-Diddy kickin' back at a nightclub with the aforementioned vodka prominently in the foreground? The....during Puff Piddy's voiceover, he has the unmitigated chutzpah to say 'Enjoy our product responsibly'?

WTF? He couldn't land that Smith & Wesson endorsement with the same disclaimer? I mean....cripes....it could be the same commercial, just swap the bottle of vodka with a S&W Sigma or something....

27 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:49:12pm

re: #21 Syrah

Man am I ever getting behind in my reading. Part way through "On the Origins of War" by Kagan. Covers a few wars in history and everything that led up to them. The lead up to the Peloponnesian and WW1 is fascinating.

28 rumcrook  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:49:19pm

re: #20 Sharmuta
sorry I was a day late and a dollar short posting that before you revised to include the misunderstood religion of peace~~~~~~~~~ the amish

29 Wookieelips  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:49:43pm

re: #25 Buster Bunny


Thanks!

30 rawmuse  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:49:47pm

re: #8 rumcrook

I read Sun Tzu as required reading in my non com officer course in the regular army. I cant recall any of the required reading while I was in college.

I enjoyed the book, but since I am generally a peaceful man, I have no idea why. I suppose I feel like I should be able to do war if need be, and if it ever comes to that, I don't want to be a complete idiot about it. I study war history a lot and so much seems to pivot on just a small mistake, which turns in to a defeat.

31 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:51:14pm

re: #30 rawmuse

I have seen two copies. One I owned, and one was a friends. One was categorized as "Military Philosophy", while the other was labeled "Business Philosophy". Guess one was printed after "Wall Street".

32 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:51:45pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

I found an old text book the other day written by Samuel P. Huntington from my days as a political science student. I should re-read it. I never paid it much mind at the time, I was saddened to hear of his passing.

33 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:52:57pm

re: #3 Syrah

Do they have students read Niccolo Machiavelli in college nowadays?

i'm wasting my next 23 weekday mornings in a class at one of the local CC's....

from what i've seen, i'm not sure these cretins can think, let alone read.

most of the lazy bastards can't even show up on time. it's an anthro class, and the majority either questioned or denied evolution when polled.

/ i'm guessing they voted that way in self defense. %-)

34 teleskiguy  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:54:24pm

One must be an animal. or you will be taken over.

35 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:56:28pm

LNDT honco check

'present!'

36 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:57:18pm

re: #35 redc1c4

present.

/white smoke
//just in case.

37 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:57:32pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

One must be an animal. or you will be taken over.

i prefer to eat animals......

38 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:57:44pm

re: #35 redc1c4

LNDT honco check

'present!'

Another honco lurking here. LOL

39 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 6, 2009 11:58:42pm

re: #36 BlueCanuck

present.

/white smoke
//just in case.

i guess that makes us the "head honcos"......

/more white smoke

40 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:00:03am

re: #32 MrPaulRevere

I wish I'd kept more of my textbooks, though some I did keep but later lost. Used bookstores can be great places to find treasures. I try to always make it to the library's book sale, too.

41 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:01:09am

'Present!'

(in honor of the incoming presidents' senate record)

And enjoying my Bacardi responsibly.

42 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:01:10am

re: #35 redc1c4

LNDT honco check

'present!'

My honco ass is in the avatar.

43 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:02:20am

re: #35 redc1c4

LNDT honco check

'present!'

Present and lurking for now. Morning Lizards.

44 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:03:31am

re: #42 Sharmuta

My honco ass is in the avatar.

and a very cute one at that, if you don't mind me saying so.......

but how'd you pad the karma count like that?

/white smoke

45 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:06:11am

Is anybody else getting snuggie e-mail spam? Had my first one today....."as seen on TV", "perfect for the holidays". LOL

46 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:06:24am

re: #40 Sharmuta

I found the most amazing biography of Wyatt Earp at a garage sale last year, those type of gems turn up where you least expect them.

47 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:06:39am

re: #44 redc1c4

and a very cute one at that, if you don't mind me saying so.......

but how'd you pad the karma count like that?

/white smoke

Blondes have more karma. ;)

/white smoke

48 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:07:24am

re: #44 redc1c4

With a potent combination of charm and charisma?

49 rawmuse  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:07:27am

re: #45 Pvt Bin Jammin

No, just Sham Wow.

50 Wookieelips  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:08:18am

re: #49 rawmuse

No, just Sham Wow.


If they ever combine the two into one product, we are in trouble.

51 rumcrook  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:09:15am

re: #30 rawmuse

becuase your probably in the sheepdog catagory. like most good men who know the difference between good and evil and understand evil wont be placated with words alone. the best read ive had that talked about the concept I read over at bill whittles eject eject eject it was called tribes, and he talked in thier somewhere in the middle about being a peaceful outwardly normal guy that looked like everyone else, (everyone else were described as sheep, (not an insult just a statement of fact theysaw no danger) but the sheepdog which looked like the sheep and cared for the sheep is more awake. and could spend a life time being peacefull maybe never looking like anything other than tthe sheep, but if the wolves came over the mountian, if the wolves came howling for the sheep, the sheepdog stands up and prepares to defend all he loves and lived with in peace

52 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:10:19am

re: #49 rawmuse

No, just Sham Wow.

Maybe the poster who came up with the Snuggie made out of the Sham Wow material needs to get with these people for a whole new revolutionary product. LOL

53 rawmuse  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:14:35am

re: #51 rumcrook

Hey, that was a good read. I bookmarked it for later.
Sheepdog. I'll take it, with honor.

54 Wookieelips  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:14:59am

re: #52 Pvt Bin Jammin

Maybe the poster who came up with the Snuggie made out of the Sham Wow material needs to get with these people for a whole new revolutionary product. LOL


Hey! Then I would never have to clean up anything I spilled on myself again.

55 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:15:27am

re: #50 Wookieelips

If they ever combine the two into one product, we are in trouble.

as pointed out in another thread, it would certainly solve the whole "rising oceans" threat.

(if it actually existed, of course. %-)

56 rawmuse  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:16:42am

Hasta la manana, Lizards!

57 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:17:04am

re: #54 Wookieelips

Hey! Then I would never have to clean up anything I spilled on myself again.

but think of the damage it could cause with the pr0no industry....... %-)

/white smoke

58 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:17:14am

re: #54 Wookieelips

Hey! Then I would never have to clean up anything I spilled on myself again.

Yup, then you toss yourself into the washer, and the spin cycle is a scream. Then hop over to the dryer and have yourself fluff dryed...:)

59 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:17:17am

Night rawmuse, stay warm.

60 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:18:37am

re: #54 Wookieelips

Hey! Then I would never have to clean up anything I spilled on myself again.

Exactly, LOL. I think it was "Gearhead" who posted the original idea. Thought he could relax while doing housework.

61 Wookieelips  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:18:55am

re: #57 redc1c4

but think of the damage it could cause with the pr0no industry....... %-)

/white smoke


I didn't want to think of that, but now I am thanks to you.


/ ;-p

62 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:20:15am

re: #57 redc1c4

but think of the damage it could cause with the pr0no industry....... %-)

/white smoke

OMG ROTFLMAO

63 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:21:22am

Killing Their Own

[Link: frontpagemagazine.com...]

64 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:21:48am

LOL, you should have heard some CAIR rep on the Al Rendell (is that his name?) show this afternoon. She was arguably the most ridiculous caller I've ever heard. They were discussing the plane incident and racial profiling and all that.

I wish I had a recording of what she said.

65 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:24:11am

re: #46 MrPaulRevere

I found the most amazing biography of Wyatt Earp at a garage sale last year, those type of gems turn up where you least expect them.

That's another great source.

66 winston06  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:25:12am

Just finished watching a documentary called "World without US"... Great concept but poorly executed.

67 rumcrook  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:25:53am

re: #53 rawmuse

glad you liked it, Whittle crystalized some important themes in that for me.

it also emphasizes the importance of self defense and to me how true pacifism is evil on a spiritual level. to not respond to evil with force or force that can kill will kill or does kill, is to spit on the gift of life given us by the creator. since it is a gift that is mighty unappreciative. to not defend the truelly innocent is a dark evil and we are in a time where popular thought has turned the evil into the innocent and vice versa.

when your awake to that as most who are at lgf are, you are a target for the dark who howl at the light of this fact brought forward every day.

68 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:27:54am

re: #62 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG ROTFLMAO

and yet, no up dings..... i don't get no respect i tell ya. %-)

69 Wookieelips  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:28:18am

I can't takes no more!

Night lizards!

Don't abuse your shamwows too much.

70 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:29:22am

Interesting. Original Kenyan Birth Certificates come in short form.

71 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:29:27am

re: #63 Dustyvet

Killing Their Own

[Link: frontpagemagazine.com...]

That is so sick but I am not surprised at anything anymore. Didn't that former Hamas member that Charles featured here say something about them killing each other too?

72 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:31:46am

If you ever doubted the extent of moonbattery, there is a thread on Huffington post about a true non story "Levi Johnston Quits Job; Palin Denies Involvement" with 1,285 comments.

73 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:32:56am

re: #68 redc1c4

and yet, no up dings..... i don't get no respect i tell ya. %-)

You are up to three updings now. Sorry I forgot to go back and do that until you reminded me.

And here I thought I was "dingy".

74 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:33:44am
75 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:33:44am

i'm gonna go w*rk up the fruitcup and cop some Z's so i can try & stay awake in class tomorrow...... not that i'll learn anything usefull.

hasta, y'all.....

L8r!

76 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:34:53am

Night red, have fun being the terror of the classroom. :)

77 winston06  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:35:39am

good night folks

78 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:35:39am

re: #73 Pvt Bin Jammin

You are up to three updings now. Sorry I forgot to go back and do that until you reminded me.

And here I thought I was "dingy".

i should grovel more often...... i'm only what? 46K short of Sharmuta?

/it was '0' when i whined. %-)

79 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:35:50am

re: #75 redc1c4

i'm gonna go w*rk up the fruitcup and cop some Z's so i can try & stay awake in class tomorrow...... not that i'll learn anything usefull.

hasta, y'all.....

L8r!

Almost out of here myself. I'm trying to get out of this habit of staying up late.

I think Little Old Lady is back or are you forever doing the "special" fruitcups?

80 Crux Australis  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:37:20am

re: #72 MrPaulRevere

If you ever doubted the extent of moonbattery, there is a thread on Huffington post about a true non story "Levi Johnston Quits Job; Palin Denies Involvement" with 1,285 comments.

Two things I have had enough of today is Palin bashing and Israel bashing. I am fed up already.

81 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:40:47am

re: #80 Crux Australis

Two things I have had enough of today for 2009 is Palin bashing and Israel bashing. I am fed up already.

Wasn't nearly as bad as I anticipated when I was w/family for Christmas. I suspect their enthusiasm for the Big 0 was somewhat dampened by the scandal surrounding the Illinois governor trying to sell Big 0's senate seat.

82 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:42:02am

re: #80 Crux Australis

This obsession with all things Palin is truly bizarre. Some folks weren't fans, and that's fair enough. But its degenerated into a hate cult. And I would imagine the same crowd that hates her with a passion also spews anti-semitism with a vengeance.

83 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:48:42am

Red ... you missed the big dustup about me not voting for McCain last night, well not last night that i voted, or didnt vote. WTF. Tried to do all the research and such about why John was not the man of the moment and now I'm just too tired to f,,care.

84 MarineMomSue  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 12:59:04am

re: #3 Syrah

Do they have students read Niccolo Machiavelli in college nowadays?

Do they have college professors who have read Machiavelli nowadays?

85 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:05:44am

re: #83 Mel Lono

I was too tired to care when you were patting yourself on the back for your indirect contribution to 4 years of an 0bama White House.

86 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:10:02am

Seeing as it is so quiet in here.

John received a parrot as an early Christmas gift.
The parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary.
Every word out of the bird's mouth was rude,
obnoxious and laced with profanity.

John tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by
consistently saying only polite words, playing soft music and
anything else he could think of to 'clean up' the bird's vocabulary.
Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot.
The parrot yelled back.

John shook the parrot and the parrot got angrier and even ruder.
John, in desperation, threw up his hands, grabbed the
bird and shoved him in the freezer.

For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed.
Then suddenly there was total quiet.
Not a peep was heard for over a minute.

Fearing that he'd hurt the parrot,
John quickly opened the door to the freezer.

The parrot calmly stepped out onto John's outstretched
arms and said 'I believe I may have offended you
with my rude language and actions.
I'm sincerely remorseful for my inappropriate transgressions
and I fully intend to do everything I can to
correct my rude and unforgivable behavior.'

John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude.
As he was about to ask the parrot what had made such a
dramatic change in his behavior, the bird continued....

........"May I inquire as to what the turkey did?'

87 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:10:22am

When we had this conversation 8 months ago, i said I'd take the rap for it. I guess this is it.

88 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:12:39am

re: #86 Erik The Red

Heard this joke before, but the punch line is even better. :)

89 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:13:34am

re: #88 BlueCanuck

Heard this joke before, but the punch line is even better. :)

Yeah so have I. Just got it for maybe the 100th time via email.

90 ichef  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:31:21am

Im tired of the liberal crapola ... The donkey show in Washington is grating on my last nerve ...

91 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:34:48am

McCain-Feingold - Anybody care for the First Amendment? do you even know what it says? Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Period! Any questions?

McCain-Kennedy — the most far-reaching amnesty program in American history. It costs us Californians more than just taxes to support them and their families. Jobs, ER's, schools that are safe for our kids, and then teachers that care to do their job.

McCain-Lieberman — an oil tax, fortunately defeated. Just wait for the next round.

McCain-Kennedy-Edwards — Starting to see a pattern here?

Not to mention the Gang of 14 to prevent using the "nuclear option" of using a filibuster to get R judges a fair confirmation hearing in the Senate, up or down.

This is all old news. Take it or go sod off.

92 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:38:18am

re: #91 Mel Lono

McCain-Feingold - Anybody care for the First Amendment? do you even know what it says? Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Period! Any questions?

McCain-Kennedy � the most far-reaching amnesty program in American history. It costs us Californians more than just taxes to support them and their families. Jobs, ER's, schools that are safe for our kids, and then teachers that care to do their job.

McCain-Lieberman � an oil tax, fortunately defeated. Just wait for the next round.

McCain-Kennedy-Edwards � Starting to see a pattern here?

Not to mention the Gang of 14 to prevent using the "nuclear option" of using a filibuster to get R judges a fair confirmation hearing in the Senate, up or down.

This is all old news. Take it or go sod off.

Mel we all know how you didn't vote. You opened this debate yesterday. If you can't take the heat don't bring it up.

93 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:38:53am

re: #91 Mel Lono

Hooray! You've won! I'm sure we're going to be 1000 times better off with Bill Ayer's candidate in the white house.

Hugo Chavez, Vlad Putin and Robert Mugabe seem to second that.

94 Outrider  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:39:42am

re: #91 Mel Lono

McCain-Feingold - Anybody care for the First Amendment? do you even know what it says? Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Period! Any questions?

McCain-Kennedy � the most far-reaching amnesty program in American history. It costs us Californians more than just taxes to support them and their families. Jobs, ER's, schools that are safe for our kids, and then teachers that care to do their job.

McCain-Lieberman � an oil tax, fortunately defeated. Just wait for the next round.

McCain-Kennedy-Edwards � Starting to see a pattern here?

Not to mention the Gang of 14 to prevent using the "nuclear option" of using a filibuster to get R judges a fair confirmation hearing in the Senate, up or down.

This is all old news. Take it or go sod off.

Not the best legislation to be sure. But, I'm sure Obama will do much much more for us. Or to us. Thanks.
/

95 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:40:01am

So............. how about them [insert sports team here]?

96 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:41:58am

re: #95 Sharmuta

Well the Toronto Make Me Laughs are doing their usual.

/racing for the bottom of the division. . . . . .

97 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:42:35am

Iggles!

/why not? we have a week to revel in it anyway...

98 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:44:54am

re: #97 littleoldlady

Good morning littleoldlady. Iggles?

99 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:45:16am

re: #91 Mel Lono

Wait, what? Is McCain still running for POTUS? I thought the election was over. Didn't Obama win?

/guess we dodged a bullet there

100 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:45:19am

re: #96 BlueCanuck

There's always college hockey.

101 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:45:37am

Philadelphianese for "Eagles".

BlueCanuck! :-)

102 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:46:10am

littleoldlady AND Sleepy B? It must be my lucky morning.

103 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:48:26am

re: #102 Sharmuta

Sharmuta! :-)

Powerball up to 105 mil.

/of course I'll share! ;-)

104 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:49:14am

I was called a lazy, cowardly wimp by LeePro last night so this is Round 2. I do not take kindly to insults. I prefer gentlemenly argument. I chose to retire rather than to have my ire get the best of me. What I saw in the interim is that many of you agreed with her. Have at it.

105 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:51:20am

So, boston.. What did you do to bring the One's faults to light?

106 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:51:39am

re: #103 littleoldlady

Sharmuta! :-)

Powerball up to 105 mil.

/of course I'll share! ;-)

You'd have to share- 0bama will see to that.

107 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:52:37am

re: #102 Sharmuta

You flatter my unduly. LoL is waaay cooler than me. For one thing, she brings fruitcup to the party. I mostly bring empty beer bottles. And sometimes metal.

Sometimes.

108 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:52:54am

re: #106 Sharmuta

You'd have to share- 0bama will see to that.

Oh. Right. I forgot about that. :-(

/Mattresses 'R Us!

109 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:55:26am

re: #104 Mel Lono

Aw, cheer up kiddo. It's a tough room. Your scales will thicken up.

Eventually.

110 Ledger1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:57:18am

I would like to give some of those Hamashole brown-nose libtards who write hate mail to Charles the Machiavellian treatment.

Anybody got ideas about how to battle the hate mail?

bb in a minute.

111 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:59:34am

Outrider.. you need a new name. For now, you're scout. Keep your ears on

I'm more worried about President, yes President Bush, has done in the last 30 days (i.e bailouts, pseudo or not socialism) than anything O'man will do.

112 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet → → → → →
Help yourselves!

113 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:01:01am

Morning maam. Fruit cup is a little sour tonight.

114 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:01:14am

Slumbering! :-)

I used to be cool. That was before I became pathetic.

/good times, good times...

115 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:01:25am

re: #112 littleoldlady

Thanks littleoldlady!

In honor of your Eagles- it's the Pennsylvania Polka! Crank it!

116 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:01:26am

2009 fruitcup has that extra zing.

117 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:01:37am

re: #112 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet → → → → →
Help yourselves!

Thank you lol. Just in time the natives were getting restless.

118 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:02:05am

re: #105 Mel Lono

The 0ne's faults were- in theory- there for all to see....yet miraculously avoided any serious scrutiny by the MSM once it became clear he was going to get the DNC nod. One insidous byproduct of the 0bama-plugs campaign that will carry over to his Administration will be the White House, Dems and their MSM allies shrieking 'Racism!' every time one of 0bama's policies gets questioned (thanks again for your role in making this possible- however indirect).

Another telling sign that you made the right decision by staying home like a petulant little child was how joyful the enemies of this country were at the results of this election. I'm so glad the Republic has regained some of it's esteem in the eyes of Hamas, Evo Morales, Mahmous Ahmedinejahd and Kim Il Jong.....I was born too late to fully appreciate the joys of the Carter Administration, but I appreciate you doing your level best to make certain I relive those glorious times.

119 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:02:55am

re: #113 Mel Lono

Morning maam. Fruit cup is a little sour tonight.

Fruitcup is just fine. You are being asshole tonight you are the sour one.

120 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:03:43am

Buster! :-)

Erik! :-)

Fenway! :-)

121 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:03:48am

re: #104 Mel Lono

Well, you threw away your vote and whining and complaining about the runner doesn't win you friends. I despise people who say their vote is worthless. In my riding, my vote is worthless. Has been for several elections. BUT I STILL VOTE! You never know when it can turn the tide. Yeah, John McCain was a poor choice. But at least it was better then the alternative. So quit your whinging and whining and stop complaining about the president you are going to get. By not voting you have given up your right to complain about the government.

/rant mode off.

122 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:04:33am

Are we there yet?re: #114 littleoldlady

Slumbering! :-)

I used to be cool. That was before I became pathetic.

/good times, good times...

Bite your tongue, Lady. I think you're cool. Heh, but maybe I'm pathetic too?

Nah, scratch that. You're cool.

Hate to eat fruitcup and run, but it's time I crash. G'nite Lizards.

123 Render  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:05:23am

FRUITCUP,
R

124 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:05:47am

re: #112 littleoldlady

Thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady. It seems to have something a little extra this morning.

125 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:06:35am

re: #122 Slumbering Behemoth

I agree- lol is teh cool.

126 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:06:36am

re: #115 Sharmuta

A WHOLE STATE (and its song) -- also pathetic! ;-)

/good company

127 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:07:28am

re: #124 BlueCanuck

Thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady. It seems to have something a little extra this morning.

Yeah- something... Enough to make me link to polka.

128 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:08:10am

'Night, Slumbering! :-)

129 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:09:22am

re: #95 Sharmuta

What time is kickoff for the Patriots game this weekend? I didn't think an 11-5 record was quite good enough for a 1st round bye, but that must be the case since they didn't play last weekend. Wonder how they'd match up against Tennessee?

/denial mode

130 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:10:05am

RENDER! :-)

131 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:10:40am

Night Slumbering.

132 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:12:36am

Another telling sign that you made the right decision by staying home like a petulant little child was how joyful the enemies of this country .. Boston

You lower yourself. I made my choice because I could not vote for a man that has done more to emasculate the Republican Party that I grew up with. You can continue to throw insults my way if you wish.

133 shiplord kirel  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:13:34am

re: #2 Sharmuta

Modern liberal motto: Evil is the victim of Good.

Remember that in the days and weeks ahead, for the modern liberals will do everything in their power to make sure Evil has allies while Good is punished.

It's starting. Just heard on ABC radio that Israel is considering a cease-fire in Gaza in the aftermath of the UN school incident yesterday. Essentially, they are surrendering to the depraved international media and their ruthless propaganda tactics. At this point, I can only conclude that the latter are consciously aimed at facilitating genocide.

134 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:15:24am

re: #133 shiplord kirel

No.... *shaking head*

135 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:18:17am

re: #132 Mel Lono

I wonder how many times I have held my nose while voting? I only missed one election in my life. One. I still wonder to this day if my vote could have counted.

136 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:18:52am

LaBATTY Blue Where in this diatribe have I whined or complained about the One! This argument started about why I didnt vote J.,McCain. Please read before ingesting. And, BTFW I did vote for all the local and state issues that were important to me and those I care about. Der Arnold is ready to enact state income, sales and gas tax increases that would kill the sixth largest economy in the world. And yeah, I didn't vote for him!

137 shiplord kirel  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:19:15am

re: #134 Sharmuta

No.... *shaking head*

It may only be media dhimmis attempting to connect the human shield success with some kind of offer Israel is considering, when in fact there is no connection. The purpose, of course, is to demonize Israel and facilitate its gradual destruction.

138 Ledger1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:21:08am

re: #133 shiplord kirel

Debka has always been sort of flaky. Can anyone verify this report?

DEBKAfile's military sources report that Israel announced Wednesday, Jan. 7 a three-hour daily halt in military operations from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. as a goodwill gesture for the passage of humanitarian aid. Israel will suspend attacks in certain areas – though not the entire territory - to allow people to get supplies. The measure takes immediate effect.

See: Three hours ceasefire

I see nothing from Carl in Jerusalem at 2:23 AM Pacific time

139 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:21:55am

My first vote in 1976 was for then Mr. Reagan in the primary v. Ford. He was a patient man. So am I.

140 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:22:38am

re: #132 Mel Lono


I made my choice because I could not vote for a man that has done will do more to emasculate the Republican Party United States of America that I grew up with in and served.

And that's how I spent my Election Day....

141 shiplord kirel  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:25:03am

re: #138 Ledger1

Debka has always been sort of flaky. Can anyone verify this report?

DEBKAfile's military sources report that Israel announced Wednesday, Jan. 7 a three-hour daily halt in military operations from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. as a goodwill gesture for the passage of humanitarian aid. Israel will suspend attacks in certain areas – though not the entire territory - to allow people to get supplies. The measure takes immediate effect.

See: Three hours ceasefire

I see nothing from Carl in Jerusalem at 2:23 AM Pacific time

CNN Wire has it:
Israel offers daily break from Gaza strikes

Israel will halt its bombardment of Gaza for three hours every day to allow residents of the Hamas-ruled Palestinian territory to obtain needed supplies, a military spokesman said Wednesday.

The announcement follows Israel’s decision to open a “humanitarian corridor” into Gaza in response to mounting concerns about shortages of food, water and medicine in the territory. The military did not immediately say when the bombing halt would begin, however.

142 gregg  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:25:46am

Oh no, not another global warming post! Well, I'll post it anyway, because it's more about a Russia power play linked to global cooling:

Accuweather.com’s chief long-range and hurricane forecaster Joe Bastardi observed that Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin’s recent cut of gas flows to Europe via Ukraine may have been done so in anticipation of a global cooling cycle on the Jan. 6 “Glenn Beck Show” radio program. Bastardi has a solid reputation among Wall Street traders for understanding weather’s impact on energy commodities.

“The thing I want to bring up here – very interesting – most of the solar cycle studies that we know about and that guys like me read have come out of the Russian scientists,” Bastardi said. “But when Glasnost developed, the Russian scientists, a lot of their ideas on the coming cool period that a lot of us believe is going to occur – ice, rather than fire is the big problem down the road here 2030, 2040, and the reversing cyclical cycles of the ocean – it came out of the East.”

According to Bastardi – Putin is relying on the data from the Russian scientists and wants to bring some European nations to their knees by exploiting their reliance on natural gas when the weather is at its coldest.

“Now my theory – something that I put out and it’s something that’s not something that people want to hear is that Putin knows what is going to happen – or he believes the same way I do about the overall climate pattern. So, if you control the pipeline into Europe, you literally can control Europe without firing a shot – if you control the energy.”

[Link: wattsupwiththat.com...]

143 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:26:25am

I respect your service and will do all I can to live up to the oath that we both took.

144 Ledger1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:27:26am

re: #141 shiplord kirel

Doesn't look good on the surface (at least to me). Does anyone see any good in this 3 hour daily cease fire?

145 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:30:37am

Good Morning LGF.
Israel has apparently agreed to a daily 3 hour ceasefire in order to allow humanitarian supplies to be brought into Gaza.
/How nice for Hamas./

I just watched Israeli Ambassador to Great Britain Ron Prosser being interviewed on BBC Hardtalk. According to him Israel's precondition for a ceasefire is "a mechanism which will prevent smuggling of weapons into Gaza from Egypt."
To me this sounds like lipservice to some kind of bullshit ineffective arrangement over which Israel will have no real control.
/But what do I know?/

Meanwhile on a more positive note, Israel's Cabinet is considering whether to extend its operation to a full occupation of all of Gaza, including the south...

146 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:31:04am

re: #144 Ledger1


I see nothing good coming from the quisling media dictating the terms of Israel's incursion into Gaza.

147 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:31:43am

re: #144 Ledger1

Doesn't look good on the surface (at least to me). Does anyone see any good in this 3 hour daily cease fire?

Daily hudna?

148 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:32:41am

re: #147 Sharmuta

Daily hudna?


Rotating title candidate?

149 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:32:51am

Playing nice gets the Israelis nothing, nothing, every time it's tried.

150 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:37:53am

re: #149 Sharmuta


Why do you think those f*cking quislings in the MSM want Israel to play nice on the battlefield and at the negotiating table?

151 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:38:01am

re: #149 Sharmuta

Playing nice gets the Israelis nothing, nothing, every time it's tried.

Sharmuta .. this battle is lost if its played nice, and accomodates either the US requests or the media's push for a treaty. This goes on every time that things go the right way for the Israelis .. and its just about time that diplomacy either worked with some gain or benefit for the Israelis to get out of a ceasefire, or its time to change the realities on the ground.

Dont forget .. for Yom Kippur this year .. the Iranians sent a New Year gift of 1000 tonnes of radioactive sand. Not even with a HAPPY NEW YEAR card either.

Dont kid yourself. Israel cant afford to do things by halves at this point in time.

152 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:41:07am

re: #150 Fenway_Nation

Why do you think those f*cking quislings in the MSM want Israel to play nice on the battlefield and at the negotiating table?

Because Evil is the victim of Good and needs allies.

153 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:41:15am

re: #146 Fenway_Nation

I see nothing good coming from the quisling media dictating the terms of Israel's incursion into Gaza.

Follow his path, share his fate: Vidkun Quisling

Never has a person's name so perfectly echoed his role in history:

"To writers, the word Quisling is a gift from the gods. If they had been ordered to invent a new word for traitor... they could hardly have hit upon a more brilliant combination of letters. Actually it contrives to suggest something at once slippery and tortuous."
154 Ledger1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:46:46am

re: #146 Fenway_Nation

I don't see this but a 3 hour chance for more hostage taking, human shields to be gotten, and stupid “peace protesters” to hamstring military operations.

re: #147 Sharmuta

Heh, Daily hudna? That is about the size of it.


This is no way to fight and win a war against a brutal enemy who has many rich friends in the area.

155 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:46:48am

re: #148 Fenway_Nation

re: #150 Fenway_Nation

Safe to talk football.. then Chargers v. Steelers.... ever try to catch a squirrel on an ice rink?

156 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:47:40am

re: #153 Shiplord Kirel

There are comparisons throughout history.

And fiction too.

Follow his path, share his fate: Zaphod BeebleBrox

If only he'd used his two heads for good instead of just going out, becoming president of the galaxy, and stealing a spaceship with a galactic hyperdrive, there would never have been any need for bringing the mice back in from the cold.

Damn Vogon Hyperspace bypass.

157 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:50:48am

re: #156 Buster Bunny

"Quisling" as chief traitor and collaborator is like having Dimmie von Schill as the president of CNN.
I actually knew a person named "Dimmie" once, a girl in my 6th grade class.

158 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:51:23am

re: #153 Shiplord Kirel

I only found out in the last decade that Quisling was actually a person. Made me wonder how many Quislings there currently are in the Oslo phone directory...

159 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:01:19am

Now it's official. Dead

160 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:01:44am

re: #155 Mel Lono


Negatory on the squirrel (or other woodland creature) on the ice rink.

As for the Steelers and Chargers, I;m still having a hard time wrapping my head around an 8-8 team advancing while an 11-5 team sits out the playoffs. But at least I'm not a Colts fan trying to wrap my head around our quarterback winning the MVP, finishing with a 12-4 record and getting bounced out of the 1st round of the playoffs by the aforementioned 8-8 team.

The Dolphins did their level best to make sure everyone forgot they were division winners.

161 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:03:20am

Box of Rain

162 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:04:40am


Scarlet Begonias

163 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:07:02am

From Al Reuters:

Israeli leaders to debate "final" Gaza push

Israeli leaders will debate on Wednesday whether to order their armed forces to storm into the Gaza Strip's urban centres, the planned culmination of a nearly two-week-old offensive, political sources said.

Escalating from a week-long air assault, Israeli troops and tanks invaded the Hamas-ruled territory on Saturday, clashing with Palestinian guerrillas but not advancing beyond the outskirts of the city of Gaza or other densely populated areas.

Israel called the initial ground sweep the "second stage" of the operation, without saying what could follow. The opacity helped spur a frenzy of international mediation to secure a truce under which Hamas would stop cross-border rocket fire.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's security cabinet, due to convene on Wednesday, would discuss the third -- and final -- stage of the offensive, two senior political sources said, though the ministers may defer a vote on approving the plan.

"The plan is to enter the urban centres," said one source, declining to be named.

Postponing a final decision on the plan could allow Israel to keep its forces in readiness while maintaining leeway for any breakthrough in possible truce talks led by Egypt.

Olmert's spokesman Mark Regev declined to comment on Wednesday's meeting, saying: "We do not generally discuss the agendas of the security cabinet."

164 Ledger1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:07:18am

After hearing Israel is letting the “camel” stick its nose under the tent I hold little hope for lasting safety for their civilian population.

I got to sign off.

165 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:09:10am

re: #160 Fenway_Nation

As long as Ben stays put, we have a chance. Defense will win this one. Squirrell Sproles will not be under the radar this time and LT is not healthy. If we can't light up the airways, it'll be a kicker's game. My best guess is 13-9. Chargers. Be Good.

166 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:13:33am

re: #158 Fenway_Nation

I only found out in the last decade that Quisling was actually a person. Made me wonder how many Quislings there currently are in the Oslo phone directory...

Actually there's one. If I read the page correctly. :)

/internet, isn't there anything I can't find?

167 Timbre  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:15:10am

There is a wonderful short book by Isaiah Berlin on Leo Tolstoy's philosophy of history entitled, "The Hedgehog and the Fox." (ISBN 1-56663-019-3). Are you a hedgehog who relates everything to one big thing, or a fox who knows and pursues many things? Great reading!

168 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:17:07am

re: #166 BlueCanuck

Actually there's one. If I read the page correctly. :)

/internet, isn't there anything I can't find?


My Lithuanian Mail-order bride?

/Sure hope that's 'mail' order...not 'male'

169 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:24:23am

re: #168 Fenway_Nation

My Lithuanian Mail-order bride?

/Sure hope that's 'mail' order...not 'male'

Sorry, you are on your own for that one.

/all else fails use babel fish first. :D

170 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:24:34am

re: #165 Mel Lono

Someone should remind Rivers not to get an intentional grounding penalty while in the end-zone this time around.

171 whiterasta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:30:47am

re: #142 gregg

I thought eurabia did not need no stinking carbon-gas. They have windmills......

172 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:31:38am

Good morning, Lizards.

173 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:32:13am

re: #170 Fenway_Nation

Someone should remind Rivers not to get an intentional grounding penalty while in the end-zone this time around.

Not unless it's in the last 20 secs to make it 13-11.

174 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:33:08am

re: #165 Mel Lono

As long as Ben stays put, we have a chance. Defense will win this one. Squirrell Sproles will not be under the radar this time and LT is not healthy. If we can't light up the airways, it'll be a kicker's game. My best guess is 13-9. Chargers. Be Good.

NOOOOOOOOOO!

It's got to be the Steelers!

175 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:34:59am

Good morning {goddess}. Did you enjoy your winter break?

176 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:36:01am

Good morning, goddess.

177 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:37:53am

If Israel wants to win this war, it must now impose a complete news blackout on its Gaza operations. This must include a complete shutdown of all electronic communications between Gazans and the outside, including cellphones and internet.
In this way, Israel will be in a better position to fight its war against the Islamofascist Terrorist Entities in Gaza without being forced to waste its valuable energies on fighting an unwinnable media war being waged against it by the entire MSM.
Nightly press releases by IDF can be used to keep Israelis informed.
In a week or two, as the dust settles on the bones of the enemy, there will be plenty of time for the media feeding frenzy.
Israel is at war and should manage information flows in a way which best serves the war effort.

178 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:38:24am

{BlueCanuck}
{Sharmuta}

Yes, thanks! Of course, now it's back to the whirlwind, but it's fun, too.

179 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:39:42am

Good night Liz. Round 3 tomorrow?

180 gregg  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:43:16am

re: #171 whiterasta

I thought eurabia did not need no stinking carbon-gas. They have windmills......

Russia thinks global cooling is coming and they're planning on using their natural gas to hold Europe hostage - it sounds like the start of a new Cold War (pun intended).

181 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:43:28am

re: #172 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Good morning {goddess}

182 whiterasta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:45:22am

re: #180 gregg

I wonder if Putin knows something The Great Goracle does not know.....

183 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:46:26am

re: #172 goddessoftheclassroom

Hi Teach.

184 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:47:02am

re: #182 whiterasta

The Great Goracle is like most other false prophets. Long on wind and short on facts. I don't think one short term prediction he's made has come true. In fact most of the opposite has happened. I personally am preparing to welcome our polar bear overlords.

185 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:54:53am

re: #182 whiterasta

First cut off the gas supplies of Europe....then they will be easy prey for the super-secret army of highly trained ManBearPigs

186 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:54:56am

re: #182 whiterasta

We are witnessing, I think, an attempt by Russia to blackmail Europe into quietly watching while the Russkies make their move to bring Ukraine to its knees.

187 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:57:20am

re: #186 Spare O'Lake

We are witnessing, I think, an attempt by Russia to blackmail Europe into quietly watching while the Russkies make their move to bring Ukraine to its knees.

I think you're right. I also think that they think America is too tied up in the Middle East/Afghanistan to stop them.

188 Empire1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 3:58:18am

re: #30 rawmuse

You might enjoy Gordon R. Dickson's Tactics of Mistake, then. It's science fiction, from his Childe Cycle -- specifically, early in the history of the Dorsai.

189 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:05:15am

Russia? They're going fascist.

190 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:10:07am

re: #189 Sharmuta

Russia? They're going fascist.

Good morning, {Shar}. I'm sure Putin would love to be "President for Life."

191 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:19:01am

re: #190 scottishbuzzsaw

{Scotti}! Been missing you, Sweetie.

192 abolitionist  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:21:19am

re: #93 Fenway_Nation

Hooray! You've won! I'm sure we're going to be 1000 times better off with Bill Ayer's candidate in the white house.

Hugo Chavez, Vlad Putin and Robert Mugabe seem to second that.

Sojourners, Qadaffy and Achmedinejad, too.

193 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:22:08am

re: #190 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, {Shar}. I'm sure Putin would love to be "President for Life."

Czar Vladimir I.

194 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:24:11am

Good morning

Look for the market to open down as the overnight futures are down fractionally, the Nikkei was up 1.74% but the Hang Seng was down 3.37%.

The drop back is due mainly to the announcement by Alcoa of 13,500 staffing cuts:

U.S. stock futures drop after Alcoa production cut

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Caution from metals giant Alcoa helped drag U.S. stock futures lower on Wednesday as an up-and-down week continued.
S&P 500 futures dropped 6.4 points to 924.10 and Nasdaq 100 futures lost 4.75 points to 1,266.20. Dow industrial futures slipped 64 points.
"Alcoa's production and job cuts announcement came out after the bell last night and that is set to weigh down the market today, in addition to some general edginess ahead of the ADP private sector payrolls report," said Martin Slaney, head of derivatives at London-based GFT.
U.S. stocks closed higher Tuesday as President-elect Obama stumped for his recovery plan on Capitol Hill, even as minutes from the December Open Market Committee meeting offered a bleak view of the economy. The Dow industrials rose 62 points, the Nasdaq Composite rose 24 points and the S&P 500 added 7 points.

195 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:25:10am

re: #191 Sharmuta

{Scotti}! Been missing you, Sweetie.

Missing you, too, Hon...did you have a nice Christmas and New Year's?

196 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:25:57am

re: #193 Spare O'Lake

Czar Vladimir I.

Indeed. Good morning, Spare! How are you today?

197 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:26:03am

Keep an eye on the natural gas situation in Europe. This could et very nasty:

Ukraine gas pipelines shut down

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- The supply of Russian natural gas to Europe through Ukraine completely halted Wednesday, escalating the stand-off over supplies just as temperatures are plunging across the region.
The two sides continued to blame each other for the shortage that is starting to hit numerous European countries, the BBC reported. Russian gas monopoly Gazprom (UK:OGZD: news , chart , profile ) claimed Ukraine had closed the last pipeline to Europe, while Ukraine's Naftogaz said Russia had halted all supplies, the report added.
The row between the two countries erupted after they failed to agree a new pricing deal for natural gas, which resulted in Russia cutting off supplies to Ukraine's domestic market on Jan. 1.
Since then European supplies that pass through Ukraine have been increasingly affected, with Russia accusing Ukraine of stealing gas destined for other countries, while Ukraine has accused Russia of slowly turning off the taps.

198 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:26:34am

Someone should tell Putin to just keep his shirt on.

199 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:29:14am

re: #195 scottishbuzzsaw

I can't complain. You?

200 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:29:21am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

A question for you - what is a snuggie? Seen ^^^^and I've never heard of it :-)

Another hot night in Sydney, cool change on the way

Cool Change - Little River Band - great Aussie band from the 70s

201 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:29:31am

re: #196 scottishbuzzsaw

Indeed. Good morning, Spare! How are you today?

Fine thanks, and you?

202 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:31:12am

re: #199 Sharmuta

I can't complain. You?

Lovely and quiet, the perfect condition for a couple of introverts! ;>)

203 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:31:48am

re: #201 Spare O'Lake

Fine thanks, and you?

Just peachy, now that the coffee is hitting the bloodstream!

204 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:33:06am

And could you help me?

I can't find directions on how to embed a video here, and I didn't take much notice when Charles posted everything about this

So how do I do it? Thanks in advance :-)

205 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:33:56am

re: #200 aussiemagpie

Snuggie

206 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:35:59am

re: #204 aussiemagpie

Just paste the URL into the comment form.

207 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:36:05am

re: #204 aussiemagpie

And could you help me?

I can't find directions on how to embed a video here, and I didn't take much notice when Charles posted everything about this

So how do I do it? Thanks in advance :-)

Just copy and paste the link right into the comment box, without using the link button.

208 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:36:14am

I screwed up positioning the basket thingy that goes over the coffee pot so four cups of water backed up and--along with the coffee grounds--spilled all over the counter, the front of the cabinets and the floor. I didn't notice this until it had quit brewing because I was busy making sure The Kid's snack and drink were in his back-pack and that all his study materials for this week's exams were in place.

So, instead of taking five minutes, it took me almost 45 minutes to get my coffee 'cause grounds were everywhere. I'm about ready to go back to drinking tea in the mornings.

209 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:36:59am

Talk about it being a small world. I used to see this guy hanging around coffee shops around town here.

Suspect Shot Dead After High-Speed Chase in Central Illinois

NORMAL, Ill. — A man suspected of robbing four banks died several hours after being shot by police following a high-speed chase around Normal in central Illinois.

The man, identified by McLean County Coroner Beth Kimmerling as Robert Sylvester of Bloomington, robbed a Bloomington currency exchange at gunpoint on Monday and fled in his vehicle, authorities said.

Click here for photos of the dramatic chase.

Police began a pursuit around 3 p.m. on Interstate 55. Authorities said the chase reached speeds of more than 90 mph.

Witnesses said the 57-year-old Sylvester jumped out of the vehicle near the Peoria exit onto I-74 just north of Normal Community West High School. They say the man leaped over a concrete barrier and showed a gun.

If you look close at the pictures, you can see he was smoking a cigar when he tried to shoot it out with the police.

210 abolitionist  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:38:03am

re: #208 MandyManners

Tea may be disageeable on an empty stomach. It is for me.

211 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:38:45am

re: #208 MandyManners

Bummer. That should be your biggest problem of the day.

212 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:38:51am

re: #198 Spare O'Lake

Someone should tell Putin to just keep his shirt on.

Not bad for a 56-year-old man.

213 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:39:05am

re: #206 Sharmuta

That was not what I thought it was. Let me try again

214 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:39:33am

re: #210 abolitionist

Tea may be disageeable on an empty stomach. It is for me.

My tummy's fine with tea but, the caffeine is just too powerful.

215 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:39:45am

re: #208 MandyManners

I screwed up positioning the basket thingy that goes over the coffee pot so four cups of water backed up and--along with the coffee grounds--spilled all over the counter, the front of the cabinets and the floor. I didn't notice this until it had quit brewing because I was busy making sure The Kid's snack and drink were in his back-pack and that all his study materials for this week's exams were in place.

So, instead of taking five minutes, it took me almost 45 minutes to get my coffee 'cause grounds were everywhere. I'm about ready to go back to drinking tea in the mornings.

Been there, done that with a 10-cup pot, what a mess! Condolences!

216 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:40:42am

Breakfast...BBIAB.

217 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:41:15am

re: #211 Spare O'Lake

Bummer. That should be your biggest problem of the day.

This is what I'm thinking. If it is, I'm blessed.

218 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:41:37am

re: #215 scottishbuzzsaw

Been there, done that with a 10-cup pot, what a mess! Condolences!

Ten cups? Oh, brother!

219 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:42:23am

13 days till Obama's inaugural and his new song with R.E.M.

"It's the end of the world and we know it, but I feel fine"

220 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:42:53am

Oil supplies are continuing to back up at sea:

Oil Traders Seek Another 10 Supertankers for Storage

Jan. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Oil traders are seeking as many as 10 supertankers to store crude, potentially taking the amount hoarded at sea to almost five days of European Union demand, according to Frontline Ltd., the largest owner of the vessels.

About 25 of the carriers, each able to hold about 2 million barrels of crude, were already hired for storage. There are enquiries for 5 to 10 more, Jens Martin Jensen, Singapore-based interim chief executive officer of the company’s management unit, said by phone today. Traders are storing crude to take advantage of higher prices for supply in the future.

221 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:42:55am

Gotta go deal with the climate change.
BBL.

222 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:43:40am

The Israeli Air Force learned its lesson from the 2006 campaign against Hezbollah in southern Lebanon.

Hamas is suitably shocked, or so it appears from what Arab language reporters are broadcasting from within Gaza. There's a higher than expected use of faked bomb victim stories, which is largely attributable to the greater precision with which the air force is identifying and hitting targets. Hamas appears to be in disarray, having been hit with a more devastating attack than their Hezbollah advisors had endured. As a result, Hezbollah is getting nervous about what a second round of fighting in southern Lebanon might do to them.

The U.S. has supplied Israel with just about every smart bomb in the American arsenal. Not just to help out an ally, but so that American and Israeli air force planners can compare notes after this is all over

Looks like those 4K microJDAMs are being used up pretty fast.

223 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:45:13am

re: #215 scottishbuzzsaw

Been there, done that with a 10-cup pot, what a mess! Condolences!

Ours claims to be a 10 cupper, too. But we only get 4 mugs from it.

Prolly a lesson somewhere in there, but I'm not going to look too hard for it.

224 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:45:59am
225 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:46:10am

re: #205 Neo Con since 9-11

Snuggie

Thanks so much, it sounded for a moment like disposable nappies (what you call diapers)!

And they look a bit like monk's robes

226 legalpad  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:46:11am

re: #209 3 wood

This guy is 57? He looks 70-something. And what a tiny little gun! And no cover! Just stand there by your car and shoot it out with two or three guys that your own tax money pays! I guess you have to be mental to get your money like that -

227 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:46:43am

re: #223 razorbacker

Ours claims to be a 10 cupper, too. But we only get 4 mugs from it.

Prolly a lesson somewhere in there, but I'm not going to look too hard for it.

I suspect there's math stuff involved. I'd leave it alone, too.

228 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:47:14am

re: #206 Sharmuta

Just paste the URL into the comment form.

Thanks :-) Too easy!

229 abolitionist  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:47:47am

re: #220 3 wood

Oil supplies are continuing to back up at sea:

Oil Traders Seek Another 10 Supertankers for Storage

For the very short term, that may be sensible. But if those are tankers diverted from routine transport, that strategy effectively constricts supply, and drives up price.

230 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:48:26am

re: #207 Spare O'Lake

Just copy and paste the link right into the comment box, without using the link button.

Thanks :-)

I'll have a go before too many people are here to see me stuff it up!

231 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:48:35am
232 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:48:41am

re: #228 aussiemagpie

Also- below the comment form, under "How to enter special characters" is "How to embed videos". But yes- it's incredibly easy.

233 Rancher  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:49:37am

Israel has called a cease fire. Maybe they don't deserve to survive. What does Russia care about world opinion? They seem to survive.

234 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:50:22am

The MSM is trying to figure out how to deal with Franken.

Al Franken presents a challenge for Hill reporters
Commentary: Can journalists look past the goofy persona of the politician?

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - When I ponder the legacy of U.S. Senator-to-be Al Franken, I find it hard not to laugh. And I mean that respectfully.

Well, I predict they will make the guy out to be the 2nd coming of Woodrow Wilson. Get a load of this slobbering from the same article:

Franken began to carve out a more thoughtful persona in his best-selling books and, especially, during his show on left-leaning Air America Radio.
Still, I suspect that reporters who grew accustomed to laughing at Franken's antics and characters now have the challenge of accepting the notion that he seems poised to join the hallowed U.S. Senate, representing Minnesota.
Two months after Gopher State voters went to the polls to elect a senator, Franken finally has been declared the unofficial winner. While the outcome may continue to be tied up in lawsuits a bit longer, Franken has apparently defeated Republican Norm Coleman by a scant margin of a few hundred votes.
"Reporters will have to get past the celebrity aspect and his 'Saturday Night Live' characters," noted Michael Calderone, media reporter for Politico.com.
Calderone suggests that the lengthy recount actually helped Franken in his attempt to craft a weightier image with journalists and the American public.
"The Minnesota Senate race was so closely watched that people got to watch him throughout and some people are already comfortable with him as a political person," Calderone said.

The MSM has no end to their shameless worship of the left.

235 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:50:36am

re: #227 MandyManners

Congratulations, I just noticed you recently became the lizard with the most posted comments having finally surpassed the departed Babba.

236 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:50:50am

re: #200 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

A question for you - what is a snuggie? Seen ^^^^and I've never heard of it :-)

Another hot night in Sydney, cool change on the way

Cool Change - Little River Band - great Aussie band from the 70s

Morning aussie. Well done to your teams win. SA almost drew this only 10 balls. Smith is a warrior. Looking forward to the 20 20 and one days.

237 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:51:19am

re: #232 Sharmuta

Also- below the comment form, under "How to enter special characters" is "How to embed videos". But yes- it's incredibly easy.

Oh dear, I didn't see that at all (even with my new glasses)

Thanks!

238 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:51:38am

re: #231 taxfreekiller

Mandy,

that clean up is why dogs live in houses,
one lick at a time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I don't know if I like the idea of a Yorkie eating coffee grounds--she's hyper as is.

239 rightside  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:51:42am

Morning Lizards.

240 gregg  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:51:55am

re: #200 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Another hot night in Sydney, cool change on the way

Cool Change - Little River Band - great Aussie band from the 70s

Cool Change / Help Is On Its Way / Reminiscing / Lady - Nice trip down memory lane - thanks.

241 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:52:07am

re: #233 Rancher

Israel has called a cease fire. Maybe they don't deserve to survive. What does Russia care about world opinion? They seem to survive.

A cease-fire? THEY JUST GOT GOING!

242 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:52:40am

re: #235 Neo Con since 9-11

Congratulations, I just noticed you recently became the lizard with the most posted comments having finally surpassed the departed Babba.

I think Realwest has more. I haven't checked.

243 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:52:43am

re: #229 abolitionist

For the very short term, that may be sensible.

Good point. Short term is all these guys think about. For them, next month is long term.

244 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:53:51am
245 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:53:52am

re: #236 Erik The Red

Morning aussie. Well done to your teams win. SA almost drew this only 10 balls. Smith is a warrior. Looking forward to the 20 20 and one days.

Hello Erik, and yes, Graeme Smith got a standing ovation when he came onto the SCG - It was at work still, but I took time out to watch the last few overs

Man of the Series -Graeme Smith and deservedly so!

246 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:54:03am

Atrocities On Demand

The most useful Palestinian tactic was the staged "atrocity" or "funeral."...Palestinian organizations also find that they can get unfavorable (to their cause) videos on sites like YouTube removed by just complaining to YouTube management. These videos are often, but not always, restored after someone points out to YouTube that they have been played by terrorist supporters.

I've commented before that the mainstream view of Israel has flipped 180 degrees from my youth. For much of the world's population, perception is reality.

Ignore this at your own peril.

247 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:54:25am

re: #240 gregg

Cool Change / Help Is On Its Way / Reminiscing / Lady - Nice trip down memory lane - thanks.

You forgot Reminiscing.

248 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:54:40am
249 legalpad  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:55:20am

re: #212 MandyManners

Not bad for a 56-year-old man.

Yeah - That's more normal. Compare that to the allegedly 57 year-old in the story from #209.

250 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:55:37am

re: #223 razorbacker

Ours claims to be a 10 cupper, too. But we only get 4 mugs from it.

Prolly a lesson somewhere in there, but I'm not going to look too hard for it.

One mug of coffee = 2 cups.

251 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:57:52am

re: #242 MandyManners

I stand corrected, Real is 322 ahead.

252 opnion  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:57:57am

Good morning everybody. I guess we have to reconsider our criticism of Obama for not commenting on the conflict in Gaza.
He appeared weak & indecisive.
Well the Dear Leader has now courageously take a stand, he regrets civilian casualties on both sides.

253 gregg  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:58:54am

re: #247 MandyManners

You forgot Reminiscing.

[Video]

I probably listened to those songs on 8-track tape in my purple Gremlin. I kind of miss the 70's...

254 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 4:59:07am

re: #241 MandyManners

There's talk of a three out break daily to allow supplies into Gaza, or as I dubbed it, "a daily hudna".

255 opnion  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:00:48am

re: #253 gregg

I probably listened to those songs on 8-track tape in my purple Gremlin. I kind of miss the 70's...

"Take it easy on me" was their signature hit. I have them on disk.
Great band

256 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:01:40am

re: #249 legalpad

Yeah - That's more normal. Compare that to the allegedly 57 year-old in the story from #209.

Putin's life of crime allowed him access to KGB health care and gyms.

257 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:01:41am

re: #253 gregg

............a purple Gremlin? Yeash. I thought it was just a movie!

258 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:02:13am

re: #251 Neo Con since 9-11

I stand corrected, Real is 322 ahead.

I figured it was a lot higher.

259 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:02:24am

re: #240 gregg

Cool Change / Help Is On Its Way / Reminiscing / Lady - Nice trip down memory lane - thanks.

Hi, weren't they a great band - we saw them live quite a few times and the shows were always wonderful!

Now to practise embedding

260 Broomer  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:02:25am

re: #254 Sharmuta

There's talk of a three out break daily to allow supplies into Gaza, or as I dubbed it, "a daily hudna".

And if Hamas ever so fire one rocket during that 3 hour windows, shut it down, move the Gazans citizens south and declare absolutely no more ceasefire/lull/truce talks.

Which part of "no rockets" they don't understand?

261 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:02:49am

re: #253 gregg

I probably listened to those songs on 8-track tape in my purple Gremlin. I kind of miss the 70's...

Same thing in my baby-blue Granada.

262 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:04:00am

re: #260 Broomer

Which part of "no rockets" they don't understand?

The "no" part. Oh- and the "rocket" part.

263 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:04:04am

re: #254 Sharmuta

There's talk of a three out break daily to allow supplies into Gaza, or as I dubbed it, "a daily hudna".

This is where a UN-Israeli team would be good: have each truck's contents searched before letting it in.

264 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:05:30am

re: #253 gregg

I probably listened to those songs on 8-track tape in my purple Gremlin. I kind of miss the 70's...

8-tracks were marginally better than the record players that were tried in the 50s, but those blasted 8-track tapes only lasted a very short time before they started dragging and distorting the sound.

So you had to be able to open up the case and use a q-tip and vaseline to lube up the rollers and get some more life from the tape. Just another once-useful skillset that I no longer need.

265 nonic  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:05:33am

IDIOT SIGHTING:
We had to have the garage door repaired. The Sears repairman told us that one of our problems was that we did not have a 'large' enough motor on the opener. I thought for a minute, and said that we had the largest one Sears made at that time, a 1/2 horsepower. He shook his head and said, 'Lady, you need a 1/4 horsepower.' I responded that 1/2 was larger than 1/4. He said, 'NO, it's not .' Four is larger than two..' We haven't used Sears repair since.

IDIOT SIGHTING :
I live in a semi rural area. We recently had a new neighbor call the local township administrative office to request the removal of the DEER CROSSING sign on our road. The reason: 'Too many deer are being hit by cars out here! I don't think this is a good place for them to be crossing anymore.'

IDIOT SIGHTING:
I was at the airport, checking in at the gate when an airport employee asked, 'Has anyone put anything in your baggage without your knowledge?' To which I replied, 'If it was without my knowledge, how would I know?' He smiled knowingly and nodded,
'That's why we ask.'

IDIOT SIGHTING :
The stoplight on the corner buzzes when it's safe to cross the street. I was crossing with an intellectually challenged coworker of mine. She asked if I knew what the buzzer was for. I explained that it signals blind people when the light is red. Appalled, she responded, 'What on earth are blind people doing driving?!' She was a probation officer in Wichita , KS

IDIOT SIGHTING :
At a good-bye luncheon for an old and dear coworker. She was leaving the company due to 'downsizing.' Our manager commented cheerfully, 'This is fun. We should do this more often.' Not another word was spoken. We all just looked at each other with that deer-in-the-headlights stare. This was a lunch at Texas Instruments.

IDIOT SIGHTING :
I work with an individual, a deputy with the Dallas County Sheriffs office, no less. who plugged her power strip back into itself and for the sake of her life, couldn't understand why her system would not turn on.

IDIOT SIGHTING
When my husband and I arrived at an automobile dealership to pick up our car, we were told the keys had been locked in it. We went to the service department and found a mechanic working feverishly to unlock the driver side door. As I watched from the passenger side, I instinctively tried the door handle and discovered that it was unlocked. 'Hey,' I announced to the technician, 'its open!' His reply, 'I know. I already got that side.' This was at the Ford dealership in Canton, MS

STAY ALERT!
They walk among us…... [editor’s note:] but usually only when Congress ISN’T in session.

266 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:06:07am
267 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:06:09am

Head East.

268 legalpad  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:07:31am

re: #256 MandyManners

Putin's life of crime allowed him access to KGB health care and gyms.

Well, old #209 is probably a smoker, drinker, etc. Just take a walk and do some push-ups old man! Don't need much money to be reasonably fit.

269 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:08:36am

re: #266 reine.de.tout

Paris "Peace Activists" Cap Off Rally With Looting Spree

Looting for peace? That's like fucking for virginity.

270 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:09:12am

re: #268 legalpad

Well, old #209 is probably a smoker, drinker, etc. Just take a walk and do some push-ups old man! Don't need much money to be reasonably fit.

I doubt he hangs out with a healh-conscious crowd.

271 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:10:37am

re: #269 MandyManners

Looting for peace? That's like fucking for virginity.

I just love your expressions!

272 legalpad  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:10:46am

re: #265 nonic

OK - that's getting forwarded!

273 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:11:00am

re: #266 reine.de.tout

That is not a "Paris Peace Activists" rally. That is you-tube video from election night parties!

275 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:11:56am

re: #239 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Morning, rightside...

276 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:11:57am

re: #269 MandyManners

Looting for peace? That's like fucking for virginity.

Once again 2M you knock it out the park. LOL

277 Rancher  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:12:16am

re: #241 MandyManners

A cease-fire? THEY JUST GOT GOING!


A three hour a day ceasefire for humanitarian aid to come in. That Hamas will steal and sell. Not to mention what arms and ammo get smuggled in with the aid. Of course now the world will love Israel and quit calling the war genocide.

278 Gang of One  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:12:18am

re: #3 Syrah

Do they have students read Niccolo Machiavelli in college nowadays?

Probably not, seeing as he's a DWM -- Dead White Male, and we can't have any of those popping up in our classrooms.
/c'mon

279 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:12:45am

re: #223 razorbacker

Ours claims to be a 10 cupper, too. But we only get 4 mugs from it.

Prolly a lesson somewhere in there, but I'm not going to look too hard for it.

LOL! Same here...

280 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:13:21am

Gotta' go beat The Kid. bbl

281 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:15:13am

re: #265 nonic

Hello{nonic}!

Now those examples were just brilliant - thanks for posting them

282 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:15:49am

Mandy, et al:

Israel halts campaign for 3 hours to let in aid

I just can't help but feel this will backfire. Playing nice never gets Israel anything but more violence from hamas.

283 nonic  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:15:59am

re: #272 legalpad

That was the idea. :-)

284 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:16:15am

re: #277 Rancher

A three hour a day ceasefire for humanitarian aid to come in. That Hamas will steal and sell. Not to mention what arms and ammo get smuggled in with the aid. Of course now the world will love Israel and quit calling the war genocide.

Hey Rancher I haven't seen you around for a while. Thought maybe Rustler tied you up or something. How's prison treating you?

285 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:17:28am

Just getting ready for Australia Day, 26/1/2009

I'm going embedding crazy :-)

286 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:17:54am
287 nonic  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:20:32am

re: #281 aussiemagpie

Hi. :-) We got REALLY bad ice this morning in NJ-NY. How's summer by you?

288 bloodnok  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:22:13am

Ugh. I can hear the rain and ice hitting the window. It is gonna be a fun walk to work through windy Boston.

289 Rancher  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:23:34am

re: #284 Erik The Red

Hey Rancher I haven't seen you around for a while. Thought maybe Rustler tied you up or something. How's prison treating you?


The prison is running me ragged. I've got three jobs with three bosses and then they threw me into Disciplinary for two weeks to replace a vacationing Lieutenant. So with all this work to do yesterday they pulled me to help search B pod. I'm loving it though.

290 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:24:16am

re: #287 nonic

Hi. :-) We got REALLY bad ice this morning in NJ-NY. How's summer by you?

Heatwave conditions here, however a cool change is on the way - a bit of a breeze has started now so it should be a lot cooler later today

It was one of those "cook an egg on the footpath" days ....

291 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:27:48am

More screwed up story of how really bad the Main Stream Moron's are

292 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:28:28am

[Link: www.strategypage.com...]

#291 Sorry, I screwed up!

293 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:29:42am

re: #288 bloodnok

Ugh. I can hear the rain and ice hitting the window. It is gonna be a fun walk to work through windy Boston.

Time for the silly shuffle-on-ice walk...Monty Python would be proud!

294 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:31:39am

Later, gators!

295 abolitionist  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:34:09am

70,000 Iranian students 'volunteer to carry out suicide bombings in Israel'

but President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has not responded to their request for permission.

Maybe they get extra credit in their "international peace studies" courses?

296 jester6  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:34:26am

re: #282 Sharmuta

The tactical disadvantage created by a 3 hour lull is outweighed by the good PR it brings.

I want to see Hamas crushed and I fear the IDF might one day have to bulldoze Gaza in the Mediterranean. But for now, the IDF still knows the war is being waged in the diplomatic and media theaters as well.

297 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:36:11am

The Spotted Owl's New Nemesis

I don't know if this is sadly funny, or mockingly ironic, or just pathetic.

But it also proves that global warmening is useful for explaining just about everything.

298 Crux Australis  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:38:41am

re: #285 aussiemagpie

Thank you aussiemagpie. That rendition literally sent shivers down my spine.

As for that cool change. A southerly change can take 1-2 hours to cross the sprawl of Sydney.

299 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:41:21am

Nobody can accuse the IDF of hitting innocent targets. Look at the secondary explosions.

300 jester6  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:41:37am

re: #297 razorbacker

The Spotted Owl's New Nemesis

I don't know if this is sadly funny, or mockingly ironic, or just pathetic.

But it also proves that global warmening is useful for explaining just about everything.

It's Gods Will, In Shala, Global Warming. You can use them interchangeably.

301 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:43:22am

re: #298 Crux Australis

Thank you aussiemagpie. That rendition literally sent shivers down my spine.

As for that cool change. A southerly change can take 1-2 hours to cross the sprawl of Sydney.

The cool breeze is just hitting us now, and it's lovely

Should get to you in an hour or so :-)

I love that Seekers video...

302 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:43:30am

re: #293 scottishbuzzsaw

Time for the silly shuffle-on-ice walk...Monty Python would be proud!

Yup. It's "kid wearing skates" time for me!

303 Salamantis  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:44:50am

re: #296 jester6

The tactical disadvantage created by a 3 hour lull is outweighed by the good PR it brings.

I want to see Hamas crushed and I fear the IDF might one day have to bulldoze Gaza in the Mediterranean. But for now, the IDF still knows the war is being waged in the diplomatic and media theaters as well.

The tactic also is meant to drive a wedge between the Hamas jihadis and the rest of the Gazans. I don't foresee such a tactic having much success, but it's worth a (provisional) try. I don't expect it to last, as I expect Hamas jihadis to break the daily truces, and thus end them. Israel could be counting on this happening, and it could be part of their wedge strategy.

304 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:47:38am

re: #285 aussiemagpie

Just getting ready for Australia Day, 26/1/2009



I'm going embedding crazy :-)

Beautiful...

305 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:48:05am

The European Union has demanded the immediate restoration of gas supplies from Russia as the East-West energy crisis sharply pushed up fuel prices and as shortages began to bite across a freezing Europe.

Or they will do...what...exactly?

Perhaps they expect the evile American hegemony to saber-rattle the Russians into turning the gas back on?

306 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:49:30am

re: #304 scottishbuzzsaw

Beautiful...

Hi, and yes it's just such a wonderful song

Makes me feel tingly all over (not just my leg) :-)

307 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:50:11am

[Link: www.debka.com...]

DEBKAfile's military sources report that Israel announced Wednesday, Jan. 7 a three-hour daily halt in military operations from 1 p.m. to 4 p.m. as a goodwill gesture for the passage of humanitarian aid. Israel will suspend attacks in certain areas – though not the entire territory - to allow people to get supplies. The measure took immediate effect. Ashkelon took 4 rockets as the Israeli pause began.


Well good will gestures are working just dandy

308 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:51:36am

Did you know that this year is

The International Year of Astronomy

2009 marks the 400th anniversary of Galileo Galilei's first
astronomical observation through a telescope. It will be a year of worldwide celebration, promoting astronomy and its contribution to
society and culture

309 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:52:03am

re: #306 aussiemagpie

Hi, and yes it's just such a wonderful song

Makes me feel tingly all over (not just my leg) :-)

Good morning...I'll always have a soft spot for your country for taking in my outlawed clan!

310 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:52:30am

Hey aussie and crux have you seen this?
'Penis fire' suspect is charged

Remind me to never piss off a Sheila.

311 DaddyG  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:53:50am

Thank goodness the Coleman campaign is fighting the result of the recount circus. I have been wondering why the Coleman campaign didn't challenge some of the obvious fraud going on during the election. Reports indicate that some of the things concerned conservatives have been calling for the Coleman campaign to fight weren't options until the lawsuit challenge phase which has just begun.

Coleman sues over Minnesota Senate recount result

A lawsuit gives both sides options they lacked during the recount, such as accessing voter rolls, inspecting machines and introducing testimony from election workers.
Coleman's filing includes some of the points his lawyers have been making for weeks. It centers mainly on claims that hundreds of rejected absentee ballots from Republican-leaning areas should have been part of the recount, that some ballots in Democratic territory were counted twice and that election officials were wrong to use machine tallies for a Minneapolis precinct where ballots went missing.

But there are new angles, too.

The lawsuit alleges that the Canvassing Board made mistakes when determining voter intent on challenged ballots, that ineligible voters cast ballots and that some absentee ballots were erroneously opened early, raising chain-of-custody concerns.

As nasty as this makes our election process look - I am glad that someone is fighting back against this blatent fraud or at the very least shoddy election practices (and that is being generous). I hope the result is a public exposure and purging of some of the practices the Dems have been using to steal elections from legitimate voters the last few decades.

312 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:54:08am

re: #285 aussiemagpie

Just getting ready for Australia Day, 26/1/2009


[Video]

I'm going embedding crazy :-)

Beautiful song, beautifully done!

313 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:55:34am

re: #310 Erik The Red

Oh come on another wacko from you part of the woods aussie. What do you guys smoke over there?///
Sex shop sicko

314 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:58:07am

The BBC bitch had a triumphant little smirk on her face as she announced that Israel had finally bowed to world pressure and agreed to a daily 3 hour ceasefire to help the innocent civilians.

I'd like to wipe that self-satisfied look off her dhimmified face.

Maybe this concession will satisfy the MSM bloodlust, but for how long?
And what will EU, UN and/or MSM say about Hamas missile launches during these humanitarian cease-fires?

315 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:58:31am

French president reports Israel, Palestinian Authority accepted plan for ceasefire presented by Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak Tuesday. Earlier Wednesday Olmert's office says Israel views dialogue as positive step

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

But Hamas Representative in Lebanon says they will not accept truce.

And the beat goes on?

316 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:59:26am

bbl Lizards.

317 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:59:27am

re: #314 Spare O'Lake

The BBC bitch had a triumphant little smirk on her face as she announced that Israel had finally bowed to world pressure and agreed to a daily 3 hour ceasefire to help the innocent civilians.

I'd like to wipe that self-satisfied look off her dhimmified face.

Maybe this concession will satisfy the MSM bloodlust, but for how long?
And what will EU, UN and/or MSM say about Hamas missile launches during these humanitarian cease-fires?

Apparently it isn't really a done deal yet. Which I hope is true. I just hope Israel finishes the job here.

318 itellu3times  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:59:31am

re: #305 razorbacker

The European Union has demanded the immediate restoration of gas supplies from Russia as the East-West energy crisis sharply pushed up fuel prices and as shortages began to bite across a freezing Europe.

Or they will do...what...exactly?

Eat more lentils.

319 Salamantis  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:59:48am

re: #315 Nevergiveup

French president reports Israel, Palestinian Authority accepted plan for ceasefire presented by Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak Tuesday. Earlier Wednesday Olmert's office says Israel views dialogue as positive step

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

But Hamas Representative in Lebanon says they will not accept truce.

And the beat goes on?

The Syrian and Lebanese Hamas are willing to fight to the last Gazan.

320 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 5:59:57am

re: #314 Spare O'Lake

And what will EU, UN and/or MSM say about Hamas missile launches during these humanitarian cease-fires?

Nothing is my guess.

321 DaddyG  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:00:31am

re: #314 Spare O'Lake

The BBC bitch had a triumphant little smirk on her face as she announced that Israel had finally bowed to world pressure and agreed to a daily 3 hour ceasefire to help the innocent civilians.

I'd like to wipe that self-satisfied look off her dhimmified face.

Don't worry - the way Britain is going she will have to veil it soon enough for her new overlords.

322 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:00:45am

re: #319 Salamantis

The Syrian and Lebanese Hamas are willing to fight to the last Gazan.

As are most Arab leaders.

323 itellu3times  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:00:51am

re: #314 Spare O'Lake

And what will EU, UN and/or MSM say about Hamas missile launches during these humanitarian cease-fires?

They will smile and say the cease-fire is working and the little dears are acting normally.

324 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:01:45am

Morning Everyone!

What's up?

325 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:02:06am

re: #314 Spare O'Lake

The BBC bitch had a triumphant little smirk on her face as she announced that Israel had finally bowed to world pressure and agreed to a daily 3 hour ceasefire to help the innocent civilians.

I'd like to wipe that self-satisfied look off her dhimmified face.

Maybe this concession will satisfy the MSM bloodlust, but for how long?
And what will EU, UN and/or MSM say about Hamas missile launches during these humanitarian cease-fires?

Hamas indicates it won't fire rockets during lull

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

And we all know how well Hamas keeps promises?

326 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:02:53am

re: #295 abolitionist

70,000 Iranian students 'volunteer to carry out suicide bombings in Israel'

Maybe they get extra credit in their "international peace studies" courses?

what a crock...some student said in a letter....no official sanction blah blah...yes 70k explosive laden student walk into Gaza looking for the IDF....how does this stuff even get printed?...it's less than propaganda it's lunacy...

327 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:03:18am

re: #324 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning Everyone!

What's up?

Good morning, {Vet}...

328 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:04:12am

re: #326 albusteve

what a crock...some student said in a letter....no official sanction blah blah...yes 70k explosive laden student walk into Gaza looking for the IDF....how does this stuff even get printed?...it's less than propaganda it's lunacy...

I guess they don't have to many maps in Iran. It's a long walk from Teheran to Tel Aviv?

329 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:05:14am

I know that President Bush is hosting Obama and all the past live American Presidents. Fine, dandy, sure but why oh why invite Carter?

330 Salamantis  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:06:24am

re: #329 Nevergiveup

I know that President Bush is hosting Obama and all the past live American Presidents. Fine, dandy, sure but why oh why invite Carter?

To keep him out of Damascus for a while?

331 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:06:35am

re: #328 Nevergiveup

I guess they don't have to many maps in Iran. It's a long walk from Teheran to Tel Aviv?

well DUH!...Achmed where is the compass?...where are we?

332 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:07:40am

Hamas says no to permanent ceasefire

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

If they want to be martyrs, I say let's accommodate them?

333 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:08:04am

re: #325 Nevergiveup

Hamas indicates it won't fire rockets during lull

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

And we all know how well Hamas keeps promises?


See my #307, Debka is reporting 4 rockets launched into Israel in the first hour of the "lull"

334 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:08:06am

re: #327 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' Scottish! {smooch}

Is there news from Realwest?

335 Salamantis  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:08:11am

re: #328 Nevergiveup

I guess they don't have to many maps in Iran. It's a long walk from Teheran to Tel Aviv?

That walk through Iraq would be a real killer...;~)

336 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:08:55am

re: #309 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning...I'll always have a soft spot for your country for taking in my outlawed clan!

Yes, the prison colony called Australia!

We celebrate our past on the 26th January, Australia Day

337 MJ  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:08:57am

From Martin Kramer.
Don't let Juan Cole win----

Juan Cole is running two campaigns on his blog. One is against Israel—business as usual for Cole. The other is promoting his blog in the 2008 Weblog Awards competition (Middle East category), where there are ten finalists (I am one).

Yesterday, Cole called on his readers to turn out and vote for him. His pitch? "The 'Middle East' category is dominated by Neocons. Where are Marc Lynch (Abu Aardvark), Helena Cobban, Angry Arab, Raed in the Middle, etc., etc. I think the initial nomination voting must have been orchestrated." In other words: a neocon conspiracy! It's even subverted the 2008 Weblog Awards!

So Cole, having raised the specter of the neocons, riled up his supporters, and his vote count rose considerably, putting him in the lead. But at that point, he must have realized that it was unseemly for him to have dismissed the procedures of an award he might even win. (Hey, with all those neocon blogs splitting the neocon vote, he could emerge on top! They've screwed up, like in Iraq!) No problem. Just cut out the offending passage, as though it never existed.

I'm a collector of Cole's retro-editing of blog posts. He'll write something erroneous or outrageous, and then excise it from the record, without so much as a strikeout. In one instance, he made a crude insinuation against me, then deleted it. In another, he wrote that 9/11 was "in response to the Israeli attack on the Jenin refugee camp," which he deleted when it turned out that, uh, Israel's Jenin operation took place seven months after 9/11. He even once explained his "policy" on retro-editing—and then deleted that.

Anyway, below is Cole's original blog post of yesterday, which I retrieved from the Google cache not long before it disappeared from there as well. The prospect that Cole might win this award, in the midst of his wildly biased and hate-filled blogging on Gaza, is one I find repulsive. That the award should go to someone who retro-doctors his blog is likewise repulsive. So I urge readers to vote in the Middle East category, inspired by the principle of ABC—Anything But Cole. Vote for my blog (bit of a long shot), or Michael Totten's (a fine blog, which won last year), or Israellycool (which isn't far behind Cole), or any other sane blog. And you can vote once every 24 hours, through January 13. Match Cole's orchestration with your own. Click here to vote:

[Link: 2008.weblogawards.org...]

[Link: sandbox.blog-city.com...]

338 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:09:22am

re: #335 Salamantis

That walk through Iraq would be a real killer...;~)

At least until Jan 20th?

339 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:09:36am

check out the graphic on PJs home page...hilarious...the Obots are getting whiny

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

340 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:10:46am

Just a quick post and go.

Look for the market to take it on the chin today:

ADP shows 693,000 jobs lost in December

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. private-sector firms shed 693,000 jobs in December, far worse than expected, according to the ADP employment index released Wednesday.
Employment in the services sector fell by 473,000, while employment in the goods-producing sectors fell by 220,000.
Large firms cut 91,000 jobs, medium-sized firms cut 321,000 jobs and small firms cut 281,000 jobs.
"Sharply falling employment at medium- and small-size businesses clearly indicates that the recession has now spread well beyond manufacturing and housing-related activities," said economists for Macroeconomics Advisers in a press release. Read the report.
The index is computed by Macroeconomic Advisers using anonymous payroll data collected by ADP. ADP provides payroll and human-resources services to about one in every six U.S. workers, at more than 500 companies.
The methodology for the ADP index has been revised with the aim of making it a better fit with the government figures to be released on Friday. Economists currently expect nonfarm payrolls to have fallen by 500,000 in December.

341 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:10:55am

re: #334 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Mornin' Scottish! {smooch}

Is there news from Realwest?

Nothing yet that I've seen... I'm hoping he's going to show up soon with good news from the doctor. *fingers crossed*

342 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:11:52am

Time for our morning Yellowstone scare story... gee, thanks FNC!

343 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:12:10am

re: #310 Erik The Red

Hey aussie and crux have you seen this?
'Penis fire' suspect is charged

Remind me to never piss off a Sheila.

Yes, saw this - jealous wife syndrome gone a bit too far

Now I would never do something like this, why set the house on fire when an axe will do the job?

Just kidding.......

344 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:06am

Meygen Kelly ( wearing a very fetching red blouse today ) said that she ( as a lawyer ) was born to be loquacious. Since I'm a gentleman ( OK stop laughing ) I will not comment further.

345 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:16am

re: #341 scottishbuzzsaw

Nothing yet that I've seen... I'm hoping he's going to show up soon with good news from the doctor. *fingers crossed*

I hope you are right, the silence has made me pretty nervous. I pray he did not get bad news.

346 tfc3rid  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:13:20am

Good morning all...

So, I read through the morning digest of the Congressional Register as I usually do, to make sure there is nothing screwry out there...

Of course, the revised rules package passed the House along party lines, as expected. There were some interesting extended remarks from Rep. John Conyers who asked that the House reintroduce the Reparations Act for African Americans... Just sayin'...

347 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:14:15am

You wanna get really angry?
Getta load of CUPE Ontario President Sid Ryan's letter to the editor in today's National Post.
And look who he cites as support for his anti-Semitic plan to ban Israeli professors from teaching at Canadian Universities unless they first publicly denounce Israel.

[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

348 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:14:30am

re: #346 tfc3rid

Good morning all...

So, I read through the morning digest of the Congressional Register as I usually do, to make sure there is nothing screwry out there...

Of course, the revised rules package passed the House along party lines, as expected. There were some interesting extended remarks from Rep. John Conyers who asked that the House reintroduce the Reparations Act for African Americans... Just sayin'...

They got the Presidency, what else do they want? Just saying.

349 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:15:32am

re: #346 tfc3rid

Oh, it's coming. Change!

The "Economic Fairness" Act of 2009.

Whitey will be paying for slavery until being beheaded by our Islamic overlords...

350 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:17:08am

re: #347 Spare O'Lake

You wanna get really angry?
Getta load of CUPE Ontario President Sid Ryan's letter to the editor in today's National Post.
And look who he cites as support for his anti-Semitic plan to ban Israeli professors from teaching at Canadian Universities unless they first publicly denounce Israel.

[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

where else will the Thought Police emerge?...what a shameful display of ignorance....how ironic

351 rain of lead  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:17:34am

morning lizards
todays gorebull warming update
the sun is STILL asleep
that is all, carry on.

352 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:17:58am

re: #348 Nevergiveup

They got the Presidency, what else do they want? Just saying.

your MIND!...mwahahahaha

353 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:18:03am

In Honor of all our Friends from Australia:

119 Rooms, 70,000 Square Feet and One Lucky Australian

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

G-D Bless Australia!

354 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:18:42am

re: #347 Spare O'Lake

From the link:

Are they all bigots?

Why, yes, as a matter of fact, they are!

355 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:19:13am

Good Morning Lizards!

I am coming to you from home on this icy/rainy day in CT. It is a mess out there. I drove my wife to work since she works just 1.5 miles from home, but I am not driving the 20 miles to my office.

356 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:20:06am

re: #312 reine.de.tout

Beautiful song, beautifully done!

Hello reine, I'm so glad you enjoyed it!

357 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:20:10am

Boston College coach Jeff Jagodzinski did indeed interview with the New York Jets and he will therefore not be retained by the school, two people close to the situation told ESPN's Joe Schad on Tuesday.

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

Just another indication that any connection to the NY Jets is bad karma. And I should know being a Jet fan myself.

358 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:20:34am

re: #353 Nevergiveup

In Honor of all our Friends from Australia:

119 Rooms, 70,000 Square Feet and One Lucky Australian

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

G-D Bless Australia!

Thank you, Aussies! Y'all are great!

359 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:21:55am

Does anyone need any slush (Blago this does not apply to you)? We have about 3.2 million gallons of it in Boston this morning.

360 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:22:10am

re: #355 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards!

I am coming to you from home on this icy/rainy day in CT. It is a mess out there. I drove my wife to work since she works just 1.5 miles from home, but I am not driving the 20 miles to my office.

Good morning, Ford...my mate and I had an unexpected morning together yesterday due to the impassable ice-covered roads...Enjoy!

361 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:22:12am

re: #313 Erik The Red

Oh come on another wacko from you part of the woods aussie. What do you guys smoke over there?///
Sex shop sicko

LOL! I'm finding this story a bit of a shocker too :-)

362 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:22:26am

re: #359 Bloodnok

Does anyone need any slush (Blago this does not apply to you)? We have about 3.2 million gallons of it in Boston this morning.

What's the shipping cost?

363 Salamantis  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:23:07am

re: #358 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Thank you, Aussies! Y'all are great!

Aussies and Americans share a lot in common; Y'all are descendents of sentenced criminals, and we are descendents of slaves, indentured servants, and religious heretics.

364 Irish Rose  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:23:25am

Good morning, lizards :).
A cold and snowy single digit morning here along the Lake Michigan shoreline.

My USMC son and his Navy gal are still here at home having a nice long rest, it's been a good visit... the last time we're going to see him before he deploys.

His lovely lady treated us all to some fabulous (and I do mean fabulous) homemade authentic Mexican cuisine last night.... everything made from scratch. She spent the whole day in the kitchen yesterday, mixing up goodies while we all chatted and laughed over glasses of sangria. She's of Mexican/Guatemalan descent, and loves to cook... she tells me the only drawback of serving in the Navy is that you can never get into a proper kitchen to do your own cooking.

Even though we did not speak of it this was, of course, the traditional meal presented by the prospective daughter-in-law to the prospective mother-in-law... according to custom. She passed the test with flying colors. This is a lovely girl - beautiful, intelligent and full of life. She is also my namesake. My son has chosen wisely.

Tonight, my son and I are taking her to the pub to show her how the Irish do things ;).

365 Irish Rose  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:23:48am

re: #332 Nevergiveup

Hamas says no to permanent ceasefire

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

If they want to be martyrs, I say let's accommodate them?

I like the way you think.

366 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:24:17am

re: #360 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, Ford...my mate and I had an unexpected morning together yesterday due to the impassable ice-covered roads...Enjoy!

I intend to enjoy being able to hang out here at lgf for a change...

Ok, I intend to enjoy being able to hang out here at lgf without worrying about a boss coming in and catching me for a change.

367 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:24:59am

re: #359 Bloodnok

Does anyone need any slush (Blago this does not apply to you)? We have about 3.2 million gallons of it in Boston this morning.

We have a little here in NY/NJ, but then again we have Teixiera.

368 Maximu§  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:25:40am

re: #364 Irish Rose

Hey Rose, please tell him Hi from my family and he's in our prayers.

369 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:25:58am

re: #362 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

What's the shipping cost?

You could get it the same way I did. By standing on the sidewalk and having a truck blast through a puddle.

370 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:26:28am

re: #367 Nevergiveup

We have a little here in NY/NJ, but then again we have Teixiera.

Did his wife tell you to write that?

371 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:26:42am

re: #369 Bloodnok

You could get it the same way I did. By standing on the sidewalk and having a truck blast through a puddle.

That ain't gonna get it to Illinois. :-)

372 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:27:12am

re: #367 Nevergiveup

We have a little here in NY/NJ, but then again we have Teixiera.

All this Red Sox fan is going to say is that if the games were played on paper I might be worried.

373 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:27:14am

re: #365 Irish Rose

I like the way you think.

And if i ever run into you future daughter-in-law sailor or Marine son I'll be sure to take good care of them. Navy Dentist.

374 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:28:13am

re: #367 Nevergiveup

We have a little here in NY/NJ, but then again we have Teixiera.

I swear the whole "My wife told me to sign with the Yankees" thing is going to be pure GOLD at Fenway this year. I can't wait.

375 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:28:16am

re: #370 Bloodnok

Did his wife tell you to write that?

No but from the looks of her, anything she asked me to do, I'd probably do?

376 Iron Fist  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:28:40am

re: #348 Nevergiveup

The "Reparations" crowd won't be satisfied until they get to own slaves for a while, too. They would consider us to be prime candidates to enslave.

Change you can believe in!

377 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:28:50am

Grr. I am updating my iTunes and it wants me to shut down for the update to complete.

brb.

378 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:29:39am

re: #374 Bloodnok

I swear the whole "My wife told me to sign with the Yankees" thing is going to be pure GOLD at Fenway this year. I can't wait.

Well don't go to hard on Teixeira, he is a Navy Brat. His dad was a Naval Aviator.

379 realwest  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:29:51am

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (59 degrees going up to 62 degrees) rainy and cloudy Charlotte!

Good ole Timwarner had all sorts of problems this morning - no internet services, no TV services - must be all this rain we've had for the last 72 hours or so!

How is everyone doing today?

380 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:29:53am
381 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:29:54am

FNC just teased a story about the improvements being made to the President's limo.

/Man, avoiding making a bunch of rude, racist car comments right now is going to be tough... but I'll try... ok, just one:

Will it have curb feelers?

382 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:30:29am

re: #379 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (59 degrees going up to 62 degrees) rainy and cloudy Charlotte!

Good ole Timwarner had all sorts of problems this morning - no internet services, no TV services - must be all this rain we've had for the last 72 hours or so!

How is everyone doing today?

Worrying about, you, buddy! {RW}

383 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:31:01am

re: #381 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

FNC just teased a story about the improvements being made to the President's limo.

/Man, avoiding making a bunch of rude, racist car comments right now is going to be tough... but I'll try... ok, just one:

Will it have curb feelers?

Oh boy here we go. I thought that was for Asian drivers or little old Jewish drivers in South Florida?

384 Iron Fist  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:31:40am

re: #381 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You know Obama's going to want to "pimp" his ride. Especially with the taxpayers little people on the hook for actually paying for it.

385 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:31:41am

re: #379 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (59 degrees going up to 62 degrees) rainy and cloudy Charlotte!

Good ole Timwarner had all sorts of problems this morning - no internet services, no TV services - must be all this rain we've had for the last 72 hours or so!

How is everyone doing today?

Good Morning, {real}! It's snowing lightly here, after an ice-storm yesterday. How are YOU?

386 Bloodnok  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:31:49am

re: #378 Nevergiveup

Well don't go to hard on Teixeira, he is a Navy Brat. His dad was a Naval Aviator.

Ah. He is from Maryland -Annapolis, I suppose.

/This isn't fair.

387 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:32:40am

re: #383 Nevergiveup

Oh boy here we go. I thought that was for Asian drivers or little old Jewish drivers in South Florida?

No... more like spinning hubcaps and those underbelly lights that make a car look like some sort of hovercraft.

/damn, you squeezed it out of me.

388 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:33:33am

re: #384 Iron Fist

You know Obama's going to want to "pimp" his ride. Especially with the taxpayers little people on the hook for actually paying for it.

I ain't going there... nosiree...

389 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:33:46am

Clashes resume in Gaza City after 3-hour humanitarian truce

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Who ever heard of a War with a half time? Did they have a marching band?

390 turn  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:34:17am

Morning all!

Worries about Realwest, talk of reparations, mouthwatering Mexican food, sex shop sickos and slush, snow and freezing cold. Only at LGF! Ha!

Weather here today 54 deg high and sunny. You can say all you want about how f#$%'d up California is but you sure as hell can't beat the weather.

391 turn  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:35:44am

re: #379 realwest


Hey RW, forget about us. How are YOU doing?

392 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:36:18am

re: #379 realwest

Good to see ya, Congratulations on finally being the commenter with the most number of posts. Be careful tho Mandy is only 300 behind you

393 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:36:43am

re: #389 Nevergiveup

Clashes resume in Gaza City after 3-hour humanitarian truce

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Who ever heard of a War with a half time? Did they have a marching band?

And IDF dancers. Whoo hoo!

394 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:37:20am

The jackass on the BBC is LECTURING the Israel Ambassador to Britain on the "suffering" of the people in Gaza. Hey Putz, you ever hear of Dresden?

395 razorbacker  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:37:47am

I was watching the GMAC Bowl last night (hey, my tax dollars pay for it, I'm going to watch it. Besides, it warms my flinty, black heart to see my neighbors from Tulsa stomp a mud-hole into David Letterman's pet team) and I absentmindedly flip the channel during a commercial.

There is a show called 'Life in Occupied Palestine' by some chick named Ann Blatzer on, and like driving past a bloody accident my eyes were caught in horrified wonder.

According to Ms Blatzer's account, the IDF is fighting a war against toddlers, nursing mothers, and aged grandparents (for those were the only Palestinians depicted). We are served up the factoid that IDF suicides are five times higher than normal folk due to the inhuman acts that the soldiers are required to perform. Israel is depicted as blowing up Palestinian homes for absolutely no reason at all merely to run a wall separating poor oppressed Palestinians from land they have peacefully farmed since Ottoman rule. And those were the good points.

Israel ignores this type of agit-prop to their detriment. But I sincerely doubt that FSTV would air any response, anyway.

BTW, FSTV is a 'free' channel on Dish network. You get it whether you want it or not.

396 turn  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:38:02am

re: #381 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

FNC just teased a story about the improvements being made to the President's limo.

/Man, avoiding making a bunch of rude, racist car comments right now is going to be tough... but I'll try... ok, just one:

Will it have curb feelers?

And a diamond in the back too?

[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]

397 realwest  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:38:04am

re: #382 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT! Y'all don't have to worry about me yet - doc FINALLLY called me around 4:30 PM with not so good news, but not so bad that I'm worried by it
yet. I'm apparently still good to go for another 90 days or so!

398 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:38:10am

re: #394 Nevergiveup

The jackass on the BBC is LECTURING the Israel Ambassador to Britain on the "suffering" of the people in Gaza. Hey Putz, you ever hear of Dresden?

Or, I don't know, Auschwitz?

399 gregg  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:38:12am

re: #285 aussiemagpie

Just getting ready for Australia Day, 26/1/2009


[Video]

I'm going embedding crazy :-)

What a great song! It really captures so much of the history and folklore of Australia.

400 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:38:42am

re: #390 turn

Morning all!

Good morning, turn...

401 realwest  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:39:07am

re: #383 Nevergiveup
No, not curb feelers, but the coolest BOOM BOX SOUND SYTEM EVAH!
lol.

402 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:39:34am

re: #398 Wyatt Earp

Or, I don't know, Auschwitz?

Well Dresden was bombed by the Brits ( and rightfully so ) so maybe a tad more appropriate.

403 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:39:45am

re: #353 Nevergiveup

In Honor of all our Friends from Australia:

119 Rooms, 70,000 Square Feet and One Lucky Australian

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

G-D Bless Australia!

Just love this! Good on President Bush for inviting John Howard to stay at Blair House!

Wouldn't President Elect Obama have somewhere to stay in Washington DC?

I thought he was a Senator? Or did he commute each day?

404 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:39:52am

re: #397 realwest

Hey LT! Y'all don't have to worry about me yet - doc FINALLLY called me around 4:30 PM with not so good news, but not so bad that I'm worried by it
yet. I'm apparently still good to go for another 90 days or so!

Not what we wanted to hear, but not what it could have been, either. Fight on, sir!

405 Broomer  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:40:15am

Did Hamas fire during the 3 hours lull?

406 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:40:21am

Hey Jay777, that minister in your link who said that reading the gospels caused him to vote for Obama? I actually attended his church for a while (pre-moonbatus religiousus phase). He was a gospel preacher before his ego caused him to seek worldly praise. Very sad.

407 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:41:01am
408 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:41:03am

re: #402 Nevergiveup

Well Dresden was bombed by the Brits ( and rightfully so ) so maybe a tad more appropriate.

Yes, but the bulk of Israel's suffering (or that of the Jews) during WWII far exceeds the "suffering" of the people in Gaza. Yet they think they can corner the market on it. Unreal.

409 realwest  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:41:14am

re: #385 scottishbuzzsaw
Hi {scotti} - well I'm ok for another 90 days or so and then we'll see if I'm good to go for another 90 or if I need a biopsy and radiation therapy.
How are you doing?

410 notutopia  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:41:55am

The lion cannot protect himself from traps, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves.
— Niccolo Machiavelli

Cunning, Courage, and Strength.
Sounds like the IDF.

The three hour safe window for Gaza has ended.
Let's see those Gazan humanitarian reloads......

411 Salamantis  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:42:20am

Militant Islam Threatens Us All
Hamas rockets have the same terror goal as Hitler's blitz
By Benjamin Netanyahu

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

412 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:42:25am

re: #403 aussiemagpie

I'm just relishing the thought that Obama was kept out of the Blair House because it was occupied by someone who is actually pro-American.

/life is good...

413 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:42:27am

re: #410 notutopia

The lion cannot protect himself from traps, and the fox cannot defend himself from wolves. One must therefore be a fox to recognize traps, and a lion to frighten wolves.
— Niccolo Machiavelli

Cunning, Courage, and Strength.
Sounds like the IDF.

The three hour safe window for Gaza has ended.
Let's see those Gazan humanitarian reloads......

FIRE IN THE HOLE!

414 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:43:00am

re: #395 razorbacker

. . . According to Ms Blatzer's account, the IDF is fighting a war against toddlers, nursing mothers, and aged grandparents (for those were the only Palestinians depicted). We are served up the factoid that IDF suicides are five times higher than normal folk due to the inhuman acts that the soldiers are required to perform. Israel is depicted as blowing up Palestinian homes for absolutely no reason at all merely to run a wall separating poor oppressed Palestinians from land they have peacefully farmed since Ottoman rule. And those were the good points.
. . .

This blogger(The Angry Arab) has a similar take as to the "war" against toddlers, nursing mothers and aged grandparents . . .

This blogger is a professor of political science at California State University, Stanislaus and visiting professor at UC, Berkeley.

415 lincolntf  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:43:03am

re: #379 realwest

Morning all.
RW, I have been "stuck" with Time Warner cable/internet since I moved to NC. I can't emphasize enough how much I hate their service. I've had to switch boxes twice in one year, often lose access to some random channels (the screen freezes, pixelates, etc.) and can never get any answers/assistance by phone or online. Friggin' monopoly.

416 realwest  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:43:16am

re: #391 turn Uh, y'all might want to check out my #409 as for how I'm doing! Now how are you doing?

417 turn  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:43:30am

re: #400 scottishbuzzsaw

Morning SBZsaw (hard to find an apprievation for that nic!). Oh I see I left out your ice storms in my summary of the thread. You won't find those in California either.

418 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:44:19am

re: #416 realwest

Uh, y'all might want to check out my #409 as for how I'm doing! Now how are you doing?

I'm fine... grumbling that you have 20+ degrees on me, but that's nothing.

419 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:44:22am

re: #417 turn

Morning SBZsaw (hard to find an apprievation for that nic!). Oh I see I left out your ice storms in my summary of the thread. You won't find those in California either.

From a rainy, cold Philadelphia, please accept my response of "Shut it!" :)

420 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:44:36am
421 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:45:05am

re: #417 turn

Morning SBZsaw (hard to find an apprievation for that nic!). Oh I see I left out your ice storms in my summary of the thread. You won't find those in California either.

psst . . try "scotti".

422 realwest  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:45:05am

re: #392 Neo Con since 9-11 Huh? I've had the most comments for - well ever since BabbaZee was banned. As for mandy catching up with me, so what? I haven't received any gold stars or anything for having the most comments, so why should I care?!

423 turn  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:45:34am

re: #397 realwest

Hey LT! Y'all don't have to worry about me yet - doc FINALLLY called me around 4:30 PM with not so good news, but not so bad that I'm worried by it
yet. I'm apparently still good to go for another 90 days or so!

I really admire your positive attitude RW.

424 turn  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:46:08am

re: #419 Wyatt Earp

HaHa.

425 aussiemagpie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 6:46:15am

re: #379 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderate (59 degrees going up to 62 degrees) rainy and cloudy Charlotte!

Good ole Timwarner had all sorts of problems this morning - no internet services, no TV services - must be all this rain we've had for the last 72 hours or so!

How is everyone doing today?

*Smooch* from your Aussie friend :-)

Test results OK? (Hope so darls)