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Say No to Juan Cole

Blogosphere | Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:13:36 pm PST

The “Best Middle East or Africa Blog” category in the 2008 Weblog Awards is currently being dominated by execrable terror apologist professor Juan Cole (“Informed Comment”), after he posted a whiny conspiratorial rant about “neocons” (his favorite demon, aka “Jews”) and begged his audience of leftist drones to vote for him.

Here’s the poll. There are several bloggers in the list who deserve the award far more than Cole. You know what to do: Best Middle East or Africa Blog - The 2008 Weblog Awards.

Also see:
ABC: Anything But Cole [Martin Kramer’s Sandbox]
Michael J. Totten: Stop Juan Cole
Operation Cast Lead Wed Jan 7th, 2009 | Israellycool

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1 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:14:40pm

It's despicable that he was even nominated.

2 Thor-Zone  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:15:44pm

Nothing new about leftists trying to hijack an election

3 The Mongoose  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:16:10pm

Best bet at the moment (if you just want to defeat Cole) is Israellycool with 25% of the vote to Cole's 33%. Michael Totten is the next best at 19%.

4 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:16:42pm

Whoops! Should have posted this here:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

In terms of Pali propaganda, this couldn't be a better example. Juan Cole, the ISM, Adam Shapiro's "brave" wife, Israeli soldiers denounced for "firing on children" (with appropriate Darth-Vaderesque score in the background), and tons of useful idiots weeping over IDF brutality and Israel, the "rogue state".

All packaged for ready consumption and unquestioned by the consumers.

Anybody out there know Korean? I'd love to know what the voice-over is saying...

5 ted  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:17:11pm

Done.

6 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:17:32pm

Shit we talk about The Middle East so much ( and rightfully so ) why aren't we in that category?

7 zombie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:17:41pm

Juan Cole?!?!?!?!?

The man is a lunatic. How can he possibly even be nominated?

I'd rank him among the three worst professors in America, right up there with Leonard Jeffries and Ward Churchill, to name a couple.

8 Lively  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:17:42pm

Voted. Thanks for the link.

9 Alouette  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:18:03pm

The problem is the good guys are split between Israellycool and Michael Totten.

10 Big Steve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:18:21pm

welp......you all have firehosed the weblog awards and I can't get in....damnit!

11 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:18:32pm
12 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:18:35pm

D.A.R.E. to say no to Juan Cole.

13 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:19:06pm

re: #3 The Mongoose

Best bet at the moment (if you just want to defeat Cole) is Israellycool with 25% of the vote to Cole's 33%. Michael Totten is the next best at 19%.

They got my vote - and will continue to do so.

14 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:19:13pm

To be more explicit (I can sometimes be too obscure for my own good), please check out the link in my #4 here to see what kind of vile propaganda Cole gets up to every single day.

15 invictus1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:19:21pm

re: #2 Thor-Zone

Nothing new about leftists trying to hijack an election

If/when he loses, can he ask for a recount? ;-)

16 zombie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:19:26pm

re: #3 The Mongoose

Best bet at the moment (if you just want to defeat Cole) is Israellycool with 25% of the vote to Cole's 33%. Michael Totten is the next best at 19%.

Yes.

Everyone: Focus your votes on Israellycool and Michael Totten. Nothing is gained by spreading around on the other sites.

17 GNIDAthe#seCond  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:19:30pm

GAZA - AP PHOTOSHOP FAKE?

muqata.blogspot.com is imploring readers to examine the following photo for possilbe photoshopping, fautography...

The Photo in question:
[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

18 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:19:36pm

re: #9 Alouette

The problem is the good guys are split between Israellycool and Michael Totten.

Ain't it always so?

19 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:20:18pm
20 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:20:27pm

re: #6 Nevergiveup

Shit we talk about The Middle East so much ( and rightfully so ) why aren't we in that category?

Only one category per blog... so, some bloggers are in categories that you wouldn't normally expect...

21 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:20:46pm

re: #16 zombie

Yes.

Everyone: Focus your votes on Israellycool and Michael Totten. Nothing is gained by spreading around on the other sites.

I voted for Israellycool since:
1. I like his blog, and
2. He has the best chance of beating Juan Cole.

22 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:20:55pm

re: #7 zombie

Juan Cole?!?!?!?!?

The man is a lunatic. How can he possibly even be nominated?

I'd rank him among the three worst professors in America, right up there with Leonard Jeffries and Ward Churchill, to name a couple.

Thy're a couple? I hope they find happiness.

23 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:20:56pm

re: #4 Cato the Elder

I'm surprised the soldiers didn't arrest her or give her a good spray of mace. Also, the video is edited to make it appear that she stops him from firing. He shoots at least one over her head and he gets a couple shots into the mob to his left.

24 CIA Reject  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:20:58pm

Sheesh! I wish I'd known about that guy's website back when I was trying to teach Little Reject how to recognize propaganda...

25 yochanan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:21:02pm

re: #9 Alouette

The problem is the good guys are split between Israellycool and Michael Totten.

as well as elder of zion

26 zombie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:21:23pm

re: #21 Honorary Yooper

I voted for Israellycool since:
1. I like his blog, and
2. He has the best chance of beating Juan Cole.

That's what I did as well.

27 ggt  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:21:32pm

re: #17 GNIDAthe#seCond

GAZA - AP PHOTOSHOP FAKE?

muqata.blogspot.com is imploring readers to examine the following photo for possilbe photoshopping, fautography...

The Photo in question:
[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

Is that an American Flag at the very top of the smoke plume?

28 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:21:50pm
29 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:21:57pm

re: #16 zombie

Yes.

Everyone: Focus your votes on Israellycool and Michael Totten. Nothing is gained by spreading around on the other sites.

U R Bossy

30 The Mongoose  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:22:09pm

re: #16 zombie

Yes.

Everyone: Focus your votes on Israellycool and Michael Totten. Nothing is gained by spreading around on the other sites.

Exactly. I will post updates as best I can, looks like Totten has some momentum so he may become the horse to back. Either way, vote splitting is Cole's friend.

31 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:22:15pm

re: #20 lawhawk

Only one category per blog... so, some bloggers are in categories that you wouldn't normally expect...

Actually i was joking but I guess it is kinda like the Oscars. Why some people are in best Actor/Actress and some are in supporting is always funny.

32 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:22:30pm

Juan Cole? That name sounds like one of the african 419 scam artists I've been baiting.

33 LGoPs  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:22:40pm

Somebody tell Al Gore that Cole is bad for the environment and maybe he'll be disappeared.....
/

34 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:22:55pm

I face a similar situation in the Best Small Blog category, and some site calling itself Rumproast is running away with things.

If you're going to vote there, Nice Deb or Chatting in the Sky are fine... I know I can't possibly catch up to those three leading vote getters; and there's something just a little odd about how rumproast is running away with things...

35 GNIDAthe#seCond  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:24:18pm

re: #17 GNIDAthe#seCond
http://muqata.blogspot.com/ - see updates for latest developments. From The Muqata:

Israeli Bloggers question authenticity of AP photograph from "Gaza" -- many believe it is photoshopped or even not from Gaza at all!

The AP Comment for the picture states: "An explosion after an Israeli strike in Beit Lahiya in the northern Gaza Strip on Saturday, as seen from Gaza City. (Adel Hana/Associated Press)"

The following is noted.

1. We don't know of mountains near Gaza like those in the background.
2. The debris "flying" away from the explosion appears to be "photoshopped" in.
3. Israeli bloggers are now trying to determine where this photo is really from in the first place

(source from rotter, Israeli bloggers)

36 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:24:22pm
37 NY Nana  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:25:11pm

re: #34 lawhawk

Done. Good luck! The power of the Lizard Army is excellent, as is your blog.

38 jorline  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:25:17pm

done

39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:25:17pm

From Muqata; I knew this would creep in sooner or later.

7:45 PM Foreign sources are saying that the US has supplied the Israel Air Force with many new types of ammunition to test them out in Gaza.

40 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:26:35pm
41 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:26:35pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

From Muqata; I knew this would creep in sooner or later.

why that's never been done in all the history of warfare...splendid idea!

42 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:26:35pm

In fact, Nice Deb reports that Wonkette is pushing traffic to beat PUMA and conservative bloggers in the contests.

43 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:26:42pm

This is odd.....
UN: Israel admits rocket fire was not from within school

Israel told foreign diplomats Wednesday that Palestinian militants had not fired rockets from within a United Nations' school, a UN official said. Israeli military officials said on Tuesday that militants had fired rockets from within the school, and that attack provoked Israeli artillery fire which landed near the school and killed more than 40 Palestinians in the Jabalia refugee camp, many of whom were seeking refuge from fighting.

"The Israeli army is briefing diplomats privately that the militant fire from Jablia yesterday did not come from inside the UNRWA school compound, but from the outside," said Chris Gunness, a spokesman for the UN Relief Works Agency, which aids Palestinian refugees.

Gunness said the claim was a "major allegation against a neutral UN development agency" which "within a day turns out to be completely baseless."

UNRWA's Gaza director, John Ging, had said earlier that to the best of his knowledge no rockets were fired from within the school.

An Israeli military spokesman declined comment.

How do we tell who paid for this press release? Is it really from the UN?

44 VioletTiger  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:26:51pm

That was easy. Next?

45 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:27:14pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

From Muqata; I knew this would creep in sooner or later.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

46 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:27:49pm
47 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:27:59pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

I call bullshit. There's no source.

48 Thor-Zone  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:28:04pm

re: #19 taxfreekiller

Any thing is possible, Obama will be Pres. Jan. 20.

If Al Gore does not over heat us first.


As cold as it has been here lately, I am clearly "Another Alaskan In Favor Of Global Warming"

/channeling recently viewed bumber sticker in Talkeetna

49 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:28:06pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

From Muqata; I knew this would creep in sooner or later.

Wait a minute - I thought it was the Zionists who were the puppet-masters, and the military-industrial complex who were the dupes. Since when is it the other way around?

Does this mean my Zionist World Conspiracy dividend checks aren't gonna come any more?

50 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:28:11pm

Jumping Jacks Fail

US Training, Supporting, Funding FAIL.

This is also who we are fighting against.

51 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:28:11pm
52 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:28:15pm

Sorry to go OT, but I have to re-post this:

If this has been posted already, forgive me!

If not - please do have a look at Your text to link...

There is a photo from AP which is, according to Israelis, not from Gaza, an looks photo-shopped.

I've contacted Charles - there is a direct request for Lizards to get their teeth into this!

53 WitchDoctor  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:28:18pm

Re: #39
I saw that and thought it was odd, why would we need to give Israel stuff to test out when we are running two campaigns already? Plausible deniability is
the only thing I can think of, but we would be blamed anyway...

54 Summersong  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:28:34pm

Done, with pleasure.

55 Soona'  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:28:38pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

From Muqata; I knew this would creep in sooner or later.

All I have to say about that is: Cool!

56 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:28:52pm

re: #45 Nevergiveup

Sounds like a good idea to me.

so now for whatever else the palis are they are Guinea pigs?...what a world

57 ice-9  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:29:10pm

"and begged his audience of leftist drones to vote for him."

Typical leftie. No shame at all.

58 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:29:12pm

re: #45 Nevergiveup

Sounds like a good idea to me.

They did the same thing in the Lebanon war. They accused Israel of using munitions which would cause cancer or with effects which violated the Geneva Convention. All of it turned out to be bullshit then too.

59 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:29:14pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

This is odd.....
UN: Israel admits rocket fire was not from within school

How do we tell who paid for this press release? Is it really from the UN?

"earthtimes"? doesn't pass the sniff test.

60 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:29:15pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

This is odd.....
UN: Israel admits rocket fire was not from within school


How do we tell who paid for this press release? Is it really from the UN?

Earthtimes is the site that was on? Hmmmm.

61 The Mongoose  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:29:20pm

Instant effect. Cole now at 31.7%, Israellycool 24.8%, Totten 21.7%. Totten is gaining primarily because of the appeal on his own website, I suspect, with LGF votes going to him and Israellycool.

62 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:29:21pm

ISRAELLYCOOL!

63 freedombilly  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:29:26pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

From Muqata; I knew this would creep in sooner or later.

Makes sense. Gaza is nothing more than a Zionist proving ground after all!

/

64 TheBull271  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:29:26pm

Looks like the Lizard army is workin hard.. Their websites hamsters are going really sllow

65 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:29:42pm

re: #46 buzzsawmonkey

The fact that Israeli rounds go where they're aimed has to be the result of nefarious new technology rather than training.

Nope. Act of God. heh.

66 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:30:11pm

Latest film from Gaza.

67 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:30:12pm

re: #51 taxfreekiller

not within the school

that means the roof or from the windows or play ground, or front steps

or the tunnel underneath

68 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:30:14pm
69 Charles  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:30:20pm

re: #17 GNIDAthe#seCond

GAZA - AP PHOTOSHOP FAKE?

muqata.blogspot.com is imploring readers to examine the following photo for possilbe photoshopping, fautography...

The Photo in question:
[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

Maybe ... but that looks like an extreme telephoto lens setting, which could "shorten" the background radically. Those hills in the background could appear larger and closer than they are.

The debris looks a little suspicious, but it could be large pieces of a structure; that looks like a helluva big explosion.

I don't really see anything obviously faked.

70 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:30:26pm

re: #59 Guanxi88

They issue paid press releases. CAIR uses them all the time.

71 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:30:38pm

re: #56 albusteve

so now for whatever else the palis are they are Guinea pigs?...what a world

Well they keep bitching that jobs are hard to come by.

72 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:30:39pm

re: #53 WitchDoctor

Re: #39
I saw that and thought it was odd, why would we need to give Israel stuff to test out when we are running two campaigns already? Plausible deniability is
the only thing I can think of, but we would be blamed anyway...

it's part of the R&D process...nothing wrong with it

73 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:30:41pm

re: #9 Alouette

The problem is the good guys are split between Israellycool and Michael Totten.

It is a problem - ordinarily I'd have gone for Michael Totten, full blast.
But since the start of the war in Gaza, I've been to Israellycool's blog incessantly, and because of the war he's getting my vote.

74 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:31:03pm

re: #44 VioletTiger

That was easy. Next?

Cake Wrecks under Best Food category.

I can't read that site without laughing til I cry.

75 Desert Dog  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:31:09pm

re: #39 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

From Muqata; I knew this would creep in sooner or later.

Let me know when they drop the gay bomb, I will want to see that spectacle.

76 Summersong  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:31:22pm

"your text to link"

I was sort of hoping the typo, "lonk" would catch on...

77 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:31:41pm

re: #75 Desert Dog

Let me know when they drop the gay bomb, I will want to see that spectacle.

Would that effect goats?

78 Charles  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:31:51pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

This is odd.....
UN: Israel admits rocket fire was not from within school

How do we tell who paid for this press release? Is it really from the UN?

Author is DPA, a German news service I believe.

79 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:31:59pm

re: #75 Desert Dog

Let me know when they drop the gay bomb, I will want to see that spectacle.

I'm not worried about that. It's when they later drop the nude bomb that I will be worried.

80 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:32:07pm

Juan Cole is a terror apologist, and a bug-eyed twit to boot.

Isreallycool!

81 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:32:11pm
82 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:32:42pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

They issue paid press releases. CAIR uses them all the time.

Good, saves me having to wade through Deutsche Presse-Agentur nonsense. As I said "earthtimes".

Any source or group with "earth", peace, people's, etc., in the name may, in general, be dismissed outright, and many should probably be critiqued and corrected with bulldozers.

83 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:32:42pm

I can't open the fookin' page. I'm planning on voting for Isreallycool, once from here, once from Chicago, and once as "Mickey Mouse" from Minnesota.

84 zombie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:32:57pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

This is odd.....
UN: Israel admits rocket fire was not from within school

How do we tell who paid for this press release? Is it really from the UN?

Very bizarre. 48-hour rule on that one. There's so much disinformation flying around, I don't trust anyone any more.

85 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:33:06pm

re: #7 zombie

Juan Cole?!?!?!?!?

The man is a lunatic. How can he possibly even be nominated?

I'd rank him among the three worst professors in America, right up there with Leonard Jeffries and Ward Churchill, to name a couple.

Ward Churchill is no longer a perfesser, I'm glad to say.

Your first sentence leaped into my addled brain as

The man is a lunatic. How can he possibly even be
(a) nominated
(b) elected
(c) noticed
(d) all the above
86 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:33:32pm

re: #6 Nevergiveup

Shit we talk about The Middle East so much ( and rightfully so ) why aren't we in that category?

We water it down with all that ID/creationist stuff.
/

87 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:33:34pm

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

This article was published about 15 minutes before the press release.....
UNRWA '99.9% certain' gunmen didn't fire from shelled school

"We are 99.9 percent certain that there were no militants or militant activity in the school or in the school compound," said Christopher Gunness, spokesman of the UN Relief and Works Agency, following a preliminary investigation conducted by the international relief organization.
...
IDF officials maintained Wednesday that a number of mortar shells were fired at IDF units "from within the Jabalya school. In response to the incoming enemy fire, the forces returned mortar fire to the source."

An IDF statement said that two Hamas operatives, Imad Abu Ashkar and Hassan Abu Ashkar, were among the bodies found at the school. A spokeswoman decline to explain, however, how the operatives were identified.

She said that the IDF did not have any video of this particular incident.


I suspect the press release might be really from the UN and they are lying about the private statements from Israeli officials.

88 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:33:59pm

re: #84 zombie

Trust Israel.

The only ones answerable to a free press, judicial system and the people.

89 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:34:01pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

This is odd.....
UN: Israel admits rocket fire was not from within school

How do we tell who paid for this press release? Is it really from the UN?

Inside, outside, does it really make a difference?

90 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:34:13pm

re: #69 Charles

Maybe ... but that looks like an extreme telephoto lens setting, which could "shorten" the background radically. Those hills in the background could appear larger and closer than they are.

The debris looks a little suspicious, but it could be large pieces of a structure; that looks like a helluva big explosion.

I don't really see anything obviously faked.

but it's a bit suspicious in the aggregate, isn't it?

91 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:34:13pm

re: #17 GNIDAthe#seCond

GAZA - AP PHOTOSHOP FAKE?

muqata.blogspot.com is imploring readers to examine the following photo for possilbe photoshopping, fautography...

The Photo in question:
[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

Whatever that shrapnel is flying through the air - it's huge!

92 DeafDog  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:34:25pm

Can I nominate Iowahowk for the best Mid-west blog?

93 Thor-Zone  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:35:11pm

re: #84 zombie

Very bizarre. 48-hour rule on that one. There's so much disinformation flying around, I don't trust anyone any more.

I'm with you on that one Zombie....To me this Gaza thing is beginning to feel a lot like Lebonon of 2006. I'm just waiting on the Green Helmet guy to show up.

94 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:35:26pm

re: #66 Peacekeeper

Oy.

95 opnion  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:35:36pm

Roland Burris headed back to Illinois to appear before the impeachment panel.
Chicago radio is reporting that they want to ask him if he paid for the appointment. Seriously.

96 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:35:39pm

re: #94 WriterMom

Oy.


Vey

97 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:35:41pm

re: #78 Charles

There's also the UN's Department of Political Affairs

98 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:35:51pm

re: #93 Thor-Zone

I'm with you on that one Zombie....To me this Gaza thing is beginning to feel a lot like Lebonon of 2006. I'm just waiting on the Green Helmet guy to show up.

You can wait all you want - he won't show up. Got a gig at CNN and NPR

99 formercorpsman  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:35:54pm

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Very interesting KT.

It looks like you might be nailing them right now.

100 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:36:05pm

re: #69 Charles

It could be. But that looks like an extreme telephoto lens setting, which could "shorten" the background radically. Those hills in the background could appear larger and closer than they are.

The debris looks a little suspicious, but it could be large pieces of a structure; that looks like a helluva big explosion.

I don't really see anything obviously faked.

Israelis who have apparently blogged about this photo say there are no mountains in that area.
(I'm repeating what is said on The Muqata's blog).

101 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:36:38pm

Well if he wins then the Award itself becomes a black mark - like the Nobel peace prize.

102 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:36:45pm

re: #90 jwb7605

but it's a bit suspicious in the aggregate, isn't it?

I think that's the point...what the hell is the difference

103 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:36:46pm

re: #69 Charles

I was going to ask-and maybe people more familiar with explosives could answer...why is there a gap between the ground and the smoke-a clear gap where there is no smoke at all?

104 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:37:01pm

re: #95 opnion

Roland Burris headed back to Illinois to appear before the impeachment panel.
Chicago radio is reporting that they want to ask him if he paid for the appointment. Seriously.

It's a valid question.

And it puts him on record saying yay or nay. And if it is found that he did pay for it in some way, does lying to the panel constitute perjury?

105 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:37:08pm

re: #87 Killgore Trout


I told Kenneth (who posted that earlier this am) that I saw ANOTHER UNWRA spokesman this morning (unfortunately saw Dem Now! on TV) saying the exact same thing word for word. INcluding the 99.99% BS.

Obviously they're sending out talking points to all their activists.

THey openly and un-apologetically have Hamas, etc, terrorists on their payroll.

They are actively participating in Hamas' war against Jews.

106 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:37:41pm

re: #104 Silhouette

It's a valid question.

And it puts him on record saying yay or nay. And if it is found that he did pay for it in some way, does lying to the panel constitute perjury?

Will he be under oath?

107 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:37:41pm

Gah. I'll have to try later from home, without the IE7 suckitude. Can't get the thing to fully load.

108 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:37:46pm

The brave UN that abandoned Iraq and Iraqis after one bomb.

109 jcm  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:38:05pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Who is Earthtimes?
No attributions, other than Israel, or Israeli diplomats.

aboutus.org on Earth times....

Contact
Whois information is public, but in response to some people wanting to keep their contact information private, many domain name
Registrars offer a "privacy" or "proxy" service to mask the domain name owner. This domain is most likely using a proxy service.

110 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:38:13pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

This is odd.....
UN: Israel admits rocket fire was not from within school

How do we tell who paid for this press release? Is it really from the UN?

Especially since the IDF said MORTARS were fired from the school. (And stiill says so, from what I can tell)
Some idiot at the UN asked the IDF "Were rockets fired from the school", was told "No" and put out this press release.

111 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:38:29pm

Here's the chilly view of Old Faithful Geyser. Next eruption predicted in about an hour.

Oh - and Mr. Cole: No whining, whiners should be thrown overboard; perhaps keelhauled.

112 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:38:31pm

If you google DPA
the 6th result goes to the UN's Palestine page

113 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:38:33pm
114 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:38:39pm

re: #91 bosforus

Whatever that shrapnel is flying through the air - it's huge!

Seriously, that shrapnel looks suspicious. Granted, it's a big explosion, but compared to the buildings next to it that shrapnel looks to be about 2 stories in height. If the target was a building, I would think the concrete would be blown to smithereens and not projected in giant chunks. Just my first thoughts.

115 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:38:54pm

re: #108 Ben Hur

The brave UN that abandoned Iraq and Iraqis after one bomb.

the UN is a veritable death machine

116 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:39:06pm

re: #106 Nevergiveup

Will he be under oath?

Good question. Probably related to how much authority the panel has.

I don't know.

117 zombie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:39:34pm

re: #69 Charles

It could be. But that looks like an extreme telephoto lens setting, which could "shorten" the background radically. Those hills in the background could appear larger and closer than they are.

The debris looks a little suspicious, but it could be large pieces of a structure; that looks like a helluva big explosion.

I don't really see anything obviously faked.

re: #103 WriterMom

I was going to ask-and maybe people more familiar with explosives could answer...why is there a gap between the ground and the smoke-a clear gap where there is no smoke at all?

One detail I might point out:

While I agree it doesn't look too faked, one thing that bothers me is that the mushroom cloud shape had time to form, while the debris is still mid-flight. It would seem rather that the debris should have already finished its trajectory before the mushroom could take shape, which takes a few seconds. Though, it's still not entirely definitive.

And even if it was fake, what does it prove?

118 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:39:37pm

re: #108 Ben Hur

The brave UN that abandoned Iraq and Iraqis after one bomb.

Yeah, that was another high point in UN history? You even wonder why the UN was bombed since they were complicit with Saddam in scamming all that money?

119 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:39:43pm

re: #114 bosforus

Seriously, that shrapnel looks suspicious. Granted, it's a big explosion, but compared to the buildings next to it that shrapnel looks to be about 2 stories in height. If the target was a building, I would think the concrete would be blown to smithereens and not projected in giant chunks. Just my first thoughts.

About the concrete - I gotta disagree - no less an authority than Alex Jones says that concrete doesn't disintegrate except from placed demolition charges.

120 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:39:47pm

re: #100 yma o hyd

That is true. It's flat desert, until you get to the Sinai. Those mountains look like the Judean Hills actually, seriously...the region of Beersheva and Eilat and Gaza does not look like that!

121 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:40:25pm

re: #114 bosforus

Rebar will hold together large chunks of concrete.

Ojoe, architect.

122 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:40:27pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Of course they didn't fire them from inside the school. The damn ceiling is in the way. They fired them from right outside the school per the IDF video from 2007. You do not fire mortars from within buildings if they still have a ceiling. If the ceiling is gone, the remaining wall(s) may shield you a tad against rifle fire, but that's all.

123 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:40:33pm

Juan Cole does not appear on the list at this time.

I saw him listed, checked the results, went back to vote, but then his name was gone.

124 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:40:39pm

They're pulling a Clinton.

Were you alone with Monica?

Well, no, there were other people.....in the building.

Suddenly, you have to be exact.

"Inside" means from within the building.

To us, "from the school" means anywhere on or within the immeadiate proximity of the school - close enough that the chances of the return fire hitting it would be high.

Think, drug-free school zone.

125 albusteve  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:40:46pm

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey

To my mind, the notion that there has to be video evidence for everything an army does in the middle of a shooting war is ridiculous. This is a standard that is only imposed by people who believe that there is no possible justification for the armed action in the first place, and that the military therefore must prove itself innocent of war crimes allegations for everything it does.

No military on earth could meet this standard, which is of course the point; the objective is to find Israel "guilty of war crimes" for anything for which it does not possess incontrovertibly exonerating evidence, while continuing to ignore the ongoing war crimes of the Hamas regime.

well said...it is splitting hairs as intriguing as it is

126 The Mongoose  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:41:12pm

re: #117 zombie

One detail I might point out:

While I agree it doesn't look too faked, one thing that bothers me is that the mushroom cloud shape had time to form, while the debris is still mid-flight. It would seem rather that the debris should have already finished its trajectory before the mushroom could take shape, which takes a few seconds. Though, it's still not entirely definitive.

My thoughts also. I'll get a video of a cloud like that forming and time it.

127 opnion  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:41:13pm

re: #104 Silhouette

It's a valid question.

And it puts him on record saying yay or nay. And if it is found that he did pay for it in some way, does lying to the panel constitute perjury?

I am fairly sure that he will be under oath, so if that is the case it would be perjured testimony.
Burris is a partner in a "Consulting " firm that has contributed to Blago, but that really isn't relevant since they all contrbute all over the place.

128 invictus1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:41:19pm

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Was there not a video posted on here yesterday of rockets being fired from the school? An old one, but nonetheless?

129 jcm  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:41:20pm

Funny Business in Minnesota

Under Minnesota law, election officials are required to make a duplicate ballot if the original is damaged during Election Night counting. Officials are supposed to mark these as "duplicate" and segregate the original ballots. But it appears some officials may have failed to mark ballots as duplicates, which are now being counted in addition to the originals. This helps explain why more than 25 precincts now have more ballots than voters who signed in to vote.
130 Charles  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:41:39pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

There's also the UN's Department of Political Affairs

Yeah, that's more likely. Yesterday the AP reported this.

Two residents of the area who spoke by telephone said they saw a small group of militants firing mortar rounds from a street near the school, where 350 people had gathered to get away from the shelling. They spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal.

They may have been setting up the claim that the terrorists were in a street near the school but not the school itself.

131 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:41:53pm

re: #117 zombie

zombie, I don't know what it proves except again they are liards.

Look at the Judean hills [Link: gallery.tourism.gov.il...]

These are the West Bank demonstrations in Bilin [Link: ghth.files.wordpress.com...]

132 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:41:58pm

re: #118 Nevergiveup

Yeah, that was another high point in UN history? You even wonder why the UN was bombed since they were complicit with Saddam in scamming all that money?

Cover.

They needed a mistake to get everything out of there before the US intellegence gathered evidence.

133 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:42:11pm

re: #79 Hard Right

Please, please, not in Washington DC! The result of that with Pelosi, Frank, Reid, Byrd and Kennedy would be a weapon of mass destruction.

134 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:42:25pm

re: #117 zombie

While I agree it doesn't look too faked, one thing that bothers me is that the mushroom cloud shape had time to form, while the debris is still mid-flight

Very good point.

135 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:42:30pm

re: #121 Ojoe

Rebar will hold together large chunks of concrete.

Ojoe, architect.

Rebar! I knew there was something not sitting right about my conclusion. Yep, that would do it.

136 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:42:32pm

re: #91 bosforus

Just looked at the photo & I think the fragments could be rusted corrugated iron, they are bent; they don't look like concrete to me.

137 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:42:42pm

re: #132 Ben Hur

Cover.

They needed an excuse mistake to get everything out of there before the US intellegence gathered evidence.

More good.

138 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:43:15pm

The other mountains in Israel are of course up north...like around Nazareth and the Galilee

[Link: www.christusrex.org...]

139 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:43:16pm

re: #123 Lawrence Schmerel

Oh, it is Informed Comment. Never mind.

140 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:43:21pm

re: #117 zombie

What is the description of what we are looking at in that photo? That information would help.

141 yochanan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:43:43pm

[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com...]

this is taken from navey daneal were my grand daughter lives the smoke is from gaza

142 israellycool  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:43:44pm

Thanks for the post, Charles, and thanks for the support lizards!

I think Michael and I are disadvantaged in a sense since we are splitting the vote. And let's not forget Elder of Ziyon and Martin. I'm just honored to be in the same category as those guys.

Of course, I would like to win this thing, but if Michael takes it, he will be a deserving winner.

Please don't let Cole win this!

143 Lynn B.  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:43:50pm

re: #28 buzzsawmonkey

You're giving short shrift to Noam Chomsky, Kevin MacDonald, Rashid Khalidi, and Cornel West, but I forgive you.

Not to mention Norman Finkelstein and Nadia Abu El Haj.

144 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:44:01pm

BBL

145 Charles  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:44:13pm

Secondary explosions inside the building could also have driven large pieces into the air.

146 greenmiler  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:44:15pm

got Totten vote in(damn slow ass site)..

147 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:44:19pm

re: #130 Charles

Two residents of the area who spoke by telephone said they saw a small group of militants firing mortar rounds from a street near the school, where 350 people had gathered to get away from the shelling. They spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal.

That also implies that the terrorists went to the location of the crowd and fired.

148 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:44:29pm
149 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:44:39pm

re: #136 Ojoe

Just looked at the photo & I think the fragments could be rusted corrugated iron, they are bent; they don't look like concrete to me.

Nope, those are the glide-wings off the latest zionist genocide weapon. See, they detach as the warhead free-falls into the orphanage, and autonomously steer to strike the nearest widow.

150 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:44:40pm

re: #69 Charles

Charles, if you look on top of the hills in the background, I am sure that those are West Bank settlements in the Judean Hills.

151 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:44:59pm

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey

I was really hoping that one we be caught on tape.

152 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:45:06pm

OT: Stunning phone call transcripts of calls between Mumbai terrorists and their handlers.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

"Keep your phone switched on," a handler said in the midst of the siege, "so that we can hear the gunfire."

The ruthless exchange comes from a transcript of phone calls Indian authorities say they intercepted during terror attacks. They were part of a dossier of evidence New Delhi handed Pakistan this week that it says definitively proves that the siege was launched from across the border.

"We have three foreigners, including women," one gunman said into the phone.

The response was brutally simple: "Kill them." Gunshots then rang out inside the Mumbai hotel, followed by cheering that could be heard over the phone.

153 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:45:30pm

re: #82 Guanxi88

Good, saves me having to wade through Deutsche Presse-Agentur nonsense. As I said "earthtimes".

Any source or group with "earth", peace, people's, etc., in the name may, in general, be dismissed outright, and many should probably be critiqued and corrected with bulldozers.

That's an excellent corollary to the old rule that a country with Democratic Republic in its name is probably neither.

154 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:45:53pm
155 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:45:58pm

re: #149 Guanxi88

Nope, those are the glide-wings off the latest zionist genocide weapon. See, they detach as the warhead free-falls into the orphanage, and autonomously steer to strike the nearest widow.

Don't forget the baby-formula-poisoning bomblets.

156 maddogg  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:46:01pm

I can't get it to come up. It it an IE bug?

157 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:46:25pm

re: #155 Occasional Reader

Don't forget the baby-formula-poisoning bomblets.

That's on the Mark II version, still in testing.

158 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:46:39pm

re: #155 Occasional Reader

And the penis-shrinkers.

159 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:46:48pm

re: #69 Charles

It could be. But that looks like an extreme telephoto lens setting, which could "shorten" the background radically. Those hills in the background could appear larger and closer than they are.

The debris looks a little suspicious, but it could be large pieces of a structure; that looks like a helluva big explosion.

I don't really see anything obviously faked.

OMG, that's Hedora!

160 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:46:59pm

I agree with Writer MILF.

Doesn't look Gaza-ish to Hur.

161 Thor-Zone  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:47:03pm

re: #145 Charles

Secondary explosions inside the building could also have driven large pieces into the air.

Good call Charles....That could explain why the smoke cloud is so large and the "chunks" are still in the general area of the explosion(s).

162 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:47:12pm

Did I just write that?!?

163 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:47:21pm

re: #160 Ben Hur

BENHUR! LOL.

Doesn't it look like this: [Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

164 greenmiler  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:47:29pm

The youtube video shows them shooting mortars withen feet of the building!


165 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:47:30pm
166 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:47:51pm

re: #152 karmic_inquisitor

OT: Stunning phone call transcripts of calls between Mumbai terrorists and their handlers.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I mentioned this before; a liberal family member over the holidays made a passing reference to "those hotel fires" in Mumbai.

Inability to look evil in the eye = Liberal value

167 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:48:00pm

re: #117 zombie

It proves another AP shilling, perhaps?

Tjhis is the quote from the Muqata:
'The AP Comment for the picture states: "An explosion after an Israeli strike in Beit Lahiya in the northern Gaza Strip on Saturday, as seen from Gaza City.(Adel Hana/Associated Press)"

SOURCE FROM HERE -- SEE IT FOR YOURSELF)

The following is noted.

1. We don't know of mountains near Gaza like those in the background.
2. The debris "flying" away from the explosion appears to be "photoshopped" in.
3. Israeli bloggers are now trying to determine where this photo is really from in the first place.

Ongoing investigation - we will keep you posted. (source from rotter, Israeli bloggers)

168 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:48:06pm

Then again, I haven't been there since my last Pali Child hunt.

169 maddogg  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:48:28pm

Muslim male enhancement product.

170 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:48:33pm

re: #130 Charles

They may have been setting up the claim that the terrorists were in a street near the school but not the school itself.


That's possible. It's also possible that the secondary explosions were caused by the Israelis hitting their small stash of mortars.

171 The Mongoose  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:48:33pm

For those seeking only to defeat Cole, Michael Totten is now the leading opposition.

Cole: 29.8%
Totten: 25.0%
Israellycool: 24.3%

172 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:48:44pm

This is what the Gaza strip looks like: flat, sandy desert.

[Link: www.decolonizing.ps...]

173 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:49:08pm

re: #17 GNIDAthe#seCond

GAZA - AP PHOTOSHOP FAKE?

muqata.blogspot.com is imploring readers to examine the following photo for possilbe photoshopping, fautography...

The Photo in question:
[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

I can almost certainly say that this picture is fake. However, I'm not sure what's the purpose of it though, because Israel does pummel Hamas with half a ton + bombs. But this isn't the terrain of Gaza.

174 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:49:14pm

re: #168 Ben Hur

I haven't been there since I needed gentile blood for Matza, but STILL...

175 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:49:27pm

re: #168 Ben Hur

Then again, I haven't been there since my last Pali Child hunt.

Shirking your duties, eh? What kind of genocidal monster are you? Turn in your decoder ring immediately.

176 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:49:27pm

re: #110 Kosh's Shadow

Especially since the IDF said MORTARS were fired from the school. (And stiill says so, from what I can tell)
Some idiot at the UN asked the IDF "Were rockets fired from the school", was told "No" and put out this press release.

For F*cks sake...

177 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:49:45pm

I just turned the photo upside down. It's Sideshow Bob with a Unix beard.

178 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:50:08pm

re: #174 WriterMom

I haven't been there since I needed gentile blood for Matza, but STILL...

Us, we always just ordered from the bakery. Not as nice as homemade, but a lot less clean-up.

179 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:50:47pm

Going out on a limb.

It's actually a photograph of the moment when FATAH headquarters was blown up from an underground tunnel that took Hamas months to dig and was set off during their coup.

So sayeth Hur.

180 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:50:52pm

re: #160 Ben Hur

I agree with Writer MILF.

Doesn't look Gaza-ish to Hur.

Is referring to yourself in the third person one of your New Year's Resolutions?

181 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:50:59pm

Server timeout. Did we break da widdle website?!?
JAFLW

182 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:51:09pm

re: #178 Guanxi88

Less transfat, too.

183 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:51:29pm

re: #172 WriterMom

This is what the Gaza strip looks like: flat, sandy desert.

[Link: www.decolonizing.ps...]

Any landing-strip pictures?

184 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:51:52pm

re: #171 The Mongoose

For those seeking only to defeat Cole, Michael Totten is now the leading opposition.

Cole: 29.8%
Totten: 25.0%
Israellycool: 24.3%

MIKE TOTTEN MUST NOT BE FORGOTTEN!

185 Throbert McGee  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:52:00pm

re: #123 Lawrence Schmerel

Juan Cole does not appear on the list at this time.

I saw him listed, checked the results, went back to vote, but then his name was gone.

Cole's blog ("Informed Comment") is still showing up for me.

186 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:52:17pm

re: #182 WriterMom

Less transfat, too.

Depends on the bakery and the gentile-stock, of course. Some areas, you get more trans than others.

187 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:52:34pm

OT -

I can see that everything is working as planned with all the bailout money. Markets are way down today, jobs are falling faster than dead flies, and we got real estate moguls in Chicago offing themselves.

Keep those bailouts coming!

188 jcm  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:52:39pm

re: #173 Age Of Freedom

I can almost certainly say that this picture is fake. However, I'm not sure what's the purpose of it though, because Israel does pummel Hamas with half a ton + bombs. But this isn't the terrain of Gaza.

It looks more like S. Lebanon than Gaza doesn't it?

189 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:52:44pm

Charles, this photo by Nidal al-Terrorist is also suspicious:

[Link: blogs.reuters.com...]

Gaza just does not have this type of topography.

190 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:52:55pm

re: #179 Ben Hur

Going out on a limb.

It's actually a photograph of the moment when FATAH headquarters was blown up from an underground tunnel that took Hamas months to dig and was set off during their coup.

So sayeth Hur.

Really? They did that?

Gotta give the genocidal terror swine some credit for sheer moxie on that one, if so.

191 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:53:06pm

Ah! Got on finally.

Informed comment: 29.6%
Michael J Totten: 25.5%
Israellycool: 24.3%

As of 16:52 EST

JAFLW

192 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:53:14pm

There's absolutely no reliable source that supports this false Israeli "admission" of Hamas not firing from Schools.

The evidence against Hamas (or generally any Islamic terror group) shooting as armed civilians from within crowded civilian areas against Israeli civilians has been proven forever.

193 000G  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:53:23pm

The following is a political satire by freelance journalist Stefan Frank, originally in German and translated by me. The source is http://www.lizaswelt.net/2009/01/die-logik-der-nah ostexpertokratie.html


How a Hamas sympathizer would have commented on the global political situation at the end of 1944

Already once, from 1914 to 1918, Great Britan has waged war against Germany. Germany has remained undefeated in battle and long-lasting stability has not been achieved as the events of 1939 have shown. But the british government has not learned from that. It reacted with inappropriate bombing of densely populated areas to primitive, self-made V2-rockets going down on London continously which admittedly spread fear and terror but do not do any real damage.

But even with brute force Great Britan cannot win this war. Because even if it succeeded in crushing the leadership of the NSDAP, the organization would not be at its end at all. There are enough frustrated, radicalized young men who are ready to take the places of killed NSDAP members. The NSDAP is not a terror group but a mass organization which runs wellfare institutions and has been legitimated through elections. Even a complete stop to the bombarding of Great Britain can only be achieved for a short time, according to experts' opinions. The operation would admittedly weaken the infrastructure of the NSDAP but in the long run it would be capable again to fire rockets onto british soil.

"There will be no victor in this war", a Europa expert summed up his assessment of the situation. "The NSDAP will temporarily stop its rocket attacks and then take revenge – perhaps even with suicide attacks in Great Britain." The only ones who benefited from the british operation have been the extremist organizations in all of Germany. The moderate forced in the NSDAP are weakened by the war while the radicals win new followers.

An immediate ceasefire is neccessary. Adolf Hitler and Rudolf Heß have been hinting in the past that they might be ready to agree to one under certain conditions. A long-lasting peace in Europe is only possible when Great Britain withdraws from the German colonies and helps to improve the social and economical situation in the German territories. It is only out of desperation over the injustice done to them over decades that the Germans have started a World War. London has to understand that.

////

194 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:53:35pm

re: #133 Shr_Nfr

Please, please, not in Washington DC! The result of that with Pelosi, Frank, Reid, Byrd and Kennedy would be a weapon of mass destruction.

Projectile vomitting, bleeding from the eyes....dogs and cats living together...

195 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:53:48pm

re: #185 Throbert McGee

Thanks. I made a mistake.

196 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:53:58pm

re: #185 Throbert McGee

Cole's blog ("Informed Comment") is still showing up for me.

When I voted, there was NO JUAN COLE LISTED. I was curious as to which blog he was associated with. Looks like someone changed the name ON PURPOSE to help confuse the issue.

197 wolfie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:54:19pm

re: #141 yochanan

[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com...]

this is taken from navey daneal were my grand daughter lives the smoke is from gaza

What a beautiful photo. Also very scary.

198 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:54:36pm

re: #180 Occasional Reader

Is referring to yourself in the third person one of your New Year's Resolutions?

It's an annoying habit I've picked up.

It'll fade.

The Hur hopes.

199 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:54:53pm

Just refreshed the Blog Awards page. Totten went up 300, Cole went up 16. I think we can take him down.

200 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:54:58pm

It looks like Hugo has reversed himself. He is going to continue using Joe Kennedy as a useful idiot. Per the WSJ headline. No story yet.

201 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:55:08pm
202 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:55:24pm

re: #187 Walter L. Newton

OT -

I can see that everything is working as planned with all the bailout money. Markets are way down today, jobs are falling faster than dead flies, and we got real estate moguls in Chicago offing themselves.

Keep those bailouts coming!

Rink please

203 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:55:45pm

re: #198 Ben Hur

It's an annoying habit I've picked up.

It'll fade.

The Hur hopes.

Think of it this way; it could be construed as a symptom of gender confusion. (The Her)

That should cure you right quick.

204 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:55:48pm

re: #198 Ben Hur

It's an annoying habit I've picked up.

It'll fade.

The Hur hopes.

I don't know. That is how it all started with Golum?

205 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:55:50pm

re: #130 Charles

Good call. That's exactly what the UN is claiming......
Israeli official and UN prick debate the school bombing

The UN isn't ruling out that they were firing from "near" the school. His claim is that they weren't "in" the school.

206 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:56:08pm

re: #202 Ben Hur

Rink please

What? "Rink?"

207 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:56:24pm

re: #200 Shr_Nfr

It looks like Hugo has reversed himself. He is going to continue using Joe Kennedy as a useful idiot. Per the WSJ headline. No story yet.

maybe senator caroline called him?

208 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:56:31pm

re: #206 Walter L. Newton

What? "Rink?"

Similar to robster craws.

209 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:56:33pm

re: #150 WriterMom

Charles, if you look on top of the hills in the background, I am sure that those are West Bank settlements in the Judean Hills.

I think the locality of this photo is one of the points in question - is it really from Gaza, as AP says, or is it from somewhere else?

Is AP lying again, and have they recycled an older photo, after sexing it up?

210 Pyrocles  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:56:40pm

And our President-elect's buddy, Billy Ayers.

re: #143 Lynn B.

Not to mention Norman Finkelstein and Nadia Abu El Haj.

211 wolfie  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:56:46pm

re: #143 Lynn B.

All excellent nominees for the academic Hall of Shame, but please let us not forget the adorable Bernardine Dohrn and her heroic hubby Ayers!

*gag*

212 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:57:02pm

re: #196 Walter L. Newton

When I voted, there was NO JUAN COLE LISTED. I was curious as to which blog he was associated with. Looks like someone changed the name ON PURPOSE to help confuse the issue.

Evil always needs a mask. At least initially.

213 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:57:04pm

re: #206 Walter L. Newton

What? "Rink?"

...should say, "Rink, prease".

JAFLW

214 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:57:08pm

re: #208 Hard Right

Similar to robster craws.


Yeah. prain engrish.

215 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:57:18pm

re: #202 Ben Hur

Rink please

If you meant link, here...

(to the real estate guy)

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

216 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:57:26pm

re: #189 WriterMom

Now that one looks seriously suspicious. The lighting on the hill in the foreground in completely different than the lighting in the background.

217 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:57:36pm

Looks more like this...I bet those shots are either from Bilin with the smoke doctored in or from another village.

[Link: www.palestineremembered.com...]

218 Marvo76  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:57:45pm

re: #27 ggt

Is that an American Flag at the very top of the smoke plume?

Most certainly is, and you know what? I ain't a rocket scientist when it comes to spotting "shoppe" photos, but that looks pretty lame to me....

219 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:58:16pm

re: #214 jwb7605

Yeah. prain engrish.

STOP IT!

220 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:58:55pm

re: #214 jwb7605

Yeah. prain engrish.

I feel ronery.

221 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:59:01pm

re: #203 Occasional Reader

Think of it this way; it could be construed as a symptom of gender confusion. (The Her)

That should cure you right quick.

You may be on to something.

I honestly did that by accident at least three times!

222 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:59:03pm

re: #219 Walter L. Newton

STOP IT!

Why so clanky?

223 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:59:24pm

re: #212 Occasional Reader

I could be wrong, but I thought I saw Juan Cole's name listed by his blog the first time I looked at it, then when I went back to vote, it just said "Informed Consent" without his name.

224 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 1:59:48pm

re: #217 WriterMom

I bet those shots are either from Bilin

We must stop the cycle of violence in Bilin.

No, wait... we must stop the Billin' cycle. That's what I meant to say.

225 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:00:02pm

re: #219 Walter L. Newton

STOP IT!

Ruh roh!

JAFLW

226 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:00:08pm

re: #208 Hard Right

Similar to robster craws.

I asked my Chinese girlfriend once if she wanted to 69.

She replied, "Why you want beef with brocolli?"

227 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:00:10pm

re: #218 Marvo76

Most certainly is, and you know what? I ain't a rocket scientist when it comes to spotting "shoppe" photos, but that looks pretty lame to me....

I don't think it's an flag at all. And I still ask the question, what is the photo suppose to be about. I find no info on a caption or context.

A little context would help.

Anyone?

228 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:00:15pm

re: #203 Occasional Reader

Are you suggesting that BEN HUR, our BEN HUR should "question his gender"?

GAAAAA

229 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:00:31pm

re: #226 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HA

230 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:00:32pm

re: #218 Marvo76

Most certainly is, and you know what? I ain't a rocket scientist when it comes to spotting "shoppe" photos, but that looks pretty lame to me....

It's not an American flag. It's a light-colored piece of debris (like the others), with a puff of the black smoke where the "stars" would be.

231 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:00:40pm

Juan Cole & indeed most liberals, should put in a call to these guys

232 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:00:51pm

Juan Cole's name was "cleansed" from the voting page using Clean Cole technology.

233 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:01:12pm

re: #226 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I asked my Chinese girlfriend once if she wanted to 69.

She replied, "Why you want beef with brocolli?"

I thought that one was a hot dog and a taco.
/

234 jcm  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:01:43pm

re: #232 Occasional Reader

Juan Cole's name was "cleansed" from the voting page using Clean Cole technology.

It was already bankrupt.

235 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:01:46pm

re: #224 Occasional Reader

No, it's the cycle of violins...the sax and the violins.

236 Marvo76  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:01:58pm

re: #69 Charles

Maybe ... but that looks like an extreme telephoto lens setting, which could "shorten" the background radically. Those hills in the background could appear larger and closer than they are.

The debris looks a little suspicious, but it could be large pieces of a structure; that looks like a helluva big explosion.

I don't really see anything obviously faked.

Look close at the flag, if indeed it is going out and up, then why is it stretched as if in the breeze? shouldn't it be laying and trailing the heavier flagpole?

237 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:02:09pm

re: #219 Walter L. Newton

STOP IT!

Solly, Lalter.

238 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:02:19pm

TAKING CHANCE - HBO MOVIE TO AIR IN FEBRUARY
POSTED BY BLACKFIVE
"Chance Phelps was wearing his Saint Christopher medal when he was killed on Good Friday. Eight days later, I handed the medallion to his mother. I didn't know Chance before he died. Today, I miss him." - LtCol Michael R. Strobl, USMC (Ret.), “Taking Chance”

Four and a half years ago, I was asked to post "Taking Chance" by LtCol Michael Strobl. It evoked one of the strongest reactions on BlackFive that I have seen since starting the blog in mid-2003. The story also gave me the honor to get to know some of the friends and family and Marine brothers of Chance.

I included Taking Chance in the Blog of War (Chance is one of the men that the book is dedicated to) and we have followed it's trajectory until, finally, it will be aired as a movie on HBO on February 21st. Kevin Bacon will portray LtCol Strobl.

[Link: www.blackfive.net...]

Watch the Trailer!

239 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:02:26pm
240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:02:34pm

re: #220 Occasional Reader

I feel ronery.

Well, if you like pina coradas...

241 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:02:39pm

re: #224 Occasional Reader

Definitely. No mor billin' out dem damn bunks like American Express eater. Crap, all Amex has to do is to stop sending me all those damn solicitations for their crap card and they will save billions a year just on me alone.

242 jaunte  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:02:39pm

re: #205 Killgore Trout

I see the UN 'investigation' consisted of sending "one of their best people" in Gaza to hear what Gazans had to say about the controversy.

243 Truck Monkey  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:02:58pm

re: #226 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I asked my Chinese girlfriend once if she wanted to 69.

She replied, "Why you want beef with brocolli?"

My Chinese Dr said I have Ed Zachery disease.

244 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:03:51pm
245 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:03:54pm

re: #236 Marvo76

Look close at the flag, if indeed it is going out and up, then why is it stretched as if in the breeze? shouldn't it be laying and trailing the heavier flagpole?

It's not a flag. Why would it be the same color as all the other debris? Why wouldn't it be on fire if it was a piece of cloth? If it was a light piece of cloth, it would not have blown that high.

It's not a flag.

246 Rancher  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:04:07pm

LGF gets some accolades from NRO for forcing the media to be far more balanced in its coverage of this go round between Israel and the terrorists than in previous flareups.

Israel in the Balance

This is not the fall of 2000, when Yasser Arafat began a war with Israel, and when the mainstream media became a conduit for almost unadulterated PLO propaganda. These were the days when Tom Brokaw, on the NBC Nightly News, introduced a report with the words “Israeli riot police stormed the shrine, opening fire with rubber bullets and live ammunition on Palestinians who were throwing stones.” In fact, the confrontation in question began when worshippers poured out of the Al-Aqsa Mosque after an inflammatory sermon and tossed bottles, stones, and other deadly objects on worshippers at the Western Wall.

This is not even the summer of 2006, when Israel invaded Lebanon to stop a rocket barrage similar to the one the country is now getting from Hamas. Through the mainstream media, Hezbollah shut down the Israeli offensive with a carefully calculated stream of images of civilian casualties.

Of course, this is a war, and things can change on a dime — particularly as the conflict drags on and Hamas throws more of its civilians into the incinerator to provide fodder for “outreach” to the world community. But for the time being, one sees a rather dogged insistence on balance. This week on CNN, after the typical near-hysterical piece on mounting civilian casualties in the strip (again, no mention of the absence of a civil-defense system or of Hamas’s calculated use of civilians as human shields), a piece showing Israelis running for bomb shelters in Ashkelon and Beersheba aired. The segment included an interview with a Palestinian scholar who alleged that Israel had brought rockets, grads, kassems, et al., on herself with her continued “occupation” — but also clips of a powerful Israeli spokesman, who reminded viewers that Israel had tried to allow the Palestinians to develop their state for some time, but Hamas didn’t seem to want the party to end.

So what’s has happened between 2000 and the present? A number of factors have allowed Major Avital Leibovich, head of the foreign-press department in the IDF Spokesman’s Unit, to say, “I’m surprised for the better. The coverage has been balanced on most channels, even on some outlets not known for being pro-Israel.”

One big one is the creation and growth of web-based communities such as CAMERA, littlegreenfootballs.com, and honestreporting.com, which monitor coverage, share information with each other, and launch e-mail and phone-call campaigns in response to distortions. CAMERA (Committee for Accurate Middle East Reporting of America), the oldest and best-funded of the bunch, tirelessly scans headlines and transcripts and demands retractions and corrections. It often gets them. It is probably the New York Times public editor’s worst nightmare.

247 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:04:13pm

re: #220 Occasional Reader

I feel ronery.

So ronery

248 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:04:52pm

re: #69 Charles

Maybe ... but that looks like an extreme telephoto lens setting, which could "shorten" the background radically. Those hills in the background could appear larger and closer than they are.

The debris looks a little suspicious, but it could be large pieces of a structure; that looks like a helluva big explosion.

I don't really see anything obviously faked.

Good point.

249 engineboss  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:04:55pm

I wonder if the so called shrapnel is rolled roofing material fragments? Maybe the force of the explosion and the heat drove it into the air.

250 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:04:59pm

re: #233 CyanSnowHawk

I thought that one was a hot dog and a taco.
/

Now what was really funny is when I went to a Japanese place with my Japanese wife and was outraged to see bukkake noodles on the menu. I couldn't believe that could offer those until she explained it just meant they were covered in a cream sauce.

Boy was my face red.

BTW, bukkake on the internet is very very NSFW!

251 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:05:04pm

re: #235 WriterMom

No, it's the cycle of violins...the sax and the violins.

Last song by the talking heads, if memory serves - not a bad one, either.

252 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:05:22pm

re: #247 Hard Right

So ronery

How ronery?

253 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:05:38pm

re: #246 Rancher

LGF gets some accolades from NRO for forcing the media to be far more balanced in its coverage of this go round between Israel and the terrorists than in previous flareups.

Israel in the Balance

This is great, but it will really mean something when the MSM writes an article such as this. Meanwhile, it's preaching to the choir.

254 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:05:50pm

re: #224 Occasional Reader

We must stop the cycle of violence in Bilin.

No, wait... we must stop the Billin' cycle. That's what I meant to say.

Violins in Berlin?

255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:06:22pm

re: #250 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Now what was really funny is when I went to a Japanese place with my Japanese wife and was outraged to see bukkake noodles on the menu. I couldn't believe that could offer those until she explained it just meant they were covered in a cream sauce.

Boy was my face red.

BTW, bukkake on the internet is very very NSFW!

There's a Stroganoff joke here somewhere.

256 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:06:58pm

re: #250 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Now what was really funny is when I went to a Japanese place with my Japanese wife and was outraged to see bukkake noodles on the menu. I couldn't believe that could offer those until she explained it just meant they were covered in a cream sauce.
Boy was my face red.

BTW, bukkake on the internet is very very NSFW!

Too darned funny! Now we know where the NSFW name came from.

257 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:07:08pm

re: #255 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

There's a Stroganoff joke here somewhere.

And it should stay exactly where it is.

258 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:07:34pm

re: #247 Hard Right

So ronery

259 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:07:42pm

re: #238 Nevergiveup
Is this the same LtCol Michael Strobl from the Wisconsin/Illinois area Never?

260 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:08:15pm

re: #227 Walter L. Newton

I don't think it's an flag at all. And I still ask the question, what is the photo suppose to be about. I find no info on a caption or context.

A little context would help.

Anyone?

This is the AP caption for that photo (from the Muqata)
"An explosion after an Israeli strike in Beit Lahiya in the northern Gaza Strip on Saturday, as seen from Gaza City.(Adel Hana/Associated Press)"

So - is this photo from where AP says it is - or isn't it?
Thats the first questin, and Lizards seem to agree it can't be ...

261 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:08:27pm

re: #239 buzzsawmonkey

Pssssssssst.

Oh.... bite me!

262 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:08:35pm
263 invictus1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:08:47pm

re: #216 Killgore Trout

Look at the full size image. It's as if the foreground was placed on the background.

264 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:08:54pm

Everyone is going for the easy "Ronery" song, so I'll go for the more obscure "You are worthless, Alec Baldwin!"

265 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:09:12pm

re: #259 apachegunner

Is this the same LtCol Michael Strobl from the Wisconsin/Illinois area Never?

Not sure.

266 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:09:14pm

re: #261 Occasional Reader

Oh.... bite me!

So we've had our Cole-n cleaned?
///

267 invictus1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:09:42pm

re: #260 yma o hyd

This is the AP caption for that photo (from the Muqata)
"An explosion after an Israeli strike in Beit Lahiya in the northern Gaza Strip on Saturday, as seen from Gaza City.(Adel Hana/Associated Press)"

So - is this photo from where AP says it is - or isn't it?
Thats the first questin, and Lizards seem to agree it can't be ...

Is it possible to check in a program like Google Earth, or something along those lines?

(Just a suggestion)

268 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:10:00pm

re: #263 invictus1

Look at the full size image. It's as if the foreground was placed on the background.

Cloud?

269 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:10:13pm

hello yma re: #260 yma o hyd

270 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:10:42pm
Prell was used as a gag in the Drawn Together episode "Clum Babies". The Asian pocket monster Ling-Ling describes his new shampoo (Prell) as his worst lingual enemy; he pronounces it "Plerr", providing another instance of Ling-Ling switching L's and R's. He then asks how "Plerr" can give his hair such shine and body yet leave his soul with shame and embarrassment.
271 Throbert McGee  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:10:45pm

re: #196 Walter L. Newton

When I voted, there was NO JUAN COLE LISTED. I was curious as to which blog he was associated with. Looks like someone changed the name ON PURPOSE to help confuse the issue.

Psst, Walter -- if you scroll up to the top of this page and look at the banner, you'll notice that Charles Johnson's blog is not actually called "Charles Johnson's Blog." There's no conspiracy of confusion going on here.

(Also, note that although Cole's blog is named "Informed Comment," the URL is juancole.com -- wow, what a fiendishly clever disguise.)

272 TheBull271  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:11:01pm

Totten is ahead down by .1%

273 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:11:07pm

re: #250 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Now what was really funny is when I went to a Japanese place with my Japanese wife and was outraged to see bukkake noodles on the menu. I couldn't believe that could offer those until she explained it just meant they were covered in a cream sauce.

Boy was my face red.

BTW, bukkake on the internet is very very NSFW!

I had no idea that word had a child-safe background.

274 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:11:08pm

re: #260 yma o hyd

This is the AP caption for that photo (from the Muqata)
"An explosion after an Israeli strike in Beit Lahiya in the northern Gaza Strip on Saturday, as seen from Gaza City.(Adel Hana/Associated Press)"

So - is this photo from where AP says it is - or isn't it?
Thats the first questin, and Lizards seem to agree it can't be ...

Thanks. I don't know the area, so I can't comment, but I did want to know what it was suppose to be. So, it says nothing about what was hit, any deaths etc?

275 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:11:26pm

re: #259 apachegunner

Is this the same LtCol Michael Strobl from the Wisconsin/Illinois area Never?

Are you familiar with the story?

276 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:11:29pm

re: #270 Ben Hur

I LOVED DRAWN TOGETHER! It was like Family Guy on PCP.

277 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:12:29pm

He then asks how "Plerr" can give his hair such shine and body yet leave his soul with shame and embarrassment.

278 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:12:50pm

re: #272 TheBull271

Totten is ahead down by .1%

0.7% now

279 Render  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:12:50pm

re: #189 WriterMom

Gaza Port is flat. Very flat, except for the buildings. The only "high" ground in the region is a 108ft hill about 5 miles east of Nahal Oz, in Israel.

Allenby remarked on just such topography during his 1918 drive on Megiddo.

OLD
GROUND,
R

280 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:12:51pm

re: #271 Throbert McGee

Psst, Walter -- if you scroll up to the top of this page and look at the banner, you'll notice that Charles Johnson's blog is not actually called "Charles Johnson's Blog." There's no conspiracy of confusion going on here.

(Also, note that although Cole's blog is named "Informed Comment," the URL is juancole.com -- wow, what a fiendishly clever disguise.)

Would you leave me alone. I need a fresh conspiracy for today. :)

281 Marvo76  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:12:55pm

re: #245 Walter L. Newton

It's not a flag. Why would it be the same color as all the other debris? Why wouldn't it be on fire if it was a piece of cloth? If it was a light piece of cloth, it would not have blown that high.

It's not a flag.


went back and looked again with glasses on I concede your point...

282 TheBull271  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:13:20pm

Totten up .6% :)

283 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:13:38pm

re: #279 Render

Gaza Port is flat.

I don't recommend the West Bank Pinot Noir, either.

284 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:13:47pm

I think I found a way that Mike Tyson might like Jews.

285 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:13:50pm

re: #275 Nevergiveup

Are you familiar with the story?


No, I'm not. I once worked on a team with a retired marine LtCol, huaaaaaaaaaaa, Mike Strobel, back in the late 80s, early 90s.

286 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:13:51pm

re: #269 apachegunner

hello yma

Hi there!
How're you today?

287 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:14:03pm

re: #278 bosforus

0.7% now


The minions are surging.

288 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:14:12pm

re: #282 TheBull271

Totten up .6% :)

YES! He's tottin' up the votes!

289 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:14:20pm

re: #281 Marvo76

went back and looked again with glasses on I concede your point...

And I also just put on my glasses. It's Roseanne Barr!

290 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:14:21pm

re: #283 Occasional Reader

I don't recommend the West Bank Pinot Noir, either.

And yet the Palis are so good at whine.

291 dhg4  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:14:32pm

re: #9 Alouette

The problem is the good guys are split between Israellycool and Michael Totten.

And what about Elder of Ziyon? (Not to mention Martin Kramer.)

Of course Cole got his campaign started complaining about the neo-con conspiracy against him. Now that Charles has weighed that will just confirm his paranoia.

Andrew Sullivan, last I saw, was leading Hot Air in Best Blog. Go explain that.

292 Charles  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:14:35pm

re: #249 engineboss

I wonder if the so called shrapnel is rolled roofing material fragments? Maybe the force of the explosion and the heat drove it into the air.

That's what I'm thinking. One of the pieces (2nd from left) actually has a "tented" sort of roof shape to it.

293 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:14:48pm

re: #288 Occasional Reader

YES! He's tottin' up the votes!

(and if buzzsawmonkey already did that joke, I swear to Jebus I'm embarking on a three-state killing spree)

294 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:15:09pm

re: #286 yma o hyd

Hi there!
How're you today?


doin well thank you, as I hope you are too!

295 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:15:29pm

Well, the market took it on the chin but good today, due to fears about more unemployment and a deepening recession.

The Dow dropped 2.72%, the S&P dropped 3%, the NASDAQ dropped 3.23% and oil dropped down to $42.68.

The drop was pretty much across the board with only 17.5% of the issues on the NYSE gaining on the day, and losers outnumbered gainers 4.5 to 1.

In the mean time the Fed is broadening it's support of money market funds:

Fed expands liquidity program for money market funds


WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- More institutions will be eligible to participate in the Federal Reserve's Money Market Investor Funding Facility, the Fed said Wednesday. In addition to money market mutual funds, the Fed will buy assets from other funds that operate in a similar manner to money market mutual funds. The newly eligible participants include U.S.-based securities-lending cash-collateral reinvestment funds, portfolios, and accounts (securities lenders); and U.S.-based investment funds, such as certain local government investment pools, common trust funds, and collective investment funds. The program was authorized on Oct. 28 after a several large funds were pressured by failed investments in Lehman Bros.
296 quickjustice  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:15:43pm

Totten is overtaking Cole rapidly! Get over there and vote, Lizards!

297 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:15:50pm

re: #292 Charles

I'm going to go with Ojoe's corrugated iron theory. Seems very possible.

298 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:16:01pm

re: #291 dhg4

Andrew Sullivan, last I saw, was leading Hot Air in Best Blog. Go explain that.

He broke the story about how Trig Palin is actually Bigfoot's secret love child with Eva Braun. Or something like that.

299 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:16:07pm

re: #295 3 wood
hey 3

300 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:16:32pm

re: #293 Occasional Reader

(and if buzzsawmonkey already did that joke, I swear to Jebus I'm embarking on a three-state killing spree)

So you'll be tottin some guns?
(runs for life)

301 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:16:39pm

re: #188 jcm

It looks more like S. Lebanon than Gaza doesn't it?

It certainly does, in the summer time when it's all dry and brown. Although Charles does have a good point, this picture was taken while observing from a mountain. So despite his valid point, I am more convinced this picture is from S. Lebanon. Still, I can't say for 100% sure.

302 soccermom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:16:42pm

Ugh. Andrew Sullivan is ahead in the "Best Blog" category.
His most recent ridiculous hissy fit was trying to determine if Sarah Palin really was pregnant last spring. He was doubtful.

You know what to do, lizards!

303 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:18:26pm

re: #302 soccermom

Ugh. Andrew Sullivan is ahead in the "Best Blog" category.
His most recent ridiculous hissy fit was trying to determine if Sarah Palin really was pregnant last spring. He was doubtful.

You know what to do, lizards!

Send a bunch of taxi cabs to his house?
Make him fall in love with me, empty his bank account, dump him after cheating with his best friend?
Help me out here...

304 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:18:39pm

re: #274 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. I don't know the area, so I can't comment, but I did want to know what it was suppose to be. So, it says nothing about what was hit, any deaths etc?

No - its about AP lying, as the location of that photo does not look like North Gaza. Thats what the Israeli bloggers ar questioning, and the Lizards who have been to Israel seem to agree its not in North Gaza.
So - one possible lie already.

Then there is the quesion if it is another fauxtography.

These are the points why The Muqata has asked the Lizards to have a look and thus help the Israeli bloggers.

305 kynna  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:18:45pm

I'm going over to vote right now, but I want to share my appreciation for the hilarious antics of the Lizards this afternoon. Perked me right up! :D

306 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:18:58pm
307 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:19:01pm

re: #301 Age Of Freedom

It certainly does, in the summer time when it's all dry and brown. Although Charles does have a good point, this picture was taken while observing from a mountain. So despite his valid point, I am more convinced this picture is from S. Lebanon. Still, I can't say for 100% sure.

In fact, since it's most likely taken in the summer and in S. Lebanon, this is likely to be taken during the war in summer 2006. Age Of Freedom, I would up ding you if I could.

308 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:19:40pm
309 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:19:58pm

re: #303 Hard Right
Is that shit always in your head?
LOL

310 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:19:58pm

re: #295 3 wood

Oh goody, the government is gonna play with some more money, hell it's working so well up to this point.

Yea, I don't know shit about the markets and finance, but I can smell a con a mile away, and don't tell me this whole bunch of poop ain't a con, big time, a LONG CON as they say.

311 Guanxi88  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:19:58pm

re: #303 Hard Right

Send a bunch of taxi cabs to his house?
Make him fall in love with me, empty his bank account, dump him after cheating with his best friend?
Help me out here...

All sound ideas, except for the last one - don't think he has any friends, so it wouldn't be workable.

312 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:20:57pm

re: #309 reloadingisnotahobby

Is that shit always in your head?
LOL

No. Sometimes it falls out of my mouth. Now you know why my parents were afraid to leave me home alone as a child.

313 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:21:06pm

re: #294 apachegunner

doin well thank you, as I hope you are too!

Heh.
Was just 'saved' by Madame Dog, from a possible breaking-and-entering by a neighbourhood cat!

Dunno what got inot her (Madame Dog, that is!)

314 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:21:13pm

re: #304 yma o hyd

No, no, I understand. I'm just saying I don't know what I'm looking at, so I can't comment on the location or anything. I believe what the Lizards are saying.

315 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:21:18pm

Michael J. Totten takes the lead over Maximum Cole.

316 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:21:29pm

re: #306 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, it's all yours.

What state do you live in?


(loading bullets into my Glock automatic revolver... that's the AP description, anyway)

317 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:21:37pm

re: #315 Age Of Freedom

Michael J. Totten takes the lead over Maximum Cole.

Cole-n Blow.

318 Throbert McGee  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:21:47pm

re: #250 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Now what was really funny is when I went to a Japanese place with my Japanese wife and was outraged to see bukkake noodles on the menu. I couldn't believe that could offer those until she explained it just meant they were covered in a cream sauce.

Heh -- not necessarily a cream sauce; it's any kind of sauce poured in generous quantities on top of noodles or rice or whatever (as distinguished from just a thin coating of sauce -- which as far as I know is not described as "bukkake").

The word bukkake literally translates as "a splash" or "the act of splashing," so both the G-rated culinary usage and the more widely known porno term are extensions of that underlying meaning.

319 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:21:51pm

Good Afternoon everyone!
Anybody see this disgusting article on a pro palestinian rally in Ft. Lauderdale?
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

320 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:21:52pm
321 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:22:07pm

re: #316 Occasional Reader

What state do you live in?


(loading bullets into my Glock automatic revolver... that's the AP description, anyway)

Denial.
Hey, what's that clickin noise?

322 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:22:11pm

my shelti loves cats, ya mean Madame doesn't? re: #313 yma o hyd

Heh.
Was just 'saved' by Madame Dog, from a possible breaking-and-entering by a neighbourhood cat!

Dunno what got inot her (Madame Dog, that is!)

323 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:22:13pm

re: #299 apachegunner

hey 3

Yo.

324 jaunte  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:22:43pm

re: #304 yma o hyd

Here's another iage from 2003 that shows a bit of the landscape around Beit Lahiya.

BEIT LAYEA, GAZA STRIP - MARCH 10: A Palestinian police officer and a youth stand next to a tattered Palestinian flag looking at the damage March 10, 2003 in Beit Lahiya, the Gaza Strip. Israeli forces withdrew from a four-square-mile area of the northern Gaza Strip. The Israelis seized the land to prevent rocket fire into Israeli border towns.


[Link: www.jamd.com...]

325 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:23:01pm

Totten is now in the lead. He got some Insta-lanche help as well.

326 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:23:22pm

re: #318 Throbert McGee

and the more widely known porno term

This confirms it; I've led a sheltered life. I was only familiar with the culinary usage.

327 Soccermom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:23:23pm

#303 and #308:

Ha. Vote for someone else, like Hot Air.

328 invictus1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:23:43pm

re: #307 Age Of Freedom

In fact, since it's most likely taken in the summer and in S. Lebanon, this is likely to be taken during the war in summer 2006. Age Of Freedom, I would up ding you if I could.

I found this picture that the other one from the CBC website seems to be cropped from.

329 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:23:52pm

re: #310 Walter L. Newton

Yea, I don't know shit about the markets and finance, but I can smell a con a mile away, and don't tell me this whole bunch of poop ain't a con, big time, a LONG CON as they say.

OK

330 Hard Right  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:23:54pm

re: #322 apachegunner

my shelti loves cats, ya mean Madame doesn't?

My Pek is neutral on them when they live together. Outside, she chases them. It is hillarious. The cat is fleeing thinking she wants it dead, but my dog thinks they're playing.

331 Charles  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:23:57pm

Hey, Michael Totten just pulled ahead in the poll.

332 Marvo76  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:24:35pm

I just checked out google earth, I don't see anything in the way of terrain from the air that looks like it could be that tall (background)

333 Render  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:24:42pm

[Link: www.panoramio.com...]

[Link: www.panoramio.com...]

See any mountains?

NOT,
R

334 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:25:25pm

re: #305 kynna

I'm going over to vote right now, but I want to share my appreciation for the hilarious antics of the Lizards this afternoon. Perked me right up! :D

You mean, let us understand this cause, ya know maybe it's us, we're a little f***ed up maybe, but we're funny how, we're funny like we're clowns, we amuse you? We make you laugh, we're here to f***in' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How are we funny?

//

335 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:25:28pm

re: #330 Hard Right
yep, kinda fun to watch

336 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:25:48pm

Remember, like Scarlett said, tomorrow IS another day.

All the Cole voters can vote again tomorrow.

As can you.

337 faraway  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:26:14pm
338 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:26:49pm

re: #334 CyanSnowHawk

You mean, let us understand this cause, ya know maybe it's us, we're a little f***ed up maybe, but we're funny how, we're funny like we're clowns, we amuse you? We make you laugh, we're here to f***in' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How are we funny?

//

I try to use that line at least once a week.

339 filetandrelease  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:27:33pm

re: #252 bosforus

How ronery?


me so rorny, me ruv ru rong time

340 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:27:49pm

re: #337 faraway

Dick Tracy watch coming soon

What's next underpants/panties phones that vibrate?

341 quickjustice  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:28:09pm

re: #310 Walter L. Newton

Trouble is, the con has been ongoing for about sixteen years.

342 faraway  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:28:33pm

re: #340 Nevergiveup

What's next underpants/panties phones that vibrate?

Never work, they'll make you go blind.

343 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:28:34pm

re: #340 Nevergiveup

What's next underpants/panties phones that vibrate?


I love it when my phone vibrates while in my front pocket :>)

344 invictus1  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:28:45pm

re: #332 Marvo76

I just checked out google earth, I don't see anything in the way of terrain from the air that looks like it could be that tall (background)

Yes, I am looking at Google Earth/Maps and I can't see any kind of terrain features like that, at least that big. Again, look at this picture - the one the CBC/AP has cropped from - someone better at this than I am might be able to use that to determine its authenticity...

345 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:28:59pm
346 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:29:06pm

re: #332 Marvo76

I just checked out google earth, I don't see anything in the way of terrain from the air that looks like it could be that tall (background)

The recent overreaction and excessive use of force by the imperialist zionist honcos has created the new mountain range from debris formed as the bombs dropped and innocent Palestinian freedom fighters were slaughtered in the resulting genocide. The photo clearly illustrates it.
/Reuters

347 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:29:09pm

re: #328 invictus1

I found this picture that the other one from the CBC website seems to be cropped from.

Still, if you were giving me the option to choose what place it is between S. Lebanon and Gaza, I'd tell you the former on the spot with out any hesitations.
I would keep a close eye on this one, because it may not be an image from this war.

348 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:29:22pm

re: #331 Charles

Hey, Michael Totten just pulled ahead in the poll.

The surge succeeded!

349 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:29:32pm

re: #322 apachegunner

my shelti loves cats, ya mean Madame doesn't?

Absolutely not! Especially not when they come onto 'her' property!
Someone had left the gate open - and I know a cat must get in sometimes, as Madame has very suspicious sniffs right next to the gate ...

350 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:29:59pm

re: #346 jwb7605

The recent overreaction and excessive use of force by the imperialist zionist honcos has created the new mountain range from debris formed as the bombs dropped and innocent Palestinian freedom fighters were slaughtered in the resulting genocide. The photo clearly illustrates it.
/Reuters


Ooooops, theres the word! I am a honco

351 Age Of Freedom  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:30:35pm

re: #333 Render

[Link: www.panoramio.com...]

[Link: www.panoramio.com...]

See any mountains?

NOT,
R

Exactly. I'm more and more suspecting this now...

352 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:31:21pm

re: #349 yma o hyd
your right "her property" means a lot, I was talking about her cat on her property.

353 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:31:30pm

re: #345 ploome hineni

look at the body language and placement of people

[Link: assets.nydailynews.com...]

It's all wrong, wrong, wrong.

Carter goes next to Clinton, the two Bushes go together, and Obama belongs in the middle.

Left nuts, prick, right nuts.

354 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:32:09pm

re: #341 quickjustice

Trouble is, the con has been ongoing for about sixteen years.

That's what a long con is. A con, that is being worked so long that it's near impossible to recognize it as a con.

But of course, the financial wizards, every day, they have a new report, or a new reason why the bailouts are good, and when something doesn't work a month or so down the road, well, they have another reason why we should be happy that it worked out that way.

Bottom line is these guys are selling something, whether it be their politics, their financial devices or just trying to hang on to their careers, and they will say and do anything to continue the long con.

And like anyone selling something, they're not going to tell you the product stinks.

355 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:32:50pm

re: #340 Nevergiveup

What's next underpants/panties phones that vibrate?

Errr, you're late to the vibrating panty party...no phone function, but they were remote control...

/don't ask how I know that

356 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:32:52pm

Now the left wing wants to kill jooows. Hey, big surprise!
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

ANSWER wants "ovens" next. Then they lie like it is nothing.

357 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:33:16pm
358 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:34:01pm

I voted for Isaellycool.

359 faraway  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:34:31pm

When will there be a Wii version of LGF?

360 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:34:35pm

re: #338 Occasional Reader

I try to use that line at least once a week.

I had to look it up to get it right. Pesci just scares the hell out of me in both Goodfellas and Casino, right up until he pisses off enough people above him.
I have recently used NetFlix to catch up on my gangster films.

361 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:34:50pm

re: #356 hous bin pharteen

Now the left wing wants to kill jooows. Hey, big surprise!
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

ANSWER wants "ovens" next. Then they lie like it is nothing.

Pali scum.

362 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:34:54pm

re: #359 faraway

When will there be a Wii version of LGF?

Just chuck something at your computer screen...

363 faraway  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:35:12pm

re: #359 faraway

When will there be a Wii version of LGF?

I wanna be able to whack people and such.

364 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:35:16pm

re: #359 faraway

When will there be a Wii version of LGF?

Hammer motion for downdings.

365 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:35:30pm

re: #359 faraway

When will there be a Wii version of LGF?

When there is, I'm ready for it. Okay, almost. Gotta get the Wii Wi-Fi adapter.

366 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:35:52pm
367 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:35:57pm

re: #187 Walter L. Newton

OT -

I can see that everything is working as planned with all the bailout money. Markets are way down today, jobs are falling faster than dead flies, and we got real estate moguls in Chicago offing themselves.

Keep those bailouts coming!

Bailouts won't do squat as long as the banks hoard the cash infusion or, as in the case of BofA, use their taxpayer dollars to invest 7.5B into a Chinese construction firm.

368 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:36:00pm

re: #363 faraway

I wanna be able to whack people and such.

It can't be as fun as the cow races.

369 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:36:01pm

re: #363 faraway

I wanna be able to whack people and such.

That's Mandy's department. It's proprietary.

370 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:36:39pm

Lizards, I gotta go now, Madame Dog has to check the back garden for any other burglaring cats!

Seeya tomorrow, all being well.

May God bless and protect Israel and all who fight for her survival!

371 Taqyia2Me  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:36:42pm

re: #363 faraway

I wanna be able to whack people and such.

Don't give Mandy Manners no ideas like that!

372 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:36:48pm

re: #359 faraway

When will there be a Wii version of LGF?

We would actually have to get up and move.

373 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:36:55pm

re: #355 OldLineTexan

Errr, you're late to the vibrating panty party...no phone function, but they were remote control...

/don't ask how I know that

I would never ask you how you know, but were do I buy a pair or 2?

374 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:37:39pm

OT

No link, I heard this on Paul Harvey, but here's something to whack your moonbat friends with. LCD and plasma screen TV's are like BIG energy hogs. I mean 10 to 100 times more energy usage than a normal TV screen.

Maybe Harvey archives his reports or maybe he got it from some source that you can find online.

So, if you have any moonbat friends with a Prius and a plasma, talk to them for me.

375 jaunte  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:37:39pm

re: #356 hous bin pharteen

"She does not represent the opinions of the vast majority of people who were there," said lied Emmanuel Lopez, who helped plan the event, one of many sponsored nationwide on Dec. 30 by the ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism ) Coalition.

376 Silhouette  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:37:54pm

re: #366 ploome hineni

someone must know this person

who is she?

It's not important. /

Now, if she had embarassed Obama, 10 different state agencies would be investigating her and all her near relations.

377 Throbert McGee  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:38:00pm

re: #315 Age Of Freedom

Michael J. Totten takes the lead over Maximum Cole.

Come to think of it, the bowl of talking coleslaw on "Red State Update" is a much more astute political analyst than Juan Cole, but apparently this Weblog Awards thing doesn't allow write-ins.

378 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:38:22pm

Totten now at 31.7% with 2,381 votes
Cole at 26.2% with 1,969 votes.

379 Last Mohican  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:38:46pm

re: #332 Marvo76

I just checked out google earth, I don't see anything in the way of terrain from the air that looks like it could be that tall (background)

I've been looking on Google Maps too. If you're looking at Bayt Lahiya from Gaza City, then you're looking in some direction between NNE and ENE. So what would those mountains in the background be?

380 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:38:50pm

re: #378 Bubblehead II

Totten now at 31.7% with 2,381 votes
Cole at 26.2% with 1,969 votes.

Now let's work on putting LGF on top of best conservative blog.

381 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:38:53pm

re: #367 Russkilitlover

Bailouts won't do squat as long as the banks hoard the cash infusion or, as in the case of BofA, use their taxpayer dollars to invest 7.5B into a Chinese construction firm.

And who should have oversight of what the banks are doing with the money? The US government, I think. Ergo, I call bullshit on the whole process.

382 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:39:36pm

re: #373 Nevergiveup

I would never ask you how you know, but were do I buy a pair or 2?

There's this place down the freeway from here called Cindie's, but I swear I have only glanced at the billboard...

Or you can get them here. (work-safe Amazon listing)

383 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:39:51pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton
I am proud of my 52" 1080I, plasma tv. It heats the entire room all by itself. You can feel the power of it blowing your hair. I like it best with all the lights in the house turned on and the windows open with the heater blasting. Fuck green!

384 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:40:11pm

BUFFALO, N.Y. -- The office of Jack Kemp said the former housing secretary, congressman and Buffalo Bills quarterback has been diagnosed with cancer.

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

Best wishes to him and his family.

385 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:40:24pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

OT

No link, I heard this on Paul Harvey, but here's something to whack your moonbat friends with. LCD and plasma screen TV's are like BIG energy hogs. I mean 10 to 100 times more energy usage than a normal TV screen.

Maybe Harvey archives his reports or maybe he got it from some source that you can find online.

So, if you have any moonbat friends with a Prius and a plasma, talk to them for me.

Does the candy bar with a Diet Coke averaging rule apply?

386 faraway  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:40:30pm

re: #383 apachegunner

I am proud of my 52" 1080I, plasma tv. It heats the entire room all by itself. You can feel the power of it blowing your hair. I like it best with all the lights in the house turned on and the windows open with the heater blasting. Fuck green!

I don't know what it is, but I like it.

387 Render  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:40:58pm

re: #366 ploome hineni

Fourth wife of a goat humping pedophile.

ALL
I
GOT,
R

388 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:41:09pm

re: #379 Last Mohican

I've been looking on Google Maps too. If you're looking at Bayt Lahiya from Gaza City, then you're looking in some direction between NNE and ENE. So what would those mountains in the background be?

Utah

389 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:41:17pm

re: #384 Nevergiveup

BUFFALO, N.Y. -- The office of Jack Kemp said the former housing secretary, congressman and Buffalo Bills quarterback has been diagnosed with cancer.

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

Best wishes to him and his family.

Oh my.

390 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:42:19pm

re: #380 bosforus

Well I only have a limited supply of unsecured wireless networks I can access to cast votes through ;-)

391 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:42:25pm

re: #387 Render

Fourth wife of a goat humping pedophile.

ALL
I
GOT,
R

Hey Render!

392 3 wood  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:42:25pm

The price of oil keeps dropping as supplies back up:

Oil loses most in seven years as inventories jump

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Crude-oil futures tumbled 12% Wednesday, marking their biggest one-day percentage drop in more than seven years, after government reports showed U.S. crude inventories jumped last week and as data indicated deteriorating troubles in the economy.
The nation's stockpiles of crude reached 325.4 million barrels in the week ended Jan. 2, up 6.7 million barrels from a week ago, the Energy Information Administration reported. Analysts surveyed by energy information provider Platts had expected a buildup of 1.5 million barrels.
"The stock build should be enough to chase the bulls back into the barn," said James Williams, an economist at energy research firm WTRG Economics. "The substantial builds in crude oil, gasoline and distillates ought to bring the bears back from a short hibernation."

393 Charles  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:42:36pm

re: #344 invictus1

Yes, I am looking at Google Earth/Maps and I can't see any kind of terrain features like that, at least that big. Again, look at this picture - the one the CBC/AP has cropped from - someone better at this than I am might be able to use that to determine its authenticity...

The caption for the photo:

An explosion is seen after an Israeli strike in Beit Lahiya in the northern Gaza Strip, as seen from Gaza City...

If that's accurate, the photo would have been taken looking north, because Gaza City is to the south of Beit Lahia.

394 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:42:55pm

Cleveland Names Eric Manginni the just fired ex-jet as head coach? Good luck Cleveland?

395 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:43:36pm

re: #356 hous bin pharteen

Now the left wing wants to kill jooows. Hey, big surprise!
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

ANSWER wants "ovens" next. Then they lie like it is nothing.

"She does not represent the opinions of the vast majority of people who were there," said Emmanuel Lopez, who helped plan the event, one of many sponsored nationwide on Dec. 30 by the ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism ) Coalition.
Lopez, a state coordinator for ANSWER, admitted there is a problem with anti-Semitism within his organization's ranks. But then he went on to call the supporters of Israel across the street "barbaric, racist" Zionist terrorists.

Fucking detestable scumbags one and all of them.

396 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:43:41pm

re: #375 jaunte

Spot on.

397 Charles  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:43:48pm

re: #393 Charles

...and that means the hills in the background could be in Israel, again with an extremely zoomed-in lens.

398 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:44:09pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

OT

No link, I heard this on Paul Harvey, but here's something to whack your moonbat friends with. LCD and plasma screen TV's are like BIG energy hogs. I mean 10 to 100 times more energy usage than a normal TV screen.

Maybe Harvey archives his reports or maybe he got it from some source that you can find online.

So, if you have any moonbat friends with a Prius and a plasma, talk to them for me.

That's 3(LCD) to 10(Plasma) times more energy than a CRT Walter, and I suspect that it does not refer to same size devices (all test screens at 32" for instance). My 32" CRT pulls 65W, standard household mains wouldn't support 6.5kW from a single socket.

399 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:44:26pm

re: #381 Walter L. Newton

And who should have oversight of what the banks are doing with the money? The US government, I think. Ergo, I call bullshit on the whole process.

Hundreds of billions of dollars and absolutely no oversight, no terms of use, no accounting and no auditing. Congress should be horsewhipped, along with the Bush Administration. Absolutely shameful.

OTOH, the bank CEO's are very happy folk these days!

400 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:45:26pm

re: #392 3 wood

The price of oil keeps dropping as supplies back up:

Oil loses most in seven years as inventories jump

And gas is up in my community .13 in 10 days. I don't have the math skills - new or old - to make sense of it.

401 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:45:34pm

re: #392 3 wood

The price of oil keeps dropping as supplies back up:

Oil loses most in seven years as inventories jump

And has anyone noticed the price of consumer items going down? Of course not. Four to six months ago, when the price of gas was peaking, the price of food and other items went up, fast.

I haven't seen a decrease in any prices (except gas itself). Wonder why?

402 Throbert McGee  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:45:49pm

re: #326 Occasional Reader

This confirms it; I've led a sheltered life. I was only familiar with the culinary usage.

Damn, you ARE sheltered.

To update an old joke:

A couple of first-graders were playing on the merry-go-round during recess when when of them said to the other:

"Hey, guess what? I was at my Grandpa's house last weekend and I found a bukkake DVD on the veranda!"

"What's a veranda?"

403 doppelganglander  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:46:08pm

re: #378 Bubblehead II

Totten now at 31.7% with 2,381 votes
Cole at 26.2% with 1,969 votes.

Lizards get results. Incidentally, I love the way you can watch the bars grow as the results are displayed.

404 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:46:11pm

re: #397 Charles

...and that means the hills in the background could be in Israel, again with an extremely zoomed-in lens.

Well the hill would have to be in Israel, but the only Hills that big anywhere near there would have to be the foothills of the Judean Hills. And I have serious doubts no matter what lens you were using that they would be visible in such a manner.

405 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:46:50pm

re: #397 Charles

...with an extremely zoomed-in lens.

It's the only way I'd want a photo of that area. I can't blame the photographer for not wanting close-ups of that area.

406 beens21  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:46:51pm

note that zomblog, Zombie's site, is nominated in the 'best midsize blog' at the blogawards site.

407 Marvo76  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:47:25pm

re: #392 3 wood

so how come the price of gas has risen 20 cents here in central IN in the last three days?

408 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:47:30pm

re: #359 faraway

Ohhh! Ohhh! Ooohhhhh!
Neat!
Will it have a copy of the M12 to practice with?!?!?!?!

409 jcm  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:47:40pm

re: #393 Charles

If that's accurate, the photo would have been taken looking north, because Gaza City is to the south of Beit Lahia.

Looking north would make sense, the building are sun light on the side facing the camera. Winter time the sun is in the south.

410 bosforus  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:47:40pm

re: #400 Russkilitlover

And gas is up in my community .13 in 10 days. I don't have the math skills - new or old - to make sense of it.

Went up 20 cents across the street from me...today!
Down the street it had only gone up 2 cents.
Guess where I filled up.

411 nanook  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:48:01pm

re: #184 Occasional Reader

Michael Totten definitely gets my vote. He is an amazing journalist -- and I mean that word in the nicest sense.

412 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:48:48pm
413 opnion  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:49:17pm

re: #399 Russkilitlover

Hundreds of billions of dollars and absolutely no oversight, no terms of use, no accounting and no auditing. Congress should be horsewhipped, along with the Bush Administration. Absolutely shameful.

OTOH, the bank CEO's are very happy folk these days!

Uh Huh & McCain suspended his campaign to run back to Washington to support this. He could have gotten some traction if he opposed it or at least slowed it down & got some accountability.
Now I hear Democrats saying that John mcCain agrees to this & that.
The Republicans will not consider him the titular head of the party,so I think that he can only deliver John McCain

414 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:49:30pm

re: #399 Russkilitlover

Hundreds of billions of dollars and absolutely no oversight, no terms of use, no accounting and no auditing. Congress should be horsewhipped, along with the Bush Administration. Absolutely shameful. OTOH, the bank CEO's are very happy folk these days!

Yep, and the financial wizards keep telling us how good this is for us. Yea, right.

Like I have said before, even some of the most conservative folks I know think it's alright. Then again they have all their money at stake.

Money and personal politics are so easy to drift apart. Bottom line for a lot of people, fuck the country, as long as I don't lose anything.

415 Taqyia2Me  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:49:33pm

re: #383 apachegunner

I am proud of my 52" 1080I, plasma tv. It heats the entire room all by itself. You can feel the power of it blowing your hair. I like it best with all the lights in the house turned on and the windows open with the heater blasting. Fuck green!

I pledge to save my pennies and buy one of THOSE just to symbolically flip off the green/libtard/msm cabal!

416 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:50:56pm

re: #412 Fat Jolly Penguin

Cheeky: Porn industry wants a bailout

I love the look on the face of Wormtongue Pelosi that came up right next to that post.

417 JHW  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:51:04pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

Saw this yesterday on Drudge, the original story was from the LA Times,
New California Energy Regulations to ban certain plasma TVs

LA Times story on flat screen TVs

Higher electricity costs to consumers that don't knuckle under from what I can gather.

418 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:51:27pm

re: #416 CyanSnowHawk

I love the look on the face of Wormtongue Pelosi that came up right next to that post.

Malkin uses that picture for every Pelosi post AFAIK.

419 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:51:55pm

re: #416 CyanSnowHawk

I love the look on the face of Wormtongue Pelosi that came up right next to that post.

Pr0n & Pelosi - that just ain't right.

420 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:52:17pm

re: #418 Fat Jolly Penguin

Malkin uses that picture for every Pelosi post AFAIK.

And I laugh at it, every time.

421 Render  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:52:40pm

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422 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:53:07pm

re: #412 Fat Jolly Penguin

Cheeky: Porn industry wants a bailout

Even though he's a bastard, you still have to admire the chutzpah. Hell, he's probably just doing it to make fun of the other bailouts.

423 opnion  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:53:22pm

re: #416 CyanSnowHawk

I love the look on the face of Wormtongue Pelosi that came up right next to that post.

I wonder if she can blink with all of those face lifts.

424 Lange  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:53:39pm

They’ve been showing the movie “Heat” on cable with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro.
If that had a part for Joe Pesci in it, it would have been even better.

425 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:54:02pm

re: #423 opnion

I wonder if she can blink with all of those face lifts.

She can do it, but it's a stretch.

426 RedHouseBlueState  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:54:03pm

Totten dutifully voted for!

427 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:54:21pm

re: #417 JHW

Saw this yesterday on Drudge, the original story was from the LA Times,
New California Energy Regulations to ban certain plasma TVs

LA Times story on flat screen TVs

Higher electricity costs to consumers that don't knuckle under from what I can gather.

Ha, when it starts hurting the entertainment industry, in the home capital of entertainment, watch how the moonbats start squaking.

428 faraway  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:54:21pm

Wii - Lizard Edition
- preloaded with name and avatar
- can use hands or feet to kick the crap out of trolls
- upding with gusto
- comes with Photoshop preloaded

429 opnion  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:54:34pm

re: #425 Who Watches the Watchmen?

She can do it, but it's a stretch.

That was good.

430 faraway  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:55:22pm

Optional pink or green models

431 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:55:45pm

G'night, Lizards.

432 jcm  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:56:18pm

re: #430 faraway

Optional pink or green models

With programmable head bobs.

433 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:56:24pm

re: #428 faraway

Wii - Lizard Edition
- preloaded with name and avatar
- can use hands or feet to kick the crap out of trolls
- upding with gusto
- comes with Photoshop preloaded

Comes with a clue-by-four attachment for the remote.

434 GodsOwnGoober  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:56:26pm

Voted for Trotten. He's now in the lead with about 33%

435 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:56:34pm

re: #401 Walter L. Newton

And has anyone noticed the price of consumer items going down? Of course not. Four to six months ago, when the price of gas was peaking, the price of food and other items went up, fast.

I haven't seen a decrease in any prices (except gas itself). Wonder why?

You might want to switch grocery stores from Albertson's and Safeway there, Walter. I've noticed more than a few food prices dropping in the past few weeks from milk to canned cat food.

436 pingjockey  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:56:34pm

Good night BDVM.
Juan Cole should be sent to Gaza to live.

437 Outrider  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:56:38pm

re: #417 JHW

Saw this yesterday on Drudge, the original story was from the LA Times,
New California Energy Regulations to ban certain plasma TVs

LA Times story on flat screen TVs

Higher electricity costs to consumers that don't knuckle under from what I can gather.

Hell, they are leftists running things out there, they know the solution. Tax the crap out of any household using an amount over a certain threshold which they will determine is the average a certain sized family should need.

Second step is to add a energy usage tax to the sale of each and every TV or appliance going over a predetermined threshold.

Damn, I'm starting to think like a leftist.
/ ;-)>

438 bulwrk  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:57:04pm

re: #423 opnion

I wonder if she can blink with all of those face lifts.

They don't call her Blinky Pelosi for nothing.

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439 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jan 7, 2009 2:57:51pm