Don't tell me the show is over.

About time, now for removal in disgrace...

This is the warm-up act to the rest of the political theatre we'll be enjoying for the next 4 years.

Odds he doesn't get convicted?

re: #1 Hard Right

Don't tell me the show is over.

Mustn't there be a senate trial first?

It's now time to watch everyone Jump on Blago. Props to Picayune, who posted it to the links before me.

And he will gracefully resign stubbornly drag out the full trial until he is convicted.

re: #1 Hard Right

Don't tell me the show is over.

IL Senate has to convict to remove. I from what I understand the incoming IL House from the '08 election will have to revote on impeachment.

They got him.

Is willingness to do time a prerequisite to sit as Illinois Governor?

move along, nothing to see here...

I WANT MY POPCORN!

re: #11 phoenixgirl

move along, nothing to see here...

You got that right ...

Blago and Bill Clinton have something in common now.

Yes, but it won't matter worth a damn if Blagojevich never convenes the Illinois Senate. According to Illinois law, it is the governor who convenes the Senate. It a trump card Governor Dead Meat can play. Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) has suggested that the Illinois State Police be used to force Blago to convene the Senate.

re: #1 Hard Right

Don't tell me the show is over.

Nope, this is just kinda like the indictment. And they new Illinois House will have to re-vote in a few weeks. Then and only then can The Illinois Senate hold the actual trial. I assume Blago can string this out if he wants.

re: #4 turn

Odds he doesn't get convicted?

If the rug don't fit, you must acquit!

re: #4 turn

Odds he doesn't get convicted?

-290, after he is out all the scumbags will come to his defense.

Besides his big mouth, did he actually commit a crime?

Woohoo! I was thrilled the day he got arrested. I even went by his house to watch the media circus, he lives just a few blocks away from me. It was a beautiful thing!

The sooner he's gone the better we are here in Illinois. Until the next corrupt governor takes office, which in this state probably won't be long.

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

Yes, but it won't matter worth a damn if Blagojevich never convenes the Illinois Senate. According to Illinois law, it is the governor who convenes the Senate. It a trump card Governor Dead Meat can play. Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) has suggested that the Illinois State Police be used to force Blago to convene the Senate.

Wow! There's a state law that needs revision, pronto.

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

Yes, but it won't matter worth a damn if Blagojevich never convenes the Illinois Senate. According to Illinois law, it is the governor who convenes the Senate. It a trump card Governor Dead Meat can play. Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) has suggested that the Illinois State Police be used to force Blago to convene the Senate.

Damn, this is gonna' more fun that should be legal.

re: #19 vapig

Besides his big mouth, did he actually commit a crime?

There doesn't need to be an actual crime for impeachment.

The impeachment will be reaffirmed in the House next week and then go to the Senate.

There was one dissenting vote.

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

Mark my words, there will be a very large and ill-tempered Illinois State Trouper to compel 'Dead Meat' to appear - at gunpoint and in handcuffs if necessary...

I was shocked--shocked!--to realize that the story on the CBS2Chicago web site made not a single mention of the fact that Gov. Blagojevich is a Democrat.

Every politician quoted by name in the article is identified by party, but there's no mention of Blago's party affiliation anywhere.

Perhaps he's a member of "The Party That Shall Not Be Named (in a scandal)".

I'm sure the next person in the position will be an honourable, honest fellow.

He will get convicted. This is not like a real legal trial, it's a POLITICAL trial. If the Senate wants him out because he dresses funny, they can do that.

re: #19 vapig

Have you not seen his hair?

It’s Friday morning; do you know what your Democratic governor is up to?

CHARLES! You're not supposed to say emocratDay in connection with a political figure in a corruption story! Sheesh, didn't you go to journalism school?!

Does this kill the re: #24 midwestgak

The impeachment will be reaffirmed in the House next week and then go to the Senate.

There was one dissenting vote.

Plus one "present" vote. haha

re: #27 WriterMom

I'm sure the next person in the position will be an honourable, honest fellow.

///

Fixed that for ya :-P

re: #19 vapig

Besides his big mouth, did he actually commit a crime?

A big mouth and intent is all you need for a conspiracy charge.

it was given

re: #1 Hard Right

Don't tell me the show is over.

re: #2 CapeCoddah

About time, now for removal in disgrace...

It would be better if he were allowed to hang, twisting slowly in the wind.
I don't want this show to end!
I hope this is like waiting for a caterpillar to drop the next shoe.

re: #30 Occasional Reader

CHARLES! You're not supposed to say emocratDay in connection with a political figure in a corruption story! Sheesh, didn't you go to journalism school?!

I wonder how Joe the Plumber would have reported this?

All I ask is that this shit stays on the front page for the next 4.

re: #30 Occasional Reader

Do you think it will cause eething-say in Icago-chay? It is Friday...

re: #27 WriterMom

I'm sure the next person in the position will be an honourable, honest fellow.

you forgot your sarc tag!

Oh, this show is far from over. Pass the popcorn, because it's just beginning.

From the Tribune's Clout Street

The vote by the House was 114-1 and marks the first time in the state's 190-year history that a governor has been impeached, despite Illinois' longstanding reputation for political corruption.

Rep. Milt Patterson (D-Chicago) was the lone vote against impeaching the governor. Patterson, from Chicago's Southwest Side, said after the roll call that he didn't feel it was his job to vote to impeach the governor. He declined comment on whether he approved of the job Blagojevich is doing.

A Blagojevich spokesman said the governor will not resign. A 2 p.m. news conference with the governor is scheduled for the James R. Thompson Center in downtown Chicago.

Next week, when the Senate convenes, it will begin the process of setting up a trial of the governor in which each of the 59 state senators act as judge and jurors.

A total of 40 senators are needed to convict Blagojevich which would remove the governor from office and make Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn the state’s new chief executive. A trial is expected to take at least three weeks.

While the debate was free of partisanship, Illinois Republican Party Chairman Andy McKenna was quick to criticize Democrats following the impeachment vote.

"After six years of enabling and endorsing Rod Blagojevich, the Democrats who run this state waited until Illinois faced national embarrassment to act and are now voting to impeach a governor they worked to re-elect only two years ago," McKenna said in a statement. "To make matters worse, these same Democrats have fed this crisis by refusing to strip the governor of his appointment powers, and are helping to seat Blagojevich's hand-picked and tainted choice for United States Senator."

However, it is Blagojevich who calls the Senate to convene.

re: #32 Conservative in Liberal Hands

I was using secret, invisible Zionist ink for the sarc tags. DUH.

On a seperate note:

EU diplomats: Egypt's refusal to station foreign troops on Gaza border holding up truce

By Assaf Uni, Haaretz Correspondent, and Reuters

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Translation: Egypt really doesn't want to have to get it's hands dirty and do anything, and anyway what interest does Egypt have in seeing less Palestinians die?

re: #39 phoenixgirl

Nah-I did in on purpose...anyone who knows me would be able to smell the sarc through their computer screen.

re: #26 ceemack

The Illinois House is scheduled to come in at 9 a.m. today to begin a historic debate on whether to impeach Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

From the Chicago Tribune...

re: #17 Creeping Eruption

re: #18 VegasRick

I'm doubting he will get convicted, I think in a way this impeachment takes the heat off him.

re: #8 jcm

IL Senate has to convict to remove. I from what I understand the incoming IL House from the '08 election will have to revote on impeachment.

Yay! (grabs more popcorn)

United States Impeachment

In 1970, then-House Minority Leader Gerald R. Ford defined the criteria as he saw it: "An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history."

re: #43 Nevergiveup

On a seperate note:

As my 4th grade teacher used to scream - A RAT, A RAT, A RAT
/

re: #27 WriterMom

I'm sure the next person in the position will be an honourable, honest fellow.

Diogenes has not and will not set foot in IL, a waste of time.
;-)

Now what about every other office holder in the state?

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

Yes, but it won't matter worth a damn if Blagojevich never convenes the Illinois Senate. According to Illinois law, it is the governor who convenes the Senate. It a trump card Governor Dead Meat can play. Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) has suggested that the Illinois State Police be used to force Blago to convene the Senate.

How? By holding a gun to his head?

re: #19 vapig

Besides his big mouth, did he actually commit a crime?

He has been under federal investigation for several years for a litany of things. He is not innocent, misunderstood or being railroaded. He is an ex- bookie thug, who needs to go. It is a shame he was ever elected.

re: #42 WriterMom

I was using secret, invisible Zionist ink for the sarc tags. DUH.

Vays Mir!

OT-When did Joe the plumber open a crab shack and become a Middle East war correspondent?

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

Yes, but it won't matter worth a damn if Blagojevich never convenes the Illinois Senate. According to Illinois law, it is the governor who convenes the Senate. It a trump card Governor Dead Meat can play. Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) has suggested that the Illinois State Police be used to force Blago to convene the Senate.

Next you'll see liberal op-eds popping up on the virtues of waterboarding and that is how Blago should be forced to convene the Senate. If that doesn't work...next will be full on torture and shuttling to the gulags.
/

re: #43 Nevergiveup

On a seperate note:

EU diplomats: Egypt's refusal to station foreign troops on Gaza border holding up truce

By Assaf Uni, Haaretz Correspondent, and Reuters

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Translation: Egypt really doesn't want to have to get it's hands dirty and do anything, and anyway what interest does Egypt have in seeing less Palestinians die?

I think it is more like: Egypt is dragging its feet so Israel has more time to mop up.

And it's another fine day here in Illinois, where we have the best politicians money can buy.

Blago has scheduled a press conference at 2 pm CST... Where's the buttered popcorn?

re: #46 turn

re: #18 VegasRick

I'm doubting he will get convicted, I think in a way this impeachment takes the heat off him.

Given that his staunch ally Emil "Evil" Jones (D-Com Ed) is now retired from the Senate, conviction is more likely.

re: #55 KenJen

Yesterday or the day before.

re: #55 KenJen

OT-When did Joe the plumber open a crab shack and become a Middle East war correspondent?

Huh? Crab shack?

Someone once said "Illinois politicians come pre-indicted, saves time".

re: #58 Bill the Cat

And it's another fine day here in Illinois, where we have the best politicians money can buy.

Sweet nic.

re: #46 turn

re: #18 VegasRick

I'm doubting he will get convicted, I think in a way this impeachment takes the heat off him.

He won't get shit, these scumbags always protect their own. Believe me, I know how this shit works, he will be sent away with a gold watch and he and his family will be taken care of.

re: #55 KenJen

OT-When did Joe the plumber open a crab shack and become a Middle East war correspondent?

Joe and Anderson Cooper. Neither were classically trained in journalism. Both ask great questions.

re: #57 Creeping Eruption

I think it is more like: Egypt is dragging its feet so Israel has more time to mop up.

Isn't that what I said in my last sentence?

"and anyway what interest does Egypt have in seeing less Palestinians die?"

re: #25 Conservative in Liberal Hands

there will be a very large and ill-tempered Illinois State Trouper

You really think they'll drag professional dance companies into this?

re: #41 Honorary Yooper

"After six years of enabling and endorsing Rod Blagojevich, the Democrats who run this state waited until Illinois faced national embarrassment to act and are now voting to impeach a governor they worked to re-elect only two years ago," McKenna said in a statement. "To make matters worse, these same Democrats have fed this crisis by refusing to strip the governor of his appointment powers, and are helping to seat Blagojevich's hand-picked and tainted choice for United States Senator."

That's not just Illinois democrats- they do that everywhere.

re: #5 MandyManners

Mustn't there be a senate trial first?

Since the federal prosecutor has asked for a 90 day suspension, will not turn over evidence, and the impeachment trial is 'scheduled' to last not more than two weeks, all evidence is, by definition, hearsay.

Which, of course, will set a precedent.
Impeachment would seem to be justified, but shouldn't there be some hard proof first?
Or is it going to be OK to impeach on the grounds that "we heard some bad stuff about you"? Failing that, "nobody likes you anyway".

re: #59 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Blago has scheduled a press conference at 2 pm CST... Where's the buttered popcorn?

And which Black Panther will pop out of the woodwork this time?

Blaaago!

Im-peach Blago Rod Blago Rod Blago!

Impeach Blago who Obama don't know.

Hey mister Senate man impeach Blago-je-vich
(Obama threw him under the bus)
He uses his office to make himself rich
(Obama says he didn't talk to him much)

Gov - he da Gov he da Gov he da Gov'ver
But 'da Illinois Senate is sending him hooome!

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Isn't that what I said in my last sentence?

"and anyway what interest does Egypt have in seeing less Palestinians die?"

I guess. I was thinking Palestinians includes even the non-hams, but you are probably more accurate.

I support a full public hearing with no restrictions on Blogo's right to present any and all evidence he believes will help him. Watch for the Dems to realize in impeaching Blogo, they've given him an international forum! Coming up next, restrictions on the evidence, documentation, witnesses and testimony Blogo will be allowed to present. Followed by restrictions on what will be allowed to be made public. Ebama and the Chicago Democratic political machine will be protected.

How sad for Mr. Blagojevich. But in these tough situations, famous people like him should set an example for the rest of us by looking at the bright side:

The bright side for O.J. Simpson is that his chances of finding the real killer are a lot better in prison than at a golf course.

The bright side for George Bush is that at least those weren't Richard Reid's shoes.

The bright side for George Ryan (the previous Illinois governor) is that having Rod Blagojevich as his cell mate will finally bring bipartisan politics to Illinois.

The bright side for Rod Blagojevich is that Americans nationwide are finally learning how to pronounce and spell his name.

re: #69 Occasional Reader

You really think they'll drag professional dance companies into this?

Drag?they'll waltz right in.

I have been wondering what is in those large black bags Blago puts in his SUV? Cash wrapped in foil?

re: #66 VegasRick

He won't get shit, these scumbags always protect their own. Believe me, I know how this shit works, he will be sent away with a gold watch and he and his family will be taken care of.

This is Illinois, VegasRick. They make casino owners and managers seem tame. Blago won't get a gold watch, but he may have a new, heavier pair of shoes to swim with.

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Mainly because Egypt doesn't want them either. Palis tend to explode things which is bad for tourists.

(based completely on my very on conjecture)

re: #75 rollingdivision

I support a full public hearing with no restrictions on Blogo's right to present any and all evidence he believes will help him. Watch for the Dems to realize in impeaching Blogo, they've given him an international forum! Coming up next, restrictions on the evidence, documentation, witnesses and testimony Blogo will be allowed to present. Followed by restrictions on what will be allowed to be made public. Ebama and the Chicago Democratic political machine will be protected.

Wouldn't a hit be a lot simpler

/Did I really say that?

re: #71 jwb7605

Or the "you have really bad hair and we can't have that all over TV" claim might work, too.

re: #78 faraway

I have been wondering what is in those large black bags Blago puts in his SUV? Cash wrapped in foil?

Dozens of chastity belts for his upcoming time in Club Fed.

re: #81 unreconstructed rebel

Wouldn't a hit be a lot simpler

/Did I really say that?

Problem is Blago is the guy you call to arrange the hit.

re: #80 ArmyWife

Mainly because Egypt doesn't want them either. Palis tend to explode things which is bad for tourists.

(based completely on my very on conjecture)

Humanitarian crisis from Gaza

I support Blago.

I don't he did anything different than what every other politician does/has done.

You don't think that the Gov of NY thought he had gold in his hands when Hillary's seat opened up?

Blago is just an arrogant idiot who was playing the Chicago game, got big headed and complacent and like an idiot, discussed it on the phone.

The cursing doesn't bother me - it's how real power brokers, business people, politicians actually speak.

I am alone, and I am Hur.

re: #74 Creeping Eruption

I guess. I was thinking Palestinians includes even the non-hams, but you are probably more accurate.

Well i am not trying to be mean to the Non-Hamas Palestinians, but Egypt, like the rest of the Arab World, really doesn't and never has given 2 shits for ANY Palestinian. The sooner the Palestinians realize Israel is really their only friend, the better off they will be.

re: #69 Occasional Reader

You really think they'll drag professional dance companies into this?

Sorry, I slipped on the snow-and-ice, hurt my wrist and can't type one-handed worth a Blago. Make that Trooper.

re: #72 Occasional Reader

And which Black Panther will pop out of the woodwork this time?

I must have missed that, is there some association between Blago and the black panthers?

re: #85 Dustyvet

I'm at work, working really hard. Super hard. I can't view you tube.

re: #86 Ben Hur

I support Blago.

I don't he did anything different than what every other politician does/has done.

You don't think that the Gov of NY thought he had gold in his hands when Hillary's seat opened up?

Blago is just an arrogant idiot who was playing the Chicago game, got big headed and complacent and like an idiot, discussed it on the phone.

The cursing doesn't bother me - it's how real power brokers, business people, politicians actually speak.

I am alone, and I am Hur.

Never send a Blago in to do an Obama's job.

re: #87 Nevergiveup

Well i am not trying to be mean to the Non-Hamas Palestinians, but Egypt, like the rest of the Arab World, really doesn't and never has given 2 shits for ANY Palestinian. The sooner the Palestinians realize Israel is really their only friend, the better off they will be.

Amen

re: #71 jwb7605

Since the federal prosecutor has asked for a 90 day suspension, will not turn over evidence, and the impeachment trial is 'scheduled' to last not more than two weeks, all evidence is, by definition, hearsay.

Which, of course, will set a precedent.
Impeachment would seem to be justified, but shouldn't there be some hard proof first?
Or is it going to be OK to impeach on the grounds that "we heard some bad stuff about you"? Failing that, "nobody likes you anyway".

Beats me.

re: #88 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Sorry, I slipped on the snow-and-ice, hurt my wrist and can't type one-handed worth a Blago. Make that Trooper.

Enjoy the wonderous commute this morning? 55 was such a fun time that I used the frontage roads to avoid it.

re: #89 turn

I must have missed that, is there some association between Blago and the black panthers?

Google Bobby Rush

re: #75 rollingdivision

I support a full public hearing with no restrictions on Blogo's right to present any and all evidence he believes will help him. Watch for the Dems to realize in impeaching Blogo, they've given him an international forum! Coming up next, restrictions on the evidence, documentation, witnesses and testimony Blogo will be allowed to present. Followed by restrictions on what will be allowed to be made public. Ebama and the Chicago Democratic political machine will be protected.

I think a lot of the IL Senate is reluctant to dig too deeply here because they are afraid Blago has personal dirt on them.

The Dem-majority there certainly refused to unseat him earlier because they didn't want the (no-longer) open Senate seat to be contested in open election, where a Republican might have a chance of winning.

re: #57 Creeping Eruption No, Egypt is letting Israel do the heavy lifting. They are also enjoying the worldwide condemnation of Israel defending herself.

re: #86 Ben Hur

I support Blago.

I don't he did anything different than what every other politician does/has done.

You don't think that the Gov of NY thought he had gold in his hands when Hillary's seat opened up?

Blago is just an arrogant idiot who was playing the Chicago game, got big headed and complacent and like an idiot, discussed it on the phone.

The cursing doesn't bother me - it's how real power brokers, business people, politicians actually speak.

I am alone, and I am Hur.

Which is why his fellow Illinois politicians are so upset. He let the cat out of the bag.

re: #79 Honorary Yooper

This is Illinois, VegasRick. They make casino owners and managers seem tame. Blago won't get a gold watch, but he may have a new, heavier pair of shoes to swim with.

That's more our style, I would be willing to give 2 to 1 odds that nothing happens to this guy, he just goes away and lives out his life without a peep.

re: #86 Ben Hur

[SNIP] I am alone, and I am Hur.

SHE, I believe is grammatically correct. ;-)
re: #89 turn

I must have missed that, is there some association between Blago and the black panthers?

Bobby Rush, currently. He used to be the big cat.

re: #99 Spiny Norman

Which is why his fellow Illinois politicians are so upset. He let the cat out of the bag.

Loose lips sink ships.

re: #93 MandyManners

Beats me.

This is a political trial. I don't they have many if any rules of evidence.

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

Yes, but it won't matter worth a damn if Blagojevich never convenes the Illinois Senate. According to Illinois law, it is the governor who convenes the Senate. It a trump card Governor Dead Meat can play. Rep. Jack Franks (D-Woodstock) has suggested that the Illinois State Police be used to force Blago to convene the Senate.

What, they put him in a headlock, and give him noogies until he relents?

re: #81 unreconstructed rebel

In general, Blogo should be very concerned about his safety.

Now that Blago is in deep Sh%^ , I wonder if he starts talking about Dems he may have dirt on? His political career is over, if singing to the feds keeps him out of jail, then I'd be lighting up a blowtorch on my party too.

Now that I have finally worked out a decent Chicago style pizza crust in my kitchen. I now have no regrets of leaving Illinois for more sunny climes.

re: #106 chicagodudewhotrades

Now that Blago is in deep Sh%^ , I wonder if he starts talking about Dems he may have dirt on? His political career is over, if singing to the feds keeps him out of jail, then I'd be lighting up a blowtorch on my party too.

He has nothing to lose, so he might as well throw everyone else under the bus. That's the Obama Way!

re: #94 Honorary Yooper

It's even more challenging on the side streets.

Evidently there are quite a few municipalities that are attempting to save money by simply not plowing. I could name names, but that would let everyone know where I work and live...

Congressman Ellison talks about his vote for H.Res. 951

Ellison condems the Rocket attacks...BUT...

re: #89 turn

I must have missed that, is there some association between Blago and the black panthers?

At the Blago press conference a couple of weeks ago at which he announced his choice of Burris, Blago suddenly "noticed" former Black Panther Bobby Rush in the audience (quel surprise), and invited him up to the podium; Rush then gave a thinly-veiled warning that there would be race riots if the US Senate doesn't seat Burris.

re: #105 rollingdivision

In general, Blogo should be very concerned about his safety.

No shit. Mayor Shortshanks don't like no one who opens their trap to da Feds.

re: #98 UberInfidel67

No, Egypt is letting Israel do the heavy lifting. They are also enjoying the worldwide condemnation of Israel defending herself.

Nothing new there, but they sure as hell are not racing to try and stop Israel from pounding the piss out of hamass

re: #46 turn

re: #18 VegasRick

I'm doubting he will get convicted, I think in a way this impeachment takes the heat off him.

Impeachment doesn't mean automatic powerlessness. um, Clinton was impeached but not removed from office.

re: #104 Ward Cleaver

What, they put him in a headlock, and give him noogies until he relents?

I don't want to know what "Chicago noogies" might be.

=^0

Are we to have a Keith Ellison Haj Trip Funded by Islamic Radicals Thread today?

re: #109 Conservative in Liberal Hands

It's even more challenging on the side streets.

Evidently there are quite a few municipalities that are attempting to save money by simply not plowing. I could name names, but that would let everyone know where I work and live...

That worked well for Jane Byrne.

/

I made buttloads of money in 1979 as a kid shoveling snow from driveways.

re: #114 midwestgak

Impeachment doesn't mean automatic powerlessness. um, Clinton was impeached but not removed from office.

Hell, Clinton's impeachment was the best thing to ever happen to his career!

re: #80 ArmyWife

Mainly because Egypt doesn't want them either. Palis tend to explode things which is bad for tourists.

(based completely on my very on conjecture)

Its not merely conjecture.

Egypt has its own serious problems with its own local version of Hamas, the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. Egypt doesn't want it riled up.

I think a bigger factor is that Egypt simply doesn't want to take any responsibility for administering Gaza. Egypt knows that's a no win situation: they can't clean it up either, and they'd FAR rather have Israel be the one having to do the "dirty" work against other Arabs, even ones as loathsome as Hamas.

re: #98 UberInfidel67

No, Egypt is letting Israel do the heavy lifting. They are also enjoying the worldwide condemnation of Israel defending herself.

By the way, your avatar cracks me up.

re: #108 Wyatt Earp

He has nothing to lose, so he might as well throw everyone else under the bus. That's the Obama Way!

I don't know about the Obama Way, but I think the phrase "you are dead to me" is accurate no matter what course Blago would choose: Prison or Fighting back.

re: #113 Creeping Eruption
Pounding the piss out of Hamas = "heavy lifting"

Remember, folks. 0bama did NOT know him. Repeat it to yourself until you believe it.

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re: #95 faraway

Thanks, I'm from California and I'm sticking with that excuse for my stupidity.

re: #43 Nevergiveup

On a seperate note:

EU diplomats: Egypt's refusal to station foreign troops on Gaza border holding up truce

By Assaf Uni, Haaretz Correspondent, and Reuters

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Translation: Egypt really doesn't want to have to get it's hands dirty and do anything, and anyway what interest does Egypt have in seeing less Palestinians die?

exactly what I hoped for two weeks ago...Egypt got some splainin to do

What?! What happened? They voted to impeach him? Jeez, it makes you lose faith in the Illinois mystique. I mean, just when Blago was attaining the status of a folk hero of Gottian proportions.

Speaking of crooked politics, that 2008 Best Weblog site has me on their "Watch" list. I went there to indulge in my daily orgy of ballot box stuffing on behalf of LGF and lo and verily a notice appeared stating that I had already voted within the last 24 hours and would I please get lost or something like that. Sorry, Charles. Will try again when the moratorium expires.

re: #117 DaddyG

That worked well for Jane Byrne.

/

I made buttloads of money in 1979 as a kid shoveling snow from driveways.

Good grief, now she was a trip. She made an attempt to live in Cabrini-Green (under armed guard, of course) for a few weeks.

re: #114 midwestgak

Impeachment doesn't mean automatic powerlessness. um, Clinton was impeached but not removed from office.

Impeachment = indictment, that's it.

The impeached one still has to lose at trial (in this case a Senate trial) to be removed from office.

re: #116 Ben Hur

Are we to have a Keith Ellison Haj Trip Funded by Islamic Radicals Thread today?

Touched on it yeaterday, byt while you are on the topic, I have a question: If he mad the Haj, shouldn't he change his name to Keith Haj Ellison? If he didn't, isn't that an insult to Islam to reject the "honor?"

From the Washington Post:

Today, longtime political ally of President-elect Barack Obama, Governor Rod Blagojevich, was impeached ...

Well actually the only references in the article to the President-elect are that Gov. Blagojevich sought to sell his Senate seat. I wrote the quoted section above.

But don't the media folks tell us how important transparency in government is?

re: #121 jwb7605

I don't know about the Obama Way, but I think the phrase "you are dead to me" is accurate no matter what course Blago would choose: Prison or Fighting back.

And in a matter of seconds, Obama will declare Blago was "just a guy from his neighborhood."

/

re: #94 Honorary Yooper

Enjoy the wonderous commute this morning? 55 was such a fun time that I used the frontage roads to avoid it.

I read that quickly and thought you said the "frottage roads".

re: #116 Ben Hur

Are we to have a Keith Ellison Haj Trip Funded by Islamic Radicals Thread today?

Think that group would fund a trip to Israel for me and my family?

re: #120 Creeping Eruption
I stole it from a deck of cards at The Peoples Cube. Makes me laugh because we all hate the COEXIST bumper stickers. Perfect! lol

Change I can believe in!

re: #123 bloodnok

Remember, folks. 0bama did NOT know him. Repeat it to yourself until you believe it.

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"These are not the lobbyists you seek, move along." - Obama wan Kenobi

It’s Friday morning; do you know what your Democratic governor is up to?

I know what mine is up to, or rather, down to. He's under the bus.

re: #123 bloodnok

Remember, folks. 0bama did NOT know him. Repeat it to yourself until you believe it.

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"He was the governor, in the same business as me, and from time to time, of course I had to make contact regarding professional matters".

Bosnia genocide victims protest Gaza offensive

Common thread.

re: #88 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Sorry, I slipped on the snow-and-ice, hurt my wrist and can't type one-handed worth a Blago. Make that Trooper.

Sorry, couldn't resist pouncing on the slip.

re: #106 chicagodudewhotrades

Now that Blago is in deep Sh%^ , I wonder if he starts talking about Dems he may have dirt on? His political career is over, if singing to the feds keeps him out of jail, then I'd be lighting up a blowtorch on my party too.

that's what i'm wondering

re: #116 Ben Hur

Are we to have a Keith Ellison Haj Trip Funded by Islamic Radicals Thread today?

Gee, I hope so. Followed up by Minnesotans walking into a sinkhole.

re: #122 UberInfidel67

Pounding the piss out of Hamas = "heavy lifting"

Lets just say that I am glad that Egypt is not getting in Israels way while Israel does the heavy lifting.

re: #137 wrenchwench

where he belongs!

re: #139 Ben Hur

Bosnia genocide victims protest Gaza offensive

Common thread.

Wouldn't "genocide victims" by definition be... er... dead?

re: #125 albusteve

exactly what I hoped for two weeks ago...Egypt got some splainin to do

The rumors up north are that Shanahan might resurface in Dallas? You hearing that also?

re: #121 jwb7605

I don't know about the Obama Way, but I think the phrase "you are dead to me" is accurate no matter what course Blago would choose: Prison or Fighting back.

When you think of Illinois politics and political figures, think of The Godfather, Casino, and Goodfellas.

re: #111 Occasional Reader

At the Blago press conference a couple of weeks ago at which he announced his choice of Burris, Blago suddenly "noticed" former Black Panther Bobby Rush in the audience (quel surprise), and invited him up to the podium; Rush then gave a thinly-veiled warning that there would be race riots if the US Senate doesn't seat Burris.

No shit? This guy Blago truely is a scumbag. Thanks.

re: #133 Nevergiveup

Think that group would fund a trip to Israel for me and my family?

Well, we have Birthright, they have Bombright.

re: #139 Ben Hur

Bosnia genocide victims protest Gaza offensive

Common thread.

Freak en ignorant bastards

re: #145 Occasional Reader

Wouldn't "genocide victims" by definition be... er... dead?

Not by the modern "journalism" definition.

That is not the [insert criminal here] I knew.

Ain't it just amazing the number who successfully hid their real personas from Barry? Makes ya wonder, don't it?

re: #133 Nevergiveup

Think that group would fund a trip to Israel for me and my family?

I want a trip to the United Kingdom, book me a room at the Tower Of London...)

re: #143 Creeping Eruption
As am I : )

Did anybody see the morning sermon from Obama, introducing the CIA and intelligence picks?

All questions were economy related, of course ...

re: #145 Occasional Reader

Wouldn't "genocide victims" by definition be... er... dead?

Don't let mere semantics ruin an otherwise perfectly irrational appeal to naked emotion.

One group of Muslims is feeling solidarity with another. Can't you feel the love?

re: #145 Occasional Reader

Wouldn't "genocide victims" by definition be... er... dead?

OMG.

THAT is great.

re: #146 Nevergiveup

The rumors up north are that Shanahan might resurface in Dallas? You hearing that also?

I tossed out that suggestion after Shanahan got fired, but Jerry is sticking to his 3-year plan with Philips.

Stay tuned for next year if Shanahan is still available and the Cowboys meltdown again in 2009.

re: #127 Honorary Yooper

Good grief, now she was a trip. She made an attempt to live in Cabrini-Green (under armed guard, of course) for a few weeks.

For you non-Chicago folks, Cabrini-Green was a huge gawd awful slum housing project.

re: #130 dhg4

But don't the media folks tell us how important transparency in government is?

Thanks to the freedom of information act anyone in the world with internet access can now see my annual salary in two clicks. Somehow that didn't manage to make transparent the cluster*** that is the federal budget process or keep ballots from mysteriously appearing the the trunks of Minnesota election officials cars.

Grrr...

re: #149 Ben Hur

Well, we have Birthright, they have Bombright.

Good one, but unless they dramatically raised the age limit for me... Actually my kids have been a few times, but I footed the bill.

re: #153 Dustyvet

I want a trip to the United Kingdom, book me a room at the Tower Of London...)

Barry tried that with a trip to Blair House.

re: #64 buzzsawmonkey

Frog march! Frog march!

Perp walk...

I want to see Fitzmas! /

My Blackberry keeps chirping. I need to get back to work. BBL.

re: #139 Ben Hur

Bosnia genocide victims protest Gaza offensive

Common thread.

Make a note. Don't save them from the Serbs next time.

re: #93 MandyManners

Beats me.

CNN can supply the proof if they want...
/

re: #114 midwestgak

Impeachment doesn't mean automatic powerlessness. um, Clinton was impeached but not removed from office.

Hey gal, I was talking about conviction in the Fitzgerald probe. I have a sinking feeling he is going to walk. It looks like in the mean time he will be stripped of his power.

The action sets the stage for a Senate trial on whether he should be thrown out of office for corruption and abuse of power.

Are those the actual charges? Evidence in this trial could be fun.

Yes, Israel Can Win in Gaza by Edward Luttwak
Israel is significantly weakening Hamas – with Palestinian help.

With few exceptions, Israeli ground forces are not advancing frontally but are instead mounting a multiplicity of raids. If their target intelligence remains as good as it was during the air attack, they will run out of targets in a matter of days. That is when a cease-fire with credible monitoring would be possible and desirable for both sides as the only alternative to renewed occupation.

An excellent rebuttal to the idiotic Time essay.

re: #145 Occasional Reader

Wouldn't "genocide victims" by definition be... er... dead?

By the way, the not-so-subtle implication of the piece is that Israel is engaging in a genocide against the Gazans, something that is not only provably false, but absolutely slanderous.

Israel is taking its own casualties now to ensure that innocent Gazans don't get killed. The Serbs never did that.

Meanwhile, Hamas has had its hands full killing other Gazans itself.

re: #147 Honorary Yooper

When you think of Illinois politics and political figures, think of The Godfather, Casino, and Goodfellas.

Those folks have waaay more class than illinois politicians.

re: #166 albusteve

CNN can supply the proof if they want...
/

Thanks. I forgot about that. Case closed.
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re: #147 Honorary Yooper

When you think of Illinois politics and political figures, think of The Godfather, Casino, and Goodfellas.

Hey Yooper - at least the references you cite are popular.

re: #168 Sharmuta

Are those the actual charges? Evidence in this trial could be fun.

I only hope that someone starts singing like a canary and begins naming names. I'd like to see a few more Chicago scumbags head to the pokie.

re: #152 unreconstructed rebel

Ain't it just amazing the number who successfully hid their real personas from Barry? Makes ya wonder, don't it?

I am actually starting to believe that Barry may just be the most naive person in the world. Completely clueless.

Walks in on Michelle and Rev. Wright in his bed.

"Hey Barack... nothing going on in here...just mosey on out the door. These are not the droids you are looking for..." Rev. Wright waves hand in Jedi mind trick fashion.

"Ok. Nothing to see here. Moving along." Obama leaves.
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re: #147 Honorary Yooper

When you think of Illinois politics and political figures, think of The Godfather, Casino, and Goodfellas.

Don't forget The Untouchables and The Blues Brothers

Buchanan thread?

Am I wrong in thinking that Blago might be persuaded to zip his lip, in exchange for promised cash later, after he gets out of Club Fed?

re: #159 midwestgak

For you non-Chicago folks, Cabrini-Green was a huge gawd awful slum housing project.

My wife lived just down the road, and when we were dating, I would drive through Cabrini from the highway to get there. You wouldnt have even known there were projects there nowadays - except for a heavily fortified looking grocery store stuck between to $500k townhouses. LOL.

What happens if Blago runs in the Democratic Primary for President in 2012?

Can you picture Blago and Obama in a debate?

Wow.

re: #145 Occasional Reader

Wouldn't "genocide victims" by definition be... er... dead?

Picky. Picky. Picky.

re: #123 bloodnok

At the very least this isn't the Blago he DID know.

Hi Mandy! I'm waving to you! Can you see me?

re: #145 Occasional Reader

Wouldn't "genocide victims" by definition be... er... dead?

Not necessarily. Palestinian "genocide victims™" are proliferating at an alarming rate.

re: #178 Ward Cleaver

Am I wrong in thinking that Blago might be persuaded to zip his lip, in exchange for promised cash later, after he gets out of Club Fed?

Why have you seen BeBe Rebozo around?

I guess I view impeachment of public servants differently from criminal or civil indictment of an individual. The latter two actions are in response to the breaking of laws.

Impeachment of this governor shouldn't depend on whether or not he broke a law. It should depend on whether or not he abused the public trust. As far as I'm concerned, it could cover unacceptable behavior in public, incompetence in the operation of the state government, or simple abuse of power.

For the sake of our children and grandchildren, it is important to teach a simple lesson: when you seek office, it should only be because you wish to perform a public service to the best of your ability. If you fail in that, you will be impeached and removed from office.

Yeah, I know. I'm a dreamer.

re: #175 Oh no...Sand People!

That is cruel. ROFLMAO

re: #184 Kenneth

Not necessarily. Palestinian "genocide victims™" are proliferating at an alarming rate.

In refugee camps, no less.

re: #178 Ward Cleaver

Am I wrong in thinking that Blago might be persuaded to zip his lip, in exchange for promised cash later, after he gets out of Club Fed?

That's exactly what Blago is banking on.

re: #146 Nevergiveup

The rumors up north are that Shanahan might resurface in Dallas? You hearing that also?

not gonna happen...no way...he's done for awhile...Dallas wants Jason Garrett in after next year...their OC...if they can keep him that long

re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hi Mandy! I'm waving to you! Can you see me?

No.

re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hi Mandy! I'm waving to you! Can you see me?

It's me, it's me, it's Ernest T...:)

re: #179 Creeping Eruption

My wife lived just down the road, and when we were dating, I would drive through Cabrini from the highway to get there. You wouldnt have even known there were projects there nowadays - except for a heavily fortified looking grocery store stuck between to $500k townhouses. LOL.

I expect Projects will be making a comeback after the 20th. With the same dismal results.

Akim Tamiroff for Governor of Illinois, in his absence Fast Eddie Vrdolyak.

re: #178 Ward Cleaver

Am I wrong in thinking that Blago might be persuaded to zip his lip, in exchange for promised cash later, after he gets out of Club Fed?

I get the impression "after" is not realistic, after his recent actions. I also think "promised cash" might be as attractive as a California tax refund to him.

re: #128 looking closely

Impeachment = indictment, that's it.

The impeached one still has to lose at trial (in this case a Senate trial) to be removed from office.

Hey LC, what effect will the impeachment have on Fitzgerald's case if any?

re: #176 DaddyG

Don't forget The Untouchables and The Blues Brothers

I like the line from "The Untouchables"

Mountie Captain: I do not approve of your methods!
Ness: Yeah, well... You're not from Chicago.

LGF just got a hat tip on Rush!

re: #196 turn

Hey LC, what effect will the impeachment have on Fitzgerald's case if any?

If they make public to much of his "evidence" it could cause problems.

re: #179 Creeping Eruption

My wife lived just down the road, and when we were dating, I would drive through Cabrini from the highway to get there. You wouldnt have even known there were projects there nowadays - except for a heavily fortified looking grocery store stuck between to $500k townhouses. LOL.

Yes. Some things Do change for the better. Stockyards closed in the early 70's. Only the stone gate into what was the stockyards remains.

re: #197 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yep. Or the great Sean Connery line: "What are you prepared to do? Well?"

re: #198 Jetpilot1101

LGF just got a hat tip on Rush!

About what?

OT: Rush just mentioned LGF in reference to the CNN staged Palestinian scene.

LGF just got credit from Rush Limbaugh for causing CNN to pull the video.

re: #159 midwestgak

For you non-Chicago folks, Cabrini-Green was a huge gawd awful slum housing project.

Don't you mean an ethnically diverse high rise urban community with a thriving entreprenurial phramicutical distribution business and well equiped volunteer militia?

Rush just mentioned LGF!

re: #198 Jetpilot1101

LGF just got a hat tip on Rush!

Dang. Beat me to it.

Anybody here listen to Rush?

Let's think about this:

A crooked politician will do your bidding.
Mr. Clean Gene wants to straighten the place out.

Which one do you want in office?

re: #202 Sharmuta

About what?

He gave Charles the credit for calling out CNN on the fake Hamas pictures ad getting CNN to remove them from their website.

re: #198 Jetpilot1101

LGF just got a hat tip on Rush!

For what?

re: #6 Conservative in Liberal Hands

It's now time to watch everyone Jump on Blago. Props to Picayune, who posted it to the links before me.

Just trying to do my bit for humanity. Now, will Blago get ready to "sing for his supper" (reduced sentence(s) ) to Fitz. If so, we ain't seen nothing yet. Stay tuned, it could be the thread that unravels the Dem machine. Thanks for the acknowledgment, Conserv.

re: #206 JammieWearingFool

Rush just mentioned LGF!

Better warm up the back up hammsters!

HA! Rush Limbaugh just cited LGF as the source for busting CNN on their faux hamas pictures!

re: #195 jwb7605

I get the impression "after" is not realistic, after his recent actions. I also think "promised cash" might be as attractive as a California tax refund to him.

I predict he will do absolutely anything to avoid jail...I would

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody here listen to Rush?

Not since the election.

re: #204 Dianna

LGF just got credit from Rush Limbaugh for causing CNN to pull the video.

f*cking sweet!

re: #198 Jetpilot1101

LGF just got a hat tip on Rush!

Tell us more!

re: #211 Jetpilot1101

He gave Charles the credit for calling out CNN on the fake Hamas pictures ad getting CNN to remove them from their website.

Fantastic!

re: #206 JammieWearingFool

Rush just mentioned LGF!

That's great but call me when he starts mention us individually by our nicknames!

re: #185 Nevergiveup

Why have you seen BeBe Rebozo around?

Wow, haven't heard that name in years.

Hey Rush, I'm waiving. Can you see me?
/

re: #196 turn

Hey LC, what effect will the impeachment have on Fitzgerald's case if any?

Zip.

Fitzgerald is looking at a criminal conviction with an associated penalty of jail time.

The IL Senate is looking to get Blago removed from office.

Blago could be convicted by the Senate and stripped of office, but not convicted criminally. So he could lose his job and walk (which could be awfully dangerous for the ones he has "dirt" on).

Alternatively, he could be convicted criminally and sent to jail. At that point, the default would probably be that he be stripped of office, but I don't know that there is a specific legal requirement that says than an imprisoned convict can't serve as Governor of the State of IL!

re: #217 Sharmuta

Just being a [finger] smart ass, previous 6 comments were, "Hey, LGF just mentioned on Rush!"

re: #220 MandyManners

Fantastic!

It warmed the cockles of my heart!

Rush, I can see your house from here!

I just read on LGF that Rush gave a hat tip to LGF!
/(ducks under desk)

re: #221 Nevergiveup

That's great but call me when he starts mention us individually by our nicknames!

I can't hear Rush. I'm too faraway.

re: #226 Jetpilot1101

It warmed the cockles of my heart!

Heh, heh, "cockles."

re: #222 BignJames

Wow, haven't heard that name in years.

Is my age showing?

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody here listen to Rush?

Why would I do that, when I could get more or less the same information here on LGF 1-3 days sooner?

re: #205 DaddyG

Good one. Updinged ya.

re: #204 Dianna

LGF just got credit from Rush Limbaugh for causing CNN to pull the video.

WOOHOO!

re: #194 lifeofthemind

Akim Tamiroff for Governor of Illinois, in his absence Fast Eddie Vrdolyak.

Fast Eddie's going to Federal Pen too.

re: #217 Sharmuta

Not since the election.

heh...

re: #221 Nevergiveup

That's great but call me when he starts mention us individually by our nicknames!

LOL. I thought the same thing. How about interviews on TV with the screwed up voice thingy and the pixelated face?

re: #235 Honorary Yooper

Fast Eddie's going to Federal Pen too.

God, I hope you're right about PA's Fast Eddie (Rendell).

I think it's really great that Rush credits blogs/bloggers.

It's more than some people do. Fox news- I'm looking at you.

re: #208 buzzsawmonkey

Back in the early '70s, when I was driving a cab, there was a story going around the garage that a social worker had hailed one of the cabbies and asked to be driven to Cabrini. He not only did not take her (which is, of course, a threat to one's hack license), he supposedly yanked her out of the cab and slapped her for suggesting it. He was regarded as a hero for doing so.

I have no idea whether the story was true, nor whether the story, common at the same time, that the police would drive through Cabrini with their interior lights on to show they were black and therefore would be less likely to be shot, is true. Frankly, I think both are exaggerations.

They do, however, show how Cabrini-Green was regarded in its heyday.

Whats worse? Cabrini or the Robert Taylor Homes? Never saw those, but . . .

It always surprised me how close Cabrini was to the Gold Coast.

re: #201 subsailor68

Yep. Or the great Sean Connery line: "What are you prepared to do? Well?"

and don't forget "What? Can't talk with a gun in your mouth?"

re: #237 bellamags

LOL. I thought the same thing. How about interviews on TV with the screwed up voice thingy and the pixelated face?

I think there would probably be many lizards perfectly willing to appear on camera with their actual names and images.

re: #239 Sharmuta

I think it's really great that Rush credits blogs/bloggers.

It's more than some people do. Fox news- I'm looking at you.

upding. Nice observation!

re: #45 Conservative in Liberal Hands
That's only slightly less miraculous than seeing actual tears welling up in the eyes of a statue of the Virgin Mary...

...and about as common.

re: #242 looking closely

I think there would probably be many lizards perfectly willing to appear on camera with their actual names and images.

Not me, I have a blog face.

re: #205 DaddyG

Don't you mean an ethnically diverse high rise urban community with a thriving entrepreneurial pharmaceutical distribution business and well equipped volunteer militia?

Now if can just learn to spell!

/PIMF

re: #236 albusteve

I like Rush- I just haven't tuned in. I mean- this is Sharmuta you're talking to. The problem with talk radio for me is I want to call in and speak my mind.

re: #242 looking closely

I think there would probably be many lizards perfectly willing to appear on camera with their actual names and images.

Oh. Yep. I would -- but I know a couple that wouldn't

re: #242 looking closely

I think there would probably be many lizards perfectly willing to appear on camera with their actual names and images.

Not necessarily if everything we have ever typed here is search able? Hell I am only sober 75% of the time.

re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody here listen to Rush?

I am a fairly regular listener. Used to do the podcasts, but cut that loose recently.

re: #231 Nevergiveup

Is my age showing?

Mmm...counting...in my head.

From "The Untouchables" also. I think Patty Blago quoted this directly from the movie...

"I want you to get this fuck where he breathes! I want you to find this nancy-boy, I want him DEAD! I want his family DEAD! I want his house burned to the GROUND! I wanna go there in the middle of the night and I wanna PISS ON HIS ASHES!"

re: #241 Leonidas Hoplite

and don't forget "What? Can't talk with a gun in your mouth?"

Oh yeah! The scene of the raid on the trucks on the bridge is one of my favorites. Well, along with the pull-back crane shot as the four of them cross the street in the first raid.

For our country's sake, I hope Mr. Obama is untainted and unformed by the corruption in the milieu from which he came.

re: #249 Nevergiveup

Not necessarily if everything we have ever typed here is search able? Hell I am only sober 75% of the time.

HAAA. hmmm. let me think about that one.

The Chicago Way

re: #251 BignJames

Mmm...counting...in my head.

I guess I probably lost some of the youngsters on that one.

re: #247 Sharmuta

I like Rush- I just haven't tuned in. I mean- this is Sharmuta you're talking to. The problem with talk radio for me is I want to call in and speak my mind.

And the problem with that is...what?

For non-Chicago observers the key thing about Cabrini-Green was that it was exactly one mile from Water Tower and the most expensive shopping district of Upper Michigan Avenue with the wealthy living nearby in the North-East enclave. That is why Mayor Daley issued his famous "shoot to kill" order during the race riots of the 60's If the rioters from the projects had marched a few blocks East then they would have been in the homes of the wealthiest power brokers.

re: #242 looking closely

I think there would probably be many lizards perfectly willing to appear on camera with their actual names and images.

Just like Joe the Plumber, and I'm not knocking him for taking advantage of the situation.
Usually, my big problem is actually saying something worth knowing.

re: #258 scottishbuzzsaw

And the problem with that is...what?

I can't always get through, and that's frustrating. It's why I like blogs better.