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Open | Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:17:28 pm PST

I have said to you to speak the truth is a painful thing. To be forced to tell lies is much worse.

Oscar Wilde

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1 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:19:13pm

I am just a country boy,

Country boy at heart...


2 spirochete  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:19:59pm

I used to be married, too, Oscar.

3 spirochete  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:21:34pm

To advance an idea from the last thread, linking this Gaza hospital video to the idea that Hamas leaders are posing as doctors and nurses in hospitals to hide, there may be a lot more information in that video than we initially realized.

Maybe Mad Mads is Hamas?

4 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:22:32pm

re: #1 Noam Sayin'

Hmmm. Says "Embedding disabled by request".

Test.

5 gmsc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:23:12pm

Let's kick this into high for Friday night! (NSFW)

6 Desert Dog  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:24:00pm

Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.
-Oscar Wilde, De Profundis, 1905

Ya! What he said!

7 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:24:00pm

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

Works for me.

8 SurferDoc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:24:11pm

*tap...tap* Is this thing on?

9 zombie  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:24:47pm

re: #3 spirochete

Maybe Mad Mads is Hamas?

He's quite obviously the Norwegian cell leader, that's for sure.

I recently heard that there were Hamas cells in at least 20 American cities, including San Francisco. It only dawned on me then that the Hamas "supporters" at these locals rallies whom I encounter might very well be Hamas members -- i.e. they are Hamas.

Spooky, to say the least.

10 Desert Dog  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:27:18pm

One of my fav guitarists.....Mr. Knopfler has the chops

11 gmsc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:28:42pm

And, from Sexy, Naughty, Disney, we go to Sesame Street for Avenue Q's "The Internet Is For Porn":

12 spirochete  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:28:47pm

re: #9 zombie

He's quite obviously the Norwegian cell leader, that's for sure.

I recently heard that there were Hamas cells in at least 20 American cities, including San Francisco. It only dawned on me then that the Hamas "supporters" at these locals rallies whom I encounter might very well be Hamas members -- i.e. they are Hamas.

Spooky, to say the least.

I'd bet there were more than 20. This is why I love the Patriot Act. Prior to that gem, they could easily get away with that type of organizing.

13 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:30:24pm

Allison Krauss has the voice of an angel.

14 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:30:43pm

Uh oh, i think the lounge fell off its collective barstool.

15 Sharku  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:31:13pm

Wont be long now befor the Patriot Act is rescinded or at the least re-written to protect the rights of terrorists.

16 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:31:29pm

re: #7 Noam Sayin'

When I click on the one in your post, that's what it says. If I click on the video window itself, it goes right to the youtube vid, no problem. Mine works for me, though. Go figure.

17 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:31:33pm

More of Jerry Douglas...

Alright, good night, youse all.

18 spirochete  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:31:42pm

I guess I would be more afraid of the Al Qaeda cells. Those guys blend in and you would never suspect. I remember reading about how a lot of cesium supplies and waste were disappearing from North Carolina hospitals several years ago. Then I read that some of the 9/11 guys lived in Greensboro for awhile.

You just never know.

19 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:33:17pm

Sharkie,

You get bounced too?

20 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:33:40pm

re: #9 zombie

He's quite obviously the Norwegian cell leader, that's for sure.

I recently heard that there were Hamas cells in at least 20 American cities, including San Francisco. It only dawned on me then that the Hamas "supporters" at these locals rallies whom I encounter might very well be Hamas members -- i.e. they are Hamas.

Spooky, to say the least.

Hi Zom!
I up dinged you..just it's nice seeing you...plus i had roll over dings from last month. :)

21 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:34:30pm

PETA wants to save sea kittens.

My Cat Overlord is not amused.

22 Sharku  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:34:40pm

Yes'm and it is still busted :(

Im feeling all nervous posting in the threads.

23 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:35:56pm

re: #22 Sharku

Damn, I need a wine icon, fast!

24 gmsc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:36:17pm

And now, a classic - Paula Abdul's "Cold Hearted Snake":

25 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:36:41pm

re: #5 gmsc

Let's kick this into high for Friday night! (NSFW)


[Video]

Damn those evil, liberal bastids, dirtying up those wholesome Disney cartoons. What will they do next? Maybe depict beloved Disney icons smoking, drinking, and acting slutty?

The nerve!
/

26 zombie  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:37:04pm

re: #15 Sharku

Wont be long now befor the Patriot Act is rescinded or at the least re-written to protect the rights of terrorists.

I never quite understood the need for Patriot Act in the first place. I mean, I read way back in the '90s that the NSA routinely monitored ALL internet traffic and most cell-tower transmissions. No warrant, no nothin' -- because they weren't (supposedly) spying for individuals but rather scanning for patterns -- "chatter," as it were. And that when necessary, they could focus in on individual communications.

It seems that all the Patriot Act did was certify as legitimate these pr-existing NSA activities. But if it is rescinded, I assume (and hope, frankly) that they just revert to doing it surreptitiously.

27 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:37:05pm

re: #24 gmsc

Ohh, I remember that one from high school.

28 zombie  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:37:31pm

re: #20 HoosierHoops

Hi Zom!
I up dinged you..just it's nice seeing you...plus i had roll over dings from last month. :)

Use 'em or lose 'em!

29 gmsc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:37:37pm

re: #21 ggt

PETA wants to save sea kittens.

My Cat Overlord is not amused.

I don't want to save them - they leave sea biscuits everywhere!

30 Sharku  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:38:26pm

At least with the Patriot Act, they can use the information in the courts.

31 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:39:14pm

re: #30 Sharku

Like it will matter once the one stacks the courts with marxist judges.

32 zombie  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:39:46pm

re: #21 ggt

PETA wants to save sea kittens.

My Cat Overlord is not amused.

Sea Kittens? I thought they were the Tampa Bay Bucaneers cheerleading squad.

33 Desert Dog  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:40:08pm

re: #15 Sharku

Wont be long now befor the Patriot Act is rescinded or at the least re-written to protect the rights of terrorists.

When you elect people that are more concerned about the "rights" of scumbags caught on a battlefield than the citizens, this is what you get. Every time I hear one of these people go off about how the "rights" of the subhumans at Guantanamo being stepped on, I want to puke....I really think there are people in the country that would rather see the USA destroyed than to deny someone their precious rights....Rights that they don't even have nor do they deserve. Not that long ago, if we found non uniformed "irregulars" on a battlefield, they were lined up and shot.

Once "the One" is in, Guantanamo will be closed and I bet we will start seeing trials of these guys in regular US Courts. I bet the ones that get off will turn and sue the USA, either that or go back to whatever shithole they came from and start killing US Soldiers again........or both!

34 gmsc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:40:46pm

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

Damn those evil, liberal bastids, dirtying up those wholesome Disney cartoons. What will they do next? Maybe depict beloved Disney icons smoking, drinking, and acting slutty?


[Video]

The nerve!
/

I'll see that and raise you Ariel wishing for female genitalia:

35 Sharku  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:41:06pm

What is a sea kitten and more importantly, what do they taste like ?

36 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:41:35pm

re: #35 Sharku

What is a sea kitten and more importantly, what do they taste like ?

The new politically correct name for fish.

37 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:41:51pm

re: #35 Sharku

I'm picturing shrimp scampi. Or lobster tails in drawn butter.

38 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:43:17pm

re: #22 Sharku

Yes'm and it is still busted :(

Im feeling all nervous posting in the threads.

We don't bite here. OK maybe sometimes/

39 Desert Dog  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:43:36pm

re: #35 Sharku

What is a sea kitten and more importantly, what do they taste like ?

Mmmmmmm, tasty

40 gmsc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:43:46pm

re: #27 bebe's boobs destroy

Ohh, I remember that one from high school.

It's one of my favorites. It reminds me of this one:

41 Sharku  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:44:07pm

33 Desert Dog

I think the gitmo detainees should be released immediatly. Taken out into international waters ... and release them.

42 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:44:15pm

re: #39 Desert Dog

Mmmmmmm, tasty

LOL

43 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:44:15pm

re: #38 Erik The Red

We don't bite here. OK maybe sometimes/

What's kicking chicken?

44 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:44:59pm

re: #22 Sharku

Yes'm and it is still busted :(

Im feeling all nervous posting in the threads.

Why are you feeling nervous?

45 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:45:32pm

re: #38 Erik The Red

We don't bite here. OK maybe sometimes/

But, only after a proper BBQ.

46 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:45:43pm

re: #9 zombie

He's quite obviously the Norwegian cell leader, that's for sure.

I recently heard that there were Hamas cells in at least 20 American cities, including San Francisco. It only dawned on me then that the Hamas "supporters" at these locals rallies whom I encounter might very well be Hamas members -- i.e. they are Hamas.

Spooky, to say the least.

no...... Sppoky would be reassuring.....

/assuming you had good commo, of course. %-)

47 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:46:11pm

I booked a tour with Allison Krauss for a musician I represented, my friend, Billy McLaughlin. I really wished I could have been on that tour.

On their stop in Knoxville, we set up an impromptu gig at a shopping mall, where Billy would busk and the road manager would sell CDs, picking up an extra $1k or so on the trip (record company wasn't familiar with 'tour support').

As Billy performed, a man in the crowd studied his hand-work; bewildered and amazed. Then he finally went up to the tour manager and asked, "What in THE hell is that boy doin' with that there guitar?"

Focal dystonia set in a year later. This would have ended most guitarists careers. Not Billy. Billy took to learning the guitar all over again - left handed. One of the most amazing people I've ever known.

48 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:46:35pm

re: #35 Sharku

What is a sea kitten and more importantly, what do they taste like ?

cat food.

if G*d had meant us to eat fish, she wouldn't have made the land animals so easy to catch.

49 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:46:41pm

re: #40 gmsc

Hey, that is my favorite Billy Idol song! Now you need If Looks Could Kill from Heart.

50 Sharku  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:46:47pm

44 ggt
I fear the ban stick, and with my big mouth I can see it happening.

51 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:46:52pm

re: #43 HoosierHoops

What's kicking chicken?

Hey 2H. Not much licking. At work as usual on a Sat. morning.

52 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:47:28pm

re: #50 Sharku

44 ggt
I fear the ban stick, and with my big mouth I can see it happening.

A healthy respect for Stinky is appropriate.

53 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:47:35pm

re: #45 ggt

Geez, how many times do I have to tell people. Do NOT eat the trolls. Your intestines will hate you.

54 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:47:55pm

re: #46 redc1c4

no...... Sppoky would be reassuring.....

/assuming you had good commo, of course. %-)

Spooky..................

PIFW!

55 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:48:04pm

re: #41 Sharku

Shark infested international waters?

56 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:48:40pm

re: #53 bebe's boobs destroy

Geez, how many times do I have to tell people. Do NOT eat the trolls. Your intestines will hate you.

no, no, no. That only applies to raw trolls. Properly BBQ'd they are very digestible.

57 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:49:43pm

re: #56 ggt

58 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:50:07pm

Whoops. GGT, you must have a cast iron stomache.

59 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:50:23pm

Trolls fear H O N C O S ™

60 spirochete  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:50:26pm

re: #33 Desert Dog

When you elect people that are more concerned about the "rights" of scumbags caught on a battlefield than the citizens, this is what you get. Every time I hear one of these people go off about how the "rights" of the subhumans at Guantanamo being stepped on, I want to puke....I really think there are people in the country that would rather see the USA destroyed than to deny someone their precious rights....Rights that they don't even have nor do they deserve. Not that long ago, if we found non uniformed "irregulars" on a battlefield, they were lined up and shot.

Once "the One" is in, Guantanamo will be closed and I bet we will start seeing trials of these guys in regular US Courts. I bet the ones that get off will turn and sue the USA, either that or go back to whatever shithole they came from and start killing US Soldiers again........or both!


I still allow for the possibility that Gitmo is a distraction for public consumption. There may be blacker holding cells elsewhere.

61 gmsc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:50:33pm

re: #49 bebe's boobs destroy

Hey, that is my favorite Billy Idol song! Now you need If Looks Could Kill from Heart.

62 Sharku  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:50:34pm

see bebes, us lounge lizards are acting all goofy here in the threads.

63 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:50:45pm

re: #51 Erik The Red

Hey 2H. Not much licking. At work as usual on a Sat. morning.

So all those times we were at work and you were setting by the pool with scotch in hand teasing..
LOL
How does it feel now?
/hope you are well

64 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:51:10pm

re: #15 Sharku

Wont be long now before the Patriot Act is rescinded or at the least re-written to protect the rights of make us terrorists.


FTFY!

65 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:51:19pm

re: #58 bebe's boobs destroy

Whoops. GGT, you must have a cast iron stomache.

H O N C O ™ stomach!

66 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:52:13pm

re: #63 HoosierHoops

So all those times we were at work and you were setting by the pool with scotch in hand teasing..
LOL
How does it feel now?
/hope you are well

HH, I haven't looked outside lately. Is it still blizzarding?

BTW, how are you?

67 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:52:56pm

BIG HONCO IS RIPPING US OFF!

68 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:53:11pm

Big H O N C O ™ is ripping us off!

69 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:53:32pm

re: #62 Sharku

see bebes, us lounge lizards are acting all goofy here in the threads.

I dunno. Its soooooo slooooowww though. Heh.

70 ggt  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:53:46pm

re: #67 HoosierHoops

BIG HONCO IS RIPPING US OFF!

Of course, they are infringing on ™ rights.

:0

71 gmsc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:54:36pm

re: #69 bebe's boobs destroy

I dunno. Its soooooo slooooowww though. Heh.

Let's throw a little fun into the music, then!

72 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:54:44pm

re: #67 HoosierHoops

BIG HONCO IS RIPPING US OFF!

friking browser locked up on the copy & paste, ya bastage!

on the upside, it's going to be 80* or so here tomorrow.

/global warming!

73 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:55:28pm

re: #34 gmsc

"Stunts" are required for nearly everything?

Holy shit, dude. Don't tell my ex, I don't "require" her for anything.

/I kid. I "require" her to leave me the hell alone. Stalkers suck.

74 bebe's boobs destroy  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:56:10pm

re: #71 gmsc

Embedding disabled by request.

Think its beddy bai time though. Nite Nite.

75 Sharku  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:56:40pm

The paraquat er parachat site is totally down, so it isnt just our lounge thats busted.

76 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:56:52pm

re: #66 ggt

HH, I haven't looked outside lately. Is it still blizzarding?

BTW, how are you?

Thanks for asking..we are hunkered down..It's real bad weather for the next 24 hours.. It is pouring down rain and the temp is going to drop fast and we will get another ice storm then snow in the morning...It's going to be bad..

77 gmsc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:57:23pm

re: #71 gmsc

Let's throw a little fun into the music, then!


[Video]

Oops . . . trying again:

78 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:57:28pm

re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth

"Stunts" are required for nearly everything?

Holy shit, dude. Don't tell my ex, I don't "require" her for anything.

/I kid. I "require" her to leave me the hell alone. Stalkers suck.

did she go psycho on ya, or were you slow on the uptake?

/just curious........ %-)

79 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:57:53pm

re: #78 redc1c4

Both.

80 traderjoe9  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:58:09pm

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Excellent article.

Many people ask why there are so few Israeli casualties in comparison with the Palestinian death toll. It's because Israel's first priority is the safety of its citizens, which is why there are shelters and warning systems in Israeli towns. If Hamas can dig tunnels, it can certainly build shelters. Instead, it prefers to use women and children as human shields while its leaders rush into hiding.

81 gmsc  Fri, Jan 9, 2009 11:58:17pm

re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth

"Stunts" are required for nearly everything?

Holy shit, dude. Don't tell my ex, I don't "require" her for anything.

/I kid. I "require" her to leave me the hell alone. Stalkers suck.

"Stunts"? No.

Remove the "St" at the beginning, and replace it with a "C".

82 Sharku  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:00:07am

80 traderjoe9
It is simple really, the IDF does not use Toddler Armor.

83 Sharku  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:02:46am

Hmmm I should stay away from the Hamas topic, Stinky will get me for sure....

84 ggt  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:03:23am

re: #76 HoosierHoops

Thanks for asking..we are hunkered down..It's real bad weather for the next 24 hours.. It is pouring down rain and the temp is going to drop fast and we will get another ice storm then snow in the morning...It's going to be bad..

yuk!

85 DJ Wahaba  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:03:39am

I don't know Oscar, I don't really see any truth seeking journalist suffering because "somebody" forces them to tell a story... On the contrary- they seam to like it

86 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:03:56am

re: #81 gmsc

I know, hence the quotes. I was editing that for the more sensitive Lizards. Just trying to be amicable.

/did I just type "hence"? Sheesh!

87 gmsc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:04:34am

Two classic that go well together:

Disney's "Alice In Wonderland" and Rocky Horror Picture Show's "Time Warp"!

88 gmsc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:05:10am

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

I know, hence the quotes. I was editing that for the more sensitive Lizards. Just trying to be amicable.

/did I just type "hence"? Sheesh!

Ah! Understood.

/Hence, you are forgiven.

89 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:05:26am

re: #76 HoosierHoops

Thanks for asking..we are hunkered down..It's real bad weather for the next 24 hours.. It is pouring down rain and the temp is going to drop fast and we will get another ice storm then snow in the morning...It's going to be bad..

that sucks....

i'm just glad i hit the store today for enough cheep beer to get me through the first part of the weekend. %-)

90 traderjoe9  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:05:29am

re: #82 Sharku

80 traderjoe9
It is simple really, the IDF does not use Toddler Armor.

I know the answer is simple...and its really another story that Hamas and other terrorists do indeed use children and women as human shields. For me, I appreciated the fact that the writer mentioned how Israel itself is dedicated to the security of its citizens first. Hundreds of terrorists used to pour out of the West Bank and attack targets in Israel...and now as a result of tight presence in the West Bank, as well as the Security Wall among other things, the number of terrorist attacks has dwindled significantly.

This isn't to say that it wont happen again in the future and that we should stop worrying...absolutely not. But it is good to note.

91 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:06:22am

re: #81 gmsc

"Stunts"? No.

Remove the "St" at the beginning, and replace it with a "C".

or a "K", if the situation is extreme..... %-)

92 gmsc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:09:15am

All these rock songs and that Alice in Wonderland video make me think of "Dance Magic Dance":

93 Sharku  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:09:50am

90 traderjoe9
The writer had best be carefull, writing a positive story on Israel is a fast track to the unemployment line.

94 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:09:57am

re: #84 ggt

yuk!

LOL
I'll never forget when we transfered out here from Cali..The first really bad ice storm i came running into the house..omg..my car is encased in ice! I also didn't think to have a snow shovel..pathetic!
no crap..I gave up chipping ice from the car and was running outside with hot water in a kool-aid pitcher and pouring it over the car..
you had to be there

95 DJ Wahaba  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:11:41am

Somebody should edit these Hamas' propaganda clips into one video, but I have only one demand: The playback has to be the song "It's a wonderful world".... oh ya...

96 venjanz  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:11:49am

Is the Lizard Lounge down?

97 Sharku  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:12:39am

96 venjanz yup, the whole parachat site is down.

98 venjanz  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:13:34am

Ahh that sucks

99 ggt  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:14:13am

re: #94 HoosierHoops

LOL
I'll never forget when we transfered out here from Cali..The first really bad ice storm i came running into the house..omg..my car is encased in ice! I also didn't think to have a snow shovel..pathetic!
no crap..I gave up chipping ice from the car and was running outside with hot water in a kool-aid pitcher and pouring it over the car..
you had to be there

Didn't you have any neighbors to ask for help?

100 ggt  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:15:15am

re: #94 HoosierHoops

LOL
I'll never forget when we transfered out here from Cali..The first really bad ice storm i came running into the house..omg..my car is encased in ice! I also didn't think to have a snow shovel..pathetic!
no crap..I gave up chipping ice from the car and was running outside with hot water in a kool-aid pitcher and pouring it over the car..
you had to be there

I just chip my way into the car and start the engine. Go in for a couple cuppas and come out and most of the ice has separated from the car and can be brushed off. Of course, this takes forethought and planning.

101 Sharku  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:15:29am

I have been a lizard for over three years and still havent hit 1000 comments, no links, Im pathetic....

102 gmsc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:16:33am

OK, we're going to dig all the way back to 1983 for this next video.

However, even 17 years and thousands of videos later, Vh1 could only find 30 videos that they could declare to be better than this one:

103 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:17:51am

re: #94 HoosierHoops

you had to be there

Not only have I been there, I've done that. :-/

104 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:18:17am

re: #87 gmsc

Cool song, crummy movie.

/Would this be an inappropriate time to confess that I had a crush on Magenta?

105 venjanz  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:18:27am

re: #101 Sharku

Hehe I submit hundreds of links, but rarely comment in a thread.

106 gmsc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:18:32am

re: #102 gmsc

OK, we're going to dig all the way back to 1983 for this next video.

However, even 17 years and thousands of videos later, Vh1 could only find 30 videos that they could declare to be better than this one:

107 DJ Wahaba  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:19:50am

re: #101 Sharku

try this one. It's an oldie but I still love it.
By the way: this is a painful truth

108 gmsc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:21:30am

re: #104 Slumbering Behemoth

Cool song, crummy movie.

/Would this be an inappropriate time to confess that I had a crush on Magenta?

I've always like Labyrinth, but there are bits and pieces I see in it that nobody else seems to.

I think the movie need to be redone as "The Annotated Labyrinth" (by Martin Gardner?), with explanations of the details in each scene.

109 venjanz  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:22:06am

re: #107 DJ Wahaba

That's awesome... I remember first hearing this song on YTMND, but video is great

110 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:22:07am

re: #99 ggt

Didn't you have any neighbors to ask for help?

The reason to move here was space...Blessed to hang out here...And I survey the world from the expanse of cornfields...But let's face it..My survival instints were pretty lame..I have never been so cold...
But after a few years we all got used to it..

111 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:23:32am

re: #103 littleoldlady

Not only have I been there, I've done that. :-/

LOL Miss ya! How are you?

112 venjanz  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:24:16am

So I want to buy a new shotgun next weekend, preferably one I can use for both home defense and hunting for in the $500 range... any advice?

113 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:24:20am

re: #108 gmsc

Wait, I thought we were talking about Rocky Horror, not Labyrinth. I actually thought Labyrinth was pretty cool. I know, I'm a dork sometimes.

114 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:24:52am

Hoosier! :-)

Where ya been?

I'm okay. Expecting a schmutz storm so the barometer woke me up.

115 DJ Wahaba  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:25:31am

re: #109 venjanz

Yep, even though this version is a bit obscured, like the situation in Gaza: you don't really know which Palestinian is killed by Israelis and which by his own co-nationalists %-)

116 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:26:29am

re: #94 HoosierHoops

LOL
I'll never forget when we transfered out here from Cali..The first really bad ice storm i came running into the house..omg..my car is encased in ice! I also didn't think to have a snow shovel..pathetic!
no crap..I gave up chipping ice from the car and was running outside with hot water in a kool-aid pitcher and pouring it over the car..
you had to be there

i'd rather be here in Cali...... %-P

117 gmsc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:26:48am

re: #113 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, I thought we were talking about Rocky Horror, not Labyrinth. I actually thought Labyrinth was pretty cool. I know, I'm a dork sometimes.

Ah, got it. Rocky Horror is supposed to be a bad movie, though. It would be far worse if it was supposed to be a multi-million-dollar extravaganza.

118 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:27:13am

re: #112 venjanz

Benelli makes excellent shotguns for under $500, start here.. [Link: www.benelliusa.com...]

119 gmsc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:27:43am

re: #107 DJ Wahaba

try this one. It's an oldie but I still love it.
By the way: this is a painful truth


[Video]

That makes me think of:

120 ggt  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:28:13am

Back to bed for me.

have a great morning all!

weet dreams all!

121 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:28:47am

re: #114 littleoldlady

Hoosier! :-)

Where ya been?

I'm okay. Expecting a schmutz storm so the barometer woke me up.

It's so messed up here.. It is pouring rain..soon the temp goes freezing..pure ice...
then it snows..
I'm happy to hear everything is good with you...Have a hoopster fruitcup..Lots of oranges..grapes..yogurt

122 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:28:54am

re: #112 venjanz

So I want to buy a new shotgun next weekend, preferably one I can use for both home defense and hunting for in the $500 range... any advice?

Remington 870 Express, with a spare barrel. one long, one short.

Mossberg 500 is ok also, and 2H6 bought herself a Winchester 1300 for Election Day therapy that's pretty nice too.

/i'd still go with the 870. %-)

123 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:29:20am

Looks like Caylee was intentionally killed from forensics and death was around 16 June buried where found around 18 June. Whatever sentence the mom gets won't be enough.

124 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:29:57am

re: #116 redc1c4

i'd rather be here in Cali...... %-P

Born and raised...
Great state

125 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:31:06am

re: #122 redc1c4

Despite putting it on my Christmas list (more than once) you could imagine my disappointemnt at no SPAS-12 under the Christmas tree.

126 venjanz  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:31:17am

re: #122 redc1c4

I think i like this one...

[Link: www.impactguns.com...]

127 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:32:24am

re: #121 HoosierHoops

Oranges, grapes and yogurt? That's...um...so creative! ;-)

128 gmsc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:32:41am

re: #126 venjanz

I think i like this one...

[Link: www.impactguns.com...]

Visit here in Vegas - we'll take you to the gun store, and you practice shooting full automatic weapons!

129 gmsc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:33:37am

Well, I can tell by the effect of the cough medicine on the old noggin that it's time to go beddie bye now.

Good night all!

130 Sharku  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:34:51am

Well all of you Thread Lizards, have a good night and a better day tomorrow.

131 venjanz  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:35:44am

re: #128 gmsc

Last time I went to Vegas was 2005... and I had no idea at the time that I could have ripped it up out at the range. I Did manage to get a tour of the Nevada test site and got an Einstein action figure from the Atomic Testing Museum though hehe.

132 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:35:56am

re: #127 littleoldlady

Oranges, grapes and yogurt? That's...um...so creative! ;-)

If I'm stuck on an island.. If i could have safeway yogurt i'd be good..
Music would be a tougher call...

133 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:36:31am

re: #124 HoosierHoops

Born and raised...
Great state

me too, as is 2H6. winter in the SFV

/we're still here %-)

134 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:38:10am

re: #126 venjanz

I think i like this one...

[Link: www.impactguns.com...]

but will it take a long hunting barrel, and are you paying extra for the word "tactical" in the name?

135 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:39:39am

re: #134 redc1c4


Aren't those polymer Glocks and SIGs the same color as elephant crap also billed as 'tactical'?

136 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:40:01am

re: #112 venjanz

So I want to buy a new shotgun next weekend, preferably one I can use for both home defense and hunting for in the $500 range... any advice?

For double duty like that you want something by Remington.

137 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:42:55am

re: #132 HoosierHoops

If I'm stuck on an island.. If i could have safeway yogurt i'd be good..
Music would be a tougher call...

Learn to sing? ;-)

138 Render  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:44:17am

Shotgun?

7-shot 23mm semi-auto.

===

Rootwater - Hava Nagila

GET
BACK,
R

139 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:45:48am

G'nite Lizards, I'm out. Gonna play a video game for a bit, and maybe do some more research on the alleged cause of gout if the mood strikes me.

Later.

140 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:48:08am

re: #138 Render

Not exactly the Bar Mitzvah version, eh? ;-)

RENDER! :-)

141 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:48:26am

Sea Kittens?
PETA?
Don't kill animals?
My "Land" cat just laid a dead bird at my feet.
What is nature telling us, PETA?

142 winston06  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:48:49am

have a great night every one

143 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:49:08am

re: #137 littleoldlady

Learn to sing? ;-)

LOL
so music...on a desert island.. Tom Petty,Van Halen, compilation of all the great christmas songs..B.B. King.U2..( the early shit) Axis bold as love..

144 winston06  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:49:27am

btw, i always try to stay up when i can to watch Red Eye on FNC. it is a good one

145 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:50:10am

I'm just counting down the days until they make a fragmentation grenade the size of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge shotgun shell....for the purpose of being fired out of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge.

146 venjanz  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:50:12am

re: #134 redc1c4

Good point. The one I had was a "tactical" shotgun, and it looked cool, but I would like one that is more geared to hunting now, I suppose.

147 swamprat  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:52:12am

When a cowboy says "women" he means two different kinds;
there's the real kind, and then there's the kind in his mind.
The real kind's a mystery, that he don't understand,
but the mind kind he knows like the palm of his hand.

So hup! Little dough-gy, little dough-gy get along,'
the nights on the prairie are lonely and long...

148 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:57:05am

re: #146 venjanz

Good point. The one I had was a "tactical" shotgun, and it looked cool, but I would like one that is more geared to hunting now, I suppose.

the Express has Parkerized metal, for no shine and easy care, and the wood is plain and dull.... all good tactical, but without the extra for all black, and avoids the "evil black gun" syndrome, should you ever need to use it.

changing the barrel on one is easy too.

i have a wingmaster, which i love, but since it's blued and shiny, you're always worried about the finish. they didn't make the Express when i bought it.

149 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 12:58:19am

re: #145 Fenway_Nation

I'm just counting down the days until they make a fragmentation grenade the size of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge shotgun shell....for the purpose of being fired out of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge.

it won't have a very big bursting radius, and what are you thinking about for fuzing?

150 venjanz  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:00:34am

re: #148 redc1c4

Thanks man, I'm going to look into these tomorrow.

151 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:01:55am

re: #150 venjanz

Thanks man, I'm going to look into these tomorrow.

de nada...... it's all part of the free service!

152 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:03:48am

re: #149 redc1c4

Haven't thought that far ahead....I'm sure someone else might be working on it as we speak.

153 Steffan  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:07:08am

re: #141 IslandLibertarian

I saw a couple of quotes that were interesting.

The first person asked, "How can you find pleasure in shooting from behind cover at poor creatures browsing on the edge of a wood, innocent, defenseless, and unsuspecting? It's really pure murder!"

The second person decried the "unbearable torture and suffering in animal experiments" and condemned "those who still think they can treat animals as inanimate property."

Sounds kinda like PETA, doesn't it?

Person number one, according to Jonah Goldberg in his book Liberal Fascism, is Heinrich Himmler. Person number two is Hermann Goering.

154 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:07:31am

re: #152 Fenway_Nation

Haven't thought that far ahead....I'm sure someone else might be working on it as we speak.

well, i'd go with a model like you see in the WW2/Korea movies, where the projo fit over the muzzle........

of couse, i'd rather just have an M-79 instead.

155 Unboldened  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:08:16am

re: #145 Fenway_Nation

I'm just counting down the days until they make a fragmentation grenade the size of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge shotgun shell....for the purpose of being fired out of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge.

Just a couple links for the imagination...

http://www.defensereview.com/1_31_2004/FRAG%2012.p df

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News &file=article&sid=1039 (about half way down...)

My fave weapon in the Corps is the MK-19... there's just something about making things go BOOM! that never gets old. =)

156 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:08:38am

re: #153 Steffan

Interesting quotes.
And I'm sure every PETA member is Pro-Life................

157 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:09:49am

dragging, and today's gonna be busy and warm, so i'm for the rack, by way of the fruitcup lair....... enjoy the results!

hasta y'all......

L8r!

158 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:10:50am

re: #156 IslandLibertarian

Interesting quotes.
And I'm sure every PETA member is Pro-Life................

People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

oldie, i know. %-)

159 Steffan  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:11:16am

re: #117 gmsc

Ah, got it. Rocky Horror is supposed to be a bad movie, though. It would be far worse if it was supposed to be a multi-million-dollar extravaganza.

Rocky Horror is a great party movie. The rowdy audiences of the midnight show kept a lot of theaters afloat during Carter's term of "malaise."

If you have to watch it in DVD, choose the "Audience Participation" soundtrack.

160 ShiksaGrrrl  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:11:52am

FINALLY! A columnist in Belfast that does GET IT!

Media bias ensures Hamas is always going to win PR battle

Why are terror groups so very good at PR?

Because people who don’t ask a lot of hard questions allow themselves to be taken in by them. It happened here. And it is happening now in the Middle East. We used to talk in these parts about visiting commentators being seduced by the whiff of cordite. Never mind that the ‘freedom fighters’ exuding gun smoke and hype were murdering fascists whose main victims were their own community.

They’d portrayed themselves as the underdogs — the oppressed. And that, temporarily anyway, was PR gold. It still is ?

Today, according to the broad brushstroke coverage of the crisis in Gaza, Israelis are the mindless, inhumane bully boys of the Middle East. The raids on Gaza we’re told, are purely about ‘revenge’. Not about trying to end a truly intolerable situation where hundreds of thousands of Israeli civilians have been living in fear of being killed by totally indiscriminate bombing by Qassam rockets.

What was Israel expected to do about this bombardment? (About which there have been, inevitably, no candlelit vigils in London, Paris or LA). Just sit there and take it? Wait as the rockets became ever more sophisticated, ever more powerful? They couldn’t and they didn’t.

And a world which sat back complacent while Israeli children were being killed and maimed now displays a double standard by agonising over the death and maiming of Palestinian children.

Put brutally, those pictures of children being carried bloodied and crying from the rubble are TV gold to Hamas. Don’t kid yourself they cause tears to course down the faces of the Hamas leaders. They are exactly what Hamas want. Hamas rockets were launched at Israel precisely in order to provoke such a response.

Hamas, who hide behind the skirts of women and the children they use as human shields, know full well it is impossible for the Israelis to strike the terror chiefs without inflicting civilian casualties. Civilian casualties which, it has to be said, have provoked a heart-searching in Israel not reciprocated in Arab nations when it comes to Israeli children. For, contrary to common portrayal, Israel is the real underdog in the Middle East. A small democratic nation which encourages free speech, it is surrounded on all sides by its powerful Arab enemies, most of whom refuse to even recognise its right to exist and have at regular intervals talked about wiping it entirely off the face of the earth (a threat that Israel understandably does not take lightly given past history. See also 20th century Europe. Under heading: Holocaust).

And who’s side does the so-called liberal West generally embrace?

Needless to say not the liberal Western- aligned Israel. But the fundamentalist fanatics who aside from their anti-Semitic hatred are committed to murdering homosexuals, denying women even basic rights and brutally crushing any political opposition.


the rest can be read here:
[Link: www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk...]

161 Steffan  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:15:01am

re: #156 IslandLibertarian

Interesting quotes.
And I'm sure every PETA member is Pro-Life................

As a matter of fact, yes. Just not Pro-Human-Life.

162 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:16:22am

re: #15 Sharku

Wont be long now befor the Patriot Act is rescinded or at the least re-written to protect the rights of terrorists.

Pssst.

Judge's Order Could Keep Public From Hearing Details of 9/11 Trials

The protective order, which was signed on Dec. 18 by Judge Stephen R. Henley, an Army colonel, not only protects documents and information that have been classified by intelligence agencies, it also presumptively classifies any information "referring" to a host of agencies, including the CIA, the FBI and the State Department. The order also allows the court in certain circumstances to classify information already in the public domain and presumptively classifies "any statements made by the accused."

Three of the accused, including Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, are defending themselves and, under the order, anything they say during the course of the trial could be shielded from the public.

"These rules turn the presumption of openness on its head, making what is perhaps the most important trial in American history presumptively closed to the public and the press," said Jennifer Daskal, senior counterterrorism counsel at Human Rights Watch. "If these rules applied in all cases, there would be no such thing as an open trial in America."
[snip]

The protective order states, in part, that "any document or information including but not limited to any subject referring to the Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, Department of State, National Security Council, Federal Bureau of Investigation, or intelligence agencies of any foreign government, or similar entity, or information in the possession of such agency, shall be presumed to fall within the meaning of 'classified national security information or document' unless and until the [senior security adviser] or Prosecution advises otherwise in writing."

163 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:17:33am

re: #160 ShiksaGrrrl

I regret that I have but one upding to give.....

164 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:27:17am

re: #163 Fenway_Nation

I regret that I have but one upding to give.....

Lucky for you i have an extra ding in my pocket somewhere.

165 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:32:05am

I love this country. Sometime I think Turkish people are more sheeple than the rest of the world. Regardless fo the fact they have hezbollah people and al-qaeda people here they still protest for "filistin". I like that phrase philistines. It makes more sense than "palestinians".
My students and I had a discussion about this. Generally I avoid politics in the classroom however, I had 4 students get up and walk out yesterday to attend a pro palestinian demo. It really pissed me off. So I counted them absent and gave them zero on the quiz I gave. They didnt know what to think when I asked them why they care so much about palestine but most palestinians don't care about anyone else but themselves... and couldnt answer why if the rest of the muslim world cares about muslim brotherhood nobody is going there to help them and none of their neighbors want them. The media really brainwashes people these days.

166 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:45:27am

This never fails to impress me on a couple of different levels.

The photographer seems quite taken with the third locomotive in on the head-end (a rare experimental Catepillar powered unit that never really caught on)- but we're viewing a combined 34,600 horsepower (17,000 on the head end, 17,600 mid-train). And it's never quiet with that many horses involved.

Ironically, the grimy, 30+ year old locomotives in the video are likely more 'green' in terms of fuel consumption than a Prius (hybrid cars also borrowed the concept of dynamic braking from locomotives like these).

But each time I see this, I notice something new- the last locomotive on the head end definitely isn't running (otherwise it would be closer to a combined 38,000 hp) and the fourth locomotive mid-train definitely does not have a turbocharger (another oddball locomotive, likely rebuilt by the Illinois Central in their Paducah, KY shops before being sold secondhand as a 'rent-a-wreck')....

167 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:46:18am

re: #164 Buster Bunny

Lucky for you i have an extra ding in my pocket somewhere.


Worst pick-up line ever....

168 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:49:39am

re: #167 Fenway_Nation

Worst pick-up line ever....

Naah, I think the worst pickup line ever came from my first generation japanese-american paul who used to meet girls and say shit like "What you tink of corin powwer"?
hehe. He never could grasp thate idea you cant pick up chicks with politicaş lines.

169 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:50:18am

Killed the thread with T-minus ten minutes to fruitcup! Yesss....more for me!

170 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 1:59:50am

Note to self- the next time an ID thread degenerates into lizard-on-lizard immolation, post links to locomotive videos. All involved parties shall lose interest.

/Almost time for some fruitcuppage.

171 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:00:00am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

172 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:00:33am

re: #171 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

right on the tick!

173 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:01:14am

YAHOOOOOOOOOO! I'm gonna win the Powerball TONIGHT!

174 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:02:07am

Matrix! :-)

Not too many people here to witness. ;-)

Fenway! :-)

175 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:03:06am

re: #174 littleoldlady


But it's there for posterity!

176 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:05:02am

re: #175 Fenway_Nation

But it's there for posterity prosperity!

/positive thinking... ;_)

177 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:05:08am

Hamas Rats
(with apologies to the Lovin' Spoonful)

Hamas rats
Say prayers for Jewish slaughter,
Hamas rats
Pray "death to all the Jews",
Hamas rats
Love killing Jewish babies,
Hamas rats
Kill their own babies too.

178 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:06:27am

Looks like it's just you and me, matrix.

Hence...all you can eat fruitcup. I could use a little pick-me-up after that bacon-wrapped filet mignon, lobster bisque and garlic mashed potatoes.

/not bad for a bachelor

179 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:10:14am

re: #178 Fenway_Nation

Looks like it's just you and me, matrix.

Hence...all you can eat fruitcup. I could use a little pick-me-up after that bacon-wrapped filet mignon, lobster bisque and garlic mashed potatoes.

/not bad for a bachelor

That sounds fantastic!

I went and had a huge "Chile Colorado" burrito, with rice and beans. Chips and salsa too. I'm actually stuffed, no room for fruitcup but I dinged it anyway!

180 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:12:08am

What, nobody likes the Spoonful?
/

181 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:14:19am

re: #165 baconeatingkaffir

Oh hello, bacon! I'm glad you're here because I've been doing some thinking about Turkey lately. I would like your opinion of how eager Turkey is to be admitted to the EU these days. My sense is that they would love to be wanted but feel very disrespected.

182 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:14:49am

re: #180 Spare O'Lake

Spare O'Lake! :-)

Love them!

How do you imbed a video like that?

/I musta been on vacation...

183 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:15:15am

re: #179 TheMatrix31


Shelf life's pretty good for fruitcup (and even if it isn't...hey- fruitcup pruno!).

184 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:16:48am

re: #183 Fenway_Nation

Shelf life's pretty good for fruitcup (and even if it isn't...hey- fruitcup pruno!).

Haha....I guess I can have some sour grapes. I'm watching the MLB Network's special on the 1996 World Series.

**sigh**

185 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:19:23am

re: #184 TheMatrix31

I'm thrilled that the MLB has it's own network (from what I understand, they'll be doing a couple of weekly games during the regular season as well as some minor-league games and coverage of the World Baseball Classic) but I really could do without the Yankee/Yankee stadium slobber-fest that's apparently kicking off the innaugural week.

186 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:25:42am

re: #181 wahabicorridor

It depends on wh oyou ask about the European Union. The average people here who work and try to make ends meet dont really want it. They see it as a way for the islamists to force the army to back away from secularism and also they have already witnessed the raping of the economy when the turks went into the open economy in the mid 80s. None of my students (university) have mentioned wanting to go to europe and work because they know its screwed up. Alot of Turks from Europe are coming back here to live because believe it or not the economic conditions are better.
The rich seem to see the European Union as a way to make more money. The Islamists see it as a way to get what they want. Very few people I know care about Europe except for their tourism. Even then, alot of European expats and touristas are starting to wear out their welcome becasuse of their behavior.

187 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:26:09am

Putin,
Please turn on the gas.
Putin,
Europe's freezing its ass.
So Putin,
Take the damn Ukraine,
But Putin,
Please spare Europe the pain.

188 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:26:14am

re: #185 Fenway_Nation

I'm thrilled that the MLB has it's own network (from what I understand, they'll be doing a couple of weekly games during the regular season as well as some minor-league games and coverage of the World Baseball Classic) but I really could do without the Yankee/Yankee stadium slobber-fest that's apparently kicking off the innaugural week.

The second day was all Red Sox!

189 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:28:50am

re: #182 littleoldlady

Spare O'Lake! :-)
Love them!
How do you imbed a video like that?
/I musta been on vacation...

You copy the URL of the video, and then paste it right into the comment box. You don't use the link button at all.

190 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:29:29am

re: #186 baconeatingkaffir

Ah, pretty much what I thought. Now: Russia. My understanding is that Turkey has been at least somewhat affected by the gas cut off. What are the the general feelings of Turks toward Russia?

191 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:29:58am

And for those of you not completely put to sleep by my #166, the Utah Railway took those rare, experimental CATepillar powered-locomotives, gutted them and re-engined them with engines from some SD50s....

SD50s are actually pretty common and generally manufactured by EMD of LaGrange, IL or London, Ontario; Except for the batch that Utah got their hands on.

The designation also applies to five locomotives built by EMD Australian licensee Clyde Engineering for Hamersley Iron. These were also shorter than production SD50s, and were equipped with a special double cab roof for insulation against the hot Australian desert sun. When withdrawn from Hamersley Iron service, they were sold to National Railway Equipment Company and exported to the U.S. in February 1999 and used in national lease service. They were subsequently sold to the Utah Railway in June 2001, where they remain.

So from north-western Australia to Utah in their lifetimes- that's some pretty hostile mileage these Clyde-manufactured SD50Ss have logged.

192 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:30:01am

re: #174 littleoldlady

Matrix! :-)

Not too many people here to witness. ;-)

Fenway! :-)

I've missed you...The other end of the coffee table is open for your dining and dancing pleasure...:)

193 SFGoth  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:33:09am

So I get back from a really cool goth night -- got pulled onto the dance floor for waltzing when the DJ played a song in 3/4 -- and Drudge still has the link to Bush being an undercover DemoLib up. I know there's only a few days left, but I've decided to give in to the glory of BDS. Aside from a half-assed effort to explain why we're in Irack and Afganistan, and tax cuts, Bush has succeeded in destroying the viability of Conservatism as a governing philosophy and the Republican party as the carrier of it. A lot of you make fun of The Little Bambino for his "uhhh"s on the stump, but my god, in the internet age you can't have a president as inarticulate as Bush. I looked into his soul and saw gibberish. Well, every cloud has its silver lining and from the looks of things tonight, corsets are making a comeback on women. Hey kids, this is kinda like how it was going from Nixon to Ford to Carter, but worse.

194 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:33:29am

re: #188 TheMatrix31

WHAT!? And nobody told me!?

I do know that they poached Hazel Mae from NESN.

195 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:35:00am

re: #189 Spare O'Lake

Aha! Thank you very much!

196 SFGoth  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:35:30am

I met a guy at a goth club in M:unchen (Munich, for you appeasers) last year. He told me that he spent 6 months working at the BMW plant in So. Car. a few years ago -- fucking loved it. Even drives a Dodge! Well, he also told me that he's jealous of America because in Europe, your life is essentially programmed for you. Sure, it's not a police state, but you don't have a lot of flexibility with where you want to take your life. You get your 6 weeks vacation and you shut the fuck up.

197 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:35:58am

re: #195 littleoldlady

Aha! Thank you very much!


[Video]


waving...

198 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:40:00am

re: #192 Dustyvet

Dustyvet! :-)

199 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:40:05am

re: #190 wahabicorridor

Ah, pretty much what I thought. Now: Russia. My understanding is that Turkey has been at least somewhat affected by the gas cut off. What are the the general feelings of Turks toward Russia?

The turks and russians have historically hated each other. If I recall shortly after the founding of th Turkish Republic Ataturk and the new Repç government conned the Soviets out of several billion dollars in gold. However the turkish-russia hostilities go further back than that.
These days Turkey and Russia do a great deal of trade. Alot of the textiles and machinary manufactured here goes to russia and Central Asia. There are more than enogh Russian tourists and hookers here. The gas pipeline problem seems to be slving itself. I read in one of the news papers yesterday that they are going to try to pump gas to turkey via Central Asia.

200 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:41:55am

re: #194 Fenway_Nation

WHAT!? And nobody told me!?

I do know that they poached Hazel Mae from NESN.

Yep, it's really cool. Love this channel, even though I hate your Sox. It's gonna make me sick seeing Smoltzie in a Red Sox uniform, although you guys have more of a shot for a ring so I understand his decision.

201 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:41:57am

re: #193 SFGoth

So I get back from a really cool goth night -- got pulled onto the dance floor for waltzing when the DJ played a song in 3/4 -- and Drudge still has the link to Bush being an undercover DemoLib up. I know there's only a few days left, but I've decided to give in to the glory of BDS. Aside from a half-assed effort to explain why we're in Irack and Afganistan, and tax cuts, Bush has succeeded in destroying the viability of Conservatism as a governing philosophy and the Republican party as the carrier of it. A lot of you make fun of The Little Bambino for his "uhhh"s on the stump, but my god, in the internet age you can't have a president as inarticulate as Bush. I looked into his soul and saw gibberish. Well, every cloud has its silver lining and from the looks of things tonight, corsets are making a comeback on women. Hey kids, this is kinda like how it was going from Nixon to Ford to Carter, but worse.


Why the pessimism?
The philosophy of personal integrity, hard work and individual responsibility in achieving goals did not become evil because an election was lost. It just means that the conservative movement has to find an articulate spokesman to communicate them to the nation.

202 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:44:48am

re: #200 TheMatrix31
Smoltz going to the Red Sox... good lord... the Red Sox are really going after the geriatric generation.
Who next... Phil Neikro?

203 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:45:03am

re: #195 littleoldlady

You are very welcome.

204 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:46:41am

re: #200 TheMatrix31

Yep, it's really cool. Love this channel, even though I hate your Sox. It's gonna make me sick seeing Smoltzie in a Red Sox uniform, although you guys have more of a shot for a ring so I understand his decision.

My understanding is that the Braves considered him too much of an injury risk and didn't want Smoltz back. After picking up Smoltz, Brad Penny and Rocco Baldelli, I would love to hear some of these dumbf*cks try and make the case that the Red Sox are the 'new Yankees' (especially after getting outspent by Detroit, the Mets, Yankees and Angels last year).

205 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:47:51am

re: #199 baconeatingkaffir

They conned the Russkies out of gold? BWAHAHAHAHA! I'm going to have to research that one.

I was telling my husband about the Michael Yon piece that talked about how the Lithuanians are putting the fear of god in the Taliban. He told me: Guess who scared the shit out of the Koreans and the Chinese in the Korean War? The Turks. They'd just fucking fix bayonets and impale those poor bastards.

206 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:48:25am

re: #204 Fenway_Nation

My understanding is that the Braves considered him too much of an injury risk and didn't want Smoltz back. After picking up Smoltz, Brad Penny and Rocco Baldelli, I would love to hear some of these dumbf*cks try and make the case that the Red Sox are the 'new Yankees' (especially after getting outspent by Detroit, the Mets, Yankees and Angels last year).

I don't mind teams spending money when they have it. All three pickups are extremely high-reward players if things go right.

Anyways, I'm going to go cry myself to sleep. Fuck Jim Leyritz.

207 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:49:10am

re: #196 SFGoth

Well, he also told me that he's jealous of America because in Europe, your life is essentially programmed for you. Sure, it's not a police state, but you don't have a lot of flexibility with where you want to take your life. You get your 6 weeks vacation and you shut the fuck up.

So did he stay here?

208 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:49:37am

re: #171 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!


Fruit cups give me flautulence and the runs... I have IBS, made worse during periods of emotional upset. (actually I am making this up).

Good morning, how are you?

209 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:50:20am

re: #206 TheMatrix31


Big if- Red Sox tend to overpopulate their starting pitching anyway as insurance (Bartolo Colon, anyone?).

210 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:51:02am

re: #208 shanec99

Fruit cups give me flautulence and the runs... I have IBS, made worse during periods of emotional upset. (actually I am making this up).

Good morning, how are you?

shanec99! :-)

I'm great!

/I'm making this up, too...

211 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:52:43am

re: #209 Fenway_Nation

Big if- Red Sox tend to overpopulate their starting pitching anyway as insurance (Bartolo Colon, anyone?).

Not everyone can be fat boy Colon!

212 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:52:52am

re: #208 shanec99

Fruit cups give me flautulence and the runs... I have IBS, made worse during periods of emotional upset. (actually I am making this up).

Good morning, how are you?


I was gonna say.....four years of Irritable Bowels Syndrome?

213 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:53:31am

re: #203 Spare O'Lake

You are very welcome.

You, too! :-)

/just learned NOT to use the quote function when there's an embedded video...

214 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:55:06am

re: #208 shanec99

Fruit cups give me flautulence and the runs...

Fruit cups can do that, especially if they are made in China.

215 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:56:14am

re: #211 TheMatrix31


I kinda wish Kotsay and Byrd stayed- both filed for free-agency. Kotsay was a much better infielder than anticipated.

216 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 2:57:19am

Fruit Cup!


217 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:01:30am

I'm reviewing...


218 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:02:15am

re: #210 littleoldlady
What is wrong?

I hope that whatever ails you will soon go away. Hope its not serious.

219 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:03:31am

re: #214 Spare O'Lake

Fruit cups can do that, especially if they are made in China.


Especially is you have the fruit cups with cereal in the morning and the milk from the cereal was from China.

220 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:04:42am

re: #219 shanec99

Especially is you have the fruit cups with cereal in the morning and the milk from the cereal was from China.

To much curry in the corn flakes again?...:)

221 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:05:52am

Whoops....maybe I spoke too soon re: Mark Kotsay

222 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:06:26am

re: #220 Dustyvet

To much curry in the corn flakes again?...:)


No... prefer my curry on chicken, with shrimps or with goat... curry on cornflakes... a pox on you. You reprobate.

223 Tigger2005  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:10:28am

This is what I dread ... living in a world where I am forced to tell lies.

I think I'd drink hemlock first.

224 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:11:31am

re: #222 shanec99

No... prefer my curry on chicken, with shrimps or with goat... curry on cornflakes... a pox on you. You reprobate.

Blame Peter Sellers, he started it... see first few moments of video...:)


225 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:11:48am

re: #223 Tigger2005

Hemlock? Is that a new energy drink?

226 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:12:08am

re: #223 Tigger2005

This is what I dread ... living in a world where I am forced to tell lies.

I think I'd drink hemlock first.


Well I would just pursue a career in Journalism or Law... you can be respectable there, especially if you can fabricate a good story to fit a theory.

227 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:12:42am

re: #224 Dustyvet

Blame Peter Sellers, he started it... see first few moments of video...:)

Youtube Video


Cant watch video... limited band width

228 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:14:41am

re: #227 shanec99

Cant watch video... limited band width

Oh well, Sellers uses the line To much curry on my corn flakes this morning...while examining Bob Hope.

229 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:14:49am

re: #225 Fenway_Nation

Hemlock? Is that a new energy drink?


Well if we could convince the suicide bombers of this... then you might be on to something.
It could be an ironic case of drinking Hemlock and saving lives.

230 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:15:07am

re: #60 spirochete
Please don't look in my closet I swear there aren't any captrured terrorists being tortured. There are just a few closet gnomes practicing on some store mannakins for when their gittmo applications get approved.

231 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:16:40am

re: #230 Rustler

Please don't look in my closet I swear there aren't any captrured terrorists being tortured. There are just a few closet gnomes practicing on some store mannakins for when their gittmo applications get approved.

Mind your water bill...:) They can get silly in water boarding training...

232 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:17:14am

re: #205 wahabicorridor

They conned the Russkies out of gold? BWAHAHAHAHA! I'm going to have to research that one.

I was telling my husband about the Michael Yon piece that talked about how the Lithuanians are putting the fear of god in the Taliban. He told me: Guess who scared the shit out of the Koreans and the Chinese in the Korean War? The Turks. They'd just fucking fix bayonets and impale those poor bastards.

Back when I was living in my wife's hometown, I used to go to a particjlar bakkal (corner store) to buy my beer. the owner was a korean war vet. He was missing half of his ring finger on his left hand. I asked him what happened and he told me that the Chinese overran their position one night and he played dead to escape and during that time some chinamen cut the top of his finger off to get his gold ring. Said if it hadnt been so cold he would have bled to death. I asked his nephew because I thought it was b.s. turkish machoness but his nephew backed it up.
I think the North Koreans captured maybe 20 turks and they tried to use an armenian communist as a translator but he somehow got strangled. It really is an interesting subject how the Korean War influenced the Turkish military and Turkey as a whole.

233 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:17:21am

re: #230 Rustler

Please don't look in my closet I swear there aren't any captrured terrorists being tortured. There are just a few closet gnomes practicing on some store mannakins for when their gittmo applications get approved.


Darn... why dont you just buy them a few suicide belts and tell them to practice using them, so that they will be sure to use them properly when the opportunity presents itself?

234 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:22:01am

re: #232 baconeatingkaffir
Pulled into Antalya, Turkey in the 90s, they refer to it as the Turkish Riviera. Good lord... a Muslim country where the girls hang out on the beach in Bikinis... the girls we breathtakingly beautiful.

The Turkish Military don't mess around regarding doing anything that threatens Ataturk's secular legacy... and please don't do anything that can be interpreted as disrespectful to his memory.

235 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:22:03am

re: #233 shanec99

Darn... why dont you just buy them a few suicide belts and tell them to practice using them, so that they will be sure to use them properly when the opportunity presents itself?

Could those infamous Jinns from the Koran and Hadith actually be closet gnomes?

236 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:22:19am

Does your Dog Bite?


237 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:24:51am

re: #234 shanec99

Pulled into Antalya, Turkey in the 90s, they refer to it as the Turkish Riviera. Good lord... a Muslim country where the girls hang out on the beach in Bikinis... the girls we breathtakingly beautiful.

The Turkish Military don't mess around regarding doing anything that threatens Ataturk's secular legacy... and please don't do anything that can be interpreted as disrespectful to his memory.

Yeah. I have been here for 10 years now. Actually12 if you count my time here when I was in the military. Ataturk is quite the man. I think I am a secret kemalist. Ithink he realized that only rabid nationalism could replace Islamism.

238 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:24:55am

re: #231 Dustyvet
They have access to a rain barrel and all the water is saved for subsequent training.

239 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:25:27am

re: #235 baconeatingkaffir

Could those infamous Jinns from the Koran and Hadith actually be closet gnomes?


If the Jihns from the Koran and Hadith were actually closet gnomes... then Larry Hagman would have had nightmares of Jeannie.

240 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:26:06am

re: #233 shanec99
Because the gnomes are having a lot of fun with the mannekins and they are really lifelike. Plus keeping the gnomes occupied means they stop hiding my things.

241 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:27:08am

re: #232 baconeatingkaffir

they tried to use an armenian communist as a translator but he somehow got strangled.

I hate it when that happens.

Do you know of any English-language books on Turkish history/culture I could get my hands on? I'm older than dirt and I've meet only one Turk in my entire life. I find these people fascinating.

242 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:27:11am

Yeah but what about the sock gnomes and writing utensil gnomes?

243 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:27:36am

re: #237 baconeatingkaffir

Yeah. I have been here for 10 years now. Actually12 if you count my time here when I was in the military. Ataturk is quite the man. I think I am a secret kemalist. Ithink he realized that only rabid nationalism could replace Islamism.

He may be right... some Islamists want to change his ideals... regarding Hijab etc. I don't think the Turkish military is gonna put up with it though.

244 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:29:07am

re: #238 Rustler

They have access to a rain barrel and all the water is saved for subsequent training.

Oh cools, great planning in your training program...:) My lads just flooded out the apartment below me, and the one under that one.

245 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:29:33am

re: #241 wahabicorridor

I hate it when that happens.

Do you know of any English-language books on Turkish history/culture I could get my hands on? I'm older than dirt and I've meet only one Turk in my entire life. I find these people fascinating.

Lord Kinross di quite good work on books about Ataturk and the Ottomans. Andre Mangold most recently wrote a biography of Ataturk. I'll ask at my university what they're using in te history department. Click on the email and drop me a line

246 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:30:49am
The Turkish Military don't mess around regarding doing anything that threatens Ataturk's secular legacy...

Track record of killing commies- check.
Serves as 'circut-breaker' for democratic government against sharia creep- check.
NATO member- check.

I think the lefties have found a new 'bad guy' military to demonize whenever they get bored with slandering the U.S. Military or IDF.

/Altho' there is that whole 'Invasion of Cyprus' thing....

247 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:30:50am

re: #242 baconeatingkaffir

Yeah but what about the sock gnomes and writing utensil gnomes?


I hate sock gnomes... a sock puppet is a sock gnome with cyber skills.

Sock gnomes eveolved from writing utensil gnomes... but they were ineffective... and eventually died out and were replaced by sock gnomes.

248 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:33:02am

re: #234 shanec99

the girls we breathtakingly beautiful.

Our adopted soldier is at Camp Bucca, Iraq. I sent him Michael Yon's story on the Lithuanians. Turns out there are Lithuanians at Camp Bucca and some of them are women. He swears they are the most beautiful females he's ever laid eyes on.

249 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:33:16am

re: #240 Rustler

Because the gnomes are having a lot of fun with the mannekins and they are really lifelike. Plus keeping the gnomes occupied means they stop hiding my things.


I recommend giving them suicide belts and locking them in a ballistically reinforced concrete structure... pretty soon they will ... you know... and no one worthwhile will be hurt...

250 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:34:43am

re: #249 shanec99
But I like my closet gnomes, they are a little upset that we haven't gotten a shipment on mannekins recently.

251 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:34:44am

re: #248 wahabicorridor

Our adopted soldier is at Camp Bucca, Iraq. I sent him Michael Yon's story on the Lithuanians. Turns out there are Lithuanians at Camp Bucca and some of them are women. He swears they are the most beautiful females he's ever laid eyes on.


Where is Camp Bucca?... I never got there when I was in Iraq... but I was mostly in the Baghdad area... I was attached to a MiTT out of the RSU in Taji.

252 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:35:18am

re: #250 Rustler
And I'd never give the Mannekins a suicide belt that just takes away from the gnomes fun.

253 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:37:44am

re: #250 Rustler
Gnomes remind me of bad (spoiled) kids with ugly, rich parents.

254 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:38:33am

Another nice thing about Closet Gnomes is there rabid fear of Cameras. You won't find a CG taking or in a compromising picture.

255 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:39:33am

re: #253 shanec99
Mine are vicious twisted things adapt at wringing confessions outta Mannekins without leaving telltale marks.

256 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:39:38am

You should google the Ergenekon affair. The Islamist government here is trying to play with the military. Its like they are trying to consoldiate power. The last Commander of the Turkish armed forces was pretty wimpy towards them. Rumor had it that he and his wife were paid off. The new guy is pretty hardcore. I like the way he doesnt smile when he meest with them. The AKP government is being taken to task over 6 million non existant people from nonexistant streets who "voted" for them.
The whole headscarf thing was firt overturned by the AKP government but then the supreme court rejected it. Still the scarfies wear the damn thing to my classes. These peole are such geniuses. They wanted to ban alcohol in tourist areas. The only good thing they've done is make it difficult or impossible for foreigners without turkish residency to buy property here. I get bored of drunk europeans

257 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:41:02am

re: #252 Rustler
Gnomes eventually evolve into beings that pray five times a day, set fires to cars in Paris, and engage in Jihad all the while hoping to get to Paradise so they can have 72 virgins.
I don't trust them, you had better be careful that they dont turn on you like the Gremlins.

258 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:41:51am

re: #257 shanec99

Gnomes eventually evolve into beings that pray five times a day, set fires to cars in Paris, and engage in Jihad all the while hoping to get to Paradise so they can have 72 virgins.
I don't trust them, you had better be careful that they dont turn on you like the Gremlins.

Like dont feed them pork after midnight?

259 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:46:29am

re: #256 baconeatingkaffir

You should google the Ergenekon affair. The Islamist government here is trying to play with the military. Its like they are trying to consoldiate power. The last Commander of the Turkish armed forces was pretty wimpy towards them. Rumor had it that he and his wife were paid off. The new guy is pretty hardcore. I like the way he doesnt smile when he meest with them. The AKP government is being taken to task over 6 million non existant people from nonexistant streets who "voted" for them.
The whole headscarf thing was firt overturned by the AKP government but then the supreme court rejected it. Still the scarfies wear the damn thing to my classes. These peole are such geniuses. They wanted to ban alcohol in tourist areas. The only good thing they've done is make it difficult or impossible for foreigners without turkish residency to buy property here. I get bored of drunk europeans


I thought they wanted to join the EU, wasn't the EU supposed to allow people from all over the Union freedom of movement and the ability to live wherever they chose?
The Islamists are gonna get a rude awakening if they join the EU about a lot of things. The French are very influential in the EU... look at their position regarding the Hijab.
I cant imagine that an Italian or French man will be denied his wine, a German his beer or a Greek his Ouzo. Turkey's Islamic politicians might be biting off more than they care to swallow.

260 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:46:45am

I tried Googling Yon's article about the Lithuanian troops, but instead most of the hits that came up were for a subsequent letter of apology at the Lithuanians who took exception to the phrase 'Weaponized verson of Borat'.

Does anyone have a more direct link?

261 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:47:12am

re: #245 baconeatingkaffir

Thank you sir- check yer mail.

262 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:48:24am

re: #258 baconeatingkaffir

Like dont feed them pork after midnight?


Feediing them pork prevents them from evolving to Jihadist... but they require so much of it... that they would drive of the price of sausages, ham and bacon.

263 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:49:20am

hmm....what's news this morning

264 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:50:17am

re: #257 shanec99
I'd be more worried if more of em evolved like the little sadistic clown colored gnome. He has more evil concentrated in a little 4 inch body than every movie monster since teh 20's combined. He isn't allowed to play with all his friends we have him locked in a little pit and only allow him to watch not participate.

265 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:50:56am

Gnomes and Jinns (Jeanies to Westerners) are eveolved from a similar ancestor.
See I even got evolution included in this thread. Charles should thank me.

266 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:51:39am

re: #256 baconeatingkaffir

I like the way he doesnt smile when he meest with them.

I hope he does smile at some point when he's meeting with them. That probably means he knows something they don't

The AKP government is being taken to task over 6 million non existant people from nonexistant streets who "voted" for them.

I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for that. Maybe they're not non-existant.....just dead. You know...like in Chicago?

267 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:52:11am

re: #265 shanec99
Djinns/Djanni/Genie all wish they could compete with Closet Gnomes.

268 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:52:24am

re: #251 shanec99

Where is Camp Bucca?... I never got there when I was in Iraq... but I was mostly in the Baghdad area... I was attached to a MiTT out of the RSU in Taji.

On the Kuwaiti border. Largest detainee camp - about 18,000 detainees there now. The high-value detainees are at Camp Cropper.

I asked our soldier how the hell do you do laundry for 18,000 people in the middle of the desert.

Turns out you don't. You burn the soiled laundry and hand out clean stuff.

CHA CHING!

269 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:53:11am

re: #267 Rustler

or Smurfs for the level of irritation they create

270 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:53:40am

re: #264 Rustler
Careful with that one now... I havn't seen that one before, but I heard of his type... that type evolves into Imans who make speeches comparing Western women to fresh meat.
A vile and nasty creature.

271 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:53:46am

re: #268 wahabicorridor
Its actually cheaper than shipping and treating that much water that far from any major source. Plus it helps prevent infestations from lice and such.

272 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:55:02am

re: #270 shanec99
I swear i want to name him violator after the clown in Spawn but that would be downplaying his sheer evilness and viciousness so much as to be like calling Shaq Mini Me.

273 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:55:36am

re: #259 shanec99

Yes but the EU does have a resaon for not admitting them. If they were to be admitted they'ds have the second largest population in Europe hence the second largest vote in the EU next to fwance.
Only the religious nuts want the eu because of its "freedom of religion" . The EU has already started to affect turkey with its open borders. Turkey is now the stopover point for illegals on the way to the "promised land".

274 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:55:43am

re: #260 Fenway_Nation

I tried Googling Yon's article about the Lithuanian troops, but instead most of the hits that came up were for a subsequent letter of apology at the Lithuanians who took exception to the phrase 'Weaponized verson of Borat'.

Does anyone have a more direct link?

It was carried on the Pajamas Media site.

275 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:56:39am

re: #268 wahabicorridor
OK so its down close to Basra... when I was over there there were mostly Brits in that area.
Interesting story... we had Philipinos who worked for a contractor on base (I dont rightly recall if it was KBR) wash our clothing, they ran the laudry points. Never got any new stuff.

276 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:58:28am

re: #275 shanec99
It's the 18k detainees whose clothing gets burned regularly not the troops.

277 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:58:36am

re: #267 Rustler

Djinns/Djanni/Genie all wish they could compete with Closet Gnomes.

They are evolved from them I tell you, lying scoundrels, thieving bastards... sneaky and utterly without scruples.

278 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:58:52am

re: #275 shanec99

My brother is in the 82nd airborne and currently doing an arabic course as part of his psyops training. He says some of the instructors are a laugh. Expecially when the "family serice organization" prepares breakfast in the morning and they cook bacon breakfast.

279 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:59:00am

re: #276 Rustler
Oh, OK

280 desdichado  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:59:22am

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth


That Monkey3 video was pretty awesome. Thanks.

281 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 3:59:47am

still no miguel.....:(

282 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:01:16am

re: #279 shanec99
Yeah replacing uniforms regularly would be hell but the 18000 jumpsuits for laundry would suck having to keep track of the 5000 muhammods, 3500 mamouds, and such.

283 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:01:44am

re: #273 baconeatingkaffir
It is gonna be interesting... Some Germans have expressed concerns about continued Turkish immigration into the EU, so have some of the Dutch politicians.
I don't know enough to say whether it is good or bad... but if it happens there will be CHANGE.

284 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:01:45am

re: #271 Rustler

Its actually cheaper than shipping and treating that much water that far from any major source. Plus it helps prevent infestations from lice and such.

Our soldier is a supply/logistics guy. The amount of bottled water shipped in astonishes him. He sees the numbers on the contracts with KBR - thought they are all crooks. I did some checking. It's not that KBR et. al. are making a killing (altho I'm sure their profits are not paltry) - they have to pay serious bribes apparently

285 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:03:51am

re: #278 baconeatingkaffir
I can well imagine... it used to be fun watching the Sri Lankans and Pakistanis when a Soldier or Sailor asked for a ham omlette in the DFAC (chow hall). They would make it though... without complaining.

286 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:04:52am

re: #282 Rustler

Yeah replacing uniforms regularly would be hell but the 18000 jumpsuits for laundry would suck having to keep track of the 5000 muhammods, 3500 mamouds, and such.


Can you imagine... good grief... would take weeks to sort the damned things.

287 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:06:04am

running a laundrette there would be a pain

288 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:06:17am

re: #283 shanec99

It is gonna be interesting... Some Germans have expressed concerns about continued Turkish immigration into the EU, so have some of the Dutch politicians.
I don't know enough to say whether it is good or bad... but if it happens there will be CHANGE.

It would be bad - for both Turkey and the EU. The EU would simply be overwhelmed and Turkey would absolutely hate having to kiss Brussel's ass. Whatever enthusiasm Turkey may have had for joining the EU 5 years ago, it's seriously on the wane now. Which I think is a good thing.

But then I hate the EU

289 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:07:45am

re: #284 wahabicorridor
Used to annoy me to see the Iraqis use the bottled water to wash their feet before prayer time, when there were faucets with running water in the buildings around.
Nother thing that used to annoy me was that they would stand on the toilet seats to deficate... and break the seats.
Rile me up something fierce... but I kept my mouth shut. Couldn't let my feelings be known and be an effective advisor.

290 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:08:11am

re: #287 Jewels (AKA Julian)

running a laundrette there would be a pain

Oh, KBR does manage laundry facilities there - but it's for the troops. There is a river nearby and water from there is filtered for the laundry apparently.

291 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:08:12am

re: #283 shanec99

It is gonna be interesting... Some Germans have expressed concerns about continued Turkish immigration into the EU, so have some of the Dutch politicians.
I don't know enough to say whether it is good or bad... but if it happens there will be CHANGE.

My brother and sister in law are still in Germany. My father in law went over in 1967 whe n most of the immigrants were there for economic reasons rather than political reasons like now. Ironically the Turkish government warned Europe back in the mid 80s about the kind of people that they were accepting but they chose to ignore it.

292 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:10:10am

re: #286 shanec99

Can you imagine... good grief... would take weeks to sort the damned things.

Just think now with he new Army Combat Uniforms, the Airman Battle Uniform, and the Marpat stuff the Marines use. Thats gotta be a logistical nightmare .

293 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:11:19am

Forgive my ignorance....KBR? a contractor I presume

294 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:12:33am

re: #291 baconeatingkaffir

My brother and sister in law are still in Germany. My father in law went over in 1967 whe n most of the immigrants were there for economic reasons rather than political reasons like now. Ironically the Turkish government warned Europe back in the mid 80s about the kind of people that they were accepting but they chose to ignore it.


The Germans puzzle me, they always seemed polite, diciplined and tolerant in person... but you get the feeling that if they get riled up they can wreak some havoc.
I just hope that the unhappiness with Turkish immigrants does not become something that the world regrets down the road.

295 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:12:57am

re: #293 Jewels (AKA Julian) yep should be the right contractor.

296 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:13:36am

re: #292 baconeatingkaffir

Just think now with he new Army Combat Uniforms, the Airman Battle Uniform, and the Marpat stuff the Marines use. Thats gotta be a logistical nightmare .


Add to that the new Navy Comoflague uniform and the DCUs that the Navy now wears in the theatre. It's gonna get uglee.

297 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:14:03am

re: #293 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Forgive my ignorance....KBR? a contractor I presume

Yes, subsidiary of Halliburton, I believe.

298 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:14:29am

re: #296 shanec99
Yeah I much perfered the semi standard BDU.

299 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:14:42am

re: #293 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Forgive my ignorance....KBR? a contractor I presume


KBR: Kellolg, Brown and Ruth... a subsidiary of Haliburton I think.

300 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:15:45am

re: #294 shanec99

The Germans puzzle me, they always seemed polite, diciplined and tolerant in person... but you get the feeling that if they get riled up they can wreak some havoc.
I just hope that the unhappiness with Turkish immigrants does not become something that the world regrets down the road.

Yes. The funny thing is that Germans are immigrating like crazy. Awehile back the German tvstation RTL did a series about a German family who immigrated from Hamburg to Texas. I've met a few Germans here who teah German or work in the one of the German highschools here

301 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:16:06am

re: #298 Rustler

Yeah I much perfered the semi standard BDU.


Green in the desert.... naah.. you would stick out like a sore thumb... easy target against a brown background.

302 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:16:06am

re: #297 wahabicorridor
Halliburton is Primarily involved with Oil related Govt contract work.

303 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:16:33am

interesting.

and now for something completely different

Battlefield Ham

304 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:16:48am

re: #298 Rustler

Yeah I much perfered the semi standard BDU.

Summerweights were awesome. I think our group who went to brightstar n 93 were some of the first to get the now outphased DCUs

305 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:16:58am

re: #299 shanec99
Not A subsidiary anymore.

306 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:17:11am

re: #294 shanec99

I just hope that the unhappiness with Turkish immigrants does not become something that the world regrets down the road.

I wouldn't worry about the Germans trying to project force abroad. They don't have the resources and those they do have are not well-led. Besides, I think their constitution forbids any offensive military action.

Domestically - well, EU laws pretty well protect any immigrant, legal or not - and if there is anything the Germans love, it's following the rules.

307 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:18:27am
Halliburton announced on April 5, 2007 that it had finally broken ties with KBR, which has been its contracting, engineering and construction unit as a part of the company for 44 years.[3] The move was prefaced by a statement registered with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission on April 15, 2006 stating that Halliburton planned to sell up to 20 percent of its KBR stock on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE). On November 16, 2006, KBR shares were offered for the public in an Initial Public Offering with shares priced at $17. The shares closed on the first day up more than 22 percent to $20.75 a share.[4]

from WIKI

308 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:18:29am

My brother in law bought me over a set of German desertflecktarn. Pretty comfortable. I think they're treated with some sort of anti mosquito chemicals.

309 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:18:54am

re: #300 baconeatingkaffir
How do they feel about living in Turkey? Met some German military types in Italy when I was there... and a few when I was up in Djibouti.

Seemed like pretty good folks. Hard, rock hard...

310 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:19:07am

re: #304 baconeatingkaffir

I loved my time in Sinai as part of Brightstar.

311 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:20:29am

re: #301 shanec99
DCU coloration on the BDU although I much perfered solid khaki as it aquired proper coloration from the environment fast.

312 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:20:58am

re: #309 shanec99
when you were up in whose booty?

313 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:22:03am

re: #308 baconeatingkaffir

My brother in law bought me over a set of German desertflecktarn. Pretty comfortable. I think they're treated with some sort of anti mosquito chemicals.

Everything we take over gets treated against mosquitoes... and in some areas you take either a daily or weekly anti-malarial tablet.
Gives you stomach upset, but you take them any way.

314 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:23:33am

re: #312 Rustler

when you were up in whose booty?


Dude... that is not my kind of thing... OK...
When I say rock hard... I mean they were troops that you could be confident would not become like jelly if things go hot.
Rock solid.

315 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:23:47am

re: #313 shanec99

better than the alternatice neh?

316 Luigi  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:25:14am

Baltimore's Mayor Sheila Dixon is indicted. According to an AP story in the Boston Globe and even according to her hometown newspaper the Baltimore Sun she is not a member of any particular political party.

In fact, the Baltimore Sun runs down a who's who of everyone involved. None of them are members of any particular political party.

317 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:25:14am

alternative....damn...need my morning caffine

318 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:26:13am

The Fat Beagle is pestering me to play -

later................

319 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:26:13am

re: #307 Rustler

from WIKI


Thanks, didn't know that... I remember how the Liberals used to cuss about Haliburton and KBR profiting from the Iraq war... they did good work over there... and earned every penny they were paid.

320 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:26:54am

re: #315 Jewels (AKA Julian)

better than the alternatice neh?


Yes... absolutely.

321 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:27:16am

re: #314 shanec99
Sorry sounded like you were up in jew booty(djibouti).

322 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:28:36am

re: #319 shanec99
Yeah I don't fault them for making some money while they were out there risking life and limb to support the troops. They earned what they got.

323 jcbunga  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:31:53am

It's early, but this may be the feel-good story of the day:

5 Somali Pirates Drown With Share of $3M Ransom
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

324 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:32:03am

re: #321 Rustler

Sorry sounded like you were up in jew booty(djibouti).


Look if you have something against homosexuals or Jews... or Jewish homosexuals that is your thing... Leave me out of it.

I dont have anything against homosexuals, what they do is their thing, not mine. If you want to engage in anti-semitism or homophobia... well I am not your partner in such an endeavor. Try elsewhere.

325 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:34:19am

re: #323 jcbunga
Hope they enjoy the money.

326 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:37:11am

CNN is just haveinga real fit aren't they over this Joe the Plumber thing

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

327 kcladderman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:41:14am

re: #316 Luigi

Baltimore's Mayor Sheila Dixon is indicted. According to an AP story in the Boston Globe and even according to her hometown newspaper the Baltimore Sun she is not a member of any particular political party.

In fact, the Baltimore Sun runs down a who's who of everyone involved. None of them are members of any particular political party.

Kansas City is the same way members of the city council and the mayor do not run as a party member. Though they are not officially Dem or Republican it is pretty easy to tell which way they lean.

328 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:42:46am

re: #326 Jewels (AKA Julian)

CNN is just haveinga real fit aren't they over this Joe the Plumber thing

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

they deserve it, the Liberals interfered with this man's private life and revealed confidential information... and CNN did nothing to condemn this behavior. A pox on them.

329 jcbunga  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:43:21am

re: #325 shanec99

Hope they enjoy the money.

I wonder...will the 72 virgins still want them when they show up sopping wet and penniless...or can they take it with them?

330 Luigi  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:44:28am

re: #326 Jewels (AKA Julian)

CNN is just haveing a real fit aren't they over this Joe the Plumber thing

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

It takes a lot of guts for Joe to take that job and stick his neck out again. Career wise, he would have been better off just fading back into obscurity. In fact, right from the first he showed a preference to act from principle rather then expediency. It's one thing when a politician or a celebrity seeks publicity. That only strengthens them. But for a working person it only makes them less likely to maintain employment.

I'll be the first to print this bumper sticker...


JOE FOR CONGRESS
FLUSH THE LIBERALS!
331 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:45:12am

re: #328 shanec99

oh indeed. The sounds of thier wailing is comforting to me

332 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:46:04am

re: #329 jcbunga

I wonder...will the 72 virgins still want them when they show up sopping wet and penniless...or can they take it with them?


Heh, heh, heh... seems the Somalis hijacked a Iranian cargo ship loaded with wheat...
Wonder what the Dinner Jacketed one and the bearded Ayatollah will say about that?

333 jcbunga  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:47:56am

re: #332 shanec99

oops

334 gregg  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:48:10am

Glenn Reynolds posted comments he has read regarding the movie Gran Torino. The one I found interesting is this, “It says something about America that the toughest guy in the movies is 78 years old.”

335 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:50:47am

re: #331 Jewels (AKA Julian)
Heh heh heh, damned lunatics... they are nasty bastards... they will violate any principle to get power.
They claim to believe in journalistic integrity, protecting confidential sources when criminals are providing them information. But when the criminal behavior threatens the political aspiration of a person they admire, they become silent.
The hypocrisy stinks to high heaven. I wish them nothing but torment.

336 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:52:53am

re: #333 jcbunga

oops


Suckers probably pyssed off right now.
No wheat in Iran... how are they gonna make the shwarmas and pastry?

337 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:55:51am

re: #327 kcladderman

Kansas City is the same way members of the city council and the mayor do not run as a party member. Though they are not officially Dem or Republican it is pretty easy to tell which way they lean.


That is BULL Sh...
Sheila Dixon is a Democrat.
If the Baltimore Sun wants to pretend that she isn't they are liars. She has a long history as a Democratic operative.

338 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:56:26am

re: #223 Tigger2005

This is what I dread ... living in a world where I am forced to tell lies.

Such is a socialist "workers paradise," however.

I await the pocket size edition of The Audacity of Hope that we'll all have to carry around with us.

339 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:57:26am

re: #332 shanec99

Heh, heh, heh... seems the Somalis hijacked a Iranian cargo ship loaded with wheat...
Wonder what the Dinner Jacketed one and the bearded Ayatollah will say about that?


You can't make (yellow)cake without wheat.

340 smokefire  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 4:58:43am

re: #334 gregg

Glenn Reynolds posted comments he has read regarding the movie Gran Torino. The one I found interesting is this, “It says something about America that the toughest guy in the movies is 78 years old.”

................still the best Clint movie of all time.

341 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:00:42am

Here is Wiki about Dixon... who is the Sun trying to fool. She has been an active Democratic politician since the 80s. She ran as a Democrat in the primaries, she was an outspoken Obama supporter. The MSM... no wonder they are loosing readers, this is an outright lie, that she is unaffiliated with any parties.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

342 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:01:33am

re: #339 Bloodnok
Heh heh heh

343 LittleRed1  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:05:47am

Goood Morning lizard kind! (or kind lizards). Here in balmy Texas its 22 degrees with a windchill of 10 F.

344 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:07:24am

re: #286 shanec99

Can you imagine... good grief... would take weeks to sort the damned things.

The simple solution would be to do what they did at Ellis Island. Give 'em each a new name.

"Damn, I don't know how to pronounce that. You're John Smallberries."

345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:09:24am

re: #334 gregg

Saw Gran Torino last night. Loved it 4.5 out of 5.

346 kcladderman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:09:42am

re: #337 shanec99

That is BULL Sh...
Sheila Dixon is a Democrat.
If the Baltimore Sun wants to pretend that she isn't they are liars. She has a long history as a Democratic operative.

Oh I agree. You are what you are I don't know how they run in Baltimore I was just telling you what they do in KC.

347 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:12:08am

re: #344 Dar ul Harb

The simple solution would be to do what they did at Ellis Island. Give 'em each a new name.

"Damn, I don't know how to pronounce that. You're John Smallberries."


You heard how Sam Ting (chinese immigrant to San Fran) got his name huh... The man in line before him said his name Hwang Gu Chen... well the immigration officer had a hard time, pronouncing and writing the name... so Hwang came along... and tried to say his name was the same thing as the man before him... hence Sam Ting. He kept it.

348 LittleRed1  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:12:19am

re: #294 shanec99

My grandfather (WWI ETO vet, paratrooper) says that one or two Germans are great people and wonderful as friends and neighbors, but once you get ten or twenty together they go a little crazy. I went to school over there and didn't see it, but that may have been because the World Cup was going on and absolutely everyone was going nuts.

349 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:13:51am

re: #346 kcladderman
She even ran as a Democrat in the Primaries leading up to the general election.
Good grief. The staff at the Sun should be ashamed of themselves.

350 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:16:08am

re: #349 shanec99 No worries when they lose readers over the outright lies they print Obama will bail em out.

351 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:17:11am

re: #348 LittleRed1

My grandfather (WWI ETO vet, paratrooper) says that one or two Germans are great people and wonderful as friends and neighbors, but once you get ten or twenty together they go a little crazy. I went to school over there and didn't see it, but that may have been because the World Cup was going on and absolutely everyone was going nuts.


Soccer has that effect on people all over the world, not just Germans. Visit Italy, Brazil, Argentina, France or England during the World Cup.

352 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:17:31am

USS George H. W. Bush getting commisioned today.

353 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:18:17am

re: #351 shanec99
In some areas here football has the same Effect on Americans.

354 akak  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:19:15am
Livni: We need more time
Foreign minister speaks with Washington Post, says Israel will not back down from Gaza offensive until operational objectives are met. 'We ask the international community to give us some understanding and time'

Cool, they are gonna eradicate Gaza terrorism by the inauguration.

/good timing!

355 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:20:09am

re: #352 Rustler

USS George H. W. Bush getting commisioned today.

Future Headline: "USS George H.W. Bush Suffers Sudden Fuel Spill In Sea Of Japan..."

/

356 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:21:38am

re: #355 Bloodnok
HAHA in the presence of the flagship of its whaling community much to the dismay of the envirowhacko's who trail it constantly.

357 LittleRed1  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:22:25am

I used to watch the World Cup finals on Univision. Both the play and the commentary were entertaining. "Goooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllll!"
And I grew up in the South, where there are three religious denominations:
Methodist, Baptist, and High School Football.

358 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:24:34am

re: #357 LittleRed1
Yeah I think the last American Football riot occured at either a Bama or East texas high school.

359 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:24:39am

re: #357 LittleRed1

I used to watch the World Cup finals on Univision. Both the play and the commentary were entertaining. "Goooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllll!"
And I grew up in the South, where there are three religious denominations:
Methodist, Baptist, and High School Football.

I'm watching Aston Villa v. West Bromwich Albion (Barclays Premier League, UK) as we speak.

360 akak  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:26:27am

re: #359 Bloodnok

I'm watching Aston Villa v. West Bromwich Albion (Barclays Premier League, UK) as we speak.

Go you Reds,
Go Liverpool! YNWA

361 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:27:11am

re: #354 akak

Cool, they are gonna eradicate Gaza terrorism by the inauguration.

/good timing!


Patience people patience, seems like the a Lebanese terror group wants some too... Hezbollah is telling the world: "We didn't do it!"
Guess they learned their lesson from 06.
But Israel is being attacked from all sides, on the battle field and in the media.
[Link: www.presstv.com...]

362 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:27:54am

re: #360 akak

Go you Reds,
Go Liverpool! YNWA

This could be the Reds year. They look goooood.

363 akak  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:29:39am

re: #362 Bloodnok

This could be the Reds year. They look goooood.


If they can keep Torres out of the infirmery.

/and get'em a haircut too

364 Rune  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:29:44am

Well I just came home from a pro-Israel demonstration in Copenhagen, Denmark. A respectable turnout. Some speeches and songs, incl. the Danish national hymn & some Jewish ones I don’t know since I’m not Jewish - but they were very nice, if a bit sad sounding. Everything took place peacefully. And no burning cars. No burning Palestinian flags. No calls for death over anybody.

365 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:30:37am

re: #363 akak

If they can keep Torres out of the infirmery.

/and get'em a haircut too

And get some quality in return for Keane.

366 akak  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:31:23am

infirmary? spelling gets worse with age?

367 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:31:26am

re: #361 shanec99
///The way things are gonna end up going Israel's current war will keep spreading til it miraculously ends with Israel surrounded by 40 miles of smoking rubble uninhabited by anything but the scavengers cleaning up.

368 akak  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:32:37am

re: #365 Bloodnok

agreed, nice to have him when Fernando is out though

369 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:32:48am

re: #364 Rune
The Danes better be carefull, the "car burning youts" will boycott their cookies again, it could ruin the economy.

370 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:32:51am

re: #364 Rune
Most of the injuries at Pro Israel rallies occur after the pro muslim rally shows up to interfer physically.

371 Luigi  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:40:39am

From April 22, 2008 -- about a thousand rockets ago..

Carter: Hamas Ready To Live Beside Israel

JERUSALEM, April 21 -- The armed Islamist movement Hamas is prepared to accept Israel as a neighbor if the Palestinian people approve the terms for peace, former president Jimmy Carter and the group's exiled leadership said Monday following a visit to the region that included seven hours of negotiations.

Carter, the most prominent Westerner to formally talk with the organization, said he secured that agreement even as Hamas rejected his proposal for a unilateral, month-long cease-fire. Hamas, which has vowed to destroy Israel, also declined to meet with an Israeli deputy prime minister who has expressed interest in discussing the fate of a captured Israeli soldier.

But Carter, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, said his trip had shown the value of negotiating with Hamas leaders, something Israel and the United States have refused to do.

372 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:42:52am
But Carter, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, said his trip had shown the value of negotiating with Hamas leaders, something Israel and the United States have refused to do.

Umm why should Israel talk to someone whose express purpose is Israel's eradication. And why should the US talk to anyone whose express purpose for being is the eradication of one of our allies.

373 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:45:21am

I hope Charles and Roger Simon take full advantage of the existence of PJTV to keep the pressure on CNN for running Hamas' lame propaganda as news.

I'm still catching up with prior threads on this story, but I watched Charles' PJTV appearance, and it's a good start.

374 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:45:36am

re: #370 Rustler

Most of the injuries at Pro Israel rallies occur after the pro muslim rally shows up to interfer physically.


Most of the injuries that occur at pro-Israel rallies occur because journalists are scratching their heads and trying to find ways to justify the lies they tell to hurt Israel.
They scratch so hard that they break the skin and bleed so profusely that the uninformed mistakenly believe that they suffered sever trauma resulting from criminal violence.

375 akak  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:47:07am

re: #372 Rustler

Umm why should Israel talk to someone whose express purpose is Israel's eradication. And why should the US talk to anyone whose express purpose for being is the eradication of one of our allies.

The spectacular fantastic untainted inauguration complete with rainbows, bunnies, unicorns and world peace.

/off the table off, hope it pisses rain that day

376 Pietr  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:47:48am

re: #355 Bloodnok

Future Headline: "USS George H.W. Bush Suffers Sudden Fuel Spill In Sea Of Japan..."

/

Good Lord-lets hope not-it's nuclear powered, right?

377 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:49:28am

re: #376 Pietr

Good Lord-lets hope not-it's nuclear powered, right?


Yes she... I repeat SHE... never call a Naval vessel it.

She is Nuclear powered. CVN. N for nuclear.

378 kcladderman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:50:08am

re: #377 shanec99

Yes she... I repeat SHE... never call a Naval vessel it.

She is Nuclear powered. CVN. N for nuclear.

Though the jets onboard use jp5 jet fuel.

379 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:50:52am

re: #378 kcladderman

Though the jets onboard use jp5 jet fuel.


Yep... nasty stuff.

380 kcladderman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:51:23am

re: #378 kcladderman

Though the jets onboard use jp5 jet fuel.


On the Independence they also used jp5 to flavor the water on occasion.

381 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:51:58am

re: #371 Luigi

Of course, shortly thereafter Palis issued a statement essentially saying that "the senile old peanut farmer is lying, and Hamas never said that."

382 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:52:26am

re: #378 kcladderman
I love the grapes... used to see them in medical with all kind of rashes (contact dematitis) as a result of contact with the JP-5.

383 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:53:20am

re: #380 kcladderman
Heard about that... never had that problem when I was on Ike.

384 formercorpsman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:53:27am

re: #382 shanec99

Shane, are/were you a corpsman?

385 kcladderman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:54:03am

re: #382 shanec99

I love the grapes... used to see them in medical with all kind of rashes (contact dematitis) as a result of contact with the JP-5.

Back in the early 80's they did away with facial hair for e3 and below. Guys would rub jp5 on their faces to get no shave chits.

386 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:54:49am

re: #384 formercorpsman
Yep, HMC (SW/AW/FMF)
8404/8425/8506

387 Pietr  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:55:06am

re: #377 shanec99

Yes she... I repeat SHE... never call a Naval vessel it.

She is Nuclear powered. CVN. N for nuclear.

You don't have to refer to a ship as 'female' anymore. They now have females aboard-so you don't have just your ship, and Rosey Palmer, anymore....Heh Heh.

388 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:55:38am

re: #385 kcladderman
Sore: #386 shanec99

that is what made me treat somany cases of pfb.. the damned scoundrels. lol

389 Rustler  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:56:03am

Gaza 2009 - To win, all Israel has to do is survive Opening Paragraph.

Whatever Israel does to Hamas, Hamas will win. If you kill us, we will become martyrs, the most beloved of God and the Palestinian people, and we will win. If you refrain from killing us, whether from fear or political expedience or moral considerations, we have only cemented our victory.

A quote from Nizer Ghayan. Ghayan is one of the Upper Echelon Hamas operatives who was killed at home with his wives and children shielding him.

390 formercorpsman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:56:16am

re: #386 shanec99

Awesome, I don't know why I never picked up it.

Plus, I still have not had a cup of coffee this morning either.

391 formercorpsman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:57:16am

re: #386 shanec99

When were you in FMF?

392 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:57:42am

Good morning y'all - from a cold (34 degrees, going up to 60 degrees with heavy rain later on) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

393 shanec99  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:58:09am

re: #387 Pietr

You don't have to refer to a ship as 'female' anymore. They now have females aboard-so you don't have just your ship, and Rosey Palmer, anymore....Heh Heh.


Since I have been in the navy they always had women on some classes of ships... Tenders etc (Shannandoah, Yellowstone), but I remember in the 90s when women came to Carriers... Ike was the first... that was something.

394 akak  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:58:21am
Abbas: Israel responsible for 'waterfall of blood' if it rejects Gaza truce

howdy pardna

395 formercorpsman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:00:21am

re: #391 formercorpsman

FMSS

396 kcladderman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:01:21am

re: #393 shanec99

Since I have been in the navy they always had women on some classes of ships... Tenders etc (Shannandoah, Yellowstone), but I remember in the 90s when women came to Carriers... Ike was the first... that was something.

I remember when that happened the first thing I thought was, you used to be able to get $25 for a gallon of mess deck wine. I wonder how much... oh well you know what I mean.

397 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:04:58am

Land-lubber here! Smiles and waves!

398 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:06:39am

AHEM! Good morning y'all - from a cold (34 degrees, going up to 60 degrees with heavy rain later on) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

399 kcladderman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:07:24am

Good Morning !

400 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:07:31am

What is this, there's over (barely but over)100 lizards logged in - where is everyone who wasn't in the Navy?!

401 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:07:49am

re: #398 realwest

They're so busy with the "Ancient Mariner" stories that they don't even know we're here. Hiya Real!

402 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:08:34am

re: #399 kcladderman
Good morning back atcha (I'm assuming your "Good Morning" was directed at me, cause I was getting lonely there!)! How are ya doing today?

403 kcladderman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:09:02am

Just wondering if it was coincidence you two showed up right when the subject of wine and women came up?
//

404 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:09:22am

re: #401 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Hey FBV! "Ancient Mariner" LOL!
How are you today?

405 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:10:16am

re: #403 kcladderman
Oh, purely coincidental on my part! Purely.

406 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:10:55am

Another Corruptocrat bites the dust. The fact that she's a Democrat isn't mentioned until the fourth paragraph.

407 Jetpilot1101  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:11:46am

Good Morning Lizards. I'm bracing for another possible 9 inches of Global Warming this evening.

408 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:11:52am

re: #404 realwest

Oh, doin' alright. This "running scared" economy is killing me, but I'm okay.

409 formercorpsman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:11:56am

Sorry RW, trying to get the kids ready for indoor soccer.

Doing well, cold as a witch's tit up hear.

Just trying to get myself going. I need coffee.

410 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:12:14am

Sigh. And just because I only posted this three or four times on last nights thread (the one prior to this one) if y'all haven't voted for Best Conservative Blog in the last 24 hours, please go and vote for LGF here:
[Link: 2008.weblogawards.org...]

Thankew!

411 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:12:46am

re: #403 kcladderman

Just wondering if it was coincidence you two showed up right when the subject of wine and women came up?
//

I knew a girl who was on an aircraft carrier and worked part time as a call girl (on board).

412 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:13:56am

re: #411 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I knew a girl who was on an aircraft carrier and worked part time as a call girl (on board).

When I was 18 and trying to bed her down, I just didn't have what she was looking for. Twenty bucks.

413 kcladderman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:14:07am

re: #411 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I knew a girl who was on an aircraft carrier and worked part time as a call girl (on board).

You have to stand in line for everything onboard a carrier. I wonder?

414 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:14:58am

re: #406 FrogMarch
Good morning FrogMarch - yeah, that broke (not the video but the story) last night - and the DEMOCRATIC Mayor of Baltimore not only collected "gift cards for disadvantage kids" and then used them herself, she got caught because if the cards were a little short for what she wanted to buy, she used her own credit card to make up the difference.
So she's a stupid Democrat to boot!

415 Pietr  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:15:47am

re: #392 realwest

G'Morning back, RW. Doing Ok, Breezy 54 in San Antone, this AM-only supposed to get to 58...it feels colder to these old bones, tho. see you noticed the "You sunk my Battleship"....

/white smoke...

416 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:16:50am

re: #407 Jetpilot1101 Hey jetpilot1101 - where is it that you live that you're execting so much Climate Change?! Oh and btw, what does the nic with 1101 mean?

417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:16:52am

Biggest full moon of the year is tonight. Don't miss it, unless you are underneath Al Gores Maniacal Weather Machine.

418 Jetpilot1101  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:17:56am

re: #416 realwest

Hey jetpilot1101 - where is it that you live that you're execting so much Climate Change?! Oh and btw, what does the nic with 1101 mean?

I love on Cape Cod and we have been getting hammered this year with snow.

1101 stands for November 2001, the month I was winged and designated a Naval Aviator.

419 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:18:17am

re: #408 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Well I'm not too thrilled with it either, but is it killing you income wise (work, private business) or just irritating you?

420 Jetpilot1101  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:19:16am

re: #418 Jetpilot1101

I love on Cape Cod and we have been getting hammered this year with snow.

1101 stands for November 2001, the month I was winged and designated a Naval Aviator.

PIMF LOVE = LIVE

421 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:19:17am

re: #409 formercorpsman
S'ok - go get some coffee! Hell I'm going to get my second cuppa now!

422 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:20:13am

re: #415 Pietr
""You sunk my Battleship"...." huh?

423 kcladderman  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:20:31am

re: #420 Jetpilot1101

PIMF LOVE = LIVE

In the words of George Strait
If you aint lovin you aint living.

424 Jetpilot1101  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:21:15am

re: #423 kcladderman

In the words of George Strait
If you aint lovin you aint living.

Excellent point and excellent artist!

425 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:21:37am

re: #410 realwest

Sigh. And just because I only posted this three or four times on last nights thread (the one prior to this one) if y'all haven't voted for Best Conservative Blog in the last 24 hours, please go and vote for LGF here:
[Link: 2008.weblogawards.org...]

Thankew!

Sure!
Also, That A-HOLE creep Andrew Sullivan (who is no different than KOS yet calls himself a "conservative" - and still to this day demands that Palin prove she gave birth to Trigg) is leading in the "Best Blog" category. Please - go vote for Michelle Malkin!

426 realwest  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:22:15am

re: #418 Jetpilot1101
Well I'm impressed as hell about you being a navy jet jock! Are you still active duty?
I just can't imagine trying to land an F-18 (or anything else!) on a carrier deck. I salute you for your service!

427 Pietr  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:23:09am

re: #422 realwest

Re All the Navy talk, where you normally find the Army and Marines holding forth....I figured you'd catch it. Go get that coffee.....apparently you're not fully awake, LOL.

428 Jetpilot1101  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:24:14am

re: #426 realwest

Well I'm impressed as hell about you being a navy jet jock! Are you still active duty?
I just can't imagine trying to land an F-18 (or anything else!) on a carrier deck. I salute you for your service!

I actually fly for the CG; we all go through Navy Flight School to earn our wings. I'm flying the only jet in the CG inventory, the Falcon 20. As much as I'd love to fly an F-18 off a carrier, I'm quite content with my quality of life in the CG and my wife sure appreciates my 2 week TDY as opposed to 6 month deployments.

429 BignJames  Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:27:40am

re: #428 Jetpilot1101

Is it really true that you have to be 6' tall to get in the CG?