I am just a country boy,

Country boy at heart...

I used to be married, too, Oscar.

To advance an idea from the last thread, linking this Gaza hospital video to the idea that Hamas leaders are posing as doctors and nurses in hospitals to hide, there may be a lot more information in that video than we initially realized.

Maybe Mad Mads is Hamas?

re: #1 Noam Sayin'

Hmmm. Says "Embedding disabled by request".

Test.

Let's kick this into high for Friday night! (NSFW)

Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.
-Oscar Wilde, De Profundis, 1905

Ya! What he said!

re: #4 Slumbering Behemoth

Works for me.

*tap...tap* Is this thing on?

re: #3 spirochete

Maybe Mad Mads is Hamas?

He's quite obviously the Norwegian cell leader, that's for sure.

I recently heard that there were Hamas cells in at least 20 American cities, including San Francisco. It only dawned on me then that the Hamas "supporters" at these locals rallies whom I encounter might very well be Hamas members -- i.e. they are Hamas.

Spooky, to say the least.

One of my fav guitarists...Mr. Knopfler has the chops

And, from Sexy, Naughty, Disney, we go to Sesame Street for Avenue Q's "The Internet Is For Porn":

re: #9 zombie

He's quite obviously the Norwegian cell leader, that's for sure.

I recently heard that there were Hamas cells in at least 20 American cities, including San Francisco. It only dawned on me then that the Hamas "supporters" at these locals rallies whom I encounter might very well be Hamas members -- i.e. they are Hamas.

Spooky, to say the least.

I'd bet there were more than 20. This is why I love the Patriot Act. Prior to that gem, they could easily get away with that type of organizing.

Allison Krauss has the voice of an angel.

Uh oh, i think the lounge fell off its collective barstool.

Wont be long now befor the Patriot Act is rescinded or at the least re-written to protect the rights of terrorists.

re: #7 Noam Sayin'

When I click on the one in your post, that's what it says. If I click on the video window itself, it goes right to the youtube vid, no problem. Mine works for me, though. Go figure.

More of Jerry Douglas...

Alright, good night, youse all.

I guess I would be more afraid of the Al Qaeda cells. Those guys blend in and you would never suspect. I remember reading about how a lot of cesium supplies and waste were disappearing from North Carolina hospitals several years ago. Then I read that some of the 9/11 guys lived in Greensboro for awhile.

You just never know.

Sharkie,

You get bounced too?

re: #9 zombie

He's quite obviously the Norwegian cell leader, that's for sure.

I recently heard that there were Hamas cells in at least 20 American cities, including San Francisco. It only dawned on me then that the Hamas "supporters" at these locals rallies whom I encounter might very well be Hamas members -- i.e. they are Hamas.

Spooky, to say the least.

Hi Zom!
I up dinged you..just it's nice seeing you...plus i had roll over dings from last month. :)

PETA wants to save sea kittens.

My Cat Overlord is not amused.

Yes'm and it is still busted :(

Im feeling all nervous posting in the threads.

re: #22 Sharku

Damn, I need a wine icon, fast!

And now, a classic - Paula Abdul's "Cold Hearted Snake":

re: #5 gmsc

Let's kick this into high for Friday night! (NSFW)

[Video]

Damn those evil, liberal bastids, dirtying up those wholesome Disney cartoons. What will they do next? Maybe depict beloved Disney icons smoking, drinking, and acting slutty?

The nerve!
/

re: #15 Sharku

Wont be long now befor the Patriot Act is rescinded or at the least re-written to protect the rights of terrorists.

I never quite understood the need for Patriot Act in the first place. I mean, I read way back in the '90s that the NSA routinely monitored ALL internet traffic and most cell-tower transmissions. No warrant, no nothin' -- because they weren't (supposedly) spying for individuals but rather scanning for patterns -- "chatter," as it were. And that when necessary, they could focus in on individual communications.

It seems that all the Patriot Act did was certify as legitimate these pr-existing NSA activities. But if it is rescinded, I assume (and hope, frankly) that they just revert to doing it surreptitiously.

re: #24 gmsc

Ohh, I remember that one from high school.

re: #20 HoosierHoops

Hi Zom!
I up dinged you..just it's nice seeing you...plus i had roll over dings from last month. :)

Use 'em or lose 'em!

re: #21 ggt

PETA wants to save sea kittens.

My Cat Overlord is not amused.

I don't want to save them - they leave sea biscuits everywhere!

At least with the Patriot Act, they can use the information in the courts.

re: #30 Sharku

Like it will matter once the one stacks the courts with marxist judges.

re: #21 ggt

PETA wants to save sea kittens.

My Cat Overlord is not amused.

Sea Kittens? I thought they were the Tampa Bay Bucaneers cheerleading squad.

re: #15 Sharku

Wont be long now befor the Patriot Act is rescinded or at the least re-written to protect the rights of terrorists.

When you elect people that are more concerned about the "rights" of scumbags caught on a battlefield than the citizens, this is what you get. Every time I hear one of these people go off about how the "rights" of the subhumans at Guantanamo being stepped on, I want to puke...I really think there are people in the country that would rather see the USA destroyed than to deny someone their precious rights...Rights that they don't even have nor do they deserve. Not that long ago, if we found non uniformed "irregulars" on a battlefield, they were lined up and shot.

Once "the One" is in, Guantanamo will be closed and I bet we will start seeing trials of these guys in regular US Courts. I bet the ones that get off will turn and sue the USA, either that or go back to whatever shithole they came from and start killing US Soldiers again...or both!

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

Damn those evil, liberal bastids, dirtying up those wholesome Disney cartoons. What will they do next? Maybe depict beloved Disney icons smoking, drinking, and acting slutty?

[Video]

The nerve!
/

I'll see that and raise you Ariel wishing for female genitalia:

What is a sea kitten and more importantly, what do they taste like ?

re: #35 Sharku

What is a sea kitten and more importantly, what do they taste like ?

The new politically correct name for fish.

re: #35 Sharku

I'm picturing shrimp scampi. Or lobster tails in drawn butter.

re: #22 Sharku

Yes'm and it is still busted :(

Im feeling all nervous posting in the threads.

We don't bite here. OK maybe sometimes/

re: #35 Sharku

What is a sea kitten and more importantly, what do they taste like ?

Mmmm, tasty

re: #27 bebe's boobs destroy

Ohh, I remember that one from high school.

It's one of my favorites. It reminds me of this one:

33 Desert Dog

I think the gitmo detainees should be released immediatly. Taken out into international waters ... and release them.

re: #39 Desert Dog

Mmmm, tasty

LOL

re: #38 Erik The Red

We don't bite here. OK maybe sometimes/

What's kicking chicken?

re: #22 Sharku

Yes'm and it is still busted :(

Im feeling all nervous posting in the threads.

Why are you feeling nervous?

re: #38 Erik The Red

We don't bite here. OK maybe sometimes/

But, only after a proper BBQ.

re: #9 zombie

He's quite obviously the Norwegian cell leader, that's for sure.

I recently heard that there were Hamas cells in at least 20 American cities, including San Francisco. It only dawned on me then that the Hamas "supporters" at these locals rallies whom I encounter might very well be Hamas members -- i.e. they are Hamas.

Spooky, to say the least.

no... Sppoky would be reassuring...

/assuming you had good commo, of course. %-)

I booked a tour with Allison Krauss for a musician I represented, my friend, Billy McLaughlin. I really wished I could have been on that tour.

On their stop in Knoxville, we set up an impromptu gig at a shopping mall, where Billy would busk and the road manager would sell CDs, picking up an extra $1k or so on the trip (record company wasn't familiar with 'tour support').

As Billy performed, a man in the crowd studied his hand-work; bewildered and amazed. Then he finally went up to the tour manager and asked, "What in THE hell is that boy doin' with that there guitar?"

Focal dystonia set in a year later. This would have ended most guitarists careers. Not Billy. Billy took to learning the guitar all over again - left handed. One of the most amazing people I've ever known.

re: #35 Sharku

What is a sea kitten and more importantly, what do they taste like ?

cat food.

if G*d had meant us to eat fish, she wouldn't have made the land animals so easy to catch.

re: #40 gmsc

Hey, that is my favorite Billy Idol song! Now you need If Looks Could Kill from Heart.

44 ggt
I fear the ban stick, and with my big mouth I can see it happening.

re: #43 HoosierHoops

What's kicking chicken?

Hey 2H. Not much licking. At work as usual on a Sat. morning.

re: #50 Sharku

44 ggt
I fear the ban stick, and with my big mouth I can see it happening.

A healthy respect for Stinky is appropriate.

re: #45 ggt

Geez, how many times do I have to tell people. Do NOT eat the trolls. Your intestines will hate you.

re: #46 redc1c4

no... Sppoky would be reassuring...

/assuming you had good commo, of course. %-)

Spooky...

PIFW!

re: #41 Sharku

Shark infested international waters?

re: #53 bebe's boobs destroy

Geez, how many times do I have to tell people. Do NOT eat the trolls. Your intestines will hate you.

no, no, no. That only applies to raw trolls. Properly BBQ'd they are very digestible.

re: #56 ggt

Whoops. GGT, you must have a cast iron stomache.

Trolls fear H O N C O S ™

re: #33 Desert Dog

When you elect people that are more concerned about the "rights" of scumbags caught on a battlefield than the citizens, this is what you get. Every time I hear one of these people go off about how the "rights" of the subhumans at Guantanamo being stepped on, I want to puke...I really think there are people in the country that would rather see the USA destroyed than to deny someone their precious rights...Rights that they don't even have nor do they deserve. Not that long ago, if we found non uniformed "irregulars" on a battlefield, they were lined up and shot.

Once "the One" is in, Guantanamo will be closed and I bet we will start seeing trials of these guys in regular US Courts. I bet the ones that get off will turn and sue the USA, either that or go back to whatever shithole they came from and start killing US Soldiers again...or both!

I still allow for the possibility that Gitmo is a distraction for public consumption. There may be blacker holding cells elsewhere.

re: #49 bebe's boobs destroy

Hey, that is my favorite Billy Idol song! Now you need If Looks Could Kill from Heart.

see bebes, us lounge lizards are acting all goofy here in the threads.

re: #51 Erik The Red

Hey 2H. Not much licking. At work as usual on a Sat. morning.

So all those times we were at work and you were setting by the pool with scotch in hand teasing..
LOL
How does it feel now?
/hope you are well

re: #15 Sharku

Wont be long now before the Patriot Act is rescinded or at the least re-written to protect the rights of make us terrorists.

FTFY!

re: #58 bebe's boobs destroy

Whoops. GGT, you must have a cast iron stomache.

H O N C O ™ stomach!

re: #63 HoosierHoops

So all those times we were at work and you were setting by the pool with scotch in hand teasing..
LOL
How does it feel now?
/hope you are well

HH, I haven't looked outside lately. Is it still blizzarding?

BTW, how are you?

BIG HONCO IS RIPPING US OFF!

Big H O N C O ™ is ripping us off!

re: #62 Sharku

see bebes, us lounge lizards are acting all goofy here in the threads.

I dunno. Its sooo slooowww though. Heh.

re: #67 HoosierHoops

BIG HONCO IS RIPPING US OFF!

Of course, they are infringing on ™ rights.

:0

re: #69 bebe's boobs destroy

I dunno. Its sooo slooowww though. Heh.

Let's throw a little fun into the music, then!

re: #67 HoosierHoops

BIG HONCO IS RIPPING US OFF!

friking browser locked up on the copy & paste, ya bastage!

on the upside, it's going to be 80* or so here tomorrow.

/global warming!

re: #34 gmsc

"Stunts" are required for nearly everything?

Holy shit, dude. Don't tell my ex, I don't "require" her for anything.

/I kid. I "require" her to leave me the hell alone. Stalkers suck.

re: #71 gmsc

Embedding disabled by request.

Think its beddy bai time though. Nite Nite.

The paraquat er parachat site is totally down, so it isnt just our lounge thats busted.

re: #66 ggt

HH, I haven't looked outside lately. Is it still blizzarding?

BTW, how are you?

Thanks for asking..we are hunkered down..It's real bad weather for the next 24 hours.. It is pouring down rain and the temp is going to drop fast and we will get another ice storm then snow in the morning...It's going to be bad..

re: #71 gmsc

Let's throw a little fun into the music, then!

[Video]

Oops . . . trying again:

re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth

"Stunts" are required for nearly everything?

Holy shit, dude. Don't tell my ex, I don't "require" her for anything.

/I kid. I "require" her to leave me the hell alone. Stalkers suck.

did she go psycho on ya, or were you slow on the uptake?

/just curious... %-)

re: #78 redc1c4

Both.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Excellent article.

Many people ask why there are so few Israeli casualties in comparison with the Palestinian death toll. It's because Israel's first priority is the safety of its citizens, which is why there are shelters and warning systems in Israeli towns. If Hamas can dig tunnels, it can certainly build shelters. Instead, it prefers to use women and children as human shields while its leaders rush into hiding.

re: #73 Slumbering Behemoth

"Stunts" are required for nearly everything?

Holy shit, dude. Don't tell my ex, I don't "require" her for anything.

/I kid. I "require" her to leave me the hell alone. Stalkers suck.

"Stunts"? No.

Remove the "St" at the beginning, and replace it with a "C".

80 traderjoe9
It is simple really, the IDF does not use Toddler Armor.

Hmmm I should stay away from the Hamas topic, Stinky will get me for sure...

re: #76 HoosierHoops

Thanks for asking..we are hunkered down..It's real bad weather for the next 24 hours.. It is pouring down rain and the temp is going to drop fast and we will get another ice storm then snow in the morning...It's going to be bad..

yuk!

I don't know Oscar, I don't really see any truth seeking journalist suffering because "somebody" forces them to tell a story... On the contrary- they seam to like it

re: #81 gmsc

I know, hence the quotes. I was editing that for the more sensitive Lizards. Just trying to be amicable.

/did I just type "hence"? Sheesh!

Two classic that go well together:

Disney's "Alice In Wonderland" and Rocky Horror Picture Show's "Time Warp"!

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

I know, hence the quotes. I was editing that for the more sensitive Lizards. Just trying to be amicable.

/did I just type "hence"? Sheesh!

Ah! Understood.

/Hence, you are forgiven.

re: #76 HoosierHoops

Thanks for asking..we are hunkered down..It's real bad weather for the next 24 hours.. It is pouring down rain and the temp is going to drop fast and we will get another ice storm then snow in the morning...It's going to be bad..

that sucks...

i'm just glad i hit the store today for enough cheep beer to get me through the first part of the weekend. %-)

re: #82 Sharku

80 traderjoe9
It is simple really, the IDF does not use Toddler Armor.

I know the answer is simple...and its really another story that Hamas and other terrorists do indeed use children and women as human shields. For me, I appreciated the fact that the writer mentioned how Israel itself is dedicated to the security of its citizens first. Hundreds of terrorists used to pour out of the West Bank and attack targets in Israel...and now as a result of tight presence in the West Bank, as well as the Security Wall among other things, the number of terrorist attacks has dwindled significantly.

This isn't to say that it wont happen again in the future and that we should stop worrying...absolutely not. But it is good to note.

re: #81 gmsc

"Stunts"? No.

Remove the "St" at the beginning, and replace it with a "C".

or a "K", if the situation is extreme... %-)

All these rock songs and that Alice in Wonderland video make me think of "Dance Magic Dance":

90 traderjoe9
The writer had best be carefull, writing a positive story on Israel is a fast track to the unemployment line.

re: #84 ggt

yuk!

LOL
I'll never forget when we transfered out here from Cali..The first really bad ice storm i came running into the house..omg..my car is encased in ice! I also didn't think to have a snow shovel..pathetic!
no crap..I gave up chipping ice from the car and was running outside with hot water in a kool-aid pitcher and pouring it over the car..
you had to be there

Somebody should edit these Hamas' propaganda clips into one video, but I have only one demand: The playback has to be the song "It's a wonderful world"... oh ya...

Is the Lizard Lounge down?

96 venjanz yup, the whole parachat site is down.

Ahh that sucks

re: #94 HoosierHoops

LOL
I'll never forget when we transfered out here from Cali..The first really bad ice storm i came running into the house..omg..my car is encased in ice! I also didn't think to have a snow shovel..pathetic!
no crap..I gave up chipping ice from the car and was running outside with hot water in a kool-aid pitcher and pouring it over the car..
you had to be there

Didn't you have any neighbors to ask for help?

re: #94 HoosierHoops

LOL
I'll never forget when we transfered out here from Cali..The first really bad ice storm i came running into the house..omg..my car is encased in ice! I also didn't think to have a snow shovel..pathetic!
no crap..I gave up chipping ice from the car and was running outside with hot water in a kool-aid pitcher and pouring it over the car..
you had to be there

I just chip my way into the car and start the engine. Go in for a couple cuppas and come out and most of the ice has separated from the car and can be brushed off. Of course, this takes forethought and planning.

I have been a lizard for over three years and still havent hit 1000 comments, no links, Im pathetic...

OK, we're going to dig all the way back to 1983 for this next video.

However, even 17 years and thousands of videos later, Vh1 could only find 30 videos that they could declare to be better than this one:

re: #94 HoosierHoops

you had to be there

Not only have I been there, I've done that. :-/

re: #87 gmsc

Cool song, crummy movie.

/Would this be an inappropriate time to confess that I had a crush on Magenta?

re: #101 Sharku

Hehe I submit hundreds of links, but rarely comment in a thread.

re: #102 gmsc

OK, we're going to dig all the way back to 1983 for this next video.

However, even 17 years and thousands of videos later, Vh1 could only find 30 videos that they could declare to be better than this one:

re: #101 Sharku

try this one. It's an oldie but I still love it.
By the way: this is a painful truth

re: #104 Slumbering Behemoth

Cool song, crummy movie.

/Would this be an inappropriate time to confess that I had a crush on Magenta?

I've always like Labyrinth, but there are bits and pieces I see in it that nobody else seems to.

I think the movie need to be redone as "The Annotated Labyrinth" (by Martin Gardner?), with explanations of the details in each scene.

re: #107 DJ Wahaba

That's awesome... I remember first hearing this song on YTMND, but video is great

re: #99 ggt

Didn't you have any neighbors to ask for help?

The reason to move here was space...Blessed to hang out here...And I survey the world from the expanse of cornfields...But let's face it..My survival instints were pretty lame..I have never been so cold...
But after a few years we all got used to it..

re: #103 littleoldlady

Not only have I been there, I've done that. :-/

LOL Miss ya! How are you?

So I want to buy a new shotgun next weekend, preferably one I can use for both home defense and hunting for in the $500 range... any advice?

re: #108 gmsc

Wait, I thought we were talking about Rocky Horror, not Labyrinth. I actually thought Labyrinth was pretty cool. I know, I'm a dork sometimes.

Hoosier! :-)

Where ya been?

I'm okay. Expecting a schmutz storm so the barometer woke me up.

re: #109 venjanz

Yep, even though this version is a bit obscured, like the situation in Gaza: you don't really know which Palestinian is killed by Israelis and which by his own co-nationalists %-)

re: #94 HoosierHoops

LOL
I'll never forget when we transfered out here from Cali..The first really bad ice storm i came running into the house..omg..my car is encased in ice! I also didn't think to have a snow shovel..pathetic!
no crap..I gave up chipping ice from the car and was running outside with hot water in a kool-aid pitcher and pouring it over the car..
you had to be there

i'd rather be here in Cali... %-P

re: #113 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, I thought we were talking about Rocky Horror, not Labyrinth. I actually thought Labyrinth was pretty cool. I know, I'm a dork sometimes.

Ah, got it. Rocky Horror is supposed to be a bad movie, though. It would be far worse if it was supposed to be a multi-million-dollar extravaganza.

re: #112 venjanz

Benelli makes excellent shotguns for under $500, start here.. [Link: www.benelliusa.com...]

re: #107 DJ Wahaba

try this one. It's an oldie but I still love it.
By the way: this is a painful truth

[Video]

That makes me think of:

Back to bed for me.

have a great morning all!

weet dreams all!

re: #114 littleoldlady

Hoosier! :-)

Where ya been?

I'm okay. Expecting a schmutz storm so the barometer woke me up.

It's so messed up here.. It is pouring rain..soon the temp goes freezing..pure ice...
then it snows..
I'm happy to hear everything is good with you...Have a hoopster fruitcup..Lots of oranges..grapes..yogurt

re: #112 venjanz

So I want to buy a new shotgun next weekend, preferably one I can use for both home defense and hunting for in the $500 range... any advice?

Remington 870 Express, with a spare barrel. one long, one short.

Mossberg 500 is ok also, and 2H6 bought herself a Winchester 1300 for Election Day therapy that's pretty nice too.

/i'd still go with the 870. %-)

Looks like Caylee was intentionally killed from forensics and death was around 16 June buried where found around 18 June. Whatever sentence the mom gets won't be enough.

re: #116 redc1c4

i'd rather be here in Cali... %-P

Born and raised...
Great state

re: #122 redc1c4

Despite putting it on my Christmas list (more than once) you could imagine my disappointemnt at no SPAS-12 under the Christmas tree.

re: #122 redc1c4

I think i like this one...

[Link: www.impactguns.com...]

re: #121 HoosierHoops

Oranges, grapes and yogurt? That's...um...so creative! ;-)

re: #126 venjanz

I think i like this one...

[Link: www.impactguns.com...]

Visit here in Vegas - we'll take you to the gun store, and you practice shooting full automatic weapons!

Well, I can tell by the effect of the cough medicine on the old noggin that it's time to go beddie bye now.

Good night all!

Well all of you Thread Lizards, have a good night and a better day tomorrow.

re: #128 gmsc

Last time I went to Vegas was 2005... and I had no idea at the time that I could have ripped it up out at the range. I Did manage to get a tour of the Nevada test site and got an Einstein action figure from the Atomic Testing Museum though hehe.

re: #127 littleoldlady

Oranges, grapes and yogurt? That's...um...so creative! ;-)

If I'm stuck on an island.. If i could have safeway yogurt i'd be good..
Music would be a tougher call...

re: #124 HoosierHoops

Born and raised...
Great state

me too, as is 2H6. winter in the SFV

/we're still here %-)

re: #126 venjanz

I think i like this one...

[Link: www.impactguns.com...]

but will it take a long hunting barrel, and are you paying extra for the word "tactical" in the name?

re: #134 redc1c4

Aren't those polymer Glocks and SIGs the same color as elephant crap also billed as 'tactical'?

re: #112 venjanz

So I want to buy a new shotgun next weekend, preferably one I can use for both home defense and hunting for in the $500 range... any advice?

For double duty like that you want something by Remington.

re: #132 HoosierHoops

If I'm stuck on an island.. If i could have safeway yogurt i'd be good..
Music would be a tougher call...

Learn to sing? ;-)

Shotgun?

7-shot 23mm semi-auto.

===

Rootwater - Hava Nagila

GET
BACK,
R

G'nite Lizards, I'm out. Gonna play a video game for a bit, and maybe do some more research on the alleged cause of gout if the mood strikes me.

Later.

re: #138 Render

Not exactly the Bar Mitzvah version, eh? ;-)

RENDER! :-)

Sea Kittens?
PETA?
Don't kill animals?
My "Land" cat just laid a dead bird at my feet.
What is nature telling us, PETA?

have a great night every one

re: #137 littleoldlady

Learn to sing? ;-)

LOL
so music...on a desert island.. Tom Petty,Van Halen, compilation of all the great christmas songs..B.B. King.U2..( the early shit) Axis bold as love..

btw, i always try to stay up when i can to watch Red Eye on FNC. it is a good one

I'm just counting down the days until they make a fragmentation grenade the size of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge shotgun shell...for the purpose of being fired out of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge.

re: #134 redc1c4

Good point. The one I had was a "tactical" shotgun, and it looked cool, but I would like one that is more geared to hunting now, I suppose.

When a cowboy says "women" he means two different kinds;
there's the real kind, and then there's the kind in his mind.
The real kind's a mystery, that he don't understand,
but the mind kind he knows like the palm of his hand.

So hup! Little dough-gy, little dough-gy get along,'
the nights on the prairie are lonely and long...

re: #146 venjanz

Good point. The one I had was a "tactical" shotgun, and it looked cool, but I would like one that is more geared to hunting now, I suppose.

the Express has Parkerized metal, for no shine and easy care, and the wood is plain and dull... all good tactical, but without the extra for all black, and avoids the "evil black gun" syndrome, should you ever need to use it.

changing the barrel on one is easy too.

i have a wingmaster, which i love, but since it's blued and shiny, you're always worried about the finish. they didn't make the Express when i bought it.

re: #145 Fenway_Nation

I'm just counting down the days until they make a fragmentation grenade the size of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge shotgun shell...for the purpose of being fired out of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge.

it won't have a very big bursting radius, and what are you thinking about for fuzing?

re: #148 redc1c4

Thanks man, I'm going to look into these tomorrow.

re: #150 venjanz

Thanks man, I'm going to look into these tomorrow.

de nada... it's all part of the free service!

re: #149 redc1c4

Haven't thought that far ahead...I'm sure someone else might be working on it as we speak.

re: #141 IslandLibertarian

I saw a couple of quotes that were interesting.

The first person asked, "How can you find pleasure in shooting from behind cover at poor creatures browsing on the edge of a wood, innocent, defenseless, and unsuspecting? It's really pure murder!"

The second person decried the "unbearable torture and suffering in animal experiments" and condemned "those who still think they can treat animals as inanimate property."

Sounds kinda like PETA, doesn't it?

Person number one, according to Jonah Goldberg in his book Liberal Fascism, is Heinrich Himmler. Person number two is Hermann Goering.

re: #152 Fenway_Nation

Haven't thought that far ahead...I'm sure someone else might be working on it as we speak.

well, i'd go with a model like you see in the WW2/Korea movies, where the projo fit over the muzzle...

of couse, i'd rather just have an M-79 instead.

re: #145 Fenway_Nation

I'm just counting down the days until they make a fragmentation grenade the size of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge shotgun shell...for the purpose of being fired out of a run-of-the-mill 12 gauge.

Just a couple links for the imagination...

http://www.defensereview.com/1_31_2004/FRAG%2012.pdf

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1039 (about half way down...)

My fave weapon in the Corps is the MK-19... there's just something about making things go BOOM! that never gets old. =)

re: #153 Steffan

Interesting quotes.
And I'm sure every PETA member is Pro-Life...

dragging, and today's gonna be busy and warm, so i'm for the rack, by way of the fruitcup lair... enjoy the results!

hasta y'all...

L8r!

re: #156 IslandLibertarian

Interesting quotes.
And I'm sure every PETA member is Pro-Life...

People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

oldie, i know. %-)

re: #117 gmsc

Ah, got it. Rocky Horror is supposed to be a bad movie, though. It would be far worse if it was supposed to be a multi-million-dollar extravaganza.

Rocky Horror is a great party movie. The rowdy audiences of the midnight show kept a lot of theaters afloat during Carter's term of "malaise."

If you have to watch it in DVD, choose the "Audience Participation" soundtrack.

FINALLY! A columnist in Belfast that does GET IT!

Media bias ensures Hamas is always going to win PR battle

Why are terror groups so very good at PR?

Because people who don’t ask a lot of hard questions allow themselves to be taken in by them. It happened here. And it is happening now in the Middle East. We used to talk in these parts about visiting commentators being seduced by the whiff of cordite. Never mind that the ‘freedom fighters’ exuding gun smoke and hype were murdering fascists whose main victims were their own community.

They’d portrayed themselves as the underdogs — the oppressed. And that, temporarily anyway, was PR gold. It still is ?

Today, according to the broad brushstroke coverage of the crisis in Gaza, Israelis are the mindless, inhumane bully boys of the Middle East. The raids on Gaza we’re told, are purely about ‘revenge’. Not about trying to end a truly intolerable situation where hundreds of thousands of Israeli civilians have been living in fear of being killed by totally indiscriminate bombing by Qassam rockets.

What was Israel expected to do about this bombardment? (About which there have been, inevitably, no candlelit vigils in London, Paris or LA). Just sit there and take it? Wait as the rockets became ever more sophisticated, ever more powerful? They couldn’t and they didn’t.

And a world which sat back complacent while Israeli children were being killed and maimed now displays a double standard by agonising over the death and maiming of Palestinian children.

Put brutally, those pictures of children being carried bloodied and crying from the rubble are TV gold to Hamas. Don’t kid yourself they cause tears to course down the faces of the Hamas leaders. They are exactly what Hamas want. Hamas rockets were launched at Israel precisely in order to provoke such a response.

Hamas, who hide behind the skirts of women and the children they use as human shields, know full well it is impossible for the Israelis to strike the terror chiefs without inflicting civilian casualties. Civilian casualties which, it has to be said, have provoked a heart-searching in Israel not reciprocated in Arab nations when it comes to Israeli children. For, contrary to common portrayal, Israel is the real underdog in the Middle East. A small democratic nation which encourages free speech, it is surrounded on all sides by its powerful Arab enemies, most of whom refuse to even recognise its right to exist and have at regular intervals talked about wiping it entirely off the face of the earth (a threat that Israel understandably does not take lightly given past history. See also 20th century Europe. Under heading: Holocaust).

And who’s side does the so-called liberal West generally embrace?

Needless to say not the liberal Western- aligned Israel. But the fundamentalist fanatics who aside from their anti-Semitic hatred are committed to murdering homosexuals, denying women even basic rights and brutally crushing any political opposition.

the rest can be read here:
[Link: www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk...]

re: #156 IslandLibertarian

Interesting quotes.
And I'm sure every PETA member is Pro-Life...

As a matter of fact, yes. Just not Pro-Human-Life.

re: #15 Sharku

Wont be long now befor the Patriot Act is rescinded or at the least re-written to protect the rights of terrorists.

Pssst.

Judge's Order Could Keep Public From Hearing Details of 9/11 Trials

The protective order, which was signed on Dec. 18 by Judge Stephen R. Henley, an Army colonel, not only protects documents and information that have been classified by intelligence agencies, it also presumptively classifies any information "referring" to a host of agencies, including the CIA, the FBI and the State Department. The order also allows the court in certain circumstances to classify information already in the public domain and presumptively classifies "any statements made by the accused."

Three of the accused, including Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, are defending themselves and, under the order, anything they say during the course of the trial could be shielded from the public.

"These rules turn the presumption of openness on its head, making what is perhaps the most important trial in American history presumptively closed to the public and the press," said Jennifer Daskal, senior counterterrorism counsel at Human Rights Watch. "If these rules applied in all cases, there would be no such thing as an open trial in America."
[snip]

The protective order states, in part, that "any document or information including but not limited to any subject referring to the Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, Department of State, National Security Council, Federal Bureau of Investigation, or intelligence agencies of any foreign government, or similar entity, or information in the possession of such agency, shall be presumed to fall within the meaning of 'classified national security information or document' unless and until the [senior security adviser] or Prosecution advises otherwise in writing."

re: #160 ShiksaGrrrl

I regret that I have but one upding to give...

re: #163 Fenway_Nation

I regret that I have but one upding to give...

Lucky for you i have an extra ding in my pocket somewhere.

I love this country. Sometime I think Turkish people are more sheeple than the rest of the world. Regardless fo the fact they have hezbollah people and al-qaeda people here they still protest for "filistin". I like that phrase philistines. It makes more sense than "palestinians".
My students and I had a discussion about this. Generally I avoid politics in the classroom however, I had 4 students get up and walk out yesterday to attend a pro palestinian demo. It really pissed me off. So I counted them absent and gave them zero on the quiz I gave. They didnt know what to think when I asked them why they care so much about palestine but most palestinians don't care about anyone else but themselves... and couldnt answer why if the rest of the muslim world cares about muslim brotherhood nobody is going there to help them and none of their neighbors want them. The media really brainwashes people these days.

This never fails to impress me on a couple of different levels.

The photographer seems quite taken with the third locomotive in on the head-end (a rare experimental Catepillar powered unit that never really caught on)- but we're viewing a combined 34,600 horsepower (17,000 on the head end, 17,600 mid-train). And it's never quiet with that many horses involved.

Ironically, the grimy, 30+ year old locomotives in the video are likely more 'green' in terms of fuel consumption than a Prius (hybrid cars also borrowed the concept of dynamic braking from locomotives like these).

But each time I see this, I notice something new- the last locomotive on the head end definitely isn't running (otherwise it would be closer to a combined 38,000 hp) and the fourth locomotive mid-train definitely does not have a turbocharger (another oddball locomotive, likely rebuilt by the Illinois Central in their Paducah, KY shops before being sold secondhand as a 'rent-a-wreck')...

re: #164 Buster Bunny

Lucky for you i have an extra ding in my pocket somewhere.

Worst pick-up line ever...

re: #167 Fenway_Nation

Worst pick-up line ever...

Naah, I think the worst pickup line ever came from my first generation japanese-american paul who used to meet girls and say shit like "What you tink of corin powwer"?
hehe. He never could grasp thate idea you cant pick up chicks with politicaş lines.

Killed the thread with T-minus ten minutes to fruitcup! Yesss...more for me!

Note to self- the next time an ID thread degenerates into lizard-on-lizard immolation, post links to locomotive videos. All involved parties shall lose interest.

/Almost time for some fruitcuppage.

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

re: #171 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

right on the tick!

YAHOOO! I'm gonna win the Powerball TONIGHT!

Matrix! :-)

Not too many people here to witness. ;-)

Fenway! :-)

re: #174 littleoldlady

But it's there for posterity!

re: #175 Fenway_Nation

But it's there for posterity prosperity!

/positive thinking... ;_)

Hamas Rats
(with apologies to the Lovin' Spoonful)

Hamas rats
Say prayers for Jewish slaughter,
Hamas rats
Pray "death to all the Jews",
Hamas rats
Love killing Jewish babies,
Hamas rats
Kill their own babies too.

Looks like it's just you and me, matrix.

Hence...all you can eat fruitcup. I could use a little pick-me-up after that bacon-wrapped filet mignon, lobster bisque and garlic mashed potatoes.

/not bad for a bachelor

re: #178 Fenway_Nation

Looks like it's just you and me, matrix.

Hence...all you can eat fruitcup. I could use a little pick-me-up after that bacon-wrapped filet mignon, lobster bisque and garlic mashed potatoes.

/not bad for a bachelor

That sounds fantastic!

I went and had a huge "Chile Colorado" burrito, with rice and beans. Chips and salsa too. I'm actually stuffed, no room for fruitcup but I dinged it anyway!

What, nobody likes the Spoonful?
/

re: #165 baconeatingkaffir

Oh hello, bacon! I'm glad you're here because I've been doing some thinking about Turkey lately. I would like your opinion of how eager Turkey is to be admitted to the EU these days. My sense is that they would love to be wanted but feel very disrespected.

re: #180 Spare O'Lake

Spare O'Lake! :-)

Love them!

How do you imbed a video like that?

/I musta been on vacation...

re: #179 TheMatrix31

Shelf life's pretty good for fruitcup (and even if it isn't...hey- fruitcup pruno!).

re: #183 Fenway_Nation

Shelf life's pretty good for fruitcup (and even if it isn't...hey- fruitcup pruno!).

Haha...I guess I can have some sour grapes. I'm watching the MLB Network's special on the 1996 World Series.

**sigh**

re: #184 TheMatrix31

I'm thrilled that the MLB has it's own network (from what I understand, they'll be doing a couple of weekly games during the regular season as well as some minor-league games and coverage of the World Baseball Classic) but I really could do without the Yankee/Yankee stadium slobber-fest that's apparently kicking off the innaugural week.

re: #181 wahabicorridor

It depends on wh oyou ask about the European Union. The average people here who work and try to make ends meet dont really want it. They see it as a way for the islamists to force the army to back away from secularism and also they have already witnessed the raping of the economy when the turks went into the open economy in the mid 80s. None of my students (university) have mentioned wanting to go to europe and work because they know its screwed up. Alot of Turks from Europe are coming back here to live because believe it or not the economic conditions are better.
The rich seem to see the European Union as a way to make more money. The Islamists see it as a way to get what they want. Very few people I know care about Europe except for their tourism. Even then, alot of European expats and touristas are starting to wear out their welcome becasuse of their behavior.

Putin,
Please turn on the gas.
Putin,
Europe's freezing its ass.
So Putin,
Take the damn Ukraine,
But Putin,
Please spare Europe the pain.

re: #185 Fenway_Nation

I'm thrilled that the MLB has it's own network (from what I understand, they'll be doing a couple of weekly games during the regular season as well as some minor-league games and coverage of the World Baseball Classic) but I really could do without the Yankee/Yankee stadium slobber-fest that's apparently kicking off the innaugural week.

The second day was all Red Sox!

re: #182 littleoldlady

Spare O'Lake! :-)
Love them!
How do you imbed a video like that?
/I musta been on vacation...

You copy the URL of the video, and then paste it right into the comment box. You don't use the link button at all.

re: #186 baconeatingkaffir

Ah, pretty much what I thought. Now: Russia. My understanding is that Turkey has been at least somewhat affected by the gas cut off. What are the the general feelings of Turks toward Russia?

And for those of you not completely put to sleep by my #166, the Utah Railway took those rare, experimental CATepillar powered-locomotives, gutted them and re-engined them with engines from some SD50s...

SD50s are actually pretty common and generally manufactured by EMD of LaGrange, IL or London, Ontario; Except for the batch that Utah got their hands on.

The designation also applies to five locomotives built by EMD Australian licensee Clyde Engineering for Hamersley Iron. These were also shorter than production SD50s, and were equipped with a special double cab roof for insulation against the hot Australian desert sun. When withdrawn from Hamersley Iron service, they were sold to National Railway Equipment Company and exported to the U.S. in February 1999 and used in national lease service. They were subsequently sold to the Utah Railway in June 2001, where they remain.

So from north-western Australia to Utah in their lifetimes- that's some pretty hostile mileage these Clyde-manufactured SD50Ss have logged.

re: #174 littleoldlady

Matrix! :-)

Not too many people here to witness. ;-)

Fenway! :-)

I've missed you...The other end of the coffee table is open for your dining and dancing pleasure...:)

So I get back from a really cool goth night -- got pulled onto the dance floor for waltzing when the DJ played a song in 3/4 -- and Drudge still has the link to Bush being an undercover DemoLib up. I know there's only a few days left, but I've decided to give in to the glory of BDS. Aside from a half-assed effort to explain why we're in Irack and Afganistan, and tax cuts, Bush has succeeded in destroying the viability of Conservatism as a governing philosophy and the Republican party as the carrier of it. A lot of you make fun of The Little Bambino for his "uhhh"s on the stump, but my god, in the internet age you can't have a president as inarticulate as Bush. I looked into his soul and saw gibberish. Well, every cloud has its silver lining and from the looks of things tonight, corsets are making a comeback on women. Hey kids, this is kinda like how it was going from Nixon to Ford to Carter, but worse.

re: #188 TheMatrix31

WHAT!? And nobody told me!?

I do know that they poached Hazel Mae from NESN.

re: #189 Spare O'Lake

Aha! Thank you very much!

I met a guy at a goth club in M:unchen (Munich, for you appeasers) last year. He told me that he spent 6 months working at the BMW plant in So. Car. a few years ago -- fucking loved it. Even drives a Dodge! Well, he also told me that he's jealous of America because in Europe, your life is essentially programmed for you. Sure, it's not a police state, but you don't have a lot of flexibility with where you want to take your life. You get your 6 weeks vacation and you shut the fuck up.

re: #195 littleoldlady

Aha! Thank you very much!

[Video]

waving...

re: #192 Dustyvet

Dustyvet! :-)

re: #190 wahabicorridor

Ah, pretty much what I thought. Now: Russia. My understanding is that Turkey has been at least somewhat affected by the gas cut off. What are the the general feelings of Turks toward Russia?

The turks and russians have historically hated each other. If I recall shortly after the founding of th Turkish Republic Ataturk and the new Repç government conned the Soviets out of several billion dollars in gold. However the turkish-russia hostilities go further back than that.
These days Turkey and Russia do a great deal of trade. Alot of the textiles and machinary manufactured here goes to russia and Central Asia. There are more than enogh Russian tourists and hookers here. The gas pipeline problem seems to be slving itself. I read in one of the news papers yesterday that they are going to try to pump gas to turkey via Central Asia.

re: #194 Fenway_Nation

WHAT!? And nobody told me!?

I do know that they poached Hazel Mae from NESN.

Yep, it's really cool. Love this channel, even though I hate your Sox. It's gonna make me sick seeing Smoltzie in a Red Sox uniform, although you guys have more of a shot for a ring so I understand his decision.

re: #193 SFGoth

So I get back from a really cool goth night -- got pulled onto the dance floor for waltzing when the DJ played a song in 3/4 -- and Drudge still has the link to Bush being an undercover DemoLib up. I know there's only a few days left, but I've decided to give in to the glory of BDS. Aside from a half-assed effort to explain why we're in Irack and Afganistan, and tax cuts, Bush has succeeded in destroying the viability of Conservatism as a governing philosophy and the Republican party as the carrier of it. A lot of you make fun of The Little Bambino for his "uhhh"s on the stump, but my god, in the internet age you can't have a president as inarticulate as Bush. I looked into his soul and saw gibberish. Well, every cloud has its silver lining and from the looks of things tonight, corsets are making a comeback on women. Hey kids, this is kinda like how it was going from Nixon to Ford to Carter, but worse.

Why the pessimism?
The philosophy of personal integrity, hard work and individual responsibility in achieving goals did not become evil because an election was lost. It just means that the conservative movement has to find an articulate spokesman to communicate them to the nation.

re: #200 TheMatrix31
Smoltz going to the Red Sox... good lord... the Red Sox are really going after the geriatric generation.
Who next... Phil Neikro?

re: #195 littleoldlady

You are very welcome.

re: #200 TheMatrix31

Yep, it's really cool. Love this channel, even though I hate your Sox. It's gonna make me sick seeing Smoltzie in a Red Sox uniform, although you guys have more of a shot for a ring so I understand his decision.

My understanding is that the Braves considered him too much of an injury risk and didn't want Smoltz back. After picking up Smoltz, Brad Penny and Rocco Baldelli, I would love to hear some of these dumbf*cks try and make the case that the Red Sox are the 'new Yankees' (especially after getting outspent by Detroit, the Mets, Yankees and Angels last year).

re: #199 baconeatingkaffir

They conned the Russkies out of gold? BWAHAHAHAHA! I'm going to have to research that one.

I was telling my husband about the Michael Yon piece that talked about how the Lithuanians are putting the fear of god in the Taliban. He told me: Guess who scared the shit out of the Koreans and the Chinese in the Korean War? The Turks. They'd just fucking fix bayonets and impale those poor bastards.

re: #204 Fenway_Nation

My understanding is that the Braves considered him too much of an injury risk and didn't want Smoltz back. After picking up Smoltz, Brad Penny and Rocco Baldelli, I would love to hear some of these dumbf*cks try and make the case that the Red Sox are the 'new Yankees' (especially after getting outspent by Detroit, the Mets, Yankees and Angels last year).

I don't mind teams spending money when they have it. All three pickups are extremely high-reward players if things go right.

Anyways, I'm going to go cry myself to sleep. Fuck Jim Leyritz.

re: #196 SFGoth

Well, he also told me that he's jealous of America because in Europe, your life is essentially programmed for you. Sure, it's not a police state, but you don't have a lot of flexibility with where you want to take your life. You get your 6 weeks vacation and you shut the fuck up.

So did he stay here?

re: #171 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Fruit cups give me flautulence and the runs... I have IBS, made worse during periods of emotional upset. (actually I am making this up).

Good morning, how are you?

re: #206 TheMatrix31

Big if- Red Sox tend to overpopulate their starting pitching anyway as insurance (Bartolo Colon, anyone?).

re: #208 shanec99

Fruit cups give me flautulence and the runs... I have IBS, made worse during periods of emotional upset. (actually I am making this up).

Good morning, how are you?

shanec99! :-)

I'm great!

/I'm making this up, too...

re: #209 Fenway_Nation

Big if- Red Sox tend to overpopulate their starting pitching anyway as insurance (Bartolo Colon, anyone?).

Not everyone can be fat boy Colon!

re: #208 shanec99

Fruit cups give me flautulence and the runs... I have IBS, made worse during periods of emotional upset. (actually I am making this up).

Good morning, how are you?

I was gonna say...four years of Irritable Bowels Syndrome?

re: #203 Spare O'Lake

You are very welcome.

You, too! :-)

/just learned NOT to use the quote function when there's an embedded video...

re: #208 shanec99

Fruit cups give me flautulence and the runs...

Fruit cups can do that, especially if they are made in China.

re: #211 TheMatrix31

I kinda wish Kotsay and Byrd stayed- both filed for free-agency. Kotsay was a much better infielder than anticipated.

Fruit Cup!

I'm reviewing...

re: #210 littleoldlady
What is wrong?

I hope that whatever ails you will soon go away. Hope its not serious.

re: #214 Spare O'Lake

Fruit cups can do that, especially if they are made in China.

Especially is you have the fruit cups with cereal in the morning and the milk from the cereal was from China.

re: #219 shanec99

Especially is you have the fruit cups with cereal in the morning and the milk from the cereal was from China.

To much curry in the corn flakes again?...:)

Whoops...maybe I spoke too soon re: Mark Kotsay

re: #220 Dustyvet

To much curry in the corn flakes again?...:)

No... prefer my curry on chicken, with shrimps or with goat... curry on cornflakes... a pox on you. You reprobate.

This is what I dread ... living in a world where I am forced to tell lies.

I think I'd drink hemlock first.

re: #222 shanec99

No... prefer my curry on chicken, with shrimps or with goat... curry on cornflakes... a pox on you. You reprobate.

Blame Peter Sellers, he started it... see first few moments of video...:)

re: #223 Tigger2005

Hemlock? Is that a new energy drink?

re: #223 Tigger2005

This is what I dread ... living in a world where I am forced to tell lies.

I think I'd drink hemlock first.

Well I would just pursue a career in Journalism or Law... you can be respectable there, especially if you can fabricate a good story to fit a theory.

re: #224 Dustyvet

Blame Peter Sellers, he started it... see first few moments of video...:)

Youtube Video

Cant watch video... limited band width

re: #227 shanec99

Cant watch video... limited band width

Oh well, Sellers uses the line To much curry on my corn flakes this morning...while examining Bob Hope.

re: #225 Fenway_Nation

Hemlock? Is that a new energy drink?

Well if we could convince the suicide bombers of this... then you might be on to something.
It could be an ironic case of drinking Hemlock and saving lives.

re: #60 spirochete
Please don't look in my closet I swear there aren't any captrured terrorists being tortured. There are just a few closet gnomes practicing on some store mannakins for when their gittmo applications get approved.

re: #230 Rustler

Please don't look in my closet I swear there aren't any captrured terrorists being tortured. There are just a few closet gnomes practicing on some store mannakins for when their gittmo applications get approved.

Mind your water bill...:) They can get silly in water boarding training...

re: #205 wahabicorridor

They conned the Russkies out of gold? BWAHAHAHAHA! I'm going to have to research that one.

I was telling my husband about the Michael Yon piece that talked about how the Lithuanians are putting the fear of god in the Taliban. He told me: Guess who scared the shit out of the Koreans and the Chinese in the Korean War? The Turks. They'd just fucking fix bayonets and impale those poor bastards.

Back when I was living in my wife's hometown, I used to go to a particjlar bakkal (corner store) to buy my beer. the owner was a korean war vet. He was missing half of his ring finger on his left hand. I asked him what happened and he told me that the Chinese overran their position one night and he played dead to escape and during that time some chinamen cut the top of his finger off to get his gold ring. Said if it hadnt been so cold he would have bled to death. I asked his nephew because I thought it was b.s. turkish machoness but his nephew backed it up.
I think the North Koreans captured maybe 20 turks and they tried to use an armenian communist as a translator but he somehow got strangled. It really is an interesting subject how the Korean War influenced the Turkish military and Turkey as a whole.

re: #230 Rustler

Please don't look in my closet I swear there aren't any captrured terrorists being tortured. There are just a few closet gnomes practicing on some store mannakins for when their gittmo applications get approved.

Darn... why dont you just buy them a few suicide belts and tell them to practice using them, so that they will be sure to use them properly when the opportunity presents itself?

re: #232 baconeatingkaffir
Pulled into Antalya, Turkey in the 90s, they refer to it as the Turkish Riviera. Good lord... a Muslim country where the girls hang out on the beach in Bikinis... the girls we breathtakingly beautiful.

The Turkish Military don't mess around regarding doing anything that threatens Ataturk's secular legacy... and please don't do anything that can be interpreted as disrespectful to his memory.

re: #233 shanec99

Darn... why dont you just buy them a few suicide belts and tell them to practice using them, so that they will be sure to use them properly when the opportunity presents itself?

Could those infamous Jinns from the Koran and Hadith actually be closet gnomes?

Does your Dog Bite?

re: #234 shanec99

Pulled into Antalya, Turkey in the 90s, they refer to it as the Turkish Riviera. Good lord... a Muslim country where the girls hang out on the beach in Bikinis... the girls we breathtakingly beautiful.

The Turkish Military don't mess around regarding doing anything that threatens Ataturk's secular legacy... and please don't do anything that can be interpreted as disrespectful to his memory.

Yeah. I have been here for 10 years now. Actually12 if you count my time here when I was in the military. Ataturk is quite the man. I think I am a secret kemalist. Ithink he realized that only rabid nationalism could replace Islamism.

re: #231 Dustyvet
They have access to a rain barrel and all the water is saved for subsequent training.

re: #235 baconeatingkaffir

Could those infamous Jinns from the Koran and Hadith actually be closet gnomes?

If the Jihns from the Koran and Hadith were actually closet gnomes... then Larry Hagman would have had nightmares of Jeannie.

re: #233 shanec99
Because the gnomes are having a lot of fun with the mannekins and they are really lifelike. Plus keeping the gnomes occupied means they stop hiding my things.

re: #232 baconeatingkaffir

they tried to use an armenian communist as a translator but he somehow got strangled.

I hate it when that happens.

Do you know of any English-language books on Turkish history/culture I could get my hands on? I'm older than dirt and I've meet only one Turk in my entire life. I find these people fascinating.

Yeah but what about the sock gnomes and writing utensil gnomes?

re: #237 baconeatingkaffir

Yeah. I have been here for 10 years now. Actually12 if you count my time here when I was in the military. Ataturk is quite the man. I think I am a secret kemalist. Ithink he realized that only rabid nationalism could replace Islamism.

He may be right... some Islamists want to change his ideals... regarding Hijab etc. I don't think the Turkish military is gonna put up with it though.

re: #238 Rustler

They have access to a rain barrel and all the water is saved for subsequent training.

Oh cools, great planning in your training program...:) My lads just flooded out the apartment below me, and the one under that one.

re: #241 wahabicorridor

I hate it when that happens.

Do you know of any English-language books on Turkish history/culture I could get my hands on? I'm older than dirt and I've meet only one Turk in my entire life. I find these people fascinating.

Lord Kinross di quite good work on books about Ataturk and the Ottomans. Andre Mangold most recently wrote a biography of Ataturk. I'll ask at my university what they're using in te history department. Click on the email and drop me a line

The Turkish Military don't mess around regarding doing anything that threatens Ataturk's secular legacy...

Track record of killing commies- check.
Serves as 'circut-breaker' for democratic government against sharia creep- check.
NATO member- check.

I think the lefties have found a new 'bad guy' military to demonize whenever they get bored with slandering the U.S. Military or IDF.

/Altho' there is that whole 'Invasion of Cyprus' thing...

re: #242 baconeatingkaffir

Yeah but what about the sock gnomes and writing utensil gnomes?

I hate sock gnomes... a sock puppet is a sock gnome with cyber skills.

Sock gnomes eveolved from writing utensil gnomes... but they were ineffective... and eventually died out and were replaced by sock gnomes.

re: #234 shanec99

the girls we breathtakingly beautiful.

Our adopted soldier is at Camp Bucca, Iraq. I sent him Michael Yon's story on the Lithuanians. Turns out there are Lithuanians at Camp Bucca and some of them are women. He swears they are the most beautiful females he's ever laid eyes on.

re: #240 Rustler

Because the gnomes are having a lot of fun with the mannekins and they are really lifelike. Plus keeping the gnomes occupied means they stop hiding my things.

I recommend giving them suicide belts and locking them in a ballistically reinforced concrete structure... pretty soon they will ... you know... and no one worthwhile will be hurt...

re: #249 shanec99
But I like my closet gnomes, they are a little upset that we haven't gotten a shipment on mannekins recently.

re: #248 wahabicorridor

Our adopted soldier is at Camp Bucca, Iraq. I sent him Michael Yon's story on the Lithuanians. Turns out there are Lithuanians at Camp Bucca and some of them are women. He swears they are the most beautiful females he's ever laid eyes on.

Where is Camp Bucca?... I never got there when I was in Iraq... but I was mostly in the Baghdad area... I was attached to a MiTT out of the RSU in Taji.

re: #250 Rustler
And I'd never give the Mannekins a suicide belt that just takes away from the gnomes fun.

re: #250 Rustler
Gnomes remind me of bad (spoiled) kids with ugly, rich parents.

Another nice thing about Closet Gnomes is there rabid fear of Cameras. You won't find a CG taking or in a compromising picture.

re: #253 shanec99
Mine are vicious twisted things adapt at wringing confessions outta Mannekins without leaving telltale marks.

You should google the Ergenekon affair. The Islamist government here is trying to play with the military. Its like they are trying to consoldiate power. The last Commander of the Turkish armed forces was pretty wimpy towards them. Rumor had it that he and his wife were paid off. The new guy is pretty hardcore. I like the way he doesnt smile when he meest with them. The AKP government is being taken to task over 6 million non existant people from nonexistant streets who "voted" for them.
The whole headscarf thing was firt overturned by the AKP government but then the supreme court rejected it. Still the scarfies wear the damn thing to my classes. These peole are such geniuses. They wanted to ban alcohol in tourist areas. The only good thing they've done is make it difficult or impossible for foreigners without turkish residency to buy property here. I get bored of drunk europeans

re: #252 Rustler
Gnomes eventually evolve into beings that pray five times a day, set fires to cars in Paris, and engage in Jihad all the while hoping to get to Paradise so they can have 72 virgins.
I don't trust them, you had better be careful that they dont turn on you like the Gremlins.

re: #257 shanec99

Gnomes eventually evolve into beings that pray five times a day, set fires to cars in Paris, and engage in Jihad all the while hoping to get to Paradise so they can have 72 virgins.
I don't trust them, you had better be careful that they dont turn on you like the Gremlins.

Like dont feed them pork after midnight?