CNN's Staged Video Update: Let's See the Uncut Footage

CNN’s Staged Video Update: Let’s See the Uncut Footage

Charles Johnson

Middle EastJanuary 2009 • Views: 2,975

A good point about the disputed CNN Gaza hospital video, from Richard Landes: Let’s See Mr. Mashharawi’s Rushes.

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134 comments

Buster Bunny Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:02:20pm

All the news thats fit to fake. 24 hours a day. News you didnt need to hear.

Thats the professionalism of CNNs award winning set of 'journalists'

Pure Pali Propaganda.

Spiny Norman Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:03:42pm

We'll probably see it when Charlse Enderlin lets us see the uncut Mohammed al-Dura uncut video...

wrenchwench Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:04:06pm

That's why Mr. Martin is coming, isn't it? He's bringing them to us?

Spiny Norman Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:04:28pm

*Charles Enderlin, rather.

jcm Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:04:49pm

Never happen.

Sharmuta Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:04:50pm

Note that CNN did not consult a doctor on this one, but Martin’s experience in Gaza.

That's a key point, because cnn didn't really do anything but dodge the issue.

Kragar Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:04:54pm

What rushes? I'm betting CNN just took the edited clips straight from Gaza and never saw the full video

kansas Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:05:24pm

Someone who can settle this once and for all.............Pat Buchannan. /

Racer X Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:05:31pm

Still waiting on the L.A. Times to release their video of the dinner with Obama and Rashid Khalidi.

Neither one will see the light of day.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:05:54pm

24 seconds into the video clip, holmes.gaza.boy.cnn_576x324_dl.flv, there is a brief flash of the boys leg wound, which appears to be a 6 inch gash to the calf. Note that there is no blood stain on the sheet directly under it.

Kragar Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:06:49pm

Somali pirates drown as they flee with ransom

SIX Somali pirates who hijacked a Saudi supertanker drowned with their share of the ransom when their boat capsized as it left the vessel, their leader said yesterday.

Four others were missing with their share of the $3m payoff, which been parachuted on to the tanker on Friday, Mohamed Said said by phone from the port of Harardhere.

“The small boat that was carrying those killed and eight who survived was overloaded . . . they were afraid of a chase from outsiders [foreign navies of the combined maritime forces],” he said.

Mohamud Aden, a resident of the port off which the tanker had been anchored watched by the warships, said: “The capsize was an accident. The pirates were full of joy and partially frightened by the presence of foreign war machines and were speeding. That was a tragedy for the pirates.”

faraway Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:06:59pm

re: #9 Racer X

Still waiting on the L.A. Times to release their video of the dinner with Obama and Rashid Khalidi.

Neither one will see the light of day.

More evidence that the MSM has learned to thumb its nose at blogs.

They won. We are just barking chihuahuas.

kansas Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:07:20pm

OT
If you wanted to damage the US economy, could you do a better job than to have the President of the US come out and make a speech that sounded like Obama's?

jcm Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:08:04pm

re: #7 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

What rushes? I'm betting CNN just took the edited clips straight from Gaza and never saw the full video

Not gonna' take that bet. They took the prepared story and aired it. Just like the school bombing, just like the mosques. CNN will lap up anything the Pali's puke on their desks.

Sharmuta Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:08:13pm

re: #12 faraway

More evidence that the MSM has learned to thumb its nose at blogs.

They won. We are just barking chihuahuas.

Tell that to dan rather.

Buster Bunny Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:08:19pm

re: #13 kansas

OT
If you wanted to damage the US economy, could you do a better job than to have the President of the US come out and make a speech that sounded like Obama's?

No.

MandyManners Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:08:45pm

Has anyone found a biography of Paul Martin?

pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:08:54pm

Never gonna see them.

I'm sure Mashharawi would rather walk up to the Erez Crossing, cut off his own balls and hand them to the nearest Israeli border guard.

Racer X Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:09:07pm

The bigger picture: Why would a major news outlet NOT investigate whether they - and us - had been duped by someone who clearly has an agenda.

More pressure needs to be applied to CNN with calls for expert analysis of the tape. As they squirm they will expose themselves for what they are - BIASED.

jcm Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:09:17pm

re: #11 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

OT

Somali pirates drown as they flee with ransom

Breaks your heart don't it!
/not

faraway Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:09:38pm

re: #15 Sharmuta

Tell that to dan rather.

CBS made the mistake of listening to blogs. They removed Rather.

They have learned to ignore blogs now.

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:10:03pm

rushes? come on'. these guys are so good they don't have to edit anything. There film start to finish is exactly as seen on TV.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:10:04pm

re: #19 Racer X

This is much worse than bias, it's an outright fake.

Ojoe Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:10:08pm

Rushes indeed. And I think the standard journalism still camera should have two lenses, one you can zoom, and the other a 180 degree fish eye, and always the two images printed.

I don't believe them at all anymore.

Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:10:10pm

I may be wrong. This may be genuine footage. I am open to being convinced so. But let us see the evidence.

Bravo. I'm very willing to admit that I'm wrong if they provide evidence. Paul Martin seems eager to convince us so it should be no problem for him to provide the unedited tapes shot that day.

pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:10:56pm

re: #11 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

That was a tragedy for the pirates

But the ecology is better off.
Sharks are better fed.

/just trying to be PC about it

Sharmuta Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:10:59pm

re: #21 faraway

That's why Paul Martin contacted Charles, huh? Because he's ignoring us?

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:10:59pm

Is Cognito still around?

Dr. Shalit Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:11:14pm

Lizardim -

"ROHSHES, ha ha ha, WE ARE CNN - We Don't NEED No Steenking ROHSHES!"

-S-

Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:11:34pm

re: #26 pre-Boomer Marine brat

But the ecology is better off.
~~Sharks~~ Sea Kittens are better fed.

/just trying to be PC about it

fixed that for ya!

ArmyWife Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:11:38pm

re: #12 faraway

I disagree. If we were "barking chihuahuas" this wouldn't have gone viral the way it has, nor would Paul Martin head to the chihuahua den as he seems to be doing.

They haven't won, they haven't even been able to declare a battle victory. My proof? Their current financial status and their continual bleeding of customers.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:11:53pm

There's enough evidence in the existing video. Look at the lack of head wounds, blood, bandages, edema.

Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:12:14pm

re: #7 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
CNN doesn't have them and they didn't even ask for them in thier defence of the story but Paul Martin edited the piece so he should have access and Mashharawi certainly has them.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:13:10pm

This cadaver did not suffer from schrapnel wounds to the head, as the hospital administrator claimed.

jcm Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:13:39pm

re: #32 tsionguy

There's enough evidence in the existing video. Look at the lack of head wounds, blood, bandages, edema.

Also the roof, the complete lack of anything resembling a missile strike.

pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:13:47pm

Roosters again on the GazaCam!

wakeupie!
WakeUPie!
Time to wake up!

/[better self-delete what I was going to add here]

Render Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:14:25pm

So why was the British CH4 video edited differently from the version that CNN ran with?

EH?,
R

pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:14:30pm

re: #28 ggt

Is Cognito still around?

Was yesterday.

ArmyWife Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:14:42pm

re: #19 Racer X

I think CNN knows they are biased and don't have an issue with being so - they think anyone worth their salt thinks as they do. With that, it is their absolute arrogance that will bite them on hind quarters this time.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:15:09pm

re: #35 jcm

If the blood stains on the roof were genuine, then the schrapnel would have at least torn off some limbs or large pieces of flesh.

MJ Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:15:13pm

Hmmm,

Peter Arnett worked for them.

Are these the people responsible for the phony Jenin Massacre?

"It exposed the real casualty figures in Jenin..."
From their website:

[Link: www.worldnf.tv...]

ArmyWife Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:15:31pm

re: #36 pre-Boomer Marine brat

resend the link, please? I closed it out in my Raven's celebration. Sorry. I was excited.

Ojoe Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:16:26pm

re: #40 tsionguy

shrapnel

ArmyWife Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:16:36pm

re: #42 ArmyWife

Nevermind, pre-Boomer.

Thank you, Charles!

jaunte Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:16:52pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

The original tapes have reason to feel nervous right about now.

reine.de.tout Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:16:53pm

re: #42 ArmyWife

resend the link, please? I closed it out in my Raven's celebration. Sorry. I was excited.

Gaza Live 1

Gaza Live 2

They actually pretty much show the same view.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:17:25pm

re: #43 Ojoe

I could have said "oedema."

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:17:46pm

All Points Bulletin for Self-Haters. The wretched Naomi Klein's latest bilefest:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

She gets turned on by Jews dying.

NomadOfNorad Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:18:13pm

Another new thread? After only a few minutes on this one?!? :D :D :D :D

jcm Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:18:32pm

re: #40 tsionguy

If the blood stains on the roof were genuine, then the schrapnel would have at least torn off some limbs or large pieces of flesh.

I have been unable to find a missile in any reports on IAF/IDF inventories small enough to cause the damage we see. Everything is bigger, and wouldn't have left much of anything.

winston06 Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:19:09pm

Even if it wasn't fake (which I certainly believe it is) won't change my mind about Gazan terrorists and their colleagues within CNN. Moreover, CNN has proven to us where it always stands: with terrorists. In Iraq, Somalia, Iran, North Korea, Europe....

CNN is a major terrorist network if you ask me

ArmyWife Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:21:54pm

re: #46 reine.de.tout

Thank you!

pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:22:24pm

re: #42 ArmyWife

resend the link, please? I closed it out in my Raven's celebration. Sorry. I was excited.

Here

MJ Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:23:34pm

They apparently produced a BBC anti-Israel, Pro-Hamas program. Get a load of this howler:

"Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement calls for the establishment of an Islamic state, but their approach is more softly-softly, rather than a forced overnight conversion."

Oh brother.

Here's the program Martin was the producer for in cooperation with his Hamas media front group:

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

jaunte Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:23:52pm

re: #50 jcm

Did you see this shot of Kassam damage to roadway?
(Scroll down to the 7th photo)
[Link: www.boston.com...]

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:24:41pm

Is Paul Martin a BBC correspondent and terrorist insider?

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

[Link: www.worldnf.tv...]

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:25:28pm

48 seconds into the video, the cadaver's body is wrapped in the uppermost bed sheet. There are no blood stains visible anywhere on the sheet, while there is a conspicuous stain on the bedding directly under the sheet. Very fishy.

Bubblehead II Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:26:23pm

re: #28 ggt

Unfortunately. But it seems to be keeping its head down lately. Perhaps getting hit over the head with a clue bat has taught it to be a bot more circumspect . Either that, or the blatant disregard of (C)hicken (N)oodle (N)ews for broadcasting blatantly faked video has even disgusted it.

Nah///////////////////////////

OtingoC where are you?

Vicious Babushka Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:26:58pm

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the video was not staged and that a kid was really killed: what kind of freaking idiots let their kids play on the rooftop while bombing is going on all around?

Kids in Sderot do not play on rooftops, or in playgrounds, or anywhere but in bomb shelters.

winston06 Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:28:33pm

re: #59 Alouette

well said

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:30:16pm

More Paul martin

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

[Link: www.journalisted.com...]

[Link: www.arabmediawatch.com...]

wrenchwench Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:31:34pm

re: #41 MJ

Hmmm,

Peter Arnett worked for them.

Are these the people responsible for the phony Jenin Massacre?

"It exposed the real casualty figures in Jenin..."
From their website:

[Link: www.worldnf.tv...]

From that link:

WORLD NEWS & FEATURES cannot be branded either as left-wing or right- wing, nor is it pro or anti any side in a conflict: it is just dedicated to finding out as much as can be uncovered. It is "pro" telling it as it is.
WORLD NEWS & FEATURES - Making a WORLD of Difference!

Anytime they brag about making a difference, you know they are pro- or anti- something. How dumb do they think everybody else is?

NomadOfNorad Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:31:55pm

re: #59 Alouette

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the video was not staged and that a kid was really killed: what kind of freaking idiots let their kids play on the rooftop while bombing is going on all around?

Kids in Sderot do not play on rooftops, or in playgrounds, or anywhere but in bomb shelters.

Maybe he was trying to retrieve his scared, petrified pet kitten, who'd gone all deer-in-the-headlights up there on the roof...

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Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:31:58pm

#59. The parents would have sent the kids down to the bomb shelters but the shelters were full of the Hamas leaders. Why save women and children when the courageous Zohar, Haniyeh and their cronies are watching pornos and picking the wings off flies.

MJ Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:32:54pm

re: #59 Alouette

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the video was not staged and that a kid was really killed: what kind of freaking idiots let their kids play on the rooftop while bombing is going on all around?

Kids in Sderot do not play on rooftops, or in playgrounds, or anywhere but in bomb shelters.

They choose to build tunnels to smuggle in weapons in order to kill Israelis, any Israelis....rather than build a bomb shelter.

Besides, assuming the kid was killed, it says nothing about the circumstances surrounding his death.

mattm Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:34:40pm

The NBC evening news had a segment on The 0ne's environmental plan. I was shocked when then never interviewed a critic, just GreenPeace.

/sarc

MJ Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:35:06pm

re: #62 wrenchwench

Anytime they brag about making a difference, you know they are pro- or anti- something. How dumb do they think everybody else is?

I think the news services which contract with this Hamas media front group know exactly what they are getting. It's little wonder that the two major anti-Israel networks, the BBC and CNN both apparently contract with them.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:37:12pm

At 48.25 seconds into the video, there is a brief glimpse of blood on the sheet used to wrap the cadaver. It is a small patch about 2 inches across, and it does not match the size of the blood stain on the bed, which is at least 6-8 inches across. Also, the stain on the bed is the color of fresh, bright red blood, while the stain on the sheet is the color of darker, old blood.
I say they used an older cadaver to stage the video.

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:37:54pm

Iran pays well though with falling oil prices hopefully they won't be able to fund their Hamas and Hezbollah subsidiaries as well. Madoff should have been pushing his fund to the Iranians (he could have told them its a way around the sanctions).

BigMoo Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:38:32pm

Please, this is no time for rational, empirical thought about the disputed video, it's time to get raw nerved emotional, rend your garments, burn some cars and believe every image presented to you.
Best regards,
Hamas

NomadOfNorad Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:39:58pm

re: #66 mattm

The NBC evening news had a segment on The 0ne's environmental plan. I was shocked when then never interviewed a critic, just GreenPeace.

/sarc

Neo was on NBC news? Were Trinity and Morpheus there, too?

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Confuzed Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:40:04pm

CNN:
Fabricate and Authenticate.

Charles opened up a major can of whoop-*ss on CNN and they can't get the lid back on.

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:40:21pm

#70 the Hamas message has gone out to their supporters. If you have Facebook you should link to some of the Islamic sites and people. The Neteruri Kartei guys are getting some Muslim action under the niqab tonight.

buzzdroid Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:41:33pm

this whole episode reminds me of why CNN are called CNN..

Contains No News

seriously - watch an hour of CNN .. you'd be lucky to get about 5 minutes of actual REAL news about stuff going on in the world.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:42:01pm

At 1:36,10 in the video, you can clearly see the left side of the cadaver's face. Clearly no trauma there, either.

BigMoo Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:42:11pm

re: #73 Truth Dr.

Pretty sad, isn't it ? But then the Gaza operation is surprisingly similar to the 'Global Warming' campaign, we're supposed to believe what we're told about it...and question nothing...

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:42:36pm

The Islamonazis like Rick Sanchez because he apparently said that Israel violated the ceasefire first (on November 4).

BigMoo Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:42:55pm

re: #74 buzzdroid

Lew Dobbs seems ok-but he's clearly the 'token'.

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:44:03pm

Are the Fatahs killed by Hamas during the operation included in the Pali death count? How about Palis killed by Hamas misfires?

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:44:30pm

From CNN's denial story:
"Raafat Hamdouna, administrative director at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, said Friday that "Mahmoud Khalil Mashharawi, a 12-year-old, was brought to the hospital, and he was breathing, but he was hit in the head and all over his body by shrapnel. He died later in the hospital. He was treated by the Norwegian team. When he was brought in, he was breathing. The team did their best to save him. I am not really sure if they even tried to rush him to the surgery room, because he was badly hurt."

The description is completely inconsistent with the images in the video.

buzzdroid Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:45:39pm

sky news : just showed video released by UNICEF of "crying palestinian children"..

no surprises there so.

which reminds me - what benefit does Israel get from being a member of the United Nations?

because as far as i can see, the UN is actively working for the destruction of Israel.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:46:56pm

re: #81 buzzdroid

Ehud Olmert is also actively working for the destruction of Israel.

Lincolntf Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:47:00pm

re: #80 tsionguy

All yer lies iz belong to us.

BigMoo Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:47:10pm

re: #79 Truth Dr.

Naw, that's all Israel's fault too...after all, none of this would have been necessary if Israel had just sat there and taken the rocket fire-like any civilized nation should....

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:47:54pm

re: #83 Lincolntf

I waive all copyrights to said lies.

Kenneth Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:48:39pm

Charles,

It's good to see you haven't let this staged video issue slip away. However, there is more fake in the story than just the hospital scene. The apartment blast scene is fake too. The filmmaker repeated claims the deaths of the two boys were the result of a missile or rocket fired from an Israeli drone which deliberately targeted the children. There are a number of problems with that claim.

First, the blast damage is in no way consistant with a missile stike. The missiles fired from drones produce a penetrating blast followed by intensely hot fire. This is because they are used to destroy cars, trucks or whole buildings. Yet the apartment blast scene shows a very small impact and a bit of sharpnel. There was no fire. If a missile had hit that building, a large part of it would have been destroyed. Yet, the building is still in fine shape with a few superficial chips in the cement. Some puny missile?

Secondly, these missiles are expensive. The IDF uses them to hit high value targets. They don't waste them on 2 children.

Either the children were killed by Hamas, who is then trying to blame Israel, or even the deaths were faked. The whole video is bogus. Time to call them on the fake blast scene as well.

Lincolntf Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:49:20pm

Oops. All their lies iz belong to us.

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:50:16pm

It's all very fishy and no one there to tell us the truth. Journalism has sunk to new lows with this war.

jcm Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:50:27pm

re: #55 jaunte

Did you see this shot of Kassam damage to roadway?
(Scroll down to the 7th photo)
[Link: www.boston.com...]

Interesting. The damage on the roof resembles that from a Kassam, without the scorching. Same little 4-8" pit.

An errant Kassam?

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:52:22pm

#89 Exactly the point. How many Pali civilian deaths were caused by Hamas misfires. How many children of Fatah have been murdered by Hamas?

Why is the MSM not bothered by screams of "Kill the Jews" at the Gaza protest rallies?

[deleted] Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:53:25pm

Heathen Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:54:29pm

I'm a physician. I have no idea of the circumstances surrounding the footage but I can tell you with 100% confidence that the two men wearing white coats are making no actual effort to resuscitate that patient. It's not that they are doing a bad job or lack the appropriate equipment they are faking it.

CPR is a last ditch effort to circulate oxygenated blood to the brain to prevent hypoxic injury while you attempt to restart the heart with drugs or a defibrillator.

1) No one is ventilating the patient. If you don't force oxygen into the lungs then chest compressions have no meaning. There is absolutely no use in circulating poorly oxygenated blood.

2) No one is actually performing chest compressions. One man is exagerrating his shoulder movements and lightly touching the patient (sometimes only with his fingertips) in what appears to be an attempt to simulate chest compressions. What he is doing will not circulate blood to the brain.

There are many other details that scream this is not an actual resuscitation attempt, but I won't bore you with them.

The fact that they are not actually performing chest compressions leads me to suspect the patient on the table is alive. One can actually perform CPR on a dead patient (some med students gain experience in this way) but it would be dangerous to actually perform CPR on a healthy patient.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:55:17pm

Hezbullah dug up cadavers in Lebanon to use as props in their fake news videos. Hamas appears to be using the same vile methods.

tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 5:58:25pm

re: #92 Heathen

I too am a doctor. If the boy's heart had recently stopped, which the only time chest compressions make any sense, then there should have active, profuse bleeding from every wound. Yet, the few wounds that are visible all appear dry.

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:00:28pm

I heard rumors that Jim Morrison was killed by the Israelis during the Gaza attacks. CNN will be showing video of the attempted resuscitation.

Bubbaman Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:00:32pm

The video as presented is a depiction of a staged resuscitation.

Bubbaman Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:02:53pm

Here is the refutation, Part I and Part II

Truth Dr. Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:03:15pm

Do they have videos of the resuscitation of the bunny from Hamas TV?

[deleted] Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:06:04pm

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[deleted] Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:08:37pm

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tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:09:56pm

At 0:17,07 in the video, Dr. Mads is pointing to the monitor, which appears to show flat lines. Ureka! The doctor has identified the problem!

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[deleted] Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:13:43pm

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[deleted] Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:17:17pm

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tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:22:48pm

At 1:36,09 in the video, when they are carrying the "lifeless body" of the dead boy, his face is exposed. This doesn't look like any of the other Arab burial ceremonies I have seen. Also, the facial skin tone of the deceased looks as healthy as that of the "pall bearers." Excellent makeup! Or maybe he's still alive?

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k80nc Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:41:29pm

Maybe CNN could ask Dr. Gupta to come on and explain these procedures to us.

I won't hold my breath.

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jhrhv Sat, Jan 10, 2009 6:51:23pm

While it is certainly sad that any child should get killed in a war zone. Given the Hamas, IJ and other terror orgs track records and that of the IDF & IAF I wonder if that kid wasn't on the roof with weapon of some sort. Or if there was some other reason that roof was a targeted.

As to the video even given the person shooting it is family and in that case would be rather distraught. He is still supposed to be a “professional camera man” again given the PalArab propensity to show blood and gore in their videos. Why are there almost no shots of the actual kid lying on the gurney, none of his face, none of the bloody body and only shots of these two guys in lab coats who aren't doing anything to treat him? Just saying.

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wiffersnapper Sat, Jan 10, 2009 7:05:59pm

I wouldn't have thought to do this! Great idea: Call the bastards out!

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NervyNews Sat, Jan 10, 2009 7:20:35pm

check out the sites and sounds of Toronto's hateful anti-Israel protest at HERE

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LEGION Sat, Jan 10, 2009 7:25:53pm

cnn communist news network who cares what they say- don't watch don't care.

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FredWM Sat, Jan 10, 2009 7:41:36pm

Let me make a prediction: We'll never see the rushes. What's in it for CNN? With no rushes they have a hope that this will all blow over as a "he said, she said" thing in a few days. With the rushes they have a chance of looking foolish. Where's the upside for CNN? The best they can hope for is that they are right, and that's what they are saying now. Of course, a journalist would want to know anyway. First, it’s the truth and second it would make a great story on its own. But CNN is not staffed by journalist. It's staffed by celebrities and people who want to make the world better for the sake of the children. And those sorts of people are much more interested in the greater truth. They are the people who believe in “fake but accurate” stories. In “larger truth” stories. So, once again I say no rushes.

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Unboldened Sat, Jan 10, 2009 7:43:36pm

re: #109 LEGION

cnn communist news network who cares what they say- don't watch don't care.

I agree with the sentiment, but have to play the counterpoint. =)

Here's a small article that is a sort of connect-the-dots tangent for smacking the MSM when it plays demagogue/provocateur... just a little experiment in group psychology.

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hazzyday Sat, Jan 10, 2009 8:12:04pm

Just think how much content on CNN is really just made up crap. Usually there is no one around to check them, and apparently internally they swing to a political agenda first before a fact agenda. Fake but accurate. Dan Rather has been over for coffee with Ted.

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tsionguy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 8:30:41pm

re: #110 FredWM

"larger fake truth"

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phillygirl Sat, Jan 10, 2009 8:34:36pm

This video is the same fake as the Lebanese children "killed" by Israeli troops. These savages dug the corpses of children out of the ground. Then there was the video of the guy who was "shot" who literally walked away when he thought the filming was over. Our biased MSM are like pawns for Hamas to manipulate on a chessboard. How could such lettered journalists be so blinded by Hamas and their cousins, Hezbollah? It's pretty pathetic.

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Throbert McGee Sat, Jan 10, 2009 8:37:06pm

¿Cómo se dice en árabe?: "The original uncut video footage accidentally got fed to the bad, bad dog, who ate it all up, and it is now irretrievably in his very bad and EXTREMELY HARAM tummy"?

However one says it по-арабски or auf Arabische, I've a feeling that CNN is gonna find out real soon!

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Throbert McGee Sat, Jan 10, 2009 8:45:27pm

Following up on my #115:

I can't understand why Muslims would be so averse to a species, namely Canis lupus familiaris, that will eagerly gobble up any and all incriminating evidence so long as you smear peanut butter or liver pâté on it.

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notutopia Sat, Jan 10, 2009 8:51:21pm

Show me the rushes. We are waiting for you (CNN) to
validate the authenticity of this film.
We are waiting Mr. Masharwarhi for your unedited film
rushes.
Prove us all wrong that this was not a staged resuscitation and highly edited film and exonerate yourselves.
We are waiting....

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swamprat Sat, Jan 10, 2009 8:52:50pm

If the "doctors" who perpetuated this fraud, are so inept at faking medical treatment, the question arises; are they really doctors?
Heaven help anyone who actually needs teatment at the hands of "the Norwegian Team!
While you peruse the channel 4 video, be sure to look at the splatter on the terrace wall. If you look carefully...well just look.

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mean Gene Sat, Jan 10, 2009 9:19:48pm

As I read more and more analysis I come to the conclusion that the family knew they were targets of IDF because of the web site run by the vidiographer.
They sent the boys to the roof as human shields.
Then one of Hamas' own Qassam's went awry and hit the roof.
Very little damage was done.
IF the boys died that is indeed sad.
What was filmed at the hospital was fake medical work, either for the family or for public consumption.
Thanks to #50 and 59 as well as every medical expert who has weighed in.

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PAUL72002 Sat, Jan 10, 2009 9:20:25pm

Just saw the video. How do they expect anyone to believe a missile exploded and killed two kids, but didn't damage the plastic chair next to the blast site?

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azkidney Sat, Jan 10, 2009 9:25:38pm

If Israel actually has weapons that kill people but does little damage to buildings maybe we should get some of those things.
But no. I've seen better acting on ER.

azkidney

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Wendya Sat, Jan 10, 2009 10:29:51pm

re: #105 k80nc

Maybe CNN could ask Dr. Gupta to come on and explain these procedures to us.

I won't hold my breath.

I won't either. He's too busy angling for the Surgeon General post to blow this story out of the water.

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rumcrook Sat, Jan 10, 2009 10:45:44pm

good G-d.

if we had cnn or the "reporters" we have now when we had to fight the nazis and germany we might very well might not have extinguished nazi germany. we might have let it live. we might have lost the will to fight on as the reporters worked hard to humanize goebbels and his family. a willing shill for an enemy spreading the propaganda.

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krazy Sat, Jan 10, 2009 11:10:42pm

it is very simple.... if it was a rocket attack, there wouldn't be any building left standing. Looking at the amount of blood that is left on the roof, it was most likely a sniper shot…. Could it be that reporter is trying to cover someone?

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Spiny Norman Sat, Jan 10, 2009 11:22:14pm

re: #124 krazy

it is very simple.... if it was a rocket attack, there wouldn't be any building left standing. Looking at the amount of blood that is left on the roof, it was most likely a sniper shot…. Could it be that reporter is trying to cover someone?

A Kassam that went awry?

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scrogg8144 Sat, Jan 10, 2009 11:26:33pm

I think at some point you will find this boy is very much alive.They went out of their way to obstruct his face,but in the scene where they are carrying the "lifeless" body to the grave he is holding the child with his one hand propping up the head and when the head falls back it appears to move on its own forward,just gotta play it like 50 times to see it.Just my 2 cents.

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SueG Sun, Jan 11, 2009 2:56:50am

re: #126 scrogg8144

I think at some point you will find this boy is very much alive.They went out of their way to obstruct his face,but in the scene where they are carrying the "lifeless" body to the grave he is holding the child with his one hand propping up the head and when the head falls back it appears to move on its own forward,just gotta play it like 50 times to see it.Just my 2 cents.

And you would definitely expect at least his name being mentioned in Arab press. But I could not find it. I searched his name in google in Arabic. I also searched his brothers name, but nothing of such a story came back.

If anyone knows an Arab source mentioning his death (from around the same date as the video was shot) and which is NOT the Arabic version of BBC or so, I'm happy to receive it.

This story for now is fishy. Very fishy.

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SueG Sun, Jan 11, 2009 3:00:11am

re: #92 Heathen

There are many other details that scream this is not an actual resuscitation attempt, but I won't bore you with them.

You are not!

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SueG Sun, Jan 11, 2009 3:10:52am

re: #17 MandyManners

Has anyone found a biography of Paul Martin?

No, but what I find of him is not much to worry about. He seems to do his work at best; he gets bothered the now and then but also has connections inside organizations. Well, a journalist is a journalist - so it is not weird that he has connections on a certain level.

The weird part of this whole story is that CNN let a journalist say that the video is genuine, while there are doubts on a medical level. A journalist is no doctor. Let an expert do the talking!

I'm curious to find out what Paul Martin has to say.

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Mike DeGuzman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 5:37:04am

Paul Martin finally posted his comments on Augean Stables:
[Link: www.theaugeanstables.com...]

13. WORLD NEWS & FEATURES, which has been operating in zones of conflict since 2001, is responsible for the supply of video material to a number of major television stations during this Gaza conflict, and we are very careful to ensure we work only with people we know and trust in the Gaza Strip. Ashraf Mashharawi is probably the most respected independent producer in the Gaza Strip. We have worked with him, and with his late brother Ahmed, an excellent cameraman, on and off there for at least five years, and throughout the Mashharawis have been fair and accurate. We would expect even the most objective Western journalist to be somewhat upset when he has to carry his own 12-year-old brother to hospital, fatally wounded by a rocket while playing on the roof of his own home. No-one in their right mind would suggest that any person would allow doctors to play games with a dying or dead younger brother. The idea is bizarre and deeply insulting, and actually damages the credibility of your blogger’s scrutiny of TV output in general - a scrutiny which in principle we would strongly applaud.

The tape, filmed by Ashraf’s cameraman, was fed to London and used by several outlets, without WNF itself actually having the facility to watch it beforehand. But having now done so we continue to stand by the complete genuineness of the footage. What is shown is just the very final stage of doctors’ failed efforts to save Mahmoud. I suppose the reason their effort as shown is so gentle is that they have already in effect concluded that it is futile. And I think your blogger’s understanding of TV is somewhat flawed in this respect: no-one would need to ‘dramatize’ any such death, gently or vigorously. The death itself and the fact that Ashraf’s cameraman had filmed all the PREVIOUS events, and the subsequent return to the home with the body, and the funeral, would have been dramatic enough… in fact the hospital post-death concluding effort by the doctor(s) in no way enhanced the power of the filming - if anything it weakened it… just a body lying there and Ashraf mourning over his dead brother’s lifeless corpse would have been more powerful.

So there is no logical reason to suspect that this doctor was playing to the camera (if so he would have bacted much more dramatically, of course) - let alone that Ashraf would have asked him to do so. The hospital has confirmed that Mahmoud Mashharawi, aged 12, was brought in still breathing but subsequently was pronounced dead. There is therefore not the slightest indication of any faking.

I think a decent apology to Ashraf might be in order.

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Mike DeGuzman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 5:37:19am

I might also add that trying to suggest Ashraf has some political agenda is also a false trail. He does not. He was (but is no longer) employed by a company that produced the .ps suffix, and just as anyone can sign up for a .com or a .info or a.tv suffix on payment of a small fee, so can anyone buy a .ps suffix - even Little Green Footballs. All Palestinians like the .ps suffix so anyone can sign up, including affiliates of Hamas. So what WNF has also used this company’s services, because it has a big US-based server that can contain a lot of video, and it is quite cheap! We are happy with this web hosting service - which has no influence at all on our editorial output - we can switch to any commercial provider whenever we wish. The fact that we have had both a personal and a commercial relationship with Ashraf Mashharawi is one good reason why we are relying ONLY on his services during this current conflict while I myself and our other people cannot enter Gaza itself. We have other Palestinians offering to work for us there but have turned all of them down so we can rely only on someone about whose integrity we have certainty.

Finally, an attempt was made by one of your bloggers to show that one of the doctors wanted to make a film with Ashraf. His brother, who died in a car crash, was hosted by a family in Norway and that is probably how he came to know about Ashraf’s production services. The idea that this somehow resulted in this same doctor and Ashraf acting out some faked scene over his dying or dead youngest brother is ludicrous and sickening. Ashraf’s father, who is a medical doctor too by the way, deserves better than to have the death of his child portrayed in any way other than the truth - Mahmoud died because a rocket hit him while he was playing on the roof of his apartment. It is a legitimate story for the media to cover.

I would however suggest that it is vital for the media also to cover why such events occur, and to give balanced and fair overall coverage. Some filmed reports may show one aspect of the complex events, while another should show another side. For example, WNF is investigating (and has also asked the IDF) whether unmanned drones have cameras which produce only fuzzy pictures and therefore cannot or did not distinguish whether figures moving on a roof are fighter or just kids. That may well be the case. WNF is proud to be a very independent producer of news and current affairs from ALL sides of a conflict. Presently I am in Israel filming with the Israeli medical teams who go to the sites of rocket attacks, for example.

Finally, we welcome and encourage and salute scrutiny of the media, but we urge bloggers first to think before they leap to the keyboard, and then to be moderate and considerate, especially when alleging things that will be deeply hurtful to other human beings. Anyone with further queries (or apologies) is welcome to contact me on worldnf@gmail.com.

Oh yes, by the way when the war is over and I can get into Gaza myself, I will get thea full video of the original filmed tape, and make it available to all on our website. We would then welcome honest analysis.

Comment by PAUL MARTIN — January 11, 2009 @ 1:45 am

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FrogMarch Sun, Jan 11, 2009 6:30:25am

Silence! CNN owes no explanation.

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Blackacre Sun, Jan 11, 2009 7:28:40am

re: #130 Mike DeGuzman

Paul Martin finally posted his comments on Augean Stables:
[Link: [Link: www.theaugeanstables.com...]

Not surprisingly, Paul Martin's response is larded with self-serving statements of objectivity and feigned umbrage over the criticisms directed at this propaganda, but precious little in terms of facts that address the many red flags in the scenes that have been aired.

The most that Martin offers is a lame excuse -- which never actually comes to grips with the lack of vigor of the CPR, the disconnected leads on the medical equipment, the absence of larger quantities of blood on the sheets, or the presence of clothes remaining on a body in an ER that was supposedly inflicted by various shrapnel wounds -- that is nothing more than his supposition that the CPR was gentle because the White Lab Coat Guys^TM had already concluded that their "efforts" were futile.

What is shown is just the very final stage of doctors’ failed efforts to save Mahmoud. I suppose the reason their effort as shown is so gentle is that they have already in effect concluded that it is futile.

Notwithstanding his rhetoric, Martin has failed to come forward with any facts demonstrating that this video production is anything other than stage-managed Pallywood propaganda. His indignation, righteous or otherwise, does not suffice.

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right_in_canada Sun, Jan 11, 2009 6:58:41pm

re: #108 GNIDAthe#seCond

check out the sites and sounds of Toronto's hateful anti-Israel protest at HERE

....but , ....but..... but ......

Our news media here said it was a peaceful non-violent demonstration ? Why would they lie about that ?

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