In yet another post praising the European neofascist group Vlaams Belang, Pamela Geller reveals that she wants me publicly flogged, and I’m fairly sure she’s serious.
Since this is coming from the shrieking lunatic who thinks Barack Obama is the love child of Malcolm X, I guess I should take it as a compliment. Stay as classy as you are, Pamela!
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:09:16am |
shrieking, deranged lunatic
That's a compliment.
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redshirt Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:10:22am |
Go To San Francisco, they love public flogging. Zombie will shoot it.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:11:37am |
She's just totally lost her mind Charles. Well, what mind she had, anyway.
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jaunte Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:11:45am |
“Somebody must take a chance. The monkeys who did became men, and the monkeys who didn't are still jumping around in trees making faces at the monkeys who did.”
-- Lincoln Steffens
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Jetpilot1101 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:12:27am |
Another reason why I don't read blogs with the exception of LGF. There sure are a lot of loonies out there.
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CIA Reject Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:12:37am |
I do wish she would just do the world a favor and STFU!
Then again if by "flogged" she means "highly promoted" (as in the synonym for "advertised") I agree wholeheartedly.
Otherwise she should just FOAD.
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Jim708 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:12:43am |
She's jess upset that Kate over at SDA is kicking her butt in the weblog awards ;)
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ArdentCapitalist Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:13:20am |
Whenever the shrieking masses of collectivists call for me to be subject to great bodily harm and/or death at the hands of the mob, I always enjoy reminding them of my cowardly practice of carrying rather capable firearms concealed on my person.
I would consider it an honor to bring about such vitriol from a shrieking moonbat.
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ArmyWife Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:13:29am |
as I don't have the required PPE at the ready to visit that site, does it still say dear Charles "whould be flogged" in public?
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:13:57am |
re: #5 Lynn B. Really. But ya know it's not all BAD - at least she's not whipping up her supporter to vote over and over and over again at those stupid web blog awards!
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Lyric Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:14:52am |
Flogging must not be considered torture by the Left...at least she didn't suggest you be waterboarded Charles, that would be truly inhumane.
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DistantThunder Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:14:56am |
I think Pam has a Junior high crush on Charles. Don't become a stalker, Pam.
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CIA Reject Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:15:50am |
re: #16 DistantThunder
I think Pam has a Junior high crush on Charles. Don't become a stalker, Pam.
Heh- "Hell hath no fury.." eh?
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:16:11am |
re: #11 ArmyWife
Well she refers to him as "Chuck" and to think that she used to call him her "BlogFather" for his assistance in getting Atlas Shrugs up and running!
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:16:18am |
re: #10 ArdentCapitalist
Whenever the shrieking masses of collectivists call for me to be subject to great bodily harm and/or death at the hands of the mob, I always enjoy reminding them of my cowardly practice of carrying rather capable firearms concealed on my person.
I would consider it an honor to bring about such vitriol from a shrieking moonbat.
I wouldn't call her a moonbat.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:17:03am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:17:25am |
re: #19 realwest
Well she refers to him as "Chuck" and to think that she used to call him her "BlogFather" for his assistance in getting Atlas Shrugs up and running!
Serpent's tooth.
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rwmofo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:17:26am |
re: #16 DistantThunder
I think Pam has a Junior high crush on Charles. Don't become a stalker, Pam.
Just like Olby's man-crush on O'Reilly. The envy eats away at them from within.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:17:39am |
I don't go to Atlas Barfs any more, but this time I did check the post.
At least she didn't mispell "publicly".
/both "L's" ... Charles, you should be grateful.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:17:55am |
re: #17 Jetpilot1101
If you mean "hot" as in "hot looking" I don't know - take a look at any of her threads where she's at some kinda event featuring people who actually count - she's in everyone of the photos she posts, so you can judge for yourself!
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:18:00am |
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rwmofo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:18:15am |
re: #17 Jetpilot1101
Is Pam hot? Does anyone know?
Yeah, but so are a lot of chicks that would drive you nuts in about 30 seconds - or less.
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lionfromzion Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:18:18am |
I think Pamela is a major hottie. She can flog me anytime. Preferably in private though. :)
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:18:42am |
OT: Obama is on ABC's Stephanopoulis show right now mostly just running his mouth and looking tanned, rested, and ready, but at least he (Obama) has *finally* offered Israel some mild support this morning, perhaps for the first time.
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CIA Reject Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:18:47am |
re: #20 MandyManners
I wouldn't call her a moonbat.
She's not a moonbat, she is a "useful idiot". CAIR and the rest of the jihadi movement can point to her and tar honest anti-jihadi people as Nazis.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:18:56am |
re: #22 MandyManners
"Serpent's tooth" Uh, what? (sorry, need more coffee!)
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RememberSekhmet? Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:19:00am |
I've been doing a little thinking, and I realized something:
The way I figure it, most people don't start paying attention to world events much before the age of 13 or 14. They might start thinking of themselves as potential voters about the age of 16, and cannot vote before the age of 18. So, let's think about some of the historical events that had the potential to shape the opinions of people in a more conservative direction, especially if you actually witnessed these events yourself, instead of having to rely on the accounts from biased media and historians.
If you were under the age of 50 in 2008, you could not have lived to regret voting for Jimmy Carter.If you were under the age of 41, you may not have remembered much about the Carter years at all, except for going to see Star Wars with your parents.
It was those 46-year-olds who watched the Church Committees neuter the CIA, then watched America's enemies respond by feeling themselves free to take over other countries who voted for Reagan in 1980.
If you were 35 or 36 years old or older in 2008, you would remember the Achille Lauro, preceded by years and years of PLO hijackings of airliners. If you were 30, you would remember the collapse of the USSR, and the campaign to rehabilitate the image of the Palestinians in anticipation of the Oslo Accords the 28-year-olds may remember.
You would have had to be 34 in 2008 to have regretted voting for Bill Clinton in 1992. If you were younger than 24 in 2008, it would have been inappropriate to discuss the Monica Lewinsky incident, and thus the whys and wherefores of the Clinton impeachment as it was happening.
To anyone younger than 30, the Cold War was something to read about in a history book commissioned by NEA members and written by a history professor who spent his or her spare time agitating for CISPES and divestment from South Africa.
A 19-year old's political awareness was shaped almost entirely by the election of George W Bush in 2000, and the subsequent leftist campaign against him.
And this is why Obama won in 2008.
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Teacake! Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:19:13am |
I'm still shocked that she veered off into where ever she is these days. I used to email with her years ago and she was so sweet and kind. Very strange transformation.
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JammieWearingFool Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:19:18am |
She really should address that drinking problem.
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Jetpilot1101 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:19:30am |
re: #20 MandyManners
I wouldn't call her a moonbat.
Charles and her seem to share the same mission to expose the left and defend Israel but unfortunately, it seems that she is willing to turn a blind eye to some pretty bad supremacist stuff in order to do it. I commend Charles on exposing the nationalists over there for what they are and not joining their side just because there is a common enemy. Looks like Pam has a log in her eye.
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Ojoe Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:19:30am |
Pamela Geller is breaking the law:
TITLE 18--CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I--CRIMES
CHAPTER 19--CONSPIRACY
Sec. 373. Solicitation to commit a crime of violence
(a) Whoever, with intent that another person engage in conduct
constituting a felony that has as an element the use, attempted use, or
threatened use of physical force against property or against the person
of another in violation of the laws of the United States, and under
circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent, solicits, commands,
induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such other person to engage
in such conduct, shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum
term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more
than one-half of the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the
crime solicited, or both; or if the crime solicited is punishable by
life imprisonment or death, shall be imprisoned for not more than twenty
years.
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Vaak Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:19:38am |
I knew there was a reason I never read her website, this just vindicates my decision.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:20:21am |
re: #28 lionfromzion
I think Pamela is a major hottie. She can flog me anytime. Preferably in private though. :)
You must've read my #24.
(-:
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:21:49am |
re: #34 JammieWearingFool Good morning Jammie!
Uh, what drinking problem?!
/
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:21:51am |
re: #6 Jetpilot1101
Another reason why I don't read blogs with the exception of LGF. There sure are a lot of loonies out there.
I agree..I came over here from Just one Minute Blog.. Just the coolest smartest bloggers around.. That's where i got started...I still go back and say I love you guys...
Also I saw a sundance movie called blog wars 2 about firedoglake blog..With Jane hammier and learned about bloggering during the Scotter trial..Our politics don't match
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:21:59am |
re: #33 Teacake!
I'm still shocked that she veered off into where ever she is these days. I used to email with her years ago and she was so sweet and kind. Very strange transformation.
I think she's star-struck and desperately wants to be in the new "in" crowd.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:22:00am |
Chemical weapons, Israel set up Hamas. This is nothing but pure propaganda
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RememberSekhmet? Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:22:01am |
On-topic for once,
Why are we being subjected to the perverted fantasies of Pam Geller? Worse yet, what did Charles do to be the target of Pam Geller's sadomasochistic screed?
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:22:32am |
re: #31 realwest
"Serpent's tooth" Uh, what? (sorry, need more coffee!)
Ref:
"Sharper than a serpent's tooth is a thankless child ..."
Or something like that.
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smokefire Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:22:36am |
re: #29 itellu3times
OT: Obama is on ABC's Stephanopoulis show right now mostly just running his mouth and looking tanned, rested, and ready, but at least he (Obama) has *finally* offered Israel some mild support this morning, perhaps for the first time.
..........me thinks he is smoking again, and heavily. too.
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ArdentCapitalist Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:22:52am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:22:52am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:23:10am |
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ThinkRight Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:23:12am |
re: #35 Jetpilot1101
Charles and her seem to share the same mission to expose the left and defend Israel but unfortunately, it seems that she is willing to turn a blind eye to some pretty bad supremacist stuff in order to do it. I commend Charles on exposing the nationalists over there for what they are and not joining their side just because there is a common enemy. Looks like Pam has a log in her eye.
Sounds like most politicians and Mactors in LA
/every life is precious except the unborn
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:23:28am |
re: #30 CIA Reject
She's not a moonbat, she is a "useful idiot". CAIR and the rest of the jihadi movement can point to her and tar honest anti-jihadi people as Nazis.
Precisely.
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CIA Reject Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:23:32am |
re: #32 RememberSekhmet?
Very thought provoking- excellent analysis!
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rwmofo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:23:35am |
re: #45 RememberSekhmet?
On-topic for once,
Why are we being subjected to the perverted fantasies of Pam Geller? Worse yet, what did Charles do to be the target of Pam Geller's sadomasochistic screed?
I think that he pointed out her association with racists.
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:23:38am |
re: #47 smokefire
..........me thinks he is smoking again, and heavily. too.
Maybe he should take up a pipe.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:23:57am |
re: #43 Spiny Norman
I think she's star-struck and desperately wants to be in the new "in" crowd.
and I think you are exactly right...she hasn't watched where she stepped, lost focus and seems envious now
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:24:05am |
re: #35 Jetpilot1101
Charles and her seem to share the same mission to expose the left and defend Israel but unfortunately, it seems that she is willing to turn a blind eye to some pretty bad supremacist stuff in order to do it. I commend Charles on exposing the nationalists over there for what they are and not joining their side just because there is a common enemy. Looks like Pam has a log in her eye.
A whole forest.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:24:10am |
re: #35 Jetpilot1101
I have to disagree - NO ONE WHO TRULY SUPPORTS ISRAEL could make common league with Fascists of any stripe.
And there are some of the European brand who only support the State of Israel so they'll be someplace to deport European Jews to when (God forbid) they come to power.
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DistantThunder Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:24:33am |
re: #23 rwmofo
Just like Olby's man-crush on O'Reilly. The envy eats away at them from within.
Olby just reeks of "1 paycheck from homeless."
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:25:03am |
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JammieWearingFool Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:25:09am |
re: #41 realwest
Good morning Jammie!
Uh, what drinking problem?!
/
Hey, bud, how are you?
I recall one time a couple years ago on here she was talking about how much wine she was consuming and posted a totally incoherent comment. When I suggested she put down the wine glass she told me to go eff myself.
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Jetpilot1101 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:25:44am |
re: #58 realwest
I have to disagree - NO ONE WHO TRULY SUPPORTS ISRAEL could make common league with Fascists of any stripe.
And there are some of the European brand who only support the State of Israel so they'll be someplace to deport European Jews to when (God forbid) they come to power.
That's a valid point. Her support may be completely opportunistic.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:25:55am |
I'm muting NanaCam. This guy is a tool of Hamas from the West Bank.
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DistantThunder Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:26:13am |
re: #29 itellu3times
OT: Obama is on ABC's Stephanopoulis show right now mostly just running his mouth and looking tanned, rested, and ready, but at least he (Obama) has *finally* offered Israel some mild support this morning, perhaps for the first time.
Our Beta-male, metro sexual, hen-pecked, p-whipped president - and Putin just declared it's the beginning of a new Ice Age - Round One.........
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smokefire Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:26:13am |
re: #55 itellu3times
Maybe he should take up a pipe.
.................and what kind of pipe would that be?
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ArmyWife Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:26:19am |
re: #62 JammieWearingFool
The usually cogent response, huh? Utter class, that one.
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:26:21am |
Oh great, Pamela Geller. Who lifted up Dorothy's house and let her out from under?
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:26:52am |
re: #43 Spiny Norman
I think she's star-struck and desperately wants to be in the new "in" crowd.
Spot on!
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:27:15am |
re: #64 MandyManners
I'm muting NanaCam. This guy is a tool of Hamas from the West Bank.
He's gone now.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:27:16am |
My take is that she and RS are primarily interested in installing themselves as King and Queen of a movement that they (and only they) have invented. There are a lot of good people doing good things in the name of counterjihad (and have been for years), but to get in their particular club you have to be pure on their terms.
Sorry your majesty. I'm good here at LGF. Really. Thanks for asking.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:28:04am |
re: #62 JammieWearingFool
Hey, bud, how are you?
I recall one time a couple years ago on here she was talking about how much wine she was consuming and posted a totally incoherent comment. When I suggested she put down the wine glass she told me to go eff myself.
Blogging while blotto!
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red satellite Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:28:11am |
Yes Pamela is hot...but bless her heart, her NY upbringing has shaped an over-the-top classic Jewish American Princess voice which will keep her from gaining a national audience.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:28:14am |
re: #45 RememberSekhmet? Two years or so ago there was a "counter-jihadist" conference in Brussels. Charles posted that the good guy counter-jihadist's needed to be careful to not allow themselves to be used to burnish the image of the White Nationalists/Neo-Nazi's in Europe who also attended the conference. THAT'S ALL CHARLES SAID: "BE CAREFUL". Pamela - who could easily have contacted Charles privately, immediately posted a full tilt boogie attack on Charles and went so far as to say Charles was in league with CAIR!
It went downhill from there.
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:28:37am |
re: #49 MandyManners
Reference to King Lear.
And it made an appearance in one of my very favorite X-Files.
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Ayatollah Ghilmeini Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:29:01am |
Charles, ignore her, she isn't worth it.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:29:22am |
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yma o hyd Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:29:27am |
re: #73 Bloodnok
My take is that she and RS are primarily interested in installing themselves as King and Queen of a movement that they (and only they) have invented. There are a lot of good people doing good things in the name of counterjihad (and have been for years), but to get in their particular club you have to be pure on their terms.
Sorry your majesty. I'm good here at LGF. Really. Thanks for asking.
Just so!
You said precisely what I felt for some time, but couldn't put into words as well as you have done.
Thanks.
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DistantThunder Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:29:45am |
Charles just has to stop wear that great cologne. It's driving Pam wild.
(Invention idea: A perfume/cologne that only attracts people of your own political ideology while repelling all others.)
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jwb7605 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:29:46am |
re: #35 Jetpilot1101
Charles and her seem to share the same mission to expose the left and defend Israel but unfortunately, it seems that she is willing to turn a blind eye to some pretty bad supremacist stuff in order to do it. I commend Charles on exposing the nationalists over there for what they are and not joining their side just because there is a common enemy. Looks like Pam has a log in her eye.
Your comment reminds me of an article on Politico on Bill Cosby.
I applaud half the message. (The sound of one hand clapping)
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ArmyWife Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:29:52am |
The fact that PG thinks Charles caused a "lost year" single handily speaks volumes. She clearly understands that Charles and his views usurp the views of the crazy pack she is running with and as she has no rational way to respond, she is resorting to kindergarten temper tantrums. To which I say "You Go, Head Honco!"
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smokefire Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:30:15am |
............question here, Pamela, if Europe gets rid of their Muslim problem, WHO do you think they will go after next...............hmmmm?
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:30:30am |
re: #77 Lynn B.
And it made an appearance in one of my very favorite X-Files.
For a while, whenever I read a "shaddup Sully" post, I thought it was a reference to Scully.
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DistantThunder Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:30:30am |
re: #75 red satellite
Yes Pamela is hot...but bless her heart, her NY upbringing has shaped an over-the-top classic Jewish American Princess voice which will keep her from gaining a national audience.
That voice...someone should tell her.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:30:36am |
re: #64 MandyManners
I'm muting NanaCam. This guy is a tool of Hamas from the West Bank.
Of course Brown Shirt Guy is a tool. "Ramattan" is a propaganda outlet.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:30:50am |
re: #43 Spiny Norman
I think she's star-struck and desperately wants to be in the new "in" crowd.
Yes. As RW mentioned upthread she posts lotsa pictures to prove to the world how popular she is.
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CIA Reject Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:30:57am |
re: #62 JammieWearingFool
Hey, bud, how are you?
I recall one time a couple years ago on here she was talking about how much wine she was consuming and posted a totally incoherent comment. When I suggested she put down the wine glass she told me to go eff myself.
Posting one-handed while plastered? Well, at least she has some talent...
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jaunte Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:31:07am |
So, reading the posting about the 'great works' of the counter jihad movement at Geller's site, we find this substance: in total, Vlaams Belang:
- voted against a parliament resolution condemning the "disproportionate" violence of Israel in Gaza
- called for a special meeting of Antwerp city council to discuss riots and demonstration
- complained to the mayor that nothing was done
1. Are these considered important anti-jihad efforts?
2. In what way were Vlaams Belang hampered in these minor efforts by LGF
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:31:27am |
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rwmofo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:31:43am |
Did anyone see Brit's interview with 41 & 43 this morning? I thought it was cool how 41 responded to Brit's question concerning why they didn't fight back against many criticisms. 41 was clear that he saw no reason to lower himself and "carp" about the left (unlike Carter & Clinton). Clearly 43 got the message or figured it out on his own. I felt that this illustrated how they were above the petty, teenage mentality of Clinton & Carter.
There were times, however, when I wish that 43 had whacked the MSM across the chops in some of the press conferences.
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JammieWearingFool Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:32:44am |
re: #74 MandyManners
Blogging while blotto!
I've done that myself, but at least I usually wind up posting something funny.
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:33:04am |
Stephanopoulis pressing Obama to name a 9/11 prosecutor to investigate the crimes of the Bush administration, Obama to his credit pushing it away, Stephanopoulis pressing the question at least three times.
Now they're talking dog ...
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unrealizedviewpoint Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:33:33am |
re: #32 RememberSekhmet?
I've been doing a little thinking, and I realized something:
The way I figure it, most people don't start paying attention to world events much before the age of 13 or 14. They might start thinking of themselves as potential voters about the age of 16, and cannot vote before the age of 18. So, let's think about some of the historical events that had the potential to shape the opinions of people in a more conservative direction, especially if you actually witnessed these events yourself, instead of having to rely on the accounts from biased media and historians.
If you were under the age of 50 in 2008, you could not have lived to regret voting for Jimmy Carter.If you were under the age of 41, you may not have remembered much about the Carter years at all, except for going to see Star Wars with your parents.
It was those 46-year-olds who watched the Church Committees neuter the CIA, then watched America's enemies respond by feeling themselves free to take over other countries who voted for Reagan in 1980.
If you were 35 or 36 years old or older in 2008, you would remember the Achille Lauro, preceded by years and years of PLO hijackings of airliners. If you were 30, you would remember the collapse of the USSR, and the campaign to rehabilitate the image of the Palestinians in anticipation of the Oslo Accords the 28-year-olds may remember.
You would have had to be 34 in 2008 to have regretted voting for Bill Clinton in 1992. If you were younger than 24 in 2008, it would have been inappropriate to discuss the Monica Lewinsky incident, and thus the whys and wherefores of the Clinton impeachment as it was happening.
To anyone younger than 30, the Cold War was something to read about in a history book commissioned by NEA members and written by a history professor who spent his or her spare time agitating for CISPES and divestment from South Africa.
A 19-year old's political awareness was shaped almost entirely by the election of George W Bush in 2000, and the subsequent leftist campaign against him.
And this is why Obama won in 2008.
Great points. I'd almost agree fully except a lot of adults, not just wide-eyed youth voted for this HopeNchange. I believe human beings simply do not have any collective memory and are simply stuck on repeat.
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yma o hyd Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:33:36am |
OI - little round-up of Hamas-sayings here:
[Link: elderofziyon.blogspot.com...]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:33:39am |
re: #32 RememberSekhmet?
I'm 38, and I remember my parents on election day 1976, talking about how bad it was that Carter was elected.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:33:41am |
re: #62 JammieWearingFool Ah, that's what I thought you meant. Had a phone call with her right after her first blog was up, telling her it wasn't perhaps the brightest thing she could do to post her real, full name, and phone number (and, iirc, the names of her kids). She thanked me for the warning and in a long conversation praised Charles for his inspiration and all. I could hear ice-cubes tinkling in a glass when she was talking to me and thought it was a soft drink or something - 45 minutes later I couldn't understand a word she was slurring.
FAIR NOTICE: I am a non-drinking alcoholic and am sensitive to those sorts of things.
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Ringo the Gringo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:34:00am |
She's an embarrassment.
And those rambling, sometimes drunken, videos that she posts on Youtube are proof that she is a borderline nutcase.
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opnion Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:34:08am |
Off topic, Maxine Waters is now on with David Gregory.
She is magnificent. If coherent thougts were ammunition, Maxine has a clip full of blanks. I love it when she expresses her opinion, so entertaining.
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Sunlight Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:34:11am |
re: #43 Spiny Norman
I think she's star-struck and desperately wants to be in the new "in" crowd.
Good observation. Also, the sweeps are on with the blogaward voting and she's using Charles to drum up votes.
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DistantThunder Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:34:13am |
re: #96 rwmofo
Did anyone see Brit's interview with 41 & 43 this morning? I thought it was cool how 41 responded to Brit's question concerning why they didn't fight back against many criticisms. 41 was clear that he saw no reason to lower himself and "carp" about the left (unlike Carter & Clinton). Clearly 43 got the message or figured it out on his own. I felt that this illustrated how they were above the petty, teenage mentality of Clinton & Carter.
There were times, however, when I wish that 43 had whacked the MSM across the chops in some of the press conferences.
The problem is that in the minds of the average person, the left became more valid because they were louder, and made their point relentlessly. We were fighting a propaganda war with the lefties, and there were holes in the lines - Pres. Bush was MIA.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:34:21am |
re: #84 DistantThunder
Charles just has to stop wear that great cologne. It's driving Pam wild.
(Invention idea: A perfume/cologne that only attracts people of your own political ideology while repelling all others.)
I'd buy some of that.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:34:45am |
re: #93 jaunte
So, reading the posting about the 'great works' of the counter jihad movement at Geller's site, we find this substance: in total, Vlaams Belang:
- voted against a parliament resolution condemning the "disproportionate" violence of Israel in Gaza
- called for a special meeting of Antwerp city council to discuss riots and demonstration
- complained to the mayor that nothing was done1. Are these considered important anti-jihad efforts?
2. In what way were Vlaams Belang hampered in these minor efforts by LGF
it's all about the attitude...what little there is, is someones solid and irrefutable principle...must drive them nuts
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:34:47am |
Do we have any word on when -- or if, and HOW -- Paul Martin will make an appearance?
I just skimmed down the front page, to see if he threw something in (today) at the end of yesterday's posts. Nada.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:34:54am |
re: #90 Spiny Norman
Of course Brown Shirt Guy is a tool. "Ramattan" is a propaganda outlet.
I just wondered what he had to say.
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rightymouse Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:35:11am |
re: #98 JammieWearingFool
I've done that myself, but at least I usually wind up posting something funny.
I love reading your blog, BTW. You have a sense of humor many folks can appreciate. Pamela lacks the ability to amuse, sober or not.
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:35:31am |
re: #96 rwmofo
Did anyone see Brit's interview with 41 & 43 this morning? I thought it was cool how 41 responded to Brit's question concerning why they didn't fight back against many criticisms. 41 was clear that he saw no reason to lower himself and "carp" about the left (unlike Carter & Clinton). Clearly 43 got the message or figured it out on his own. I felt that this illustrated how they were above the petty, teenage mentality of Clinton & Carter.
There were times, however, when I wish that 43 had whacked the MSM across the chops in some of the press conferences.
Yes, Bush43 followed some of Dad's leads on not responding to criticism, and this has been his greatest shortcoming by far.
The polite way to respond to criticism is not to respond to it directly, but to tell your own story, "set the narrative" yourself. Was Bush43 the taciturn cowboy or the elitist trilateralist like Bush41? Either way, he wasted the bully pulpit for almost his entire time in office.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:35:35am |
re: #98 JammieWearingFool
I've done that myself, but at least I usually wind up posting something funny.
I don't think you have a mean bone in your body.
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:35:37am |
re: #113 rightymouse
I love reading your blog, BTW. You have a sense of humor many folks can appreciate. Pamela lacks the ability to amuse, sober or not.
I laugh at her, but never with her.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:36:04am |
re: #105 Ringo the Gringo
She's an embarrassment.
And those rambling, sometimes drunken, videos that she posts on Youtube are proof that she is a borderline nutcase.
Touch of narcissism?
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:36:11am |
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:37:18am |
re: #111 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Do we have any word on when -- or if, and HOW -- Paul Martin will make an appearance?
He's gathering his brain trust and downing a bottle of Bushmills at this very moment, in preparation.
/or not
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:37:36am |
re: #105 Ringo the Gringo
She's an embarrassment.
And those rambling, sometimes drunken, videos that she posts on Youtube are proof that she is a borderline nutcase.
I think she's waaaaaaay past "borderline."
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:37:44am |
re: #118 reine.de.tout
Lordy, that girl's hair is showing!
Why was it more important to stick that camera in that kid's face than wash his lips?!
Yes, that was a rhetorical question.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:37:47am |
re: #80 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
I'd ordinarily agree with you, but there is a personal history of Charles helping her out with her setting up and running her blog - I sense betrayal in what she says and wouldn't be surprised if Charles didn't feel the same way.
Some things just can't go unanswered.
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jwb7605 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:37:52am |
re: #101 unrealizedviewpoint
Great points. I'd almost agree fully except a lot of adults, not just wide-eyed youth voted for this HopeNchange. I believe human beings simply do not have any collective memory and are simply stuck on repeat.
Most of those people also voted for Jimmy Carter.
Discussing and/or debating with those people is exactly the same experience as a conversation with a troofer.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:38:25am |
re: #111 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Do we have any word on when -- or if, and HOW -- Paul Martin will make an appearance?
I just skimmed down the front page, to see if he threw something in (today) at the end of yesterday's posts. Nada.
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
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Ringo the Gringo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:38:28am |
re: #105 Ringo the Gringo
She's an embarrassment.
And those rambling, sometimes drunken, videos that she posts on Youtube are proof that she is a borderline nutcase.
Strike the word "borderline", she is a complete nut.
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Digital Display Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:38:38am |
I'm all for public flogging Charles!
one time for standing with our friends Israel.
one time for not sleeping with Nazi's to fight muslims
one time for not caving to PC speak
one time for being totally pure science no matter where it leads us
one time for believing there is truth..somewere..but it is there
one time for not suffering fools
/my arm is tired
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:38:49am |
re: #105 Ringo the Gringo
She's an embarrassment.
And those rambling, sometimes drunken, videos that she posts on Youtube are proof that she is a borderline nutcase.
I agree about the videos.
The one that turned me off her completely was the video of her talking to the camera while rolling around in the surf in her bikini.
She is a very good-looking woman.
But what kind of serious person posts that kind of shit on the internet?
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:39:18am |
re: #111 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Do we have any word on when -- or if, and HOW -- Paul Martin will make an appearance?
I just skimmed down the front page, to see if he threw something in (today) at the end of yesterday's posts. Nada.
He made an appearance at Augean Stables. Comment #13. If he bothers to come here, I suspect we'll just get the same garbage.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:39:31am |
re: #91 Bloodnok
Yes. As RW mentioned upthread she posts lotsa pictures to prove to the world how popular she is.
A groupie.
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CynicalConservative Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:39:38am |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
Disappointing, but not surprised. Thanks for all your great work.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:39:42am |
re: #123 realwest
Actually, no -- I did not help Pamela set up her blog. Don't blame me for that mess! Heh.
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rightymouse Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:39:50am |
re: #116 gclaghorn
I laugh at her, but never with her.
Haven't read her stuff in ages unless one of her rants is linked here.
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jwb7605 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:40:04am |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
Sorry to hear that. I really am.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:40:05am |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
quintuple HEH!
Thanks!
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:40:41am |
re: #87 smokefire See now, that's not fair, asking her to "think".
My impression was that first counter-jihad conference was viewed by her as HER PARADE (at least judging by the photos she published) and when Charles posted a mere caution, she felt that he had rained on HER parade.
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:40:45am |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
Aw, I thought it would come to this. I almost said so, after my deconstruction post last night, just based on the couple of sentences you shared earlier. Is that what he's pissed about?
Doesn't really matter, I think we've seen his whole act already.
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rwmofo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:40:50am |
re: #106 opnion
Off topic, Maxine Waters is now on with David Gregory.
She is magnificent. If coherent thougts were ammunition, Maxine has a clip full of blanks. I love it when she expresses her opinion, so entertaining.
Besides the obvious, whenever I hear Maxine mentioned it reminds me of the time she said that she was marching in the "pro-choice" rallies/parades because her mother couldn't get an abortion.
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rusty_armor Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:40:51am |
Mmmm. I've never been to a public flogging ...
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jwb7605 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:40:55am |
re: #133 Charles
Actually, no -- I did not help Pamela set up her blog. Don't blame me for that mess! Heh.
Can you prove that on your birth certificate? HA! Thought not!
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:41:05am |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
Are you going to post it, bold text and all, so we can ruthlessly mock?
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:41:15am |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
You have to wonder what that whole charade yesterday was all about. He's just dug himself in that much deeper.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:41:17am |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
All in bold text?
Why do I get the feeling that he's the kind of readers that useta' send letters to the editor written in crayon?
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SurferDoc Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:41:48am |
re: #84 DistantThunder
Charles just has to stop wear that great cologne. It's driving Pam wild.
(Invention idea: A perfume/cologne that only attracts people of your own political ideology while repelling all others.)
It is called "Integrity".
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:41:50am |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
Well, he's a coward then.
All the questions could be easily answered, if there were reasonable answers to them.
I suspect, then, that there are no factual reasonable answers, other than the fact that he's worked with Ashraf and likes him. And that's no answer.
Coward.
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opnion Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:42:17am |
re: #140 rwmofo
Besides the obvious, whenever I hear Maxine mentioned it reminds me of the time she said that she was marching in the "pro-choice" rallies/parades because her mother couldn't get an abortion.
The woman is a raging loon & that statement proves it. You know that she completely misses the irony.
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Pullus Iulius Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:42:20am |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
Another graduate of the Hamas Academy of Rhetoric.
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rightymouse Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:42:21am |
re: #129 reine.de.tout
I agree about the videos.
The one that turned me off her completely was the video of her talking to the camera while rolling around in the surf in her bikini.
She is a very good-looking woman.
But what kind of serious person posts that kind of shit on the internet?
Insecure women who think their bodies are more important than their brains and what comes out of their mouths?
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:42:31am |
re: #145 MandyManners
All in bold text?
Why do I get the feeling that he's the kind of readers that useta' send letters to the editor written in crayon?
Do kids use crayons anymore? Everyone in kindergarten already has color ink-jet printers ...
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:42:38am |
re: #141 rusty_armor
Mmmm. I've never been to a public flogging ...
They're commonplace in places where the Death Cult rules, coincidently.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:42:38am |
re: #28 lionfromzion
Ever see Fatal Attraction? Don't be stupid.
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Ringo the Gringo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:43:36am |
re: #117 MandyManners
Touch of narcissism?
Ya think?...I saw one youtube video (I only found it because it was being ridiculed at a leftwing blog) of her, apparently drunk, lipsynching My Sharona with two teenage girls....It was the kind of video any normal person would want destroyed; she posted it on youtube.
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:43:40am |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
Is it any different than what he posted in the comments at Richard Landes' place?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:44:15am |
re: #130 Lynn B.
He made an appearance at Augean Stables. Comment #13. If he bothers to come here, I suspect we'll just get the same garbage.
"Presently I am in Israel filming with the Israeli medical teams who go to the sites of rocket attacks, for example."
Might I be inclined to wonder if Hamas and Islamic Jihad want data which will help them improve their targeting?
Am I implying anything?
/*silence*
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unrealizedviewpoint Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:44:38am |
re: #124 jwb7605
Most of those people also voted for Jimmy Carter.
Discussing and/or debating with those people is exactly the same experience as a conversation with a troofer.
They're not really bad folk. Most of them actually mean well. They're just folk who - for some strange reason are unable to connect dots. Bad wiring maybe?
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:44:38am |
re: #140 rwmofo
re: #106 opnion
Off topic, Maxine Waters is now on with David Gregory.
She is magnificent. If coherent thougts were ammunition, Maxine has a clip full of blanks. I love it when she expresses her opinion, so entertaining.Besides the obvious, whenever I hear Maxine mentioned it reminds me of the time she said that she was marching in the "pro-choice" rallies/parades because her mother couldn't get an abortion.
So many layers of irony, I just don't know where to start.
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pokeefe Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:45:02am |
Pam's horror at the prospect of creeping Islam has made her a bit hysterical, but the sources referred to on her site are often worth consideration.
As far as flogging goes, I wouldn't take her literally.
Beats me why she chose that figure of speech.
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Only The Lurker Knows Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:45:15am |
re: #125 Charles
You going to post the more juicy parts?
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:45:23am |
re: #129 reine.de.tout
I agree about the videos.
The one that turned me off her completely was the video of her talking to the camera while rolling around in the surf in her bikini.
She is a very good-looking woman.
But what kind of serious person posts that kind of shit on the internet?
Exactly. A person with serious issues.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:45:29am |
re: #125 Charles
LOL! All in bold text is as close to a sternly worded UN letter he can get!
He got caught. Period. Thanks to you and to Last Mohican.
Thanks again, Charles.
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funky chicken Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:46:11am |
re: #3 realwest
It's really sad. She should move out of NYC to the country or something. She used to seem sane 6 years ago.
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AuntAcid Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:46:43am |
re: #84 DistantThunder
Charles just has to stop wear that great cologne. It's driving Pam wild.
(Invention idea: A perfume/cologne that only attracts people of your own political ideology while repelling all others.)
Just dust yourself with a little gun powder.
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albusteve Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:47:16am |
re: #162 Lynn B.
Exactly. A person with serious issues.
Islam offends her hedonism mostly I think...
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Fat Jolly Penguin Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:47:23am |
LGF is only slightly ahead of ATS in the 2008 Awards poll.
/hint-hint, nudge-nudge
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unrealizedviewpoint Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:47:51am |
re: #141 rusty_armor
Mmmm. I've never been to a public flogging ...
Yesterday - war via the internet.
Today - a public flogging.
So many 1st's.
/
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:48:08am |
Let me guess
Charles you *******, I wouldn't touch your lizard with a ten-foot RPG, I only said I would to see your reaction [and because I was very very drunk]. You and your mouth-breathing reptiles are just Joos anyway, racist subhuman scum, why would I want to talk to them, I certainly don't want to listen to their disgusting grunts. Even my nine year old Palestinian wife knows you are an idiot. I will spread my sunshine in places you cannot go. Have a nice, day, you *******.
Regards,
Paul abu-Moonbat
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:48:34am |
Wasn't there anything going on in NYC for pamela to have her picture taken? Instead she was reduced to posting more threats at Charles. The poor dear.
Don't worry, pam- I'm sure something will come up soon so you can do what you do best- pose.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:48:36am |
re: #133 Charles
OK, I'm just sayin' what she said about you're being her blogfather - maybe she meant "inspiration" but that's not the clear implication of the phone call I had with her. Maybe just wanting to associate with you veryclosely (this was, of course, looong before you rained on her parade by cautioning good folks at the counter-jihad conference).
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fingal Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:48:39am |
Is it possible to love two people at the same time? I wish you and Pamela well. You have both been an inspiration.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:50:06am |
re: #160 pokeefe
Pam's horror at the prospect of creeping Islam has made her a bit hysterical, but the sources referred to on her site are often worth consideration.
As far as flogging goes, I wouldn't take her literally.
Beats me why she chose that figure of speech.
Yeah, no big deal to call for someone to be physically harmed, right? I gotta stop being so sensitive.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:50:55am |
re: #151 itellu3times
Do kids use crayons anymore? Everyone in kindergarten already has color ink-jet printers ...
The Kid's school refuses to allow stuff from a printer for his classes.
Seriously, I useta' read some wild letters to the editor. Many would have randomly capitalized letters. Let's not even think about the spelling.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:50:59am |
re: #170 itellu3times
I will spread my sunshine in places you cannot go
This should, nay must rotate.
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notutopia Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:51:12am |
re: #80 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
Charles, ignore her, she isn't worth it.
Pay close attention. SHE's not ignoring Charles.
There is a reason to continue to feud with the master of anti-fascists.
It's all about her popularity and ratings.
I don't think she reads LGF to actually learn anything meaningfu. She's become a useful tool, about her naivete to follow, support, and ferociously condone anything that RS says and does. Even when it's blatantly obvious that RS is sleeping with the enemy.
You may think her body is hot.
Her head and logic is stone cold mush.
Fine to have around if you want a mannequin to prop up where all can gawk at her. You know, Like the PETA's use the models in the pet cages...so you'll stop and take a look at their propaganda.
Look, but use a mirror to do so, don't imbibe in her Medusa-like treachery.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:51:34am |
re: #173 fingal
Hmmm:
Registered since: May 23, 2007 at 12:00 pm
(Logged in)
No. of comments posted: 2
No. of links posted: 0
Some of you sleepers are really, really good! Strange for you to make two posts and that was one of 'em.
For the record, I wish Pamela no harm, but wish she'd just...........go away already.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:52:02am |
re: #154 Ringo the Gringo
Ya think?...I saw one youtube video (I only found it because it was being ridiculed at a leftwing blog) of her, apparently drunk, lipsynching My Sharona with two teenage girls....It was the kind of video any normal person would want destroyed; she posted it on youtube.
That's bat-poo crazy. Why is she haning out with minors? Were they drunk, too?
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jaunte Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:52:16am |
re: #160 pokeefe
As far as flogging goes, I wouldn't take her literally.
How do you propose that anyone decide which parts of her postings to take literally?
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:52:17am |
re: #160 pokeefe
Pam's horror at the prospect of creeping Islam has made her a bit hysterical, but the sources referred to on her site are often worth consideration.
As far as flogging goes, I wouldn't take her literally.
Beats me why she chose that figure of speech.
Sadly, this is not an isolated eruption. Just a loonier and more violent one than usual.
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NY Nana Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:52:18am |
re: #5 Lynn B.
OMFG!
What Lynn B. said.
I am so damned pissed off right now that anything I said about that harridan/meshugana would be [deleted].
Anyone know of a good Psychiatrist in NYC? Or does Pamela require immediate commission to a mental institution?
She is a shanda (disgrace) to the Jews.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:52:20am |
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jelo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:53:01am |
re: #101 unrealizedviewpoint
Great points. I'd almost agree fully except a lot of adults, not just wide-eyed youth voted for this HopeNchange. I believe human beings simply do not have any collective memory and are simply stuck on repeat.
Repeat is the operative word in that a fellow worker (31 yrs old) voted for the Democrats "cause daddy always voted Democrat". She would run out of the room or become very silent when political discussion erupted around the coffee machine prior to the election.
She knew better as well, but could live with herself if she erased daddy's vote.
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AuntAcid Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:53:02am |
re: #141 rusty_armor
Mmmm. I've never been to a public flogging ...
Slighty less gruesome than a SF Gay Pride parade.
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Fat Jolly Penguin Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:53:16am |
re: #179 realwest
For the record, I wish Pamela no harm, but wish she'd just...........go away already.
That's the difference between us and Pamela, evidently.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:53:44am |
re: #171 Sharmuta
Wasn't there anything going on in NYC for pamela to have her picture taken? Instead she was reduced to posting more threats at Charles. The poor dear.
Don't worry, pam- I'm sure something will come up soon so you can do what you do best- pose.
*meow*
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funky chicken Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:54:35am |
re: #32 RememberSekhmet?
I've been doing a little thinking, and I realized something:
The way I figure it, most people don't start paying attention to world events much before the age of 13 or 14. They might start thinking of themselves as potential voters about the age of 16, and cannot vote before the age of 18. So, let's think about some of the historical events that had the potential to shape the opinions of people in a more conservative direction, especially if you actually witnessed these events yourself, instead of having to rely on the accounts from biased media and historians.
If you were under the age of 50 in 2008, you could not have lived to regret voting for Jimmy Carter.If you were under the age of 41, you may not have remembered much about the Carter years at all, except for going to see Star Wars with your parents.
It was those 46-year-olds who watched the Church Committees neuter the CIA, then watched America's enemies respond by feeling themselves free to take over other countries who voted for Reagan in 1980.
If you were 35 or 36 years old or older in 2008, you would remember the Achille Lauro, preceded by years and years of PLO hijackings of airliners. If you were 30, you would remember the collapse of the USSR, and the campaign to rehabilitate the image of the Palestinians in anticipation of the Oslo Accords the 28-year-olds may remember.You would have had to be 34 in 2008 to have regretted voting for Bill Clinton in 1992. If you were younger than 24 in 2008, it would have been inappropriate to discuss the Monica Lewinsky incident, and thus the whys and wherefores of the Clinton impeachment as it was happening.
To anyone younger than 30, the Cold War was something to read about in a history book commissioned by NEA members and written by a history professor who spent his or her spare time agitating for CISPES and divestment from South Africa.
A 19-year old's political awareness was shaped almost entirely by the election of George W Bush in 2000, and the subsequent leftist campaign against him.
And this is why Obama won in 2008.
RS, for an optimistic point, my daughter says that most of her classmates at a large public school laugh at "global warming." She's in middle school in a pretty liberal area with lib teachers. but the kids laugh when the CNN for kids they watch in social studies reports on "global warming."
the kids are all right, and aren't quite brainwashed enough to ignore it when they freeze their buns off waiting for the bus or carpool
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:54:41am |
re: #173 fingal
Is it possible to love two people at the same time? I wish you and Pamela well. You have both been an inspiration.
What's to love?
Charles does not associate with fascists!
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albusteve Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:54:51am |
re: #184 MandyManners
Much more than a smidgen.
she's the B Spears of the bloggosphere...it's a niche she seems to have all to herself...so she's self centered and defiant and considers herself pretty special...imo
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:55:31am |
re: #176 MandyManners
The Kid's school refuses to allow stuff from a printer for his classes.
Well, good, I approve, I think. For one thing, too easy for Mom to do the work, hey? I'd start the use of word processors for assignments no earlier than, oh, maybe fifth grade.
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Ringo the Gringo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:55:59am |
re: #180 MandyManners
Why is she haning out with minors? Were they drunk, too?
No then didn't appear to be.
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rightymouse Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:56:11am |
re: #193 albusteve
she's the B Spears of the bloggosphere...it's a niche she seems to have all to herself...so she's self centered and defiant and considers herself pretty special...imo
Well...there IS Wonkette too...
/tough competition out there.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:56:22am |
re: #187 Sharmuta
I was thinking "flaming".
The more I've read of her shenanigans, I agree with you.
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NY Nana Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:56:33am |
re: #175 Charles
I am so sorry that she went totally spare and went after you like that.
/She must be having a bad hair day, or getting wrinkles.
I hope that she loses a lot of readers, and that the votes for her dry up like tumble weed, but how much basic intelligence can her readers have?
She reminds me of Gloria Swanson in 'Sunset Boulevard'.
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Ringo the Gringo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:56:38am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:56:51am |
re: #193 albusteve
she's the B Spears of the bloggosphere...it's a niche she seems to have all to herself...so she's self centered and defiant and considers herself pretty special...imo
A spayshul snowflake!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:56:53am |
re: #170 itellu3times
You left out "honcos"
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:57:13am |
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:57:32am |
re: #168 Fat Jolly Penguin
SCREW the hint-hint, nudge nudge - I've posted this so often just because it pisses me off: Charles offers us goodies almost beyond belief - including the best technological blog around, and LGF has less votes in over a week than we get comments here in one day.
I know Charles doesn't give a damn about those silly awards and neither do I, but I do care about the manifest fact that so many people take advantage of what he gives us on LGF but won't take the time to vote once for LGF.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:57:58am |
re: #195 itellu3times
Well, good, I approve, I think. For one thing, too easy for Mom to do the work, hey? I'd start the use of word processors for assignments no earlier than, oh, maybe fifth grade.
He can print photographs off the Internet for projects but, that's it.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:58:10am |
re: #176 MandyManners
The Kid's school refuses to allow stuff from a printer for his classes.
Seriously, I useta' read some wild letters to the editor. Many would have randomly capitalized letters. Let's not even think about the spelling.
Mandy - my daughter used to use powerpoint to create her own "flash cards".
She would type a question on a "slide", then the answer with a "delay" built in - then run the slide show.
Typing the stuff into powerpoint was a study method in itself - then she could play the slide show, see a question, have a few seconds to answer it, then the answer would appear.
It was fun for her, and worked well.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:58:16am |
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:58:46am |
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NY Nana Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:58:57am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:59:11am |
re: #198 MandyManners
The more I've read of her shenanigans, I agree with you.
Reading isn't really required- just go to her site sometime and count the number of pictures of herself that are posted vs. the number of pictures dealing with whatever event she's attending. She'll be in 80% of the pics.
ME! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEE!
It's just reeks from her site.
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CofactorMatrix Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:59:34am |
Geller was great as Buffy. Would you agree to be flogged if she showed us her tits?
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:59:35am |
re: #207 reine.de.tout
Mandy - my daughter used to use powerpoint to create her own "flash cards".
She would type a question on a "slide", then the answer with a "delay" built in - then run the slide show.
Typing the stuff into powerpoint was a study method in itself - then she could play the slide show, see a question, have a few seconds to answer it, then the answer would appear.
It was fun for her, and worked well.
He's been using his new Satellite to make home-movies. Future Spielberg?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 8:59:48am |
re: #204 MandyManners
Is she self-aware enough to feel the bite?
She'll want a picture of reality biting her. Make sure you get her good side.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:00:19am |
re: #211 Sharmuta
Reading isn't really required- just go to her site sometime and count the number of pictures of herself that are posted vs. the number of pictures dealing with whatever event she's attending. She'll be in 80% of the pics.
ME! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEE!
It's just reeks from her site.
I'd be concerned about people knowing what I looked like if I was running a blog as well-known as hers.
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rusty_armor Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:00:41am |
I think the Earth really is hollow. And the government has bugged my TV set. But I know who THEY are. THEY don't think I know, but I do. I am watching THEM. I won't let THEM catch me.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:01:08am |
re: #211 Sharmuta
Reading isn't really required- just go to her site sometime and count the number of pictures of herself that are posted vs. the number of pictures dealing with whatever event she's attending. She'll be in 80% of the pics.
ME! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEEEE!
It's just reeks from her site.
I noticed that too - esp. with her v-logs (videos).
Look at how she portrays herself.
Weird.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:01:25am |
re: #214 Sharmuta
She'll want a picture of reality biting her. Make sure you get her good side.
Well, I won't take one of her butt.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:02:15am |
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CofactorMatrix Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:02:28am |
re: #217 MandyManners
Sorry. I've taken my medicine now. Feeling better. Just lost my head for a sec.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:02:54am |
re: #130 Lynn B.
He made an appearance at Augean Stables. Comment #13. If he bothers to come here, I suspect we'll just get the same garbage.
Yep, he sent me the same thing in email. I'm trying to decide if it's worth posting.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:03:33am |
re: #213 MandyManners
He's been using his new Satellite to make home-movies. Future Spielberg?
Could be!
One of the very best things I ever got for my daughter was a video camera, when she was about 11.
She loved it, and the videos and her narration are hilarious!
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:04:21am |
re: #180 MandyManners
That's bat-poo crazy. Why is she haning out with minors? Were they drunk, too?
I haven't seen it but it's possible they were her daughters. Back when I actually visited her site occasionally I seem to recall that she put them in a lot of her videos. Which I found a bit creepy.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:04:30am |
re: #180 MandyManners
That's bat-poo crazy. Why is she haning out with minors? Were they drunk, too?
I think they were her daughters.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:04:44am |
re: #218 reine.de.tout
I noticed that too - esp. with her v-logs (videos).
Look at how she portrays herself.
Weird.
I used to respect her, but now I'm trying to figure out why I ever did.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:04:48am |
Dear Ms. Geller:
Imagine conservatism (Reagan-style conservatism) to be a nice, hot, juicy apple pie. With flaky crusts, and steam, and juices bubbling up. You get the picture.
Now, imagine that the crazy wingnut or racism stuff is a big steaming pile of poo. Calling for the death of small children is poo, straight up. Trooferism is poo. Hating entire nations is poo.
Call me crazy, but I do not wish poo in my pie.
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:05:36am |
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:06:16am |
re: #211 Sharmuta
Hi Sharm! Uh, I'd guess it's more than 80%; I think she approaches about 95%.
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funky chicken Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:06:26am |
re: #85 jwb7605
Your comment reminds me of an article on Politico on Bill Cosby.
I applaud half the message. (The sound of one hand clapping)
Sad. Cosby says things that blacks need to hear, but still thinks whites/conservatives are racist....like all those racists who have made him rich and have supported his message to black parents while blacks like Maxine Waters have blasted him.
Louis Farrakhan encourages blacks to behave responsibly and actually parent their children too.
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Bobblehead Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:06:35am |
re: #175 Charles
Yeah, no big deal to call for someone to be physically harmed, right? I gotta stop being so sensitive.
Advocating physical violence on a fellow conservative blogger, even one with whom you have such divergent views, is the type of verbal abuse I've come to expect of the raving moonbat crowd. I'm embarrassed for her.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:06:42am |
I am very pleased to see the lunatic fringe identifying itself so early and so plainly. It will greatly facilitate the task of rebuilding the conservative opposition in time for 2012.
If Malcolm X really were Obama's father, there would be no question of the Messiah's eligibility, since both Malcolm and Anne were indisputably American citizens.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:07:14am |
re: #154 Ringo the Gringo
Ya think?...I saw one youtube video (I only found it because it was being ridiculed at a leftwing blog) of her, apparently drunk, lipsynching My Sharona with two teenage girls....It was the kind of video any normal person would want destroyed; she posted it on youtube.
Ringo - she was not lip-synching - she was singing, along the music from My Sharona - but if I recall, the song she sang had to do with her "va-jay-jay" or something.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:07:17am |
Is this woman the one that had her pic taken with Cindy Shehag and was flipping her middle finger?
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:07:22am |
re: #223 Charles
Yep, he sent me the same thing in email. I'm trying to decide if it's worth posting.
Well, as you say, he failed to address a single factual point about the staged video.
Someone posted it in the comments a thread or two ago and it was being nicely dissected last I looked.
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Bobblehead Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:07:38am |
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notutopia Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:08:23am |
re: #179 realwest
Hmmm:
Registered since: May 23, 2007 at 12:00 pm
(Logged in)No. of comments posted: 2
No. of links posted: 0Some of you sleepers are really, really good! Strange for you to make two posts and that was one of 'em.
For the record, I wish Pamela no harm, but wish she'd just...........go away already.
Realwest...flogging IS wishing harm.
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new2thezoo Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:08:56am |
Now you've gone and done it... too bad... stew in your uncreation juice. Atlas is a gem... tah, tah.
Fire away zoids.
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:09:43am |
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:10:09am |
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:10:16am |
re: #235 Shiplord Kirel
Good afternoon Shiplord. Excellent comment. Thanks.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:10:20am |
I should state, I don't wish pamela any harm- I wish her sanity, modesty, and a conscience.
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notutopia Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:10:26am |
re: #234 Bobblehead
Advocating physical violence on a fellow conservative blogger, even one with whom you have such divergent views, is the type of verbal abuse I've come to expect of the raving moonbat crowd. I'm embarrassed for her.
Save your embarrassment. You're not responsible for her behavior. Thank Goodness...we'd all have no embarrassment left if we used it up on these Nazi lovers.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:10:58am |
re: #243 new2thezoo
Ummmm. You are aware the VB is nazis' under different colors, right?
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:11:13am |
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:11:29am |
re: #248 Sharmuta
I should state, I don't wish pamela any harm- I wish her sanity, modesty, and a conscience.
Amen.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:11:37am |
Is John Bolton aware of this? Hope he doesn't keep granting her interviews.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:12:12am |
re: #241 notutopia
Yes, but I wish her no physical harm at all. That she said that about Charles reveals more of her lack of character than anything else. But it still doesn't justify wishing physical harm to her.
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NY Nana Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:12:33am |
Eureka! I have found Atlas a perfect lawyer! If Ann France is licensed in the U.S.? The 'dream team' as client and attorney!
Now who would be good to portray them in the TV movie? Any suggestions? Of course it would have to be filmed inside the locked facility they would be placed in.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:12:54am |
re: #255 Sharmuta
He may be doing it to hope some common sense sinks in.
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Shiplord Kirel Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:12:55am |
re: #247 realwest
Good afternoon Shiplord. Excellent comment. Thanks.
Many thanks, Realwest. I always appreciate your comments.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:13:17am |
re: #253 Nancy
My, my --isn't Charles just so special!
um -
What's it to you if we think he is?
Hmmm?
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Bobblehead Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:13:49am |
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arcatan Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:13:56am |
To be sure the Obama/Malcom X thing was posted on a comedy web-site.
Who's gonna unite the non-Left blogs? I thought it was Charles. I search through the conservative media daily and find mainly disunity, no common thread. The National Review seems
We can't afford disunity while the Left is resurgent. Someone has to put up a big tent and invite everyone, start a committee that represents all major players and get it together. Each one has its own perspective but those combined perspectives should point to a whole.
My belief is that our main goal is to keep the insane Left from imposing their child's fantasy-land crap on the world while maintaining adherence to our most fundamental beliefs.
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:13:58am |
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:14:32am |
re: #246 reine.de.tout
Read this thread and comments.
LOLOLOLOLOL! I've been gone for a while and didn't see that one. Thanks!
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NY Nana Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:15:04am |
re: #258 Lynn B.
/Think that Pamela might be reading this thread, and sending her robots over here if they are registered?
Nah, that would require an IQ over 8.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:15:17am |
re: #263 Bubblehead II
That's what I thought. Thanks. Just wanted to be sure. OMG! Did y'all know there's a rapidly deteriorating humanitarian problem in Gaza? Stop the presses! Asshat journos.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:15:18am |
If I didn't know any better, I'd almost think we should *wave*.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:15:35am |
re: #265 arcatan
It's National Review, not The National Review, and it's what?
Waiting for the rest of the sentence.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:16:10am |
re: #265 arcatan
Respectfully, I think you're heart is in the right place, but no tent I'd get under would allow fascists entry. NONE.
No Fascists in my foxhole.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:16:35am |
re: #215 MandyManners
I'd be concerned about people knowing what I looked like if I was running a blog as well-known as hers.
There was a post on the NYC Indymedia of protesters verbally abusing her at some event.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:17:14am |
re: #262 reine.de.tout
um -
What's it to you if we think he is?
Hmmm?
Here's a ding for lagniappe. :)
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:17:15am |
re: #271 Sharmuta
We could do a Monty Python and wave our private parts in her general direction! :)
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:17:20am |
re: #269 NY Nana
/Think that Pamela might be reading this thread, and sending her robots over here if they are registered?
Nah, that would require an IQ over 8.
They were programmed to awaken when a thread was posted including the words "publicly flogged."
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:17:47am |
re: #275 Who Watches the Watchmen?
There was a post on the NYC Indymedia of protesters verbally abusing her at some event.
Narcissists thrive even negative attention.
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NY Nana Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:18:00am |
re: #255 Sharmuta
Seriously, I wonder if any Lizard knows him, and could contact him?
/Coming to a theatre near you! Atlas posts at LGF2 and GCP!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:19:09am |
Aaarrrggghhh! I missed this when it was first posted! Now I'm late with my usual, "I don't like that woman," quote.
Actually, I hate that woman, but it wasn't all too safe to say that until now.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:19:37am |
re: #277 pingjockey
Please- pamela is enough of an ass alone for the entire situation.
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:19:45am |
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:19:47am |
re: #282 realwest
Well, I know, but it's such a funny line. A mass mooning might get our point across.
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NY Nana Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:20:33am |
re: #278 Lynn B.
They were programmed to awaken when a thread was posted including the words "publicly flogged."
A small electrical impulse, possibly?
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:20:49am |
re: #285 Sharmuta
Oh come on. Or "now go away. before I have to insult you some more".
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NY Nana Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:21:24am |
re: #286 gclaghorn
I've got a million of them....a potty mouth am I!
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:21:31am |
re: #280 pingjockey
Thanks ping. That really is the problem with Atlas.
And, as you may know, comments at her blog used to be monitored - she hadda approve them before allowing them to appear. On the day she said Charles was "aligned" with CAIR, there were SO MANY VICIOUS PERSONAL ATTACKS on Charles, that I could no longer think of her in "kind but wrong terms".
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:22:22am |
The last time we discussed this winged nut, a Lizard asked us to show restraint because she wasn't really a bad person.
Uh huh.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:22:31am |
I'm so very disappointed that Paul Martin will not be coming over for dinner discussion.
I'm going to post my question for him anyway:
Given the fact that the Palestinians have routinely lied in the media releases and faked videos and situations over the years, what extra precautions do you take when dealing with Palestinian journalists? Do you hire medical, military, or linguistic experts to verify the video you are given?
Do you ever require hard proof?
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:22:39am |
It shouldn't be surprising, I guess. Promoting violent fantasies are what pamela's new friends are all about.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:22:59am |
re: #291 realwest
Pardon me, "aligned with CAIR"? Thank God I missed that one. No fascists of any stripe ever!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:23:32am |
re: #291 realwest
Thanks ping. That really is the problem with Atlas.
And, as you may know, comments at her blog used to be monitored - she hadda approve them before allowing them to appear. On the day she said Charles was "aligned" with CAIR, there were SO MANY VICIOUS PERSONAL ATTACKS on Charles, that I could no longer think of her in "kind but wrong terms".
Mornin' Real! Very well said, sir!
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rightymouse Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:23:39am |
265 arcatan
Someone has to put up a big tent and invite everyone, start a committee that represents all major players and get it together. Each one has its own perspective but those combined perspectives should point to a whole.
We all know how well the United Nations and their various councils function, eh?
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DistantThunder Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:24:25am |
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Nancy Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:24:37am |
re: #262 reine.de.tout
I meant that favorably to Charles but sarcastically that Pam Geller must think he is special enough to single him out for a "public flogging."
Which could be a "metaphor" that she is using to stir up her OWN wish to continue the verbal flogging. Being ignored doesn't seem to suit her.
Should have made that clear.....She is the one who doesn't want to seem to "let go" and accept that he --and others --are free and entitled to disagree with her positions.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:24:40am |
Y'all want to make a pile of money? Go to DC and open a one day day care. The installation of the obambi will be family unfriendly.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:26:19am |
re: #299 Nancy
I meant that favorably to Charles but sarcastically that Pam Geller must think he is special enough to single him out for a "public flogging."
Which could be a "metaphor" that she is using to stir up her OWN wish to continue the verbal flogging. Being ignored doesn't seem to suit her.
Should have made that clear.....She is the one who doesn't want to seem to "let go" and accept that he --and others --are free and entitled to disagree with her positions.
And that is my most fervent wish for this woman - that she be ignored.
After, of course, she is exposed as the bitter, deranged woman she is.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:26:40am |
re: #265 arcatan
To be sure the Obama/Malcom X thing was posted on a comedy web-site.
If you're going to post your opinions on this, it would help if you first informed yourself about the facts. The link goes to a comedy website to show you just how much of a laughingstock Pamela has become. But they didn't make anything up -- she really did post a long, disturbingly racist and ugly post about Obama being the child of Malcolm X, and it was no joke.
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phoenixgirl Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:27:41am |
re: #299 Nancy
I meant that favorably to Charles but sarcastically that Pam Geller must think he is special enough to single him out for a "public flogging."
Which could be a "metaphor" that she is using to stir up her OWN wish to continue the verbal flogging. Being ignored doesn't seem to suit her.
Should have made that clear.....She is the one who doesn't want to seem to "let go" and accept that he --and others --are free and entitled to disagree with her positions.
well i hope you negs are reversed then
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:28:06am |
re: #302 Charles
Has she gone totally around the bend? A few fries short of a Happy Meal?
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:28:23am |
re: #265 arcatan
To be sure the Obama/Malcom X thing was posted on a comedy web-site.
Who's gonna unite the non-Left blogs? I thought it was Charles. I search through the conservative media daily and find mainly disunity, no common thread. The National Review seems
We can't afford disunity while the Left is resurgent. Someone has to put up a big tent and invite everyone, start a committee that represents all major players and get it together. Each one has its own perspective but those combined perspectives should point to a whole.
My belief is that our main goal is to keep the insane Left from imposing their child's fantasy-land crap on the world while maintaining adherence to our most fundamental beliefs.
I thought you didn't like us?
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:28:53am |
re: #302 Charles
If you're going to post your opinions on this, it would help if you first informed yourself about the facts. The link goes to a comedy website to show you just how much of a laughingstock Pamela has become. But they didn't make anything up -- she really did post a long, disturbingly racist and ugly post about Obama being the child of Malcolm X, and it was no joke.
And she is only about 150 votes behind LGF in the Weblog Awards voting. Please people, let's move ahead of this broad!
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:28:58am |
re: #295 pingjockey
Yep. That's what she said when she unleashed her first attack on Charles on her blog. Her commenters were MUCH worse than that and she approved every one of those comments.
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:29:42am |
re: #299 Nancy
I meant that favorably to Charles but sarcastically that Pam Geller must think he is special enough to single him out for a "public flogging."
Which could be a "metaphor" that she is using to stir up her OWN wish to continue the verbal flogging. Being ignored doesn't seem to suit her.
Should have made that clear.....She is the one who doesn't want to seem to "let go" and accept that he --and others --are free and entitled to disagree with her positions.
Then I apologize.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:30:02am |
re: #277 pingjockey
We could do a Monty Python and wave our private parts in her general direction! :)
Or fart in her general direction...
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:30:02am |
re: #306 Bloodnok
I thought you didn't like us?
I remember that thread- some of the most vile misogyny I've ever read.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:30:14am |
re: #308 realwest
I do not understand the hatred and vitriol these people have.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:31:17am |
re: #311 Sharmuta
I remember that thread- some of the most vile misogyny I've ever read.
I debated posting a link to it because I didn't want to dredge up that garbage. But his flameout was just so eloquent.
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itellu3times Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:31:17am |
re: #223 Charles
Yep, he sent me the same thing in email. I'm trying to decide if it's worth posting.
Hmm. It seems a reasonable statement to me. If it's reasonably obtuse about the effect of such a film in context, well, we don't require front-line reporters, or even segment producers, to be big-picture types. Martin seems to leave open the possibility that the CPR was indeed for show, if not for the cameras, then for the family - who happened to be carrying the camera, in this case, hence the confusion. That a Palestinian ER does not resemble a network TV show ER, does not shock me, no doubt even a dumb-show in a US emergency room would be far more vigorous. Maybe we need to ship a boatload of medical malpractice lawyers to Gaza to get them up to speed.
None of this improve the video, but perhaps it helps explain Martin.
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AuntAcid Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:31:38am |
re: #277 pingjockey
We could do a Monty Python and wave our private parts in her general direction! :)
Fart in her direction.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:31:43am |
re: #305 pingjockey
Has she gone totally around the bend? A few fries short of a Happy Meal?
She's a Happy Meal short of a Happy Meal. Crazy woman.
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jaunte Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:31:58am |
re: #312 pingjockey
What mystifies me is their delusions of effectiveness.
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:32:03am |
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phoenixgirl Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:32:25am |
re: #313 Sharmuta
i didn't think the reversal function was necessary when it was announced......i think it's a good thing now. {sharmuta}
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:32:27am |
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:32:28am |
re: #312 pingjockey I don't either ping and I think it says something good about us that we don't understand it!
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:32:42am |
re: #321 gclaghorn
No toy for her!
Most of those toys are for kids 3 and Up. Mentally, she doesn't qualify.
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:33:06am |
re: #326 Wyatt Earp
Most of those toys are for kids 3 and Up. Mentally, she doesn't qualify.
We wouldn't want her to hurt herself.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:33:18am |
re: #315 Bloodnok
I debated posting a link to it because I didn't want to dredge up that garbage. But his flameout was just so eloquent.
Sometimes it's good, so others can get an idea of whom they're dealing.
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notutopia Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:33:32am |
re: #257 realwest
Yes, but I wish her no physical harm at all. That she said that about Charles reveals more of her lack of character than anything else. But it still doesn't justify wishing physical harm to her.
I have advocated no harm to her.
She is doing the advocating of harm.
Besides, she does more harm to herself and her cause, than anyone else.
Hope one day she will realize this...but doubtful.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:33:40am |
re: #324 realwest
Yah! OK, who's gonna win, dah G-men or dah Iggles?
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NY Nana Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:34:05am |
re: #245 gclaghorn
The Addams family?
No. I feel sorry for her daughters. They are being used by their mother, and that just is not fair.
All I can say is that she really adores her daughters, and does not seem to understand that using them so publicly can only harm them emotionally. I would bet that they catch a lot of flack from their classmates.
She uses them like an accessory. Our kids are supposed to be just that when they are young...kids. IIRC, they are in their teens now.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:34:47am |
re: #328 jaunte
Bad grammer iz gud. I spent 20 yers in dah navy. So I went to the Jon Halp uz Kary laguage skool!
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:34:51am |
re: #331 pingjockey What kinda question is that?! You know the GIANTS WILL WIN - BIG!
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Nancy Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:34:58am |
re: #309 gclaghorn
I am a staunch supporter of Charles and Little Green Footballs and no supporter of Atlas Shrugs.
I remember years ago when she posted on here all the time.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:35:46am |
re: #333 pingjockey
As long as you didn't learn navigation from the same folks who "taught" him, you're ok!
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:35:57am |
re: #335 Nancy
I am a staunch supporter of Charles and Little Green Footballs and no supporter of Atlas Shrugs.
I remember years ago when she posted on here all the time.
Again, I apologize. What was her nic?
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Macker Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:36:22am |
re: #35 Jetpilot1101
Charles and her seem to share the same mission to expose the left and defend Israel but unfortunately, it seems that she is willing to turn a blind eye to some pretty bad supremacist stuff in order to do it. I commend Charles on exposing the nationalists over there for what they are and not joining their side just because there is a common enemy. Looks like Pam has a log in her eye.
Are you sure it's a "log"...or something else?
/snicker
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:36:33am |
re: #334 realwest
I think it's gonna depend on which Eli shows up.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:37:21am |
re: #336 realwest
Nah. Took my navigation classes aboard ship. Real naviguessers, not Karys!
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Jimmy The Clam Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:37:23am |
re: #175 Charles
Yeah, no big deal to call for someone to be physically harmed, right? I gotta stop being so sensitive.
If you honestly think her post was a sincere call to arms for her readership to physically whip you, then yeah, I would say you are being too sensitive.
Then again if you don't really believe that, then maybe you shouldn't pretend to?
Manufactured outrage never wears well... on anyone.
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FrogMarch Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:37:31am |
re: #130 Lynn B.
He made an appearance at Augean Stables. Comment #13. If he bothers to come here, I suspect we'll just get the same garbage.
from your link:
This is rich. Note that CNN did not consult a doctor on this one, but Martin’s experience in Gaza. I’ve consulted a doctor and a number of people with experience in CPR have commented both at my article at PJMedia and at LGF. But here it’s Martin’s long experience in Gaza that comes into play. There are two ways to explain this remark, neither of them working in the way Martin would like.
* 1) Doctors in Gaza are so incompetent that what appears to Western experts as a joke, really is their best effort. The incompetence is doubled by Martin’s qualifying remark: as commenters have noted, if the patient is dying, the CPR should be more vigorous.
* 2) Doctors “often go through such efforts even with little hope that a patient can be saved” as long as the cameras are rolling. Maybe Martin wasn’t paying attention to that detail.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:37:38am |
re: #314 pingjockey
That'd work too!
Yes! And we shall taunt her a second time-uh.
Fetchez la vache!
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:37:42am |
re: #316 itellu3times
Hmm. It seems a reasonable statement to me. If it's reasonably obtuse about the effect of such a film in context, well, we don't require front-line reporters, or even segment producers, to be big-picture types. Martin seems to leave open the possibility that the CPR was indeed for show, if not for the cameras, then for the family - who happened to be carrying the camera, in this case, hence the confusion. That a Palestinian ER does not resemble a network TV show ER, does not shock me, no doubt even a dumb-show in a US emergency room would be far more vigorous. Maybe we need to ship a boatload of medical malpractice lawyers to Gaza to get them up to speed.
None of this improve the video, but perhaps it helps explain Martin.
I don't know what you're reading but the comment I read explained nothing, denied everything and absurdly demanded an apology without presenting a shred of evidence indicating that one was due. If that's the best he could come up with, he's in worse trouble than I thought.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:38:21am |
re: #342 jaunte
Bwahaha! That man is the very definition of "walking clusterfuck".
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:39:14am |
re: #339 pingjockey
Well given the weather conditions, I think it's gonna depend on the O line and Jacobs - if he's at full strength, and the O line produces the way it has all year, it's gonna be a looong day for the Eagles.
I mean, think about it - how many NFL teams have TWO running backs that each went over the 1,000 yard mark?!
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Nancy Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:39:15am |
re: #337 gclaghorn
It's OK --I should have phrased it better.
Her "name" on here was Atlas Shrugs -or maybe it was Shrugged.
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funky chicken Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:39:23am |
re: #270 pingjockey
That's what I thought. Thanks. Just wanted to be sure. OMG! Did y'all know there's a rapidly deteriorating humanitarian problem in Gaza? Stop the presses! Asshat journos.
I think I've heard that story before. Was it 2000? 1995? 1992? 1980? etc
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:39:42am |
re: #345 Spiny Norman
Damn, me no parlez' vous. I know merde and merci and that's it!
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AuntAcid Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:40:00am |
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DistantThunder Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:40:33am |
re: #343 Jimmy The Clam
If you honestly think her post was a sincere call to arms for her readership to physically whip you, then yeah, I would say you are being too sensitive.
Then again if you don't really believe that, then maybe you shouldn't pretend to?Manufactured outrage never wears well... on anyone.
Charles didn't seem outraged - rather bemused - and we've all had our fun this morning poking at poor unhinged Pamela. What's the harm?
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:41:22am |
re: #353 AuntAcid
Nah. Misremembered! Only seen that darn movie 100 times! Think I could remember better than that! Sheesh.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:41:34am |
re: #355 DistantThunder
Charles didn't seem outraged - rather bemused - and we've all had our fun this morning poking at poor unhinged Pamela. What's the harm?
Bemused because Pamela is a laughing stock. She should be pitied.
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:42:11am |
re: #357 Wyatt Earp
Bemused because Pamela is a laughing stock. She should be pitied.
And she doesn't even get why she's a laughingstock. She just keeps on being a nut.
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Nancy Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:42:45am |
re: #340 realwest
Did she post here as Pamela or Atlas Shrugs? Or maybe both?
Did she have her own website when she started posting here? As I recall, she was on here a lot.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:42:54am |
re: #358 gclaghorn
And she doesn't even get why she's a laughingstock. She just keeps on being a nut.
Well, you know what she says, "Go with your strengths." Heh.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:43:01am |
re: #352 pingjockey
Damn, me no parlez' vous. I know merde and merci and that's it!
::launches cow with a catapult::
Moooooo!
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:43:05am |
re: #357 Wyatt Earp
Laughing stock yes, pitied no. She has to know who these fascists really are or is deliberatly turning a blind eye to their agenda.
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:43:09am |
re: #343 Jimmy The Clam
Charles said he's fairly sure she's serious. What else do you think he needs to say?
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notutopia Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:43:17am |
re: #343 Jimmy The Clam
If you honestly think her post was a sincere call to arms for her readership to physically whip you, then yeah, I would say you are being too sensitive.
Then again if you don't really believe that, then maybe you shouldn't pretend to?Manufactured outrage never wears well... on anyone.
Manufactured outrage never wears well... on anyone.
Then please , when you go back to report to her, tell her this ...Flogging wishes are not wearing well on her.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:43:24am |
re: #343 Jimmy The Clam
If you honestly think her post was a sincere call to arms for her readership to physically whip you, then yeah, I would say you are being too sensitive.
Then again if you don't really believe that, then maybe you shouldn't pretend to?Manufactured outrage never wears well... on anyone.
Go fuck yourself.
/don't take it so hard. You don't really think I mean to actually go fuck yourself, do you?
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gclaghorn Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:44:33am |
re: #343 Jimmy The Clam
If you honestly think her post was a sincere call to arms for her readership to physically whip you, then yeah, I would say you are being too sensitive.
Then again if you don't really believe that, then maybe you shouldn't pretend to?Manufactured outrage never wears well... on anyone.
Pamela completely lacks a sense of humor. Why should I believe that she's suddenly adopted one?
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:44:36am |
re: #359 Nancy Well as I said I think she posted as Pamela - but I could be wrong. But yes, she posted here frequently even after her own blog was up and running.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:46:02am |
re: #362 pingjockey
Laughing stock yes, pitied no. She has to know who these fascists really are or is deliberatly turning a blind eye to their agenda.
Yeah, I guess I was trying to be better than she is. No real effort there.
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funky chicken Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:46:12am |
re: #357 Wyatt Earp
I do pity her. I think she has a serious anxiety disorder, and also a serious alcohol problem.
I guess I pity her daughters more.
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:46:18am |
re: #361 Spiny Norman
Mwahaha! I have 3 boys. 17, 15, 8. They think the flying cow is great and of course the weight of swallows with or without coconuts is a scream.
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RiverRat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:46:19am |
Just posted at Pamela's site:
Pamela,
I read your work for a long time and took a break when you started attacking Charles and the Lizards.
Would you chill out a little? You sure as hell wouldn't support the neo-nazis in the US just because they might elect to support the Israeli cause, would you?
A racially motivated fascist enemy of our enemies is still a racially motivated fascist. The VB and the BNP "are" racially motivated fascists imho.
If they're successful in the battle against Islam their next target will be Judaism just as it's been in Europe for centuries. They're targeting the biggest threat to the ideology first. If they're lucky and win you'll be next..!
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jaunte Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:46:50am |
If you tell your readers
to go flog a lizard
you could be construed
as rude
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notutopia Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:47:41am |
re: #369 funky chicken
I do pity her. I think she has a serious anxiety disorder, and also a serious alcohol problem.
I guess I pity her daughters more.
Really. There's medications for all of those.
No excuses.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:47:58am |
re: #371 RiverRat
Just posted at Pamela's site:
Pamela,
I read your work for a long time and took a break when you started attacking Charles and the Lizards.
Would you chill out a little? You sure as hell wouldn't support the neo-nazis in the US just because they might elect to support the Israeli cause, would you?
A racially motivated fascist enemy of our enemies is still a racially motivated fascist. The VB and the BNP "are" racially motivated fascists imho.
If they're successful in the battle against Islam their next target will be Judaism just as it's been in Europe for centuries. They're targeting the biggest threat to the ideology first. If they're lucky and win you'll be next..!
And that comment will be viciously attacked in 4 . . 3 . . 2 . .
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:49:18am |
re: #362 pingjockey
At first I thought it was a blind eye, but after Charles posted his caution to all "good" counter-jihadists, she was in full attack dog mode and has subsequently associated with people and organizations who are know fascists.
Indeed she said something so outrageous that I've blocked the actual quote but it was something about all Europeans being collaborators when the Nazi's conquered their countries (this was over something Fjordman had said).
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:49:19am |
re: #294 Sharmuta
It shouldn't be surprising, I guess. Promoting violent fantasies are what pamela's new friends are all about.
I wonder if she has thigh-high leather boots and a whip.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:49:46am |
re: #379 MandyManners
I wonder if she has thigh-high leather boots and a whip.
See the video where she is singing to the tune of "My Sharona".
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realwest Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:51:05am |
Well I'm outta here for lunch y'all! Have a great day and I hope I get the chance to see you all down the road.
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Wyatt Earp Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:51:06am |
re: #379 MandyManners
I wonder if she has thigh-high leather boots and a whip.
I just threw up in my mouth a little. Although, she probably is a Dyanne Thorne fan.
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MandyManners Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:51:15am |
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RiverRat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:51:58am |
re: #376 Wyatt Earp
And that comment will be viciously attacked in 4 . . 3 . . 2 . .
That's what I'm hoping for! :-)
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rightymouse Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:52:19am |
re: #358 gclaghorn
And she doesn't even get why she's a laughingstock. She just keeps on being a nut.
At first I thought that she had made an emotional investment to back VB rather than take a sober look at what that investment would mean for her credibility for the long term - a lapse of judgement where she had herself backed into a corner. It was difficult to believe that anyone with any brains could be that foolish for very long. The Malcolm X/Obama nonsense told me that this was a more serious problem.
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rightymouse Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:53:57am |
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:54:50am |
re: #359 Nancy
Did she post here as Pamela or Atlas Shrugs? Or maybe both?
Did she have her own website when she started posting here? As I recall, she was on here a lot.
atlasshruggs. And no, she started her blog after she'd been commenting here for quite some time.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:55:39am |
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pingjockey Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:55:59am |
BBIAW, time for more important things than Pamelas' mental state, the NFL!
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:57:24am |
re: #389 Spiny Norman
atlasshruggs. And no, she started her blog after she'd been commenting here for quite some time.
atlasshrugged, rather. There is an occasional poster "Pamela", but I'm quite certain it's not her.
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nemesis443 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:07:29am |
Will she wear spandex and spike leather heels? Ooh!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:09:41am |
re: #93 jaunte
So, reading the posting about the 'great works' of the counter jihad movement at Geller's site, we find this substance: in total, Vlaams Belang:
- voted against a parliament resolution condemning the "disproportionate" violence of Israel in Gaza
- called for a special meeting of Antwerp city council to discuss riots and demonstration
- complained to the mayor that nothing was done1. Are these considered important anti-jihad efforts?
2. In what way were Vlaams Belang hampered in these minor efforts by LGF
Excellent questions, jaunte.
I would have to say "yes"- complaining is a key element of anti-jihad, as is happy hour in Antwerp, and running stalker blogs.
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Smorgasbord Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:14:34am |
Why not give Pamela Geller what she wants. Create a video of Hamas flogging you. As they are flogging you, they are giving their normal chants. Before each flog is given they say what THAT ONE is for. Each one would be for a faked picture, video, or lie you revealed. Since you revealed so many of them, you will have a lot of flogs coming. I hope you have a high tolerance for pain.
The coup de grace would be when they cut off your head and parade it around. Of course, in your video your head would still be telling about the lies and atrocities that Hamas has done. They would have to stuff something in your mouth to shut you up.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:34:04am |
Quick Hebrew question: I was watching a movie the other night and one of the actors had a tattoo on his arm reading שאה. I checked my Hebrew-English dictionary but couldn't find it, so I assume it's an inflected form of a root that starts with שא. "Roar," maybe?
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:37:11am |
Can someone explain why Vlaams Belang, one of a handful of groups trying to combat this sudden and alarming rise of Islamic and left wing antisemitism in the Netherlands is being castigated?
How about a lizard army going over there to confront the Dutch and Belgian Muslims and tackling the antisemitism there head-on!
Oh, I forgot, it's alright for you guys cossetted in America, while we in Europe are on the brink of another Holocaust - and before you say anything, not all Jews have the money to get out...
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RiverRat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:46:57am |
re: #400 Nannette
So who's the target of your new holocaust, Nanette? Just the fascists like Vlaams Belang? What happens if the fascistic groups like VB prevail?
Will Jews, Catholics, and all others infidels of differing beliefs be their next targets?
Just asking!
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:50:58am |
#401 RiverRat
You've obviously not been listening to the news, but the Jews are targets everywhere now...
Read the latest from Mark Steyn
In Amsterdam, the crowd shouts, “Hamas, Hamas! Jews to the gas!”
In Paris, the state-owned TV network France-2 broadcasts film of dozens of dead Palestinians killed in an Israeli air raid on New Year’s Day. The channel subsequently admits that, in fact, the footage is not from January 1st 2009 but from 2005, and, while the corpses are certainly Palestinian, they were killed when a truck loaded with Hamas explosives detonated prematurely while leaving the Jabaliya refugee camp in another of those unfortunate work-related accidents to which Gaza is sadly prone. Conceding that the Palestinians supposedly killed by Israel were, alas, killed by Hamas, France-2 says the footage was broadcast “accidentally.”
In Toulouse, a synagogue is firebombed; in Bordeaux, two kosher butchers are attacked; at the Auber RER train station, a Jewish man is savagely assaulted by 20 youths taunting, “Palestine will kill the Jews;” in Villiers-le-Bel, a Jewish schoolgirl is brutally beaten by a gang jeering, “Jews must die.”
In Helsingborg, the congregation at a Swedish synagogue takes shelter as a window is broken and burning cloths thrown in; in Odense, principal Olav Nielsen announces that he will no longer admit Jewish children to the local school after a Dane of Lebanese extraction goes to the shopping mall and shoots two men working at the Dead Sea Products store; in Brussels, a Molotov cocktail is hurled at a Belgian synagogue; in Antwerp, lit rags are pushed through the mail flap of a Jewish home; and, across the Channel, “youths” attempt to burn the Brondesbury Park Synagogue.
In London, the police advise British Jews to review their security procedures because of potential revenge attacks. The Sun reports “fears” that “Islamic extremists” are drawing up a “hit list” of prominent Jews, including the Foreign Secretary, Amy Winehouse’s record producer, and the late Princess of Wales’s divorce lawyer. Meanwhile, The Guardian reports that Islamic non-extremists from the British Muslim Forum, the Islamic Foundation and other impeccably respectable “moderate” groups have warned the government that the Israelis’ “disproportionate force” in Gaza risks inflaming British Muslims, “reviving extremist groups,” and provoking “UK terrorist attacks” — not against Amy Winehouse’s record producer and other sinister members of the International Jewish Conspiracy but against targets of, ah, more general interest.
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FloridaAnole Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:52:41am |
This Pamela person is a bit of an exhibitionist, no?
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:54:20am |
re: #400 Nannette
Can someone explain why Vlaams Belang, one of a handful of groups trying to combat this sudden and alarming rise of Islamic and left wing antisemitism in the Netherlands is being castigated?
How about a lizard army going over there to confront the Dutch and Belgian Muslims and tackling the antisemitism there head-on!
Oh, I forgot, it's alright for you guys cossetted in America, while we in Europe are on the brink of another Holocaust - and before you say anything, not all Jews have the money to get out...
Check the Tag Cloud. It is well documented on this site.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:55:01am |
re: #400 Nannette
They are being castigated because they're their white nationalists.
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Athos Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:57:31am |
It seems as if Pamela has foregotten the first rule when one has dug oneself into a hole.....stop digging.
Her blind support of VB and the other Euronazi (is supporting Stormfront far behind? - I guess it would depend on how aggressively Stormfront wants to fight islamists.) fascists was where she entered her hole.
After all, to her, fascists who have no real traction or viable support apparently are the last great hope for Western civilization's fight against islamofascists despite their fringe status. And all those who oppose fascism in any and all forms, apparently deserve to be 'flogged'? This goes beyond pathetic. It's shrill and deranged.....and unfortunately, embracing the very core evil she says she is trying to fight.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 10:59:03am |
Bloodnok and Sharmuta,
We'll take any support coming our way right now. The incitement over here in London is diabolical, and with over 200 antisemitic attacks in the past week, we're not exactly the most relaxed group of people. We still have vivid memories of 1930's Europe - and it's happening again.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:00:32am |
re: #408 Nannette
Bloodnok and Sharmuta,
We'll take any support coming our way right now. The incitement over here in London is diabolical, and with over 200 antisemitic attacks in the past week, we're not exactly the most relaxed group of people. We still have vivid memories of 1930's Europe - and it's happening again.
And you want to support the very people born of the ashes of the 30s. Helloooooo!
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:04:42am |
If you lived in Europe, you'd understand that Vlaams Belang isn't as bad as you make out.
They're as bad as our present government, which used to support George Galloway, who's now called for a boycott of all Jewish shops and businesses...
Vlaams Belang also throw out their bad apples, but in Europe, mud doesn't always stick.
And the latest from the BNP is that their enemy's enemy is their friend - so now they want to be friends with the Jews!
They hate Islamists more than they hate Jews, so what can I say... just don't worry too much about us, the same thing will happen soon in the USA, I'm sure of it!
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pokeefe Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:06:47am |
C'mon ....
Pamela is the quintissential JAP: she's got money, good looks, and a pedigree that stretches back to Abraham.
She's lives in New Jersey, for Christ's sake.
She could be sitting around repainting her toenails for the hundredth time while she thinks about boffing the kid who cleans the pool, but, instead of that, she is full bore every day promoting a multitude of conservative causes.
She GOES to conservative conferences; she GOES to public demonstrations.
She gives a shit, and puts her money, her body, and her reputation where her mouth is.
She may take a stupid position now and then - who hasn't - but she's on the right side of the fence, and we need all the help we can get.
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RiverRat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:07:25am |
re: #402 Nannette
Actually Nannette, I do read virtually of the news on this topic and you're right...the current target of the Islamists and the extreme left are Jewish. There really is nothing new about this in European and world history. Jews, being a small, vibrant, and successful tribe, are anathema to those who place themselves in the majority.
I'm just saying that associating ourselves with neo-nazi nationalistic opressors who were killing Jews by the millions 65 years ago may not be the best long-term solution.
This argument goes back to my first post in this tread. The enemy of our enemies may not really be our friends. Which I think has been Charles' point all along.
You can choose your friends but choose wisely, they may not really be your friends.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:08:06am |
And as for Pamela, she does some really good work for the Jews around the world, so just leave off.
Would everyone rather sit around and watch while Jews die?
Pamela fights for us... and for Israel, which is all we need to know.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:09:37am |
re: #410 Nannette
In your haste to pull up the castle gate from the islamist horde, you fail to notice the rot within the castle walls. Good luck.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:10:26am |
River Rat, thanks for your comment.
What we need right now are good allies, not friends... and where the allies come from doesn't matter, as long as they help create some sort of a balance between extreme antisemitism and a peaceful life.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:11:02am |
re: #414 Sharmuta
In your haste to pull up the castle gate from the islamist horde, you fail to notice the rot within the castle walls. Good luck.
I could not come close to saying that better if I tried.
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Athos Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:11:03am |
re: #400 Nannette
Can someone explain why Vlaams Belang, one of a handful of groups trying to combat this sudden and alarming rise of Islamic and left wing antisemitism in the Netherlands is being castigated?
Frankly, most posts like yours deserve the gaze. It's become a tired refrain from euros to complain about Charles' and many others here on LGF deciding that they will not embrace any form of fascism in order to fight islamofascism. Fascism in all forms is abhorrent and evil and that includes the racist fascism embraced by VB and other similar fringe parties across Europe.
We choose not to embrace and support any form of fascism. We further reject the whinges from the fringe that we are obligated to provide them what they crave and desire the most - recognition and respect for the simple reason that they desire to combat the rise of islamofascism in Europe. There is no need to trade one flavour of fascism for another - or to promote fringe groups from beyond the fringe where they have always existed.
Frankly, if these are the only groups that can 'save' Western Europe, then Western Europe is already lost in the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of socialism and the nanny state.
If those nations in Europe who have not already surrendered to one flavour or another of fascism decide to fight and oppose islamofascism from the position of traditional Western morals and ideals including capitalism and individual freedom and rights, then they will find many allies here because those are the ideals that do resonate with us.
Until then, spare us the 'join us to fight a common enemy' rubbish - we have a common enemy we are fighting already - and supporters of the Eurofascists are part of that common enemy.
(PS - I personally consider it complete rubbish, despite the claims to the contrary, that these Eurofascist groups have any interest to save / protect Jews in Western Europe. Their racial politics are such that once islamofascism is pushed back, anti-semitism is a short jump away. They fight this fight as a way to gain power, recognition, and support from the desperate / scared. That's what they really seek. We should not trade one form of fascism for another.)
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Athos Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:12:09am |
re: #408 Nannette
Bloodnok and Sharmuta,
We'll take any support coming our way right now. The incitement over here in London is diabolical, and with over 200 antisemitic attacks in the past week, we're not exactly the most relaxed group of people. We still have vivid memories of 1930's Europe - and it's happening again.
And the groups that you are calling us to support are seeking support from the desperate, scared, and disenfranchised in a manner very similar to those of fascist groups of the '20's.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:12:47am |
re: #414 Sharmuta
In your haste to pull up the castle gate from the islamist horde, you fail to notice the rot within the castle walls. Good luck.
Were you at any pro-Israel rallies today?
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imogene Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:13:04am |
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:14:18am |
re: #417 Athos
Frankly, if these are the only groups that can 'save' Western Europe, then Western Europe is already lost in the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of socialism and the nanny state.
Brilliantly stated.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:15:37am |
re: #419 Nannette
Were you at any pro-Israel rallies today?
No- I didn't have anything to wear and my hair is a mess, so I didn't want to get my picture taken today.
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Aye Pod Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:15:55am |
Google Images search : "Pamela Geller" Wafa Sultan
Pssst! Wafa - she's insane! Get the fuck out of there!
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:16:41am |
Two points:
1) The Vlaams Belang and their allies among Eurofascists (e.g. the French National Front and the BNP) are thugs with Holocaust-denying and neo-Nazi roots and connections. By associating with them, you're letting some very bad people trick you into becoming their friends. That's a moral reason not to have anything to do with them.
2) It's politically brain dead to associate with these groups. You will never convince anyone in the center of the issues by hooking up with Nazis and crypto-Nazis.
And it takes a special kind of blindness to tell me to "leave off," when Pamela writes on her blog that I should be "flogged in public."
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RiverRat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:17:36am |
re: #411 pokeefe
She's on the right side of the issue but she's choosing (long-term) enemies as friends and making enemies of (long-term) friends.
That's the whole Charles and Lizard argument. Shortsightedness!
Have you spent enough time on this site to understand it's one the strongest anti-semitic voices in the world?
With which I concur.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:17:52am |
BTW- I'm at a pro-Israel rally every day. It's called LGF.
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Bloodnok Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:18:22am |
By the way I think it is disturbing how Pamela and her ilk have reframed the VB argument into being solely about support for Israel (VB supports Israel -so if you dislike VB you dislike Israel). It's about white nationalism and fascism.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:19:34am |
re: #418 Athos
And the groups that you are calling us to support are seeking support from the desperate, scared, and disenfranchised in a manner very similar to those of fascist groups of the '20's.
Athos, for you in America, politics are very black and white. Here in Europe, there are a lot of grey areas, which is okay by us.
Some people say that UKIP is a far right party, because of some of their politics, but in actual fact, they're the only party who can take us out of the EUSSR and bring back patriotism, national identity and get rid of the thouasnds of Islamic terrorists on our shores invited by Nu Liebour.
The Nazis were far left contrary to what some think - they were the German Nationalist Socialist Workers party... and the EUSSR is very much on that track right now.
With Britain having CCTV every 8 feet, and with the government surveillance being used on ordinary people, instead of terrorists, such as people being fined for dropping an apple core, leaving their wheelie bins the wrong way round, or more than 6" from the kerb, and then being jailed for such trivilaities, we're afraid, very afraid.
And on top of this, we HAVE to write our religion and race on EVERY form we sign... which is just how the Nazis trapped the Jews and found most of them in the 1930's.
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avanti Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:19:47am |
re: #398 Iron Fist
If the tent is so big that it can encompass the hard Left and the hard Right, what, if anything, does it stand for?
I agree You'll never get the hard right and hard left together in any tent, heck not even the hard left with the left and hard right with the right. Having said that, it is possible to move the middle a bit. For example, someone on the right might support might a moderately pro choice candidate that's a fiscal consecutive, or someone of the left might support a otherwise qualified pro life person.
The problem is trying to win by going too far right or left to please your base. Obama managed to not piss off the far left while campaigning and picking up the center.
LGF for example pisses of some on the hard right with it's stand on evolution, but is otherwise a conservative blog as far as I can tell.
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Salamantis Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:20:40am |
re: #413 Nannette
And as for Pamela, she does some really good work for the Jews around the world, so just leave off.
Would everyone rather sit around and watch while Jews die?
Pamela fights for us... and for Israel, which is all we need to know.
My father and my uncles fought against the Nazis in WW II. One of my uncles died of wounds he sustained in that fighting. Many, many US citizens can say the same.
If you want to ensure that the US does not support european antijihadis, all you have to do is have the european antijihadis climb in bed with the ideological heirs of those who killed our immediate ancestors for the sake of world domination and exterminating Jews, the same goals that the jihadis themselves embrace.
And that is precisely the course that Pam is advocating and defending. While she calls for those who quite justifiably have a hard time with embracing such a tactically unwise and morally depraved course, and simply cannot stomach such a brimstone-scented deal, to be publicly flogged for their insight and decency.
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Aye Pod Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:23:17am |
re: #417 Athos
Frankly, if these are the only groups that can 'save' Western Europe, then Western Europe is already lost in the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of socialism and the nanny state.
Speaking of the UK where I am, these groups can't even stop fighting amongst themselves, never mind saving the world from the Islamists. They are a freakin joke.
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RiverRat Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:24:04am |
re: #425 RiverRat
Damn! Did I screw that up or what? Strongest contra anti-semitic voices in the world is what I meant to say.
Flame me now for not editing!
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:25:37am |
re: #424 Charles
Two points:
1) The Vlaams Belang and their allies among Eurofascists (e.g. the French National Front and the BNP) are thugs with Holocaust-denying and neo-Nazi roots and connections. By associating with them, you're letting some very bad people trick you into becoming their friends. That's a moral reason not to have anything to do with them.
2) It's politically brain dead to associate with these groups. You will never convince anyone in the center of the issues by hooking up with Nazis and crypto-Nazis.
And it takes a special kind of blindness to tell me to "leave off," when Pamela writes on her blog that I should be "flogged in public."
Dear Charles, I was telling the other lizards to "leave off", certainly not you in particular.
As for needing allies, insecurity makes for some very strange bedfellows. The "far right" are in danger of becoming minorities in their own countries and Jews are on the verge of another Holocaust.
We're not friends, and I'm certainly not friends with any of the far right, but we all need allies.
And our MAJOR political parties aren't Israel friendly. When rockets started coming over from Lebanon, and Israel DIDN'T respond, they were already making statements to the media calling for "restraint" on both sides, even though Israel didn't fire a shot!
And none of our politicians has yet spoken of the horrendous antisemitism on the streets here... but God help any of us if there's an Islamophobic incident - it makes headline news!
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Aye Pod Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:26:29am |
re: #428 Nannette
UKIP? LOL. They have a slightly better chance of getting elected into government than the Monster Raving Looney Party, but only slightly.
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avanti Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:26:40am |
re: #424 Charles
I agree completely. The Malcom X deal on the right loses votes for your side just as much as the Palin baby bull shit does for the left. Issues like that, and the birth certificate issue might get your base all excited, but hurts you with the rest.
Pamala's blog is popular with the loons on the right for the same reason Daily Kos is to the left.
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Aye Pod Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:31:25am |
re: #428 Nannette
And on top of this, we HAVE to write our religion and race on EVERY form we sign...
That's a lie, folks. Please take everything this self proclaimed spokesperson for the people of the UK tells you about life in Britain with a large pinch of salt.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:33:34am |
re: #434 Jimmah
UKIP? LOL. They have a slightly better chance of getting elected into government than the Monster Raving Looney Party, but only slightly.
I'd love for UKIP to get in, but the Tories will win the next one, if Gordon McBroon, our unelected PM, allows us a vote by then, and hasn't turned this country into a bankrup cesspit by then.
I'll also guarantee that BNP will get a few seats in the House... there's too much unrest up North from the traditional Liebour voters whom this sham of a government has let down, and pushed them into more poverty than when the Tories were in power.
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Athos Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:33:46am |
re: #428 Nannette
Even in America, politics is not black and white and very much in shades of gray. In fact, there is very little that is purely black and white - including good and evil. (ie - We enter shades of gray when good determines that it may have to do things that would normally be considered evil in order to stop evil.)
Political ideology is not linear, its circular. Fascism covers much of both the hard left and the hard right. All of it, from both the hard left and hard right, are enemies of those of us who believe in freedom, individual rights, and its core economic system - capitalism.
As Charles noted, these fringe political parties are not your friends and will not motivate the center to move against the very real threats you face from socialism and the nanny state. Europe has been seduced by the nanny state and the apathy to let others decide for themselves - and unsurprisingly to us in North America - have lost basic freedoms. Rather than flee to those who seek to leverage upon your fear and helplessness - trading one untenable situation for another - how about finding some backbone and a cogent argument to motivate the apathetic and fight from the center. If you can't, then as I noted before, you have already lost.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:37:08am |
re: #436 Jimmah
That's a lie, folks. Please take everything this self proclaimed spokesperson for the people of the UK tells you about life in Britain with a large pinch of salt.
Going into hospital you have to write your religion, getting help from social services, you have to write your religion, signing up with a new GP you write your religion, the latest poll tax forms, you write your religion, lost your job and need benefits you have to state your religion.
Obviously you don't write your religion on banking and other stuff, but generally when it comes to anything to do with the State, you have to write your religion, or ethnicity.
Tell me one state sponsored form where it doesn't mention ethnicity?
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:37:21am |
re: #411 pokeefe
C'mon ....
Pamela is the quintissential JAP: she's got money, good looks, and a pedigree that stretches back to Abraham.
She's lives in New Jersey, for Christ's sake.
She could be sitting around repainting her toenails for the hundredth time while she thinks about boffing the kid who cleans the pool, but, instead of that, she is full bore every day promoting a multitude of conservative causes.
She GOES to conservative conferences; she GOES to public demonstrations.
She gives a shit, and puts her money, her body, and her reputation where her mouth is.
She may take a stupid position now and then - who hasn't - but she's on the right side of the fence, and we need all the help we can get.
More importantly, enough to negate much of what you say to defend her, she willingly associates with neo-Nazis and racist crypto-fascists who would revert to form and turn on the European Jews as soon as Jihadi threat wanes. She's as much a groupie as an activist.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:40:55am |
438 Athos,
You're right. In this country, the Labour party were traditionally for the working class, and now they're far left, champagne socialist elites, who are no different to the Russian KGB politicians in power at the moment.
They've let down the people who voted for them and besides not keeping any promises they made when they got into power, and helping to make this country bankrupt, they're putting us in hock to the Saudis for the next couple of decades.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:43:46am |
440 Norman,
The Jihadist threat isn't going to wane, but will become much stronger, because of the conditions attached to us borrowing from the Saudis.
Bat Ye'ors book Eurabia is fast becoming reality and most people haven't even woken up to smell the coffee.
Just look at the demographics and how they've changed in the last 5 years!
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:44:39am |
re: #442 Nannette
440 Norman,
The Jihadist threat isn't going to wane, but will become much stronger, because of the conditions attached to us borrowing from the Saudis.
Bat Ye'ors book Eurabia is fast becoming reality and most people haven't even woken up to smell the coffee.
Just look at the demographics and how they've changed in the last 5 years!
None of this excuses empowering nazis.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:47:08am |
re: #443 Sharmuta
None of this excuses empowering nazis.
Who's empowering Nazis?
The Jihadists are because of the very real threat the world faces from Islam!
You'll see more ordinary people turning to the far right xenophobes looking for protection. Read my post above regarding the BNP who are now getting a lot of supporters from the ordinary working class population of Britain.
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Aye Pod Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:50:35am |
re: #439 Nannette
Going into hospital you have to write your religion, getting help from social services, you have to write your religion, signing up with a new GP you write your religion, the latest poll tax forms, you write your religion, lost your job and need benefits you have to state your religion.
No you don't. In some cases you will be asked, but you are not required to give one if you aren't comfortable with sharing that information.
I haven't been in hospital recently, but I know that state benefit forms do not require you to state your religion, and the poll tax was replaced by the council tax many years ago. Are you sure you're in Britain?
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mardukhai Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:50:44am |
You're right, Charles, no doubt about it.
(But I still love that masthead of hers. I wonder, though, are those puppies really hers?)
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Athos Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:50:44am |
re: #441 Nannette
438 Athos,
You're right. In this country, the Labour party were traditionally for the working class, and now they're far left, champagne socialist elites, who are no different to the Russian KGB politicians in power at the moment.
They've let down the people who voted for them and besides not keeping any promises they made when they got into power, and helping to make this country bankrupt, they're putting us in hock to the Saudis for the next couple of decades.
Ok - so, motivate and fight from the center - that is where most of the people reside. Elections do have consequences.
Embracing the fringe idiots will not solve that problem. Deciding not to try or to fight or embracing a lessor evil will not solve the problem. This is the time for the silent majority to organize and speak as one voice against the fringe elements of both sides of the spectrum.
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avanti Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:51:13am |
re: #440 Spiny Norman
True enough, and the trains ran on time under the Nazi's, but that did not make up for the rest. She may well think she is being helpful, working hard at it even, but the end result is what counts and like Pat Buckanan, I feel she hurts overall.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:52:04am |
re: #444 Nannette
Who's empowering Nazis?
The Jihadists are because of the very real threat the world faces from Islam!
You'll see more ordinary people turning to the far right xenophobes looking for protection. Read my post above regarding the BNP who are now getting a lot of supporters from the ordinary working class population of Britain.
We see that as a real problem. Are there no "libertarian" small-government conservative Parties that don't advocate reviving early 20th century "nationalist" populism (that led to 2 world wars)?
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Salamantis Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:52:42am |
re: #442 Nannette
440 Norman,
The Jihadist threat isn't going to wane, but will become much stronger, because of the conditions attached to us borrowing from the Saudis.
Bat Ye'ors book Eurabia is fast becoming reality and most people haven't even woken up to smell the coffee.
Just look at the demographics and how they've changed in the last 5 years!
Nazis are untrustworthy allies. They only act for their own perceived benefit.
Hitler signed a nonaggression pact with Stalin, and subsequently abrogated it and attacked the Soviet Union.
Their ideological heirs are not safe to share your foxhole with. Once they achieve positions of power, they would most likely bayonet you in the back and jump out of the foxhole to shake hands with the Islamofascists who share with them an enduring desire to cleanse the planet of the Jews. They might even convert to Islam, if they perceived benefits accruing from such a shift. Arafat's uncle, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, provided troops for Nazi Germany, and offered him all local Jews. I'm quite certain that Hitler's political children have not forgotten that kindness.
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Wm T Sherman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:54:17am |
Not a blog I read. Was she always like this, or did she become worse over time?
I remember seeing videos of herself that she posted about two years ago. In one of them she was singing to the camera while wearing an evening dress and holding a martini glass. Strange.
I concluded two things: that her blog is largely about her, and that I can't stand her ugly New York accent. Apologies to any NY people, but man, that accent.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 11:57:05am |
re: #444 Nannette
Fear mongering and claiming to be the only protection is how fascists operate.
I do not have to attend Israel rallies or live in europe to get an "on the ground assessment" to know that european ethnic nationalism is not the solution to islamization.
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Salamantis Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:01:28pm |
The answer to Islamofascist imperialism in Europe is most definitely NOT to embrace a European blood and soil ethnic and geographical supremacism which most assuredly does NOT include the Jews. The answer is to embrace constitutional democratic freedom and safety for all, and to both prevent all those who endeavor to transgress the freedom and safety of others from doing so, and to punish all those who inflict harm upon others in such attempts.
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Spiny Norman Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:08:54pm |
re: #441 Nannette
438 Athos,
You're right. In this country, the Labour party were traditionally for the working class, and now they're far left, champagne socialist elites, who are no different to the Russian KGB politicians in power at the moment.
They've let down the people who voted for them and besides not keeping any promises they made when they got into power, and helping to make this country bankrupt, they're putting us in hock to the Saudis for the next couple of decades.
What you say about the Labour Party perfectly describes the US Democratic Party, but unfortunately, our current crop of "me too" Republicans have been equally "helpful" in putting the US in hock to the Saudis (and the Chinese).
Where are the Tories on this? At least here, there is still a sizable contingent of Republicans who want to undo that damage. We threw out the Big Government "conservatives" once before and very likely, and very soon, we'll do it again.
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Summersong Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:09:56pm |
"Pamela Geller reveals that she wants me publicly flogged, and I’m fairly sure she’s serious".
Pamela, get back in your bed and sleep it off. Perhaps a higher cognitive function will develop at a later date...
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:12:23pm |
re: #429 avanti
I agree You'll never get the hard right and hard left together in any tent, heck not even the hard left with the left and hard right with the right. Having said that, it is possible to move the middle a bit. For example, someone on the right might support might a moderately pro choice candidate that's a fiscal consecutive, or someone of the left might support a otherwise qualified pro life person.
The problem is trying to win by going too far right or left to please your base. Obama managed to not piss off the far left while campaigning and picking up the center.
LGF for example pisses of some on the hard right with it's stand on evolution, but is otherwise a conservative blog as far as I can tell.
I see the political spectrum as a circle. The far left and far right can and do meet- see ron paul, for example. More often than not, the unifying theme tends to be Jew hatred.
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jimmyk Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:14:12pm |
I'm with Charles on this, though I hate to see all this fighting among the anti-jihadists. But Charles recognizes that just as Israel has to live up to a much higher standard than any other country in its fight against terror (and gets criticized anyway), we also have to steer clear of neo-nazis and wacky conspiracy theories, because the left will use this to discredit us (even though they show no hesitation about associating with wackos).
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:15:16pm |
re: #445 Jimmah
No you don't. In some cases you will be asked, but you are not required to give one if you aren't comfortable with sharing that information.
I haven't been in hospital recently, but I know that state benefit forms do not require you to state your religion, and the poll tax was replaced by the council tax many years ago. Are you sure you're in Britain?
I'm in NW London, which has recently been under attack by Islamofascist thugs, and on social services and hospital forms, you do have to put your religion, and because I've recently become disabled, been to hospital and have a social worker to help with my care needs, I know you have to put your religion on the forms.
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:18:33pm |
re: #447 Athos
...This is the time for the silent majority to organize and speak as one voice against the fringe elements of both sides of the spectrum.
Exactly, I'm with you 100% on that.
But the fear of the present jihad makes normally centre ground people vote for the exact opposite.
We have a left wing government and the reaction of quite a few will be to go far right. It's happened before and will happen again... we never learn our lessons in Europe and we see history repeating itself time and again.
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:19:59pm |
re: #440 Spiny Norman
More importantly, enough to negate much of what you say to defend her, she willingly associates with neo-Nazis and racist crypto-fascists who would revert to form and turn on the European Jews as soon as Jihadi threat wanes. She's as much a groupie as an activist.
Nailed it.
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Sharmuta Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:20:04pm |
re: #460 Nannette
Exactly, I'm with you 100% on that.
But the fear of the present jihad makes normally centre ground people vote for the exact opposite.
We have a left wing government and the reaction of quite a few will be to go far right. It's happened before and will happen again... we never learn our lessons in Europe and we see history repeating itself time and again.
So why are you supporting this by making excuses?
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:23:05pm |
re: #455 Spiny Norman
What you say about the Labour Party perfectly describes the US Democratic Party, but unfortunately, our current crop of "me too" Republicans have been equally "helpful" in putting the US in hock to the Saudis (and the Chinese).
Where are the Tories on this? At least here, there is still a sizable contingent of Republicans who want to undo that damage. We threw out the Big Government "conservatives" once before and very likely, and very soon, we'll do it again.
I would have loved to see Tom Lantos get somewhere...
But unfortunately, it's oil that motivates most politicians pockets and morals.
Which is why they all take a hars stand when it comes to Israel, and ignore places like Sudan, Somalia, and other places where the global jihad is underway... just look at Pakistan - the jihad against non-Muslims has been going on for ages, but no-one intervenes, because it would bring about criticism and that means oil prices go up, and the oil barons might lose a few billion!
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Haverwilde Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:23:07pm |
re: #457 Sharmuta
I see the political spectrum as a circle. The far left and far right can and do meet- see ron paul, for example. More often than not, the unifying theme tends to be Jew hatred.
That is the problem with the use of 'far left' and 'far right.' People associate National Socialists with far right, when they are nothing of the kind. They are a different breed of 'far left.'
Yes, one can be too fiscally conservative (far right), or too 'let the market's decide,' or have too much emphasis on personal liberties. But Lord, how would love to see some of those in power. Right now we have the left, the almost left, and the left behind.
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:25:13pm |
re: #457 Sharmuta
I see the political spectrum as a circle. The far left and far right can and do meet- see ron paul, for example. More often than not, the unifying theme tends to be Jew hatred.
See also, Lyndon Larouche
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Nannette Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:26:17pm |
re: #462 Sharmuta
So why are you supporting this by making excuses?
I'm not making excuses.
When Vlaams Belang came out supporting the Belgian Jews, I was happy, because some of my acquaintances were attacked over there a couple of weeks ago.
No-one else in Belgium spoke up for the Jews...
It's fine being supportive on messageboards, but people want help there and then, on their doorstep.
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:33:17pm |
re: #466 Nannette
I'm not making excuses.
When Vlaams Belang came out supporting the Belgian Jews, I was happy, because some of my acquaintances were attacked over there a couple of weeks ago.
No-one else in Belgium spoke up for the Jews...
It's fine being supportive on messageboards, but people want help there and then, on their doorstep.
This is the argument we hear as to why palestinians support Hamas. Hamas speaks up for "the little guy" and delivers social services, not to mention wielding a bit stick against "the occupation." It's exploitation and most especially exploitation of those who are weak or sick and unable to fend for themselves.
I'm truly sorry to hear of your disability, but you are a prime target of the people who seek to exploit your misfortune and sense of helplessness to co-opt your support for a cause you would hopefully reject (white supremacy) were it not dressed up this way. Please don't be misled.
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Athos Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:38:58pm |
re: #460 Nannette
We have a left wing government and the reaction of quite a few will be to go far right. It's happened before and will happen again... we never learn our lessons in Europe and we see history repeating itself time and again.
And from your own posts, even though you apparently know better, you seem to intend to repeat that history and are castigating those of us who refuse. You can either fight or surrender. Being apathetic, accepting the status quo, or embracing the fringe groups like BNP are all elements of surrender. The far right is not the answer - it's exchanging one extreme for another. You need to take up the mantle and start to reach out to the silent majority in the center to say that enough is enough. You also need to avoid to accept the seduction from the far right that they are the answer. They are not the answer - just as I believe you know deep down.
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keefe Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:43:09pm |
re: #32 RememberSekhmet?
And darn near retirement age if you voted for Goldwater.
Conservativism requires the links to the past be constantly forged. Once broken, it's astonishing how quickly events move.
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Athos Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:44:46pm |
re: #466 Nannette
VB, BNP, and other organizations of this ilk are not friends of Jews. Their associations with those who deny the Holocaust or demonstrate anti-semitism are a clear example of this.
Setting the appearance of being supportive of the Jews is nothing more than a tactic to deflect from their past positions and gain support against the 'greater' threat. Once they gain what they covet - they will return to their nature.
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:48:37pm |
Sorry, the "we need allies" argument is nonsense. You need allies like Le Pen and the BNP like a hole in the head, which of course they will give you at a later date.
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Aye Pod Sun, Jan 11, 2009 12:50:18pm |
re: #459 Nannette
I'm in NW London, which has recently been under attack by Islamofascist thugs, and on social services and hospital forms, you do have to put your religion, and because I've recently become disabled, been to hospital and have a social worker to help with my care needs, I know you have to put your religion on the forms.
Remember your initial claim? :
And on top of this, we HAVE to write our religion and race on EVERY form we sign...
Standard benefit claim form for Housing Benefit and council tax (what you referred to as 'poll tax')
[Link: www.stockport.gov.uk...]
As you can see, it doesn't ask your religion.
And here's one from a district in London :
[Link: www.walthamforest.gov.uk...]
click on » Apply using the Housing Benefit / Council Tax Benefit online claim form
Again, nowhere does it ask you to state your religion. Regardless of whether some forms ask you, the picture you painted of having to state your religion on every official form is demonstrably false.
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Aye Pod Sun, Jan 11, 2009 1:02:00pm |
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
The British far-right has its say on Gaza
Edmund Standing, January 11th 2009, 6:17 pm
"Starting our round-up of British far-right views on Gaza, we find that the guys over at Covert Undercover Nuisance Tactics are pretty apathetic:
Well where we stand is well back to enjoy the view because we couldn’t give a shit about either of them, so they can blow themselves all to Hell for what we care … Both are scum in our opinion and support for either side is for lefties and wimps.
After all, ‘its is none of our concern what the yids and [bigoted word]s do to each other and the only people who are concerned are the liberal left’.
Not so, apparently.
Nick Griffin, the Holocaust denying BNP leader, former exposer of Jewish media conspiracies and now born again opponent of anti-Semitism, has had his say.
‘The fighting in Gaza is not a proper concern for a British political party’, opines Griffin, before offering his view anyway. Presumably a lot has changed since his book ‘Who are the Mind Benders?’ which alleged ‘Zionist’ control of the media, including the BBC, for he now speaks of ‘the anti-Israeli bias of the leftist BBC’.
For Griffin, it is strategically important to support Israel because its destruction would embolden the Jihadist movement and ‘while we would oppose any move to entangle Britain in war on behalf of Israel, it is in our clear national interest that it should survive’. He expresses the hope that Britain can lose its dependency on oil from Arab nations, but concludes that ‘In the meantime, we will go back to ignoring Gaza and concentrate on the things that matter to our people’.
A commenter, ‘anglo48′, reads between the lines:
The question of whether Israel has a right to exist is largely beside the point. The bottom line is that Israel acts as a vital buffer against Islam in the Middle East, and any enemy of Islam is a friend of mine.
Griffin’s attempt to position himself as a reasonable political figure opposed to Jihadism and in favour of Israel’s existence is central to the attempt to present a modernised BNP which is simply ‘patriotic’ and against Islamist extremism.
Griffin is, of course, a well documented political chameleon and the BNP remains a party whose membership criteria include the requirement that you are a member of ‘the indigenous Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and Norse folk communities of Britain and those we regard as closely related and ethnically assimilated or assimilable aboriginal members of the European race also resident in Britain’. It is also a party that proclaims itself to be ‘wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples’.
..."
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hazzyday Sun, Jan 11, 2009 1:02:46pm |
re: #86 ArmyWife
The fact that PG thinks Charles caused a "lost year" single handily speaks volumes. She clearly understands that Charles and his views usurp the views of the crazy pack she is running with and as she has no rational way to respond, she is resorting to kindergarten temper tantrums. To which I say "You Go, Head Honco!"
Yes that "lost year" annotation of her doesn't put a good public light on her.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Jan 11, 2009 1:03:26pm |
re: #125 Charles
He apparently decided not to jump in the pool with the lizard army, and has instead sent me an 8-paragraph email, all in bold text, demanding an apology and failing to address a single factual point about the staged video.
Did you tell him to f**k off, Charles?
I (and most others) knew he was full of bovine excrement and would chicken out on a real debate...he knew we had his ass nailed to the wall on this.
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MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Jan 11, 2009 1:24:31pm |
re: #411 pokeefe
C'mon ....
Pamela is the quintissential JAP: she's got money, good looks, and a pedigree that stretches back to Abraham.
She's lives in New Jersey, for Christ's sake.
She could be sitting around repainting her toenails for the hundredth time while she thinks about boffing the kid who cleans the pool, but, instead of that, she is full bore every day promoting a multitude of conservative causes.
She GOES to conservative conferences; she GOES to public demonstrations.
She gives a shit, and puts her money, her body, and her reputation where her mouth is.
She may take a stupid position now and then - who hasn't - but she's on the right side of the fence, and we need all the help we can get.
If she wants to associate with known European crypto-/neo-Nazis and their sympathizers under the guise of fighting global Islamism, that's her choice (though a very poor one)...just don't expect me or anyone else here to join her.
No fascists in my foxhole!
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Tigger2005 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 1:38:14pm |
This damn Nazi-lover needs to quit calling her site "Atlas Shrugged." Ayn Rand would have had nothing to do with this insanity.
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LeePro Sun, Jan 11, 2009 1:40:30pm |
re: #410 Nannette
Dear Einstein:
I am so happy that you have found the "reply" and "quote" buttons (links) that, when used, allow the commenter to identify whom/what they are replying to... I was beginning to think that you actually liked confusing, disjointed conversion... and you've been here since 2004?
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Irish Rose Sun, Jan 11, 2009 2:01:00pm |
Posted by: km at December 15, 2008 10:06 AM on LGF2, who did a crosspost between LGF2 and Jihadwatch (Robert Spencers' site):
Most personally satisfying moment of the day:
Getting a hug from Pamella, having Robert sign my copy of Onward Muslim soldiers, and Standing on the balcony of the center with Pamella and Robert during lunch, decrying the damage LGF and CJ has done to the antijihad movement.I think the whole tone of the meeting would have had the LGF/CJ sycophants spitting nails.
So there they are.... Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and one of the most vile haters over at LGF2 standing on a dingy balcony in Jerusalem halfway around the world. Slandering Charles, discrediting his work and committing the most vile acts of character assassination for their own personal amusement and solely out of personal ambition. Three people who claim to be decent, respectable people of integrity.
/spit
You know, Charles... You don't have to put up this kind of slander, libel and defamation of character - and you shouldn't. These people are NOT immune from accountability, and they need to learn this the hard way.
Just sayin'.
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Irish Rose Sun, Jan 11, 2009 2:03:32pm |
re: #28 lionfromzion
I think Pamela is a major hottie. She can flog me anytime. Preferably in private though. :)
Pretty is, as pretty does.
And that one is ugly to the core.
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rightymouse Sun, Jan 11, 2009 2:13:45pm |
re: #408 Nannette
Bloodnok and Sharmuta,
We'll take any support coming our way right now. The incitement over here in London is diabolical, and with over 200 antisemitic attacks in the past week, we're not exactly the most relaxed group of people. We still have vivid memories of 1930's Europe - and it's happening again.
Then don't take help from people who could go 'Mosley' on you in a nanosecond once they gain any semblance of power.
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Lynn B. Sun, Jan 11, 2009 4:17:00pm |
re: #479 Irish Rose
So there they are.... Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and one of the most vile haters over at LGF2 standing on a dingy balcony in Jerusalem halfway around the world. Slandering Charles, discrediting his work and committing the most vile acts of character assassination for their own personal amusement and solely out of personal ambition. Three people who claim to be decent, respectable people of integrity.
/spit ...
Not to pick nits, but have you ever been to the Begin Center? I understand it's a beautiful building with an utterly awesome view (I can vouch for the view but haven't been in the building). Regardless of who happens to be in it.
... Just sayin'.
Ditto.
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jan 11, 2009 5:44:48pm |
Well, she's fired back with a gem of simplistic thinking, i.e. anyone who doesn't like Muslims is my friend. Its sad really, I found her site through LGF and was fan for a while, but as far as being a person whose opinions on complex issues I listen to and respect, she is not on the list. Go ahead and call me a half wit lemming Pamela, I know you are reading.
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Jan 11, 2009 5:51:31pm |
This comment (which she approved) is priceless..."charles johnson and his ilk have delayed the euro response to the onslaught of jihad for a couple years now". Well now. Europe cant get its act together and its all Charles's fault!
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Kenneth Sun, Jan 11, 2009 6:43:27pm |
Charles,
I don't know... maybe you should feel flattered, in a vaguely creepy way. Perhaps Pam has repressed (or not) dominatrix trenancies and her desire to see you flogged is a form of affection? It does explain her attraction to the jackbooted Eurotrash.
Blech!
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Jay777 Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:29:48pm |
I certainly have no idea if there is a lot of history behind this that has built up over a period of time, but I like LGF and Atlas Shrugged. I probably have not been paying enough attention as I'm not a daily reader of anything. I will certainly pay more attention now, not that I'm planning on jumping in on something like this, but just to inform myself of blog relations a bit better.
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guftafs Sun, Jan 11, 2009 9:37:02pm |
re: #411 pokeefe
C'mon ....
... and we need all the help we can get.
"Help"? Anyone needing that kind of help is lost. Looked at what she wrote and it's embarrassing trying to read it.
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pokeefe Mon, Jan 12, 2009 4:07:43am |
If you require ideological purity for membership in your club, you'll have a pretty small - and boring - club.
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Mr. Pizza Mon, Jan 12, 2009 6:04:36am |
Maybe she will collaborate in writing a new book with Pat Buchanan? Who knows why she has these outbursts. Don't take it so hard Charles, she's a one hit wonder and maybe with those dominatrix/fascist tendencies coming out now, who knows in this new information age what she will be writing or video taping herself doing next? Perhaps a leather clothing line. The floggings shall continue until morale improves!
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zulubaby Mon, Jan 12, 2009 6:09:15am |
I'm really shocked about this. I thought Pamela posted here and that you were friends! Bloody hell, I'm behind the times here ...
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zulubaby Mon, Jan 12, 2009 6:09:41am |
... obviously there's been some kind of fall out. Sorry to see it.
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S'latch Mon, Jan 12, 2009 6:24:40am |
Overall, Pamela Geller's blog is not too bad. It is disappointing that she is confused by European neofascist groups like Vlaams Belang. I do not believe that the their support for Israel is legitimate. I think it is merely a usefully contrary position that they assume in reaction to the anti-Jewish views of the liberals they oppose. When Ms. Geller figures this out, she will be better off.
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S'latch Mon, Jan 12, 2009 6:28:14am |
On the other hand, I have never witnessed a public flogging.
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Sharmuta Mon, Jan 12, 2009 7:06:06am |
re: #488 pokeefe
If you require ideological purity for membership in your club, you'll have a pretty small - and boring - club.
And what if your ideological purity also requires ethnic purity? Still want to sign up?
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Hhar Mon, Jan 12, 2009 7:18:49am |
Whenever I have been to "Atlas Shrugs" blog I am irresistably reminded of those tabloids in which a woman with large breasts is on page three (or wherever), and the headlines do nothing but promote the tabloid.
Hi ho. Not really worth it.
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Athos Mon, Jan 12, 2009 8:25:28am |
re: #491 zulubaby
Greetings ZB! It's been a long time.
Yeah, there was quite a falling out about 18 months ago. Pamela went off the deep end when Charles would not embrace the Euronazi parties and questioned why anyone would given their beliefs. She completely and unfairly attacked Charles and would not let up - When Friends Attack.
Since then, there have been these regular attacks whenever the issue of supporting the Euronazi parties comes up. Apparently, for many, there is the mistaken impression that these racist fringe parties are the last hope of Western Civilization in Europe.....which if true, shows that Europe is already lost in moral and intellectual bankruptcy.
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justdanny Mon, Jan 12, 2009 9:47:51am |
zulubaby
I'm so much farther behind the times than you are. I still have A.S. in my friends on my youtube page. I need to study this situation to see if I should remove her...?
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Vik Mon, Jan 12, 2009 9:58:49am |
The enemies of America would be delighted to see us tearing each other apart. There's going to be disagreements among people on the same side, but it's very important to stop short of name-calling. In my view "publicly flogged" is too much, and so is "shrieking lunatic." Disagreements should be conducted in a reasonable way or we will do damage to ourselves that we cannot afford.
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Athos Mon, Jan 12, 2009 10:20:45am |
re: #498 Vik
I disagree that our enemies are delighting with this kerfuffle - or that this is 'tearing each other apart'. In fact, the principled and moral stand to distance ourselves from the eurofascists and those who provide these fringe elements with the support, recognition, and oxygen should bring a pause to the islamofascists who will not hesitate to leverage the moral and intellectual failings that supporting these fringe groups brings upon one.
I firmly believe that the more vocal we are in our opposition for fascism in all forms, the more likely the silent majority and apathetic will slowly begin to wake to face the threats. If not, and they have already surrendered to the nanny state, then these fringe groups and their supporters will not be able to save them or Europe.
Pamela has made her choice - and she made her attacks since Oct 07 against Charles and LGF because many of us will not surrender our principles. To me, describing her as Charles does is not 'name calling' but an accurate rendition of her behavior and actions. That is a far cry from calling for a public flogging just because someone disagrees with you.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Jan 12, 2009 10:54:53am |
re: #498 Vik
In my view "publicly flogged" is too much, and so is "shrieking lunatic."
In my view, "shrieking lunatic" may be too kind to describe someone who, in complete seriousness, tried to push a story that Barack Obama was fathered by Malcolm X.
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guftafs Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:46:42am |
re: #500 Charles
In my view, "shrieking lunatic" may be too kind to describe someone who, in complete seriousness, tried to push a story that Barack Obama was fathered by Malcolm X.
I mean, even if this Twilight Zone idea were true. So what? The son of an intellectual endorsing racist violence somehow inherits this from the father? 50 clones of Adolf Hitler will all turn out the same and will want to become world dictators? Seems there's a reason Geller's comfort zone includes the racist nutters she's defending.
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Sharmuta Mon, Jan 12, 2009 4:27:45pm |
re: #497 justdanny
I'm so much farther behind the times than you are. I still have A.S. in my friends on my youtube page. I need to study this situation to see if I should remove her...?
Not to sound rude or anything, but this woman just posted a violent fantasy taking her anger out on Charles, and you need to think about it? Going off the deep-end is now her default mode. No offense, but it would be a no-brainer for me.
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ex-DU Jimbo Mon, Jan 12, 2009 7:14:06pm |
Wow....the infighting here is worse than on DU. You rightards are really
down.
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Sharmuta Mon, Jan 12, 2009 7:43:50pm |
re: #503 DU Jimbo
Are you surprised, disappointed or both that some on the right don't want anything to do with fascists and their sympathizers?
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zulubaby Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:38:51am |
re: #496 Athos
Hi to you too! Thanks for the background info. I read a bit of the linked thread -- it's a shame that it happened, but life goes on ...
Does Fjordman still post here?
Hi justdanny, hope you're well.
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zulubaby Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:40:36am |
What is ding? I kept seeing it on the other thread. I'm so out of the loop ... forgive.
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Athos Tue, Jan 13, 2009 3:59:49am |
re: #506 zulubaby
Does Fjordman still post here?
No. Fjordman was booted after letting his true colors shine through in terms of his racism and support for the fringe fascist parties. It all occurred about the same time - Oct / Nov 07 if I recall correctly. Here's just one link to a thread about it....
What is ding? I kept seeing it on the other thread. I'm so out of the loop ... forgive.
A 'ding' is either a plus vote or a negative vote on the post. Clicking on the boxes on the upper right of each post delivers the ding. An upding is a positive vote for a post and is reflected in an increase in positive karma for the poster. A down ding is the negative. When you check each user's info by clicking on their name / icon - you can see the 'karma' that person has earned since the rating system came into play.
Hope this helps. Great to see you back and I hope all is well with you.
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