Oh no, Joe!

Thank you Charles!

Careful, Joe!

They are putting Joe on the case of the CPR video. Says he's already looking into it.

Joe says "its an obvious fake"

Incomming!

...maybe he should have dug himself one of those 'defensive tunnels'?

These are the stories the MSM should be doing.

From my cancellation email to the Boston Globe:

One way to improve the reporting would be to include articles on how Israel has received years of rocket attacks, and how they have coped. Some reports on how the people of Sderot, inside pre-1967 Israel, have had to cope with years of rocket attacks, would go a long way to explaining Israel's reaction. The inhabitants of Sderot have not been able to have normal lives for years.

Video for subscribers only. Bummer.

This guy is so far superior to the MSM, their toes must be curling in their shoes something fierce!

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Video for subscribers only. Bummer.

Can somebody open for us?

As I said on the open thread, based on this video, Joe is going to be a sensation.

Shockingly real.

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Video for subscribers only. Bummer.

Subscription is free.
You may expect "Promotional e-mails", though.

The popularity and sincerity of J the P is KILLING the MSM. No matter how they sneer-this guy rocks.

Those rockets are just big, harmless, jovial firecrackers, everyone knows that.

/msm

re: #4 faraway

They are putting Joe on the case of the CPR video. Says he's already looking into it.

Joe says "its an obvious fake"

Heh.
Has someone told him that Mr Martin, according to his own e-mail to Charles, is doing a film or such about these Hamas missile attacks?

Would be a hoot if Joe lays into Mr Martin, on camera ...

Anyone else think that Joe the Plumber is a dead ringer for that guy on the TV show The Shield?

re: #16 Ringo the Gringo

Anyone else think that Joe the Plumber is a dead ringer for that guy on the TV show The Shield?

I thought that too. That was a great show.

re: #16 Ringo the Gringo

Anyone else think that Joe the Plumber is a dead ringer for that guy on the TV show The Shield?

He used to be "The Commish"

re: #16 Ringo the Gringo

Anyone else think that Joe the Plumber is a dead ringer for that guy on the TV show The Shield?

Ahhh.....you know all use big white bald guys look alike!

Having watched the video 3 times, I'm pleasantly surprised by the graphics shown at appropriate moments.

Video begins with the world, spinning, stopping on Israel. Nice perspective.
Joe starts out by saying he's in Sderot, and during the audio, the video zooms in on a satellite view of Israel, ending up at the geographic location. Boundaries are displayed in red.

Alternative would be Katie Couric with a deer-in-the-headlights look sitting behind a desk, big map behind her.

OT From drudge: 'Hamas salaries paid at Shifa Hospital'

Shifa Hospital is home base to Mads Gilbert and is also most likely where the faked video was shot.

Honest Joe, calls it like he sees it. forget plumbing. be a political commentator.

The real question isn't whether a plumber can do the news, it's wether Christiane Amanpour can fix a toilet.

Yes, Joe. I KNOW.

re: #16 Ringo the Gringo

Anyone else think that Joe the Plumber is a dead ringer for that guy on the TV show The Shield?

I can't see JtP whacking a Reuters Reporter upside the head with a 9mm.

Well, I can, but its not likely to happen.

re: #24 Ringo the Gringo

The real question isn't whether a plumber can do the news, it's wether Christiane Amanpour can fix a toilet.

LOL....upding worthy

re: #9 Kyle_st

This guy is so far superior to the MSM, their toes must be curling in their shoes something fierce!

They'll start attacking him soon. They'll call 'non-objective' and 'biased' and they'll refuse to report anything he digs up. This will not just be because he does not share their views, but because they are defending their jobs. They don't want to admit that their J-School degrees may not be worth as much as good instincts and an open mind.

Watched the Video, Joe has the basics of reporting down cold. His delivery will improve with time, and not much time at that. Wonder if reporting is his new career.

-S-

re: #22 Killgore Trout

OT From drudge: 'Hamas salaries paid at Shifa Hospital'

Shifa Hospital is home base to Mads Gilbert and is also most likely where the faked video was shot.

oof...

I was surprised. Joe actually wasn't that bad.

re: #25 MandyManners

*whack*

I wonder if Joe gave that family of the bombed home a bid on fixing their plumbing.

re: #28 big steve

LOL....upding worthy

I don't even know what it means, but it sounded good.

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

They'll start attacking him soon. They'll call 'non-objective' and 'biased' and they'll refuse to report anything he digs up. This will not just be because he does not share their views, but because they are defending their jobs. They don't want to admit that their J-School degrees may not be worth as much as good instincts and an open mind.

He is biased. He doesn't hide it as well as say, Katie Couric. Or Dan Rather. Or other professionals.
/?

re: #20 big steve

Ahhh.....you know all use big white bald guys look alike!

Both just Typical White People.

-BHO

"I'm not looking for the story. I'm looking for the truth."

He's gonna' be labeled a propagandist for Israel by the MFM.

While I was watching Joe, it gave me a jolt. I was wondering why it would seem strange to me that a person who was asking the questions I would ask or say the things you or might say.

re: #24 Ringo the Gringo

Well, her coverage reminds me of big, stinky turds-so she's very familiar with the subject.

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

They'll start attacking him soon. They'll call 'non-objective' and 'biased' and they'll refuse to report anything he digs up. This will not just be because he does not share their views, but because they are defending their jobs. They don't want to admit that their J-School degrees may not be worth as much as good instincts and an open mind.

Too right!
Because they're of course not biased, and he, of course, has no 'feelings' for the poor, persecuted hamasholes, like they have in spades!

re: #38 MandyManners

"I'm not looking for the story. I'm looking for the truth."

He's gonna' be labeled a propagandist for Israel by the MFM.

I hope so....sure will elevate his cred inna hurry

re: #18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He used to be "The Commish"

He looks better with his head shaved.

re: #19 buzzsawmonkey

Missing "r" in Wurzelbacher #2 above, Charles.

PJ Media economizes on consonants, and passes the savings on to you.

re: #33 MandyManners

*whack*

Careful with whacking yourself, Mandy. You'll go blind. :)

re: #38 MandyManners

I'm sure he'd be happier to be known that way than a shill for terrorists like the rest of the MSM.

J-school turns out automatons.

re: #37 Dark_Falcon

Both just Typical White People.

-BHO

Somebody posted the other night about having to change their drivers license because of gray hair.
(I hope I remembered to upding the comment)

/signed, the other half of "typical white people"

Ed Morressy on Joe the Plumber.....
Joe the Plumber becomes Joe the Media

....Joe seems ready to make the same mistake that the MSM does, which is picking sides rather than reporting. He’s made it clear that his mission is to tell the Israeli side, which is unfortunately badly needed at this stage. At least he’s honest about that, but it doesn’t make him that much better than his mainstream media peers. If they announced that they felt a duty to report the Palestinian side of the conflict because they genuinely believe that Israel is the aggressor, would that make their reporting any more objective or truthful? Not really.

What this conflict needs is disinterested, dispassionate reporting, a historical record that doesn’t rely on terrorist propagandists nor on “patriotic” reports from the front. Joe the Plumber may make a fine columnist or opinion journalist — we’ll see when he begins filing regular reports — but his entirely legitimate criticism of the mainstream global media will apply to himself as well if he declares that he will deliver “patriotic” reports on behalf of Israel.

Joe has the most important trait of a good reporter. He doesn't want to be the story.

Reuters is gonna' go after him.

GO JOE!

re: #43 Ringo the Gringo

He was really chunky as the Commish...he looks waaaaaaaay better now.

re: #34 snopercod

I wonder if Joe gave that family of the bombed home a bid on fixing their plumbing.

You haven't met unions until you have been to Israel. Joe better not touch a plunger.

re: #50 Mich-again

Joe has the most important trait of a good reporter. He doesn't want to be the story.

excellent...

re: #35 Ringo the Gringo

I don't even know what it means, but it sounded good.

Laughing Out Loud.....

re: #24 Ringo the Gringo

The real question isn't whether a plumber can do the news, it's wether Christiane Amanpour can fix a toilet.

Well we can be certain of one thing - Amanpour knows how to fix the news.

re: #38 MandyManners

"I'm not looking for the story. I'm looking for the truth."

He's gonna' be labeled a propagandist for Israel by the MFM.

Yep, that's my hunch. Still, high quality reporting with support from people like us might save him. And if he can survive in his new profession, he might help lead the way to a reform of the media.

Joe needs to work on the "you knows". Otherwise, folks might confuse him with Caroline Kennedy.

He's actually not bad, but he really needs to work on the obama-like hemms and haws. On the other hand, look where that got obama.

If more journalists were like Joe, I might actually be able to watch the news again without feeling ill.

re: #36 jwb7605

He is biased. He doesn't hide it as well as say, Katie Couric. Or Dan Rather. Or other professionals.
/?

They are attacking him. Saw it last night and them making fun of him trying to think of questions.

re: #49 Killgore Trout

Gawd.
What does he think the 'reporting' is we've had from the MFM?
Are they not 'opinion pieces' for Hamas, clad in 'we're not biased'-journalese?

re: #24 Ringo the Gringo

The real question isn't whether a plumber can do the news, it's wether Christiane Amanpour can fix a toilet.

With the sheer volume of crap that comes out of her I'm sure she has plugged a few.

re: #51 MandyManners

Reuters is gonna' go after him.

GO JOE!

Good luck to Reuters - I'm sure the blogosphere will provide Joe with sufficient ammunition to take them on.

re: #61 Hard Right

They are attacking him. Saw it last night and them making fun of him trying to think of questions.

Refreshing to watch a real on-the-cuff interview!
I haven't seen that since Walter Cronkite faked it well.

easiest sign up ever! Put in email addy twice, password twice, and video shows up! No link back in your email to click on....

I like his unpolished style and the fact that he is passionate about reporting facts that are left behind by the MSM because they aren't helpful to the message.

re: #20 big steve

Ahhh.....you know all use big white bald guys look alike!

Now that you mention it, if you dress him in white and give him an ear-ring, he could pass for Mr. Clean

re: #47 newsjunkie_ky

J-school turns out automatons.

This is why it's refreshing to see Joe the Plumber. He's gonna call it like he sees it without the filters installed by years of J-school indoctrination.

re: #63 bulwrk

With the sheer volume of crap that comes out of her I'm sure she has plugged a few.

I up dinged you on that one since there are so many ways to comment on that, and at least half have the ability to get me banned!

This is A GUTSY, brave American. GO JOE!

re: #24 Ringo the Gringo

The real question isn't whether a plumber can do the news, it's wether Christiane Amanpour can fix a toilet.

And does she have a license?

Doing the work the MSM won't. Thank you Joe!

Unbiased media is a myth.

Good comment that the homemade Pali missiles look like something an 8 year kid would draw up. And I did not know that the Palis are destroying their own infrastructure to get the 2' and 4' galvanized pipe they need for the missiles.

Geniuses. Dismantle the municipal water supply system to make weapons.

I think that is Noam Bedein with him.

Honestly, how stupid that I have to sign in to use Pajamas TV.

Guess what, it ain't gonna happen.

Was the rocket fired by Hamas or CNN?

Prayers for Joe's safety while he does the work the MSM seems to be incapable of even comprehending, much less doing.

but but but - Hamas Nazi rockets are filled with Marxist love.

This is Britain.

re: #39 faraway

While I was watching Joe, it gave me a jolt. I was wondering why it would seem strange to me that a person who was asking the questions I would ask or say the things you or might say.

You and me both. Do you, as I do, spend half an interview yelling at the screen things like "Ask him about (fill in the blank), you moron!" or "Did you hear what that idiot just said? Follow up dammit!"?

re: #22 Killgore Trout

OT From drudge: 'Hamas salaries paid at Shifa Hospital'

Shifa Hospital is home base to Mads Gilbert and is also most likely where the faked video was shot.

As I noted in the DT, Gilbert was in Gaza for all of a week - he's now back in Oslo spewing his nonsensical agitprop for anyone who is in earshot. He was at Shifa hospital, fully staffed by Hamas thugs on the payroll, mugging for the cameras and doing bad propaganda videos.

I'm sorry, but if the situation is as bad as he claims, how did he have time to mug for the cameras? I know interns in residency pull longer shifts than that which Gilbert did, and then they're still going at it. Evil.

Joe must be destroyed! He is proving that the MSM types are not really that talented.
Soon they will float the rumor that Trig Palin is the love child of Joe & Sarah.
sarc.

18:49 Saudi Arabia accuses Israel of `racist extermination` in Gaza (Reuters)

And This from a country that doesn't allow JEWS in?

Bernie needs 3 hots and a cot, or he will never get it.

re: #71 WriterMom

This is A GUTSY, brave an American. GO JOE!

I hope the average American would do the same thing, given the opportunity.
Most of the WWII vets I know described into the "scared, then enraged" part.
Those people are ordinary, darn fine Americans.

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

They'll start attacking him soon. They'll call 'non-objective' and 'biased' and they'll refuse to report anything he digs up.

Ed at HotAir is trying to say Joe should be objective when reporting on Hamas.

Hamas is a terrorist organization. They dont rate any objectivity. What is he thinking?

re: #77 Pastorius

It was no big deal really. Geesh. Took me 10 seconds.

Paliwood watch (WARNING GRAPHIC)......
RAW : baby got burned to death in Ghaza (- Graphic -)

He even walks down the hallways backwards so the camera can stay on the burned baby, then makes an impassioned speech. This is a tough one to watch.

re: #87 faraway

Ed at HotAir is trying to say Joe should be objective when reporting on Hamas.

Hamas is a terrorist organization. They dont rate any objectivity. What is he thinking?

Ah, but saying Hamas is a terrorist organization is being objective.

:-)

Who better?

As a plumber he can recognize the peculiar stench emanating from the shit hole next door.

re: #82 lawhawk

Thanks for the update.

re: #83 opnion

Joe must be destroyed! He is proving that the MSM types are not really that talented.
Soon they will float the rumor that Trig Palin is the love child of Joe & Sarah.
sarc.

Reminds me of this exchange from Seinfeld

JERRY: (Bravely) Well, what if I deliver it?

NEWMAN: You?! (Laughs hysterically) You can't deliver mail!

JERRY: Well, why not?

NEWMAN: (Thinks for a moment) I guess you're right. It's just walking around putting it into boxes..

re: #77 Pastorius

What's the big deal? You can use any e-mail address.

re: #49 Killgore Trout

Ed Morressy on Joe the Plumber.....
Joe the Plumber becomes Joe the Media

Instead of "Joe the Media," maybe "GI Joe" would be a cooler nick?

Was at a wedding this weekend.

Israel is united.

Even my leftist Israeli acquaintances are outraged by the MSM.

re: #75 Mich-again

Good comment that the homemade Pali missiles look like something an 8 year kid would draw up. And I did not know that the Palis are destroying their own infrastructure to get the 2' and 4' galvanized pipe they need for the missiles.

Geniuses. Dismantle the municipal water supply system to make weapons.

Because they can always blame the Jooos.

If nothing else, Joe will an attention grabber for PJTV. I heard them mentioned on my local country music channel yesterday. The radio host made a joke about hoping they don't report in their pajamas. It was lame humor. But, hey PJTV got some publicity.

Gilbert compares Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto. Nice. Classy. Just ignore the thousands of rockets fired by Hamas at Israel necessitating Israel's response to defend itself from genocidal terrorists. Gilbert has repeatedly sided with evil (supported the 9/11 attackers), so going and throwing support to Hamas is a step down.

re: #96 Ben Hur

Was at a wedding this weekend.

Israel is united.

Even my leftist Israeli acquaintances are outraged by the MSM.

That is good to hear.

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Here's some black irony: In the midst of Hamas fighters committing war crimes by embedding themselves among the part of a civilian population most at risk, a UNRWA spokesman questions someone else's credibility:

The Shin Bet told ministers last week that Hamas leaders were hiding in a basement bunker built by Israel under the Shifa Hospital complex in Gaza City. The basement at the hospital was refurbished during Israel's occupation of the Gaza Strip, Haaretz reported on Monday. The United Nations insists that it keeps Hamas members out of the schools, clinics and other institutions it runs in Gaza.

In response to Dichter's comments, a UNRWA spokesman in Israel said on Monday that the UN was getting mixed messages from the Israeli establishment, and that with each "flip flop" the credibility of each Israeli assertion is "diminished incrementally."

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

re: #69 ratherdashing

This is why it's refreshing to see Joe the Plumber. He's gonna call it like he sees it without the filters installed by years of J-school indoctrination.

Not just that. It's also a bit of NOCD (Not Our Class Dear). Some in the MSM look down on Joe as a working class "bitter clinger" (to use Obama's phrasing again). They want to believe that a journalist cannot be made out of a blue-collar worker. This attitude is what rational people call "Being an asshole".

This is awesome. I am really impressed.

re: #96 Ben Hur

Was at a wedding this weekend.

Israel is united.

Even my leftist Israeli acquaintances are outraged by the MSM.

But they don't get the connection between the leftist Media and the leftist Candidates/Politicians?

re: #99 lawhawk

He can bite me.

Just checking back in . I hope Joe and his reporting really scares the hell at of the "professional" journalists with his reporting. I know it wont happen,they'll try to destroy him again.
But give 'em hell anyway Joe.

What happened to the Gazacam?

Why the heck do I have to register to see the video?

re: #106 WriterMom

He can bite me.

Why did you already get your rabies shots?

re: #87 faraway

Ed at HotAir is trying to say Joe should be objective when reporting on Hamas.

Hamas is a terrorist organization. They dont rate any objectivity. What is he thinking?

Nobody watching TV today recognizes the name Ernie Pyle.
Objective reporting in a war zone requires bias.

The public needs to know where the reporter is coming from. Today's public cannot see the elephant in the room when viewing a report from somebody embedded with Hamas.

Anybody know of a Michael Yon or Michael Totten report from an embedded with the Taliban perspective?

re: #82 lawhawk

As I noted in the DT, Gilbert was in Gaza for all of a week - he's now back in Oslo spewing his nonsensical agitprop for anyone who is in earshot. He was at Shifa hospital, fully staffed by Hamas thugs on the payroll, mugging for the cameras and doing bad propaganda videos.

I'm sorry, but if the situation is as bad as he claims, how did he have time to mug for the cameras? I know interns in residency pull longer shifts than that which Gilbert did, and then they're still going at it. Evil.

and while the MAD doctor was in that hospital,he turned a blind eye to Hamas thugs EXECUTING patients.

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

"At Shifa Hospital in Gaza, the director, Dr. Hussein Ashour, said that keeping his patients alive from their wounds was an enormous challenge. He said there were some 1,500 wounded people distributed among Gaza’s nine hospitals with far too few intensive care units, equipped ambulances and other vital equipment.

On Monday, Dr. Ashour was not the only official in charge. Armed Hamas militants in civilian clothes roamed the halls. Asked their function, they said it was to provide security. But there was internal bloodletting under way.

In the fourth-floor orthopedic section, a woman in her late 20s asked a militant to let her see Saleh Hajoj, her 32-year-old husband. She was turned away and left the hospital. Fifteen minutes later, Mr. Hajoj was carried out by young men pretending to transfer him to another ward. As he lay on the stretcher, he was shot in the left side of the head.

Mr. Hajoj, like five others killed at the hospital this way in 24 hours, was accused of collaboration with Israel."

re: #101 jaunte

Heh

Just another reason to fight the so called "fairness doctrine". This was one of the most honest reports that I've ever seen come out of the mideast. Joe is my hero.

re: #80 Ben Hur

As scary as pictures of the Blitz form 1940. I know of nothing else to say except that my heart is sore afraid.

re: #62 yma o hyd

Gawd.
What does he think the 'reporting' is we've had from the MFM?
Are they not 'opinion pieces' for Hamas, clad in 'we're not biased'-journalese?

I have to agree with the Hotair article. We need reporters that dig out the facts and reports on them.

The other story that is not being told is that not all Palestinians support Hamas. The MSM frames this as Israel versus all Palestinians, giving Hamas a free pass for tee-totally f-ing up the chance they had at actually governing.

re: #102 Dark_Falcon

Not just that. It's also a bit of NOCD (Not Our Class Dear). Some in the MSM look down on Joe as a working class "bitter clinger" (to use Obama's phrasing again). They want to believe that a journalist cannot be made out of a blue-collar worker. This attitude is what rational people call "Being an asshole".

Who was the old Chicago Tribune reporter (now retired or dead) that said that was what the problem was with journalism today. Bald guy. Blue collar. He said not enough reporters hung out at the corner tavern after work and had contact with real people.

... thinking.. thinking...

Register = watch the video
Don't register = you don't get to watch

Really, is it that fucking hard?

re: #8 Killgore Trout

Video for subscribers only. Bummer.

Sign up with a throwaway email.

re: #96 Ben Hur

Was at a wedding this weekend.
Israel is united.
Even my leftist Israeli acquaintances are outraged by the MSM.

Don't worry, it's only temporary.
/

Does anyone else hate Roger Simon's hat?

re: #24 Ringo the Gringo

The real question isn't whether a plumber can do the news, it's wether Christiane Amanpour can fix clog a toilet.

/I think we all know the answer to that one...

re: #122 WriterMom

Does anyone else hate Roger Simon's hat?

Yes

Al-Aqsa TV Airs Hamas Psychological Warfare.

Aired on Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas/Gaza) - January 11, 2009 - 00:01:33 Hamas Psychological Warfare: Al-Aqsa TV Calls on Israelis "to Return to Where You Came From" and Promises a "Big Present on Election Night".

re: #49 Killgore Trout

"What this conflict needs is disinterested, dispassionate reporting..."

I thought that was the problem. Disinterested and dispassionate means there is no difference between the sides, the "reporter" is just a Global Citizen, everything must be fair meaning every motive for every action by every entity must be portrayed as equal and morally and ethically equivalent.

Screw disinterested and dispassionate. Go JOE! God forbid he ever attempts to "be liked" by the elites in academia and media. That would be his assimilation into the Borg hive-mind.

re: #103 buzzsawmonkey

Yes-I noticed that too. As if he actually cares. Imagine that!

re: #120 Alouette

Sign up with a throwaway email.

I subscribe to the PajamasMedia RSS feed. One e-mail per day, 50% of the time, I'm glad I got it. The other 50% of the time, "send to trash" is just a click away.

Lose the T-shirt, Joe.

re: #124 faraway

LOL. Glad to know I'm not the only one shallow enough to have made that observation.

re: #80 Ben Hur

This is Britain.

That girl in the orange vest trying to prevent violence clearly does not understand who she is talking to. She needs to wise up and join the pro-Israel side or she's going to wind up in a burqa.

re: #99 lawhawk

Gilbert compares Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto. Nice. Classy. Just ignore the thousands of rockets fired by Hamas at Israel necessitating Israel's response to defend itself from genocidal terrorists. Gilbert has repeatedly sided with evil (supported the 9/11 attackers), so going and throwing support to Hamas is a step down.

As a doctor, he surely ought to be aware of the fact that in the Warsaw Ghetto (as in the KZs generally) women stopped menstruating because of the lack of food, and thus did not conceive.

How is it then that the birth rate in Gaza is so high?

But hey, he don't need facts, scientific or otherwise, he's a propagandist pure and simple.

re: #118 ratherdashing

Mike Royko!

We need more like him
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #99 lawhawk

Gilbert compares Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto. Nice. Classy. Just ignore the thousands of rockets fired by Hamas at Israel necessitating Israel's response to defend itself from genocidal terrorists. Gilbert has repeatedly sided with evil (supported the 9/11 attackers), so going and throwing support to Hamas is a step down.

The Warsaw Ghetto? Don't get me started. Mads Gilbert is a lying piece of shit.

re: #89 Killgore Trout

NMP.

Madoff bail is NOT revoked.

re: #118 ratherdashing

Who was the old Chicago Tribune reporter (now retired or dead) that said that was what the problem was with journalism today. Bald guy. Blue collar. He said not enough reporters hung out at the corner tavern after work and had contact with real people.

... thinking.. thinking...

They have contact with the only people that matter to them, Upper West Side and Hollywood liberal elitists. Everyone else is irrelevant.

Watch out, Mads Gilbert. Joe's on the trail after you!

re: #122 WriterMom

Does anyone else hate Roger Simon's hat?

It's a bit hack-y. He might as well have a card saying "PRESS" sticking out of the hatband.

re: #136 Nevergiveup

Madoff bail is NOT revoked.

Steal a little - go to jail.

Steal a lot - go to your pentohouse

re: #80 Ben Hur

Holy shit.

Call out the SAS.

Weapons free.

re: #118 ratherdashing

Who was the old Chicago Tribune reporter (now retired or dead) that said that was what the problem was with journalism today. Bald guy. Blue collar. He said not enough reporters hung out at the corner tavern after work and had contact with real people.

... thinking.. thinking...

Mike Royko?

re: #120 Alouette

Sign up with a throwaway email.

Yes, this works. I usually use an address that was, at one time, registered to me, but has been dormant for so long that Yahoo won't let me access it. PJ never gives me a problem.

re: #139 bloodnok

It's a bit hack-y. He might as well have a card saying "PRESS" sticking out of the hatband.

I always thought it was an oblique reference (deference?) to Matt Drudge.

re: #99 lawhawk

Gilbert compares Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto. Nice. Classy. Just ignore the thousands of rockets fired by Hamas at Israel necessitating Israel's response to defend itself from genocidal terrorists. Gilbert has repeatedly sided with evil (supported the 9/11 attackers), so going and throwing support to Hamas is a step down.

Vicious Babushka also compares Gaza to the Warsaw Ghetto. (Not in the same way as Maddog Gilbert)

I wonder what Joe the Plumber will do if someone in government "leaks"?

re: #118 ratherdashing

Who was the old Chicago Tribune reporter (now retired or dead) that said that was what the problem was with journalism today. Bald guy. Blue collar. He said not enough reporters hung out at the corner tavern after work and had contact with real people.

... thinking.. thinking...

His name was Mike Royko. I always loved his columns; gutsy and honest, even when he drew the wrong conclusions. He was a great writer and the Tribune is poorer without him.

re: #137 Leonidas Hoplite

more on Mike Royko.

Mike Royko grew up in Chicago, living in an apartment above a bar. His mother was Polish and his father Ukrainian.[1] He briefly attended Wright Junior College and then enlisted in the U. S. Air Force in 1952.[2]

On becoming a columnist, he drew experiences from his childhood, becoming the voice of the Everyman Chicago. Although caustically sarcastic, he never condescended to his readers, he always remembered he was one of them.

Royko began his newsman's career as a columnist for the Naval Air Station Glenview newspaper and the City News Bureau of Chicago before working at the Chicago Daily News as a political reporter, becoming an irritant to the City's Democratic Machine politicians with penetrating and skeptical questions and reports.

I can't think of a single columnist like him today.

re: #146 subsailor68

I wonder what Joe the Plumber will do if someone in government "leaks"?

Of Robert's Byrd's health I know not.

re: #22 Killgore Trout

OT From drudge: 'Hamas salaries paid at Shifa Hospital'

Shifa Hospital is home base to Mads Gilbert and is also most likely where the faked video was shot.

* * *
The article said it was an OPEN SECRET Hamas thugs wear doctor's robes in the hospital.

This WAR CRIME is happening on & under the UN's watch. The UN is once again aiding & abetting--and FINANCING-- murderers in hospitals.

re: #122 WriterMom

Does anyone else hate Roger Simon's hat?

Who does he think he is, Matt Drudge?

Typical MSM reaction: This week, the San Francisco Bay Guardian (the Left Coast's equivalent of the Village Voice) has their "Offies" -- a lame, moonbat-flavored ripoff of Esquire's annual Dubious Achievement Awards. Featured on the Tom Tomorrow-scrawled cover, alongside Great Satans GWB and Sarah Palin, is J the P. All three are receiving the shoe-tossing treatment, which seems to have become the Left's equivalent of simian feces-flinging, albeit not as excusable or humorous.

re: #149 bloodnok

Of Robert's Byrd's health I know not.

LOL! When it comes to old Bobby B, Joe should employ his vast experience with duct tape.

re: #80 Ben Hur

Note Little Miss Moonbat who tries to convince the Islamothugs that "we don't need to use violence". Of course, they blow her off. Shape of things to come. If the Islamothugs take over, moonbats, once they get done with the Jews... you're next.

re: #134 Walter L. Newton

Mads Gilbert is a lying piece of shit.

He is just pimping the Palis to promote antisemitism.

re: #151 Alouette

Who does he think he is, Matt Drudge?

Who does Matt Drudge think he is, Walter Winchell?

Well Joe the Plumber in Israel made the front page of Kos....there is collective testicle retraction going on among the comments......

re: #156 Walter L. Newton

Who does Matt Drudge think he is, Walter Winchell?

Yes.

re: #156 Walter L. Newton

Who does Matt Drudge think he is, Walter Winchell?

upding, you geezer!

re: #142 Taqiyyotomist

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

yes. I loved his columns. In his final days he explained the change in journalism that led to the prestigious J-school types running the show. He was down to earth and could relate with everyday people and readers.

re: #150 alegrias

* * *
The article said it was an OPEN SECRET Hamas thugs wear doctor's robes in the hospital.

This WAR CRIME is happening on & under the UN's watch. The UN is once again aiding & abetting--and FINANCING-- murderers in hospitals.

yup and NOBODY does a thing about it....I hope the Israelis find some documentation etc

re: #157 Big Steve

Well Joe the Plumber in Israel made the front page of Kos....there is collective testicle retraction going on among the comments......

Don't want to give them any hits...but I'm guessin' it ain't real positive?

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

That girl in the orange vest trying to prevent violence clearly does not understand who she is talking to. She needs to wise up and join the pro-Israel side or she's going to wind up in a burqa.

Idiot leftist who doesn't realize that she is being used more than she is using them.

Note to leftist chick: They will not convert to atheism after they help you burn it all down.

re: #125 Killgore Trout

"Al-Aqsa TV Calls on Israelis "to Return to Where You Came From"

Sweet! Does that mean Al-Aqsa TV finally wants Israel to raze that ugly-ass dome that squats, as if taking a giant steaming dump, right where the beautuful Jewish temple was prior to being stolen by the Insane Thugs of Mohammad, who went there on a Dream Horse?

re: #146 subsailor68

I wonder what Joe the Plumber will do if someone in government "leaks"?

Tighten their nuts?

re: #116 Walter L. Newton

I have to agree with the Hotair article. We need reporters that dig out the facts and reports on them.

Yes, thats what reporting ought to be about - digging out the facts.
But that is precisely what none of them do.
They take the word of any hamashole as unvarnished truth while looking for the slightest fault in the IDF reportings.

I've been enraged again today reading about the story on 'white Phosphorus' - its in the ONT below.

Why do none of the reporters ask the simple question what someone is doing, sitting outside their house, when tehre is an IAF attack on?

Same with the CNN story we've been debating over the weekend - thats the questions proper reporters ought to ask - but do they?

Do they heck!

re: #162 subsailor68

Don't want to give them any hits...but I'm guessin' it ain't real positive?

Its mostly the normal elitist stuff

re: #165 MandyManners

Tighten their nuts?

Oh Mandy, from your lips to God's ear!

:-)

re: #161 albusteve

yup and NOBODY does a thing about it....I hope the Israelis find some documentation etc

Well what if they drag out some dead Hamas operatives in Doctors scrubs and put them on display like the MSM loves Hamas to do with their kids?

re: #165 MandyManners

Tighten their nuts?

Excellent!

re: #158 CIA Reject

Yes.

Actually, he certainly tries to mimic Winchell, both in dress and vocal style, and the gossip nature of his reporting. I thought this was a known factor? It was the first thing I noticed about Drudge the first time I ever saw a PR picture of him, and that was what, over 10 years ago?

"Oh. Reuters."

So matter of fact. Perfect.

re: #142 Taqiyyotomist

Mike Royko?

Yep.

Mad Magazines First 100 minutes of the Obama Presidency.
HT Theo Spark.
[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com...]

re: #157 Big Steve

Well Joe the Plumber in Israel made the front page of Kos....there is collective testicle retraction going on among the comments......

Their eyes are also getting glassy ... soon ... soon ...

re: #165 MandyManners

Tighten their nuts?

I hear steroids will do that also?

But Royko didn't go to a famous Journalism School. So he's not a journalist, and shouldn't be taken seriously.
////////////spit

That was pretty good.

re: #164 Taqiyyotomist

Sweet! Does that mean Al-Aqsa TV finally wants Israel to raze that ugly-ass dome that squats, as if taking a giant steaming dump, right where the beautuful Jewish temple was prior to being stolen by the Insane Thugs of Mohammad, who went there on a Dream Horse Magic Pony?

Editorial license...couldn't help myself

re: #167 Big Steve

Its mostly the normal elitist stuff

Oh. I never really thought of Kos and elite in the same sentence. Now, "bottom feeding, scum-sucking, whale turds" - that's another matter entirely.

:-)

re: #138 MandyManners

Watch out, Mads Gilbert. Joe's on the trail after you!

Its Mr Martin who should be much more concerned right now!

OT

"Disgraced financier Bernard Madoff will remain under house arrest after a federal judge in New York ruled not to revoke his bail."

CNN

They are being so mean to him.
/

It may not be the worst thing in the World if an articulate person with correct thinking rises by acclaim to politics and leadership.

Certainly better then the professional political class who have no real values except their own self promotion.

Did journalism exist before journalism schools? I have a sneaking suspicion that Benjamin Franklin didn't attend. Or Alexander Hamilton.

re: #122 WriterMom

Does anyone else hate Roger Simon's hat?

Roger and Joe show the generational divide when it comes to being bald. Older men were conditioned to hide it with a hat, a combover, or a toupee. Nowadays, its like, the heck with it, cut the rest of it off too. Who cares what anyone thinks.

I'm watching "The Shawshank Redemption". Who wants to bet that Warden Sam Norton is a Chicago Democrat?

re: #169 Nevergiveup

Well what if they drag out some dead Hamas operatives in Doctors scrubs and put them on display like the MSM loves Hamas to do with their kids?

it's just about the biggest story of this conflict...imo

re: #174 lifeofthemind

Mad Magazines First 100 minutes of the Obama Presidency.
HT Theo Spark.
[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com...]

That was great.....I really liked #26

re: #174 lifeofthemind

Mad Magazines First 100 minutes of the Obama Presidency.
HT Theo Spark.
[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com...]

You're killing me. This is very funny.

re: #181 yma o hyd

Its Mr Martin who should be much more concerned right now!

Oh, him, too.

I have never seen all their damage caused by Hamas to Israeli homes on any news program?

Isn't that remarkable?

Not to go OT on you all but I saw 'Gran Torino' this weekend. It was completely awesome!

re: #192 Big Steve

Not to go OT on you all but I saw 'Gran Torino' this weekend. It was completely awesome!

Good to hear

GM is too big to fail!
Bernie Madoff is "too big" to go to jail!

re: #192 Big Steve

Not to go OT on you all but I saw 'Gran Torino' this weekend. It was completely awesome!

I liked it. Beats anything else out there right now that I've seen.

re: #53 lifeofthemind

You haven't met unions until you have been to Israel. Joe better not touch a plunger.

I didn't know that. Thanks.

re: #154 Occasional Reader

Note Little Miss Moonbat who tries to convince the Islamothugs that "we don't need to use violence". Of course, they blow her off. Shape of things to come. If the Islamothugs take over, moonbats, once they get done with the Jews... you're next.

And that is something which is so totally below their horizon, they cannot even think that far.
They have so utterly succumbed to the arab propaganda - if they're told wearing a burqa is a political statement to 'free palestine', they'd do it straightaway!

re: #69 ratherdashing

This is why it's refreshing to see Joe the Plumber. He's gonna call it like he sees it without the filters installed by years of J-school indoctrination.

I'm a big believer in gifted amateurs. Having an Education Degree certainly isn't a formula for being an effective teacher - just look at the dismal state of education today. No offense to teachers but the Education bureaucracy that is responsible for our Education System certainly has made a botch of things.
I would think that the same applies to journalism.

re: #192 Big Steve

Not to go OT on you all but I saw 'Gran Torino' this weekend. It was completely awesome!

Really? It didn't look very promising in the trailer. (Then again, trailers seem designed to make movies look worse than they are.)

Wow, I was surprised to see all the damage those rockets did to that house.

I was think it would make a nice round hole on the roof.

re: #200 formercorpsman

Wow, I was surprised to see all the damage those rockets did to that house.

I was think it would make a nice round hole on the roof.

Hey, do you think it was staged?
/

re: #199 Occasional Reader

Really? It didn't look very promising in the trailer. (Then again, trailers seem designed to make movies look worse than they are.)

The trailers try to make it out as a geezer 'Dirty Harry' which it isn't. It is far more. I don't go out to movies often and it was a long movie and I barely blinked through out the whole thing.

re: #195 J.D.

Defiance which is due out Jan 16th looks like it could be good

re: #201 faraway

Oh yeah, the stinians don't have weapons.

They can only throw rocks.

re: #199 Occasional Reader

I didn't even fall asleep in it!

Sarah P/Joe W - 2012 !

re: #203 Big Steve

The trailers try to make it out as a geezer 'Dirty Harry' which it isn't. It is far more. I don't go out to movies often and it was a long movie and I barely blinked through out the whole thing.

I do like the bit where he's facing down the gangsters with a good ol' fashioned Garand, though.

re: #205 formercorpsman

Oh yeah, the stinians don't have weapons.

They can only throw rocks.

I hope you just forgot your /sarc tag.

re: #209 Dark_Falcon

What do you think?

It's a first for me: I can identify a reporter's tailor. Carhartt.

re: #202 buzzsawmonkey

Nowadays, instead of showing a film as a "coming attraction," the trailer seems designed to make the movie look like something from the trailer park.

You're saying the preview is NOT my friend?!

re: #204 bulwrk

Defiance which is due out Jan 16th looks like it could be good

It really does. And the trailer for that one does make it look interesting. For once in my life, I'd like to see a group of Jews kicking a little Nazi ass - especially since it did happen.

Imagine the hysteria that would have ensued if it had been Geraldo or Shepard Smith filming when the alarm went off and everyone had to retreat to the bomb shelter.

re: #204 bulwrk
I plan to go see it.

re: #207 SagamoreGal

Sarah P/Joe W - 2012 !

Let's not get carried away.

This Joe video must make it outside the PJTV website.

It needs to edited into 30-60 second segments and put on YouTube.

That was awesome. Joe did a better job at actually - you know - reporting - than any "pro" I've seen in recent memory. I really liked that part where he quizzed the "pros" following him around and got one reporter to say "I'm just a reporter" to explain himself in relation to why most news services show such bias against Israel.

re: #210 formercorpsman

What do you think?

I think you just forgot.

re: #174 lifeofthemind

Mad Magazines First 100 minutes of the Obama Presidency.
HT Theo Spark.
[Link: 3.bp.blogspot.com...]

My favorites:
Send note to every girl who rejected him in high school on stationery marked "Office of the President of the U.S.".

Screw with Secret Service agents by shouting out "Hey it's almost prayer time. Which way is Mecca?"

Set alarm for 3:00 a.m. in order to crank call Hillary.

re: #211 wrenchwench

It's a first for me: I can identify a reporter's tailor. Carhartt.

Heh.

I think if Anderson Cooper attempted to put on a blue-collar Carhartt garment, he'd shriek and melt like the Wicked Witch of the West.

re: #95 DeafDog
Ya know, Hot Air is probably right, but we've had virtually nothing but biased media reporting all the way on Israel/Hamas/Gaza. And the questions/answers Joe asked and gave were spot on.
No - he didn't go to J school, maybe that's why he can ask questions about Israeli's living under the threat of rocket attacks SO ACCURATELY. He doesn't have to worry about his "editors" forcing his words to mean something other than what he said.
AND I LIKE THE QUESTIONS/ANSWERS JOE IS ASKING AND ANSWERING.

re: #217 buzzsawmonkey

You know it.

This is playing in the background while I type.

I am smiling so much right now. I love this guy. OMG, I love this guy.

Definite balls.

re: #192 Big Steve

Not to go OT on you all but I saw 'Gran Torino' this weekend. It was completely awesome!

4.5 out of 5 stars.

re: #213 subsailor68

It really does. And the trailer for that one does make it look interesting. For once in my life, I'd like to see a group of Jews kicking a little Nazi ass - especially since it did happen.

re: Defiance --- my hubby just watched it on a screener the other night and he said it was very good. An old fashioned, butt-kicking, action movie with a real story. No metrosexuals involved in the production, I guess. ;D

Watch the video and see what Israelis have been living through for years and years. Contemplate that sudden death could come at any moment to you and/or loved ones while doing just anything of daily living. Imagine living life 24/7 with that thought.

Now try to explain Buchanan, and Carter and Brzezinski, and all the rest who have dismissed this as just a minor inconvenience as anything but the scumbag Jew haters they all are.

re: #7 Kosh's Shadow

You are entirely correct: these are the stories the media should be doing. Unfortunately, they don't happen to help the side that the MSM is on. So the MSM doesn't give them any play. A "scoop" doesn't matter as much as making sure the right side gets their propaganda out.

And the "wrong" side is properly suppressed.

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

Nah brother, blatantly obvious, IMO no sarc needed.

re: #182 Walter L. Newton
Uh huh. Bernie ought to be in prison with a cellmate named "Bubba".

re: #230 realwest

Uh huh. Bernie ought to be in prison with a cellmate named "Bubba".

Bill Clinton was never convicted!

re: #221 MandyManners

My favorites:
Send note to every girl who rejected him in high school on stationery marked "Office of the President of the U.S.".

Screw with Secret Service agents by shouting out "Hey it's almost prayer time. Which way is Mecca?"

Set alarm for 3:00 a.m. in order to crank call Hillary.

I like the part where he sneaks out for a smoke..He is going to drive the secret service insane.

re: #226 kynna

re: Defiance --- my hubby just watched it on a screener the other night and he said it was very good. An old fashioned, butt-kicking, action movie with a real story. No metrosexuals involved in the production, I guess. ;D

Thanks! Your hubby's review is enough to make me line up to buy a ticket.

re: #184 Leonidas Hoplite
Excellent comment. Truly. Thanks for that one!

re: #191 opinionated

I have never seen all their damage caused by Hamas to Israeli homes on any news program?

Isn't that remarkable?

* * *
No, leftists' narratives are pre-approved by Hamas to only cover some Potemkin Baal child sacrificing villages.

I don't understand the biased reporting issue being discussed.

On one side is a democratic country, Israel. The other side is a terror organization, Hamas, firing thousands of rockets at women and children.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian One of the best movies ever made. And no bet from me!
Have y'all seen it before?

re: #208 Occasional Reader

I do like the bit where he's facing down the gangsters with a good ol' fashioned Garand, though.

Saw Gran Torino this weekend with the wife. Probably the best movie (bar none) that I've seen in five years! Definately a 5 star performance. The support staff were great, and Clint's rendition of a cranky old coot was a hoot. I won't give away the story line, but the scene where he's confronting some of the 'food ladies' had me chuckling for hours.

Israel Steps Up Its PR Offensive.

The Israeli air force has released video which it claims shows remotely targeted bombs being directed away from civilians at the last minute. It says it proves it is trying to avoid unnecessary casualties.

Is anyone keeping track of the YouTube/LiveLeak videos or other reports of the demonstrations across the world? I would but, I don't have the space in My Favorites, and they tend to get shuffled randomly at times.

re: #237 realwest

I'd guess 80% of LGF has seen "The Shawshank Redemption".

re: #227 opinionated

Watch the video and see what Israelis have been living through for years and years. Contemplate that sudden death could come at any moment to you and/or loved ones while doing just anything of daily living. Imagine living life 24/7 with that thought.

Now try to explain Buchanan, and Carter and Brzezinski, and all the rest who have dismissed this as just a minor inconvenience as anything but the scumbag Jew haters they all are.

I think they know. I think they just don't care.

re: #213 subsailor68

It really does. And the trailer for that one does make it look interesting. For once in my life, I'd like to see a group of Jews kicking a little Nazi ass inflicting disproportionate brutal murder on outspoken German activists

(re-written for current media sensibilities)

re: #241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd guess 80% of LGF has seen "The Shawshank Redemption".

At least once.

re: #194 sphincter

GM is too big to fail!
Bernie Madoff is "too big" to go to jail!

* * *
Guess Martha Stewart wasn't big enough in some circles; is Martha Stewart the only inside-profiteer to do time in jail? I respect that though disgraced, she did her time and she's back out there making a living & employing people again.

re: #240 MandyManners

I think the ISM, and Iran might have a little cooperation going on.

re: #223 realwest

All true. I'd add two more points.

1. Michael Yon and Michael Totten are also not trained journalists, and have proven to be the only credible source on mid-east war reporting to date.

2. The MSM (especially the TV 'journalists') are all about how they look, IMO. They 'report' from the back and get their scoops from dishonest stringers.

BTW - I was just playing on nick-names. I was not trying to belittle Joe's accomplishment.

re: #194 sphincter
"Bernie Madoff is "too big" to go to jail!"
My his ass! He sure as hell belongs in jail, not in his luxury penthouse and I don't CARE how much he's cooperating - he'd a cooperated the first time he was locked in a cell with a 6'6" 280lb dude nicnamed "Bubba", trust me on that!

re: #228 Iron Fist

You are entirely correct: these are the stories the media should be doing. Unfortunately, they don't happen to help the side that the MSM is on. So the MSM doesn't give them any play. A "scoop" doesn't matter as much as making sure the right side gets their propaganda out.

And the "wrong" side is properly suppressed.

The media can do as much damage, if not more, by what they suppress as opposed to what they do present.
They have the power to set the agenda on what is and is not discussed and that is a powerful and dangerous tool in the hands of idealogues. Their idealogy has no business being in the news business....period.

re: #232 HoosierHoops

I like the part where he sneaks out for a smoke..He is going to drive the secret service insane.

Why not just install a vent?! I know no one else is allowed to smoke on federal property but, this guy's gonna' be stressed to the max at times and needs to have his concentration focused.

re: #236 faraway

I don't understand the biased reporting issue being discussed.

On one side is a democratic country, Israel. The other side is a terror organization, Hamas, firing thousands of rockets at women and children.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

With us?

Joe better be careful out there.

Some very dangerous folks are going to be after him now.

re: #242 MandyManners

I think they do care. I believe all three I cited -and those like them- take pleasure in Jewish suffering. And outrage at Jewish response.

re: #251 MandyManners

You know I have not given much thought to his smoking. Just never one of the issues for me.

But, you make a good point.

re: #251 MandyManners

Can't imagine not being able to smoke as President.

re: #9 Kyle_st

This guy is so far superior to the MSM, their toes must be curling in their shoes something fierce!

Things have got so bad with the credability of the mainstream MSM, that we now have to depend on Roto-Rooter for fair and balanced news? Go figure.

re: #248 realwest

"Bernie Madoff is "too big" to go to jail!"
My his ass! He sure as hell belongs in jail, not in his luxury penthouse and I don't CARE how much he's cooperating - he'd a cooperated the first time he was locked in a cell with a 6'6" 280lb dude nicnamed "Bubba", trust me on that!

Revoke his bail, and throw his thievin' ass in jail.

re: #241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd guess 80% of LGF has seen "The Shawshank Redemption".

I couldn't make it throught the whole thing.

I was on a UK news site thread a couple days ago, I think it was an article about the mob violence in London, and many UK/Brit commenters were saying things like "Why won't our government DO anything? O Noes! Why O why?"

I didn't have time, but I thought, "Why don't YOU do something? There comes a time, when the schoolteacher won't stop the bullies from beating you up, and it's obvious that she won't, that she has no inclination to, and even that she is enabling and encouraging the bullies, a time when you must say I WILL DEFEND MY NATION, MY CITY, MY BLOCK, MY HOME."

Many will just curl up into a ball and let the bullies (and the teacher) do whatever harm they wish, all the while whining that the teacher won't do anything. It seems that aside from Israel, the whole of the civilized world is curling up into a ball and whining that their leaders won't DO something.

Subversive thought for the day. I live in a relatively small town, but if pro-pally demonstrators or riotous morons of any other stripe decided that breaking all the windows on Main Street was a plan, I would hope that the men of this town would DO SOMETHING. And not just whine anonymously on some website about the town's government not doing anything.

Where are the men?

re: #209 Dark_Falcon

I hope you just forgot your /sarc tag.

Safe bet that he did. The left has said that very thing tho.

re: #251 MandyManners

Why not just install a vent?! I know no one else is allowed to smoke on federal property but, this guy's gonna' be stressed to the max at times and needs to have his concentration focused.

I have a feeling his private bathroom is going to stink from cigs..and whatever else he smokes in there.

re: #252 MandyManners

With us?

Not you MM.

Just the people that have a problem with Joe not trying to be objective concerning Hamas.

re: #259 MandyManners

You cannot be serious? Why not?