Video: Hamas Rockets Fired from Schoolyard During ‘Humanitarian Cease Fire’
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During the January 8th “cease fire” to allow humanitarian supplies to enter Gaza:
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:49:06am |
In related news, looks like the Hamas thugs are starting to really sweat.
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Wyatt Earp Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:50:05am |
NYT (After "breaking" this story.): "Move along, nothing to see here."
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jcm Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:50:31am |
Someone who gets it....
Carlos Alberto Montaner is a Cuban-born writer, journalist, and former professor. He is one of the most influential and widely-read columnists in the Spanish-language media, syndicated in dozens of publications in Latin America, Spain and the United States.
Tel Aviv's critics -- from whom an anti-Semitic stench often rises -- do not say whether Israel should increase its quota of cadavers or if it must reduce the Arabs' quota to achieve the reasonable proportion of blood that will soothe the peculiar itch for parity that afflicts them. Nor do they specify the morally permissible number of casualties to end the rain of rockets that for years has been constantly falling on the heads of Israeli civilians.
RTWT, it's short, to the point.
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Wishing Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:51:10am |
I think this was posted at the time on the IDF site....why are we reviewing it?
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Hard Right Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:51:13am |
Those kids have some wicked playground equipment.
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CIA Reject Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:51:15am |
So they got the "humanitarian relief supplies" and shot some of them back.
///////This is news?
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Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:52:04am |
re: #7 Wishing
Because it makes for an interesting discussion and keeps the despicable tactics of Hamas and their ilk front and center. Never forget.
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Hard Right Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:52:26am |
You question the great Lizard? Off with your tails!
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:52:31am |
re: #1 Occasional Reader
In related news, looks like the Hamas thugs are starting to really sweat.
From your link
Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh indicated Monday night that he was willing to discuss a truce.
That means they are losing and need a hudna to regain their strength, re-arm, and train some 6 year olds to fight.
Israel STOMP HAM-ASS OUT NOW! Don't stop!
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jaunte Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:52:35am |
re: #1 Occasional Reader
I'd like to see the words "unconditional surrender" begin appearing in those stories.
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AmeriDan Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:52:55am |
re: #5 jcm
do not say whether Israel should increase its quota of cadavers or if it must reduce the Arabs' quota
Yup, he gets it.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:53:16am |
Well when else were they supposed to fire? Its too damn dangerous when the IDF is actively attacking. If those pesky Jews had honored the ceasefire, those missiles could have been fired in peace.
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Wyatt Earp Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:53:39am |
I cannot wait for the IDF to end this once and for all.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:54:43am |
re: #17 Wyatt Earp
I cannot wait for the IDF to end this once and for all.
(stuck record from my #15, I'm afraid ...)
Black flag!
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Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:55:00am |
re: #13 jaunte
I'd like to see the words "unconditional surrender" begin appearing in those stories.
Hamas will only agree to that is it allows them to rearm and retrain. Hamas needs to be completely eliminated and a new government willing to help the people of Gaza need to be installed. I really hope that the civilian populace is taking notice and realizing that Hamas brought the pain down on them. Maybe they'll rethink voting them in to power next time.
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subsailor68 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:55:05am |
re: #13 jaunte
I'd like to see the words "unconditional surrender" begin appearing in those stories.
I'd love to see these words: "Hi, I'm Golda Meir. What's going on here?"
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Wyatt Earp Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:55:43am |
OT: Altas Shrugs is ahead of LGF at the Weblog Awards.
Don't let this "woman" finish higher than LGF. Please.
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:55:48am |
re: #17 Wyatt Earp
I cannot wait for the IDF to end this once and for all.
* * *
Sorry but freedom & liberty require everlasting vigilance.
There is no final victory in this fight, for ANY of us.
No resting on our laurels.
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:56:04am |
The link to this blog comes from yhe Muqata:
[Link: shmuel.ahdut.com...]
Lots of good videos ...
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Wishing Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:56:11am |
re: #10 Jetpilot1101
Because it makes for an interesting discussion and keeps the despicable tactics of Hamas and their ilk front and center. Never forget.
LOL like I could forget? We need to pay attention to what is going on a bit closer to home by these scumbags as well, ie the cops in London running from the mohammedans while the mohammedans are yelling, RUN COWARDS!
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elevenbravo1969 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:56:31am |
re: #13 jaunte
Unconditional surrender by hamas should be the only acceptable terms.
Israel must continue the assault unabated until that happens.
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DeafDog Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:56:38am |
re: #13 jaunte
I'd like to see the words "unconditional surrender" begin appearing in those stories.
Yup!
Anything less than that is just extending the misery.
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AmeriDan Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:56:53am |
re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well when else were they supposed to fire? Its too damn dangerous when the IDF is actively attacking. If those pesky Jews had honored the ceasefire, those missiles could have been fired in peace.
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Some people just don't know how to lay back and take what's good for 'em.
/
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CIA Reject Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:57:01am |
re: #23 alegrias
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Sorry but freedom & liberty require everlasting vigilance.There is no final victory in this fight, for ANY of us.
No resting on our laurels.
Correct! Evil is persistant, and pernicious.
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Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:57:02am |
I wonder if those three Hamas retards arming the thing survived.
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subsailor68 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:57:28am |
re: #25 Wishing
LOL like I could forget? We need to pay attention to what is going on a bit closer to home by these scumbags as well, ie the cops in London running from the mohammedans while the mohammedans are yelling, RUN COWARDS!
Wish they'd try that with the Texas Rangers. The only thing they'd be yelling in that case would be OOPS!
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Silhouette Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:57:31am |
Evil = firing rockets
Evil x 100* = firing at civilians
Evil x 100 x 2 = doing it during a 'cease' fire
Evil x 100 x 2 x 10 = the cease fire was because your enemy agreed to get food and medicine to you
Evil x 100* x 2 x 10 x 100* = intentionally firing from a location that endangers the lives of your own innocents.
*on a scale of 1-100
Is there a better way of saying it than really, really, really, really evil?
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lawhawk Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:58:04am |
re: #31 buzzsawmonkey
Served in 30 mm rockets or your money back. /
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freedombilly Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:58:13am |
Cease fires evidently don't apply to terrorists even when they negotiate it.
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DeafDog Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:59:36am |
re: #19 Jetpilot1101
Hamas will only agree to that is it allows them to rearm and retrain. Hamas needs to be completely eliminated and a new government willing to help the people of Gaza need to be installed. I really hope that the civilian populace is taking notice and realizing that Hamas brought the pain down on them. Maybe they'll rethink voting them in to power next time.
IMO, they are trying to hold on 8 more days to catch a break from the new, 'engaging' POTUS.
BHO will score his first points with me - ever - if, as POTUS, he publically backs Israel in this fight.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:00:29pm |
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Wishing Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:00:33pm |
re: #27 DeafDog
Yup!
Anything less than that is just extending the misery.
I do not expect to see an unconditional surrender at all. This will simply be a baton-passing between hamas and fatah.
Until there is some avenue opened where the mohammnedans can all live together on common soil, ie Jordan or Egypt, this nonsense WILL continue.
With Bibi in office, the *two state solution* is inevitable.
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Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:00:46pm |
Hamas Rocket Launcher - $1000
Hamas Rocket Arming Squad - Volunteers
1 IDF Precision Guided Munition - $10,000
Watching the IDF send three thugs and an instrument of death to meet 72 raisins on YouTube - Priceless
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jcm Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:00:49pm |
It's a strategy, one in which the MSM is complicit in.
Hamas sets up a offensive military unit in a protected zone, in this case the UN School, this a a WAR CRIME. They will persist in doing so until the IDF responds.
The IDF response is legal, the WAR CRIME is on the side of Hamas violating protected zones. The IDF response is moral, as self defense always is. The response is required by a legitimate government to protect it's citizens.
The MSM is complicit in a WAR CRIME by only publicizing the IDF response, never mentioning the legal, moral and required nature of the response or the WAR CRIME of Hamas in placing a military unit in a protect zone.
The MSM is guilty of aiding, abetting, encouraging, WAR CRIMES by the failure to correctly, accurately report the facts.
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:00:50pm |
Some stunning photos of today's actions at The Muqata worth a look!
He also says this:
'9:05 PM Both Channel 1 and Channel 2 Israel TV report that an Israeli flag is now flying over the ruins of the Jewish Netzarim settlement.'
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:00:52pm |
re: #25 Wishing
LOL like I could forget? We need to pay attention to what is going on a bit closer to home by these scumbags as well, ie the cops in London running from the mohammedans while the mohammedans are yelling, RUN COWARDS!
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And the 150 GazanAmericans asking for a free evacuation ride back to the Infidel UncleGreat Satan...to Dearbornistan or the NYT or wherever enablers gather to plot & throw things.
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opnion Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:01:05pm |
Do not fall for this Israeli propaganda. Hamas is really just a social-athletic club. They will soon locate to Chicago, so that they can play 16 inch softball in Grant Park.
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bulwrk Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:01:07pm |
Israel should paint the sole of a shoe on all their artillery shells and send them their reply.
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jwb7605 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:01:32pm |
re: #5 jcm
Someone who gets it....
Carlos Alberto Montaner is a Cuban-born writer, journalist, and former professor. He is one of the most influential and widely-read columnists in the Spanish-language media, syndicated in dozens of publications in Latin America, Spain and the United States.
RTWT, it's short, to the point.
Good article, but I disagree with the premise.
USA is another country that is "expected" to take casualties. Remember the headlines (and hidden glee) when we took #1000 and #2000 in Iraq?
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eon Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:01:54pm |
It takes a certain level of obliviousness to continue loading up launchers with combat aircraft orbiting overhead. One can only assume that the Hamasholes on the launcher crew believed that (as always) their god would not allow them to fail.
I hereby nominate them for a Darwin Award. They clearly failed the test of evolution.
/Which they probably didn't believe in, anyway.
cheers
eon
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AmeriDan Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:02:25pm |
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:02:33pm |
re: #26 elevenbravo1969
Unconditional surrender by hamas should be the only acceptable terms.
Israel must continue the assault unabated until that happens.
* * *
Hello, their instructions are to LIE, even if they were to beg for "unconditional surrender"--what's the word, Kitman? Lying to the infidel is permissible.
Like the NYT's policy.
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desdichado Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:03:15pm |
For those of you that have some time:
I just got an email forwarded to a friend of mine in Israel (it was in Hebrew so it is no good to copy/paste). Apparently, there is significant effort to kick out the IDF channel from YouTube. So the IDF channel has asked everyone who has an interest in seeing these kinds of IDF combat videos of strikes on weapons-infected mosques and schools as shown above, to please subscribe to the IDF YouTube channel and also to give good "recommendations" (only if you like it, of course! :-)
Thanks. Here is the link:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:03:35pm |
re: #31 buzzsawmonkey
The Hamas School Launch Program, underwritten by the UNRWA.
Smokin' hot launches for all the little scholars!
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I hear the powdered milk is dynomite!
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opnion Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:03:36pm |
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Dustyvet Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:04:56pm |
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jcm Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:05:32pm |
re: #55 Dustyvet
And with the Happy Meal you get a hand grenade.
The economy is trouble, when I was a kid we got a Claymore.
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bulwrk Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:05:39pm |
re: #31 buzzsawmonkey
The Hamas School Launch Program, underwritten by the UNRWA.
Smokin' hot launches for all the little scholars!
Offered at rocket bottom prices
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:05:58pm |
re: #26 elevenbravo1969
Unconditional surrender by hamas should be the only acceptable terms.
Israel must continue the assault unabated until that happens.
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Did you not hear President Bush say this is a new kind of war? There will not be any "surrender" ceremonies on the decks of carriers, like in WWII.
To say "we surrender" hurts jihadists' feelings. We might "win" in Iraq, for example, but we can't say that either, because it hurts the NYT's feelings and the jihadists' feelings.
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Kragar Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:06:07pm |
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opnion Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:06:19pm |
This is off of topic, but if I say so myself, I posted a really funny joke #80 on the last thread. I type too slow.
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Dustyvet Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:06:50pm |
re: #56 jcm
The economy is trouble, when I was a kid we got a Claymore.
I got a tank in a box of Cracker Jacks once...:)
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:07:13pm |
re: #27 DeafDog
Yup!
Anything less than that is just extending the misery.
* * *
Colin Powell didn't ask Saddam Hussein to surrender unconditionally, did he?
And look what happened.
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subsailor68 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:07:34pm |
re: #51 alegrias
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Hello, their instructions are to LIE, even if they were to beg for "unconditional surrender"--what's the word, Kitman? Lying to the infidel is permissible.Like the NYT's policy.
Yep, it can be either:
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Sifty Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:07:45pm |
re: #58 alegrias
Surrender ceremonies imply that there are some terrorists still alive.
I hope for a lack of attendance from the other side.
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CIA Reject Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:08:42pm |
re: #61 Dustyvet
I got a tank in a box of Cracker Jacks once...:)
That musta been one big-@ssed box!
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:08:56pm |
re: #36 buzzsawmonkey
Try the Car Shwarma!
* * **
Can you believe there are new Shwarma places popping up all over Washington, DC, our nation's Capital?
What can this mean, I wonder.
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CapeCoddah Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:09:01pm |
Good Afternoon everyone! I trust everyone is well this beautiful day!
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DeafDog Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:09:03pm |
re: #40 Wishing
I do not expect to see an unconditional surrender at all. This will simply be a baton-passing between hamas and fatah.
Until there is some avenue opened where the mohammnedans can all live together on common soil, ie Jordan or Egypt, this nonsense WILL continue.
With Bibi in office, the *two state solution* is inevitable.
Until other world leaders start calling for it, you are right not to expect an "unconditional surrender." But that's what's needed to completely discredit Hamas and - perhaps - give the region a chance for a lasting reconciliation, IMO.
I'm not making a prediction on how the current hostilities will play out, but my point is that if you truly want peace, a 'ceasefire' is pointless. It just gives the savages a chance to rearm. We've been down that path too often to be fooled again. No more 'cease-fires.' Demand unconditional surrender or the military pressure should continue. A cease-fire just prolongs the misery.
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Sifty Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:09:35pm |
re: #64 alegrias
Powell lost his nerve after seeing the mess the A-10's made of the Highway of Death during the retreat from Kuwait. At least that is what I have read.
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Dustyvet Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:09:43pm |
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Mich-again Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:09:53pm |
There's some good content for an episode of "Destroyed in Seconds". One of my new favorite cable shows.
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subsailor68 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:09:55pm |
re: #68 buzzsawmonkey
Now you can own your very own Taqiyya Kit, man!
Hey, I sent away for one, but it never arrived. Do you think they lied to me?
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Sifty Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:10:35pm |
re: #70 alegrias
Must mean that CNN's stringers are going to be in town for the next 4 years.
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Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:11:10pm |
re: #71 CapeCoddah
Good Afternoon everyone! I trust everyone is well this beautiful day!
Nice dusting of Global Warming we had last night.
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jwb7605 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:11:11pm |
re: #73 Sifty
Powell lost his nerve after seeing the mess the A-10's made of the Highway of Death during the retreat from Kuwait. At least that is what I have read.
How did he ever get to be a general? Killing the enemy is what war is about. If they're "retreating" with truckloads of loot, keep killing them until they stop and surrender.
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azlovestx Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:11:25pm |
you know, if it weren't so twisted and sick it would be comical. FINISH THE TASK ISRAEL.
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opnion Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:11:43pm |
Don't ya think that Hamas cred is really at a low level with the locals.
They parade around with RPG's & automaic weapons, talkig really big about pushing Israel into the sea. Israel shows up & Hamas can't even protect the populace & pretty much hunkers down. The mercy being shown to civilians is by the hated Israelis.
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Ayatollah Ghilmeini Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:12:00pm |
But the best time to commit war crimes is when the truce is on!
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jcm Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:12:04pm |
re: #73 Sifty
Powell lost his nerve after seeing the mess the A-10's made of the Highway of Death during the retreat from Kuwait. At least that is what I have read.
A retreating army is still a target. It can regroup, and inflict damages.
It is a target until the white flag goes up, and arms go down.
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Ayatollah Ghilmeini Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:12:09pm |
MEMRI: Islamic Scholar Yusef Qawadari:
"The Jews have lived as dhimmis in our land for a long time, and no Muslim violated the covenant with them. They were free, and were among the richest people of the nation. It reached the point that the Muslims envied them. They were close to the sultans, the kings, and the rulers of those times. Despite this, they were not faithful to the [covenant]. When they were banished from Europe, they found no compassionate bosom, no cave to shelter them, except for the lands of Islam. It was the Ottoman Empire, the Mameluke state, and the Islamic countries that received them with open arms, [and] gave them shelter and protection – but when [the Jews] gained influence, they turned their backs on them, and we have become their victims."
"We Wait for the Revenge of Allah to Descend Upon Them [i.e. the Jews] – And, Allah Willing, It Will Be By Our Own Hands""This is one of the peculiarities of our times. The nation upon which abasement and humiliation was inflicted, and which drew the wrath of Allah – the people most covetous of life – we have become their victims. The cowards have grown bold in their attitude towards us, the weak and humiliated have grown strong in their dealings with us. The small birds in our land have turned into eagles, and the sheep have turned into wolves that devour us. What has befallen our nation?!
Dear Imam Qawadari,
You are the problem with the Islamic world.
You just gave a big speech on al Jazeerah and none of your facts are right. You may think the Jews were free under Islam but your idea of freedom was centuries of horrid abuse and mistreatment. Muslims would kill Jews for sport and Jews were powerless to resist. The only reason Jews attained any place in Islamic society is we always valued education, the Islamic world doesn't so when Islamic leaders needed someone smart and trustworthy, they brought in a Jew. Plus, Jews feared for their very lives every minute they worked for the tyrants- the slightest failing meant torture or death for the Jew and his whole family; there's Islamic society for you in a nutshell.
The Arab world's goodbye to us was special too, thinking their sheer numbers would collapse the newly founded state of Israel, you stole their property and booted them to Israel to die in the next war or fail.
Your next factual error, not many Jews fled from Europe to the Islamic world over the ages. You guys had done such a special job in the areas of human development, that only a few Jews came east to avoid the inquisition.
So far, your call for our destruction has not been heard on high. Perhaps you might consider that the Creator that made the Jewish people and made them the only people to be displaced form their land, survive and return, not once, but twice, might have a plan for us different than your own.
So now you call for our utter destruction and annihilation. I must assume that this planned war crime is permitted under the Koran as you are reputed to be an expert on the subject. The fact as few Palestinian civilians as possible have died in the fight means nothing. Nowhere in Koran does it absolve people of the moral responsiblity for their actions, yet you are silent about Hamas calls and efforts to murder Jews with rockets. It must be OK for Muslims to do that; well under Israeli and Jewish Law, we have a right to defend ourselves.
We are left with the choice of following our ancient laws and morals, the ones you claim your Koran "perfects," or we can kneel at your feet and live like dogs subservient to an Islamic world who revere you as intelligent, learned and moral, when, in fact, you are neither. You are a fraud and we both know it. How sad that you are regarded as one of the great modern sages of modern Islam. I think of the countless lives your ideas will ruin and thank the Creator for making me Jewish and restoring us to our ancient homeland to save the Muslim and Jewish worlds.
Regards and love to your wives,
Ghilmeini
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Dustyvet Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:13:02pm |
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DeafDog Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:13:02pm |
re: #51 alegrias
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Hello, their instructions are to LIE, even if they were to beg for "unconditional surrender"--what's the word, Kitman? Lying to the infidel is permissible.Like the NYT's policy.
Of course Hamas is dishonest, but a 'surrender' would be a new level of shame, IMO, discrediting them to an extent that they have never before had to endure. Would they break their word? Almost certainly. But 'surrender' at least advances the ball. Ending with a "Ceasefire" is like that Movie 'Groundhog Day.'
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jwb7605 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:13:12pm |
re: #84 jcm
A retreating army is still a target. It can regroup, and inflict damages.
It is a target until the white flag goes up, and arms go down.
NOW you tell us.
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jcm Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:13:12pm |
re: #83 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
But the best time to commit war crimes is when the truce is on!
With the MSM running your cover.... it's really easy too.
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Sunlight Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:13:14pm |
Carl in Jerusalem and Gateway Pundit linked this video:
hChildren as shields in violent Oslo Anti Israel protest
While the video is predictable, the comments are just what we've talked about here for more than a year. The commenters aren't calling for laws to be enforced, they are calling for "Christian Europe" to stand up. Bad stuff is on the way.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:13:59pm |
re: #73 Sifty
Powell lost his nerve after seeing the mess the A-10's made of the Highway of Death during the retreat from Kuwait. At least that is what I have read.
The infamous "Highway of Death" consisted mostly of empty destroyed vehicles.
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:14:08pm |
re: #49 eon
It takes a certain level of obliviousness to continue loading up launchers with combat aircraft orbiting overhead. One can only assume that the Hamasholes on the launcher crew believed that (as always) their god would not allow them to fail.
I hereby nominate them for a Darwin Award. They clearly failed the test of evolution.
/Which they probably didn't believe in, anyway.
cheers
eon
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How about Hamas believes it can continue committing WAR CRIMES (launching rockets from schools) with UN protection?
The UN has these War Criminals' back. With your tax dollars.
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Jetpilot1101 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:14:28pm |
re: #89 DeafDog
I think if they were forced to surrender it may cause them to lose a lot of face in the Middle East. Even if they broke it, it may have the effect of completely discrediting them with the civilian populace.
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WriterMom Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:15:08pm |
re: #31 buzzsawmonkey
Funny.
With freshly picked strawberries from the fields where the children play, and olives from the ancestral groves that the Zionazis stole!
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:15:25pm |
re: #87 buzzsawmonkey
Was there a zoo next door to this school?
You're referring to the Holy Martyrs Petting Zoo and Mortar Dump?
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Wishing Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:15:48pm |
re: #52 desdichado
For those of you that have some time:
I just got an email forwarded to a friend of mine in Israel (it was in Hebrew so it is no good to copy/paste). Apparently, there is significant effort to kick out the IDF channel from YouTube. So the IDF channel has asked everyone who has an interest in seeing these kinds of IDF combat videos of strikes on weapons-infected mosques and schools as shown above, to please subscribe to the IDF YouTube channel and also to give good "recommendations" (only if you like it, of course! :-)
Thanks. Here is the link:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
I just tried to post a comment: comments were disabled.
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Hard Right Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:16:13pm |
re: #66 Sifty
Surrender ceremonies imply that there are some terrorists still alive.
I hope for a lack of attendance from the other side.
IIRC, Holger Awakens had a humorous pic of a Hamas "Graduating Ceremony"
Heh.
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jcm Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:16:29pm |
re: #90 jwb7605
NOW you tell us.
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Ah! Hah!
You were asleep during my course, "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." 101!
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subsailor68 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:16:43pm |
re: #98 WriterMom
Funny.
With freshly picked strawberries from the fields where the children play, and olives from the ancestral groves that the Zionazis stole!
Heh, heh. He was referring to the new program "No Child's Left Behind"
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bulwrk Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:16:43pm |
re: #82 opnion
Like the little plays that they love too put on at their rallies showing how powerful they are and then when the first Israeli shell lands they scream to the world for salvation.
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lawhawk Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:17:02pm |
re: #99 Occasional Reader
You're referring to the Holy Martyrs Petting Zoo and Mortar Dump?
Actually, I believe the full and proper name of that facility is the Holy Martyrs Cat Flinging Facility for Hamas Furries and Plushies and Ammo Dump.
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WriterMom Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:17:21pm |
re: #80 jwb7605
Husband said yesterday that the IDF showed footage of a munitions dump that the air force decided NOT TO BOMB because there was collateral damage possibility (ie: "civilians") right beside it, and they thought that showed their humanity. So, Israelis on the 'talk backs' are going crazy because that means THOSE BOMBS ARE GOING TO BE USED ON ISRAELIS. So, in their non-reciprocal attempt to 'save civilian lives', the IDF is saying Israeli lives are worth less. It's maddening!
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jwb7605 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:17:26pm |
re: #94 WriterMom
NO CEASE FIRE TILL NO HAMAS.
I disagree, because "no Hamas" is not a realistic goal. They are a 'guerrila' organization in the sense that most of them cannot be identified from civilians most of the time.
I do think a public surrender -- hopefully unconditional -- would work. That prevents them from "saving face", which weakens them in the public eye, and would eventually destroy them.
Until the survivors rename themselves, of course.
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WriterMom Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:17:52pm |
re: #99 Occasional Reader
Holy Martyrs Petting Zoo
No-they don't get that till they get to the raisins.
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:17:55pm |
re: #73 Sifty
Powell lost his nerve after seeing the mess the A-10's made of the Highway of Death during the retreat from Kuwait. At least that is what I have read.
* * *
My recollection too. Powell couldn't take the CNN images of highway "car-nage."
Powell Let a Thousand Thousand Saddam's Rethuglican Guards Regroup.
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jamgarr Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:18:24pm |
They thought it was "seize fire"
/Harpe Detonate
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Silhouette Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:18:30pm |
re: #95 Occasional Reader
The infamous "Highway of Death" consisted mostly of empty destroyed vehicles.
In Afghanistan, I read that our standard practice with Taliban supply convoys was to halt the convoy, remove all the drivers and other personnel, and only then blow up the trucks.
Clearly an action like this puts American lives more at risk than just bombing the convoys from the air.
We risk our lives to save the lives of our enemy, and still we are accused of being the 'worst' offenders for war crimes.
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jwb7605 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:18:32pm |
re: #102 jcm
Ah! Hah!
You were asleep during my course, "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women." 101!
That's what you were doing? I was consoling the women!
//
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desdichado Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:19:23pm |
re: #100 Wishing
IDF Channel on YouTube [Link: [Link: www.youtube.com...]...]
I just tried to post a comment: comments were disabled.
Yeah, comments are disabled, but you can subscribe to the channel (if you are a YouTube member), and in any case you can "rate" the videos by pressing on the appropriate star.
Why do you think there is so much pressure from certain people to disable the IDF channel? Let me think....
Anyway, thanks to all.
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:21:20pm |
re: #80 jwb7605
How did he ever get to be a general? Killing the enemy is what war is about. If they're "retreating" with truckloads of loot, keep killing them until they stop and surrender.
* * *
A better man, Robert T. Harrie or Harris, USNA 1954, was passed over for this political hack.
Frank Carlucci or someone brought him to Reagan's White House. Ugh. It's in the "Reagan Diaries" so I'm weeping over Powell's unfortunate unmerited rise.
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eon Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:21:57pm |
re: #96 alegrias
* * *
How about Hamas believes it can continue committing WAR CRIMES (launching rockets from schools) with UN protection?The UN has these War Criminals' back. With your tax dollars.
If the UN wasn't so determined to be "enablers" ( I hate using SocSci buzzwords, but no other definition fits) Hamas would have been out of business years ago. Not to mention Fatah, etc.
The only thing more unreal than the UN thinking that Hamas are the victims is their belief that doing more of what they've done up to now will bring "peace".
Whatever part of the General Assembly aren't either sympathizing with or intimidated by the various Palestinian groups seems to be so far removed from reality that , in Ronald Reagan's words re the Democrats, they've "left the understandable universe".
cheers
eon
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alegrias Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:23:38pm |
re: #89 DeafDog
Of course Hamas is dishonest, but a 'surrender' would be a new level of shame, IMO, discrediting them to an extent that they have never before had to endure. Would they break their word? Almost certainly. But 'surrender' at least advances the ball. Ending with a "Ceasefire" is like that Movie 'Groundhog Day.'
* * *
Hello, sorry but in this game, the goal is to keep the "Middle East Peace PROCESS" processing.
There's no real point, except to keep taking your $$$ for endless shuttle diplomacy signifying NOTHING.
Except free ride for mass murderers.
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Opinionated Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:23:47pm |
Hamas Rockets Fired from Schoolyard During 'Humanitarian Cease Fire'
Makes sense. Only the humans ceased their fire.
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desdichado Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:24:45pm |
I live in the DC area too, and when I cross into Virginia from Maryland it is almost like I travel into the Middle East, especially if I go to the expensive shopping malls at Tysons Corner. I have a nice story on how I was yelled at by a Commonwealth of Virginia employee who had on a burka so that I couldn't even see her eyes (there was some kind of screen over her face so I couldn't see anything--and she was working in a public office!).
I was in line, she called out "Next please" and I went to her, and she began yelling at me that she meant the other guy. I told her I couldn't see where she was looking because something was covering her eyes.
Then she proceed to yell and scream in the office building that I was a racist, and that I shouldn't make any comments about her clothing.
I yelled back at her that I really couldn't see who she was looking at.
Go figure.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:24:56pm |
re: #110 buzzsawmonkey
That zoo from yesterday's video really gets to me
Out of a sense of buzzsawsimian solidarity?
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:25:47pm |
re: #70 alegrias
* * **
Can you believe there are new Shwarma places popping up all over Washington, DC, our nation's Capital?What can this mean, I wonder.
several of the ones where I live are owned by Christians who have come here from the middle-east.
the few where the female employees wear hijabs - well, those I avoid like the plague.
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CapeCoddah Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:25:48pm |
Wow, there is a shock, Hamas fires rockets. Humanitarian and cease fire are not part of their lexicon.
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CapeCoddah Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:26:17pm |
re: #79 Jetpilot1101
Nice dusting of Global Warming we had last night.
LOL, I got more than a dusting! got about an inch!
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Silhouette Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:26:25pm |
re: #121 desdichado
She had waited all week for someone to say anything, please allan let them say something, about her outfit so she could scream victim.
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jcm Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:30:09pm |
re: #113 jwb7605
That's what you were doing? I was consoling the women!
//
And yet you had the gall to complain to the Dean when I flunked you.....
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wahabicorridor Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:31:33pm |
re: #121 desdichado
Yep, in Northern Virginia we are infested. I've been in physical altercations with some of these people.
(Don't even THINK about being mean to my dog!)
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Ben Hur Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:32:23pm |
re: #42 jcm
SAMAH is not a member state of the UN or any other international organization and is not subject to the Geneva Conventions.
Don't expect them to act as they are, and they should be treated as such.
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jcm Mon, Jan 12, 2009 12:34:41pm |
re: #130 Ben Hur
SAMAH is not a member state of the UN or any other international organization and is not subject to the Geneva Conventions.
Don't expect them to act as they are, and they should be treated as such.
I understand that. Even so, the IDF is, and is following the rules of war. My rant is more against the MSM who is complicit, enabling and encouraging of the tactics of Hamas by their slanted reporting.
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SpiritOf1683 Mon, Jan 12, 2009 1:11:06pm |
re: #106 WriterMom
Husband said yesterday that the IDF showed footage of a munitions dump that the air force decided NOT TO BOMB because there was collateral damage possibility (ie: "civilians") right beside it, and they thought that showed their humanity. So, Israelis on the 'talk backs' are going crazy because that means THOSE BOMBS ARE GOING TO BE USED ON ISRAELIS. So, in their non-reciprocal attempt to 'save civilian lives', the IDF is saying Israeli lives are worth less. It's maddening!
And you can bet those 'civilians' were there to prevent that munitions dump from being blown up by the Israelis. That dump SHOULD have been hit, and innocent Israelis might well be killed in the future because it wasn't hit. Since when was the life of your enemy worth more than your own life? If that is your calculus, then you've lost before you even begin.
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Silhouette Mon, Jan 12, 2009 1:27:20pm |
re: #106 WriterMom
How does that go? Kindness to evil is evil to the good?
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offendi Mon, Jan 12, 2009 2:05:43pm |
This very upsetting. Don't the leaders of Hamas wish to go to Allah and be sacred martyrs by fighting against the apes and pigs they call Jews? Why do they hide like rats in basements and bunkers? Shouldn't they show us they are the proud fighters who shell Israeli civilians? Who made fun of Shalit by claiming he was crying for his mommy?
Where is their courage? And where is Nasrallah of Hezballah to help them who says a lot and hides like a coward?
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Clubsec Mon, Jan 12, 2009 9:55:09pm |
OK people one more time:
The FUNDAMENTAL RULES OF THE MODERN BATTLEFIELD
(Developed after 30 years in the missile business)
1. If you are observable you will be seen.
2. If you are seen you will be targeted.
3. If you are targeted you will be hit.
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Mr Spiffy Mon, Jan 12, 2009 11:11:55pm |
re: #66 Sifty
Surrender ceremonies imply that there are some terrorists still alive.
I hope for a lack of attendance from the other side.
that deserved 4
updings, but I could only give you one
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Ilan Toren Tue, Jan 13, 2009 9:54:18pm |
After hundreds of such videos I wonder if it is having any noticeable effect on public opinion? I suppose that YouTube is major publishing option that has not existed in the past and it certainly has a level of exposure as great as that as network news, but do these numbers affect public opinion polls? And what about the one crying Palestinian child? Perhaps if these videos blunt the effect of Arab media efforts it will be enough to give Israel the breathing space to finish what they are starting. Will the US let the UN Security Council force an end to "Cast Lead" (stupid name IMHO) on terms that let Hamas go back to normal firing and rebuilding. In the end I want to see that the sacrifice is not wasted on a sub-par diplomatic solution. As well as the IDF is doing, even 10 causalities are way too many for the limited results so far.
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