Another extended report by “Joe the Plumber” focuses on the impact of Hamas rocket attacks on the people of southern Israel: Pajamas TV - Middle East Upate - Joe the Plumber - Video.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:34:40am |
this guy's 15 minutes of fame was up long ago
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Big Steve Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:34:53am |
sure wish I could SEE these at work damnit! Is it posted elsewhere?
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faraway Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:35:44am |
re: #2 spacejesus
this guy's 15 minutes of fame was up long ago
15 minutes. Wow. Hadn't heard that one before.
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redc1c4 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:38:03am |
re: #2 spacejesus
this guy's 15 minutes of fame was up long ago
you're hardly in a position to talk.....
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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:38:17am |
re: #6 redc1c4
biased reproting! he's not a REAL journalist!1!
/white smoke
I'd rather have Joe spreading the word than Obama the wealth.
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FrogMarch Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:39:04am |
oh no- an ordinary person [non-a-hole left-wing liberal] who would like to succeed in life despite the poo pooing from elitist liberal blow hards like Joy Baher and Bubba Wawa.
Stop him!
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Peacekeeper Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:39:21am |
If he doesn't have a degree from Yale or Princeton or Harvard he ain't shite.
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debutaunt Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:40:17am |
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Desert Dog Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:41:10am |
re: #9 blue_like_jazz
too many "uh's", joe
That's what I notice too. He is articulate enough, but that "uh" every few seconds grates a little
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DaddyG Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:41:11am |
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faraway Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:41:27am |
Joe needs to be careful with PJTV.
He needs to edit these clips and put the good parts on YouTube.
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DaddyG Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:41:44am |
re: #14 Desert Dog
That's what I notice too. He is articulate enough, but that "uh" every few seconds grates a little
He's trying to sound presidential.
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Peacekeeper Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:42:02am |
This bum is depriving some Columbia School of Journalism grad of a job. The nerve.
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Wendya Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:42:23am |
Oh, no! Joe isn't wearing a designer polo... he's wearing a .....ball cap!
I guess that means he ought to just shut up and leave interviews to his betters.
/
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faraway Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:43:03am |
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Wendya Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:43:16am |
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blue_like_jazz Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:43:16am |
re: #16 buzzsawmonkey
It didn't stand in the way of the President-elect.
indeed... but it sounds horrible from both.
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Silhouette Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:43:37am |
impact of Hamas rocket attacks on the people of southern Israel
Let me guess, it really, really sucks.
But being the strong people they are, they adapt and survive.
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Silhouette Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:44:01am |
How's many minutes does Cindy Sheehan have left?
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Wendya Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:44:37am |
re: #24 blue_like_jazz
indeed... but it sounds horrible from both.
I'll take an honest opinion over a polished lie.
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blue_like_jazz Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:45:23am |
re: #27 Wendya
I'll take an honest opinion over a polished lie.
of course!
but the uh's are still way irritating. he will get better with practice.
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Jinx Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:45:26am |
re: #21 Wendya
Oh, no! Joe isn't wearing a designer polo... he's wearing a .....ball cap!
I guess that means he ought to just shut up and leave interviews to his betters.
/
No, he just needs to go back to his Nascar and leave asking questions to REAL professionals like Dan Rather.
(This message brought to you by Fake But Real Inc.)
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Desert Dog Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:45:34am |
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redc1c4 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:45:47am |
re: #11 Peacekeeper
If he doesn't have a degree from Yale or Princeton or Harvard he ain't shite.
so, if you have one of those degrees, you ARE shite?
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faraway Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:45:52am |
Just put up a 60 second clip showing the kids playground that doubles as a bomb shelter.
Leave the other in the vault.
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Kragar Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:45:55am |
re: #25 Silhouette
Let me guess, it really, really sucks.
But being the strong people they are, they adapt and survive.
You adapt and survive to environmental or biological conditions.
You kill the bastards when someone launches rocket attacks against you.
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redc1c4 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:46:47am |
re: #25 Silhouette
Let me guess, it really, really sucks.
But being the strong people they are, they adapt and survive.
and they go DO something about it, instead of whining.
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Kragar Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:47:08am |
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x-wing Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:47:21am |
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DaddyG Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:47:30am |
Go easy on Joe the Plumbers reporting style. I am nostalgic for a time when our Presidential candidates and reporters didn't have to be primped to win American Idol as a qualification for leadership and credibility.
(Is it possible to be nostalgic for a time before you were born?)
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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:47:42am |
re: #27 Wendya
I'll take an honest opinion over a polished lie.
Therein lies the rub. Snake oil sells.
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Peacekeeper Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:47:53am |
re: #31 redc1c4
so, if you have one of those degrees, you ARE shite?
Well, not just any shite. Really, really special shite.
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redc1c4 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:47:54am |
re: #28 blue_like_jazz
of course!
but the uh's are still way irritating. he will get better with practice.
maybe if he had a teleprompter?
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faraway Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:48:08am |
Repost.
I knew CNN was just sticking it in blogger's faces.
They are now showing a video from World News and Features [yes that one] that follows a Hamas Ambulance driver around.
They hear a boom and go to a "house" that has been struck by a "bomb".
They find a young child at home in his bed.
[the child is already in his sweater and street clothes]
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:48:24am |
The official Hamas tv station, whose website was registered by Ashraf Mashharawi is taken off the air in France.....
France pulls plug on Al-Aqsa TV broadcasts into Europe
The French broadcasting authority Conseil supérieur de l'audiovisuel (CSA) has issued a broadcast ban on Hamas’ television channel Al-Aqsa TV.
The order was carried out only 24 hours after Hamas announced on Monday that it would start airing programs to Europe from Wednesday via a Eurobird European telecoms satellite operated by Eutelsat, a Paris-based company governed by French law.
According to the gag order, France argued that Al-Aqsa TV incites hatred and violence, saying its broadcasts “violate article 15 of the French media law of 30 September 1986 which prohibits all forms of incitement to hatred or violence on the ground of race, religion or nationality.”
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blangwort Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:48:39am |
re: #26 Silhouette
How's many minutes does Cindy Sheehan have left?
None. She has managed to disgrace herself and everything she stood for. She is now an empty shell of a person. I pity her. But I can't help or support someone who has no idea what she's doing.
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:48:50am |
He will get better with his delivery. It's what he is delivering that is the point, the unbiased, non-agenda, unaltered truth.
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baconeatingkaffir Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:49:02am |
Now wait just a minute... is he a licensed reporter? (yuk yuk yuk)
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:49:30am |
re: #41 faraway
Interesting. I can't wait until the clip shows up on youtube.
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faraway Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:49:49am |
re: #45 baconeatingkaffir
Now wait just a minute... is he a licensed reporter? (yuk yuk yuk)
And he's no longer a plumber
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Ojoe Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:50:06am |
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Peacekeeper Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:50:40am |
If professional journalists hadn't thrown away their credibility, Joe would still be brazing joints , laying pipe, fixing ball cocks.
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:50:48am |
re: #37 DaddyG
Go easy on Joe the Plumbers reporting style. I am nostalgic for a time when our Presidential candidates and reporters didn't have to be primped to win American Idol as a qualification for leadership and credibility.
(Is it possible to be nostalgic for a time before you were born?)
You and me both. I remember reading somewhere about Truman being mocked because he mispronounced words. A biographer (may have been Merle Miller) was researching in Independence MO, and checked the local library. He found that Harry Truman had checked out almost every book at one time or another.
He mispronounced words not because he didn't know them, and what they meant - he'd just never heard them spoken.
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baconeatingkaffir Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:51:05am |
re: #48 Ojoe
Here is the sound of a V-1 attack in London, it may give you some idea.
I canit remember where I downloaded them from but ther ewas a torrent server where you could download newscasts, sounds etc. from the second world war. It was quite spine chilling to listen to.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:51:35am |
re: #50 subsailor68
You and me both. I remember reading somewhere about Truman being mocked because he mispronounced words. A biographer (may have been Merle Miller) was researching in Independence MO, and checked the local library. He found that Harry Truman had checked out almost every book at one time or another.
He mispronounced words not because he didn't know them, and what they meant - he'd just never heard them spoken.
Whodathout that?
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Kragar Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:52:07am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
The official Hamas tv station, whose website was registered by Ashraf Mashharawi is taken off the air in France.....
France pulls plug on Al-Aqsa TV broadcasts into Europe
SACRE MERDE!
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blue_like_jazz Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:52:43am |
i guess i need to put up a disclaimer:
LOVE that joe is on the ground over there
LOVE that he is telling the truth
LOVE that he is giving an unvarnished opinion
LOVE that he giving us different coverage
LOVE the Q & A he had with the obamanation
HATE the plethora of "uh's"
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:52:57am |
re: #41 faraway
Here's the CNN piece.....
Medics live dangerously in Gaza
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Jinx Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:53:07am |
He needs coaching on how to speak before a camera: ditch the "uh"s and the "and what not". Those are fixable mistakes in how he speaks. But considering he stepped off the street and started doing this job with no schooling should make the various schools of "journalism" quake in their ivory towers. Perhaps we are witnessing the rebirth of journalism in this unpolished gem.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:53:18am |
re: #44 newsjunkie_ky
He will get better with his delivery. It's what he is delivering that is the point, the unbiased, non-agenda, unaltered truth.
And that is a true rarity these days. Isn't it, NYT?
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faraway Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:53:23am |
re: #54 blue_like_jazz
i guess i need to put up a disclaimer:
LOVE that joe is on the ground over there
LOVE that he is telling the truth
LOVE that he is giving an unvarnished opinion
LOVE that he giving us different coverage
LOVE the Q & A he had with the obamanationHATE the plethora of "uh's"
Embrace the UH.
We are all UHs now.
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:53:36am |
re: #52 Nevergiveup
Whodathout that?
Yep. I sometimes think about that when people make fun of George W. Bush. Heck, he just talks like a Texan.
And yes, I live in Texas - and love it!
:-)
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seekeroftruth Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:53:39am |
I like the irony: the MSM destroyed his career, now he's on their turf and they are having a fit. I hope the circle of payback completes itself.
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baconeatingkaffir Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:53:48am |
re: #50 subsailor68
You and me both. I remember reading somewhere about Truman being mocked because he mispronounced words. A biographer (may have been Merle Miller) was researching in Independence MO, and checked the local library. He found that Harry Truman had checked out almost every book at one time or another.
He mispronounced words not because he didn't know them, and what they meant - he'd just never heard them spoken.
Yesbut unlike some recent presidents I'm sure he knew "what the definition of is, is" .
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blue_like_jazz Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:53:51am |
re: #56 Jinx
He needs coaching on how to speak before a camera: ditch the "uh"s and the "and what not". Those are fixable mistakes in how he speaks. But considering he stepped off the street and started doing this job with no schooling should make the various schools of "journalism" quake in their ivory towers. Perhaps we are witnessing the rebirth of journalism in this unpolished gem.
ding! that's why simon hired him, to be sure.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:54:03am |
Hmm....so he's unpolished. Big deal. He will save PJTV thousands on hairdryers and bryl-creme alone with his shaved pate
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ugetwhatuputout Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:54:11am |
When one considers the fact that we don't get this kind of perspective reported much anyways, I'm not complaining about his style. He is a representative of the common citizen of America, trying to give a first hand account of what Israelis are experiencing. I'm not going to judge someone who has the guts to go there and stand up to the international press who clearly report on only one side of this conflict.
Go Joe!
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:54:22am |
20:37 Turkish PM: Criticism of Gaza offensive doesn`t make me anti-Semite (News Agencies)
Nope it doesn't, but in your case we know exactly were your coming from.
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:54:23am |
re: #61 baconeatingkaffir
Yesbut unlike some recent presidents I'm sure he knew "what the definition of is, is" .
LOL! I do believe you're correct sir!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:54:51am |
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Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:55:01am |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Here's the CNN piece.....
Medics live dangerously in Gaza
Yeah, one of their fake "CPR resusitations" could be outed, and their widdle biddle feewings could get hurt.
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newsjunkie_ky Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:55:03am |
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:55:04am |
re: #64 Jewels (AKA Julian)
Hmm....so he's unpolished. Big deal. He will save PJTV thousands on hairdryers and bryl-creme alone with his shaved pate
A little dab will do ya!
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Guanxi88 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:55:08am |
re: #31 redc1c4
so, if you have one of those degrees, you ARE shite?
Aren't you guys forgetting the Sunni? What about the Sufis?
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DaddyG Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:55:10am |
re: #58 faraway
Embrace the UH.
We are all UHs now.
Uh O!
...the new leader of the free mortgaged world.
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:55:25am |
re: #68 buzzsawmonkey
It is extremely ironic that, although we decry the vacuousness of the usual media people--their pretty faces, often enhanced with surgery or botox, their careful coifs, their bland delivery--we still find ourselves more than ready to jump on someone, whether journalist or politician, who does not fulfill these superficial "qualifications."
Indeed.
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:55:46am |
re: #68 buzzsawmonkey
It is extremely ironic that, although we decry the vacuousness of the usual media people--their pretty faces, often enhanced with surgery or botox, their careful coifs, their bland delivery--we still find ourselves more than ready to jump on someone, whether journalist or politician, who does not fulfill these superficial "qualifications."
Well put indeed.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:55:54am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
The official Hamas tv station, whose website was registered by Ashraf Mashharawi is taken off the air in France.....
France pulls plug on Al-Aqsa TV broadcasts into Europe
The French automobile insurance industry must have applied pressure on the government to get that done.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:56:27am |
re: #77 pre-Boomer Marine brat
The French automobile insurance industry must have applied pressure on the government to get that done.
The "Le Car" is making a comeback!
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:56:45am |
re: #54 blue_like_jazz
i guess i need to put up a disclaimer:
LOVE that joe is on the ground over there
LOVE that he is telling the truth
LOVE that he is giving an unvarnished opinion
LOVE that he giving us different coverage
LOVE the Q & A he had with the obamanationHATE the plethora of "uh's"
Good enough for the Messi'uh', good enough for Joe.
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Guanxi88 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:57:08am |
re: #78 Wyatt Earp
The "Le Car" is making a comeback!
Cripes, I remember those! Seemed like the self-destruct mechanism was the only reliable part on 'em.
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faraway Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:57:21am |
At the 2:09 mark is the boy with his sweater on
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baconeatingkaffir Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:57:21am |
I'm so sick o the media brainwashing with their Gaza reporting. Didanyone see the totally out of control mobs in Germany and England and around the world? I have yet to see any footage of people in Japan or China protesting. COuld it be that they have jobs and better things to do in life?
Has anyone heard about the German cops intervening in a protest outside of some guy's house and removing his Israeli flags? Kind of sounds familiar doesn't it? German polizei Bow Down to Islamic retard mass
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LGoPs Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:57:26am |
re: #43 blangwort
None. She has managed to disgrace herself and everything she stood for. She is now an empty shell of a person. I pity her. But I can't help or support someone who has no idea what she's doing.
I prefer the term 'empty, dried out husk'.........and I don't pity her. I respect her grief as a mother but I lost all respect when she dishonestly politicized that grief.
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lawhawk Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:57:31am |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
They're probably rushing that story because a Palestinian medic was among those killed in recent fighting. They ascribe her death to an Israeli airstrike. No word on whether Hamas was responsible for inciting the airstrike by firing mortars and rockets or gunfire at Israeli positions in Gaza or rockets at Israeli communities....
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:57:43am |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Here's the CNN piece.....
Medics live dangerously in Gaza
Medics and corpsmen live dangerously everywhere. It is part of the job description.
Although Marine Corpsmen are Technically Navy Personnel, they wear THE EAGLE, GLOBE AND ANCHOR of the Marines because they take the same risks.
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:57:47am |
re: #78 Wyatt Earp
The "Le Car" is making a comeback!
My eldest sister used to have one of those many years ago...the engine caught fire.
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Jewels (AKA Julian) Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:57:54am |
I wish Joe the plumber luck with his new Job. He's learning the ropes and it will be interesting to see how he ends up.
th fact that it puts most of the Media into Conniptions is an additional bonus
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Wide Right Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:58:04am |
I must say that I wasn't really expecting too much when I heard that JTP was 'reporting' from Israel, but after seeing two reports now, I can honestly say that i am very impressed. He is doing a great job and he will only get better. Good job, Joe. You're honest and sincere reports are making us proud.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:58:12am |
re: #86 scottishbuzzsaw
My eldest sister used to have one of those many years ago...the engine caught fire.
The hamster must have overloaded. :)
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:58:12am |
re: #78 Wyatt Earp
The "Le Car" is making a comeback!
Which you may then drive to pick up a Le Royale with Cheese.
:-)
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Silhouette Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:58:56am |
File under: They're not sure who they hate, but they sure hate
A hardline demonstrator leaves after pouring kerosene on posters of U.S. President-elect Barack Obama, during a demonstration in support of the people of Gaza, in front of the Swiss Embassy in Tehran
Because he is mad at Israel over the Gaza action,
he protests the US,
in front of the Swiss Embassy,
in Iran.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:59:19am |
re: #78 Wyatt Earp
The "Le Car" is making a comeback!
Automobile sales must be booming.
/nowadays in France, "fire sale" doesn't mean what it does here
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DaddyG Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:59:21am |
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scottishbuzzsaw Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:59:25am |
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:59:28am |
re: #92 Silhouette
File under: They're not sure who they hate, but they sure hate
Because he is mad at Israel over the Gaza action,
he protests the US,
in front of the Swiss Embassy,
in Iran.
Where is the world is Carmen Sandiego?
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baconeatingkaffir Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:59:34am |
re: #92 Silhouette
File under: They're not sure who they hate, but they sure hate
Because he is mad at Israel over the Gaza action,
he protests the US,
in front of the Swiss Embassy,
in Iran.
But.. what about all that hope and change? (whine)
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Guanxi88 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:59:35am |
re: #89 Wyatt Earp
The hamster must have overloaded. :)
Got a pic, for the younger folk:
There is is, French automotive engineering at its finest. They lost market share when the Yugo came on-line. Yeah, they were that bad.
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:59:46am |
re: #90 subsailor68
Which you may then drive to pick up a Le Royale with Cheese.
:-)
Because of the metric system?
/
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:00:05am |
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:00:36am |
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blue_like_jazz Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:00:46am |
re: #68 buzzsawmonkey
It is extremely ironic that, although we decry the vacuousness of the usual media people--their pretty faces, often enhanced with surgery or botox, their careful coifs, their bland delivery--we still find ourselves more than ready to jump on someone, whether journalist or politician, who does not fulfill these superficial "qualifications."
so i love that he is the "average joe" (pun intended) who is sticking it to the media but i'm somehow not to be irritated with all of the "uh's"... i'm not supposed to say that i'm irritated because it's somehow taking away from what he's accomplishing?
okay.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:00:58am |
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Spare O'Lake Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:00:59am |
Erdogan said his criticism did not stem from anti-Semitism and emphasized that in the past he had termed anti-Semitism a crime against humanity.
But he then continued to say that "media outlets supported by Jews are disseminating false reports on what happens in Gaza, finding unfounded excuses to justify targeting of schools, mosques and hospitals."
I suppose he meant to say "Dem Jews"./
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:01:24am |
re: #106 SasquatchOnSteroids
Look at the big brain on OhNo !
Hey, Flock of Seagulls, where's the briefcase?
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DaddyG Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:01:31am |
re: #105 blue_like_jazz
so i love that he is the "average joe" (pun intended) who is sticking it to the media but i'm somehow not to be irritated with all of the "uh's"... i'm not supposed to say that i'm irritated because it's somehow taking away from what he's accomplishing?
okay.
I... uh ...hear you!
/
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Spider Mensch Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:01:42am |
re: #78 Wyatt Earp
The "Le Car" is making a comeback!
the only car to come with factory installed rust.
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WriterMom Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:01:43am |
I think Joe is cute. He's VERY well informed and articulate.
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baconeatingkaffir Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:01:57am |
re: #85 Nevergiveup
Medics and corpsmen live dangerously everywhere. It is part of the job description.
Although Marine Corpsmen are Technically Navy Personnel, they wear THE EAGLE, GLOBE AND ANCHOR of the Marines because they take the same risks.
Yeah but in the sandbox all of us medical people were issued sidearms. It's not like hajji honors the red cross or the geneva convention.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:02:04am |
re: #85 Nevergiveup
I notice CNN fails to tells us what was hit in the orange grove (almost certainly a rocket launcher. ) Also notice the second explosion is a few blocks away but by the time they get there it's completely dark. I'd guess it took them at least an hour to go several blocks.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:02:21am |
re: #92 Silhouette
File under: They're not sure who they hate, but they sure hate
Because he is mad at Israel over the Gaza action,
he protests the US,
in front of the Swiss Embassy,
in Iran.
I get them protesting the USA because of Israel since we are Allies, and I get the Swiss thing since they probably handle our affairs in Iran. But I don't get them burning Obama's picture? I mean if our enemies play their cards right......
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Dianna Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:02:22am |
I keep getting lost in "the server is taking too long to respond" world.
Is there a reason for this? Is anyone else encountering this?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:02:26am |
re: #103 subsailor68
Ah yes, "The Bonfires of the Inanities"
Word is, someone's planning a re-make of "Is Paris Burning"
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:02:27am |
re: #110 Spider Mensch
the only car to come with factory installed rust.
Oh my, you just reminded me of the 'undercoating' scene from Fargo.
:-)
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Wendya Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:02:47am |
re: #92 Silhouette
File under: They're not sure who they hate, but they sure hate
Because he is mad at Israel over the Gaza action,
he protests the US,
in front of the Swiss Embassy,
in Iran.
It makes about as much sense as anything else they do.
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baconeatingkaffir Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:02:47am |
re: #107 Spare O'Lake
I suppose he meant to say "Dem Jews"./
Yeah. I'ms ure it is. Its also why he 's hosted dinnerjacket and allowd him to talk smack against israel and the us from here.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:02:56am |
re: #116 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Word is, someone's planning a re-make of "Is Paris Burning"
PIMF ... should have added a /sarc
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Jinx Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:02:57am |
re: #68 buzzsawmonkey
It is extremely ironic that, although we decry the vacuousness of the usual media people--their pretty faces, often enhanced with surgery or botox, their careful coifs, their bland delivery--we still find ourselves more than ready to jump on someone, whether journalist or politician, who does not fulfill these superficial "qualifications."
Well, personally I don't want to see Joe with a boob job, so is that okay? ;)
An excellent note. Personally, I don't care how someone looks. But when someone speaks there is an expectation they be able to articulate. Every time someone says "uh" "uhm", etc. They are taking a second away from the message, they are also rendering the message incoherent as it does break up the speech. But as I said earlier, all he needs is a little polishing (not his head, though) and his speech will improve. This just takes a little practice to know what questions you want to ask. Once he gains that level of confidence I'm sure the imperfections will be smoothed out.
I honestly wish him the best of luck. I want to see him succeed.
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opnion Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:03:22am |
re: #90 subsailor68
Which you may then drive to pick up a Le Royale with Cheese.
:-)
'Damn Jimmy, this some good coffee. Where'd you git this coffee, this some gourmet shit"
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DaddyG Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:03:56am |
re: #114 Nevergiveup
...I don't get them burning Obama's picture? I mean if our enemies play their cards right......
Never overestimate the intelligence of seething stupidity.
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alegrias Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:03:57am |
re: #105 blue_like_jazz
so i love that he is the "average joe" (pun intended) who is sticking it to the media but i'm somehow not to be irritated with all of the "uh's"... i'm not supposed to say that i'm irritated because it's somehow taking away from what he's accomplishing?
okay.
* * *
Blue Like Jazz--your nic isn't grammatically correct. It's irritating and takes away from what you're saying.
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:03:58am |
re: #116 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Word is, someone's planning a re-make of "Is Paris Burning"
Well, since it would be about "yutes", I sure hope they consider Joe Pesci.
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baconeatingkaffir Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:04:17am |
re: #121 Jinx
Well, personally I don't want to see Joe with a boob job, so is that okay? ;)
An excellent note. Personally, I don't care how someone looks. But when someone speaks there is an expectation they be able to articulate. Every time someone says "uh" "uhm", etc. They are taking a second away from the message, they are also rendering the message incoherent as it does break up the speech. But as I said earlier, all he needs is a little polishing (not his head, though) and his speech will improve. This just takes a little practice to know what questions you want to ask. Once he gains that level of confidence I'm sure the imperfections will be smoothed out.
I honestly wish him the best of luck. I want to see him succeed.
I agree. We need to see more working class people in the media instead of dried up fratboys .
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doppelganglander Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:04:23am |
re: #92 Silhouette
File under: They're not sure who they hate, but they sure hate
Because he is mad at Israel over the Gaza action,
he protests the US,
in front of the Swiss Embassy,
in Iran.
It's globalization!
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:04:44am |
re: #112 baconeatingkaffir
Yeah but in the sandbox all of us medical people were issued sidearms. It's not like hajji honors the red cross or the geneva convention.
I sure hope so. If I get sent over I sure want one. Not that I'll probably ever need to use it, but as amazing as it is I hear some sailors and Marines don't like us Dentists?
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Wendya Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:04:55am |
re: #105 blue_like_jazz
so i love that he is the "average joe" (pun intended) who is sticking it to the media but i'm somehow not to be irritated with all of the "uh's"... i'm not supposed to say that i'm irritated because it's somehow taking away from what he's accomplishing?
okay.
I guess my impression is that you are expecting professional results from someone who wasn't coached in public speaking.
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alegrias Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:05:26am |
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Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:05:27am |
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jcbunga Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:05:58am |
After what's passed for media ever since Reagan banned them from the Grenada invasion, my buddy Joe has plenty of wiggle room to get up to speed.
He can't suck badly enough to compare badly with the MSM.
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WriterMom Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:05am |
re: #129 buzzsawmonkey
He will definitely grow with the job. The umms are a minor, tollerable distraction from his mostly excellent delivery and pretty sophisticated analysis.
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lawhawk Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:25am |
re: #96 buzzsawmonkey
"Le Car"--straight up, or on the rocks?
I believe it's flambee, with a side order of rocks.
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:38am |
re: #135 buzzsawmonkey
It's frightening how many sexual encounters that reminds me of.
Well, I hear the Sony Viagra is a pretty fine little machine.
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WriterMom Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:50am |
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Kenneth Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:56am |
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Spider Mensch Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:07:19am |
re: #117 subsailor68
Oh my, you just reminded me of the 'undercoating' scene from Fargo.
:-)
"You're a uh, uh...F*cking liar Mr Lundegaard!"
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subsailor68 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:07:54am |
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WriterMom Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:07:56am |
re: #141 Kenneth
LOL.
How about this: Europe has not learned from its bloody history vis a vis the Jews, and in that respect is doomed and irredeemable.
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alegrias Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:08:20am |
re: #129 buzzsawmonkey
No, I agree with you--the "uhs" and the "you knows" irritate me too.
I hope he grows past them. In the meantime, I hope that he will be seen by enough people who are less annoyed by these widespread verbal tics, who will listen to what he has to say.
* * *
Caroline Kennedy's 300+ "uhs" and "you knows" were good enough for the NYT, New York's Governor, and people of NY! And she went to Harvard for her, uh, degree, you know.
It's the record of public service that counts!
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experiencedtraveller Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:08:29am |
re: #77 pre-Boomer Marine brat
The French automobile insurance industry must have applied pressure on the government to get that done.
While Peugeot and Renault were firmly opposed...
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Dianna Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:08:33am |
re: #135 buzzsawmonkey
It's frightening how many sexual encounters that reminds me of.
Ah...positive memories, I hope?
As in, "There are one candle nights, and two candle nights; then there are nights where one does not count the candles."
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baconeatingkaffir Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:10:47am |
re: #131 Nevergiveup
I sure hope so. If I get sent over I sure want one. Not that I'll probably ever need to use it, but as amazing as it is I hear some sailors and Marines don't like us Dentists?
Heh. When I was stationd in Germany in the early 90s we had a Wing Commander who was a bit gung ho and used to tell us to "suck it up" when we were ın saudi. Anyhow, afriend of mine who was a dental tech gave him a shot of saline instead of novocaine when he came in to get a filling done. All the "show backbone" and "stick it out" bullshit came back to haunt him when he started moaning from the chair. Eventually, my friend did have mercy and gave him a shot. Moral to this story: even if you're a lowly enlisted man you can still make a difference! hehehehe.
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Age Of Freedom Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:11:23am |
Joe,
Today I would have voted "YOU FUCKING ROCK" if Charles made that as an option in a poll.
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yma o hyd Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:11:35am |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Here's the CNN piece.....
Medics live dangerously in Gaza
Ahem.
I don't want to be cruel - but did any of the people in this video actually look as if they've been starving for the last three years?
As for the rest - come off it, CNN, thats no breaking news, thats a human 'sob' story.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:13:27am |
re: #150 baconeatingkaffir
Heh. When I was stationd in Germany in the early 90s we had a Wing Commander who was a bit gung ho and used to tell us to "suck it up" when we were ın saudi. Anyhow, afriend of mine who was a dental tech gave him a shot of saline instead of novocaine when he came in to get a filling done. All the "show backbone" and "stick it out" bullshit came back to haunt him when he started moaning from the chair. Eventually, my friend did have mercy and gave him a shot. Moral to this story: even if you're a lowly enlisted man you can still make a difference! hehehehe.
Well the Dentist still should of known what he was injecting. Maybe he hated the CO also.
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Right mind left Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:15:47am |
AND if I can add my two cents (I see I am late4, there is another topic!) BUT this guy has to be given lots of credit for being fast on his feet.
Most journalists have teleprompters and other cues that are more sophisticated than leading questions that he had in this interview. He is thrown into a totally foreign place, with tons going on.
I LOVED how he dealt with that other reporter on the most fundamental of issues. What do the Israelis do for people, even in land they give up to others, and what does Hamas do with it - who creates and who destroys?
I am so thrilled he's there and reporting what he sees. Waiting for his next report!
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baconeatingkaffir Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:16:10am |
re: #153 Nevergiveup
Yeah we used to accuse those two of being cohorts in that one. Of cousre they both denied it.
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Age Of Freedom Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:18:05am |
I seriously salute Joe.
He totally rocks. Brutally rocks.
He is totally overwhelmed with the injustice done to Israel, it's amazing.
I mean, look how he's shutting out the foreign media, they totally stink.
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ThinkRight Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:22:50am |
It would serve the MSM right if he won a Pulitzer
LOL
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MJBrutus Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:24:55am |
Alright, I have to admit that JTP is winning me over. He's growing on me because of the way he places in perspective what conditions are like there by pointing out how intolerable it would be for Americans to have to live like the Israelis do in these conditions.
For example when he talks about how, as a parent, he considers it absurd to have to teach his children to duck in to the cement playground caterpillar for safety from rocket attacks. We would not put up with it, and hopefully Americans who see that will agree that they wouldn't put up with it and demand our government to respond with overwhelming force to end such threats.
I wouldn't want Joe's opinions on how to negotiate a peace or what to do about the Israeli settlements, etc, but I do welcome his comments about peoples' day to day lives during this conflict.
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Kenneth Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:26:07am |
re: #144 WriterMom
Europe has traded Jews for Jihadis.
Good luck with that Jean, Juan, Johann and Jack.
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HippieforLife Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:27:58am |
At least Joe comes across as actually caring and real, unlike the O who uses just as many uh's and he (will be) the president.
Without a teleprompter the O is anything but articulate!
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Joan Not of Arc Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:42:22am |
For an untrained reporter, he is far more informative and insightful than anyone from CNN or CBC.
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babes Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:49:48am |
re: #164 Joan Not of Arc
For an untrained reporter, he is far more informative and insightful than anyone from CNN or CBC.
I agree. The media needs more regular Joes and Janes reporting. What Joe is saying and how he is saying it tells worlds about the people there and how they live every day. Bravo Joe and Pajamas Media!
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michaelasher Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:55:21am |
Loved the way Joe made the German reporter squirm. We need to see more of that.
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Steve Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:26:07pm |
re: #6 redc1c4
biased reproting! he's not a REAL journalist!1!
/white smoke
You probably think that Dan Blather is real reporter. Or should I say "reproter"
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2by2 Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:27:39pm |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
Here's the CNN piece.....
Medics live dangerously in Gaza
they just got all brand new uniforms for their cnn propaganda piece.
I doubt that these guys are even medics; curious about the guy who just prepares for a nap, when the sound of an explosion keeps him up, rushing out to the ambulance in broad daylight and discussing whether they should go out (they lost an ambulance doing that already), cut next shot it's NIGHT, then they go out.......
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WriterMom Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:31:26pm |
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Promethea Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:32:21pm |
re: #159 buzzsawmonkey
I think that we are at the point where unconsciously masculine behavior or mannerisms--unselfconscious and unapologetic--appears almost aberrant.
I'm not talking about bravado, overweening machismo, or braggadocio; I'm talking about someone who, like John Wayne or Robert Mitchum or Bogart at his best merely were who they were without fifteen-seconds spotchecks and second-guesses for "sensitivity."
Joe appears to have that quality, to some degree. And it is that, I believe, that people respond to.
I absolutely agree. The metrosexuals have taken over the TV. It is so refreshing to a normal man, like Joe, giving a report, especially one that makes sense and is visually interesting as well.
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Sunlight Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:33:56pm |
re: #13 buzzsawmonkey
Au contraire--looks like Joe's a sixty-minute man.
I'll tell you... I'm wanting the Israeli bloggers to engage with this guy... He can interview others and get the attention. It's going to take teamwork to get ANY reality to mainstream U.S. and EU people.
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mattm Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:34:01pm |
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Steve Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:39:54pm |
re: #14 Desert Dog
That's what I notice too. He is articulate enough, but that "uh" every few seconds grates a little
This guy has never gone through a journalism/communications class. The 'uhs' are very common for newbies.
I used to sit in a speech class where the instructor would drom marbles into an empty coffee can when we did 'uhs', 'ands, and any other stutter. you learned real fast to watch what you are saying.
Dispite Joes 'uhs' I find it very refreshing to listen to his perspective.
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mattm Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:43:51pm |
re: #168 2by2
they just got all brand new uniforms for their cnn propaganda piece.
I doubt that these guys are even medics; curious about the guy who just prepares for a nap, when the sound of an explosion keeps him up, rushing out to the ambulance in broad daylight and discussing whether they should go out (they lost an ambulance doing that already), cut next shot it's NIGHT, then they go out.......
It's CNN what do you expect.
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notutopia Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:49:50pm |
Joe, Samuel, is a civilian.
He's in Israel as a civilian.
He's reporting as a civilian.
Each one of us, even if we're military, are still a civilian.
Joe is seeking in Israel the perspective of...
What is it like to be a civilian in Israel, fighting a war against an enemy, Hamas, that has sought to destroy Israel.
He is bringing and reporting his feelings as a temporary civilian in Israel, who is an American. We share the same philosophy of democracy in the USA as in Israel.
No, he's not a great journalist, but he is doing a great job as a civilian reporter.
Keep the reports and vids coming Samuel, and stay safe!
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buzzdroid Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:56:37pm |
gazacam on again. flares only. no gunfire. very quiet for a change.
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buzzdroid Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:58:41pm |
gazacam: 2 F-16s just flew over head.
yet another big flare in the sky..
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Joseph Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:19:42pm |
Therein lies the rub. Snake oil sells.
Which is why we end up with the leaders we deserve!
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Mambo Bananapatch Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:29:07pm |
Can't blame anyone for trying to parlay their 15 minutes into a celebrity career, but it sure is boring.
Go away, Joe.
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Joseph Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:38:25pm |
Mambo: let us know when your 15-minutes arrive, willya?
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zelnaga Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:23:36pm |
I think some of the reason there may be some disdain for Joe the Plumber is jealousy. "If Joe the Plumber is supposed to be just like me", some people are no doubt thinking, "why is it that it's him - and not me - who's in receipt of all this media attention?"
These same people likely don't get mad at traditional journalists, with their Yale or Harvard education, or whatever, because traditional journalists aren't like them, anyway. You can dismiss a traditional journalists success because they do come from families affluent enough to send them to Ivy league schools, but you can't do that for Joe the Plumber.
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Bogeyfre Tue, Jan 13, 2009 3:30:57pm |
Joe is doing just fine. Effective communication skills are not something we are born with, it must be learned. Hopefully someone is coaching him to help him get better. Other than his interviewing and reporting skills needing improvement don't change a thing Joe. Stay as "normal" as you are.
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drool Tue, Jan 13, 2009 3:48:35pm |
Considering J.T. Plumber thinks the media shouldn't be reporting from war zones, he sure is doing a lot of it.
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cherryblossoms Tue, Jan 13, 2009 4:48:16pm |
I think Joe did well things considered. I appreciate his insight! :) I hope to hear more of his reports in the future!
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jamie Tue, Jan 13, 2009 7:09:32pm |
re: #182 zelnaga
I think some of the reason there may be some disdain for Joe the Plumber is jealousy. "If Joe the Plumber is supposed to be just like me", some people are no doubt thinking, "why is it that it's him - and not me - who's in receipt of all this media attention?"
Or maybe, as in my opinion, he's just not up to the job.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of citizen journalism and of having an "everyman" on the ground to offer a unique filter, but as much as I like the concept, I thought Joe stunk.
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Joetheplumber Tue, Jan 13, 2009 10:40:55pm |
I just love Joe the plumber (and, no its not because I have the same moniker on LGF as him) and think he is extremely courageous to do what he is doing, i.e. standing up for Israel when all the other MSM keeps dumping sh.. on it. Many of us dream of doing what he is doing... but few of us actually have the guts and gumptions to follow up on these dreams. As for Joe's unpolished news reports, all I can say is that I prefer them anyday to the erudite garbage that the rest of the MSM regularly spews out. I loved the way he turned the tables in the interview by the dhimmi European reporter.
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Mambo Bananapatch Wed, Jan 14, 2009 6:34:33am |
re: #180 Joseph
Mambo: let us know when your 15-minutes arrive, willya?
It already happened. About 15 years ago, by freak chance, I got to play bass at a large private party with Alex Lifeson and Neil Peart of Rush fame. We played La Villa Strangiato and YYZ. For the rest of the night I was a bona fide rock star. That was it. Whew! I still get shivers thinking about that.
I'm glad I didn't try to pretend I was a real rock star...that would have been banal and embarrassing.
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zelnaga Wed, Jan 14, 2009 8:10:54am |
re: #187 Joetheplumber
I just love Joe the plumber (and, no its not because I have the same moniker on LGF as him) and think he is extremely courageous to do what he is doing, i.e. standing up for Israel when all the other MSM keeps dumping sh.. on it. Many of us dream of doing what he is doing... but few of us actually have the guts and gumptions to follow up on these dreams.
You can have all the guts and gumptions in the world and it won't matter unless you also have the opportunity. Joe the plumber was very fortunate to be living in a swing state and to be, just coincidentally, playing football with his son while Obama was in his neighborhood. If you don't live in a swing state, however, you'll likely never have a major presidential candidate in your neighborhood. Ever. And, I think, ultimately, all of Joe the plumber's recent success can be traced back to that one event. If it weren't for that, he wouldn't have been featured on a bunch of TV networks and I doubt he'd be in Israel, now.
Personally, I don't think I have the guts or gumptions to ask a presidential candidate what Joe did of Obama, but even if I did, it wouldn't matter, as I doubt I'd ever be in that kind of a position, anyway.
Incidentally, when do we stop calling him Joe the plumber and when do we start calling him Joe the journalist, or whatever?
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