A Wing and a Prayer
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LGF reader “Leonidas Hoplite” forwarded a picture taken this afternoon with a cell phone camera by a passenger on the NYC-NJ ferry:
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notutopia Thu, Jan 15, 2009 3:56:51pm |
This pilot needs to be canonized as a living Saint.
These passengers are so fortunate to be alive.
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 15, 2009 3:57:41pm |
re: #3 notutopia
This pilot needs to be canonized as a living Saint.
These passengers are so fortunate to be alive.
Don't forget the tug boats and ferrys
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 15, 2009 3:58:49pm |
Even a round of kudos to the passengers. They look so calm.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 15, 2009 3:59:08pm |
re: #6 Cathypop
Don't forget the tug boats and ferrys
Tugboats and ferries aren't much help if the aircraft and its contents are spread in little pieces over a large area.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 15, 2009 3:59:28pm |
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ArmyWife Thu, Jan 15, 2009 3:59:39pm |
Thank goodness those passengers got out alive. Kudos to the pilots, crew, emergency workers and passengers who helped with the rescue effort.
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 3:59:47pm |
Wow.
Its amazing, I get a sense of calm from this photo.
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 15, 2009 3:59:50pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:00:04pm |
I can't imagine standing in water on a jet's wing.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:00:26pm |
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:00:31pm |
re: #16 wrenchwench
I can't imagine standing in water on a jet's wing.
Its also very cold out today!
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rightymouse Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:00:32pm |
Am so grateful that everyone was saved. Most excellent.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:00:36pm |
re: #14 Cathypop
How would you like to be standing on the wing in that cold weather?
Damn happy to be alive!
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:00:44pm |
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DaChew Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:00:47pm |
Honestly, some people will do anything to avoid paying the bridge/tunnel toll.
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chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:00:54pm |
That picture reminds me of some '70's airplane disaster flick (airport '77?) I saw as a kid. A 747 crashes in the ocean and sinks. The plane is intact with survivors onboard and it gets lifted up to the surface again.
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FrogMarch Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:01:08pm |
I guess better to land in water than a heavy populated area. It will be interesting to hear what the heck happened.
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greggriffith Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:01:08pm |
I don't see anybody making use of the seat as a flotation device. What's up with that?
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:01:24pm |
re: #14 Cathypop
How would you like to be standing on the wing in that cold weather?
I'd be thinking given the circumstance, my feet being wet and cold was a damn fine thing.
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:01:25pm |
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:01:38pm |
re: #7 Silhouette
Even a round of kudos to the passengers. They look so calm.
i bet they are just stunned to be where they are.
and deeply thankful.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:01:54pm |
Once again, Captain's name is Chesley Sullenberg. Worked for US Airways for 28 years, and our government before that.
I'm tired of only hearing the names of the creeps.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:02:10pm |
re: #3 notutopia
This pilot needs to be canonized as a living Saint.
These passengers are so fortunate to be alive.
The whole crew does. No one seriously injured or killed means the whole crew did their jobs.
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Moonbattery Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:02:15pm |
I wonder how many law suits will be filed by morning.
Thank goodness for a level-headed experience pilot and flight crew. The news reports a few minutes ago said that the pilot personally walked the craft twice to ensure all of the passengers were off of the plane.
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who is john galt Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:02:34pm |
The next time I fly, I want that flight crew!
Airline pilots can't make enough for what they do everyday.
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:02:37pm |
re: #24 FrogMarch
If they had come down on land, there would have been no survivors...
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:02:37pm |
re: #11 Killian Bundy
Amazing that he had enough lift to make it back to the water. Totally different, and tragic outcome if he doesn't. I think God was his co-pilot....
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:02:47pm |
re: #23 chicagodudewhotrades
That picture reminds me of some '70's airplane disaster flick (airport '77?) I saw as a kid. A 747 crashes in the ocean and sinks. The plane is intact with survivors onboard and it gets lifted up to the surface again.
One of the silly ass Airport movies. The original Airport was a good book and okay movie, the rest of 'em silly stuff.
Now Airplane! That was classic.
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:02:54pm |
re: #32 Moonbattery
I wonder how many law suits will be filed by morning.
Thank goodness for a level-headed experience pilot and flight crew. The news reports a few minutes ago said that the pilot personally walked the craft twice to ensure all of the passengers were off of the plane.
Very few
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:03:04pm |
For all the shit New Yorkers get, they always seem to rush in to help when their city needs them. Bravo to all the captains.
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:03:23pm |
re: #39 Sharmuta
For all the shit New Yorkers get, they always seem to rush in to help when their city needs them. Bravo to all the captains.
I agree
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:03:52pm |
re: #33 who is john galt
My best mate is an A-320 Captain. He says he flys for free, they pay him to stay on the ground.
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:04:34pm |
re: #39 Sharmuta
For all the shit New Yorkers get, they always seem to rush in to help when their city needs them. Bravo to all the captains.
The first responders here are the best. They deserve a lot of credit.
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Muadib Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:04:43pm |
Impressive save of a very bad situation. Good job, Captain and crew.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:05:10pm |
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:05:41pm |
File under: They aren't having a good week. Or they are!
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Bank of America Corp. and Wells Fargo & Co. say a number of employees of the banks were on board a US Airways plane that crashed into New York's Hudson River.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:06:05pm |
re: #30 EmmmieG
Once again, Captain's name is Chesley Sullenberg. Worked for US Airways for 28 years, and our government before that.
I'm tired of only hearing the names of the creeps.
That's a mental palate cleanser after Said Siam.
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:06:40pm |
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:07:06pm |
That's a good photo for a cell phone. I didn't realize they had such resolution.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:07:18pm |
Just waiting now for the detailed explanation from the Troofers of how this was all an inside job.
/The plane was towed there, the passengers all work for the government, the photos are faked, and it was impossible by the laws of physics (as understood by them) for any of this to have happened.
waiting, waiting...
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bulwrk Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:07:31pm |
Chalk another one up for U.S. Airways great pilots and good security(telling the flying imams to FOAD).I don't fly much but I will use them when I do.
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FlakMusic Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:07:33pm |
I've always had to stifle laughter whenever I heard "in the event of a water landing" during the safety presentation. Not anymore.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:08:03pm |
re: #49 NoSubmission
That's a good photo for a cell phone. I didn't realize they had such resolution.
I've managed to get a couple of pretty decent pics on my cell phone- you'd be surprised what they can do.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:08:53pm |
re: #50 EmmmieG
Just waiting now for the detailed explanation from the Troofers of how this was all an inside job.
/The plane was towed there, the passengers all work for the government, the photos are faked, and it was impossible by the laws of physics (as understood by them) for any of this to have happened.
waiting, waiting...
Yeah. The last despicable act of GW.
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jcbunga Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:09:13pm |
Here's Captain Sullenberg--
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
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FrogMarch Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:09:22pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:09:25pm |
re: #53 FlakMusic
I've always had to stifle laughter whenever I heard "in the event of a water landing" during the safety presentation. Not anymore.
So did the flight crew when I was going from El Paso to Las Vegas. They still had to tell us about the seat cushions...
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:09:41pm |
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Empire1 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:10:11pm |
re: #11 Killian Bundy
Gods! That flight path tells you just exactly how good that pilot was, to avoid crashing into a heavily populated area AND save all his crew and passenders.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:10:16pm |
What were the odds of such a wonderful result?
To my untrained eye the chances were absolutely astronomical.
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:10:17pm |
Drive by post - My Dentist and his daughter were on that flight (or were supposed to be); daughter is 18 years old.
Hope I get the chance to see you all down the road.
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:10:27pm |
re: #44 Soona'
It all had to have happened extremely fast. Bet they haven't had time to even think through the event yet.
i bet they have had time to realize they are not going to die in the freezing water.
that needs very little thinking thru. imagine the sense of relief.
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FlakMusic Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:10:41pm |
re: #59 wrenchwench
So did the flight crew when I was going from El Paso to Las Vegas. They still had to tell us about the seat cushions...
Well, there's a slim chance you might have to ditch in one of Wayne Newton's swimming pools...
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:11:24pm |
re: #54 FrogMarch
The money quote:
He worked the whole room, made a full circuit, bantered up a storm. He posed for only one picture, with an electrician Don said was the longest-serving employee in the building. At one point, Obama saw a pregnant staffer."When are you due?" Obama said.
"Next week," she said.
"I hear Barack is a good name," he said.
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:11:32pm |
re: #57 jcbunga
Here's Captain Sullenberg--
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
Another argument to rethink the mandatory retire age for pilots. Experience counts.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:11:40pm |
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:11:58pm |
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rightymouse Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:11:59pm |
How will they get the plane out of the water?
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FlakMusic Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:12:55pm |
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:13:00pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:13:02pm |
re: #57 jcbunga
Here's Captain Sullenberg--
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
I'll bet his co-pilot was saying " Do some of that pilot shit, Mav".......
:)
Actually, like I said earlier.....God was his co-pilot.
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jorline Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:13:02pm |
A Hero was born this afternoon.
Chelsey B. "Sully" Sullenberger, pilot of US Airways flight 1539.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:13:04pm |
re: #32 Moonbattery
I wonder how many law suits will be filed by morning.
Thank goodness for a level-headed experience pilot and flight crew. The news reports a few minutes ago said that the pilot personally walked the craft twice to ensure all of the passengers were off of the plane.
What kind of lawyer would sue a flock of Geese?
Oh! Yeah.....Nevermind!
/
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CapeCoddah Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:13:19pm |
Hey everyone, Found some info on the pilot from todays river landing. Hell of a guy. Surprise, he is a retired F4 pilot.
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:13:37pm |
re: #67 NoSubmission
Boy, if that don't give you some insight into the mass of egoism and fraud that is the man's psyche, I don't know what would.
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:14:02pm |
re: #75 jorline
A Hero was born this afternoon.
Chelsey B. "Sully" Sullenberger, pilot of US Airways flight 1539.
Taht's Chesley
/
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Soona' Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:14:02pm |
re: #62 Spare O'Lake
What were the odds of such a wonderful result?
To my untrained eye the chances were absolutely astronomical.
Watch. The moonbats will attribute it all to the power of the zero.
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rightymouse Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:14:11pm |
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:14:24pm |
Sullenberger, who now must be considered the front runner to replace Hillary Clinton as New York's junior United States Senator
heh
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:14:26pm |
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jorline Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:15:08pm |
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gregg Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:15:13pm |
I just got in so I haven't had a chance to read the details of the crash, but I was wondering how deep the water is at the point where the plane came to a rest? Why hasn't it sunk? I apologize if those are stupid questions...
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:15:33pm |
re: #71 rightymouse
Hi righty - good question!
Wonder where I could get passenger manifest - nes down here said 30 of the passengers were headed to Charlotte.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:15:38pm |
So, Sullenberger, eh? and no Jews killed in the crash, either!
I smell a false flag op for sure. (or is that roast goose?)
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:15:41pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:15:43pm |
Oops. My bad. His name is Sullenberger.
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:15:52pm |
Pilots are a different breed from the rest of us.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:16:05pm |
A big "way to go" to the pilot.
Heros still exist.
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captwfcall Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:16:06pm |
this pilot needs to be taken care of.
i'm talking no tax payments for the rest of his life ala 'Armageddon'.
he just saved 150+ lives. and that ain't all luck. that is one highly skilled hero.
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:17:08pm |
re: #95 captwfcall
this pilot needs to be taken care of.
i'm talking no tax payments for the rest of his life ala 'Armageddon'.
he just saved 150+ lives. and that ain't all luck. that is one highly skilled hero.
Hell, he saved more lives than that. Could you imagine if he hadn't ditched in water? Not a lot of empty space where he was.
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Ojoe Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:17:19pm |
re: #95 captwfcall
THERE you see the human in control, making calls that a computer can never make.
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:17:35pm |
re: #90 Guanxi88
So, Sullenberger, eh? and no Jews killed in the crash, either!
I smell a false flag op for sure. (or is that roast goose?)
Chopped and roasted.
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:17:44pm |
re: #78 Guanxi88
Boy, if that don't give you some insight into the mass of egoism and fraud that is the man's psyche, I don't know what would.
Yes. It says it all. I can just picture that smug look on his face.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:17:51pm |
This pilot is worth more than what US Airways paid! Honestly, I never complain when Pilots want to protect their salaries... I'm willing to pay well for someone who has my life in their hands.
BTW, the image posted is kind of impressive, in a Lomographic sort of way. I don't know if it was edited before being distributed (e.g., the horizon the is level), but there is much to like about it.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:18:25pm |
Follow the money back to Bush and Haliburton...
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FlakMusic Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:18:36pm |
re: #81 rightymouse
Seriously.
Uneducated guess: they float it and tow it to some docks where it can be lifted out with a crane.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:18:45pm |
With a name like Chesley B. Sully Sullenberger, III, I hope that if they name a street after him, they don't go the MLK route and use the full name: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard.
Maybe just Sullenberger Drive.
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:18:48pm |
Modern aircraft are brilliant works of design, safety and technology.
The guys and girls who fly them are 100% up to the challenge.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:18:57pm |
re: #57 jcbunga
Here's Captain Sullenberg--
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
Did you see the very last item on his resume?
Visiting Scholar, University of California, Berkeley, Center for Catastrophic Risk Management
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rightymouse Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:19:01pm |
re: #89 realwest
re: #71 rightymouse
Hi righty - good question!
Wonder where I could get passenger manifest - nes down here said 30 of the passengers were headed to Charlotte.
I'm not sure if they have the passenger list posted since everyone survived. I heard the CEO of US Airways say that relatives should call them if they think a member of their family was on the flight.
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captwfcall Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:19:12pm |
re: #97 Guanxi88
Hell, he saved more lives than that. Could you imagine if he hadn't ditched in water? Not a lot of empty space where he was.
agreed. it's just amazing. missed the buildings, missed the bridge..and perfectly landed that plane without the wings clipping the water? ..simply amazing. He just performed a miracle.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:19:32pm |
re: #107 wrenchwench
Yes, at Berkeley. But we won't hold that against him.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:20:02pm |
re: #98 Ojoe
True that!
Been watching Destroyed in Seconds....
Most solo Military Air crashes are due to computer failure and lack of over ride..The Mig-29 comes to mind!
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Ojoe Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:20:15pm |
re: #67 NoSubmission
"I hear Barack is a good name," he said.
How.
Very.
Sad.
Obama needs to listen to the monk on the latter part of this video.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:20:16pm |
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:20:28pm |
That photo was posted here a while ago.
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Wendya Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:20:40pm |
re: #30 EmmmieG
Once again, Captain's name is Chesley Sullenberg. Worked for US Airways for 28 years, and our government before that.
I'm tired of only hearing the names of the creeps.
Smoking Gun has a profile on him:
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:21:11pm |
re: #113 MandyManners
CBBHO will levitate it.
Mandy,
I get the BHO part, what does the CB stand for?
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:21:29pm |
re: #110 Silhouette
Yes, at Berkeley. But we won't hold that against him.
Wasn't the Berkeley part that caught my eye. The guy is a professional Risk Manager. Boy, did he prove it today!
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Lee Coller Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:21:29pm |
re: #77 CapeCoddah
Hey everyone, Found some info on the pilot from todays river landing. Hell of a guy. Surprise, he is a retired F4 pilot.
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
Notice (on the resume) that he has a Glider rating as well.
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:21:31pm |
re: #114 JammieWearingFool
I'm going to ALWAYS carry my camera with me, from now on.....
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:21:45pm |
Hooray for Paliwood....
Raw Video :Palestinian Journalist Collapses From Car Outside Gaza Hospital.
Although he collapses he still holds onto his cell phone. The guy with the head wound walks in on his own. The reporter's only injury appears to be on his arm but it's not bleeding badly. He just wanted to put on a show for his fellow reporters.
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:22:09pm |
OT:
This is good.
Artist creates the perfect representation of the EU
The piece, an enormous mosaic installed in the European Council building over the weekend, was meant to symbolize the glory of a unified Europe by reflecting something special about each country in the European Union.But wait. Here is Bulgaria, represented as a series of crude, hole-in-the-floor toilets. Here is the Netherlands, subsumed by floods, with only a few minarets peeping out from the water. Luxembourg is depicted as a tiny lump of gold marked by a “for sale” sign, while five Lithuanian soldiers are apparently urinating on Russia.
France? On strike.
The 172-square-foot, eight-ton installation, titled “Entropa,” consists of a sort of puzzle formed by the geographical shapes of European countries. It was proudly commissioned by the Czech Republic to mark the start of its six-month presidency of the European Union. But the Czechs made the mistake of hiring the artist David Cerny to put together the project.
My favorite is the Netherlands
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:22:52pm |
re: #118 Lee Coller
A pilot's pilot. He can handle an A-320 and a glider. Real seat of the pants pilot. The best type.
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rightymouse Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:23:01pm |
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Taqyia2Me Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:23:05pm |
re: #120 Killgore Trout
Hooray for Paliwood....
Raw Video :Palestinian Journalist Collapses From Car Outside Gaza Hospital.Although he collapses he still holds onto his cell phone. The guy with the head wound walks in on his own. The reporter's only injury appears to be on his arm but it's not bleeding badly. He just wanted to put on a show for his fellow reporters.
Frick 'em all!
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livfreeordie Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:23:27pm |
Coming In On a Wing and A Prayer
World War II hit song, here is Eddie Cantor...
[Link: www.archive.org...]
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:23:32pm |
re: #120 Killgore Trout
Hooray for Paliwood....
Raw Video :Palestinian Journalist Collapses From Car Outside Gaza Hospital.
[Video]Although he collapses he still holds onto his cell phone. The guy with the head wound walks in on his own. The reporter's only injury appears to be on his arm but it's not bleeding badly. He just wanted to put on a show for his fellow reporters.
Everybody wants to get into the act!
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Ojoe Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:24:19pm |
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ayrdale Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:24:33pm |
Looks like a cool professional job from the aircrew, and no panic from the passengers - I'll bet there were heroes among them too. looking after others...
Great news !
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:24:34pm |
Does the pilot own an exercise club?
--Shape Xpress Fitness for Women, Peak Enterprises Inc., (a California corporation), Chesley Sullenberger III., 230-A Alamo Plaza.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:24:55pm |
re: #127 Guanxi88
Heh. He even even has the presence of mind to stash his cell phone beneath his head as they put him on the stretcher.
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mdaspinall Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:24:59pm |
re: #33 who is john galt
The next time I fly, I want that flight crew!
Airline pilots can't make enough for what they do everyday.
its gonna be one big plane with ALL of us proud to be on it..
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:25:05pm |
re: #120 Killgore Trout
Hooray for Paliwood....
Raw Video :Palestinian Journalist Collapses From Car Outside Gaza Hospital.
Although he collapses he still holds onto his cell phone. The guy with the head wound walks in on his own. The reporter's only injury appears to be on his arm but it's not bleeding badly. He just wanted to put on a show for his fellow reporters.
Carsick. Poor bastard.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:25:06pm |
re: #122 WhiteRasta
A pilot's pilot. He can handle an A-320 and a glider. Real seat of the pants pilot. The best type.
And a float-plane, it would seem. ;-)
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JammieWearingFool Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:25:40pm |
I really have to give props to Chesley Sullenberger for bringing that down where he did. If he tried to get to Teterboro and didn't make it we'd have had a calamity on our hands over here.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:25:55pm |
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Hobbes Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:26:07pm |
re: #12 ArmyWife
Thank goodness those passengers got out alive. Kudos to the pilots, crew, emergency workers and passengers who helped with the rescue effort.
Ditto. That pilot is something else! Mr. Hero!
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:26:07pm |
re: #99 jcm Hey JCM - when you get a chance please check your e-mail!
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albusteve Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:26:16pm |
re: #120 Killgore Trout
Hooray for Paliwood....
Raw Video :Palestinian Journalist Collapses From Car Outside Gaza Hospital.
[Video]Although he collapses he still holds onto his cell phone. The guy with the head wound walks in on his own. The reporter's only injury appears to be on his arm but it's not bleeding badly. He just wanted to put on a show for his fellow reporters.
targets...that's all
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:26:33pm |
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:26:33pm |
re: #132 Killgore Trout
Heh. He even even has the presence of mind to stash his cell phone beneath his head as they put him on the stretcher.
Gotta watch those pali-medics. Sticky fingers, you know.
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rightymouse Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:27:20pm |
re: #113 MandyManners
BTW - I left you a post on the previous thread about one of our illustrious Ohio Dem perps who just got nabbed.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:27:22pm |
re: #120 Killgore Trout
Hooray for Paliwood....
Raw Video :Palestinian Journalist Collapses From Car Outside Gaza Hospital.Although he collapses he still holds onto his cell phone. The guy with the head wound walks in on his own. The reporter's only injury appears to be on his arm but it's not bleeding badly. He just wanted to put on a show for his fellow reporters.
A reporter, huh? Probably drunk or high.
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Lee Coller Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:27:25pm |
re: #144 captwfcall
Remember, Charles doesn't allow email addresses
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:27:28pm |
re: #132 Killgore Trout
Heh. He even even has the presence of mind to stash his cell phone beneath his head as they put him on the stretcher.
I love how he waits until the door is open for a second before he falls. Like all his weight wouldn't have been on that door as it opened if he was really injured and collapsing.
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CIA Reject Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:27:44pm |
re: #136 JammieWearingFool
I really have to give props to Chesley Sullenberger for bringing that down where he did. If he tried to get to Teterboro and didn't make it we'd have had a calamity on our hands over here.
Despite the temptation to try to land at an airport he refused to try to stretch a glide.
Smart man.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:28:01pm |
re: #121 NoSubmission
OT:
This is good.
Artist creates the perfect representation of the EU
My favorite is the Netherlands
Islam is sinking them.
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captwfcall Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:28:19pm |
re: #145 Guanxi88
Well, if that's not the most fitting domain yet!
no doubt! i swear, i've never been so amazed with another human being in my life.
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stuiec Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:28:22pm |
re: #109 captwfcall
agreed. it's just amazing. missed the buildings, missed the bridge..and perfectly landed that plane without the wings clipping the water? ..simply amazing. He just performed a miracle.
I don't think he ever got enough altitude to make it across the river. That he missed any bridges and boats and put it down flat on the water is heroic enough in itself.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:28:24pm |
I found a SULLENBERGER, CHESLEY BURNETT that was born in Grayson County, Texas on 1 23 1951.
That would make him 57, with his birthday next Friday.
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:28:37pm |
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chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:28:47pm |
7,439 airplane bird strikes in 2007
fox is showing some stats related to this event
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CIA Reject Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:28:48pm |
re: #141 jcm
Drove Smokin' Thunder Hogs for the Air Force for 7 years.
I'd be willing to wager that today's was not the first birds he's hit...
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:29:50pm |
re: #157 CIA Reject
Bet he may have smoked a couple of MIG's in his career......
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:30:01pm |
His name indicates that he is the III, and as one would expect, two men with the same name are buried in the town where he was born.
I conclude, the man is a Texan.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:30:07pm |
re: #103 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Follow the money back to Bush and Haliburton...
The answer can be discovered in the frequent miles. Follow the mileage.
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:30:46pm |
re: #154 Silhouette
I found a SULLENBERGER, CHESLEY BURNETT that was born in Grayson County, Texas on 1 23 1951.
That would make him 57, with his birthday next Friday.
What are we getting him? Candlesticks make a nice gift. Maybe see where he's registered.
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CIA Reject Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:30:50pm |
re: #159 WhiteRasta
Bet he may have smoked a couple of MIG's in his career......
Or a couple of radar sites.
Wild Weasels are not easily rattled.
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gregg Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:30:57pm |
It's interesting that on Monday (1/12/09) the following was announced:
For the first time since the dawn of the jet age, two consecutive years have passed without a single airline passenger death on a U.S. carrier.
No passengers died in crashes in 2007 and 2008, a period in which 1.5 billion people took scheduled airline flights.
Going without a crash fatality for a full year has been rare.
Only four years since 1958 have passed without a passenger fatality, the analysis found. That makes the two-year string even more impressive, aviation safety experts say.
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Dave the..... Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:31:23pm |
What kind of lawyer would sue a flock of Geese?
Oh! Yeah.....Nevermind!
Just when you think lawyers couldn't sink any lower...the new thing is that if a tornado hits your house, you sue the person who built your house. And it works!
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:31:42pm |
re: #120 Killgore Trout
Hooray for Paliwood....
Raw Video :Palestinian Journalist Collapses From Car Outside Gaza Hospital.[Video]Although he collapses he still holds onto his cell phone. The guy with the head wound walks in on his own. The reporter's only injury appears to be on his arm but it's not bleeding badly. He just wanted to put on a show for his fellow reporters.
Compare the behavior of these freaking savages, gibbering like a horde of orcs, with the calm efficiency of the US Airways flight crew, NYPD, FDNY, Hatzolah, and ferry rescue operators that we saw on the Hudson River.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:31:49pm |
re: #154 Silhouette
I found a SULLENBERGER, CHESLEY BURNETT that was born in Grayson County, Texas on 1 23 1951.
That would make him 57, with his birthday next Friday.
Meaning he has 3 years left as an expert pilot before the FAA grounds his ass as "too old" to be of use.
Just another example of your government looking out for us.
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jetprop Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:31:51pm |
I'm glad everyone made it out ok. Kudos to the flight and cabin crew.
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:32:16pm |
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rightymouse Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:32:18pm |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:32:30pm |
re: #163 Bloodnok
What are we getting him? Candlesticks make a nice gift. Maybe see where he's registered.
How about a single malt? Candlesticks are so girly.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:32:32pm |
re: #161 debutaunt
The answer can be discovered in the frequent miles. Follow the mileage.
And they thought they could hide their tracks from us...
lol
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notutopia Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:33:07pm |
re: #121 NoSubmission
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
The Germany depicted swastika autobahn is impressive.
The artist stated, he wanted to find out if Europe could laugh at themselves.....
Pix #9, Mr. Cerny, shown here in Prague, is no stranger to stirring up controversy. In 1991, he was arrested for painting a tank in a Soviet war memorial bright pink. On his Web site, he stated that he "wanted to find out if Europe is able to laugh at itself."
Doesn't look like anyone is amused....
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:33:34pm |
re: #162 realwest
Uh, What's a Thunder Hog?!
F-4 Phantom II, one of nics is Somkin' Thunder Hog, smokey, loud, and a gas guzzler.
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:33:46pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:34:10pm |
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:34:23pm |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:34:27pm |
re: #179 jcm
F-4 Phantom II, one of nics is Somkin' Thunder Hog, smokey, loud, and a gas guzzler.
Living proof that with enough thrust, you can get anything to fly.
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:34:40pm |
re: #179 jcm Yeah, a gas guzzler but one us grunts loved - dropped lots of napalm on target in close air support in Vietnam!
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:34:42pm |
re: #170 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Meaning he has 3 years left as an expert pilot before the FAA grounds his ass as "too old" to be of use.
Just another example of your government looking out for us.
There are bold pilots.
There are old pilots.
They are very few old, bold pilots.
I'll fly with "old" anytime.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:34:48pm |
re: #5 nyc redneck
what a surreal photo.
oddly, so beautiful.
It's beautiful because those people have just been in a plane crash, for cryin' out loud, but they survived and were able to get out, apparently fairly quickly, and able to stand on the wings, and we know by now that they were rescued pretty quickly after that.
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snowcrash Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:35:10pm |
I think the Iowa cornfield crash ? pilot was and older experienced ex military pilot too. Thats who I want in the drivers seat.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:36:15pm |
re: #156 chicagodudewhotrades
7,439 airplane bird strikes in 2007
fox is showing some stats related to this event
We had a six person fatality business jet crash last summer as the result of ingestion of birds into engines.
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stuiec Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:36:55pm |
re: #151 MandyManners
Here is an even better hidden gem in the same artwork.
Černý's mosaic in Brussels reveals Prophet Mohammed
14:18 %P% 14.1.2009
CzechNewsPrague - As soon as Czech artist David Černý confessed that he was behind the artwork that is displayed in Brussels, here is another controversial revelation.
The mosaic formed as a map of Europe uses stereotypes of EU member states and the design of Denmark´s legoland bears a striking similarity to the Danish cartoons of Prophet Mohammed.
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Dr. Shalit Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:36:56pm |
re: #3 notutopia
This pilot needs to be canonized as a living Saint.
These passengers are so fortunate to be alive.
nutopia -
The Pilot is ex-military, "F-4 Driver" and a Pilot Union Safety Officer. He can pilot ANY plane I would ever fly. The landing and rescue amount to a miracle.
-S-
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:37:02pm |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:37:13pm |
re: #185 jcm
There are bold pilots.
There are old pilots.
They are very few old, bold pilots.I'll fly with "old" anytime.
This is a perfect example of how "one size fits all" bureaucratic decisions just don't work in real life.
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rightymouse Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:37:18pm |
re: #181 MandyManners
re: #146 rightymouse
re: #113 MandyManners
BTW - I left you a post on the previous thread about one of our illustrious Ohio Dem perps who just got nabbed.
If it had been a Republican, we know it would've made the headline or the first paragraph at least.
Especially since he served on the 'Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives' for Strickland. The howling from the press would be going on for days and days around here. And rightly so. But they won't do it for this guy because he's a Donk. **spit**
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:38:00pm |
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Leonidas Hoplite Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:38:05pm |
Glad you all liked the pic...I can't take credit for it as Charles noted but I did want to share it with you all.
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ArmyWife Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:38:23pm |
STOP THE PRESSES! What did Senator Chuckie Schumer mean by this?
"The pilot deserves the Congressional Medal of Honor," said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY). "They did an amazing and miraculous job."
The Congressional Medal of Honor is the highest award given to an member of the Armed Services of the United States for valor in action against an enemy force. What gives? Is there a conspiracy theory brewing here, or is Sen. Chuckie simply an ass?
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jetprop Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:39:18pm |
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:39:20pm |
re: #189 stuiec
Here is an even better hidden gem in the same artwork.
Cool!
I wish there was a better picture of that.
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:39:27pm |
re: #191 WhiteRasta
Hey WhiteRasta - thanks, I already found out from JCM - see #174 above.
BTW, didya see Shanec99's avatar yet?! Want me to hold your coat? LOL!
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:39:35pm |
Well, shiite, neither linkee no workee.....
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:39:46pm |
re: #195 jcm
Yeah, I remember that one... they almost made it work, using thrust to control glidepath or something like that, pilot on one set of controls, co-pilot on the other. A masterpiece of flying as I recall.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:39:55pm |
re: #196 Leonidas Hoplite
Thanks for sharing it.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:40:04pm |
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vxbush Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:40:07pm |
re: #197 ArmyWife
STOP THE PRESSES! What did Senator Chuckie Schumer mean by this?
The Congressional Medal of Honor is the highest award given to an member of the Armed Services of the United States for valor in action against an enemy force. What gives? Is there a conspiracy theory brewing here, or is Sen. Chuckie simply an ass?
Like you have to ask? I don't know what the requirements are to receive the Medal of Honor, but i would award him one if I could. If it's only for a member of the Armed Services, then what could we give him instead?
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ArmyWife Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:40:37pm |
re: #203 EmmmieG
I think you are right. Good gravy, these are the people we have running the country. How frightening.
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jetprop Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:40:48pm |
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captwfcall Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:41:10pm |
another story that seems fitting based on today's events.
'the Gimli Glider'
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:41:31pm |
re: #191 WhiteRasta
re: #162 realwest
A bad-ass man eating Mig killing jet fighter..
[Link: images.search.yahoo.com...]
Speaking of man-eating......do you know where you can see a man eating fish........
In a restaurant.........
/ Lame, I know.......
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:41:35pm |
re: #191 WhiteRasta
A bad-ass man eating Mig killing jet fighter..
[Link: images.search.yahoo.com...]
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:41:38pm |
re: #197 ArmyWife
Sen. Chuckie is an ass - and an evil ass too!
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jorline Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:41:57pm |
re: #197 ArmyWife
STOP THE PRESSES! What did Senator Chuckie Schumer mean by this?
The Congressional Medal of Honor is the highest award given to an member of the Armed Services of the United States for valor in action against an enemy force. What gives? Is there a conspiracy theory brewing here, or is Sen. Chuckie simply an ass?
Chuckie's never seen a MOH recipient.
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:42:22pm |
re: #197 ArmyWife
STOP THE PRESSES! What did Senator Chuckie Schumer mean by this?
The Congressional Medal of Honor is the highest award given to an member of the Armed Services of the United States for valor in action against an enemy force. What gives? Is there a conspiracy theory brewing here, or is Sen. Chuckie simply an ass?
It means Chuckie Schumkie is a idiot.
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notutopia Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:42:24pm |
re: #190 Dr. Shalit
nutopia -
The Pilot is ex-military, "F-4 Driver" and a Pilot Union Safety Officer. He can pilot ANY plane I would ever fly. The landing and rescue amount to a miracle.
-S-
It's notutopia Dr.
I am not arguing it is a miracle that these passengers were piloted with him at the helm and that the flight crew and rescue teams were readily available and rescued the passengers......are you?
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Soona' Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:42:33pm |
re: #197 ArmyWife
STOP THE PRESSES! What did Senator Chuckie Schumer mean by this?
The Congressional Medal of Honor is the highest award given to an member of the Armed Services of the United States for valor in action against an enemy force. What gives? Is there a conspiracy theory brewing here, or is Sen. Chuckie simply an ass?
Come on! It's Schumer. He's a dem double-ass.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:42:34pm |
re: #197 ArmyWife
STOP THE PRESSES! What did Senator Chuckie Schumer mean by this?
The Congressional Medal of Honor is the highest award given to an member of the Armed Services of the United States for valor in action against an enemy force. What gives? Is there a conspiracy theory brewing here, or is Sen. Chuckie simply an ass?
They were specially trained suicide geese from the Canadian terrorist group Al-Birda.
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ArmyWife Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:42:48pm |
re: #207 vxbush
He deserves a serious award, no doubt. But not this one! Guidelines:
On July 25,1963 Congress established a set of guidelines under which the Medal of Honor could be awarded:
a.) while engaged in an action against an enemy of the United States;
b.) while engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force; or,
c.) while serving with friendly forces engaged in armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party.
More here: [Link: www.cmohs.org...]
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3 wood Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:43:02pm |
Good evening.
A tip of the cap to the Captain and all the flight crew.
Great work.
And to all the boats, ferry's and safety equipment operators out there int he cold helping those people, good job toPr
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:43:29pm |
re: #216 jcm
Yep, and an ass! BTW, received and replied to my friend!
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:43:30pm |
I can't seem to copy and paste any links from an image..Any ideas why?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:44:04pm |
If there isn't an award we can give to him, we need to make one up.
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captwfcall Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:44:19pm |
btw, i broke some rules i think by posting his email address..i was only trying to show his domain name, which is ironic.
[Link: www.safetyreliability.com...]
'about us'
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:44:31pm |
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CIA Reject Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:45:00pm |
re: #199 jetprop
That's an amazing story, too.
If I remember correctly that was the incident where an Air National Guard A-7 unit was awarded an air medal for executing an unplanned, high performance formation landing to clear the way for the airliner.
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vxbush Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:45:14pm |
re: #220 ArmyWife
He deserves a serious award, no doubt. But not this one! Guidelines:
On July 25,1963 Congress established a set of guidelines under which the Medal of Honor could be awarded:
a.) while engaged in an action against an enemy of the United States;
b.) while engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force; or,
c.) while serving with friendly forces engaged in armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party.More here: [Link: www.cmohs.org...]
Thanks for the clarifications. Alas, I am clueless on such things.
So what could he get instead? Presidential Medal of Honor, certainly....
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:45:35pm |
re: #207 vxbush
Hey {vxbush} -"If it's only for a member of the Armed Services, then what could we give him instead?"
A Presidential Medal of Freedom maybe? Something like that.
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vxbush Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:46:15pm |
re: #231 vxbush
Thanks for the clarifications. Alas, I am clueless on such things.
So what could he get instead? Presidential Medal of Honor, certainly....
GAH! Realwest got it right: Presidential Medal of Freedom. The cold has addled my brain.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:46:59pm |
re: #231 vxbush
Thanks for the clarifications. Alas, I am clueless on such things.
So what could he get instead? Presidential Medal of Honor, certainly....
he doesnt need a medal or probably want one...he's good and he did his job...that's all there is to it....
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itellu3times Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:47:14pm |
re: #45 Silhouette
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Bank of America Corp. and Wells Fargo & Co. say a number of employees of the banks were on board a US Airways plane that crashed into New York's Hudson River.
No wonder it needed a bail-out?
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:47:37pm |
re: #231 vxbush
Thanks for the clarifications. Alas, I am clueless on such things.
So what could he get instead? Presidential Medal of Honor, certainly....
The key to the city. If there's a security system they can give him the security code to the city.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:47:48pm |
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WhiteRasta Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:48:04pm |
Back in the day, they used to land F-4's on Aircraft carriers AT NIGHT....
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rain of lead Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:48:10pm |
ot
I know this has to have been posted earlier but I just saw this and I
am amazed. truly this is a day for heros. If you have not seen it watch
IDF soldier 1 - grenade tossing hamasshole 0
I repeat this is awsome!
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captwfcall Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:48:20pm |
re: #3 notutopia
This pilot needs to be canonized as a living Saint.
These passengers are so fortunate to be alive.
he's already passed the first qualification for beatification. performing a miracle
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Catttt Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:48:28pm |
On the wings of an angel.
Awesome pilot. He saved some 150 lives today.
Awesome quick response from the NYC tugs, police, Coast Guard, and ferry systems.
I read that the people on one ferry that picked people up gave the survivors their coats, warmed their hands, put them in the warmest part of the ferry, hugged them to get them warm, etc. I'd call that an awesome team effort of good people.
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:48:44pm |
re: #237 itellu3times
Groan! Hey, my dentist and his 18 year old daughter were supposed to be on that flight too! And based on what I've paid him, he doesn't need a bail-out! LOL!
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albusteve Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:48:45pm |
re: #239 EmmmieG
Okay then, how about a bunch of high-paying speaking jobs? To young pilots.
now we're talkin....
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ratherdashing Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:49:11pm |
MSNBC has photos from eyewitnesses at FirstPerson
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ArmyWife Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:49:25pm |
re: #231 vxbush
The highest civilian award is the Congressional Gold Medal. [Link: www.congressionalgoldmedal.com...]
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:49:56pm |
re: #231 vxbush
re: #220 ArmyWife
He deserves a serious award, no doubt. But not this one! Guidelines:
On July 25,1963 Congress established a set of guidelines under which the Medal of Honor could be awarded:
a.) while engaged in an action against an enemy of the United States;
b.) while engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force; or,
c.) while serving with friendly forces engaged in armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party.More here: [Link: www.cmohs.org...]
Thanks for the clarifications. Alas, I am clueless on such things.So what could he get instead? Presidential Medal of Honor, certainly....
New York should give him a parade. A good, old fashioned ticker tape parade. We need some real heroes and this gentlemen is the genuine article.....
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3 wood Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:50:16pm |
re: #224 realwest
Yes! and an Amen to all and for all!
Got my new home PC up and running. This Apple is slicker than a whistle.%Pr
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:50:46pm |
re: #243 Catttt
"I'd call that an awesome team effort of good people."
How can that be, they were from NYC!
/very heavy; NYC's still my hometown!
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Soona' Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:50:48pm |
re: #233 realwest
re: #207 vxbush
Hey {vxbush} -"If it's only for a member of the Armed Services, then what could we give him instead?"
A Presidential Medal of Freedom maybe? Something like that.
The zero will probably give him a slap on the back and a Las Vegas coupon book.
Obama: "I heard you were in the military too. That's nice".
//can't help it
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3 wood Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:51:38pm |
re: #244 realwest
And based on what I've paid him, he doesn't need a bail-out! LOL!
He probably could buy a new jet for what you've had done on your teetPr
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jetprop Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:55:17pm |
re: #230 CIA Reject
If I remember correctly that was the incident where an Air National Guard A-7 unit was awarded an air medal for executing an unplanned, high performance formation landing to clear the way for the airliner.
National attention focused on the unit in 1989 when United Airlines Flight 232, flown by a crew led by Captain Al Haynes, was forced to crash land at the Sioux City Airport. With its key role in the crash recovery and rescue of survivors in the crash, the 185th was credited with helping save numerous lives and showed the nation the true heart of Siouxland and the unit.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:55:37pm |
This plane crash was God punishing us for tolerating homosexuality and abortion and "Skating with the Stars".
Glad everyone made it out.
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Tamron Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:56:51pm |
re: #183 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Living proof that with enough thrust, you can get anything to fly.
Yep. For awhile the F4 held some impressive records for time-to-altitude.
Something on the order of, from brake-release up to 60,000 feet in approx. 60 seconds. Remember the story of a control tower who challenged an F4 sitting on the runway to catch a B52 that was making a contrail, way out on the horizon. IIRC, the F4 streaked past the B52 seventy-two miles away, in less then two minutes.
Noisy bastards, especially on an aircraft carrier. Really good air support when you're unarmed and being chased by MiG's, however.
.
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:57:50pm |
re: #246 ratherdashing
MSNBC has photos from eyewitnesses at FirstPerson
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
Excellent photos. Regular citizens take great pictures. I like the one of the plane alone on the river before help arrived. Very dramatic!
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realwest Thu, Jan 15, 2009 4:59:21pm |
Well gotta go eat dinner - hope I get the chance to see you all down the road!
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:00:39pm |
re: #255 Occasional Reader
This plane crash was God punishing us for tolerating homosexuality and abortion and "Skating with the Stars". American Idol tipped the scales.
Glad everyone made it out.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:02:02pm |
re: #189 stuiec
That Czech sculpture is funny in its parts, and even funnier in its overall concept. It's in the form of a plastic sprue, like the ones that the parts for injection molded scale models. The whole thing is a comment on the 'plastic model' European Union.
[Link: www.spiegel.de...]
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NoSubmission Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:03:44pm |
re: #260 jaunte
That Czech sculpture is funny in its parts, and even funnier in its overall concept. It's in the form of a plastic sprue, like the ones that the parts for injection molded scale models. The whole thing is a comment on the 'plastic model' European Union.
[Link: www.spiegel.de...]
Here's the close up of the Mohammed bomb turban one for Denmark..
[Link: www.spiegel.de...]
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Guanxi88 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:03:46pm |
re: #154 Silhouette
I found a SULLENBERGER, CHESLEY BURNETT that was born in Grayson County, Texas on 1 23 1951.
That would make him 57, with his birthday next Friday.
A Texan, of course!
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Tamron Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:05:58pm |
re: #233 realwest
Hey {vxbush} -"If it's only for a member of the Armed Services, then what could we give him instead?"
A Presidential Medal of Freedom maybe? Something like that.
Give him the privilege of naming his next airplane "Barack", of course!
.
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Catttt Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:08:57pm |
re: #246 ratherdashing
MSNBC has photos from eyewitnesses at FirstPerson
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
Wow. They have the plane tethered to the wall at Battery Park!
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So? Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:09:19pm |
Hamas proposed a year-long, renewable cease-fire, the withdrawal of all Israel forces within 5 to 7 days, and the immediate opening of all Gaza border crossings, backed by international guarantees they would stay open.
A whole year. You mean it'll take that long to rearm. You'd think with their superior tunnel building technology they could be up and running again in 3-4 months. ISRAEL DON'T STOP!
/what does renewable mean/ do they have to go to a notary?
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David IV of Georgia Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:11:58pm |
The pilot made a very good decision. With both engines out and not much altitude, he should not glide over Manhattan, the Bronx or Queens to try to land back at LaGuardia. He almost certainly would have lost too much speed and altitude and landed short in some neighborhood. He obviously had sufficient speed and altitude to correctly situate the aircraft for ditching in the river and he had the skill and experience to recognize it. His decision to ditch in the river not only saved the lives of those on board, but also many lives on land as well. He did it right.
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Catttt Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:13:33pm |
Smoking Gun has a pic of the pilot.
The Hero Of Flight 1549
Veteran pilot, 57, safely landed US Airways jet in Hudson River
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uptight Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:15:22pm |
Ceasefire didn't work in Gulf War 1. It didn't work in any of the Lebanon wars. It won't work with Hamas.
What will work...call it a "peace plan" if you like....is the obliteration of Hamas as a military presence. Islamic Jihad and the Al Asqas, too.
The Palestinians need a new hobby.
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Ceemack Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:16:45pm |
re: #39 Sharmuta
For all the shit New Yorkers get, they always seem to rush in to help when their city needs them. Bravo to all the captains.
There are two New York Cities.
There are the people who go to art galleries and Broadway openings, continue to groan about Rudy Giuliani, and vote for Hillary Clinton as if she's actually a New Yorker.
Then there are the New Yorkers who actually make the whole thing work. Cops, firemen, cabbies, waiters, hotel desk clerks, etc.
You can guess which ones were piloting the ferries and the tugs today.
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:19:15pm |
re: #267 David IV of Georgia
The pilot made a very good decision. With both engines out and not much altitude, he should not glide over Manhattan, the Bronx or Queens to try to land back at LaGuardia. He almost certainly would have lost too much speed and altitude and landed short in some neighborhood. He obviously had sufficient speed and altitude to correctly situate the aircraft for ditching in the river and he had the skill and experience to recognize it. His decision to ditch in the river not only saved the lives of those on board, but also many lives on land as well. He did it right.
Absolutely, and he had to make all those decisions, and make up his mind in a flash. Then get lined up for the ditching.
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Ceemack Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:20:55pm |
re: #197 ArmyWife
Is there a conspiracy theory brewing here, or is Sen. Chuckie simply an ass?
Good heavens...you even have to ask? I think the only person left on the planet who doesn't think Chuckie Schumer is an ass is...Chuckie Schumer.
Although even he may be aware...
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jcm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:24:34pm |
re: #272 Ceemack
Good heavens...you even have to ask? I think the only person left on the planet who doesn't think Chuckie Schumer is an ass is...Chuckie Schumer.
Although even he may be aware...
To be aware takes a brain.....
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David IV of Georgia Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:28:48pm |
re: #271 jcm
Absolutely, and he had to make all those decisions, and make up his mind in a flash. Then get lined up for the ditching.
It's hard to clearly recognize all the pertinent factors in such a tense and time-constrained situation. No doubt his military flying, which is some of the most difficult multi-task work there is, helped. Military pilots in combat have to keep track of their basic instrumentation, maneuver their aircraft violently without exceeding its abilities, operate weapons systems and radio systems, keep track of enemies both in the air and on ground and perhaps a half dozen other things. Even doing everything right is not always enough for a military pilot, but failure to do it right tends to be painful and expensive.
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HobokenIrish Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:43:19pm |
I live on the Hoboken side of the river and this plane basically landed right in front of my building. This pilot is nothing short of amazing.
I was at work in the city when it happened so I did not see it, and when I got home you would think nothing happened. All was quiet.
Big ups to the Pilot
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darkster2400 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 5:48:21pm |
Obviously, we JOOS were behind this to get attention diverted from the elimination of the terrorist thugs massacre of innocents in Gaza - didn't you get the last memo from the WWJC? Come on!
Seriously - extremely glad to see that it ended so well - kudos to the men and women of the NYPD, FDNY, PAPD, etc.
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oh_dude Thu, Jan 15, 2009 6:00:24pm |
When I first started flight training I rmember my first instructor (an ex-airline capt.) telling me that it's not the impact that kills most people in anairline crash, it's the fire that is usually a result of the impact.
He said, if you find yourself survivng the impact, do whatever you can to avoid panicing becuase you'll need to remain calm to plan your escape.
Yeah, right dude. Easier said than done.
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beermeister Thu, Jan 15, 2009 6:11:37pm |
re: #247 ArmyWife
re: #231 vxbush
The highest civilian award is the Congressional Gold Medal. [Link: www.congressionalgoldmedal.com...]
He could also get this:
Presidential Medal of Freedom
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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justdontlikematall Thu, Jan 15, 2009 6:28:25pm |
I haven't read this thread yet. Of course I am thankful to God that everyone survived and I can use this incident to celebrate the resiliency of the human spirit! The pilot, flight crew, passengers, first responders (professional and civilian) and all else involved are a credit to all that is good with our species. I also must (grudgingly) give credit where it's due. In this case, CNN has covered this event very well. I'm a NY'er who is currently in Rhode Island for business and I am very impressed at the job they did today. I don't like their politics and lefty slant but CNN and Wolfie in particular kept me very informed and asked pertinent questions as it all unfolded. Dobbs was very good, Campbell was ok and now Larry is being Larry. The real time coverage reminded me of the unique for its time coverage by CNN of the start of Desert Storm. PALIN/SULLENBERGER 2012
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mattm Thu, Jan 15, 2009 6:39:49pm |
re: #88 gregg
I just got in so I haven't had a chance to read the details of the crash, but I was wondering how deep the water is at the point where the plane came to a rest? Why hasn't it sunk? I apologize if those are stupid questions...
Don't know how deep it was but if it was landing in NY maybe the empty fuel tanks served as some sort of ballast.
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Optimizer Thu, Jan 15, 2009 6:57:31pm |
Clearly this was an act of international terrorism. A coordinated effort by a group called GEESE, in from Canada, brought down this plane and their religious affiliation remains conspicuously unreported...
Any bets on how long it takes to hear from PETA on this? (I think they have ties to GEESE, BTW.)
:-)
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darkster2400 Thu, Jan 15, 2009 7:05:49pm |
re: #281 Optimizer
Hey - lay off us Canucks, eh- it's GD cold up here...and don't let anyone know that they were Jewish Canadian geese
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witness Thu, Jan 15, 2009 7:17:05pm |
Thank God they all lived.
BTW, how much you wanna bet Dear Leader will try to take political advantage of this and invite the Pilot to the inauguration?
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Seax Thu, Jan 15, 2009 7:24:08pm |
I can remember the flight instructor looking
at me and saying after a particularly totally
screwed up landing and saying...
"Don't do that again I don't want to die..."
Then saying something about a "good landing
is something that you can walk away from...mutter mutter".
So when I see a picture like this all I can say is...
"Sir - well done Sir!"
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Optimizer Thu, Jan 15, 2009 8:54:09pm |
re: #282 darkster2400
re: #281 Optimizer
Hey - lay off us Canucks, eh- it's GD cold up here...and don't let anyone know that they were Jewish Canadian geese
Stay warm, neighbor (I'm less than 20 miles from Canada, myself) - especially tomorrow! (And your "secret" is safe with me!) My kid may be off school tomorrow due to the slightly negative temperature (in degF) plus high wind producing a "not-so-slightly negative" wind chill.
This really is quite the feel-good story. Besides, how many times do you hear them tell you what to do in case of a water landing, and how many times has it EVER happened (and in such a way that what they tell you would really help)? Maybe I'll pay more attention next time.
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LeePro Thu, Jan 15, 2009 9:24:13pm |
OT... multi-thread post
Valkyrie (the real story) on the regular History Channel now. No video at website — must watch on tv.
BBIAW
...or not
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ChipDWood Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:29:09am |
Anyone find this amazing- not just for the fact that everyone survived and helped each other- but it happened, on the HUDSON, the very day that the President was saying goodbye to the Country?
Ya think anyone in the media will see the serendipity, with their layers and layers of fact checking?
It really is something, and I'm seeing it from the banks of Jersey (Boulevard East, to be precise).
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forrest Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:24:17am |
FNC was using this photo on Fox and Friends today.
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blangwort Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:36:09am |
Fellow Lizards,
As a pilot of more than a few years myself, I must say that the words my flight instructors drilled in to me are still ringing in my ears.
No matter what happens, DO NOT FORGET TO FLY THE AIRCRAFT!
I know it sounds stupid, but you'd be amazed how many very experienced people get extremely flustered when bad stuff starts happening. Captain Sullenberg kept his cool. Aircraft do not fall when the engines stop producing power. It's physics: an object in motion will stay moving unless something stops it. He continued flying until they had safely stopped.
Should anything that bad happen to me, I hope I can stay as cool as he did.
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zeir Fri, Jan 16, 2009 11:17:19am |
It's a good day for New York, true. I am also gratified that Sully is not a youngster, flying for 38 years. His resume, on his website, is very impressive; it is as if he has a Doctorate in emergency landings! Why, indeed, compel such a master to retire?
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