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The less we deserve good fortune, the more we hope for it.

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1 AmeriDan  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:17:20pm

Where all the infidel woman at?

2 Kragar  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:18:10pm

Life’s so much easier when you’ve got someone to blame.
- Gilbran Quail, Collected Essays

3 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:19:32pm
4 x-wing  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:20:56pm

Camera moved building still burning. Still no audio.

5 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:22:47pm

I think that's just a fancy way of sayin', "you're screwed".

6 Kragar  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:23:06pm

re: #4 x-wing

Camera moved building still burning. Still no audio.

WHOOPEDY-DOO!

7 StudSupreme  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:23:40pm

Evenin', y'all

8 Kragar  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:26:12pm

Slow night

9 SFGoth  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:34:58pm

Any Lizards in the S.F. Bay Area who enjoy wine should know about this this weekend: [Link: www.wineroad.com...] -- winterwineland. It's 120-ish Russian River & Alexander Valley wineries participating in an open house where for $40 you can travel to as many wineries as you want and sample some great boutique wines, buy futures, and get great deals on bottles/cases (I suspect this year will be outstanding in this regard). I'm going up with 6 goth friends (one of whom I should introduce to this site) and we're dressing up for it, so if you're there and you see some people dressed late Victorian, say, well, what sound do lizards make?

10 SFGoth  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:35:18pm

Oh yeah, and the weather's been damn faboo here! :-P

11 Abu Al-Poopypants  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:37:42pm

Oops, the cat stepped on the clicker again.

12 BenZacharia  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:38:06pm

balmy -13 here

13 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:42:07pm

re: #12 BenZacharia

OMG We are in the eighties during the day in LA right now. I have been taking the top down on my car. It's crazy. I guess that's one reason we put up with our state. Hope you get some better weather.

Just checking in for a few. How are all of the lizards?

14 gmsc  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:43:38pm
15 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:45:01pm

re: #12 BenZacharia

Its 3 below Fahrenheit here in KC MO. A three dog night for sure.

16 Kragar  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:45:03pm

re: #13 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #12 BenZacharia

OMG We are in the eighties during the day in LA right now. I have been taking the top down on my car. It's crazy. I guess that's one reason we put up with our state. Hope you get some better weather.

Just checking in for a few. How are all of the lizards?

80s! Luxury!. It was a frigid 70ish in San Diego today and some people said they felt a slight breeze.

PFFF, 80s.

17 gmsc  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:45:07pm

re: #13 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG We are in the eighties during the day in LA right now. I have been taking the top down on my car. It's crazy. I guess that's one reason we put up with our state. Hope you get some better weather.

Just checking in for a few. How are all of the lizards?

It's getting up to around 70 here in Vegas during the day, with nights around 42-45 at night, so it's actually quite nice right now!

18 x-wing  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:45:40pm

re: #12 BenZacharia

balmy -13 here

Is that counting the wind chill? Doesn't really matter though. Once the temp hits 10 degrees F, it's just damn cold.

19 redc1c4  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:46:42pm

re: #12 BenZacharia

balmy -13 here

i was just outside in my bare feet & shorts... it's in the mid 50's.
we're expecting mid 80's again tomorrow, and pretty much the same thing all weekend.

/white smoke

20 BenZacharia  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:46:44pm

suppose to hit -20 by mornin'

21 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:47:11pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

80s! Luxury!. It was a frigid 70ish in San Diego today and some people said they felt a slight breeze.

PFFF, 80s.

Heh. I have a sweater on as we speak. It sure is great, though. I am going to dread the La Nina summer.

22 UncleSam  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:47:38pm

re: #10 SFGoth

Yes, it has been, except for the rain of squirrels, a sure sign of the End of Times.
(For some reason, I saw a whole lot of squirrels today.)

23 Pietr  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:47:49pm

I noticed last night-but never got it said-but Achmed has moved the camera. We're either next window, next balcony, or next room over from the original position. There is a street in front (toward bottom screen) of that high rise bldg, center screen. Look real close, and you'll see the traffic moving. Those green yard areas are partly hidden by that real whitish 6 story bldg-previously, we could see all of those yards, and the walls around them. Any one else agree?

24 redc1c4  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:48:19pm

re: #13 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG We are in the eighties during the day in LA right now. I have been taking the top down on my car. It's crazy. I guess that's one reason we put up with our state. Hope you get some better weather.

Just checking in for a few. How are all of the lizards?

you going to the Ace of Spades Moronapalooza in Santa Monica caturday evening?

25 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:48:27pm

re: #17 gmsc

It's getting up to around 70 here in Vegas during the day, with nights around 42-45 at night, so it's actually quite nice right now!

Nice break for me but we do need some more rain, etc. It sounds more and more like a hot dry year.

26 redc1c4  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:49:25pm

re: #21 Pvt Bin Jammin

Heh. I have a sweater on as we speak. It sure is great, though. I am going to dread the La Nina summer.

should lead to some truly amazing brush fires...

27 Pietr  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:49:57pm

re: #22 UncleSam

re: #10 SFGoth

Yes, it has been, except for the rain of squirrels, a sure sign of the End of Times.
(For some reason, I saw a whole lot of squirrels today.)

Then, wouldn't that be the "reign of squirrels"? :>)

28 x-wing  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:50:06pm

re: #20 BenZacharia

suppose to hit -20 by mornin'

Great news... not.

Sorry for your luck. It's 8F right now in south central PA., but this is supposed to be the coldest night for now. We're looking at low 30's for the day and mid-teen overnight for the next 4 days. March can't come soon enough for me.

29 UncleSam  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:50:28pm

re: #27 Pietr

Then, wouldn't that be the "reign of squirrels"? :>)

That, too...

30 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:51:29pm

It's 5 days now until I win 2 bets:

#1. Bush isn't going to invade Iran before he's out of office.
#2. Bush isn't going to use NSPD 51 to cancel elections and/or the inauguration and declare martial law so he can stay in office in order to accomplish #1.

It's the only reason I have to look forward to the 20th but unfortunately I cant remember what it was that I'm actually supposed to win.

31 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:51:47pm

re: #20 BenZacharia

suppose to hit -20 by mornin'

You should sue al-goracle.

32 redc1c4  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:52:04pm

re: #28 x-wing

Great news... not.

Sorry for your luck. It's 8F right now in south central PA., but this is supposed to be the coldest night for now. We're looking at low 30's for the day and mid-teen overnight for the next 4 days. March can't come soon enough for me.

i got an email from a buddy who lives near Ft. McCoy.

it was so cold today that they skipped w*rk and stayed home for safety.

/no wonder my dad never talks about moving home to Wisconsin. %-)

33 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:52:18pm

re: #24 redc1c4

you going to the Ace of Spades Moronapalooza in Santa Monica caturday evening?

OMG I will miss it again. We are invited to a Bat Mitzvah that morning and the party that evening. We are committed to the event. This will be my first Bat Mitzvah. Have only gone to weddings before. Looking forward to it but sad to be missing the "Moronapalooza". You should tell Desert Sage about it.

34 redc1c4  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:53:00pm

re: #30 ArchangelMichael

It's 5 days now until I win 2 bets:

#1. Bush isn't going to invade Iran before he's out of office.
#2. Bush isn't going to use NSPD 51 to cancel elections and/or the inauguration and declare martial law so he can stay in office in order to accomplish #1.

It's the only reason I have to look forward to the 20th but unfortunately I cant remember what it was that I'm actually supposed to win.

4 years of "Hope" & "Change".

35 x-wing  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:53:18pm

re: #23 Pietr

Yes, noticed that after the camera pan a little bit ago. Buildings didn't line up with the shot we had before.

36 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:53:45pm

Caturday?

37 x-wing  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:55:08pm

re: #25 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #17 gmsc


Nice break for me but we do need some more rain, etc. It sounds more and more like a hot dry year.


Invite Al Gore over. Seems bad weather follows him around ;>}

38 redc1c4  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:55:37pm

re: #33 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG I will miss it again. We are invited to a Bat Mitzvah that morning and the party that evening. We are committed to the event. This will be my first Bat Mitzvah. Have only gone to weddings before. Looking forward to it but sad to be missing the "Moronapalooza". You should tell Desert Sage about it.

pass this on to him for me please:
Moron Meetup is going to be on Saturday, January 17 at 7:30pm at a restaurant/bar called South. It's in Santa Monica, near West L.A.

39 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:56:10pm

re: #34 redc1c4

4 years of "Hope" & "Change".

I said "win" not "have thrust upon me whether I like it or not".

40 x-wing  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:56:13pm

re: #36 Sharmuta

Caturday?

Yes, the day to clean the litter box :>}

41 redc1c4  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:57:03pm

re: #36 Sharmuta

Caturday?

you can has cheezburger!

42 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:57:44pm

re: #37 x-wing

No doubt he is already in town having a press conference about the heat. LOL It is supposed to get up to 87 tomorrow (according to earlier forecasts), haven't checked lately.

43 redc1c4  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:57:57pm

re: #39 ArchangelMichael

I said "win" not "have thrust upon me whether I like it or not".

quit complaining: it's for your own good.

/white smoke

44 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:58:50pm

re: #43 redc1c4

"Da comrade commissar!"

45 redc1c4  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:59:42pm

re: #42 Pvt Bin Jammin

No doubt he is already in town having a press conference about the heat. LOL It is supposed to get up to 87 tomorrow (according to earlier forecasts), haven't checked lately.

forecast for the Budweiser mill

46 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 15, 2009 11:59:49pm

re: #41 redc1c4

you can has cheezburger!

Great caption for the "Cheezburger site. Great typo too.

I thought I was the typo champ.

47 Abu Al-Poopypants  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:00:24am

We were attacked by radical Gooslamists, and we brought it on ourselves.

48 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:00:36am

re: #44 ArchangelMichael

"Da comrade commissar!"

the shortages will be divided amongst the peasants.

49 x-wing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:00:39am

re: #42 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #37 x-wing

No doubt he is already in town having a press conference about the heat. LOL It is supposed to get up to 87 tomorrow (according to earlier forecasts), haven't checked lately.


87 tomorrow, now you're just rubbing it in ;>}

//

50 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:00:51am

re: #41 redc1c4

you can has cheezburger!

Really?

51 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:01:30am

re: #48 redc1c4

the shortages will be divided amongst the peasants.

But... but... there are never shortages of Hopenchange!

52 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:01:52am

re: #45 redc1c4

forecast for the Budweiser mill

Even nicer than 87 degrees. That's gettin' on the hot side for me.

53 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:02:01am

re: #46 Pvt Bin Jammin

Great caption for the "Cheezburger site. Great typo too.

I thought I was the typo champ.

i typed it on porpoise, 'cause i think it's finny...

54 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:02:21am

re: #44 ArchangelMichael

re: #43 redc1c4

"Da comrade commissar!"

Yesterday we had The AntiChrist posting-today, it's ArchangelMichael. We have to arrange a meeting somehow...

55 Kragar  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:02:37am

re: #53 redc1c4

re: #46 Pvt Bin Jammin


i typed it on porpoise, 'cause i think it's finny...

sounds like a fluke

56 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:03:19am

re: #52 Pvt Bin Jammin

Even nicer than 87 degrees. That's gettin' on the hot side for me.

so what you're saying is that you're hot enough already... %-)

LNDT Cougar warning in effect!

57 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:03:41am

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

sounds like a fluke

regular or liver?

58 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:04:08am

re: #54 Pietr

"I think that would be extraordinarily dangerous"

59 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:05:40am

re: #51 ArchangelMichael

But... but... there are never shortages of Hopenchange!

after 4 years of change, i predict hope will be nearly extinguished, and the whole country will be begging for spare change.

Hope is just failure postponed.

60 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:05:47am

re: #49 x-wing

87 tomorrow, now you're just rubbing it in ;>}

//

That was seriously featured in Monday's local forecast, but I am busy and behind on the local stuff. Glad we are possibly cooling off to a mere 80. I have to admit I am loving it but our state is pretty screwed up.

61 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:06:28am

re: #51 ArchangelMichael

re: #48 redc1c4


But... but... there are never shortages of Hopenchange!

Well, you can keep mine for dividing-I've seen what drinking that stuff did to a lot of peeps...

/white smoke...

62 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:07:32am

re: #53 redc1c4

i typed it on porpoise, 'cause i think it's finny...

Do you think I am "Catty?", you Cad, you. LOL

63 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:08:46am

re: #60 Pvt Bin Jammin

That was seriously featured in Monday's local forecast, but I am busy and behind on the local stuff. Glad we are possibly cooling off to a mere 80. I have to admit I am loving it but our state is pretty completely screwed up.

FTFY!

64 x-wing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:08:47am

re: #59 redc1c4

Did you see her "Just Because" comment? I'm sure you could come up with context for that. ;>}

65 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:09:36am

re: #58 ArchangelMichael

re: #54 Pietr

"I think that would be extraordinarily dangerous"

Well, Walter told him that with that name, he could only post in post 666 on any thread...and so he sorta wandered off, I think...

66 x-wing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:11:14am

re: #65 Pietr

re: #58 ArchangelMichael


re: #54 Pietr

"I think that would be extraordinarily dangerous"


Well, Walter told him that with that name, he could only post in post 666 on any thread...and so he sorta wandered off, I think...

Well the last thread stopped at 667, dare we take a look? ;>}

67 UncleSam  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:11:42am

Funny how we've had the coldest weather in years and Russian scientists say we're heading into another Ice Age, but the Dems are moving at light speed to enact taxes, restrictions, etcetera predicated upon the global warming fraud.
Gore should be in jail for perpetrating global hoaxing and profiting to the tune of millions upon millions of dollars from it, with his lying movie and his corporation which sells carbon credits.
It's all a fraud.
How I loathe him, the lefty fascist con man.

68 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:13:01am

BTW, I turned 41 yesterday!

However, it my mom who felt old when she saw Patty Duke on TV talking about applying for Social Security.

69 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:14:06am

re: #68 gmsc

Happy Belated Birthday!

70 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:15:01am

On a Gazacam thread on another forum, the rooster has be named "Bob".

71 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:15:13am

re: #69 Sharmuta

Happy Belated Birthday!

Thank you!

72 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:15:21am

re: #62 Pvt Bin Jammin

Do you think I am "Catty?", you Cad, you. LOL

the self-absorbed Pilates bimbo that bounced off of me today would likely agree with that definition of me. she deliberately walked right at me so i would have to move.

unfortunately for her self esteem, i didn't. she then went for the predictable verbal gambit, which resulted in an epic fail and left her in a spluttering rage.

/made *my* day. %-)

73 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:15:29am

re: #66 x-wing

re: #65 Pietr


re: #58 ArchangelMichael


re: #54 Pietr

"I think that would be extraordinarily dangerous"


Well, Walter told him that with that name, he could only post in post 666 on any thread...and so he sorta wandered off, I think...

Well the last thread stopped at 667, dare we take a look? ;>}

I believe I was post 665 and 667 there-pretty sure it wasn't him on that 666 in between...LOL.

74 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:16:15am

re: #63 redc1c4

LOL It's a mess, isn't it? I voted for Arnold! Still better than Grey but OMG it is a mess.

I'm "hitting the hay" now. LOL We are really busy right now. Let me know how the Santa Monica meetup goes.

Take care, all.

75 x-wing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:17:38am

re: #67 UncleSam

Maybe we should send him copies of our heating bills and tell him to just his pie-hole.
I'm sure the Gas company execs. are rubbing their hands together just watching the cfms' racking up on our meters.

76 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:17:48am
77 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:17:52am

Four days until the insanity commences...sigh.

78 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:18:29am
79 x-wing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:19:07am

re: #68 gmsc

Happy be-lated birthday.

80 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:19:36am

re: #69 Sharmuta

Happy Belated Birthday!

The girl friend (not a girlfriend, just a girl who's a good friend) I see occasionally has her birthday on Jan. 12th, so we usually celebrate our birthdays together.

When I went in to her work today, everybody seemed very somber, and in a less than positive mood.

It seems her employer took the incredibly stupid move of announcing that 1,100 jobs in their Vegas stores would be cut, but that the employees who were being cut wouldn't be contacted until next week.

Brilliant way of motivating people, isn't it? "Oh, BTW, some of you will be fired, but we won't say who until next week."

81 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:19:40am

re: #72 redc1c4

the self-absorbed Pilates bimbo that bounced off of me today would likely agree with that definition of me. she deliberately walked right at me so i would have to move.

unfortunately for her self esteem, i didn't. she then went for the predictable verbal gambit, which resulted in an epic fail and left her in a spluttering rage.

/made *my* day. %-)

I didn't see your earlier post. LOL

Good for you!

/Pilates
not really.
Nite

82 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:20:03am

re: #79 x-wing

Happy be-lated birthday.

Thanks!

83 steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:21:02am

re: #68 gmsc

BTW, I turned 41 yesterday!

Young impertinent whippersnapper!
Happy B-day to you.

84 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:21:03am

re: #82 gmsc

Happy belated birthday!
Nite

85 Abu Al-Poopypants  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:21:21am

re: #77 MrPaulRevere

Four days until the insanity commences...sigh.

I'm thinking about wearing all black that day.

86 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:21:58am

Best wishes for many more gsmc. Any day you are above ground is a good day.

87 wiffersnapper  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:22:30am

re: #85 Abu Al-Poopypants

yo that's racist man!

88 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:22:36am

re: #68 gmsc

BTW, I turned 41 yesterday!

However, it my mom who felt old when she saw Patty Duke on TV talking about applying for Social Security.

Birthday greetings and wishes be upon you...:>))

89 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:22:49am

re: #77 MrPaulRevere

Four days until the insanity commences...sigh.

My buddies and I have been making jokes about possible inauguration events:

• About 15 minutes after being sworn in, 0bama will walk across the Potomac

• 3 wise men/kings will give gifts of gold and myrrh to 0bama. Unfortunately, they couldn't find any Franken sense.

Any others?

90 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:24:27am

re: #89 gmsc

In the middle of his speech, he resigns. Welcome President Biden.

91 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:24:50am

re: #83 steve

BTW, I turned 41 yesterday!

Young impertinent whippersnapper!
Happy B-day to you.

re: #84 Pvt Bin Jammin

Happy belated birthday!
Nite

re: #86 MrPaulRevere

Best wishes for many more gsmc. Any day you are above ground is a good day.

re: #88 Pietr

Birthday greetings and wishes be upon you...:>))

Awww . . . this is the coolest birthday gift I could get from you!

(Oh, and good night, PBJ!)

92 steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:25:00am

re: #80 gmsc


Hell of a way to run a company. My company is just about as stupid. I got laid off for two weeks over the Christmas holidays, came back to work for two days and got laid off until Feb 2. the really stupid thing about this is that I have bid on another position in the company got the position but my current stupidvisors refuse to let me go. Seems I am to valuable to them. All I want to do is work.

93 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:25:44am

re: #77 MrPaulRevere

Four days until the insanity commences...sigh.

my advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

/i am.

94 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:26:32am

re: #93 redc1c4

my advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

/i am.

And don't stop until Caturday.

95 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:26:58am

re: #90 Sharmuta

In the middle of his speech, he resigns. Welcome President Biden.

I still think it would've been funny to have Bush resign, have Cheney become president, appoint Condi Rice as his vice-president, and then have Cheney resign. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome the first US black president, Condaleeza Rice!

(Yeah, that pesky 25th amendment thing pretty much prevents this, but it's fun to think about!)

96 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:27:23am

re: #76 Sharmuta

An lolcat for red

you are too kind.

/dinged and hearted

97 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:28:51am

re: #96 redc1c4

I'm glad you liked it.

98 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:29:18am

re: #89 gmsc

We are getting a consolation prize, if you will. Newspapers around the country are collapsing at a speed no one predicted: Minn. StarTribune Files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy [Link: newsbusters.org...]

99 steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:29:34am

re: #95 gmsc

I still think it would've been funny to have Bush resign, have Cheney become president, appoint Condi Rice as his vice-president, and then have Cheney resign. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome the first US black president, Condaleeza Rice!

(Yeah, that pesky 25th amendment thing pretty much prevents this, but it's fun to think about!)

This problem:
Section 2.
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

100 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:29:47am

re: #94 Sharmuta

And don't stop until Caturday.

maybe a caturday in 2012...

how long before Juggy raises booze taxes to pay for his bullshit?

101 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:29:50am

re: #94 Sharmuta

And don't stop until Caturday.

Sharmuta - a question only you can answer:

Monday's child is fair of face,
Tuesday's child is full of grace,
Wednesday's child is full of woe,
Thursday's child has far to go.
Friday's child is loving and giving . . .

What are the qualities of Caturday's child?

102 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:30:30am

re: #89 gmsc

Can't you substitute Franken non-sense for the real thing? It's supposed to be cloudy-but won't the skies part to 'shine the light' upon the one?

Is he really planning to be sworn in with a Top Hat, with a podium made to look as if it's constructed of logs? I heard that a while back, but couldn't find out if it was for real.

103 steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:31:18am

Caturday'a child is full of Scotch

104 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:31:33am

re: #98 MrPaulRevere

We are getting a consolation prize, if you will. Newspapers around the country are collapsing at a speed that no one in the business could've foreseen, but everyone who read those papers predicted: Minn. StarTribune Files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy [Link: newsbusters.org...]

FTFY
;)

105 NervyNews  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:32:08am
106 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:32:47am

re: #102 Pietr

Can't you substitute Franken non-sense for the real thing? It's supposed to be cloudy-but won't the skies part to 'shine the light' upon the one?

Is he really planning to be sworn in with a Top Hat, with a podium made to look as if it's constructed of logs? I heard that a while back, but couldn't find out if it was for real.

I hear he's planning to eat seafood, or sea kittens, or whatever, because that's what Lincoln ate after his inauguration.

107 steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:33:41am

re: #105 GNIDAthe#seCond

WTF is this?

Jusst some college kids trying to set a new world record for the number of fake news stories in a car.

108 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:34:24am

re: #103 steve

Caturday'a child is full of Scotch

Doesn't rhyme with the line, "Friday's child is loving and giving . . ."

(I know, I know - That's how full of Scotch Caturday's child is!)

109 x-wing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:34:52am

re: #105 GNIDAthe#seCond

WTF is this?

They are getting a little hard up on the propaganda front,wouldn't you say. LOL

110 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:35:17am

re: #98 MrPaulRevere

We are getting a consolation prize, if you will. Newspapers around the country are collapsing at a speed no one predicted: Minn. StarTribune Files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy [Link: newsbusters.org...]

both the Seattle PI & Times are in trouble, as is the NYT, and Murdoc's chain, and...

no great loss in my book with any of them.

111 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:13am

re: #101 gmsc

That reminds me of Zeller's Algorithm.

I'm a Thursday Child.

112 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:20am

re: #103 steve

Caturday'a child is full of Scotch ethanol.

FTFY!

113 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:35am

Too awesome: How do IDF soldiers shield themselves from grenades? By using Hamas soldiers as human shields!

(See above link for video!)

Had to add the translation again as it wasnt part of the video file.

"Soldiers from the IDF Golani Infantry Division get ambushed by terrorists and respond by killing them."

You don't expect to see anything like this anywhere other than in the movies. Fair play to the IDF soldier, takes some guts to do that. Speaking of which I'd imagine there is a fair amount spread over the desert after that grenade went off.

114 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:53am

re: #105 GNIDAthe#seCond

WTF is this?

If they close that door-someones going to get all his fingers busted...

115 steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:37:30am

re: #108 gmsc

Doesn't rhyme with the line, "Friday's child is loving and giving . . ."

(I know, I know - That's how full of Scotch Caturday's child is!)

okay, okay, Caturday's child is full of wine or whine.

116 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:39am

re: #105 GNIDAthe#seCond

WTF is this?

it's a great way to reduce the load on your triage staff.

otherwise minor or survivable injuries become fatalities before they get to the treatment site. what a brilliant medical innovation!

/white phosphorus smoke

117 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:40:07am

re: #108 gmsc

re: #103 steve


Doesn't rhyme with the line, "Friday's child is loving and giving . . ."

(I know, I know - That's how full of Scotch Caturday's child is!)

Is Dustyvet still around-he might know? He's a Saturdays child, remember-I'm Wednesdays child of woe...

118 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:40:48am

re: #113 gmsc

Too awesome: How do IDF soldiers shield themselves from grenades? By using Hamas soldiers as human shields!

(See above link for video!)

undoubtedly a war crimes violation of some sort...

119 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:41:33am

re: #111 Sharmuta

That reminds me of Zeller's Algorithm.

I'm a Thursday Child.

I'm a Monday child!

BTW, I do the Day of the Week For Any Date in my head (I've got it down where I can give the day in about 3 seconds now).

As a matter of fact, for my birthday yesterday, I got a Rubik's Cube Calendar from a friend. He suggested I ask people their birthdays, and then solve the cube so that it shows the correct date and day of the week for them. (Did I mention I like puzzles?)

120 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:45:03am

re: #89 gmsc

My buddies and I have been making jokes about possible inauguration events:

• About 15 minutes after being sworn in, 0bama will walk across the Potomac

• 3 wise men/kings will give gifts of gold and myrrh to 0bama. Unfortunately, they couldn't find any Franken sense.

Any others?

I'm not the one who originally floated this one. Thank a different lizard(forgot who) for this but I really liked it.
Bush smiles politely through Obama's entire inauguration speech. Claps politely at the end. Reaches over at the end to shake hands and Bush whispers in Obama's ear "I ordered the navy and airforce to bomb Iran 5 minutes before you started speaking. Good luck Bro. "

121 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:45:39am

re: #119 gmsc

you do know that they now have medications for things like that?

122 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:46:36am

re: #120 Neo Con since 9-11

I'm not the one who originally floated this one. Thank a different lizard(forgot who) for this but I really liked it.
Bush smiles politely through Obama's entire inauguration speech. Claps politely at the end. Reaches over at the end to shake hands and Bush whispers in Obama's ear "I ordered the navy and airforce to bomb Iran 5 minutes before you started speaking. Good luck Bro. "

would that it be true.

123 BakaRanger  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:47:41am

After all said and done, will we have a nuclear Iran to contend with now? It appears that the only country who was willing to do the dirty work and stop them was denied permission to do so.

124 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:47:55am

re: #102 Pietr

Can't you substitute Franken non-sense for the real thing? It's supposed to be cloudy-but won't the skies part to 'shine the light' upon the one?

Is he really planning to be sworn in with a Top Hat, with a podium made to look as if it's constructed of logs? I heard that a while back, but couldn't find out if it was for real.

Oh, Franken nonsense we have plenty of!

I'm not sure about the top hat and log podium, but I wouldn't be surprised. 0bama is all about nothing more than image and reputation (Hey, when you completely lack character, what else are you supposed to do?).

re: #120 Neo Con since 9-11

I'm not the one who originally floated this one. Thank a different lizard(forgot who) for this but I really liked it.

Bush smiles politely through Obama's entire inauguration speech. Claps politely at the end. Reaches over at the end to shake hands and Bush whispers in Obama's ear "I ordered the navy and airforce to bomb Iran 5 minutes before you started speaking. Good luck Bro. "

Works for me!

125 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:48:05am

re: #89 gmsc

My buddies and I have been making jokes about possible inauguration events:

• About 15 minutes after being sworn in, 0bama will walk across the Potomac

• 3 wise men/kings will give gifts of gold and myrrh to 0bama. Unfortunately, they couldn't find any Franken sense.

Any others?

i doubt the WAB will allow any mirth in the White House... she doesn't seem the type.

BTW: what color do you think they'll have the typical White House painted?

126 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:48:50am

re: #121 redc1c4

you do know that they now have medications for things like that?

:P~~~

127 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:48:57am

re: #125 redc1c4

BTW: what color do you think they'll have the typical White House painted?

Commie Pink.

128 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:50:07am

re: #127 Sharmuta

Commie Pink.

pay to play green?

129 Steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:50:51am

Okay, I am a Thursday Child. Now What?

[Link: osulibrary.orst.edu...]

130 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:51:17am

re: #105 GNIDAthe#seCond

WTF is this?

Muslims are not particular respectful of maximum occupancy limits on vehicles. I once, when I was driving charter busses, ended up driving a 54 person capacity bus with over a hundred muslims on board. Nothing I could have done to keep them off short of calling the riot police.

131 NervyNews  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:51:51am

re: #113 gmsc

Note, this video is not from the current war in Gaza. It was originally posted in 2007, so probably it's from the Second Lebanon War.

132 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:51:58am

re: #121 redc1c4

you do know that they now have medications for things like that?

So, I'm guessing that things like my ability to recall Pi to 400 digits after the decimal point, and perform an 8x8 Knight's Tour given any 2 squares of opposite color as a starting and ending point, aren't your cup of tea?

133 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:52:29am

re: #129 Steve

Okay, I am a Thursday Child. Now What?

[Link: osulibrary.orst.edu...]

You have far to go . . .

134 NervyNews  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:53:14am

re: #131 GNIDAthe#seCond

Note, this video is not from the current war in Gaza. It was originally posted in 2007, so probably it's from the Second Lebanon War.

But still amazing...

135 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:54:02am

re: #105 GNIDAthe#seCond

WTF is this?

It's the all-too-rarely-seen Palestinian Feast of Maximum Occupancy.

136 Steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:54:21am

re: #132 gmsc

So, I'm guessing that things like my ability to recall Pi to 400 digits after the decimal point, and perform an 8x8 Knight's Tour given any 2 squares of opposite color as a starting and ending point, aren't your cup of tea?

Yes, but can you tie your shoes?

137 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:58:19am

re: #127 Sharmuta

McCarthyism! /

138 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:58:32am

Damn it- I was joking when I said last year that the media would be lining up at the trough for those TARP funds, but given the current state of affairs with the Seattle Post Intelligencer, Chicago Tribune, New York Times, Minneapolis Star Tribune among others, my snark may become prophecy...

139 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:59:14am

re: #132 gmsc

So, I'm guessing that things like my ability to recall Pi to 400 digits after the decimal point, and perform an 8x8 Knight's Tour given any 2 squares of opposite color as a starting and ending point, aren't your cup of tea?

maybe if my high school algebra teacher had spoken understandable english i'd be more math inclined... what sucks is i have to take Math 115 to get my AA. i've never needed algebra my whole life, except the simple "solve for X' that we use in pharmacy... WTF am i going to do with it at my age?

140 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:01:21am

re: #136 Steve

Yes, but can you tie your shoes?

Well, not in all 1,961,990,553,600 possible ways but I do have a few favorite ways to tie my shoes, such as checkerboard lacing and double helix lacing.

141 Steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:10am

re: #139 redc1c4

maybe if my high school algebra teacher had spoken understandable english i'd be more math inclined... what sucks is i have to take Math 115 to get my AA. i've never needed algebra my whole life, except the simple "solve for X' that we use in pharmacy... WTF am i going to do with it at my age?

Help your grandkids with their math?

142 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:45am

re: #138 Fenway_Nation

Damn it- I was joking when I said last year that the media would be lining up at the trough for those TARP funds, but given the current state of affairs with the Seattle Post Intelligencer, Chicago Tribune, New York Times, Minneapolis Star Tribune among others, my snark may become prophecy...

bet they print lots of articles and editorials about how it won't affect their "independence" and "journalistic integrity".

/spit

143 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:04:17am

re: #142 redc1c4

re: #138 Fenway_Nation


bet they print lots of articles and editorials about how it won't affect their "independence" and "journalistic integrity".

/spit

Think Pinchey Sulzburger will fly down in a private plane?

144 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:04:52am

re: #137 MrPaulRevere

I was being silly but there is a serious point in there. The left always resurrects McCarthy's ghost in order to deflect criticism.

145 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:04:54am

re: #141 Steve

Help your grandkids with their math?


since i don't and won't, it's a non-issue

146 Steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:05:33am

re: #140 gmsc

Well, not in all 1,961,990,553,600 possible ways but I do have a few favorite ways to tie my shoes, such as checkerboard lacing and double helix lacing.

I went to one of my finals in college with one black tennis shoe that had laces and one white white tennis shoe that had velcro. Never did figure it out until my wife pointed it out late in the day.

147 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:06:46am

re: #146 Steve

I went to one of my finals in college with one black tennis shoe that had laces and one white white tennis shoe that had velcro. Never did figure it out until my wife pointed it out late in the day.

i went to many classes barefoot.

148 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:07:09am

re: #142 redc1c4

bet they print lots of articles and editorials about how it won't affect their "independence" and "journalistic integrity".

/spit

They don't need "journalistic integrity"- they have spellcheck.

149 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:07:52am

LMAO. Have you guys heard of this ridiculous FEMA Coffins thing? One of my friends showed this to me today, not believing it, just wanted to get my take on it. I didn't even have the words to come up with an explanation. And now, I'm reading about a group on FB called "Shut Down FEMA Camps".

LOL, this stuff is hilarious.

Shut Down FEMA Camps

Do people seriously buy into this?

150 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:08:06am

re: #139 redc1c4

maybe if my high school algebra teacher had spoken understandable english i'd be more math inclined... what sucks is i have to take Math 115 to get my AA. i've never needed algebra my whole life, except the simple "solve for X' that we use in pharmacy... WTF am i going to do with it at my age?

Well, there's always the guy who saved money on pizza by using geometry!

Which reminds me of this puzzle from my geometry class:

Given a pizza with a radius of z and a thickness of a, what would be the formula for the volume of the pizza?

Pi*z*z*a!

151 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:08:15am

re: #140 gmsc

Well, not in all 1,961,990,553,600 possible ways but I do have a few favorite ways to tie my shoes, such as checkerboard lacing and double helix lacing.

that reminds me all too much of Drill Sargents who had nothing better to do than come up with silly ways to lace up our boots...

152 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:08:20am

re: #142 redc1c4

bet they print lots of articles and editorials about how it won't affect their "independence" and "journalistic integrity".

Also forgot to add that something that doesn't exists cannot be affected under that (or any) scenario.

It's like reassuring me that a lower speed limit in town will help save the lives of countless smurfs who cross the street.

153 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:09:57am

I mentioned I was a Wednesdays child of woe; but, so are both my wife and daughter...gotta be some long odds there, and a lot of woe...:>(

154 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:10:02am

re: #139 redc1c4

what sucks is i have to take Math 115 to get my AA.


That does suck. All I've ever had to do to get my AA chip is tell them I'd stopped drinking for more then 24 hours.
/white smoke right back at ya

155 Steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:11:23am

re: #147 redc1c4

i went to many classes barefoot.

Right now I would love to be 30 years younger and back in college.

156 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:12:43am

re: #153 Pietr

I mentioned I was a Wednesdays child of woe; but, so are both my wife and daughter...gotta be some long odds there, and a lot of woe...:>(

Keanu Reeves responds.

(Hey, how about another Superman movie, but with Keanu Reeves in the starring role? Then we'd have Superman played by George Reeves, Christopher Reeve, and Keanu Reeves!)

157 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:14:47am

re: #153 Pietr

I mentioned I was a Wednesdays child of woe; but, so are both my wife and daughter...gotta be some long odds there, and a lot of woe...:>(

It's just a silly poem.

158 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:14:50am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

A very fast Lizard has posted this already in the spin-off links, but it is worth re-posting:

7:22AM: Israellycool exclusive: The Foreign Press Association has boycotted the IDF spokesman’s unit, sending the following letter to its members and the IDF spokesman’s unit:

From: The Foreign Press Association [fpa1@netvision.net.il]

Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:27 PM

To:

Subject: Urgent notice to members

The FPA rejects and condemns the IDF policy of controlling the news coverage of the events in Gaza. by preventing the entry of foreign journalists into Gaza and bombing buildings housing offices of international media - contrary to IDF assurances that these media buildings would be safe - the IDF is severely violating basic principles of respect for press freedom.
As a result of these unconscionable breaches, the FPA calls on all its members not to broadcast or print stills and videos the IDF provides as a substitute to independent reporting - until such time the IDF issues a formal apology for the attacks on the media buildings and offers assurances that no such event will occur in the future.

The Foreign Press Association

[Link: www.fpa.org.il...]

[Link: www.israellycool.com...]


Oh dear - dunno where to start ...

159 freetoken  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:15:54am

re: #149 TheMatrix31

FEMA is a favorite boogeyman for late night talk radio callers...

Meanwhile, in the real world, one would be lucky to get a gallon of water from FEMA the first week after a natural disaster.

160 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:16:37am

re: #149 TheMatrix31

LMAO. Have you guys heard of this ridiculous FEMA Coffins thing? One of my friends showed this to me today, not believing it, just wanted to get my take on it. I didn't even have the words to come up with an explanation. And now, I'm reading about a group on FB called "Shut Down FEMA Camps".

LOL, this stuff is hilarious.

Shut Down FEMA Camps

Do people seriously buy into this?

there's a lot of crackheads out there...

(after all, Juggy got elected. %-)

161 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:17:53am

re: #158 yma o hyd

IDF response should be "then quit giving Hamasholes the keys to your buildings, so they can attack us from them"...

162 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:18:58am

Yeah, seriously. The same FEMA that "FAILED" under the corrupt Bush administration right?!?!

These people are unfathomably stupid.

163 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:20:19am

re: #149 TheMatrix31

LMAO. Have you guys heard of this ridiculous FEMA Coffins thing? One of my friends showed this to me today, not believing it, just wanted to get my take on it. I didn't even have the words to come up with an explanation. And now, I'm reading about a group on FB called "Shut Down FEMA Camps".

LOL, this stuff is hilarious.

Shut Down FEMA Camps

Do people seriously buy into this?

My favorite phrase from that link:

. . . part of a water facility. Now why would there be a facility of this nature out in the middle of nowhere with absolutely no prisoners?

Yeah, why would we have a water facility out in the more natural areas without any prisoners present? Could it be because it's near a source of . . . (wait for it!) . . . water?!?

164 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:20:49am
165 freetoken  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:21:09am

I'd put this up in the spin-offs but I'm always afraid of putting too much business stuff up there (it bores people.) Yet, it is important:

U.S. `Bad Bank' Plan Gets Momentum to Revive Lending

Jan. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Renewed questions about U.S. banks' viability are pushing regulators toward a new plan that would remove toxic assets from bank balance sheets, in what may become the biggest effort yet to unfreeze lending.

President-elect Barack Obama's advisers see an increasingly grave banking crisis and are considering proposals far more sweeping than any steps that have been taken so far, according to people who've discussed the outlook with them.

[...]

Paul Miller, a bank analyst at Friedman Billings Ramsey & Co. in Arlington, Virginia, estimates that financial institutions need as much as $1.2 trillion in new aid.[...]

166 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:21:27am

re: #159 freetoken

FEMA is a favorite boogeyman for late night talk radio callers...

Meanwhile, in the real world, one would be lucky to get a gallon of water from FEMA the first week after a natural disaster.

as seen in Louisiana, the city/county has to declare a disaster before the state can step in, and the state has to declare a disaster before the Feds can come in. if either or both drop the ball on doing so, the Fed's hands are tied by law.

FEMA is *not* supposed to be a first responder, and it's stupid for people to think otherwise. you're supposed to have at least 3 days of water yourself, then local supplies are supposed to help out.

personally, unless it's cracked or all sloshed out, we're planning on drinking the swimming pool.

167 gmsc  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:22:46am

Good night, all!

I work later today, so I'd better get all the sleep I can now.

168 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:22:53am

re: #161 Pietr

IDF response should be "then quit giving Hamasholes the keys to your buildings, so they can attack us from them"...

Fat chance the FPA accepting this. I just saw on their website that their current chairman is an AP guy.

It might, just possibly, have helped their 'cause' if they weren't so blatantly supporting the Hamas propaganda even when reporting from Israel.

169 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:23:01am
170 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:23:08am

re: #158 yma o hyd

Oh dear - dunno where to start ...

What about the freedom hamas allows the press?

171 songbird  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:23:21am

re: #139 redc1c4

Get an algebra book, study the parts you are having trouble with and retake the test.

When I was in community college and was told I had to take pre algebra I thought "Over my dead body" and studied. Focus on square roots and using the radical symbol. You probably have the rest down already.

172 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:23:55am

re: #165 freetoken

I'd put this up in the spin-offs but I'm always afraid of putting too much business stuff up there (it bores people.) Yet, it is important:

U.S. `Bad Bank' Plan Gets Momentum to Revive Lending

how long before the Treasury needs a bailout to buy new printing presses?

173 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:25:17am

re: #171 songbird

Get an algebra book, study the parts you are having trouble with and retake the test.

When I was in community college and was told I had to take pre algebra I thought "Over my dead body" and studied. Focus on square roots and using the radical symbol. You probably have the rest down already.

i need the units to get my degree, so i can be hired to teach my field.

gonna apply that good Army training and just suck it up.

/don't have to like it though %-)

174 songbird  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:27:05am

re: #173 redc1c4

i need the units to get my degree, so i can be hired to teach my field.

gonna apply that good Army training and just suck it up.

/don't have to like it though %-)

Well, you have to do what you have to do! What field will you be teaching?

175 Render  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:27:37am

re: #105 GNIDAthe#seCond

Mobile car swarm. An innovative new asymmetric tactic.

Reactive Human Armor for a HAMAS command vehicle, somewhere in that pile is a HAMAS leader on his way to the HAMAS Hospital Command Center.

===

re: #158 yma o hyd

That leaves it up to us, doesn't it?

THE
WORD,
R

176 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:28:02am

they claimed there was one in the SFV, and that you could see it from a restaurant, so i googled the addy...

find the prison...

i couldn't.

/surprise!

177 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:28:29am

re: #169 ploome hineni

Israel should kidnap a few journalists and forceably convert them to Judiasm

/that'll show em

On the website of the FPA [Link: www.fpa.org.il...] one can see that there are a lot of what, on first glance, I'd say are Jewish names.

I think that lot is in the camp of Jewish Libtards who are feeling guilty for the existence of Israel ...

Ok - if I'm wrong I apologize, but I really don't get how people living in Israel can jab daggers into the back of the IDF.

178 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:28:30am

re: #174 songbird

Well, you have to do what you have to do! What field will you be teaching?

pharmacy technicians

179 freetoken  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:28:34am

re: #139 redc1c4

WTF am i going to do with it at my age?


If Ben has X number of banks with Y number of bad loans, and Barrack has Z number of citizens with $ amount of assets, which will come first: (1) bread will cost $100 per loaf, (2) bread will cost $.10 per loaf, (3) bread will be outlawed.

180 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:28:38am
181 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:28:59am

On roostercam, on top of the bottom left building-we have peeps wandering around! Hasn't anyone told them it isn't safe to play on the roofs?

182 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:29:14am

re: #169 ploome hineni

Okay, that neutralized my Wednesday childness. ;-)

plooomie! :-)

183 Steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:29:20am

re: #159 freetoken

FEMA is a favorite boogeyman for late night talk radio callers...

Meanwhile, in the real world, one would be lucky to get a gallon of water from FEMA the first week after a natural disaster.

Actually, when you see footage of a natural disaster in the US and the people who are cooking the food, serving it, providing clean showers and in some cases places to sleep are not Red Cross volunteers. They are part of the
NAMB

184 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:29:39am
185 Pigtown Water Dog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:30:17am

re: #50 Sharmuta

I voted 5 for your lolz last night. Thanks for the "red brand" this morning. Kitteh looks like I wish I felt! ;D Sadly, no fruit cup for me this morning...

186 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:30:23am
187 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:30:26am

re: #170 Sharmuta

What about the freedom hamas allows the press?

Heh.
Thats different, innit, like ... they're 'oppressed', they can't be expected to allow critical reporting during their fight ...

188 Render  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:31:16am

re: #164 ploome hineni

Mornin Ploomage

I think that was a Charles post a couple of days ago. Doesn't hurt to repeat it though...

STAINED
CLASS,
R

189 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:32:30am

re: #175 Render

Yep - and not just here on LGF.
Gotta fire off complaints at the various MFM: someone will read them!

190 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:33:22am

re: #183 Steve

Actually, when you see footage of a natural disaster in the US and the people who are cooking the food, serving it, providing clean showers and in some cases places to sleep are not Red Cross volunteers. They are part of the
NAMB

the Red Cross are a bunch of crooks, IMNSHO. their overhead is ridiculous, and they way they handle the blood products market ought to be criminal.

you want bang for your charity buck? donate to the Salvation Army.

191 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:35:05am
192 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:35:07am

re: #185 Pigtown Water Dog

Thanks- I'm glad you enjoy them. :)

193 Steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:35:50am

re: #190 redc1c4

Check the link out, if you haven't. We partner with the red cross and other orgs. We were there when Katrina hit.

194 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:36:01am

re: #181 Pietr

On roostercam, on top of the bottom left building-we have peeps wandering around! Hasn't anyone told them it isn't safe to play on the roofs?

I think its because right now the IDF has again stopped all activities for 'humanitarian' reasons.
Its from 10 am to 2 pm Israeli time.

Meanwhile, the hamassholes have already sent at least three humanitarian, nagging missiles into Israel ...

195 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:36:37am

fruitcup is all ready, so i'm for bed... tell LoL i said "hi" and that it's gonna be 80* here tomorrow.

might as well start her day off right. %-)

hasta, y'all...

L8r!

196 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:38:01am

BIAB

197 Steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:38:11am

re: #190 redc1c4

And we do not take a dime from the govt.

General Disaster Relief Fund

The North American Mission Board, along with state Baptist convention leaders, has taken the lead in organizing Southern Baptists to respond to disasters. They contribute manpower, ministry, and financial help during floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, fires, earthquakes, and urban disasters. NAMB uses Disaster Relief donations for meeting human needs as a priority and of sharing the Gospel and/or starting churches as part of NAMB's overall disaster relief ministry once these priorities are met. Donations to this fund may be used for multiple disaster responses as needs arise.

198 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:38:16am

re: #188 Render

Render-I left you a note in the last thread-post 665. Charles had a thread (about 8 or 9 threads back) on the techno-geek stuff they installed earlier yesterday...

199 Steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:39:05am

re: #195 redc1c4

fruitcup is all ready, so i'm for bed... tell LoL i said "hi" and that it's gonna be 80* here tomorrow.

might as well start her day off right. %-)

hasta, y'all...

L8r!

have a good one!

200 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:39:19am

re: #190 redc1c4

My parents claim they get the most bang for their charity buck from Catholic Relief Services...I think pop crunched some numbers to back it up.

201 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:40:15am

re: #195 redc1c4

Shaddup!

202 Steve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:41:28am

0140 in the am might as well amble off to bed to see if I can get some sleep.

nite all.

203 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:42:16am

re: #200 Fenway_Nation

My parents claim they get the most bang for their charity buck from Catholic Relief Services...I think pop crunched some numbers to back it up.

could be: i just know that the Red Cross is nasty, and the SA has a rep for frugality... not surprising that the other religious groups would be similar.

204 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:44:01am
205 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:44:13am

re: #201 littleoldlady

Shaddup!

could be worse!

/white smoke

(gone for sure this time... party on! %-)

206 Render  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:44:20am

View Southwards...

Lots of movement on the roof tops.

Lots of auto and pedestrian traffic on the streets.

Still no sound.

Looks like the UNRWA compound is still smouldering.

Can't tell if that's the morning mist rolling in or a huge cloud of dust in the distance.

ALL
QUIET,
R

207 astronmr20  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:45:13am

re: #200 Fenway_Nation

My parents claim they get the most bang for their charity buck from Catholic Relief Services...I think pop crunched some numbers to back it up.

Both they, and Christian Childrens' fund.

208 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:46:47am

Oh, and BTW, red...

I have come to the unfortunate conclusion that some people are genetically predisposed to being good at math and some are not. You can blame your high school algebra teacher if you want, but it will do little good. The only solution is to get a tutor and do as many problems as you can so that the processes become second nature. You have to put in the time. Period.

/payback, Mr "it's going to be 80°" is a biatch, no? ;-)

209 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:47:33am

re: #194 yma o hyd

Good point-I also see more vehicle traffic and pedestrians wandering around on ground level-something we haven't seen a lot of before. Still no sound-wonder if they're waiting until the ice cream trucks stop selling and playing their music, before restoring it?

210 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:49:21am

re: #204 Sharmuta

Bwahahaha!

211 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:50:15am

Littleoldady, if it helps, I live in this hellhole too and can't stand the heat.

212 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:53:46am

re: #211 TheMatrix31

Trade ya?

213 Render  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:54:28am

Fingers are waiting all over the country to hit the Fruitcup button...

TENSED,
R

214 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:54:57am

Hmmm...looked like one of our roof guys was pulling up a rope hooked to something-and Achmed blanked the bottom inch of screen and hid it...

215 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:56:00am

This computer is so messed up I hope I CAN get fruitcup on the buffet in a timely matter. :-(

216 freetoken  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:59:13am

re: #208 littleoldlady


/payback, Mr "it's going to be 80°" is a biatch, no? ;-)

I think Red has left the building, no? Anyway, yes, as someone who has majored in mathematics I can second the notion - one has to do the problems. There is no way around it.

BTW, where I am at (a bit south of Red I believe) it has been 85F this past week...

217 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:00:01am

re: #215 littleoldlady

This computer is so messed up I hope I CAN get fruitcup on the buffet in a timely matter. :-(

What's wrong with it, lol?

218 astronmr20  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:00:03am

Fruitcup?

219 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

220 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:00:36am

Thanks, littleoldlady!

221 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:01:05am

re: #212 littleoldlady

Trade ya?

For sure. I think cold fruit is better than warm fruit, though.

222 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:01:25am

manner.

re: #216 freetoken

85°? Thanks so much. :-( :-( :-(

223 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:03:02am

Thank you, littleoldlady...I'm surprised I'm still up...:>))

224 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:03:30am

Pietr! :-)

It's dead, Jim. Jim, it's dead.

Sharmuta! :-)

Matrix! :-)

astronmr20! :-)

225 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:04:07am

Roostercam has what appears to be a close up of a market square-lots of pedestrians...

226 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:05:28am

Dorothy-this doesn't appear to be Gaza anymore...

227 Render  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:09:06am

Gaza Strip, not Gaza City. Looks like thats the city over the horizon.

UNRWA compound area?

EH
COULD
BE,
R

228 Pigtown Water Dog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:11:27am

Oh, thank heavens I was able to get into the "lucky" fruitcup line this morning. Enjoyed the visit, all. Have to go to (groan) work, in the (groan) cold.

229 Pietr  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:12:17am

re: #227 Render

The roof at the lower left-above that fortified wall-is full of people, and it looked like some market stalls...

230 freetoken  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:13:30am

re: #222 littleoldlady

... and not a cloud in the sky.

Oh, thanks for the fruitcup... it'll be my snack as I finish watching F is for Fake via Youtube. An interesting moving that I've only seen snippets from before now. That movie seems strikingly relevant for these times.

231 tappin52  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:25:14am

It is -7 degrees F here in the woods of Sullivan Co. in NY. The outdoor wood furnace is keeping my house nice and warm, though. With no heat bills to boot! Hot water for free, too.

232 Buster Bunny  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:27:53am

Ok you know you are popular when they start calling for your head.

Death to Buster Bunny ! (actual headlines)

I'm a wanted Sylvilagus brasiliensis !

233 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:34:26am

re: #219 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Morning Lizards. Late again. Thanks lol. Hope there is some left.

234 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:42:03am

Hello is anyone here?

235 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:43:40am

A businessman boards a flight and is seated next to a

gorgeous woman. He notices she is reading a manual about sexual statistics.

He asks her about it and she replies, "This is a very interesting book. It says that American Indians have the longest penises and Greek men are the best in bed. By the way, my name is Jill. What's yours?"

"Tonto Papadopoulos, nice to meet you."

236 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:43:44am

Erik! :-)

Nu, vuh den?

/but of course!

237 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:44:36am

One night, as a couple lays down for bed, the husband starts rubbing his wife's arm.

The wife turns over and says "I'm sorry honey, I've got a gynecologist appointment tomorrow and I want to stay fresh."

The husband, rejected, turns over. A few minutes later, he rolls back over and taps his wife again.

"Do you have a dentist appointment tomorrow too?"

238 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:56:41am

Thread killer!

239 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:00:02am

Giving up on this old machine... :-(

Good day, ALL!™

240 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:03:21am

re: #237 Erik The Red

One night, as a couple lays down for bed, the husband starts rubbing his wife's arm.

The wife turns over and says "I'm sorry honey, I've got a gynecologist appointment tomorrow and I want to stay fresh."

The husband, rejected, turns over. A few minutes later, he rolls back over and taps his wife again.

"Do you have a dentist appointment tomorrow too?"

LOL.

241 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:06:12am

Code blue on the LNDT code blue.

242 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:07:05am

Morning all. It's 12 degrees and dark here in lovely historic Alexandria VA.

243 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:07:58am

re: #241 Erik The Red

Code blue on the LNDT code blue.

Coors light?

244 unclassifiable  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:08:59am

re: #219 littleoldlady

¡Gracias!

245 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:09:06am

re: #243 Fenway_Nation

Coors light?

Sounds good to me. Ice cold please its is in the low 90's here today.

246 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:11:05am

Erik, you're on a roll. Don't stop.

247 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:12:53am

re: #245 Erik The Red


How 'bout I get you some tap water in a dixie cup- since the difference between that and C00rs light is indistinguishable in my mind's eye.

248 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:13:12am

Good Morning LGF.
I just heard a statement at a press conference by Ban Ki-Moon in Ramallah in which he called for a "unilateral ceasefire" while the ceasefire negotiations continue.
What an idiot.

249 unclassifiable  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:14:38am

Finished fruitcup. Hitting Rosetta Stone. Back Later.

¡Adios!

/still trying to figure out spelling with the accents

250 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:17:26am

re: #247 Fenway_Nation

How 'bout I get you some tap water in a dixie cup- since the difference between that and C00rs light is indistinguishable in my mind's eye.

I was going to say the same but it is against my principles to turn down a free drink.

251 mbruce  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:18:51am

Going from Ft Lauderdale to Boston today, yay. On another note, I actually went hiking a few times with Sully, the pilot of the plane that went down yesterday.He is cool and his wife is gorgeous, he da man!

252 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:19:37am

re: #246 Jim in Virginia

Erik, you're on a roll. Don't stop.

OK.
One day, during a lesson on proper grammar, the teacher asked for a show of hands for who could use the word 'beautiful' in the same sentence twice.
First, she called on little Suzie, who responded with, "My father bought my mother a beautiful dress and she looked beautiful in it."
"Very good, Suzie," replied the teacher. She then called on little Michael.
"My mommy planned a beautiful banquet and it turned out beautifully," he said.
"Excellent, Michael!" Then, the teacher called on Little Johnny.
"Last night, at the dinner table, my sister told my father that she was pregnant, and he said, 'Beautiful, just fucking beautiful!'"

253 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:19:43am

re: #247 Fenway_Nation

re: #245 Erik The Red


How 'bout I get you some tap water in a dixie cup- since the difference between that and C00rs light is indistinguishable in my mind's eye.

BIG DIXIE CUPS ARE RIPPING US OFF.

254 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:20:58am

A teacher cautiously approaches the subject of sex education with her fourth grade class because she realizes Little Johnny's propensity for sexual innuendo. But Johnny remains attentive throughout the entire lecture.
Finally, towards the end of the lesson, the teacher asks for examples of sex education from the class.
One little boy raises his hand, "I saw a bird in her nest with some eggs."
"Very good, William," said the teacher.
"My mommy had a baby," said little Esther.
"Oh, that's nice," replied the teacher. Finally, little Johnny raises his hand. With much fear and trepidation, the teacher calls on him.
"I was watchin' TV yesterday, and I saw the Lone Ranger. He was surrounded by hundreds and hundreds of Indians. And they all attacked at one time. And he killed every one of them with his two guns."
The teacher was relieved but puzzled, "And what does that have to do with sex education, Johnny?"
" It'll teach those Indians not to fuck with the Lone Ranger."

255 akak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:22:12am

re: #247 Fenway_Nation

re: #245 Erik The Red


How 'bout I get you some tap water in a dixie cup- since the difference between that and C00rs light is indistinguishable in my mind's eye.

Baseball water in convenient cans!

256 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:24:23am

oops.
"Doc," says Steve, "I want to be castrated."
"What on earth for?" asks the doctor in amazement.
"It's something I've been thinking about for a long time and I want to have it done" replies Steve.
"But have you thought it through properly?" asks the doctor, "It's a very serious operation and once it's done, there's no going back. It will change your life forever!"
"I'm aware of that and you're not going to change my mind; either you book me in to be castrated or I'll simply go to another doctor."
"Well, OK.", says the doctor, "But it's against my better judgment!"
So Steve has his operation, and the next day he is up and walking very slowly, legs apart, down the hospital corridor with his drip stand. Heading towards him is another patient, who is walking exactly the same way. "Hi there," says Steve, "It looks as if you've just had the same operation as me."
"Well," said the patient, "I finally decided after 37 years of life that I would like to be circumcised."
Steve stared at him in horror and screamed, "Shit! THAT'S the word!”

257 mbruce  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:25:51am

So on the flight last week I sat next to a woman, she would sneeze and then shudder, did this repeatedly. I asked her if she was OK, she went on to tell me that she suffered from a condition that caused her to have an orgasm when she sneezed. I said, my my, what can you take for that.
She said "pepper"

258 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:26:06am

No up dings? Now I know what a stand up must feel like when he bombs/

259 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:30:58am

re: #258 Erik The Red

No up dings? Now I know what a stand up must feel like when he bombs/

GET OFF THE STAGE, YA BUM!
LOL

260 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:32:20am

Tough crowd tonight. This is for all you snow bunnies.

Dear Diary...

December 8 - 6:00 PM. It started to snow. The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven. It looked like a Grandma Moses Print. So romantic we felt like newlyweds again. I love snow!

December 9 - We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape. What a fantastic sight! Can there be a more lovely place in the Whole World? Moving here was the best idea I've ever had. Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a boy again. I did both our driveway and the sidewalks. This afternoon the snowplow came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again. What a perfect life.

December 12 - The sun has melted all our lovely snow. Such a disappointment. My neighbor tells me not to worry, we'll definitely have a white Christmas. No snow on Christmas would be awful! Bob says we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to see snow again. l don't think that's possible. Bob is such a nice man, I'm glad he's our neighbor.

December 14 - Snow lovely snow! 8" last night. The temperature dropped to -20. The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took my breath away, but I warmed up by shoveling the driveway and sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplow came back this afternoon and buried everything again. I didn't realize I would have to do quite this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back in shape this way. I wish l wouldn't huff and puff so.

December 15 - 20 inches forecast. Sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer. Bought snow tires for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels. Stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out. I think that's silly. We aren't in Alaska, after all.

December 16 - Ice storm this morning. Fell on my ass on the ice in the driveway putting down salt. Hurt like hell. The wife laughed for an hour, Which I think was very cruel.

December 17 - Still way below freezing. Roads are too icy to go anywhere. Electricity was off for 5 hours. I had to pile the blankets on to stay warm. Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her. Guess I should've bought a wood stove, but won't admit it to her. God I hate it when she's right. I can't believe I'm freezing to death in my own living room.

December 20 - Electricity's back on, but had another 14" of the damn stuff last night. More shoveling. Took all day. Goddamn snowplow came by twice. Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they're too busy playing hockey. I think they're lying. Called the only hardware store around to see about buying a snow
blower and they're out. Might have another shipment in March. I think they're lying. Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me. I think he's lying.

December 22 - Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of the white sh#t fell today, and it's so cold it probably won't melt till August. Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to pee. By the time I got undressed, peed and dressed again. I was too tired to shovel. Tried to hire Bob who has a plow on his truck for the rest of the winter; but he says he's too busy. I think the bugger is lying.

261 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:32:59am

CONT...

December 23 - Only 2" of snow today. And it warmed up to 0. The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning. What is she nuts! Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago? She says she did but I think she's lying.

December 24 - 6". Snow packed so hard by snowplow, l broke the shovel. Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the s.o.b who drives that snow plow I'll drag him through the snow by his ankles and beat him to death with my broken shovel. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish
shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been! Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was too busy watching for the damn snowplow.

December 25 - Merry frigging Christmas! 20 more inches of the damn slop tonight. Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil. God I hate the snow! Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude. I think she's a fricking idiot. If I have to watch "It's A Wondeful Life" one more time, I'm going to stuff her into the microwave.

December 26 - Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was all HER idea. She's really getting on my nerves.

December 27 - Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze, plumber came after 14 hours of waiting for him, he only charged me 1,400 to replace all my pipes.

December 28 - Warmed up to above -20. Still snowed in. THE BITCH is driving me crazy!

December 29 - 10 more inches. Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in. That's the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb does he think I am?

December 30 - Roof caved in. I beat up the snow plow driver and he is now suing me for a million dollars not only the beating I gave him but also for trying to shove the broken snow shovel up his ass. The wife went home to her mother. 9" predicted.

December 31 - I set fire to what's left of the house. No more shoveling.

January 8 - Feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed?

262 akak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:33:01am
The Special Additional District Sessions Court (Marad cases) on January 15 sentenced Latheef Assainar, manager of the Juma Masjid (mosque), in Kozhikode, to undergo simple imprisonment for a period of five years and a fine of INR 2000 under Section 7 of the Religious Institutions (for storing arms and ammunition and allowed the entry of the said arms and ammunition into it. “The prosecution has succeeded in proving the Prevention of Misuse Act), 1988. He reportedly used the mosque and its premises contravention of the provisions of Sections 3 and 4 of the Religious Institutions (Prevention of Misuse) Act,” the court said.
263 Buster Bunny  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:36:33am

Two dings for weather, no dings from the crowd with the comedy act Jay Leno

264 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:48:31am

"Doctor, it hurts when I do this."
"So don't do that".

265 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:02:09am
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Turkey's prime minister on Friday said Israel should be barred from the United Nations while it ignores the body's calls to stop fighting in Gaza.

Fuck off, Turkey.

Meanwhile, Ban urged Israel to immediately stop the Gaza operation.
"I strongly urge Israeli leadership and government to declare a ceasefire unilaterally," Ban said in Ramallah. "It's time to think about a
unilateral cease-fire from the Israeli government."

Fuck off, Ban-ki Moonbat.

Death to the UN!

266 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:03:17am

re: #95 gmsc VP appointees need congressional approval.

267 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:03:45am

The Olsen Twins Walk Into a Bar...

268 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:06:00am

Erik, I know they're juvenile, but, I love Little Johnny jokes.

269 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:07:22am

re: #268 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Erik, I know they're juvenile, but, I love Little Johnny jokes.

Good little johnny jokes are great.

270 wahabicorridor  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:07:37am

good morning!

hey, when I click on the 'new comments' box - there's no whirling circle - it just takes me back to the front page.

?

I'll see what happens when I post this.

271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:09:40am

re: #267 Erik The Red

Ever heard Gilbert's version of "The Aristocrats!" joke. The filthiest, raunchiest, nastiest telling of a joke I've ever heard (please do not link it here). I think I would have thought it was funnier if I had not heard it with my mother.

272 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:10:15am

One day in class the teacher brought a bag full of fruit. "Now class, I'm going to reach into the bag and describe a piece of fruit, and you tell what fruit I'm talking about. Okay, first: it's round, plumb and red."
Of course, Johnny raised his hand high, but the teacher, wisely ignored him and picked Deborah, who promptly answered:
"An apple."
"No Deborah, it's a beet, but I like your thinking. Now for the second. It's soft, fuzzy, and colored red and brownish."
Well, Johnny is hopping up and down in his seat trying to get the teacher to call on him. But she skips him again and calls on Billy.
"Is it a peach?"
"No, Billy, I'm afraid it's a potato. But I like your thinking. Here's another: it's long, yellow, and fairly hard." By now Johnny is about to explode as he waves his hand frantically.
The teacher skips him again and calls on Sally.
"A banana," she says.
"No," the teacher replies, "it's a squash, but I like your thinking."
Johnny is kind of irritated now, so he speaks up loudly. "Hey, I've got one for you teacher; let me put my hand in my pocket. Okay, I've got it it's round, hard, and it got a head on it."
"Johnny!" she cries. "That's disgusting!"
"Nope," answers Johnny, "it's a quarter, but I like the way your thinking!"

273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:10:19am

re: #270 wahabicorridor

Magic happens.

274 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:11:16am

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Name is blue please send me the link. Thanks

275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:15:09am

re: #274 Erik The Red

It's on YouTube. (I am ashamed to be talking about it) Never have been able to use the email thingy.

276 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:17:46am

re: #265 Spare O'Lake Hell yeah bar Israel from the UN for defending Itself. Maybe it will provide the incentive for the disbanding of the UN. The UN has served it's purpose now it's trying to make a new one for itself let it die.

277 96RoadKing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:18:11am

Mornin' Lizards.

It's a balmy -20 here. I'm seriously thinking of crawling back under the covers...

278 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:18:42am

re: #253 Spare O'Lake

re: #247 Fenway_Nation


re: #245 Erik The Red



BIG DIXIE CUPS ARE RIPPING US OFF.

The thought of big Dixie cups put a huge smile on my face.
Morning FBV! How cold is it down there by y'all?

279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:19:14am

re: #277 96RoadKing

Mornin' Lizards.

It's a balmy -20 here. I'm seriously thinking of crawling back under the covers...

Took the dog out this morning barefooted. Glad he went fast.

280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:20:13am

re: #278 Jim in Virginia

8 at my house. Could be worse could be, uh, 7.

281 96RoadKing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:20:53am

re: #279 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #277 96RoadKing


Took the dog out this morning barefooted. Glad he went fast.


I did the same thing. Hopping from one foot to the other while muttering imprications to the pee gods and hoping the damn thing didn't find anything interesting to attract her attention...

282 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:21:41am

A Balmy 15 degrees in Atlanta today

283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:21:49am

re: #281 96RoadKing

Could have sworn I heard Rocky say, "Holy shit!"

284 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:21:52am

Good morning

Look for the market to open on the upside and the futures are all up about 1.50%, and the Nikkie and Hang Seng were up significantly overnigPr

285 96RoadKing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:22:10am

re: #282 ThinkRight

A Balmy 15 degrees in Atlanta today


GLOBAL WARMING!

286 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:22:22am

It is 17 below hePr

287 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:23:20am

re: #284 3 wood

Good morning

Look for the market to open on the upside and the futures are all up about 1.50%, and the Nikkie and Hang Seng were up significantly overnigPr


Cool !
Is my Citi stock going to comr back ?

288 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:23:24am

For some reason, my new Apple always has the 2nd to last letter I type show up as a "P". Sorry for the confusioPr

289 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:23:37am

re: #275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's on YouTube. (I am ashamed to be talking about it) Never have been able to use the email thingy.

OMG. That is really bad, even for me. LOL

290 summergurl  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:25:56am

Morning Lizards

291 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:27:28am

Hiya wahabi corridor.
You working Tuesday?

292 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:27:49am

Hey aussie. Great game today. Everything a one day needs. Bad fielding in the last 2 overs cost you guys. Sets the rest of the series up nicely.

293 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:28:06am

re: #287 ThinkRight

Cool !
Is my Citi stock going to comr back ?

In a few years, maybe. It will take a lot of quarters of profit for the stock value to climb back up to $30 a share.

I think the banks have had a lot more damage than many people realize.

The "mark to market" requirement for valuing real estate was really a wrong headed thing to do. You don't value a 20 or 30 year asset based on the spot price of today.

That and the Community Reinvestment Act has really messed things up.

I think there is along way to go before the banks get out of trouble.%Pr

294 apachegunner  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:28:07am

re: #286 3 wood

It is 17 below hePr

little nippy out there huh? its about 22 here in SC, brrr, right?

295 apachegunner  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:28:50am

re: #283 Fat Bastard Vegetarian HEY

296 apachegunner  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:29:08am

re: #292 Erik The Red
morning eric

297 apachegunner  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:29:19am

re: #293 3 wood
3

298 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:29:41am

re: #292 Erik The Red

Hey aussie. Great game today. Everything a one day needs. Bad fielding in the last 2 overs cost you guys. Sets the rest of the series up nicely.

PS thanks for the dings. It has been a rough crowd tonight.

299 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:29:59am

re: #293 3 wood
Thanks
I bought at 5 I think
They will not fold will they ?

300 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:30:30am

re: #296 apachegunner

morning eric

Morning ag.

301 apachegunner  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:30:48am

re: #293 3 wood

re: #287 ThinkRight


In a few years, maybe. It will take a lot of quarters of profit for the stock value to climb back up to $30 a share.

I think the banks have had a lot more damage than many people realize.

The "mark to market" requirement for valuing real estate was really a wrong headed thing to do. You don't value a 20 or 30 year asset based on the spot price of today.

That and the Community Reinvestment Act has really messed things up.

I think there is along way to go before the banks get out of trouble.%Pr


who then profited from the "mark to market" 3? Someone must have made money, was it the gubmit?

302 apachegunner  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:31:28am

re: #298 Erik The Red

re: #292 Erik The Red


PS thanks for the dings. It has been a rough crowd tonight.


I gave ya an upding be happy.

303 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:32:02am

re: #302 apachegunner

I gave ya an upding be happy.

LOL thanks

304 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:34:24am

Good Morning Lizards!

It was -1 when I got in my car to come to work this morning in CT. Expected to get up to a warm 10 to 12 degrees later today. I'm thinking of heading to the beach for a swim.

305 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:36:00am

re: #304 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards!

It was -1 when I got in my car to come to work this morning in CT. Expected to get up to a warm 10 to 12 degrees later today. I'm thinking of heading to the beach for a swim.

Hey Ford swing by my place after work and we can sit by the pool and drink ICE COLD beer.

306 summergurl  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:36:45am

re: #293 3 wood

3-

I am sure you have heard of this index- I expect it will be quite telling-
OMX

It's like we have dug a deep hole and we keep shoveling money into it not realizing how deep the hole is --- or that it has no bottom..

307 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:37:27am

Has that jackass who said he'd prefer another 9-11 to an economic melt down popped his head up this morning?

308 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:37:40am

re: #305 Erik The Red

Hey Ford swing by my place after work and we can sit by the pool and drink ICE COLD beer.

Make that an open invite to all you clod Lizards. Pool party at my place after work. Booze and snacks provided.

309 rightside  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:38:11am

Morning Lizards.

Thank God for Americans like Chesley Sullenberger. A professional through and through. His 40+ years of flying aircraft allowed him to have the wisdom and skill to put the plane down as best he could, saving every passenger.

We salute you sir! God bless you, and God Bless America.

These are the events that stir my heart, and make me proud to be an American.

The next four years are going to be very, very rough.

310 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:38:15am

re: #307 MandyManners

Has that jackass who said he'd prefer another 9-11 to an economic melt down popped his head up this morning?

Who the fuck said that 2M?

311 apachegunner  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:38:32am

re: #304 Ford_Prefect
morning ford

312 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:38:57am

re: #309 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Thank God for Americans like Chesley Sullenberger. A professional through and through. His 40+ years of flying aircraft allowed him to have the wisdom and skill to put the plane down as best he could, saving every passenger.

We salute you sir! God bless you, and God Bless America.

These are the events that stir my heart, and make me proud to be an American.

The next four years are going to be very, very rough.

Utterly amazing that no one was killed.

313 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:39:07am

re: #305 Erik The Red

re: #304 Ford_Prefect


Hey Ford swing by my place after work and we can sit by the pool and drink ICE COLD beer.

*whackwhackwhackwhackwhackwhackwhackwhack*

Didn't think I was around, didja', Erik?

314 summergurl  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:39:24am

re: #307 MandyManners

Has that jackass who said he'd prefer another 9-11 to an economic melt down popped his head up this morning?

Nope - haven't seen the fool...

315 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:40:03am

See #308. I changed the invite for all. LOL

316 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:40:35am

The media makes me sick sometimes.

First to pester. Last to respond with a helping hand. Media vultures at work. Guess they were too busy being “objective” to see a fellow human freezing his buns off right in front of their faces.

The passengers and crew on flight 1549, despite being in mortal danger themselves, did what they could to help one another get off that plane before it sank. People in boats rushed to the scene to help, also putting themselves and their boats at risk. The media, however, climb over each other to crowd around one poor guy who has just gone through hell, and who is standing there in frozen pants, t-shirt and a small cap, freezing his *ss off, and not one of them offers a warm coat or a better hat until they have all gotten their questions in and their video footage. Freaking barbarians!

317 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:40:51am

re: #305 Erik The Red

Hey Ford swing by my place after work and we can sit by the pool and drink ICE COLD beer.

You're on!

318 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:40:52am

So how cold is it at your house Mandy?
Let's beata up AL Gore. Global warming my ass.

319 apachegunner  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:41:26am

re: #309 rightside
said well right

320 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:41:38am

re: #310 Erik The Red

re: #307 MandyManners


Who the fuck said that 2M?

It's No. 2 in the Bottom Comments.

321 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:42:14am

re: #311 apachegunner

morning ford

Morning apache.

322 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:42:26am

re: #307 MandyManners

Has that jackass who said he'd prefer another 9-11 to an economic melt down popped his head up this morning?

Whoever did, should be flogged.

323 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:42:31am

thinking one of these may become my avatar. Probably the first after I add an Al gore tag to it.

324 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:42:32am

re: #318 Jim in Virginia

So how cold is it at your house Mandy?
Let's beata up AL Gore. Global warming my ass.

It's so cold that the spiders would rather face my gut-crunching shoe than the outside.

325 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:43:25am

re: #318 Jim in Virginia

So how cold is it at your house Mandy?
Let's beata up AL Gore. Global warming my ass.

The globe is warming your ass? Wish this chair would warm up mine.

326 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:43:41am

re: #307 MandyManners
I think you ran him off Mandy.

327 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:44:08am

re: #322 Dustyvet

re: #307 MandyManners


Whoever did, should be flogged.

The Lizards were not kind to him.

328 apachegunner  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:44:16am

re: #326 Rustler

re: #307 MandyManners
I think you ran him off Mandy.


would MM do that, yes!

329 apachegunner  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:44:31am

re: #326 Rustler
hi rustler

330 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:44:43am

re: #326 Rustler

re: #307 MandyManners
I think you ran him off Mandy.

I think we all did. Walter let him have both barrels.

331 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:44:55am

re: #329 apachegunner
Morning Gunner

332 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:44:58am

Morning Lizards! It's a delightful 9 degrees of global warming in Philly this morning. My gun froze in my holster, I think.

333 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:45:28am

re: #326 Rustler

I think you ran him off Mandy.

With a dirty big lump on his head, after a good whack from your clue by four!

334 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:45:58am

re: #323 Rustler

thinking one of these may become my avatar. Probably the first after I add an Al gore tag to it.

I have seen that first one before. My understanding is that he is part of a land surveying crew. That is what I do for a living. I have never come that close, but I did have a bear sighting a few years ago.

335 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:46:02am

re: #330 MandyManners Well when you paint a barn door sized target on yourself, you really can't complain when it's used.

336 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:46:25am

re: #325 Ford_Prefect

re: #318 Jim in Virginia


The globe is warming your ass? Wish this chair would warm up mine.

I'm wearing a marvelous house-coat from LL Bean. Nothing can penetrate it. I bet it's even bullet-proof.

337 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:47:31am

re: #320 MandyManners

It's No. 2 in the Bottom Comments.

I just gave him another down ding.

338 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:47:42am

re: #334 Ford_Prefect I've seen bears in the wild almost that close fortuneately they weren't chasing me. But I think the first would be a fun avatar if I put an Al Gore nametag on the poor shmo.

339 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:47:48am

re: #335 Rustler

re: #330 MandyManners Well when you paint a barn door sized target on yourself, you really can't complain when it's used.

Did he think he was being clever and erudite? Talking like a KosKid about Pres. Bush's "cronies" was bad enough but, the rest was just sickening.

340 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:48:25am

re: #337 Ford_Prefect

I just gave him another down ding.

Where can't find the thread.

341 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:48:29am

re: #336 MandyManners
I had on five layers of clothes yesterday and I was still cold indoors.

342 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:49:10am

re: #340 Erik The Red
Go to front page and look at bottom 10 threads link or whatever it's called.

343 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:49:16am

re: #336 MandyManners

I'm wearing a marvelous house-coat from LL Bean. Nothing can penetrate it. I bet it's even bullet-proof.

That might explain why you have been celibate for 9 years.

/just saying

344 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:50:21am

re: #340 Erik The Red

Where can't find the thread.

Top left of this page. Bottom comments.

345 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:50:38am

re: #341 Jim in Virginia

re: #336 MandyManners
I had on five layers of clothes yesterday and I was still cold indoors.

The heat in our division works great . . . in September. Now? Not so much.

346 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:51:29am
347 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:52:00am

re: #345 Wyatt Earp

The heat in our division works great . . . in September. Now? Not so much.

You just have to love the twit who's in charge of the thermostat.

348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:52:08am

re: #339 MandyManners

Love the kiss of death, "I voted for Bush twice and I voted for McCain." Really? In the context of that comment, it doesn't look like a lie.

349 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:52:31am

re: #344 Ford_Prefect

Thanks found it. Going to read the thread.

350 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:52:46am

re: #340 Erik The Red

re: #337 Ford_Prefect


Where can't find the thread.

You can ding the post in the Bottom Comments thread. Click on the post No..

351 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:52:51am

re: #340 Erik The Red Bush Farewell thread Mfarmer is the nic of the dude he has 4 or 5 of the bottom 10.

352 summergurl  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:52:53am

re: #322 Dustyvet

re: #307 MandyManners


Whoever did, should be flogged.

He was ---publicly and repeatedly

It felt good.

353 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:52:57am

re: #347 Dustyvet

re: #345 Wyatt Earp


You just have to love the twit who's in charge of the thermostat.


Well, it's a 40-year old building in a ticy that is in the midst of a $2 Billion deficit. Do the math. :)

354 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:53:07am

re: #349 Erik The Red

Thanks found it. Going to read the thread.

a wee bit of help, I can't find it...:(

355 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:53:13am

re: #353 Wyatt Earp

re: #347 Dustyvet


re: #345 Wyatt Earp


You just have to love the twit who's in charge of the thermostat.


Well, it's a 40-year old building in a ticy that is in the midst of a $2 Billion deficit. Do the math. :)

"City."

PIMF!

356 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:53:43am

re: #341 Jim in Virginia

re: #336 MandyManners
I had on five layers of clothes yesterday and I was still cold indoors.

It's not cold enough for me to wear woolen hose.

357 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:53:47am

re: #353 Wyatt Earp

Well, it's a 40-year old building in a ticy that is in the midst of a $2 Billion deficit. Do the math. :)

Oh...got it...:)

358 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:54:14am

My office stays reasonably warm but the door to our building lobby from the outside has a quarter inch gap. The lobby and restrooms are fifteen degrees colder than the office.
Landlord could invest twenty bucks to seal the door and save a fortune on heating.

359 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:54:24am

re: #343 Ford_Prefect

re: #336 MandyManners


That might explain why you have been celibate for 9 years.

/just saying

Oh, you're good.

360 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:54:33am

re: #354 Dustyvet Bush farewell speech Mfarmer is nic of the moron.

361 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:55:32am

re: #360 Rustler

Bush farewell speech Mfarmer is nic of the moron.

I go looks...Thanks much...Then I down ding the sod.

362 summergurl  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:55:38am

re: #351 Rustler

re: #340 Erik The Red Bush Farewell thread Mfarmer is the nic of the dude he has 4 or 5 of the bottom 10.


methinks he is a rabble rouser...

363 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:55:44am

re: #346 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

On the two party evil money cult.

Congressman Al Green of Texas will re-introduce the "down payment assistance" "fraud" deal today in the House, "bi-partisan" support,
"two party evil money cult".

This "down payment assistance" is one of the main causes of the real estate melt down we are now paying for, they use fake charity deals to
give lender and or Home Builder credits for the down payment.

IT ALLOWS BUYERS TO GET INTO HOMES WITH NO, ZERO DOWN PAYMENT, THE VERY THING THAT CAUSED ALL THESE FORECLOSURES AT THIS TIME...

THIS IS THE EVIL MONEY FROM THE MORTGAGE BROKERS AND HOME BUILDER ASSOCIATIONS BUYING OFF CONGRESS AND SENATE WITH MORE OF THE SAME F'N FRAUD.

DAM THEM TO HELL, OUR CONGRESS IS NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF MONEY LOVING THUGS.

SPIT

What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

364 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:55:55am
365 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:56:29am

re: #348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #339 MandyManners

Love the kiss of death, "I voted for Bush twice and I voted for McCain." Really? In the context of that comment, it doesn't look like a lie.

Maybe he was trying to show how clever he is.

366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:56:37am

I'll be bloggin' in a bit. Wife's having other kidney punched.

367 wahabicorridor  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:57:19am

EVERYTHING I CLICK ON - NEW COMMENTS - REPLY - QUOTE - ALL TAKE ME BACK TO THE FRONT PAGE. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL LET ME STAY ON THE THREAD IS 'POST THIS COMMENT'.

HELP? ANYONE?

Note to Jim in Virginia - We are self employed and work out of our house - the disaster that awaits D.C. on Tues won't affect us at all.

368 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:57:49am

re: #355 Wyatt Earp

Usually I don't notice the need for PIMF but, that "ticy" had me confused.

369 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:57:55am

re: #366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ouch, but tell her the job isn't done til you pee pink.

370 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:58:18am

re: #358 Jim in Virginia

My office stays reasonably warm but the door to our building lobby from the outside has a quarter inch gap. The lobby and restrooms are fifteen degrees colder than the office.
Landlord could invest twenty bucks to seal the door and save a fortune on heating.


Ya know what you need? Heated terlets!

371 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:58:33am

re: #367 wahabicorridor
Try restarting your computer i have that problem on occasion.

372 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:58:40am

re: #358 Jim in Virginia

My office stays reasonably warm but the door to our building lobby from the outside has a quarter inch gap. The lobby and restrooms are fifteen degrees colder than the office.
Landlord could invest twenty bucks to seal the door and save a fortune on heating.

Why don't ya'll install one of those things for the bottoms of doors that're being advertised all over television?

373 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:59:37am

re: #362 summergurl

re: #351 Rustler


re: #340 Erik The Red Bush Farewell thread Mfarmer is the nic of the dude he has 4 or 5 of the bottom 10.


methinks he is a rabble rouser...

It's one thing to rouse the rabble but, to wish for the deaths of 3,000+...

374 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:59:57am

re: #372 MandyManners

re: #358 Jim in Virginia


Why don't ya'll install one of those things for the bottoms of doors that're being advertised all over television?

My wife bought one of those . . . and they work great!

375 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:00:06am

re: #367 wahabicorridor

EVERYTHING I CLICK ON - NEW COMMENTS - REPLY - QUOTE - ALL TAKE ME BACK TO THE FRONT PAGE. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL LET ME STAY ON THE THREAD IS 'POST THIS COMMENT'.

HELP? ANYONE?

Note to Jim in Virginia - We are self employed and work out of our house - the disaster that awaits D.C. on Tues won't affect us at all.

Post one comment then RELOAD.

376 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:00:28am

re: #374 Wyatt Earp

re: #372 MandyManners


re: #358 Jim in Virginia


Why don't ya'll install one of those things for the bottoms of doors that're being advertised all over television?


My wife bought one of those . . . and they work great!

Order one for the office!

377 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:00:45am

Getting coffee bbiab

378 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:01:16am
379 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:01:21am

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

From the same album I think:
Love me, I'm a liberal
I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
as long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crain?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I read New republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like Korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

I vote for the democratic party
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal

380 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:09:02am

Who the fuck is fredo malmstein? I just finished browsing that thread and this person must have come in after the thread was dead and down dinged a lot of comments. Fixed most of them.

381 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:10:28am

Top Ten Reasons Liberals Are Friggin Idiots

382 wahabicorridor  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:11:06am

I rebooted. No luck. I'm going away now.

pissed off.

383 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:11:45am

Oh, goodness. My comment to Optimizer is No. 3.

384 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:11:56am

Good Morning Lizards. Got hope?

385 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:12:11am

re: #382 wahabicorridor

I rebooted. No luck. I'm going away now.

pissed off.

NO. RELOAD THE PAGE.

386 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:12:42am

re: #381 Dustyvet

Top Ten Reasons Liberals Are Friggin Idiots


No 5,3 and 1 are so true.

387 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:13:06am

re: #384 opnion

Good Morning Lizards. Got hope?

Screw hope!

388 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:13:39am

-7 in lovely Northeastern CT.
Expecting to shovel another 3-5 inches of Global Warming this coming weekend.

Hey Al Gore, I've got your Global Warming hanging right here!

389 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:13:58am

This was in my inbox this morning...

Subject: TED NUGENT DOES IT AGAIN

WHAT DO DEER THINK?

Ted Nugent, rock star and avid bow hunter from Michigan ,
was being interviewed by a French journalist and animal
rights activist. The discussion came around to deer hunting.

The journalist asked, "What do you think is the last
thought in the head of a deer before you shoot him? Is
it, 'Are you my friend?' or is it 'Are you the one who
killed my brother?' "

Nugent replied, "Deer aren't capable of that kind of
thinking. All they care about is, 'What am I going to eat
next, who am I going to screw next, and can I run fast
enough to get away. They are very much like the French."

390 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:14:04am

re: #384 opnion

Good Morning Lizards. Got hope?

The same guy that sings "Mares Eat Oats".

391 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:14:06am

re: #383 MandyManners

Oh, goodness. My comment to Optimizer is No. 3.

You just have such a way with words 2M. What did you expect?/

392 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:14:09am

re: #387 Wyatt Earp

re: #384 opnion


Screw hope!


I hear yeah, I am so damn sick of the bumper stickers.

393 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:14:42am

re: #387 Wyatt Earp

re: #384 opnion


Screw hope!

Everyone was jumping for joy and feeling merry. Joy and Mary left.

394 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:14:42am

I had to miss the Farewell Speech thread due to other pressing matters. So, a belated

Thank you, Mr President. Godspeed.

395 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:15:06am

Us & Them: A Lesson For Liberal MORONS


396 VioletTiger  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:15:06am

re: #332 Wyatt Earp

Morning Lizards! It's a delightful 9 degrees of global warming in Philly this morning. My gun froze in my holster, I think.

Morning all.
You're from my neck-of-the-woods, Wyatt. We're getting some record lows.

397 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:15:28am

re: #391 Erik The Red

re: #383 MandyManners


You just have such a way with words 2M. What did you expect?/

I didn't expect 31 up-dings!

398 Sunlight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:15:41am

Michael Totten is on his way out again, this time to Israel on a AJC trip. I'm hoping he will give voice to the IDF and people under fire, and not concentrate on his peacenik friends like Amos Oz (fantastic writers, but somewhat out of step if "peace" to them means civilians sitting under rockets. As this video says, Israel is the only country on the planet sitting under rocket fire.

399 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:15:49am

re: #392 opnion

re: #387 Wyatt Earp


re: #384 opnion


Screw hope!


I hear yeah, I am so damn sick of the bumper stickers.

Or the Obama/Biden yard signs so many of my fellow Philadelphians still have outside their homes. The election is over, morons! Take down the signs!

400 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:16:19am

re: #396 VioletTiger

re: #332 Wyatt Earp


Morning all.
You're from my neck-of-the-woods, Wyatt. We're getting some record lows.


It was a balmy 7 degrees in northern Westchester at 5:30 this AM. Global warming sucks.

401 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:16:23am

Gotta' go warm up the car and drag The Kid into this wonderful day. bbl

402 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:16:49am

re: #400 Leonidas Hoplite

re: #396 VioletTiger


re: #332 Wyatt Earp


Morning all.
You're from my neck-of-the-woods, Wyatt. We're getting some record lows.


It was a balmy 7 degrees in northern Westchester at 5:30 this AM. Global warming sucks.

Those fraud Eagles made the playoffs and suddenly Philly froze over.

403 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:17:02am

Hugo Crawls Back

Low oil prices and plunging output have seen Venezuela's Hugo Chavez come groveling back to U.S. oil firms for new investment after abusing them earlier. But Big Oil, once bitten, should now be twice shy.

...

The Heritage Foundation, in its 2009 Index of Economic Freedom released this week, ranked Venezuela No. 28 out of 29, losing out to investment "paradises" like Bolivia, Haiti and Ecuador. Only Cuba was lower. Things are unlikely to change under Chavez.

It is always nice to see *ssholes like this get f*cked. (sorry for the language so early in the morning but I can't stand people like him)

404 VioletTiger  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:17:08am

re: #397 MandyManners
You said what many of us were thinking, but were reluctant to post!

405 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:17:46am

re: #401 MandyManners

Gotta' go warm up the car and drag The Kid into this wonderful day. bbl

Don't let run to long think about the environment and green house gases 2M.

406 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:18:15am

re: #399 Wyatt Earp

Or the Obama/Biden yard signs so many of my fellow Philadelphians still have outside their homes. The election is over, morons! Take down the signs!

You have a book full of citations...use them...:)


but officer...

407 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:18:27am

re: #404 VioletTiger

You said what many of us were thinking, but were reluctant to post!

Never be scared to vent here.

408 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:19:03am

The banking situation continues to be dicey:

Government giving $20 billion to Bank of America
Guaranteeing losses on over $400 billion worth of Citi, Bank of America assets

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- The U.S. government on Friday announced it was injecting $20 billion into Bank of America and guaranteeing losses on over $400 billion of assets both from Citigroup and the Charlotte, N.C. lender.
In a statement released Friday, the Treasury Department and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation said they will invest $20 billion in Bank of America from the Troubled Assets Relief Program in exchange for preferred stock paying an 8% dividend.
The government also will provide Bank of America protection against the possibility of unusually large losses on an asset pool of approximately $118 billion of loans, securities backed by residential and commercial real estate loans and other such assets, which have been marked to current value.
Bank of America will absorb the first $10 billion of losses while the government will share losses from there, up to $10 billion. If that pool of assets sees losses of over $20 billion, then the government will absorb hits on 90% of them.
A similar guarantee was provided to Citigroup: Uncle Sam is on the hook for $301 billion of assets, with Citi taking the first $39.5 billion of hits, and then the government absorbing 90% of the rest.

I still say that a lot of this loss could be avoided if the SEC and FASB/GASB would eliminate "mark to market" from their approach to valuing mortgages backed by buildings and real estate. Valuing a 30 to 100 year asset at the spot market does not make a whole lot of sense. You over value in a hot economy and undervalue in a cold economy.

Discounted cash flows would be a much better way to do it, and that would eliminate hundreds of billions of these write downs.

409 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:19:34am

re: #406 Dustyvet

re: #399 Wyatt Earp


You have a book full of citations...use them...:)


but officer...


LITTERING! Ha!

410 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:19:50am

re: #399 Wyatt Earp

re: #392 opnion


re: #387 Wyatt Earp


re: #384 opnion


Screw hope!


I hear yeah, I am so damn sick of the bumper stickers.

Or the Obama/Biden yard signs so many of my fellow Philadelphians still have outside their homes. The election is over, morons! Take down the signs!


Lots of public transportation employees wearing their Obama campaign pins , on the job in Chicago. Very annoying

411 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:20:12am

re: #407 Erik The Red

Never be scared to vent here.

Vent!

Oh boy...:)


It's me, it's me, it's DustyT...CRASH!...

412 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:20:49am

re: #410 opnion

re: #399 Wyatt Earp


re: #392 opnion


re: #387 Wyatt Earp


re: #384 opnion


Screw hope!


I hear yeah, I am so damn sick of the bumper stickers.

Or the Obama/Biden yard signs so many of my fellow Philadelphians still have outside their homes. The election is over, morons! Take down the signs!

Lots of public transportation employees wearing their Obama campaign pins , on the job in Chicago. Very annoying

Dang, you live in HopeChange Central. I'm so sorry.

413 VioletTiger  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:21:13am

re: #402 Wyatt Earp


LOL!
They sucker me in every year. But Philly teams are on a roll--first the Soul, then the Phils, next the Eagles?

414 smokefire  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:21:48am

Unions are in celebratory moods. Just wait for the hangover to come on. It's going to get worse, and the unions will be in an uproar...I can't wait

415 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:23:54am

re: #412 Wyatt Earp

re: #410 opnion


re: #399 Wyatt Earp


re: #392 opnion


re: #387 Wyatt Earp


re: #384 opnion


Screw hope!


I hear yeah, I am so damn sick of the bumper stickers.

Or the Obama/Biden yard signs so many of my fellow Philadelphians still have outside their homes. The election is over, morons! Take down the signs!

Lots of public transportation employees wearing their Obama campaign pins , on the job in Chicago. Very annoying

Dang, you live in HopeChange Central. I'm so sorry.


Thank you. We are now kinda like a banana republic.

416 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:24:36am

re: #413 VioletTiger

re: #402 Wyatt Earp


LOL!
They sucker me in every year. But Philly teams are on a roll--first the Soul, then the Phils, next the Eagles?

Well, if you listen to the local sports morons, the Eagles will win this weekend by 49 points. Personally, I think they are really underestimating the Cardinals. But, if the Eagles make the Super Bowl, there is little chance they'll beat either the Steelers or the Ravens.

Of course, this is coming from someone who despises Donovan McNabb and Andy Reid, so . . .

417 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:25:43am

Minneapolis' Star Tribune Files Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

MINNEAPOLIS — Less than two years after it was bought by a private equity group, the Star Tribune has filed for reorganization under Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

"We determined that the filing was necessary to reduce our operating costs, restructure our debt and create a financially viable business for the future," Publisher and Chairman Chris Harte said in a note to readers posted on the newspaper's Web site late Thursday.

Harte said the filing would allow Minnesota's largest newspaper to continue business as usual as it restructures.

The filing came a week after the Star Tribune and the Newspaper Guild ended talks, saying they were unable to agree on management's request for concessions.

"Obviously, I think it's unfortunate. It's not our decision, it's the company's, and we take very seriously the future of the newspaper," Graydon Royce, co-chairman for the Star Tribune's unit of the Guild, said of the bankruptcy filing.

Royce added that Star Tribune employees are "very committed to keeping this institution alive."

Union leaders said the bankruptcy filing, while expected, came as a surprise.

Looks like the bankruptcy judge will be negotiation the concessions now.

418 VioletTiger  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:26:09am

re: #403 Ford_Prefect
I can't tell you how nice it is to see Hugo gets what's coming. PDVSA is not going to float very long.

419 smokefire  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:26:51am

We are now kinda like a banana republic.

Well you do have Generalissimo Blago as leader for life.

420 DaddyG  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:27:09am

This morning I turned on the local network news station to see if there were any traffic accidents on my route. The anchor bimbo was reading her script about the Bush farewell speech and the commentary was all about how he "uncharacteristically admitted some mistakes" and how he "used the speech to "justify his policies like water-boarding and torture".

That's not what I heard last night.

The problem is the 98% of our populace who were too busy catching up on the latest medical drama or investigative cop show to watch Bush now have the MSM BDS filtered report informing them.

Got duct tape? My head is about to explode.

421 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:27:12am

Good Morning all. Anybody hear The President's speech last night? My wife and I had a good laugh. When he started talking about the DR. who got an age waiver to Join up, she hit me in the ribs with her elbow. I got an age waiver also. She turned to me and said " so when are you going the Iraq"?

422 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:27:22am

re: #402 Wyatt Earp

Now that's funny!

423 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:28:03am

Anybody read Charles Krauthammer's article in the WaPo this morning?

All I can say is HA!

424 gregg  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:28:06am

re: #417 3 wood

Any chance the StarTribune (aka "Red Star") ends up in Chapter 7?

425 VioletTiger  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:28:14am

re: #416 Wyatt Earp

Win or lose, there will be some good parties out here in South NJ. Lots of Eagle fans in the neighborhood.

426 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:28:59am

re: #419 smokefire

We are now kinda like a banana republic.

Well you do have Generalissimo Blago as leader for life.


Dark Helmet!

427 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:30:36am

re: #417 3 wood

Union leaders said the bankruptcy filing, while expected, came as a surprise

Thanks for that, I needed a morning chuckle.

428 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:30:40am

Turkish PM Erdogan: Bar Israel from UN over Gaza offensive

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

First of all, for all intent and purposes Israel is already barred from the UN since they are not part of any Region--like the Middle East or Asia etc. Secondly fuck you Turkey. Oh and yeah fuck you for helping us so much in Gulf War 2 by blocking the 4th ID.

429 gregg  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:30:54am

I'm guessing this photo of US Air 1549 has already been posted, but here it is again.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

430 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:33:02am

re: #429 gregg

I'm guessing this photo of US Air 1549 has already been posted, but here it is again.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

All that Air Force and simulator training paid off I'd say!

431 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:33:06am

It's off to work. Have a great day y'all.

432 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:33:08am

Tom Hanks Says Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American'

Tom Hanks, Executive Producer for HBO’s controversial polygamist series “Big Love,” made his feelings toward the Mormon Church’s involvement in California's Prop 8 (which prohibits gay marriage) very clear at the show’s premiere party on Wednesday night.

“The truth is this takes place in Utah, the truth is these people are some bizarre offshoot of the Mormon Church, and the truth is a lot of Mormons gave a lot of money to the church to make Prop-8 happen,” he told Tarts. “There are a lot of people who feel that is un-American and I am one of them. I do not like to see any discrimination codified on any piece of paper, any of the 50 states in America, but here's what happens now. A little bit of light can be shed and people can see who's responsible and that can motivate the next go around of our self correcting constitution and hopefully we can move forward instead of backwards. So lets have faith in not only the American, but Californian constitutional process.”

How tolerant of Mr. Hanks. I notice he does not go after the black community in California, who overwhelmingly voted against this.

What a schmuck.

433 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:33:40am

re: #420 DaddyG

My wife and I happened to have the NBC coverage on last night. The first thing the idiotcasters had to say was that bush was leaving with the lowest approval ratings blah blah blah. Even as the man is on his way out this barbarians can't even manage to be civil, never mind fair and accurate.

434 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:34:03am

re: #423 unreconstructed rebel

Anybody read Charles Krauthammer's article in the WaPo this morning?

All I can say is HA!


Great article. Thanks for the post!

HA is right.

435 Crux Australis  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:34:04am

The MSM needs to be destroyed or America will be destroyed. It's going to end up that way unfortunately.

The same as in Australia but to a lesser extent. The lefties haven't taken over like in the US.

436 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:34:35am

re: #424 gregg

Any chance the StarTribune (aka "Red Star") ends up in Chapter 7?

I don't know, but we can hope.

437 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:34:48am

re: #422 Stonemason

re: #402 Wyatt Earp

Now that's funny!

I should probably "root, root root for the home team," but I gotta call them like I see them. They had no business making the playoffs and I can't cheer for a man who didn't know there were ties in the NFL. Guy is a moron.

438 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:35:45am

re: #432 3 wood

I can't go to any Movie in which a moonbat is involved and I am sad to say that now includes Mr. Hanks. I have also read with dismay his gushing praise of Obama. I guess talent in one area doesn't carry over to rational thought necessarily.

439 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:36:05am

re: #292 Erik The Red

Hey aussie. Great game today. Everything a one day needs. Bad fielding in the last 2 overs cost you guys. Sets the rest of the series up nicely.

Hello Erik and hope you're still here!

Computer problems - frozen, locked up etc - so painful :-)

Yes it was great game, especially those fall of 4 SA wickets, and some super bowling from our blokes but the South Africans fought back as they always do...now for some terrific cricket in the next 4 matches !

440 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:36:22am

re: #420 DaddyG
The Bush Inaugural four years ago, took all kinds of flack from the MSM for the cost. The Obama party will cost about $150 Million, about three times what Bush cost. Now the MSM is strangely ok with it.

441 gregg  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:36:26am

re: #430 Nevergiveup

I was wondering if the plane had already cleared the George Washington bridge at the point the photo was taken?

442 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:36:46am

re: #432 3 wood

Tom Hanks Says Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American'

How tolerant of Mr. Hanks. I notice he does not go after the black community in California, who overwhelmingly voted against this.

What a schmuck.

Or the The One. Had he not been on the ticket the voter turnout in the black community would not have been so huge and we all know they put the yes vote over the top.

443 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:36:51am

Good morning, lizard buddies! 10 degrees in DC metro area.

444 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:37:00am

re: #427 UFO TOFU

Thanks for that, I needed a morning chuckle.

I was hoping someone would pick up on that.

445 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:37:08am

re: #437 Wyatt Earp

I should probably "root, root root for the home team," but I gotta call them like I see them. They had no business making the playoffs and I can't cheer for a man who didn't know there were ties in the NFL. Guy is a moron.

Yeah, maybe, also probably has gotten hit one to many times, but he is a warrior and after all he hates TO so give him credit for that.

446 spirochete  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:37:35am

re: #408 3 wood

I am not keeping up with all the details here. Listening to the press, doesn't sound like anyone else is either. One thing I cannot see is how this is helping "us". I know with some of these deals, we get equity, some are loans, so in that respect, the gov't is investing in the private sector and will get a return.

What i would like to know is how can we get burned by this? Inflation alone won't be the only mechanism, I'm sure. Which set of multibillion $ outlays won't get repaid in soem form and why, and how can we see that before we give it out?

447 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:37:55am

re: #441 gregg

I was wondering if the plane had already cleared the George Washington bridge at the point the photo was taken?

Yes it had. Actually you can almost see my office in the photo.

448 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:38:05am

re: #440 opnion

The Bush Inaugural four years ago, took all kinds of flack from the MSM for the cost. The Obama party will cost about $150 Million, about three times what Bush cost. Now the MSM is strangely ok with it.

Natch.

And any honest person would have to admit that if ever there were a time to scale back it would be now.

449 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:38:07am

re: #445 Nevergiveup

re: #437 Wyatt Earp


Yeah, maybe, also probably has gotten hit one to many times, but he is a warrior and after all he hates TO so give him credit for that.

I can do that, but I can't stomach the way this guy flexes and struts for the camera after throwing two INTs and throwing half his passes at players' feet. Very overrated, IMO.

450 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:38:24am

re: #298 Erik The Red

re: #292 Erik The Red


PS thanks for the dings. It has been a rough crowd tonight.

Must show my appreciation, and maybe it's because it's already the FNDT for me :-)

Love crook jokes...

451 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:39:23am

re: #439 aussiemagpie

Still here but heading out to the bar now. Looking forward to Sunday's game Good luck.

Remember Lizards. Pool party at my place after work. Drinks and snacks provided. BYOB. (Bring your own bimbo)

452 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:39:29am

re: #443 vapig

Good morning, lizard buddies! 10 degrees in DC metro area.

Good Morning! 5 balmy degrees here on Boston's North Shore.

453 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:40:00am

re: #449 Wyatt Earp

I can do that, but I can't stomach the way this guy flexes and struts for the camera after throwing two INTs and throwing half his passes at players' feet. Very overrated, IMO.

Hey I'm a Jet fan. At least your QB doesn't belong to AARP and isn't senile!

454 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:40:04am

Good news yesterday; California's imminent meltdown is nothing to worry about.

455 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:40:42am

re: #452 loppyd

Good Morning! 5 balmy degrees here on Boston's North Shore.

Yeah but I bet Youklis is all warm and fuzzy this AM

456 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:40:58am

re: #453 Nevergiveup

re: #449 Wyatt Earp


Hey I'm a Jet fan. At least your QB doesn't belong to AARP and isn't senile!


Good point. I'm a Broncos fan, myslef, so we have our own issues. :)

457 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:41:22am

re: #442 loppyd

Mroning Loppy. Did you see that the Sox signed Youk to a four year extension? Things are lloking good for a long time in Boston.

458 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:41:49am

re: #456 Wyatt Earp

Good point. I'm a Broncos fan, myslef, so we have our own issues. :)

But you have a QB for the future. And you don't live in NJ.

459 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:42:00am

I concur with Boehner's statement "OH MY GOD"

An initial review of the "stimulus" by Congressman John Boehner's office found these spending proposals:

* $600 million for new cars for the federal government
* $1 billion "to minimize undercounting of minority groups" in the 2010 census
* $400 million for NASA for global warming
* $400 million for "National Treasures"
* $6 billion for colleges/universities, many of which have massive billion dollar endowments
* $166 billion in direct aid to states, many of which have failed to budget wisely
* $650 million more for digital television conversation coupons

460 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:42:08am

re: #442 loppyd

Or the The One. Had he not been on the ticket the voter turnout in the black community would not have been so huge and we all know they put the yes vote over the top.

Mr. Hanks needs to go do his acting thing, and shut it...

461 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:42:08am

re: #450 aussiemagpie

it's because it's already the FNDT for me :-)

Go ahead, rub it in.

462 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:42:34am

re: #457 Ford_Prefect

Mroning Loppy. Did you see that the Sox signed Youk to a four year extension? Things are lloking good for a long time in Boston.

Good Morning! I did see that...it made me all warm and fuzzy. :~)

463 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:43:10am

re: #458 Nevergiveup

But you have a QB for the future. And you don't live in NJ.

And you have a kickass new head coach.

464 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:43:12am

re: #435 Crux Australis

The MSM needs to be destroyed or America will be destroyed. It's going to end up that way unfortunately.

The same as in Australia but to a lesser extent. The lefties haven't taken over like in the US.


The Radical Muslims beat them to it

465 bellamags  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:43:22am

Good Morning Lizards from a freezing 32 degrees in FL. I even had a little cute icon show up next to the temperature readout near my speedometer that said "ICY" - Drive by post cause I'm super busy today. If anyone sees Mandy today, tell her I saw Johnny Van Zant at Starbux this morning! Hope everyone has a great day.

466 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:43:26am

The thing I wonder about is once Bush goes back to Texas and some time passes, who are the left and the MSM going to focus their hate on?

Oh, I know they will blame Bush if the wind blows hard for the next year or two, but with Bush out of the daily spot light, who are they going to shift their hate to? They have so enjoyed being hate filled these past 8 years, and they see it as being successful. I mean, who are jerks like Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews and Olberman going to hate every night now?

467 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:43:36am

re: #462 loppyd

Good Morning! I did see that...it made me all warm and fuzzy. :~)

At least credit me in the footnoted?

468 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:43:42am

re: #455 Nevergiveup

Yeah but I bet Youklis is all warm and fuzzy this AM

Get outta my head!

See my 462!

469 rightside  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:44:25am

re: #443 vapig

Pretty close to that just down south of you.

470 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:44:30am

re: #432 3 wood

Tom Hanks Says Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American'


How tolerant of Mr. Hanks. I notice he does not go after the black community in California, who overwhelmingly voted against this.

What a schmuck.

I liked this asshat a lot better when he kept his big fat mouth shut. Between him and Opie this past year I'm heartily sick of these people using their celebrity as a bully pulpit. Just shut up and do your job - we don't give a flying f#$k WHAT you think!

471 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:45:18am

re: #465 bellamags

freezing 32 degrees in FL.

That could get you in real trouble here this morning, bella.

472 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:45:21am

re: #466 3 wood

The thing I wonder about is once Bush goes back to Texas and some time passes, who are the left and the MSM going to focus their hate on?

Oh, I know they will blame Bush if the wind blows hard for the next year or two, but with Bush out of the daily spot light, who are they going to shift their hate to? They have so enjoyed being hate filled these past 8 years, and they see it as being successful. I mean, who are jerks like Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews and Olberman going to hate every night now?


Morning 3 wood - Anyone who critisizes Obama.

473 spirochete  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:45:29am

re: #466 3 wood

themselves.

474 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:45:30am

re: #458 Nevergiveup

re: #456 Wyatt Earp


And you don't live in NJ.

And there's not a day that goes by that I'm not thankful for that! :)

475 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:45:38am

re: #467 Nevergiveup

At least credit me in the footnoted?

I swear I didn't see your post.

Were we separated at birth?

One twin goes to the Eeeevil dark side and becomes a Yankees fan while the other becomes a member of Red Sox Nation...

476 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:46:10am

re: #475 loppyd

I swear I didn't see your post.

Were we separated at birth?

One twin goes to the Eeeevil dark side and becomes a Yankees fan while the other becomes a member of Red Sox Nation...

I see a book deal?

477 bellamags  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:46:11am

re: #471 Ford_Prefect

That could get you in real trouble here this morning, bella.

I gotta rub it in Ford.

478 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:46:24am

re: #437 Wyatt Earp

I should probably "root, root root for the home team," but I gotta call them like I see them. They had no business making the playoffs and I can't cheer for a man who didn't know there were ties in the NFL. Guy is a moron.

I have disliked the both of them for years, time management has sucked. That said I have a great friend in Ari., Philly transplant and in no way a homer who says the Cards are beatable. Not that the AFC is beatable though. I see them getting lucky in some way and then getting crushed in two weeks.

479 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:46:32am

re: #466 3 wood

The thing I wonder about is once Bush goes back to Texas and some time passes, who are the left and the MSM going to focus their hate on?

Oh, I know they will blame Bush if the wind blows hard for the next year or two, but with Bush out of the daily spot light, who are they going to shift their hate to? They have so enjoyed being hate filled these past 8 years, and they see it as being successful. I mean, who are jerks like Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews and Olberman going to hate every night now?

Anyone who dares to stand in his way.

480 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:46:34am

re: #472 midwestgak

re: #466 3 wood


Morning 3 wood - Anyone who criticizes Obama.

481 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:46:47am

re: #451 Erik The Red

re: #439 aussiemagpie

Still here but heading out to the bar now. Looking forward to Sunday's game Good luck.

Remember Lizards. Pool party at my place after work. Drinks and snacks provided. BYOB. (Bring your own bimbo)


See you Erik, have a good time at the bar :-)

482 bellamags  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:47:11am

re: #471 Ford_Prefect

That could get you in real trouble here this morning, bella.

HEY. you could move here ya know.

483 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:47:19am

re: #449 Wyatt Earp

Rush was right

484 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:47:35am

re: #476 Nevergiveup

I see a book deal?

That would actually be a great movie...

485 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:47:40am

re: #478 Stonemason

re: #437 Wyatt Earp


I have disliked the both of them for years, time management has sucked. That said I have a great friend in Ari., Philly transplant and in no way a homer who says the Cards are beatable. Not that the AFC is beatable though. I see them getting lucky in some way and then getting crushed in two weeks.

Agreed. Pitt/Bal will probably destroy the NFC team this year. Besides, my department can only handle one riot a year!

486 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:48:39am

re: #482 bellamags

HEY. you could move here ya know.

No thanks. I like my weather hurricane free.

487 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:49:39am

re: #484 loppyd

That would actually be a great movie...

Light saber bats? Cool!

488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:50:21am

re: #483 Stonemason

McNabb has led the Eagles to four consecutive NFC East division championships (2001, 2002, 2003, and 2004), five NFC Championship Games (2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2008), and one Super Bowl (Super Bowl XXXIX, which the Eagles lost to the New England Patriots).

Eagles fans are a bit demanding, IMHO.

489 bellamags  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:50:45am

re: #486 Ford_Prefect

No thanks. I like my weather hurricane free.

Just be far inland enough that it just does some minor damage. Those on the coast get screwed. I would never live closer than 40 miles from the beach. And with hurricanes you get plenty of warning to leave.

490 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:50:46am

re: #487 Ford_Prefect

Light saber bats? Cool!

As long as I don't have to have cinnabon braids.

491 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:51:01am

re: #470 vapig

I liked this asshat a lot better when he kept his big fat mouth shut. Between him and Opie this past year I'm heartily sick of these people using their celebrity as a bully pulpit. Just shut up and do your job - we don't give a flying f#$k WHAT you think!

It wouldn't be so irritating if their approach was not so dishonest. I've heard one of them say that they knew nothing about a given issue and that their opinion was no more significant than anyone's. I'd like to see more of that.

492 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:51:13am

re: #487 Ford_Prefect

re: #484 loppyd


Light saber bats? Cool!

"If you only knew the power of the Lower East Side!"

493 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:51:34am

re: #461 UFO TOFU

re: #450 aussiemagpie


Go ahead, rub it in.

Hi {UFO TOFU} Good to see you...cheers! :-)

*glass clinks*

494 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:52:39am

re: #492 Wyatt Earp

"If you only knew the power of the Lower East Side!"

May the Schwartz be with you!

495 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:52:53am

re: #489 bellamags

Just be far inland enough that it just does some minor damage. Those on the coast get screwed. I would never live closer than 40 miles from the beach. And with hurricanes you get plenty of warning to leave.

I'll take hurricanes and mild winters over snow/ice/sub-freezing temps any day of the week.

496 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:53:24am

re: #493 aussiemagpie

Good Morning Aussie!

Let me live vicariously through you today...what's the weather in Oz?

497 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:53:29am

If Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb had led the Cowboys (with the same winning percentage and playoff record) I'd love them dearly.

498 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:53:31am

re: #490 loppyd

As long as I don't have to have cinnabon braids.

I don't know. Maybe that would work for your fiance.

499 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:54:45am

re: #495 reine.de.tout

I'll take hurricanes and mild winters over snow/ice/sub-freezing temps any day of the week.

Snow and cold go away. Unfortunately, so do houses in hurricanes.

500 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:54:47am

re: #488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #483 Stonemason


Eagles fans are a bit demanding, IMHO.

Eagles fans want someone who can finish. The talking heads are crowing about their 5th NFC Championship in 8 years. One Super Bowl appearance and no wins, though? Kinda weak.

Of course, as a lifelong Philly resident, my personal opinion is that many Eagles fans are not "the most knowledgable in football," but are instead drunken tools who go to the games to pee in the stands and fight people for cheering for the opposing team.

501 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:54:50am

re: #488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am one handed at the moment, research is tough, as is typing, but, if I recall, our back-ups, were responsible for three of those playoff runs. it was the years he was 'healthy' that we didn't go anywhere...will have to look.

502 bellamags  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:54:56am

re: #495 reine.de.tout

I'll take hurricanes and mild winters over snow/ice/sub-freezing temps any day of the week.

Me too. The older I get the less tolerant I am of cold weather. It seems to take longer to warm up once you do get cold. I'm going to be one of those old ladies that wears a cardigan when it gets down to 70 outside! LOL

503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:55:16am

re: #491 legalpad

Jack Nicholson? I think?

"I'm an actor."

That's it.

504 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:56:47am

re: #498 Ford_Prefect

I don't know. Maybe that would work for your fiance.

LOL. I was Princess Lea for Hallowen the year Star Wars came out. But no cinnabons because I had made the fatal error of getting a Dorothy Hamill pixie haircut. Oh the horror!

505 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:57:12am

re: #500 Wyatt Earp

I refuse to go to games for that very reason

506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:57:25am

re: #500 Wyatt Earp

"Drunken Tool" would be a good nic.

507 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:57:47am

re: #503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Jack Nicholson? I think?

"I'm an actor."

That's it.

Well he's a laker's Fan also, but that's OK I guess?

508 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:57:51am

re: #504 loppyd

LOL. I was Princess Lea for Hallowen the year Star Wars came out. But no cinnabons because I had made the fatal error of getting a Dorothy Hamill pixie haircut. Oh the horror!

I don't know. Maybe that would work for your fiance.

509 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:58:11am

re: #504 loppyd

I loved that hair cut. So cute.

510 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:58:18am

re: #506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Drunken Tool" would be a good nic.

Yeah, for Ted Kennedy.

511 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:58:46am

Dear lord Mfarmer apparently has a fanboi club too. I am sorta glad I wasn't here when he was posting his drivel or I probably woulda gotten the stick. I was livid enough even having read his bs earlier that I still had to respond when I decided after pointing out the thread to others to post just because I couldn't let it lie. Fortunetely I wasn't blowing steam like the first time I had read the comments.

512 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:59:17am

re: #446 spirochete

I am not keeping up with all the details here. Listening to the press, doesn't sound like anyone else is either. One thing I cannot see is how this is helping "us". I know with some of these deals, we get equity, some are loans, so in that respect, the gov't is investing in the private sector and will get a return.

What i would like to know is how can we get burned by this? Inflation alone won't be the only mechanism, I'm sure. Which set of multibillion $ outlays won't get repaid in soem form and why, and how can we see that before we give it out?

Well, you first have to start out with what do you think would have been the consequences if the Fed's and Treasury did not do this?

If you think the answer is that not much different would have happened, then this was a bad deal all the way around.

If on the other hand, you are of the opinion (as I am) that the financial system was on the verge of total collapse, and the consequences of that would have been catastrophic, then this bail out, while not the ideal solution, has been/will continue to be better than doing nothing. I know that is not a popular opinion.

Some of this money should get repaid and the preferred stock will likely get bought back over the future years as these banks hopefully rebound in the next year or two and the economy starts growing again.

But there will be a lot of this that will never get repaid back and will have to be eaten. Part of the problem is it's dang hard to calculate the damage as long as the 'mark to market' requirement still exists in some form. Who knows what property values will be next month? Because we don't know that, it's impossible to figure out a solid absolute number to the damage to the mortgage backed security values.

I thought Dick Morris had a pretty good analogy the other night on O'Reilly. He pointed out that for many years the American economy got hooked on cheap credit like a heroin addict. Now it's time to kick the habit. The option is go cold turkey with the very good likelihood that the addict will die in the process, or switch the addict to methadone to survive the withdrawl. As Morris said, this bail out is the methadone.

But make no mistake, this whole bail out situation will be being paid off for decades to come.

513 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:59:23am

re: #504 loppyd

re: #498 Ford_Prefect


LOL. I was Princess Lea for Hallowen the year Star Wars came out. But no cinnabons because I had made the fatal error of getting a Dorothy Hamill pixie haircut. Oh the horror!

Wioll you marry me . . . if you still have the costume, of course!

514 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:59:31am

re: #499 Ford_Prefect

Snow and cold go away. Unfortunately, so do houses in hurricanes.

My house is still standing after Andrew, Katrina, Rita and Gustav.

As Bellamags said - the trick is to live far enough inland that damage is minimal.

515 Rustler  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:59:43am

Shift almost over folks be safe.

516 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:00:00am

re: #508 Ford_Prefect

I don't know. Maybe that would work for your fiance.

Then again your fiance is a guy (I assume, I mean you do live in MA), so just about anything would probably work.

517 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:00:51am

re: #503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Jack Nicholson? I think?

"I'm an actor."

That's it.

Hadn't heard that. Good for him too. I heard it from Reese Witherspoon.

518 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:00:51am

re: #496 loppyd

re: #493 aussiemagpie

Good Morning Aussie!

Let me live vicariously through you today...what's the weather in Oz?


Hi {Lopps} Good to see you darls!

Weather here in my part of Sydney - Thursday 41C (over 110F), Friday much cooler although I was in my freezer(workplace) on Thursday and missed most of the heat, and today should be warm

I love summer!

519 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:01:18am

re: #456 Wyatt Earp

Good point. I'm a Broncos fan, myslef, so we have our own issues. :)

Bears fan here. This team is so screwed up, our issues have issues.

520 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:01:24am

re: #511 Rustler

Really not expecting to see him back. But I will not speak of him again; because I think that those guys post, run away, then jerk off watching us talk about what they said and how mad we are at them.

Sorry for the vulgarity, but, I calls it like I sees it.

521 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:01:25am

re: #493 aussiemagpie

Hi ya aussie! Seems like I've been checking in lately just after you've left. Hope things are good where you're at.

522 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:01:54am

re: #517 legalpad

Hadn't heard that. Good for him too. I heard it from Reese Witherspoon.

But Witherspoon is moonbatty isn't she?

523 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:02:27am

re: #522 Nevergiveup

re: #517 legalpad


But Witherspoon is moonbatty isn't she?

She may be, but hot goes a long way . . .

524 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:02:28am

Watch The Obama Inauguration From Your iPhone With Ustream

The application will let users watch any Ustream channel, live, directly from their iPhone. And not only that, users will also see and be able to participate in the live chat around the video as well.

The timing on the application is near perfect with the Obama inauguration coming up on January 20. If you have the application installed you’ll be able to watch it live from anywhere, even if you aren’t in front of your TV or computer

.
Your text to link...
I knew those I phones were evil
/

525 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:02:36am

re: #435 Crux Australis

The MSM needs to be destroyed or America will be destroyed. It's going to end up that way unfortunately.

The same as in Australia but to a lesser extent. The lefties haven't taken over like in the US.

Actually, they are being destroyed by their own devices. They have so maligned their own status as a whole that the daily news of one bankruptcy filing after another shows the free market is working.

Good news is that while the older generation is turning away from these ideological hacks in droves, the younger generation doesn't even bother with them in the first place and find their news and information via the net.

526 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:03:26am

Good morning y'all - from a FRIGID (13 degrees going up to 31 degrees) sunny and blue skied Charlotte.
How is eveyone doing this morning?

527 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:03:31am

re: #524 ThinkRight

Watch The Obama Inauguration From Your iPhone With Ustream


.
Your text to link...
I knew those I phones were evil
/


(Banging head against wall.)

528 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:03:48am

re: #509 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I loved that hair cut. So cute.

Not when it is growing out!

I had very long hair before I got it and combing it out after a shower was always a battle with my mom and me. Plus she had to braid it, etc. I told my mom I loved Hamill's hair and before I could change my mind I was at HER hairdresser getting about 8 inches chopped off.

529 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:05:23am

re: #513 Wyatt Earp

Wioll you marry me . . . if you still have the costume, of course!

I'd be honored. But the BF may have to challenge you to a light sabre duel.

530 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:05:24am

re: #523 Wyatt Earp

She may be, but hot goes a long way . . .

Not far enough in this one's case. Can't stand her. (Not Reese)

531 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:05:45am

re: #523 Wyatt Earp

She may be, but hot goes a long way . . .

MILF?

532 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:05:48am

Morning all. +27 and foggy here in Twin Falls. Anything interesting on the gazacam?

533 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:05:56am

re: #526 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a FRIGID (13 degrees going up to 31 degrees) sunny and blue skied Charlotte.
How is eveyone doing this morning?

Morning, real. -1 when I left the house this morning in CT.

534 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:06:03am

re: #529 loppyd

re: #513 Wyatt Earp


I'd be honored. But the BF may have to challenge you to a light sabre duel.

Crud. I better get practicing, then. :)

535 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:06:19am

re: #527 Wyatt Earp
Howdy Wyatt! Are you on duty now? I just heard how cold it is in Philly and sure hope you get to stay indoors today!

536 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:06:20am

re: #530 Ford_Prefect

Crap, I had to click on that...

537 Rune  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:06:21am

aw. Zimbabwe to launch 100 trillion dollar note

That is 14 zeros. 100,000,000,000,000. One banknote equals 7 million for each Zimbabweans. Just one banknote will make them all millionaires! Of course, the hundred trillion is also worth about US$33. Today. Tomorrow. About half that.

Btw. I just found out from Wiki that the speaker of the parliament is called "Lovemore Moyo"

538 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:06:33am

re: #526 realwest

How is eveyone doing this morning?

Freak'n cold,

It's 16 below here.

539 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:07:07am

re: #522 Nevergiveup

But Witherspoon is moonbatty isn't she?

I think she is under the influence of her very moonbatty bf, Jake Gyllenhall (sp?)

540 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:07:15am

re: #530 Ford_Prefect

re: #523 Wyatt Earp


Not far enough in this one's case. Can't stand her. (Not Reese)

Roberts is not even hot! An ugly moonbat = no fun.

541 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:07:42am

re: #528 loppydHey {loppyd} how are you doing today, goodlooking?

542 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:07:59am

re: #522 Nevergiveup

But Witherspoon is moonbatty isn't she?

Yeah, I think she is, but she seems to be careful about saying stupid things, and she said the above when asked about a particular issue that related to her movie Rendition. I would guess she has some conservative relatives.

543 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:08:07am

re: #514 reine.de.tout

re: #499 Ford_Prefect


My house is still standing after Andrew, Katrina, Rita and Gustav.

As Bellamags said - the trick is to live far enough inland that damage is minimal.

Morning {reine},

It was -10 degrees when I walked out the door this morning. I love it and the spin outs are fun.///

544 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:08:38am

re: #533 Ford_Prefect
-1?! Ford, why did you leave your house this morning?!

545 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:08:46am

re: #526 {realwest}

Good Morning Handsome!

It's a whopping 5 where I am now. My car thermo read 1 when I went out to start it this morning.

Hope you are recovered from your mishap the other day.

546 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:09:22am

re: #535 realwest

re: #527 Wyatt Earp
Howdy Wyatt! Are you on duty now? I just heard how cold it is in Philly and sure hope you get to stay indoors today!


Heh, heh, "duty."

Morning Real! Yep, I am working now (inside, thankfully). It was 9 degrees on the ride in and is expected to get to a balmy 18 by midday!

547 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:09:23am

re: #491 legalpad

re: #470 vapig


It wouldn't be so irritating if their approach was not so dishonest. I've heard one of them say that they knew nothing about a given issue and that their opinion was no more significant than anyone's. I'd like to see more of that.

Yeah - that was Hanks, who then turned around and did just that. Used his position to give his flippin opinion to change other's opinions. Hypocrisy personified!

548 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:09:51am

re: #544 realwest

-1?! Ford, why did you leave your house this morning?!

Someone has to pay for the heat so it isn't -1 inside the house.

549 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:10:11am

re: #540 Wyatt Earp

Roberts is not even hot! An ugly moonbat = no fun.

Totally agree! Lighting and makeup are her best friend.

Candids of her are a fright.

550 DaddyG  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:10:20am

re: #432 3 wood

Tom Hanks Says Mormon Supporters of Proposition 8 'Un-American'

How tolerant of Mr. Hanks. I notice he does not go after the black community in California, who overwhelmingly voted against this.

What a schmuck.

I notice he has faith in the constitutional process. Did he forget that the Mormons have constitutional rights to voice their opinion under the Bill of Rights attached to that constitution?

As an insider I think the LDS (Mormons) are taking heat on this primarily because we don't usually take public stands for or against political issues, the exception being a few moral issues like abortion or marriage. Our leadership asking us to get involved in a partisan way is unusual and we're getting push back because of it.

Homosexuality is also a very difficult thing for religious families to deal with. Parents and children often feel that differences in belief and practice are a personal rejection of who each other "is". I imagine with the large LDS population in California the public discussion of what was once a private matter has added fuel to the fire for LDS families, their homosexual children and their partners.

I can only pray I would handle such a large difference in belief and practice with one of my children in a loving and understanding way.

551 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:11:10am

re: #549 loppyd

re: #540 Wyatt Earp


Totally agree! Lighting and makeup are her best friend.

Candids of her are a fright.

I have seen some of her without makeup. YIKES!

552 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:11:54am

re: #538 3 wood
Morning my friend - yeah, for the first time in I don't know how long, I watched the weather channel today - damn it's cold everywhere today except for Florida and the Gulf Coast states - you guys in Illinois may have to burn some of your politico's at the stake just to stay warm! LOL!
Well, all I can say is it was 16 when I woke up at 7:00Am and it's now DROPPED to 13 degrees and I'm cold INDOORS.
No frickin' insulation down here at all!

553 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:12:05am

re: #549 loppyd

Totally agree! Lighting and makeup are her best friend.

Candids of her are a fright.

I liked her in her Mystic Pizza days, but then she started opening that really big mouth of hers and it all went out the window. And this is coming from someone who has a thing for redheads.

554 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:12:30am

re: #552 realwest

How cold is it suppose to be in DC next tuesday?

555 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:12:30am

re: #553 Ford_Prefect

re: #549 loppyd


I liked her in her Mystic Pizza days, but then she started opening that really big mouth of hers and it all went out the window. And this is coming from someone who has a thing for redheads.

Redheads = heaven!

556 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:12:45am

Speaking of bias Matthews and Olberman will do news coverage onthe inauguration:

Among the network anchors who will gather in Washington, D.C., next week to cover the presidential inauguration, MSNBC hosts Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews will have particularly prominent roles. Together with Rachel Maddow and Eugene Robinson, the two will lead the cable news channel’s coverage of inaugural events for eight hours on Jan. 20.

In an interview today, Griffin said he’s comfortable with the role that Olbermann and Matthews will play at the inauguration because it’s “a whole day of color commentary.”

“This is a day of watching the festivities and the pomp and circumstance,” he said.

Griffin said he has “no problem putting our guys out to host programs on big events,” adding: “I want to highlight them.”

The MSNBC president said he would consider having someone like Gregory step in again as news anchor on a “case-by-case” basis, adding that he thought that would only be needed during political events like elections.

“There was a sense at the time that we wanted Keith and Chris to be able to be themselves and not hold back, and that’s why David was put in,” Griffin said. “And it worked beautifully, and if we’re ever in a situation like that, I would do that again.”

557 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:12:57am

re: #554 Nevergiveup

re: #552 realwest

How cold is it suppose to be in DC next tuesday?

I hear Hell will be freezing over, if that is any indication.

558 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:13:38am

re: #522 Nevergiveup

re: #517 legalpad


But Witherspoon is moonbatty isn't she?


Yes she is - which is disgusting considering she is a decendant of one of the signers of the Declaration of Independance.

I just wish these people would keep their opinions to theirselves. I can't watch any of them anymore. Everytime I see them it just flashes in my mind how much they hate the very country that allowed them to profit so much in their own personal lives. The hypocrisy just stinks to high heaven!

559 spirochete  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:14:18am

re: #512 3 wood

re: #446 spirochete


Well, you first have to start out with what do you think would have been the consequences if the Fed's and Treasury did not do this?

If you think the answer is that not much different would have happened, then this was a bad deal all the way around.

If on the other hand, you are of the opinion (as I am) that the financial system was on the verge of total collapse, and the consequences of that would have been catastrophic, then this bail out, while not the ideal solution, has been/will continue to be better than doing nothing. I know that is not a popular opinion.

Some of this money should get repaid and the preferred stock will likely get bought back over the future years as these banks hopefully rebound in the next year or two and the economy starts growing again.

But there will be a lot of this that will never get repaid back and will have to be eaten. Part of the problem is it's dang hard to calculate the damage as long as the 'mark to market' requirement still exists in some form. Who knows what property values will be next month? Because we don't know that, it's impossible to figure out a solid absolute number to the damage to the mortgage backed security values.

I thought Dick Morris had a pretty good analogy the other night on O'Reilly. He pointed out that for many years the American economy got hooked on cheap credit like a heroin addict. Now it's time to kick the habit. The option is go cold turkey with the very good likelihood that the addict will die in the process, or switch the addict to methadone to survive the withdrawl. As Morris said, this bail out is the methadone.

But make no mistake, this whole bail out situation will be being paid off for decades to come.

I believe I have come down more on the second opinion, with you. I do wonder what the approach would have brought if gov't were to stand on the sidelines, watch the big ones collapse and use the money post facto to clean up. I guess one could argue they have done a bit of that already, but with such a highly leveraged credit system, the ramifications would've been worldwide and very painful, probably more than I could even proactively imagine.

So the "mark to market" stance is a shifting of goalposts. Granted this is not the best approach, but there stands the possibility that this may also provide an easier way out with rising values.

I like the heroin addict analogy. Kicking the credit habit will change everything. Everytime I see an entity "needing a bailout" I see someone saying "I played the game, too". Not that the game was a bad thing, but in retrospect, it exposed too many things to too many unforseen forces. Staying away from the drugs will be difficult, but I see it as a better way to plan for the future and a very American way to approach planning.

As always, I apprecite your input.

560 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:14:22am

re: #521 UFO TOFU

re: #493 aussiemagpie

Hi ya aussie! Seems like I've been checking in lately just after you've left. Hope things are good where you're at.

All's well at Chez Aussiemagpie...expecting this to be a good year!

And I'll have to stay up even later to see you around then?

Goodness I remember back in the olden days, when I stayed up until sunrise on occasions, chatting here, and then went to work!

Of course, age has caught up with me and now I need 5 hours sleep, not 5 minutes...

561 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:14:39am

re: #550 DaddyG

I notice he has faith in the constitutional process. Did he forget that the Mormons have constitutional rights to voice their opinion under the Bill of Rights attached to that constitution?

In the mind of a moonbat, only the left has constitutional rights.

conservatives, and people of faith, have the right to exist but only if they agree or at least keep their opinions to themsleves.

562 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:15:14am

re: #554 Nevergiveup

It is warming up. 37 and cloudy was the forecast last night. My daughter will be there, please do not pray for a blizzard or an asteroid to hit or anything.

563 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:16:01am

re: #545 loppyd
Well sure - I'd expect it to be that cold in Mass at this time of year, but I'm telling you, 13 degrees down here in the SOUTHLAND is really damn cold! Our houses and apartements weren't built with this cold in mind!
BTW, there must be 100 cars in our parking lot (that we can see) and there are still 98 of 'em still there!LOL!). And a lot of folks down here don't know how important it is to warm up your car in this cold before you drive it - the two that left, drivers got it, started up, revved up the engine and took off! Dumshits.
I sure hope you're keeping warm!

564 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:16:22am

re: #547 vapig

And it's his leaving out the Black vote on the issue that makes him dishonest.

565 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:16:30am

re: #526 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a FRIGID (13 degrees going up to 31 degrees) sunny and blue skied Charlotte.
How is eveyone doing this morning?


*Smooch*, left cheek, (did you shave this morning - I can feel bristles) :-)

566 Crux Australis  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:16:55am

re: #537 Rune

And I thought that the $A = ~68 US cents was bad.

567 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:17:18am

re: #551 Wyatt Earp

I have seen some of her without makeup. YIKES!

Another beneficiary of makeup - Cameron Diaz.

She made this brilliant statement during the 04 presidential campaign:

Referring to why women should vote...

"Women have so much to lose. I mean, we could lose the right to our bodies...
If you think that rape should be legal, then don't vote."

568 DaddyG  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:17:46am

re: #438 Nevergiveup

re: #432 3 wood

I can't go to any Movie in which a moonbat is involved and I am sad to say that now includes Mr. Hanks. I have also read with dismay his gushing praise of Obama. I guess talent in one area doesn't carry over to rational thought necessarily.

One one hand I have difficulty watching some stars because of their overt political nonsense (it just screams so loudly it colors the image of the characters they play) but on the other hand he is a very talented actor who can make me forget the other stuff. If I expect actors to act more and politic less, I can also keep my politics out of their box office as long as the content of their work is uplifting.

Mr. Hanks has done a few things I don't care for - but his public support of our WWII veterans and other worthwhile causes has given me more than a few warm fuzzies for him too.

569 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:18:05am

re: #546 Wyatt Earp
Well I sure hope you don't get called out or anything.
Our local police reported two deaths last evening/this morning of homeless folks freezing to death. God that's just so bad - and we have shelters down here too, but I reckon they didn't want to go to the shelters.
Stay safe out there my friend.

570 Learned Mother of Zion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:18:51am

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

There But For Fortune
Phil Ochs

Show me a prison, show me a jail
Show me a prisoner whose face is growing pale
And I'll show you a young man
With many reasons why
And there but for fortune, may go you or I

Show me an alley, show me a train
Show me a hobo who sleeps out in the rain
And I'll show you a young man
With many reasons why
And there but for fortune, may go you or I

Show me the whiskey stains on the floor
Show me a drunken man as he stumbles out the door
And I'll show you a young man
With many reasons why
And there but for fortune, may go you or I

Show me a country where the bombs had to fall
Show me the ruins of buildings once so tall
And I'll show you a young land
With many reasons why
And there but for fortune, may go you or I
You or I

Yeah, I know Ochs was a moonbat and a Maoist, and I know the song reflects that. But it's still pretty--and it goes with the "fortune" quote at the top of the thread.

Judy Collins, who recorded this song, sang for Clinton at the White House while bombs were falling on Bosnia.

571 Beach Lover  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:18:51am

burrr, 12 here right now, {real}.
changing the topic cause I have to post and run...
after hearing President Bush give his farewell speech I was reminded what postive things he always had to say about our country, it's military, the goodness of it's people and the strength of a sound democracy, all I could think was in contrast, we will be told for the next (hopefully only 4 years), is how bad everything is, how guilty we should feel if we can afford to even go out to dinner, and how foolish the military has been to think we have to run into every conflict. If you want to know who Chrissy and Olberman will hate...it's us. There will be nothing but problems and doom and gloom and of course...all Bush's fault. But make no mistake, Obama won't have solutions ...he will spend every moment just pointing out the problems.
Hey...it's what won him the election.

572 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:18:58am

re: #548 Ford_Prefect
ROTFLMAO! Well, there is that! LOL! How far didja have to drive?

573 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:19:14am

re: #553 Ford_Prefect

I liked her in her Mystic Pizza days, but then she started opening that really big mouth of hers and it all went out the window. And this is coming from someone who has a thing for redheads.

Her looks peaked in those two years.

One of my best friends is a redhead and she is gaawgeous!

574 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:20:47am

re: #569 realwest

re: #546 Wyatt Earp
Well I sure hope you don't get called out or anything.
Our local police reported two deaths last evening/this morning of homeless folks freezing to death. God that's just so bad - and we have shelters down here too, but I reckon they didn't want to go to the shelters.
Stay safe out there my friend.


Correct. My experience is that while there is room in our shelters, a lot of the homeless refuse to go there. It's sad.

575 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:20:55am
576 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:21:14am

re: #564 legalpad

re: #547 vapig

And it's his leaving out the Black vote on the issue that makes him dishonest.

Black AND hispanic vote. I'd say together they outnumber the Mormons!
But for the most part, Mormons are white, people of faith (which = bigots) and a legitimate target.

577 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:21:34am

re: #574 Wyatt Earp

Correct. My experience is that while there is room in our shelters, a lot of the homeless refuse to go there. It's sad.

Why is that?

578 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:21:43am

re: #563 realwest

This is out of the ordinary for any part of the country. Average temps in Jan are in the high 20's.

Some of your neighbors will get quite a shock if they have leather seats.

579 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:22:15am

re: #577 UFO TOFU

Why is that?

Mental illness is a huge factor. Paranoia. Very sad.

580 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:22:34am

re: #550 DaddyG Uh, if y'all read that story Hanks wasn't talking about the Mormon Church, he said " the truth is these people are some bizarre offshoot of the Mormon Church, and the truth is a lot of Mormons gave a lot of money to the church to make Prop-8 happen,” . That's a long way from saying the Mormon church defeated Prop 8 out there.

581 Learned Mother of Zion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:22:53am

re: #574 Wyatt Earp

Correct. My experience is that while there is room in our shelters, a lot of the homeless refuse to go there. It's sad.

The shelters have a policy: no booze, no drugs.

582 yochanan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:22:54am

ARAB politics is offen about clan and family you can be sure the fatah people are giving Israel intell on were the hamassholes are hiding

583 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:23:33am

re: #554 Nevergiveup
Not sure - last I heard was lower 30's, chance of light snow.

584 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:23:51am

re: #579 loppyd

Oh, I guess I could have that for a moment before I hit post.

585 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:24:06am

re: #558 vapig

Yes she is - which is disgusting considering she is a decendant of one of the signers of the Declaration of Independance.

I just wish these people would keep their opinions to theirselves. I can't watch any of them anymore. Everytime I see them it just flashes in my mind how much they hate the very country that allowed them to profit so much in their own personal lives. The hypocrisy just stinks to high heaven!

I saw a presentation in which she discusses her signing ancestor. She is quite proud of it. In fact, she pestered Norman Lear until he let her be involved in the presentation. It was a museum tour of an actual original copy of The Declaration of IndependenceI think she has kept relatively neutral in her comments on partisan issues. That is, relative to other Hollywooders.

586 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:24:21am

re: #572 realwest

ROTFLMAO! Well, there is that! LOL! How far didja have to drive?

About 20 miles. The car was just starting to warm up despite 15 minutes of warmup time before I got in.

587 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:24:41am

re: #557 Wyatt Earp
ROFL! Yeah, there's that, too! He, Hell freezing over, lol!

588 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:25:45am

re: #573 loppyd

Her looks peaked in those two years.

One of my best friends is a redhead and she is gaawgeous!

I would comment, but I am a happily married man.

589 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:25:59am

re: #579 loppyd

Mental illness is a huge factor. Paranoia. Very sad.

I used to do volunteer work with a shelter in Minneapolis, the shelters policy was to turn away those who had been drinking, or where suspected of using drugs.

590 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:26:30am

re: #562 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Uh, morning FBV - listen I don't want to worry you, but I've heard rumors that Al Gore will be there, so tell your daughter to dress as if a blizzard is coming that way!

591 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:26:30am

Get your Obama lava lamps, jigsaw puzzels and more HERE

Sheesh. "Ben & Jerry's is introducing a Yes Pecan flavor in honor of Obama's campaign slogan . . ."

592 ciaospirit  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:28:01am

re: #408 3 wood

I wonder if Bank of America's troubles have anything to do with their fondness of illegal immigrants. They did this in '07. Wonder how much bad debt came out of policies like this.

Bank of America launches credit card for illegal immigrants

Your text to link...

593 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:28:05am

re: #565 aussiemagpie
Good morning {aussie} and *smoooch* right back to you! And NO I didn't shave this morning, though I did brush my teeth!
I'm RETIRED damn it and I don't have to shave every damn day!
:)

594 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:28:05am

re: #577 UFO TOFU

re: #574 Wyatt Earp


Why is that?

Loppyd and Alouette hit it on the head. All of the above.

595 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:28:10am

re: #591 midwestgak

Get your Obama lava lamps, jigsaw puzzels and more HERE

Sheesh. "Ben & Jerry's is introducing a Yes Pecan flavor in honor of Obama's campaign slogan . . ."

I want a a John Kerry voo-doo doll with pins...

596 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:28:29am
597 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:28:51am


Boston Globe offers buyouts, layoffs possible


NEW YORK, Jan 15 (Reuters) - The Boston Globe will cut 12 percent of its newsroom staff through buyouts and possibly layoffs, the latest sign of how an advertising downturn is corroding the fortunes of U.S. newspapers.

The Globe, which is owned by the New York Times Co (NYT.N), is offering buyouts to all of its newsroom staff in an effort to cut up to 50 full-time employees, Editor Martin Baron told workers in a memo posted on the paper's Boston.com website on Thursday.

"While we hope to reach the goal through voluntary departures, we will resort to layoffs," Baron wrote. This would apply to both union and non-union workers, he added.

598 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:28:54am

re: #567 loppyd

re: #551 Wyatt Earp


Another beneficiary of makeup - Cameron Diaz.

She made this brilliant statement during the 04 presidential campaign:

Referring to why women should vote...

"Women have so much to lose. I mean, we could lose the right to our bodies...
If you think that rape should be legal, then don't vote."

She went on even more incoherantly after that idiot statement. Giving these dumber than dirt people a platform is so dangerous.

599 rain of lead  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:29:27am

Good morning Lizards,
tis a balmy 8 degrees here in middle tenn.
here is your gorebull warming solar update
the sun is still asleep ("hey, anybody got some jumper cables,this thing need's a boost") and the solar wind output is 356 km/s. WHEEE

600 bloodnok  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:29:55am

re: #504 loppyd

re: #498 Ford_Prefect


LOL. I was Princess Lea for Hallowen the year Star Wars came out. But no cinnabons because I had made the fatal error of getting a Dorothy Hamill pixie haircut. Oh the horror!

Ha! I was just a wee bairn, but I remember those haircuts. Tee Hee.

601 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:30:23am

re: #576 vapig

Black AND hispanic vote. I'd say together they outnumber the Mormons!
But for the most part, Mormons are white, people of faith (which = bigots) and a legitimate target.

You don't see PETA protesting leather at biker bars, do you?

602 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:30:27am

re: #589 Dustyvet

I used to do volunteer work with a shelter in Minneapolis, the shelters policy was to turn away those who had been drinking, or where suspected of using drugs.

Which would apply to a majority of those seeking shelter...

603 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:30:53am

re: #600 bloodnok

Ha! I was just a wee bairn, but I remember those haircuts. Tee Hee.

Hey, I was only 7!

604 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:31:10am

re: #556 3 wood
Hey my friend - y'all might want to reconsider your position on Tom Hanks - see my #580. I think you may have misunderstood what he said.

605 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:31:24am

re: #601 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #576 vapig


You don't see PETA protesting leather at biker bars, do you?


That would be FUN to watch
LOL

606 yochanan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:31:29am

chicagostan metro area air temp this morning -29 to -17 in the city.

today and yesterday was the coldest we have had in 13 years. plus we are in one of the snowest winters as well

607 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:31:48am

I have to get ready to pour some concrete. I want to get it done early, it's supposed to be 85 degrees today for the third day in a row.

Neener, neener.

608 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:32:20am

re: #601 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You don't see PETA protesting leather at biker bars, do you?

But Peta doesn't want you eating the Sea Kittens...

"Like their surface-dwelling cousins, the land kittens, sea kittens enjoy being petted. Their lack of arms makes it difficult for them to pet back, but they often gently rub against each other as a sign of affection."

[Link: www.peta.org...]

609 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:32:21am
610 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:32:34am

re: #570 Alouette

All Presidents have lives while wars happen. Bush gave up golf (toward the end of his presidency [IIRC], so, he gets a pass on that for me.

611 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:32:40am

re: #568 DaddyG
"but his public support of our WWII veterans and other worthwhile causes has given me more than a few warm fuzzies for him too."
Yep.

612 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:33:01am

re: #606 yochanan

chicagostan metro area air temp this morning -29 to -17 in the city.

today and yesterday was the coldest we have had in 13 years. plus we are in one of the snowest winters as well

In Round Lake Beach, I had to jump start the dog sled team...

613 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:33:06am

re: #607 UFO TOFU

I have to get ready to pour some concrete. I want to get it done early, it's supposed to be 85 degrees today for the third day in a row.

Neener, neener.

You must be out west. My friend lives in OC and is loving the weather out there right now.

614 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:33:19am

Lizards, here's a link to an interesting piece by Rich Lowry at NRO

Do We Really Want Another New Deal?
New Deal nostalgics forget the elements of Roosevelt’s program that were frankly absurd and economically ruinous.

By Rich Lowry

Barack Obama’s lefty admirers are agitating for a new New Deal. We’ll know that we’ve achieved that blessed state when the government destroys 6 million baby pigs—turning many of them into grease and fertilizer (anything but food)—to prop up the price of pork. Or when it plows under a quarter of the South’s cotton and slaughters pregnant cows.

American agricultural policy remains perverse to this day, but nobody is calling for the willy-nilly destruction of American crops and livestock as a means of checking deflation and fostering economic recovery. New Deal nostalgics forget all the elements of Franklin Roosevelt’s program that were frankly absurd and economically ruinous.

Should we want Obama to propose a quasi-militaristic program to empower business cartels to set prices, on the model of FDR’s National Recovery Administration? Should he take his cue from FDR and prosecute businesses that discount their products, giving strapped consumers a break? Should he triple taxes, hiking excise taxes on common consumer goods and imposing an entirely new payroll tax on employment? Should he crib from FDR’s speeches and demonize business and investors? Should he create government make-work jobs and pay people to clear trails in the national parks and unemployed artists to paint murals in post offices?

615 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:33:23am

re: #592 ciaospirit

I wonder if Bank of America's troubles have anything to do with their fondness of illegal immigrants. They did this in '07. Wonder how much bad debt came out of policies like this.

Bank of America launches credit card for illegal immigrants

Could be, doubt we will ever know

616 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:33:53am

re: #607 UFO TOFU

I have to get ready to pour some concrete. I want to get it done early, it's supposed to be 85 degrees today for the third day in a row.

Neener, neener.

Hare lip, hare lip. (Old joke)

617 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:33:56am

re: #593 realwest

re: #565 aussiemagpie
Good morning {aussie} and *smoooch* right back to you! And NO I didn't shave this morning, though I did brush my teeth!
I'm RETIRED damn it and I don't have to shave every damn day!
:)

Of course! :-) It's OK, I'll just slap on the nice soothing face cream to stop the gravel rash :-)

618 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:34:12am
619 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:34:24am

re: #609 Iron Fist

Exactly. Most people don't go after people who might f**k their s**t up!

620 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:34:52am
621 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:35:12am

re: #571 Beach Lover 12? I don't get this, you ARE south of us, even if not by a whole lot, and you're colder than we are?! Girl, y'all oughtta move up to North Carolina, at least - or down to Florida! LOL!
{Beach Lover}

622 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:35:19am

re: #611 realwest

"but his public support of our WWII veterans and other worthwhile causes has given me more than a few warm fuzzies for him too."
Yep.

And Forrest Gump served with the 9th Infantry Division in the movie...

623 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:35:24am

Good morning, all.

My thought for the morning...

The philosophy of the 'stimulus' package is a microcosm of the Obama campaign pledges: subsidize failure and penalize success.

624 bloodnok  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:35:39am

re: #605 ThinkRight

re: #601 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


re: #576 vapig


You don't see PETA protesting leather at biker bars, do you?


That would be FUN to watch
LOL

Well even with that haircut you looked better than I do right now. It's cooold this morning! I had to wear a hat, Loppy. A HAT. And you know what that means.

Hathead. Big time.

I look a fool.

625 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:35:44am

re: #591 midwestgak

Get your Obama lava lamps, jigsaw puzzels and more HERE

Sheesh. "Ben & Jerry's is introducing a Yes Pecan flavor in honor of Obama's campaign slogan . . ."

I think I speak for everyone when I say, ENOUGH!

626 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:35:45am

Some people, on both sides of the political spectrum, have stated that Obama's key nominations have been relatively safe, even commending him on keeping Gates. However, from what I have seen it looks like a lot of far left leaning and frankly corrupt people are going to be advising the new President. Here is a very interesting look at some of the issues with one such nominee.

Key Questions for Eric Holder, Nominee for United States Attorney General

From pardoning terrorists and making dubious legal arguments to attempt to force states to allow felons to vote to the infamous Holder Memorandum, Holder has demonstrated highly questionable judgment.

627 spirochete  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:35:58am

re: #615 3 wood

On that note, the jobs Prez Hussein wants to create are already there. They are just being babysat by illegal immigrants.

628 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:36:02am

re: #615 3 wood

Could be, doubt we will ever know

Don't think so. It was a prepaid card, hard to lose money on them. But they probably figured out a way, so, maybe I do think so.

629 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:36:35am

re: #601 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You don't see PETA protesting leather at biker bars, do you?

I would pay to watch that.

630 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:36:55am

re: #585 legalpad

re: #558 vapig


I saw a presentation in which she discusses her signing ancestor. She is quite proud of it. In fact, she pestered Norman Lear until he let her be involved in the presentation. It was a museum tour of an actual original copy of The Declaration of IndependenceI think she has kept relatively neutral in her comments on partisan issues. That is, relative to other Hollywooders.

I also have an ancestor who signed the Declaration of Independance - Benjamin Harrison. Her stance of supporting socialists tells me she has no respect for the Founders policies of limited government, personal responsibility and liberty.

631 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:37:12am

re: #575 Iron Fist
LOL! Good morning Bro' - is that FIVE above ?! And doncha y'all come bitching around here, your state gave us that idjit in the first place!

632 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:38:05am

re: #618 Leonidas Hoplite

Buh-bye.

It should just become the Boston office for the NYT. The paper is a joke now. Most of the stories are from AP, NYT or LA Times.

633 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:38:08am
634 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:38:15am

re: #601 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #576 vapig


You don't see PETA protesting leather at biker bars, do you?

LOL! Ding!

635 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:38:22am

The 'One' gave me a hat & I've got my very own corner: Biden Outlines Plans to Do More With Less Power

It's showtime in T minus 4; are you ready to really start clinging to your guns and bibles?

636 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:39:21am

re: #577 UFO TOFU
Hi there UFO TOFU! When I lived in NYC, many homeless wouldn't go to shelters because there was so much violence - assaults and rapes and what not in the shelters themselves. Rudy put armed guards in the shelters and it still didn't get the homeless into the shelters - I just don't know why they don't go to the shelters.

637 3 wood  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:39:36am

re: #604 realwest

My objection to Hanks is his saying anybody is "unAmerican" becasue they take a position different than him. I don;t care if he said this about this offshoot or that.

I understand your point, I just wish Hanks was not using his celebrity to label others negatively for taking a political position he disagrees with.

638 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:40:10am

re: #626 Ford_Prefect

I like the Gates appointment and I'm willing to give a pass on most of the others since he won the election.

The Attorney General, SecState, Tresury, Energy and EPA appointments all seem bad. I would shed no tears if any of them got pilloried to save the country later.

639 Render  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:40:32am

re: #609 Iron Fist

Ingrid Newkirk has exactly that spelled out in her will.

If she stumbled into a Red & White watering hole they might just oblige her.

FREE
OF
CHARGE,
R

640 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:41:12am

re: #625 Wyatt Earp

re: #591 midwestgak


Get your Obama lava lamps, jigsaw puzzels and more HERE

Sheesh. "Ben & Jerry's is introducing a Yes Pecan flavor in honor of Obama's campaign slogan . . ."


I think I speak for everyone when I say, ENOUGH!

Here! Here! Egad - here in the DC metro area his face is EVERYWHERE! Yesterday at the checkout stand they actually had airbrushed Obama COOKIES! Enough to make me lose MY cookies! Gag!

641 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:41:56am

re: #625 Wyatt Earp

I think I speak for everyone when I say, ENOUGH!

New Pepsi campaign: Obama’s about to “refresh our nation”

642 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:42:13am

Sad news.

News Alert: Andrew Wyeth, Painter, Dies at 91

643 Peter Verkooijen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:42:18am

Why is Sean Hannity all of a sudden best buddies with Don Imus? I thought Imus was a Democrat. Does getting banned for a semi-racist outburst now make him "one of us"?

Sean Hannity is the typical clueless conservative.

644 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:43:30am

re: #630 vapig

re: #585 legalpad


re: #558 vapig


I saw a presentation in which she discusses her signing ancestor. She is quite proud of it. In fact, she pestered Norman Lear until he let her be involved in the presentation. It was a museum tour of an actual original copy of The Declaration of IndependenceI think she has kept relatively neutral in her comments on partisan issues. That is, relative to other Hollywooders.


I also have an ancestor who signed the Declaration of Independance - Benjamin Harrison. Her stance of supporting socialists tells me she has no respect for the Founders policies of limited government, personal responsibility and liberty.


Unless an actor shows an ability to think, who cares what they spew. By definition their job is to read lines given by others. It is not to think of their own lines.

645 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:43:58am
646 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:44:02am

re: #633 Iron Fist

re: #619 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hence the kid-glove treatment the Mohammedans get form people who otherwise show nothing but contempt for religion. It almost makes one wonder if the Baptists should have a militant wing...

Does our penchant for making casseroles count?

647 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:44:13am

re: #643 Peter Verkooijen

Just not nuts about Sean. The term "useful idiot" comes to mind.

648 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:44:35am

re: #595 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - good morning my friend! How are ya today?
Uh, why settle for a doll?! I mean we could um, er, ah
nevermind, don't want to get booted off of LGF! Pick me up a doll too, would ya?!

649 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:45:05am

re: #640 vapig

Even the Partridge Family in Teen Magazine didn't get this much attention.// :)

650 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:45:49am

re: #646 vapig

Does our penchant for making casseroles count?

Baptists do have a fairly militant wing. Met them when I took some vegan chicken salad to pot luck thingy.

651 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:45:49am

re: #643 Peter Verkooijen

Why is Sean Hannity all of a sudden best buddies with Don Imus? I thought Imus was a Democrat. Does getting banned for a semi-racist outburst now make him "one of us"?

Sean Hannity is the typical clueless conservative.


Hannity needs to get a clue
He is a Rush wanna be
He could take his rants down a notch and I could listen maybe

652 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:45:51am

re: #552 realwest

Morning my friend - yeah, for the first time in I don't know how long, I watched the weather channel today - damn it's cold everywhere today except for Florida and the Gulf Coast states - you guys in Illinois may have to burn some of your politico's at the stake just to stay warm! LOL!
Well, all I can say is it was 16 when I woke up at 7:00Am and it's now DROPPED to 13 degrees and I'm cold INDOORS.
No frickin' insulation down here at all!

Mr DT booked himself a business trip to Florida and when I asked him how the weather was yesterday when I called him from South Jersey, he said:

"You don't want to know."

653 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:46:05am

re: #648 realwest

Hey Dusty - good morning my friend! How are ya today?
Uh, why settle for a doll?! I mean we could um, er, ah
nevermind, don't want to get booted off of LGF! Pick me up a doll too, would ya?!

Doing well, and you got it...soon as I find one...:)

654 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:46:08am

Good morning and happy Friday to {all y'all}.

655 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:46:21am

re: #640 vapig

Here! Here! Egad - here in the DC metro area his face is EVERYWHERE! Yesterday at the checkout stand they actually had airbrushed Obama COOKIES! Enough to make me lose MY cookies! Gag!

I'm really not sure what the problem is with campaign and presidential memorabilia. It's a practice as old as this country, and in general, everything marketable has been "ramped" up over the years, and this is just a continuation of all that.

My goodness, as conservatives we should see it as free-market capitalism.

It would be different if it was suddenly a "new" phenomena, but it's not, it's just that modern marketing, manufacturing and good old Americans love for the "mighty dollar" has made it all more accessible.

656 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:46:53am
657 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:46:59am

re: #592 ciaospirit
Morning ciaospirit! I don't know what 3 wood will say - and he knows this stuff better than I do, but I'd think that credit card scam had very little to do with BoA's troubles - I think buying Merrill Lynch's gazillions of toxic mortgages had a lot more to do with it and they did that with a nudge from the Fed, so I suspect they'll get that Fed bailout money.

658 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:47:04am

re: #638 DeafDog

I like the Gates appointment and I'm willing to give a pass on most of the others since he won the election.

The Attorney General, SecState, Tresury, Energy and EPA appointments all seem bad. I would shed no tears if any of them got pilloried to save the country later.

Granted. He won the election and has the right to nominate whoever he wants. I am just saying that his nominations say a lot about who he is. The media just continues to give him a pass on all of his associations, even as they are being put into positions of authority. I can't help but think that the few bones he is throwing the right, like Gates, is just being done to have a fall guy later.

659 Render  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:47:33am

re: #339 MandyManners

Got it.

COVERED,
R

660 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:48:37am

re: #643 Peter Verkooijen

Why is Sean Hannity all of a sudden best buddies with Don Imus? I thought Imus was a Democrat. Does getting banned for a semi-racist outburst now make him "one of us"?

Sean Hannity is the typical clueless conservative.


Imus may be liberal, but he does not suffer fools lightly. I've heard him dress down Kerry and others for saying stupid stuff.

661 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:48:44am

re: #597 loppyd
Yay! Good news for a change! I mean I'm sorry for the folks getting laid off, but not at all sorry that the Globe is in deep financial distress!

662 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:49:31am

re: #630 vapig

Her stance of supporting socialists

I am unaware of this beyond her probable support of Obama. You may be right, but many Democrats cannot bring themselves to admit that O's stated views are socialist. They simply support the Democratic candidate.

663 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:49:53am

re: #642 loppyd

Sad news.

News Alert: Andrew Wyeth, Painter, Dies at 91

Christina's World

Seems so simple, but is so deep.

664 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:50:02am

Howie Carr helps to keep me sane while living in this state.

Media channeling too much Barack Obama

All I can say is, thank God for the NFL playoffs. That’s the only TV I’ll be watching this weekend. This is one of those historical moments - like the death of Princess Di, or anything involving the Kennedy family - where the only way to avoid the overkill is to go to total radio silence. It is for moments like this that the Turner Classic Movie channel exists.
665 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:50:46am

re: #644 DeafDog

re: #630 vapig


re: #585 legalpad


re: #558 vapig


I saw a presentation in which she discusses her signing ancestor. She is quite proud of it. In fact, she pestered Norman Lear until he let her be involved in the presentation. It was a museum tour of an actual original copy of The Declaration of IndependenceI think she has kept relatively neutral in her comments on partisan issues. That is, relative to other Hollywooders.


I also have an ancestor who signed the Declaration of Independance - Benjamin Harrison. Her stance of supporting socialists tells me she has no respect for the Founders policies of limited government, personal responsibility and liberty.

Unless an actor shows an ability to think, who cares what they spew. By definition their job is to read lines given by others. It is not to think of their own lines.

My real problem with them (my ONLY problem, actually) is the use of their celebrity to give them airtime in which to spew their anti-American bile as though they are sages of some sort. The press fawns all over them and the weak think they are hearing wise words from on High. They are actors - they shouldn't have that sort of power or influence.

666 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:51:15am

re: #602 loppyd
Hey lopps - most of the folks seeking shelter in NYC were mentally ill. See under a DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR, NYS decided it was too expensive to keep mentally ill folks in State run and paid for institutions so one day they just let 'em all out on the streets.
Doncha just love the DEMOCRATS?!

667 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:51:43am

re: #655 Walter L. Newton

Really? You don't think all this is OVER the TOP? Commemorative coins and plates. Come on. Any other living president had his mug on a commemorative coin? I don't remember one. I could be wrong./

668 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:51:52am

re: #613 loppyd

I'm about an hour east of there.

669 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:52:14am

re: #405 Erik The Red

re: #401 MandyManners


Don't let run to long think about the environment and green house gases 2M.

Fuck greenhouse gases.

670 Texas Heathen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:52:33am

re: #654 redstateredneck

Good morning and happy Friday to {all y'all}.

{redstate} Wooohooo Friday!
*doing the snoopy happy dance*

671 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:52:54am

re: #650 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #646 vapig


Baptists do have a fairly militant wing. Met them when I took some vegan chicken salad to pot luck thingy.

As a Baptist I can attest that that would be heresy!
/ ;^D

672 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:52:55am

re: #607 UFO TOFU
"it's supposed to be 85 degrees today for the third day in a row."
Thibbit! (geez, it's really hard to type a Bronx cheer!).

673 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:53:16am

re: #667 midwestgak

Really? You don't think all this is OVER the TOP? Commemorative coins and plates. Come on. Any other living president had his mug on a commemorative coin? I don't remember one. I could be wrong./

Let's start with plates...

[Link: www.greenmuseum.org...]

Please...

674 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:53:47am

re: #663 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Christina's World

Seems so simple, but is so deep.

I have that print - love it. Having spent much time in Maine I have seen many a field and house just like it.

I also have this one.

And this one.

675 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:54:10am

re: #658 Ford_Prefect

I've thought about that with Gates to. He definitly needs to protect himself.

Hillary at SecState is just bizarre with the bribe money channel being funneled into the "Clinton Foundation."

Whener I see Holder I think of the Marc Rich pardon...also a whacked choice.

The EPA head is an avowed socialist...bizarre.

And the Tresury guy is an avowed tax cheat, which on the surface is bizare, too, but maybe Obama's is setting him up as a role model?

676 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:54:29am

Morning all...

Watched President Bush's farewell last night. While I disagree with some recent developments and stands he has taken he has kept us safe from the evil that surrounds us.

I am saddened to think that everything he believes in; the sanctity of all life, taking the fight aggressively to the terrorists, national security, will all be gutted and forgotten by the incoming administration. I am sad.

Obama is a horrible mistake, although I pray he sees the light and realizes that terrorism is very real. I won't be holding my breath though.

677 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:54:34am

re: #672 realwest

"it's supposed to be 85 degrees today for the third day in a row."
Thibbit! (geez, it's really hard to type a Bronx cheer!).

678 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:55:27am

re: #666 realwest

Hey lopps - most of the folks seeking shelter in NYC were mentally ill. See under a DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR, NYS decided it was too expensive to keep mentally ill folks in State run and paid for institutions so one day they just let 'em all out on the streets.
Doncha just love the DEMOCRATS?!

Same thing happened in MA under Dukakis.

679 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:55:36am
680 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:55:47am

re: #641 Dustyvet

re: #625 Wyatt Earp


New Pepsi campaign: Obama’s about to “refresh our nation”

Looks like I'll be drinking Coke from now on.

681 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:55:49am

re: #620 Iron Fist
Hell Bro', PETA hasn't been within hollerin distance of
SANITY in - oh, forever! LOL!

682 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:56:24am

re: #665 vapig

They are actors - they shouldn't have that sort of power or influence.


As long as people pay attention to them, they'll have it. How many People, US, and other assorted crap magazines are sold because America eats up celebrity?

683 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:56:32am

re: #673 Walter L. Newton

re: #667 midwestgak


Let's start with plates...

[Link: www.greenmuseum.org...]

Please...

Looks to me like those plates are one of a kind. Exhibited in an art gallery.

684 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:56:34am

re: #597 loppyd


Boston Globe offers buyouts, layoffs possible

They should start at the top and work their way down.

G-d deals with the enemies of Israel, and I count the Glob squarely in that side. If I said that in my email to them on why I canceled my subscription, though, they'd think I was crazy.

685 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:56:34am

re: #662 legalpad

re: #630 vapig


I am unaware of this beyond her probable support of Obama. You may be right, but many Democrats cannot bring themselves to admit that O's stated views are socialist. They simply support the Democratic candidate.

Can't recall the exact where, when and what, but this moonbat crap started a few years ago. Probably with some mouthing off about the war, our soldiers and Bush in general. Knowing her ancestry it was a WTF moment for me and I've never looked at her the same way again.

686 Texas Heathen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:56:41am

re: #669 MandyManners

Fuck greenhouse gases.

Sorry but I don't F*ck anything green.

687 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:56:51am

re: #667 midwestgak

Really? You don't think all this is OVER the TOP? Commemorative coins and plates. Come on. Any other living president had his mug on a commemorative coin? I don't remember one. I could be wrong./

And an example of a coin...

[Link: www.ioffer.com...]

Look this stuff up, you finds tons of it, all over the internet, plates, coins, pin backs and so on and so on.

688 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:56:58am

re: #665 vapig

Point taken.

Of course, they only have influence over people who let them have that influence. Unfortunately, too many allow that to happen.

689 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:57:07am

re: #679 Iron Fist

I can't recall this level of adoration being leveled on any other past President. Not even Reagan's Second term, and he won the Presidency about as solid as you could think of.

It's the worship thing that troubles me most. That kind of shit can lead to the gravest abuses of power, with the worshippers excusing or even cheering the abuses as proof that Dear Leader was doing things right.

The bigger they are the harder they fall. I heard that some where?

690 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:57:11am

re: #655 Walter L. Newton

Capitalism may be a motivator (ironic considering the anti-capitalist stance of Obama), but the effect is not just money making. The ubiquity of an image is key to it's acceptance. There's a reason Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc. plastered their faces on every available surface. While the cookies, commemorative plates, clothing, etc. featuring Obama are not the same as state-sponsored propaganda, they are the work of his most ardent adherents.
Get ready for the portraits of Obama hanging in every public school, I'm betting that that's next.
Seeing Obama everywhere will help build and fortify (almost subliminally) the cult of personality that is Barry.
Does anyone think that the relatively talent-free Britney Spears would have broken sales records set by The Beatles, Elvis, etc. if her face hadn't been plastered all over television, magazines and the Internet for years? I don't.

691 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:57:12am

re: #672 realwest

Sorry real, I'd send ya some if I could.

692 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:57:22am

re: #679 Iron Fist

I am hoping that his fall will not be too hard and too fast. I do not think the weaklings that supported him could take the pain.

I wish him success (the way that I define success).

693 Learned Mother of Zion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:57:31am

re: #608 Walter L. Newton

But Peta doesn't want you eating the Sea Kittens...

"Like their surface-dwelling cousins, the land kittens, sea kittens enjoy being petted. Their lack of arms makes it difficult for them to pet back, but they often gently rub against each other as a sign of affection."

[Link: www.peta.org...]

They should call them sea puppies, you can't teach silly tricks to kitten.

694 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:57:33am

re: #675 DeafDog

Holder saying he thinks waterboarding is torture is enough for me... I wonder how the Obama-ites will get information out of the terrorists... Ask them if they want some tea?

695 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:57:34am

re: #676 tfc3rid

Morning all...

Watched President Bush's farewell last night. While I disagree with some recent developments and stands he has taken he has kept us safe from the evil that surrounds us.

I am saddened to think that everything he believes in; the sanctity of all life, taking the fight aggressively to the terrorists, national security, will all be gutted and forgotten by the incoming administration. I am sad.

Obama is a horrible mistake, although I pray he sees the light and realizes that terrorism is very real. I won't be holding my breath though.

I will always be proud of my TWO votes for him. He kept me and my family safe and he never - ever - let polls drive his decisions.

696 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:57:43am

re: #670 Texas Heathen

re: #654 redstateredneck


{redstate} Wooohooo Friday!
*doing the snoopy happy dance*

Shake that thang!

697 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:58:04am

re: #686 Texas Heathen

Sorry but I don't F*ck anything green.

Irish gals on St. Patties?

698 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:58:05am

re: #687 Walter L. Newton

Firewall thingy.

699 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:58:15am

re: #683 midwestgak

Looks to me like those plates are one of a kind. Exhibited in an art gallery.

Please please please add a sarcasm tag to that. Please!

700 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:58:23am

re: #664 loppyd

Gotta love Howie.

701 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:58:43am

re: #665 vapig

My only point was that I have never heard anything anti-American or hateful, or even very political out of Reese Witherspoon. I have heard her disqualify herself on such subjects. Perhaps she has said or done something that belies that, that I am unaware of - then whoever is aware of it can post a link or a YouTube or something. Some have commented that she is "hot". This is not relevant to my view. The hottest women I know are conservative.

702 Learned Mother of Zion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:58:47am

re: #694 tfc3rid

Holder saying he thinks waterboarding is torture is enough for me... I wonder how the Obama-ites will get information out of the terrorists... Ask them if they want some tea?

They will show them nude pictures of Helen Thomas.

703 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:58:55am

re: #654 redstateredneck

Good morning and happy Friday to {all y'all}.

G'day {darls} and Happy Yesterday to you :-)

704 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:58:58am

re: #687 Walter L. Newton

And an example of a coin...

[Link: www.ioffer.com...]

Look this stuff up, you finds tons of it, all over the internet, plates, coins, pin backs and so on and so on.

Let's see how fast that junk starts showing up at garage sales...:) Once "the one" is in office.

705 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:59:01am

re: #670 Texas Heathen

Hey ya Heathen, how goes it? Evidently you've made enough unconscionable sums of money to hang out for a bit?

706 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:59:10am

re: #679 Iron Fist

You are right. There is a President and then there is hero worship and idolatry... Obama's people, fans and media are really pushing him to be something incredibly special. To me, he's just another lying, cheating, scamming politician... Right out of the Chicago Machine. Dangerous... Naive...

707 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:59:12am

re: #684 Kosh's Shadow

They should start at the top and work their way down.

G-d deals with the enemies of Israel, and I count the Glob squarely in that side. If I said that in my email to them on why I canceled my subscription, though, they'd think I was crazy.

The next time you get a solicitation in the mail send it back to them empty. It makes a statement and uses their stamp. :)

708 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:59:15am

More on the Globe - I thought they were having trouble when they kept trying to get me to keep my subscription.
Well, I did explain why; sent email to 3 editors. I haven't heard back, but I didn't expect to.

709 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:59:23am

re: #702 Alouette

Sometimes? You're just not funny!

710 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:59:28am

re: #679 Iron Fist

I can't recall this level of adoration being leveled on any other past President. Not even Reagan's Second term, and he won the Presidency about as solid as you could think of.

It's the worship thing that troubles me most. That kind of shit can lead to the gravest abuses of power, with the worshippers excusing or even cheering the abuses as proof that Dear Leader was doing things right.

I wasn't commenting on the "worship" aspect. I was commenting on the fact that coins and plates and other items imprinted with the image of a politician is not new.

The flip side, yes there seems to be an cult of personality developing up around Obama. But, look at Teddy Roosevelt, this guy was like a "super hero" of his time.

So, yes we should be careful, but no, this is not totally unique.

711 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 6:59:39am

re: #642 loppyd
Oh damn. That is sad news indeed {loppyd}. RIP mr. Wyeth and thank you for your body of work.

712 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:00:36am

re: #693 Alouette

They should call them sea puppies, you can't teach silly tricks to kitten.


Yeah but can it be used on moon bats...:)

713 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:00:48am

And, in a moment of horror last night, I went over to visit my dad for a while (broke his wrist) and noticed my mom had a 'peace scarf'... AHHH!

Someone gave it to her for Christmas and she had no idea about it...

714 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:00:56am

re: #679 Iron Fist

The obama campaign was a cult. So the hero worship like Caesar entering Rome was to be expected.

We'll see how long it lasts.

715 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:01:15am
716 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:01:16am

re: #685 vapig

Probably with some mouthing off about the war, our soldiers and Bush in general.

That does not sound consistent with much else I have seen her say. Maybe it was someone similar. But - I'm sure you heard what you heard.

717 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:01:26am

re: #703 aussiemagpie

re: #654 redstateredneck


G'day {darls} and Happy Yesterday to you :-)

{aussie}
Enjoying a sip of the old chardy?

718 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:01:38am

re: #690 Lincolntf

Capitalism may be a motivator (ironic considering the anti-capitalist stance of Obama), but the effect is not just money making. The ubiquity of an image is key to it's acceptance. There's a reason Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc. plastered their faces on every available surface. While the cookies, commemorative plates, clothing, etc. featuring Obama are not the same as state-sponsored propaganda, they are the work of his most ardent adherents.
Get ready for the portraits of Obama hanging in every public school, I'm betting that that's next.
Seeing Obama everywhere will help build and fortify (almost subliminally) the cult of personality that is Barry.
Does anyone think that the relatively talent-free Britney Spears would have broken sales records set by The Beatles, Elvis, etc. if her face hadn't been plastered all over television, magazines and the Internet for years? I don't.

You were raised Catholic. Did you go to Catholic school? Did you NEVER see a picture of John F. Kennedy right along side of the pope in someone's office in school, or the rectory, or the convent, or in other public places in a Catholic church.

I have.

719 akak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:02:01am

re: #638 DeafDog

re: #626 Ford_Prefect

I like the Gates appointment and I'm willing to give a pass on most of the others since he won the election.

The Attorney General, SecState, Tresury, Energy and EPA appointments all seem bad. I would shed no tears if any of them got pilloried to save the country later.

It will be hard for Shrillary to be worse than Condi/Powell, I'm sure she'll try though.

Won't be long before Condi's words are being mistaken for Pat Buchanon's.

720 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:02:06am

re: #713 tfc3rid

And, in a moment of horror last night, I went over to visit my dad for a while (broke his wrist) and noticed my mom had a 'peace scarf'... AHHH!

Someone gave it to her for Christmas and she had no idea about it...

Did she think it was actually a peace scarf or just a black and white scarf to keep her warm?

721 yochanan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:02:22am

re: #595 Dustyvet

I want a a John Kerry voo-doo doll with pins...

i want a hillary nut cracker

722 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:02:25am

re: #710 Walter L. Newton

Come on Walter... The amount of ball-washing that the media is doing to anything touching Obama is a hugely dangerous thing. If they worship him, they will also cover anything and everything up...

723 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:02:36am

re: #707 loppyd

The next time you get a solicitation in the mail send it back to them empty. It makes a statement and uses their stamp. :)

I haven't received real mail from them. They probably will try to call, in which case, I can say "Talk to my dogs, because the only use I can think of for your paper is lining for their crates."

724 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:02:50am

re: #652 DistantThunder
LOL! But I'll bet that he isn't feeling even a little bit guilty over it either! LOL!
How are you today, besides cold, I mean?

725 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:02:58am

re: #721 yochanan

i want a hillary nut cracker

ROFLMAO...:)

726 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:03:27am

re: #654 redstateredneck
Hey, good morning {red} how are ya doing today?

727 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:03:40am

re: #720 loppyd

Did she think it was actually a peace scarf or just a black and white scarf to keep her warm?

What is a "peace scarf"? And - has anyone heard of the term "Tramp Stamp"?

728 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:03:45am

re: #718 Walter L. Newton

You were raised Catholic. Did you go to Catholic school? Did you NEVER see a picture of John F. Kennedy right along side of the pope in someone's office in school, or the rectory, or the convent, or in other public places in a Catholic church.

I have.

I swear JFK & Jesus portraits were sold two for one here in Boston.

729 Maximu§  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:03:47am

Hope this is not a repeat post:

Protesters label Redford an enemy of the poor...

The protesters, led by the Congress of Racial Equality's national spokesman Niger Innis, suggested Redford should "relinquish his wealth" and live like a poor person.

730 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:03:51am

re: #715 Iron Fist

I don't want him to fail but I certainly do not want him to succeed. You are correct in that either way, the Conservative movement, which already seems to be a very small minority, will become even less of a figure on the national scene.

731 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:03:57am

re: #689 Nevergiveup

re: #679 Iron Fist


The bigger they are the harder they fall. I heard that some where?


We can only Hope you are right

732 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:09am

re: #698 midwestgak

Firewall thingy.

Ok, if you look up COMMEMORATIVE plates, coins, president etc on Ebay, Google etc. You will find articles going back a hundred and more years.

It's nothing new.

733 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:12am

re: #718 Walter L. Newton

The portrait of JFK that hung in so many offices/schools is exactly what I mean. There are (literally, I have no doubt) hundreds of thousands of MA voters who vote "Kennedy" every time they see it on a ballot for that very reason.

734 J.S.  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:13am

re: #679 Iron Fist

I think (at times) the adulation is really over the top...(maybe not so much the selling of memorabilia -- that can be given a pass -- what I find problematic/troubling is when teachers have children doing a "mosaic" of Obama's face as an art project (in a field/school play-yard, the children collect different colored objects, then match them with the outline of Obama's face drawn on the ground); or those marching/singing/chanting children about Dear Leader, etc, etc...)

735 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:14am

re: #717 redstateredneck

{aussie}
Enjoying a sip of the old chardy?


Lets splurge! Bring us some fresh wine! The freshest you've got - this year! No more of this old stuff.
736 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:27am

re: #720 loppyd

She thought it was apatterened scarf.

737 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:27am

re: #722 tfc3rid

Come on Walter... The amount of ball-washing that the media is doing to anything touching Obama is a hugely dangerous thing. If they worship him, they will also cover anything and everything up...

Just like they did during the campaign.

738 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:32am

re: #682 redstateredneck

re: #665 vapig


As long as people pay attention to them, they'll have it. How many People, US, and other assorted crap magazines are sold because America eats up celebrity?

Granted - and I've never been a "star" gazer. However, gazing at the "beautiful" people and what they wear to Oscars is a long shot from taking them seriously when it comes to important gown up matters.

I'll also grant that 60 years ago most of the Hollywood "stars" not only actively supported America in WWII, they actually enlisted to protect her.

They don't make em like they used to!

739 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:34am

re: #721 yochanan

re: #595 Dustyvet


i want a hillary nut cracker

Isn't that redundant?

740 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:36am

re: #692 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am hoping that his fall will not be too hard and too fast. I do not think the weaklings that supported him could take the pain.

I wish him success (the way that I define success).

Let's assume (safely, IMHO) that Obama begins to fail.
The real problem is discourse with the LLL mental midgets on why that's happening.
In order to correct something, you have to convince supporters of the failing policy that the direction is wrong.

Which means you have to join the conversation as a Moby.
I've never been able to do that.
Those people simply do not tolerate constructive criticism.

741 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:37am

re: #721 yochanan

re: #595 Dustyvet


i want a hillary nut cracker

Buy two brass balls.

742 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:39am

The Franklin Mint is fair and balanced. They have a coin for every president.
;-)

743 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:41am

re: #694 tfc3rid

If the need arises, team Obama will do intellectual sommesaults once in office and reconsider their opinion of waterboarding. It'll be fun to watch the justifications.

744 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:45am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area, where Chasey Sullenberger is being rightfully lauded as a hero among heroes - the boat crews who raced to save all the passengers on board the stricken US Airways flight have many reasons to be thankful. Investigators are looking over the plane, and it's currently tied up at Battery Park City awaiting being lifted out of the icy Hudson River for closer inspection of the engines to determine just what went wrong.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the world, Gazans honor and consider a terror master a hero. Thousands turn out for the funeral of Said Siam, a terror master responsible for untold death and misery in Gaza.

In the former, we laud a man as a hero for saving lives. In the latter, Gazans celebrate a mass murderer.

That, in a nutshell, is why Israel must fight to victory in Operation Cast Lead.

745 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:47am

re: #655 Walter L. Newton
Yep. And good morning to you Walter!

746 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:04:52am

re: #727 legalpad

What is a "peace scarf"? And - has anyone heard of the term "Tramp Stamp"?

Tramp Stamp = Tattoo on the lower back

/nice thing to wake up to, NOT!

Good morning all!

747 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:05:06am

re: #728 loppyd

I swear JFK & Jesus portraits were sold two for one here in Boston.

You got it. Presidential commemorative items are nothing new.

748 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:05:14am

re: #706 tfc3rid

re: #679 Iron Fist

You are right. There is a President and then there is hero worship and idolatry... Obama's people, fans and media are really pushing him to be something incredibly special. To me, he's just another lying, cheating, scamming politician... Right out of the Chicago Machine. Dangerous... Naive...

True, you do not come up through the Chicago Machine & stay clean.
Add to that, I can think of no other pol that ever defended denial of medical care to an infant born of a botched abortion.
BHO is a whole nother cat.

749 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:05:37am

re: #717 redstateredneck

re: #703 aussiemagpie


re: #654 redstateredneck


G'day {darls} and Happy Yesterday to you :-)


{aussie}
Enjoying a sip of the old chardy?

Of course! Must keep this Aussie FNDT going - single handed!

750 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:05:42am

Speaking of the JFK portraits, etc., my mom's Catholic school has the official Presidential photo in the office. However, the Principal refuses to post the Obama photo. She will repost a picture of Pope John Paul II.

751 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:05:55am

re: #688 DeafDog

re: #665 vapig

Point taken.

Of course, they only have influence over people who let them have that influence. Unfortunately, too many allow that to happen.

Aye! We're breeding drones!

752 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:05:55am

re: #727 legalpad

re: #720 loppyd


What is a "peace scarf"? And - has anyone heard of the term "Tramp Stamp"?


Yeah

753 UFO TOFU  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:06:22am

The sun's up, gotta roll. Hope everyone's Friday is excellent!

754 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:06:23am

re: #663 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Christina's World

Seems so simple, but is so deep.

He lived not ten minutes from me...my father worked on the Kuerner Farm when he was a kid.

Sad times in the valley today.

755 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:06:26am

re: #732 Walter L. Newton

re: #698 midwestgak


Ok, if you look up COMMEMORATIVE plates, coins, president etc on Ebay, Google etc. You will find articles going back a hundred and more years.

It's nothing new.

I never said it was new. I said it's OVER the TOP.

756 yochanan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:06:29am

re: #612 Dustyvet

right now dogs all over chicagostan are learning to use cat boxes AND LOVING IT

757 Texas Heathen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:06:34am

re: #705 UFO TOFU

hey tofu.
Oh yeah I'm just rolling in it.
BTW m says hey.

758 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:06:41am

re: #746 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Tramp Stamp = Tattoo on the lower back

/nice thing to wake up to, NOT!

Good morning all!

Really lower back. It's seems that many young women get them.

759 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:06:47am

re: #726 realwest

re: #654 redstateredneck
Hey, good morning {red} how are ya doing today?

I'm good, {real}. Happy it's Friday and my baby will be coming home from college for the weekend; although I think she misses the dachshund pack more than she does her father and I.

760 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:06:51am

re: #727 legalpad

What is a "peace scarf"? And - has anyone heard of the term "Tramp Stamp"?

peace scarf

tramp stamp

761 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:07:03am

re: #748 opnion

True, you do not come up through the Chicago Machine & stay clean.
Add to that, I can think of no other pol that ever defended denial of medical care to an infant born of a botched abortion.
BHO is a whole nother cat.

There is no emotion there... no real caring... like Rush says, he's not cool, he's cold.

762 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:07:12am

re: #670 Texas Heathen
Hey there {Texas Heathen} I'd do a snoopy happy dance but my butt's frozen to this chair!

763 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:07:30am

re: #727 legalpad

re: #720 loppyd


What is a "peace scarf"? And - has anyone heard of the term "Tramp Stamp"?

Definitely know what a tramp stamp is...

764 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:08:18am

re: #744 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area, where Chasey Sullenberger is being rightfully lauded as a hero among heroes - the boat crews who raced to save all the passengers on board the stricken US Airways flight have many reasons to be thankful. Investigators are looking over the plane, and it's currently tied up at Battery Park City awaiting being lifted out of the icy Hudson River for closer inspection of the engines to determine just what went wrong.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the world, Gazans honor and consider a terror master a hero. Thousands turn out for the funeral of Said Siam, a terror master responsible for untold death and misery in Gaza.

In the former, we laud a man as a hero for saving lives. In the latter, Gazans celebrate a mass murderer.

That, in a nutshell, is why Israel must fight to victory in Operation Cast Lead.

The pilot is a former fighter pilot and also is a consultant on airline safety, in particular, crew management. Those people were VERY lucky to have such a pilot.

765 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:08:23am

re: #758 legalpad

Really lower back. It's seems that many young women get them.

and they look like crap. IMHO.

Typically worn with hip-hugger jeans that the girl really shouldn't be wearing, if you know what I mean.

766 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:08:30am

re: #723 Kosh's Shadow

I haven't received real mail from them. They probably will try to call, in which case, I can say "Talk to my dogs, because the only use I can think of for your paper is lining for their crates."

They have called my office before. Big mistake.

767 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:08:32am

re: #738 vapig

They don't make em like they used to!


Amen to that. We need an Audie Murphy or two.

768 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:08:58am

re: #765 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

and they look like crap. IMHO.

Typically worn with hip-hugger jeans that the girl really shouldn't be wearing, if you know what I mean.

see my 760

769 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:09:01am

re: #719 akak

re: #638 DeafDog


re: #626 Ford_Prefect

I like the Gates appointment and I'm willing to give a pass on most of the others since he won the election.

The Attorney General, SecState, Tresury, Energy and EPA appointments all seem bad. I would shed no tears if any of them got pilloried to save the country later.


It will be hard for Shrillary to be worse than Condi/Powell, I'm sure she'll try though.

Won't be long before Condi's words are being mistaken for Pat Buchanon's.

IMO it will be easy for Shrillary to be the worse SecState ever.

Why?

Foreigners are going to be shuffling cash into the "Clinton foundation," which is basically a trust fund for Chelsea. How can any action by SecState be taken on face value without considering the influence of those contributions. It is just bizarre.

770 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:09:08am

re: #746 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Tramp Stamp = Tattoo on the lower back

/nice thing to wake up to, NOT!

Good morning all!

"Tattoo on the lower back? Might as well be a bulls-eye."
/Vince Vaughn

771 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:09:15am

re: #722 tfc3rid

Come on Walter... The amount of ball-washing that the media is doing to anything touching Obama is a hugely dangerous thing. If they worship him, they will also cover anything and everything up...

Look, my comments have been on on the fact that the items we are seeing for sale with Obama on it is NOTHING NEW. I am not discussing "ball washing," the MSM, cult of personality or anything of that nature.

Those are all separate issues to my comment, and I was not address those issues.

And as I said above, and as someone pointed out, in Catholic book stores and gift shops you can get pictures of Jesus and JFK together.

Teddy Roosevelt was plaster all over the papers, items, books, magazines, like he was some globe trotting super hero.

It's not new.

772 kcladderman  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:09:16am

Fuck Time Magizine

President George W. Bush said farewell to the nation, but the nation wasn't paying attention. TV barely cut to him in time for his first words Thursday evening and couldn't wait to cut away when he finished 13 minutes later. Something unexpected and awesome had happened to shoulder him out of the picture: a jet gliding to a stop in the middle of the Hudson River, with everyone emerging safe. The departure of President Bush, by contrast, had become part of the world's mental wallpaper some time ago

773 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:09:18am

re: #727 legalpad

re: #720 loppyd


What is a "peace scarf"? And - has anyone heard of the term "Tramp Stamp"?

A "peace scarf" was the euphemism adopted by an online retailer for the patter/color/type of keffiyah seen as the "badge" of the Intifadah.

Tramp stamp. A (usually horizontal) tattoo found on the lower back of many young women. Sometimes it contains her name. The theory is that this is an assist for her anonymous sex partners so that they can call the right moniker out in the throes of climax. I see them by the dozens every day (almost, it's been chilly).

774 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:09:49am

re: #760 loppyd

Isn't that some Arab-type scarf? They represent peace?

775 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:09:51am

re: #758 legalpad

Really lower back. It's seems that many young women get them.

And Peacekeeper.

776 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:09:55am

re: #758 legalpad

re: #746 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)


Really lower back. It's seems that many young women get them.

Really, really lower back... I know plenty of contemporaries who have them...

777 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:10:28am

re: #735 UFO TOFU

re: #717 redstateredneck

Nothing but the best Aussie chardy for me, and I'd share some with you except drinking in the morning is not a good look...

778 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:10:36am

re: #764 Kosh's Shadow

His consulting business is gonna have an upturn this year.

779 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:10:43am

re: #771 Walter L. Newton

Look, my comments have been on on the fact that the items we are seeing for sale with Obama on it is NOTHING NEW. I am not discussing "ball washing," the MSM, cult of personality or anything of that nature.

Those are all separate issues to my comment, and I was not address those issues.

And as I said above, and as someone pointed out, in Catholic book stores and gift shops you can get pictures of Jesus and JFK together.

Teddy Roosevelt was plaster all over the papers, items, books, magazines, like he was some globe trotting super hero.

It's not new.

That doesn't mean the messenger shouldn't be shot.
Were you offered a blindfold?
:)

780 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:11:37am

re: #776 tfc3rid

Really, really lower back... I know plenty of contemporaries who have them...

'Why don't they just get a bulls tattoed there"
-The Wedding Crashers

781 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:11:41am

re: #772 kcladderman

Fuck Time Magizine

President George W. Bush said farewell to the nation, but the nation wasn't paying attention. TV barely cut to him in time for his first words Thursday evening and couldn't wait to cut away when he finished 13 minutes later. Something unexpected and awesome had happened to shoulder him out of the picture: a jet gliding to a stop in the middle of the Hudson River, with everyone emerging safe. The departure of President Bush, by contrast, had become part of the world's mental wallpaper some time ago

13th time in a year they had that tool Obama on the cover. Batting .250 with TIME.

782 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:11:59am

re: #780 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

'Why don't they just get a bulls-eye tattoed there"
-The Wedding Crashers

crap

783 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:12:26am

re: #677 Dustyvet
Uh, Dusty? I got a notice "embedding disabled by request" when I tried to play that!

784 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:12:48am

re: #742 redstateredneck

The Franklin Mint is fair and balanced. They have a coin for every president.
;-)

And there are currently coins in circulation with the visage of presidents. Just think the OB fervor is OVER the TOP.

785 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:12:59am

re: #765 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

re: #758 legalpad


and they look like crap. IMHO.

Typically worn with hip-hugger jeans that the girl really shouldn't be wearing, if you know what I mean.

And a thong - can't leave off the thong!

786 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:13:13am

re: #781 Wyatt Earp

re: #772 kcladderman


Fuck Time Magizine

President George W. Bush said farewell to the nation, but the nation wasn't paying attention. TV barely cut to him in time for his first words Thursday evening and couldn't wait to cut away when he finished 13 minutes later. Something unexpected and awesome had happened to shoulder him out of the picture: a jet gliding to a stop in the middle of the Hudson River, with everyone emerging safe. The departure of President Bush, by contrast, had become part of the world's mental wallpaper some time ago


13th time in a year they had that tool Obama on the cover. Batting .250 with TIME.

Well, consider he'll be on the cover the week after the Inauguration and the week after the State of the Union Address... My guess is that he will be on the cover about 15 times in 2009.

787 vxbush  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:13:36am

A quick stop by to say "Hi" and "darn it, I have to work."

788 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:13:39am

re: #678 loppyd
Huh. Didn't know that - the Democratic Party - the party with Heart! Black heart, no doubt (and NO that's not a racial reference!).

789 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:13:43am

re: #768 loppyd

see my 760

She looks like she could get away with it. Many of the ones I've seen trying that look are carrying too much weight around the middle and it just doesn't look good... the hip-huggers, not the tramp stamp.

790 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:13:44am

re: #518 aussiemagpie

Hi {Lopps} Good to see you darls!

Weather here in my part of Sydney - Thursday 41C (over 110F), Friday much cooler although I was in my freezer(workplace) on Thursday and missed most of the heat, and today should be warm

I love summer!

Sounds lovely!

791 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:14:15am

re: #761 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

re: #748 opnion


There is no emotion there... no real caring... like Rush says, he's not cool, he's cold.


The guy writes a personal letter to his daughters & then gives it to the Media for publication. That is very cold & calculating.

792 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:14:28am

re: #774 legalpad

re: #760 loppyd

Isn't that some Arab-type scarf? They represent peace?

According to UrbanOutfitters.

793 kcladderman  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:14:38am

re: #789 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

She looks like she could get away with it. Many of the ones I've seen trying that look are carrying too much weight around the middle and it just doesn't look good... the hip-huggers, not the tramp stamp.

Muffin Tops

794 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:14:55am

I don't know who (if anyone) claimed that this (selling memorabilia) was a new phenomenon. It certainly isn't.
What is new is the absolute saturation of the images and the huge assist from the media. Hell, Ronald Reagan won 49 of 50 states (as well as a little thing called The Cold War) and I don't remember any cookies with his face on them.
Hopefully the mania that has elevated Obama to the Presidency will subside with time, but given enough positive publicity it could mushroom even further.

795 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:15:15am

re: #793 kcladderman

Muffin Tops

What is a Muffin Top?

796 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:15:24am

re: #777 aussiemagpie

re: #735 UFO TOFU


re: #717 redstateredneck


Nothing but the best Aussie chardy for me, and I'd share some with you except drinking in the morning is not a good look...

I'd be under my desk by noon. Not a good way to keep a job!

797 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:15:37am

re: #786 tfc3rid

re: #781 Wyatt Earp


re: #772 kcladderman


Fuck Time Magizine

President George W. Bush said farewell to the nation, but the nation wasn't paying attention. TV barely cut to him in time for his first words Thursday evening and couldn't wait to cut away when he finished 13 minutes later. Something unexpected and awesome had happened to shoulder him out of the picture: a jet gliding to a stop in the middle of the Hudson River, with everyone emerging safe. The departure of President Bush, by contrast, had become part of the world's mental wallpaper some time ago


13th time in a year they had that tool Obama on the cover. Batting .250 with TIME.

Well, consider he'll be on the cover the week after the Inauguration and the week after the State of the Union Address... My guess is that he will be on the cover about 15 times in 2009.

Because, you know, there is never any real news going on.

798 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:15:48am

re: #785 redstateredneck

And a thong - can't leave off the thong!

Well, if you want to go all the way, start adding piercings... bellybutton first.

799 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:15:57am

re: #789 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

She looks like she could get away with it. Many of the ones I've seen trying that look are carrying too much weight around the middle and it just doesn't look good... the hip-huggers, not the tramp stamp.

Also known as the muffin top look.

800 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:15:59am

re: #779 jwb7605

That doesn't mean the messenger shouldn't be shot.
Were you offered a blindfold?
:)

You got it. These items are a problem for some people because they are about Obama. If it was a Reagan coin or a Bush plate, we wouldn't hear anything here.

Some folks get selective memories when it comes to their favorite gripes. It works that way for all sides, doesn't it.

That's why we repeat history and our mistakes so much. Because our ego gets in the way of reality.

The reality is, this country has had political personality cults before, read any good history book about Kennedy or Teddy Roosevelt.

It's just convenient to ignore that history if it doesn't support your issue that there's something wrong with commemorative Obama items.

801 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:16:05am

re: #764 Kosh's Shadow

The pilot is a former fighter pilot and also is a consultant on airline safety, in particular, crew management. Those people were VERY lucky to have such a pilot.

Actually his biggest plus, besides all you mentioned, is that he was some kind of certified Glider pilot.

802 Render  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:16:15am

re: #765 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Danica Patrick has a tramp stamp that is the American flag combined with a checkered flag.

[Link: www.taynik.com...]

Image: 08_danica+patrick_behind_101203142602.jpg

Looks ok to me.

JUST
SAYIN,
R

803 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:16:31am

re: #793 kcladderman

Muffin Tops

You got it!

804 rightside  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:16:34am
805 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:16:45am

re: #784 midwestgak

re: #742 redstateredneck


The Franklin Mint is fair and balanced. They have a coin for every president.
;-)


And there are currently coins in circulation with the visage of presidents. Just think the OB fervor is OVER the TOP.

It's the first black president thing, IMHO.

806 spirochete  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:16:48am

Miracle on the Potomac

On January 13th, 2009, a US Airways jet, piloted by an ex-military aviator, flew through a flock of geese, lost both engines and made an emergency landing on the Hudson River, saving the lives of all 155 passengers and crew. We haven’t yet seen actual footage of the landing itself, but all of America watched the rescue efforts. New Yorkers jumped in the fray, pulling each other to safety at unknown risks to their own lives, providing immediate first aid and appropriately directing first responders. It is difficult not to take a step back and see this as a metaphor for the Bush presidency.
As EB White wrote after the 9/11 attacks “a single flight of planes no larger than a wedge of geese can quickly end this island fantasy”. President Bush stood on the ruins of the WTC and promised the folks who knocked down these buildings will hear from us. And they did.
President Bush demanded, and the world agreed, that Saddam must come clean on WMDs or he will lose his country. That resolution wasn’t heeded and he did exactly what he said he would do.
In exercising these commitments, over 1.6 million members of our military served in some capacity over the years supporting the war effort. This translates to billions of man hours organizing people, improving manufacturing and gaining language skills in addition to simply running and updating the military itself.
There have been many challenges during this time. Considering how we treat the enemy combatants from their initial capture on the battlefield, through their questioning, housing, punishment and release, there are opportunities for us to reflect on what we want ultimately from our democracy and what we are willing to do to reach those goals. There is room for robust debate and legitimate dissent. There are further domestic issues that crave creative solutions.
But there is not much room for doubt: the Bush presidency has kept us safe. Our country is safer, the world is safer and our future as the liberty loving, freedom promoting country that we are is safer.
How anyone can see this as anything beyond a safe landing is beyond me.

807 Bobblehead  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:16:50am

re: #795 jwb7605

What is a Muffin Top?

[Link: marvinlindsay.typepad.com...]

808 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:16:58am

re: #789 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

re: #768 loppyd


She looks like she could get away with it. Many of the ones I've seen trying that look are carrying too much weight around the middle and it just doesn't look good... the hip-huggers, not the tramp stamp.

I have a Dunlop too (belly done lopped over mah belt), but I buy pants that don't force others to see it. ;)

Now the young lady in the picture...she does NOT seem to have that problem. But I see girls and young women all the time in outfits in PUBLIC that I would not expect to see (being the husband of a woman who usually guards her appearance) in PRIVATE. I.e., "let it all hang out" is a figure of speech, girls and guys, not a command.

809 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:17:02am

re: #774 legalpad

Isn't that some Arab-type scarf? They represent peace?

That's the irony. Kind of like a Che t-shirt.

810 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:17:02am

re: #804 rightside

BHO named gun salesman of the year.

Fan-tastic! LOL

811 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:17:34am

re: #786 tfc3rid

re: #781 Wyatt Earp


re: #772 kcladderman


Fuck Time Magizine

President George W. Bush said farewell to the nation, but the nation wasn't paying attention. TV barely cut to him in time for his first words Thursday evening and couldn't wait to cut away when he finished 13 minutes later. Something unexpected and awesome had happened to shoulder him out of the picture: a jet gliding to a stop in the middle of the Hudson River, with everyone emerging safe. The departure of President Bush, by contrast, had become part of the world's mental wallpaper some time ago


13th time in a year they had that tool Obama on the cover. Batting .250 with TIME.

Well, consider he'll be on the cover the week after the Inauguration and the week after the State of the Union Address... My guess is that he will be on the cover about 15 times in 2009.

And then be man of the year. Or was he already that?

812 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:18:06am

re: #787 vxbush

A quick stop by to say "Hi" and "darn it, I have to work."

Bummer!

813 Texas Heathen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:18:12am

My wife wants to get a tramp stamp. She's 40. I just nod my head and change the subject whenever she brings it up. I like using "well you could do that...or we could get away to Shreveport for a night of gambling and fun" that always does the trick.

814 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:18:13am

re: #795 jwb7605

re: #793 kcladderman


What is a Muffin Top?

You know how the top of a muffin rolls over the edge of the pan?

Well, that's what the "love handles" and guts do over the edge of your overstressed hip-huggers!

815 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:18:35am

re: #786 tfc3rid

re: #781 Wyatt Earp


re: #772 kcladderman


Fuck Time Magizine

President George W. Bush said farewell to the nation, but the nation wasn't paying attention. TV barely cut to him in time for his first words Thursday evening and couldn't wait to cut away when he finished 13 minutes later. Something unexpected and awesome had happened to shoulder him out of the picture: a jet gliding to a stop in the middle of the Hudson River, with everyone emerging safe. The departure of President Bush, by contrast, had become part of the world's mental wallpaper some time ago


13th time in a year they had that tool Obama on the cover. Batting .250 with TIME.

Well, consider he'll be on the cover the week after the Inauguration and the week after the State of the Union Address... My guess is that he will be on the cover about 15 times in 2009.

Folks voted for Obama because they expect a gilded age. I don't see it happening. In fact, the opposite is just as likely. Once the controversies start, he'll be on the cover more than that.

Think of Brittany Spears. When she was on the assent, she was popular. But when she was on the decline, the coverage was even greater - you could not avoid it. Same thing could happen here.

816 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:18:44am

re: #810 Wyatt Earp

re: #804 rightside


BHO named gun salesman of the year.


Fan-tastic! LOL

He's got a long row to hoe to beat Bush the Elder.

817 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:18:46am

re: #799 loppyd

Also known as the muffin top look.

Whale tail...refers to the thong

818 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:18:59am

re: #806 spirochete

Miracle on the Potomac

On January 13th, 2009, a US Airways jet, piloted by an ex-military aviator, flew through a flock of geese, lost both engines and made an emergency landing on the Hudson River, saving the lives of all 155 passengers and crew. We haven’t yet seen actual footage of the landing itself, but all of America watched the rescue efforts. New Yorkers jumped in the fray, pulling each other to safety at unknown risks to their own lives, providing immediate first aid and appropriately directing first responders. It is difficult not to take a step back and see this as a metaphor for the Bush presidency.
As EB White wrote after the 9/11 attacks “a single flight of planes no larger than a wedge of geese can quickly end this island fantasy”. President Bush stood on the ruins of the WTC and promised the folks who knocked down these buildings will hear from us. And they did.
President Bush demanded, and the world agreed, that Saddam must come clean on WMDs or he will lose his country. That resolution wasn’t heeded and he did exactly what he said he would do.
In exercising these commitments, over 1.6 million members of our military served in some capacity over the years supporting the war effort. This translates to billions of man hours organizing people, improving manufacturing and gaining language skills in addition to simply running and updating the military itself.
There have been many challenges during this time. Considering how we treat the enemy combatants from their initial capture on the battlefield, through their questioning, housing, punishment and release, there are opportunities for us to reflect on what we want ultimately from our democracy and what we are willing to do to reach those goals. There is room for robust debate and legitimate dissent. There are further domestic issues that crave creative solutions.
But there is not much room for doubt: the Bush presidency has kept us safe. Our country is safer, the world is safer and our future as the liberty loving, freedom promoting country that we are is safer.
How anyone can see this as anything beyond a safe landing is beyond me.

A caller to Bill Bennett's Morning in America today noted that Bush's presidency began with people dying in airplanes, then ending with people being saved in an airplane.

819 Render  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:19:00am

re: #744 lawhawk

um Hawk...

I agree with you that Operation Cast Lead should still be ongoing but...

ITS
OVER,
R

820 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:19:08am

Rally: Truce without Shalit will seal his fate
Demonstrators say if Israel fails to take advantage of Gaza operation to release kidnapped soldier, country will experience 'moral meltdown'

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I pray and hope for Shalit. But I am afraid his fate has already been sealed.

821 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:19:19am

re: #798 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

re: #785 redstateredneck


Well, if you want to go all the way, start adding piercings... bellybutton first.

Right...Generation Ho.

822 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:19:36am

re: #805 redstateredneck


It's the first black president thing, IMHO.

You could be right. Couldn't find a copy of The Chicago Tribune after the election because he was on the front page.

823 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:19:43am

re: #814 OldLineTexan

re: #795 jwb7605


re: #793 kcladderman


What is a Muffin Top?


You know how the top of a muffin rolls over the edge of the pan?

Well, that's what the "love handles" and guts do over the edge of your overstressed hip-huggers!

Top of the muffin TO YOU!

824 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:19:47am

re: #807 Bobblehead

[Link: marvinlindsay.typepad.com...]

I feel like shooting the messenger.

825 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:20:08am

re: #817 Stonemason

Whale tail...refers to the thong

I had to explain that one to my mom the other day! Too funny.

They make undies so you don't have that problem.

826 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:20:56am

re: #823 Wyatt Earp

re: #814 OldLineTexan


re: #795 jwb7605


re: #793 kcladderman


What is a Muffin Top?


You know how the top of a muffin rolls over the edge of the pan?
Well, that's what the "love handles" and guts do over the edge of your overstressed hip-huggers!

Top of the muffin TO YOU!

The bottom is the best part, anyway.

/

827 J.S.  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:21:00am

re: #784 midwestgak

I think the sellers of the memorabilia are trying (desperately?) to cash in on the "dreamy hope/change" meme. There's one commercial (is it for a commemorative plate?) which shows these brain-dead Zombie-like starry-eyed people (a family sitting on the couch), and one of them exclaims: "i thought this day would never come!" (like, "Thank g-d, the Messiah has come!"), and it goes on and on...(the narrator mesmerized by "Obama's smile and kind eyes", etc.) it's unintentionally hilarious...

828 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:21:06am

re: #811 redstateredneck

Obama is going to shatter the Time Man of the Year win total... He's got 1 so far...

829 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:21:22am
830 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:21:49am

re: #823 Wyatt Earp

Top of the muffin TO YOU!

Great episode!

831 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:21:54am
832 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:21:57am

re: #825 loppyd

re: #817 Stonemason


I had to explain that one to my mom the other day! Too funny.

They make undies so you don't have that problem.

You can buy decorated thongs because the girls that wear 'em that way don't see it as a problem.

833 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:22:02am

re: #805 redstateredneck

Bingo!

834 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:22:02am

re: #796 redstateredneck

re: #777 aussiemagpie


re: #735 UFO TOFU


re: #717 redstateredneck


Nothing but the best Aussie chardy for me, and I'd share some with you except drinking in the morning is not a good look...

I'd be under my desk by noon. Not a good way to keep a job!

LOL! We sometimes have lunch at the pub in our shopping centre where my workplace is - I have one chardy and I'm ready for a nanna nap - the beds in the treatment room are tempting!

835 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:22:04am

re: #795 jwb7605

muffin top

836 Bobblehead  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:22:08am

re: #824 jwb7605

I feel like shooting the messenger.

I've seen worse. Much worse.

837 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:22:15am

re: #597 loppyd

Bwa.
Ha.
Ha!

838 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:22:16am

re: #808 OldLineTexan


I have a Dunlop too (belly done lopped over mah belt), but I buy pants that don't force others to see it. ;)

Now the young lady in the picture...she does NOT seem to have that problem. But I see girls and young women all the time in outfits in PUBLIC that I would not expect to see (being the husband of a woman who usually guards her appearance) in PRIVATE. I.e., "let it all hang out" is a figure of speech, girls and guys, not a command.


Actually, it's hard to find women's jeans that aren't so damned low that everything hangs out, unless you get maw-maw jeans with an elastic waist.

839 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:22:27am

re: #815 DeafDog

Based on the wonderful press Obama will get, there is no way he will ever be on the decline. there is no way that anyone would ever admit he's a huge risk and mistake for this country...

840 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:22:38am
841 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:23:02am

re: #832 OldLineTexan

You can buy decorated thongs because the girls that wear 'em that way don't see it as a problem.

{Heathen}!

I just don't get it.

842 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:23:07am

re: #827 J.S.

All these 0bama tchotchkes are his plan to improve the economy. Get people to buy the stuff and put people to work making them.
/ do I have to?

843 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:23:41am

re: #694 tfc3rid
Good morning - I predict we'll have One Terrorist attack on the US that might have been prevented using current interrogation techniques, and it'll be back to our current forms of interrogation. It's one thing to boo from the sidelines; it's altogether different when you're the head coach of the team that just got bombed and YOU could have prevented it.

844 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:23:53am

re: #838 redstateredneck

re: #808 OldLineTexan


Actually, it's hard to find women's jeans that aren't so damned low that everything hangs out, unless you get maw-maw jeans with an elastic waist.

I will sympathize with that. I have tried to buy my girls clothes that don't qualify as ho gear. Not as easy as I thought.

845 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:24:04am

re: #822 midwestgak

re: #805 redstateredneck


It's the first black president thing, IMHO.

You could be right. Couldn't find a copy of The Chicago Tribune after the election because he was on the front page.

Here is NY, the Daily News is taking orders for the Inauguration collector's edition already...

846 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:24:14am

re: #813 Texas Heathen

Oh, hell, I got a tattoo when I turned 40, but it's not a tramp stamp. I'd always wanted one so I did it for me!

847 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:24:22am

re: #827 J.S.

re: #784 midwestgak

I think the sellers of the memorabilia are trying (desperately?) to cash in on the "dreamy hope/change" meme. There's one commercial (is it for a commemorative plate?) which shows these brain-dead Zombie-like starry-eyed people (a family sitting on the couch), and one of them exclaims: "i thought this day would never come!" (like, "Thank g-d, the Messiah has come!"), and it goes on and on...(the narrator mesmerized by "Obama's smile and kind eyes", etc.) it's unintentionally hilarious...


Hey J.S. - There's a commercial with Montel Williams selling plates and coins. He and his conarrator are all agog.

848 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:24:25am

re: #841 loppyd

re: #832 OldLineTexan


{Heathen}!

I just don't get it.

Heathen?

I guess we all look alike!

/

849 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:24:30am

re: #817 Stonemason

Whale tail...refers to the thong

as in... this effect

850 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:24:49am

re: #795 jwb7605

It's the blob of stomach fat that hangs over women's pants when they wear short waisted pants.

851 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:25:16am

I am not into this Obama as Messiah thing, but if at the Inauguration, he multiplies the loaves & the fish, I will have to reconsider.

852 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:25:31am

re: #836 Bobblehead

I've seen worse. Much worse.

Oh, yeah. Me too.
I didn't know what the disaster was called, though.

revenge for the image Visualize Helen Thomas.

853 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:25:40am

re: #831 Iron Fist

His followers already do... They are hardcore and will never be objective about anything he does. Problem is, 99% of the media are his followers...

Obama will be the teflon President.

854 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:25:56am

re: #833 DeafDog

re: #805 redstateredneck

Bingo!

Hey {red}, you got another Bingo?/ :)

855 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:26:10am

re: #839 tfc3rid

Yup. Even during the Clinton impeachment proceedings, when every sentient being knew that Bubba was lying under oath and obstructing justice, his favorable coverage barely faltered. And the Clinton cult was no where near as fervent as the Obama cult. I can't think of anything that Obama could do that would get the press to turn on him, and as goes the press, so go the Lib lemmings.

856 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:26:16am

re: #831 Iron Fist

I've said it before, but it bears repeating. He reminds me of Mussolini. Not just one little thing or two, but everything from the vauge promises of "Change!" to the arrogant tilt of his head he just screams "Mussolini". And if he does go that route, there are a lot of voters out there who will eat it up like candy.

Wait until we get the rallies with chants of "0-bama" or "The One! The One!"
Attendance will be mandatory, and make sure you chant loud enough, or you will be summoned to your local community organizer. And you don't want that to happen, do you?

857 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:26:44am

re: #841 loppyd

re: #832 OldLineTexan


{Heathen}!

I just don't get it.

That's because you're not a skanky wannabe ho!

858 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:27:15am

re: #813 Texas Heathen

My wife wants to get a tramp stamp. She's 40. I just nod my head and change the subject whenever she brings it up. I like using "well you could do that...or we could get away to Shreveport for a night of gambling and fun" that always does the trick.

Hi {Texas heathen}

Just remind her about tattoos and old age - not a pretty sight on old wrinkly skin :-)

But that's just what I think - there would be plenty of others who wouldn't care so much about that :-)

859 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:27:16am

re: #848 OldLineTexan

Heathen?

I guess we all look alike!

/

Sorry! I saw Texas, not Texan.

I'm not a good multi-takser!

860 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:27:41am

re: #857 redstateredneck

re: #841 loppyd


re: #832 OldLineTexan


{Heathen}!

I just don't get it.


That's because you're not a skanky wannabe ho!

I take it the Velvet Jones School of Technology just wasn't for you?

861 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:28:07am
862 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:28:08am

re: #854 midwestgak

re: #833 DeafDog


re: #805 redstateredneck

Bingo!


Hey {red}, you got another Bingo?/ :)

Do I get 50 points?
:D

863 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:28:08am

re: #839 tfc3rid

re: #815 DeafDog

Based on the wonderful press Obama will get, there is no way he will ever be on the decline. there is no way that anyone would ever admit he's a huge risk and mistake for this country...

During a campaign, that is definitly true. And during the early part of his presidency, Bush will remain the fallguy.

Eventually, however, there will be a record and folks will start to judge more objectively.

{maybe I'm dreaming, but it's a happy dream so please don't wake me up}

864 Eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:28:30am

re: #727 legalpad

What is a "peace scarf"? And - has anyone heard of the term "Tramp Stamp"?

Peace Scarf

Tramp Stamp

865 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:28:37am
866 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:28:49am

re: #843 realwest

Good morning - I predict we'll have One Terrorist attack on the US that might have been prevented using current interrogation techniques, and it'll be back to our current forms of interrogation. It's one thing to boo from the sidelines; it's altogether different when you're the head coach of the team that just got bombed and YOU could have prevented it.

Might not take that much... the new administration is suddenly OK with a lot of things now that _their_ guy will be in the hot seat.

867 Texas Heathen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:29:47am

re: #841 loppyd

{Heathen}!

I just don't get it.

{loppyd}{aussie}
I don't either. Hey it is called underwear because its supposed to be under your clothes where it is not seen. I guess the girls want their whale tail showing to compete with the boys who have their boxers showing.

868 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:29:58am

re: #729 Maximu§
I hope it is a repeat post - it deserves repeating! Thanks for that!

869 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:30:05am

re: #861 ploome hineni

Oy to the Vey.

870 yochanan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:30:17am

re: #742 redstateredneck

I WANT TO SEE THE JAMES EARL CARTER U.S. $ COIN

871 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:30:38am

re: #866 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Might not take that much... the new administration is suddenly OK with a lot of things now that _their_ guy will be in the hot seat.

I think that the first intelligence briefing Barry received made him reach for a Kool with a shaky hand.

872 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:30:41am

re: #864 Eschew_obfuscation

Peace Scarf

Tramp Stamp

I'll take two on the tramps, to go.

873 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:30:43am

re: #866 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Might not take that much... the new administration is suddenly OK with a lot of things now that _their_ guy will be in the hot seat.

It will take roughly a year before "it's Bush's fault" wears off.

874 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:30:46am

Another scary point regarding Holder yesterday, aside from saying waterboarding is torture is that he would not say that he would not prosecute those in the military or FBI or CIA who waterboarded GitoMo terrorists...

That is a very dangerous precedent...

875 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:30:49am

re: #869 WriterMom

re: #861 ploome hineni

Oy to the Vey.

We need more Jewish rappers.

876 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:31:25am

re: #870 yochanan

I WANT TO SEE THE JAMES EARL CARTER U.S. $ COIN

We don't put living people on our coins so you... never mind!

877 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:31:39am

re: #872 Walter L. Newton

I'll take two on the tramps, to go.

Have you gotten all your inoculations up to date?

878 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:31:44am

re: #872 Walter L. Newton

re: #864 Eschew_obfuscation


Peace Scarf

Tramp Stamp

Alan says you can have four if you like.
I'll take two on the tramps, to go.

879 Texas Heathen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:31:50am

re: #849 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

as in... this effect

I see london. I see France. Ya'all know the rest. heh

880 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:31:51am
882 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:31:53am

re: #871 loppyd

I agree. I think when he started receiving all of the information, I hope he realized this isn't a political game... Nor are we being 'threatened' by the Boogeyman.

883 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:32:13am

re: #870 yochanan

re: #742 redstateredneck

I WANT TO SEE THE JAMES EARL CARTER U.S. $ COIN

Wouldja settle for a medal?

884 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:32:18am

re: #876 Walter L. Newton

re: #870 yochanan


We don't put living people on our coins so you... never mind!

That was so deliciously evil of him.

885 spirochete  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:32:21am

re: #874 tfc3rid

Another scary point regarding Holder yesterday, aside from saying waterboarding is torture is that he would not say that he would not prosecute those in the military or FBI or CIA who waterboarded GitoMo terrorists...

That is a very dangerous precedent...

I thought we banned waterboarding in '06. I do agree about the dangerous precedent.

886 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:32:25am

re: #849 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Awww...didja have too?

887 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:32:32am

re: #744 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk - what an excellent comment!
But again it just goes to show that we worship Life, they worship Death.

888 Cathypop  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:33:00am

re: #853 tfc3rid

re: #831 Iron Fist

His followers already do... They are hardcore and will never be objective about anything he does. Problem is, 99% of the media are his followers...

Obama will be the teflon President.


So sad and so true.

889 akak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:33:13am

What does AAA road service mean when they say cars are frozen to the ground?

I've seen construction equipment in frozen wet mud, but a car frozen to the ground?

890 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:33:48am

re: #829 ploome hineni

They could do that and hamass would still claim victory.

891 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:34:09am

re: #752 ThinkRight
OK, what is a "Tramp Stamp"?!

892 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:34:16am
893 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:34:23am

re: #889 akak

What does AAA road service mean when they say cars are frozen to the ground?

I've seen construction equipment in frozen wet mud, but a car frozen to the ground?

Maybe they parked in slush and it re-froze...

894 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:34:27am

re: #886 Stonemason

Awww...didja have too?

In this case... yes.

895 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:34:29am

re: #881 Alouette

Dozens of newborns named for Mumbai couple.

Much nicer than naming your child "Adolph Hitler" [last_name].
This was strange (to me), though:

"With God's help, when the Messiah comes soon we will see our children again," she concluded.


I gather they were 'fundamentalist' types.

896 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:34:35am

re: #891 realwest

re: #752 ThinkRight
OK, what is a "Tramp Stamp"?!

real, you gotta get out more.

897 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:34:50am

re: #891 realwest

OK, what is a "Tramp Stamp"?!

A lower back tattoo on a woman, usually exposed by low cut jeans or short blouse.

898 legalpad  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:34:52am

re: #840 WriterMom

the world is strangely blinkered in choosing the tragedies to which it responds.

Yes - They don't actually care about any of them. What they care about is picking one they can hit those whom they hate over the head with.

899 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:35:09am

re: #883 redstateredneck

Wouldja settle for a medal?

I think we should refer to Jimmuh as "Earl".

900 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:35:11am

re: #870 yochanan

re: #742 redstateredneck

I WANT TO SEE THE JAMES EARL CARTER U.S. $ COIN


When he takes a dirt nap and they create a Jimmy coin, what value would it have?/

901 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:35:29am

re: #881 Alouette

Awesome. Baruch Hashem-how moving.

902 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:35:37am
903 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:35:53am

re: #895 jwb7605

re: #881 Alouette


Dozens of newborns named for Mumbai couple.


Much nicer than naming your child "Adolph Hitler" [last_name].
This was strange (to me), though:


I gather they were 'fundamentalist' types.

The Messiah is due on Tuesday, January 20th.

Look busy.

904 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:35:55am

re: #900 midwestgak

When he takes a dirt nap and they create a Jimmy coin, what value would it have?/

Well, evidently one dollar. Was that hard?
/

905 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:36:00am

re: #760 loppyd
Ah, y'all can forget my #891 - gotta catch up here, fast!

906 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:36:10am

re: #900 midwestgak

Value: zero.

907 tfc3rid  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:36:23am

re: #900 midwestgak

re: #870 yochanan


re: #742 redstateredneck

I WANT TO SEE THE JAMES EARL CARTER U.S. $ COIN


When he takes a dirt nap and they create a Jimmy coin, what value would it have?/

It would be worth peanuts...

908 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:36:33am

Mystery: The Grifters

Imagine a small town; law-abiding, hardworking. One day a new family moves into the neighborhood. From another neighbor, you hear the last name, and something triggers a memory. The name belongs to a rather famous colony of Grifters, who had been run out of the neighborhing town years ago. Some of them had gone to jail, but you can't remember the specifics. The grifters, about 10 of them, are reported to have live in a trailer park outside town on county property, but that was years ago, and they subsequently moved away.

But this family looks upscale, they drive a newer car. You notice two children. Soon your son comes in just raving about this great new family. Next your next-door neighbor comes in saying how warm and kind the family seems. According to her she learned that the new guy is the son of one of the grifters, - "but he's nothing like them." How does she know? "They seem really nice," she says.

Next thing you know your front doorbell rings and the New neighbors are on your doorstep to introduce themselves. You feel a little embarrassed because you didn't get over to their house first - they must just be anxious to make new friends, you figure. They invite you to dinner for the following weekend. You feel obliged to accept, what could be the harm?

Over the next week, you get various reports from your children about how generous the family is giving your son two very expensive video games. Your spouse comments that he ran into the new neighbor at the hardware store and that the new neighbor had invited him for golf. Later in the day several other neighbors approach you in the grocery store and ask you to participate in a block party for the new neighbors. Seems the the new people had been working the charm offensive on the whole block.

The day before the party the neighbor's wive came over with a pie she had baked. This family was sure trying hard to fit in you think, maybe a little too hard. You look out your window as she leaves and notice a scruffy man working in the yard, his arms covered in tattoos. You learn later from the kids that he is "the uncle." Ahhh...possibly one of the grifters, maybe reformed?

The next night, at the dinner, you learn that the new neighbor is in roofing and he prides himself on beating any competitor price by 50%, a rather shocking claim. He says he uses his own team of people. Your close friend next door has already contracted him to put on her new roof, he tells you. Actually, you know that her roof is in pretty bad shape, and she hadn't been able to afford to have it replaced, so this could be a really good deal for her...if it is legitimate work.

cont...

909 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:36:33am

Good Morning you grand Lizards!
How is everyone this fine frozen day?

910 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:36:35am

re: #851 opnion

I am not into this Obama as Messiah thing, but if at the Inauguration, he multiplies the loaves & the fish, I will have to reconsider.

Oh dear! Please don't blaspheme so early in the morning. I'm not even fully caffeinated yet!

911 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:36:46am

re: #882 tfc3rid

I agree. I think when he started receiving all of the information, I hope he realized this isn't a political game... Nor are we being 'threatened' by the Boogeyman.

I still think he has no idea what he is doing.

912 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:37:05am

re: #900 midwestgak

re: #870 yochanan


re: #742 redstateredneck

I WANT TO SEE THE JAMES EARL CARTER U.S. $ COIN


When he takes a dirt nap and they create a Jimmy coin, what value would it have?/

They should put him on a wooden nickel.

913 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:37:28am

re: #910 vapig

re: #851 opnion


Oh dear! Please don't blaspheme so early in the morning. I'm not even fully caffeinated yet!

Please, that's not really blasphemy.

914 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:37:29am

re: #900 midwestgak

When he takes a dirt nap and they create a Jimmy coin, what value would it have?/

$56, worth about a penny in 2008 money.

Wait till you catch the "Obama Billion Dollar Bill"... they'll be all the rage at the bakery where one will get you a loaf of bread, comrade.

915 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:37:42am

re: #903 OldLineTexan

The Messiah is due on Tuesday, January 20th.

Look busy.

Got the memo.
Hey, what's a Tramp Stamp?
/

916 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:37:58am

re: #909 HoosierHoops

Good Morning you grand Lizards!
How is everyone this fine frozen day?

{Hooosier Daddy!}

BRRR.

917 VegasRick  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:38:00am

re: #875 OldLineTexan

re: #869 WriterMom


re: #861 ploome hineni

Oy to the Vey.


We need more Jewish rappers.

Here ya go!
[Link: www.jibjab.com...]

918 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:38:20am

re: #909 HoosierHoops

Good Morning you grand Lizards!
How is everyone this fine frozen day?


Morning {Hossier}. Good to see you.

919 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:38:20am

re: #915 jwb7605

re: #903 OldLineTexan


Got the memo.
Hey, what's a Tramp Stamp?
/

I guess it's postage for a woman with loose morals.

920 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:38:25am

con't from 908

Your suspicions aroused, you ask about his family and where he's from. You learn that he traveled around a lot when he was younger with a rather large extended family. Now he employs his father as a general contractor, his mother does the bookkeeping, and his cousins do the roofing work - a a real family operation. You feel a creeping alarm.

Arriving home you jump on google and find the family history and learn that almost 10 years ago they had been involved in roofing scams in the neighboring town. The father, mother and several others of the gang had been arrested and were forced to make restitution to a number of people whose money they had taken. The father had done jail time. It's shocking but now more things are starting to make sense in this context.

You feel obliged to warn your close friend. You print off the stories and take them to her. You are relieved to learn that she hasn't yet given them any money. But your close friend is not appreciative, in fact she is angry that you are accusing someone who is trying to help her. You try and connect the dots for her highlighting the overbearing friendliness, the gifts, the criminal family - and their continued involvement in the business, and the to-good-to-be true cut rate price for the job.

She kicks you out of the house, saying he looks good and sounds articulate, and that you are the problem - not the neighbor.

Question:What political party is she? What are the odds that this guy is legit and NOT a grifter?

921 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:38:37am

re: #891 realwest

re: #752 ThinkRight
OK, what is a "Tramp Stamp"?!


Been explained by everyone already
They are a joke if you ask me

922 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:39:04am

re: #905 realwest

Ah, y'all can forget my #891 - gotta catch up here, fast!

We're ranging far and fast this morning.

/Morinin' Real! Started the evening at -5, up to a balmy 0 deg now... and you?

923 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:39:41am

re: #916 loppyd

re: #909 HoosierHoops


{Hooosier Daddy!}

BRRR.


{Loppyd} We need some global warming! Stat!

924 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:40:01am

re: #801 Nevergiveup

Actually his biggest plus, besides all you mentioned, is that he was some kind of certified Glider pilot.

Interesting. The Gimli incident up here had a pilot that was also a glider pilot. That's why he knew where to land and how to land a dead stick 767.

/and they told me glider lessons were a waste of time. :)

925 spirochete  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:40:05am

Shumer says Sullenburger should get the Congressional Medal of Honor. This award is given out only for actions taken during military efforts against enemies of the US. I hope this event won't qualify.

926 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:40:16am

re: #918 midwestgak

re: #909 HoosierHoops


Morning {Hossier}. {Hoosier} forgive me?

927 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:40:42am

re: #919 OldLineTexan

I guess it's postage advertisement for a woman with loose morals.

Fixed. No charge.

928 96RoadKing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:40:45am

re: #909 HoosierHoops FFFreezing! Hhhhow are yyyou?

929 Eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:40:50am

re: #911 loppyd

I still think he has no idea what he is doing.

Agreed. I think he'll rely HEAVILY on his advisors to tell him what to do and he'll just be the pretty face trying to sell it to us.

930 Syrah  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:41:20am

re: #915 jwb7605

Got the memo.
Hey, what's a Tramp Stamp?
/

A tattoo across the lower back.

931 Learned Mother of Zion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:41:37am

re: #925 spirochete

Shumer says Sullenburger should get the Congressional Medal of Honor. This award is given out only for actions taken during military efforts against enemies of the US. I hope this event won't qualify.

The attack was carried out by a team of suicide geese from the previously-unknown Canadian terrorist group Al-Birda.

932 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:42:24am

re: #923 HoosierHoops

{Loppyd} We need some global warming! Stat!

Calling AlGore! Calling AlGore!

933 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:42:35am

re: #931 Alouette

The attack was carried out by a team of suicide geese from the previously-unknown Canadian terrorist group Al-Birda.

Led by that known terrorist mastermind... al-Capon.

934 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:42:35am

re: #926 midwestgak

re: #918 midwestgak


re: #909 HoosierHoops


Morning {Hossier}. {Hoosier} forgive me?

Good Morning Gak! {GAK} I'm going home in 15 minutes...Think I'll break out the Baileys and heatup some leftovers and blog from home today..
That's what I call TGIF!

935 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:42:39am

re: #929 Eschew_obfuscation

Agreed. I think he'll rely HEAVILY on his advisors to tell him what to do and he'll just be the pretty face trying to sell it to us.

I hope by "advisors" you don't mean Cabinet. He's got the roles all mixed up, not even considering corruption.

936 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:42:41am

What's a tramp stamp?
/just feeling left out of the crowd.

937 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:42:58am

(Please let Sully be a Republican. That would just be a cherry on the top of saving 155 lives.)

938 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:43:01am

re: #929 Eschew_obfuscation

Agreed. I think he'll rely HEAVILY on his advisors to tell him what to do and he'll just be the pretty face trying to sell it to us.

With cover from the MSM at every turn.

939 Texas Heathen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:43:39am

re: #931 Alouette

The attack was carried out by a team of suicide geese from the previously-unknown Canadian terrorist group Al-Birda.

Which is headquartered in Alberta.

940 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:44:06am

re: #928 96RoadKing

re: #909 HoosierHoops FFFreezing! Hhhhow are yyyou?

Hey You...It is very cold outside.. How are you today?
Is our Rooster still alive?

941 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:44:11am

re: #925 spirochete

Shumer says Sullenburger should get the Congressional Medal of Honor. This award is given out only for actions taken during military efforts against enemies of the US. I hope this event won't qualify.

Agreed.

That said, Sully is going to get more than his 15 minutes of fame.

942 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:44:16am

re: #936 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What's a tramp stamp?
/just feeling left out of the crowd.

Tramp Stamp

943 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:44:50am

re: #934 HoosierHoops


Good Morning Gak! {GAK} I'm going home in 15 minutes...Think I'll break out the Baileys and heatup some leftovers and blog from home today..
That's what I call TGIF!

Good for you. I'm here 'til 3 p.m. Maybe see you later.

TGIF!

944 Eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:45:01am

re: #931 Alouette

The attack was carried out by a team of suicide geese from the previously-unknown Canadian terrorist group Al-Birda.

Apparently, they've not heard of Al-Birda clippers before

945 Syrah  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:45:06am

Is there a working RoosterCam link today?

946 spirochete  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:45:19am

re: #920 DistantThunder

This sounds like it may be a true story. Is it?

947 Buck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:45:36am

re: #885 spirochete

I thought we banned waterboarding in '06. I do agree about the dangerous precedent.

Waterboarding is still done by US military personnel even today.

It is done to Navy Seals as part of their training.

Frankly as a method of interrogation it probably has lost its ability to work. If you know that the interrogator will not let you die. If you know that he is just trying to scare you. Well, it might be a really bad experience, but it only works if you think you will die.

Keeping a person awake for days works better. It breaks down his ability to think, he will say things that he would normally guard against saying...

Playing "Girls just want to have fun" over and over again for days also seems to work well, but no one knows why...

948 jaunte  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:45:54am

The original Tramp Stamp:

949 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:46:01am

re: #866 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT - I'm afraid it WILL take that much because Obama - to the extent he believes in anything - does seem to believe that we shouln't interrogate "harshly".
It will be a true wake up call for him, I just hope it's not too expensive a wake up call for the country.

950 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:46:47am

re: #941 DeafDog

re: #925 spirochete


Agreed.

That said, Sully is going to get more than his 15 minutes of fame.


Will the title of the movie be Miracle on the Hudson?

951 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:47:21am

End Game

Last night I attended an off the record briefing on the war. A friend of mine, just back from Israel, reported on the current situation. I can't go into sources or too much detail but it is clear in Israel they feel they have achieved most of their strategic objectives in the war this far:

-Hamas military might has been crushed and their leadership cadres have been decimated.
-If Israel pulled out tomorrow, no one in Gaza will ever call this a Hamas victory- it is very clear who got their ass kicked.
-Israel seem to feel it can hold in situ is to slowly force Hamas to cease missile fire and turn in their weapons.
-I believe the magnitude of the misery discredits Hamas forever to most Palestinians.
-The decapitation strike on the senior killers of Hamas paramilitary units was a devastating blow. These were very able and committed murdering fanatics; they leave a gaping hole in Hamas leadership.
-Some cease fire will come about. Hamas' losses will not be able to be easily replaced. The southern border will prevent weapons from coming in and the Egyptians are working hand in glove to finish the Israelis. Would you sign up to join Hamas knowing they will toss you against the IDF?

Israel has won. Her leaders, her people and, more importantly, her military commanders think so. As I have said, I had very high esteem for the IDF's CoS Ashkenazi. But I was mistaken about him- I may have underestimated him! He may be one of the most able men to have ever worn an Israeli uniform (I say that as someone who has studied the Israeli military for 34 years). He literally transformed the army since taking over in 2006. He has trained the army hard and fights to win. He may very well have inflicted a military defeat that leads to the ultimate defeat of Hamas with the loss of 10 Jewish lives.

While Iran will do what they did in 2006 to rush "aid" to Gaza and make a big a show of rebuilding, Egypt and Israel will prevent that but we should be mindful that Gaza, despite Israeli efforts to limit damage and death, has been very hard hit. We must be prepared for unpleasant images in the post war. The thousand dead figure is going to rise. Despite their best efforts, some civilians died too.

The backlash against Hamas in Palestinian society will be brutal, they will denounce Israel but Hamas' war crimes against her own people will come out in the postwar. They were not as bad as the Taliban or al Qaeda in the Sunni Triangle in 2006 but their brutality and savagery are a very special legacy, for which they will be hated by their fellow Palestinians. When the stories finally do come out, there will be violence against Hamas .

That brings us to Iran; the nuclear threat is not going away. Like two speeding buses on a one lane mountain road on a collision course, Israel and Iran are, unless something stops Iran's nuclear program, going to war. Iran tried to use Hamas to kill Israel and has badly failed. Iran is willing to fight to the last Palestinian. Hamas leaders in Damascus, under Iranian pressure and with complete indifference to what happens in Gaza are blocking the cease fire from going through. The bigger war against the bigger threat looms large.

Filled with their new ideas, the Obamanauts are chomping at the bit and raring to bring global "change." But they cannot change the likes of Ahmadinejad, only prison or a bullet can do that. Currently, the oddest thing in DC is a State Department, usually Israel's biggest foe, are very quiet about the Gaza war- for a very good reason. Egypt and the Saudis are telling their pals at State: GO! ISRAEL GO! A diplomatic sea change, brought about by the threat of the New Persian Empire, has State's Arabists tolerating Israel.

And one final note, our new Congress has been very supportive of Israel in this war, if you can, please call your Senator or reps and thank them for that support.

Hang on Gilad, it will not be long.

952 Buck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:47:26am

re: #900 midwestgak

When he takes a dirt nap and they create a Jimmy coin, what value would it have?/

About 500 Renminbi.

/Chinese currency

953 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:47:28am
954 96RoadKing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:47:30am

re: #940 HoosierHoops
It was minus 22 last I checked. Took a little work to convince the van to start up. The rooster's currently frozen solid (flash frozen by a cruel breeze!), but I'm hoping it can be revived...

955 yochanan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:47:37am

NOTHING that millions of people buy will be worth anything in the future as the demand will surely not meet the supply now john mccain stuff will be rare as hens teeth.

956 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:47:57am

re: #925 spirochete

Shumer says Sullenburger should get the Congressional Medal of Honor. This award is given out only for actions taken during military efforts against enemies of the US. I hope this event won't qualify.


Shumer should do a little research. There is a civilian equivelent. He just couldn't wait to interject himself.
I mentioned to my wife, that because of thip pilot's valor & quick thinking babies will be born. On the news last night it was reported that one of the passengers was in labor. Faster than I thought.

957 spirochete  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:48:24am

re: #947 Buck

I guess the days of throwing people out of airplanes one at a time are over then.

958 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:48:27am

re: #879 Texas Heathen
ARGGHHH - Eye bleach, eye bleach STAT!

959 Syrah  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:49:16am
960 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:49:31am

re: #950 midwestgak

re: #941 DeafDog


re: #925 spirochete


Agreed.

That said, Sully is going to get more than his 15 minutes of fame.


Will the title of the movie be Miracle on the Hudson?

Goosed in New York

961 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:49:41am

re: #920 DistantThunder

Too easy (D). And when her neighbor is left with a gapping hole in her roof and the good neighbors promise to fix it, if only she gives them more money and the keys to her house for easier access, she will blame the neighbor for warning her because, after all, the good neighbors have good intentions while she is a fear-mongering bigot!

962 loppyd  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:49:58am

My cold is getting worse and I have to get some things done so I can head home and get into my jammies and sleep.

Later,Taters.

963 albusteve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:50:01am

re: #822 midwestgak

It's the first black president thing, IMHO.

You could be right. Couldn't find a copy of The Chicago Tribune after the election because he was on the front page.

he's not black

964 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:50:04am

re: #920 DistantThunder

Strange, your story seems to describe democrats (woman) the democratic party (grifters) to a tee.

965 Learned Mother of Zion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:50:53am

re: #956 opnion

Shumer should do a little research. There is a civilian equivelent. He just couldn't wait to interject himself.
I mentioned to my wife, that because of thip pilot's valor & quick thinking babies will be born. On the news last night it was reported that one of the passengers was in labor. Faster than I thought.

The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the civilian equivalent of the MOH.

966 96RoadKing  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:50:54am

'Bye Lizards. I'm on my way to Grand Marais, MN. Looking forward to some tropical weather!

967 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:51:15am

re: #952 Buck

re: #900 midwestgak


About 500 Renminbi.

/Chinese currency

At seven RMB to the US dollar, that's a hefty coin.

968 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:51:45am

re: #960 DeafDog

haha. Good one.

969 Learned Mother of Zion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:52:15am

Gotta make gefilte fish. BBIAB.

970 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:52:26am

re: #911 loppyd
Yup, I think Obama doesn't have a fucking clue what's really going on - he had a security breifing and it conflicted SO MUCH with his word view that he dismissed it out of hand.
Sigh.
He makes me very afraid for our country.

971 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:52:28am
972 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:52:46am

re: #951 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Well, it's encouraging that you are encouraged.
But, according to the presumed goals of the operation, if the IDF (or the Government, whoever makes the call) fails to rescue Gilad Shalit, leaves Hamas in place as the ruling entity in Gaza and allows cross-border smuggling into/out of the Strip to resume, then I can't consider it a victory.

973 Buck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:52:47am

re: #967 OldLineTexan

At seven RMB to the US dollar, that's a hefty coin.

You assume the dollar will be worth anything by then.

974 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:53:26am

re: #932 loppyd

re: #923 HoosierHoops


Calling AlGore! Calling AlGore!

Egad! Don't call him! Every time that man shows up somewhere a stinging frost occurs or a blizzared hits!

Calling upon him now would bring on another Ice Age!

975 razorbacker  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:53:34am

'Morning, Folks.

I am not a big fan of city life. Tried it, didn't like it. But something about that USAir crash yesterday stands out.

The reaction of the people running those water taxis and ferry boats speaks volumes about how people react in an genuine emergency. People need help, by gosh they came to help.

Good for them.

976 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:53:40am

re: #973 Buck

re: #967 OldLineTexan


You assume the dollar will be worth anything by then.

And the RMB won't? If both currencies go, we are going to see hard times.

977 Syrah  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:54:06am

re: #951 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I hope that your assessment is correct.

I worry that for Hamas that the terms of victory are to just survive with enough of a force left intact to stand in front of a camera to say "Israel was not able to kill every last one of us so we won."

978 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:54:48am

re: #920 DistantThunder
"Question:What political party is she? What are the odds that this guy is legit and NOT a grifter?" She's a Democrat and nil.

979 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:54:48am

Good (late!) morning, Lizards. It's -6 in the Pittsburgh area, so school is canceled today.

980 faraway  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:54:50am

re: #963 albusteve

he's not black

Bill Clinton has already been declared the First Black President.

If Obama ends "don't ask don't tell", he may be called the First Gay President.

981 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:54:59am

re: #949 realwest

Agreed. I just can't help but "hope" that his inability to stick to any one core value will also free him to "change" to what is expedient to getting the new job done and avoid responsibility for an attack.

Or I could just be whistling in the dark.

982 aggieann  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:55:19am

re: #746 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Tramp Stamp = Tattoo on the lower back


Actually, around here they're know as a$$ antlers and a tramp stamp is any tattoo.

983 Buck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:55:28am

re: #972 Lincolntf

Well, it's encouraging that you are encouraged.
But, according to the presumed goals of the operation, if the IDF (or the Government, whoever makes the call) fails to rescue Gilad Shalit, leaves Hamas in place as the ruling entity in Gaza and allows cross-border smuggling into/out of the Strip to resume, then I can't consider it a victory.

I know we (and the world) didn't think '06 was a victory either. But I think History will show something else. Today Hezbollah is muzzled, a rabid junk yard dog, but muzzled.

I don't think it take too much imagination to know what Hezbollah would be doing right now, if '06 had not happened.

984 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:55:51am

re: #922 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)Started at 16, now down to 13! High supposed to be 30. Hah.

985 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:55:55am
986 VegasRick  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:56:18am

re: #977 Syrah

re: #951 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I hope that your assessment is correct.

I worry that for Hamas that the terms of victory are to just survive with enough of a force left intact to stand in front of a camera to say "Israel was not able to kill every last one of us so we won."

I feel the same way. Hubris with these folks is incredible (think bagdad bob).

987 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:56:25am

re: #951 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Thanks for that excellent post.

The final 'objective,' IMO, would be to have Hamas scream 'Uncle' - i.e., a formal surrender of Hamas. Is that possible?

988 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:56:46am

re: #959 Syrah

Turlington's lower back tattoo remover.

Hi Billy Mays here! Want to get rid of that slutty tramp stamp?
Try the new tramp stamp chisle, only $19.95.
But wait, act now & we will throw in a bottle of White Out!

989 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:57:05am

Gotta go do some work.
>:[
See y'all later.

990 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:57:34am

re: #933 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) al-Cpon? Groan! and LOL!

991 vapig  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:58:08am

It's been fun - but it's time to clean house.

bbiab

992 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:58:10am

re: #971 Iron Fist

If they aren't already an attractive woman, a little ink across the lower back isn't going to do anything about that.

Seems like doodling on a masterpiece if you ask me. God did great work when it comes to the female form.

/if she isn't attractive, it ain't gonna help.

993 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:58:27am

Syrah- thanks for your dings the other night on the needs of the one. That meant a lot to me.

994 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:58:53am

re: #988 opnion

re: #959 Syrah


Turlington's lower back tattoo remover.


Hi Billy Mays here! Want to get rid of that slutty tramp stamp?
Try the new tramp stamp chisle, only $19.95.
But wait, act now & we will throw in a bottle of White Out!

Racist
/

995 faraway  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:59:00am

re: #988 opnion

Hi Billy Mays here! Want to get rid of that slutty tramp stamp?
Try the new tramp stamp chisle, only $19.95.
But wait, act now & we will throw in a bottle of White Out!

Honco Stamp Remover - Act Now and you get a free 5 day stay in rehab

996 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:59:06am

re: #941 DeafDog And deservedly so. About time a Vietnam Vet showed his mettle and the public (i.e., the MSM) took notice.

997 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:59:33am

re: #984 realwest

Started at 16, now down to 13! High supposed to be 30. Hah.

Grumble.

998 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:59:58am
999 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:59:59am

re: #983 Buck

I read an article (Friedman, maybe?) today that says about the same thing about Lebanon. I disagreed with his assessment. Hezbollah (Iran) is still running the show up there (if history is any guide, they are rapidly up-arming in anticipation of future attacks on Israel) so I certainly don't consider the 2006 war to be a victory.

1000 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:00:20am

re: #996 realwest

And deservedly so. About time a Vietnam Vet showed his mettle and the public (i.e., the MSM) took notice.

Happens frequently. John Kerry.
/wait ... you meant an honorable vet ... my bad ...

1001 Texas Heathen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:00:24am

re: #980 faraway

Bill Clinton has already been declared the First Black President.

If Obama ends "don't ask don't tell", he may be called the First Gay President.

Why was Bill called that? I hear that a lot and don't understand. Is he half black? He sure don't look it.

1002 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:00:35am

re: #978 realwest

"Question:What political party is she? What are the odds that this guy is legit and NOT a grifter?" She's a Democrat and nil.

A+

1003 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:00:42am

re: #990 realwest

al-Cpon? Groan! and LOL!

Not mine... one of the names floated for the illustrious Gaza Rooster.

1004 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:00:50am

re: #965 Alouette

re: #956 opnion


The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the civilian equivalent of the MOH.


Thank you, that's it. Schumers comment kind of reminds of Sheila Jaskson Lee, when she was informed that one of our unmanned craft would be in sight of Mars taking photos. She asked, "Will they see our flag there?"

1005 Syrah  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:01:15am

re: #987 DeafDog

Thanks for that excellent post.

The final 'objective,' IMO, would be to have Hamas scream 'Uncle' - i.e., a formal surrender of Hamas. Is that possible?

I think that "Humiliation" is the key to victory over the Islamic scum. The only thing that they prize is their pride. Anything that allows them to walk away from a fight with out having to acknowledge publicly that they have been beaten in a most humiliating way is for them a victory.

1006 yochanan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:01:28am

re: #942 loppyd

Arschgeweih

1007 albusteve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:01:38am

re: #985 Iron Fist

Yeah, I'm just waiting for black voters to figure that out. If he goes for reperations for slavery, will the white ancestors ow him for what was done to is black ancestors? Oh, wait, his African heritage doesn't involve slavery. I guess the white part of him is gonna pay...

he's a phoney...he's used his blackness to game the system...Afro-Americans should be insulted with this hypocritical bull shit...the fact that they feel just the opposite tells me a few things...there is racism in the house pure and simple and it's not just a few mongers

1008 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:02:05am

gotta work. bbl

1009 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:02:24am

re: #998 Iron Fist

I find it hard to believe he's alive as well. But I often hear that Israel presumes he is still alive. Is that just wishful thinking or has anyone actually verified it?

1010 rightside  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:02:38am

By the way, it's officially called the Medal of Honor.

The medal is frequently, albeit incorrectly, called the Congressional Medal of Honor, stemming from its award by the Department of Defense "in the name of Congress.

1011 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:02:47am

re: #1001 Texas Heathen

Why was Bill called that? I hear that a lot and don't understand. Is he half black? He sure don't look it.

According to the black Atlanta mayor - Bill is sluttier than a black man. I think his sexual exploitation of employees and state workers had something to do with it.

1012 Syrah  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:03:50am

re: #993 Sharmuta

Syrah- thanks for your dings the other night on the needs of the one. That meant a lot to me.

You stated a self-evident truth.

I wish it was so self-evident that you would not have a need to state it, but the world that we live in needs it tattooed to its forehead.

1013 spirochete  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:04:07am

re: #1004 opnion

re: #965 Alouette


re: #956 opnion

That single remark taught me a helluva lot about politics.


The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the civilian equivalent of the MOH.


Thank you, that's it. Schumers comment kind of reminds of Sheila Jaskson Lee, when she was informed that one of our unmanned craft would be in sight of Mars taking photos. She asked, "Will they see our flag there?"
1014 faraway  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:04:37am

re: #1005 Syrah

I think that "Humiliation" is the key to victory over the Islamic scum. The only thing that they prize is their pride. Anything that allows them to walk away from a fight with out having to acknowledge publicly that they have been beaten in a most humiliating way is for them a victory.

How would you ever say you beat Hamas? Any fool from outside Gaza can go on TV and say Hamas won and start spewing crap. Gaza would have thousands of Hamas members in Gaza by next year.

How do ever get around this?

1015 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:04:56am

re: #1005 Syrah

Which is exactly why I'd like to see the 'surrender'

1016 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:05:06am

re: #953 Iron Fist
Very good comment - and spot on, too. Obama's worse than an empty suit - he's an empty suit that a LOT of Americans have put their faith in and the MSM has put their fading credibility into as well.
This is going to be BRUTAL.

1017 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:05:13am

U.S., Israel to sign deal to boost Gaza truce effort

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

I smell bullshit!

1018 DaddyG  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:06:08am

re: #580 realwest

Uh, if y'all read that story Hanks wasn't talking about the Mormon Church, he said " the truth is these people are some bizarre offshoot of the Mormon Church, and the truth is a lot of Mormons gave a lot of money to the church to make Prop-8 happen,” . That's a long way from saying the Mormon church defeated Prop 8 out there.

O.K. I misread that. The Church didn't fund prop-8 or anti Prop 8 groups. It encouraged members to be active in the political arena. (It always does that but usually in a very non-partisan way). Individual members may have donated to the lobbying efforts on both sides but that wouldn't make them a "bizarre offshoot". We are always encouraged to be active in the political process.

/we like to keep our bizarre offshoots in Texas and Arizona with their many wives

1019 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:06:21am
1020 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:07:34am

re: #959 Syrah
ROFL! Good morning Syrah! How are ya today?

1021 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:07:54am

re: #1016 realwest

Very good comment - and spot on, too. Obama's worse than an empty suit - he's an empty suit that a LOT of Americans have put their faith in and the MSM has put their fading credibility into as well.
This is going to be BRUTAL.

I fear you are right. These are political predators.

1022 DaddyG  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:08:09am

re: #576 vapig

Black AND hispanic vote. I'd say together they outnumber the Mormons!
But for the most part, Mormons are white, people of faith (which = bigots) and a legitimate target.

Ouch! You may be right.

As different as we are we blend in pretty well. ;-)

1023 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:08:25am

re: #1001 Texas Heathen

Why was Bill called that? I hear that a lot and don't understand. Is he half black? He sure don't look it.

From what I've heard liberal black people (i.e., Toni Morrison) say, it was because he was in trouble with the law & had a problem keeping his hands to himself. Again, this is what liberal black people have said - says a lot about how they see the "typical" black man, doesn't it?

1024 yochanan  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:08:29am

re: #982 aggieann

Actually, around here they're know as a$$ antlers and a tramp stamp is any tattoo.

Arschgeweih

1025 kcladderman  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:08:46am
1026 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:09:01am

re: #962 loppyd
ZINC! Loppyd ZINC and lots of Vita C and SLEEP!
Feel better fast!

1027 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:10:03am

re: #1019 Iron Fist

It's sort of like the nose piercing thing. When I was in high school there was a Indian (East India) girl in class with me that had a nose stud. On her, it was cute and a little exotic because it brought a little of her country's customs to the United States. Of course, it didn't hurt that she was a rather attractive woman anyway. On a white chick from America a nose stud looks, well, crude. It doesn't add anything good at all.

Exactly.

1028 albusteve  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:10:35am

re: #1016 realwest

Very good comment - and spot on, too. Obama's worse than an empty suit - he's an empty suit that a LOT of Americans have put their faith in and the MSM has put their fading credibility into as well.
This is going to be BRUTAL.

his idea of citizenship is the exact opposite of mine...it he wants to serve the nation he would be back in the senate learning the craft...he is a liar and a cheat and I will never have the slightest respect for him no matter how he does...the fact that he gained the office under such dubious circumstances speaks volumes...I hate the feds

1029 Texas Heathen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:10:36am

hey realwest...*poking head up from under my desk*... you uh over that jealousy from yesterday yet?
heh

1030 Buck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:10:37am

re: #999 Lincolntf

I read an article (Friedman, maybe?) today that says about the same thing about Lebanon. I disagreed with his assessment. Hezbollah (Iran) is still running the show up there (if history is any guide, they are rapidly up-arming in anticipation of future attacks on Israel) so I certainly don't consider the 2006 war to be a victory.

I know what you mean, but please think of it this way... Hezbollah, while running a government (instead of having the freedom to just be a terror organization) is starting to feel like they have to answer to the people. Democracy there, although not quite as mature as we would like, is getting stronger.

When a few rouge players shot off some missiles into Israel from Lebanon this week, there was quite a flurry of activity to make sure it didn't happen again. It does look like it was unauthorized.

I don't think Hezbollah wants to "win" another war with Israel.

1031 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:11:05am

re: #975 razorbacker
You are absolutely correct. But wait - that was New York City - how can that be?
/very heavy.

1032 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:11:45am
1033 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:12:01am

re: #1019 Iron Fist

Saw my first nose stud back in 79-80. Same thing, but in public school. Think some of these piercings now-a-days has gone off the deep end.

1034 opnion  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:12:03am

re: #1001 Texas Heathen

re: #980 faraway


Why was Bill called that? I hear that a lot and don't understand. Is he half black? He sure don't look it.

The author Toni Morrison had a lot to do with Clinton being viewed as the first Black Preisident.
She thought that because in her words, he came from a broken home,
played sax & liked fast food.

1035 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:12:03am

re: #979 goddessoftheclassroom Good morning {goddess} - hope you found out that school was closed BEFORE you left home!

1036 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:12:50am
1037 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:13:19am

re: #1028 albusteve

his idea of citizenship is the exact opposite of mine...it he wants to serve the nation he would be back in the senate learning the craft...he is a liar and a cheat and I will never have the slightest respect for him no matter how he does...the fact that he gained the office under such dubious circumstances speaks volumes...I hate the feds

The sh*t hits the fan when they've finished milking the "rich" for all they are worth and try to get Joe SixPack to pay his $32,000 "fair share".

1038 Texas Heathen  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:13:25am

re: #1023 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Seriously? He was called the first black president because of his loose morals? And it was liberal blacks who gave him that label? UnF*ckingBelievable

1039 Syrah  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:14:55am

re: #1014 faraway

How would you ever say you beat Hamas? Any fool from outside Gaza can go on TV and say Hamas won and start spewing crap. Gaza would have thousands of Hamas members in Gaza by next year.

How do ever get around this?

This is the most difficult part.

We are facing an enemy that lives internally in the age of Mohamed where a captured enemy can be, and would be treated in the most horrific manner possible. The enemy does this even today. Do any of us doubt that they have not treated Gilad in the most horrific and inhumane way possible?

To achieve victory over this enemy, we must make him feel as humiliated and ill treated as he would do to us.

I have doubts that a modern westerner is even capable of devolving so low.

1040 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:15:03am

re: #998 Iron Fist
"There are a lot of things Israel should do that they aren't willing to do."
Not unlike the US, I'm afraid.

1041 razorbacker  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:15:47am

I bin thinkin', and boy does my head hurt.

Osama supposedly released a new tape the other day. Now let us think that little factoid through...

You're leading a worldwide struggle against the Great Satan and you have to release a cassette tape with your greatest hits on it? Really, Osama? A cassette? I haven't recorded a cassette since what, 1990 or so? Way to old school it, dude.

You started out as amazingly rich, one of the members of the richest families in the world. Talk about living down to expectations. From a palace to a cave to be named later.

But, in your favor, you are a big whooping deal to a bunch of goat-humping, child-raping, thump-their-heads-against-the-floor-five-times-a-day cretins. So you got that going for you.

At least your Momma is proud of you. Even if she can't say so.

1042 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:16:47am
1043 Syrah  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:17:01am

re: #1020 realwest

ROFL! Good morning Syrah! How are ya today?

Doing well. I hope you are doing well this day.

Time to head off to work.

Catch you all later this evening.

1044 DaddyG  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:18:06am

re: #665 vapig

My real problem with them (my ONLY problem, actually) is the use of their celebrity to give them airtime in which to spew their anti-American bile as though they are sages of some sort. The press fawns all over them and the weak think they are hearing wise words from on High. They are actors - they shouldn't have that sort of power or influence.

If that power or influence is gained through legitimate leadership and political service I don't mind so much (ala Ron Reagan, Ed Asner) but it's the lobbying through the work that drives me nuts. When someone uses their day job (movies, press conferences about movies, etc.) to spread propaganda it should be considred paid political advertising and counted as such.

I have an old Barbara Streisand album I don't listen too, not because the songs aren't good, but because she had to give a political speech as the intro to each one. Yuck!

1045 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:18:06am
1046 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:19:17am
1047 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:19:30am

re: #1029 Texas Heathen
What jealousy?! Damn senior moments! LOL!

1048 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:19:44am
1049 DaddyG  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:20:50am

re: #765 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

and they look like crap. IMHO.

Typically worn with hip-hugger jeans that the girl really shouldn't be wearing, if you know what I mean.

Are you referring to the ones that would even make Twiggie look like she was wearing a pink innertube around her butt?

1050 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:20:51am
1051 realwest  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:21:52am

re: #1039 Syrah
"To achieve victory over this enemy, we must make him feel as humiliated and ill treated as he would do to us."
Or kill that enemy.

1052 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:22:57am

re: #1035 realwest

Good morning {goddess} - hope you found out that school was closed BEFORE you left home!

{realwest}
Oh, yes, it was announced yesterday--the BEST kind of cancellation, if we have to have one!

1053 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:24:32am
1054 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:27:32am
1055 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 8:34:17am
1056 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:01:51am

re: #946 spirochete

This sounds like it may be a true story. Is it?

No not at all. But over the years, I've been amazed by friends and stories in which very ugly things come to light about boyfriends or husbands, and the peope blame the messenger. It's Ironic that have the madoff scandal and people said it as too good to be true, and he schmoozed at all these country clubs and sucked people in. The big difference with him is that he did not have corruption in his background - but obama has his grifter "crew" absolutely do - and it's leaking out everywhere.

1057 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:02:45am

Couple follow up points>

In the neighborhood of the ME, Israel's keys to victory are defined somewhat differently- survival is the basic goal, deterrence is the next possible stage past that and, the dream, "peace" is somewhere past that.

Only time will tell if deterrence worked, either the Hezbos have checked fire because they have changed and now love Israel or they are waiting for Obama or they are afraid. With deterrence only time and the nonoccurence of aggression determines if you deterred the enemy.

Whether Hamas surrenders or not is irrelevant. Saddam never surrendered; but is dead and his regime with him.

Finally, to Ploome, while the Palis don't deserve mercy, and clearly Israel's battle with what is right in her wars can only be answered by those who fight them, it also does not matter what Palestinians think when argue and act from annihilationalist ideals, but what does matter is the truth. The truth of Israel is simple- the need for a Jewish State is proved every day, the morality and justness of her cause is unassailable to her defenders and reasonable minds and her people believe that this, the harder road to ultimate victory is the right one.

It is very clear the Hamasniks grossly miscalculated and have said so themselves. Dictatorships that lose wars tend to evaporate after defeat of their military adventures. Meanwhile, the Damascus leadership of Hamas are putting their Gaza people in an impossible position by ordering them to continue fighting a losing war. Eventually, the people doing the dying won't show up.

1058 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:23:47am
1059 Eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:24:17am

re: #1042 Iron Fist

I've not heard of any proof of life being given. Just vague talk of a prisoner swap. This wouldn't be the first time that Israel has traded living terrorists for dead Israelis.

I'd have handled the kidnappings quite a bit differently had I been in charge. I'd have just gone apeshit in Gaza, and given them a vague promise that I'd stop when my people were returned alive and unharmed.

Or when I ran out of people to kill and things to destroy in Gaza. I think that approach would end the kidnapping thing for ever. The only reason that the Mohammedans do it is because they know (or think they know) that Israel won't react in any meaningful way. From that prospective, it is no wonder that Paleisinians kidnap Israelis. It is a very rewarding form of warfare, with only a small amount of risk when they actually take the hostage.

Marines, shores of Tripoli = No more kidnapping

1060 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:27:39am
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