Yes, the votes are in, more than 26,000 of them, and we have a clear winner. You might even call it a landslide, with 39.2% of the vote. For their leg-tingling coverage of the Obama campaign, and other misbehaviors too numerous to mention, the 2008 Idiotarian Award will go to … the Mainstream Media.
There will be a formal presentation of the award with illustration by Cox & Forkum soon.
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Abu Boo Boo Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:08:42pm |
We have a winner.
Don't you mean: We have a loser ?
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:08:54pm |
MSM. MSM.MSM. MSM.MSM. MSM.MSM. MSM.MSM. MSM.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:09:18pm |
MSM in front, with Barney Frank behind. Not his preferred position, but he'll switch-hit.
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Desert Dog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:09:45pm |
re: #1 Abu Boo Boo
Don't you mean: We have a loser ?
They are the winners.....and we are the losers, as we have to watch them
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Last Mohican Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:09:59pm |
Congratulations, and a big hearty MFY to the MSM!
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Dustyvet Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:10:24pm |
Cools and on the same day the Minneapolis Strib filed Chapter 11.
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Abu Boo Boo Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:10:42pm |
re: #4 Desert Dog
They are the winners.....and we are the losers, as we have to watch them
OK, you got me on a technicality.
But I still think they are the biggest bunch of losers either side of the Mississippi.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:11:01pm |
Wait for McKinney to bitch 'cause she's No. 3.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:11:37pm |
re: #7 Killgore Trout
It was a landslide.
I sympathy-voted for Bawney Fwank. To me, he's the poster child for Fanny and Freddie.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:12:15pm |
Since it was the MSM that won, can their award presentation consist of the award being shoved up Keith Olbermann's ass? I couldn't suggest shoving the award up Barney Frank's ass, he'd like it too much.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:12:42pm |
re: #11 OldLineTexan
I was hoping Ben Stein would have done better.
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J.D. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:12:44pm |
Missed the vote but let me say I would have most assuredly voted for the MSM. Without them, BO would never have been elected.
Schmucks.
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robdouth Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:13:06pm |
You can't use the term Leg-tingling to describe the media, because you also have Chris Matthews by himself, and the leg-tingling was specifically his comment. It throws off the Fiskie when one of the people you can vote for is contained within another nominee. It's like asking me to choose between the Three Musketeers or Dartanian alone. It's like asking do I like atoms or protons. It's nonsensical.
Having said that, I voted for Matthews because he's ridiculous and I left MSM because that's too vague. I do love protons, but not all atoms are created equally.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:13:10pm |
re: #12 Dark_Falcon
Since it was the MSM that won, can their award presentation consist of the award being shoved up Keith Olbermann's ass? I couldn't suggest shoving the award up Barney Frank's ass, he'd like it too much.
See my comment: re: #3 Guanxi88
MSM in front, with Barney Frank behind. Not his preferred position, but he'll switch-hit.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:14:00pm |
re: #13 Killgore Trout
I was hoping Ben Stein would have done better.
Well, it was a pretty complete list. We could hold next year's election in Chicago, perhaps.
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Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:14:10pm |
I'm not happy because I think the term is too vague to have any real meaning.
But on the bright side, since they cannot compete again, I don't have to see them on the candidate list anymore.
To those that wanted the MSM to win, congratulations.
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Desert Dog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:14:28pm |
re: #9 Abu Boo Boo
OK, you got me on a technicality.
But I still think they are the biggest bunch of losers either side of the Mississippi.
Agreed
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sbvft contributor Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:15:18pm |
"They hate us, they really hate us." - MSM accepting award.
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Abu Boo Boo Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:15:42pm |
re: #13 Killgore Trout
I was hoping Ben Stein would have done better.
He was going to win, but Dick Cheney and the Elders of the Discovery Institute used their world dominating powers to alter the outcome.
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Last Mohican Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:16:17pm |
re: #15 robdouth
Yeah, but I think the entire MSM was experiencing tingling in its leg, and in other anatomic parts as well. That's why I voted for them. America has not seen such a massive giddy Swoon and Tingle show since the Beatles arrived in 1964.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:16:38pm |
re: #13 Killgore Trout
I was hoping Ben Stein would have done better.
He still has good sense when it comes to economics, so he can't expected to win an idiotarian award when the MSM has no good sense at all.
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Bobblehead Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:16:50pm |
OT.... Cool vid of an IDF officer using a Hamas terrorist as a human shield against the terrorist's own grenade
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:17:23pm |
It was a hard fought campaign. I would like to congratulate the MSM. I would also like to congratulate Barney Frank, who single-handedly the rest of the competition by more than two to one!
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:17:52pm |
When's the recount? There must be a recount! Elections don't happen without a recount.
/ It's cold out here!
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:18:27pm |
re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It was a hard fought campaign. I would like to congratulate the MSM. I would also like to congratulate Barney Frank, who single-handedly the rest of the competition by more than two to one!
I figgered he'd hafta use both ... oh, wait!
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:18:45pm |
I voted for Blago..Not even the MSM tried to sell a Senate seat..They promote but have nothing to sell
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Bubblehead II Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:18:48pm |
I voted for the Discovery Institute, but would have preferred to have been able to vote for those who willing shill for openly racist groups in the name of counter jihad.
But Charles is too classy for that type of stuff.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:18:48pm |
The MSM loves awards so much. I wonder when they'll announce they won this one?
I hear, however, they're giving the Gaza rooster the Pulletzer prize this year.
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:18:52pm |
I can't think of a more fitting honor to give to a bunch of mindless, leg tingling, Obamatons. I hope the enjoy the next four years of Oasshat.
Congrats MFMSM, you earned a Fiskie and my undying and eternal disrespect.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:19:07pm |
re: #25 Bobblehead
Was that guts flying? Was it? Huh? Please tell me that was guts flying!
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:19:19pm |
Good winner, I think.
The MSM runs the gamut - anti-Bush, anti-war on terror, pro-Hamas, huge political bias they don't even try to hide . . .
There are just so many things covered in that vote for the MSM.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:19:39pm |
re: #31 Kosh's Shadow
The MSM loves awards so much. I wonder when they'll announce they won this one?
I hear, however, they're giving the Gaza rooster the Pulletzer prize this year.
Eggcelent!
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Ayeless in Ghazi Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:20:37pm |
re: #18 Silhouette
I'm not happy because I think the term is too vague to have any real meaning.
But on the bright side, since they cannot compete again, I don't have to see them on the candidate list anymore.
To those that wanted the MSM to win, congratulations.
Agreed. I hope we don't see "The liberals" or something in next years nominations. These things are best when they are aimed at a specific target, ideally a person imo.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:20:53pm |
re: #33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was that guts flying? Was it? Huh? Please tell me that was guts flying!
Gibs, huh? Sweet!
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:21:01pm |
MSM includes Chris Matthews and Dan Rather, so we have a threefer.
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zato Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:21:37pm |
How much longer before the traditional sources of mainstream journalism are more comprehesively replaced by the much more accurate sources in the blogosphere? Tumbling ratings and newspaper subsriptions are probably reflecting the shift; for instance, the NY Times is clearly on track for being out of business (outside Manhattan at least) over the next few years.
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Bobblehead Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:21:51pm |
re: #33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was that guts flying? Was it? Huh? Please tell me that was guts flying!
I don't know but I'm in awe of the Israeli officer's quick thinking.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:21:55pm |
re: #38 Alouette
MSM includes Chris Matthews and Dan Rather, so we have a threefer.
Like I said earlier - that vote for the MSM covers a whole lotta ground.
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Conservative in Liberal Hands Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:22:05pm |
I hereby nominate the dishonorable ex-senator from Chicago, O-bummer as the lead candidate for the 2009 Idiotarian Award.
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J.D. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:22:39pm |
I just heard today that Gannett is requiring all their employees to take off a week without pay. Wonder how much time that will buy them?
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:22:48pm |
re: #38 Alouette
MSM includes Chris Matthews and Dan Rather, so we have a threefer.
I'm just happy Katie Couric finally gets her props
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:23:01pm |
re: #43 Conservative in Liberal Hands
I hereby nominate the dishonorable ex-senator from Chicago, O-bummer as the lead candidate for the 2009 Idiotarian Award.
He's just Howdy Doody. You're really actually upset with Buffalo Bob.
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Diamond Bullet Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:23:10pm |
This is sort of like Time Magazine's 2006 "Man of the Year = Everybody", except 1) in reverse and 2) not hopelessly lame.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:23:17pm |
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jaunte Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:23:18pm |
The MSM, starring Chris Matthews, Dan Rather, Katie Couric, Keith Olberman, Bill Moyers, Geraldo Rivera, Ladies of the View, and on and on. Certainly not a complete listing, and feel free to add more of your own. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
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subsailor68 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:23:29pm |
Wow. This seems like an appropriate thread to propose a game a couple of us were talking about on the earlier one. Here's the idea:
Lizards find a story in the MSM, then rewrite the headline so it is the reverse of what the story was actually saying. (Or vice versa.) Then, we all get to look at the headline (linked to the story that was chosen) without mousing over the hot link. When you've guessed what the story was about, click the link to see if you were right.
The game could be great for two reasons. First, lizards tend to be creative anyway, and the results could be good for a laugh. And second, it would be a tongue-in-cheek slap at the MSM's tendency to try to pull this crap for real.
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Empire1 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:24:04pm |
And earned by unremitting effort!
Well, Barney Frank made a pretty good showing, too; maybe he'll have a better chance next year, with the MSM out of the running.
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:24:27pm |
As always, Charles, this is an important result that will be firmly ignored.
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J.D. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:24:28pm |
Does anyone know whether CNN showed George W.'s speech last night?
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Pyrocles Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:24:29pm |
My father LOVES Chris Matthews... I had to listen to him sing Matthews' praises all through Christmas. Goddamn :(
re: #15 robdouth
You can't use the term Leg-tingling to describe the media, because you also have Chris Matthews by himself, and the leg-tingling was specifically his comment. It throws off the Fiskie when one of the people you can vote for is contained within another nominee. It's like asking me to choose between the Three Musketeers or Dartanian alone. It's like asking do I like atoms or protons. It's nonsensical.
Having said that, I voted for Matthews because he's ridiculous and I left MSM because that's too vague. I do love protons, but not all atoms are created equally.
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itellu3times Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:24:55pm |
The MSM is our wiener - pre-cooked and pre-digested food almost unrecognizable from the real meat, including less than 1% insect parts, rat hair, and human fingertips.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:25:02pm |
I heard on FOX just a sec ago that Obama will "end" coercive interrogations with an executive order as soon as he takes office, along with "don't tell don't ask". And the hits just keep in coming.
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:25:26pm |
re: #51 Empire1
And earned by unremitting effort!
Well, Barney Frank made a pretty good showing, too; maybe he'll have a better chance next year, with the MSM out of the running.
I first voted for Ben Stein - but when I saw how badly he was outvoted, I had to change my vote.
Pity - he's practically the definition of a suicidal idiotarian.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:25:42pm |
It is a pity though, i already had the band lined up for if Dan Rather won:
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ichef Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:25:46pm |
Since the MSM won .... it's sending a little tingle up my leg ....
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:25:52pm |
re: #55 itellu3times
The MSM is our wiener - pre-cooked and pre-digested food almost unrecognizable from the real meat, including less than 1% insect parts, rat hair, and human fingertips.
I thought it was all lips and a**holes.
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blangwort Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:26:02pm |
So who do we give the "Mainstream Media" Fiskie to?
I think Barney Frank should have won. People will be spitting every time they hear his name for generations to come.
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:26:10pm |
re: #55 itellu3times
The MSM is our wiener - pre-cooked and pre-digested food almost unrecognizable from the real meat, including less than 1% insect parts, rat hair, and human fingertips.
Heh ... Spam
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:26:29pm |
re: #44 J.D.
I just heard today that Gannett is requiring all their employees to take off a week without pay. Wonder how much time that will buy them?
Most people will use vacation, which cleans it of the books at present value instead of future value.
My company does it every year, usually Christmas week, but we have done the week of July 4 as well Of course, they don't call it a week of without pay. They call it a site closure.
In the good old days when there were manufacturing jobs in this country, many plants would have one to two week closures for annual maintenance. Chemical plants and refineries halt ops in sections to get these important tasks done, and the employees not directly involved either go home or are farmed out to other groups.
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JammieWearingFool Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:26:40pm |
Congratulations to you media assclowns. You deserve all the scorn and opprobrium coming your way.
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J.S. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:26:56pm |
re: #53 J.D.
Yes they did...Wolf Blitzer was there...(i switched channels, so I didn't see what/who was on immediately afterwards -- I believe they had on some lame half-wits "dissecting" the President's remarks.)
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itellu3times Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:26:57pm |
re: #61 blangwort
I think Barney Frank should have won. People will be spitting every time they hear his name for generations to come.
You just made his day.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:27:22pm |
Should I say Congratulations to the losers?
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Miss Trixie Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:27:23pm |
re: #31 Kosh's Shadow
The MSM loves awards so much. I wonder when they'll announce they won this one?
I hear, however, they're giving the Gaza rooster the Pulletzer prize this year.
Ummmm ... perhaps a Pullet, sir?
*giggle*
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midwestgak Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:27:28pm |
re: #53 J.D.
Does anyone know whether CNN showed George W.'s speech last night?
They did. And a better job than FOX, IMO. Full screen Bush on CNN. Split screen on FOX. Wanted to see my-sson-to-be-ex-president's full face for the last time. :(
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Bubblehead II Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:27:36pm |
re: #61 blangwort
Someone in one of the other threads nominated Cognito to accept the Award on their behalf.
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maddogg Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:27:53pm |
In other news, "Singer-turned-DJ Boy George has been jailed for 15 months for handcuffing a male escort to a wall and beating him with a metal chain."
I'm not really sure he will consider that punishment...
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:27:54pm |
re: #56 Nevergiveup
I heard on FOX just a sec ago that Obama will "end" coercive interrogations with an executive order as soon as he takes office, along with "don't tell don't ask". And the hits just keep in coming.
Why doesn't he "end" poverty, hunger, and disease by executive order, as well?
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:28:16pm |
re: #56 Nevergiveup
I heard on FOX just a sec ago that Obama will "end" coercive interrogations with an executive order as soon as he takes office, along with "don't tell don't ask". And the hits just keep in coming.
The repeal of "don't ask don't tell" is going to go over like a lead balloon in the military. I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals but it's one thing to have no problem with their lifestyle, it's another to have a man ogling you in the shower because he can now be open about his choice. I predict a lot of sexual harassment cases in the not too distant future.
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:28:23pm |
re: #61 blangwort
So who do we give the "Mainstream Media" Fiskie to?
I think Barney Frank should have won. People will be spitting every time they hear his name for generations to come.
Pinch can accept on behalf of the Lamestream media. It can go into the NYT trophy case next to the '33 Pullet Surprise.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:28:27pm |
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J.D. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:28:33pm |
re: #63 OldLineTexan
Toyota Manufacturing does that.
Gannett is calling this a "furlough".
Gannett to Furlough Workers for Week
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Last Mohican Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:28:49pm |
re: #42 reine.de.tout
In my mind, voting for the MSM doesn't simply indicate that there are many individual people and you'd like them all to share in the award. It marks the fact that this was the year when basically the entire journalism industry in America simply decided that it would no longer do journalism.
There were always bad reporters, plenty of them. But the fact that the entire mainstream media establishment dismantled itself this year is what made it worthy of the award. The unanimity of the phenomenon is what's Fiskie-worthy.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:28:50pm |
re: #67 ploome hineni
I think we need a catgory for a runner up
the Winner will get the FISKIE
and the runnerup can have the TURD award........let me nominate as the TURD of the year
BARNEY FRANK/
No, pony, he's only going to LIKE that.
/
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LGoPs Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:29:54pm |
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itellu3times Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:29:57pm |
y'know, on another topic entirely, the stock market chart for Bank of America looks friggin' awful, like it STILL isn't done going down.
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Ford_Prefect Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:30:14pm |
OK, Lizards! I am off. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend. Stay safe and warm. I will not be around much next week as I will be working out of the office. Try to manage without me. I know it will be hard, but I have faith in you all.
Later!
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:30:15pm |
re: #72 maddogg
In other news, "Singer-turned-DJ Boy George has been jailed for 15 months for handcuffing a male escort to a wall and beating him with a metal chain."
I'm not really sure he will consider that punishment...
He may go in as Boy George, but he will come out as Man George.
/and not the good way, either
//do you really want to hurt me is a rhetorical question in da hoosegow
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:30:28pm |
re: #83 Ford_Prefect
OK, Lizards! I am off. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend. Stay safe and warm. I will not be around much next week as I will be working out of the office. Try to manage without me. I know it will be hard, but I have faith in you all.
Later!
Thumbs out, baby!
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Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:30:31pm |
re: #67 ploome hineni
I think we need a catgory for a runner up
the Winner will get the FISKIE
and the runnerup can have the TURD award........let me nominate as the TURD of the year
BARNEY FRANK/
Barney will enjoy that.
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J.D. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:30:32pm |
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itellu3times Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:30:34pm |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:30:43pm |
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:30:54pm |
re: #74 Jetpilot1101
The repeal of "don't ask don't tell" is going to go over like a lead balloon in the military. I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals but it's one thing to have no problem with their lifestyle, it's another to have a man ogling you in the shower because he can now be open about his choice. I predict a lot of sexual harassment cases in the not too distant future.
.... and more trouble recruiting. I'm sure that's why Henry Waxman wants the draft back.
///
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:31:43pm |
re: #79 Last Mohican
In my mind, voting for the MSM doesn't simply indicate that there are many individual people and you'd like them all to share in the award. It marks the fact that this was the year when basically the entire journalism industry in America simply decided that it would no longer do journalism.
There were always bad reporters, plenty of them. But the fact that the entire mainstream media establishment dismantled itself this year is what made it worthy of the award. The unanimity of the phenomenon is what's Fiskie-worthy.
Well, exactly.
That vote for the MSM covers a lot of ground.
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:31:43pm |
re: #84 OldLineTexan
He may go in as Boy George, but he will come out as Man George.
/and not the good way, either
//do you really want to hurt me is a rhetorical question in da hoosegow
Well, if he can get a waiver for the felony conviction, he'll be able to join the US military when he gets out.
So he's got that goin' for him...
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Desert Storm Vet I Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:31:45pm |
Would a 3-foot piece of bronzed feces be an apporpriate trophy for the MSM? Oh shit, #67 beat me to the idea.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:31:52pm |
re: #86 Alouette
Barney will enjoy that.
Seeing as how he probaly hasn't been able to produce more than a WHOOOOOSHHH for years.
/I'm sorry
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:31:59pm |
re: #74 Jetpilot1101
The repeal of "don't ask don't tell" is going to go over like a lead balloon in the military. I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals but it's one thing to have no problem with their lifestyle, it's another to have a man ogling you in the shower because he can now be open about his choice. I predict a lot of sexual harassment cases in the not too distant future.
You think the newly "out" won't handle rejection well, huh?
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Last Mohican Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:32:10pm |
re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
...Barney Frank, who single-handedly the rest of the competition by more than two to one!
Right after he accidentally the whole bottle?
/It took me a long time to figure out what the hell that stupid little internet catch phrase was from, so I figured I'd take this opportunity to give y'all the link.
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Dustyvet Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:32:23pm |
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Miss Trixie Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:33:02pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:33:08pm |
re: #55 itellu3times
The MSM is our wiener - pre-cooked and pre-digested food almost unrecognizable from the real meat, including less than 1% insect parts, rat hair, and human fingertips.
Now with extra regurgitated anti-Semitism.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:33:14pm |
re: #96 Guanxi88
You think the newly "out" won't handle rejection well, huh?
I think if it ain't broke don't fix it!
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quickjustice Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:33:16pm |
These guys are going down hard-- unless "O" rescues them.
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faraway Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:33:21pm |
Journalism is Dead. Who is the widow to accept the award?
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maddogg Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:34:19pm |
re: #89 buzzsawmonkey
And here's....Boy George singing, "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me?"
I am NOT clicking on that link....
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:34:35pm |
re: #72 maddogg
In other news, "Singer-turned-DJ Boy George has been jailed for 15 months for handcuffing a male escort to a wall and beating him with a metal chain."
I'm not really sure he will consider that punishment...
Boy George is GAY? I missed the memo completely.
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Dustyvet Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:34:47pm |
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J.D. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:35:02pm |
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:35:20pm |
re: #106 MandyManners
Boy George is GAY? I missed the memo completely.
I've heard rumours that Elton John may be, as well...
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:35:29pm |
re: #106 MandyManners
Boy George is GAY? I missed the memo completely.
I don't know if even Boy George got it.
Odd, odd person.
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LGoPs Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:35:37pm |
re: #83 Ford_Prefect
OK, Lizards! I am off. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend. Stay safe and warm. I will not be around much next week as I will be working out of the office. Try to manage without me. I know it will be hard, but I have faith in you all.
Later!
Don't Panic.......
:)
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:35:38pm |
re: #104 faraway
Journalism is Dead. Who is the widow to accept the award?
The buggy-whip manufacturers.
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Abu Kuffar Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:35:46pm |
Why was the anti-idiotarian poll dropped out this year?
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ichef Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:35:51pm |
re: #67 ploome hineni
I'm all for categorizing the Fiskies!
The TURD for Barney for the Obfuscation of Responsibility
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JammieWearingFool Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:01pm |
When told he would be going to an all-male penal colony, Boy George begged the judge for a harsher sentence.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:10pm |
re: #100 Miss Trixie
Indeed. Folks have said I've got a lot of pluck.
*giggle*
I thought you know for being cocky?
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:14pm |
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Dustyvet Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:17pm |
re: #100 Miss Trixie
Indeed. Folks have said I've got a lot of pluck.
*giggle*
That pun was just ducky
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maddogg Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:34pm |
re: #106 MandyManners
Boy George is GAY? I missed the memo completely.
I hope this doesn't embarrass you, but I hear Barny Frank is a little light in the loafers too. :)
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:49pm |
re: #91 eschew_obfuscation
.... and more trouble recruiting. I'm sure that's why Henry Waxman wants the draft back.
///
O-ass-hat has never served in a military unit and doesn't have the first f---ing clue about morale or unit cohesion. The jacktard thinks that a piece of paper is going to fix everything for the poor oppressed gays in the military. I've got a newsflash for you soon-to-be-commander-in-chief, the military is NOT a social organization; it is designed to kill people and break things. Trying out "progressive" social experiments to appease your wacko base in the military will only weaken it and make you look like a imbecile. Good luck with your agenda, you are going to need it.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:52pm |
re: #109 lobo91
I've heard rumours that Elton John may be, as well...
that is a viscous rumor! Just like the one about Rosie being a fat lesbo?
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:36:53pm |
re: #113 Abu Kuffar
Lack of candidates. It's been a pretty miserable year.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:37:01pm |
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:37:22pm |
re: #110 Dianna
I don't know if even Boy George got it.
Odd, odd person.
Didja' see his photograph? He's not aged gracefully at all.
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Dustyvet Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:37:27pm |
re: #119 maddogg
I hope this doesn't embarrass you, but I hear Barny Frank is a little light in the loafers too. :)
A shirt puller...
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:37:34pm |
Can I revote?
Envirowackoism gone wild.
Seems my local State Rep. has a fabulous idea.
//
REQUIRE retail stores that sell small power equipment to give equal floor space to battery and electrical equipment, and to provide signs that explain the benefits of them.
*gah* can we get equal space in Olympia for RATIONAL thinking people.
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Last Mohican Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:37:36pm |
re: #104 faraway
Journalism is Dead. Who is the widow to accept the award?
But in every ending, there is a beginning. And now we have a shiny new Ministry of Truth. Mazeltov.
This is gonna take one more step into the obscenely uncool when the Big 0 decides to reward his fawning flunkies by "bailing out" the entire MSM and putting it under federal government ownership.
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:37:48pm |
re: #96 Guanxi88
You think the newly "out" won't handle rejection well, huh?
No they won't and I also predict that the moment they are allowed to officially be out, some of them will be very flamboyant and right or wrong, will pay the consequences.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:37:55pm |
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subsailor68 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:38:00pm |
re: #120 Jetpilot1101
O-ass-hat has never served in a military unit and doesn't have the first f---ing clue about morale or unit cohesion. The jacktard thinks that a piece of paper is going to fix everything for the poor oppressed gays in the military. I've got a newsflash for you soon-to-be-commander-in-chief, the military is NOT a social organization; it is designed to kill people and break things. Trying out "progressive" social experiments to appease your wacko base in the military will only weaken it and make you look like a imbecile. Good luck with your agenda, you are going to need it.
As you can see from my nic, it's probably no surprise to learn that I agree with you completely.
:-)
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:38:08pm |
re: #106 MandyManners
Boy George is GAY? I missed the memo completely.
The makeup never gave you a tip?
;-P
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:38:31pm |
You know guys, at the risk of being a wet blanket, there are probably good, respected Lizards who are gay.
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:38:34pm |
re: #124 MandyManners
Didja' see his photograph? He's not aged gracefully at all.
I refuse to see how badly the drugs and drink have done him in. Culture Club was a bit of a guilty pleasure, and I rather enjoyed him back in the day.
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Abu Kuffar Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:38:39pm |
MSM deserves the lifetime achievement award about as much as Jimmy IMHO
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:38:41pm |
re: #67 ploome hineni
I think we need a catgory for a runner up
the Winner will get the FISKIE
and the runnerup can have the TURD award........let me nominate as the TURD of the year
BARNEY FRANK/
Barnie actually likes dressing up as a Bridesmaid.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:38:45pm |
re: #89 buzzsawmonkey
And here's....Boy George singing, "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me?"
And here he is singing about BHO:
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maddogg Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:12pm |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know guys, at the risk of being a wet blanket, there are probably good, respected Lizards who are gay.
So, who said anything against Gays?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:12pm |
re: #128 Jetpilot1101
No they won't and I also predict that the moment they are allowed to officially be out, some of them will be very flamboyant and right or wrong, will pay the consequences.
I'd like to be a fly on the wall of some promotion boards?
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:24pm |
re: #119 maddogg
I hope this doesn't embarrass you, but I hear Barny Frank is a little light in the loafers too. :)
What's next? A rumor that Melissa Ethridge is, too?
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CIA Reject Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:26pm |
MSM walked away with it eh? I'm not surprised considering that it was like entering a heavy duty forklift in a human weight lifting contest...
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J.D. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:30pm |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
True, but if they pulled a stunt like Boy George did, they would be asking for ridicule.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:32pm |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know guys, at the risk of being a wet blanket, there are probably good, respected Lizards who are gay.
Boy George and Fwank are well past "gay" and into self-parodies.
Tough to be a public person these days. Ask George W. Bush.
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:39pm |
Speaking of LOSERS:
Has anyone already mentioned the Washington Post ran a half page advertisement for AL JAZEERA yesterday on p. A-10, right under the picture of veterans Gen. Shinseki shaking Bob Dole's hand?
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:46pm |
re: #130 subsailor68
As you can see from my nic, it's probably no surprise to learn that I agree with you completely.
:-)
It's going to be long four years. I guess I should buy some soap on a rope.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:53pm |
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:39:56pm |
In honor of the MSM victory, here's two songs in their honor:
Malignant narcissism:
Video killed the radio star:
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:40:12pm |
re: #119 maddogg
I hope this doesn't embarrass you, but I hear Barny Frank is a little light in the loafers too. :)
What, are you saying he's:
A friend of Dorothy?
A left-footer?
A Theban?
Practitioner of the vice-anglais?
Practitioner of the dark vice of the ancient Greeks?
An up-hill skier?
A swish?
A Nancy?
A Nance?
A Pink Triangle?
Lavender Mobster?
Belle of the Bath-house?
Third Sexer?
Confirmed bachelor?
Theater Major?
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Racer X Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:40:25pm |
Suppose I accidentally got my shit together
Would I get a medal?
Or a pat on the back and a little feather
I could stick in my cap or pin it to my shirt
Go out in the yard and poke it in the dirt
Or leave it in the woods where it couldn't be found
If it fell over, would it make a sound?
And if it did, would it be the sound that you like?
Or should I do it over until I get it right?
You say everything I know is wrong
So do me a favor, and play along
As the rusty gears turn
Don't be alarmed if you smell something burning upstairs
It's a little BB rolling around in a box car
See us together
Maybe it wouldn't be hard to explain
If I only had a brain
(chorus)
Somewhere on a higher mental plain
{Somewhere On A Higher mental plain}
I might learn to come in from the rain
{I might learn to come in from the rain}
If I had a clue would I still be here with you?
{If I had a clue would I still be here with you?}
Gee whiz, if I only had a brain
{Gee Whiz, If I only had a brain}
Who's that?
Oh, my little friend cupid
Wearing a shirt that says I'm with stupid
Always nearby wherever I go
He's looking out for me, don't you know
Mr. excitement, never in a rut
Johnny on the spot with an arrow in the butt
Ouch! I guess your love is true
Now, if I could only get a clue
(chorus)
Had A Brain
Had a brain
had a brain
had a brain
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:40:32pm |
re: #114 ichef
I'm all for categorizing the Fiskies!
The TURD for Barney for the Obfuscation of Responsibility
Didja have to use BF and Obfuscation in the same post?
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:40:32pm |
re: #126 jcm
Can I revote?
Envirowackoism gone wild.
Seems my local State Rep. has a fabulous idea.
//REQUIRE retail stores that sell small power equipment to give equal floor space to battery and electrical equipment, and to provide signs that explain the benefits of them.
*gah* can we get equal space in Olympia for RATIONAL thinking people.
FORCING a business to offer goods?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:40:38pm |
re: #121 Nevergiveup
that is a viscous rumor! Just like the one about Rosie being a fat lesbo?
"Viscous?" Yek!
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JammieWearingFool Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:40:39pm |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know guys, at the risk of being a wet blanket, there are probably good, respected Lizards who are gay.
Being a gay lizard doesn't necessarily preclude having a sense of humor.
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Pyrocles Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:40:40pm |
"will only weaken it" - Bingo. I think that's Chairman Zero's ultimate goal for the military.
re: #120 Jetpilot1101
O-ass-hat has never served in a military unit and doesn't have the first f---ing clue about morale or unit cohesion. The jacktard thinks that a piece of paper is going to fix everything for the poor oppressed gays in the military. I've got a newsflash for you soon-to-be-commander-in-chief, the military is NOT a social organization; it is designed to kill people and break things. Trying out "progressive" social experiments to appease your wacko base in the military will only weaken it and make you look like a imbecile. Good luck with your agenda, you are going to need it.
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:41:03pm |
re: #128 Jetpilot1101
No they won't and I also predict that the moment they are allowed to officially be out, some of them will be very flamboyant and right or wrong, will pay the consequences.
Absolutely.
I have a feeling that there may be one or two guys in, say, the 82nd, or Marines, who may not be all that thrilled to learn who their shower-mates have been fantasizing about...
This is a really stupid idea.
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Abu Kuffar Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:41:07pm |
Ole Pukecannon was quite active giving bad name to conservatives and thus had my vote.
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Desert Storm Vet I Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:41:09pm |
#127: So much for Freedom of the Press (like it really existed as of late). Guess it'll be the official mouthpiece of the Obamabots.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:41:13pm |
re: #139 MandyManners
What's next? A rumor that Melissa Ethridge is, too?
My wife drug me to one of her concerts, once.
She put on a fantastic show, and her band was excellent, IMO.
However, I was the only guy in the audience, and some of the big grrrls were lookin' at me funny.
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Last Mohican Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:41:29pm |
re: #120 Jetpilot1101
O-ass-hat has never served in a military unit and doesn't have the first f---ing clue about morale or unit cohesion.
Hey, the Messiah considered joining the military. And he totally woulda, too, except that there wasn't a war right then, so he figured his glorious messianic attention was needed elsewhere:
Obama disclosed that he had once considered serving in the military.“You know, I actually did,” Obama said. “I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school. And I was growing up in Hawaii. And I have friends whose parents were in the military. There are a lot of Army, military bases there.
“And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren't engaged in an active military conflict at that point. And so, it's not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:41:40pm |
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:41:41pm |
re: #150 MandyManners
FORCING a business to offer goods?
Well, that don't have to sell that gas chain saw.....
///////
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midwestgak Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:41:47pm |
re: #120 Jetpilot1101
O-ass-hat has never served in a military unit and doesn't have the first f---ing clue about morale or unit cohesion.
Think Obama will learn how to salute properly? Did Clinton ever get it right?
OT - Someone should tell Charles that "Obama" is a misspelling in check spelling thingy.
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ckb Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:42:10pm |
Can C&F do a runner-up 'toon for Barney Frank? Please oh please please pretty please!
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:42:24pm |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know guys, at the risk of being a wet blanket, there are probably good, respected Lizards who are gay.
Throbert McGee comes to mind.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:42:24pm |
re: #133 Dianna
I refuse to see how badly the drugs and drink have done him in. Culture Club was a bit of a guilty pleasure, and I rather enjoyed him back in the day.
You're missing a curious tattoo on his head. (The one on his shoulders.)
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LGoPs Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:42:40pm |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know guys, at the risk of being a wet blanket, there are probably good, respected Lizards who are gay.
I absolutely agree but respectfully disagree that this should be one of our first priorities.
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:42:41pm |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know guys, at the risk of being a wet blanket, there are probably good, respected Lizards who are gay.
Let me be perfectly clear, I have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING against gay people! I do have something against a president who has NEVER served in the military in any way, shape or form, trying out some social agenda in an organization that is not designed to for that purpose. My problem is not with gay people, my problem is with Obama.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:43:06pm |
re: #152 JammieWearingFool
Being a gay lizard doesn't necessarily preclude having a sense of humor.
Good!
"Yeah, and I can't believe Liberace was gay. I mean, women loved him! I didn't see that one coming."
-Austin Powers:
| 168 |
so.cal.swede Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:43:13pm |
Well deserved victory (?) by the Mass Media.
Never before have to many dimwits and malicious people done so much damage to a country.
| 169 |
Jonas Parker Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:43:18pm |
And poor Cynthia McKinney only finished third. It's a racist plot! Recount! New Poll!
| 170 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:43:28pm |
| 171 |
CIA Reject Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:43:30pm |
re: #147 Guanxi88
What, are you saying he's:
A friend of Dorothy?
A left-footer?
A Theban?
Practitioner of the vice-anglais?
Practitioner of the dark vice of the ancient Greeks?
An up-hill skier?
A swish?
A Nancy?
A Nance?
A Pink Triangle?
Lavender Mobster?
Belle of the Bath-house?
Third Sexer?
Confirmed bachelor?
Theater Major?
A Poofter
| 172 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:43:38pm |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know guys, at the risk of being a wet blanket, there are probably good, respected Lizards who are gay.
Look, there's homosexual, and then there's gay, and then there's lavender trash. Many ancient Greeks were homosexuals, Noel Coward and many others were gay, and Boy George and Barney Frank are lavender trash.
| 173 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:44:09pm |
re: #169 Jonas Parker
And poor Cynthia McKinney only finished third. It's a racist plot! Recount! New Poll!
Joos did her in!
| 174 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:44:13pm |
re: #143 alegrias
Speaking of LOSERS:
Has anyone already mentioned the Washington Post ran a half page advertisement for AL JAZEERA yesterday on p. A-10, right under the picture of veterans Gen. Shinseki shaking Bob Dole's hand?
Nobody here reads the WaPo. ANd d the page number is interesting, as I think an A-10 would be very useful when applied to Al Jazeeran
| 175 |
JHW Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:44:17pm |
re: #126 jcm
What the? I presume this is meant to replace small gasoline engines with battery powered or electrical ones? Somehow, I can't quite imagine myself going down a mountain slope cutting timber with a 2,000 ft. long extension cord on my chainsaw.
| 176 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:44:23pm |
re: #157 OldLineTexan
My wife drug me to one of her concerts, once.
She put on a fantastic show, and her band was excellent, IMO.
However, I was the only guy in the audience, and some of the big grrrls were lookin' at me funny.
Lotsa' flannel shirts?
| 177 |
ichef Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:44:35pm |
re: #149 eschew_obfuscation
Sorry, no reflection upon you Eschew :)
| 178 |
lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:44:52pm |
re: #166 Jetpilot1101
Let me be perfectly clear, I have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING against gay people! I do have something against a president who has NEVER served in the military in any way, shape or form, trying out some social agenda in an organization that is not designed to for that purpose. My problem is not with gay people, my problem is with Obama.
Ditto.
| 179 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:45:06pm |
re: #160 jcm
Well, that don't have to sell that gas chain saw.....
///////
Idiot needs a remedial lesson in Econ. 101 and the Law of Supply and Demand.
| 180 |
CIA Reject Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:45:11pm |
re: #155 Abu Kuffar
Ole Pukecannon was quite active giving bad name to conservatives and thus had my vote.
Me too - doubly so in fact because he did the same for Catholics.
| 181 |
Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:45:14pm |
re: #164 MandyManners
You're missing a curious tattoo on his head. (The one on his shoulders.)
I still won't look! I won't look at Steve Earle's tatoos, either, even when I'm right under him on stage.
| 182 |
Jonas Parker Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:45:41pm |
| 183 |
Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:45:51pm |
| 184 |
eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:46:09pm |
| 185 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:46:22pm |
| 186 |
alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:46:23pm |
More Media Losers--guess who agrees the shoe thrower "restored the honor of the Iraqi people"...yes, his media employers!
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
| 187 |
debutaunt Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:46:26pm |
re: #22 Abu Boo Boo
He was going to win, but Dick Cheney and the Elders of the Discovery Institute used their world dominating powers to alter the outcome.
Linky?
| 188 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:46:33pm |
re: #181 Dianna
I still won't look! I won't look at Steve Earle's tatoos, either, even when I'm right under him on stage.
I'll say no more but, you walked right into that one.
| 189 |
jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:47:03pm |
On behalf of Seattle, I would like to thank all the Lizards who so generously have donated to this boondoggle. You money won't be wasted, it will be flushed with great relish and fanfare down the same rat hole the first $20 Billion went down.
Thank you all!
U.S. to finance 40 percent of light rail extension costs
Federal Transit Administration acting chief Sherry Little said Thursday her agency will finance $813 million of the $1.9 billion project.
Full disclosure:
I've now voted against this 4 times.
| 190 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:47:05pm |
re: #179 MandyManners
Idiot needs a remedial lesson in Econ. 101 and the Law of Supply and Demand.
Just think of how well this will work with the car company bailouts.
A recent Dave Barry piece said that the auto company presidents needed a bailout or they'd have to stop making cars that no one wanted to buy.
| 191 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:47:09pm |
re: #176 MandyManners
Lotsa' flannel shirts?
Trucker wallets, etc., and an Amazon about seven feet tall dressed in violet gauze who stuck her tongue all the way down a leather-clad short girl's throat to her toes. In front of me in the turnstile. While I waited. Not wishing to have my ass handed to me, I found several defects in the tile floor.
| 192 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:47:20pm |
re: #188 MandyManners
I'll say no more but, you walked right into that one.
You get a ding for class.
| 193 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:47:33pm |
re: #169 Jonas Parker
And poor Cynthia McKinney only finished third. It's a racist plot! Recount! New Poll!
She was loony during the campaign, but so was Nader, Ron Paul, Obama, Kucinich and a host of others.
Her recent run on the USS Minnow was impressive, but I scored that against 2009, not 2008.
She did not get my vote.
| 194 |
Ojoe Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:47:36pm |
The whole MSM might as well be Amy Goodman.
*Massive, thick loogie*
| 196 |
Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:47:48pm |
re: #188 MandyManners
I'll say no more but, you walked right into that one.
Ack!
Oh, well. It makes up for the one you walked into a couple weeks ago.
Which, I may add, I favorited.
| 197 |
Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:47:56pm |
re: #185 Guanxi88
With two letter O's, for double evil and dual-loyalty.
nah, I was refering to McKinney's father, who told reporters that the Jews were responsible for her election defeat and then went on to spell it in case the reporters were morons. J-E-W-S.
| 198 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:48:05pm |
| 199 |
OldLineTexan Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:48:09pm |
re: #188 MandyManners
I'll say no more but, you walked right into that one.
Yeah, I had to walk away quickly...
| 200 |
Miss Trixie Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:48:21pm |
re: #118 Dustyvet
That pun was just ducky
Thanks! At least I didn't lay a great big goose egg like Dark Falcon's #116. :D I just wing it and make 'em up on the fly. It's such a natural talent I give meself goosebumps!
| 201 |
MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:48:31pm |
re: #175 JHW
What the? I presume this is meant to replace small gasoline engines with battery powered or electrical ones? Somehow, I can't quite imagine myself going down a mountain slope cutting timber with a 2,000 ft. long extension cord on my chainsaw.
Missing your sense of adventure?
| 202 |
davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:48:36pm |
re: #187 debutaunt
He was going to win, but Dick Cheney and the Elders of the Discovery Institute used their world dominating powers to alter the outcome.
Linky?
I want world dominating powers too! How high up the Zionist totem pole do I have to be to get them?
On topic...Yay! I voted with the winners...losers! I also 72nd their nomination, so yay!
/but maybe we should give out more than one Fiskie next time, because there are a lot of other deserving candidates on that list...
| 204 |
midwestgak Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:48:56pm |
| 206 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:49:10pm |
re: #197 Silhouette
nah, I was refering to McKinney's father, who told reporters that the Jews were responsible for her election defeat and then went on to spell it in case the reporters were morons. J-E-W-S.
See, he couldn't even spell it right: ya need two O's at least. (Pa said you knew you were in trouble when the guy calling ya' a Jew used more than two syllables to do it.)
| 207 |
davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:49:13pm |
re: #196 Dianna
Ack!
Oh, well. It makes up for the one you walked into a couple weeks ago.
Which, I may add, I favorited.
What did you walk into?
| 208 |
lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:49:25pm |
re: #197 Silhouette
nah, I was refering to McKinney's father, who told reporters that the Jews were responsible for her election defeat and then went on to spell it in case the reporters were morons. J-E-W-S.
He was just being helpful, so they wouldn't think he was anti-citrus beverages.
| 209 |
jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:49:31pm |
re: #175 JHW
What the? I presume this is meant to replace small gasoline engines with battery powered or electrical ones? Somehow, I can't quite imagine myself going down a mountain slope cutting timber with a 2,000 ft. long extension cord on my chainsaw.
We need to get the extension cord market wrapped up!
| 210 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:49:39pm |
re: #203 jaunte
You might get cuffed for that.
Too rich for my blood, and well out of my price-range.
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CIA Reject Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:49:40pm |
re: #194 Ojoe
The whole MSM might as well be Amy Goodman.
*Massive, thick loogie*
Now THAT is a major insult.
And one which is richly deserved IMHO.
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JHW Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:49:44pm |
re: #201 MandyManners
Heh. Sounds a bit too adventurous for me, I'd like to live for at least a few more years.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:49:49pm |
re: #190 Kosh's Shadow
Just think of how well this will work with the car company bailouts.
A recent Dave Barry piece said that the auto company presidents needed a bailout or they'd have to stop making cars that no one wanted to buy.
Is it true that a car made in Detroit is more expensive than a house in that city?
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Jonas Parker Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:50:04pm |
re: #197 Silhouette
nah, I was refering to McKinney's father, who told reporters that the Jews were responsible for her election defeat and then went on to spell it in case the reporters were morons. J-E-W-S.
In case the reporters were morons? Sounds like a heavy probability to me...
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:50:15pm |
re: #207 davinvalkri
Check out what Mandy quoted.
My adoration of Steve Earle does not extend as far as what I typed indicated.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:50:22pm |
re: #191 OldLineTexan
Trucker wallets, etc., and an Amazon about seven feet tall dressed in violet gauze who stuck her tongue all the way down a leather-clad short girl's throat to her toes. In front of me in the turnstile. While I waited. Not wishing to have my ass handed to me, I found several defects in the tile floor.
ROFLMAO!
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:50:37pm |
re: #174 Kosh's Shadow
Nobody here reads the WaPo. ANd d the page number is interesting, as I think an A-10 would be very useful when applied to Al Jazeeran
* * *
I don't subscribe nor buy the WaPo--found it crumpled under my Metro seat and looked at it before "recycling" it in the trash.
The half page WaPo advertisement for AL JAZEERA English grossed me out big time. WaPo's looking for love in all the wrong places and will do anything for a buck or oil-for-food chit.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:50:55pm |
re: #213 MandyManners
A house sold in Detroit a few months ago for $1.00. (IMO, they overpaid)
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:50:57pm |
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:51:06pm |
re: #194 Ojoe
The whole MSM might as well be Amy Goodman.
*Massive, thick loogie*
Cripes! Do you have to mention her? Just thinking about the fact that she even exists makes me see red and go cross-eyed in rage.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:51:23pm |
re: #196 Dianna
Ack!
Oh, well. It makes up for the one you walked into a couple weeks ago.
Which, I may add, I favorited.
*blush*
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:51:34pm |
re: #175 JHW
What the? I presume this is meant to replace small gasoline engines with battery powered or electrical ones? Somehow, I can't quite imagine myself going down a mountain slope cutting timber with a 2,000 ft. long extension cord on my chainsaw.
Yeah, and when you accidentally cut the cord, that climb back up the hill to reset the breaker and get the wire strippers and electrical tape is a bitch.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:51:45pm |
re: #189 jcm
Mass Transit is ok. Without knowing any of the details on the this particular project, it doesn't seem that high on the list of ridiculus spending items. Ethonol subsidies and pop-culture museums are far worse.
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:51:46pm |
re: #215 Dianna
"Right under him on stage..."... ... ... ... ?!
Was she implying you were having sex on stage with whoever Steve Earle is?
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:51:46pm |
re: #200 Miss Trixie
Thanks! At least I didn't lay a great big goose egg like Dark Falcon's #116. :D I just wing it and make 'em up on the fly. It's such a natural talent I give meself goosebumps!
Now that's what I call puffin.
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:51:51pm |
re: #220 MandyManners
Well, I didn't hafta' mention it at all, ya' know.
Yes, you did!
I typed it. I fear that I own it.
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Ojoe Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:52:01pm |
re: #221 Guanxi88
Lots of people where I live listen to her every day.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:52:05pm |
re: #220 MandyManners
Well, I didn't hafta' mention it at all, ya' know.
No, you did. Better you should handle it than one of these crude types I see loafing around on the outskirts.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:52:28pm |
"This is the first time in my adult life I have been proud of the MSM."
/
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:52:45pm |
re: #204 midwestgak
Full disclosure:
I've now voted against this 4 times.Ahhh. Chicago style.
It was on the ballot the first time. It Failed. (no vote 1)
They Gerrymandered the precincts and put it up again. It passed. (no vote 2)
They went over budget, over schedule, and half the original project voted on. The put up additional fund for a vote. It Failed. (no vote 3)
They put up the additional funding again. It Passed. (no vote 4)
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the_flying_pig Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:52:59pm |
Congratulations to MSM! I hope you MSM guys get a nice 1 week paradise vacation in Gaza Strip, at this fabulous Hotel Hamas and free pass to the Tour of Tunnels!
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:53:03pm |
I wonder what an acceptable "alternative" to a gas-powered generator would be?
A case of batteries? Some candles, maybe?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:53:14pm |
re: #228 Ojoe
Lots of people where I live listen to her every day.
Those aren't people. They're pods. You saw Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:53:19pm |
re: #202 davinvalkri
I want world dominating powers too! How high up the Zionist totem pole do I have to be to get them?
On topic...Yay! I voted with the winners...losers! I also 72nd their nomination, so yay!
/but maybe we should give out more than one Fiskie next time, because there are a lot of other deserving candidates on that list...
You unlock your world dominating powers when you get to 40,000 karma points...
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:53:24pm |
It would be interesting to have a contest for so-called conservatives who've sold out this year. Mona Charen would be my pick.
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Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:53:29pm |
re: #206 Guanxi88
(Pa said you knew you were in trouble when the guy calling ya' a Jew used more than two syllables to do it.)
LOL!
But that might get me in trouble unfairly. I am QUITE southern, and all my words have multiple syllables.
My friend Jill in college said she never realized her name had three syllables until she met me. Juh'ILLuhl.
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Last Mohican Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:53:47pm |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know guys, at the risk of being a wet blanket, there are probably good, respected Lizards who are gay.
And, perhaps, some of them are veterans or still on active duty in the military. I thank them from the bottom of my heart for their service, and also acknowledge the extra challenges that some of them might have had to endure because of their sexual orientation.
I would also add that Obama, a gutless professional demagogue who has made a living dividing people rather than bringing them together, and who more importantly has never been gay or served in the military, should not be making major changes in how the military treats homosexuality. That's just my opinion. If someone wants to revisit the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, that's great. It should be a high-level military officer. Maybe a gay one. Obama should stay the hell out of this.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:53:54pm |
re: #237 MandyManners
It would be interesting to have a contest for so-called conservatives who've sold out this year.
Mona CharenPeggy Noonan would be my pick.
Sorry. Had a mental aberation.
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:54:03pm |
OT: In other news, California is in serious trouble and won't be sending folks a tax refund right away because they are out of cash
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Rancher Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:54:14pm |
Man, that sucks. Barney Franks helped engineer the biggest financial crises in the history of the United States. As a result government spending as a percentage of GDP is also at historic levels, surpassing even WWII, with no end in sight. Using this crises the left is expanding government control in all aspects of the economy. To top it off Barney was sleeping with an executive of an agency he was supposed to regulate. How could you people not vote for Barney Franks?
/Never thought I would ask that question here!
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JHW Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:54:17pm |
re: #223 eschew_obfuscation
It'd be quite interesting in all this dry weather we have on Washington's Olympic Rain Forest. I may need to communicate with that legislator.
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Ojoe Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:54:19pm |
re: #235 Guanxi88
Certainly her listeners do not generally think for themselves. Pods, maybe they are.
BBL
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Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:54:27pm |
re: #214 Jonas Parker
In case the reporters were morons? Sounds like a heavy probability to me...
Yeah, it was his only redeeming quality.
Mother always said to find something nice to say about everyone.
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:54:37pm |
re: #236 eschew_obfuscation
You unlock your world dominating powers when you get to 40,000 karma points...
Hang on! Not even Mandy has 40,000 karma! Charles, do you have world dominating powers? And can I try them for a day, pleeeease!?
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:54:58pm |
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:55:32pm |
re: #224 DeafDog
Mass Transit is ok. Without knowing any of the details on the this particular project, it doesn't seem that high on the list of ridiculus spending items. Ethonol subsidies and pop-culture museums are far worse.
Mass transit is fine.
Making me, in Colorado Springs, pay for part of a mass transit system in Seattle is not.
If the people who are actually going to use it don't want to pay for it, it shouldn't be built.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:55:42pm |
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:55:54pm |
re: #237 MandyManners
It would be interesting to have a contest for so-called conservatives who've sold out this year. Mona Charen would be my pick.
* * *
How about President REagan's chief of staff, Ken Duberstein, endorsing Obama?
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:55:59pm |
re: #224 DeafDog
Mass Transit is ok. Without knowing any of the details on the this particular project, it doesn't seem that high on the list of ridiculus spending items. Ethonol subsidies and pop-culture museums are far worse.
It's a long sordid tale in Seattle but light rail is insanity. So far it's $15 billion over budget, 10 years late, and half of what the voters voted for.
With financing included the last funding package will be $120 Billion. For a project that will remove less than 1% of the vehicles from the road.
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Kenneth Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:56:08pm |
re: #109 lobo91
I don't mean to sound alarmist, but George Michael might be gay too.
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:56:17pm |
re: #237 MandyManners
It would be interesting to have a contest for so-called conservatives who've sold out this year. Mona Charen would be my pick.
Mona?!
When?
Do you mean Peggy Noonan?
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subsailor68 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:56:45pm |
re: #241 Jetpilot1101
OT: In other news, California is in serious trouble and won't be sending folks a tax refund right away because they are out of cash
Just a technical question. According to the article:
With a $41.6 billion shortfall over the next year-and-a-half, the state is on the brink of issuing IOUs.
The question is, do ya think California would be okay if the taxpayers submitted an IOU with their returns?
(Didn't think so.)
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:56:47pm |
re: #238 Silhouette
LOL!
But that might get me in trouble unfairly. I am QUITE southern, and all my words have multiple syllables.
My friend Jill in college said she never realized her name had three syllables until she met me. Juh'ILLuhl.
Pa was a Hebrew Hillbilly, a Jewbilly, if you will. He said we'd been around Scots-Irish long enough to pick up all their vices, many of their virtues and none of their religion. Quite a culture shock when I met tribesmen from Long Island. Pretty freakin' effete, I gotta say.
It's like imagining that say, Joshua or Samson should meet a Kadima member today. There's some superficial resemblance, but that's about all.
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:56:51pm |
re: #239 Last Mohican
Well said. Obama needs to get his grubby little paws off this issue. At the very least, if he wants to revisit it, please get a panel together of some high ranking military officers and maybe a few retired ones and hash out the pros and cons. Even Clinton wasn't this stupid. Obama makes an idiot look like Einstein.
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CIA Reject Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:56:58pm |
re: #218 Ojoe
LOL !
A.G. is one of the most detestable people on earth. I think a steel cage death match between her and Randy Rhodes would be a major money maker on pay-per-view.
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:56:58pm |
re: #250 alegrias
* * *
How about President REagan's chief of staff, Ken Duberstein, endorsing Obama?
That's another one.
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maddogg Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:57:08pm |
re: #234 lobo91
I wonder what an acceptable "alternative" to a gas-powered generator would be?
A case of batteries? Some candles, maybe?
A bowl of grease rendered from Mikey Moore and a flax wick.
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Miss Trixie Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:57:20pm |
re: #226 Spare O'Lake
Now that's what I call puffin.
♪ ding! ♪ Good one!
I'm loopy with fatigue after a really tough week and it's finally time to get home before I
*thump*
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MandyManners Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:57:33pm |
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:57:39pm |
re: #246 davinvalkri
Hang on! Not even Mandy has 40,000 karma! Charles, do you have world dominating powers? And can I try them for a day, pleeeease!?
Even Mandy's Clue Bat isn't enough for world domination .... but she uses it to good effect around these parts.
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:57:42pm |
re: #241 Jetpilot1101
OT: In other news, California is in serious trouble and won't be sending folks a tax refund right away because they are out of cash
* * *
Don't Cry For Me, California.
Go Tell it to Hugo Chavez.
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Outrider Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:57:51pm |
re: #181 Dianna
I still won't look! I won't look at Steve Earle's tatoos, either, even when I'm right under him on stage.
what are you looking at when you are under Steve Earle on stage? I didn't know you were in the entertainment business.
| 265 |
joncelli Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:57:58pm |
re: #15 robdouth
I'm an up quark guy myself, but to each his own.
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Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:58:32pm |
re: #248 lobo91
If the people who are actually going to use it don't want to pay for it, it shouldn't be built.
That's just crazy capitalism talk. Letting the free market decide if a venture succeeds! As if!
We must forcibly take funds from the uneducated morons we rule to pay for the things they should have been choosing all along, had they been enlightened like us.
/
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wiffersnapper Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:58:42pm |
Let's hope for a repeat championship next year, MSM!
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:58:43pm |
re: #261 MandyManners
Saw it and updinged to make up for wasting your time. Unfortunately, I'd already posted!
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:58:48pm |
Just finished watching tropic thunder..Best comedy I've seen in a long time.
Also I didn't know robert downey jr. played the black actor when he took his makeup off i almost peed my pants laughing.... So many funny lines in the movie..
But then again..haven't been too many funny movies lately.
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:58:49pm |
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LeePro Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:58:59pm |
re: #237 MandyManners
It would be interesting to have a contest for so-called conservatives who've sold out this year. Mona Charen would be my pick.
Agree mostly... but the pile (and I DO mean "pile") is getting so huge, it's really getting so-o-o-o-o-o hard to pick just one...
/
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:59:02pm |
re: #240 MandyManners
Sorry. Had a mental aberation.
It's a toss up to me....
Powell for his actions before the election.
McCain for his actions after the election.
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Ojoe Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:59:07pm |
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:59:12pm |
re: #263 alegrias
* * *
Don't Cry For Me, California.
Go Tell it to Hugo Chavez.
I'm guessing the illegal immigrant population of that state will be heading elsewhere seeing as how they can no longer squeeze any more blood out of that stone.
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Dad O' Blondes Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:59:27pm |
The MSM, hands down, deserves this award.
In a year of disgraceful mis-reporting, they completely missed the ONE STORY which, properly reported, would have lifted social mood and contributed significantly to American confidence as the stock market crashed and debt cram downs reigned.
And that story?
The American VICTORY in Iraq!
| 276 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:59:30pm |
re: #239 Last Mohican
Oh, no disagreement with your assertion. I thought things were just getting a little insulting, but I was "straightened" out. (bah dum dum)
| 277 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:59:32pm |
re: #252 Kenneth
I don't mean to sound alarmist, but George Michael might be gay too.
Get outta town!
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Eowyn2 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:59:43pm |
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LGoPs Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:00:08pm |
re: #242 Rancher
Man, that sucks. Barney Franks helped engineer the biggest financial crises in the history of the United States. As a result government spending as a percentage of GDP is also at historic levels, surpassing even WWII, with no end in sight. Using this crises the left is expanding government control in all aspects of the economy. To top it off Barney was sleeping with an executive of an agency he was supposed to regulate. How could you people not vote for Barney Franks?
/Never thought I would ask that question here!
I've been scratching my head wondering how anyone with a sliver of integrity could still occupy their seat after engineering such a debacle...and then it struck me, lamebrain that I am.....these fuckers want it this way. This is the perfect excuse to take a short cut to the socialism they've always wanted.
They'll impose socialism and the goddammed masses will cheer them on.......
| 280 |
maddogg Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:00:10pm |
re: #269 HoosierHoops
Just finished watching tropic thunder..Best comedy I've seen in a long time.
Also I didn't know robert downey jr. played the black actor when he took his makeup off i almost peed my pants laughing.... So many funny lines in the movie..
But then again..haven't been too many funny movies lately.
The Day After Tomorrow had a lot of good laughs...
| 281 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:00:11pm |
I can see the NYT headlines now: "Legitimate Media's Influence Recognized and Rewarded by Right-Wing Bloggers."
| 282 |
jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:00:13pm |
re: #246 davinvalkri
Hang on! Not even Mandy has 40,000 karma! Charles, do you have world dominating powers? And can I try them for a day, pleeeease!?
Karma: 49,826
Sharmuta
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:01:10pm |
re: #248 lobo91
Mass transit is fine.
Making me, in Colorado Springs, pay for part of a mass transit system in Seattle is not.
If the people who are actually going to use it don't want to pay for it, it shouldn't be built.
* * * *
While I understand your sentiment, for example, here in your Nation's Capital, milliions of non-local Americans (and tourists) use our "local" Metro system when they visit or move here.
Transportation systems are public utilities, like airports, that serve more than just the locals. In my opinion.
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:01:14pm |
re: #279 LGoPs
I've been scratching my head wondering how anyone with a sliver of integrity could still occupy their seat after engineering such a debacle...and then it struck me, lamebrain that I am.....these fuckers want it this way. This is the perfect excuse to take a short cut to the socialism they've always wanted.
They'll impose socialism and the goddammed masses will cheer them on.......
DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:01:18pm |
re: #277 Spare O'Lake
Get outta town!
Amidst all this talk of who's gay and who isn't, anyone fans of any asexual entertainers? Or know any asexual entertainers?
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:01:32pm |
re: #239 Last Mohican
And, perhaps, some of them are veterans or still on active duty in the military. I thank them from the bottom of my heart for their service, and also acknowledge the extra challenges that some of them might have had to endure because of their sexual orientation.
I would also add that Obama, a gutless professional demagogue who has made a living dividing people rather than bringing them together, and who more importantly has never been gay or served in the military, should not be making major changes in how the military treats homosexuality. That's just my opinion. If someone wants to revisit the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, that's great. It should be a high-level military officer. Maybe a gay one. Obama should stay the hell out of this.
IMHO. I wish the government would stay out of legislating ALL morality and removed all incentives in the tax system for those who are 'married' versus those who are 'not'. Leave marriage to the churches as it was originally. Leave orientation between the two...3..4...or whatever are engaging in it. It's a non-government issue.
Why the heck should I have to register with the state to say I am living with someone?
| 287 |
Ojoe Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:01:44pm |
re: #279 LGoPs
I now see the Gov't as thieves, stealing from honest folks, and giving it to criminals.
Really BBL now.
| 288 |
Eowyn2 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:01:59pm |
1 winner and hundreds of whiners (the losers and those who were not named - how would you like to be so inconsequential that you dont even make the losers list?)
| 289 |
albusteve Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:04pm |
re: #241 Jetpilot1101
OT: In other news, California is in serious trouble and won't be sending folks a tax refund right away because they are out of cash
check out G wills column about CA at Townhall...astounding rape of their state constitution
| 290 |
Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:06pm |
re: #264 Outrider
what are you looking at when you are under Steve Earle on stage? I didn't know you were in the entertainment business.
Sigh.
I'm gonna keep paying for this, aren't I?
Until I met my Male, I never missed a Steve Earle show I could get to. Now, I can't take my Male, so I don't get to see him any more.
I used to arrive as early as I could at the Fillmore, so I could get a spot right by the stage, preferably at Steve Earle's feet. Yes, I would get one heck of a crick in my neck; yes, I would walk out with my ears ringing; yes, it was bad for me in general (when I was younger, a surprising number of men would buy me beers and scotch).
But I loved it.
I miss Steve Earle shows.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:09pm |
re: #280 maddogg
The Day After Tomorrow had a lot of good laughs...
Are you sure you aren't thinking of Hannibal, or maybe you mean that romantic comedy film set in Europe. What was it called? Hostel, I think it was.
| 292 |
Jonas Parker Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:16pm |
re: #267 wiffersnapper
Let's hope for a repeat championship next year, MSM!
Could we have "playoffs" on a quarterly basis? Then the top two (or bottom two depending on your perspective) play the "Barf Bowl"... err... "Barf Poll" at the first of the year.
Just trying to give Cynthia McKinney a better chance... heh, heh, heh...
| 293 |
jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:16pm |
re: #285 davinvalkri
Amidst all this talk of who's gay and who isn't, anyone fans of any asexual entertainers? Or know any asexual entertainers?
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Ben Hur Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:16pm |
Questions Still Remain.
/MSM Sword.
They Always Blame the Media.
/MSM Shield.
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LeePro Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:21pm |
re: #271 LeePro
re: #237 MandyMannersIt would be interesting to have a contest for so-called conservatives who've sold out this year. Mona Charen would be my pick.
Agree mostly... but the pile (and I DO mean "pile") is getting so huge, it's really getting so-o-o-o-o-o hard to pick just one...
/
re: #240 MandyManners
It would be interesting to have a contest for so-called conservatives who've sold out this year.Mona CharenPeggy Noonan would be my pick.Sorry. Had a mental aberation.
Same comment.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:26pm |
re: #269 HoosierHoops
Just finished watching tropic thunder..Best comedy I've seen in a long time.
Also I didn't know robert downey jr. played the black actor when he took his makeup off i almost peed my pants laughing.... So many funny lines in the movie..
But then again..haven't been too many funny movies lately.
Gonna watch it tomorrow!
| 297 |
davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:27pm |
| 298 |
Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:34pm |
| 299 |
Confuzed Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:38pm |
One man's meat is another man's poison.
One man's blog (LGF by CJ) is the MSM's worst nightmare.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:02:47pm |
re: #285 davinvalkri
Amidst all this talk of who's gay and who isn't, anyone fans of any asexual entertainers? Or know any asexual entertainers?
Lawrence Welk?
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:03:11pm |
re: #269 HoosierHoops
Just finished watching tropic thunder..Best comedy I've seen in a long time.
Also I didn't know robert downey jr. played the black actor when he took his makeup off i almost peed my pants laughing.... So many funny lines in the movie..
But then again..haven't been too many funny movies lately.
"I'm a lead farmer M'fer."
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:03:25pm |
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Dianna Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:03:26pm |
re: #270 davinvalkri
I fear it's a case of "to each, his own."
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:03:56pm |
re: #254 subsailor68
Just a technical question. According to the article:
With a $41.6 billion shortfall over the next year-and-a-half, the state is on the brink of issuing IOUs.
The question is, do ya think California would be okay if the taxpayers submitted an IOU with their returns?
(Didn't think so.)
* * * *
Some of the Hollywood types like Spielberg invested with Madoff, so may be a little short of cash, if they haven't sent it offshore somewhere.
(What's with all the leftist tax cheats like Tim Geithner, Mr. future IRS boss?)
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:04:01pm |
re: #283 alegrias
* * * *
While I understand your sentiment, for example, here in your Nation's Capital, milliions of non-local Americans (and tourists) use our "local" Metro system when they visit or move here.Transportation systems are public utilities, like airports, that serve more than just the locals. In my opinion.
Which is why they make you pay when you ride it.
If I want to ride a train in Seattle, I'll pay for my ticket. If they can't figure out how to set the fare so that it pays for the operation, it shouldn't be built.
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:04:24pm |
re: #303 Dianna
I fear it's a case of "to each, his own."
Yeah I guess so. Truce!
/wait, there was never a war on!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:04:26pm |
re: #285 davinvalkri
Amidst all this talk of who's gay and who isn't, anyone fans of any asexual entertainers? Or know any asexual entertainers?
I don't know any amoebas that are particularly entertaining.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:04:39pm |
re: #251 jcm
It's a long sordid tale in Seattle but light rail is insanity. So far it's $15 billion over budget, 10 years late, and half of what the voters voted for.
With financing included the last funding package will be $120 Billion. For a project that will remove less than 1% of the vehicles from the road.
Similar story in Dallas....but I like to ride it when I can.
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Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:04:52pm |
re: #279 LGoPs
This is the perfect excuse to take a short cut to the socialism they've always wanted.
Capitalism must be shown to "fail."
Never mind that the mortgage crisis was socialism writ large. I had a LLL tell me it was because of "greedy" (read: capitalistic) banks, and I stopped him cold by asking him why he thought greed just came into being in 1997.
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Jonas Parker Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:04:53pm |
re: #285 davinvalkri
Amidst all this talk of who's gay and who isn't, anyone fans of any asexual entertainers? Or know any asexual entertainers?
Paris Hilton?
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LGoPs Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:05:10pm |
It saddens me deeply that the Soviets, with hundreds of divisions, couldn't accomplish what a mere handful of democrats have managed to do. Bring us to our knees and to the brink of becoming what we've been fighting against the last 60 years..........
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Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:05:22pm |
re: #308 DeafDog
Similar story in Dallas....but I like to ride it when I can.
It was so easy to build light rail in SimCity 3000. Why can't real life function like that.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:05:54pm |
re: #282 jcm
Karma: 49,826
Sharmuta
You know what would be cool? Charles gets a corporate sponsor on the front page..And lizards could cash in thier dings for Charity.. The money would go to the United Way or the Red Cross or the winner of our internet poll.
Wouldn't it be cool to donate those positive thoughts into positive results?
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Eowyn2 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:06:41pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:07:32pm |
re: #282 jcm
Karma: 49,826
Sharmuta
I know Sharmuta.
Sharmuta is a friend of mine.
No freaking way. [finger] wherever you are.
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:08:07pm |
re: #285 davinvalkri
Amidst all this talk of who's gay and who isn't, anyone fans of any asexual entertainers? Or know any asexual entertainers?
Steven Tyler is kinda wormy looking .... does that count?
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:08:08pm |
re: #301 Oh no...Sand People!
"I'm a lead farmer M'fer."
No Fair! you got me laughing out loud again..Damn that was a funny movie..
I've got funny lines to post here for the next month..
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Eowyn2 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:08:24pm |
re: #292 Jonas Parker
Could we have "playoffs" on a quarterly basis? Then the top two (or bottom two depending on your perspective) play the "Barf Bowl"... err... "Barf Poll" at the first of the year.
Just trying to give Cynthia McKinney a better chance... heh, heh, heh...
4 quarterly Position Rounds?
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:08:49pm |
re: #315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I know Sharmuta.
Sharmuta is a friend of mine.
No freaking way. [finger] wherever you are.
ROFLMAO!
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Eowyn2 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:08:57pm |
re: #316 eschew_obfuscation
Steven Tyler is kinda wormy looking .... does that count?
I like Annie Lenox
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:09:30pm |
re: #305 lobo91
Which is why they make you pay when you ride it.
If I want to ride a train in Seattle, I'll pay for my ticket. If they can't figure out how to set the fare so that it pays for the operation, it shouldn't be built.
* * *
You know darn well the tickets don't cover 100% of the cost. These systems are all subsidized because they're considered an economic multiplier in other ways. For example, everywhere in metropolitan Washington DC a Metro station was built, the neighborhood has re-developed, gentrified, and generated MORE in tax revenues.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:09:40pm |
re: #311 LGoPs
It saddens me deeply that the Soviets, with hundreds of divisions, couldn't accomplish what a mere handful of democrats have managed to do. Bring us to our knees and to the brink of becoming what we've been fighting against the last 60 years..........
It shows that we really had more unity than they wanted us to believe. Then a small subversive faction was able to situate itself into the system and orchestrate a big bamboozle. Now we are glaringly divided. I would not say split in half by any means. Just the uninformed tend to fall for MSM tripe and vote things that if they had been informed they wouldn't have accepted. Then it allowed a corrupt group to get the helm of the ship and the 'good' guys are shackled by the laws. I could be wrong, but that's my take on it.
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:09:42pm |
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Spare O'Lake Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:10:04pm |
re: #315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I know Sharmuta.
Sharmuta is a friend of mine.
No freaking way. [finger] wherever you are.
Stop sucking up to the wealthy and powerful.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:10:14pm |
re: #317 HoosierHoops
Think my favorite line was delivered by the less famous black guy, "What do you mean, you people?"
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:10:37pm |
re: #312 Jetpilot1101
It was so easy to build light rail in SimCity 3000. Why can't real life function like that.
Sadly, there are probably people in state capitols all over the country who are asking that same question, only without the sarcasm.
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:10:41pm |
re: #311 LGoPs
It saddens me deeply that the Soviets, with hundreds of divisions, couldn't accomplish what a mere handful of democrats have managed to do. Bring us to our knees and to the brink of becoming what we've been fighting against the last 60 years..........
* * *
Get a grip.
We've still got Charles Johnson.
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J.D. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:11:12pm |
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Watcher Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:11:32pm |
What's needed is something like this to go with the award.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:11:45pm |
re: #307 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I don't know any amoebas that are particularly entertaining.
What about Hypno-Germs?
[Link: www.adultswim.com...]
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:11:46pm |
re: #283 alegrias
* * * *
While I understand your sentiment, for example, here in your Nation's Capital, milliions of non-local Americans (and tourists) use our "local" Metro system when they visit or move here.Transportation systems are public utilities, like airports, that serve more than just the locals. In my opinion.
This is a tough one, but I'm going to back lobo91.
There are two arguments - (1) should the fed fund local infrastructure projects (2) assuming that they should, which ones should be funded.
You;re jumping ahead of #1 to say that light rail is a worthy cause. But it does not justify the feds doing the funding to begin with. The world would work better if the localities had to do their own funding, IMO. {If the feds are going to spend the money in any case, however, this sort of project is slightly more palatable than the new Johnny Carson museum in Nebresaka}.
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:11:48pm |
re: #313 HoosierHoops
You know what would be cool? Charles gets a corporate sponsor on the front page..And lizards could cash in thier dings for Charity.. The money would go to the United Way or the Red Cross or the winner of our internet poll.
Wouldn't it be cool to donate those positive thoughts into positive results?
* * *
Ixnay on those two charities, sorry, no respect for them.
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Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:12:08pm |
re: #312 Jetpilot1101
It was so easy to build light rail in SimCity 3000. Why can't real life function like that.
Because the program was written by people who think that because something "should" work, it will.
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Jonas Parker Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:12:43pm |
re: #328 J.D.
Gone Fishing?
The ACLU's quest to free a terrorist responsible for the USS Cole bombing.
Give the bastard "flying lessons"!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:12:49pm |
Speaking of gays & entertainment, there's a great article over at Big Hollywood by a gay man who's come out of the closet, so to speak, as a 9/11 conservative.
Now, however, I often feel as if I’ve been shoved right back into the closet by the very people who go around espousing diversity and equal rights and compassion – fellow gay people and “sophisticated” urban friends who in fact can’t tolerate an idea that’s not out of the playbook. When a Muslim leader in Nigeria – or even scarier, in Canada – declares that gay people should be killed and their heads cut off, I’m sorry, but that offends me. And it also worries me because we have all seen these believers act on their hate.
Meanwhile, the affluent gay community in LA never makes a peep about hate speech if it comes from non-caucasians with funny Arabic names. The buff, mostly-white queers just continue doing what they do best: identify as victims and pretend it’s 1977 – protesting the harmless Mormon church, which never fights back, and boycotting campy Mexican restaurants to put other tax-paying minorities (including some gays) out of work. Meanwhile, a threat much bigger than Prop. 8 is growing fast.
RTWT
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:12:50pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:12:57pm |
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:13:16pm |
re: #315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I know Sharmuta.
Sharmuta is a friend of mine.
No freaking way. [finger] wherever you are.
Try this....
(●¿● )
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Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:14:52pm |
re: #321 alegrias
Those aren't the only reasons public transportation is subsidized. It is also subsidized 1) as a form of welfare, because poor people need to get around, 2) as an environmental program, 3) politics (look what we built!). And others I'm sure I can't think of.
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:15:14pm |
re: #321 alegrias
* * *
You know darn well the tickets don't cover 100% of the cost. These systems are all subsidized because they're considered an economic multiplier in other ways. For example, everywhere in metropolitan Washington DC a Metro station was built, the neighborhood has re-developed, gentrified, and generated MORE in tax revenues.
I didn't say it shouldn't be subsidized.
I said it should be paid for by the people who will use it. If the taxpayers in Seattle want to pay for it, let them.
I'll even grant that DC is a special case.
But not Seattle. If the moonbats want a toy train, let them pay for it.
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Pyrocles Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:16:16pm |
Big Hollywood is a great site! Just found it yesterday from a link here, and have been reading constantly.
re: #337 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Speaking of gays & entertainment, there's a great article over at Big Hollywood by a gay man who's come out of the closet, so to speak, as a 9/11 conservative.
RTWT
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:16:43pm |
re: #331 Guanxi88
What about Hypno-Germs?
[Link: www.adultswim.com...]
No. But I love Hypno-Toad. As does everyone.
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Ben Hur Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:17:17pm |
I just read somewhere out there that Oprah did crack in the 80s.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:17:42pm |
re: #345 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
No. But I love Hypno-Toad. As does everyone.
Yes, and Slurm! It's Refreshingly Addictive!
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:17:45pm |
re: #345 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
No. But I love Hypno-Toad. As does everyone.
All glory to the...Oh screw that! Alton Brown! Alton Brown!
/he's not asexual, but he's better than the Futurama joke!
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:17:47pm |
re: #342 Silhouette
Those aren't the only reasons public transportation is subsidized. It is also subsidized 1) as a form of welfare, because poor people need to get around, 2) as an environmental program, 3) politics (look what we built!). And others I'm sure I can't think of.
* * * *
4. Because top rate transportation is a hallmark of civilization? Do you want to commute like Gazans or the IDF?
(say, NASA doesn't do me any personal good, why do I personally need a space program? Let's AXE NASA.)
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:18:09pm |
re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Like Jimmy Buffet, the Rolling Stones, Led Zepplin, the Who, etc....., her music pre-drug rehab is better than the music post-drug rehab, IMO.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:18:26pm |
re: #322 Oh no...Sand People!
It shows that we really had more unity than they wanted us to believe. Then a small subversive faction was able to situate itself into the system and orchestrate a big bamboozle. Now we are glaringly divided. I would not say split in half by any means. Just the uninformed tend to fall for MSM tripe and vote things that if they had been informed they wouldn't have accepted. Then it allowed a corrupt group to get the helm of the ship and the 'good' guys are shackled by the laws. I could be wrong, but that's my take on it.
I have a problem forgiving Bush, McCain and others for not taking the donks to the matt over the FM/FM situation...they dropped the ball and one thing led to another as it played right into the hands of the socialistis....
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Ben Hur Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:18:33pm |
re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I love her music, and in response to her rants have deleted ALL OF IT from my ITunes and IPod.
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jorline Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:18:39pm |
re: #340 jcm
Try this....
(●¿● )
I thought you were trying to start a boob thread with a hanger in the middle.
/
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:18:39pm |
re: #350 alegrias
* * * *
Let's AXE NASA.
They've got no secrets. You can axe them anything you want.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:18:58pm |
re: #337 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Speaking of gays & entertainment, there's a great article over at Big Hollywood by a gay man who's come out of the closet, so to speak, as a 9/11 conservative.
Now, however, I often feel as if I’ve been shoved right back into the closet by the very people who go around espousing diversity and equal rights and compassion – fellow gay people and “sophisticated” urban friends who in fact can’t tolerate an idea that’s not out of the playbook. When a Muslim leader in Nigeria – or even scarier, in Canada – declares that gay people should be killed and their heads cut off, I’m sorry, but that offends me. And it also worries me because we have all seen these believers act on their hate.
Meanwhile, the affluent gay community in LA never makes a peep about hate speech if it comes from non-caucasians with funny Arabic names. The buff, mostly-white queers just continue doing what they do best: identify as victims and pretend it’s 1977 – protesting the harmless Mormon church, which never fights back, and boycotting campy Mexican restaurants to put other tax-paying minorities (including some gays) out of work. Meanwhile, a threat much bigger than Prop. 8 is growing fast.
RTWT
Tom Hanks says I'm 'UnAmerican' it must be true.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:19:51pm |
re: #333 alegrias
* * *
Ixnay on those two charities, sorry, no respect for them.
But we could vote.. I vote for the US Military..I have a son serving..
But I would vote for the IDF this year also..
Last year at Christmas i was blogging on justoneminute... great people.. But i was crying about Jordan being in Iraq at Xmas.. Some of the bloggers there sent his a video camera, an ipod and a bunch of nice little packages and a lot of cards..
When i blogged about it thanking them i had tears in my eyes...When Jordan returned home from Iraq we rented a beachhouse in Oceanside and spent 10 days with him and 1st platoon.. A blogger ordered 10 pizza's for the Saturday night party...Americans blow my mind...we are a good people.
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:20:31pm |
re: #356 Oh no...Sand People!
Tom Hanks says I'm 'UnAmerican' it must be true.
That's odd, weren't these the people saying that conservatives were irresponsibly calling their patriotism into question? But when they do it it's legitimate? Huh?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:20:34pm |
re: #346 Ben Hur
I just read somewhere out there that Oprah did crack in the 80s.
Oprah is crack. In more ways than one.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:20:53pm |
re: #346 Ben Hur
I just read somewhere out there that Oprah did crack in the 80s.
Oprah's minge has a gun!
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albusteve Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:21:01pm |
re: #351 DeafDog
Like Jimmy Buffet, the Rolling Stones, Led Zepplin, the Who, etc....., her music pre-drug rehab is better than the music post-drug rehab, IMO.
in the Stones case I will say this...Bridges to Babylon was nearly as good as any record they ever made...not quite but close
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:22:09pm |
re: #352 albusteve
I have a problem forgiving Bush, McCain and others for not taking the donks to the matt over the FM/FM situation...they dropped the ball and one thing led to another as it played right into the hands of the socialistis....
* * *
The Republicans including Pres. Bush & John McCain, warned about & tried to legislate and mandate changes to these public-risk/private PROFIT monsters but couldn't get the VOTES or the Democrats' time of day.
Plus there was the little problem of the Iraq War Bush & McCain were trying to win for the USA while the Democrats tried to win it for the jihadists.
| 364 |
Noah's Arrrgh Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:22:46pm |
I see Barney Frank came in second. Does that mean (to quote Seinfeld) that among the class of losers, he's number one?
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:23:00pm |
re: #350 alegrias
4. Because top rate transportation is a hallmark of civilization? Do you want to commute like Gazans or the IDF?
You don't actually live in the western US, do you?
If you did, you'd realize that almost without exception, mass transit systems are UTTER FAILURES in the west (BART being about the only successful one I can think of, offhand).
Western cities are not designed to make mass transit systems practical, whether light rail, subway, bus, or any other scheme you can think up. Cities in the west were built for cars.
Mass transit works in Manhattan and DC because those cities were built for horses.
| 367 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:23:18pm |
re: #358 davinvalkri
That's odd, weren't these the people saying that conservatives were irresponsibly calling their patriotism into question? But when they do it it's legitimate? Huh?
I love the 'one way street'. What's good for me isn't good for you. (Which is an argument 'No to Prop 8'-ers could use also...but hey. The vote stands. The people spoke. Twice.)
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faraway Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:23:21pm |
re: #361 taxfreekiller
Washington D.C.
Current forecast.
Snow, Sunday, Sunday night, Monday, 60%, now if it slows down a bit.
Al Gore will not make it, he will not allow himself to be photographed in D.C. in the snow, not good for sales.
Forecast for Tuesday?
Blustery, windy, and considerable cloudiness?
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faraway Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:23:44pm |
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albusteve Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:24:24pm |
re: #363 alegrias
* * *
The Republicans including Pres. Bush & John McCain, warned about & tried to legislate and mandate changes to these public-risk/private PROFIT monsters but couldn't get the VOTES or the Democrats' time of day.Plus there was the little problem of the Iraq War Bush & McCain were trying to win for the USA while the Democrats tried to win it for the jihadists.
I know they didnt have the votes but they should have pressed the issue nontheless....somehow....I'm workin on it...
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Lizard by the Bay Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:25:00pm |
re: #362 albusteve
in the Stones case I will say this...Bridges to Babylon was nearly as good as any record they ever made...not quite but close
I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's at least as good as an "Emotional Rescue" or "Aftermath", but it's no "Exile on Main St." or "Some Girls".
I think we can all agree that it's much better than the latest flop album and that turd "Voodoo Lounge".
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:25:13pm |
re: #357 HoosierHoops
But we could vote.. I vote for the US Military..I have a son serving..
But I would vote for the IDF this year also..
Last year at Christmas i was blogging on justoneminute... great people.. But i was crying about Jordan being in Iraq at Xmas.. Some of the bloggers there sent his a video camera, an ipod and a bunch of nice little packages and a lot of cards..
When i blogged about it thanking them i had tears in my eyes...When Jordan returned home from Iraq we rented a beachhouse in Oceanside and spent 10 days with him and 1st platoon.. A blogger ordered 10 pizza's for the Saturday night party...Americans blow my mind...we are a good people.
* * *
How wonderful. Yes, no one had to community organize Americans into giving generously to charities of their choice!
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notutopia Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:25:24pm |
Looks like Debbie Schlussel has gotten SLAPPed.
Looks like we will get slapped with future MD's who have supported Anti-Israel and Hamas.
This all makes me very ill.....
[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]
List of all schmucks.....
[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:26:09pm |
re: #367 Oh no...Sand People!
I love the 'one way street'. What's good for me isn't good for you. (Which is an argument 'No to Prop 8'-ers could use also...but hey. The vote stands. The people spoke. Twice.)
Heh. I remember when the California Supreme Court overturned the first "ban" on gay marriage, NPR interviewed George Takai who was so happy because "this is what democracy is all about."
| 375 |
faraway Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:26:13pm |
We could all give to ACORN. Or, the Annenburg Challenge. Or, Habitat for Humanity. Or, Harvard Law.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:27:04pm |
re: #373 notutopia
Looks like Debbie Schlussel has gotten SLAPPed.
Looks like we will get slapped with future MD's who have supported Anti-Israel and Hamas.
This all makes me very ill.....
[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]List of all schmucks.....
[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]
She always struck me as verging on the hysterical at times, but, nobody needs this kinda crap. Good luck to her.
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broomer Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:28:05pm |
re: #376 taxfreekiller
The re-enlistments in the armed forces will be way down for 4 years.
Would you want to be under the Command of Pres. Obama?
upding just because I felt like it!
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albusteve Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:29:16pm |
re: #371 Lizard by the Bay
I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's at least as good as an "Emotional Rescue" or "Aftermath", but it's no "Exile on Main St." or "Some Girls".
I think we can all agree that it's much better than the latest flop album and that turd "Voodoo Lounge".
I thought Some Girls was average, Voodoo Lounge was crap and Emotional rescue a total embarrassment....I'm sticking with Bridges...it had all the elements of the older stuff that made them great....Exile is a difficult record to critique because of it's rushed production and party feel...surly a classic tho....after all it's got Tumblin Dice on it :)
| 380 |
Ben Hur Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:29:24pm |
Court Affirms Wiretapping Without Warrants
Question the effing timing.
Beyond this article, this will get no where near the 6 years of coverage, lies, smears, and attacks leveled at this President by the left and the opposition MSM.
But it does free up Obama and the MSM from cries of "double standard!" when he continues Bushitler's security policies.
By the way, why were they so silent about Echelon?
| 381 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:29:52pm |
re: #373 notutopia
Looks like Debbie Schlussel has gotten SLAPPed.
Looks like we will get slapped with future MD's who have supported Anti-Israel and Hamas.
This all makes me very ill.....
[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]List of all schmucks.....
[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]
Ashamed to see so many signatories from my alma mater. Jeez! I remember when they called us Terriers the Jew school. WTF happened?
| 382 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:30:03pm |
re: #374 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Heh. I remember when the California Supreme Court overturned the first "ban" on gay marriage, NPR interviewed George Takai who was so happy because "this is what democracy is all about."
Which is why I am proud I belong "to the REPUBLIC for which it stands".
2+2 does not = 5...yet.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:30:28pm |
re: #380 Ben Hur
Court Affirms Wiretapping Without Warrants
Question the effing timing.
Beyond this article, this will get no where near the 6 years of coverage, lies, smears, and attacks leveled at this President by the left and the opposition MSM.
But it does free up Obama and the MSM from cries of "double standard!" when he continues Bushitler's security policies.
By the way, why were they so silent about Echelon?
I think because they forgot about Echelon. It hasn't really been talked about in years.
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:30:49pm |
re: #365 lobo91
You don't actually live in the western US, do you?
If you did, you'd realize that almost without exception, mass transit systems are UTTER FAILURES in the west (BART being about the only successful one I can think of, offhand).
Western cities are not designed to make mass transit systems practical, whether light rail, subway, bus, or any other scheme you can think up. Cities in the west were built for cars.
Mass transit works in Manhattan and DC because those cities were built for horses.
* **
I've been stuck in your legendary California traffic, and those weren't 19th century horses' behinds but gazillion cars.
I will not vilify mass transit systems when I think our country could use better technology and less middle eastern/Hugo Chavez oil right now.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:31:00pm |
re: #379 albusteve
I thought Some Girls was average, Voodoo Lounge was crap and Emotional rescue a total embarrassment....I'm sticking with Bridges...it had all the elements of the older stuff that made them great....Exile is a difficult record to critique because of it's rushed production and party feel...surly a classic tho....after all it's got Tumblin Dice on it :)
Playing it as we blog!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:31:49pm |
I think Sharmuta has broken into the Karma Machine somehow. Hell, TFK's Karma isn't even over 10K.
Someone needs to call the...
wait for it...
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jcbunga Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:32:13pm |
re: #376 taxfreekiller
The re-enlistments in the armed forces will be way down for 4 years.
Would you want to be under the Command of Pres. Obama?
He's looking like Senator Palpatine before he flipped the switch on the clones.
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notutopia Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:32:15pm |
re: #377 Guanxi88
She always struck me as verging on the hysterical at times, but, nobody needs this kinda crap. Good luck to her.
If you are Hebrew or believe in medical treatment based on unbiased science and NOT your religious convictions, you better be saving the Good luck for yourself. This is not just about Debbie. Look at the
long lists of medical students that will be treating perhaps you and me in a potential National Healthcare
System.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:32:20pm |
re: #376 taxfreekiller
The re-enlistments in the armed forces will be way down for 4 years.
Would you want to be under the Command of Pres. Obama?
I think there are many factors involved with the new, professional military and it's too early to make that prediction. Obama gave lots of lip service to increasing vet benefits, increasing equipment spending and increasing the size of the military.
If he fumbles the ball in Iraq or Afghanastan a la Clinton in Somalia (increase the mission while decreasing resources), or if he gets us into a crazy mess in the Ukraine, then you well be right in this prediction.
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:32:26pm |
re: #375 faraway
We could all give to ACORN. Or, the Annenburg Challenge. Or, Habitat for Humanity. Or, Harvard Law.
* * *
You did already.
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Taqiyyotomist Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:32:47pm |
Discovery Institute would have been in last place if Danny Boy wasn't on the list. That actually comes as a mild shock to me. Ben Stein at forth-to-last place, only beaten by DI, Danny Boy, and Deepak.
What could this mean? My take: priorities. Bigness of problem. The voters have decided that 12 to 15 other entities listed are bigger threats than that which DI and Stein represent.
Anyone?
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notutopia Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:32:58pm |
re: #381 Guanxi88
Ashamed to see so many signatories from my alma mater. Jeez! I remember when they called us Terriers the Jew school. WTF happened?
You tell me! WTF is happening?
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:33:41pm |
re: #384 alegrias
* **
I've been stuck in your legendary California traffic, and those weren't 19th century horses' behinds but gazillion cars.I will not vilify mass transit systems when I think our country could use better technology and less middle eastern/Hugo Chavez oil right now.
Try being stuck in philippines traffic. That is legendary. They have a patent on loss of precious life hours waiting in traffic. Who ever designed parts of this place...
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:34:01pm |
re: #382 Oh no...Sand People!
2+2 does not = 5...yet.
'Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.'
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Ben Hur Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:34:01pm |
re: #383 vxbush
I think because they forgot about Echelon. It hasn't really been talked about in years.
When Clinton was and office, there were mass protests against him and the US when he went on over-seas visits.
Echelon was one reason they came out hard in Australia or New Zealand.
The American MSM ignored those anti-American riots, I recall.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:34:54pm |
re: #388 notutopia
If you are Hebrew or believe in medical treatment based on unbiased science and NOT your religious convictions, you better be saving the Good luck for yourself. This is not just about Debbie. Look at the
long lists of medical students that will be treating perhaps you and me in a potential National Healthcare
System.
Oh I know it, but there's nothing to be done. Hence, as I say, good luck to her.
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Dustyvet Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:34:57pm |
re: #234 lobo91
I wonder what an acceptable "alternative" to a gas-powered generator would be?
A case of batteries? Some candles, maybe?
Remember Edward G Robinson in Soylent Green, and how he made electric power for the apartment.
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:34:58pm |
re: #386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think Sharmuta has broken into the Karma Machine somehow. Hell, TFK's Karma isn't even over 10K.
Someone needs to call the...
wait for it...
Bringing it all together....
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albusteve Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:35:22pm |
re: #386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think Sharmuta has broken into the Karma Machine somehow. Hell, TFK's Karma isn't even over 10K.
Someone needs to call the...
wait for it...
likewise....off 'Rarities' awsome version....the very best I've ever heard
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:35:24pm |
re: #394 Guanxi88
'Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.'
I don't love Big Brother just yet!
/which is sad, because I actually am Big Brother to at least one person.
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JHW Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:36:20pm |
Going back to my chainsaw stuff, the Wall Street Journal ran an article Jan. 6 rating jobs in the US, 1-200. I feel so lucky, #200.
he Best The Worst
1. Mathematician 200. Lumberjack
2. Actuary 199. Dairy Farmer
3. Statistician 198. Taxi Driver
4. Biologist 197. Seaman
5. Software Engineer 196. EMT
6. Computer Systems Analyst 195. Roofer
7. Historian 194. Garbage Collector
8. Sociologist 193. Welder
9. Industrial Designer 192. Roustabout
10. Accountant 191. Ironworker
11. Economist 190. Construction Worker
12. Philosopher 189. Mail Carrier
13. Physicist 188. Sheet Metal Worker
14. Parole Officer 187. Auto Mechanic
15. Meteorologist 186. Butcher
16. Medical Laboratory Technician 185. Nuclear Decontamination Tech
17. Paralegal Assistant 184. Nurse (LN)
18. Computer Programmer 183. Painter
19. Motion Picture Editor 182. Child Care Worker
20. Astronomer 181. Firefighter
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:36:21pm |
re: #400 davinvalkri
I don't love Big Brother just yet!
/which is sad, because I actually am Big Brother to at least one person.
Always thought OBrien was the single most terrifying character in all modern fiction. He knew what he was, he knew what he was doing.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:36:25pm |
re: #395 Ben Hur
When Clinton was and office, there were mass protests against him and the US when he went on over-seas visits.
Echelon was one reason they came out hard in Australia or New Zealand.
The American MSM ignored those anti-American riots, I recall.
Yes, but it was a big deal in the tech industry, where I worked then. Lots of people were upset from both sides of the aisle. And yet, nothing ever came of those protests.
Contrast that with the time when the news was "leaked" (cough cough) about the interrogation units run by the CIA overseas a few years ago. But that garnered more outrage from the MSM than the people.
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jorline Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:36:28pm |
This is rich...Boy George?
NEW SONG IS OBAMA TRIBUTE: 'YES WE CAN'...
And look at the Boy now.
Yes We Can send your fat-ass to jail!
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:36:54pm |
re: #394 Guanxi88
'Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.'
Here! Here!
*passes Victory Gin around to all lizards*
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:37:27pm |
re: #406 Oh no...Sand People!
Here! Here!
*passes Victory Gin around to all lizards*
Yes, if only there were some way to flank them.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:37:31pm |
re: #401 JHW
Going back to my chainsaw stuff, the Wall Street Journal ran an article Jan. 6 rating jobs in the US, 1-200. I feel so lucky, #200.
1. Mathematician 200. Lumberjack
2. Actuary 199. Dairy Farmer
3. Statistician 198. Taxi Driver
Don't you tell ME math isn't important! ! ! !
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:37:51pm |
re: #393 Oh no...Sand People!
Try being stuck in philippines traffic. That is legendary. They have a patent on loss of precious life hours waiting in traffic. Who ever designed parts of this place...
I took a ride in the front seat of a Manila taxi once. It was scarier than bungee jumping. Lesson learned...always get in the back seat.
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:38:27pm |
re: #384 alegrias
I've been stuck in your legendary California traffic, and those weren't 19th century horses' behinds but gazillion cars.
I don't live in California, so don't blame me for it.
I will not vilify mass transit systems when I think our country could use better technology and less middle eastern/Hugo Chavez oil right now.
I guess it was too much trouble to even attempt to refute my points, huh?
Next time you're in LA, take a look at their great new multi-billion dollar subway system.
That nobody rides.
Or the nice, shiny Vegas monorail.
That nobody rides (aside from a handful of drunk tourists who have half-price coupons).
If they waste untold billions of dollars on a new light rail system in Seattle, it will turn out exactly the same.
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:38:35pm |
re: #401 JHW
Going back to my chainsaw stuff, the Wall Street Journal ran an article Jan. 6 rating jobs in the US, 1-200. I feel so lucky, #200.
Firefighters tend to think they have the BEST job.....
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Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:38:42pm |
re: #374 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
NPR interviewed George Takai who was so happy because "this is what democracy is all about."
Serious question, was he joking? I can see someone supporting the court decision over the vote and making a clever sarcasitc/ironic joke about it. But surely, he isn't that bassackwards.
Rule by the people is all about the will of the people being overturned by the courts.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:39:22pm |
re: #394 Guanxi88
'Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.'
You must be Bernie Madoff's accountant.
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Taqiyyotomist Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:39:37pm |
re: #380 Ben Hur
Court Affirms Wiretapping Without Warrants
Question the effing timing.
Beyond this article, this will get no where near the 6 years of coverage, lies, smears, and attacks leveled at this President by the left and the opposition MSM.
But it does free up Obama and the MSM from cries of "double standard!" when he continues Bushitler's security policies.
By the way, why were they so silent about Echelon?
Given the reality of Democrats, and their past use of the FBI, these will be used to wiretap conservatives, who are all abortionist-killers and clinic-bombers and potential First Black President-killers. And anti-Muslim Backlash&trade-ers.
Mosques and Weather Underground types, don't worry, you're set.
DU and DKos and Huffpo kiddies, you can (AND WILL, I'LL BET) quit your incessant whining now that the wiretaps will no longer be used to track terrorists and to stop murderous plots before they happen. Yay!
-Taq
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faraway Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:39:37pm |
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offendi Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:39:42pm |
I must protest the results.
The Mainstream Media will turn on Obama like a jilted boyfriend when Hussein is forced to the center on major issues because outside of Washington, LA, and NYC the USA is basically a conservative country. Obama understands this, an example his meeting with conservative columnists who want to be "playahs". The MM will also be pissed when they finally realize the Clintons are really running the country again. Obama is a figurehead.
I would have advocated long and loud for a tie : Barney Frank and Ahmadinejad. Barney's forcing Fannie and Freddie to loan heavily to the credit-unworthy collapsed our economy in the end. Ahmadinejad is a tool, year in and year out.
And I would have made Blago the man of the year. If the dems can't handle a Chicago pol, how are they going to do with Putin, Ahmadinejad, and Chavez? It ain't going to be pretty friends.
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:39:52pm |
re: #409 DeafDog
I took a ride in the front seat of a Manila taxi once. It was scarier than bungee jumping. Lesson learned...always get in the back seat.
* * * *
Spanish taxi drivers were also considered such crazy maniacs, in the 1960s you could insult someone by saying "so taxista!" like "you thug!"
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:40:00pm |
re: #402 Guanxi88
Always thought OBrien was the single most terrifying character in all modern fiction. He knew what he was, he knew what he was doing.
He knew what he was, but we didn't know. He didn't say anything about himself other that "they got me long ago". He's a bloody cypher.
On a lighter note, I know where George Orwell got his term for the dictator who rules over all (some kind of class with a really silly advertising slogan), but did he have to choose a term that makes every first-born son in multi-child families feel like dirt?
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:40:04pm |
re: #376 taxfreekiller
The re-enlistments in the armed forces will be way down for 4 years.
Would you want to be under the Command of Pres. Obama?
The Dems have already been talking about re-instating the draft.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:40:09pm |
| 423 |
pat Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:40:47pm |
barney must be disappointed. Oh well. No doubt he shall remain a contender.
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JHW Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:41:08pm |
re: #411 jcm
Yes, and EMT kinda surprised me being so low also, friends doing EMT here seem to get a lot of satisfaction from their job, demanding as it is.
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vxbush Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:41:14pm |
re: #414 Lincolntf
I'd rather be #200 than #1.
Well, if you love what you do, then it's your #1 job. End of story. But I'm more curious to know *why* they listed mathematicians as #1. My current job has bits and pieces of several positions listed.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:41:48pm |
re: #412 Silhouette
Serious question, was he joking? I can see someone supporting the court decision over the vote and making a clever sarcasitc/ironic joke about it. But surely, he isn't that bassackwards.
Rule by the people is all about the will of the people being overturned by the courts.
No, he was serious, I'm afraid.
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DaddyG Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:42:17pm |
re: #74 Jetpilot1101
The repeal of "don't ask don't tell" is going to go over like a lead balloon in the military. I have absolutely no problem with homosexuals but it's one thing to have no problem with their lifestyle, it's another to have a man ogling you in the shower because he can now be open about his choice. I predict a lot of sexual harassment cases in the not too distant future.
I don't think the harassment is going to be a big issue. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they want to do it with every guy in the locker room.
However, accomodation is a huge potential issue. If an openly gay couple wants to room together on a millitatry facility what prevents a heterosexual couple from suing to get the same right? How about partner benefits, etc? There will be no shortage of creative ways to screw the whole arrangement up.
| 428 |
eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:42:53pm |
re: #389 DeafDog
I think there are many factors involved with the new, professional military and it's too early to make that prediction. Obama gave lots of lip service to increasing vet benefits, increasing equipment spending and increasing the size of the military.
If he fumbles the ball in Iraq or Afghanastan a la Clinton in Somalia (increase the mission while decreasing resources), or if he gets us into a crazy mess in the Ukraine, then you well be right in this prediction.
He has also said that he would cut the military budget by 25%. Reconcile that.
Even if he cancels the F-22, laser weapons, and missile shield I doubt he'd be up to 25% without cutting into personnel financing.
| 429 |
Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:43:03pm |
re: #426 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
No, he was serious, I'm afraid.
Oh well, at least he's just an actor, not a surgeon or a pilot. He is unlikely to hurt anyone.
| 430 |
alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:43:25pm |
re: #410 lobo91
I guess it was too much trouble to even attempt to refute my points, huh?
Next time you're in LA, take a look at their great new multi-billion dollar subway system.
That nobody rides.
Or the nice, shiny Vegas monorail.
That nobody rides (aside from a handful of drunk tourists who have half-price coupons).
If they waste untold billions of dollars on a new light rail system in Seattle, it will turn out exactly the same.
* * *
Sorry, I ride Metro jampacked sardine style everyday, full of US military in uniform going to their military jobs during war time, so perhaps cannot refute your points, much less imagine EMPTY transportation systems that are wastes of your money.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:43:49pm |
re: #409 DeafDog
I took a ride in the front seat of a Manila taxi once. It was scarier than bungee jumping. Lesson learned...always get in the back seat.
I am trying to get a group of people to have a 'mini' Amazing Race. We are all going to get the motor bike sidecar drivers and mark out 5 places in manila. Then we see who can run the gamut. It will probably cover about 15 miles...so if we give ourselves 3 days...we should finish in time.
I was going to get one of the 'Pedal bike' side car seat guys...but me at 240 lbs and them at about 105 lbs...that would just be cruel... even for a boat load of pesos for payment, wife wouldn't let me either...
| 432 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:44:12pm |
re: #401 JHW
Philosopher is number 12?!? Name one person who makes his living as a philosopher! Being a philosophy teacher doesn't count.
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faraway Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:44:25pm |
re: #423 pat
barney must be disappointed. Oh well. No doubt he shall remain a contender.
barney is always behind
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:45:09pm |
re: #412 Silhouette
Serious question, was he joking? I can see someone supporting the court decision over the vote and making a clever sarcasitc/ironic joke about it. But surely, he isn't that bassackwards.
Rule by the people is all about the will of the people being overturned by the courts.
Too many forget we ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY!
We are Representative Republic with the Rule of Law.
| 435 |
karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:45:25pm |
Damn!
I forgot to synchronize my calendar to the moon.
As a result, I missed Ashura this year.
Maybe next year.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:45:33pm |
re: #401 JHW
Going back to my chainsaw stuff, the Wall Street Journal ran an article Jan. 6 rating jobs in the US, 1-200. I feel so lucky, #200.
Best jobs? That's crap! *wink*
Look the best job would be the lead singer of the greatest band of all time..
I'm thinking the most handsome movie star in the era..A wingman on a 5 time world championship basketball team..Married to a brazilian supermodel..
a wall st. tycon..er maybe not that...
To be on Paris Hilton's speed dial..,,The Yankees play by play man on tv..I dunno..How about the job of traveling the world in my customize 747?
/ i swear when i get the 747 I'm going for the spinning rims...
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Lincolntf Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:46:15pm |
re: #425 vxbush
I assume they use dozens of factors like income, work hours per week, likelihood of injury, pensions, etc. all balled up into some arcane equation.
/But, ask any kid under the age of 12 if he wants to be a lumberjack or a mathematician and I think you'll find the "better" job.
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jorline Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:46:17pm |
re: #432 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Philosopher is number 12?!? Name one person who makes his living as a philosopher! Being a philosophy teacher doesn't count.
BHO did it during the election and got himself a four year job. :)
| 439 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:46:25pm |
re: #428 eschew_obfuscation
He has also said that he would cut the military budget by 25%. Reconcile that.
Even if he cancels the F-22, laser weapons, and missile shield I doubt he'd be up to 25% without cutting into personnel financing.
I can't reconcile all of Obama's promises. I heard a quip on Rush today at lunch - "all Obama statements should come with an expiration date."
Like the Texas weather, if you don't like what you are hearing from Obama today, wait 12 hours and it'll change.
| 440 |
Empire1 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:46:41pm |
re: #376 taxfreekiller
The re-enlistments in the armed forces will be way down for 4 years.
Would you want to be under the Command of Pres. Obama?
Not only no, but Hells NO! Mr. Empire was in under Carter (with the part of the Presidential Wing that was sent to Germany to keep it out of public notice), and that was quite bad enough, thank you very much!
| 441 |
davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:46:44pm |
re: #428 eschew_obfuscation
He has also said that he would cut the military budget by 25%. Reconcile that.
Even if he cancels the F-22, laser weapons, and missile shield I doubt he'd be up to 25% without cutting into personnel financing.
WHAT?! NOOOOOOO! DON'T CUT THE F-22! AIEEE!
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JHW Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:46:49pm |
re: #432 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I was just looking at a site yesterday, College Humor or some such in a humorous vein that had a list of majors guaranteed to keep you unemployed
which made your exact same point.
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Dustyvet Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:46:51pm |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:47:07pm |
re: #427 DaddyG
I don't think the harassment is going to be a big issue. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they want to do it with every guy in the locker room.
However, accomodation is a huge potential issue. If an openly gay couple wants to room together on a millitatry facility what prevents a heterosexual couple from suing to get the same right? How about partner benefits, etc? There will be no shortage of creative ways to screw the whole arrangement up.
If office place romances are taken as being a bad idea, then it's a heap big bad idea if your office place is a battlefield.
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:47:20pm |
re: #428 eschew_obfuscation
He has also said that he would cut the military budget by 25%. Reconcile that.
Even if he cancels the F-22, laser weapons, and missile shield I doubt he'd be up to 25% without cutting into personnel financing.
That's a given. The biggest expenditure in the military is personnel costs, which is one reason it never makes any sense to compare our defense expenditures to those of most other countries.
We actually pay our Soldiers, unlike, say, China, where they get a couple of bowls of rice a day and call it even.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:47:51pm |
re: #436 HoosierHoops
Best jobs? That's crap! *wink*
Look the best job would be the lead singer of the greatest band of all time..
I'm thinking the most handsome movie star in the era..A wingman on a 5 time world championship basketball team..Married to a brazilian supermodel..
a wall st. tycon..er maybe not that...
To be on Paris Hilton's speed dial..,,The Yankees play by play man on tv..I dunno..How about the job of traveling the world in my customize 747?
/ i swear when i get the 747 I'm going for the spinning rims...
| 448 |
kcladderman Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:48:33pm |
re: #424 JHW
Yes, and EMT kinda surprised me being so low also, friends doing EMT here seem to get a lot of satisfaction from their job, demanding as it is.
Same with firefighting. Although the majority of firefighters are emts also. Everyone I know loves our job. The senior Captain on our department joined the department when Eisenhower was in office. No fooling he joined the dept in July of1960. One year before I was born. I have never heard a firefighter say man I hate this job I can't wait to retire.
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jorline Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:48:47pm |
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JHW Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:48:56pm |
re: #436 HoosierHoops
Just goes to show you're a lot more imaginative than the WSJ writer that wrote that article. I like your ideas better.
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Taqiyyotomist Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:49:15pm |
re: #418 offendi
Re: mainstream media turning on Obama.
If I had any money, I would see if you would want to place a wager. I don't think the MSM will ever turn on Obama, not before, during, or ever after his one and only term. He is the new Kennedy for them, and they will forever kowtow to the man.
The fringe might turn on him, (like the hard-Communists turned on JFK, for not being Leftist/Communist enough), but never the MSM. And no, not even MSNBC.
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:49:20pm |
re: #443 Dustyvet
"I'm dreaming of a... oh never mind..."
Ugh! Why would you want to whip yourself like that? Is this some kind of public display of biblical grief for the cameras?
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VioletTiger Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:49:26pm |
re: #285 davinvalkri
Amidst all this talk of who's gay and who isn't, anyone fans of any asexual entertainers? Or know any asexual entertainers?
Okay, what are asexuals? They don't like anybody?
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:49:28pm |
re: #441 davinvalkri
WHAT?! NOOOOOOO! DON'T CUT THE F-22! AIEEE!
The F-35 is on the list, too.
Along with the Army's Future Combat System (FCS).
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kcladderman Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:49:54pm |
re: #437 Lincolntf
I assume they use dozens of factors like income, work hours per week, likelihood of injury, pensions, etc. all balled up into some arcane equation.
/But, ask any kid under the age of 12 if he wants to be a lumberjack or a mathematician and I think you'll find the "better" job.
He will say Fireman!
/////
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:50:22pm |
re: #454 lobo91
The F-35 is on the list, too.
Along with the Army's Future Combat System (FCS).
Zombie Reagan! Where are you! Someone bring him back!
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faraway Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:50:39pm |
re: #453 VioletTiger
Okay, what are asexuals? They don't like anybody?
I think they have sex with themselves.
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JHW Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:51:30pm |
re: #448 kcladderman
I always heard the same. I really take my hat off to some of the Volunteer Firefighters in my area, the mandated training takes a lot of time and effort and most of them are EMTs also.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:51:56pm |
re: #432 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Philosopher is number 12?!? Name one person who makes his living as a philosopher! Being a philosophy teacher doesn't count.
Wasn't it Woody Allen who pointed out nobody inherits an old Logical Positivist fortune?
What about Comicus?
Dole Office Clerk: Occupation?
Comicus: Stand-up philosopher.
Dole Office Clerk: What?
Comicus: Stand-up philosopher. I coalesce the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension.
Dole Office Clerk: Oh, a *bullshit* artist!
Comicus: *Grumble*...
Dole Office Clerk: Did you bullshit last week?
Comicus: No.
Dole Office Clerk: Did you *try* to bullshit last week?
Comicus: Yes!
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hous bin pharteen Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:52:08pm |
It should not be the MSM. It should be the MSP.
(Main Stream Propaganda)
If any of you are still alive, and not radioactive, come see me this spring and summer.
I am the one with the a green football on the car.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:52:51pm |
re: #431 Oh no...Sand People!
Also in my travels, the group I was touring with took one of those took-tooks. One guy was sort of hanging loosely off the back and he got pushed off. The driver was alarmed at first but we told him to go.....we were a cruel group {rugby does that to people}
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:53:02pm |
re: #444 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
If office place romances are taken as being a bad idea, then it's a heap big bad idea if your office place is a battlefield.
* * *
Never stopped Arafat.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:53:04pm |
re: #459 karmic_inquisitor
Quick !
Ashura caption contest!
"OUCH. I swear this is how you throw a shotput."
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:53:12pm |
re: #452 davinvalkri
Ugh! Why would you want to whip yourself like that? Is this some kind of public display of biblical grief for the cameras?
ding ding ding!
You win!
And for your prize you get a chain with a sharpened rusty hook on the end!
Use it in good health!
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Lincolntf Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:53:13pm |
re: #459 karmic_inquisitor
"Seriously? This is a holiday?!?"
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Taqiyyotomist Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:53:16pm |
I'm feeling quite invisible today.
BBL, Lizards. God Bless you all.
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:53:37pm |
re: #447 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I want that plane! My sound sound would rock...I want a hot tub!
/Math top profession..yea.right..
If i can become a democrat how many groupies do I get? I mean the proper number that doesn't get me in trouble? And I'll need a good link on dodging taxes cause the head of the US Treasure has got to be a pretty good dream job..And the Vice-President has got to be a dream job..It's like being the backup QB to Peyton Manning..
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:53:48pm |
re: #432 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Philosopher is number 12?!? Name one person who makes his living as a philosopher! Being a philosophy teacher doesn't count.
Isn't that what blogging is all about?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:54:06pm |
re: #466 Lincolntf
"Seriously? This is a holiday?!?"
Or a wild night in certain free-spirited locales. In others, it's a $10.00 cover charge and a two-drink minimum.
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:54:16pm |
re: #439 DeafDog
I can't reconcile all of Obama's promises. I heard a quip on Rush today at lunch - "all Obama statements should come with an expiration date."
Like the Texas weather, if you don't like what you are hearing from Obama today, wait 12 hours and it'll change.
True dat!
I'm really hoping the worst we'll get from him is Bush-Lite with leftist rhetoric attached.
Things like very public executive orders to close GITMO, followed quietly by years of working out how to do it.
Promises to cut the Pentagon budget by 25%, followed by 'adjustments' because of unforeseen circumstances.
Promises to 'outlaw' aggressive interrogation techniques, followed by a very quiet redefinition of 'aggressive'.
As TFK says.... 'like that'
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:54:22pm |
re: #448 kcladderman
Same with firefighting. Although the majority of firefighters are emts also. Everyone I know loves our job. The senior Captain on our department joined the department when Eisenhower was in office. No fooling he joined the dept in July of1960. One year before I was born. I have never heard a firefighter say man I hate this job I can't wait to retire.
They didn't talk to people doing the jobs.
To quantify the many facets of the 200 jobs included in our report, we determined and reviewed various critical aspects of all of the jobs, categorizing them into five "Core Criteria;" that is, the general categories that are inherent to every job: Environment, Income, Outlook, Stress and Physical Demands.
Firefighting is a high stress, in dangerous environments, with high physical demands. Most firefighters, and I were one, eat that stuff up.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:54:46pm |
re: #462 DeafDog
Also in my travels, the group I was touring with took one of those took-tooks. One guy was sort of hanging loosely off the back and he got pushed off. The driver was alarmed at first but we told him to go.....we were a cruel group {rugby does that to people}
Low, but effective.
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J.S. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:54:52pm |
re: #451 Taqiyyotomist
I think the ones who will turn on Obama will be not just the hard-hard Left, but people in Europe...(that clamouring bunch of yahoos -- if Obama does not kowtow to them, then it'll be "game over" and back to "Let us loathe the United States".)
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davinvalkri Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:55:26pm |
re: #459 karmic_inquisitor
"Why are we doing this again?"
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vxbush Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:55:26pm |
re: #455 kcladderman
He will say Fireman!
/////
Okay, if I'm in a burning building, I definitely want a fireman around. But the young'uns today want internet access and cell phones. So they should gravitate to network engineer and cellular technology engineers. Of course, those jobs demand a certain amount of MATH SKILLS.
Forgive me, but a pox on all the elementary teachers who have caused their students to hate math.
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:55:34pm |
re: #466 Lincolntf
"Seriously? This is a holiday?!?"
Isn't it obvious from this photo?
We Americans are quite boring when it comes to celebrating holidays.
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alegrias Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:55:50pm |
re: #451 Taqiyyotomist
Re: mainstream media turning on Obama.
If I had any money, I would see if you would want to place a wager. I don't think the MSM will ever turn on Obama, not before, during, or ever after his one and only term. He is the new Kennedy for them, and they will forever kowtow to the man.
The fringe might turn on him, (like the hard-Communists turned on JFK, for not being Leftist/Communist enough), but never the MSM. And no, not even MSNBC.
* * *
Agree! Clinton was still their Best President Ever--despite the evidence, Al Qaeda, etc.--and lookie here, they've got them back, new & improved and all is forgiven.
Sorry, MSM drank the koolaid and it's terminal.
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:56:32pm |
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:56:39pm |
re: #477 karmic_inquisitor
Isn't it obvious from this photo?
We Americans are quite boring when it comes to celebrating holidays.
Next time...swing just a tad higher and more to the front.
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Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:57:16pm |
Shouldn't we have had our annual "Festival of Ashura" thread by now?
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:57:17pm |
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albusteve Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:57:17pm |
re: #480 Oh no...Sand People!
Next time...swing just a tad higher and more to the front.
use a machete you pussy....
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:58:07pm |
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jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:58:16pm |
re: #477 karmic_inquisitor
Isn't it obvious from this photo?
We Americans are quite boring when it comes to celebrating holidays.
Pakistani Shiite Muslim mouners flagella
Flagella? Don't those come on asexual single cell organisms?
/
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:58:37pm |
re: #474 J.S.
I think the ones who will turn on Obama will be not just the hard-hard Left, but people in Europe...(that clamouring bunch of yahoos -- if Obama does not kowtow to them, then it'll be "game over" and back to "Let us loathe the United States".)
Well, they're already burning him in effigy in Iran ...
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JimV Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:59:02pm |
I'm surprised Al Franken isn't on the list. Maybe we can get his people to insist on a recount and he can end up winning.
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Dustyvet Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:59:16pm |
re: #470 Guanxi88
Or a wild night in certain free-spirited locales. In others, it's a $10.00 cover charge and a two-drink minimum.
Can't fool me, a minimum is a small British Mother...:)
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 1:59:34pm |
re: #486 eschew_obfuscation
Well, they're already burning him in effigy in Iran ...
Ya know, what with the recession on and all, I wonder if all the pinata makers have considered taking up the effigy business. You wouldn't need to re-tool that much, and it would certainly help with Mexico's balance of trade problems.
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Walter L. Newton Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:00:06pm |
I ran back from the theatre to my apartment for a few minutes to get something, and I saw this.
For the MSM, this award is a banner, a confirmation that they are doing their job well, and doing it to the determent of our country.
Ok, back out of here.
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faraway Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:00:21pm |
My favorite jobs:
- odor tester
- fortune cookie writer
- snake milker
- chicken sexer
- Adult Store Attendant
- Golf Ball Diver
- Fecal archaeologist
| 493 |
Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:00:23pm |
re: #476 vxbush
Forgive me, but a pox on all the elementary teachers who have caused their students to hate math.
And blame Barbie!
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:00:27pm |
re: #488 Dustyvet
Can't fool me, a minimum is a small British Mother...:)
From what I hear, British demongraphy is such that the Limeys are all seedless.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:00:35pm |
Night, Lizards. I'll be here with you all on Immaculation Day!
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Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:00:45pm |
re: #490 Walter L. Newton
I ran back from the theatre to my apartment for a few minutes to get something, and I saw this.
For the MSM, this award is a banner, a confirmation that they are doing their job well, and doing it to the determent of our country.
Ok, back out of here.
Break a leg Walter!
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faraway Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:01:18pm |
re: #490 Walter L. Newton
I ran back from the theatre to my apartment for a few minutes to get something, and I saw this.
For the MSM, this award is a banner, a confirmation that they are doing their job well, and doing it to the determent of our country.
Ok, back out of here.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:01:36pm |
re: #481 Oh no...Sand People!
Shouldn't we have had our annual "Festival of Ashura" thread by now?
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hous bin pharteen Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:01:49pm |
re: #475 davinvalkri
Maybe we are putting it in left wing heads. They sure like to masturbate. Why not let them try flagellating?
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:02:33pm |
re: #494 Guanxi88
From what I hear, British
demongraphydemography is such that the Limeys are all seedless.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:02:47pm |
re: #486 eschew_obfuscation
Well, they're already burning him in effigy in Iran ...
It's 50-50, IMO, on which side an Obama administartion will back in the current Gaza-Israel conflict.
If he back Israel, the protesters will be forced to do the Obama/Hitler posters - it's the only shtick they know.
Moonbat heads will explode at the sight.
| 503 |
Sheepdogess Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:03:28pm |
re: #427 DaddyG
re: #427 DaddyG
I don't think the harassment is going to be a big issue. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they want to do it with every guy in the locker room.
However, accomodation is a huge potential issue. If an openly gay couple wants to room together on a millitatry facility what prevents a heterosexual couple from suing to get the same right? How about partner benefits, etc? There will be no shortage of creative ways to screw the whole arrangement up.
This is way beyond benefts. It's about sexual tension. Openly gay men serving in the military is going to be a real problem for the service academies. Allowing gay men to shower with straight men is insane. Might as well have the ladies showering with them as well. There is no difference.
Once again the liberals doing way too much {Feeling}, and not enough THINKING.
This president elect is as fool.
| 504 |
Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:03:36pm |
re: #492 faraway
- Golf Ball Diver
We had to model this hypothetical guy's exposure one time, assuming he was wearing scuba and in all the golf course ponds.
We called him the SCUBA Golf Ball Retriever, or SCUBA GBR. We quickly started saying Scuba Goober.
| 505 |
hous bin pharteen Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:03:44pm |
re: #487 JimV
Oh sheeate, I love the picture of him in the diaper.!
| 506 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:03:52pm |
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Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:04:48pm |
re: #505 hous bin pharteen
Oh
sheeateShiite, I love the picture of him in the diaper.!
Rest Ashura'ed, I'll fix yer typos.
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:04:51pm |
re: #501 DeafDog
It's 50-50, IMO, on which side an Obama administartion will back in the current Gaza-Israel conflict.
If he back Israel, the protesters will be forced to do the Obama/Hitler posters - it's the only shtick they know.
Moonbat heads will explode at the sight.
I think you're right about it being 50/50. For that reason, I don't think he'll do much of anything on Israel/Palestine issues. Too controversial and he'd have to take real positions that could not easily be changed. Could be wrong, but my current thoughts.
| 509 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:05:15pm |
re: #493 Silhouette
And blame Barbie!
Well, that certainly didn't help. Actually, we need to do a better job of showing how good math skills connects to better jobs and have word problems that relate to *industry* instead of stupid problems like pie cutting, fences, and the like.
| 510 |
abolitionist Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:05:18pm |
re: #311 LGoPs
It saddens me deeply that the Soviets, with hundreds of divisions, couldn't accomplish what a mere handful of democrats have managed to do. Bring us to our knees and to the brink of becoming what we've been fighting against the last 60 years..........
I'm more than saddened. I'm angry. My children's future is mortgaged to the hilt, and it looks to be more dangerous in so many more ways than the Cuban Missile Crisis ever was, and for a long time to come.
We have educators who should know better teaching our children that Global Warming and President Bush are the greatest dangers in the world, that we don't really have deadly enemies who have declared war on us and who seek the demise of capitalism, democracy and western civilization. No, they are just trying desperately to capture our attention and sympathies, for the sole purpose of gaining favorable international aid deals. Like Arafat, the Nobel Peace Prize winner.
| 511 |
jorline Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:05:24pm |
re: #495 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Night, Lizards. I'll be here with you all on
ImmaculationInoculation Day!
Tweaked just a tad...I will need a booster that day.
Good night, BDVM.
| 512 |
jorline Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:05:54pm |
| 513 |
jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:06:22pm |
re: #501 DeafDog
It's 50-50, IMO, on which side an Obama administartion will back in the current Gaza-Israel conflict.
If he back Israel, the protesters will be forced to do the Obama/Hitler posters - it's the only shtick they know.
Moonbat heads will explode at the sight.
They will "support" Israel, while pushing hard for a cease fire and status quo ante. Which while sounds good to the media and lefties is anti-Israel.
| 515 |
hous bin pharteen Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:06:38pm |
re: #498 karmic_inquisitor
Thats not funny!
Charlie Brown is a lot smarter then left wingers!
| 516 |
Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:06:48pm |
re: #492 faraway
My favorite jobs:
- odor tester
- fortune cookie writer
- snake milker
- chicken sexer
- Adult Store Attendant
- Golf Ball Diver
- Fecal archaeologist
- Shaq is the glory years
- Kevin Costner
- Bill Gates ( just for the cash )
- Jackie Robinson
- POTUS
- a Junior Senator from illinois
- a student of Goddessoftheclassroom
- The Rolling Stones Manager ( Job for life)
| 517 |
So? Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:07:20pm |
| 518 |
eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:08:07pm |
re: #502 goddessoftheclassroom
Hi, again, Lizards.
Hey Goddess!
Say, do they still teach story problems and practical math using real-world situations in math classes?
| 519 |
hous bin pharteen Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:08:17pm |
re: #507 Guanxi88
Thanks.
I am trying to make it better, but sometimes I type to fast.
| 520 |
formercorpsman Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:08:40pm |
FWIW, re: Media turning on Obama.
My take on this, is they will not. They made the bed, they smoke their own press clips, and are the harbingers of political Stockholm Syndrome.
The one thing folks on the left have far, far excelled at, is calling a failure success. In their world, it was never poorly planned, or destined to fail. No, it is because it did not receive the proper funding.
What we see today, is a glaring example of this theory in play. We gave out hundreds of billions. We now want to give hundreds of billions more.
Even if Iran gets the bomb, unemployment hits double digits, and the stock market never sees 10,000 while he is in office, it will never fall on his shoulders.
| 521 |
Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:09:41pm |
re: #509 vxbush
Well, that certainly didn't help. Actually, we need to do a better job of showing how good math skills connects to better jobs and have word problems that relate to *industry* instead of stupid problems like pie cutting, fences, and the like.
I was a math tutor at a middle school for about 3 months. Job #1 was getting them to realize that math is easy. Most people make it harder than it is. I kept repeating it and by the end, I heard one girl helping another one saying, "Oh, this is easy...let me show you."
| 522 |
offendi Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:09:46pm |
re: #451 Taqiyyotomist
Re: mainstream media turning on Obama.
If I had any money, I would see if you would want to place a wager. I don't think the MSM will ever turn on Obama, not before, during, or ever after his one and only term. He is the new Kennedy for them, and they will forever kowtow to the man.
The fringe might turn on him, (like the hard-Communists turned on JFK, for not being Leftist/Communist enough), but never the MSM. And no, not even MSNBC.
The MSM have staked their prestige and egos on Barry. Barry will f-up badly at some point because he has no relevant experience. The ego-driven media will be outraged because Barry is theircreation and a reflection on them. The "novelty" of a mixed-race President will wear off very quickly when he can't move America forward. John McCain was at least smart enough to lose under the worst potential conditions an American President has faced since the Depression. Barry won because of anger over the breakdown of the economy under a Republican President, not because he had universal adoration and support among the majority of the USA. The American public is fickle. Barry has to do massive heavy lifting.
| 523 |
Lincolntf Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:10:05pm |
re: #501 DeafDog
The Obama/Hitler posters, now that is a mental image I hadn't yet contemplated.
Do you think the moonbats would actually do it? Does their anti-Semitism trump their triumphalism and political self-interest? Hard to say.
Still, it's one more reason to hope that Obama chooses the right path in the Mideast.
| 524 |
J.S. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:10:54pm |
re: #476 vxbush
Forgive me, but a pox on all the elementary teachers who have caused their students to hate math.
Say, have you seen the latest Nintendo DS "math" tutor? (it's a "Math trainer" for improving calculating skills...here's a link...) (I don't work for Nintendo nor have an interest in the company -- just posting for interest sake -- I want to purchase the Math trainer and see how it performs..)
| 525 |
hous bin pharteen Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:11:40pm |
re: #508 eschew_obfuscation
Your correct. He is next Marshmallow of the United States. And he gets toasted on Jan 20.
| 526 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:13:00pm |
re: #509 vxbush
Well, that certainly didn't help. Actually, we need to do a better job of showing how good math skills connects to better jobs and have word problems that relate to *industry* instead of stupid problems like pie cutting, fences, and the like.
I can't think of a job -- any sort -- that doesn't involve math.
I also don't know the distinction between "Software Engineer" and "Computer Programmer". and I is one!
I gotta leave, but I do remember seeing the "drug dealer math test" several years ago. That would be worth posting a link from the others that have probably seen it. It was forwarded to me by my older daughter, the high school math teacher.
| 527 |
DeafDog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:14:09pm |
re: #513 jcm
They will "support" Israel, while pushing hard for a cease fire and status quo ante. Which while sounds good to the media and lefties is anti-Israel.
That's a nice compromise that will please no one. True, it does placate the middle, but it certainly will not satisfy the hard-core left.
BHO will be portrayed as "Barak 'Saddam Hussein' Obama - The poster will have a picture of BHO with a Saddam-like Mustache. It'll be comedy gold watching Chris Mathews report on it.
| 528 |
opnion Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:16:09pm |
re: #523 Lincolntf
The Obama/Hitler posters, now that is a mental image I hadn't yet contemplated.
Do you think the moonbats would actually do it? Does their anti-Semitism trump their triumphalism and political self-interest? Hard to say.
Still, it's one more reason to hope that Obama chooses the right path in the Mideast.
The clue that Obama's inoculation from ridicule will be the late night comics.
As an example Leno avoids any criticism of Barry & still beats on Bush on the way out the door.
These comics are not profiles in courage & take their lead from public sentiment. If & when they turn, Obama will have trouble.
| 529 |
CIA Reject Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:18:31pm |
re: #402 Guanxi88
Always thought OBrien was the single most terrifying character in all modern fiction. He knew what he was, he knew what he was doing.
Just like BO...
| 530 |
JHW Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:18:44pm |
re: #526 jwb7605
I can't think of a job -- any sort -- that doesn't involve math.
I also don't know the distinction between "Software Engineer" and "Computer Programmer". and I is one!I gotta leave, but I do remember seeing the "drug dealer math test" several years ago. That would be worth posting a link from the others that have probably seen it. It was forwarded to me by my older daughter, the high school math teacher.
I believe you are right on this, even at my #200 job there is far more math involved than probably most people would suspect. Market grades, current prices for such, board feet and conversions to metric for Asian markets. Buyers will occasionally be out in the field with hand-held computation systems to ensure the greatest value was retrieved from an individual tree or stand.
| 531 |
kcladderman Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:19:20pm |
re: #476 vxbush
Okay, if I'm in a burning building, I definitely want a fireman around. But the young'uns today want internet access and cell phones. So they should gravitate to network engineer and cellular technology engineers. Of course, those jobs demand a certain amount of MATH SKILLS.
Forgive me, but a pox on all the elementary teachers who have caused their students to hate math.
Yea and us dum ole firmans don't kno nuthin about no arithmitick
| 532 |
Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:19:50pm |
| 533 |
offendi Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:23:16pm |
One more comment, the credibility and esteem of the MSM is more important than any candidate.
If Obama is Jimmah Carter II...
| 534 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:27:31pm |
re: #524 J.S.
Say, have you seen the latest Nintendo DS "math" tutor? (it's a "Math trainer" for improving calculating skills...here's a link...) (I don't work for Nintendo nor have an interest in the company -- just posting for interest sake -- I want to purchase the Math trainer and see how it performs..)
Sorry, I don't own any gaming system, so I know nothing about those markets and products.
| 535 |
summergurl Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:27:33pm |
HA HA One person, Barney Frank, received almost half of the votes of the MSM and the MSM is a whole lotta goofballs.
Barney is just one big ole goofball.
| 536 |
vxbush Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:28:49pm |
re: #531 kcladderman
Yea and us dum ole firmans don't kno nuthin about no arithmitick
I'm not suggesting you don't. And I love you guys for what you do. Actually, I was always fascinated with the investigators, knowing about burn rates, air flows, and the like.
| 537 |
itellu3times Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:29:19pm |
re: #104 faraway
Journalism is Dead. Who is the widow to accept the award?
Build a nice crescent of rememberance for the MSM that once was.
| 539 |
formercorpsman Fri, Jan 16, 2009 2:30:05pm |
re: #503 Sheepdogess
Thank you. I tried to articulate this in a post some days ago.
It is not about whether one agrees with the lifestyle or not. It has everything to do with readiness, and working as a team. It is not the same as the civilian world. Close quarters, are close quarters. It is not to say anything would happen, it most likely would not.
Something as simple as the open showers is an excellent case in point. On the level, whether or not someone might ogle in the shower is irrelevant. It introduces another dynamic in a situation that is already tough to develop without it.
Cohesion.
For me to think a openly gay male in such a situation would not be aware of this surrounding is absurd. They have urges like anyone else. Truthfully, it would be no different than having a straight shower with females, and think that he would not be ambivalent, recognizing that which surrounds him.
It is not about gay bashing. It is about recognizing what the potential problems might be, and deciding what is in the best interest as a whole.
| 540 |
BeckoningChasm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 3:00:15pm |
Wow, and poor Dan Rather comes in dead last. Amazing how his day in the sun has turned to sand in so short a time. Good riddance, Dan.
| 541 |
ceemack Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:02:30pm |
Oh, that's just perfect...yet another poll that doesn't even list Dr. Ron Paul.
The conspiracy continues.
/sarc off
| 542 |
Kenneth Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:32:18pm |
re: #539 formercorpsman
I do understand what you're saying about cohesion, its a real issue...but... openly gay or not, there are gay men & women in the armed forces right now. They've been there always. In the barracks, the showers, the front lines, the mess halls. They serve for the same reasons straight men & women do: patriotism or they were drafted. In the past, it was unthinkable to the average grunt or officer, and gays were discharged. Clinton brought in `don't ask don't tell` which pleased nobody. Maybe it was just a transition to the next phase which is, `ya, whatever dude, just pass the fuckin' ammo`
After all, nothing has really changed. Soldiers have a job to do & they will get on with it.
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Kenneth Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:34:37pm |
re: #540 BeckoningChasm
Dan who? Hold on, lemme google that name... huh?...well, well, apparently this Dan guy was once a bigwig of some sorts, had a prominent job and all. Oh well.
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realwest Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:38:03pm |
re: #543 Kenneth Oh, you mean that Dan who literally tried to throw the '04 election to John Kerry? The one Charles nailed with the now famous "Throbbing Memo" Dan?!
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Kenneth Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:40:07pm |
re: #544 realwest
Hey, real. Yeah, that Dan. I think he's hosting bowling for dollars on local access cable in Jersey now. If he does well, they'll let him read the weather.
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Canadhimmis Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:56:49pm |
For their leg-tingling coverage of the Obama campaign, and other misbehaviors too numerous to mention, the 2008 Idiotarian Award will go to ... the Mainstream Media.
I hereby predict that in 2010 the Idiotarian Award will go to the Obamster himself.
Even though the media will be on their knees in front of supportive of Barry the entire year and will be richly deserving of repeating the win, an idiotarian can only win once. S' sorry, but thems da rules.
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Perplexed Fri, Jan 16, 2009 5:22:06pm |
Damn, I got to vote 9x (OKC, home, and Topeka) and the Georgia sideshow freak (sorry to any side show freaks if you're offended) Cynthia didn't get it. Perhaps next year Cynthia. You've got to really work at being a despicable human reject Cynthia. More moon-bat isms and crazy support for radical islam might just do it.
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formercorpsman Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:06:30pm |
re: #542 Kenneth
Kenneth, I understand what you are saying, and it is true.
The issue is however, putting this out there front and center. To say it has always been there is quite frankly not the issue. Folks who serve know this, but our military has a standing policy about conduct, and especially as it relates to being in uniform.
Aside from any religious arguments, or moral arguments, do you think my premise is off the mark?
For me to think a openly gay male in such a situation would not be aware of this surrounding is absurd. They have urges like anyone else. Truthfully, it would be no different than having a straight shower with females, and think that he would not be ambivalent, recognizing that which surrounds him.
I happen to think this is important. I recall the quarters in boot camp. To say there was alpha male tension is about as big an understatement that anyone can make.
Changing it from don't ask don't tell will not play out well for overall recruitment, and readiness. I just don't. No offense, no insult, pure opinion on my part from experience.
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clayusmcret Fri, Jan 16, 2009 7:48:52pm |
You forgot an important candidate - Ron Paul supporters.
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RexMundi Sat, Jan 17, 2009 12:54:16am |
I demand a recount! There are plenty of pregnant radio buttons that were meant for Ben Stein!
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JCW Sat, Jan 17, 2009 3:31:02am |
The important think to remember is there are no winners with this award as all of the nominees are losers.
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uptight Sat, Jan 17, 2009 7:28:19am |
The wiiner: an option that shouldn't have been on the list.
At least it will be banned from future polls and, unless other beige generics like "Left wingers" or "Democrats" sneak their way on, we can concentrate on giving this award to a real person who deserves it.
To those that voted for the MSM - I'm speechless at your lack of imagination.
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Canoe Train Sat, Jan 17, 2009 7:46:44am |
re: #89 buzzsawmonkey
And here's....Boy George singing, "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me?"
Another blast from the past: "I'll Tumble For Ya"
The title and subject of the song are kind of along the same lines.
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