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The object of art is to give life a shape.

— William Shakespeare

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1 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:54:38pm

"Tubular"
/is that a shape or a state?

2 Sharmuta  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:54:48pm

What a lovely sentiment.

3 wiffersnapper  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:54:51pm

For the next 4 years, life will have a O-shape.

4 Mel Lono  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:54:53pm

Where did i go?

5 HelloDare  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:54:54pm

Boo!

6 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:55:08pm

re: #1 IslandLibertarian

"Tubular"
/is that a shape or a state?

It's a shape.

7 wiffersnapper  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:55:29pm

What's the shape of hope? Goose egg or zero?

8 Mel Lono  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:55:36pm

re: #1 IslandLibertarian

Without question, a state.

9 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:56:08pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

It's a shape.

The Shape Of State?

10 wiffersnapper  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:56:37pm

Or the state of shape?

11 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:57:14pm

re: #10 wiffersnapper

Or the state of shape?

that must be one of the 57 states!

12 wiffersnapper  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:57:30pm

re: #11 sattv4u2

zing!

13 jcm  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:57:30pm

This thread is boring...
///

14 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:57:38pm

And by asking, I have created "art"...

15 freetoken  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:57:40pm

re: #3 wiffersnapper

For the next 4 years, life will have a O-shape.

We'll all look like Oprah?

16 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:58:44pm

re: #7 wiffersnapper

What's the shape of hope? Goose egg or zero?

Hope is the shape of a unicorn.

17 sattv4u2  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:58:45pm

re: #13 jcm

This thread is boring...
///

funny ,,, I have a boar thats threading!

18 jcm  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:59:14pm

The shape of the future...

19 Sharmuta  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 10:59:24pm

re: #13 jcm

This thread is boring...
///

LOL!

To tell the truth though- there was a recent post or three I found boring. Instead of whining though, I found something else to do.

20 Dustyvet  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:00:48pm

re: #17 sattv4u2

funny ,,, I have a boar thats threading!

Youtube Video
21 Buster Bunny  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:02:03pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

LOL!

To tell the truth though- there was a recent post or three I found boring. Instead of whining though, I found something else to do.

Dont worry .. i'm busy knitting a new thread as we speak !

Loop one .. perl one .. loop one .. perl one ...

Wont take too long.

22 HelloDare  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:02:28pm

I just talked to Art.

Like Chris Matthews and Tavis Smiley, Art's purpose is to make sure Obama succeeds.

23 solomonpanting  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:02:53pm

If I had a cat I'd name it after Obama's wife:

"Here Sourpuss"

24 MrPaulRevere  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:03:48pm

I found this over at Ace's place, I got a giggle out of it. Language warning and all of that... [Link: ace.mu.nu...]

25 jcm  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:04:31pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

LOL!

To tell the truth though- there was a recent post or three I found boring. Instead of whining though, I found something else to do.

Always something to do...

I'm not bored, but the baby's tummy is full and she's slipped into a food coma. So I'm off to bed.

Later Lizards.

26 Edouard  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:05:17pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

Hope is the shape of a unicorn.

Actually, "Hope is the thing with feathers" according to Emily Dickinson.

/pardon me if I avoid watching the thing with feathers take the oath of office Tuesday

27 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:08:59pm

re: #26 Edouard

Actually, "Hope is the thing with feathers" according to Emily Dickinson.

/pardon me if I avoid watching the thing with feathers take the oath of office Tuesday

It's not a bad poem, but its not the whole story. Hope is only as good as the thing being hoped for. Pol Pot hoped for a pure communist state, Hamas seeks a pure Islamic state. Both hopes are evil as they seek evil ends and use evil means.

28 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:12:13pm

re: #1 IslandLibertarian

"Tubular"
/is that a shape or a state?

yes...

/Surf's Up!

29 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:13:48pm

re: #28 redc1c4
bingo!
my avatar was the giveaway...

30 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:13:59pm

re: #4 Mel Lono

Where did i go?

Straight to Hell boy...

31 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:14:00pm

re: #28 redc1c4

yes...

/Surf's Up!

Wipe out!

32 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:15:45pm

re: #29 IslandLibertarian

bingo!
my avatar was the giveaway...

naw... didn't need that... My Beach!

Locals Only...

33 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:16:45pm

re: #7 wiffersnapper

What's the shape of hope? Goose egg or zero?

waffle...

/white smoke

34 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:17:10pm

re: #33 redc1c4

waffle...

/white smoke

RACIST!

35 gmsc  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:18:09pm

Hope is the only universal liar who never loses his reputation for veracity.
-ROBERT G. INGERSOLL

Do not depend on the hope of results. You may have to face the fact that your work will be apparently worthless and even achieve no result at all, if not perhaps results opposite to what you expect. As you get used to this idea, you start more and more to concentrate not on the results, but on the value, the rightness, the truth of the work itself. You gradually struggle less and less for an idea and more and more for specific people. In the end, it is the reality of personal relationship that saves everything.
-THOMAS MERTON

36 Buster Bunny  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:18:45pm

ooh ooh .. revenge comes from all sorts of places !

Al Qaeda vs Black Death ... guess who wins?

turns out playing with biogenic warfare may just not be as cool as they think.

37 MarineGrunt  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:19:34pm

Shape up or ship out.

38 Mel Lono  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:21:30pm

re: #30 redc1c4

so you wanna rock! Crazy Horse

39 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:21:46pm

re: #26 Edouard

Actually, "Hope is the thing with feathers" according to Emily Dickinson.

/pardon me if I avoid watching the thing with feathers take the oath of office Tuesday

Hope is just failure postponed.

40 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:23:48pm

re: #37 MarineGrunt

Shape up or ship out.

too set in my ways to shape up, too fat to ship out.

guess i'll just DIP.

/somebody wanna load mags for me?

41 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:24:14pm

re: #36 Buster Bunny

ooh ooh .. revenge comes from all sorts of places !

Al Qaeda vs Black Death ... guess who wins?

turns out playing with biogenic warfare may just not be as cool as they think.

As Walter said earlier, It's fitting for Al Qaeda to be wounded be a medieval disease. Hopefully, the disease wrecks their organization for a while.

BTW: It may not have been them messing around with bio-war. Plague is native to Central Asia.

And finally for the "Black Death":

RACIST! (kidding)

42 least  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:24:47pm

What is it?
Another winner from APOD

43 gmsc  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:27:26pm

Are you ready for the Evolution Transition on February 17, 2009?

After that date, creationists will no longer be allowed to benefit from any scientific discoveries of any sort.

Don't be "Left Behind"! Contact your state government and get a federal discount coupon good for 60% any edition of "On The Origin of Species" at any book store!

44 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:28:01pm

re: #43 gmsc

Are you ready for the Evolution Transition on February 17, 2009?

After that date, creationists will no longer be allowed to benefit from any scientific discoveries of any sort.

Don't be "Left Behind"! Contact your state government and get a federal discount coupon good for 60% any edition of "On The Origin of Species" at any book store!

LOL!

45 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:28:08pm

re: #38 Mel Lono

so you wanna rock! Crazy Horse

pull my Powderfinger?

46 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:28:39pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

Ah yes, but these victims were in Algeria. Northern Africa. . . .

47 stevieray  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:29:18pm

re: #36 Buster Bunny

ooh ooh .. revenge comes from all sorts of places !

Al Qaeda vs Black Death ... guess who wins?

turns out playing with biogenic warfare may just not be as cool as they think.

I doubt it was due to nefarious reasons... probably just a naturally occurring outbreak. Besides, the plague is a really dumb disease to weaponize -- its too easily cured with off-the-shelf antibiotics. It would kill less than 1% of victims in an advanced society... while killing 10 - 50% in a hospital-free backwater.

48 Mel Lono  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:30:35pm

re: #45 redc1c4

just loaded up Cortez the Killer, but I give.

49 Clio  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:31:29pm

I am curious about the source of that quotation from Shakespeare.

The tone just does not seem Elizabethan.

50 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:31:30pm

re: #46 BlueCanuck

Ah yes, but these victims were in Algeria. Northern Africa. . . .

Oops, sorry.

51 Tasty Beverage  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:32:35pm

Lizardoids, I've been "distracted" lately but has anyone here made the connection of The One, and his orgasmic followers with Commodus from the movie Gladiator? Huge crowds of adoring fans adulating a young, inexperienced emperor? Because I can't get this out of my mind, and I had to transcribe it myself because the imsdb has the first draft of the movie, and it's totally different. Therefore:

Senator Gracchus: He enters Rome like a conquering hero. But what has he conquered?

Senator Falco: Give him time, Gracchus, he's young. I think he could do very well.

Gracchus: For Rome, or for you?

...

Commodus: Senators.

Falco: Rome greets her new emperor. Your loyal subjects bid you welcome, Highness.

Commodus: Thank you Falco. And for the loyal subjects, I trust they weren't too expensive.

...

Commodus: I think I understand my own people.

Gracchus: Then perhaps Caesar will be so good as to teach us, out of his own extensive experience.

Commodus: I call it love. I am their father, the people are my children. I shall hold them to my bosom and embrace them tightly.

Gracchus: Have you ever embraced someone dying of plague, sire?

Commodus: No. But if you interrupt me again, I assure you that you shall.

---


We are well and truly f--ked.

52 MarineGrunt  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:32:42pm

re: #40 redc1c4

LOL
We do run a tight ship here, but lately some of us have being getting a little too tight.

53 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:36:56pm

re: #48 Mel Lono

just loaded up Cortez the Killer, but I give.

i'll give too: Trader Joes has Gosling Gold rum on sale @ $10/bottle.

tasty stuff, you can drink it like scotch.

54 Mel Lono  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:39:31pm

re: #53 redc1c4

Dude.. been there. Good buy for Jamaican Rum.

55 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:39:38pm

re: #52 MarineGrunt

LOL
We do run a tight ship here, but lately some of us have being getting a little too tight.

i'm old school Cav... as long as i can hit a target and mount up, i'm fit for duty.

56 TheMatrix31  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:40:12pm

Is there ANY way we can fast forward the next 4 years?

57 gmsc  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:40:45pm

re: #52 MarineGrunt

LOL
We do run a tight ship here, but lately some of us have being getting a little too tight.

I can just picture the crew of a tight ship - starting with Captain Morgan . . .

58 gmsc  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:41:02pm

re: #56 TheMatrix31

Is there ANY way we can fast forward the next 4 years?

TiVoBaMa?

59 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:41:14pm

re:

60 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:41:58pm

re: #56 TheMatrix31

Is there ANY way we can fast forward the next 4 years?

more rum?

61 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:43:01pm

re: #58 gmsc

TiVoBaMa?

after it edited out all the bullshit and advertisements, it'd be all blank.

62 TheMatrix31  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:43:44pm

re: #58 gmsc

TiVoBaMa?

LOL. Love it!

63 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:43:46pm

re: #57 gmsc

I can just picture the crew of a tight ship - starting with Captain Morgan . . .

and a Grey Goose on the bowsprit!

64 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:44:12pm

re: #60 redc1c4

Mostly lurking here and ready to hit the hay (I have the flu or something). Did you make it to the Ace get together?

65 mean Gene  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:44:30pm

Was KRAUTHAMMER serious or facetious when he said this about the one?

What is interesting is the fact that he would want to do this. And you see that since his election he has kind of reached out to people that may not be ideological allies, to Rick Warren, the pastor who will be at his inaugural, to John McCain, whom he has treated with a lot of dignity and respect, and to a bunch of right wing columnists last night, in part, because I think he is a guy who is intellectually curious and wants to exchange ideas, but also in part he wants to co-opt the vast right wing conspiracy.
And I'm here to tell you that, speaking for myself, he has succeeded. I am brainwashed entirely. I'm in the tank, and I am a believer of hope and change and, above all, audacity.


[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

66 mean Gene  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:46:17pm

re: #53 redc1c4

i'll give too: Trader Joes has Gosling Gold rum on sale @ $10/bottle.

tasty stuff, you can drink it like scotch.

They've got some really smooth vodka, too.
Goes down just like water!
Great for making Vodka Pasta Sauce, too.

67 gmsc  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:47:20pm

re: #57 gmsc

I can just picture the crew of a tight ship - starting with Captain Morgan . . .

re: #63 redc1c4

and a Grey Goose on the bowsprit!

Calico Jack? Coconut Jack? Today we sail from Parrot Bay in our Cutty Sark, to Finlandia! Being pirates, we won't need a Passport, but we will need to make sure and set a heading of 44 North . . .

68 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:49:55pm

re: #64 Pvt Bin Jammin

Mostly lurking here and ready to hit the hay (I have the flu or something). Did you make it to the Ace get together?

from what i 'member... yes. %-)

small turn out, noisy club, at least after awhile, but genuinely nice folxs.

we may do a get together at FOB DeDe late spring/early summer, 'cause we have a pool and i can cook BBQ.

we'll see: it may just have been the booze talking.

get some zinc lozenges tomorrow am and use as directed, they really *do* help. if you need homemade soup, call me and i'll make it.

69 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:52:25pm

re: #66 mean Gene

They've got some really smooth vodka, too.
Goes down just like water!
Great for making Vodka Pasta Sauce, too.

(somebody get the rope...)

you use vodka in a sauce, instead of to *get* sauced?

keelhaul him!

/arrrgh!
(parrot shit everywhere %-)

70 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:53:29pm

re: #68 redc1c4

from what i 'member... yes. %-)

small turn out, noisy club, at least after awhile, but genuinely nice folxs.

we may do a get together at FOB DeDe late spring/early summer, 'cause we have a pool and i can cook BBQ.

we'll see: it may just have been the booze talking.

get some zinc lozenges tomorrow am and use as directed, they really *do* help. if you need homemade soup, call me and i'll make it.

Thanks. I am using the Zicam...thanks for reminding me. Glad you checked it out. If you host it, let me know, we could contribute. We had a great time at the Bat Mitzvah. Dennis Prager was there at the ceremony. The evening party was on west Sunset, very posh. We had a good time.

71 redc1c4  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:54:35pm

re: #67 gmsc

Calico Jack? Coconut Jack? Today we sail from Parrot Bay in our Cutty Sark, to Finlandia! Being pirates, we won't need a Passport, but we will need to make sure and set a heading of 44 North . . .

just stay on the jim beam, or we'll all be in the Jack, Mr. Daniels. and stay lively, cause Johnny's a walker and sure to catch you if your luffing off a bit.

72 Macker  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:55:15pm

re: #47 stevieray

If it's still something which can kill the Alpha Qs, we should take it! No need to weaponize.

73 TnTx13  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:55:16pm

re: #65 mean Gene

Was KRAUTHAMMER serious or facetious when he said this about the one?


[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

Fear not - he was definitely being facetious. I saw the panel when he said it, and there was a twinkle in his eye...

74 MarineGrunt  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:56:15pm

re: #56 TheMatrix31

As long as the horse stays sober.

re: #56 TheMatrix31

The O will make sure that the ships crew will be real tight when he takes over.

75 Bosch Fawstin  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:56:31pm

Latest Pigman: Armed Force

76 TnTx13  Sun, Jan 18, 2009 11:56:35pm

re: #24 MrPaulRevere

I found this over at Ace's place, I got a giggle out of it. Language warning and all of that... [Link: ace.mu.nu...]

Thanks - that was hysterical!

77 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:00:14am

Nite, lizards. Take care.

78 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:00:31am

Wow- I so called an Arizona/Pittsburgh superbowl this time last week. Too bad I didn't have the chutzpah to put any money on it...

79 gmsc  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:02:54am

re: #77 Pvt Bin Jammin

Nite, lizards. Take care.

Good night, PBJ!

(Now I'm hungry for a Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwich!)

80 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:04:11am

re: #79 gmsc

Nite. Watch out for that contaminated peanut butter.

81 jcw46  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:05:14am

re: #1 IslandLibertarian

"Tubular"
/is that a shape or a state?

Dude! It's both a shape and a state!

82 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:07:55am

re: #23 solomonpanting What a mena thing to do to the Poor Kitteh Overlord. Naming a Cat after WAB is just wrong.

83 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:09:14am

re: #26 Edouard
So the shape of hope is a pegacorn?

84 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:14:29am

By the way, since the writers of Family Guy and American Dad thought Bush's cocaine problem was so hilarious, I'm sure Barak 0bama's drug habit and boozing while in college won't be considered off-limits either.

/

85 gmsc  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:15:02am

JibJab's review of the year...

...2005

Youtube Video

...2006

Youtube Video

...2007

Youtube Video

...2008

Youtube Video

(Yes, I posted these before, but I'm posting them one last time for anyone who missed them.)

86 MarineGrunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:16:16am
"greenest inauguration in history"

From what I've seen at previous moonbat gatherings, DC will look like the old Fresh Kills Landfill.

87 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:19:20am

re: #82 Rustler

What a mena thing to do to the Poor Kitteh Overlord. Naming a Cat after WAB is just wrong.

true dat... better to hame one after OHB: he's just a pussy.

88 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:22:11am

re: #86 MarineGrunt

From what I've seen at previous moonbat gatherings, DC will look like the old Fresh Kills Landfill.

i just hope it's cold as hell and snows like a Mike Foxtrot.

let's see if idol worship is as strong as being an 0311/11B.

/Harmony Church Rules!

89 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:23:01am

Should I stock up on newspapers with gushing, uncritical above-the-fold headlines delclaring what a historic day it will be this week?

Minimal initial investment, and as long as I sell them before disillusionment sets in, there's profit to be made.

90 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:24:24am

Aw [expletive deleted].

/this will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it

91 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:26:31am

re: #88 redc1c4 You know in reality the clouds will part and a beam of sunlight will illuminate the one as he stands behind the podium. After which they will be a thunderous boom which echoes accross the world heralding the new age which Obama will usher in as all the birds of the sky and beasts of the field acknowledge Obama.

92 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:27:33am

re: #89 Fenway_Nation

Should I stock up on newspapers with gushing, uncritical above-the-fold headlines delclaring what a historic day it will be this week?

Minimal initial investment, and as long as I sell them before disillusionment sets in, there's profit to be made.

i've already recycled the gushing BS that came in the sunday edition this morning.

the only reason to keep one is to call them on the errors, and they will *never* admit those.

93 MarineGrunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:28:40am

re: #88 redc1c4

Freezing rain would be nice, power loss all around.

94 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:28:41am

re: #91 Rustler

Obama will usher in as all the birds of the sky and beasts of the field acknowledge Obama.

Youtube Video

/or something

95 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:28:55am

re: #91 Rustler

You know in reality the clouds will part and a beam of sunlight will illuminate the one as he stands behind the podium. After which they will be a thunderous boom which echoes accross the world heralding the new age which Obama will usher in as all the birds of the sky and beasts of the field acknowledge Obama by shitting on him.

FTFY!
(well, not they typos... %-)

96 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:29:55am

re: #93 MarineGrunt

Freezing rain would be nice, power loss all around.

ice storm maybe?

sleet as a back up?

97 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:30:46am

re: #84 Fenway_Nation

By the way, since the writers of Family Guy and American Dad thought Bush's cocaine problem was so hilarious, I'm sure Barak 0bama's drug habit and boozing while in college won't be considered off-limits either.

/

Haha - don't hold your breath...

98 Edouard  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:32:07am

re: #83 Rustler

So the shape of hope is a pegacorn?

In our country's case, more like a ped-a-corn. Which is what happens when you "change" your shoes and they are too constricting and "tight."

We need a dution, bad, for that ped-a-corn. But I have no idea where to find a dution.

99 gmsc  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:32:43am

re: #97 TnTx13

Haha - don't hold your breath...

My favorite line from the Simpsons:

Marge: "Did you get Waiting To Exhale?"
Homer: "No. They put me on the Waiting To Exhale waiting list, but they said, 'Don't hold your breath.'"

100 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:33:57am

re: #92 redc1c4


Keep? Who said anything about keeping them? Plenty of chumps out there (who vote, unfortunately) who will buy a 35 cent newspaper for $10-$15 if it features their Messiah on the cover.

101 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:36:03am

Hi there Lizards!

I just got finished trying to make sense of the (last) evolution thread. Could somebody who read it or parts of it please explain to me why this one poster kept getting so many down dings? Maybe I'm just tired, but I couldn't figure out how she/he was so objectionable, (I couldn't follow the argument at all). Science is never set in stone. And scientists never say, "We know." They only say "We THINK such and such..." which is annoying as hell but just the way it is, unfortunately. Therefore, can there really be any disagreement? 'Splain me.

102 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:36:14am

BBL all gonna go watch some TV while I prep the receipts and do the books. I'll be back in a few hours when I start prepping the breakfast and wait for folks to check out.

103 MarineGrunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:37:41am

re: #96 redc1c4

There you go.

Slip sliding away.

104 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:38:36am

re: #101 grassrootsrally
The person receiving the downdings was trolling. They wanted to continue insisting Evolution and the creation of life where supposed to be the same thing and made mockery of real science while being unable to back up any of there claims.

105 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:39:08am

re: #104 Rustler
Their claims.

106 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:39:51am

re: #100 Fenway_Nation

Keep? Who said anything about keeping them? Plenty of chumps out there (who vote, unfortunately) who will buy a 35 cent newspaper for $10-$15 if it features their Messiah on the cover.

more power to ya...

107 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:40:45am

Plus the person in question was just asking hte same questions answered in other ID threads hundreds upon hundreds of times.

108 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:41:29am

re: #104 Rustler

Could be, I am amazed!

109 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:41:32am

re: #90 Killian Bundy

I remember a couple of cryptic, ominous-looking billboards along I-91 reading 'The Hunt Begins This March' back in the day...

110 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:41:35am

Hey Everybody!

This is one week were I am thrilled to be living in Australia.

TV Schedules:
Australia: Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis, Obamanation, Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis, replay Obamanation,Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis

USA: Obamanation, Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation

111 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:42:17am

Obama To Repeal Military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Policy

/welcome to Europe

112 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:42:24am

re: #107 Rustler

Oh, okay...a troll. Sure does wreck a perfectly good discussion!

113 MarineGrunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:42:40am

And the Lord said, let there be light.

114 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:43:46am

re: #112 grassrootsrally

They all do. I think some are just looking for as many down dings as possible. looking for that infamous record.

115 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:43:52am

re: #101 grassrootsrally

Hi there Lizards!

I just got finished trying to make sense of the (last) evolution thread. Could somebody who read it or parts of it please explain to me why this one poster kept getting so many down dings? Maybe I'm just tired, but I couldn't figure out how she/he was so objectionable, (I couldn't follow the argument at all). Science is never set in stone. And scientists never say, "We know." They only say "We THINK such and such..." which is annoying as hell but just the way it is, unfortunately. Therefore, can there really be any disagreement? 'Splain me.

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Registered since: Dec 25, 2008 at 2:57 pm
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clueless newbie or gamey buttocks?

116 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:43:54am

re: #110 little blessing

That's okay, mate, we have some good books I plan to read. LOL

117 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:44:01am

re: #106 redc1c4

These fuckers owe me. They're trying to kill our country and electing this vacuous used-car salesman if the first step...

118 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:44:35am

re: #107 Rustler

Plus the person in question was just asking hte same questions answered in other ID threads hundreds upon hundreds of times.

hit this questioner's link...

119 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:45:13am

re: #116 grassrootsrally

Silver Linings!

120 freedomplow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:46:42am

While it is admirable that Obama's favorite President is Abraham Lincoln, it is not Obama's right to covet Abraham Lincoln's legacy.

I am a Republican because of Abraham Lincoln.


Abraham Lincoln (February 12, 1809 – April 15, 1865), the sixteenth President of the United States, successfully led the country through its greatest internal crisis, the American Civil War, preserving the Union and ending slavery.

I would hope that people directly and indirectly affiliated with the GOP start pointing this remarkable fact out soon.

121 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:47:13am

Very quiet in here tonight. Anybody feel like chatting?

122 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:47:44am

re: #110 little blessing

Hey Everybody!

This is one week were I am thrilled to be living in Australia.

TV Schedules:
Australia: Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis, Obamanation, Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis, replay Obamanation,Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis, Aussie Open Tennis

USA: Obamanation, Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation Obamanation

my TV has a power switch, so it doesn't go on until i tell it to.

BTW: a massive "woo-hoo" to the Digger who received the VC for actions in the 'Stan... he'll never buy a beer if i'm in the AO.

123 gmsc  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:48:44am

re: #113 MarineGrunt

And the Lord said, let there be light.

...and god said... (Schrödinger Wave Equation) ...and there was light!


"In the beginning, there was nothing. And god said, 'Let there be light!', and there was still nothing. But you could see it!"

124 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:49:03am

re: #115 redc1c4
just clueless about science debate at LGF...
no nervous sheep around here!

125 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:49:10am

re: #121 little blessing

Very quiet in here tonight. Anybody feel like chatting?

thought we were... besides, i'd ruin you for normal men. %-)

/white smoke

126 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:49:59am

re: #101 grassrootsrally

Songbird, one of the most innocent, innocuous Lizards you'll ever run across, got a first comment on an ID thread. Posted the equivalent of "put all the information out there, let the consumer decide". Utter blasphemy, tantamount to sedition

/immediately jumped on for -16 karma (at last check)

127 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:50:22am

re: #122 redc1c4

He's a lucky boy...but well deserving. It was nice to have a VC awarded to a soldier who is still alive. His response to how he felt after receiving the VC was, I'm ready to go back.

A real Hero.

/what about my beer tab?

128 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:51:14am

re: #125 redc1c4

That's a favourite of yours!

/matcho, matcho

129 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:51:52am

re: #126 Killian Bundy

roflmao! You are an old soul! Thanks! Non-scientists speaking of science, I thought so!

130 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:52:07am

Rep. John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, announced Friday he wants to set up a commission to look into whether the Bush administration broke the law by taking the nation to war against Iraq and instituting aggressive anti-terror initiatives. The Michigan Democrat called for an "independent criminal probe into whether any laws were broken in connection with these activities."

or as I hear it..."Hey gang, lets start a Civil War!"

131 MarineGrunt  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:52:20am

re: #123 gmsc

That's above my pay grade.

132 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:52:40am

re: #121 little blessing

Sure!

133 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:53:40am

re: #124 grassrootsrally

just clueless about science debate at LGF...
no nervous sheep around here!

science is science. belief is belief.

those that can keep the two separated have no problem. those that get confused, usually get the stick.

it's simple.

134 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:54:31am

re: #133 redc1c4

Very nice summation.

135 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:54:37am

re: #130 IslandLibertarian

The Michigan Democrat called for an "independent criminal probe into whether any laws were broken in connection with these activities

Ah yes- the immoral, unjust and illegal war that the donks voted in favor of.

136 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:54:53am

What movies would you recommend people watch instead of all the replays of the coronat.. oops I meant the

137 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:56:00am

re: #130 IslandLibertarian

Rep. John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, announced Friday he wants to set up a commission to look into whether the Bush administration broke the law by taking the nation to war against Iraq and instituting aggressive anti-terror initiatives. The Michigan Democrat called for an "independent criminal probe into whether any laws were broken in connection with these activities."

or as I hear it..."Hey gang, lets start a Civil War!"

I have a very bad feeling that the next four years will feature continued episodes of BDS - especially any time something goes wrong for the Messiah. After all, EVERYTHING is George Bush's fault!

/sarcasm

138 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:56:03am

re: #128 little blessing

That's a favourite of yours!

/matcho, matcho

mostly 'cause it's true... and i can provide 3rd party testimony.

139 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:57:20am

By the way, IslandLibertarian- where exactly was it on the islands that Teleprompter Jesus stayed while he visited his manger during his birthday Christmas? I don't think the MSM ever got more specific than 'O'ahu'...

140 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:57:55am

re: #136 little blessing

You'll find something. Maybe a Stephen King?

141 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:58:35am

Morning Lizards. I think Ace pretty much sums it up for me. Ace

142 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:58:47am

re: #136 little blessing

Don't know what happened to the rest. I'll start again.

What movies would you recommend people watch in order to avoid the Obamacoronation Situation, that are educational/historical not just entertaining!

I recommend 1776.

143 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:58:48am

re: #127 little blessing

He's a lucky boy...but well deserving. It was nice to have a VC awarded to a soldier who is still alive. His response to how he felt after receiving the VC was, I'm ready to go back.

A real Hero.

/what about my beer tab?

i'll be happy to add to it... whatda'ya got behind the bar?

144 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:28am

re: #130 IslandLibertarian

Rep. John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, announced Friday he wants to set up a commission to look into whether the Bush administration broke the law by taking the nation to war against Iraq and instituting aggressive anti-terror initiatives. The Michigan Democrat called for an "independent criminal probe into whether any laws were broken in connection with these activities."

or as I hear it..."Hey gang, lets start a Civil War!"

And so it begins, does the name Stalin come to mind, and the word purge. Mr. Conyers do you have any shit in your closet? Inquiring minds want to know.

145 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:59:48am

re: #134 BlueCanuck

Very nice summation.

we try...
it's a good change from the wise ass mode to throw off the pursuit. %-)

146 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:00:36am

re: #129 grassrootsrally

roflmao! You are an old soul! Thanks! Non-scientists speaking of science, I thought so!

In her next comment, she tried to clarify her first comment, as if that was necessary.

/took another negative double digits worth of karma and gave up trying to comment on that thread

147 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:00:43am

re: #143 redc1c4

Whatever happened to boy pays for girl?

148 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:01:13am

re: #136 little blessing

What movies would you recommend people watch instead of all the replays of the coronat.. oops I meant the

GRAN TORINO!

149 TheMatrix31  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:01:43am

re: #141 Erik The Red

Morning Lizards. I think Ace pretty much sums it up for me. Ace

Best (or worst) picture ever.

150 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:02:06am

re: #146 Killian Bundy

Seems to be three maroons/morons on that thread. Love when the herd is thinned . . .

151 IslandLibertarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:02:21am

re: #139 Fenway_Nation
Kailua, Oahu, just over the mountain from Honolulu.
He stayed well hidden in his beachfront compound. Not a local boy any more. An elite visitor now.

152 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:02:25am

re: #147 little blessing

Whatever happened to boy pays for girl?

2 things:
1. Women's Rights
2. I gave my wife access to all my guns. %-)

153 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:02:56am

re: #147 little blessing

The Femnazis drove a stake through that piece of etiquette.

/Then there's red.
//white smoke

154 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:03:14am

re: #152 redc1c4

2 things:
1. Women's Rights
2. I gave my wife access to all my guns. %-)

3. The vice squad...

155 restitutor orbis  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:03:29am

The nuts seem to be in a tizzy over this Lowry guy thats supposed to give the benediction. I think we will see a final orgy of Bush hate and self loathing manifest itself at the actual inauguration. Only it will be masked with praise for the Obamessiah.
You know, a "for a warmongering country born of genocide and built on the backs of slaves, we have sure come a long way" kind of thing.

Another question...when celebs are cheerleading our inevitable intervention in Africa, (Darfur leading the list, but be prepared for Somalia part deux) will we be able to call them chickenhawks?

156 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:03:39am

Anyone watching Fox News and Geraldo at the Latino Inaugural Ball? I didn't realize The Messiah was Latino ;)

157 gmsc  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:04:10am

re: #147 little blessing

Whatever happened to boy pays for girl?

In most places in the US, that's illegal. Although, from here in Vegas, if you go over to Nye County . . .

158 traderjoe9  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:04:44am

re: #148 redc1c4

GRAN TORINO!

I'm going to see that tomorrow...Eastwood looked awesome in the previews.

159 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:04:52am

re: #157 gmsc

In most places in the US, that's illegal. Although, from here in Vegas, if you go over to Nye County . . .

ROFL

160 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:04:53am

re: #151 IslandLibertarian

Two questions-

A) How much you think that Real Estate is worth that the 0bama compound is on?

B) Do you think it cost more than some new blouses the GOP got for Sarah Palin?

161 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:05:29am

re: #157 gmsc

UPDING!

162 Edouard  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:05:48am

re: #136 little blessing

What movies would you recommend people watch instead of all the replays of the coronat..

"Pennies from Heaven" seems appropriate

163 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:05:56am

re: #160 Fenway_Nation

Two questions-

A) How much you think that Real Estate is worth that the 0bama compound is on?

B) Do you think it cost more than some new blouses the GOP got for Sarah Palin?

Yup...

164 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:06:27am

re: #150 BlueCanuck

Seems to be three maroons/morons on that thread. Love when the herd is thinned . . .

/if LGFer Songbird is a maroon/moron then we're all pretty much [expletive deleted]

165 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:06:49am

re: #142 little blessing

Tale of Two Cities is fairly historical/educational. Choices and decisions, power and glory!

166 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:07:01am

Hamas declares "great victory" after Israeli cease-fire


Now who didn't see that coming?

167 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:08:01am

re: #154 Dustyvet

3. The vice squad...

they don't investigate justifiable homicides...

and no jury of her peers would convict her.

168 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:08:15am

re: #166 Dustyvet

Uhhh, Israel?

/sometimes I wonder

169 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:08:56am

re: #167 redc1c4

they don't investigate justifiable homicides...

and no jury of her peers would convict her.

Otays...:)

170 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:11:17am

re: #164 Killian Bundy

/if LGFer Songbird is a maroon/moron then we're all pretty much [expletive deleted]

No, not songbird. Braddock, Davehm, and gedalyia were the ones I was talking about. Don't know if they are still around or not, but they seemed to be getting on everyones nerves.

171 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:11:36am

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Fox News Sunday says she's open to the idea of prosecuting Bush administration officials.

Somebody get this witch a broom...

172 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:11:44am

re: #158 traderjoe9

I'm going to see that tomorrow...Eastwood looked awesome in the previews.

massively outstanding movie: Sergio would be proud of his student.

just be advised that you will get something in your eyes before the credits.

173 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:11:59am

Actually, little blessing, a damn mediocre rendition of "Julius Caesar" by William Shakespeare would make me feel much better than most of those DC attendees will feel. And thanks for getting me thinking about these alternative dramas!

174 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:12:36am

re: #171 Dustyvet

Would rather drop a house on her. Maybe then we munchkins would get a break from her.

/anyone have the red shoes?

175 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:13:00am

re: #171 Dustyvet

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Fox News Sunday says she's open to the idea of prosecuting Bush administration officials.

Somebody get this witch a broom...

how about a bucket of water?

176 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:13:04am

re: #173 grassrootsrally

Actually, little blessing, a damn mediocre rendition of "Julius Caesar" by William Shakespeare would make me feel much better than most of those DC attendees will feel. And thanks for getting me thinking about these alternative dramas!

Hmmm the ides of March...nah skip it...

177 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:13:34am

re: #175 redc1c4

how about a bucket of water?

I was getting there...:)

178 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:14:49am

re: #177 Dustyvet

I was getting there...:)

Youtube Video
179 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:15:12am

some inconsiderate asshat finished the rum so i'm headed for bed...

enjoy the fruitcup tonight.

hasta, y'all...

L8r!

180 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:16:44am

re: #179 redc1c4

Nite, Red!

Thanks for the laughs.

181 Smilla  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:16:53am

Anti-semitism alert: a nasty anti-Israel piece published in a major Melbourne newspaper in Australia by a Michael Blackman, who seems to have written only about business in Asia before, linked here to his website after the newspaper pulled the column in the face of blistering criticism.

Some of that criticism by award-winning journalist Caroline Overington in a rival newspaper here. Feel free to join in the debate, fellow Lizards, if you are so inclined.

182 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:16:59am

re: #176 Dustyvet

Lust for power will always be with us. It's somewhat of a comfort, not?

183 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:18:14am

The real reason Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich

Still, it would have been a refreshing change from the usual confirmation minuet if instead of humbly apologizing, Holder had tartly instructed the buffoonish Specter, his fellow senators, the press, and the public about the actual circumstances of the Rich affair. He might have started with the fact that continuous lobbying on Rich's behalf from the highest Israeli leaders and their American friends -- among whom Specter no doubt counts himself -- became even more intense in the days before Clinton left office. He could have noted that such pressures coincided with Clinton's efforts to conclude a peace agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians. And he could have explained to Specter that Rich's deals in Iran and Iraq were often related to his other role -- as an asset of the Mossad who gathered intelligence and helped to rescue endangered Jews from those regimes.

Came across this two days ago and there's a lot more of this out there. WTF?

/is Marc Rich the poster boy of criminal scum, former #2 on the FBI most wanted list, or a Zionist superhero?

184 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:18:50am

re: #182 grassrootsrally

Lust for power will always be with us. It's somewhat of a comfort, not?

What I get for lusting for the rent money and groceries?...wink...;)

185 redc1c4  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:20:28am

re: #177 Dustyvet

I was getting there...:)

i'm your vehicle...

/white smoke

186 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:24:23am

re: #181 Smilla

The Jewish Community Council of Victoria wrote a five page response to the article but I can't seem to link it for some reason.

187 Smilla  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:26:30am

re: #186 little blessing

The Jewish Community Council of Victoria wrote a five page response to the article but I can't seem to link it for some reason.

Are you going to post a response too?

188 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:26:34am

re: #186 little blessing

Correction: 2 Page response

Opening Paragraph:

John Searle, president of the Jewish Community Council of Victoria (JCCV), and Dr Danny Lamm, president of the Zionist Council of Victoria (ZCV), today jointly called on Melbourne’s The Age to apologise for publishing a blatantly antisemitic article (attached) in the Saturday Age yesterday.
Searle and Lamm stated:
“Sometimes criticism of Israeli foreign policy becomes so irrational and so hate-filled that it spills over into antisemitism. Yesterday Saturday’s Age (17/01) published such a piece wherein its columnist Michael Backman encapsulated centuries of hate speech against Jews in a few hundred words.
189 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:28:26am

re: #187 Smilla

That would be as affective as a minnow convincing a shark that dry land is the place to be.

190 Smilla  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:29:03am

re: #189 little blessing

That would be as affective as a minnow convincing a shark that dry land is the place to be.

You give up too easily!

191 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:30:16am

re: #190 Smilla

Not necessarily. However, as a teacher, I don't waste my words. Something has to come out of it.

/I can smell the rot through the computer screen

192 Smilla  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:33:28am

re: #191 little blessing

Not necessarily. However, as a teacher, I don't waste my words. Something has to come out of it.

/I can smell the rot through the computer screen

193 Smilla  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:34:47am

Lost half my typing: I belive that views such as Blackman's must not go unchallenged. The more people who condemn his anti-Semitism, the more likely some of his readers will reconsider, even though he may be a lost cause!

194 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:37:53am

re: #193 Smilla

Smilla,
Have you read some of those comments on Caroline's blog?

Pure drivel. I make my views known the way it counts.

1. I Vote
2. I Donate
3. I Educate the next generation
4. I protest in person when necessary

I don't disagree that challenging these people is important but there are plenty of people who will argue Israel's case from behind their screens but not when it counts. I'll leave this to them.

195 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:38:47am

re: #183 Killian Bundy
A little of both?

196 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:41:24am

Geraldo interviewing celebutards after the Lincoln Memorial concert . .

American wanted a change, a new beginning,people are excited, a new journey, restoring America's respect around the world, getting America's economy back on track, focusing on the issues that bring us together, not divide us, you can cut the exhilaration with a knife

/two days until the massive, ugly hangover

197 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:43:50am

re: #196 Killian Bundy

/Should I get the tomato juice mixture ready?

198 calendar  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:46:51am

De Vere wrote the Shake-speare plays. Learn of his life, and they will take shape.

199 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:47:26am

re: #196 Killian Bundy

American wanted a change, a new beginning,people are excited, a new journey, restoring America's respect around the world, getting America's economy back on track, focusing on the issues that bring us together, not divide us, you can cut the exhilaration excrement with a knife

Fixed that for ya.

200 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:47:33am

re: #197 little blessing

/Should I get the tomato juice mixture ready?

/don't forget the tabasco sauce and the celery

201 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:48:17am

re: #200 Killian Bundy

We'll need storehouses of that stuff.

202 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:49:40am

re: #201 little blessing

We'll need storehouses of that stuff.

What the devil are you two making...:)

203 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:51:40am

re: #202 Dustyvet

What the devil are you two making...:)


(looks around innocently)

Who, us?

Just a little something to get us through the week after we drain the taverns.

/If they stay open

204 Smilla  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:52:22am

re: #194 little blessing

Smilla,
Have you read some of those comments on Caroline's blog?

Pure drivel. I make my views known the way it counts.

1. I Vote
2. I Donate
3. I Educate the next generation
4. I protest in person when necessary

I don't disagree that challenging these people is important but there are plenty of people who will argue Israel's case from behind their screens but not when it counts. I'll leave this to them.

That's the problem. "The best lack all conviction and the worst are full of passionate intensity" as Yeats said. Get in there and fight for what is right!

205 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:53:28am

re: #166 Dustyvet

Hamas declares "great victory" after Israeli cease-fire

Now who didn't see that coming?

Look at this shi'ite that Nahamet's pumping:

* Abu Obeida: The (Israeli) occupation destroyed 23 Mosques claiming that they were used for storing arms, and this claim is false.
* Abu Obeida: What the enemy promoted in terms of arresting Qassam Brigades Mujahedeen is pure fiction.
* Abu Obeida: War cannot be measured by counting losses. War is measured by counting achievements.
* Abu Obeida: The Israeli occupation failed in destroying Hamas’ overwhelming power.
* Abu Obeida: The enemy only achieved fictitious victories from its war on Gaza.
* Abu Obeida: Our rocket firepower remains unaffected following the Israeli war on Gaza.
* Abu Obeida: Israel only reaped a new record of group massacres in Gaza.
* Abu Obeida: We have captured a number of Zionist soldiers and some have died resulting from Israeli air raids.
* Abu Obeida: We fired 900 Qassam rockets and shells.
* Abu Obeida: Enemy suffered no less that 80 dead in addition to many wounded.
* Abu Obeida: The victims of this war amounted to over 3300 most of whom were children and women.
* Abu Obeida: 48 Ezz Eddine al qassam members were killed confronting the enemy in Gaza.
* Qassam Brigades Spokesman Abu Obeida: What the enemy massed is enough to conquer many cities.

Olmert, I'm afraid, may have just set Israel on a course of imminent national suicide with this unilateral ceasefire and Obummer coming into office.

206 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:53:51am

re: #203 little blessing

(looks around innocently)

Who, us?

Just a little something to get us through the week after we drain the taverns.

/If they stay open

Oh got it...:)

207 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:53:59am

re: #204 Smilla

Pass the beers.

/then we'll see

208 tappin52  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:54:26am

re: #147 little blessing

Whatever happened to boy pays for girl?

Gloria Stienem and Betty Freedan.

209 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:56:21am

re: #147 little blessing

Whatever happened to boy pays for girl?

re: #208 tappin52

Gloria Stienem and Betty Freedan.

Is that the names of the two new call girls at The Bunny Ranch !?!?!?!

210 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:59:15am

re: #202 Dustyvet

What the devil are you two making...:)

Bloody Mary

Here's the classic Bloody Mary recipe. Enjoy!

1 1/2 ounces (1 jigger) vodka
1/2 cup tomato juice
2 teaspoons fresh lemon juice
Worcestershire sauce to taste
Tabasco to taste
1 celery stick for garnish
1 lemon wedge for garnish

Combine the vodka, the tomato juice, the lemon juice, the Worcestershire sauce, the Tabasco, 1 cup ice cubes, and salt and pepper to taste, shake the mixture well, and strain it into a tall glass filled with ice cubes. Garnish the Bloody Mary with the celery stick and the lemon wedge.

/God help our civilization

211 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:59:21am

Tomato is a fruit, isn't it? Does a Bloody Mary count as Fruitcup?

212 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:00:05am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

213 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:00:55am

re: #212 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Morning lol. Thanks for fruitcup.

214 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:00:57am

re: #211 Fenway_Nation

Tomato is a fruit, isn't it? Does a Bloody Mary count as Fruitcup?

I once dated a tomato that was kinky ,,, does that count?

215 gmsc  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:01:52am

re: #208 tappin52

Gloria Stienem and Betty Freedan.

Ever see the episode of Futurama where Nixon's head is aslep in the Watergate ("Why would Nixon stay at the Watergate?" - "They give you a discount if you've been here before!")? He's talking in his sleep, and at one point he says, "Hey, Betty Freedan, send a little of that lotion my way! Boy, you women's libbers really know how to party."

216 gmsc  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:02:03am

re: #212 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Yummy!

217 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:02:14am

re: #212 littleoldlady

Thanks for fruitcup, Littleoldlady.

/What will happen on Monday Night?

218 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:08am

re: #212 littleoldlady

Must...nourish...myself...before...invasive...vomit-inducing...MSM coverage...of...0bama's...coronation.

219 gmsc  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:28am

re: #217 little blessing

Thanks for fruitcup, Littleoldlady.

/What will happen on Monday Night?

We get fruitcup while the dems drink the Flavr-Aid.

220 tappin52  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:03:57am

re: #209 sattv4u2
You mean the wrinkly, nasty ones?

221 TheMatrix31  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:04:43am

LOL @ Yahoo's main headline...

"May be the costliest ever..."

MAY BE?

222 tappin52  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:05:20am

re: #215 gmsc

LOL.

223 gmsc  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:06:32am

re: #221 TheMatrix31

LOL @ Yahoo's main headline...

"May be the costliest ever..."

MAY BE?

But it's OK, because it's a Democrat being inaugurated.

NYT's Inauguration Hypocrisy: Bush Chided in 2005, but Obama Free to Party

224 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:06:53am

Erik! :-)

gmsc! :-)

Fenway! :-)

little blessing! :-)

I Had A Dream [Heh™] that Obama actually did perform a miracle...

Not too far into his administration he a made a lot of people miss George W. Bush.

225 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:06:56am

re: #221 TheMatrix31

LOL @ Yahoo's main headline...

"May be the costliest ever..."

MAY BE?


Is the MSM talking about the innauguration coronation or Sarah Palin's wardrobe?

226 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:07:53am

Good morning littleoldlady. Always good to see you in the morning.

227 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:08:37am

BlueCanuck! :-)

228 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:09:03am

re: #212 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

(((Lady)))

Pppporky pppig...

Youtube Video
229 grassrootsrally  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:09:19am

Take care every1! Later alligators, you are the Best Lizards!

To: Killian, little blessing, dustyvet...it's been "real"!

230 gmsc  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:09:51am

Well, I've got to grab my fruitcup and go. Good night, fellow lizards!

231 TheMatrix31  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:09:58am

re: #225 Fenway_Nation

Is the MSM talking about the innauguration coronation or Sarah Palin's wardrobe?

Obviously for the coronation, because if it was about Palin's wardrobe, the words "may be" wouldn't be used.

232 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:10:17am

re: #229 grassrootsrally

Take care every1! Later alligators, you are the Best Lizards!

To: Killian, little blessing, dustyvet...it's been "real"!

Waving bye...:)

233 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:11:03am

Dusty Vet! :-)

OHHH! Cartoons! :-)

234 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:11:06am

re: #221 TheMatrix31

I will never forget Clinton's Inauguration (first time). I grew up very sheltered. I was in Middle-school and our Social Studies teacher was explaining what happened during the Inauguration and all about the Inauguration Ball and after parties. She also spent some time talking about how much it would cost.

I raised my hand. When called upon, I asked. "if it cost so much, why does the president need to spend so much on his balls?"

The class went silent. Everyone looked at me. The teacher burst out laughing and the entire class joined in, except me.

"what did I say?"

235 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:12:31am

re: #233 littleoldlady

Dusty Vet! :-)

OHHH! Cartoons! :-)

Youtube Video
236 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:13:14am

re: #120 freedomplow I'm just wondering "How long until Obama adopts a Lincoln style beard?" Since Obama wants to portray himself as the new age lincoln and all. Back for a minute just to peek at what has happened in last hour.

237 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:14:04am

re: #36 Buster Bunny

ooh ooh .. revenge comes from all sorts of places !

Al Qaeda vs Black Death ... guess who wins?

turns out playing with biogenic warfare may just not be as cool as they think.

Carried by rats, appropriately enough. Bring out yer dead!

238 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:14:19am

re: #223 gmsc

But it's OK, because it's a Democrat being inaugurated.

NYT's Inauguration Hypocrisy: Bush Chided in 2005, but Obama Free to Party

And in 2005 the economy was good, and now not so much. What are the chances that some of the legions of zombie 0bamunists that stumble around chanting "change... change..." might actually get a slight glimmer or flash of common sense and think perhaps this huge, costly and totally unnecessary party in the middle of a bad recession of is in really bad taste?

239 tappin52  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:14:45am

I have to say that I just do not get this national swoonfest over Obama. It seems to me to be an "irrational exuberance" that he will never be able to sustain. I understand the partying after the election, okay, their guy won and they celebrated. But the non stop group adulation along with renaming schools, roads and buildings, the commemorative plates and coins marketing... it is eerily creepy and I just cannot get how so many people can be so overcome with emotion over this man who has yet to accomplish anything.

240 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:15:06am

re: #220 tappin52

You mean the wrinkly, nasty ones?

Hey ,,,they're cheap, but they're also gross!

241 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:15:46am

Doom Watch:
A little less than 31 hours till the Coronation.

242 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:18:43am

re: #236 Rustler

I'm just wondering "How long until Obama adopts a Lincoln style beard?"

[Expletive deleted] the beard.

/if he really wants to be Lincoln, HE HAS TO WEAR THE LINCOLN HAT!

243 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:18:47am

re: #224 littleoldlady

Erik! :-)

gmsc! :-)

Fenway! :-)

little blessing! :-)

I Had A Dream [Heh™] that Obama actually did perform a miracle...

Not too far into his administration he a made a lot of people miss George W. Bush.

I already do miss him...(sniff)

244 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:20:50am

re: #243 TnTx13

I already do miss him...(sniff)

I Had A Dream [Heh™] that Obama actually did perform a miracle...

The miracle I dream of...

He's out on his ass in 2012...

245 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:22:55am

re: #242 Killian Bundy

[Expletive deleted] the beard.

/if he really wants to be Lincoln, HE HAS TO WEAR THE LINCOLN HAT!

And it's only $6.95...:)

246 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:23:07am

re: #241 Shiplord Kirel

31 Hours until dissent is no longer patriotic.

247 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:23:08am

re: #244 Dustyvet

I Had A Dream [Heh™] that Obama actually did perform a miracle...

The miracle I dream of...

He's out on his ass in 2012...

We can only HOPE&trade

248 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:23:52am

re: #235 Dustyvet

Both great! (Especially the first one.) Thanks! :-)

249 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:30am

re: #237 Shiplord Kirel

Shiplord! :-)

It's like Mars Attacks. ;-)

250 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:24:39am

re: #247 TnTx13

We can only HOPE™

Hey, I'm also holding out for impeachment, but only if Biden goes too...

251 Buster Bunny  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:07am

re: #244 Dustyvet

I Had A Dream [Heh™] that Obama actually did perform a miracle...

The miracle I dream of...

He's out on his ass in 2012...

By that stage we will need another movie star who has worked with a monkey in front of the camera for president.

Its your turn ... Jim Carey

252 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:12am

re: #245 Dustyvet

And it's only $6.95...:)

BUT WAIT! If you order right now, we'll also include ,,,

253 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:17am

re: #248 littleoldlady

Both great! (Especially the first one.) Thanks! :-)

welcome...:)

254 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:25:55am

re: #252 sattv4u2

BUT WAIT! If you order right now, we'll also include ,,,

a Snuggie...:)

255 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:26:03am

re: #239 tappin52

I have to say that I just do not get this national swoonfest over Obama. It seems to me to be an "irrational exuberance" that he will never be able to sustain. I understand the partying after the election, okay, their guy won and they celebrated. But the non stop group adulation along with renaming schools, roads and buildings, the commemorative plates and coins marketing... it is eerily creepy and I just cannot get how so many people can be so overcome with emotion over this man who has yet to accomplish anything.

They started selling the ridiculous coins and plates in the name of 'President' Obama right after the election. And then I was at Wally World late last night and saw the posters they're selling...

256 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:27:12am

Significant donars to the Coronation ceremony George Soros, Spielberg, Halle Berry, Citigroup, Lehman brothers, Wachovia.

257 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:27:45am

re: #251 Buster Bunny

By that stage we will need another movie star who has worked with a monkey in front of the camera for president.

Its your turn ... Jim Carey

Nope, can't be him. He was born in Canada, and was a Canadian citizen.

/and you guys can keep him as far as I am concerned.

258 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:27:55am

re: #255 TnTx13

They started selling the ridiculous coins and plates in the name of 'President' Obama right after the election. And then I was at Wally World late last night and saw the posters they're selling...

if anybody finds an Obama dart board send me the link please...:)

259 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:28:09am

re: #256 Rustler

Significant donars to the Coronation ceremony George Soros, Spielberg, Halle Berry, Citigroup, Lehman brothers, Wachovia.

Oh, yeah - apparently some of OUR bailout money has gone to pay for the Ascension...

260 akak  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:29:01am
IDF says rocket-fire due to lack of communication between Hamas leaders, fighters.

Now doesn't that make you feel better?

261 Buster Bunny  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:29:13am

Mickey Mouse for president !

People have a good feeling towards him ..
he has appeared on his own currency ..
he's black ..
he's already a rat so he's excused ...

he has lasted longer in copyright than he should have .. which means he also knows how to kick ass with politics !

MICKEY MOUSE FOR PRESIDENT 2012 !
(special VP - Buster Bunny)

262 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:29:21am

I've got to admit that news of the AQ plague outbreak has warmed the cockles of my terrorist hating lizardoid heart.
Callous? Perhaps, but seven and a half years of watching the AQ rats and their media shills in action, sometimes in person, will do that.

Like H.G. Wells's Martians, the AQ rats have fallen victim to the "littlest things that God in his wisdom had put on the Earth,"

In another way, though, it is we who are like the Martians:

"The immediate pressure of necessity has brightened their intellects, enlarged their powers, and hardened their hearts. ..."

263 tappin52  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:29:44am

re: #259 TnTx13

My thoughts, exactly. They are trying to insure that the spigot does not get turned off.

264 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:30:49am

re: #258 Dustyvet
One that says It's time for change with every bull's eye?

265 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:31:00am

re: #258 Dustyvet

if anybody finds an Obama dart board send me the link please...:)

How's this?

266 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:31:18am

re: #264 Rustler

One that says It's time for change with every bull's eye?

That'll work...:)

267 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:31:57am

From Books, New President Found Voice

/PLEASE STOP THE BULL]EXPLETIVE DELETED]!

268 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:32:22am

re: #265 TnTx13

How's this?

Great...:) dang your good...:)

269 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:32:22am

re: #249 littleoldlady

Shiplord! :-)

It's like Mars Attacks. ;-)

Wow! I wrote my #262 before I saw your post.
Perhaps it was the invisible hand of Allah...or someone...that sent the plague.

270 Buster Bunny  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:32:23am

re: #262 Shiplord Kirel

In another way, though, it is we who are like the Martians:

"The immediate pressure of necessity has brightened their intellects, enlarged their powers, and hardened their hearts. ..."

Ok this is gonna get confuzzling ...

Are we martians or earthlings? And if so .. whose side am I fighting on?

And did we win?

271 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:34:07am

re: #261 Buster Bunny

Mickey Mouse for president !

People have a good feeling towards him ..
he has appeared on his own currency ..
he's black ..
he's already a rat so he's excused ...

he has lasted longer in copyright than he should have .. which means he also knows how to kick ass with politics !

MICKEY MOUSE FOR PRESIDENT 2012 !
(special VP - Buster Bunny)

Bravo Bunny...bravo...:)

272 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:34:37am

re: #266 Dustyvet
Here you go. Wait nm thats Osama not Obama :p

273 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:35:02am

re: #270 Buster Bunny

Ok this is gonna get confuzzling ...

Are we martians or earthlings? And if so .. whose side am I fighting on?

And did we win?

Neither, we are lizardoid invaders from the fourth dimension. Didn't you get the briefing? As for Wells, I would rather be the Martians up to the point where they show their profound ignorance of hygiene and food safety.

274 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:35:35am

re: #272 Rustler

Here you go. Wait nm thats Osama not Obama :p

Great one for each wall...:)

275 tappin52  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:36:29am

re: #274 Dustyvet

You only have two walls?

276 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:36:54am

re: #269 Shiplord Kirel

I dunno. I just like the part where their funny heads explode into green goo...

/I used to be a nice girl.
//HONEST!

;-)

277 Buster Bunny  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:37:57am

re: #273 Shiplord Kirel

Neither, we are lizardoid invaders from the fourth dimension. Didn't you get the briefing? As for Wells, I would rather be the Martians up to the point where they show their profound ignorance of hygiene and food safety.

Yeah well .. I better get my zionist lizardoid cheque this week. The price of liloldlady's fruit cup just went up .. and i'm not compromising on that.

278 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:38:40am

re: #275 tappin52

You only have two walls?

three really...:)

279 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:39:00am

re: #274 Dustyvet
How bout one to improve toilet aim.

280 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:39:32am

re: #276 littleoldlady

I dunno. I just like the part where their funny heads explode into green goo...

/I used to be a nice girl.
//HONEST!

;-)

Three..:) it's bonus day for Porky...:)

Youtube Video
281 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:40:13am

re: #267 Killian Bundy

From Books, New President Found Voice

/PLEASE STOP THE BULL]EXPLETIVE DELETED]!

OMG - I read the first couple of paragraphs of that screed and started to feel nauseous. You'd think that no one ever read a book before, no one ever wrote a book before, and my gosh - he's CARRYING a book in a picture! How many pictures did we see of GWB arriving at or leaving the White House with several books in his hands - but how can that be? Certainly Bush couldn't READ!? OK, must get myself under control...

282 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:40:49am

re: #279 Rustler

How bout one to improve toilet aim.

Yucky...bad lady, bad lady...and she scares my cat...:)

283 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:42:25am

re: #282 Dustyvet

Yucky...bad lady, bad lady...and she scares my cat...:)

Tiger hisses at any photo of Hanoi John Kerry...:)

284 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:43:17am

OMG. You love Your candidate now let him love you back no clue why this came up looking for dart boards but funny.

285 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:43:38am

re: #255 TnTx13

They started selling the ridiculous coins and plates in the name of 'President' Obama right after the election. And then I was at Wally World late last night and saw the posters they're selling...

How about some 0bama urinal cakes?

286 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:43:45am

re: #284 Rustler
Well crap doesn't seem to work now.

287 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:44:04am

re: #284 Rustler

OMG. You love Your candidate now let him love you back no clue why this came up looking for dart boards but funny.

Bad linky...:(

288 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:47:33am

None of the secondary links work but heres the page with all the other junk removed. Love your president.

289 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:48:33am

Comes in Dem Blue and Presidential Gold.

290 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:50:20am

re: #285 Fenway_Nation [Link: www.peepeeface.com...]

291 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:51:07am

re: #289 Rustler

Comes in Dem Blue and Presidential Gold.

Barak Obama- hope on a rope soap

/look no further

292 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:53:06am

re: #291 Killian Bundy

Barak Obama- hope on a rope soap

/look no further

Barak Obama- hope on a rope soap, oh that's gross, looks a lot like Alfred E Newman...:)

293 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:53:53am

Found the Homepage for Headostate.

294 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:54:20am

Damn, turn on CNN.

/they're trampling each other trying to win the contest as to who can put on the best televisied Obama inspired masturbation display

295 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:55:10am

re: #294 Killian Bundy

YUCK!

296 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:55:19am

re: #294 Killian Bundy

Damn, turn on CNN.

/they're trampling each other trying to win the contest as to who can put on the best televisied Obama inspired masturbation display

*CRASH*...

297 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:55:50am

re: #294 Killian Bundy


Any survivors?

298 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:55:54am

re: #294 Killian Bundy
Must be using products bought from the link in my 293.

299 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:56:23am

For those of you who voted Democrat and/or for Obama, you can get 1-set of Obama Commemorative Dinnerware© to remind you and your family of your 2008 victory for only $14.99 + shipping and handling.

300 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:57:47am

re: #292 Dustyvet

Barak Obama- hope on a rope soap, oh that's gross, looks a lot like Alfred E Newman...:)

More like dope on a rope.

301 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:57:57am

News Stations.

I've only been watching movies on TCM and the free ones on Comcast digital for a couple of weeks now. Tomorrow night TCM is showing Guess Who's Coming to Dinner.

/I'm not kidding!

302 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:58:35am

re: #292 Dustyvet
I'm Surprised they launched such a product since it looks like a lynched Obama.

303 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:58:39am

re: #297 Fenway_Nation

Any survivors?

Survivors?

/they're just getting comfy

304 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:59:22am

re: #303 Killian Bundy
And are about to set teh World record for single largest circle jerk.

305 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:00:09am

re: #290 Rustler

[Link: www.peepeeface.com...]

Well, I think we have proved that you can indeed buy anything...

306 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:00:44am

re: #302 Rustler

I'm Surprised they launched such a product since it looks like a lynched Obama.

I was thinking that, but decided to shut up about it...:)

307 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:01:51am

re: #299 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

For those of you who voted Democrat and/or for Obama, you can get 1-set of Obama Commemorative Dinnerware© to remind you and your family of your 2008 victory for only $14.99 + shipping and handling.

Excellent!

308 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:01:51am

re: #305 TnTx13
Theres a really good Bawney Fwanks one on the front page which isn't in any of the categories for some reason. Probably cause Fwank's liked it too much.

309 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:01:56am

Morning all! Thirty hours until the planet starts to heal and the oceans begin to recede.
Funny though, I haven't heaard any more about 95% of us getting a tax cut.

310 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:02:01am

re: #304 Rustler

And are about to set teh World record for single largest circle jerk.

They're already descending on Washington D.C. in force.

/without hotel reservations or access to bathroom facilities

311 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:09am

re: #305 TnTx13

Well, I think we have proved that you can indeed buy anything...

The Support the Troops in red and blue, and pardon the pun really piss me off!

312 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:30am

re: #309 Jim in Virginia

Morning all! Thirty hours until the planet starts to heal and the oceans begin to recede.
Funny though, I haven't heaard any more about 95% of us getting a tax cut.

I think it's going to take 95% of us to pay for all of these bailouts :(

313 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:45am

re: #306 Dustyvet
When folks started on the Obama Merchandise I almost spoke up with "I bet the one product we wouldn't find would be soap on a rope." Glad I didn't say it.

314 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:03:56am

re: #276 littleoldlady

I dunno. I just like the part where their funny heads explode into green goo...

/I used to be a nice girl.
//HONEST!

;-)

My wife gave me a VHS copy of Mars Attacks just after it came out. I laughed so hard she thought I would need to be hospitalized. I thought it was the most perfectly funny movie ever made. My favorite scene is the one in which the messianic-looking hippy releases the dove in response to the Martian Ambassador's claim that they "come in peace." You knew what was coming but it was still hysterically funny.
The rapturous look on the old crazy lady's face when the Martians vaporize Congress was also priceless.

315 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:04:09am

Sooo...0bama's stimulus package is the innauguration?

316 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:05:28am

re: #311 Dustyvet

The Support the Troops in red and blue, and pardon the pun really piss me off!

That IS strange, isn't it? Must be moonbats who think that's clever.

317 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:05:31am

re: #293 Rustler

Found the Homepage for Headostate.


That's both disgusting and amazing. I know a half dozen people I need to get that for.

318 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:06:47am

re: #315 Fenway_Nation
Nah I already linked the new Obama Stimulus package in my 292 above.

319 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:07:09am

My daughter suggested yesterday we get a "1.20.13: Barack's last day" bumper sticker.
"Does someoen make those?" I asked.
"Not yet."

320 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:07:13am

re: #318 Rustler
293 not 292.

321 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:07:27am

Well, now CNN is putting words into everyone's mouths - did you know that we, too, are full of HOPE&trade for the future because of The One?

322 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:09:00am

Now they're talking bipartisanship, the need to come together.

/58 million of us are bracing for the clown show and nervously laughing our asses off, give it up for liquor

323 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:10:11am

re: #314 Shiplord Kirel

"Those guys are very sick...I think it's my music."

;-)

324 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:10:16am

re: #321 TnTx13

Well, now CNN is putting words into everyone's mouths - did you know that we, too, are full of HOPE&trade for the future because of The One?

Did you know that the United States of America accomplished nothing noteworthy prior to Nov 4th, 2008?

325 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:10:19am

re: #316 TnTx13

That IS strange, isn't it? Must be moonbats who think that's clever.

No real surprise, they been pissing on Vietnam Vets for years. I've lost count how many times I've been called a baby killer...Cost me $40.00 when I gave some daft bitch the bird for calling me that on Veterans Day 2007, cop wrote me a Disorderly Conduct ticket for it.

326 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:11:17am

re: #325 Dustyvet

I know it doesn't make up for it but an upding for your actions.

327 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:11:28am

re: #323 littleoldlady

"Those guys are very sick...I think it's my music."

;-)

Oh my God my cat just exploded...:)

328 littleoldlady  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:11:39am

re: #319 Jim in Virginia

My daughter suggested yesterday we get a "1.20.13: Barack's last day" bumper sticker.
"Does someoen make those?" I asked.
"Not yet."

{My Rove!} :-)

OMG! Mine said the same thing! We should turn them both on to CafePress.

/tuition tuition tuition!

329 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:12:04am

re: #326 little blessing

I know it doesn't make up for it but an upding for your actions.

Thanks very much...:)

330 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:12:37am

re: #322 Killian Bundy

Now they're talking bipartisanship, the need to come together.

/58 million of us are bracing for the clown show and nervously laughing our asses off, give it up for liquor

oh, no, not bipartisanship - ugh! Oh, that reminds me - CBS has even been Obam-iconning (or whatever you call it) all of their sitcom ads - you know, the reddish-bluish -looks-like-Obama-posters thing.

331 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:13:24am

re: #322 Killian Bundy

/58 million of us are bracing for the clown show and nervously laughing our asses off, give it up for liquor

I'll be in my happy place

/smells like diesel fumes, but sometimes its the only thing keepin' ya warm!

332 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:14:16am

Doom Watch:
Less than 30 hours now.

333 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:15:20am

re: #330 TnTx13
What Obama calls Bipartisanship is actually Unilateral concessions made by Conservatives. I won't say Repubs becasue there are far to many rinos this year for me to want to include them since they already onboard the USS Moonbat.

334 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:17:17am

Mein Gott, a CNN anchor just uttered the code words "Obama's in the house".

/what happens Thursday?

335 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:17:25am

re: #325 Dustyvet

No real surprise, they been pissing on Vietnam Vets for years. I've lost count how many times I've been called a baby killer...Cost me $40.00 when I gave some daft bitch the bird for calling me that on Veterans Day 2007, cop wrote me a Disorderly Conduct ticket for it.

Thank you for your service, Dusty - and good for you for that 'salute.' Sorry it cost you a ticket, though - not at all fair.

336 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:18:15am

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel

Doom Watch:
Less than 30 hours now.

But on the other hand...:)

[Link: obamaclock.org...]

337 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:19:58am

Federer up 3,1 in the first set against Seppi (Italy)

338 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:19:59am

re: #333 Rustler

What Obama calls Bipartisanship is actually Unilateral concessions made by Conservatives. I won't say Repubs becasue there are far to many rinos this year for me to want to include them since they already onboard the USS Moonbat.

Bingo! That is indeed the definition of bipartisanship - held true during the last eight years, too, although then it was concessions by the administration.

339 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:20:21am

Anyone wonder if Jeb's not running in 2010 for office may be a harbinger of his being on the 2012 presidential ticket. He is my favorite of the 3 recent Bush's.

340 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:21:11am

re: #336 Dustyvet

But on the other hand...:)

[Link: obamaclock.org...]

THAT just got bookmarked!

341 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:21:43am

re: #331 Fenway_Nation

I'll be in my happy place

/I'm working a CALL (AGH) ARCH COAL INC JUL 12 1/2

342 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:21:46am

re: #335 TnTx13

Thank you for your service, Dusty - and good for you for that 'salute.' Sorry it cost you a ticket, though - not at all fair.

You'll adore what the cop said to me while he was writing the citation.


"What you did, was far worse, then what she called you"
Young Cop who's never served in the military I guess.

Thanks for your support.

343 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:22:42am

re: #339 Rustler

Anyone wonder if Jeb's not running in 2010 for office may be a harbinger of his being on the 2012 presidential ticket. He is my favorite of the 3 recent Bush's.

Now THAT'S something to HOPE&trade for! George H.W. Bush said last week that he hopes Jeb does run for president someday - maybe he knows something...

344 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:23:03am

re: #342 Dustyvet
Cop woulda recieved a 1 finger salute as well.

345 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:24:28am

re: #344 Rustler

Cop woulda recieved a 1 finger salute as well.

Oh trust me I thought about it...

346 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:25:48am

The other night I asked what would be 0bama's Iran...in other words, what country that's strategically alligned with us will undergo some sort of change in leadership (democratic or otherwise) only to put in a cabal of creepy old men who hate anything remotely fun or have an antidemocratic junta brutalize the populace and stubbornly cling to power on 0bama's watch?

I think my answer the other night was Turkey, but I'd like to modify my answer to Colombia (although Carter managed to pull off both Iran and Zimbabwe). 0bama threw his mentor and maternal grandmother under the bus...one of our last remaining allies in South America can certainly fit under there as well. Especially if it's in the interest in 'mending ties' with The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade Noriega Balloon Hugo Chavez...

/The Good Lord Forbid it be both Turkey and Colombia.

347 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:26:25am

Here's a good Dart board can rotate between Pelosi, Reed, Franks and others.

348 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:27:45am

re: #342 Dustyvet

You'll adore what the cop said to me while he was writing the citation.

"What you did, was far worse, then what she called you"
Young Cop who's never served in the military I guess.

Thanks for your support.

Unbelievable! Wonder how long he stayed a cop?

I've often thought that there were two basic sets of baby boomers - those that grooved their way through the sixties, represented by Bill Clinton, and those who served their country willingly and supported the USA rather than tearing it down, represented by George W. Bush.

349 little blessing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:28:37am

Wishing you all a G'day!

See you tomorrow.

350 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:28:51am

re: #348 TnTx13

Unbelievable! Wonder how long he stayed a cop?

I've often thought that there were two basic sets of baby boomers - those that grooved their way through the sixties, represented by Bill Clinton, and those who served their country willingly and supported the USA rather than tearing it down, represented by George W. Bush.

He's still a cop here...

351 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:29:06am

re: #346 Fenway_Nation

I still think Israel and Iraq are who is going to suffer the most under Obama. Obama will create a voin in Iraq that Iran is only to willing to fill in its creation of a new Persian empire. Israel is under the gun for the same reason and with such friends as Samantha Powers, and Rev Wright I don't see Obama continuing with US support in Israel.

352 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:29:47am

re: #350 Dustyvet
He's not now the Chief of Police or sherriff is he?

353 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:29:50am

re: #350 Dustyvet

He's still a cop here...

Guess we know who he voted for!

354 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:30:08am

Good Morning LGF.
As Obama prepares to enter the White House, Israel appears to be scurrying to exit Gaza before the inauguration.
*spit*

355 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:31:28am

re: #352 Rustler

He's not now the Chief of Police or sherriff is he?

Nope, just a jerk with police powers...I refer to him as Barney Fife...

356 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:32:29am

re: #355 Dustyvet

Nope, just a jerk with police powers...I refer to him as Barney Fife...

With apologies to Don Knotts...

357 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:33:16am

re: #354 Spare O'Lake

Good Morning LGF.
As Obama prepares to enter the White House, Israel appears to be scurrying to exit Gaza before the inauguration.
*spit*

/well, looking back, you didn't think they should have gone in in the first place

358 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:34:18am

re: #356 Dustyvet

With apologies to Don Knotts...

Youtube Video
359 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:34:32am

If CNN has made you sick enough, turn to Fox News - they're interviewing Andy Card and talking about some Bush staff parties.

360 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:35:06am

re: #341 Killian Bundy


But PCX just has that vibe I was getting from JRCC circa August 2007...

/No dividend, but who needs a dividend when your stock price shoots up 20X in value in less than a year?

361 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:35:23am

re: #359 TnTx13

If CNN has made you sick enough, turn to Fox News - they're interviewing Andy Card and talking about some Bush staff parties.

/two days and a wakeup

362 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:35:39am

Good morning, Lizards.

363 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:36:01am

re: #359 TnTx13
I have to leave it on CNN Hotel policy. Well I could change it to Fox for another 45 minutes but if someone comes down early and complains because I am forcing em to watch fox I don't want to deal with getting another Sticky note about forcing my political views on a guest.

364 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:36:18am

re: #362 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

{Good morning goddess}

365 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:36:48am

re: #362 goddessoftheclassroom
Morning Goddess.

366 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:37:07am

re: #363 Rustler

I have to leave it on CNN Hotel policy. Well I could change it to Fox for another 45 minutes but if someone comes down early and complains because I am forcing em to watch fox I don't want to deal with getting another Sticky note about forcing my political views on a guest.

/bummer

367 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:37:15am

re: #362 goddessoftheclassroom
SAT's this week right? or just the SAT Prep?

368 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:38:18am

re: #357 Killian Bundy

/well, looking back, you didn't think they should have gone in in the first place

*gaze*

369 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:38:24am

re: #362 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Morning Goddess...

Image: apple-braeburn.jpg

370 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:39:05am

re: #367 Rustler

SAT's this week right? or just the SAT Prep?

{Erik the Red}
{Rustler}

Just the class. It runs every Saturday until March 7.

Kids gave off today, but we teachers have an inservice.

371 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:39:26am

re: #369 Dustyvet

Morning Goddess...

[Link: www.foodsubs.com...]

{Dustyvet}

That is so sweet!

372 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:40:16am

re: #371 goddessoftheclassroom

{Dustyvet}

That is so sweet!

I'm 61, I haven't done that in like 50 years...:)

373 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:41:55am

re: #360 Fenway_Nation

But PCX just has that vibe I was getting from JRCC circa August 2007...

/No dividend, but who needs a dividend when your stock price shoots up 20X in value in less than a year?

/with options (1 contract =100 shares) you can control thousands of shares at a discount, but it's time encased

374 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:42:01am

re: #362 goddessoftheclassroom

Teach!

375 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:42:33am

re: #374 Spare O'Lake

Teach!

{Spare O'Lake}

376 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:43:32am

re: #363 Rustler

So watching Fox is forcing your views on guests. I guess you could almost have a case for having to endure cruel and unusual punishment for watching CNN then. :D

377 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:43:40am

re: #368 Spare O'Lake

*gaze*

Right.

/you might want to go back and review your posting history

378 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:04am

Good morning {goddess}.

379 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:43am

re: #371 goddessoftheclassroom

{Dustyvet}

That is so sweet!

Here, because you have to work today...:)

Image: HolidayAllFruitBasket.jpg

380 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:44:54am

re: #376 BlueCanuck

So watching Fox is forcing your views on guests. I guess you could almost have a case for having to endure cruel and unusual punishment for watching CNN then. :D

Or at least ask for combat pay...

381 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:45:35am

re: #380 TnTx13

Or at least ask for combat pay...

And an Oak leaf cluster...:)

382 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:46:16am

re: #376 BlueCanuck
Actually the worst part was that the guest called us facist when we informed her the cable package available to us thru our small town company didn't include MSNBC. CNN was to conservative oriented for her tastes.

383 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:47:22am

re: #382 Rustler

Actually the worst part was that the guest called us facist when we informed her the cable package available to us thru our small town company didn't include MSNBC. CNN was to conservative oriented for her tastes.

Your kidding right...?

384 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:47:42am

re: #382 Rustler


Something tells me that your guest would've called you fascist if there wasn't enough creamer by the coffeemaker.

385 TnTx13  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:47:46am

re: #382 Rustler

Actually the worst part was that the guest called us facist when we informed her the cable package available to us thru our small town company didn't include MSNBC. CNN was to conservative oriented for her tastes.

Well, soon we'll have Obamavision - that should satisfy her!

And on that note, g'night all!

386 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:48:16am

Ooh, CNN is talking counter-snipers.

/no, they're just plain old snipers, there will be no sniper threat to Obama

387 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:48:32am

re: #381 Dustyvet
I freaking hate clusters. Used to enjoy being called a PX ranger after I was forced to reclass just because my salad bar exceeded the 1SG's. Sad part was I just left 3 bronze clusters on everything when i was entitled 3 silvers on MSM's 2 gold on Arcoms and about 25 Gold clusters for AAM's since I seemed to get one like every 1-2 months for various crap.

388 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:49:28am

re: #387 Rustler

I freaking hate clusters. Used to enjoy being called a PX ranger after I was forced to reclass just because my salad bar exceeded the 1SG's. Sad part was I just left 3 bronze clusters on everything when i was entitled 3 silvers on MSM's 2 gold on Arcoms and about 25 Gold clusters for AAM's since I seemed to get one like every 1-2 months for various crap.

Umm sorry Lad...:(

389 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:50:16am

re: #383 Dustyvet
Nope she hadn't even come to watch TV she walked for coffee other guests had requested fox she was livid it was playing in a public area. I offered and the other guest agreed to let it move to CNN which is the Channel hotel policy says should be on from 0530 until 1100. She said CNN was way to far right.

390 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:51:37am

re: #388 Dustyvet
It wasn't so bad Top made me come out to the Next Class A inspection with full regalia and after that my limited version was deemed ok by all the Jealous asses in the 9/101 AVN.

391 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:51:40am

re: #389 Rustler

Nope she hadn't even come to watch TV she walked for coffee other guests had requested fox she was livid it was playing in a public area. I offered and the other guest agreed to let it move to CNN which is the Channel hotel policy says should be on from 0530 until 1100. She said CNN was way to far right.

Me thinks this lady's boat is missing an oar.

392 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:51:56am

Boy, I hope Obama gets to keep his Blackberry.

/because the FOIA requests will be nipping at his heels

393 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:52:33am

re: #390 Rustler

It wasn't so bad Top made me come out to the Next Class A inspection with full regalia and after that my limited version was deemed ok by all the Jealous asses in the 9/101 AVN.

cools...:)

394 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:52:37am

re: #391 Dustyvet
Well the oar was used to beat her unto braindeath and the Criminal that used it had to get rid of the evidence.

395 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:53:28am

re: #394 Rustler

Well the oar was used to beat her unto braindeath and the Criminal that used it had to get rid of the evidence.

ROFLMAO...:)

396 yochanan  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:55:22am

i am one of those republican security state guys but his take is interesting
read john kass most recent trib piece

397 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:55:30am

re: #382 Rustler

Godwins Law was definitely made for that one.

398 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:56:01am

Obama honors King on final pre-presidency day

Does this guy ever take a frigging day off?

399 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:56:33am

re: #392 Killian Bundy
Can we pay the same Jackass who hacked Palin's emails to hack Obama's Barackberry and keep it posted and updating 24/7. He shouldn't be receiving any secured messages from it since it it a highly unsecure source no National Security info should ever touch that thing.

400 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:57:12am

re: #399 Rustler

Can we pay the same Jackass who hacked Palin's emails to hack Obama's Barackberry and keep it posted and updating 24/7. He shouldn't be receiving any secured messages from it since it it a highly unsecure source no National Security info should ever touch that thing.

Umm that ain't going to stop him...

401 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:57:44am

re: #398 Dustyvet
Not when it come to pandering. But when it comes to the job citizens elected him to do you can count on not a lick of work.

402 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:58:24am

re: #401 Rustler

Not when it come to pandering. But when it comes to the job citizens elected him to do you can count on not a lick of work.

Agreed...

403 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:58:37am

re: #400 Dustyvet
It better the instant some National Security info is leaked becasue the Jackass used his Barackberry I'm screaming high treason.

404 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:59:03am

re: #377 Killian Bundy

Right.
/you might want to go back and review your posting history

I'll get right on it./

405 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:59:07am

re: #403 Rustler

It better the instant some National Security info is leaked becasue the Jackass used his Barackberry I'm screaming high treason.

Same here.

406 yochanan  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 3:59:48am

[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]


link to john kass

407 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:00:29am

re: #399 Rustler

Can we pay the same Jackass who hacked Palin's emails to hack Obama's Barackberry and keep it posted and updating 24/7. He shouldn't be receiving any secured messages from it since it it a highly unsecure source no National Security info should ever touch that thing.

Obama's new BlackBerry: The NSA's secure PDA?

/won't stop FOIA requests

408 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:01:48am

re: #404 Spare O'Lake

I'll get right on it./

/you should . . . be embarrassed

409 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:02:32am

re: #407 Killian Bundy The secure NSA PDA is one thing but Obambi wants to keep his AT&T run Blackberry which isn't compatible with Govt Secure servers.

410 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:04:06am

I've got to run--have a great day, Lizards!

411 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:04:31am

re: #410 goddessoftheclassroom
Later Goddess enjoy your Inservice meeting.

412 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:04:48am

re: #409 Rustler

The secure NSA PDA is one thing but Obambi wants to keep his AT&T run Blackberry which isn't compatible with Govt Secure servers.

/hey

413 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:15:12am

Baracka Bama Flawless Victory.

414 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:15:21am
Israel will completely withdraw from Gaza so as not to create a problem for Obama.

/WTF?

415 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:18:24am

re: #414 Killian Bundy
Yep Israel's biggest concern right now is a smooth transition for Obama so their quest for self destruction can finally be complete. The Islamofacists are really just trying to help the Jews in accomplishing this which is why they don't understand the US's position of protecting Israel.

416 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:19:09am
417 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:20:12am

re: #408 Killian Bundy

/you should . . . be embarrassed

Have a good day./

418 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:21:41am

Any more rockets fallen on Sderot in the last 24 hours since the poor communications caused 13 Qassams to be fired after Hamas' ceasefire?

419 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:25:30am

weet dreams all, I just went to sleep in my desk chair...:(

420 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:26:01am

re: #417 Spare O'Lake

Have a good day./

Okay.

/24 hours before the IDF went into Gaza, were you or were you not advising against it, postulating that the IAF could win the war from the air over time and giving me [expletive deleted] for advocating what actually happened?

421 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:26:15am

WASHINGTON (AP) President-elect Barack Obama says the character of a nation is revealed "by the right we do when the moment is hard." He's asking America to reveal that character now.

Mr. Obama the right we must do at this hard moment is to stand by Israel not force her into a choice that weakens her or harms her.

422 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:27:20am

re: #420 Killian Bundy
Lol Killian let it die and allow Spare to rewrite history we know what happened and he is unimportant.

423 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:28:01am

re: #420 Killian Bundy
And damn it you took my number :P

424 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:28:01am

re: #421 Rustler

WASHINGTON (AP) President-elect Barack Obama says the character of a nation is revealed "by the right we do when the moment is hard." He's asking America to reveal that character now.

Mr. Obama the right we must do at this hard moment is to stand by Israel not force her into a choice that weakens her or harms her.

Obama selects a Muslim with ties to Hamas to pray at the inauguration. Nuff said

425 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:29:10am

re: #424 Dustyvet
Yeah I know but the initial paragraph is actually Obama's quote I was trying to point him in the "Right" direction not that he reads this blog or would accept any advice given from it.

426 yochanan  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:30:10am

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

i know this unit gets more press coverage than any other unit in the war but the question raised here is important anyway.

427 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:30:22am

re: #425 Rustler

Yeah I know but the initial paragraph is actually Obama's quote I was trying to point him in the "Right" direction not that he reads this blog or would accept any advice given from it.

I know, the handwriting on the wall is not looking good.

428 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:31:13am

[Link: www.youtube.com...] 'n' Just a test to see if link works.

429 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:31:23am

Anyhow niters all, and have a great day.

430 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:32:05am

re: #428 Rustler

[Link: www.youtube.com...] 'n' Just a test to see if link works.

The page cannot be found

431 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:32:22am

re: #428 Rustler
Should be a you tube of a Gazan Dr whose mission in life was reconcilliation with Israel but whose daughters died minutes before the interview.

432 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:33:13am

re: #430 Dustyvet
Ok let me try a diff approach websense sucks and my laptop started a stupid bluescreen bug claiming not enough free memory so i gotta take time to work on it later today.

433 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:33:16am
434 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:35:47am
435 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:38:20am

Ok this link should work. And the NY times report on the incident.

436 unclassifiable  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:40:42am

Hey 3 wood,

I got my order set to jump completely out of the stock market first thing tomorrow.

Looks like I´ll have to be satisfied with a few ticks in interest for a while.

437 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:41:14am

re: #435 Rustler
Yes it's sad and I applaud the mans efforts at trying to establish peace but You don't stick around where bullets are flying.

438 monkeytime  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:41:35am

New Taliban Killer - The Plague...

439 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:43:00am

re: #438 monkeytime
Question is did they carry the plague with them to North Africa or did they contract it there as it is a mostly IndoEuropean virus.

440 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:43:58am

re: #424 Dustyvet

Obama selects a Muslim with ties to Hamas to pray at the inauguration. Nuff said

Remember, it's out there that he's committed to appeasing Muslims in a Muslim capitol within his first 100 days.

/CAIRO EGYPT, Obama speech, first words out of his mouth, "There is no God but Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is His Messenger"

441 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:48:39am

CNN is interviewing people who claim Obama may be Dr ML King's son now. Or at least someone said Obama is of an age that he truely could be Dr King's son.

442 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:49:12am

NPR reports: Israel Allows Journalists Back Into Gaza

Not in a million years would you guess what we get from the Beeb: Scale of Gaza destruction emerges

The full scale of devastation in Gaza following Israel's three-week offensive is becoming clear, after both Israel and Hamas declared ceasefires.

UN official John Ging said half a million people had been without water since the conflict began, and huge numbers of people were without power.

Four thousand homes are ruined and tens of thousands of people are homeless.

Outside of Obummer, where and who is the weakest exploitable Western link and how could it be used - damned near instantaneously - against the Little Satan, first; Great Satan, thereafter?

443 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:50:06am

re: #440 Killian Bundy I'm not one to believe he is muslim but I would laugh my rear off if after being coronated, I mean Inaugurated, Obama cried out Inshallah.

444 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:53:35am

re: #443 Rustler

I'm not one to believe he is muslim but I would laugh my rear off if after being coronated, I mean Inaugurated, Obama cried out Inshallah.

/as they say, may you live in interesting times

445 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:55:42am

Some possible fun being cooked up on the dead soon to be resurected Evo thread.

446 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:58:06am

Robin Meade on CNN cackling as her Coanchor talks about Bush's Uhaul van.

447 snopercod  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:58:15am

re: #439 Rustler

Question is did they carry the plague with them to North Africa or did they contract it there as it is a mostly IndoEuropean virus.

Obviously, Karl Rove and Dick Cheney carried it over there in a special batch of falafels.

448 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:01:22am

Good Morning Lizards ...

It is starting to spit a little snow here ...

My prayer for today is that Bush will sign Ramos and Compean pardon ...

Any more information out there about the terrorist plague? ...

449 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:03:01am

Eternity's Breath

Youtube Video

/NOT on Obama's Blackberry

450 filetandrelease  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:04:08am

re: #36 Buster Bunny

ooh ooh .. revenge comes from all sorts of places !

Al Qaeda vs Black Death ... guess who wins?

turns out playing with biogenic warfare may just not be as cool as they think.

Soon to land in an airport near you?

451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:04:14am

Well, good morning. Tomorrow is the dawning of the new age.

I'm feeling kind of edgy.

452 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:04:38am

According to the article in the Sun there is some worry that the plague may have made it back to Afganistan.

Now al-Qaeda chiefs fear the plague has been passed to other terror cells — or Taliban fighters in Afghanistan.

Aren't we happy nowadays that while we were supporting hte Taliban against Russia we didn't help forn the Nation of Pashtunistan between Pakistan and Afganistan.

453 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:04:50am

re: #420 Killian Bundy

Okay.
/24 hours before the IDF went into Gaza, were you or were you not advising against it, postulating that the IAF could win the war from the air over time and giving me [expletive deleted] for advocating what actually happened?

I have consistently tried to be deferential to the policies of the democratically elected government of Israel. And yes, I supported the air war and hoped that a ground operation would not be necessary.
Once the IDF decided to go in on the ground, they had my full support.

Now we have a situation which gives the appearance that Israel is pulling out of Gaza in order to avoid an early confrontation with Obama.
My comment this morning expressed my disgust with that appearance.

I have not gone back and reread our exchange, and quite frankly I don't remember the details.

I do not pretend to know the future, and I am not personally embarrassed by my respect for the democratic will of the Israeli people - even as I fervently hope for the replacement of Kadima with a Likud victory in the upcoming elections.

Again, have a good day./

454 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:09:05am

Nm looks like it was a drive by trolling on the Evo thread. I hope it at least read my replies before scurring off.

455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:11:02am

re: #452 Rustler


According to the article in the Sun there is some worry that the plague may have made it back to Afganistan.

Wouldn't bother me at all if Allah saw fit to thin the herd of those who have bastardized the "ROP".

456 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:15:56am

re: #455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wouldn't bother me either since even pretty basic medical care could save the lives but these bastards would rather spend every penny that comes into their hands on acquiring new methods to kill civilised human beings while claiming they are fighting the oppression these civilised countries inflict on them,rather than using the money to improve their own quality of life.

457 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:18:19am

re: #449 Killian Bundy

Eternity's Breath

And you don't acknowledge that John McLaughlin, the inventor of the scalloped fretboard, is the fastest guitarist alive?

/think again

458 rightside  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:22:24am

Morning Lizards.

459 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:23:23am

re: #422 Rustler

Lol Killian let it die and allow Spare to rewrite history we know what happened and he is unimportant.

It is true that I am unimportant, but I do not try to rewrite history.
I always try to support Israeli military policies, even when they rub me the wrong way. That is because although I am a Jew, Israel is a democracy with a democratically elected government, and I am not an Israeli citizen.

460 VioletTiger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:27:52am

Good morning all.

Any Eagles fans or Ravens fan out there? Eagles go down once again. I thought we had 'em this time.

461 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:31:21am

re: #460 VioletTiger

Good morning all.

Any Eagles fans or Ravens fan out there? Eagles go down once again. I thought we had 'em this time.

Biggest problem the Eagles have is McNabb just can not read a blitz. Sometimes his blockers can hold it off anyway and a play gets made, but I have never seen a QB so unable to read a blitz and react correctly as McNabb.

And as a Bears fan I've seen 30 years of Bears QB's too.

462 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:32:53am

Well one more day till the Messiah takes office and fixes everything.

The MSM was just gushing yesterday, made me want to throw up.

Tomorrow I will be too busy working to watch the festivities.

463 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:33:32am

Just remember people ...the next resident of the White House wrote this poem ...G-d help us ...

UNDERGROUND

Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.

464 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:37:17am

re: #463 JacksonTn Ouch that hurt my head. I'm just curious how he got the apes to live in an underground grotto and how he got date palms to grow there.

465 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:38:14am

re: #461 3 wood

Take the Cardinals and the points.

/my bad that worked out just the same in fantasy football

466 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:38:58am

re: #464 Rustler
Pardon me Figs aren't from date palms confusing my dryed fruits.

467 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:00am

re: #464 Rustler

Ouch that hurt my head. I'm just curious how he got the apes to live in an underground grotto and how he got date palms to grow there.

Well, a big fat spliff probably helped with that lovely piece of poetry ...

468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:20am

re: #465 Killian Bundy

I am the worst ever when it comes to prognostication. I'll use you. You seem to have this in hand. Last bet I ever made was Hagler/Leonard.

Lost that too.

469 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:31am

re: #460 VioletTiger

Good morning all.

Any Eagles fans or Ravens fan out there? Eagles go down once again. I thought we had 'em this time.

Morning VT.

Bawahahahahahahahahaha! I told everyone to not underestimate the Cardinals, and that fraud McNabb did just that. Gotta hand it to Larry Fitzgerald, though - the guy's a talent.

470 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:39:50am

re: #466 Rustler

Just watch yer nuts!

471 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:41:03am

re: #461 3 wood
As Rancher says the Media has a vested intrest in Mcnabb playing because he is a rarity. A black man in the White mans QB position. He just agrees with Rush in that. He is suffieciently skilled to have the position he's just not as good as they make him out to be.

472 Syrah  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:41:07am

Logun's Run.

Last Day.

Blinking Red and Black.

Carousel on Tuesday.

473 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:42:13am

re: #471 Rustler

As Rancher says the Media has a vested intrest in Mcnabb playing because he is a rarity. A black man in the White mans QB position. He just agrees with Rush in that. He is suffieciently skilled to have the position he's just not as good as they make him out to be.

Rush was right: McNabb is OVERRATED! (1-5 in NFC Championship games is not a statistic to hang your hat upon.)

474 VioletTiger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:42:24am

re: #469 Wyatt Earp

You're right. Larry was really something.
Of course, Eagle lay-calling in the first half sucked.
I think this is the end of McNabb as an Eagle.

475 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:42:57am

re: #473 Wyatt Earp

Oh yeah I agree too. It's stupid that Rush was called racist for the remark.

476 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:43:36am

re: #474 VioletTiger

You're right. Larry was really something.
Of course, Eagle play-calling in the first half sucked.
I think this is the end of McNabb as an Eagle.

I wish. Never gonna happen. Lurie loves him and Reid, so we have 5 more years of these knuckleheads, IMO.

477 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:44:38am

Good Morning Lizards!

We are digging out from another 4 inches of light, fluffy snow that fell overnight here in CT. It is considerably warmer than it has been, however. Likely to get up into the 30's, at least. That is a real improvement over the teens and single digits of last week.

478 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:45:02am

re: #472 Syrah

Logun's Run.

Last Day.

Blinking Red and Black.

Carousel on Tuesday.

You kin to TFK?

479 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:45:07am

re: #473 Wyatt Earp
Yeah, It would be one thing if he was 1-5 in superbowls as I feel everyone who makes it there is a winner but to make conference Championships that often and only make it to the show once is not something to brag about.

480 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:45:11am

re: #477 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards!

We are digging out from another 4 inches of light, fluffy snow that fell overnight here in CT. It is considerably warmer than it has been, however. Likely to get up into the 30's, at least. That is a real improvement over the teens and single digits of last week.

Morning Fp - We have about an inch of fluffy white global warming in Philly.

481 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:45:30am

Get a load of the bias in this article:
Financial burden of homeownership spread unequally

WASHINGTON -- When it comes to homeownership, Hispanics in New Jersey, single parents in California and senior citizens in Rhode Island all have something in common: More than a third have an unaffordable mortgage.

Inequality in America has traditionally followed familiar patterns of race, age and education. Those long-standing gaps have been magnified by the real estate boom and now the historic bust, according to an Associated Press analysis of 2007 Census Bureau data.

While minorities have made significant gains in wealth and home ownership since 1990, “things are going into reverse gear,” and now the homeownership rate for blacks and Hispanics is falling, said Edward Wolff, a New York University economist who studies income and wealth distribution.

In equality in home mortgage affordability is now becoming an entitlement.


The AP’s analysis reveals the enormous scope of the U.S. housing market bust and how unevenly the burdens are spread, both geographically and demographically. And the situation is worsening — a record 10 percent of U.S. homeowners with a mortgage are at least one payment behind or were in foreclosure as of last fall, compared with 7.5 percent a year earlier and just under 6 percent in 2006.

The burden is clearly more arduous among minority households, the AP analysis found.

So "women and minorities hurt most" rides again. The the reporter really gets crazy.

For example, included among those who spent at least 38 percent of their income on housing are:

About 40 percent of black borrowers in California, Nevada, Oregon and Massachusetts.

More than 30 percent of Asian borrowers in California and Florida.

Nearly half of Hispanic homeowners in Rhode Island and at least 40 percent in Alaska, California, Florida, Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey and New York.

Many Latino families wound up with expensive subprime mortgages because they often have cash income and no bank account, said Janis Bowdler, associate director for wealth building at National Council of La Raza in Washington.

It is common for Latino families to have stable incomes, but limited credit histories — and hence lower credit scores, which lenders use to gauge risk. Many have multiple sources of income, some of it in cash.

During the housing boom, consumer advocates say it was both faster and more profitable for mortgage brokers and loan officers to put Hispanic families in loans that didn’t require proof of income, but charged higher interest rates.

“They had them out the door in a fraction of the time,” Bowdler said. “They were definitely getting more expensive loans.”

Now, Hispanic households like the Cazares family of Visalia, Calif are caught up in the mortgage crisis. Out of work for more than a year after contracting a rare disease caused by an airborne fungus, Joel, 36, brings in $550 a week in disability payments. His wife Maria, 34, makes about that much money weekly by working as a hair stylist.

They haven’t made their $2,500 home loan payment in four months.

So now the banks are going to get labeled the bad guy for complying with the Community Reinvestment Act, which pretty much forced them to make loans to mortgage applicants would could not afford it. And notice couple featured had a mortgage of $2,500 a month. I have owned two houses in my life, decent houses, and the mortgages combined still did not equal $2,500.

Plus, and this is the point the MSM has a problem getting, nobody forced these people to take these loans.

You can see it coming,now we will have mandated "affordabiltiy" for mortgages based on the impact by race.

482 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:46:42am

re: #468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am the worst ever when it comes to prognostication. I'll use you. You seem to have this in hand. Last bet I ever made was Hagler/Leonard.

Lost that too.

OH NO! That was an apology for picking the Eagles,

/the Steelers will destroy the Cardinals, if the opening spread isn't at least Steelers -10 and opens at -7, blame the Vegas fear of amateur referees

483 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:47:37am

re: #480 Wyatt Earp

Morning Fp - We have about an inch of fluffy white global warming in Philly.

Thank you Algore! Morning Wyatt. Are you in mourning this morning. Mooring. More ning. aaahhh. it is too early to be losing my mind already!

484 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:47:56am

re: #471 Rustler

As Rancher says the Media has a vested intrest in Mcnabb playing because he is a rarity. A black man in the White mans QB position. He just agrees with Rush in that. He is suffieciently skilled to have the position he's just not as good as they make him out to be.

I am convinced that you could walk a safety up on him holding a neon sign saying "I'm blitzing" and McNabb would not read it.

I could see the Cardinals blitzes coming a mile away and then there would be McNabb flat on his back looking out his ear hole.

485 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:49:02am

re: #483 Ford_Prefect

Thank you Algore! Morning Wyatt. Are you in mourning this morning. Mooring. More ning. aaahhh. it is too early to be losing my mind already!

No, I am relieved that we don't have to do crowd control for another riot. The Phillies one was bad enough. :)

486 rain of lead  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:49:19am

morning lizards
your morning gorebull solar update
the sun is asleep and a solar wind output of 409 km/s

487 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:50:09am

re: #484 3 wood
He has tunnel vision bad once he gets the ball and starts looking for a receiver he wouldn't see a tank sneaking up on him.

488 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:51:51am

re: #481 3 wood

You don't get it 3 wood! Home loans are a right, not a responsiblity!
/

Seriously, as you say, no-one forced these people to take out unaffordable loans!

Thank goodness, we did not have a crazy thing here like your Community Reinvestment Act

489 VioletTiger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:52:07am

re: #485 Wyatt Earp

No, I am relieved that we don't have to do crowd control for another riot. The Phillies one was bad enough. :)


Wyatt, if a miracle ever happens and the Eags actually win a SuperBowl, just get out of town! Take a vacation day!

490 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:52:08am

re: #481 3 wood

More than a third have an unaffordable mortgage.

So I guess i'm the only homeowner that was asked what I could afford to spend monthly on a mortgage, factoring in my net pay!

491 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:52:34am

re: #489 VioletTiger

Wyatt, if a miracle ever happens and the Eags actually win a SuperBowl, just get out of town! Take a vacation day!

D-U-N, done! :)

492 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:52:36am

Good morning all. I was kinda busy this weekend and wasn't following the news all that closely. It looks like Israel is pulling out of Gaza with out any guarantees at all? Are they suicidal?

493 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:52:55am

re: #485 Wyatt Earp

No, I am relieved that we don't have to do crowd control for another riot. The Phillies one was bad enough. :)

Never could understand how that happens. "Yeah! We won! Let's trash the city!" Don't get it.

494 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:53:27am

MLK quote ...which I dedicate to all "O" supporters ...

“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

495 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:54:42am

re: #494 JacksonTn

MLK quote ...which I dedicate to all "O" supporters ...

“Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

Oh please! You expect them to grasp something as complex as that! Keep it simple! HOPE ,,, CHANGE Those work!

496 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:55:15am

re: #493 Ford_Prefect

Never could understand how that happens. "Yeah! We won! Let's trash the city someone elses stuff !" Don't get it.


:)

497 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:55:49am

re: #493 Ford_Prefect

Never could understand how that happens. "Yeah! We won! Let's trash the city!" Don't get it.

Nor do I, but there you go. I think the Super Bowl will be a good game, though. A high-powered offense versus a high-powered defense.

498 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:56:14am

re: #488 aussiemagpie

You don't get it 3 wood! Home loans are a right, not a responsiblity!

We can start to see the left wing/MSM strategy is to blame the banks for making these loans and claiming racism cause many can't afford them.

499 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:56:37am

re: #490 sattv4u2 I know back when I was in the army I used to have to run back troops all the time when the S1 would call down about someone starting an allotment to ford nissan etc dealer for close for upwards of 40 and 50% of net pay. We would take em back to the dealers and try to get em back out of the contract in that 24 hours remorse window. Ended up Blacklisting like 4 or 5 dealerships in the Fayetteville, NC region.

500 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:56:53am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

I see Little blessing got it almost right ^^^upthread on why we're glad to be on the bottom of the world right now

Aussie Open Aussie OpenAussie Open...Obamanation replay...but she missed ...Cricket CricketCricketCricket...

Aussies v South Africans in the one dayers (5 matches) so far 1-1

501 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:56:57am

re: #490 sattv4u2

So I guess i'm the only homeowner that was asked what I could afford to spend monthly on a mortgage, factoring in my net pay!

Hey, I paid mine off 10 years early.

502 Rustler  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:57:39am

re: #500 aussiemagpie
Morning Maggie

503 rain of lead  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:58:46am

hey guys,
yesterday we were talking about the evil overlord list
and someone asked about the other lists that go along with it, hero,sidekick,evil daughter etc.
well here it is
The very complete,very extended evil overlord list.
"tips for innocent bystanders"
The Normal Innocent Bystander's Survival Guide


---

Never take on someone that has just beaten the Hero, unless it is to distract him just before the Hero delivers the killing blow.


If the Evil Overlord announces to the world that he has reformed and wants only to help people, throw a party, and give away money; don't go. Not even if he's playing Prince's music. Especially if he's playing Prince's music. If he's lying, you'll be a hostage or a statistic. If he's telling the truth, catch the next one.


Watching the Evil Overlord's interview on TV will certainly be interesting, but do not be in the studio audience when he/she/it hosts "Saturday Night Live." Tape it, and wait a week or so to see if any other viewers had any seizures or mind-control problems before you watch the tape.


If you're riding on public transport and the Magnificent Seven board your train or bus, get out immediately and wait for the next one. Especially if they're in their street clothes.


If you are exceptionally attractive, stay away from banks. It's always the buxom redhead who gets taken hostage by the bankrobbers.


Do not run back to get your teddy bear or puppy.


If you have small children, keep them on one of those kid leashes when in public, so that they won't go running back after their teddy bear or puppy.


When a Bad Guy uses you for a human shield, certain delicate areas of his body are in striking range of your heel. Go for it.


If an acquaintance of yours seems to disappear everytime the Hero puts in an appearance,


.


.


.

504 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:59:16am

[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]

/should be -10, as expected, Vegas is frightened of the amateur referees

505 bbuddha  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:59:39am

re: #490 sattv4u2

More than a third have an unaffordable mortgage.

So I guess i'm the only homeowner that was asked what I could afford to spend monthly on a mortgage, factoring in my net pay!

You do have to exercise some personal responsibility when reporting your income. They would have given me a higher loan that factored in the child support that I was supposed to receive. I knew that was unlikely at best to be something I could count on. I got a loan that only included that income that I had some control over.

506 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:00:09am

re: #490 sattv4u2

More than a third have an unaffordable mortgage.

So I guess I'm the only homeowner that was asked what I could afford to spend monthly on a mortgage, factoring in my net pay!

When my wife and I were in the market for a new house a few years ago (we ended up staying put for the time being) we were pre-approved for about a 100 grand more than we could ever have afforded. We, however were smart enough to realize that and shopped for houses in our true price range. Too many people don't do that and then turn around and blame the bank or the government for the fact that they can't pay their bills. Now Obama wants to bail these people out of their bad choice? I say let them figure it out for themselves. Some people have legitimate problems, such as loss of a job, but it should be up to them to work something out with their mortgage company. It is in the mortgage company's best interest to work with these people, and they should do so. It is not the government's responsibility, or even their right, to take our money and bail these people out. I am sorry if that seems harsh, but that is my opinion.

507 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:00:18am

re: #498 3 wood

We can start to see the left wing/MSM strategy is to blame the banks for making these loans and claiming racism cause many can't afford them.

#3 wood, I'm constantly amazed at the stupidity of people who cannot see the truth behind the housing loan collapse

Hey, if I can see it here, in Sydney, why can't people over there see it?

508 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:00:40am

Good morning y'all - from a cold (32 degrees, going up to 42 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

509 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:01:31am

re: #501 3 wood

Hey, I paid mine off 10 years early.

Thats just because you (fill in the blank ___)
inhereted the money
cheated on your taxes
was lucky
stole from poor people

510 big steve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:01:39am

I have been thinking this weekend about the inauguration and how it has become such a bald-faced cult of the personality thing and a shameless waste of money. It reminds me of the cheesy end zone dances that one sees in the NFL. Years ago when Houston Oiler Earl Campbell used to score a touchdown (which he did frequently) he would just casually trot over to the referee and hand him the ball. No celebration, no dance, no nothing. When asked about it, Earl replied that his high school coach told him that when he scored a touchdown, "act like you have been there before."

So I guess I am going to give Obama and his loyalists a pass here. Because for minorities in America, they really haven't been here before, so a little bit of "in your face" end zone dance is tolerable.

511 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:01:41am

re: #504 Killian Bundy

[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]

/should be -10, as expected, Vegas is frightened of the amateur referees

/and, if you're betting, that's called a three point overlay

512 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:01:57am

re: #504 Killian Bundy

[Link: msn.foxsports.com...]

/should be -10, as expected, Vegas is frightened of the amateur referees

I was dumb to use my historical knowledge of the Cardinals (THEY SUCK! ALWAYS HAVE! ALWAYS WILL!) and my historical knowledge of the Ravens (RAY LEWIS IS THE TOUGHEST MO FO IN FOOTBALL, and BIG BEN HAS A HEADACHE!) and nothing else to make my pics.

Like I said; I'm the worst.

513 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:02:39am

re: #508 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a cold (32 degrees, going up to 42 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Good morning, real. We are expecting temps in the 30's here in CT. I am well, how about you?

514 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:02:44am

re: #502 Rustler

Morning Maggie

Hello rustler, and I'm glad you finally made it here :-)

But you were quick, I've heard it takes some people years to get an open rego window to climb in !

515 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:03:34am

re: #512 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was dumb to use my historical knowledge of the Cardinals (THEY SUCK! ALWAYS HAVE! ALWAYS WILL!) and my historical knowledge of the Ravens (RAY LEWIS IS THE TOUGHEST MO FO IN FOOTBALL, and BIG BEN HAS A HEADACHE!) and nothing else to make my pics.

Like I said; I'm the worst.

/um, the Ravens are eliminated

516 saberry0530  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:03:58am

re: #512 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was dumb to use my historical knowledge of the Cardinals (THEY SUCK! ALWAYS HAVE! ALWAYS WILL!) and my historical knowledge of the Ravens (RAY LEWIS IS THE TOUGHEST MO FO IN FOOTBALL, and BIG BEN HAS A HEADACHE!) and nothing else to make my pics.

Like I said; I'm the worst.

Something about a blind squirrel and an acorn comes to mind.

517 rain of lead  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:04:24am

here are more tips for innocent bystanders

518 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:05:17am

re: #515 Killian Bundy

/um, the Ravens are eliminated

yeah. I picked Ravens/Eagles in Super Bowl.

When in doubt? Bet against the Fat Bastard.

519 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:05:35am

re: #490 sattv4u2

More than a third have an unaffordable mortgage.

So I guess i'm the only homeowner that was asked what I could afford to spend monthly on a mortgage, factoring in my net pay!

Not to defend the American Dreamers, but weren't a lot of these people offered short-term mortgages at below market rates in order to suck them in? At the artificially low initial rates, a lot of them could afford to carry the loans, but it was when the initial term was over that they could no longer carry the loans at then prevailing market rates.

520 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:05:45am

Good morning Lizards:
I have an interesting piece of info - I am sure all of you know this but I was in the trenches on Saturday. Two of my good friends, myself and my father went to take our concealed weapons permitting class on Saturday. We showed up an hour early, sure we would be the first ones in line. We pulled up to the place and the line was already wrapped around the building. We were pretty shocked at the number of people. We ended up with 120 people in the class. As we were taking our pictures, I asked the young man taking them how long he had been doing this and he said "since March 08". I asked him about the number of people in the classes then and now. He looked at me and smirked "We had a hard time getting 30 people in here on a weekend and now we turn people away at each class." I said to him "What do you think caused the increase?" He just smiled and said "the election".
At the end of the class we were discussing the fingerprinting issue. The instructor told us that f we chose to get the inked fingerprinting done instead of electronic, it could take up to a year before we got our license. (Two years ago it was about a six week wait). The electronic prints and paperwork now take up to four months because of the dramatic increase in applications. The department of agriculture is completely bogged down with CWP applications.

521 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:05:47am

re: #510 big steve

I have been thinking this weekend about the inauguration and how it has become such a bald-faced cult of the personality thing and a shameless waste of money. It reminds me of the cheesy end zone dances that one sees in the NFL. Years ago when Houston Oiler Earl Campbell used to score a touchdown (which he did frequently) he would just casually trot over to the referee and hand him the ball. No celebration, no dance, no nothing. When asked about it, Earl replied that his high school coach told him that when he scored a touchdown, "act like you have been there before."

So I guess I am going to give Obama and his loyalists a pass here. Because for minorities in America, they really haven't been here before, so a little bit of "in your face" end zone dance is tolerable.

Larry Fitzgerald follows the same example. That's why I like him.

522 freetoken  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:06:01am

re: #506 Ford_Prefect

What you're missing (besides it not just being Obama who wants to continue the idea of rescuing the mortgagees but pretty much the entire DC circuit...) is simply this:

It is just not a "mortgage company" which exists to deal with borrowers who can't pay... the marketing of mortgages throughout the world financial system has caused grief far from the hapless borrower. The government has become involved not just because of some sympathy for the borrower, but to try and keep mortgage defaults from causing any more financial panic.

Underlying all of this has been the stated policy of the US government (including quite noticeably GWB) that as many Americans as possible must be "homeowners".

523 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:06:02am

re: #513 Ford_Prefect
Hey Ford - we're going up to 43, then tomorrow we're gonna be in the mid 30's with snow predicted.
How about you - what's the forecast for tomorrow for you?

524 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:06:41am

re: #515 Killian Bundy

/um, the Ravens are eliminated

Thats what he's saying. he went AGAINST the Cards (THEY SUCK! ALWAYS HAVE! ALWAYS WILL) FOR the Ravens (RAY LEWIS IS THE TOUGHEST MO FO IN FOOTBALL) and AGAINST the Steelers( BIG BEN HAS A HEADACHE).
In other words, he was WRONG WRONG and WRONG

525 rain of lead  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:06:54am

Before going off the beaten path for your vacation, check the police archives, and with the old people who live in the region, taking note of any mysterious deaths or disappearances.

Artifacts that are found in pieces should be left in pieces. Most importantly, if the pieces of an artifact stick together during assembly without any sort of adhesive, stop!

When the medical examiner announces that the victim was bitten or eaten by "something weird that I've never seen before, probably some kind of animal", avoid the area where the biting/eating took place. If the victim is still alive, avoid the victim except under broad daylight.

If it glows, avoid it.

If your corporation conducts research, do not volunteer to work after hours. That's when the experiments go awry.

526 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:07:36am

re: #506 Ford_Prefect

I have been called "racist" for saying this ...actually just a few weeks ago and I did not even mention race in the conversation ...but there are people who should not own homes ...because there is so much more to owning a home than just paying a payment each month ...and as you stated many bought homes they could never afford ...programs like AmericDream who gave or helped people even come up with the small down payment that was required were not doing them any favors ...owning a home sounds great until you have to not only make the mortgage payment every month but also pay for upkeep, etc...for some I think they should rent and renting should not be looked at as a bad thing ...but the idea of "renting" as a bad thing was used by some for profit ...IMO just another way to profit by making people feel as though they were "victims" of the rich man ...

527 Miss Trixie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:07:52am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Another cold and snowy day in the valley and I'm up to my eyeballs in work. Gobsmacked, I tells ya!

{realwest} Morning, luv *smoochie-smooch* Hope you have a great day - I'm out for a *shudder* meeting for the rest of the morning, dogdangitall. :(

528 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:08:33am

re: #524 sattv4u2

Thats what he's saying. he went AGAINST the Cards (THEY SUCK! ALWAYS HAVE! ALWAYS WILL) FOR the Ravens (RAY LEWIS IS THE TOUGHEST MO FO IN FOOTBALL) and AGAINST the Steelers( BIG BEN HAS A HEADACHE).
In other words, he was WRONG WRONG and WRONG

Can you rub that in a little harder?

529 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:09:16am

re: #508 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a cold (32 degrees, going up to 42 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?


*Smooch* left cheek,and I hope you've shaved {darls}

I'm here trying to get a flight to Surfers Paradise - this coming weekend is a long weekend, Australia Day on Monday - my son is crook up there and being a good Mum I need to go and check up on him ASAP

Now I'm thinking I'll just take time off work and go - tomorrow

530 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:09:21am

re: #519 Spare O'Lake

Not to defend the American Dreamers, but weren't a lot of these people offered short-term mortgages at below market rates in order to suck them in? At the artificially low initial rates, a lot of them could afford to carry the loans, but it was when the initial term was over that they could no longer carry the loans at then prevailing market rates.

The banks (and mortgage companies) were required to come up with programs to accomodate those people that could not qualify for a "traditional" loan. In each and every one, the paperwork indicated what that loan would ballon too after the initial buy in time. That someone refuses to read the 'fine print" is not the fault of the lending institute

531 VioletTiger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:09:43am

re: #506 Ford_Prefect
It does not sound harsh to me. I feel the same way. We bought a house that was less than we could afford so we could make comfortable payments, and still have a life. Now we are months away from paying it off in 15 years and the government is ready to take our money to help out those who made bad decisions. I realize some people fell upon hard times, and those are the ones I feel sorry for. The people who bought those 6000 sqft with a jumbo mortgage they could not afford- not so much.

532 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:10:15am

re: #528 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can you rub that in a little harder?

Hey ,, how do you think I feel! MY team went 11-5 and didn't even MAKE the playoffs!

533 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:10:46am

re: #521 Wyatt Earp
Howdy Wyatt! How are you today - are you working or are you getting the day off?

534 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:11:05am

re: #533 realwest

Howdy Wyatt! How are you today - are you working or are you getting the day off?

In the office now, looking at the snow. :)

535 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:11:49am

re: #534 Wyatt Earp

In the office now, looking at the snow. :)

Maybe you shouldn't have left the window open so the snow wouldn't be in your office!

just a thought!

536 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:12:23am

re: #535 sattv4u2

Maybe you shouldn't have left the window open so the snow wouldn't be in your office!

just a thought!


It's cold enough in here that it could snow! Lousy city heating system!

537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:13:26am

I'm off today. Promised the wife I would clean the whole house. What kind of injury can I fake?

538 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:14:14am

re: #537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm off today. Promised the wife I would clean the whole house. What kind of injury can I fake?

Insanity? ...

/

539 rain of lead  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:14:51am

re: #537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm off today. Promised the wife I would clean the whole house. What kind of injury can I fake?

tell her you pulled a groin muscle and you need her to rub it :0

540 big steve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:15:23am

re: #537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm off today. Promised the wife I would clean the whole house. What kind of injury can I fake?

screw it up and then she will never let you do it again ;)

541 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:15:26am

re: #537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm off today. Promised the wife I would clean the whole house. What kind of injury can I fake?

Herpes.

542 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:15:32am

re: #537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm off today. Promised the wife I would clean the whole house. What kind of injury can I fake?

re: #538 JacksonTn

Insanity? ...

/


he said FAKE!

543 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:16:02am

I am not trained in firearms, but, uh, is the guy on the right in the top picture holding his firearm incorrectly?

Reminds me of "gangsta" posing.

544 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:16:10am

re: #540 big steve

screw it up and then she will never let you do it again ;)

thats the best answer. this one works.

545 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:16:15am

re: #538 JacksonTn

Insanity? ...

/

He said 'Injury he could FAKE'-how is being normal gonna work for him...

/White smoke...

546 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:17:00am

re: #545 Pietr

He said 'Injury he could FAKE'-how is being normal gonna work for him...

/White smoke...

did we just elect a Pope !?!?!

547 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:17:10am

re: #544 bellamags

thats the best answer. this one works.

Doesn't work here. I am a far better housekeeper than she, and she knows it.

548 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:17:31am

re: #543 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am not trained in firearms, but, uh, is the guy on the right in the top picture holding his firearm incorrectly?

Reminds me of "gangsta" posing.

Retard. If he shoots, the recoil will crush his nose.

549 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:17:49am

re: #547 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Doesn't work here. I am a far better housekeeper than she, and she knows it.

I need guts on the ground or something to get out of it. Or I can just do it and come back in a couple of hours.

550 Pietr  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:17:53am

re: #542 sattv4u2

GMTA..ya got me by 40 some seconds...LOL.

551 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:18:31am

re: #507 aussiemagpie

#3 wood, I'm constantly amazed at the stupidity of people who cannot see the truth behind the housing loan collapse

Hey, if I can see it here, in Sydney, why can't people over there see it?

The socialists have taken over. They see the world as they would like it to be, not as it is.

552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:18:39am

re: #548 Wyatt Earp

Actually, I was wondering about the the partner his gun is pointed at.

553 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:18:53am

re: #520 bellamags

Morning, bella. I have thought about it myself, and I have never been a gun person. I don't think my wife would like it, especially with a two and a half year old around. I know that shouldn't matter, or maybe is even better reason to do it, but try convincing my wife of that.

554 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:19:00am

re: #547 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Doesn't work here. I am a far better housekeeper than she, and she knows it.

damn. How about laundry? can you wash and dry something that will shrink?

555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:19:19am

re: #549 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I need guts on the ground or something to get out of it. Or I can just do it and come back in a couple of hours.

That's the ticket!

BBL.

556 Stonemason  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:19:53am

re: #524 sattv4u2

Ray Lewis is a murderer, or at the very least, an indicted co-conspirator. Unlike the un-indicted we talk about all the time, he was indicted.

Ray Lewis is SCUM

557 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:20:01am

re: #554 bellamags

damn. How about laundry? can you wash and dry something that will shrink?

I do all of the laundry too. And I cook.

I am a sexy fat bastard.

558 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:20:25am

re: #552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Actually, I was wondering about the the partner his gun is pointed at.

You wouldn't think he wants to point it in that direction, but . . .

559 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:20:52am

re: #547 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Doesn't work here. I am a far better housekeeper than she, and she knows it.

If thats the case, just tell her you've already done it! If she's not a good housekeeper, she won't notice!

560 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:21:09am

Okay, really...BBL.

561 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:21:14am

re: #531 VioletTiger

Agreed. We bought an affordable home in 1996, good down payment, credit, etc. The bank made us crawl for the loan; how things changed.

Now that the other half wants to retire we can't sell, not even at a bargain price. I blame the do gooders and the financial illiterates.The people who have no connection to their community, no sense of pride for having to earn the good stuff in life, just pack up their belongings and stiff the honest taxpayer with the tab.

562 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:21:35am

re: #556 Stonemason

Ray Lewis is a murderer, or at the very least, an indicted co-conspirator. Unlike the un-indicted we talk about all the time, he was indicted.

Ray Lewis is SCUM

thanks for sharing ,,,

563 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:22:12am

re: #481 3 wood

Biased is right. We're supposed to feel sorry for this single mom who couldn't pay a thousand a month mortgage, so the bank did a modification on her TWO loans. The article just skips over WHY she had TWO loans. And notice the figures for single parents. No mention on what they paid for their homes. Could it be that 38% of their income goes to housing because they bought too much house?

Her two home loans have now been modified. Effective Feb 1., her new monthly payment will be a much more affordable $683 a month.

“That I can pay,” she said. “Now I can pay my bills and stay current and not worry about losing my house.”

Among single parents like Noble, more than a quarter in Michigan and about 27 percent nationwide spend at least 38 percent of their income on housing. And in California the strain is far worse: About four in 10 single parents meet that threshold.

564 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:22:36am

re: #530 sattv4u2

The banks (and mortgage companies) were required to come up with programs to accomodate those people that could not qualify for a "traditional" loan. In each and every one, the paperwork indicated what that loan would ballon too after the initial buy in time. That someone refuses to read the 'fine print" is not the fault of the lending institute

Legally you may or may not be correct. In Canada we have judges who are often willing to ignore contractual fine print unless the borrower had a reasonable opportunity to read the contract and to receive independent legal advice.
I suspect the US law may be similar.
Beyond that, it seems to me that if the lenders knew that there was no way that the borrowers would be able to carry the loans at market rates, then the lenders were at the very least engaging in an unethical lending practice. The virtual certainty of default would also mean that the lenders was making loans which were contrary to the lenders' own best interests.
It therefore seems that there is plenty of blame to go around - from the borrowers, to the brokers, to the lenders.

565 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:22:38am

Aussie critter story of the day :-)

Monster beach croc stalks woman...

A WOMAN has raised a croc-alert after reporting she and her dog were stalked by a saltie at a popular Top End beach.

Darwin grandmother Jillian Clemens, 52, said she "freaked out" when - standing in shallow water at Casuarina Beach on Saturday afternoon - she noticed a croc was about two or three metres from her ankles, The Northern Territory News reports.

Ms Clemens said the crocodile she saw was between 1.5m and 2m long, and it was watching her, "crouched down ready to go".

The Alawa woman had been throwing a frisbee to her one-year-old Labrador, and said she was just about to take a step forward to throw it.

"I think he was stalking me ... we were the only ones in the water," Ms Clemens said.

"I think if I had taken one more step, me and my dog would have been attacked."

566 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:23:19am

re: #523 realwest

Hey Ford - we're going up to 43, then tomorrow we're gonna be in the mid 30's with snow predicted.
How about you - what's the forecast for tomorrow for you?

Weather for my neck of the woods.
As I said it is an improvement, if not exactly warm. But then, that's winter in CT.

567 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:23:39am

re: #522 freetoken
Good morning to you! Uh, as far back as I can remember, it's been part of the American Dream for folks to own their own homes. Bush shares this view. But your statement that:
"Underlying all of this has been the stated policy of the US government (including quite noticeably GWB) that as many Americans as possible must be "homeowners"." is simply incorrect. It was the Community Reinvestment Act - a DEMOCRATIC piece of legislative manure, that COMPELLED lenders to make home loans to otherwise non-credit worthy or poor credit risk borrowers.
The "thinking" behind this was somewhat admirable: it gave people - poor and young people, mostly, the opportunity to fulfill part of the American Dream; thus was created the "Sub-Prime" Mortgage. Investment bankers then took these sub-prime mortgages and used them to collateralize bonds issued by these same investment bankers and when lower income folks couldn't possibly make their mortgage and "home equity" loan payments (the home equity loans were to provide the 100% financing for folks who hadn't save a dime to be able to buy a home) that's when the proverbial shit hit the fan. Congress' theory, other than pandering for votes, was that the CRA would give low income folks a chance to get out of the Ghettos and into Suburbia. And rather than pay rent to some slum-loard, build up equity in their own homes.
It was NOT - most assuredly - Bush's stated policy that American's must be homeowners.

568 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:23:41am

re: #553 Ford_Prefect

Morning, bella. I have thought about it myself, and I have never been a gun person. I don't think my wife would like it, especially with a two and a half year old around. I know that shouldn't matter, or maybe is even better reason to do it, but try convincing my wife of that.

Hey there sweetie. That was actually a topic of conversation in the class. The instructor advised everyone with children to either completely shield their kids from guns (not recommended) or teach them early and completely to have respect for the gun (recommended). There are also some new gun safes he recommended that are easy to operate.

569 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:24:02am

re: #537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm off today. Promised the wife I would clean the whole house. What kind of injury can I fake?

Senility. Yell her you forgot?

570 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:25:32am

re: #566 Ford_Prefect

Weather for my neck of the woods.
As I said it is an improvement, if not exactly warm. But then, that's winter in CT.

I am so sorry. I will not share with you my local forecast because I don't want to get yelled at.

571 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:25:49am

15:49 France urges global meeting on Palestinian state (AP)

Will someone please tell Sarkosy, we like him, but the day of France being important has long since passed.

572 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:26:37am

re: #571 Nevergiveup

15:49 France urges global meeting on Palestinian state (AP)

Will someone please tell Sarkosy, we like him, but the day of France being important has long since passed.

LOL. damn that was harsh.

573 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:26:47am

re: #551 3 wood

The socialists have taken over. They see the world as they would like it to be, not as it is.

I've been fascinated reading the story of this affordable housing thing...it's as if all commonsense, let alone all economic principles, were left out of the equation

That's socialism alright ...

574 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:27:14am

re: #527 {Miss Trixie} Hey good morning gorgeous! What the heck are you doing working on a National Holiday - whoops, sorry, forgot that you're Canadian.
nevermind.
*smoooches* to you and I hope you get out from under those piles of work today without mussing your hair!

575 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:27:56am

More media bias. Jon Friedman slamming Bush and then saying the the media owes it to Obama to give him the benefit of the doubt:

Obama has already topped Bush in media relations
Commentary: Why is Bush saying hello when it's time to say good-bye?

It doesn't matter if you're a skeptical, if not cynical, media columnist. It matters that the American media should give Obama the benefit of the doubt -- for now

Got a tingle going up your leg, Jon?

576 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:28:10am

re: #571 Nevergiveup

15:49 France urges global meeting on Palestinian state (AP)

Will someone please tell Sarkosy, we like him his wife's frame, but the day of France being important has long since passed.

fixed.

577 96RoadKing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:28:29am

re: #571 Nevergiveup

15:49 France urges global meeting on Palestinian state (AP)

Will someone please tell Sarkosy, we like him, but the day of France being important has long since passed.

I've forgotten...When was France 'important'?

578 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:28:36am

Because he's the One.

Israel to pull out of Gaza by Obama inauguration

579 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:29:51am

re: #529 aussiemagpie
Hey there {aussie} - When is Australia Day? And I'm sorry your kid is feeling crook, but still and all, no reason you can't surf while he's getting his "bed rest", right? And a *smoooch* back to you - very gentle Smooch cause I haven't shaved - one of the benefits of being "retired" is that I don't HAVE to shave if I don't want to and I don't want to! LOL!

580 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:29:56am

re: #577 96RoadKing

I've forgotten...When was France 'important'?

There was that little thing when they kinda helped out out when we had that family tiff with the British.

581 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:30:17am

re: #522 freetoken

I understand that, but I tend to be of the opinion that the government helped create this problem, so I don't have much faith in their ability to fix it. I feel that if we just let things right themselves it will have less of a long term effect. I am no economists, this is just my opinion from what I have seen over the years.

582 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:30:46am

By the way, I'm giving Obama just as much benefit of the doubt as media a-holes like Jon Friedman gave Bush.

583 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:31:26am

re: #534 Wyatt Earp
SNOW? In Philly which is really close to D.C.? How much snow didja get or is it still falling? Are they predicting snow tomorrow in Philly and/or D.C. do you know?

584 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:31:45am

re: #578 ciaospirit

Because he's the One.

Israel to pull out of Gaza by Obama inauguration

I really think this sends the wrong message to the Obama team. Basically Israel is saying to them " Just tell us when and how to bend over". But that's just my opinion.

585 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:32:14am

re: #538 JacksonTn
He said fake! LOL!

586 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:32:25am

re: #581 Ford_Prefect

I understand that, but I tend to be of the opinion that the government helped create this problem, so I don't have much faith in their ability to fix it. I feel that if we just let things right themselves it will have less of a long term effect. I am no economists, this is just my opinion from what I have seen over the years.

you should be president ; )

587 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:32:36am

Hamas: We will continue to smuggle "holy weapons" into Gaza

Some people just don't learn, oh and...


"We are in a powerful, victorious position," he told Israel Radio, "Israel will soon learn that the balance of power has changed in Hamas's favor."

Right, that's why you were hiding behind women & children, because you were victorious.

588 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:32:37am

re: #570 bellamags

I am so sorry. I will not share with you my local forecast because I don't want to get yelled at.

tthhhpppttt!

589 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:32:49am

re: #583 realwest

SNOW? In Philly which is really close to D.C.? How much snow didja get or is it still falling? Are they predicting snow tomorrow in Philly and/or D.C. do you know?


I figured it was a result of the Cardinals going to the Super Bowl. Heh.

590 96RoadKing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:32:58am

re: #580 Nevergiveup

There was that little thing when they kinda helped out out when we had that family tiff with the British.


Ohh...sorry. They were rather important to us for a period.

Interesting idea...Had France not gotten into their Seven Year War with England and the war exported to the Colonies as the French and Indian War, England wouldn't have had to raise taxes on the Colonies to pay for the war, thereby eliminating one of the major issues resulting in the Revolution. (How's that for 'linking'!)

591 vagabond trader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:33:55am

re: #584 Nevergiveup

Promises/threats were made. Remember who we're dealing with in the Israeli government.

592 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:34:05am

re: #586 bellamags

you should be president ; )

I hereby announce my candidacy for 2012! No one ask me about my past, though. I figure they didn't ask Obama any questions so I shouldn't have to answer any either.

593 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:35:01am

re: #586 bellamags

you should be president ; )

You want to head up my security detail?

594 96RoadKing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:35:19am

re: #592 Ford_Prefect

I hereby announce my candidacy for 2012! No one ask me about my past, though. I figure they didn't ask Obama any questions so I shouldn't have to answer any either.


You're just as qualified as that guy that invented the Office of the President Elect...!

595 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:35:31am

re: #590 96RoadKing

Ohh...sorry. They were rather important to us for a period.

Interesting idea...Had France not gotten into their Seven Year War with England and the war exported to the Colonies as the French and Indian War, England wouldn't have had to raise taxes on the Colonies to pay for the war, thereby eliminating one of the major issues resulting in the Revolution. (How's that for 'linking'!)

NO WAR FOR BEAVER!

596 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:35:39am

re: #586 bellamags

you should be president ; )

Or maybe Secretary of Tanning?

597 96RoadKing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:36:21am

re: #595 Kenneth

NO WAR FOR BEAVER!


King Louis lied! People died!

598 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:36:25am

Good news!

The Aussie connection to the US is thriving :-)

We have an Aussie playing in the Superbowl! And there is also an Aussie in the Eagles but he's missed out (Saverio Rocca)


Ben Graham, former Aussie Rules player, now a Cardinals player...

You little beauty :-)

599 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:37:10am

re: #593 Ford_Prefect

You want to head up my security detail?

I would LOVE to. I want to be your driver. Lets get new black Escalades.

600 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:37:11am

re: #587 Kenneth

"We are in a powerful, victorious position," he told Israel Radio, "Israel will soon learn that the balance of power has changed in Hamas's favor."

Talking about Obama?

601 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:37:26am

re: #596 Ford_Prefect

Or maybe Secretary of Tanning?

turd.

602 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:38:45am

re: #584 Nevergiveup

I really think this sends the wrong message to the Obama team. Basically Israel is saying to them " Just tell us when and how to bend over". But that's just my opinion.

I agree that this is a mistake. If they stayed there then it is harder for Obama to get them to withdraw than it would be to get them not to go back in. They need to finish the job and make sure that Hamas is unable to go on the offensive again for a long time.

603 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:39:18am

*Yawn* 'Allo, everyone. I may have the day off, but that doesn't mean I don't have a ton of work to do. It's just homework: lots and lots of paperwork. Taxes, filing, reports, and more than I can count.

SO

I'm putting it off and hanging out here.

What's going on today?

604 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:39:33am

re: #571 Nevergiveup
And also please tell Sarkosy that there is no such thing as a palestinian state. Joryptians (h/t mm) live in Gaza and the West Bank because the Egyptians and Jordanians killed 'em or threw 'em out of Egypt and Jordan - tell Sarky to go look up Black September in Wikipedia for starters.

605 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:39:48am

re: #579 realwest

Hey there {aussie} - When is Australia Day? And I'm sorry your kid is feeling crook, but still and all, no reason you can't surf while he's getting his "bed rest", right? And a *smoooch* back to you - very gentle Smooch cause I haven't shaved - one of the benefits of being "retired" is that I don't HAVE to shave if I don't want to and I don't want to! LOL!

Australia Day, 26th January :-) I'm expecting a Southern Cross on the LGF masthead that day :-)

Yes my poor baby is so ill, and he needs his Mum of course (says Mum) so I'll go up there on Wednesday

Don't worry, I've slapped on the aloe vera cream in anticipation (would hate to go to work with a beard rash) :-)

606 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:40:11am

re: #601 bellamags

turd.

It was just a thought. Head of Security then. The Escalades sound good.

607 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:40:32am

re: #481 3 wood

Good morning all.

I saw that artical yesterday.

What struck me is how easily the slant of the artical could be changed. Instead of Minorities and Single Mothers being the biggest victims, the stats could just as easily lead one to the conclusion that single mothers and minorities were the biggest cause of the crisis.

very un-PC.

608 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:40:56am

re: #575 3 wood
Hey good morning 3 wood, how are you this morning?
Didja get my e-mail last night/very early this AM?!

609 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:41:49am

re: #606 Ford_Prefect

It was just a thought. Head of Security then. The Escalades sound good.

but i will make sure you are nice and bronze for all of your state of the union addresses.

610 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:42:25am

re: #609 bellamags

but i will make sure you are nice and bronze for all of your state of the union addresses.

By tanning, or by using tanning cream?

611 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:43:15am

re: #577 96RoadKing
Well France was important enough to help American gain her Independence from Great Britain. And then used our revolution to have their own.
But, of course being French, they screwed their own revolution up and we've been hauling their asses outta trouble ever since.
But they did help us become a free nation and for that I will always be grateful to France.

612 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:43:37am

re: #610 vxbush

By tanning, or by using tanning cream?

Depends on who is applying the cream.

613 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:43:44am

re: #610 vxbush

By tanning, or by using tanning cream?

whichever he chooses.

614 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:44:17am

I have to go. Working outside for a while, maybe all day. Play nice.

Later Lizards!

615 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:44:26am

re: #569 Nevergiveup

Senility. Yell her you forgot?

Senility AND hard of hearing!

616 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:44:41am

re: #612 Ford_Prefect

Depends on who is applying the cream.

Not going there, not going there. Too early, sir.

Hm. We need a diversion.

OMG! PUPPIES!

617 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:45:27am

re: #611 realwest

But they did help us become a free nation and for that I will always be grateful to France.

I'm pretty sure all those that helped are prolly dead by now !

618 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:45:42am

Oh, wait. THIS is better!

619 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:45:44am

Report: 40 Al Qaeda Fighters Killed By The Plague And...Well Actually It Was The Plague Believe It Or Not

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

One can hope this is a naturally occurring outbreak and not some sort of attempt to create a bio-weapon (even one as simple as sending infected member abroad) gone wrong.

That is something I'd be pretty worried about.

620 saberry0530  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:45:52am

re: #577 96RoadKing

I've forgotten...When was France 'important'?

1770 -1787

621 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:46:34am

re: #595 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth! How can you say that? Of all the reasons men have gone to war, beaver was uh, oh,wait a minute, you meant that other kind of,
ah,
nevermind!

622 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:46:45am

re: #620 saberry0530

1770 -1787

Right up until Napolean invaded Russia.

623 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:47:10am

re: #618 vxbush

Oh, wait. THIS is better!

oh my word. I just want to squeeze that sweet baby.

624 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:47:17am

re: #567 realwest

Well said.

I would add that the govt. culpability does not end with the COmmunity Reinvestment Act.

The Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac farce, bundling 'junk' mortgages for resale in the secondary markets, also greased the wheels for the problem to grow.

Also, it was not just a govt. problem. Financial Firms and Banks also engaged in this practice and further leveraged up the system by buying/selling these financial instruments on credit.

625 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:47:45am

re: #623 bellamags

oh my word. I just want to squeeze that sweet baby.

or iron him

626 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:48:07am

re: #623 bellamags

oh my word. I just want to squeeze that sweet baby.

That many wrinkles on that tiny a body cannot be anything but cute.

627 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:49:05am

re: #625 sattv4u2

or iron him

But if you did, he would be a dachshund.

628 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:49:25am

re: #598 aussiemagpie
ah geez {aussie} "SUPERFOOTY" is the headline! WTH is it with that - he's an effin' punter for crying out loud, and the Cardinals aren't his team, they are the team he plays for!
Sigh.
Could we have more salt-water croc tales, please?!
/

629 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:49:39am

re: #604 realwest

Good morning, Real. I hope you are doing as well as can be expected.

A world conference on a Palestinian state? What's the big hurry? From 638 AD to 1948 AD, that's 1310 years, no Arab ever declared there should be a "Palestinian state". Now suddenly it's essential?

As for Sarkozy, the French had their chance in Palestine, but Saladin kicked them out. Now piss off.

630 Crux Australis  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:49:55am

re: #605 aussiemagpie

Australia Day, 26th January :-) I'm expecting a Southern Cross on the LGF masthead that day :-)

You're half way there with me. ROFL

631 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:50:20am

re: #625 sattv4u2

or iron himre: #627 vxbush

But if you did, he would be a dachshund.

You mean a HOT DOG !

632 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:50:39am

re: #626 vxbush

That many wrinkles on that tiny a body cannot be anything but cute.

Thats why basset hound pups are so cute.

633 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:52:05am

re: #631 sattv4u2

You mean a HOT DOG !

Well, yes, he's cute enough to nibble on.

634 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:52:19am

re: #603 vxbush
Good morning {vxbush} Well see we all have lots and lots of paperwork. Taxes, filing, reports, etc. to do and we're all just hanging here to avoid doing it!
Hell do it all tomorrow when there won't be anything worth while on TV anyway!

635 akak  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:52:32am

What's up in the Korea's today? Are they just on alert still?

636 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:53:04am

re: #632 bellamags

Thats why basset hound pups are so cute.

Like this one? I don't know. Not enough wrinklage.

637 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:53:25am

Saudi King Abdullah went on to criticize Israel for using excessive force in Gaza and said "one drop of Palestinian blood" is more valuable than all the money in the world.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Yeah, When I see you giving up even one of your luxury jets or palaces, call me!

638 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:53:50am

re: #637 Nevergiveup

Saudi King Abdullah went on to criticize Israel for using excessive force in Gaza and said "one drop of Palestinian blood" is more valuable than all the money in the world.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Yeah, When I see you giving up even one of your luxury jets or palaces, call me!

Why exactly are we allies with these tools?

639 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:54:10am

Goals and objectives. Hamas is still in control of Gaza, the uniforms are back on the terrorists and are directing traffic and the Hamas infrastructure took a fearsome pounding even as they claim only 48 of their own were killed.

Israel ended its campaign with an eye to the US inauguration. That's bad jobu and Israel will end up having to go back in to fight Hamas again because Hamas is using this period as a hudna to regroup and rearm. They have explicitly said as much - and vow to continue smuggling in the weapons they need to carry out their war against Israel.

Jordan's King Abdullah says that Israel used disproportionate force, which is laughable given that Abdullah owes his very life to the fact that his father used all the force at his disposal to eliminate PLO and Fatah thugs who sought to overthrow his father in 1970-1971. Thousands of Palestinians were killed in that civil war, and the event is marked by the naming of yet another terrorist group we've come to learn quite a bit about; Black September. Had King Hussein held back on using all the force at his disposal, Abdullah might not be around today to make those kinds of statements. Then again, make no mistake that those statements were done because of a fear of the Islamists in the midst of all these regimes - and who see the dictators and despots throughout the regime as being too soft on Israel and that they've lost the taste of their sworn obligation to jihad under Islamic law and theology.

640 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:54:33am

re: #634 realwest

Good morning {vxbush} Well see we all have lots and lots of paperwork. Taxes, filing, reports, etc. to do and we're all just hanging here to avoid doing it!
Hell do it all tomorrow when there won't be anything worth while on TV anyway!

Except I have to work tomorrow, and if I get it done today--even some of it--my stress level will go way, way down. And that's a very good thing.

But then I need to make banana muffins, and a loaf of gluten-free bread, and my tub really needs some cleaning, and the sheets need to be changed, and...

Well. You get the picture.

I've got so much to do I've shut down. Sitting and typing and hanging out with friends is so much easier.

641 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:54:40am

re: #638 Wyatt Earp

Why exactly are we allies with these tools?

OIL or I've been told?

642 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:55:36am

re: #637 Nevergiveup

Saudi King Abdullah went on to criticize Israel for using excessive force in Gaza and said "one drop of Palestinian blood" is more valuable than all the money in the world.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Yeah, When I see you giving up even one of your luxury jets or palaces, call me!


Or inviting them to live in Saudi Arabia.

643 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:56:32am

re: #605 aussiemagpie
Ah well then{aussie} this is for you: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

644 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:56:41am

re: #639 lawhawk

Goals and objectives.
Israel ended its campaign with an eye to the US inauguration. That's bad jobu ... .

No disagreement with your article, but what is "jobu"? I've seen you use that word before, and I have no idea what it means. Contextually, I would guess it means something similar to "karma" or "motivation."

645 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:56:47am

re: #636 vxbush

Like this one? I don't know. Not enough wrinklage.

look at this one

basset

646 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:57:13am

re: #635 akak

My guess is this is all about the succession of Lil Kim. The paranoid North put their forces on alert, which caused the South to do the same. Once Kim's Number 3 Son has confirmed his grasp on power, the army will stand down.

647 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:58:36am

re: #645 bellamags

look at this one

basset

Ah! Better. But even more wrinklage would be better.

648 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:59:19am

re: #641 Nevergiveup

OIL or I've been told?

BIG SAUDI KINGS ARE RIPPING US OFF!

649 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:59:36am

re: #646 Kenneth

My guess is this is all about the succession of Lil Kim. The paranoid North put their forces on alert, which caused the South to do the same. Once Kim's Number 3 Son has confirmed his grasp on power, the army will stand down.

What's the latest report on Kimmy? I know there was something about him on the news this weekend, but I was in the midst of washing dishes and didn't get to hear why.

650 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 6:59:37am

re: #628 realwest

ah geez {aussie} "SUPERFOOTY" is the headline! WTH is it with that - he's an effin' punter for crying out loud, and the Cardinals aren't his team, they are the team he plays for!
Sigh.
Could we have more salt-water croc tales, please?!
/


tch

LOL! What do I know about that hybrid footy you watch over there, motorbike helmets and all... not real footy!

But hey, it's an Aussie, and we follow all our Aussies with pride :-)

I wouldn't know the Cardinals from the Boston Yankees!

OK, I'll find you some more Aussie critter tales, like on Sunday night as the MOTH had fallen asleep, so I took the rubbish bin out - and a HUGE huntsman spider decided to jump out onto my hand

It was then I realised my heart was in good shape for another few years at least!

651 Walter Cronanty  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:00:29am

re: #531 VioletTiger
Sounds like my wife and I, about 7 years ago. With real estate prices going up, up, up, and being able to borrow 100% [some even more] of the price, we were tempted to "move up." But, with two boys getting ready to go to college, we said "no." Smartest "no" ever.
With everyone pushing "universal" home ownership, the CRA, stupid borrowers, greedy borrowers, lenders who made more money [at least initially] on subprime loans, plus those oh-so-smart-guys on Wall Street who figured out how to make money by bundling bad loans, there was demand that out-stripped supply, thereby pushing up the price of real estate even more. What a perfect shit-storm. Glad my wife and I were conservative, and no, I'm not real sympathetic for those who are over-extended. We have friends who decided to sell their McMansion for another McMansion, in an even tonier suburb, because they got an interest only loan for a monthly payment they could just barely afford. They thought that, hey, prices are always going up, even if we have to sell in 5 years when the balloon payment is due, we'll have equity from the appreciation. Now, their home is worth about 2/3 of their mortgage. I feel bad for them, but...Yikes - I could never have done that.

652 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:00:37am

re: #642 ciaospirit

Or inviting them to live in Saudi Arabia.

Yup, as soon as the Liberals in Scarsdale decide to put affordable housing in their town? HA!

653 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:01:39am

T Minus 25 hours 58 min

Morning all!

654 akak  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:01:41am

re: #646 Kenneth

Thanks for the update.

655 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:02:00am

re: #653 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

T Minus 25 hours 58 min

Morning all!

Morning, vet. Are all the remaining parts doing well today?

656 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:02:02am

re: #647 vxbush

Ah! Better. But even more wrinklage would be better.

ok this one not so much wrinkle factor but wins hands down with cuteness.

dachshund pup.

657 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:02:21am

re: #639 lawhawk

The Jordanians refer to September 1970 as "the era of regrettable events". How delicate a way to describe the slaughter of 7,000–25,000 Palestinian men, women & children killed and the ensuing ethnic cleansing which followed!

Not to be outdone in the irony department, Assad of Syria has called for Israel to be declared a terrorist state.

658 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:02:38am

re: #655 vxbush

Morning, vet. Are all the remaining parts doing well today?

Actually yes, thanks... back is functional and if my hips are complaining I'm not listening.

Yourself?

659 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:03:33am

AAAHHH. This is it. I am done. no more. winner

660 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:03:46am

re: #657 Kenneth

The Jordanians refer to September 1970 as "the era of regrettable events". How delicate a way to describe the slaughter of 7,000–25,000 Palestinian men, women & children killed and the ensuing ethnic cleansing which followed!

Not to be outdone in the irony department, Assad of Syria has called for Israel to be declared a terrorist state.

And how do the residents of Hama Syria feel about that? Oh Yeah, they're all dead.

661 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:03:50am

re: #630 Crux Australis

You're half way there with me. ROFL

Hi Crux!

My local servo has all the Aussie stuff at the counter, hats, flags, etc

And the owner and half his staff are all named Mohammed :-)

662 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:04:03am

re: #659 bellamags

AAAHHH. This is it. I am done. no more. winner

Can it fly?

663 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:04:23am

re: #624 DeafDog
Uh, yeah, that's why I mentioned sub-prime mortgages and investment houses selling bonds "securitized" by pools of these sub-prime mortgages.
But there is a LOT of blame to go around here: mostly the Dems, but the Repub's didn't exactly cover themselves in glory with the regulators and the Department of the Treasury.

664 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:04:46am

re: #656 bellamags

ok this one not so much wrinkle factor but wins hands down with cuteness.

dachshund pup.

Hm. Superior ear flappage, definitely. Primness of nose quite acceptable. Size quite tiny. An excellent specimen!

But I must admit I prefer a short snout in my puppies.

665 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:05:06am

Caroline the 'certain pick?' - I guess it's pretty damned safe to say the US has completely derailed.

666 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:05:27am

Good morning RW, how are you this morning? 14 and sunny here.

667 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:05:37am

re: #658 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Actually yes, thanks... back is functional and if my hips are complaining I'm not listening.

Yourself?

Eh. Even with all the parts, some of them complain out of proportion to the age. I've been better. But some caffeine will help a bit.

668 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:05:40am

re: #664 vxbush

Hm. Superior ear flappage, definitely. Primness of nose quite acceptable. Size quite tiny. An excellent specimen!

But I must admit I prefer a short snout in my puppies.

Puppies? Boob thread!

669 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:06:32am

re: #659 bellamags

AAAHHH. This is it. I am done. no more. winner

HA! He's ready to take off flying! Oh, couldn't you just cuddle him and snuggle him?

670 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:06:35am

re: #639 lawhawk

Damn... misread that it was Jordan's King Abdullah, and not Saudi King Abdullah. However, the larger point stands; these regimes couldn't care less if Palestinians died - they have caused much misery and suffering throughout the region.

The Jordanian uprising in 1970-1; the Lebanese civil war; the current war with Israel that stretches back to the 1980s. Israel's Operation Grapes of Wrath to take out the terrorists' ability to strike at Northern Israel.

The Palestinians have repeatedly been treated even worse by their fellow Arabs, but Israel gets singled out for its actions...

671 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:06:49am

re: #643 realwest

Ah well then{aussie} this is for you: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

Thanks darls! What a good site, and I've logged in there as well now :-)

672 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:07:05am

re: #638 Wyatt Earp
OIL. They have it, we need it.
Don't know why we just don't invade the Magic Kingdom and say to hell with it.

673 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:08:00am

re: #649 vxbush

Kim Jong Il 'names favourite son Jong Un as successor' in North Korea

Since Kim had a stroke he's only been seen in public a few times, and did not look all that well. Clearly, he's not in control anymore. The senior leadership are moving to install his #3 son, probably figuring he will be a pliable puppet for the regime. Keeping the Kim dynasty provides some sort of bizarre legitimacy for the regime continuity.

674 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:08:17am

re: #668 Wyatt Earp

Puppies? Boob thread!

lol... a friend of mine once ended a heated argument between a bunch of guys with:

"Say, let's talk about tits..."

Everyone came to a screeching halt and shut up.

It was quite funny.

675 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:08:59am

re: #659 bellamags

AAAHHH. This is it. I am done. no more. winner

Drop the chalupa!

676 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:09:19am

re: #672 realwest

OIL. They have it, we need it.
Don't know why we just don't invade the Magic Kingdom and say to hell with it.

You want to invade DisneyWorld? I'm in!

677 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:09:34am

re: #673 Kenneth

Kim Jong Il 'names favourite son Jong Un as successor' in North Korea

Since Kim had a stroke he's only been seen in public a few times, and did not look all that well. Clearly, he's not in control anymore. The senior leadership are moving to install his #3 son, probably figuring he will be a pliable puppet for the regime. Keeping the Kim dynasty provides some sort of bizarre legitimacy for the regime continuity.

Is #3 son into porn, young things and Cognac also?

678 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:09:52am

re: #672 realwest

OIL. They have it, we need it.
Don't know why we just don't invade the Magic Kingdom and say to hell with it.

Show 'em what a real war for oil looks like... armed perimeters around the fields, naval escort of tankers out of the gulf, all the caterwauling from the "world community" and we ignore it all.

679 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:10:28am

re: #677 Nevergiveup

Is #3 son into porn, young things and Cognac also?

Hey! I'm right here!

680 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:10:28am

re: #670 lawhawk

Damn... misread that it was Jordan's King Abdullah, and not Saudi King Abdullah. However, the larger point stands; these regimes couldn't care less if Palestinians died - they have caused much misery and suffering throughout the region.

The Jordanian uprising in 1970-1; the Lebanese civil war; the current war with Israel that stretches back to the 1980s. Israel's Operation Grapes of Wrath to take out the terrorists' ability to strike at Northern Israel.

The Palestinians have repeatedly been treated even worse by their fellow Arabs, but Israel gets singled out for its actions...



Your say Abdullah, I say Abdoolah,
Abdullah, Abdoolah, Abdoolah, Abdullah,
Let's call the whole thing off!
681 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:11:00am

re: #358 Dustyvet

[Video]

Thank you for your service, and may this bring you a smile.
Citizens Arrest Episode 106 Part 1

682 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:11:56am

re: #653 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Good morning LT - hey, why not start a countdown clock to January 20, 2013 instead?!

683 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:12:42am

re: #664 vxbush

Hm. Superior ear flappage, definitely. Primness of nose quite acceptable. Size quite tiny. An excellent specimen!

But I must admit I prefer a short snout in my puppies.


LIKE THIS?

684 Walter Cronanty  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:12:49am

re: #663 realwest
Totally agree. It was the ".com" bubble, all over again. Artificially high demand fueled by everybody making money - until ARMs, interest only, etc. balloon payments started coming due. Then, you had the normal default rate [there have always been foreclosures] multiplied by those who should have never been in so much debt. Like I said, a perfect storm.

685 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:12:50am

Sources: Ryan to become Jets coach

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

As a Jet Fan, why is it I am sure this will be an abysmal disaster?

686 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:12:55am

re: #673 Kenneth

Kim Jong Il 'names favourite son Jong Un as successor' in North Korea

Since Kim had a stroke he's only been seen in public a few times, and did not look all that well. Clearly, he's not in control anymore. The senior leadership are moving to install his #3 son, probably figuring he will be a pliable puppet for the regime. Keeping the Kim dynasty provides some sort of bizarre legitimacy for the regime continuity.

But who is the true seat of power if not for Kim? I mean, if he has chosen his youngest son, that implies that he did, indeed, make the choice. Or are you suggesting that Kim is in no shape to make such a selection and the senior leadership have chosen for him? The article makes it sound like Kim has chosen himself. Granted, I wouldn't trust the source, but I also know very little about the situation.

687 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:12:58am

re: #674 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

My son caused a bit of a scene in a women's clothing store on the weekend when he pointed at an undressed mannequin and declared,

"Mommy, that statue has boobies but it doesn't have a penis!"
688 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:13:11am

re: #682 realwest

Good morning LT - hey, why not start a countdown clock to January 20, 2013 instead?!

Be happy to... let me look for an app.

689 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:13:17am

re: #669 vxbush

HA! He's ready to take off flying! Oh, couldn't you just cuddle him and snuggle him?

give him belly raspberries.

690 ayatollah ghilmeini  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:13:26am

Cheap Wars

So Israel is pulling out. They killed roughly 5-10% of Hamas' fighters, injured about 10-20% and put many of the remainder to flight. Israel scored what is called a post-modern victory. That is where you go in with vague objectives, really kick ass and then march out declaring victory but not completely annihilating the enemy. He who fights and pulls away... gets to fight Hamas some other day. Israel's leaders figured that with 13 soldiers dead, only a few by enemy fire, it was time to leave.

Predictably, Hamas has declared victory and their intention to rearm. Hamas may have learned a lesson from this war. The problem is they also may not be deterred. Time will tell. Past examples show leaving before the job is done just gets you another war. Just ask Saddam about Gulf War I. Perhaps there will be a people's rebellion against Hamas that overthrows them for bringing a needless war to Gaza, but the nature of Hamas is such that they are more than willing to gun down or intimidate any resistance to their leadership. Nor did Israel get the unconditional release of Gilad Shalit.

PM Olmert thought he could fight this war on the cheap. Just as not fighting to victory in 2006 led to the civilian and military deaths and injuries in this war, unless Hamas is overthrown, his failure to see the job through will bring yet another war. Hamas has said they will rearm, Israel says they will prevent it. Israel prevented Hezbollah form rearming after 2006, while Gaza does not have a border with Syria, they managed to get in a decent arsenal. If Israel takes the steps to actually prevent rearmament, ok, but past performance gives one little confidence of a solid outcome. The Israeli public is going to crush his party in upcoming elections. An deservedly so, when you repeat the same military mistake twice, you reap the whirlwind.

Now supposedly, Israel has sent Hamas a "price list." A list of things Israel will do if Hamas commits certain acts. But one of the lessons of this war is how completely indifferent Hamas is to their people's suffering. Iran really does not care how bad things are for Palestinians and Hamas is OK with it too.

Part of war is symbolism. When you think of WWII you think of MacArthur accepting Japan's surrender on the deck of the Missouri and the Russian flag flying over the Rheichstag and more recently, the toppling of Saddam's statue in Baghdad. Israel's failure to deliver a complete defeat image, like a picture of a Centurion tank at the Suez Canal, will lead to more lost lives, Israeli and Palestinian.

Worst of all, stopping short betrayed Gilad Shalit and makes the sacrifice of Israel's soldiers all for nothing. On one hand, the IDF did get back its reputation as a force to be reckoned with, but Israel's leadership gained no credibility from this outcome.

Yes it is a nice thing so few fell in battle but it is at the cost of others who will doe finishing a job that should have been done now.

Israel may have gained some deterrence but at a terrible price, the promise of another war with an implacable enemy and at the cost of massive backlash against Israel and the Jewish community worldwide.

691 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:13:30am

re: #685 Nevergiveup

Sources: Ryan to become Jets coach

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

As a Jet Fan, why is it I am sure this will be an abysmal disaster?

Probably should have held off and talked to Gruden.

692 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:14:01am

re: #687 Kenneth

My son caused a bit of a scene in a women's clothing store on the weekend when he pointed at an undressed mannequin and declared,

LOL. How old id he?

693 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:14:11am

re: #683 bellamags

LIKE THIS?

Oh, yes. Much better. Far superior on the cute scale. Although the flappy one takes higher points with a huge earspan.

694 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:14:48am

re: #686 vxbush

I'm gonna guess we know less about that goes on in NK than we did about were Saddam hide the WMD.

695 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:15:20am

re: #681 abolitionist

"I'm giving you a ticket for committing a 911" -Fife

Sounds like the Dem's answer to Jihad.

696 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:15:40am

re: #693 vxbush

Oh, yes. Much better. Far superior on the cute scale. Although the flappy one takes higher points with a huge earspan.

The cutest dogs ...I had a boston ...love them ...I still cry when I think about him ...I want another one so bad but I have three dogs now ...

697 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:15:46am

re: #677 Nevergiveup

Very little is known about # 3 son, Jong Un. He's 24, attended school in Switzerland and has never been photographed, at least as far as is known.

698 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:16:13am

re: #692 bellamags

LOL. How old idis he?


woops

699 Pyrocles  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:16:22am

When will comedians feel "safe" to start making fun of Obama? Or will they ever? What will guys like Bill Maher and especially Jon Stewart do now, without Bush to ridicule? Bush really made these hacks into household names; without him, they'd be nothing. Will Obama forever be untouchable because of his race and party affiliation? Will we ever see deplorable stick-figure anti-Obama cartoons from Ted Rall?

Or will these "entertainers" and pundits continue to look under every rock for any Conservative or remaining Republican that they can find, just to make sure they've get them all and they never come back?

re: #97 TnTx13

Haha - don't hold your breath...

700 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:17:11am

re: #694 Nevergiveup

I'm gonna guess we know less about that goes on in NK than we did about were Saddam hide the WMD.

I can't argue with that.

701 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:17:23am

re: #682 realwest

Good morning LT - hey, why not start a countdown clock to January 20, 2013 instead?!

Sort of like this?

obamaclock.org

702 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:17:28am

re: #699 Pyrocles

When will comedians feel "safe" to start making fun of Obama? Or will they ever? What will guys like Bill Maher and especially Jon Stewart do now, without Bush to ridicule? Bush really made these hacks into household names; without him, they'd be nothing. Will Obama forever be untouchable because of his race and party affiliation? Will we ever see deplorable stick-figure anti-Obama cartoons from Ted Rall?

Or will these "entertainers" and pundits continue to look under every rock for any Conservative or remaining Republican that they can find, just to make sure they've get them all and they never come back?

They will never stop making fun of Bush. They still rag on Clinton for God's sake.

703 Stonemason  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:18:03am

re: #687 Kenneth

My son caused a bit of a scene in a women's clothing store on the weekend when he pointed at an undressed mannequin and declared,

Then it wasn't modeled after Hillary

704 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:18:25am

Bush making calls to world leaders
Published: 01.19.09, 15:55 / Israel News
On the day before leaving office, President George W. Bush talked by phone to a number of world leaders he has worked with during the past eight years.

The White House says Bush chatted Monday with the leaders of Georgia, Russia, South Korea, Denmark and Italy. (AP)

Call to Israel: " Your on your own"!

705 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:18:58am

re: #666 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT - we're all the way up to 34! Snow predicted for tomorrow though.

706 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:19:06am

re: #703 Stonemason

Then it wasn't modeled after Hillary

I doubt she has a penis, just 2 gigantic balls?

707 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:19:21am

re: #687 Kenneth

My son caused a bit of a scene in a women's clothing store on the weekend when he pointed at an undressed mannequin and declared,

Err... is he used to people who have both?

/not that there is anything wrong with that. :-)

708 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:19:42am

re: #690 ayatollah ghilmeini

Excellent summation as usual, and it's backed up by reports from Israel that Israeli soldiers were upset that they were being pulled off the line prematurely. Israel had Hamas on the ropes, and once again political considerations trumped the possibility to send Hamas to the dustbin of history.

Instead, Gaza will be consigned to more misery at the hands of Hamas, who have already declared a glorious victory against Israel among the ruins. They're already full-tilt propagandizing that they suffered only minor damage - 48 terrorists dead among the more than 1,000 dead.

Israel will be back in Gaza again, to repeat this tragicomedy once again. Only when Israel's political class musters the courage to fight to victory will real peace be attainable. Until then, it's just a pipe dream no matter how smart the diplomats think they are.

709 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:19:45am

re: #706 Nevergiveup

I doubt she has a penis, just 2 gigantic balls?

sick

710 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:21:14am

re: #678 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Yep. Absolutely!
:)

711 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:21:25am

re: #701 Honorary Yooper

Sort of like this?

obamaclock.org

That's a good one, I was hoping for an app I can put on my Mac desktop so I can give morning updates. :-)

Easy to find Bush clocks and WinDoze ones, Mac is proving trickier.

712 Chicken Kiev  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:21:32am

#699

When will comedians feel "safe" to start making fun of Obama?

I fear that they never will. For hundreds of years, politicians have been prime targets for comedians, but now that the moonbats control the media and popular culture, I think they've elected their own sacred cow.

A populace that cannot and will not laugh at its head of state is a populace living in a dictatorship. You know what happened to Chinese who laughed at Mao Zedong during those fabulous 1960s, don't you?

They were executed.

713 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:21:54am

re: #665 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Caroline the 'certain pick?' - I guess it's pretty damned safe to say the US has completely derailed.

That so pisses me off. B Hussein's not changing a damn thing. All of this perpetuates rewards based on race or family name, anything but merits, qualifications, and experience.

714 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:23:04am

re: #686 vxbush

Nobody knows for sure. But dictatorial regimes like NoKo are not pure autocracies. Kim maintained power by lavishing gifts & favors on a circle of sycophants. These are high party officials who run the army, the secret police and industry, including the lucrative drug & counterfeiting operations. Power is spread around the top circle of the regime with nobody having too much control on his own. That way they are all dependent on each other for survival.

My speculation is that Kim Jong Il has been too weak to do his job, which is telling people what to do. The top circle of leaders have been running things while they argued who should rule next. Nobody emerged as a front-runner, so the compromise position is to appoint one of Kim's sons. His 2 oldest sons are total f*ck-ups, so the job goes to #3. Frankly, I bet the kid would rather have a job at Starbucks, but it's not an offer he can turn down.

715 Cathypop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:23:04am

re: #706 Nevergiveup

I doubt she has a penis, just 2 gigantic balls?

So thats where her hubby's balls went.

716 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:23:26am

re: #692 bellamags

Almost 4.

717 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:23:33am

re: #687 Kenneth

My son caused a bit of a scene in a women's clothing store on the weekend when he pointed at an undressed mannequin and declared,

"Mommy, that statue has boobies but it doesn't have a penis!"

Yes, Son, that's a Michael Moore doll.

718 Pyrocles  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:23:49am

Had "fun" at dinner for my Father's birthday last night. Wow boy... My once Conservative Father is so infatuated with Barrack, who he's on an exclusively first-name basis with, that he actually believes he must be somehow related to him. He's putting together a family tree, and discovered the name "Dunham" in my family's pas - the last name of Obama's grandmother... So obviously, we're related to the Obamas! Brilliant!

He was so excited by this revelation all night... He couldn't wait to get home from the restaurant to watch his "cousin" Barrack on MSNBC. I hope he doesn't do something to get the Secret Service called on his ass...

719 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:23:52am

re: #713 ciaospirit

That so pisses me off. B Hussein's not changing a damn thing. All of this perpetuates rewards based on race or family name, anything but merits, qualifications, and experience.

Welcome to the 21st century. America has designated its aristocracy.

720 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:26:16am

Fro Tim Blair's blog

Hamas rally is Melbourne, and just look at that banner! Hate speech is perfectly OK unless it's against the ROP it seems

This is quite scary, especially as Hitler seems to have been forgiven by some - or in the case of Hamas supporters, always the hero

721 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:26:19am

re: #718 Pyrocles

Had "fun" at dinner for my Father's birthday last night. Wow boy... My once Conservative Father is so infatuated with Barrack, who he's on an exclusively first-name basis with, that he actually believes he must be somehow related to him. He's putting together a family tree, and discovered the name "Dunham" in my family's pas - the last name of Obama's grandmother... So obviously, we're related to the Obamas! Brilliant!

He was so excited by this revelation all night... He couldn't wait to get home from the restaurant to watch his "cousin" Barrack on MSNBC. I hope he doesn't do something to get the Secret Service called on his ass...

Oh. I am sorry. I feel a "Da Vinci Code" type hysteria coming on.

722 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:27:10am

re: #714 Kenneth

Nobody knows for sure. But dictatorial regimes like NoKo are not pure autocracies. Kim maintained power by lavishing gifts & favors on a circle of sycophants. These are high party officials who run the army, the secret police and industry, including the lucrative drug & counterfeiting operations. Power is spread around the top circle of the regime with nobody having too much control on his own. That way they are all dependent on each other for survival.

My speculation is that Kim Jong Il has been too weak to do his job, which is telling people what to do. The top circle of leaders have been running things while they argued who should rule next. Nobody emerged as a front-runner, so the compromise position is to appoint one of Kim's sons. His 2 oldest sons are total f*ck-ups, so the job goes to #3. Frankly, I bet the kid would rather have a job at Starbucks, but it's not an offer he can turn down.

No, I suppose not. Abdicating would result in death, no doubt.

723 akak  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:27:24am

re: #690 ayatollah ghilmeini

Cheap Wars

So Israel is pulling out. They killed roughly 5-10% of Hamas' fighters, injured about 10-20% and put many of the remainder to flight. Israel scored what is called a post-modern victory. That is where you go in with vague objectives, really kick ass and then march out declaring victory but not completely annihilating the enemy. He who fights and pulls away... gets to fight Hamas some other day. Israel's leaders figured that with 13 soldiers dead, only a few by enemy fire, it was time to leave.

Predictably, Hamas has declared victory and their intention to rearm. Hamas may have learned a lesson from this war. The problem is they also may not be deterred. Time will tell. Past examples show leaving before the job is done just gets you another war. Just ask Saddam about Gulf War I. Perhaps there will be a people's rebellion against Hamas that overthrows them for bringing a needless war to Gaza, but the nature of Hamas is such that they are more than willing to gun down or intimidate any resistance to their leadership. Nor did Israel get the unconditional release of Gilad Shalit.

PM Olmert thought he could fight this war on the cheap. Just as not fighting to victory in 2006 led to the civilian and military deaths and injuries in this war, unless Hamas is overthrown, his failure to see the job through will bring yet another war. Hamas has said they will rearm, Israel says they will prevent it. Israel prevented Hezbollah form rearming after 2006, while Gaza does not have a border with Syria, they managed to get in a decent arsenal. If Israel takes the steps to actually prevent rearmament, ok, but past performance gives one little confidence of a solid outcome. The Israeli public is going to crush his party in upcoming elections. An deservedly so, when you repeat the same military mistake twice, you reap the whirlwind.

Now supposedly, Israel has sent Hamas a "price list." A list of things Israel will do if Hamas commits certain acts. But one of the lessons of this war is how completely indifferent Hamas is to their people's suffering. Iran really does not care how bad things are for Palestinians and Hamas is OK with it too.

Part of war is symbolism. When you think of WWII you think of MacArthur accepting Japan's surrender on the deck of the Missouri and the Russian flag flying over the Rheichstag and more recently, the toppling of Saddam's statue in Baghdad. Israel's failure to deliver a complete defeat image, like a picture of a Centurion tank at the Suez Canal, will lead to more lost lives, Israeli and Palestinian.

Worst of all, stopping short betrayed Gilad Shalit and makes the sacrifice of Israel's soldiers all for nothing. On one hand, the IDF did get back its reputation as a force to be reckoned with, but Israel's leadership gained no credibility from this outcome.

Yes it is a nice thing so few fell in battle but it is at the cost of others who will doe finishing a job that should have been done now.

Israel may have gained some deterrence but at a terrible price, the promise of another war with an implacable enemy and at the cost of massive backlash against Israel and the Jewish community worldwide.

What role did Obama play in this?

724 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:27:45am

re: #719 vxbush

Welcome to the 21st century. America has designated its aristocracy.

NO EXPERIENCE REQUIRED.

725 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:27:47am

Okay, I'm in the kitchen with my laptop; I'm going to start on those muffins. Back in a bit.

726 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:27:48am

re: #701 Honorary Yooper
Yeah! Damn, that's really not as "uplifting" to my spirits as I hoped it would be.
Sigh.
It's gonna be a LOOONG four years.

727 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:29:21am

re: #719 vxbush

Welcome to the 21st century. America has designated its aristocracy.

It's good to be a Kennedy, Clinton, Bush, Cuomo...

/I hate aristocrats.

728 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:29:28am

re: #692 bellamags
How old is he? Uh, 37.
/

729 Stonemason  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:30:05am

re: #719 vxbush

Welcome to the 21st century. America has designated its aristocracy.

It has been that way for a long time, the Rich Aristocracy running things. Heck, the greatest President since maybe Lincoln was a rich aging actor. So far though, our rich have loved the country, I think Clinton may have, not the wife, and they have not destroyed the greatest country on earth.
I think that as the Congress becomes more aristocratic we are in for problems, but...

Still the greatest nation on earth!

730 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:30:30am

re: #728 realwest

How old is he? Uh, 37.
/

LOL. reminds me of a movie I saw last night "Step Brothers" with Will Farrell.

731 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:31:06am

re: #730 bellamags

LOL. reminds me of a movie I saw last night "Step Brothers" with Will Farrell.

Watch out for the drum set!

732 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:32:07am

re: #708 lawhawk

Excellent summation as usual, and it's backed up by reports from Israel that Israeli soldiers were upset that they were being pulled off the line prematurely. Israel had Hamas on the ropes, and once again political considerations trumped the possibility to send Hamas to the dustbin of history.

Instead, Gaza will be consigned to more misery at the hands of Hamas, who have already declared a glorious victory against Israel among the ruins. They're already full-tilt propagandizing that they suffered only minor damage - 48 terrorists dead among the more than 1,000 dead.

Israel will be back in Gaza again, to repeat this tragicomedy once again. Only when Israel's political class musters the courage to fight to victory will real peace be attainable. Until then, it's just a pipe dream no matter how smart the diplomats think they are.

they have all the physical courage and the skills and the hardware to do what they must but they are just chicken shit wimps for not taking on the UN and ignoring the proaganda used against them...they are allowing fantasy to dictate reality...just like the rest of us...it's all a huge fakeout and people die by the boatload

733 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:32:48am

re: #690 ayatollah ghilmeini


Part of war is symbolism. When you think of WWII you think of MacArthur accepting Japan's surrender on the deck of the Missouri and the Russian flag flying over the Rheichstag and more recently, the toppling of Saddam's statue in Baghdad. Israel's failure to deliver a complete defeat image, like a picture of a Centurion tank at the Suez Canal, will lead to more lost lives, Israeli and Palestinian.

Taking nothing away from the rest of your post, but the passage above is a particularly well written and insightful comment.

Kudos.

734 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:33:22am

President Bush, pardon Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

Ex-Border Patrol Agents Await Word of Bush Pardon While in Prison

This is long overdue!

Good morning, Lizards.

735 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:33:54am

re: #690 ayatollah ghilmeini

I good analysis, but... this operation was not a war in isolation. It was one battle in an ongoing war. The battle with Hezbollah in 2006 was another. These are preliminary battles whose true objective is to shape the battlefield for the coming big war with Iran. The 2006 battle showed Israel they needed to improve their methods & tactics. The Gaza battle showed that Israel learned well.

736 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:34:13am

re: #708 lawhawk
And #690 ayatollah ghilmeini
I just don't understand this, from a purely political side.
IIRC, the fight against Hamas had a 94% approval rating in Israel. Elections are coming up very soon in Israel. Why on earth would Olmert call off the assault on Hamas now, when he had SO MUCH political backing and popular goodwill for this war?
This is, of course, seperate and apart from the military reasons why it was frankly STUPID to stop fighting Hamas now.

737 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:34:53am

Aussie Magpie,

You still there?

738 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:35:18am

re: #731 Wyatt Earp

Watch out for the drum set!

Why are you all sweaty?

739 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:35:32am

Greetings & Salutations as we sit on the cusp of Year One of Our Obama.
The hype is getting nauseating.
Nobody can meet these expectations & if Obama ever gets in touch with his mortal seide, you wonder if he ever thinks, "Oh shit!"

740 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:36:17am

re: #739 opnion

Greetings & Salutations as we sit on the cusp of Year One of Our Obama.
The hype is getting nauseating.
Nobody can meet these expectations & if Obama ever gets in touch with his mortal seide, you wonder if he ever thinks, "Oh shit!"

Pretty sure he said that right after his first Intel briefing ...

741 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:36:24am

re: #736 realwest

And #690 ayatollah ghilmeini
I just don't understand this, from a purely political side.
IIRC, the fight against Hamas had a 94% approval rating in Israel. Elections are coming up very soon in Israel. Why on earth would Olmert call off the assault on Hamas now, when he had SO MUCH political backing and popular goodwill for this war?
This is, of course, seperate and apart from the military reasons why it was frankly STUPID to stop fighting Hamas now.

they are affraid of BO, the UN and world opinion...what else can it be?

742 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:37:11am

re: #713 ciaospirit
Good morning ciaospirit! "All of this perpetuates rewards based on race or family name, anything but merits, qualifications, and experience." well, this IS at bottom, about Obama, no? So, what's your point?!
;')

743 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:38:14am

re: #729 Stonemason

Heretofore, the rich have always felt that making the country bigger, stronger, wealthier and with a higher overall standard of living was in their best interest.

For example, Henry Ford figured out it was good business to pay his people enough so that they might be able to afford one of his cars.

Today, the rich are still of that mind (except the government is determined to destroy their ability to do the above self-interest good deeds.

The problem with the current aristocrats while rich, their blood line pass down is raw power over the rest of us plebes. It's a different feel, having trouble putting it into words.

And then there is George Soros... who wants to wreck the country to further his interests.

744 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:38:21am

re: #737 Aussie Stinger

Aussie Magpie,

You still there?

Yes, still hanging in...it's after 2.30am but who cares :-)

My patients in the morning that's who :-) I have at least 7 vaccinations lined up and my hands better not be shaky...

745 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:38:58am

re: #734 jorline

President Bush, pardon Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

Ex-Border Patrol Agents Await Word of Bush Pardon While in Prison

This is long overdue!

Good morning, Lizards.

About time...

746 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:39:25am

re: #734 jorline

President Bush, pardon Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

Ex-Border Patrol Agents Await Word of Bush Pardon While in Prison

This is long overdue!

Good morning, Lizards.

I hope it happens. I've been a supporter from day one, but the article said this.

But those on the other end of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue said they've had no official word from the White House that a pardon was going to be given.

747 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:39:46am

re: #736 realwest

One speculation is Olmert didn't want to cause a mess during Obama's coronation. I don't imagine Israel expects Hamas to not re-arm. The IDF will be watching and planning the next operation.

748 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:40:03am

re: #739 opnion

Greetings & Salutations as we sit on the cusp of Year One of Our Obama.
The hype is getting nauseating.
Nobody can meet these expectations & if Obama ever gets in touch with his mortal seide, you wonder if he ever thinks, "Oh shit!"

If you're a blogger, it's even worse. You can't find a story out there that doesn't deal with The Obamaton's inauguration. Just end it already!

749 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:40:37am

re: #746 ciaospirit


Won't happen, unfortunately, and you know Obama won't pardon them, either.

750 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:40:58am

re: #714 Kenneth
" His 2 oldest sons are total f*ck-ups, so the job goes to #3. Frankly, I bet the kid would rather have a job at Starbucks, but it's not an offer he can turn down."
Huh. Maybe the kid will escape to the West and seek asylum!

751 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:41:27am

Elections Aren't Democracy

Washington Post Obama interview, via Hot Air.

752 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:41:44am

re: #723 akak

What role did Obama play in this?

Obama was a community organizer on the south side of Gaza. Oh wait, that was the South side of Chicago. Nevermind.

Seriously, I think Obama stayed silent on the recent conflict. I'm curious to know why as I can think of both pro-Israel and pro-Hamas reasons for him doing so.

753 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:42:06am

re: #748 Wyatt Earp

If you're a blogger, it's even worse. You can't find a story out there that doesn't deal with The Obamaton's inauguration. Just end it already!


Hello Wyatt E, just come on down here :-)

Ausie Open Aussie Open Aussie Open Cricket Cricket Cricket...

Obama Who?

754 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:42:25am

re: #747 Kenneth

I don't think it's speculation. It was widely reported in the Hebrew press yesterday.

755 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:43:03am

re: #753 aussiemagpie

Hello Wyatt E, just come on down here :-)

Ausie Open Aussie Open Aussie Open Cricket Cricket Cricket...

Obama Who?

I'll take it!

756 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:43:12am

re: #747 Kenneth

One speculation is Olmert didn't want to cause a mess during Obama's coronation. I don't imagine Israel expects Hamas to not re-arm. The IDF will be watching and planning the next operation.

that's not speculation bro...Olmert said so in so many words...Israel is just kissing BOs ass...submiting to him

757 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:43:24am

re: #751 jwb7605

Elections Aren't Democracy

Washington Post Obama interview, via Hot Air.

The gift that keeps giving.

758 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:43:29am

re: #745 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

About time...

Hasn't happened yet...

GWB can give them the freedom they deserve and swore to protect. Ramos and Compean were watching our borders while everyone in Washington was asleep at the wheel.

759 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:43:52am

re: #756 albusteve

GMTA!

760 akak  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:44:21am

re: #747 Kenneth

One speculation is Olmert didn't want to cause a mess during Obama's coronation. I don't imagine Israel expects Hamas to not re-arm. The IDF will be watching and planning the next operation.

I agree, goodwill gesture to Obama(pulling out of Gaza) is bullshit.

Got the objective's complete, bullshit.

World opinion, bullshit.

Obama gave two weeks grace, and time ran out.

761 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:45:18am

re: #720 aussiemagpie
Huh, that's just nauseating - can't y'all organize an e-mail or snail mail writing campagin about that shit?
I mean, as long as no one complains about it, it's only gonna get worse and worse. And the more massive the campaign against it the better.

762 Stonemason  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:45:38am

re: #743 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Heretofore, the rich have always felt that making the country bigger, stronger, wealthier and with a higher overall standard of living was in their best interest.

For example, Henry Ford figured out it was good business to pay his people enough so that they might be able to afford one of his cars.

Today, the rich are still of that mind (except the government is determined to destroy their ability to do the above self-interest good deeds.

The problem with the current aristocrats while rich, their blood line pass down is raw power over the rest of us plebes. It's a different feel, having trouble putting it into words.

And then there is George Soros... who wants to wreck the country to further his interests.

I do agree with you sir, the new crop of rich are not as in love with America as the old crop. I guess my point is that we need to energize the right rich people, help them navigate the slime that is politics, and get ourselves off the socialism train.

763 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:46:08am

re: #746 ciaospirit

The article is from January 2007. Let's hope the pardon is further along.

764 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:46:14am

re: #744 aussiemagpie

Yes, still hanging in...it's after 2.30am but who cares :-)

My patients in the morning that's who :-) I have at least 7 vaccinations lined up and my hands better not be shaky...

___

Aussie Magpie,

Terrible news.

A few days ago, a very close relative was KIA in Afghanistan:

[Link: www.defence.gov.au...]

I'm sure you saw it on the news. He is the first Jewish Australian soldier to die in combat since WWII.

Please leave a message:
[Link: www.gregsher.com...]

Our lives are shattered.

765 itellu3times  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:46:21am

re: #733 DeafDog

Taking nothing away from the rest of your post, but the passage above is a particularly well written and insightful comment.

And the same applies to our adventure in Iraq.

766 ciaospirit  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:46:22am

re: #742 realwest

Hi, RW. I've noticed that we are being ruled, not represented. Tomorrow will be the crowning glory. Entitlement takes the throne.

767 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:47:22am

re: #758 jorline

If GWB leaves them in prison, it will break what faith I still have in him. C'mon Mr. Compassionate Conservative, you let them spend us straight into the ground, do something righteous here.

768 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:47:37am

re: #730 bellamags
I don't think I've heard of that movie! (I do need to get out more, I know!). Was it any good?

769 vapig  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:47:38am

re: #734 jorline

President Bush, pardon Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

Ex-Border Patrol Agents Await Word of Bush Pardon While in Prison

This is long overdue!

Good morning, Lizards.

I was wondering if he was waiting until the 11th hour to do this. My only question would be why?

770 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:48:24am

re: #740 JacksonTn


Pretty sure he said that right after his first Intel briefing ...


Probably. Even Obama has to realise that his campaign was mostly bull.
He is going to really have to rely on advisers.

771 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:48:25am

re: #767 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

If GWB leaves them in prison, it will break what faith I still have in him. C'mon Mr. Compassionate Conservative, you let them spend us straight into the ground, do something righteous here.

Totally agree, Vet.

773 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:48:52am

re: #756 albusteve

Maybe kissing but, or maybe good diplomatic sensitivity. No point in starting off the relationship on a sour note. Lord knows Obama is not going to be a solid supporter of Israel, but there's no point in pissing on his party.

Remember, contrary to what they say in public, Egypt, Jordan & Saudi Arabia are pleased as punch at the drubbing Hamas just got.

Question: did any IDF tanks get destroyed? Hamas, with Iranian help, was supposed to be able to do this, but they failed.

774 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:49:41am
775 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:50:50am

re: #772 Alouette

Crowd in Moscow chants "Israel we are with you!"

Ho. Lee. Crap!

776 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:51:25am

re: #769 vapig

I was wondering if he was waiting until the 11th hour to do this. My only question would be why?

he's not gonna do it...he's using these two to pay a debt...something nasty going on about this...obviously he doesnt want to stiff the prosector...why is the question

777 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:51:26am

One thing I have noticed about the economy - a lot of companies are taking advantage of the situation to eliminate jobs, cut pay and benefits. They know people are scared and won't argue with the cuts if it means they get to keep their jobs. I know two people who are going to have to take a 10% pay cut. Their companies are also eliminating 401k contributions and taking away benefits. If this keeps up, there is going to be a lot less DISPOSABLE income out there. This is the absolute worst thing these companies could do at a time like this.

778 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:51:31am

re: #734 jorline Good morning jorline! How are you feeling today?
So who do we e-mail today, NOW, to get them pardoned?

779 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:52:31am

re: #755 Wyatt Earp

I'll take it!

LOL! I lied, we have some of our MSM slobbering about Obama, but most Aussies care more about the cricket and tennis at this time :-)

And two of our free to air TV channels are broadcasting the coronation live- first time ever!

I don't think many Aussies will be up at 4am to watch - I mean it's not as if the Aussies are playing a cricket Test match or something important like that :-)

780 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:52:32am

re: #762 Stonemason

I do agree with you sir, the new crop of rich are not as in love with America as the old crop. I guess my point is that we need to energize the right rich people, help them navigate the slime that is politics, and get ourselves off the socialism train.

The patriotic, pro-growth rich are (or soon will be) being destroyed by the socialist engine. Obama will fund his reparations program and other projects he's keeping mum about by wealth confiscation the likes of which we have never seen.

781 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:53:32am

re: #773 Kenneth

Maybe kissing but, or maybe good diplomatic sensitivity. No point in starting off the relationship on a sour note. Lord knows Obama is not going to be a solid supporter of Israel, but there's no point in pissing on his party.

Remember, contrary to what they say in public, Egypt, Jordan & Saudi Arabia are pleased as punch at the drubbing Hamas just got.

Question: did any IDF tanks get destroyed? Hamas, with Iranian help, was supposed to be able to do this, but they failed.

no point in pissing on his party?...what if a Kassam kills or maims an Israeli?...how do you reconcile that?...you're dreaming

782 SlartyBartfast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:53:32am

re: #751 jwb7605

Elections Aren't Democracy

Washington Post Obama interview, via Hot Air.

...oftentimes an election can just backfire or at least won't deliver for the people the kinds of -- it may raise expectations but not deliver what they're looking for.

If only he knew the profound and unfortunate truth of that statement...but I fear that he has no clue.

783 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:53:41am

re: #774 Iron Fist

Sharansky had a good article about real victory last week. I can't remember where, but it was about how when the suicide bombers were at their peak-Israel launched Defensive Shield-and the world went ballistic, blah blah war crimes, blah blah genocide, JENIN, etc..but now the West Bank is prosperous-safe and the suicide bombings are largely a bad memory.

784 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:53:43am
785 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:54:44am

re: #769 vapig

I was wondering if he was waiting until the 11th hour to do this. My only question would be why?

Let's hope they're on the 11th hour long list. Makes you sick when you compare them to Clinton's pardons.

Rich had been indicted in 1983 on charges of tax evasion and illegal trading with Iran. Rich fled to Switzerland and never stood trial.

Before Rich received the pardon in January 2001, his former wife, Denise Rich, contributed $70,000 to a fund supporting Hillary Clinton's Senate bid, and also made a large contribution to the Clinton presidential library.

I know who I would want in a foxhole watching my back.

786 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:54:50am

re: #768 realwest

I don't think I've heard of that movie! (I do need to get out more, I know!). Was it any good?

I just sat there with my mouth open for most of the movie because a lot of it was so shocking. You have to have a dark sense of humor. It is good, but sometimes you need to watch movies like that more than once to really get it. A lot of it was ad lib. Will Farrell is just one of my faves.

Its about two grown men still living at home with their newly married parents. They had to learn to get along and they had to grow up.

787 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:55:03am

Pakistani Taliban: 'Suicide bombers are the atomic weapons of Muslims'

"I'm going to do this suicide bombing with Islamic sentiments," a teenage suicide bomber named Masood who was involved with the Lahore attack said. "Suicide bombers are the atomic weapons of Muslims because Muslims do not have the latest weapons to fight enemies who are committing atrocities against Muslims in Kashmir, Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq."

Another schmuck who didn't get the ROP memo, I guess.

788 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:55:11am

re: #784 Iron Fist

I spent a family dinner yesterday where The Messiah was the topic of discussion. I just want the whole effing day over with. I'm just SICK about it all. I had to warn people: if you want to keep this dinner civil-stay away from Palin and Bush.

789 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:55:49am

re: #777 bellamags

One thing I have noticed about the economy - a lot of companies are taking advantage of the situation to eliminate jobs, cut pay and benefits. They know people are scared and won't argue with the cuts if it means they get to keep their jobs. I know two people who are going to have to take a 10% pay cut. Their companies are also eliminating 401k contributions and taking away benefits. If this keeps up, there is going to be a lot less DISPOSABLE income out there. This is the absolute worst thing these companies could do at a time like this.

Bellamags -
I'm not sure about that.
It could be the company has a choice of reducing pay and benefits, OR laying people off entirely, and has chosen to try to keep people employed instead of unemployed.

Companies that do this, however, would do well to make arrangements to restore the lost pay and benefits when (IF) the economy turns back around.

790 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:56:00am

re: #761 realwest

Huh, that's just nauseating - can't y'all organize an e-mail or snail mail writing campagin about that shit?
I mean, as long as no one complains about it, it's only gonna get worse and worse. And the more massive the campaign against it the better.

Unfortunately, like elsewhere, Muslims are a protected species ...

Hamas supporters and their blinkered Western idiot hangers on have a free key to the city here

However, I cannot see ordinary Aussies having a bar of it if it escalates any

791 kcladderman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:56:03am

re: #764 Aussie Stinger

There are no magical words to make you feel better,though I wish there were.
Just know I am very sorry for your loss and always remember he is a true Hero.

792 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:56:27am

re: #772 Alouette

Crowd in Moscow chants "Israel we are with you!"

WOW

793 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:56:57am

re: #747 Kenneth
Well I'm sure that "The IDF will be watching and planning the next operation." but that's not as good as finishing them off NOW.
With Obama in the WH it's gonna be A LOT HARDER for Israel to get "pro-active" instead of diplomatic in this ongoing war. Hamas top leadership and it's rocket/weapons suppliers have to be gotten at now.
But, it really is Israel's mess to deal with; I love and support Israel dearly, but I have no vote and no say in what Israel chooses to do here.

794 vapig  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:57:19am

re: #776 albusteve

he's not gonna do it...he's using these two to pay a debt...something nasty going on about this...obviously he doesnt want to stiff the prosector...why is the question

That's outrageous! The prosecuter is the one who should be rotting behind bars, not these two heros!

This really surprises me about Bush. Whether I agree or disagree with him on any given issue, I've always thought of him as a man of principle and integrity and not as a filthy politician.

795 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:57:42am

re: #778 realwest

Good morning jorline! How are you feeling today?
So who do we e-mail today, NOW, to get them pardoned?

Good morning, RW. I'm well, thanks...how is your mother?

I'm sending emails to the White House and my Senators. I'm up for other suggestions.

796 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:58:03am

re: #789 reine.de.tout

Bellamags -
I'm not sure about that.
It could be the company has a choice of reducing pay and benefits, OR laying people off entirely, and has chosen to try to keep people employed instead of unemployed.

Companies that do this, however, would do well to make arrangements to restore the lost pay and benefits when (IF) the economy turns back around.

I thought about that, but one of these companies has not been really affected by the economy. It is a smaller company and I know the person who handles the money. She said the economy really hasn't affected them.

797 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:58:08am

re: #781 albusteve

no point in pissing on his party?...what if a Kassam kills or maims an Israeli?...how do you reconcile that?...you're dreaming

I'm not advocating one strategy or the other, I'm just trying to speculate as to what the motivation of the Israeli cabinet was. One thing I'm sure of, there is a lot more going on quietly behind the scenes than we know about. I'm not about to second guess the people who have to make these decisions and live with them.

798 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:58:11am

re: #758 jorline

Hasn't happened yet...

GWB can give them the freedom they deserve and swore to protect. Ramos and Compean were watching our borders while everyone in Washington was asleep at the wheel.


I have always thought that these Border Patrol guys were victims of a hidden agenda.
Industry wants cheap labor & the benefits supplied by the taxpayer & the Dem's want the votes. To the eliteist class border protection look s over zealous.

799 Dianna  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:58:59am

re: #793 realwest

It always seems to go back to "win the damned war!"

800 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:59:26am

re: #796 bellamags

I thought about that, but one of these companies has not been really affected by the economy. It is a smaller company and I know the person who handles the money. She said the economy really hasn't affected them.

Ah. Not good, then.

801 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:59:35am

re: #752 DeafDog
Obama said he didn't want to comment as he didn't want "different or mixed signals" appearing to come from the President and the President-Elect". I think that about says all we need to know. If he supported Bush and Israel he could have simply said "I support President Bush in this crisis."

802 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:00:20am

re: #784 Iron Fist

I considered slitting my wrists, but I didn't want to damage my tattoos. I'm looking forward to the Obamessiah taking office with the same enthusiasm as I would have if they were going to give me a ground glass enema.

LOL. I still think you should take your show on the road.

803 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:00:32am

Yikes! We've started the next Scrabble game! Sorry, folks, that takes precedence. :D

804 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:00:34am

re: #793 realwest

I would be thrilled if the IDF was watching from their drones to see if & when the Hamas commanders crawl out of the hospital where they've been hiding and then...blammo!...send a hellfire up their filthy asses.

Not that it will happen, but it would be justice.

805 Dianna  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:00:55am

re: #801 realwest

Obama couldn't bring himself to say any such thing. For one thing, much of his base hates Bush too much.

806 fish  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:01:21am

I heard about this contest to create a 6 word Inaugural address. So here is what I imagine the One will be thinking tomorrow in 6 words:

"Bite me, I won. You're Screwed."

808 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:01:24am

re: #791 kcladderman

There are no magical words to make you feel better,though I wish there were.
Just know I am very sorry for your loss and always remember he is a true Hero.

___

Thank you so much.

809 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:01:34am

While I hope The One falls flat on his "above his pay grade" face (I don't follow the "want him to succeed" pap... the country will do better if he fails and doesn't implement his programs)...

but I'm praying my ass off that Tuesday goes off without a hitch. If some moron turns his head into a canal, he will be elevated to sainthood as our greatest president without ever accomplishing anything in his entire life or serving a day in office.

810 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:02:19am

re: #798 opnion

I have always thought that these Border Patrol guys were victims of a hidden agenda.
Industry wants cheap labor & the benefits supplied by the taxpayer & the Dem's want the votes. To the eliteist class border protection look s over zealous.

I lived five miles from the Mexican border for thirteen years. The Border Patrol agents work their ass off only to fall victim to a BS system.

It's like bass fishing...catch and release. No Bass Master payoff though.

811 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:02:22am

re: #800 reine.de.tout

Ah. Not good, then.

But I do agree with you for the most part. I am sure most are cutting instead of firing. There will always be dishonest elements taking advantage of situations. They do not care if it will make a situation worse.

812 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:02:32am
813 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:02:52am

Coming out to a whole new world

This is a good article.
I'm certainly not a musician, but "Jude" says a lot of things I feel.
(and I'm not even in hiding)

814 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:02:57am

re: #806 fish

I heard about this contest to create a 6 word Inaugural address. So here is what I imagine the One will be thinking tomorrow in 6 words:

"Bite me, I won. You're Screwed."

That's seven words...

815 Dianna  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:03:15am

re: #807 Alouette

Chickens are traumatized by the sun coming up in the morning. How can they tell?

816 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:03:26am

re: #801 realwest

That was a very clear way for Obama to say he disagreed with Bush without actually saying it. You can be sure the Israelis were talking with Hillary, Jones & the rest of the Obama foreign policy team. They had a very good picture of what the new president is thinking.

817 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:03:33am

re: #752 DeafDog

Obama was a community organizer on the south side of Gaza. Oh wait, that was the South side of Chicago. Nevermind.

Well, the South Side of Chicago
Is the baddest part of town
And if you go down there
You better just beware
Of a man named Barry Brown
/sorry

818 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:03:54am
819 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:04:31am

re: #764 Aussie Stinger

___ ___

Aussie Magpie,

Terrible news.

A few days ago, a very close relative was KIA in Afghanistan:

[Link: www.defence.gov.au...]

I'm sure you saw it on the news. He is the first Jewish Australian soldier to die in combat since WWII.

Please leave a message:
[Link: www.gregsher.com...]

Our lives are shattered.


Aussie Stinger, my heartfelt condolences to you and your family

What a brave young man, and a hero

I will leave a message of course, and I'll pass this on to all my friends here

I also have a very sad story about a soldier in Afghanistan, my partners son in law, which I have not shared here

This was so traumatic for all of us, in particular my partners daughter Kylie who lost her brave husband, a bomb tech specialist

820 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:05:20am

re: #797 Kenneth

I'm not advocating one strategy or the other, I'm just trying to speculate as to what the motivation of the Israeli cabinet was. One thing I'm sure of, there is a lot more going on quietly behind the scenes than we know about. I'm not about to second guess the people who have to make these decisions and live with them.

that there is alot more going on behind the scenes is exactly the problem...will the US help arm Israel against her aggressors or not?...that is the only question that needs to be addressed...Gaza and the palis are their problem and everybody else is irrelevent...that's the truth...why go thru this merry go round of death any longer?...Israel cannot break the chain of denial with words and phony diplomacy...when someone overdoses on acid you dont give them more acid...

821 Dianna  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:05:24am

re: #812 ploome hineni

Good morning, ploome!

Good article.

822 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:05:43am

The only reason I can surmise Israeli leaders decided to call the unilateral ceasefire now is that they ran out of easily identifiable targets and targets that wouldn't cause undue civilian casualties.

Note how Hamas thugs are again wearing uniforms. It may simply be Israelis engaging in target acquisition for the next round. Anyone who puts on those Hamas uniforms identifies themselves as Hamas and are legitimate targets when Hamas resumes its attacks against Israel, which is inevitable.

Israel is simply standing by and taking names, notes, and target coordinates. They are watching and waiting.

823 akak  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:06:23am

Bill Ayers turned away at Canadian border! woot woot

824 ayatollah ghilmeini  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:06:32am

re: #774 Iron Fist

re: #741 albusteve

re: #736 realwest

re: #735 Kenneth

re: #723 akak

Thanks for the kudos- fast reply to you all:

Obama's arrival had more impact at the start of the war than its end. Obama is going to be so busy on other things that the war is the least of his concerns. My thinking is the Israel leaders pulled out to earn Obama's good will not because they are afraid he will take Hamas side.

They felt they have damaged Hamas enough and leaving now saves Obama getting hectored by the press. Hamas is in no condition to fight and, if you believe war with Iran is coming fast, Israel has little to worry about to the south.

The time to have won the war was last week. PM Olmert will go down as one of the great shitheads of all time.

825 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:06:35am

re: #794 vapig

That's outrageous! The prosecuter is the one who should be rotting behind bars, not these two heros!

This really surprises me about Bush. Whether I agree or disagree with him on any given issue, I've always thought of him as a man of principle and integrity and not as a filthy politician.

tfk knows the skinny about this...I'm just saying what he's been saying

826 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:06:39am

re: #764 Aussie Stinger

Oh now-how awful. May his memory be a blessing. What a beautiful man-what a courageous soul. I am so very sorry to hear this.

827 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:07:52am

Report: EU to lift sanctions on Hamas if Palestinian unity gov't formed

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

How that makes any difference I'll never know?

828 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:08:05am

re: #819 aussiemagpie

aussiemagpie! Just terrible...I am very sorry to hear about this news-I can understand you not wanting to share it, but please convey our uttmost sympathy to your family-and our admiration for that fine man's bravery and selflessness. We are with you in spirit.

829 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:08:38am
830 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:08:42am
831 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:08:55am

re: #810 jorline

I lived five miles from the Mexican border for thirteen years. The Border Patrol agents work their ass off only to fall victim to a BS system.

It's like bass fishing...catch and release. No Bass Master payoff though.


"Catch & Release " is a good analogy. The whole thing is outrageous.
Elements of the Mexican Army are helping the narco gangs, even to the point of shooting at Border Agents.
I knew that there was a huge problem when Eight years ago, Newsweek gauged the mood of voting blocs & illegal aliens was one of the groups.

832 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:09:25am

re: #818 Iron Fist

Where my girlfriend works they are doing some of that. Working overtime when you are on salary is effectively a pay cut when you look at your hourly compensation. Where I work is a bit more stable. We didn't get raises this year (I hadn't really expected one), but our Christmas gift from the CEO was as generous as always.

I'm very fortunate in my job. I could probably find similar work with more money, but I can't imagine a place that I could relax and just be myself at the way I can here. It's hard work, sometimes (startups always are), and the office environment hasn't always been up to par (I worked on a folding table for five years. I only got my first real desk last year). All of these problems can be ignored as long as the pay is good enough, and the environment is pleasant enough.

I've always liked startups because they are often much more relaxed; you're more focused on doing the job than on office politics. Much nicer.

833 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:10:01am

re: #827 Nevergiveup

Report: EU to lift sanctions on Hamas if Palestinian unity gov't formed

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

How that makes any difference I'll never know?

Because then the EU can claim that the money is going to an entity that isn't on their terror lists. The PA is an officially recognized entity, even though it is comprised entirely of Fatah and Hamas terrorists. Fatah terrorists have cleaned up their acts, but are no less interested in Israel's destruction than Hamas; they've just hit upon the 1000 papercuts strategy. Hamas continues the brute force approach, and we've seen the damage that does.

834 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:10:01am

Charles-two of our Australian lizards have friends, or relatives who have fallen in combat. Perhaps there could a short thread to offer support and condolences to the families and friends of these fine soldiers? Just a thought.

835 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:10:03am
836 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:10:19am

re: #822 lawhawk

The only reason I can surmise Israeli leaders decided to call the unilateral ceasefire now is that they ran out of easily identifiable targets and targets that wouldn't cause undue civilian casualties.

Note how Hamas thugs are again wearing uniforms. It may simply be Israelis engaging in target acquisition for the next round. Anyone who puts on those Hamas uniforms identifies themselves as Hamas and are legitimate targets when Hamas resumes its attacks against Israel, which is inevitable.

Israel is simply standing by and taking names, notes, and target coordinates. They are watching and waiting.

I suspect you are right...they may yet have the balls to press the fight...Hamas will fuck up for sure

837 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:10:36am

re: #835 ploome hineni

I posted a linky with audio in the spin-offs about this.

838 SlartyBartfast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:10:37am

re: #822 lawhawk

I hope you're right!

Here's a couple of tidbits from Haaretz...

06:42 Norwegian doctor says Israel used new type of weapon in Gaza (Haaretz)

09:29 Israeli officials: Gaza troop withdrawal to be completed by Obama`s inauguration (AP) [Well, praise the Lord! /sarc]

12:00 Livni: If Hamas fires Qassams at Israel, it will `get it` again (Haaretz)

12:57 Hamas claims only 48 of 1,300 Gazan fatalities were group militants (Reuters) [I guess most of the rest were "individual militants".]

839 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:10:38am

re: #819 aussiemagpie

Aussie Stinger, my heartfelt condolences to you and your family

What a brave young man, and a hero

I will leave a message of course, and I'll pass this on to all my friends here

I also have a very sad story about a soldier in Afghanistan, my partners son in law, which I have not shared here

This was so traumatic for all of us, in particular my partners daughter Kylie who lost her brave husband, a bomb tech specialist

___

Aussie Magpie,

Yes it was a tough one whether to share it here.

Hence I haven't mentioned the exact (and very close) relation to Greg, the latest soldier who was killed.

We are soon to be in touch with the other KIA families.

Perhaps we will speak through that channel.

Thank you for your kind words and thoughts.

840 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:10:41am

re: #608 realwest

Hey good morning 3 wood, how are you this morning?
Didja get my e-mail last night/very early this AM?!

Sorry for the delay, had to go teach a class.

I'll go check my email and be back in a minute.

841 Dianna  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:11:01am

re: #822 lawhawk

Hamas hasn't stopped attacking Israel, has it? Before I ended up having to do household stuff, the daily count of rockets was up to something like 20.

842 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:11:12am

Spike Lee: God crashed the markets to help Obama

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Is that the party line?

843 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:11:14am

re: #829 ploome hineni

Now that is cool! Thanks for the link.

844 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:11:22am

re: #823 akak

Hell Yes!

845 vapig  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:11:52am

re: #823 akak

Bill Ayers turned away at Canadian border! woot woot

Really? Do you have a link?

846 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:12:27am

re: #842 Nevergiveup

Spike Lee: God crashed the markets to help Obama

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Is that the party line?

More like Soros may have helped crash the markets ...Spike Lee? Yeah, there is a source for ya ...

847 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:12:44am

re: #790 aussiemagpie
With all respect {aussie} why on earth do ordinary Aussies having a bar of it if it escalates any have to WAIT for? That sign was a sign that was hostile to a religious group, an ethnic group and a call to genocide.
What the hell are the ordinary aussies waiting for? Leadership, maybe?
So start off with a letter writing campaign. Remind your countrymen and women what democracy stands for and what Australia stands for. ENOUGH IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.
(steps off soapbox, aplogizes to {aussie}, just disgusted with the way the "civilized world" gives crazy, murdering, calls to genocide s.o.b.'s the right to do that in THEIR OWN COUNTRY!).

848 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:12:53am

New Lizards to the thread...please see my #734 and do what you can for Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.

We have 24 hours to rattle the cages.

849 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:13:29am
850 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:13:35am

re: #801 realwest

Obama said he didn't want to comment as he didn't want "different or mixed signals" appearing to come from the President and the President-Elect". I think that about says all we need to know. If he supported Bush and Israel he could have simply said "I support President Bush in this crisis."

Bush didn't say much about it, this time, either. But it's clear based on Bush's more public pronouncements in the 2006 ordeal where Bush stands.

Obama stayed silent. I have 3 hypotheses on why.

1. Maybe we should take him at his word on his reasons. He's just overwhelmed with other stuff and he did not want to deal with this. (a neutral analysis)

2. Maybe he wanted to back Israel. He figured that his silence would prolong the conflict allowing for israel to draw more proverbially cockroaches into the light so they could be smashed. (This is the maybe pro-Israel analysis).

3. Or maybe he wanted to back Hamas, but he knew that saying so would only cause Israel to intensify their efforts now. SO he stayed quiet. (the pro-Hamas analysis)

Time will tell where things wind up.

851 Dianna  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:13:58am

re: #829 ploome hineni

I saw it, when Alouette linked the story about traumatized chickens.

Very interesting. I had no idea drones had that capability.

852 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:14:00am

re: #840 3 wood

Sorry for the delay, had to go teach a class.

I'll go check my email and be back in a minute.

You had class today? Oy. Most of the schools are closed that I know of.

853 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:14:52am

re: #849 ploome hineni

I have trouble keeping up here

information overload

/I need it simple

haha...know what you mean

854 vapig  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:14:52am

re: #825 albusteve

tfk knows the skinny about this...I'm just saying what he's been saying

tfk?

855 Eowyn2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:15:30am

re: #819 aussiemagpie

Aussie Stinger, my heartfelt condolences to you and your family

What a brave young man, and a hero

I will leave a message of course, and I'll pass this on to all my friends here

I also have a very sad story about a soldier in Afghanistan, my partners son in law, which I have not shared here

This was so traumatic for all of us, in particular my partners daughter Kylie who lost her brave husband, a bomb tech specialist

My condolences for you all. Very sorry to hear.

856 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:15:34am

re: #854 vapig

tfk?

Taxfreekiller. Frequent lizard poster.

857 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:15:38am
858 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:15:39am

re: #854 vapig

tfk?

yes...he's been on it hard all along

859 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:15:53am

FNChas just announces that John McCain will be the guest of Honor at a Black Tie Gala to honor the Obama Inauguration.
McCain just never stops, a lttle ego stroke & he's in.

860 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:16:14am

AUDIO OF SHOW

Bill Ayers Denied Entry Into Canada

861 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:16:52am

I'm out... time to go avoid Obamania.

1462 days, 0 hours, 42 min, 45 sec

862 Eowyn2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:16:57am

re: #827 Nevergiveup

Report: EU to lift sanctions on Hamas if Palestinian unity gov't formed

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

How that makes any difference I'll never know?

Then they wont need the milk and bread tunnels. They will be able to bring in the ak47s, ehm I mean uh bread and uh nitro, um, milk in the backs of trucks.

863 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:16:58am

re: #859 opnion

FNChas just announces that John McCain will be the guest of Honor at a Black Tie Gala to honor the Obama Inauguration.
McCain just never stops, a lttle ego stroke & he's in.

And Sarah?
/

864 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:16:59am

re: #859 opnion

FNChas just announces that John McCain will be the guest of Honor at a Black Tie Gala to honor the Obama Inauguration.
McCain just never stops, a lttle ego stroke & he's in.

I'm afraid you're right. I guess he sees it as a way he can support the new president, but it looks extremely shady.

865 SlartyBartfast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:17:08am

re: #846 JacksonTn

More like Soros may have helped crash the markets ...Spike Lee? Yeah, there is a source for ya ...

I think Spike Lee is a member of the Hollywood think tank, "The Asshat Institution"...slightly less well known than The Brookings Institution but the makeup is similar.

866 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:17:49am

re: #828 WriterMom

aussiemagpie! Just terrible...I am very sorry to hear about this news-I can understand you not wanting to share it, but please convey our uttmost sympathy to your family-and our admiration for that fine man's bravery and selflessness. We are with you in spirit.

{WriterMom}

Thank you, you are truly a wonderful person!

867 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:18:05am

re: #838 SlartyBartfast

I hope you're right!

Here's a couple of tidbits from Haaretz...

06:42 Norwegian doctor says Israel used new type of weapon in Gaza (Haaretz)

09:29 Israeli officials: Gaza troop withdrawal to be completed by Obama`s inauguration (AP) [Well, praise the Lord! /sarc]

12:00 Livni: If Hamas fires Qassams at Israel, it will `get it` again (Haaretz)

12:57 Hamas claims only 48 of 1,300 Gazan fatalities were group militants (Reuters) [I guess most of the rest were "individual militants".]

Norweigan Doctor? You mean Dr. Mads Gilbert... there can be only one. All of a sudden he's an expert in weapons systems and injuries specific to weapons?

Maybe he ought to familiarize himself with a can of STFU. He's a Hamas propagandist, and the sooner people see him for what he is, the better for all.

868 vapig  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:18:13am

re: #856 vxbush

Taxfreekiller. Frequent lizard poster.

Yes, thank you. I recognize the name.

869 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:18:22am

With Reagan it was "Morning in America." I'm afraid Obama will usher in "Hell in America"

I've posted part of this before, but I've made some additions:

The foreboding I feel is due to the fact that we have hired a confidence man aka a "con man"- a person who deliberately sells confidence to desperate people - and his team of grifters.

Obama has

ZERO governing experience
ZERO business experience
ZERO military experience
ZERO energy experience
ZERO foreign policy experience

His CIA choice has no intelligence experience

His state department head has no foreign policy experience

His treasury choice is a tax cheat

His justice choice has facilitated pardons for some of the most dangerous terrorists in American history, and an enabler of terrorist Iran.

His education secretary come from a area with only 18% of children reading at grade level - 82% reading below grade level.

His transportation choice is ranked in the TOP 10 biggest pork spenders in Congress.

His Regulatory Czar is a renown animal rights nutjob who believes animals should be able to sue humans, people should not be allowed to keep pets, that hunting should be made illegal, and that meat eating should be "phased out."

It's going to be "Hell in America," very soon.

870 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:18:41am

re: #799 Dianna
Hi {Dianna} - yeah, I know, but even on LGF we can't agree on what winning the war MEANS. You obviously can't and shouldn't call for the killing of all the Jordyptians, but it sure seems to mean that you can make life so miserable for them that they do what the Iraqi's FINALLY did with mookie and the "foreign fighters" who kept killing ordinary Iraqi's - start pointing out the Hamas leaders and fighters to Israel. That would be a start. And screw anyone in the world who thinks it's acceptable for Israel to allow even ONE DAMN ROCKET to be fired into Israel.

871 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:18:50am

re: #860 WriterMom

AUDIO OF SHOW

Bill Ayers Denied Entry Into Canada

now THAT"S what I'm talkin about!
put down the bong and get real for a change...this is pretty big actually

872 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:19:14am
873 Eowyn2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:19:22am

re: #860 WriterMom

AUDIO OF SHOW

Bill Ayers Denied Entry Into Canada

I have no audio. is this true or is it a comedy sketch?

874 monkeytime  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:19:24am

My deepest sympathies to all lizards and loved ones in morning. The loss of these fine men cuts deep.

May Eternal Rest Be Granted Unto Them
And May Perpetual Light Shine Upon Them

875 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:19:34am

re: #864 vxbush

I'm afraid you're right. I guess he sees it as a way he can support the new president, but it looks extremely shady.

What's next with McCain and Obama? They get together afterward and steal the Hope Diamond a la Ocean's Eleven?

876 Dianna  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:19:38am

re: #856 vxbush

Taxfreekiller. Frequent lizard poster.

Our resident mad genius poet.

877 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:20:21am

re: #869 DistantThunder

With Reagan it was "Morning in America." I'm afraid Obama will usher in "Hell in America"

I've posted part of this before, but I've made some additions:

Yup, yup, yup. And people asked for this. That shatters any illusions I had about the intelligence of the majority of America.

878 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:20:35am

Black Death... Al-Qaeda Catches Plague- 40 Dead

Apparently, rats must have infested their cave.

879 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:21:45am
880 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:21:53am
881 SlartyBartfast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:21:53am

re: #869 DistantThunder

Nice summary: Up-ding and Favorite.

882 SteveC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:21:57am

Had to go by my LLL-SW (LLL with Special Wackiness) brother's house this morning and overheard this comment:

"Dad! Matt Lauer's lying a-gaiiin!"

/Lizard in training!

883 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:22:05am

re: #834 WriterMom

Charles-two of our Australian lizards have friends, or relatives who have fallen in combat. Perhaps there could a short thread to offer support and condolences to the families and friends of these fine soldiers? Just a thought.

___

Aussie Magpie,

I'm going to sleep. I need to be strong for the rest of the family. Will speak to you later sometime.

All the best.

Fellow Jewish Lizards, you may have seen the story here:

[Link: jta.org...]

Thank you for your kind words at this time.

884 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:22:05am

re: #875 Honorary Yooper

What's next with McCain and Obama? They get together afterward and steal the Hope Diamond a la Ocean's Eleven?

Obama will turn to McCain to lead some piece of legislation for which he wants to garner "support." He'll claim to be throwing a bone to Republicans, but it will probably be something that true Conservative Republicans would put down if they could--I'm guessing immigration reform.

885 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:22:24am

Travel advisory issued for top IDF officers
State expresses concern over international human rights groups' intention to file war crimes charges against military personnel with The Hague, local European courts; says officers planning to travel must contact Judge Advocate General's Office first

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Yeah, and lets remember the EU is "impartial"?
/
Just tell them to vacation in the USA. Oh wait I forgot things might change in a few hours. Ah--better stay home.

886 akak  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:23:01am

[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

and stay out Ayers, f'n terrorists!

887 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:23:17am

re: #875 Honorary Yooper

What's next with McCain and Obama? They get together afterward and steal the Hope Diamond a la Ocean's Eleven?

I can understand McCain if he just shows respect for the office but I am really getting p*ssed off at his wanting to embrace The One ...I wish some brave station would play a video tomorrow morning of all the candidates in the race in both the primaries and the general who stated that Obama was NOT qualified to be president and now they are kissing his butt ...many of us supported McCain even though he was not our choice and I for one feel like his wanting to bend over backwards for Obama now is a slap in the face ...

888 Dianna  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:23:29am

re: #878 Kenneth

Black Death... Al-Qaeda Catches Plague- 40 Dead

Apparently, rats must have infested their cave.

I'm still waiting on that, with deep scepticism. They're saying the plague went pneaumonic, and that's not usual.

889 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:23:31am

re: #823 akak
Link, please!

890 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:23:38am

re: #839 Aussie Stinger

___ ___

Aussie Magpie,

Yes it was a tough one whether to share it here.

Hence I haven't mentioned the exact (and very close) relation to Greg, the latest soldier who was killed.

We are soon to be in touch with the other KIA families.

Perhaps we will speak through that channel.

Thank you for your kind words and thoughts.

I hopw we can catch up - our story is rather tragic, and you may recall it was subject to an inquiry last year (the SMH published details)

As you can imagine it was not a great time especially for our brave soldiers widow, my partner's lovely daughter

891 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:23:52am
892 rightside  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:23:57am

To All My Valued Employees,

There have been some rumblings around the office about the future of this company, and more specifically, your job. As you know, the economy has changed for the worse and presents many challenges. However, the good news is this: The economy doesn't pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is the changing political landscape in this country.

However, let me tell you some little tidbits of fact which might help you decide what is in your best interests.
First, while it is easy to spew rhetoric that casts employers against employees, you have to understand that for every business owner there is a back story. This back story is often neglected and overshadowed by what you see and hear. Sure, you see me park my Mercedes outside. You've seen my big home at last years Christmas party. I'm sure; all these flashy icons of luxury conjure up some idealized thoughts about my life.

However, what you don't see is the back story.

I started this company 28 years ago. At that time, I lived in a 300 square foot studio apartment for 3 years. My entire living apartment was converted into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you.

My diet consisted of Ramen Pride noodles because every dollar I spent went back into this company. I drove a rusty Toyota Corolla with a defective transmission. I didn't have time to date. Often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business -- hard work, discipline, and sacrifice.

Meanwhile, my friends got jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a modest $50K a year and spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. Instead of hitting the Nordstrom's for the latest hot fashion item, I was trolling through the Goodwill store extracting any clothing item that didn't look like it was birthed in the 70's. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into a business with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford these luxuries my friends supposedly had.

So, while you physically arrive at the office at 9am, mentally check in at about noon, and then leave at 5pm, I don't. There is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have the freedom. I eat, and breathe this company every minute of the day. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. Every day this business is attached to my hip like a 1 year old special-needs child. You, of course, only see the fruits of that garden -- the nice house, the Mercedes, the vacations... You never realize the back story and the sacrifices I've made.

Now, the economy is falling apart and I, the guy that made all the right decisions and saved his money, have to bail-out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed a decade of my life for.

Yes, business ownership has is benefits but the price I've paid is steep and not without wounds.

Unfortunately, the cost of running this business, and employing you, is starting to eclipse the threshold of marginal benefit and let me tell you why:

(continued)

893 rightside  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:24:28am

I am being taxed to death and the government thinks I don't pay enough. I have state taxes. Federal taxes. Property taxes. Sales and use taxes. Payroll taxes. Workers compensation taxes. Unemployment taxes. Taxes on taxes. I have to hire a tax man to manage all these taxes and then guess what? I have to pay taxes for employing him. Government mandates and regulations and all the accounting that goes with it, now occupy most of my time. On Oct 15th, I wrote a check to the US Treasury for $288,000 for quarterly taxes. You know what my "stimulus" check was? Zero. Nada. Zilch.

The question I have is this: Who is stimulating the economy? Me, the guy who has provided 14 people good paying jobs and serves over 2,200,000 people per year with a flourishing business? Or, the single mother sitting at home pregnant with her fourth child waiting for her next welfare check? Obviously, government feels the latter is the economic stimulus of this country.

The fact is, if I deducted (Read: Stole) 50% of your paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? That's nuts. Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, I agree which is why your job is in jeopardy.

Here is what many of you don't understand ... to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Had suddenly government mandated to me that I didn't need to pay taxes, guess what? Instead of depositing that $288,000 into the Washington black-hole, I would have spent it, hired more employees, and generated substantial economic growth. My employees would have enjoyed the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But you can forget it now.

When you have a comatose man on the verge of death, you don't defibrillate and shock his thumb thinking that will bring him back to life, do you? Or, do you defibrillate his heart? Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate it, not kill it. Suddenly, the power brokers in Washington believe the poor of America are the essential drivers of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change you can keep.

So where am I going with all this?

It's quite simple.

If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be swift and simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers. You can then plead with the government to pay for your mortgage, your SUV, and your child's future. Frankly, it isn't my problem any more.

Then, I will close this company down, move to another country, and retire. You see, I'm done. I'm done with a country that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, will be my citizenship.

If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the economy; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled the constitution, and will have changed its landscape forever. If that happens, you can find me sitting on a beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about...

Signed,

Your boss

894 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:24:48am

re: #878 Kenneth

Black Death... Al-Qaeda Catches Plague- 40 Dead

Apparently, rats must have infested their cave.

I think it was Reine last night that had this thought. Is it just dessert for the terrorist or were they working on something that backfired?

895 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:24:56am

re: #880 buzzsawmonkey

Spike Lee is a vicious racist and antisemite who constantly whines that his race has held him back, when the truth is that his race the only reason anyone ever took notice of him or his films.

that's it exactly and now his wealth and notoriety makes him an expert...just another drooler withe deeper pockets is all

896 SlartyBartfast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:25:05am

re: #885 Nevergiveup

War crimes?!? Any human rights group who wants to hunt war criminals could have a field day in Gaza once the IDF pulls out!

/spit

897 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:25:06am

re: #888 Dianna

I'm still waiting on that, with deep scepticism. They're saying the plague went pneaumonic, and that's not usual.

Where are they saying this? I didn't see it in this article or the one I saw at HotAir.

898 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:25:19am

re: #880 buzzsawmonkey

Spike Lee is a vicious racist and antisemite who constantly whines that his race has held him back, when the truth is that his race the only reason anyone ever took notice of him or his films.

fabulous. i heart you buzz.

899 kcladderman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:25:44am

re: #874 monkeytime

My deepest sympathies to all lizards and loved ones in morning. The loss of these fine men cuts deep.

May Eternal Rest Be Granted Unto Them
And May Perpetual Light Shine Upon Them

Yes it is a sad reminder that we have True Friends and Allies on the front lines with us. God Bless them all.

900 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:25:48am

Unleashed CIA Zapped 8 Qaeda Lieutenants Since July

Here is the CIA’s hit parade:

* Khalid Habib, a veteran combat leader and operations chief involved with plots to attack the West, who served as deputy to Al Qaeda No. 3 Shaikh Sa’id al-Masri

* Rashid Rauf, the mastermind of the 2006 British airliner plot

* Abu Khabab al-Masri, Al Qaeda’s most seasoned explosives expert and trainer, and the man responsible for its chemical and biological weapons efforts

* Abdallah Azzam, also a top aide to Sheikh Sa’id al-Masri

* Abu al-Hassan al-Rimi, a leader who led cross-border operations against coalition forces in Afghanistan

* Abu Sulaiman al-Jaziri, a senior external operations planner and facilitator

* Abu Jihad al-Masri, a senior operational planner and propagandist

* Usama al-Kini, an East African who was chief of Pakistan operations and the planner of last year’s Marriott attack in Pakistan and the bombing of Benazir Bhutto’s motorcade upon her return from exile.

In a farewell message to CIA employees, Hayden alluded to the not-so-covert campaign in Pakistan’s tribal areas, where CIA has maintained constant overflights by unmanned Predator drones. Morale at the agency has soared since Bush unleashed the spooks to blow up any target they can acquire to crush Al Qaeda as a parting gift.

901 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:26:12am

re: #891 Iron Fist

That's been my experience. Both the job I worked before this on and this one have been great. My previous job, the boss commented one time that "Our coders scare their coders" about a client that was giving us trouble. He also gave me one of those $50 bottles of high-grade Wild Turkey for my birthday. Damn good shit, but out of my price range for everyday consumption. I think he was trying to help me get cultured ;-)

You? Cultured? Perish the thought!

I have a friend who has no familiy and therefore likes to go to all these startups and get them up and running. After they get beyond a certain size, he leaves and goes to the next one. If I didn't have a family to support, I would probably do that myself.

902 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:26:18am

re: #891 Iron Fist

That's been my experience. Both the job I worked before this on and this one have been great. My previous job, the boss commented one time that "Our coders scare their coders" about a client that was giving us trouble. He also gave me one of those $50 bottles of high-grade Wild Turkey for my birthday. Damn good shit, but out of my price range for everyday consumption. I think he was trying to help me get cultured ;-)

and all you got was drunk...neanderthal!

903 vapig  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:26:24am

re: #873 Eowyn2

I have no audio. is this true or is it a comedy sketch?

No - it's for real. He was scheduled to speak on a Toronto radio program and was turned away at the border for having a criminal record. The radio host interviewed him via phone in Chicago.

All I have to say is, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

904 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:26:33am

re: #864 vxbush

I'm afraid you're right. I guess he sees it as a way he can support the new president, but it looks extremely shady.

I think that McCain is just dedsperate to remain relevant.
He is making sounds like he plans to be the Administration's point man to Senate Republicans.
I do hope that the suggest to McCain , go commit an impossible sexual act with himself.

905 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:27:18am

re: #847 realwest

With all respect {aussie} why on earth do ordinary Aussies having a bar of it if it escalates any have to WAIT for? That sign was a sign that was hostile to a religious group, an ethnic group and a call to genocide.
What the hell are the ordinary aussies waiting for? Leadership, maybe?
So start off with a letter writing campaign. Remind your countrymen and women what democracy stands for and what Australia stands for. ENOUGH IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.
(steps off soapbox, aplogizes to {aussie}, just disgusted with the way the "civilized world" gives crazy, murdering, calls to genocide s.o.b.'s the right to do that in THEIR OWN COUNTRY!).

{darls} most of us feel the same way, and it won't get too far here believe me - the problem is like your problem...the MSM are NOT on our side

906 pink freud  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:27:25am

re: #873 Eowyn2

There's glaringly little on the web about this, however here is the story from the Star.

907 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:27:27am

re: #893 rightside

From one business owner to another ...you got it right on! Thanks!

908 SlartyBartfast  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:27:34am

re: #893 rightside

Nice.

909 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:27:42am

re: #894 jorline

I think it was Reine last night that had this thought. Is it just dessert for the terrorist or were they working on something that backfired?

Interesting question!

910 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:28:18am
911 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:28:36am
912 Eowyn2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:28:48am

re: #850 DeafDog

4th analysis
He would like to back Israel but is afraid that would bring a fatwa upon the head of a man who has a Muslim father and, since Muslims proclaim that Muslim fathers determine the rules and religion, they see Obama as a Muslim and since he has, quite vociferously stated he is not a Muslim he already takes his life into his hands because you cant leave the Muslim church. So why antagonize them more?

5th analysis
Obama: "Israel? Palestine? Hamas? Hezbollah? What? Okay, how do I answer this. the usual "I dont want to have mixed signals between outgoing and incoming president" yeah thats it; then I'll have time to talk to Hillary to find out how I am supposed to respond."

913 pink freud  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:29:03am

Ayers story via the Star.

914 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:29:14am

re: #878 Kenneth

Black Death... Al-Qaeda Catches Plague- 40 Dead

Apparently, rats must have infested their cave.

Good news/bad news. Let's all pray the stuff does not spread. IIRC, Europes visitations of the disease originated in the east.

915 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:29:32am

re: #872 buzzsawmonkey

Just a last gasp of BDS.

Pro-Hamas Jewish artist (a New Yorker contributor) welcomes Obama with a last slap at Bush. The embedded Keith Olbermann vid provides a nice capsule summary of eight years of deranged leftist talking points.

I could tape a pencil to my dog's tale to draw better than that.

A pro-Hamas Jew? I don't know what to think about that.

916 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:29:51am

re: #892 rightside

re: #893 rightside

Bravo, Bravo, Bravo! You hit the nail on the head. We are about to be taxed into oblivion. The only good news on the economic front is that Obama will be a first termer.

917 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:30:07am

re: #900 Kenneth

Unleashed CIA Zapped 8 Qaeda Lieutenants Since July

ahhh yesss...party time at Langly...excellent...this should be policy by the book

918 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:30:10am

re: #863 Nevergiveup

And Sarah?
/

I would bet anything that McCain ridicules Palin.

919 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:30:52am

re: #903 vapig

No - it's for real. He was scheduled to speak on a Toronto radio program and was turned away at the border for having a criminal record. The radio host interviewed him via phone in Chicago.

All I have to say is, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Wonder if he got turned away at O'Hare, Pearson, or at the crossings at Port Huron or Detroit. Bummer for him if it was at Pearson, and he had to spend all that money for an airline ticket back to O'Hare. ;-)

920 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:31:04am

re: #860 WriterMom

AUDIO OF SHOW

Bill Ayers Denied Entry Into Canada

ARGH!
I can't get the audio to play.

921 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:31:08am

Another bit of support for the theory that the Gaza War was timed around Obama.

Israelis: Troops to Leave Gaza Before Inauguration

By the time President-elect Barack Obama is inaugurated, Israel will have all of its troops out of the Gaza Strip, but only if Hamas militants hold their fire, Israeli officials said Monday.

Thousands of troops have left Gaza since Israel declared Saturday its intention to unilaterally halt fire after a devastating, three-week Israeli onslaught. Gaza's Hamas rulers ceased fire 12 hours later. Large contingents of Israeli soldiers have kept close to the border, prepared to re-enter the territory if violence re-ignites.

922 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:31:18am

re: #855 Eowyn2

My condolences for you all. Very sorry to hear.

Thanks, I've not shared this here as it's been quite awful to deal with

However I will over the next few days tell LGF about this fine young man we lost

Please also send a message of support for the family of Greg Sher, see Aussie Stingers post

Thank you again!

923 invictus1  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:32:24am

re: #913 pink freud

Ayers story via the Star.

Heh:

"I don't know why I was turned back," Ayers said in an interview this morning from Chicago.

Gee, generally it is not a good idea to let terrorists like Ayers, no matter how washed up they are, into a country.

924 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:32:25am

re: #911 Iron Fist

I can't for the life of me see why Bush doesn't pardon them. I'm not a big fan of John Law, but even I can see that these guys were railroaded for doing their job. This ain't right. And it is a perfect example of why the President has the power to pardon. It's not to get laid by a fugitive's ex-Old Lady, or increase your coffers for your monument to yourself Presidential Library.

Well put, Iron. Two Border Patrol Agents have to spend twelve years in prison for protect OUR border and shooting an illegal drug dealer? Go figure!

925 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:32:25am
926 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:32:51am

I am trying as best I can to stay away from any news. I am reduced to watching ET on some movie channel. G-D I am not sure I am gong to be able to make it thru the next few days.

927 invictus1  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:33:00am

re: #878 Kenneth

Black Death... Al-Qaeda Catches Plague- 40 Dead

Apparently, rats must have infested their cave.

So were these rats trying to blend in?

928 Eowyn2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:33:12am

re: #872 buzzsawmonkey

Just a last gasp of BDS.

Pro-Hamas Jewish artist (a New Yorker contributor) welcomes Obama with a last slap at Bush. The embedded Keith Olbermann vid provides a nice capsule summary of eight years of deranged leftist talking points.

Listening to Laura I this morning. Interview with some deranged woman.
Interviewer: "what will you remember best of the bush legacy"
Reply: "my house falling apart because I got divorced and have no money and there's no money to fix anything" rest of reply was censored for language content. BDS is not going to go away any time soon. Bush will be blamed for everything. Evidently he is even responsible for the divorce of people he has never met.

929 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:33:28am

re: #924 jorline

Well put, Iron. Two Border Patrol Agents have to spend twelve years in prison for protect OUR border and shooting an illegal drug dealer? Go figure!

PIMF...protecting

930 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:33:29am

re: #913 pink freud

Ayers story via the Star.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! He got turned away in Toronto and told to get back on the plane. HAHAHA!

931 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:33:39am

re: #859 opnion

FNChas just announces that John McCain will be the guest of Honor at a Black Tie Gala to honor the Obama Inauguration.
McCain just never stops, a lttle ego stroke & he's in.

I'm not thrilled about this, but putting on a synicial politicians hat for a moment, this move is not surprising.

Obama got 45% of the vote in Arizona and McCain is up for re-election in 2010. If Obama remains popular, footage of Obama talking McCain up will come in handy during the re-election.

I'm not saying that Obama will remain popular, but McCain is playing both sides now - just like Obama himself, and any smart politician would.

932 rightside  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:33:44am

The letter I posted arrived in an email, I do not claim or imply to have written it. Apologies for any confusion!

933 abolitionist  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:34:05am

re: #873 Eowyn2

I have no audio. is this true or is it a comedy sketch?

Within the audio thingy on the page, you have to click on the top item in the list, Bill Ayers, distinguished professor...

934 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:34:06am

re: #894 jorline

I think it was Reine last night that had this thought. Is it just dessert for the terrorist or were they working on something that backfired?

Possibly it hasn't backfired and this is how they do testing. Leadership cares not, for it's a belief in raisins.

935 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:34:29am

re: #852 vxbush

Hey good morning 3 wood, how are you this morning?
Didja get my e-mail last night/very early this AM?!

Not private schools :)

936 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:34:51am

re: #928 Eowyn2

Listening to Laura I this morning. Interview with some deranged woman.
Interviewer: "what will you remember best of the bush legacy"
Reply: "my house falling apart because I got divorced and have no money and there's no money to fix anything" rest of reply was censored for language content. BDS is not going to go away any time soon. Bush will be blamed for everything. Evidently he is even responsible for the divorce of people he has never met.

Did you hear that wacky song "Why You Like Obama?" The Obamagasms have reached climactic proportions.

937 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:34:53am

re: #914 unreconstructed rebel

Good news/bad news. Let's all pray the stuff does not spread. IIRC, Europes visitations of the disease originated in the east.

Yes, but we can treat it in this day and age. So it's not like it's going to cause the devastation that it did in the middle ages.

938 vapig  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:35:11am

re: #915 MandyManners

I could tape a pencil to my dog's tale to draw better than that.

A pro-Hamas Jew? I don't know what to think about that.

That he's just another self-loathing lefty. Nothing to see there...

939 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:35:15am

re: #934 unrealizedviewpoint

Possibly it hasn't backfired and this is how they do testing. Leadership cares not, for it's a belief in raisins.

Good point...everyone is expendable.

940 SteveC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:35:15am

re: #925 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, he's a very good artist; this is one of his sketchier offerings.

I say "pro-Hamas" because he was touting a "United for Peace and Justice" demonstration against the Gaza incursion last week--which, no matter how much he may be concerned about "casualties on both sides" (yeah, right) makes him objectively pro-Hamas.

Sounds like the type that causes "casualties on both sides"... literally run over the IDF to help Hamas.

941 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:35:18am

It's Official: War on Terror Is the Most Successful Military Campaign In US History

Before President George W. Bush leaves office it's only fitting to give credit to where credit it due. Although you would not know this from the anti-Bush media or democrats, the US military has waged the most successful major military campaign in American history these past 8 years.

The War on Terror has been an amazing success not only in what has been accomplished but in what it has cost in lives. Two brutal regimes were obliterated, Al-Qaeda was decimated, fledgling democracies were established. But, most importantly, the US was able to do this while sacrificing the fewest number of soldiers monthly than in any other military campaign in US history.

In Afghanistan:
The US has suffered 604 fatalities in Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. The Taliban and Al-Qaeda has suffered 12,000 fatalities. 28,700 militant Islamists have been captured.

In Iraq:
The US has suffered 4227 fatalities in Iraqi Freedom. More than 19,429 Al-Qaeda and Islamic militants have been killed. Over 18,900 insurgents have been captured.

Looked at it objectively, Bush is among the most successful "war presidents" in US history.

Good point worth remembering:

3. The American war against Iraq ended on April 9, 2003. The war against Iraq by domestic insurgents and al Qaeda followed. That war is also largely over. The pacification of Iraq is continuing apace.

942 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:35:48am

re: #870 realwest

Email received and replied to.

943 x-wing  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:36:00am

re: #893 rightside

Well said rightside.

/bigtime karma booster too.

944 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:36:04am

re: #894 jorline

I think it was Reine last night that had this thought. Is it just dessert for the terrorist or were they working on something that backfired?

Several folks posted this.
It is indeed odd and makes one wonder how this came about . . .

945 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:36:16am

re: #912 Eowyn2

There both variations on the "I don't want to deal with now" - #1.

Sort of like voting "present"

He gets to do that for 24 more hours before folks will start judging him harshly on it.

946 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:36:19am

re: #874 monkeytime

My deepest sympathies to all lizards and loved ones in morning. The loss of these fine men cuts deep.

May Eternal Rest Be Granted Unto Them
And May Perpetual Light Shine Upon Them

What comforting words, thank you

947 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:36:21am

re: #930 Honorary Yooper

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! He got turned away in Toronto and told to get back on the plane. HAHAHA!


"I dont know why I was turned back"...

948 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:36:48am

re: #878 Kenneth

Black Death... Al-Qaeda Catches Plague- 40 Dead

Apparently, rats must have infested their cave.

hmmm.

949 Jetpilot1101  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:37:08am

re: #947 albusteve

"I dont know why I was turned back"...

Obama: "This isn't the TSA I once knew"

950 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:37:08am

re: #944 reine.de.tout

Several folks posted this.
It is indeed odd and makes one wonder how this came about . . .

Yes it does..good morning, reine.

951 unreconstructed rebel  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:37:09am

re: #937 vxbush

Yes, but we can treat it in this day and age. So it's not like it's going to cause the devastation that it did in the middle ages.

That will depend on vaccine on hand, I think. One problem is the stuff strikes with incredible speed.

952 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:37:21am

re: #941 Kenneth

It's Official: War on Terror Is the Most Successful Military Campaign In US History


As I recall, viewing victory from "body count" terms is a loser.

953 Dianna  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:37:32am

re: #897 vxbush

Where are they saying this? I didn't see it in this article or the one I saw at HotAir.

Forty dead? That stinks of pneaumonic.

Bubonic plague is very nasty. But it's slower.

954 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:37:35am

re: #873 Eowyn2

It's true.

955 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:37:36am

Is it possible that Charles is setting this up as the last thread of a "Free America"?

/

956 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:37:44am

how have you been bella?

957 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:37:49am

re: #947 albusteve

"I dont know why I was turned back"...


I don't care about that, but why was he readmitted to this country?

958 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:37:51am

re: #935 3 wood

Not private schools :)

Ah. Good point. Folks who understand working for an education. :D

/no slight to those public school educators who also understand working for a degree

959 Cathypop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:38:09am

re: #926 Nevergiveup

I am trying as best I can to stay away from any news. I am reduced to watching ET on some movie channel. G-D I am not sure I am gong to be able to make it thru the next few days.


Turn the dam TV off and read a book.

960 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:38:10am

re: #914 unreconstructed rebel

Western medical care can treat the plague. There are a few cases every year in the US. The problem for AQ is they are living in caves in close proximity with little or no medical care. Right now, it's winter in the high plateau of Algeria where is gets quite cold. Perfect conditions for spreading the plague as both people & rats will be crowding together.

961 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:38:19am
962 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:38:52am

re: #931 DeafDog

I'm not thrilled about this, but putting on a synicial politicians hat for a moment, this move is not surprising.

Obama got 45% of the vote in Arizona and McCain is up for re-election in 2010. If Obama remains popular, footage of Obama talking McCain up will come in handy during the re-election.

I'm not saying that Obama will remain popular, but McCain is playing both sides now - just like Obama himself, and any smart politician would.


Good point, so I would add reelection to his motives, but McCain is a grandstander. He now has an orgaization called "Country First", whatever that is.

963 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:38:56am

re: #950 jorline

Yes it does..good morning, reine.

Good morning!
Guess I could be polite and say good morning when I show up, eh?

964 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:39:27am

re: #959 Cathypop

Turn the dam TV off and read a book.

Yes mom.

965 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:39:46am

re: #899 kcladderman
"Yes it is a sad reminder that we have True Friends and Allies on the front lines with us. God Bless them all."
AMEN.

966 Pyrocles  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:39:49am

NPR was absolutely GUSHING about Obama's never-before-seen bi-partisanship this morning. Supposedly, Obama really wants to work with Republicans, and govern totally from the center (according to NPR).

The One is NOT a Democrat, He's NOT a Republican - He's simply an American. /

re: #884 vxbush

Obama will turn to McCain to lead some piece of legislation for which he wants to garner "support." He'll claim to be throwing a bone to Republicans, but it will probably be something that true Conservative Republicans would put down if they could--I'm guessing immigration reform.

967 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:39:57am

re: #960 Kenneth

How long do you think before they blame DA JOOOS?

968 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:39:59am

re: #949 Jetpilot1101

Obama: "This isn't the TSA I once knew"

he should be jailed for that piece of agi-prop right there...fraud/liar/killer

969 SteveC  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:40:17am

re: #957 Nevergiveup

I don't care about that, but why was he readmitted to this country?

Good question. If the Canadians refused Entry and we refused re-admittance, I guess Bill would have to "get out" over the Great Lakes. Hope he can swim!

970 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:40:42am

re: #953 Dianna

Forty dead? That stinks of pneaumonic.

Bubonic plague is very nasty. But it's slower.

But did they how long it took to come up with that many bodies? That would be important to consider when looking at the vector.

971 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:41:00am

re: #883 Aussie Stinger

___ ___

Aussie Magpie,

I'm going to sleep. I need to be strong for the rest of the family. Will speak to you later sometime.

All the best.

Fellow Jewish Lizards, you may have seen the story here:

[Link: jta.org...]

Thank you for your kind words at this time.

Please email me if you want, my nic is always blue, goodnight Aussie Stinger

972 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:41:09am

re: #956 NYCHardhat

how have you been bella?

HEY THERE! I haven't seen you in a long time!

973 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:41:25am

re: #933 abolitionist

Within the audio thingy on the page, you have to click on the top item in the list, Bill Ayers, distinguished professor... criminal who got away with it


Fixed it.

974 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:41:48am

re: #972 bellamags

HEY THERE! I haven't seen you in a long time!

Likewise. How were your holidays and such?

975 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:41:53am

re: #959 Cathypop

Awesome!

976 kcladderman  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:41:57am

re: #960 Kenneth

Western medical care can treat the plague. There are a few cases every year in the US. The problem for AQ is they are living in caves in close proximity with little or no medical care. Right now, it's winter in the high plateau of Algeria where is gets quite cold. Perfect conditions for spreading the plague as both people & rats will be crowding together.

Yes those poor rats.

977 VegasRick  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:42:25am

re: #960 Kenneth

Western medical care can treat the plague. There are a few cases every year in the US. The good news for us The problem for AQ is they are living in caves in close proximity with little or no medical care. Right now, it's winter in the high plateau of Algeria where is gets quite cold. Perfect conditions for spreading the plague as both people & rats will be crowding together.

978 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:42:26am

re: #967 WriterMom

How long do you think before they blame DA JOOOS?

Actually, should it get out of hand, be certain, George Bush and the Jooos will definitely be blamed.

979 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:42:28am

re: #976 kcladderman

LOL.

980 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:42:39am

re: #952 jwb7605

Really? Then why does the msm obsess over the "grim death toll" of US troops? True, numbers alone mean little, but taken together with a clear victory in Iraq, the fact Al Qaeda is seriously in disarray, the huge drop in support of AQ among the Muslim public opinion and the liberation of 50 million people from dictatorships, then the success of the Bush strategy is apparent to all but the ideologically blind.

981 Dianna  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:42:43am

re: #970 vxbush

But did they how long it took to come up with that many bodies? That would be important to consider when looking at the vector.

Yes, which is why I'm waiting for more details.

I hope we get them.

982 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:43:22am

re: #961 Iron Fist

Dave Chapelle did a great bit on that. The Grand Dragon was black, was also blind, and didn't know he was black.

Was a wonderfully un-PC skit. Well, it was Chapelle.

983 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:43:26am

re: #978 unrealizedviewpoint

Well, they can seethe all they want. At least we know they will never come up with an antidote for the Secret Mossad Hair Beam Penis Shrinker Rays.

984 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:43:34am

re: #978 unrealizedviewpoint

Actually, should it get out of hand, be certain, George Bush and the Jooos will definitely be blamed.

GWB will be the de facto scapegoat for the next 12 years

985 Cathypop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:43:46am

re: #975 WriterMom

Awesome!


Starting to act more like my mother. EGADS!

986 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:43:48am

re: #967 WriterMom

It's a given.

987 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:43:50am

Super busy. The last time we talked, it was right before the holidays. I moved the computer into the office (instead of in the living room) to make room for parties and such. As a result, I didn't log on to LGF for a while. Being in retail Christmas was busy, my sis came to visit, parties all the time and now its just getting back to normal.

988 Eowyn2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:44:19am

re: #921 karmic_inquisitor

Another bit of support for the theory that the Gaza War was timed around Obama.

Israelis: Troops to Leave Gaza Before Inauguration

By the time President-elect Barack Obama is inaugurated, Israel will have all of its troops out of the Gaza Strip, but only if Hamas militants hold their fire, Israeli officials said Monday.

Do not give the enemy time to reload.

Thousands of troops have left Gaza since Israel declared Saturday its intention to unilaterally halt fire after a devastating, three-week Israeli onslaught. Gaza's Hamas rulers ceased fire 12 hours later. Large contingents of Israeli soldiers have kept close to the border, prepared to re-enter the territory if violence re-ignites.

989 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:44:22am

re: #764 Aussie Stinger

___ ___

Aussie Magpie,

Terrible news.

A few days ago, a very close relative was KIA in Afghanistan:

[Link: www.defence.gov.au...]

I'm sure you saw it on the news. He is the first Jewish Australian soldier to die in combat since WWII. . . .

re: #819 aussiemagpie

Aussie Stinger, my heartfelt condolences to you and your family

What a brave young man, and a hero

I will leave a message of course, and I'll pass this on to all my friends here

I also have a very sad story about a soldier in Afghanistan, my partners son in law, which I have not shared here

This was so traumatic for all of us, in particular my partners daughter Kylie who lost her brave husband, a bomb tech specialist

There are just no words, none at all.
Deepest condolences for the losses you two have suffered.
And prayers for you to have strength.

990 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:44:45am

re: #974 NYCHardhat

See my #987

991 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:45:10am

re: #987 bellamags

Super busy. The last time we talked, it was right before the holidays. I moved the computer into the office (instead of in the living room) to make room for parties and such. As a result, I didn't log on to LGF for a while. Being in retail Christmas was busy, my sis came to visit, parties all the time and now its just getting back to normal.

Yeah, I hadn't seen you in awhile. Kinda got worried. Yeah I'm corny.

992 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:45:26am

re: #980 Kenneth

Really? Then why does the msm obsess over the "grim death toll" of US troops? True, numbers alone mean little, but taken together with a clear victory in Iraq, the fact Al Qaeda is seriously in disarray, the huge drop in support of AQ among the Muslim public opinion and the liberation of 50 million people from dictatorships, then the success of the Bush strategy is apparent to all but the ideologically blind.

That's the important part.

993 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:45:28am

re: #892 rightside
re: #893 rightside

Nice rant!
I trust you will make sure that you have no personal liability for any unfunded corporate liabilities.
Watch for Obama and the Dems to pass insolvency legislation to reach even farther into the personal pockets of the fat cat capitalist running dogs who dare to threaten to stop letting the gubmint bleed them drah.

994 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:45:30am

re: #962 opnion

Good point, so I would add reelection to his motives, but McCain is a grandstander. He now has an orgaization called "Country First", whatever that is.

Yeah, they hit me up for $25. I'm sceptical, too, but he went trough the campaign so I figured I'd give him a shot. No more money until I see what it means.

995 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:46:15am

re: #991 NYCHardhat

Yeah, I hadn't seen you in awhile. Kinda got worried. Yeah I'm corny.

I hoped you wouldn't think I was avoiding you or anything. ; )

996 vxbush  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:46:29am

Okay, now I have to get some work done. I'll check in later, folks.

(Homework never ends.)

997 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:46:30am

re: #985 Cathypop

Starting to act more like my mother. EGADS!

So what's for lunch?

998 faraway  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:46:38am

re: #994 DeafDog

Yeah, they hit me up for $25. I'm sceptical, too, but he went trough the campaign so I figured I'd give him a shot. No more money until I see what it means.

Save it for Palin

999 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:47:05am

re: #983 WriterMom

Well, they can seethe all they want. At least we know they will never come up with an antidote for the Secret Mossad Hair Beam Penis Shrinker Rays.

LOL
I was actually referring to the Deranged Left in this country, the Twoofers and such, they'll blame GWB & the Jooos for using biologicals on the enemy.

1000 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:47:12am

re: #998 faraway

Save it for Palin

upding.

1001 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:47:19am
1002 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:47:26am

re: #995 bellamags

I hoped you wouldn't think I was avoiding you or anything. ; )

Not at all. I kinda got tired of talking about Obama so I haven't been on alot myself.

1003 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:48:05am
1004 Cathypop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:48:08am

re: #997 Nevergiveup

Home made venison chili mmm

1005 Eowyn2  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:48:08am

re: #930 Honorary Yooper

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! He got turned away in Toronto and told to get back on the plane. HAHAHA!

"If it were me, I'd let me in"

It says so much.

1006 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:48:09am

re: #998 faraway

Save it for Palin

1007 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:48:30am

re: #1001 Iron Fist

My dad had a pretty good idea yesterday. The Republicans are pretty much hosed in Congress. There are enough RINOs in the Senate to make a filibuster practically impossible, and the House is gone. Since the Republicans effectively have no power, embrace that as a strength to bring them back. To do this, he suggested that all the Republicans on all the Bills that come up for the next two years (at least) simply vote "present". Let the Donks make the hard decisions, and let them own the fallout that will follow.

That might make good street theater for the next few years. Some Democrats might just change their votes if they don't have the token votes so that they can claim it is a "bipartisan" bill and then blame the fallout on the evil Republicans.

another upding.

1008 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:49:06am

Obama 'a major step' for humanity: Canada governor general

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Which way?

1009 Cathypop  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:49:08am

re: #1001 Iron Fist

My dad had a pretty good idea yesterday. The Republicans are pretty much hosed in Congress. There are enough RINOs in the Senate to make a filibuster practically impossible, and the House is gone. Since the Republicans effectively have no power, embrace that as a strength to bring them back. To do this, he suggested that all the Republicans on all the Bills that come up for the next two years (at least) simply vote "present". Let the Donks make the hard decisions, and let them own the fallout that will follow.

That might make good street theater for the next few years. Some Democrats might just change their votes if they don't have the token votes so that they can claim it is a "bipartisan" bill and then blame the fallout on the evil Republicans.

That is a great idea. Now lets see if they have the balls to do it.

1010 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:49:15am

re: #1002 NYCHardhat

Not at all. I kinda got tired of talking about Obama so I haven't been on alot myself.

I tried to watch some of the Obama Coronation and Elevation to Sainthood festivities last night, but couldn't stand it for long.

1011 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:49:16am

Look's like Chavez don't like Obama either:

Chavez Likens Obama's 'Stench' to Bush's

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez apparently doesn't appreciate Barack Obama's classifying him as a supporter of Colombian terror group, FARC, likening the president-elect's odor to that of Chavez nemesis President Bush.

In an interview airing on Venezuelan television and reported by The Washington Post Monday, Chavez said Obama has "the same stench" as Bush. The comment harkens back to September 2006, when Chavez followed Bush at an appearance at the United Nations General Assembly opening and said he could still smell the "sulfur" left behind by the U.S. president's presence at the podium.

Strange, I thought the world was going to love us if we elected the Messiah.

1012 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:49:18am

Unsung Hero Ryan Crocker Awarded Medal of Freedom

1013 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:49:35am

re: #966 Pyrocles

NPR was absolutely GUSHING about Obama's never-before-seen bi-partisanship this morning. Supposedly, Obama really wants to work with Republicans, and govern totally from the center (according to NPR).

The One is NOT a Democrat, He's NOT a Republican - He's simply an American. /

Obama's promised to immediately sign the FOCA - that allegedly will mean the closure of 600+ Catholic hospitals who will refuse to comply with the new law - how bipartisan is that?

1014 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:49:41am

re: #1008 Nevergiveup

zzz

1015 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:49:52am

re: #1002 NYCHardhat

Not at all. I kinda got tired of talking about Obama so I haven't been on alot myself.

I think everyone is tired of him already. Its going to be a long 4 (lets hope not 8) years. I thought about you over the holidays with regards to what we talked about. I hope everything was OK.

1016 albusteve  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:50:33am

re: #1001 Iron Fist

My dad had a pretty good idea yesterday. The Republicans are pretty much hosed in Congress. There are enough RINOs in the Senate to make a filibuster practically impossible, and the House is gone. Since the Republicans effectively have no power, embrace that as a strength to bring them back. To do this, he suggested that all the Republicans on all the Bills that come up for the next two years (at least) simply vote "present". Let the Donks make the hard decisions, and let them own the fallout that will follow.

That might make good street theater for the next few years. Some Democrats might just change their votes if they don't have the token votes so that they can claim it is a "bipartisan" bill and then blame the fallout on the evil Republicans.

whoa...excellent idea...it was good enough for BO eh?...hahaha!

1017 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:50:40am

re: #893 rightside

Rightside, that was magnificent! That should be 50+ updings.

1018 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:50:59am

re: #1001 Iron Fist

My dad had a pretty good idea yesterday. The Republicans are pretty much hosed in Congress. There are enough RINOs in the Senate to make a filibuster practically impossible, and the House is gone. Since the Republicans effectively have no power, embrace that as a strength to bring them back. To do this, he suggested that all the Republicans on all the Bills that come up for the next two years (at least) simply vote "present". Let the Donks make the hard decisions, and let them own the fallout that will follow.

That might make good street theater for the next few years. Some Democrats might just change their votes if they don't have the token votes so that they can claim it is a "bipartisan" bill and then blame the fallout on the evil Republicans.

Great idea, but I doubt some of the Republicans have the backbone to do that. They want to be liked by the MSM too much.

1019 DistantThunder  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:51:14am

re: #988 Eowyn2

Hamas is already firing rockets. This is good for Netanyahu who KNEW Israel would quit while they were ahead, but before they were done.

1020 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:51:21am

re: #1010 reine.de.tout

I tried to watch some of the Obama Coronation and Elevation to Sainthood festivities last night, but couldn't stand it for long.

I will try to remove as many forms of media from my life for the next four years.

1021 3 wood  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:51:31am

Gotta go do some chores.

See you later.

1022 opnion  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:52:17am

re: #1001 Iron Fist

My dad had a pretty good idea yesterday. The Republicans are pretty much hosed in Congress. There are enough RINOs in the Senate to make a filibuster practically impossible, and the House is gone. Since the Republicans effectively have no power, embrace that as a strength to bring them back. To do this, he suggested that all the Republicans on all the Bills that come up for the next two years (at least) simply vote "present". Let the Donks make the hard decisions, and let them own the fallout that will follow.

That might make good street theater for the next few years. Some Democrats might just change their votes if they don't have the token votes so that they can claim it is a "bipartisan" bill and then blame the fallout on the evil Republicans.


That my friends (two thumbs up & clenched teeth smile) is why the BHO people are stroking McCain. They figure that he will be their tool if he gets enough attention & will deliver Republicans.

1023 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:52:19am

re: #998 faraway

Save it for Palin


Hah! I'm more worried about saving it for food.

It's way too early to seriously figure on 2012, but I guess it doesn't hurt to speculate. I liked Palin, but I also warmed to Romney late in the primaries. The South Carolina governor (Sanford) also talks a good game and Jindal deserves a listen-to, too, IMO.

1024 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:52:48am

re: #1015 bellamags

I think everyone is tired of him already. Its going to be a long 4 (lets hope not 8) years. I thought about you over the holidays with regards to what we talked about. I hope everything was OK.

Thank you for the thoughts. The holidays were bittersweet. And I hope your situation can be rectified.

1025 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:53:38am

My ignorance forces me to ask: The acronym MFM, does it stand for the M**her F**king Media?

1026 vapig  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:53:40am

re: #1001 Iron Fist

My dad had a pretty good idea yesterday. The Republicans are pretty much hosed in Congress. There are enough RINOs in the Senate to make a filibuster practically impossible, and the House is gone. Since the Republicans effectively have no power, embrace that as a strength to bring them back. To do this, he suggested that all the Republicans on all the Bills that come up for the next two years (at least) simply vote "present". Let the Donks make the hard decisions, and let them own the fallout that will follow.

That might make good street theater for the next few years. Some Democrats might just change their votes if they don't have the token votes so that they can claim it is a "bipartisan" bill and then blame the fallout on the evil Republicans.

Actually, that is a great idea. Your daddy is a smart man!

1027 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:53:46am

re: #1020 NYCHardhat

I will try to remove as many forms of media from my life for the next four years.

You will be forced to watch the 0bama channel at least 2 hours a day. If you cannot afford cable, the government will supply you with the 0bama channel at no cost.
Failure to watch the 0bama channel will result in re-education. Bill Ayers will be in charge of that.
And don't forget, the 0bama channel watches you.
/sarc, I hope

1028 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:53:47am
1029 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:54:02am

re: #1008 Nevergiveup

Obama 'a major step' for humanity: Canada governor general

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Which way?

From the GG's quote:

What happened in Haiti, where in 1804 the country's black African and creole population freed itself from slavery by overthrowing the colonial regime, was similar to Obama's election experience, in that Haiti's revolution was also "in the name of freedom, equality and fraternity," she said.

What a bizarre statement. So Obama's election is just like a horrifyingly bloody race war? Um... are you sure you want to make that comparison, Madame Governor-General.

1030 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:54:17am

upstream to the thread

1031 bellamags  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:55:00am

re: #1027 Kosh's Shadow

You will be forced to watch the 0bama channel at least 2 hours a day. If you cannot afford cable, the government will supply you with the 0bama channel at no cost.
Failure to watch the 0bama channel will result in re-education. Bill Ayers will be in charge of that.
And don't forget, the 0bama channel watches you.
/sarc, I hope

I wonder if the broadcast switch to all digital is part of the conspiracy?

1032 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:55:50am

re: #989 reine.de.tout

There are just no words, none at all.
Deepest condolences for the losses you two have suffered.
And prayers for you to have strength.

{Reine} thanks so much :-)

1033 akak  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:56:31am

re: the Understanding signed by Rice/Livni

set a precedent by declaring that Iran was the source of materiel smuggled into the Gaza Strip.

This has to have Obama support, otherwise why bother if it's only good for a week?
[Link: www.terrorism-info.org.il...]

1034 DeafDog  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:57:13am

re: #1001 Iron Fist

Hah! I'm with your dad! Does he have a PAC?

1035 itellu3times  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:58:25am

re: #777 bellamags

One thing I have noticed about the economy - a lot of companies are taking advantage of the situation to eliminate jobs, cut pay and benefits. They know people are scared and won't argue with the cuts if it means they get to keep their jobs. I know two people who are going to have to take a 10% pay cut. Their companies are also eliminating 401k contributions and taking away benefits. If this keeps up, there is going to be a lot less DISPOSABLE income out there. This is the absolute worst thing these companies could do at a time like this.

Have to disagree there.

Of course, it would be best if they fired the 60% of employees who in most places would never be missed, but short of such miraculous enlightenment, allowing you to keep your job for less money, and maybe make it up (in some part) at a later time, is reasonable.

These are crazy times, and don't forget it.

1036 aussiemagpie  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:59:32am

Goodnight from Down Under {everyone} and have a great yesterday!

1037 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:59:51am

re: #942 3 wood
Received and replied to!

1038 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:00:55am
1039 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:01:48am

re: #952 jwb7605
Not when their is no "turf" to gain it isn't.

1040 jorline  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:02:37am

re: #963 reine.de.tout

Good morning!
Guess I could be polite and say good morning when I show up, eh?

You're always polite, riene...just some days are busier than others.

1041 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:08:25am

re: #1029 Occasional Reader

What a bizarre statement. So Obama's election is just like a horrifyingly bloody race war? Um... are you sure you want to make that comparison, Madame Governor-General.

She was not speaking off the cuff. The revolutionary analogy was probably fed to her by some smart-ass lefty staffer or perhaps by her fwench-born husband Jean-Daniel Lafond. Or maybe she asked one of her socialist cronies at her former employer CBC-Radio Canada.

OTOH she may not be too far off the mark.//

1042 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:08:53am

re: #1001 Iron Fist
I LIKE that idea A LOT!
And, of course, it'll expose all the RINOS.

1043 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:09:51am
1044 realwest  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:11:55am

re: #1025 unrealizedviewpoint Yes, but without the asterisks!

1045 Kenneth  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:14:26am

re: #1029 Occasional Reader

What a bizarre statement. So Obama's election is just like a horrifyingly bloody race war? Um... are you sure you want to make that comparison, Madame Governor-General.

...leading to 2 centuries of brutal corrupt dictatorships. Maybe she's on to something?

1046 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:19:34am
1047 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:28:32am
1048 tfc3rid  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:29:48am

So, here we are. Standing 8 years after President Bush was 'selected, not elected'. We were attacked on 9/11 and showed the courage that had been missing for a long time. We cared for each other. We cared for strangers. We were one. We ought a war against those who attacked us and vowed to depose those regimes who habor terrorists. We pleased for no mercy against those who wished us dead.

We rolled back the damage done to our military during ight years of Bill Clinton, a centrist Democrat.

However, 24 hours from now, all that will change. A far left Liberal, Socialist President with no executive experieience will take over the reins of America. He will immediately close Gitmo and outlaw extreme interrogation techniques. He will support card check, the Freedom of Choice Act. At some point, he will raise taxes. Our dollar will inflate to levels not seen since I was a toddler.

Remember this day. As those of us who love America might never see it like this again.

Do I wish President Obama well, yes. Bt his success will personally be terrible for me and my belief system.

1049 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:33:27pm

re: #910 buzzsawmonkey

Does this mean that in addition to being Australian and a Jew, he was also homosexual?

___

buzzsawmonkey,

Are you stupid? Or just a lazy prick who couldn't be bothered to click on the link already provided and see for yourself?

[Link: www.defence.gov.au...]

No, he was heterosexual.

Glad it mattered so much to you anyway.

Consider this:

- Even if he was homosexual (which he def wasn't), he still woulda beat the crap out of you, being in Special Forces and all. Man, I'd have bought a ticket to see him do you in.

- Even if he was homosexual (where DID u get this from?), he has still given more to his country and the cause of freedom than the lazy desk jockey that you are.

Fancy that, first intended (yours) insult, and it's on a Conservative blog.

You knob.

1050 Aussie Stinger  Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:26:45pm

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