BBC Flying Pig Watch
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Possibly flying pig-worthy, a former British Army Colonel is interviewed by the BBC and doesn’t blame Israel for civilian casualties in Gaza:
(Hat tip: Israellycool.)
374 comments
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Pyrocles Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:42:35am |
The person who scheduled this guy to appear on BBC will be fired shortly.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:42:58am |
Technically, it's not the Beeb which deserves the pig. It's the Colonel.
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:42:59am |
How'd this slip past al-Beeb's censors?
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:43:32am |
Well he has probably actually been responsible for the lives of his men and others. So he knows the score. Of Course he'll never be on the BBC or CNN again.
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Ay, Caramba Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:44:07am |
Uh Oh, he will not be invited to the inauguration.
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x-wing Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:44:14am |
A ballsey stance from a Brit. Maybe all is not lost across the pond.Watch your back Colonel.
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WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:44:20am |
I suspect that a lot of British people-especially within the security establishment GET IT, but they are being crippled by political correctness and dhimmitude politicians.
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WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:45:16am |
"Perhaps we can speak on this again" = KISS YOUR BBC APPEARANCES GOODBYE, SUCKAH.
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Racer X Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:45:52am |
He has just been summoned to headquarters for re-training.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:46:31am |
Just wondering ... didn't that fellow giving sign language at the end look over toward Col. Kemp and flick him the finger?
/heh
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:46:45am |
Not all the British press is being so responsible....
Bullets in the brain, shrapnel in the spine: the terrible injuries suffered by children of Gaza
Dr Yahia, a professor of neurosurgery who has worked in both the United States and Britain, believes that the bullet was shot from close range. "If it changes course inside the brain it has high velocity and its penetrative force is also high," he said.
"I can't precisely decide whether these children are being shot at as a target, but in some cases the bullet comes from the front of the head and goes towards the back, so I think the gun has been directly pointed at the child."
....
One of the medical team leaders at the hospital, Dr Ayman Abd al-Hadi, said that this was the worst conflict he had experienced. "We've had one child with two bullets in the head and nowhere else," he said. "We think that this shows something."
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lifeofthemind Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:47:06am |
The astonishment of the interviewer is priceless, she is momentarily at a loss and can barely control the instinct to yell at a producer "Who booked this idiot?"
It is like lifting a rock and shining light on the creatures below.
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Sharmuta Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:47:44am |
This kind of makes me sad that an honest, factual interview would be so refreshing because it's so rare.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:47:59am |
How about that line of print at the bottom?
"Israel continues offensive despite UN resolution".
WTF?
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:48:12am |
re: #18 lifeofthemind
The astonishment of the interviewer is priceless, she is momentarily at a loss and can barely control the instinct to yell at a producer "Who booked this idiot?"
It is like lifting a rock and shining light on the creatures below.
What do you know? There are Lizards under there.
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:48:16am |
In the sidebar there's a video in which Ron Paul claims Israel created Hamas in order to weaken Fatah. Good gravy, that man is a dolt.
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Clareman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:49:33am |
and now, for something completely different: Let's watch BBC's Claire Bollockson report... providing the usual beeb's balanced and objective perspective on the conflict.
classic!
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WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:49:33am |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
You know-that article stinks. Basically, they are accusing the IDF of shooting children DELIBERATELY in the head. How exactly do they prove this? Where are the ballistic reports. That is a blood libel as far as I am concerned. I think it's threadworthy.
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quickjustice Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:49:40am |
If someone murders my child in a rocket attack, I want him prosecuted if my government has jurisdiction over him. If a government or a criminal gang murders my child with a rocket, I want the entire government or gang held responsible without regard to any principle of proportionality, which is unique to the criminal law, not to warfare between nations, or nations and armed gangs. If that government tries to shield the murderers with its own innocent civilians, then it is responsible for whatever harm comes to them.
And the phrase "war crimes" does come to mind when an armed gang deliberately interposes civilians and children as human shields.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:50:21am |
re: #25 MandyManners
In the sidebar there's a video in which Ron Paul claims Israel created Hamas in order to weaken Fatah. Good gravy, that man is a dolt.
Well he is not altogether wrong. Way back when Israel wasn't "sad" to see a counter balance to the PLO. To say they "created" Hamas goes to far, but they certainly tolerated Hamas at one time.
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WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:50:34am |
re: #25 MandyManners
MM-there is a small kernel of truth in that-but not what Ron Paul means. Hamas was 'created' when Rabin exiled all kinds of fanatic Islamic terrorists to south Lebanon. So, the myth is that Israel 'created' Hamas. It's a little more complicated than that.
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dennisw Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:51:30am |
European nations look at their growing Muslim populations and how they behave at mass demonstrations as if they own Great Britain and France already. More Europeans are putting two and two together and understanding what the Israelis have to contend with. Which is relentless Jihad because Jihad is eternal until the whole world is Muslim.
It becomes obvious to them that they are getting demographic Jihad and the Israelis are getting Jihad by war. Muslims control lots of *occupied territory* in Europe where they control many city neighborhoods and banlieues in France
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:51:39am |
re: #18 lifeofthemind
The astonishment of the interviewer is priceless, she is momentarily at a loss and can barely control the instinct to yell at a producer "Who booked this idiot?"
It is like lifting a rock and shining light on the creatures below.
hee-hee.
He keeps going off the point she wants to make!
I love it - this is a great interview!
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teleskiguy Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:52:14am |
Wow. I'm astonished by this. The Colonel is deliberative and insightful. The interviewer is obviously trying to get the Colonel to say something bad about Israel, but the Colonel is smarter than her!
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Dirk Diggler Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:52:48am |
The British Colonel must be Jewish. You know, and have nefarious "dual loyalties".
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Cathypop Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:53:55am |
re: #34 teleskiguy
Wow. I'm astonished by this. The Colonel is deliberative and insightful. The interviewer is obviously trying to get the Colonel to say something bad about Israel, but the Colonel is smarter than her!
A potted plant is probably smarter than her
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:55:06am |
re: #18 lifeofthemind
The astonishment of the interviewer is priceless, she is momentarily at a loss and can barely control the instinct to yell at a producer "Who booked this idiot?"
It is like lifting a rock and shining light on the creatures below.
You must be looking at a different video. She did, once, try to turn the conversation to IDF mistakes, but he held his ground. All in all, her style was monotonic and boring.
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x-wing Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:55:13am |
re: #37 Cathypop
A potted plant is probably smarter than her
Now what do you have against potted plants? ;>}
//
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Aisha bint Abi Bakr Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:55:24am |
Ya think anyone in GB was sober enough to watch this interview let alone understand it?
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:55:48am |
re: #27 WriterMom
They are also claiming the kids were shot in the head at close range. The two most likely scenarios is that 1) the doctors are full of shit or 2) Hamas is shooting kids knowing the Israelis will get the blame.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:56:04am |
re: #41 Aisha bint Abi Bakr
Ya think anyone in GB was sober enough to watch this interview let alone understand it?
Green Bay?
/
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Cathypop Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:56:12am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
They are also claiming the kids were shot in the head at close range. The two most likely scenarios is that 1) the doctors are full of shit or 2) Hamas is shooting kids knowing the Israelis will get the blame.
3) All of the above
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:56:34am |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
Well
One of the medical team leaders at the hospital, Dr Ayman Abd al-Hadi, said that this was the worst conflict he had experienced. "We've had one child with two bullets in the head and nowhere else," he said. "We think that this shows something."
it does show something - when Hamas (or any other terror group) deliberately uses children and other "civilians" as shields, sometimes terrible things happen to those shields.
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:56:46am |
re: #11 WriterMom
I suspect that a lot of British people-especially within the security establishment GET IT, but they are being crippled by political correctness and dhimmitude politicians.
And by 'unbiased' MFM, especially the Beeb, but also by the 'quality' papers ...
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WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:57:01am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
Exactly-that's why this needs to be discussed. Hamas is likely sacrificing Palestinian children in yet another way!
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WriterMom Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:57:20am |
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x-wing Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:57:21am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
They are also claiming the kids were shot in the head at close range. The two most likely scenarios is that 1) the doctors are full of shit or 2) Hamas is shooting kids knowing the Israelis will get the blame.
I'll lay my money on on number2.
Palis. are not disciplined shooters.
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brookly red Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:57:45am |
re: #41 Aisha bint Abi Bakr
Ya think anyone in GB was sober enough to watch this interview let alone understand it?
Ya think anyone in GB recalls what they did when rockets were fired at their cities?
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:58:02am |
"I could tell you [of the measures Israel has taken to spare civilians] if your interested"
BBC interviewer simply changes subjects.
Put the pig back in the hangar.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:58:25am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
They are also claiming the kids were shot in the head at close range. The two most likely scenarios is that 1) the doctors are full of shit or 2) Hamas is shooting kids knowing the Israelis will get the blame.
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Izzy Dunne Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:58:39am |
former British Army Colonel is interviewed by the BBC and doesn’t blame Israel for civilian casualties in Gaza:
But of course.
Why do you think he's a former Army colonel?
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:58:43am |
Rush is really good today.
Echoing what I have been yelling at the TV all weekend.
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:59:12am |
re: #39 Walter L. Newton
Boy am I glad you said that! After watching the video, one of my first thoughts was "gee she doesn't really seem all that interested in this interview".
Boring (or bored) is another way to put that, I think.
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doppelganglander Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:59:35am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
They are also claiming the kids were shot in the head at close range. The two most likely scenarios is that 1) the doctors are full of shit or 2) Hamas is shooting kids knowing the Israelis will get the blame.
3) all of the above.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 10:59:59am |
re: #52 Racer X
Recession?
$40 million for Bush in 2004 - and the cost was lamented as excessive by the MSM.
Natch.
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karmic_inquisitor Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:00:18am |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:00:24am |
re: #55 loppyd
loppyd - we started a new game!
I sent e-mail on Friday, but didn't hear back from you, so we didn't include you this time.
Are you still interested in the next game?
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Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:01:08am |
re: #56 realwest
I think her interested waned significantly when she wasn't going to get what she wanted from the interview.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:01:09am |
re: #56 realwest
Boy am I glad you said that! After watching the video, one of my first thoughts was "gee she doesn't really seem all that interested in this interview".
Boring (or bored) is another way to put that, I think.
I think her style was designed to make him appear to be "not important."
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unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:01:11am |
re: #52 Racer X
Recession?
Remember all the crap the MSM gave the Bush people for spending $42 million?
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:01:18am |
re: #58 loppyd
$40 million for Bush in 2004 - and the cost was lamented as excessive by the MSM.
Natch.
/MFM mode
But that was for Bush's inauguration. This is the 0ne's coronation and deification. Of course, it costs more. The 0ne deserves it. Unicorns are expensive.
/MFM mode off
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lifeofthemind Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:01:44am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
They are also claiming the kids were shot in the head at close range. The two most likely scenarios is that 1) the doctors are full of shit or 2) Hamas is shooting kids knowing the Israelis will get the blame.
I choose door number 2 here. There may be an implicit collaboration and bad faith by the doctors but there is no evidence of prior planning that would make them part of an active conspiracy. Hamas on the other hand has a track record of kneecapping, strapping bombs onto the handicapped and using children as shields. Most telling is their ideological link to the Iranian regime that sent children into minefields with plastic keys to heaven around their necks. They are capable of deliberately killing children to create a press story.
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:01:47am |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
Not all the British press is being so responsible....
Bullets in the brain, shrapnel in the spine: the terrible injuries suffered by children of Gaza
Erm - the good doctor didn't do any forensics on the 'two bullets in the brain' which according to him 'tells you something', did he?
Like that Gazan doctor working in Israel, bewaiing the death of his daughters and niece. Turns out what killed them were shrapnell from Hamas missiles ...
It makes me beyind angry when i see these stories spread faithfully by the MFM - but the truth, as established irrefutably a day or so later, never makes it into print.
Expect more of the same, now that the 'free' media can go into Gaza and report every wail!
Without fact-checking, naturally ...
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:01:52am |
re: #60 reine.de.tout
loppyd - we started a new game!
I sent e-mail on Friday, but didn't hear back from you, so we didn't include you this time.
Are you still interested in the next game?
I've been under the weather - sorry. Yes, send me a note the next time you're ready to start up.
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Racer X Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:01:53am |
re: #58 loppyd
$40 million for Bush in 2004 - and the cost was lamented as excessive by the MSM.
Natch.
In all fairness the government is only spending around $45 million. The rest of the $170 million is private money.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:02:11am |
re: #59 karmic_inquisitor
But it will stimulate the economy ...
/
I can't buy bread with "leg tingles". And even if I could, I don't have any.
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DistantThunder Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:02:37am |
FRom the prayer by the gay pastor Robinson, which was edited out of the HBO special:
Opening Inaugural Event
Lincoln Memorial, Washington, DC
January 18, 2009Welcome to Washington! The fun is about to begin, but first, please join me in pausing for a moment, to ask God's blessing upon our nation and our next president.
O God of our many understandings, we pray that you will...
Bless us with tears - for a world in which over a billion people exist on less than a dollar a day, where young women from many lands are beaten and raped for wanting an education, and thousands die daily from malnutrition, malaria, and AIDS.
Bless us with anger - at discrimination, at home and abroad, against refugees and immigrants, women, people of color, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.
Bless us with discomfort - at the easy, simplistic "answers" we've preferred to hear from our politicians, instead of the truth, about ourselves and the world, which we need to face if we are going to rise to the challenges of the future.
Bless us with patience - and the knowledge that none of what ails us will be "fixed" anytime soon, and the understanding that our new president is a human being, not a messiah.
It's much, much longer......maybe HBO didn't think a 20 minute prayer was good entertainment.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:02:40am |
re: #64 Kosh's Shadow
/MFM mode
But that was for Bush's inauguration. This is the 0ne's coronation and deification. Of course, it costs more. The 0ne deserves it. Unicorns are expensive.
/MFM mode off
And it's making the downtrodden feel good.
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:03:37am |
re: #61 Athos
Well yes and no - frankly I didn't think she seemed all that interested to begin with and after she couldn't get the Colonel to say something negative about the IDF, she just plain lost interest!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:03:51am |
re: #68 Racer X
In all fairness the government is only spending around $45 million. The rest of the $170 million is private money.
Is this true? Where is the private money coming from?
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unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:03:51am |
I wonder what all the hypothermia cases are gonna cost us?
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:04:06am |
re: #65 lifeofthemind
I choose door number 2 here. There may be an implicit collaboration and bad faith by the doctors but there is no evidence of prior planning that would make them part of an active conspiracy. Hamas on the other hand has a track record of kneecapping, strapping bombs onto the handicapped and using children as shields. Most telling is their ideological link to the Iranian regime that sent children into minefields with plastic keys to heaven around their necks. They are capable of deliberately killing children to create a press story.
Didn't they also put some sort of cloaks around the kids that made them invisible?
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:04:09am |
re: #39 Walter L. Newton
You must be looking at a different video. She did, once, try to turn the conversation to IDF mistakes, but he held his ground. All in all, her style was monotonic and boring.
Mind - she does look quite fetching ...
/
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:04:24am |
re: #68 Racer X
In all fairness the government is only spending around $45 million. The rest of the $170 million is private money.
Well spent in times like these.
Wall Street donated $7 mil. That makes my f-ing blood boil.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:05:10am |
re: #70 DistantThunder
FRom the prayer by the gay pastor Robinson, which was edited out of the HBO special:
It's much, much longer......maybe HBO didn't think a 20 minute prayer was good entertainment.
Ah yes, the pride of NH.
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unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:05:19am |
re: #79 loppyd
Well spent in times like these.
Wall Street donated $7 mil. That makes my f-ing blood boil.
Especially if that turns out to be TARP money.
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:05:34am |
re: #41 Aisha bint Abi Bakr
Ya think anyone in GB was sober enough to watch this interview let alone understand it?
Nope.
Probably was shown once only, as well - to demonstrate to us serial BBC-complainers that they're sooo balanced and unbiased ...
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:06:09am |
WHOA - OT - There is a heavy snow storm warning (up to 6 inches of snow!) for the Charlotte area tonight and tomorrow morning!
SIX INCHES of snow!
OMG, this place is definetley shutting down with that much snow.
I just hope we don't lose power!
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lifeofthemind Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:06:11am |
re: #76 MandyManners
Didn't they also put some sort of cloaks around the kids that made them invisible?
That level of science fiction is becoming a reality.
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
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darkster2400 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:06:25am |
Wow - a military guy who speaks the truth - must be very incovenient to all the left wing kooks and nuts....
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Racer X Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:06:26am |
Gov. David Paterson is "certain" to pick Caroline Kennedy."David goes with Caroline with the understanding that Caroline, and her family and its resources, go with David next year. This stuff with Paterson saying he's looking at other people is a crock," the source continued.
Meanwhile, several Democrats pointed to Paterson's already-declining public-opinion poll numbers to warn that selecting Kennedy could worsen his chances to be elected next year.
"The polls show Kennedy is not who the public wants, and every upstate newspaper has come out against her," noted a longtime Democratic operative.
"Picking Caroline could turn into a disaster for Paterson," he continued.
A little-noticed Marist College poll last week showed Paterson, who became governor last March after Eliot Spitzer resigned amid a hooker scandal, with a rapidly declining job-approval rating.
I smell another scandal brewing.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:06:28am |
re: #81 unreconstructed rebel
Especially if that turns out to be TARP money.
How do you differentiate really?
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:06:31am |
re: #81 unreconstructed rebel
Especially if that turns out to be TARP money.
We'll need a court order to find out.
Fox Business has filed FOIA motions.
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:07:18am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
They are also claiming the kids were shot in the head at close range. The two most likely scenarios is that 1) the doctors are full of shit or 2) Hamas is shooting kids knowing the Israelis will get the blame.
Heh - Hamas is shooting these kids knowing full well that they, Hamas, have licence to blame Israel for this - and that it will be belived by all MFM, unchecked.
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:07:39am |
re: #79 loppyd
Hey {loppyd} wonder where the rest of the money came from?
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:07:52am |
re: #86 Racer X
Nah. He's black, blind, and a democrat and she is a Kennedy. What scandal?
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unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:07:53am |
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jwb7605 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:08:06am |
re: #86 Racer X
I smell another scandal brewing.
I think it's a good selection.
Might help break the blue northeast wall, next election.
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:08:18am |
How many rockets has Hamas fired into Israel since their *ahem* cease fire?
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lifeofthemind Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:08:31am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:08:32am |
Is it a flying pig moment? I imagine that this gentleman is generally sane. Or is the fact that the BBC broadcast the interview the flying pig moment.
Now if, oh lets say, a UN official had said that, would certainly be a flying SmithField Farms Stockyard.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:08:34am |
re: #83 realwest
WHOA - OT - There is a heavy snow storm warning (up to 6 inches of snow!) for the Charlotte area tonight and tomorrow morning!
SIX INCHES of snow!
OMG, this place is definetley shutting down with that much snow.
I just hope we don't lose power!
Where did I put that panic button?
Ah, here it is. You want me to pass this thing on to you?
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Pyrocles Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:08:39am |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:08:42am |
re: #79 loppyd
...Wall Street donated $7 mil. That makes my f-ing blood boil.
Well, they should, think of all the past and future bailout money.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:08:48am |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
The doctors in El-Arish cannot independently verify the accounts given by Gazan victims. But nothing they have seen discredits claims by civilians that they have been deliberately targeted.
Not guilty.
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:08:51am |
re: #50 brookly red
Ya think anyone in GB recalls what they did when rockets were fired at their cities?
They're mostly dead by now - or lingering in some old-age homes, disregarded by those who ought to hear their stories.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:09:30am |
I think I'll spend the day playing this game [NSFW] tomorrow. Seems appropriate.
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:09:30am |
re: #98 Ford_Prefect
No, no thanks, I already hit the panic button! LOL!
Long as we don't lose power we'll be ok!
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jwb7605 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:09:33am |
re: #95 MandyManners
How many rockets has Hamas fired into Israel since their *ahem* cease fire?
Mandy -- you can't expect Hamas to control all the rogue elements, can you?
/UN
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mikalm Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:09:36am |
re: #79 loppyd
Well spent in times like these.
Wall Street donated $7 mil. That makes my f-ing blood boil.
Think "protection payment." Or an investment on future bailouts.
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faraway Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:09:43am |
re: #68 Racer X
In all fairness the government is only spending around $45 million. The rest of the $170 million is private money.
Can't wait for the inauguration of the "historic" First Woman President in 2013
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Sharmuta Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:09:47am |
re: #86 Racer X
I smell another scandal brewing.
Hon- we're on the eve of clinton admin 3. There will be lots of brewing.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:10:00am |
re: #97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Is it a flying pig moment? I imagine that this gentleman is generally sane. Or is the fact that the BBC broadcast the interview the flying pig moment.
Now if, oh lets say, a UN official had said that, would certainly be a flying SmithField Farms Stockyard.
I really hope pigs aren't starting to fly. Getting bird poop off my windshield is bad enough.
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doppelganglander Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:10:21am |
re: #83 realwest
WHOA - OT - There is a heavy snow storm warning (up to 6 inches of snow!) for the Charlotte area tonight and tomorrow morning!
SIX INCHES of snow!
OMG, this place is definetley shutting down with that much snow.
I just hope we don't lose power!
Any word on whether it will pass through north Georgia? I'm well stocked up on milk, bread and eggs, so bring it on!
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:10:21am |
re: #83 realwest
WHOA - OT - There is a heavy snow storm warning (up to 6 inches of snow!) for the Charlotte area tonight and tomorrow morning!
SIX INCHES of snow!
OMG, this place is definetley shutting down with that much snow.
I just hope we don't lose power!
Oh yeah, SNOW! I hope it heads up to philly!
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DistantThunder Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:10:26am |
More from the pre-inaugural prayer:
Bless us with humility - open to understanding that our own needs must always be balanced with those of the world.Bless us with freedom from mere tolerance - replacing it with a genuine respect and warm embrace of our differences, and an understanding that in our diversity, we are stronger.
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Randall Gross Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:10:36am |
"If there were a crime deliberately committed there I have no doubt that Israel would call them to account".
This is part of the definition of Just Warfare, a concept that Hamas has no concept of of other than how they can use it against their foes.
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Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:10:55am |
re: #74 Slumbering Behemoth
Is this true? Where is the private money coming from?
Soros, Hollywood elitists (Sam Jackson, Halle Berry, Speilberg / Capshaw, etc), leading wealthy progressives, etc.
From USA Today
Federal law sets no limits on the size or source of inaugural contributions. Obama voluntarily has capped inaugural contributions at $50,000 each and chose not to accept money from federal lobbyists, political action committees, corporations or unions. He also set a $300,000 limit on the amount of money a fundraiser could collect from other donors.In addition, he has disclosed the names of inaugural fundraisers, along with all donations of $200 or more on the Presidential Inaugural Committee's website.
Those records show that Obama has relied on an elite group of 211 fundraisers to collect nearly 80% of the $35.3 million in contributions in increments of at least $200. An analysis by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics found that individuals associated with major corporations have played a significant role in bankrolling the inaugural festivities. More than $7 million — or nearly $1 out of every $5 — has come from individuals who work in the finance, insurance and real estate industries, the analysis shows.
Sheila Krumholz, the center's executive director, said Obama deserves credit for his public disclosure but said the fundraising is problematic. "Many deep-pocketed donors are hoping money still buys them access and influence," she said in a statement.
The Obama Administration, bought before even being inaugurated.
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Sharmuta Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:11:03am |
re: #108 faraway
Can't wait for the inauguration of the "historic" First Woman President in 2013
Not happening. Sexism and misogyny are still too prevalent in this country.
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:11:11am |
re: #100 Walter L. Newton
Don't know why you put in sarc tags there Walter; I'm frankly surprised that it wasn't more.
Course, we still don't know how much TARP money the banks have kicked in!
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vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:11:11am |
re: #94 ploome hineni
Those greedy Juice again! How dare they properly cultivate their stolen land with stolen Arab water.
sarc/
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:11:12am |
I gotta go again. Have fun!
Later Lizards!
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:11:25am |
re: #105 realwest
No, no thanks, I already hit the panic button! LOL!
Long as we don't lose power we'll be ok!
Don't worry, your power will stay on . . . . , we have to have you beside us, especially, tomorrow!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:11:31am |
By the way, it may be safe to watch The Daily Show again. He is certainly skewering Clinton/Kerry at the SOS Hearings.
When Clinton was President, Jon Stewart was ruthless.
Seriously. Used to be where I got the news.
I'm a little more serious now, but believe me, he pounded Clinton every day...hard.
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Racer X Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:11:33am |
re: #94 ploome hineni
Wow!
I say the U.S. should set the price of food we sell to them to exactly correlate to the price of oil they sell to us. Its only fair.
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Ford_Prefect Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:11:42am |
re: #116 ploome hineni
I think pig poop rolls
I don't care what you say, I am not eating pig poop rolls.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:11:58am |
re: #94 ploome hineni
why they hate us
UN: Arab World Faces Major Food Crisis
The President of the International Fund for Agricultural Development, Lennart Bage, stated that his organization would work to solve the lack by promoting agriculture in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.
What a shame that the Palestinians tore down the greenhouses.
Seriously, I think G-d has it worked out so Israel only blossoms for Jews.
/
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:12:03am |
re: #54 Izzy Dunne
former British Army Colonel is interviewed by the BBC and doesn’t blame Israel for civilian casualties in Gaza:
But of course.
Why do you think he's a former Army colonel?
Ahem.
Currently serving personnel in all branches of the British Armed Forces are not allowed to speak out on current affairs.
Them are the rules ...
To make it quite clear: he's not a former British Army Colonel because he stood up for Israel, he can speak out for Israel because he's already a former British Army Colonel.
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midwestgak Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:12:16am |
re: #102 yma o hyd
They're mostly dead by now - or lingering in some old-age homes, disregarded by those who ought to hear their stories.
Very good comment. updinged ya.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:13:14am |
re: #83 realwest
WHOA - OT - There is a heavy snow storm warning (up to 6 inches of snow!) for the Charlotte area tonight and tomorrow morning!
SIX INCHES of snow!
OMG, this place is definetley shutting down with that much snow.
I just hope we don't lose power!
We've got predictions of much colder weather, too, realwest - in the mid-to upper 20's! Don't know how we'll stay warm LOL.
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:13:17am |
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Cathypop Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:13:25am |
re: #125 Ford_Prefect
I don't care what you say, I am not eating pig poop rolls.
Those things are bad for your teeth
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:13:41am |
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:13:43am |
re: #117 Athos
From your quoted link: "Those records show that Obama has relied on an elite group of 211 fundraisers to collect nearly 80% of the $35.3 million in contributions in increments of at least $200."
Uh, seems to me that they are around $100 million short if the $170 million figure is correct!
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:13:56am |
re: #67 loppyd
I've been under the weather - sorry. Yes, send me a note the next time you're ready to start up.
OK. will do.
Hope you're better soon.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:14:00am |
Sorry if you guys talked about this last night, but while I was watching the Steelers pound the Ravens on CBS my senses were assaulted with repeated not-so-subliminal Obama propaganda.
In response to their own question about some lame show they say YES WE CAN
along with graphics of the same on the screen.
Followed by a stealth combo of CBS' logo morphed with O's for a split second on the screen and then the usual picture of the show's stars in the same theme as the Obama Hope posters.
Anyone else notice this?
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filetandrelease Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:14:01am |
It appeared to me that they couldn't get him off the air fast enough.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:14:08am |
re: #117 Athos
The Obama Administration, bought before even being inaugurated.
And we have McCain partly to blame for it.
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Racer X Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:14:15am |
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:14:15am |
re: #83 realwest
WHOA - OT - There is a heavy snow storm warning (up to 6 inches of snow!) for the Charlotte area tonight and tomorrow morning!
SIX INCHES of snow!
OMG, this place is definetley shutting down with that much snow.
I just hope we don't lose power!
Misery loves Company RealWest
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:14:32am |
re: #106 jwb7605
Mandy -- you can't expect Hamas to control all the rogue elements, can you?
/UN
A government monopolizes the means of coercion so, I reckon Hamas isn't a government.
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:14:44am |
re: #85 darkster2400
Wow - a military guy who speaks the truth - must be very incovenient to all the left wing kooks and nuts....
They'll have had their fingers firmly stuck in their ears, going 'LALALALALA - I can't hear you!'
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lifeofthemind Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:15:03am |
re: #127 yma o hyd
Ahem.
Currently serving personnel in all branches of the British Armed Forces are not allowed to speak out on current affairs.
Them are the rules ...To make it quite clear: he's not a former British Army Colonel because he stood up for Israel, he can speak out for Israel because he's already a former British Army Colonel.
Yes but if the word in the wardroom was that he is a Zionist, and they actually use the term as a pejorative, then his chance of getting promoted was nil. The surprise is that he made it to Colonel before being pushed out.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:15:18am |
re: #125 Ford_Prefect
I don't care what you say, I am not eating pig poop rolls.
Weren't those a Chinese delicacy during the Long March and the Cultural Revolution?
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mikalm Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:15:30am |
re: #102 yma o hyd
They're mostly dead by now - or lingering in some old-age homes, disregarded by those who ought to hear their stories.
On the other hand, I'm aware of a British revivalist subculture that apes the fashions of Blitz-era UK, and is obsessed with the goings-on of that dark time. They're sort of the equivalent of the US's "Swing Kids." At any rate, they help keep alive the memory of a Britain under siege by rocket- and bomb-lobbing totalitarians.
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:15:37am |
re: #139 HoosierHoops
Misery loves Company RealWest
We'll be great company for each other during this up and coming cold spell!
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unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:15:57am |
re: #114 DistantThunder
More from the pre-inaugural prayer:
HA! Tolerance is NOT one of the seven virtues.
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:16:03am |
re: #129 reine.de.tout
Hey reine! No LOL's about it - we have electric heat and the power lines around here seem to go down when too many sparrows sit on the same one!
Brrrr. No power means freezing cold inside the apartment and NO LGF!
Where the hell is that panic button again?!?
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Eowyn2 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:16:23am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
They are also claiming the kids were shot in the head at close range. The two most likely scenarios is that 1) the doctors are full of shit or 2) Hamas is shooting kids knowing the Israelis will get the blame.
subtle combination of both?
40 mile trip to a hospital with two bullets in the brain and they are still alive? Is there a doctor in the house who could verify this scenario as actually happening?
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:16:30am |
re: #94 ploome hineni
Heh - its always easier to live on donated food hand-outs than actually toiling the soil yourself ...
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:16:48am |
re: #107 mikalm
Think "protection payment." Or an investment on future bailouts.
The majority of Americans are mistaken when they equate Wall Street with Republicans. They are dead wrong.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:17:09am |
re: #117 Athos
Thank you. I am all for criticizing Obama, but I want to make sure it's for the right reasons, and with the right info. I don't want to sound like an ODS troofer.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:17:39am |
re: #136 filetandrelease
It appeared to me that they couldn't get him off the air fast enough.
Is that why the interview lasted almost 5 whole minutes? If the producers were not happy with the way the interview was going, they could have shut it down at anytime.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:17:40am |
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kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:17:41am |
re: #83 realwest
WHOA - OT - There is a heavy snow storm warning (up to 6 inches of snow!) for the Charlotte area tonight and tomorrow morning!
SIX INCHES of snow!
OMG, this place is definetley shutting down with that much snow.
I just hope we don't lose power!
I remember in 82 83 when I was in the Navy Norfolk got 7 inches man it shut that place down luckily it was warm enough the next day to melt quite a bit off of the streets.
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Eowyn2 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:17:46am |
re: #84 lifeofthemind
That level of science fiction is becoming a reality.
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
harry potter is jealous
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:18:03am |
re: #139 HoosierHoops
You don't have power Hoops?! Uh, we use electric for heat and cooking and internet; if y'all don't have power how are you out here on LGF?!
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midwestgak Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:18:09am |
re: #83 realwest
Feel for ya. We've been hammered the past month.
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Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:18:32am |
re: #133 realwest
I think that at least $40-50M of that $170M total estimated cost is the cost of the security that we the taxpayers are funding. But, yes, I think there are some gaps in the accounting - which really isn't a surprise given how they broke FEC laws regarding campaign fund raising during the Presidential election - they will find 'quiet' ways to get the funding regardless of if it is domestic or foreign / legal or illegal / in exchange for access.....
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Kenneth Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:18:45am |
Nice straight talk from the colonel. I'm sure I heard the sound of British journo jaws hitting the floor when he told them that the IDF was the most honourable army in the history of the world.
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:19:16am |
re: #154 kcladderman
Well they are saying that the HIGH temp (after the snowfall) is gonna be around 32 degrees, so I don't see much "melting"!
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Randall Gross Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:19:22am |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
Not all the British press is being so responsible....
Bullets in the brain, shrapnel in the spine: the terrible injuries suffered by children of Gaza
Note the article fails to mention details like the type or caliber of the bullet.
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:19:30am |
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:19:53am |
re: #157 midwestgak
Feel for ya. We've been hammered the past month.
Tell us about it. Got 6-1/2 to 7 inches of the white stuff back on Wednesday, with another 2 inches the Monday before, and a bit more on Saturday.
Then there was the problem of temperatures being as low as -30F. That's not including any wind chill.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:19:57am |
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:19:59am |
Sometimes, just sometimes, it's ok being a dentist. I treated a father who is a private contractor for the DOD. He is a translator. His son is in the Hygiene chair now. His son is in the US Army Reserves and a student. He will be well taken care of at a fraction of the my real fees and it will be the Highlight of my day.
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faraway Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:20:05am |
re: #118 Sharmuta
Not happening. Sexism and misogyny are still too prevalent in this country.
There is no male America, no female America, and no gay America, just the United States of America.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:20:05am |
re: #147 realwest
Hey reine! No LOL's about it - we have electric heat and the power lines around here seem to go down when too many sparrows sit on the same one!
Brrrr. No power means freezing cold inside the apartment and NO LGF!
Where the hell is that panic button again?!?
Been there, done that, Realwest, that's what the LOL was for, not for you.
Last time (which was years ago), I got a hotel room.
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midwestgak Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:20:23am |
re: #160 realwest
Well they are saying that the HIGH temp (after the snowfall) is gonna be around 32 degrees, so I don't see much "melting"!
A thaw can get going at that temperature and even lower.
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faraway Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:21:00am |
Too bad it will be his last interview at BBC.
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:21:07am |
re: #147 realwest
Hey reine! No LOL's about it - we have electric heat and the power lines around here seem to go down when too many sparrows sit on the same one!
Brrrr. No power means freezing cold inside the apartment and NO LGF!
Where the hell is that panic button again?!?
If your power goes out I will so a STAT phone call to you electric company . . . ., we can't do Tuesday without you!
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Honorary Yooper Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:21:15am |
re: #167 faraway
There is no male America, no female America, and no gay America, just the United States of America.
Yes, but remember, during the primaries and caucuses, it was all "bros, not hos".
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:21:49am |
re: #166 Nevergiveup
Sometimes, just sometimes, it's ok being a dentist. I treated a father who is a private contractor for the DOD. He is a translator. His son is in the Hygiene chair now. His son is in the US Army Reserves and a student. He will be well taken care of at a fraction of the my real fees and it will be the Highlight of my day.
I wish you lived closer! I'd give you my business.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:21:59am |
re: #156 realwest
You don't have power Hoops?! Uh, we use electric for heat and cooking and internet; if y'all don't have power how are you out here on LGF?!
oh..we have power..I was talking the misery of cold weather..
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:22:25am |
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:22:58am |
re: #165 loppyd
donors all expecting something in return....
I don't think they know Chicago thugdom.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:23:05am |
re: #161 Thanos
Note the article fails to mention details like the type or caliber of the bullet.
And I'll bet you (without researching it) that Israel uses something like the NATO "poodle-shooter" round. The AK-47's is far larger. Et cetera, et cetera.
/Noooooooo! That's the LAST goddam detail they'd want to mention!
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kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:23:12am |
re: #166 Nevergiveup
Thanks for taking care of Our Boys.
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lobo91 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:23:25am |
re: #94 ploome hineni
Personally, I think we need to return to the days when "trade" actually meant just that, instead of what we do today (buying stuff from one country for cash, while selling stuff to another country).
If the Arabs want food, fine. We should trade them a ship full of wheat, say, for a ship full of crude oil.
They get the food they need, we get the oil we need, and they don't get the money to buy weapons to use against us.
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:23:41am |
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:23:41am |
re: #174 HoosierHoops
oh..we have power..I was talking the misery of cold weather..
It's tropical 30 here today!
When the sun was out earlier it was pretty comfortable for shoveling.....AGAIN.
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realwest Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:24:00am |
Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta go get flashlight batteries and bread and stuff! LOL!
Anyway, I do have to go, hope to get the chance to see you all down the road!
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Eowyn2 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:24:03am |
re: #83 realwest
WHOA - OT - There is a heavy snow storm warning (up to 6 inches of snow!) for the Charlotte area tonight and tomorrow morning!
SIX INCHES of snow!
OMG, this place is definetley shutting down with that much snow.
I just hope we don't lose power!
what to do:
keep the broom by the front door
every couple of hours sweep the porch, walk, etc.
layers of clothes short sleeved t/long sleeved t/sweat shirt
layers of blankets work as well
If your hands get cold and you dont own snow gloves/mittens, then use a pair of wool socks if you have them. If not, you can wear two pairs of socks in layers.
good luck down there.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:24:10am |
re: #175 MandyManners
Let's take a road trip!
Would a couple weeks in Hawaii be considered a road trip? I want a sunburn..do you hear me? A sunburn!
LOL
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:24:16am |
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:24:20am |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
They are also claiming the kids were shot in the head at close range. The two most likely scenarios is that 1) the doctors are full of shit or 2) Hamas is shooting kids knowing the Israelis will get the blame.
Tali Hatuel and her kids were all shot in the head a close range.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:24:21am |
re: #176 MandyManners
I don't think they know Chicago thugdom.
Not from the looks of that picture! Moonbat convention.
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midwestgak Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:24:43am |
re: #179 lobo91
America doesn't barter with food. If people are starving, we feed them.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:24:53am |
re: #182 realwest
Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta go get flashlight batteries and bread and stuff! LOL!
Anyway, I do have to go, hope to get the chance to see you all down the road!
good luck with the storm, handsome!
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:24:58am |
re: #175 MandyManners
Let's take a road trip!
Be careful you two, and don't you dare drive that beautiful T-Bird off the cliff.
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:25:09am |
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:25:13am |
re: #184 HoosierHoops
Would a couple weeks in Hawaii be considered a road trip? I want a sunburn..do you hear me? A sunburn!
LOL
We can't drive to Hawaii.
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Flavia Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:25:19am |
Surely I am not the only one to remember that even the UN was forced to admit - re: Lebanon - that terrorists are responsible for civilian casualties when they use civilians as shields...? It was definitely a stunned monkey moment - but it doesn't take away from my pleasure over this gentleman's character.
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:25:34am |
re: #187 loppyd
Not from the looks of that picture! Moonbat convention.
Very rich Wall Street moonbats.
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Sizzlack Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:25:36am |
OT: Any lizards here in NYC have any idea what is about to go down on 5th avenue downtown? They were towing cars all morning and setting up metal barricades and now about 50 police have assembled in front of Pier One on 15th St. I saw a column of police cars come racing into the area yet I have no clue what is going down...some sort of parade I assume?
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Eowyn2 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:25:40am |
re: #160 realwest
Well they are saying that the HIGH temp (after the snowfall) is gonna be around 32 degrees, so I don't see much "melting"!
32 is freezing point so what you will probably have is snow melting as it hits the ground depending on the severity of the storm and the wind.
Of course, you're in NC so the marines will come dig you out if necessary.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:26:48am |
re: #196 Sizzlack
OT: Any lizards here in NYC have any idea what is about to go down on 5th avenue downtown? They were towing cars all morning and setting up metal barricades and now about 50 police have assembled in front of Pier One on 15th St. I saw a column of police cars come racing into the area yet I have no clue what is going down...some sort of parade I assume?
Out lying porta-potties for the inauguration.
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:26:52am |
re: #196 Sizzlack
OT: Any lizards here in NYC have any idea what is about to go down on 5th avenue downtown? They were towing cars all morning and setting up metal barricades and now about 50 police have assembled in front of Pier One on 15th St. I saw a column of police cars come racing into the area yet I have no clue what is going down...some sort of parade I assume?
Isn't BHO and MO starting their walk from there to DC?
/////
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:27:03am |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:27:12am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:27:15am |
re: #123 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
By the way, it may be safe to watch The Daily Show again. He is certainly skewering Clinton/Kerry at the SOS Hearings.
When Clinton was President, Jon Stewart was ruthless.
Seriously. Used to be where I got the news.
I'm a little more serious now, but believe me, he pounded Clinton every day...hard.
Entirely and complete retraction. Watched for a few more minutes. Now Gaza/Israel...Bush's fault.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:27:22am |
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:27:41am |
re: #191 CyanSnowHawk
Be careful you two, and don't you dare drive that beautiful T-Bird off the cliff.
I never understood why they did that.
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lobo91 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:27:42am |
re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat
And I'll bet you (without researching it) that Israel uses something like the NATO "poodle-shooter" round. The AK-47's is far larger. Et cetera, et cetera.
/Noooooooo! That's the LAST goddam detail they'd want to mention!
Yes, the IDF uses 5.56 mm individual weapons. Easily distinguishable from the 7.62x39 AK rounds used by Hamas.
They also use 7.62x51 and .50 cal vehicle-mounted weapons., but I doubt that anyone would survive being shot in the head with either.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:27:59am |
re: #195 MandyManners
Very rich Wall Street moonbats.
Did you see Dr. Evil sitting under the stairs like a troll?
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:28:06am |
Gotta' go tend to The Kid. He has a cold. bbl
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:28:16am |
re: #189 ploome hineni
well, I got a new car
:D
re: #200 MandyManners
I promise not to mash Cheetos into the carpet.
I promise not to sing 99 Bottles of Beer . . . .
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MandyManners Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:28:20am |
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Kenneth Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:28:37am |
re: #94 ploome hineni
why they hate us... Israeli agriculture makes up just 2.5% of Israel's Gross Domestic Product (GDP), but accounts for a whopping 95% of Israel's food requirements.
That's it! Of the hundreds of millions of square miles of Arab territory, those nasty Zionists stole the one tiny piece of rocky desert that actually grows food!
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:28:49am |
re: #193 MandyManners
We can't drive to Hawaii.
ok Then lets go to Europe...We could hang at in the south of France then drive to Rome..Visit a Greek Island..then...
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:29:02am |
re: #175 MandyManners
Let's take a road trip!
re: #201 reine.de.tout
I'm ready!
Are you bringing food? Cause you have the best food, EVER!
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:29:32am |
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Eowyn2 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:29:43am |
re: #164 Honorary Yooper
Tell us about it. Got 6-1/2 to 7 inches of the white stuff back on Wednesday, with another 2 inches the Monday before, and a bit more on Saturday.
Then there was the problem of temperatures being as low as -30F. That's not including any wind chill.
warmer temps on the way if you get any of your weather from us. weve been in the 50s and 60s (ice is still not melted)
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Caboose Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:29:48am |
re: #52 Racer X
Recession?
I blew an opportunity. I shoulda gone out and had some cheap-ass 0bama tchotkes made up (where the O is really a zero) and sold 'em at a premium to the star-struck rubes. Coulda made me a fortune! Would have had to do it mail-order, since I'm a person of pallor and we can't have us honchos exploiting duh-masses, now can we? (I'm gonna get a smackin' upside the head, I just know it...)
(Anyone else wondering how long it will be before we see those 0bama commemorative plates being sold in drug stores getting marked down in price drastically? Or before the surplus is sold to shooting ranges as inexpensive alternatives to clay pigeons?) (naughty, naughty me...)
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Sharmuta Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:29:50am |
re: #167 faraway
There is no male America, no female America, and no gay America, just the United States of America.
That sounds like a paraphrase from 0bama's Denver speech.
Deny it all you want, but in 2008 I was shocked to realize the depths that sexism still runs in this country and was utterly disgusted. It's not something I feel is fixable in a 4 year time span.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:29:52am |
re: #207 MandyManners
Gotta' go tend to The Kid. He has a cold. bbl
I should check on the BF - my quasi child when he's sick.
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danS Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:29:53am |
# 3 is tight. The BBC has nothing to do with this rare occurrence of sanity in Britain.
On the contrary; the interviewer concentrates on only one aspect- innocent Palestinian civilians and how they're suffering because of Israel.
That's the only prism through which the BBC ever looks. Even when another BBC interviewer gave a Hamashole in Lebanon a very rough time, his beef was exclusively the Suffering of Palestinians, and only Palestinians, caused by the lunatic conduct of Hamas.
This video also shows the poor journalistic practices and dishonesty on the part of BBC reporters and anchors. The guy says at one point "I could give you examples [of IDF measures to minimize civilian casualties], if you're interested". Obviously, she wasn't interested. Anything that might shed some light, or give actual and valuable information on the situation is set aside in order to push the emotive narratives on the agenda.
No flying pig deserved.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:30:46am |
re: #212 outsidephilly
re: #175 MandyManners
Let's take a road trip!
Are you bringing food? Cause you have the best food, EVER!
Oooh, those fried dough things!
And crawfish!
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:30:56am |
re: #159 Kenneth
Nice straight talk from the colonel. I'm sure I heard the sound of British journo jaws hitting the floor when he told them that the IDF was the most honourable army in the history of the world.
As he served in Afghanistan, he's not somebody they can just treat like a raving lunatic - not when most of Brits are acutley aware of what is happening there and how our lads are doing.
That attitude, of treating representatives of the Armed Forces, especially the Army, like intellectualy challenged, is on its way out.
Mind - I wonder how may complaints from the 'moderate' muslims they got for that interview!
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:31:14am |
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:31:17am |
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danS Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:31:25am |
Oops. Maybe #3 is tight. But in this case he's right.
Apologies.
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vapig Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:31:38am |
re: #179 lobo91
Personally, I think we need to return to the days when "trade" actually meant just that, instead of what we do today (buying stuff from one country for cash, while selling stuff to another country).
If the Arabs want food, fine. We should trade them a ship full of wheat, say, for a ship full of crude oil.
They get the food they need, we get the oil we need, and they don't get the money to buy weapons to use against us.
I like that! With the "One" at the helm, we may be back to that sooner than you think - at least on a national level.
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Hooray for Captain Spaulding Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:31:43am |
One of the medical team leaders at the hospital, Dr Ayman Abd al-Hadi, said that this was the worst conflict he had experienced. "We've had one child with two bullets in the head and nowhere else," he said. "We think that this shows something
Just this shows Paliwood in action.
One shot shatters the skull, the other severs it.
We're talking 5.56mm, FMJ bullets here, not .22 short.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:31:48am |
re: #220 ploome hineni
they killed a man, and were going to get locked up
and they had just begun to taste freedom
they were not going back
They should have lied and said Gina Davis' character shot him in self defense.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:32:00am |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:32:14am |
re: #223 buzzsawmonkey
Today's a federal holiday, so today there is definitely no mail, America.
That's ok, I'm not expecting my check from Obama until Wed. Gosh, things will be so much easier when I get his check.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:32:35am |
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:32:43am |
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opinionated Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:32:56am |
Hamas was elected by the people of Gaza.
So it occurred to me with these constant questions being asked about the suffering in Gaza of "all these people who have nothing to do with Hamas" that I have a question of my own.
I didn't vote for Obama. I have nothing to do with Obama. Should I be protected from the damage that he will certainly cause? Should I not pay the higher taxes that he will certainly raise? Will I not get blown up if our security suffers- as it certainly will- and terrorists attack?
Can I appeal to the UN for immunity from Obama because I didn't vote for him, it was just those other Americans.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:33:21am |
re: #227 vapig
I like that! With the "One" at the helm, we may be back to that sooner than you think - at least on a national level.
Maybe we could trade Obama for some oil... oops... come to think about it... that sounds like... never mind.
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:33:26am |
re: #220 ploome hineni
they killed a man, and were going to get locked up
and they had just begun to taste freedom
they were not going back
Actually -
If I recall - they were not necessarily going to be locked up.
But they thought they were.
Plus, they no longer had young and gorgeous Brad Pitt with 'em.
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:33:33am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:33:38am |
re: #231 Walter L. Newton
That's ok, I'm not expecting my check from Obama until Wed. Gosh, things will be so much easier when I get his check.
You only get a check if you can't afford a mortgage you shouldn't have gotten in the first place, or if you gave someone who clearly couldn't pay a mortgage, or if you are building cars no one wants to buy.
Everyone else pays.
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unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:33:39am |
re: #215 Caboose
... sold to shooting ranges as inexpensive alternatives to clay pigeons
In some necks of the wood, that is already underway.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:34:02am |
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Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:34:08am |
re: #231 Walter L. Newton
That's ok, I'm not expecting my check from Obama until Wed. Gosh, things will be so much easier when I get his check.
Hey, that's right. I was so worried about only getting an IOU from Ahnold, that I forgot that starting the 21st, my mortgage, car payments, gas, and utilities are all being paid by the Obama Administration.....
/sarc
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:34:12am |
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:34:34am |
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:34:44am |
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:34:57am |
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Eowyn2 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:34:58am |
re: #229 loppyd
They should have lied and said Gina Davis' character shot him in self defense.
a lie? in the movies?
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:35:31am |
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Eowyn2 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:35:35am |
time to get some work done
bbsot
(be back some other time)
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reine.de.tout Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:35:37am |
re: #241 HoosierHoops
We need to rent a convertible...
I'm thinking of getting a Toyota Solara convertible.
What do ya'll think?
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astronmr20 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:35:49am |
re: #11 WriterMom
I suspect that a lot of British people-especially within the security establishment GET IT, but they are being crippled by political correctness and dhimmitude politicians.
Indeed.
And this is not necessarily any indication, but watching the comments on news stories like this in online publications does give me some home.
Israel may be more of a wash in this regard, but I see more and more comments from Brits these days who seem to "get it" about radical islam in their midst.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:35:53am |
re: #234 opinionated
Can I appeal to the UN for immunity from Obama because I didn't vote for him, it was just those other Americans.
UN immunity means you now have UN protection.
Good luck with that one.
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:36:04am |
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opinionated Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:36:07am |
The Colonel offered to offer evidence of Israel's care to protect civilians if the questioner was interested.
Somehow, she found no time even as she feigned interest.
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faraway Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:36:14am |
Still think Obama should compare himself to Lincoln?
Lincoln said this in the 1858 Charleston debates:
I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people ... I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:36:21am |
re: #239 Kosh's Shadow
You only get a check if you can't afford a mortgage you shouldn't have gotten in the first place, or if you gave someone who clearly couldn't pay a mortgage, or if you are building cars no one wants to buy. Everyone else pays.
I've ask this question around my circle of friends. I wanted to know if they knew anyone who was close to foreclosure and got any sort of benefit, new mortgage, a time out on the foreclosure proceedings or whatever.
I can find people who have been or are being foreclosed on, but I can't find anyone who has benefit from ANY of the bailout money.
Can any Lizard help?
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Racer X Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:36:21am |
re: #16 Killgore Trout
"I can't precisely decide whether these children are being shot at as a target, but in some cases the bullet comes from the front of the head and goes towards the back, so I think the gun has been directly pointed at the child."
Perhaps the kids are looking up at the helicopters that the guy down the street is shooting the AK-47 at?
Bullets fall down.
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vapig Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:36:42am |
re: #216 Sharmuta
That sounds like a paraphrase from 0bama's Denver speech.
Deny it all you want, but in 2008 I was shocked to realize the depths that sexism still runs in this country and was utterly disgusted. It's not something I feel is fixable in a 4 year time span.
I don't think that was really a matter of sexism. That was ideological intolerant bigotry. They do the same thing to minorities. Look what they did to Michael Steele, Alberto Gonzalez and Clarence Thomas. The left is all about race, class and gender - but only when it suits them. They are the most intolerant bigots EVER when it comes to ideology.
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ciaospirit Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:37:13am |
re: #55 loppyd
Rush is really good today.
Echoing what I have been yelling at the TV all weekend.
Ain't it the truth.
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Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:37:15am |
re: #234 opinionated
Can I appeal to the UN for immunity from Obama because I didn't vote for him, it was just those other Americans.
Since you didn't vote for the Messiah, No. According to the UN, you are probably 'one of those' and not worth support until you amend your evil ways and swear allegience to The One.....or prove that you are the victim of Zionist imperialist aggression.
/channel UN leftbot....
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ciaospirit Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:37:59am |
Missed the other thread, so let me say Yay! for the Border Agent pardons!
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:38:18am |
re: #263 ciaospirit
Missed the other thread, so let me say Yay! for the Border Agent pardons!
The other thread is still there?
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Haverwilde Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:38:40am |
re: #68 Racer X
In all fairness the government is only spending around $45 million. The rest of the $170 million is private money.
In all fairness most of the Bush 42 million was also private money. So 'His Oneness" is even more wasteful of the public dollars.
Who would of thought that possible.
An no MSM negative comments, I am so surprised!
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ciaospirit Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:39:14am |
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debutaunt Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:39:23am |
re: #95 MandyManners
How many rockets has Hamas fired into Israel since their *ahem* cease fire?
I wonder how many are acceptable during a ceasefire on one side and a rocketfire on the other.
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subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:39:25am |
Okay, I went to the Presidential Inauguration Committee site to see if I could find a list of donors, and (in need of blood pressure pill NOW), found this:
NEA & AFT Partner with the PIC to Bring the Inauguration to the Classroom
The only laugh I got was when I read the name of the Executive Director:
Emmett S. Beliveau
Believe a you? Not hardly.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:39:32am |
re: #234 opinionated
Hamas was elected by the people of Gaza.
So it occurred to me with these constant questions being asked about the suffering in Gaza of "all these people who have nothing to do with Hamas" that I have a question of my own.
I didn't vote for Obama. I have nothing to do with Obama. Should I be protected from the damage that he will certainly cause? Should I not pay the higher taxes that he will certainly raise? Will I not get blown up if our security suffers- as it certainly will- and terrorists attack?
Can I appeal to the UN for immunity from Obama because I didn't vote for him, it was just those other Americans.
Like the USA, the "majority" of people did not vote for Hamas. The final vote tally was 44.5% Hamas, 41.5% Fatah, the other votes were split amongst 9 other "parties" and factions.
There are many Palis that do not agree with what Hamas is doing, but what is their option?
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astronmr20 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:39:39am |
re: #257 Walter L. Newton
I've ask this question around my circle of friends. I wanted to know if they knew anyone who was close to foreclosure and got any sort of benefit, new mortgage, a time out on the foreclosure proceedings or whatever.
I can find people who have been or are being foreclosed on, but I can't find anyone who has benefit from ANY of the bailout money.
Can any Lizard help?
First bailout is gone and spent. I don't think anyone in government even intended or expected it to reach homeowners in foreclosure.
If at all, that will likely happen with the trillion we are about to hand over to 0.
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outsidephilly Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:39:55am |
re: #249 loppyd
when I get back in a few you are going DOWN!
the 'chick fight' will have to be postponed -
(got to get back to work)
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Cathypop Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:40:31am |
re: #272 outsidephilly
the 'chick fight' will have to be postponed -
(got to get back to work)
You wooos
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unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:40:42am |
re: #272 outsidephilly
the 'chick fight' will have to be postponed -
(got to get back to work)
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ciaospirit Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:41:09am |
re: #265 Haverwilde
In all fairness most of the Bush 42 million was also private money. So 'His Oneness" is even more wasteful of the public dollars.
Who would of thought that possible.
An no MSM negative comments, I am so surprised!
In all fairness, the media and Dems trashed Bush. How come not Obama? Especially since we're in a NEAR DEPRESSION according to B Hussein.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:42:32am |
re: #251 reine.de.tout
I'm thinking of getting a Toyota Solara convertible.
What do ya'll think?
Cool, very cool.
I have a Toyota Avalon.
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ciaospirit Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:42:34am |
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vapig Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:42:36am |
re: #262 Sharmuta
Except they did the same thing to Hillary.
mmmmm - not at first. She was the queen bee for a while. They only dissed her after they decided to throw in their lot for the "One."
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:42:37am |
re: #276 ciaospirit
In all fairness, the media and Dems trashed Bush. How come not Obama? Especially since we're in a NEAR DEPRESSION according to B Hussein.
I think you answered your own query!
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unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:42:41am |
re: #276 ciaospirit
Tell B. Hussein not to worry. It's gonna be a REAL DEPRESSION real soon.
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debutaunt Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:42:51am |
re: #123 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
By the way, it may be safe to watch The Daily Show again. He is certainly skewering Clinton/Kerry at the SOS Hearings.
When Clinton was President, Jon Stewart was ruthless.
Seriously. Used to be where I got the news.
I'm a little more serious now, but believe me, he pounded Clinton every day...hard.
Letterman used to be funny back then.
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Ben Hur Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:42:57am |
$170 million?
Do you know how much body armor that could by for Hamas?!?
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:43:20am |
re: #277 faraway
Rush: fleas are taking out Al Qaeda
The plague is running rampant in AQ training camps.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:43:35am |
re: #260 ciaospirit
Ain't it the truth.
Seriously, am I supposed to throw away all that I believe in for this "moment"?
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opinionated Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:43:41am |
re: #270 sattv4u2
There are many Palis that do not agree with what Hamas is doing,
Right you are. They are not among those who prefer Hamas' methods to destroy Israel, they are instead for Fatah's more sophisticated methods to destroy Israel.
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lobo91 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:43:43am |
re: #283 unreconstructed rebel
Tell B. Hussein not to worry. It's gonna be a REAL DEPRESSION real soon.
I've been depressed since November 4th.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:44:13am |
re: #285 Ben Hur
$170 million?
Do you know how much body armor that could by for Hamas?!?
I don't know. How much to babies cost now?
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Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:44:17am |
re: #277 faraway
Rush: fleas are taking out Al Qaeda
Can the NYT article accusing the US of employing biological warfare against AQ be far behind?
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:44:26am |
re: #272 outsidephilly
the 'chick fight' will have to be postponed -
(got to get back to work)
suuuure you do.
:)
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Racer X Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:44:42am |
re: #286 CyanSnowHawk
The plague is running rampant in AQ training camps.
Your tax dollars at work. Go CIA!
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:44:51am |
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Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:44:59am |
re: #286 CyanSnowHawk
The plague is running rampant in AQ training camps.
7th Century ideology - 7th Century civilization - 7th Century diseases.
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faraway Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:45:20am |
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astronmr20 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:45:36am |
re: #284 debutaunt
Letterman used to be funny back then.
He pounded clinton ONLY because sex in the oval office is funny. Once he acquired BDS, ripping on Bush was funnier to him.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:45:49am |
re: #271 astronmr20
First bailout is gone and spent. I don't think anyone in government even intended or expected it to reach homeowners in foreclosure. If at all, that will likely happen with the trillion we are about to hand over to 0.
Actually, my question was my point. And whether you agree with the bailouts or not (I don't), I can bet you dollars to donuts that none of the money in any way will actually see the pockets of someone who can really use it.
The incentive programs that Obama is talking about, the public work projects being beg on from governors and mayors, is the same as pork. So proven my just looking at what some of the anticipated projects encompass.
Obama has not intent of stopping entitlements and pork and handout. What he is going to do is shift the methods of delivery, add some Newspeak name to it all and tap dance it throught the Houses.
Hope and change my ass.
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debutaunt Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:46:48am |
re: #137 Walter L. Newton
And we have McCain partly to blame for it.
Good grief - maybe McCain is the Manchurian Candidate who was set-up to get a Marxist elected.
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unreconstructed rebel Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:47:05am |
re: #286 CyanSnowHawk
The plague is running rampant in AQ training camps.
So far, I'm reading it's an issue in a camp. Do you have info that it has spread?
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:47:06am |
re: #268 debutaunt
I wonder how many are acceptable during a ceasefire on one side and a rocketfire on the other.
Oh - they'll go quiet on the rockets - but they seem to ahve overlooked that Olmert said the IDF would pay back in full if any israeli soldier was harmed in Gaza.
So what do they do?
Isreallycool has this:
'9:15PM: According to the IDF, Head Hamashole Ismail Haniyeh has ordered his terrorists to harm IDF soldiers in Gaza despite the ceasefire.'
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:47:11am |
re: #295 Athos
7th Century ideology - 7th Century civilization - 7th Century diseases.
You almost have to admire their dedication to period realism.
I do some medieval reenactment from time to time, but we try to leave the really bad stuff in the history books.
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astronmr20 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:47:12am |
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:47:22am |
re: #257 Walter L. Newton
I've ask this question around my circle of friends. I wanted to know if they knew anyone who was close to foreclosure and got any sort of benefit, new mortgage, a time out on the foreclosure proceedings or whatever.
I can find people who have been or are being foreclosed on, but I can't find anyone who has benefit from ANY of the bailout money.
Can any Lizard help?
I don't know if the person I know got bailout money, but she was on the verge and was able to get help in the form of a ridiculously low rate.
In the light of full disclosure I don't care for this person and think she brought on all of her problems herself.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:47:57am |
re: #251 reine.de.tout
I'm thinking of getting a Toyota Solara convertible.
What do ya'll think?
or we could rent a bus..that way we can play scrabble and cards while
somebody is stuck driving..
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astronmr20 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:48:02am |
re: #300 unreconstructed rebel
So far, I'm reading it's an issue in a camp. Do you have info that it has spread?
And I'm guessing it was a work accident.
AQ has a lot more in store for us....
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:48:07am |
re: #299 debutaunt
Good grief - maybe McCain is the Manchurian Candidate who was set-up to get a Marxist elected.
I was talking about in the sense of campaign finance laws. But you make an interesting literary comparison.
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Athos Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:48:10am |
re: #298 Walter L. Newton
Hope and change my ass.
He's offering nothing but the same failed ideas and concepts of FDR - and revisiting FDR's efforts to introduce a 'benign' form of fascism to the country. If Hope and Change fails because of 5 - 4 SCOTUS rulings, is there any doubt that he would push to stack the Court just as FDR attempted?
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:48:12am |
re: #298 Walter L. Newton
Actually, my question was my point. And whether you agree with the bailouts or not (I don't), I can bet you dollars to donuts that none of the money in any way will actually see the pockets of someone who can really use it.
The incentive programs that Obama is talking about, the public work projects being beg on from governors and mayors, is the same as pork. So proven my just looking at what some of the anticipated projects encompass.
Obama has not intent of stopping entitlements and pork and handout. What he is going to do is shift the methods of delivery, add some Newspeak name to it all and tap dance it throught the Houses.
Hope and change my ass.
And these jobs will certainly be union only jobs.
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faraway Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:48:18am |
Bombshell on Oprah:
Jill Biden said President-elect Barack Obama gave Biden the choice of being secretary of state or vice president.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:48:23am |
re: #283 unreconstructed rebel
Tell B. Hussein not to worry. It's gonna be a REAL DEPRESSION real soon.
Well, I'm getting depressed.
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Aisha bint Abi Bakr Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:48:25am |
G-d at work here? The plague kills 40 Muslim terrorists?
[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]
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Ay, Caramba Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:48:41am |
We still get a couple of plague cases each year in the U.S.
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midwestgak Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:49:16am |
re: #305 HoosierHoops
or we could rent a bus..that way we can play scrabble and cards while
somebody is stuck driving..
I like Hearts.
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vapig Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:49:40am |
re: #295 Athos
7th Century ideology - 7th Century civilization - 7th Century diseases.
It does seem apropos, doesn't it?
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yma o hyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:49:57am |
re: #277 faraway
Rush: fleas are taking out Al Qaeda
Yeah - pretty good story, that:
The Black Death has reportedly killed at least 40 al-Qaeda operatives in North Africa.
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DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:50:14am |
re: #291 Athos
Can the NYT article accusing the US of employing biological warfare against AQ be far behind?
I would be impressed if the CIA were behind something like that, but using bio weapons would probably break a treaty or two.
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astronmr20 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:50:19am |
re: #304 loppyd
I don't know if the person I know got bailout money, but she was on the verge and was able to get help in the form of a ridiculously low rate.
In the light of full disclosure I don't care for this person and think she brought on all of her problems herself.
Yup. Not everyone brought it on themselves, but I'd venture to say MOST people did.
Buying a house with no money down, refinance cash-outs, new cars, and credit cards.
It's a "what can I afford per month?" mentality. And it's madness if you have no cushion for when you lose your job. Russian roulette.
Then the left wants to call these people "victims." We are doomed.
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redstateredneck Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:50:26am |
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newsjunkie_ky Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:50:27am |
Yep, tomorrow is an historic day. It is the beginning of the end of a capitalist America. Feel like flying the Flag at half-mast.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:50:29am |
re: #304 loppyd
I don't know if the person I know got bailout money, but she was on the verge and was able to get help in the form of a ridiculously low rate.
In the light of full disclosure I don't care for this person and think she brought on all of her problems herself.
Was that because of some bailout money sitting in some banks coffers or just a bank dying for some kind of business. Almost all banks and lenders right now are offer deep cuts in interest rate. Not because of bailout money, but because of lack of business.
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lobo91 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:50:36am |
re: #300 unreconstructed rebel
So far, I'm reading it's an issue in a camp. Do you have info that it has spread?
It's very possible that it will, given that it's highly contagious, and those exposed to it will be unlikely to seek medical treatment for fear of being discovered/captured.
It's sort of like that ant poison they make, where the ants bring it back and share it with the whol colony.
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subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:50:48am |
re: #304 loppyd
I don't know if the person I know got bailout money, but she was on the verge and was able to get help in the form of a ridiculously low rate.
In the light of full disclosure I don't care for this person and think she brought on all of her problems herself.
If you don't like her now, think what you'll think of her if she does this:
Mortgage Re-Default Rates Going from Bad to Worse
(It's from Dec 22nd, but you know it's only worse now.)
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ciaospirit Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:51:00am |
re: #287 loppyd
Seriously, am I supposed to throw away all that I believe in for this "moment"?
For a fraudulent moment.
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Justabill Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:51:09am |
re: #205 lobo91
Yes, the IDF uses 5.56 mm individual weapons. Easily distinguishable from the 7.62x39 AK rounds used by Hamas.
They also use 7.62x51 and .50 cal vehicle-mounted weapons., but I doubt that anyone would survive being shot in the head with either.
With the .50 there wouldn't be a head.
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astronmr20 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:51:20am |
re: #312 Aisha bint Abi Bakr
G-d at work here? The plague kills 40 Muslim terrorists?
[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]
Work accident, I fear.
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CyanSnowHawk Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:51:53am |
re: #300 unreconstructed rebel
So far, I'm reading it's an issue in a camp. Do you have info that it has spread?
The report that I linked says it started in one camp, and that many had fled. AQ leadership fears that there could be many cells infected now. The long incubation period between infection and symptoms, all while being very infectious, is going to make this a very bad problem.
This is not going to end well.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:52:20am |
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:52:27am |
re: #320 newsjunkie_ky
Yep, tomorrow is an historic day. It is the beginning of the end of a capitalist America. Feel like flying the Flag at half-mast.
I suggest Charles run a thread
"A Wake for Freedom and Capitalism in America"
Don't get too depressed. Next week, the 0bama administration will get the names of all us lizards, and we'll be sent to re-education camps.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:52:33am |
re: #314 midwestgak
I like Hearts.
I remember we could play hearts all night long and go to class like it was nothing..I wonder why I got such lousy grades?
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vapig Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:52:34am |
re: #300 unreconstructed rebel
So far, I'm reading it's an issue in a camp. Do you have info that it has spread?
From the article: The epidemic began in the hideouts of the al-Qaida in the Land of the Islamic Maghreb in Algiers, sources told The Sun. The group fled to Bejaia and Jijel provinces.
It's highly contagious and they beat feet. I have no doubt there are some carriers in that group.
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loppyd Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:52:55am |
re: #323 subsailor68
If you don't like her now, think what you'll think of her if she does this:
Mortgage Re-Default Rates Going from Bad to Worse
(It's from Dec 22nd, but you know it's only worse now.)
The definition of insanity.
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lifeofthemind Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:53:00am |
re: #296 faraway
Rats!
In related news, a committee of rats have hired a lawyer to sue al Qaida. Counselor Mouthpiece Ratson issued the following statement. "They are ruining our peaceful communities, bring death and destruction."
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Ay, Caramba Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:53:56am |
re: #322 lobo91
Their being intimate with each other due to the lack of women (or young boys) in these camps also contributes to the spread of the plague.
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midwestgak Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:54:21am |
re: #333 HoosierHoops
I remember we could play hearts all night long and go to class like it was nothing..I wonder why I got such lousy grades?
I knew a guy who could give the Queen to any damn player he chose.
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lobo91 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:54:51am |
re: #318 astronmr20
Yup. Not everyone brought it on themselves, but I'd venture to say MOST people did.
Buying a house with no money down, refinance cash-outs, new cars, and credit cards.
It's a "what can I afford per month?" mentality. And it's madness if you have no cushion for when you lose your job. Russian roulette.
Then the left wants to call these people "victims." We are doomed.
I noticed a major trend among salespeople toward that same mindset over the past few years.
I walked out of a car dealership one time, when the salesperson flat out refused to give me a firm dollar price for the car I was looking at. All he would do is quote me monthly payments, despite the fact that I told him several times that I wasn't going to finance it through them.
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Digital Display Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:54:53am |
re: #332 Kosh's Shadow
I suggest Charles run a thread
"A Wake for Freedom and Capitalism in America"Don't get too depressed. Next week, the 0bama administration will get the names of all us lizards, and we'll be sent to re-education camps.
Obama promised me a trip to Dwight Howard's Basketball camp..
You guys should have been nicer to him..
/
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midwestgak Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:55:21am |
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Ay, Caramba Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:55:38am |
re: #339 lobo91
yep, they did the same to me. I actually walked out of one ford dealership.
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subsailor68 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:56:02am |
re: #335 loppyd
The definition of insanity.
It most certainly is! I keep thinking, okay, what's the way to keep someone in their home?
What's your mortgage per month?
$1000 on a thirty year mortgage, and I can't afford that.
Well, what can you afford?
I can only afford $100 a month.
Let's see, we'll just re-set your mortgage. Instead of 30 years, you now have 300 years to pay it back.
(Three months later, they were back in default.)
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:56:10am |
Col. Richard Kemp interview on Afghanistan
[Link: link.brightcove.com...]
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redstateredneck Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:56:26am |
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opinionated Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:56:45am |
My memory is pretty good but I wish I could remember more exactly previous Inaugurations.
I remember them all to be celebrations. Which makes sense.
But watching CNBC this morning I saw their commercial for coverage of the Inaugural on sister network MSNBC and the touting of the word "hope" was only slightly muffed by the freaken unbelievable music that accompanied the piece. A kind of solemn music one only hears when maybe the Pope visits.
This Inauguration is a religious experience and I guess those of us who are not worshipping are the new heathens.
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kcladderman Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:57:34am |
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newsjunkie_ky Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:58:00am |
re: #332 Kosh's Shadow
I suggest Charles run a thread
"A Wake for Freedom and Capitalism in America"Don't get too depressed. Next week, the 0bama administration will get the names of all us lizards, and we'll be sent to re-education camps.
That sounds like a good thread. I will not watch this 'historic' event. I will however listen to Rush do running commentary on the sermon(speech) on the steps.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Jan 19, 2009 11:59:14am |
re: #251 reine.de.tout
I'm thinking of getting a Toyota Solara convertible.
What do ya'll think?
You will love it. Great mileage, sporty, good acceleration, solid ride, adequate back seat, large trunk, very quiet ride.
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DeafDog Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:00:09pm |
re: #347 opinionated
This is why the media won the the Fiskie.
Who really knows what "the mood of the country" is, but Obama got 53% of the vote, which is just about the same as Bush got in 2004.
Since 95% of the MSM wanted him, however, the news rooms are all atwitter and they are projected their enthusiasm onto the country.
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vagabond trader Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:06:26pm |
re: #352 FightingBack
A soldiers soldier.Meanwhile the likes of bho is practicing how to salute.
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doppelganglander Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:06:36pm |
re: #251 reine.de.tout
I'm thinking of getting a Toyota Solara convertible.
What do ya'll think?
I don't know about the Solara specifically, but I've had nothing but good experiences with Toyotas. I had a Corolla with over 160K miles when it was totaled in an accident. My Sienna is nearly 9 years old, 180K miles, and runs well with only routine maintenance (plus a new radiator a few years ago).
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doppelganglander Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:09:19pm |
re: #310 faraway
Bombshell on Oprah:
Jill Biden said President-elect Barack Obama gave Biden the choice of being secretary of state or vice president.
If that's true, thank goodness he chose VP. he'll do much less damage there. He is the sole reason I wish BHO the best of health.
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songbird Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:10:08pm |
re: #355 doppelganglander
I don't know about the Solara specifically, but I've had nothing but good experiences with Toyotas. I had a Corolla with over 160K miles when it was totaled in an accident. My Sienna is nearly 9 years old, 180K miles, and runs well with only routine maintenance (plus a new radiator a few years ago).
Mr Songbird just took our 1991 Toyota Corolla station wagon with 210K miles across the country from NM to DC in two days. They guy who sold it to us said it won't stop until we crash it!
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jorline Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:10:36pm |
re: #277 faraway
Rush: fleas are taking out Al Qaeda
Irish Proverb
If you lie down with dogs you'll rise with fleas.
Wild how true these proverbs can be.
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sawblade88 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:23:26pm |
re: #42 Killgore Trout
They are also claiming the kids were shot in the head at close range. The two most likely scenarios is that 1) the doctors are full of shit or 2) Hamas is shooting kids knowing the Israelis will get the blame.
Military ammunition would not lodge in the brain, particularly at close range. Jacketed bullets do not expand enough to slow down that much.
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nyc redneck Mon, Jan 19, 2009 12:37:49pm |
this is the kind of brit who used to be common in england.
now he is a rare breed. and speaking out like this, shows his courage in the face of so much opposition from the run of the mill capitulating pc idiots.
he is an inspiration.
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So? Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:06:23pm |
Haven't watched PBS in years. Do they still show BBC World News at 6pm? If so, was this clip shown in the USA ?
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So? Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:08:14pm |
re: #357 doppelganglander
If that's true, thank goodness he chose VP. he'll do much less damage there. He is the sole reason I wish BHO the best of health.
I think Biden is competing with Bono as to who wears the coolest sunglasses.
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Archimedes Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:23:34pm |
Just goes to show you there are men in this world who care about the facts and thus care about justice, as this British Colonel does. These are the kind of Brits that used to be the norm. It's just so great to see it in our modern, corruption laced culture(s).
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Dustyvet Mon, Jan 19, 2009 1:56:02pm |
Me thinks Col. Richard Kemp, pawned the BBC big time...Outstanding!
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SillyAllah Mon, Jan 19, 2009 2:53:02pm |
Well that guy won't appear on the BBC any more
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Seax Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:00:51pm |
re #42
Standard AK projectile at close range ...
Number 2) Doctors are full of it
Standard M16 projectile at close range...
Number 2) Doctors are full of it
When it comes to terminal ballistics the MSM
has NO idea.
And yes I have seen what those rounds do.
I also had a Red Cross friend whose job was fixing up
AK wounds in Africa for years ( he had lots of practice) - in his words...
"... how in the hell does that bullet make such F#$$ing big holes...?"
Number 2) Doctors are full of it
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yochanan Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:21:47pm |
you can be sure you will never see the real military man on the BBC again.
he reminds me of the british office Wingate who helped the jewish yeshov before the founding of the state of Israel.
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hellosnackbar Mon, Jan 19, 2009 4:53:05pm |
re#222 yma o hyd,
This lad should be recommissioned in the British Army with promotion to General. We can't afford to let clear thinking officers like this molder away in civilian life .They're far too valuable.
BTW the 6 nations is once again almost upon us;with Ihope, sagacious comments from my rugby playing hero Joathan Davies.
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Old Tanker Mon, Jan 19, 2009 5:08:04pm |
I don't think the flying pig moment is the Colonel, but that BBC actually letting this guy on without telling him the script.......
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rednaxela Mon, Jan 19, 2009 8:04:34pm |
So this guy gives an account of the strict rules of engagement of the IDF and all this damned MSN woman can do is confront him with some specific incident about which no one knows any details.
He should have asked her how she knew all the facts of this particular incident but then again he was a factual army type, not confrontational.
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rw65 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:32:11pm |
re: #22 reine.de.tout
How about that line of print at the bottom?
"Israel continues offensive despite UN resolution".
I believe something more appropriate would be, "Israel continues offensive, as a result of Hamas’ continued rockets attacks on Israel despite UN resolution, which also happens to be the reason Israel entered Gaza in the first place." I guess that is a bit long and wordy though, so it would only make sense for the BBC to shorten it down to something more concise. How about, "Hamas continues to launch rockets into Israel despite UN resolution?" Still too long?
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