Bush at Welcome Home Rally
Here’s an open thread to talk about President Bush’s speech to his welcome home rally in Midland, Texas…
UPDATE at 1/20/09 5:04:02 pm:
A clip from CNN:
Here’s an open thread to talk about President Bush’s speech to his welcome home rally in Midland, Texas…
UPDATE at 1/20/09 5:04:02 pm:
A clip from CNN:
2 | trailortrash Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:43:13pm |
awesome man, glad he was there when we needed him.
5 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:45:05pm |
I wonder how many shots John McCain has downed today?
6 | 2-Drink Minimum Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:45:10pm |
Relax. Kick back and enjoy the show. You deserve it!
7 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:45:37pm |
History will be a lot kinder to Bush than it will to most of the Democrats who have reviled him.
8 | Taqyia2Me Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:46:15pm |
re: #5 Racer X
I wonder how many shots John McCain has downed today?
He's finding they're ain't enough shots to down!
9 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:46:39pm |
On my cable system, none of the networks are carrying it and Fox is pixelated and stalling. I guess I'll have to wait to hear reviews from other LGF'ers.
Pisses me off.
11 | UberInfidel67 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:47:09pm |
In honor of what has been the past 8 years, and the fear of the next four, in remembrance, I have changed my avatar.
12 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:47:18pm |
13 | rawmuse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:47:19pm |
re: #5 Racer X
I wonder how many shots John McCain has downed today?
Who is this John McCain of which you speak?
/
15 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:47:58pm |
Must be the new Fox. They have even cut him off.
17 | The Shadow Do Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:48:08pm |
This speech reminds me why I voted for him again and again. He is a good, decent and genuine man.
18 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:48:11pm |
Now that he's citizen Bush, I'd love to see him go out and pop Cindy Sheehan in the kisser if she's anywhere near his property........
22 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:48:48pm |
re: #11 UberInfidel67
In honor of what has been the past 8 years, and the fear of the next four, in remembrance, I have changed my avatar.
What's the photo of?
I have an idea it's of a woman who's just voted. Correct?
23 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:48:49pm |
re: #17 The Shadow Do
Exactly why he was so reviled by the Left.
24 | bellamags Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:49:04pm |
re: #9 Lincolntf
On my cable system, none of the networks are carrying it and Fox is pixelated and stalling. I guess I'll have to wait to hear reviews from other LGF'ers.
Pisses me off.
dude. About 2 yrs ago our cable service, FOX was pixelated for about 6 months. We were so pissed. I swore that it was a conspiracy.
25 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:49:04pm |
re: #3 rw in san diego
Bush is pretty funny.
he's a hell of a good old boy....just plain in a lot of ways
26 | karmic_inquisitor Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:49:07pm |
At this point, opinions of Bush can only go up, whereas opinions of Obama can only go down.
27 | rw in san diego Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:49:25pm |
re: #18 LGoPs
I hope we never have to see the face or hear the voice of the attention whore again.
28 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:49:35pm |
Have only lived in Texas for 12 years and have loved every day. Today for the first time I AM SO FRIGGIN PROUD TO CALL MYSELF A TEXAN. WOOHOO!
29 | mattm Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:50:06pm |
Here is a completely unbiased AP article about the trip to Texas.
The unpopular incumbent and Obama, who has ascended to rock-star status even as he faces daunting and international challenges, stood with their wives on the Capitol steps smiling and laughing. If there were any hard feelings between the incoming Democrat and outgoing Republican, they weren't apparent in the Bush send-off at the base of the helicopter. The two men hugged and clasped hands one final time, sealing the transfer of power.
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
30 | UberInfidel67 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:50:11pm |
re: #22 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Yep, an Iragi woman with an inked finger.
31 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:50:16pm |
32 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:50:17pm |
He is a first rate guy, a great C-n-C.
Now, George, about this whole spending thing...
33 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:50:25pm |
re: #28 Cathypop
Have only lived in Texas for 12 years and have loved every day. Today for the first time I AM SO FRIGGIN PROUD TO CALL MYSELF A TEXAN. WOOHOO!
Who are you, Michelle Obama?
34 | obscured by clouds Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:50:27pm |
President Bush is an amazing man. A good man. Thank you for a job well done under difficult circumstances, Mr. President. I will always have your back because you always had ours.
ot/ My alma mater, Culver Military Academy/Girls Academy, were awesome in the inaugural parade (They were horseback "The Black Horse Troop"). It gave me chills to see them march in the parade (always does!).
35 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:50:30pm |
re: #20 J.S.
Thanks, I tried them and they were showing some obese Obamist talking about how great this afternoon's talking points were.
37 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:50:36pm |
re: #26 karmic_inquisitor
At this point, opinions of Bush can only go up, whereas opinions of Obama can only go down.
I needed that. I will print this out and keep it close.
38 | Zombie_Killian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:50:45pm |
I keep getting the Texas flag and the Chilean flag confused.
/I know- blasphemy.
39 | yamster Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:51:04pm |
Pres Bush was always (and no doubt in the future as well) a man of conviction and of total class...may not always have agreed with his opinions but one never had to think twice if Pres Bush had America first in his heart...
40 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:51:12pm |
re: #28 Cathypop
Have only lived in Texas for 12 years and have loved every day. Today for the first time I AM SO FRIGGIN PROUD TO CALL MYSELF A TEXAN. WOOHOO!
What part of the state are you in?
I'm in Dallas.
41 | opnion Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:51:13pm |
Bush, the adult has left the building . He is replaced , by a pampered, petulant child whose sense of entgitlement knows no bounds.
But hey, thats just me.
42 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:51:30pm |
re: #23 Lincolntf
Exactly why he was so reviled by the Left.
Shows you how sick, bitter and twisted their hearts are.......Blackhearts.
Puts the lie to their generous, open-minded tolerance.
/
43 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:51:31pm |
re: #28 Cathypop
Have only lived in Texas for 12 years and have loved every day. Today for the first time I AM SO FRIGGIN PROUD TO CALL MYSELF A TEXAN. WOOHOO!
I was made an Honorary Citizen of the Republic of Texas down at Gruene Hall one night...I am extremely proud....
44 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:51:34pm |
45 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:51:37pm |
re: #24 bellamags
I'm trying hard to not be a conspiracy theorist, but it's digital cable and it's always only Fox that goes out. I don't get it.
46 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:51:46pm |
47 | J.S. Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:51:54pm |
re: #35 Lincolntf
Yeah. I think they only showed a snippet (not the whole speech).
48 | UberInfidel67 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:52:21pm |
re: #44 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Thank you. I change my avatars according to my moods. lol
49 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:52:35pm |
re: #11 UberInfidel67
In honor of what has been the past 8 years, and the fear of the next four, in remembrance, I have changed my avatar.
The purple finger should be GWB's and the rest of the USA's symbol for freedom and our unflinching (despite the moonbat fuckheads) willingness to share that freedom. Good avatar.
50 | DanceswithElvis Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:52:38pm |
It was pretty darn cool. I posted a link earlier to the local broadcast of this. If they have it up on 'demand' from their site, I'll post the link.
51 | Zombie_Killian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:53:06pm |
re: #36 UberInfidel67
Damn....I still could use an avatar, and that's a hard act to follow.
But then again, so are Iraqis and Afghanis taking part in open elections prior to 2003.
52 | monkeytime Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:53:31pm |
re: #40 pre-Boomer Marine brat
What part of the state are you in?
I'm in Dallas.
Fort Worth here. We should have a LGF get together for all those around here.
53 | UberInfidel67 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:53:32pm |
re: #49 Soona'
I also let it stand for those who are not American but express those same values. I am willing to share with this Iraqi woman and all those who are on our side.
54 | DanceswithElvis Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:53:54pm |
re: #50 DanceswithElvis
It was pretty darn cool. I posted a link earlier to the local broadcast of this. If they have it up on 'demand' from their site, I'll post the link.
Actually this is the link for the site that was hosting the webcast.
[Link: www.welcomehomebush.com...]
Hopefully they will have the link up for the recorded version later today.
55 | bellamags Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:53:57pm |
re: #45 Lincolntf
I'm trying hard to not be a conspiracy theorist, but it's digital cable and it's always only Fox that goes out. I don't get it.
Thats exactly what I thought. No way that this is a coincidence.
56 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:54:17pm |
re: #41 opnion
Bush, the adult has left the building . He is replaced , by a pampered, petulant child whose sense of entgitlement knows no bounds.
But hey, thats just me.
It's me too.......
57 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:54:21pm |
re: #15 faraway
Must be the new Fox. They have even cut him off.
Some of us have seen through them for years. They are not the friend of the right some think they are. At the end of the day they are as much MSM as the next network.
58 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:54:28pm |
re: #46 Cathypop
Do not put me with that thing! How dare you!
LOL.
"For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud to be an American."
How is this thing our First Lady? Unfathomable.
60 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:54:38pm |
re: #52 monkeytime
Fort Worth here. We should have a LGF get together for all those around here.
It is a thought.
62 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:54:59pm |
re: #55 bellamags
Screw it, I'm watching "Reno 911" instead.
63 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:55:18pm |
re: #57 Sharmuta
Some of us have seen through them for years. They are not the friend of the right some think they are. At the end of the day they are as much MSM as the next network.
agreed...you said it and I hope people listen to you
64 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:55:43pm |
Part of Lowry's address included the Black National Anthem?
65 | redc1c4 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:55:48pm |
did the speech start out with him saying:
"It's good to be back in Texas, where people talk normal...."?
66 | mattm Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:55:51pm |
re: #26 karmic_inquisitor
At this point, opinions of Bush can only go up, whereas opinions of Obama can only go down.
And down they will, despite the MSM best efforts to keep them up.
68 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:56:18pm |
re: #58 TheMatrix31
LOL.
"For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud to be an American."
How is this thing our First Lady? Unfathomable.
Don't mean to be crude but she may win the c name.
And on top of it all Juan Williams is on FOX drooling about the O. Got to run downstairs and turn it off. EGADS!
69 | obscured by clouds Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:56:31pm |
re: #38 Zombie_Killian
I keep getting the Texas flag and the Chilean flag confused.
I have a Chilean neighbor who flys the Chilean flag on her house. She HATES it when people ask her if she's from Texas! :)
70 | jaunte Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:56:38pm |
re: #67 Taqyia2Me
Lyle Lovett:
"...But at a dance hall down in Texas
That's the finest place to be
The women they all look beautiful
And their men will buy your beer for free
And they'll say that's right you're not from Texas
That's right you're not from Texas
That's right you're not from Texas
But Texas wants you anyway"
71 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:56:40pm |
re: #54 DanceswithElvis
Actually this is the link for the site that was hosting the webcast.
[Link: www.welcomehomebush.com...]
Hopefully they will have the link up for the recorded version later today.
Thanks for the link. Really nice to see the warm greeting he is receiving.
72 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:56:48pm |
re: #63 albusteve
fox news is a moby network. They've really become a parody of themselves.
And any network that would repeatedly give pat buchanan air time is disgusting.
Fuck 'em.
73 | kcladderman Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:56:48pm |
re: #25 albusteve
he's a hell of a good old boy....just plain in a lot of ways
Yes a good man. No doubt.
74 | LeePro Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:56:49pm |
re: #16 LeePro
: : : : : tap tap tap : : : : :
Anybody in there?
: : : tap tap : : :
IS THERE A LINKY SOMEWHERE?
Hello-o-o-o-o-o-o?
75 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:56:50pm |
My daughter just called me. She works in the belly of the beast. She was shocked to the core at the open BDS and hatred today.
76 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:56:51pm |
77 | itellu3times Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:57:01pm |
Meanwhile, Carlos Slim did put $250,000,000 into the Nuevo York Tiempos.
78 | jcm Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:57:06pm |
re: #29 mattm
Here is a completely unbiased AP article about the trip to Texas.
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
Bush is gentleman. He know what BHO is in for, and is extending every courtesy to him and his team.
79 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:57:09pm |
re: #65 redc1c4
did the speech start out with him saying:
"It's good to be back in Texas, where people talk normal...."?
he has many detractors over there...sadly the Bush family is hardly universally loved...it's the border dude...
80 | Dustyvet Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:57:15pm |
Paint Used to Deface Bush Monument in Houston
[Link: www.myfoxhouston.com...]
81 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:58:03pm |
84 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:58:25pm |
re: #76 Cathypop
Me to! MeTo!
Did you see my question up-thread?
Are you in DFW too?
/hell, you probably told me some time back ... senior moment, if so
85 | The Shadow Do Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:58:29pm |
Anyone else ready for Jeb Bush for President? I know I am.
86 | Taqyia2Me Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:58:45pm |
87 | vagabond trader Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:58:46pm |
re: #15 faraway
Saw that as well.They cut to the new CIC and the First Scowler entering the White House.
88 | experiencedtraveller Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:58:50pm |
Thanks GWB for taking the fight to the enemy.
89 | jaunte Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:58:54pm |
re: #80 Dustyvet
Once the behavioral barriers have dropped to allow that kind of acting out, it won't stop just because the current focus is retiring from office.
91 | UberInfidel67 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:59:19pm |
re: #51 Zombie_Killian
Blue your nic and I can send you some suggestions. I gotta million of 'em!
92 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 3:59:23pm |
re: #72 Sharmuta
fox news is a moby network. They've really become a parody of themselves.
And any network that would repeatedly give pat buchanan air time is disgusting.
Fuck 'em.
whew...exactly right...I cant believe youre saying that...Fox has their viewers and they will go with the flow...they stand for ratings, period
93 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:00:09pm |
One hundred thousand Jihadis breathed a sigh of relief today.
95 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:00:29pm |
re: #75 faraway
My daughter just called me. She works in the belly of the beast. She was shocked to the core at the open BDS and hatred today.
Well, try as they may to keep the blame on him, from this point on they own this puppy and we all need to remind them of that, every f*cking day....
96 | The Shadow Do Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:00:34pm |
re: #90 buzzsawmonkey
Ask me after four years of nebbush.
If that is a crack on nebbish, then I am - LOL
97 | jcm Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:00:43pm |
Obama's supporters at the inaugural jeered the departing President Bush.
These same people demand, on pain of being called racist, that I support, respect, and honor President Obama.
98 | rawmuse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:00:47pm |
re: #77 itellu3times
Meanwhile, Carlos Slim did put $250,000,000 into the Nuevo York Tiempos.
25 Billion$ as in, with a "B" ?
99 | Taqyia2Me Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:00:52pm |
re: #89 jaunte
Once the behavioral barriers have dropped to allow that kind of acting out, it won't stop just because the current focus is retiring from office.
They ain't never gonna grow up and therefore, ever going to accept reponsibility.
101 | experiencedtraveller Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:01:10pm |
re: #77 itellu3times
Meanwhile, Carlos Slim did put $250,000,000 into the Nuevo York Tiempos.
Slim's first business mistake...
102 | DanceswithElvis Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:01:15pm |
Oh! According to the webcast they are going to start replaying parts of the event, so anyone who wants to tune in, go to [Link: www.welcomehomebush.com...]
103 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:01:18pm |
re: #82 buzzsawmonkey
Share! share! share!
MSM. booing, hissing, slamming Bush, etc. at work. Can't say more. Must stay covert:)
104 | CyanSnowHawk Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:01:24pm |
105 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:01:39pm |
re: #94 buzzsawmonkey
Well, they certainly have everyone to the left of center fooled. Hating Fox is an article of faith.
maybe...so whats the net gain?...do you think ideology trumps profit?
106 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:01:50pm |
107 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:01:52pm |
re: #93 Racer X
One hundred thousand Jihadis breathed a sigh of relief today.
Not if this remark from his speech means anything...
"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
108 | CyanSnowHawk Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:02:23pm |
re: #101 experiencedtraveller
Slim's first business mistake...
He should have insisted on the Ultra Super Stock that the Family has.
109 | nyc redneck Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:02:24pm |
he is the first pres. i ever voted for.
i woke up on his watch and i was so happy to hear his strong words after 9-11.
i can't imagine looking around the post 9-11 world as a political novice w/ anyone else as commander in chief.
110 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:02:27pm |
re: #97 jcm
Obama's supporters at the inaugural jeered the departing President Bush.
These same people demand, on pain of being called racist, that I support, respect, and honor President Obama.
What is the definition of self-righteous?
/don't bother
112 | Zombie_Killian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:02:52pm |
re: #91 UberInfidel67
I was thinking perhaps something along the line of a protest babe from the Cedar Revolution or Orange Revolution, even though I'm not a babe and have nary a drop of Ukranian or Lebanese blood in me.
/Eye candy is eye candy
113 | mattm Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:03:00pm |
re: #103 faraway
MSM. booing, hissing, slamming Bush, etc. at work. Can't say more. Must stay covert:)
Hissing!? What are they spoiled children who want to be a cat? Oh wait.
114 | bulwrk Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:03:05pm |
re: #89 jaunte
Over at the huffpo and kos they believe that today's disgraceful lack of decorum was just perfectly acceptable.
115 | rawmuse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:03:10pm |
116 | The Shadow Do Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:03:13pm |
re: #97 jcm
Obama's supporters at the inaugural jeered the departing President Bush.
These same people demand, on pain of being called racist, that I support, respect, and honor President Obama.
Yep, the children have taken over the classroom. Should be an interesting four year, no?
117 | itellu3times Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:03:19pm |
And there was evening, and there was morning, the first day of the Obamanation, the Dow down 4%.
118 | Taqyia2Me Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:03:22pm |
re: #107 Walter L. Newton
Not if this remark from his speech means anything...
"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
Please be right, Walter, please!
120 | experiencedtraveller Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:04:02pm |
On the bright side, a year ago I feared Bill and Hillary would be back in the White House...
121 | mattm Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:04:06pm |
re: #107 Walter L. Newton
Not if this remark from his speech means anything...
"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
What The 0ne says vs. what The 0ne does is a crap shoot.
122 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:04:08pm |
re: #107 Walter L. Newton
Not if this remark from his speech means anything...
"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
If he close Gitmo, doesn't allow "coercive interrogation techniques, and refuses to project American power well then they don't mean anything.
123 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:04:32pm |
124 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:04:53pm |
re: #84 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Did you see my question up-thread?
Are you in DFW too?/hell, you probably told me some time back ... senior moment, if so
Outside Austin in the wonderful conservative town of Lago Vista!
125 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:04:53pm |
re: #118 Taqyia2Me
Please be right, Walter, please!
I just thought it was a very strong statement. Whether he stick to it, I hope we never have to test, but still, it's a strong statement and it's not going to make the radical Muslims happy.
126 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:04:54pm |
re: #94 buzzsawmonkey
Well, they certainly have everyone to the left of center fooled. Hating Fox is an article of faith.
My opinion of fox news is based solely on my observations of them- I could care less what the left thinks of them. They damage the right more than they help. They are a false "friend" because, as I said, at the end of the day they are still MSM.
127 | Digital Display Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:04:58pm |
128 | CyanSnowHawk Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:04:59pm |
re: #119 buzzsawmonkey
I don't quite know who you're asking that of...but it is clear that ideology trumps profit. Look at all the money-losing anti-Bush, anti-military, anti-Iraq films Hollywood churned out. They tanked, and tanked, and tanked again--yet they kept getting made.
Not a single studio blamed that on the message. They are masters of denial in Hollywood.
129 | itellu3times Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:05:05pm |
re: #106 nevergiveup
Shit, they'll burn thru that in a few months
The first one is always free/cheap.
130 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:05:19pm |
re: #107 Walter L. Newton
What I meant by that was Bush is no longer running the show. It remains to be seen whether Obama will continue to take on the radical Jihadis.
131 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:05:19pm |
re: #95 LGoPs
Well, try as they may to keep the blame on him, from this point on they own this puppy and we all need to remind them of that, every f*cking day....
I've already made a remark to a zero voter who was complaining about the economy; "From now on your going to get exactly what you voted for". I said it quietly and with a smile. By the look on her face, I think the reality has just sunk in.
133 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:05:54pm |
re: #120 experiencedtraveller
On the bright side, a year ago I feared Bill and Hillary would be back in the White House...
I'd rather deal with the known commodity.
134 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:06:03pm |
re: #122 nevergiveup
If he close Gitmo, doesn't allow "coercive interrogation techniques, and refuses to project American power well then they don't mean anything.
And to add to my pessimism:
01:49 Obama considering George Mitchell as Mideast envoy (Haaretz)
135 | kcladderman Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:06:36pm |
re: #109 nyc redneck
he is the first pres. i ever voted for.
i woke up on his watch and i was so happy to hear his strong words after 9-11.
i can't imagine looking around the post 9-11 world as a political novice w/ anyone else as commander in chief.
Imagine tuning into see the President speak after the attacksand seeing him.
Shudder
136 | DanceswithElvis Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:06:36pm |
re: #133 TheMatrix31
I'd rather deal with the known commodity.
Agreed. I can handle having common criminals in office. Just means I need to watch my valuables.
137 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:06:56pm |
If the left ever experienced a true conservative news network, they'd shit their pants.
138 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:06:58pm |
re: #119 buzzsawmonkey
I don't quite know who you're asking that of...but it is clear that ideology trumps profit. Look at all the money-losing anti-Bush, anti-military, anti-Iraq films Hollywood churned out. They tanked, and tanked, and tanked again--yet they kept getting made.
rhetorical....the left seems to have an endless supply of money to lose...but my point is that Fox will go to the viewership for profit even as it means moving left...of course I have to proof...just a pissy observation
139 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:07:10pm |
Has anyone seen LeePro around?
:D
LeePro, if you're still looking for a Bush Homecoming link, did you see this?
#102 DanceswithElvis
140 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:07:13pm |
re: #130 Racer X
What I meant by that was Bush is no longer running the show. It remains to be seen whether Obama will continue to take on the radical Jihadis.
And what I meant was that was a quote from his speech today, and it appear, at least from his words, that he intends to be tough on terrorists.
Actions will tell.
141 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:07:27pm |
re: #137 Sharmuta
If the left ever experienced a true conservative news network, they'd shit their pants.
+1000000
When will we have a conservative network?
142 | The Shadow Do Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:07:32pm |
re: #100 buzzsawmonkey
Yes, indeed it was.
LOL! Sometimes I need a translator though my wife is Jewish (sort of!).
143 | Zombie_Killian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:07:52pm |
re: #137 Sharmuta
Don't they do that anyway the second Ann Coulter walks into a room?
144 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:08:01pm |
re: #141 faraway
+1000000
When will we have a conservative network?
Give PJTV some time- they're on a great start.
145 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:08:18pm |
re: #124 Cathypop
Outside Austin in the wonderful conservative town of Lago Vista!
Ah HA!
Thanks.
(Dallas here)
146 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:08:38pm |
147 | Digital Display Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:08:54pm |
re: #120 experiencedtraveller
On the bright side, a year ago I feared Bill and Hillary would be back in the White House...
You just gave me an image.. Bill walking around the White House in his underwear with his House coat wide open..drinking a Beer and talking on a Cell at 9am on a Thursday..
Down the Hall you hear Hillary Screaming..' BILL!'
we dodged a bullet
148 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:09:02pm |
re: #137 Sharmuta
If the left ever experienced a true conservative news network, they'd shit their pants.
I haven't watched Fox cable news in over two years, just for the reasons that you and albusteve have stated. They are really no different that the rest of the media.
150 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:09:30pm |
re: #149 buzzsawmonkey
So would a lot of people ostensibly on the right.
It's funny because it's true.
151 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:09:31pm |
re: #147 HoosierHoops
You just gave me an image.. Bill walking around the White House in his underwear with his House coat wide open..drinking a Beer and talking on a Cell at 9am on a Thursday..
Down the Hall you hear Hillary Screaming..' BILL!'
we dodged a bullet
Hillarious but true!
152 | nyc redneck Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:09:34pm |
re: #135 kcladderman
Imagine tuning into see the President speak after the attacksand seeing him.
Shudder
that did cross my mind, often.
i did shudder.
and then give thanks.
153 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:09:58pm |
re: #144 Sharmuta
Give PJTV some time- they're on a great start.
I wish...maybe you're more optimistic than me...I love those guys tho
154 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:10:13pm |
Obama repudiates Bush era in address
Ceasefire over?
155 | DanceswithElvis Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:10:20pm |
Okay I'm off. I have some work to do and I need to get dinner ready. Hopefully the link I provided up thread will help (especially if they have the event up "on demand" later tonight).
Just incase you missed it, I'll spam one more time.
[Link: www.welcomehomebush.com...]
Don't smack me too hard, Charles. *hides*
156 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:10:35pm |
re: #152 nyc redneck
that did cross my mind, often.
i did shudder.
and then give thanks.
Please warn people before you do that. YUCK!
157 | obscured by clouds Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:10:45pm |
re: #97 jcm
Obama's supporters at the inaugural jeered the departing President Bush.
These same people demand, on pain of being called racist, that I support, respect, and honor President Obama.
Isn't that the damn truth! What a sad bunch of sh!theads they are.
158 | yochanan Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:10:50pm |
re: #137 Sharmuta
If the left ever experienced a true conservative news network, they'd shit their pants.
HELL even a streight non bised network
159 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:11:13pm |
re: #148 Walter L. Newton
I haven't watched Fox cable news in over two years, just for the reasons that you and albusteve have stated. They are really no different that the rest of the media.
Sorry, but whatever faults FOX has, and they have many, they are heads and shoulders batter then MSNBC, CNN, etc.
160 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:11:16pm |
The NewsBusted girl needs to be on TV somewhere.
161 | rawmuse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:11:23pm |
re: #148 Walter L. Newton
I haven't watched Fox cable news in over two years, just for the reasons that you and albusteve have stated. They are really no different that the rest of the media.
I had access to cable all last week in a condo I rented. Watched some Fox for the first time in years. I have to agree. A different brand of crazy, but still crazy. I have no idea why they put the Left in to spasms.
163 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:11:39pm |
re: #157 obscured by clouds
Isn't that the damn truth! What a sad bunch of sh!theads they are.
Uncouth pieces of doo-doo. Their mothers must be real proud.
164 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:11:47pm |
re: #148 Walter L. Newton
I haven't watched Fox cable news in over two years, just for the reasons that you and albusteve have stated. They are really no different that the rest of the media.
three years ago I got my assed kicked good for that observation....Fox hasnt changed much but peoples perceptions have...it's really all the same imo
165 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:11:56pm |
re: #153 albusteve
More and more people are turning to the internet for news. I think PJTV, being the first one to really embrace this concept of an internet news network, stands a great chance.
166 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:12:08pm |
re: #137 Sharmuta
If the left ever experienced a true conservative news network, they'd shit their pants.
Look what they do to and say about Rush.
167 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:12:29pm |
re: #159 nevergiveup
Sorry, but whatever faults FOX has, and they have many, they are heads and shoulders batter then MSNBC, CNN, etc.
But, the problem is - they really are fair and balanced.
While MSNBC, CNN and others are bashing the right, you click over to Fox and they are stupidly talking about missing white girls.
168 | monkeytime Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:12:33pm |
re: #161 rawmuse
I had access to cable all last week in a condo I rented. Watched some Fox for the first time in years. I have to agree. A different brand of crazy, but still crazy. I have no idea why they put the Left in to spasms.
Did you watch Sean Hannity? I think it is a safe bet that he will NEVER have a show of his own if FOX shuts down.
169 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:12:36pm |
170 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:12:38pm |
171 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:12:54pm |
re: #159 nevergiveup
Sorry, but whatever faults FOX has, and they have many, they are heads and shoulders batter then MSNBC, CNN, etc.
your're splitting hairs
172 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:12:58pm |
re: #148 Walter L. Newton
I haven't watched Fox cable news in over two years, just for the reasons that you and albusteve have stated. They are really no different that the rest of the media.
So why do you think they take so much shit from the libs? Listening to them and some of my co-workers you'd think it was the Hitler network.........sheesh
173 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:13:36pm |
re: #159 nevergiveup
Sorry, but whatever faults FOX has, and they have many, they are heads and shoulders batter then MSNBC, CNN, etc.
Not as far as I'm concerned. They have Buchanan on, over and over, even though they have access to all his nast anti-semite ranting and holocaust hoop-jumping. Not a channel I want to support.
174 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:13:48pm |
re: #148 Walter L. Newton
I haven't watched Fox cable news in over two years, just for the reasons that you and albusteve have stated. They are really no different that the rest of the media.
I quit watching them after listening to Shepard Smith and his Katrina abortion.
175 | Cathypop Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:14:07pm |
re: #168 monkeytime
Did you watch Sean Hannity? I think it is a safe bet that he will NEVER have a show of his own if FOX shuts down.
It's almost like they are becoming the news reality station
177 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:14:31pm |
Walter- I stopped watching fox regularly about 3 years ago. Now I don't have cable, and I don't miss them.
178 | monkeytime Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:14:33pm |
re: #172 LGoPs
So why do you think they take so much shit from the libs? Listening to them and some of my co-workers you'd think it was the Hitler network.........sheesh
Exactly, Hannity has a montage of Obama slamming him and FOX news. The proof is in the pure hate - they don't despise FOX for being exactly like CNN.
179 | kcladderman Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:14:34pm |
re: #148 Walter L. Newton
I haven't watched Fox cable news in over two years, just for the reasons that you and albusteve have stated. They are really no different that the rest of the media.
It started with Shep Smith screaming during Katrina and then it turned into the Brittney Spears network. That was it for me.
180 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:14:38pm |
Out of here for the evening.
Everyone have a great night.
The Republic has survived far worse.
We have the responsibility of helping her survive this.
/do it for America
181 | yochanan Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:14:39pm |
frankly i would be happy for a news station that just reported the news streight up, I can mke up my own mind as to politics.
182 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:14:57pm |
re: #167 faraway
But, the problem is - they really are fair and balanced.
While MSNBC, CNN and others are bashing the right, you click over to Fox and they are stupidly talking about missing white girls.
I agree, which is why during the recent Gaza incursion I did watch CNN and the BBC since at least they were covering it. I could filter their anti-Israeli hatred out.
183 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:15:33pm |
re: #165 Sharmuta
More and more people are turning to the internet for news. I think PJTV, being the first one to really embrace this concept of an internet news network, stands a great chance.
I know little of them...who's money and how far they go, and what of their dedication...what is their ambition etc...I need to learn more
184 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:15:44pm |
re: #171 albusteve
your're splitting hairs
I don't think so. CNN, MSNBC , CBS, NBC were all BDS all day long.
185 | kcladderman Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:15:57pm |
re: #181 yochanan
frankly i would be happy for a news station that just reported the news streight up, I can mke up my own mind as to politics.
Now thats just crazy talk there.
///
186 | Dustyvet Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:16:09pm |
re: #163 Cathypop
Uncouth pieces of doo-doo. Their mothers must be real proud.
Slime that slithers out from under rocks, don't have mothers...Nothing more then Moon Bat Guano...
187 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:16:22pm |
re: #173 Walter L. Newton
Not as far as I'm concerned. They have Buchanan on, over and over, even though they have access to all his nast anti-semite ranting and holocaust hoop-jumping. Not a channel I want to support.
Indeed. Then hannity lifts Prairie Fire from LGF and zombie and claims it as his own exclusive. Disgusting and dishonorable.
188 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:16:50pm |
189 | monkeytime Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:17:13pm |
re: #187 Sharmuta
Indeed. Then hannity lifts Prairie Fire from LGF and zombie and claims it as his own exclusive. Disgusting and dishonorable.
I didn't know about that. What happened?
190 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:17:23pm |
re: #173 Walter L. Newton
Not as far as I'm concerned. They have Buchanan on, over and over, even though they have access to all his nast anti-semite ranting and holocaust hoop-jumping. Not a channel I want to support.
Fine don't support them. But with all the others being 100% BDS all day all the time, just be fair about it. If you think FOX was like that, then your obviously not really watching FOX
191 | razorbacker Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:18:04pm |
re: #107 Walter L. Newton
Not if this remark from his speech means anything...
"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
"Words. Just words."
Straight from the Mouth.
192 | rawmuse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:18:28pm |
re: #168 monkeytime
Did you watch Sean Hannity? I think it is a safe bet that he will NEVER have a show of his own if FOX shuts down.
Not so much. I just watched it in the mornings, before I switched over to the "Dog Whisperer" (great show) NatGeo channel.
I am pleased to say that I watched very little tv while on vacation. I fished, golfed, swam and snorkeled and even climbed a peak on Maui, but not much tv.
Best moment of the vacation, Thursday morning we and 4 other couples kayaked out to the channel between Maui and Lanai and got so far out that you could no longer hear the island noises any more (about a mile or more) and listened to the humpback whales singing. Had some nice breeches, sightings, and some fine tail slapping too.
Oh, and whoever recommended Kimo's was right on. The ultimate cheeseburger in paradise. I think it was Island Libertarian. Thanks for your kokua.
193 | abolitionist Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:18:32pm |
At Foxnews, the video Final Farewell - Former President Bush departs Capitol was impressive in its portrayal of the transition of power, mostly without commentary. These visuals say much about us.
194 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:18:44pm |
re: #179 kcladderman
Fox is not perfect by any means, but watch their War coverage versus any other network and you'll see a HUGE difference. Plus, the Fox bubbleheads are hotter.
195 | Hobbes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:19:04pm |
re: #11 UberInfidel67
In honor of what has been the past 8 years, and the fear of the next four, in remembrance, I have changed my avatar.
Your avatar will give us strength in the 4 years. (Let's hope it's only 4 years!)
Please don't change it!
197 | experiencedtraveller Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:19:14pm |
re: #181 yochanan
frankly i would be happy for a news station that just reported the news streight up, I can mke up my own mind as to politics.
Yes. And without the darn 'personalities'. Have a pool of 10 news readers and choose them randomly to read the news. The editor and owner of the
channel should be well known and responsible for the content they publish. Like our man Charles.
198 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:19:14pm |
re: #187 Sharmuta
Indeed. Then hannity lifts Prairie Fire from LGF and zombie and claims it as his own exclusive. Disgusting and dishonorable.
That turned me off Hannity. If he had any integrity at all he would give LGF and Zombie credit, but he refuses to do so. He blatantly rips off this and other blogs. He is a punk.
Hi Sean!
199 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:19:23pm |
re: #189 monkeytime
Zombie dug up a copy of Prairie Fire, and hannity claimed it as an exclusive on the air- never gave zombie of LGF any credit. And this was well after it was posted here at LGF. Fox continually lifts stories from LGF while never giving any credit.
200 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:19:35pm |
re: #194 Lincolntf
Fox is not perfect by any means, but watch their War coverage versus any other network and you'll see a HUGE difference. Plus, the Fox bubbleheads are hotter.
Yup
201 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:20:01pm |
re: #190 nevergiveup
Fine don't support them. But with all the others being 100% BDS all day all the time, just be fair about it. If you think FOX was like that, then your obviously not really watching FOX
to know this is to admit your addiction...
202 | Hobbes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:20:29pm |
re: #195 Hobbes
Your avatar will give us strength in the 4 years. (Let's hope it's only 4 years!)
Please don't change it!
Meant NEXT 4 years. Way too much booze. Sorry!
203 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:20:41pm |
re: #199 Sharmuta
Zombie dug up a copy of Prairie Fire, and hannity claimed it as an exclusive on the air- never gave zombie of LGF any credit. And this was well after it was posted here at LGF. Fox continually lifts stories from LGF while never giving any credit.
We're all just one happy family right? :)
204 | RememberSekhmet? Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:21:01pm |
Be kind to the liberals. After all, for the first time in their lives, they are proud to be American.
205 | monkeytime Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:21:22pm |
re: #199 Sharmuta
Zombie dug up a copy of Prairie Fire, and hannity claimed it as an exclusive on the air- never gave zombie of LGF any credit. And this was well after it was posted here at LGF. Fox continually lifts stories from LGF while never giving any credit.
That sucks! I love Zombie and I remember well when he "outed" it. We are all wondering all day what his surprise was.
206 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:21:32pm |
re: #190 nevergiveup
Fine don't support them. But with all the others being 100% BDS all day all the time, just be fair about it. If you think FOX was like that, then your obviously not really watching FOX
Walter and I have openly admitted we don't watch fox.
Just because they're not as bad as the other networks doesn't mean they're any more worthy of my support or viewership.
It's like saying fatah isn't as bad as hamas, so let's support fatah. Fuck that.
207 | DEZes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:21:42pm |
re: #18 LGoPs
Now that he's citizen Bush, I'd love to see him go out and pop Cindy Sheehan in the kisser if she's anywhere near his property........
I would pay through the teeth to see that! ;)
208 | sofa Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:21:50pm |
VDH summary of Bush: [Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
excerpt:
"a corruption free, honest Bush governance (cf. the Blago/Obama nominees pre-office problems), lack of another 9/11 at home, constitutional governments in place of the Taliban and Saddam, a decimation of Al Qaeda, with negative polls in the Middle East for bin Laden and suicide bombing, no more nuclear processing in Libya, Dr. Khan shut down, Syrians out of Lebanon, pro-US governments in Europe, good relations with China and India, the Obama acceptance of the Bush anti-terror framework, crashing oil prices, an isolated Ahmadinejad and Chavez, two good Supreme Court Justices, etc.)"
...
"And abroad the world is not in such dire shape, despite what we have heard the last eight years. Iraq is stable. There is an existing strategy to deal with the Taliban. The Bush second term was multilateral to the core, and pro-American conservative governments now flourish in Europe. Chavez, Putin, and Ahmadinejad are about broke, and losing influence. India and China are friendly. Africa appreciates the massive influx of US HIV-relief. Al Qaeda is in disarray. Bin Laden’s popularity and that of suicide bombing itself have plummeted. Thousands of al Qaeda operatives were killed in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Dr. Zawahiri is shriller than ever, and more than ever neglected. The homeland has been untouched since 9/11. Gas prices have crashed, giving us a half-trillion-dollar stimulus and robbing our enemies of trillions more."
Thank you President Bush.
209 | Zombie_Killian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:21:54pm |
re: #204 RememberSekhmet?
All the more reason to tell them to fuck off.
211 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:22:49pm |
re: #201 albusteve
to know this is to admit your addiction...
I have addictions but Fox ain't one of them. And if I did, the election of what his name has broken me of it, since I have hardly watch ANY TV news for the last few days. But when I really have to watch-like when US Air decided to go swimming, I am glad for FOX.
212 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:23:09pm |
re: #190 nevergiveup
Fine don't support them. But with all the others being 100% BDS all day all the time, just be fair about it. If you think FOX was like that, then your obviously not really watching FOX
Let's see. By your logic, then, I should support VB or any of the other European nationalist groups because they are against Jihad. And I should just ignore those little white supremacy tendencies?
No, they give a free rein to Buchanan, that's enough for me.
213 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:23:12pm |
re: #176 experiencedtraveller
Give em hell, Andrew Breitbart
Great link....thanks. And the comments are great as well, like the one below from Mike in response to Hollywood's actions during the past eight years:
Mike - January 19th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
I pledge…to remember every word and every act of hatred, contempt and ridicule that you heaped on President Bush. I pledge…to remember all of the lies and half-truths you told about him in order to cripple his presidency. I pledge…to remember every effort you made to weaken our country and endanger our troops just so you could advance your political agenda. Remember, there can be no forgiveness until there is repentance.
214 | mikeymom Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:23:29pm |
re: #131 Soona'
i'm late to the thread--but--after O was elected, i was in a room of O supporters--told them-gee you'd all better get those chain thingies that bikers and others attach to their wallets--you're gonna need them--i was not popular
215 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:23:31pm |
re: #206 Sharmuta
Walter and I have openly admitted we don't watch fox.
Just because they're not as bad as the other networks doesn't mean they're any more worthy of my support or viewership.
It's like saying fatah isn't as bad as hamas, so let's support fatah. Fuck that.
That's going a tad to far.
216 | UberInfidel67 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:23:40pm |
?QUESTION? Did that bitch from ISNA, Ingrid Mattson, speak today? I have avoided all the hoopla and have no idea. If she did and anyone can find it, please link to the text of her jihadi-ette "prayer". Thank you : )
217 | razorbacker Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:23:43pm |
It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling (to go along with all my hopeychangeyawesomeness) to know that dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
I'll bet I'm the most patriotic patriot in this whole patriotic land of patriots for at least four years.
218 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:24:23pm |
re: #206 Sharmuta
Walter and I have openly admitted we don't watch fox.
Just because they're not as bad as the other networks doesn't mean they're any more worthy of my support or viewership.
It's like saying fatah isn't as bad as hamas, so let's support fatah. Fuck that.
they're not listening...it's a heavy jones and unless your interests vary rehab is theonly solution...am I too harsh?
219 | SteveC Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:24:28pm |
re: #172 LGoPs
So why do you think they take so much shit from the libs? Listening to them and some of my co-workers you'd think it was the Hitler network.........sheesh
Because the Liberal Looney Left never, ever forgive or forget if you depart from their line of thinking for a millisecond... and they will always drag it up.
Find a time machine and go 10,000 years into the future, when Fox looks and acts just like See-BS. But you'll be able to find some yahoo who will say "But recall that in the late twentieth and early twenty-first century Fox News was a conservative media outlet. Therefore everything they say or do is suspect."
220 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:24:56pm |
re: #212 Walter L. Newton
Let's see. By your logic, then, I should support VB or any of the other European nationalist groups because they are against Jihad. And I should just ignore those little white supremacy tendencies?
No, they give a free rein to Buchanan, that's enough for me.
I don't care who you support but if you think FOX is as bad as the other networks, you just have not been watching. Don't support them, but don't libel them unfairly.
221 | Dar ul Harb Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:25:05pm |
re: #119 buzzsawmonkey
I don't quite know who you're asking that of...but it is clear that ideology trumps profit. Look at all the money-losing anti-Bush, anti-military, anti-Iraq films Hollywood churned out. They tanked, and tanked, and tanked again--yet they kept getting made.
Setting up for the bailout?
222 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:25:08pm |
I watch Cavuto on Foxnews.
Pretty much avoid everything else.
223 | NomadOfNorad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:25:15pm |
I'm watching a thing on History Channel about the US Presidents. They just mentioned that Abraham Lincoln, bitterly angry about a major pro-slavery law just passed, started a new political party specifically to fight slavery. It was, of course, the Republican party.
I laughed out loud when I heard that! Funny how the Donks keep calling the Republicans a party of racists, almost even implying that the Repubs supported slavery... :-%P%
224 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:25:16pm |
re: #211 nevergiveup
I have addictions but Fox ain't one of them. And if I did, the election of what his name has broken me of it, since I have hardly watch ANY TV news for the last few days. But when I really have to watch-like when US Air decided to go swimming, I am glad for FOX.
good for you...
225 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:25:20pm |
re: #215 nevergiveup
That's going a tad to far.
Well, that's what some here are saying. It's ok that they have Buchanan on, as long as they have good war coverage, or hot news babes. Is that how you judge a news show, by babes?
226 | Hobbes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:25:21pm |
re: #97 jcm
Obama's supporters at the inaugural jeered the departing President Bush.
These same people demand, on pain of being called racist, that I support, respect, and honor President Obama.
As I said in an earlier thread, Liberals do NOT know how to win with grace.
227 | Zombie_Killian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:25:50pm |
re: #217 razorbacker
I think the shelf life for dissent being patriotic expired at noon eastern time today.
228 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:25:51pm |
re: #215 nevergiveup
That's going a tad to far.
No- it's not. Just because they're "not as bad" doesn't make them good.
229 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:26:08pm |
re: #212 Walter L. Newton
Extending Godwin's Law through Fox, via a non-connection to VB, and then circling back to Buchanan, eh?
Oh boy, you're a real keeper.
230 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:26:11pm |
re: #226 Hobbes
As I said in an earlier thread, Liberals do NOT know how to win with grace.
I like pie
231 | Mauser Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:26:18pm |
re: #107 Walter L. Newton
"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."
I kinda take this to mean that Obama thinks the Terrorists can't kill us all, so we'll win by letting themselves blow themselves (and us) up. Defeat doesn't mean that we'll fight them, just outlast them. Sounds like a very long and costly process.
232 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:26:27pm |
re: #222 Racer X
I think Neil is the last decent thing about Fox.
234 | Dar ul Harb Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:27:00pm |
re: #134 nevergiveup
And to add to my pessimism:
01:49 Obama considering George Mitchell as Mideast envoy (Haaretz)
Whew, for a second there I thought you wrote "George Michael".
235 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:27:29pm |
re: #220 nevergiveup
I don't care who you support but if you think FOX is as bad as the other networks, you just have not been watching. Don't support them, but don't libel them unfairly.
And because they have hot news babes is your reason to watch?
I never said they are as bad as the others, I said I won't watch them either. It's not about levels of bad. Buchanan seems to have open access to the network, that's does it for me.
236 | SteveC Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:27:39pm |
re: #194 Lincolntf
Fox is not perfect by any means, but watch their War coverage versus any other network and you'll see a HUGE difference. Plus, the Fox bubbleheads are hotter.
She's *not* a Fox regular and is NOT a bubblehead, but did you see Laura Ingraham in those leather boots about 7:15 AM Eastern time this morning?
All that and brains, too? Thank God for Conservative women!
237 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:27:40pm |
Let us all know when the "perfect" news channel, or for that matter the perfect politician is found.
Aint no such thing.
238 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:27:56pm |
re: #225 Walter L. Newton
Well, that's what some here are saying. It's ok that they have Buchanan on, as long as they have good war coverage, or hot news babes. Is that how you judge a news show, by babes?
Buchanan is hardly on and in General FOX stands strongly behind the State of Israel. As for the hot babes, well lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.
239 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:27:56pm |
re: #107 Walter L. Newton
Not if this remark from his speech means anything...
"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
Some how I think that may be lipservice to show the middle of the road crowd he has something resembling nads....Let us see what he says if we get hit with a WMD or NK decides to "step across the line" then we will see what whether he has a set or is gonna hafta borrow Biden's
240 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:28:35pm |
re: #236 SteveC
I missed her this morning, but she is definitely a fine looking woman-of-a-certain-age.
241 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:29:04pm |
re: #204 RememberSekhmet?
Be kind to the liberals. After all, for the first time in their lives, they are proud to be American.
No! I'm not going to wink at their anti-Americanism anymore. They're not proud to be part of the USA. Right now, they're salivating at the thought of tearing this nation apart. They think they've elected the right man for that job.
242 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:29:40pm |
re: #231 Mauser
I kinda take this to mean that Obama thinks the Terrorists can't kill us all, so we'll win by letting themselves blow themselves (and us) up. Defeat doesn't mean that we'll fight them, just outlast them. Sounds like a very long and costly process.
He says "We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense..."
What does "defense" mean to you? Talk about circular logic.
243 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:29:40pm |
re: #208 sofa
VDH summary of Bush: [Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
excerpt:
"a corruption free, honest Bush governance (cf. the Blago/Obama nominees pre-office problems), lack of another 9/11 at home, constitutional governments in place of the Taliban and Saddam, a decimation of Al Qaeda, with negative polls in the Middle East for bin Laden and suicide bombing, no more nuclear processing in Libya, Dr. Khan shut down, Syrians out of Lebanon, pro-US governments in Europe, good relations with China and India, the Obama acceptance of the Bush anti-terror framework, crashing oil prices, an isolated Ahmadinejad and Chavez, two good Supreme Court Justices, etc.)"
...
"And abroad the world is not in such dire shape, despite what we have heard the last eight years. Iraq is stable. There is an existing strategy to deal with the Taliban. The Bush second term was multilateral to the core, and pro-American conservative governments now flourish in Europe. Chavez, Putin, and Ahmadinejad are about broke, and losing influence. India and China are friendly. Africa appreciates the massive influx of US HIV-relief. Al Qaeda is in disarray. Bin Laden’s popularity and that of suicide bombing itself have plummeted. Thousands of al Qaeda operatives were killed in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Dr. Zawahiri is shriller than ever, and more than ever neglected. The homeland has been untouched since 9/11. Gas prices have crashed, giving us a half-trillion-dollar stimulus and robbing our enemies of trillions more."Thank you President Bush.
Yeah, but besides all that, just what has Bush done for us..........
////*Python-ish moonbat rant*
244 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:30:03pm |
re: #238 nevergiveup
Buchanan is hardly on and in General FOX stands strongly behind the State of Israel. As for the hot babes, well lets not throw the baby out with the bath water.
hahaha....that says it all!
245 | itellu3times Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:30:19pm |
re: #107 Walter L. Newton
"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."
Come what may that was a good line, and I would have liked to hear it from Dubya anytime over the last seven years.
246 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:30:19pm |
re: #120 experiencedtraveller
On the bright side, a year ago I feared Bill and Hillary would be back in the White House...
Uhmm.....Ok I will look at that as an upside, but doesn't she now figure into the chain of command somwhere now, if everyone dies above her? #7 I think if memory serves....
247 | Beller0ph1 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:30:40pm |
Welcome home! Enjoy life without the weight of the entire free (and not so free) world off your shoulders. We thank you for your service, and for keeping us safe all these years. You will be remembered for that, and not for what the libs said you were. Although I didn't agree with everything you did, you still served our great nation well. Welcome home, Citizen Bush!
248 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:31:10pm |
re: #239 Marvo76
Some how I think that may be lipservice to show the middle of the road crowd he has something resembling nads....Let us see what he says if we get hit with a WMD or NK decides to "step across the line" then we will see what whether he has a set or is gonna hafta borrow Biden's
I said it above, a number of times, hopefully he will NOT have to be tested, but if he is, than his actions will speak louder than those words.
But the words are a good start. It certainly won't set well with the radical Muslims across the globe, and that's fine by me.
249 | Mauser Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:31:16pm |
re: #223 NomadOfNorad
I laughed out loud when I heard that! Funny how the Donks keep calling the Republicans a party of racists, almost even implying that the Repubs supported slavery... :-%P%
Oh, they excuse that now by saying that the party changed. They just can't cite any real examples.
250 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:31:42pm |
re: #225 Walter L. Newton
Well, that's what some here are saying. It's ok that they have Buchanan on, as long as they have good war coverage, or hot news babes. Is that how you judge a news show, by babes?
Sometimes.
/looking down guiltily
251 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:31:50pm |
re: #124 Cathypop
Outside Austin in the wonderful conservative town of Lago Vista!
I did some landscaping work back in the mid 80's in Lago vista, I used to live in outh Austin, between William cannon and Stasney lane exits...
252 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:32:17pm |
re: #245 itellu3times
Come what may that was a good line, and I would have liked to hear it from Dubya anytime over the last seven years.
I was going to say the exact same thing, but I thought that would really chap some skins. I wish McCain would have said something like that.
253 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:33:02pm |
re: #239 Marvo76
Some how I think that may be lipservice to show the middle of the road crowd he has something resembling nads....Let us see what he says if we get hit with a WMD or NK decides to "step across the line" then we will see what whether he has a set or is gonna hafta borrow Biden's
Biden has balls?
254 | RedDish Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:33:21pm |
Forgive if this has already been posted (probably has, the Lizard Army is all knowing...) but this at the website of the One is just too much...
From politico:
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Save it before the memory hole eats it. Might come in handy during the next natural disaster.
255 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:34:41pm |
re: #241 Soona'
No! I'm not going to wink at their anti-Americanism anymore. They're not proud to be part of the USA. Right now, they're salivating at the thought of tearing this nation apart. They think they've elected the right man for that job.
I do not believe that for a second. The majority of Democrats are patriotic and want America to succeed. They have been lied to on exactly how to make that happen.
If Obama can make them get on board with patriotism then more power to him. When these Democrats discover Obama has lied to them they will flip over to the right side.
Remember how we were all so happy to accept the PUMAs? Get ready for more of that. Keep an open heart for disenchanted Democrats.
256 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:35:00pm |
UN wants all Gaza borders opened
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Fine. Move the UN lock, stock, and barrel to Sderot and then we'll talk.
257 | doppelganglander Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:35:12pm |
258 | Mauser Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:35:34pm |
re: #242 Walter L. Newton
He says "We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense..."
What does "defense" mean to you? Talk about circular logic.
What does it mean to ME, or Obama? I'm pretty confident that they are at odds.
259 | rightymouse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:35:38pm |
Network news? I don't watch any channel, incuding Fox. Who wants to go to bed annoyed?
260 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:35:50pm |
re: #255 Racer X
I do not believe that for a second. The majority of Democrats are patriotic and want America to succeed. They have been lied to on exactly how to make that happen.
If Obama can make them get on board with patriotism then more power to him. When these Democrats discover Obama has lied to them they will flip over to the right side.
Remember how we were all so happy to accept the PUMAs? Get ready for more of that. Keep an open heart for disenchanted Democrats.
While I agree....the PUMAs ended up doing jack shit in the election, didn't they?
261 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:35:51pm |
263 | NomadOfNorad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:36:22pm |
re: #249 Mauser
Oh, they excuse that now by saying that the party changed. They just can't cite any real examples.
They're talking about Lincoln's Presidency now on History Channel.
264 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:37:02pm |
re: #254 RedDish
The government would do the citizens of the US a huge favor by publically admitting that they cannot immediately feed, clothe, and house every person in a major natural disaster. Not even using fairy dust and unicron wishes.
You should have 3 days worth of food, clothing, and water. Fuel if you can, too. It may take that long for any assistance to reach you.
265 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:37:21pm |
re: #198 Racer X
That turned me off Hannity. If he had any integrity at all he would give LGF and Zombie credit, but he refuses to do so. He blatantly rips off this and other blogs. He is a punk.
Hi Sean!
I would say he can kiss my ass, but he might enjoy that. ;p
266 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:37:25pm |
re: #257 doppelganglander
I miss Brit Hume.
I dunno. Brit was on a lot today, singing the One's praises. He even liked that boring, meandering, imminently forgettable speech.
267 | Hobbes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:37:34pm |
re: #94 buzzsawmonkey
Well, they certainly have everyone to the left of center fooled. Hating Fox is an article of faith.
That's only because Fox is the only station that barely shows another view point. All the other stations are liberal ALL the time. Face it, if you're not with them from day to night, then you're the enemy. Sort of a variation on President Bush's comment on terrorism.
268 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:37:38pm |
270 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:37:49pm |
271 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:37:56pm |
Gazans boycott Israeli clinic.
All righty then.
272 | Mauser Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:38:05pm |
273 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:38:15pm |
re: #260 TheMatrix31
While I agree....the PUMAs ended up doing jack shit in the election, didn't they?
I dunno. Did they? Hard to say. Would it have been more of a bloody massacre for McCain without them? Probably.
I'll say it again. Reagan would have LOST to Obama.
274 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:38:35pm |
275 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:38:45pm |
re: #264 EmmmieG
The government would do the citizens of the US a huge favor by publically admitting that they cannot immediately feed, clothe, and house every person in a major natural disaster. Not even using fairy dust and unicron wishes.
You should have 3 days worth of food, clothing, and water. Fuel if you can, too. It may take that long for any assistance to reach you.
But. But. Obama's the president now.
/
276 | Hobbes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:39:26pm |
277 | Timbre Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:39:29pm |
Just got home from the rally. Air Force One (Two?) flying over the rally site low and slow was awesome. And President Bush was energized and in top form! I'm glad I went.
278 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:40:35pm |
re: #219 SteveC
Because the Liberal Looney Left never, ever forgive or forget if you depart from their line of thinking for a millisecond... and they will always drag it up.
Find a time machine and go 10,000 years into the future, when Fox looks and acts just like See-BS. But you'll be able to find some yahoo who will say "But recall that in the late twentieth and early twenty-first century Fox News was a conservative media outlet. Therefore everything they say or do is suspect."
I agree with that. They are positively single minded in their hatred. And they never forget.
Truly hateful bastards and totally opposite their chosen guise of tolerance and open-mindedness. I know this is a rhetorical question but how is it that their fucking heads don't explode from all the incongruity and hypocrisy.........the world wonders.
279 | nevergiveup Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:40:36pm |
re: #277 Timbre
Just got home from the rally. Air Force One (Two?) flying over the rally site low and slow was awesome. And President Bush was energized and in top form! I'm glad I went.
I hope he was showered with love and appreciation.
280 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:41:24pm |
Hey all.
What a bizarre day. What's happening in here?
Oh, and President Bush? You did good.
281 | 3 wood Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:42:04pm |
Good evening.
I've had some time to take a close look at what happened in the market today.
The market repudiated Obama and his big spending plans today.
In addition, it was a total wipe out of the financial sector.
Bank of America, Citigroup, State Street bank stock is toast. Their stock value is near zero.
The Market basically told Obama that they do not think he has any answers that will work. His far left stuff about nationalized healthcare and going after the prosperous fell flat.
Obama may have trouble getting votes for his big spending plans. The Republicans should serve notice right now that they will vote no and the Dem's will have to pass it all themselves.
It's going to be ugly for quite a while.
284 | realwest Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:42:18pm |
Good evening y'all. I've scanned some of the comments here and at the prior thread and while - if I had the time now - I would ordinarily, ah, disagree with some of the sentiments expressed, I can and will say that history will treat George W. Bush and his wife
far, far better than it will most of those who were so unbelievably visicous towards him while he was POTUS.
I know that he helped give freedom to some 50 million people in the Middle East; that although it wasn't as much as many of us out here would have liked, he DID try to help - and indeed did help Israel, and I was truly grateful for his being our President from the purely narrow and selfish view that he kept me and mine safe after 9/11/01.
And while I can't spend very much longer out here now, can anyone kindly direct me to a transcript of his speech today at his welcome home rally in Texas?
285 | Typicalwhitey Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:42:24pm |
re: #263 NomadOfNorad
They're talking about Lincoln's Presidency now on History Channel.
One thing that bothers me about all this Lincoln stuff.
The Emancipation Proclamation dealt only with the Confederacy.
It did NOT outlaw slavery in the northern states.
Not until after the war was slavery outlawed in the Union.
He did it to break the back of the south and to win the war.
Here is the quote
"That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; and the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons, and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom
286 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:42:59pm |
I think they called it special flight and his home address from what I heard on the radio this morning, Airforce one is reserved for the "Da pres" only. Even though it is probably the same plane. I just wonder what it would be like to be in that pressure cooker for 8 years and come home suddenly to peace and quiet? I think something like relief would be my take on it....
287 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:43:13pm |
re: #277 Timbre
Just got home from the rally. Air Force One (Two?) flying over the rally site low and slow was awesome. And President Bush was energized and in top form! I'm glad I went.
Presidential chopper pilot: "Good morning, sir. How are you today".
President Bush: "Fine. Now let's get the fuck out of here and quick".
288 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:43:18pm |
289 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:43:30pm |
re: #264 EmmmieG
The government would do the citizens a favor by pointing out the majority of the burden falls upon the state in these situations. Perhaps that would help them make better choices when voting for mayors and governors. Or not.
290 | SteveC Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:43:30pm |
re: #278 LGoPs
I know this is a rhetorical question but how is it that their fucking heads don't explode from all the incongruity and hypocrisy.........the world wonders.
Dope. Really, really, really good dope!
291 | rawmuse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:43:33pm |
re: #281 3 wood
Dude, are you like, tryin' to harsh our mellow?
292 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:43:45pm |
Terrorists testing Israel: Mortar shells launched from central Gaza, land in Palestinian areas
lol
293 | tradewind Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:44:34pm |
God bless George Bush..... he screwed up sometimes, as all men will, but dammit, he saw what had to be done after the evildoers attacked us on Sept 11, and he said not anymore while I'm in charge. And he kept his word, and let himself be unpopular and maligned for doing what had to be done.
Probably not so easy for a guy who has a ton of friends and likes to get along with others.
Obama seems to be more of a loner, so it should be easier for him to make the unpopular but necessary security choices for the US. Why am I not assured in my gut that he will.......?
Sure hope he grows into this job in a hurry, and I wish him well. He did look pretty presidential in the parade, I have to admit.
(But Michelle... no more chartreuse.
Seriously) .
294 | Kreuzueber Halbmond Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:44:53pm |
Welcome home, George! May not have agreed with him on everything, but he kept the country safe and stuck with his convictions, and I respect him for that. The libtards won't have him and Dick Cheney to kick around anymore. It's all on them now.
295 | experiencedtraveller Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:45:57pm |
re: #265 Sharmuta
I would say he can kiss my ass, but he might enjoy that. ;p
Where's the line form? ;)
296 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:45:59pm |
re: #292 Killgore Trout
When does the IDF get blamed for the causalities?
297 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:46:23pm |
298 | doppelganglander Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:46:27pm |
re: #249 Mauser
Oh, they excuse that now by saying that the party changed. They just can't cite any real examples.
They claim that all the racist old Dixiecrats fled for the GOP shortly after the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Never mind that a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted for it in the House and Senate (Republicans at the time being a minority, of course).
I am not a historian, but it seems to me that the Democrats moved so far left that Southern voters vastly preferred Nixon. Southerners have always been more conservative, regardless of party identification. Elected officials in the South remained Democrats and their constituents kept voting them in, as long as they were seen as distinct from the national Democratic Party.
Republicans did not make great strides in capturing state legislatures or Southern governors' mansions until the 1980s (the dreaded Reagan years). That was a generation later and you can hardly hold today's Southern Republicans responsible for the actions of Democrats 40 years ago, but they sure try.
300 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:47:16pm |
301 | 3 wood Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:47:16pm |
re: #291 rawmuse
Dude, are you like, tryin' to harsh our mellow?
The Messiah can't vote "present" anymore.
His left wing talk now has serious consequences. The market showed that today.
302 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:47:28pm |
re: #292 Killgore Trout
Darn those Israelis making Hamas fire mortars at them only to have them fail so they look stupid. Now Hamas will be forced to try, try again until their rockets and mortars reach Israel to save face. If the Israelis didn't act this way, we would have peace.
//oh gosh, it rubbed off on me! HELP!
303 | tradewind Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:47:41pm |
re: #291 rawmuse
Hey! Impossible. The yellow will be our mellow. It's been proclaimed. Now if only the brown can stick around, and the black won't be attacked, and dammit, if those evil whites will just freakin' do right.
Doo wop-a-doo what-a bam slam dang.
305 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:48:04pm |
re: #293 tradewind
that coat was hideous, wasn't it? I was trying not to be snarky, but wow.
306 | 3 wood Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:48:15pm |
re: #284 realwest
Hey real, my good friend, how are you doing in the snow there?
Is your Mom doing OK? You got enough to eat?
307 | Hobbes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:48:15pm |
re: #268 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Now, he was a good one.
I loved Tony. May he be enjoying all this from a wonderful place. He was a true conservative that loved our country. Why do the good always die young?
308 | SteveC Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:48:24pm |
re: #286 Marvo76
I think they called it special flight and his home address from what I heard on the radio this morning, Airforce one is reserved for the "Da pres" only.
It's not even close to the same situation, but Nixon was prez when he left Washington. When Ford took the oath they radioed the plane, and the call sign changed from "Air Force One" to "26000" (The tail number of the plane).
And didn't AF1 pilots use the call sign "Eagle Heavy" when they slipped into Iraq for Thanksgiving?
310 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:48:49pm |
re: #300 Racer X
Of course. Only the Israelis have to observe ceasefires. The UN says so.
311 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:48:51pm |
re: #300 Racer X
Haha!
But the ceasefire is still holding right?
I thought it was over. Who will tell us when to fight?
312 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:48:53pm |
re: #300 Racer X
Haha! But the ceasefire is still holding right?
Is it still a ceasefire if you are bombing your own territory?
313 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:49:09pm |
re: #305 ArmyWife
that coat was hideous, wasn't it? I was trying not to be snarky, but wow.
I didn't hate it. But I do have a new nickname that I will use for her.
"Michelle Long-Jackets"
315 | LGoPs Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:49:49pm |
316 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:49:53pm |
317 | tradewind Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:49:55pm |
re: #309 ploome hineni
Not my ideas. Just reporting the most electrifying oratory to come out of today's speechifying.
318 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:50:19pm |
I was a good boy today and worked on my rental, did Obama do the Blazing saddles intro complete with a "scuse me while I whip this out?"
319 | SteveC Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:50:39pm |
re: #303 tradewind
Hey! Impossible. The yellow will be our mellow. It's been proclaimed. Now if only the brown can stick around, and the black won't be attacked, and dammit, if those evil whites will just freakin' do right.
Doo wop-a-doo what-a bam slam dang.
Michelle Malkin said that "This beige is outraged!" :)
320 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:50:50pm |
Interesting.
I tried to look up "Gaza" on Google Earth. Nada.
I typed in "Gaza, Israel". Bingo.
321 | experiencedtraveller Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:51:17pm |
re: #281 3 wood
All about valuations now. Market will hold 8200ish or look out below to 6500. I know you think we are heading that way and you may be right.
Hell of a time to try and start shorting...
323 | realwest Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:51:26pm |
Is there a transcript of President Bush's welcome home speech today anywhere?
324 | Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:51:40pm |
re: #301 3 wood
The Messiah can't vote "present" anymore.
His left wing talk now has serious consequences. The market showed that today.
Funny. I am reading 'Atlas Shrugged'. All the leftists goal of the book is to not take responsibility. I see a lot of 'present' written in there.
325 | yamster Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:51:50pm |
Keith Overbite was on a idiotic rant again today about Bush...prosecuting Bush will be his mantra now for years...
326 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:51:50pm |
re: #313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It actually looked better on the video, so maybe that was the part of the decision making process, what looks good on TV. She was trying to not to cry, but it made her look all scowly. Maybe she will get better in time. They have coaches for these things, right?
327 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:52:07pm |
re: #308 SteveC
It's not even close to the same situation, but Nixon was prez when he left Washington. When Ford took the oath they radioed the plane, and the call sign changed from "Air Force One" to "26000" (The tail number of the plane).
And didn't AF1 pilots use the call sign "Eagle Heavy" when they slipped into Iraq for Thanksgiving?
True I had forgotten that, but the heavy designation refers to the plane weight for Info on following inbound flights due to wake turbulence. (see, I did learn a thing or two being a Navy air traffic controller LOL)
328 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:52:24pm |
re: #314 buzzsawmonkey
You caught on to the nuance! Good on you!
329 | NomadOfNorad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:52:26pm |
re: #285 Typicalwhitey
One thing that bothers me about all this Lincoln stuff.The Emancipation Proclamation dealt only with the Confederacy.
It did NOT outlaw slavery in the northern states.
Not until after the war was slavery outlawed in the Union.He did it to break the back of the south and to win the war.
Here is the quote
Just how many slave-owning states did they have in the North, though, anyway? Come to that, how many slave-owners did they have in the North?
Slavery was mostly in the South, was it not?
330 | 3 wood Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:52:55pm |
Here we go, Bob Shrum and Robert Reich on Larry Kudlow's show are pounding Bush for the markets today.
Yes we can.
331 | Wishing Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:53:16pm |
re: #271 Alouette
Gazans boycott Israeli clinic.
All righty then.
Wait: where are all the hundreds of injured civilians?
332 | Timbre Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:53:22pm |
333 | Zombie_Killian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:53:55pm |
re: #330 3 wood
How about the markets between Election Day and now?
334 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:53:55pm |
re: #327 Marvo76
True I had forgotten that, but the heavy designation refers to the plane weight for Info on following inbound flights due to wake turbulence. (see, I did learn a thing or two being a Navy air traffic controller LOL)
It can also be used by Cessna 150 pilots if the ATC controllers are having a light day and can appreciate a joke.
335 | RememberSekhmet? Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:53:56pm |
I think people are taking my comment the wrong way. It was meant to be a swipe at Madame Obama's remarks earlier last year
336 | Racer X Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:53:57pm |
Well, my rainbow colored unicorn just arrived. I'm naming him "Hopey".
I'm out.
337 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:54:03pm |
re: #329 NomadOfNorad
By the time of the 1790 census, 94 percent of the 698,000 U.S. slaves lived below the Mason-Dixon Line. They concentrated in the tobacco-growing region in the Chesapeake basin and in the rice-growing along the coast of Georgia and South Carolina. Having solved its slavery problem by a very gradual emancipation, and by aggressively proscribing the rights of its free black minority, the North was content. Its ships continued to carry slaves to Southern ports, and slave-grown cotton to Europe. The North reaped the profits of the Southern plantations, and the federal government collected the tariffs. Any further effort made in the North toward resolving the slavery issue generally went into the pipe-dream of colonization and to making sure Southern blacks stayed there, or at least did not come north.
338 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:54:15pm |
re: #312 Walter L. Newton
Is it still a ceasefire if you are bombing your own territory?
good question!....I've been for an Israeli takeover of Gaza all along
339 | Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:54:30pm |
re: #330 3 wood
Here we go, Bob Shrum and Robert Reich on Larry Kudlow's show are pounding Bush for the markets today.
Yes we can.
I am guessing the answer is '4' years or '8' if Obama wins reelection, but how long will they be able to blame Bush for the market before it finally becomes Obama's responsibility?
340 | rawmuse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:54:36pm |
re: #330 3 wood
Here we go, Bob Shrum and Robert Reich on Larry Kudlow's show are pounding Bush for the markets today.
Yes we can.
They'll have about a week left of that tactic, tops.
341 | Hobbes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:54:57pm |
342 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:55:07pm |
re: #324 Oh no...Sand People!
Funny. I am reading 'Atlas Shrugged'. All the leftists goal of the book is to not take responsibility. I see a lot of 'present' written in there.
Good book I reread it every couple of years, and you know what? It still applies every time I read, more and more except for the trains...and I would bet that will be coming soon to hit our "carbon goals"
343 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:55:20pm |
One last thing about fox news. They're not really fair and balanced. If they were, there would be more news studs. Why should the women viewers not get to objectify the anchors too?
Not fair, not balanced.
344 | tradewind Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:55:31pm |
re: #305 ArmyWife
/Snark alert. Real Men may wanna skip/.
She doesn't know how to wear her suits/ coats/ dresses... she screws up designer outfits by adding cardigans and slapping them together with pins (jeweled ones at that). Sometimes looks as if Malia went to work on her with a Bedazzler.
I have seen her look really nice at times, but she needs someone to help her, and I read that she thinks she does a great job and has awesome style sense. But the proportion was all wrong today, made her look twice as big as BHO, and it just was not her color, which should have been obvious.
JMO.....not an expert, but she needs to consult with one. If she wants to go for Jackie redux, fine, but don't screw it up.
345 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:56:18pm |
re: #343 Sharmuta
One last thing about fox news. They're not really fair and balanced. If they were, there would be more news studs. Why should the women viewers not get to objectify the anchors too?
Not fair, not balanced.
Skeletor
346 | tradewind Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:56:20pm |
re: #322 ploome hineni
Today we learned that the boombox is a musical instrument.
Who knew?
347 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:56:32pm |
re: #334 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
It can also be used by Cessna 150 pilots if the ATC controllers are having a light day and can appreciate a joke.
LMAO, yep or if you get a new A/C on duty and tell him the rest of the C-5 doesn't fit on the radar...
348 | Hobbes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:56:35pm |
re: #330 3 wood
Here we go, Bob Shrum and Robert Reich on Larry Kudlow's show are pounding Bush for the markets today.
Yes we can.
Why Bush?
349 | razorbacker Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:56:44pm |
The United States is the mostest awesome, of course, because we have the Obamanation.
Canada is next to awesome, 'cause they are closest to Washington, D.C., where the Obamanation awesomes.
Mexico is semiawesome, but they're farther away from Washington, D.C., where the Obamanation awesomes.
The worst country in the Western Hemisphere is poor Argentina, being so very far from Washington, D.C., where the Obamanation awesomes.
You can calculate your country's goodness quotient by calculating the distance from the awesomeness that is Obama.
350 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:56:44pm |
re: #343 Sharmuta
I could be an Fox anchor and be your "eye candy". A veritable [finger] cornucopia of muffintopped gorgeousness.
351 | albusteve Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:56:59pm |
re: #343 Sharmuta
One last thing about fox news. They're not really fair and balanced. If they were, there would be more news studs. Why should the women viewers not get to objectify the anchors too?
Not fair, not balanced.
because men rule the remote....you knew that
353 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:57:17pm |
re: #343 Sharmuta
One last thing about fox news. They're not really fair and balanced. If they were, there would be more news studs. Why should the women viewers not get to objectify the anchors too?
Not fair, not balanced.
Hey.. you got Shep Smith, Jon Scott, and Bill Hemmer. I'm no judge of guys, but they did throw you a few bones, no?
354 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:57:18pm |
re: #329 NomadOfNorad
Nope. Well, let me take that back. The south had more slaves in volume, but there were plenty of slave owners in the north. The South was agrarian, they had more numbers to work the land.
355 | Killgore Trout Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:57:21pm |
Hot Air Headlines....
My “To Don’t” List for the Right
The only thing worse than bad winners are sore losers, and we’ve had enough of them for the past eight years. So with that in mind, in the wake of today’s historic inauguration, here’s my Handbook For The Loyal Opposition, 2009 edition - a “To Don’t List,” if you will.
356 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:57:29pm |
re: #256 nevergiveup
UN wants all Gaza borders opened
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Fine. Move the UN lock, stock, and barrel to Sderot and then we'll talk.
Thar ya' went and spoiled my hopennchangin.
357 | Timbre Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:57:52pm |
re: #348 Hobbes
If there's an earthquake in Antarctica 5 years from now, the LEFT will find a way to blame President Bush.
359 | doppelganglander Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:58:07pm |
re: #343 Sharmuta
One last thing about fox news. They're not really fair and balanced. If they were, there would be more news studs. Why should the women viewers not get to objectify the anchors too?
Not fair, not balanced.
Shep is pretty cute until he opens his mouth.
360 | gregg Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:58:10pm |
re: #330 3 wood
Here we go, Bob Shrum and Robert Reich on Larry Kudlow's show are pounding Bush for the markets today.
Yes we can.
The markets are so glad to see Bush gone that they had a big sell-off. Yeah, that's it.
361 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:58:11pm |
re: #330 3 wood
Quick, someone send them a memo that Hope and Change as officially begun.
362 | kcladderman Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:58:18pm |
re: #194 Lincolntf
Fox is not perfect by any means, but watch their War coverage versus any other network and you'll see a HUGE difference. Plus, the Fox bubbleheads are hotter.
True on both counts.
363 | SteveC Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:58:21pm |
Ya'll take care! President Bush and Laura just dropped by! We're going to have a beer and watch Tombstone!
Da Prez has a good imitation of Doc Holiday. It's uncanny!
364 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:58:29pm |
re: #329 NomadOfNorad
Just how many slave-owning states did they have in the North, though, anyway? Come to that, how many slave-owners did they have in the North?
Slavery was mostly in the South, was it not?
Missouri, Kentucky and Delaware were slave-owning states that remained in the Union.
365 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:58:38pm |
re: #347 Marvo76
LMAO, yep or if you get a new A/C on duty and tell him the rest of the C-5 doesn't fit on the radar...
Or you can request a descent to 70,000...
366 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:58:41pm |
re: #350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I could be an Fox anchor and be your "eye candy". A veritable [finger] cornucopia of muffintopped gorgeousness.
And with me at your side, hell, the new Hannity and Colmes.
367 | realwest Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:59:03pm |
re: #332 Timbre
Hey thank you Timbre - I'm gonna check it again later on tonight.
And btw, my nic is in blue if you should ever see a transcript of President Bush's remarks around anywhere - I suspect it'll have to come from somewhere down in Texas and I'd be grateful to be able to read them.
368 | RedDish Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:59:09pm |
re: #353 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
But I miss Greggie Kelly.....yummmy!
369 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:59:10pm |
re: #337 faraway
Not being a dick here, but your quoted post stirs me to make a disclaimer in defense of reality.
I can assure you that my ancestors never owned slaves. In fact, they lived their lives more like slaves than as free men, and that was as white men in 19th Century Boston.
If it wasn't for Northerners like my forebears, slavery could still well exist in this country the way it does in scores of others.
370 | Wishing Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:59:18pm |
re: #359 doppelganglander
Shep is pretty cute until he opens his mouth.
I think he is um..inclined to his own?
371 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:59:45pm |
re: #365 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Or you can request a descent to 70,000...
Let me guess you a pilot?
372 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 4:59:48pm |
re: #359 doppelganglander
Shep is pretty cute until he opens his mouth.
Stupid is a MAJOR turn-off for me.
373 | DistantThunder Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:00:08pm |
So Saturday I was driving MR DT's car when the engine blew up in 4 degree weather - at a stoplight.
Tonight I had a flat in my car - but it was only 28 degrees - much better.
374 | kcladderman Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:00:18pm |
re: #343 Sharmuta
One last thing about fox news. They're not really fair and balanced. If they were, there would be more news studs. Why should the women viewers not get to objectify the anchors too?
Not fair, not balanced.
you don't find Neil Cavuto hot?
375 | CommonCents Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:00:21pm |
re: #7 pre-Boomer Marine brat
History will be a lot kinder to Bush than it will to most of the Democrats who have reviled him.
History books won't reference the current Democrats because they tend to sweep their garbage under the rug and not bring it up. That would encompass most of them today.
376 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:00:46pm |
re: #368 RedDish
But I miss Greggie Kelly.....yummmy!
Where'd he go? (Nothing bad, I hope) USMC fighter pilot, what's not to like?
377 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:00:49pm |
re: #340 rawmuse
They'll have about a week left of that tactic, tops.
They'll be pounding Bush for the next 4 to 8 years. Betchya'.
379 | doppelganglander Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:01:11pm |
re: #370 Wishing
I think he is um..inclined to his own?
A lot of people speculate but I don't know. Sadly, the cute ones often are.
380 | 3 wood Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:01:28pm |
re: #321 experiencedtraveller
All about valuations now. Market will hold 8200ish or look out below to 6500. I know you think we are heading that way and you may be right.Hell of a time to try and start shorting...
I know I'm sounding very pessimistic, but I think the financials are all going to near zero, unemployment will jump, the lefties like Pelosi are making dangerous comments about raising capital gains and such, and we got a Treasury nominee in Geithner who can't remember to pay his taxes.
Obama has to make a clear statement of what they are going to do about this within 48 hours or it's look out below.
The market needs to know what the rules are going to be.
381 | Hobbes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:01:38pm |
Food, I need food! Dinner's awaiting. Hubby very gently suggesting dinner's on. He's the cook. Later.
382 | kcladderman Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:01:43pm |
re: #363 SteveC
Ya'll take care! President Bush and Laura just dropped by! We're going to have a beer and watch Tombstone!
Da Prez has a good imitation of Doc Holiday. It's uncanny!
I'll be your huckleberry
383 | DistantThunder Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:01:44pm |
Romney promised that capital would FLEE the country under Obama. I know how it feels.
384 | realwest Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:01:47pm |
re: #348 Hobbes
Because they are LEFTIES that's why. They never heard of the CRA, they have NO IDEA about Harold Raines, Fannie and Freddie Macs and never thought to question whether or not there was going to be any accountability for the TARP money the DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS handed out.
That plus they're assholes. Sorry for repeating myself.
385 | Zombie_Killian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:01:48pm |
re: #369 Lincolntf
The first casualty of the revolutionary war is said to have been a free black sailor killed in the Boston Massacre.
386 | itellu3times Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:01:52pm |
re: #252 Walter L. Newton
I was going to say the exact same thing, but I thought that would really chap some skins. I wish McCain would have said something like that.
amen.
I'm still curious about this 0bama chap, especially after this line.
He has to try to hold onto his left loonie supporters, but, yet, well, just maybe, hey?
Time will tell.
387 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:02:24pm |
re: #371 Marvo76
Let me guess you a pilot?
Private, Instrument and Seaplane rated. 730 hours all on my own dime. Stopped in 2007, just couldn't afford it anymore. Flew antiques, Cubs etc.
388 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:02:27pm |
re: #378 buzzsawmonkey
Fox may claim to be "fair and balanced," but Keith Olbermann can fairly claim to be unbalanced.
In another era, he would be chained to a wall for frothing like that.
Every night now, they actively promote jailing Bush and Cheney.
389 | tradewind Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:02:48pm |
re: #355 Killgore Trout
The departing Bush admin has already shown more class and graciousness to the new prez in the past two days than the Clintons showed in eight years. I can't believe the Dems are still whining about the Blair House.
390 | Mauser Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:02:55pm |
Why haven't I seen Michelle Malkin on Fox as much as I used to? Did she piss someone off?
391 | aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:02:55pm |
392 | RedDish Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:02:57pm |
re: #376 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
When I whined about him once before, someone told me he is working at a local Fox affiliate in NY city.
Love me my flight suited men!
393 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:03:10pm |
re: #375 CommonCents
Yeah, how often do you hear Martin Luther King referred to as a "Republican Evangelist"? Never.
Unfortunately for them, that's what he was.
394 | Irish Rose Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:03:21pm |
Some in the crowd, weary of Bush's eight years in office, booed the president when the large viewing screens near the World War II Memorial flashed an image of the exiting president arriving at the swearing-in. Moments later, rounds of cheers welled up as the same screens showed the incoming first lady, Michelle Obama, and her two daughters, Sasha and Malia.Unfazed by his unpopularity, Bush smiled and waved throughout the day's activities. He blew a kiss out the window of his limousine as he left the White House with Obama.
After the inauguration ceremony, some in the crowd waved at the aircraft in the sky. Others, however, cheered when they heard a television broadcaster announce, "George Bush is no longer president of the United States." Still others in the crowd, broke into chants of "Na-na-na-nah, hey, hey, hey, goodbye"
Assholes.
395 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:03:23pm |
re: #337 faraway
Here are some interesting facts:
African bondage in the colonies north of the Mason-Dixon Line has left a legacy in the economics of modern America and in the racial attitudes of the U.S. working class. Yet comparatively little is written about the 200-year history of Northern slavery. Robert Steinfeld's deservedly praised "The Invention of Free Labor" (1991) states, "By 1804 slavery had been abolished throughout New England," ignoring the 1800 census, which shows 1,488 slaves in New England. Recent archaeological discoveries of slave quarters or cemeteries in Philadelphia and New York City sometimes are written up in newspaper headlines as though they were exhibits of evidence in a case not yet settled (cf. “African Burial Ground Proves Northern Slavery,” The City Sun, Feb. 24, 1993).
[Link: www.slavenorth.com...] I haven't read the whole thing, but it seems to be consistent with what I learned many moons ago (was a thesis project of mine)
396 | itellu3times Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:03:24pm |
re: #383 DistantThunder
Romney promised that capital would FLEE the country under Obama. I know how it feels.
joke on Mitt, capital madoff before Obama showed up.
/
397 | realwest Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:03:25pm |
Well, I surely hope I get the chance to see y'all down the road tonight. Meanwhile I do hope you all have a good evening.
398 | Mauser Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:03:27pm |
re: #385 Zombie_Killian
The first casualty of the revolutionary war is said to have been a free black sailor killed in the Boston Massacre.
Crispus Attucks.
400 | kcladderman Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:04:18pm |
401 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:04:19pm |
re: #392 RedDish
When I whined about him once before, someone told me he is working at a local Fox affiliate in NY city.
Love me my flight suited men!
Strange. I wonder what happend? Meagan tell him to stay home more?
402 | itellu3times Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:04:30pm |
403 | realwest Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:04:39pm |
re: #390 Mauser
Yes she did, actually - she gave an honest opinion of the Democratic Leftist Party and it's plans for the future and Fox, just like the rest of the MSM can't handle the truth.
404 | Mauser Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:04:48pm |
re: #399 tradewind
Did I just see Cheney in a wheelchair?
Yes. He pulled a back muscle moving some boxes.
406 | Timbre Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:05:17pm |
407 | Buster Bunny Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:05:17pm |
408 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:05:28pm |
410 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:05:44pm |
re: #380 3 wood
I agree. I got very disturbing news during the Hope and Change Indoctrination Orientation about the state of our company. It's going to be very bad for awhile.
411 | 3 wood Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:05:50pm |
re: #333 Zombie_Killian
How about the markets between Election Day and now?
Built up to over 9000 and then crashed again.
412 | DistantThunder Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:06:18pm |
And you all know that obama is a "night owl" like Bill Clinton holding all night rap sessions. My personal theory is that Pres. Bush had a reason to turn in early...if you know what I mean.
413 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:06:32pm |
re: #399 tradewind
Did I just see Cheney in a wheelchair?
Yes, he pulled something in his back moving boxes.
414 | tradewind Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:06:39pm |
re: #404 Mauser
Glada it's not serious.... I can just hear the get-well wishes on Kos and DU pouring in now......
Oh wait, no I can't....
415 | Charles Johnson Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:07:14pm |
Added a video clip from Bush's speech above -- you'll have to reload to see it.
417 | IowaFan Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:08:17pm |
I still remember being at McCormick Place in Chicago at a huge Trade show on 9/11, riding up an escalator to head home...
Two guys in front of me talking, "Man, I'm sure glad Gore didn't win now!"
I smiled and wandered to my hotel to see how many people I could take west with me in my car since planes were grounded by then...
Seems like a lifetime ago.
418 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:08:19pm |
re: #404 Mauser
Yes. He pulled a back muscle moving some boxes.
I'll bet the movers weren't moving shit fast enough to suit him. He can't wait to get out of there.
419 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:08:31pm |
420 | NomadOfNorad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:08:32pm |
re: #354 ArmyWife
Nope. Well, let me take that back. The south had more slaves in volume, but there were plenty of slave owners in the north. The South was agrarian, they had more numbers to work the land.
There were a lot of people all through the USA who supported and/or benefited from slave ownership. There were a lot of people all through the USA who were also appalled by slave ownership. It was a largely moral issue. I suspect for it's day it was a morally defining issue, sort of like abortion is today. It is entirely possible people will be looking back on today's world with the same sort of simplistic, 20/20 hindsight about our present society's support of abortion that we now look back at the Nineteenth Century's support of slavery.
421 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:08:34pm |
One of the best things tricks I ever did to someone was on board the Uss Mt. Whitney, we had a new a/c on his first cruise and used the naval tactical data scopes (which were almost like a video game) but one of the first things yu did when sitting down was to hit a button called "enter mode and radar" which tripped a buzzer. You then had to hit another button to silence the alarm. Big C ( who was in deed a big boy) sat down to the scope and hit the EMAR button, as soon as the buzzer sounded I did my best panicked voice and told him "QUICK FASTEN YOUR SAFETY BELT, FASTEN YOUR SAFETY BELT!" This guy was trying to get his seat blet ( to hold you in the seat during rough weather) strtetched out to his wide load, all the while the other guys who caught what i was doing were shouting at him "HURRY YOU DON"T HAVE MUCH TIME" I was about to piss myself to keep from laughing....
422 | Buster Bunny Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:08:47pm |
re: #415 Charles
Added a video clip from Bush's speech above -- you'll have to reload to see it.
Sorry Charles it pulls a 404 for me .. sure its working?
423 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:08:49pm |
re: #415 Charles
Added a video clip from Bush's speech above -- you'll have to reload to see it.
I missed the part where folks booed and hissed Obama. Oh wait...
424 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:10:45pm |
/I actually have to click the mouse and reload to see the clip? But it's Obama's world now. I shouldn't have to.
426 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:10:48pm |
re: #407 Buster Bunny
The Boston Massacre was the most monumental snowball fight in the history of the world.
427 | realwest Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:11:02pm |
re: #395 ArmyWife
and #337 faraway if you are interested in Slavery, you might want to check out [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] and in particular sections 3 and 4 dealing with MODERN slavery in Muslim countries and in African countries.
Gotta go eat dinner now and I sincerely hope I get the chance to see you all down the road later tonight.
428 | Buster Bunny Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:11:09pm |
re: #422 Buster Bunny
Skip that it just flew into life. I blame firefox 3 and the secret Z conspiracy.
/brought to you by Microsoft and that new Beta of Version 7
429 | Irish Rose Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:11:17pm |
Well folks, the liberal left is in charge of policy and national security for the next four years.
Time to start in on the bottle of cheap wine that I bought for just this occasion.
430 | jelo Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:11:25pm |
posted this at the dead end of the other thread..believe it is somewhat poignant today.
431 | DistantThunder Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:11:44pm |
6 words that I have waited to say: "It is good to be home."
Reminds me of Joe Biden and his 3 letter word "Jobs"
432 | 3 wood Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:11:52pm |
re: #339 Oh no...Sand People!
I am guessing the answer is '4' years or '8' if Obama wins reelection, but how long will they be able to blame Bush for the market before it finally becomes Obama's responsibility?
It's Obama's now.
If he announced tonight a capital gains tax cut, or better yet, my suggestion of zero capitals gains taxes for the next 2 years, you would see the market jump.
It's on him now.
433 | Boogberg Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:11:56pm |
Hi 3 wood,
I pulled the trigger on 500 shares of Ford at $2.10. Thumbs up or thumbs down?
434 | Sharmuta Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:11:56pm |
re: #415 Charles
Thanks, Charles.
That was cute- "a son-in-law". Dubya has kept his sense of humor, and that's a wonderful thing.
435 | DEZes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:12:12pm |
re: #394 Irish Rose
Liberals have all the class of 2nd grade bullies.
436 | Irish Rose Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:12:23pm |
437 | karmic_inquisitor Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:12:45pm |
I know this isn't twitter but Obama's new pastor motivated me to not cook dinner tonight but instead buy chinese food so that the "Yellow can be mellow".
438 | 3 wood Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:13:02pm |
439 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:13:06pm |
440 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:13:31pm |
re: #420 NomadOfNorad
Please don't think I view it as "simplistic". This is something that has fascinated me since high school, from the perspective of "how can one human be able to do this to another human". It was, and is, mind boggling. I always wondered if the "different species" argument (or variations of it) invoked was more to justify horrible actions to themselves rather than honestly held beliefs.
441 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:13:54pm |
Looks like Obama is doing one good thing. He's getting rid of the stupid radio address and is making a video address each Saturday.
442 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:14:38pm |
re: #431 DistantThunder
Well, the "s" is silent and...umm...I didn't want to be Secretary Of State!
443 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:14:59pm |
re: #437 karmic_inquisitor
I know this isn't twitter but Obama's new pastor motivated me to not cook dinner tonight but instead buy chinese food so that the "Yellow can be mellow".
What if the yellow doesn't want to be mellow? What if they want to be hyper. Really, it ought to be their decision.
445 | gregg Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:15:56pm |
What's the story with Texas Governor Rick Perry (I know nothing about him other than seeing him during hurricane coverage)? Is he considered a possible presidential candidate?
446 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:15:59pm |
447 | rawmuse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:15:59pm |
re: #441 faraway
I happen to like radio. It does not engage you 100 percent. You can do other things while it broadcasts, like the dishes, or drive a car.
448 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:16:06pm |
re: #443 EmmmieG
What if the yellow doesn't want to be mellow? What if they want to be hyper. Really, it ought to be their decision.
Do you have a problem with the collective's descisions, Comrade?
449 | Buster Bunny Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:16:26pm |
re: #441 faraway
Looks like Obama is doing one good thing. He's getting rid of the stupid radio address and is making a video address each Saturday.
Given a choice of watching him on Youtube or ogling at Christina Del Basso .. Big Brother 9 in Italy (biggest melons in history) .. I dunno ... its gonna be a tough choice ....
The boob? ... or the boob?
451 | DistantThunder Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:16:37pm |
re: #444 ArmyWife
It was a free country.
yeah, not anymore. Obama now tell us it is our duty to volunteer. You know he will force us if he can.
452 | Timbre Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:17:07pm |
Charles: You start registering all the possible domain names for [Link: www.obamawhatever.com....] If we all chip in, LGF could rule the world!
(Oh, wait...LGF already rules!)
454 | JacksonTn Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:18:30pm |
re: #447 rawmuse
I happen to like radio. It does not engage you 100 percent. You can do other things while it broadcasts, like the dishes, or drive a car.
rawmuse ...hey...how was our warm vacation! ..I was down in south florida for a few days and the weather was in the low 70s but it was on business but it sure was nice ...now I am back to the freezing stuff ...bet you had a better time ...
455 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:18:36pm |
re: #447 rawmuse
Agreed. I have the radio on all day at work (mainly sports, but occassionally political talk) and I hate the days when I can't listen to it. I also prefer radio broadcasts over TV for baseball, except for really important games.
456 | Digital Display Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:18:41pm |
re: #415 Charles
Added a video clip from Bush's speech above -- you'll have to reload to see it.
Thanks Charles..Our Oracle upgrade was completed this evening after 4 days.
I'm still upset about Java script versioning errors across the net platform.. If prescript version 3.x.x runs your Logistics provider on the web and controls label printing.. yet a newer version blows everything up? Bullcrap..I had to uninstall a 147 machines of the wrong version and push out the 5.x.x version that Oracle R12 will run on..and only run that version..no matter how many multiple apps you run from that workstation..
And you know what Charles? If FireFox wanted to get rich and sassy they should design snap-ins for Oracle..Everyone I know likes Firefox but it isn't work compatible..That really sucks..
Somebody..design a rock solid plugin to run Oracle and charge a fee..You will be so fr'g rich
457 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:18:53pm |
re: #449 Buster Bunny
Given a choice of watching him on Youtube or ogling at Christina Del Basso .. Big Brother 9 in Italy (biggest melons in history) .. I dunno ... its gonna be a tough choice ....
The boob? ... or the boob?
Watch...
[Link: video.aol.com...]
I love European TV.
458 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:18:53pm |
459 | 3 wood Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:18:55pm |
re: #433 Boogberg
I pulled the trigger on 500 shares of Ford at $2.10. Thumbs up or thumbs down?
Well,you can't lose a whole lot that way. I think eventually Ford will get combined with GM and form a new auto company.
460 | Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:18:57pm |
re: #342 Marvo76
Good book I reread it every couple of years, and you know what? It still applies every time I read, more and more except for the trains...and I would bet that will be coming soon to hit our "carbon goals"
I wonder what took me so long to discover it. Aside from trains, I could swear the lady wrote it last year. Everything is completely relevant. Guess Rush isn't kidding when he says the 'left' uses an 'old playbook'.
462 | iChef Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:19:52pm |
Since this will probably be the only time Midland Texas, my hometown will be mentioned here on LGF I guess I'll chime in.
Thanks President Bush for keep us safe, showing the world Texas hospitality and keeping your word.
463 | Buster Bunny Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:19:56pm |
re: #457 Walter L. Newton
Watch...
[Link: video.aol.com...]
I love European TV.
Walt for that you get all my dings, even the ones i'd allocate to creationists !
464 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:20:29pm |
465 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:20:39pm |
re: #459 3 wood
Well,you can't lose a whole lot that way. I think eventually Ford will get combined with GM and form a new auto company.
And if they get nationalized and then given to the UAW?
466 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:20:49pm |
re: #456 HoosierHoops
Ok shut up, you got a job :)
/
You know Oracle keeps you employed. Between major upgrades, family packs, patches etc., you never have to worry about work.
467 | Soona' Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:21:26pm |
re: #459 3 wood
Well,you can't lose a whole lot that way. I think eventually Ford will get combined with GM and form a new auto company.
So we'll be buying Fordolets?
/Now I'm really leaving.
468 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:21:32pm |
re: #465 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
If that happens, does the UAW get to bargain over what the stock price is worth?
///
469 | Boogberg Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:22:03pm |
re: #459 3 wood
Well,you can't lose a whole lot that way. I think eventually Ford will get combined with GM and form a new auto company.
I'm sitting on 550 shares of GM too. :D
470 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:22:17pm |
re: #463 Buster Bunny
Walt for that you get all my dings, even the ones i'd allocate to creationists !
Up dings or down dings?
471 | Irish Rose Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:22:36pm |
Arbor Mist strawberry, anyone?
Goes great with leftover taco dip.
472 | rawmuse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:22:38pm |
re: #454 JacksonTn
I had a great time indeed. One of the benefits of my long marriage to my spouse is that she makes me a) save monthly for vacations and b) pay for them in advance and c) take them and enjoy them. It was just great on the island of Maui.
But, there are some truly breathtaking prices there, for gas and grocs. I think I paid five bucks for a half gallon of milk at a Safeway, among other things. Fantastic place, the whales were out with their calves and the escort males, weather got a little rough at one point, but we didn't mind.
473 | GoIllini Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:22:51pm |
re: #26 karmic_inquisitor
At this point, opinions of Bush can only go up, whereas opinions of Obama can only go down.
Woo hoo! Regression to the mean! (Or, as Francis Galton originally observed, "regression to mediocrity," which I fear will/does describe Obama).
May God bless GWB--thanks for your years of service. Not perfect, but always sincere and wanted to do right by the country.
474 | summergurl Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:22:54pm |
re: #465 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
And if they get nationalized and then given to the UAW?
If theya re nationalized no one will have to give them to the UAW. The UAW will own them lock stock and barrel.
475 | LeePro Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:22:58pm |
re: #415 Charles
Added a video clip from Bush's speech above -- you'll have to reload to see it.
Thank you, Charles!
476 | rightymouse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:23:16pm |
477 | Buster Bunny Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:23:17pm |
re: #470 Walter L. Newton
Up dings or down dings?
We are socialist now. All dings remain of equal value until proven otherwise.
478 | experiencedtraveller Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:23:49pm |
Sex doll bandit on the loose in Australia!
479 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:23:55pm |
re: #477 Buster Bunny
We are socialist now. All dings remain of equal value until proven otherwise.
socialist.i.am
480 | Oh no...Sand People! Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:24:31pm |
re: #477 Buster Bunny
We are socialist now. All dings remain of equal value until proven otherwise.
But some dings are more equal than others.
481 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:25:09pm |
re: #478 experiencedtraveller
Sex doll bandit on the loose in Australia!
He could have at least washed them out when he was done.
482 | JacksonTn Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:25:36pm |
re: #472 rawmuse
I had a great time indeed. One of the benefits of my long marriage to my spouse is that she makes me a) save monthly for vacations and b) pay for them in advance and c) take them and enjoy them. It was just great on the island of Maui.
But, there are some truly breathtaking prices there, for gas and grocs. I think I paid five bucks for a half gallon of milk at a Safeway, among other things. Fantastic place, the whales were out with their calves and the escort males, weather got a little rough at one point, but we didn't mind.
You have a good wife ...every time I have been to Maui the whales go into hiding I swear ...the prices are high but it is so beautiful ...I love to get scooters and ride around on the island ...its tough to get back to work I bet but next year will be a great vacation too ...glad you made it home safe ...
483 | JCM Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:25:38pm |
re: #477 Buster Bunny
We are socialist now. All dings remain of equal value until proven otherwise.
And we'll have to spread the dings around.
484 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:25:48pm |
re: #477 Buster Bunny
Certainly some dings are more important than others, no?
485 | Buster Bunny Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:26:03pm |
re: #478 experiencedtraveller
Sex doll bandit on the loose in Australia!
From the article ...
A Cairns, Australia gentleman burglarized three adult shops, stealing blow-up sex dolls called "Jungle Jane" and having sex with them in an alley. Police have collected evidence, including DNA.
This could blow up in his face .. big time.
486 | DEZes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:26:17pm |
487 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:26:53pm |
re: #471 Irish Rose
Arbor Mist strawberry, anyone?
Goes great with leftover taco dip.
That Boone's Farm?
Hiya Rose!
488 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:27:56pm |
re: #480 Oh no...Sand People!
Right. There are VIP dings, and general dings.
490 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:28:19pm |
re: #478 experiencedtraveller
Sex doll bandit on the loose in Australia!
The dolls were all found to have very surprised looks frozen on their faces.
491 | Irish Rose Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:28:25pm |
re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Howdy, FBV ;).
Nope, lighter and bubbl-ee-er.
492 | LeePro Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:28:46pm |
re: #431 DistantThunder
6 words that I have waited to say: "It is good to be home."
Reminds me of Joe Biden and his 3 letter word "Jobs"
"It is good to be home." = 6 words
How does that remind you of JB's 3/4-letter flub?
493 | monkeytime Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:29:03pm |
494 | Digital Display Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:29:08pm |
re: #466 Walter L. Newton
Ok shut up, you got a job :)
/You know Oracle keeps you employed. Between major upgrades, family packs, patches etc., you never have to worry about work.
I just don't get it Walter.. I remember starting out preping executive Powerpoint presentations to run over to the offices in silly cone valley.. But nobody from Sun would allow a Microsoft product in the building..so i would have to convert the files to star office and support it on the CEO and CIO's laptops.
When you download the latest greatest Javascript version..everything earlier should work perfect and rock solid... The worst upgrade path in the history of technology..
495 | bolivar Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:29:12pm |
I already left a message to the President from another thread. I am so glad that George W. Bush was president on 9-11-01. To think we could have had that fatass putz in the office and OH BOY wouldn't that have been a real clusterfuck? I don't honestly think we would be doing this right now - Gore's precious invention would be non-functional along with a lot of the rest of the technostructure.
I have made my beloved wife very short with me of late. Whenever they begin the obasms I sigh or roll my eyes and she gets pissed. To hell with that - I will not live a lie. I have no use for the asshole and never will. He will NEVER amount to more than a bucket of old spit so why should I try to lie and make kisssy face and smiles - FUCK THAT SHIT! I call em as I see em and this guy is a loser deluxe and we will be going down the drain with him.
I did the best I could to prop up the useless McCain and had a viable candidate ran against the messiah - ya know like Sarah maybe things might have been different.
Saw on Drudge where Newspeak and Slime mag is having morale problems and gee I really feel bad for them - don't all of you? I mean to think they can lie and cheat and help spankin frankin steal an election and get a dumbo-eared moron elected presidink and we are supposed to assume they really have a right to our pity? To hell with them all. The MSM can bite me and I am canceling my paper tomorrow. I don't read the damn thing anyway - and todays was just thrown in the bin unread after scanning the obasms all over the front page. I hate them all and wish them genital warts and herpes.
496 | Buster Bunny Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:29:20pm |
re: #484 Lincolntf
Certainly some dings are more important than others, no?
Four legs good .. two legs bad.
/Orwell - Animal Farm
497 | DEZes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:29:28pm |
re: #490 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The dolls were all found to have very surprised looks frozen on their faces.
Best laugh of my day, thanks!
498 | ergo sum Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:29:45pm |
My hometown made me proud today. I have not always agreed with President Bush, but I have always respected him and thank God he was our President following 9/11 and for the last 8 years!
499 | NomadOfNorad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:30:27pm |
re: #440 ArmyWife
Please don't think I view it as "simplistic". This is something that has fascinated me since high school, from the perspective of "how can one human be able to do this to another human". It was, and is, mind boggling. I always wondered if the "different species" argument (or variations of it) invoked was more to justify horrible actions to themselves rather than honestly held beliefs.
Okay, simplistic is probably the wrong word. It just strikes me that a lot of people tend to take a Readers Digest view of the slave era and not necessarily understand that things weren't as cut and dried as we'd like to think they were, here in our safe, academic, armchair-history view of the era.
Wasn't trying to imply you were one of those, but there are a lot like that.
In any event, some people seem to think they're making a profound point when they mention how the North benefited indirectly from the slavery of the South, and imply that it was purely a symbolic move when Abe outlawed slavery only in the South. The truth is, the main center of slavery usage WAS in the South, so it made sense to outlaw it mainly there, since it doing so it effectively ended it EVERYwhere in the USA: After all, if it is stopped in the South, where slavery was absolutely an integral part of the economy, what usefulness then does slavery have in places where it's NOT all that commonly used and is NOT an integral part of the local economy?
I'm sorry, but I don't think they're making a profound point with that distinction. It is, so far as I'm concerned, a red herring. It is a difference that makes NO difference, since the point behind Abe's actions (to outlaw slavery in the South) ultimately WAS designed to HAVE the end result of ending slavery in the whole of the USA. It just did so by abolishing it where it was most strongly concentrated.
500 | Age Of Freedom Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:31:33pm |
OT:
Hamas fires 8 mortar shells at Israel, but all 8 land in Gaza:
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
Hope'n'Change!
501 | itellu3times Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:31:36pm |
re: #465 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
And if they get nationalized and then given to the UAW?
A grateful nation will thank you for your contribution.
502 | rawmuse Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:31:55pm |
It made me so happy to see all the young people happy about Obama.
After all, they are the ones who will be paying for all that nonsense long after I am pushing up daisies.
504 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:32:22pm |
505 | Timbre Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:32:48pm |
re: #498 ergo sum
My hometown made me proud today. I have not always agreed with President Bush, but I have always respected him and thank God he was our President following 9/11 and for the last 8 years!
Not trying to pry, but is your hometown Midland? That's where I am.
506 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:32:52pm |
508 | itellu3times Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:33:41pm |
re: #504 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Well played... nice!
We must all learn to speak this way, comrade. To think this way.
/
509 | MandyManners Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:34:01pm |
re: #506 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Did she change out of the Klingon Battle Armor?
It's frou-frou beyond belief.
510 | faraway Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:34:33pm |
Like the hydra, the enemy now waging war on the west has many heads - but it is one enemy, and it feeds in particular on the perception that the west is weak and is no longer willing to defend itself by military means.The very reason that so many in the west are so entranced by Obama is thus the very reason why our enemies are today rubbing their hands in satisfaction.
The left is waking up already. one wacko at a time.
511 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:35:36pm |
re: #508 itellu3times
That's the ticket. The simple acceptance that what we think we own, we are merely borrowing from the collective and it is our own selfishness that keeps us from giving it to its rightful owners.
513 | UberInfidel67 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:35:58pm |
re: #495 bolivar Well, I hope you feel better now that you got that off your chest. lol
515 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:36:26pm |
re: #509 MandyManners
It's frou-frou beyond belief.
I am so glad I can't see it. Can't Zero keep her locked in a closet or something for the next 4 years? She has no taste.
516 | Irish Rose Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:37:41pm |
[Link: obamaclock.org...]
Countdown until Obama leaves Office:
1460 Days, 14 Hours, 23 Minutes, 11 Seconds.
517 | Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:38:03pm |
518 | Truck Monkey Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:39:51pm |
519 | VioletTiger Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:41:05pm |
re: #503 MandyManners
Is WAB going to the prom?
I just don't know what to make of it. And I'm not often speechless.
520 | Digital Display Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:41:07pm |
re: #512 songbird
Hello HoosierHoops! How's it going?
{HoosierHoops}
Hi {Songbird}
Hope today finds you well! I'm enjoying American Idol...Relaxing..long four days of work.. Mama is out with the girls..painting our friends new house, drinking and telling wicked stories..LOL..
Things are cool..er i mean cold
521 | bolivar Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:41:27pm |
re: #513 UberInfidel67
Well, I hope you feel better now that you got that off your chest. lol
Yup Uber I do. This is a good place to blow off steam. I work in Medway Mass. and this area is prime messiah territory and they slam Bush here mercilessly. I have to bite my tongue as I am a contract worker right now and if I piss too many off I could be history. In the current economy I cannot afford to do that. When one a-hole in particular (a pretty decent guy otherwise) starts to go on about the "criminal Bush" I just leave. Better to keep my blood pressure lower and so forth.
Folks, I am very proud of this community. We have a great disparity in here - most for the good and it is a good place to kick back and wiggle your toes in your footie jammies. Now if you don't have footies a large pair of socks will suffice.
Charles, thank you for a great place to hang out and stuff.
522 | itellu3times Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:42:48pm |
re: #511 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
That's the ticket. The simple acceptance that what we think we own, we are merely borrowing from the collective and it is our own selfishness that keeps us from giving it to its rightful owners.
we do what we do, for the people, for the children, for Progress, tovarisch. must free ourselves from the bondage of money, the government will help us all there, believe it!
524 | Walter Cronanty Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:43:56pm |
Totally OT
Don't know why I'm posting this, other than I've noticed that some have posted personal "situations" and, I guess, it's a chance, after a couple of glasses of wine, to wallow in self-pity anonymously. A few months ago, I posted how proud I was of my youngest son who had graduated from college in 3 years while going through horrendous treatment for leukemia. I probably jinxed him.
On Christmas Eve, our worst fears were confirmed, the cancer had returned. He entered the Cleveland Clinic on Jan. 4th. After 4 days of full body radiation, he had 36 straight hours of chemo. Luckily, his bother was a match [a 1 in 4 chance, as I understand, but an excellent match] and he had a bone marrow transplant last Wednesday.
He is currently on a morphine drip [the Dr. said that years ago, the treatment was so bad they used to induce a coma like situation]. His immune system is completely destroyed - my wife, a nurse, says that a low-normal white count is around 4,000 - his is 10 - my wife also says that his white counts are so low that the lab techs are probably just making up the "10"]. I haven't gone to the hospital to see him in a few days because I have a cold, and he and his mother are scared to death of any infection. So, I'm sitting home with the dog - my wife is at the hospital 24-7 - with about 10" of global warming on the ground.
Again, I have no idea why I'm posting this. I guess to have someone say: "oh, it's alright, everything will be fine", when I know that's BS. Humans are strange, No?
525 | bolivar Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:44:24pm |
re: #520 HoosierHoops
Hoosier, did your company go to 11i ? My old one is still on 8i and they are pleading poverty about the upgrade. They pay a fortune for support for the antique system. Oh well I don't work there anymore. The company I am at now has 11i but, their internut connection is not the fastest and latency is a real drag. I had been used to - oh 2 to 10 second transaction times at most and now minimum is 5 -10 for any intensive activity.
526 | nyc redneck Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:45:17pm |
shouldn't the market have gone up a lot today.
i mean, he's the beloved messianic lightworker.
(his karma sucks and all the circus hype can't hide it)
527 | Walter Cronanty Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:45:42pm |
While he definitely is a "bother", he's really a "brother." Cut me off!
529 | Lincolntf Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:47:01pm |
re: #523 Iron Fist
I know. It's pathetic that our history is being re-written by such blatant liars.
530 | songbird Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:47:12pm |
re: #520 HoosierHoops
Hi {Songbird}
Hope today finds you well! I'm enjoying American Idol...Relaxing..long four days of work.. Mama is out with the girls..painting our friends new house, drinking and telling wicked stories..LOL..
Things are cool..er i mean cold
Doing well. School went smoothly despite the whole school watching the Obamathon.
Mr. Songbird is excited about starting work tomorrow and we've been looking at houses in that area, too.
531 | bolivar Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:48:26pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
Walter, I am very sorry for your situation. My prayers are out to your son and you and your wife. You certainly need them. I wish I could do more - if you want to talk more detailed you can get to me through Charles I believe.
I know I speak for all the others on the thread. Our best wishes and prayers for a quick and complete recovery.
532 | ArmyWife Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:48:48pm |
re: #499 NomadOfNorad
Actually, the point was a military maneuver - it was made to cripple the South's economy and force them to come back into the Union. Lincoln stated if he could end the war by freeing the slaves, he would. He went on to say if he could end the war by not freeing slaves, he would. This wasn't about Lincoln's innate need to abolish slavery, it was about keeping the Union together. In fact, the Emancipation Proclamation had a deadline - what would have happened if the South came back before then?
That said, Lincoln was not interested in allowing slavery to grow, he did have issues with this. Lincoln never felt blacks were equivalent to whites in every respect - but he did say blacks were entitled to the same basic rights under the constitution. He just wasn't sure he had the constitutional authority to do anything about it for political reasons - only militarily (states rights vs. federal - the crux of the civil war).
Slavery, and how it really ended, is a remarkable story and it's a shame the real truth can't come out - its much more exciting then the Lincoln myth. The fact that slaves freed themselves, and the measures they took for this to happen under the Emancipation Proclamation is a true testament to the grit and determination of the human spirit.
534 | Digital Display Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:49:16pm |
re: #525 bolivar
Hoosier, did your company go to 11i ? My old one is still on 8i and they are pleading poverty about the upgrade. They pay a fortune for support for the antique system. Oh well I don't work there anymore. The company I am at now has 11i but, their internut connection is not the fastest and latency is a real drag. I had been used to - oh 2 to 10 second transaction times at most and now minimum is 5 -10 for any intensive activity.
We went to 11i went it first came out..We just went R12. I'm a ten year Vet of Oracle.. So Mama keeps the suicide belts locked away..LOL
535 | bolivar Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:53:38pm |
re: #534 HoosierHoops
We went to 11i went it first came out..We just went R12. I'm a ten year Vet of Oracle.. So Mama keeps the suicide belts locked away..LOL
We originally went to 8i in 1999 - ya know the big y2k crappola. The first setup we had was a single very slow Sun server box and it was so sllllloooooowwwwww we were all over their case. We had come from a mainframe based UNIX legacy proprietary system (worked for TI) and is was FAST! To go to the world wide wait was regression of the worst order.
536 | seekeroftruth Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:53:38pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
(((Walter Cronanty))) Prayers for you, your wife and son. May your son get better and you recover from your cold so you can see your son.
537 | nyc redneck Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:54:24pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
i'm so sorry. i pray your son is better soon.
538 | monkeytime Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:55:14pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
Dear Walter,
My heart hurts for you. I can not imagine the pain of what you are going through. I'm glad that you posted so we can all send you prayers and/or positive thoughts and cyber hugs. Your son knows you love him very much and would be there only if you could.
Please keep us updated.
539 | LeePro Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:55:40pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
Walter, because everything is not always going to be just fine, I must applaud your stamina and courage during the terrible time you're going through. My prayers are with you and your son and your family!
541 | Promethea Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:57:48pm |
re: #289 ArmyWife
The government would do the citizens a favor by pointing out the majority of the burden falls upon the state in these situations. Perhaps that would help them make better choices when voting for mayors and governors. Or not.
Good point. I've been quite annoyed throughout this interminable election period that candidates rarely take the time--using simple sound bites--to explain what the various branches of government and the various federal, state, and local governments are supposed to do.
For example, the whole Katrina mess is blamed on Bush--unfairly so. Yesterday, at my local Starbucks some people were complaining about a big pothole in the street and thought that Obama would now take care of this "infrastructure" problem.
There is a lot of ignorance out there, and I blame the schools. I thought it was funny (in a sad sort of way) that Obama talked about improving the schools in his speech. That is NOT HIS JOB.
The funny thing is that he wants to make them as good as the school I went to in the olden days, before the feds ever got involved in local education. In those ancient days, teachers had to teach the "basics," and as bored as I was, I did manage to learn to read, spell, do arithmetic, and learn about the U.S. Constitution and the three branches of government.
542 | Irish Rose Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:58:50pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
Holding you and your entire family up in prayer... starting right now.
543 | Digital Display Tue, Jan 20, 2009 5:59:16pm |
re: #535 bolivar
We originally went to 8i in 1999 - ya know the big y2k crappola. The first setup we had was a single very slow Sun server box and it was so sllllloooooowwwwww we were all over their case. We had come from a mainframe based UNIX legacy proprietary system (worked for TI) and is was FAST! To go to the world wide wait was regression of the worst order.
We will have to exchange email addy's..
To move from fat clients to web based Oracle has been quite the experience..
Our Compaany has always been about running the fastest servers and the biggest pipes...But in the old days we called it SnoreOracle..
544 | bolivar Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:03:03pm |
re: #543 HoosierHoops
We will have to exchange email addy's..
To move from fat clients to web based Oracle has been quite the experience..
Our Compaany has always been about running the fastest servers and the biggest pipes...But in the old days we called it SnoreOracle..
SnoreOracle huh? Kinda catchy. Oracle is ok but, still not the best thing going. When we were getting ready for the original change we researched and found that companies had gone bankrupt when they changed to Oracle and it scared the pantaloons off of a lot of us. Oracle views things like - you change your business to fit Oracle - ah no - we changed Oracle to fit the way WE do busines. This is Oracle's big bugaboo - they do things their way and if you don't like it you will be out a lot of samoleans to fix it.
545 | Walter Cronanty Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:04:05pm |
re: #531 bolivar
re: #536 seekeroftruth
re: #537 nyc redneck
re: #539 LeePro
Thank you. I really should be used to this. My sister, God rest her soul, went through this [death of her son, my nephew, through an accident at gas station] while her daughter was a very brittle diabetic. Thank goodness, my niece out-lived my sister by one year. Don't know how my brother-in-law did it. I guess you get to appreciate what other folks "accomplish" only later in life.
546 | Digital Display Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:04:51pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
Totally OT
Don't know why I'm posting this, other than I've noticed that some have posted personal "situations" and, I guess, it's a chance, after a couple of glasses of wine, to wallow in self-pity anonymously. A few months ago, I posted how proud I was of my youngest son who had graduated from college in 3 years while going through horrendous treatment for leukemia. I probably jinxed him.
On Christmas Eve, our worst fears were confirmed, the cancer had returned. He entered the Cleveland Clinic on Jan. 4th. After 4 days of full body radiation, he had 36 straight hours of chemo. Luckily, his bother was a match [a 1 in 4 chance, as I understand, but an excellent match] and he had a bone marrow transplant last Wednesday.
He is currently on a morphine drip [the Dr. said that years ago, the treatment was so bad they used to induce a coma like situation]. His immune system is completely destroyed - my wife, a nurse, says that a low-normal white count is around 4,000 - his is 10 - my wife also says that his white counts are so low that the lab techs are probably just making up the "10"]. I haven't gone to the hospital to see him in a few days because I have a cold, and he and his mother are scared to death of any infection. So, I'm sitting home with the dog - my wife is at the hospital 24-7 - with about 10" of global warming on the ground.
Again, I have no idea why I'm posting this. I guess to have someone say: "oh, it's alright, everything will be fine", when I know that's BS. Humans are strange, No?
Dear Walter..Thank you for posting tonight..The heart of the Lizard Nation goes out to you tonight...Many times from the deepest depths of darkness we cry out for light and reason.. There is little of either.. But you have friends and family that will give you support.. You have friends here that know what you are going through..
May God grant you peace tonight and strength to carry on...
kind regards
The Hoopster
547 | David IV of Georgia Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:05:48pm |
I'm fixin' to get all choked up remembring how he led our country through these tough years. People say he talked funny. Funny thing is, he talked like all the folks I grew up with. I recon he's glad to get back where people talk normal.
And yes, we do speak this way in Texas.
548 | Digital Display Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:07:03pm |
re: #544 bolivar
SnoreOracle huh? Kinda catchy. Oracle is ok but, still not the best thing going. When we were getting ready for the original change we researched and found that companies had gone bankrupt when they changed to Oracle and it scared the pantaloons off of a lot of us. Oracle views things like - you change your business to fit Oracle - ah no - we changed Oracle to fit the way WE do busines. This is Oracle's big bugaboo - they do things their way and if you don't like it you will be out a lot of samoleans to fix it.
No my friend.. You hire 50 Indian Pl/SQL programmers to do whatever you want Oracle to do.. Period..And I mean everything..
Otherwise..good luck...:)
549 | NomadOfNorad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:08:58pm |
re: #532 ArmyWife
Actually, the point was a military maneuver - it was made to cripple the South's economy and force them to come back into the Union. Lincoln stated if he could end the war by freeing the slaves, he would. He went on to say if he could end the war by not freeing slaves, he would. This wasn't about Lincoln's innate need to abolish slavery, it was about keeping the Union together. In fact, the Emancipation Proclamation had a deadline - what would have happened if the South came back before then?
That said, Lincoln was not interested in allowing slavery to grow, he did have issues with this. Lincoln never felt blacks were equivalent to whites in every respect - but he did say blacks were entitled to the same basic rights under the constitution. He just wasn't sure he had the constitutional authority to do anything about it for political reasons - only militarily (states rights vs. federal - the crux of the civil war).
Slavery, and how it really ended, is a remarkable story and it's a shame the real truth can't come out - its much more exciting then the Lincoln myth. The fact that slaves freed themselves, and the measures they took for this to happen under the Emancipation Proclamation is a true testament to the grit and determination of the human spirit.
Very good point. And it is also a pity that the equalization of blacks with whites in the South after that was stopped in it's tracks for more than a century. It took until the 1960s to finally give blacks equal rights and the dignity they deserved.
Unfortunately, that too seems to have been frozen in place by the Left's desire to make sure the blacks as a whole remain (in their minds) dependent upon the Donks for their wellbeing... so that they'll continue to vote, as a block, for the Donks.
550 | Walter Cronanty Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:10:28pm |
551 | NomadOfNorad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:10:35pm |
BYW, they're talking about Roosevelt now, and the growth of government under his administration.
552 | bolivar Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:13:34pm |
re: #548 HoosierHoops
No my friend.. You hire 50 Indian Pl/SQL programmers to do whatever you want Oracle to do.. Period..And I mean everything..
Otherwise..good luck...:)
Oh my old company has half the Indian subcontinent on the IT payroll (or did before the obasm scare hit) and they have kept the dang thing running ok but, still clunky. I like 11i better but, only if they have the infrastructure to back it up. You have to have some kickass computers and the hamsters were pretty tired on a lot of the 8i pc's. My wife is still there and just got rid of an old Dell optiplex with no sound and it was one of the first to run nt. It was barely able to run Oracle let alone anything else. My wife went down to IT and told them her PC sounded like an angry beaver - could you please come and make it better? THey laughed their butts off and looked at it and said they just throw them away. She is happy with a new(er) machine.
Well folks, gotta get up and make money for the messiah to tax away. Keep your stick on the ice!
553 | NomadOfNorad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:14:47pm |
re: #551 NomadOfNorad
BYW, they're talking about Roosevelt now, and the growth of government under his administration.
PIMF!
BYW = BTW
554 | ensignsj Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:18:04pm |
It's easy and lazy to bash Bush right now. That's most certainly why the media can do little else during their infrequent breaks from the equally lazy work of lavishing praise on Obama. Bush's legacy will be written over the next few decades as the tough work of his policies continues to play out. Not all of it will be good, but much of it will. I don't care what anyone says about Bush; the man has class. He's demonstrated that throughout this transition, but also throughout his presidency. His magnanimous demeanor in the face of bitter rivals has not gone unnoticed by me.
555 | zelnaga Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:18:22pm |
re: #7 pre-Boomer Marine brat
History will be a lot kinder to Bush than it will to most of the Democrats who have reviled him.
None of the Democrats who reviled him were president and most of them will probably play as significant a part in the history books as St. Helena has
re: #75 faraway
My daughter just called me. She works in the belly of the beast. She was shocked to the core at the open BDS and hatred today.
BDS?
re: #137 Sharmuta
If the left ever experienced a true conservative news network, they'd shit their pants.
I'm not even sure PJTV counts - certainly there are those that think LGF, itself, isn't conservative enough, with its unending support for evolution, among other things.
556 | Marvo76 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:19:53pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
May I offer you my prayers for your family? It may not be much, but No matter the outcome, you have done well, and I hope this too shall pass...
557 | redc1c4 Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:23:48pm |
re: #107 Walter L. Newton
Not if this remark from his speech means anything...
"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
nothing he's ever said has meant anything..... why would he change now?
558 | Ben G. Hazi Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:24:57pm |
re: #101 experiencedtraveller
Slim's first business mistake...
No, his first business mistake was buying controlling interest in (now-defunct) CompUSA, which liquidated early last year.
As bad as they were sometimes, I still miss having a local place to get computer components that's of recent vintage that's not stratospherically expensive.
559 | nigella Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:25:37pm |
Walter, I too wish to offer my prayers. It is things like this which make us realize the importance of family, and friends, and the un-importance of Obama right now. God bless and keep your family
560 | outsidephilly Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:27:10pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
You're posting among friends, and we do care about any/all Lizards who may be having a rough go of it . . . . ,
I pray God will give y'all strength to get through this tough time, and I pray God will give the Doctors wisdom as they decide the best course of treatment. Please keep us updated on your son's well-being
561 | seannc Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:30:35pm |
He's a true gentleman and has exhibited nothing but class throughout his presidency. I will miss him and genuinely wish him the best.
562 | NomadOfNorad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:32:17pm |
re: #558 talon_262
No, his first business mistake was buying controlling interest in (now-defunct) CompUSA, which liquidated early last year.
As bad as they were sometimes, I still miss having a local place to get computer components that's of recent vintage that's not stratospherically expensive.
CompUSA is back, though... under new ownership. It's now part of TigerDirect.com, but doesn't have quite all the stuff at their stores that they used to. Still worth shopping at, however.
563 | David IV of Georgia Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:34:34pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
God is merciful. He often allows the nature of this world, disordered by sin and evil choices to follow its broken path even when that means afflicting the innocent and undeserving. He is merciful and looks for reasons to show, not monetary mercies or temporary good, but eternal blessings. When people suffer without cause, He notes their pain and suffering and remembers them for good. In popular culture, God is often portrayed as some monster looking to punish us in both this life and in the life to come. This is wrong. This is not the God of Abraham. This is not the teaching of Jesus nor His Apostles. While He punishes wrongdoing if He must, He is ever looking for reasons to bless us all. May God visit your son with His gracious and merciful love and grant him many years to come.
564 | Walter Cronanty Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:35:46pm |
re: #556 Marvo76
Thank you Marvo. And thank you for your prayers. As this is well and truly and dead thread, I will tell you of my doubts re: prayers, which is heresy for me, as I was raised a very fundamentalist protestant. IIRC the start of the greatest prayer, the "Our Father" as my Catholic, now Baptist [that's another story], second wife would call it, starts out: "Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done ...." Seems to me that many, including those doofuses selling prayer cloths on TV, forget that we are to pray that we accept God's will. That's a mighty tough prayer to pray.
565 | TheOtherCanadian Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:36:30pm |
re: #524 Walter Cronanty
I wish LGF had a monorail linking Lizards, cause I'd be on the next train to your place with a bottle of Slivovitz to keep you company. Truly, I hope your son recovers soon.
566 | Walter Cronanty Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:39:55pm |
567 | Walter Cronanty Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:44:12pm |
re: #566 Walter Cronanty
Don't know what "Slivovitz" is, but what the hey, I'm outta wine. Thank you.
568 | David IV of Georgia Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:50:04pm |
re: #567 Walter Cronanty
Don't know what "Slivovitz" is, but what the hey, I'm outta wine. Thank you.
Slivovitz, also known as Raki "rocky", is plum brandy. In the States it is usually 40%. In parts of Europe, it may be 80% or higher.
May you get well and be able to see your son without fear soon.
569 | notutopia Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:58:49pm |
re: #566 Walter Cronanty
Walter, My heartfelt prayers are being said for you, your sons and your wife. I hope your cold virus leaves your body soon, so you may visit your son.
God speed in his recovery and rebuilding his immunity and WBC count.
{walter}
570 | Whippet Tue, Jan 20, 2009 6:59:19pm |
We've missed you here in Texas President Bush. So glad you're home with us again. And as always, a class act.
571 | Walter Cronanty Tue, Jan 20, 2009 7:09:53pm |
572 | finallyhere Tue, Jan 20, 2009 7:18:50pm |
I know I am biased, but I liked Bush's speech much more, than Obama's.
573 | Archimedes Tue, Jan 20, 2009 7:24:47pm |
"The presidency was a joyous experience" Bush had a blast! I love that. All of his critics pounding him relentlessly, vilifying him ... critics in Hollywood, the main stream press, in music and around the world just ruthlessly pounding, pounding, pounding....
He had a "joyous experience!" hahahaha! god they must hate him more than ever!
574 | pbird Tue, Jan 20, 2009 8:00:48pm |
re: #573 Archimedes
"The presidency was a joyous experience" Bush had a blast! I love that. All of his critics pounding him relentlessly, vilifying him ... critics in Hollywood, the main stream press, in music and around the world just ruthlessly pounding, pounding, pounding....
He had a "joyous experience!" hahahaha! god they must hate him more than ever!
They absolutely can't understand him. And they hate that.
575 | hopperandadropper Tue, Jan 20, 2009 8:01:00pm |
Thanks, George, for working so hard to keep us safe. Welcome home.
576 | mjwsatx Tue, Jan 20, 2009 8:18:49pm |
I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as fast as I could. I wouldn't live back East with all those libs for all the tea in China. Texas is G-d's country. Welcome home Mr. Bush. Welcome back to Texas. We're glad and proud to have you home.
577 | Kaymad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 8:25:32pm |
I'm late to the party, but FOX showed most of the speech Bush gave. It was fairly long and that surprised me. My 19 year old daughter thought it was an excellent speech as I did. He looked relaxed, he was humorous, coherent, his speech wasn't stilted as it sometimes seemed in Washington.
He said he was going to write a book because he wanted people to know what it was like to sit in his chair and make the decisions he had to make. He is not a broken man, but he is someone conscious of what he is up against as far as getting his story out as opposed to having it written by people who hate and look down upon him.
578 | Kaymad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 8:29:04pm |
re: #576 mjwsatx
We just moved out of Texas to Indiana and baby it's cold! I'm beginning to regret the move. Texas winters spoiled me. The one and only thing I didn't like about Texas (besides 3 months of intense heat which you get use to) was the lack of trees. After living there for about 9 months we drove to Memphis and the lush greenness hit me and it was than I realized I'm a tree hugger! In a good way that is.
579 | mjwsatx Tue, Jan 20, 2009 8:34:32pm |
re: #566 Walter Cronanty
Walter,
I pray that G-d will grant you and your family the strength that you will need to get through this difficult time. The book When Bad Things Happen to Good People by Rabbi Kushner may help you.
580 | mjwsatx Tue, Jan 20, 2009 8:36:21pm |
re: #578 Kaymad
Parts of Indiana are gorgeous, but I'll trade the trees for the winters any day. I love Texas.
581 | DavidSweden Tue, Jan 20, 2009 8:46:10pm |
George W. Bush - The Liberator
"...free people will set the course of history." - George W. Bush
582 | Kaymad Tue, Jan 20, 2009 8:54:13pm |
re: #580 mjwsatx
I agree. Indiana is pretty if you like farms with large barns, gentle streams; plowed fields in the fall or big fields of corn in the summer. Nothing terribly flashy, but picturesque.... I don't like any of it snow covered though. It's 4 degrees here right now. Kind of balmy after the minus 19 of last week.
583 | Neo_ Tue, Jan 20, 2009 9:08:35pm |
I know there are only so many patriotic thing one can say, but I just caught Jon Stewart (The Daily Show) doing a ChangeFest 09 piece where he intermixes Obama's Inaugural speech with segments of Bush speeches where Bush is saying nearly the identical thing.
Obviously Obama has been hanging with Joe Biden too much.
584 | Amer-I-Can Wed, Jan 21, 2009 6:28:53am |
Welcome Home President Bush. It was an honor to serve your father, and an honor for my children to serve you. May G*d Bless you and keep you under his wing.
585 | derbigdog Wed, Jan 21, 2009 6:47:21am |
re: #23 Lincolntf
Exactly why he was so reviled by the Left.
Because he kept them out of the Oval office for 8 years. Forcing them to find "real jobs."
586 | redheadredstate Wed, Jan 21, 2009 8:54:29am |
re: #28 Cathypop
Have only lived in Texas for 12 years and have loved every day. Today for the first time I AM SO FRIGGIN PROUD TO CALL MYSELF A TEXAN. WOOHOO!
I'm from the D/FW area and Bush is moving in the neighborhood so to speak. We can't wait to welcome him home. He's a good man from a good state. I wasn't born in the great state of Texas but moved here with the folks when I was 3 (a loooong time ago) and have an accent as thick as Texas Bar-B-Que sauce. We're glad you love our state, we do too.
588 | Fionn MacCumhaill Thu, Jan 22, 2009 10:07:35pm |
re: #445 gregg
What's the story with Texas Governor Rick Perry (I know nothing about him other than seeing him during hurricane coverage)? Is he considered a possible presidential candidate?
Hard to tell. He has specifically denied any Presidential aspirations.
He has generated considerable opposition among Republicans. He was reelected in 2006, but one of his opponents was a Republican rebel running as an independent. She got about half as many votes as Perry did. This kind of 3rd-party politics could have easily handed the election to the Democrats, except that they did the same thing - there was a 4th-party Democrat rebel running as well. Perry won with about 39% of the vote in a 4-way race.