Overnight Hopen Thread

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Do as adversaries do in law, —
Strive mightily, but eat and drink as friends.

William Shakespeare, The Taming of the Shrew

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1 traderjoe9  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:23:16pm

I've read all his plays!

2 gmsc  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:23:33pm

The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers
William Shakespeare, Henry VI

3 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:23:49pm

Tommy Emmanuel - Classical Gas

4 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:24:29pm

With all this hopen registrations, it's nice to chagne things up a bit with the overnight hopen thread.

5 Erik The Red  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:24:38pm

Here's hopen that 44 makes less fuck up today then he did yesterday.

6 gmsc  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:24:47pm

re: #1 traderjoe9

I've read all his plays!

But can you recall them all and name them in 10 minutes?

7 Macker  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:25:42pm

But what about Change You Can Believe In™?

8 Sosigado  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:25:44pm

This is much better. Must have been the size of the last thread that was giving me probs.

9 itellu3times  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:26:00pm

What kind of oath will he take today?

10 traderjoe9  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:26:09pm
11 Rustler  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:26:48pm

re: #7 Macker
Thats the Change in your pocket.

13 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:27:49pm

re: #9 itellu3times

What kind of oath will he take today?

I swear to swear only twice at the oaf in office today.

14 Rustler  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:28:07pm

History Channel harping on the Masonic conspiracy behind the Dollar bill or maybe Foundation of the US.

15 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:28:22pm

And Elizabeth Taylor was perhaps the most lovely Katherina

16 gmsc  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:28:48pm

re: #10 traderjoe9

No...I am a failure...

Don't worry! Help is here! Just learn all the plays in 3 simple parts:

Shakespearean Mnemonics: Histories
Shakespearean Mnemonics: Tragedies
Shakespearean Mnemonics: Comedies

17 Erik The Red  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:29:08pm

Been waiting for the hopen thread to post this email I got today. The Aussies do have a good way of saying thing.

One thing about Australians is that their hearts and humour are always
in the right place!

T. B. Bechtel, a part-time City Councilman from Newcastle, NSW was
asked on a local live radio talk show,

just what he thought of the allegations of torture of the Iraqi prisoners.

His reply prompted his ejection from the studio, but to thunderous
applause from the audience.



HIS STATEMENT:

'If hooking up an Iraqi prisoner's nuts to a car's battery cables will
save just one Australians life, then I have just three things to say,'

'Red is positive, Black is negative, and Make sure his nuts are wet.'

18 HelloDare  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:29:16pm

I've been living in a cave for the last three years. What's this about some guy named Barack Obami or something like that?

19 gmsc  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:29:57pm

re: #12 jcm

Why when you have wiki?

Learn them for the challenge, and even the fun, of pushing and testing your own limits!

20 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:29:58pm

re: #14 Rustler

History Channel harping on the Masonic conspiracy behind the Dollar bill or maybe Foundation of the US.

Good, the Masons are only a front group for the Bilderberger, Illuminati, Trilateral Commission triumverate that is really running things for the zionist cabal. As long as they are distracted by the Mason front it's all good.

21 Rustler  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:29:59pm

The number 13 is their current harping since there are 13 normal degrees of masonry degrees 14-33 are special ranks. All the 13 numbers obviously have nothing to do with the origional 13 colonies.

22 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:30:30pm

"Asses are made to bear and so are you!"

23 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:30:47pm

re: #19 gmsc

Learn them for the challenge, and even the fun, of pushing and testing your own limits!

It's too late, I'm too tired...

24 gmsc  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:30:52pm

re: #18 HelloDare

I've been living in a cave for the last three years. What's this about some guy named Barack Obami or something like that?

The short version: Is there room enough for the rest of us in your cave?

25 zulubaby  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:32:53pm
26 Salem  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:33:15pm

I think Obama will probably be taking the oath in his nightmares for awhile.

"Oh no! Roberts had his fingers crossed this time!"

27 HelloDare  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:33:18pm

re: #24 gmsc

The short version: Is there room enough for the rest of us in your cave?

No, there isn't. A family of libertarian survivalists kicked me out on January 20.

28 BatGuano  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:33:50pm

re: #18 HelloDare

We are all try to figure that out. The MSM loves him but we are sitting here beside ourselves shrugging.

29 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:34:27pm

It strikes me that a Shakespeare play done classically as a film these days would likely be a flop for hollywood. Sad.

30 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:34:37pm

re: #14 Rustler

My paternal grandfather was a 33rd degree master Mason of the Scottish rite, and a welder in a steel mill. He must have missed the meeting about world domination.

31 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:34:41pm

re: #14 Rustler

History Channel harping on the Masonic conspiracy behind the Dollar bill or maybe Foundation of the US.

/relax, they're just taking a break from their 24/7 UFO programming

32 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:34:48pm

re: #18 HelloDare

I've been living in a cave for the last three years. What's this about some guy named Barack Obami or something like that?

Go back to the cave, don't come out for...

33 Sosigado  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:35:00pm

I heard a rumor that our new POTUS signed some executive orders today that he hadn't even been briefed on. Anyone else run across that?

34 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:35:28pm

re: #25 zulubaby

Cry me a River.

35 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:35:58pm

re: #29 Sharmuta

It strikes me that a Shakespeare play done classically as a film these days would likely be a flop for hollywood. Sad.

There have been some very well done Jane Austin movies / mini-series that have done well recently, not on the big screen too long be on DVD.

36 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:36:12pm

re: #34 Pvt Bin Jammin

Cry me a River.

Build be a bridge and get over it.

37 traderjoe9  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:36:31pm

re: #16 gmsc

Don't worry! Help is here! Just learn all the plays in 3 simple parts:

Shakespearean Mnemonics: Histories
Shakespearean Mnemonics: Tragedies
Shakespearean Mnemonics: Comedies

Thank you!

Knowledge is power!

38 Rustler  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:36:53pm

re: #31 Killian Bundy Yeah but I hate the way they try adding ulterior motives to George Washington. The man could have been King George but instead of being Monarch and having the country serve him he chose to serve the country.

39 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:37:08pm

re: #36 jcm

Build be a bridge and get over it.

LOL

40 Rustler  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:37:56pm

re: #33 Sosigado
///Was just stuff to counter Bush's EO's so what they said couldn't be that important.

41 Buster Bunny  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:38:24pm

re: #38 Rustler

Yeah but I hate the way they try adding ulterior motives to George Washington. The man could have been King George but instead of being Monarch and having the country serve him he chose to serve the country.

Thats where he differs and becomes a great man. When he takes the selfless step towards empowering the people.

Unlike mister 2nd Amendment .. mister O.

42 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:38:59pm

re: #35 jcm

There have been some very well done Jane Austin movies / mini-series that have done well recently, not on the big screen too long be on DVD.

Well- I was thinking of the re-worked Romeo and Juliette done in the 90s, but I have to wonder if even that would do well. If done according to the original script, I imagine most people would be wondering WTF these people are saying. It's unfortunate.

43 gmsc  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:39:57pm

re: #29 Sharmuta

It strikes me that a Shakespeare play done classically as a film these days would likely be a flop for hollywood. Sad.

That's because Hollywood couldn't leave them alone. Can you picture modern Shakespeare plays:

Taming of the Shrew: The story of Kate, a shrewish women feared by all men. Her shrewishness the result of . . . global warming!

Romeo and Juliet: The story of 2 young lovers, kept apart by familys that are feuding . . . over global warming!

Hamlet: The story of a Danish prince, tortured by . . . global warming!

44 gmsc  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:40:16pm

re: #37 traderjoe9

Thank you!

Knowledge is power!

You're welcome.

45 Rustler  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:40:35pm

re: #42 Sharmuta I saw a Romeo and Juliet play which tho using Modern Language stayed very true to the script. The recent movies where they tryed moderninzing the Language have done horrible jobs both of carry the proper point accross and staying true to the story.

46 Sosigado  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:42:07pm

Well, goodnight all. It's great to be a hatchling.

47 BatGuano  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:42:43pm

re: #29 Sharmuta
As usual , correct. In the early 50's , Julius Caesar was filmed starring James Mason as Brutus and Marlon Brando as Mark Antony. Could not be done today.

48 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:43:27pm

re: #45 Rustler

My HS director re-worked the scripts himself to make them more accessable to the audience of a HS play, yet retained a fair amount of the "why for"s and "hast thou"s. It can be done, I just doubt hollywood would make these movies today and I doubt they'd turn much of a profit.

49 gmsc  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:43:38pm

re: #42 Sharmuta

Well- I was thinking of the re-worked Romeo and Juliette done in the 90s, but I have to wonder if even that would do well. If done according to the original script, I imagine most people would be wondering WTF these people are saying. It's unfortunate.

The are some modernized Shakespearean works I think are classics in their own right.

For example, this particular take on "The Taming of the Shrew":

50 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:43:49pm

Hey guys...just checkin in'

Was the second day of Hope N' Change better than the first one?

51 gmsc  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:43:50pm

re: #46 Sosigado

Well, goodnight all. It's great to be a hatchling.

Goodnight.

52 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:44:11pm

re: #48 Sharmuta

PIMF- accessible.

53 BatGuano  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:44:12pm

re: #46 Sosigado

Please come back soon.

54 Buster Bunny  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:44:47pm

re: #43 gmsc

That's because Hollywood couldn't leave them alone. Can you picture modern Shakespeare plays:

Taming of the Shrew: The story of Kate, a shrewish women feared by all men. Her shrewishness the result of . . . global warming!

Romeo and Juliet: The story of 2 young lovers, kept apart by familys that are feuding . . . over global warming!

Hamlet: The story of a Danish prince, tortured by . . . global warming!

Modern Shakepeare plays.

The Ides of Gore - A play about a man who predicts the end of time itself .. by the 16th century.

Obamathello - Its about a black guy doing something. And there are several parts to it .. but whats it really about?

Midsummer Nights Mystery - Miss Marple investigates the death of a knight in strange circumstances. Sure Miss Marple is there, but she is burned as a witch later on.

Hope n Change - The story of two lovers from misbegotten Italian families feuding about who will reign over America supreme.

55 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:45:18pm

re: #17 Erik The Red

Been waiting for the hopen thread to post this email I got today. The Aussies do have a good way of saying thing.

One thing about Australians is that their hearts and humour are always
in the right place!

T. B. Bechtel, a part-time City Councilman from Newcastle, NSW was
asked on a local live radio talk show,

just what he thought of the allegations of torture of the Iraqi prisoners.

His reply prompted his ejection from the studio, but to thunderous
applause from the audience.


HIS STATEMENT:

'If hooking up an Iraqi prisoner's nuts to a car's battery cables will
save just one Australians life, then I have just three things to say,'

'Red is positive, Black is negative, and Make sure his nuts are wet.'

I'd love to hear the whole thing on tape...

56 HelloDare  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:46:16pm

re: #14 Rustler

History Channel harping on the Masonic conspiracy behind the Dollar bill or maybe Foundation of the US.

If you want the lowdown on the Masons, check the Hamas Charter. /

Article Seventeen:

The Muslim woman has a role no less important than that of the Muslim man in the battle of liberation. She is the maker of men. Her role in guiding and educating the new generations is great. The enemies have realised the importance of her role. They consider that if they are able to direct and bring her up they way they wish, far from Islam, they would have won the battle. That is why you find them giving these attempts constant attention through information campaigns, films, and the school curriculum, using for that purpose their lackeys who are infiltrated through Zionist organizations under various names and shapes, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, espionage groups and others, which are all nothing more than cells of subversion and saboteurs.

Article Twenty-Two:

For a long time, the enemies have been planning, skillfully and with precision, for the achievement of what they have attained. They took into consideration the causes affecting the current of events. They strived to amass great and substantive material wealth which they devoted to the realisation of their dream. With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there.

Article Twenty-Eight:

The Zionist invasion is a vicious invasion. It does not refrain from resorting to all methods, using all evil and contemptible ways to achieve its end. It relies greatly in its infiltration and espionage operations on the secret organizations it gave rise to, such as the Freemasons, The Rotary and Lions clubs, and other sabotage groups. All these organizations, whether secret or open, work in the interest of Zionism and according to its instructions. They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. It is behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion.

57 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:46:26pm

re: #46 Sosigado

Well, goodnight all. It's great to be a hatchling.

I am out too. Barely keeping my eyes open. See ya later. You will enjoy this blog.

Nite, Lizards, take care.

58 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:46:37pm

re: #49 gmsc

Those two just had a certain chemistry together that rivals those of many great duos of hollywood. I'd forgotten about that episode, but remembered it as soon as the embed opened without clicking play. Thanks.

59 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:49:14pm

Henry the Fifth Speech


60 Rustler  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:49:16pm

They finally had a historian come out and say the significance of the number 13's prevalance may have just been because of the colonies. This historian also called Conspiracy theorist ignorant of latin because of the translation of Novus Orco Securum as new secular order as opposed to New order of the Ages.

61 ArchangelMichael  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:49:56pm

re: #56 HelloDare

So the Freemasons are just self-subservient zionist honcos? I guess a lot of people here are members and didn't even know it.

62 Rustler  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:49:59pm

re: #50 TheMatrix31 Worse I think.

63 Erik The Red  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:50:01pm

re: #55 Dustyvet

I'd love to hear the whole thing on tape...

I will try to find it. Give me some time.

64 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:50:33pm

re: #42 Sharmuta

Well- I was thinking of the re-worked Romeo and Juliette done in the 90s, but I have to wonder if even that would do well. If done according to the original script, I imagine most people would be wondering WTF these people are saying. It's unfortunate.

Yes, I see your point. Well done Shakespeare can be riveting. There is a hard to find tape of The San Francisco ACT doing Taming of the Shrew with Meryl Strep before she made it big that's wonderful. It's just a tape of the stage play with no editing, but still excellent.

Part of it is I don't think that many actors have the skills to do the Bard justice.

65 Rustler  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:53:27pm

re: #64 jcm
Yeah but I think Sharm is more saying it couldn't happen in todays 2000's Hollywood. Even in hte 90's hollywood was able to to do the Classics somewhat as intended but no chance of it now.

66 HelloDare  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:53:34pm

re: #61 ArchangelMichael

So the Freemasons are just self-subservient zionist honcos? I guess a lot of people here are members and didn't even know it.

Freemasons are chumps. It's the Rotary Club members that hold the real power in this world. Them and the Quiznos Franchisees.

67 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:53:44pm

re: #62 Rustler

Worse I think.

What happened? I haven't been able to catch up on ANY news today. Could it be much worse than yesterday's suspending and closing Gitmo in a year, closing black sites, and opening up our money for people overseas to kill their babies?

68 stevieray  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:54:11pm

Cats are cruel.

I'm getting ready for bed, and I wanna check on her before I go to sleep... but I can't find her.

For half an hour, I've been looking everywhere... under the bed, inside the closets and cabinets, down in the basement... and she's nowhere to be found. I even checked outside, rustling through the shrubbery in my slippers and p.j.s... nothing!

I finally heard a sound... a tiny sneeze... and there she was. She tunneled under my dirty clothes, and was watching me through the slots in the laundry basket! Maybe that wasn't a sneeze at all... maybe that's how cats laugh...

69 Rob with a mind  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:54:18pm

A new lizard here! A very enthusiastic one! I am so grateful for the 1st amendment. I am so grateful for the 1st amendment. With that and access to LGF I will endeavor to persevere the next 4 years. It’s nice to interact with such a great group! We are Americans; The Best and Brightest. We will (with Gods grace) recover from this!

70 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:54:36pm

re: #63 Erik The Red

I will try to find it. Give me some time.

Okay thanks..

71 Buster Bunny  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:54:50pm

re: #66 HelloDare

Freemasons are chumps. It's the Rotary Club members that hold the real power in this world. Them and the Quiznos Franchisees.

Does this mean my Subway free sub card holds no political sway?

72 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:55:10pm

re: #64 jcm

Part of it is I don't think that many actors have the skills to do the Bard justice.

Indeed. Many stars of hollywood have never done theatrical acting at all. I do know Tom Hanks did extensive Shakespearean theater before his big break- he could pull it off.

73 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:55:23pm

re: #65 Rustler

Yeah but I think Sharm is more saying it couldn't happen in todays 2000's Hollywood. Even in hte 90's hollywood was able to to do the Classics somewhat as intended but no chance of it now.

You and Sharm are likely right.

I think there would be a market for it. But it probably won't be Hollyweird exploiting that market, some new upstart someplace.

74 Erik The Red  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:55:26pm

re: #55 Dustyvet

I'd love to hear the whole thing on tape...

Looks like it is an urban legend. Pity damn funny.
Fiction!

75 gmsc  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:55:35pm

re: #59 Dustyvet

Henry the Fifth Speech

[Video]

James Burke examines the history behind Henry V's life:

76 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:56:11pm

re: #68 stevieray

Cats are cruel.

I'm getting ready for bed, and I wanna check on her before I go to sleep... but I can't find her.

For half an hour, I've been looking everywhere... under the bed, inside the closets and cabinets, down in the basement... and she's nowhere to be found. I even checked outside, rustling through the shrubbery in my slippers and p.j.s... nothing!

I finally heard a sound... a tiny sneeze... and there she was. She tunneled under my dirty clothes, and was watching me through the slots in the laundry basket! Maybe that wasn't a sneeze at all... maybe that's how cats laugh...

Yup, she got you ...:) the little devil...:)

77 HelloDare  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:56:23pm

re: #71 Buster Bunny

Does this mean my Subway free sub card holds no political sway?

There's a computer chip in it. The Rotary Club knows your every move.

78 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:56:44pm

re: #69 Rob with a mind

A new lizard here! A very enthusiastic one! I am so grateful for the 1st amendment. I am so grateful for the 1st amendment. With that and access to LGF I will endeavor to persevere the next 4 years. It’s nice to interact with such a great group! We are Americans; The Best and Brightest. We will (with Gods grace) recover from this!

Welcome!

79 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:56:44pm

re: #69 Rob with a mind

Welcome and good luck. After this weeks events we need an enthusiasm transfusion.

80 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:57:16pm

re: #74 Erik The Red

Looks like it is an urban legend. Pity damn funny.
Fiction!

Dang it...:(

81 jcm  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:57:24pm

Nite all...

Reason and judgment are the qualities of a leader.
Tacitus

82 Sharmuta  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:59:46pm

re: #65 Rustler

Yeah but I think Sharm is more saying it couldn't happen in todays 2000's Hollywood. Even in hte 90's hollywood was able to to do the Classics somewhat as intended but no chance of it now.

I think gmsc is onto something- were hollywood to produce a Shakespeare play as a film now, they wouldn't be able to stop themselves from injecting today's politics into it.

83 Crux Australis  Thu, Jan 22, 2009 11:59:58pm

With Obama closing Gitmo and suspending charges against the detainees where does that leave Australia's two former detainees? Do they still retain their criminal records?

84 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:00:00am

re: #64 jcm
I saw "The Merchant of Venice" in San Francisco at the Geary Theater in 1972. Could Shylock have been played My Meryl Streep: He was acted by a woman

85 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:00:26am

re: #67 TheMatrix31
He signed the EO closing Gittmo yesterday the 22nd. he also signed an EO limiting the Powers of the CIA. 3rdly he came out supporting Abortion rights.

86 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:00:27am

re: #68 stevieray

I go through that daily with the toys.

/as soon as I can figure out a, cheap, unobtrusive after-market add-on for tracking cat toys, I'll be rich

87 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:00:49am

By the way- can the other lizards present come up with the name of some post 9/11 mainstream movies where the U.S. Military or Intelligence operatives are portrayed in a fairly positive light and confronting people who want to kill them that aren't part of some sort of shadowy neo-con cabal working to undermine them, if not outright garunteetheir silence by killing them?

Right now, I can only think of a couple, such as The Great Raid, Tears of the Sun or The Kingdom.

88 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:01:44am

re: #85 Rustler

He signed the EO closing Gittmo yesterday the 22nd. he also signed an EO limiting the Powers of the CIA. 3rdly he came out supporting Abortion rights.

Eh, nothing we didn't know already. Pathetic.

89 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:03:24am

re: #88 TheMatrix31

Yeah stuff we coulda said was coming he just put ink to paper on it fast. huffpo is mad because he only used EO's to close gittmo and limit CIA powers, and EO's can be Overturned.

90 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:04:13am

re: #82 Sharmuta

Today's Hollywood would have a whack job like Steven Soderberg directing it.

91 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:04:19am

re: #5 Erik The Red

Here's hopen that 44 makes less fuck up today then he did yesterday.

no way in hell that's happening...

st00pid is as st00pid does.

92 Mauser  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:04:45am

re: #75 gmsc

James Burke examines the history behind Henry V's life:

James Burke is my favorite historian. At least one user has every single thing he's done uploaded on YouTube.

Coincidentally, apparently DownloadHelper was the Add-On that was messing up my context menus in Firefox. A new version just came down that supposedly fixes that.

93 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:05:04am

Haha now History channel is talking about some "Vision" Washington had which showed him how to win the war and start the country. Washington never had it in any of his Papers it was only mentioned about 100 years after the revolutionary war.

94 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:05:37am

re: #86 Killian Bundy

I go through that daily with the toys.

/as soon as I can figure out a, cheap, unobtrusive after-market add-on for tracking cat toys, I'll be rich

I bought a ball that when bounced, it lights up and a lot of colors. Samantha The Brave took one look at it and hid. Wanted no part of it. The male cat I have now, fetches dum dum pops. Little sod got 300 of them for Christmas

95 stevieray  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:05:37am

re: #86 Killian Bundy

I go through that daily with the toys.

/as soon as I can figure out a, cheap, unobtrusive after-market add-on for tracking cat toys, I'll be rich

I buy her those little fluffy fuzzball things. She loves them... carries them around like they are kittens. I must've bought her two dozen of them... I can only find three.

She's gotta be flushing them when I'm at work... they aren't under anything, behind anything, inside of anything... they are just gone!

96 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:05:44am

re: #90 MrPaulRevere
I want to see a Tim Burton "Taming of the Shrew".

97 traderjoe9  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:07:02am

[Link: hotair.com...]

Think about that the next time you drive over a bridge.

98 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:07:32am

re: #92 Mauser

James Burke is my favorite historian. At least one user has every single thing he's done uploaded on YouTube.

Coincidentally, apparently DownloadHelper was the Add-On that was messing up my context menus in Firefox. A new version just came down that supposedly fixes that.

JamesBurkeFan was that user, and, alas, his account has been removed. However, as part of a compromise (and demand by fans!), a new official account, JamesBurkeWeb has taken it's place. All the original Day The Universe Changed and Connections I episodes are available and embeddable.

99 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:07:42am

re: #95 stevieray

I buy her those little fluffy fuzzball things. She loves them... carries them around like they are kittens. I must've bought her two dozen of them... I can only find three.

She's gotta be flushing them when I'm at work... they aren't under anything, behind anything, inside of anything... they are just gone!

Like socks. Put 10 in the drier and get only 7 out. Where the hell do they go?

100 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:07:57am

re: #90 MrPaulRevere

Today's Hollywood would have a whack job like Steven Soderberg directing it.

It couldn't all be global warming though. Like Hamlet- that would be prime for military-industrial complex, while MacBeth screams post-colonial imperialism.

101 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:08:39am

re: #100 Sharmuta
And their effects on Global warming.

102 Buster Bunny  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:08:46am

re: #83 Crux Australis

With Obama closing Gitmo and suspending charges against the detainees where does that leave Australia's two former detainees? Do they still retain their criminal records?

The 12 inch vinyls .. sure .. .. but anything Elvis .. noway.

103 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:09:16am

re: #99 Erik The Red

Like socks. Put 10 in the drier and get only 7 out. Where the hell do they go?

You put 10 in the washer. The dryer is a patsy!

104 stevieray  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:09:27am

re: #76 Dustyvet

Yup, she got you ...:) the little devil...:)

Well, I'll get her back!

No yummy tuna snax for her! Not until tomorrow for ten minutes! Well, okay... just a few.

105 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:09:28am

Comedy hour while all of you are still awake.

A family is at the dinner table. The son asks his father, 'Dad, how many
Kinds of boobs are there?'

The father, surprised, answers, 'Well, son, a woman goes through three
Phases. In her 20s, a woman's boobs are like melons, round and firm. In
Her 30s to 40s, they are like pears, still nice but hanging a bit. After
50, they are like onions'.
'Onions?'

'Yes, you see them and they make you cry.'

This infuriated his wife and daughter, so the daughter said, 'Mom, how
Many kinds of 'willies' are there?'

The mother, surprised, smiles and answers, 'Well dear, a man goes through
Three phases also. In his 20s, his willy is like an oak tree, mighty and
Hard. In his 30s and 40s, it is like a birch, flexible but reliable.
After his 50s, it is like a Christmas tree'.

'A Christmas tree?'
'Yes --- dead from the roots up and the balls are just for decoration.'

106 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:09:40am

re: #83 Crux Australis
Murtha will take em in and turn em out as whitehouse aides.

107 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:10:58am

re: #104 stevieray

Well, I'll get her back!

No yummy tuna snax for her! Not until tomorrow for ten minutes! Well, okay... just a few.

aww, give her a hug, a tummy rub. and an ear scratch...she loves you.:)

108 stevieray  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:11:16am

re: #99 Erik The Red

Like socks. Put 10 in the drier and get only 7 out. Where the hell do they go?

Ya got a cat? She's flushing them... I swear they do that!

They mess with your head!

109 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:11:16am

re: #105 Erik The Red
That doesn't work so well in this age of Implants and blue pills :P

110 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:11:21am

Puzzle time: What type of cheese is made backwards?

111 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:11:35am

re: #98 gmsc

Thank you, I bookmarked it.

112 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:11:48am

re: #17 Erik The Red

i regret that i can only plus that up one...

113 wiffersnapper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:11:51am

I haven't seen the Taming of the Shrew, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!

114 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:12:08am

re: #111 BatGuano

Thank you, I bookmarked it.

You're welcome.

Download them and convert them while you can!

115 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:13:51am

A Muslim was seated next to an Australian on a flight from London to
Melbourne.
After the plane was airborne, drink orders were taken.

The Aussie asked for a rum and coke, which was brought and placed before
him.
The flight attendant then asked the Muslim if he would like a drink.

He replied in disgust, "I'd rather be savagely raped by a dozen whores than
let liquor touch my lips."

The Aussie then handed his drink back to the attendant and said, "Me too. I
didn't realise we had a choice."

116 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:14:01am

Next on Presidential Prophesies did Lincoln foresee his Assassination. I may have to put History channel on ignore but it's so funny.

117 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:14:01am

If Obama were a character from a Shakespeare play, who would he be?

118 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:14:27am

re: #87 Fenway_Nation

By the way- can the other lizards present come up with the name of some post 9/11 mainstream movies where the U.S. Military or Intelligence operatives are portrayed in a fairly positive light and confronting people who want to kill them that aren't part of some sort of shadowy neo-con cabal working to undermine them, if not outright garunteetheir silence by killing them?

Right now, I can only think of a couple, such as The Great Raid, Tears of the Sun or The Kingdom.

those must have been an accident... last one i can think of was Patton.

119 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:14:44am

re: #113 wiffersnapper

I stuck part 1 of 14 in the spinoffs- part 2-14 are in the related bar of youtube.

120 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:14:44am

re: #115 Erik The Red
What airline is this sounds like a nice perk.

121 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:15:05am

re: #104 stevieray

Well, I'll get her back!

No yummy tuna snax for her! Not until tomorrow for ten minutes! Well, okay... just a few.

As I've explained here before, cats cannot pronounce the sound of the letter "N".
Hence " ME _OW!"

122 stevieray  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:15:09am

re: #110 gmsc

edam

123 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:15:31am

re: #29 Sharmuta

It strikes me that a Shakespeare play done classically as a film these days would likely be a flop for hollywood. Sad.

I don't know. Much Ado About Nothing was only about ten years ago, with Denzel Washington, and Emma Thompson, and the short guy who wasn't good enough for her. That did reasonably well, didn't it?

124 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:16:07am

re: #116 Rustler

Next on Presidential Prophesies did Lincoln foresee his Assassination. I may have to put History channel on ignore but it's so funny.

I've read that Lincoln had a dream and is supposed to have viewed himself in the casket. Beyond that i know nothing about the subject.

125 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:16:14am

re: #115 Erik The Red

Three strangers awaiting their flights strike up a conversation in the airport passenger lounge in Bozeman, Montana. One is an American Indian passing through from Lame Deer. Another is a Cowboy on his way to Billings for a livestock show. And the third is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived at Montana State University from the Middle East who is headed to a training conference in Detroit.

Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures. Soon, the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim who supports Osama Bin Laden's Jihad, so the conversation falls into an uneasy lull. The cowboy leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face. The wind outside is blowing tumbleweeds around, and the old windsock is flapping; but still . . . no plane comes.

Finally, ! the American Indian clears his throat and softly, he speaks, "At one time here, my people were many, but sadly, now we are few."

The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, "Once my people were few," he sneers, "and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?"

The Montana cowboy shifts his toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a drawl, "That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet, . . . but I do believe it's a-comin'."

126 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:16:15am

re: #117 BatGuano

If Obama were a character from a Shakespeare play, who would he be?

Thomas Becket, Archbishop of Canterbury - "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?"
;)

127 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:16:45am

re: #100 Sharmuta

I was raised on 'The sands of Iwo Jima' and Dirty Harry. I really cant relate to the Hollywood of the mushroom eaters and coke snorters. As a matter of fact I feel completely estranged from modern American culture.

128 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:18:23am

re: #108 stevieray

Ya got a cat? She's flushing them... I swear they do that!

They mess with your head!

Seriously, have you moved your refrigerator lately?

/just think, if you could just press a button on a remote and they'd beep or otherwise display their location, you'd save hours of crawling around, searching under furniture per week

129 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:18:44am

re: #124 Dustyvet

I've read that Lincoln had a dream and is supposed to have viewed himself in the casket. Beyond that i know nothing about the subject.

I always love the famous list of Lincoln/Kennedy coincidences that Martin Gardner created years ago:

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners.
Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named "Ford's".
Kennedy was shot in a car called "Lincoln - made by Ford Motor Co".

Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

Both John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

...and of course, the most startling coincidence:

One week before his assassination, Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland . . .

130 freetoken  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:19:20am

It is difficult to believe today's Hollywood could carry a truly serious rendition of the classics. Note that of late many of the serious dramas themselves are from indies (e.g. The Wrestler) that later get picked up by the big distribution houses once some acclaim comes in from the peers in the field.

Speaking of peers, I don't know any today who could do this:

131 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:19:33am

re: #117 BatGuano

If Obama were a character from a Shakespeare play, who would he be?

/Yorick

132 stevieray  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:19:42am

re: #107 Dustyvet

aww, give her a hug, a tummy rub. and an ear scratch...she loves you.:)

That's why I was looking for her in the first place.

Sigh.

I used to be a free man. I used to rule my world.

Now I step on squeeky toys on the way to the bathroom in the dark. They are ear piercing at 5:00 am! Heart attack causing!

133 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:19:43am

re: #43 gmsc

That's because Hollywood couldn't leave them alone. Can you picture modern Shakespeare plays:

Taming of the Shrew: The story of Kate, a shrewish women feared by all men. Her shrewishness the result of . . . global warming insensitive right to lifers who don't understand the need for abortions!

Romeo and Juliet: The story of 2 young lovers, kept apart by familys that are feuding . . . over global warming religion, he is a Christian and she a Muslim!

Hamlet: The story of a Danish prince, tortured by . . . global warming!

terrorists who want to stab him and pin a note to his chest for insulting Islam.

There, fixed that for you.

134 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:19:59am

re: #125 redc1c4
ROTFLMAO

THE PASTOR'S ASS

The pastor entered his donkey in a race and it won.

The pastor was so pleased with the donkey that he entered it in the
race again, and it won again.


The local paper read:


PASTOR'S ASS OUT FRONT.

The Bishop was so upset with this kind of publicity that he ordered the
pastor not to enter the donkey in another race.

The next day, the local paper headline read:


BISHOP SCRATCHES PASTOR'S ASS.

This was too much for the bishop, so he
ordered the pastor to get rid of the donkey.

The pastor decided to give it to a nun in a
nearby convent.

The local paper, hearing of the news, posted
the following headline the next day:


NUN HAS BEST ASS IN TOWN.

The bishop fainted.

He informed the nun that she would have to
get rid of the donkey, so
she sold it to a farmer for $10.

The next day the paper read:

NUN SELLS ASS FOR $10.

This was too much for the bishop, so he ordered the nun to buy back the
donkey and lead it to the plains where it could run wild.

The next day the headlines read:

NUN ANNOUNCES HER ASS IS WILD AND FREE.

The bishop was buried the next day.


The moral of the story is . . . being
concerned about public opinion can
bring you much grief and misery . . even shorten your life.


So be yourself and enjoy life.


Stop worrying about everyone else's ass and
you'll be a lot happier and live longer!

135 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:20:27am

re: #123 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't know. Much Ado About Nothing was only about ten years ago, with Denzel Washington, and Emma Thompson, and the short guy who wasn't good enough for her. That did reasonably well, didn't it?

I saw it and thought it was well done, but I doubt it made much money.

136 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:20:52am

re: #84 BatGuano

in San Francisco at the Geary Theater in 1972. Could Shylock have been played My Meryl Streep: He was acted by a woman

Wait, and didn't they do a new film version of "Merchant" a couple years ago? I remember a friend talking about the costuming.

137 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:20:57am

re: #122 stevieray

edam

Yep!

138 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:21:33am

re: #132 stevieray

That's why I was looking for her in the first place.

Sigh.

I used to be a free man. I used to rule my world.

Now I step on squeeky toys on the way to the bathroom in the dark. They are ear piercing at 5:00 am! Heart attack causing!

Ever step on the plastic one with the bell in it, at 3:00 am , bare foot...CRUNCH! Son of a b***...

139 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:21:55am

re: #129 gmsc
Your forgot to mention that kennedy enjoyed being in Marylynn Monroe :p

140 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:21:58am

re: #129 gmsc

Never saw that before- that is frickin' eerie!

141 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:22:04am

re: #117 BatGuano

If Obama were a character from a Shakespeare play, who would he be?


Bassanio from Merchant of Venice, talks a lot, but is of little consequence in the whole scheme of things.

142 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:22:20am

re: #117 BatGuano

If Obama were a character from a Shakespeare play, who would he be?

i'm not sure there's a shit bird in Shakespeare's writing...

which character is a complete and worthless asshole?

143 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:22:23am

re: #139 Rustler

Your forgot to mention that kennedy enjoyed being in Marylynn Monroe :p

I was trying to imply that with the last line.

144 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:23:44am

re: #140 Sharmuta

Never saw that before- that is frickin' eerie!

Yes, but Martin Gardner's point in assembling the list was that you could take any 2 famous people in history, and make just as long a list (if not longer) of coincidences.

145 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:23:48am

re: #143 gmsc

I was trying to imply that with the last line.

146 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:24:28am

re: #131 Killian Bundy

Geeez. I knew him. Not that there is anything wrong with that!

147 stevieray  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:25:12am

re: #128 Killian Bundy


Seriously, have you moved your refrigerator lately?

As a matter of fact, yes. I was stuck in the house for a snow day last week, and did a big housecleaning. I found two under there... that brought the total from one to three.

I steam-cleaned all of the carpets, so I moved all of the furniture. Nothing.

I really am at a loss to explain it. They really are gone!

148 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:25:50am

Was it McBeth who said: "Which dark sceptre doth haunt the midnight watch?"
I wonder if our President is now thinking of saying that about the embattled Illinois Governor?

149 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:25:57am

re: #115 Erik The Red

A Muslim was seated next to an Australian on a flight from London to
Melbourne.
After the plane was airborne, drink orders were taken.

The Aussie asked for a rum and coke, which was brought and placed before
him.
The flight attendant then asked the Muslim if he would like a drink.

He replied in disgust, "I'd rather be savagely raped by a dozen whores than
let liquor touch my lips."

The Aussie then handed his drink back to the attendant and said, "Me too. I
didn't realise we had a choice."

Oh. Dearie. Me.

150 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:26:20am

re: #147 stevieray

maybe your cat is trying to add fiber to his diet...

151 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:26:46am

re: #146 BatGuano

Geeez. I knew him. Not that there is anything wrong with that!

/a fellow of infinite jest

152 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:27:54am

Fertile Irish

Mrs. Donovan was walking down O'Connell Street in Dublin when she met up with Father Flaherty.

The Father said, 'Top O the mornin' to ye! Aren't ye Mrs. Donovan and didn't
I marry ye and yer hoosband 2 years ago?' She replied, 'Aye, that ye did,
Father.'
The Father asked, 'And be there any wee little ones yet?'
She replied, 'No, not yet, Father.'
The Father said, 'Well now, I'm going to Rome next week and I'll light a
candle for ye and yer hoosband.'
She replied, 'Oh, thank ye, Father.' They then parted ways.
Some years later they met again. The Father asked, 'Well now, Mrs. Donovan ,
how are ye these days?'
She replied, 'Oh, very well, Father!' The Father asked, 'And tell me, have
ye any wee ones yet?'
She replied, 'Oh yes, Father! Three sets of twins and 4 singles, 10 in all!'

The Father said, 'That's wonderful! How is yer loving hoosband doing?'
She replied, 'E's gone to Rome to blow out yer fookin' candle.'

153 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:28:29am

re: #136 SanFranciscoZionist
Actually Shylock's daughter, Portia played a man in the court scene to defend Antonio when Shylock demanded his pound of flesh.

It was quite interesting. It was the Merchant of Venice that made me love Shakespare.

154 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:29:17am

re: #148 shanec99

Was it McBeth who said: "Which dark sceptre doth haunt the midnight watch?"
I wonder if our President is now thinking of saying that about the embattled Illinois Governor?

If you're looking for Shakespearean insults, look no further . . .

155 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:30:03am

re: #141 shanec99

You mean " a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing" ? I know the type.

156 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:30:39am

re: #154 gmsc

I'm still pretty fond of "An ass was made to bear and so are you".

157 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:31:11am

re: #147 stevieray

I moved all of the furniture. Nothing.

/no you didn't or you'd have found them, they're there, I've found balls neatly tucked into the end cap of a baseboard heater, under the kitchen sink . . . much easier to find if you could get them to beep

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:31:27am

re: #153 shanec99

Actually Shylock's daughter, Portia played a man in the court scene to defend Antonio when Shylock demanded his pound of flesh.

It was quite interesting. It was the Merchant of Venice that made me love Shakespare.

Shylock's daughter is Jessica, Portia's the other one...innit?

159 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:31:52am

re: #115 Erik The Red

A Muslim was seated next to an Australian on a flight from London to
Melbourne.
After the plane was airborne, drink orders were taken.

The Aussie asked for a rum and coke, which was brought and placed before
him.
The flight attendant then asked the Muslim if he would like a drink.

He replied in disgust, "I'd rather be savagely raped by a dozen whores than
let liquor touch my lips."

The Aussie then handed his drink back to the attendant and said, "Me too. I
didn't realise we had a choice."

From what I hear being men raped by women is brutal, one report is about a man who had a thin glass rod inserted in his "pee pee" and he was stimulated until erect then the member was hit repeatedly to break the glass rod in several places. Talk about reconstructive surgery.

You know... if torture were allowed, that would be an approrpiate punishment for a terrorist.

160 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:32:28am

re: #156 Sharmuta

I'm still pretty fond of "An ass was made to bear and so are you".

I leak in your chimney!
;)

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:32:46am

But Portia is the one who dresses as an attorney.

162 stevieray  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:33:13am

re: #157 Killian Bundy

/no you didn't or you'd have found them, they're there, I've found balls neatly tucked into the end cap of a baseboard heater, under the kitchen sink . . . much easier to find if you could get them to beep

Well, break out your soldering gun, and get inventing!

163 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:33:18am

re: #148 shanec99

The embattled Governor might be asking, " Is this a dagger I see before me, handle toward my hand?'

164 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:34:43am

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist
I can't remember a Jessica in the Merchant of Venice... and I played Saliero in it.
Maybe in Jamaica, our version of Merchant of Venice were different than the one you read.

165 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:34:46am

Gawd. Shakespeare's one female Jewish character and we get Jessica. I mean, Shylock is a nutjob, but he's well drawn.

166 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:35:38am

re: #164 shanec99

I can't remember a Jessica in the Merchant of Venice... and I played Saliero in it.
Maybe in Jamaica, our version of Merchant of Venice were different than the one you read.

I don't know...anyone?

167 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:35:54am

re: #164 shanec99

I can't remember a Jessica in the Merchant of Venice... and I played Saliero in it.
Maybe in Jamaica, our version of Merchant of Venice were different than the one you read.

That's possible. Does the Merchant in your version sell carbon credits?

168 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:37:27am

Who was it that said "who will rid me of this mettlesome priest"? A classic line, one for the ages.

169 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:37:44am

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist

yes, Portia dressed as the attorney and defended Antonio after his ships were lost and Shylock demanded payment or his pound of flesh. I have since been told that this story demonstrates Shakespare's anti-semetism, but personally all it said to me that a greedy person (regardless of race) can take advantage of vulnerable people.

170 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:37:56am

re: #126 gmsc

Thomas Becket, Archbishop of Canterbury - "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?"
;)

re: #168 MrPaulRevere

Who was it that said "who will rid me of this mettlesome priest"? A classic line, one for the ages.

GMTA!

171 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:38:17am

Lesser of 2 evils

ALZHEIMER'S OR PARKINSON'S.
Which one would you rather have?


PARKINSON'S of course!


Better to spill half your drink than forget where the hell you put it!

172 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:38:56am

re: #168 MrPaulRevere

Who was it that said "who will rid me of this mettlesome priest"? A classic line, one for the ages.

That's Henry II about Thomas a Becket.

173 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:39:10am

re: #163 BatGuano

The embattled Governor might be asking, " Is this a dagger I see before me, handle toward my hand?'


Aha... yes Sir, you are not to be out done.

174 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:39:14am

re: #148 shanec99

Was it McBeth who said: "Which dark sceptre doth haunt the midnight watch?"
I wonder if our President is now thinking of saying that about the embattled Illinois Governor?

Juggy is too busy shitting his own pants to worry about anyone else...

i wish i had the White House cigarette smuggling concession: he's gonna smoke 'til he strokes.

175 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:39:49am

re: #155 BatGuano

You mean " a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing" ? I know the type.

Loose Change?

176 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:40:15am

re: #171 Erik The Red

Lesser of 2 evils

ALZHEIMER'S OR PARKINSON'S.
Which one would you rather have?

PARKINSON'S of course!

Better to spill half your drink than forget where the hell you put it!

Actually, forgetting where you put your drink would be everyday forgetfulness. Alzheimer's is more along the lines of having the drink in your hand, and forgetting what's in the glass.

177 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:40:22am

Men and Listening Skills

A man asked his wife what she'd like for her birthday.
'I'd love to be eight again' she replied.
On the morning of her birthday, he arose early and made her a bowl of
Coco Pops and jammy toasties!

He took her to Alton Towers and put her on every ride in the park:
* The Death Slide
* The Wall of Fear
* The Screaming Monster Roller Coaster

Five hours later she staggered out of the theme park. Her head was
reeling and her stomach felt upside down. Right away they journeyed to a
McDonalds where her loving husband ordered her a Happy Meal with extra
fries and a refreshing chocolate milk shake. Then it was off to the
movies: the latest Kiddies three hour epic cartoon, a hot dog, popcorn,
all the Coke she could drink, her favourite lolly and M&Ms. What a
fabulous adventure!

Finally she wobbled home with her husband and collapsed onto the bed
exhausted. He leaned over his precious wife with a big smile and
lovingly asked 'Well dear, what was it like being eight again?' Her eyes
slowly opened and her expression changed to one of total
realisation...'I meant my dress size, you twit. !

The moral of this story:
Even when a man is listening, he's still gonna get it wrong.

178 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:41:30am

re: #167 gmsc

That's possible. Does the Merchant in your version sell carbon credits?


Huh... I hope not. I would have failed if I had said something like that.

I was graded on Merchant of Venice in Literature at the GCE O Level. All my exams in Jamaica were graded by Cambridge University.

179 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:41:34am

"Tempt not a desperate man"

-Romeo and Juliette

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:41:53am

re: #169 shanec99

yes, Portia dressed as the attorney and defended Antonio after his ships were lost and Shylock demanded payment or his pound of flesh. I have since been told that this story demonstrates Shakespare's anti-semetism, but personally all it said to me that a greedy person (regardless of race) can take advantage of vulnerable people.

Shakespeare could hardly have not been an anti-Semite, given where and when he grew up, but he gives Shylock's greed and desire for revenge a context that creates a character with depth and dignity.

Erica Jong, of all people, created a novel around the plot of Merchant. It's hilarious.

181 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:42:46am

re: #172 SanFranciscoZionist

Thanks! That's what I love about LGF, its a very literate crew and I always learn something every day.

182 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:43:20am

re: #177 Erik The Red

I'm married. I know.

183 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:44:58am

re: #177 Erik The Red

Men and Listening Skills

A man asked his wife what she'd like for her birthday.
'I'd love to be eight again' she replied.
On the morning of her birthday, he arose early and made her a bowl of
Coco Pops and jammy toasties!

He took her to Alton Towers and put her on every ride in the park:
* The Death Slide
* The Wall of Fear
* The Screaming Monster Roller Coaster

Five hours later she staggered out of the theme park. Her head was
reeling and her stomach felt upside down. Right away they journeyed to a
McDonalds where her loving husband ordered her a Happy Meal with extra
fries and a refreshing chocolate milk shake. Then it was off to the
movies: the latest Kiddies three hour epic cartoon, a hot dog, popcorn,
all the Coke she could drink, her favourite lolly and M&Ms. What a
fabulous adventure!

Finally she wobbled home with her husband and collapsed onto the bed
exhausted. He leaned over his precious wife with a big smile and
lovingly asked 'Well dear, what was it like being eight again?' Her eyes
slowly opened and her expression changed to one of total
realisation...'I meant my dress size, you twit. !

The moral of this story:
Even when a man is listening, he's still gonna get it wrong.

The Man Song (NSFW):

The Woman Song (NSFW):

184 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:45:54am

re: #171 Erik The Red

Lesser of 2 evils

ALZHEIMER'S OR PARKINSON'S.
Which one would you rather have?

PARKINSON'S of course!

Better to spill half your drink than forget where the hell you put it!

Halfzimer's...

it's like Alzheimer's, except it only affects you part of the time.

185 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:46:27am

Ooopsie- forgot to go out and get my extra copies of the very special local papers of King Barry the Present's c0r0nation to sell at a later date for a higher mark-up.

What's the shelf-life for this particular brand of hope and change?

186 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:46:45am

re: #175 ArchangelMichael

No. Hopenchange.

187 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:49:06am

re: #182 BatGuano

I'm married. I know.

a man is not complete until he's finished.

then he's done. %-)

188 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:49:09am

re: #185 Fenway_Nation I was upsset I had decided while off work monday and tuesday that last night I would Take home all of sunday and mondays papers Sunday's had Obama's letter to his Daughter's and monday had 2 or 3 pages of Obummer luv. Came into work and they had tossed the leftovers in the dumpster. I had previously in the year started a pile for those of us with wood burning stoves which routinely got used but it had been warm last few days so papers were tossed.

189 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:49:32am

re: #181 MrPaulRevere

That is why I am here.

190 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:50:04am

Probably exists in multiple variations, but I just found this funny --

"Last week I was talking to the little girl who lives 2 houses down. She said she wanted to be President some day.Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there and I asked her, "If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?"She replied, "I'd give houses to all the homeless people.""Wow - what a worthy goal." I told her, "You don't have to wait until you're President to do that.You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and clean up my yard, and I'll pay you $50.Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 you worked for, to use toward a new house."She's only 6 so she had to think that over for a few seconds. As her Mom and Dad glared at me, she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"Then I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."Her folks still aren't talking to me."

191 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:50:27am

re: #181 MrPaulRevere

Thanks! That's what I love about LGF, its a very literate crew and I always learn something every day.

I know many weird facts, and enjoy sharing them around.

BTW, tradition said for centuries that Becket's mother was a Saracen princess. Tradition, apparently, was wrong, his mum was some girl named Matilda, from France. Very dull. Fun story, though.

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:51:46am

I have to go to bed. Life begins again in a matter of hours. Night, all.

193 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:52:41am

re: #190 TheMatrix31 There is another about a college age girl who works hard has a 4.0 takes hard classes but is liberal. Her friend parties all night barely comes to class has a 2.0. Someone asks her isn't it more fair that you both have a 3.0 shouldn't you spread the wealth on grades, she says no. His reply is "welcome to the Republican Party."

194 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:55:17am

re: #193 Rustler

There is another about a college age girl who works hard has a 4.0 takes hard classes but is liberal. Her friend parties all night barely comes to class has a 2.0. Someone asks her isn't it more fair that you both have a 3.0 shouldn't you spread the wealth on grades, she says no. His reply is "welcome to the Republican Party."

I like that one more than the one I just posted.

195 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:55:34am

No More Headaches

A woman comes home and tells her husband, "Remember those
headaches I've been having all these years? Well, they're gone."


"No more headaches?" the husband asks, "What happened?"

His wife replies, Margie referred me to a hypnotist. He told me To

Stand in front of a mirror, stare at myself and repeat

"I do not Have a Headache;
I do not have a headache,
I do not have a headache."


It Worked! The headaches are all gone."


The husband replies, "Well, that is wonderful."

His wife then says, "You know, you haven't been exactly a ball

Of Fire in the bedroom these last few years. Why don't you go see the

Hypnotist and see if he can do anything for that?"


The husband agrees to try it

Following his appointment, the husband comes home, rips off his

Clothes, picks up his wife and carries her into the bedroom.

He Puts her on The bed and says, "Don't move, I'll be right back." He goes
into The Bathroom and comes back. A few
minutes later and jumps into bed And makes Passionate love to his wife like
never before.
His wife says, "Boy, that was wonderful!"

The husband says, "Don't move! I will be right back." He goes

Back Into the bathroom, comes back and round two was even better than The
First time. The wife sits up and her head
is spinning.
Her husband again says, "Don't move, I'll be right back." With

That, He goes back in the bathroom.

This time, his wife quietly follows him and there, in the Bathroom,


She sees him standing at the mirror and saying,

"She's not my Wife.
She's Not my wife.
She's not my wife..."


His funeral service will be held on Friday.

196 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:55:52am

re: #190 TheMatrix31
You are lucky that the child's parents didn't scream at you for encouraging their child to exploit the less fortunate, and have you arrested for attempting to circumvent child labor laws.

197 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:57:17am

Several times in the past few days, there are people who have emplored anyone who hasn't done so yet to read Atlas Shrugged.

Here's an excellent adaption of John Galt's climactic speech from the book in 4 parts:

The other 3 parts can be found here.

198 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:58:39am

re: #195 Erik The Red
They found enough of him to bury? Damn... she was restrained.

199 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:58:52am

re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist

I have not read/seen that play in 35 years, but I came away with Shylock as a sympatheitc character.His mercenary nature balanced by his understanding of the perception of the jews by the gentiles.Shakespeare was ( as we all are) a product of his times. I will read it again.

200 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:59:30am

Last one for today(I think)

Gardening

A beautiful woman loved growing tomatoes, but couldn't seem to get her
tomatoes to turn red. One day, while taking a stroll, she came upon a
gentleman neighbor who had the most beautiful garden full of huge red
tomatoes. The woman asked the gentlemen, 'What do you do to get your
tomatoes so red?' The gentleman responded, 'Well, twice a day I stand in
front of my tomato garden naked in my trench coat and flash. My tomatoes
turn red from blushing so much.' Well, the woman was so impressed, she
decided to try doing the same thing to her tomato garden to see if it would
work. So twice a day for two weeks she flashed her garden hoping for the
best. One day the gentleman was passing by and asked the woman, 'By the way,
how did you make out?

Did your tomatoes turn red?' No', she replied, 'but my
cucumbers are enormous.'

201 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:01:54am

re: #200 Erik The Red
I heard a version of that... but it said ... where I planted cucumbers squashes have grown up instead.

202 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:02:57am

re: #190 TheMatrix31

I've read that before, but it's always good to post stuff like that again.

203 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:03:00am

re: #194 TheMatrix31
The full one is in one of hte older threads here somewhere.

204 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:06:11am

A young college girl named Sally went to her dad one day disgusted with the fact that he was a republican. She beraded him telling him to open his mind and see how the world was changing.

The father replied, How are your grades? Sally said that she has maintained a 4.0 GPA and works very hard for it. The father asked, How is you friend Julie doing? Sally replied that she is barely hanging on with a 2.0 GPA because she goes out and parties all the time and never studies.

The father replied, Why don't we take your 4.0 GPA and Julie's 2.0 GPA, divide it up and give you both 3.0 GPA's?

Julie replied loudly, That's Not fair! I worked hard for those grades while she was out partying!

The father replied, Welcome to the Republican Party.


---
Something like that.

205 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:07:06am

For those that don't understand football.

Football finally makes sense. A guy took his blonde girlfriend to her first
football game. They had great seats right behind their team's bench. After
the game, he asked her how she liked the experience.

"Oh, I really liked it," she replied, "especially the tight pants and all
the big muscles, but I just couldn't understand why they were killing each
other over 25 cents."

Dumbfounded, her date asked, "What do you mean?"

"Well, they flipped a coin. One team got it, and then for the rest of the
game, all they kept screaming was, 'Get the quarter back! Get the quarter
back!' I'm like, Hello-o-o? It's only 25 cents!"

206 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:07:38am

re: #187 redc1c4

a man is not complete until he's married finished.

then he's done finished. %-)

/same concept though

207 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:09:34am

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and was very much in favor of the redistribution of wealth.
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing ?" She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties, and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over."
Her wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, "That wouldn't be fair! I have worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, " Welcome to the Republican party."

---

"And now that you're a Republican, tell the Dean that he's got to work harder to make sure all the students like Audrey are testing at acceptable proficiency levels. If they're not, we'll take money away from the schools until they do -- oh, and he can't try to foist the blame off on the underperforming students, either."

From Snopes. Found it i suck at summerising sometimes

208 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:12:15am

Life and crime in South Africa.

In the United States of America they invented a machine that catches
thieves; they took it out to different countries for a test.

• USA, in 30 minutes it caught 500 thieves,
• India, in 20 minutes it caught 3000 thieves,
• Nigeria, in 10 minutes it caught 6000 thieves,
• South Africa, in 5 minutes the machine was stolen.

209 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:13:34am

For the longest time, I could never figure out why they called it the Internal Revenue Service.

Sure, I could understand "Internal" and "Revenue", but "Service"?!? Personally, I don't care for their services, and would rather do without them.

Then, just the other day, I overheard a farmer talking to his neighbor. He mentioned that he had a bull who was "servicing" a cow. I thought, "AHA! That's it! That's EXACTLY the context of how the word "Service" is used in "Internal Revenue Service"!

210 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:13:59am

This is true btw.
Law in South Africa

Two recent court cases, have earned the attention of newspaper readers in
South Africa

1. One person was fined R1 000 for not having a TV license.
2. Another was released on bail for R500 after being arrested for murder.

The moral of this South African story:

If you do not have a TV license and the inspector comes around, kill him!
You'll save R500.

It's the Right Thing To Do...

211 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:14:21am

re: #197 gmsc

Thank you. I will check out the other three parts tomorrow.

212 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:15:54am

re: #210 Erik The Red

This is true btw.
Law in South Africa

Two recent court cases, have earned the attention of newspaper readers in
South Africa

1. One person was fined R1 000 for not having a TV license.
2. Another was released on bail for R500 after being arrested for murder.

The moral of this South African story:

If you do not have a TV license and the inspector comes around, kill him!
You'll save R500.

It's the Right Thing To Do...

With an economy like that, it's sort of ironic to call their money "Rand".
;)

213 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:15:57am

DOW back under 8000 in premarket futures.

/thank you President Obama, may I have another?

214 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:16:12am

Afternoon Quickie

The only way to pull off a Sunday afternoon quickie with their 8 year-old
son in the apartment was to send him out on the balcony with a lollypop and
tell him to report on all the neighbourhood activities.
He began his commentary as his parents put their plan into operation:

'There's a car being towed from the parking lot', he shouted.
'An Ambulance just drove by.'
'Looks like the Anderson's have company', he called out.
'Matt's riding a new bike...'
'Looks like the Sanders are moving'
'Jason is on his skate board...'
After a few moments he announced, 'The Coopers are having sex!'

Startled, his Mother and Dad shot up in bed! Dad cautiously called out, 'How
do you know they are having sex?'
'Jimmy Cooper is standing on his balcony with a lollipop.'

215 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:16:28am

re: #208 Erik The Red
racist

216 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:17:54am

for Erik:
Good Morning, Admiral.
I appreciate you asking me here to give my side of the story, particularly
after the unfortunate, sensationalized accounts that came out in the
anti-military media.
First of all, I'd like to point out that my predecessor left me a real mess.
That ship was totally unsatisfactory when I took over, and the few months I had to correct things before the "incident" were far too short. I knew that whatever he had done before was totally wrong, since he came from the [redacted] community, and they're all a bunch of Bozo's.
Excuse me, Sir?... No, actually, I was not aware you were part of that
community...
Yes, Sir, I suppose I really should have checked that out before this
proceeding...
Yes, Sir, I'll move on in my discussion. As soon as we cleared the pier, I dismissed the tugs. I don't believe it looks good to imply that a ship that big needs any help from anybody. We headed down the channel, and I called for Ahead Full as soon as we were on initial course.
Yes, Admiral?...
Well, I learned early in flight training the importance of speed, the faster
the better. It seemed to make sense to apply the same principles in this
case, since going fast means you get past the potential problem spots
quicker. After we had spent a while in the channel, I could clearly see the open ocean ahead. Since we were already pointed in that direction, I ordered "Steady As She Goes". This caused a bit of commotion among some of the less decisive officers on the bridge, but I ignored them.
Sir?...Charts?...Well, I'm the Captain, not a chart checker. Anyway, some of those charts are ten years old, and they're full of guesswork and opinions. The water looked fine to me, at least the part I could see.
Anyway, as we headed out to sea, the Navigator started making a fuss, and the CIC people kept making annoying calls to the bridge. I had the CIC speakers turned off, and asked the Navigator what his problem was. He was agitated, quite undignified in my opinion. He kept poking a spot on the chart with his finger. To humor him, I took a look and saw that the chart showed a sand bar in our path. I assured him that my SUV plows through sand all the time with no problem, and a big old aircraft carrier shouldn't have any trouble with that sort of thing. Anyway, I certainly couldn't have ordered a course change, since that would shown a lack of resolve and confidence. A few minutes later, the speed on the pit log started to drop, so I ordered "All Ahead Flank" to make up the difference. However, due to the poor condition of the plant and the incompetence of the Engineer Officer, the ship continued to slow and eventually came to a stop.
Admiral?... Are you OK?... Can you still hear me with your head on the
table like that ?...I'll continue, Sir. I hope you feel better.
Once we had stopped, I knew I had to take decisive action. Since it would
have been bad for morale to admit to a mistake, I got on the 1MC and
announced to the crew that we had reached our destination. To make sure they bought the story, I ordered a steel beach picnic. It did seem a bit unusual only 2 hours after "shift colors", but no sailor is going to turn
down sliders on the flight deck. The Pork Chop did seem a bit irritated at
the short notice, but he was always a malcontent and not a team player.
The next day, the crew was getting a bit suspicious. The Signalmen were
happy, since we were still close enough for them to use the "Big Eyes" to
check out the beach, but I felt an increasing lack of confidence from the
rest of the crew. To deal with this, I sent the ship to General Quarters
and lit off all the weapons systems to keep the crew occupied. The
unfortunate accident with the CIWS and the Channel 5 NewsCopter was the result of the lack of fire control discipline by the Weapons Officer.
Sir?... Could I perhaps get you a glass of water?
TBC!

217 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:21:09am

re: #215 shanec99

racist

LOL.

218 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:21:26am

re: #213 Killian Bundy

DOW back under 8000 in premarket futures.

/thank you President Obama, may I have another?

glad you want it, 'cause you're sure gonna get it...

/and how!

219 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:22:28am

re: #217 Erik The Red
heh heh heh...

220 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:24:41am

Grandma and Grandpa were visiting
their kids overnight.

When Grandpa found a bottle of Viagra in
his son's medicine cabinet, he asked
about using one of the pills.

The son said, "I don't think you should
take one Dad; they're very strong
and very expensive."

"How much?" asked Grandpa.

"$10.00 a pill," Answered the son.

"I don't care," said Grandpa, "I'd still like to
try one, and before we leave in the
morning, I'll put the money
under the pillow."

Later the next morning, the son found
$110 under the pillow. He called
Grandpa and said, "I told
you each pill was
$10, not $110.

"I know," said Grandpa. "The
hundred is from Grandma!"

221 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:24:45am

re: #218 redc1c4

glad you want it, 'cause you're sure gonna get it...

/and how!


I quite simply to look at my monthly IRA statements. In fact I may just contact my advisor and ask that I receive no more statements until the DOW gets back to 14,000.

222 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:24:57am
223 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:25:05am

re: #208 Erik The Red

Life and crime in South Africa.

In the United States of America they invented a machine that catches
thieves; they took it out to different countries for a test.

• USA, in 30 minutes it caught 500 thieves,
• India, in 20 minutes it caught 3000 thieves,
• Nigeria, in 10 minutes it caught 6000 thieves,
• South Africa, in 5 minutes the machine was stolen.

y'all didn't it it to explode?

/yankee inginuity

224 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:27:17am

Sarcasm

A woman takes her 16-year-old daughter to the doctor.

The doctor says, "Okay, Mrs. Jones, what's the problem?"

The mother says, "It's my daughter, Debbie. She keeps getting these
cravings, she's putting on weight, and is sick most mornings."

The doctor gives Debbie a good examination, then turns to the mother and
says, "Well, I don't know how to tell you this, but your Debbie is pregnant
- about 4 months, would be my guess."

The mother says, "Pregnant?! She can't be, she has never ever been left
alone with a man! Have you Debbie?"

Debbie says, "No mother! I've never even kissed a man, I'm still a virgin!"

The doctor walked over to the window and just stood there staring out of it.


About five minutes pass and finally the mother says, "Is there something
wrong out there doctor?"

The doctor replies, "No, not really, it's just that the last time anything
like this happened, a star appeared in the east and three wise men came over
the hill. And there's no way I'm going to miss it this time!

225 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:27:20am

re: #213 Killian Bundy

Damn...I might be coming into some money soon...but where's the best place to keep whilst riding out the hopey-changey era?

226 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:28:30am

re: #225 Fenway_Nation

Damn...I might be coming into some money soon...but where's the best place to keep whilst riding out the hopey-changey era?

Galt's Gulch.

227 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:28:31am

re: #221 shanec99

I quite simply to look at my monthly IRA statements. In fact I may just contact my advisor and ask that I receive no more statements until the DOW gets back to 14,000.

are you sure you'll live that long?

Juggy's going down the FDR trail and that could kill the market for decades...

228 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:28:35am

re: #208 Erik The Red

Oh, Gawann! There has been no news out of South Africa since 1993! It is a paradise just as Zimbabwe is.

229 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:29:36am

re: #136 SanFranciscoZionist

I saw Al Pacino do the part of Shylock in "The Merchant of Venice". I can't say I loved his interpretation, but at least he interpreted it consistently. As for the rest of it, I enjoyed it. It's great that some actors still want to stretch themselves to do the classics.
It's usually the British trained actors that do justice to Shakespeare IMHO. The HBO version of "Rome" had great people playing Caesar, Cleopatra, Anthony, etc.

230 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:29:56am

re: #222 ploome hineni

The fact is that a man who wants to act virtuously in every way necessarily comes to grief among so many who are not virtuous.

Niccolo Machiavelli

...discuss

Nicollio was an optimist.

231 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:30:23am

re: #230 redc1c4

Nicollio was an optimist.

So was Murphy.

232 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:31:57am

re: #225 Fenway_Nation

Damn...I might be coming into some money soon...but where's the best place to keep whilst riding out the hopey-changey era?

Under your mattress.

233 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:33:43am

re: #232 Erik The Red


Umm...how's that working out for your Rand?

234 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:34:01am

re: #228 BatGuano

Oh, Gawann! There has been no news out of South Africa since 1993! It is a paradise just as Zimbabwe is.

No Zimbabwe is still the jewel of Africa. South Africa is slowly getting there though. Kinda like the rat in boiling water.

235 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:35:42am

re: #232 Erik The Red
I've found Jelly jars in hte backyard work better the mattress gets lumpy just holding enough to gas up the car.

236 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:36:05am

re: #234 Erik The Red

No Zimbabwe is still the jewel of Africa. South Africa is slowly getting there though. Kinda like the rat in boiling water.

That might explain the cholera outbreak...

237 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:38:18am

Heck. Did everybody go to sleep? Now I have to wait for the early bird crowd.

238 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:38:27am

re: #233 Fenway_Nation

Umm...how's that working out for your Rand?

Not well at all. Al my cash was taken out in Nov. 2007. About $160 000.00. I have about another $600 000.00 in assets house and business. The business is sold just waiting for transfer in about 60 days. House is a problem. The Rand has lost over 30% since Nov. 2007. So yeah I am not a happy camper at the moment.

239 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:39:10am

re: #231 gmsc

So was Murphy.

whereas i'm just experienced.

(beats the hell out of being cynical %-)

240 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:40:00am

re: #238 Erik The Red

Not well at all. Al my cash was taken out in Nov. 2007. About $160 000.00. I have about another $600 000.00 in assets house and business. The business is sold just waiting for transfer in about 60 days. House is a problem. The Rand has lost over 30% since Nov. 2007. So yeah I am not a happy camper at the moment.

wanna sell some guns?

241 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:40:25am

Do Men Remember Anniversaries?

A woman awakes during the night to find that her husband was not in their
bed.

She puts on her dressing gown and goes downstairs to look for him.

She finds him sitting at the kitchen table with a hot cup of coffee in front
of him. He appears to be in deep thought, just staring at the wall.

She watches as he wipes a tear from his eye and takes a sip of his coffee.

'What's the matter, dear?' she whispers as she steps into the room, 'Why are
you down here at this time of night?'

The husband looks up from his coffee, 'I am just remembering when we first
met 20 years ago and started dating. You were only 16. Do you remember back
then?' he says solemnly.

The wife is touched to tears thinking that her husband is so caring, so
sensitive.

'Yes, I do' she replies.

The husband pauses. The words were not coming easily.

'Do you remember when your father caught us in the back seat of my car?'

'Yes, I remember!' said the wife, lowering herself into a chair beside him.

The husband continues. 'Do you remember when he shoved the shotgun in my
face and said, 'Either you marry my daughter, or I will send you to jail for
20 years?'

'I remember that too' she replies softly.

He wipes another tear from his cheek and says...

'I would have been released today.'

242 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:41:36am

re: #237 yenta-fada

Heck. Did everybody go to sleep? Now I have to wait for the early bird crowd.

i thought it was "hello muda hello fada"?

/white smoke

243 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:43:33am

re: #238 Erik The Red

Not well at all. Al my cash was taken out in Nov. 2007. About $160 000.00. I have about another $600 000.00 in assets house and business. The business is sold just waiting for transfer in about 60 days. House is a problem. The Rand has lost over 30% since Nov. 2007. So yeah I am not a happy camper at the moment.

re: #240 redc1c4

wanna sell some guns?


Or some Krugerrands?

244 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:43:57am

re: #240 redc1c4

Sure come on over and get them. Most are going to mates if they can get the licenses for them. If not they will be destroyed. I am sad because most were bought before I got married and I probably only replace the shotgun, 1911 and maybe the AA .22(if I can't hide that one in the container)

245 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:43:58am

Back in London, I was having dinner in the Groucho Club— this week’s
in-spot for what’s left of Britain’s lit gritz and nouveau rock
riche—when one person started in on the Stars And Stripes. Eventually
he got, as the Europeans always do, to the part about “your country’s
never been invaded.”
(This fellow had been two during the Blitz, you see.)

“You don’t know the horror, the suffering. You think war is...”

I snapped.

“A John Wayne movie,” I said. "That’s what you were going to say,
wasn’t it? We think war is a John Wayne movie. We think life is a John
Wayne movie—with good guys and bad guys, as simple as that. Well, you
know something, Mister Limey Poofter? You’re right. And let me tell you
who those bad guys are. They’re us. WE BE BAD."

"We’re the baddest-ass sons of bitches that ever jogged in Reeboks.
We’re three-quarters grizzly bear and two-thirds car wreck and
descended from a stock market crash on our mother’s side. You take
your Germany, France and Spain, roll them all together and it
wouldn’t give us room to park our cars. We’re the big boys, Jack,
the original, giant, economy-sized, new and improved butt kickers
of all time. When we snort coke in Houston, people lose their hats in
Cap D’Antibes. And we’ve got an American Express card credit limit
higher than your piss-ant metric numbers go."

“You say our country’s never been invaded? You’re right, little buddy.
Because I’d like to see the needle-dicked foreigners who’d have the
guts to try. We drink napalm to get our hearts started in the morning.
A rape and a mugging is our way of saying ‘Cheerio.’ Hell can’t hold
our sock-hops. We walk taller, talk louder, spit further, fuck longer
and buy more things than you know the names of. I’d rather be a junkie
in a New York City jail than king, queen, and jack of all you Europeans.
We eat little countries like this for breakfast and shit them out
before lunch.”

Of course, the guy should have punched me. But this was Europe.
He just smiled his shabby, superior European smile.
(God, don’t these people have dentists?)

-- P.J. O’Rourke - “Holidays In Hell”

246 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:45:25am

re: #244 Erik The Red

Sure come on over and get them. Most are going to mates if they can get the licenses for them. If not they will be destroyed. I am sad because most were bought before I got married and I probably only replace the shotgun, 1911 and maybe the AA .22(if I can't hide that one in the container)

no importing them, eh?

much as i feared...

247 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:46:05am

re: #236 Fenway_Nation

There is no cholera outbreak in that part of the world, nor starvation, nor suffering. The colonialists have been expelled and Zimbabwe is not only the jewel of Africa, it is still the breadbasket and there are rats boiling for everyone. There is no disease or racism and don't even ask about friggin' sarc tags! Clear!

248 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:48:22am

re: #246 redc1c4

spiking the bowl tonite red? Might I suggest a full blown watermelon or would that be PCI?

249 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:48:41am

re: #247 BatGuano

There is no cholera outbreak in that part of the world, nor starvation, nor suffering. The colonialists have been expelled and Zimbabwe is not only the jewel of Africa, it is still the breadbasket and there are rats boiling for everyone. There is no disease or racism and don't even ask about friggin' sarc tags! Clear!

what do you want the paddles set at, or should we go for the default setting?

250 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:49:17am

re: #237 yenta-fada

I'm still here and I'm pissed.

251 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:49:41am

re: #247 BatGuano

There is no cholera outbreak in that part of the world, nor starvation, nor suffering. The colonialists have been expelled and Zimbabwe is not only the jewel of Africa, it is still the breadbasket and there are rats boiling for everyone. There is no disease or racism and don't even ask about friggin' sarc tags! Clear!


Robert Mugabe is like a ripe boil on the ass of Africa... painful, disgusting to look at and likely to stink while you are trying to get rid of it.

252 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:50:06am

re: #248 Mel Lono

spiking the bowl tonite red? Might I suggest a full blown watermelon or would that be PCI?

if you can blow a watermelon, i'll just shoot the video and we'll both be rich.

/white smoke

253 nightwatch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:51:07am

Just got back from seeing Clint Eastwood's new offering...

Asking for "Forgiveness?"...

254 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:52:09am
255 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:52:20am

re: #252 redc1c4

and PJ should have been the Poet Laurette.

256 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:52:25am

re: #246 redc1c4

no importing them, eh?

much as i feared...

Not worth the hassle. To be honest the guns are not worth that much. The amount of ammo. is and that I will just give away. I will be drunk for weeks when I give to the boys.

257 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:53:32am

re: #249 redc1c4

Was that over the top? Let me back off. I'm ok now: no need for intervention. If I offended anyone, I'm probably not sorry... but I apologize.

258 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:53:46am

re: #247 BatGuano

There is no cholera outbreak in that part of the world, nor starvation, nor suffering. The colonialists have been expelled and Zimbabwe is not only the jewel of Africa, it is still the breadbasket and there are rats boiling for everyone. There is no disease or racism and don't even ask about friggin' sarc tags! Clear!

That about sums up the quality of leadership in Africa.

259 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:53:53am

re: #253 nightwatch

Just got back from seeing Clint Eastwood's new offering...

Asking for "Forgiveness?"...

dunno 'bout that, but hollywood skipping him from *any* oscar nominations on that movie is the final nail in a well hammered coffin for me.

FUCK THEM.>

BEST
MOVIE
IN
YEARS

260 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:54:51am

re: #254 ploome hineni

where to put your money?

fixed rated government bonds

these series I bonds seem to be good...but it really depends on how much money you have

[Link: www.bestcashcow.com...]

Ah...I have some of those and some series EE ones from last year (when the interest rates were much better).

261 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:55:59am

re: #257 BatGuano

Was that over the top? Let me back off. I'm ok now: no need for intervention. If I offended anyone, I'm probably not sorry... but I apologize.

Not OTT. I'd say spot on.

262 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:56:11am

Alas, I'm drifting off, and will say good night.

Good night, lizards - old and new!

263 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:56:28am

re: #257 BatGuano

Was that over the top? Let me back off. I'm ok now: no need for intervention. If I offended anyone, I'm probably not sorry... but I apologize.

no dude: you ended the statement with "clear", which is what you say when you're going to shock a CPR patient... so everyone gets away and doesn't get zapped.

i was having fun with what you said. chill out.

264 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:56:31am

re: #259 redc1c4

no shit? They passed on Clint? i'm OOTL. Is the mick in?

265 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:56:43am

re: #262 gmsc

Alas, I'm drifting off, and will say good night.

Good night, lizards - old and new!

Night gmsc

266 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:56:50am

re: #250 BatGuano

If I'm going to face four years of the "One", I'm going to need much better drugs. It's hard to mellow out when things don't make sense anymore.

267 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:57:33am
268 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:59:13am

re: #254 ploome hineni

where to put your money?

fixed rated government bonds

these series I bonds seem to be good...but it really depends on how much money you have

[Link: www.bestcashcow.com...]

most of my money i spent on women and whisky.

the rest i wasted.

269 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:59:35am

re: #267 ploome hineni

I also had some money in a 12-month CD that was paying a 5% APY- it won't mature until April, and I kinda doubt I'd see anything close to that when it does mature...

270 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:00:00am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

271 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:00:03am

For his birthday Little Matt asked for a 10-speed bicycle.
His father said, "Son, we'd give you one, but the bond on this House is R680
000.00 and your mother just lost her job. There's no way We can afford it."

The next day the father saw Little Matt heading out the front door
With a suitcase. So he asked, "Son, where are you going?"

Little Matt told him, "I was walking past your room last night and I
Heard you tell mum you were pulling out. Then I heard her tell you
To wait because she was coming too. And I'll be damned if I'm
staying here by myself with an R680 000.00 bond and no Fucking Bike

272 nightwatch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:00:20am

re: #259 redc1c4

Maybe there are some still remaining who see the new CIC with something akin to...caution?

273 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:00:21am

re: #269 Fenway_Nation You will Inflation will just have devalued the dollar by 10% by then so you still lose.

274 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:00:40am

w00t! :-)

/if only I could transfer that luck to the Powerball...

275 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:00:42am

THe fruitcup dividend.

276 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:00:45am

re: #270 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Thanks lol. Top of The Morning to You.

277 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:00:57am

re: #270 littleoldlady

morning maam, been busy.

278 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:01:17am

re: #249 redc1c4

Yeah, that should have been an emphatic question mark instead of an exclamation point. But I am steamed about that part of the world. I am calming down a little bit, but I could go again off at any time.

279 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:01:25am

re: #266 yenta-fada

If I'm going to face four years of the "One", I'm going to need much better drugs. It's hard to mellow out when things don't make sense anymore.

have some of my fruitcup... things will be much better.

/ask LoL %-)

280 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:02:07am

re: #254 ploome hineni

May I again make the humble suggestion that the acquisition of real gold and silver will mitigate the effects of the coming inflation. They have been preserving my 'wealth' for eight years now, and doing a good job of it. Obama's economic team has no choice but to flood the world with dollars. They might even buy back their own treasury bonds if the dollar devalues and other nations shun U.S. debt. Gold; serving humanity for around five thousand years. Currencies are competitively devaluing. Those economic stimulus package have to come from somewhere, don't they?

281 nightwatch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:02:16am

re: #265 Erik The Red

Good Night and sleep the sleep of Kings...:)

282 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:02:21am

re: #279 redc1c4 Just be careful around flashing lights and bright colors after eatting reds fruitcup.

283 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:03:05am

Fenway! :-)

Erik! :-)

Mel!

red! :-)

284 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:03:26am

re: #258 Erik The Red

That about sums up the quality of leadership in Africa.

you are wrong... there are places in Africa where the leadership is just and free of corruption.
Take Djibouti, no wars with her neighbors. Despite big ethnic divisions caused civil war in the 70s... the Djiboutians tired of it and stop fightinging a does or so people died. Democratic government, Churches next to Mosques, poor but growing economy, passed laws to make FGM a crime, hosts American, German and French military.
Comoros, democratic nation, free press, Muslim, no Sharia law, free parliment, schools, no wars with neighbors, peaceful transition of power, one Vice President wanted power, they kicked him out.
These are tiny nations, but in Africa, there is a movement that is enlightened and are making the transition towards market economies and enlightened leadership. So there is hope... maybe the large countries can learn from the leaders of small nations.

285 nightwatch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:03:53am

re: #270 littleoldlady

Can we have tapioca on special nights?

Just asking...

286 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:05:03am

re: #282 Rustler

Tee hee. giggle. snort. snarf. cackle.

287 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:05:28am
288 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:05:42am

re: #285 nightwatch

nightwatch! :-)

I happen to have some rice pudding here. Will that do?

289 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:05:57am

re: #272 nightwatch

Maybe there are some still remaining who see the new CIC with something akin to...caution?

i couldn't say:
it's hard to see watery shit when you're looking out a jaundiced eye.

290 nightwatch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:06:35am

re: #288 littleoldlady

291 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:06:39am

re: #288 littleoldlady

Rice pudding! Powerful comfort food.

292 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:07:30am

re: #263 redc1c4re: #263 redc1c4

I know. I was just in my idiom (see Monty Python's the Holy Grail). Someone once said , " Oh judgment, thou art fled to brutish beasts and men have lost there reason." That was either me or Shakespeare.

293 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:08:12am
294 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:08:24am

re: #291 yenta-fada

Rice pudding! Powerful comfort food.

Yeah. I've been partaking of it a lot lately.

/which is why I look so "comfortable" all of a sudden...

;-)

295 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:08:28am

re: #285 nightwatch

re: #289 redc1c4

I liked Glen Beck's comment best.

He's my President. I will support him when I can and oppose him when I should.
296 nightwatch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:08:39am

re: #288 littleoldlady

Messed the last entry...

Yes, your the best!

297 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:08:51am

re: #270 littleoldlady

Thanks!

298 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:09:18am

re: #266 yenta-fada

Ain't it the truth?

299 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:09:21am
300 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:09:26am

re: #274 littleoldlady

w00t! :-)

/if only I could transfer that luck to the Powerball...

you can...

1 dollar at a time.

301 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:10:45am

Sharmuta! :-)

302 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:10:55am

re: #284 shanec99

you are wrong... there are places in Africa where the leadership is just and free of corruption.
Take Djibouti, no wars with her neighbors. Despite big ethnic divisions caused civil war in the 70s... the Djiboutians tired of it and stop fightinging a does or so people died. Democratic government, Churches next to Mosques, poor but growing economy, passed laws to make FGM a crime, hosts American, German and French military.
Comoros, democratic nation, free press, Muslim, no Sharia law, free parliment, schools, no wars with neighbors, peaceful transition of power, one Vice President wanted power, they kicked him out.
These are tiny nations, but in Africa, there is a movement that is enlightened and are making the transition towards market economies and enlightened leadership. So there is hope... maybe the large countries can learn from the leaders of small nations.

either that or they will crush them for giving a bad example.

303 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:11:15am

(Is gmsc here?)

gmsc! :-)

304 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:11:38am

re: #287 ploome hineni

The dollar is a debt instrument. A promise to pay, backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. government. Am I making a case for hard assets yet. Do you have faith in the current government that is acting like Gyro Gearloose everyday? Not I. Just give a little thought to an asset that is liquid and not based on someone's liability. p.s. I keep trying to store chocolate, but I eat it everytime.

305 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:11:42am

re: #299 ploome hineni

He's still alive after walking the gauntlet.

306 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:12:41am

re: #284 shanec99

you are wrong... there are places in Africa where the leadership is just and free of corruption.
Take Djibouti, no wars with her neighbors. Despite big ethnic divisions caused civil war in the 70s... the Djiboutians tired of it and stop fightinging a does or so people died. Democratic government, Churches next to Mosques, poor but growing economy, passed laws to make FGM a crime, hosts American, German and French military.
Comoros, democratic nation, free press, Muslim, no Sharia law, free parliment, schools, no wars with neighbors, peaceful transition of power, one Vice President wanted power, they kicked him out.
These are tiny nations, but in Africa, there is a movement that is enlightened and are making the transition towards market economies and enlightened leadership. So there is hope... maybe the large countries can learn from the leaders of small nations.

Shane99 make no mistake there is some beacons of hope for Africa. It's the power houses of Africa that are doing very little to improve the welfare of the people. Maybe I am looking at it through European, first world eyes but Africa does not have a great track record.

Kim put it pretty well into words. Maybe a bit harsh but pretty much spot on.

Let Africa Sink

307 nightwatch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:12:54am

re: #295 Mel Lono
Well then it is time to CLEAR the board so to speak. We will need the full score card free of pencil marks and chewed edges to keep track of what is going into play over the next 100 days.

I pray I am very wrong.

308 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:13:46am

re: #280 yenta-fada


A friend of mine who day-trades (but not in precious metals) showed me a speculative chart he made for gold prices a few weeks ago. He's not following the actual market price of gold, but rather an ETF that mimics the price of gold at what I think is a 11:1 ratio [NYSE: GLD]- not to be confused with the one that follows the movement of gold mining companies [NYSE: GDX]. Based on the chart he cobbled together, he's expecting some heavy-duty movement on 1/23...although gold went up nearly $30 an ounce on innauguration day alone.

309 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:14:01am

re: #301 littleoldlady

I spoke with a lady friend of mine yesterday about the election and American misogyny, and she agreed with us. So our little band is up to 3. Woohoo!

310 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:14:32am

re: #293 ploome hineni

Buy some silver then. It is dirt cheap, and because it is (unlike gold) used largely as an industrial metal, it gets used up. Most of the gold that has ever been found still exists, although it has been refined and put to different uses like coins and jewelry. People made it through hard times with the 'family jewels'. Look at the Russian aristocracy during the revolution, people who escaped wars with coins sewn in their clothing. It allowed them to rebuild their lives.

311 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:15:03am

re: #307 nightwatch

Someone else said it's a new chess game and we're playing black. Your move.

312 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:15:48am

re: #295 Mel Lono

re: #289 redc1c4

I liked Glen Beck's comment best.

you're a better man than me, but then again, i was only enlisted scum to begin with.

(undoubtedly deleted comment goes here)

313 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:16:47am

re: #309 Sharmuta

I spoke with a lady friend of mine yesterday about the election and American misogyny, and she agreed with us. So our little band is up to 3. Woohoo!

Add MNTS.

/and she's p*ssed enough to count as TWO!
//The Merry Band of Angry Ladies

314 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:17:39am

re: #299 ploome hineni

what has Nobama done in the past 2 day, we can support?

he still, from all accounts, inhales air.

/low expectations = low disapointments

315 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:18:11am
316 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:18:35am

re: #312 redc1c4

My CIC was Jimmy Carter. I had to salute him too.

317 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:18:52am

re: #313 littleoldlady

Add MNTS.

/and she's p*ssed enough to count as TWO!
//The Merry Band of Angry Ladies

Mad as hell and we're not going to take this anymore!

318 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:19:20am
319 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:20:02am
320 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:20:21am

re: #251 shanec99


Ed Zachary! And you can't get rid of it!

321 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:20:47am

re: #308 Fenway_Nation

I'm not a fan of the ETFs for precious metals. Yes, they are highly leveraged and do very well when gold goes up. However, they are made up of derivatives, and, as such are inherently risky with hedge funds and banks going splodey dope at inconvenient times. I feel safer with the real thing, not the paper promise. A good trader can make money with ETFs, but I'm not a professional. Did you think that the financial system would look like this from the perspective of last January. Are you willing to make bets on how next January will look. Everything has some risk attached, but I prefer the one that lets me sleep better at night. Except for tonight, of course, when nothing is helping me sleep!

322 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:21:14am
323 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:22:04am

re: #316 Mel Lono

My CIC was Jimmy Carter. I had to salute him too.

duty is duty. you saluted the CinC... as we were supposed to.

i'm just lucky my first was Reagan.

324 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:22:09am

re: #270 littleoldlady

A belated thank you!

325 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:23:08am

re: #319 ploome hineni

not every question is a joke

that all depends upon how you look at them...

326 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:23:18am

BatGuano! :-)

327 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:23:51am

re: #318 ploome hineni

then ask a question. It's called the Socratic method. You ask a question, I answer with a question, and we get nowhere. Except for the opportunity to ask more questions.

328 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:24:18am

Only at LGF could you get a nice little old lady smiling at bat poop.

329 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:24:42am

re: #306 Erik The Red
The corrupt nations will eventually burn themselves out, the stable little nations will grow and begin to exercise more influence.
Djibouti a nation of less than 1 million people has a democratic government, and is the center of the efforts to stop the lawlessness in Somalia a far larger nation where the Islamists and tribalists are destroying hope.
Large nations like Egypt, Nigeria, South Africa and Ethiopia are dealing with their own complex problems.
Congo, Zimbabwe and Liberia are having a difficult time managing themselves.
So it is left to enlightened leaders in tiny African nations like Mauritius, Djibouti and Comoros who have come to grips with the problems of multi ethnic divisions, religion and poverty to teach the large nations how to share power, fight disease and behave responsibly to their citizens and community of nations. These tiny nations have to show others that viable societies can emerge from the corruption that is ubiquitous throughout continental Africa.

330 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:25:23am
331 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:25:54am
332 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:26:01am

DOW futures steadily plummeting, down over 200.

/not seeing any specific news causing it other than possibly Obama panic

333 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:26:03am

re: #319 ploome hineni

not every question is a joke

you came into the tread after endless bad jokes. It take some time to get out of our juvenile minds.

334 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:26:29am

re: #328 Sharmuta

Only at LGF could you get a nice little old lady smiling at bat poop.

VEH IZ MIR! What have I DONE?!

;-)

335 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:27:09am

re: #307 nightwatch

Well then it is time to CLEAR the board so to speak. We will need the full score card free of pencil marks and chewed edges to keep track of what is going into play over the next 100 days.

I pray I am very wrong.

don't bother: we're screwed and blued but there's no ink for tattoos.

336 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:27:48am

re: #299 ploome hineni
Went to bed. Told the media(politico) he wasn't there to answer questions.

337 nightwatch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:28:28am

re: #311 Mel Lono

Not a pun my friend...maybe a Trojan Horse slipped through the tunnel below the Senate and Congress.
"Transparent" is nothing more than a campaign bullet point.

338 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:28:45am

re: #321 yenta-fada

I already have some silver and gold assets (the actual metal, nothing paper), but it never hurts to have a little more. I can't help but shake the feeling I missed a prime opportunity to get my hands on some platinum, but then again, when the market prices for gold, silver, platinum and palladium were at their lowest last year, I couldn't find anyone selling the actual metals (aside from places that had the 100 oz bricks or whatever).

I was kinda hoping with the economy the way it is and the industrial applications of gold, silver and platinum that the price would continue to trend downwards some more. But then again, I'm clearly not the only one to have considered these metals as a safe haven.

339 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:28:57am

re: #333 Erik The Red

you came into the tread after endless bad jokes. It take some time to get out of our juvenile minds.

or into his... %-)

/every child is different

340 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:29:13am
341 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:29:52am

Apparently a 22 year old Virgin is selling her Virginity. Doesn't that amount to prostitution or is that legal on Ebay?

342 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:30:52am

re: #330 ploome hineni

Yep. Gold goes up and down and nobody knows when it will do either. In 2000, gold was $275 an ounce. Today it boings around between 700 and 900 an ounce. Still a pretty good overall return. Guess who is buying when the price goes down? The Chinese, the Arabs, the Russians, the rich Europeans. The refineries are going night and day in Switzerland, and there are no more safety boxes available for rent there. Americans are being outright discouraged from buying gold because the policy since Robert Rubin has been to keep the dollar as strong as possible by any means necessary. Not so great if you want other countries to buy what you have to sell to keep a balance of trade.

343 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:31:12am

re: #328 Sharmuta

Tre: #328 Sharmuta

That's colonel bat poop. Geeez.

344 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:31:22am

re: #341 Rustler

Apparently a 22 year old Virgin is selling her Virginity. Doesn't that amount to prostitution or is that legal on Ebay?


She is selling it in Nevada, entirely legal.
Her advertising it on Ebay... well that is freedom of speech.

345 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:31:54am

re: #320 BatGuano

Ed Zachary! And you can't get rid of it!

Zachary All?

346 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:31:55am

re: #340 ploome hineni

I did as a question

you gave a flippant answer, and now apedantic condescending answer

forget about it

Hey ploome did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Chill we we all just assing around on this Friday morning.

347 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:32:21am

re: #344 shanec99

There is no freedom of speech on ebay.

348 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:32:46am

re: #340 ploome hineni

I did as a question

you gave a flippant answer, and now apedantic condescending answer

forget about it

welcome to the LNDT...

white smoke?

349 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:33:00am

re: #338 Fenway_Nation

I'm clearly not the only one to have considered these metals as a safe haven.

/worthless in a total economic collapse, can't eat it and it's too heavy to tote around anyway

350 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:33:03am
A 22-year-old woman is selling her virginity online — offering her body to bidders nationwide in an auction that reportedly has netted a $3.7 million offer — and the law isn't doing a thing to stop her.

Wow 3.7 million will buy a lot of education.

351 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:33:51am

re: #310 yenta-fada

Goldshlager shots on me!

352 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:34:19am

re: #332 Killian Bundy

Dow just might be plunging because the banking system is still not lending to people with viable businesses and real estate. They also have a ton of toxic assets that nobody knows what to do with. The financial instability plus a constant loss of jobs are reflected in the index. Some of the biggest financial institutions have shares that are priced the same as their options.

353 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:34:30am

re: #344 shanec99

Yeah didn't realize the final transaction was gonna occur at the bunny ranch.

354 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:34:47am

re: #330 ploome hineni


Heh...I go there pretty much all the time, yet I haven't looked at the 60-day charts for any of the metals since they all seemed to be at their low ebb.

Having said that, take a look at the exchange rates (a nifty little feature if'n I do say so) at the very bottom. As much as gold's been gaining this past couple of weeks, the greenback is also gaining against pretty much every major currency out there except for the Yen and some sideways movement against the HK dollar and Chinese Yuan.

355 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:35:01am

re: #349 Killian Bundy

/worthless in a total economic collapse, can't eat it and it's too heavy to tote around anyway

sounds like ammo...

(heavy ass shit. %-)

356 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:35:13am

re: #343 BatGuano

Yes, Sir!

357 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:36:02am

hasta y'all...

l8r!

358 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:36:34am

re: #347 littleoldlady

Ebay has become a greedy organization that is strangling the sellers and forcing the buyers to used paypal. The higher listing fees for sellers plus paypal fees are taking up to 20% of all the profits.

359 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:36:53am

re: #357 redc1c4

hasta y'all...

l8r!

later red. weet dreams

360 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:37:14am

What a Jackass.

361 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:37:44am

re: #358 yenta-fada

Isn't one of their chairmen considering a run for governor of California?

362 nightwatch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:38:00am

Post is shape shifting...or

363 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:38:33am

re: #358 yenta-fada

Absolutely correct! :-(

And therefore it's no longer the "bargain" mall it once was. It's easier, faster and cheaper to buy stuff on amazon these days.

364 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:38:52am

'Night, red! :-)

365 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:39:03am

re: #349 Killian Bundy

You are correct that the metals aren't the same as useful goods in an economic collapse. However they will help preserve your savings better than paper currencies which have had a baaad history. Confederate money anyone?

366 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:40:10am

Damn, I love insomnia. The radiation therapy knocks me for a loop, the drugs to counteract the side effects keep me awake. At least I can read comments at LGF.

367 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:40:32am

re: #352 yenta-fada

Dow just might be plunging because the banking system is still not lending to people with viable businesses and real estate. They also have a ton of toxic assets that nobody knows what to do with. The financial instability plus a constant loss of jobs are reflected in the index. Some of the biggest financial institutions have shares that are priced the same as their options.

Welcome to Obamaworld. Let's get out of debt by loading up on more debt.

/he has no coherent answer, maybe the confirmation of his deliberate tax cheat Treasury Secretary will assuage the market beast

368 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:40:56am
LAS VEGAS — A former Clark County jail inmate has filed a federal lawsuit alleging he was hurt when guards tossed a stun grenade inside his cell.

Sergio Ramirez accuses the county, Las Vegas police jail guards and medical staff of excessive force and violation of his civil rights in the Nov. 21 incident.

He alleges he laying on the floor with his arms extended when the flash-bang grenade detonated, and that he was was denied treatment for burns that festered while he was kept in an isolation cell for four days.

He's seeking a least $3 million in damages, but his lawyer says the case is about torture more than money.

A police spokesman says Ramirez's allegations are being investigated and the department doesn't comment about lawsuits.

His lawyer says the 25-year-old Ramirez suffered permanent scarring from burns so severe that some of his tattoos were obliterated.


Foxnews

369 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:41:11am

re: #340 ploome hineni

Then you are correct,sir!

370 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:41:11am

re: #363 littleoldlady


Gov. Palin couldn't even sell Alaska's jet!

371 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:41:21am

re: #360 Rustler

What a Jackass.

Juvenile belly aching humor at its best.

372 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:41:40am

re: #361 Fenway_Nation

I dunno who wants to be governor of the nearly bankrupt state of California. You may be right, I just don't know.

373 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:43:00am

re: #369 Mel Lono

Then you are correct,sir!

Linky no worky.

374 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:43:29am

re: #373 Erik The Red You didn't go to this page does not exist?

375 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:44:05am

Lets see, spending, spending, spending; borowing, borowing, borowing, and never expecting the bills to arrive got us to where we are today. The Dem's answer: spend, spend, spend; borrow, borrow, borrow; and never expect the bills to arrive.

Fasten your seatbelts, its going to be a bumpy four years. Or more.

376 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:44:35am

re: #371 Erik The Red
I hope they charge him with felany charges inert or not taking a grenade into an airport is beyond Stupid.

377 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:44:45am

re: #356 Sharmuta

As long as we understand each other and all of the protocols are followed and we behave in a dignified manner :)

378 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:45:47am

re: #365 yenta-fada

You are correct that the metals aren't the same as useful goods in an economic collapse. However they will help preserve your savings better than paper currencies which have had a baaad history. Confederate money anyone?

Well aware of that. I wound up staying with an Argentine family about 10 years ago and they gave me one of the more insightful and thought-provoking souveniers of my 3 month trek through Latin America. It was a little shoebox full of various discontinued Argentine currencies- simply ranging from the mid-1970s to late 1980s- the peso, the nuevo peso and the Austral...to go with my (still) current pesos. At the time I was there, the Peso was pegged to the greenback; 1 peso = $1. Since then, it's lost about 2/3rds its value.

379 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:45:57am

re: #355 redc1c4

sounds like ammo...

(heavy ass shit. %-)

/well, unlike chucking Krugerrands at hungry and thirsty gold bugs, ammo and a compatible weapon might keep them from overrunning your food and water supply

380 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:46:25am

re: #367 Killian Bundy

Welcome to Obamaworld. Let's get out of debt by loading up on more debt.

/he has no coherent answer, maybe the confirmation of his deliberate tax cheat Treasury Secretary will assuage the market beast

Obama's economic team consists largely of the same people who helped us get into this mess. I don't believe that they know how to fix it. They weren't thinking long term, just who could make the most money in the shortest amount of time. Remember when the stock went up when people got laid off from a company? Yesterday the company who laid off 5,000 people (microsoft) saw the opposite reaction. This whole globalization thing works until it doesn't. People cannot work for nothing.

381 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:46:54am

re: #376 Rustler

I hope they charge him with felany charges inert or not taking a grenade into an airport is beyond Stupid.

Stupid beyond belief. Then again I don't think he is playing with a full deck. Still he is funny as hell in his movies.

382 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:46:59am

Hgood Hmorning HLGF.

383 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:47:46am

re: #326 littleoldlady

HI littleoldlady! It is a pleasure to share fruitcup with you.

384 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:49:00am

re: #381 Erik The Red
Sophmorish but yes funny.(the movies that is not the grenade in the Airport.)

385 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:49:22am

In Gran Torino, were Eastoods neighbors Mong?

Or in the new era or hope and change, were the Hmong?

386 Mel Lono  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:50:34am

re: #348 redc1c4

387 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:51:29am

re: #383 BatGuano

HI littleoldlady! It is a pleasure to share fruitcup with you.

HI BatGuano!

Bon appetit!

388 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:51:35am

re: #385 Fenway_Nation

In Gran Torino, were Eastoods neighbors Mong?

Or in the new era or hope and change, were the Hmong?

They have always been Hmong. I remember quite well, when in Vietnam we worked closely with them, they were great allies that we abandoned when the Demo's cut off funding in 74.

389 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:51:40am

OK...spot price for gold just jumped $16 an ounce in the last half-hour. Thank you, King Barry the Present!

390 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:51:53am

re: #378 Fenway_Nation

Your experience in Argentina is enlightening. It is not exactly a backwater, but a developed society. If their currency can act like funny money, then it is possible for any country. By the way, the British pound is just tanking, so there's another first world example of what happens when you have a goofball like Gordon Brown and the same irresponsible banking practices we are seeing here. Brown kept coming out and saying how everything was just GREAT.

391 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:52:52am

re: #382 Spare O'Lake

Hgood hmorning? Do you have the hiccups?

392 freetoken  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:52:53am

re: #309 Sharmuta

I spoke with a lady friend of mine yesterday about the election and American misogyny, and she agreed with us. So our little band is up to 3. Woohoo!

One well known African-Ameriocan academic, whom many Lizards would describe as quite liberal, Glenn Loury, made the case during the election that he thought misogyny was prevalent in working against both Hillary and Palin, and that it may even be a bigger hurdle for a woman to become President as compared to a black man.

Indeed, he even came to Palin's defense against some of the more atrocious attacks upon her (e.g., the Hustler stuff.) (BTW, I agree that similar stuff tossed at Palin during the election probably stemmed more from misogyny than hatred of Christianity.)

393 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:53:45am

re: #389 Fenway_Nation

Don't get too excited when gold jumps. It goes the other way just as quickly. Believe me, I know.

394 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:54:04am

re: #388 Dublin(CA)Dude


Maybe I should rephrase the question I was asking earlier this week. Instead of what nation will be King Barry's Iran, who will be King Barry's Hmong?

/My money would be on the Kurds, but there's no shortage of Latinos he could throw under the bus to placate Chavez, Morales or Castro.

395 freetoken  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:54:09am

re: #358 yenta-fada

It's been costing me about 10%. Still, I tell myself it is worth it as otherwise I would have a hard time finding a market for some stuff.

396 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:55:29am

re: #394 Fenway_Nation

Israel with be King Barry's Hmong, he's already started to throw them under the bus by insisting Israel reopen its border with Gaza toda.

397 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:56:15am

Sorry, too many drugs, toda should be today.

398 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:57:14am

re: #393 yenta-fada


You can probably tell I'm still a little new to this (kicking myself for passing up the chance to visit the Royal Canadian Mint in Ottawa some 8 years ago and pick up a shiny souvenier).

Paper's (stocks, gov't bonds, currency, CD's etc) nice, but can't quite beat the lustre or security of some gold (or silver...or if I've been really good- platinum).

399 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:58:11am

re: #393 yenta-fada

Love your handle, Yenta Fada, wonderful play on words.

400 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:58:29am

re: #395 freetoken

You sell on ebay? I buy on ebay. I'm addicted to a couple of categories. I am so unhappy when the NEW ebay changed things around. I love ebay.

401 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:58:42am

re: #390 yenta-fada

Your experience in Argentina is enlightening. It is not exactly a backwater, but a developed society. If their currency can act like funny money, then it is possible for any country. By the way, the British pound is just tanking, so there's another first world example of what happens when you have a goofball like Gordon Brown and the same irresponsible banking practices we are seeing here. Brown kept coming out and saying how everything was just GREAT.

My sil is in the UK and she phoned last night and is very concerned about the banking system failing there. She banks with Barclays and they seem to be having a rough time atm.
I am no pro but have been saying,since this whole thing started that the US started this with sub prime. The joke is the US will pull out of this sooner rather than later. The rest of the world will take a long time to recover.

402 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:58:43am

re: #397 Dublin(CA)Dude


No prob- I'd like to think I'm pretty sober, and that still hasn't stopped me from typos galore...

403 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:59:59am

NOW and the Christian Coalition were in agreement the girl selling her virginity is a bad example. My response to these groups is she maintained her virginity until 22 unlike all these young ladies just sleeping with anyone in school. I'm willing to bet this 22 year old does more for preventing teen pregnancies than Now and the Christian Coalition have done together in the last 10 years, just by virtue of showing to these young ladies that it(virginity) has value.

404 freetoken  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:00:23am

re: #400 yenta-fada

I've been an eBay member since 1998 and sold since then, but only on occasion (it is not a business for me.) So I've seen many changes. The recent ones are frustrating, but understandable.

405 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:00:31am

re: #402 Fenway_Nation

Combo of anti pain, anti nasea, anti depressants, bp meds, chemo and radiation. The worst thing is I'm exhausted and can't sleep.

406 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:01:04am

Damn it! I made the mistake of opening a Facebook account, using my real name, to "accept as a friend" an uber moonbat Israeli fraternity brother. Well, he's got like 700 "freinds" and they're all into mystical [expletive deleted] like "crystals". So much for using the account for professional networking. Making the best of it, I'm tormenting them with videos:


/should have used Killian Bundy, but then you can only have one Facebook account, sockpuppet denied

407 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:01:47am

Paterson to name Kirsten Gildebrand (D) a 42 year old congresswoman, to fill Hillary's senate seat.

408 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:02:14am

re: #405 Dublin(CA)Dude

OY. {[{Dublin(CA)Dude}]}

/hope you feel better soon!

409 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:02:17am

re: #398 Fenway_Nation

In my opinion, you are not too late to join the metals market. The bull market in precious metals is still in early stages. As John Embry of Sprott Asset Management says, "The easy money has already been made, but the big money has yet to be made." He knows what he is doing, but nobody, absolutely nobody, can tell you when and at what rate things will happen.

410 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:02:45am

re: #407 Rustler

Paterson to name Kirsten Gildebrand (D) a 42 year old congresswoman, to fill Hillary's senate seat.

And the good thing is she's an NRA supporter. Her family hunts and owns guns. A blue dog Demo. Best we could hope for in NY.

411 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:03:26am

re: #401 Erik The Red

That probably explains why the greenback seems to be holding up pretty well through most of this (at least for now). Then Yen on the other hand seems to be on a roll...

/same buddy who gave me the gold ETF chart traded in the Yen back when it was 120 yen to the dollar. Of course, he also cautioned me against buying a coal company before their stock shot up from $3.50 to $61 a share in a few months time and didn't follow through on my advice to look into platinum when it was trading well under $800 an ounce.

412 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:03:42am

re: #408 littleoldlady

Thanks, I'm hanging in, and actually doing somewhat better with the new Oncologist. Prayer has helped me much more than meds.

413 freetoken  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:04:22am

re: #401 Erik The Red

My sil is in the UK and she phoned last night and is very concerned about the banking system failing there. She banks with Barclays and they seem to be having a rough time atm.

There have been many articles the past few days in the Brit papers (available online), and in lots of commentaries too.

They have problems bigger than ours, adjusted for their size. It is beginning to look like the UK banks were extremely exposed to troubles in the US and Iceland.

What we are talking here is an exaggerated exposure due to trying to posture London as the central financial city for the whole world... and the UK banks got involved in that.

414 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:05:44am

re: #401 Erik The Red

My sil is in the UK and she phoned last night and is very concerned about the banking system failing there. She banks with Barclays and they seem to be having a rough time atm.
I am no pro but have been saying,since this whole thing started that the US started this with sub prime. The joke is the US will pull out of this sooner rather than later. The rest of the world will take a long time to recover.

I certainly pray that you are right about the U.S. holding up. Our financial systems are quite connected with other countries. Nobody can go it alone. I do NOT wish financial instability on anyone, but that doesn't mean that I won't prepare for it.

415 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:08:38am

re: #405 Dublin(CA)Dude

Yikes, you are really fighting a lot of obstacles. People who actually sleep when they turn out the lights at night don't know how lucky they are. I'll send up prayers for you to get the healing sleep that you deserve and want.

416 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:09:02am

re: #413 freetoken


Does this mean no more Twenty Pound notes with the Bushmill's distellery on it?

417 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:10:30am

re: #412 Dublin(CA)Dude

Way past my bedtime here- but...here's hoping for a restful, good night's sleep on your end.

418 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:10:49am

Morning all. Hows things this day?

/not used to getting up this early on my day off.

419 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:10:53am

re: #414 yenta-fada

I certainly pray that you are right about the U.S. holding up. Our financial systems are quite connected with other countries. Nobody can go it alone. I do NOT wish financial instability on anyone, but that doesn't mean that I won't prepare for it.

Stocks are oversold big time. It gets really ridiculous when companies trade below cash value.

/fundamentals be fundamentals

420 Nightwatch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:11:00am

Good Night ya green scaled things,

watchin the next 100 days...while I buy more ammo...

421 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:11:35am

re: #418 BlueCanuck

Morning blue!

'Night, blue!

422 yenta-fada  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:12:45am

'night lizards. I'm going to pretend to sleep. Thanks for the company and the input. You are the best.

423 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:14:20am

re: #391 yenta-fada

Hgood hmorning? Do you have the hiccups?

Hjust hwishin' hand hopen...

424 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:14:27am

re: #415 yenta-fada

Yikes, you are really fighting a lot of obstacles. People who actually sleep when they turn out the lights at night don't know how lucky they are. I'll send up prayers for you to get the healing sleep that you deserve and want.

Two months ago I was terribly depressed about the situation, but to be honest, today, in spite of the insomnia, I'm very upbeat. I found a great new Oncologist who has taken a very aggressive approach and has given me renewed hope. If you ever read Alan Sullivan over at Fresh Bilge (www.seablogger.com), he's also fighting cancer, of a different type, but he has given me great courage. He rediscovered the religion of his childhood, much like I am doing, and throught that rediscovery I have found great peace, and at the same time courage to fight on when I wanted to give up. And the result has been significant improvement. So, I believe in good medicine, but I also believe in the power of God. Thanks.

425 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:14:33am

Countrywide trying to sweetheart deals on people who are buying NEW homes. So I guess if you are moving into an area without a lot of newly built homes your screwed.

426 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:14:40am
427 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:16:09am

re: #425 Rustler

Countrywide trying to sweetheart deals on people who are buying NEW homes. So I guess if you are moving into an area without a lot of newly built homes your screwed.

Wouldn't it be nice if we were all Chris Dodd?

428 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:17:31am

Good morning Lizards. The dog I am babysitting has decided it was time for me to get up (not that she let me sleep at all!).

429 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:17:47am

Morning Lizards -

So Caroline has went down in flames? Nanny issues. tax issues, she never seemed that ummm you know, well you know...smart.

430 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:18:46am

re: #418 BlueCanuck

Morning all. Hows things this day?

/not used to getting up this early on my day off.

Morning Blue. You are here late/early today. Enjoy your day off. You missed some very bad joke earlier.

431 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:19:51am

re: #426 TheMatrix31

Hmm Hmm Himmm

LOL.

432 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:20:16am

BlueCanuck! :-)

433 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:20:59am
434 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:24:05am

re: #433 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Did y'all see how our predient began "agitated"?

OH. MY. He's already cracking! Does he think this is pressure?

Vendor! Popcorn over here!

435 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:25:01am

goddess! :-)

PREDIENT! :-) :-)

/I like it! ;-)

436 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:25:49am

re: #434 Bloodnok

OH. MY. He's already cracking! Does he think this is pressure?

Vendor! Popcorn over here!

LOL!
I can understand his not wanting to take questions during a "social" (let the masses adores me) visit, but he could have handled it with charm, not pique.

437 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:26:17am

re: #435 littleoldlady

goddess! :-)

PREDIENT! :-) :-)

/I like it! ;-)

Sigh. Sorry. Typos are the bane of my existence.

438 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:28:51am

re: #430 Erik The Red
Morning Erik, if the bad jokes were from you. . . .

re: #432 littleoldlady
Morning littleoldlady, snuck some fruitcup saw the most excellent timing. :)

re: #433 goddessoftheclassroom
Good morning goddess.

439 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:29:17am

re: #437 goddessoftheclassroom

Sigh. Sorry. Typos are the bane of my existence.

There have been times I've felt that my entire life was a typo, then I realize that typos are just a part of life. Enjoy.

440 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:30:41am

re: #437 goddessoftheclassroom

Sigh. Sorry. Typos are the bane of my existence.

Shouldn't be, especially when they are so much fun! ;-)

441 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:31:09am

re: #439 Dublin(CA)Dude

There have been times I've felt that my entire life was a typo, then I realize that typos are just a part of life. Enjoy.

{Dublin(CA)Dude}
Perspective and priorities help us find humor in life!

I personally feel as though I'm the star of my own sitcom...

/which is MUCH better than being a guest star on, say, CSI...

442 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:31:34am
As he walked through the area where journalists have lunch, Obama noticed a pair of vending machines that dispense soda and junk food.

"Looks like you have some healthy snacks, guys," Obama said.

heh, from the article goddess. Does anyone sense some CHANGE™ coming their way?

443 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:33:12am

re: #442 BlueCanuck

heh, from the article goddess. Does anyone sense some CHANGE™ coming their way?

Perhaps then a cooler wind will blow through the MSM!

444 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:33:28am

re: #441 goddessoftheclassroom

{Dublin(CA)Dude}
Perspective and priorities help us find humor in life!

I personally feel as though I'm the star of my own sitcom...

/which is MUCH better than being a guest star on, say, CSI...

Did you catch the last episode of Gil Grissom on CSI tonight? Good episode, good ending for a nine year run. Willian Peterson did a great job in that show, created an amazing and interesting character. As a fan of the show, I will miss him.

445 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:34:07am

re: #442 BlueCanuck

heh, from the article goddess. Does anyone sense some CHANGE™ coming their way?

This from the man who probably stumbled on that room while looking for a safe place to cop a smoke...

446 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:34:36am

re: #436 goddessoftheclassroom

LOL!
I can understand his not wanting to take questions during a "social" (let the masses adores me) visit, but he could have handled it with charm, not pique.

It was nearly a "waffle" moment. You can always tell when he's getting rankled -he starts off with "Come on, guys..." (Always guys, true misogynist that he is).

447 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:36:45am

re: #446 Bloodnok

It was nearly a "waffle" moment. You can always tell when he's getting rankled -he starts off with "Come on, guys..." (Always guys, true misogynist that he is).

He didn't have a telepromtor in front of him, did you really expect him to answer a question? As it is, in his press conferences, all questions must be submitted in advance. This man is not able to answer an ad hoc question. Inexperience shows. And we will pay the price.

448 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:38:09am

re: #447 Dublin(CA)Dude He can answer em just after the Fiasco of answering hte 8 year old and Joe the Plumber his handlers decided it was best he didn't.

449 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:38:24am

re: #445 littleoldlady

This from the man who probably stumbled on that room while looking for a safe place to cop a smoke...


Don't cross the ONE.
Look how he's punished Hilary Clinton. If she can't make peace in the Mideast and tame Pakistan and Putin, she' failed not just him but the whole world.

Morning all!

450 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:38:33am

re: #447 Dublin(CA)Dude

He didn't have a telepromtor in front of him, did you really expect him to answer a TOUGH question? As it is, in his press conferences, all questions must be submitted in advance. This man is not able to answer an ad hoc question. Inexperience shows. And we will pay the price.

FTFY.

451 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:39:31am

re: #448 Rustler

He can answer em just after the Fiasco of answering hte 8 year old and Joe the Plumber his handlers decided it was best he didn't.

If he did decide to answer open questions I'm afraid we would find out we have the Caroline Kennedy of presidents, " Well, you know, humm, you know, well, as you know, humm"

452 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:40:33am

re: #433 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Did y'all see how our predient began "agitated"?


Yes, how dare they spoil the mood by asking serious questions?

453 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:40:34am

re: #450 BlueCanuck

FTFY.

I've seen FTFY before, but I don't know what it means--please explain!

454 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:40:54am

re: #449 Jim in Virginia

{My Rove}!

Poor Hillary!

455 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:41:08am

re: #452 summergurl

Yes, how dare they spoil the mood by asking serious questions?

How dare they spoil the mood by asking ANY questions.

456 yesandno  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:42:35am

re: #33 Sosigado

I heard a rumor that our new POTUS signed some executive orders today that he hadn't even been briefed on. Anyone else run across that?

More like the hand up his backside and the strings were not quite in sinc. He created an order he apparently didn't understand.

For the most intelligent puppet in the world, this could be a problem.

457 NYCHardhat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:43:37am

Good morning all. OT I don't know about any of you, but I'm really getting tired of the "give Obama a chance nonsense"

458 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:44:07am

re: #453 goddessoftheclassroom

Fixed That For You. I think redc1c4 came up with that, but I can't be sure.

459 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:44:28am

re: #449 Jim in Virginia

Morning jiv. Go up thread for some of my bad jokes. For some unknown reason you seem to like them.

460 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:44:55am

re: #451 Dublin(CA)Dude
I commented to one moonbat during the election on Obama's widespread use of the word Umm. He said it only comes out Occasionally so i popped off an 8minute you tube of it. His reply was nice looping of a couple times dude. But the video was 8 continuous minutes of Umms with no repeats.

461 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:44:56am

re: #457 NYCHardhat

Good morning all. OT I don't know about any of you, but I'm really getting tired of the "give Obama a chance nonsense"

I never bought it for a second. To paraphrase Dennis Green "He is who we thought he was!".

462 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:46:03am

re: #456 yesandno

More like the hand up his backside and the strings were not quite in sinc. He created an order he apparently didn't understand.

For the most intelligent puppet in the world, this could be a problem.

If you don't think that Nancy Pelosi is pulling the strings, you're wrong. His lack of experience leaves him open to her and Reid's obvious manipulation.
I loved her quote this morning, "Bush being gone is like ten pounds off my face". I just assumed she looked that way because she was either constipated or had too much botox.

463 NYCHardhat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:46:11am

re: #461 Bloodnok

I never bought it for a second. To paraphrase Dennis Green "He is who we thought he was!".

I'm still heated from yesterday's thread about the misty eyed scientists. Alot of cloaked moonbats roaming around.

464 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:46:41am

re: #461 Bloodnok I gave him a chance it lasted all of 5 minutes. I didn't even count the party against him really I commented on it but didn't hold it against him.

465 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:47:44am

re: #460 Rustler

I commented to one moonbat during the election on Obama's widespread use of the word Umm. He said it only comes out Occasionally so i popped off an 8minute you tube of it. His reply was nice looping of a couple times dude. But the video was 8 continuous minutes of Umms with no repeats.

Like I said earlier, without the telepromter, he is the Caroline Kennedy president, you know?

466 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:48:19am

re: #460 Rustler

I commented to one moonbat during the election on Obama's widespread use of the word Umm. He said it only comes out Occasionally so i popped off an 8minute you tube of it. His reply was nice looping of a couple times dude. But the video was 8 continuous minutes of Umms with no repeats.

There mind is hopelessly changed - now its stuck on stupid

467 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:49:01am

re: #464 Rustler

I gave him a chance it lasted all of 5 minutes. I didn't even count the party against him really I commented on it but didn't hold it against him.

I promise to be honest with my critique of the man (he will do many things right) but so far he hasn't wowed me.

468 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:50:11am

re: #466 summergurl

There mind is hopelessly changed - now its stuck on stupid


PIMF their

sheesh need more coffee

469 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:51:16am

re: #467 Bloodnok

I promise to be honest with my critique of the man (he will do many things right) but so far he hasn't wowed me.

GWB didn't get five minutes of favorable coverage, he was savaged from the get go. As Rush said, I hope he fails, and not because I want America to fail, but because his espoused ideas are so wrong and so bad for this country that his success will spell doom for life as we know it in the USA.

Sarah, please study up as much as you can, we need you.

470 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:51:19am

re: #468 summergurl

PIMF their

sheesh need more coffee

Here's a cup

[ Up ]

471 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:51:35am

re: #459 Erik The Red

Morning jiv. Go up thread for some of my bad jokes. For some unknown reason you seem to like them.

And you seem to have only one fan but youo keep telling them.

472 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:52:07am

re: #469 Dublin(CA)Dude

GWB didn't get five minutes of favorable coverage, he was savaged from the get go. As Rush said, I hope he fails, and not because I want America to fail, but because his espoused ideas are so wrong and so bad for this country that his success will spell doom for life as we know it in the USA.

Sarah, please study up as much as you can, we need you.

That is a good way of putting it. It is VERY important to me that socialism fails.

473 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:52:43am

re: #469 Dublin(CA)Dude

GWB didn't get five minutes of favorable coverage, he was savaged from the get go. As Rush said, I hope he fails, and not because I want America to fail, but because his espoused ideas are so wrong and so bad for this country that his success will spell doom for life as we know it in the USA.

Sarah, please study up as much as you can, we need you.

What REALLY infuriated me was the lack of graciousness towards GWB at the inauguration. I will give Clinton props in that he WAS gracious towards GHWB at Clinton's inauguration.

474 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:53:15am

re: #471 Jim in Virginia

And you seem to have only one fan but youo keep telling them.

lol

475 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:53:48am

re: #471 Jim in Virginia

Bad jokes are their own punishment and reward. I have to admit some of then make me chuckle. :)

476 yesandno  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:54:11am

Suspect that the news cycle will now be fully filled by Caroline Kennedy's tax problems, nanny problems, and possible affair.

Someone definitely pissed in the gene pool once again...the rich pay no taxes not because of honest mistakes, but because they cheat. And cheating becomes a way of life. So they find themselves in front of a Senate committee being vetted to become Treasury Secretary with an apology that had the ring of "the dog ate my homework".

The big 0 will be out of the cycle.

And no one will care that part of the $300B stimulus package contains a couple billion to set the stage for universal health care...

how stimulating!

477 NYCHardhat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:54:55am

re: #473 goddessoftheclassroom

What REALLY infuriated me was the lack of graciousness towards GWB at the inauguration. I will give Clinton props in that he WAS gracious towards GHWB at Clinton's inauguration.

And what kills me is that we have let a pop culture icon into the White House. God help us all. With that said, have a good day all.

478 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:55:43am

re: #419 Killian Bundy

Stocks are oversold big time. It gets really ridiculous when companies trade below cash value.
/fundamentals be fundamentals

Who knows the "cash value" of assets in a deflationary recession?
Book value of underlying assets is a historical construct and may no longer be safely viewed as a floor for cash value - not in a severe deflationary recession.

But don't worry, pumping a few trillion into the economy will probably inflate those sagging asset values in the short term./
DEFLATION ---> INFLATION---> ?

In the long term the massive structural deficits must be eliminated and the ballooning national debt must be reduced in order to restore confidence. And the medicine for that cure is just too awful to contemplate.

479 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:55:47am

re: #475 BlueCanuck

Bad jokes are their own punishment and reward. I have to admit some of then make me chuckle. :)

Come on Blue only some?/

480 gregg  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:55:56am

re: #433 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Did y'all see how our predient began "agitated"?

I have the impression that he's easily agitated and holds a grudge.

481 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:56:43am

Morning all.

482 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:57:36am

re: #481 Bubblehead II

Morning all.

Morning bubble.

483 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:57:40am

re: #479 Erik The Red

Come on Blue only some?/

That's my story and I am sticking to it.

/now where did I put my crate of white smoke. . . .

484 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:57:59am

re: #480 gregg

I have the impression that he's easily agitated and holds a grudge.

I think you're right. He doesn't like to be questioned or doubted. He doesn't want to have to defend his positions.

He wouldn't last a year as a junior high teacher.

485 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:58:54am

So does anyone know who Caroline Kennedy was sleeping with? I guess she takes after her dad?

486 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:59:19am

re: #473 goddessoftheclassroom

What REALLY infuriated me was the lack of graciousness towards GWB at the inauguration. I will give Clinton props in that he WAS gracious towards GHWB at Clinton's inauguration.

It was an interesting contrast between transitions. The Bush family took nothing from the White House with them, as opposed to Bill and Hill taking hundreds of thousands of gifts to the country as their own. No one in the Bush admin vandalized US property as the Clinton team did in 2000.

Even E. Rahm complimented the Bush Admin for its professionalism and help in the transition. What an ugly comparison to the Clintons. Even the Bush daughters left a very wonderful and helpful letter for the Obama daughters.

Class wins over crassness every day. The Bush exit just makes the Clintons look like the grifters they were and are.

You expected graciousness? These are BDS demo's, they wouldn't know gracious from their butts.

487 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 3:59:45am

According to reports, when Politico's Jonathan Martin asked the president about his nominee for deputy Defense Secretary, William Lynn, Obama refused to answer, saying he was not there to take questions.

Wonder how long he is going to get to keep his press pass?

/ The One is not prepared

488 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:00:45am

re: #480 gregg

I have the impression that he's easily agitated and holds a grudge.

GWB may have come off as a good natured boob in some of those situations where we would have liked him to have fired back at the press, but at least he kept his dignity and the dignity of the office.

489 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:01:43am

re: #485 Nevergiveup

So does anyone know who Caroline Kennedy was sleeping with? I guess she takes after her dad?

Marilyn Monroe?

490 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:02:10am

Obama became agitated easily? I kind of figured that out when he asked the press to leave him alone to eat his waffle. First he eats waffles and now he's becoming one.

491 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:02:30am

re: #489 littleoldlady

Marilyn Monroe?

The gossip columns name Sultzberg of the NYT. Any surprises here?

492 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:02:40am

re: #470 Bloodnok

Here's a cup

[ Up ]


Thanks! It's not decaf is it?

493 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:03:13am

re: #492 summergurl

Thanks! It's not decaf is it?

They make that?

494 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:03:39am

I've got to get ready for school. Take care, Lizards!

495 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:04:08am

re: #489 littleoldlady

Marilyn Monroe?

I dunno but i would suggest not letting her drive afterwards and keep her away from all bridges.

496 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:04:22am

re: #491 Dublin(CA)Dude

The gossip columns name Sultzberg of the NYT. Any surprises here?

Your kidding? I would have assumed she had better taste than that? But what do I know?

497 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:05:01am

Okay, I've been up all night because of the meds, etc. Gotta try to get a few hours, see y'all later in the day. Have a good one all.

498 yesandno  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:05:32am

re: #487 Bubblehead II

According to reports, when Politico's Jonathan Martin asked the president about his nominee for deputy Defense Secretary, William Lynn, Obama refused to answer, saying he was not there to take questions.

Wonder how long he is going to get to keep his press pass?

/ The One is not prepared

The 0 is caught of in the celebrity of being number 1. GWB understood the humility of someone in that position. 0 just sees the accolades, glitter, stardom...just like the folks that voted for him because Oprah or some celeb said to do it.

He gets angry at answering questions because he is ignorant on the subject and becomes defensive. The predicted long honeymoon might come to a quick end.

499 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:06:45am

re: #493 Bloodnok

They make that?


Good answer - And don't pass me any of that sugar or cream either - it gets in the way of the caffeine...

500 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:06:47am

re: #487 Bubblehead II

According to reports, when Politico's Jonathan Martin asked the president about his nominee for deputy Defense Secretary, William Lynn, Obama refused to answer, saying he was not there to take questions.

Wonder how long he is going to get to keep his press pass?

/ The One is not prepared

Did Obama call the reporter honey or sweetie?

501 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:06:58am

re: #490 baconeatingkaffir

Well you are what you eat.

502 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:07:04am

re: #478 Spare O'Lake

Who knows the "cash value" of assets in a deflationary recession?

Book value of underlying assets is a historical construct and may no longer be safely viewed as a floor for cash value - not in a severe deflationary recession.

Meanwhile FCX runs their trucks out every day to collect the ore. Like Chicken Little, you're an idiot.

/when in trouble or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

503 Panhandler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:07:32am

re: #489 littleoldlady
lol, question? What size pan for your taco meat dip? I'm going to make some but I'm proportionaly handicapped.

504 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:08:30am

re: #485 Nevergiveup So who is this generations Male Marilynn Monroe?

505 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:08:57am

re: #504 Rustler

So who is this generations Male Marilynn Monroe?

George Clooney?

506 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:08:57am

re: #491 Dublin(CA)Dude

The gossip columns name Sultzberg of the NYT. Any surprises here?

MEH.

/and feh!

507 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:09:17am

re: #496 Nevergiveup

Your kidding? I would have assumed she had better taste than that? But what do I know?

She's a 50 yo shrew faced woman, why are you surprised? The beauty of Jacquline did not pass to her, nor did her graciousness. In NY high society, money attracts money, looks don't matter.

508 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:09:21am

Good morning

Look for another bad day in the market today. The futures are down close to 2%, the Nikkei dropped close to 4% and the Hang Seng dropped about 0.63%.

On Inauguration Day I said that the Messiah had 48 hours to make some clear statement of his plan for dealing with the recession. Well it's been 48 hours and o far, all we have is his clear intent to protect terrorists and to spend $850 billion that we don't have. But otherwise, not a word.

The market will get ugly today.

Bush lost 5.5% off the market during his second term. Obama will do that during his first week.

509 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:10:05am

re: #507 Dublin(CA)Dude

She's a 50 yo shrew faced woman, why are you surprised? The beauty of Jacquline did not pass to her, nor did her graciousness. In NY high society, money attracts money, looks don't matter.

Yeah, but can she hold her liquor like uncle ted?

510 littleoldlady  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:10:37am

re: #503 Panhandler

lol, question? What size pan for your taco meat dip? I'm going to make some but I'm proportionaly handicapped.

ACK! What size do pans come in? 9 x 12? 10 x 13? 8 x 14?

Well, that's the range, anway...

511 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:11:07am

re: #507 Dublin(CA)Dude

She's a 50 yo shrew faced woman, why are you surprised? The beauty of Jacquline did not pass to her, nor did her graciousness. In NY high society, money attracts money, looks don't matter.

Yeah I am sure your right. So much for Camelot?

512 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:11:27am

re: #504 Rustler

So who is this generations Male Marilynn Monroe?


Barrack Hussein Obama

513 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:11:39am

He gets angry at answering questions because he is ignorant on the subject and becomes defensive. The predicted long honeymoon might come to a quick end.

Good. Hopefully he will snub the MSM when if they start asking him serious questions and piss them off. I would just love to see the "We made you and we can destroy you" meme come to the surface.

514 monkeytime  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:11:52am

re: #434 Bloodnok

OH. MY. He's already cracking! Does he think this is pressure?

Good grief. Shouldn't the Press Corp know that when POTUS Obama walks to the press rooms that they shouldn't ask questions? Shheeessshhh. I'm sure they treated President Bush with much more courtesy.

515 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:12:06am

re: #508 3 wood

Good morning

Look for another bad day in the market today. The futures are down close to 2%, the Nikkei dropped close to 4% and the Hang Seng dropped about 0.63%.

On Inauguration Day I said that the Messiah had 48 hours to make some clear statement of his plan for dealing with the recession. Well it's been 48 hours and o far, all we have is his clear intent to protect terrorists and to spend $850 billion that we don't have. But otherwise, not a word.

The market will get ugly today.

Bush lost 5.5% off the market during his second term. Obama will do that during his first week.

Spend, spend, spend; borrow, borrow, borrow; forget about the bills. This is what got us into this mess.
The Dem's answer: borrow, borrow, borrow; spend, spend, spend; forget about the bills.

Gonna be a long and depressed four years.

516 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:12:14am

re: #498 yesandno
Bush understood that being the president meant you were a servant of the people. Sometimes you had to do things they don't like but hte job of the president is to serve the United States. Obama on the other hand wanted the job because he thought it would make him the most powerful man in the world.

517 Panhandler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:12:26am

re: #510 littleoldlady

Thanks, I think I got one that will do, just wanted to check. Sorry I missed fruitcup .

518 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:12:28am

re: #511 Nevergiveup

Yeah I am sure your right. So much for Camelot?

519 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:13:31am

re: #508 3 wood
But comeon 3wood he has decided to have a State of hte Economy briefing every morning just so he knows how the market reacted to his previous days decisions.

520 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:13:52am

re: #500 Nevergiveup

*spew*

521 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:15:00am

re: #513 Bubblehead II

That post was in response to yesandno's 498.

sigh

522 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:15:06am

re: #513 Bubblehead II
Too bad making him Broke the MSM so they can't break him. Unless maybe breaking him remakes the MSM.

523 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:15:26am

re: #498 yesandno

He gets angry at answering questions because he is ignorant on the subject and becomes defensive. The predicted long honeymoon might come to a quick end.

This is the first time in his life that Obama has had the MSM do anything but worship at his feet. He's used to the media in Illinois, where they basically just grovel at the feet of the Democratic politicians.

524 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:16:09am

re: #515 Dublin(CA)Dude
Nah the big O's answer will be print,spend,print,spend ad infinitum.

525 yesandno  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:16:16am

re: #516 Rustler

Bush understood that being the president meant you were a servant of the people. Sometimes you had to do things they don't like but hte job of the president is to serve the United States. Obama on the other hand wanted the job because he thought it would make him the most powerful man in the world.


Sums it up very nicely...

God help us/US

526 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:16:49am

re: #524 Rustler

Nah the big O's answer will be print,spend,print,spend ad infinitum.

But he will still pretend that there will ever be a bill to pay.

527 monkeytime  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:17:44am

re: #516 Rustler

Bush understood that being the president meant you were a servant of the people. Sometimes you had to do things they don't like but hte job of the president is to serve the United States. Obama on the other hand wanted the job because he thought it would make him the most powerful man in the world.

Yes I think he thinks WE are the public servants.

528 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:17:46am

pimf
ever=never

529 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:18:07am

re: #519 Rustler

But comeon 3wood he has decided to have a State of hte Economy briefing every morning just so he knows how the market reacted to his previous days decisions.

My guess is they read from Das Kapital.

530 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:19:46am

Well time to call it day. Vacation is over and I have to finish getting ready for work. Bleh! Mondays suck.

531 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:20:04am

I know people on here bitch and moan about Pat Buchanan being on FOX, and rightfully so. But right now they have Al Sharpe Sharpton. It don't get any lower than that. What a moron.

532 yesandno  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:20:04am

When you begin to look at the brain trust: Pelosi, Reed, Schumer, Dodd, Frank, 0...

Come to think of it, excuse me while I go toss my breakfast...

Maybe even last night's dinner...

533 Panhandler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:20:13am

re: #526 Dublin(CA)Dude

Reminds me of a spoiled kid spending his dad's money to impress his "posse". What happens when Dad goes broke?

534 Dublin(CA)Dude  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:20:20am

The bill we will pay for Obambi's trillion dollar deficits will be inflation the likes of which this nation has never seen. It will be the thing that makes him a one term president (please God). We will make a return to the "stagflation" of the Carter years. We must hope for a Reagan like leader to emerge from this mess and clean it up, just as RR did in the 80's.

535 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:20:43am
Id love to chck out your Ancient Kassitian source just to see it with my own eyes,you know the feeling!
I am really curious how this person with the norwegian name Stig is related to us.
Since you said he is related it must be true.So:
We can test the thruth in it by using Aristotles formula for connexive logic ~(~p- p) or Boethius ((p → q) → ~(p... Read More → ~q))
which states that if a statement implies one thing, it does not imply its opposite.
On which foundation do you base your conclution?
When it comes to the prostrate and soup we have aLL kInDs in our family-more like MiXeD sALAd then plain soup- but its usually done on the inside here or SOLo
which reminds me that your last word meens beer in Albanian- if we disrupted the letter S which could be a short for Snake!With the very thought of your recent picture we can now safely draw the conclution that your whole name therefore has an animalistic meening.

A Friend of my "Friend" on Facebook and he's a frat brother and good friend that got deported back to Israel many years ago.

/wow, can anyone make partial sense of this?

536 gregg  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:20:57am

May you live in interesting times...

World Agenda: riots in Iceland, Latvia and Bulgaria are a sign of things to come

The LSE economist Robert Wade – addressing a protest meeting in Reykjavik’s cinema – recently warned that the world was approaching a new tipping point. Starting from March-May 2009, we can expect large-scale civil unrest, he said. “It will be caused by the rise of general awareness throughout Europe, America and Asia that hundreds of millions of people in rich and poor countries are experiencing rapidly falling consumption standards; that the crisis is getting worse not better; and that it has escaped the control of public authorities, national and international.”

537 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:22:34am

re: #536 gregg

May you live in interesting times...

World Agenda: riots in Iceland, Latvia and Bulgaria are a sign of things to come

So what your saying is that we should increase the defense budget then? Right? Fine by me.

538 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:22:44am

Dow futures almost half of the lows at -137.

/two hours to go

539 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:23:26am

Speaking of the MSM and Obama, did anybody else catch the White House Press briefing yesterday?

This new press secretary guy is a joke, and if this was a Republican administration the reporters would have chewed him up. His anwers were:

1. a repeat of some campaign slogan we've heard 1000 times,

2. an "I'll get back to you on that."

3. a "for security reasons I'm not going into details on that."

At one point the Fox News guy actually asked a medium tough question about giving terrorists rights, and that 200 year old hag that sits in the front turned around and glared at him as in "How dare you do that, we will not allow you to hurt our Messiah".

Otherwise it was filled with such tough questions as "So how are the 1st family doing getting used to the new place?"

Great journalism there.

540 Render  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:24:03am

re: #535 Killian Bundy

That's either virus spam or a horribly botched PCP experiment.

(disclaimer: any experiment with PCP is horribly botched by its very nature)

SYMPTOMS,
R

541 FamHistoryGuy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:24:03am

re: #159 shanec99

Sounds like the NKVD at work.

542 gregg  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:24:20am

re: #537 Nevergiveup

So what your saying is that we should increase the defense budget then? Right? Fine by me.

That might be the logical thing to do, but I would expect the current administration to go the route of offering a trillion dollar bailout to each nation that is in a recession.

543 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:24:31am

re: #534 Dublin(CA)Dude

We must hope for a Reagan like leader to emerge from this mess and clean it up, just as RR did in the 80's.

At this point I'm thinking Mitt Romney.

544 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:25:18am

re: #540 Render

That's either virus spam or a horribly botched PCP experiment.

(disclaimer: any experiment with PCP is horribly botched by its very nature)

SYMPTOMS,
R

It's real life.

/one of 742 freinds (now including me)

545 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:25:54am

Good morning group.

We are clearly witnessing an epic fail of government. What will today bring?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

P.S.: Now that we've reclaimed the moral high ground in the eyes of the world, has OBL surrendered yet?

546 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:26:21am

re: #543 3 wood

At this point I'm thinking Mitt Romney.

Na the obvious choice is ...I mean it's got to be...Ah I'll have to get back to ya on that one?

547 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:27:35am

re: #538 Killian Bundy

Dow futures almost half of the lows at -137.

/two hours to go

I'm thinking we will see another 5% drop today. Dow at about 7600 and S&P at 770 About a 10% drop on the books for Obama by the weekend.

548 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:28:51am

Just let them all out of Gitmo. What could possibly go wrong?

Saudi ex-Gitmo detainee joins al-Qaida in Yemen

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

What's the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result?

549 rightside  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:28:55am

I believe the drive-by's may get flustered by nobama's (half-black president) lack of candor in answering questions, however...

They have too much invested in him, and can ill-afford to see him fail. Remember, he is a democrat, and as such, he will be treated to every benefit of the doubt. Even the worst mistakes will be attributed to being a leftover from Bushitler & Co., or it will be merely swept under the rug.

It was incredible to listen to Rush yesterday, playing soundbites from the press conference whereby he signed an executive order closing Club Gitmo. Greg Craig had to tell our half-black president the details of his own executive order. I waited with bated breath, for the drive-by's to recognize that, and immediately question who was actually in charge of the country...

...I am still waiting.

550 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:29:08am

re: #547 3 wood

Na the obvious choice is ...I mean it's got to be...Ah I'll have to get back to ya on that one?

Just watch, Romney even talks like him.

2012 is going to be like 1980 running against Carter all over again.

551 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:30:33am

I still kinda wonder how Iran and the other countries he dared to try something when he became president. Especially now that he is starting his policy of gimping the US's ability to find and deal with threats before something happens.

552 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:31:00am

re: #550 3 wood

Just watch, Romney even talks like him.

2012 is going to be like 1980 running against Carter all over again.


I hope you are right

553 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:31:46am

re: #541 FamHistoryGuy

Sounds like the NKVD at work.


Was reported to have happened in Korea to a Thailand, the man "raped" I was told was a purveyer of child porn, and the rapists were never caught.

554 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:32:49am

re: #549 rightside

They have too much invested in him, and can ill-afford to see him fail. Remember, he is a democrat, and as such, he will be treated to every benefit of the doubt. Even the worst mistakes will be attributed to being a leftover from Bushitler & Co., or it will be merely swept under the rug.

I agree 100%.

I think the only thing that could possibly change this is another terrorist attack on US soil.

Maybe. And at that, some of the MSM will still cheer the attack and say we deserved it.

555 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:33:12am

re: #547 3 wood

I'm thinking we will see another 5% drop today. Dow at about 7600 and S&P at 770 About a 10% drop on the books for Obama by the weekend.

But why, Obama panic? I missed the news as to why the DOW was down over 200 earlier this morning.

/there's very little fundamental reason for it, many responsible corporations are way oversold

556 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:35:09am

re: #550 3 wood Hopefully we end up with a Romney rather than a McCain Jr.

557 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:36:17am

Maybe Obama will be successful in his getting rid of the 22nd Amendment and we can reelect Bush just to piss off dems.

558 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:36:34am

re: #552 ThinkRight

I hope you are right

So far, it's close to 100% certain that the economy will be totally messed up still.

Nothing Obama is doing will help the situation and in fact he will be getting in the way of the economy's Classic dynamic adjustments to correct itself.

As I've said all along, if we can just keep the financial system from tanking, this will correct itself. But this Raw Deal stuff he's coming up with is going to screw the pooch.

By the way, GE just reported a drop in profit of 46%.

Look out below today in the market.

559 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:37:07am

Romney / Palin 2012

560 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:37:07am

Nashville attempt at making english the official language was met with outcry over Immigrant rights. What about Citizens rights?

561 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:38:03am

re: #559 ThinkRight

Romney / Palin 2012

D-U-N, done!

562 rightside  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:38:16am

re: #554 3 wood

I think they will automatically blame Bush for the leftover hatred. Even 3 and-a-half years later, they would. I would wager a great deal of money on my assertion.

563 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:38:23am

Theodore Roosevelt: "Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to take rank with those poor, timid spirits who know neither victory nor defeat."

564 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:38:37am

re: #559 ThinkRight

Romney / Palin 2012

Do overs never really work.

565 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:38:44am

re: #560 Rustler

Nashville attempt at making english the official language was met with outcry over Immigrant rights. What about Citizens rights?


Racist !

566 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:39:12am

re: #560 Rustler

Nashville attempt at making english the official language was met with outcry over Immigrant rights. What about Citizens rights?


Please provide link.

567 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:39:21am

re: #559 ThinkRight
The misogony current in todays media would make that a losing ticket. A Romney/Jeb ticket would have much better chances. ///Since 4 years from now Palin will still just be an inexperienced woman who believes africa is a country and doesn't know what countries are in NAFTA.

568 AMER1CAN  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:39:25am

And you thought the nightmare was over...

McCain the maverick returns with a vengeance

Two and a half months removed from his defeat in the race for the presidency, colleagues say, McCain bears more resemblance to the unpredictable and frequently bipartisan lawmaker they have served with for decades than the man who ran an often scathing campaign against Barack Obama. In some instances, he's even carrying water for his former rival.

He did this during the election too. Wonder if he wants a cabinet post to go with it.

569 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:40:20am

re: #555 Killian Bundy

But why, Obama panic? I missed the news as to why the DOW was down over 200 earlier this morning.

/there's very little fundamental reason for it, many responsible corporations are way oversold

What has he said so far that will seem tho help the situation?

Nothing. All he is going to do is spend a lot of money we don't have.

By now he should have come out with a strong statement about having faith in the strength of the American system, and identified several specific things (like tightening SEC rules on short selling and derivatives, for example).

In stead, he's signing orders to give constitutional rights to terrorists.

That increases the prospect of risk, volatility and fear for the market.

We have a President who just does not understand the markets.

570 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:40:24am

re: #568 AMER1CAN

And you thought the nightmare was over...

McCain the maverick returns with a vengeance


He did this during the election too. Wonder if he wants a cabinet post to go with it.


He should just switch his party now. It's beyond embarrassing anymore.

571 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:40:36am

re: #564 Nevergiveup

Do overs never really work.


All the dirty laundry has been washed and she might be ok with a man that will stand up for her against the MSM

572 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:40:47am

re: #563 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Theodore Roosevelt: "Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to take rank with those poor, timid spirits who know neither victory nor defeat."


Our greatest president, in my opinion.

573 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:41:08am

re: #564 Nevergiveup

Do overs never really work.


Yeah? really now... tell Reagan that. He lost the GOP nomination the first time he tried.

574 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:41:46am

re: #562 rightside

I think they will automatically blame Bush for the leftover hatred. Even 3 and-a-half years later, they would. I would wager a great deal of money on my assertion.

I'm not taking the other side of that bet

575 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:42:20am

re: #566 shanec99[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

576 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:42:22am

re: #572 Wyatt Earp

Our greatest president, in my opinion.

Well, you were in your, what? Thirties when he was President?

/

577 Render  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:43:00am

Now that'll get the black helicopter crowd stirred up...

A stealth regency or a hidden junta of top ranking DNC operatives covering up for a wholly incompetent president?

GANG
OF
FOUR,
R

578 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:43:17am

re: #573 shanec99

Yeah? really now... tell Reagan that. He lost the GOP nomination the first time he tried.

He lost the nomination. That is alot different than having run for the Presidency or VP and lost and then running again. Huge difference.

579 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:43:35am

re: #569 3 wood

What has he said so far that will seem tho help the situation?

Nothing. All he is going to do is spend a lot of money we don't have.

By now he should have come out with a strong statement about having faith in the strength of the American system, and identified several specific things (like tightening SEC rules on short selling and derivatives, for example).

In stead, he's signing orders to give constitutional rights to terrorists.

That increases the prospect of risk, volatility and fear for the market.

We have a President who just does not understand the markets hates capitalism.

580 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:43:46am

re: #576 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pssh shows what you know FBV Wyatt was Teddy's first commander.

581 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:44:14am

re: #562 rightside

I think they will automatically blame Bush for the leftover hatred. Even 3 and-a-half years later, they would. I would wager a great deal of money on my assertion.

They will always look for a scape goat for their failures. The apartheid government is still being blamed for South Africa's woes 14 years after the ANC came to power. Easier to blame than accept responsibility.

582 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:44:19am

re: #576 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, you were in your, what? Thirties when he was President?

/

29! How dare you!

/

583 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:44:22am

Connexive Logic

Connexive logic is a comparatively little-known and to some extent neglected branch of nonclassical logic. Systems of connexive logic are neither subsystems nor extensions of classical logic. Connexive logics have a standard logical vocabulary and comprise certain non-theorems of classical logic as theses. Since classical propositional logic is Post-complete, any additional axiom in its language gives rise to the trivial system, so that any non-trivial system of connexive logic will have to leave out some theorems of classical logic. The name ‘connexive logic’ suggests that systems of connexive logic are motivated by some ideas about coherence or connection between premises and conclusions of valid inferences or between formulas of a certain shape. The kind of coherence in question concerns the meaning of implication and negation. One basic idea is that no formula provably implies or is implied by its own negation. This conception may be expressed by requiring that for every formula A,

/I've taken college logic classes with all the symbols and equations but I can;'t make heads nor tails out of this, toss up, anyone?

584 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:44:58am

re: #580 Rustler

Pssh shows what you know FBV Wyatt was Teddy's first commander.

I told him to speak softly and carry a big gun.

585 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:45:17am
586 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:45:20am

re: #579 MandyManners

Good morning, Mandy!

587 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:45:42am

re: #583 Killian Bundy

If I knew we were going to get tested this early I wouldn't have started taking drugs so soon?

588 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:45:50am

re: #566 shanec99

Please provide link.

/'English First' proposal defeated in Nashville

589 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:46:29am

re: #584 Wyatt Earp
Were you still calling em Thundersticks back hen and thats from wence the stick ending on teddy's originates?

590 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:48:01am

re: #589 Rustler

Were you still calling em Thundersticks back hen and thats from wence the stick ending on teddy's originates?

No, I said that President McKinley acts like he has a stick in his ass. The rest is history. :)

591 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:48:10am

re: #583 Killian Bundy
A liberal explanation for $h!t happens

592 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:48:50am

re: #568 AMER1CAN

And you thought the nightmare was over...

McCain the maverick returns with a vengeance


He did this during the election too. Wonder if he wants a cabinet post to go with it.

We paved the way for BO to win. The media fawns over McCain, praises him in glowing terms, we (not all but most), fall for it, and then wonder why they turn on him when it is him and BO. It was all part of their master plan of getting BO elected.

The only thing that surprised them was Palin - and they were certainly ticked by that - and showed it.

593 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:49:17am
594 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:49:22am

re: #578 Nevergiveup

In fact the second time around they even savaged him... anyone remember the stories that he cheated on Jane Wyman before he married Nancy?
Anyone remember how they ignored his stint as Califonia's Gov and said he was just a washed up "B" movie actor who was unprepred to be President?
Anyone remember how they called him racist?
The attacks on Palin were similar to the attacks on Reagan... the difference is that Reagan "slapped" the poop out of during the campaign. Palin needs to look at what Ronnie did to them.

595 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:49:34am

With 100 percent of precincts reporting, unofficial results showed the "English First" proposal was defeated on a vote of 41,752 to 32,144.

About 10 percent of Nashville's nearly 600,000 people speak a language other than English in their homes, according to census data. The city is 5 percent Hispanic and home to the nation's largest Kurdish community and refugees from Southeast Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

Does that voter turnout seem kinda low to anyone else? 2.4 kids per family should mean about 250k voting adults right?

596 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:51:45am

re: #593 taxfreekiller

McCain is on the dark side now, do not look, its nasty.

He will vote with Obama on almost every issue until we get him out of the Senate and back to selling beer for his wife's beer company.

His only thing now revenge and push the Amnesty down on us, that is his only wish, a last I told you so.
He has been meeting with the Democrats more than Republicans, in fact he may switch.

He was on the dark side then too - that's why I shuddered at the thought of whomever won -

597 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:52:14am

re: #594 shanec99

I like Palin and she may have a chance to run for the Presidency if she bulks up her resume. I am just saying running for one of the 2 tops spots twice has never worked. I am not talking about the nominations, I am talking about the big show.

598 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:53:00am

re: #597 Nevergiveup
Yeah but we never had a black president either.///

599 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:53:27am

re: #597 Nevergiveup

I like Palin and she may have a chance to run for the Presidency if she bulks up her resume. I am just saying running for one of the 2 tops spots twice has never worked. I am not talking about the nominations, I am talking about the big show.

Nixon made it the second time around.

600 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:53:31am

re: #597 Nevergiveup

I like Palin and she may have a chance to run for the Presidency if she bulks up her resume. I am just saying running for one of the 2 tops spots twice has never worked. I am not talking about the nominations, I am talking about the big show.

She would be well to run for AK senator.

601 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:53:44am

re: #596 summergurl

He was on the dark side then too - that's why I shuddered at the thought of whomever won -


Our only choice was between a lib or Marxist

602 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:54:11am

re: #598 Rustler

Yeah but we never had a black president either.///


Of course, the MSM won't make as big a deal about the first female president, though.

603 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:54:54am
604 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:55:05am

re: #599 Bloodnok

Nixon made it the second time around.

True. Different times. I still think it's a big risk for any Party to run retreads over and over again.

605 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:55:35am

re: #600 Wyatt Earp
Senate experience is legislative Far more presidents have come from the ranks of Governorships. And the Former Governors tend to be better presidents because they have some experience dealing with and working despite Legislative branch interferance.

606 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:55:41am

re: #569 3 wood

Bush sucks, Obama sucks . . .

/DOW 7500 is the Alamo

607 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:56:13am

re: #602 Wyatt Earp

Of course, the MSM won't make as big a deal about the first female president, though.


Are you kidding... remember how they talked about the Mondale/Frerraro tecket being historic... the MSM will make a big deal out of anything that fits their agenda.

608 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:58:01am

re: #607 shanec99

Are you kidding... remember how they talked about the Mondale/Frerraro tecket being historic... the MSM will make a big deal out of anything that fits their agenda.

Exactly. You think they'll care is Palin won the presidency? Nope.

609 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:58:35am

re: #608 Wyatt Earp

Exactly. You think they'll care is Palin won the presidency? Nope.

"if" PIMF

610 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:58:57am

Good morning, everyone. I am staying home today to take care of my sick child. What a 48 hours though, huh? Welcome, King The One.

611 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 4:59:59am

re: #595 Rustler

With 100 percent of precincts reporting, unofficial results showed the "English First" proposal was defeated on a vote of 41,752 to 32,144.

About 10 percent of Nashville's nearly 600,000 people speak a language other than English in their homes, according to census data. The city is 5 percent Hispanic and home to the nation's largest Kurdish community and refugees from Southeast Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

Does that voter turnout seem kinda low to anyone else? 2.4 kids per family should mean about 250k voting adults right?

There are about 400,000 adults in Nashville.

612 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:00:51am

re: #597 Nevergiveup

I like Palin and she may have a chance to run for the Presidency if she bulks up her resume. I am just saying running for one of the 2 tops spots twice has never worked. I am not talking about the nominations, I am talking about the big show.

Nixon?

613 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:00:52am

re: #610 ArmyWife

Good morning, everyone. I am staying home today to take care of my sick child. What a 48 hours though, huh? Welcome, King The One.

How are you feeling?

614 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:00:56am
615 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:01:19am

re: #599 Bloodnok

Nixon made it the second time around.

I'm late this morning.

616 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:02:00am

re: #611 MandyManners
Man so it's even worse than I was estimating.

617 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:02:17am

12:43 Iranian ayatollah wishes Obama good luck (DPA)


I guess that is pretty innocuous, but how come it makes me feel sick to my stomach?

618 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:03:04am

re: #612 MandyManners

Nixon?

Yeah Yeah I screwed that one up. Mae Culpa. I beg for forgiveness.

619 Gella  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:03:04am

Good Morning :) and TGIF

620 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:03:22am

re: #617 Nevergiveup
I get that sick feeling anytime I hear of an Ayatollah speaking up.

621 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:04:15am

re: #620 Rustler

Think it's an after effect of the Khomeini times.

622 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:04:34am

re: #619 Gella

Good Morning :) and TGIF

Morning Gella, your avatar is ummm... interesting.

623 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:04:54am

Palestinians are rioting in the West bank near Hebron. YO Obama, how do ya like them apples?

624 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:05:10am

re: #616 Rustler

Man so it's even worse than I was estimating.

Nashville is a pretty cosmopolitan and international place.

625 Gella  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:05:40am

so, O honeymoon with press if finally over, they follow him around and ask him questions even though he doesn't want it, ha ha ha ha ha that what means to be pop star ha ha ha

626 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:05:42am

re: #617 Nevergiveup

12:43 Iranian ayatollah wishes Obama good luck (DPA)


I guess that is pretty innocuous, but how come it makes me feel sick to my stomach?

Looks like a lot of the terrorists wish him luck.

627 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:05:50am

re: #618 Nevergiveup

Yeah Yeah I screwed that one up. Mae Culpa. I beg for forgiveness.

We'll let you slide this time. Just don't do it again.

628 Gella  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:06:20am

re: #622 Erik The Red

Thank you

629 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:06:49am

re: #615 MandyManners

I'm late this morning.

You pregnant?

630 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:07:00am

So Gov Patterson has picked a congresswomen who gets a 100% rating from the NRA, is a hunter, and just had a kid. Hum? Oh and she doesn't have to much experience.

631 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:07:43am

re: #629 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You pregnant?

Duck FBV.

632 Crux Australis  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:07:47am

I've been thinking about the differences between the US and Australia as far as gender issues and women's involvement in politics. Up until recently Australia has been racially homogenous which has allowed women's rights and political involvement to progress further than the US. I even have a female federal parliamentarian who I have voted for twice (two terms).

Meanwhile our treatment of aboriginals and Muslims (for good reason) hasn't been entirely fair. Think about the 88 Australians who died in the 2002 Bali Bombings - it's understandable.

633 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:08:44am

re: #630 Nevergiveup

So Gov Patterson has picked a congresswomen who gets a 100% rating from the NRA, is a hunter, and just had a kid. Hum? Oh and she doesn't have to much experience.

You betcha!

634 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:09:34am

re: #624 MandyManners
I mean with the low voter turnout. ~74,000 out of 400,000 voting on the Official language.

635 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:09:45am

Good morning Lizards. Day Four, America held hostage!

636 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:09:55am

Geraldo is defending Caroline Kennedy on FOX now.What a slug

637 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:10:32am

re: #635 opnion

Good morning Lizards. Day Four, America held hostage!

Morning opnion. Still keeping up with the count I see.

638 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:10:56am

re: #613 Bloodnok

Thanks for thinking of me. Much better. Almost human even!

639 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:11:44am

re: #636 Nevergiveup He's hoping to be the next other man.

640 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:11:55am

re: #634 Rustler

I mean with the low voter turnout. ~74,000 out of 400,000 voting on the Official language.

To me that seems about normal for a non-election referendum vote.

641 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:12:02am

G-D I think I hate Geraldo more than Sharpton

642 yesandno  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:12:07am

Re 20012:
Think one of the guys to look at seriously is Mark Sandford, Gov of SC. He seems to walk the walk, talk the talk.

Mostly, we all have to understand our values and find a person that reflects that and rally around them. We can't look for a Republican 'Messiah" like the big 0. Rather we have to look at the ideas and select accordingly.

Think Rush is right...when a conservative runs as a conservative, they tend to be successful. Liberals always run liberal even though we might think they are centrist. They are what they are and never are ashamed (and yes, they should be a lot of the time). That is what we need in a candidate: Holds strong to principles and doesn't try to accommodate every lobbying group in the country.

643 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:12:20am

re: #629 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You pregnant?

There's a star in the east?

644 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:12:34am

Was anybody here not proud to say they're an American the last eight years?
Is anybody here not proud to say they're an American now?
Was anybody here not proud to say they support their president the last eight years?
Is anybody here not proud to say hey support their president now?

645 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:12:48am

re: #643 MandyManners
Nah you were late : P

646 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:12:53am

re: #623 Nevergiveup

They wouldn't be if we would open up the borders for commerce and aid.

///Friend of Israel indeed.

647 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:13:22am

re: #644 Who Watches the Watchmen?
We don't have to support this president he will be supporting us.

648 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:13:23am

re: #643 MandyManners

There's a star in the east?

Mandy you really have to get out more?

649 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:13:38am

On the topic of do-overs who eventually won the Presidency, I'll add Jefferson, Jackson, William Henry Harrison, and the Hercules of do-overs: Grover Cleveland.

650 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:13:52am

re: #643 MandyManners

There's a star in the east?

And three wise men enroute to your house.

651 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:14:17am

re: #644 Who Watches the Watchmen?
NO, Sorta, No, Voting present on this one.

652 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:14:45am

re: #637 Erik The Red

Morning opnion. Still keeping up with the count I see.


Good Morning. I have six more fingers & ten toes, so I'm good until I run out of digits.

653 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:15:01am

re: #646 ArmyWife

They wouldn't be if we would open up the borders for commerce and aid.

///Friend of Israel indeed.

Well were talking West Bank here. Them borders are open. Not that I would expect the Palestinians to do anything productive with them.

654 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:15:14am

re: #652 opnion
So whose linking the count down today.

655 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:15:16am

re: #643 MandyManners

There's a star in the east?

2M see
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

656 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:15:37am

re: #641 Nevergiveup

G-D I think I hate Geraldo more than Sharpton

Geraldo certainly talks a lot more than Sharpton.

657 Tigger2005  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:16:17am

OT:

I believe the world was created by Iluvatar (Eru) and the music of the Ainur. The Silmarillion, specifically the Ainulindale, tells me so. I believe the Sun and Moon are vessels holding a golden fruit of Telperion and a silver flower of Laurelin, the Two Trees of Valinor, and are pulled through the skies by Maiar spirits. I believe there is a star in the sky that is actually a Silmaril bound on the brow of Earendil the Mariner, who eternally voyages the heavens in his mighty ship Vingilot.

I demand that Middle-earth creation science be taught in schools!

658 quickjustice  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:16:55am

re: #117 BatGuano

Richard III

659 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:17:04am

Since Blago hearing the media talk about Anyone's Bid for the senate makes me think 2x just in case they mean actual bids.

660 abolitionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:17:37am

re: #449 Jim in Virginia

Don't cross the ONE.
Look how he's punished Hilary Clinton. If she can't make peace in the Mideast and tame Pakistan and Putin, she' failed not just him but the whole world.

Morning all!

Let's see, Hillary gave up her NY senate seat to be Sec of State, a position that is served at the pleasure of the President. Hmmm.

661 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:17:45am

re: #657 Tigger2005

OT:

I believe the world was created by Iluvatar (Eru) and the music of the Ainur. The Silmarillion, specifically the Ainulindale, tells me so. I believe the Sun and Moon are vessels holding a golden fruit of Telperion and a silver flower of Laurelin, the Two Trees of Valinor, and are pulled through the skies by Maiar spirits. I believe there is a star in the sky that is actually a Silmaril bound on the brow of Earendil the Mariner, who eternally voyages the heavens in his mighty ship Vingilot.

I demand that Middle-earth creation science be taught in schools!

I didn't think you could go OT on a hopen thread. But you did with that one/

662 vapig  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:18:14am

re: #594 shanec99

Good morning, everybody!

I do remember all the "Bedtime for Bonzo," references. As ineffectual as they tried to marginalize him, Reagan was still a pillar of virtue compared to Carter. Even as a lib (I'm reformed now) it was an easy choice for me.

663 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:18:23am

Morning, Lizards.

664 kcladderman  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:18:36am

re: #632 Crux Australis

I've been thinking about the differences between the US and Australia as far as gender issues and women's involvement in politics. Up until recently Australia has been racially homogenous which has allowed women's rights and political involvement to progress further than the US. I even have a female federal parliamentarian who I have voted for twice (two terms).

Meanwhile our treatment of aboriginals and Muslims (for good reason) hasn't been entirely fair. Think about the 88 Australians who died in the 2002 Bali Bombings - it's understandable.

What?

665 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:18:36am

re: #657 Tigger2005

OT:

I believe the world was created by Iluvatar (Eru) and the music of the Ainur. The Silmarillion, specifically the Ainulindale, tells me so. I believe the Sun and Moon are vessels holding a golden fruit of Telperion and a silver flower of Laurelin, the Two Trees of Valinor, and are pulled through the skies by Maiar spirits. I believe there is a star in the sky that is actually a Silmaril bound on the brow of Earendil the Mariner, who eternally voyages the heavens in his mighty ship Vingilot.

I demand that Middle-earth creation science be taught in schools!

All your brown acid are belong to us.

666 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:18:44am

Have you all seen the Obama call to public service commercials?
He calls to "Renew America", you know like it is not that swell now.
That follows his campaign theme.

667 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:19:24am

re: #654 Rustler

So whose linking the count down today.

Don't know.

668 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:19:41am

re: #666 opnion

Have you all seen the Obama call to public service commercials?
He calls to "Renew America", you know like it is not that swell now.
That follows his campaign theme.

Reminds me of that President who spoke of a "Malaise" in America. Now who was that Putz?

669 quickjustice  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:19:44am

Nailed it!: N.Y.Governor Paterson's pick for Hillary's U.S. Senate seat: Upstate Democratic Congresswoman Kirstin Gillebrand

Interesting watching Caroline flame out. Rumors: tax problems, nanny problems, marital problems.

670 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:19:59am

re: #666 opnion

If I renew America, does that mean I can keep it out for another 2 weeks?

671 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:20:01am

re: #9 itellu3times

What kind of oath will he take today?

I promise to do my duty
To do my best
To help the Girl Scouts
Get undressed

Oh wait, that's the Secretary of State's husband.

672 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:20:11am

re: #653 Nevergiveup

I know, just angry that he called for that in Gaza and thought I'd throw it in there. Frustrated that many Jews supported this ignorant [deleted] thinking he was their ally, despite being told he would do just this. Frustrated my party won't get their heads out of their fourth point of contact and call things straight up for fear of being labeled "uncooperative". I understand Hillary won't tolerate divisive any more, anyway.

673 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:20:18am

re: #669 quickjustice

Nailed it!: N.Y.Governor Paterson's pick for Hillary's U.S. Senate seat: Upstate Democratic Congresswoman Kirstin Gillebrand

Interesting watching Caroline flame out. Rumors: tax problems, nanny problems, marital problems.

But she "bowed out" of her own accord. Uh-huh.

674 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:20:38am

Haha on the topic of Obama as a Shakespeare character.

Sorry Eve, Obama's not Henry V. Bush is clearly Prince Hal/Henry V:
Dissolute youth
Father was king/president
Launched a foreign war on dubious pretenses
Often listens to a fat man who gives him bad advice

I think Obama is a bit like Hamlet: intelligent, cerebral, gives good speeches/soliloquies, occasionally slow to act. McCain had some Macbeth in him--respected warrior who does shady things trying to gain power.

from [Link: www.brainwaveweb.com...]

675 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:20:42am

re: #669 quickjustice

Nailed it!: N.Y.Governor Paterson's pick for Hillary's U.S. Senate seat: Upstate Democratic Congresswoman Kirstin Gillebrand

Interesting watching Caroline flame out. Rumors: tax problems, nanny problems, marital problems.

It's sad that in these times qualification or lack thereof is not an issue.

676 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:21:09am

re: #608 Wyatt Earp

Exactly. You think they'll care is Palin won the presidency? Nope.

Indeed. The press did all they could to tear Sarah down.

677 quickjustice  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:21:26am

re: #632 Crux Australis

My brother returned from his first trip to Sydney last night. It was 94 degrees. He loved it. Said the beaches are the best he's ever seen. And the women . . .

678 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:21:50am

re: #666 opnion

I'm checking "hell no" on my starbucks cup. You?

679 CIA Reject  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:21:51am

re: #659 Rustler

Since Blago hearing the media talk about Anyone's Bid for the senate makes me think 2x just in case they mean actual bids.

Speaking of Blago, how fast did that whole thing get flushed down the memory hole? The last I heard of it was a quick report on Naked Propaganda Radio (NPR) that dismissed the whole affair as an "embarrassment" for BO.

Does anybody here think that if the same situation had transpired around President Bush that the media would have written it off as an "embarrassment"?

I didn't think so.

Good Morning Everybody!

680 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:21:55am

re: #672 ArmyWife

I know, just angry that he called for that in Gaza and thought I'd throw it in there. Frustrated that many Jews supported this ignorant [deleted] thinking he was their ally, despite being told he would do just this. Frustrated my party won't get their heads out of their fourth point of contact and call things straight up for fear of being labeled "uncooperative". I understand Hillary won't tolerate divisive any more, anyway.

Yeah I know how you feel. My stomach is queasy all day long now a days just thinking of who is the White House and Foggy Bottom.

681 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:22:02am

A strange note from the AP this morning:
CAIRO, Egypt – An Internet posting purportedly by al-Qaida in Yemen says the group's No. 2 is a Saudi national who is a former Guantanamo detainee.

682 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:22:42am

re: #660 abolitionist

Let's see, Hillary gave up her NY senate seat to be Sec of State, a position that is served at the pleasure of the President. Hmmm.

Yes. Hmmm. I wonder what she thought she could gain from that one.

683 yesandno  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:23:32am

re: #666 opnion

Have you all seen the Obama call to public service commercials?
He calls to "Renew America", you know like it is not that swell now.
That follows his campaign theme.

His whole presidency will be like that...one long campaign. Everything he has said so far sounds like he is still running for office.

684 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:23:38am

re: #673 Wyatt Earp

Someone on here was saying it was Clintonesque - something about leaking all kinds of trash, but there was no link or support. Pure speculation? Anyone here anything concrete or close to concrete she went down for crossing Hillary?

685 CIA Reject  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:24:15am

re: #657 Tigger2005

OT:

I believe the world was created by Iluvatar (Eru) and the music of the Ainur. The Silmarillion, specifically the Ainulindale, tells me so. I believe the Sun and Moon are vessels holding a golden fruit of Telperion and a silver flower of Laurelin, the Two Trees of Valinor, and are pulled through the skies by Maiar spirits. I believe there is a star in the sky that is actually a Silmaril bound on the brow of Earendil the Mariner, who eternally voyages the heavens in his mighty ship Vingilot.

I demand that Middle-earth creation science be taught in schools!

Hey- I'm reading that book right now. Little Reject gave it to me for Christmas. Great story from a great mind. Tolkein is definitely someone with whom I would have enjoyed sharing a few pints...

686 kcladderman  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:25:06am

re: #683 yesandno

His whole presidency will be like that...one long campaign. Everything he has said so far sounds like he is still running for office.

Well he does have experience at that.

687 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:25:31am

re: #681 Who Watches the Watchmen?

A strange note from the AP this morning:
CAIRO, Egypt – An Internet posting purportedly by al-Qaida in Yemen says the group's No. 2 is a Saudi national who is a former Guantanamo detainee.

But, it's all Bush's fault for locking his sorry ass up.

/do I have to?

688 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:25:43am

I tried to express this about Mitchell earlier, but as usual the pros do a better job. Good luck with this 44. They will hand you your ass.

Obama envoy's false premise

One of the great misconceptions Senator Mitchell has about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is that "if it worked in Northern Ireland it can work with the Israel/Palestinian conflict. That argument is as relevant as saying Michael Jackson should play Quarterback for the Tennessee Titans because both the singer and Vince Young are African Americans. There is little relationship between the two.

689 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:26:25am

re: #682 unreconstructed rebel

Yes. Hmmm. I wonder what she thought she could gain from that one.


Pelosi and Reid would not give her the time of day
And serving with Franken was out of the question

690 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:26:44am
691 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:26:51am

re: #668 Nevergiveup

Reminds me of that President who spoke of a "Malaise" in America. Now who was that Putz?

Hmmm, let me think. Was he attacked by a killer rabbit.

692 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:28:14am

re: #688 Erik The Red

I tried to express this about Mitchell earlier, but as usual the pros do a better job. Good luck with this 44. They will hand you your ass.

Obama envoy's false premise

One of the great misconceptions Senator Mitchell has about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is that "if it worked in Northern Ireland it can work with the Israel/Palestinian conflict. That argument is as relevant as saying Michael Jackson should play Quarterback for the Tennessee Titans because both the singer and Vince Young are African Americans. There is little relationship between the two.

That is excellent, but it only scratches the surface. Israel better get that extra large jar of Vaseline out.

693 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:28:43am

?re: #683 yesandno

His whole presidency will be like that...one long campaign. Everything he has said so far sounds like he is still running for office.

Every Inaugural Ball that he went to he talked about the Campaign.
I don't think that he got the memo.

694 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:29:08am

re: #689 ThinkRight

Pelosi and Reid would not give her the time of day
And serving with Franken was out of the question

Ok! ;-)

Makes sense. She now has a stage Reid can do nothing about.

695 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:29:37am

Presidential Portrait

Damn that is one fast painter. hahaha

696 Irish Rose  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:29:57am

Morning, lizardom.
Another cold and dreary morning along the Lake Michigan shoreline, trying to recouperate from a 12 hour workday yesterday.

I see we had an open registration last night... any live ones?

697 abolitionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:30:22am

re: #693 opnion

?

Every Inaugural Ball that he went to he talked about the Campaign.
I don't think that he got the memo.

Maybe he's just starting early, like he did in '04.

698 Tigger2005  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:30:38am

re: #657 Tigger2005

OT:

I believe the world was created by Iluvatar (Eru) and the music of the Ainur. The Silmarillion, specifically the Ainulindale, tells me so. I believe the Sun and Moon are vessels holding a golden fruit of Telperion and a silver flower of Laurelin, the Two Trees of Valinor, and are pulled through the skies by Maiar spirits. I believe there is a star in the sky that is actually a Silmaril bound on the brow of Earendil the Mariner, who eternally voyages the heavens in his mighty ship Vingilot.

I demand that Middle-earth creation science be taught in schools!

I have blasphemed--I got my trees backwards. Laurelin was the golden one, Telperion was the silver one.

May a Balrog wrap his flaming whip about me, and cast me into the Pit of Ungoliant, where the unlight shall devour me.

699 Crux Australis  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:30:40am

re: #664 kcladderman

What?

I was just comparing the US and Australia's attitude to women in politics. Things that the MSM in Australia and the MSM in the US make news about are very different. For example the $150k that the RNC spent for Sarah Palin and her family for the campaign would never have been an issue in Australia.

I spent the entire 2008 campaign scratching my head, firstly about Hillary Clinton and then about Sarah Palin.

700 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:31:05am

re: #697 abolitionist

Maybe he's just starting early, like he did in '04.

Yup

701 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:31:05am

"Transparent-ish"? The press is already starting to hate Obama. They had forgotten what double speak was.

702 Phobosmanis  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:31:11am

Change! So Obama wants the people in Israel to die from homicide bombers instead of rockets.

[Link: www.ft.com...]

This is going to be a bad 4-8 years.

703 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:31:17am

re: #694 unreconstructed rebel

Ok! ;-)

Makes sense. She now has a stage Reid can do nothing about.


She will be gone by Thanksgiving
With a senate investigation

704 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:31:19am

re: #679 CIA Reject

CNN just announced Blago may be suing to block his Impeachment. Well if his lawyers can figure it all out they both offer different stories.

705 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:31:24am

re: #696 Irish Rose

Morning, lizardom.
Another cold and dreary morning along the Lake Michigan shoreline, trying to recouperate from a 12 hour workday yesterday.

I see we had an open registration last night... any live ones?

Morning IR. All alive but none ready for bbq yet/

706 quickjustice  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:31:25am

I commented a few threads ago on Obama's inaugural speech. No mention of "freedom", "liberty", "new birth", opposing "tyranny", or similar old-fashioned American patriotic concepts demonstrating our exceptional status as a nation. Just "peace", "dignity", "hard work", virtues of the Worker's Paradise, and virtues common to all nations, including socialist nations.

Then it hit me: Obama wasn't speaking to middle class America, where those virtues, e.g., "hard word" already are well established. He was speaking to the black community where they are an issue. He targeted that audience for his speech.

Obama's Presidency is therapy for the black community and the left. How well therapy works as statecraft remain to be seen.

707 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:31:36am

re: #691 opnion

Hmmm, let me think. Was he attacked by a killer rabbit.

Did he pardon draft dodgers?

708 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:31:46am

re: #696 Irish Rose

The ones I saw were very nice.

709 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:31:49am

DAVE PICKS GILLIBRAND AS LIBERAL DEMS HOWL

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

How do you make a liberal howl?

710 kcladderman  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:32:40am

re: #699 Crux Australis

I was just comparing the US and Australia's attitude to women in politics. Things that the MSM in Australia and the MSM in the US make news about are very different. For example the $150k that the RNC spent for Sarah Palin and her family for the campaign would never have been an issue in Australia.

I spent the entire 2008 campaign scratching my head, firstly about Hillary Clinton and then about Sarah Palin.

Well the 150k spent on clothes was a big deal because Sarah was a Rebublican not because she was a woman.

711 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:32:44am

re: #684 ArmyWife
Not really Machiavellian enough for a Hillary job in my Opinion.

712 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:33:29am

re: #690 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He revealed that he had already gotten in two work outs since being sworn in Tuesday.

"Turns out I have a little gym up there," he said with a smile.

Obama said he had watched press secretary Robert Gibbs debut briefing "in anticipation of some flop sweat. ... I just want to thank you for not completely ripping up Gibbs," Obama said.

"I am very proud of him today. He got a fist bump from me."

Heaven help us all.

713 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:33:57am

re: #702 Phobosmanis

Change! So Obama wants the people in Israel to die from homicide bombers instead of rockets.

[Link: www.ft.com...]

This is going to be a bad 4-8 years.

fixed for all our sanity.

714 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:34:21am

re: #709 Nevergiveup

DAVE PICKS GILLIBRAND AS LIBERAL DEMS HOWL

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

How do you make a liberal howl?

Tell him to open his eyes?

715 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:35:23am

re: #714 unreconstructed rebel

Tell him to open his eyes?

Telling to open their eyes does no good. You have to make them open their eyes.

716 CIA Reject  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:35:48am

re: #704 Rustler

CNN just announced Blago may be suing to block his Impeachment. Well if his lawyers can figure it all out they both offer different stories.

Interesting- that's the same thing, essentially, that I heard two weeks ago when any connection to BO was minimized as an "embarrassment". So either the case is developing very slowly or the MSM is losing interest.

I think it's the latter, but that's just me...

717 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:35:56am

re: #701 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Honestly, that is the best thing that can happen. The press got us this nincompoop because where they lead, the soft-minded left follow. If the press can get them to turn on The One, all the better for us. One caveat, we better BETTER start to get a clear and concise message going from our side of the aisle least the press pick a new ding dong to crown.

718 quickjustice  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:36:09am

re: #714 unreconstructed rebel

As a New Yorker, I can tell you "shark tank" doesn't begin to describe Democratic politics in this state, especially when they're fighting each other.

719 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:36:36am

re: #709 Nevergiveup

Scream "Reagan Rules" and run?

720 Crux Australis  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:37:03am

re: #710 kcladderman

Well the 150k spent on clothes was a big deal because Sarah was a Rebublican not because she was a woman.

Maybe the MSM in Australia is more apolitical than the US. Or at least it tries to appear to be.

721 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:37:06am

re: #707 Wyatt Earp

Did he pardon draft dodgers?


It's becoming more clear, but I need more.

722 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:37:39am

re: #721 opnion

It's becoming more clear, but I need more.

I think he had an unhealthy obsession with peanuts. :)

723 CIA Reject  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:37:56am

Well, I have to go do some work.

BBL

724 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:38:12am

re: #721 opnion

It's becoming more clear, but I need more.

I think he had an ignorant drunken brother and he has some funny ideas about Jews?

725 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:38:20am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

Love this pic - summertime in Sydney

Brings back memories of when we were young enough to hop into fountains to cool off :-)

Now I have to worry about my walking frame getting rusty :-)

726 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:38:37am

re: #723 CIA Reject

Well, I have to go do some work.

BBL

This of us on the dole appreciate your good efforts.

///

727 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:39:23am

Those - crap.

728 legalpad  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:39:41am

re: #632 Crux Australis

Think about the 88 Australians who died in the 2002 Bali Bombings - it's understandable.

Understandable - if we understand the somewhat random killing of similar individuals as "justified". I think that may be under the category of racism. I think somebody needs to fish or cut bait on the issue of racism. Either we just go ahead and have a big race war, or we quit killing civilians with lame excuses.

Muslims only want a race war as long as "we" are not racist. I have not mistreated any individual or group. If somebody decides that I somehow remotely supported someone who did, I do not accept that reasoning, and will hold them personally responsible for what they do to me or mine.

729 Irish Rose  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:40:48am

Did you guys see this? Heh.

The One decends from on high to tour the offices of the White House Press Corps.

Obama made it to the back of the briefing room, in a narrow hallway, where he shook hands.

"I've got to say, it's smaller than I thought," the president said as he looked around for the first time.

As he walked through the area where journalists have lunch, Obama noticed a pair of vending machines that dispense soda and junk food.

"Looks like you have some healthy snacks, guys," Obama said.

Then he walked through the basement quarters, where several other news outlets set up shop. He said that was smaller than he expected too.


And don't ask me unscripted questions on the fly, you peasants.

730 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:40:58am

re: #724 Nevergiveup

I think he had an ignorant drunken brother and he has some funny ideas about Jews?


Did he an Evangelist sister & a Mouthe named Miss Lillian?

731 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:42:41am

re: #730 opnion

Did he an Evangelist sister & a Mouthe named Miss Lillian?

Maybe but I also think his daughter was an expert on Nuclear Weapons?

732 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:42:53am

re: #717 ArmyWife

Preach it, Sister!

733 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:43:02am

"I've got to say, it's smaller than I thought," the president said as he looked around for the first time.

And strangely enough, he was talking about his, um, Little O.

734 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:43:18am
A new report published Thursday by West Point's Combating Terrorism Center says that security in Yemen is the problem. Gregory Johnsen of Princeton University's Near Eastern Studies Program co-authored the report. He points to the case of Qasim al-Raymi, who he says is second in command of al-Qaida in Yemen. Raymi's younger brother is being held at Guantanamo.

"So what happens when this younger brother, his name is Ali al-Raymi, is released in Yemen," says Johnsen. "Does he go and join his brothers, does this act as sort of a shot in the arm for al-Qaida? I think that's the main concern for the U.S. government, that there's potential that individuals they once had in prison would then carry out attacks."

From NPR For whoever it was that was asking about top level AQ operatives being released from Gittmo.

735 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:43:36am

re: #731 Nevergiveup

Maybe but I also think his daughter was an expert on Nuclear Weapons?


We're gettintg close.

736 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:44:09am

re: #733 Wyatt Earp

Well, he is half white.

737 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:46:07am

re: #735 opnion

We're gettintg close.

I don't believe it, but someone told me the dope gave away the Panama Canal? If that narrows it down?

738 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:46:38am

re: #502 Killian Bundy

You are pretty good at snot-faced name-calling, but unfortunately your reply betrays your unwillingness to look past the end of your speculative nose.

739 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:47:37am

re: #736 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Got the bad half of the gene pool there I guess.

740 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:49:03am

re: #728 legalpad

Islam is not a race. There are Muslims of every race. There are non-Muslims of every race. The terms "racism" or "race war" are meaningless in this context.

741 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:50:09am

Anyone else going "wheels on the bus go round and round"?

742 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:50:39am

re: #741 Erik The Red

Anyone else going "wheels on the bus go round and round"?

And BHO is about to throw more "trusted advisers" under them.

743 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:50:51am

re: #740 Kenneth
Yep what we have here is a religious war. Theocracism I think is the proper term for religious pregidous.

744 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:51:21am

Good Morning Lizards! TGIF!
How is everyone this fine day?

745 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:51:23am

re: #682 unreconstructed rebel

Yes. Hmmm. I wonder what she thought she could gain from that one.

Hillary will make one hell of a formidable Presidential candidate if she has a good tour at the State Department.
Who will have the credentials to compete with her?
Who will say she is unqualified to serve as President after being so close in line for succession.
Having completed a national campaign on her own and twice leading to her spot as First Lady she will be formidable in four or eight years.

746 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:52:05am

re: #742 Wyatt Earp
Nah red is referencing that theres to many under the bus so the wheels just free spin. Obama is looking at getting greyhound to doante a fleet of buses for his presidency.

747 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:53:36am

re: #745 shanec99 State doesn't bode well for turning the position into an election win. Her time in state havingto be diplomatic is likely what made Condi a non contender or nonthought this last election.

748 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:53:56am

re: #270 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

I think we should be allowed to double-ding the perfectly timed fruit-cup

Just a thought

749 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:54:36am

re: #748 Stonemason
Lol has a Macro that does it i think shes on the nose far to often:P

750 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:55:04am

re: #746 Rustler

Well, you know, in Brazil, the soccer players are only known by 1 name. What the hell does that even mean?

/shoulda invoked Madonna and Cher, too. This response makes as much sense here as it did when it was actually used by the esteemed Press Secretary.

751 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:55:38am

re: #745 shanec99

Hillary will make one hell of a formidable Presidential candidate if she has a good tour at the State Department.
Who will have the credentials to compete with her?
Who will say she is unqualified to serve as President after being so close in line for succession.
Having completed a national campaign on her own and twice leading to her spot as First Lady she will be formidable in four or eight years.

So, she's banking that Garlic Head will trip & fall & that she is the heir apparent? That will also require that the Republicans are still wandering around in the wilderness wondering what happened. Sounds like a hail-Mary pass to me.

752 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:56:31am

re: #728 legalpad

Muslims are waging Jihad, a type of religious war, but when one considers islam is a complete ideology with laws for everything to govern society, it isn't completely religious either. It is NOT a racial situation, not at all.

753 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:56:38am

re: #746 Rustler

Nah red is referencing that theres to many under the bus so the wheels just free spin. Obama is looking at getting greyhound to doante a fleet of buses for his presidency.

Changehound. Leave the throwing under the bus to us.

754 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:56:41am

re: #688 Erik The Red

George Mitchell is assumed appropriate for the job because he is of Lebanese decent, on his mother's side. Considering how well regarded Lebanese Christians are among Arab Muslims, the assumption is absurd.

755 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:56:43am

Shift almost over be safe all Rustler signing off.

756 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:56:55am

Later Lizards its been groovy. Play nice see you on the LN(Drinking)T

757 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:57:03am

Good morning y'all - from a moderately cool (34 degrees but going up to 60 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

758 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:57:25am

Newt is beginning to reappear on the scene. Anybody taking bets?

759 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:57:34am

re: #749 Rustler

Nah...she sits and waits for her 'puter to hit 5 seconds of, then hits post. All in the fingers!

760 fatdaddy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:57:46am

re: #743 Rustler

Yep what we have here is a religious war. Theocracism I think is the proper term for religious pregidous.

We have a Grade A mess.

761 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:57:53am

re: #744 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! TGIF!
How is everyone this fine day?

Hey 2H I was just leaving have a good one.

762 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:58:02am

re: #749 Rustler

Lol has a Macro that does it i think shes on the nose far to often:P

HERETIC! HANG THE RUSTLER! littleoldlady has slaved day in and day out to give us the perfect fruitcup. All others that say different shall be shunned, and denied the blessed event.

/I would exile you to the domain of redc1c4, but I don't think you would consider that a punishment.

763 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:58:18am

re: #740 Kenneth

Islam is not a race. There are Muslims of every race. There are non-Muslims of every race. The terms "racism" or "race war" are meaningless in this context.

You are of course correct.
Islam is a backwards religion and a fascist political ideology rolled into one.
But Islam is however running a race - a race to the bottom.

764 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:59:28am

Blech! Who put tangelos in the fruit-cup!

765 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:59:29am

re: #743 Rustler

Yep what we have here is a religious war. Theocracism I think is the proper term for religious pregidous.

religious bigotry, Islamic supremicism, Islamofascism...

766 Onslow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:59:34am

re: #688 Erik The Red

Another false premise is that Vince Young should play quarterback for the Titans.

767 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 5:59:50am

re: #760 fatdaddy

I'm pretty sure the correct term is "Cluster [deleted]". This covers the current administration, and the Islam issue.

768 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:00:17am

BBL - going to drop the youngest off at school.

769 Irish Rose  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:00:35am

re: #751 unreconstructed rebel

So, she's banking that Garlic Head will trip & fall & that she is the heir apparent? That will also require that the Republicans are still wandering around in the wilderness wondering what happened. Sounds like a hail-Mary pass to me.

The Republicans are never going to win another election until they deal with the circular firing squad on the far-right.

My two cents.

770 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:00:40am

re: #767 ArmyWife

I'm pretty sure the correct term is "Cluster [deleted]". This covers the current administration, and the Islam issue.

May I recommend the word "Cluck"? "Shuck" also works well.

771 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:00:53am

re: #757 realwest

G'morning real. All's well on the Friday morning thread. How are you doing?

772 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:01:33am

Same here in Sunny northern Virginia...globally chilled 30's going into the globally mild 50's.

773 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:02:24am

re: #771 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth - I'm doing ok, I guess - sorta tired, but ok. Lot of chores to do today, dang it!
How are you doing this fine morning?

774 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:02:29am

re: #767 ArmyWife

Use the army radio speak. It's a real Charlie Foxtrot. :)

775 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:02:45am

re: #769 Irish Rose

The Republicans are never going to win another election until they deal with the circular firing squad on the far-right.

My two cents.

Time for the resurrection of the Newt, IHMO. The party really let him down, but he is the only Republican around with ideas that can gain traction.

776 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:02:57am

Another Giant receiver shot. Real? Your boyz be sum thugs!

777 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:03:14am

re: #606 Killian Bundy

/DOW 7500 is the Alamo

Well get ready for it cause I think you will see that today.

778 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:03:14am

Kansas Fears Getting Gitmo Inmates


[Link: www.military.com...]

779 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:03:23am

re: #757 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderately cool (34 degrees but going up to 60 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Morning Real, from a very happy PPD detective. Last day of the daywork tour. I cannot wait until nightwork. Waking up at 0530 is for the birds.

780 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:03:50am

re: #772 jcbunga Morning! I'd a thought y'all would also be up around 60 or so today - especially with all that hot air coming out of the Captitol and White House!

781 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:04:14am

re: #778 Dustyvet

Kansas Fears Getting Gitmo Inmates


[Link: www.military.com...]

Morning Dusty. I think they should be sent to Illinois . . . and the White House lawn.

782 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:04:22am

re: #775 unreconstructed rebel

IHMO > IMHO - pimf. Sorry, guys, but my typing really sucks.

783 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:05:23am

re: #738 Spare O'Lake

You are pretty good at snot-faced name-calling, but unfortunately your reply betrays your unwillingness to look past the end of your speculative nose.

/well, then, feel free to lick yourself, you know you want to

784 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:05:56am

re: #699 Crux Australis

I was just comparing the US and Australia's attitude to women in politics. Things that the MSM in Australia and the MSM in the US make news about are very different. For example the $150k that the RNC spent for Sarah Palin and her family for the campaign would never have been an issue in Australia.

I spent the entire 2008 campaign scratching my head, firstly about Hillary Clinton and then about Sarah Palin.

Hello Crux! Keeping cool I hope, it's rather hot here in the SW suburbs tonight

I'm with you there - I just couldn't believe the hatred shown towards Sarah Palin, and the obvious gender discrimination towards Mrs Clinton

I know the MSM regularly bag out our prominent female pollies, but certainly not to this extent - it was truly shocking, and I'm sad that the MSM in the US (copied by ours in the BS about Mrs Palin and Mrs Clinton and their group adoration of Obama) can be so vile

As for your comment about Muslims not being treated fairly, I beg to differ - as a group of from many countries, it's very hard to be as general as that

The Muslims who make the news , usually in bad ways like those ranting clerics, the Lebanese gang rapists, the Lebanese drug dealers...
do not represent the ones I work with each day - I would say these are the ones who have joined our society successfully and don't ever make the news

Yes, for sure I don't know if it comes to the crunch in the future and for some reason, they have to hurt us to get power/religious law/make us dhimmis - there is nothing I can do right now except acknowledge they are here as Aussie citizens now and I have to accept that, while being vocal about the scum clerics and crooks who should NOT be here

One thing that crops up each Christmas - the shopping centres in areas where there are lots of Muslims do not have any Christmas decorations!

Well each year I do my Christmas shopping at these big centres, Roselands and Bankstown Square, and each year there are oodles od decorations, Christmas trees, carols playing...and Santa!

785 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:06:11am

Israel to approve aid for IDF officers accused of Gaza war crimes

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Hell of way to have to fight a war

786 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:06:19am

Newt may be OK. Anyone who can read, understand and adhere to the Constitution will do.

Meanwhile, seems to be some doubt whether it was ever actually uttered, but I love this quote from Adams:

“Posterity: you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it.”

787 quickjustice  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:06:53am

re: #775 unreconstructed rebel

Obama borrowed his line in the inaugural speech about making government work from Newt.

788 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:07:06am

By the way, Gov. Blago. is live on WLS radio out of Chicago right now, discussing the upcoming impeachment trial in the state senate next week.

I hate to say it, but he has one good point. He is going to be prevented from calling/questioning witnesses (so that he can't cross examine the prosecutions witnesses in the criminal case) during the trial in the Senate.

I'm not an attorney, but he may have a very good case of being denied due process.

789 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:07:16am

re: #776 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Good morning and huh? Who got shot and by whom?!

790 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:07:33am

Morning All!

What's up with that Drudge headline:

"Obama: This is not the time for questions"

Um... Mr. One, we have a lot of damn questions about what you think you are going to do to us and how. You get the answer them for us. Got it?

791 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:08:05am

re: #788 3 wood

By the way, Gov. Blago. is live on WLS radio out of Chicago right now, discussing the upcoming impeachment trial in the state senate next week.

I hate to say it, but he has one good point. He is going to be prevented from calling/questioning witnesses (so that he can't cross examine the prosecutions witnesses in the criminal case) during the trial in the Senate.

I'm not an attorney, but he may have a very good case of being denied due process.

Well the Illinois State Senate should stay the hell out of it till the courts are done.

792 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:08:21am

re: #777 3 wood
Good morning 3 wood, how are you doing today - got that bottle of Advil handy?!?

793 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:08:28am

re: #777 3 wood

Well get ready for it cause I think you will see that today.

/half hour to open, it'll take another bombshell to do that

794 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:08:31am

Obama to 'aggressively' seek ME peace


US President Barack Obama declared on Thursday his intention to pursue peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Yeah, good luck with that. Before you can pursue something, you have to find it. There is no evidence the Palestinian want peace.

BTW, Is there a reason why Obama chose the former chairman of the Walt Disney Company as his 'special envoy"? Is he going to meet with Assud the Killer Bunny and offer him a movie contract in exchange for "peace concessions"?

795 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:08:51am

re: #787 quickjustice

Obama borrowed his line in the inaugural speech about making government work from Newt.

So much for original thinking. heh!

796 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:08:54am

re: #781 Wyatt Earp

Morning Dusty. I think they should be sent to Illinois . . . and the White House lawn.

With my luck they'll be housed in Round Lake Beach, Illinois at my senior/disabled apartment building. Having said that, it might make life a bit interesting around here...:)

797 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:09:18am

re: #789 realwest

Good Morning Real!

A balmy 32 here today. How's yourself... when is Dusty's appointment with the BORG?

798 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:09:18am

re: #778 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - good morning! I thought you had an appoitment at the VA today? Don't tell me they're gonna work on a Friday afternoon?!?

799 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:09:25am

re: #790 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning All!

What's up with that Drudge headline:

"Obama: This is not the time for questions"

Oh silly unwashed masses. One does not ask questions of The One. Be gone you silly pheasants..I mean peasants.

800 Tigger2005  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:09:27am

Is the word Blackberry racist? Discuss.

801 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:09:39am

re: #781 Wyatt Earp

Morning Dusty. I think they should be sent to Illinois . . . and the White House lawn.

And good morning...:)

802 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:10:07am

re: #779 Wyatt Earp
Howdy Wyatt - what are the hours for night duty?

803 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:10:20am

re: #796 Dustyvet

Oops, didn't know you were with us... I'll ask directly: when's your appt?

804 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:10:54am

re: #800 Tigger2005

Is the word Blackberry racist? Discuss.

Well, I have one. Not sure yet which one of us is master & which is servant.

805 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:11:14am

re: #800 Tigger2005

Is the word Blackberry racist? Discuss.

No... it's a fruit.

Therefore homophobic. Gay Basher!

806 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:11:23am

re: #800 Tigger2005

Is the word Blackberry racist? Discuss.

Yes. They're marketed as Blackbelly in Japan.

807 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:11:31am

re: #790 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning All!

What's up with that Drudge headline:

"Obama: This is not the time for questions"

Um... Mr. One, we have a lot of damn questions about what you think you are going to do to us and how. You get the answer them for us. Got it?

Good thing he's a moderate. Republican party-menders and reformers take notice.

808 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:11:34am

re: #804 unreconstructed rebel

Well, I have one. Not sure yet which one of us is master & which is servant.

If your not sure, your the servant.

809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:12:11am

re: #789 realwest

Good morning and huh? Who got shot and by whom?!

Giants receiver shot in hand and leg in Alabama

810 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:12:17am

re: #808 Nevergiveup

If your not sure, your the servant.

I often get that creepy feeling.

811 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:13:03am

re: #798 realwest

Hey Dusty - good morning! I thought you had an appoitment at the VA today? Don't tell me they're gonna work on a Friday afternoon?!?

I Do, leaving here at about 10:30 for the appointment...and will be there at a 11:00 AM...and ready to do battle.

812 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:13:22am

re: #809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Giants receiver shot in hand and leg in Alabama

I wonder what "Bullet" Bob Hayes is doing?

813 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:13:44am

re: #802 realwest

Howdy Wyatt - what are the hours for night duty?

3pm - 11pm. Daywork is 7am - 3pm. It stinks.

814 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:14:37am

re: #811 Dustyvet

I Do, leaving here at about 10:30 for the appointment...and will be there at a 11:00 AM...and ready to do battle.

Good luck with them. Hope it all turns out the right way.

815 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:15:15am

re: #796 Dustyvet

With my luck they'll be housed in Round Lake Beach, Illinois at my senior/disabled apartment building. Having said that, it might make life a bit interesting around here...:)

You can run around eating bacon in front of them. It's win-win!

816 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:15:23am

re: #813 Wyatt Earp

3pm - 11pm. Daywork is 7am - 3pm. It stinks.

Crooks don't do anything between 11pm and 7 am ?

817 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:15:29am

re: #813 Wyatt Earp

3pm - 11pm. Daywork is 7am - 3pm. It stinks.

While I was an MP, I loved third watch.

818 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:15:32am

If 7500 is the Alamo, be of good cheer.

The Alamo fell on March 2, 1836. General Antonio de Lopez de Santa Ana was captured after the battle of San Jacinto on April 21, 1836.

So that's only like 6-7 weeks.

/

819 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:15:49am

re: #797 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT! I'm doing ok, thanks - asked Dusty the same question! LOL!
How are you doing today?

820 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:15:50am

re: #808 Nevergiveup

If your not sure, your the servant.

Are you saying our President is slave to a Blackberry? Horrors!

821 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:16:08am

re: #799 jcbunga

Oh silly unwashed masses. One does not ask questions of The One. Be gone you silly pheasants..I mean peasants.

Amerikkka's pheasantsss...are coming home...to roossst!

822 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:16:15am

re: #815 Wyatt Earp

You can run around eating bacon in front of them. It's win-win!

And if your cholesterol is too high, just wear panties on your head.

823 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:16:57am

re: #745 shanec99

Hillary will make one hell of a formidable Presidential candidate if she has a good tour at the State Department.
Who will have the credentials to compete with her?
Who will say she is unqualified to serve as President after being so close in line for succession.
Having completed a national campaign on her own and twice leading to her spot as First Lady she will be formidable in four or eight years.

Can you imagine the damage Hillary and Bill will be able to cause Obama behind the scenes? Especially someone as naive as Obama.

They are going to truss him up like a Christmas turkey.

824 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:17:19am

re: #819 realwest

Hey LT! I'm doing ok, thanks - asked Dusty the same question! LOL!
How are you doing today?

Back is good today, thanks. I was able to walk outside yesterday for the first time all winter, that always perks me up.

That and both my sons' baseball practices are getting fired up, that warms me up even more.

825 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:17:29am

re: #816 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Crooks don't do anything between 11pm and 7 am ?

That's our Last Out shift. I worked that for my first 11 years in patrol. In patrol, last out rocks - no one out but criminals, mostly - but as a detective, last out blows goats.

826 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:17:31am

re: #817 Dustyvet

While I was an MP, I loved third watch.

Was that 2000 to 0400 or 0000 to 0800? I get them mixed up...

Oh, Good Morning Lizards!

827 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:17:35am

re: #803 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Oops, didn't know you were with us... I'll ask directly: when's your appt?

11:00 AM...Hey anybody seen me sword?, This could get ugly...:)

828 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:18:24am

re: #791 Nevergiveup

Well the Illinois State Senate should stay the hell out of it till the courts are done.

They are going to throw him out of office next week cause they don't want him getting his hands on the billions of dollars they are pretty sure will be coming their way soon from Obama's Stimulus Pork Plan.

829 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:18:33am

Five dead in knife attack at Belgian nursery school

Horrific news, no word on who the killer is or what his motivation was. Shocking beyond belief.

830 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:19:17am

re: #826 Macker

Was that 2000 to 0400 or 0000 to 0800? I get them mixed up...

Oh, Good Morning Lizards!

2300-0700...:)

831 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:19:23am

re: #809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Ah, Taye Biddle who " was promoted from the Giants’ practice squad after receiver Plaxico Burress was suspended for a game in September."
At least he didn't shoot himself and police have said he's not responsible for what happened. And, unfortuantely, he'll have quite a bit of time to recover.
Giants first pick in the draft will be a WR, Second pick WR, Third Pick WR, fourth Pick - OL. Plus we'll pick up a WR in free agency!

832 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:19:28am

re: #827 Dustyvet

11:00 AM...Hey anybody seen me sword?, This could get ugly...:)

What's that BS my wife keeps feeding me? Oh... you catch more bees with honey or some such crap.

Bring some honey, I guess.

833 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:19:31am

re: #757 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a moderately cool (34 degrees but going up to 60 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

*Smooch* left cheek, and g'day {darls}

It's a hot summers night in Sydney...you know, when there are drops of sweat on the keyboard kind of weather:-)

834 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:19:44am

re: #828 3 wood

They are going to throw him out of office next week cause they don't want him getting his hands on the billions of dollars they are pretty sure will be coming their way soon from Obama's Stimulus Pork Plan.

Ahhh, Money! It's behind all of history.

835 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:19:49am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Sleety, damp-to-the-bone kind of day and that wind fro the East cuts you right down to the knees.

I'll have to put rocks in my pockets if I venture out in this wind.

*shudder*
*whimper*

:D

{realwest} Good morning, luv *smoochie* Ack! You've not shaved yet! How are you today?

836 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:19:50am

re: #828 3 wood

They are going to throw him out of office next week cause they don't want him getting his hands on the billions of dollars they are pretty sure will be coming their way soon from Obama's Stimulus Pork Plan.

Sounds like as good a reason as any to me. Off with his pork!

/The punishment for the crime is nothing. The punishment for getting caught is severe.

837 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:20:08am

re: #829 Kenneth

Five dead in knife attack at Belgian nursery school

Horrific news, no word on who the killer is or what his motivation was. Shocking beyond belief.

More Youts... nothing to see her folks, move along.

838 quickjustice  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:20:48am

re: #788 3 wood

Impeachment is a political process. Due process is required for a criminal prosecution in the courts, but I'm don't believe it's strictly required during all phases of an impeachment. I don't know Illinois procedure, but during Clinton's impeachment, for example, the House of Representatives preferred the charges (like a prosecuting attorney), which were then tried and judged in the U.S. Senate. Due process concerns would only be appropriate in the U.S. Senate, not in the House.

And criminal due process would not be strictly observed in a legislative setting in any event. It's impossible, because every sitting legislator sits as a judge who eventually votes on whether to remove the accused from office. In Clinton's case, Hustler publisher Larry Flynt had offered a cash "bounty" for information about sexual misconduct committed by any member of the Congress. That information gave him the ability to blackmail any member of Congress who voted to impeach or to convict. I thought it was akin to jury tampering, but in that political circus atmosphere, Flynt never was held to account.

It's a good idea for the politicians advocating for removal of a governor from office to create at least the appearance of fairness during an impeachment proceeding. There are serious political consequences if you don't.

839 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:20:53am

re: #832 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

What's that BS my wife keeps feeding me? Oh... you catch more bees with honey or some such crap.

Bring some honey, I guess.

I always heard "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" and remember thinking "if I'm hunting flies over bait, why not just use crap?"

/

840 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:20:57am

re: #831 realwest

Not blamin' the victim here...just sayin...

841 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:21:17am

re: #792 realwest

Good morning 3 wood, how are you doing today - got that bottle of Advil handy?!?

Got a busy day scheduled, will have to leave shortly for most of the rest of the day.

Oh, once you know the market is going to drop like a rock, it's not so bad. Eventually we will recover from this, despite Obama. It's just a matter of how much damage he does to us in the mean time.

How did you come through the snow? OK?

842 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:21:25am

U.S. Secures New Supply Routes to Afghanistan


Faced with the risk that Taliban attacks could imperil the main supply route for NATO troops in Afghanistan, the United States military has obtained permission to move troop supplies through Russia and Central Asia, Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top American commander in the Middle East, said on Tuesday.

Ok... and what does Russia get? Because Putin is not doing this out of the kindness of his heart.

843 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:21:29am

re: #835 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Sleety, damp-to-the-bone kind of day and that wind fro the East cuts you right down to the knees.

I'll have to put rocks in my pockets if I venture out in this wind.

*shudder*
*whimper*

:D

{realwest} Good morning, luv *smoochie* Ack! You've not shaved yet! How are you today?


good Morning miss trixie..Keep warm!

844 vapig  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:21:58am

re: #709 Nevergiveup

DAVE PICKS GILLIBRAND AS LIBERAL DEMS HOWL

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

How do you make a liberal howl?

Hard to tell since they are in perpetual "howler" mode.

845 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:22:05am

re: #839 OldLineTexan

I always heard "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" and remember thinking "if I'm hunting flies over bait, why not just use crap?"

/

OK... Dusty needs to bring a jar of Honey and a bag of crap. Leave the Vinegar at home...

846 gregg  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:22:17am

Yesterday, Geithner/Obama pissed off the Chinese by accusing them of manipulating the Yuan. While this may be true, it seems stupid to do that when you will need them to purchase all those treasuries needed for a trillion dollar stimulus package. I'm not a smart man, so maybe I'm missing the strategy of the new administration. Can anyone explain it to me?

847 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:22:26am

Waiting for the opening bell.

848 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:22:30am

re: #837 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Lone attacker, male, his face was painted white with his eyes painted black. that's the only description of him so far.

849 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:22:30am

re: #829 Kenneth

Lets see, white painted face with blackened eyes. Rumours of him being a psych patient. Of course everything is unconfirmed at the moment. The good news is that the creep was caught.

850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:22:34am

re: #843 HoosierHoops

good Morning miss trixie..Keep warm!

It'd be funny if we found out Miss Trixie was a 6'9" lumberjack.

851 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:22:56am

re: #829 Kenneth

Five dead in knife attack at Belgian nursery school

Horrific news, no word on who the killer is or what his motivation was. Shocking beyond belief.

The article mentions other, similar attacks in Europe. Not good.

But there was a flying pig in there..."knifeman". While "gunman" is de rigeur in the US, you will never see "knifeman" IMO.

852 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:22:58am

re: #838 quickjustice

It's a good idea for the politicians advocating for removal of a governor from office to create at least the appearance of fairness during an impeachment proceeding. There are serious political consequences if you don't.

Agreed, but apparently they are not going to let him call witnesses in his own defence, or to question his accusers.

853 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:23:15am

re: #848 Kenneth

Lone attacker, male, his face was painted white with his eyes painted black. that's the only description of him so far.

A Paulian?

854 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:23:20am

re: #811 Dustyvet
Well give 'em hell my friend! Or treat them as sweet as you need to - depending on their attitude ya know?
Of course you do; you know the drill with Fed bureaucrats pretty well by now!
Worse comes to worse, get into a private office and announce that you feel another psychotic episode is coming on! LOL!
Seriously I'm glad it's a short trip for you and do wish you the Best of Luck pal - please let me know what happens today, ok?

855 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:23:21am

Oh, and a new avatar today. :D

856 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:23:24am

re: #842 Kenneth

U.S. Secures New Supply Routes to Afghanistan

Ok... and what does Russia get? Because Putin is not doing this out of the kindness of his heart.

Anyone remember when Putin was being shown somebody's Super bowl ring, he slipped into his pocket and walked away with it.

857 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:23:39am

re: #847 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Waiting for the opening bell.

I figure a 5% drop

858 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:23:52am

re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It'd be funny if we found out Miss Trixie was a 6'9" lumberjack.

That's a big gal...

859 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:24:02am

re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It'd be funny if we found out Miss Trixie was a 6'9" lumberjack.

NTTAWWT.

/

860 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:24:27am

re: #835 Miss Trixie

Good morning Miss Trixie. I hate lazy winds myself, versus strong winds.

/lazy winds go through instead of around.

861 unclassifiable  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:24:36am

re: #846 gregg

Policy based on Brownian Motion.

/no it's NOT Racists!

862 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:24:41am

re: #855 Miss Trixie

Oh, and a new avatar today. :D

Miss Trixie lives on the moon of Endor!

863 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:24:55am

re: #856 Dustyvet

Anyone remember when Putin was being shown somebody's Super bowl ring, he slipped into his pocket and walked away with it.

That belonged to Robert Kraft of the Patriots (a great guy from all accounts). IIRC he never got it back.

864 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:24:55am

re: #854 realwest

Well give 'em hell my friend! Or treat them as sweet as you need to - depending on their attitude ya know?
Of course you do; you know the drill with Fed bureaucrats pretty well by now!
Worse comes to worse, get into a private office and announce that you feel another psychotic episode is coming on! LOL!
Seriously I'm glad it's a short trip for you and do wish you the Best of Luck pal - please let me know what happens today, ok?

I will send an email soon as I get back late afternoon...

865 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:25:02am

Missiles kill 7 in NW Pakistan
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

sToP tHiS eNdLeSs WaR

Does this mean they're hiring?

866 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:25:21am

re: #861 unclassifiable

Policy based on Brownian Motion.

/no it's NOT Racists!

Brownian Motion brews my tea. It's a Good Thing.

867 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:25:22am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. A day after President Obama issued an executive order calling for the closure of Gitmo where terrorists are detained, we get a front page story from the NYT noting that a detainee formerly held in Gitmo has now become the head of al Qaeda in Yemen.

You don't say.

Terrorists rejoining the jihad? Really? Who could have seen this coming? I'm shocked. Shocked, by the fact that there were really terrorists held in Gitmo.

And the stupidity continues - when the Times claims that we don't have hard facts of how many other terrorists released have gone back into the jihad. Really? All it takes is one, but we've got dozens of examples of terrorists formerly detained now back engaging in jihad in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Relying on Yemen to protect the US from jihadis is downright laughable, their rehabilitation program is a revolving door. Saudi Arabia's program isn't much better and their claim that none who went through their program have gone back to jihad is now shot to hell. After all, their most famous graduate is now the head of al Qaeda in Yemen..

Feel safer now? Still want to close Gitmo? Human rights groups think that the terrorists rights are more important than protecting everyone else on the planet from these genocidal and homicidal terrorists.

868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:25:27am

re: #858 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It'd be funny if we found out Miss Trixie was a 6'9" male lumberjack.

Sheesh!

869 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:26:08am

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It'd be funny if we found out Miss Trixie was a 6'9" male lumberjack.

Sheesh!

sexist

870 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:27:17am

re: #824 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Uh, your son's baseball practices start in January?!?
Well, in any event that is good news about your back; is this a chronic thing or a one off (your back, I mean)?

871 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:27:31am

re: #859 OldLineTexan

NTTAWWT.

/

"Oh I'm a Lumberjack and I'm ok, I sleep all night and work all day...and go to the lavatory...I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars"...:)

872 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:27:31am

re: #813 Wyatt Earp

3pm - 11pm. Daywork is 7am - 3pm. It stinks.

/ooh, try theatre management, 10am Friday through 6pm Sunday, shifts end after 1am because you can't shoot the lingering (or passed out) women in the bathrooms

873 3 wood  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:27:57am

The market futures are down about 3% right now

874 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:28:18am

Do as adversaries do in law, —
Strive mightily, but eat and drink as friends.

— William Shakespeare, The Taming of the Shrew

Obama, Clinton, McCain.
Elections: all strove mightily for their separate enlightened identities, carrying mighty swords and lashing tongues toward each other.
Today, all unified, smiling and handshakes, sharing meals and raising the glass to the toasting of hopey change.

The Taming of the Shrews

875 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:28:29am

re: #828 3 wood

They are going to throw him out of office next week cause they don't want him getting his hands on the billions of dollars they are pretty sure will be coming their way soon from Obama's Stimulus Pork Plan.

If Blago doesn't get the whole thing stopped.

876 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:28:36am

re: #822 OldLineTexan

And if your cholesterol is too high, just wear panties on your head.

Don't forget, you can eat & breathe Doritos™ on those things too...they've got trace amounts of alcohol!

877 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:28:38am

re: #871 Dustyvet

"Oh I'm a Lumberjack and I'm ok, I sleep all night and work all day...and go to the lavatory...I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars"...:)

That's the FIRST thing I think when I see the word. I have to steer clear of lumberjacks. And shepherds masquerading as cowboys...

878 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:29:15am

So, I need to run off to earn my filthy lucre to pay my taxes fair share to support all those richly-deserving Obamatons. BBIAW.

879 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:29:18am

re: #877 OldLineTexan

That's the FIRST thing I think when I see the word. I have to steer clear of lumberjacks. And shepherds masquerading as cowboys...

ROFLMAO...:)

880 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:29:20am

re: #747 Rustler

State doesn't bode well for turning the position into an election win. Her time in state havingto be diplomatic is likely what made Condi a non contender or nonthought this last election.


It is what will round out her RESUME. Condi was an Academic who became National Security Advisor and Sec State... those two were closely tied to the GWOT. With the MSM killing anyone associated with those two Condi never had a chance.
Hillary on the other hand, will have:
1. had time running an organization (all be it a small one as ex partner at the Rose Law Firm)
2. been a part of law enforcement (as a young woman she was part of th team that prepared the case for impeachment of President Nixon)
3. served as a Leglislator, was a part of three national campaigns (two for her husband, one for herself)
4. served as Cabinet member and nation's top diplomat.
5. have a national organization in place to support her candidacy, along with support from people and organizations with deep pockets (Soros, NOW, ACLU and a variety of other liberal personalities and organizations).
She will be formidable. Make no mistake about it, and she wont have the Bimbo eruptions and White Water to explain away.

881 RondinellaMamma  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:29:39am

Dear Lizards,
Today is a bit of a rough morning because my brain can't get itself around this: dearleaderO says our country doesn't torture...terrorists, but he 'll send our taxpayers' money abroad to kill babies still within their mothers' wombs. Of course, the former gets a huge msm photo-op and the latter gets slipped in late afternoon before the weekend begins.

Did I wake up in a different universe? Have we already arrived at hell via the hand basket?

I feel nauseous.

882 quickjustice  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:30:45am

re: #846 gregg

The Chinese financed the War in Iraq. We're in deep hock to them, to the tune of a trillion or more. One reason for the credit crunch is that they tightened their lending to us. It doesn't make sense for Obama to heat things up too much with them unless it's really, really important.

Paulson, Bush's Treasury Secretary, also is implicated in this. As a member of Goldman, he opened Goldman's office in China. He personally peddled a lot of toxic paper to the Chinese. That's why he was so frantic about getting the bailout money together. A lot of it went to the Chinese who had trusted him.

BY saving Goldman, he also saved his personal retirement package, rumored to be worth many millions of dollars.

883 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:30:54am

re: #870 realwest

Uh, your son's baseball practices start in January?!?
Well, in any event that is good news about your back; is this a chronic thing or a one off (your back, I mean)?

Back is chronic and ever worsening. Something that will eventually need surgery but hasn't yet reached the threshold of impeachment. A good friend of mine in Raleigh has had something similar, but much worse, and explains that the surgery route is merely a kick the can down the rode to ever greater issues... so I'm holding off as long as I can take it.

The son in college didn't start any formal practices yet, but did get to pitch outside yesterday which was a thrill for him after being cooped up all winter.

The HS one had a throwing and batting practice inside.

884 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:31:00am

The revolving door

Michael Scheuer described how the rules under the Clinton administration were crafted to ensure the US would never hold prisoners. This meant, as a practical matter, that terror suspects were always shipped offshore to a foreign government where they were either tortured, killed or both. Michael Scheuer described how bad that was, not only only from the moral point of view, but from the persective of US intelligence intelligence. If US intel wanted to know something they had to submit any questions to their foreign counterparts in writing, with the near certain knowledge it would be asked under torture, and ineffectively at that. Guantanamo was established to create an environment where terrorists might be aggressively interrogated in a manner falling short of the tortures applied by foreign governments. In the aftermath of 9/11 it was deemed important to fix what was broke. It’s easy to forget that Guantanamo was conceived as the solution to a Clinton era problem.

The Democrats have conveniently forgotten, that the problem of what to do with terrorists existed before 9-11 and before Bush became president. The existing solution, developed by the Clinton administration, wasn't working.

Die Zeit: Who invented the “extraordinary renditions” system?

Michael Scheuer: President Clinton, his security counsellor Sandy Berger and his terrorism counsellor Richard Clarke instructed the CIA in autumn 1995 to destroy Al-Qaida. We asked the president what we should do with the arrested persons? Clinton replied that this was our problem. The CIA indicated that they are not jailors. It was then suggested we find any solution whatsoever to this problem. And this is what we did, we established a procedure and I myself was part of this working group. We concentrated on those members of Al-Qaida who were wanted by the police in their respective countries of origin or those who had already been convicted during their absence.

It was Clinton who started the practice of extraordinary renditions and outsourcing torture. Bush created Gitmo to stop, or at least reduce the practice. Now Obama has decided to get rid of Gitmo. Fine, but all the same problems exist and he has offered no solution to those.

885 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:31:04am

re: #880 shanec99

It is what will round out her RESUME. Condi was an Academic who became National Security Advisor and Sec State... those two were closely tied to the GWOT. With the MSM killing anyone associated with those two Condi never had a chance.
Hillary on the other hand, will have:
1. had time running an organization (all be it a small one as ex partner at the Rose Law Firm)
2. been a part of law enforcement (as a young woman she was part of th team that prepared the case for impeachment of President Nixon)
3. served as a Leglislator, was a part of three national campaigns (two for her husband, one for herself)
4. served as Cabinet member and nation's top diplomat.
5. have a national organization in place to support her candidacy, along with support from people and organizations with deep pockets (Soros, NOW, ACLU and a variety of other liberal personalities and organizations).
She will be formidable. Make no mistake about it, and she wont have the Bimbo eruptions and White Water to explain away.

Don't forget Arkansas' most famous and (based on profit rate) SUCCESSFUL cattle trader EVER!

886 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:31:51am

re: #865 jcbunga

Missiles kill 7 in NW Pakistan
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

sToP tHiS eNdLeSs WaR

Does this mean they're hiring?

Obama's war.

887 unclassifiable  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:31:58am

re: #873 3 wood

So when does the President have the "Ahmadinejad talk" with Wall Street?

I believe he threatened to hang them if they did not stop bringing the stock prices down.

/drive by -- off to work

888 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:32:51am

re: #880 shanec99

After Zero, she doesn't look so scary any more.

/Lower standards.

889 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:32:54am

Morning, Hoosier! Glad to see you today. :)

You look hongry - help yourself and have a nice latte on me.

There's enough for the rest of you on the buffet with a nice fruit salad for those watching their figures.

On second thought, there's a lot more peeps here that I thought, so I guess I'd better include some of these on the buffet. Hep yeselves.

FBV

It'd be funny if we found out Miss Trixie was a 6'9" lumberjack.

Wouldn't it though?

*giggle*

890 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:33:10am

re: #888 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

After Zero, she doesn't look so scary any more.

/Lower standards.

Huzzah for lower standards!

891 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:33:33am

re: #823 3 wood

Can you imagine the damage Hillary and Bill will be able to cause Obama behind the scenes? Especially someone as naive as Obama.

They are going to truss him up like a Christmas turkey.

It is gonna be an interesting four years.

892 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:33:41am
893 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:34:13am

re: #886 Kenneth

Obama's war.

Waiting on word from the White House they they did not authorize that particular missile strike. The Missile Strike Committee hasn't even met.

894 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:34:14am

re: #872 Killian Bundy

/ooh, try theatre management, 10am Friday through 6pm Sunday, shifts end after 1am because you can't shoot the lingering (or passed out) women in the bathrooms


Passed out women. Got me through high school. :)

895 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:34:18am

I have never been able to understand why, after totally destroying Arkansas's premiere law firm, none of the partners ever turned on the Clintons?

/somebody must have some pretty dirty pictures.

896 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:34:42am

re: #829 Kenneth
Whoa, the caption says"Three children and two adults are reported to have been killed in a knife attack at a creche in Belgium and that as many as 20 others were wounded.
Is a creche just another word for nursery or day care center in Beligum do you know?

897 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:34:48am

re: #862 OldLineTexan

Miss Trixie lives on the moon of Endor!

Or better yet, Kashyyyk!

898 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:35:29am

re: #809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Giants receiver shot in hand and leg in Alabama

Plaxico is loose!

899 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:35:33am

re: #884 Kenneth

The revolving door


It was Clinton who started the practice of extraordinary renditions and outsourcing torture. Bush created Gitmo to stop, or at least reduce the practice. Now Obama has decided to get rid of Gitmo. Fine, but all the same problems exist and he has offered no solution to those.

Deep thinker Al Sharpton was on FNC this morning.
According to him, Obama has no obligation to have an alternative before putting out the executive order to close Gitmo!

900 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:36:01am

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It'd be funny if we found out Miss Trixie was a 6'9" male lumberjack.

Sheesh!

While I have never met Miss Trixie, a mutual acquaintance has, & I can assure you she is indeed a woman. And she probably knows how to deal with a 6'9" lumberjack. ;)

901 quickjustice  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:36:35am

re: #852 3 wood

He will be permitted to defend himself if he's criminally prosecuted in the courts. I suspect that Blago knows where a lot of bodies are buried, including the President's. If he's permitted to mount a defense, he could expose a lot of that stuff. The Democrats can't let him do that, so they'll shut him up.

I repeat, impeachment is a political process. The rules of the courts don't strictly apply. Both sides are playing politics. The court of public opinion is the court that ultimately counts here. Blago can call a press conference at the end of each day, and release a list of the questions he would have asked the witnesses. If they're good questions, the press will report them and destroy the legislature. It's chaotic, but permissible.

My advice: break out the popcorn!

902 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:36:47am

re: #897 Macker

Or better yet, Kashyyyk!

Miss Trixie would need to be 6'9" if those pups were Wookiee-sized. And lumberjacking skills would be common on a forest moon OR Kashyyk...

Hmmm...it all starts to fall together...

903 bellamags  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:36:47am

re: #892 Iron Fist

They've convinced me. I want them to close Gitmo. If we aren't going to be allowed to effectively question them, then we don't need to put Jihadi in a cage. Close Gitmo.

And quit taking prisoners. We were only taking them so that we could ferret out information from them. If we can't even put them in the uncomfy chair, or ask them anything more than "Name, rank, and serial number", there's not much point in keeping them alive.

One of my customers has been given orders to go to Gitmo in a few months. He echos your sentiments. I gave him my email so he could communicate with me while he is there.

904 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:36:48am

re: #892 Iron Fist

PVT: I don't know what happened, Sarge, Hadji here looked like he was going to escape and my finger slipped.

SGT: Yeah, that seems to happen a lot these days.

905 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:36:50am

re: #833 aussiemagpie
Hey there {aussie}! Nope, drops of sweat never fall on MY keyboard cause I'm always so cool, ya know?!?
:)
Thanks for the smootch and I'm returning it to you with interest, but how come only one cheek?

906 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:36:50am

re: #896 realwest

yes, creche is a common European term for nursery or daycare.

907 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:38:01am

re: #899 opnion

Deep thinker Al Sharpton was on FNC this morning.
According to him, Obama has no obligation to have an alternative before putting out the executive order to close Gitmo!

No! It's amazing how the Democrats think and sound just like George Bush now.

908 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:38:05am

re: #904 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

PVT: I don't know what happened, Sarge, Hadji here looked like he was going to escape and my finger slipped.

SGT: Yeah, that seems to happen a lot these days.

"Everyone's slipping on soap around here!"
/The Dirty Dozen

909 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:38:46am

re: #881 RondinellaMamma

Dear Lizards,
Today is a bit of a rough morning because my brain can't get itself around this: dearleaderO says our country doesn't torture...terrorists, but he 'll send our taxpayers' money abroad to kill babies still within their mothers' wombs. Of course, the former gets a huge msm photo-op and the latter gets slipped in late afternoon before the weekend begins.

Did I wake up in a different universe? Have we already arrived at hell via the hand basket?

I feel nauseous.

Kinda obvious where his priorities lie regarding the value of babies. This his second etch against saving lives of babies. Not to mention what does he really feel about women? He says he believes they should have the freedom to make the decisions for themselves. But, then he punishes the healthcare of babies born, who need intensive care? Hmmm Who is he punishing? and for what?

910 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:39:01am

re: #884 Kenneth

The revolving door

It was Clinton who started the practice of extraordinary renditions and outsourcing torture. Bush created Gitmo to stop, or at least reduce the practice. Now Obama has decided to get rid of Gitmo. Fine, but all the same problems exist and he has offered no solution to those.

Now they will just have to interrogate them before they officially take them prisoner - and then execute them on or near the battlefield. So much for intelligence gathering.

Obama is soft on corruption,
Obama is soft on terror suspects,
Our beta-male, metrosexual, p=whipped, president is soft.

Tragic.

911 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:39:22am

re: #835 {Miss Trixie} Hey there gorgeous, *smooches* back to you to keep you warm! And I have too shaved today - gotta go out and do some chores soon, damn it!
Anway, if its that kind of cold, damp windy day, y'all ought to wear leg warmers as well as putting bricks in your coat and leave Lil Miss inside today!

912 Crux Australis  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:39:35am

re: #784 aussiemagpie

Aussiemagpie,

Do you agree that Sydney is a story of two cities - You have the North shore, northern suburbs and northwestern suburbs, some eastern suburbs and the "shire" to the south who vote conservative and the inner west, west and southwest that vote Labor. My former boss was the opposition immigration spokesman during the Hawke Governments early years and he was telling me that one reason for Muslim immigration in the 80's was to shore up Labor votes in Labor electorates.

I live in a part of Sydney with very few Muslims and the Christmas decorations were very obvious this past Christmas.

913 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:39:40am

re: #860 BlueCanuck

Good morning Miss Trixie. I hate lazy winds myself, versus strong winds.

/lazy winds go through instead of around.

Hey Blue! Day 46 of the transit strike - can you believe it? =O

914 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:39:56am

re: #890 OldLineTexan

Huzzah for lower standards!

Lowered Expectations?

915 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:40:24am

re: #862 OldLineTexan

Miss Trixie lives on the moon of Endor!

HA! :D

916 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:40:32am

re: #904 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

PVT: I don't know what happened, Sarge, Hadji here looked like he was going to escape and my finger slipped.

SGT: Yeah, that seems to happen a lot these days.

Remember the ARVIN'S taking VC on Helicopter rides...?

917 vapig  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:40:42am

re: #846 gregg

Yesterday, Geithner/Obama pissed off the Chinese by accusing them of manipulating the Yuan. While this may be true, it seems stupid to do that when you will need them to purchase all those treasuries needed for a trillion dollar stimulus package. I'm not a smart man, so maybe I'm missing the strategy of the new administration. Can anyone explain it to me?

I think he wants to be the next FDR, therefore he needs a real depression to implement all his sociatal saving social programs.

918 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:40:48am

re: #909 notutopia

Kinda obvious where his priorities lie regarding the value of babies. This his second etch against saving lives of babies. Not to mention what does he really feel about women? He says he believes they should have the freedom to make the decisions for themselves. But, then he punishes the healthcare of babies born, who need intensive care? Hmmm Who is he punishing? and for what?

Babies are a punishment to liberals - except illegal anchor babies.

919 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:41:22am
920 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:41:38am

re: #888 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
We can only hope that her Presidential ambitions are behind her now, because I don't see anyone on our side who can match her resume, fund raising capability, name recognition or political organization.
She will be close to unstoppable unless the Obama Presidency stinks up everyone associated with it.

921 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:41:56am

re: #910 DistantThunder

Now they will just have to interrogate them before they officially take them prisoner...

Wait... do you have to read them their Miranda Rights and give 'em a phone call to their lawyer before we can talk to them?

/I get so confused. I seem to recall PW handing procedures being: separate them into groups by enlisted vs officer, tie them up and gag them, send 'em to the rear.

922 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:42:33am

re: #918 DistantThunder

Babies are a punishment to liberals - except illegal anchor babies.

But, These are the future unborn taxpayers and voters.

923 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:42:44am
924 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:42:55am

re: #916 Dustyvet

Remember the ARVIN'S taking VC on Helicopter rides...?

Remember I'm a kid?

No, but I can imagine... that's the "catch and release" policy.

925 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:43:12am

re: #914 BlueCanuck

Lowered Expectations?

One of the best spoof commercials ever.

926 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:43:22am

re: #922 notutopia

But, These are the future unborn NON taxpayers and voters.

Fixed it for you.

927 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:43:46am

re: #922 notutopia

But, These are the future unborn taxpayers and voters.

The greatest supporters of abortion on men between the ages of 18-34. Guess why.

928 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:43:46am

Good Friday morning all. What will The One screw up today?

929 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:43:59am

re: #900 Kenneth

While I have never met Miss Trixie, a mutual acquaintance has, & I can assure you she is indeed a woman. And she probably knows how to deal with a 6'9" lumberjack. ;)

Some people are sooo lucky! ;-)

930 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:44:13am

re: #905 realwest

Hey there {aussie}! Nope, drops of sweat never fall on MY keyboard cause I'm always so cool, ya know?!?
:)
Thanks for the smootch and I'm returning it to you with interest, but how come only one cheek?

Hello, isn't the right cheek Miss Trixie's? :-)

And I'm getting used to the bristly cheek too, the girls at work think the MOTH has grown a beard (little do they know about our secret smooching) :-)

931 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:44:37am

re: #924 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Remember I'm a kid?

No, but I can imagine... that's the "catch and release" policy.

I swear as God is my witness that VC could fly...

Less Nessman...

WKRP

932 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:44:38am

Exactly what's wrong with Obama's worldview:

Closing Guantanamo and the court decisions granting enemy combatants access to the US legal system will jointly make it impossible for the US to detain prisoners again. Capturing a live prisoner is one of the most hazardous operations of war. It is far easier to drop a JDAM on him. But why would anyone take the trouble if prisoners cannot be interrogated, harshly to be sure, in an American jail, but in a manner far short of the Clinton era alternative. Instead they must be turned over to some brutal foreign official who will torment the prisoner and pointlessly anyway. Better to drop the JDAM. The result is that either no prisoners will be taken or those taken will wind up, as they did in the past, in the dungeons of the Mukhabarat.

The irony is that closing Guantanamo Bay may result in the revival of the old Clinton-era practices, which were not only more brutal to the detainees, but brought us 9/11 to boot.
One of the reasons the US has managed to prevent a second terror attack is intelligence gathered from the battlefield. That was then, this is now.

Henceforth such intelligence must be gathered by foreigners so that the politicians can proclaim their hands clean. Theirs is the cleanliness of hypocrisy; of secret brutality in which everything is licit so long as it is one degree of liability removed. This is the new morality which serves not man, but the press release. The new kindness, behind which lurks the secret smile.

933 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:44:41am

re: #927 DistantThunder

The greatest supporters of abortion on men between the ages of 18-34. Guess why.

That has to be painful.

934 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:44:41am

re: #924 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Remember I'm a kid?

No, but I can imagine... that's the "catch and release" policy.


It had something to do with unassisted sky diving.

935 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:44:59am

re: #928 Ward Cleaver

Good Friday morning all. What will The One screw up today?

How soon until Biden is let loose to distract the public with his gaffes?

936 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:45:01am

re: #928 Ward Cleaver

Good Friday morning all. What will The One screw up today?

I don't know but on the third day, my Messiah rose from the dead. I'm thinking Mr. President will most likely raise someone from the dead.

937 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:45:05am

re: #922 notutopia

But, These are the future unborn taxpayers and voters.

And most would probably be future Democrats.

938 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:45:21am

re: #928 Ward Cleaver

Good Friday morning all. What will The One screw up today?

OK, that's it. The ODS is odious.

/Turn in your unicorn.

939 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:45:40am

re: #841 3 wood
Oh yeah - we kept our power thus our heat on throughout our "blizzard" (5" or so) so we did just fine.
Did you hear Dick Morris this morning on Fox? He said that the Dem's PLAN was to take over preferred stock in the banks, banks could only therefore make dividends (assuming they turn a profit) to the Government, so no one would buy shares of stock in Banks anymore and - voila! - we've socialized the Banking system. He said healthcare would be next.
Who knew Morris was a capitalist? And when asked directly whether or not Reid and Pelosi knew that this would happen with the banks, he said that they'd planned it that way!

940 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:45:46am

re: #900 Kenneth

While I have never met Miss Trixie, a mutual acquaintance has, & I can assure you she is indeed a woman. And she probably knows how to deal with a 6'9" lumberjack. ;)


Did Miss Trixie ever decide to do the Playboy Gig or did she turn it down?
/ Waves! LOL

941 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:45:51am

re: #926 Jetpilot1101

Fixed it for you.

It's not going to help their future voting base to support abortion.

942 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:46:17am

re: #935 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How soon until Biden is let loose to distract the public with his gaffes?

I'm not sure. How many of the seven seals have been opened?

943 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:46:23am

re: #936 Jetpilot1101

I don't know but on the third day, my Messiah rose from the dead. I'm thinking Mr. President will most likely raise someone from the dead.

That's common in Chicago around Election Day.

944 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:46:55am

re: #933 OldLineTexan

That has to be painful.

re: #935 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How soon until Biden is let loose to distract the public with his gaffes?

Biden is so low class, so arrogant. Hannity put up his charitable giving for the last 10 years and every number began with 0. Yes, that's less than 1 percent every single year. What an @ss.

945 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:47:04am

re: #927 DistantThunder

The greatest supporters of abortion on men between the ages of 18-34. Guess why.

why? why do you think this?

946 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:47:08am

re: #941 notutopia

It's not going to help their future voting base to support abortion.

No it won't but that has never stopped them in the past.

947 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:47:20am

re: #941 notutopia

It's not going to help their future voting base to support abortion.

Check you ACORN. You don't need people to get votes, silly.

948 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:48:07am

re: #931 Dustyvet

I swear as God is my witness that VC could fly...

Less Nessman...

WKRP

They just suck at landing... gotta work on that.

949 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:48:26am

re: #945 notutopia

why? why do you think this?

When society "liberated" women - they "liberated" men from their responsibilities. Women now have to go to court to get child support.

950 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:48:46am

re: #947 OldLineTexan

Check you ACORN. You don't need people to get votes, silly.

And you don't need people to get taxes...

951 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:48:57am

re: #948 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

They just suck at landing... gotta work on that.

Order me another keyboard please...:)

952 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:48:59am

Good morning, all.
Anyone comment about this yet? (via HotAir)
It would suck to wake up like that and realize you're not dreaming.

953 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:49:27am

re: #844 vapig
Oh, I don't know, Gillibrand may be a (D) but "Liberal Democrats have been wary of her because she ran for re-election with the backing of the National Rifle Association, opposed the federal TARP program to rescue banks, and has been less than enthusiastic about gay marriage." (from the link) and this time maybe the Leftists have some reason to howl!

954 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:50:29am

re: #950 notutopia

And you don't need people to get taxes...

Of course not. Everybody get BIG tax break, except RICH people and EVIL corporation. Plenty money for all. Spread wealth but good. Everybody HAPPY.

955 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:50:44am

re: #953 realwest

Oh, I don't know, Gillibrand may be a (D) but "Liberal Democrats have been wary of her because she ran for re-election with the backing of the National Rifle Association, opposed the federal TARP program to rescue banks, and has been less than enthusiastic about gay marriage." (from the link) and this time maybe the Leftists have some reason to howl!

She sounds like the only sane voice in DC right now.

956 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:05am

re: #850 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Uh, NO - I've seen photos of Miss Trixie at an LGF meetup and when I call her gorgeous, it's for a very good reason: she is gorgeous!

957 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:07am

re: #949 DistantThunder

When society "liberated" women - they "liberated" men from their responsibilities. Women now have to go to court to get child support.

So it's cheaper to have an abortion than to pay court expenses for your born responsibilities?

958 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:14am

re: #952 jwb7605

Good morning, all.
Anyone comment about this yet? (via HotAir)
It would suck to wake up like that and realize you're not dreaming.

I wonder if the Brits have a Doctor named Pierce...

959 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:22am

re: #955 Jetpilot1101

She sounds like the only sane voice in DC right now.

A pod was deposited next to her bed last night.

960 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:00am

re: #949 DistantThunder

So, so true. I think you will appreciate this classic essay by Theodore Dalrymple

The Frivolity of Evil

I have had hundreds of conversations with men who have abandoned their children in this fashion, and they all know perfectly well what the consequences are for the mother and, more important, for the children. They all know that they are condemning their children to lives of brutality, poverty, abuse, and hopelessness. They tell me so themselves. And yet they do it over and over again, to such an extent that I should guess that nearly a quarter of British children are now brought up this way.

961 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:13am

re: #948 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

They just suck at landing... gotta work on that.


The fall won't kill ya, it's the sudden stop.

962 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:18am

Kenneth

While I have never met Miss Trixie, a mutual acquaintance has, & I can assure you she is indeed a woman. And she probably knows how to deal with a 6'9" lumberjack. ;)

Yes, and he axed me out for a loverly date so I wore my brand new fir coat. In the restaurant, he pined for a perfectly cooked MR stake and sadly, the dessert menu stumped him so he passed. At the end of the evening, he asked me out again and I said "Wood eye!"

963 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:25am

re: #952 jwb7605

Good morning, all.
Anyone comment about this yet? (via HotAir)
It would suck to wake up like that and realize you're not dreaming.

I'm no Med guy, but haven't enemy captures always been treated with the same docs/facilities as the troops until stable enough to go into the PW system?

964 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:32am

re: #912 Crux Australis

Aussiemagpie,

Do you agree that Sydney is a story of two cities - You have the North shore, northern suburbs and northwestern suburbs, some eastern suburbs and the "shire" to the south who vote conservative and the inner west, west and southwest that vote Labor. My former boss was the opposition immigration spokesman during the Hawke Governments early years and he was telling me that one reason for Muslim immigration in the 80's was to shore up Labor votes in Labor electorates.

I live in a part of Sydney with very few Muslims and the Christmas decorations were very obvious this past Christmas.

Yes I agree! My daughter lives in Mosman, which seems light years away from my area - of course, plenty of human rights advocates/bleeding hearts live there - who have probably never set foot in the SW of Sydney and have only driven through on the M5 on their way to the snowfields

However we do live in Hughes, so we have Danna Vale as our Federal MP - which is only because Hughes has part of the Shire in it

Where I live is Labor dominated unfortunately - however a great friend was voted onto the council last election as a Liberal! Miracles do happen!

965 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:37am

re: #954 OldLineTexan

Of course not. Everybody get BIG tax break, except RICH people and EVIL corporation. Plenty money for all. Spread wealth but good. Everybody HAPPY.

How come there is not many of us smiling...

966 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:47am

Almost time to go see the lovely and brilliant Ms. Ayan Hirsi Ali speak! I'll report back this afternoon if any lizards are curious.

967 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:53:17am

re: #913 Miss Trixie

What? How come they haven't been legislated back to work yet?

968 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:53:23am

Worlds first embryonic stem cell therapy in humans approved

Create new nerve cells for spinal cord patients. No Fed funding.

969 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:53:35am

re: #964 aussiemagpie

Yes I agree! My daughter lives in Mosman, which seems light years away from my area - of course, plenty of human rights advocates/bleeding hearts live there - who have probably never set foot in the SW of Sydney and have only driven through on the M5 on their way to the snowfields

However we do live in Hughes, so we have Danna Vale as our Federal MP - which is only because Hughes has part of the Shire in it

Where I live is Labor dominated unfortunately - however a great friend was voted onto the council last election as a Liberal! Miracles do happen!

Hobbits tend to vote Conservative, yes?

970 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:53:39am

re: #966 Spenser (with an S)

Almost time to go see the lovely and brilliant Ms. Ayan Hirsi Ali speak! I'll report back this afternoon if any lizards are curious.

Please do!

971 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:53:49am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Here's a cartoon I came across today which seemed rather suitable ... (especially for {Mandy}!)

972 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:16am

re: #962 Miss Trixie

LOL! I'll resist asking if you checked his lumber.

973 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:18am

re: #892 Iron Fist

They've convinced me. I want them to close Gitmo. If we aren't going to be allowed to effectively question them, then we don't need to put Jihadi in a cage. Close Gitmo.

And quit taking prisoners. We were only taking them so that we could ferret out information from them. If we can't even put them in the uncomfy chair, or ask them anything more than "Name, rank, and serial number", there's not much point in keeping them alive.

Oh, then perhaps this will change your mind about the hopes of the L3. As I had noted, the Obama executive orders don't actually close anything or change any existing policies in a substantive manner. They're for show. Gitmo already operates pursuant to the Army Field Manual, as does the CIA as per a Bush executive order. Obama wants a review of things. That's his perogative, but they'll end up with the same conclusions... Gitmo stays open.

They don't have any alternatives, and Gitmo prisoners already receive more protections than required under the Geneva Conventions or the US Constitution.

Claims that forced feedings and solitary are akin to torture are similarly tortured logic. That's human rights group logic, which ignores terrorists and their constant violation of human rights, and which instead focuses on crippling the ability of states to protect themselves from jihadis.

974 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:19am

re: #965 notutopia

How come there is not many of us smiling...

First we make with HAPPY, then we MAKE you HAPPY. Or else.

975 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:55:02am
976 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:55:07am

re: #969 OldLineTexan

Hobbits tend to vote Conservative, yes?

Except for those lay-about Sackville-Bagginses.

977 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:55:16am

re: #966 Spenser (with an S)

Almost time to go see the lovely and brilliant Ms. Ayan Hirsi Ali speak! I'll report back this afternoon if any lizards are curious.

Please do. Enjoy!

978 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:55:55am

re: #976 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Except for those lay-about Sackville-Bagginses.

Yes, Lotho worked for Soros-man, IIRC.

979 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:56:18am

re: #974 OldLineTexan

First we make with HAPPY, then we MAKE you HAPPY. Or else.

ahuh. NOT.

980 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:56:49am
981 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:57:46am

re: #971 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Here's a cartoon I came across today which seemed rather suitable ... (especially for {Mandy}!)

I have a question for you regarding Wales history, in the early 1950's was there any move by Wales to brake away from England?

982 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:57:53am

re: #979 notutopia

ahuh. NOT.

Ah, patriotic dissenter! Please to get un...errr, on bus.

983 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:14am

re: #880 shanec99
Hi shanec99! Uh, there is ONE very important negative Hillary has to get around: the Dems will NEVER appoint or allow a woman to head the ticket for POTUS - just won't do it.
(and minor quibble, if she was a partner at the Rose law firm, she was a very junior partner and didn't manage that firm at all).

984 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:16am

re: #962 Miss Trixie
So there are actually LGF meetups?
you are kidding right?

985 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:25am

re: #972 Kenneth

LOL! I'll resist asking if you checked his lumber.

Must . . . restrain. . . brain. . . .

/GAH, I think something just popped. *thud*

986 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:35am

re: #981 Dustyvet

I have a question for you regarding Wales history, in the early 1950's was there any move by Wales to brake away from England?

It was in the 1990's. The "Free Willy" movement ended in disarray as their message became, well, confused.

987 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:52am

realwest

*blush*

988 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:59:15am

re: #986 OldLineTexan

It was in the 1990's. The "Free Willy" movement ended in disarray as their message became, well, confused.

Wales not Whales...sheech!

989 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:59:35am

re: #988 Dustyvet

Wales not Whales...sheech!

Spellist.

/

990 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:19am

who will get message #1000?

991 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:25am

Yo-Yo Milli Vanilli?: "Wicked Cold" Leads Cellist to Fake the Funk

Massachusetts cellist Yo-Yo Ma was not playing his cello during Barack Obama's televised inauguration. Complaining that it was "wicked cold," the musician and sex symbol opted instead to pretend to perform while piping in a prerecorded track.

Good morning. Hope! Change! Bow-synching!

992 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:44am

re: #883 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Shit, LT, I'm really sorry to hear about the chornic back problems - how did you get them (the back problems, I mean)? In the Service or after the Service?

993 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:49am
994 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:52am

Gotta run. There's a Workers of Iniquity conference at 9:30, and I need to iron my cape.

995 aussiemagpie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:01:14am

re: #969 OldLineTexan

Hobbits tend to vote Conservative, yes?

LOL! Yes...

996 bellamags  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:01:20am

re: #989 OldLineTexan

Spellist.

/

LOL

997 notutopia  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:01:40am

re: #975 buzzsawmonkey

The sad thing is that the Democrats are committed to breaking with, or to be seen, at least, to be breaking with, the policies and practices of the previous Republican administration merely on the grounds that those policies and practices were Republican, and not on the grounds of whether they were wise or practical.

The news media, who are ideologically committed to the evil of Republicans even more than the Democrats, are dogging the Democrats' heels to make sure they do this.

The result is that--mindful of what happened to Joe Lieberman--no Democrat, unless s/he is possessed of extraordinary courage and an unshakeable power base, will stand up against the dizzying spiral towards a new direction--any new direction--that turns its back on the last eight years.

The Republicans are too few, too fragmented, and too marginalized by the media and popular sentiment to be able to combat this at present. It is possible that they may be able to begin to voice objections effectively once the current national euphoria dies down, but insofar as their ability to voice anything depends on the gatekeepers to the media, who will ignore sane and effective voices in favor of cartoon cutouts of "conservatives" such as Pat Buchanan, it is likely that even should the Republicans find their voice that voice will have great difficulty avoiding being stifled.

Okay, Buzzsawmonkey, that was quite enough reality for me this morning. I don't need that second cup of java now. Thank you, the caffeine and adrenaline flow is quite over the top and it's only 10am EST. I'm going for a jog. BBL.

998 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:02:12am

re: #967 BlueCanuck

What? How come they haven't been legislated back to work yet?

Parliament's not back until next week and even then, I'm not so sure this can legislated. Bloody frustrating to say the least as the city and the boobs in the union are at a standoff.

999 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:02:24am
1000 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:02:35am

re: #991 Occasional Reader

Yo-Yo Milli Vanilli?: "Wicked Cold" Leads Cellist to Fake the Funk

Good morning. Hope! Change! Bow-synching!

Sounds like this will be par for the course for the administration. A lot of smoke, mirrors, and a complete divorcing from reality.

1001 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:02:41am

One short... dang

1002 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:00am

re: #1000 Jetpilot1101

Ding

1003 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:10am

re: #983 realwest

Hi shanec99! Uh, there is ONE very important negative Hillary has to get around: the Dems will NEVER appoint or allow a woman to head the ticket for POTUS - just won't do it.
(and minor quibble, if she was a partner at the Rose law firm, she was a very junior partner and didn't manage that firm at all).


Will never... please tell me about the basis of your opinion.

1004 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:10am

re: #975 buzzsawmonkey

Well said.

1005 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:15am

re: #992 realwest

Shit, LT, I'm really sorry to hear about the chornic back problems - how did you get them (the back problems, I mean)? In the Service or after the Service?

You must have missed my post yesterday... quick recap: After service. I was in a plane wreck in Chapel Hill down the road from you in early 1998 (you might have seen it in the papers). Landed a 1949 Cessna 195 upsidedown. No fun. Impact smashed the disk between T1 and S1 (or is it T5, I forget the order... down low).

1006 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:34am

re: #1001 Occasional Reader

One short... dang

Short changed in the Hope and Change department eh?

1007 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:48am

re: #972 Kenneth

LOL! I'll resist asking if you checked his lumber.

There's a very good reason his buddies called him "Woody" ...

1008 bellamags  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:03am

re: #1005 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You must have missed my post yesterday... quick recap: After service. I was in a plane wreck in Chapel Hill down the road from you in early 1998 (you might have seen it in the papers). Landed a 1949 Cessna 195 upsidedown. No fun. Impact smashed the disk between T1 and S1 (or is it T5, I forget the order... down low).

L5 and S1

1009 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:13am

re: #935 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How soon until Biden is let loose to distract the public with his gaffes?

He's gonna be on a short leash.

In Genesis' video "Land Of Confusion" (which is not kind to Reagan, I know) there is a short bit of Bob Hope in front of the cameras. Action is this

Cue card (held up for Bob Hope: I
Bob Hope: I
Cue card: Gotta
Bob Hope: Gotta
Cue card: Tellya
Bob Hope: Tellya.

Happens at 2:53.

That is what I think Biden is looking forward to four years of.

1010 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:21am

re: #984 shanec99

So there are actually LGF meetups?
you are kidding right?

Yes indeedy. I have enjoyed two great trips to Texas and they shore do grow them lizards awful big and strong down there.

1011 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:31am

re: #980 ploome hineni

Defense officials said that there were concerns that some of the Palestinians' requests for cement and metal pipes would be used by Hamas to rebuild its Kassam manufacturing line. One possibility under consideration is to permit the transfer of the cement and pipes to Gaza although via the international organizations - such as UNRWA and the World Bank - which would be responsible for overseeing how it was used.

Oh yes, that'll work. (bashes head with a brick)

1012 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:32am

re: #1003 shanec99

I'm not sure about that one either. RW, do you mean the Dem. voters or the Dem. Party establishment would never allow a female President? I think the voters certainly would, but the power structure might work very hard to make it difficult for whoever she was.
In fact, if Obama had stayed in the Senate, I think we'd have Pres. Clinton right now.

1013 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:40am

re: #916 Dustyvet
"Remember the ARVIN'S taking VC on Helicopter rides...?"
I'd rather not, but do, occasionally in the middle of the night.

1014 Crux Australis  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:41am

re: #969 OldLineTexan

Hobbits tend to vote Conservative, yes?

It's real name is the Sutherland shire council area but Sydneysiders refer to it "the Shire" and it does vote conservative almost always during Federal elections but for some reason flip-flops between conservative and Labor in state elections. Same as the area where I live for some reason.

In the US do some areas vote Republican in Federal and Presidential elections but vote Democrat on the state level?

1015 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:48am

re: #1005 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You must have missed my post yesterday... quick recap: After service. I was in a plane wreck in Chapel Hill down the road from you in early 1998 (you might have seen it in the papers). Landed a 1949 Cessna 195 upsidedown. No fun. Impact smashed the disk between T1 and S1 (or is it T5, I forget the order... down low).

Best wishes for your injuries. I did the ruptured disc thing, no fun.

But rejoice. Any sissy can land a plane right side up.

Upside down takes skills.

1016 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:13am

re: #1013 realwest

"Remember the ARVIN'S taking VC on Helicopter rides...?"
I'd rather not, but do, occasionally in the middle of the night.

Same here...

1017 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:17am

Gotta go shower my sexy bod and go to work. See y'all this afternoon.

1018 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:26am

re: #1008 bellamags

Thanks... that's right!

1019 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:28am

re: #1012 Lincolntf

I'm not sure about that one either. RW, do you mean the Dem. voters or the Dem. Party establishment would never allow a female President? I think the voters certainly would, but the power structure might work very hard to make it difficult for whoever she was.
In fact, if Obama had stayed in the Senate, I think we'd have Pres. Clinton right now.

I'm beginning to wish he had stayed put.

1020 CommonCents  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:51am

re: #672 ArmyWife

I understand Hillary won't tolerate divisive any more, anyway.

"We are not any longer going to tolerate the kind of divisiveness that has paralyzed and undermined our ability to get things done for America." --HRC, leader of the divisive paralyzers against America

1021 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:07:07am

Just take a look at this, please.

You won't regret it.

1022 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:07:24am

re: #1005 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Did you see my #968?

1023 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:00am

re: #993 Iron Fist
OK if you say so... but I am unconvinced. The Clinton political organization overcame Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Monica Lewinski, White Water, Cattle futures and he left office with high approval ratings... it is formidable... but I may be wrong. Time will tell.

1024 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:02am

re: #927 DistantThunder
Huh? Uh, DT the biggest supporters of Abortion I've ever met (this was while living in NYC) were Woman of all ages - don't know about men between 18-34, but DISTINCTLY remember it was women, again of all ages who were the most pro-abortion rights.

1025 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:12am

Morning!

1026 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:46am

re: #1015 jcbunga

Best wishes for your injuries. I did the ruptured disc thing, no fun.

But rejoice. Any sissy can land a plane right side up.

Upside down takes skills.

Vet_Missing, you should claim you were practicing for landings in the southern hemisphere!

1027 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:50am

re: #1019 Jetpilot1101

I'm beginning to wish he had stayed put.

I'm wondering if they putting GPS tracking units on Interns, just in case they wonder too close to Slick Willie, when he's in the State Department building?

1028 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:55am

Some talking head on MSNBC from the NYT last night--

"Americans hate hypocrisy", commenting about The One not taking qustions.

It's only day 3 and the train wreck has begun.

1029 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:09am

re: #991 Occasional Reader

Yo-Yo Milli Vanilli?: "Wicked Cold" Leads Cellist to Fake the Funk
Massachusetts cellist Yo-Yo Ma was not playing his cello during Barack Obama's televised inauguration. Complaining that it was "wicked cold," the musician and sex symbol opted instead to pretend to perform while piping in a prerecorded track.
Good morning. Hope! Change! Bow-synching!

Whaaa?

1030 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:09am
1031 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:19am
1032 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:21am

re: #991 Occasional Reader

Good grief. Next you'll be telling me that Obama reads from a teleprompter!

1033 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:21am

re: #1010 Miss Trixie
Are the meet ups all over the nation... or just confined to Texas?

1034 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:30am

re: #1022 faraway

Did you see my #968?

I did... no actual spinal injury here, just mechanical damage.

1035 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:39am

re: #1028 jcbunga

Some talking head on MSNBC from the NYT last night--

"Americans hate hypocrisy", commenting about The One not taking qustions.

It's only day 3 and the train wreck has begun.

I always enjoy a slow moving train wreck.

1036 Big Steve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:46am

Last night the Texas Board of Education voted, in a close vote, to drop the requirement that districts teach the "strenghs and weaknesses" of evolution. This is a strong step in stiff arming out the intelligent design creep into the curriculum. The on-line article in the Houston Chroncile is interesting (Strengths and Weaknesse) but actually the print version in today's paper was better. However, I do get a laugh out of the ID backers claiming it was

“left-wing ideology,” for trying to stifle free speech.

that got it killed.

1037 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:10:15am

re: #1030 ploome hineni

The Olmert-Livini-Barak government has led to Israel's second lost war in its 60 year history.

1038 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:10:37am

re: #1026 Occasional Reader

Vet_Missing, you should claim you were practicing for landings in the southern hemisphere!

I don't think the FAA investigator had a sense of humor... in fact, I'm sure he didn't.

1039 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:10:42am

re: #740 Kenneth

Racist!

1040 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:50am

re: #1011 Kenneth

Oh yes, that'll work. (bashes head with a brick)

FOXNews had a story today about the poor Gazans coming home to their residences destroyed by Israel. Yeah, boo hoo.

1041 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:50am

re: #953 realwest

Oh, I don't know, Gillibrand may be a (D) but "Liberal Democrats have been wary of her because she ran for re-election with the backing of the National Rifle Association, opposed the federal TARP program to rescue banks, and has been less than enthusiastic about gay marriage." (from the link) and this time maybe the Leftists have some reason to howl!

Well, she's definitely better looking than Caroline Kennedy. Hell, who knows, she might vote with the GOP on some issues. This ought to be good.

1042 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:51am

re: #1029 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Whaaa?

Girl, you know it's true! Ooh, ooh, ooh!

Apparently, he was worried that the bitter cold would make the cello sound sucky (which, apparently, is a real concern).

1043 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:57am

NYTIMES providing cover for The One.

Suddenly, they discover that released Gitmo detainees return to terrorism upon release.

Freed by U.S., Saudi Becomes a Qaeda Chief

BEIRUT, Lebanon — The emergence of a [There have been DOZENS of former detainess killed or captured -BH] former Guantánamo Bay detainee as the deputy leader of Al Qaeda’s Yemeni branch has underscored the potential complications in carrying out the executive order President Obama signed Thursday that the detention center be shut down within a year.

The militant, Said Ali al-Shihri, is suspected of involvement in a deadly bombing of the United States Embassy in Yemen’s capital, Sana, in September. He was released to Saudi Arabia in 2007 and passed through a Saudi rehabilitation program for former jihadists before resurfacing with Al Qaeda in Yemen.

1044 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:12:06am

re: #424 Dublin(CA)Dude

Best wishes for a full recovery and prayers too.

1045 justabill  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:12:24am

re: #66 HelloDare

Freemasons are chumps. It's the Rotary Club members that hold the real power in this world. Them and the Quiznos Franchisees.

Have you by chance played the "Illuminati" game?

1046 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:12:31am

re: #1033 shanec99

Are the meet ups all over the nation... or just confined to Texas?

New England lizards are trying to organize one as we speak.

1047 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:12am

re: #1046 Bloodnok

New England lizards are trying to organize one as we speak.

On the menu? Chowda!

1048 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:22am

re: #1029 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Whaaa?

Sex symbol to who? Barbara Walters?

/ewww!

1049 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:23am

re: #1043 Ben Hur

No dummy-they got the story wrong...he is actually the leader of the new Boy Scout troop in Saudi Arabia.

1050 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:34am

re: #1045 justabill

Have you by chance played the "Illuminati" game?

The Gnomes of Zurich are watching us.

1051 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:50am

re: #1028 jcbunga

Some talking head on MSNBC from the NYT last night--

"Americans hate hypocrisy", commenting about The One not taking qustions.

It's only day 3 and the train wreck has begun.

Give Obama time. His inner "Mayor Chucky*" will come out in a press conference when some reporter starts asking really tough questions of him.

/*Daley is famous for his Mayor Chucky, so named as he resembles the doll from Child's Play when he gets pissed off in front of the cameras. I see Obama (D-Daley) doing likewise.

1052 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:55am

re: #1046 Bloodnok

You obviously need a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER!

/runs, ducks, heads for the hills

1053 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:08am

re: #1034 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I did... no actual spinal injury here, just mechanical damage.

I understand this same therapy, if it works, can be applied to regenerate bones as well.

1054 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:32am

re: #1019 Jetpilot1101

I remember saying (about 2 years ago) that ANYBODY would be better than Clinton. Consider this the retraction.

1055 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:44am

re: #1046 Bloodnok

New England lizards are trying to organize one as we speak.


hmmm... I will be coming home from Africa in a few months... can't wait to meet yall in person.

1056 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:49am

re: #1054 Lincolntf

I remember saying (about 2 years ago) that ANYBODY would be better than Clinton. Consider this the retraction.

Noted!

1057 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:15:26am

re: #981 Dustyvet

I have a question for you regarding Wales history, in the early 1950's was there any move by Wales to brake away from England?

No, not then, iirc.
It started in the late 60s, with the Meibion Glydwr (thats 'sons of Glendower, in English).
They resented a) having Prince Charles officially invested by the queen, at Caernarvon, as 'Prince of Wales' - and they resented b) that so many rich English people bought up Welsh cotatges to use as holiday accomodation for part of the year only, leaving no chance for young Welsh people to buy their own homes.
So they started to burn them cottages ...

What you're referring to may be the huge reservoir built in Mid-Wales, which water went to Birmingham, and nothing, not even the income, went to Wales. That made quite a few people very angry - but not in the sense of wanting to break away from England.

1058 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:15:49am

re: #1053 faraway

I understand this same therapy, if it works, can be applied to regenerate bones as well.

Well, maybe by the time it's worth the surgery, there will be better treatments than my buddy had available.

/fingers crossed.

1059 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:10am

re: #1054 Lincolntf

I remember saying (about 2 years ago) that ANYBODY would be better than Clinton. Consider this the retraction.

I said the same thing and then along came the messiah. Now I wish we had President Hillary Clinton. At the very least, she has had SOME experience in government.

Did you all catch the clips of Obama asking his lawyer what the hell the executive order he just signed actually meant? Unbelievable!

1060 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:22am

re: #1055 shanec99

hmmm... I will be coming home from Africa in a few months... can't wait to meet yall in person.

You must have just missed the Lizard meet-up in Eritrea!
/

1061 96RoadKing  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:55am

re: #1015 jcbunga

Best wishes for your injuries. I did the ruptured disc thing, no fun.

But rejoice. Any sissy can land a plane right side up.

Upside down takes skills.

Just butting in (as usual). I think Princeton University Medical Center came up with a new procedure with regards to treating herniated discs. I remember reading that they insert a fine wire through the disc wall into the 'heart' of the disc, then heat the material to a fairly high degree, resulting in a repair of the rupture from the inside. This was prior to full FDA approval, but the initial results were very promising. One of the study's patients noted immediate relief, with complete reversal of all related problems going away within about 20 minutes. I haven't seen anything more in the last 5 years, but it might be something to explore.

1062 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:55am

re: #969 OldLineTexan

Hobbits tend to vote Conservative, yes?

They're big Ron Paulians. Every time he mentions the "gold standard" Frodo goes nuts.

1063 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:17:02am
1064 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:17:41am

re: #1054 Lincolntf

I remember saying (about 2 years ago) that ANYBODY would be better than Clinton. Consider this the retraction.


I remember telling a Democrat friend of mine to always recite his ABC's before going to vote. He did.
See where it got us? I will never use cliches again.
ABC means anyone but Clinton.

1065 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:17:54am

re: #1055 shanec99

hmmm... I will be coming home from Africa in a few months... can't wait to meet yall in person.

We're working on it. I haven't seen Capecoddah on here recently. We'll get one together.

1066 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:17:54am

re: #1057 yma o hyd

What you're referring to may be the huge reservoir built in Mid-Wales, which water went to Birmingham, and nothing, not even the income, went to Wales.

You folks should have seen to it that the reservoir sprung a leek.

/rimshot

1067 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:18:03am

re: #1055 shanec99

hmmm... I will be coming home from Africa in a few months... can't wait to meet yall in person.

Not sure where you will be stateside, but you are more than welcome (no date, time or place has been set). Canadian lizards are welcome too! Loppyd, JetPilot and Cape Coddah are doing most of the heavy work in organizing. I shouldn't talk.

1068 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:18:31am

Officials: Obama to reverse abortion policy

Obama, you've done it now. Millions of Christians will be marching on DC within weeks or months. The beginning of the end.

1069 vapig  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:18:35am

re: #953 realwest

Oh, I don't know, Gillibrand may be a (D) but "Liberal Democrats have been wary of her because she ran for re-election with the backing of the National Rifle Association, opposed the federal TARP program to rescue banks, and has been less than enthusiastic about gay marriage." (from the link) and this time maybe the Leftists have some reason to howl!

I hear ya, but still. . .I smell something fishy here. Why would a dem hire a "blue-dog" conservative dem to the seat? They never do anything unless they plan to get something out of it.

1070 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:18:39am

re: #1059 Jetpilot1101

I said the same thing and then along came the messiah. Now I wish we had President Hillary Clinton. At the very least, she has had SOME experience in government.

Did you all catch the clips of Obama asking his lawyer what the hell the executive order he just signed actually meant? Unbelievable!

That just shows that President Obama is willing to ask questions & listen to his advisors, which stands in stark contrast to the hubris exhibited over the last eight years by Bush.
/MSM mode off

1071 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:18:49am

re: #1065 Jetpilot1101

We're working on it. I haven't seen Capecoddah on here recently. We'll get one together.

Speak of the devil...

1072 Lincolntf  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:18:59am

re: #1059 Jetpilot1101

I saw that.
If it were anyone else I'd say that the bloom was coming off the rose, but nobody on the Left will ever acknowledge that their "preternaturally gifted" Leader often comes off as a stumblebum with no grasp of his responsibilities.

1073 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:19:18am

re: #1033 shanec99

Are the meet ups all over the nation... or just confined to Texas?

There's no set agenda or location - just whoever wants to and where.

The exception being WriterMom's World Famous and Super-Duper Exciting Toronto Luncheons, of course.

1074 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:19:20am

re: #1061 96RoadKing

Huh... they cook it from the inside? Interesting.

1075 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:19:26am
1076 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:19:31am

Hillary at least appears to be cut from the old fashioned political schemer/crook that we know.

The One- since he's never held a full time job for more than a couple years- could turn out to be anything from Bozo to the AntiChrist.

1077 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:02am

re: #1068 faraway

Wow. Priorities, huh? Guess he really wants to make sure that your tax dollars don't punish anyone with a child...

1078 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:08am

re: #984 shanec99
Nope, she's not kidding - haven't had one down here in N.C. (where we must have a dozen or so LGFers) since I've been here, but I helped organize two meetups in NYC when I lived there.
A number of the organizers of those prior meet ups however are no longer lizards in good standing and no one seems to have stepped up to take their place.

1079 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:27am

re: #1075 Iron Fist

That's only because the One doesn't have any answers. We are well and truly fucked. We were talking about it at the tattoo parlor last night. obama doesn't have many friends around here.

Were you getting an Obama tattoo?

/

1080 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:30am

Greetings, salutations, and TGIF, everyone. Drinking chocolate-laced oolong mint tea today. Not bad, not bad. Running two machine updates at once, and hanging out here. Man, how I love to multitask.

1081 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:59am

re: #1058 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Well, maybe by the time it's worth the surgery, there will be better treatments than my buddy had available.

/fingers crossed.

It's not really surgery. They create millions of bone cells, then simply inject them into your body. Stem cell therapy is the 21st century equivalent of antibiotics.

1082 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:05am
1083 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:06am

Good Morning You All.
Still get queasy when I hear the words 'President obama'.

1084 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:14am

re: #1076 jcbunga

Hillary at least appears to be cut from the old fashioned political schemer/crook that we know.

The One- since he's never held a full time job for more than a couple years- could turn out to be anything from Bozo to the AntiChrist.

The One is like a box of chocolates...

/paging Forrest Gump

1085 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:29am

re: #1079 Wyatt Earp

Were you getting an Obama tattoo?

/

I wonder how many Kool-Aid drinkers have gotten Obama tattoos?

1086 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:43am

re: #1054 Lincolntf

I remember saying (about 2 years ago) that ANYBODY would be better than Clinton. Consider this the retraction.

Clinton would have been worse as POTUS, IMO.

Maybe she would not be so moonbatty on the GWOT, but with that Clinton Foundation accepting bribes contributions, we would not know which way is up. It's bad enough with her at State.

1087 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:44am

re: #1078 realwest

Nope, she's not kidding - haven't had one down here in N.C. (where we must have a dozen or so LGFers) since I've been here, but I helped organize two meetups in NYC when I lived there.
A number of the organizers of those prior meet ups however are no longer lizards in good standing and no one seems to have stepped up to take their place.

Real, even if I were in your state, you wouldn't want me to handle setting up such a get-together. I may be okay on computers, but I suck at planning parties!

1088 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:54am

Enemies Without Fear

The single most dangerous ignorance in modern liberalism is its inability to understand a very basic aspect of human motivation: when there are not consequences for bad actions, bad actors feel encouraged to act bad. While you or I may not feel an urge to rob a bank or break into a home to steal, if we have learned nothing else about modern criminology it is that when criminals do not fear punishment, they commit a lot more crimes.

Why is crime on the rise from its already rampant levels in Western European cities? When British burglars have a 1 in 1000 chance of getting caught, there is no downside to burglary. That is why the average home in Britain has reportedly been broken into once every seven years. London is less safe than most areas of Chicago and London's worst areas are no less dangerous than the worst Southside neighborhoods. Most crime in Britain is not reported, less and less of reported crimes are solved; the average PC spends hours filing in paperwork for a simple arrest.

This problem applies to terrorism as well. The central thesis of the 911 Commission Report is American inaction and perceived weakness in response to earlier attacks on our citizens and interests emboldened Bin Laden to believe he could get away with attacking the US homeland.

So what does our beloved Commander in Chief do on his first day of office? Why he bans harsh interrogation techniques so the little darlings who want to enslave, convert or kill every many woman and child in our nation don't have to worry their little heads about having to give up any of Osama's secrets.

Obama said he would restore our reputation in the world and he did it in his first day in office! Our reputation as a bunch of idiots and targets is firmly re-established. Don't get me wrong, torture is almost always wrong, in a perfect world it would never be used. Its proper place is in a gray area, never condoned but potentially forgiven.

Now, if an officer sworn to protect this nation faces exigent circumstances, his duty is now clear: sit back and watch a bunch of us die. Our government has abdicated its responsibility to protect its citizens rather than to cause unpleasantry to an enemy. Our enemies are more secure in their plotting against us. They now have rights! They have the right to assert the whole Bill of Rights against us even while they wage war to destroy those selfsame rights.

History only repeats itself when we let it; Barack Obama has consigned a future group of Americans to die because he has willfully, blindly and stupidly taken away our enemies' fear. This emboldens them to attack us. Another lesson of the 911 Commission is they hate us because they hate us. President Bush failed to get them to love us and Obama failed as well. There is no convincing these folks, you can only deter or kill them.

Mr. Obama, when the enemy inevitably attacks, I will be calling for you to resign or be impeached, for failing to defend this nation. Liberals set great store by the Summer 2001 NIE reporting that Bin Laden was determined to attack America; when your disaster comes, there won't be such a document, death will come out of the blue and it will be your fault because you facilitated it with liberal criminal stupidity. You spoke of responsibility in your inaugural address, well this is your Iraq invasion- your unilateral act that will inevitably cause people to die. By not understanding human nature, and especially the nature of those most hostile to America, the al Qaedas Irans and Hezbollahs of this world, you have given a big green light to attack us. The worst they have to fear from an Obama administration is prison. 10% of the released Gitmo detainees went back to war against the US; naturally, you will be releasing as many more of these guys as you can.

When your fellow Liberals are done gutting our other defenses, America will be ripe for another attack major attack. You just put the whole country at risk, with stroke of a pen. Not bad for your first day on the job.

1089 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:54am

re: #1084 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The One is like a box of chocolates...

/paging Forrest Gump

RACIST!

/

1090 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:59am

re: #1066 Occasional Reader

You folks should have seen to it that the reservoir sprung a leek.

/rimshot

Yeah - but at that time, people actually had excellent manners - and the overwhelming majority of Welsh went to chapel regularly - any of the Non-conformist denominations.
it would simply not have occurred to them to do something wicked like that.

1091 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:22:00am

re: #1028 jcbunga

Some talking head on MSNBC from the NYT last night--

"Americans hate hypocrisy", commenting about The One not taking qustions.

It's only day 3 and the train wreck has begun.

1092 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:22:12am

re: #1054 Lincolntf

I remember saying (about 2 years ago) that ANYBODY would be better than Clinton. Consider this the retraction.

See how the 0ne has brought us change? We now find the Clintons don't look so bad.

How much longer before we look back at the Carter administration with fondness?
"Yes, there were lines for gasoline, but that's because we still could buy gasoline, son."
/

1093 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:22:14am

re: #1057 yma o hyd

No, not then, iirc.
It started in the late 60s, with the Meibion Glydwr (thats 'sons of Glendower, in English).
They resented a) having Prince Charles officially invested by the queen, at Caernarvon, as 'Prince of Wales' - and they resented b) that so many rich English people bought up Welsh cotatges to use as holiday accomodation for part of the year only, leaving no chance for young Welsh people to buy their own homes.
So they started to burn them cottages ...

What you're referring to may be the huge reservoir built in Mid-Wales, which water went to Birmingham, and nothing, not even the income, went to Wales. That made quite a few people very angry - but not in the sense of wanting to break away from England.

Thanks very much for the help, the incident I'm researching is something that occurred in North Wales around 1952-53.

1094 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:22:24am

re: #1072 Lincolntf

I saw that.
If it were anyone else I'd say that the bloom was coming off the rose, but nobody on the Left will ever acknowledge that their "preternaturally gifted" Leader often comes off as a stumblebum with no grasp of his responsibilities.

And as much as the media whores were in the tank, they are starting to turn on him because they expected unprecedented access. I got to give the President this one, at least he had the brains to coral the media and control them. If he gave them unprecedented access, he'd be the laughing stock of the world. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during some cabinet meetings just to hear Biden gaff it up.

1095 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:22:32am

re: #1060 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You must have just missed the Lizard meet-up in Eritrea!
/


Eritrea is one tough place... last June they shot up soldiers in Djibouti when I was in Djibouti... I am no longer there. Djibouit shares a border with Eritrea, one with Somalia and one with Ethiopia. It's a bad neighborhood, but it has a democratically elected government and is the only host for a US base in sub-saharan Africa.
Eritrea / Ethiopian war killied hundreds of thousands.
If there are Lizards in Eritrea, they had better keep their heads down.

1096 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:20am

re: #1063 Iron Fist

You know it's a real LGF party when you have a range safety office and a medic on hand

In keeping with our new era of Change!, future LGF meetups will concentrate on things like group therapy, healing circles, and sitting down to talk without preconditions, or beer. Instead of preparing satchel charges, we'll be preparing to talk about Satchel Paige, and the lingering racism in AmeriKKKa, which can only be overcome by spreading your wealth and volunteering all your time to progressive causes. Rather than firing Barretts, we'll be sharing Bartlett organic pears, while rejoicing in the celebration of Earth Mother Gaia.

That is all.

1097 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:30am

The One's first war crime:

Missiles kill 7 in NW Pakistan

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) - Missiles fired from a suspected U.S. spy plane killed seven people Friday on the Pakistan side of the Afghan border, a lawless region where al-Qaida militants are known to hide out, officials said.

The strike was the first on Pakistani territory since the inauguration of President Barrack Obama.

Pakistani leaders had expressed hope Obama would halt the attacks, more than 30 of which have been launched since the middle of last year, reportedly killing several senior militants.

The pro-U.S. government routinely protests them as a violation of the country's sovereignty, but most observers speculate it has an unwritten agreement allowing them to take place.

One drone fired three missiles into the village of Zharki in North Waziristan, hitting two buildings, the intelligence officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

At least seven people were killed, but there identities were not immediately known.

The United States rarely acknowledges firing the missiles, which are mostly fired from drones believed launched from neighboring Afghanistan.

Pakistan's air force is not known to possess drones. NATO officers in Afghanistan say they respect Pakistani sovereignty.

Wow. Firing from 20,000 feet from a plane costing 10s of millions of dollars controlled by remote control by someone sitting in, where is it again? South Carolina or somewhere? Firing at a guy in a $2 mud hut while he's have dinner?

They must have been firing rockets daily for years into the US because that response was insanely disproportionate.

Didn't they have families with them? Who cooked? Who cleaned? Surely civilians.

Does Pakistan border the US? I forgot.

Stop the American genocide against people who were not actively firing a weapon!

It's the return of THE DOUBLE STANDARD.

1098 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:33am

Oh, Miss Trixie. I think I found the problem with your Transit Strike Negotiations.

/caution rest of site contains very strong adult situations.

1099 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:40am
1100 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:47am

re: #1093 Dustyvet

Thanks very much for the help, the incident I'm researching is something that occurred in North Wales around 1952-53.

North Wales is about 20 minutes outside where I live. Nothing much ever happens there.
/

1101 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:48am

re: #1089 Wyatt Earp

RACIST!

/

ANTI-SNICKERITE !

///

1102 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:48am

re: #1040 Wyatt Earp

FOXNews had a story today about the poor Gazans coming home to their residences destroyed by Israel. Yeah, boo hoo.

There was another story about the Gazans discovering their homes booby-trapped by Hamas and being very angry about that too. IT all depends on who asks whom.

1103 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:53am

re: #1003 shanec99
OK - Hillary. She won (albeit by a small margin) the popular vote nationwide in the Dem primaries; she had more experience than did (does) Obama; she won ALL the major electoral states except Illinois and the backroom fat cats superdelegates gave the nomination to Obama.
What makes you think they'll give it to a woman the next time around?

1104 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:39am

re: #1073 Miss Trixie

There's no set agenda or location - just whoever wants to and where.

The exception being WriterMom's World Famous and Super-Duper Exciting Toronto Luncheons, of course.

any in the NYC or Maryland area?

1105 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:40am

re: #936 Jetpilot1101

Tha Mahdi from its well?

1106 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:42am

re: #783 Killian Bundy

*spit in your face*

1107 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:49am

re: #1102 Kenneth

There was another story about the Gazans discovering their homes booby-trapped by Hamas and being very angry about that too. IT all depends on who asks whom.

See what happens when you elect an incompetent party to run the government?

There's your high fastball, guys . . .

1108 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:58am

re: #1083 newsjunkie_ky

Good Morning You All.
Still get queasy when I hear the words 'President obama'.

Hiya, {newsjunkie_ky}!

Saw a photo of PB0 signing his first executive orders - gah, he looked so uncomfortable and cramped.
(Serves him right!)

1109 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:17am

re: #1005 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Sigh, sorry LT I didn't see that post. Um, whay'd you land it upside down?!?
:)

1110 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:26am

re: #1068 faraway

Officials: Obama to reverse abortion policy

Obama, you've done it now. Millions of Christians will be marching on DC within weeks or months. The beginning of the end.


For the scientists!

1111 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:36am

War boosted extremists in Gaza, says UN official
Published: 01.23.09, 16:34 / Israel News
Israel's invasion of Gaza has strengthened the hand of extremists and only a credible independent investigation into alleged wrongdoing can quieten growing Palestinian anger, a UN aid official said on Friday.

John Ging, head of the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in Gaza, called for new US Middle East envoy George Mitchell to talk to ordinary people in Gaza as part of a "new track" in diplomacy. (Reuters)

How much crap can one organization possibly spew in one week?

1112 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:05am

re: #1101 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

ANTI-SNICKERITE !

///

GENTELMEN. YOU CAN'T FIGHT IN HERE...THIS IS THE WAR ROOM...:)

1113 96RoadKing  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:14am

re: #1074 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Huh... they cook it from the inside? Interesting.


Think about it. Visualize the disc as a cheese danish. The damage is actually occuring from the inside to the outside. When the disc's (or danish's) outer wall is too thin, you have a rupture. Reseal the inside and provide enough scarring, and the filling has nowhere to go.

There's been a lot of research lately on what causes herniated discs. I won't bore you with it, as most people want to know how to fix the damage vs. how to avoid it.

1114 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:18am

re: #1082 buzzsawmonkey

and life for him was a gay roundelay

NTTAWWT

Indeed, we could quickly drift toward the British (sorry, Brit lizards, no offense) phenomenon of "I'm on the dole" being a kind of job description, with no particular sense of urgency attached to getting off the dole.

1115 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:21am

re: #1095 shanec99

Eritrea is one tough place... last June they shot up soldiers in Djibouti when I was in Djibouti... I am no longer there. Djibouit shares a border with Eritrea, one with Somalia and one with Ethiopia. It's a bad neighborhood, but it has a democratically elected government and is the only host for a US base in sub-saharan Africa.
Eritrea / Ethiopian war killied hundreds of thousands.
If there are Lizards in Eritrea, they had better keep their heads down.

I'm modeling a Su-27 Flanker in Eritrean colors, so I Eritrea on the brain. Russia supplied both Ethiopia & Eritrea with this plane for the recent war.

1116 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:57am

1re: #1012 Lincolntf
Kindly see my #1103.

1117 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:21am

re: #1102 Kenneth

There was another story about the Gazans discovering their homes booby-trapped by Hamas and being very angry about that too. IT all depends on who asks whom.

Them Gazans gotta get them wunna these 3rd Amendments:

"No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."

1118 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:31am

re: #1024 realwest


re: #927 DistantThunder
Huh? Uh, DT the biggest supporters of Abortion I've ever met (this was while living in NYC) were Woman of all ages - don't know about men between 18-34, but DISTINCTLY remember it was women, again of all ages who were the most pro-abortion rights.

Morning, real. I think DT is referring to the fact that millions of men have now been able to escape their responsibilities and consequences by simply saying "Its your right to choose, baby"! "Its a choice, not a child", etc...

1119 Miss Trixie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:09am

Ack! Off to a meeting.

Blue - thanks for the link - will check when I return.

1120 Learned Mother of Zion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:18am

re: #848 Kenneth

Lone attacker, male, his face was painted white with his eyes painted black. that's the only description of him so far.

Heath Ledger wannabee?

1121 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:26am

I wish I was a journalist.

I would ask him how it felt to kill 7 people his first day in office.

1122 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:29am

re: #1108 yma o hyd

Hiya, {newsjunkie_ky}!

Saw a photo of PB0 signing his first executive orders - gah, he looked so uncomfortable and cramped.
(Serves him right!)


And he didn't even know what his 'executive order' was about and had to turn to his atty to explain it to him and the press.

Hiya Yma

1123 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:41am

re: #1095 shanec99

There are lots of Ethiopian and Eritrean immigrants here in the DC area. From what I understand, they get along very well here, even when their respective countries are at war. They're also pretty much model immigrants... hardworking, focus on education, they run successful small to medium businesses and then send their kids to college.

1124 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:52am

re: #1096 Occasional Reader
A pox on you and all your house.

1125 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:57am

re: #1120 Alouette

Heath Ledger wannabee?

Be on the lookout for the bizarro Al Jolson.

1126 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:24am

re: #1082 buzzsawmonkey

Well, when I was out of work for 20 months a few years ago, I would have liked the extended benefits, but that wouldn't stop me from looking for work. The maximum in Mass was less than half I was making; it would cover housing (and mine is relatively inexpensive for MA) and health insurance. That's it - no utilities, no heat, no food.

And I supplemented it with online teaching and adjunct faculty at a NH community college. Enough to stretch things out, but not enough to make a huge difference.

I'm still paying off the debt I incurred.

Let benefits be long, but low enough that people do their best to get back to work.

1127 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:43am

re: #1117 jcbunga

Them Gazans gotta get them wunna these 3rd Amendments:

"No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."


If he's got C-Rations and the keys to a tank, he can stay...:)

1128 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:50am

re: #1118 Spenser (with an S)

Morning, real. I think DT is referring to the fact that millions of men have now been able to escape their responsibilities and consequences by simply saying "Its your right to choose, baby"! "Its a choice, not a child", etc...

I have a friend whom I haven't seen in years, but when we were in grad school together she was the staunchest pro-abortion person I had ever met. Then she did some research and learned about the appalling conditions of the clinics and the lack of standards for how to perform said abortions. She didn't stop being pro-abortion, but she realized that the same medical protocols and state regulations that are applied to medical clinics must also be applied to abortion clinics.

Then she had a child of her own. I have no idea if that changed her mind, though.

1129 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:00am

re: #1125 Wyatt Earp

Be on the lookout for the bizarro Al Jolson.

Peter Criss was taken in for questioning. /

1130 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:07am

re: #1125 Wyatt Earp

Be on the lookout for the bizarro Al Jolson.

Me am Jazz Singer! Good-bye!

1131 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:09am

re: #1088 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Excellent post, thank you!

One more aspect to add: the LLL has instilled in the relevant organisations (police, prison admin, judiciary) the meme that criminals are ictims - and victims really are responsible for making the poor criminals do what they do.

This same attitude is now slowly, and since PB0, faster, being applied to terrorists.

The MFM have lapped it all up.
Next step - we'll all have to apologise to terrorists for making them into terrorists!

1132 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:16am

re: #1121 Ben Hur

I wish I was a journalist.

I would ask him how it felt to kill 7 people his first day in office.

Can the tribunal to prosecute the pilots of pilotless drones be far behind?

R2D2 presiding.

1133 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:48am

re: #1109 realwest

Sigh, sorry LT I didn't see that post. Um, whay'd you land it upside down?!?
:)

Taking a trip to visit the buddy in Raleigh, night landing at Chapel Hill. The 195 bounced on landing and cocked 30 degrees off the runway heading (big ole taildragger). I ran the engine up to go around and try again. Got airborne but was headed toward the trees at the side of the runway (you guys grow 'em big in NC!), made an emergency turn to miss the trees but as a result stalled out at about 70 feet and dropped into the dirt. Skidded along the ground for a bit, then that big radial engine dug into the ground flipping the thing over and ripping the engine off.

If that thing wasn't built in 1949 by men who knew how to make things strong, I wouldn't be here to talk about it. No affirmative action wing construction there, I'll tell you. Saved my life.

1134 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:52am

re: #1097 Ben Hur

It's the return of THE DOUBLE STANDARD.

"Return"? When did it leave?

1135 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:58am

re: #1096 Occasional Reader

Too funny.

1136 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:20am

re: #1093 Dustyvet

Thanks very much for the help, the incident I'm researching is something that occurred in North Wales around 1952-53.

Before me time, I'm fraid - thats when I started to learn how to read and write :-)))

1137 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:25am

Non-violence can't tackle terror: Dalai
NEW DELHI: The Dalai Lama, a lifelong champion of non-violence on Saturday candidly stated that terrorism cannot be tackled by applying the
principle of ahimsa because the minds of terrorists are closed.

"It is difficult to deal with terrorism through non-violence," the Tibetan spiritual leader said delivering the Madhavrao Scindia Memorial Lecture here.

He also termed terrorism as the worst kind of violence which is not carried by a few mad people but by those who are very brilliant and educated.

"They (terrorists) are very brilliant and educated...but a strong ill feeling is bred in them. Their minds are closed," the Dalai Lama said.

He said that the only way to tackle terrorism is through prevention. The head of the Tibetan government-in-exile left the audience stunned when he said "I love President George W Bush." He went on to add how he and the US President instantly struck a chord in their first meeting unlike politicians who take a while to develop close ties.
Wonder what richard gere thinks about this?

1138 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:48am

re: #1126 Kosh's Shadow

Well, when I was out of work for 20 months a few years ago, I would have liked the extended benefits, but that wouldn't stop me from looking for work. The maximum in Mass was less than half I was making; it would cover housing (and mine is relatively inexpensive for MA) and health insurance. That's it - no utilities, no heat, no food.

And I supplemented it with online teaching and adjunct faculty at a NH community college. Enough to stretch things out, but not enough to make a huge difference.

I'm still paying off the debt I incurred.

Let benefits be long, but low enough that people do their best to get back to work.

I was out of work for a year. I had compensation from the company for four months, and I decided I would take those four months as my vacation, to figure out my options for where to apply for a job. It still took me eight months to get a job, but I had unemployment kick in at that point.

1139 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:32:44am

Former CIA staffer Michael Scheuer was interviewed by German magazine Die Zeit a few years ago. What he had to say is suddenly very current again, in light of Obama's decision to start the process of closing Gitmo:

Die Zeit: Your partner countries thus wanted to pass on the work to the CIA?

Michael Scheuer: Yes, but they did not want the persons to remain on their territory. The CIA did not arrest or imprison anybody themselves.

Die Zeit: I beg your pardon?

Michael Scheuer: The local police or the local secret services took care of that. We always stayed in the background. The American government is full of cowards. They do not permit the CIA to work independently.

Die Zeit: Did the interrogations take place in the target country?

Michael Scheuer: We always submitted our questions in writing.

Die Zeit: The CIA never really took part in the interrogations?

Michael Scheuer: I have never heard of anything like that. The lawyers enjoined us from doing so.

Die Zeit: Did you not have doubts concerning the use of torture in these countries?

Michael Scheuer: No, my job was to protect American citizens by arresting members of Al-Qaida. The executive power of our government has to decide whether it considers this hypocritical or not. 90% of this operation was successful and only 10% could be considered as disastrous.

Die Zeit: Which part was the disaster?

Michael Scheuer: The fact that everything was made public. From now on the Europeans will diminish their assistance because they fear reading about it in the Washington Post. And then there is this troublemaker in the Senate, Senator John McCain, who virtually confessed, wrongly of course, that the CIA uses torture. And that is how the program will be destroyed.

1140 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:32:52am

re: #1035 Jetpilot1101

I always enjoy a slow moving train wreck.

Just duck when the flying debris heads your way.

1141 Rednek  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:12am

Charles might find this interesting

State amends school science curriculum standards

AUSTIN — The State Board of Education tentatively decided to amend school science curriculum standards Thursday, dropping a 20-year-old requirement that critics say is used to undermine the theory of evolution.

The change in curriculum drops the mandate that science teachers address both “strengths and weaknesses” of scientific theory. It would be in place for the next decade.

A panel of science teachers had recommended that the language be dropped.

Kathy Miller, president of the watchdog group Texas Freedom Network, has argued that the word weaknesses “has become a code word in the culture wars to attack evolution and promote creationism.”

1142 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:18am

re: #1130 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Me am Jazz Singer! Good-bye!

"Isn't the oppostie of good-bye, 'bad-bye?'" - Elaine Benes

1144 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:47am

re: #1121 Ben Hur

I wish I was a journalist.

I would ask him how it felt to kill 7 people his first day in office.

He's shaping the battlefield for Pakistan Invasion.

1145 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:20am

re: #1139 Kenneth

Former CIA staffer Michael Scheuer was interviewed by German magazine Die Zeit a few years ago. What he had to say is suddenly very current again, in light of Obama's decision to start the process of closing Gitmo:

Scheuer's kind of a nut, but he's dead-on here.

1146 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:40am

re: #1143 Alouette

Don't forget to cast your vote for the new Hamas mascot!

I voted for Dora the Infidel Whora.

1147 wahabicorridor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:54am

test

1148 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:55am

That Hollyweird I plege thing is so creepy.

1149 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:58am

re: #1123 Occasional Reader

There are lots of Ethiopian and Eritrean immigrants here in the DC area. From what I understand, they get along very well here, even when their respective countries are at war. They're also pretty much model immigrants... hardworking, focus on education, they run successful small to medium businesses and then send their kids to college.


Home for me is in Gaithersburg, I have been to Adams Morgan and had meals at the Ethiopian joints... good food.
I like Ethiopians, nice people (really pretty girls) and hard working. Havn't met any Eritreans... but some people who call themselves Ethiopians to my face may actually be Eritrean, because until the 70s Eritrea was a part of Ethiopia.

1150 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:08am

re: #1146 Jetpilot1101

LOLOL

1151 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:24am

re: #1137 newsjunkie_ky

That sound you hear is moonbat heads detonating, from horizon to horizon.

1152 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:26am

re: #1100 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

North Wales is about 20 minutes outside where I live. Nothing much ever happens there.
/

Heh.
Better exchange it for this North Wales!

Pretty outstanding mountains there, for a start ...

1153 marge45b  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:32am

I count the days 'till we have another attack. And Obama's going to act like Clinton did when the USS Cole got attacked. NOTHING! NOT! ZIP! I'm telling ya' it ain't going to be pretty.

1154 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:51am
1155 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:56am

Just sent this to a moonbat on my denomination's "social justice" blog-


I hope you don't mind but I wanted to vent a little over some of our President's latest choices. We now are closing Gitmo which I see as totally symbolic and something that will lead to more human suffering, ironically for the terrorists too. Now, instead of a cot and three meals a day, they will either be freed to the loving embrace of the Mukhabarat or killed outright on the battlefield. The latter because there is no need to take the risk in capturing anyone alive for intelligence anymore because we can't question them toughly.

Meanwhile, he is about to sign a bill reversing our policy on funding abortions abroad. Now, our tax dollars will be taken from us and used to fund abortions around the world causing the deaths of 3rd-world children before they can draw a breath.

1156 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:36:32am

Just heard a blurb on TV, that two rapppers at the Hip Hop Ball did a real obscene thing on Bush. Anybody know anything?

1157 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:36:32am

re: #1143 Alouette

Don't forget to cast your vote for the new Hamas mascot!


With the options present, it was a tough vote, but I had to go with Mustaffa the Muslim Maggot.

IMO- They should have gone with a vote between the Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich.

1158 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:36:36am

re: #1144 DeafDog

He's shaping the battlefield for Pakistan Invasion.

This is profoundly funny.

The One couldn't shape a battlefield if both chutes failed to open after he was pushed out.

1159 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:36:38am

re: #1111 Nevergiveup

War boosted extremists in Gaza, says UN official
Published: 01.23.09, 16:34 / Israel News
Israel's invasion of Gaza has strengthened the hand of extremists and only a credible independent investigation into alleged wrongdoing can quieten growing Palestinian anger, a UN aid official said on Friday.

John Ging, head of the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) in Gaza, called for new US Middle East envoy George Mitchell to talk to ordinary people in Gaza as part of a "new track" in diplomacy. (Reuters)

How much crap can one organization possibly spew in one week?

If the world let Israel take out Hamas, then the extremists would be weakened. When the world forces Israel to withdraw (or 0lmerde and crew listen to the anti-Semites at the UN and to the 0bama administration), the extremists are weakened.

The UN and 0bama (and the rest of the world) are strengthening extremists, with the co-operation of the 0lmerde and Livni administration).

1160 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:06am

re: #1153 marge45b

I count the days 'till we have another attack. And Obama's going to act like Clinton did when the USS Cole got attacked. NOTHING! NOT! ZIP! I'm telling ya' it ain't going to be pretty.

Oh come on, I'm sure Obama will find a few convenient aspirin or baby formula factories to level. Or he could go the other route and launch million dollar cruise missiles at empty 3 dollar tents.

1161 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:15am

re: #1137 newsjunkie_ky

Non-violence can't tackle terror: Dalai
NEW DELHI: The Dalai Lama, a lifelong champion of non-violence on Saturday candidly stated that terrorism cannot be tackled by applying the
principle of ahimsa because the minds of terrorists are closed.

"It is difficult to deal with terrorism through non-violence," the Tibetan spiritual leader said delivering the Madhavrao Scindia Memorial Lecture here.

He also termed terrorism as the worst kind of violence which is not carried by a few mad people but by those who are very brilliant and educated.

"They (terrorists) are very brilliant and educated...but a strong ill feeling is bred in them. Their minds are closed," the Dalai Lama said.

He said that the only way to tackle terrorism is through prevention. The head of the Tibetan government-in-exile left the audience stunned when he said "I love President George W Bush." He went on to add how he and the US President instantly struck a chord in their first meeting unlike politicians who take a while to develop close ties.
Wonder what richard gere thinks about this?

What does his gerbil think about it?

1162 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:22am

re: #1122 newsjunkie_ky

No class, no manners, no style - no matter what the swooning MFM would have us believe!

1163 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:49am
1164 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:54am

re: #1156 opnion

Just heard a blurb on TV, that two rapppers at the Hip Hop Ball did a real obscene thing on Bush. Anybody know anything?


Allegedly, two "musicians" held up a "F**k Bush" sign at the Ball. I saw it on Yahoo, but don't have the link. I am pretty sure one of those involved is George Clinton.

1165 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:02am

re: #1160 Jetpilot1101

Oh come on, I'm sure Obama will find a few convenient aspirin or baby formula factories to level. Or he could go the other route and launch million dollar cruise missiles at empty 3 dollar tents.

Or blame it on right-wing domestic terrorists.

1166 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:14am

From another site:

can all the wise ‘conservative’ thought leaders please exit stage left please so we can get on with the business of saving our nation from socialism

1167 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:20am

Hey cool. Did you guys notice that when you click on a link that you can now check the previous and last message by clicking on arrows at the top of the page? When did this come in?

1168 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:21am

re: #1156 opnion

Just heard a blurb on TV, that two rapppers at the Hip Hop Ball did a real obscene thing on Bush. Anybody know anything?


Yep. It was disgusting.

N word. White man's lies, etc. and that was them speaking. The lyrics are worse.

1169 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:23am
Michael Scheuer: Our leaders did not wish us to treat them like prisoners of war but rather like common criminals. Additionally, they feared that they would never be able to assemble sufficient proof in order to defend the case before our law courts.

Die Zeit: Is it that difficult?

Michael Scheuer: In order to obtain a judgement against someone in the USA, an American law officer has to read him the Miranda rights when arresting him. This is impossible to do in a foreign country. Secondly, the investigators have to confirm the authenticity of the documents to the court. Should nobody be able to do so, the court automatically presumes that the documents have been tampered with. Thus it is almost impossible to obtain a judgement.

None of the prisoners currently held in Gitmo will be convicted in a US court. Obama has opened a Pandora's box of legal contradictions, intelligence failures and security threats. And unless he re-instates some tools of "enhanced interrogation techniques" for the toughest terrorists, there will be no point in capturing any of them alive in future.

1170 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:24am

re: #1136 yma o hyd

Before me time, I'm fraid - thats when I started to learn how to read and write :-)))

I think that's anout the time I was learning to escape from the play pen...:)

1171 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:32am

re: #1148 WriterMom

That Hollyweird I plege thing is so creepy.


Iowahawk has a funny parody, in case you missed it.

1172 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:53am

re: #1168 jcbunga

Yep. It was disgusting.

N word. White man's lies, etc. and that was them speaking. The lyrics are worse.

Stay classy dems, stay classy.

1173 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:39:12am

re: #975 buzzsawmonkey

The sad thing is that the Democrats are committed to breaking with, or to be seen, at least, to be breaking with, the policies and practices of the previous Republican administration merely on the grounds that those policies and practices were Republican, and not on the grounds of whether they were wise or practical.

The news media, who are ideologically committed to the evil of Republicans even more than the Democrats, are dogging the Democrats' heels to make sure they do this.

The result is that--mindful of what happened to Joe Lieberman--no Democrat, unless s/he is possessed of extraordinary courage and an unshakeable power base, will stand up against the dizzying spiral towards a new direction--any new direction--that turns its back on the last eight years.

The Republicans are too few, too fragmented, and too marginalized by the media and popular sentiment to be able to combat this at present. It is possible that they may be able to begin to voice objections effectively once the current national euphoria dies down, but insofar as their ability to voice anything depends on the gatekeepers to the media, who will ignore sane and effective voices in favor of cartoon cutouts of "conservatives" such as Pat Buchanan, it is likely that even should the Republicans find their voice that voice will have great difficulty avoiding being stifled.

re: #1097 Ben Hur

The One's first war crime:

Missiles kill 7 in NW Pakistan

Wow. Firing from 20,000 feet from a plane costing 10s of millions of dollars controlled by remote control by someone sitting in, where is it again? South Carolina or somewhere? Firing at a guy in a $2 mud hut while he's have dinner?

They must have been firing rockets daily for years into the US because that response was insanely disproportionate.

Didn't they have families with them? Who cooked? Who cleaned? Surely civilians.

Does Pakistan border the US? I forgot.

Stop the American genocide against people who were not actively firing a weapon!

It's the return of THE DOUBLE STANDARD.

So, it's back to aspirin factories? Isn't that what lead up to the last 9/11?

1174 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:39:24am

re: #1149 shanec99

I like Ethiopians, nice people (really pretty girls)

Not to get all "objectifying women" r' nuthin', but some of the women just make your jaw hit the floor. (I dated one for a little while, a lovely gal in a Ph.D. program.) It's amazing how such a chronically screwed-up country can turn out such successful emigrants.

And yes, I think the DC Eritreans just aren't too bothered by the Ethiopia/Eritrea distinction.

I love hearing their language, too... sounds like nothing else!

1175 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:39:36am

re: #1164 Wyatt Earp

Allegedly, two "musicians" held up a "F**k Bush" sign at the Ball. I saw it on Yahoo, but don't have the link. I am pretty sure one of those involved is George Clinton.

And so class has left the great capital of the United States, to be replaced by classlessness.

1176 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:08am

re: #1167 BlueCanuck

Hey cool. Did you guys notice that when you click on a link that you can now check the previous and last message by clicking on arrows at the top of the page? When did this come in?

I noticed that yesterday, but I don't think Charles has highlighted that in a post. He may be waiting until he's happy with the code.

1177 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:11am

re: #1151 Occasional Reader

That sound you hear is moonbat heads detonating, from horizon to horizon.


LOL
Yep, Someone should read that at the next 'awards' event.
Grey matter all over those gowns and tuxes.

1178 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:13am

re: #1137 newsjunkie_ky

Richard Gere is curled up in a foetal position and considers his next option ...

1179 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:16am

re: #1082 buzzsawmonkey
Hey buzz - hope you're doing well today! And I don't know the people you know in NYC, but I lived there and worked there for 35 years and my unemployment compensation was never enough to cover even my rent, much less utilities, food, medical care, etc.
They musta increased it a whole lot in the last five years, cause I was living in a teeny studio apartment in the old Hell's Kitchen, too.

1180 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:26am

re: #1158 jcbunga


I was missing the / tag, but I hope you caught my sarcasm.

1181 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:34am

re: #1173 unreconstructed rebel

So, it's back to aspirin factories? Isn't that what lead up to the last 9/11?

Of course not. Without that action, we might have been looking at 9/9.

1182 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:52am

re: #1171 DeafDog

I saw it and had to close my office door because I was laughing so hard I almost started crying.

1183 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:04am

re: #1171 DeafDog

Iowahawk has a funny parody, in case you missed it.

Ashton Kutcher: To ALWAYS represent my country with total fucking pride and dignity and shit, broheim!

Charles said it best - Iowahawk is some kind of damn genius.

1184 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:08am

Go to a tennis match and watch a riot break out?

Instead of talking about how defending champion Djokovic reached the third round with a 6-2, 4-6, 6-3, 7-6 (4) victory packed with drama and good sportsmanship, the 21-year-old Serb and Bosnian-born Delic were mostly quizzed about the chaotic scene that followed -- when their supporters clashed outside near a big-screen TV showing the match.

Police said about 30 Bosnian and Serbian youths were ejected from Melbourne Park. Two men were charged with riotous behavior and a third was fined on the spot. The woman who was knocked out was not seriously injured.

"There's absolutely no place for that here. This is a tennis match," said Delic, who attended the University of Illinois and lives in Jacksonville, Fla. "As I'm sure you all saw at the end, Novak and I are friends. We're both competitors. In the end it was a fair match, and there was no reason for such things."

1185 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:08am

Off to see the wizard the woderful wizard of VA...bunch of frigging munchkins...

1186 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:18am

re: #1148 WriterMom

That Hollyweird I plege thing is so creepy.

How quickly they've gone from "dissent is the highest form of patriotism" to "I pledge to be the President's servant". They seem to have slept through their high school civics class; uh, kids, the President is supposed to serve the American people, not vice-versa.

1187 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:19am

re: #1175 vxbush

And so class has left the great capital of the United States, to be replaced by classlessness.

Obama, their dear leader, is the one that shot a bird at Hillary and McCain. He also makes fun of former first ladies with "seance" jokes.

1188 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:32am

re: #1126 Kosh's Shadow

I don't know how it works in other states, since I never took unemployment in any place I live until I was in my 50's, but In Colorado, your benefits are based on your total salary over 4 quarterly periods.

So, if you get laid off with a 80,000 a year job, you get about 850 a month (at least that was 5 years ago), But, if you take a lower paying job, in an effort to get moving again, this can effect what you will draw in unemployment later.

This encourages people to sit back and not try to get moving again, waiting around for that next 80,000 a year job.

This happened to me, although I didn't wait around, I was more concerned with being self supporting and doing some kind of work, than no work.

I got a job in three months 5 years ago, for about half the 80,000. But 9 months later, that business laid me off, and suddenly, I am now getting about 450 a month in unemployment.

But I still had the almost the same financial obligations. Even though I was smart during those 9 months, and started to try to pay off a lot of the smaller debt, it was still tight.

Because of that, every time I took a contract job (I could only seem to get contract programming work), I would work hardest at paying down debt.

But even now, with my major debt very low, if I was to be laid off by the theatre, my unemployment totals would be about 300 a month, which in no way would even pay my rent, which is VERY low.

While I myself don't like taking any sort of government handouts unless I just have to, the system doesn't really help people like me get through the tight times. And I'm one that doesn't abuse the system.

But it has always seemed to me that the government wants to push you so far down, then you HAVE to depend on them, and they have another aid client for life. I feel that the system is designed to keep the aid agencies in business.

1189 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:33am

re: #1180 DeafDog

I was missing the / tag, but I hope you caught my sarcasm.


absolutely. That hit the spot :)

1190 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:35am

I think I'll take the temporary hound to the park. Chick-magnet. Later squamatans.

1191 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:40am

re: #1143 Alouette

Don't forget to cast your vote for the new Hamas mascot!

I hate Barney, so this Jew would be glad to kill Barney, the Jew Squashing Dinosaur. But he doesn't seem to be doing well.
I hate you
You hate me
Let's hang jooos from a tree

1192 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:44am
1193 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:52am

re: #1174 Occasional Reader

Amharic...sound like music. I met so many Ethiopian Jews in Israel-gorgeous women and the kids are spectacularly cute-o-rama.

1194 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:57am

re: #1175 vxbush

And so class has left the great capital of the United States, to be replaced by classlessness.

Would you expect any less?

1195 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:42:01am

re: #1185 Dustyvet

Off to see the wizard the woderful wizard of VA...bunch of frigging munchkins...

Go get 'em! Bag of crap and jar of honey in hand, I hope.

1196 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:42:17am

re: #1162 yma o hyd

No class, no manners, no style


You nailed it there. This describes the zero perfectly.

1197 Learned Mother of Zion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:42:37am

re: #1146 Jetpilot1101

I voted for Dora the Infidel Whora.

I like Spongebomb Seethepants.

1198 Dustyvet  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:43:44am

re: #1195 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Go get 'em! Bag of crap and jar of honey in hand, I hope.

YUp...and a bag of Dum Dum pops...:)

for the twit from the lolly pop guild...

1199 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:43:46am

re: #1186 Occasional Reader

How quickly they've gone from "dissent is the highest form of patriotism" to "I pledge to be the President's servant". They seem to have slept through their high school civics class; uh, kids, the President is supposed to serve the American people, not vice-versa.

Yes, but don't you understand? They are IMPORTANT! They are CELEBRITIES! They must make a statement!

/I think I hurt my back

1200 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:43:49am

re: #1167 BlueCanuck

Hey cool. Did you guys notice that when you click on a link that you can now check the previous and last message by clicking on arrows at the top of the page? When did this come in?

Nifty, innit?
I noticed it last weekend - but was to shy to ask ...

1201 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:43:58am

re: #1187 faraway

Obama, their dear leader, is the one that shot a bird at Hillary and McCain. He also makes fun of former first ladies with "seance" jokes.

Yup. It all starts at the top.

1202 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:00am

re: #1164 Wyatt Earp

Allegedly, two "musicians" held up a "F**k Bush" sign at the Ball. I saw it on Yahoo, but don't have the link. I am pretty sure one of those involved is George Clinton.

I think it was george himself and it said 'F*ck George'. although now he claims it wasn't aimed at President Bush. A lot of Military that were in attendance left in protest.

1203 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:12am

re: #1138 vxbush

I was out of work for a year. I had compensation from the company for four months, and I decided I would take those four months as my vacation, to figure out my options for where to apply for a job. It still took me eight months to get a job, but I had unemployment kick in at that point.

Can't live on unemployment compensation in Illinois. Anyone know if it has been increased since 1992 when I had the unfortunate need to use it?

1204 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:20am

re: #1197 Alouette

I like Spongebomb Seethepants.

All the names are funny. Maybe it's just sheer morbid curiosity but I really do want to know what the next Hamas mascot will be just so Charles can hopen a thread and we can all get a good laugh.

1205 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:34am

re: #1174 Occasional Reader

Not to get all "objectifying women" r' nuthin', but some of the women just make your jaw hit the floor. (I dated one for a little while, a lovely gal in a Ph.D. program.) It's amazing how such a chronically screwed-up country can turn out such successful emigrants.

And yes, I think the DC Eritreans just aren't too bothered by the Ethiopia/Eritrea distinction.
All the Ethiopians I met in Africa speak English. There is a club in Menelik Square in Djibouti (yes, Djibouti is 98% Muslim and it has clubs where people dance and drink beer) and the Ethiopians hang out there, really friendly people.

I love hearing their language, too... sounds like nothing else!

1206 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:41am
1207 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:54am

re: #1186 Occasional Reader

It's so nauseating. I really feel physically sick saying, reading or hearing "President Obama". I keep wishing it was a joke. This clueless, inexperienced product of the most thuggish elements of Chicago's political corruption, the most liberal voter, the most classless 'leader' with a wife with a PhD in combined Navel Gazing, Affirmative Action and Chip-On-Her-Shoulderness, is now President of America. It is astounding.

1208 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:59am

re: #1160 Jetpilot1101

Oh come on, I'm sure Obama will find a few convenient aspirin or baby formula factories to level. Or he could go the other route and launch million dollar cruise missiles at empty 3 dollar tents.

I'm afraid he'll say how we deserve the attack, and then go looking for scapegoats, like Israel.

1209 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:03am

One mystery was solved today when it was confirmed that New York Gov. David Paterson would appoint Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand to replace Hillary Clinton in the U.S. Senate.

Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand

Legal career

During the Clinton Administration, Gillibrand served as Special Counsel to the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), Andrew Cuomo. She worked on HUD's Labor Initiative and its New Markets Initiative, on strengthening Davis-Bacon Act enforcement and on drafting new markets legislation for public and private investment in building infrastructure in lower income areas.
As an associate at Davis Polk & Wardwell and a partner at Boies, Schiller & Flexner, Gillibrand worked on a wide range of legal and policy-related issues. She represented many pro bono cases, including abused women and their children, and tenants seeking safe housing after lead paint and unsafe conditions were found in their homes.
She was the Chair of the Women's Leadership Forum Network and was on the Boards of the Eleanor Roosevelt Legacy Committee and the Commission on Greenway Heritage Conservancy for the Hudson River Valley. She also served on the Advisory Board for the Brennan Center for Justice.
[edit]U.S. Congressional career

[edit]Issues and positions
Gillibrand is a member of the Blue Dog Coalition.[3] She opposes gun control.[4] She supports extending the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts for middle class families; stem cell research; and the Children's Health and Medicare Protection Act.[5] Gillibrand opposes attempts to partially privatize Social Security.[6] She strongly supported passage of the 2008 Farm Bill.[7] Gillibrand broke with former Governor Eliot Spitzer on the issue of illegal immigration, opposing his plan to issue New York State drivers licenses to illegal immigrants.[8] She supports same-sex marriage.[9]

1210 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:06am

Par for the course.

Obama flashes irritation in press room


President Obama made a surprise visit to the White House press corps Thursday night, but got agitated when he was faced with a substantive question.

"Ahh, see," he said, "I came down here to visit. See this is what happens. I can't end up visiting with you guys and shaking hands if I'm going to get grilled every time I come down here."

Pressed further by the Politico reporter about his Pentagon nominee, William J. Lynn III, Obama turned more serious, putting his hand on the reporter's shoulder and staring him in the eye.

"Alright, come on" he said, with obvious irritation in his voice. "We will be having a press conference at which time you can feel free to [ask] questions. Right now, I just wanted to say hello and introduce myself to you guys - that's all I was trying to do."

Elected to office and still not answering questions. The libs thought Bush was evasive...meet the new transparent leadership. He's still like nailing jello to the wall.

1211 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:07am

re: #1184 lawhawk

"There's absolutely no place for that here. This is a tennis match," said Delic

"... not a soccer match, at which it would be perfectly appropriate."

1212 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:08am

re: #1202 newsjunkie_ky

I think it was george himself and it said 'F*ck George'. although now he claims it wasn't aimed at President Bush. A lot of Military that were in attendance left in protest.

Yeah, he probably held it up to say F himself. Guy is a jackass.

1213 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:17am

re: #1164 Wyatt Earp

Allegedly, two "musicians" held up a "F**k Bush" sign at the Ball. I saw it on Yahoo, but don't have the link. I am pretty sure one of those involved is George Clinton.

Oh thats nice. The Obama people just ooze class.

1214 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:21am

re: #1137 newsjunkie_ky

Non-violence can't tackle terror: Dalai
NEW DELHI: The Dalai Lama, a lifelong champion of non-violence on Saturday candidly stated that terrorism cannot be tackled by applying the
principle of ahimsa because the minds of terrorists are closed.

"It is difficult to deal with terrorism through non-violence," the Tibetan spiritual leader said delivering the Madhavrao Scindia Memorial Lecture here.

He also termed terrorism as the worst kind of violence which is not carried by a few mad people but by those who are very brilliant and educated.

"They (terrorists) are very brilliant and educated...but a strong ill feeling is bred in them. Their minds are closed," the Dalai Lama said.

He said that the only way to tackle terrorism is through prevention. The head of the Tibetan government-in-exile left the audience stunned when he said "I love President George W Bush." He went on to add how he and the US President instantly struck a chord in their first meeting unlike politicians who take a while to develop close ties.
Wonder what richard gere thinks about this?

Sounds like the Dalai Lama understands the Biblical concept of a hardened heart.

1215 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:33am

re: #1200 yma o hyd

I know. Every time Charles improves something, it just makes the whole experience here better.

1216 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:37am
1217 gop_patriot  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:51am

re: #1197 Alouette

I like Spongebomb Seethepants.

Me too! I just went and voted for that one. Did you come up with it? Hilarious.

1218 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:46:01am

re: #1194 Wyatt Earp

Would you expect any less?

Not with Obama in the house.

1219 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:46:08am

re: #1186 Occasional Reader

How quickly they've gone from "dissent is the highest form of patriotism" to "I pledge to be the President's servant". They seem to have slept through their high school civics class; uh, kids, the President is supposed to serve the American people, not vice-versa.

[And just to be clear; I am by no means endorsing the statement "dissent is the highest form of patriotism", either... absolutely vapid.]

1220 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:46:11am

re: #1213 opnion

Oh thats nice. The Obama people just ooze class.

And herpes. Heh.

1221 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:46:14am

re: #1182 WriterMom

I saw it and had to close my office door because I was laughing so hard I almost started crying.

All celebrities chant together:

TOGETHER WE CAN
TOGETHER WE CAN OBEY
DIVIDED WE ARE INSIGNIFICANT
BUT TOGETHER WE CAN BE A MOLECULE
ON OUR PRESIDENT'S CHEEKBONE
FADING AND MELTING AND SHRINKING
INTO THE ONE UNIVERSAL GLORY OF HIM
OBEY
OBEY
OBEY

1222 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:46:50am

I'm out... everyone have a great day!

1223 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:47:09am

re: #1143 Alouette

Don't forget to cast your vote for the new Hamas mascot!

Mustaffa the Muslim Maggot is ahead of Spongebob Seethepants by six.

1224 jill e  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:47:09am
1225 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:47:29am

re: #1192 buzzsawmonkey

I agree with your last sentiment, but I have also known many people who are willing to adjust their lives downwards in order to take full advantage of the "free money." If one is fortunate enough to have one of the apartments still under stabilization (actual rent-controlled apartments are few and decreasing), an artificially-low housing cost can be of material assistance in doing this.

The neighbor I mentioned above--this was many years ago--was living in an illegal sublet of a rent-controlled apartment, so his rent was minuscule even by the standards of New York in the '70s (the woman on the floor below me was rent-controlled, and was paying $75 a month for her Soho apartment. I was paying $200 for a better apartment [mine, unlike hers, actually had the toilet in the apartment], which was a rent-stabilized price).

In my particular case, unemployment is paying exactly minimum wage.
I've certainly set my job search annual salary standards lower, but not quite to $20000 per year.

1226 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:47:43am

re: #1210 jorline

Par for the course.

Obama flashes irritation in press room

Elected to office and still not answering questions. The libs thought Bush was evasive...meet the new transparent leadership. He's still like nailing jello to the wall.

Well, a problem like that is simple. All you do is freeze it first. Simple actually.

/now where did I put that liquid nitrogen. . . .

1227 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:47:46am

re: #1164 Wyatt Earp

Allegedly, two "musicians" held up a "F**k Bush" sign at the Ball. I saw it on Yahoo, but don't have the link. I am pretty sure one of those involved is George Clinton.

Sounds more like an advertisement for the toga party afterwards.

1228 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:47:59am

re: #1197 Alouette

Snackbar Seethepants! Dora the Infidel Whora was a close second in my book...

At the rate of attrition of Hamas cartoon characters,we might be through that entire list in a few weeks.

1229 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:48:27am

I'm re-posting this for all who have joined later and didn't see the link first time round:

[Link: muqata.blogspot.com...]

Please do watch it! Its awesome!

1230 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:48:37am

re: #1202 newsjunkie_ky

I think it was george himself and it said 'F*ck George'. although now he claims it wasn't aimed at President Bush. A lot of Military that were in attendance left in protest.

It wasn't directed at Bush? Was he (George Clinton) directing it at himself?

1231 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:48:37am

re: #1210 jorline

Par for the course.

Obama flashes irritation in press room

Elected to office and still not answering questions. The libs thought Bush was evasive...meet the new transparent leadership. He's still like nailing jello to the wall.

Hey Mr Obama - let the man do his JOB, so he doesn't get laid off.

1232 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:48:58am

re: #1137 newsjunkie_ky

Wonder what richard gere thinks about this?

He's busy at the moment...something about a gerbil...

1233 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:49:13am

re: #1188 Walter L. Newton

The amount of unemployment depends on the income over the previous 6 months, and yes, the extra money I made reduced the payments, but extended the time I got them. (Basically, they figured out how much I could get based on the weekly amount and the benefit period, and that was how much I could get, even if it took longer to pay it)
Since it was my daughter's senior year in college, I didn't have much savings left that was accessible without a tax penalty.

1234 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:49:16am

re: #1188 Walter L. Newton

Walter, unemployment is not a government handout.

It is insurance paid for by your employer on your behalf. It is based on a percent of your pay.

Unemployment is not welfare. It's your money.

1235 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:49:21am

re: #1232 Macker

He's busy at the moment...something about a gerbil...

At least it's not a hamster or a guinea pig.

1236 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:49:32am

re: #1183 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Charles said it best - Iowahawk is some kind of damn genius.

I thought it was "some kind of deviated prevert"?

1237 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:49:35am

re: #1226 BlueCanuck

Well, a problem like that is simple. All you do is freeze it first. Simple actually.

/now where did I put that liquid nitrogen. . . .

After we freeze the jello, then we can make instant ice cream!

1238 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:49:51am

re: #1224 jill e

Obama's first call abroad to Mahmoud Abbas.

"Hey Abu! What do you say we go get some pick-a-nic baskets?"

1239 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:50:03am

re: #1087 vxbushLOL! Well it's hard for me to set up an LGF meet up since I have no transportation available to go anywhere! Plus of course there is the question of timing for me too - timing of my meds, I mean.
There has been one Lizard who's become a good friend who lives maybe 10 miles away who's come over to take mom and me shopping (cab fare is driving us to the poor house) a few times and she's very understanding of our situation, BUT FOR ALL THAT I'd a organized one by now!
They are GREAT FUN - and most folks are just exactly as they appear to be here: friendly, intelligent and love to discuss, argue debate politics and the like!

1241 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:50:40am

re: #1224 jill e

Obama's first call abroad to Mahmoud Abbas.

"To the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect,"

I'm not sure how one goes about that unilaterally. Maybe Shrillary has a plan.

1242 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:50:50am

re: #1213 opnion

Oh thats nice. The Obama people just ooze class.

That's how they roll.

1243 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:51:09am

re: #1234 faraway

Walter, unemployment is not a government handout.

It is insurance paid for by your employer on your behalf. It is based on a percent of your pay.

Unemployment is not welfare. It's your money.

His money, but with a huge chunk taken out by the middle man - GOvernment. It's a protection racket.

1244 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:51:26am

re: #1210 jorline

Par for the course.

Obama flashes irritation in press room

Elected to office and still not answering questions. The libs thought Bush was evasive...meet the new transparent leadership. He's still like nailing jello to the wall.

Was he eating a waffle at the time?

1245 jill e  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:51:43am

Heh! From Small Dead Animals:

"And to think that Caroline Kennedy was in line for a mere Senate seat when she had the qualifications to be Treasury Secretary."

1246 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:51:46am
1247 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:52:11am

re: #1244 Kosh's Shadow

Was he eating a waffle at the time?

I guess the charm offensive is over.

1248 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:52:15am

re: #1239 realwest

LOL! Well it's hard for me to set up an LGF meet up since I have no transportation available to go anywhere! Plus of course there is the question of timing for me too - timing of my meds, I mean.
There has been one Lizard who's become a good friend who lives maybe 10 miles away who's come over to take mom and me shopping (cab fare is driving us to the poor house) a few times and she's very understanding of our situation, BUT FOR ALL THAT I'd a organized one by now!
They are GREAT FUN - and most folks are just exactly as they appear to be here: friendly, intelligent and love to discuss, argue debate politics and the like!

Man I wish lived closer to more lizards; sounds like you could use some extra help every now and then.

1249 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:52:27am

re: #1210 jorline

Par for the course.

Obama flashes irritation in press room


Elected to office and still not answering questions. The libs thought Bush was evasive...meet the new transparent leadership. He's still like nailing jello to the wall.

Like I said earlier, just wait till Obama's inner Mayor Chucky comes out. Obama will get pissy with the press just as one of his mentors, Mayor Richard M. Daley does. When pissed off in front of the cameras, Daley resembles that doll from Child's Play. I suspect Obama may likewise.

1250 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:52:27am

re: #1210 jorline

Yep - like nailing jello to the wall - and getting irritated the moment someone does not back down, swoon and say three 'Hail Obama'!

I wonder if that particular reporter will ever get the chance to ask him a question during official press conferences - and if the other reporters are going to cotton on to that.

Hiya {jorline}! How are you today?

1251 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:52:28am

re: #1155 Spenser (with an S)

Just sent this to a moonbat on my denomination's "social justice" blog-

I couldn't have said any of that better. Except I might have put in something about Margaret Sanger and eugenics.

1252 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:52:29am

re: #1241 unreconstructed rebel

"To the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect,"
I'm not sure how one goes about that unilaterally.

Suicide.

1253 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:52:36am

re: #1224 jill e

Obama's first call abroad to Mahmoud Abbas.

We know who's important.

1254 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:53:02am

re: #1210 jorline

Par for the course.

Obama flashes irritation in press room


Elected to office and still not answering questions. The libs thought Bush was evasive...meet the new transparent leadership. He's still like nailing jello to the wall.

Squirm like the fucking worm that you are.

1255 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:53:03am

re: #1192 buzzsawmonkey

I agree with your last sentiment, but I have also known many people who are willing to adjust their lives downwards in order to take full advantage of the "free money." If one is fortunate enough to have one of the apartments still under stabilization (actual rent-controlled apartments are few and decreasing), an artificially-low housing cost can be of material assistance in doing this.

The neighbor I mentioned above--this was many years ago--was living in an illegal sublet of a rent-controlled apartment, so his rent was minuscule even by the standards of New York in the '70s (the woman on the floor below me was rent-controlled, and was paying $75 a month for her Soho apartment. I was paying $200 for a better apartment [mine, unlike hers, actually had the toilet in the apartment], which was a rent-stabilized price).


BTW - Obama's 'make work pay' plan is more dangerous than extending unemployment benefits.

Under this plan, which he calls a tax cut, low earners will get an income tax "refund" even though they pay no income tax. As their earned income increases, the tax 'refund' phases out.

So folks will actually have less incentive to be more productive...that's nucking futs!

1256 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:53:12am

re: #1186 Occasional Reader

How quickly they've gone from "dissent is the highest form of patriotism" to "I pledge to be the President's servant". They seem to have slept through their high school civics class; uh, kids, the President is supposed to serve the American people, not vice-versa.

They were stoned in civics class.

1257 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:53:15am

re: #1226 BlueCanuck

Well, a problem like that is simple. All you do is freeze it first. Simple actually.

/now where did I put that liquid nitrogen. . . .

Anyone on the right in the press will be cut off.

Good to see you Blue.

1258 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:53:39am

Well Lizards, time to go. It's been fun as always.

See you all tonight.

1259 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:53:54am

re: #1153 marge45b

I count the days 'till we have another attack. And Obama's going to act like Clinton did when the USS Cole got attacked. NOTHING! NOT! ZIP! I'm telling ya' it ain't going to be pretty.

Ever since 9/11 it has been a question of when, not if.
I do not think anyone really believes that the US was safe until Jan. 20th and that now it is suddenly vulnerable.

I doubt that Obama has removed a major deterrent to terror by announcing closure of Guantanamo Bay - especially if he sees the terrorists brought to justice in some other way.

Let's see if he steps up the Afghanistan operation and gets serious with al Qaeda by reading Pakistan the riot act, as he promised during the campaign. If he does, then the Guantanamo closure may not look so bad in hindsight.

1260 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:53:55am

re: #1240 MandyManners

Sounds like a Democrat I might be able to vote for.

One the articles I read stated that she was from a heavily Republican district.
NRA endorsed her, she was opposed to TARP, I can believe that.

1261 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:54:31am

re: #1233 Kosh's Shadow

thank you for the information yesterday on GIMP, the son is happy with it, so I am happy too.

1262 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:54:59am
1263 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:55:00am

According to a Lou Dobbs & a panel yesterday, the Mexican government lobbied the U.S government (President Bush) very hard to keep our Border Agents , Ramos & Campeon in jail.
They voiced displeasure that their sentences were commuted.

1264 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:55:27am

re: #1246 Iron Fist

So that's why Demo☭rats have huge a**holes!

1265 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:55:37am

re: #1169 Kenneth

...there will be no point in capturing any of them alive in future.

I think I can live with that./

1266 rawmuse  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:56:09am

re: #1263 opnion

Mexico still has a government? Who knew?

1267 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:56:11am

re: #1244 Kosh's Shadow

Was he eating a waffle at the time?

Morning, Kosh...I believe it was ice cream and served in a waffle cone...late night snack.

1268 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:56:25am
1269 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:56:26am

re: #1262 buzzsawmonkey

And the offensive charm begins.

And he compares himself to JFK, our first Irish Catholic President. That man truly had Lucky Charms.

1270 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:56:27am

re: #1230 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It wasn't directed at Bush? Was he (George Clinton) directing it at himself?

I assumed the "F*ck Bush" sign was showing a preference. It would've been more telling if he had one that said "F*ck Shaved".

1271 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:56:31am

re: #1259 Spare O'Lake

Ever since 9/11 it has been a question of when, not if.
I do not think anyone really believes that the US was safe until Jan. 20th and that now it is suddenly vulnerable.

I doubt that Obama has removed a major deterrent to terror by announcing closure of Guantanamo Bay - especially if he sees the terrorists brought to justice in some other way.

Let's see if he steps up the Afghanistan operation and gets serious with al Qaeda by reading Pakistan the riot act, as he promised during the campaign. If he does, then the Guantanamo closure may not look so bad in hindsight.

The thing is, it will take a while for the terrorists to get organized enough to make a hit on the US. Let's say it takes two years. Obama can and will claim, during those two years, that everything he's doing is making us more popular and less of a target to the terrorists. And the liberals will believe, while the moderates will say, "Well, he seems right. Nothing has happened since he got into office."

1272 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:56:49am

re: #1206 Iron Fist

I don't fault McCain for the campaign he ran.

McCain's post-campaign man-love for Obama, however, has to stop. That's not being the 'loyal opposition.'

1273 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:56:56am

re: #1256 Ward Cleaver

They were stoned in civics class.

They were stoned behind the gym during civics class.

1274 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:57:23am

re: #1251 Ward Cleaver


re: #1155 Spenser (with an S)

Just sent this to a moonbat on my denomination's "social justice" blog-

I couldn't have said any of that better. Except I might have put in something about Margaret Sanger and eugenics.

Thank you, sir. I have mentioned the connection there to him in the past, but now that Hopenchange is here for real, I may remind him.

1275 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:57:32am

re: #1249 Honorary Yooper

Like I said earlier, just wait till Obama's inner Mayor Chucky comes out. Obama will get pissy with the press just as one of his mentors, Mayor Richard M. Daley does. When pissed off in front of the cameras, Daley resembles that doll from Child's Play. I suspect Obama may likewise.

I look forward to watching the meltdown.

1276 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:58:34am

re: #1261 Stonemason

thank you for the information yesterday on GIMP, the son is happy with it, so I am happy too.

"Bring out the gimp." - Zed, Pulp Fiction

1277 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:58:42am

re: #1254 MandyManners

Squirm like the fucking worm that you are.

He will have a hissy fit melt down. It's just a matter of time.

1278 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:58:46am

Any icon above #897 is greyed out and I can't upding or heart any of them. Does anyone know why that would be?

1279 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:58:53am

re: #1118 Spenser (with an S) well you certainly could be right; but since the advent of the "pill" (yes, I AM that old) it has been women clamoring for abortion rights, not men, IN MY EXPERIENCE.
Indeed, some of us men have been involved with - as in married - to women who, when discovered they were pregnant, got the abortion and then told the husband about the pregnancy and abortion.
Course all of this happened over a 38 year period when I lived in uber liberal areas, like Ivy League law schools and in Manhattan, NYC so I could have a skewed view of the situation.

1280 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:58:57am

re: #1275 jorline

I look forward to watching the meltdown.

I wonder when the stammering starts?

1281 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:59:19am
1282 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:59:47am

re: #1209 jcm

One mystery was solved today when it was confirmed that New York Gov. David Paterson would appoint Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand to replace Hillary Clinton in the U.S. Senate.

Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand

In case you were trying to understand the reasoning, it's like this:

Obama's seat is a 'black' and should only be filled by an African-American.

Hillary's seat is a 'Blonde' Woman seat.

{We should have lobbied harder for Megyn Kelly.}

1283 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:59:50am

re: #1254 MandyManners

Squirm like the fucking worm that you are.

Narcissism does not appreciate accountability.

1284 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:00:17am

re: #1278 DistantThunder

Any icon above #897 is greyed out and I can't upding or heart any of them. Does anyone know why that would be?

Did you log in on this thread, or on the main page? If you log on to this page, only those comments that appear after you logged in will allow you to vote. If you want to upding earlier comments, reload the page.

1285 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:00:22am

re: #1257 jorline

You mean there are people on the right in the White House press office?

Good to see you too.

/actually on a day schedule for once. :p

1286 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:00:33am

re: #1281 buzzsawmonkey

And the questioner will be held to be at fault.

You made the Messiah cry! You bastard!

1287 VegasRick  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:00:42am

re: #1276 Wyatt Earp

"Bring out the gimp." - Zed, Pulp Fiction

"Lets go out there and WIN ONE for the Gimper!"
/

1288 vapig  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:00:49am

re: #1143 Alouette

Don't forget to cast your vote for the new Hamas mascot!

Just cast my vote for Mustafa the Muslim Maggot!

1289 gop_patriot  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:00:49am

re: #1278 DistantThunder

Any icon above #897 is greyed out and I can't upding or heart any of them. Does anyone know why that would be?

I believe that would be where you logged in. Anything before the login point would be greyed out still until you refreshed.

1290 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:01:02am

re: #1277 opnion

He will have a hissy fit melt down. It's just a matter of time.

State of the Union. Glaring across the aisle...
"HOW DARE YOU NOT APPLAUD ME!"

1291 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:01:11am

re: #1263 opnion

According to a Lou Dobbs & a panel yesterday, the Mexican government lobbied the U.S government (President Bush) very hard to keep our Border Agents , Ramos & Campeon in jail.
They voiced displeasure that their sentences were commuted.

Don't forget, the NY Times is partially owned by the Lebanese-Mexican Carlos Slim.

1292 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:01:16am

re: #1269 Occasional Reader

And he compares himself to JFK, our first Irish Catholic President. That man truly had Lucky Charms.

Yep, charms of pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars, green clovers, and blue diamonds.

1293 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:01:38am

re: #1280 unreconstructed rebel

I wonder when the stammering starts?

Right before he flicks a cigarette butt at a reporter.

1294 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:01:42am

re: #1250 yma o hyd

Yep - like nailing jello to the wall - and getting irritated the moment someone does not back down, swoon and say three 'Hail Obama'!

I wonder if that particular reporter will ever get the chance to ask him a question during official press conferences - and if the other reporters are going to cotton on to that.

Hiya {jorline}! How are you today?

{yma}

I'm well, thank you. I hope all is well with you.

We now have Fox and Politico cut off...MSNBC just picked up two new seats in the press corp.

1295 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:01:54am

re: #1279 realwest

well you certainly could be right; but since the advent of the "pill" (yes, I AM that old) it has been women clamoring for abortion rights, not men, IN MY EXPERIENCE.
Indeed, some of us men have been involved with - as in married - to women who, when discovered they were pregnant, got the abortion and then told the husband about the pregnancy and abortion.
Course all of this happened over a 38 year period when I lived in uber liberal areas, like Ivy League law schools and in Manhattan, NYC so I could have a skewed view of the situation.

There is a huge problem with coerced abortions by boyfriends, abusers, and even husbands. Not to mention mothers and fathers of the expecting daughter. This even happened when my mother was pregnant with me and abortion wasn't legal. My grandfather who was a policeman put his foot down, and said: "We're not having any of that," and welcomed my mother to the family.

1296 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:02am

re: #1278 DistantThunder

Any icon above #897 is greyed out and I can't upding or heart any of them. Does anyone know why that would be?

Might be when you logged in. When in doubt, reload the page.

1297 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:03am

re: #1278 DistantThunder

Any icon above #897 is greyed out and I can't upding or heart any of them. Does anyone know why that would be?

refresh

1298 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:08am

re: #1275 jorline

I look forward to watching the meltdown.

Have you ever seen a narcissist have a fit when his ego is wounded? It is terrifying.

1299 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:11am

re: #1281 buzzsawmonkey

And the questioner will be held to be at fault.

Oh, come now... you think that someone will suffer relentless media harassment, just because he asks Obama an uncomfortable question? Why, that could never happen in a million years!

1300 Mayor of Shadyville  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:14am

Has anyone seen the AOL article this morning top 10 living geniuses?

It has George Soros as 3rd!?!

I delved further into it and lo and behold there is a tie at 43.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

1301 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:19am

re: #1294 jorline

{yma}

I'm well, thank you. I hope all is well with you.

We now have Fox and Politico cut off...MSNBC just picked up two new seats in the press corp.

Is Fox not in the press room when the press secretary is present during daily briefings? I thought they still had a chair there.

1302 turn  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:27am

Morning all.

Been away from the computer for a few days now and now have a little time this morning.

Oh great, I see a former Gitmo detainee Al-Shihri has returned to Yemen and is now al-Qaida's No. 2 man there. I'll have to go check out dKos and Huffpo in a bit to find out just exactly why this development is Bush's fault.

Hey, the AP article I just read didn't mention why the f#$%^r was released in the first place. Anybody know off hand why?

1303 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:28am

re: #1284 vxbush

Did you log in on this thread, or on the main page? If you log on to this page, only those comments that appear after you logged in will allow you to vote. If you want to upding earlier comments, reload the page.

Is that new?

1304 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:37am

re: #1283 DistantThunder

Narcissism does not appreciate accountability.

Onanism does not appreciate exposure.

1305 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:03:07am

Obama flashes irritation in press room
Asked how he could reconcile a strict ban on lobbyists in his administration with a Deputy Defense Secretary nominee who lobbied for Raytheon, Obama interrupted with a knowing smile on his face.

"Ahh, see," he said, "I came down here to visit. See this is what happens. I can't end up visiting with you guys and shaking hands if I'm going to get grilled every time I come down here."

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Good Lord,,, 4 long years until we have adults back in charge!

THE most powerful office in the world now is occupied by a man that doesn't expect to be asked QUESTIONS in a PRESS ROOM filled with JOURNALISTS!

1306 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:03:13am

"Bush was a dictator," he thought as he watched Pres Obama sign 6 executive orders his first day in office.

1307 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:03:17am

re: #1282 DeafDog

Hillary's seat is a 'Blonde' Woman seat.

{We should have lobbied harder for Megyn Kelly.}

Pamela Anderson! I think she'd make a great Senator.

1308 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:03:23am

re: #1230 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It wasn't directed at Bush? Was he (George Clinton) directing it at himself?


That's what he is claiming now. a$$h0le

1309 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:03:26am

re: #1282 DeafDog

In case you were trying to understand the reasoning, it's like this:

Obama's seat is a 'black' and should only be filled by an African-American.

Hillary's seat is a 'Blonde' Woman seat.

{We should have lobbied harder for Megyn Kelly.}

Byrd's seat is the "sheet seat?"

1310 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:03:36am

re: #1291 faraway

Don't forget, the NY Times is partially owned by the Lebanese-Mexican Carlos Slim.

This should keep them impartial during the amnesty fight that's brewing again/sarc

1311 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:03:40am
1312 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:03:42am

re: #1280 unreconstructed rebel

I wonder when the stammering starts?

Always when the monitors aren't present.

1313 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:04:19am

re: #1305 sattv4u2

THE most powerful office in the world now is occupied by a man that doesn't expect to be asked QUESTIONS in a PRESS ROOM filled with JOURNALISTS!

What dream world have you been living in? The Messiah has never been questioned.

/

1314 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:04:52am

re: #1306 Ben Hur

"Bush was a dictator," he thought as he watched Pres Obama sign 6 executive orders his first day in office.

AND from my 1305 doeasn;t want to be questioned about them or anything else!

1315 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:04:53am

re: #1206 Iron Fist

You are probably correct. I did my part to try to keep the son of a bitch out of power, but it wasn't enough. It's not like McCain fought tooth and nail, give no quarter for the Position, though. He was more concerned about appearing to be "bipartisan" than winning the Presidency.

My bet is that the fucker will wind up being Obama's prison bitch staunchest supporter in the weeks and months ahead. The Democrats didn't need to get 60 votes to be filibuster-proof. There are enough RINOs in the Seenate to invoke cloture pretty much whenever they want too. The test will be Eric Holder. If he saild through confirmation, then the Republicans aren't going to mount any serious opposition to Obama on much of anything.

if the GoP does not start to put up a decent track record starting now the party will be lost to the moderate libs...RINO will actually be the party...it's not good enough just to have an option besides the donks...conservatives want some meat on the bone...

1316 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:04:55am

re: #1277 opnion

He will have a hissy fit melt down. It's just a matter of time.

I withstood The Kid's tantrums but, he didn't have the kind of power that a president has.

1317 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:04:57am

How many Executive Orders will Obama sign before he signs a bill from Congress?

1318 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:04:58am

re: #1164 Wyatt Earp
Yeah, strory I read said the sign said "FUCK GEORGE" and quite a number of Vets (this was at the Red White and Blue ball for veterans) walked out - I think the band was Funkadelic and they tried to explain the sign by sayng they meant the leader of the group George
Clinton.
Just some more low class mofo's.

1319 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:05:06am

re: #1277 opnion

He will have a hissy fit melt down. It's just a matter of time.

At this rate it shouldn't be too long before the press corps starts to turn on him.
*hoping*

1320 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:05:15am

re: #1305 sattv4u2

Obama flashes irritation in press room
Asked how he could reconcile a strict ban on lobbyists in his administration with a Deputy Defense Secretary nominee who lobbied for Raytheon, Obama interrupted with a knowing smile on his face.

"Ahh, see," he said, "I came down here to visit. See this is what happens. I can't end up visiting with you guys and shaking hands if I'm going to get grilled every time I come down here."

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Good Lord,,, 4 long years until we have adults back in charge!

THE most powerful office in the world now is occupied by a man that doesn't expect to be asked QUESTIONS in a PRESS ROOM filled with JOURNALISTS!

To be fair, I wouldn't have expected it either, given the fawning & adulation that the "journalists" have displayed to Obama.

1321 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:05:17am

re: #1300 Mayor of Shadyville

A list that has Matt Groening in the top 10, isn't a list at all.

1322 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:05:26am

re: #1294 jorline

{yma}

I'm well, thank you. I hope all is well with you.

We now have Fox and Politico cut off...MSNBC just picked up two new seats in the press corp.

Heh.
Thats the New Transparency.
Looks like he's on the way to the 'Court of the Red Tsar' ...

Things are fine here - sunshine and cold during the day, deluges during the night ... Madame Dog no likey going out in the deluge :-))

1323 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:05:28am

re: #1281 buzzsawmonkey

And the questioner will be held to be at fault.

I see you've watched Mayor Daley at a press conference. I doubt President Obama will be dissimilar.

1324 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:05:31am

re: #1305 sattv4u2

Obama flashes irritation in press room
Asked how he could reconcile a strict ban on lobbyists in his administration with a Deputy Defense Secretary nominee who lobbied for Raytheon, Obama interrupted with a knowing smile on his face.

"Ahh, see," he said, "I came down here to visit. See this is what happens. I can't end up visiting with you guys and shaking hands if I'm going to get grilled every time I come down here."

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Good Lord,,, 4 long years until we have adults back in charge!

THE most powerful office in the world now is occupied by a man that doesn't expect to be asked QUESTIONS in a PRESS ROOM filled with JOURNALISTS!

Of course not. The MSM are fawning toadies to the 0ne; they're supposed to be bowing down and kissing his ass. That's what they did the entire campaign. Plus singing praises, hailing our new messiah, etc.
Why should he expect to be questioned?

1325 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:05:36am

re: #1293 Ward Cleaver

Right before he flicks a cigarette butt at a reporter.

Now that was funny...ding

1326 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:05:44am

re: #1318 realwest

Yeah, strory I read said the sign said "FUCK GEORGE" and quite a number of Vets (this was at the Red White and Blue ball for veterans) walked out - I think the band was Funkadelic and they tried to explain the sign by sayng they meant the leader of the group George
Clinton.
Just some more low class mofo's.

Lots of low class behavior in the last 3 days.

1327 turn  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:06:02am

re: #1300 Mayor of Shadyville

Has anyone seen the AOL article this morning top 10 living geniuses?

It has George Soros as 3rd!?!

I delved further into it and lo and behold there is a tie at 43.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Ha, the No 1 pick discovered LSD.

1328 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:06:05am

re: #1303 DistantThunder

Is that new?

Might be. Charles updated his script (JQuery), and it could be a browser/OS dependent "feature" that happened.

You might try repeating the process. I've noted that I used to "automatically log in", but lately I have to log in manually. That could be anything.

1329 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:06:06am

re: #1283 DistantThunder

Narcissism does not appreciate accountability.

YOU DOUBT THE AWESOMENESS OF MY BEING, YOU MAGGOT?!

1330 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:06:29am

re: #1300 Mayor of Shadyville

Has anyone seen the AOL article this morning top 10 living geniuses?

It has George Soros as 3rd!?!

I delved further into it and lo and behold there is a tie at 43.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Wow. Their idea of "genius" is certainly quite different from mine.

1331 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:06:40am

re: #1307 Occasional Reader

Pamela Anderson! I think she'd make a great Senator.

She has about as much qualification as Caroline Kennedy did.

1332 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:07:26am

re: #1303 DistantThunder

Is that new?

I think it's been in place since a few weeks after Charles moved everything over to AJAX. It actually makes more sense that way.

1333 VegasRick  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:07:41am

re: #1309 jcm

Byrd's seat is the "sheet seat?"

moldy seat.

1334 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:07:51am

re: #1326 DistantThunder

Lots of low class behavior in the last 3 days.

It'll keep up for the next 4 years

1335 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:08:27am

re: #1329 MandyManners

YOU DOUBT THE AWESOMENESS OF MY BEING, YOU MAGGOT?!

Just wait until the pressure builds up for him to make real decisions, and take on real responsibility - the ability to respond. As the pressure builds and he is less fawning over his amazonian wife, I'll be she will be one angry she-man. I predeict major upheaval in the Obama family.

1336 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:08:28am

re: #1331 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

She has about as much qualification as Caroline Kennedy did.

MORE ,, she prolly paid the taxes for her nanny!

1337 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:08:32am

re: #1188 Walter L. Newton
Well

But it has always seemed to me that the government wants to push you so far down, then you HAVE to depend on them, and they have another aid client for life. I feel that the system is designed to keep the aid agencies in business.

that was spot on! They are supposed to HELP you find work; never knew anyone that they actually did help to find work.

1338 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:08:33am

re: #1318 realwest

Really? I was going to go see P-Funk next month, but I think I'll pass.

1339 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:08:42am

re: #1137 newsjunkie_ky

Non-violence can't tackle terror: Dalai
NEW DELHI: The Dalai Lama, a lifelong champion of non-violence on Saturday candidly stated that terrorism cannot be tackled by applying the
principle of ahimsa because the minds of terrorists are closed.

"It is difficult to deal with terrorism through non-violence," the Tibetan spiritual leader said delivering the Madhavrao Scindia Memorial Lecture here.

He also termed terrorism as the worst kind of violence which is not carried by a few mad people but by those who are very brilliant and educated.

"They (terrorists) are very brilliant and educated...but a strong ill feeling is bred in them. Their minds are closed," the Dalai Lama said.

He said that the only way to tackle terrorism is through prevention. The head of the Tibetan government-in-exile left the audience stunned when he said "I love President George W Bush." He went on to add how he and the US President instantly struck a chord in their first meeting unlike politicians who take a while to develop close ties.
Wonder what richard gere thinks about this?

well, i don't think he will enlighten these fools. they picked him because they thought his beliefs would reinforce their own .
now, he talks sense and they will distance themselves from him.
they will have to. he has knocked their feet out from under them.
i admire the dalai lama. i always got a positive feeling from him.
imagine the courage he has to buck the rich foolish hollywood left and all the power and money they represent.
the dalai lama has chosen the right path.
this is so encouraging.

1340 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:08:45am

re: #1317 Who Watches the Watchmen?

How many Executive Orders will Obama sign before he signs a bill from Congress?

At the Gitmo presser he wasn't sure how many he signed, he had to ask an aid if disposition of the detainees was a separate EO from the closing order.

He may be signing shit put in front him...
Who's in charge?

1341 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:08:53am
1342 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:08:57am

re: #1330 vxbush

Yeah, some of them I would agree with. Half of them don't even belong near a genius.

1343 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:09:05am

re: #1317 Who Watches the Watchmen?

How many Executive Orders will Obama sign before he signs a bill from Congress?

Six hundred?
Six for each of the first hundred days in office ...

1344 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:09:12am

re: #1321 BlueCanuck

A list that has Matt Groening in the top 10, isn't a list at all.

I would quadruple upding you, if I could.

1345 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:09:19am

re: #1298 MandyManners

Have you ever seen a narcissist have a fit when his ego is wounded? It is terrifying.

Does it look like this?

1346 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:09:41am

re: #1309 jcm

Byrd's seat is the "sheet seat?"

Hah! That or the 'chin-less' seat.

1347 J.S.  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:09:57am

re: #1272 DeafDog

McCain was on Larry King last night (CNN Headline News plays clips), and McCain very, wery, wery, and warily (cautiously) offered the opinion that maybe, just maybe closing Gitmo wasn't such a good idea. And the reason, according to the cautious (and ever fearful of offending Obama) McCain, closing Gitmo might not be good -- it's due to "nimbies" ("the not in my backyard" folks) -- yeah, blame Americans. I'm sure that that will go over well and win plaudits with Obama. Blame Americans for not wanting al-Qaeda terrorists housed in a local prison? (how pathetic McCain is.) There was another critic, btw, who's noted that a former Gitmo detainee who was released (yeah, that's probably thanks to the screaming Leftist lawyers who love terrorists) is now back to heading up an al-qaeda cell in Yemen.

1348 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:10:05am

re: #1335 DistantThunder

Just wait until the pressure builds up for him to make real decisions, and take on real responsibility - the ability to respond. As the pressure builds and he is less fawning over his amazonian wife, I'll be she will be one angry she-man. I predeict major upheaval in the Obama family.

I wonder how large a hole a waffle-iron makes when hurled at a wall.

1349 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:10:08am

re: #1327 turn

Ha, the No 1 pick discovered LSD.

Heh...I know a physicist who will be very upset he isn't on the list.

1350 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:10:20am

re: #1340 jcm

He may be signing shit put in front him...

"Look at me, I'm the President! I'm all signing stuff and whatnot at a big desk!"

1351 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:10:24am

re: #1330 vxbush

Genius? Genocidal madman make the list, but Nobel laureates Paul Krugman and Al Gore don't make the list? Shocking.

You're right. Their idea of who is a genius and who isn't is just plain nuts.

1352 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:10:33am

re: #1340 jcm

At the Gitmo presser he wasn't sure how many he signed, he had to ask an aid if disposition of the detainees was a separate EO from the closing order.

He may be signing shit put in front him...
Who's in charge?

I think Rahm Emanuel puts them in front of Obama to sign.

1353 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:10:56am

re: #1301 vxbush

Is Fox not in the press room when the press secretary is present during daily briefings? I thought they still had a chair there.

They do, but will they ever be able to ask a question?

Proverbial bump on a log.

1354 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:10:58am

I heard he's put off rescinding the Meixco order that would have restored funding for abortions overseas. Something's up and he's starting to feel the pressure because he is an appeaser at heart - and shrinks from conflict.

1355 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:11:21am

re: #1331 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

She has about as much qualification as Caroline Kennedy did.

But, she has big tits.

1356 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:11:23am

re: #1348 MandyManners

I wonder how large a hole a waffle-iron makes when hurled at a wall.

Depends on the wall, and the person throwing it.

1357 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:11:46am

re: #1350 Occasional Reader

"Look at me, I'm the President! I'm all signing stuff and whatnot at a big desk!"

That is the most frightening thing in my life time...

1358 turn  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:11:54am

re: #1347 J.S.

Hey J.S. do you know why the former detainee was released from Gitmo in the first place?

1359 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:10am

re: #1352 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I think Rahm Emanuel puts them in front of Obama to sign.

Have you noticed that Emanuel always has a shit eating grin on his face?

1360 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:11am

re: #1322 yma o hyd

Heh.
Thats the New Transparency.
Looks like he's on the way to the 'Court of the Red Tsar' ...

Things are fine here - sunshine and cold during the day, deluges during the night ... Madame Dog no likey going out in the deluge :-))

Stay warm and dry.

1361 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:13am

re: #1347 J.S.

McCain was on Larry King last night (CNN Headline News plays clips), and McCain very, wery, wery, and warily (cautiously) offered the opinion that maybe, just maybe closing Gitmo wasn't such a good idea. And the reason, according to the cautious (and ever fearful of offending Obama) McCain, closing Gitmo might not be good -- it's due to "nimbies" ("the not in my backyard" folks) -- yeah, blame Americans. I'm sure that that will go over well and win plaudits with Obama. Blame Americans for not wanting al-Qaeda terrorists housed in a local prison? (how pathetic McCain is.) There was another critic, btw, who's noted that a former Gitmo detainee who was released (yeah, that's probably thanks to the screaming Leftist lawyers who love terrorists) is now back to heading up an al-qaeda cell in Yemen.

I think it will make a great campaign commerical - President Obama brought terrorists to your state. Now they are an ongoing threat to our security.

1362 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:16am

re: #1335 DistantThunder

Just wait until the pressure builds up for him to make real decisions, and take on real responsibility - the ability to respond. As the pressure builds and he is less fawning over his amazonian wife, I'll be she will be one angry she-man. I predeict major upheaval in the Obama family.

ooo...what fun!...pampered minority president's wife out of control...coupla spoiled neophytes spatting over the power split while the world burns!...what a ...riot!

1363 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:16am

re: #1337 realwest

Well

that was spot on! They are supposed to HELP you find work; never knew anyone that they actually did help to find work.

When I was out of work, I went to the one of the state's job centers for their help. To do that, I had to sit through a seminar on various job hunting topics. I did get to help the presenter learn how to go backwards through a PowerPoint slideshow, but that didn't help me get a position.

Then they took the class to show how us how to look up jobs on the state's database. I volunteered; the trainer asked me what I did. When I said "software engineer", he asked for someone else, because he wouldn't find anything for me.

Where I am now seems secure enough; it is still somewhat of a startup but has relationships with some big companies, that you don't want to disappoint, so the money should keep coming.

1364 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:17am

re: #1268 ploome hineni

hey, they had an english translation of the interview he gave in German. Filthy commie website it is.

1365 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:25am
1366 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:28am

re: #1355 MandyManners

But, she has big tits.

She's a fake blond.

1367 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:47am

re: #1331 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

She has about as much qualification as Caroline Kennedy did.

As a matter of birth, Pamela's 'qualifcations' were greater. Of course, her 'qualifactions' has since been enhanced.

1368 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:49am
1369 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:54am

re: #1353 jorline

They do, but will they ever be able to ask a question?

Proverbial bump on a log.

Eh, you may be right about that. Obama gets to choose who he will answer.

1370 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:07am

re: #1345 jorline

Does it look like this?

Maybe but, I ducked and ran so I didn't see much. Left quite a mess.

1371 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:08am

re: #1355 MandyManners

But, she has big tits.

Really? I hadn't noticed.

1372 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:11am

re: #1359 Nevergiveup

Have you noticed that Emanuel always has a shit eating grin on his face?

It's because he doesn't pay property taxes because he has made himself and his wife a charity - they are the only two donors.

1373 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:32am

Morning jorline - please check your email.

1374 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:34am

re: #1350 Occasional Reader

"Look at me, I'm the President! I'm all signing stuff and whatnot at a big desk!"

Mel Brooks in Blazing Saddles,, sitting at the desk signing papers with the "well endowed" lady next to him

"Work work work work work ,, Hello boys (as he looks into her cleavage),, miss me?"

1375 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:48am

Explosive Video Reich, Obamas economic advisor no "White Male Construction Workers"

No skilled workers need apply. Hope the dems choose doctors that failed to finish med school.

1376 turn  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:50am

re: #1349 vxbush

Heh...I know a physicist who will be very upset he isn't on the list.

Hawking is up there pretty high I see, cool. Who did you have in mind?

1377 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:52am

re: #1281 buzzsawmonkey

And the questioner will be held to be at fault.

Probably, Stephonopolis & Charlie Gibson took flak for asking Obama tough questions during a debate.

1378 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:14:09am

re: #1361 DistantThunder

I think it will make a great campaign commerical - President Obama brought terrorists to your state. Now they are an ongoing threat to our security.

I had expected SuperMax (here in Colorado) to be mentioned as a possible place to house the terrorists. I've not seen it on any "list", though.

Suits me just fine, and it is a NIMBY attitude.

1379 sattv4u2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:14:09am

re: #1355 MandyManners

But, she has big tits.

You type that like its a BAD thing!

1380 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:14:43am

re: #1356 BlueCanuck

Depends on the wall, and the person throwing it.

WAB in the White House family kitchen.

1381 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:15:12am

re: #1326 DistantThunder

Lots of low class behavior in the last 3 days.

8 years

1382 J.S.  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:15:22am

re: #1358 turn

Off hand, I don't know...I'll go look it up...(iirc he was initially released to Saudi Arabia...but then -- somehow -- made his way to Yemen.)

1383 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:15:31am

re: #1370 MandyManners

Maybe but, I ducked and ran so I didn't see much. Left quite a mess.

I'm looking forward to watching him shit a brick.

1384 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:16:01am

re: #1209 jcm
Hey jcm! According to today's NY Post - linked to somewhere up above you're "She supports same-sex marriage.[9]" is incorrect; she's been anti-gay marriage for a long time.
Remember she is a D from a largely R populated Upstate New York.

1385 VegasRick  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:16:03am

re: #1371 Occasional Reader

Really? I hadn't noticed.

What is Mandy talkin' about?

[Link: pamfunclub.blogspot.com...]

1386 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:16:13am

re: #1376 turn

Hawking is up there pretty high I see, cool. Who did you have in mind?

I can't say, unfortunately, as it's someone I have worked with. But it's someone I know who has a rather huge ego.

1387 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:16:15am

re: #1373 midwestgak

Morning jorline - please check your email.

Good morning, {gak}.

checking

1388 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:16:18am

re: #1366 jcm

She's a fake blond.

Who pays attention to her hair?

1389 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:16:19am

re: #1375 newsjunkie_ky

Explosive Video Reich, Obamas economic advisor no "White Male Construction Workers"

No skilled workers need apply. Hope the dems choose doctors that failed to finish med school.

Are you getting this you PA and Ohio blue collar voters?

1390 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:16:34am

re: #1374 sattv4u2

Mel Brooks in Blazing Saddles,, sitting at the desk signing papers with the "well endowed" lady next to him

"Work work work work work ,, Hello boys (as he looks into her cleavage),, miss me?"

"Hey! I didn't get a 'harrumph' from that guy!"

1391 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:16:37am

re: #1381 faraway

8 years

Save the planet recycle the bumper sticker...
Jan. 20, 200913. The end of an error.

1392 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:16:56am
1393 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:17:04am

re: #1316 MandyManners

I withstood The Kid's tantrums but, he didn't have the kind of power that a president has.

But, a melt down will erode the 'Cool" image.

1394 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:17:17am

re: #1384 realwest

Hey jcm! According to today's NY Post - linked to somewhere up above you're "She supports same-sex marriage.[9]" is incorrect; she's been anti-gay marriage for a long time.
Remember she is a D from a largely R populated Upstate New York.

No zip about her, the wiki link has her anti-gun control.

1395 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:17:23am

re: #1380 MandyManners

WAB in the White House family kitchen.

... with a waffle iron.

-From "Clue", 2009 edition

1396 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:17:23am

re: #1265 Spare O'Lake

The problem with that is two fold:

1. There will be less intelligence material gathered.
2. There may be battlefield executions which get reported in the press & then cause problems for the soldiers or CIA agents involved.

Obama's new policy is designed to protect politicians in Washington, not US troops or agents abroad and certainly not to protect US citizens.

1397 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:17:26am

re: #1362 albusteve

ooo...what fun!...pampered minority president's wife out of control...coupla spoiled neophytes spatting over the power split while the world burns!...what a ...riot!

I wonder what went on behind the scenes when the Clintons were in office.

1398 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:17:36am

re: #1385 VegasRick

What is Mandy talkin' about?

[Link: pamfunclub.blogspot.com...]

that is really awful...what a freak

1399 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:17:59am

It occurred to me that so many of us are connected to Caroline Kennedy due to the famous pictures of her with her parents - for a blind man - he would not posses that same connection.

Appointment was blind to Camelot.

1400 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:18:15am

re: #1371 Occasional Reader

Really? I hadn't noticed.

You must have a red-tipped cane.

1401 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:18:31am

re: #1347 J.S.

When every attention-seeking lawyer in America is racing to defend them, and they all get set free, it will be a sad day for LGF.

*It is noted pre-emptively that the phrase "attention-seeking lawyer" should be referred to the Office of Redundancy Department for correction.

1402 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:18:40am

re: #1371 Occasional Reader

Really? I hadn't noticed.

Sure, she has several pairs of them.

1403 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:18:49am

re: #1386 vxbush

I can't say, unfortunately, as it's someone I have worked with. But it's someone I know who has a rather huge ego.

I will note that I'm glad to see Perelman and Wiles on the list. They definitely deserve the recognition.

1404 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:18:51am

re: #1373 midwestgak

Morning jorline - please check your email.

Nothing there.

1405 AuntAcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:18:51am

re: #18 HelloDare

I've been living in a cave for the last three years. What's this about some guy named Barack Obami or something like that?

Actually it's not a guy but a new, stronger formmulation of Ecstacy being introduced into the water supply nationwide.

1406 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:19:28am

re: #1376 turn

Hawking is up there pretty high I see, cool. Who did you have in mind?

Anybody who thinks that $oros deserves a higher place on such a list than Sir Stephen Hawking has had a very defective education!

1407 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:19:43am
1408 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:19:58am

re: #1366 jcm

She's a fake blond.


She has to prove that!

1409 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:20:00am

re: #1401 DeafDog

*It is noted pre-emptively that the phrase "attention-seeking lawyer" should be referred to the Office of Redundancy Department for correction.

Mmm, don't generalize.

1410 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:20:06am

re: #1397 Kosh's Shadow

I wonder what went on behind the scenes when the Clintons were in office.

there's a ton of money to be made right there when it finally comes out...if anybody is alive to tell the tale that is...hahaha

1411 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:20:17am

re: #1404 jorline

Checking where is sent it.

1412 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:20:20am

re: #1406 yma o hyd

Anybody who thinks that $oros deserves a higher place on such a list than Sir Stephen Hawking has had a very defective education!

And above two great mathematicians. Oy.

1413 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:21:13am

re: #1408 DeafDog

She has to prove that!

The curtains can be any color with a bare floor.

1414 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:21:19am

re: #1210 jorline

Par for the course.

Obama flashes irritation in press room

Elected to office and still not answering questions. The libs thought Bush was evasive...meet the new transparent leadership. He's still like nailing jello to the wall.

he is just clever enough to know he has to hide his stupidity.
i'm thinking that will be his main priority while he is in office.

1415 turn  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:21:32am

re: #1382 J.S.


Hey don't sweat it, I'll look later. I was just curious and thinking they released him because they had little to hold him on and then he ends up No 2. Just wondering what is going to happen to the really bad guys that were held for the duration if/when they eventually get released.

1416 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:21:34am

re: #1396 Kenneth

The problem with that is two fold:

1. There will be less intelligence material gathered.
2. There may be battlefield executions which get reported in the press & then cause problems for the soldiers or CIA agents involved.

Obama's new policy is designed to protect politicians in Washington, not US troops or agents abroad and certainly not to protect US citizens.

The problem is Obama's Policies have NO designs to them at all. They are simply a knee jerk reaction to anything President Bush did, and have never really been thought thru. Exemplified by Obama having no idea what to do with the detainees BEFORE he decides to close Gitmo. Where I come from they call that ass backwards.

1417 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:21:40am

re: #1407 Iron Fist

Once you've started down that path, it gets harder and harder to go back to where you came from. We've already lost a lot of our Second Amendment rights. We are unlikely to ever get them all back

I enjoy doom and gloom as much as the next guy, but couldn't you say that at least in the last decade or so, we've seen a decent amount of pushback against the gun-grabbers? E.g. the number of states that now have concealed carry.

1418 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:22:00am

bbiaw

1419 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:22:10am

re: #1355 MandyManners

But they're fake, which makes Megyn the winner hands down.

1420 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:22:22am

re: #1413 Who Watches the Watchmen?

The curtains can be any color with a bare floor.

Somehow, that makes more sense when paired with the guy holding the "F*ck Bush" ball in a comment above.

1421 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:22:48am

I'm sorry for not responding to any of the Lizards about my unemployment comments, I got a phone call I had to take.

1422 Silhouette  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:23:11am

Guns silent as Gaza edges back to normalcy

Uh, do they know what "normal" is for Gaza?

1423 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:23:13am

re: #1409 Occasional Reader

Mmm, don't generalize.


Present company excluded, of course

1424 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:23:35am

re: #1396 Kenneth

The problem with that is two fold:

1. There will be less intelligence material gathered.
2. There may be battlefield executions which get reported in the press & then cause problems for the soldiers or CIA agents involved.

Obama's new policy is designed to protect politicians in Washington, not US troops or agents abroad and certainly not to protect US citizens.

If you have no place to take prisoners, it seems that the natural thing to do is take no prisoners ... There's only one way to do that and win battles.

1425 J.S.  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:23:37am

re: #1358 turn

there's an Associated Press story which states: "Documents released by the U.S. Defense Department show that al-Shihri was released from the facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba in November 2007 and transferred to his homeland." He was returned to S. Arabia. the Ap story here. Will look for the U.S. Defense Department documents...(from what I've read thus far, it appears to have been some kind of mutual agreement between the Saudis and the U.S.)

1426 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:23:42am

re: #1407 Iron Fist

At least she's not a gun control freak. That really is what worries me the most. Gun control is the issue that proves the "slippery slope" model. Once you've started down that path, it gets harder and harder to go back to where you came from. We've already lost a lot of our Second Amendment rights. We are unlikely to ever get them all back, but maybe we can bitterly cling to the ones that we still have.

We need to watch the EO's closely. Halder is a big gun control freak, some indicators I say said BHO would give Halder wide power in the area.

What we need is Republic Restoration Party. Classically liberal / conservative / libertarian.

1427 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:23:48am

I see no one noticed this on the top 100 geniuses of our time:

43. Osama Bin Laden (Saudi) Islamicist

Wow.

1428 AuntAcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:23:48am

re: #1359 Nevergiveup

Have you noticed that Emanuel always has a shit eating grin on his face?

A side effect of a Viagra OD.

1429 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:23:49am

re: #1248 vxbush
Well a little extra help would be nice, but it's nicer just to have friends (everytime we go out with her - about 3 or 4 times now) we always time it to get lunch someplace nice and pick up the tab - gives us time to chat and helps - sorta - to cover the cost of the gasoline she's using!

1430 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:23:58am
1431 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:24:07am

re: #1414 nyc redneck

he is just clever enough to know he has to hide his stupidity.
i'm thinking that will be his main priority while he is in office.

Four years of putting lipstick on the pig?

1432 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:24:11am

Maybe it's delayed. I checked the address and it's the one I've always used. Hum.

1433 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:24:20am

re: #1412 vxbush

And above two great mathematicians. Oy.

Math? Any fool with a calculator can be good at math. To engineer the downfall of the global banking system & have your Marxist sock-puppet take over as leader of the free world? That is supervillain level genius.

1434 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:24:36am

re: #1422 Silhouette

Guns silent as Gaza edges back to normalcy

Uh, do they know what "normal" is for Gaza?

Well, if there are no rockets being launched at Israel, it isn't the "normal" of the past several years.

1435 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:24:55am

re: #1257 jorline
Hey there jorline! How are you today?

1436 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:24:59am

There ye go: Obama says stimulus deal on track

(Nice unflattering photo of PB0!)

1437 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:25:04am

re: #1429 realwest

Well a little extra help would be nice, but it's nicer just to have friends (everytime we go out with her - about 3 or 4 times now) we always time it to get lunch someplace nice and pick up the tab - gives us time to chat and helps - sorta - to cover the cost of the gasoline she's using!

That is so kind of you! And I'm glad she's taking the time to help you folks out.

1438 turn  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:25:20am

re: #1386 vxbush

Interesting ...

1439 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:25:45am

re: #1433 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Math? Any fool with a calculator can be good at math. To engineer the downfall of the global banking system & have your Marxist sock-puppet take over as leader of the free world? That is supervillain level genius.

Must we give evil geniuses the same accolades as the good ones?

1440 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:26:06am

Obama Chia Pet.

Come with packet of mary jane seeds.

1441 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:26:18am

re: #1270 Honorary Yooper
It was a "FUCK GEORGE" sign.

1442 Unakite  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:26:40am

I'd like to post a link but haven't posted one before. Need help.

1443 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:26:45am

re: #1432 midwestgak

Maybe it's delayed. I checked the address and it's the one I've always used. Hum.

I just checked again...nothing there. I will keep checking and respond gak.

1444 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:26:52am

re: #1438 turn

Interesting ...

If you're dying to know, I'd be willing to email you. But not online.

1445 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:26:53am

re: #1422 Silhouette

Guns silent as Gaza edges back to normalcy

Uh, do they know what "normal" is for Gaza?

I think it's the same "normal" that passed for "normal" at Cabrini-Green.

1446 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:27:16am

Watch for the following announcement from President Obama:
The US will close Guantanamo.
All known terrorists who are now there will be shot by firing squad.
The rest will be deported to their shitholes of origin.
In future all terrorists will be killed wherever and whenever they are engaged. No prisoners will be taken.
We will hunt them all down and kill them all.
God Bless America.
///

1447 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:27:29am

later Lizards.

1448 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:28:01am

re: #1300 Mayor of Shadyville

Has anyone seen the AOL article this morning top 10 living geniuses?

The list is the result of a poll of 4000 British people, in otherwords, it a list of who ordinary people think are geniuses. Look who's tied for 43rd place:


43=Mohammed Ali (American) Boxer

43 = Osama Bin Laden (Saudi) Islamicist

43 = Bill Gates (American) Businessman

43 = Philip Roth (American) Writer

Right.

1449 Silhouette  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:28:12am

Jimmy Carter: The Liberal Left and World Chaos by Michael Evans was released on Tuesday, January 20. It coincided with the release of a new book by Jimmy Carter, We Can Have Peace in the Middle East (A Plan that Will Work.)

On Inauguration Day, President Jimmy Carter appealed to President Obama to implement his plan for the Middle East. His plan is outlined in my article "Jimmy Carter: We Can Have Peace": [Link: tool.donation-net.net...]

1450 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:28:12am

re: #1446 Spare O'Lake

Watch for the following announcement from President Obama:
The US will close Guantanamo.
All known terrorists who are now there will be shot by firing squad.
The rest will be deported to their shitholes of origin.
In future all terrorists will be killed wherever and whenever they are engaged. No prisoners will be taken.
We will hunt them all down and kill them all.
God Bless America.
/// /// ///

No, that's what I would say.

1451 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:28:20am

re: #1446 Spare O'Lake

Okay, how did you make your sarc tags run off the edge of th page? That's some impressive sarcasm!

1452 CommonCents  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:28:38am

re: #1082 buzzsawmonkey

NPR noted this morning that NYC has increased unemployment compensation from its former half-year limit to 59 weeks.

The next morning show noted with concern that the rate of unemployment in NYC is now at a 14-year high.

Undoubtably, many of those unemployed and recorded as such have been the victims of closing, downsizing, etc.--of law firms and brokerage houses and real estate offices as well as retail and construction jobs.

Yet, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that if one pays people more than twice as long as formerly to remain unemployed, at least some of those being paid will elect to take advantage of payments without the need to work for them. Some may use this time productively to increase their skills or explore opportunities in new fields, but some, surely, will also merely enjoy a sabbatical at taxpayer expense.

When I first arrived in New York, a friend and neighbor of mine was living the remittance-man life of the unemployment recipient, and life for him was a gay roundelay until the date began to loom on which the remittances would cease--at which point he sought a job that would, after the requisite six months of work, permit him to enjoy once again the status of a state-funded remittance man.

One cannot help but wonder how much the increased benefits--which, in "tough economic times," are sacrosanct despite the city and the state screaming for additional taxes from their citizens and additional bailout from the Federal Government--are the cause of both the current financial woes and the burgeoning unemployment statistics.

My neighbor here in Michigan is one of those "professionally" unemployed. It irks me that I'm paying my bills AND HIS.

1453 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:28:49am

re: #1443 jorline

Our systems have been slooowww. What I emailed to you isn't urgent by any means.

But, yes, let me know if you don't have it by Monday. lol

1454 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:25am

re: #1283 DistantThunder

Preach it!

1455 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:30:06am

re: #1355 MandyManners

And headlights on?

1456 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:30:09am

re: #1435 realwest

Hey there jorline! How are you today?

Good morning, RW...all is well here and you?

You need to feed that horse of yours more protein...needs more giddy in his up.

Good to see you RW.

1457 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:30:52am

re: #1371 Occasional Reader

{WHACK}

1458 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:32:01am

re: #1453 midwestgak

Our systems have been slooowww. What I emailed to you isn't urgent by any means.

But, yes, let me know if you don't have it by Monday. lol

Will do...thanks.

1459 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:32:09am
1460 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:32:42am

re: #1430 buzzsawmonkey

Obama is not stupid. He is, however, as callow as they come.

He will be seeking to hide, not stupidity--perhaps not even ignorance--but his indecision, vacillation and general unfitness for decision-making and dealing with crises, and the true extent to which ideology rules his actions.

i think he's stupid.
slightly clever but stupid.

1461 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:33:07am

re: #1350 Occasional Reader

I just picture him as Alfred E. Newman...what me worry? He obviously spent more energy on keeping his blackberry than anything this week. Then the priorities: phone terrorist Jew-killer and give Muslim world a vicarious blow job-CHECK...fund abortions: CHECK, close Gitmo: CHECK...

1462 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:33:36am

Anyone recall Ron Silver scolding the military flyover of Clinton's inaugural, then saying "those are OUR planes now..."?

I think he later evolved, but chatter like that seems positively vanilla compared to what The One's minions have spewed.

1463 lifeofthemind  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:33:44am

Good morning. Just want to comment on a long dead thread, forgive if this was already said. I contacted the American Legion and asked about the Salute to Heroes story, their reply arrived 5 minutes later and follows:

In answer to your inquiry:

The American Legion, as it has on every inauguration evening since 1953, hosted the Salute to Heroes Inaugural Banquet & Ball on January 20th. The quadrennial event is co-sponsored with fourteen veterans service and military service organizations and honors recipients of the Medal of Honor. Forty-seven of these heroes attended this year’s event which was held in the Renaissance Washington DC Hotel.

President Obama was invited but did not attend. Vice-President Joe Biden did appear, however, and was very warmly received. The new President’s absence was understandable considering the unprecedented logistical challenges presented by the vastly increased number of visitors to this inauguration and the necessary attendant security measures. The American Legion, as an organization, does not feel offended or “snubbed.”

Thank you,

Craig

Craig Roberts

Media Relations Manager

The American Legion

1608 K Street, NW

Washington, DC 20006

Moonbat operatives who ridiculed the story deserve public exposure and sanction. Error is pardonable, fraud and abuse are not.

1464 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:34:08am

re: #1354 DistantThunder
Yup. Great POTUS, eh?
BTW, my personal experience re: abortion didn't deal with abused women or anything else; it was when NOW got started and became a big deal - course we haven't heard from NOW at all about the way poor American women are treated nor of course about Muslim women.
But the bit about an ex-wife getting pregnant and having an abortion and then telling me she had been pregnant (she knew I wanted to have children too) and got a divorce all without saying anything to me until after the abortion is true, and has happended to other men I've spoken with as well.

1465 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:34:24am

re: #1213 opnion

They definitely ooze something.

1466 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:35:54am

re: #1363 Kosh's Shadow
Sure hope your company - and more importantly YOU make it ok!

1467 jcbunga  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:35:57am

What will be the overused term of the next 4 years?

Transparency?

Spew?

1468 JacksonTn  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:30am

re: #1463 lifeofthemind

Good morning. Just want to comment on a long dead thread, forgive if this was already said. I contacted the American Legion and asked about the Salute to Heroes story, their reply arrived 5 minutes later and follows:

Moonbat operatives who ridiculed the story deserve public exposure and sanction. Error is pardonable, fraud and abuse are not.

Lifeotm...could you go and post that on the thread that was up about it ...I called the hotel the night of the posting because people were saying it did not happen and the hotel said it did ...last night someone registered here and the first thing they did was post that this did not happen ... I saw there post and responded to them ...please post your reply from the Legion to that persons post ...please ...

1469 Silhouette  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:59am

re: #1467 jcbunga

What will be the overused term of the next 4 years?

Historic.

1470 midwestgak  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:07am

re: #1467 jcbunga

What will be the overused term of the next 4 years?

Transparency?

Spew?

The phrase?

I'd be lying if I didn't say . . .

1471 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:39:00am

re: #1375 newsjunkie_ky
Hey {news} I reported that to Charles in the hope of getting a thread out of it; y'all do know that basically Latin and White men make up over 90%* of the constuction work force, right?


*educated guess.

1472 Silhouette  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:40:23am

re: #1463 lifeofthemind

I emailed them also and got the same reponse minus the last two lines. They've expanded the standard reply to address the specific issue of "snub" and are handling this with honor. Of course they will not officially whine. It would be juvenile, pointless, and dishonorable.

I thanked Mr. Roberts for his reply and got back a short "non-form letter" reply that made me laugh and made me think he didn't vote for Obama.

1473 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:40:33am
1474 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:44am

re: #1389 DistantThunder
Of course they are getting it; just getting it too late to make a difference in the election.
Yep, the LGF Fiskie was awarded to the most deserving.
BTW, using Fed basis for stats, White Heterosexual Men are now in a minority position in this country, but
Fed discrimination laws haven't kept apace. Gee, wonder why that is?!

1475 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:43:51am

re: #1392 buzzsawmonkey
Well then she [deleted for my own good].

1476 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:45:48am

re: #1430 buzzsawmonkey

Obama is not stupid. He is, however, as callow as they come.

He will be seeking to hide, not stupidity--perhaps not even ignorance--but his indecision, vacillation and general unfitness for decision-making and dealing with crises, and the true extent to which ideology rules his actions.

re: #1460 nyc redneck

i think he's stupid.
slightly clever but stupid.

Whichever it is, he will not be able to hide it forever.

Unfortunately, I fear the MSM will not "call" him on it.

Instead, the MSM will be keeping a close eye out for any media outlet, radio talk show or TV opinion show that does comment on Obama's stupidity, indecision and general unfitness for the position he occupies, and I believe we will see a flurry of charges of "racism".

1477 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:46:33am

re: #1394 jcm
Again, according to NY Post she's been backed by the NRA both times she ran (and won) her congressional seat. See[Link: www.nypost.com...]

1478 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:46:46am

re: #1473 buzzsawmonkey

We disagree. It is possible, for example, to be highly intelligent yet incompetent; intelligence can get in the way of acting when action is required. The play Hamlet, ultimately, is about this; Hamlet is no fool, but he spends the entire play dithering because he cannot bring himself to do what he believes must be done, and his delays bring disaster on himself and everyone around him.

I believe Obama to be intelligent, and not uneducated, but these qualities are subordinated an insatiable desire for self-aggrandizement which prevents him from acting on his intelligence or his knowledge for fear of how he might be perceived--unless he feels in control of the creation of perception.

His wife, I believe, is unintelligent, and temperamentally unsuited to making the most of what intelligence she has--yet bright enough to know that there is much that glitters beyond her grasp because of these limitations. And I believe that this resentment is what animates her.

I think you've captured them perfectly.

1479 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:50:15am

re: #1437 vxbush
YEP! Us too! She's a really nice person and an LGFer!

1480 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:52:32am

re: #1451 Occasional Readereasy , she didn't use preview and Charles was kind!

1481 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:53:45am

re: #1456 jorline
"You need to feed that horse of yours more protein...needs more giddy in his up."
Huh?

1482 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:49am

Good Morning!
Anybody left on the dead thread?

1483 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:25am

re: #1482 redstateredneck

Good Morning!
Anybody left on the dead thread?

NO.
You need to go upthread.

1484 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:56:08am
1485 redstateredneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:58:24am

re: #1483 reine.de.tout

NO.
You need to go upthread.

Reine! Are you trying to get rid of me?

1486 newmelleman  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:58:55am

re: #1482 redstateredneck


Do I count?

NMM

1487 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:11:15am

re: #1481 realwest

"You need to feed that horse of yours more protein...needs more giddy in his up."
Huh?

Was making a joke about you being back 150 comments at that time...lol...your avatar.

1488 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:11:19am

re: #1388 MandyManners

Who pays attention to her hair?

It depends on the portion of her anatomy that the hair is covering. You know eye brows, legs, armpits, head... all those places.

1489 jill e  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:21:39am

My son & I watched the movie, "Camelot" over Christmas for his English extra credit assignment. I think people forget (or don't know) that Camelot ended pretty badly. Arthur's noble round table is destroyed...Gwen and Lance are messing around behind his back...his illegitimate son, Mordred is scheming to take over...war become inevitable as Arthur must fight France...Gwen becomes a nun...not good at all!

1490 gmsc  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:23:03am

re: #303 littleoldlady

(Is gmsc here?)

gmsc! :-)

I went to sleep early, but thanks for thinking of me!


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