Straight Outta Gitmo

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According to some estimates, at least 10 percent of the Al Qaeda terrorists released from Guantanamo Bay immediately return to the jihad, and here’s the latest example: Report: Ex-Gitmo detainee joins al-Qaida in Yemen.

CAIRO, Egypt – A Saudi man released from Guantanamo after spending nearly six years inside the U.S. prison camp is now the No. 2 of Yemen’s al-Qaida branch, according to a purported Internet statement from the terror network.

The announcement, made this week on a Web site commonly used by militants, came as President Barack Obama ordered the detention facility closed within a year. Many of the remaining detainees are from Yemen, which has long posed a vexing terrorism problem for the U.S.

The terror group’s Yemen branch — known as “al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula” — said the man, identified as Said Ali al-Shihri, returned to his home in Saudi Arabia after his release from Guantanamo about a year ago and from there went to Yemen, which is Osama bin Laden’s ancestral home.

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1 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:26:16am

Give the guy a break. He was just getting a head start on Job hunting before the mass release that is up coming.

2 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:26:34am
3 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:26:38am

I'm glad we're no longer interfering with the rights of these freedom fighters.
/oy

4 big L  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:26:44am

Already on Laura ingrahma this morning.Bet she reads LFG...

5 turn  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:27:06am

Oh, I'll have to go check dKos and Huffpo to find out just why this is all Bush's fault.

/

6 wiley  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:27:10am

Why wouldn't they go back to jihad? There is no truning thme around.

wiley

7 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:27:15am

We are much safer now that he is the leader of Yemen's Al Quida.

And the Europeans like us more.

8 turn  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:28:10am

Just wait until some of the full termers get released. This is insane.

9 Kragar  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:28:31am

Well, I'm sure they just havent gotten the memo that the Lightbringer has taken over. This will all be taken care of when they get their unicorns.

10 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:28:35am

Certianly we've restored our reputation from the Clinton years with AlQueda.

11 Hengineer  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:00am

Catch and release!

12 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:02am

If the Gitmo detainees released kill Americans can Obama be charged with treason ?

13 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:11am
14 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:19am

The Moonbats will be dancing in the streets.

15 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:22am

I can sleep at night knowing our moral standing in the world has been restored. I just hope nothing blows up near me while I'm asleep.

16 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:34am

Now if this were a business - someone would get fired - or lots of someones. But because this is obviously a government screw up - nothing will happen to anyone.

17 Shug  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:40am

I blame each and every idiot who voted for Obama in advance for the first American death related to the release of these terrorists.

18 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:46am

Why spend all that much to send them back to Yemen or Saudi Arabia? Just open the gate and make them Fidel's problem to send back. Save money and give the Castros a headache at the same time.

19 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:30:21am

re: #18 Honorary Yooper

Why spend all that much to send them back to Yemen or Saudi Arabia? Just open the gate and make them Fidel's problem to send back. Save money and give the Castros a headache at the same time.

They would fund them.

20 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:30:38am

re: #11 Hengineer

Catch and release!

No.

Catch, Feed, Cloth, Medical & Dental Care, Physiological Counseling, Feed some more. Then Release.

21 VegasRick  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:30:56am

re: #11 Hengineer

Catch and release!

Catch, insert GPS device and release!


Better idea.

22 Shug  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:31:01am

Don't worry. Greg Craig's gonna get a policy in place

/

23 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:31:04am

re: #12 ThinkRight

If the Gitmo detainees released kill Americans can Obama be charged with treason ?

No. But perhaps the Left will think of a way to perform a retroactive impeachment of Bush.

24 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:31:05am

But is his fist unclenched? See, that's the important thing.

/

25 Silhouette  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:31:10am

But see, that means 90% don't! It is just a tiny minority.

/apologist

26 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:31:45am
27 phil flavin  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:31:53am

Who will be the first in the One's administration to appologise to these poor mistreated souls?

28 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:32:29am
He was released to Saudi Arabia in 2007 and passed through a Saudi rehabilitation program for former jihadists before resurfacing with Al Qaeda in Yemen.

"My name is Said, and I'm a suicide bomber."

"Hi, Said."

29 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:32:45am

re: #15 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I can sleep at night knowing our moral standing in the world has been restored. I just hope nothing blows up near me while I'm asleep.

Don't you wonder how our moral standing in the world could need to be restored when no other countries will take their own jihadi citizens back and we have trouble getting our criminal citizens back from them?

30 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:33:11am

Just one example of how closing Gitmo is a vital part of Obama's Terrorism Stimulus Package®.

31 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:33:13am

It's clear that Obama really doesn't know what to do with Gitmo. Why are military tribunals suddenly not acceptable?

32 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:33:19am

re: #27 phil flavin

Who will be the first in the One's administration to appologise to these poor mistreated souls?

Obama has, in effect, done exactly that.

33 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:33:58am

C'Mon.

He was involved in the Embassy Bombings.

When was that, 2000?

The One was only 36 at the time.

He's just a spiritual guide.

Not a big deal.

34 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:34:01am

I am SHOCKED that there were terrorists at Gitmo.
I thought they were all misunderstood conscripts.
/Liberal "thinking"

35 tntb  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:34:27am

The fact that 90% *don't* return to the battlefield actually seems like more evidence that most of these guys actually aren't hardcore al Qaeda terrorists. It'd be nice if we could actually figure out who is before letting them loose.

36 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:34:28am

re: #32 Daisy

Obama has, in effect, done exactly that.

What will be the next step?
Open invitation to come back and do it again?

/////

37 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:34:31am

Is this the fisting thread?

WHAT?

38 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:34:44am
39 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:34:46am

seems to me to blatently disregard the Constitution and his oath of office makes BO derelict...he should be impeached and convicted for it....protecting the citizenry is his number one responsibility....you knew that tho

40 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:34:56am

re: #18 Honorary Yooper

Why spend all that much to send them back to Yemen or Saudi Arabia? Just open the gate and make them Fidel's problem to send back. Save money and give the Castros a headache at the same time.

So they can get a boat and sail to Florida? No- send them to France.

41 VegasRick  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:35:11am

re: #35 tntb

The fact that 90% *don't* return to the battlefield actually seems like more evidence that most of these guys actually aren't hardcore al Qaeda terrorists. It'd be nice if we could actually figure out who is before letting them loose.

oh brother.

42 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:35:15am

Drop 'em in DC.....
Gang bangers will solve the problem.

43 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:35:35am

re: #31 tackle

It's clear that Obama really doesn't know what to do with Gitmo. Why are military tribunals suddenly not acceptable?

I don't think the military tribunals have ever been acceptable to the Left. Neither really has any action Bush has taken to protect and defend this country. The Left hates the military as much as they hold in contempt the principles that made this country great.

44 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:35:43am

re: #7 Ben Hur

We are much safer now that he is the leader of Yemen's Al Quida.

And the Europeans like us more.

And that is what matters. That Europe likes us more.

You'd think they'd likes us anyway because we pay for their defense. Apparently that is not enough for EuroLove.

45 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:35:46am

re: #38 ploome hineni

..........according to FOX, Gov Patterson of NewYork, speaks to AlSharpton every day

..that's nice

I'm going to touch that one...morning, ploome.

46 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:08am
47 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:13am

Bbbbbut...whatabout Obama's blackberry and stuff?

48 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:19am

re: #42 jcm

Drop 'em in DC.....
Gang bangers will solve the problem.

yup...put a bounty on em...problem solved

49 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:22am

re: #35 tntb

The fact that 90% *don't* return to the battlefield actually seems like more evidence that most of these guys actually aren't hardcore al Qaeda terrorists. It'd be nice if we could actually figure out who is before letting them loose.

Yep- these guys were just innocent tourists of Afghanistan. ////

50 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:27am

re: #40 Sharmuta

So they can get a boat and sail to Florida? No- send them to France.

Yeah - and turn Chirac's Maltese poodle on them!

51 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:29am

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

Not really a fist then, is it, sir?

It's a Zen koan. The One is so wise! He's like Yoda, only smarter.

52 VegasRick  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:35am

re: #42 jcm

Drop 'em in DC.....
Gang bangers will solve the problem.

Youtube Video
53 Pyrocles  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:38am

They only joined the Jihad to enact revenge on their captors. They weren't jihadists when captured; just simple farmers in the wrong place at the wrong time. Now, they have no choice but to fight...thanks to Bushilter. /Kos

re: #5 turn

Oh, I'll have to go check dKos and Huffpo to find out just why this is all Bush's fault.

/

54 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:37:02am

re: #50 yma o hyd

Yeah - and turn Chirac's Maltese poodle on them!

Now there's an idea!

55 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:37:05am
56 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:37:09am

re: #28 Alouette

WICKEDLY FUNNY. And true.

57 lifeofthemind  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:37:15am

Morning, got to run, posted on the Salute to Heroes Ball on the last thread, take care.

58 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:37:25am

re: #28 Alouette

"My name is Said, and I'm a suicide bomber."

"Hi, Said."

"Here, we train you to be much more. Send others to be suicide bombers.
Do you know, when you finally go to paradise, you get 36 virgins for every suicide bomber you send. And if you recruit more managers of suicide bombers, you get even more virgins."

59 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:37:52am

re: #31 tackle

It's clear that Obama really doesn't know what to do with Gitmo. Why are military tribunals suddenly not acceptable?

No real idea. I guess the moonbats must feel some sort of strange kinship with them. The people held at Gitmo really aren't subject to the Geneva Conventions as they never were uniformed soldiers or volunteers acting under the authority of a government. If we followed the Geneva Conventions to the letter with these folks, they never would've been taken to Gitmo in the first place. They would never have left Afghanistan, ever. Gitmo is actually very humanitarian of us.

60 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:05am

re: #44 karmic_inquisitor

And that is what matters. That Europe likes us more.

You'd think they'd likes us anyway because we pay for their defense. Apparently that is not enough for EuroLove.

Heh - Europe is second in line.
Main point is -PB0 wants to be luurrved by the Ummah!

61 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:06am
Yemen, which is Osama bin Laden’s ancestral home.

I thought it was Hades.

62 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:07am

re: #35 tntb

The fact that 90% *don't* return to the battlefield actually seems like more evidence that most of these guys actually aren't hardcore al Qaeda terrorists. It'd be nice if we could actually figure out who is before letting them loose.

That's naive thinking, to say the least.

The recidivism rate for criminals in the US is about 60%. Right now, we have already estimated 10% of these characters returning to their old ways. The actual rate is probably much higher.

63 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:10am

Will Obama release Osama?

64 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:11am

re: #31 tackle

Why are military tribunals suddenly not acceptable?

Because neither Obama nor Kos thought of it.

Oh - and people in the military are all fascists!

/ Billy Ayers

65 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:35am

re: #36 yma o hyd

What will be the next step?
Open invitation to come back and do it again?

/////

It sure seems that way to me. Obama appears to have classic appeaser mentality: "I'll make nice to you so that when you continue w/your killing agenda, you'll leave me alone". He and his devotees are, essentially, cowards.

66 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:39am

re: #61 WriterMom

I thought it was Hades.


Yemen, which is Osama bin Laden’s ancestral home.

Anything not to piss off the Saudis.

67 CommonCents  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:45am

re: #9 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Well, I'm sure they just havent gotten the memo that the Lightbringer has taken over. This will all be taken care of when they get their unicorns.

Maybe we should send them genetically modified unicorns. When they do their Blazing Saddles leap onto what used to be a camel, they'll get quite a surprise. A real ^ in the ass.

68 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:47am

re: #44 karmic_inquisitor

Whenever I think of our "moral standing in the world" or whether or not "Europe likes us" reminds me of this quote:

“You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” -Churchill
69 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:38:53am

We are no longer serious about the WOT. It has become a political football.
Obama wants to use any tactic as a proof statement as to how wicked America is.
God help us.

70 Kragar  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:39:00am

In 4 days, Barry has set US security back 8 years.

71 Kenneth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:39:03am

re: #34 Kosh's Shadow

Poets, actually.


But do you hear me, oh Judge, do you hear me at all?
We are innocent, here, we've committed no crime.
Set me free, set us free, if anywhere still
Justice and compassion remain in this world!-- Osama Abu Kabir
72 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:39:20am

re: #55 ploome hineni

hiya jo

and good news AT ALL this morning?

None that I can see on the horizon.
*sigh*

Did the Obama's get their new dog yet?

73 Maximu§  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:39:30am

We are so Fucked!

74 VegasRick  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:39:33am

re: #58 Kosh's Shadow

"Here, we train you to be much more. Send others to be suicide bombers.
Do you know, when you finally go to paradise, you get 36 virgins for every suicide bomber you send. And if you recruit more managers of suicide bombers, you get even more virgins."

Pyramid scheme.

75 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:39:55am
76 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:40:09am

re: #70 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

In 4 days, Barry has set US security back 8 years.

Back to the Future

77 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:40:15am

re: #69 opnion

We are no longer serious about the WOT. It has become a political football.
Obama wants to use any tactic as a proof statement as to how wicked America is.
God help us.

sinful if not worse...the ultimate danger to the US....but let's give him a chance

78 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:40:27am

They should be sent to the place we should have sent them to in the first place: Hell

79 A.W.  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:40:31am

Mmm, now here is how i think the left will process it.

First, they will argue that it is better to let 10 bad guys go free rather than 1 innocent be in gitmo, or wherever The One plans to put them.

Second, they will argue that he wasn't a terrorist until the Bushitler regime detained him.

Both arguments are bunk of course but there you go.

Sigh.

80 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:40:36am

re: #31 tackle

Why are military tribunals suddenly not acceptable?

There are too many unemplyed lawyers in the Democratic party?

81 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:40:50am

Manhattan, are you safer?

82 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:40:51am
83 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:40:53am

bbiaw

84 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:41:04am

re: #75 ploome hineni

so Said leaves Gitmo and get back to Yemen

and he tells everyone how the Americans respected him, and respected islam and how the Americans did everything for him

treated him like the superior muslim he was

gave him a koran, allowed his prayers, built him a special foot shower

Said thinks that the American soldier was on his side

encourages him to continue the jihad

Nice summary of results.

85 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:41:29am

re: #82 ploome hineni

ahhhhhhhhhhhhahahahaha

86 A.W.  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:41:38am

Why do i get the feeling that 1) another 9-11 is inevitable, and 2) it is the only thing that will convince the left that we need to treat this as war?

Or that even another 9-11 won't convince them.

87 SFGoth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:41:45am

Why should we be surprised? Obama is returning to Bill Clinton's level of concern re: Muslim terrorism. Why? Here's the truth folks: Obama is trying/going to recreate Bill Clinton's presidency as if the 1994 Republican Congressional victories had not occurred. Obama is going to look like what Clinton would have been had Newt remained in the minority. This time, the GOP won't come to the nation's rescue in 2010 because it's part and parcel of why Obama is president to begin with and it's a toxic brand name at this point. Enjoy the Second Coming of our First Black President. (If you heard the clip of Herr Reich discussing spreading the $ to unqualified women and minorities, he's essentially talking about an end-run around welfare reform.)

88 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:03am

re: #34 Kosh's Shadow

I am SHOCKED that there were terrorists at Gitmo.
I thought they were all misunderstood conscripts.
/Liberal "thinking"

My absolute favorite is the guy who got picked up from a battlefield in Afghanistan & claimed that he was just on vacation.

89 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:09am

There are certainly more effective ways of reaching better recidivism rates.

90 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:20am
91 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:23am

re: #65 Daisy

It sure seems that way to me. Obama appears to have classic appeaser mentality: "I'll make nice to you so that when you continue w/your killing agenda, you'll leave me alone". He and his devotees are, essentially, cowards.

Yep - and he himself is in a position now where he's guaranteed the best protection on the planet.

Its no consolation that amongst those who will have to bear the consequences of his foolishness will be quite a few of his supporters.

92 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:27am

re: #78 Sharmuta

Agreed,for these scum, battlefield justice. I'm afraid we'll be seeing quite the opposite from here on. Don't be surprised if our troops are required to mirandize them in the field.

93 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:28am

re: #72 jorline

None that I can see on the horizon.
*sigh*

Did the Obama's get their new dog yet?

Sarkozy is sending his dog over to Obama

94 Kragar  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:44am

Next time a bomb goes off in the US, or a hijacking happens, or a hostage crisis occurs, realize your President chose to let it happen in the name of keeping their base happy.

Thats who we have leading us.

95 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:46am

re: #79 A.W.

First, they will argue that it is better to let 10 bad guys go free rather than 1 innocent be in gitmo

"It's better that a hundred guily men go free, than that I should have to chase any of them."

-Chief Clancy Wiggum

97 dhg4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:57am

Is this part of a hypothetical unilateral hudna with Al Qaeda?

Seriously, having detainee go back a while. Here's one Charles noted from a year and a half ago.

And this too is relevant:

A week ago, former Vice President Cheney advised the incoming president to take some time and look carefully at the policies and institutions the Bush administration had put in place to protect the country before following through on campaign pledges to dismantle them. President-elect Obama said on ABC’s This Week: “I think that was pretty good advice, which is I should know what’s going on before we make judgments and that we shouldn’t be making judgments on the basis of incomplete information or campaign rhetoric."

Less than 48 hours after taking office, Obama has begun dismantling those institutions without time for any such review.

This is key. President Obama despite his extreme leftist views and connections tried to position himself after the the primary and until the inauguration as a centrist, or at least a pragmatist. Now that he's in power, he is following his leftist instincts. The supposedly non-partisan media approves.

98 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:58am

re: #55 ploome hineni

hiya jo

and good news AT ALL this morning?

ploome, I'll be helping my daughter-in-law care for my 5 week old - absolutely exquisitely beautiful - granddaughter this afternoon. :)

99 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:43:13am
100 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:43:13am

re: #37 Ben Hur

You are SO GROSS.

101 Ben Hur  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:43:17am

It's amazing.

Apparently the press knows where all these peeps are.

Apparently the military knows about all the training camps in Algeria.

Why not mobilize and kill them?

I mean, if this was 2 weeks ago.

102 yesandno  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:43:23am

The IDIOSSY..... Iowahawk

[Link: bighollywood.breitbart.com...]

103 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:43:36am
104 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:43:36am

re: #35 tntb

The fact that 90% *don't* return to the battlefield actually seems like more evidence that most of these guys actually aren't hardcore al Qaeda terrorists. It'd be nice if we could actually figure out who is before letting them loose.

They all go into "rehab" when repatriated, a program the US pays for. We also pay the governments to keep track of the scum. It is a very active probation program.

And BTW - the 90% thing is indicative that the one's re haven't released probably are the hardcore ones.

Just think - they now get to come on to US soil, get Constitutional protections and criminal procedure. Scenario -

"What - Khalid was not read his Miranda Rights on the battlefield? Tsk. Tsk. We must do what is right and release him. What - no country will take him? Well, he is hereby released to the City of Detroit. Case Dismissed!"

105 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:43:44am

re: #86 A.W.

Why do i get the feeling that 1) another 9-11 is inevitable, and 2) it is the only thing that will convince the left that we need to treat this as war?

Or that even another 9-11 won't convince them.

Sadly, I don't know if anything else will convince them. I fear a large city could be taken out, and the left would stretch and yawn and claim it all to be our own fault, and that we should reach out to those who did the atrocity. Pardon my pessimism.

106 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:43:59am

re: #101 Ben Hur

The press also knows about tunnels in Gaza. Lots of nice pictures.

107 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:44:18am

re: #82 ploome hineni

michelle?

Not precisely a new dog.

108 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:44:28am

re: #94 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'm gonna hurl.

109 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:44:33am

re: #38 ploome hineni

..........according to FOX, Gov Patterson of NewYork, speaks to AlSharpton every day

..that's nice

The Gov has to get his bets in somehow?

110 tappin52  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:44:42am

re: #86 A.W.

But it would open the flood gates for the rest of us to shut the appeasers up and lock them away until we get the job done.

111 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:44:48am
112 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:44:48am

re: #107 Daisy

I was going to say, there already is a b*tch at the White House.

113 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:44:48am

re: #68 tackle

Whenever I think of our "moral standing in the world" or whether or not "Europe likes us" reminds me of this quote:

Great quote!

114 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:45:00am

This kinder gentler approach to terror is exactly what led to WTC 1 and 2.Make no mistake that the Islamists are watching and smiling as our resolve to fight them diminishes before the eyes of the world.

115 Land Shark  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:45:06am

Oh joy! Think of the boost Al-Queda is gonna get when Obambi empties Guantanamo and releases all those murdering slime balls. That Hope and Change shit is gonna get plenty of innocent skilled.

And The One's new Brown Shirts, Organizing For America, can kiss my fat ass. And can't wait for one of those idiots to try to organize me.

"Comrade! I'm here for our Dear Leader. Care to make a donation?"

Sure, pal, now where did I put my .45?

116 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:45:42am

re: #93 faraway

SarkozyChirac is sending his dog over to Obama

The creature most frequently accompanying Sarko is definitely not a dog.

117 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:45:44am

re: #92 vagabond trader

Agreed,for these scum, battlefield justice. I'm afraid we'll be seeing quite the opposite from here on. Don't be surprised if our troops are required to mirandize them in the field.

The administration will have to figure out what to do with detainees who can't be transferred or tried because of tainted evidence, according to the executive orders.


The military is not law enforcement. Rules of War, are different from the criminal legal process. Clinton made terror a legal issue and it culminated in 9/11. Bush made it a war and we've had no attacks. Obama is making it a legal process again. Next step..........

118 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:45:46am

o wants so much to be liked. a great citizen of the world.
he will put our well being at risk to achieve that goal.
he has no life experiences to draw from.
just ridiculous platitudes. unattainable utopian nonsense.
he is a danger to america. and showing it clearly, already.

119 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:46:09am
120 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:46:22am

Charles, an N.W.A. fan. Who knew?
"You are now about to witness the strength of street knowledge..."

121 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:46:29am

If anyone thinks that 10 per cent is not that many, how many did it take to hijack those planes and crash them on September 11?

122 Ojoe  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:46:38am

re: #113 karmic_inquisitor

Piu nemiche piu honore


The more honor you have the more enemies you have

Italian

123 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:46:51am

re: #111 ploome hineni

he isn't fussy

Only when it comes to eating his waffles.

124 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:46:53am

re: #93 faraway

Sarkozy is sending his dog over to Obama

Heh.
That dog actually belongs to the former French President, Jacques Chirac...

Now I do wonder if Sarkozy put something into his food ...

125 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:47:02am

re: #112 WriterMom

I was going to say, there already is a b*tch at the White House.


Stop it! She is the new Jackie Kennedy. She is right?

126 Lee Coller  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:47:03am

The Dems will probably argue that being in Gitmo is what turned him to Jihad.

127 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:47:25am

re: #117 jcm

The military is not law enforcement. Rules of War, are different from the criminal legal process. Clinton made terror a legal issue and it culminated in 9/11. Bush made it a war and we've had no attacks. Obama is making it a legal process again. Next step..........

And it may not take 8 years this time. They've done a major strike on US soil once. They know, under the right conditions, they can do it again. Watch for Obama to be tested within the next few months.

128 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:47:33am
129 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:47:59am

re: #127 Honorary Yooper

And it may not take 8 years this time. They've done a major strike on US soil once. They know, under the right conditions, they can do it again. Watch for Obama to be tested within the next few months.

Biden promised.

130 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:48:01am
131 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:48:11am

re: #59 Honorary Yooper

Yes, Gitmo isn't a perfect solution, but this isn't a traditional war. Given the choice, though, most terrorist suspects would choose Gitmo over a torture room in Uzbekistan. I do think that Gitmo is one of the primary reasons we haven't had another attack on our soil.

132 Racer X  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:48:40am

"He seemed alright to me"
- Jeeves

133 pinecone  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:48:42am

I don't know why anyone would be surprised at this news. Closing Gitmo is a bad idea and we will pay for it sooner rather than later. Our enemies will see this for what it is, a sign of weakness and a slipping of our resolve.

What a shame!

134 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:48:49am

re: #117 jcm

The Obama is a lawyer, Clinton was a lawyer, they are ALL frakkin ACLU Ivy League lawyers, anything is possible.

135 Shug  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:49:00am

Close Gitmo.

outsource Gitmo prison to China. They know how to treat prisoners

136 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:49:04am

Coming soon from the Obamaton Collective (aka - the Obama Admin).

SmartHudna!

Not some namby pamby Hudna, but a smart one. With new fade effects and all sorts of cool shinyness.

Then, when we get attacked again we will get ... [drumroll] ...

SmartHudna 2.0!

Fistbumps all around!

137 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:49:04am

re: #42 jcm

Drop 'em in DC.....
Gang bangers will solve the problem.

I dunno about that...some of those gang bangers might convert to Islam!

138 Kragar  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:49:10am

re: #115 Land Shark

Oh joy! Think of the boost Al-Queda is gonna get when Obambi empties Guantanamo and releases all those murdering slime balls. That Hope and Change shit is gonna get plenty of innocent skilled.

And The One's new Brown Shirts, Organizing For America, can kiss my fat ass. And can't wait for one of those idiots to try to organize me.

"Comrade! I'm here for our Dear Leader. Care to make a donation?"

Sure, pal, now where did I put my .45?

Some 20 something dipshit was asking what people's pledges were for Obama around work.

I pledged not to submit. She just kind of stared blankly and walked away trying to figure it out.

139 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:49:10am

re: #127 Honorary Yooper

And it may not take 8 years this time. They've done a major strike on US soil once. They know, under the right conditions, they can do it again. Watch for Obama to be tested within the next few months.

Any attack will be Bush's fault because of his mideast policy.
////

140 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:49:26am
141 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:49:36am

re: #116 Occasional Reader

The creature most frequently accompanying Sarko is definitely not a dog.

Anything but, sir, anything but!

142 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:49:41am

re: #129 Sharmuta

Biden promised.

Biden is going to turn out to be a prophet of the obvious.

143 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:49:52am

re: #116 Occasional Reader

The "clinically depressed" thing cracks me up. How does one make the differential diagnosis for depression in dogs? Did the dog have a hard time with its mother? The nagging? The guilt-the unmet expectations? Does the dog not call enough?

144 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:49:53am

re: #137 Macker

I dunno about that...some of those gang bangers might convert to Islam!

I have a way of contacting the Hell's Angels...........

145 Ojoe  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:50:04am

re: #129 Sharmuta

IMHO it will be a hard to trace bio attack.

146 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:50:21am

re: #121 MandyManners

If anyone thinks that 10 per cent is not that many, how many did it take to hijack those planes and crash them on September 11?

BTW - If regular criminals have a 60% recidivism rate, and these folks are indoctrinated by their religion in the rightesouness of their cause, the 10% rate is likely a very lowball #.

147 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:50:21am

re: #117 jcm

The military is not law enforcement. Rules of War, are different from the criminal legal process. Clinton made terror a legal issue and it culminated in 9/11. Bush made it a war and we've had no attacks. Obama is making it a legal process again. Next step..........

The Lost City of [Pray to God it's not yours]

148 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:50:24am

re: #130 ploome hineni

delete that

I make stupid comment

Physical imperfections are tolerable, or even sometimes beautiful, in people we like.

In people we don't like - absolutely intolerable.

Your comment wasn't really about Michelle's physical imperfections - it was about your contempt for her.

149 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:50:38am

re: #114 vagabond trader

This kinder gentler approach to terror is exactly what led to WTC 1 and 2.Make no mistake that the Islamists are watching and smiling as our resolve to fight them diminishes before the eyes of the world.

terrorists have no respect for weakness. they exploit it unmercifully.
they are laughing at the o. they are thanking allah.

150 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:50:41am

re: #128 ploome hineni

flat footed

huge thighs

ugh


What was the Hillary joke about the KFC bucket?
Two small breasts
Two left wings
& two large thighs.
It is now the Miichelle/Hillary extra value meal.

151 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:50:42am

re: #138 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Some 20 something dipshit was asking what people's pledges were for Obama around work.

Good God.

Is anyone else reminded of the "Cultural Revolution"?

Do the liberals have even an inkling of how creepy they're being?

152 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:50:46am

re: #138 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I pledged not to submit

Works for me.

153 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:51:07am
154 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:51:16am

re: #143 WriterMom

The "clinically depressed" thing cracks me up. How does one make the differential diagnosis for depression in dogs? Did the dog have a hard time with its mother? The nagging? The guilt-the unmet expectations? Does the dog not call enough?

People spoil their dogs, just like they do with their kids.

And then any misbehavior is called "clinical depression" or something else.

155 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:51:22am

re: #128 ploome hineni

flat footed

huge thighs

ugh

Perpetual scowl. She's a fullback swathed in yellow drapery fabric. I simply don't get the comparisons to Jackie O.

156 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:51:26am

re: #141 yma o hyd

And wow, what a but!

157 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:51:35am

re: #149 nyc redneck

Exactly. They laugh at our generosity, our stupid Kafir mentality. Then they celebrate our deaths.

158 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:51:46am

re: #131 tackle

Yes, Gitmo isn't a perfect solution, but this isn't a traditional war. Given the choice, though, most terrorist suspects would choose Gitmo over a torture room in Uzbekistan. I do think that Gitmo is one of the primary reasons we haven't had another attack on our soil.

these guys should've been put in chains somewhere in Iraq and basically forgotten...the MSM should never had been allowed to get near them in the first palce...lesson learned but since there will never again be a battle field again that's a moot point

159 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:51:49am

re: #148 reine.de.tout

Physical imperfections are tolerable, or even sometimes beautiful, in people we like.

In people we don't like - absolutely intolerable.

Your comment wasn't really about Michelle's physical imperfections - it was about your contempt for her.

I think Ploomi's comment was more about Michelle's contempt for us.

160 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:52:00am
161 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:52:19am

re: #159 Nevergiveup

I think Ploomi's comment was more about Michelle's contempt for us.

Yes, you are probably absolutely correct.

162 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:52:22am

re: #154 reine.de.tout

Can you spell p r o j e c t i o n? I knew you could.

163 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:52:36am
164 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:52:59am

re: #130 ploome hineni

delete that

I make stupid comment

no, don't delete it.
roflmao.
funny.
not stupid.

165 Kragar  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:53:01am

re: #162 WriterMom

Can you spell p r o j e c t i o n? I knew you could.

projekshun

166 big steve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:53:11am

ha......ha.......Kos is gearing up his criticism Incorporated

Conservatives trusted Bush, thus let them destroy their party. I don't think it's smart to go down that path. There will always be debates about how much criticism is actually warranted, and there's a fine line between constructive and destructive criticisms. Sometimes we'll even disagree on the merits! (Like the TARP bailout.) So yeah, we'll all be feeling our way through this new minefield over the coming years. But the notion that Obama is beyond criticism?

You see when one is on the left and made yourself know as a crybaby lefty well what do you do when you are actually in power......just like newspapers need circulation to survive, blog sites need hits. The way to get hits and get redirected to is criticisim.

167 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:53:17am

re: #147 Macker

The Lost City of [Pray to God it's not yours]

What's the floor for BHO to react.
1,000?
10,000?
100,000?
1,000,000?

168 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:53:22am

re: #151 Occasional Reader

Good God.

Is anyone else reminded of the "Cultural Revolution"?

Do the liberals have even an inkling of how creepy they're being?

Did you read the bit about Starbuck's getting into the act of recruiting volunteers in exchange for a drink?

169 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:53:39am

re: #72 jorline

None that I can see on the horizon.
*sigh*

Did the Obama's get their new dog yet?

I would make a remark about taking Chrac's poodle, but...

170 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:53:40am

Come on, buzzsaw, do it....

"...from a gang called Lizaddz With Attitudes..."

171 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:53:47am

17:04 Five militants dead in suspected U.S. strikes in Pakistan (Reuters)

Gee a week ago it would have been 5 Innocent victims of American Running Dog Imperialism?

172 Ojoe  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:01am

re: #167 jcm

10,000 IMHO

173 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:05am

re: #138 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Some 20 something dipshit was asking what people's pledges were for Obama around work.

I pledge to be a dissenter. Oh, and I pledge to the flag.

174 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:10am

re: #165 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

You're so dumbucated! U R KEWL!

175 KibbyKat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:14am

re: #155 Daisy

Perpetual scowl. She's a fullback swathed in yellow drapery fabric. I simply don't get the comparisons to Jackie O.

The First Yeti

176 gop_patriot  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:17am

re: #138 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Some 20 something dipshit was asking what people's pledges were for Obama around work.

I pledged not to submit. She just kind of stared blankly and walked away trying to figure it out.

Oh, BARF.

And good on you! I hope that more people speak up and challenge the 0cultists when they automatically assume that everyone in their presence is a follower of the 0ne.

177 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:23am

re: #145 Ojoe

Hopefully if that's the weapon, they'll have a major on the job accident, just like with the recent plague outbreak in Algeria.

178 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:35am

re: #151 Occasional Reader

Good God.

Is anyone else reminded of the "Cultural Revolution"?

Do the liberals have even an inkling of how creepy they're being?

No, and nor do they care. They don't see it as creepy, just as what they believe is right. They believe a "Cultural Revolution" is just what we need. And if you do not submit to them, then you are an evil person because you hold bad ideas.

Contrast that with conservatives who generally believe people are good, it's the ideas that are bad.

179 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:59am
180 Maximu§  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:07am

Who are the law firms that fought for their release?

181 dhg4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:11am

BTW, a couple of months ago the NYT had an article about one of those rehabilitation programs.

182 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:18am

re: #88 opnion

My absolute favorite is the guy who got picked up from a battlefield in Afghanistan & claimed that he was just on vacation.

I guess that's the last time he'll book with Jihad Tours.

183 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:21am

re: #143 WriterMom

The "clinically depressed" thing cracks me up. How does one make the differential diagnosis for depression in dogs? Did the dog have a hard time with its mother? The nagging? The guilt-the unmet expectations? Does the dog not call enough?

He got too big/fat to sit on Chiracs or his wife's lap and was kicked off?

Gah - nothing worse than people treating their dogs as if they were 'little people in fur coats'!
They're house wolves!

184 debutaunt  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:26am

re: #5 turn

Oh, I'll have to go check dKos and Huffpo to find out just why this is all Bush's fault.

/

Quote of the day from Pamela: "This is an frickin' nightmare."

185 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:38am

re: #167 jcm

What's the floor for BHO to react.
1,000?
10,000?
100,000?
1,000,000?

He will merely vote "Present."

186 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:43am
187 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:44am

re: #151 Occasional Reader

Good God.

Is anyone else reminded of the "Cultural Revolution"?

Do the liberals have even an inkling of how creepy they're being?

Pledging to a man, a cult of personality.
Such men in positions of real power, it seldom if every has a happy ending.

188 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:51am

re: #131 tackle

Yes, Gitmo isn't a perfect solution, but this isn't a traditional war. Given the choice, though, most terrorist suspects would choose Gitmo over a torture room in Uzbekistan. I do think that Gitmo is one of the primary reasons we haven't had another attack on our soil.

Do you recall the famous photo of the South Vietnamese officer executing a spy with a gunshot head shot?
He was well wthin the Geneva Conventions.
We would be well within our rights if we lined up all of them at Gitmo & shot them, they are ununiformed , stateless terrorists.
Instead we give them Fruit Loops, praye rugs, Korans & chicken McNuggets & yet we are compared to Nazis.

189 Kragar  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:55:54am

re: #167 jcm

What's the floor for BHO to react.
1,000?
10,000?
100,000?
1,000,000?

That depends. If we can space the casualties out over a long enough period of time, then Barry can ignore the threat completely. Its only when the numbers spike that politicians seem compelled to act.

190 big steve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:56:05am

re: #155 Daisy

Perpetual scowl. She's a fullback swathed in yellow drapery fabric.

ROFLOL.....great.....makes me wish I had more than one upding to give you.

191 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:56:06am

Damn, Cato.

192 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:56:08am

Note that the NYT report, on which this is based, claims that only a few Gitmo detainees have ended up in the jihad, and few if any have gone on to leadership positions.

Memo to NYT.

All it takes is one to lead a jihad cell. All it takes is one jihadi to convince 19 others to carry out the worst mass murdering terror attack in human history.

The NYT however, is also providing cover to Obama when he eventually realizes that Gitmo cannot be closed because doing so would put the nation at risk. The Times has known for a long time that terrorists have been released from Gitmo and gone on to carry out other attacks. Other media outlets have reported as much.

The executive orders issued by President Obama all come with expiration dates, which like everything else Obama has done in his career, shows that he'll stick his finger in the air and vote present.

Obama has continued the Bush practices on waterboarding and detainee treatment, regardless of what the left or Obama claims. Studying the problem gives him an out to continue the same practices. He's given a year before Gitmo is 'closed' despite the fact that no one has a viable alternative. Not even Rep Mad Murtha has a plan. These people think that solitary confinement or force feeding terrorists who engage in hunger strikes is akin to torture.

193 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:56:23am

re: #168 MandyManners

Did you read the bit about Starbuck's getting into the act of recruiting volunteers in exchange for a drink?

The Marching Mocha Brigades... coming soon to your city!

194 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:56:59am

re: #173 tackle

I pledge to be a dissenter. Oh, and I pledge to the flag.

I pledge to insist that Obama faithfully serve us, the people.

195 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:57:15am

re: #188 opnion


Instead we give them Fruit Loops, praye rugs, Korans & chicken McNuggets & yet we are compared to Nazis.

.....and that criticism comes from a US Senator.

196 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:57:46am

re: #168 MandyManners

Memo to self: Find a replacement for Starbucks whole bean French Roast.

197 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:57:46am
198 jaunte  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:57:49am

Headline at Huffpo, while other possibly more important things are happening in the world:

PALIN'S $180,000 WARDROBE "IN TRASH BAGS"

PDS claims more idiots daily.

199 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:57:52am

re: #186 ploome hineni

161 reine.de.tout
159 Nevergiveup

contempt?

whachewtakinabout

/

ARGH!
Now, that's contempt!

For all of us! And toward the new Pres, too, actually.

Fox News had several e-mails from black audience members who were totally dumbfounded and shocked at that.

200 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:57:53am

re: #163 ploome hineni

hahahahaha

/I needed that

The pleasure be all mine.

201 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:57:56am

Later.

202 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:58:02am

re: #182 Kosh's Shadow

I guess that's the last time he'll book with Jihad Tours.

Imagine if the Love Boat was taken over by Jihadis.

203 samhein  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:58:02am

My Dad (ex MP) has talked first hand with some who worked at Gitmo. Some VERY dangerous "people" there, to say the least. Unfortunatly, the MSM only gives part of the story.....as usual. These detainees should remain detainees. Obama has to be out of his freakin' mind!

204 Kragar  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:58:08am

re: #190 big steve

ROFLOL.....great.....makes me wish I had more than one upding to give you.

Best line I saw about her dress. "It looks like she gutted and skinned her sofa."

205 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:58:10am

re: #195 DeafDog

Ah, the Illinois Nazi.

206 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:58:35am

re: #194 Occasional Reader

I pledge to insist that Obama faithfully serve us, the people.

and when he refuses then what?....insist harder?

207 Racer X  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:58:43am

0bama is once again making promises he does not intend to keep. He is pandering to the left. I doubt Gitmo will close. The prisoners may get shuffled around but we will still catch bad guys. What happens to them is the question.

I know what I would do.

208 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:58:47am

re: #153 ploome hineni
Indeed, former LGFer reaganite said that ANY bomb can be traced back to it's point of origin, even to where the various components came from. And since he served with AF Bomb Squad (and frequently worked with the USSS in guarding Presidents) I tend to believe him.

209 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:59:05am
210 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:59:07am

Less than a week in, and already he's signed a momentous mistake.

It really sucks to have no faith in the leader of the US.

211 Macker  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:59:11am

re: #202 MandyManners

Imagine if the Love Boat was taken over by Jihadis.

Then it would be the Hate Boat.

212 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:59:14am

re: #194 Occasional Reader

I pledge to insist that Obama faithfully serve us, the people.

I pledge to bitterly cling.......
//////

I swore and oath a long time ago, to protect and defend the Constitution. For me the oath didn't expire on the date on my DD-214.

213 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:59:28am

re: #195 DeafDog

.....and that criticism comes from a US Senator.

The Senior Senator of Illinois Is named Richard, but I prefer to think of him as a Dick.

214 J.S.  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:59:40am

re: #126 Lee Coller

You mean you haven't heard the Leftists screams that, after all, it's Gitmo which causes Arabs to become terrorists? (as I laugh -- that "argument" was recently aired on CNN -- again -- and it was stated as if this were "common knowledge" and something which everybody "just knows.").

215 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:59:50am

re: #187 jcm

Pledging to a man, a cult of personality.
Such men in positions of real power, it seldom if every has a happy ending.

It usually ends very bad. See Germany 1945, Jonestown 1978, and others for reference.

216 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:59:58am

re: #188 opnion

Just like Israel and the IDF are being compared to them - its good company to be in, if ye ask me!

217 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:00:00am

re: #183 yma o hyd

If I was expected to sit on that Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey Palestinian Lover's lap, I'd be clinically depressed, too. I'm with the dog on this one.

218 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:00:07am
219 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:00:17am

re: #193 Occasional Reader

The Marching Mocha Brigades... coming soon to your city!

With their latte-swilling, wanna'-be Eurotrash.

220 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:00:47am

I pledge to attempt legal subversion of every lunatic leftist scheme proposed by these nutbags. Busy times ahead.

221 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:00:50am

re: #183 yma o hyd

He got too big/fat to sit on Chiracs or his wife's lap and was kicked off?

Gah - nothing worse than people treating their dogs as if they were 'little people in fur coats'!
They're house wolves!

Well, one of my house wolves likes to sit on the couch next to me and lean on me like she's my girlfriend. (We're talking a 50 lb standard poodle) Fortunately, my wife doesn't mind.

222 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:01:08am

re: #151 Occasional Reader

Good God.

Is anyone else reminded of the "Cultural Revolution"?

Do the liberals have even an inkling of how creepy they're being?

Have you caught the cover of the current New Yorker? It depicts an artistically enhanced Obama in a George Washington (!) wig. The enhancement replaced O's enigmatic - or better, sly secretive - smile w/strong character. It's a portrait that would make a painter Mao or of Jihadist 'martyrs' proud. Cultural Revolution indeed.

223 right_wing2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:01:16am

Impossible! With the Obamessiah, the entire world loves us again. Terrorists are supposed to give up their ways and plant flowers. The Joooooosss (or is that 'the Juice'?) will lie down and let 'Palestinians' run them over.

224 solomonpanting  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:01:16am

re: #188 opnion

Do you recall the famous photo of the South Vietnamese officer executing a spy with a gunshot head shot?
He was well wthin the Geneva Conventions.
We would be well within our rights if we lined up all of them at Gitmo & shot them, they are ununiformed , stateless terrorists.
Instead we give them Fruit Loops, praye rugs, Korans & chicken McNuggets & yet we are compared to Nazis.

I'll have to alert the Nutrition Police for subjecting these poor souls to "sugar highs", AKA the Twinkie Diet.

225 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:01:25am

re: #149 nyc redneck
Indeed. Just keep on remembering folks: Under George W. Bush we had NO TERRORIST ATTACKS on the US since 9/11. NONE.
Let's hope and pray that Obama can meet that standard for the next four years.
But don't go betting on it.

226 DeafDog  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:01:31am

re: #192 lawhawk

Note that the NYT report, on which this is based, claims that only a few Gitmo detainees have ended up in the jihad, and few if any have gone on to leadership positions.

Guys, there is no way for the NYT to get that info and if you think that only 10% are returning to Jihad, you are crazy. What did they do, call the terrorists to ask them if they were still hell bent on destroying the US and they said 'no.'

In the US - 60% of criminals return to their former way of life.

With these Gitmo guys, everyone will.

I guauantee it.

/The Men's store

227 dhg4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:01:34am

re: #192 lawhawk

Note that the NYT report, on which this is based, claims that only a few Gitmo detainees have ended up in the jihad, and few if any have gone on to leadership positions.

Memo to NYT.

All it takes is one to lead a jihad cell. All it takes is one jihadi to convince 19 others to carry out the worst mass murdering terror attack in human history.

The NYT however, is also providing cover to Obama when he eventually realizes that Gitmo cannot be closed because doing so would put the nation at risk. The Times has known for a long time that terrorists have been released from Gitmo and gone on to carry out other attacks. Other media outlets have reported as much.

The executive orders issued by President Obama all come with expiration dates, which like everything else Obama has done in his career, shows that he'll stick his finger in the air and vote present.

Obama has continued the Bush practices on waterboarding and detainee treatment, regardless of what the left or Obama claims. Studying the problem gives him an out to continue the same practices. He's given a year before Gitmo is 'closed' despite the fact that no one has a viable alternative. Not even Rep Mad Murtha has a plan. These people think that solitary confinement or force feeding terrorists who engage in hunger strikes is akin to torture.

Still I think it's better the WaPo article I blogged about that didn't even entertain the possiblity that there was a risk to releasing potential jihadis.

228 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:01:36am

re: #205 Macker

Ah, the Illinois Nazi.

Yep, Senator Dickhead Durbin.

229 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:02:00am

re: #196 vagabond trader

Memo to self: Find a replacement for Starbucks whole bean French Roast.

Try this, or any of their other blends.

230 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:02:03am

re: #212 jcm

I pledge to bitterly cling.......
//////

I swore and oath a long time ago, to protect and defend the Constitution. For me the oath didn't expire on the date on my DD-214.

you might want to find some high ground and start collecting sandbags....if they catch you in the open you're gonna be swept away....bad moon risin dude

231 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:02:26am

re: #157 WriterMom

Exactly. They laugh at our generosity, our stupid Kafir mentality. Then they celebrate our deaths.

the o has no idea what we are talking abt.
what the dangers are w/ these savages.
how gruesome will it have to get before he understands that they love to chop off heads.
that we are dealing w/ monsters even he, the lightworker, won't be able to reach w/ his magnificent powers of enlightenment.

232 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:02:29am

re: #202 MandyManners

Imagine if the Love Boat was taken over by Jihadis.

Well, the Achille Lauro was.

233 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:02:37am

re: #190 big steve

ROFLOL.....great.....makes me wish I had more than one upding to give you.

Why, thank you.

234 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:02:38am

re: #216 yma o hyd

Just like Israel and the IDF are being compared to them - its good company to be in, if ye ask me!

UN Secretary General Moon expressed shock & Outrage at the destruction in Gaza caused by Israel.
I never heard his outrage when Hamas was lobbing rockets int Israel, not one time.

235 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:02:59am

re: #167 jcm

What's the floor for BHO to react.
1,000?
10,000?
100,000?
1,000,000?


If it is a red state it aint gonna happen
Blue state ?Depends on which one

236 Kragar  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:03:05am

Apparently Barry doesn't feel like answering questions from the Press anymore, he just wants the adulation of the masses.

Obama flashes irritation in press room

President Obama made a surprise visit to the White House press corps Thursday night, but got agitated when he was faced with a substantive question.

Asked how he could reconcile a strict ban on lobbyists in his administration with a Deputy Defense Secretary nominee who lobbied for Raytheon, Obama interrupted with a knowing smile on his face.

"Ahh, see," he said, "I came down here to visit. See this is what happens. I can't end up visiting with you guys and shaking hands if I'm going to get grilled every time I come down here."

Pressed further by the Politico reporter about his Pentagon nominee, William J. Lynn III, Obama turned more serious, putting his hand on the reporter's shoulder and staring him in the eye.

"Alright, come on" he said, with obvious irritation in his voice. "We will be having a press conference at which time you can feel free to [ask] questions. Right now, I just wanted to say hello and introduce myself to you guys - that's all I was trying to do."

The president was quickly saved by a cameraman in the room who called out: “I’d like to say it one more time: ‘Mr. President.’ ”

237 snowcrash  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:03:22am

Where would the prisoners go until the tribunals are set up? Levenworth is the only big military prison I can think of. Symbolic change for world opinion.

238 Maximu§  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:03:30am

I, Barack Hussen Obama Swear to uphold the rights of captured terrorists all over the world, even if they have our soldiers blood on their hands.

I swear they will be given pillow-top mattress's, Plasma TV's, excercise rooms, a Mosque, better food than our soldiers eat and full access to NY Law Firms who represent them.

I swear to compensate them for their treatment and I invite them to NYC to see what good people we are.

/

239 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:03:32am

re: #199 reine.de.tout

Now they are shocked at their own cultural "icons"? Where have they been the last 20 years? Can just imagine The Obama watching this idiot, nodding his head, tapping the foot.

240 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:03:32am

re: #196 vagabond trader

Memo to self: Find a replacement for Starbucks whole bean French Roast.

Make it at home and buy a Thermos ® ?

241 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:03:38am

re: #171 Nevergiveup
Shissh! They are prepping us for the Obama's invasion of another sovereign nation - and one with nuclear weapons at that!

242 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:03:39am

We now have a surrealist government. I wonder if Salvador Dali ever envisioned using a society as a canvas...he used every other medium he could get his hands on. I think we're looking at "Hallucinogenic Toreador", reinterpreted in the (not so) new craft, the art medium...our nation. The enlightened ones in academia and pop media have been sculpting their work for decades now.

I would have preferred a less postmodern, less surreal result.

243 J.S.  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:03:50am

re: #126 Lee Coller

Basically, it's what William Ayers was always claiming -- that locking up criminals causes the crime rates to increase...(now that's PhD material!)

244 jaunte  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:04:03am

re: #192 lawhawk

Note that the NYT report, on which this is based, claims that only a few Gitmo detainees have ended up in the jihad, and few if any have gone on to leadership positions.


That's like saying was only one Bernard Madoff.

245 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:04:04am

re: #217 WriterMom

If I was expected to sit on that Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey Palestinian Lover's lap, I'd be clinically depressed, too. I'm with the dog on this one.

So am I - and I have the sneaking suspicion that Madame Chirac is not too unhappy about this either ...

246 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:04:31am

re: #237 snowcrash

Where would the prisoners go until the tribunals are set up? Levenworth is the only big military prison I can think of. Symbolic change for world opinion.

Three being considered are Charlston, SC, Camp Pendelton, and Fort Levenworth.

247 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:04:43am

re: #221 Kosh's Shadow

Well, one of my house wolves likes to sit on the couch next to me and lean on me like she's my girlfriend. (We're talking a 50 lb standard poodle) Fortunately, my wife doesn't mind.

Our 3 cats sleep around my wife like watch cats and will not let me anywhere near.

248 jaunte  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:04:46am

there

249 WriterMom  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:04:58am

re: #231 nyc redneck

Exactly. But as we know-he is not alone. The barbarity-actually comprehending the nature of this savage enemy is too distasteful for many. They are the ones who believe that the bomber will ask them how they voted before exploding himself, or slitting our throats and cutting off our heads. The dellusion is not just dangerous for America, or the Jews or Israel but to the whole world and our way of life. It's hard sometimes not to be utterly obsessed by this.

250 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:05:22am

re: #229 reine.de.tout

Thanks, looks yummy, and less $$ then Starbucks.

251 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:05:22am

re: #138 Kragar (proud to be kafir) Serious question here: WTH did she mean about peoples' pledges to Obama? He works (supposedly) for US, what the hell did she mean?!

252 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:05:24am

re: #188 opnion

Do you recall the famous photo of the South Vietnamese officer executing a spy with a gunshot head shot?
He was well wthin the Geneva Conventions.
We would be well within our rights if we lined up all of them at Gitmo & shot them, they are ununiformed , stateless terrorists.
Instead we give them Fruit Loops, praye rugs, Korans & chicken McNuggets & yet we are compared to Nazis.

I told that to a moonbat co-worker. Was went figgin' ballistic. Funnier than hell. When I told him later Gen. Loan moved to the US and opened a restaurant he had a melt down.

Eddie Adam's discusses the picture.

Youtube Video
253 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:05:27am

re: #225 realwest

Indeed. Just keep on remembering folks: Under George W. Bush we had NO TERRORIST ATTACKS on the US since 9/11. NONE.
Let's hope and pray that Obama can meet that standard for the next four years.
But don't go betting on it.

Related - let's also remember that under the Bush administration, planned attacks were thwarted. Obama's need to please his imaginary betters seriously endangers us all.

254 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:05:34am
255 astronmr20  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:05:39am

re: #236 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Apparently Barry doesn't feel like answering questions from the Press anymore, he just wants the adulation of the masses.

Obama flashes irritation in press room

Notice how one member of the press corps couldn't help from slobbering all over himself by shouting calls to Obama and how much he loved him.

...and it took politico- a non-MSM news website- to ask him a tough question.

That poor sod can forget about being called on in pressers. Ever. Might as well turn in his credentials.

256 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:05:54am

re: #250 vagabond trader

Thanks, looks yummy, and less $$ then Starbucks.

Read the reviews - from all over.

257 solomonpanting  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:06:01am

"Return to Gitmo" to the tune of "Return to Sender"

258 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:06:25am

re: #221 Kosh's Shadow

Well, one of my house wolves likes to sit on the couch next to me and lean on me like she's my girlfriend. (We're talking a 50 lb standard poodle) Fortunately, my wife doesn't mind.

Nice!
As good as a nearly 50 lb Border Collie trying to hide under my sweater whenever there was a thunderstorm (the sweater was actually on me at that time ...!) - mind, it does save on heating bills!

259 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:06:30am

re: #224 solomonpanting

I'll have to alert the Nutrition Police for subjecting these poor souls to "sugar highs", AKA the Twinkie Diet.

I believe that I read that on average the detainees have gained about 20 lbs. That's more than college freshmen gain.

260 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:06:40am

re: #237 snowcrash

Where would the prisoners go until the tribunals are set up? Levenworth is the only big military prison I can think of. Symbolic change for world opinion.

Where is that place Martha Stewart went?

261 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:06:44am

re: #180 Maximu§ Better question, who are the judges that said yes?

262 Pyrocles  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:06:46am

The Maoist portraits of Obama that have been haunting us for a long time now are one of the most frightening things about him, imo. The non-Obama artwork of the artist who created them is creepy, also. Even at Obama's coronation, he's surrounded by artsy pictures of "himself". Remember how Saddam's picture was plastered all over Iraq? It's a common theme of dictators...

re: #222 Daisy

Have you caught the cover of the current New Yorker? It depicts an artistically enhanced Obama in a George Washington (!) wig. The enhancement replaced O's enigmatic - or better, sly secretive - smile w/strong character. It's a portrait that would make a painter Mao or of Jihadist 'martyrs' proud. Cultural Revolution indeed.

263 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:06:55am

re: #243 J.S.

Basically, it's what William Ayers was always claiming -- that locking up criminals causes the crime rates to increase...(now that's PhD material!)

That's like fucking for virginity.

264 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:07:11am

re: #247 Nevergiveup

My sweet gentle 14 pound red ex tomcat gets agitated when my hubby gets in bed with us. It's hilarious to see, he acts out like a spoiled child.

265 Kragar  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:07:13am

re: #251 realwest

Serious question here: WTH did she mean about peoples' pledges to Obama? He works (supposedly) for US, what the hell did she mean?!

That stupid celebrity pledge video asking what you pledge to do for the new President. Its socialist propaganda to glorify the new Messiah.

266 MrSilverDragon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:07:31am

So, is Obama gonna close Supermax in Colorado next? I wouldn't be surprised.

267 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:08:02am

re: #116 Occasional Reader

The creature most frequently accompanying Sarko is definitely not a dog.

Is she his wife, or mistress, or the woman he's seeing behind his mistress's back? I forget how things work over there.

268 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:08:11am

re: #254 buzzsawmonkey

No chain gangs? No "tough love" camps like Sheriff Joe runs?

Bologna isn't halal.

269 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:08:16am

re: #266 MrSilverDragon

So, is Obama gonna close Supermax in Colorado next? I wouldn't be surprised.

Only if someone tells him about it. Shush.

270 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:08:37am

re: #212 jcm

Yanno what, I did a year of ROTC, that's it. I never stood and swore that oath, but, I did Pledge allegiance to the flag all through school, did last night at a scout meeting, and that, to me, is my promise to my fellow citizens that I will uphold and defend the constitution.
Do I regret not serving? Sure I do, I think many of us who turned 18 in the '80's regret it, but that is the past. Now, I do what I can with my voice my pen, my keyboard.

The constitution is still the document that binds us, we just need to educate our children on what it actually says. We can no longer allow the left to set the agenda, we must go on an education offensive, one way or another.

271 lawhawk  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:08:51am

re: #254 buzzsawmonkey

Youtube Video
272 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:09:04am

Gold up sharply today.

Ironically, it was democrats who got us unto the gold standard in the first place.

273 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:09:32am

re: #265 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I used to like the Chili Peppers too. Oh, well. There'll be better, less insipid funk rock, by musicians who don't bow to the Party, and I'll find it.

274 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:09:35am

re: #234 opnion

UN Secretary General Moon expressed shock & Outrage at the destruction in Gaza caused by Israel.
I never heard his outrage when Hamas was lobbing rockets int Israel, not one time.

Nor did I hear any shock or outrage from him about Zimbabwe, DR Congo, Darfur, Sri Lanka ...

I loathe him and the Un from the bottom of my soul for the perversion they have allowed to take place in the minds of people and nations.

275 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:09:40am

re: #212 jcm Or the dates on our respective Honorable Discharges either.

276 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:09:42am

And Franken lost in court
Haha

277 snowcrash  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:10:07am

re: #260 Nevergiveup
That was hard labor! Martha had to wash floors and rake leaves./

278 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:10:24am

re: #266 MrSilverDragon

So, is Obama gonna close Supermax in Colorado next? I wouldn't be surprised.

I useta' know one of the guards. The tales he could tell...! There are some people in there who should never see the light of day again. Unspeakable sadists.

279 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:10:30am

re: #213 opnion
"The Senior Senator of Illinois Is named Richard, but I prefer to think of him as a Dick."
Well, it's sure appropriate!

280 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:10:43am

re: #276 ThinkRight

And Franken lost in court
Haha

WHAT?

281 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:10:53am

re: #276 ThinkRight

And Franken lost in court
Haha

Well just this initial round.

282 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:10:54am

re: #270 Stonemason

Yanno what, I did a year of ROTC, that's it. I never stood and swore that oath, but, I did Pledge allegiance to the flag all through school, did last night at a scout meeting, and that, to me, is my promise to my fellow citizens that I will uphold and defend the constitution.
Do I regret not serving? Sure I do, I think many of us who turned 18 in the '80's regret it, but that is the past. Now, I do what I can with my voice my pen, my keyboard.

The constitution is still the document that binds us, we just need to educate our children on what it actually says. We can no longer allow the left to set the agenda, we must go on an education offensive, one way or another.

Well said, well said.

283 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:11:04am

re: #247 Nevergiveup

Our 3 cats sleep around my wife like watch cats and will not let me anywhere near.

'Watch cats' - I love it!

284 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:11:22am

re: #217 WriterMom
Wish I could give ya more than one upding for that one!

285 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:11:24am

re: #274 yma o hyd

Nor did I hear any shock or outrage from him about Zimbabwe, DR Congo, Darfur, Sri Lanka ...

I loathe him and the Un from the bottom of my soul for the perversion they have allowed to take place in the minds of people and nations.


Yet the U.Nwants more & more cash.

286 GoIllini  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:11:24am

Just goes to show, you can take the terrorist out of a jihad, but you can't take the jihad out of a terrorist.

287 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:11:27am

re: #155 Daisy

Perpetual scowl. She's a fullback swathed in yellow drapery fabric. I simply don't get the comparisons to Jackie O.

the msm is pushing this. obviously she is not fit to be first lady, based on the nasty, ungracious, negative anti-american rhetoric that she spewed on the campaign trail.
which is why they muzzled her.
her harsh and unattractive looks match her personality.
comparing her to jackie o is ridiculous. where is the grace, charm and dignified bearing?
sasquatch is more like jackie o than she is.

288 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:11:49am

re: #280 MandyManners

WHAT?

Frankin tried to get it thrown out of court. They refused to dismiss the case.

289 opnion  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:11:52am

re: #279 realwest

"The Senior Senator of Illinois Is named Richard, but I prefer to think of him as a Dick."
Well, it's sure appropriate!

Hey Real!

290 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:12:13am

re: #234 opnion

UN Secretary General Moon expressed shock & Outrage at the destruction in Gaza caused by Israel.
I never heard his outrage when Hamas was lobbing rockets int Israel, not one time.

Ban Ki Moonbat.
He wasn't quite this bad when he started, but he's being infected with the UN brain rot.
We need Bolton back there.

291 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:12:17am

re: #276 ThinkRight

And Franken lost in court
Haha

What? What? Oh, please a linky?

292 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:12:34am
293 SFGoth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:12:39am

re: #264 vagabond trader

My sweet gentle 14 pound red ex tomcat gets agitated when my hubby gets in bed with us. It's hilarious to see, he acts out like a spoiled child.

My 15# stray tabby hopped in bed the first time my then-gf came to visit from Bulgaria. Damn cat wouldn't get off the bed, jumped back on when I took him off it, clawed at the door to get back into the room when I put him in the hall, and I finally had to throw him out of the house. Thing is, he's way friendlier and easy-going then the ugly, creamsickle-resembling Persian bitch she got (to her chagrin). Another time she was visiting me for several months and Toonses developed an abscess. So even though he's not mine, I spent $2,500 on vet care, including surgery. A few weeks after that, just after he got the cone off (boy did he hate that AND he hated having to spend 3 weeks in the house) he got out while still not quite healed and Maria gave me grief. I told her that he'll be back soon when he gets hungry. That night I heard a scratching at the front door and as I got up to open it, she bolted upright and said, "It's Toonses! It's Toonses!". I just calmly remarked, "yes dear, I'm going to let him in." He's a beautiful cat -- big and lean, huge eyes, slight underbite. Loves people; hates dogs and stuffed Siberian tigers. ;->

294 right_wing2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:12:41am

re: #246 lawhawk

Three being considered are Charlston, SC, Camp Pendelton, and Fort Levenworth.

Great. Just what I need 170 miles or so away. (Leavenworth)

295 ThinkRight  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:12:54am

Your text to link...re: #280 MandyManners

WHAT?

Al Franken’s effort to block Norm Coleman’s lawsuit over the U.S. Senate recount was rejected Thursday by a three-judge panel, setting the stage for a trial to begin Monday on the Republican’s claims.

296 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:12:55am

re: #275 realwest

Or the dates on our respective Honorable Discharges either.

Still waiting for J F'n K's too.

297 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:13:14am

re: #241 realwest

Shissh! They are prepping us for the Obama's invasion of another sovereign nation - and one with nuclear weapons at that!

Pakistan or Israel?

298 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:13:14am

re: #292 buzzsawmonkey

It must be--how many suicide bombers have bologna up?

*groan*

299 Stonemason  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:13:20am

re: #292 buzzsawmonkey

As much as it hurt, I had to ding ya for that one

300 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:13:24am

re: #272 unreconstructed rebel

Gold up sharply today.

Ironically, it was democrats who got us unto the gold standard in the first place.

That's news to me. Gold and silver standards were pretty much the norm until the 20th Century. It was a Democrat who got us off the gold standard, another who set up the Bretton Woods system (which was gold-based), and a Republican (Nixon) who ended the fixed prices for gold, thus ending the Bretton Woods system.

301 VioletTiger  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:13:26am

re: #236 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Didn't they accept 'present'? They'll be getting a lot of that.

302 right_wing2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:13:34am

re: #279 realwest

"The Senior Senator of Illinois Is named Richard, but I prefer to think of him as a Dick."
Well, it's sure appropriate!

'Turban' Durban

303 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:13:35am

re: #267 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Is she his wife, or mistress, or the woman he's seeing behind his mistress's back? I forget how things work over there.

She married him - after he divorced is wife, natch ...

304 hazzyday  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:13:50am

I wouldn't be surprised if PRes Obama offers the Al Quaida folks jobs as interns at the whitehouse.

305 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:14:31am

re: #236 Kragar (proud to be kafir) Well hell, Kragar, he thought - with good reason - that he was among friends and supporters!

306 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:14:49am
307 yma o hyd  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:15:16am

re: #290 Kosh's Shadow

Ban Ki Moonbat.
He wasn't quite this bad when he started, but he's being infected with the UN brain rot.
We need Bolton back there.

Under this lot?
No effen chance!

308 Daisy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:15:46am

re: #287 nyc redneck

".. obviously she is not fit to be first lady.." She might be "first", but she's not a lady.

309 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:16:08am

re: #246 lawhawk I wonder why not Marion? Oh, wait, that's in Illinois, isn't it.
nevermind.

310 brookly red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:16:15am

return to jihad? that would mean that they had left jihad in the first place...

311 SFGoth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:16:15am

I'm proud of my 12 years reserve service, esp. the 3-ish years I spent as a signal platoon leader in the Mass. Nat. Guard. Part of that time I was a 1st Looey, which I think is kind of a cool rank in the sense that it was clear I wasn't born yesterday but I wasn't a CPT so I didn't have so much extra responsibility.

312 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:16:16am

re: #293 SFGoth

Holy cats, 2500 bucks, you do love this big guy! Never ever close a door on a cat. It's like a challenge. I had a big stripey who could sit there and yowl piteously until it was opened.Strays and throwaways are the best cats or dogs.

313 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:16:35am

re: #304 hazzyday

I wouldn't be surprised if PRes Obama offers the Al Quaida folks jobs as interns at the whitehouse.

At least they won't be paid. Then they'd still count as volunteers.

314 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:16:40am

re: #248 jaunte
Where?

315 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:18:56am
316 SFGoth  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:19:06am

re: #312 vagabond trader

Holy cats, 2500 bucks, you do love this big guy! Never ever close a door on a cat. It's like a challenge. I had a big stripey who could sit there and yowl piteously until it was opened.Strays and throwaways are the best cats or dogs.

To know Toonses is to love Toonses. Every gothchick that comes by the house falls in love with him. I show people pictures of him sleeping or lying around and they melt. No way I could stand to see him suffer and probably die, esp. since I've been his bitch since '04. He can be a pain though when he wakes me up at 0-dark 30 to be let out. When it's raining, he hesitates on the porch and then bolts back into the house. What a pussy. ;->

317 right_wing2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:19:23am

re: #313 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

At least they won't be paid. Then they'd still count as volunteers.

No no. They'd get the raises that the Chosen One isn't giving anyone else. Plus education benefits. Poverty and lack of education is why they hate us.

/////////

318 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:19:27am

re: #304 hazzyday

I wouldn't be surprised if PRes Obama offers the Al Quaida folks jobs as interns at the whitehouse.

Better, at the Department of Homeland Security.

319 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:20:25am

re: #249 WriterMom
Indeed - three weeks after 9/11 I got into my first physical "confrontation" in 30 years with a sonofabitch who said "Well we need to try to understand their motivation for those incidents" [note: not attacks, incidents]. Told him the truth - we have NOTHING to learn from those psychotic jihadist's at all. All they want to do is kill and there is no real "thinking" for us to understand.
The, uh, disagreement quickly escalated from there.

320 XMarine  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:21:28am

re: #283 yma o hyd

Watch cat. Yeah, they work. My friend in Edmonton had one. A burglar broke into his apartment at about 0300 Ack Emma while he was asleep. His cat was also asleep - on top of the refrigerator, where he had a height advantage over the poor burglar who suffered numerous lacerations and deep bites on his scalp.

My friend put up a sign on his lawn, "Watch Rabbit on Duty." Why he converted his ball-bearing mousetrap into a rabbit, I will never know.

321 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:21:36am

re: #253 Daisy
"Related - let's also remember that under the Bush administration, planned attacks were thwarted. Obama's need to please his imaginary betters seriously endangers us all."
AMEN.

322 right_wing2  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:22:28am

So our 'motivation' for reacting to these 'incidents' by blowing those responsible up is understandable?

HA!

323 vagabond trader  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:22:39am

re: #316 SFGoth

:-)

324 nyc redneck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:22:57am

re: #249 WriterMom

Exactly. But as we know-he is not alone. The barbarity-actually comprehending the nature of this savage enemy is too distasteful for many. They are the ones who believe that the bomber will ask them how they voted before exploding himself, or slitting our throats and cutting off our heads. The dellusion is not just dangerous for America, or the Jews or Israel but to the whole world and our way of life. It's hard sometimes not to be utterly obsessed by this.

we are a pc, nice, tolerant society. most people have never suffered or seen real brutality in their personal lives. they can't imagine the depravity that drives the jihadis. it is easier for many civilized people to think being nice will win over the barbarians.
it is, sadly, going to take more hideous crimes from these monsters before even the least naive among us, will understand the danger.

325 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:24:00am

re: #265 Kragar (proud to be kafir) And she asked you this AT WORK? Why does the lawyer in me smell an harassment lawsuit if this shit keeps up?

326 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:26:06am

Don't you all think the purpose of this closing and release of these guys is harm the United States? Seriously, isn't that BO's purpose?

327 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:26:20am

BBIAM!

328 Guanxi88  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:27:20am

re: #297 Kosh's Shadow

Pakistan or Israel?

Yes.

329 reggie  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:28:45am

My favorite quote from AP story: "Rep. Jane Harman, D-California, who heads the House Homeland Security subcommittee on intelligence, said the reports about al-Shihri should not slow the Obama administration's determination to quickly close the prison."

And from IHT's take on this: ""The lesson here is: Whoever receives former Guantánamo detainees needs to keep a close eye on them," the U.S. official said."

God, help us.

330 michaelhop  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:29:30am

Come off it guys.

Remember when "Move On.org" started? It was all about getting us to forget Bill and Monica's tryst and, oh yeah, the resulting felony perjury by a sitting president.

You keep forgetting that The Great Obama Deity (aka the Messiah, or as I call him, "Messy" or "Messama") got 52% of the vote, so he can do anything with impunity, right? And since he is now refusing press questions just 3 days into his term, we know we are just supposed to SHADDUP already. We lost. The country belongs to them now. We should just move on now.

The guy who REALLY is going to make out like a bandit from the Obama years is that Matthew Lesko guy in the Joker-style jacket. He'll be adding a few thousand pages to his book.

[Link: www.governmentgrant.com...]

331 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:30:08am

re: #319 realwest

Indeed - three weeks after 9/11 I got into my first physical "confrontation" in 30 years with a sonofabitch who said "Well we need to try to understand their motivation for those incidents" [note: not attacks, incidents]. Told him the truth - we have NOTHING to learn from those psychotic jihadist's at all. All they want to do is kill and there is no real "thinking" for us to understand.
The, uh, disagreement quickly escalated from there.

Actually, we do need to know their motivation. It is, as we lizards know, they can't stand seeing a successful country that isn't Islamic.
Once we understand that, we know what it takes to deal with them, and it isn't further understanding or compromise. We need to show give them their virgins without giving them any chance to take us with them.

332 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:31:01am

re: #116 Occasional Reader

The creature most frequently accompanying Sarko is definitely not a dog.

Please, just let me eat my waffle. I can't read 12 blogs, write 2 of my own, and feed the dog at the same time.

/

333 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:31:25am

re: #328 Guanxi88

Yes.

Are you a Vorlon, too?

334 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:32:18am

re: #319 realwest

Indeed - three weeks after 9/11 I got into my first physical "confrontation" in 30 years with a sonofabitch who said "Well we need to try to understand their motivation for those incidents" [note: not attacks, incidents]. Told him the truth - we have NOTHING to learn from those psychotic jihadist's at all. All they want to do is kill and there is no real "thinking" for us to understand.
The, uh, disagreement quickly escalated from there.

In my case it would not have been a disagreement, there would have been a 6'2" Jamaican of Jewish, Chinese and African ancestry standing over his unconscious ass, with an ambulance on the way.

335 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:33:11am

re: #331 Kosh's Shadow
Ah, ya hadda be there!

336 realwest  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:34:17am

re: #334 shanec99
We'll in THOSE days I was fitter and faster and you'd a had to get there first!
Only time I've ever been tossed out of a restuarant!

337 Ron Shaw  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:35:46am

...word around the campfire is that the new Big O intends to turn the soon-to-be-empty Gitmo over to Soros and his lefty turnkey loons to soon accommodate the new arrivals from the Homeland after the shock-jock and awl campaign known as the Fairness Doctrine has begun. O's War on American Conservatism will produce a gaggle of enemy verbal and print combatants within the chronically ill Conservative Creek Media...there will be no place for dissent in speak or ink within the One's dupedom; therefore, Gitmo will finally become relevant with total world approval of such a bold initiative by our ruler to rid the world of such homespun vile...we all know the offenders...the O, Soros, Hollywood, the NYT and all her heinous hatch-lings nationwide, ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, PBS, Pelosi, Reid, et al does too...fireside scuttlebutters also suggest that future C-word arrivals, to the newly named 'NoMo' Bay Hostel Liberal Indoctrination Center and Disco, leave their Good Book of choice stateside as the lefters are totally intolerant of all religions including and especially the Gideon's Bible folk save the K-one...the K-one of whom some followers go about murdering and planning to murder all who do not succumb to their 'religion of peace' beliefs...you know, the same people the new Big O will release very soon...rumor has it that double C-word violators (Conservative and Christian) will receive 'early bird discount', special bus' treatment...but, fret not, since statistically only 10% of Gitmo release-ees, that the bean counters know of, go back to Al Fajita (which just happens to be the ONE and ONLY terrorist organizations that the left recognizes as a terrorist organization...the remaining, non-union 'terrorists' are simply potential criminals worthy only of Inspector Cluseau's bumbling attention) murdering infidels or planning to murder non-followers once leaving the old, world-hated, terrorist-dreaded Gitmo resort with bars...do you feel better now, statistically speaking?

338 freedombilly  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:38:38am

This is possibly the scariest post I have ever seen on LGF. We are in for a very long four years. Shudder.

339 faraway  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:50:03am

re: #338 freedombilly

This is possibly the scariest post I have ever seen on LGF. We are in for a very long four years. Shudder.

The sequels will be scarier

340 Cato  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 10:05:08am

re: #191 Taqiyyotomist

Was I censored?

341 restitutor orbis  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 10:39:53am

you can't argue with moonbats on this point. They simply say, "who wouldn't take up arms against those that unjustly imprisoned and tortured them? If they weren't terrorists...sorry, militants....then, then they certainly are now"!

I guess it's like that in their world.........

342 JamesWI  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 10:58:08am

I will probably get downdinged a good deal for this, but why is it that everyone here apparently seems to be blaming Obama for this terrorist? This guy was released under Bush's watch, along with about 420 other detainees. With that 10% number, that means around 42 detainees released while Bush was in charge have gone back to terrorism. 270 remain to be released (or whatever else Obama plans to do with them, since he hasn't elaborated on that, big surprise . . . ). About 1/5 of these have already been cleared for release (during the Bush administration), but no one will take them.

Certainly, Obama's plan is likely to release more terrorists back to their homes so they can continue their jihad. All I'm saying is, at least hold off on the blame game until it actually is his fault. This scumbag has nothing to do with Obama. In the end, the number of recidivist terrorists Obama releases from Guantanamo might not even equal the number Bush has released or cleared to release. Let the karma hit commence :)

343 Lynn B.  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:16:52am

Clearly al-Shihri has only returned to terrorist activities because we sent him to Gitmo. If we had instead sent him to, well, a petting zoo, he would probably be a productive citizen engaged in a warm and fuzzy profession like selling teddy bears to little kids or something.

/... need I?

344 kindadifferent  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:17:48am

I'm laughing and having a panic attack at the same time! Sheesh, the democrats really like the violent underdogs!re: #30 karmic_inquisitor

Just one example of how closing Gitmo is a vital part of Obama's Terrorism Stimulus Package®.

345 sanfranciscozionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:28:01am

re: #104 karmic_inquisitor

"What - Khalid was not read his Miranda Rights on the battlefield? Tsk. Tsk. We must do what is right and release him. What - no country will take him? Well, he is hereby released to the City of Detroit. Case Dismissed!"

Suits me. He won't last long in Detroit. Not NEARLY tough enough for those mean streets.

346 sanfranciscozionist  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:28:38am

re: #345 sanfranciscozionist

Suits me. He won't last long in Detroit. Not NEARLY tough enough for those mean streets.

"Well, there are parts of New York I would advise the Reich not to attempt to invade."

347 tntb  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:45:10am
They all go into "rehab" when repatriated, a program the US pays for. We also pay the governments to keep track of the scum. It is a very active probation program.

Very interesting.

And BTW - the 90% thing is indicative that the one's re haven't released probably are the hardcore ones.

Agreed, and that probably explains most of the number being so high. Which makes this...

Just think - they now get to come on to US soil, get Constitutional protections and criminal procedure

Even scarier. I agree with what someone else here said: just knock down the fence at Gitmo and leave. They'll find the rest of Cuba at some point or another...

348 tntb  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:49:52am
it is, sadly, going to take more hideous crimes from these monsters before even the least naive among us, will understand the danger.

Communists killed 60-100 million people last century, yet communism is still worshiped by the same naive people. There aren't enough humans on this planet for the jihadists to kill to make the left see them as evil.

349 suitepotato  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:50:01am

I'm not in favor Guantanamo, CIA secret prisons, warrantless taps or any of that other nonsense. It is merely a perversion of our values in the name of appeasing the pacifists. It is far more direct and honorable to consider that it is entirely possible for their to be by default peace between individuals and states, and thus conversely between them war.

If these people declare war upon the US, then we should simply declare war upon them. Give them a certain period of notification that their offer to war with us is ready to be accepted and if they do not renounce their former position, make that war upon them.

Would we shot Hitler dead if we could have? So too it should be with these terrorists. Declare war upon us, war you shall have. Wish for martyrdom, we will give it to you. We will see who is left standing, and that is the test of who wins a war.

Prisons are for criminals. Not for enemies in war. Do everyone the honor of treating it as it is, a war, and kill them swiftly. It is the best option for dealing with terrorists and the only one cognizant of the nature of the conflict of absolutes between us.

350 Amer-I-Can  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:54:30am

Isn't this a mute point now? Since the CIA can't question any prisoners, there is no need for any prisoners. Just "adjust" the kill/capture ratio a bit and most of this will be a non issue.

351 baconeatingkaffir  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 12:55:50pm

maybe its a good idea to put some of these gitmo boys in general population in San Quentin or in Sherriff Joe Arapahoe's Arizona system.After having their Koran and Civil rights and club GITMO it would be quite difficult for them to be in with 'da homies. Waterboarding and panties on the head would be nothing compared to becoming big bubba's bitch. Let them become one of their 72 virgins.

352 jaydub  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:30:43pm

re: #349 suitepotato


Prisons are for criminals. Not for enemies in war. Do everyone the honor of treating it as it is, a war, and kill them swiftly.

Agreed, mostly. But what about when they hide amongst innocents who get swept up in a mass arrest? Better to sort the goats from the sheep, surely! Where else could that be done besides a detainment facility where we can question them?

353 arf  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 2:26:59pm

Charles, or anybody with the info.

Do you have citations and/or links for the 10% go back to jihad thing?

Or whatever percent go back to jihad? Specific reports where "XYZ" was released and "XYZ" was subsequently captured or killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

I don't doubt you, just want the specifics 'cause I get challenged on this stuff myself. It "never" happens, or one rare outlier, that sort of thing is what I get.


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