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Our friends the Saudis wasted no time putting the thumbscrews on our new hopenchange President: Obama discusses Gaza with Saudi ruler.

WASHINGTON, Jan 23 (Reuters) - President Barack Obama on Friday asked Saudi King Abdullah for support in halting weapons smuggling into Gaza and underscored the importance of U.S.-Saudi ties in his first talks with the Arab ruler since becoming president, the White House said.

Obama spoke to Abdullah during a series of phone calls with foreign leaders, including British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the White House said in a statement.

The call to Abdullah coincided with the publication of an article by Prince Turki al-Faisal, a former Saudi intelligence chief and ambassador to the United States, warning Obama the United States was putting Saudi ties at risk with its stance on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In an article on the Financial Times website, Turki said former President George W. Bush had left a “sickening legacy” in the Middle East.

“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki said.

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1 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:45:23pm

Toilets fixed...new thread.

2 Caliredst8r  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:46:49pm

A veiled threat? How many of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi?

3 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:48:02pm

Hearing this story makes me wish Rudy Guliani was president. He knows when to tell the Oil Ticks to FOAD.

4 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:48:05pm

Another continuation of the Bush years. Where's the change?

5 maddogg  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:48:27pm

Was there a down side to letting the Ottomans keep them?

6 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:48:46pm
In an article on the Financial Times website, Turki said former President George W. Bush had left a “sickening legacy” in the Middle East.

That's pretty rich- I can think of no more sickening a legacy for the middle east to have been left than that of mohammed.

7 USBeast  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:48:51pm

Well Mister Hopenchange, you've been called out.

8 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:49:21pm

re: #2 Caliredst8r

A veiled threat? How many of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi?

15. The Saudi are true hypocrites when they talk about a "sickening legacy".

9 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:49:50pm

Do the dems know the world smells wuss when they take charge?

10 Haverwilde  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:49:55pm

How soon before The One, throws Israel to the Pali Dogs. It is easy to see, why Israel took on Hamas over the last month. In good democratic fashion we will probably be sending 'advisors' into Gaza next.

11 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:50:19pm

hahahaha...BO has set himself up for failure on the weapons issue...big talk

12 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:50:21pm

He's putty in the world's hands.

13 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:50:24pm

The soddomites of the imaginary kingdom.

14 Shug  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:50:24pm

From running toilet to cesspool in one thread

15 jgold  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:50:45pm

And the beat goes on.....

16 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:50:48pm

I hope Obama is practicing his sword dance because the Saudis are going to be asking him to dance for cheap oil soon.
OT: why does Firefox's spell checker not recognize Obama yet?

17 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:27pm

re: #9 ArmyWife

Do the dems know the world smells wuss when they take charge?

The One does not understand that. He thinks that he can he can charm anyone. He's in for a rude awakening.

18 Haverwilde  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:33pm

re: #16 Neo Con since 9-11

why does Firefox's spell checker not recognize Obama yet?

Intelligent Design

19 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:43pm
20 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:45pm
21 logboy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:47pm

re: #16 Neo Con since 9-11

I hope Obama is practicing his sword dance because the Saudis are going to be asking him to dance for cheap oil soon.
OT: why does Firefox's spell checker not recognize Obama yet?

The developers are racist.

22 Shug  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:48pm

House of Hussein, House of Saud

23 sngnsgt  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:48pm

re: #16 Neo Con since 9-11

There's a lot of that going around. /

24 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:51pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

15. The Saudi are true hypocrites when they talk about a "sickening legacy".

How about female genital mutilation? Honor killings? Stonings? Beheadings?

Revolting.

25 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:51:52pm
“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki said.

That's a lot of threats in one sentence.

26 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:12pm

re: #16 Neo Con since 9-11

I hope Obama is practicing his sword dance because the Saudis are going to be asking him to dance for cheap oil soon.
OT: why does Firefox's spell checker not recognize Obama yet?

Perhaps it doesn't believe he took the correct oath of office?
////

27 logboy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:21pm

re: #19 taxfreekiller

So, big brave Obama talks shit about Rush, and writes firmly void letters to the Oil King of Ticks.

This guy will be very very good at backing down, and misdirection.

Looks to me like he will not even get to 100 days without even the commie D's in the house and senate jumping on his ass for being such a twit.

When did he talk about Rush? I'm playing catchup.

28 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:34pm

re: #9 ArmyWife

Do the dems know the world smells wuss when they take charge?

No, they don't. That's what is so sad.

29 USBeast  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:52:39pm

re: #12 Bloodnok

He's putty in the world's hands.

He's a puppy on the world's stage. We can only pray he's a fast learner.

30 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:53:29pm

The obvious response would be to point out that rumor has it Saudi Arabia is running out of oil.
Then, work out a contract with Israel to develop the natural gas they just found.
Send in some "advisors" dedicated for security purposes.

31 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:53:32pm
If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki said.


You mean the "special relationship" where we give you millions of dollars and you treat us like crap?

32 voirdire  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:00pm

"The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded."

33 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:02pm

I wonder why the Sauds never made threats like this when GWB was in power? Hmmmm, guess he really had a pair.

34 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:10pm

re: #18 Haverwilde

Intelligent Design

Exactly. Mine indicated it will be an acceptable word in 6000 years.

35 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:16pm

re: #31 tackle

You mean the "special relationship" where we give you millions of dollars and you treat us like crap?

While funding wahabbist mosques around the world...

36 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:35pm
37 Caliredst8r  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:40pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

'zactly! I think they should be doing all they can do to protect this "special relationship" we have with them, not threatening us with it. Fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, and by all rights, they should have been invaded just as Afghanistan was.

38 solomonpanting  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:42pm
“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki said.

You mean, like dialoguing with Hamas?

Analysis: US, Israel could coax Hamas to moderate

39 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:42pm

re: #10 Haverwilde

How soon before The One, throws Israel to the Pali Dogs. It is easy to see, why Israel took on Hamas over the last month. In good democratic fashion we will probably be sending 'advisors' into Gaza next.

I'm feeling a sort of shadenfreude at the surprise and puzzlement of Obama supporters including Jews who had the audacity to dare to believe a known prevaricator.

40 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:54:57pm

re: #16 Neo Con since 9-11

I hope Obama is practicing his sword dance because the Saudis are going to be asking him to dance for cheap oil soon.

He will not have to do the sword dance, because soon our cars will all run on hope.

41 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:55:22pm

re: #33 BlueCanuck

I wonder why the Sauds never made threats like this when GWB was in power? Hmmmm, guess he really had a pair.

Yup. They knew they couldn't push him around--at least, not publically. Who knows what they demanded in talks or during state visits.

42 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:55:23pm

re: #32 voirdire

"The Force can have a strong influence on the weak-minded."

True, but we have the will to resist Darth Bama's Sith mind trick.

Stay on target!

43 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:55:39pm

re: #27 logboy

When did he talk about Rush? I'm playing catchup.

See the Drudge - it was a threat to the Republicans - Hannity said he couldn't get republican leaders to come on his show. The Chicago mafia is putting the thug moves on the Republicans.

44 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:55:46pm

re: #16 Neo Con since 9-11

I hope Obama is practicing his sword dance because the Saudis are going to be asking him to dance for cheap oil soon.
OT: why does Firefox's spell checker not recognize Obama yet?

Hopefully it knows something we don't.

45 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:55:50pm

re: #27 logboy

Obama to GOP: You just can't listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done.

46 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:56:30pm

Why do I think 0bama asked how high to jump?
I mean, Bush wasn't perfect on this issue.

RUDY! We need you! Why did you drop out?

47 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:56:38pm

re: #36 taxfreekiller

#27

heard it on 570 A.M here near Dallas

?
[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

Obama is picking a domestic fight with Rush, will probably get down on his knees for Saudi Arabia, and claims to be street tough.

Yeah. Right.

48 SpartanWoman  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:57:02pm

Oaf in Office

49 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:57:10pm

Chicago mafia, political predator thug, time to hit back hard.

50 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:57:24pm

re: #43 DistantThunder

See the Drudge - it was a threat to the Republicans - Hannity said he couldn't get republican leaders to come on his show. The Chicago mafia is putting the thug moves on the Republicans.

Disgusting. But then again I wouldn't mind seeing some new leaders emerge. Perhaps this will bring out a few new ones with guts enough to defy 0bama.

51 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:57:35pm
52 logboy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:01pm

WASHINGTON -- President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

One White House official confirmed the comment but said he was simply trying to make a larger point about bipartisan efforts.

"There are big things that unify Republicans and Democrats," the official said. "We shouldn't let partisan politics derail what are very important things that need to get done

53 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:02pm

re: #30 jwb7605

That gas they found is the property of the Gaza barbarians...../////

54 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:05pm

re: #51 taxfreekiller

tfk says littlegreenfootballs will be next on the Obama hit list

soon come mon....

55 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:17pm

I just got a sinking feeling that Obama's gonna really suck at POTUS.

56 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:38pm

So the 'international crisis within 6 months' that Biden says we are going to face is going to be caused by Obama himself. Change.

57 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:58:52pm

re: #49 DistantThunder

Chicago mafia, political predator thug, time to hit back hard.

Agreed. The GOP needs to start voting against his stimulus bill en masse. Obama needs to be opposed, as strongly as possible until he gets over this ego trip of him.

58 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:59:05pm

re: #55 Noam Sayin'

I just got a sinking feeling that Obama's gonna really suck at POTUS.

Just?

59 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:59:06pm

re: #47 jwb7605

Obama is picking a domestic fight with Rush, will probably get down on his knees for Saudi Arabia, and claims to be street tough.

Yeah. Right.

Now we know who obama and the dems will blame with Bush gone...

60 n in wi  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:59:33pm

And we should not get our own oil. We must not harm Mother.

61 z9z99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:59:35pm

Rather than offering advice on how best to solve the Iraeli-Palestinan thing, it would probably be more useful for these deep thinkers to contemplate and understand one obvious fact that is staring them in the face: Sharia law is a poor basis for a system of government. There's a reason why Ataturk ditched the agonal Caliphate about eighty years ago; there's a reason why people aren't exactly breaking down the gates to emigrate to Iran; there's a reason why Islamic "scholars" are found leading such exemplar states as Taliban Afghanistan, Somalia, Iran and Gaza.

Really, guys; the eighth century is past. Get over it.

62 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:59:37pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. The GOP needs to start voting against his stimulus bill en masse. Obama needs to be opposed, as strongly as possible until he gets over this ego trip of him.

dream on....the GoP is dead...

63 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 6:59:43pm
64 SpartanWoman  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:10pm

IMPEACH OBAMA.

First week: More abortions, dead Pakistani children, "I won", bullying the press corp, taking on El Rushbo....

He is oppressively arrogant.

65 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:10pm

re: #55 Noam Sayin'

I HOPE™ you aren't coming to this realization just now.

/white smoke

66 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:25pm

re: #56 Oh no...Sand People!

I know, it's like Christmas around here, just one thing after another that Obama's is screwing up. Except not really as happy as Christmas. More like Halloween.

67 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:34pm

re: #63 taxfreekiller

Obama has sucked at POTUS for three days now.

give him a chance....like several?

68 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:37pm

re: #62 albusteve

dream on....the GoP is dead...

I disagreed with you on a previous thread (I think it was you...)
No such luck on this one.

69 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:38pm

He's the Messiah. He could sign an executive order and make Saudi Arabia disappear.

70 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:46pm

re: #55 Noam Sayin'

I just got a sinking feeling that Obama's gonna really suck at POTUS.

"Gonna'" Heck, he already does.

71 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:00:48pm

re: #62 albusteve

dream on....the GoP is dead...

Not true. Have faith.

72 Wendya  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:01:28pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

15. The Saudi are true hypocrites when they talk about a "sickening legacy".


Obama is in so far over his head......

They're going to beat him like a rented mule.

73 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:01:40pm

Turki ... how fitting.

74 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:01:44pm

re: #68 jwb7605

I disagreed with you on a previous thread (I think it was you...)
No such luck on this one.

who is the leader against this donk nonsense?...who?

75 SpartanWoman  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:01:50pm

Too bad we can't get Rush a safe senate seat.

76 Salamantis  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:01:53pm

Let's us all hope, although I harbor massive doubts, that this will be the Obama behind the media mask:

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

OTOH, the thread article suggests that he could end up embracing one of the more unsavory aspects of Dubya's presidency; the unfortunate tendency to be waaay too accommodating to the Saudi oil ticks.

77 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:01:56pm

re: #53 WhiteRasta

That gas they found is the property of the Gaza barbarians...../////


Then why aren't the Arabs that live in Gaza (I refuse to call them Palestinians) spending money to develop it instead of begging for aid from the UN. Certainly, their earnings from natural gas could alleviate their poverty.

78 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:01:56pm

re: #47 jwb7605

Obama is picking a domestic fight with Rush, will probably get down on his knees for Saudi Arabia, and claims to be street tough.

Yeah. Right.

The President of the United States telling Congress not to listen to a citizen voicing an opinion.

Some needs are fresher course in 5th grade civics.

*it's not Rush that needs some schoolin'*

79 jaunte  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:02:03pm

re: #39 DistantThunder

I'm feeling a sort of shadenfreude at the surprise and puzzlement of Obama supporters including Jews who had the audacity to dare to believe a known prevaricator.

I was thinking a few days ago that we're going to need a new version of schadenfreude for the Obama years, a schadenfreude that you really don't want to experience, because of the real world circumstances that engender it.
"Unbefriedigendes schadenfreude" (Unsatisfactory schadenfreude)
or
"Unglückliche Ironie (Unhappy Irony)

80 brookly red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:02:39pm

Damn! the Saudis promised to wait a week!

81 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:02:40pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

Not true. Have faith.

What's going to happen is that GOP conservatives will visibly stand out from RINOs. The question is going to be whether the GOP will be called the GOP as a numerical result of that showing.

82 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:02:40pm

OT OT OT *Repost from prior dead thread:

I can't remember...who is running the prayer list? I am so worried. My bro, the big bad ass Marine just had precancerous polyps removed from his colon. I am not sure how worried I should be. Is this a sign of things to come? Did the removal of said polyps remove the threat? please advise. And prayers would help too. Thanx guys!

83 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:02:43pm

re: #51 taxfreekiller

tfk says littlegreenfootballs will be next on the Obama hit list

So do we all get to go to the same re-education camp or will they split us up?

84 solomonpanting  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:02:52pm

re: #69 Kreuzueber Halbmond

He's the Messiah. He could sign an executive order and make Saudi Arabia disappear.

Hmmm. We'd have a Near East and a Far East. Cut out the Middleman.

85 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:17pm

re: #78 jcm

The President of the United States telling Congress not to listen to a citizen voicing an opinion.

Some needs are fresher course in 5th grade civics.

*it's not Rush that needs some schoolin'*

This President is acting like a spoiled brat.

86 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:21pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

Not true. Have faith.

show me the beef...when and if someone emerges you can say I told you so...right now who carries the torch?...who?

87 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:38pm
88 n in wi  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:44pm

re: #85 pre-Boomer Marine brat

This President is acting like a spoiled brat.

Not acting

89 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:52pm

re: #67 albusteve

I really, really hope Obama turns out to be a great President. I sincerely hope he drops his juvenile nonsense and governs like a real President.

I really, really hope so and I do genuinely wish him all the best.

90 neverquit  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:58pm
In an article on the Financial Times website, Turki said former President George W. Bush had left a “sickening legacy” in the Middle East.

And the legacy of the Saudis? Lopping off hands for petty crimes, beating women in public, violence spouting mullahs, religious intolerance and rabid racism......

91 DEZes  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:03:59pm

"Bush had left a “sickening legacy” in the Middle East."
Ever look at the legacy of the middle east Mr. s**t for brains?

92 JacksonTn  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:04:01pm

re: #82 UberInfidel67

OT OT OT *Repost from prior dead thread:

I can't remember...who is running the prayer list? I am so worried. My bro, the big bad ass Marine just had precancerous polyps removed from his colon. I am not sure how worried I should be. Is this a sign of things to come? Did the removal of said polyps remove the threat? please advise. And prayers would help too. Thanx guys!

Chasing you down from the last thread ...

So sorry about your brother ...if the biopsy came back in situ ...he is in good shape ...precancerous polyps are pretty common ...good that he got them out now ...prayers to your brother ...

93 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:04:09pm

re: #83 Bobibutu

So do we all get to go to the same re-education camp or will they split us up?

I won't go to any such place. I'll walk in front of a train first.

94 Steve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:04:15pm

President Barack Obama on Friday asked Saudi King Abdullah for support in halting weapons smuggling into Gaza and underscored the importance of U.S.-Saudi ties in his first talks with the Arab ruler since becoming president, the White House said.

Saudi King Abdullah answers:
For millions of dollars in aid we can try to stop the flow.

second year of Hussiens presidency:
For millions of dollars in aid we can try to stop the flow.

third year of Hussiens presidency:
For millions of dollars in aid we can try to stop the flow.

Fourth year of Hussiens presidency:
For millions of dollars in aid we can try to stop the flow.

95 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:04:16pm

I need a bumper sticker that says:

HOPE the CHANGE to socialism fails.

96 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:04:32pm

re: #78 jcm

The President of the United States telling Congress not to listen to a citizen voicing an opinion.

Some needs are fresher course in 5th grade civics.

*it's not Rush that needs some schoolin'*

Professor Rush will be on Monday.

97 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:04:33pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

He will not have to do the sword dance, because soon our cars will all run on hope.

And lubricated with change? And will our plastics be made from "Yes we can"? Our homes be heated by "We are the ones"?
Either he 1)Drills here, drills now.
2) Panders to the Saudis and learns the sword dance
3) Crushes this nation's economy when we run out of oil.
I'm pretty sure the smart option, number 1, is out of the question. I personally think Obama would like to do number 3 but he would like a second term more so he will go with number 2 in his first term. Besides pandering to terrorists comes quite naturally to Obama.

98 SpartanWoman  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:04:33pm

re: #85 pre-Boomer Marine brat

This President is acting like a spoiled brat.

Ain't acting.

Why is BO always covering the family jewels in those pics. Look at the pick on Drudge. Always feeling himself up

99 brookly red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:04:35pm

re: #83 Bobibutu

So do we all get to go to the same re-education camp or will they split us up?

why do you think he closed quitmo?

100 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:04:52pm

re: #88 n in wi

Not acting

I began with that, then modified it.

/stranger, more inexplicable, compulsions have occured

101 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:00pm

re: #78 jcm

The President of the United States telling Congress not to listen to a citizen voicing an opinion.

Some needs are fresher course in 5th grade civics.

*it's not Rush that needs some schoolin'*

You deserve 2 updings, but I only have one.

Why is Obama so afraid of Rush? I hope Rush comes out on top.

/hoping Socialism fails too

102 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:08pm

re: #82 UberInfidel67

OT OT OT *Repost from prior dead thread:

I can't remember...who is running the prayer list? I am so worried. My bro, the big bad ass Marine just had precancerous polyps removed from his colon. I am not sure how worried I should be. Is this a sign of things to come? Did the removal of said polyps remove the threat? please advise. And prayers would help too. Thanx guys!

My Mom and Uncle had those. Were a big nothing. Pre-cancerous sounds like a scare tactic to me. How is something pre-cancerous. It either is or isn't. So in that case it isn't.

103 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:08pm

re: #85 pre-Boomer Marine brat

This President is acting like a spoiled brat.

No- spoiled brats end up answering to a parent at some point. He's more like a reckless 19 year old.

104 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:10pm

re: #66 tackle

I know, it's like Christmas around here, just one thing after another that Obama's is screwing up. Except not really as happy as Christmas. More like Halloween.


I didn't know I asked Santa for a kick in the balls for christmas...multiple times.
/

105 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:17pm

He tried to attach a snowplow blade?

Sounds like some arm-twisting to me.

Stop! Uncle! Uncle!

106 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:18pm

re: #77 shanec99

Well, my key it is much better to be a victim than to go out and make a living.

107 ClosetConservative  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:19pm

Attacking a private citizen?

Keep it classy, Slick Barry.

And here's another question for Barack. How come he wants to start off the "New Era of Responsibility" by "extending a hand" holding $825 billion to any company with an "unclenched fist"? When Obama talked about extending a hand to anyone with an unclenched fist, I think he assumed there'd be money in that fist. Taxpayer money.

108 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:26pm

re: #92 JacksonTn

Thank you : ) I don't know how to take this though. Damn Mr. Physical had this happen? I am scared.

109 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:27pm

That King Abdullah sounds like a cheap Chicago hood.
Uh-oh...

110 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:36pm

re: #78 jcm

The President of the United States telling Congress not to listen to a citizen voicing an opinion.

Some needs are fresher course in 5th grade civics.

*it's not Rush that needs some schoolin'*

I am in a dilemma - whether to consider him dildo brain or dildo breath.

111 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:39pm

Oh, sure, we all knew he was going to suck. But I'm thinking he's going to really suck - as in, it gives me the creeps thinking about it.

112 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:43pm

re: #86 albusteve

show me the beef...when and if someone emerges you can say I told you so...right now who carries the torch?...who?

Mitch McConnell, Sarah Palin, Mark Sanford. Any of them can serve as national leaders of the GOP.

113 Shug  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:05:48pm

re: #78 jcm

The President of the United States telling Congress not to listen to a citizen voicing an opinion.

Some needs are fresher course in 5th grade civics.

*it's not Rush that needs some schoolin'*

They want to give Kahlid Sheikh Mohammed more rights than Mr Limbaugh

114 USBeast  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:06pm

re: #70 MandyManners

"Gonna'" Heck, he already does.

He's gonna have a hard time not sucking given his prior statements and associations. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but his early decisions have only left me more doubtful.

115 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:22pm

re: #47 jwb7605

Obama is picking a domestic fight with Rush, will probably get down on his knees for Saudi Arabia, and claims to be street tough.

Yeah. Right.

Does Obama realize that we will riot in the street for Rush? Someone needs to fill him in on Dan's Bakesale. - 80,000 people.

116 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:29pm

re: #90 neverquit

Oh stop with your logic, fer crying out loud....

117 ciaospirit  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:35pm

re: #78 jcm

The President of the United States telling Congress not to listen to a citizen voicing an opinion.

Joe the Plumber was just the beginning.

118 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:48pm

re: #111 Noam Sayin'

Oh, sure, we all knew he was going to suck. But I'm thinking he's going to really suck - as in, it gives me the creeps thinking about it.

I ordered more magazines and ammo today...

119 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:54pm

re: #103 Sharmuta

No- spoiled brats end up answering to a parent at some point. He's more like a reckless 19 year old.

Hmmm, good point.

BTW, haven't been around much today.
How are you doing since yesterday?
{Sharmuta}!

120 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:57pm

re: #102 kansas
"Precancerous" would be the same as displaysia in a woman. Not quite cancer...but leaning in that direction if untreated.

121 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:06:59pm

re: #77 shanec99

Then why aren't the Arabs that live in Gaza (I refuse to call them Palestinians) spending money to develop it instead of begging for aid from the UN. Certainly, their earnings from natural gas could alleviate their poverty.

Why spend your own money when you can get a handout from the infidel whose very money they loaned you intend to use to kill them with? They can't believe their luck and neither can we...

122 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:07:21pm

re: #119 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sweetie, I'm fine. Thanks for asking.

123 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:07:29pm

re: #89 WhiteRasta

I really, really hope Obama turns out to be a great President. I sincerely hope he drops his juvenile nonsense and governs like a real President.

I really, really hope so and I do genuinely wish him all the best.


As do I my friend, in times like these America and the world needs a great US President. We can only pray.

124 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:07:32pm

re: #65 BlueCanuck

I must admit, I don't get the "white smoke" reference.

Que?

125 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:07:36pm

Perhaps we are seeing what an Affirmative Action President looks like. Has a sense of entitlement and big assed chip on his shoulder.

126 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:07:46pm

Watching Battlestar Galactica to cheer up.

127 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:07:46pm

Diplomacy is seen as a sign of weakness in the Middle East...this administration is a sitting duck.

Like the old Toyota commercial.
You asked for it...you got it...bend over.

128 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:07:47pm

re: #96 jwb7605

Professor Rush will be on Monday.

Should be memorable.

129 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:07:53pm

re: #87 taxfreekiller

McCain has been meeting with Obama's people and the Senate Democrats more than with the Republican leadership, there are people there in the Senate office building who work for the Senators who are leaking info to
some of the minuteman org.'s.. They are set to rush the amnesty , they think they have the votes and know they have to act fast and blow it by before Americans catch on to what they are doing.


He just needs to switch parties...

I'll give you one John Mc Cain for one Zell Miller

130 code red 21  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:08pm

If BO turns against Israel in favor of the Palis he will embolden the Islamists to strike in force against Israel and it will be a bloodbath. He will drag us into a war that we will be on the wrong side of and it's only day three of the chosen one's reign.

131 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:09pm
132 Haverwilde  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:22pm

re: #77 shanec99

Then why aren't the Arabs that live in Gaza (I refuse to call them Palestinians) spending money to develop it instead of begging for aid from the UN. Certainly, their earnings from natural gas could alleviate their poverty.

They can only throw bombs and rockets if there is nothing worth preserving at home.

133 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:29pm

re: #82 UberInfidel67

OT OT OT *Repost from prior dead thread:

I can't remember...who is running the prayer list? I am so worried. My bro, the big bad ass Marine just had precancerous polyps removed from his colon. I am not sure how worried I should be. Is this a sign of things to come? Did the removal of said polyps remove the threat? please advise. And prayers would help too. Thanx guys!

Having just gone through something similar, may I ask a followup question: were these tubular-villous polyps, tubular polyps, or villous polyps? (My spelling may be off.) It matters which one it was, if you know.

134 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:32pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Mitch McConnell, Sarah Palin, Mark Sanford. Any of them can serve as national leaders of the GOP.


Mark Sanford would be my pick.

135 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:36pm

re: #127 jorline

Diplomacy is seen as a sign of weakness in the Middle East...this administration is a sitting duck.

Like the old Toyota commercial.
You asked for it...you got it...bend over.

I must have missed that part of the comercial.

136 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:44pm

re: #84 solomonpanting

All we are going to see out of the Messiah is what we have already seen - a fairy tale puppet on a string, who signs executive orders written by leftist commie bureaucrats.

137 SpartanWoman  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:53pm

re: #131 taxfreekiller

Got to where he is by being a vote thug, what makes any one think he will change from his mold now, thug is , thug does the thug thing.

Don't you mean "thizzle"?

138 Attaboid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:57pm

Hey Turki, STUFF YOU!

139 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:08:58pm

re: #109 Spare O'Lake

That King Abdullah sounds like a cheap Chicago hood.
Uh-oh...

"You can get further with a smile, a kind word, and a gun than with just a smile and a kind word."

- Alphonse "Scarface Al" Capone

140 Racer X  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:01pm

re: #51 taxfreekiller

tfk says littlegreenfootballs will be next on the Obama hit list

re: #89 WhiteRasta

I really, really hope Obama turns out to be a great President. I sincerely hope he drops his juvenile nonsense and governs like a real President.

I really, really hope so and I do genuinely wish him all the best.

Heh.

I sure hope they don't hack into Charles' database and start knocking on doors.

[paranoid now]

141 pink freud  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:02pm

re: #89 WhiteRasta

I really, really hope Obama turns out to be a great President. I sincerely hope he drops his juvenile nonsense and governs like a real President.

Not gonna happen.

142 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:04pm

re: #125 kansas

Perhaps we are seeing what an Affirmative Action President looks like. Has a sense of entitlement and big assed chip on his shoulder.

Michelle is up on his shoulder?

143 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:21pm

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

I won't go to any such place. I'll walk in front of a train first.

May we have your brain first?
/

144 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:40pm

0bama will not turn on Israel- he still needs the Jewish vote for his re-election.

If he should be re-elected, then he'll turn on Israel.

145 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:43pm

re: #120 UberInfidel67

"Precancerous" would be the same as displaysia in a woman. Not quite cancer...but leaning in that direction if untreated.

But all good, so the person shouldn't be all upset about her brother. Right?

146 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:09:55pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Mitch McConnell, Sarah Palin, Mark Sanford. Any of them can serve as national leaders of the GOP.

I like Sanford....says who that they can serve as national leaders?....Palin tried that and got dismembered for the effort

147 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:10:40pm

re: #133 vxbush
Not sure. What is the difference so I can ask him?

148 neverquit  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:10:44pm

re: #116 WhiteRasta

It's a burden.

149 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:10:47pm

re: #135 Hard Right

I must have missed that part of the comercial.

America may become a nation of Bohicans.

BOHICA: Bend Over Here It Comes Again.

150 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:10:57pm

re: #129 summergurl

He just needs to switch parties...

I'll give you one John Mc Cain for one Zell Miller

McCain can do us more damage by staying in the party. So he will.

151 SpartanWoman  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:14pm

re: #144 Sharmuta

He'll have a few million "naturalized" formerly illegal voters in 2012, he doesn't need the jews.

152 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:17pm

re: #134 summergurl

Mark Sanford would be my pick.

I believe Michael Steele is now the GOP national chairman.
I like him.

153 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:18pm

re: #106 WhiteRasta
No it is not much better to be a victim, it is just easier. Easier does not mean better in most circumstances.

154 z9z99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:34pm

re: #69 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Hillary Clinton has a clarification.

155 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:35pm

It's good to know that just "talk" gets under Obama's skin.

156 gymnast  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:35pm

I wonder of Prince Turki still holds the Master Lease on Marina Del Ray?

157 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:42pm

re: #145 kansas
What? I was the one that asked the question.

158 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:46pm

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

America may become a nation of Bohicans.

BOHICA: Bend Over Here It Comes Again.

I've used that term myself. It's funny when people doen't know what it means.
I shall not bend easily.

159 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:52pm

re: #151 SpartanWoman

He'll have a few million "naturalized" formerly illegal voters in 2012, he doesn't need the jews.

They'd vote for him anyway.

160 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:11:55pm

re: #152 jwb7605

I believe Michael Steele is now the GOP national chairman.
I like him.


I do too. Wish he would have ran..

161 brookly red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:12:24pm

re: #144 Sharmuta

0bama will not turn on Israel- he still needs the Jewish vote for his re-election.

If he should be re-elected, then he'll turn on Israel.

re-election? Hahahahaha there aint no more elections!

162 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:12:39pm

re: #130 code red 21

If BO turns against Israel in favor of the Palis he will embolden the Islamists to strike in force against Israel and it will be a bloodbath. He will drag us into a war that we will be on the wrong side of and it's only day three of the chosen one's reign.

Gracus:"Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom, and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the Senate. It's the sand of the Collisium. He'll bring them death... and they will love him for it."

163 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:12:45pm

re: #146 albusteve

I like Sanford....says who that they can serve as national leaders?....Palin tried that and got dismembered for the effort

Palin was ill-prepared and poorly supported. If she is trained and supported properly, I think she will prove quite capable of handling herself on a national stage.

164 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:12:54pm

re: #160 summergurl

I do too. Wish he would have ran..

I think he will be directing battery fire.

165 n in wi  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:01pm

re: #115 DistantThunder

Does Obama realize that we will riot in the street for Rush? Someone needs to fill him in on Dan's Bakesale. - 80,000 people.

Or he could have asked Harry Reid how it worked out for him with the "phony soldier" deal.

166 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:10pm

re: #147 UberInfidel67

BTW, did you see (on the prior thread) that goddessoftheclassroom got your post about your brother?

She did. He's being added to the LGF prayer list.

167 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:19pm

re: #158 Hard Right

I've used that term myself. It's funny when people doen't know what it means.
I shall not bend easily.

Nor shall I.

168 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:20pm

re: #99 brookly red

why do you think he closed quitmo?

Rhetoric - I don't think it will happen. One year - law suits galore ... he is delusional.

169 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:23pm

re: #153 shanec99

Yes, but you are an American and that is the way we think.

The arabs in Gaza prefer to wallow in their misery and ignorance.

170 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:13:42pm

re: #161 brookly red

That's the kind of shit koslings said about President Bush.

171 Racer X  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:01pm

Rush Limbaugh - loves America, hates commies. On Obama's shit list.

Saudi Arabia - hates America, funds terrorists. On Obama's list of new friends.

hmmm......

172 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:07pm

Hey, I heard today that Obama authorized Gitmo for another year.

173 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:21pm

re: #124 Noam Sayin'

I must admit, I don't get the "white smoke" reference.

Que?

Something from the LNDT started by redc1c4. Indicates sarcasm/CYA.

/used in humour.

174 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:26pm

re: #114 USBeast

He's gonna have a hard time not sucking given his prior statements and associations. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but his early decisions have only left me more doubtful.

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. In Obama's case it's lying, evading, manipulating, ignoring corruption, enabling corruption etc, etc. - and he's still the same person he always was, wo why bother to give him the benefit of the doubt.

obama and his crew have never been people of integrity, and are still not people of integrity. And it's leaking out all over...

175 neverquit  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:28pm

It's on now, welcome to the party pal.

176 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:29pm

re: #137 SpartanWoman

Don't you mean "thizzle"?

thizzle.......

Youtube Video
177 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:39pm

re: #170 Sharmuta

That's the kind of shit koslings said about President Bush.

You are far more graceful than I. Thank you for the comment.

178 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:14:41pm

re: #166 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I did not see that. Thank you for letting me know and thank you to the Goddess for adding him : ) It freaked me out only because he called to let me know. This man doesn't tell the family anything. If HE is worried about something than I should be worried. Ya know what I mean?

179 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:15:08pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

Palin was ill-prepared and poorly supported. If she is trained and supported properly, I think she will prove quite capable of handling herself on a national stage.

it's not that...it's the numbers...she wont have the numbers...capability means nothing capich?...she would have to defeat the donks and the MSN....not gonna happen...find another pitcher

180 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:15:08pm

re: #162 Oh no...Sand People!

Gracus:"Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom, and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the Senate. It's the sand of the Collisium. He'll bring them death... and they will love him for it."

Describes MSM too. I saw a clip where the media was getting irritated with Barry for not answering questions. But one cameraman jumps in and says, "It feels good to call you Mr. President."

Ugh.

181 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:15:14pm

re: #170 Sharmuta

That's the kind of shit koslings said about President Bush.

They were serious tho. The lizard was not.

182 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:15:21pm

re: #162 Oh no...Sand People!

Gracus:"Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom, and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the Senate. It's the sand of the Collisium. He'll bring them death... and they will love him for it."

Maximus: "At my signal, unleash Hell." That is what we must do to Obama whenever he gets statist urges. He needs to be shown that trying to bully us is not worth the grief and risk.

183 brookly red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:15:28pm

re: #168 Bobibutu

that sounds like the letters my grandma wrote from Germany... too bad I never got to meet her.

184 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:15:39pm

re: #178 UberInfidel67

I did not see that. Thank you for letting me know and thank you to the Goddess for adding him : ) It freaked me out only because he called to let me know. This man doesn't tell the family anything. If HE is worried about something than I should be worried. Ya know what I mean?

I know what you mean. My Dad was like that.

185 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:15:51pm

re: #173 BlueCanuck

Aha... It is funny.

186 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:01pm

re: #147 UberInfidel67

Not sure. What is the difference so I can ask him?

They are three types of polyps that can occur in the colon. Obviously, the tubular-villous polyps are a combo of the other two. Villous polyps are less common, but about 40 percent of them become cancerous. Cancer develops in about 22 percent of all tubular-villous polyps. I can't find any quick statistics on the tubular polyps. My doctor told me that mine (tubular-villous) would likely have turned cancerous in two years. But of course, that doesn't bring into consideration how quickly the cancer would have grown, whether symptoms would have cropped up, etc. etc.

As long as your brother has a regular colonoscopy per the doctor's suggestion (mine said every two years), then he should be okay. You may want to get one yourself, and his kids should get one at the age that corresponds to about five years before his were discovered.

Does that help?

187 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:18pm

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

Palin was ill-prepared and poorly supported. If she is trained and supported properly, I think she will prove quite capable of handling herself on a national stage.

I think McCain picked her BECAUSE she went after the Republicans, albeit she needed to clean house but I think McCain expected one thing and got another. He probably was so taken with her for going after Ted Stevens and Co. that he didn't vet her well enough or even understand how fiscally conservative she is.. she surprised him - and in some instances I think he left her hanging out there to dry.

188 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:24pm

re: #172 kansas

Hey, I heard today that Obama authorized Gitmo for another year.

Sounds like half of a knock-knock joke.

189 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:49pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. The GOP needs to start voting against his stimulus bill en masse. Obama needs to be opposed, as strongly as possible until he gets over this ego trip of him.

We can only hope the GOP grows a pair and opposes this ridiculous bill. Some are opposing it and trying for tax breaks instead.

190 theblakester  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:56pm

I would have put it the other way around to the Saudis. I'd tell them I just might make a head fake on your ass, and run left first to drop a few bombs, then break back to the right and finish dropping my load in Iran.

191 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:57pm

re: #181 Hard Right

And you know this how? Regardless- that kind of comment makes LGF look like a right-wing version of kos. We don't need to act like Freepers here.

192 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:16:59pm
193 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:17:38pm

re: #179 albusteve

it's not that...it's the numbers...she wont have the numbers...capability means nothing capich?...she would have to defeat the donks and the MSN....not gonna happen...find another pitcher

I don't agree at this time. I am not willing to let the MSM slime a good governor and then just write her off. We need to promote her as a leader. We need all the leaders we can get.

194 code red 21  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:17:51pm

re: #98 SpartanWoman

Ain't acting.

Why is BO always covering the family jewels in those pics. Look at the pick on Drudge. Always feeling himself up

I think it was a few years ago in the Congo and Ghana where some tribesmen killed some witches or witchdoctors for stealing or shrinking their penises. Maybe he's afraid if he doesn't protect it in public it will get stolen or it might get shrunken up.

195 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:17:58pm

There is some group of congressmen who are working on overturning the 22nd ammendment.

196 pink freud  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:18:22pm

re: #174 DistantThunder

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. In Obama's case it's lying, evading, manipulating, ignoring corruption, enabling corruption etc, etc. - and he's still the same person he always was, wo why bother to give him the benefit of the doubt.

obama and his crew have never been people of integrity, and are still not people of integrity. And it's leaking out all over...

BINGO!

If anything, "who he always was" will only get worse now that he has the reins of the most powerful office in the world.

The esteem and honor we have seen in the White House wasn't there by virtue of the office, it was there by the virtue of he MAN/MEN who held the office.

Obama doesn't possess those qualities.

/he be the mo fo black president, doncha know

197 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:18:48pm

re: #191 Sharmuta

And you know this how? Regardless- that kind of comment makes LGF look like a right-wing version of kos. We don't need to act like Freepers here.

re-election? Hahahahaha there aint no more elections!

Looks like sarcasm to me. How about asking if a sarc tag is missing?

198 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:19:06pm

re: #186 vxbush

They are three types of polyps that can occur in the colon. Obviously, the tubular-villous polyps are a combo of the other two. Villous polyps are less common, but about 40 percent of them become cancerous. Cancer develops in about 22 percent of all tubular-villous polyps. I can't find any quick statistics on the tubular polyps. My doctor told me that mine (tubular-villous) would likely have turned cancerous in two years. But of course, that doesn't bring into consideration how quickly the cancer would have grown, whether symptoms would have cropped up, etc. etc.

As long as your brother has a regular colonoscopy per the doctor's suggestion (mine said every two years), then he should be okay. You may want to get one yourself, and his kids should get one at the age that corresponds to about five years before his were discovered.

Does that help?

I had a colonoscopy for my 60th, same sort of diagnosis.
They told me to come back in 5 years.
I had the presence of mind to say "sounds like you're not real worried about this".
The reply was "Not really. Pretty common".

199 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:19:50pm

Shane,

email me. I want to catch up with you in de yawd and buy you some beer.

200 n in wi  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:01pm

re: #152 jwb7605

I believe Michael Steele is now the GOP national chairman.
I like him.

Mike Pence is good too.

201 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:18pm

re: #171 Racer X

Rush Limbaugh - loves America, hates commies. On Obama's shit list.

Saudi Arabia - hates America, funds terrorists. On Obama's list of new friends.

hmmm......

Well put...thanks.

202 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:19pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

I don't agree at this time. I am not willing to let the MSM slime a good governor and then just write her off. We need to promote her as a leader. We need all the leaders we can get.

what can you do to prevent the MSM sliming whoever they want?...nothing...the MSM is an extremely powerful institution...they dont give a rats ass what you think....

203 logboy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:25pm

re: #52 logboy

The fact President clueless even mentioned Rush tells us all he may try to ramrod the Fairness Doctrine back in. Never say never, it was implemented once, they can do it again.

204 jcm  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:33pm

re: #195 DistantThunder

There is some group of congressmen who are working on overturning the 22nd ammendment.

Super majority in both house. 2/3rds of the states.
Not likely.
But a year ago said the same thing about President Obama.

205 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:20:52pm

re: #186 vxbush
Yes, it helps. I had one about 8 years ago and it was fine. My Mom who is 69 had one not too long ago and had the polyps. His being precancerous obviously shook him a bit because he called me and my other siblings to tell us to have one done. I copied what you typed in though and will ask him EXACTLY what the doctors said to him. Thank you very much. (Damn hard-headed impervious resistant bullet proof Marine that he is lol)

206 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:08pm

re: #200 n in wi

Mike Pence is good too.

Steele's job is to direct artillery fire.
Pence will probably command a battery.
-- as will some other names mentioned on this thread.

207 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:11pm
208 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:21:45pm

re: #204 jcm

Super majority in both house. 2/3rds of the states.
Not likely.
But a year ago said the same thing about President Obama.

Please don't use the O word after the term President. I am not feeling well. Still in shock.

209 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:22:05pm

MSM hates Rush, so they are going to enjoy this fight.

/kinda like a fight between Jenn and Angelina

210 Racer X  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:22:15pm

Is it just me or is the MFM reporting every little thing Obama does as a major accomplishment?

211 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:22:27pm

re: #198 jwb7605

I had a colonoscopy for my 60th, same sort of diagnosis.
They told me to come back in 5 years.
I had the presence of mind to say "sounds like you're not real worried about this".
The reply was "Not really. Pretty common".

My doctor is a bit more ...aggressive on these things, shall we say. :D But he's a sweetheart.

212 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:22:58pm

re: #210 Racer X

Is it just me or is the MFM reporting every little thing Obama does as a major accomplishment?

Well, whatever he did today was....so historic.

/and George S. cried

213 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:01pm

re: #207 Iron Fist
Just two years?

214 Syrah  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:01pm

re: #210 Racer X

Is it just me or is the MFM reporting every little thing Obama does as a major accomplishment?

Stop the presses! Obama raised an eyebrow!

215 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:06pm

re: #203 logboy

The fact President clueless even mentioned Rush tells us all he may try to ramrod the Fairness Doctrine back in. Never say never, it was implemented once, they can do it again.

Tells me obama's an obsessive narcissist. he was obsessed when sean was critisizing him - and now he's turned his attention to Rush.

Notice that when people critisized Pres Bush he would say that he welcomed it because it was free speech and a sign of what was good about America. he accepted that he couldn't control it, so he ignored most of it, and didn't try to shut it down.

216 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:08pm
217 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:18pm

re: #209 Lively

MSM hates Rush, so they are going to enjoy this fight.

/kinda like a fight between Jenn and Angelina

I wonder if Rush will have the good sense to get Fred! on his show, when things heat up?

218 Aisha bint Abi Bakr  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:31pm

“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki said.

I honestly cannot fathom how any Arab woman could find any of these men worh effing.

219 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:40pm

re: #191 Sharmuta

And you know this how? Regardless- that kind of comment makes LGF look like a right-wing version of kos. We don't need to act like Freepers here.

Take a pill, Sharm, it sounded like a joke to me.
The comment did not advocate violence nor was it racist.

220 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:23:44pm

re: #202 albusteve

what can you do to prevent the MSM sliming whoever they want?...nothing...the MSM is an extremely powerful institution...they dont give a rats ass what you think....

And I don't play by their rules. They can try to slime, but all that means is we need to try harder. We tried picking candidate approved by the MSM in 2008 only to have them turn on him. We need to promote someone they've slimed if only to show that we can. The MSM is in bad shape, we should not treat them like they are invincible.

221 summergurl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:01pm

re: #213 tackle

Just two years?


next elections

222 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:08pm

re: #209 Lively

MSM hates Rush, so they are going to enjoy this fight.

/kinda like a fight between Jenn and Angelina

The MSM is obsessed with Rush and Ann Coulter.

223 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:10pm

re: #215 DistantThunder

Tells me obama's an obsessive narcissist. he was obsessed when sean was critisizing him - and now he's turned his attention to Rush.

Notice that when people critisized Pres Bush he would say that he welcomed it because it was free speech and a sign of what was good about America. he accepted that he couldn't control it, so he ignored most of it, and didn't try to shut it down.

Maybe O took a lesson from Bush when he saw what that got him.

224 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:16pm

re: #205 UberInfidel67

Yes, it helps. I had one about 8 years ago and it was fine. My Mom who is 69 had one not too long ago and had the polyps. His being precancerous obviously shook him a bit because he called me and my other siblings to tell us to have one done. I copied what you typed in though and will ask him EXACTLY what the doctors said to him. Thank you very much. (Damn hard-headed impervious resistant bullet proof Marine that he is lol)

Of course, remind him that this is a lowly lizard who is NOT A DOCTOR and therefore if he has any concerns he should take them to his own doctor, whether he's a Marine or not. That's his best place to get info. If he's not comfortable with that diagnosis or care plan, then he should get a second opinion from a gastroenterologist and not someone who knows a little bit because she read about it before and after her procedure.

225 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:21pm

re: #215 DistantThunder
Was it Krauthammer that said he wasn't concerned about the color of Obama's skin, just the thinness of it?

226 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:21pm

re: #184 pre-Boomer Marine brat This is a Marine with 24+ years of service...Infantry. He hit an IED about a year and a half ago...they told him 6 months recovery and then physical therapy. He said "Fuck that" and was back in less than two. lol lol lol lol Instead of Jarhead it should be Hardhead.

227 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:27pm

re: #218 Aisha bint Abi Bakr

9 year olds have no choice in the matter.....

228 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:31pm

re: #210 Racer X

Is it just me or is the MFM reporting every little thing Obama does as a major accomplishment?

Tragedy befell the nation today as President 0bama suffered a paper cut on his left index finger.....

229 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:38pm

re: #217 jwb7605

I wonder if Rush will have the good sense to get Fred! on his show, when things heat up?

I bet Rush will have a hard time going to sleep tonight. I know I would if the PotUS talked smack about me publicly.

230 twincitiesgirl  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:43pm

re: #111 Noam Sayin'

Oh, sure, we all knew he was going to suck. But I'm thinking he's going to really suck - as in, it gives me the creeps thinking about it.

I think he's already accomplished that goal.

231 Aisha bint Abi Bakr  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:43pm

Sorry, I meant to write - worth effing.

232 Truck Monkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:24:59pm

re: #225 tackle

Was it Krauthammer that said he wasn't concerned about the color of Obama's skin, just the thinness of it?

Dennis Miller.

233 solomonpanting  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:02pm

re: #218 Aisha bint Abi Bakr

“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki said.

I honestly cannot fathom how any Arab woman could find any of these men worh effing.


They don't have a choice in the matter.

234 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:15pm

re: #207 Iron Fist

I wouldn't say that we were pleased by Obama doing what he is doing. I'd laugh my ass off if he told the lunatic Left fringe to go fuck themselves, he's President now, and he doesn't have to pretend he believes the horseshit they're shoveling.

That would be amusing. It ain't going to happen, though.

The question is, and will be for a while, how bad will he be? We cannot afford to stick our heads in the sand and pretend that everything is going to be alright. It isn't going to be alright.

It is going to be a long two years.

Thank you for mentioning two years. We need to get Congressional seats (and a few Governorships) back. We can't take our eyes off that by focusing too heavily on the Presidency in 2012.

235 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:20pm

re: #210 Racer X

Is it just me or is the MFM reporting every little thing Obama does as a major accomplishment?

YES. I'm afraid we're going to have hour-by-hour updates soon.

"Obama went to the bathroom once this past hour and, being the greatest president who ever served, only used two squares of toilet paper to prove how green he is."

/retch

236 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:23pm

re: #225 tackle

Was it Krauthammer that said he wasn't concerned about the color of Obama's skin, just the thinness of it?

Dennis Miller I believe.

237 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:29pm

re: #183 brookly red

that sounds like the letters my grandma wrote from Germany... too bad I never got to meet her.

Unrealistic fantasy of mine - a party week with 30+ generations of fore-bearers - without weapons.

238 Racer X  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:31pm

And why would Obama choose to pick a fight with a right-wing talk show host less than a week into his presidency? Doesn't that seem odd?

239 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:34pm

re: #219 Spare O'Lake

WTF? Where did I say it was racist or violent? I said it sounded like a kosling about Bush.

240 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:49pm

Obama reverses abortion-funding policy

It's a bitch to get pregnant outside the US...you need to plan your unplanned pregnancy.

241 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:54pm

re: #210 Racer X

Is it just me or is the MFM reporting every little thing Obama does as a major accomplishment?

Even Fox is reporting with baited breath. This honeymoon is a little to much for me.

242 logboy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:25:54pm

re: #195 DistantThunder

There is some group of congressmen who are working on overturning the 22nd ammendment.


PLEASE STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THEY MAKE US SOUND LIKE WACKOS.

243 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:04pm

re: #218 Aisha bint Abi Bakr

“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki said.

I honestly cannot fathom how any Arab woman could find any of these men worh effing.

They are not given a choice in the matter. They marry and have children when commanded to do so or they are murdered.

The house of Saud presides over murder and barbarism.

244 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:11pm

re: #232 Truck Monkey

That's right.

245 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:16pm

re: #235 vxbush

YES. I'm afraid we're going to have hour-by-hour updates soon.

"Obama went to the bathroom once this past hour and, being the greatest president who ever served, only used two squares of toilet paper to prove how green he is."

/retch

That's what Facebook "status" is for.

/retch, retch

246 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:21pm
247 jaunte  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:28pm

re: #228 Sharmuta

Tragedy befell the nation today as President 0bama suffered a paper cut on his left index finger.....

For the first time in America's history, we the people are joined as one in an owie.

248 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:48pm

re: #191 Sharmuta
Sharm, some among us shoot off at the mouth and never consider that their idle and ill considered expressions have consequences, especially since much of what we comment on here is scrutinized by others who wish to create an impression that we are vile racists and anti-semites and create an impression that makes others believe we are hate filled, anti-social obstructionists.

249 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:50pm

re: #224 vxbush
I WholeHeartely trust the opinion of the Lizard Horde. I was looking for more information so that I can ask him the right questions. Therefore, he can ask his doctor the right questions. I appreciate the help nonetheless.

250 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:52pm

re: #229 Lively

I bet Rush will have a hard time going to sleep tonight. I know I would if the PotUS talked smack about me publicly.

I'm wondering if Obama dealt this fatal blow (sarc) after Ann Coulter appeared? Those two were dynamite. A similar tactic with someone not so over the top would be quite effective.

251 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:26:57pm

re: #195 DistantThunder

There is some group of congressmen who are working on overturning the 22nd ammendment.

Why would they repeal the 22nd amendment?

252 Shay4l  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:17pm

SA are horrible allies. They spend billion$ teaching people to hate us, backstab us at every opportunity internationally, and suck us dry like a Rocky Mt Spotted Fever Oil Tick.

253 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:23pm

re: #229 Lively

I bet Rush will have a hard time going to sleep tonight. I know I would if the PotUS talked smack about me publicly.

I think Obama has invoked his name before - Rush knows that he's a lightening rod.

254 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:32pm

re: #238 Racer X

And why would Obama choose to pick a fight with a right-wing talk show host less than a week into his presidency? Doesn't that seem odd?

Well, if you fuck up 3 days in a row, maybe a little misdirection would be in order.

255 logboy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:34pm

re: #210 Racer X

Is it just me or is the MFM reporting every little thing Obama does as a major accomplishment?

Today President Obama made poopy all by himself!

256 Truck Monkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:36pm

re: #238 Racer X

And why would Obama choose to pick a fight with a right-wing talk show host less than a week into his presidency? Doesn't that seem odd?

If Bubba couldn't successfully handle Rush why would we think Barry can?

257 Racer X  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:40pm

re: #223 kansas

Maybe O took a lesson from Bush when he saw what that got him.

Hmm...

Bush ignored his critics until they got louder and stronger. Obama is planning on wiping them out early on.

258 Caliredst8r  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:48pm

Coming soon?

Russia's 106th Guards Airborne Division allowed to deploy around the UN building in New York to protect it from "unspecified threats".

Port of Long Beach leased to the People's Liberation Army Navy.

Guantanamo Bay Naval Base closed and sublet to the Venezuelan and Russian Navies.

259 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:53pm

re: #242 logboy

PLEASE STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THEY MAKE US SOUND LIKE WACKOS.

Concur. We are lizards, not Kossacks.

260 Shay4l  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:27:58pm

re: #252 Shay4l

And I forgot are probably sueless militarily.

261 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:02pm

re: #199 WhiteRasta
I cant seem to be able to e-mail you... drop me a line and I will reply.

262 Syrah  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:05pm

re: #238 Racer X

And why would Obama choose to pick a fight with a right-wing talk show host less than a week into his presidency? Doesn't that seem odd?

This is a sop to the fringe kooks. This will make Obama a hero to them.

263 jaunte  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:13pm

re: #252 Shay4l

Let's send them an extra helping of Western culture.

264 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:39pm

re: #226 UberInfidel67

This is a Marine with 24+ years of service...Infantry. He hit an IED about a year and a half ago...they told him 6 months recovery and then physical therapy. He said "Fuck that" and was back in less than two. lol lol lol lol Instead of Jarhead it should be Hardhead.

This is gonna be WAY over-simplified, but you might watch out for him after he retires. Sounds like he fits the stereotype of ... "the Corps is all he has". They can have a hard time adjusting to retirement, and sometimes don't live too long afterwards unless they find something else to put themselves into.

/just sayin' ... and as I said, it's over-simplied and stereotypical

265 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:41pm

re: #192 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.numbersusa.com...]

[Link: www.fairus.org...]

[Link: www.cis.org...]

[Link: www.alipac.us...]

[Link: www.grassfire.org...]

[Link: www.minutemanhq.com...]

Join in the fight, fax, e-mail, send money, call, there are many in this fight who know the Republicans can not and will not do it, join those who are taking a stand.

Fax, letters, emails, donations, and phone calls are the only weapons we have in this arena. Sucks to get the typical form letter, 'Dear constituant...you poor bastard, I have no intention of listening to a single thing you have to say, but nice try.' Multiple times...but I still do it.

It at least alleviates the guilt that you did all you are capable of...

266 n in wi  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:28:57pm

re: #218 Aisha bint Abi Bakr

“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki said.

I honestly cannot fathom how any Arab woman could find any of these men worh effing.


I would not assume it is consensual.

267 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:05pm

re: #251 Sharmuta

What is the 22nd amendment?

(Not an American here, so enlighten me. Thanks.)

268 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:10pm
269 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:11pm

re: #242 logboy

PLEASE STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THEY MAKE US SOUND LIKE WACKOS.

I SAW THAT REPORTED EARLIER THIS WEEK. IT WAS FLOATED BY A DEM CONGRESSMAN.

270 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:23pm

Um, before getting all bent out of shape about Obama placing a call to Abdullah and al-Turki spouting off in a British venue, let's all pause to recall the man whose administration gave us at least an additional 15,000 Saudi students (all of whom are of course accounted for, right?), whose Secretary of State told us all about the "benevolence at the heart of Islam", and who personally smooched and fondled and sword-danced and played händchenhalten with the goaty old Saudi despot at absolutely every opportunity he could find.

Youtube Video

Ka-ching!


Smack!

Cheney gets a hug.

Time will tell about Obama, but he'll have to crawl a long way up Abdullah's polypy colon before he gets anywhere close to Dubya and Dick.

271 Bob Dillon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:29pm

re: #238 Racer X

And why would Obama choose to pick a fight with a right-wing talk show host less than a week into his presidency? Doesn't that seem odd?

The odds are good but the goods are odd.

Old Alaska saying - boy girl ratio 10-1.

272 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:33pm

re: #228 Sharmuta

Tragedy befell the nation today as President 0bama suffered a paper cut on his left index finger.....

President Obama was found cowering under his desk after receiving a sternly written letter from the Prime Minister of Canada. :)

/okay, I can dream can't I?

273 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:35pm

re: #256 Truck Monkey

If Bubba couldn't successfully handle Rush why would we think Barry can?

Bubba was not from Chicago. And I believe he was in the presidency for different reasons.

274 USBeast  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:35pm

re: #174 DistantThunder

The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. In Obama's case it's lying, evading, manipulating, ignoring corruption, enabling corruption etc, etc. - and he's still the same person he always was, wo why bother to give him the benefit of the doubt.

obama and his crew have never been people of integrity, and are still not people of integrity. And it's leaking out all over...

There is always the hope of reform and the chance that donning the robes of office will change the man. On that basis, I was willing to give our new president the benefit of the doubt. It seems that he is trying to prove me wrong.

Now I have to work for the preservation of our republic. Damn.

275 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:44pm

re: #242 logboy

PLEASE STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THEY MAKE US SOUND LIKE WACKOS.

Try not to be an @ss.

A Third Term?

This is on the Chicago Tribune Website

January 20, 2009
A New York Congressman wants to make it possible for Barack Obama to one day serve a third term. Rep.e Jose Serrano (D) has introduced a bill in the House to abolish the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution, which limits presidents to two consecutive terms or 10 years in office.

He has just been inaugurated and this joker is talking about allowing a third term! This is shades of Hugo Chavez!

I think my problem is that I haven't been drinking my Obama brand Kool-Aid.

--Roger W. Peck

276 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:29:45pm

re: #249 UberInfidel67

I WholeHeartely trust the opinion of the Lizard Horde. I was looking for more information so that I can ask him the right questions. Therefore, he can ask his doctor the right questions. I appreciate the help nonetheless.

Cool. Glad to be useful. Often, I feel like a rather useless lurker around here. Not much call for someone with a math specialty. :D

277 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:09pm

re: #267 WhiteRasta

What is the 22nd amendment?

(Not an American here, so enlighten me. Thanks.)

Term limits for POTUS. Republicans passed it in response to FDR.

278 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:12pm

re: #238 Racer X

because he isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. I know others disagree with me, but I feel it in my gut, the guy is not sharp. He has been propped up his entire life and he really believes he is special - but at the end of the day, he is only as special as the guy who tells him what to do and say. He is going off script right now, and the results are going to be mind boggling.

279 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:33pm

re: #228 Sharmuta

Tragedy befell the nation today as President 0bama suffered a paper cut on his left index finger.....

... covered by the red Band-Aid of courage.

280 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:30:41pm

re: #242 logboy

PLEASE STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THEY MAKE US SOUND LIKE WACKOS.

That is not a conspiracy theory. A legislator in New York has introduced such a bill. I don't have the link but, I read the link here a few day ago.

281 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:11pm

re: #276 vxbush

Cool. Glad to be useful. Often, I feel like a rather useless lurker around here. Not much call for someone with a math specialty. :D

You're not useless at all. Sometimes, you're fun to pick on!
////

282 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:11pm

re: #261 shanec99

I can't seem to email you, either.

283 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:15pm

re: #239 Sharmuta

WTF? Where did I say it was racist or violent? I said it sounded like a kosling about Bush.

You didn't. I was just saying that it wasn't that bad because it wasn't racist or violent.
And fuck kos anyways, can't we just do our own thing here without comparing ourselves to those losers?

284 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:29pm

re: #251 Sharmuta

Why would they repeal the 22nd amendment?

To allow CBBHO to serve more than two terms.

285 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:34pm

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

And I don't play by their rules. They can try to slime, but all that means is we need to try harder. We tried picking candidate approved by the MSM in 2008 only to have them turn on him. We need to promote someone they've slimed if only to show that we can. The MSM is in bad shape, we should not treat them like they are invincible.

look I like you and all that but you're naive....you underestimate the power of the MSM...'we' doesnt mean shit to these people...look at the mess the NYT is in but they totaly deny the reason for their demise...these people will not go down without a fight to the death...watch...they will morph into the next thing they become...they will try and probably succede in shutting down blogs like this...if not they will fight to ruin our cred...these people are merciless and could care less about you, we, us, or Sarah Palin

286 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:35pm

re: #245 Lively

That's what Facebook "status" is for.

/retch, retch

Hey, with his crackberry he can do stuff like that on the fly.

/

287 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:35pm

re: #268 Iron Fist

I don't know about you, but I'm ready to vote out my senators. Especially Hatch, with his inexplicable support of Geithner.

288 sngnsgt  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:37pm

re: #241 tackle

Even Fox is reporting with baited breath. This honeymoon is a little to much for me.

You can only drop so many rose petals until you run out of roses.

289 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:50pm

re: #281 jwb7605

You're not useless at all. Sometimes, you're fun to pick on!
////

Gosh. I feel so... so...loved.

Are you my long lost brother?

/

290 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:51pm

re: #270 Cato the Elder

Um, before getting all bent out of shape about Obama placing a call to Abdullah and al-Turki spouting off in a British venue, let's all pause to recall the man whose administration gave us at least an additional 15,000 Saudi students (all of whom are of course accounted for, right?), whose Secretary of State told us all about the "benevolence at the heart of Islam", and who personally smooched and fondled and sword-danced and played händchenhalten with the goaty old Saudi despot at absolutely every opportunity he could find.


[Video]

Ka-ching!


Smack!

Cheney gets a hug.

Time will tell about Obama, but he'll have to crawl a long way up Abdullah's polypy colon before he gets anywhere close to Dubya and Dick.

I think that's part of the secret Saudi Presidential initiation ritual.

291 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:31:55pm

re: #251 Sharmuta

No term limits for the Pres. But they did this when Clinton was in, too. It's Jose Serrano at the helm of it. He just wasn't as interested in this when Bush was in office. Mystery!

292 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:32:09pm
293 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:32:12pm

re: #283 Spare O'Lake

You didn't. I was just saying that it wasn't that bad because it wasn't racist or violent.
And fuck kos anyways, can't we just do our own thing here without comparing ourselves to those losers?

Besides, they will twist and distort whatever we say anyway.

294 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:32:26pm

re: #267 WhiteRasta

What is the 22nd amendment?

(Not an American here, so enlighten me. Thanks.)

It limits the President to 2 terms, but repealing it would require another amendment to the Constitution. It would also open the Presidency up to Clinton and Bush again. Even if people are working on this, passing an amendment to the Constitution is difficult (for a reason). It takes a 2/3 vote in both houses of Congress, then a 3/4 vote by the states. I doubt they could pass this in time to help 0bama, and from logboy's comment, it sounds like it's not even happening.

295 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:32:32pm

re: #280 MandyManners

Link to the bill [Link: www.govtrack.us...]

296 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:32:34pm

re: #269 jwb7605

WHY ARE WE ALL SHOUTING? ARE THE HAMSTERS PLAYING "RUSH" CDs AGAIN?

297 Truck Monkey  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:32:37pm

re: #275 DistantThunder

He has been introducing this bill almost yearly since 1996. It has nothing to do with Obambi.

298 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:32:42pm

re: #264 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The family agrees with you. He recently got remarried. He is "happy" that he can go back overseas with his "affairs in order". He took a hit when my Dad died. I was under strict orders not to tell him that my Dad was that sick. He went back to Iraq with the "I don't give a damn if I die...you can have all my stuff" attitude. Now that he is remarried, I don't fear for him too much. He also has a daughter that gives him a reason to live. The daughter doesn't belong to his wife, but to a woman Marine. He travels from Pennsylvanie to Texas to see this little girl. Hopefully, he will remain stable. He doesn't want to leave the Marines at all. He keeps turning down orders because he doesn't want to ride a desk. Again, he has been Infantry for 24+ years. lol

299 brookly red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:32:42pm

re: #242 logboy

PLEASE STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THEY MAKE US SOUND LIKE WACKOS.

how is it a conspiracy? he campaigned on it.

300 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:01pm

re: #294 Sharmuta

No it's happening - but just like before, it will go nowheresville.

301 logboy  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:05pm

re: #269 jwb7605

I SAW THAT REPORTED EARLIER THIS WEEK. IT WAS FLOATED BY A DEM CONGRESSMAN.

You believe everything that comes out of a Democrats mouth? Next you'll be saying its true because you read it on the internet.

302 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:19pm

Charles,

is it legal for me to post my email for Shane?

Thanks.

303 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:20pm

re: #277 kansas

Term limits for POTUS. Republicans passed it in response to FDR.

As I have said before, it will not be repealed. That would take 2/3rds of both houses and the Dems do not have that many seats. And it is not an issue where there would be any GOP defections. Don't worry about it.

304 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:22pm

re: #284 MandyManners

To allow CBBHO to serve more than two terms.

Great- I nominate President Bush.

305 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:37pm

re: #296 OldLineTexan

WHY ARE WE ALL SHOUTING? ARE THE HAMSTERS PLAYING "RUSH" CDs AGAIN?

I thought his hearing aid battery was getting low, so I used my talk to the deaf voice.

306 n in wi  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:52pm

re: #255 logboy

Today President Obama made poopy all by himself!

Wnile Michelle cheered him on with,"Yes you can,yes you can."

307 Shay4l  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:54pm

Commander Zero only mentioned Rush and himself in the same sentence because he's hoping that way people will think he's as smart and influential as Rush

308 Racer X  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:55pm

Worshipping a politician always ends badly.

Give it time. I say six months, a year tops. The media will turn on him and it will be over. He has no real substance to fall back on. None. The first misstep and he is done done done.

309 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:33:57pm

re: #238 Racer X

And why would Obama choose to pick a fight with a right-wing talk show host less than a week into his presidency? Doesn't that seem odd?

Fairness Doctrine is in the works. Moonbat sense is tingling...I can feel it.

310 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:05pm

re: #301 logboy

You believe everything that comes out of a Democrats mouth? Next you'll be saying its true because you read it on the internet.

Curses. Foiled again.

311 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:10pm

re: #267 WhiteRasta

What is the 22nd amendment?

(Not an American here, so enlighten me. Thanks.)

Presidential term limits.

312 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:10pm

re: #302 WhiteRasta

Click the little box next to "show email" above the comment form.

313 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:37pm

re: #302 WhiteRasta

See that box that says "show email" on the comments page? You can blue your nic for a bit so he can get it.

314 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:40pm

re: #276 vxbush
Math? Math? I suck at math and my checkbook is a sin! What is your phone number!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! lol lol

315 jaunte  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:42pm

Three Terms for Barack Obama?

"...The theory behind the 22nd Amendment is that modern day presidents exercise too much power and authority to be allowed access to it for very long. On the other hand, the presidency is the only federal office that is term-limited. The same arguments in favor of limiting presidents' time in office can be applied to Representatives and Senators as well."


[Link: news.aol.com...]

316 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:34:52pm

re: #302 WhiteRasta

Charles,

is it legal for me to post my email for Shane?

Thanks.

Easiest way is to just click the "Show Email" button before posting a comment, then your username becomes an email link.

317 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:17pm

re: #278 ArmyWife

because he isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. I know others disagree with me, but I feel it in my gut, the guy is not sharp. He has been propped up his entire life and he really believes he is special - but at the end of the day, he is only as special as the guy who tells him what to do and say. He is going off script right now, and the results are going to be mind boggling.

I agree - no law review writings, won't release his grades -Why? What would be the harm? I think he's a suck-up sychophant and drifts to the "strong horse." In the past that happened to be Chicago crew - of a decidedly socialist bent - but that's all he's known.

Now that we know more about Chicago - I can see why Michelle said this was a mean country.

318 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:18pm

Thanks, Sharmuta.

319 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:22pm

re: #267 WhiteRasta

What is the 22nd amendment?

(Not an American here, so enlighten me. Thanks.)


Term limits on POTUS

320 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:27pm

re: #308 Racer X

Worshipping a politician always ends badly.

Give it time. I say six months, a year tops. The media will turn on him and it will be over. He has no real substance to fall back on. None. The first misstep and he is done done done.

Remember Clinton? They didn't turn on him until after he was out of office. I'm betting they are willing to ride him in.

321 slokat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:39pm

Jose Serrano first introduced this bill in what year?

322 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:35:58pm

re: #308 Racer X

Worshipping a politician always ends badly.

Give it time. I say six months, a year tops. The media will turn on him and it will be over. He has no real substance to fall back on. None. The first misstep and he is done done done.

I think Barry will personally have to offend the media in order for them to turn on him. Doing something shady won't cut it.

323 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:36:15pm

re: #314 UberInfidel67

Math? Math? I suck at math and my checkbook is a sin! What is your phone number!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! lol lol

Now, now. You'll be wanting an accountant. I can do a checkbook, but it'll cost you in chocolate.

324 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:36:22pm

re: #298 UberInfidel67

The family agrees with you. He recently got remarried. He is "happy" that he can go back overseas with his "affairs in order". He took a hit when my Dad died. I was under strict orders not to tell him that my Dad was that sick. He went back to Iraq with the "I don't give a damn if I die...you can have all my stuff" attitude. Now that he is remarried, I don't fear for him too much. He also has a daughter that gives him a reason to live. The daughter doesn't belong to his wife, but to a woman Marine. He travels from Pennsylvanie to Texas to see this little girl. Hopefully, he will remain stable. He doesn't want to leave the Marines at all. He keeps turning down orders because he doesn't want to ride a desk. Again, he has been Infantry for 24+ years. lol

My sincerest best wishes for him. My dad was 1939 Old Corps, and one of the first 50 promoted to E-8 (meritorius, when the pay grade was established), but he got out at 20 because he knew there were (had to be) other things in life besides the Corps.

325 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:36:32pm
326 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:36:33pm

re: #285 albusteve

look I like you and all that but you're naive....you underestimate the power of the MSM...'we' doesnt mean shit to these people...look at the mess the NYT is in but they totaly deny the reason for their demise...these people will not go down without a fight to the death...watch...they will morph into the next thing they become...they will try and probably succede in shutting down blogs like this...if not they will fight to ruin our cred...these people are merciless and could care less about you, we, us, or Sarah Palin

I'm not naive. I'm just not prepared to concede them the point. Let them fight; We will fight back, and we will win.

327 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:36:42pm

re: #316 Charles

Done and done. Thanks, Charles.

328 vxbush  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:08pm

Gotta go, lizards. Stay safe!

329 jaunte  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:08pm

re: #322 Lively

He's getting tired of being 'accessible.' That will turn the media against him.

330 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:11pm

re: #290 Charles

It is a nice luxury to be on the side who's not responsible but all of the "outrages" today (Kissing Saudi asses, closing Gitmo, ending aggressive interrogation, etc) have been Republican policies as well. I think people are gloating about the Obama's weakness little too much. These have been Republican weaknesses as well. I have yet to see anything Obama has done that Bush and/or McCain would have done. People are gloating instead of recognizing the "real" problem.

331 Syrah  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:14pm

re: #308 Racer X

Worshipping a politician always ends badly.

Give it time. I say six months, a year tops. The media will turn on him and it will be over. He has no real substance to fall back on. None. The first misstep and he is done done done.

I disagree.

Obama has the only two qualities that matter to the left and the MFM. He looks good and he has a golden voice. As long as he has those two qualities, he will be like a god unto them.

332 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:38pm

re: #320 Hard Right

Remember Clinton? They didn't turn on him until after he was out of office. I'm betting they are willing to ride him in.

if wishes were horses, beggers would ride...the GoP needs an offense of their own making...otherwise they lose my vote again

333 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:37:49pm

Shane,

Email me now, my key.

334 Shug  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:00pm

Repeal the 22nd Amendment so Palin can serve 3 or 4 terms

heh

335 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:06pm

re: #319 shanec99

Term limits on POTUS

I like that better. If we do anything at all to the 22nd amendment, congress should be included. SCOTUS has ruled it can't be done otherwise, in the past, for congress.

336 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:14pm

re: #329 jaunte

He's getting tired of being 'accessible.' That will turn the media against him.

Well, now's not the time for questions.
/

337 Racer X  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:28pm

re: #322 Lively

I think Barry will personally have to offend the media in order for them to turn on him. Doing something shady won't cut it.

True, but the media are in love with The One™, not so much with the man Barrack Obama. Dude has promised so much shit to so many people there is no way in hell he can deliver. I predict many of his supporters will be disappointed in the next few months.

338 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:35pm

re: #305 jwb7605

The Garrett Morris skit? LOL.

339 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:36pm

re: #325 Iron Fist

It sounded appropriate to me. I wouldn't put it past the Democrats doing something that would make this the last free and fair election we have for a long time. Democrats like people to vote, but only if they vote the right (by which I mean Left)way. How many times in how many places have the democrats tried to get absentee votes from the military thrown out? For that matter, what the fuck is up with letting two Democrats and one Republican vote on what the voter's intent was as opposed to what that voter actually voted?

The Democrats have given us ample reason to doubt that they are acting in good faith, and that was before they elected their own personal Messiah to be President.


Well, if amnesty is granted we may become a permanent political minority.

340 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:38pm

re: #323 vxbush
I can do that!

341 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:39pm

re: #280 MandyManners

That is not a conspiracy theory. A legislator in New York has introduced such a bill. I don't have the link but, I read the link here a few day ago.

Thank you. re: #322 Lively

I think Barry will personally have to offend the media in order for them to turn on him. Doing something shady won't cut it.

Nah. Offending the media won't work. They won't be objective or thorough let alone turn. I think they turned on Bush because he always turned the other cheek. O will not do that. He'll bitch slap them and keep em in line. Already doing that.

342 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:38:59pm

Hot Air also reported on the term limit bill submitted by a Democrat.

Move to repeal Presidential term limits started


Maybe I’m just being too cynical, but somehow I doubt that Rep. José Serrano introduced HJ Res 5 in order to allow George W Bush to run for a third term in office. One week ago, the New York Democrat introduced a measure to repeal the 22nd Amendment, which provides the only term limit on federal office — the Presidency. The amendment, added in 1951, restricts anyone from seeking a third term in office, and Serrano wants that repealed.

Why now? Apparently, the notion of Hope and Change has overwhelmed Serrano to the point that he just can’t stand to see Barack Obama limited to two terms in office. Never mind the fact that Obama has yet to start his first term, and no one knows yet whether he’d get re-elected in 2012. Maybe it’s that New Deal vibe; Serrano may want to prepare the way for a more tangible comparison between Obama and FDR in 2016 and 2020.

343 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:39:02pm

Shane.

344 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:39:26pm

re: #338 OldLineTexan

The Garrett Morris skit? LOL.

Couldn't remember the guy's name, but that's the one!

345 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:39:28pm

re: #341 kansas

Nah. Offending the media won't work. They won't be objective or thorough let alone turn. I think they turned on Bush because he always turned the other cheek. O will not do that. He'll bitch slap them and keep em in line. Already doing that.

And they seem to be taking it too. lol.

346 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:39:31pm

re: #326 Dark_Falcon

I'm not naive. I'm just not prepared to concede them the point. Let them fight; We will fight back, and we will win.

well I'm with you on that account...I sure have nothing to lose!

347 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:39:31pm

re: #343 WhiteRasta

Shane.

Come back!

348 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:39:58pm

re: #301 logboy

You believe everything that comes out of a Democrats mouth? Next you'll be saying its true because you read it on the internet.

See ArmyWife's No. 295 if you haven't already.

349 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:01pm

re: #330 Killgore Trout

It is a nice luxury to be on the side who's not responsible but all of the "outrages" today (Kissing Saudi asses, closing Gitmo, ending aggressive interrogation, etc) have been Republican policies as well. I think people are gloating about the Obama's weakness little too much. These have been Republican weaknesses as well. I have yet to see anything Obama has done that Bush and/or McCain would have done. People are gloating instead of recognizing the "real" problem.

Might need an edit, unless I have completely misunderstood your previous comments.

350 KarenWI  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:19pm

I've been out and am BADLY behind on reading much of anything. However, I've read 2 conflicting reports on what's happening in the MN race right now. Does anyone have the real story of where this is in MN as of tonight?

351 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:23pm
352 revobob  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:39pm

re: #237 Bobibutu

Unrealistic fantasy of mine - a party week with 30+ generations of fore-bearers - without weapons.

That WOULD be cool, but mine would have a hard time finding a common language!

353 kayfromcarroll  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:39pm

re: #82 UberInfidel67

I had that done also about 7 years ago. Once the polyps are removed, the threat is completely gone. Thus the importance of a colonoscopy at age 50 (without symptoms) or immediately upon appearance of warning symptoms. My symptoms were a dull lower front abdominal ache and slight rectal bleeding. Got a referral and had the procedure done within 2 weeks. As polyps grow very slowly, the doctor did not feel a need for regular followup. I was 41 years old at the time.

Hope this eases your mind.

His doctor will recommend any necessary followup.

354 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:44pm

re: #337 Racer X

It's not so much that the MFM love Obama, it's that they hate GWB so much.

355 Hard Right  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:49pm

re: #332 albusteve

if wishes were horses, beggers would ride...the GoP needs an offense of their own making...otherwise they lose my vote again

Yup. We need gutter fighters and we have mostly pre-teen 90 pound weeklings. It may take years to build up the proper base. That's time we don't have.

356 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:49pm

re: #347 Bloodnok

Come back!

Wasn't that one obnoxious young boy (couldn't act worth a damn.)

357 USBeast  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:40:54pm

Gotta go, Lizards. Tomorrow my DD is going into the second leg of the state wide spelling bee. I have to get her there and still show up for work.

"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all..."

358 Ben F  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:30pm

I'm sure that Prince Turki must be delighted with Obama's choice of George Mitchell as Middle East envoy. Mitchell is as responsible as anyone for establishing the moral equivalence between life (aka growth of "settlements") and murder (aka terrorism).

359 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:42pm

re: #301 logboy

You believe everything that comes out of a Democrats mouth? Next you'll be saying its true because you read it on the internet.

I read in the grocery store today that Oprah is jealous of Michelle.
/not kidding

360 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:54pm

re: #357 USBeast

good luck to your DD!

361 Racer X  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:54pm

CAPS and BOLD?

Why are you people yelling at me?

362 WhiteRasta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:56pm

Goodnight all.

G-d Bless.

363 Bloodnok  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:41:56pm

re: #357 USBeast

Gotta go, Lizards. Tomorrow my DD is going into the second leg of the state wide spelling bee. I have to get her there and still show up for work.

"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all..."

Good luck DD!

364 Shay4l  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:42:00pm

re: #331 Syrah

I disagree.

Obama has the only two qualities that matter to the left and the MFM. He looks good and he has a golden voice. As long as he has those two qualities, he will be like a god unto them.

Oh man! That's why the Hollyweird people hate Bush so much. They would have had to do a thousand takes until he said his lines in a perfect accent like their acting coaches told them they had to.

365 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:42:06pm

re: #324 pre-Boomer Marine brat
My bro has been pro-military since we were little kids. He used to go to the local Navy recruiter office and hang all day. In the windows, they had the model airplanes that he made. He used to hand some from his bedroom ceiling with cotton balls dipped in methiolate (for color) in a dive bomb formation. He was nothing but military. My Dad was a Sailor...USS Yosemite...plank-owner on the USS Jonh King. Bro turned to the Corp and hasn't looked back. Just wanted to share. lol

366 slokat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:42:23pm

re: #342 DistantThunder

In each of 1997, 1999, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2007, and 2009, Serrano introduced a joint resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd Amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as president. Each resolution, with the exception of the current one, died without ever getting past the committee.

367 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:42:29pm

re: #339 Hard Right

Well, if amnesty is granted we may become a permanent political minority.

that's the point and it's almost assuredly gonna happen...we are fuckto rama....

368 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:42:41pm

re: #350 KarenWI

I think that wrestler guy is in the lead.

369 ArmyWife  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:42:48pm

I am going to read a bit and then go to bed. Be good to each other - we may be all we have left. ;)

370 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:42:53pm
371 kansas  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:43:04pm

re: #350 KarenWI

I've been out and am BADLY behind on reading much of anything. However, I've read 2 conflicting reports on what's happening in the MN race right now. Does anyone have the real story of where this is in MN as of tonight?

Last I read is that court denied Franken's motion to stop the contest and the contest phase will proceed next week.

372 DistantThunder  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:43:10pm

re: #366 slokat

In each of 1997, 1999, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2007, and 2009, Serrano introduced a joint resolution proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the 22nd Amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as president. Each resolution, with the exception of the current one, died without ever getting past the committee.

But everything is different now.

373 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:43:26pm

re: #329 jaunte

He's getting tired of being 'accessible.' That will turn the media against him.

He's desperately trying to retain his chummy relationship with them, hoping that will earn him some lasting goodwill. Imagine if Bush would have said, "I'm not going to answer your question but let's just chitchat for awhile..."

374 slokat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:43:31pm

re: #366 slokat

forgot to say that that was a quote from his wiki entry...

375 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:43:55pm

re: #365 UberInfidel67

My bro has been pro-military since we were little kids. He used to go to the local Navy recruiter office and hang all day. In the windows, they had the model airplanes that he made. He used to hand some from his bedroom ceiling with cotton balls dipped in methiolate (for color) in a dive bomb formation. He was nothing but military. My Dad was a Sailor...USS Yosemite...plank-owner on the USS Jonh King. Bro turned to the Corp and hasn't looked back. Just wanted to share. lol

He definitely sounds like a good man and a great guy.

I've gotta get out of here for the evening.
You have a good one!

376 n in wi  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:03pm

re: #342 DistantThunder
I'd like to see if the amendment where to be overturned,and then Bush run and beat little boy Barry.

377 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:21pm

Good night all!

378 Lively  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:33pm

Good night lizards.

379 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:44:59pm
380 UberInfidel67  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:12pm

re: #353 kayfromcarroll
I don't know what led him to the doctor. Do they need checked before they ship out overseas? He IS 43 and pushing 44 so I will ask him what led him to getting a colonoscopy. Thank you for your concern...it is much appreciated : )

381 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:13pm

re: #351 taxfreekiller

just could be McCain by being such a shit will pull Obama into a
illegal immigration fight with the American people and they will both
get out voted

its not the same on the job deal now
the unions are not doing all that good
the builders are still laying off illegals
Americans in fact are so broke many will
mow their own yards next year or two

not many can afford the nanny thing now

there are many, many new org.'s now, plus
all the ones from prior

Obama is way into his ego now, just could be he has over rated himself by use of the mirror.

I really hope you are right bro...maybe the economy will dry out this 'need' for alien labor

382 solomonpanting  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:15pm

With all due respect, talk of repealing the 22nd Amendment is a fantasy. Looking at ArmyWife's No. 295 link will show:

Sponsor: Rep. José Serrano [D-NY] (no cosponsors)

Ron Paul would have a larger support base.

383 KarenWI  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:36pm

re: #361 Racer X

CAPS and BOLD?

Why are you people yelling at me?

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't see very well.... and need the bold in able to see. In fact, I really wish I could change the font and color in here to make it a little bit easier for me to see....

384 sngnsgt  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:45:37pm

re: #377 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Good night all!

re: #378 Lively

Good night lizards.

Good Night.

385 So?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:46:33pm

Will they offer the same support as their Saudi Rehabilitation Center?

386 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:46:43pm

re: #382 solomonpanting

With all due respect, talk of repealing the 22nd Amendment is a fantasy. Looking at ArmyWife's No. 295 link will show:

Sponsor: Rep. José Serrano [D-NY] (no cosponsors)

Ron Paul would have a larger support base.

seems to intrigue alot of viewers tho....makes me wonder

387 KarenWI  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:47:02pm

re: #368 Lively

I think that wrestler guy is in the lead.

....wasn't that a different election? This one is the radio talk guy or something... Franken-frankenstein.....

388 n in wi  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:47:23pm

re: #371 kansas

Last I read is that court denied Franken's motion to stop the contest and the contest phase will proceed next week.

I think Coleman filed a class action suit today,or will on Monday.

389 jwb7605  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:47:29pm

I'm out too!
Somebody pick on VX for me, OK?

390 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:47:51pm

This had to have been stated...BUT

We should have let saddam, kick the sauds ass...then had a daily double. No wahhabi, no Saddam

391 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:48:15pm

re: #383 KarenWI

Try tinkering with your settings in "My Account" up by the log in box.

392 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:48:19pm

re: #359 Lively

I read in the grocery store today that Oprah is jealous of Michelle.
/not kidding

I got 20 bucks on Michelle... hands down. No contest.

393 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:48:33pm
394 KarenWI  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:49:15pm

re: #388 n in wi

I think Coleman filed a class action suit today,or will on Monday.

Gosh, I hope you're right. That was one of the two I read. The other one I read was saying that the court threw out Coleman's request to have 174 votes looked at, and threw out his request to have absentee ballots counted in.....

395 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:49:17pm

re: #391 Sharmuta

I still like you and respect your opinions.

396 n in wi  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:49:41pm

re: #392 Oh no...Sand People!

I got 20 bucks on Michelle... hands down. No contest.

I don't know Oprah's been bulking up.

397 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:50:05pm

re: #383 KarenWI

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't see very well.... and need the bold in able to see. In fact, I really wish I could change the font and color in here to make it a little bit easier for me to see....

KarenWI, you do what you have to do...the hell with anyone else.

398 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:50:10pm

re: #396 n in wi

I don't know Oprah's been bulking up.

LOL!

399 tackle  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:50:50pm

“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki said.
This sentence gives me pause. What would such a drastic revision entail? It seems the only acceptable "revision" would be for all the Jews to relocate to Hawaii (or whatever silly solution our mad Libyan president offered).

400 jorline  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:50:50pm

Watching Blago on Greta...how did this guy ever get elected?

Cowboys. horse thieves, hanging...more cowboys...yada...yada...yada

STFU

401 So?  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:51:02pm

re: #270 Cato the Elder

RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

402 mich-again  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:51:05pm

re: #290 Charles

I think that's part of the secret Saudi Presidential initiation ritual.

Sword Dance!

403 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:51:31pm

re: #393 Iron Fist

I don't know that it changes anything that I write, but it is nice to get some general feedback about how I'm being viewed by the minions as a whole.

Everyone knows not to fuck with Iron Fist. Except me. I know you're a fuzzy, huggable kitten. ;)

404 van helsing  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:51:32pm

So The One says GOP (hah) senators shouldn't listen to Limbaugh...

Perhaps The One and the other donks should quit listening to Lenin, er Stalin, um, Mao, oh crap - Wright, no geez, Ayers no really, I got it this time Sauron uh, Soros. That's the one. Quit listening to Soros.

405 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:51:33pm

re: #383 KarenWI

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't see very well.... and need the bold in able to see. In fact, I really wish I could change the font and color in here to make it a little bit easier for me to see....

Here's a neat trick. If you have a scroll mouse, hold the [ctrl] key then scroll up. It will increase the size of the web page.

/at least that's what I can do.

406 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:51:50pm

re: #395 Spare O'Lake

And I like you too.

407 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:52:13pm

Rasta, you should have received an email from me.

408 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:52:22pm
409 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:52:27pm

Iron Fist, you still here, brother?

This could be one of those nights with REAL beer bottles...not that plastic shit, they handed us.

410 MandyManners  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:53:02pm

re: #369 ArmyWife

I am going to read a bit and then go to bed. Be good to each other - we may be all we have left. ;)

Sweet dreams!

411 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:53:24pm

re: #393 Iron Fist

Charles has built all kinds of neat gegaws into LGF. It takes a lot of work, but it also makes things better/easier on us. One example is the karma system. On a busy day, I may put up 20-30 posts (maybe more), and that takes a lot of time to search through and find if you've been dinged up or down. With the karma, I can see how my controbution is trending by looking at my user profile. I don't know that it changes anything that I write, but it is nice to get some general feedback about how I'm being viewed by the minions as a whole.

still on probation.....:)
jus kidding

412 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:53:42pm

BTW I never knew you were a Boston fan (inside joke, only for Jamaicans).

413 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:54:26pm

re: #349 OldLineTexan

I have yet to see anything Obama has done that Bush and/or McCain would have done.

McCain pledge to close Gitmo, which Obama did. Bush kissed the collective asses, which Buch has done for the past 8 years. Obama relaxed the regulations on embryonic stem cell, as McCain would have done. Obama nixed the rules on aggressive interrogations as McCain pledged we would have. Despite the outpouring of outrage we have not yet seen anything Bush or McCain would have done (aside from relaxing the rules on abortion and birth control counseling in foreign aid)....which is something I support. We are not witnessing outrageous things these past few days. We are witnessing what was going to happen no matter who was elected. The differences are completely cosmetic.

414 KarenWI  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:54:55pm

re: #391 Sharmuta

Try tinkering with your settings in "My Account" up by the log in box.

Thank you... that seems to have helped some. It's tough when you can't see like everyone else, LOL.... I shouldn't complain; I was almost totally blind, and if it weren't for my transplants from people who donated their eyes when they died I wouldn't be seeing at ALL...

415 shanec99  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:55:16pm

Thank you Charles, appreciate the assist.

416 EE  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:56:19pm

It is incredible that the Saudis, who educated almost all of the 9/11 terrorists that attacked us, should speak so insultingly about our immediately prior president, and also so rudely and threateningly to our new president.

How dare they?

417 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:56:56pm

re: #413 Killgore Trout

KT...READING FAIL on your part.

That is not a cute edit on my part...that is your post. Check your verbs.

418 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:57:26pm

re: #414 KarenWI

Thank you... that seems to have helped some. It's tough when you can't see like everyone else, LOL.... I shouldn't complain; I was almost totally blind, and if it weren't for my transplants from people who donated their eyes when they died I wouldn't be seeing at ALL...

Bless you Karen AND people that donate.

419 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:57:40pm

re: #416 EE

It is incredible that the Saudis, who educated almost all of the 9/11 terrorists that attacked us, should speak so insultingly about our immediately prior president, and also so rudely and threateningly to our new president.

How dare they?


of course not...are you really surprised?

420 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:59:02pm

re: #417 OldLineTexan

KT...READING FAIL on your part.

That is not a cute edit on my part...that is your post. Check your verbs.

verbs are over rated...no big deal

421 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:59:20pm
422 albusteve  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:00:38pm

re: #421 Iron Fist

My Girlfriend says the same thing. I dunno. I don't see the same thing, but then I know myself well.

:-)

so are you cuddly or not?...wtf?

423 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:01:13pm

re: #421 Iron Fist

My Girlfriend says the same thing. I dunno. I don't see the same thing, but then I know myself well.

:-)

I'll have you all know that Iron Fist is the kindest, most gentle person I know...EXCEPT when he gets that damn grin....:)

424 KarenWI  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:01:18pm

re: #420 albusteve

verbs are over rated...no big deal

Especially ACTION verbs.... or, let's see "every action has an equal and opposite reaction" or something like that, right? Hmmm.... so every action verb would have an equal and opposite action? I must be tired... I'm thinking like our new president:
confused and not understanding the subject.

425 Sharmuta  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:30pm

re: #414 KarenWI

Thank you... that seems to have helped some. It's tough when you can't see like everyone else, LOL.... I shouldn't complain; I was almost totally blind, and if it weren't for my transplants from people who donated their eyes when they died I wouldn't be seeing at ALL...

That's exactly why I'm a donor. Glad I could help you, and someday I'll be able to help someone else.

426 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:02:56pm
427 panamahat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:03:42pm

re: #112 Dark_Falcon

Bobby Jindal, Michael Steele, New Governor of Puerto Rico.....

428 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:04:46pm

re: #426 Iron Fist

Yeah, man, I'm here. A plastic beer bottle is an almost sacreligious thing. What can you do with it? If you hit somebody over the head with it you might make them say "Owie!" That's impressive. Not.

You can't even break the bottom out and have a decent little improvised knife. Wah.

Where's the fun in that?

My kind of guy...THAT is exactly why I traded mine in...LOL...Y'a just never know.

429 EE  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:05:32pm

The tests have started. This is an early test, but it probably won't be the last. And if they are not answered well, the tests may start to get rougher, and not only by the Saudis.

430 mich-again  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:05:40pm

I say it was foolish strategy by Obama to so quickly and publicly dismantle anti-terror intelligence operations.

If there is one thing Bush-Cheney got right, it was protecting the homeland from another 9/11 style attack. And now Obama is taking full responsibility if some sleeper succeeds at some plot that may have very well eluded detection even with the full force of the Bush era tactics.

Obama obviously wants to make a big splash each time he parts with Bush policy but its dumb to brag about how your dumping the policies that actually worked.

431 KarenWI  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:07:44pm

re: #425 Sharmuta

That's exactly why I'm a donor. Glad I could help you, and someday I'll be able to help someone else.

You will. People have no idea how valuable it is to be able to see until they lose it. They don't know what it's like to have to ask everyone to take you anyplace- even the dr or the store, and try to fit it into THEIR schedules out of the goodness of their hearts. You have no idea what it's like looking for a shelf-stocker in the store to help you see what you're buying. ...or taking a HUGE magnifying glass along just to see if you're buying soup or vegetables. You can't watch tv... just listen to it. You can't read, and if you use the internet you have to have a huge adapter on it to magnify things so huge that a few words take up the whole screen. That takes a lot of time to read through, but your eyes get too tired to do very much of it. Now, with my contact lenses, I really can see 20/20 in both eyes. Unfortunately, I have some kind of problem with my stitches in my eyes today; I went to the dr because I thought one of them had popped; but it wasn't.... it was just a HUGE abrasion in my eyes that hurts like that dickens, so I can't wear my contacts. My vision, unfortunately, can't be corrected to even 20/80 with glasses, but with hard contacts it can be corrected. It's just the pits when I can't wear them for one reason or another. Actually, if you click on my name you'll see one of the websites I have. I own a free Yahoo support group for people who have the same disease I had.... and people join it on the brink of suicide because not only are they going blind, but each of their kids has a 50% chance of inheriting it from them. It's a real downer. It's donors like you who give us hope! We have a new chance at life again like normal people! Thank you!

432 Van Helsing  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:09:21pm

re: #430 mich-again

Just because he says that he's shutting that down doesn't necessarily make it so.

It's not like The One has to worry about any investigative reports by the New York Times coming out.

Yet.

433 Haverwilde  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:09:28pm

re: #330 Killgore Trout

I have yet to see anything Obama has done that Bush and/or McCain would have done.

One thing comes right to mind. He is on the attack. He goes after his enemies--Rush, GOP, etc.

Neither Bush or McCain are any good at that. Thus paving the way for a Democratic landslide.

434 looking closely  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:11:44pm

So the Saudis miss Saddam Hussein, is that it?

The Saudis have never been an honest broker with respect to Israel, and they never will be.

435 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:11:50pm

Obama zings LimbaughShould post this at my place...but, check this out...

You know, this Obama guy needs his attention elsewhere, beside himself, that is...whether anyone likes Rush or not...this dude is President...not some one on a talent try out show...get with BIG O.

436 mich-again  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:12:19pm

re: #432 Van Helsing

Just because he says that he's shutting that down doesn't necessarily make it so.

Perception is reality. If Obama says he is shutting them down then any attack becomes his fault even if nothing ever changed. Thats my point. He has nothing to gain and everything to lose with that tack.

437 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:07pm

re: #431 KarenWI

Glad to hear that. My mom is mostly blind as well. Early onset of cataracts when she was a teenager. Fortunately for her laser eye surgery was able to give her some vision. I still find it humourous to watch the expression of people when my mom pulls out her monocular to read something on a screen that's ten feet or so away. How she watches t.v. as well. But I have said this before, she's one tough cookie, and she will probably bury me first. :)

/joke I say to her from time to time. She has lived cleaner then me.

438 ciaospirit  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:24pm

re: #242 logboy

PLEASE STOP THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THEY MAKE US SOUND LIKE WACKOS.

re: #259 Dark_Falcon

Concur. We are lizards, not Kossacks.

Check your facts before comparing other lizards to Kossacks.

Hoyer Introduces Bipartisan Bill to Repeal 22nd Amendment
Resolution Would Repeal Two-Term Limit for President, Restore Power to the People

WASHINGTON, DC – House Democratic Whip Steny H. Hoyer (MD) introduced bipartisan legislation today to repeal the 22nd amendment, which states that “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.” Representatives Berman (D-CA), Pallone (D-NJ), Sabo (D-MN) and Sensenbrenner (R-WI) joined Hoyer in sponsoring the resolution.

439 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:13:26pm

damn...left out IT...get with IT, Big O!

440 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:14:03pm
441 ciaospirit  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:15:45pm

re: #435 Elcid

Obama zings LimbaughShould post this at my place...but, check this out...

You know, this Obama guy needs his attention elsewhere, beside himself, that is...whether anyone likes Rush or not...this dude is President...not some one on a talent try out show...get with BIG O.

I take it B Hussein did this after Rush went off the air?

442 Van Helsing  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:16:06pm

re: #436 mich-again

I see your point and it's a good one. My concern is that he may actually believe the hype about himself.

443 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:18:11pm
444 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:19:21pm

re: #441 ciaospirit

I take it B Hussein did this after Rush went off the air?

I guess...Of course the Big O, could grab his shoulders and stare him in the eye, as he did with that sissy press boy.

You don't know how many sets of parents were always tearful at our front door, when their young man did that to me....When I heard Giovanni..., man...bad news from the folks...lol

445 panamahat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:19:54pm

re: #202 albusteve

re: #202 albusteve

what can you do to prevent the MSM sliming whoever they want?...nothing...the MSM is an extremely powerful institution...they dont give a rats ass what you think....

Albusteve, don't mean to sound critical . . . . BUT . . . . negative thinking is not getting us anywhere. We need solutions, action, putting pressure on the bad guys in the GOP, finding the good ones and working with them. We're up the creek at the moment and pooh-poohing every idea that comes down the track will not get us back into the game.

446 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:21:48pm

re: #443 Iron Fist

He wants to get into a pissing contest with Rush? Not exactly the brightest candle in the candlabra, is he? This could get very interesting.

Very interesting...

This asshole has a country to run into the ground he had best get with it...this silly ass shit of arrogance and smug, ain't gonna cut it.

But if the dude wants interesting...hell, we'll get it there, bro.

447 looking closely  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:22:09pm

re: #133 vxbush

Having just gone through something similar, may I ask a followup question: were these tubular-villous polyps, tubular polyps, or villous polyps? (My spelling may be off.) It matters which one it was, if you know.


Not so much.

Its true that in theory, the rarer villous ones are more likely to "go bad", but that distinction mattered more thirty years ago before modern colonoscopy, when there were just fixed proctoscopes and barium enemas, and it wasn't so easy to take out polyps without major surgery.

Nowadays with the wonder colonoscopes, the distinction between tubular adenomas and villous adenomas (or the semi-arbitrary tubulo-villous or villo-tubular ones) isn't quite so important.

In either case, the lesion needs to be totally removed, if possible. The vast majority of the time, this can be done endoscopically, without surgery.

The more important distinctions (if you want to subclassify these things), is whether the lesion in question is a raised polyp, or a flat (eg "sessile") one, and whether or it has high-grade dysplasia, which is a more advanced pre-cancerous change. The flat lesions may require surgery to remove, and removal is considered mandatory if the lesion in question has high-grade dysplasia.

448 PineCone  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:23:23pm

“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,” Turki said.

Well Mr. President, it has only been thee days and the Saudis are already calling you out. I'm interested in seeing what you and Hillary are going to do about it. You see, most of us have been watching the situation between Israel and Palestine for decades and realize that the Palis have been playing the world (and the United States in particular) for suckers for a very long time and getting away with it.

This ain't Chicago. The Arabs play by a different set of rules that are much rougher than what you grew up with. We are watching to see if you have the brass to call their hand.

449 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:25:23pm

re: #448 PineCone

Terrifically stated.

450 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:04pm
451 mich-again  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:29:05pm

Interesting story here regarding outgoing US Ambassador to Iraq, Ryan C. Crocker, a man who I think would make an excellent Presidential candidate in 2012.

Back in 2002..

then Secretary of State, Colin Powell ordered Crocker and then Special Assistant to the Secretary of State, William Burns to prepare a secret memo examining the risks associated with a U.S. invasion of Iraq. The six-paged memo, titled "The Perfect Storm", stated that toppling Saddam Hussein could unleash long-repressed sectarian and ethnic tensions, that the Sunni minority would not easily relinquish power, and that powerful neighbors such as Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia would try to move in to influence events. It also cautioned that the United States would have to start from scratch building a political and economic system because Iraq's infrastructure was in tatters.

And now..

BAGHDAD, Jan. 22 -- Ryan C. Crocker, the outgoing U.S. ambassador to Iraq, warned Thursday that a precipitous withdrawal of American troops runs "some very serious risks," from the resurgence of the insurgent group al-Qaeda in Iraq to a collapse of faith in a nascent Iraqi state that still faces what he called "enormous challenges."
A loss of confidence, Crocker said, could create a "chilling effect," where people "pull back, dig the trenches, build the berms and get ready for what comes next.

President Obama, ignore Ryan Crocker at your own peril.

452 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:31:15pm

The Ruskies root for the Big O. "Russia was never safe during George W. Bush’s stay in the office"

Well gee shit, I wonder why..."Soviets"?

453 EE  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:31:58pm

The Saudi princes have long been very conservative about taking risks. This sort of behavior on their part seems reckless. And this guy is an Ambassador to the US, no less.

His rudeness and threatening behavior go well beyond what might be expected for some testing and probing of a new president. The fact that our new president is a black man may have been the immediate cause of this contemptuous behavior on the part of this Turki jerk. The Saudi princes may look down on black men as only being fit for slaves. That racism may be part of the reason for this sort of despicable threatening behavior by this PoS.

454 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:33:09pm

re: #450 Iron Fist

Obama reminds me of Mussolini. They've got the chin jutting , down their nose-looking, "Do You Know Who I Am?!" arogant pose down to a tee. I wonder if he's spent hours and hours staring at himself to get the look just right...

Then out pop his ears, and he flies around the room in a rage :-)

Yeah well...the Big O, should take a close look at Mussolinis last picture. Talk about a dangling participle.

455 panamahat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:36:56pm

re: #332 albusteve

Again?

456 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:37:01pm

Ya' know, it feels great not posting about the state of the world, although ultra important (yea yea...no shit) just commenting at an great tavern like Charles has, does wonders for the soul.

457 panamahat  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:42:17pm

re: #355 Hard Right

Yup. We need gutter fighters and we have mostly pre-teen 90 pound weeklings. It may take years to build up the proper base. That's time we don't have.

It's like drilling. If we don't start now, we'll never have oil -- or a proper base.

Seems to me there are some fighters on this blog.

458 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:44:10pm

In fact, the bier is on me...well OK, inside...picky, picky. Think I'll have another....What does everyone want?...I have Pilsner Urquell and Pilsner Urquell quite good Czech bier

459 Mich-again  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:48:36pm

re: #458 Elcid

I'll take a shell of cold.

460 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:51:24pm

re: #459 Mich-again

I'll take a shell of cold.

Comin' up, my friend from way back....lol. OH and I'll drink to that. Cheers.

461 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:52:46pm

Fist, you still around? Awww man, don't tell me I have to check threads.

462 RubyTuesday  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:53:15pm

To reiterate what 40% of the populace has known all along: O is in over his head and too arrogant to realize it. Or too possessed by Chicago politics and his racist and Islam-tolerant views. At any rate, the other 60% needs to snap out of their delusions PDQ.

463 Render  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:53:45pm

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

"Just prior to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, Prince Turki was removed from his post as chief of Saudi Arabia's Foreign Intelligence Service, a position he held for 25 years. Most explanations for his abrupt departure revolved around his controversial ties to Osama bin Laden. Prince Turki himself admitted to meeting with bin Laden several times during the 1980s in the hopes of recruiting him to join the fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Bin Laden later became a sworn enemy of the royal family after King Fahd agreed to back the U.S. during the Gulf War and his Saudi citizenship was revoked in 1994. In 1998, some sources reported that Prince Turki had secretly negotiated with Taliban leader Mullah Omar for bin Laden's extradition. But others, such as the families of 9/11 victims, charged that Turki had actually paid protection money to al-Qaeda in exchange for promises not to attack the kingdom or make moves to destabilize its government. Yet another theory held that Turki was a victim of a complex power struggle that pitted Prince Nayef against Crown Prince Abdullah."

"Prince Turki took over the important position of Ambassador to the United States after Prince Bandar stepped down from the post in July, 2005. Prince Turki is viewed as a capable, Westernized politician who may be receptive to pressure from Washington that the Saudi government do more to fight terror within its borders."

Quote: "No matter how exalted the aims of the U.S. in the [Iraq] war, in the final analysis it was a colonial war very similar to the wars conducted by the ex-colonial powers when they went out to conquer the rest of the world."

===

I say...

End the House of Saud's illegal occupation of the once Jewish city of Medina and the Arabian Peninsula.

Saudi Arabia is a racist, bigoted, apartheid state.

BY
EVERY
DEFINITION,
R

464 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:03pm

Cause Sir Charles threads are a tad lager LARGER then mine.

465 itellu3times  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:54:29pm

Pure bluster.

The Saudis (meaning the royal family) are scared nearly kosher by the Persians, not to mention the recent plunge in their oil earnings without which they will lose the country in five years in any case.

Turki is just yanking Obambi's chain, but then Obambi may like that, for all we know.

466 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 8:56:15pm

re: #462 RubyTuesday

To reiterate what 40% of the populace has known all along: O is in over his head and too arrogant to realize it. Or too possessed by Chicago politics and his racist and Islam-tolerant views. At any rate, the other 60% needs to snap out of their delusions PDQ.

Unfortunately, I believe those 60% are Jonestown types, waiting for Congressmen to kill and their Kool-Aid.

467 [deleted]  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:24:31pm
468 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:28:01pm

Obama as regards to House of Saud: Bought, stupid or both, the smart play is both.

469 Elcid  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:29:10pm

re: #467 Iron Fist

I'm here, but I'm fixing to hit the sack. I'll check this thread in the morning.

Ok Bro'. Have a good one.

470 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:38:52pm

re: #69 Kreuzueber Halbmond

He's the Messiah. He could sign an executive order and make Saudi Arabia disappear.

K-H -

He COULD - AND - He WON'T - Follow the Money. That is all.

-S-

471 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 9:42:04pm

re: #463 Render

Render -

Remember STONE COLD MEDINA! That is all.

-S-

472 pegcity  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 10:32:44pm

as bender would say,

Were Boned
473 dak  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:10:28am
“If the U.S. wants to continue playing a leadership role in the Middle East and keep its strategic alliances intact — especially its ‘special relationship’ with Saudi Arabia — it will have to drastically revise its policies vis-a-vis Israel and Palestine,”

What if the U.S. doesn't, and decides that Saudi Arabia should instead have a "special relationship" with Iran as their bitch?

474 hazzyday  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:45:55am

Obama like Prince Charles is ripe for conversion to Islam.

475 Joan  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:03:01am

re: #79 jaunte

Unhappy Irony. Let's go with that. I'm seriously in danger of contracting ODS (pronounced "odious") Obama Derangement Syndorme

476 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:08:34am
477 FrogMarch  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:18:10am

The Saudis and the left both want the US to drop Israel.
screw them. big Q - will Hopenchange oblige?

478 paybacktime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:23:30am

Somebody should tell this saudi scumbag Price Turkey...

"the Saudis are putting ties with the US at risk due to Saudi associations with al-qada, osama bin laden, hamas, hezbullah".

479 proud to be an infidel  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 11:00:39am

I get so freeking sick of these Arab states wanting the U.S. to rein in Israel. They criticize us for our relationship to Israel and letting Israel do anything they want BUT will they do anything to rein in hamas? Will they condemn hamas's actions and the shooting of 8,000 rockets at Israeli citizens during the past 8 years? Will they criticize hamas suicide bombers blowing up Israeli citizens including children? Nooooo! You will not read ANY criticism of hamas in any Arab newspaper. They buddy up to hamas while we're supposed to trash Israel. There is no compromising with these idiots! I hope Obama sticks to his guns and does not waver in his support of Israel. If he does this, you will see the same slander and vitriol directed at him in the Arab newspaper editorials as there was against President Bush. American politics and foreign policy are the things the Arabs LOVE to hate!

480 Miss Molly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 11:21:19am

Hazzyday -- You are close to an answer that certainly Obama has made no secret of his closeness to Muslims or his desire to be close to Muslims. That said, I don't see the Arabs liking him unless he gives them everything they want.

481 AuntAcid  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 11:36:33am

America on her knees. Not a pretty picture.

482 pocomoco  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:54:48pm

Biden made a statement saying: “The Presidency is not On-The-Job-Training.”
I beg to differ because that is exactly what Obama is going through now as the Saudis give him a lesson in reality.

483 tsionguy  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:58:42pm

re: #463 Render

[Link: www.pbs.org...]

"End the House of Saud's illegal occupation of the once Jewish city of Medina and the Arabian Peninsula. Saudi Arabia is a racist, bigoted, apartheid state.
BY EVERY DEFINITION",
R

I wholeheartedly agree.
Render unto Render all praise that is due!

484 tsionguy  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:13:41pm

re: #358 Ben F

If implemented in the US, the Roadmap's prohibition of Jewish settlement expansion would be called red-lining, or racial segregation. The requirement of dismantling Jewish settlements would be called ethnic cleansing. All of it would be correctly labeled anti-semitism. What a difference between our principles "over here" and "over there."

485 califleftyb  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:23:51pm

With the price of oil dropping like a rock, it won't be long before the Saudis are melting their gold plated toilets to pay for water.

486 strandedsf  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:31:45pm

Ah, so Bush left a sickening legacy in the Middle East? Saddam Hussein...not so much.

Got it.

487 right_in_canada  Sun, Jan 25, 2009 8:34:26am

re: #45 tackle

Obama to GOP: You just can't listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done.

Yeah OK Whatever !

By the way (and Rush has pointed out several times recently) Republicans are not listening to him ! If they were they would be still winning elections!


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