Overnight Hopen Thread

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Open • Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 11:09 pm PST • Views: 121

O most pernicious woman!
O, villain, villain, smiling, damned villain!
My tables, — meet it is I set it down,
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain.

William Shakespeare, Hamlet

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1 Cognito  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:10:49pm

Ah, Billy Shakes.

2 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:13:46pm

Day 5 of 44's reign and still hopen today is better than yesterday. Some how I doubt it though.

3 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:14:07pm

re: #2 Erik The Red

Day 5 of 44's reign and still hopen today is better than yesterday. Some how I doubt it though.

Morning Lizards.

4 esch  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:20:36pm

They've got HopenChange. I've got HopenRage.

Yeah, you won, dipshit. Doesn't make you a fucking emperor.

5 Cygnus  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:20:54pm

Ahh - I love the smell of new thread in the morning!

6 itellu3times  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:23:07pm

Did Obama take the oath again yet today? I have a feeling the old ones have worn off already.

7 Rob with a mind  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:23:15pm

Interesting Statistics


Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law,
St. Paul, Minnesota, points out facts of 2008 Presidential election:
Number of States won by:
Democrats: 19
Republicans: 29
Square miles of land won by:
Democrats: 580,000
Republicans: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:
Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Democrats: 13.2
Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds:
"In aggregate, the map of the territory won by Republicans
was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.
Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare.
Professor Olson believes the United States is now somewhere
between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's
definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation'
population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to
the USA in fewer than five years

8 Tamron  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:27:30pm

ENVIRONMENTALISM AS RELIGION - Michael Crichton

"...Today, one of the most powerful religions in the Western World is environmentalism. Environmentalism seems to be the religion of choice for urban atheists. Why do I say it's a religion? Well, just look at the beliefs. If you look carefully, you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect 21st century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths.

There's an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature, there's a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a judgment day coming for us all. We are all energy sinners, doomed to die, unless we seek salvation, which is now called sustainability. Sustainability is salvation in the church of the environment. Just as organic food is its communion, that pesticide-free wafer that the right people with the right beliefs, imbibe."

Michael Crichton video:

9 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:28:45pm

re: #2 Erik The Red

I am a Reagan republican who is starting to look at the Clinton presidency with nostalgia. Lord, help me.

10 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:28:47pm

What happened on day 4 in the Hope Administration I did't feel up to seeing what he did to ruin the country earlier today.

11 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:29:58pm

re: #7 Rob with a mind

or hello to a civil war...

12 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:30:51pm

re: #9 BatGuano

Lord, help all of us.

13 Rob with a mind  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:32:49pm

Civil War with what weapons, and where do I move?

14 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:33:12pm

re: #8 Tamron

I gave you an upding for keeping Michael Crichton's name alive. He was unique.

15 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:34:26pm

Shakespeare is no Raymond Chandler, but at least it isn't yet another "Plan 9" quote...

after 5 days of Juggy's ignorance and willful stupidity, i say we get shitfaced drunk and make snarky posters like this...

CHEERS!

16 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:34:26pm

Posted as part of a response in the prior thread.

Gaza like tunnel system under the US / Mexico border:

I've written about so many cross border tunnels that I start to visualize the border like a slice of Swiss cheese with an endless army of moles burrowing new holes just as fast as the passageways are found.

Most of the time the tunnels are found north of the border and that means a lot of waiting around and shooting the breeze with law enforcement types south of the border until the tunnel entrance is located in Mexico. A typical tunnel isn't very user friendly: Think cramped, dusty and crudely made. This week's tunnel in Tecate turned out to be more sophisticated than I anticipated

17 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:34:39pm

Bless me Father, for I have sinned. I have been with a loose girl".
The priest asks, "Is that you, little Joey Parisi?"
"Yes, Father, it is."
"And who was the girl you were with?"
"I can't tell you, Father, I don't want to ruin her reputation."
"Well, Joey, I'm sure to find out her name sooner or later, so you may as well tell me now. Was it Tina Minetti?"
"I cannot say."

"Was it Teresa Volpe?"
"I'll never tell."

"Was it Nina Capelli?"
"I'm sorry, but I cannot name her."

"Was it Cathy Piriano?"
"My lips are sealed."

"Was it Rosa Di Angelo, then?"
"Please, Father, I cannot tell you."

The priest sighs in frustration. "You're very tight lipped, Joey Parisi, and
I admire that. But you've sinned and have to atone. You cannot be an altar
boy now for 4 months. Now you go and behave yourself."

Joey walks back to his pew, and his friend Franco slides over and whispers,
"What'd you get?"

"4 months holiday and five good leads."

18 traderjoe9  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:36:26pm

We discovered today that my cat goes nuts whenever he is around green olives. Does anyone know anything about that?

19 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:37:40pm

re: #13 Rob with a mind

Civil War with what weapons, and where do I move?

the ones that many people already had, plus all the ones the bitter clingy people bought after the stolen election. Juggy hates the 2nd Amendment because he knows why it's there: to stop people like him from becoming king.

Texas comes to mind, or pretty much anywhere outside a big city.

20 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:38:11pm

We are all familiar with the Infinite Monkey Theorem - that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

Is there an Infinite Lizard Theorem?

21 BakaRanger  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:38:33pm

re: #18 traderjoe9

We discovered today that my cat goes nuts whenever he is around green olives. Does anyone know anything about that?

Is this after he drinks the martini?

22 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:38:57pm

re: #18 traderjoe9

We discovered today that my cat goes nuts whenever he is around green olives. Does anyone know anything about that?

your cat is weird?

/white smoke

23 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:40:02pm

re: #18 traderjoe9

We discovered today that my cat goes nuts whenever he is around green olives. Does anyone know anything about that?

Maybe you should stop throwing green olives at the cat.

/

24 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:40:25pm

re: #17 Erik The Red

oldie... parish priest was adamant that i become an altar boy when i hit the parochial school in 7th grade.

i repeatedly declined, and never went there.

turns out years later that he was molesting some of them at the time...

25 freedomplow  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:40:50pm

He says 50 million free. It's really 60 million.

Video: Bush Legacy

26 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:41:04pm

re: #23 karmic_inquisitor

Maybe you should stop throwing green olives at the cat.

/

i'm wondering if it's before or after they've been in the martini?

27 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:41:55pm

re: #26 redc1c4 It's because he took the olive's from the Kitteh's Martini.

28 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:43:04pm

re: #26 redc1c4

re: #27 Rustler

There is a good lolcat in there.

29 Unakite  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:43:40pm

re: #20 karmic_inquisitor

We are all familiar with the Infinite Monkey Theorem - that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

Is there an Infinite Lizard Theorem?

With infinite time, they'll eat all the monkeys?

30 suboptimal  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:43:44pm

re: #28 karmic_inquisitor

re: #27 Rustler

There is a good lolcat in there.

How the hell did the lolcat get IN the olive?

31 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:44:19pm

A little Country Humor and some New Boots - enjoy!

An elderly couple, Margaret and Bert, moved to Texas.

Bert always wanted a pair of authentic cowboy boots, so, seeing some on
sale, he bought them and wore them home.

Walking proudly, he sauntered into the kitchen and said to his wife, 'Notice
anything different about me?'

Margaret looked him over. 'Nope.'

Frustrated, Bert stormed off into the bathroom, undressed and walked back
into the kitchen completely naked except for the boots.

Again he asked Margaret, a little louder this time, 'Notice anything
different NOW?'

Margaret looked up and exclaimed, 'Bert, what's different? It's hanging down
today, it was hanging down yesterday, it'll be hanging down again tomorrow!'


Furious, Bert yelled, 'AND DO YOU KNOW WHY IT'S HANGING DOWN, MARGARET?'

'Nope', she replied.

'IT'S HANGING DOWN, BECAUSE IT'S LOOKING AT MY NEW BOOTS!'

Without changing her expression, Margaret replied, 'Shoulda bought a hat,
Bert. Shoulda bought a hat.'

32 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:45:06pm

Well I am out - cya.

33 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:45:20pm

re: #30 suboptimal

How the hell did the lolcat get IN the olive?

it was a big freakin olive and a itty bitty kiteh committee member?

34 Unakite  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:46:24pm

re: #24 redc1c4

oldie... parish priest was adamant that i become an altar boy when i hit the parochial school in 7th grade.

i repeatedly declined, and never went there.

turns out years later that he was molesting some of them at the time...

Must say that when I was growing up, we must have been one of the lucky parishes. None of the priests (that I know of) molested any of the altar boys. We did have some suspicions about the organist.

35 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:46:45pm

re: #20 karmic_inquisitor

We are all familiar with the Infinite Monkey Theorem - that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

Is there an Infinite Lizard Theorem?

likely has something to do with puns or boob threads...

/white smoke

36 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:47:35pm

An American touring Spain stopped at a local restaurant following
a day of sightseeing. While sipping his sangria, he noticed a
sizzling, scrumptious looking platter being served at the next
table. Not only did it look good, the smell was wonderful. He
asked the waiter, "What is that you just served?"

The waiter replied, " Ah senor, you have excellent taste! Those
are bulls testicles from the bull fight this morning. A delicacy!"
The American, though momentarily daunted, said, "What the hell,
I'm on vacation! Bring me an order!"

The waiter replied, "I am so sorry senor. There is only one
serving per day because there is only one bull fight each
morning. If you come early tomorrow and place your order, we will
be sure to save you this delicacy!"

The next morning, the American returned, placed his order, and
then that evening he was served the one and only special delicacy
of the day. After a few bites, and inspecting the contents of
his platter, he called to the waiter and said, "These are
delicious, but they are much, much smaller than the ones I saw
you serve yesterday!"

The waiter shrugged his shoulders and replied, "Si senor.
Sometimes the bull wins."

37 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:47:44pm

re: #30 suboptimal

How the hell did the lolcat get IN the olive?

Name the cat "Pimento"

38 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:48:44pm

re: #9 BatGuano

My democrat aunt said she hoped the Obama administration would be similar the Clinton administration without the sex scandals. At this point that's a deal I'll take.

39 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:52:39pm

re: #38 MrPaulRevere I'd like a sex scandel just to see WTF the WAB does to the 0.

40 Erik The Red  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:55:11pm

A woman pregnant with triplets was walking down the street when a masked
robber ran out of a bank and shot her three times in the stomach. Luckily
the babies were OK. The surgeon decided to leave the bullets in because it
was too risky to operate. She gave birth to two healthy daughters and a
healthy son.

All was fine for 16 years, and then one daughter walked into the room in
tears.

"What's wrong?" asked the mother. "I was taking a tinkle and this bullet
came out," replied the daughter.

The mother told her it was okay and explained what happened 16 years ago

About a week later the second daughter walked into the room in tears. "Mom,
I was taking a tinkle and this bullet ! came out."

Again the mother told her not to worry and explained what happened 16 years
ago.

A week later her son walked into the room in tears. "It's okay" said the
Mom, "I know what happened You were taking a tinkle and a bullet came out."

"No," said the boy, "I was playing with myself and I shot the dog."

41 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:55:46pm

re: #38 MrPaulRevere

I agree with you and your aunt. Unfortunately we have a Democrat congress, Democrat president..This is going to be a bumpy night.

42 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:57:43pm

re: #39 Rustler

What's a WAB?

43 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:58:30pm

re: #39 Rustler

I'd like a sex scandel just to see WTF the WAB does to the 0.

not even the Secret Service could save him...

besides, i doubt that he has a high enough testosterone level to even get it up, let alone impregnate anyone. do we know for sure those kids are his?

come to think of it, i can't see WAB taking time out from herself long enough to even *get* pregnant, let alone twice. maybe they're adopted 'life style' accessories?

44 BatGuano  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:58:54pm

re: #42 BatGuano

I know what a 0 is.

45 Rustler  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:59:06pm

re: #42 BatGuano
Michelle Obama the (W)hiney (A)ss (B)itch.

46 redc1c4  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:59:31pm

re: #42 BatGuano

What's a WAB?

whiny ass bitch... aka "the first ho"

47 Mauser  Fri, Jan 23, 2009 11:59:52pm

The Two Faces of Reid:

When Rod Blagojevich nominated Roland Burris to the Senate, Reid was loath to accept him. He even tried to block him on a minor technicality on his paperwork.

When it comes to Al Franken though, Reid is so eager to seat the man that he's willing to do it even before the election mess is settled. (Seriously, what happens should Coleman win his suit?)

One wonders if this is yet another example of Reid's racism.

What's interesting to me is that nobody has juxtaposed these two stories before me, that I've seen anyway.

48 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:00:16am

It was the first day of a school in USA and a new Indian student
named Chandrasekhar Subramanian entered the fourth grade.

The teacher said, 'Let's begin by reviewing some American History. Who said
'Give me Liberty , or give me Death'?

She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Chandrasekhar, who had his hand up:
'Patrick Henry, 1775' he said.
'Very good!'

Who said 'Government of the People, by the People, for the People, shall not
perish from the Earth?'

Again, no response except from Chandrasekhar. 'Abraham Lincoln, 1863' said
Chandrasekhar.

The teacher snapped at the class, 'Class, you should be ashamed.
Chandrasekhar, who is new to our country, knows more about its history than
you do.'

She heard a loud whisper: 'Fuck the Indians,'

'Who said that?' she demanded. Chandrasekhar put his hand up. 'General
Custer, 1862.'

At that point, a student in the back said, 'I'm gonna puke.'

The teacher glares around and asks 'All right! Now, who said that?' Again,
Chandrasekhar says, 'George Bush to the Japanese Prime Minister,1991.'

Now furious, another student yells, 'Oh yeah? Suck this!'

Chandrasekhar jumps out of his chair waving his hand and shouts to the
teacher, 'Bill Clinton, to Monica Lewinsky, 1997!'

Now with almost mob hysteria someone said 'You little shit. If you say
anything else, I'll kill you.'

Chandrasekhar frantically yells at the top of his voice, ' Michael Jackson
to the child witnesses testifying against him- 2004.'

The teacher fainted. And as the class gathered around the teacher on the
floor, someone said, 'Oh shit, we're fucked!'

And Chandrasekhar said quietly, I think it was George Bush, Iraq , 2007 the American voters on 20 Jan. 2009.'

49 Mauser  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:02:36am

Chandrasekhar Subramanian, by the way is the name of a famous Indian Astrophysicist (reversed). [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

50 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:02:44am

re: #45 Rustler

Thank you. I'm still laughing.

51 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:04:19am

re: #49 Mauser

Chandrasekhar Subramanian, by the way is the name of a famous Indian Astrophysicist (reversed). [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Not shit? Even with my lame ass jokes I can still learn something.

52 LGoPs  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:05:40am

I never did get Shakespeare...

53 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:09:14am

re: #50 BatGuano NP

54 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:11:26am

re: #45 Rustler

Michelle Obama the (W)hiney (A)ss (B)itch.

/and Ass Force One

55 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:13:25am

re: #54 Killian Bundy Speaking of which I wonder when the Obama edition Air Force Ones will launch and if they will be significantly more expensive than the standard version.

56 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:13:49am

re: #54 Killian Bundy

/and Ass Force One

did you see the "fashion review" on the rottweiler website?

57 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:14:49am

re: #55 Rustler

Speaking of which I wonder when the Obama edition Air Force Ones will launch and if they will be significantly more expensive than the standard version.

he gets the same one Bush used... the AF only buys new ones every so often.

58 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:14:49am

re: #55 Rustler
Damn already being advertised.

59 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:15:32am

re: #57 redc1c4
Refering to the Shoes not the Plane.

60 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:17:26am

re: #56 redc1c4

did you see the "fashion review" on the rottweiler website?

/um no, but she should wear a wide load sign

61 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:18:29am

re: #60 Killian Bundy Pssh thats her You can't throw me under the bus protection.

62 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:19:47am

re: #60 Killian Bundy

/um no, but she should wear a wide load sign

then you'll appreciate this post

63 traderjoe9  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:20:16am

re: #22 redc1c4

Ahuh! I'm not the only one!

64 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:23:20am
65 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:24:29am

re: #64 redc1c4

my bad... this post

/First Sasquatch!

66 Render  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:27:07am

re: #19 redc1c4

East Coast'll be an epic raging mess.

Goin Mobile

WHO,
R

67 Macaroon  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:27:54am

re: #9 BatGuano

I am a Reagan republican who is starting to look at the Clinton presidency with nostalgia. Lord, help me.

I was thinking the very same thing.

68 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:28:59am

re: #62 redc1c4

We were a bit surprised that the Beanstalk-in-Chief agreed to her baring her shoulders like that, though. Not out of modesty, we’re not even sure that the Husseins are aware of the meaning of the word, but because it has to be a bit embarrassing that her shoulders are broader than his even when he’s the only one wearing padding

Sad but true.

69 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:29:29am

re: #10 Rustler

What happened on day 4 in the Hope Administration I did't feel up to seeing what he did to ruin the country earlier today.

/Obama reverses Bush abortion-funds policy

70 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:30:28am

re: #69 Killian Bundy So he had a 24 hour delay on it? Was supposed to undo that on his 2nd full day in office while also opening up Stem cell research.

71 freetoken  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:31:25am

re: #8 Tamron

Crichton made several claims (6 years ago when he wrote this.)

Why should I believe him?

72 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:32:07am

re: #70 Rustler
NM this one opens up US funding of overseas abortions. Cause you know we have so much money we should spend it on helping other countries abort babies.

73 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:32:51am

re: #9 BatGuano

I am a Reagan republican who is starting to look at the Clinton presidency with nostalgia. Lord, help me.

When you start getting all misty for Carter then we know we are screwed.

74 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:33:55am

re: #69 Killian Bundy

/Obama reverses Bush abortion-funds policy

So far it seems O is reversing every one of W's policy no matter what it is, or what the consequences of the reversal will mean.

75 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:34:02am

re: #69 Killian Bundy

/Obama reverses Bush abortion-funds policy

well, to the truly cynical, it's an interesting anti-immigration policy...

what amazes me is that if we fight a war and kill "people of color" in some 3rd world shithole, we're racist, no matter the cause of the war, but funding the killing of their unborn children is perfectly acceptable.

/boggle

76 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:34:24am

re: #71 freetoken The correlations are right there to see agree with it or not its your choice. It isn't a statement of fact just Crichten's opinion and one with which I and likely other lizards agree with.

77 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:35:18am

re: #73 FurryOldGuyJeans
What about watching Obama's first 2 days in Office and saying you know Bunnybait wasn't so bad?

78 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:35:47am

Now 44 wants to tell us who we can't listen to on the Radio. Fucking asshat.
Obama: Quit Listening to Rush

President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

79 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:36:17am

re: #75 redc1c4

well, to the truly cynical, it's an interesting anti-immigration policy...

what amazes me is that if we fight a war and kill "people of color" in some 3rd world shithole, we're racist, no matter the cause of the war, but funding the killing of their unborn children is perfectly acceptable.

/boggle

Same policy applies here as well. Can't kill convicted murderers, but if it is a fetus then dig it out.

80 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:36:34am

re: #65 Killian Bundy

/First Sasquatch!

my 6 element ROTFLHFAO on that one too...

81 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:36:43am

re: #78 Erik The Red
F U Obama. I have the constitutional right to listen to whomever I want.

82 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:37:39am

re: #77 Rustler

What about watching Obama's first 2 days in Office and saying you know Bunnybait wasn't so bad?

I lived through Carter, he was bad. If O starts making Jimmah look good in comparison, then we are truly screwed.

83 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:38:21am

re: #81 Rustler
Oh yeah I have no wish nor want to get along with any administration or President who infringes on my constitutional rights and believes that the country I served is a bad country he can't be proud of. Yes WAB said it but she does his thinking for him.

84 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:39:09am

re: #82 FurryOldGuyJeans
Yeah it's just after the first 2 days I saw Obama on a record setting pace to out jimmah jimmah.

85 SFGoth  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:39:33am

Man, I just gotta brag.

The S.F. Comical did it's society page special on the opening of the ballet and they had pix of the gowns and dames like they always do. In the comments section I wrote:

"Gothic
1/22/2009 1:24:33 PM

Most of the women in the photos would look a lot better (and more desirable) in a corset and some type of bustle gown. Ladies, if you're going to show off your cleavage without serious support (i.e., steel boning), make sure: 1) you have some; 2) it's not flopping around loose; and 3) you're under 40. Over 40, you definitely need a corset. No woman looks bad in one."

So far 19 ups and 0 downs. Sweet. It's so true.

86 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:40:10am

re: #78 Erik The Red

Now 44 wants to tell us who we can't listen to on the Radio. Fucking asshat.
Obama: Quit Listening to Rush

President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

Fairness Doctrine here we come. Soviet style censorship coming to you soon.

87 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:41:57am

re: #78 Erik The Red

Now 44 wants to tell us who we can't listen to on the Radio. Fucking asshat.
Obama: Quit Listening to Rush

President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

if the so called Republican congresscritters had listened to Rush, and others before, we might not be in the slow motion disaster that we're living through now... Buckwheat the Dimwitted can go fuck himself.

88 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:42:29am

A little boy wanted to know what it was like to have R1,000. His mother told
him to pray to God for it. He prayed for two weeks but nothing turned up.
Then he decided perhaps he should write God a letter requesting the R1,000.
When the post office received the letter addressed to God, they opened it
and decided to send it to President. The President was so impressed, touched
and amused that he instructed his secretary to send the little boy R20. He
thought this would appear to be a lot of money to a little boy.

The little boy was delighted with the R20 and sat down to write a thank-you
letter, which read as follows; "Dear God: Thank you very much for sending me
the money. I noticed that you had to send it through the government. As
usual, those thieves deducted R980 for tax

89 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:42:31am

re: #85 SFGoth

I must be strange then because natural, saggy or not, is what gets my pilot light lit.

90 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:42:51am

re: #71 freetoken
If your own experience and study does not conform with what he said or wrote there is no reason to.

91 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:43:00am

I can't wait to hear what Rush has to say about this on monday.

92 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:43:03am

re: #82 FurryOldGuyJeans

I lived through Carter, he was bad. If O starts making Jimmah look good in comparison, then we are truly screwed.

roger that! i still have my Jimmy Carter money clip somewhere.

it's a pop tab (remember them?) wrapped around a penny.

/we're headed that way

93 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:45:01am

re: #91 Rustler

I can't wait to hear what Rush has to say about this on monday.

i've never listened to him, but it might be worthwhile to do so, just this once... Juggy's not quite as bright as he thinks he is.

94 freetoken  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:45:32am

re: #75 redc1c4

well, to the truly cynical, it's an interesting anti-immigration policy...

That really is cynical! Yet it raises an interesting point... We will now send money to the "dark" continent to support abortions, yet not to say Ireland, which has a (for a European nation) rather restrictive abortion culture.

95 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:45:46am

The big 0 really believes America elected him as Emporer I think.

"I won," he said, according to aides who were briefed on the meeting. "I will trump you on that."

From the don't listen to Rush article.

96 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:46:35am

Well, look who showed up yesterday

/not looking good

97 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:47:14am

re: #92 redc1c4

roger that! i still have my Jimmy Carter money clip somewhere.

it's a pop tab (remember them?) wrapped around a penny.

/we're headed that way

Dude, I remember when pull tabs were some new fangled techno-geek thing. The only way for a lot of people to open a beverage can was with the can/bottle opener. The pop tabs for me are something new and improved. ;)

And twist-off bottle tops? PFFFT! What are those?

98 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:47:53am

re: #93 redc1c4

i've never listened to him, but it might be worthwhile to do so, just this once... Juggy's not quite as bright as he thinks he is.

red I can't believe you have never listened to Rush. Any reason?

99 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:48:48am

re: #96 Killian Bundy

Well, look who showed up yesterday

/not looking good

Looking better than what I was expecting. I was expecting a wax effigy.

100 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:49:03am

re: #73 FurryOldGuyJeans

Abso friggin lutely!

101 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:50:37am

re: #81 Rustler

F U Obama. I have the constitutional right to listen to whomever I want.

Only until he changes it, or discards it.

102 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:50:42am

re: #94 freetoken

That really is cynical! Yet it raises an interesting point... We will now send money to the "dark" continent to support abortions, yet not to say Ireland, which has a (for a European nation) rather restrictive abortion culture.

sorry, it's my default setting... but i'm not cynical, i'm experienced. %-)

to a neutral observer, the policy, on it's face, seems racist, and yet, no one complains.

hypocrisy, thy name is "liberal".

103 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:52:11am

re: #102 redc1c4

sorry, it's my default setting... but i'm not cynical, i'm experienced. %-)

to a neutral observer, the policy, on it's face, seems racist, and yet, no one complains.

hypocrisy, thy name is "liberal".

Leftoids are so steeped in racism that they can not see what is plain to others. Just like chronic anti-Semitism.

104 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:53:48am

re: #98 Erik The Red

red I can't believe you have never listened to Rush. Any reason?

i don't do talk radio... i w*rk with morons, when i'm w*rking, and after a day of inanities and ignorance, i have no desire to listen to more fools on the air. shut up and play music is my motto.

besides, i figure anything that has been dumbed down enough to be popular with the masses will likely be an insult to my intelligence. i prefer to come here instead.

105 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:54:12am

re: #78 Erik The Red

Now 44 wants to tell us who we can't listen to on the Radio. Fucking asshat.
Obama: Quit Listening to Rush

President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

Yeah, we'll stop listening to Rush when 0bama stops listening to Soros.

106 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:54:45am

re: #97 FurryOldGuyJeans

Dude, I remember when pull tabs were some new fangled techno-geek thing. The only way for a lot of people to open a beverage can was with the can/bottle opener. The pop tabs for me are something new and improved. ;)

And twist-off bottle tops? PFFFT! What are those?

you misspelled "church key" %-)

107 freetoken  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:55:09am

re: #102 redc1c4


to a neutral observer, the policy, on it's face, seems racist, and yet, no one complains.

Since it is likely quite a few more brown babies will be aborted than white ones... it does seem racist.

108 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:55:50am

re: #104 redc1c4

i don't do talk radio... i w*rk with morons, when i'm w*rking, and after a day of inanities and ignorance, i have no desire to listen to more fools on the air. shut up and play music is my motto.

besides, i figure anything that has been dumbed down enough to be popular with the masses will likely be an insult to my intelligence. i prefer to come here instead.

Rush is not dumbed down anything. But Rush does have an ego that could make O look like a humble man.

109 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:56:39am

You know we need to start throwing Turkey point at all the enviro nuts who hate nuke power. The American Crocodile was dying out but in recent years populations in hte Vicinity of the Turkey Point Nuclear Facility in Florida have risen drastically due to the waters being cleaner there and the protected habitat with wonderful birthing beaches.

110 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:56:47am

I forget whats Charles policy with linking to World Net Daily? Very disturbing article there I want to post about.

111 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:57:16am

re: #107 freetoken

Since it is likely quite a few more brown babies will be aborted than white ones... it does seem racist.

i'm positive that if a Republican proposed a program that targeted the same population, it'd be labeled as such. if the RINO's in DC had a clue they'd do so, but then again, if they had a clue, they wouldn't be RINOs...

sigh... now i need another drink.

112 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:57:21am

re: #106 redc1c4

you misspelled "church key" %-)

Never had one of those things...we only had a can/bottle opener. ;)

113 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:57:56am

re: #108 FurryOldGuyJeans
Rush the one man with a bigger sense of self importance than Obama. but I still get a kick out of listening to him on occasion. Rancher is the real Rushophile tho.

114 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:58:17am

re: #110 Erik The Red

I forget whats Charles policy with linking to World Net Daily? Very disturbing article there I want to post about.

Best not to. Their journalistic integrity is on scale with the FMSM.

115 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:58:41am

re: #111 redc1c4
Doing your part to avoid an Alcohol Idustry bailout red?

116 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:59:32am

re: #100 BatGuano

By the by, in 1976 I wrote in Gene McCarthy .Couldn't bring myself to vote for Carter or Ford.

117 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 12:59:56am

re: #114 FurryOldGuyJeans

Best not to. Their journalistic integrity is on scale with the FMSM.

Thanks I just copy and paste it not to long.

118 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:00:05am

re: #71 freetoken

Crichton made several claims (6 years ago when he wrote this.)

Why should I believe him?


Thank you! (Perfect illustration of the point Crichton was making.)

119 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:00:11am

re: #115 Rustler

Doing your part to avoid an Alcohol Idustry bailout red?

can't afford to get too much hemoglobin in my ethanol system... the body starts acting funny.

120 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:00:42am

re: #116 BatGuano

By the by, in 1976 I wrote in Gene McCarthy .Couldn't bring myself to vote for Carter or Ford.

1976 sounds a lot like 2008, doesn't it.

121 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:02:09am

re: #119 redc1c4 Yeah that whole Hemoglobin/Ethanol ratio is hell to maintain. You should talk to your dr. about getting a perscription for Ethanol Suppliments now that the Big 0 is nationalizing health care.

122 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:02:28am

re: #120 FurryOldGuyJeans

It sure do. High five for that.

123 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:02:43am

re: #119 redc1c4

can't afford to get too much hemoglobin in my ethanol system... the body starts acting funny.

You need to go for Bela Lugosi's favorite drink then, formaldehyde.

124 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:03:31am

This should make you all warm and fuzzy/

U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., is hoping to pass a firearm-licensing bill that will significantly rewrite gun-ownership laws in America.

Among the more controversial provisions of the bill are requirements that all handgun owners submit to the federal government a photo, thumb print and mental heath records. Further, the bill would order the attorney general to establish a database of every handgun sale, transfer and owner's address in America.

The bill claims its purpose is "to protect the public against the unreasonable risk of injury and death associated with the unrecorded sale or transfer of firearms to criminals and youth."

Rush's proposed bill, H.R. 45, is alternatively known as "Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009," named after an Illinois teenager killed by a gunshot.

According the bill's text, "On the afternoon of May 10, 2007, Blair Holt, a junior at Julian High School in Chicago, was killed on a public bus riding home from school when he used his body to shield a girl who was in the line of fire after a young man boarded the bus and started shooting."

The bill then argues that interstate firearm trafficking and children dying from gun violence create legitimate cause for the federal government to monitor gun ownership and transfers in new ways.

If passed, the bill would make it illegal to own or possess a "qualifying firearm" – defined as any handgun or any semiautomatic firearm that takes an ammunition clip – without a "Blair Holt" license.

To obtain a "Blair Holt" license, an application must be made that includes a photo, address, all previous aliases, thumb print, completion of a written firearm safety test, release of mental health records to the attorney general and a fee not to exceed $25.

Further, the bill makes it illegal to transfer ownership of a qualifying firearm to anyone who is not a licensed gun dealer or collector. Exceptions to this rule include transfer to family members by gift or bequest and loans, not to exceed 30 days, of a firearm for lawful purposes "between persons who are personally known to each other."

The bill also requires qualifying firearm owners to report all transfers to the attorney general's database. It would also be illegal for a licensed gun owner to fail to record a gun loss or theft within 72 hours or fail to report a change of address within 60 days.

And if a minor obtains a weapon and injures someone with it, the owner of the gun – if deemed to have failed to meet certain safety requirements – faces a multiple-year jail sentence.

H.R. 45 is a resurfacing of 2007's H.R. 2666, which contained much of the same language and was co-sponsored by 15 other representatives and Barack Obama's current chief of staff, Rahm Emmanuel. H.R. 2666 was assigned to the House Judiciary committee, where no action was taken.

H.R. 45 currently has no co-sponsors and is likewise assigned to the House Judiciary committee.

125 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:05:36am

Also see Here

126 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:06:14am

re: #124 Erik The Red Well at least Obama hasn't raised taxes on ammo by 500% yet.

127 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:07:10am

re: #126 Rustler

Well at least Obama hasn't raised taxes on ammo by 500% yet.

Wait its coming Buy Baby Buy Now.

128 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:10:24am

re: #127 Erik The Red
It's why I said yet. I wonder if Obama will end up Banning Ranger SXT ammo. Or if like those in office at the time of the Black Talon ban won't understand its the exact same round just lacking the Lublox coating which gave the talons their color and name.

129 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:12:48am

re: #7 Rob with a mind

Interesting Statistics

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law,
St. Paul, Minnesota, points out facts of 2008 Presidential election:
Number of States won by:
Democrats: 19
Republicans: 29
Square miles of land won by:
Democrats: 580,000
Republicans: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by:
Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Democrats: 13.2
Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds:
"In aggregate, the map of the territory won by Republicans
was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.
Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare.
Professor Olson believes the United States is now somewhere
between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's
definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation'
population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to
the USA in fewer than five years

Law Professor Points Out Some Interesting Facts Concerning the Presidential Election-Fiction!

Summary of the eRumor:
A forwarded email about a Hemline University School of Law Professor named Joseph Olson who pointed out some interesting facts concerning the Presidential election and the murder rate in red and blue states.

The Truth:
Joseph Olson is a real Professor at Hemline University School of Law in St. Paul Minnesota but he did not write this, according to his faculty bio page on the university site. Olson called it "bogus" in his disclaimer and said that the eRumor dates back to 2000 and originally was a commentary about the Bush/Gore election which quoted philosopher Alexander Tyler.

131 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:13:11am

re: #122 BatGuano

It sure do. High five for that.

except McCarthy was a better man than McLame.

132 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:14:02am

re: #123 FurryOldGuyJeans

You need to go for Bela Lugosi's favorite drink then, formaldehyde.

i'm more likely to go with absinthe... %-)

133 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:15:08am

re: #129 gmsc

Ain't it amazing how political bullshit keeps getting recycled? ;)

134 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:15:35am

re: #132 redc1c4

i'm more likely to go with absinthe... %-)

Formaldehyde would be cheaper, and legal. ;)

135 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:15:49am

re: #133 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ain't it amazing how political bullshit keeps getting recycled? ;)

I used to be amazed at it, but now I've seen enough to realize that it's par for the course . . .

136 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:16:42am

re: #131 redc1c4

except McCarthy was a better man than McLame.

Even Ford was marginally better.

Man, I can't believe I said that, but it's true.

137 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:17:34am

Later Lizards. See you after Fruitcup. Same some for me.

138 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:18:07am

re: #128 Rustler
Allthough I think it was the Rumor that the Lublox was teflon and allowed for penetration thru vest and on to secondary targets which was blatently false. Talons had larger expantion and lower penetration than any rounds on the market which gave them much higher stopping power than other rounds of the same caliber and weight.

139 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:20:58am

re: #130 FurryOldGuyJeans
The assault weapons ban is BS. It rates the weapons by appearance rather than by lethality or the ability to expend large amounts of ammo in short time frames. Yes It blocks the Mac-10's etc but it also makes illegal a number of weapons that aren't true assault weapons because of appearance.

140 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:22:51am

re: #134 FurryOldGuyJeans

Formaldehyde would be cheaper, and legal. ;)

legal, schemgle... since i'm gonna be a gun criminal any day now, what's a little booze violation?

besides, it's legal again.

141 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:22:54am

re: #107 freetoken

Since it is likely quite a few more brown babies will be aborted than white ones... it does seem racist.


--Are you saying that it's not racist whenever the record shows that a greater income tax load is carried by whites?

Please knock off the victim-racist approach. It gets nowhere.
.

142 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:22:54am

re: #139 Rustler

You know it is BS, I know it is, but you think the average FMSM imbiber does? Ignorance of the electorate is a powerful tool O is using.

143 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:23:51am

re: #139 Rustler

The assault weapons ban is BS. It rates the weapons by appearance rather than by lethality or the ability to expend large amounts of ammo in short time frames. Yes It blocks the Mac-10's etc but it also makes illegal a number of weapons that aren't true assault weapons because of appearance.

yeah, but it made them *feel* better, and that's all that matters.

144 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:23:51am

Last night, I posted the 2.0 version of the "This is John Galt Speaking . . ." videos, based on the famous speech from Atlas Shrugged.

Here's the original 1.0 16-video version of this series, which you also may enjoy.

Below is the first video from the 1.0 playlist:

145 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:25:24am

re: #140 redc1c4

legal, schemgle... since i'm gonna be a gun criminal any day now, what's a little booze violation?

besides, it's legal again.

I stand corrected. :)

At least formaldehyde is cheaper and easier to obtain. ;)

146 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:25:25am

re: #141 Tamron

--Are you saying that it's not racist whenever the record shows that a greater income tax load is carried by whites?

Please knock off the victim-racist approach. It gets nowhere.
.

please read the whole discussion before you comment on part of it...

147 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:26:22am

re: #145 FurryOldGuyJeans

I stand corrected. :)

At least formaldehyde is cheaper and easier to obtain. ;)

the day i'll be needing formaldehyde, i won't be worried about the cost. %-)

148 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:27:12am

re: #143 redc1c4

yeah, but it made them *feel* better, and that's all that matters.

The only way to enact an outright and total ban is to do it step by step outlawing one type at a time.

149 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:29:45am

re: #145 FurryOldGuyJeans

I stand corrected. :)

You wear orthopedic shoes?
;)

150 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:30:57am

re: #149 gmsc

You wear orthopedic shoes?
;)

No, but I do wear compression socks. It won't be long before I need the shoes though.

151 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:31:48am

re: #148 FurryOldGuyJeans

The only way to enact an outright and total ban is to do it step by step outlawing one type at a time.

gonna be a lot harder now, at least until they can either overturn or castrate Heller. not sure you can make licensing requirements on a right either.

152 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:37:38am

re: #146 redc1c4

please read the whole discussion before you comment on part of it...


Yeah, thanks, Red. I just read that one comment, took another look at the HOPENCHANGE avatar, and went off. Usually a little more cool than that.

Heh.
.

153 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:38:50am

re: #152 Tamron

Yeah, thanks, Red. I just read that one comment, took another look at the HOPENCHANGE avatar, and went off. Usually a little more cool than that.

Heh.
.

de nada... have a drink.

/pushes over a Gosling's Gold and water

154 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:40:09am

kinda quiet for a fryday night... WTF is everyone?

/checks the window to see if Surfer Doc got stuck %-)

155 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:40:59am

re: #154 redc1c4 Everyone is out trying to drink enough to stomach the hope and change of the the week.

156 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:41:18am

re: #151 redc1c4

gonna be a lot harder now, at least until they can either overturn or castrate Heller. not sure you can make licensing requirements on a right either.

They will keep trying until something sticks, especially if O gets to appoint enough SCOTUS justices.

As shaky as McCain would have been about SCOTUS appointments, at least he would have been more likely to nominate strict constructionist justices. O will without a shadow of a doubt pack on as many progressive liberals as is possible.

157 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:42:58am

re: #155 Rustler

Everyone is out trying to drink enough to stomach the hope and change of the the week.

i'm contemplating having a central line placed and putting myself on an ethanol drip... kinda a booze PCA, as it were.

/they really *do* have IV ethanol... bonus points if you know what it's a treatment for. %-)

158 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:43:24am

re: #151 redc1c4

gonna be a lot harder now, at least until they can either overturn or castrate Heller. not sure you can make licensing requirements on a right either.


Hey Red, take a look at this clever new way someone has devised, of bypassing gun licensing and still getting gun control. Maybe you saw this on a previous thread a week or so ago:

AMMUNITION ACCOUNTABILITY ACT -- A NEW KIND OF GUN CONTROL

"Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Instead, what if AMMUNITION is the real target?

Clever anti-gun fanatics are now pushing for legislation to register and control all small-arms ammo in the country, a major step in the direction of the registration and confiscation of our private weapons themselves. Their catchy motto is "Saving Lives, One Bullet at a Time."

The "Ammunition Accountability Act" is currently being pushed in 19 states -- Alabama, Arizona, Indiana, California , Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

At first glance, these quotes from their website sound logical and sensible:

--"Each year there are many homicides from senseless gun violence in America and perhaps more astounding is the fact that 30% of those crimes go unsolved. Many of these cases could be solved if ammunition coding technology were implemented."

--"Ammunition Accountability is a newly forming group of ammunition coding technology supporters. Our group includes gun crime victims, industry representatives, law enforcement, public officials, public policy experts, and more. We are working together to pass legislation to make ammunition coding technology a reality. Ammunition coding technology works by laser etching the back of each bullet with an alpha-numeric serial number. Then when a potential criminal purchases a box of 9mm cartridges, the box of ammunition and the bullets’ coding numbers would be connected to the purchaser in a statewide database. When a bullet is found at a crime scene, the code on the bullet can be read with a simple magnifying glass and then be run through a statewide database to determine who purchased that ammunition and where, providing a valuable investigative lead."

According to the proposed law, nobody will be able to sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless that ammunition is coded. Furthermore, any privately held uncoded ammunition -- including hand-loaded ammo -- must be destroyed by 2011. They also plan to charge a five-cent tax on each new round, so every new box of ammo you buy will go up by at least $2.50 or more.

The average citizen will thus be breaking the law, if he owns any non-coded ammunition. (The status of shotgun ammo is not known at this time.)

The government will thereafter know the caliber and quantity of your ammo purchases, and by extension, what caliber of firearms that you own. This would greatly lessen the need for gun registration to be a prerequisite for gun confiscation."


.

159 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:43:53am

re: #156 FurryOldGuyJeans

They will keep trying until something sticks, especially if O gets to appoint enough SCOTUS justices.

As shaky as McCain would have been about SCOTUS appointments, at least he would have been more likely to nominate strict constructionist justices. O will without a shadow of a doubt pack on as many progressive liberals as is possible.

think he'll try to expand the court? %-)

160 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:45:50am

re: #153 redc1c4

de nada... have a drink.

/pushes over a Gosling's Gold and water


Gosling's Gold -- is that related to a Duck Fart?
.

161 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:46:34am

re: #158 Tamron

.

you buy mine, and i buy yours...

besides, since ammo crosses state lines, i think you could overturn this on the grounds that the states have no authority to regulate it.

162 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:47:03am

re: #157 redc1c4

i'm contemplating having a central line placed and putting myself on an ethanol drip... kinda a booze PCA, as it were.

/they really *do* have IV ethanol... bonus points if you know what it's a treatment for. %-)

In dogs to treat anti-freeze overdose (ethylene glycol toxicity).

163 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:47:56am

re: #159 redc1c4

think he'll try to expand the court? %-)

He very well might try, especially if he keeps getting resistance from Republicans in Congress.

164 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:48:19am

re: #124 Erik The Red

Among the more controversial provisions of the bill are requirements that all handgun owners submit to the federal government a photo, thumb print and mental heath records. Further, the bill would order the attorney general to establish a database of every handgun sale, transfer and owner's address in America.

He is proposing I have to see a shrink and get certified sane before I can get a gun license? Interesting and novel approach.

165 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:49:27am

"Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay as soft as we are now. There won't be any America - because some foriegn soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race." LtGen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller USMC

"Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom." U/K

Quote 1 is becoming a greater risk since jan 20. And Obama and the MSM would like quote 2 stricken from the record and all references to the people referenced in it barred from public forums as a topic of conversation.

166 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:49:43am

re: #164 Outrider

He is proposing I have to see a shrink and get certified sane before I can get a gun license? Interesting and novel approach.

And one that is makes it knee-jerk easy to slip through and approved.

167 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:50:26am

re: #164 Outrider

He is proposing I have to see a shrink and get certified sane before I can get a gun license? Interesting and novel approach.

We could prevent 0bama from ever owning a gun by adding a provision that requires registering with a copy of your original birth certificate.

///

168 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:50:59am

re: #162 FurryOldGuyJeans

In dogs to treat anti-freeze overdose (ethylene glycol toxicity).


Is that true? I had the cutest little half-grown pup back in 1994, who died an ugly death after lapping up some antifreeze that had leaked out of a truck.

Dang.
.

169 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:51:06am

re: #160 Tamron

Gosling's Gold -- is that related to a Duck Fart?
.

"Bartender, give me rum! Rum for my friends..."

170 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:51:23am

re: #167 gmsc

*THUMP* No Nirthing allowed! ;)

171 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:52:33am

re: #162 FurryOldGuyJeans

In dogs to treat anti-freeze overdose (ethylene glycol toxicity).

and in humans for isopropyl or methanol poisoning too.

172 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:53:13am

re: #168 Tamron

Is that true? I had the cutest little half-grown pup back in 1994, who died an ugly death after lapping up some antifreeze that had leaked out of a truck.

Dang.
.

True.

173 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:53:44am

re: #164 Outrider

He is proposing I have to see a shrink and get certified sane before I can get a gun license? Interesting and novel approach.

dunno about that, but if you've ever seen one for any reason, you're screwed.

174 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:53:44am

re: #171 redc1c4

and in humans for isopropyl or methanol poisoning too.

I was getting there. ;)

175 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:54:41am

re: #169 redc1c4

"Bartender, give me rum! Rum for my friends..."

mmm ruuummm
/channeling Homer Simpson

176 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:55:26am

re: #166 FurryOldGuyJeans

And one that is makes it knee-jerk easy to slip through and approved.


look for most shrinks to say that anyone who wants a gun shouldn't have one.

Catch 22

177 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:55:31am

re: #167 gmsc

We could prevent 0bama from ever owning a gun by adding a provision that requires registering with a copy of your original birth certificate.

///

LOL. Someone should organize about 5,000 illegal aliens and march them to the White House to apply for a job. Hell, they'd have the same score on a background check as the Boss, so why not?
.

178 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:56:30am

re: #175 Outrider

mmm ruuummm
/channeling Homer Simpson

it's tasty stuff straight, with a little water... seems a shame to mix it with somethng like Coke or daquiri mix.

179 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:56:45am

re: #170 FurryOldGuyJeans

*THUMP* No Nirthing allowed! ;)

Not even jokingly?

180 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:56:47am

Putin Emerges From Gas Wars With Yushchenko Sidelined

Russia's gas agreement with Ukraine will warm up Eastern Europe after 12 freezing days without sufficient heat or power. It may also warm up relations between Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and Ukraine, where the deal elevates Putin's preferred political power broker and weakens his rival.

The accord let Putin portray himself as a strong leader at a time of economic turmoil and boosted Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Timoshenko over Putin's political foe, President Viktor Yushchenko.

Chechens Suspect Kremlin’s Hand in Killing on Vienna’s Streets

Chechen immigrants protested in Vienna against what they said was the Kremlin’s hand in the killing of a political refugee last week in the Austrian capital.

Around 100 people, some in masks and wearing gun targets on their backs, gathered today in front of Austria’s imperial palace as police surrounded them. The group unfurled banners calling for an investigation into the Jan. 13 shooting death of Umar Israilov, 27.

“It was a dark day for Europe,”


Anastasia Baburova's Funeral

Anastasia Baburova's funeral service was held today. She was the 25-year-old journalist killed as she tried to defend Stanislav Markelov, a human rights lawyer, when a masked gunman shot him at point-blank range in broad daylight on a busy Moscow street this week.

Saakashvili lambasts 'relentless enemy' Putin in TV phone-in

President Mikheil Saakashvili Friday described Vladimir Putin as a "relentless enemy" of Georgia during a television show that curiously resembled the Russian prime minister's own live phone-in sessions.

"Georgia has not had such a relentless enemy as Putin since Shah Abbas," Saakashvili said, in reference to a 17th century ruler of Persia notorious in Georgia for having repeatedly invaded the country.

President Hopey-n-Changey is lookin to get a boat-load of changey sans hopey.

Mornin folks.

181 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:56:53am

re: #176 redc1c4

look for most shrinks to say that anyone who wants a gun shouldn't have one.

Catch 22

I would bet if this does get passed that there will be government shrinks you have to see when someone wants to be licensed.

182 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:57:21am

re: #177 Tamron

LOL. Someone should organize about 5,000 illegal aliens and march them to the White House to apply for a job. Hell, they'd have the same score on a background check as the Boss, so why not?
.

they're likely to think more of America too...

183 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:57:37am

re: #173 redc1c4

dunno about that, but if you've ever seen one for any reason, you're screwed.

I was sent to one when I was in AIT, but he said I was totally sane and for me to quit screwing with my commander. ;-)>

184 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:59:36am

fruicup's over there somewhere...>

help yerself ya lazy bastiges.

185 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 1:59:45am

re: #178 redc1c4

it's tasty stuff straight, with a little water... seems a shame to mix it with somethng like Coke or daquiri mix.

Bacardi gold I'll mix with coke or once a year dump it in my egg nog. now the bourbons, ryes and whiskeys I'll drink straight up or with a little water.

186 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

187 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:00:49am

re: #183 Outrider I was once sent for an eval by a commander who thought I was suicidal because He saw pics of me cliff diving.

188 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:01:18am

re: #183 Outrider

I was sent to one when I was in AIT, but he said I was totally sane and for me to quit screwing with my commander. ;-)>

heh.

i went to see them @ Ft. Sam, regarding my civillian acquired PTSD. They told me i didn't have it, since the Army, at that time, didnt recognize it, and would i like some Xanax...

useless fuckers.

189 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:01:27am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Thank you, and hello!

190 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:01:47am

re: #173 redc1c4

dunno about that, but if you've ever seen one for any reason, you're screwed.

I saw one standing by an intersection holding a cardboard sign saying, "WILL DO PREFRONTAL LOBOTOMIES FOR FOOD".

--Does that mean I'm screwed?

(I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy..." Hic.)
.

191 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:02:07am

gmsc! :-)

192 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:02:09am

re: #131 redc1c4

He sure was. In the Republican primary I was rooting for Reagan. Not much choice in the general election.

193 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:02:38am

re: #187 Rustler

I was once sent for an eval by a commander who thought I was suicidal because He saw pics of me cliff diving.

who were you with?

194 claspur  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:02:54am

Is this a semi-old joke? Read it yesterday on Politico from a blogger...never have heard it.
I've had a riot telling it to Libtards, and watching their faces as they try to :get it." lol

What does Obama and Osama have in common?
They both have(had) friends that've bombed The Pentagon.(love the blank looks on the Libtards faces telling thatn') ;o)

195 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:04:12am

re: #191 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

YESSS!

196 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:05:31am

re: #195 gmsc

It was completely unintentional.

/sometimes my eyes don't work...

{gmsc}

See? ;-)

197 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:05:49am

re: #194 claspur

Is this a semi-old joke? Read it yesterday on Politico from a blogger...never have heard it.
I've had a riot telling it to Libtards, and watching their faces as they try to :get it." lol

What does Obama and Osama have in common?
They both have(had) friends that've bombed The Pentagon.(love the blank looks on the Libtards faces telling thatn') ;o)

Well, they do have a little more in common . . .
;)

198 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:05:52am

re: #178 redc1c4

it's tasty stuff straight, with a little water... seems a shame to mix it with somethng like Coke or daquiri mix.


My wife trained as a French Chef, and we had some friends over for a great Robbie Burns / Haggis dinner tonight. She topped it off with a really great dessert, accompanied by some Drambuie. Wow. I didn't know at first that Drambuie shouldn't be swigged down like beer... Hic.
.

199 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:06:43am

re: #196 littleoldlady

It was completely unintentional.

/sometimes my eyes don't work...

{gmsc}

See? ;-)

All is forgiven. I wanted to stay up until fruitcup last night, but my body would only let me go as close as 5 minutes before.

200 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:06:55am

I ding littleoldlady up just so she has enough dings to support her in her later years when she cant post anymore.

/Sarc

201 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:08:39am

re: #200 Buster Bunny

Bunny! SWEETIE! :-)

/I'm ready for welfare now!

202 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:08:53am

re: #200 Buster Bunny

I ding littleoldlady up just so she has enough dings to support her in her later years when she cant post anymore.

/Sarc

I think as long as we're here, she'll always have plenty of dings.

(Wait, I could've phrased that better.)

203 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:08:53am

mmm .. fruitcup and daquiri .. add a touch of full cream vanilla icecream and you can sell me half a dozen at $20 a hit !

204 claspur  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:09:00am

re: #197 gmsc
That's a good one too.
Wish I wasn't so ignornet to do(design) items like that.
*sigh

205 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:09:22am

re: #198 Tamron

I am an admirer of Robbie Burns, but haggis? How was it.?

206 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:09:22am

re: #193 redc1c4
Some Hot staff sergeant Medic from one of the units I was attached to to assist with their combat readiness training.

207 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:09:47am

re: #200 Buster Bunny

I ding littleoldlady up just so she has enough dings to support her in her later years when she cant post anymore.

/Sarc

Yeah, put 'em in an Escrow Account for her.

HI, LITTLE OLD LADY! (Hic...)
.

208 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:11:30am

re: #205 BatGuano

I am an admirer of Robbie Burns, but haggis? How was it.?

(Hic...) T'were WONNNDERFUL!
.

209 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:12:21am

re: #204 claspur

That's a good one too.
Wish I wasn't so ignornet to do(design) items like that.
*sigh

That one was easy - you can create one just like it online here! There are other versions at the bottom.

As a matter of fact, here are a whole bunch more toys that will allow to create fun and strange things on the internet, without a lot of hard work!

210 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:12:49am

re: #198 Tamron

My wife trained as a French Chef, and we had some friends over for a great Robbie Burns / Haggis dinner tonight. She topped it off with a really great dessert, accompanied by some Drambuie. Wow. I didn't know at first that Drambuie shouldn't be swigged down like beer... Hic.
.

great and haggis in the same sentence?

you *have* been swilling the Drambuie.

/white smoke

211 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:13:06am

Did you guys hear that this Black Plague I said was weaponized .. actually is? From what i've been hearing from the whisper grape vine .. it was a deliberately more virulent strain. These guys died in hours not days. And the remaining crew from Al Qidding Ya Self .. they all crapped their pants and surrendered to authorities hoping for a frickin cure !

Play with fire .. you gotta know the rules ...

212 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:13:54am

re: #211 Buster Bunny If your gonna play with fire soak yourself in Gasoline first?

213 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:14:12am

re: #206 Rustler

Some Hot staff sergeant Medic from one of the units I was attached to to assist with their combat readiness training.

*WHACK!*

you know what i meant.

/got pics?

214 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:14:13am
215 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:14:38am

re: #212 Rustler

If your gonna play with fire soak yourself in Gasoline first?

Makes a lousy suicide bomber.

216 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:14:44am

Tamron! :-) Where you been?!

217 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:16:08am

re: #211 Buster Bunny

Did you guys hear that this Black Plague I said was weaponized .. actually is? From what i've been hearing from the whisper grape vine .. it was a deliberately more virulent strain. These guys died in hours not days. And the remaining crew from Al Qidding Ya Self .. they all crapped their pants and surrendered to authorities hoping for a frickin cure !

Play with fire .. you gotta know the rules ...


We'll never know exactly where their virulent strain was first created, either.
.

218 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:16:47am

re: #208 Tamron

More power to ya! Glad you liked it.

219 claspur  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:16:52am

re: #209 gmsc

thx gsmc

220 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:17:33am

re: #204 claspur

That's a good one too.
Wish I wasn't so ignornet to do(design) items like that.
*sigh

there's always this toy for making gems like this.

221 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:18:24am

re: #216 littleoldlady

Tamron! :-) Where you been?!


Hi gal! Been on another planet for awhile. Came back when I heard all of our problems were solved.

I'm so H A P P P Y, I could just make a mess.
.

222 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:18:40am

re: #211 Buster Bunny

Did you guys hear that this Black Plague I said was weaponized .. actually is? From what i've been hearing from the whisper grape vine .. it was a deliberately more virulent strain. These guys died in hours not days. And the remaining crew from Al Qidding Ya Self .. they all crapped their pants and surrendered to authorities hoping for a frickin cure !

Play with fire .. you gotta know the rules ...

What if they're weaponizing for a future attack?

:-/

That's just a bit nerve-wracking.

223 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:18:54am

re: #187 Rustler

re: #188 redc1c4

I had my commander come through for a room inspection on a Friday afternoon and tell me he wanted my room painted by Monday morning. My room mate and I went to supply to get some paint but they had left and it was closed. I told the 1SG and he said to "just get some damn paint and paint the damn room and do what you are told". My room mate and I as well as a couple of my friends sat around drinking that night trying to figure out where we could acquire some paint. One of the guys stated they had been painting conexs over at the other battalion so we drifted over there and sto... picked up a couple of cans of paint as well as the gear they had left sitting outside the supply room door.

We painted that whole room, ceiling and walls, flat black. That looked so bitchen we went to the mall that night and picked up some black curtains to go with it.

The commander had a right little fit standing in my doorway and promptly went to his office. The 1SG sent us to see him only to find he had scheduled appointments with mental hygiene for the both of us for pysch evals. When I was talking to the Colonel (the shrink), he stated I had no problem, so the two of us spent about two hours just BSing, smoking and drinking coffee. He did suggest I find more practical methods of dealing with unreasonable people though.

And it took more than six coats of paint to cover that crap up.

224 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:19:09am

re: #217 Tamron

We'll never know exactly where their virulent strain was first created, either.
.

i wonder if it was an intelligent design...

/white smoke

225 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:19:37am
226 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:20:02am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Hi littleoldlady, thank you for the fruitcup. Remember me: bat poop?

227 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:20:07am

re: #219 claspur

thx gsmc

You're welcome.

228 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:20:39am

re: #222 TheMatrix31

What if they're weaponizing for a future attack?

:-/

That's just a bit nerve-wracking.

Nerve racking was Nov 13 2003 .. this is peanuts in comparison.

229 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:20:51am

re: #221 Tamron

...I could just make a mess...

Me, too. :-( :-( :-(

I'm wondering how this is all playing out with those clever (mostly conservative) folks who refused to vote this time around.

230 freetoken  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:21:12am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Thanks for the fruit... I'll need it for strength as I beat my head up against the Reuters Blog comment entry software... maddening it is, I keep typing in correct "anti-spam" key words and the website keeps throwing up and telling me I've entered them wrongly ! Finally I got it to work, but only after multiple re-entry (and reloading) attempts.

Makes one appreciate Charles' implementation here at LGF.

231 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:22:24am

re: #218 BatGuano

More power to ya! Glad you liked it.


Gotta tell ya, it really takes a good Chef to make some of that stuff taste wonderful. I got a good one, there. We got married 10 years ago and EVERYTHING she fixes is absolutely great. (Except for Tofu Hotdogs just one time, and we got that ironed out in a hurry.)

Gained 20 pounds, and am currently looking for a good exercise program.
.

232 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:23:01am

re: #226 BatGuano

Who could forget?! ;-)

BatGuano! :-)

233 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:23:09am

re: #223 Outrider

love it... being a Reservist, i didn't have too much of that crap, but i did run into more than my fair share of morons, and they usually walked off worse for wear.

very few came back for seconds: seems they didn't like the way i played Army. %-)

234 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:23:13am

re: #228 Buster Bunny

Nerve racking was Nov 13 2003 .. this is peanuts in comparison.

I'm not getting the reference...forgive me!

235 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:23:55am

re: #232 littleoldlady

Who could forget?! ;-)

BatGuano! :-)

There is bat guano in the fruitcup?

Does that add a little extra something to the mix?

236 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:24:25am

freetoken! :-)

Enriched fruitcup!

/for the next few years...at least. :-/

237 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:24:29am

re: #228 Buster Bunny

Nerve racking was Nov 13 2003 .. this is peanuts in comparison.

? what's that date?

238 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:24:51am

re: #225 gmsc

Hilarious! :-)

239 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:24:51am

re: #234 TheMatrix31

I'm not getting the reference...forgive me!

Think the last line of Batman Begins for that.

And I hope you never will.

240 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:24:56am

re: #213 redc1c4

Nah was a good 10 years and 12 moves ago. Was in 18th Airborne Corps as a corp asset. Nominally part of 82d LRSD but stolen by corps and forced into doing their dirty work of making non combat units have better Combat readiness scores. It's part of the reason I had so many awards every 3 months or so i was sent either to another unit to aid in training and received an AAM after or I was deployed to random places for random reasons. Or the funnest one of the Bunch was when I was assigned with to an Airforce test Company to certify the C-17 for heavy drop, halo, and Static line jumps. Just found it funny cliff diving made me suicidal when I routinely jumped out of perfectly good airplanes to make sure others were safe when they did it.

241 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:25:02am

re: #236 littleoldlady

freetoken! :-)

Enriched fruitcup!

/for the next few years...at least. :-/

that's why i served mine first.

242 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:27:10am

re: #238 littleoldlady

Hilarious! :-)

Thanks - Chuck Berry will always be a true classic!

243 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:27:46am

re: #241 redc1c4

that's why i served mine first.

red! :-)

Why don't we just cut to the chase and mix them both together?

/conservation

244 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:27:59am

re: #229 littleoldlady
I hope they realise it is actually them who are responsible for the m,ess we are in now. Can't blame those so Ignorant they voted for Obambi but I can sure as hell blame those who sat on their asses while letting the Ignorant plot the course of our country for the next 4 years.

245 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:28:17am

re: #229 littleoldlady

Me, too. :-( :-( :-(

I'm wondering how this is all playing out with those clever (mostly conservative) folks who refused to vote this time around.

Too damn many people have severe blinders on. Gotta be something in the water supply -- people just aren't THAT complacent for no reason at all.

Hey LOL, have you yet seen Gran Torino, Clint Eastwood's latest new movie?

GO SEE IT. Dang, it strikes a few chords.
.

246 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:28:58am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Morning lol. Thanks for fruitcup. red yours has made my head spin again.

247 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:29:09am

re: #240 Rustler

and you never went anywhere without max per diem, right?

/my stories would bore you, most likely. just st00pid Guard shit.

248 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:29:24am

re: #231 Tamron

Sorry about the tofu hot dogs, but you are a lucky man. I know what haggis is and she makes it great, life is good.

249 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:29:45am

re: #243 littleoldlady

red! :-)

Why don't we just cut to the chase and mix them both together?

/conservation

ah, but they are...

/just didn't tell you. %-)

250 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:29:55am

re: #240 Rustler

Nah was a good 10 years and 12 moves ago. Was in 18th Airborne Corps as a corp asset. Nominally part of 82d LRSD but stolen by corps and forced into doing their dirty work of making non combat units have better Combat readiness scores. It's part of the reason I had so many awards every 3 months or so i was sent either to another unit to aid in training and received an AAM after or I was deployed to random places for random reasons. Or the funnest one of the Bunch was when I was assigned with to an Airforce test Company to certify the C-17 for heavy drop, halo, and Static line jumps. Just found it funny cliff diving made me suicidal when I routinely jumped out of perfectly good airplanes to make sure others were safe when they did it.

no such thing as a perfectly good airplane. Just one the law of averages hasn't caught up with yet. Most crack up on landing...get off half way.

251 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:29:59am

re: #245 Tamron

Too damn many people have severe blinders on. Gotta be something in the water supply -- people just aren't THAT complacent for no reason at all.

Hey LOL, have you yet seen Gran Torino, Clint Eastwood's latest new movie?

GO SEE IT. Dang, it strikes a few chords.
.

I'm so sad that the Libs are crapping all over it. Hell of a movie, and represents the best of what people are capable of.

Might even represent the best of America .. as it was.

252 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:30:28am

re: #247 redc1c4
Man I got perdiem like 3 times. One of the 3 was only a 3 day trip too : (.
But I did recieve more special and haz duty pays than most.

253 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:30:47am

re: #245 Tamron

Too damn many people have severe blinders on. Gotta be something in the water supply -- people just aren't THAT complacent for no reason at all.

Hey LOL, have you yet seen Gran Torino, Clint Eastwood's latest new movie?

GO SEE IT. Dang, it strikes a few chords.
.

and yet it was nominated for 0 oscars.

/fuckers

254 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:31:23am

re: #248 BatGuano

Sorry about the tofu hot dogs, but you are a lucky man. I know what haggis is and she makes it great, life is good.

what are tofu hot dogs made with? All the scrap parts of the tofu can can't be used anywhere else? ;-)>

255 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:32:40am

re: #250 Outrider

no such thing as a perfectly good airplane. Just one the law of averages hasn't caught up with yet. Most crack up on landing...get off half way.

stay on the ground...

"Death Before Dismount!"

256 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:32:55am

re: #252 Rustler
What really sucked was when i reclasses and my paperwork was screwed up so I went TCS instead of TDY. 5 months living alone in a barracks being remodeled because I couldn't be housed with the initial AIT trainees and becasue I wasn't TDY didn't qualify for perdiem.

257 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:33:55am

re: #255 redc1c4

stay on the ground...

"Death Before Dismount!"

cute ;-)>

258 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:35:23am

re: #252 Rustler

Man I got perdiem like 3 times. One of the 3 was only a 3 day trip too : (.
But I did recieve more special and haz duty pays than most.

like me, yours was probably almost always considered in the field? While others got those slick little TDYs to DC or the like?

259 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:35:25am

re: #235 Buster Bunny

A little somethin',somehtin'; know what I'm sayin'?

260 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:35:56am

New Paris Hilton sex tape out ! Just in time for Easter shoppers !

261 freetoken  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:36:01am

re: #236 littleoldlady


Enriched fruitcup!

Much appreciated... unlike Red's (whose fruitcup always leaves me with a headache in the morning) your fruitcup is wholesome and delicious!

262 gmsc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:37:07am

It's getting too late for me. I'm going to go off to bed.

Good night, everyone - especially littleoldlady!

263 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:37:31am

What does Paris Hilton look like with clothes on? I've never seen it before.

264 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:37:39am

re: #244 Rustler

re: #245 Tamron

Actually my favorite targets are going to be liberals with money (I don't know any conservatives who didn't vote!) who are going to suffer mightily under the Messiah.

Meanwhile, my latest plan for personal success is to tell my accountant to take a hike, buy TurboTax, forget to pay my taxes - (OOPSIE!) - and apply for a government job...

265 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:38:08am

Erik! :-)

266 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:38:22am

re: #251 Buster Bunny

I'm so sad that the Libs are crapping all over it. Hell of a movie, and represents the best of what people are capable of. Might even represent the best of America .. as it was.

Hmmm. Didn't know the libs even cared about that flick. Wonder why; they don't have an axe to grind one way or the other, unless it's that they LIKE to see people living under the thumb of gang rule, with no way out.

Can't fathom it at all. Whassup with them? Maybe it's just that seeing an Alpha Male making things go right, scares their very genetic makeup.
.

267 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:38:28am

re: #257 Outrider

cute ;-)>

"Maintenance is for people who hate walking."

it always amazed me when people asked why i was w*rking on my track/truck/whatever... in all my years, i only had 1 major malfunction that resulted in a vehicle dieing on me, and that was when they transferred our tracks back to us at Roberts from Irwin... half the transfer case on the M-220 quit spinning, but it was full of oil, so it wasn't my fault. it was just tired...

even when i was in a DS maintenance unit, their shit died on them left & right.

268 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:38:32am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

269 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:39:09am

Good morning LGF.

270 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:39:31am

re: #261 freetoken

DAM, that looks good!

/h'hungry! ;-)

271 Buster Bunny  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:40:26am

Wonderful word for what the Liberals are doing now.

Its called Deconstructionism - taking apart something just because its there.

272 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:40:48am

re: #267 redc1c4

"Maintenance is for people who hate walking."

it always amazed me when people asked why i was w*rking on my track/truck/whatever... in all my years, i only had 1 major malfunction that resulted in a vehicle dieing on me, and that was when they transferred our tracks back to us at Roberts from Irwin... half the transfer case on the M-220 quit spinning, but it was full of oil, so it wasn't my fault. it was just tired...

even when i was in a DS maintenance unit, their shit died on them left & right.

I hated them things. We had 113s. I volunteered for recon just to get the hell away from any vehicles.

273 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:41:36am

re: #260 Buster Bunny

New Paris Hilton sex tape out ! Just in time for Easter shoppers !

is anyone still having sex with the old Paris Hilton?

274 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:41:42am

re: #254 Outrider

what are tofu hot dogs made with? All the scrap parts of the tofu can can't be used anywhere else? ;-)>


These were plain, unflavored, and what one would imagine wallboard paste to taste like. Absolutely NO taste, and I lived in Japan 3 years and ate quite a bit of tofu in soup etc, so it wasn't as if it was something new to me.

Since then we've developed a certain taste for Tofurkey sausages, made with tofu and turkey. Lots of flavor and almost as good as real meat.

I'm NOT a vegetarian, by the way.
.

275 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:42:14am

re: #273 redc1c4

is anyone still having sex with the old Paris Hilton?

old paris hilton? was there a chance she was getting younger?

276 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:44:32am

re: #274 Tamron

These were plain, unflavored, and what one would imagine wallboard paste to taste like. Absolutely NO taste, and I lived in Japan 3 years and ate quite a bit of tofu in soup etc, so it wasn't as if it was something new to me.

Since then we've developed a certain taste for Tofurkey sausages, made with tofu and turkey. Lots of flavor and almost as good as real meat.

I'm NOT a vegetarian, by the way.
.

I did three years in Okinawa so am familiar with it. Can't say as I like it. They told me there was no taste, I tasted it and didn't like it. or the texture. Glad others like it though, means there won't be a surplus and I'd have to eat it. ;-)>

277 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:44:46am

re: #272 Outrider

I hated them things. We had 113s. I volunteered for recon just to get the hell away from any vehicles.

nothing wrong with Armored Personnel Crematoriums %-)

at least on the M220 & 901 TOW variant, if you got hit in the missile rack area, you'd never know...

besides, after Benning ruined my lower legs, it paid to stay with a vehicle.

278 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:45:08am

re: #262 gmsc

Good night; your National Guard is awake.

279 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:45:42am

re: #258 Outrider
Most of mine were just being attached to other units on base. Or to the Field with Marines from Legune. My attachment to pope aiforce base just meant instead of going thru 1 gate to get on Bragg i went thru 2 to get into Pope. Other than that was concidered field in Panama, El Salvador, Sinai, Bad Krunacht in Germany and I think it was Sderot for my 2 weeks in Israel for the big ones. My TDY trips were Assignment to the War College, Advisor/Proctor at JRTC, and a 3 day trip to pick up a Helo from Sikorski.

280 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:45:58am

re: #274 Tamron

These were plain, unflavored, and what one would imagine wallboard paste to taste like. Absolutely NO taste, and I lived in Japan 3 years and ate quite a bit of tofu in soup etc, so it wasn't as if it was something new to me.

Since then we've developed a certain taste for Tofurkey sausages, made with tofu and turkey. Lots of flavor and almost as good as real meat.

I'm NOT a vegetarian, by the way.
.

Why would anyone eat tofu unless you are vegetarian?

281 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:46:13am

re: #267 redc1c4

"Maintenance is for people who hate walking."

it always amazed me when people asked why i was w*rking on my track/truck/whatever... in all my years, i only had 1 major malfunction that resulted in a vehicle dieing on me, and that was when they transferred our tracks back to us at Roberts from Irwin... half the transfer case on the M-220 quit spinning, but it was full of oil, so it wasn't my fault. it was just tired...

even when i was in a DS maintenance unit, their shit died on them left & right.


My dad was a really good heavy equipment operator and mechanic for many years. He was the sort of person who could practically take something out of a junkyard, fill up the fluid levels, and make it happily run for 20 more years. Conversely, I've seen people who were so jinxed, I swear they could just walk past a brand-new D9 Bulldozer and the blade would fall right off all by itself.
.

282 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:46:58am

re: #276 Outrider

I did three years in Okinawa so am familiar with it. Can't say as I like it. They told me there was no taste, I tasted it and didn't like it. or the texture. Glad others like it though, means there won't be a surplus and I'd have to eat it. ;-)>

i'd rather have a can of ham and mothers than tofu.

283 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:47:14am

re: #266 Tamron
It's racist there isn't a white gangbanger in the movie.///

284 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:49:42am

re: #267 redc1c4
Yeah I kinda only got a ride part way to anywhere else I was going. Could never quite figure out the airborne mentality of calling NAP's legs. They rode everywhere we flew part way and walked. I have some boots that are still operational tho soles have been repped 6 or 7 times that have more miles on em than some peoples cars.

285 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:50:12am

re: #276 Outrider

I did three years in Okinawa so am familiar with it. Can't say as I like it. They told me there was no taste, I tasted it and didn't like it. or the texture. Glad others like it though, means there won't be a surplus and I'd have to eat it. ;-)>

When were you in Okinawa? I was stationed in Atsugi, Japan in the mid 1960's. Looked out the window of our plane and saw Okinawa now and then, on our way to & from our detachment in 'Nam.
.

286 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:53:28am

re: #277 redc1c4

nothing wrong with Armored Personnel Crematoriums %-)

at least on the M220 & 901 TOW variant, if you got hit in the missile rack area, you'd never know...

besides, after Benning ruined my lower legs, it paid to stay with a vehicle.

I was with them for a few months as a 19D ( 1/10 Cav, 4ID) just long enough to know I hated the things. ;-)>

287 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:53:31am

re: #281 Tamron

My dad was a really good heavy equipment operator and mechanic for many years. He was the sort of person who could practically take something out of a junkyard, fill up the fluid levels, and make it happily run for 20 more years. Conversely, I've seen people who were so jinxed, I swear they could just walk past a brand-new D9 Bulldozer and the blade would fall right off all by itself.
.

the DS folxs were just lazy, and the FFT's in the unit refused to let anything be done on weekends, less it lower the w*rk load in their weekday j*bs at the shops... we had these 5 ton tractors that everyone drove on weekends, and with fuel tanks on each side, you'd think they'd use both routinely, right?

nope: they always used the drivers side because it was easier to refill, so when we went to training, as they started drawing on the other tank, all the algee that had grown in the year old diesel clogged the fuel filters.

the wound up having to disassemble the filters on the side of the road on each vehicle as it died, and use a screwdriver to punch holes through the clogged filters to let the DF2 through, so they could drive them in. instead of supporting the Brigade convoy as tasked, we spent the first two days just recovering our junk.

288 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:55:04am

re: #284 Rustler

Yeah I kinda only got a ride part way to anywhere else I was going. Could never quite figure out the airborne mentality of calling NAP's legs. They rode everywhere we flew part way and walked. I have some boots that are still operational tho soles have been repped 6 or 7 times that have more miles on em than some peoples cars.

the tactical outcome of Gallant Eagle speaks volumes. the real world result of the drop was just a shame and a crime, IMHO.

289 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:55:13am

re: #255 redc1c4

When I was young man it was '' Death before Disco".

290 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:56:30am

re: #286 Outrider

I was with them for a few months as a 19D ( 1/10 Cav, 4ID) just long enough to know I hated the things. ;-)>

HHT & A Trp 1/18th Cav
(among other units)

i wished i'd been in a position to join the Cav unit to start: i might never have gone anywhere else.

291 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:57:26am

re: #279 Rustler

Most of mine were just being attached to other units on base. Or to the Field with Marines from Legune. My attachment to pope aiforce base just meant instead of going thru 1 gate to get on Bragg i went thru 2 to get into Pope. Other than that was concidered field in Panama, El Salvador, Sinai, Bad Krunacht in Germany and I think it was Sderot for my 2 weeks in Israel for the big ones. My TDY trips were Assignment to the War College, Advisor/Proctor at JRTC, and a 3 day trip to pick up a Helo from Sikorski.

I hit El Sal a couple times. Patrolling in the Tarola area along the NE border area back in the 80s. Also did Guatamala and Hondorus (a couple times mostly in SCentral border area.) Panama I hit only as transit. I did Bogata area twice also.

292 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:57:55am

re: #289 BatGuano

When I was young man it was '' Death before Disco".

i think i still have that shirt at my parents house.

/no way in hell it fits though. %-)

293 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:59:16am

re: #285 Tamron

When were you in Okinawa? I was stationed in Atsugi, Japan in the mid 1960's. Looked out the window of our plane and saw Okinawa now and then, on our way to & from our detachment in 'Nam.
.

I was there 81-84. Then to Hood. It was an interesting tour.

294 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:59:22am

re: #291 Outrider El salvador was done as a hurricane relief effort. I'm pretty sure we hit Columbia a few times but officially we were training in Panama.

295 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 2:59:53am

Running receipts and security check BBIAB.

296 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:01:18am

re: #292 redc1c4

i think i still have that shirt at my parents house.

/no way in hell it fits though. %-)

I had the bumper sticker for years, "Help stamp out disco in our lifetime" ;-)>

297 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:01:39am

that's it... i'm for the rack. Household 6 will be expecting gawd knows what out of me in a few hours, and sleeping in won't be any part of it.

hasta y'all...

L8r!

298 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:01:59am

re: #294 Rustler

El salvador was done as a hurricane relief effort. I'm pretty sure we hit Columbia a few times but officially we were training in Panama.

we were there as part of Reagans "outreach" program. ;-)>

299 Outrider  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:02:45am

re: #297 redc1c4

that's it... i'm for the rack. Household 6 will be expecting gawd knows what out of me in a few hours, and sleeping in won't be any part of it.

hasta y'all...

L8r!

yeah, it' past 6 already. night all

300 redc1c4  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:03:00am

re: #296 Outrider

I had the bumper sticker for years, "Help stamp out disco in our lifetime" ;-)>

and instead of that, it morphed into Hip-hop...

/proof there is no such thing as "intelligent design"

301 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:04:48am

'Night, red...Outrider.

302 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:05:50am

re: #287 redc1c4

the DS folxs were just lazy, and the FFT's in the unit refused to let anything be done on weekends, less it lower the w*rk load in their weekday j*bs at the shops... we had these 5 ton tractors that everyone drove on weekends, and with fuel tanks on each side, you'd think they'd use both routinely, right?

nope: they always used the drivers side because it was easier to refill, so when we went to training, as they started drawing on the other tank, all the algee that had grown in the year old diesel clogged the fuel filters.

the wound up having to disassemble the filters on the side of the road on each vehicle as it died, and use a screwdriver to punch holes through the clogged filters to let the DF2 through, so they could drive them in. instead of supporting the Brigade convoy as tasked, we spent the first two days just recovering our junk.


Hey Red, you might like some blogs and websites that I came across sometime last year regarding fuel filters, additives and so forth. Bookmark them and browse around. These guys did some interesting experiments and tests:

[Link: www.dieselplace.com...]
[Link: www.smokstak.com...]
[Link: www.dieselcraft.com...]

I have a hobby-interest in alternative-energy things, and these popped up when I was looking up Lister and Witte generators for the Alaskan outback.
.

303 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:06:32am

Good night Outrider and redc.

304 x-wing  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:06:35am

re: #301 littleoldlady

'Night, red...Outrider.

Morning LoL, which fruitcup is "guano free" ? I don't want to go to work with shit breath ;>}

305 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:09:31am

re: #304 x-wing

Morning LoL, which fruitcup is "guano free" ? I don't want to go to work with shit breath ;>}

LOL

Hey Little Old Lady, do you have any fruitcups that are "tofu free"?

How's about if I slosh a jigger of Drambuie in a fruitcup, any problems with that? (Drambuie is in season, this time of the year.)
.

306 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:09:38am

re: #304 x-wing Red's fruitcup has no Guano but it's not really worksafe especially if there is any Heavy Machineary at the office.

307 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:09:52am

re: #304 x-wing

x-wing! :-)

Ya know, if I hung around you more often I bet I'd lose a LOT of weight... ;-)

308 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:11:32am

re: #305 Tamron
As long as you add it to Lol's cup should be OK additions to red's fruitcup must be made at your own risk. I'd recommend getting the MSDS for red's cup and ensuring that the addition of ethanol based additives won't cause a major explosion.

309 x-wing  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:12:00am

re: #306 Rustler

Red's fruitcup has no Guano but it's not really worksafe especially if there is any Heavy Machineary at the office.

I better pass then. Gotta run. I'll check back later today.

Try to keep your scales dry lizards, later.

310 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:14:10am

re: #305 Tamron

Tamron,

There's no tofu in anything I make!

/almost as bad as bat guano
//well...ALMOST

Drambuie is fine. Sambuca is good, too.

/oh, what the heck! throw in some grain alcohol and be done with ot!

311 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:14:37am

re: #304 x-wing

Hey, was that a shot?

312 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:15:32am

re: #308 Rustler

As long as you add it to Lol's cup should be OK additions to red's fruitcup must be made at your own risk. I'd recommend getting the MSDS for red's cup and ensuring that the addition of ethanol based additives won't cause a major explosion.

Heh. You wanna see an explosion, turn on Rush Limbaugh on Monday morning. I don't listen to him very often, but he's got all weekend to get really cranked up over Obama's remark about him on Friday.

Hmmm... I wonder if Rush could claim "RACIST!"

New Horizons!
.

313 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:17:40am

re: #312 Tamron One of my first comments on this thread was about my anticipation of Rush's response to the big 0.

314 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:18:54am

What channel is he on?

/never listened to Rush before...

315 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:20:20am

re: #313 Rustler

One of my first comments on this thread was about my anticipation of Rush's response to the big 0.


Yup, it'll make Rush more popular than ever, what with little ol' Rush being picked-on by the Great Big Prez. He's gonna get lots of mileage out of that one. Bet he doesn't sleep all weekend.
.

316 BatGuano  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:23:09am

re: #314 littleoldlady

You have never listened to Rush Limbaugh before?

317 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:23:22am

re: #314 littleoldlady
Rush I radio only no tv show that I can recall. I usually livestream him from [Link: www.770kkob.com...] it's the local AM radio station.

318 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:24:22am

re: #314 littleoldlady

What channel is he on?

/never listened to Rush before...


Hmmm. Depends on where you live. Here in Anchorage he's on 650 AM, but that's no clue on what frequency it'll be at your location. You have less than two days to find out, but I'll bet Google will solve the riddle. He's quite a showman, blustery and all but he has a lot of clout. Worth listening at least once to, and Monday he'll really be wound up. Give it a shot.
.

319 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:26:09am

re: #316 BatGuano

You have never listened to Rush Limbaugh before?

Nope. The only time I've listened to talk-radio was when Charles was on.

320 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:26:14am

re: #318 Tamron
I believe can go to Rushlimbaugh . com and he has a list of affiliate stations he plays on.

321 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:26:34am

Hey LOL, check this out:

[Link: www.rtis.com...]

322 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:26:34am

re: #314 littleoldlady

What channel is he on?

/never listened to Rush before...

I listen Here

323 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:27:52am
324 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:27:56am

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...] is his homepage a dropdown at top named stations should be able to point you the right way.

325 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:30:08am

Ooops, my pumpkin just turned into a chariot.

Gotta go for now, y'all. It's been real.
.

326 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:30:30am

Bye, Tamron! :-)

Good to have you back!

327 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:31:07am

Hey, LOL, what city are you in?

328 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:31:25am

re: #323 littleoldlady
Ok good. I won't tell you to listen every day but Monday like said above should be really good since Obama asked Capital hill Republicans not to listen to him if they want to be friendly with his Administration.

329 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:32:28am

re: #324 Rustler

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...] is his homepage a dropdown at top named stations should be able to point you the right way.

Anyone know of a net based news/talk station that operated out of Orlando? Can't find one and I want to get up to date with the news there for my move in June/July.
Thanks

330 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:34:38am

re: #327 Tamron

Philadelphia. We have talk radio, too!

/who knew?

PLUS, we wear shoes...

331 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:36:18am

re: #330 littleoldlady

Philadelphia. We have talk radio, too!

/who knew?

PLUS, we wear shoes...

ROTF

332 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:36:49am

This should be Orlando based talk radio. Not sure if it's conservative talk radio tho.

333 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:38:29am

re: #332 Rustler
Looks like it's run by the (C)ommunist (B)roadcast (S)tation tho.

334 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:40:52am

re: #332 Rustler

This should be Orlando based talk radio. Not sure if it's conservative talk radio tho.

Thanks looks like it may be OK

335 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:41:44am

AM 540 is another Orlando area Talk radio station.

336 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:42:26am

re: #334 Erik The Red
Yeah saw the programming after I saw the CBS sponsership.

337 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:43:59am

re: #335 Rustler
Here is the link for AM540.

338 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:48:05am

How frikken immature do you have to be to say something as stupid as that!?

"Don't listen to Rush or you can't be my friend!"

/sheesh

339 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:49:02am

re: #337 Rustler

Here is the link for AM540.

Thanks bookmarked both.

340 Tamron  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:50:17am

re: #330 littleoldlady

Philadelphia. We have talk radio, too!

/who knew?

PLUS, we wear shoes...

Still on, just for another second or so.

LOL, here's the scoop:
WPHT AM Radio 1210 on your dial, listen to Rush from 12 noon to 3pm, your time.

G'night!

341 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:50:30am

re: #338 littleoldlady
Apparently Immature enough to get elected to this nations highest public service office. But his whole I won that trumps you quote is even worse in my opinion. It makes me think he beleives we elected him as a God-Emperor like in hte olden days.

342 freetoken  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:51:08am

re: #338 littleoldlady

According the NYPost, the actual quote was:

"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done"
343 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:51:35am

re: #339 Erik The Red
NP looks like it's 540 for rush but Dave Ramsey from the other station and Laura Ingram have fairly nice programs as well.

344 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:51:37am

re: #337 Rustler

Here is the link for AM540.

Shit can't listen to outside the US unless part of the Armed Services.

345 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:53:23am

Think the warning was implied in the statement.

WASHINGTON -- President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

346 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:54:06am

re: #338 littleoldlady

How frikken immature do you have to be to say something as stupid as that!?

"Don't listen to Rush or you can't be my friend!"

/sheesh

See here lol.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

347 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:54:48am

re: #342 freetoken

Oh cripes! Now I need a translation!

/why don't they just surgically attach that teleprompter already?

348 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:54:49am

re: #246 Erik The Red

What's the story with "fruitcup"?

349 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:55:40am

re: #342 freetoken

The quote was made in this context.

The response was to the objection by Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) to the president's proposal to increase benefits for low-income workers who don't owe federal income taxes.

Cantor protested about people with no tax liability receiving rebates Obama then basically accused rush of being responsible for any idea counter to his own.

350 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:57:34am

re: #348 Sheepdogess
Red collects Lol's left over fruit cup and adds his own magic concoction to it lets it sit in a cooler for about 2 weeks and then serves it.

351 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:57:39am

re: #348 Sheepdogess

What's the story with "fruitcup"?

Ask littleoldlady how it started but every day at 2am west and 5am east time lol serves fruitcup for us LNDT and all are welcome to partake. Make sure you up ding and say thank you.

352 Bubblehead II  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 3:58:52am

Morning all. In response to the Ones remark about listening to Rush. Can you say, Fairness Doctrine?

/ I knew you could.

353 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:02:46am

re: #352 Bubblehead II

Morning all. In response to the Ones remark about listening to Rush. Can you say, unFairness Doctrine?

Fixed it for ya.

354 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:03:27am
355 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:03:30am

re: #352 Bubblehead II

Morning all. In response to the Ones remark about listening to Rush. Can you say, Fairness Doctrine?

/ I knew you could.

Surly that works both ways? What about cncbc or what ever that network is called

356 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:06:48am

re: #355 Erik The Red
Doesn't cut both ways because they talk audience sizes rather than airtime granted. Because 4 of the top 5 radio talk shows are conservative and the other is sports it doesn't give Liberal agendas a decent shake. I was under the impression that was a free market speaking but apparently it is in all actuallity Unfairness rearing its ugly head.

357 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:07:22am

re: #354 Iron Fist

Hey IF. Pick me up a o/u 12 guage, a 1911 and a few boxes of ammo for each before its to late. Will collect when I get stateside in June/July.

358 akak  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:09:12am
Pope Benedict on Saturday rehabilitated a traditionalist bishop who denies the Holocaust, despite warnings from Jewish leaders that it would seriously harm Catholic-Jewish relations and foment anti-Semitism.
The Vatican said the pope issued a decree lifting the excommunication of four traditionalist bishops who were thrown out of the Roman Catholic Church in 1988 for being ordained without Vatican permission. (Reuters)

rehabbed his ass I'm sure, prolly watched some pron on youtube whilst working on the new Popetube.

359 freetoken  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:10:17am

re: #354 Iron Fist

A most un-PC time piece:

/those crazed Japanese...

360 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:11:35am

Good morning, Lizards.

361 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:12:01am

re: #350 Rustler

re: #351 Erik The Red

Sounds great. Where can I find it?

362 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:12:56am

Everyone go here and save the F-22 Raptor

363 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:13:21am

re: #360 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

{goddess}

364 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:14:13am

re: #361 Sheepdogess

re: #351 Erik The Red

Sounds great. Where can I find it?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

365 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:14:15am

re: #361 Sheepdogess

Sheepdogess! :-)

Bon appetit!

366 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:15:09am

re: #365 littleoldlady

Sheepdogess! :-)

Bon appetit!

How do you do that link lol?

367 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:16:01am
368 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:16:30am

re: #362 Erik The Red
I told Rancher the Raptor was dead when Obama got elected I don't think he beleived me. The Raptor death blow is coming about because Obama doesn't think its fair for the US to have a Gen 5 Aircraft when hte rest of teh World is stuck with Gen 4.

369 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:16:46am

re: #363 Erik The Red

{goddess}

{Erik the Red}

370 littleoldlady  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:17:01am

goddess! :-)

371 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:17:25am

Morning Goddess.

372 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:17:49am
373 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:19:34am

re: #372 Iron Fist
Well you need boats in the muck and mire so you can get elected by saying you'll help man the bilge pump and get em back afloat.

374 tappin52  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:20:06am

Rush Limbaugh is a master at turning events like these into gold in his favor. The fact that he has a few days to mold his approach is just a perk. I can not believe Obama's naivete at poking this hornets nest.

375 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:20:24am

{littleoldlady}
{Rustler}

I am STUNNED that President Obama made the comment about Rush. I hope that stiffens the spines of the Republicans.

376 Bubblehead II  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:21:03am

re: #353 Rustler

Not if you are a Lib. Since they can't do talk radio worth a damn, it is only fair that those who are good at it should be forced to give the opposing side a chance to tell their side of the story in a venue that actually has listeners.

/ Damn, pretzel logic this early in the morning hurts.

377 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:21:05am

Has anyone here followed a hopen thread fron start to finish in one go? I am gonna try today if I can control the rum and scotch intake.

378 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:21:56am

re: #374 tappin52

Rush Limbaugh is a master at turning events like these into gold in his favor. The fact that he has a few days to mold his approach is just a perk. I can not believe Obama's naivete at poking this hornets nest.

Monday's show should be explosive. Will not miss this one.

379 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:23:35am

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

I just can't believe Obama made that comment where it would get out. I can easily see him doing it in private but I would have assumed his handlers/puppet masters would have told him poking that hornets nest was a mistake. Rush is a very polarizing figure among conservatives. He has an audience big enough to cause Obama nasty headaches. Obama may have just shot himself in the foot.

380 Bubblehead II  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:23:46am

re: #360 goddessoftheclassroom

Morning goddess.

381 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:25:07am

re: #377 Erik The Red
I usually am lurking for most of the Late night Drinking threads since I work but will break to watch some TV or do security checks while I'm here.

382 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:26:07am

re: #379 Rustler

I just can't believe Obama made that comment where it would get out. I can easily see him doing it in private but I would have assumed his handlers/puppet masters would have told him poking that hornets nest was a mistake. Rush is a very polarizing figure among conservatives. He has an audience big enough to cause Obama nasty headaches. Obama may have just shot himself in the foot.

He's "audacity" in his first few days shows he's is NOT interested in uniting at all,

Go Rush!

383 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:26:21am

re: #380 Bubblehead II

Morning goddess.

{Bubblehead II}

384 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:26:38am
385 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:27:08am

I just wish Rush had actually come out in the Primaries behind either Mitt or Thompson. I understand he doesn't like to get involved til the people choose a candidate but man even just coming out against McCain would have worked for me.

386 Bubblehead II  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:28:40am

Well, time to call it a day and get to work. Have a good day and I will see ya all L8R.

387 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:30:32am

re: #382 goddessoftheclassroom

He's "audacity" in his first few days shows he's is NOT interested in uniting at all,

Go Rush!

His--and other Democrats'--definition of bipartisanship is that Republicans just roll over. If they don't, the MFM squawks about how divisive they are.

388 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:30:56am

re: #379 Rustler

I just can't believe Obama made that comment where it would get out. I can easily see him doing it in private but I would have assumed his handlers/puppet masters would have told him poking that hornets nest was a mistake. Rush is a very polarizing figure among conservatives. He has an audience big enough to cause Obama nasty headaches. Obama may have just shot himself in the foot.

It won't matter. Rush listeners already feel the way they do about Obama.

Only one thing will happen here; Rush's ratings will go up.

389 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:30:59am

re: #384 Iron Fist
Make sure when you get your ammo for your Home defense 1911 you buy with Winchester Ranger SXT get teh box with t9 model number its the newer version in a 185 grain best expansion of the set the 180 grains don't expand as well due to lower muzzle velocity. Another Good altrernative is Federal EFMJ in a 180 grain +p round. Pretty sure the +P+ are Law enforcement only.

390 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:32:32am
391 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:33:46am

re: #384 Iron Fist

NP enjoy the show tomorrow. I will be donating my ammo to mates here and that should keep me drunk for a few weeks. My guns will be destroyed except my AA .22 which will magically appear in the US.

392 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:35:38am

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

{littleoldlady}
{Rustler}

I am STUNNED that President Obama made the comment about Rush. I hope that stiffens the spines of the Republicans.

All it does is speak volumes about the man. He can't handle criticism very well. I'm not Bush fan, but he could take a beating. He could take criticism.

Our new president, on his 3rd day, called out a private citizen in the media for speaking his opinion.

Otherwise, all this does is, as you say, solidify the resolve of the opposition, and will raise Rush's ratings. I'm not a frequent listener, but I'll be tuning in Monday for damn sure.

393 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:36:31am

re: #391 Erik The Red You can't apply for a permit to bring em in country or just way more red tape than it's worth?

394 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:36:32am
395 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:38:20am

re: #394 Iron Fist

Bah my bad yeah im thinking the .40 rounds with 180 and 185 grain. 45 should be 225 for the Ranger SXT and 215 for the Federal EFMJ(Expanding Full Metal Jacketed).

396 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:39:02am

Got to run off to teach an SAT prep course--later, Lizards!

397 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:39:59am

re: #393 Rustler

You can't apply for a permit to bring em in country or just way more red tape than it's worth?

To mush hassle. The guns are not worth that much and I would like to change my profile a bit. The ammo is worth some money tho thus my mates eternal gratitude/worship/drunkenness.

398 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:41:06am

re: #392 astronmr20

Is Rush a private citizen? He's a public figure. I'm not excusing what CBBHO said (in fact, I'm getting a kick out of it) but, I don't think that you can call someone private who has a huge following that he has cultivated for many, many years.

399 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:41:28am

re: #396 goddessoftheclassroom

Got to run off to teach an SAT prep course--later, Lizards!

Have fun!

400 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:42:26am

re: #392 astronmr20

He can't handle criticism very well.

Narcissists can't handle criticism.

401 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:42:46am

re: #398 MandyManners

Is Rush a private citizen? He's a public figure. I'm not excusing what CBBHO said (in fact, I'm getting a kick out of it) but, I don't think that you can call someone private who has a huge following that he has cultivated for many, many years.

He is, by definition, a private citizen. Obama also has the right to say what he wants about him. My point is simply that using the presidential bully pulpit to call out a singular person in the press- is very un-presidential.

402 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:43:55am

re: #394 Iron Fist
WINCHESTER RANGER RA45T (Talon)- .45ACP 230grn SXT Is the Ranger SXT box you want up to $28.5 now. the Federal round is 45 ACP Federal LE Tactical Expanding Full Metal Jacket (EFMJ) 200gr. +P Ammo. The LE tag means law enforcement but anyone can buy it just limits the stores in which the round is sold.

403 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:45:26am

Websense blocked me getting price on the Federals but they usually a bit more expensive except for .22 rounds for some reason.

404 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:46:13am

Anyone here from Florida? I am wondering how hard it is to get a permit to carry.

405 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:46:15am

re: #378 Erik The Red


Can't Wait!

The first time I heard Rush was in my car scanning the channels looking for Dennis Prager, who my husband said I had to give a listen. Wow. Ninety seconds with Rush and a big, fat so long to liberalism for me. It's No wonder the left hates him. I was a lefty back then. He changed my life. Whenever I have a liberal or a teen in my car during his show, I serve him up. It's interesting, the kids love him, the adult liberals get nervous, like they are committing adultery.

I fear for his safety.

406 tappin52  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:46:17am

The trouble with Obama'a thin skin is that he has many behind him willing to do some dirty work to protect his tender sensibilities.

407 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:46:19am
408 freetoken  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:46:22am

re: #390 Iron Fist

When I lived in Japan it seemed to me that the gun laws were devoutly adhered to.

Some of the drug laws.. I don't know, certainly not so much in Roppongi I hear.

Sword laws... yes, the original weapons ban... ended up in creating the Samuri class... unintended consequences...

I never, ever felt in danger (from crime) wherever I went... including some of the most poor neighborhoods.

However, upon returning the US... crime all around me. Gym locker broken into... accosted on the street... and just the other day someone destroyed the "No Soliciting" sign outside my door...

The US is a violent place (not anywhere near as bad as TJ though...) I know Japanese women (and other Asian women) who openly state they will not travel to a big city on the east coast of the US. Yes, really, though they feel comfortable in coming to California.

409 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:47:35am

re: #405 Sheepdogess

Can't Wait!

The first time I heard Rush was in my car scanning the channels looking for Dennis Prager, who my husband said I had to give a listen. Wow. Ninety seconds with Rush and a big, fat so long to liberalism for me. It's No wonder the left hates him. I was a lefty back then. He changed my life. Whenever I have a liberal or a teen in my car during his show, I serve him up. It's interesting, the kids love him, the adult liberals get nervous, like they are committing adultery.

I fear for his safety.

Wait a minute,

You were a lefty, looking for Dennis Prager on AM radio?

410 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:48:13am

re: #407 Iron Fist Yeah I'm not sure I like the GAP's they seem to be lower powered more for concealing than home defense.

411 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:49:52am
412 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:49:55am

re: #409 astronmr20

Wait a minute,

You were a lefty, looking for Dennis Prager on AM radio?

Sounds like the hubby was a righty and try to turn her from the darkside.

413 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:50:45am

re: #408 freetoken

Sword laws... yes, the original weapons ban... ended up in creating the Samuri class... unintended consequences...

Actually that sword ban during the Meiji revolution was done to end the Samurai class since it was a symbol of the Power of the Old dynasty.

414 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:52:41am

re: #401 astronmr20

He is, by definition, a private citizen. Obama also has the right to say what he wants about him. My point is simply that using the presidential bully pulpit to call out a singular person in the press- is very un-presidential.

And, it smacks of bullying.

Who is not a private citizen? An elected/appointed official?

415 tappin52  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:53:05am

re: #405 Sheepdogess

My husband was driving out of town with a closed-minded, hugely liberal friend. My husband turned on the radio to listen to Rush, already in progress. After a short time, his friend commented, "This guy's pretty good. Who is it?" He was stunned when he found out it was Rush, but he was not swayed. Even though he agreed with what was said, it was like he automatically shut down his critical thought and got back in the liberal line.

416 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:53:39am

re: #414 MandyManners

And, it smacks of bullying.

Who is not a private citizen? An elected/appointed official?

Exactly.

417 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:55:31am
418 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:55:33am

re: #416 astronmr20 Technically any Public figure whether elected or celebrity no longer qualifies as a Private citizen if I remember right. So as a celebrity Rush may not be concidered as a private citizen.

419 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:57:13am

Oh, good grief. The sun is barely up yet the gun range a few miles away is already busy.

420 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:57:30am

re: #418 Rustler

Technically any Public figure whether elected or celebrity no longer qualifies as a Private citizen if I remember right. So as a celebrity Rush may not be concidered as a private citizen.


I'm not sure where you are getting that definition.

Private citizen:

a citizen who does not hold any official or public position

421 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:58:58am

re: #418 Rustler

Technically any Public figure whether elected or celebrity no longer qualifies as a Private citizen if I remember right. So as a celebrity Rush may not be concidered as a private citizen.

That's someting along the lines of how to set the standard of proving libel. It's much easier for a private person than a public figure.

422 winston06  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:59:00am

Good morning from Toronto, Canada.

I just finished watching John Adams tv serie on DVD. Awesome! A must see for every one especially young Americans. Must force students to watch it and write summaries about it. Great show!

423 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 4:59:59am

re: #415 tappin52

My husband was driving out of town with a closed-minded, hugely liberal friend. My husband turned on the radio to listen to Rush, already in progress. After a short time, his friend commented, "This guy's pretty good. Who is it?" He was stunned when he found out it was Rush, but he was not swayed. Even though he agreed with what was said, it was like he automatically shut down his critical thought and got back in the liberal line.

He put his non-thinking hat back on.

424 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:00:25am

re: #419 MandyManners

Oh, good grief. The sun is barely up yet the gun range a few miles away is already busy.

Peeps exercising there rights before 44 takes them away.

425 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:00:41am

re: #420 astronmr20

I'm not sure where you are getting that definition.

Private citizen:

a citizen who does not hold any official or public position

Not to badger you but, what's the source of that definition?

426 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:01:05am
427 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:02:09am

re: #409 astronmr20

Yes. My husband was trying to "fix" me and thought Dennis might be a good place to start, a more gentle voice. I listen to them both, although Rush does get me a bit worked up and that's not a good thing while operating a vehicle.

I am now fully repaired...thanks to three good men ;)

428 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:02:50am

I work in radio, and have for quite some time. A large portion of my career was in News/Talk formats.

This is Christmas morning for Rush. No one could even attempt to give him such a valuable gift:

The most powerful man on planet earth just called him out publicly. He just accomplished what his peers could only dream about.

429 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:03:03am

re: #425 MandyManners

According to Black's Law Dictionary, a public figure is someone who has achieved fame or notoriety or who has voluntarily become involved in a public controversy.

430 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:03:16am
431 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:04:43am

re: #425 MandyManners

Not to badger you but, what's the source of that definition?

All of them.

[Link: dictionary.reference.com...]

[Link: www.wordwebonline.com...]

[Link: www.thefreedictionary.com...]

432 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:06:02am

re: #427 Sheepdogess

Yes. My husband was trying to "fix" me and thought Dennis might be a good place to start, a more gentle voice. I listen to them both, although Rush does get me a bit worked up and that's not a good thing while operating a vehicle.

I am now fully repaired...thanks to three good men ;)

When was this, if I may ask?

I have been working on de-programming my fiancee for some time. Talk radio is likely the next step.

433 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:06:11am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
Does Rush know you folks are talking about him?

434 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:06:15am

re: #428 astronmr20

I work in radio, and have for quite some time. A large portion of my career was in News/Talk formats.

This is Christmas morning for Rush. No one could even attempt to give him such a valuable gift:

The most powerful man on planet earth just called him out publicly. He just accomplished what his peers could only dream about.

I wonder if this isn't the first attack on the First Amendment. CBBHO can point to Rush, et al., and claim that conservative talk radio figures are preventing the country's economy recovering and that they must be silenced for the good of the country or, that they must give air-time on their shows to Democrats.

435 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:06:48am

re: #430 Iron Fist

Sweet dreams!

436 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:07:43am

re: #415 tappin52

Very scary. Did he have a PHD?

437 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:08:00am

re: #431 astronmr20

All of them.

[Link: dictionary.reference.com...]

[Link: www.wordwebonline.com...]

[Link: www.thefreedictionary.com...]

Thanks!

438 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:08:20am

re: #433 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
Does Rush know you folks are talking about him?

Hey 2H whats up?

439 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:08:29am

re: #434 MandyManners

I wonder if this isn't the first attack on the First Amendment. CBBHO can point to Rush, et al., and claim that conservative talk radio figures are preventing the country's economy recovering and that they must be silenced for the good of the country or, that they must give air-time on their shows to Democrats.

Not directly, no. The question is what will 0's plans be for the future- re: fairness doctrine. He has not directly infringed on Rush's 1st amendment rights at all. Even though he's the president, he can certainly call Rush out if he likes.

It just makes him look like a crybaby, and gives Rush instant and enormous credibility as a talk host.

440 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:08:54am

re: #424 Erik The Red

Peeps exercising there rights before 44 takes them away.

But, it's bone-ass cold here! (Don't you tell me you're drinking a Mai Thai by your pool.)

441 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:09:56am

re: #440 MandyManners

But, it's bone-ass cold here! (Don't you tell me you're drinking a Mai Thai by your pool.)

Sorry no Mai Thai by the pool. It is scotch by the pool today.

442 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:10:44am

re: #438 Erik The Red

Hey 2H whats up?

Hey Eric.Nice seeing you..Nothing or nobody is up here..except for me..
not to cold out...

443 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:10:54am

...even tyrants with nuclear weapons don't always get called out by name by presidents. Rush did it with just words.


This might be an interesting 4 years after.

444 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:10:56am

re: #439 astronmr20

Not directly, no. The question is what will 0's plans be for the future- re: fairness doctrine. He has not directly infringed on Rush's 1st amendment rights at all. Even though he's the president, he can certainly call Rush out if he likes.

It just makes him look like a crybaby, and gives Rush instant and enormous credibility as a talk host.

I think he could be preparing the ground for the FD. The Democrats desperately want it instituted.

Has CBBHO ever said anything about it?

445 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:11:05am

all.

446 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:11:45am

Morning Lizards


Monday at noon (EST anyways) I can guess where everyone will be.

Ought to be a fine show- lol

447 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:12:10am

re: #444 MandyManners

I think he could be preparing the ground for the FD. The Democrats desperately want it instituted.

Has CBBHO ever said anything about it?

That's a good question! I know some of his buddies have,

But Obama may realize the political backlash that could descend upon him if it happens. Let's hope he does realize that.

448 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:12:12am

re: #441 Erik The Red

Sorry no Mai Thai by the pool. It is scotch by the pool today.

*whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack
whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack
whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack
whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack*

449 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:12:29am

re: #446 summergurl

Morning Lizards

Monday at noon (EST anyways) I can guess where everyone will be.

Ought to be a fine show- lol

indeed.

450 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:12:40am

re: #443 astronmr20

...even tyrants with nuclear weapons don't always get called out by name by presidents. Rush did it with just words.


This might be an interesting 4 years after.


He calls out Rush but wants to send a special envoy to DinnerJacket?

451 tappin52  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:13:11am

re: #436 Sheepdogess

No. But he is a philatelist who runs a company with world wide business.

452 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:13:44am

Eric: what kind of scotch..how hot is it there?
might as go all out to make me jealous ...

453 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:14:16am

re: #446 summergurl

Morning Lizards

Monday at noon (EST anyways) I can guess where everyone will be.

Ought to be a fine show- lol

Morning gurl. I take it you were so excited to catch an open that you spelled you nic wrong.

454 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:14:17am

re: #447 astronmr20

That's a good question! I know some of his buddies have,

But Obama may realize the political backlash that could descend upon him if it happens. Let's hope he does realize that.

I hope he does. Would it be better (for us) if he tries it now or waits until before the mid-term elections or before the next presidential election?

455 winston06  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:14:21am

Going to see Gran Torino movie tonight

456 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:15:12am

This is great. Rush has all weekend to prepare to go to war Monday afternoon. Nothing else on his plate.

I'm telling you, in talk radio, this is one for the history books. Rush should be sending Obama a stocked humidor full of Cuban cigars.

457 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:15:16am

re: #448 MandyManners

*whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack
whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack
whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack
whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack*

Ouch 2M one is enough. LOL

458 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:16:33am

re: #455 winston06

Going to see Gran Torino movie tonight

I want to see that movie..Saw Tropic Thunder last Sat. and laughed my ass off
Great movie

459 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:16:51am

re: #457 Erik The Red

Ouch 2M one is enough. LOL

I don't think you felt it much, though. A good bottle of Laphroaig takes the edge off that sort of pain.

460 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:16:55am

re: #452 HoosierHoops

Eric: what kind of scotch..how hot is it there?
might as go all out to make me jealous ...

Nothing fancy today. 12 year old Bells. Not to hot today low 80's and a little cloud cover with rain coming later this evening.

461 tappin52  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:17:09am

re: #457 Erik The Red

I take it Mandy doesn't like scotch?

462 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:17:26am

re: #457 Erik The Red

Ouch 2M one is enough. LOL

*driveby* Well we are currently experiencing Very cold temps right now. -18° C here in Toronto, and that's before windchill.

/about 0 F with a -20 F windchill.

463 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:17:46am

re: #453 Erik The Red

Nope it was intentional --for about 10 seconds it was "hip"

now I regret it

Thank God I don't have tattoos...

464 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:18:13am

re: #460 Erik The Red

Hit him again Mandy, I don't think he got the message. :)

/white smoke.

465 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:18:15am

re: #426 Iron Fist

Ahh ok I though he was talking about the ban at the end of the Tokugawa shogunate in 1873 I think it was.

466 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:18:47am

re: #455 winston06

Going to see Gran Torino movie tonight

That was a good movie - thoroughly enjoyed it. Have fun

467 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:19:33am

re: #463 summergurl

Nope it was intentional --for about 10 seconds it was "hip"

now I regret it

Thank God I don't have tattoos...

No tramp stamp? whoa..:)
Good morning summergurl

468 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:19:51am

re: #420 astronmr20
Yeah sorry I was looking at it more in the way of civil law. Private citizen-A private citizen is one who does not possess or exercise any authority or power of court, government, law enforcement, or military.

469 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:20:06am

re: #460 Erik The Red

Nothing fancy today. 12 year old Bells. Not to hot today low 80's and a little cloud cover with rain coming later this evening.

*WHACK*

470 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:20:28am

re: #432 astronmr20

It was the Christmas season after the Rodney King riots. 1991

Start with Dennis (he led me to LGF) and be patient. I was always troubled by much of what I was being fed by the MSM and just didn't know where to find an opposing voice. My lightning fast conversion was an anomaly.

Good luck!

471 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:21:46am

re: #467 HoosierHoops

No tramp stamp? whoa..:)
Good morning summergurl


Morning Hoops -

Naw, never did the tattoo or piercing thing. Kinda a wuss.

472 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:22:05am

re: #467 HoosierHoops

No tramp stamp? whoa..:)
Good morning summergurl

I've got 3 on my back. When I met my wife 15 years ago I tried to get her to have a Tramp Stamp. Thank G-d see has more brains then me. I hate those now.

473 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:22:42am

re: #469 MandyManners

*WHACK*

2M I am starting to think you don't like me/

474 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:23:43am

re: #472 Erik The Red

I've got 3 on my back. When I met my wife 15 years ago I tried to get her to have a Tramp Stamp. Thank G-d see has more brains then me. I hate those now.

What I have learned is this -

Never tell your kids "You will not have one of those as long as you are under 18 and live in my house."

Eventually they get older and move out.

475 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:25:04am

re: #454 MandyManners

Perferable he tries it before midterms and it flops and wakes people up to the fact that Obama is taking away their right's so we can begin Operation Clean Sweep by removing from office all these rinos and moonbats congress is infested with.

476 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:25:19am

re: #474 summergurl

What I have learned is this -

Never tell your kids "You will not have one of those as long as you are under 18 and live in my house."

Eventually they get older and move out.

My 2 girls, 9 and 11, are locked in the dungeon until they are 35. After that they go do what ever they want.

477 astronmr20  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:25:25am
478 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:25:55am

re: #461 tappin52
Nah shes just jealous Red has the Sweet weather atm in South Africa.

479 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:26:37am

re: #470 Sheepdogess

It was the Christmas season after the Rodney King riots. 1991

Start with Dennis (he led me to LGF) and be patient. I was always troubled by much of what I was being fed by the MSM and just didn't know where to find an opposing voice. My lightning fast conversion was an anomaly.

Good luck!

Same here about the Israeli-Arab conflicts. I've always been predisposed to Israel, and that was cemented when I took a class in college about the conflicts that was taught by a Jewish professor. He did an expert job in laying out the facts about the founding of Israel, especially those about the Arab leadership (the Haj and his clan v. the Nashashibbis) during that time.

A buddy on a divorce forum finally turned me on to LGF and let me know one fateful day when registration was open. One of my first tasks here was to learn more about the Haj.

480 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:27:12am

re: #475 Rustler

Perferable he tries it before midterms and it flops and wakes people up to the fact that Obama is taking away their right's so we can begin Operation Clean Sweep by removing from office all these rinos and moonbats congress is infested with.

Operation Clean Sweep. I like it.

481 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:27:18am
482 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:27:21am

re: #468 Rustler
The definition at the end isn't the Civil litigation one, but rather a more involved one than the one of free dictionary.

483 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:27:38am

Good morning from the Mojave, Lizards!

Looking at the headlines I get a feeling that 0 is heading for an early, epic meltdown.

484 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:27:45am

re: #474 summergurl

What I have learned is this -

Never tell your kids "You will not have one of those as long as you are under 18 and live in my house."

Eventually they get older and move out.

When our 16 yr old goes to College we have the house all to ourselves..
Remember the movie failure to launch?
Maybe I'll have a naked room also LOL

485 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:27:57am

re: #475 Rustler

Perferable he tries it before midterms and it flops and wakes people up to the fact that Obama is taking away their right's so we can begin Operation Clean Sweep by removing from office all these rinos and moonbats congress is infested with.

The fact that there are two years before that might possibly happen is what is scary - alot can happen in two years that would be difficult if not impossible to be undone.

486 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:27:58am

re: #478 Rustler

Nah shes just jealous Red has the Sweet weather atm in South Africa.

Always have "sweet" weather here. Avg. mean temp. about 70's-80's

487 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:28:46am
"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done"

Not a threat to Rush or even a criticism, IMO
It was clearly a call to action directed at Reps i.e. stop talking and start doing.
It was also a great compliment to Rush by acknowledging him as a Rep spokesperson and icon.

488 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:28:55am

re: #479 MandyManners

And you have never looked back 2M.

489 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:29:02am

re: #484 HoosierHoops

Just wish the wife believed in post-marital sex.

490 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:29:03am

re: #482 Rustler

The definition at the end isn't the Civil litigation one, but rather a more involved one than the one of free dictionary.

Coming at it with my background as a reporter and a paralegal, my inclination is to look at the subject through those perspectives.

491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:29:40am

re: #487 Spare O'Lake

I am in agreeance.

492 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:30:11am

re: #481 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"I got better."

Welcome to my world FVB. Morning btw

493 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:30:32am

re: #476 Erik The Red

My 2 girls, 9 and 11, are locked in the dungeon until they are 35. After that they go do what ever they want.

Good luck with that -


One of our daughters got her Master's degree in Public Administration. But she has to wear long sleeves due to her ahhh indiscretion with a tattoo parlor. She came close once admitting she had made a mistake but when she saw me intently listening, she stopped talking.

///Like I would say I told you so.

494 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:30:36am

re: #483 SurferDoc

Good morning from the Mojave, Lizards!

Looking at the headlines I get a feeling that 0 is heading for an early, epic meltdown.

Have you ever seen the YouTube clip of a German teen who goes on a humongous tirade when his computer screws up?

495 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:31:03am

re: #483 SurferDoc

Good morning from the Mojave, Lizards!

Looking at the headlines I get a feeling that 0 is heading for an early, epic meltdown.

Morning Doc. You wearing pants/shorts today?

496 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:31:08am

re: #492 Erik The Red

You in Africa? Are you impressed with my ability to ask a pretty broad question?

497 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:31:39am

re: #488 Erik The Red

And you have never looked back 2M.

Considering I useta' be a Communist, it's been a radical change.

498 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:31:47am

re: #484 HoosierHoops

When our 16 yr old goes to College we have the house all to ourselves..
Remember the movie failure to launch?
Maybe I'll have a naked room also LOL

I want one of those

499 songbird  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:31:54am

Good morning, Lizard Nation!
The haven of sanity against the rising Hopenchange!

500 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:31:55am

re: #484 HoosierHoops

When our 16 yr old goes to College we have the house all to ourselves..
Remember the movie failure to launch?
Maybe I'll have a naked room also LOL


I will say hubby has gotten a little lax with the dress code around here since the last one moved out.

501 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:32:26am

re: #481 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"I got better."

Good Morning Veggie! Hey if that dude could turn into a goat why not T-Rex?
At least the cops couldn't have arrested him and paraded him around town..

502 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:33:05am

re: #490 MandyManners
Yeah when they first referenced Rush as a private citizen first thing I was thinking was Public Figure. But they way it was used subsequentially The more lenthy definition I found on WIKI answers seemed to fit the bill of what was trying to be definition being used.

503 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:33:25am

Hi, Mandy! Yeah, that clip is a favorite of mine. I can almost see the 0 doing that. Wait until he gets "tough" questions in a Press Conference...

504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:34:02am

re: #497 MandyManners

I refuse to call you "2M". I will call you Mandy. "2M" makes me think of "3M". "3M" makes me think of Minnesota. Minnesota makes me think of Al Franken.

Do not want to connect you to Al Franken.

505 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:34:27am

re: #389 Rustler

Make sure when you get your ammo for your Home defense 1911 you buy with Winchester Ranger SXT get teh box with t9 model number its the newer version in a 185 grain best expansion of the set the 180 grains don't expand as well due to lower muzzle velocity. Another Good altrernative is Federal EFMJ in a 180 grain +p round. Pretty sure the +P+ are Law enforcement only.

If your buying or have a 1911 in .45cal, there is absolutely no reason to use any +p rated ammo, period. In fact, any use of +p is probably violating any warranty as I can't thing of a builder of 1911's who makes weapon rated for +p with most manufacturer's advising against its use. Additionally, if you do use the +p ammo your probably going to find you have timing issues(FTF's), ejection issues and possibly even magazine issues.

506 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:34:44am

re: #496 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You in Africa? Are you impressed with my ability to ask a pretty broad question?

Durban S Africa. The voodoo people have nothing on the witch doctors here.

507 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:34:47am

re: #495 Erik The Red

Morning Doc. You wearing pants/shorts today?

It's shorts as usual Erik. The enemy takes courage if I wear long pants.

508 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:34:52am

Morning Lizards.
I took a picture out in my backyard and used it for my new Avatar!

509 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:35:14am

re: #499 songbird

Good morning, Lizard Nation!
The haven of sanity against the rising Hopenchange!

Whenever I see that new word, I think of eating Hoppin'-John for dinner on New Year's Day.

510 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:36:06am

re: #472 Erik The Red

You have a smart woman!

re: #474 summergurl

Several years ago set some cash aside for my kids. I told them if they can make it to 26 un-inked the money is theirs to do with whatever they want. So far, so good.

If it works, it will be money well spent.

511 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:36:22am

re: #502 Rustler

Yeah when they first referenced Rush as a private citizen first thing I was thinking was Public Figure. But they way it was used subsequentially The more lenthy definition I found on WIKI answers seemed to fit the bill of what was trying to be definition being used.

He's involved in setting the agenda and discussing policy but, he has no role in actually passing law.

512 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:36:44am

re: #508 monkeytime

Morning Lizards.
I took a picture out in my backyard and used it for my new Avatar!

I see you got your unicorn!

513 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:36:55am

re: #503 SurferDoc

Hi, Mandy! Yeah, that clip is a favorite of mine. I can almost see the 0 doing that. Wait until he gets "tough" questions in a Press Conference...

Narcissistic rage.

514 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:37:17am

re: #504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I refuse to call you "2M". I will call you Mandy. "2M" makes me think of "3M". "3M" makes me think of Minnesota. Minnesota makes me think of Al Franken.

Do not want to connect you to Al Franken.

Hey FVB you just ruined my nic for MM. Thanks/

515 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:37:19am

re: #504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I refuse to call you "2M". I will call you Mandy. "2M" makes me think of "3M". "3M" makes me think of Minnesota. Minnesota makes me think of Al Franken.

Do not want to connect you to Al Franken.

Why, thank you!

516 songbird  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:37:40am

re: #508 monkeytime

Morning Lizards.
I took a picture out in my backyard and used it for my new Avatar!

Darn, you got your magic unicorn before me!

517 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:38:39am

re: #513 MandyManners

Narcissistic rage.

He most likely just get snarky but he will wind up looking like an ass. It iwll be fun watching the lefties try to spin it as a good thing.

518 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:38:40am

re: #508 monkeytime

Morning Lizards.
I took a picture out in my backyard and used it for my new Avatar!

Do the farts really smell like petunias?

519 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:38:52am

re: #508 monkeytime Did you spank your unicorn I see he left a big Rainbow in your yard.

520 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:39:02am

re: #508 monkeytime

Morning Lizards.
I took a picture out in my backyard and used it for my new Avatar!

ROTFLMAO. Can I have some of what ever pills you are taking?

521 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:39:11am

re: #514 Erik The Red

Hey FVB you just ruined my nic for MM. Thanks/

Sorry Erik. First time I saw 2M, my mind immediately went down that path.

522 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:39:18am

re: #499 songbird

Good morning, Lizard Nation!
The haven of sanity against the rising Hopenchange!

Good Morning Songbird...
Hope today finds you well

523 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:40:17am

re: #517 SurferDoc

He most likely just get snarky but he will wind up looking like an ass. It iwll be fun watching the lefties try to spin it as a good thing.

The rage doesn't have to expressed publicly or even violently. He's an intellectual so he might channel it into plotting ways to get even with a particular person or group.

524 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:40:21am

re: #505 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Never had nor really heard about FTF's with the Rangers or the Federal EFMJ and they are widely used by police forces and the Military.

525 freetoken  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:40:28am

re: #426 Iron Fist

Yes, Hideyoshi, who lived/built Osaka Castle, decided to try and control the national temperament by eliminating private citizens (which were nearly all peasants) from owning blades beyond a certain size.

It backfired eventually in that the need to have arms simply became a profession, and of course when the professional swordsmen didn't have work they simply took what they needed from the populace.

Is Japan a safer place today because of what Hideyoshi did? Hmmm... only if you are also willing to accept that there were a couple of centuries of downtrodden peasantry as a result.

By the time of the Meiji Restoration the game had changed, more to do with the West, the coming industrial revolution, etc.

There are many psychopaths in Japan, they just don't have guns to use. They find other ways to act out their violence, knives and strangulations being common.

526 jorline  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:41:08am

Sorry for the early drive by. Blago doesn't know when to shut up.

Blagojevich's lead defense lawyer to resign

Prominent Chicago defense lawyer Ed Genson said Friday he intends to resign as attorney for embattled Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich in the criminal case against the governor.

I never require a client to do what I say but I do require them to at least listen to what I say. ... I wish the governor good luck and godspeed," Genson said in brief remarks to reporters.

Genson was the only ace in Blago's hand...a huge ego and loose tongue will sink anyone.

See you later Lizards.

527 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:41:35am

re: #521 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sorry Erik. First time I saw 2M, my mind immediately went down that path.

Now when eric calls me 2H I'll always think of Hubert Humphry from Minn.

528 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:41:44am

re: #510 Sheepdogess

You have a smart woman!

re: #474 summergurl

Several years ago set some cash aside for my kids. I told them if they can make it to 26 un-inked the money is theirs to do with whatever they want. So far, so good.

If it works, it will be money well spent.

Now you tell me

529 tappin52  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:42:07am

re: #484 HoosierHoops

When our 16 yr old goes to College we have the house all to ourselves..
Remember the movie failure to launch?
Maybe I'll have a naked room also LOL

Just remember this: They come back at very inopportune times...And they keep their keys!

530 songbird  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:42:54am

re: #522 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Songbird...
Hope today finds you well

Good Morning HoosierHoops!
I'm doing well...Just taking a break from packing.
The sooner the house is cleared out, the sooner pictures can be taken so the house will sell.

531 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:43:10am

re: #529 tappin52
They usually show up unannounced with 13 friends 5 minutes after you prepare and enter the naked room.

532 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:44:31am

re: #520 Erik The Red

ROTFLMAO. Can I have some of what ever pills you are taking?

You all can get yours too. It's easy! Just order some "Hope And Change" Kool Aid mix from any liberal organization - I got mine from NPR website - and drink it. Your backyard will look like mine in no time!

533 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:46:05am

re: #523 MandyManners

The rage doesn't have to expressed publicly or even violently. He's an intellectual so he might channel it into plotting ways to get even with a particular person or group.

From what I have seen of him so far, he is too arrogant to bother hiding it. He will show it in public and I don't think we will have very long to wait.

534 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:46:16am

re: #527 HoosierHoops

Now when eric calls me 2H I'll always think of Hubert Humphry from Minn.

But, Humphry was 3H, which makes me think of professional wrestling.

Now if you were HoosierHopenHoops, you'd be 3H which would make me think of Hubert H. Humphry, which would make me think of the Metrodome, which would make me think of Minneapolis, which would make me think of Minnesota, which would make me think of Al Franken.

See how my mind works?

535 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:46:28am

re: #524 Rustler

Never had nor really heard about FTF's with the Rangers or the Federal EFMJ and they are widely used by police forces and the Military.

Are they using them in a 1911 platform in some other platform?

536 bcgirl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:46:35am

Good Morning Lizards,
today I'm a hopen thay my white construction worker step son will be able to keep his job or at least get hired by my half mexican nephew who will now be the foreman and i am sure that my long term unemployed ex husband will be happy that the one is going to force him back to work, so that my poor little grandaughter's father will be out of a job,,oh well maybe my son, who is not gay, but is white, but wants to to to hairdesign school can get a student loan or grant now...NOT... hopenchange we can puke over ;-) ;-) ;-) happy day!

537 tappin52  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:46:55am

re: #531 Rustler
And they want food.

538 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:47:08am

re: #523 MandyManners

Is it really surprising that any mortal human being would start to think that they are above criticism when so many in his country and around the world treat him as if he were the Messiah?

539 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:49:35am

re: #529 tappin52

Just remember this: They come back at very inopportune times...And they keep their keys!

That would be very embarrassing..The thing is..Most of the kids went to college in California..Except for Jordan..He joined the Marines.. My daughter graduated from UC Davis last year..My 16yr old wants to go to college and if he wants me pay for it..He'll have to go to College in Cali.
We are all California Natives that live now in Indiana...All the kids were born in Queen of the Valley Hospital in Napa, Ca.

540 tappin52  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:50:18am

re: #538 Spare O'Lake


What I find amazing is that after the daily verbal beat downs endured by President Bush, this guy thinks that no one would or should do that to him.

541 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:50:20am

re: #527 HoosierHoops

Now when eric calls me 2H I'll always think of Hubert Humphry from Minn.

Yeah go ahead and ruin my nic for you Lizards/

542 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:50:30am

re: #536 bcgirl

Can your son pretend to be gay, tan alot and speak with an accent? He should also think about changing his name to something like
Enrique Sparkles.

543 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:51:50am

re: #537 tappin52
Thats a constant didn't think it warranted saying.

544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:52:07am

re: #541 Erik The Red

Yeah go ahead and ruin my nic for you Lizards/

You. Are. Welcome.

545 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:53:00am

re: #535 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
We used 1911 platforms but I couldn't say if the LE folks were using a 1911 platform.

546 songbird  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:53:15am

re: #542 monkeytime

Can your son pretend to be gay, tan alot and speak with an accent? He should also think about changing his name to something like
Enrique Sparkles.

Just for Men in dark brown or black would be a good idea!

As an aside, when my husband was running for county commissioner in a predominately Hispanic area, he did color his hair dark!

547 bcgirl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:53:22am

That one picture of the ONE with his nose in the air, the really snooty one, that IMO is the most telling of all, the guy really thinks he is The One and therefore above any and all other persons or law, and maybe even g*d himself.

re: #540 tappin52

What I find amazing is that after the daily verbal beat downs endured by President Bush, this guy thinks that no one would or should do that to him.

548 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:53:54am

re: #540 tappin52

What I find amazing is that after the daily verbal beat downs endured by President Bush, this guy thinks that no one would or should do that to him.

He will be brought back down to earth very quickly as soon as he is forced to realize that his magic wand doesn't work very well in the real world.

549 tokyobk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:54:31am

re: #525 freetoken

Great stuff. I can only add 2 things to your excellent survey and conclusions.

1) People who say Japan has a low murder rate (same as the City of Philadelphia) because they don't have guns have absolutely no clue about the culture that (with whatever other issues it may have) has the most crowded and at the same time safest stretches of cityscape in the world. Airguns are legal and please believe me that they get modified all the time and hunters have all kinds of guns.

2) Some nutjob in the 70's wrote a book about early Japanese attempts at banning the gun as a would be proposal regarding nuclear weapons. It was trashed by scholars of Japanese history along the lines you have mentioned, namely it was about control and not a pacifist impulse which is of course a complete joke when considering Japan. Not even going to try to find it to link it but google will work for the curious.

550 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:54:33am

re: #526 jorline

I never require a client to do what I say but I do require them to at least listen to what I say.

I'm no expert but, doesn't that approach violating his client's confidentiality? He's not discussng details about what advice he gave Blagojevich but, it could be surmised by looking at what the governor has said and done.

551 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:54:42am

re: #544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You. Are. Welcome.

Can I call you just BASTARD?

552 bcgirl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:55:26am

good idea, and he can borrow his cousins id and get him a green card too, that will for sure get him a loan,, I just love the name too LOL
re: #542 monkeytime

Can your son pretend to be gay, tan alot and speak with an accent? He should also think about changing his name to something like
Enrique Sparkles.

553 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:55:50am

re: #533 SurferDoc

From what I have seen of him so far, he is too arrogant to bother hiding it. He will show it in public and I don't think we will have very long to wait.

I would say that there are fun times ahead but, CBBHO is trying to destroy this nation. OTOH, it will be fun watching him get thwarted at many turns.

554 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:55:59am

re: #551 Erik The Red

Can I call you just BASTARD?

Oh, you wouldn't be the first. :D (Jolsen)

555 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:57:28am

re: #552 bcgirl

good idea, and he can borrow his cousins id and get him a green card too, that will for sure get him a loan,, I just love the name too LOL

He's got access to a Green Card!?!?!?! Green Card = GOLD CARD!

556 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:57:36am

re: #538 Spare O'Lake

Is it really surprising that any mortal human being would start to think that they are above criticism when so many in his country and around the world treat him as if he were the Messiah?

He became a narcissist a long, long time ago. The seeds of that--like other personality disorders--are sewn in young children.

557 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:57:37am

re: #546 songbird

Just for Men in dark brown or black would be a good idea!

As an aside, when my husband was running for county commissioner in a predominately Hispanic area, he did color his hair dark!

You always have to be prepared for a son coming home one day and saying ' Doesn't this make me look FABULOUS?' LOL
The Boys like girls and the girls like boys..whew! Not that there is anything wrong with being gay...But we want lots of grandkids to spoil.

558 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:58:19am

re: #553 MandyManners

I would say that there are fun times ahead but, CBBHO is trying to destroy this nation. OTOH, it will be fun watching him get thwarted at many turns.

I guess we stock up on popcorn and bullets then.

559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:58:22am

The tool box is over Kazakhstan. Still traveling at about 5 miles per second.

560 bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:58:28am

re: #553 MandyManners

I would say that there are fun times ahead but, CBBHO is trying to destroy this nation. OTOH, it will be fun watching him get thwarted at many turns.

Not to mention Biden's tantrums which we KNOW are coming as well.

561 3 wood  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:58:31am

So much for bipartisanship from the new President:
PREZ ZINGS GOP FOE IN A $TIMULATING TALK

WASHINGTON -- President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

One White House official confirmed the comment but said he was simply trying to make a larger point about bipartisan efforts.


It is becoming very clear that his President thinks the term "bipartisan" means that the Republicans roll over and support everything he wants to give him political cover.

That wasn't Obama's only jab at Republicans today.

In an exchange with Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) about the proposal, the president shot back: "I won," according to aides briefed on the meeting.

"I will trump you on that."

Not that Obama was gloating. He was just explaining that he aims to get his way on stimulus package and all other legislation, sources said, noting his unrivaled one-party control of both congressional chambers.

Can we stop giving him the benefit of the doubt yet?

562 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:58:35am

re: #547 bcgirl

That one picture of the ONE with his nose in the air, the really snooty one, that IMO is the most telling of all, the guy really thinks he is The One and therefore above any and all other persons or law, and maybe even g*d himself.

He looks as if he's smelling something unpleasant.

563 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:58:36am

re: #550 MandyManners Nah he's just coming out and saying publically why he left instead of letting a big scandel erupt over it.

564 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:59:16am

Sorry songbird..quoted the wrong poster

565 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:59:24am

re: #558 SurferDoc

I guess we stock up on popcorn and bullets then.

Ernest T Bass just bought a Brick Yard...:)

566 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:59:47am

re: #557 HoosierHoops

You always have to be prepared for a son coming home one day and saying ' Doesn't this make me look FABULOUS?' LOL
The Boys like girls and the girls like boys..whew! Not that there is anything wrong with being gay...But we want lots of grandkids to spoil.

NP in today's world. They can adopt a baby from Africa.

567 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:59:48am

re: #553 MandyManners
It will be fun to watch the thwarting but not so fun to watch his initiatives rolling thru without opposition.

568 songbird  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 5:59:57am

re: #557 HoosierHoops

You always have to be prepared for a son coming home one day and saying ' Doesn't this make me look FABULOUS?' LOL
The Boys like girls and the girls like boys..whew! Not that there is anything wrong with being gay...But we want lots of grandkids to spoil.

Will be giving them a good example with the naked room!

569 tappin52  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:00:01am

re: #559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The tool box is over Kazakhstan. Still traveling at about 5 miles per second.

I didn't realize they were still tracking that thing. Are they going to watch it til it burns up in the atmosphere?

570 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:00:26am

re: #558 SurferDoc

I guess we stock up on popcorn and bullets then.

And ink cartridges for our printers so that we can pass out what we read on-line to folks who don't have access to the Internet.

571 songbird  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:00:26am

re: #564 HoosierHoops

Sorry songbird..quoted the wrong poster

I replied to it too! Whew!

572 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:00:37am

This thread is being brought to you by the number .45 and the year 1911.

573 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:01:05am

re: #560 bloodnok

Not to mention Biden's tantrums which we KNOW are coming as well.

I've not heard about Jivin' Joe's temper.

574 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:01:39am

bbl. Gotta feed the vultures. Ribs and wings.

575 bcgirl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:01:47am

mandy what is CB for ? i know the rest
re: #553 MandyManners

I would say that there are fun times ahead but, CBBHO is trying to destroy this nation. OTOH, it will be fun watching him get thwarted at many turns.

576 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:01:50am

re: #569 tappin52

Don't know, I still have it bookmarked, clicked it. There it is. Now it's over Mongolia.

"STUPID MONGORIANS!"
-South Park

577 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:01:53am

re: #570 MandyManners

And ink cartridges for our printers so that we can pass out what we read on-line to folks who don't have access to the Internet.

If it comes to that, we are going to definitely need the bullets and have little time for the popcorn!

578 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:02:59am

re: #561 3 wood

So much for bipartisanship from the new President:
PREZ ZINGS GOP FOE IN A $TIMULATING TALK


Can we stop giving him the benefit of the doubt yet?

I stopped giving him the benefit of the doubt not long after I started learning about him and his background. I know a Commie when I see one.

579 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:03:28am

re: #575 bcgirl
Commie Bastard.

580 bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:04:03am

re: #573 MandyManners

I've not heard about Jivin' Joe's temper.

It's not so much his temper as it is his tendency to "get pissy". His "I bet I have a higher IQ than you do" moments.

581 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:04:08am

re: #570 MandyManners

And ink cartridges for our printers so that we can pass out what we read on-line to folks who don't have access to the Internet.

Yes. All the soon to be out of work white male construction workers will have to be kept up to date! We could start a charity to help them but I doubt it would get tax exempt status.

582 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:04:11am

re: #563 Rustler

Nah he's just coming out and saying publically why he left instead of letting a big scandel erupt over it.

I still think the thing to do would have been just to announce that he disengaged because of differences of opinion/strategy.

583 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:04:33am

re: #565 Dustyvet

Ernest T Bass just bought a Brick Yard...:)

*mad cackle*

584 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:05:15am

re: #567 Rustler

It will be fun to watch the thwarting but not so fun to watch his initiatives rolling thru without opposition.

That's why we need to keep on his ass, and on the asses of our elected Republicans.

585 bcgirl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:05:40am

green card = gold card! weeelll now that is how they had all those presents under the tree this year and we had s**t--- i am chaning my name to Consuelo Maria Sparkles, mother of the famous Enrique Sparkles, and i want my Obama gold visa card!,

re: #555 monkeytime

He's got access to a Green Card!?!?!?! Green Card = GOLD CARD!

586 tappin52  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:05:52am

Well folks, I have to go clean my house. I like it neat and after a week of watching my 3 y.o. granddaughter it is anything but neat.

587 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:06:05am

re: #575 bcgirl

mandy what is CB for ? i know the rest

CommieBastard. (The "bastard" is not a reference to his birth but, to his character.)

588 KarenWI  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:06:11am

Maybe I'm just too skeptical now... but is it just me, or does someone else think there was a "pay for play" going on in NY for Clinton's seat just like in IL for Obama's? I mean, whether it's Kennedy or the final pick, we're talking people who have political families and money... I'm not criticizing his pick - but am wondering if there was something going on behind the scenes that both ladies (Kennedy and Gillibrand) are from big political families:
http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/558592.html

589 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:07:14am

re: #584 MandyManners

That's why we need to keep on his ass, and on the asses of our elected Republicans.


I think the "asses of our elected Republicans" are now referred to in the White House as "the bitches".

590 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:07:23am

re: #577 SurferDoc

If it comes to that, we are going to definitely need the bullets and have little time for the popcorn!

I already do pass on hard copies of articles I read on the Internet.

591 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:08:03am

re: #580 bloodnok

It's not so much his temper as it is his tendency to "get pissy". His "I bet I have a higher IQ than you do" moments.

Prima Donna!

592 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:08:33am

Later all shift over relief here.

593 Taqiyyotomist  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:09:10am

My beef with VB, basically. Since it's an open thread,
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

594 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:09:25am

re: #585 bcgirl

green card = gold card! weeelll now that is how they had all those presents under the tree this year and we had s**t--- i am chaning my name to Consuelo Maria Sparkles, mother of the famous Enrique Sparkles, and i want my Obama gold visa card!,

Now your drinking the Kool Aid! Do you see your unicorn yet?

595 Rustler  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:09:37am

re: #588 KarenWI
Well they did say Caroline's Senate bid was regected : P

596 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:09:56am

re: #581 monkeytime

Yes. All the soon to be out of work white male construction workers will have to be kept up to date! We could start a charity to help them but I doubt it would get tax exempt status.

I hope Reich's ignorant opinion gets shot down in flames.

597 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:10:02am

Obama the CIC:


[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com...]

598 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:10:32am

re: #589 monkeytime

I think the "asses of our elected Republicans" are now referred to in the White House as "the bitches".

We need to turn them into our bitches.

599 songbird  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:10:57am

I've got to keep packing. Hope to hire some sons of friends with a big truck to start moving some furniture today.

Have a great day, everyone!

600 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:11:06am

re: #590 MandyManners

I already do pass on hard copies of articles I read on the Internet.

I got a "Samizdat" picture in my head when you mentioned stocking up on printer cartridges...

601 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:11:08am

re: #598 MandyManners

We need to turn them into our bitches.

You have a wonderful way with words...:)

602 Taqiyyotomist  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:11:12am

Jamaat? What jamaat? There is no Jamaat.
THANKS VB. We have to ignore it now.

603 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:11:32am

re: #533 SurferDoc

From what I have seen of him so far, he is too arrogant to bother hiding it. He will show it in public and I don't think we will have very long to wait.


First press conference he will come across as condescending and the press will turn on him.

604 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:11:44am

Obama breaks his cherry.

He has now killed his first 17 people as President!

I await the cries of "MURDERER!1!1!"

605 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:12:25am

I see that justiceforall is back and shot straight to the bottom with 65 down-dings. Keep it up, pinhead!

606 vagabond trader  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:12:37am

re: #602 Taqiyyotomist

Let's HOPE they don't start in on our potus. I'd hate to have to let up on that.

607 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:12:43am

re: #600 SurferDoc

I got a "Samizdat" picture in my head when you mentioned stocking up on printer cartridges...

Pardon?

608 vagabond trader  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:13:02am

re: #605 MandyManners

Where may I contribute?

609 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:13:03am

re: #601 Dustyvet

You have a wonderful way with words...:)

I don't know where it comes from.

610 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:13:48am

re: #608 vagabond trader

Where may I contribute?

At the top, on the left, under Bottom Comments.

611 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:14:04am

re: #603 summergurl

First press conference he will come across as condescending and the press will turn on him.

That is what I see happening, too. Perhaps not that fast--but soon.

612 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:14:09am

re: #609 MandyManners

I don't know where it comes from.

Me neither, just carry on...it's great...:)

613 Taqiyyotomist  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:14:14am

re: #606 vagabond trader

LOL you mean VB? Oh that would be rich. Nope, we can't talk about x, y, z aspects of our president now, since those are VB concerns as well.

Good frikkin grief. Watch that be next.

614 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:14:16am

While there are notably some, the 1911 is not used by the majority of PD's. Most prefer and issue double vs. single-action weapons.

But my point is this, the .45/1911 was made to be slow and heavy with all its lovely dropping power. If it ain't broke, don't fix it cause there is a good chance you will break-it. ;)

615 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:14:45am

re: #607 MandyManners

Pardon?

That we would be having to go "underground" to get the word out.

616 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:14:52am

re: #605 MandyManners

I see that justiceforall is back and shot straight to the bottom with 65 down-dings. Keep it up, pinhead!

Where?

617 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:14:58am

re: #605 MandyManners

I see that justiceforall is back and shot straight to the bottom with 65 down-dings. Keep it up, pinhead!

A karma rating of -771.

618 jelo  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:15:43am

afterburner w/ bill whittle

if you have not already seen it.

619 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:15:51am

re: #611 SurferDoc

That is what I see happening, too. Perhaps not that fast--but soon.

I think they will turn on him eventually also because the press is as narcissistic as he is.

620 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:16:09am

re: #615 SurferDoc

That we would be having to go "underground" to get the word out.

We're no where near that point.

621 vagabond trader  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:16:22am

re: #610 MandyManners

Oh, already did my duty on that one. Maybe the -65 will keep it away for a bit.

622 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:16:29am

re: #616 Erik The Red

Where?

Under Bottom Comments.

623 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:16:41am

re: #562 MandyManners

He looks as if he's smelling something unpleasant.


well its not his own poop - because it doesn't smell

624 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:16:56am

re: #619 monkeytime

I think they will turn on him eventually also because the press is as narcissistic as he is.

...and they think that since they made him, they own him.

625 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:17:17am

re: #621 vagabond trader

Oh, already did my duty on that one. Maybe the -65 will keep it away for a bit.

Nah. It seems to enjoy being kicked around.

626 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:17:29am

I worked for a while at a Wal-Mart store, selling sporting goods. As an employee of Wal-Mart you are sometimes required to make store-wide pages, e.g.,"I have a customer in hardware who needs assistance at the paint counter."

One night a tentative female voice came over the intercom system with the (I kid you not) following message:

"I have a customer by the balls in toys who needs assistance."

627 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:18:19am

re: #623 summergurl

well its not his own poop - because it doesn't smell

It's the unwashed masses who just cannot appreciate how spayshul he is and, it's the unwashed masses who can appreciate him but who are still unwashed.

628 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:18:42am

re: #556 MandyManners

He became a narcissist a long, long time ago. The seeds of that--like other personality disorders--are sewn in young children.

I don't disagree with you. But I think most of us carry within us the seeds of our own destruction. In Obama's case, those seeds have been fertilized and watered into full-blown whackiness by the adulation of a sick society which itself seems to crave a political saviour.
It is this combination of a messianic leader and a submissive electorate which has brought him to power and which is so scary to those who have not been taken in.

629 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:19:41am

re: #628 Spare O'Lake

I don't disagree with you. But I think most of us carry within us the seeds of our own destruction. In Obama's case, those seeds have been fertilized and watered into full-blown whackiness by the adulation of a sick society which itself seems to crave a political saviour.
It is this combination of a messianic leader and a submissive electorate which has brought him to power and which is so scary to those who have not been taken in.

Hubris has been the downfall of many.

630 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:19:56am

re: #624 SurferDoc

...and they think that since they made him, they own him.


Fools. They remind me of all the kids in Pinochhio sitting around yukin it up playing pool and smoking cigars until they all start sprouting donkey tails.

631 bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:20:19am

re: #627 MandyManners

It's the unwashed masses who just cannot appreciate how spayshul he is and, it's the unwashed masses who can appreciate him but who are still unwashed.

I need a shower. BBL.

632 3 wood  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:20:20am

Here's a stunner.

Now President B. Hussein Obama wants even more money spent:
Report: Obama May Add to Bailout Funds

As Obama continues to work on a separate $825 billion stimulus package, some in Congress are pushing the president to quickly name a funding amount.

"It seems to me there are inadequate resources to deal with housing, deal with the financial sector and to give an immediate lift" to the ailing economy, Sen. Kent Conrad, chairman of the Senate Budget Committee told the Post. "The last thing I want is to come back here in five months and have another big package. I'd rather do it now."

Economists say that Obama's pledge to use at least $50 billion of the rescue funds to help borrowers avoid home foreclosures could realistically cost $250 billion.

Congressional aides told the Post the administration had not yet decided how to spend the remaining $350 billion of the bailout package or whether or not they will ask for additional funds.

This is becoming an outright spending binge that is going to spin out of control.

I hope those voters who stayed home to teach the conservatives a lesson enjoy the ride.

633 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:20:24am

re: #626 Dustyvet

I worked for a while at a Wal-Mart store, selling sporting goods. As an employee of Wal-Mart you are sometimes required to make store-wide pages, e.g.,"I have a customer in hardware who needs assistance at the paint counter."

One night a tentative female voice came over the intercom system with the (I kid you not) following message:

"I have a customer by the balls in toys who needs assistance."

What was the fall-out?

634 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:20:55am

re: #631 bloodnok

I need a shower. BBL.

HA!

635 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:21:47am

re: #625 MandyManners

Nah. It seems to enjoy being kicked around.

Done my bit for humanity. Ribs done going to eat. See you all "Just Now"

636 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:22:26am

Good morning y'all, from a moderate (52 degrees but getting colder during the day) overcast with heavy rains predicted, Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

637 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:22:30am

re: #623 summergurl

well its not his own poop - because it doesn't smell

Yes it does. He just blames it on the Unicorns.

638 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:22:38am

re: #630 monkeytime

Fools. They remind me of all the kids in Pinochhio sitting around yukin it up playing pool and smoking cigars until they all start sprouting donkey tails.

Wow! That memory goes back a long way! When did you last see that film?

639 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:23:38am

re: #636 realwest

Good morning y'all, from a moderate (52 degrees but getting colder during the day) overcast with heavy rains predicted, Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Hi, RW. Doing fine here in the Mojave! How are you?

640 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:24:12am

re: #626 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty! Good morning and when you can, please check your e-mail!

641 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:24:19am

re: #632 3 wood

Here's a stunner.

Now President B. Hussein Obama wants even more money spent:
Report: Obama May Add to Bailout Funds


This is becoming an outright spending binge that is going to spin out of control.

I hope those voters who stayed home to teach the conservatives a lesson enjoy the ride.

My way of saying that is: I hope all who didn't vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough are fucking happy now.

642 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:24:49am

re: #638 SurferDoc

Wow! That memory goes back a long way! When did you last see that film?

Gosh - I was a little kid - must have been 10 years ago.

:>) heh.

643 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:25:53am

re: #639 SurferDoc
Hey SurferDoc, doing just fine, how are you doing and good Lord what are you doing up so early this morning?
Please don't tell me y'all gotta work today?!

644 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:25:59am

re: #642 monkeytime

Gosh - I was a little kid - must have been 10 years ago.

:>) heh.

*cough*58*cough*

645 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:26:00am

re: #636 realwest

Good morning y'all, from a moderate (52 degrees but getting colder during the day) overcast with heavy rains predicted, Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Good Morning Realwest! Hope today finds you well..

646 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:28:23am

re: #645 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops - yup, I'm doing ok - just exhausted cause a friend of mine had me up until around 3:30AM this morning!
How are you doing?

647 mcainiac  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:28:49am

Hello everyone. Well I just have to say how it helps so much being a lizard (very junior one!) with all that is on the TV NEWS. I think Im saying that OK we knew OHB was winning, but having him in your face is a whole other thing. My other is a lib with lib friends so this is my sanity. Thank You!

648 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:29:00am

re: #643 realwest

Hey SurferDoc, doing just fine, how are you doing and good Lord what are you doing up so early this morning?
Please don't tell me y'all gotta work today?!

I woke up at five with no prospects of falling back asleep. It was easier to just get up and make coffee.

No work but I will be heading out for a some four-wheeling later today.

649 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:29:23am

re: #640 realwest

Hey Dusty! Good morning and when you can, please check your e-mail!

I just did, and sent a reply...And Good Morning...:)

650 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:29:37am

Morning all!

Hey Real, Hoosier, Scottish (if you are around), 3 Wood, Mandy, SurferDoc, NeverGiveUp (if you are not giving root canals to pay for your mistress)

How is everyone?

Woke up to 9 degrees this morning (party's over)...

I'm in pretty good shape now, but have to work all day on my feet, so I'll be a mess by tonight.

651 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:29:50am

re: #641 MandyManners

My way of saying that is: I hope all who didn't vote for McCain because he wasn't conservative enough are fucking happy now.

Everyone I know voted for him. We may have held our nose doing so but the other option was unacceptable. Now look where we are.

And I like the "make them our bitches" comment MM.. we should find out whose term is up in 2010 and start writing, calling, emailing now.

652 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:29:59am

re: #632 3 wood
Good morning my friend! "I hope those voters who stayed home to teach the conservatives a lesson enjoy the ride.".
What Mandy said in #641!

653 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:30:52am

re: #650 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning all!

Hey Real, Hoosier, Scottish (if you are around), 3 Wood, Mandy, SurferDoc, NeverGiveUp (if you are not giving root canals to pay for your mistress)

How is everyone?

Woke up to 9 degrees this morning (party's over)...

I'm in pretty good shape now, but have to work all day on my feet, so I'll be a mess by tonight.

LT, the jeep won't start...:)

654 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:31:04am

Good morning, LT.

655 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:31:11am

re: #649 Dustyvet
Thanks Dusty, I'll check for it in a minute!

656 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:31:18am

re: #649 Dustyvet

Oh, and Morning Dusty, too.

I knew I forgot someone... like FBV and Buzz... gretting everyone is hard.

/How'd the VA thing turn out?

657 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:31:48am

re: #647 mcainiac

Hello everyone. Well I just have to say how it helps so much being a lizard (very junior one!) with all that is on the TV NEWS. I think Im saying that OK we knew OHB was winning, but having him in your face is a whole other thing. My other is a lib with lib friends so this is my sanity. Thank You!

Hi, and welcome to the Island of Sanity!

658 3 wood  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:31:55am

re: #646 realwest

Hi ya Hoops - yup, I'm doing ok - just exhausted cause a friend of mine had me up until around 3:30AM this morning!
How are you doing?

Hi real, I hope you get some rest. You need to take care of your health, my friend.

659 summergurl  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:31:56am

re: #646 realwest

Hi ya Hoops - yup, I'm doing ok - just exhausted cause a friend of mine had me up until around 3:30AM this morning!
How are you doing?

Stop bragging you Stud you...

660 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:31:57am

re: #655 realwest

Thanks Dusty, I'll check for it in a minute!

Oley dokey, that one is a wee short...on the phone...:(

661 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:32:27am

re: #650 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT! Uh, what do you mean you have to work all day on your feet - do you mean work standing up a lot or spend the day working on your feet?

662 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:32:43am

re: #653 Dustyvet

LT, the jeep won't start...:)

The only time I ever had one was as a Mortar PL.

/It was pretty slick to be able to ride and not walk for a change...

663 3 wood  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:32:57am

Gotta go run some errands.

We have 2 degrees of global warming here now. Ugh.

664 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:33:25am

re: #656 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Oh, and Morning Dusty, too.

I knew I forgot someone... like FBV and Buzz... gretting everyone is hard.

/How'd the VA thing turn out?

VA is playing games again, more delays and stalling.

665 Lincolntf  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:33:28am

Good Morning, all. Alas Herm, we hardly knew ye...

I have two friends who are rabid KC fans (bizarre, I know). They are both overjoyed.

666 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:33:45am

re: #479 MandyManners

Same here about the Israeli-Arab conflicts. I've always been predisposed to Israel, and that was cemented when I took a class in college about the conflicts that was taught by a Jewish professor.

I was pretty ignorant about the Israeli-Arab conflicts until I came here.
When I was teenager, during the Vietnam war, I was having a conversation with my dad about the communists. I remember like it was yesterday, him saying, "we have a lot more to worry about than the communists. The religious fanatics from the middle east are a far greater threat". He never used the word islam. I had no clue what he was talking about back then. We was a man of few words. It seems we were both right. My dad was a devout catholic and a supporter of Israel to the end of his life.

I have an "I Support Israel" button on my purse. Some days I get a thank you and some days I get a f*** you. It's always interesting here in the Peoples Republik of PS.

667 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:33:50am

re: #656 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) LOL! It's even harder greeting everyone!

668 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:34:01am

re: #646 realwest

Hi ya Hoops - yup, I'm doing ok - just exhausted cause a friend of mine had me up until around 3:30AM this morning!
How are you doing?

Watching a movie on Shotime..Copying Beethoven..a 2006 movie that is really good...My favorite scene is where Diana Krugers boyfriend has a model of a bridge he wants to build and Beethoven bust it up with his cain screaming it has no soul..
The dude yells how can you do that?
Beethoven says God whispers in some men's ears..But he screams in mine!

669 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:34:20am

re: #660 Dustyvet

Oley dokey, that one is a wee short...:(

that's what she said.

670 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:34:52am

re: #661 realwest

Hey LT! Uh, what do you mean you have to work all day on your feet - do you mean work standing up a lot or spend the day working on your feet?

LOL... tricky old Law Prof...

Standing up...I'd rather sit, but if I did that my hips would stop functioning after a half hour. Can't do it laying down, but that would be the way to save myself later.

671 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:34:57am

re: #651 summergurl

Everyone I know voted for him. We may have held our nose doing so but the other option was unacceptable. Now look where we are.

And I like the "make them our bitches" comment MM.. we should find out whose term is up in 2010 and start writing, calling, emailing now.

Call 'em all no matter when their next election is.

672 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:35:22am

re: #667 realwest

LOL! It's even harder greeting everyone!

Not going to say a word...:) No, no, no...:) bad Dusty, Bad Dusty...laying down by dish...:)

673 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:36:09am

re: #658 3 wood
Yeah, I know I do my friend, but a friend needed me last night and I have a really hard time saying no to friends in need.
Say, can y'all use your Illinois connections (or Chicago connections, since, as I understand it King Richard considers Chicago to be the capital of Illinois) to get me just a teeny little bit of that paper he's printing and calling it money?!

674 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:36:50am

re: #659 summergurl
LOL! If only...!

675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:36:56am

re: #664 Dustyvet

VA is playing games again, more delays and stalling.

Damn them. Best decision I ever made... when they were outprocessing me, I was offered either a disability retirement through the DOD or be dumped on the mercy of the VA.

I went DOD. Not even sure why they offered the choice, there is no comparison.

676 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:37:24am

re: #673 realwest

Yeah, I know I do my friend, but a friend needed me last night and I have a really hard time saying no to friends in need.
Say, can y'all use your Illinois connections (or Chicago connections, since, as I understand it King Richard considers Chicago to be the capital of Illinois) to get me just a teeny little bit of that paper he's printing and calling it money?!

You want a copy of the Chicago Tribune?

677 mcainiac  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:37:40am

re: #641 MandyManners

Wow. Now, that is saying it. If McCain had won we would live in a wholy different country by now. Up here in Burlington (lib heaven) all the libs have a smirk, espec. my other who hasnt' spent a day looking for work since the new handout (unemployment moolah). I cant log on much because hes home and would hate this sight.

678 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:37:43am

re: #666 Sheepdogess

I was pretty ignorant about the Israeli-Arab conflicts until I came here.When I was teenager, during the Vietnam war, I was having a conversation with my dad about the communists. I remember like it was yesterday, him saying, "we have a lot more to worry about than the communists. The religious fanatics from the middle east are a far greater threat". He never used the word islam. I had no clue what he was talking about back then. We was a man of few words. It seems we were both right. My dad was a devout catholic and a supporter of Israel to the end of his life.

I have an "I Support Israel" button on my purse. Some days I get a thank you and some days I get a f*** you. It's always interesting here in the Peoples Republik of PS.

Better late than never.

PS? Puget Sound?

679 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:38:05am

re: #675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Damn them. Best decision I ever made... when they were outprocessing me, I was offered either a disability retirement through the DOD or be dumped on the mercy of the VA.

I went DOD. Not even sure why they offered the choice, there is no comparison.

Wonder if I can reenlist and start over...:)

680 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:38:11am

OFT. When the JYGH gets into the NNHG, it won't be long before JHK gets 2T and U3 on the SVU.

681 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:38:20am

re: #665 Lincolntf
Good morning! Uh "Alas Herm, we hardly knew ye..."
what are ya talking about?

682 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:38:49am

re: #677 mcainiac

Wow. Now, that is saying it. If McCain had won we would live in a wholy different country by now. Up here in Burlington (lib heaven) all the libs have a smirk, espec. my other who hasnt' spent a day looking for work since the new handout (unemployment moolah). I cant log on much because hes home and would hate this sight.

Ummm...does he try to control other aspects of your life?

683 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:39:38am

bbiafb.
gtgwtd.

684 saberry0530  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:39:49am

re: #680 Spare O'Lake

OFT. When the JYGH gets into the NNHG, it won't be long before JHK gets 2T and U3 on the SVU.

PDQ!

685 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:39:51am

re: #680 Spare O'Lake

OFT. When the JYGH gets into the NNHG, it won't be long before JHK gets 2T and U3 on the SVU.

WTF?

/

686 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:40:02am

re: #679 Dustyvet

Wonder if I can reenlist and start over...:)

If I could be 18 again, I'd do it in a heartbeat... oh wait, Zero is C-n-C... might have to think about it more, now.

687 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:40:09am

Good morning Lizards. Day five, America held hostage!

688 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:40:29am

re: #683 Spare O'Lake

bbiafb.
gtgwtd.

BeBackinaFuckingBit.

GottoGowiththe?

689 Lincolntf  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:40:41am

re: #681 realwest

Herm Edwards canned by Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, I don't know why I thought people would know what I meant now that I look at my post. Oops. Anyway, Shanahan is rumored to take over, if anyone cares.

690 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:41:03am

re: #687 opnion

Good morning Lizards. Day five, America held hostage!

Morining Opinion...

almost forgot: 1457 days, 3 hours

691 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:41:28am

re: #682 MandyManners

Ummm...does he try to control other aspects of your life?

Whooaaa there Mandy. Where you coming from with that crazy talk! A far lefty trying to control others? Not being open minded?
Wake up - your dreamin sister!

/I don't really think this necessary but just in case.

692 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:41:36am

re: #680 Spare O'Lake

OFT. When the JYGH gets into the NNHG, it won't be long before JHK gets 2T and U3 on the SVU.


You should get that on DVD, OK.

693 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:41:44am

re: #448 MandyManners

*whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack
whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack
whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack
whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack*

With a whack, whack here and a whack, whack there...

694 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:42:14am

re: #679 Dustyvet NOOO don't re-enlist (you're too old anyway!) you really REALLY don't want to be an arty guy these days - I hear they aim them big cannons these days, not just go "hey - somewhere over there, FIRE!" .

695 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:42:25am

re: #683 Spare O'Lake

bbiafb.
gtgwtd.

GottoGoWashtheDog?

696 gregg  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:42:35am

re: #688 MandyManners

gtgwtd - I think it's Got To Go Wash The ? (Dishes/Dog/Dodge)...

697 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:42:38am

re: #497 MandyManners

Really?

698 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:43:03am

Hamlet is talking about his mother and her husband, his uncle. Hamlet's mother married his uncle, who murdered the king, Hamlet's father. So we have a toxic stew of incest, murder, and revenge cooking here.

Sounds a lot like Washington, D.C.

699 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:43:13am

re: #688 MandyManners

BeBackinaFuckingBit.

GottoGowiththe?

Walk The Dog

700 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:43:19am

re: #691 monkeytime

Whooaaa there Mandy. Where you coming from with that crazy talk! A far lefty trying to control others? Not being open minded?
Wake up - your dreamin sister!

/I don't really think this necessary but just in case.

My ears perk up when I hear someone saying that their SO tries to limit access to information/other people/whatever.

701 saberry0530  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:43:35am

re: #683 Spare O'Lake

bbiafb.
gtgwtd.

GottoGoWashtheDog?
GottgowithTomDooley!

702 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:43:39am

re: #694 realwest

NOOO don't re-enlist (you're too old anyway!) you really REALLY don't want to be an arty guy these days - I hear they aim them big cannons these days, not just go "hey - somewhere over there, FIRE!" .

Grrr...Calling old friend in FDC...:)

703 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:44:02am

re: #690 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morining Opinion...

almost forgot: 1457 days, 3 hours


Good morning to you Lt. We just need to hang on & enjoy the entertaining parts & suck it up during those heinous occasions that will happen.

704 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:44:22am

re: #693 Dustyvet

With a whack, whack here and a whack, whack there...

Here a whack, there a whack, everywhere a whack whack.

Old Mean Mandy had a bat, E-I-E-I-O.

705 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:44:25am

re: #695 MandyManners

GottoGoWashtheDog?

The dog hates the Hot Wax part...:)

706 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:44:33am

re: #700 MandyManners

My ears perk up when I hear someone saying that their SO tries to limit access to information/other people/whatever.


Maybe she's married to Obama.

707 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:45:30am

re: #694 realwest

NOOO don't re-enlist (you're too old anyway!) you really REALLY don't want to be an arty guy these days - I hear they aim them big cannons these days, not just go "hey - somewhere over there, FIRE!" .

No, some guy in an AC cab types in a GPS grid, the cannoneers "just point it over there" and it goes through a window 15 miles away.

Dusty would feel right at home.

708 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:45:34am

re: #704 MandyManners

Here a whack, there a whack, everywhere a whack whack.

Old Mean Mandy had a bat, E-I-E-I-O.

I wanted to avoid the word OLD...:)

709 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:46:21am

I love the new insecurity the Bamster shows by mentioning Rush Limbaugh by name in his lecture to Republican "leaders". In the war of words Limbaugh can win hands down,however; I do fear for Rush's safety.

710 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:46:51am

re: #697 Sheepdogess

Really?

Yep. I moved from small-town South to the University of Washington in Seattle. Where I lived, we had poor people but, the families/community took care of them. I had heard of homeless people before I moved but, it was not until I saw them--especially disabled, homeless vets--that I grew outraged.

711 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:46:51am

re: #678 MandyManners

Puget Sound

712 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:46:53am

re: #707 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

No, some guy in an AC cab types in a GPS grid, the cannoneers "just point it over there" and it goes through a window 15 miles away.

Dusty would feel right at home.

Looking at can of shaving cream, looking at LT's boots...

Evil Grin...

713 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:46:56am

re: #702 Dustyvet
Yeah, yeah, I'm quaking in my boots here - shit if I move ten feet y'all still miss me by a (literally) mile!
Thibbit!
And check your e-mail please!

714 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:47:05am

re: #703 opnion

Good morning to you Lt. We just need to hang on & enjoy the entertaining parts & suck it up during those heinous occasions that will happen.

I've contemplated keeping a list of all the little things that happen, like Zero turning to his lawyer after signing an executive order and asking what it means.

/but decided against it, too depressing.

715 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:47:08am

re: #698 quickjustice

Hamlet is talking about his mother and her husband, his uncle. Hamlet's mother married his uncle, who murdered the king, Hamlet's father. So we have a toxic stew of incest, murder, and revenge cooking here.

Sounds a lot like Washington, D.C.

Toxic indeed.

716 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:47:39am

re: #699 Spare O'Lake

Walk The Dog

Why not wash the dog? Do you like a dirty dog? Poor doggie.

717 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:47:56am

Whoa..The ending of the 2006 movie Copying Beethoven was really good..
He lays on his death bed describing how he wants the piece to develope..
In the background you hear the music start..He says I want a single voice crying out to God right now...The music turns into a song we all know at Christmas..I don't know the name..But it was a beautiful ending..
So in two hundred years we go from music that moves your soul to 'crazy bitch' on the dance floor...Very moving picture

718 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:48:40am

re: #712 Dustyvet

Looking at can of shaving cream, looking at LT's boots...

Evil Grin...

They are so nasty, it would probably help. Go for it.

719 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:48:40am

re: #705 Dustyvet

The dog hates the Hot Wax part...:)

It has a tendency to rip the fur out by the root.

720 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:48:56am

re: #706 n in wi

Maybe she's married to Obama.

LOL!

721 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:49:10am

Nothing like a good laugh first thing in the morning. Then when I stopped laughing, I thanked God for America.

Newspaper claims suspect transformed into a goat

Fri Jan 23, 6:07 pm ET

LAGOS, Nigeria – One of Nigeria's biggest daily newspapers reported that police implicated a goat in an attempted automobile theft. In a front-page article on Friday, the Vanguard newspaper said that two men tried to steal a Mazda car two days earlier in Kwara State, with one suspect transforming himself into a goat as vigilantes cornered him.
The paper quoted police spokesman Tunde Mohammed as saying that while one suspect escaped, the other transformed into a goat as he was about to be apprehended.

722 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:49:10am

I gotta get me one of these.

723 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:49:22am

I didn't check the whole thread so this may have been covered.
Obama is advising Republicans to quit listeneing to Rush Limbaugh.
Seruously , they covered it on FNC. Barry says that Limbaugh is a naysayer.
It is a clumsy attempt at censorship light. Why not just hand it to Rush?
How long before he is selling a Tee Shirt with the theme?

724 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:49:49am

re: #711 Sheepdogess

Puget Sound

I learned to stop bitching and love the colors green and gray when I lived up there.

725 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:49:53am

re: #707 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)ROTFLMAO! Back in the day, Dusty and his guys would put a 155 or 105 within a half mile or so of where you wanted it to go, regardless of the coordinates you typed in!

BBIAM!

726 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:50:45am

re: #714 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I've contemplated keeping a list of all the little things that happen, like Zero turning to his lawyer after signing an executive order and asking what it means.

/but decided against it, too depressing.

That list could be empowering, especially when you try to convince folks of your POV.

727 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:51:09am

re: #709 Bobblehead

I do fear for Rush's safety.

I hope Rush doesn't take that lightly.

728 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:51:22am

Just in ... haven't skimmed down.

Did we ever get into a "pernicious woman" thread?

/perhaps signing my death warrant

729 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:51:24am

re: #725 realwest

ROTFLMAO! Back in the day, Dusty and his guys would put a 155 or 105 within a half mile or so of where you wanted it to go, regardless of the coordinates you typed in!

BBIAM!

They call that "good shoot'in".

/Bet they'd tell you that if you grunts could read a friggin' map, you'd get the rounds where you wanted them.

730 Lincolntf  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:51:43am

re: #721 ciaospirit

He turned himself into a goat in Nigeria? Pervert!

731 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:51:54am

re: #721 ciaospirit

Nothing like a good laugh first thing in the morning. Then when I stopped laughing, I thanked God for America.

Maybe he was one of those penis-stealing witches?

732 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:52:02am

re: #721 ciaospirit

Nothing like a good laugh first thing in the morning. Then when I stopped laughing, I thanked God for America.

We talked about that earlier...My view is if you can change into a goat and get arrested..Why not turn into T-Rex? Eat those dang cops trying to arrest you..That's what I would do...

733 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:52:33am

re: #721 ciaospirit

Whoa. A cop buys into that nonsense?

734 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:52:37am

re: #714 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I've contemplated keeping a list of all the little things that happen, like Zero turning to his lawyer after signing an executive order and asking what it means.

/but decided against it, too depressing.

That was a classic clueless moment for the Dear Leader. Wait until his first press conference & he gets a question that is not, "Mr. President, why are you so freaking fantastic?"

735 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:52:44am

re: #726 MandyManners

That list could be empowering, especially when you try to convince folks of your POV.

OK... I'll start it, just for fun... now I need you guys to help.

What date and items do you recall? They are piling up too fast for my widdle brain.

736 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:53:40am

re: #729 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

They call that "good shoot'in".

/Bet they'd tell you that if you grunts could read a friggin' map, you'd get the rounds where you wanted them.

Shhh, Dusty is plotting...

737 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:53:43am

re: #722 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I gotta get me one of these.

Wow! That's some serious firepower.

738 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:54:47am

So it seems like a pretty slow news day so far.

739 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:55:24am

re: #717 HoosierHoops
Oh, thanks for giving away the ending there, Hoops!
.
.
.
Just kidding, I wasn't planning on watching it anyway!

740 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:55:30am

How about the very first time I heard him speak in public back around August and I realized before he had spoken 25 words that he was a a phony and he was utterly full of shit?

741 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:55:40am

re: #709 Bobblehead

I love the new insecurity the Bamster shows by mentioning Rush Limbaugh by name in his lecture to Republican "leaders". In the war of words Limbaugh can win hands down,however; I do fear for Rush's safety.

Surely you're not suggesting that CBBHO would have him killed.

742 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:56:08am

re: #734 opnion

That was a classic clueless moment for the Dear Leader. Wait until his first press conference & he gets a question that is not, "Mr. President, why are you so freaking fantastic?"

What day did that happen?

743 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:56:17am

re: #735 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

OK... I'll start it, just for fun... now I need you guys to help.

What date and items do you recall? They are piling up too fast for my widdle brain.

I have dozens and dozens and dozens of links about CBBHO.

744 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:56:37am

Vietnam 1969, 105 Howitzer Artillery fire


745 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:56:53am

re: #723 opnionAh don't worry about it opnion, the folks who listen to Rush don't listen to Obama - and I think and hope that more people will start listening to Rush than listen to Obama.

746 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:57:14am

re: #740 SurferDoc

How about the very first time I heard him speak in public back around August and I realized before he had spoken 25 words that he was a a phony and he was utterly full of shit?

How about when he announced his intention to seek the nomination two years ago this month?

747 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:57:24am

re: #743 MandyManners

I have dozens and dozens and dozens of links about CBBHO.

Just since he flubbed the oaf... wait, I'll add that one, since I know which day it happened.

748 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:57:46am

They are now discussing the Obama living conditions with Barry'smother in law in the House. It is with an "expert" young , woman, you know, she wrote a book.
I swear this sounds like a sitcom. I can just see it as a prime time half hour, once a week.

749 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:58:53am

THIS is serious firepower...stand back...


750 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:59:20am

Rush pointed out that the "Fairness Doctrine" will not be called such. It will be attempted by limiting ownership of media. Not sure how it will work,but it will be attempted in a stealthy way.

751 lawhawk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:59:49am

re: #641 MandyManners

Well, the counter to that is, thank god McCain wasn't elected because I wouldn't have to spend all my time defending the indefensible - like bending over backwards to support Democrat positions all while sticking a stick in the eye of GOP leadership (which is what McCain's done ever since Obama was inaugurated).

Frankly, McCain was worse than awful, and only marginally better than Obama. We would still be facing a massive porkfest that was thinly disguised as a stimulus package. McCain is no more a fiscal conservative than Obama is. But he would still have been better than where Obama is taking the nation.

752 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 6:59:59am

re: #730 Lincolntf

He turned himself into a goat in Nigeria? Pervert!

Goats get lots of dates.

753 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:00:10am

President Barack Obama asked the nation today to "hold my administration accountable" for the results of the economic stimulus package up for a House vote next week.

President Barack Obama asked the nation today to "hold my administration accountable" for the results of the economic stimulus package up for a House vote next week.

You bet your socialist ass well hold you accountable. Especially since we know IT WILL NOT WORK. It's been tried before. And instead of spreading wealth spread misery. But that's what socialist really want. Equality of misery.

Morning gang, think I skip coffee this morning and go straight to straight shots.

754 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:00:30am

re: #750 n in wi

Rush pointed out that the "Fairness Doctrine" will not be called such. It will be attempted by limiting ownership of media. Not sure how it will work,but it will be attempted in a stealthy way.

Good, let them concentrated on petty stuff like that. Ultimately that is what brought Nixon down. I hope they get all paranoid.

755 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:00:36am

re: #722 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Why? You enjoy being knocked on your keister?!
Didja notice that none of the first guys, even after firing it once, bothered to stand one foot out in front and LEAN into the rifle butt?!

756 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:01:14am

re: #747 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Just since he flubbed the oaf... wait, I'll add that one, since I know which day it happened.

Roberts flubbed the oath not BO

757 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:02:05am

re: #752 opnion

Goats get lots of dates.

I don't give a fig if they do.

758 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:02:05am

re: #747 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Just since he flubbed the oaf... wait, I'll add that one, since I know which day it happened.

My links go back to April, 2007.

In a barn-burning, record-smashing fund-raising campaign season, Barack Obama tapped a new breed of Manhattan donors and won the expectations game.

SNIP

he investment banker Robert Wolf first met Barack Obama one afternoon in December in a midtown conference room. Obama was in town to deliver a speech at a charity dinner for children in poverty at the Mandarin Oriental—but also to pursue another, less high-minded, but more momentous, objective: to begin the process of attempting to pick Hillary Clinton’s pocket.

The conference room belonged to George Soros, the billionaire bête noire of the right. After talking to Soros for an hour about his prospective bid for the White House, Obama walked down the hall and found assembled a dozen of the city’s heaviest-hitting Democratic fund-raisers: investment banker Hassan Nemazee, Wall Street power Blair Effron, private-equity hotshot Mark Gallogly, hedge-fund manager Orin Kramer. Most had been big-time John Kerry backers in 2004. Most had a connection to the Clintons. All were officially uncommitted for 2008.

SNIP

759 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:02:12am

re: #729 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) LOL! Yeah but then we just told 'em it was too bad they went to the John Effin' Kerry School of Navigation!

760 who is john galt  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:02:31am

re: #7 Rob with a mind

I logged on this morning full of hopeandchange and you completely destroyed all of my hope.
Thanks,
but hey, we still have lots of change
//

761 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:02:47am

re: #751 lawhawk

We really had no chance in this past election since there were really 2 democrats in the race. Unlike past years, no matter how much I tried, I just never seemed to to get any stickers, shirts, or banners for this past election. I guess deep down I knew all along.

762 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:03:19am
763 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:03:26am

re: #751 lawhawk

Well, the counter to that is, thank god McCain wasn't elected because I wouldn't have to spend all my time defending the indefensible - like bending over backwards to support Democrat positions all while sticking a stick in the eye of GOP leadership (which is what McCain's done ever since Obama was inaugurated).

Frankly, McCain was worse than awful, and only marginally better than Obama. We would still be facing a massive porkfest that was thinly disguised as a stimulus package. McCain is no more a fiscal conservative than Obama is. But he would still have been better than where Obama is taking the nation.

The last sentence says it all for me. I don't think that McCain would've destroyed our ability to fight and win.

764 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:03:26am

re: #759 realwest

LOL! Yeah but then we just told 'em it was too bad they went to the John Effin' Kerry School of Navigation!

UP THE MEKONG RIVER WITHOUT A PADDLE...!

765 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:03:39am

re: #748 opnion

They are now discussing the Obama living conditions with Barry'smother in law in the House. It is with an "expert" young , woman, you know, she wrote a book.
I swear this sounds like a sitcom. I can just see it as a prime time half hour, once a week.

Lets do the casting.
Mother in Law part will be Wheezy from the Jefferson's. Then anytime something goes wrong, she can shout in that gravely voice "GEORGE"

766 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:03:43am

re: #745 realwest

Ah don't worry about it opnion, the folks who listen to Rush don't listen to Obama - and I think and hope that more people will start listening to Rush than listen to Obama.

Hi Real. No , I have no concern about Limbaughs ratings, they will now go up. It is just breathtaking that BHO is such an ass. Should the POTUS be advising the opposition on where to get their info?

767 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:03:57am

re: #764 Dustyvet

UP THE MEKONG RIVER WITHOUT A PADDLE...!

But he had the hat!

768 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:04:02am

re: #744 Dustyvet

Vietnam 1969, 105 Howitzer Artillery fire

[Video]

There ya go... profilin' with your shirt off.

/Good film, thanks for sharing!

769 lawhawk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:04:12am

re: #745 realwest

Ah don't worry about it opnion, the folks who listen to Rush don't listen to Obama - and I think and hope that more people will start listening to Rush than listen to Obama.

The problem is that the GOP leadership isn't listening... they're unable to put together a coherent message - let alone agree on a message.

If the idea is to get the GOP to have a strong comeback in 2010, they have to start attacking Obama's socialist policies now. That starts with opposing the porkfest that the media and Congress claims is a stimulus package.

It means acting like fiscal conservatives and demanding accountability. The reason that GOP was sent into the wilderness is because they abandoned the notion of fiscal responsibility, among others. Fiscal responsibility is a message that resonates with most Americans. Start with that. Add in national defense and national security, and you've got a trifecta of interrelated issues that can actually result in gaining seats in 2010 because we know that Obama is going to spend like there's no tomorrow and will speed redistribution of wealth despite its corrosive and destructive effect on those who actually produce wealth in the nation.

770 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:04:13am

hot off the press this AM...this will stimulate you I reckon


[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

771 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:04:21am

re: #738 Nevergiveup Shisssh - Obama's taking a nap and the whole wide world is under orders to be quiet!
:)

772 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:04:27am

re: #741 MandyManners

Surely you're not suggesting that CBBHO would have him killed.

I'm thinking more like hater nutroots.

773 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:04:42am

re: #753 JCM

President Barack Obama asked the nation today to "hold my administration accountable" for the results of the economic stimulus package up for a House vote next week.


You bet your socialist ass well hold you accountable. Especially since we know IT WILL NOT WORK. It's been tried before. And instead of spreading wealth spread misery. But that's what socialist really want. Equality of misery.
Morning gang, think I skip coffee this morning and go straight to straight shots.

And, that misery can be directed to hating "the rich" and the demand that they be taxed into oblivion.

774 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:05:17am

re: #757 SurferDoc

I don't give a fig if they do.

Orange you special?

775 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:05:37am

re: #768 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

There ya go... profilin' with your shirt off.

/Good film, thanks for sharing!

He just want's Mandy's attention...

776 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:05:37am

Worky Worky earn "Tofurkey"!

777 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:06:11am

re: #756 albusteve

Roberts flubbed the oath not BO

When B Hussein took the second oath, he didn't use a Bible according to a radio report.

778 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:06:46am

re: #756 albusteve

Roberts flubbed the oath not BO

It was a team effort at best, Barry interrupted Roberts first.

779 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:06:47am

re: #762 ploome hineni

let's hope this is a mean collective nightmare?

too late...go to PJMedia and do some surfing...

780 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:06:50am

re: #742 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

What day did that happen?

On Wednesday, he he gave a press statement about the closure of Gitmo.
He had to stop & ask attorney Gregg Craig what the procedures will be.
It is Obama's policy & he had to stop & ask?

781 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:06:50am

re: #766 opnion

The truth is he doesn't want the opposition to listen to Rush because Rush is right - they will get the opinions of the "little people" through Rush which, in turn, counters The One's "understood" brilliance. That cannot be. Solution? Off with the critics head! (not literally).

782 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:07:18am

re: #761 Nevergiveup

We really had no chance in this past election since there were really 2 democrats in the race. Unlike past years, no matter how much I tried, I just never seemed to to get any stickers, shirts, or banners for this past election. I guess deep down I knew all along.

Not 2 Democrats. 1 Dem and 1 Socialist.
Sadly the Socialist won.

783 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:07:20am
784 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:07:52am

re: #769 lawhawk

The problem is that the GOP leadership isn't listening... they're unable to put together a coherent message - let alone agree on a message.

If the idea is to get the GOP to have a strong comeback in 2010, they have to start attacking Obama's socialist policies now. That starts with opposing the porkfest that the media and Congress claims is a stimulus package.

It means acting like fiscal conservatives and demanding accountability. The reason that GOP was sent into the wilderness is because they abandoned the notion of fiscal responsibility, among others. Fiscal responsibility is a message that resonates with most Americans. Start with that. Add in national defense and national security, and you've got a trifecta of interrelated issues that can actually result in gaining seats in 2010 because we know that Obama is going to spend like there's no tomorrow and will speed redistribution of wealth despite its corrosive and destructive effect on those who actually produce wealth in the nation.

This is why we need to be all over our Republican officials.

785 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:07:56am

re: #765 n in wi

Lets do the casting.
Mother in Law part will be Wheezy from the Jefferson's. Then anytime something goes wrong, she can shout in that gravely voice "GEORGE"

Good good so far. Now who plays BHO & WAB?

786 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:07:58am

Oh, and good morning everyone!

787 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:08:00am

re: #709 Bobblehead

I love the new insecurity the Bamster shows by mentioning Rush Limbaugh by name in his lecture to Republican "leaders". In the war of words Limbaugh can win hands down,however; I do fear for Rush's safety.


So do I.

re: #741 MandyMannersre: #741 MandyManners

Surely you're not suggesting that CBBHO would have him killed.

Obama Presidency - It's beginning to look a lot like Germany... in 1933... sung to the music of It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas...

I thank God for our guns.

788 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:08:09am

re: #782 n in wi

Not 2 Democrats. 1 Dem and 1 Socialist.
Sadly the Socialist won.

Yeah, your summation is more accurate than mine.

789 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:08:14am

re: #744 Dustyvet
Whoa, it looks like one of them "gunners" is wearing white shoes! LOL!
And at about the 3:50 mark the guy on the right sure looks like he's reading instructions or something!

790 lawhawk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:08:15am

re: #753 JCM

Oh, we're going to hold the Obama Administration accountable for the fiscally irresponsible actions we're about to embark upon. We're also going to hold your feet to the fire on undermining US national security by your initial executive orders. Continuing the policy of UAV airstrikes is fine, but where are you going to get the intel to carry out additional strikes unless you're able to detain and interrogate terrorists captured around the world? That information pipeline dries up, and with it, the ability to track terrorists. That's a bad place to be, and no good can come from it, no matter how you think it might improve our stature in world opinion.

791 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:08:21am

re: #756 albusteve

Roberts flubbed the oath not BO

Morning Steve!
When I was an Altar Boy in the 5th grade I could say the Mass in Latin perfectly and not know one word I said..
If you are giving the Oath the the President of the frigging United States and can't do 4 lines right..then sorry about your luck...Was practice time to valuable..everybody was too busy? Look..It's easy to sit back and make fun of blunders..
But lawd...How hard can it really be?
In 4 years I'm nominating Goddess to contract out the oath for practice time and perfection...
I think I did OK repeating my Vows during Marriage..I just repeated whatever the preacher said

792 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:08:21am

re: #687 opnion

Good morning Lizards. Day five, America held hostage!

Morning opnion. You only have 5 fingers and ten toes left than you are fucked/

793 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:08:42am

re: #772 ciaospirit

I'm thinking more like hater nutroots.

Moonbats with guns? Black Nationalists?

794 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:08:46am

re: #741 MandyManners

Surely you're not suggesting that CBBHO would have him killed.

There are a lot of crazies out there that hang on the One's every word. I worry about all conservative spokespersons just as we have all worried about Charles' safety from time to time.

795 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:08:51am

re: #755 realwest

Why? You enjoy being knocked on your keister?!
Didja notice that none of the first guys, even after firing it once, bothered to stand one foot out in front and LEAN into the rifle butt?!

Sorry, total sarc... My right shoulder was destroyed in the aforementioned plane crash. I can't take the recoil of a BB gun anymore.

796 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:09:24am

re: #777 ciaospirit

When B Hussein took the second oath, he didn't use a Bible according to a radio report.

he didnt need to...just repeat the oath correctly...from what they say

797 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:10:08am

re: #781 ArmyWife

The truth is he doesn't want the opposition to listen to Rush because Rush is right - they will get the opinions of the "little people" through Rush which, in turn, counters The One's "understood" brilliance. That cannot be. Solution? Off with the critics head! (not literally).


Yeah, but our absolutely brillant new President has made Limbaugh 'forbidden fruit" It will now seem like an act of definace to listen to him, & human nature loves that.

798 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:10:34am

re: #790 lawhawk

Stop bringing logic into this. Logic has no place here. How will logic help Michelle's children, for the love of Pete?!?

799 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:10:56am

re: #783 ploome hineni

so a few hundred people with money, went on an advertising campaign and

sold Nobama to America?

That's what it sounds like. However, the man behind the curtain already had that plan in the works. In fact, I think he was looking for someone and booted HRC in favor of CBBHO.

800 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:11:04am

Hamas prepared to accept Fatah forces at Gaza Strip crossings

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Gee how depressing is it when people keep making the same mistakes over and over and over again.

801 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:11:21am

re: #786 ArmyWife

Top of the day to you, too!

802 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:11:24am

re: #785 opnion

Good good so far. Now who plays BHO & WAB?

James Caviezel has already played BHO in one movie.

803 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:11:25am

re: #789 realwest

Hey,did your blood work come back ok? If you do not want to answer on the thread , I understand.

804 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:11:25am

re: #758 MandyManners

All good stuff, but my list starts on 20 Jan 09...noonish. :-)

805 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:11:35am

re: #742 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

What day did that happen?


Here's the transcript, but hearing the actual audio gives the full effect of his cluelessness. I don't have a direct link to that. Got this at Rush's site.

OBAMA: (chiseling in marble sound effect) In order to effect the appropriate disposition of individuals currently detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo, uh, and promptly to close the detention facility at Guantanamo consistent with the national security and foreign policy interests of the United States and interests of justice, I hereby order. And we then we will then, uh, provide the process whereby Guantanamo will be closed no later than, uh, one year from now. We will be... Uhhh... Ummm... Is there a separate executive order, Greg, with respect to how we're going to dispose of the detainees? Is that it, eh, uh, what we're doing?

CRAIG: We'll set up a process!

OBAMA: We will be, uh, setting up a process whereby this is going to be taking place.

806 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:11:39am
807 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:11:58am

re: #797 opnion

Yeah, but our absolutely brillant new President has made Limbaugh 'forbidden fruit" It will now seem like an act of definace to listen to him, & human nature loves that.

Rush's next show is Monday right? What time? I really never listen to him, but this time I want to.

808 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:12:04am

re: #791 HoosierHoops

Morning Steve!
When I was an Altar Boy in the 5th grade I could say the Mass in Latin perfectly and not know one word I said..
If you are giving the Oath the the President of the frigging United States and can't do 4 lines right..then sorry about your luck...Was practice time to valuable..everybody was too busy? Look..It's easy to sit back and make fun of blunders..
But lawd...How hard can it really be?
In 4 years I'm nominating Goddess to contract out the oath for practice time and perfection...
I think I did OK repeating my Vows during Marriage..I just repeated whatever the preacher said

howdy...I read that Roberts refused to use a card to read from and that he flubbed it...BO had it memorized and corrected him...as for marriage I vowed three times and have no clue what I said...heh

809 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:12:08am

re: #797 opnion

Which is fine, and supports my initial argument - Obama isn't all that brilliant when left to his own devices. That is his Achilles heel and we must shine the spotlight on it.

810 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:12:11am

re: #784 MandyManners

This is why we need to be all over our Republican officials.

We need to get rid of our Republican Officials.

811 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:12:25am

re: #798 ArmyWife

Stop bringing logic into this. Logic has no place here. How will logic help Michelle's children, for the love of Pete?!?

Hi Friend..Is your tummy feeling better today? How is your Daughter?
Kind regards

812 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:12:36am

re: #807 Nevergiveup

Rush's next show is Monday right? What time? I really never listen to him, but this time I want to.

12-3 in most markets. Should be fun.

813 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:12:36am

re: #790 lawhawk

Oh, we're going to hold the Obama Administration accountable for the fiscally irresponsible actions we're about to embark upon. We're also going to hold your feet to the fire on undermining US national security by your initial executive orders. Continuing the policy of UAV airstrikes is fine, but where are you going to get the intel to carry out additional strikes unless you're able to detain and interrogate terrorists captured around the world? That information pipeline dries up, and with it, the ability to track terrorists. That's a bad place to be, and no good can come from it, no matter how you think it might improve our stature in world opinion.

But damn well know the MFMSM will spin it all as GWB fault for at least two years.

814 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:12:57am

re: #787 Sheepdogess

Obama Presidency - It's beginning to look a lot like Germany... in 1933... sung to the music of It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas...

I thank God for our guns.

I'll be keeping an eye on the Second Amendment's treatment by CBBHO and Congress, and their treatment of thee Fairness Doctrine.

815 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:12:57am

re: #751 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk, the fact is that McCain, for all his faults, LOVES America and would have defended us extremely well I believe. Obama not only doesn't LOVE America, nor Like America, he doesn't even RESPECT America - that's why he thinks the Declaration of Indpendence needs "updating" and that the Consitution is fraught with errors.
IF you didn't vote for McCain, warts and all, then y'all stuck ALL OF US with Obama.
Sure glad I don't live near a big city right now - or even a small, Port city.

816 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:12:59am

re: #809 ArmyWife

Which is fine, and supports my initial argument - Obama isn't all that brilliant when left to his own devices. That is his Achilles heel and we must shine the spotlight on it.

Don't worry Putin already is. Oh you mean us?

817 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:13:27am

re: #812 Bobblehead

12-3 in most markets. Should be fun.

Thanks. Don't miss radio I think.

818 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:14:15am

re: #790 lawhawk

Oh, we're going to hold the Obama Administration accountable for the fiscally irresponsible actions we're about to embark upon. We're also going to hold your feet to the fire on undermining US national security by your initial executive orders. Continuing the policy of UAV airstrikes is fine, but where are you going to get the intel to carry out additional strikes unless you're able to detain and interrogate terrorists captured around the world? That information pipeline dries up, and with it, the ability to track terrorists. That's a bad place to be, and no good can come from it, no matter how you think it might improve our stature in world opinion.

It's not just the interrogation of the terrorists, it's also the ability to seize their computers, cells and paperwork.

819 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:14:34am

re: #753 JCM Hey JCM! Y'all ought to save that quote so we can bring it out and mash it into his face the first time he blames Bush for the economy!
How are you doing today my friend?

820 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:14:35am

re: #806 ploome hineni

my blood pressure

sorry...I go there every morning and get it out of the way...maybe that's why I'm pissed all day...tomarrow I'll start with cartoons

821 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:14:39am

Hey. If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I'd like John Kerry, my boss, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, fore-fleshing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is. Hallelujah. Holy shit. Where's the Tylenol?

822 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:14:40am

re: #780 opnion

On Wednesday, he he gave a press statement about the closure of Gitmo.
He had to stop & ask attorney Gregg Craig what the procedures will be.
It is Obama's policy & he had to stop & ask?

Yeah, he had to ask the white guy.

823 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:15:07am

re: #807 Nevergiveup

Rush's next show is Monday right? What time? I really never listen to him, but this time I want to.

Monday, 12 EST.

824 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:15:40am

re: #794 Bobblehead

There are a lot of crazies out there that hang on the One's every word. I worry about all conservative spokespersons just as we have all worried about Charles' safety from time to time.

I'm sure Rush long ago has consulted with security experts. I hope Charles never has to do that.

825 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:15:41am

re: #811 HoosierHoops

Yes, thank you. I am back to my normal self. The daughter is still a bit owie, but getting better. She will love that I am sharing this - she had an ovarian cyst rupture. She went to take her SATs this morning, though. She took motrin, and a heating patch with her.

826 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:16:45am

re: #821 Dustyvet

Hey. If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I'd like John Kerry, my boss, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, fore-fleshing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is. Hallelujah. Holy shit. Where's the Tylenol?

Is it your birthday?

827 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:17:25am

re: #766 opnion
Oh hell, Obama isn't afraid to tell EVERYONE everything he thinks they need to know - just ask 'em!
The nation has elected not just an "empty suit" but a world class putz,too boot.

828 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:17:26am

re: #804 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

All good stuff, but my list starts on 20 Jan 09...noonish. :-)

He told us what he was gonna' do so I'll be looking to the past to see how he lives up to that now. So far, he's batting 100 per cent.

829 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:17:29am

re: #825 ArmyWife

Yes, thank you. I am back to my normal self. The daughter is still a bit owie, but getting better. She will love that I am sharing this - she had an ovarian cyst rupture. She went to take her SATs this morning, though. She took motrin, and a heating patch with her.

Eeek... lousy way to be during a multi-hour test! Hope it turns out OK.

830 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:17:37am

re: #821 Dustyvet

Hey. If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I'd like John Kerry, my boss, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, fore-fleshing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is. Hallelujah. Holy shit. Where's the Tylenol?

Stop making me laugh! Really Kerry is too easy a Target..shooting fish in a small little pond comes to mind..

831 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:18:00am

re: #814 MandyManners

I'll be keeping an eye on the Second Amendment's treatment by CBBHO and Congress, and their treatment of thee Fairness Doctrine.

AG Eric Holder's assaults on the 2nd Amend will not be obvious.

Even more troubling, while Holder served in the Clinton Justice Department, he oversaw the background check system, but he has never been asked to explain why the system broke down so consistently while he ran it.

The constant breakdowns of "instant" background-check systems during the Clinton administration halted gun sales for hours or even days at a time, costing stores untold sales and additional costs. Even by the end of the Clinton administration, from September 1999 to December 2000, the system was down about one hour for every 16.7 hours of operation. The breakdowns often came in big blocks of time, the worst during a period covering 60 business hours during two weeks in the middle of May 2000. During his tenure, gun shows sometimes found that they couldn’t sell guns during the entire weekend that they were open.

Try running a business where you face random shutdowns and neither customers nor sellers are ever informed of how long outages are expected to last. In addition to the government-imposed fees on gun sellers and the regulatory harassment of gun sellers with no evidence that these policies have reduce crime, it is not surprising that the number of gun dealers has plummeted by over 80 percent since 1992.

The breakdown in background checks, which had been a problem for years under the Clinton administration, magically fixed itself within weeks of President Bush assuming office in 2001, and the problems have not recurred.

Such "games" are defacto, temporary bans on the the right to purchase firearms.

832 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:18:01am

re: #826 Erik The Red

Is it your birthday?

Nope...:) Just one of the best movie rants ever filmed...:)

833 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:18:10am

re: #807 Nevergiveup

Rush's next show is Monday right? What time? I really never listen to him, but this time I want to.

Ditto.

834 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:18:12am

Suddenly stories like this are making CNN's front page -

15 Militants Killed In Afghanistan.

Change!

835 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:18:44am

re: #827 realwest

Oh hell, Obama isn't afraid to tell EVERYONE everything he thinks they need to know - just ask 'em!
The nation has elected not just an "empty suit" but a world class putz,too boot.


The "Putz". LOL

836 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:18:45am

re: #810 SurferDoc

We need to get rid of our Republican Officials.

Not all are RINO's.

837 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:19:24am

re: #828 MandyManners

He told us what he was gonna' do so I'll be looking to the past to see how he lives up to that now. So far, he's batting 100 per cent.

No doubt and I decidely not one of those who claims they couldn't read the guy before he had a chance to screw things up as POTUS.

I'm just keeping a record of all the little things that happen, and when, during his term in office... as I think they will all disappear down the memory hole at some point.

838 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:19:24am

re: #769 lawhawkI don't disagree with you lawhawk, but WE ALL SHOULD BE WRITING TO OUR REPUBLICAN congresscritters, even if we aren't in their district or State.

839 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:19:29am

re: #819 realwest

Hey JCM! Y'all ought to save that quote so we can bring it out and mash it into his face the first time he blames Bush for the economy!
How are you doing today my friend?

Excellent. About ready to churn out some breakfast for the kiddos.

840 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:19:30am

re: #833 MandyManners

Ditto.

Monday to Friday 12pm til 3pm eastern.

841 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:20:18am

re: #814 MandyManners

I'll be keeping an eye on the Second Amendment's treatment by CBBHO and Congress, and their treatment of thee Fairness Doctrine.

Just yesterday I heard the Fairness Doctrine will be tucked into one of the new stimulous packages. It'll be under cover of some sort of nonsense about station ownership or such. They plan to chase talk radio into the internet and then they'll regulate the internet.

This sounds like a done deal and I don't see how it can be changed. I mean, who do we complain to and what difference will it make?

Scary times.

842 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:20:36am

re: #770 albusteve
Oh, gee, thanks for that one - really made my day.

843 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:20:42am

re: #821 Dustyvet

Hey. If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I'd like John Kerry, my boss, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, fore-fleshing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is. Hallelujah. Holy shit. Where's the Tylenol?

I'll deliver him when you deliver this guy to me.

844 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:20:46am

re: #829 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I know - but on her way to the SATs the last time, she was rear ended totaling her car (she was fine, thank goodness). She was to shaken to take the test and we are running out of time here! I felt bad, and she will have one more opportunity if the scores are less than ideal, but she needed to get in there and see what it was like.

845 jwb7605  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:21:10am

re: #836 MandyManners

Not all are RINO's.

Good morning Mandy!
Let me annoy you right away by saying that with a few notable exceptions, determining RINOS is like determining "innocents" in Palestine.

Unless under fire, they all look alike.

846 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:21:18am

re: #829 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Eeek... lousy way to be during a multi-hour test! Hope it turns out OK.

Sorry to hear that. I had a friend who suffered through an ovarian cyst. She said she could not imagine anything more painful. Yours is a brave little girl. Hope she does well on her SATs.

847 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:21:22am

re: #843 MandyManners

I'll deliver him when you deliver this guy to me.

I'll see what I can do..:)

848 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:21:34am

re: #841 vapig

Well be of good cheer. Usually any attempt at censorship does back fire.

849 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:21:40am

re: #807 Nevergiveup

Rush's next show is Monday right? What time? I really never listen to him, but this time I want to.


11am in Chicago on WLS AM. It varies in different markets, but your local newspaper will have the listing.

850 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:21:42am

re: #825 ArmyWife

Yes, thank you. I am back to my normal self. The daughter is still a bit owie, but getting better. She will love that I am sharing this - she had an ovarian cyst rupture. She went to take her SATs this morning, though. She took motrin, and a heating patch with her.

I've been meaning to ask you..Have you ever watched the series 'Armywives'
on TV?
My wife is a friggin fanatic about watching it on Sunday nights when it is on..of course..I have to watch all the plots and turns...

851 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:22:20am

re: #843 MandyManners

I'll deliver him when you deliver this guy to me.

Bad MM bad.

852 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:22:37am

re: #831 JCM

Such "games" are defacto, temporary bans on the the right to purchase firearms.

Oh, my stars! The Clinton Administration rigged those shut-downs?

853 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:22:38am

re: #844 ArmyWife

I know - but on her way to the SATs the last time, she was rear ended totaling her car (she was fine, thank goodness). She was to shaken to take the test and we are running out of time here! I felt bad, and she will have one more opportunity if the scores are less than ideal, but she needed to get in there and see what it was like.

I somebody up there trying to tell her something? Golly.

854 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:22:44am

re: #827 realwest

Oh hell, Obama isn't afraid to tell EVERYONE everything he thinks they need to know - just ask 'em!
The nation has elected not just an "empty suit" but a world class putz,too boot.

Tell me how ya really feel. I like the way you think!

855 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:22:47am

re: #781 ArmyWife Good morning ArmyWife - spot on post! Thanks!
Other than suffering from ODS (Obama Depression Syndrome) like the rest of us, how are ya today?

856 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:23:35am

re: #855 realwest

Good morning ArmyWife - spot on post! Thanks!
Other than suffering from ODS (Obama Depression Syndrome) like the rest of us, how are ya today?

PTSDODS?

857 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:23:41am

re: #850 HoosierHoops

I've been meaning to ask you..Have you ever watched the series 'Armywives'
on TV?
My wife is a friggin fanatic about watching it on Sunday nights when it is on..of course..I have to watch all the plots and turns...

Same with mine. except she dvr's it. I don't watch.

858 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:23:42am

re: #850 HoosierHoops

No, I haven't. I don't watch TV at all. The last time I watched TV was the debates! I had actually started a book a few years ago based on the goings on of Army Wives, then I just stopped working on it. Sounds like I had a good idea!

859 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:23:51am

re: #849 opnion

11am in Chicago on WLS AM. It varies in different markets, but your local newspaper will have the listing.

It's on live across the country... so whatever time change you have from noon eastern, is what you need.

/it's really freaky being out west and getting Rush first thing in the morning...

860 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:24:18am

re: #856 Dustyvet

PTSDODS?

The Bean Counters at the VA ain't going to be happy...

861 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:24:19am

re: #853 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I told her there were easier ways to tell me she doesn't want to go away for school and instead do a semester at the community college!

862 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:24:29am

re: #837 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

No doubt and I decidely not one of those who claims they couldn't read the guy before he had a chance to screw things up as POTUS.

I'm just keeping a record of all the little things that happen, and when, during his term in office... as I think they will all disappear down the memory hole at some point.

If you're gonna' collect links, don't do as I did and add them to the 1,500 or so links I already had. You might also want to print out any articles you find. It's not easy to make hard-copies go *poof*.

863 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:25:09am

re: #840 Erik The Red

Monday to Friday 12pm til 3pm eastern.

Thanks!

864 Miss Trixie  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:25:09am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

We've a beautiful, bright and very frigid day here in the Great White North. I was just outside talking to a neighbor and now we have to wait for Spring for our words to thaw out.

Yeesh.

{realwest} Morning, sweets. *smoochie-smooch* How are you today, luv?

865 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:25:30am

Where is Sharmuta today? Not like her to not be around.

866 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:25:32am

re: #795 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Ah geez, LT, I'm sorry - can y'all shoot left-handed?!

867 Killer Tomato  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:26:08am

I see the POTUS has been busy the last couple of days.
La, dee, dah
Well, I'm off to the bank and shopping to increase my emergency supplies.
Have a wonderful day, all!

868 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:26:29am

re: #861 ArmyWife

I told her there were easier ways to tell me she doesn't want to go away for school and instead do a semester at the community college!

My oldest daughter went back to school last weekend. My younger is leaving in a few minutes to go back. Enjoy having them home while you can. It can get lonely.

869 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:26:34am

re: #797 opnion
Great point! Now how do we get Obama to mention Rush's radio station call letters?

870 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:26:40am

re: #863 MandyManners

Thanks!


Try here

871 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:26:42am

re: #841 vapig

Just yesterday I heard the Fairness Doctrine will be tucked into one of the new stimulous packages. It'll be under cover of some sort of nonsense about station ownership or such. They plan to chase talk radio into the internet and then they'll regulate the internet.

This sounds like a done deal and I don't see how it can be changed. I mean, who do we complain to and what difference will it make?

Scary times.

I envisioned a scenario in which CBBHO would prepare the ground for the FD by blaming Rush for spreading discord and derailing bi-partisanship. I had no idea it was already being addressed in the "stimulus" package.

872 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:27:01am

re: #862 MandyManners

If you're gonna' collect links, don't do as I did and add them to the 1,500 or so links I already had. You might also want to print out any articles you find. It's not easy to make hard-copies go *poof*.

Naw, I'm just recording them as date and event. I figure when the big memory hole occurs, the links will be no good anyway. Anybody reading the list that lived through this will have their memory jogged and if they know me at all, they'll know damn well I didn't "make it up".

873 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:27:20am

re: #841 vapig

Just yesterday I heard the Fairness Doctrine will be tucked into one of the new stimulous packages. It'll be under cover of some sort of nonsense about station ownership or such. They plan to chase talk radio into the internet and then they'll regulate the internet.

This sounds like a done deal and I don't see how it can be changed. I mean, who do we complain to and what difference will it make?

Scary times.

It needs to be coordinated. With the congress critters it carries more weight if it comes from their district. Therefore if all 535 of 'em get the same from even a few folks in their district it makes a difference.

Congress is making it harder to send them a message, they're moving away from public email accounts to web mail. Meaning you can't send one email addressed to all of them, you have to go to their web site and fill out a contact form and send you message that way. The auto response you get is an outbound mail box only.

Like so much else they it's the lefties who's lives revolve around activism while conservative lives revolve around faith, family and work. The noisy ones are the liberals.

We really need to get persistent, united to make a difference.

874 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:27:43am

re: #859 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

/it's really freaky being out west and getting Rush first thing in the morning...

When I go out east it is frustrating that LGF doesn't get new threads til mid day.

875 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:27:44am

re: #858 ArmyWife

No, I haven't. I don't watch TV at all. The last time I watched TV was the debates! I had actually started a book a few years ago based on the goings on of Army Wives, then I just stopped working on it. Sounds like I had a goodGreat idea!


Write the book!

876 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:27:50am

re: #845 jwb7605

Good morning Mandy!
Let me annoy you right away by saying that with a few notable exceptions, determining RINOS is like determining "innocents" in Palestine.

Unless under fire, they all look alike.

The non-RINO's are out there. It's up to us to find them and hound them. Well, some RINO's could be brought back to the fold.

877 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:27:50am

re: #866 realwest

Ah geez, LT, I'm sorry - can y'all shoot left-handed?!

Not well enough to brag about. I'll stick to handguns...

878 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:27:58am

re: #809 ArmyWife

Which is fine, and supports my initial argument - Obama isn't all that brilliant when left to his own devices. That is his Achilles heel and we must shine the spotlight on it.

He is really not that bright. I think that his superior intellect is a myth.
By his own words, he was doing lots of grass, alchohol & cocaine in high school & was a poor student. He still get's an academic scholarship to Occidental U in Califoria, seques to Columbia& Voila becomes president of Law Review at Harvard & never submits an article.

879 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:28:41am

re: #803 opnion Ph yeah, blood work came back and showed things are progressively getting worse.
BUT WAIT! There's also, apparently,little hope at the end of the rainbow, too.

880 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:28:42am

re: #864 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

We've a beautiful, bright and very frigid day here in the Great White North. I was just outside talking to a neighbor and now we have to wait for Spring for our words to thaw out.

Yeesh.

{realwest} Morning, sweets. *smoochie-smooch* How are you today, luv?

{Miss Trixie} Hope today finds you well..and warm

881 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:28:59am

re: #874 karmic_inquisitor

When I go out east it is frustrating that LGF doesn't get new threads til mid day.

Shit come join me in Africa. The fun only starts when I am in bed.

882 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:29:20am

Later all! Work to do...

883 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:29:47am

Larry the gross King said his eight year old son wishes he were black. He says "black is in."

884 Unakite  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:29:55am

Good morning. I just finished reading the local fish wrapper, and if I read one more story about how the One is going to re-establish America's moral authority I think I'll puke.

That is all.

885 Miss Trixie  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:30:11am

Dusty

*applause*

886 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:30:49am

re: #848 Nevergiveup

Well be of good cheer. Usually any attempt at censorship does back fire.

You're assuming it will be reported. I think our MFM (thanks Mandy!) has made it clear who they're in the tank for.

Sorry - I know I'm being gloomy, but the "One's" first couple days in office has really shaken me.

887 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:30:51am

re: #870 Erik The Red

Try here

Bookmarked!

888 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:31:12am

re: #825 ArmyWife
See # 846

Sorry. Quoted the wrong comment.
We're rooting for yoor daughter.

889 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:31:17am

re: #821 Dustyvet
Uh, say Dusty, didja get my second e-mail?

890 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:31:34am

Image: ALC_041_2col_bw.jpg
Think the stimulis package will work? Look at this.

891 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:31:43am

re: #885 Miss Trixie

Dusty

*applause*

aww shucks...:)

892 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:31:50am

re: #872 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Naw, I'm just recording them as date and event. I figure when the big memory hole occurs, the links will be no good anyway. Anybody reading the list that lived through this will have their memory jogged and if they know me at all, they'll know damn well I didn't "make it up".

Not all MFM outlets will wipe their databases clean.

893 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:32:01am

re: #868 Nevergiveup

This will be hard on me. I just can't believe I am actually at this point!

894 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:32:23am

re: #869 realwest

Great point! Now how do we get Obama to mention Rush's radio station call letters?

Do you have any idea how many that is...
500+

895 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:32:47am

re: #889 realwest

Uh, say Dusty, didja get my second e-mail?

Yes, and sent one back...thanks...

896 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:32:49am

re: #873 JCM

It needs to be coordinated. With the congress critters it carries more weight if it comes from their district. Therefore if all 535 of 'em get the same from even a few folks in their district it makes a difference.

Congress is making it harder to send them a message, they're moving away from public email accounts to web mail. Meaning you can't send one email addressed to all of them, you have to go to their web site and fill out a contact form and send you message that way. The auto response you get is an outbound mail box only.

Like so much else they it's the lefties who's lives revolve around activism while conservative lives revolve around faith, family and work. The noisy ones are the liberals.

We really need to get persistent, united to make a difference.

Let's roll.

897 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:33:11am

re: #878 opnion

That is the real mystery, isn't it? I'd love someone to sniff around that one and find out who, or what, got that worked out.

898 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:33:15am

re: #871 MandyManners

I envisioned a scenario in which CBBHO would prepare the ground for the FD by blaming Rush for spreading discord and derailing bi-partisanship. I had no idea it was already being addressed in the "stimulus" package.

It makes sense tho. Those things are so huge that no one will read through them - they'll just sign off on it and the deed will be done.

899 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:33:43am

re: #896 MandyManners

I'm in. All letters on a specific date? Mailed, faxed and emailed?

900 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:33:49am

re: #889 realwest

Uh, say Dusty, didja get my second e-mail?

Dang it Realwest! there is a lizard that lives near you that wants your email address..You leave minutes before they post.. I have the addy at work and will send it to you monday..I keep forgetting..

901 jacksontn  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:34:08am

re: #883 ciaospirit

Larry the gross King said his eight year old son wishes he were black. He says "black is in."

So was lesbian chic ...didn't last long ...because in fact most lesbians do not (to most men's disappointment) look like the lesbians in porno ...all fads fade ...eventually reality sets in ...

Good Morning Lizards ...

902 BBev  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:34:10am

Good mornin all. I have a question about windows 7. Has anyone here down loaded it? Have there been any problems and do I need to save on a separate drive what I have saved here on this computer?

903 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:34:23am

re: #886 vapig

You're assuming it will be reported. I think our MFM (thanks Mandy!) has made it clear who they're in the tank for.

Sorry - I know I'm being gloomy, but the "One's" first couple days in office has really shaken me.

Don't let the CommieBastard grind you down!

WOLVERINES!

904 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:34:41am

re: #872 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Naw, I'm just recording them as date and event. I figure when the big memory hole occurs, the links will be no good anyway. Anybody reading the list that lived through this will have their memory jogged and if they know me at all, they'll know damn well I didn't "make it up".

You can save either a screen shot or the even the web page. Then when it disappears send it to Charles or post it on your own blog.

There are no memory holes on the innnerwebz.

905 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:35:04am

re: #903 MandyManners

WOLVERINES!

You rang?

906 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:35:05am

re: #898 vapig

It makes sense tho. Those things are so huge that no one will read through them - they'll just sign off on it and the deed will be done.

Won't the bills be on-line?

907 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:35:13am

re: #834 karmic_inquisitor
Good morning - didja notice that they used the word "Militants" too - not civilians or any such tripe!
Yea, the mighty Obama's mind rays will get us into a war with a nuclear armed Pakistan - and Obama will be surprised at that, too.

908 Miss Trixie  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:35:25am

re: #881 Erik The Red

Shit come join me in Africa. The fun only starts when I am in bed.

TMI! TMI! :P

Hoosier - Hello dere and I hope you're having a good day. We'll be fine, thanks. Lil Miss has her yearly appointment with the vet this afternoon - only she don't know it.

*snicker* :P

909 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:35:35am

re: #886 vapig

You're assuming it will be reported. I think our MFM (thanks Mandy!) has made it clear who they're in the tank for.

Sorry - I know I'm being gloomy, but the "One's" first couple days in office has really shaken me.

I'm stirred, not shaken. He is riding for a fall. A big, loud thud.

910 BBev  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:35:55am

re: #907 realwest

Good morning Real

911 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:35:58am

re: #899 ArmyWife

I'm in. All letters on a specific date? Mailed, faxed and emailed?

That might be too obvious but, CBBHO's being obvious in his drive to trash America.

912 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:36:01am

re: #901 jacksontn

So was lesbian chic ...didn't last long ...because in fact most lesbians do not (to most men's disappointment) look like the lesbians in porno ...all fads fade ...eventually reality sets in ...

Good Morning Lizards ...

LK is a asshole. I haven't watched the old prune in years.

913 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:36:05am

re: #884 Unakite

Good morning. I just finished reading the local fish wrapper, and if I read one more story about how the One is going to re-establish America's moral authority I think I'll puke.

That is all.

How racist is that. They're projecting he has moral authority and moral superiority because he's black. Kwame Kilpatrick is black. Franklin Raines is black. So how does that work exactly?

914 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:36:32am

re: #908 Miss Trixie

TMI! TMI! :P

Hoosier - Hello dere and I hope you're having a good day. We'll be fine, thanks. Lil Miss has her yearly appointment with the vet this afternoon - only she don't know it.

*snicker* :P

LOL

915 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:36:57am

re: #869 realwest

Great point! Now how do we get Obama to mention Rush's radio station call letters?

Ya know, he is almost doofus enough to do it.

916 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:37:00am

re: #841 vapig Sorry, but I don't understand why they'd hide it; they have the majorities in both houses of congress to pass it as a stand alone measure.

917 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:38:05am

re: #886 vapig

You're assuming it will be reported. I think our MFM (thanks Mandy!) has made it clear who they're in the tank for.

Sorry - I know I'm being gloomy, but the "One's" first couple days in office has really shaken me.

Good morning, everyone!

vapig - I'm shaken too.

I had hoped that security briefings he receives as president would have changed his mind on some things.

It appears to have been wishful thinking on my part.

918 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:38:33am

re: #879 realwest

Ph yeah, blood work came back and showed things are progressively getting worse.
BUT WAIT! There's also, apparently,little hope at the end of the rainbow, too.

I know that you are hanging tough. I do not have an MD, but I see a good outcome for you.

919 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:38:35am

re: #902 BBev

Good mornin all. I have a question about windows 7. Has anyone here down loaded it? Have there been any problems and do I need to save on a separate drive what I have saved here on this computer?

Hey! First of all..Windows 7 is Beta..I have learned one thing about MS over the years..from windows 3.1 till now..NEVER EVER F'N EVER load a beta OS on your main computer..you can play with it as much as you want on a secondary computer...Send in bug reports all day long..But NEVER use it on your main computer..
Lawd..I got stories...
Regards

920 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:38:40am

Contact list Senators 111th Congress.

Contact list Representatives 111th Congress.

I'm compiling an list with actual email for the Senate. It will be there where legislation can be blocked.

921 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:38:48am

re: #899 ArmyWife

I'm in. All letters on a specific date? Mailed, faxed and emailed?

Me, too.

922 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:39:08am

re: #903 MandyManners

Don't let the CommieBastard grind you down!

WOLVERINES!

Thanks! Might be my proximity to the beast. I'm just across the river from the cesspool. In fact, I start my new job next week on Pennsylvania Ave. Gross!

923 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:39:16am

re: #854 opnion Nah I always hold back cause, ya know, I don't want anyone to cherry pick my comments and get Charles in trouble!

924 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:39:43am

re: #905 Mich-again

You rang?

I was gonna' link to Silent Running but, YouTube has removed it.

925 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:40:12am
926 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:40:31am

re: #856 DustyvetYeah, but too long for folks to get it consistently right, let's just go with ODS!

927 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:40:36am

re: #911 MandyManners

I think obvious is ok - they think we aren't capable of an organized ground swell. This proves we are, and would point out quite loudly we are serious and this is just the start.

928 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:40:50am

re: #913 ciaospirit

How racist is that. They're projecting he has moral authority and moral superiority because he's black. Kwame Kilpatrick is black. Franklin Raines is black. So how does that work exactly?

Does the noble savage model have anything to do with it?

929 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:41:18am

re: #913 ciaospirit

No its more likely they are pleased that Obama is dismantling anti-terror intelligence operations. It makes moonbats feel warm and happy to know the CIA isn't eavesdropping on terrorists.

930 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:41:21am

re: #925 Bobblehead

Chia Obama LOL

The contents of the head accurately portrayed.

931 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:41:26am

re: #916 realwest

Sorry, but I don't understand why they'd hide it; they have the majorities in both houses of congress to pass it as a stand alone measure.

If folks like Rush were given a heads up they'd be able to mobilize their base - remember the shamnesty debacle? So much easier and quieter just to make it a fait accompli.

932 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:41:30am

re: #860 Dustyvet
They ain't EVER happy - and especially not when they have to THINK.

933 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:41:33am

re: #920 JCM

Contact list Senators 111th Congress.

Contact list Representatives 111th Congress.

I'm compiling an list with actual email for the Senate. It will be there where legislation can be blocked.

Thanks. Good links.

934 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:42:02am

re: #922 vapig

Thanks! Might be my proximity to the beast. I'm just across the river from the cesspool. In fact, I start my new job next week on Pennsylvania Ave. Gross!

Remember how down-trodden, weary and scared Frodo and Sam grew as they got closer to Mordor?

935 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:42:17am

President Obama is now exhorting all of us mean, selfish Americans to get into voluntarism.
Capital Idea & i suggest that we all get involved volunteering for the Republican opposition & get a good candidate this time & make Barry a one termer.

936 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:43:14am

re: #927 ArmyWife

I think obvious is ok - they think we aren't capable of an organized ground swell. This proves we are, and would point out quite loudly we are serious and this is just the start.

I'm with you. Conservatives might be busy with working and raising families to protest in the street but, we can organize.

937 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:43:34am

re: #864 {Miss Trixie} Good morning gorgeous and *smooches* back to ou! I'm doing ok, thank you kindly - so it's a tad cold up where you live?
I keep telling ya to move down to North Carolina! You and Lil Miss could handle our 6 weeks of winter with a smile!

938 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:44:20am

re: #929 Mich-again

No its more likely they are pleased that Obama is dismantling anti-terror intelligence operations. It makes moonbats feel warm and happy to know the CIA isn't eavesdropping on terrorists.

I think part of it is that some are motivated by the desire to see us hurt again.

939 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:44:34am

Hey reine, my sister has gotten a lot of help with that email you sent me. Thank you.

940 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:45:02am

re: #931 vapig

If folks like Rush were given a heads up they'd be able to mobilize their base - remember the shamnesty debacle? So much easier and quieter just to make it a fait accompli.

That was a massive bitch-slap.

941 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:45:05am

re: #926 realwest

Yeah, but too long for folks to get it consistently right, let's just go with ODS!


OK...:)

942 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:45:36am

re: #939 Erik The Red

Hey reine, my sister has gotten a lot of help with that email you sent me. Thank you.

Oh, I'm glad to hear it!

943 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:45:44am

*Yawn* Morning, everyone. I let myself sleep in, and now I'm waiting for the humidity level to get high enough in the house (thanks to boiling water) so I can get some cleaning done without gasping for air at the end.

But I'm being such a bum; you folks have been quite busy this morning on the thread! I'm still needing some more breakfast.

944 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:45:59am

Team - we need a name for this. I will post all the links, and the date we want this to happen on my blog - not because it will get a huge amount of traffic there, but so it's all contained in one spot. Maybe JWF would think about putting it up on his site once we have it all together for the traffic piece we need?

So, creative honco lizard geniuses, what is this Operation XXX?

945 Sheepdogess  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:46:06am

em>re: #782 n in wi

One dem, one commie. The commie won.

From the pen of the commies ghostwriter commie friend, William Ayers, rapist and psychopath

"Our intention is to disrupt the empire, to incapacitate it, to put pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning against the people of the world, to join the world struggle, to attack from the inside.
The only path to the final defeat of imperialism and the building of socialism is revolutionary war".

[Link: www.zombietime.com...]

946 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:46:50am

re: #944 ArmyWife

Team - we need a name for this. I will post all the links, and the date we want this to happen on my blog - not because it will get a huge amount of traffic there, but so it's all contained in one spot. Maybe JWF would think about putting it up on his site once we have it all together for the traffic piece we need?

So, creative honco lizard geniuses, what is this Operation XXX?

I'm in!
But I just got here . . . what are we doing, exactly?

947 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:47:05am

re: #942 reine.de.tout

Doll, I believe it's your turn to play, yes? Are you going to have a chance today? If not, that gives me more time to research the board. :D

948 Mich-again  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:47:08am

Rush should respond by having a Obama sound-alike come on the show every day and say dumb things or actual Obama quotes, but I repeat myself.

Obama got to where he got by following Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. Obama's problem now is that once you are in power, they don't work for you anymore, they work against you. Especially Rule #5..

RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)

949 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:47:14am

re: #894 JCM
Well crap.
nevermind.

950 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:47:30am

re: #946 reine.de.tout

I'm in!
But I just got here . . . what are we doing, exactly?

Me too...

951 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:47:31am

re: #943 vxbush

*Yawn* Morning, everyone. I let myself sleep in, and now I'm waiting for the humidity level to get high enough in the house (thanks to boiling water) so I can get some cleaning done without gasping for air at the end.

But I'm being such a bum; you folks have been quite busy this morning on the thread! I'm still needing some more breakfast.

I woke up before dawn because I'm back in the routine. I'd got out of it during the last of the Christmas vacation.

952 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:47:44am

re: #947 vxbush

Doll, I believe it's your turn to play, yes? Are you going to have a chance today? If not, that gives me more time to research the board. :D

I don't have the e-mail! Yes, I always have time to play.


I'll go check, sorry.

953 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:47:48am

re: #936 MandyManners

I'm with you. Conservatives might be busy with working and raising families to protest in the street but, we can organize.

MONEY ,,, as opponents to a sittting office holder,, one of THE biggest things a candidate needs is MONEY

wha,, you think Obamas winning is a coincidence that he had almost twice as much as McCain to spend!?!?!)

954 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:48:11am

re: #944 ArmyWife

Team - we need a name for this. I will post all the links, and the date we want this to happen on my blog - not because it will get a huge amount of traffic there, but so it's all contained in one spot. Maybe JWF would think about putting it up on his site once we have it all together for the traffic piece we need?

So, creative honco lizard geniuses, what is this Operation XXX?

Sounds marvelous.

Operation Fight Back?

955 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:48:38am

re: #934 MandyManners

Remember how down-trodden, weary and scared Frodo and Sam grew as they got closer to Mordor?

LOL! Yeah - I'm just not sure I'm as brave as they are. One good thing though, I live in Virginia and am allowed to pack heat. Just can't carry it across the river to DC.

OH - BTW, can't find a link (too easy - can't report on THIS) but DC has been quietly re-enacting all their anti-gun bans again, despite the SCOTUS decision. They figure they have an ally in the WH now who will back them up.

956 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:49:01am

re: #900 HoosierHoops
I don't get that Hoops - first of all my nic is in blue and it's easy enough to use LGF safemail? Who is this lizard your're taling about (since nics aren't real names, you can tell me or e-mail me!)?

957 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:49:03am

You know what I have noticed about these Saturday morning threads, all of the real smart , good looking Lizards show up. Why is that?

958 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:49:14am

re: #944 ArmyWife

Team - we need a name for this. I will post all the links, and the date we want this to happen on my blog - not because it will get a huge amount of traffic there, but so it's all contained in one spot. Maybe JWF would think about putting it up on his site once we have it all together for the traffic piece we need?

So, creative honco lizard geniuses, what is this Operation XXX?

Recreate '94. Heh.

959 BBev  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:49:24am

re: #919 HoosierHoops

Thank you, I am not going to down load it.

960 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:49:42am

re: #957 opnion

You know what I have noticed about these Saturday morning threads, all of the real smart , good looking Lizards show up. Why is that?

You wouldn't say that if you could see me, sitting here in my jammies.

Just sayin'.

961 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:49:49am

re: #957 opnion

You know what I have noticed about these Saturday morning threads, all of the real smart , good looking Lizards show up. Why is that?

oh ,, sorry ,,, I'll leave !

962 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:49:50am

re: #948 Mich-again

Rush should respond by having a Obama sound-alike come on the show every day and say dumb things or actual Obama quotes, but I repeat myself.

Obama got to where he got by following Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. Obama's problem now is that once you are in power, they don't work for you anymore, they work against you. Especially Rule #5..

That would be oh-so funny!

What tools could CBBHO to block us from using Alinksy's rules?

963 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:49:57am

re: #902 BBev
Morning BBev - no clue at all about Windows 7, sorry.
How are y'all doing today?

964 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:50:03am

Vatican officials said Saturday they were disappointed by US President Barack Obama's decision to end a ban on federal funding for international groups that perform abortions or provide information on them.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

"if this is one of President Obama's first acts, I have to say, in all due respect, that we're heading quickly toward disappointment."

Welcome to the party Pal!

965 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:50:15am

Anybody ever hear of somebody named Neal Boortz?

966 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:50:24am
967 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:50:30am

re: #953 sattv4u2

MONEY ,,, as opponents to a sittting office holder,, one of THE biggest things a candidate needs is MONEY

wha,, you think Obamas winning is a coincidence that he had almost twice as much as McCain to spend!?!?!)

He started in April, 2007.

968 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:51:08am

re: #954 MandyManners

Sounds marvelous.

Operation Fight Back?

I liked your other one. Operation Bitch Slap.

969 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:51:10am

re: #965 Dustyvet

Anybody ever hear of somebody named Neal Boortz?

He's been a talk host in Atlanta for 40 years ,,, syndicated about 15-20 years ago ,,

970 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:51:25am
971 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:51:34am

re: #965 Dustyvet

Anybody ever hear of somebody named Neal Boortz?

yes

972 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:51:36am

902 BBev

If you install Windows 7, you'll want to do it on a machine where you don't mind it running, and you should *definitely* make a backup of your files while you are using it. You never know--because it's beta--whether it might at some point seriously crash and burn. I'm not saying it will, as it is reported to be one of the better betas that MS has come out with. But you must be prepared at all times, just in case.

973 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:51:46am

re: #955 vapig

LOL! Yeah - I'm just not sure I'm as brave as they are. One good thing though, I live in Virginia and am allowed to pack heat. Just can't carry it across the river to DC.

OH - BTW, can't find a link (too easy - can't report on THIS) but DC has been quietly re-enacting all their anti-gun bans again, despite the SCOTUS decision. They figure they have an ally in the WH now who will back them up.

I wonder if OR knows of any links.

Remember, Frodo and Sam were just ordinary Hobbits but rose to the challenge.

974 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:52:02am

re: #944 ArmyWife

Team - we need a name for this. I will post all the links, and the date we want this to happen on my blog - not because it will get a huge amount of traffic there, but so it's all contained in one spot. Maybe JWF would think about putting it up on his site once we have it all together for the traffic piece we need?

So, creative honco lizard geniuses, what is this Operation XXX?

Speaking of the Jammie man..this is quite amusing:
High Comedy: NY Democrats Flip Out Seeing Gillibrand Next to Al D'Amato

975 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:52:10am

re: #967 MandyManners

He started in April, 2007.

wouldn;t have mattered if he started in 1997. MONEY is the key!

976 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:52:11am

re: #960 vxbush

You wouldn't say that if you could see me, sitting here in my jammies.

Just sayin'.


Ok, but your smart?

977 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:52:14am

re: #918 opnionI sure hope those glasses you're wearing aren't rose tinted! LOL!
Thank you my friend, I do appreciate it.

978 BBev  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:52:14am

re: #963 realwest

Sitting back and resting my back, it was a hard week

979 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:52:17am

re: #957 opnion

You know what I have noticed about these Saturday morning threads, all of the real smart , good looking Lizards show up. Why is that?

Thanks opnion.

980 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:52:19am

re: #940 MandyManners

That was a massive bitch-slap.

Of course it was! Which is precisely why they want to avoid a repeat.

Think about it - what's easier? The ability to block something or the massive procedures to undo something once it's in place? The first fairness doctrine was in place for over 50 years.

981 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:52:37am

re: #968 Erik The Red

I liked your other one. Operation Bitch Slap.

Operation Waffle Iron

982 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:52:43am

re: #947 vxbush

Doll, I believe it's your turn to play, yes? Are you going to have a chance today? If not, that gives me more time to research the board. :D

Just played.

983 BBev  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:53:02am

re: #972 vxbush

Thank You

984 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:53:06am

re: #976 opnion

Ok, but your smart?

Well, above average.

985 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:53:12am

re: #956 realwest

I don't get that Hoops - first of all my nic is in blue and it's easy enough to use LGF safemail? Who is this lizard your're taling about (since nics aren't real names, you can tell me or e-mail me!)?

You know..I got the nic and link at work..Some girl lizard that lives near by and has a heart of gold...I'll try to remember her nic...But I am in movie mode right now and mama finally got up to fix breakfast...I'll be outie soon

986 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:53:15am

re: #920 JCM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JCM!

987 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:53:22am

re: #974 Bobblehead

Speaking of the Jammie man..this is quite amusing:
High Comedy: NY Democrats Flip Out Seeing Gillibrand Next to Al D'Amato


Well speaking for right thinking people from NJ. Man do we miss Al.

988 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:53:24am

re: #936 MandyManners

Agreed - but we can send a letter. A form letter might not get read, but a template would allow people to customize and it would help those like us who are super busy at work, etc. I don't think we need to protest in the street, we can make their lives more difficult by having their staff weed through mounds of mail.

989 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:53:28am

re: #969 sattv4u2

He's been a talk host in Atlanta for 40 years ,,, syndicated about 15-20 years ago ,,

Thanks I was just given one of his books...

990 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:53:30am

re: #944 ArmyWife

Team - we need a name for this. I will post all the links, and the date we want this to happen on my blog - not because it will get a huge amount of traffic there, but so it's all contained in one spot. Maybe JWF would think about putting it up on his site once we have it all together for the traffic piece we need?

So, creative honco lizard geniuses, what is this Operation XXX?

Operation I Miss W.

991 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:53:32am

re: #966 ploome hineni

The USMC Freedom is not Free calendar site is no longer on-line.

992 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:53:44am

re: #961 sattv4u2

oh ,, sorry ,,, I'll leave !

No, no wait! We can't see each other.

993 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:54:03am

re: #982 reine.de.tout

Just played.

I got your message. Sneaky.

994 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:54:05am

re: #968 Erik The Red

I liked your other one. Operation Bitch Slap.

That might turn off some people.

995 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:55:01am

re: #977 realwest

I sure hope those glasses you're wearing aren't rose tinted! LOL!
Thank you my friend, I do appreciate it.

De nada, the elite are here. Right? I mean I am right, right?

996 Miss Trixie  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:55:05am

re: #937 realwest

Good morning gorgeous and *smooches* back to ou! I'm doing ok, thank you kindly - so it's a tad cold up where you live?
I keep telling ya to move down to North Carolina! You and Lil Miss could handle our 6 weeks of winter with a smile!

OH! You know it darls. :D I'll have to talk to you later - it's time for some brekkie, a long soaky shower then to stuff Lil Miss in her sneaux-suit for her appointment.

If she's not too snarky, I'll see if I can get some pics ... :D

997 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:55:08am

re: #975 sattv4u2

wouldn;t have mattered if he started in 1997. MONEY is the key!

We don't need money for this phase of the operation.

998 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:55:39am

re: #931 vapig Well the Dem majorities have increased since the shamnesty debate, but I get your point.

999 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:55:53am
Thanks I was just given one of his books...

One of the Fair Tax ones? (he's a major force behind the national sales tax ,,, Rep John Linder is the author) 2 books RE; the Fair Tax. 1st one explains it, 2nd one deals with the myths and criticisms that followed

1000 nyc redneck  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:55:57am

it is so telling, that so soon, and w/ such confidence, the o admonishes republicans not to listen to rush.
this is how it starts. dictators try to silence the opposition immediately.
look at history. who has allowed dissent?
stalin, mugabe, hitler?
it is very chilling when the potus makes noise abt. controlling our freedom of speech.
he is looking very dangerous.

1001 JacksonTn  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:56:02am

re: #988 ArmyWife

Agreed - but we can send a letter. A form letter might not get read, but a template would allow people to customize and it would help those like us who are super busy at work, etc. I don't think we need to protest in the street, we can make their lives more difficult by having their staff weed through mounds of mail.

Faxing is great ...when so many fax to a number it makes them have to put more paper in their fax machines ...the PUMAs call it prowling when everybody gets together on the same issue ...check out their site sometime and they have very coordinated ways to get people on the same page ...

1002 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:56:17am

re: #979 Erik The Red

Thanks opnion.

Just truthin.

1003 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:56:30am

re: #968 Erik The Red

I liked your other one. Operation Bitch Slap.

Oh! Oh! I vote for that one! Operation Bitch Slap!

1004 SlartyBartfast  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:56:35am

re: #878 opnion

He is really not that bright. I think that his superior intellect is a myth.
By his own words, he was doing lots of grass, alchohol & cocaine in high school & was a poor student. He still get's an academic scholarship to Occidental U in Califoria, seques to Columbia& Voila becomes president of Law Review at Harvard & never submits an article.

Indeed! I don't think he's had an independent thought in his life! Since the advent of Obama, I've seriously wondered if it's possible to get a law degree simply by regurgitating case law.

Did anyone see President Obama signing the executive order to close Guantanamo? He had to ask the White House counsel Greg Craig what was in the order! (See video time 00:58.)

Pathetic! We are so screwed...

1005 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:56:56am

re: #1000 nyc redneck

it is so telling, that so soon, and w/ such confidence, the o admonishes republicans not to listen to rush.
this is how it starts. dictators try to silence the opposition immediately.
look at history. who has allowed dissent?
stalin, mugabe, hitler?
it is very chilling when the potus makes noise abt. controlling our freedom of speech.
he is looking very dangerous.

I think he realizes the power of Rush and is scared by it. Personally, if he had said that to me, I would have asked my staff to invite Rush to my office to talk to him in person. :D

1006 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:57:08am

re: #999 sattv4u2

One of the Fair Tax ones? (he's a major force behind the national sales tax ,,, Rep John Linder is the author) 2 books RE; the Fair Tax. 1st one explains it, 2nd one deals with the myths and criticisms that followed

Title is "Somebody's got to say it"

1007 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:57:12am

re: #944 ArmyWife

Team - we need a name for this. I will post all the links, and the date we want this to happen on my blog - not because it will get a huge amount of traffic there, but so it's all contained in one spot. Maybe JWF would think about putting it up on his site once we have it all together for the traffic piece we need?

So, creative honco lizard geniuses, what is this Operation XXX?

POPCORN [as opposed to ACORN]
People Of Principle Concerned with Obama's Radical Notions

1008 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:57:13am

re: #970 ploome hineni

da reine is wonderful

:D

{ploomie}
But of course.
Would you expect anything less?

COOKBOOK UPDATE
everyone:
I've heard from FlakMusic who has the files. He is checking everything over, getting his "ducks in a row" as he put it, making sure the files meet the upload requirements.

So hopefully very soon we will have this ready for sale.

1009 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:57:24am

re: #997 MandyManners

We don't need money for this phase of the operation.

Thats right. Now the The One os in we don't have to pay for the interwebby connections anymore!

//

1010 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:57:45am

re: #980 vapig

Of course it was! Which is precisely why they want to avoid a repeat.

Think about it - what's easier? The ability to block something or the massive procedures to undo something once it's in place? The first fairness doctrine was in place for over 50 years.

The thing about talk radio is that it goes out over a finite amount of air waves owned by the public. However, that does not mean that the Right should be silenced just because the Left cannot get the same amount of listeners.

That ownership issue flies out the window with the Internet, though.

1011 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:57:51am

re: #1007 n in wi

POPCORN [as opposed to ACORN]
People Of Principle Concerned with Obama's Radical Notions

Good one...

1012 BryanS  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:57:53am

re: #964 Nevergiveup

The Democrats view a single woman as having the absolute right to have children or not to--and their policy is to pay for them. Their policy is to give women a right to chose to abort their pregnancy, but no responsibility to pay the cost of caring for a child for choosing to have one out of wedlock.

Without explicitly stating the policy, the Democrats have made single motherhood a civil right! These policies more than anything else are the reason for most o our social ills.

1013 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:57:57am

re: #1003 vapig

Oh! Oh! I vote for that one! Operation Bitch Slap!

Gs up
Hos down

1014 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:58:01am

re: #1007 n in wi

POPCORN [as opposed to ACORN]
People Of Principle Concerned with Obama's Radical Notions

OOH!
Me likey!

1015 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:58:19am

re: #1008 reine.de.tout

{ploomie}
But of course.
Would you expect anything less?

COOKBOOK UPDATE
everyone:
I've heard from FlakMusic who has the files. He is checking everything over, getting his "ducks in a row" as he put it, making sure the files meet the upload requirements.

So hopefully very soon we will have this ready for sale.

YAY!

1016 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:58:25am

re: #1003 vapig

I like it too, but we need something that can go viral on a lot of sites. Some might not see the humor in that one (but it's funny to me!).

1017 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:58:42am

re: #988 ArmyWife

Agreed - but we can send a letter. A form letter might not get read, but a template would allow people to customize and it would help those like us who are super busy at work, etc. I don't think we need to protest in the street, we can make their lives more difficult by having their staff weed through mounds of mail.

I like the idea of a flexible, cutomizable template.

1018 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:58:51am

re: #1016 ArmyWife

I like it too, but we need something that can go viral on a lot of sites. Some might not see the humor in that one (but it's funny to me!).

I'm still waiting to know what it is we're doing.

1019 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:59:06am

Operation uh

1020 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:59:14am

re: #1007 n in wi

That is great on so many levels! We are all talking about grabbing popcorn and watching the impending doom!

1021 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:59:34am

gah...cat laying on arms. can barely type. great timing, fur face.

1022 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:59:45am

re: #1000 nyc redneck

it is so telling, that so soon, and w/ such confidence, the o admonishes republicans not to listen to rush.
this is how it starts. dictators try to silence the opposition immediately.
look at history. who has allowed dissent?
stalin, mugabe, hitler?
it is very chilling when the potus makes noise abt. controlling our freedom of speech.
he is looking very dangerous.

The key difference is that those nations do not have our history of freedom.

1023 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 7:59:46am

re: #1004 SlartyBartfast

Indeed! I don't think he's had an independent thought in his life! Since the advent of Obama, I've seriously wondered if it's possible to get a law degree simply by regurgitating case law.

Did anyone see President Obama signing the executive order to close Guantanamo? He had to ask the White House counsel Greg Craig what was in the order! (See video time 00:58.)

Pathetic! We are so screwed...


It is not a sign of sophisticated nuance to stammer as. Obama does.
It signals that your brain is not keeping up.
Indeed we are screwed

1024 SurferDoc  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:00:07am

POPCORN works for me.

1025 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:00:09am

Finally Orville Reddenbacher is getting the credit he deserves

1026 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:00:14am

re: #1007 n in wi

POPCORN [as opposed to ACORN]
People Of Principle Concerned with Obama's Radical Notions

Aka Operation Bitch Slap

1027 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:00:37am

re: #1001 JacksonTn

Faxing is great ...when so many fax to a number it makes them have to put more paper in their fax machines ...the PUMAs call it prowling when everybody gets together on the same issue ...check out their site sometime and they have very coordinated ways to get people on the same page ...

Now, that's a good idea.

1028 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:00:43am

re: #955 vapig
Doesn't matter if they have an ally in the WH - if they go back to where they were with Heller, they will be in contempt of SCOTUS and even Obama can't allow that.

1029 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:01:23am

re: #1008 reine.de.tout

{ploomie}
But of course.
Would you expect anything less?

COOKBOOK UPDATE
everyone:
I've heard from FlakMusic who has the files. He is checking everything over, getting his "ducks in a row" as he put it, making sure the files meet the upload requirements.

So hopefully very soon we will have this ready for sale.

Waiting with saliva dripping down my chin

1030 CIA Reject  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:01:31am

Good morning to all my Comrades here in the land of Hopenchange where there are only 1457 days, 50 minutes and 30 seconds before we can go back to living in America.

...but who's counting.

On a related note, does anybody know whether or not you need to file an Environmental Impact Statement before you can compost unicorn manure? This thing showed up here Tuesday afternoon and all it's done is eat Twinkies and sh*t all over the place.

1031 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:01:46am
1032 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:01:52am

re: #1021 vxbush

gah...cat laying on arms. can barely type. great timing, fur face.

1033 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:02:00am

re: #1019 shug

Operation uh

I like that one. Conveys the emptiness of liberal ideas.

1034 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:02:10am

re: #1016 ArmyWife

I like it too, but we need something that can go viral on a lot of sites. Some might not see the humor in that one (but it's funny to me!).

There are some conservative sites where it would go over like a lead balloon.

1035 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:02:19am

re: #1018 reine.de.tout

We are writing letters to protest Obama's display of stupidity, on a specific date - letting congress critters know we don't want the stimulus package, we want our country to remain free (which means terrorists keep their butts in gitmo), we don't support torture, but are just fine with "high stress" operations (military guys will know what that means), etc. etc. Just what POPCORN stands for - taking back our country. It would also help the Republicans know where their base truly is, instead of guessing, which is what they seem to be doing right now.

This will be phase 1.

1036 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:02:43am

FNC is reporting that Harry Reid snapped at a reporter yesterday, "Obama is not my boss."
Wait until Reid gets a visit from da Chicaga organization.

1037 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:02:48am

re: #944 ArmyWife

Team - we need a name for this. I will post all the links, and the date we want this to happen on my blog - not because it will get a huge amount of traffic there, but so it's all contained in one spot. Maybe JWF would think about putting it up on his site once we have it all together for the traffic piece we need?

So, creative honco lizard geniuses, what is this Operation XXX?

Operation Honco!
;-)

1038 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:02:57am

re: #957 opnion
It's cause all of the real smart , good looking Lizards recongize the importance of getting ideas out there and this is the best time for many lizard to make thoughtful, detailed comments about things.
Also,it probably means that all of the real smart , good looking Lizards didn't get dates on Friday night!
:)

1039 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:03:21am

re: #1035 ArmyWife

We are writing letters to protest Obama's display of stupidity, on a specific date - letting congress critters know we don't want the stimulus package, we want our country to remain free (which means terrorists keep their butts in gitmo), we don't support torture, but are just fine with "high stress" operations (military guys will know what that means), etc. etc. Just what POPCORN stands for - taking back our country. It would also help the Republicans know where their base truly is, instead of guessing, which is what they seem to be doing right now.

This will be phase 1.

OK, thought it was something like that.
I like. I'm in, of course.
Better than sitting here stewing.
I cannot stand the sound of his voice. I cringe everytime I hear him speak.

1040 Perry  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:03:24am

re: #1021 vxbush
Our new little calico girl is completely in the way too. I don't type that well to begin with.

1041 nyc redneck  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:03:25am

re: #1005 vxbush

I think he realizes the power of Rush and is scared by it. Personally, if he had said that to me, I would have asked my staff to invite Rush to my office to talk to him in person. :D

that's what i was thinking.
just imagine how insulted the people were, to hear o, dictate who was appropriate for them to listen to. this was very insulting.
if pres. bush had said, something abt. not listening to oberhole, the msm would still be howling.

1042 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:03:26am

re: #1032 Dustyvet

[Video]

I think I am now scarred for life.

1043 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:03:28am

re: #1030 CIA Reject

Good morning to all my Comrades here in the land of Hopenchange where there are only 1457 days, 50 minutes and 30 seconds before we can go back to living in America.

...but who's counting.

On a related note, does anybody know whether or not you need to file an Environmental Impact Statement before you can compost unicorn manure? This thing showed up here Tuesday afternoon and all it's done is eat Twinkies and sh*t all over the place.

Can't you dry it out to later burn as fuel?

1044 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:03:36am

re: #1005 vxbush

I think he realizes the power of Rush and is scared by it. Personally, if he had said that to me, I would have asked my staff to invite Rush to my office to talk to him in person. :D

Which doesn't make much sense since Rush couldn't stop B Hussein from getting elected. And he tried.

1045 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:03:59am

re: #1030 CIA Reject

If they are anything like horses, the nitrates are a cause of concern. In The People's Republic of Maryland you have to have a removal plan in place if you have over 8 - do you have 8 unicorns?

1046 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:04:00am

re: #1036 opnion

FNC is reporting that Harry Reid snapped at a reporter yesterday, "Obama is not my boss."
Wait until Reid gets a visit from da Chicaga organization.

Concrete over coat?

1047 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:04:20am

re: #1004 SlartyBartfast

Indeed! I don't think he's had an independent thought in his life! Since the advent of Obama, I've seriously wondered if it's possible to get a law degree simply by regurgitating case law.

Did anyone see President Obama signing the executive order to close Guantanamo? He had to ask the White House counsel Greg Craig what was in the order! (See video time 00:58.)

Pathetic! We are so screwed...

Indeed! This tells me he is truly a puppet and someone else is pulling the strings. It also tells me that someone is crafting these executive orders and he is just signing what is placed before him.

Truly frightening!

1048 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:04:28am

re: #1006 Dustyvet

Title is "Somebody's got to say it"

GREAT read. He could care less if you're on the left or the right, if you f*** up he'll call you on it,,, LOUDLY. But he does have particular disdain for the looney left (he's a self described libratarian,,, so much so that he's been key-note speaker at ther convention at times)

1049 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:04:33am

re: #561 3 wood

Limbaugh almost single-handedly moved the conservative movement to the front lines. It had no mass following before his radio show, and was disorganized and leaderless nationally. Reagan provided the political leadership, and Limbaugh, the voice. Limbaugh is genuinely funny and entertaining, so he drew listeners in droves.

Obama has identified the sources of conservative power and popularity and is going after them. For those of you who still think he's an "empty suit":

[Link: www.theobamafile.com...] quotes from the following article [Link: www.tehrantimes.com...]

"Democrat frontrunners Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both worship at the altar of Alinskyism.

In a 1971 book called Rules for Radicals, Alinsky scolded the Sixties Left for scaring off potential converts in Middle America. True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within.

Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties.

In his native Chicago, Alinsky courted power wherever he found it. His alliance with prominent Catholic clerics, such as Bishop Bernard Sheil, gave him respectability. His friendship with crime bosses such as Frank Nitti -- Al Capone’s second-in-command -- gave Alinsky clout on the street.

Barack Obama is also an Alinskyite. Trained by Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation, Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project. Later, he worked with ACORN and its offshoot Project Vote, both creations of the Alinsky network.

Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer.

That Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama share an Alinskyite background tells us two things. First, they are leftists, dedicated to overthrowing our Constitutional system. Second, they will go to any length to conceal their radicalism from the public.

That is the Alinsky method. And that is today’s Democratic Party."

1050 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:04:34am

re: #1034 MandyManners

There are some conservative sites where it would go over like a lead balloon.

Hm. That's true. Operation True Freedom?

1051 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:04:37am

re: #965 Dustyvet
I think he's a commenter on Fox but I'm not sure - name is familar though - y'all ought to google him if no one else answers you by the time you get to this!

1052 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:04:39am

re: #1030 CIA Reject

Good morning to all my Comrades here in the land of Hopenchange where there are only 1457 days, 50 minutes and 30 seconds before we can go back to living in America.

...but who's counting.

On a related note, does anybody know whether or not you need to file an Environmental Impact Statement before you can compost unicorn manure? This thing showed up here Tuesday afternoon and all it's done is eat Twinkies and sh*t all over the place.

Just wait, your unicorn is going to look real good compared to the Gitmo detainee that you will have to take in.

1053 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:04:58am

re: #1030 CIA Reject

On a related note, does anybody know whether or not you need to file an Environmental Impact Statement before you can compost unicorn manure? This thing showed up here Tuesday afternoon and all it's done is eat Twinkies and sh*t all over the place.

Mine shits Skittles, I'm looking to trade for one that does licorice.

1054 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:05:08am

re: #1042 vxbush

I think I am now scarred for life.

sowarys...:(

1055 CIA Reject  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:05:18am

re: #1021 vxbush

gah...cat laying on arms. can barely type. great timing, fur face.

LOL!
Kitty Reject is my Touch Typing instructor: "No fair peeking at the keyboard!"

1056 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:05:29am
1057 lawhawk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:05:31am

re: #981 Bloodnok

Operation Waffle Iron

Stop talking about the Israeli operations in Gaza that way... /

1058 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:05:47am

re: #971 shug
Morning Shug - how are ya today?

1059 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:05:47am

POPCORN may not sound quite serious enough for a life and death situation...imo

1060 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:05:58am

re: #1051 realwest

I think he's a commenter on Fox but I'm not sure - name is familar though - y'all ought to google him if no one else answers you by the time you get to this!

I think Neil Boortz also has a talk radio show?

1061 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:06:10am

re: #1038 realwest

It's cause all of the real smart , good looking Lizards recongize the importance of getting ideas out there and this is the best time for many lizard to make thoughtful, detailed comments about things.
Also,it probably means that all of the real smart , good looking Lizards didn't get dates on Friday night!
:)

Yeah, we all had a good nights sleep. There is a lesson there.
The party Lizards are still in the sack.

1062 nyc redneck  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:06:14am

re: #1022 MandyManners

The key difference is that those nations do not have our history of freedom.

which makes it all the more chilling.

1063 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:06:37am

re: #1044 ciaospirit

Which doesn't make much sense since Rush couldn't stop B Hussein from getting elected. And he tried.

Except the Republicans didn't listen to Rush at all, and that was obvious during the election. Do you remember how upset Rush was on the tack McCain was taking with Obama? "Wright is okay; we don't need to talk about him," was McCain's stance, and Rush was furious that McCain told the Republicans not to run spots against Obama that noted Wright's connection.

1064 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:06:38am

re: #1051 realwest

I think he's a commenter on Fox but I'm not sure - name is familar though - y'all ought to google him if no one else answers you by the time you get to this!

I was just doing that, thanks...:)

1065 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:07:09am

re: #1058 realwest

Good morning.
I am spectacular considering I have only 21 hrs to go until I get off "work".
I plan on spending as much of that time doing nothing as possible

1066 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:07:13am

re: #1057 lawhawk

Stop talking about the Israeli operations in Gaza that way... /

Can't i just eat my waffle?

1067 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:07:22am
1068 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:07:45am

re: #1051 realwest

I think he's a commenter on Fox but I'm not sure - name is familar though - y'all ought to google him if no one else answers you by the time you get to this!

He's a syndicated talk radio host based out of Atlanta. he's Libratarian and the major public force behind The Fair Tax proposal

1069 lincolntf  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:07:48am

re: #1021 vxbush

My cat is on my lap at least 50% of the time I'm at the computer. Ridiculous little thing.

A bit cutesy (and prob. old), but funny cat thing

1070 Killer Tomato  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:08:13am

sigh
*missing RWR*
Remember "Prouder, Stronger, Better"? (1984 campaign ad that featured the opening line "It's morning again in America")
They say it's always darkest before the dawn...

Operation Dawn

1071 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:08:14am

re: #1060 reine.de.tout

see my 1068

1072 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:08:29am

re: #1036 opnion

FNC is reporting that Harry Reid snapped at a reporter yesterday, "Obama is not my boss."
Wait until Reid gets a visit from da Chicaga organization.

Has Reid shown any previous dislike for CBBHO?

1073 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:08:45am

re: #1030 CIA Reject

Good morning to all my Comrades here in the land of Hopenchange where there are only 1457 days, 50 minutes and 30 seconds before we can go back to living in America.

...but who's counting.

On a related note, does anybody know whether or not you need to file an Environmental Impact Statement before you can compost unicorn manure? This thing showed up here Tuesday afternoon and all it's done is eat Twinkies and sh*t all over the place.

I thought they pooped skittles...?

1074 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:08:48am

re: #1046 Dustyvet

Concrete over coat?

We should be so lucky.

1075 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:09:05am

re: #1069 lincolntf

My cat is on my lap at least 50% of the time I'm at the computer. Ridiculous little thing.

A bit cutesy (and prob. old), but funny cat thing

1076 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:09:23am

re: #1069 lincolntf

My cat is on my lap at least 50% of the time I'm at the computer. Ridiculous little thing.

A bit cutesy (and prob. old), but funny cat thing

When I was in college and lived in an apartment. Any time I was on the computer the neighbors cat came over on the deck, yowled at the window, and when I let it in sleep on top of the monitor.

1077 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:09:37am

re: #1060 reine.de.tout

I think Neil Boortz also has a talk radio show?


yes he does.
Pretty good show too

1078 BryanS  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:09:49am

re: #1049 quickjustice

Or the salami theory of revolution (was is Lenin who said this?) that democracy and capitalism will be lost a slice at a time. The whole salami is too much, but once slice at a time and sooner or later you've gone through the whole thing.

1079 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:10:14am

re: #1064 Dustyvet

I was just doing that, thanks...:)

Look here

1080 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:10:14am

re: #985 HoosierHoops
OK, thanks.

1081 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:10:23am

re: #1050 vxbush

Hm. That's true. Operation True Freedom?

I proposed Operation Fighting Back earlier but, your suggestion is great!

1082 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:10:24am

ask Rush and M Malkin and D Prager and some others what they think of an internet movement against BO...going to the PUMAs is a great idea...it would be cool if it could pop up seemingly out of nowhere nationally...needs legs and needs them fast..there is no time to spare if this gets serious

1083 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:10:38am

re: #1078 BryanS

Or the salami theory of revolution (was is Lenin who said this?) that democracy and capitalism will be lost a slice at a time. The whole salami is too much, but once slice at a time and sooner or later you've gone through the whole thing.


Just let me finish my waffle salami

1084 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:11:16am

re: #1049 quickjustice

Limbaugh almost single-handedly moved the conservative movement to the front lines. It had no mass following before his radio show, and was disorganized and leaderless nationally. Reagan provided the political leadership, and Limbaugh, the voice. Limbaugh is genuinely funny and entertaining, so he drew listeners in droves.

Obama has identified the sources of conservative power and popularity and is going after them. For those of you who still think he's an "empty suit":

[Link: www.theobamafile.com...] quotes from the following article [Link: www.tehrantimes.com...]

"Democrat frontrunners Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both worship at the altar of Alinskyism.

In a 1971 book called Rules for Radicals, Alinsky scolded the Sixties Left for scaring off potential converts in Middle America. True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within.

Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties.

In his native Chicago, Alinsky courted power wherever he found it. His alliance with prominent Catholic clerics, such as Bishop Bernard Sheil, gave him respectability. His friendship with crime bosses such as Frank Nitti -- Al Capone’s second-in-command -- gave Alinsky clout on the street.

Barack Obama is also an Alinskyite. Trained by Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation, Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project. Later, he worked with ACORN and its offshoot Project Vote, both creations of the Alinsky network.

Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer.

That Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama share an Alinskyite background tells us two things. First, they are leftists, dedicated to overthrowing our Constitutional system. Second, they will go to any length to conceal their radicalism from the public.

That is the Alinsky method. And that is today’s Democratic Party."

We need to send that link to everyone we know.

1085 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:11:33am

re: #995 opnion
Yup, right! LOL!

1086 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:11:38am

re: #1078 BryanS

Or the salami theory of revolution (was is Lenin who said this?) that democracy and capitalism will be lost a slice at a time. The whole salami is too much, but once slice at a time and sooner or later you've gone through the whole thing.

When I was in some financial trouble years ago, my huge concern was paying it off. My lawyer asked me if I could eat an elephant. I of course said no. he said 'yes you can, one bite at a time"

1087 SlartyBartfast  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:11:41am

re: #1023 opnion

It is not a sign of sophisticated nuance to stammer as. Obama does.
It signals that your brain is not keeping up.
Indeed we are screwed

I'm not a speech pathologist, but I personally believe he pauses to mentally rehearse what he's going to say in order to gauge the reaction. I would much rather have a leader who speaks from personal conviction, who is willing to stand on their own principles and to voice those principles without apology. I believe that's exactly what Sarah Palin did--that's why people responded to her and why the Left feared her.

Again, in my opinion President Obama isn't the source of any of his apparent policies--he's merely the Mouthpiece of the Left, regurgitating their talking points that have accumulated since 2000 guided by the Clinton Re-Treads.

1088 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:11:52am

re: #1078 BryanS

Or the salami theory of revolution (was is Lenin who said this?) that democracy and capitalism will be lost a slice at a time. The whole salami is too much, but once slice at a time and sooner or later you've gone through the whole thing.

I feel like a frog in a pot of water and Obama's hand is on the dial.

1089 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:12:07am

re: #1063 vxbush

Except the Republicans didn't listen to Rush at all, and that was obvious during the election. Do you remember how upset Rush was on the tack McCain was taking with Obama? "Wright is okay; we don't need to talk about him," was McCain's stance, and Rush was furious that McCain told the Republicans not to run spots against Obama that noted Wright's connection.


Great observation, people like Rush & Laura Ingraham did not come around to full support for McCain until there was about a week left.
Who knows what would have happened if they came around sooner, they were both important in stoping the Amnesty Bill.
McCain brought a lot of the grief on himself. I wish that he had won, but the guy is a jerk.

1090 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:12:28am

Boortz
Forget the 100 day standard, let's grade the first week! After all, when you have someone with so little experience in a job so important, no matter how impressive he may or may not be, you don't stand around with your teeth in your mouth and wait for over three months before you take a look at how he's doing.

1091 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:12:46am

re: #1056 ploome hineni

my thoughts on Nobama?

here was a kid whose single mother was MARGINALLY interested in him, and gave himinmal attention

and so early on, he learned how to evade her questions and tell her what she wanted to hear

after Mother remarried and he went to Indonesia, and mother has aa child with the newmusim husband, Nobama got even less attention

remember muslims ARE FORBIDDEN BY ISLAMIC LAW TO ADOPT

and his mother was not having an easy time with the new husband

and even less time for a mixed race kid who was supported by the new husband

Nobama was either so unhappy or uncontrollable or unwanted, that StanleyAnne sent him away and dumped him on her parents

these Grandparents, needed a teenager to raise like they needed a hole in the head

they didn;t have enough money so Granny had to get a full time job and again Nobama was on his own

saying whatever he had to say to Granny, to explain his behavior when she was working and he was on his own

Everything about NObama now, is evocative of the excuses and scenarios Nobama would fabricate to keep Granny happy

close enough to the truth...but no cigar

That is the scenario for raising a human to have a personality disorder, in this case, Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

1092 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:13:02am
1093 CIA Reject  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:13:07am

re: #1043 MandyManners

Can't you dry it out to later burn as fuel?

I tried that but the smoke took on the form of Al Gore and told me it wouldn't burn until I wrote him a check.

re: #1045 ArmyWife

If they are anything like horses, the nitrates are a cause of concern. In The People's Republic of Maryland you have to have a removal plan in place if you have over 8 - do you have 8 unicorns?

Only one, and thank G*d he steals his Twinkies from the neighbors 'cause we could never afford to feed him!

re: #1052 opnion

Just wait, your unicorn is going to look real good compared to the Gitmo detainee that you will have to take in.

No worries there- I've got a .45 ACP solution to that problem, but I'd have trouble using that in this fella, he is kinda cute...

re: #1053 JCM

Mine shits Skittles, I'm looking to trade for one that does licorice.

Well the color's right, but judging from the smell...

1094 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:13:40am

re: #1062 nyc redneck

which makes it all the more chilling.

I'm saying that we won't go their route. We know how to fight back with the law and history on our side.

1095 CIA Reject  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:14:07am

re: #1073 vapig

I thought they pooped skittles...?

I guess this is a young one...

1096 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:14:23am

re: #1087 SlartyBartfast

but I personally believe he pauses to mentally rehearse what he's going to say in order to gauge the reaction

BINGO ,, that and looking for a word that SOUNDS convincing and of action yet is vague!

'HOPE' ,,, 'CHANGE' ,,,

1097 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:14:48am

re: #1078 BryanS

Saul Alinsky. Link here: [Link: www.theobamafile.com...]
"All the elements were present: the individual stories told by real people of their situations and hardships, the packed-to-the rafters crowd, the crowd's chanting of key phrases and names, the action on the spot of texting and phoning to show instant support and commitment to jump into the political battle, the rallying selections of music, the setting of the agenda by the power people. The Democratic National Convention had all the elements of the perfectly organized event, Saul Alinsky style.

Barack Obama's training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness. It is an amazingly powerful format, and the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen. Obama learned his lesson well.

I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.

L. DAVID ALINSKY
Medfield"

1098 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:14:58am

re: #1072 MandyManners

Has Reid shown any previous dislike for CBBHO?

None that I know of, but I think the root of the problem is when Obama threatened to veto his own party , if he doesn't get what he wants.

1099 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:15:05am

re: #1049 quickjustice

Rush knows all this. He's commented on it many times. This is going to be a long , tough battle. Mr. Limbaugh and other outspoken critics of Obama need our continuing support.

1100 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:15:09am
1101 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:15:31am

re: #1087 SlartyBartfast

I'm not a speech pathologist, but I personally believe he pauses to mentally rehearse what he's going to say in order to gauge the reaction. I would much rather have a leader who speaks from personal conviction, who is willing to stand on their own principles and to voice those principles without apology. I believe that's exactly what Sarah Palin did--that's why people responded to her and why the Left feared her.

Again, in my opinion President Obama isn't the source of any of his apparent policies--he's merely the Mouthpiece of the Left, regurgitating their talking points that have accumulated since 2000 guided by the Clinton Re-Treads.

I think it goes back much farther than 2000.

1102 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:15:47am
1103 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:16:22am

bbiab

1104 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:16:29am

BBIAB ,,, my son "needs" to go to Target to slend some of his Christmas money.

(maybe he'll buy sumfin for who's bringin him!)

1105 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:16:33am

re: #1063 vxbush

Except the Republicans didn't listen to Rush at all, and that was obvious during the election. Do you remember how upset Rush was on the tack McCain was taking with Obama? "Wright is okay; we don't need to talk about him," was McCain's stance, and Rush was furious that McCain told the Republicans not to run spots against Obama that noted Wright's connection.

Quite right! And that asshole Colin Powell (Damn I used to like him. What a freaken disappoint he turned out to be!) telling the GOP to stop listening to Rush. Rush went off on that one! Said the GOP didn't listen to him before and they lost!

1106 Miss Trixie  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:17:06am

Ok, last post 'til later.

Dusty - that was hysterical! Here's one for you.

1107 sattv4u2  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:17:06am

re: #1104 sattv4u2

BBIAB ,,, my son "needs" to go to Target to slend some of his Christmas money.

(maybe he'll buy sumfin for who's bringin him!)

SPEND, even

1108 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:17:13am

re: #1101 MandyManners

I think it goes back much farther than 2000.

More worried about public opinion than keeping the public safe. Prick

1109 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:17:32am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Here's something I found in the papers today:
Signs point to time of harmony

The Chinese year of the Ox is imminent ... but there's also some warning if you believe in Chinese astrology and all that stuff (from the article):
'There are some inauspicious signs for Mr Obama. The sign is in direct conflict with a Chinese divinity called the “God of Year”, considered a bad omen. He also is the 44th President, a number the Chinese deem extremely unlucky ...'

1110 BryanS  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:18:07am

re: #1097 quickjustice

He is being very smart about his approach--lulling Republicans. Really, if he tried to do everything at once that he wants too, he will get less done. It's only smart politics.

1111 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:18:19am
1112 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:18:20am

Ok, group. We need a date, a volunteer to help write the form letter, and decide if the letter is broad in scope (Obama is killing our Nation, here are a few of the reasons why type thing) or does this phase take on the stimulus package only? Then we attack the National safety concerns? Vice versa?

Operation Preserve Freedom? Protect Freedom?

I wish I could create meaningful words to make an acronym from Unicorn!

1113 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:18:43am

re: #1108 Erik The Red

More worried about public opinion than keeping the public safe. Prick

attack his image relentlessly and he'll blow sooner or later...he's already having little micro tantrums

1114 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:18:45am

re: #1105 vapig

Quite right! And that asshole Colin Powell (Damn I used to like him. What a freaken disappoint he turned out to be!) telling the GOP to stop listening to Rush. Rush went off on that one! Said the GOP didn't listen to him before and they lost!

DING DING DING! Rush spoke about what the Republican party needs to do after the election, and everyone in the media was saying that they needed to move left, to move to the middle. Only Rush pointed out that McCain did exactly this, and he lost. So it makes more sense to move right and be a clear signal for the conservative side.

Alas, we do not have a Newt Gingrich wiling to take the slings and arrows of the media in order to take a stand.

1115 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:19:20am

re: #1106 Miss Trixie

Ok, last post 'til later.

Dusty - that was hysterical! Here's one for you.


[Video]

I haven't trained the cats to do that yet...

1116 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:19:47am
1117 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:20:03am
1118 monkeytime  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:20:48am

re: #1072 MandyManners

Has Reid shown any previous dislike for CBBHO?

LOL at this situation. My my..so many people in Washington totally in love with themselves and so many libs out here in love with PBO. What we have folks is a real Love Bermuda Triangle.

1119 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:20:52am
1120 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:20:55am

re: #1098 opnion

None that I know of, but I think the root of the problem is when Obama threatened to veto his own party , if he doesn't get what he wants.

Can I mail him a pacifier?

1121 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:20:56am

re: #1094 MandyManners

I'm saying that we won't go their route. We know how to fight back with the law and history on our side.

What we do need is a networked organization that does the grassroots phone, fax and email jams.

Notice the Gillebrand got the nod in New York. She has been a blue dog on economic issues and voted against the TARP. She got a lot of pressure from her district.

Pelosi didn't care because she told dems they could vote against because she would blame republicans. Which she did to great effect. If all republicans sit it out, then the blue dogs get placed in a corner. They bail and Obama's honeymoon is over.

1122 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:21:10am

re: #1001 JacksonTn
PLUS AND HEY Y'ALL - I have it on EXCELLENT AUTHORITY that Congresscritters take Faxed letters FAR MORE SERIOUSLY than e-mailed letters, cause anyone who is pissed off - even just temporarily - can send an e-mail; but a faxed letter means someone took the time to write a hard copy letter and went to the trouble to fax it.
I've been told that Faxed letters get about FIVE TIMES the attention of e-mails. And snail mail letters take weeks to get to 'em cause of all the x-raying and checking for powedered substances.

1123 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:21:51am

re: #1112 ArmyWife

Ok, group. We need a date, a volunteer to help write the form letter, and decide if the letter is broad in scope (Obama is killing our Nation, here are a few of the reasons why type thing) or does this phase take on the stimulus package only? Then we attack the National safety concerns? Vice versa?

Operation Preserve Freedom? Protect Freedom?

I wish I could create meaningful words to make an acronym from Unicorn!

Unicorn is a little too long for building an acronym, at least from a public relations point of view. It would created a phrase that would be 7 words long (or possibly longer if you include "the's" or "of's."

You want something a little shorter and two the point.

1124 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:22:06am

re: #1114 vxbush

DING DING DING! Rush spoke about what the Republican party needs to do after the election, and everyone in the media was saying that they needed to move left, to move to the middle. Only Rush pointed out that McCain did exactly this, and he lost. So it makes more sense to move right and be a clear signal for the conservative side.

Alas, we do not have a Newt Gingrich wiling to take the slings and arrows of the media in order to take a stand.

call Newt up on he phone...you just never know...
fortune favors the bold they say

1125 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:22:23am

re: #1106 Miss Trixie

That one little kitty refused to give up. Funny

1126 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:22:58am

re: #1112 ArmyWife

Ok, group. We need a date, a volunteer to help write the form letter, and decide if the letter is broad in scope (Obama is killing our Nation, here are a few of the reasons why type thing) or does this phase take on the stimulus package only? Then we attack the National safety concerns? Vice versa?

Operation Preserve Freedom? Protect Freedom?

I wish I could create meaningful words to make an acronym from Unicorn!

I'm an editor, not a writer. Have someone else write it, and I can give it a look over to find any egregious grammar problems (assuming, of course, that goddessoftheclassroom isn't available).

1127 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:23:00am

re: #1102 albusteve

nothing ventured nothing gained...

Gee I think all you guys/gals advocating revolution should really consider getting another hobby. As soon as these commie bastards screw up, we'll be able to vote them out. We just need some decent candidates also.

1128 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:23:14am

re: #1092 Walter L. Newton

And neither am I, but, I have a bleaker outlook on the current situation than you may. I don't believe any outcry from us, here in the trenches, is going to change anything, and while you or I may not be advocating revolution, someone will be, and that is going to become a viable alternative.

If civil unrest occurs don't you think that is something the 0 is just waiting for? He'll just use it as an excuse for declaring martial law and suspending the Constitution. Somethings he wants already.

1129 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:23:25am

OMG. Almost 12 straight hours on LGF and I am still awake and my wife has not killed me.(yet)

1130 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:23:28am

re: #1112 ArmyWife

Ok, group. We need a date, a volunteer to help write the form letter, and decide if the letter is broad in scope (Obama is killing our Nation, here are a few of the reasons why type thing) or does this phase take on the stimulus package only? Then we attack the National safety concerns? Vice versa?

Operation Preserve Freedom? Protect Freedom?

I wish I could create meaningful words to make an acronym from Unicorn!

United
Nation
In
Creating a
Original
Republic
Nation.

1131 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:23:51am

re: #1114 vxbush

You mean the only one with a public voice? Plenty of us said the same thing right here before Rush did. Lots of us.

1132 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:23:53am

re: #1125 Bobblehead

That one little kitty refused to give up. Funny

That was funny.

And here is a masterpiece I have put out here before, but here it is once again for anyone who loves cats but missed it:

An Engineer's Guide to Cats

1133 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:24:00am

re: #1105 vapig

Quite right! And that asshole Colin Powell (Damn I used to like him. What a freaken disappoint he turned out to be!) telling the GOP to stop listening to Rush. Rush went off on that one! Said the GOP didn't listen to him before and they lost!


I think that General Powell shoul STFU! That is just my opinion.
He put race before country & party. Powell & McCain should just be ignored. Oh & make Michael Steele head of the RNC. Not because he would be our Black guy to counter their Black guy, but because he is smart & a trooper.

1134 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:24:05am

re: #1122 realwest

PLUS AND HEY Y'ALL - I have it on EXCELLENT AUTHORITY that Congresscritters take Faxed letters FAR MORE SERIOUSLY than e-mailed letters, cause anyone who is pissed off - even just temporarily - can send an e-mail; but a faxed letter means someone took the time to write a hard copy letter and went to the trouble to fax it.
I've been told that Faxed letters get about FIVE TIMES the attention of e-mails. And snail mail letters take weeks to get to 'em cause of all the x-raying and checking for powedered substances.

Snail Mail gets there attention. It takes more effort for snail mail.

1135 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:24:16am

re: #1046 Dustyvet
Nah, Las Vegas has a meaner machine than Chicago and more money, too.

1136 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:24:35am

re: #1130 JCM

United
Nation
In
Creating a
Original
Republic
Nation.

Too close to the UN that already exists. Just needs some tweaking...

1137 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:24:39am

re: #1126 vxbush

Mandy? You have an excellent way with words. So do you, Walter, even if you think we are spinning our wheels.

1138 ciaospirit  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:24:45am

re: #1063 vxbush

Except the Republicans didn't listen to Rush at all, and that was obvious during the election.

That's my point. They didn't listen. Yet B Hussein wants to silence Rush presumably because he really believes Rush is too powerful.

1139 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:24:49am

re: #1122 realwest

PLUS AND HEY Y'ALL - I have it on EXCELLENT AUTHORITY that Congresscritters take Faxed letters FAR MORE SERIOUSLY than e-mailed letters, cause anyone who is pissed off - even just temporarily - can send an e-mail; but a faxed letter means someone took the time to write a hard copy letter and went to the trouble to fax it.
I've been told that Faxed letters get about FIVE TIMES the attention of e-mails. And snail mail letters take weeks to get to 'em cause of all the x-raying and checking for powedered substances.

Excellent point.

1140 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:25:29am

re: #1127 Nevergiveup

Gee I think all you guys/gals advocating revolution should really consider getting another hobby. As soon as these commie bastards screw up, we'll be able to vote them out. We just need some decent candidates also.

I'm not advocating revolution...I'm advocating a movement in the trenches as I weakly imply in all my posts

1141 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:25:31am

re: #1131 ArmyWife

You mean the only one with a public voice? Plenty of us said the same thing right here before Rush did. Lots of us.

Yes. I'm not disagreeing that we did. I'm just remember what Rush said. Alas, much of what goes on at LGF gets stored into inaccessible memory cells in my brain.

1142 jwb7605  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:25:40am

re: #1121 karmic_inquisitor

What we do need is a networked organization that does the grassroots phone, fax and email jams.

Notice the Gillebrand got the nod in New York. She has been a blue dog on economic issues and voted against the TARP. She got a lot of pressure from her district.

Pelosi didn't care because she told dems they could vote against because she would blame republicans. Which she did to great effect. If all republicans sit it out, then the blue dogs get placed in a corner. They bail and Obama's honeymoon is over.

Upding.
I've been reading posts, and noticed the remarks about eating an elephant a small bite at a time. Wise advice.

I would also observe that there is a whole herd of elephants that need to be disposed of. A disorganized "revolution" of any sort (armed or otherwise) is simply not going to disperse the herd. It is more likely to disperse the hunting party.

1143 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:25:57am

For those of you who believe in Chinese astrology, on Monday we enter the Year of the Ox, which is the year Obama was born. This upcoming ox year is unusual in another respect:

"Not since 1949, when the Communist Party took power, have two earth signs been associated with an ox year."

1144 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:26:02am

re: #1135 realwest

Nah, Las Vegas has a meaner machine than Chicago and more money, too.

Cement Bermuda shorts?

1145 BryanS  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:26:17am

re: #1121 karmic_inquisitor

I think you hit the nail on the head...the Dems got their majority by taking on a lot of conservative Democrats in their ranks. That is the best place to focus our attack--it has always been a challenge in this country to hold and maintain convincing majorities due to the need to take on less "pure" members. This is even more so for the left in a center right country.


We need to sew disloyalty, confusion, and disunity within the ranks of the Democrat majority. And don't forget that Obama's lulling of conservatives is as much to protect his flank and shore up blue dog Dems.

1146 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:26:18am

re: #1136 vxbush

Too close to the UN that already exists. Just needs some tweaking...

Good point!
Tweak away!

1147 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:26:19am

re: #1061 opnion
Well not ALL of us did, but some clearly had more sleep than others! LOL!

1148 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:26:35am

re: #1112 ArmyWife

Ok, group. We need a date, a volunteer to help write the form letter, and decide if the letter is broad in scope (Obama is killing our Nation, here are a few of the reasons why type thing) or does this phase take on the stimulus package only? Then we attack the National safety concerns? Vice versa?

Operation Preserve Freedom? Protect Freedom?

I wish I could create meaningful words to make an acronym from Unicorn!

Focus on the actionable and identifiable.

Pick ONE demand. Win on that demand and you get to more power to make another.

1149 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:27:10am

re: #1127 Nevergiveup

Gee I think all you guys/gals advocating revolution should really consider getting another hobby. As soon as these commie bastards screw up, we'll be able to vote them out. We just need some decent candidates also.

Gee, if you think your vote really counts, no matter what party or candidate you vote for, then you have been sleeping for the last 8 years.

As "strange" as TaxFreeKiller's comment on LFG may seem, the one point I believe he has nailed is that the is a "two party evil money cult" in DC, and they are out to enrich their corporate buddies no matter what you or I do.

In my opinion, you can't change it, not through the ballot box anymore.

1150 jwb7605  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:27:20am

re: #1148 karmic_inquisitor

Focus on the actionable and identifiable.

Pick ONE demand. Win on that demand and you get to more power to make another.

Another upding.

1151 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:28:38am

re: #1113 albusteve

attack his image relentlessly and he'll blow sooner or later...he's already having little micro tantrums

Indeed! Like at the press conference where a reporter actually had the audacity to ask him a question (regarding his hiring a lobbyist)! The nerve!

1152 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:28:56am

re: #1143 quickjustice

For those of you who believe in Chinese astrology, on Monday we enter the Year of the Ox, which is the year Obama was born. This upcoming ox year is unusual in another respect:

"Not since 1949, when the Communist Party took power, have two earth signs been associated with an ox year."

Thank you George Norby. Now back to reality.

1153 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:29:07am

re: #1114 vxbush

DING DING DING! Rush spoke about what the Republican party needs to do after the election, and everyone in the media was saying that they needed to move left, to move to the middle. Only Rush pointed out that McCain did exactly this, and he lost. So it makes more sense to move right and be a clear signal for the conservative side.

Alas, we do not have a Newt Gingrich wiling to take the slings and arrows of the media in order to take a stand.

You need, if I may be so bold and offer an example, young leaders, fresh faces, like Sarah P.
Those need to work hard and need to be able to put up with a lot of derision by the MFM and by a number of former party grandees.
They need to work as a team, but show great leadership in their area of expertise.
It took a couple of years for our new, young leaders in the Tory aprty - and they ahd to remove a whole heap of distrust and nasty images, both kept well alive by the MFM.
Now they're ahead by ten points, and in spite of NuLab constant attacks people will indeed elect them come the next General Election.

It took so long because the Tories tried to be all things to everybody and forgot their core principles ...

1154 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:29:35am

re: #1137 ArmyWife

Mandy? You have an excellent way with words. So do you, Walter, even if you think we are spinning our wheels.

Operation Hope

Halting
Obama's
Progressive
Endeavors

(On second thought, it sounds too much like a leftist operation)

1155 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:29:54am

re: #1147 realwest

Well not ALL of us did, but some clearly had more sleep than others! LOL!


I got plenty.

1156 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:29:54am

re: #1149 Walter L. Newton

Gee, if you think your vote really counts, no matter what party or candidate you vote for, then you have been sleeping for the last 8 years.

As "strange" as TaxFreeKiller's comment on LFG may seem, the one point I believe he has nailed is that the is a "two party evil money cult" in DC, and they are out to enrich their corporate buddies no matter what you or I do.

In my opinion, you can't change it, not through the ballot box anymore.

Just seems odd that some one who is always jumping on anyone who might cause Charles to get a visit from the Secret Service talking about Revolution. Just an observation.

1157 BBev  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:30:03am

A little fun for us that live here in New Hampshire.

Jeff Foxworthy on New Hampshire :

If you consider it a sport to gather your food by drilling through 36 inches of ice and sitting there all day hoping that the food will swim by, you might live in New Hampshire .


If you're proud that your region makes the national news 96 nights a year because Mt. Washington is the coldest spot in the nation, and Plymouth gets more snow than any other major city in the US, you might live in New Hampshire.

If your local Dairy Queen is closed from October through May, you might live in New Hampshire .

If you get 131 inches of snow in a week and you comment that 'winter's finally here', you might live near Laconia in New Hampshire .

If you instinctively walk like a penguin for six months out of the year, you might live, bundled up, in New Hampshire .

If someone in a Home Depot store offers you assistance, and they don't work there, you might live in Ne w Hampshire .

If people have suntans that stop at a line curving around the middle of the forehead, you might live in New Hampshire .

If you have worn shorts and a parka on the same day, you might live in New Hampshire .

If you have had a lengthy phone conversation with someone who dialed a wrong number, you might live in New Hampshire .

YOU KNOW YOU ARE A TRUE NEW HAMPSHIRER WHEN:

"Vacation" means going South past Manchester for the weekend.

You measure distance in hours.

You know several people who have hit a deer more than once.

You often switch from "heat" to "A/C" in the same day and back again.

You can drive 55mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard, without flinching.

You install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked.

You carry jumper cables in your car and your girlfriend/wife actually knows how to use them.

You design your kid's Halloween costume to fit over a snowsuit.

Driving is better in the winter because the potholes are filled with snow.

You know all 4 seasons: almost winter, winter, still winter, and road construction.

You can identify a southern or northern accent.

Down South to you means Concord .

Your neighbor throws a party to celebrate his new shed.

You go out for a fish fry every Friday.

Your 4th of July picnic was moved indoors due to frost.

You have more miles on your snow blower than your car.

You find 10 degrees "a little chilly." and 55 is shorts weather.

You actually understand these jokes, and you forward them to all your New Hampshire friends and to those who used to live here and left. -- (chickens).

1158 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:30:08am

re: #1112 ArmyWife

I'd advocate for communicating only with Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats in the Congress at this time to buck them up. I don't think the Democratic majority in Congress will react to any negative communication about their proposed plans yet: the "honeymoon" is still with us.

They'll be in deep trouble soon enough.

1159 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:30:35am

United
AmericaNs
Inviting
Communities
Over to
SmarteR
PlaNs

1160 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:30:46am

My wife is a water sign, I'm an earth sign..together we made mud...

Rodney Dangerfield...

1161 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:30:56am

re: #1137 ArmyWife

Mandy? You have an excellent way with words. So do you, Walter, even if you think we are spinning our wheels.

Yes Army, you said it!
They, and you, and many others, have a succinct style of communicating that causes me to want to be just like them when I grow up!

1162 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:31:07am

re: #1137 ArmyWife

Mandy? You have an excellent way with words. So do you, Walter, even if you think we are spinning our wheels.

No, I wasn't saying you are spinning your wheels, in reference to you suggestion, I was only suggesting that you find a shorted, more meaningful word to build on.

1163 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:31:47am

re: #1153 yma o hyd

You need, if I may be so bold and offer an example, young leaders, fresh faces, like Sarah P.
Those need to work hard and need to be able to put up with a lot of derision by the MFM and by a number of former party grandees.
They need to work as a team, but show great leadership in their area of expertise.
It took a couple of years for our new, young leaders in the Tory aprty - and they ahd to remove a whole heap of distrust and nasty images, both kept well alive by the MFM.
Now they're ahead by ten points, and in spite of NuLab constant attacks people will indeed elect them come the next General Election.

It took so long because the Tories tried to be all things to everybody and forgot their core principles ...

Yup, yup, yup...I think the Democrats believe Palin could do that. Hence the focus on her destruction.

1164 Bobblehead  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:32:32am

re: #1132 reine.de.tout

Cat yodeling. Ha, ha,ha..

1165 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:32:34am

re: #1133 opnion

I think that General Powell shoul STFU! That is just my opinion.
He put race before country & party. Powell & McCain should just be ignored. Oh & make Michael Steele head of the RNC. Not because he would be our Black guy to counter their Black guy, but because he is smart & a trooper.

Michael Steele has been named to head the RNC. I heard him on the radio on Thursday. He sounds like he wants to put the party back on the right track - conservative principles. Listening to the man gave me high hopes.

1166 nyc redneck  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:32:45am

i bet rush will get twice his usual listeners on monday.
i will now try to never miss his show.
i find him intelligent, funny, informative and just self effacing enough, that his occasional arrogance doesn't bother me at all.
wow. it's a face off. how strange.
the pres.of the united states vs a 'lovable fuzzball'

they should square off and have a debate. of course o would never agree to that.
the world would see him exposed as a dull and ignorant uh, uh, uh'ing jerk.

1167 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:33:01am

re: #1112 ArmyWife
Respectfully, what we need more than a letter are solutions to the problems. So far we may (or may not) have a name for the group, and we are in general agreement about Obama, but we don't have any sort of real agreement on the major issues of the day: the economy, the GWoT (should we or should we not invade nuclear armed Pakistan; should we keep Gitmo alive and well someplace else; do we really give a damn about what the world thinks of us; should we or should we not "penalize" financially, nations that don't support us in the GWoT) and a raft of other problems. Just bitching and moaning about Obama - ESPECIALLY when he's been in office less than a week - is going to ruin any credibility we might have.

1168 Mezzetino  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:33:14am

Any San Francisco lizards with cameras gonna cover the SF March for Life with its counterprotest? Should be some GREAT moonbat-spotting!

1169 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:33:16am

When is the Super Bowl? This Sunday or next?

1170 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:33:23am

re: #1157 BBev

You install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked.

I've never seen the house I grew up in locked. And usually the keys are in the unlocked car in the driveway. Never a break-in.

1171 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:33:25am

re: #1145 BryanS

re: #1142 jwb7605

Here is the website for the Blue Dog Democrats.

[Link: www.house.gov...]

Notice the debt clock.

These Dems represent Red districts. They know 2010 will be a tough year. They need to feel uncomfortable about just going along.

Any lizards in any of their districts should be the "tip of the spear" for the efforts, IMO.

1172 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:33:34am

Okay. I have to get some more breakfast--well, now it's a midmorning snack--and help the hubby get the son up. We've kept him in bed way too long today.

1173 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:33:37am

re: #1169 Erik The Red

When is the Super Bowl? This Sunday or next?

Next

1174 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:33:56am

I am compiling a list of possible names, give me a sec.

1175 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:34:15am

re: #1137 ArmyWife

Mandy? You have an excellent way with words. So do you, Walter, even if you think we are spinning our wheels.

I am not versed enough in nitty-gritty policy details to do a just job.

1176 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:34:29am

re: #1148 karmic_inquisitor

Focus on the actionable and identifiable.

Pick ONE demand. Win on that demand and you get to more power to make another.

Yep! That's how the left got to where they are.

1177 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:34:58am

re: #1166 nyc redneck

i bet rush will get twice his usual listeners on monday.
i will now try to never miss his show.
i find him intelligent, funny, informative and just self effacing enough, that his occasional arrogance doesn't bother me at all.
wow. it's a face off. how strange.
the pres.of the united states vs a 'lovable fuzzball'

they should square off and have a debate. of course o would never agree to that.
the world would see him exposed as a dull and ignorant uh, uh, uh'ing jerk.


I'm reminded of Steven Tyler testifying before the congressional committee with regards to those Parental Warning Labels on albums.

His comment was something like this " thanks to Tipper Gore, a few four letter words and a little sticker, we're guaranteed to sell an extra million albums"

I think every Dittohead will be listening on Monday and there is a vast army ready to defend Rush

1178 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:35:13am

re: #1127 Nevergiveup

Gee I think all you guys/gals advocating revolution should really consider getting another hobby. As soon as these commie bastards screw up, we'll be able to vote them out. We just need some decent candidates also.

You didn't read my disclaimer closely enough.

I'm saying be prepared to assert our rights. At the ballot box, by speaking.
I'm saying be prepared.

I saying Eric Holder's and Obama both have advocated that the final means of resisting tyranny be removed from our hands.

1179 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:35:18am

re: #1156 Nevergiveup

Just seems odd that some one who is always jumping on anyone who might cause Charles to get a visit from the Secret Service talking about Revolution. Just an observation.

Ok, I don't know how many times I have to say it here, especially to you, who has called me on this before. I AM NOT ADVOCATING A REVOLUTION. In no way do I want to see Americans killing or hurting other Americans. Nada, nyet, non, no and so on.

But, I do realize that that may be the direction that some group takes in this country, in the future.

And yes, I do believe that our vote counts for nothing. The fix is in in DC, and the whole thing exists now for BIG MONEY, and what they can get from us.

So, stop trying to bait me, you know my score.

1180 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:35:21am

re: #1151 vapig

Indeed! Like at the press conference where a reporter actually had the audacity to ask him a question (regarding his hiring a lobbyist)! The nerve!

laugh in his face...even though I am supremely angered by his nomination and ridiculous and dangerous solutions I fart in his general direction...I'd love to have the chance to ignore his presence and refuse to shake his hand

1181 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:35:30am

re: #1169 Erik The Red

When is the Super Bowl? This Sunday or next?

Next, and the Minnesota Viking will be there...on the front row 50 yard line seats...The big big purple dummies...

1182 BBev  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:35:38am

re: #1170 Bloodnok


You install security lights on your house and garage and leave both unlocked.

I've never seen the house I grew up in locked. And usually the keys are in the unlocked car in the driveway. Never a break-in.

It's all so true

1183 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:36:01am

re: #1137 ArmyWife

Mandy? You have an excellent way with words. So do you, Walter, even if you think we are spinning our wheels.

Or, away from the acronym theme it could be something like "Operation ONE Response"

1184 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:36:04am

re: #1152 Walter L. Newton

I'd wait to see how Rush reacts, and then play off that. 25 million listeners will be on board.

1185 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:36:04am

re: #1165 vapig

Michael Steele has been named to head the RNC. I heard him on the radio on Thursday. He sounds like he wants to put the party back on the right track - conservative principles. Listening to the man gave me high hopes.

I missed that, good news. It makes sense to have a Republican, lead the Republican Party. Now we need a Republican candidate.

1186 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:36:24am

re: #1134 JCMSorry to disagree with ya JCM but as I mentioned, it takes FOREVER for them to actually get snail mail; FAX FIRST AND FOLLOW UP BY SNAIL MAILING THE LETTER YOU FAXED.
Got this directly from a Senators Chief of Staff.

1187 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:36:32am

Western diplomats told Reuters on Saturday that former U.S. Senator George Mitchell would try to shore up a shaky ceasefire in the Gaza Strip between Israel and Hamas. They said Mitchell was expected to make stops in Israel and the West Bank.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Maybe somebody should clue old George "Braveheart" Mitchell into the fact that Gaza ain't on the West Bank?

1188 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:36:41am

re: #1172 vxbush

Okay. I have to get some more breakfast--well, now it's a midmorning snack--and help the hubby get the son up. We've kept him in bed way too long today.

Hope I'm not overstepping my boundaries here . . . , what do mean you have to help the hubby get the son up?

1189 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:36:49am

re: #1169 Erik The Red

When is the Super Bowl? This Sunday or next?

next

1190 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:36:56am

re: #1163 vxbush

Yup, yup, yup...I think the Democrats believe Palin could do that. Hence the focus on her destruction.

You got to have more people than just one Sarah Palin.
Watch out how Alaska, and herself, will be treated by the PB0 administration. It won't be pretty - and I'm certain they'll do everything to damage her beyond repair.

You need more like her - young ones, untainted by Washington DC!

1191 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:37:30am

re: #1181 Dustyvet

Next, and the Minnesota Viking will be there...on the front row 50 yard line seats...The big big purple dummies...

What's a ticket go for? And enjoy lucky bastard.

1192 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:37:32am

re: #1169 Erik The Red

Superbowl: Feb. 1-- Limbaugh will be there!

1193 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:37:36am

re: #1151 vapig

Indeed! Like at the press conference where a reporter actually had the audacity to ask him a question (regarding his hiring a lobbyist)! The nerve!

Was that a press conference or was that CBBHO's visit to the press' offices in the White House?

1194 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:37:51am

re: #1167 realwest

Real, we need more Maltese Poodles to attack Frenchmen.

1195 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:38:23am

Whoa! almost 1200 posts and not one delete!
I'm proud of you {deleted } Lizards today!

1196 vapig  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:38:45am

Thank you all for a lovely morning! This has been pretty uplidting for me, but now my housework beckens!

TTFN!

1197 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:38:55am

re: #1195 HoosierHoops

Whoa! almost 1200 posts and not one delete!
I'm proud of you {deleted } Lizards today!

We have been good little Lizards today.

1198 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:38:55am

re: #1195 HoosierHoops

Whoa! almost 1200 posts and not one delete!
I'm proud of you {deleted } Lizards today!

FIRST!

1199 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:39:20am

re: #1179 Walter L. Newton

I think you have me confused with someone else. I never remember calling you on that before. But you seem to jump on others for even one misplace word.

1200 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:39:41am

re: #1191 Erik The Red

What's a ticket go for? And enjoy lucky bastard.

2-3000

1201 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:39:42am

re: #1191 Erik The Red

What's a ticket go for? And enjoy lucky bastard.

I ain't going...I ragging on the Vikings...:)

1202 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:39:42am

re: #1198 Bloodnok

FIRST!

LOL a little late for that one to work.

1203 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:39:49am

re: #1194 opnion

Real, we need more Maltese Poodles to attack Frenchmen.

Release the hounds!

1204 jwb7605  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:40:17am

re: #1200 albusteve

2-3000

Where can I get the two dollar ticket? Are the seats any good?

1205 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:40:18am

re: #1187 Nevergiveup

Western diplomats told Reuters on Saturday that former U.S. Senator George Mitchell would try to shore up a shaky ceasefire in the Gaza Strip between Israel and Hamas. They said Mitchell was expected to make stops in Israel and the West Bank.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Maybe somebody should clue old George "Braveheart" Mitchell into the fact that Gaza ain't on the West Bank?

I would suspect that he will be talking to Fatah in the West Bank, since a peace of any sort in that region, at least conventional wisdom, precludes that all Pali's are included in talks.

1206 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:40:20am

re: #1200 albusteve

2-3000

What Peso's

1207 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:40:57am

re: #1204 jwb7605

Where can I get the two dollar ticket? Are the seats any good?

at home and yes they are primo :)

1208 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:41:02am

re: #1203 n in wi

Release the hounds!

Viva Les Poodles!

1209 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:41:18am

re: #78 Erik The Red

Now 44 wants to tell us who we can't listen to on the Radio. Fucking asshat.
Obama: Quit Listening to Rush

President Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill today that they need to quit listening to radio king Rush Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

This is the political equivalent of showing up at your adversary's home with a baseball bat. What a thug.

1210 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:41:43am

re: #1177 shug

I'm reminded of Steven Tyler testifying before the congressional committee with regards to those Parental Warning Labels on albums.

His comment was something like this " thanks to Tipper Gore, a few four letter words and a little sticker, we're guaranteed to sell an extra million albums"

I think every Dittohead will be listening on Monday and there is a vast army ready to defend Rush

I think more than Dittoheads will be listening.

1211 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:41:48am

re: #1203 n in wi

Release the hounds!

Free(s) the Bichons!

1212 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:42:15am

re: #1145 BryanS
"We need to sew disloyalty, confusion, and disunity within the ranks of the Democrat majority." Actually WE don't; they'll do that all by themselves; what we have to do in terms of policy, is figure out which Dems actually DON'T believe in and are willing to go against Obama's wishes and then encourage them - not encourage them to become R's - but to vote the way R's should vote!

1213 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:42:15am

re: #1209 DistantThunder

This is the political equivalent of showing up at your adversary's home with a baseball bat. What a thug.

Hey DT. Listen to Rush on Monday it will be a blast.

1214 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:42:23am

re: #1206 Erik The Red

What Peso's

dollars...this week prices will skyrocket and some people will pay whatever it takes...5k more ?

1215 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:42:47am

re: #1186 realwest

Sorry to disagree with ya JCM but as I mentioned, it takes FOREVER for them to actually get snail mail; FAX FIRST AND FOLLOW UP BY SNAIL MAILING THE LETTER YOU FAXED.
Got this directly from a Senators Chief of Staff.

Double whammy! I like it.

1216 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:42:49am

re: #1199 Nevergiveup

I think you have me confused with someone else. I never remember calling you on that before. But you seem to jump on others for even one misplace word.

I thought you did, but if you haven't, then I apologize. But that's not my point, my point is I am not leading any call for a revolution, but I think it will happen, and I feel our vote is worthless now a days.

Simple.

1217 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:42:50am

re: #1198 Bloodnok

FIRST!

LOL
Hey Charles..If somebody posts first on the 1198th post..Does it get deleted?
It's kind of like instant replay in the NFL..Did Bloodnok drop the ball or can the ground cause a fumble?

1218 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:43:46am

re: #1217 HoosierHoops

LOL
Hey Charles..If somebody posts first on the 1198th post..Does it get deleted?
It's kind of like instant replay in the NFL..Did Bloodnok drop the ball or can the ground cause a fumble?

Saved by the Tuck Rule! (again)

1219 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:43:48am

I think we need to do football squares for the Super Bowl

1220 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:43:58am

18:25 France floats plan for EU to absorb prisoners from Guantanamo prison (Reuters)

The French don't even appear to be able to protect their former President from One vicious dog, how are they gonna control terrorists?

1221 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:44:35am

re: #1219 shug

I think we need to do football squares for the Super Bowl

I'll take Realwest for the block.

1222 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:44:49am

re: #1179 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I don't know how many times I have to say it here, especially to you, who has called me on this before. I AM NOT ADVOCATING A REVOLUTION. In no way do I want to see Americans killing or hurting other Americans. Nada, nyet, non, no and so on.

But, I do realize that that may be the direction that some group takes in this country, in the future.

And yes, I do believe that our vote counts for nothing. The fix is in in DC, and the whole thing exists now for BIG MONEY, and what they can get from us.

So, stop trying to bait me, you know my score.

I'll repost the following quote to support your arguement.

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
-Thomas Jefferson

It will not be the people that bring about a revolution.
It will be the tyrant.

1223 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:45:25am

re: #1221 Bloodnok

I'll take Realwest for the block.

took me a second...but I got it

very clever

1224 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:46:31am

I'm not advocating for revolution-- yet. The ballot still works far better than the bullet in political matters. If I become convinced that the electoral process is being systematically tainted, and that the courts won't intervene, then sterner measures might become necessary.

Loss of credibility with the public already has damaged the GOP seriously. Bluntly put, the GOP was incompetent in mismanaging this economic crisis. Henry Paulson should be tarred and feathered.

The Democrats will need a little longer to plunge to even deeper depths. Give them more rope. They'll hang themselves.

1225 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:46:36am

re: #1220 Nevergiveup

18:25 France floats plan for EU to absorb prisoners from Guantanamo prison (Reuters)

The French don't even appear to be able to protect their former President from One vicious dog, how are they gonna control terrorists?


Did you see that monster? That was two pounds of rompin, stompin poodle with attitude!

1226 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:46:37am

re: #1149 Walter L. Newton
Sorry Walter, but if we can't change it through the ballot box and you're advocating changing it by armed revolution, count me out.
We've been down that road and I have no intention of killing another American unless it's in literal self-defense.
And if you didn't mean armed revolution, then how do you propose we "fix things" if our votes don't count?

1227 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:46:45am

Peter Marshall: Whose motto is "Do Your Best"?

Paul Lynde: I guess we can rule out Jimmy Carter...

1228 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:46:59am

I wonder why the NFL has decided this year to not allow the USMC color guard to stay for the game.

1229 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:47:16am

Oh, btw, did I say we won?

We did!
We trashed them Eyties!
Top team in the European championship pool stages, unbeaten, most points ...

Yeee-hah!

1230 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:47:42am

re: #1227 Dustyvet

Peter Marshall: Whose motto is "Do Your Best"?

Paul Lynde: I guess we can rule out Jimmy Carter...

LOL

1231 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:48:19am

Every time we hold an election and those we elect are sworn into office is a revolution.

1232 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:48:29am

re: #1162 Walter L. Newton

Sorry, phone call from my sister! You are right, and I am so not the expert on everything (despite my husband perhaps telling you I THINK I am!). We have talent on this board, if we harness it, we can make change (and hope!).

1233 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:48:43am

re: #1228 MandyManners

I wonder why the NFL has decided this year to not allow the USMC color guard to stay for the game.

Wasn't it something about paying for their own seats?

1234 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:48:45am

re: #1225 opnion

French poodles are very smart beasts. One ought not mess with them.

1235 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:48:53am

re: #1214 albusteve

dollars...this week prices will skyrocket and some people will pay whatever it takes...5k more ?

You must be joking. 5k for a 1 hour game. I love my sports but fuck that. Stay at home spend $1500 on a flat screen and throw a party for 20 people and still have change for a beach vacation.

1236 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:49:06am

re: #1216 Walter L. Newton

I thought you did, but if you haven't, then I apologize. But that's not my point, my point is I am not leading any call for a revolution, but I think it will happen, and I feel our vote is worthless now a days.

Simple.

Fair enough. I assume you mean a revolution at the ballot box anyway? It's just as one who has taken an oath to protect this country against all enemies both foreign and domestic, talk about any other type if revolution is a touchy subject. Anyway since it's a slow news day, gotta get the blood flowing some how?

1237 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:49:14am

re: #1230 outsidephilly

LOL

Paul Lynd was one of the funniest guys ever...I still do his impressions when I get silly...the kids loved it when they were little

1238 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:49:21am

It's on:
Anecdotally, I applied for my FOID here in Illinois card before the election and I am still waiting, no response to my email inquiries and the contact tele # has been always busy. The website where I got the application form stated that it would take 30 days to process. Instant return of Clinton era tactics.
Also anecdotally, my wife, a state employee, while leaving after work Wednesday, was encountered by her boss, who advised her to stop listening to Rush because he is so full of hate and now that we have the best president in the last 100 years, we need to stop all that hate. Projection.
It's ALL at risk folks, please treat it as such.

1239 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:49:42am

re: #1213 Erik The Red

Hey DT. Listen to Rush on Monday it will be a blast.

I first started listening to Rush during the Rodney King Riots. i was actually distraught as the blacks were tearing apart their neighborhoods, and torching buildings and hurting innocent business owners. The MSM made the criminals out as poor victims - then I turned to Rush - and he was outraged - and indignant at their behavior. Hard to call them victims when they had big happy grins on their faces carrying big TV's and stereos out of looted businesses.

I was hooked.

1240 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:50:04am

re: #1219 shug

I think we need to do football squares for the Super Bowl

How much per square?

1241 esch  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:50:09am

re: #1222 JCM

I'll repost the following quote to support your arguement.

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
-Thomas Jefferson

It will not be the people that bring about a revolution.
It will be the tyrant.

O's not smart/competent enough to succeed as a tyrant. But if we don't fight tooth and nail, he'll put in place a system that will enable one.

Think of another O that actually is as smart as O thinks he is.

1242 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:50:21am

re: #1237 albusteve

Paul Lynd was one of the funniest guys ever...I still do his impressions when I get silly...the kids loved it when they were little

Yep, funny beyond funny!

1243 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:50:26am

re: #1232 ArmyWife

Sorry, phone call from my sister! You are right, and I am so not the expert on everything (despite my husband perhaps telling you I THINK I am!). We have talent on this board, if we harness it, we can make change (and hope!).

You're spot on!

And don't forget that you have resources as well - think of all the blogs, some not exactly small potatoes.

1244 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:50:58am
1245 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:51:18am

re: #1235 Erik The Red

You must be joking. 5k for a 1 hour game. I love my sports but fuck that. Stay at home spend $1500 on a flat screen and throw a party for 20 people and still have change for a beach vacation.

the game takes three hours or more to play...the party is a once in a lifetime monster when held in the right town...it's a purely American thing and we love it...money is no object at that point

1246 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:51:33am

re: #1226 realwest

Sorry Walter, but if we can't change it through the ballot box and you're advocating changing it by armed revolution, count me out.
We've been down that road and I have no intention of killing another American unless it's in literal self-defense.
And if you didn't mean armed revolution, then how do you propose we "fix things" if our votes don't count?

Hey look, I'm getting tired of this. Show me one place on LGF that I, ME, MYSELF, have advocated armed conflict in this country?

Dammit, can't someone make an observation without being tarred with something? Pay fucking attention to what I am writing, not what you hear in your head.

1247 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:51:33am

re: #1228 MandyManners

I wonder why the NFL has decided this year to not allow the USMC color guard to stay for the game.

I will let you know Mandy.. My God father works for the NFL.. I sent him an email and have not received a reply.. I'll keep the lizards posted..
My kid at Camp P. always got free tickets to see the Angles and the Chargers..
This story is very disturbing on so many levels..There will be a Million emails in this next week over this issue..

1248 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:51:39am

re: #1233 outsidephilly

Wasn't it something about paying for their own seats?

But, why THIS year?

1249 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:52:07am

re: #1240 Erik The Red

How much per square?

If you make under 250,000 200,000 150,000 $ 75,000 a year the squares are free

1250 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:52:27am

Here is the list. I am going to have to figure out how to do a poll thingy on my site so as to not hijack Charles' site (as if I had to talent, right?)

Operation True Freedom
Operation Honco
People Of Principle Concerned with Obama's Radical Notions (POPCORN)
Operation Fight Back
Operation Hope
Operation ONE Response
Operation Restore Freedom

Did I miss anyone's ideas?

1251 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:52:35am

re: #1236 Nevergiveup

Fair enough. I assume you mean a revolution at the ballot box anyway? It's just as one who has taken an oath to protect this country against all enemies both foreign and domestic, talk about any other type if revolution is a touchy subject. Anyway since it's a slow news day, gotta get the blood flowing some how?

the feds are your enemy...

1252 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:52:48am

re: #1242 outsidephilly

Yep, funny beyond funny!

Peter Marshall: Is it normal for Norwegians to talk to trees?
Paul Lynde: As long as that's as far as it goes.

1253 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:52:53am

re: #1238 Taqyia2Me

Blimey - I cannot believe your wife's boss did that!
You're not living in the former Soviet Union, are you?

This is indeed serious!

1254 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:53:11am

re: #1226 realwest

Sorry Walter, but if we can't change it through the ballot box and you're advocating changing it by armed revolution, count me out.
We've been down that road and I have no intention of killing another American unless it's in literal self-defense.
And if you didn't mean armed revolution, then how do you propose we "fix things" if our votes don't count?

The ballot box still work. But that is slipping. (ACORN, WA '04, MN '08)
Free speech is under assault.
100 million armed Americans is the final DETERRENCE. But Obama and Holder would change that if they could.

I am not advocating Revolution.
I am saying be prepared should a tyrant rise and brings about one.

1255 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:53:16am

re: #1247 HoosierHoops

I will let you know Mandy.. My God father works for the NFL.. I sent him an email and have not received a reply.. I'll keep the lizards posted..
My kid at Camp P. always got free tickets to see the Angles and the Chargers..
This story is very disturbing on so many levels..There will be a Million emails in this next week over this issue..

I hope so.

1256 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:53:26am

re: #1248 MandyManners

But, why THIS year?

I have no answer to that question . . .

1257 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:53:38am

re: #1226 realwest

Sorry Walter, but if we can't change it through the ballot box and you're advocating changing it by armed revolution, count me out.
We've been down that road and I have no intention of killing another American unless it's in literal self-defense.
And if you didn't mean armed revolution, then how do you propose we "fix things" if our votes don't count?


You beat me to it. This was qan election , the won as heinous as that is.
This is the will of the people.
We talked the flip side the other day & there was sentiment that the Constitution & Bill of Rights protected us from a dictatorship.
I disagree, those documents can be subverted. History is full of legally constituted governments being overthrown.
I do not see anything like that happening & we need to recapture the Congress in two years & vote Obama out in four years.

1258 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:53:44am

re: #1251 albusteve

the feds are your enemy...

If I'm in the Military am I a Fed?

1259 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:53:55am

re: #1242 outsidephilly

Yep, funny beyond funny!

Peter Marshall: The Great White is one of the most feared animals. What is the Great White?
Paul Lynde: A sheriff in Alabama.

1260 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:53:58am

re: #1247 HoosierHoops

I will let you know Mandy.. My God father works for the NFL.. I sent him an email and have not received a reply.. I'll keep the lizards posted..
My kid at Camp P. always got free tickets to see the Angles and the Chargers..
This story is very disturbing on so many levels..There will be a Million emails in this next week over this issue..

agreed...I'm interested

1261 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:54:13am

re: #1250 ArmyWife

Here is the list. I am going to have to figure out how to do a poll thingy on my site so as to not hijack Charles' site (as if I had to talent, right?)

Operation True Freedom
Operation Honco
People Of Principle Concerned with Obama's Radical Notions (POPCORN)
Operation Fight Back
Operation Hope
Operation ONE Response
Operation Restore Freedom

Did I miss anyone's ideas?

I think it should be short, descriptive and call for action.

1262 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:54:19am

re: #1241 esch

O's not smart/competent enough to succeed as a tyrant. But if we don't fight tooth and nail, he'll put in place a system that will enable one.

Think of another O that actually is as smart as O thinks he is.

Wry LOL! You may very well be right.

1263 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:54:25am

Prior to the election the Blue Dog Coalition had 43 members. It probably has a few more after.

Democrats now hold a 257-178 majority in the House.

Swing 50 votes and you get 207 to 228. "Stimulus" then goes back to committee for actual compromise.

1264 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:54:30am

re: #1236 Nevergiveup

Fair enough. I assume you mean a revolution at the ballot box anyway? It's just as one who has taken an oath to protect this country against all enemies both foreign and domestic, talk about any other type if revolution is a touchy subject. Anyway since it's a slow news day, gotta get the blood flowing some how?

No, I am talking about ARMED revolution. But my point, over and over (it seems) is I'M NOT CALLING FOR IT, nor would I support it, but I think it is going to happen. And second, I don't think our vote counts for anything but to grease the pockets of Big Money (and you can define Big Money as you please).

Why is this so hard for anyone to understand?

1265 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:54:37am

re: #1246 Walter L. Newton

Tarred, feathered, and ridden out of town on a rail. An American tradition! My advice: On Monday, try the ox tail soup! ;-)

1266 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:54:40am

re: #1252 Dustyvet

Peter Marshall: Is it normal for Norwegians to talk to trees?
Paul Lynde: As long as that's as far as it goes.

keep 'em coming!

1267 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:54:42am

re: #1249 shug

If you make under 250,000 200,000 150,000 $ 75,000 a year the squares are free

good one...ha

1268 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:54:46am

re: #1234 quickjustice

French poodles are very smart beasts. One ought not mess with them.

This one was an undercover CIA operative. Grrr, good dog!

1269 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:54:52am

re: #1245 albusteve

the game takes three hours or more to play...the party is a once in a lifetime monster when held in the right town...it's a purely American thing and we love it...money is no object at that point

3 hours to complete 1 hour of play time. I love the game and if it were my hometown maybe. Rather have a huge party at home. Love watching live sport but also like instant replay and pause on the dvr.

1270 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:54:57am

re: #1251 albusteve

the feds are your enemy...

That is the Founding Fathers' worst nightmare.

1271 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:55:08am

re: #1255 MandyManners

They are not making change in the policy - the color guard has always gone to another area to watch on wide screens with food, etc. BUT that isn't right - 12 people staying on the sidelines shouldn't be a big deal.

1272 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:55:36am

re: #1266 outsidephilly

keep 'em coming!

Peter Marshall: Paul, can anything bring tears to a chimp's eyes?
Paul Lynde: Finding out that Tarzan swings both ways!

1273 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:55:59am

re: #1259 Dustyvet

Peter Marshall: The Great White is one of the most feared animals. What is the Great White?
Paul Lynde: A sheriff in Alabama.

more, more (and your karma will go sky high!)

1274 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:55:59am

re: #1256 outsidephilly

I have no answer to that question . . .

I have my suspicions but to voice them might make me sound like a conspiracy nut.

1275 esch  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:56:01am

There need to Equal Protection lawsuits regarding the background check and ammunition restriction tactics. Ammunition is a fundamental part of the firearm and as such needs to be included in the protection of the amendment.

1276 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:56:32am

re: #1258 Nevergiveup

If I'm in the Military am I a Fed?

Do you make policy?

1277 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:56:36am

re: #1250 ArmyWife

Here is the list. I am going to have to figure out how to do a poll thingy on my site so as to not hijack Charles' site (as if I had to talent, right?)

Operation True Freedom
Operation Honco
People Of Principle Concerned with Obama's Radical Notions (POPCORN)
Operation Fight Back
Operation Hope
Operation ONE Response
Operation Restore Freedom

Did I miss anyone's ideas?

Operation Bitch Slap

1278 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:56:44am

re: #1258 Nevergiveup

If I'm in the Military am I a Fed?

probably not but that's for you to decide

1279 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:56:51am

re: #1222 JCM

I'll repost the following quote to support your arguement.

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
-Thomas Jefferson

It will not be the people that bring about a revolution.
It will be the tyrant.

1280 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:56:54am

re: #1273 outsidephilly

more, more (and your karma will go sky high!)

Here Have a scream...:)

[Link: www.classicsquares.com...]

1281 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:57:09am

re: #1238 Taqyia2Me

It's on:
Anecdotally, I applied for my FOID here in Illinois card before the election and I am still waiting, no response to my email inquiries and the contact tele # has been always busy. The website where I got the application form stated that it would take 30 days to process. Instant return of Clinton era tactics.
Also anecdotally, my wife, a state employee, while leaving after work Wednesday, was encountered by her boss, who advised her to stop listening to Rush because he is so full of hate and now that we have the best president in the last 100 years, we need to stop all that hate. Projection.
It's ALL at risk folks, please treat it as such.

re: #1250 ArmyWife

Here is the list. I am going to have to figure out how to do a poll thingy on my site so as to not hijack Charles' site (as if I had to talent, right?)

Operation True Freedom
Operation Honco
People Of Principle Concerned with Obama's Radical Notions (POPCORN)
Operation Fight Back
Operation Hope
Operation ONE Response
Operation Restore Freedom

Did I miss anyone's ideas?

Operation Fight Oppression
Operation Fight Political Predators

1282 esch  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:57:20am

re: #1262 JCM

Everybody better pray that I am at this point. 8P

1283 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:57:40am

re: #1263 karmic_inquisitor

Prior to the election the Blue Dog Coalition had 43 members. It probably has a few more after.

Democrats now hold a 257-178 majority in the House.

Swing 50 votes and you get 207 to 228. "Stimulus" then goes back to committee for actual compromise.

Precisely.

1284 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:57:54am

Operation feetballs
Operation Offend Reza
Operation Weet Dreams
Operation Ron Paul ( if you don't include him, there will be the obvious problems )

1285 NYCHardhat  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:58:09am

The next four years do not look good for my liver.

1286 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:58:22am

re: #1274 MandyManners

I have my suspicions but to voice them might make me sound like a conspiracy nut.

And we all know you're not a conspiracy nut

1287 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:58:24am

re: #1277 Erik The Red

Operation Bitch Slap

Hey! Lets leave Michelle out of this!
/

1288 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:58:33am

FWIW, I am going to look at building a target list for the Pelosi Pork Package (P3) and post what I find later today.

One thing that will be key is to identify that saying "I won" was a key mistake by Obama - these members need to be reminded that Republicans defected to get them in office, and Republicans defected to get Obama elected - a call for "Change" won. Ramping up deficits for pork projects is not change. Not in the least.

1289 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:58:39am

re: #1271 ArmyWife

They are not making change in the policy - the color guard has always gone to another area to watch on wide screens with food, etc. BUT that isn't right - 12 people staying on the sidelines shouldn't be a big deal.

Please explain what happened in the past and what the difference is this year.

1290 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:58:46am

re: #1275 esch

There need to Equal Protection lawsuits regarding the background check and ammunition restriction tactics. Ammunition is a fundamental part of the firearm and as such needs to be included in the protection of the amendment.

Bingo.

1291 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:59:07am

re: #1280 Dustyvet

Here Have a scream...:)

[Link: www.classicsquares.com...]



thanks!

1292 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:59:29am

Well , if we are planning a resistance, I volunteer to take & hold Kannapali Beach in Maui!

1293 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 8:59:55am

re: #1221 Bloodnok
Huh? Take me for what book? IF y'all mean the Superbowl, then take the Cardnials and the points.
Remember, last year the Giants were playing against a PERFECT TEAM and were 12+1/2 point underdogs for all two weeks before the game.
I'd prefer that Arizona had a better defense, but I'd still take 'em and the points.

1294 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:00:01am

re: #1257 opnion

You beat me to it. This was qan election , the won as heinous as that is.
This is the will of the people.
We talked the flip side the other day & there was sentiment that the Constitution & Bill of Rights protected us from a dictatorship.
I disagree, those documents can be subverted. History is full of legally constituted governments being overthrown.
I do not see anything like that happening & we need to recapture the Congress in two years & vote Obama out in four years.

I don't know if it was the will of the people. Obama hid his true agenda - talked tax cuts, and reducing abortions, and acted like he was pro business - most people didn't understand what a capital gains hike would mean to the economy. They want universal health care, but they don't want what Universal health care will actually deliver.

This was political predation, these are grifters and confidence men - con men.

1295 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:00:10am

re: #1276 MandyManners

Do you make policy?

I sometimes conspire to circumvent policy? But no, that's normally above my pay grade.

1296 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:00:17am

re: #1292 opnion

Well , if we are planning a resistance, I volunteer to take & hold Kannapali Beach in Maui!

I'll have your back on that one.

1297 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:00:38am

re: #1286 outsidephilly

And we all know you're not a conspiracy nut

Just call me MandyMacadamia.

1298 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:00:42am

RoP in Germany...
Berlin takes Al Qaeda video threat seriously

Berlin is seriously taking an Internet threat by presumed Al-Qaeda militants warning of imminent attacks on three German cities, the interior ministry said Saturday.

“This video confirms our belief that jihadist propaganda against Germany has taken a new dimension,” the ministry said in a statement, referring to a clip posted on YouTube.

“In these types of documents, Germany is explicitly threatened, in the German language,” it said.

In the video message aired last week, the militants said Germans were “gullible and naive” if they thought they could “escape unscathed when they are the third occupation force in Afghanistan.”

“We are going to send an army into your cities, in particular Berlin, Cologne and Bremen,” they said, cited by the German weekly Focus magazine.

“Germany and four other countries will have problems beginning in February 2009,” the militants said in the video, which was pulled from the website January 12.

While a spokesman for German criminal police, BKA, said the exact origin of the video had not been identified, Focus magazine reported that it featured German converts to Islam.

1299 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:01:13am

re: #1288 karmic_inquisitor

FWIW, I am going to look at building a target list for the Pelosi Pork Package (P3) and post what I find later today.

One thing that will be key is to identify that saying "I won" was a key mistake by Obama - these members need to be reminded that Republicans defected to get them in office, and Republicans defected to get Obama elected - a call for "Change" won. Ramping up deficits for pork projects is not change. Not in the least.

The economic stimulus package is full of pork, pork under a different name, it's a sham and a ruse. Nothing is new, and the same thing would have happened if a Republican got elected.

They are giving the farm away.

1300 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:01:37am

re: #1270 MandyManners

Not really. The system the Founding Fathers created had a weaker federal government, and stronger state governments, relatively speaking. In addition, the U.S. Senators were selected by vote of the state legislatures, not popularly.

FDR fundamentally changed the relationship between federal and state governments, strengthening the federal and weakening the states.

Our first step should be to get political control of as many state governments as possible. That provides a base for a national rebound. And remember: the 2010 census, which redistributes congressional seats and provides a basis for redrawing all legislative districts, is next year. Keep an eye on that census. It's a big deal, politically speaking.

1301 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:01:43am

re: #1296 Erik The Red

I'll have your back on that one.

I'll bring the sunscreen!

1302 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:01:49am

re: #1289 MandyManners

In the past, they would present the colors, and then they would be escorted to a separate location to watch on big screen TVs, plus they get food, beverages, etc. It's the same area where the 1/2 time talent goes to watch the game (except the big names, who GET to watch the game free, and that is where the rub is for me personally). I don't want to blog pimp, but I have a round up on this situation there, if you want to go to the site.

1303 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:01:53am

re: #1275 esch

There need to Equal Protection lawsuits regarding the background check and ammunition restriction tactics. Ammunition is a fundamental part of the firearm and as such needs to be included in the protection of the amendment.

Reminds me of that song "I got a brand-new pair of roller-skates".

1304 Bloodnok  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:01:53am

re: #1293 realwest

Huh? Take me for what book? IF y'all mean the Superbowl, then take the Cardnials and the points.
Remember, last year the Giants were playing against a PERFECT TEAM and were 12+1/2 point underdogs for all two weeks before the game.
I'd prefer that Arizona had a better defense, but I'd still take 'em and the points.

"Hollywood Squares" reference. "for the block.."

1305 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:02:34am

re: #1299 Walter L. Newton

The economic stimulus package is full of pork, pork under a different name, it's a sham and a ruse. Nothing is new, and the same thing would have happened if a Republican got elected.

They are giving the farm away.

McCain was genuinely anti-pork so he may have put up a fight. We'll see how he behaves on this mega-porkster.

1306 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:02:41am

re: #1296 Erik The Red

I'll have your back on that one.


This could be an extended deployment & we will have to look like partying tourists to confuse our enemy.

1307 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:02:49am

re: #1270 MandyManners

That is the Founding Fathers' worst nightmare.

of course it is...and it scares me to death too...this beast has infiltrated every aspect of our lives bullying and legislating and using the courts to control us...the exact anithesis of what it was designed for...it's been highjacked by power brokers we can hardly imagine...govt is the biggest business on the face of the planet...it no longer governs it rules...

1308 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:03:03am

re: #1292 opnion

Sorry. You are late to the game and Mandy and I have drawn up jurisdictions. We took that one. You can have...let me see what's left...umm...Poughkeepsie, or Battleboro, VT. Which shall it be?

1309 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:03:25am

re: #1297 MandyManners

Just call me MandyMacadamia.

As long as I don't have to do the Macarana (did I spell the name of that dopey dance right?)

1310 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:03:30am

Wot's all this then?

1311 esch  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:03:35am

re: #1303 MandyManners

Reminds me of that song "I got a brand-new pair of roller-skates".

Hmm not ringing a bell here, but that's not uncommon. 8)

1312 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:03:36am

re: #1302 ArmyWife

In the past, they would present the colors, and then they would be escorted to a separate location to watch on big screen TVs, plus they get food, beverages, etc. It's the same area where the 1/2 time talent goes to watch the game (except the big names, who GET to watch the game free, and that is where the rub is for me personally). I don't want to blog pimp, but I have a round up on this situation there, if you want to go to the site.

This year they don't even get to go there?

1313 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:04:08am

re: #1305 DistantThunder

McCain was genuinely anti-pork so he may have put up a fight. We'll see how he behaves on this mega-porkster.

Yea, so anti-pork that he RAN to DC to vote the first bag of money into the hands of Big Money. Sure, tell me another fairy tale.

1314 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:04:27am

re: #1300 quickjustice

Not really. The system the Founding Fathers created had a weaker federal government, and stronger state governments, relatively speaking. In addition, the U.S. Senators were selected by vote of the state legislatures, not popularly.

FDR fundamentally changed the relationship between federal and state governments, strengthening the federal and weakening the states.

Our first step should be to get political control of as many state governments as possible. That provides a base for a national rebound. And remember: the 2010 census, which redistributes congressional seats and provides a basis for redrawing all legislative districts, is next year. Keep an eye on that census. It's a big deal, politically speaking.

Sign up to get a 2010 census job - keep em honest. Because otherwise it will be all those busy ACORN people.

1315 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:04:27am

re: #1312 MandyManners

This year they don't even get to go there?

No they do.

1316 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:05:01am

re: #1299 Walter L. Newton

The economic stimulus package is full of pork, pork under a different name, it's a sham and a ruse. Nothing is new, and the same thing would have happened if a Republican got elected.

They are giving the farm away.

Not at this scale.

Republicans would have focused on getting businesses to start investing again - Accelerated Depreciation rules and tax cuts would make that happen.

Instead, the only tax cut portion is to hand "tax cuts" to people who don't pay taxes, which will quickly go to buy consumer products from China. Net is a zero stimulus. The rest is largely pork. There is some needed infrastructure stuff, but that is not stimulative - capital projects take a long time to plan and spend so the dollars don't flow for a long time.

BBL

1317 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:05:02am

re: #1312 MandyManners

No, they are going, they are doing the same thing they do every year. This year, however, they wanted to know why they couldn't stay like the do for OTHER games they present the colors for, on the sidelines, rather than go to the off site location.

1318 nyc redneck  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:05:03am

re: #1238 Taqyia2Me

It's on:
Anecdotally, I applied for my FOID here in Illinois card before the election and I am still waiting, no response to my email inquiries and the contact tele # has been always busy. The website where I got the application form stated that it would take 30 days to process. Instant return of Clinton era tactics.
Also anecdotally, my wife, a state employee, while leaving after work Wednesday, was encountered by her boss, who advised her to stop listening to Rush because he is so full of hate and now that we have the best president in the last 100 years, we need to stop all that hate. Projection.
It's ALL at risk folks, please treat it as such.

these jerks, attacking rush, are doing so because he makes sense and appeals to people who have not put their ability to think, on hold.
this is why they tried so desperately to destroy sarah palin. and ronald reagan. who they view as the ultimate threat.
the left knows that conservatism is abt. common sense and basic values and they know they must silence those who can speak plainly and galvanize people.
calling what rush says, "hate speech" is absurd. they try to demonize the truth because it can undermine all their lies.

1319 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:05:10am

re: #1306 opnion

This could be an extended deployment & we will have to look like partying tourists to confuse our enemy.

Sound like I will fit in just fine.

1320 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:05:16am

re: #1300 quickjustice

Not really. The system the Founding Fathers created had a weaker federal government, and stronger state governments, relatively speaking. In addition, the U.S. Senators were selected by vote of the state legislatures, not popularly.

FDR fundamentally changed the relationship between federal and state governments, strengthening the federal and weakening the states.

Our first step should be to get political control of as many state governments as possible. That provides a base for a national rebound. And remember: the 2010 census, which redistributes congressional seats and provides a basis for redrawing all legislative districts, is next year. Keep an eye on that census. It's a big deal, politically speaking.

Lincoln also weakened Federalist system. It was part of the fall out of the Civil War that States Rights where more limited than before.

I know a few Paulbots that for this reason think Lincoln is the worst thing that ever happened.

Lincoln preserved the Union and freed the slaves. The cost was at the expense of some states individual power.

I happen to think the price paid for Union, and Liberty was worth it.

1321 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:05:29am

re: #1292 opnion

Well , if we are planning a resistance, I volunteer to take & hold Kannapali Beach in Maui!

hahaha!...need volunteers?

1322 esch  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:05:54am

re: #1307 albusteve

Heinlein nailed it decades ago:

* In a mature society, "civil servant" is semantically equal to "civil master."

1323 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:05:56am

re: #1311 esch

Hmm not ringing a bell here, but that's not uncommon. 8)

Here.


1324 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:06:04am

re: #1308 ArmyWife

Sorry. You are late to the game and Mandy and I have drawn up jurisdictions. We took that one. You can have...let me see what's left...umm...Poughkeepsie, or Battleboro, VT. Which shall it be?

REVOLT

1325 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:06:05am

Is there something I've posted at LGF that makes people think it's OK to discuss having an armed revolution in the US at my site?

Because it's NOT OK, and I really do not appreciate this kind of extremist fantasizing. I've deleted the comments that are edging up to openly supporting this stupid, destructive, idiotic idea, but if this continues I'll start blocking accounts.

I suggest Free Republic or one of the Ron Paul sites if you really need to fantasize about this stuff. I don't want it here, period.

1326 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:06:20am

re: #1253 yma o hyd

Blimey - I cannot believe your wife's boss did that!
You're not living in the former Soviet Union, are you?

This is indeed serious!

I hope it turns out my wife's boss was simply having a horribly inappropriate moment. She (the boss) had been a good and nice boss until that moment.
But the Rush Limbaugh attack sure is seeming to me to be part of some script that seems to be playing out.

1327 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:06:54am

re: #1320 JCM

Lincoln also weakened Federalist system. It was part of the fall out of the Civil War that States Rights where more limited than before.

I know a few Paulbots that for this reason think Lincoln is the worst thing that ever happened.

Lincoln preserved the Union and freed the slaves. The cost was at the expense of some states individual power.

I happen to think the price paid for Union, and Liberty was worth it.

Thomas Sowell just had a piece on this: Lincoln only freed the slaves in the south - not the north.

1328 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:06:58am

re: #1316 karmic_inquisitor

Not at this scale.

Republicans would have focused on getting businesses to start investing again - Accelerated Depreciation rules and tax cuts would make that happen.

Instead, the only tax cut portion is to hand "tax cuts" to people who don't pay taxes, which will quickly go to buy consumer products from China. Net is a zero stimulus. The rest is largely pork. There is some needed infrastructure stuff, but that is not stimulative - capital projects take a long time to plan and spend so the dollars don't flow for a long time.

BBL

Not at any scale, I don't want our money, my money given away to cover up the fuck ups of Big Business. Period.

1329 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:07:53am

re: #1309 outsidephilly

As long as I don't have to do the Macarana (did I spell the name of that dopey dance right?)

Macarena

1330 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:07:59am

My nic has my email on it now. Please send any other OPERATION XXX suggestions there, so it's easier for me to keep track. I am going to put a poll with the names on my site, and our intended goals for phase one. If y'all think a link from my site to a repository of info in an of itself is a better idea, let me know that, too.

Still need a volunteer to write our customizable template. For those who don't have a fax machine, I can fax on your behalf.

Global warming is falling outside!

1331 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:08:07am

re: #1246 Walter L. Newton
I am paying FUCKING ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU WRITE. You said TFK was right that it's a two party money cult and if you think your vote counts look at the last eight years and say that - or words to that effect.
I also said, now PAY FUCKING ATTENTION, "And if you didn't mean armed revolution, then how do you propose we "fix things" if our votes don't count?"
And I still haven't seen any semblance of a reasonable response to that.

1332 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:08:13am

I thought we were talking about a political revolt - using the the media and internet - an organized effort to sway public opinion.

1333 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:08:18am

re: #1195 HoosierHoops

Whoa! almost 1200 posts and not one delete!
I'm proud of you {deleted } Lizards today!

jinx

1334 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:08:34am

re: #1320 JCM

You're historically correct, but I'm not attacking the Founding Fathers or Lincoln. It was FDR who created the modern welfare state from which we suffer today, transferring massive power from states to federal government in the process.

Read about it here: [Link: www.amazon.com...]

1335 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:08:54am

re: #1325 Charles

Is there something I've posted at LGF that makes people think it's OK to discuss having an armed revolution in the US at my site?

Because it's NOT OK, and I really do not appreciate this kind of extremist fantasizing. I've deleted the comments that are edging up to openly supporting this stupid, destructive, idiotic idea, but if this continues I'll start blocking accounts.

I suggest Free Republic or one of the Ron Paul sites if you really need to fantasize about this stuff. I don't want it here, period.

Noted, ok with me.

1336 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:09:01am

re: #1329 Erik The Red

Macarena

[Video]



heheheee

1337 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:09:51am

re: #1325 Charles

Is there something I've posted at LGF that makes people think it's OK to discuss having an armed revolution in the US at my site?

Because it's NOT OK, and I really do not appreciate this kind of extremist fantasizing. I've deleted the comments that are edging up to openly supporting this stupid, destructive, idiotic idea, but if this continues I'll start blocking accounts.

I suggest Free Republic or one of the Ron Paul sites if you really need to fantasize about this stuff. I don't want it here, period.

I apologize, and will cease and desist. I tried to thread the needle between preparedness and advocacy but failed.

I'm sorry and will stay away from the subject in the future.

1338 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:09:53am

re: #1231 MandyManners

Every time we hold an election and those we elect are sworn into office is a revolution.

Actually, I'm not crazy about that metaphor. I heard too many moonbats blathering about how The Coming Of The One this past Tuesday was just exactly like the Velvet Revolution! As if Bush were a communist dictator who had to be driven from power, rather than a democratically elected leader who respected the Constitution and tradition, peacefully and cooperatively ceding power.

1339 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:10:08am

I think it was a mis-insinuation.

1340 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:10:09am

re: #1332 DistantThunder

That is my intent, nothing more. I will NOT take part in anything beyond that, nor will I be associated in anything resembling that. Plain and simple. I thought that was pretty clear, I hope that was clear.

1341 esch  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:10:35am

re: #1323 MandyManners

Thanks. Good song.

1342 albusteve  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:10:43am

re: #1322 esch

Heinlein nailed it decades ago:

* In a mature society, "civil servant" is semantically equal to "civil master."

I remember...I'll have to break out Heinlein again

1343 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:10:46am

re: #1188 outsidephilly

Hope I'm not overstepping my boundaries here . . . , what do mean you have to help the hubby get the son up?

My son is severely disabled, so he can't do it himself. And this morning, he decided to leave a little big brown present! How thoughtful.

1344 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:10:52am

re: #1334 quickjustice

You're historically correct, but I'm not attacking the Founding Fathers or Lincoln. It was FDR who created the modern welfare state from which we suffer today, transferring massive power from states to federal government in the process.

Read about it here: [Link: www.amazon.com...]

Absolutely. FDR was the progenitor of the welfare, government nanny state.

1345 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:11:16am

re: #1314 DistantThunder

Sign up to get a 2010 census job - keep em honest. Because otherwise it will be all those busy ACORN people.

Needs repeating - this is indeed very important, gerrymandering means the party in power remains in power.

Don't let it happen!

1346 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:12:03am

re: #1343 vxbush

. . . , a little present, aye?
How old is the lad?

1347 n in wi  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:12:16am

re: #1344 JCM

Absolutely. FDR was the progenitor of the welfare, government nanny state.


And Wilson before him.

1348 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:12:32am

re: #1338 Occasional Reader

Actually, I'm not crazy about that metaphor. I heard too many moonbats blathering about how The Coming Of The One this past Tuesday was just exactly like the Velvet Revolution! As if Bush were a communist dictator who had to be driven from power, rather than a democratically elected leader who respected the Constitution and tradition, peacefully and cooperatively ceding power.

Usually hugs and cheek kisses do not go along with a velvet revolution. And we saw Pres. Bush, one of the most gracious and classiest men ever, turn the other cheek against all the political and personal insults.

Now obama has poked his finger in the eyes of conservatives and Republicans - but is still blathering on about unity.

1349 esch  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:12:42am

re: #1342 albusteve

I remember...I'll have to break out Heinlein again

At this point in our history, I highly recommend him for any reasonably intelligent right-leaning people.

The 'Crazy Years' are definitely here.

1350 Gort  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:12:44am

re: #1288 karmic_inquisitor

FWIW, I am going to look at building a target list for the Pelosi Pork Package (P3) and post what I find later today.
...

Looking forward to it and thanks in advance for the effort.

/But we could just wait for the gub-mint to tell us everything we need to know, according to The Plan:

Full transparency. When the plan is enacted, all citizens will have the ability to see how recovery funds your confiscated wages are spent on a new webpropaganda site, www.recovery.gov.

(couldn't resist some fixes)

1351 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:12:48am

re: #1317 ArmyWife

No, they are going, they are doing the same thing they do every year. This year, however, they wanted to know why they couldn't stay like the do for OTHER games they present the colors for, on the sidelines, rather than go to the off site location.

So, this year is no different than previous years. Hmmm.

1352 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:12:55am

re: #1325 Charles
Thanks Charles - too bad that comment of yours only got 4 updings, though.

1353 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:13:17am

re: #1340 ArmyWife

That is my intent, nothing more. I will NOT take part in anything beyond that, nor will I be associated in anything resembling that. Plain and simple. I thought that was pretty clear, I hope that was clear.

That's what I thought. I thought you were clear.

1354 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:13:51am

re: #1264 Walter L. Newton

I don't think our vote counts for anything but to grease the pockets of Big Money (and you can define Big Money as you please).

Frankly, that looks like sloppy moonbat-think to me.
Yes, whoever wins a national election, money will flow one way or another. So what? It's like claiming that since contractors are making money in Iraq, THEREFORE the invasion of Iraq was undertaken so that contractors can make money.

1355 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:14:42am

Who said there were no deleted comments on this thread? I guess you are wrong now///

1356 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:14:59am

re: #1326 Taqyia2Me

I hope it turns out my wife's boss was simply having a horribly inappropriate moment. She (the boss) had been a good and nice boss until that moment.
But the Rush Limbaugh attack sure is seeming to me to be part of some script that seems to be playing out.

I agree - as far as I can judge, looking at it from the outside.
I somehow don't think this remark came just out of thin air, seeing that PB0 has said the same.
Looks as if its been talked about inside party and community organisation headquarters.
Its how the neostalinist Left works.

1357 VegasRick  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:15:00am

re: #1351 MandyManners

So, this year is no different than previous years. Hmmm.

Much ado about nothing. We need to stop doing that.

1358 opnion  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:15:20am

re: #1308 ArmyWife

Sorry. You are late to the game and Mandy and I have drawn up jurisdictions. We took that one. You can have...let me see what's left...umm...Poughkeepsie, or Battleboro, VT. Which shall it be?

I will not take my Liberation Forces to Newark. I just won't

1359 realwest  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:15:51am

I'm outta here now folks - hope I get the chance to see you all down the road.

1360 wiffersnapper  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:16:34am

Does Circuit City get a bailout now?

1361 shug  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:17:01am
You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We'd all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know
We'd all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Don't you know it's gonna be alright
1362 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:17:16am

My vote counts: We live in a small town in South Jersey in the only Republican county in south Jersey. Once we were running late to vote ina school budget election and we debated going. We ran down at the last minute and voted no on a big budget increase.

We were shocked when we saw the totals the next day - the budget failed by 2 votes - out of several thousand. We were so glad we bothered to vote.

1363 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:17:54am

re: #1354 Occasional Reader

Frankly, that looks like sloppy moonbat-think to me.
Yes, whoever wins a national election, money will flow one way or another. So what? It's like claiming that since contractors are making money in Iraq, THEREFORE the invasion of Iraq was undertaken so that contractors can make money.

Well, then I sound moonbatty. It's my contention that Big Money controls what happens, so, it doesn't matter who is in office, it doesn't matter what has been promised, the money will go to those who are want it.

I'm sorry, this last election cycle has exposed this right out there, front page, nothing is hidden. Bush was handing the money away left and right, now Obama is upping the stakes, but it's all flowing to the same folks.

Plutocracy (with a dab of kleptocracy thrown in)

1364 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:18:06am

re: #1360 wiffersnapper

Does Circuit City get a bailout now?

No but maybe a tacky funeral?

1365 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:18:35am

re: #1334 quickjustice

You're historically correct, but I'm not attacking the Founding Fathers or Lincoln. It was FDR who created the modern welfare state from which we suffer today, transferring massive power from states to federal government in the process.

Read about it here: [Link: www.amazon.com...]

Excellent book!
Here's another one, going more into the political side of things, and its effects on the USA generally:
New Deal or Raw Deal?: How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America
I recommend it - you can use it to predict what PB0 will do next ...

1366 abolitionist  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:18:43am

re: #479 MandyManners

[snip]
One of my first tasks here was to learn more about the Haj.

He made one of the first blood for oil deals -- carte blanch to spill Jewish blood anywhere in the muslim world, as part of a sweetheart deal with the Third Reich for Iraqi oil.

1367 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:18:43am

re: #1356 yma o hyd

I agree - as far as I can judge, looking at it from the outside.
I somehow don't think this remark came just out of thin air, seeing that PB0 has said the same.
Looks as if its been talked about inside party and community organisation headquarters.
Its how the neostalinist Left works.

Communists have never tried to take over a free society with cable, radio and internet. It will be interesting to see how well this works for them.

1368 debutaunt  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:18:56am

re: #1361 shug

Those darn hippies sure tended to repeat themselves.

1369 ArmyWife  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:19:00am

re: #1353 DistantThunder

Good, because I think we have an idea here that will make a difference. I don't want it to die on the vine or be taken over by craziness.

1370 SillyAllah  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:19:18am

Saw this in the comments by a Neil Turner on Ynetnews story to the BBC turning down Gaza appeal:


See below for the usual BBC / Channel 4 / Sky News guidelines for Israel...

1. always accept the Palestinian version without question

2. interview at least 8 Palestinian supporters to every Israeli supporter

3. assume the UN is impartial, and a shining beacon of justice in a dark world

4. assume any video / photos provided by Palestinians are always reliable - never question their veracity. It’s probably not worth bothering viewers with the fact that much of the media is doctored or staged – this will only confuse them

5. gloss over the last 60 years of history (never mention how 6 Arab armies tried to destroy Israel in '48, '67, and '73)

6. don't report how Hamas (etc) bully, torture and murder their own people, or misappropriate aid/finance (or if you do, play it down)

7. NEVER mention that Iran / Hamas / Fatah have vowed to destroy Israel and kill every Jew in the world (if you do mention it, assume they don't really mean it)

8. Report only the words that Fatah say in English, never what they say in Arabic

9. if you interview an Israeli (or misguided supporter such as Colonel Kemp, Mark Regev), make sure you interrupt them frequently. If you're coming off second best, tell them you're running out of time

10. if interviewing a Palestinian (or Annie Lennox, Alexei Sayle), make sure you ask them lots of really open questions, allowing lots of time to air their views without interruption - nod frequently to show your support. Don’t interrupt them, as this is disrespectful

11. above all, the tone of your voice should exhibit disapproval towards Israel, and sympathy towards Palestinians

12. ensure you use the word "occupation" as much as you can (don't get involved in meaningless discussions concerning how Israel either paid huge sums for swamps / wilderness in '48, or won it when arabs declared war on them)

13. never report anti-semitic attacks/incidents from the UK or elsewhere (we are unsure as to why these are increasing, but certain it has nothing to do with how we are portraying the situation)

14. don't report Pro-Israel activity such as marches – nobody cares, and these people are misguided anyway. If the politicians from all parties turn a blind eye, why shouldn’t we ?

15. if you get the facts wrong (Israel murders 1000’s in Bethlehem), never issue an apology or retraction

16. It is probably more news-worthy if you paint Israel as the aggressor – so don’t mention that Hamas launched over 6,000 rockets into Israel after Israel had vacated the Gaza strip

17. On proportionality, probably not worth mentioning comparisons with civilian casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, or WW2 Germany (this will only confuse people). The fact that Hamas deliberately booby-trapped civilian homes and made people go into them, we are sure, has nothing to do with civilian casualties...

15. probably not worth mentioning the Bible – Jesus, a Jew, born in Bethlehem, visiting the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem (this is only 2000 years of history anyway...)


Note to Producers – make sure that when interviews are taking place that you loop some video showing ultra-left wing Norwegian doctors running after ambulances performing chest compression on live patients, and female Hamas supporters screaming uncontrollably about how their terrorist husbands were mercilessly martyred by the IDF. Remember, it really doesn’t matter what the interview says because people will remember the images

1371 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:20:18am

re: #1362 DistantThunder

My vote counts: We live in a small town in South Jersey in the only Republican county in south Jersey. Once we were running late to vote ina school budget election and we debated going. We ran down at the last minute and voted no on a big budget increase.

We were shocked when we saw the totals the next day - the budget failed by 2 votes - out of several thousand. We were so glad we bothered to vote.

Now stop that, you're supposed to be wailing about how you're a mere pawn to the cigar-smoking plutocrats.

/

1372 DistantThunder  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:20:44am

What is the origin of the name Jerusalem?

1373 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:21:57am

re: #1371 Occasional Reader

Now stop that, you're supposed to be wailing about how you're a mere pawn to the cigar-smoking plutocrats.

/

Shit happens.
/

1374 alegrias  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:22:07am

Thank you Charles for clearing the air.

Your example of exposing fallacies with facts, during the Throbbing TANG Fake Memo affair, should be a lesson to us.

We can "fight" fake hopen change with truth, facts, reason. We can start locally.

1375 psyop  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:22:26am

Another great day is starting, and I am hopeful for the future.

This has nothing to do with Obama, mind you. It is just how I look at life.

Didn't need some figurehead to tell me to be hopeful, and that I can make my own life better...

I figured that one out on my own.

1376 MandyManners  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:22:43am

re: #1300 quickjustice

Not really. The system the Founding Fathers created had a weaker federal government, and stronger state governments, relatively speaking. In addition, the U.S. Senators were selected by vote of the state legislatures, not popularly.

FDR fundamentally changed the relationship between federal and state governments, strengthening the federal and weakening the states.

Our first step should be to get political control of as many state governments as possible. That provides a base for a national rebound. And remember: the 2010 census, which redistributes congressional seats and provides a basis for redrawing all legislative districts, is next year. Keep an eye on that census. It's a big deal, politically speaking.

That is what I was talking about. They would barely recognize the current system.

1377 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:23:23am

re: #1372 DistantThunder

What is the origin of the name Jerusalem?

Roughly translates (the Jewish lizards can correct me)
Jeru - Jehovah
Salem - Peace.

1378 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:23:31am

re: #1372 DistantThunder

What is the origin of the name Jerusalem?

A good PR firm, and some focus groups.

1379 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:23:33am

re: #1372 DistantThunder

Salem" is same root word as Hebrew "shalom" and Arabic "saalem" Jerusalem means city of peace.

1380 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:23:45am

re: #1367 DistantThunder

Communists have never tried to take over a free society with cable, radio and internet. It will be interesting to see how well this works for them.

It might work by giving the generally disinterested masses free handouts, and/or jobs in the federal or state administration which depend on them 'behaving' ..., by increasing revenue for TV channels showing trash and sports only ... there are a number of ways, gerrymandering, new laws on 'Hatre Speech' - and above all threats to the security (jobs, housing) of all those who don't toe the line.

1381 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:24:20am

re: #1372 DistantThunder

What is the origin of the name Jerusalem?

I think it has something to do with the people who originally established Jerusalem as a city.

1382 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:24:57am

re: #1377 JCM

Thanks.

"G-d's City of Peace".

1383 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:25:33am

re: #1382 quickjustice

Thanks.

"G-d's City of Peace".

1384 JCM  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:25:57am

re: #1383 JCM

Anything but isn't it?

1385 BryanS  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:26:20am

re: #1379 quickjustice

It sure has been that, hasn't it?

1386 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:27:12am

re: #1346 outsidephilly

. . . , a little present, aye?
How old is the lad?

Rather beyond a lad. He's 24. :D

1387 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:27:18am

re: #1385 BryanS

It sure has been that, hasn't it?

"It's more of a guideline than a rule."

1388 Nevergiveup  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:27:48am

re: #1381 Nevergiveup

I think it has something to do with the people who originally established Jerusalem as a city.

The Jebusites

1389 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:27:57am

re: #1387 Occasional Reader

"It's more of a guideline than a rule."

re: #1387 Occasional Reader

"It's more of a guideline than a rule."

I wonder how much the focus group got paid. I want my money back.

1390 yma o hyd  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:28:45am

Anybody notice how the imminent demise of the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka has not led to huge protests about the disproportionality with which the Sri Lankan army is attacking the Tamil Freedom Fighters?

Any protests by UN-Moon?

Did I miss anything?

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

1391 debutaunt  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:28:58am

re: #1385 BryanS

It was a little joke, kind of like Greenland.

1392 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:29:03am

Tel Aviv is much more pleasant to live in if you're secular. The religious sects prefer Jerusalem because of the importance of Jerusalem to the history of Israel, the Jewish people, and Christianity. Their presence also creates conflict.

Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism, is in Jerusalem.

1393 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:29:11am

re: #1386 vxbush

Rather beyond a lad. He's 24. :D

If I may ask, disabled from birth, or a traumatic incident?

1394 tokyobk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:31:34am

Kind of interesting etymology of Jerusalem.

1395 nyc redneck  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:31:36am

re: #1348 DistantThunder

Usually hugs and cheek kisses do not go along with a velvet revolution. And we saw Pres. Bush, one of the most gracious and classiest men ever, turn the other cheek against all the political and personal insults.

Now obama has poked his finger in the eyes of conservatives and Republicans - but is still blathering on about unity.

he pokes his finger in the eyes of anyone who confronts him or disagrees w/ him. and he does it w/ no hesitation or reservations. he is that confident in himself. he is going to force unity. he is so obnoxious.
so arrogant.
i'm thinking that some of the lesser moonbats are going to wake up and see what a pompous ass he is.
even people who don't really like rush, can surely see how dangerous it is for the potus to try to silence him, w/ a pronouncement.

1396 Dustyvet  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:32:48am

re: #1311 esch

Hmm not ringing a bell here, but that's not uncommon. 8)

Oh you can't roller skate in a buffalo heard...you'll get stuff on your skates...:)

1397 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:32:56am

re: #1393 outsidephilly

If I may ask, disabled from birth, or a traumatic incident?

Traumatic brain injury from a motor vehicle accident, leading to deficits in all sorts of things. I can just about reel off the entire medical description.

1398 quickjustice  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:33:32am

re: #1394 tokyobk

Also interesting.

1399 van helsing  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:34:11am

re: #1299 Walter L. Newton

They are giving the farm away.

No Walter, they're giving our farm away. Make it personal, because it is.

I'm doing taxes today.

1400 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:34:53am

re: #1397 vxbush

Traumatic brain injury from a motor vehicle accident, leading to deficits in all sorts of things. I can just about reel off the entire medical description.

I'm quite familiar with TBI, personally and professionally . . .
How long ago?

1401 Occasional Reader  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:36:55am

re: #1390 yma o hyd

Anybody notice how the imminent demise of the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka has not led to huge protests about the disproportionality with which the Sri Lankan army is attacking the Tamil Freedom Fighters?

Any protests by UN-Moon?

Did I miss anything?

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

No Israelis or Americans involved? Booorrring...

1402 Erik The Red  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:37:21am

Later Lizards. I did my goal of staying around for the whole LNDT and 1400+ comments. Play nice and stay scaly. See you on the LNDT tomorrow.

1403 tokyobk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:38:07am

Outsidephilly, I have been in the States for a month but have not made it home yet to outside Philly. Man am I going to tear into a cheese Hoagie, the kind with so much oil that it soaks through the wax paper.

1404 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:40:57am

re: #1403 tokyobk

Outsidephilly, I have been in the States for a month but have not made it home yet to outside Philly. Man am I going to tear into a cheese Hoagie, the kind with so much oil that it soaks through the wax paper.

. . . . , you're makin' me hungry!
Not a Geno's/Pat's cheesesteak fan?

1405 [deleted]  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:42:34am
1406 tokyobk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:43:49am

re: #1404 outsidephilly

. . . . , you're makin' me hungry!
Not a Geno's/Pat's cheesesteak fan?

Gave up meat about a year and a half ago. But when and if I start eating it again it will be Genos then Pats and I actually like Jims to with lettuce and real cheese.
I am going to look like a snake that swallowed an egg, cause it has to last me a year.

1407 tokyobk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:44:32am

re: #1405 ploome hineni

Oh, sorry Ploome. Did not see your question. No, I am an American living in Tokyo.

1408 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:44:45am

re: #1400 outsidephilly

I'm quite familiar with TBI, personally and professionally . . .
How long ago?

It's been 13 years now. He was ten when he was injured. Do you want to hear the medical list of problems? I assume that would bore most people.

1409 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:46:04am

re: #1407 tokyobk

Oh, sorry Ploome. Did not see your question. No, I am an American living in Tokyo.

An American living in Tokyo with philly roots . . .

1410 LindaMarie  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:46:40am

Thought for the Day:

"I think Congressmen should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we could identify their corporate sponsors."

1411 tokyobk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:47:01am

Yes, born in NYC, grew up in the city of brotherly love and sisterly affection.

1412 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:48:56am

re: #1411 tokyobk

Yes, born in NYC, grew up in the city of brotherly love and sisterly affection.

hope ya get that hoagie real soon!

1413 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:49:20am

bbl

1414 tokyobk  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:50:54am

re: #1412 outsidephilly

Thanks. Its the Amoroso bread that does it. Oh, man.

1415 alegrias  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 9:53:40am

re: #1392 quickjustice

Tel Aviv is much more pleasant to live in if you're secular. The religious sects prefer Jerusalem because of the importance of Jerusalem to the history of Israel, the Jewish people, and Christianity. Their presence also creates conflict.

Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism, is in Jerusalem.

* * *
"Secular" places are not more peaceful! How about that peaceful Havana, Cuba, where no religion (but Fidel's communist ideology) is allowed? People literally drown trying to leave the rotten one-party place.

1416 outsidephilly  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 10:06:38am

re: #1408 vxbush

It's been 13 years now. He was ten when he was injured. Do you want to hear the medical list of problems? I assume that would bore most people.

I would not be bored hearing you share what your son, and your family lives with since his TBI.
We'll chat, later, if's that okay with you - gotta run some errands now. . . .

1417 vxbush  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 10:21:32am

re: #1416 outsidephilly

I would not be bored hearing you share what your son, and your family lives with since his TBI.
We'll chat, later, if's that okay with you - gotta run some errands now. . . .

Coolness. I'm usually on latish mornings. Perhaps we should discuss it offline, to avoid boring the others.

1418 Killer Tomato  Sat, Jan 24, 2009 10:51:47am

re: #1399 van helsing

They are giving the farm away.

No Walter, they're giving our farm away. Make it personal, because it is.

I'm doing taxes today.

Brilliant!
Operation Old MacDonald

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