When will 0bama be giving this station an interview?

These are the people our president reached out to last night.
Is he stupid or evil? You decide.

And Obama thinks diplomacy will work

Keep it up assholes. The next holocaust might not work out according to your plan.

Don't think I can watch the video.

re: #2 Kosh's Shadow

These are the people our president reached out to last night.
Is he stupid or evil? You decide.

C. All of the Above

re: #2 Kosh's Shadow

He cannot detect evil, I think; much less has he any idea how to deal with it.

re: #2 Kosh's Shadow

These are the people our president reached out to last night.
Is he stupid or evil? You decide.

BO is stupid, and he is in the process of giving himself over to Evil.

I pray that he can be stopped before he is gone completely.

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

Re-posted from the prior thread:

I think that there should be some concerted effort to buy paid programming on various networks, to show the film "Obsession," to show some of these MEMRI videos with appropriate commentary, to show some things like the comparison done a few threads up between the Hamas zoo video and the Israeli video showing the booby-traps.

This stuff needs to get out more. It needs to be aired on mainstream outlets, and paid programming is the only way to do it. And the programs need to be heavily advertised in advance.

This would take a great deal of money--but word has it that there are some wealthy people of conservative bent in this country.

The American public needs to see the real face of the enemy.

Glenn Beck gets poor reviews on this forum, but I think that would be a good place to start. He did interview (full hour) the Obsession producer.

There is true joy in this monsters' narrative.

"Look at her humiliation. Praise Allah."

Absolutely disgusted.

Annihilation underlies their ideology

I believe it's called "projection".

Betcha dollars to donuts the worldwide left doesn't condemn this "hate" speak - but they'll prosecute anyone who points this out.

Hello bizarroworld!

re: #2 Kosh's Shadow

These are the people our president reached out to last night.
Is he stupid or evil? You decide.

I will take evil for the Daily Double, Alex, I fear I am in real jeopardy. . .

...I am confused.
First they deny that the holocaust happened, now they want another one to occur.

WTF, can't you camel screwers get it straight, or what?

re: #6 newsjunkie_ky

Don't think I can watch the video.

Don't. . .I almost smashed a window of a rental. . .

Is this guy one of the Muslim "Beautiful People" that Obama was talking about?

“This is what we hope will happen but, Allah willing, at the hands of the Muslims.”

Careful what you invoke, fuckstick. Payback is a motherf**ker...

re: #9 CIA Reject

BO is stupid, and he is in the process of giving himself over to Evil.

I pray that he can be stopped before he is gone completely.

He was gone before he ever ran.

So the muslim world denies that the Holocaust, which too many people think is the only reason Israel exists, ever happened, yet they want to finish the job & Mein Kampf (literally translated as "My Jihad") is a bestseller. That is insanity in action.

Not only what he's done thus far, but the speed in which BHO is moving on so many fronts is very very disturbing. Gitmo, the Pork Package, CIA, El Aribiya - its full speed ahead & no brakes. WTF?

re: #16 smokefire

We are dealing with primitives here, or throwbacks, who have not achieved the level of rationality, I think.

re: #18 opnion

Is this guy one of the Muslim "Beautiful People" that Obama was talking about?

Maybe the "Beautiful People" that Marilyn Manson was talking about.

Boy, I sure am glad that Obama is going to negotiate a peace with these people.

///

I watched and forwarded it to some people with a warning. There will be those who will get very upset by this, especially older people who remember the Nazis and later the communists who tried to do the same thing. But it should be seen by anyone with a strong stomach and an abililty to channel their anger in a positive direction.

I appreciate that it is posted for those who don't know about the hatred of Jews, but there is no way I can watch this video.

And our President thinks it's his job to tell me what these people's hopes and dreams are! I think they speak for themselves just fine, and never mind it's his job to protect me from the likes of them.

Imagine for one second that a Christian minister or a Jewish rabbi would do what this Muslim imam just did.

The outcry would be deafening. The condemnation would be universal. The entire religions would be discredited. Every single fellow minister or rabbi in the world would sign an open letter condemning the call for genocide.

But Islam? No, Islam gets a free pass. Islam can dive to the deepest depths of depravity and evil, and no one is allowed in the MSM to say a word.

In response, PBS will show a 48-hour marathon of Karen Armstrong's "Islam Is Vastly Superior to My Own Flawed Religion" mini-series.

re: #16 smokefire

...I am confused.
First they deny that the holocaust happened, now they want another one to occur.

WTF, can't you camel screwers get it straight, or what?

It's always mind-twisting to listen to them on this. It gets even weirder when they deny the Holocaust, want another one to occur, and claim the Holocaust didn't go far enough. How one mind can hold all three thoughts and believe in them at the same time is just bizarre.

re: #27 Ford_Prefect

not enough / in the world for that comment.

Thank goodness PRESIDENT 0bama has opened the lines of communication to these folks. ///

What kind of monsters ...

Truly sickening.

Somewhere in the world an Italian restaurant is missing a tablecloth.

It's a repost but, what the heck.

I have a suggestion of what to do with his beard that involves tweezers and rubbing alcohol or a rope and a door knob but, I'll refrain from posting it.

Unlikely that this, or this morning's Hamas ceasefire violation will bust Obama's Let's-be-nice-to-them-and-they'll-be-nice-to-us fantasy bubble.

re: #31 zombie

Imagine for one second that a Christian minister or a Jewish rabbi would do what this Muslim imam just did.

The outcry would be deafening. The condemnation would be universal. The entire religions would be discredited. Every single fellow minister or rabbi in the world would sign an open letter condemning the call for genocide.

But Islam? No, Islam gets a free pass. Islam can dive to the deepest depths of depravity and evil, and no one is allowed in the MSM to say a word.

In response, PBS will show a 48-hour marathon of Karen Armstrong's "Islam Is Vastly Superior to My Own Flawed Religion" mini-series.

Not supposed to judge.

/

My only question:

Was this shown before or after the Obama interview?

re: #23 sbvft contributor

Not only what he's done thus far, but the speed in which BHO is moving on so many fronts is very very disturbing. Gitmo, the Pork Package, CIA, El Aribiya - its full speed ahead & no brakes. WTF?

I'm sorry to say but he reminds me of Allende - a democratically elected leftist radical who moved with alarming alacrity to dismantle Chilean society.

What can you expect from a society where men kiss each other and sex with animals is legal ? Welcome to the Show That Never Ends, Citizens of the World !

Why is it that I think the Rev Jeremiah Wright would be comfortable with this fuck...

re: #23 sbvft contributor

Not only what he's done thus far, but the speed in which BHO is moving on so many fronts is very very disturbing. Gitmo, the Pork Package, CIA, El Aribiya - its full speed ahead & no brakes. WTF?

He thinks he's FDR. That should be a hell of a warning. He's FDR, Carter, LBJ, and Wilson wrapped up in an organic torilla.

re: #34 kynna

And he's gonna communicate with them WITHOUT pre-conditions, you know, like stop being murdering bastards who are trying to kill all who do not submit to Islam. Change we can believe in!

re: #27 Ford_Prefect

Boy, I sure am glad that Obama is going to negotiate a peace collaborate with these people.

/// ///

Fixed it for ya

re: #40 zombie

My only question:

Was this shown before or after the Obama interview?

Does it really matter? This is nothing new.

re: #27 Ford_Prefect

Boy, I sure am glad that Obama is going to negotiate a peace with these people.

/// ///

What Obama doesn't understand, is that people who think like that, and many do, are our enemy. They are NOT our friends and never will be. Well sure as hell shouldn't be.

This is so over the top that I sincerely don't know what to say, other than I hope someone here finds something to do about it...

re: #25 buzzsawmonkey

Perhaps. I have suggested a paid-programming effort in conjunction with a large backup advertising campaign because I think that it is important to try and reach people who might not be willing to tune into a "conservative" show.

I recognize that on that basis they might also blow off an independent effort, but I think trying an independent effort, if money could be raised to mount it, might be worthwhile.

You mean a stand-alone paid program type effort?
IMAO there is only one network (Fox) that would take it, and they already have done some 'specials', which seemed to result in nada.

re: #33 Ojoe

not enough / in the world for that comment.

re: #46 ThinkRight

Fixed it for ya

Too true to both of you.

re: #31 zombie

Imagine for one second that a Christian minister or a Jewish rabbi would do what this Muslim imam just did.

The outcry would be deafening. The condemnation would be universal. The entire religions would be discredited. Every single fellow minister or rabbi in the world would sign an open letter condemning the call for genocide.

But Islam? No, Islam gets a free pass. Islam can dive to the deepest depths of depravity and evil, and no one is allowed in the MSM to say a word.

In response, PBS will show a 48-hour marathon of Karen Armstrong's "Islam Is Vastly Superior to My Own Flawed Religion" mini-series.

And this is what's so incredibly infuriating. Do they just not know? Do they turn a blind eye in hopes it will go away? What in the world could get the media to excuse such evil?

re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

C. All of the Above

GREEDY

re: #27 Ford_Prefect

OT: The answer is George. Ringo only hit #4.

re: #18 opnion

Is this guy one of the Muslim "Beautiful People" that Obama was talking about?

No, the ones Marilyn Manson was. . .

I'm sorry. I watched about four minutes of this. There's only one term that describes it.

Pornography.

re: #53 kynna

The regular media is morally compromised, that is why they do not show this stuff.

re: #44 Honorary Yooper

He thinks he's FDR. That should be a hell of a warning. He's FDR, Carter, LBJ, and Wilson wrapped up in an organic orgasmic torilla.

"fixed"

Although to convert from Islam to Christianity is to risk death in Egypt;
And to convert from Christianity to Islam means wealth and gain,
More Muslims convert (usually secretly) to Christianity
Than vice versa.
Why is that?

-sorry, I cannot disclose my source, but it is credible.

re: #58 subsailor68

Pornography is a minor sin compared to this

And they wonder why the civilized world looks at them as animals.

re: #55 Sharmuta

OT: The answer is George. Ringo only hit #4.

Really? I could have sworn he hit number one. I will bow to your superior knowledge.

*grovel, grovel, grovel

re: #29 Lawrence Schmerel

I appreciate that it is posted for those who don't know about the hatred of Jews, but there is no way I can watch this video.

What you need to know is that Muslim Clerics are saying exactly what the Nazis said.

re: #62 Ojoe

Pornography is a minor sin compared to this

Sigh. Quite right when I think about it.

Is this Obama's new pastor?

re: #43 LGoPs

Why is it that I think the Rev Jeremiah Wright would be comfortable with this fuck...

Because they both hate Jews and America. . .not necessarily in that order. . .

re: #67 faraway

Is this Obama's new pastor?

LOL

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

Re-posted from the prior thread:

I think that there should be some concerted effort to buy paid programming on various networks, to show the film "Obsession," to show some of these MEMRI videos with appropriate commentary, to show some things like the comparison done a few threads up between the Hamas zoo video and the Israeli video showing the booby-traps.

This stuff needs to get out more. It needs to be aired on mainstream outlets, and paid programming is the only way to do it. And the programs need to be heavily advertised in advance.

This would take a great deal of money--but word has it that there are some wealthy people of conservative bent in this country.

The American public needs to see the real face of the enemy.

I don't have lots of money, but we can all share this with the tools Charles have given us and beyond. Worth of mouth, forwarding to friends etc., will go a long way to getting this out there. I agree with you that this SHOULD BE OUT FOR ALL to see.

re: #61 David IV of Georgia

I have heard that too, from my evangelical Christian friends. Ask an evangelical, you will get some sources.

Since 0bama thinks it's his job to tell us the hopes and dreams of muslims, does this mean he'll be coming out and telling us they dream of a second Holocaust?

re: #63 researchok

And they wonder why the civilized world looks at them as animals.

I wish that were true. Too many people in the 'civilized' world make excuses for them and try to 'understand where they are coming from'.

I thank MEMRI for posting this video. It needs to be seen. The world needs to know that the Nazi anti-Jewish sentiments did not die in World War II.

RoP Cleric Wishes for Another Holocaust

Another one?!? So, Mr. Cleric, you're admitting the first one happened?

re: #72 Sharmuta

Since 0bama thinks it's his job to tell us the hopes and dreams of muslims, does this mean he'll be coming out and telling us they dream of a second HolocaustChange they can believe in?

Fixed

He really went out of his way to find some of the most horrific death camp images. Some of them I've never seen before. He simply can't hide his joy at seeing the death, torture and humiliation of Jews. We've all seen this kind of thing before but this is really a new low.

re: #56 DisturbedEma

GMTA (see my #26)

re: #59 Ojoe

The regular media is morally compromised, that is why they do not show this stuff.

Meaning what? Compromised in what way? Hating the West so much that 'any-means-necessary'? Filled with metrosexual dunderheads? Anti-semites? Compromised by whom?

I can understand how some things have gotten to be the way they are, but the whitewash of Islam (especially when they torture and murder fellow media people) is an absolute mystery to me.

Skin color? Sadly, I think that's it. :(

And Iran screams everyday, "We will have the bomb by the end of the year."

These people don't even try to hide their intentions. But we, as a nation, are still blind...sitting ducks.

re: #74 Golem Akbar

I thank MEMRI for posting this video. It needs to be seen. The world needs to know that the Nazi anti-Jewish sentiments did not die in World War II.

And were not restricted to Europe. . .

re: #63 researchok

And they wonder why the civilized world looks at them as rabid animals animals.

Sorry. Had to fix that. Animals don't act this way...

re: #63 researchok

And they wonder why the civilized world looks at them as animals.

Except Obama and the O-bots

re: #77 Killgore Trout

I'll trust you- I had to stop watching. I can only deal with so much Jew hate in a 24 hour period.

re: #69 Lively

LOL

...I can no sooner disown my newpastor, then I can my grandmother.

re: #67 faraway

Is this Obama's new pastor?

NO. Don't taint Obama with this. He's going to have to face Muslim anti-semitism and the American people (bless them) will be just as shocked as we are about this. [and I'm not an Obama-defender, either]

re: #75 gmsc

Another one?!? So, Mr. Cleric, you're admitting the first one happened?

Of course, and hoping for another one. Praying for another one.

re: #79 kynna

Most of them are compromised by their own desire for unmerited and unaccountable power.

I bet these guys are a lot of fun at parties.

re: #87 taxfreekiller

Charles

Is there a way this Video thing can be sent to every Congress member and each Senator in D.C.

That would be racist and some sort of hate crime
/

From about 8 minutes into the video:

[Showing a skeletal concentration camp victim on the verge of death.]
Imam speaking: "Look at the humiliation on his face. Allah be praised!"

re: #77 Killgore Trout

He really went out of his way to find some of the most horrific death camp images. Some of them I've never seen before. He simply can't hide his joy at seeing the death, torture and humiliation of Jews. We've all seen this kind of thing before but this is really a new low.

If I told you they looked FAMILIAR would you be any less shocked? See, many people would be only shocked if they KNEW someone who lost someone. . .otherwise it is just "the past". . .

Wonder if cnn will show this video right after that praise the 0 for sitting down to talk with Al Arabiya for his first interview as potus (small caps on purpose).

re: #84 Sharmuta

I'll trust you- I had to stop watching. I can only deal with so much Jew hate in a 24 hour period.

...2 minutes was my limit.

re: #90 logboy

Although I can appreciate where you are coming from-I think your comment is in really poor taste.

Sorry for the re-post (from the Obama talks to Al-Arabyia TV thread) but it seems appropriate here:

I wish, just for once, that SOMEONE whom Obama will actually listen to, would tell him he is the President of the United States of America, not of the World. His job is to look out for the best interests of America, not the best interests of any other nation unless those interests coincide with the United States' interests (like say, Israel - a democratic government which has gone SO FAR out of it's way with its ACTIONS to make peace with the Muslim World, that it has jeopardized the safety of IT'S citizens).
Don't bother with talking the talk, Mr. President, just Walk the Walk.

re: #85 smokefire

...I can no sooner disown my newpastor, then I can my grandmother.

even though she was a racist. . .

re: #84 Sharmuta

The video doesn't get truly outrageous until about 7:00.

re: #62 Ojoe

Pornography is a minor sin compared to this

Porn for all its faults, is a reflection of our drive to procreate. I don't understand where videos such as this come from.

At least he admits there was a Holocaust. Is that a step forward?

“This is what we hope will happen but, Allah willing, at the hands of the Muslims.”

Well, isn't it nice to know the Religion of Peace is all about "hope"!

re: #87 taxfreekiller

If every one of us sends it to a few people, or a few journalists or web sites that MAY publicize it-it might have some legs. Maybe.

re: #92 zombie

He also gets really exited about the Jewish woman kissing a Nazi's hand.

re: #96 WriterMom

Although I can appreciate where you are coming from-I think your comment is in really poor taste.

I think he was just missing a sarc tag.

re: #87 taxfreekiller

Charles

Is there a way this Video thing can be sent to every Congress member and each Senator in D.C.

Ditto.

re: #100 Killgore Trout

I know it has to be bad if you and Charles say it gets bad.

re: #74 Golem Akbar

Golem, we already knew that-didnt' we? We know where the Nazi spirits are now.

How can he wish for 'another holocaust' when he and his ilk claim the first one never occurred. How can Jews and Israelis have any meaningful peace negotiations if this is the hidden agenda behind the other side's position?

re: #101 CyanSnowHawk

Well these things are so bad that only the really big explanations will do for me & I would say that these things come from straight from the prince of darkness.

Mental palate cleanser.

Another one.

re: #106 Ford_Prefect

I know-and even as a joke, I think it's just questionable taste.

re: #92 zombie

From about 8 minutes into the video:

[Showing a skeletal concentration camp victim on the verge of death.]
Imam speaking: "Look at the humiliation on his face. Allah be praised!"

Fucker needs to be taught real humiliation.

re: #101 CyanSnowHawk

Porn for all its faults, is a reflection of our drive to procreate. I don't understand where videos such as this come from.

Pr0no is a broken mirror, poorly reflecting our desire for love & beauty. This is an open window to Hell.

Not to be picky, but the asshole is even confusing Herzl with Chaim Weizmann.

re: #114 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Americans and the Allies know how to humilate evil-they did it in WW2. They need to do it again on the current incarnation of Nazi evil.

re: #115 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Pr0no is a broken mirror, poorly reflecting our desire for love & beauty. This is an open window to Hell.

Well phrased. Upding.

re: #111 Ojoe

Well these things are so bad that only the really big explanations will do for me & I would say that these things come from straight from the prince of darkness.

I know I've posted this before, but it seems appropriate: the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he doesn't exist.

Oh yes he does.

I managed to make it through most of this (noun deleted). It is so bad, and contorts the history that is familiar to all but the most mentally challenged to the degree that the slimy spalpeen who narrates it presents himself as a vicious idiot. Perhaps this little clip should get more air time over here to indicate what a pack of poltroons the islamic fundamentalists really are.

re: #101 CyanSnowHawk

From a desire to exterminate every living Jew and kafir on the planet.

Why do idiots like Obama (and the rest of the loony left) think they can make people who hate us with every bone in their body, people who would love to see us executed one at a time "in the name of Allah", suddenly like us? How can they be so damn naive? What the hell is wrong with them?

re: #1 Sharmuta

very soon

re: #117 WriterMom

Americans and the Allies know how to humilate evil-they did it in WW2. They need to do it again on the current incarnation of Nazi evil.

And this degenerate misidentified American soldiers right around 10:25.

re: #102 Alouette

At least he admits there was a Holocaust. Is that a step forward?

...one step forward, 1000 steps back.

On one hand he wants another Holocaust, on the other he/they deny it, then they charge Israel with perpetrating a Holocause on Gaza.

smokefire runs in circles, and starts to bang head repeatedly into concrete wall

re: #97 realwest

Sorry for the re-post (from the Obama talks to Al-Arabyia TV thread) but it seems appropriate here:

I wish, just for once, that SOMEONE whom Obama will actually listen to, would tell him he is the President of the United States of America, not of the World. His job is to look out for the best interests of America, not the best interests of any other nation unless those interests coincide with the United States' interests (like say, Israel - a democratic government which has gone SO FAR out of it's way with its ACTIONS to make peace with the Muslim World, that it has jeopardized the safety of IT'S citizens).
Don't bother with talking the talk, Mr. President, just Walk the Walk.

Certainly not an original thought on my part, but I think this is a predictable action for one who has a Messianic complex. He feels impelled to transcend and extend his reach to the world in general. Pretty scary shit...

re: #86 Golem Akbar
Do you think President Obama knew about this (if not the actual video, then the sentiments behind it) when he gave his interview to Al-Arabyia TV and kept talking about "respect"?

re: #97 realwest

Sorry for the re-post (from the Obama talks to Al-Arabyia TV thread) but it seems appropriate here:

I wish, just for once, that SOMEONE whom Obama will actually listen to, would tell him he is the President of the United States of America, not of the World. His job is to look out for the best interests of America, not the best interests of any other nation unless those interests coincide with the United States' interests (like say, Israel - a democratic government which has gone SO FAR out of it's way with its ACTIONS to make peace with the Muslim World, that it has jeopardized the safety of IT'S citizens).
Don't bother with talking the talk, Mr. President, just Walk the Walk.

He thinks it's his JOB to tell us what the hopes and dreams are of the muslim world! This is a man who took the oath of office TWICE! I'm pretty sure that oath says his JOB is to uphold and defend the Constitution.

The Muslims ran a systematic campaign of Jew cleansing in Southern European states during their reign before the crusades

re: #112 MandyManners

OK Mandy, here is another R_x for the hate:
Mountain hermit from Rumania.

I couldn't watch more than the first 48 seconds; they guy was still talking about Jewish greed. That was enough for me. I refuse to watch images of the innocent dead used as Islamo-porn and incitement.

However, I think this shows how wise it is for Obama to be talking to Muslims directly via al-Arabiya. If he can reach some people and make them understand about America and our commitment to religious freedom and individual rights, it will be a positive thing. With Muslims minds being poisoned daily by filth like this, it is imperative that they at least be given the chance to see another face of the West.

My God, they are using films of the Holocaust as instructional videos for the next Holocaust.

Charles says "this is horrific beyond belief," but even that is underplaying it.

It's not just "horrific," because that can apply to something you observe of which you are not a part.

What this is is terrifying beyond belief, because men like this imam number in the thousands (millions, more likely) and they will most definitely exterminate every Jew from the planet given half a chance. (And derive sexual pleasure from it, judging from his tone of voice.)

And then next will come the infidels. Bank on it.

I didn't think it possible, but my opinion of Islam is now lower than it was before.

I hear exactly NO condemnation of this kind of speech coming from the "moderate Muslims." None.

re: #126 buzzsawmonkey

It's actually not clear whether that is a Nazi or not. It could well have been a relief worker, given the fact that much of the footage depicts post-liberation cleanup.

The woman's uniform is not clear, and not necessarily German. Furthermore, it is unlikely that there would have been a moment of that sort between a Nazi guard and a camp inmate, while it is indeed likely that there would be such a moment between a liberated inmate receiving food and the relief worker.

Don't forget that the narrator, whether from ignorance or malice, wrongly characterizes American soldiers in the footage as "having been fighting the Jews." He either knows nothing of different helmets and uniforms, or is so firmly in the grip of mad hatred (and so confident that his outrageous historical falsehoods will be believed) that he feels free to make up whatever he wishes.

Probably a Soviet soldier. The Soviet Army was extremely integrated, even between the sexes.

re: #128 realwest

Do you think President Obama knew about this (if not the actual video, then the sentiments behind it) when he gave his interview to Al-Arabyia TV and kept talking about "respect"?

Very good point RW. What would be interesting is a compilation video, cutting back and forth between the two.

re: #114 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Fucker needs to be taught real humiliation.

Oh, but we can't do that. How would the world view us if we humiliated the murdering, anti-Semitic, pedophile worshiping bastards?

///

re: #92 zombie

From about 8 minutes into the video:

[Showing a skeletal concentration camp victim on the verge of death.]
Imam speaking: "Look at the humiliation on his face. Allah be praised!"

I had to turn it off at that point.

re: #24 Ojoe

Actually, most "primitive" people -- Pygmies, Bushmen, and others -- are for the most part peaceful, considerate, and good natured.

At least so report the anthropologists who have lived among them.

re: #117 WriterMom

Americans and the Allies know how to humilate evil-they did it in WW2. They need to do it again on the current incarnation of Nazi evil.

Won't happen.
This election was a mandate for civility (whatever that means).

Which means we have to set "boundaries". Which means we can't win.

The most recent Batman movie illustrates the concept.

Let me digress just a little. The Last Templar, a two part made for TV movie concluded last night.
Omar Shariff had a part towards the end. I remembered that he was a Christian that became a Muslim convert. All that i could think was WTF!

re: #128 realwest

Do you think, even if he saw this particular video that he would care-or change his approach? I actually don't.

re: #122 logboy

Why do idiots like Obama (and the rest of the loony left) think they can make people who hate us with every bone in their body, people who would love to see us executed one at a time "in the name of Allah", suddenly like us? How can they be so damn naive? What the hell is wrong with them?

Willful ignorance at one point becomes an endorsement of evil.

re: #128 realwest

Do you think President Obama knew about this (if not the actual video, then the sentiments behind it) when he gave his interview to Al-Arabyia TV and kept talking about "respect"?

If he wasn't aware of the sentiment then he has had his head in the sand for a very long time.

re: #130 winston06

Also in North Africa.

How long until we find out this part of the Curriculum in the Saudi schools here ?

re: #144 buzzsawmonkey

Good point. There's no reason why some Soviet footage could not have been mixed in with the German and American.

They made a lot of films, too. They were not slouches at propaganda.

re: #109 WriterMom

Golem, we already knew that-didnt' we? We know where the Nazi spirits are now.

Yes, of course, we did. Others didn't and others will be shocked to learn that such anti-semitism is alive and well and thriving in the ROP. I know you know that.

re: #146 SasquatchOnSteroids

How long until we find out this IS part of the Curriculum in the Saudi schools here ?

PIMF

re: #126 buzzsawmonkey

It's actually not clear whether that is a Nazi or not. It could well have been a relief worker, given the fact that much of the footage depicts post-liberation cleanup.

The woman's uniform is not clear, and not necessarily German. Furthermore, it is unlikely that there would have been a moment of that sort between a Nazi guard and a camp inmate, while it is indeed likely that there would be such a moment between a liberated inmate receiving food and the relief worker.

Don't forget that the narrator, whether from ignorance or malice, wrongly characterizes American soldiers in the footage as "having been fighting the Jews." He either knows nothing of different helmets and uniforms, or is so firmly in the grip of mad hatred (and so confident that his outrageous historical falsehoods will be believed) that he feels free to make up whatever he wishes.

Often as not, the liberated prisoners lynched the Kapos and guards.

Rough justice, but justice just the same.

re: #149 SasquatchOnSteroids

PIMF

We don't know that yet?

I need a scorecard to know on what days we are to believe the Holocaust didn't happens and the Jews are liars as Allah says and those days when the Holocaust did happened and praise be to Allah for the dead Jews.

re: #121 WriterMom

From a desire to exterminate every living Jew and kafir on the planet.

That is what I don't understand. Where this desire comes from.

re: #133 zombie

My God, they are using films of the Holocaust as instructional videos for the next Holocaust.

Charles says "this is horrific beyond belief," but even that is underplaying it.

It's not just "horrific," because that can apply to something you observe of which you are not a part.

What this is is terrifying beyond belief, because men like this imam number in the thousands (millions, more likely) and they will most definitely exterminate every Jew from the planet given half a chance. (And derive sexual pleasure from it, judging from his tone of voice.)

And then next will come the infidels. Bank on it.

I didn't think it possible, but my opinion of Islam is now lower than it was before.

I hear exactly NO condemnation of this kind of speech coming from the "moderate Muslims." None.

What moderate Muslims?

Where are they?

Who are they?

re: #71 Ojoe

I have heard that too, from my evangelical Christian friends. Ask an evangelical, you will get some sources.

I don't want to say too much about this, but the person who shared this information would have access to actual records, nor mere word of mouth.

re: #104 WriterMom
How's about we all hit the "share" button and report this to whichever and all of the groups with whom you can share it?Although I also like TFK's approach, too.

MEMRI is shining a light on a real problem and Mr. Obama will have to face this harsh reality, sooner or later. I'm going to give him credit for wanting to do something about it, because I believe he is sincere in what he said (wanting to help Israel). And I do vehemently disagree with his methods.

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

This would take a great deal of money--but word has it that there are some wealthy people of conservative bent in this country.

They're busy pushing creationism into public school classrooms. They know who the real enemy is- Darwin.

/Wish it was sarcasm

re: #122 logboy

Why do idiots like Obama (and the rest of the loony left) think they can make people who hate us with every bone in their body, people who would love to see us executed one at a time "in the name of Allah", suddenly like us? How can they be so damn naive? What the hell is wrong with them?

The Left, the socialists and communists, believe that all humanity is one, and the divisions are based purely on class and socio-economic struggles. They fail to see that humanity is divided on tribal and religious grounds rather than socio-economic grounds. They think that these are little more than misguided proletariats. The Islamo-fascists understand as well as we do that this is about religious and tribal divisions. The socialists and communists will never see it that way as it does not fit their paradigm which is defined by Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, and Antonio Gramsci. That's what is wrong with the Left and why they never will see what is right in front of their faces.

re: #155 David IV of Georgia

Some people's faith just has to be way way stronger than mine.

BBL

re: #146 SasquatchOnSteroids

How long until we find out this part of the Curriculum in the Saudi schools here ?

Too late.

Sick disgusting bastard-- he's probably having an orgasm watching this-- his favorite type of p0rn. Anything else I would add would only get me banned.
Piss on him, on second thought, he's not even worth that.

I wonder what our precious homegrown leftists will say about this... Actually, I don't. I know what side they are on.

re: #154 ryannon

What moderate Muslims?

Where are they?

Who are they?

They do exist and they are afraid to speak up. This video (and those like it) need to be broadcast in every media outlet, everywhere.

re: #157 Golem Akbar

Mr. Obama will have to face this harsh reality

He never heard what Rev Wright had to say and he was sitting right there- for years- why would he acknowledge what this guy is saying.

re: #154 ryannon

What moderate Muslims?

Where are they?

Who are they?

You mean the heretics? They're hiding; if they speak up, they'll find out what that room in the basement of their Saudi-funded mosque, the soundproofed one, is for.
/

re: #160 Ojoe

Some people's faith just has to be way way stronger than mine.

Your faith only has to be strong enough for today, not tomorrow.

"These are corpses. allah be praised."

This must be one of the moderates obama was just talking about.

re: #58 subsailor68

I'm sorry. I watched about four minutes of this. There's only one term that describes it.

Pornography.

It was quite obviously pornography for this monster. The way he prodded his viewers to "Watch!" the images of horrific brutality toward Jews was one of the sickest things I have ever seen in my life.

He clearly enjoyed it, the sick f___.

re: #153 CyanSnowHawk

That is what I don't understand. Where this desire comes from.

Satan.

re: #165 Golem Akbar

They do exist and they are afraid to speak up. This video (and those like it) need to be broadcast in every media outlet, everywhere.

Good luck with that.

I doubt that it will even be picked up by Pajamas Media.

Maybe post it on Kos - rub their dumb little noses in it.

I am off to buy some drugs (cold medicine) and then go lay on the couch for the next day or two. Later Lizards!

re: #171 ploome hineni

muslims see that as the absence of committment to religion, and a area to place the wedge of islam

individual freedom is death in islamic lands, muslims see individual freedom as treason and fitna

Islam is Marxism on blotter acid.

re: #164 Natasha

I wonder what our precious homegrown leftists will say about this... Actually, I don't. I know what side they are on.

I'm giving them credit for not sharing those views. They think they can stop it with their views. Yes, they are fooling themselves, but let's not forget that the left did fight the Nazis in WWII. [and I'm no leftist -- at least not anymore]

re: #154 ryannon

What moderate Muslims?

Where are they?

Who are they?

I believe they are closely related to unicorns.

re: #170 capitalist piglet

It was quite obviously pornography for this monster. The way he prodded his viewers to "Watch!" the images of horrific brutality toward Jews was one of the sickest things I have ever seen in my life.

He clearly enjoyed it, the sick f___.

"Monster" is the only appropriate word, and the clear enjoyment he showed was demonic.

re: #169 faraway

"These are corpses. allah be praised."

This must be one of the moderates obama was just talking about.

I am sure that he was just taken out of context.
Didn't ya want to slap that sucker silly?
Although he really is a snappy dresser!

With this, and the stuff in the previous thread, I'm going to take a break before I make some comments that would get me banned.

There is no point expecting logic or reason from people who believe that their religion, created in the 7th century, goes back to Adam; and that Moses, Abraham, Jesus, etc. were actually Muslims.

If one has not internalized the concept of a linear timeline, one cannot comprehend cause and effect. Reasoning with such individuals is a futile exercise, and woe to the culture or nation that allows its policies to be determined by these individuals.

Likewise, international relations conducted on the (projectional) assumption that these nations understand cause and effect as we do cannot succeed.

re: #75 gmsc

Another one?!? So, Mr. Cleric, you're admitting the first one happened?

Well, sure, but they brought it on themselves. They oppressed the Germans!

/doineedto?

re: #163 pygmalienation

Sick disgusting bastard-- he's probably having an orgasm watching this-- his favorite type of p0rn.

I totally agree. It is a sexual pathology.

These people are true sadists, in the original sense of the term -- the only way they can experience sexual excitement and pleasure it through either inflicting pain or through observing others suffering.

re: #174 ryannon

Good luck with that.

I doubt that it will even be picked up by Pajamas Media.

Maybe post it on Kos - rub their dumb little noses in it.

Let's do our part by telling our e-mail buddies about it (I've done that already). It needs to make the rounds.

He forgot to mention that the koran was written by juice.

I think it's time to get some work done. See y'all on the next open thread.

re: #176 MandyManners

Islam is Marxism on blotter acid.

And crack.

I would like to know what channel this is on? Who sees this?

re: #172 MandyManners

Satan.

My beliefs do not allow for that. There is only one source of evil like this, and I am the same species. It is frightening.

On the subject of Jew haters and the Holocaust, Buchanan has another piece on Israel.

Read it carefully, and you will find subtle and subliminal anti Israel messages in almost every single paragraph by use of very precise wording.

A Bibi-Barack Collision?
by Patrick J. Buchanan

re: #184 zombie

I totally agree. It is a sexual pathology.

These people are true sadists, in the original sense of the term -- the only way they can experience sexual excitement and pleasure it through either inflicting pain or through observing others suffering.

Thanks zombie, you said it much better than I.

MEMRI videos are priceless. I'm praying for the day when enough people see videos like this and begin to understand the true face of radical Islam, and then have the will to do something about it.

Does the IDF have a version of the Foreign Legion that accepts 49 year old Christian white guys?

re: #129 Sharmuta Yes, Sharm I agree with what you say. I just wish Obama knew that. And someone, can't remember who - senior moment, sorry - said that his interview was evidence of a "messianic" mind set. And that is scary indeed.

Amin Al-Ansari, go [DELETED] your own face.

"The Germans, of course, were strong..."

We were stronger, still are. Julius Streicher found that out too late. So will this asshat.

re: #195 Golem Akbar

MEMRI videos are priceless. I'm praying for the day when enough people see videos like this and begin to understand the true face of radical Islam, and then have the will to do something about it.

trouble is there is no venue for them to see these videos unless they actively seek them out to play. There was a time in history where our media would have fulfilled this role.

re: #191 Opinionated

On the subject of Jew haters and the Holocaust, Buchanan has another piece on Israel.

Read it carefully, and you will find subtle and subliminal anti Israel messages in almost every single paragraph by use of very precise wording.

A Bibi-Barack Collision?
by Patrick J. Buchanan

I'm reading it via Townhall, and it is disgusting how Buchanan tosses the anti-Israel messages into it. He's not even trying to hide them, they're pretty blatent to me.

A thread?

re: #126 buzzsawmonkey

She might have been begging for mercy.

re: #193 buzzsawmonkey

Agree totally. Especially hilarious was when he said "These are German soldiers, looking at the humiliated dead Jews who only a short time beofre had been fighting them." Then the camera pans to show several American soldiers (who obviousluy had just liberated a camp), including an African-American soldier.

You'd think alarm bells would go off in a few viewers: "I didn't know there were black Nazis!"

re: #153 CyanSnowHawk

That is what I don't understand. Where this desire comes from.

It comes from Satan, in whose image they are created.

re: #195 Golem Akbar

MEMRI videos are priceless. I'm praying for the day when enough people see videos like this and begin to understand the true face of radical Islam, and then have the will to do something about it.

How could anyone not agree with that. He is a clueless idiot and only deserves one, horny, male camel when he meets his maker.

re: #204 zombie

Agree totally. Especially hilarious was when he said "These are German soldiers, looking at the humiliated dead Jews who only a short time beofre had been fighting them." Then the camera pans to show several American soldiers (who obviousluy had just liberated a camp), including an African-American soldier.

You'd think alarm bells would go off in a few viewers: "I didn't know there were black Nazis!"

All I had to see were the helmets. I have seen that footage before.

re: #204 zombie

Agree totally. Especially hilarious was when he said "These are German soldiers, looking at the humiliated dead Jews who only a short time beofre had been fighting them." Then the camera pans to show several American soldiers (who obviousluy had just liberated a camp), including an African-American soldier.

You'd think alarm bells would go off in a few viewers: "I didn't know there were black Nazis!"

Guess he was confusing them with the Blackshirts.

re: #185 Golem Akbar I would STRONGLY suggest that we all (I already have, btw) use the share button at the top of the page before the comments begin, to spread the word about this disgusting, vile, filthy sadomasochistic porn.

I'm going to be sick.

re: #201 Outrider

trouble is there is no venue for them to see these videos unless they actively seek them out to play. There was a time in history where our media would have fulfilled this role.

You can forward the video to those you know who will understand and can emotionally handle it. Some can't, of course.

re: #203 Killgore Trout

She might have been begging for mercy.

That wasn't a German uniform.

And I'm pretty sure that film is from the liberation.

Horrible, horrible, horrible.

These events must not ever be forgotten; I hate to say these pictures must be shown, but they must be - no sane person can look at that and feel anything but the deepest revulsion, unlike the character narrating this video, who cannot be either human or sane.

re: #133 zombie

My God, they are using films of the Holocaust as instructional videos for the next Holocaust.

Charles says "this is horrific beyond belief," but even that is underplaying it.

It's not just "horrific," because that can apply to something you observe of which you are not a part.

What this is is terrifying beyond belief, because men like this imam number in the thousands (millions, more likely) and they will most definitely exterminate every Jew from the planet given half a chance. (And derive sexual pleasure from it, judging from his tone of voice.)

And then next will come the infidels. Bank on it.

I didn't think it possible, but my opinion of Islam is now lower than it was before.

I hear exactly NO condemnation of this kind of speech coming from the "moderate Muslims." None.

Very good points, but I have a question: Have you shown this or similar videos to "moderate Muslims"? My guess would be that they would avoid watching such filth. If they haven't seen it, how can they condemn it?

It would be interesting to send copies of this to various non-Wahhabi mosques and ask for a reaction. I know you're talking about spontaneous condemnation, but let's be honest: How many non-racists take the time to denounce the utter filth that's out there about black people? The other day I was on a discussion board and some ranting idiot came on with "sick of n***rs? visit rantingidiots.com" (I won't post the real link here, they don't deserve the traffic). Stupid me, I went there and was shocked! And it takes a lot to shock me. But did I do anything about it? Do others? What about the radio and TV spots and websites featuring David Duke and worse? Do you see mass protests from right-thinking white people?

My point is that even if they saw this, which is unlikely, since they wouldn't be prone to watching such broadcasts, the reaction of "moderate Muslims" will likely be the same as ours: Turn away in disgust. Talk about it among your friends, or on a chatboard, or the like.

We should try to get the governments responsible to shut this stuff down, and we should try to get Muslims involved in the effort. What we should not do is take the existence of this ordure as evidence that moderate Muslims do not exist.

There were things in the videos he showed (and clearly got off on) that I had never seen, and never heard about, and I have a more-than-average interest in WWII history.

My anger at this moment is white hot.

re: #207 OldLineTexan

All I had to see were the helmets. I have seen that footage before.

I believe parts of this were from the long section on the Holocaust from The World at War.

re: #210 realwest

I would STRONGLY suggest that we all (I already have, btw) use the share button at the top of the page before the comments begin, to spread the word about this disgusting, vile, filthy sadomasochistic porn.

UPDING city!

When Iran uses its nuke (possibly by the end of this year, according to the Institute for Strategic Studies), Israel will naturally turn Iran and the Hezbollah country into smoking holes.
At the same time, they should individually target pigs like this throughout the world, destroy ALL of them their missiles, commandos, agents, and bombs can reach.

I couldn't watch the whole thing. Made me want to throw my computer across the room. There is evil, pure, uncovered evil, staring people right in the face, yet so many refuse to acknowledge it. It is infuriating.

re: #202 Honorary Yooper

I'm reading it via Townhall, and it is disgusting how Buchanan tosses the anti-Israel messages into it. He's not even trying to hide them, they're pretty blatent to me.

A thread?

You may be more astute then the casual reader. I doubt many get the subtlty in this, for example:

Moreover, the Americans, persuaded to send Marines to train the Lebanese Army, were punished with terrorist bombings of the U.S. embassy and Marine barracks at Beirut airport, with 241 U.S. dead.

When will the muslims in this country stand up against this garbage ...until they do ...they condone it ...where are the marches by muslims in this country against this ... where? ... people say all muslims do not feel this way ... then when will they stand up and speak out against it ...

re: #216 capitalist piglet

There were things in the videos he showed (and clearly got off on) that I had never seen, and never heard about, and I have a more-than-average interest in WWII history.

My anger at this moment is white hot.

Righteous indignation! Many people need to see this. We ought to cause an avalanche of viewers, if possible. It can only help.

re: #215 Cato the Elder
Hi Cato! For the third time in this thread, I suggest that we ALL use the "share" button Charles has provided at the top of the comments and Digg it or whatever venue(s) of your choice might be.
Not saying this is necessarily the way to reach moderate muslims (and yes they do exist) but it's still a way to get the word out about this filth.

Al-Kalb's flow of 'logic' leading to the 'deduction' that Jews should die seems to follow the same misguided and twisted logic the Communists use to 'prove' that communism is the best and highest good for mankind:

Start with a few disjointed bits of history and tie them together with some compelling half-truths creating a lie that appears to be based upon truth. Then based upon this beginning, tie a few major events in history to the first lie and disregard or dismiss any other explanations to create the great lie. The great lie now appears to be based upon momentous events in history and indisputable facts. But it is just a lie.

When will the world realize that Hitler was a great man according to many Muslims?
His Mein Kampf remains a best-seller in Arab countries.

Why people don't disassociate themselves with others who hold Hitler up as a role model is beyond comprehension.

re: #171 ploome hineni

muslims see that as the absence of committment to religion, and a area to place the wedge of islam

individual freedom is death in islamic lands, muslims see individual freedom as treason and fitna

Some Muslims do, yes. By no means all. It is the others that Obama is trying to reach. To do that is not stupid; it is smart.

Reports from Iran suggest that discontent with the mullah regime is boiling hard just below the surface. Should we write those people off (most of them young, most of them fed up to the teeth with political Islam)? I think we should try to encourage them.

re: #223 JacksonTn

When will the muslims in this country stand up against this garbage ...until they do ...they condone it ...where are the marches by muslims in this country against this ... where? ... people say all muslims do not feel this way ... then when will they stand up and speak out against it ...

Naturally. Silence is consent. Which is why their silence after 9/11 was so horrifying.

re: #197 ploome hineni

waitaminit...they actually believe that every baby born is muslim, and their parents force them to become Christian or JEw or whatever

The prophets were given the "true religion" i.e., Islam, but the Jews and Christians perverted it.

And when you convert to Islam, you are reverting to what I suppose they consider the "chthonic religion."

(I'm not sure how pagans relate to this construct.)

Just one more element of cognitive dissonance in the intellectual chaos of Islam.

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

Post 9-11 American MSM needs an "Arab Affairs Desk" like every news channel has in Israel.

The "Let's see what they're saying in the Arab world" type segments are insane.

There (Israel) they know about it.

Here, not so much - until Israel acts, then it's all retroactive PR.

re: #228 Confuzed

When will the world realize that Hitler was a great man according to many Muslims?
His Mein Kampf remains a best-seller in Arab countries.

Why people don't disassociate themselves with others who hold Hitler up as a role model is beyond comprehension.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is also a hit in Muslim lands.

re: #177 Golem Akbar

I'm giving them credit for not sharing those views. They think they can stop it with their views. Yes, they are fooling themselves, but let's not forget that the left did fight the Nazis in WWII. [and I'm no leftist -- at least not anymore]

The American left actively opposed US involvement in WWII until Hitler invaded Russia. Overnight they became fervent supporters of American intervention on the side of the Allies (e.g., the Soviets and only incidentally the British). Those were their instructions from Moscow.

re: #198 realwest

Was that me in # 127 or maybe you were referencing someone from the TV. Like I said, I'm sure I wasn't stating an original thought...

The question is , would ordinary Muslims be outraged by this film or would they at some level approve?

Does anyone else think this video will back-fire?

After telling people that no Holocaust happened, then showing piles and piles of corpes, may cause a twinge of sympathy and understanding?

It is things like this that make us acutely aware what we are fighting against, and the costs of failure.

I see this and think only one thing: Praise the Creator for Israel! Every day Israel exists, everything this guy stands for is in mortal danger. It takes only one child to point out he is wrong about everything. Look at this colossal ignoramus. His basic facts and history are so far off it would take 2 lifetimes to reprogram himself right. Even sadder is he must be dealing with an audience of the ignorant because any informed society would run this clown out of town. In Egypt, he is a respected religious authority. He makes Fred Phelps seem moderate, learned and grounded. Fred has to disrupt the funerals of heroes to get any attention; Amin is a welcome informed commentator.

He does not even know the images on screen belie what he is saying or that anyone familiar with WWII history would be able to tell anyone who cared to listen that Germany's cities were turned to rubble AFTER 4 million of Europe's Jews were dead.

This guy and Archbishop Williamson should just get a room together and do sick twisted things while watching Elsa, She Bitch of the Gestapo.

Did I mention I own a gun?

Well, at least one radical is going downhill.
Al-Sadr

this propaganda is disgusting. does anyone know when this commentary was done? recently?

re: #222 buzzsawmonkey

There are very few images of the camps from when they were under Nazi rule, except for the films documenting "medical experiments" and the Potemkin Village films of Terezin; there are lots of images of the camps following their liberation.

Good point.

re: #242 caligal

Over the weekend.

Chances are that this "cleric" is a high-school drop out, who ended up in the Muslim Brotherhood's YMCA.

re: #223 JacksonTn

When will the muslims in this country stand up against this garbage ...until they do ...they condone it ...where are the marches by muslims in this country against this ... where? ... people say all muslims do not feel this way ... then when will they stand up and speak out against it ...

the silence is deafening...and where I come from silence is consent.
bastards.

Rush is talking about the stimulus package. 1/3 is for new government. and $200 million to Mall of America of which $21 million for SOD!

At this moment, I'm just as disgusted with members of the so-called right who think we're all somehow on the same team. People whose solution is to make pacts with the spawn of the very nazis who gave us the Holocaust in the first place. And others who want to destroy science and send us into the backwards culture of the barbarians calling for a second Holocaust. It makes me sick to think of those who want to claim to be on my side, but in reality only help our enemies. F*ck 'em all.

Car Wreck

People debate the government "rescue" of the American car industry. It's no debate. Nobody ever questions the premise that government even CAN "save" the car industry, much less should even try.

Here's what General Motors Vice Chairman Bob Lutz recently had to say on the subject of government intervention in the auto industry: "With fuel prices declining, government mandates that auto makers build highly fuel-efficient cars will be no more effective than combating obesity by forcing clothing manufacturers to make only small sizes. It puts us in the industry in the position where we are at war with the customer."

Actually, so does ALL government intervention in the economy. Government intervention in the economy starts with government subsidy of what was once a private industry. Government is in the process of taking over both banking and automobiles. Health care is soon to follow. Government uses force and coercion to replace shopping on the part of the consumer. Government makes choices FOR the customer. Mixing government and economy is like mixing government and religion, or government and journalism. There is one size fits all--regardless of what makes rational sense, and regardless of what individuals want.

I don't believe that most Americans are ready for this or want this. Yet this is what they're about to get. Let's see how well it works out for those who currently want to "give the new President" a chance.

re: #223 JacksonTn

When will the muslims in this country stand up against this garbage ...until they do ...they condone it ...where are the marches by muslims in this country against this ... where? ... people say all muslims do not feel this way ... then when will they stand up and speak out against it ...

Bingo. It's because there are no moderates. Ok, I have seen 3 or 4.

re: #193 buzzsawmonkey

I hadn't read your post about his lying when I wrote what I said in #227. Seems we thought the same thing.

re: #238 Ben Hur

Does anyone else think this video will back-fire?

After telling people that no Holocaust happened, then showing piles and piles of corpes, may cause a twinge of sympathy and understanding?

This is the same culture that can blame the Jews for the WTC collapse, and take credit for the attack at the same time. There are no limits to the lies they can tell themselves about Jews, as far as I can tell.

re: #236 opnion

The question is , would ordinary Muslims be outraged by this film or would they at some level approve?

It would indeed be interesting to know which way they would go.

No reasonable, rational, sane person can look at those photos and video of those dead bodies, and the walking skeletons we just saw, being treated with such utter contempt and disrespect, and not feel complete revulsion followed by a committment that this must never happen again.

So yes, indeed, it would be most interesting to know how an "ordinary" muslim would react to this.

And remember, Lizards.

This is YOUR tax dollars at work.

re: #234 Son of the Black Dog

The American left actively opposed US involvement in WWII until Hitler invaded Russia. Overnight they became fervent supporters of American intervention on the side of the Allies (e.g., the Soviets and only incidentally the British). Those were their instructions from Moscow.

The Communists were on the fence until Hitler invaded Russia, but many more lefty-liberals in the US were anti-Nazi. My (Jewish, obviously) family pre-WWII was very liberal and very anti-Nazi, and believed then that only liberals were sufficiently anti-Nazi. [I'm a boomer baby, and this was told to me by my elders] Many liberals today consider themselves anti-fascist, and a video such as this could be a cold-shower wake up call.

Someone send this to George Mitchell to show him that this is not Catholic v. Protestant.

re: #2 Kosh's Shadow

These are the people our president reached out to last night.
Is he stupid or evil? You decide.

Maybe both.

That Egyptian cleric is vile and strikingly stupid! If he relocated, he could probably easily win a US Senate or House seat, as a Democrat of course, from more than a few wacky states to our north, west and mid-west.

The 'firsts' for President Obama are very telling. Without doubt, these 'firsts' will embolden our terrorist enemies. Time after time history has taught most of us this truism. Democrats seem to have no respect or knowledge of the history they have written. Obama is either a fool, an idiot or a man on a personal mission for that and those which he holds dear...our enemies!

re: #247 newsjunkie_ky

to replace the sod that was trampled last week? ( I know, it is winter)

Hey, there is a silver lining.

Abbas doesn't agree with this guy.

re: #246 LGoPs

silence is consent

That's why we need to make noise.

re: #261 Ben Hur

[WHACK]

This is Abbas' dissertation.

This is what a degree in Islamic Studies gets you I suppose. There are no words for this. Beyond that, this primitive didn't even know what he was actually seeing in those movies based on his commentary. That bogus pistachio story at the end typifies what passes as critical thinking in the Islamic world. There is no hope for these people. Perpetual humiliation (since they're so big on that) is their natural state and shall always be as long as Islam continues in its present form.

Its only a matter of time before some cleric hypothesizes that Hitler was sent by the prophet to do allah's work.

The Arab world is sicker than the NAZIS! Sicker than I thought possible from even the most rabid antisemitic. I would like to know if our new president has seen this and, if so, did it affect his most recent statements on Al Arabiya (not looking up the spelling)?

re: #264 WriterMom

[WHACK]

This is Abbas' dissertation.

I thought Abbas said that the holocaust didn't happen. But then again, he'd still like another way, either way. [death to Israel is the watchword of Fatah]

re: #242 caligal

this propaganda is disgusting. does anyone know when this commentary was done? recently?

It was shown yesterday on Egyptian television.

re: #249 gmsc

Good post. Remember price setting under NRA during the Roosevelt administration (first IIRC)? It was a disaster. Tom Sowell, Walter Williams, and other economists get it right when they say that no government can possibly understand, much less control, the millions and millions of individual decisions that drive an economy.

And yet, Obama wants to "try it again".

As zombie said-there are some very serious sexual pathologies at work here-not just in this video of course-it's a generalized issue that we can see in many other areas of Islamic culture. A culture that has healthy attitudes toward human life, procreation, sexuality and children rejects this barbarism.

re: #266 bulwrk

Its only a matter of time before some cleric hypothesizes that Hitler was sent by the prophet to do allah's work.

I would not be surprised int he slightest.