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Was I to believe him in earnest in his intention to penetrate to the centre of this massive globe? Had I been listening to the mad speculations of a lunatic, or to the scientific conclusions of a lofty genius? Where did truth stop? Where did error begin?

Jules Verne, Journey to the Center of the Earth

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630 comments

1 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:06:18pm

Take my change. . .please

2 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:06:59pm

I'm hopen. I'm hopen.

Problem is, nothing is changing.

/damn

3 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:07:58pm

re: #2 unreconstructed rebel

I'm hopen. I'm hopen.

Problem is, nothing is changing.

/damn

Yes, I guess Hope really is just a small town in Arkansas. . .

4 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:08:14pm

Blago is sorry.......


For swearing.....

Mr. Blagojevich’s television appearances on Monday, in which he revealed that he had considered appointing Oprah Winfrey to the Senate, apologized for using foul language and quoted Rudyard Kipling.
5 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:09:00pm

re: #4 jcm

Blago is sorry.......

Yes, a sorry excuse for a human.

6 Cathypop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:09:10pm

Has anyone received their unicorn? I specificaly asked for a blue one.

7 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:09:24pm

re: #4 jcm

Blago is sorry.......

For swearing.....

Whar really irritates me is all the airtime the MSM gives this PoS.

8 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:09:36pm

re: #4 jcm

Blago is sorry.......

For swearing.....

Poor poor Kipling . . .sigh.

9 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:09:37pm

re: #5 MrSilverDragon

Yes, a sorry excuse for a human.

But the hair, the hair makes up for it all....
/////

10 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:09:45pm

What - pimf

11 rightside  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:09:58pm

The ignorance and arrogance of this administration will be our downfall.

12 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:10:14pm

Sometimes I feel as though I am a lunatic for believing somewhere there is truth beyond error.

13 Cathypop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:10:18pm

re: #4 jcm

Blago is sorry.......


For swearing.....

Sorry for wasting oxygen?

14 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:10:34pm

re: #4 jcm

Blago is sorry.......

For swearing.....

I'm sorry too....sorry Blago is allowed to even speak in front of a microphone. His ego is the size of the Sears Building.....he is going to be impeached and it does not seem to phase him. He should share some of that stuff he's smoking, I would like my reality to take a day or two off as well.....

15 happy_mama  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:10:40pm
Problem is, nothing is changing.

Certainly things are changing - but all for the worse. And quickly too.

I heard my unicorn lost its job....now they need to add a new line item to the bailouts - UURP (Unemployed Unicorn Recovery Program)

16 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:10:52pm

But, but, it for is CHILDREN! that he shouldn't be inmpeached...typical liberal defense.....

17 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:10:59pm

Good terrorist and Holocaust denier has proof Israel is not interested in peace.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas vowed on Tuesday to take a tough stance in talks with Israel and said he would tell a U.S. envoy that Israel's Gaza offensive proved it was not intent on peacemaking.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Everyone knows that if Israel really wanted peace they should tolerate continuous rocket fire like good little Dhimmis.

18 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:11:02pm
his intention to penetrate to the centre of this massive globe?

He found that there is no gravity there.......the earth sucks......
/

19 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:11:37pm

re: #15 happy_mama

Certainly things are changing - but all for the worse. And quickly too.

I heard my unicorn lost its job....now they need to add a new line item to the bailouts - UURP (Unemployed Unicorn Recovery Program)

The unicorn is already under the bus and the bad new is, WE are next!

20 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:11:41pm

re: #4 jcm

Blago is sorry.......


For swearing.....

Fucking pin-head.

21 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:11:48pm

re: #9 jcm

But the hair, the hair makes up for it all....
/////

I'll take my 3 ft. locks over his tribble any day. :)

22 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:12:16pm

Since I am such a fan of both historical/tech/adventure and TV shows like LOST, it was recommended that I get "Foucault's Pendulum" by Umberto Eco.

Whoa, looking over the chapters and just scanning the text, I think I need a degree in Quantum Physics.

For LOST fans, the reason this was recommended is there probably is a tie-in with the actual concepts of Foucaults pendulum. If you saw the season opener, Mrs. Hawkings was using some sort of machine with a pendulum to plot something on a map (as in, where the Island will next appear).

Any comment on the book WITHOUT SPOILERS.

23 razorbacker  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:12:32pm

Here in Northwest Arkansas, and from what I see on the satellite most of Oklahoma, we're in the grip of a pretty severe ice storm. I've got a base coat of about an inch or so of ice on the ground and trees with more coming down. We are forecast for a few inches of snow and sleet to top it off tonight.

Electricity is sporatic, and satellite internet also comes and goes. We're hearing the crash of trees on the hill behind us.

I sure hope that I've got enough wood in the dry to last until the thaw comes.

24 jcbunga  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:12:40pm

He looks like some sort of mutant pez dispenser.

25 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:13:02pm

re: #7 unreconstructed rebel

Whar really irritates me is all the airtime the MSM gives this PoS.

What really irritates me is the timing of the whole dance.
If/when Blago is officially impeached, how far does Fitzpatrick's probe go beyond the governor, if it isn't dropped by then?

... all supporting actors will have resigned without prosecution, also.

26 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:13:09pm

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

Since I am such a fan of both historical/tech/adventure and TV shows like LOST, it was recommended that I get "Foucault's Pendulum" by Umberto Eco.

Whoa, looking over the chapters and just scanning the text, I think I need a degree in Quantum Physics.

For LOST fans, the reason this was recommended is there probably is a tie-in with the actual concepts of Foucaults pendulum. If you saw the season opener, Mrs. Hawkings was using some sort of machine with a pendulum to plot something on a map (as in, where the Island will next appear).

Any comment on the book WITHOUT SPOILERS.

42...?
/

27 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:13:13pm

re: #4 jcm

Blago is sorry.......


For swearing.....

Only thing he's sorry for is getting caught........

28 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:13:13pm

Talked to a former gunsmith buddy today, the new regs say that to work on anyone's firearms they need an ffl, no more shops in your homes, and they can still do a no knock entry to check out your home anyway if they want. Another ammendment this time trying for a 500% tax on Ammo, and prices on existing weapons are climbing at each gun show in his area....Some change huh?

29 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:13:23pm

Ohhhhh, The government saved us yet again!

Senate Backs Digital Delay Bill

As expected, the U.S. Senate on Monday voted unanimously in favor of a bill that will postpone the broadcaset TV digital transition for about four months, from February 17 to June 12, 2009.

But we not stoopid as they thunk.

"Consumer awareness of the digital television transition is at an all time high, but many over-the-air households are slow to take the steps necessary to continue to view television when analog signals cease," according to a report from the Association of Public Television Stations.


Why buy one when your unicorn will shit one onto you TV stand at any moment?

30 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:13:31pm

PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- The brother of a Providence basketball player who ran onto the court to confront a referee was ordered held without bail Tuesday for allegedly violating his probation from a 2005 drug conviction.

[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

I wonder what his GPA is in college?
/

31 Render  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:13:33pm

Where are the Jews of Syria?

- Over 100,000 Jews lived in Syria in 1948. Now there are less than 1,000.

Where are the Jews of Egypt?

- Almost 80,000 Jews lived in Egypt in 1948. Now there are less than 100.

Where are the Jews of Iran?

- Prior to the Islamic Revolution in 1979, there were 80,000 Jews in Iran. Less than thirty years later there are around 20,000 Jews remaining in Iran.

Where are the Jews of Iraq?

- In 1948 there were 140,000 Jews living in Iraq. Now there are less than 100.

Where are the Jews of Morocco?

- In 1948 there were 265,000 Jews living in Morocco. Now there are less than 5,000.

Where are the Jews of Algeria?

- In 1948 there were 140,000 Jews in living in Algeria. Now there are none.

Where are the Jews of Libya?

- In 1948 there were 48,000 Jews living in Libya. Now there are none.

Where are the Jews of Lebanon?

- In 1948 there were 20,000 Jews living in Lebanon. Now there are less than 100.

Where are the Jews of Jordan?

- The number of Jews living in (Trans) Jordan prior to 1948 is unknown. What is known is that Jordan maintains a law stating that no Jew may be a Jordanian citizen.

Where are the Jews of Yemen?

- In 1948 55,000 Jews lived in Yemen. Now there are less than 200.

Where are the Jews of Tunisia?

- In 1948 there were 105,000 Jews living in Tunisia. Now there are less than 1,000.

Where are the Jews of Saudi Arabia?

- It is unknown how many Jews lived in Saudi Arabia in 1948. However Saudi Arabia maintains a law that no Jew may enter the country.

Where are the Jews of Turkey?

- In 1948 80,000 Jews lived in Turkey. Now there are less than 18,000.

All statistics sourced from:

[Link: [Link: www.labyrinth.net.au...]...]

The above link is no longer valid.

[Link: [Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]...]

[Link: [Link: www.justiceforjews.com...]...]

[Link: [Link: www.jcpa.org...]...]

[Link: [Link: www.jcpa.org...]...]

[Link: [Link: www.aish.com...]...]

[Link: [Link: www.dinur.org...]...]

[Link: [Link: www.mfa.gov.il...]...]

[Link: [Link: www.jimena.org...]...]

[Link: [Link: www.marathon.uwc.edu...]...]

A single Wiki entry - that has been heavily edited by Jew-haters.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

And of course the UN makes no mention of any of this...

[Link: [Link: www.un.org...]...]

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32 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:13:45pm

re: #17 Opinionated

Good terrorist and Holocaust denier has proof Israel is not interested in peace.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Everyone knows that if Israel really wanted peace they should tolerate continuous rocket fire like good little Dhimmis.

If the REALLY wanted peace they would walk out of their houses, shops and business' right now, and march arm in arm peacefully into the sea. That would bring peace to the region....for about 5 minutes. Then, the Palis would start with the infighting.

33 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:13:52pm

re: #21 MrSilverDragon

I'll take my 3 ft. locks over his tribble any day. :)

ROFLMAO!

34 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:14:01pm

re: #6 Cathypop

Has anyone received their unicorn? I specificaly asked for a blue one.

Got mine in powdered form. Here's a recipe for Unicorn Soup.

35 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:14:05pm

re: #28 Marvo76

Talked to a former gunsmith buddy today, the new regs say that to work on anyone's firearms they need an ffl, no more shops in your homes, and they can still do a no knock entry to check out your home anyway if they want. Another ammendment this time trying for a 500% tax on Ammo, and prices on existing weapons are climbing at each gun show in his area....Some change huh?

What state do you live in? Which regs?

36 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:14:15pm

re: #9 jcm

But the hair, the hair makes up for it all....
/////

The hair of a LEGO man.

37 Amer-I-Can  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:14:26pm

If PBO keeps it up, he may find his "Journey to the Center of the Earth" all too quickly... or maybe he can dig us all the way to China?

38 mikalm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:14:37pm

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

That's a fine book. I'd call it a historically accurate answer to THE DA VINCI CODE, except that Eco wrote the book over a decade before Brown penned his magnum opiate.

39 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:14:41pm

re: #6 Cathypop

Has anyone received their unicorn? I specificaly asked for a blue one.

I wanted one that shone silver in the moonlight.

40 Render  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:14:46pm

re: #31 Render

Having a hell of time getting links to work like links today.

SORRY
CHARLES,
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41 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:15:10pm

re: #28 Marvo76

Talked to a former gunsmith buddy today, the new regs say that to work on anyone's firearms they need an ffl, no more shops in your homes, and they can still do a no knock entry to check out your home anyway if they want. Another ammendment this time trying for a 500% tax on Ammo, and prices on existing weapons are climbing at each gun show in his area....Some change huh?

Are these new regs, or proposed new regs? (I also have a friend who is both a gunsmith and a barrel maker. But, he already has an FFL.)

42 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:15:17pm

re: #29 jcm

Ohhhhh, The government saved us yet again!

Senate Backs Digital Delay Bill


Why buy one when your unicorn will shit one onto you TV stand at any moment?

What about the remote?

43 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:15:22pm

re: #26 Oh no...Sand People!

42...?
/

That help bunches honey:)

44 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:15:26pm

Work calls. Gotta run. Keep it up.

45 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:15:44pm

re: #28 Marvo76

Talked to a former gunsmith buddy today, the new regs say that to work on anyone's firearms they need an ffl, no more shops in your homes, and they can still do a no knock entry to check out your home anyway if they want. Another ammendment this time trying for a 500% tax on Ammo, and prices on existing weapons are climbing at each gun show in his area....Some change huh?

HR 45 is pretty devious. Stops all personal transactions of guns. If you want to get your boy a hunting rifle, must take him to a shop, fingerprint, register him and the gun, background check etc. etc. to do the transaction.

46 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:16:02pm
Where did truth stop? Where did error begin?

Washington, D.C.

Jan. 20, 2009.

47 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:16:18pm

re: #32 Desert Dog

If the REALLY wanted peace they would walk out of their houses, shops and business' right now, and march arm in arm peacefully into the sea.

The Arabs would claim they spoiled the fishing.

48 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:16:29pm

re: #29 jcm

LOL!

49 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:16:33pm
50 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:16:40pm

re: #31 Render

Excellent work.

51 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:16:40pm

re: #39 Dianna

I wanted one that shone silver in the moonlight.

EXPECTO PATRONUM!

/right...forgot it's a squirrel...carry on

52 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:16:47pm

re: #35 Creeping Eruption

he lives in KY, new proposed FFL regs he recieved in Oct.

53 UberInfidel67  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:16:48pm

re: #22 Walter L. Newton I saw that! I only kinda understood what was happening because no one in my house would shut the hell up and let me watch it though! Gonna have to watch it again online. It sure cleared alot up though.

54 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:16:59pm

re: #31 Render

Thanks, I'm saving this.

55 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:17:06pm

re: #38 mikalm

That's a fine book. I'd call it a historically accurate answer to THE DA VINCI CODE, except that Eco wrote the book over a decade before Brown penned his magnum opiate.

I know, which was evident in the price I paid. "Foucault's Pendulum" was written in 1989 and it's still selling for 15 dollars. You can get Brown on sale for 59 cents.

56 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:17:07pm

re: #45 Oh no...Sand People!

HR 45 is pretty devious. Stops all personal transactions of guns. If you want to get your boy a hunting rifle, must take him to a shop, fingerprint, register him and the gun, background check etc. etc. to do the transaction.

When you think about it, there's really no practical way to stop the personal transfer/sale of guns. This bill simply seeks to make criminals of law-abiding people. Spit.

57 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:17:17pm

re: #25 jwb7605

Daley is the ultimate taget of these investigations.

58 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:17:31pm

re: #29 jcm

Ohhhhh, The government saved us yet again!

Senate Backs Digital Delay Bill


Why buy one when your unicorn will shit one onto you TV stand at any moment?

4 months. Is that when their checks arrive ?

59 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:17:42pm

re: #28 Marvo76

Talked to a former gunsmith buddy today, the new regs say that to work on anyone's firearms they need an ffl, no more shops in your homes, and they can still do a no knock entry to check out your home anyway if they want. Another ammendment this time trying for a 500% tax on Ammo, and prices on existing weapons are climbing at each gun show in his area....Some change huh?

What in the world?

60 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:17:53pm

re: #42 MandyManners

What about the remote?

Government exercise program....... get up and change the channel!

61 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:17:54pm

...digital TV conversion postponed 'til June............
SCIENCE!
/40+ million converter box coupons given away so far...........
SOCIALISM!

62 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:18:12pm

re: #14 Desert Dog

I'm sorry too....sorry Blago is allowed to even speak in front of a microphone. His ego is the size of the Sears Building.....he is going to be impeached and it does not seem to phase him. He should share some of that stuff he's smoking, I would like my reality to take a day or two off as well.....

I'm really not sure of that anymore that he'll be impeached.

63 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:18:19pm

re: #41 subsailor68

I believe he did say proposed, but he had recieved a previous letter from F-Troop that he was no longer allowed to work on firearms because he didn't have and FFL anymore.

64 Render  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:18:21pm

re: #54 vagabond trader

You might want to wait until Charles has a chance to fix the links I've made a mess of.

STUPID
HTML
USER,
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65 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:18:33pm

re: #59 MandyManners

What in the world?

From his later post, it appears these are proposed changes.

At least at this point.

66 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:18:37pm

re: #53 UberInfidel67

I saw that! I only kinda understood what was happening because no one in my house would shut the hell up and let me watch it though! Gonna have to watch it again online. It sure cleared alot up though.

Shameless self promotion...

[Link: www.docarzt.com...]

For some insight.

67 jcbunga  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:19:09pm

OK, here's the plan--

-Oppose this punk at every turn. Call him out. He can't take the heat.
-Get a new party of opposition ready for 2010. Throw them all out.
-Roll back what's being put in place now.

Dictate that.

Punk.

68 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:19:10pm

How far below the surface of earth did Verne think his characters went?
I mean, the magma was still beneath them so it wasn't even through the crust.
I bet we do have an underground ''ocean'' or two in there someplace.
I saw those gigantic underground crystals in the caves in Mexico on NatGeo and water had to be involved.

[Link: channel.nationalgeographic.com...]
[Link: channel.nationalgeographic.com...]
[Link: channel.nationalgeographic.com...]

69 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:19:12pm
Was I to believe him in earnest in his intention to penetrate to the centre of this massive globe? Had I been listening to the mad speculations of a lunatic, or to the scientific conclusions of a lofty genius? Where did truth stop? Where did error begin?

/dig deep enough and you'll find out in a big hurry

70 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:19:21pm

Oh hence, pang

is an anagram for

Hopenchange

71 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:19:26pm

re: #62 Soona'

I'm really not sure of that anymore that he'll be impeached.

that is almost too funny.....I hope all of the drones in IL that voted for him are pleased with their choice.

72 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:19:45pm

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

Since I am such a fan of both historical/tech/adventure and TV shows like LOST, it was recommended that I get "Foucault's Pendulum" by Umberto Eco.

Whoa, looking over the chapters and just scanning the text, I think I need a degree in Quantum Physics.

For LOST fans, the reason this was recommended is there probably is a tie-in with the actual concepts of Foucaults pendulum. If you saw the season opener, Mrs. Hawkings was using some sort of machine with a pendulum to plot something on a map (as in, where the Island will next appear).

Any comment on the book WITHOUT SPOILERS.

Major comment: Read it, it's great.

Eco does a bang-up job of telling the story, and his side-excursions into the history of the Templars and syncretic religion are excellent.

These are not spoilers.

73 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:19:46pm

re: #57 Honorary Yooper

Daley is the ultimate taget of these investigations.

Amazingly, it's the dead Daley their after.

74 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:19:46pm

re: #63 Marvo76

I believe he did say proposed, but he had recieved a previous letter from F-Troop that he was no longer allowed to work on firearms because he didn't have and FFL anymore.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks.

75 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:19:55pm

re: #36 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The hair of a LEGO man.

Notify LEGO legal dept. That has copyright infringement written all over it!

76 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:20:12pm

re: #61 IslandLibertarian
I let mine expire, and they tell me know I couldn't send them back and get new ones, I just missed the boat...

77 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:20:17pm

Heh heh, Citicorp isn't getting their 50 mil jet, and Pelousi won't get free condoms for poor victims of their own sexual needs.Guess we'll have to be glad for the little victories, tho I do wonder who is getting the plane.

78 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:20:28pm

BAY CITY, Mich. – A 93-year-old man froze to death inside his home just days after the municipal power company restricted his use of electricity because of unpaid bills, officials said.

Marvin E. Schur died "a slow, painful death," said Kanu Virani, Oakland County's deputy chief medical examiner, who performed the autopsy.

Neighbors discovered Schur's body on Jan. 17. They said the indoor temperature was below 32 degrees at the time, The Bay City Times reported Monday.

"Hypothermia shuts the whole system down, slowly," Virani said. "It's not easy to die from hypothermia without first realizing your fingers and toes feel like they're burning."

Schur owed Bay City Electric Light & Power more than $1,000 in unpaid electric bills, Bay City Manager Robert Belleman told The Associated Press on Monday.

A city utility worker had installed a "limiter" device to restrict the use of electricity at Schur's home on Jan. 13, Belleman said. The device limits power reaching a home and blows out like a fuse if consumption rises past a set level. Power is not restored until the device is reset.

SNIP

79 Maximu§  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:20:48pm

re: #27 LGoPs

Only thing he's sorry for is getting caught........

Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses and Whine for Blago.

80 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:20:54pm

re: #62 Soona'

I'm really not sure of that anymore that he'll be impeached.

I am. The Machine will turn enough screws to make sure it happens. Blago made the mistake that Fredo did of turning on The Family. When Blago turned on Dick Mel a few years ago, the writing was on the wall.

81 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:00pm

re: #29 jcm

Ohhhhh, The government saved us yet again!

Senate Backs Digital Delay Bill

Why buy one when your unicorn will shit one onto you TV stand at any moment?

/Digital TV delay cost some TV channels $40,000/month

82 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:02pm

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton suggested on Tuesday the world was breathing a sigh of relief that President Barack Obama had replaced George W. Bush and was working to fix the damage he had caused.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Ah Hilliary. Exhale on this!

83 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:06pm

re: #63 Marvo76

I believe he did say proposed, but he had recieved a previous letter from F-Troop that he was no longer allowed to work on firearms because he didn't have and FFL anymore.

Proposed by whom?

84 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:08pm

Meanwhile ...

'Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said, "The IDF's response today was an operational one," Olmert said. "This is not a response to an incident in which an IDF soldier was killed and three injured. The Israeli response to this incident will come."
He added, "We didn't say the ceasefire was fragile for nothing. It's not for nothing that an order for a unilateral ceasefire was given. Israel did not sign an agreement with Hamas, but decided to cease its fire unilaterally. This allows us the military maneuvering space to respond to such incidents." (Roni Sofer)'

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

85 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:20pm

re: #17 Opinionated

Good terrorist and Holocaust denier has proof Israel is not interested in peace.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Everyone knows that if Israel really wanted peace they should tolerate continuous rocket fire like good little Dhimmis.

But will this lead the world to realize it is the Palestinians who are the obstacle to peace?
No, they'll still blame the Jews, because they aren't dying like good Jews are supposed to.
Mitchel, go [expletive deleted] home unless you are going to tell the Palis they'll never have peace or another state if they keep this up.
Why do I think he is still going to tell Israel to make more sacrifices?

86 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:32pm

re: #60 jcm

Government exercise program....... get up and change the channel!

I knew I had The Kid for some reason.

87 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:33pm

re: #45 Oh no...Sand People!

HR 45 is pretty devious. Stops all personal transactions of guns. If you want to get your boy a hunting rifle, must take him to a shop, fingerprint, register him and the gun, background check etc. etc. to do the transaction.

I know this is a naive question but with all this registration, what will keep them from just coming and confiscating all these guns that have been registered. All the information they need is in their database.........
How do we protect ourselves from that?

88 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:40pm

re: #81 Killian Bundy

/Digital TV delay cost some TV channels $40,000/month

As the modern media is primarily about making a buck, I'm sure that's a drop in the bucket for them.

89 razorbacker  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:41pm

re: #77 vagabond trader

Heh heh, Citicorp isn't getting their 50 mil jet, and Pelousi won't get free condoms for poor victims of their own sexual needs.Guess we'll have to be glad for the little victories, tho I do wonder who is getting the plane.

I'm no banking expert, but if you're snaffling billions of dollars from American taxpayers, why in the world are you buying a French airplane?

90 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:47pm

re: #56 subsailor68

When you think about it, there's really no practical way to stop the personal transfer/sale of guns. This bill simply seeks to make criminals of law-abiding people. Spit.

It's bloody ludicrous. If your gun is stolen you have 72 hours to report it, since you are registered to it so if it is stolen and something goes wrong...you are automatically in the 'sights' of the law.

91 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:21:58pm

re: #68 mean Gene

How far below the surface of earth did Verne think his characters went?
I mean, the magma was still beneath them so it wasn't even through the crust.
I bet we do have an underground ''ocean'' or two in there someplace.
I saw those gigantic underground crystals in the caves in Mexico on NatGeo and water had to be involved.

[Link: channel.nationalgeographic.com...]
[Link: channel.nationalgeographic.com...]
[Link: channel.nationalgeographic.com...]

He was playing around with some of the popular pseudo-science of the times about a hollow earth, such as the book "The Smokey God."

The "hollow" was not quite in the center, more like around the edge of some inner world.

92 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:22:19pm

re: #31 Render

Number of Jews in Afghanistan in 1948: 5000
Number of Jews in Afghanistan today: 2

93 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:22:27pm

re: #34 Alouette

Got mine in powdered form. Here's a recipe for Unicorn Soup.

Good soup. Tastes like chicken.

94 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:22:30pm

re: #79 Maximu§

Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses and Whine for Blago.

If you get pulled over on a drunk horse, who get's to walk the line...?...:)

95 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:22:33pm

re: #6 Cathypop

Has anyone received their unicorn? I specificaly asked for a blue one.

Still waiting for mine. I'm sure they mailed it parcel post which means to Hawaii aka Obamaland (if you live on Oahu) it could take months!
/heavy sigh

96 DistantThunder  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:22:46pm

Just saw the Movie Defiance - I think it is worth seeing.

Now I want to read the book and get the details of the true story. I sense lots of Hollywood veneer that tainted the true story.

97 jcbunga  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:22:56pm

re: #82 Nevergiveup

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton suggested on Tuesday the world was breathing a sigh of relief that President Barack Obama had replaced George W. Bush and was working to fix the damage he had caused.

The only time the world breathes a sigh of relief is when her ass shifts to another fault line.

98 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:23:07pm

re: #38 mikalm

That's a fine book. I'd call it a historically accurate answer to THE DA VINCI CODE, except that Eco wrote the book over a decade before Brown penned his magnum opiate.

I think he wrote it because of Holy Blood, Holy Grail.

99 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:23:15pm

Saudi hails Obama's stance towards Arab world

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Anyone else feel that breeze?

100 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:23:25pm

re: #83 MandyManners

Proposed by whom?

It appears to be this bill:

HR 45

101 DistantThunder  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:23:30pm

re: #85 Kosh's Shadow

But will this lead the world to realize it is the Palestinians who are the obstacle to peace?
No, they'll still blame the Jews, because they aren't dying like good Jews are supposed to.
Mitchel, go [expletive deleted] home unless you are going to tell the Palis they'll never have peace or another state if they keep this up.
Why do I think he is still going to tell Israel to make more sacrifices?

Quote in the movie Defiance: We Jews are good at Dying.

102 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:23:55pm

re: #97 jcbunga

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton suggested on Tuesday the world was breathing a sigh of relief that President Barack Obama had replaced George W. Bush

I can't take this anymore


Back later

103 DistantThunder  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:24:01pm

re: #99 Nevergiveup

Saudi hails Obama's stance towards Arab world

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Anyone else feel that breeze?

Feels hot - I think hell is upon us.

104 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:24:07pm
105 Maximu§  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:24:07pm

re: #94 Dustyvet

If you get pulled over on a drunk horse, who get's to walk the line...?...:)

This old Cavalry Scout would never throw his horse under the bus.

106 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:24:18pm

re: #51 OldLineTexan

EXPECTO PATRONUM!

/right...forgot it's a squirrel...carry on

I'll keep Salvatore away; he'd probably pull out his tommy gun and start blasting!

107 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:24:20pm

re: #89 razorbacker

Because our illustrious congress handed them a big fat blank check with no oversite.

108 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:24:24pm

re: #101 DistantThunder

Quote in the movie Defiance: We Jews are good at Dying.

Thankfully, they're also good at surviving.

109 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:24:45pm

re: #88 MrSilverDragon

As the modern media is primarily about making a buck, I'm sure that's a drop in the bucket for them.

That's not the point.

/four extra months isn't going to help the morons that couldn't bother to get a converter in the last two years

110 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:24:50pm

re: #32 Desert Dog

If the REALLY wanted peace they would walk out of their houses, shops and business' right now, and march arm in arm peacefully into the sea. That would bring peace to the region....for about 5 minutes. Then, the Palis would start with the infighting.

Whaddaya mean, 'would start'?

They're at it already, certainly in Hamastan ...

111 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:24:52pm

re: #77 vagabond trader

Heh heh, Citicorp isn't getting their 50 mil jet, and Pelousi won't get free condoms for poor victims of their own sexual needs.Guess we'll have to be glad for the little victories, tho I do wonder who is getting the plane.

The Illinois governors office. Hush money. ;)

112 DistantThunder  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:25:06pm

re: #108 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Thankfully, they're also good at surviving.

They survived for 3 years in the forest in Belarussia. 1200 - quite an impressive feat.

113 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:25:09pm

4 hours on the phone because a jackass can't follow simple fucking directions.

114 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:25:19pm

Speaking of weather, our forecast for today is Scattered showers with some thundershowers this morning and showers later...

Who writes that garbage. Why don't they just say, it's gonna rain and we're not sure when it's gonna stop!

115 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:25:20pm

re: #99 Nevergiveup

Saudi hails Obama's stance towards Arab world

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Anyone else feel that breeze?

Smells like burning flesh....

116 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:25:35pm

re: #109 Killian Bundy

That's not the point.

/four extra months isn't going to help the morons that couldn't bother to get a converter in the last two years

Very true. Just offering a tangent point.

117 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:25:58pm

re: #100 subsailor68

It appears to be this bill:

HR 45

With the current SCOTUS, based on just a glance of it, I'm not sure this will pass Constitutional muster.

118 jorline  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:26:15pm

No conflict of interest here.

Mitchell’s Firm Worked for Dubai Ruler in Jockey Case

George Mitchell, President Barack Obama’s special Middle East troubleshooter, was chairman of a law firm that was paid about $8 million representing Dubai’s ruler in connection with a child-trafficking lawsuit.

The DLA Piper law firm did legal and lobbying work on the case, which alleged that Dubai’s Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al- Maktoum and another official used children kidnapped from other countries to ride as jockeys in camel races. The firm lobbied federal agencies, members of the U.S. House and about two dozen Senate offices, including those of Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2006 and 2007, according to Justice Department foreign-agent disclosures.

119 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:26:31pm

re: #87 LGoPs

I know this is a naive question but with all this registration, what will keep them from just coming and confiscating all these guns that have been registered. All the information they need is in their database.........
How do we protect ourselves from that?

I guarantee there are many sheriff's and cops that fall in the 2nd amendment camp. I can imagine a young cop, "Hey, lets get their guns."

Sheriff, "Be my guest... I'll wait here and call up the ambulance to haul you off later..."

120 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:26:32pm

either way the firearms are gonna get expensive and ammo scarce if the great one has his way

121 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:26:36pm

re: #98 Dianna

I think he wrote it because of Holy Blood, Holy Grail.

Which is another "fine" books, if you love pseudo-history and want a good ride.

And HBHG, DC and such were not new themes, all of it was based on junk history that has been floating around for centuries.

I like HBHG, read it in the 80's, just picked up a use copy for a couple of bucks last year, just for fun.

My problem is with folks who can't separate these fiction/history books with real life.

Hell, the next thing you know, people in this country are going to believe in unicorns!

122 Render  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:26:39pm

re: #92 Kenneth

Now it's down to one.

BBC

I had considered Afghanistan for the original post - but I've since forgotten why I didn't include it...

WE
ARE
DYING,
R

123 Cathypop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:26:39pm

re: #113 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

4 hours on the phone because a jackass can't follow simple fucking directions.


Glad to hear you are having a nice day.

124 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:27:01pm

re: #117 Honorary Yooper

With the current SCOTUS, based on just a glance of it, I'm not sure this will pass Constitutional muster.

Wait until Barry proposes to increase the size of SCOTUS to 11 Justices.

125 Cicero05  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:27:11pm

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

126 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:27:18pm

re: #83 MandyManners

ATF

127 DistantThunder  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:27:25pm

re: #118 jorline

No conflict of interest here.

Mitchell’s Firm Worked for Dubai Ruler in Jockey Case

George Mitchell, President Barack Obama’s special Middle East troubleshooter, was chairman of a law firm that was paid about $8 million representing Dubai’s ruler in connection with a child-trafficking lawsuit.

The DLA Piper law firm did legal and lobbying work on the case, which alleged that Dubai’s Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al- Maktoum and another official used children kidnapped from other countries to ride as jockeys in camel races. The firm lobbied federal agencies, members of the U.S. House and about two dozen Senate offices, including those of Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2006 and 2007, according to Justice Department foreign-agent disclosures.

These boys are not only forced to wrk as slaves, but are often rape victims. It's abhorant - some people will do anything for money - anything.

128 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:27:47pm

re: #92 Kenneth

Number of Jews in Afghanistan in 1948: 5000
Number of Jews in Afghanistan today: 2

I thought it was just one.

129 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:27:57pm

re: #95 Maui Girl

I've heard a rumor that the Unicorns to be sent to Hawaii will be re-routed to DOT Honolulu and be used to pull the "Light Rail" trains to save on energy.
Eh', lucky you live da kine!

130 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:28:02pm

re: #124 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Wait until Barry proposes to increase the size of SCOTUS to 11 Justices.

FDR made that attempt and lost. BHO may take the exact same path.

131 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:28:07pm

re: #2 unreconstructed rebel

I'm hopen. I'm hopen.

Problem is, nothing is changing.

/damn

Problem is nothing hopend

132 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:28:14pm

re: #119 Oh no...Sand People!

I guarantee there are many sheriff's and cops that fall in the 2nd amendment camp. I can imagine a young cop, "Hey, lets get their guns."

Sheriff, "Be my guest... I'll wait here and call up the ambulance to haul you off later..."

I sure hope so......
I'd hate to rely on the pleasure of the government and their respect for the 2nd Amendment......
/

133 UberInfidel67  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:28:14pm

re: #127 DistantThunder
The whole damn O Administration is a giant conflict of interest!

134 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:28:28pm

re: #118 jorline

And we're not allowed to let monkeys race dogs in this country.

135 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:28:28pm

re: #87 LGoPs

I know this is a naive question but with all this registration, what will keep them from just coming and confiscating all these guns that have been registered. All the information they need is in their database.........
How do we protect ourselves from that?

This is the point where everything will become extreme.

136 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:28:34pm

re: #117 Honorary Yooper

With the current SCOTUS, based on just a glance of it, I'm not sure this will pass Constitutional muster.

I haven't read the entire thing yet, but I think you're probably right. At least for now. One or two changes in SCOTUS however....

137 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:28:44pm

re: #123 Cathypop

Glad to hear you are having a nice day.

I haven't had a good day since Jan 20th

138 Gordon Marock  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:28:49pm

Why is everyone so upset about George Mitchell representing Dubai in a child trafficking case? It is my understanding that he was able to work out a deal and settled the case as simple possession of children.

139 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:28:58pm
140 rightside  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:29:04pm

re: #56 subsailor68

Good thing I stocked up on firearms last fall.

141 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:29:11pm

re: #100 subsailor68

It appears to be this bill:

HR 45

Who's Blair Holt?

142 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:29:18pm

So, was Mitchell for or against child slavery in Dubai?

143 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:29:26pm

re: #42 MandyManners

What about the remote?

When the oceans recede they wash up on shore. . .

144 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:29:29pm

re: #87 LGoPs

House by house.

145 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:29:55pm

Well it's open thread..and I told this story on the DT.. But did not want to deprive all the lazards here a chance to laugh at me..
When I was new here I wanted to get Charles Attention..SO I DOWNDINGED HIM...Figures heck he should see that tonight.. I just wanted to tell him something tech or something..Now I look back in Horror realizing what a wack idea that was..! LOL
/ I wanted to say..My.. what large teeth you have grand lizard...
Charles is cool

146 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:29:57pm

re: #87 LGoPs

That's why we have the 2nd amendment. Funny how that works.

147 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:29:58pm

re: #140 rightside

Good thing I stocked up on firearms last fall.

Yep...and our "little band of brothers" here pretty well cleaned out Bass Pro a couple of weeks ago - ammo wise.

148 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:30:00pm

re: #138 Gordon Marock

Why is everyone so upset about George Mitchell representing Dubai in a child trafficking case? It is my understanding that he was able to work out a deal and settled the case as simple possession of children.

With no intent to sell. . .

149 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:30:08pm

So, for those paying attention to how the porkfest will get passed, the Democrats have attached yet another AMT patch to the bill to ensure that the GOP goes along with it.

150 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:30:17pm

re: #55 Walter L. Newton

I know, which was evident in the price I paid. "Foucault's Pendulum" was written in 1989 and it's still selling for 15 dollars. You can get Brown on sale for 59 cents.

That's about $5 more than it's worth IMHO.

151 DistantThunder  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:30:21pm

re: #135 Soona'

This is the point where everything will become extreme.

After just seeing Defiance it is humbly to recognize the vulnerability of an unarmed populace. They were scrounging bullets and guns that people had hidden from the authorities.

152 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:30:22pm

re: #133 UberInfidel67

The whole damn O Administration is a giant conflict of interest!

How can it be? He promised a transparent government, no pork, no handouts, no special interest, ethics...

I think you are having a total disconnect.

/

153 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:30:33pm

re: #123 Cathypop

Glad to hear you are having a nice day.

The fun part was explaining to my boss why he got an email from the dick saying I wasn't being cooperative and counterproductive. Boss joined the call, listened in as he watched what was going on. Boss said he would have a talk with me. He came over and said, "This guy is a dick"

154 SurferDoc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:30:44pm

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

Since I am such a fan of both historical/tech/adventure and TV shows like LOST, it was recommended that I get "Foucault's Pendulum" by Umberto Eco.


It's well worth reading. The story is good, complex, and wry. The background information is very interesting. You will remember the book for a long time after you have read it and in a few years you might pick it up again because you won't be able to recall all the intricate twists and turns.

155 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:30:57pm

re: #141 MandyManners

Who's Blair Holt?

In the intro area, it appears he was a young man killed when he threw himself over a girl when another boy (with a gun) boarded the bus and opened fire.

156 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:30:59pm

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” —- Karl Marx

“I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” —- Barak Obama

It's happening right before our eyes.

157 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:31:02pm

re: #104 taxfreekiller

can not watch this just now,
came from a friend who says
it comes via Canada due to
Time Warner threats to sue..


can not even make sure of the link

sorry

It is suposed to be about Bush warning Congress about the crisis in housing and banking..?

Wow, that confirms it! All of this is Bush's fault!

How Barney Frank is still sitting in Congress amazes me. The same with Shumer and Dodd.....those three did everything they could to block any type of reform. Then, when it did melt down....who do they blame? Greedy companies and Bush. They all sit there now with a straight face and tell us what the deal is? We truly live in a bizzaro world now.

158 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:31:05pm

Oh yes and If I remember what he said, "If you have your gun worked on BY an FFL you have to sign his books to get it back now", I believe he said "and go thru the system again" I last had one worked on in aprril so I don't know if it is true or not, but I am going to pay my local gunshop a visit and check to see what he says about it....if itis true, then it is time to buy some pvc and post hole diggers LOL...

159 Gordon Marock  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:31:09pm

re: #148 DisturbedEma

With no intent to sell. . .

Well, Dubai was required to attend mandatory child slavery rehab sessions. I hear going cold turkey was hell.

160 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:31:12pm

re: #125 Cicero05

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

I guess it really depends on how much mass the black hole can begin to absorb into itself, and how quickly it would be able to establish itself. But, considering there's cosmic rays bombarding our planet on a daily basis with more destructive power than what I can imagine the collider can create, I'm not too worried.

161 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:31:12pm

re: #139 taxfreekiller

Two party evil money cult.

I used to roll my eyes when I saw that, TFK, but now, I think you may be very much on-target with it. In Illinois, we simply call it "The Combine", as coined by John Kass of the Chicago Tribune.

162 UberInfidel67  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:31:23pm

re: #152 Walter L. Newton
Yeah...I guess your right
//////// srsly? lol

163 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:31:39pm

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

Ha!

I collect crank literature. HBHG remains the best-written and most entertaining of the crank pieces that were written by people who believed what they were saying.

For great satire, try Lawrence Gardner's Bloodline of the Holy Grail et seq.

164 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:31:58pm

re: #126 Marvo76

ATF

I've heard some call them "jack-booted thugs".

165 Cathypop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:32:09pm

re: #153 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The fun part was explaining to my boss why he got an email from the dick saying I wasn't being cooperative and counterproductive. Boss joined the call, listened in as he watched what was going on. Boss said he would have a talk with me. He came over and said, "This guy is a dick"


I like your boss.

166 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:32:18pm

re: #122 Render

Now it's down to one.

BBC

I had considered Afghanistan for the original post - but I've since forgotten why I didn't include it...

WE
ARE
DYING,
R

We're they killed over the years or did they just move on to greener pastures like Israel since 1948?

/seriously, who the [expletive deleted] in their right mind, that knows better, wants to live in Afghanistan?

167 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:32:25pm

re: #118 jorline

Mitchell's firm defended a child-slave owning Arab sheik?

Fuck Obama and his whole rotten administration. Truly.

168 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:32:25pm

re: #143 DisturbedEma

When the oceans recede they wash up on shore. . .

Hidden in giant conch shells?

169 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:32:32pm

re: #154 SurferDoc

It's well worth reading. The story is good, complex, and wry. The background information is very interesting. You will remember the book for a long time after you have read it and in a few years you might pick it up again because you won't be able to recall all the intricate twists and turns.

Thanks.

170 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:32:44pm

re: #160 MrSilverDragon

I guess it really depends on how much mass the black hole can begin to absorb into itself, and how quickly it would be able to establish itself. But, considering there's cosmic rays bombarding our planet on a daily basis with more destructive power than what I can imagine the collider can create, I'm not too worried.

Famous last words?

171 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:32:51pm

re: #164 MandyManners

I've heard some call them "jack-booted thugs".

Only until the Jackbooted Thugs of America filed suit for slander.

:-)

172 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:09pm

re: #125 Cicero05

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

About 30 secon...

173 faraway  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:12pm

re: #149 lawhawk

So, for those paying attention to how the porkfest will get passed, the Democrats have attached yet another AMT patch to the bill to ensure that the GOP goes along with it.

I can't recall anyone becoming famous lately. Who was that guy?

174 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:12pm

re: #163 Dianna

Ha!

I collect crank literature. HBHG remains the best-written and most entertaining of the crank pieces that were written by people who believed what they were saying.

Even better than the koran?

175 rightside  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:13pm

re: #147 subsailor68


I need to get more of that.. have a good stash, but we have an outdoor range relatively close, and I enjoy being able to take the teens there to teach them proper firearm handling and shooting.

176 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:16pm

re: #159 Gordon Marock

Well, Dubai was required to attend mandatory child slavery rehab sessions. I hear going cold turkey was hell.

Well, why would they want a cold turkey with all those warm camels around? Have some compassion. Geez.

177 jcbunga  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:24pm

re: #156 newsjunkie_ky

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” —- Karl Marx

“I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” —- Barak Obama

It's happening right before our eyes.

"F*ck all you bastards. I won"--The One

178 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:31pm

re: #170 Nevergiveup

Famous last words?

Heh, if I'm crushed into a man-made singularity, I won't care!

179 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:36pm

re: #164 MandyManners

I guess it depends who they work for, the constitution or the government in power....

180 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:37pm

re: #165 Cathypop

I like your boss.

There's a pretty good comeback there, But I ain't going near it.

181 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:38pm

re: #155 subsailor68

In the intro area, it appears he was a young man killed when he threw himself over a girl when another boy (with a gun) boarded the bus and opened fire.

Pretty sneaky.

182 jorline  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:39pm

re: #134 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And we're not allowed to let monkeys race dogs in this country.

I thought the libs were suppose to be the defenders of human rights?
//

183 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:39pm

re: #150 CIA Reject

That's about $5 more than it's worth IMHO.

I guess Brown is hanging around...

184 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:57pm

re: #146 vagabond trader

That's why we have the 2nd amendment. Funny how that works.

I know. But I also have deep worries about the fascistic nature of modern liberalism and their ability to convince themselves that they need to protect the children or some such other hogwash and use that as an excuse to confiscate.......

185 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:33:57pm

re: #125 Cicero05

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

Uh. None, since we wouldn't know until it happened, but it would be interesting afterwards if it didn't. Obama would join the Pope and ban all nuclear physics henceforth. If we were meant to make black holes we all would.........(here I start doubting if I should continue)...

186 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:34:00pm

Expecting 7, number 8 was a surprise!

Doctors said the mother knew at 23 weeks that she was going to have seven babies. Neither she nor her doctors knew she was carrying eight babies until she delivered Monday night.

[snip]

"They're doing amazingly well," he said of the eight, noting they began feeding today and are kicking their legs.
187 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:34:14pm

re: #155 subsailor68

In the intro area, it appears he was a young man killed when he threw himself over a girl when another boy (with a gun) boarded the bus and opened fire.

Using a tragedy to take away our rights.

188 DistantThunder  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:34:19pm

I don't want my molecules to mix with Democrat molecules if I happen to be vaporized.

189 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:34:24pm

UNITED NATIONS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION LAUNCHES ‘FOOTPRINTS FOR HOPE’
PROJECT TO ENCOURAGE EDUCATION ABOUT HOLOCAUST WORLDWIDE

The materials were produced in partnership with the Holocaust and the United Nations Outreach Programme, Outreach Division, Department of Public Information. The Programme was established by General Assembly resolution 60/7, to encourage education about and remembrance of the Holocaust. Please visit the Programme's website at www.un.org/holocaustremembrance for further information and to download the materials.

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190 jorline  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:34:25pm

re: #167 Kenneth

Mitchell's firm defended a child-slave owning Arab sheik?

Fuck Obama and his whole rotten administration. Truly.

Well put....remember CHANGE?

191 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:34:28pm

re: #159 Gordon Marock

Well, Dubai was required to attend mandatory child slavery rehab sessions. I hear going cold turkey was hell.

They just switched to a different provider

192 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:34:36pm

re: #36 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The hair of a LEGO man.

Mr. Clean

193 Cathypop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:34:42pm

re: #180 Nevergiveup

There's a pretty good comeback there, But I ain't going near it.


I dare you.

194 maddogg  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:34:51pm

re: #23 razorbacker

Here in Northwest Arkansas, and from what I see on the satellite most of Oklahoma, we're in the grip of a pretty severe ice storm. I've got a base coat of about an inch or so of ice on the ground and trees with more coming down. We are forecast for a few inches of snow and sleet to top it off tonight.

Electricity is sporatic, and satellite internet also comes and goes. We're hearing the crash of trees on the hill behind us.

I sure hope that I've got enough wood in the dry to last until the thaw comes.

Its pretty bad East of you too. My relatives tell me my cedars are suffering greatly and there is a pine tree down across my driveway at my place up in the mountains. Limbs snapping sound like a war in the woods. I won't be able to get up there til Friday night. Here in central Arkansas, still just rain, but that can change any minute.

195 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:35:03pm

re: #163 Dianna

Ha!

I collect crank literature. HBHG remains the best-written and most entertaining of the crank pieces that were written by people who believed what they were saying.

For great satire, try Lawrence Gardner's Bloodline of the Holy Grail et seq.

I use to have MUCH more than I have now. Mainly no room, I left a lot when the ex and I split, and I don't have all the expendable funds. The Eco book was purchased with a Borders gift card I got for Xmas.

Then you are well aware that over the last 100 years, a who industry of literature has built up around le' Rennes de Chateau

196 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:35:16pm

re: #181 MandyManners

The "Adolf Hitler Memorial Disarm the Civilians Act" didn't do well in focus groups, so they went another direction.

197 rightside  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:35:52pm

re: #187 MandyManners

Victimzation is the standard liberal ploy to play on peoples emotions.

198 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:35:53pm

re: #160 MrSilverDragon

I guess it really depends on how much mass the black hole can begin to absorb into itself, and how quickly it would....

Oops... pretty quick I see!

199 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:35:59pm

re: #125 Cicero05

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

I know what you are saying..but even as a layman this is a non-issue..
Even if a micro black hole happens the sub atomic particles are flying at each other at close to the speed of light..At collision the particles explode in a violent event and move away from each other at near the speed of light..
You have to have mass nearby for a black hole to feed on..Otherwise all the super massive black holes at the center of Galaxies would simply eat the galaxy..It feeds on nearby mass and that drives the question.

200 USBeast  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:36:00pm

re: #113 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

4 hours on the phone because a jackass can't follow simple fucking directions.

Who needs to instruct a jackass on how to...Oh, never mind.

201 ClosetConservative  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:36:02pm

Quoth the Obama:

"There are Israelis who recognize that it is important to achieve peace. They will be willing to make sacrifices if the time is appropriate and if there is serious partnership on the other side."

That means, I presume, that he believes not ALL Israelis recognize that it's important to make peace. How many more sacrifices must be made by Israel? Tel Aviv? Golan Heights?

And quoting Yahoo News paraphrasing Obama:

"But he suggested that Israel has hard choices to make and that his administration would press harder for it to do so."

What hard choices?! Appeasement doesn't work!

202 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:36:04pm

re: #187 MandyManners

Using a tragedy to take away our rights.

You couldn't be more right! Doesn't it seem like every time we hear "it's for the children" we either a) need to check our wallets or b) need to see what rights they're talking about taking away?

203 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:36:07pm

re: #168 MandyManners

Hidden in giant conch shells?

No remotes ARE giant conch shells. . .eco friendly and green. . .

204 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:36:12pm

re: #155 subsailor68

In the intro area, it appears he was a young man killed when he threw himself over a girl when another boy (with a gun) boarded the bus and opened fire.

Yep, in a city that has, get this, banned handguns.

To leftists everywhere:
It's not the guns, it's the gangs, stupid.

205 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:36:20pm

re: #164 MandyManners

I've heard some call them "jack-booted thugs".

Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms.
Should be a convenience store, not a Federal Agency.
;-)

206 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:37:05pm

re: #204 Honorary Yooper

Yep, in a city that has, get this, banned handguns.

To leftists everywhere:
It's not the guns, it's the gangs, stupid.

Great point Yoop!

207 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:37:08pm

Good afternoon, Lizards!

First of all: Charles, this is for you!

208 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:37:21pm

Mad dog you anywhere near Murphy'sboro/Crater of the moon?

209 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:37:26pm

re: #159 Gordon Marock

Well, Dubai was required to attend mandatory child slavery rehab sessions. I hear going cold turkey was hell.

Yeah, and the patch was just too comfortable. . .

210 Cicero05  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:37:29pm

re: #185 Naso Tang

Uh. None, since we wouldn't know until it happened, but it would be interesting afterwards if it didn't. Obama would join the Pope and ban all nuclear physics henceforth. If we were meant to make black holes we all would.........(here I start doubting if I should continue)...

How do we know a black hole can't establish some kind of equilibrium as it absorbs the matter around it? (Maybe only briefly, but enough for observers to see that this one isn't going away.) There could be time for a warning, for whatever good it would do.

211 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:37:34pm

re: #207 goddessoftheclassroom

Lnk is busted

212 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:37:43pm

re: #171 subsailor68

Only until the Jackbooted Thugs of America filed suit for slander.

:-)

I'm surprised that no WP band hasn't used that for a name.

213 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:37:44pm

I'll be back later. I think I'm going to pull up my ammo site and buy some more stuff.

214 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:37:48pm

re: #125 Cicero05

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

Already happened..... Jan. 20th 2009 at noon, the earth inverted upon itself.

215 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:37:55pm

re: #207 goddessoftheclassroom

Good afternoon, Lizards!

First of all: Charles, this is for you!

... to fix!

216 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:38:15pm

re: #212 MandyManners

I'm surprised that no WP band hasn't used that for a name.

Oh crap! I forgot to trademark it!

:-)

217 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:38:22pm

re: #214 jcm

Already happened..... Jan. 20th 2009 at noon, the earth inverted upon itself.

Brilliant. /applaud.

218 rightside  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:38:28pm

re: #207 goddessoftheclassroom

Is that like giving the finger? LOL

219 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:38:32pm

re: #200 USBeast

Who needs to instruct a jackass on how to...Oh, never mind.

3 hours of it were "Did you do this? Yes. Did you do this? Yes." Jackass had to leave so a new guy joined the call. Started from scratch "Did you do this? ummm....No." Problem fixed in 5 minutes.

220 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:38:40pm

re: #181 MandyManners

Pretty sneaky.

No, all gun grabs are "for the children".

I am getting used to the fact that I will be reliving the Clinton Administration's gun owner slander tactics, except more efficient due to lessons learned.

221 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:38:48pm

re: #184 LGoPs

Yes, they'll try. My bet is on ammo, much easier to control.

222 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:38:57pm

I think that it is sort of appropriate if the HR 45 Bill is named after a guy who threw himself in front of a bullet from a killer.

Since being human shields is about the only defense we will have after they disarm all lawful citizens.

223 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:39:00pm

re: #211 Creeping Eruption

Lnk is busted

Thanks, I'll try again!

224 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:39:02pm

re: #179 Marvo76

I guess it depends who they work for, the constitution or the government in power....

Weren't they involved in Waco and Ruby Ridge?

225 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:39:13pm

re: #174 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Even better than the koran?

The koran is incoherent.

Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln actually can write. They were insanely credulous, but they put together a fun book.

Lincoln, of course, left the group, as he wanted to work on subjects "more susceptible of proof" - though one must (looking over his publications) wonder what he considers proof - and Baigent and Leigh went on to create something of an industry.

However, even they, at some point, got tired of Pierre Plantard's games, and quit. I haven't seen anything by either one in quite a while.

But the pseudo-history they dredged up has founded a thriving industry. They should get royalties, or at least acknowledgment for their initial spadework.

226 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:39:30pm

re: #204 Honorary Yooper

Yep, in a city that has, get this, banned handguns.

To leftists everywhere:
It's not the guns, it's the gangs, stupid.

Gun Free Zones = Disarmed Victim Zone

227 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:39:44pm

re: #184 LGoPs

I know. But I also have deep worries about the fascistic nature of modern liberalism and their ability to convince themselves that they need to protect the children or some such other hogwash and use that as an excuse to confiscate.......

For the chiiilllllllllllllllldrennnnnnnnnnnnnn.

228 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:39:52pm

Reparations is also making a sneak appearance at your local congress.

229 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:40:19pm

re: #221 vagabond trader

Yes, they'll try. My bet is on ammo, much easier to control.

I think there's still a push to force ammunition makers to put a serial number on EACH bullet and casing. Hmm....that won't drive the cost up much, eh?

Gag me.

230 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:40:24pm

re: #224 MandyManners

Weren't they involved in Waco and Ruby Ridge?

ATF: We roast more people before noon than the FBI does all day.

231 rightside  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:40:44pm
232 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:40:58pm

re: #125 Cicero05

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

I wouldn't worry too much. We already have a massive black hole amongst us - Michael Moore - and he hasn't successfully sucked anybody into him yet.
/

233 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:41:25pm

re: #189 SasquatchOnSteroids

UNITED NATIONS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION LAUNCHES ‘FOOTPRINTS FOR HOPE’
PROJECT TO ENCOURAGE EDUCATION ABOUT HOLOCAUST WORLDWIDE

The materials were produced in partnership with the Holocaust and the United Nations Outreach Programme, Outreach Division, Department of Public Information. The Programme was established by General Assembly resolution 60/7, to encourage education about and remembrance of the Holocaust. Please visit the Programme's website at www.un.org/holocaustremembrance for further information and to download the materials.

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Wow.

234 faraway  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:41:34pm

Are we supposed to pray in the direction of the Messiah yet?

235 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:41:37pm

Well all, must go. Please everyone, have a wonderful evening!

236 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:41:38pm

re: #232 LGoPs

I wouldn't worry too much. We already have a massive black hole amongst us - Michael Moore - and he hasn't successfully sucked anybody into him yet.
/

However, he has suckered plenty of people.

237 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:41:48pm

re: #231 rightside

"From my cold, dead hands..."

Well technically speaking his hands are cold and dead? Just saying.

238 Blue Pinky  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:41:48pm

re: #232 LGoPs

I wouldn't worry too much. We already have a massive black hole amongst us - Michael Moore - and he hasn't successfully sucked anybody into him yet.
/

We don't know that for certain. Visual evidence is to the contrary.

239 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:02pm

BBIAM

240 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:04pm

re: #220 OldLineTexan

Not to mention the fairness doctrin which will say the NRA has WAAAAY to much power and needs to grantequal time to HGC for rebutals

241 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:08pm

Okay, I have done enough programming for one day. Taking a serious break.

/my eyes are crossed

242 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:21pm

re: #196 Sifty

The "Adolf Hitler Memorial Disarm the Civilians Act" didn't do well in focus groups, so they went another direction.

Oh, dear me oh my. Thanks for the grin.

243 jorline  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:24pm

The "buzz words" Hope and Change will the albatross around Obama's neck.

244 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:27pm

re: #228 vagabond trader

Reparations is also making a sneak appearance at your local congress.

I fear every crackpot and outrageous plan cooked up by the looney left over the past 50 years will be making an appearance soon. I was hoping Obama would run left, but rule center....it looks like he is turning the wheel of the ship hard to port. I guess he does not see the icebergs over in those waters?

245 rightside  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:45pm

re: #237 Nevergiveup


Sure, but not when he uttered those words.

And, that's how they'll get them from me. Who's still very much alive.

246 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:46pm

re: #232 LGoPs

I wouldn't worry too much. We already have a massive black hole amongst us - Michael Moore - and he hasn't successfully sucked anybody into him yet.
/

Nope, but thousands of Whoopers have died...:( and Sliders...and Big Mac's

247 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:47pm

re: #232 LGoPs

I wouldn't worry too much. We already have a massive black hole amongst us - Michael Moore - and he hasn't successfully sucked anybody into him yet.
/

The Michael Moore Event Horizon... what a scary thought.

248 transient  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:47pm

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

Hell, the next thing you know, people in this country are going to believe in unicorns!

Or that the world is going to end in 2012.

/Hey, isn't that when the supercollider will come back on line?

249 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:47pm

re: #221 vagabond trader

Yes, they'll try. My bet is on ammo, much easier to control.

Taxes, that OSHA attempt a couple of years ago to reclassify ammo has high explosive making storage and sales almost impossible. All kinds of minutia like the mag limits and definitions of "assault" weapons.

250 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:48pm

re: #197 rightside

Victimzation is the standard liberal ploy to play on peoples emotions.

Good propgaganda technique.

251 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:42:52pm

re: #225 Dianna

The koran is incoherent.

Baigent, Leigh and Lincoln actually can write. They were insanely credulous, but they put together a fun book.

Lincoln, of course, left the group, as he wanted to work on subjects "more susceptible of proof" - though one must (looking over his publications) wonder what he considers proof - and Baigent and Leigh went on to create something of an industry.

However, even they, at some point, got tired of Pierre Plantard's games, and quit. I haven't seen anything by either one in quite a while.

But the pseudo-history they dredged up has founded a thriving industry. They should get royalties, or at least acknowledgment for their initial spadework.

I guess you know that Plantard came clean just before he died (2004 I think). All the Dossier papers were plated by him and some friends.

Lincoln was not going to let a good thing go, he just barreled right on, with no care if his material had any truth in it. Hell, he works for the BBC.

And yes, I agree, they write wonderfully. But, as I said in a post above, they didn't come up with much new, this "story" has been around for a couple a hundred years.

Books on the subject go back to the turn of the 1800's.

252 kansas  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:43:05pm

re: #125 Cicero05

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

Image: head_up_ass.jpg

253 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:43:24pm

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

Yes.

I ran across a really fun book, The Tomb of God, which starts with Rennes les Chateau and moves on from there.

A favorite line, not quite verbatim, but close:

"We are now at a standstill in our investigation. We cannot go and dig up the mountain, mostly because it is not our mountain."

254 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:43:33pm

re: #202 subsailor68

You couldn't be more right! Doesn't it seem like every time we hear "it's for the children" we either a) need to check our wallets or b) need to see what rights they're talking about taking away?

Or, both.

255 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:43:42pm

re: #244 Desert Dog

Sorry that hope thing didn't work out. He never fooled me, not for one second.

256 maddogg  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:43:43pm

re: #208 Marvo76

Mad dog you anywhere near Murphy'sboro/Crater of the moon?

No, not really. I'm in Little Rock, and my other place in near Leslie, Ark.
Where is Crater of the moon? Murphy'sboro, Ill.?

257 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:43:58pm

re: #237 Nevergiveup

Charlton Heston is not dead. He sleeps next to Arthur, John Wayne, and Ronald Reagan in a granite cave, awaiting a time when all hope seems lost.

I expect them around May.

258 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:44:07pm

re: #85 Kosh's Shadow


No, they'll still blame the Jews, because they aren't dying like good Jews are supposed to.

This is where you see the kind of idiocy from Israel that has brought it to this sorry state.

Israel knows that Abbas was silently cheering them on in Gaza. Abbas knows that Hamas are his mortal enemy.

But when Abbas spouts this vitriol Israel gives him a pass because he is their negotiating "partner". A pass that later comes back to bite them because it just adds to the blame heaped upon them.

If I were the Israeli Government I would allow none of this to pass unanswered. I would rip Abbas in the response.

259 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:44:14pm

re: #183 OldLineTexan

I guess Brown is hanging around...

Like a bad case of hemorrhoids...

260 Gordon Marock  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:44:15pm

re: #125 Cicero05

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

I did see a movie once called "Black Hole, White Pole." However, there was not much science in it.

261 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:44:23pm

re: #129 IslandLibertarian

I've heard a rumor that the Unicorns to be sent to Hawaii will be re-routed to DOT Honolulu and be used to pull the "Light Rail" trains to save on energy.
Eh', lucky you live da kine!

Doesn't everything get "re-routed" to Honolulu? Like our tax dollars and all the fines we pay via traffic tickets etc.

262 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:44:50pm

bbiab

263 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:44:52pm

re: #244 Desert Dog

I fear every crackpot and outrageous plan cooked up by the looney left over the past 50 years will be making an appearance soon. I was hoping Obama would run left, but rule center....it looks like he is turning the wheel of the ship hard to port. I guess he does not see the icebergs over in those waters?

If we start down that road, then I deserve raparations from:

* the Indian nations for killing some of my ancestors.
* the British for killing my ancestors.
* the Scots and Irish for throwing my ancestors out of their countries.
* the Holy Roman Empire just because it's a horrible name for a country.

And I could go on and on. What's to stop me?

264 Eowyn2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:45:01pm

re: #6 Cathypop

Has anyone received their unicorn? I specificaly asked for a blue one.


way down on the thread but I always liked the My Little Pony Unicorns. Especially the one with stars on her butt with red and gold hair. I think they were stars on her butt. Its been a long time since my daughter was so young.

265 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:45:19pm

re: #231 rightside

"From my cold, dead hands..."

Nice picture.. I imagine the real Moses in Heaven is pretty upset right now..
Everybody is asking HIM ( this dang actor ) for an autograph all day long.LOL

266 kansas  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:45:28pm

I haven't gotten any money from Obama/Pelosi yet? Any ideas on when?

267 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:45:44pm

re: #261 Maui Girl

Doesn't everything get "re-routed" to Honolulu? Like our tax dollars and all the fines we pay via traffic tickets etc.

Sounds like the great big black hole on the shores of Lake Michigan we call "Chicago". Its power is so strong, even the governor lives there.

268 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:45:46pm

Twinkie's climb out of bankruptcy without a bailout!

Where was your government when sweet sugary snacks needed help?

269 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:45:49pm

re: #245 rightside

Sure, but not when he uttered those words.

And, that's how they'll get them from me. Who's still very much alive.

OK I'll buy that.

270 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:46:17pm

re: #210 Cicero05

How do we know a black hole can't establish some kind of equilibrium as it absorbs the matter around it? (Maybe only briefly, but enough for observers to see that this one isn't going away.) There could be time for a warning, for whatever good it would do.

I think there was a movie, or at least a sci fi book about that.

In any case, for that scenario, the black hole is smaller than atom in the beginning, and adding quarks and electrons probably won't happen too fast initially, but the sucker does have mass and is in the earth's gravity well, so the chances are that it will just fall through the earths center gobbling up atoms, and I believe the calculations would give it about 30 minutes to do that. Then when emerging on the other side, due to the earth's rotation etc it would likely just zip off to space and starve to death soon.

Anyway that is what I'll put in my book when I write it, and I'll ignore that cosmic rays that hit us every millisecond have higher energies than the LHC and all that implies.

271 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:46:18pm

re: #260 Gordon Marock

I did see a movie once called "Black Hole, White Pole." However, there was not much science in it.

Bow-wow wakka-chikka.

272 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:46:20pm

re: #260 Gordon Marock

I did see a movie once called "Black Hole, White Pole." However, there was not much science in it.

It was however quite faithful to the book.

273 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:46:36pm

re: #231 rightside

"From my cold, dead hands..."

Get your damn dirty paws off of my wallet, you stinking lib.

274 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:46:43pm

re: #253 Dianna

Yes.

I ran across a really fun book, The Tomb of God, which starts with Rennes les Chateau and moves on from there.

A favorite line, not quite verbatim, but close:

"We are now at a standstill in our investigation. We cannot go and dig up the mountain, mostly because it is not our mountain."

LOL.

I actually have a folder on my computer with an attempt at a novel, called "The House of Crozat" which deals with the bloodline, but coming to America, down the east coast, among the Cajuns.

SInce my whole moms side of the family is from LA., right back to the 1650's, I thought it would fun to weave the story into the south.

275 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:46:47pm

re: #244 Desert Dog

I fear every crackpot and outrageous plan cooked up by the looney left over the past 50 years will be making an appearance soon. I was hoping Obama would run left, but rule center....it looks like he is turning the wheel of the ship hard to port. I guess he does not see the icebergs over in those waters?

He told the newspaper in Honolulu last summer that he was for reparations, so you could see this one coming.

I never heard anything about the networks picking the story up; I don't think it would have gone over very well with a lot of voters.

Shocking, I know.

276 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:46:51pm

re: #268 jcm

Twinkie's climb out of bankruptcy without a bailout!

Where was your government when sweet sugary snacks needed help?

Michael Moore bailed them out...:)

277 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:46:59pm

re: #228 vagabond trader

Reparations is also making a sneak appearance at your local congress.

I won't pay.

278 Eowyn2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:47:00pm

re: #207 goddessoftheclassroom

good afternoon ms goddess

279 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:47:13pm

re: #202 subsailor68

You couldn't be more right! Doesn't it seem like every time we hear "it's for the children" we either a) need to check our wallets or b) need to see what rights they're talking about taking away?

That is precisely the way it will start....no sarcasm or exaggeration at all.
We need to be vigilant......
And to indulge my cynicism a bit, I wouldn't put it past the libtards to manufacture a tragedy to support their goal.
Their fantasizing about 9-11 being an inside job provides a window into their souls. I am convinced that elements among them would feel fully justified manufacturing a tragedy in support of their self anointed goal of a violence free society. It'd just be a few broken eggs in their minds.....
/

280 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:47:17pm

re: #264 Eowyn2

way down on the thread but I always liked the My Little Pony Unicorns. Especially the one with stars on her butt with red and gold hair. I think they were stars on her butt. Its been a long time since my daughter was so young.

Man, I stepped on lots of those in the dark, back when. Still have a castle and a plastic tub full somewhere.

281 Blue Pinky  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:47:20pm

re: #258 Opinionated

This is where you see the kind of idiocy from Israel that has brought it to this sorry state.

Israel knows that Abbas was silently cheering them on in Gaza. Abbas knows that Hamas are his mortal enemy.

But when Abbas spouts this vitriol Israel gives him a pass because he is their negotiating "partner". A pass that later comes back to bite them because it just adds to the blame heaped upon them.

If I were the Israeli Government I would allow none of this to pass unanswered. I would rip Abbas in the response.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Until my enemy is gone. Then my friend is my enemy once again.

282 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:47:25pm

re: #273 SasquatchOnSteroids

Get your damn dirty paws off of my wallet, you stinking lib.

Chuck on election day....

283 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:47:27pm

re: #263 vxbush

If we start down that road, then I deserve raparations from:

* the Indian nations for killing some of my ancestors.
* the British for killing my ancestors.
* the Scots and Irish for throwing my ancestors out of their countries.
* the Holy Roman Empire just because it's a horrible name for a country.

And I could go on and on. What's to stop me?

Well, it sounds like you are white. And, as you know, Mr. White Devil, you are responsible for all this mess...so, no money for you (or skilled government jobs either!)

284 Cathypop  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:47:39pm

re: #273 SasquatchOnSteroids

Get your damn dirty paws off of my wallet, you stinking lib.


That would be a great bumper sticker.

285 Cicero05  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:47:43pm

re: #252 kansas

[Link: www.lifeisajoke.com...]

Umm, is that supposed to be me?

(I haven't looked like that in a long time.)

286 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:47:51pm

re: #277 Dianna

I won't pay.

Not paying a guilt tax either.

287 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:47:56pm

re: #268 jcm

Twinkie's climb out of bankruptcy without a bailout!

Where was your government when sweet sugary snacks needed help?

They must've gotten their unicorns.

288 solomonpanting  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:48:00pm
"The drone hit him," said his cousin, Abed Bedawi, 21, referring to Israel's unmanned surveillance planes, often seen in Gaza's skies. "He was laying a bomb for a tank when the drone fired a missile at him."

After offensive, posters of dead sell well in Gaza

289 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:48:20pm

re: #282 jcm

Yes !

290 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:48:25pm

re: #256 maddogg
South western part of Ark, Crater of the moon is a stae park part diamond mine

291 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:48:25pm

re: #228 vagabond trader

Reparations is also making a sneak appearance at your local congress.

Then can I ask for a refund due to the fact that mine already paid in blood?

292 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:48:29pm

re: #283 Desert Dog

Well, it sounds like you are white. And, as you know, Mr. White Devil, you are responsible for all this mess...so, no money for you (or skilled government jobs either!)

But I'm a FEMALE. So I deserve WYMYN'S reparations.

/must I

293 SurferDoc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:48:35pm

re: #260 Gordon Marock

I did see a movie once called "Black Hole, White Pole." However, there was not much science in it.

Missed that one but I saw the reviews. It got two thumbs waaay up!

294 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:48:41pm

re: #268 jcm

Twinkie's climb out of bankruptcy without a bailout!

Where was your government when sweet sugary snacks needed help?

When I was a kid, Continental Bakeries made Wonder Bread/Twinkies/Snowballs/etc.
I know that because my dad worked there for 12 years. (Sioux City, Iowa division. He poured the white stuff in the cream filled cupcakes)

Was that a name change, a merger, buyout, what?

295 maddogg  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:49:13pm

re: #290 Marvo76

South western part of Ark, Crater of the moon is a stae park part diamond mine


You mean Crater of Diamonds?

296 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:49:14pm

re: #125 Cicero05

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

Given that the event horizon of a black hole with a mass measuring that of a few subatomic particles is likely to be vanishingly small, you are probably never going to hear anything about it.

297 MacDuff  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:49:27pm

re: #166 Killian Bundy

We're they killed over the years or did they just move on to greener pastures like Israel since 1948?

/seriously, who the [expletive deleted] in their right mind, that knows better, wants to live in Afghanistan?

You know, I remember when I was a kid "Afghanistan" was short for the absolute ends of the Earth. I was amazed when I found out later that it was actually a reall place.

298 Moonbat Serenade  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:49:27pm

re: #6 Cathypop

I got 2, a blue one and a pink one...they must have sent me yours by mistake. Please come and get it. My backyard is full of rainbows and skittles, the neighbors are complaining the soft moonbeams and Unicorn nickers are keeping them awake at night and suddenly there are gentle woodland creatures everywhere. I'm going broke buying Unicorn Chow, and the horn on one of them says "Made in China".

This is NOT the change the instruction manual that came with them said I should expect.

On the upside, the woodland creatures are pretty tasty.

299 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:49:32pm

re: #274 Walter L. Newton

LOL.

I actually have a folder on my computer with an attempt at a novel, called "The House of Crozat" which deals with the bloodline, but coming to America, down the east coast, among the Cajuns.

SInce my whole moms side of the family is from LA., right back to the 1650's, I thought it would fun to weave the story into the south.

I request an advance copy when you're done. Or permision to print one. Either will do.

300 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:49:51pm

re: #294 jwb7605

When I was a kid, Continental Bakeries made Wonder Bread/Twinkies/Snowballs/etc.
I know that because my dad worked there for 12 years. (Sioux City, Iowa division. He poured the white stuff in the cream filled cupcakes)

Was that a name change, a merger, buyout, what?

The article listed Hostess as the maker of the snacks. I just remember exactly where they were in the general store where I would visit coming home from school. Top shelf, right at the end of the row....next to the Hostess Chocolate Cup Cakes. Of course.

301 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:50:13pm

re: #292 vxbush

But I'm a FEMALE. So I deserve WYMYN'S reparations.

/must I

ahhh, well if you are a woman, that is different! You are still white though, so we will deduct 50% of your cut because of that. But, since you were kept down by the white man all these years, you are entitled to compensation as well.

302 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:50:23pm

re: #298 Moonbat Serenade

I got 2, a blue one and a pink one...they must have sent me yours by mistake. Please come and get it. My backyard is full of rainbows and skittles, the neighbors are complaining the soft moonbeams and Unicorn nickers are keeping them awake at night and suddenly there are gentle woodland creatures everywhere. I'm going broke buying Unicorn Chow, and the horn on one of them says "Made in China".

This is NOT the change the instruction manual that came with them said I should expect.

On the upside, the woodland creatures are pretty tasty.

. . .and Unicorns come with their own roasting spit.

303 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:50:40pm

re: #257 Sifty

re: #237 Nevergiveup

Charlton Heston is not dead. He sleeps next to Arthur, John Wayne, and Ronald Reagan in a granite cave, awaiting a time when all hope seems lost.

I expect them around May.

Well, Adm. Nelson hasn't woken up to save England yet so I hope these guys have better timing...

304 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:50:45pm

re: #294 jwb7605

Hey, (left over from last thread), I'm not a BIG white man, not big anymore. That photo is 8 years old. I've lost 160 pounds in the last 2 years.

305 Irish Rose  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:50:49pm
306 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:50:57pm

re: #277 Dianna

Same here.

307 Gordon Marock  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:01pm

re: #271 MrSilverDragon

Bow-wow wakka-chikka.

Ah, you've seen it too!

308 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:03pm

re: #298 Moonbat Serenade

I got 2, a blue one and a pink one...they must have sent me yours by mistake. Please come and get it. My backyard is full of rainbows and skittles, the neighbors are complaining the soft moonbeams and Unicorn nickers are keeping them awake at night and suddenly there are gentle woodland creatures everywhere. I'm going broke buying Unicorn Chow, and the horn on one of them says "Made in China".

This is NOT the change the instruction manual that came with them said I should expect.

On the upside, the woodland creatures are pretty tasty.

You're so lucky. I got the Woodland Critters from South Park.

NSFW
Highly offensive
Freakin' hilarious

309 abaleh  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:06pm

re: #92 Kenneth

Actually only one is left, the other died of natural causesaccording to Wikipedia.

310 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:08pm

Laser Avenger Shoots Down UAV

Gotta get me one of those!

311 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:22pm

re: #304 Walter L. Newton

Hey, (left over from last thread), I'm not a BIG white man, not big anymore. That photo is 8 years old. I've lost 160 pounds in the last 2 years.

You weighed 560 lbs?

312 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:35pm

re: #251 Walter L. Newton

Oh, yes, I know all about Plantard; are you sure, though, that Lincoln is the one you mean? I was pretty sure it Baigent?

Yes, it's an old idea. They actually cite the 19th century German theologians in HBHG. It surprised me that they could do that much digging - and the compilation of the list of Templar Grand Masters was also good work, btw - and not realize that the dossiers were fake.

313 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:36pm

Candy Mountain, Charlie!

314 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:38pm

re: #241 vxbush

Okay, I have done enough programming for one day. Taking a serious break.

/my eyes are crossed

I hear that Sis...Still having intermittent connectivity issues with the workers and Listeners in Oracle R12..It is random happening on a small scale globally and is maddening...I can't duplicate the issue yet and Oracle Metalink is so vague it might as well not even exist. Yea..hey geniuses..we know it might be either the Network or the DataBase. Thank you for that...

315 Eowyn2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:38pm

re: #228 vagabond trader

Reparations is also making a sneak appearance at your local congress.


really? So, like, I could get reparations from the Norwegian and Swedish Americans for the raiding they did along the Irish coast which caused the British to enslave the peasantry in central Ireland, which in turn must have led to one or another of the potato famines which is why my forefathers and mammas came to America and broke the bonds of serfdom.
It was worse for daddy's peeps, they were thralls to the norskies even though they were norskies themselves.

316 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:41pm

re: #301 Desert Dog

ahhh, well if you are a woman, that is different! You are still white though, so we will deduct 50% of your cut because of that. But, since you were kept down by the white man all these years, you are entitled to compensation as well.

In theory, there is Indian blood in the family, so I should get to play both sides of the fence. Take money for not living on the reservation, and take money for my personal reparations fund.

Of course, the value of said fund in today's market would be 50 cents, but whose counting.

317 Blue Pinky  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:51:47pm

re: #288 solomonpanting

After offensive, posters of dead sell well in Gaza

Terrible headline. It should read "Offensive posters of dead sell well in Gaza".
I'd still be wondering why they had to put their well up for sale, but it's still better.

318 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:52:03pm

re: #298 Moonbat Serenade

I got 2, a blue one and a pink one...they must have sent me yours by mistake. Please come and get it. My backyard is full of rainbows and skittles, the neighbors are complaining the soft moonbeams and Unicorn nickers are keeping them awake at night and suddenly there are gentle woodland creatures everywhere. I'm going broke buying Unicorn Chow, and the horn on one of them says "Made in China".

This is NOT the change the instruction manual that came with them said I should expect.

On the upside, the woodland creatures are pretty tasty.

As long as they are not these cute woodland critters.

319 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:52:11pm

re: #237 Nevergiveup

Well technically speaking his hands are cold and dead? Just saying.

Wondering what kind of response the crowd at the Oscars will give when Charlton appears in the "I see dead people" segment at the awards ceremony.

320 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:52:16pm

re: #305 Irish Rose

Report: Paul McCartney to Wed for Third Time

Godspeed, sir.

One word for you Sir Paul - PRE-NUP, BABY

321 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:52:17pm

re: #297 MacDuff

You know, I remember when I was a kid "Afghanistan" was short for the absolute ends of the Earth. I was amazed when I found out later that it was actually a reall place.

We used "Bumfuck, Egypt".

I am pretty sure that's a real place, too.

/

322 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:52:53pm

re: #308 OldLineTexan

You're so lucky. I got the Woodland Critters from South Park.

NSFW
Highly offensive
Freakin' hilarious

Second best SP episode ever!

323 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:52:54pm

re: #274 Walter L. Newton

LOL.

I actually have a folder on my computer with an attempt at a novel, called "The House of Crozat" which deals with the bloodline, but coming to America, down the east coast, among the Cajuns.

SInce my whole moms side of the family is from LA., right back to the 1650's, I thought it would fun to weave the story into the south.

Whoa - did you ever run across a comic series called The Preacher? There's a whole sub-plot with that idea.

324 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:53:12pm

re: #314 HoosierHoops

I hear that Sis...Still having intermittent connectivity issues with the workers and Listeners in Oracle R12..It is random happening on a small scale globally and is maddening...I can't duplicate the issue yet and Oracle Metalink is so vague it might as well not even exist. Yea..hey geniuses..we know it might be either the Network or the DataBase. Thank you for that...

LOL! I'm just doing a little project, but it's in the update language system, and they reworked a bunch of commands. I'm constantly having to refer to the reference guide to get the operators and options right. Gah.

325 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:53:18pm

re: #299 OldLineTexan

I request an advance copy when you're done. Or permision to print one. Either will do.

It's never gonna get finished. I can write a 75 page play in a couple of weeks. Novel, I just do get. I've tried before, I'm just not into the form.

I just see my stories in a different way, on stage, I get bored trying to explain everything in long paragraphs, I'd rather have the ensemble effort of actors, designers, directors etal tell the story.

326 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:53:24pm

Where's my Fickin Unicorn ? 'Dear Leader' has now held office for a week and still no sign of rainbows and lollipops-unless you're Hamas or Iran...

We slid into this abyss quickly and of our own free will (well-54% worht of our own free will). Hopenchange Babee !

327 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:53:24pm

Free unicorns can't be trusted.Shuuuuuunnnnn

328 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:53:33pm

re: #270 Naso Tang

I am not to worried that they can create something with enough mass to overcome atomic structures around it enough to create the black hole. They are working with such small amounts of matter and the compression to make it reach that state of absolute gravity, that it would be near immpossible in my book...

329 bulwrk  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:53:45pm

re: #321 OldLineTexan

We used "Bumfuck, Egypt".

I am pretty sure that's a real place, too.

/

2 Dot Montana was a popular one.

330 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:53:47pm

re: #316 vxbush

In theory, there is Indian blood in the family, so I should get to play both sides of the fence. Take money for not living on the reservation, and take money for my personal reparations fund.

Of course, the value of said fund in today's market would be 50 cents, but whose counting.

you will have to pay yourself reparations then.....

Me, I am screwed.....Norwegian, German, Dutch and Irish here....

331 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:53:49pm
332 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:53:50pm

re: #320 Desert Dog

that's 3 words

333 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:54:03pm
334 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:54:07pm

re: #308 OldLineTexan

You're so lucky. I got the Woodland Critters from South Park.

NSFW
Highly offensive
Freakin' hilarious

Did you see the Imaginationland episode where they make an appearance?

335 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:54:20pm

re: #295 maddogg
I thought they called it crater of the moon, but yes diamonds are found there.

336 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:54:32pm

re: #334 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Did you see the Imaginationland episode where they make an appearance?

They rape Kurt Russell.

337 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:54:37pm

re: #300 vxbush

The article listed Hostess as the maker of the snacks. I just remember exactly where they were in the general store where I would visit coming home from school. Top shelf, right at the end of the row....next to the Hostess Chocolate Cup Cakes. Of course.

"Hostess" was/is the name brand for the cupcakes, twinkies, etc.
"Wonder Bread" was/is the name brand for the breads.
Both were divisions of the Continental Baking Company.

In the midwest, their main rival was "Old Home".
When I was about 8, the two companies got into a health war. Wonder Bread helped build strong bodies 8 ways, on their television commercial.

Old Home, of course, started producing commercials about building healthy bodies 9 ways.

Then Wonder Bread went to 10 ways, Old Home to 11, and Wonder Bread to 12 ways.

At that point, the war ended. My dad thought it was a joke.

338 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:54:37pm

re: #331 goddessoftheclassroom

ROFLMAO!

339 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:55:18pm

re: #331 goddessoftheclassroom

Ok, this should work: Charles, this one's for you!

Aiyee! Don't let that one near the refrigerator.

340 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:55:24pm

re: #304 Walter L. Newton

Hey, (left over from last thread), I'm not a BIG white man, not big anymore. That photo is 8 years old. I've lost 160 pounds in the last 2 years.

Another ten and you'll have lost what I weigh (at 5' 11")

341 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:55:36pm

re: #325 Walter L. Newton

OK, fair enough! I can't write a decent grocery list, so all authors are well past my talents.

342 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:55:37pm

re: #328 Marvo76

Not impossible in theory, but as the article states, not likely to exist for long without deyaing (evaporating as they say).

343 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:55:53pm

re: #305 Irish Rose

uhm how about "better luck this time?"

344 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:56:11pm

re: #336 Alouette

They rape Kurt Russell.

Off-screen, thankfully.

They also do in Strawberry Shortcake or Holly Hobbie, not sure which.

345 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:56:12pm

re: #323 Dianna

Whoa - did you ever run across a comic series called The Preacher? There's a whole sub-plot with that idea.

Nope, sick minds think alike I guess.

On the Plantard thing, yes he confessed, but maybe you are right, I don't quite remember which ones kept it up and which ones didn't. I know all along they all claimed that even if they didn't have everything right, it was right enough.

What would you expect them to say.

346 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:56:17pm

my typing sucks.

347 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:56:21pm

re: #315 Eowyn2

really? So, like, I could get reparations from the Norwegian and Swedish Americans for the raiding they did along the Irish coast which caused the British to enslave the peasantry in central Ireland, which in turn must have led to one or another of the potato famines which is why my forefathers and mammas came to America and broke the bonds of serfdom.
It was worse for daddy's peeps, they were thralls to the norskies even though they were norskies themselves.

Yipeee! I can't wait for the reparations I'm gonna get from the Mongols and Tatars that enslaved my ancestors......
Think I'll buy some guns and ammo with the loot........and of course feed for my unicorn.
Just what the hell do unicorns eat anyway....?
/

348 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:56:44pm

re: #305 Irish Rose

Report: Paul McCartney to Wed for Third Time

Godspeed, sir.

/dude, enforceable prenuptial agreement, listen to your lawyers this time!

349 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:56:49pm

re: #300 vxbush

The article listed Hostess as the maker of the snacks. I just remember exactly where they were in the general store where I would visit coming home from school. Top shelf, right at the end of the row....next to the Hostess Chocolate Cup Cakes. Of course.

Ding Dongs were my favorite. Bought them by the boxful. Ate 'em by the boxful, too!

350 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:56:55pm

re: #343 Marvo76

uhm how about "better luck this time?"

here's three words....
DON'T DO IT!

351 transient  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:56:59pm

re: #296 CyanSnowHawk

Given that the event horizon of a black hole with a mass measuring that of a few subatomic particles is likely to be vanishingly small, you are probably never going to hear anything about it.

I'm hoping for a Quantum Singularity Drive, but if I can't have that, can we at least send a small singularity to eat Mecca and Tehran?

352 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:57:10pm

re: #297 MacDuff

You know, I remember when I was a kid "Afghanistan" was short for the absolute ends of the Earth. I was amazed when I found out later that it was actually a reall place.

I had my brother convinced that "Gardenia" was the worst swear word ever uttered for a period of about 6 months.

353 maddogg  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:57:14pm

re: #335 Marvo76

I thought they called it crater of the moon, but yes diamonds are found there.

I'm about 90 munites up I-30 from there. Never been to Murphysboro, AR. Come to think of it, I've never dug diamonds either. They are just rocks that make excellent abrasive to me:)

354 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:57:38pm

re: #347 LGoPs

Unicorns must live on promises and bullshit, because that's all Obama has laying around.

355 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:57:55pm

re: #305 Irish Rose

Report: Paul McCartney to Wed for Third Time

Godspeed, sir.

Some men never learn....

356 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:58:08pm

re: #337 jwb7605

"Hostess" was/is the name brand for the cupcakes, twinkies, etc.
"Wonder Bread" was/is the name brand for the breads.
Both were divisions of the Continental Baking Company.

In the midwest, their main rival was "Old Home".
When I was about 8, the two companies got into a health war. Wonder Bread helped build strong bodies 8 ways, on their television commercial.

Old Home, of course, started producing commercials about building healthy bodies 9 ways.

Then Wonder Bread went to 10 ways, Old Home to 11, and Wonder Bread to 12 ways.

At that point, the war ended. My dad thought it was a joke.

At one point, ITT owned Continental Bakery, and Knickerbocker Toys, the makers of Raggedy Ann.

357 Blue Pinky  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:58:17pm

re: #342 Naso Tang

Not impossible in theory, but as the article states, not likely to exist for long without deyaing (evaporating as they say).

Ooops, for a second I thought you were talking about McCartney's third wife.

358 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:58:21pm

I kid you not, our receptionist just called me to say that there's a package for me from a Mr. Richard (i.e. Dick) Schlong.

359 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:58:42pm

re: #355 Maui Girl

Some men never learn....

how profound....I'm stealing that

360 Render  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:58:52pm

re: #166 Killian Bundy

Both. The second to last died of natural causes...

IN
THEORY,
R

361 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:58:59pm

re: #337 jwb7605

"Hostess" was/is the name brand for the cupcakes, twinkies, etc.
"Wonder Bread" was/is the name brand for the breads.
Both were divisions of the Continental Baking Company.

In the midwest, their main rival was "Old Home".
When I was about 8, the two companies got into a health war. Wonder Bread helped build strong bodies 8 ways, on their television commercial.

Old Home, of course, started producing commercials about building healthy bodies 9 ways.

Then Wonder Bread went to 10 ways, Old Home to 11, and Wonder Bread to 12 ways.

At that point, the war ended. My dad thought it was a joke.

Back then, Roman Meal bread was affordable and wonderful.

362 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:59:06pm

re: #358 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I kid you not, our receptionist just called me to say that there's a package for me from a Mr. Richard (i.e. Dick) Schlong.

That Nancy Pelosi, what a joker. Always with the kidding!

363 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:59:18pm

re: #355 Maui Girl

Someone needs to let Sir Paul know that it's OK to sleep with girls now without marrying them first.

I thought the Beatles helped bring in this whole "free love" thing. Apparently Paul was too stoned to notice.

364 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:59:20pm

re: #355 Maui Girl

Some men never learn....

If we did, we wouldn't be men?

365 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:59:26pm

re: #330 Desert Dog

you will have to pay yourself reparations then.....

Me, I am screwed.....Norwegian, German, Dutch and Irish here....

You think you are screwed? I'm Adopted..Not sure what I am but Obama is just thanking his lucky stars that his Nirth Certificate doesn't look like mine..
There would have been 500 cases before SCOTUS right now..and Charles going on LGF's ' Well maybe we should look into this crap'
LOL

366 JacksonTn  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:59:27pm

Protest against Bill Ayers tomorrow:

Event theme: Simple Justice…Not Social Justice
When: Wednesday January 28, 2009 6:00pm-8:30pm
Time: Informational actions on campus all day long, rally starting at 6pm, concluding with a march to St. Mary’s Soda Center, where Ayers is scheduled to speak at 7:30pm.

Location:
St. Mary’s College, Moraga
1928 Saint Mary's Road
Moraga, CA 94556

[Link: www.pipelinenews.org...]

367 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:59:33pm

re: #361 vxbush

Back then, Roman Meal bread was affordable and wonderful.

I still buy it. Old habits...

368 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:59:43pm

re: #358 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I kid you not, our receptionist just called me to say that there's a package for me from a Mr. Richard (i.e. Dick) Schlong.

That would get photocopied and put up on the kitchen bulletin board at my office.

369 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:59:47pm

re: #358 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yes, it's your 2009 tax bill...giftwrapped.

370 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:59:50pm

re: #341 OldLineTexan

Writing is this weird obsession. Most writers actually hide from their work until the muse whips them to the keyboard again.

371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:00:16pm

re: #340 jwb7605

Another ten and you'll have lost what I weigh (at 5' 11")

170lbs. Hope you're anchored down in a stiff wind.

372 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:00:20pm

re: #363 Sifty

Someone needs to let Sir Paul know that it's OK to sleep with girls now without marrying them first.

I thought the Beatles helped bring in this whole "free love" thing. Apparently Paul was too stoned to notice.

Maybe but he wasn't to stoned NOT to marry Yoko!

373 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:00:21pm

re: #356 MandyManners

At one point, ITT owned Continental Bakery, and Knickerbocker Toys, the makers of Raggedy Ann.

You're leaving out sponsorship of The Howdy Doody show!
-- NOW I get the connection, and why Wonder Bread was on the Howdy Doody show commercials!

374 SurferDoc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:00:26pm

"Dear Sir Paul:

It may not have occurred to you but you do not have to marry every woman you have sex with regularly.

Your friend, SurferDoc"

375 razorbacker  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:00:42pm

re: #290 Marvo76

South western part of Ark, Crater of the moon is a stae park part diamond mine

Errr, you mean the only state park diamond mine.

376 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:01:08pm

re: #358 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I kid you not, our receptionist just called me to say that there's a package for me from a Mr. Richard (i.e. Dick) Schlong.

It's from the IRS, apparently, you will have to PAY for part of that trillion dollar giveaway

377 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:01:10pm

re: #324 vxbush

LOL! I'm just doing a little project, but it's in the update language system, and they reworked a bunch of commands. I'm constantly having to refer to the reference guide to get the operators and options right. Gah.

running a lot of scripts also?

378 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:01:14pm

re: #365 HoosierHoops

You think you are screwed? I'm Adopted..Not sure what I am but Obama is just thanking his lucky stars that his Nirth Certificate doesn't look like mine..
There would have been 500 cases before SCOTUS right now..and Charles going on LGF's ' Well maybe we should look into this crap'
LOL

{Hoooosier Daddy}

My step-father is adopted. We think he's Scottish/Irish. But who the heck knows?

379 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:01:27pm

Ah, a open thread.

COOKBOOK UPDATE:
I just spoke with FlakMusic, and the files are ready to be uploaded to LULU.com

I think it would behoove me to order a copy of the book first, BEFORE posting the "sale" link, to be sure that there are no glitches in the printing of the book. Wouldn't it be awful if everyone ordered and received a book with half the recipes missing?

Please be on the lookout for the "ready for sale" announcement and link sometime between mid-February to end of February.

The announcement will be posted here, as well as in LGF open threads over the course of several days to make sure people see it.

Ya'll are gonna love it!

And, registered user FlakMusic has done the heavy lifting on this, putting into a nice format, converting the files to PDF and uploading them according to the lulu.com requirements - a special thank you to him.

And a special thank you to Jaunte for the cover art, when you see it, you will be in awe.

380 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:01:29pm

re: #371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

170lbs. Hope you're anchored down in a stiff wind.

You could just turn to face him when you have to set the ghost of the broccoli and cabbage soup free...

/

381 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:01:42pm

re: #371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

170lbs. Hope you're anchored down in a stiff wind.

No, I'm about 185 right now, since I stopped smoking in Aug. I went up a bit. But two and a half years ago I was about 385 or so.

382 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:01:56pm

re: #344 OldLineTexan

Off-screen, thankfully.

They also do in Strawberry Shortcake or Holly Hobbie, not sure which.

Strawberry Shortcake.

383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:02:19pm

re: #366 JacksonTn

What does Ayers speak about? Who'd want to hear it?

I'd go, just to be a smart ass and turn my chair facing the back wall. He'd probably cry.

384 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:02:21pm

re: #345 Walter L. Newton

Considering the money they made? Please!

Actually, they did a couple books that were worthwhile. Their book on the Dead Sea Scrolls can be directly credited with stirring the public up to pressure their governments into pushing the publication of the photographs (paid for by Ms. Bechtel at the time of purchase) and then the full release of all the material.

385 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:02:37pm

re: #305 Irish Rose

Report: Paul McCartney to Wed for Third Time

Godspeed, sir.

What's wrong with that?
I'd like to know,
'Cause here I go
Again

386 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:02:45pm
387 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:02:51pm

re: #372 Nevergiveup

yoko and woody allen.

Two humans I'll never get.

388 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:02:56pm

re: #379 reine.de.tout

I can't wait!

389 Irish Rose  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:03:01pm

re: #381 Walter L. Newton

No, I'm about 185 right now, since I stopped smoking in Aug. I went up a bit. But two and a half years ago I was about 385 or so.

High five on that, Walter!

390 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:03:26pm

re: #367 OldLineTexan

I still buy it. Old habits...


melts in your mouth! not in your hand!
dont even need to chew that stuff...my favorite bread in ABQ is now 4$...

391 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:03:40pm

Woodland creatures?

/Happy Tree Friends

392 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:04:14pm

re: #381 Walter L. Newton

Was talking to the skinny Mfer over at 340. It's not always about you.
/

393 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:04:32pm

re: #118 jorline
From your link:

A February 2005 report on the U.S. State Department Web site says that in the United Arab Emirates, which includes Dubai, “trafficking of young, noncitizen boys employed as camel jockeys continued to be a serious problem, although the Government has pledged to eliminate this practice for boys under the age of 15.” The report cited an estimate by the Ansar Burney Welfare Trust International, a Pakistan-based civil rights group, that 5,000 boys were working as camel jockeys.

The U.A.E. introduced the use of robots as riders on the camels and two years ago set up an $8 million fund to compensate former child jockeys. Human rights organizations have condemned the use of children as camel jockeys, saying the boys, mostly from Pakistan and Bangladesh and some as young as 4 years old, are abducted, sexually abused and underfed.

That's $160.00 per kid, if there were only 5,000 total.

Mitchell's response?

Mitchell was quoted by the state-owned Emirates News Agency in January 2007 as praising the United Arab Emirates and Dubai for a “remarkable partnership with UNICEF to locate, care for and repatriate underage camel jockeys. This program has been justly praised by the international community as a model solution to a serious problem.”

And his law firm?

DLA Piper billed the Dubai government about $8 million

The lawyers split the same amount the jockeys did. I guess that must make it fair....

394 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:04:39pm

re: #390 albusteve

melts in your mouth! not in your hand!
dont even need to chew that stuff...my favorite bread in ABQ is now 4$...

Roman Meal? Melts in your mouth? Must be different out there. It's not that Ezekiel bread by any stretch, but it's not a gooey white pseudo-bread, either.

395 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:05:12pm

23:30 U.S. Army Chief: Iranian vessel carrying arms has reached Syria (Army Radio)

gee ain't that dandy?

396 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:05:14pm

re: #380 OldLineTexan

You could just turn to face him when you have to set the ghost of the broccoli and cabbage soup free...

/

Some of my secrets!
Also, Walter avoids fish/seafood.

When I was diagnosed with having had a (silent) heart attack, they gave me a list of all the foods I should be trending for. I looked over the list and said "this is no help at all". My cholesteral level is a fairly balanced 168-170.

397 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:05:40pm

re: #384 Dianna

Considering the money they made? Please!

Actually, they did a couple books that were worthwhile. Their book on the Dead Sea Scrolls can be directly credited with stirring the public up to pressure their governments into pushing the publication of the photographs (paid for by Ms. Bechtel at the time of purchase) and then the full release of all the material.

Ah, I would have to call you on that. They were only riding on the coattails of Hershel Shanks, of the Biblical Archeology Society, who was the one instrumental in getting the scrolls out of the grubby hands of the scholars sitting on them and into the hands of the public.

For a matter of fact, that just what that team has always done, riding in behind the scholars and popularizing on a subject, even to the injury of fact and history.

They are fun to read, but I question their personal morals on a lot of areas.

398 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:05:49pm

re: #395 Nevergiveup

Maybe it's gonna have an 'accident'. How sad...

399 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:05:50pm

re: #394 OldLineTexan

Roman Meal? Melts in your mouth? Must be different out there. It's not that Ezekiel bread by any stretch, but it's not a gooey white pseudo-bread, either.

maybe I'm thinking Wonder Bread

400 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:05:58pm

re: #372 Nevergiveup

Maybe but he wasn't to stoned NOT to marry Yoko!

Wrong Beatle.

John Lennon married Yoko Ono.

Paul McCartney married Linda Eastman, a successful photographer.

I believe the fans hated both women.

401 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:06:36pm

re: #367 OldLineTexan

I still buy it. Old habits...

I can't. Stupid wheat allergy....

402 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:06:48pm

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas vowed on Tuesday to take a tough stance in talks with Israel and said he would tell a U.S. envoy that
Israel's Gaza offensive proved it was not intent on peacemaking.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Gee i wonder if Mitchell will be hanging on every word?

403 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:06:48pm

re: #387 Sifty

yoko and woody allen.

Two humans I'll never get.

Their getting married? He'll whine and she'll scream and they'll make an album.

404 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:06:49pm

re: #351 transient

I'm hoping for a Quantum Singularity Drive, but if I can't have that, can we at least send a small singularity to eat Mecca and Tehran?

But we will see if String theory holds up.. As the particle race at each other near the speed of light.. the weak force of gravity becomes stronger from the other theoretical 11 dimensions compacting and the famous G-d Particle that contains the hidden mass appears..or not.. It will be an important measurement in our lifetimes.. like E=MC2

405 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:07:00pm

Gooey Bread!....hahaa

406 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:07:13pm

re: #385 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What's wrong with that?
I'd like to know,
'Cause here I go
Again

/stop now, before it gets ugly

407 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:07:28pm

re: #399 albusteve

maybe I'm thinking Wonder Bread

Momma wouldn't buy it, so I never ate it. I bought some "Iron Kids" bread once for the boy. Once.

I did fish with a lot of white bread, though. Little balls of it. Great for bream.

408 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:07:38pm

re: #400 Dianna

Wrong Beatle.

John Lennon married Yoko Ono.

Paul McCartney married Linda Eastman, a successful photographer.

I believe the fans hated both women.

I repeat he wasn't to stoned NOT to marry Yoko!

409 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:07:45pm

re: #361 vxbush

Back then, Roman Meal bread was affordable and wonderful.

That's the only bread I buy now, the Honey Oat Bran. Mostly for making my kid's lunch. He likes it much better than white bread.

410 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:07:45pm

re: #402 Nevergiveup

Mitchell....MLB steroid Mitchell ? Yeah he's a gem-real leadership potential there...

411 USBeast  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:07:45pm

It's called Crater of Diamonds State Park and it's near Murfreesboro, not Murphysboro. Craters of the Moon is a national monument and it's in New Mexico.

412 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:07:49pm

re: #377 HoosierHoops

running a lot of scripts also?

No, just doing data manipulation. But this beats the alternative, which is messing with SPSS and trying to force it to put the data into a particular format that it simply won't do.

413 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:07:51pm

re: #381 Walter L. Newton

No, I'm about 185 right now, since I stopped smoking in Aug. I went up a bit. But two and a half years ago I was about 385 or so.

Do you miss it? I quit almost 5 years ago, and don't miss it a bit.
I get different answers on that question, just curious.

/I am NOT a smoking Nazi, and will intentionally walk downwind of a good cigar.

414 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:08:06pm

Cape cop charged in concert urination flap


A heavy metal-loving Cape Cod cop has been placed on paid leave after being accused of urinating on a fellow fan at a Metallica concert and calling a T cop an “Obama” after being tossed out.

Brewster Police Officer Joseph Houston, 29, was charged with trespassing at the TD Banknorth Garden, according to an MBTA Police report and the Suffolk District Attorney’s office.

The T report obtained by the Cape Cod Times states Houston appeared to be drunk, flashed his badge in an attempt to get back into the concert, called a black transit officer an “Obama” and was asked to leave the concert after he allegedly urinated on another patron.

This dude is all done.

415 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:08:22pm

re: #378 loppyd

{Hoooosier Daddy}

My step-father is adopted. We think he's Scottish/Irish. But who the heck knows?

{Loppyd} Nice seeing you here...

416 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:08:23pm

re: #373 jwb7605

You're leaving out sponsorship of The Howdy Doody show!
-- NOW I get the connection, and why Wonder Bread was on the Howdy Doody show commercials!

ITT owned a lot of companies at one time.

417 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:08:35pm

re: #394 OldLineTexan

Roman Meal? Melts in your mouth? Must be different out there. It's not that Ezekiel bread by any stretch, but it's not a gooey white pseudo-bread, either.

418 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:08:39pm

re: #397 Walter L. Newton

Ah, I would have to call you on that. They were only riding on the coattails of Hershel Shanks, of the Biblical Archeology Society, who was the one instrumental in getting the scrolls out of the grubby hands of the scholars sitting on them and into the hands of the public.

For a matter of fact, that just what that team has always done, riding in behind the scholars and popularizing on a subject, even to the injury of fact and history.

They are fun to read, but I question their personal morals on a lot of areas.

Hear, hear! And a big kudos to Hershel Shanks. Everyone interested in the Holy land should read his magazine.

419 jorline  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:08:45pm

re: #379 reine.de.tout

Ah, a open thread.

COOKBOOK UPDATE:
I just spoke with FlakMusic, and the files are ready to be uploaded to LULU.com

I think it would behoove me to order a copy of the book first, BEFORE posting the "sale" link, to be sure that there are no glitches in the printing of the book. Wouldn't it be awful if everyone ordered and received a book with half the recipes missing?

Please be on the lookout for the "ready for sale" announcement and link sometime between mid-February to end of February.

The announcement will be posted here, as well as in LGF open threads over the course of several days to make sure people see it.

Ya'll are gonna love it!

And, registered user FlakMusic has done the heavy lifting on this, putting into a nice format, converting the files to PDF and uploading them according to the lulu.com requirements - a special thank you to him.

And a special thank you to Jaunte for the cover art, when you see it, you will be in awe.

Thank you Reine for your diligence. This ball could have been dropped a long time ago, but your persistence prevailed.

Thanks FlakMusic and Jaunte.

420 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:08:57pm

re: #410 BigMoo

Mitchell....MLB steroid Mitchell ? Yeah he's a gem-real leadership potential there...

yeah Mr. only New Yorkers use steriod Mitchell

421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:08:59pm

re: #413 jwb7605

I have quit many times.

Definition of "cognitive dissonance"? Vegetarian Smoker.

Go figure.

422 nikis-knight  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:09:03pm

re: #288 solomonpanting

After offensive, posters of dead sell well in Gaza


Because some palestinians highest aspiration is to be a human bomb.
Charming little 'culture' they got there.

423 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:09:29pm

re: #397 Walter L. Newton

Whoa - I'm not saying they weren't riding coat-tails!

But to be absolutely fair to Baigent and Leigh, they cited him and his work. They did not claim their book was original, but it was very, very popular, and it helped a lot.

424 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:09:46pm

re: #400 Dianna

Wrong Beatle.

John Lennon married Yoko Ono.

Paul McCartney married Linda Eastman, a successful photographer.

I believe the fans hated both women.

Linda Eastman was NOT a Beatles fan...very self centered and disruptive woman....that band had several more records in them at least....she was a huge distraction and drove a wedge between Lennon and McCartney that was not resolved until about a year before Lennon was killed....

425 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:10:17pm

re: #364 Nevergiveup

If we did, we wouldn't be men?

No, you'd be a learned man. (pronounced Learn Ed)

426 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:10:28pm

re: #414 loppyd

Assuming he wasn't a probationary officer (FNG), he might've had a chance until the 'Obama' crack was made....

427 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:10:29pm

re: #400 Dianna

Wrong Beatle.

John Lennon married Yoko Ono.

Paul McCartney married Linda Eastman, a successful photographer.

I believe the fans hated both women.

Old joke:
Q: What do you call a dog with wings?
A: Linda

428 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:10:41pm

re: #397 Walter L. Newton

Ah, I would have to call you on that. They were only riding on the coattails of Hershel Shanks, of the Biblical Archeology Society, who was the one instrumental in getting the scrolls out of the grubby hands of the scholars sitting on them and into the hands of the public.

For a matter of fact, that just what that team has always done, riding in behind the scholars and popularizing on a subject, even to the injury of fact and history.

They are fun to read, but I question their personal morals on a lot of areas.

Kudos and upding for correct history....one of the reasons why Shanks is rather hated in some circles, along with his stance on the James ossuary and the handling of artifacts on the antiquities market.

429 Irish Rose  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:10:54pm

re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have quit many times.

Definition of "cognitive dissonance"? Vegetarian Smoker.

Go figure.

But at least you're trying.

430 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:11:20pm

re: #414 loppyd

Cape cop charged in concert urination flap


This dude is all done.

Nut.

431 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:11:27pm

re: #420 Nevergiveup

Yeah, he wrapped that gig up quite well, didn't he ?
NOT

432 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:11:28pm

re: #413 jwb7605

Do you miss it? I quit almost 5 years ago, and don't miss it a bit.
I get different answers on that question, just curious.

/I am NOT a smoking Nazi, and will intentionally walk downwind of a good cigar.

I was a two-three pack a day smoker. Put them down on Aug. 16th, 2008. Nope, didn't miss them at all. But, I could start again, this very minute, if i wanted to.

It was the same thing with the drinking almost 3 years ago. Just stopped, never had another drink of anything. But, if I wanted, i could start again today.

I'm really black and white about a lot of things, Whether that's good or bad, I don't know, but it certainly helps me when I decide to make a decision about my health.

If I say I'm going to do something, I do, plain and simple.

433 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:11:43pm

re: #425 Maui Girl

No, you'd be a learned man. (pronounced Learn Ed)

Are you saying I'm related to Mr. Ed? maybe.

434 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:11:49pm

re: #418 Cato the Elder

I merely point out that you and I and Walter may have been the only three people to have read the real book.

435 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:12:01pm

re: #429 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose! (purrrrr)

No I'm not. It'll be too expensive soon enough.

436 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:12:05pm

re: #422 nikis-knight

Because some palestinians highest aspiration is to be a human bomb.
Charming little 'culture' they got there.

Two Arabs are sitting in a Gaza Strip bar chatting over a pint of fermented goats milk. One pulls his wallet out and starts flipping through pictures and they start reminiscing.

"This is my oldest son, he is a martyr."

"You must be so proud," says the other.

"This is my second son. He is a martyr also."

"A fine looking young man," replies his friend.

After a pause and a deep sigh, the second Arab says wistfully, "They blow up so fast, dont they?"

437 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:12:23pm

re: #407 OldLineTexan

Momma wouldn't buy it, so I never ate it. I bought some "Iron Kids" bread once for the boy. Once.

I did fish with a lot of white bread, though. Little balls of it. Great for bream.

an with some peanut butter for river carp....

438 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:12:43pm

re: #424 albusteve

Linda Eastman was NOT a Beatles fan...very self centered and disruptive woman....that band had several more records in them at least....she was a huge distraction and drove a wedge between Lennon and McCartney that was not resolved until about a year before Lennon was killed....

I neither knew that, nor cared; I merely said that I gathered that most of the fans hated both Linda Eastman and Yoko Ono.

439 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:12:54pm

re: #418 Cato the Elder

Hear, hear! And a big kudos to Hershel Shanks. Everyone interested in the Holy land should read his magazine.

I have been, from the time it was a booklet. And all the sister mags too.

440 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:13:23pm

re: #415 HoosierHoops

{Loppyd} Nice seeing you here...

Same to you as always....

441 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:13:28pm

re: #434 Dianna

I merely point out that you and I and Walter may have been the only three people to have read the real book.

I will say one thing for LGF; it has pointed me towards books I have never heard of and would normally have never read, if not for their positive reviews. What a learned group you all are!

442 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:13:31pm

re: #427 Who Watches the Watchmen?

First two words out of my mouth when a vegetarian gives me guff about health issues:

Linda McCartney

443 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:13:43pm

re: #430 MandyManners

Nut.

Soon to be unemployed nut.

444 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:13:53pm

Obama's initiative: Demark conference on Gaza smuggling

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Memo to Group: ain't all that many weapons being smuggled thru Copenhagen

445 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:14:07pm

re: #426 BigMoo

Assuming he wasn't a probationary officer (FNG), he might've had a chance until the 'Obama' crack was made....

hate crime.

446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:14:18pm

re: #439 Walter L. Newton

I have been, from the time it was a booklet. And all the sister mags too.

By the way, caught your "Kurt Austin" joke a while ago. I got it. I laughed. Thanks.

447 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:14:19pm

re: #438 Dianna

I neither knew that, nor cared; I merely said that I gathered that most of the fans hated both Linda Eastman and Yoko Ono.

in Eastmans case now you know why....

448 MacDuff  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:14:49pm

re: #400 Dianna

Wrong Beatle.

John Lennon married Yoko Ono.

Paul McCartney married Linda Eastman, a successful photographer.

I believe the fans hated both women.

Being a creature of the Beatles era, I don't think many fans had a problem with Linda, as for me, I thought she was pretty cool. They had a great marriage and it was a shame to see her pass. Now Yoko; that a different story. A more annoying, talentless, screeching, shrew of a woman has never been born.

449 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:15:36pm

re: #436 Dustyvet

I'll never forget, right after 9/11, the 'Discovery Channel' did a series (as did everyone) about Islamic extremism and they interviewed one 'Iman' who essentially said:
"When your kids grow up, they want to be Joe Montana or some sports star...when our kids grow up, they want to kill your kids...and he smiled.
Chilling

450 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:15:46pm

re: #434 Dianna

I merely point out that you and I and Walter may have been the only three people to have read the real book.

I'm just sort of laying it out in order. It's all good that we know of these folks, have read the works and can separate the facts from the fun.

451 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:15:49pm

re: #447 albusteve

in Eastmans case now you know why....

And in Yoko's, oh...but that was obvious.

452 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:15:49pm

re: #433 Nevergiveup

Are you saying I'm related to Mr. Ed? maybe.

Okay-----I give up!

453 LeePro  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:15:59pm

OMG!

Would you just look at the design on the jacket Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R- Minnesota) is wearing on Glenn beck over at Foxsnooze ! ! !

454 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:16:04pm

Whoa, serious deja vu sensation just now. I swear I dreamt about this thread about two months ago...but I don't remember what happens next!

455 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:16:15pm

re: #448 MacDuff

Being a creature of the Beatles era, I don't think many fans had a problem with Linda, as for me, I thought she was pretty cool. They had a great marriage and it was a shame to see her pass. Now Yoko; that a different story. A more annoying, talentless, screeching, shrew of a woman has never been born.


why was Ono a shrew?....never heard that one

456 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:16:21pm

re: #448 MacDuff

Being a creature of the Beatles era, I don't think many fans had a problem with Linda, as for me, I thought she was pretty cool. They had a great marriage and it was a shame to see her pass. Now Yoko; that a different story. A more annoying, talentless, screeching, shrew of a woman has never been born.

What of Hillary Clinton?

457 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:16:31pm

re: #442 Sifty

Some people have the markers for cancer, diet makes no difference. I'll stack statistics any day of the week with you.

Sayeth the "smoking vegetarian" who is probably going to die a horrible lung cancer death because I just challenged you on that fact.

Oh, shit.

458 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:16:31pm

re: #412 vxbush

No, just doing data manipulation. But this beats the alternative, which is messing with SPSS and trying to force it to put the data into a particular format that it simply won't do.

The nice thing about PL/SQL is it allows you to manipulate data in a customized View for the user.
Take it easy tonight..You deserve it

459 Render  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:16:31pm

re: #442 Sifty

Linda sings!

NOT,
R

460 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:16:32pm

re: #445 loppyd

'Xactly ! His department is probably better off without him.

461 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:16:37pm

re: #441 vxbush

I will say one thing for LGF; it has pointed me towards books I have never heard of and would normally have never read, if not for their positive reviews. What a learned group you all are!

Thanks.

462 LeePro  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:16:58pm

re: #453 LeePro

beck Beck

PIMF

463 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:17:20pm

Is the Boston Globe slipping?

This made it onto their editorial page today.

Guantanamo: A symbol of US resolve

Among President Obama's first official acts was to shut down Guantanamo and issue less coercive interrogation rules to the CIA. In his inaugural speech, Obama couldn't even bring himself to identify who it is we are fighting, describing our foe as a "far reaching network of violence and hatred," instead of what it actually is - radical, violent Islamic fundamentalism. That's like a child coming home from school after being bullied and saying that "a far reaching network of violence and hatred" was responsible. Accurate, but not really helpful in stopping the bullying.

464 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:17:21pm

re: #450 Walter L. Newton

I'm just sort of laying it out in order. It's all good that we know of these folks, have read the works and can separate the facts from the fun.

I wish more people would - even in crankery, there are footnotes.

465 jcm  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:17:25pm

re: #297 MacDuff

You know, I remember when I was a kid "Afghanistan" was short for the absolute ends of the Earth. I was amazed when I found out later that it was actually a reall place.

It was Timbuktu for me, course Afghanistan was next door.
(Lived in Iran)

466 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:17:31pm

re: #432 Walter L. Newton

I was a two-three pack a day smoker. Put them down on Aug. 16th, 2008. Nope, didn't miss them at all. But, I could start again, this very minute, if i wanted to.

It was the same thing with the drinking almost 3 years ago. Just stopped, never had another drink of anything. But, if I wanted, i could start again today.

I'm really black and white about a lot of things, Whether that's good or bad, I don't know, but it certainly helps me when I decide to make a decision about my health.

If I say I'm going to do something, I do, plain and simple.

It's a good thing.
I was a five-roll-your-own Prince Albert cig smoker for about 15 years.
Before that, I used to smoke almost a pack of non-filter Pall Malls a day.

When they raised the price of a pack of cigs to a dollar, I went to the Prince Albert. Quitting a habit of like five cigarettes a day is really hard. My cost was about 15 cents a day.

467 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:17:36pm

re: #459 Render

i threw up a little

468 calcajun  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:17:41pm

Hillary says the world is breathing a sigh of relief with Obama in charge.

It's not a sigh, Madame Secretary. It's the world farting in our general direction.

469 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:17:50pm

re: #446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

By the way, caught your "Kurt Austin" joke a while ago. I got it. I laughed. Thanks.

Was that the one I responded to for Avanti? His background didn't quite gel with the fictional Cussler character, but it was close enough that I figured someone would get it.

Of course, someone SICK would get it.:)

470 Moonbat Serenade  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:17:57pm

re: #422 nikis-knight

Because some palestinians highest aspiration is to be a human bomb.
Charming little 'culture' they got there.

I have a buddy that bought a sex doll made in Palestine. He took it home and it blew itself up.

471 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:18:08pm

re: #448 MacDuff

Being a creature of the Beatles era, I don't think many fans had a problem with Linda, as for me, I thought she was pretty cool. They had a great marriage and it was a shame to see her pass. Now Yoko; that a different story. A more annoying, talentless, screeching, shrew of a woman has never been born.

And those were her good points!

472 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:19:06pm

This is the part where I say I have no yen for the Beatles.

And this is the part where I get scolded.

:)

473 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:19:19pm

re: #459 Render

Always thought that Linda McCartney was the "Tracy Partridge" of the group.

474 Stonemason  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:19:45pm

re: #263 vxbush

I want my lunch money back, with interest of course...

/mean bulies

475 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:20:07pm

Ah, the Beatles. My middle sister's fixation for over two decades.

476 calcajun  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:20:07pm

re: #273 SasquatchOnSteroids

Get your damn dirty paws off of my wallet, you stinking lib.

Wrong, wrong wrong. All wrong.

It's, "Get your stinking paws off my wallet, you damned dirty liberal." The cadence of that line is just wonderful--especially when delivered by Mr. Heston.

477 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:20:15pm

When the twisted ideals of jihadi terrorists spread to the insect world.

We are so screwed.

478 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:20:19pm

re: #472 loppyd

Not by me.

Don't get me wrong - I enjoy the Beatles. But I know very little about their lives, and care less. I'm always astonished by the minutiae known by true fans.

479 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:20:33pm

re: #448 MacDuff

Being a creature of the Beatles era, I don't think many fans had a problem with Linda, as for me, I thought she was pretty cool. They had a great marriage and it was a shame to see her pass. Now Yoko; that a different story. A more annoying, talentless, screeching, shrew of a woman has never been born.

Oh yes she has, and she was just confirmed by the Senate to be the next Secretary of State.

480 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:20:33pm

re: #472 loppyd

Not by me. I love their music, could care less what they do in their personal lives.

481 calcajun  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:20:40pm

re: #470 Moonbat Serenade

I have a buddy that bought a sex doll made in Palestine. He took it home and it blew itself up.

I thought you were going to say it was a goat.

482 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:20:48pm

re: #464 Dianna

I wish more people would - even in crankery, there are footnotes.

You would probably have noticed, some of the most footnoted works turn out to be the crankiest.

HBHG does have a boatload of them. Enough reference to books to keep you reading for a lifetime.

483 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:20:51pm

re: #474 Stonemason

I want my lunch money back, with interest of course...

/mean bulies

I never had lunch money; I always took my lunch, so no bullies. Plus, no one ever hung out with me before 4th grade. Too weird.

484 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:21:10pm

re: #477 Slumbering Behemoth

Eeep!

485 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:21:11pm

re: #465 jcm

It was Timbuktu for me, course Afghanistan was next door.
(Lived in Iran)

When I was a kid, there was an expression "from Kalamazoo to Timbucktu" (as in, kick somebody's ass from K to T)

486 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:22:15pm

re: #475 vxbush

Ah, the Beatles. My middle sister's fixation for over two decades.

Never liked much of their music, and I am a child of the 60's. My favorite was The Kinks.

487 Eowyn2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:22:19pm

re: #317 Blue Pinky

Terrible headline. It should read "Offensive posters of dead sell well in Gaza".
I'd still be wondering why they had to put their well up for sale, but it's still better.

"Booming Sales of Offensive posters of dead terrorists in Gaza"

488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:22:22pm

re: #485 Alouette

When I was a kid, there was an expression "from Kalamazoo to Timbucktu" (as in, kick somebody's ass from K to T)

Hence, Kilgore Trout.

489 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:22:24pm

re: #480 BigMoo

Not by me. I love their music, could care less what they do in their personal lives.

I don't dislike their music, but with a scant few exceptions, I never go "ohhh I love this song" and crank the volume.

490 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:22:50pm

re: #453 LeePro

OMG!

Would you just look at the design on the jacket Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R- Minnesota) is wearing on Glenn beck over at Foxsnooze ! ! !

Um, what's the jacket for those of us not in front of a TV right now?

491 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:23:04pm

re: #486 Walter L. Newton

Never liked much of their music, and I am a child of the 60's. My favorite was The Kinks.

Anything I know of the Beatles is from hanging around, annoying my middle sister and listening in. I don't even own any of their works in any form, while she has every single solitary title on CD.

492 Cato the Elder  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:23:06pm

re: #434 Dianna

I merely point out that you and I and Walter may have been the only three people to have read the real book.

Quite possibly, but around here you never know!

493 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:23:14pm

re: #470 Moonbat Serenade

self defense?

494 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:23:25pm

re: #482 Walter L. Newton

You would probably have noticed, some of the most footnoted works turn out to be the crankiest.

HBHG does have a boatload of them. Enough reference to books to keep you reading for a lifetime.

It does!

And checking their references told me they were out to lunch, and perhaps had a few too many martinis.

It's part of my ongoing fascination with academics wandering off cliffs and falling off the roof; all part of the wonderful world of crankery.

495 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:23:29pm

This just in from my retired female friend in New Mexico:

NASCAR NEWS...Jeff Gordon fires his entire pit crew

This announcement followed Gordon's decision to take advantage of the government's scheme to employ Harlem youngsters.

The decision to hire them was brought about by a recent documentary on how unemployed youths from Harlem were able to remove a set of wheels in less than 6 seconds without proper equipment, whereas Gordon's existing crew could only do it in 8 seconds with millions of dollars worth of high tech equipment. It was thought to be an excellent and bold move by Gordon's management team as most races are won or lost in the pits. However, Gordon got more than he bargained for!

At the crew's first practice session, not only was the inexperienced crew able to change all 4 wheels in under 6 seconds, but within 12 seconds they had changed the paint scheme, altered the VIN number, and sold the car to Dale Jr. for 10 cases of Bud, a bag of weed, and some photos of Jeff Gordon's wife in the shower.

496 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:23:34pm

re: #194 maddogg

Its pretty bad East of you too. My relatives tell me my cedars are suffering greatly and there is a pine tree down across my driveway at my place up in the mountains. Limbs snapping sound like a war in the woods. I won't be able to get up there til Friday night. Here in central Arkansas, still just rain, but that can change any minute.

I feel for all of you. Been sleeting all day, but, thank God, no freezing rain. All this global warming isn't very fun. :p

497 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:23:40pm

re: #490 Honorary Yooper

Um, what's the jacket for those of us not in front of a TV right now?

Unicorn hide?

498 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:23:48pm

re: #489 loppyd

I agree. It's good, but not crankin' good...I save that for Skynard, AC/DC, ZZ Top etc....

499 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:24:02pm

re: #488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hence, Kilgore Trout.

No, Killgore Trout was a character in that Don Knots movie about the fishes.

500 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:24:09pm

"We will do all we can to prove Israel committed crimes that would make your skin crawl," Abbas said, referring to the Geneva Conventions. "We want the world to give us justice for once." (Reuters)

Our "Partner" in peace?

501 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:24:13pm

re: #485 Alouette

When I was a kid, there was an expression "from Kalamazoo to Timbucktu" (as in, kick somebody's ass from K to T)

I'm from Kzoo...and "I survived the tornado of '80"....Gibson guitars were made there...Derek Jeter is from there...Lincoln spoke there...it's enormously famous...

502 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:24:27pm

I LOVE the Beatles! I was born 40 days after their arrival in America. My mom said I used to "dance" in my high chair when their songs came on the radio.

503 maddogg  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:24:32pm

re: #496 Soona'

I feel for all of you. Been sleeting all day, but, thank God, no freezing rain. All this global warming isn't very fun. :p

Are you up in Okieland?

504 Eowyn2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:24:54pm

re: #465 jcm

It was Timbuktu for me, course Afghanistan was next door.
(Lived in Iran)


]
it was Biafra for me.

505 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:25:00pm

re: #492 Cato the Elder

Quite possibly, but around here you never know!

vxbush is also of our company, though I didn't know it when I made my comment.

506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:25:11pm

re: #499 Walter L. Newton

No, Killgore Trout was a character in that Don Knots movie about the fishes.

Really? That's from "The Incredible Mr. Limpet"?

Watched "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken". Weird.

507 Eowyn2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:25:46pm

re: #489 loppyd

I don't dislike their music, but with a scant few exceptions, I never go "ohhh I love this song" and crank the volume.

Desperado

508 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:25:47pm

re: #478 Dianna

Not by me.

Don't get me wrong - I enjoy the Beatles. But I know very little about their lives, and care less. I'm always astonished by the minutiae known by true fans.


it's all common knowledge....for instance Ono's role in the Beatles breakup is easily refutable...

509 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:25:57pm

re: #486 Walter L. Newton

Never liked much of their music, and I am a child of the 60's. My favorite was The Kinks.

Have a cuppa'.

510 loppyd  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:25:57pm

BBL

511 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:26:23pm

re: #506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wait a dang minute. Did you just "punk" me?

512 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:26:29pm

re: #506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really? That's from "The Incredible Mr. Limpet"?

Watched "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken". Weird.

OMG! I remember seeing The Ghost and Mr. Chicken on TV as a little kid and it REALLY scared me! I bough it on DVD--what fun!

513 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:26:45pm

re: #222 Sifty

I think that it is sort of appropriate if the HR 45 Bill is named after a guy who threw himself in front of a bullet from a killer.

Since being human shields is about the only defense we will have after they disarm all lawful citizens.

If that happens, then I guess the tin-horns in the prez's office and congress will make me an outlaw. 'Nuff said.

514 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:27:05pm

re: #504 Eowyn2

]
it was Biafra for me.

We must be the same age - I remember listening to reports about Biafra when I was little.

515 Render  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:27:21pm

re: #502 goddessoftheclassroom

We're about the same age. I was tormented with the Beatles until I was old enough to buy Black Sabbath albums...

BLACK SABBATH,
R

516 Catttt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:27:24pm

re: #472 loppyd

This is the part where I say I have no yen for the Beatles.

And this is the part where I get scolded.

:)

Me neither, though I was a teen when Beatlemania broke out. I was forced to pick a "favorite Beatle" by the other girls, so I picked George. They said, "You can't pick George! Nobody picks George." So I stubbornly went to Woolworth's and bought a George doll. He's still my favorite, God rest his soul.

517 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:27:29pm

re: #494 Dianna

It does!

And checking their references told me they were out to lunch, and perhaps had a few too many martinis.

It's part of my ongoing fascination with academics wandering off cliffs and falling off the roof; all part of the wonderful world of crankery.

Maybe, I like to think it's the wonderful world of money. That's why I considered possibly cashing in on the "bloodline" fad, I got all the info, got all the character, got all the plot arcs, I just don't like telling a story in that form.

Like you probably "see" with your minds eye when you are writing long form, I don't. But if I am writing in a stage script form, I see what the actors are doing, I see the set, I see the lights, I see everything, and it's all those things that become my motivation for the dialog.

In a sense, those factors are my "paragraphs" and my dialog is the story.

518 vxbush  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:27:32pm

Closing down shop. I might check on later. Have a good evening, everyone!

519 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:28:08pm

re: #518 vxbush

Closing down shop. I might check on later. Have a good evening, everyone!

{vxbusg}
Drive safely!

520 maddogg  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:28:14pm

When guns are outlawed, only those of us who can roll our own will have them.

521 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:28:16pm

re: #506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I liked 'Ghost and Mr. Chicken'...Don Knotts at his finest.

522 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:28:26pm

people that disregard or dont like the Beatles just don't have a rock and roll heart....no blood no foul....too bad tho imo

523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:28:32pm

re: #512 goddessoftheclassroom

It was on TV today. Caught the last 45 minutes of it. Gonna buy the organ sheet music for our organist, ask him to play it at church. Gonna tell him it is a lost sheet from "Buxtehude" or something.

It'll be a pretty good joke. He'll have no idea.

524 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:28:48pm

House GOP leader to Rush: Back off

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Asked to respond to Price, Limbaugh, in an email to Politico, wrote: “I don't know Tom Price. I'm sure he is doing his best but it does not appear to be good enough. He may not have noticed that the number of Republican colleagues he has in the House has dwindled. And they will dwindle more if he and his friends don't show more leadership and effectiveness in battling the most left-wing agenda in modern history.

Good for you Rush. Give em hell!

525 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:29:04pm

re: #502 goddessoftheclassroom

I LOVE the Beatles! I was born 40 days after their arrival in America. My mom said I used to "dance" in my high chair when their songs came on the radio.

I've never really liked the Beatles or the Rolling Stones.

526 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:29:16pm

re: #502 goddessoftheclassroom

I LOVE the Beatles! I was born 40 days after their arrival in America. My mom said I used to "dance" in my high chair when their songs came on the radio.

You have talent...all I did in my highchair was fling oatmeal at my step dad...:)

527 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:29:38pm

re: #516 Catttt

Me neither, though I was a teen when Beatlemania broke out. I was forced to pick a "favorite Beatle" by the other girls, so I picked George. They said, "You can't pick George! Nobody picks George." So I stubbornly went to Woolworth's and bought a George doll. He's still my favorite, God rest his soul.

a fine man and a gentle soul indeed...

528 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:29:56pm

re: #502 goddessoftheclassroom

I LOVE the Beatles! I was born 40 days after their arrival in America. My mom said I used to "dance" in my high chair when their songs came on the radio.

I can see it now..The goddess is dancing in her High chair to Paperback Writer..
LOL

529 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:30:01pm

BEHEAD THOSE THAT INSULT THE BEATLES!

530 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:30:10pm

re: #509 MandyManners

Have a cuppa'.


[Video]

Maisey the Parrot is screeching along. Must be Davies voice.

531 MacDuff  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:30:45pm

re: #456 Dianna

What of Hillary Clinton?

She raised "bitch" to an art form.

You know, politics definitely aside, Bill seemd to have been the kind of guy that it would be enjoyable to have a beer with and at some level I understood the adultery thing when I observed Hillary. I don't condone adultery, but in Bill's case, I guess I could see his reasoning.

532 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:30:51pm

re: #506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really? That's from "The Incredible Mr. Limpet"?

Watched "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken". Weird.

Er, i was making a joke.

533 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:30:52pm

re: #504 Eowyn2

]
it was Biafra for me.

Biafra? I thought that was a Jell-O flavor.

/

534 BigMoo  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:31:00pm

re: #529 Sharmuta

BEHEAD THOSE THAT INSULT THE BEATLES!


And thus began the era of 'Beatles Fundamentalism'...lol

535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:31:05pm

re: #516 Catttt

Did you have your mind set on him?

My Sweet Lord!

536 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:31:15pm

re: #522 albusteve

people that disregard or dont like the Beatles just don't have a rock and roll heart....no blood no foul....too bad tho imo

BULLSHIT!

537 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:31:27pm

re: #529 Sharmuta

BEHEAD THOSE THAT INSULT THE BEATLES!

I wish I could!....
jus kidding

538 SurferDoc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:31:32pm

When Linda Eastman was a little girl, one of her father's law clients, Jack Lawrence, wrote a song for her called "Linda". It was a hit for Buddy Clark in 1947, has been covered many times, including once by Jan and Dean.

539 Catttt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:32:23pm

re: #488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hence, Kilgore Trout.

And here I thought it had something to do with that guy, Kurt Vonnegut. :D

540 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:32:35pm

re: #522 albusteve

people that disregard or dont like the Beatles just don't have a rock and roll heart....no blood no foul....too bad tho imo

I have a Metal heart. It pumps pure f*cking awesome.

541 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:32:54pm

re: #522 albusteve

people that disregard or dont like the Beatles just don't have a rock and roll heart....no blood no foul....too bad tho imo

Bunk.

542 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:33:09pm

re: #536 Soona'

BULLSHIT!

see what I mean?...

543 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:33:14pm

re: #536 Soona'

BULLSHIT!

Exactly!

544 LeePro  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:33:31pm

re: #490 Honorary Yooper

Um, what's the jacket for those of us not in front of a TV right now?

Ummm, sorry.
It was the all-too-familiar "Arafat plaid" (kafir?). Not just a scarf or a hankie, but the whole damn jacket!

Maybe we can find it at the Fox website... will look...

545 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:33:44pm

re: #539 Catttt

And here I thought it had something to do with that guy, Kurt Vonnegut. :D

It does, I was making a joke for FVB and he either ran with it or missed it. Sorry.

546 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:33:52pm

re: #536 Soona'

BULLSHIT!

Er....IMO.

547 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:33:55pm

re: #541 Walter L. Newton

Bunk.

you dig the Bunkles?....cool

548 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:34:32pm

re: #547 albusteve

you dig the Bunkles?....cool

WHere did I put that phone number for the Feds?

549 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:34:32pm

re: #539 Catttt

And here I thought it had something to do with that guy, Kurt Vonnegut. :D

Was making a joke out of K to T. Sheesh.

Haven't read Vonnegut though. Takes time away from my "Archie" Comics.

550 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:34:59pm

re: #549 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Was making a joke out of K to T. Sheesh.

Haven't read Vonnegut though. Takes time away from my "Archie" Comics.

Jughaid!

551 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:35:25pm

wut I miss? I was changing a dirty diaper.

Change!

552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:35:36pm

re: #550 Walter L. Newton

What Goober?

553 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:37:16pm

re: #548 Walter L. Newton

WHere did I put that phone number for the Feds?

Think it starts with 555...:)

554 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:37:55pm

re: #552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What Goober?

Interesting, I also discovered that "jughead" was the nickname of one of the nuke bombs?

LOST fans are trying to figure out what the title of the next episode means. The title is "Jughead." That's why I asked you the other night what you thought.

555 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:38:33pm

re: #516 Catttt

Me neither, though I was a teen when Beatlemania broke out. I was forced to pick a "favorite Beatle" by the other girls, so I picked George. They said, "You can't pick George! Nobody picks George." So I stubbornly went to Woolworth's and bought a George doll. He's still my favorite, God rest his soul.

He was my fave, too!
Plus his birthday was the day after mine.

556 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:38:40pm

re: #551 Sifty

wut I miss? I was changing a dirty diaper.

Change!

The zero hasn't even been prez for two weeks, and look at the shit he's already dumped in the nations briefs.

557 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:39:03pm

re: #529 Sharmuta

BEHEAD THOSE THAT INSULT THE BEATLES!

Do you know where that was filmed?

558 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:39:09pm
559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:39:32pm

re: #554 Walter L. Newton

Don't watch "Lost". The directions that I keep hearing about leads me to believe they are "Twin Peak"ing it. Making it up as they go along.

Wasn't it only supposed to last one season?

560 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:39:59pm

re: #556 Soona'

The zero hasn't even been prez for two weeks, and look at the shit he's already dumped in the nations briefs.

I know it seems like forever... but it has been exactly one whole week, today.

561 formercorpsman  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:40:01pm

re: #524 Nevergiveup

It is interesting. I really don't know what the Republican leadership thinks they will gain by making this move.

Obama has managed to deflect his Limbaugh debacle on to the Republicans now.

Of course, Mr. Limbaugh's sch tick is not for everyone, but he has managed to hold his own for 20 years now. I could see this ending up with the Republicans trying to save face, and actually being the ones who push the Fairness Doctrine.

It won't be good.

562 Catttt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:40:05pm

re: #525 Soona'

I've never really liked the Beatles or the Rolling Stones.

I loved the Stones. Had all of their albums. And the Animals.

Here's a Badfinger song I always liked - it was written by their mentor, Paul McCartney:

563 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:40:48pm

re: #553 Dustyvet

Think it starts with 555...:)

555-YOU-GIVE

564 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:41:13pm

re: #557 goddessoftheclassroom

Chiswick House

565 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:41:14pm

re: #463 loppyd

Is the Boston Globe slipping?

This made it onto their editorial page today.

Guantanamo: A symbol of US resolve

Among President Obama's first official acts was to shut down Guantanamo and issue less coercive interrogation rules to the CIA. In his inaugural speech, Obama couldn't even bring himself to identify who it is we are fighting, describing our foe as a "far reaching network of violence and hatred," instead of what it actually is - radical, violent Islamic fundamentalism. That's like a child coming home from school after being bullied and saying that "a far reaching network of violence and hatred" was responsible. Accurate, but not really helpful in stopping the bullying.

What? dear leader not aware of the Bush Doctrine. . .

566 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:41:28pm

re: #559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't watch "Lost". The directions that I keep hearing about leads me to believe they are "Twin Peak"ing it. Making it up as they go along.

Wasn't it only supposed to last one season?

You're right. But the "Lost" writers aren't doing it nearly as well.

567 Catttt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:41:37pm

re: #545 Walter L. Newton

It does, I was making a joke for FVB and he either ran with it or missed it. Sorry.

Heh. I knew there was a joke in there somewhere.

568 fish  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:42:00pm

re: #125 Cicero05

Question for the physics-minded Lizards out there:
If the Large Hadron Collider creates a black hole that doesn't dissolve instantly (see link), how much notice will we get that the world's about to end?

The end would come almost instantly. However, since time will distort in the event horizon of the black hole it is likely that we would experience the end as a slow ripping apart of everything on earth (including our own bodies) over the course of many years.

569 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:42:22pm

re: #567 Catttt

Responded too quickly. Totally missed it.

*Moron say, Huh?"

570 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:42:59pm

re: #562 Catttt

Nobody does 16 Tons better than Eric Burden. Joe vs the Volcano

571 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:43:04pm

re: #562 Catttt

I loved the Stones. Had all of their albums. And the Animals.

Here's a Badfinger song I always liked - it was written by their mentor, Paul McCartney:

Badfinger was purely a Beatles/Apple Records spinoff...they were trying to make some money and keep the company solvent

572 LeePro  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:43:56pm

re: #563 albusteve

555-YOU-GIVE

We're sorry. The number you have dialed, 555-YOU-GIVE, has been changed. The new number is 555-FUCK-YOU...

573 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:44:41pm

re: #564 Sharmuta

Chiswick House

THANKS! Now if I ever get back to England, I have a new place to visit!

574 albusteve  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:44:46pm

re: #572 LeePro

We're sorry. The number you have dialed, 555-YOU-GIVE, has been changed. The new number is 555-FUCK-YOU...

on speed dial now....thanks!

575 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:44:46pm

re: #568 fish

The end would come almost instantly. However, since time will distort in the event horizon of the black hole it is likely that we would experience the end as a slow ripping apart of everything on earth (including our own bodies) over the course of many years.

Well if that's the case..Will your Life insurance pay out? I'd like to spend a couple years in Vegas before the brutal end.

576 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:45:10pm

re: #573 goddessoftheclassroom

You're welcome.

577 Soona'  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:45:13pm

re: #561 formercorpsman

It is interesting. I really don't know what the Republican leadership thinks they will gain by making this move.

Obama has managed to deflect his Limbaugh debacle on to the Republicans now.

Of course, Mr. Limbaugh's sch tick is not for everyone, but he has managed to hold his own for 20 years now. I could see this ending up with the Republicans trying to save face, and actually being the ones who push the Fairness Doctrine.

It won't be good.

Save face? You've gotta be high. The Repubs. would cease to exist as a party, and they know it. (it's barely hanging on as it is)

578 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:45:31pm

re: #558 MandyManners

Thank you, Pres. Bush.

Yes. Thank you! Unfortunately, it is becoming apparent, your successor, the arrogant fool, will reverse the gains.

579 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:45:46pm

re: #574 albusteve

on speed dial now....thanks!

My phone only dials BR-549...

580 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:46:49pm

re: #498 BigMoo

I agree. It's good, but not crankin' good...I save that for Skynard, AC/DC, ZZ Top etc....

Now you're talking.

581 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:47:04pm

re: #559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't watch "Lost". The directions that I keep hearing about leads me to believe they are "Twin Peak"ing it. Making it up as they go along.

Wasn't it only supposed to last one season?

Nope, they are not making it up. The had all the major plot arcs worked out before they went to film.

They wanted 6 years, but went into filming with no guarantee. It wasn't until toward the end of the into the 3rd season that they got the guarantee of 6 seasons.

So, after season 1, season 2 and some of 3, meandered a bit. In general, it's like any TV show, they do have wiggle room, they have to, it's a show, it's a business, and they need to be able to adjust if need be.

But, a lot is happening right now that shows you they knew where they were going from the beginning.

No, not every episode is great, not every episode will please certain viewers. It's very much a character driven show, so if you are just looking for rockem-sockem episodes, you not going to get them every week.

But the payoff has been good, both for the fans and ABC (and the producers). If you like science versus faith, which is the main theme of the show, then you should give it another chance.

Go to the ABC website and watch the preview clip show from Jan. 21st. called "Lost - Destiny Calls." It's a summary of the last four seasons.

Walter L. Newton (ABC media department) LOL

582 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:47:16pm

re: #570 Sifty

Nobody does 16 Tons better than Eric Burden.

/guess again

583 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:47:22pm

re: #579 OldLineTexan

Saaaaaaaaaaalute!

584 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:47:55pm

re: #566 Soona'

You're right. But the "Lost" writers aren't doing it nearly as well.

Cleanup in aisle 566
/

585 Sifty  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:47:58pm

re: #582 Killian Bundy

ack. bile

586 Catttt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:48:31pm

re: #569 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Responded too quickly. Totally missed it.

*Moron say, Huh?"

As best I understand, you made a KT joke, and then Walter made a fish joke.

I loved The Incredible Mr. Limpet. Great flick. Not only did Mr. Limpet find true love - he served his country in time of war.

So - anyone read any Theodore Sturgeon lately? :D

Sturgeon's Law: Ninety percent of everything is crap.

587 Catttt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:49:13pm

re: #571 albusteve

Badfinger was purely a Beatles/Apple Records spinoff...they were trying to make some money and keep the company solvent

And they were doomed. But I liked a couple of their songs.

588 BBev  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:49:36pm

re: #496 Soona'

I feel for all of you. Been sleeting all day, but, thank God, no freezing rain. All this global warming isn't very fun. :p

Ya nice, we are going to get up to 15 inches here in New Hampshire tomorrow

589 Eowyn2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:50:24pm

re: #394 OldLineTexan

Roman Meal? Melts in your mouth? Must be different out there. It's not that Ezekiel bread by any stretch, but it's not a gooey white pseudo-bread, either.

Mastication is good for the jaw muscles.

590 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:50:24pm

re: #524 Nevergiveup

House GOP leader to Rush: Back off

[Link: www.politico.com...]

Asked to respond to Price, Limbaugh, in an email to Politico, wrote: “I don't know Tom Price. I'm sure he is doing his best but it does not appear to be good enough. He may not have noticed that the number of Republican colleagues he has in the House has dwindled. And they will dwindle more if he and his friends don't show more leadership and effectiveness in battling the most left-wing agenda in modern history.

Good for you Rush. Give em hell!

But many GOP officials, daunted by the new president’s approval rating and what they believe is fatigue on the part of voters over partisan fighting, are loath to openly criticize Obama.

What these limpdicks don't seem to understand is that there has been partisan fighting but it's all been one-sided.......the liberals kicking the shit out of them.
What the people are fatigued of is the Republicans not having the balls to fight back and call the liberals to task for what they are......

591 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:51:36pm

re: #586 Catttt

I recently re-read Venus Plus X. It has not aged well.

592 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:52:20pm

re: #589 Eowyn2

Mastication is good for the jaw muscles.

No worries here!

593 UFO TOFU  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:52:41pm

re: #540 Slumbering Behemoth

Damn, my sound died at work. Is that a newer band?

594 Eowyn2  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:52:46pm

re: #516 Catttt

Me neither, though I was a teen when Beatlemania broke out. I was forced to pick a "favorite Beatle" by the other girls, so I picked George. They said, "You can't pick George! Nobody picks George." So I stubbornly went to Woolworth's and bought a George doll. He's still my favorite, God rest his soul.

I was STUCK with John. Because I was the youngest sister. Everyone else was picked. God rest his soul too but I've always liked conservative men

595 Catttt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:52:49pm

re: #496 Soona'

I feel for all of you. Been sleeting all day, but, thank God, no freezing rain. All this global warming isn't very fun. :p

Snowed a little here during the night, but they're predicting - drum roll, please - freezing rain/sleet mix tomorrow.

596 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:53:00pm

re: #590 LGoPs

What these limpdicks don't seem to understand is that there has been partisan fighting but it's all been one-sided.......the liberals kicking the shit out of them.
What the people are fatigued of is the Republicans not having the balls to fight back and call the liberals to task for what they are......

The Repubs need Cialis; all they've got now is the bathtubs.

597 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:53:21pm

re: #587 Catttt

And they were doomed. But I liked a couple of their songs.

I was driving in the snow this morning with a college station played this wicked bad popular song and said it was written by BadFinger..I almost wrecked..now I need to remember the song..kind of pisses me off cause i was mostly intent on getting to work alive in the snow storm.
GLOBAL WARMING IS RIPPING US OFF!

598 Maui Girl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:54:52pm

re: #558 MandyManners

Thank you, Pres. Bush.

Real success will come when those women can walk to the voting booth without their burquas. But "baby steps" forward are definitely better than backwards.

599 BBev  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:55:44pm

re: #529 Sharmuta

I want to apologize for my rude behavior from the other night it was wrong of me. I am sorry.

600 jwb7605  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:55:53pm

re: #570 Sifty

Nobody does 16 Tons better than Eric Burden. Joe vs the Volcano

INFIDEL! There is only one version, and Tennesee Ernie is his name!

601 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:55:53pm

re: #591 Dianna

I recently re-read Venus Plus X. It has not aged well.

I have been trying and trying to find out the name of a scifi book I read when I was young. I've tried to google the plot idea, but nothing.

It was something about the earth moving through space, moving OUT of the influence of some "cosmic ray" and the earth reverts to a former state, that being, the animals are all smart.

The "ray" was retarding their real nature.

I can't come up with the book.

602 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:57:31pm

re: #593 UFO TOFU
Not exactly. I think there first album came out around 2000 or so. That song is off their fourth album.

Lead guitarist/singer is Matt Pike, formerly of Sleep, Asbestos Death.

603 Dianna  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:58:02pm

re: #601 Walter L. Newton

That's not ringing any bells for me, either. I may never have run across it.

604 LeePro  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:58:03pm

re: #600 jwb7605

INFIDEL! There is only one version, and Tennesee Ernie is his name!

[Video]

AMEN!

605 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:58:43pm

re: #584 Walter L. Newton

Cleanup in aisle 566
/

With chunks...

606 Catttt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:59:15pm

re: #600 jwb7605

INFIDEL! There is only one version, and Tennesee Ernie is his name!

No lie! I LOVE Tennessee Ernie Ford. I used to sing and act out that song as a little girl - the adults loved it, needless to say.

607 LeePro  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:00:02pm

Time to check the damage to my Funds, do the spreadsheet update, cook, eat...

bbiaw...

608 UFO TOFU  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:00:32pm

re: #602 Slumbering Behemoth

Thanks. I'll check it out when I get home.

609 eaglewingz08  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:00:59pm

Where did truth stop? Where did error begin?
As of January 20, 2009, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
As for making hard choices, why don't the fakistinians ever have to make hard choices?

610 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:04:01pm

re: #608 UFO TOFU

I first learned about that band here. The site even has a little streaming radio app. I've ordered a lot of CDs from that site that I could not find anywhere else. Like Monkey3, for example.

611 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:04:54pm

re: #610 Slumbering Behemoth

PIMF!

I first learned about that band HERE.

612 formercorpsman  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:06:57pm

re: #577 Soona'

Saving face in the realm of themselves interpreting it this way.

We all know Limbaugh will not back down, and good for him of he determines this is his battle to fight.

For a couple of years now, quite a few Republicans have been trying to distance themselves from him, and that section of the party. For some odd reason, I think they are under the impression, the press will suddenly become fair, the democrats will become statesmen, and the rules will put back in play.

They won't.

Like I said, those pushing against Limbaugh see themselves as trying to win some moral fight for which they are pawns.

613 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:07:05pm

re: #304 Walter L. Newton

Hey, (left over from last thread), I'm not a BIG white man, not big anymore. That photo is 8 years old. I've lost 160 pounds in the last 2 years.

Abs thread.

614 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:11:22pm

re: #613 debutaunt

Abs thread.

No, not really. If you weigh about 380, and loose around 160, it's more like the "flabs thread."

Not much you can do about flabby skin after loosing that much weigh. Yes, I do the gym thing, but we are talking about skin that has had fat behind it for 30 years. No amount to workouts will tighten that up.

Can't afford 15 thousand in cosmetic surgery.

615 Empire1  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:12:53pm

re: #517 Walter L. Newton

Maybe, I like to think it's the wonderful world of money. That's why I considered possibly cashing in on the "bloodline" fad, I got all the info, got all the character, got all the plot arcs, I just don't like telling a story in that form.

Like you probably "see" with your minds eye when you are writing long form, I don't. But if I am writing in a stage script form, I see what the actors are doing, I see the set, I see the lights, I see everything, and it's all those things that become my motivation for the dialog.

In a sense, those factors are my "paragraphs" and my dialog is the story.

I can't help wondering -- when you write plays, do your characters ever take over? The ones in my stories sometimes do, and then I have to change things to fit.

616 UFO TOFU  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:14:18pm

re: #611 Slumbering Behemoth

Thanks.

617 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:17:49pm

re: #615 Empire1

I can't help wondering -- when you write plays, do your characters ever take over? The ones in my stories sometimes do, and then I have to change things to fit.

Nope. That doesn't work for me. I know it works for some writers. Now, I will admit that after I have a character well defined, motives, backstory, arcs to his story, that those things will keep me from having my character do something that is out his "world."

I will look at a line of dialog and say to myself "he would never say that, change it."

But that is not because the character has gone off and defined himself for me, it's because I have spent a lot of time building the character in my mind, so I know him, he lives in me.

618 Natasha  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:23:16pm

All this global warming here in Ft. Lost In The Woods today got me out of a day spent entirely outside. All training for us Engineer 2 LTs was cancelled. It was an ice storm earlier, now it looks like it changed to snow. Kept going non-stop, since early morning. Roads are atrocious. So, no friends can visit, and I can't even go to the gym. Bad thing: I had to catch up on the required online classes (snore!). Good thing: I got to catch up on reading LGF (yay!).

619 gymmom  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 3:34:31pm

re: #582 Killian Bundy

LOL
I grew up in WV and until recently (I'm in my mid *cough* 40's) thought everyone grew up singing sixteen tons. My Ohio in-laws tell me differently.

620 uncle_walter87  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:17:54pm

Anybody else snowed in in the Midwest?

621 FishFearMe  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:29:28pm

re: #620 uncle_walter87

Like BBev said up there ^^^^^, here in New england we are due for about 15 inches of Globull Warming tomorrow.

622 orfannkyl  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:31:26pm

Gotta love the Obamameister--
Now there's plans for youth indoctrination!
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-to-launch-america-scouts.html

623 uncle_walter87  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:33:14pm

Yikes. We get 1-2 inches and everybody goes nuts.
We had a football player from my University killed on the Interstate last night. I'm sure you all know how to handle nasty weather a bit better than we do............

624 DisturbedEma  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:38:47pm

re: #596 OldLineTexan

The Repubs need Cialiserections that last 4 hours or more; all they've got now is the bathtubs.


fixed. . .

625 DaveinMD  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 6:01:31pm

Because some people never read their history, geography, or world news, they are determined to turn the US into another third-world country, complete with show trials and hyperinflation. Hang on, kids, it's going to be an "interesting" four years or so. As in the curse, "May you live in interesting times."

626 Stuck-in-CA  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 6:08:51pm

All of Obama's apologetic speech to the Muslim world is a bunch of bull. All that we have done for the Muslim world: in coming to their aid in Bosnia, in Kuwait, sending help and aid after the Indonesian tsumami, all the financial aid we give to all those Muslim countries including the Palestinians every year, our freeing Iraqis and Afghans, or rebuilding Iraq. Has any of that bought us an ounce of gratitude or appreciation from the Muslim world? If you give them a foot, they want a yard. If you give them a yard, they want a mile.

Nothing is ever enough for them...as we can see with Israel too. No matter how much land they give up, how many concessions they make, it will never be ENOUGH.

But Obama thinks kissing up to them is going to change their heart? THEY HAVE NO HEART...clearly. He's an idiot.

627 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 7:28:27pm

re: #559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't watch "Lost". The directions that I keep hearing about leads me to believe they are "Twin Peak"ing it. Making it up as they go along.

Wasn't it only supposed to last one season?

I follow it somewhat. I figured out the time connection fairly early, although it now seems more like probability, but I'm not sure what the difference is between first writing every episode, as if it were all made up in the big bang, versus showing the work while in progress.

Of course nothing in TV is written for 5 years before anyone knows if it will fly, and it would be leaked anyway.

Think you are a stick in the mud, or whatever one calls it.

628 Achilles Tang  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 7:29:50pm

As usual, I'm tardy. Moving up page.

629 Cutty Sark  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:28:45am

Journey to the Center of the Earth ....lol......and brilliant applications to follow .

When will Mein Kampf make the grade ?


Bush had 8 years to straighten out whatever those Democrats and Clinton screwed up .......look at your 401 , do you still have a job ?

The only thing not in short supply is partisan sour grapes .

A thought for these times , from old times :

recession- when you dont have a job .

depression- when I dont have a job .


So lets join Rush , in hoping Obama fails .......can he really do any worse than Bush and Co. ?


We''ll see , hopefully before you go on unemployment or Bankruptcy .

630 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 10:54:57am

re: #629 Cutty Sark

Journey to the Center of the Earth ....lol......and brilliant applications to follow .

When will Mein Kampf make the grade ?

What the hell is that supposed to mean?


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Outta My Head — Pomplamoose / Khalid Come see Nataly preform with Inara at Largo on June 18: bit.ly Save this song on Spotify: spoti.fiBecome a patron of our music (to vote on the songs we cover and get merch and stuff like that): patreon.com A ...
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The Raconteurs - ‘Bored and Razed’ (Lyric Video) Lyric video for The Raconteurs “Bored and Razed" from their forthcoming album HELP US STRANGER – out June 21st. Listen to "Bored and Razed" here: theraconteurs.lnk.to Pre-order & pre-save the upcoming album HELP US STRANGER here: theraconteurs.lnk.to HELP US ...
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SERGIO MENDES & BRASIL’66 - the LOOK of LOVEComposed by Burt Bacharach and Hal David and sung by Dusty Springfield, which appeared in the 1967 James Bond film Casino Royale.
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Jeremy HuntWhen his name was mispronounced live on the BBC one morning we all had a good giggle, that first time, and then it takes a while to become funny again but we have done it: metro.co.uk
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Los Coast - ‘The Morning Weight’ [Live]The new album Samsara is available June 14: geni.us
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Suppressing the Press in Australia Dept: Police Launch Second Raid on the Media in 24 Hours The ABC's headquarters in Ultimo have been raided by federal police, with the broadcaster's manager describing it as a "worry" for press freedom. It's the second federal police raid on journalists in 24 hours, officers spending seven hours yesterday ...
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An Ode to the ColonAnd paean sounded too renal-ish. Ok, maybe more homage. We take our bodies for granted - oh yes we do. All of us. All the things they do and are supposed to do. All the systems and subsystems, pieces, parts, ...
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Video Killed the Radio Star - Walk Off the Earth Ft. Sarah Silverman Stream or Download this song here: walkofftheearthent.lnk.toCatch WOTE live! CLICK HERE FOR TICKETS: goo.glSubscribe to WOTE here! bit.lyWatch and listen to our Greatest Hits!: bit.lyWOTE merch available here: walkofftheearth.myshopify.com Walk off the Earth hooked up with the amazing Sarah ...
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