Overnight Hopin’

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Outside intelligences, exploring the Solar System with true impartiality, would be quite likely to enter the Sun in their records thus: Star X, spectral class G0, 4 planets plus debris.

Isaac Asimov

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1 least  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:19:18pm

I heard very timely quote this weekend, but did not hear who said it:

A government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take all you have.

Anyone know the source?

2 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:19:18pm

Hopin' over here. Happy nite folks.

3 stevieray  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:20:23pm

re: #1 least

I heard very timely quote this weekend, but did not hear who said it:

A government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take all you have.

Anyone know the source?

Gerald Ford... although its often attributed to Jefferson.

4 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:21:11pm

Some say if there was intelligent life in the universe, we would have been contacted by now.

Other say lack of contact proves there is intelligent life in the universe.

5 logboy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:22:36pm

As my old man always says, hope in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.

6 logboy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:26:06pm

Obama Inauguration Speech Ruined By Incessant Jackhammering


WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama's Inauguration Day address—a speech that many believed would jumpstart the healing process of an ailing nation, foster hope and goodwill across the world, and serve as the ultimate stamp on the Democrat's historic win—was ruined Tuesday by nearly two hours of nonstop jackhammering.

According to D.C. officials, the jackhammering interrupted the landmark address on 30 separate occasions and came from the nearby U.S. Botanic Garden, where it was being used to break up pavement for a new Heroes of Horticulture exhibit.

"My fellow—," began Obama, who then stopped when he and the 2.5 million citizens present, some of whom had traveled thousands of miles to experience the once-in-a-lifetime event, were startled by loud, metal-on-concrete banging. "My fell…my fell…my—."..........

7 least  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:26:23pm

re: #3 stevieray

Gerald Ford... although its often attributed to Jefferson.

Gerald Ford!? How 'bout that.

But everyone knows Ford was a bumbling idiot . . . right, Avanti?
/

8 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:26:32pm

To the uneducated, an A is just three sticks.

-Eeyore

9 tradewind  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:26:52pm

Ruh-roh.
We Got Ice.
In Dixie.
I want my global warming back.

10 rawmuse  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:27:42pm

Someone committed hope-icide on me. I'll get over it.

11 freetoken  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:28:18pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

-Eeyore

Just another debris inhabitant...

12 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:28:39pm

Senator Gillibrand was sworn in today into Clinton's old seat.

Looks like the NYC liberals are already letting her know that her gun stand is completely unacceptable.

[Link: blogs.villagevoice.com...]

Gillibrand was murky on the subejct at her Sunday press conference, and Chuck Schumer, who actually predicted/demanded to Gillibrand's face at her introductory press conference that she would "evolve" on guns, pushed the subject again after her Senate swearing-in today. "She'll come to the big city," Schumer said, and "learn the damage that guns can create."

Gillibrand says she comes from a hunting family, so she probably already knows about the damage guns can do to flesh; presumably Schumer was talking about the emotional cost. But if she really needed educating in that, she'd be some kind of monster. Let us be charitable, and assume Schumer meant that she must learn who's running the New York Democratic Party these days, and what it takes to get along there.

13 Rides a Pale Horse  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:29:57pm

Missed the last thread with this:
"The Egg and I"

14 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:30:55pm

re: #9 tradewind

Just book a speaking engagement for Gore down there.
The hot air will melt everything!

15 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:30:59pm

Ahh the Overnight Hopin' the county is still here in the morning thread. How's everyone doing?

16 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:31:51pm

re: #1 least

I want to say Ben Franklin.

17 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:33:03pm

re: #16 Rustler

I want to say Ben Franklin.

Well, go right ahead, no one here will stop you

18 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:33:32pm

re: #11 freetoken

I had mentioned the wisdom of Pooh as a philosopher earlier, but little did I realize Eeyore had a bit in him too.

19 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:33:39pm

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Know its wrong he just had so many little quips.

20 least  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:33:55pm
Schumer meant that she must learn who's running the New York Democratic Party these days, and what it takes to get along there.

She will be assimilated. Resistance is futile (if a (D) follows your name).

21 logboy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:34:11pm

re: #12 karmic_inquisitor

I think she should tell the Dem Party to piss off on their gun stance, but thats just me.

22 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:34:13pm

re: #18 Sharmuta
The Philosophy of Poo is that how we are comparing Obama now.

23 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:35:57pm

Time to turn in.
Good night all and thanks for all the great advice!

24 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:37:00pm

re: #23 Typicalwhitey Night TW.

25 least  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:37:01pm

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)That was exactly what I thought -- but I think much faster than I type.
:)

26 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:38:16pm

re: #22 Rustler

0bama had people who thought we should look to Pooh for international diplomacy advice. There was a thread on it.

27 tradewind  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:38:27pm

re: #14 Typicalwhitey
Yeah, but his carbon footprint is simply unacceptably huge and unwieldy.
Every time he comes home we have to plant a forest to come up with enough offsets, and it takes Dunkin' all week to restock.

28 gmsc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:38:37pm
Outside intelligences, exploring the Solar System with true impartiality, would be quite likely to enter the Sun in their records thus: Star X, spectral class G0, 4 planets plus debris.

Isaac Asimov

I liked this quote! I laughed my Asimov!

30 Kragar  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:39:13pm

re: #25 least

That was exactly what I thought -- but I think much faster than I type.
:)

I never said he was right, but if he wants to say Ben Franklin, I wont stop him.

Ben Franklin
Ben Franklin
Ben Franklin

32 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:39:53pm

re: #31 Sharmuta

Obama's National Security Adviser: Winnie the Pooh

Mr Danzig told the Centre for New American Security: “Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.”

33 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:40:09pm

re: #26 Sharmuta

//Oh pooh with an H sorry missed that the first time around thought we had to judge him relative to the steaming type of poo.

34 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:40:16pm

re: #18 Sharmuta

I had mentioned the wisdom of Pooh as a philosopher earlier, but little did I realize Eeyore had a bit in him too.

i channel Eeyore most days:
"If enthusiasm is contagious, I am immune."

/white smoke

35 gmsc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:40:18pm

re: #8 Sharmuta

To the uneducated, an A is just three sticks.

-Eeyore

Didnt we have a rule about Eeyores in this thread?

36 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:40:51pm

"I voted Democrat once, I was a boy then. When I became a man I put away childish things." MrPaulRevere

37 logboy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:42:12pm

re: #36 MrPaulRevere

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

~Thomas Jefferson

38 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:42:51pm

re: #5 logboy

As my old man always says, hope in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one fills up first.

Umm, what if you hope for shit. What happens then?

39 gmsc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:43:02pm

Now, here's an invention I'd like to see developed, especially while 0bama is still president (even though the comic describing it is from 1974, the idea is still great):

SPAN-O-VISION!

Page 1
Page 2

40 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:43:24pm

re: #36 MrPaulRevere

"I voted Democrat once, I was a boy then. When I became a man I put away childish things." MrPaulRevere

first time in my life i ever voted Democrat was this year......

/i'll hope i'll never have to do it again.

41 gmsc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:43:54pm

re: #38 Slumbering Behemoth

Umm, what if you hope for shit. What happens then?

0bama becomes president.

42 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:44:19pm

re: #22 Rustler

The Philosophy of Poo is that how we are comparing Obama now.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

43 logboy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:44:23pm

re: #38 Slumbering Behemoth

Umm, what if you hope for shit. What happens then?

Its a win-win situation then.

44 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:44:23pm

re: #38 Slumbering Behemoth You get Obama as president.

45 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:44:41pm

/the bull[expletive deleted] was foreshadowed

46 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:44:52pm

re: #42 TheMatrix31

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Bah, I should have refreshed before posting. Good call, Sharm.

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:45:32pm

re: #43 logboy

I'm thinking "lose, lose".

48 gmsc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:45:50pm

re: #41 gmsc

0bama becomes president.

re: #44 Rustler

You get Obama as president.

GMTA!

49 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:47:09pm

re: #47 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm thinking "lose, lose".

unless you have lots of roses......

50 SurferDoc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:47:11pm

No, no, no. You put shit in one hand, hope in the other hand, then clap your hands. Voila! You are a liberal.

51 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:47:25pm
First in war, first in peace, and first in the hearts of his countrymen, he was second to none in humble and enduring scenes of private life. Pious, just, humane, temperate, and sincere; uniform, dignified, and commanding; his example was as edifying to all around him as were the effects of that example lasting…Correct throughout, vice shuddered in his presence and virtue always felt his fostering hand. The purity of his private character gave effulgence to his public virtues…Such was the man for whom our nation mourns.

Eulogy for George Washington given by Henry Lee (Father of Robert E. Lee)

52 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:48:39pm

re: #50 SurferDoc

No, no, no. You put shit in one hand, hope in the other hand, then clap your hands. Voila! You are a liberal.

not to mention your shorts around your ankles.....

/white smoke

53 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:48:56pm

re: #41 gmsc

re: #44 Rustler

And the circular, "true conservative" firing squad makes it so.

Hey, at least we didn't elect a RINO.

54 SurferDoc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:49:29pm

re: #52 redc1c4

not to mention your shorts around your ankles.....

/white smoke

That would be Bawney.

/

55 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:50:03pm

re: #51 Rustler

Now we Have almost the polar opposite as president how far we've fallen in just over 200 years.

56 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:50:24pm

re: #51 Rustler

The debate over America's 'greatest President' always struck me as kind of silly. It is George Washington, no question.

57 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:50:29pm

re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth

Damn. I did not mean to imply that either of you were part of that group. Apologies from me.

58 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:51:48pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

See what happens when you hope for shit?

59 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:52:47pm

re: #50 SurferDoc

No, no, no. You put shit in one hand, hope in the other hand, then clap your hands. Voila! You are a liberal get a unicorn.

Tweeked that for ya.

60 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:53:05pm

re: #39 gmsc

Now, here's an invention I'd like to see developed, especially while 0bama is still president (even though the comic describing it is from 1974, the idea is still great):

SPAN-O-VISION!

Page 1
Page 2

Did you notice who the author/artist was of those 2 pages? A C. Johnson.

Hmmmm, could it be?

61 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:53:20pm

re: #51 Rustler

My favorite Founder. Thank you for sharing that.

62 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:53:55pm

re: #56 MrPaulRevere

The debate over America's 'greatest President' always struck me as kind of silly. It is George Washington, no question.

You're thinking too small.

/Is Obama the Most Famous Living Person Ever?

63 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:54:13pm

re: #56 MrPaulRevere

The debate over America's 'greatest President' always struck me as kind of silly. It is George Washington, no question.

you misspelled "Ronald Reagan"

/here to help!

64 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:54:38pm
A slender acquaintance with the world must convince every man that actions, not words, are the true criterion of the attachment of friends.
George Washington

Probably woulda been a nice quote to use with avanti in last thread but alas I was too late.

65 Rustler  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:55:25pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth
I didn't get that Implication.

66 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:55:43pm

re: #53 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #44 Rustler

And the circular, "true conservative" firing squad makes it so.

Hey, at least we didn't elect a RINO.

Oh, I am just so glad we elected a Socialist instead of that RINO.

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

67 gmsc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:56:17pm

re: #56 MrPaulRevere

The debate over America's 'greatest President' always struck me as kind of silly. It is George Washington, no question.

I was once asked who I thought America's most effective president was. I replied, "William Henry Harrison. I wish more presidents would follow his example."
;)

68 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:56:19pm

re: #62 Killian Bundy

You're thinking too small.

/Is Obama the Most Famous Living Person Ever?

that's a loooooooong way to fall, even with being a lightweight with over sized ears to act as parachutes.....

happy landings Juggy!

69 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:56:30pm

re: #62 Killian Bundy

DeeDee Myers? Please. I wonder if she was sober when she blogged that.

70 gmsc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:57:00pm

re: #60 FurryOldGuyJeans

Did you notice who the author/artist was of those 2 pages? A C. Johnson.

Hmmmm, could it be?

Hmmm . . . he's been doing this longer than I though!

71 Sharmuta  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:57:05pm

re: #60 FurryOldGuyJeans

He did do work for Atari. Huh.

72 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:58:59pm

re: #67 gmsc

That was funny, in a morbid kind of way, I had to google him I'm ashamed to say.

73 gmsc  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 11:59:12pm

re: #62 Killian Bundy

You're thinking too small.

/Is Obama the Most Famous Living Person Ever?

Creepiest idea for an 0bama site: WouldYouDoThatIfBarackWasWatching.com

74 Cheechako  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:00:15am

AU-UGH! Snowplow just went by and filled my driveway with frozen goreflakes! Had about 10" today. We've had about 100 inches of gorefall in January alone.

To top that off, our main (and only) power-line from the hydro plant was wiped out by an avalanche 2 weeks ago. All our power is being provided by generators. The electric company is burning about 95,000 gallons of diesel per day to keep our lights on. Of course our electricity bills are going up 300% to pay for the diesel!

Please, pretty please, send me some global warming!

75 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:00:46am

re: #62 Killian Bundy

You're thinking too small.

/Is Obama the Most Famous Living Person Ever?

This is Vanity Fair, and O is vain, so the connection is fitting.

76 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:01:00am

re: #73 gmsc

Creepiest idea for an 0bama site: WouldYouDoThatIfBarackWasWatching.com


really creepy....

77 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:01:57am

re: #72 MrPaulRevere

That was funny, in a morbid kind of way, I had to google him I'm ashamed to say.

That was part of the fun responding that way. Inside, I'm laughing, and only the people who decide to look up his presidency will ever get the reference.

If you prefer a less morbid and more obscure version of the joke, you could always say the same thing about David Rice Atchison.

78 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:02:42am

re: #73 gmsc

Creepiest idea for an 0bama site: WouldYouDoThatIfBarackWasWatching.com

i said yes, and it said to "carry on"...... so Juggy *wants* me to scratch my balls, or he just wants to watch and be jealous?

/i'm confused

79 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:03:06am

re: #73 gmsc

Creepiest idea for an 0bama site: WouldYouDoThatIfBarackWasWatching.com

I know the 1984 allusions are legion and overblown, but the whole concept of that site is just so Big Brotherish.

80 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:03:55am

re: #79 FurryOldGuyJeans

I know the 1984 allusions are legion and overblown, but the whole concept of that site is just so Big Brotherish.

In other words, appropriate for 0bama?

81 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:05:01am

re: #78 redc1c4

i said yes, and it said to "carry on"...... so Juggy *wants* me to scratch my balls, or he just wants to watch and be jealous?

/i'm confused

You really must be concerned what O wants you to do. You need a replica of his Egg of Power and a copy of the Obama Reader to become one with the Magnificence that is the One.

82 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:05:19am

re: #79 FurryOldGuyJeans

I know the 1984 allusions are legion and overblown, but the whole concept of that site is just so Big Brotherish.

I was thinking the same.....but was just afraid maybe I am just lietting all this stuff get to me.....it is all so over the top.....

83 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:05:48am

Is anyone keeping track of the various celebs in that insipid 'I Pledge' video? I think we should do a police blotter for those involved and maybe weigh the charges they were arrested for against what they pledged to do in that creepy yet hilariously-self-parodying video.

84 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:06:14am

re: #80 gmsc

In other words, appropriate for 0bama?

re: #82 inquisitive

I was thinking the same.....but was just afraid maybe I am just lietting all this stuff get to me.....it is all so over the top.....

Dear Leader would be proud that we comply.

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:07:56am

re: #65 Rustler

What I meant to say, with my lame, sarcastic remark, was that "true conservatives" could not be bothered with the minor effort of voting for the R ticket to oppose the O ticket, and thus share equal responsibility with O voters for electing our current POTUS.

Further, I did not mean my sarcastic remark to be a slight at either you or GSMC, but at those who chose to sit out this election because McCain was not conservative/republican enough in their eyes.

86 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:08:17am

re: #84 FurryOldGuyJeans

Dear Leader would be proud that we comply.

Can you back that up with any quotations from the Chairman's little blue book?

87 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:08:34am

re: #79 FurryOldGuyJeans


I clicked 'yes' and it simply said 'Carry on".

Reminded me a little of Officer Barbrady in South Park.

88 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:08:53am

IT IS JUST GETTING TO BE TOO MUCH!
IT"S "O"-VERLOAD!
I CAN'T STAND THE "O" WORSHIP, HIS PICTURE ON TV EVERY 10 MINUTES!
SOMEONE PUT A BULLET IN MY HEAD!

89 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:09:11am

re: #85 Slumbering Behemoth

What I meant to say, with my lame, sarcastic remark, was that "true conservatives" could not be bothered with the minor effort of voting for the R ticket to oppose the O ticket, and thus share equal responsibility with O voters for electing our current POTUS.

Further, I did not mean my sarcastic remark to be a slight at either you or GSMC, but at those who chose to sit out this election because McCain was not conservative/republican enough in their eyes.

That's how I read it.

90 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:09:15am

re: #84 FurryOldGuyJeans

Dear Leader would be proud that we comply.

There is just way to many people wanting him to be something.....he is not! and they are trying so hard to sell it to us that know it! ! ! !

91 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:09:47am

re: #87 Fenway_Nation

I clicked 'yes' and it simply said 'Carry on".

Reminded me a little of Officer Barbrady in South Park.

If you click 'no', it simply says, "Reconsider."

92 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:09:54am

re: #87 Fenway_Nation

I clicked 'yes' and it simply said 'Carry on".

Reminded me a little of Officer Barbrady in South Park.

Clicking 'no' bring up "Reconsider".

Big Brother indeed.

93 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:10:07am

re: #88 IslandLibertarian

How about we shoot your TV instead and keep you.

94 Rides a Pale Horse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:10:36am
95 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:11:12am

re: #94 Rides a Pale Horse

Ha!

96 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:11:18am

re: #86 gmsc

Can you back that up with any quotations from the Chairman's little blue book?

"Um....um.....um......"

97 A.W.  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:11:25am

Creepy factoid. if you click on the link on my name, you will go to a post at gateway pundit where it is claimed that the president of iran has jewish roots.

Creepy to me, because, um, isn't that a rumor about hitler, too? I am genuinely concerned that we are about to see a repeat of history of the worst sort. sigh.

98 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:11:42am

re: #88 IslandLibertarian

Apparently hi-def was invented just so we can enjoy King Barry the Present's countenance shining down upon us unwashed masses in unprecedented crystal clarity...

99 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:12:36am

re: #83 Fenway_Nation

I was relieved to see Andrew Breitbart take on these self absorbed nit wits in his new blog. At least someone has the guts to say the emperor has no clothes.

100 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:12:56am

Well....at least there should be some good news in IL tomorrow....our
gov. will be impeached.....

101 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:13:29am

re: #98 Fenway_Nation

Apparently hi-def was invented just so we can enjoy King Barry the Present's countenance shining down upon us unwashed masses in unprecedented crystal clarity...

The government needs to buy me that 52" HDTV thing so I can perform my daily 5 Minute Hate session.

102 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:13:51am

A list of Quotes From George Washington Obama should take to heart and consider Scholar of American history that he is.

Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light.


The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good.


The basis of our political system is the right of the people to make and to alter their constitutions of government.

That's right Obama the people not the President.

My observation is that whenever one person is found adequate to the discharge of a duty... it is worse executed by two persons, and scarcely done at all if three or more are employed therein.


Let your Discourse with Men of Business be Short and Comprehensive.


Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.


Laws made by common consent must not be trampled on by individuals.


Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire, called conscience.


It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.


It may be laid down as a primary position, and the basis of our system, that every Citizen who enjoys the protection of a Free Government, owes not only a proportion of his property, but even of his personal services to the defense of it.

This includes the man in charge of the IRS.

If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War.


If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.


I hope I shall possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man.


I have no other view than to promote the public good, and am unambitious of honors not founded in the approbation of my Country.


Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.


Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.


Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.


Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence.


Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company.


Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.


A slender acquaintance with the world must convince every man that actions, not words, are the true criterion of the attachment of friends.
103 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:14:27am

re: #93 Sharmuta

How about we shoot your TV instead and keep you.

Will you shoot the newspapers and radio stations and all the "devotee's" also here in Oa-bama-hu Land?
His voice is just about making me crazy.

104 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:14:43am

re: #98 Fenway_Nation

Apparently hi-def was invented just so we can enjoy King Barry the Present's countenance shining down upon us unwashed masses in unprecedented crystal clarity...

but Congress has delayed the mandatory debut of HD because not all of the hoi palloi have got the new tv's/converters.....

if the mob can't get the MSM message, how will they stay in power?

/what did they do with their stimulus checks last year?

105 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:14:54am

re: #85 Slumbering Behemoth
Meant I didn't see it as insult.

106 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:14:56am

re: #100 inquisitive

Well....at least there should be some good news in IL tomorrow....our
gov. will be impeached.....

...and hopefully removed from office, as well.

107 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:15:07am

re: #100 inquisitive

Well....at least there should be some good news in IL tomorrow....our
gov. will be impeached.....

Not to discount what you say but all the news I hear about the impeachment is that it could take weeks at a minimum. If he does get impeached then the state Senate trial could last months.

Blagohair needs to be clipped as soon as possible.

108 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:15:19am

re: #97 A.W.


Ugh....I didn't even consider the Chamberlain comparison vis-a-vis 0bama. I've always compared his 0ne-ness to Carter in terms of policy.

But after playing the 'Which nominally friendly/strategically allied nations will 0bama throw under the bus first?' drinking game (had to stop after Turkey, Colombia and the Ukraine), it doesn't seem that far fetched.

109 LeePro  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:16:05am

re: #100 inquisitive

Well....at least there should be some good news in IL tomorrow....our
gov. will be impeached.....

Hopenchange!

[Just chose "Add to dictionary" in spellchecker!]

110 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:16:30am

re: #103 IslandLibertarian

You should know by now that the msm in all of it's forms should be shunned.

111 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:17:04am

re: #106 gmsc

...and hopefully removed from office, as well.

he will appeal it.....if he can....anyone know the laws on impeachment....or where I could go and look?

112 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:17:44am

re: #107 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not to discount what you say but all the news I hear about the impeachment is that it could take weeks at a minimum. If he does get impeached then the state Senate trial could last months.

Blagohair needs to be clipped as soon as possible.

why? he hasn't done anything most, if not all of those running him out haven't done..... hell, he hasn't even been given a court date.

113 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:18:13am

re: #89 gmsc

As a somewhat coarse, yet very astute (and I suspect, hawt) Lizard has put it:

I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn't conservative enough are fucking happy now.

I have taken to sarcastically saying "Hey, at least we didn't elect a RINO", which apparently was originated by Lizard FurryOldGuyJeans. So, throw him a beer or two if you use it.

114 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:18:16am

re: #108 Fenway_Nation

Ugh....I didn't even consider the Chamberlain comparison vis-a-vis 0bama. I've always compared his 0ne-ness to Carter in terms of policy.

But after playing the 'Which nominally friendly/strategically allied nations will 0bama throw under the bus first?' drinking game (had to stop after Turkey, Colombia and the Ukraine), it doesn't seem that far fetched.

and Georgia.

115 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:18:41am

re: #104 redc1c4

I can't help but notice the first thing a leftist/Marxist government will do is tout its high literacy rates (see: Cuba). My initial though was 'Makes sense. Kinda hard to use government propaganda on the illiterate'

116 LeePro  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:18:59am

re: #102 Rustler

A list of Quotes From George Washington Obama should take to heart and consider Scholar of American history that he is.

"...George Washington Obama..."

ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH! ! !
Please re-arrange that sentence!

117 pbird  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:19:09am

re: #88 IslandLibertarian

IT IS JUST GETTING TO BE TOO MUCH!
IT"S "O"-VERLOAD!
I CAN'T STAND THE "O" WORSHIP, HIS PICTURE ON TV EVERY 10 MINUTES!
SOMEONE PUT A BULLET IN MY HEAD!

I'm sorry. I just turn the media off when it starts shoving juggy at me. I think of it as a little bit of exercise.

118 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:19:19am

re: #107 FurryOldGuyJeans
Impeachment is merely the trial. whether he is removed from office or not like Clinton he still has the Stigma of Impeachment on his head.

119 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:19:21am

re: #104 redc1c4

but Congress has delayed the mandatory debut of HD because not all of the hoi palloi have got the new tv's/converters.....

if the mob can't get the MSM message, how will they stay in power?

/what did they do with their stimulus checks last year?

Interestingly with the Seattle area Comcast Digital Transport Adapters several of the prime propaganda channels are blocked when you hook the thing up to an analog TV. CNN, CNN Headline News.

120 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:20:08am

re: #116 LeePro
yeah should have been from George Washington, Which Obama should read sorry.

121 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:21:12am

re: #114 redc1c4


I figured Georgia was a sort of trial balloon for what the Russian bear has in mind for the Ukraine.

The frightening thing is that all three of them are

A) Very plausible and

B) Just the beginning

122 Sharmuta  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:21:17am
123 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:21:28am

The Venezuala model.

/I'm cogitating a post about it, bribe the illiterate poor to vote en masse, the parallels are eerie

124 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:21:32am

re: #119 FurryOldGuyJeans

Interestingly with the Seattle area Comcast Digital Transport Adapters several of the prime propaganda channels are blocked when you hook the thing up to an analog TV. CNN, CNN Headline News.

and the downside is?

125 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:22:30am

re: #124 redc1c4

and the downside is?

The downside is for Big Brother....less unicorn propaganda to keep the masses content.

126 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:22:31am

re: #121 Fenway_Nation

I figured Georgia was a sort of trial balloon for what the Russian bear has in mind for the Ukraine.

The frightening thing is that all three of them are

A) Very plausible and

B) Just the beginning

and to think that i had the plan to defeat Russia in Georgia without confrontation.........

127 Wytnucls  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:22:38am

I disagree with Asimov:
Any intelligent life, advanced enough to prospect through the Galaxy, would know how important it is to find water in liquid form, in any planetary system.
Having said that, in view of the immensity of the universe and travel speed constraints, the chances of two distinct civilizations meeting, is in my opinion, pretty remote.

128 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:22:44am

re: #124 redc1c4
The Poor who still use analog antennas for their TV won't get their daily dose of visual Koolaid.

129 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:22:47am

re: #110 Sharmuta

I like to know what my enemy is saying, so I tune in to the MSN.
I consider it a painful necessity.

130 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:23:16am

re: #74 Cheechako

AU-UGH! Snowplow just went by and filled my driveway with frozen goreflakes! Had about 10" today. We've had about 100 inches of gorefall in January alone.

To top that off, our main (and only) power-line from the hydro plant was wiped out by an avalanche 2 weeks ago. All our power is being provided by generators. The electric company is burning about 95,000 gallons of diesel per day to keep our lights on. Of course our electricity bills are going up 300% to pay for the diesel!

Please, pretty please, send me some global warming!

Diary of a snow shoveler

Dear Diary...

December 8 - 6:00 PM. It started to snow. The first snow of the season and the wife and I took our cocktails and sat for hours by the window watching the huge soft flakes drift down from heaven. It looked like a Grandma Moses Print. So romantic we felt like newlyweds again. I love snow!

December 9 - We woke to a beautiful blanket of crystal white snow covering every inch of the landscape. What a fantastic sight! Can there be a more lovely place in the Whole World? Moving here was the best idea I've ever had. Shoveled for the first time in years and felt like a boy again. I did both our driveway and the sidewalks. This afternoon the snowplow came along and covered up the sidewalks and closed in the driveway, so I got to shovel again. What a perfect life.

December 12 - The sun has melted all our lovely snow. Such a disappointment. My neighbor tells me not to worry, we'll definitely have a white Christmas. No snow on Christmas would be awful! Bob says we'll have so much snow by the end of winter, that I'll never want to see snow again. l don't think that's possible. Bob is such a nice man, I'm glad he's our neighbor.

December 14 - Snow lovely snow! 8" last night. The temperature dropped to -20. The cold makes everything sparkle so. The wind took my breath away, but I warmed up by shoveling the driveway and sidewalks. This is the life! The snowplow came back this afternoon and buried everything again. I didn't realize I would have to do quite this much shoveling, but I'll certainly get back in shape this way. I wish l wouldn't huff and puff so.

December 15 - 20 inches forecast. Sold my van and bought a 4x4 Blazer. Bought snow tires for the wife's car and 2 extra shovels. Stocked the freezer. The wife wants a wood stove in case the electricity goes out. I think that's silly. We aren't in Alaska, after all.

December 16 - Ice storm this morning. Fell on my ass on the ice in the driveway putting down salt. Hurt like hell. The wife laughed for an hour, Which I think was very cruel.

December 17 - Still way below freezing. Roads are too icy to go anywhere. Electricity was off for 5 hours. I had to pile the blankets on to stay warm. Nothing to do but stare at the wife and try not to irritate her. Guess I should've bought a wood stove, but won't admit it to her. God I hate it when she's right. I can't believe I'm freezing to death in my own living room.

December 20 - Electricity's back on, but had another 14" of the damn stuff last night. More shoveling. Took all day. Goddamn snowplow came by twice. Tried to find a neighbor kid to shovel, but they said they're too busy playing hockey. I think they're lying. Called the only hardware store around to see about buying a snow
blower and they're out. Might have another shipment in March. I think they're lying. Bob says I have to shovel or the city will have it done and bill me. I think he's lying.

TBC..

131 LeePro  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:23:22am

re: #107 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not to discount what you say but all the news I hear about the impeachment is that it could take weeks at a minimum. If he does get impeached then the state Senate trial could last months.

Blagohair needs to be clipped as soon as possible.

The impeachment vote in the state House was something like 171-1 [the lone dissenting vote being his sister-in-law]. The senate trial is going on now --- since Monday. News I've read says it will be mere weeks, if that long!

Sooner is way better!

132 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:23:34am

December 22 - Bob was right about a white Christmas because 13 more inches of the white sh#t fell today, and it's so cold it probably won't melt till August. Took me 45 minutes to get all dressed up to go out to shovel and then I had to pee. By the time I got undressed, peed and dressed again. I was too tired to shovel. Tried to hire Bob who has a plow on his truck for the rest of the winter; but he says he's too busy. I think the bugger is lying.

December 23 - Only 2" of snow today. And it warmed up to 0. The wife wanted me to decorate the front of the house this morning. What is she nuts! Why didn't she tell me to do that a month ago? She says she did but I think she's lying.

December 24 - 6". Snow packed so hard by snowplow, l broke the shovel. Thought I was having a heart attack. If I ever catch the s.o.b who drives that snow plow I'll drag him through the snow by his ankles and beat him to death with my broken shovel. I know he hides around the corner and waits for me to finish
shoveling and then he comes down the street at a 100 miles an hour and throws snow all over where I've just been! Tonight the wife wanted me to sing Christmas carols with her and open our presents, but I was too busy watching for the damn snowplow.

December 25 - Merry frigging Christmas! 20 more inches of the damn slop tonight. Snowed in. The idea of shoveling makes my blood boil. God I hate the snow! Then the snowplow driver came by asking for a donation and I hit him over the head with my shovel. The wife says I have a bad attitude. I think she's a fricking idiot. If I have to watch "It's A Wondeful Life" one more time, I'm going to stuff her into the microwave.

December 26 - Still snowed in. Why the hell did I ever move here? It was all HER idea. She's really getting on my nerves.

December 27 - Temperature dropped to -30 and the pipes froze, plumber came after 14 hours of waiting for him, he only charged me 1,400 to replace all my pipes.

December 28 - Warmed up to above -20. Still snowed in. THE BITCH is driving me crazy!

December 29 - 10 more inches. Bob says I have to shovel the roof or it could cave in. That's the silliest thing I ever heard. How dumb does he think I am?

December 30 - Roof caved in. I beat up the snow plow driver and he is now suing me for a million dollars not only the beating I gave him but also for trying to shove the broken snow shovel up his ass. The wife went home to her mother. 9" predicted.

December 31 - I set fire to what's left of the house. No more shoveling.

January 8 - Feel so good. I just love those little white pills they keep giving me. Why am I tied to the bed?

133 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:23:36am

re: #129 IslandLibertarian
I try but can't stomach it for long.

134 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:23:53am

re: #115 Fenway_Nation

I can't help but notice the first thing a leftist/Marxist government will do is tout its high literacy rates (see: Cuba). My initial though was 'Makes sense. Kinda hard to use government propaganda on the illiterate'

whereas we've reversed that trend..... now we don't need them to do anything more than watch TV.

/progress

135 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:24:02am

I just thought this was too good not to share:

Another Selling Point for Phoenix Light Rail

Share a ride with a prisoner:

Maricopa County sheriff’s deputies may soon begin taking some inmates to Fourth Avenue Jail on Metro light rail in a bid to cut costs.

The Sheriff’s Office announced its intent to transport inmates using the light rail from 44th and Washington streets to the Fourth Avenue Jail in order to eliminate parking fees. MCSO estimates that the new system can save about $72,000 in transport fees.

Seems to be some funny economics at work if the city charges the Sheriff more money for parking a car at the jail than it does for at least 3 people to ride the metro.

Anyway, count on Sheriff Joe to ease any tension you might have with this share-a-ride program:

“There is nothing to be concerned or worried about as my deputies will be armed,” Sheriff Joe Arpaio said in a press release.

Great, but who is going to protect me from the sheriff? And why does this statement remind me of the famous Al Haig “Don’t Worry, I’m in charge” press conference?

136 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:24:16am

re: #105 Rustler

Meant I didn't see it as insult.

Right. I suspected such, but did not want to assume too much, so I offered a preemptive apology. I am quite pleasantly drunk, and endeavoring to be as respectful as possible.

137 LeePro  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:24:25am

re: #103 IslandLibertarian

Will you shoot the newspapers and radio stations and all the "devotee's" also here in Oa-bama-hu Land?
His voice is just about making me crazy.

You're listening?

On purpose?

138 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:25:15am

re: #127 Wytnucls

I disagree with Asimov:
Any intelligent life, advanced enough to prospect through the Galaxy, would know how important it is to find water in liquid form, in any planetary system.
Having said that, in view of the immensity of the universe and travel speed constraints, the chances of two distinct civilizations meeting, is in my opinion, pretty remote.

unless, of course, they aren't anything like us, and therefore water isn't a necessary requirement, and it might even be a poison to them.

139 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:25:36am

re: #122 Sharmuta

[Video]

What are you trying to say, Sharmuta?

140 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:26:47am
141 LeePro  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:26:52am

re: #111 inquisitive

he will appeal it.....if he can....anyone know the laws on impeachment....or where I could go and look?

Google: "Illinois law: impeachment"
Here.

142 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:27:00am

re: #102 Rustler

Outstanding! Thank you, I have that on favorites.

143 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:28:07am

re: #131 LeePro

The impeachment vote in the state House was something like 171-1 [the lone dissenting vote being his sister-in-law]. The senate trial is going on now --- since Monday. News I've read says it will be mere weeks, if that long!

Sooner is way better!

Well, DAMN! I like that vote. ;)

144 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:28:55am

re: #139 gmsc

I believe shes saying goodbye to the MSM.

145 LeePro  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:29:02am

re: #112 redc1c4

why? he hasn't done anything most, if not all of those running him out haven't done..... hell, he hasn't even been given a court date.

The Illinois senate impeachment trial is going on now. It's the criminal trial that hasn't been docketed yet.

146 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:29:53am

re: #130 Erik The Red

re: #132 Erik The Red

Forgot: Morning Lizards on the Hopen thread.

147 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:29:58am

re: #142 MrPaulRevere

Np I tryed to pick quotes that were fairly Contrary to what Obama is doing just to help illustrate for the Moonbats the differneces between the O and President Washington. I especially loved finded all the ones about picking Aquaintences.

148 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:30:33am

re: #146 Erik The Red
Morning Eric.

149 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:32:02am
150 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:32:25am

re: #145 LeePro

The Illinois senate impeachment trial is going on now. It's the criminal trial that hasn't been docketed yet.

The first Illinois government official ever impeached. The distinction of that is so wonderful.

151 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:34:45am

Illinois Politicians! Now with 80% less hope and change!

152 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:35:47am

Let 1,000 Republican Flowers Bloom

George W. Bush, the leader of the party - and, let's face it, of conservatives - for the last eight years, has only just left town. Fairly or unfairly (mostly unfairly), he ended up a very unpopular guy. It's going to take a while for Republicans to shake free of the Bush effect. And, more important, to shake free of the fact that for the last 14 years, and 26 of the last 28, there's been a Republican president in the White House and/or Republican control of Congress. That's why one has to be careful about what one wishes for. Republicans, newly liberated, need to resist calls to shackle themselves to prematurely announced agendas and already anointed leaders. This is the time for a thousand Republicans to bloom.

153 LeePro  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:36:09am

re: #151 Fenway_Nation

Illinois Politicians! Now with 80% less hope and change!

ROTFLMAO!

154 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:36:30am

re: #141 LeePro

Google: "Illinois law: impeachment"
Here.

I already did .....just one paragraph...says they can do it.....and cannot impose anything other than removing from office and not allowing them to hold any other office in the state ever again.

155 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:36:58am

Well, there's that rule.

G'nite Lizards.

156 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:38:44am

re: #152 gmsc

Let 1,000 Republican Flowers Bloom

I'm doing some historical research about the Civil War, and the level of hatred leveled at Lincoln by some on both sides is so similar to what GWB had to endure.

157 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:38:51am

Been doing a bit of lurking and surfing. Amazing what you find when you do.

/geeks and gamers will understand. :)

158 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:38:51am

re: #149 ploome hineni

why assume that all life needs water? Life as we understand it needs water, but there may be other types of intelligent life that we are unable to imagine

GMTA........ see #138.

159 abaleh  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:39:16am

re: #36 MrPaulRevere

If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.

160 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:39:27am

re: #154 inquisitive That's all an Impeachment is. The step after Impeachment is Criminal procedings which I'm hoping will land Blago in hte slammer and hopefully get Emmanuel at least hit from the Obama Admin. I'd love for it to touch Obama but I think Rahmbo will end up atop the grenade whether he throws himself or is thrown onto it is a matter which I don't think is certain yet.

161 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:41:19am

re: #159 abaleh I was heartless. Now at least I'm only Jaded.

162 hazzyday  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:41:45am
163 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:42:01am

re: #161 Rustler

I was heartless. Now at least I'm only Jaded.

I prefer Belligerent. ;)

164 LeePro  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:42:30am

Re-post from downstairs... for those of you who weren't there

My response to the egg sculpture thingie...
Couldn't help it. I like this one much better!

'Nite-'nite, lizard babes!

165 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:43:01am

re: #145 LeePro

The Illinois senate impeachment trial is going on now. It's the criminal trial that hasn't been docketed yet.

pretty much my point..... he's being railroaded by a buncha crooks who are just mad he made it hard for them to keep doing what they always do cause he got caught.....

i figure they all deserve each other, so what's the rush? besides, if it bothered the citizens of Illinois, they;d have thrown the bastids out long ago.

166 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:44:00am

re: #160 Rustler

That's all an Impeachment is. The step after Impeachment is Criminal procedings which I'm hoping will land Blago in hte slammer and hopefully get Emmanuel at least hit from the Obama Admin. I'd love for it to touch Obama but I think Rahmbo will end up atop the grenade whether he throws himself or is thrown onto it is a matter which I don't think is certain yet.

What I am trying to find....is there anyway he can appeal it....if/when they should find against him and impeach him .....
I would love for it to touch Obama also....but there is a lot of people that will make sure that doesn't happen...

167 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:44:07am

Night {LeePro}. Have a good night and stay warm.

/like that sculpture too.

168 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:44:42am

re: #165 redc1c4

Evening red. Hows it hanging?

169 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:45:11am

Night LeePro!

170 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:45:32am

re: #160 Rustler

That's all an Impeachment is. The step after Impeachment is Criminal procedings which I'm hoping will land Blago in hte slammer and hopefully get Emmanuel at least hit from the Obama Admin. I'd love for it to touch Obama but I think Rahmbo will end up atop the grenade whether he throws himself or is thrown onto it is a matter which I don't think is certain yet.

If you want to get technical, an impeachment is just the consideration by the legislative body of removal from office. As soon as the Illinois legislature announced they would be considering removing Blago from his office, he was impeached.

Look at Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton - both were impeached, yet neither was removed from office.

171 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:45:48am

re: #165 redc1c4

pretty much my point..... he's being railroaded by a buncha crooks who are just mad he made it hard for them to keep doing what they always do cause he got caught.....

i figure they all deserve each other, so what's the rush? besides, if it bothered the citizens of Illinois, they;d have thrown the bastids out long ago.

Well...we are trying to clean it up......we already got rid of Senator Obama
//

172 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:48:10am

re: #171 inquisitive

Well...we are trying to clean it up......we already got rid of Senator Obama
//

Oh gee thanks. :%P%

173 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:48:24am

re: #168 Mel Lono

Evening red. Hows it hanging?

one lower than the other...... same as always.

Gosling's Gold and water?

174 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:49:13am

re: #173 redc1c4

picked up a bottle today. Just a bit of Rose's lime and ice in mine.

175 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:49:44am

re: #171 inquisitive


Yea...thanks for sequestering him to a remote out-of-the-way location to make sure any damage he'd do would be minimized.

//

176 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:52:02am

re: #162 hazzyday

2800 plus channels of world debris-wide TV

Corrected it for you.

/2800 channels... that means only about 30 seconds each per day if one wants to surf them all everyday!

177 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:52:46am

re: #170 gmsc
Yeah I'd stated in my 118 the Impeachment was just the trial didn't want to repaeat myself in hte followup.

178 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:53:38am

re: #172 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oh gee thanks. :%P%

re: #175 Fenway_Nation

Yea...thanks for sequestering him to a remote out-of-the-way location to make sure any damage he'd do would be minimized.

//

No.... Thanks necessary.......was more than happy to do it!......
//

179 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:54:41am

re: #174 Mel Lono

picked up a bottle today. Just a bit of Rose's lime and ice in mine.

have you tried it straight?

(only key lime juice in the house, but it's so tasty i don;t see a need to flavor it.)

180 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:54:48am

re: #178 inquisitive

No.... Thanks necessary.......was more than happy to do it!......
//

You'll need a new governor when this is all over, you can have WA State's Christine Gregoire.

181 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:55:49am

re: #176 freetoken

Of course you realize of those 2800 channels 1/3 is going to be stuff that's repeated on the other channels, 1/3 will be pure drek, 1/6 will be pay per view, and maybe if you are lucky, 1/24 will actually be something you enjoy watching.

182 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:56:25am

re: #178 inquisitive

No.... Thanks necessary.......was more than happy to do it!......
//

"Confirm. On target, Willie Peter in effect, battery fire, over."

183 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:56:53am

re: #181 BlueCanuck

Of course you realize of those 2800 channels 1/3 is going to be stuff that's repeated on the other channels, 1/3 will be pure drek, 1/6 will be pay per view, and maybe if you are lucky, 1/24 will actually be something you enjoy watching.

I just see 2800 reasons to watch DVDs.

184 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:56:58am

re: #181 BlueCanuck

Of course you realize of those 2800 channels 1/3 is going to be stuff that's repeated on the other channels, 1/3 will be pure drek, 1/6 will be pay per view, and maybe if you are lucky, 1/24 will actually be something you enjoy watching.

and half of that will be in Spanish.

185 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:57:20am

re: #184 redc1c4

and half of that will be in Spanish.

Que?

186 logboy  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:57:31am

I see the Democrats are showing their true colors again. This time they're following Obama's lead and attacking private citizens. I'm calling my Rep tomorrow. Things are getting way out of control.

187 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 12:59:43am

re: #180 FurryOldGuyJeans

You'll need a new governor when this is all over, you can have WA State's Christine Gregoire.

Why do you want to punish us.....haven't we had enough problems....oh I see....for the Obama thingy....LOL

188 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:01:21am

re: #186 logboy

I see the Democrats are showing their true colors again. This time they're following Obama's lead and attacking private citizens. I'm calling my Rep tomorrow. Things are getting way out of control.

Shades of Woodrow Wilson and his Espionage Act of 1917 and Sedition Act of 1918. Dissent once again becomes criminal instead of patriotic.

189 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:02:15am

re: #179 redc1c4

only when i first wake up in the morning.

190 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:02:47am

re: #183 FurryOldGuyJeans

I just see 2800 reasons to watch DVDs.

lots of free pr0n on the internet.....

or so i've heard. %-)

191 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:03:08am

You are on the bus when you suddenly realize ... you need to fart.

The music is really loud, so you time your farts with the beat. After
a couple of songs, you start to feel better as you approach your stop.


As you are leaving the bus, people are really staring you down, and that's
when you remember:


You've been listening to your ipod.

192 inquisitive  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:03:13am

3:00 AM...got to try and go to sleep....try...try..try...to forget all this for awhile....will say a pray for all...

193 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:03:44am

This video is NSFI (Not Safe For IslandLibertarian):

194 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:04:13am

re: #190 redc1c4

lots of free pr0n on the internet.....

or so i've heard. %-)

IF you insist. I prefer the real thing, myself.

195 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:05:07am

re: #189 Mel Lono

only when i first wake up in the morning.

straight, with water, you drunken bastard......

@ $10/bottle, Trader Joes is perpetuating a public nuisance.

/we should thank them. %-)

196 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:05:25am

re: #186 logboy

Rush isn't really a private citizen. In any libel/slander suit, he would be considered a public figure and therefore subject to unrestricted criticism/scorn/scutiny. I think he would like that. He's made a great play here.

197 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:05:59am

re: #191 Erik The Red

You are on the bus when you suddenly realize ... you need to fart.

The music is really loud, so you time your farts with the beat. After
a couple of songs, you start to feel better as you approach your stop.

As you are leaving the bus, people are really staring you down, and that's
when you remember:

You've been listening to your ipod.

what's an "ipod"?

198 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:06:53am

re: #186 logboy

So let's say I was listening to Rush Limbaugh when el presidente 0bama walks into the room.....

/Apparently 'Yes: And I'd crank up the volume and rip off the knob' wasn't one of the options...

199 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:07:01am

re: #194 FurryOldGuyJeans

IF you insist. I prefer the real thing, myself.

i have no sex life, one way or the other.

/i'm married

200 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:07:15am

re: #196 Mel Lono

Rush isn't really a private citizen. In any libel/slander suit, he would be considered a public figure and therefore subject to unrestricted criticism/scorn/scutiny. I think he would like that. He's made a great play here.

Legal beagling could go either way, private vs. public. Lawyers make huge contingency fees for stuff like this.

201 Wytnucls  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:07:19am

re: #149 ploome hineni

why assume that all life needs water? Life as we understand it needs water, but there may be other types of intelligent life that we are unable to imagine

Of course, you can let your imagination run wild, but if one accepts the fact that life is not a common event, requiring just the right ingredients to come together in a primordial soup, liquid water is the most likely medium for such occurence.

202 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:08:11am

re: #199 redc1c4

i have no sex life, one way or the other.

/i'm married

My condolences. My ex divorced herself from a steady supply.

203 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:09:35am

re: #201 Wytnucls

Of course, you can let your imagination run wild, but if one accepts the fact that life is not a common event, requiring just the right ingredients to come together in a primordial soup, liquid water is the most likely medium for such occurence.

And can we also assume that Obama's army of unicorns will fart rainbows? That is just as uncommon if not more so.

204 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:10:05am

re: #197 redc1c4

what's an "ipod"?

Don't know. A pod that made Jobs and Apple a fucking fortune?/

205 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:11:10am

re: #197 redc1c4

what's an "ipod"?

A fancy portable 8-track player?

206 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:11:56am

re: #197 redc1c4

what's an "ipod"?

Well, the story really starts back in 2001 . . .

207 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:12:34am

re: #200 FurryOldGuyJeans

Correct. The PTB (powers that B) wrote him off when Pres. Bush was elected, only to see him make the biggest ever media deal for EIB. I don't see his stock falling anytime soon.

208 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:12:50am

This one may cross the line. We shall see.

One day a young man and woman were in their bedroom making love. All of a sudden a bumblebee entered the bedroom window. As the young lady parted her legs the bee entered her vagina.
The woman started screaming "Oh my God, help me, there's a bee in my vagina!"
The husband immediately took her to the local doctor and explained the situation. The doctor thought for a moment and said "Hmm, tricky situation. But I have a solution to the problem if young sir would permit."
The husband being very concerned agreed that the doctor could use whatever method to get the bee out of his wife's vagina. The doctor said "OK, what I'm gonna do is rub some honey over the top of my penis and insert it into your wife's vagina. When I feel the bee getting closer to the tip of my penis I shall withdraw it and the bee should hopefully follow my penis out of your wife's vagina. The husband nodded and gave his approval.
The young lady said "Yes, Yes, whatever, just get on with it."
So the doctor, after covering the tip of his penis with honey, inserted it into the young lady's vagina. After a few gentle strokes, the doctor said, "I don't think the bee has noticed the honey yet. Perhaps I should go a bit deeper."
So the doctor went deeper and deeper. After a while the doctor began shafting the young lady very hard indeed. The young lady began to quiver with excitement. She began to moan and groan aloud. The doctor, concentrating very hard, looked like he was enjoying himself, he then put his hands on the young lady's breasts and started making loud noises.
The husband at this point suddenly became very annoyed and shouted, "Now wait a minute! What the Hell do you think you're doing?"
The doctor, still concentrating, replied, "Change of plan. I'm gonna drown the bastard!"

209 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:12:51am

re: #193 gmsc

Ah yes.... the Japanese and their love of black-face...
as well as very, shall we say 'liberal', TV.

210 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:12:56am

re: #205 FurryOldGuyJeans

A fancy portable 8-track player?

Well, you're close . . .

211 yochanan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:13:48am

re: #186 logboy

[Link: beta.nfb.ca...]

for you logboy

212 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:14:13am

From logboy's link:

The petition comes after Obama warned Republicans on Capitol Hill Friday that they need to quit listening to Limbaugh if they want to get along with Democrats and the new administration.

WTF? Is that supposed to be a not-so-veiled threat? Given how 0bama's first 72 hours in office were intentionally used to jam a thumb into conservatives eyes, I wouldn't want any republican or blue-dog dem to 'get along' with the new administration.

/I'm not even counting half the shit they've been spewing from 2001-2008

213 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:15:14am

re: #210 gmsc

Well, you're close . . .

No hotlinking allowed.

214 logboy  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:16:39am

re: #211 yochanan

[Link: beta.nfb.ca...]

for you logboy

Awesome! Funny, I know some of the people doing the rolling. I also have the song on a CD of loggers songs.

215 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:17:02am

re: #213 FurryOldGuyJeans

No hotlinking allowed.

Try this page.

216 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:17:13am

re: #212 Fenway_Nation

From logboy's link:

WTF? Is that supposed to be a not-so-veiled threat? Given how 0bama's first 72 hours in office were intentionally used to jam a thumb into conservatives eyes, I wouldn't want any republican or blue-dog dem to 'get along' with the new administration.

/I'm not even counting half the shit they've been spewing from 2001-2008

They already are rolling over, waiting for the belly scratch. One Jello GOP Representative has already said the GOP leaders are doing just what is needed, capitulation.

217 yochanan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:18:12am

re: #214 logboy

thought you would like it

218 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:18:16am

re: #188 FurryOldGuyJeans

Shades of Woodrow Wilson and his Espionage Act of 1917 and Sedition Act of 1918. Dissent once again becomes criminal instead of patriotic.

in my mind, dissent is especially patriotic when it's obvious your president isn't patriotic at all.

219 logboy  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:19:34am

re: #217 yochanan

thought you would like it

Makes me miss log rolling. Its a little hard right now with 3 feet of ice on the lakes.

220 Mel Lono  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:19:58am

Uh oh, I feel a song coming on.

221 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:20:07am

re: #218 redc1c4

in my mind, dissent is especially patriotic when it's obvious your president isn't patriotic at all.

"He's not MY President, and never will be."
- Julia Roberts

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
- Howard Zinn

"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic."
- Hillary Clinton

222 yochanan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:21:41am

i remember one aug. when i went to a wood engravers conf. in northern wis in aug when on the local t.v. (greenbay of course) the sports news was half about the packers and half about lumberjack sports.

so i noted to the group the only diff. between what we were doing and them was the size of the tool and that the wood was dry.

223 yochanan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:22:34am

re: #219 logboy

tie a log to a ski mobile

224 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:22:55am

I was being tongue-in-cheek last week when I was counting down the hours until dissent was no longer patriotic. I didn't think the Dems and the new administration would try and make an example out of dissenting opinion in the private sector this quickly....

225 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:24:05am

re: #209 freetoken

Ah yes.... the Japanese and their love of black-face...
as well as very, shall we say 'liberal', TV.

It must be a vastly different culture over there. I remember when Whoopi Goldberg put Ted Danson up to a similar stunt, and both of them got slammed for it!

226 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:25:48am

re: #224 Fenway_Nation

I was being tongue-in-cheek last week when I was counting down the hours until dissent was no longer patriotic. I didn't think the Dems and the new administration would try and make an example out of dissenting opinion in the private sector this quickly....

whereas i just assumed they would, and that it wouldn't be news.

227 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:28:46am

re: #226 redc1c4

i just never assumed i'd kill the thread......

/white smoke

228 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:29:40am

re: #193 gmsc

This video is NSFI (Not Safe For IslandLibertarian):


[Video]

BTW, if you have a YouTube account, please click on the link to this video and flag this video as offensive.

229 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:30:26am

/petioning Congress for a LNDT bailout...... funded and supplied by ATF seizures.

230 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:31:09am

re: #225 gmsc

It must be a vastly different culture over there.

I enjoyed my years over there very much, in great part because of the cultural differences.

Japanese TV is best thought of as about 80% Jerry Lewis and 20% PBS.

231 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:31:41am

S'up, everybody?

Woke up for work here in the far South.

My car has a thick sheet of GlobalWarming™ coating it. I can't get in without breaking things or going through the trunk. —If there is an emergency, I'll use hot water.

I'm not inclined to go to work anyway—the roads are covered with a clear glaze.

232 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:31:47am

re: #228 gmsc

why?

/waiting for it to load

233 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:33:06am

re: #231 David IV of Georgia

S'up, everybody?

Woke up for work here in the far South.

My car has a thick sheet of GlobalWarming™ coating it. I can't get in without breaking things or going through the trunk. —If there is an emergency, I'll use hot water.

I'm not inclined to go to work anyway—the roads are covered with a clear glaze.

sounds like a few days when i was at the Benning School for Boys.....
even the Eskimos in my Platoon said it was cold.
Jan '83

234 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:35:18am

re: #232 redc1c4

why?

/waiting for it to load

It's a Japanese performer working in blackface in order to make fun of the 0bamas.

Hey, I'm all for criticizing their politics when I don't agree with them, but some things just cross the line.

235 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:36:02am

Just about sums up the MFM.

Marines Last Request

News anchor Dan Rather, the Reverend Jesse Jackson, Today Show personality Katie Couric and an American Marine were hiking through the jungle one day when they were captured by cannibals.

They were tied up, led to the village and brought before the chief.

The chief said, "I am familiar with your western custom of granting the condemned a last wish. Before we kill and eat you, do you have any last requests?"

Dan Rather said, "Well, I'm a Texan so I'd like one last bowlful of hot, spicy chili."

The chief nodded to an underling, who left and returned with the chili. Rather ate it all and said, "Now I can die content."

Jesse Jackson said, "You know, the thing in this life I am proudest of is my work on behalf of the poor and oppressed. So before I go, I want to sing "We Shall Overcome" one last time."

The chief said, "Go right ahead, we're listening."

So Jackson sang the song, and then said, "Now I can die in peace."

Katie Couric said, "I'm a reporter to the end. I want to take out my tape recorder and describe the scene here and what's about to happen. Maybe someday someone will hear it and know that I was on the job till the end."

The chief directed an aide to hand over the tape recorder, and Katie dictated some comments. She then said, "Now I can die happy."

The chief turned and said, "And now, Mr. Marine, what is your final wish?"

"Kick me in the ass," said the Marine.

"What?" said the chief. "Will you mock us in your last hour?"

"No, I'm not kidding. I want you to kick me in the ass," insisted the Marine.

So the chief shoved him into the open, and kicked him in the ass. The Marine went sprawling, but rolled to his knees, pulled a 9mm pistol from his waistband, and shot the chief dead.

In the resulting confusion, he leapt to his knapsack, pulled out his M4 carbine, and sprayed the cannibals with gunfire. In a flash, the cannibals were dead or fleeing for their lives.

As the Marine was untying the others, they asked him, "Why didn't you just shoot them? Why did you ask them to kick you in the ass?"

"What!?" said the Marine, "And have all you liberal poopers call ME the aggressor!?"

236 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:36:59am

re: #234 gmsc

Did you see the Japanese black-face Satchmo impersonation, which was linked on a LNDT not long ago?

237 yochanan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:37:09am

re: #233 redc1c4

hey i lived at said school for 4 years it never got chicago cold the natives thought 50 degrees was cold

238 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:38:31am

Do It Yourself - Taliban Style

A large group of Taliban soldiers are moving down a road when they hear a voice call from behind a sand dune....

"One US soldier is better than ten Taliban"

The Taliban commander quickly sends 10 of his best soldiers over the dune, whereupon a gun-battle breaks out and continues for a few minutes then ssilence. The voice then call out.....

"One US soldier is better than one hundred Taliban"

Furious, the Taliban commander sends his next best 100 troops over the dune, and instantly a huge gunfight commences. After 10 minutes of battle, again silence. The voice calls out again....

"One US soldier is better than one thousand Taliban".

The enraged Taliban commander musters one thousand fighters and sends them across the dune. Cannons, rockets and machine gun fire ring out as a huge battle is fought. Then silence.

Eventually one wounded Taliban fighter crawls back over the dune and with his dying words tells his commander..... "Don't send any more men... it's a trap... there's two of them!"...

239 yochanan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:39:20am

re: #235 Erik The Red

heard the same joke with the marine being replaced with a member of the I.D.F

240 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:40:12am

re: #236 freetoken

Did you see the Japanese black-face Satchmo impersonation, which was linked on a LNDT not long ago?

No. I can imagine it, though.

It is still up, or did it get removed?

241 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:40:36am

re: #234 gmsc

Well, I was going to flag it. Unfortunately the option "Bad Taste" wasn't on the list. As well all the other options didn't fit the video. I ended up down rating the video.

242 yochanan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:42:10am

re: #241 BlueCanuck

A CONS. thinks politics should end at the border a liberal doesn't believe in borders.

243 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:42:18am

re: #234 gmsc

It's a Japanese performer working in blackface in order to make fun of the 0bamas.

Hey, I'm all for criticizing their politics when I don't agree with them, but some things just cross the line.

a reasonable person could make an argument that they themselves make a mockery of blacks here in the US.......... and since they are public figures, and because we're not to judge other cultures by our narrow and prejudiced ways, i am incapable of generating any outrage over a legitimate cultural expression. instead, i plan on using the opportunity to grow and gain greater awareness of the world around me and all it has to offer.

244 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:42:31am

re: #238 Erik The Red

There we were three against a thousand. . . . . Toughest three we ever fought.

/ultimate war story to end all war stories.

245 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:43:33am

re: #240 gmsc

It's all over Youtube, as it has attracted quite a bit of attention:

246 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:45:08am

re: #237 yochanan

hey i lived at said school for 4 years it never got chicago cold the natives thought 50 degrees was cold

we had an ice storm that knocked out all power to Harmony Church. we were eating in the mess hall by flashlight, and in bed by dark, with the sleeping bags under the blankets and most of whatwe owned on under that.

stood gurad duty one night for a few hours in the 'teens..... our relief never showed, just the drill who said it was too cold for them to come.

/just not cold enough to pull us off the post. assholes.

247 Scion9  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:46:45am

re: #225 gmsc

It must be a vastly different culture over there. I remember when Whoopi Goldberg put Ted Danson up to a similar stunt, and both of them got slammed for it!

There is no stigma against because it is detached from history for them. There are some portrayals of Chinese and Koreans in American media that I've seen that are 'you can't do that on television' territory in the scope of what is acceptable in Japan though as a counterpoint. It is all a matter of perspective. However, American media is much less Bohemian than Japanese media in general when it comes to 'racism' though.

248 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:53:32am

Fruitcup!.... Get your Fruitcup here! Come on folks, fruitcup for everybody.... it's right over there---------------------------->

(no sense waiting on the ol' lady. %-)


/white smoke

249 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:54:28am

*ahem*!

250 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:55:44am

re: #248 redc1c4
Especially when a cup of Red brand fruit cup puts you in hte perfect mood for an Obama administration. After red's fruit cup is all Rainbows and lolipops.

251 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:56:04am

re: #249 littleoldlady

*ahem*!

frog in your throat or does the cat got your tongue?

/white smoke

252 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:56:13am

re: #248 redc1c4

Fruitcup!.... Get your Fruitcup here! Come on folks, fruitcup for everybody.... it's right over there---------------------------->

(no sense waiting on the ol' lady. %-)

/white smoke

re: #249 littleoldlady

*ahem*!

Uh-oh!

253 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:57:00am

re: #250 Rustler

Especially when a cup of Red brand fruit cup puts you in hte perfect mood for an Obama administration. After red's fruit cup is all Rainbows and lolipops.

them's fightin words mister.

/only *good shit* in my fruitcup.

254 Karridine  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:57:11am

re: #246 redc1c4

Cylinders of ice, 7-inches across, were too much for the powerlines coming up to Topside from Base Camp, on our island on the Korean DMZ, so only a few minutes into our Mids Shift, we were out of power until a feebed-out generator could be coaxed into life...

I was selected for guard duty out in the sleet coming in horizontally from the Yellow Sea, and me standing knee-deep in snow... Couldn't find anybody to spell me more than 10 minutes per hour til dawn, because (quote) "I can't trust THEM to actually stand guard!"

/gee, thanks... circa 1966, Jan

255 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:58:36am

re: #253 redc1c4

them's fightin words mister.

/only *good shit* in my fruitcup.

And red's not kidding, either.

256 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:59:51am

re: #248 redc1c4

Fruitcup!.... Get your Fruitcup here! Come on folks, fruitcup for everybody.... it's right over there---------------------------->

(no sense waiting on the ol' lady. %-)

/white smoke

re: #249 littleoldlady

*ahem*!

...and cue the music...

257 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 1:59:51am
258 Throbert McGee  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:00:09am

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I never said he was right, but if he wants to say Ben Franklin, I wont stop him.

Ben Franklin
Ben Franklin
Ben Franklin

Is it true that if you say that five times in front of a mirror, Ben Franklin will appear and kill you?

(I'm not brave enough to test it...)

259 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:00:14am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

260 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:00:27am

re: #254 Karridine

Cylinders of ice, 7-inches across, were too much for the powerlines coming up to Topside from Base Camp, on our island on the Korean DMZ, so only a few minutes into our Mids Shift, we were out of power until a feebed-out generator could be coaxed into life...

I was selected for guard duty out in the sleet coming in horizontally from the Yellow Sea, and me standing knee-deep in snow... Couldn't find anybody to spell me more than 10 minutes per hour til dawn, because (quote) "I can't trust THEM to actually stand guard!"

/gee, thanks... circa 1966, Jan

sucked to be you......

"unless otherwise controlled, w*rk will flow to the competent person until they submerge."

/or freeze. (good j*b, btw. %-)

261 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:01:09am

re: #253 redc1c4

Mean after eatting it thats all you see the Rainbows and lollipops, sometimes the occasional unicorn dropping off the Rainbows too.

262 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:01:12am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

Thanks!

263 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:01:16am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

late again, i see..............

264 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:01:59am

gmsc! :-)

red! :-)

New computer. Not trained yet... :-/

265 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:02:04am

re: #261 Rustler

Mean after eatting it thats all you see the Rainbows and lollipops, sometimes the occasional unicorn dropping off the Rainbows too.

well, windowpane, maybe......

/4 way!

266 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:02:37am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

Good. Thanks.

Red's fruitcup seems to be sprinkled with oregano.

267 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:02:50am

re: #254 Karridine God winters in Korea were something to behold especially when the sap in smaller trees and branches started freezing.

268 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:03:16am

David! :-)

Oregano is the least of your problems!

/trust me

269 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:03:18am

re: #250 Rustler

Especially when a cup of Red brand fruit cup puts you in hte perfect mood for an Obama administration. After red's fruit cup is all Rainbows and lolipops.

You forgot sunshine:

270 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:03:24am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Thanks littleoldlady. Enjoy the energy boost this time of the morning.

271 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:05:13am
As a young man, Abraham Lincoln went to war a captain and returned a private. Afterwards, he was a failure as a businessman. As a lawyer in Springfield, he was too impractical and temperamental to be a success. He turned to politics and was defeated in his first try for the legislature, again defeated in his first attempt to be nominated for congress, defeated in his application to be commissioner of the General Land Office, defeated in the senatorial election of 1854, defeated in his efforts for the vice-presidency in 1856, and defeated in the senatorial election of 1858. At about that time, he wrote in a letter to a friend, “I am now the most miserable man living. If what I feel were equally distributed to the whole human family, there would not be one cheerful face on the earth.”
Winston Churchill failed sixth grade. He was subsequently defeated in every election for public office until he became Prime Minister at the age of 62. He later wrote, “Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never, Never, Never, Never give up.” (his capitals, mind you)
272 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:06:24am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Fortified with vitamins today!

/honest! it's vitamins! ;-)

273 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:06:29am

Well it's 4AM here and I can't go to work because the roads are glazed.
What's there to do at 4AM besides work?

So all you late risers sit around eating fruitcups, huh?

274 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:07:02am

re: #273 David IV of Georgia

Well it's 4AM here and I can't go to work because the roads are glazed.
What's there to do at 4AM besides work?

So all you late risers sit around eating fruitcups, huh?

Mmmm . . . glazed fruitcup!

275 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:07:39am
Charles Darwin gave up a medical career and was told by his father, “You care for nothing but shooting, dogs and rat catching.” In his autobiography, Darwin wrote, “I was considered by all my masters and my father, a very ordinary boy, rather below the common standard of intellect.” Clearly, he evolved.
Thomas Edison’s teachers said he was “too stupid to learn anything.” He was fired from his first two jobs for being “non-productive.” As an inventor, Edison made 1,000 unsuccessful attempts at inventing the light bulb. When a reporter asked, “How did it feel to fail 1,000 times?” Edison replied, “I didn’t fail 1,000 times. The light bulb was an invention with 1,000 steps.”

I was told it was Americas lack of oppurtunities that was our problem I replied It is a lack of motivation and determination that is the real problem before being called rasist tho I had never mentioned race.

276 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:08:04am

re: #274 gmsc

Mmmm . . . glazed fruitcup!

It's Red's fruitcup that leaves you glazed.

277 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:08:06am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!

Morning lol. Thanks for fruitcup

278 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:08:32am

Morning, littleoldlady! How goes the adoption process?

279 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:08:38am

re: #273 David IV of Georgia

Well it's 4AM here and I can't go to work because the roads are glazed.
What's there to do at 4AM besides work?

So all you late risers sit around eating fruitcups, huh?

don't know about you, but i'm gonna go to bed so i can go out and enjoy the warm sunny day we're gonna start having in a few hours.

/white smoke

280 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:08:38am

Neither Darwin nor Churchill are American but they embody that which used to make America great.

281 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:09:55am

hasta y'all................

L8r!

282 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:10:24am

This would be an awesome thing to Lolcat.

283 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:10:29am

Fruitcup Enterprises

Here at Fruitcup Enterprises (Australian Insurance Division) we're working hard 24 hours a day to bring you the best insurance available.

Well, not really 24 hours a day. People have to sleep you know. I get about six hours a night myself, so I guess that makes it 18 hours a day. And of course, we're not working every second that we're awake. Seriously, people need to commute, and eat, and shower, and all that stuff.

Plus we have to let the cleaners in at some point. Otherwise the place would be a pigsty. You should see what those kids from the creche did in the lunch room the other day. Germs everywhere! GERMS! GERMS! GERMS! Actually, that reminds me, I really should hire some more cleaners.

And of course, sometimes we just need to get away from it all. This place will drive you crazy if you don't escape every now and then. When I think about how my poor father worked himself to death for you people. It just makes me angrier and angrier! Oh, no, I think my angina's playing up again! Ah, God help me! I can't feel my left arm!

But aside from all that, we here at Fruitcup Enterprises are working hard, a good six to eight hours a week, to bring you the best insurance available.

Enjoy our new website,

Garfield Ulysses Fruitcup III
Managing Director

284 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:10:35am

Erik! :-)

Fenway! :-)

I'm all yours!

/...you poor thing, you

285 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:10:38am

re: #281 redc1c4

Later red be safe.

286 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:10:58am

Johann Hari begins packing for 'Re-education 102A - the 10 year package': Why should I respect these oppressive religions?

The right to criticise religion is being slowly doused in acid. Across the world, the small, incremental gains made by secularism – giving us the space to doubt and question and make up our own minds – are being beaten back by belligerent demands that we "respect" religion. A historic marker has just been passed, showing how far we have been shoved. The UN rapporteur who is supposed to be the global guardian of free speech has had his job rewritten – to put him on the side of the religious censors.
[...]
Starting in 1999, a coalition of Islamist tyrants, led by Saudi Arabia, demanded the rules be rewritten. The demand for everyone to be able to think and speak freely failed to "respect" the "unique sensitivities" of the religious, they decided – so they issued an alternative Islamic Declaration of Human Rights. It insisted that you can only speak within "the limits set by the shariah [law]. It is not permitted to spread falsehood or disseminate that which involves encouraging abomination or forsaking the Islamic community".

Morning folks.

287 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:14:05am

re: #283 gmsc

I'll sue!

© Jean Hagen

288 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:14:05am

Night red. Have yourself a good day.

289 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:15:00am

aboo! :-)

Rustler! :-)

Karridine! :-)

290 redc1c4  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:15:28am

re: #280 Rustler

Neither Darwin nor Churchill are American but they embody that which used to make America great.

as opposed to LGF, which still does.

America is still great. it's just that the self appointed sales reps don't like the product....... for all his faults, George did: Only in America

291 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:16:05am

First In Heaven

Little Johnny was sitting in class one day. On this particular day, the teacher wanted to ask her class which part of the body went to heaven first.

One little girl raised her hand and said, "I think your mind goes to heaven first because you have to have a mind in order to believe in God."

The teacher praises the little girl as a little boy raises his hand. He says, "I think your heart goes to heaven first because God is all about love."

"Very good," said the teacher. The teacher looked up and saw Little Johnny's hand up. "Oh no," she thought, "I'm not gonna like this". "Little Johnny, which part of the body do you think goes to heaven first?". Little Johnny thinks for a minute and says, "Your feet." The teacher asked him why he thought your feet go to heaven first.

He replied, "Well, I was walking past my parents' bedroom last night and my mom had her feet up in the air and she said, 'Oh God, I'm coming!', but fortunately Dad was on top of her holding her down."

292 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:16:55am

re: #284 littleoldlady


I thought it was the other way around....

/you poor thing, you

293 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:17:48am

re: #290 redc1c4
America is still great but in decline because the ideals of self reliance and motivation are no longer being taught. Instead our youth are taught to see themselves as victims who are owed.

294 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:19:08am

re: #292 Fenway_Nation

I thought it was the other way around....

/you poor thing, you

Hmmm...maybe we should both rethink this idea.

;-)

295 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:19:48am

I Like Your Thinking

A teacher asks her class, "If there are 5 birds sitting on a fence and you shoot one of them, how many will be left?" She calls on little Johnny.

"None, they all fly away with the first gunshot."

The teacher replies, "The correct answer is 4, but I like your thinking."

Then Little Johnny says, "I have a question for YOU. There are three women sitting on a bench having ice cream. One is delicately licking the sides of the triple scoop of ice cream. The second is gobbling down the top and sucking the cone. The third is biting off the top of the ice cream. Which one is married?"

The teacher, blushing a great deal, replies, "Well I suppose the one that's gobbled down the top and sucked the cone."

"The correct answer is the one with the wedding ring on... but I like your thinking."

296 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:21:33am

re: #293 Rustler

Not to mention discouraged from all that heavy thinking which hurt brain bad.....

...that way they can make room for all that celeb tabloid gossip so prevalent in their heads.

/fuck consequences....just go with your feelings

297 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:22:10am

re: #293 Rustler

America is still great but in decline because the ideals of self reliance and motivation are no longer being taught. Instead our youth are taught to see themselves as victims who are owed.

Move Out of My Way!

Get out of your own way. Stop holding on to policies, ideas and behaviors that don't work. If you're happy, then fine. But if you're unhappy, this is an indicaiton that you're in your own way. The biggest single mistake people make when they start to feel unhappy is assuming someone or something else is doing this to them. While others certainly can contribute to your unhappiness, they cannot (short of kidnapping or physically restraining you) be the CAUSE of it. If you're basically free, then the cause of your unhappiness, you can be sure, lies within yourself. This is glorious news! It means you have the power to change it. Blaming others is the worst thing you can do to yourself. By blaming others, you place yourself in permanent victim status. Victims are dependent. They are subject to the parasitism of those who "help" and "aid" (translation: control) them. This is no place to be, and only makes a bad situation worse. Get out of your own way. Start by showing yourself how you are NOT the victim of anyone except for yourself. You can start changing this right now.

298 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:23:55am

re: #259 littleoldlady

... the authentic is so much better...

299 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:24:05am

re: #275 Rustler

I was told it was Americas lack of oppurtunities that was our problem I replied It is a lack of motivation and determination that is the real problem before being called rasist tho I had never mentioned race.

I heard a black preacher tell this story:

There was a black community in Louisiana with usual problems of unemployment and hardship. In the middle of the community was a run-down store up for lease. A Vietnamese man saw the store, found out who the owner was, and made him an offer: Let me clean up and lease your building for free for 6 months and after that I will pay you your price. As it is, the building's just falling apart.

The owner agreed. The Vietnamese man scrounged up some cookware and opened a restaurant. With many of his family helping began working 14 to 18 hour days, after 6 months, he began paying rent. After 2 years he opened another restaurant. The unemployed neighbors still complain that there are no opportunities or jobs...

300 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:26:14am

freetoken! :-)

301 Render  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:35:46am

I kept a Word page of all the Gaza cam links that I could find.

Periodically, (at least once a day) I run through those links, just to see what's on them.

Most of them are dead, and have been since the IDF's cease-fire. A couple show a feed page from Channel 2 or Channel 10, but I've yet to see anything but those test pages.

Two of them still show the Israeli MOD's stationary cameras at one of the crossing points into the Gaza Strip. I believe it's the Karni crossing point, but I'm not sure. Every day those two cameras show long convoy's of heavy trucks going into the Gaza Strip loaded and returning empty.

[Link: switch3.castup.net...]

EVERY
DAY,
R

302 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:39:23am

American military force against Iran remains an option, though it would be a "last resort," - one which may be pursued after the successful terraforming and colonization of planets in galaxy Abell 1835 IR1916, located some 13,230 million light-years away.

Is it morning whack-a-you-head and prayer time yet?

303 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:41:22am

LittleOldLady! A slow loris is eating my fruitcup!

304 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:42:21am

re: #302 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

American military force against Iran remains an option, though it would be a "last resort," - one which may be pursued after the successful terraforming and colonization of planets in galaxy Abell 1835 IR1916, located some 13,230 million light-years away.

Is it morning whack-a-you-head and prayer time yet?

Isn't war always a "last resort", even when it is also the "first resort"?

305 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:42:40am

re: #301 Render

Those racist Israeli Nazis have turned Gaza into a a concentration camp, starving the boor Balestinian beoble with their apartheid occupayshun!

/did I leave anything out?

306 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:43:26am

re: #303 gmsc

What the heck is that?!

/another Darwin thread? ;-)

307 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:44:33am

re: #306 littleoldlady

What the heck is that?!

/another Darwin thread? ;-)

Click on the link! It's a slow loris!

/It didn't start out as a Darwin thread, but it could evolve into one!

308 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:46:17am

re: #307 gmsc

Grandma! What big eyes you have!

309 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:48:36am

re: #308 littleoldlady

Grandma! What big eyes you have!

Get ready to smack me after you click this link!

310 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:49:54am

BBIAB Security and all that jazz.

311 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:51:11am

re: #309 gmsc

*sniff!*

312 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:52:51am

re: #311 littleoldlady

If you want, I can dig up Mandys' clue-by-four if you want?

313 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:53:15am

re: #311 littleoldlady

*sniff!*

There, there. (Gives upding of comfort.)

{littleoldlady}

314 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:55:40am

Some choice: littleoldlady or dead.

/i can haz fountain of youth? ;-)

315 akak  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:56:55am

re: #301 Render

Reminds me of what was on muqata blog yesterday.

Israel has notified Egypt of some shipping containers full of arms headed for Gaza (different than the ones from Iranian boat) - won't hear it on MSM of course.

316 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:58:59am

re: #314 littleoldlady

Some choice: littleoldlady or dead.

/i can haz fountain of youth? ;-)

You'll have to talk to David Copperfield about that.

317 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 2:59:19am

re: #314 littleoldlady

Some choice: littleoldlady or dead.

/i can haz fountain of youth? ;-)

Talk to zombie. There may be a third option.

318 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:04:00am

w00t! All done with my taxes!

/A little different than having the finance pogues do them for me. Hope my math ain't too far off.

319 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:08:02am

re: #316 gmsc

Hmmm...wonder if we're related? ;-)

re: #317 David IV of Georgia

Okay...littleoldlady/zombie/dead
/which is the lesser of three evils?

re: #318 Fenway_Nation

TurboTax!

320 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:12:00am

re: #319 littleoldlady


I do all my own fiscal stunts.

321 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:15:55am

re: #320 Fenway_Nation

I do all my own fiscal stunts.

Don't you mean "physical"?

You need to understand the the impotence of proofreading:

322 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:16:16am

re: #320 Fenway_Nation

Is that wise? Who do you blame when you make an ...um...error...and forget to pay thousands of dollars in taxes?

/well at least now we know why you don't have a cushy government job

323 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:19:56am

re: #321 gmsc

HILARIOUS! :-)

/save it for goddess!

324 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:20:02am

re: #322 littleoldlady

Is that wise? Who do you blame when you make an ...um...error...and forget to pay thousands of dollars in taxes?


Well. clearly it's my accountant's fault.
I had no intention of defrauding the government.

Morning all!

325 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:20:27am

re: #322 littleoldlady


/well at least now we know why you don't have a cushy government job

Shhh....I'm trying to get a cushy government job :P

326 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:21:22am

re: #320 Fenway_Nation Careful I hear Geihtner did his own Fiscal stunts to you don't want to end up as Sec Treas or anything like that.

327 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:22:18am

re: #325 Fenway_Nation

Shhh....I'm trying to get a cushy government job :P

Sorry, you will be denied. You sound far too competent to work in that enviroment.

/really? No not really sarc. . . . . .

328 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:22:34am

re: #324 Jim in Virginia

{My Rove}!

Intention is the Mother of Invention

/or something...
//tfk mode off

329 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:22:46am

re: #309 gmsc

Get ready to smack me after you click this link!

WHACK!
Doing the jobs Americans littleoldlady won't do.

330 gmsc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:23:37am

Well, it's gettin' to be 3:30 out here, so I'm off to sleep.

Good night, all!

331 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:24:28am

re: #321 gmsc

Sounds like my inglish and speeling.

332 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:24:55am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

/it's 6:30ish and it's (whaddayaknow!) schnoeing in Philadelphia...

333 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:26:39am

re: #329 Jim in Virginia

Thank yew! :-)

334 yesandno  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:27:56am

re: #6 logboy

Obama Inauguration Speech Ruined By Incessant Jackhammering

From what I heard, the jackhammering would have been an improvement....

bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.....something even I can agree with...

LOL

335 Render  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:28:49am

re: #332 littleoldlady

Ice breaking here in the Peoples Democratic Republicistan.

OW
OW
OW,
R

336 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:30:28am

re: #335 Render

RENDER! :-)

We're getting ice after the snow.

/plus sleet and freezing rain
//full monty
///FEH!

337 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:32:37am

re: #336 littleoldlady

Well we have a snow advisory up here as well. Expecting 15 cm (or 6 inches for you non metric people). Nice big storm moving on through.

338 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:34:29am

re: #337 BlueCanuck

Whose idea was this, anyway!? :-)

339 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:36:14am

Good Morning LGF.

340 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:38:01am

Spare O'Lake! :-)

341 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:40:58am

Morning Spare O'Lake

342 Render  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:41:03am

re: #338 littleoldlady

I think this was supposed to be the inauguration surprise from the GOP weather machine.

As per usual, without Lord Rove at the helm, the GOP is a week short and a hundred miles north of the target. Or just plain short and weak...

===

I keep thinking about TR and the Bull Moose Party - and then remembering that that led to Wilson...

NEVER
MIND,
R

343 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:42:57am

re: #340 littleoldlady

"There's a load of snew on the ground."

"What's snew?"

"Not much - what's new with you?

- channeling corny old snow joke.

344 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:44:07am

re: #343 Spare O'Lake

Please, change the channel then.

345 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:46:00am

re: #342 Render

There's GOT to be a better way... :-/

346 Render  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:48:07am

re: #345 littleoldlady

...and Perot led to Clinton. Strike two. Do we go down swinging or hope for a walk?

SHOOT
THE
MOON,
R

347 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:50:43am

re: #343 Spare O'Lake

ERIK! Come back! All is forgiven...

;-)

348 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:50:47am

re: #346 Render Swing away.

349 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:51:29am

re: #347 littleoldlady

ERIK! Come back! All is forgiven...

;-)

Working and lurking.

350 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:51:59am

re: #348 Rustler

Swing away.

Step into the pitch and take it like a man//

351 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:58:40am

This Texan ponders, "Where did I leave my ice cleats?"

I wonder if anyone went to work today.

352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:59:10am

I heard a wonderful quote last weekend. Don't remember who said it, can't recall the quote. But it was wonderful.

353 jcbunga  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:59:12am

Good morning.

What do you do with an Elephant with 3 balls?
*
*
*
Walk him and pitch to the Giraffe.

Ice and snow in Northern Virginia. This is not helpful.

354 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:59:38am

re: #351 David IV of Georgia

I keep hearing of these ice storms. I hope™ that we don't get that stuff up here.

/invest in some crampons. work better.

355 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 3:59:56am

It's a nice balmy 12 degrees F here today thank Al Gore for Gorebull warming or the thermometer would just be an icicle.

re: #351 David IV of Georgia

356 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:00:07am

re: #352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Tease.

357 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:00:40am

re: #352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can see it really made a lasting Impression on ya FBV.

358 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:00:59am

For six years, the young attorney had worked incredibly long hours in his quest to make partner, and had taken only brief respites at a nearby country inn. During his last, brief visit, he had a moment of passion with the innkeeper's daughter.

Having done little but stare at the walls of his office since then, he looked forward to his next trip to the inn, in the hope that they could pick up where they left off.

Finally, he had another chance to take a couple of days off. Excited, he hauled his suitcase up the stairs of the inn, then stopped short. There sat his lover with an infant on her lap!

"Why didn't you call me when you learned you were pregnant?" he asked. "You know I would have have done the right thing -- we could have been married. I would be a good provider."

"Well," she said, "when my folks found out about my condition, we sat up all night talkin' and talkin' and decided it would be better to have a bastard in the family than a lawyer."

359 Crux Australis  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:01:51am

They thought Australia was heaven with Kevin '07 but Australia will decline under Kevin '09.

lol, sad but true

(You have to be familiar with the 2007 Australian election campaign to get this)

360 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:03:30am

re: #359 Crux Australis
At least they didn't compare Supreme Chancellor Rudd to both the Messiah and to Mecca(by calling the trip to his coronation as God-king a hajj).

361 jcbunga  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:04:03am

re: #359 Crux Australis

They thought Australia was heaven with Kevin '07 but Australia will decline under Kevin '09.

lol, sad but true

(You have to be familiar with the 2007 Australian election campaign to get this)

I e-mailed John Howard a couple years ago praising his support of the war, and I got a hand-written letter in return.

362 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:04:05am

Father, how am I going to tell my husband that I am still a virgin?"

"My child, you have been a married woman for many years. You have had three husbands! Surely that cannot be."

"Well, father, my first husband was a psychologist, and all he wanted to do was talk, and the next one was in construction and he always said he'd get to it tomorrow. The last one was a gynecologist and all he did was look. But this time, father, I'm marrying a lawyer and I'm sure I'm going to get screwed."

363 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:05:12am

re: #347 littleoldlady

Sleighbells ringing, are you listening?
In the lane the snow is glistening,

"BAM!"

364 Rune  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:05:18am

It’s everyday for Obama. Iran demands that he apologise to Iran for past grievances. For amongst other thing trying to interfere with Iran’s "peaceful" nuclear program, and some actions following the Islamic revolution in 79 (must be apologise for being taken hostage perhaps?)
Ahmadinejad demands US apology

..and perhaps they think he should apologise for being a "Black Satan" also:

During Friday prayers he led in Mashhad, Iran, Iranian preacher Ahmad Alem Al-Hoda declared that U.S. president-elect Barack Obama is a "black Satan" and that therefore he should be given no credit.

He said that "there is no difference between a black Satan and a white Satan," because the U.S. was acting to topple the Iranian regime by means of a velvet revolution.

Iranian Preacher: Obama – 'Black Satan

365 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:06:40am

re: #363 Spare O'Lake
Lil old lady got runned over by a Unicorn. Walking away from the news on Obama eve. You can believe there's no such thing as hope now. But as for me and tall old man we believe.

366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:07:13am

re: #363 Spare O'Lake

In the lane the snow is glistening,

"BAM!"

A Beautiful Sight...bzzzzzzzzz
We're happy tonight...oomph!

367 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:07:45am

Driving yesterday on 285 in Atlanta and a cop had a woman pulled over writing a ticket
Saw Obama ? Biden stickers
No big thing but it did make my day
/:)

368 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:08:39am

re: #367 ThinkRight

He only pulled her over to inform her the Stickers were fading.

369 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:09:22am

Heaven Getting Crowded
One day, a teacher, a garbage collector, and a lawyer all died and went to heaven.
St. Peter was there, having a bad day because heaven was getting crowded. When they got to the gate, St. Peter informed them that there would be a test to get into Heaven: They each had to answer a single question.
To the teacher, he said, "What was the name of the ship that crashed into an iceberg and sunk with all its passengers?"
The teacher thought for a second, and then replied: "That would have been the Titanic, right?" St. Peter let him through the gate.
Next, St. Peter turned to the garbage man, and figuring that heaven didn’t really need all the stink that this guy would bring in, decided to make the question a little harder. "How many people died on the ship?"
The garbage man guessed 1228, to which St. Peter said, "That happens to be right. Go ahead."
St. Peter then turned to the lawyer. "What were their names?"

370 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:09:49am

Hey Crux you know what Obama and Rudd talked about yesterday? Columbia was about the war on drugs but didn't hear what went on with Rudd.

371 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:11:24am

re: #352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I heard a wonderful quote last weekend. Don't remember who said it, can't recall the quote. But it was wonderful.

Yeah, I heard that one too, it was one of those really memorable ones.

372 Crux Australis  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:12:01am

re: #361 jcbunga

I e-mailed John Howard a couple years ago praising his support of the war, and I got a hand-written letter in return.

I used to work in a MPs office so I'm not surprised by this. Do American pollies do this?

373 Render  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:12:02am

I keep digging around in the old bag of bats, looking for a new homerun slugger.

All I can find so far is...

Michael S. Steele

If there was anybody left on base, I might call for a bunt.

ALAS,
R

374 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:13:54am

re: #354 BlueCanuck

I keep hearing of these ice storms. I hope™ that we don't get that stuff up here.

/invest in some crampons. work better.

Found them.

They are actually YakTrax™.

Went walking around the block.

Saw a few people go out look at everything glazed and then go back inside.

Snow is much better. You can drive on snow.

375 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:15:37am

I think I'll turn on the radio and listen to how many sand and salt trucks have wrecked and overturned....

376 littleoldlady  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:16:12am

Okie dokie...the snow is coated with ice, and we just had a "brown out". Pray for me. If we lose power...

/oy! oy! oy! :-(

Good day, ALL!™

377 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:16:58am

You May be a Racist if..

1. If you have ever chuckled at his middle name, you may be guilty of racist Obama jokes.

2. If you ever ridiculed the assertion that tire gauges lower gas prices, you may be guilty of racist Obama jokes.

3. If you ever laughed at the claim that he campaigned in 57 states, you may be guilty of racist Obama jokes.

4. If you ever suggested that the "Vero Possemus" campaign signs had something to do with possums, you may be guilty of racist Obama jokes.

5. If you ever downloaded the video of him bowling a 37 in front of reporters, you may be guilty of racist Obama jokes.

6. If you ever shared the video comparing him to Paris Hilton, you may be guilty of racist Obama jokes.

7. If you ever cracked wise about his cocaine use, you may be guilty of racist Obama jokes. (Joking about Dubya's alleged cocaine use is politically correct.)

8. If you ever made fun of his big ears, you may be guilty of Obama jokes. (Joking about Perot's big ears is politically correct.)

9. If you ever said that the look on his wife's face could curdle fresh milk, you may be guilty of racist Obama jokes. (Joking about Cindy McCain's face is politically correct.)

10. If you ever noted that his pastor acted like he was on Def Comedy Jam, you may be guilty of racist Obama jokes.

*********************

378 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:17:15am

re: #376 littleoldlady

Bye littleoldlady. I hope you don't lose power today.

379 Crux Australis  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:17:28am

re: #370 Rustler

Hey Crux you know what Obama and Rudd talked about yesterday? Columbia was about the war on drugs but didn't hear what went on with Rudd.

I have no idea. All I know is that it was the first phone call Obama has made to an east-asian/pacific nation's leader. Before China, Japan or India. Glad to know that Australia is still a priority no matter who is in the White House.

380 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:17:59am

re: #376 littleoldlady
Start the Blanket pile for the inevitable Lil. And find the candles now at least you can sit under 20 pounds of blankets staring at the candle flame when the inevitable power failure comes around. Ice storms are really good when it comes to bringing down power lines.

381 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:20:46am

re: #379 Crux Australis
Meh most of his initial phonecalls have been to fellows in the Fratenal Order of Socialists. Rudd just happened to be the first out that way because Obama must have had a question about all the Conservative heat he is getting so needed Rudd's advice on dealing with the right.

382 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:23:10am

re: #380 Rustler

Start the Blanket pile for the inevitable Lil. And find the candles now at least you can sit under 20 pounds of blankets staring at the candle flame when the inevitable power failure comes around. Ice storms are really good when it comes to bringing down power lines.

They say shivering is a good thing./

383 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:23:15am

There are the Senate Republicans that voted to confirm Geithner.

Corker (R-TN) -[no phone numbers allowed]
Cornyn (R-TX) -[no phone numbers allowed]
Crapo (R-ID) -[no phone numbers allowed]
Ensign (R-NV) -[no phone numbers allowed]
Graham (R-SC) -[no phone numbers allowed]
Gregg (R-NH) -[no phone numbers allowed]
Hatch (R-UT) -[no phone numbers allowed]
Shelby (R-AL) -[no phone numbers allowed]
Snowe (R-ME) -[no phone numbers allowed]
Voinovich (R-OH) -[no phone numbers allowed]
Obama's Bitches

384 WhiteRasta  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:23:38am

One day, the teacher asked her class 'What vegetable makes you cry?'

Little Johnny replies "a turnip".

"No Johnny' says the teacher, "Onions make you cry, not turnips"

"No Miss" Says Johnny, "Have you never been hit in the balls with a turnip?"

385 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:24:02am

re: #377 Erik The Red

10 of 10 means I'm not racist, right?

386 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:24:34am

Why does Grahamnesty not surprise me.re: #383 ThinkRight

387 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:25:37am

Good morning.

In market news the futures are up significantly, about 2% at the moment. The Nikkei was up fractionally overnight and the Hang Seng was down fractionally.

Apparently the jump in the futures is due to the growing perception that the Fed's are going to take the "Bad Bank" option instead of nationalize the banks. Nationalizing the banks would have lead to zeroing out shareholders equity and the common stock would have been worthless.

In the mean time Obama is scrambling to get Republican votes for his stimulus plan.

Given that Obama can get his stimulus bill passed without a single Republican yes vote and sign it into law, I wonder why he is looking for Republican votes. If this bill is such a good idea, why is he looking for political cover from the opposition. Why does he not just put it through and own it and claim the credit?

388 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:26:03am

re: #377 Erik The Red

8. If you ever made fun of his big ears, you may be guilty of Obama jokes. (Joking about Perot's big ears is politically correct.)

Still counts even tho he made the jokes himself? Nm that's right Double standards it is ok fo rhim to make fun of his own ears because they are his.

389 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:26:52am

re: #387 3 wood

Because he wants to share the wealth, of pain, if it doesn't work the way he says it will.

390 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:27:32am

USA Today - Secret World of Snuggies "the crazy comforter with sleeves is a cult phenom"........ you heard it here first! Hiya lizards!

391 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:28:06am

re: #390 apachegunner Yeah they have a webpage for Snuggie pics now. And a Snuggy drinking game too.

392 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:28:50am

re: #390 apachegunner

USA Today - Secret World of Snuggies "the crazy comforter with sleeves is a cult phenom"........ you heard it here first! Hiya lizards!


Obama has competition ?
/

393 WhiteRasta  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:29:21am

"Johnny, please give the class a sentence with the word, contagious in it."

"Yesterday, my dad and I were watching the neighbor paint his roof.

My dad said, 'look Johnny, it's going to take that contagious to paint that roof with such a small brush."

394 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:31:09am

"Always keep a trash bag in your car. It doesn't take up much room; and when it gets full, you can just toss it out the window."

-Steve Martin

395 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:32:06am

10-20 inches off Gorebull warming headed to the NE according to CNN.

396 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:32:10am

re: #391 Rustler

Yeah they have a webpage for Snuggie pics now. And a Snuggy drinking game too.


hope they go on sale soon, I need several

397 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:32:46am

re: #396 apachegunner
Yep getting my hands out from under the blanket is such a hassle.

398 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:33:22am

re: #397 Rustler

Yep getting my hands out from under the blanket is such a hassle.


heh, what are ya hands doing under there anyway?

399 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:34:04am

re: #398 apachegunner

heh, what are ya hands doing under there anyway?

Probably keeping. . . .other things. . . warm.

400 tappin52  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:34:28am

re: #372 Crux Australis

No. They couldn't possibly be expected to respond to a single citizen when they are so busy picking his pocket.

401 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:36:08am

re: #398 apachegunner
You probaly don't want to ask but the blanket is getting a bit slimy.

402 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:36:34am

re: #401 Rustler

You probaly don't want to ask but the blanket is getting a bit slimy.


ewwwwwwwwwwww

403 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:36:38am

re: #395 Rustler

10-20 inches off Gorebull warming headed to the NE according to CNN.

IT'S NOT WRONG JUST BECAUSE AL GORE SAYS IT

404 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:37:57am

re: #387 3 wood

Why does he not just put it through and own it and claim the credit?

Possibly because to get some of his agenda through the Senate he will need various Senate allies?

405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:38:22am

We were laughing at the Snuggie...just laughing, having our little joke....

They've sold four million of the damn things.

406 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:38:40am

hiya Eric how ya doing?

407 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:39:00am

No Dinnerjacket wants apologies from Obama bascially for the US being in existance.

Ahmadinejad Demands Apology for U.S. 'Crimes'

TEHRAN, Iran — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for "profound changes" in U.S. foreign policy, including giving up support for Israel on Wednesday during an address to thousands of people in the western city of Kermanshah.

President Obama on Tuesday, in an interview with Arabic television, called for more dialogue with Iran to express difference and see "where there are potential avenues for progress."

"We welcome change but on condition that change is fundamental and on the right track," Ahmadinejad said. "When they say 'we want to make changes', change can happen in two ways. First is a fundamental and effective change... The second ... is a change of tactics."

Ahmadinejad also demanded the U.S. apologize for 'crimes' committed against Iran; specifically, criticizing and trying to block their nuclear program.

"Those who say they want to make change, this is the change they should make: they should apologize to the Iranian nation and try to make up for their dark background and the crimes they have committed against the Iranian nation," Ahmadinejad said.


Sounds like Dinnerjacket has all kinds of preconditions for opening the dialogue with the US that Obama wants so much

I would not be a bit surprised if Obama does it.

Obama needs to stop worrying about Rush Limbaugh and start focusing on dealing with the nasty dictators of the world. But of course, lefties like Obama see the real enemy as being the US and the right.

408 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:39:16am

re: #405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We were laughing at the Snuggie...just laughing, having our little joke....

They've sold four million of the damn things.


yes, and Rustler needs another :>)

409 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:40:05am

re: #401 Rustler

You probaly don't want to ask but the blanket is getting a bit slimy.

TMI Rustler

410 tappin52  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:40:22am

Does anyone know if Fenwayzuela is on the map yet? I need a vacation.

411 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:40:45am

re: #410 tappin52

Does anyone know if Fenwayzuela is on the map yet? I need a vacation.


is that near Boston?

412 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:40:54am

re: #406 apachegunner

hiya Eric how ya doing?

Good apache and a hell of a lot warmer than you.

413 tappin52  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:41:42am

It might be............maybe that's not a good place to go just now.

414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:41:50am

re: #403 freetoken

That is not an awful article. I do take parts of the climate stuff seriously.

415 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:42:10am

Like any experienced Chicago politician, Obama would go the cemetary to register voters. One night he came across a grave so old and worn that he couldn't make out the name on the tombstone. The staffer holding the flashlight got impatient and suggested they just move on to the next plot. Obama angrily exclaimed, "This person has a much right to vote as anyone else here!"

416 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:42:28am

re: #412 Erik The Red

Good apache and a hell of a lot warmer than you.

hey it's 71 degrees today in SC. two more days and I'll be in the carribean anyway! glad your warm partner.

417 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:43:17am

re: #403 freetoken

In the 1960s, the Party of Lincoln squandered its historic civil rights legacy and now struggles to regain even a small sliver of the black vote. Today, the Party of TR is poised to turn over the green vote completely, but it doesn’t have to be that way. Our Nation’s most important conservationist Presidents were both Republicans: Teddy Roosevelt and Richard Nixon. Nixon delivered a national televised address on the environment, the first ever by an American president on the subject.

WTF the Party of Lincoln struggles to retin the black vote because of outright lies perpetrated by the Party of Nathan Bedford Forrest. Teddy's push for conservation was driven by his love of the outdoors something many Republican hunters share, because it is something we want our children to be able to enjoy. Dem's green agenda will lead to much worse problems for the country. Doesn't anyone look to the last few years being California's worst for serious fires.

418 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:43:55am

Bill Clinton said, “I didn’t inhale.”
Barack Obama says, “I didn’t inject.”

Richard Nixon said “I am not a crook!”
Barack Obama says “I am not on crack!”

Harry Truman said, “The buck stops here!”
Barack Obama says, “Leave the bucks here!”

Anagrams
President Barack Obama = Arab base, pink Democrat
President Barack Hussein Obama = A Democrat speaks inane rubbish

419 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:44:18am

re: #407 3 wood


'Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for "profound changes"'

I wonder if President Obama would consider changing the policy to "the removal of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad".

420 gregg  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:46:18am

Victor Davis Hanson, as always, worth reading:

If anyone wished to know what the baby-boomer generation would do when, in its full maturity, it hit its first self-created, big-time recession, I think we are seeing the hysterical results. After two decades of unprecedented economic growth, rampant consumer spending, and unimaginable borrowing to satisfy our insatiable appetites, we are suddenly going into even larger debt and printing trillions of dollars in paper money to ensure that someone else after we are gone pays the debt. As if the permanent solution to a financial panic and years of spending wealth we didn't create were a government take-over of the economy in the manner we currently witness in Spain, Italy, and Greece—or the high-tax, high-spend ethos of a bankrupt California.

The reaction to the economic panic was sort of analogous to the call to 'charge it!' after 9/11 (cf. Ike's fights about the surtax to pay for Korea), or to the Iraq 2006 upsurge in violence, when suddenly our leaders declared the war lost, blamed the nebulous "they" for tricking them into voting for the war, and calling for immediate withdrawals and retreats. Ditto the Stalag-Gulag Guantanamo that, by January 19, had ruined the Constitution, shredded the Bill of Rights, and forever tarnished our reputation. Yet, on the 20th, it was suddenly complex and problematic, and required a "task force" to do a year-long inquiry into the bad and worse choices confronting us. At some point in all this serial hysteria, we are beginning to see the problem is not in the stars of the economy or of the war, but in ourselves—a weird generation that, when it finally came of age, proved to be just about what we could expect of it from what we saw in its youth.

421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:46:33am

re: #407 3 wood

Mornin' Wood!

422 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:47:35am

re: #419 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Only in the vein of renaming him Caliph of the New Persian empire. After which Mahmoud will change his name to Xerxes and attempt to conquer Israel where he will be turned back by 600 members of the IDF in the Golan Heights.

423 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:48:36am

re: #421 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
TMI the FBV.//

424 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:51:44am
“Nature's regulatory instrument is water vapor: more carbon dioxide leads to less moisture in the air, keeping the overall GHG content in accord with the necessary balance conditions.” – Prominent Hungarian Physicist and environmental researcher Dr. Miklós Zágoni reversed his view of man-made warming and is now a skeptic. Zágoni was once Hungary’s most outspoken supporter of the Kyoto Protocol. -- “For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden. -- "Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.
425 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:51:58am

re: #422 Rustler

Only in the vein of renaming him Caliph of the New Persian empire. After which Mahmoud will change his name to Xerxes and attempt to conquer Israel where he will be turned back by 600 members of the IDF in the Golan Heights.

Just King David and Prince Jonathan > 200 Philistines

600 vs. Iran would be overkill.

426 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:52:56am

re: #425 David IV of Georgia

It won't just be Iran Obama will help Mahmoud rreform the Caliphate of old.

427 David IV of Georgia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:54:27am

re: #426 Rustler

It won't just be Iran Obama will help Mahmoud rreform the Caliphate of old.

Yeah, I forgot the Benedict Arnold angle.

428 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:55:43am

re: #424 Rustler

Are those quotes from either the publication put out by Inhofe's office, or the Heartland Institute? Usually linkages are better than abandoned quotes.

429 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:56:35am
"Let's be clear: the work of science has nothing whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the business of politics. Science, on the contrary, requires only one investigator who happens to be right, which means that he or she has results that are verifiable by reference to the real world. In science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in history are great precisely because they broke with the consensus..." - Michael Crichton, A.B. Anthropology, M.D. Harvard

In reference to Al Gorebull warming's consensus of scientists supporting AGW.

430 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:57:35am

re: #428 freetoken
They are responces someone posted in the Just cause gore said it it's not wrong article was no links think they are from publications.

431 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:58:08am

Good Morning Lizards!

432 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:58:23am

re: #431 Jetpilot1101 Morning JP.

433 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:58:52am

re: #428 freetoken I would have perferred having linkies to go with em :).

434 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 4:59:02am

re: #431 Jetpilot1101

Good Morning Lizards!

Morning Jp.

435 VioletTiger  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:02:46am

re: #31 Sharmuta

Obama's National Security Adviser: Winnie the Pooh


Holy crap, you weren't kidding!

436 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:06:04am

Good morning Lizards. Day nine, America held hostage!

437 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:08:21am

re: #436 opnion

Good morning Lizards. Day nine, America held hostage!


coming soon, double digits

438 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:08:34am

Bidenville I mean Scranton seems to be getting the worst of this storm. Just had the weather map Scranton area is far darker than rest.

439 VioletTiger  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:08:58am

re: #383 ThinkRight

Thanks for posting this. I am just outraged that this tax-cheat Geithner is now treasury sec. He knew he had to pay this tax, his company wrote him letters telling him he had to, and they even gave him the money for it. When he got caught, he only paid back two years because of the statute of limitations. If your senator voted for him, let him or her know how you feel about it.

440 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:09:00am

re: #437 apachegunner

coming soon, double digits

He is gonna be hopen on one leg soon.

441 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:10:38am

re: #429 Rustler

One reason I posted the link to the NewMajority site was because I thought the author broached an important issue - that is, that somehow the Gore-bashers have somehow convinced themselves that the fate of Gore and the fate of Climatology are irrevocably linked. They are not; the understanding of climate has progressed quite well without Al Gore, and will continue to do so when he is gone.

As for the supposed list of scientists... most of the activist-deniers lift quotes from one of two sources, either that provided from a document produced by Sen. Inhofe's office, or one produced (or distributed at least) by the Heartland Institute. In both case, said efforts are full of holes and have been found (rather easily too) to be disingenuous. There are some other lists that pop up here and there around the internet, but the two I mentioned are the usual culprits.

Another reason I linked to the NewMajority site is that I am happy to see that there are people out there, self described Republicans, and even some self described "conservatives", that are willing to look freshly at science and their development of policies and political positions in reaction to scientific developments.

The problem of lifting quotes from supposed scientists is that the method itself is simply one of appeal to authority. Appeal to authority is fallacious unless one has good cause to believe the Authority indeed is the most credible source of data on the subject.

442 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:10:47am

1087 days of Obama left.

443 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:10:48am

re: #437 apachegunner

coming soon, double digits

Depressing ain't it?

444 freetoken  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:12:41am

And with that little sermon I must say goodnight... too late as it is... too many blogs, too little time.

445 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:13:20am

re: #442 Rustler

1087 days of Obama left.

Maybe we could ask Charles to put a count down clock on the side bar.

446 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:14:38am

re: #445 Erik The Red

Maybe we could ask Charles to put a count down clock on the side bar.

Exxxxcelet, Smithers!

447 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:15:24am

re: #441 freetoken

I don't believe in Man made Gorebull warming. If the the title of the article speaks to you, you should also concider that the converse holds true. Just because Al Gore said it doesn't make it true. The science behind globull warming has had sufficient holes poked in it by credible peer reviewed scientist's that most in the know now only refer to it as global Climate change not warming. Changes in temperature are something driven by natural processes. The worst we can do is make the world uninhabitable to ourselves life will go on.

448 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:17:59am

I use Gore's name in Climatological debate because just like the "internet" Globull warming is his baby. I can go about searching for the exact reference material those quotes were pulled from if you truely wish, but then again if it was that important to you, you could likewise look it up.

449 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:18:07am

re: #446 opnion

Exxxxcelet, Smithers!

Would help you out.

450 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:19:12am

re: #442 Rustler

1087 days of Obama left.


That is 1086 too many

451 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:20:02am

re: #449 Erik The Red

Would help you out.

Yup, I'm almost half way through my digits. After that I will look like a deer in the headlights.

452 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:21:57am

Charles could you please put a count down clock of 44's time left as President. Opnion is running out of fingers and soon will run out of toes. He seems to have a problem after that.

Thanks

453 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:23:07am

re: #436 opnion

Good morning Lizards. Day nine, America held hostage!

Good morning, all!

I prefer to look at it this way . . .

454 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:23:21am

re: #452 Erik The Red

Charles could you please put a count down clock of 44's time left as President. Opnion is running out of fingers and soon will run out of toes. He seems to have a problem after that.

Thanks

Thank you.

455 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:24:12am

re: #445 Erik The Red

Maybe we could ask Charles to put a count down clock on the side bar.

Here ya go . . .

456 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:24:55am

re: #450 ThinkRight Sonofa I in my haste to eject Obama from office inputted an end date of jan 20 2012 not 2013.

457 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:24:59am

Russia scraps plan to deploy nuclear-capable missiles in Kaliningrad

Missile-shield? Neither the Euro's or US need a schtinking missile-shield.

Ain't.gunna.make.it. Not even a year.

458 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:25:13am

re: #455 vapig

Here ya go . . .

I hope Charles will put it on the side bar on the front page.

459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:25:15am

Everybody thinks it'll only be four years. Interesting.

460 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:25:47am

re: #459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Pssh i only gave him 3.

461 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:25:54am

re: #455 vapig

Here ya go . . .

Barry's IQ is 121? I thought that he was a world class Mensa genius.

462 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:26:27am

re: #459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Everybody thinks it'll only be four years. Interesting.

DO NOT RUIN OUR HOPEN

463 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:27:04am

re: #459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Everybody thinks it'll only be four years. Interesting.

We're being optimistic. Thinking of 8 years of socialistic hell would be too cruel, don't ya think?

464 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:28:49am

re: #462 Erik The Red

DO NOT RUIN OUR HOPEN



After four years America will merely be a province in the New World Order.
The Dear Leader at that time will be World Emperor.

465 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:28:56am

My heart pleads for 4. My mind thinks it's 8.

Sorry.

466 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:29:29am

re: #461 opnion

Barry's IQ is 121? I thought that he was a world class Mensa genius.

Que? Where do you see that from the link? All I see is a, "Get your Obama Grant, here," banner.....

467 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:29:36am

re: #456 Rustler
It really sucks that we have to talk about it and think about it.
F-ing Hussein Obama is the begging of the end
The Similarities of the USA and the end of the Roman empire are really scary

468 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:30:33am

I'm starting to feel Optimistic about the 2010 elections. Barry's first days are hopefully scary enough that those who have a sence of pride in their country and want to live securely will oust all Dem's and Rino's from office. Hopefully those who couldn't bring themselves to vote for McCain will instead close ranks behind a single conservative legislator frmo their districts and work at taking away Obama's majority in both houses.

469 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:30:43am

re: #464 opnion

After four years America will merely be a province in the New World Order.
The Dear Leader at that time will be World Emperor.


For Life

470 VioletTiger  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:31:26am

re: #463 vapig
It would make it really hard to get up in the morning.

471 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:31:40am

re: #465 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My heart pleads for 4. My mind thinks it's 8.

Sorry.

Go see a shrink and get that problem sorted out.

472 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:31:55am

re: #467 ThinkRight

Will Biden be Brutus.

473 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:31:56am

re: #467 ThinkRight
PIMF
beginning

474 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:33:35am

re: #472 Rustler

Will Biden be Brutus.


He wilkl be under the bus
He is just a puppet now anyway
He ain't no Cheney

475 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:33:59am

re: #474 ThinkRight

re: #474 ThinkRight

That's for damn sure.

476 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:34:05am

re: #466 vapig

Que? Where do you see that from the link? All I see is a, "Get your Obama Grant, here," banner.....

The link at first had an IQ challenge test to see if you could top Barry's 121. They must continue to change it.

477 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:34:24am

re: #470 VioletTiger

It would make it really hard to get up in the morning.

No kidding! It's already hard to get up in the morning, but I'd prefer not to give up on my country just yet.

478 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:35:41am

re: #476 opnion

The link at first had an IQ challenge test to see if you could top Barry's 121. They must continue to change it.


My IQ is better than that on days that I am not drinking
/never

479 songbird  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:36:35am

re: #477 vapig

No kidding! It's already hard to get up in the morning, but I'd prefer not to give up on my country just yet.

I know a lot of people are discouraged about Obama and the Dem majority, but it's not too early to start choosing good candidates for the 2010 elections. Obama's policies are the best advertisement for a Republican comeback.

480 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:36:54am

re: #478 ThinkRight

My IQ is better than that on days that I am not drinking
/never

But if ya wanted to beat the little pecker ya could & that's the point.

481 jcbunga  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:37:49am

Has Biden said anything stupid yet today?

482 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:37:51am

re: #476 opnion

The link at first had an IQ challenge test to see if you could top Barry's 121. They must continue to change it.

Perhaps it shows different things to different servers? I don't have firefox and am using antiquated IE. I have only ever seen the banner.

I also don't see half the bells and whistles I've heard described here on LGF.

483 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:39:02am

re: #480 opnion
Yep
I bet Brittany Spears could challenge him
no sarc

484 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:39:18am

re: #468 Rustler

re: #479 songbird

There is also a new Centrist party, you might check them out. I don't agree with them on global warming, but they make some sense otherwise.

U.S. Centrist.

485 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:39:37am

re: #12 karmic_inquisitor

"She'll come to the big city," Schumer said, and "learn the damage that guns can create."

Paternalistic, elitist creep.

486 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:41:21am

re: #479 songbird

I know a lot of people are discouraged about Obama and the Dem majority, but it's not too early to start choosing good candidates for the 2010 elections. Obama's policies are the best advertisement for a Republican comeback.

Yeah - but we ned some good Reagan Republicans. The party has been lurching towards the left since he left office and those same people (in our party) keep telling us the days of Reagan Republicans are long gone. Seems we only churn out Nixon/ Rockafellar/ Ford/ Bush republicans these days. We need to go back to Reagan's conservative basics. Those are the only principles that when adhered to actually work.

487 eon  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:42:06am

re: #461 opnion

Barry's IQ is 121? I thought that he was a world class Mensa genius.

Good morning, Lizards.

Some sources credit The One with an "awesome" IQ of 125. This means that he's a staggering seven percentage points above that "cretin"*, George W. Bush, and the "appallingly stupid"* Sarah Palin, both of whom check in at 118.

(*quotations from the usual suspects on the left, of course, not MO.)

Since the IQ scale (Stanford/Binet) is linear and not geometric, it would be fair to state that The One may be slightly more "intelligent" than his predecessor. But there's a vast gap between the ability to process data (which is the true definition of intelligence) and the ability to engage in rational decision making. Woodrow Wilson, at (approximately) 140, was one of our highest-IQ Presidents. Yet he repeatedly blundered, first in attempting to keep us out of World War One, then in getting us into it, and finally in trying to broker peace after it, simply because he tended to ignore or openly reject facts which conflicted with his personal dogmas. Jimmy Carter (121) had similar problems.

The bottom line isn't IQ- it's the ability to see things as they are, and not insist on "interpreting" them to suit preconceived notions or visionary delusions of perfection.

/For the record, mine is 183. And I guarantee you I'm not qualified to be POTUS.

cheers

eon

488 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:42:18am

re: #484 Ojoe Not centrist in the way of stradling the fence is it? That just becomes painful when your feet slip and you end up getting split by the rail.

489 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:42:36am

re: #486 vapig

Yeah - but we ned some good Reagan Republicans. The party has been lurching towards the left since he left office and those same people (in our party) keep telling us the days of Reagan Republicans are long gone. Seems we only churn out Nixon/ Rockafellar/ Ford/ Bush republicans these days. We need to go back to Reagan's conservative basics. Those are the only principles that when adhered to actually work.


Racist !
/

490 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:42:54am

Morning all. Besides the Ones questionable IQ, what are we talking about?

491 eon  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:44:21am

re: #490 Bubblehead II

Morning all. Besides the Ones questionable IQ, what are we talking about?

Life, the Universe, and Everything?

/A typical day at LGF, IOW.

cheers

eon

492 Crux Australis  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:44:25am

re: #467 ThinkRight

It really sucks that we have to talk about it and think about it.
F-ing Hussein Obama is the begging of the end
The Similarities of the USA and the end of the Roman empire are really scary

What of the US's allies?

493 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:44:43am

re: #490 Bubblehead II

Morning all. Besides the Ones questionable IQ, what are we talking about?


Hope and Change of course
/

494 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:44:56am

re: #484 Ojoe
Sorry trying to appeal to both sides is what helped kill McCains policy and was Bush's biggest failure. I am Conservative plain and simple.

495 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:45:27am

re: #487 eon

But there's a vast gap between the ability to process data (which is the true definition of intelligence) and the ability to engage in rational decision making.

The first requirement in getting to a good decision is to actually look at ALL the data.

As you point out.

"IQ" is vastly over-rated.

It was said of Lincoln, by his personal secretary who knew him intimately, that although he did not have a quick mind, he was never under any illusion.

496 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:45:37am

re: #487 eon

Great analysis.

497 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:45:42am

re: #487 eon

Good morning, Lizards.

Some sources credit The One with an "awesome" IQ of 125. This means that he's a staggering seven percentage points above that "cretin"*, George W. Bush, and the "appallingly stupid"* Sarah Palin, both of whom check in at 118.

(*quotations from the usual suspects on the left, of course, not MO.)

Since the IQ scale (Stanford/Binet) is linear and not geometric, it would be fair to state that The One may be slightly more "intelligent" than his predecessor. But there's a vast gap between the ability to process data (which is the true definition of intelligence) and the ability to engage in rational decision making. Woodrow Wilson, at (approximately) 140, was one of our highest-IQ Presidents. Yet he repeatedly blundered, first in attempting to keep us out of World War One, then in getting us into it, and finally in trying to broker peace after it, simply because he tended to ignore or openly reject facts which conflicted with his personal dogmas. Jimmy Carter (121) had similar problems.

The bottom line isn't IQ- it's the ability to see things as they are, and not insist on "interpreting" them to suit preconceived notions or visionary delusions of perfection.

/For the record, mine is 183. And I guarantee you I'm not qualified to be POTUS.

cheers

eon


Just who determined his IQ? Since he's never released any of his school transcripts how (and when) was this test administered? And doesn't drugs and smoking kill brain cells?

498 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:45:46am

re: #491 eon

SSDD in other words?

499 rain of lead  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:46:07am

morning folks,
been off a few days with the solar report so here it is
o sunspots with a solar wind output of 346 km/s

500 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:46:18am

re: #492 Crux Australis

What of the US's allies?


If we fail /fall
Everyone one else will too
Dominoes

501 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:46:30am

re: #489 ThinkRight

Racist !
/


ppppsssssssttttttttt!

502 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:47:05am

re: #485 MandyManners

Schumer should try walking thru a city where the Law abiding citizens are allowed to carry and see how few criminals will risk their lives commiting crimes. In the cities it's the anti gun legislation allowing only law breakers to have guns that causes the disparity.

503 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:47:06am

re: #494 Rustler

Well me too but centrist appears conservative at the moment & there is some hope of getting enough people to vote centrist, I think, more than getting them to vote "conservative". IMHO.

504 Pietr  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:47:14am

I was sent this link, and found it funny. It's John Stewart on Obama's inaugural speech...

[Link: www.thedailyshow.com...]

505 songbird  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:47:33am

re: #486 vapig

Yeah - but we ned some good Reagan Republicans. The party has been lurching towards the left since he left office and those same people (in our party) keep telling us the days of Reagan Republicans are long gone. Seems we only churn out Nixon/ Rockafellar/ Ford/ Bush republicans these days. We need to go back to Reagan's conservative basics. Those are the only principles that when adhered to actually work.

I agree with you. It is as if Republicans have been afraid to cling to the conservative principals which gave it such success during Reagan's era. We benefited from them long after his presidency. What's wrong with us?(generally speaking, not specifically to this scaled audience)

Do you think our nation has swung so far to the left that there would be no recovery, or do you think principals of practical conservative, especially fiscal conservatism, could bring us back? I miss the Contract with America. Now it's the "Dictates from on High" shoved through by the ecstatic leftists in Congress!

506 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:48:24am

re: #495 Ojoe

The first requirement in getting to a good decision is to actually look at ALL the data.

As you point out.

"IQ" is vastly over-rated.

It was said of Lincoln, by his personal secretary who knew him intimately, that although he did not have a quick mind, he was never under any illusion.

Agreed! I'll take good old fashioned common sense over lofty IQ's any day!

507 songbird  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:48:32am

re: #487 eon

Good morning, Lizards.

Some sources credit The One with an "awesome" IQ of 125. This means that he's a staggering seven percentage points above that "cretin"*, George W. Bush, and the "appallingly stupid"* Sarah Palin, both of whom check in at 118.

(*quotations from the usual suspects on the left, of course, not MO.)

Since the IQ scale (Stanford/Binet) is linear and not geometric, it would be fair to state that The One may be slightly more "intelligent" than his predecessor. But there's a vast gap between the ability to process data (which is the true definition of intelligence) and the ability to engage in rational decision making. Woodrow Wilson, at (approximately) 140, was one of our highest-IQ Presidents. Yet he repeatedly blundered, first in attempting to keep us out of World War One, then in getting us into it, and finally in trying to broker peace after it, simply because he tended to ignore or openly reject facts which conflicted with his personal dogmas. Jimmy Carter (121) had similar problems.

The bottom line isn't IQ- it's the ability to see things as they are, and not insist on "interpreting" them to suit preconceived notions or visionary delusions of perfection.

/For the record, mine is 183. And I guarantee you I'm not qualified to be POTUS.

cheers

eon

Intelligence is never synonymous with wisdom!

508 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:48:37am

re: #502 Rustler

Schumer should try walking thru a city where the Law abiding citizens are allowed to carry and see how few criminals will risk their lives commiting crimes. In the cities it's the anti gun legislation allowing only law breakers to have guns that causes the disparity.


People do not kill people
Guns kill people
Get with ther program

509 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:49:09am

Sorry for the delay in my following up on my earlier postings. I had to go out and clear off about 2 inches if global warming off my driveway and sidewalks.

I think the reason why Obama is looking for political cover from the Republicans for his stimulus bill, is that once all the pork in there becomes public knowledge, he wants to be able to say that a lot of Republicans voted for it too for political cover.

This is a long standing Chicago Machine tactic. Try to get a smattering of votes from the few Republicans around, trying to make the Republicans think they are getting a seat at the table. If the legislation actually works out, the Democrats take all the credit. If the legislation does not work out, you pound the Republicans for it.

The Illinois Republican party is non-functional for several reasons, including thinking that they could "work with" the Democrats.

510 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:49:35am

re: #486 vapig Sorry but work is now a 4 letter word please try and censor futher use to avoid those for whom work is too hard.

511 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:50:29am
Obama should apologise to Iran: Ahmadinejad
"If you talk about change it must put an end to the US military presence in the world, withdraw your troops and take them back inside your borders."
Ahmadinejad said the advocates of change must "stop supporting the Zionists, outlaws and criminals."
Washington should "let the American people decide their own future ... Stop pressuring them," he added, without saying to what he was referring.

Anything else?/

512 notutopia  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:50:47am

re: #1 least

I heard very timely quote this weekend, but did not hear who said it:

A government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take all you have.

Anyone know the source?

A government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take all you have.
Gerald Ford (14 July 1913 – 26 December 2006) , the 38th President of the United States.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have.
Presidential address to a joint session of Congress (12 August 1974)
Ford has also been quoted as having made a similar statement many years earlier, as a representative to the US Congress: "If the government is big enough to give you everything you want, it is big enough to take away everything you have."
"If Elected, I Promise…" : Stories and Gems of Wisdom by and About Politicians (1960) p. 193"
Source:
[Link: en.wikiquote.org...]

513 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:51:23am

re: #508 ThinkRight
Guns don't kill people, Idiocy does.

514 Ojoe  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:51:47am

Back tomorrow, carry on folks.

515 songbird  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:52:39am

re: #513 Rustler

Guns don't kill people, Idiocy does.

Unfortunately, a ban on idiocy would be futile.

516 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:53:28am

NE Ohio is currently being slammed with a Gorebull snow storm. Over a foot of the crap on the ground and it's still pouring out of the skies.

517 VioletTiger  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:53:31am

re: #497 vapig
I don't think those IQ adds are real. They have different numbers on different adds. Barry's IQ is anybody's guess.

518 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:54:02am

re: #509 3 wood

Sorry for the delay in my following up on my earlier postings. I had to go out and clear off about 2 inches if global warming off my driveway and sidewalks.

I think the reason why Obama is looking for political cover from the Republicans for his stimulus bill, is that once all the pork in there becomes public knowledge, he wants to be able to say that a lot of Republicans voted for it too for political cover.

This is a long standing Chicago Machine tactic. Try to get a smattering of votes from the few Republicans around, trying to make the Republicans think they are getting a seat at the table. If the legislation actually works out, the Democrats take all the credit. If the legislation does not work out, you pound the Republicans for it.

The Illinois Republican party is non-functional for several reasons, including thinking that they could "work with" the Democrats.

Excellent analysis. I think the stimulus will pass but the passage will mark a dark day in our history. There is no way this will work. It will drive the deficit well over 2 TRILLION dollars and put another nail in the financial coffin of this country. I only hope that every republican stands against this so in 2 years they have something to campaign on and in 4 years they can drive the dems out wholesale.

519 Crux Australis  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:54:15am

re: #500 ThinkRight

If we fail /fall
Everyone one else will too
Dominoes

I was talking to a few friends about the size of US and Australia's economies.

If Australia fails only Australia, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea and a few Pacific Island nations fail. But if the US fails the whole world fails.

520 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:54:38am

re: #505 songbird

Do you think our nation has swung so far to the left that there would be no recovery, or do you think principals of practical conservative, especially fiscal conservatism, could bring us back? I miss the Contract with America. Now it's the "Dictates from on High" shoved through by the ecstatic leftists in Congress!

I think that after we go through the coming period of very high inflation, the nation will be ready to embrace fiscal conservatism again.

Right now I don't thank a lot of voters really see the risk of deficit spending. an entire generation of people have grown up knowing nothing but constant economic growth. They tend to think tit is a birthright.

I've been telling my economics students for some years that when the next recession came it would be a doozy, cause so many people have grown up knowing nothing but relatively good times and the reaction to a down turn would be huge.

521 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:54:52am

re: #515 songbird Here is one for all the Carter Lover's out there.

522 Crux Australis  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:55:25am

bbl

523 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:55:29am

re: #515 songbird

Unfortunately, a ban on idiocy would be futile.


It is illegal to ban all Libs and Dems
Reagan would have if he could have

524 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:55:43am

re: #520 3 wood

Right now I don't thank a lot of voters really see the risk of deficit spending. an entire generation of people have grown up knowing nothing but constant economic growth. They tend to think tit is a birthright.

It is isn't it?

525 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:55:48am

re: #508 ThinkRight

In light of the recent Supreme Court ruling I think this correction might be in order.

People do not kill people
Guns Bullets kill people
Ban all bullets (they are not protected by the Constitution)
Get with the program

526 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:56:16am

re: #516 rightymouse

NE Ohio is currently being slammed with a Gorebull snow storm. Over a foot of the crap on the ground and it's still pouring out of the skies.

We've got a s---ton of Gorebull Warming falling on Cape Cod right now. Al Gore is a joke and if dear leader appoints him as is "climate czar", it will only hasten their marginalization.

527 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:57:25am

re: #525 Bubblehead II

This one is for you Bubble.

528 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:57:37am

Good morning !
So? Where's Biden been......?
Was looking forward to his gaffes!
He proves that light truly is faster than sound.
Seems bright till he opens his mouth.

529 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:57:40am

re: #505 songbird

I agree with you. It is as if Republicans have been afraid to cling to the conservative principals which gave it such success during Reagan's era. We benefited from them long after his presidency. What's wrong with us?(generally speaking, not specifically to this scaled audience)

Do you think our nation has swung so far to the left that there would be no recovery, or do you think principals of practical conservative, especially fiscal conservatism, could bring us back? I miss the Contract with America. Now it's the "Dictates from on High" shoved through by the ecstatic leftists in Congress!

Unknown! I know that the leftist indoctrination started while I was still in school. They've had 30 years to build on that - just look how intolerant our schools and colleges are to conservative ideals. Their mantra is basically, "Free speech for me and None for thee!"

Yet, even as a rabid liberal (I was young) Carter's admin depressed me and Reagan's speeches touched me and awoke a love of country I didn't think I possessed. With all the nonsense talk of hope and change that Obama's empty suit spewed during the election, Reagan's speeches truly did give you hope. Needless to say, the very first (and second) president I voted for was Reagan.

I think what we need is another Reagan - and by that I mean the great communicator. Someone able to communicate those ideals and inspire the way he was able to do so effortlessly.

530 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:57:54am

re: #520 3 wood

I think that after we go through the coming period of very high inflation, the nation will be ready to embrace fiscal conservatism again.

Right now I don't thank a lot of voters really see the risk of deficit spending. an entire generation of people have grown up knowing nothing but constant economic growth. They tend to think tit is a birthright.

I've been telling my economics students for some years that when the next recession came it would be a doozy, cause so many people have grown up knowing nothing but relatively good times and the reaction to a down turn would be huge.

Unfortunately, those years of inflation before we embrace sound fiscal policy will be really painful.

531 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:58:23am

re: #502 Rustler

Schumer should try walking thru a city where the Law abiding citizens are allowed to carry and see how few criminals will risk their lives commiting crimes. In the cities it's the anti gun legislation allowing only law breakers to have guns that causes the disparity.

I wonder if Schumer has a driver/body-guard person.

532 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:58:30am

re: #525 Bubblehead II

In light of the recent Supreme Court ruling I think this correction might be in order.

People do not kill people
Guns Bullets kill people
Ban all bullets (they are not protected by the Constitution)
Get with the program


Thats right

533 eon  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:59:04am

re: #492 Crux Australis

What of the US's allies?



In the Fifth Century (AD), as the legions began to withdraw to protect Rome, the Germanic tribes which had been in contact wit the Empire for over 200 years gradually consolidated their position. In the province of Gaul (France) they had held high administrative posts since the 4th Century. When the so-called barbarians invaded in the 5th and 6th Centuries, they were fighting Romanized Franks and Burgundians, not Romans. And with the armies gone and the local populations so long forbidden to carry arms, resistance was apathetic. Small city-states sprang up. The great estates, established as part of the imperial economic structure, had no further raison d'etre, and they gradually ran down. the imperial roads were too expensive to keep in repair when there were no legions to use them. They served no local purpose, and life had become local, so they too fell into disrepair. Economic activity dropped sharply as the province split into tiny self-sufficient units under local kings, and especially during the plagues of the 6th and 7th Centuries when the population of Europe was halved.

-Jame Burke, Connections, 2007 ed., p.84.

(Italics mine, not Burke's.)

And that was when the Muslim armies arrived through the Iberian Peninsula and the Balkans, BTW.

Like H. Beam Piper, I'm not a Toynbean, but I do believe that history can repeat itself. I just don't believe that the second go-round is inevitably a farce.

It can still be pretty damned tragic.

cheers

eon

534 VioletTiger  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:59:10am

Have a wonderful day lizards! Back to work for me.

535 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:59:15am

re: #527 Rustler

Bugs Bunny on PCP?

536 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:59:47am

re: #518 Jetpilot1101

There is no way this will work. It will drive the deficit well over 2 TRILLION dollars and put another nail in the financial coffin of this country.

Ignoring the pork in the bill and looking at the pure fiscal policy stimulant parts, it's going to impact the economy too late.

The time lags for fiscal policy stimulant programs to start working is 1 to 2 years. There are some early signs of the economy already self adjusting to the recession (real estate prices are dropping at a slower rate, the market seems to be finding a bottom, some companies are adjusting and starting to report actual profits).

What is going to happen is the economy will start growing itself out of this (given that the financial system starts functioning smoothly again), and then the expansionary aspects of this bill will hit, and will overstimulate the economy into double digit inflation for quite a few years.

That will create a great opportunity for a fiscal conservative to get some attention.

537 Rustler  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 5:59:49am

Night all.

538 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:00:34am

re: #524 Erik The Red

It is isn't it?


Oooops.

Sorry for the typo.

539 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:00:41am

re: #509 3 wood

Working with democrats = capitulation. Always! Democrats never compromise on anything!

540 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:01:30am

re: #538 3 wood

Oooops.

Sorry for the typo.

Damn I thought you were starting a boobie thread///

541 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:01:37am

re: #536 3 wood

Ignoring the pork in the bill and looking at the pure fiscal policy stimulant parts, it's going to impact the economy too late.

The time lags for fiscal policy stimulant programs to start working is 1 to 2 years. There are some early signs of the economy already self adjusting to the recession (real estate prices are dropping at a slower rate, the market seems to be finding a bottom, some companies are adjusting and starting to report actual profits).

What is going to happen is the economy will start growing itself out of this (given that the financial system starts functioning smoothly again), and then the expansionary aspects of this bill will hit, and will overstimulate the economy into double digit inflation for quite a few years.

That will create a great opportunity for a fiscal conservative to get some attention.

So essentially, we really don't need this and we should just let the economy recover on its own. I'm concerned more about the crippling deficit that could kill the natural recovery.

542 eon  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:03:19am

re: #497 vapig

Just who determined his IQ? Since he's never released any of his school transcripts how (and when) was this test administered? And doesn't drugs and smoking kill brain cells?

Now you know we're not supposed to ask questions like that...

Actually, I've been wondering where these figures come from, myself. The ones for Wilson & Carter came from a book on the human mind I read once. The figures for GWB and Sarahcuda came from one of those "Test your IQ" sites I see ads for -and never click on.

/I view all such sources as at best difficult to verify,hence to be approached with caution.

cheers

eon

543 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:03:40am

re: #529 vapig

I think what we need is another Reagan - and by that I mean the great communicator. Someone able to communicate those ideals and inspire the way he was able to do so effortlessly.

I wonder if Palin--with a bit of training--could be like that. From what I've seen of her, she has great delivery.

544 Cathypop  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:04:00am

re: #509 3 wood

Sorry for the delay in my following up on my earlier postings. I had to go out and clear off about 2 inches if global warming off my driveway and sidewalks.

I think the reason why Obama is looking for political cover from the Republicans for his stimulus bill, is that once all the pork in there becomes public knowledge, he wants to be able to say that a lot of Republicans voted for it too for political cover.

This is a long standing Chicago Machine tactic. Try to get a smattering of votes from the few Republicans around, trying to make the Republicans think they are getting a seat at the table. If the legislation actually works out, the Democrats take all the credit. If the legislation does not work out, you pound the Republicans for it.

The Illinois Republican party is non-functional for several reasons, including thinking that they could "work with" the Democrats.


You have put into words what I have been thinking. We can only hope that the Republicans can grow some balls and see this.

545 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:04:18am

re: #526 Jetpilot1101

We've got a s---ton of Gorebull Warming falling on Cape Cod right now. Al Gore is a joke and if dear leader appoints him as is "climate czar", it will only hasten their marginalization.

Am still fighting my dear liberal friend about this nonsense. He lives in the NE Ohio area too and still swears by Gorebull even though this is probably our coldest winter on record. Go figure.

/I LOVE CAPE COD!

546 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:04:54am

re: #541 Jetpilot1101

So essentially, we really don't need this and we should just let the economy recover on its own. I'm concerned more about the crippling deficit that could kill the natural recovery.


Do not worry about that
That is the Dems plans
They are talking about nationalizing the banks
Cause they want to,not cause they have to.

547 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:04:55am

re: #543 MandyManners

I wonder if Palin--with a bit of training--could be like that. From what I've seen of her, she has great delivery.

I think Romney would do an excellent job communicating sound policy. Unlike Obama, he has some REAL credentials that eminently qualify him to be president.

548 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:04:55am

re: #526 Jetpilot1101

We've got a s---ton of Gorebull Warming falling on Cape Cod right now. Al Gore is a joke and if dear leader appoints him as is "climate czar", it will only hasten their marginalization.

I live here in the DC Metro area (Northern Virginia) and up till now, we've had a very mild winter. Who knew that all we had to do was invite the goracle to town and we'd get hit by global warming!

I swear God has a sense of humor and is following this guy around the world with icy blasts and blizzards just to make a fool out of this pompous self proclaimed weather sage.

549 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:04:55am

I've looked but I cannot find it but, what's CBBHO's alleged I.Q.?

550 eon  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:05:12am

re: #498 Bubblehead II

SSDD in other words?

Roger that.

cheers

eon

551 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:05:30am

re: #547 Jetpilot1101

I think Romney would do an excellent job communicating sound policy. Unlike Obama, he has some REAL credentials that eminently qualify him to be president.

What are his skeletons?

552 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:06:12am

re: #530 Jetpilot1101

Unfortunately, those years of inflation before we embrace sound fiscal policy will be really painful.

Very, and it will be doubly so on people who cashed out and put their money in "safe" fixed income securities like treasuries.

Guess what will happen to the mark to market value of that treasury when interest rates start shooting up.

It will drop like a rock.

553 Erik The Red  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:06:31am

Later Lizards. See you in a bit.

554 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:07:02am

re: #551 MandyManners

What are his skeletons?


Mormon bible thumper
/

555 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:07:04am

re: #549 MandyManners

I've looked but I cannot find it but, what's CBBHO's alleged I.Q.?


Zero.

556 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:07:12am

re: #551 MandyManners
Ancestors practiced plural marrige and he wears funny
underwear....That's about it!

557 songbird  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:07:49am

re: #529 vapig

Unknown! I know that the leftist indoctrination started while I was still in school. They've had 30 years to build on that - just look how intolerant our schools and colleges are to conservative ideals. Their mantra is basically, "Free speech for me and None for thee!"

Yet, even as a rabid liberal (I was young) Carter's admin depressed me and Reagan's speeches touched me and awoke a love of country I didn't think I possessed. With all the nonsense talk of hope and change that Obama's empty suit spewed during the election, Reagan's speeches truly did give you hope. Needless to say, the very first (and second) president I voted for was Reagan.

I think what we need is another Reagan - and by that I mean the great communicator. Someone able to communicate those ideals and inspire the way he was able to do so effortlessly.

Please don't downding me for this opinion, I'm just making a suggestion.
If Huckabee did not have such an amusing name, I think he could have been eloquent enough to communicate to the people. He has a way with words and you have to admit he is infinitely more balanced than the present occupant of the White house.

Who else would you suggest that could take Reagan's place? There are few who possess the skills of speechcraft Reagan had? Some do have the determination and the vision, but are unable to communicate to the nation.

558 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:07:58am

re: #554 ThinkRight

Mormon bible thumper
/

That ain't your average Bible!

559 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:08:08am

re: #555 rightymouse

Zero.


Negative "0"

560 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:08:37am

re: #545 rightymouse

Am still fighting my dear liberal friend about this nonsense. He lives in the NE Ohio area too and still swears by Gorebull even though this is probably our coldest winter on record. Go figure.

/I LOVE CAPE COD!

I've been "debating" my father for a few years now. He moved to CO and drank the cool-aid. A year ago, I noticed that "Global Warming" morphed into "Climate Change" and his mantra became "it really doesn't matter what happens to the temperature, we're responsible". I don't think I'll convince him; I don't think you can change a defeatist attitude.

561 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:08:40am

After having had years of Hollywood leftist propaganda, and a gallon of Kool Aid, I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT! I have recieved this secret e-mail this morning from The Other One. I think it was from Herr Oprah!


(WARNING! Do not have coffee in you mouth while reading this. An explosion may result)

562 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:09:17am

re: #554 ThinkRight

Mormon bible thumper
/

I was thinking more along the lines of actions/policies/et cet..

563 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:09:48am

re: #555 rightymouse

Zero.

Biden's is higher.

564 akak  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:09:53am
Ahmadinejad: Obama Must Apologize to Iran

yes sir, let me just get him on the line

3,2,1

we surrender Iraq, oh & sorry too!

let's talk about Israel next week

Mr President I have Vlad on line 2

565 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:10:12am

re: #556 reloadingisnotahobby

Ancestors practiced plural marrige and he wears funny
underwear....That's about it!

See No. 562, please.

566 NortonPete  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:10:23am

How predictable, one day after our new UN ambassador tells Iran that we will reach out to them , Ahmadinejad demands an apology for U.S. 'crimes' and insists on a major change in policy.
Our weakness was rewarded.

567 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:10:25am

re: #551 MandyManners

What are his skeletons?

The only thing I can think of is a few minor flip-flops when he was running for governor in Mass. and the fact that he is a Mormon. I know a lot of evangelical Christians who won't vote for him because of that. As a Christian, I personally think that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I tell them I'm voting for a president, not a pastor.

568 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:10:51am

Mornin'.

Please tell me Al-AraBarry hasn't surrendered to the French while I was sleeping.

569 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:10:51am

Apologize to the Mullah's then hand them Iraq: Obama imposes his new plans on Iraq, Afghan wars

U.S. President Barack Obama has hit the ground running on Iraq and Afghanistan, imposing dramatic changes in policy in both wars within a week of taking the oath of office.
[...]
The Status of Forces Agreement that the Bush administration finally concluded before leaving office with the Iraqi government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki gives a three-year deadline for withdrawal from Iraq by U.S. forces. But Obama in his campaign pledged to pull them out in 16 months -- less than half that time.

A source close to Petraeus told UPI the president wants to see a range of options to implement his Iraq withdrawal plans.

Don't worry, everything's just fhine.

570 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:10:58am

re: #562 MandyManners

I was thinking more along the lines of actions/policies/et cet..


The MSM does not care about that except the abortion stance of everyone in politics

571 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:12:36am

re: #559 ThinkRight

Negative "0"


Heh. I don't doubt that "O" has some smarts. But one of the telling things about him is that he can't think on his feet. Also, I haven't seen a sense of humor. Dude is wound tighter than a drum.

572 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:12:47am

re: #570 ThinkRight

The MSM does not care about that except the abortion stance of everyone in politics


He is a better Republican than McCain and most of the RINO's we have now

573 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:12:52am

Ready for laugh?

Virgin: the world's best passenger complaint letter?

Dear Mr Branson

REF: Mumbai to Heathrow 7th December 2008

I love the Virgin brand, I really do which is why I continue to use it despite a series of unfortunate incidents over the last few years. This latest incident takes the biscuit.

Ironically, by the end of the flight I would have gladly paid over a thousand rupees for a single biscuit following the culinary journey of hell I was subjected to at the hands of your corporation.

They offered him a job.

574 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:12:52am

re: #543 MandyManners

I wonder if Palin--with a bit of training--could be like that. From what I've seen of her, she has great delivery.

Good morning, Miss Mandy!

I've thought the same myself. She was a much stronger speaker than McCain was and I can see why the Alaskans (who are notoriously liberal from what I hear) voted for her. If liberals can be inspired (as Reagan inspired everybody) we may have a chance.

That being said, what I saw from liberals this last go around was so misogynistic and hateful, I just don't know if she can rise above the handicap of being a woman. Sad, that!

575 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:12:52am

re: #541 Jetpilot1101

So essentially, we really don't need this and we should just let the economy recover on its own. I'm concerned more about the crippling deficit that could kill the natural recovery.

What I have said all along, and I know it does not sit well with some folks, is that we do need to keep the financial system operating. That is like the heart pumping the blood in the body. If the financial system collapses, it's show over, but as long as it keeps functioning reasonably well, you can grow yourself out of this.

In my view, the government is to a large extent responsible for causing this mess due to the Community Reinvestment Act and a refusal to keep a handle on short selling and such. Yes, there was a lot of greed on the part of some banking/financial people too. But the Fed's also jacked up the discount rate beyond all reason and pushed a lot of the adjustible rate deals out there into default. They let the "uptick rule" on short selling expire and did not continue it. They allowed illegal "naked" short selling to occur and did nothing to stop it. They broke the system in my view, so they have to fix the damage.

But other than cleaning up the mess they made in the financial system, get the heck out of the way and let the economy self adjust.

576 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:13:29am

re: #567 Jetpilot1101

The only thing I can think of is a few minor flip-flops when he was running for governor in Mass. and the fact that he is a Mormon. I know a lot of evangelical Christians who won't vote for him because of that. As a Christian, I personally think that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I tell them I'm voting for a president, not a pastor.

Didn't some people think that a Kennedy presidency would mean that we would be ruled by Rome?

577 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:13:31am

re: #551 MandyManners

What are his skeletons?

Hello? Being a Mormon, of course!

578 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:14:27am

re: #572 ThinkRight

He is a better Republican than McCain and most of the RINO's we have now

I don't think that that is the defining aspect of being a Republican.

579 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:15:00am

re: #576 MandyManners

Didn't some people think that a Kennedy presidency would mean that we would be ruled by Rome?

Yes and as I recall, I didn't see the Pope holding Kennedy's puppet strings. Marylin Monroe on the other hand had a pretty good handle on the marionette.

580 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:15:22am

re: #560 Jetpilot1101

I've been "debating" my father for a few years now. He moved to CO and drank the cool-aid. A year ago, I noticed that "Global Warming" morphed into "Climate Change" and his mantra became "it really doesn't matter what happens to the temperature, we're responsible". I don't think I'll convince him; I don't think you can change a defeatist attitude.

It's a mind-set that liberals tend to share. I had the same discussion with my liberal friend about the morphing of 'warming' to 'climate change' and his attitude was 'so what, warming is climate change'. And he very much believes that it's caused by human activity too. And no amount of historical and/or scientific evidence pointing to sun flare activity and cyclical weather patterns will sway him. Humans be bad.

581 eon  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:15:40am

re: #508 ThinkRight

People do not kill people
GunsKnives kill people
Get with the program

A bit of "wisdom" from the UK, which now has knife attacks in every city 24/7 in spite of laws prohibiting their sale to anyone under 18. Knife-related murders are skyrocketing, and (although they don't want to talk about it) there are more firearms-related crimes in England now than there were before the absolute ban on guns instituted by Blair ten years ago.

The response?

The Home Office still orders PCs to issue violent miscreants Anti-Social Behavior Offense (ASBO) "tickets" instead of actually arresting them.

And the Birmingham Local Council recently issued a warning to the tenants of council flats. Stating that if they locked their doors, and the flat was damaged when the local criminals broke in to loot same, they (the tenants) would be held criminally and financially liable for damage to the flat (i.e., Council property.)

Take a good look at the UK. it's what the U.S. could look like by the end of The One's first term.

/And he could still get a second. After all, Bill did.

cheers

eon

582 akak  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:15:46am

re: #571 rightymouse

Heh. I don't doubt that "O" has some smarts. But one of the telling things about him is that he can't think on his feet. Also, I haven't seen a sense of humor. Dude is wound tighter than a drum.

yes and if he can't even handle O'Reilly, Putin will walk all over this guy.

583 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:16:09am

Time to go to work lizards. The conversation has been scintillating as always. See you all tonight.

584 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:16:26am

re: #563 MandyManners

Biden's is higher.

Could have fooled me. Heh.

585 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:16:30am

re: #576 MandyManners

Didn't some people think that a Kennedy presidency would mean that we would be ruled by Rome?


Does this mean Hussein Obama as POTUS we are all gonna be fake Christians and racist muslim appeasing sheep?
/

586 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:16:59am

re: #574 vapig

Good morning, Miss Mandy!

I've thought the same myself. She was a much stronger speaker than McCain was and I can see why the Alaskans (who are notoriously liberal from what I hear) voted for her. If liberals can be inspired (as Reagan inspired everybody) we may have a chance.

That being said, what I saw from liberals this last go around was so misogynistic and hateful, I just don't know if she can rise above the handicap of being a woman. Sad, that!

A large part of me thinks that that was just a cover. They feared her because she was unique and eloquent, and sexism was the handiest tool. I wonder if Uncle Tomism would've been raised if she had been an African-American man.

587 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:17:15am

re: #566 NortonPete

How predictable, one day after our new UN ambassador tells Iran that we will reach out to them , Ahmadinejad demands an apology for U.S. 'crimes' and insists on a major change in policy.
Our weakness was rewarded.

I am old enough to have lived through the Carter years.

I'm starting to get the feeling that I've seen this movie before.

Get ready for some of our embassies to get attacked.

588 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:17:24am

re: #567 Jetpilot1101

The only thing I can think of is a few minor flip-flops when he was running for governor in Mass. and the fact that he is a Mormon. I know a lot of evangelical Christians who won't vote for him because of that. As a Christian, I personally think that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. I tell them I'm voting for a president, not a pastor.

I kinda take issue with the "evangelicals" won't vote for him. Seems to me that that was pushed by the media. I never heard anyone say they wouldn't vote for him because he was a Mormon.

589 akak  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:17:43am
Georgia 'seizes Russian soldier'

/shit happens eh NATO?

590 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:18:05am

re: #577 vapig

Hello? Being a Mormon, of course!

I really don't recall it being that big an issue in the primaries.

591 Empire1  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:18:25am

re: #487 eon

/For the record, mine is 183. And I guarantee you I'm not qualified to be POTUS.

Mine's 157, and neither am I. What's more, I wouldn't want the job!

592 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:18:30am

re: #579 Jetpilot1101

Yes and as I recall, I didn't see the Pope holding Kennedy's puppet strings. Marylin Monroe on the other hand had a pretty good handle on the marionette.

Just gonna' leave that one alone.

593 apachegunner  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:18:52am

re: #540 Erik The Red

Damn I thought you were starting a boobie thread///

WHAT? Did someone say boobies? YES!

594 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:18:56am

Morning. Not feeling that great, so I stayed home today. As a fringe benefit, that means that I can wait before I have to go out and start shoveling my driveway. I don't remember there being a forecast for snow last night....

595 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:19:40am

re: #584 rightymouse

Could have fooled me. Heh.

He's pretty fly.

596 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:20:10am

re: #586 MandyManners

Of course! Look what happened to Michael Steele in Maryland. They threw oreos at him during debates. Nice, huh?

597 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:20:15am

re: #585 ThinkRight

Does this mean Hussein Obama as POTUS we are all gonna be fake Christians and racist muslim appeasing sheep?
/

I wonder if the White House will still have an Easter Egg Hunt.

598 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:20:56am

re: #586 MandyManners

They feared her because she was unique and eloquent, and sexism was the handiest tool. I wonder if Uncle Tomism would've been raised if she had been an African-American man.

I think the far left also hate her cause she did not abort her down syndrome baby.

599 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:21:27am

re: #597 MandyManners

We'd have to lock up that Egg of Power!

600 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:21:57am

re: #597 MandyManners

I wonder if the White House will still have an Easter Egg Hunt.

See lower/earlier thread. ;-)

601 NortonPete  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:22:02am

re: #587 3 wood

I remember those years also and I distinctly remember a funny looking member of the "students" who took over the embassy and he looked exactly like Amadingbat. I recall when he came to power in Iran, that 2 or 3 of the former hostages claimed the same thing but the subject just disappeared into the MSM void.

602 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:22:05am

re: #598 3 wood

I think the far left also hate her cause she did not abort her down syndrome baby.

Which only goes to show that they probably don't know a single Downs' person. I know several, and they are all very sweet.

603 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:22:09am

re: #586 MandyManners

A large part of me thinks that that was just a cover. They feared her because she was unique and eloquent, and sexism was the handiest tool. I wonder if Uncle Tomism would've been raised if she had been an African-American man.

Of course! Look at what they did to Michael Steele. Not only did they call him an Uncle Tomm, they (black people) threw oreo cookies at the man. Absolutely appalling!

604 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:22:15am

re: #582 akak

yes and if he can't even handle O'Reilly, Putin will walk all over this guy.


You mean Limbaugh?

605 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:22:28am

re: #597 MandyManners

I wonder if the White House will still have an Easter Egg Hunt.


Only if all the kids bring thier muslim prayer rugs and not call it easter
Egg of Power Hunt
/

606 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:22:49am

Mornin'. All quiet here in the occupied territory of north-central Virginia.

607 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:23:03am

re: #588 vapig

I kinda take issue with the "evangelicals" won't vote for him. Seems to me that that was pushed by the media. I never heard anyone say they wouldn't vote for him because he was a Mormon.

Neither did I and I'm surrounded by Evangelicals. I, too, think it was manufactured by the MFM. Perhaps it was a way to stir up fears of both Mormons and Evangelicals--Mormons because, well, they're Mormons and Evangelicals 'cause they're supposedly rigid and bigoted.

608 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:23:21am

re: #598 3 wood

I think they hated her because she is proof the liberals version of feminism is based on false premises - she was everything they weren't and the result was so much better.

609 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:23:43am

re: #594 vxbush

Sorry to hear that! What's ailing ya'?

610 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:23:53am

re: #601 NortonPete

I remember those years also and I distinctly remember a funny looking member of the "students" who took over the embassy and he looked exactly like Amadingbat. I recall when he came to power in Iran, that 2 or 3 of the former hostages claimed the same thing but the subject just disappeared into the MSM void.

You did hear that "whooshing" sound, didn't you? That's the sound of the MSM sweeping it under the rug.

I did find it interesting that ABC last night noted Obama's interview with Al-Arabiya, but they noted that lots of other presidents have had interviews on there, too. However, I don't recall a single president who made it his *first* interview.

Whoosh......

611 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:24:01am

re: #590 MandyManners

I really don't recall it being that big an issue in the primaries.

The field was still large at that time and I do recall the media harping on the "evangelicals" won't vote for him. They were set on McCain and nothing was going to sway their attacks against anybody they actually feared. Being a Mormon was the only thing they had on the guy.

612 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:24:32am

re: #596 ArmyWife

Of course! Look what happened to Michael Steele in Maryland. They threw oreos at him during debates. Nice, huh?

What the fuck?! For real? That is horrendous.

613 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:24:41am

re: #595 MandyManners

He's pretty fly.


**snort**

Only a Donk can get away with being a drunken doofus and become a VP.

614 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:25:40am

re: #612 MandyManners

yes, and worse. It was awful - and eye opening all the same.

615 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:25:41am

re: #598 3 wood

I think the far left also hate her cause she did not abort her down syndrome baby.

Guess those idiots have no idea what pro-choice means if it's not the choice they would make.

616 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:25:56am

re: #609 MandyManners

Sorry to hear that! What's ailing ya'?

A grumpy stomach. I've had it for a few days, but today I just couldn't ignore it to go to work. So I'm going to take it easy, try to go with a really simple diet today, and see if that helps.

617 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:26:26am

re: #613 rightymouse

No doubt! Imagine if this was Bush, Cheney or Rove! It'd be on endless loop at CNN!

618 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:26:29am

re: #599 ArmyWife

We'd have to lock up that Egg of Power!

re: #600 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

See lower/earlier thread. ;-)

Up-ding to the both of ya'!

619 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:27:14am

re: #616 vxbush

I had that the other day. Chicken broth and saltines when you can. Lot's of sleep. Ginger ale helped, too. I hope you feel better!

620 akak  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:27:22am

re: #604 rightymouse

You mean Limbaugh?

no O'Reilly interview pre election.

621 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:28:20am

re: #603 vapig

Of course! Look at what they did to Michael Steele. Not only did they call him an Uncle Tomm, they (black people) threw oreo cookies at the man. Absolutely appalling!

One of "theirs" made it but not in the manner approved by the party that backed slavery and Jim Crow.

622 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:28:20am

re: #619 ArmyWife

I had that the other day. Chicken broth and saltines when you can. Lot's of sleep. Ginger ale helped, too. I hope you feel better!

Yeah, I've got lots of that stuff around. I already had a week cup of tea, and the sugar in that has helped a little.

But I love my heating pad. :D

623 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:29:26am

re: #612 MandyManners

What the fuck?! For real? That is horrendous.

IIRC, they stole his credit report, started rumors of an affair he wasn't having...

Very Clintonesque.

624 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:29:55am

re: #607 MandyManners

Neither did I and I'm surrounded by Evangelicals. I, too, think it was manufactured by the MFM. Perhaps it was a way to stir up fears of both Mormons and Evangelicals--Mormons because, well, they're Mormons and Evangelicals 'cause they're supposedly rigid and bigoted.

I am rigid and bigoted. I rigidly believe in conservative principles and I can't tollerate the intollerant - which I define as self loathing, America hating, big government, socialistic, liberty hating, fraud supporting, eco-maniacs!

/it's all in how you look at things......

625 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:30:07am

re: #605 ThinkRight

Only if all the kids bring thier muslim prayer rugs and not call it easter
Egg of Power Hunt
/

What about the Christmas Tree lighting?

I'm not thinking he's Muslim but, I'm wondering if any changes will be made in order to be more "inclusive". Will he also celebrate Ramadan? Kwanza? Rosh Hoshana? Hannukah?

626 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:30:59am

re: #612 MandyManners

What the fuck?! For real? That is horrendous.

Yep - for real!

627 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:31:22am

re: #606 unreconstructed rebel

Mornin'. All quiet here in the occupied territory of north-central Virginia.

How many days until liberation?

628 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:31:54am

re: #625 MandyManners

What about the Christmas Tree lighting?

I'm not thinking he's Muslim but, I'm wondering if any changes will be made in order to be more "inclusive". Will he also celebrate Ramadan? Kwanza? Rosh Hoshana? Hannukah?

That's actually a good question. In a way, he signaled this in his inauguration address, when he referred to all the different faiths and those of no faith.

So when does the Festivus tree go up?

629 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:32:29am

re: #611 vapig

The field was still large at that time and I do recall the media harping on the "evangelicals" won't vote for him. They were set on McCain and nothing was going to sway their attacks against anybody they actually feared. Being a Mormon was the only thing they had on the guy.

Pretty thin pickings.

630 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:33:08am

re: #627 MandyManners

How many days until liberation?

Waaaaaaaay, waaaaay toooooo maneeeeee.

632 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:33:47am

re: #623 SasquatchOnSteroids

All of those things. Maryland has loverly politicians and the head goon is now called Governor.

633 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:34:24am

re: #627 MandyManners

How many days until liberation?

pssssst. Yer link is still loading. Must be my corporate firewall.

634 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:34:27am

re: #621 MandyManners

One of "theirs" made it but not in the manner approved by the party that backed slavery and Jim Crow.

Well, a party that always supported slavery and later, segregation, is apt to be full of liars and thieves. That they were able to co-opt the republican's earned high ground and to lie to the same people they oppressed for so many years is a testement to their mastery of manipulation.

635 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:34:39am

re: #631 Bubblehead II

All that money wasted on a new kitchen!

636 songbird  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:35:05am

I must go to work. Farewell Lizards!

637 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:35:23am

re: #616 vxbush

A grumpy stomach. I've had it for a few days, but today I just couldn't ignore it to go to work. So I'm going to take it easy, try to go with a really simple diet today, and see if that helps.

BRAT? (Bananas, rice, applesauce and tea?)

638 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:35:26am

re: #632 ArmyWife

I hear Sheila Dixon has a helluva backhand on her Wii.

639 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:35:43am

re: #617 ArmyWife

No doubt! Imagine if this was Bush, Cheney or Rove! It'd be on endless loop at CNN!


Exactly.

640 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:36:11am

re: #620 akak

no O'Reilly interview pre election.

Must have missed that one.

641 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:36:37am

re: #614 ArmyWife

yes, and worse. It was awful - and eye opening all the same.

I've seen the attitude with other African-Americans but, the depth of malice behind throwing Oreos is stunning.

642 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:36:37am

re: #625 MandyManners

What about the Christmas Tree lighting?

I'm not thinking he's Muslim but, I'm wondering if any changes will be made in order to be more "inclusive". Will he also celebrate Ramadan? Kwanza? Rosh Hoshana? Hannukah?


Whatever his new best friend Dinner Jacket wants he will get
To hell with G@D Damn Amerika
CAIR and ACORN are going to help shape policy Hussein Obama said during the primaries

643 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:36:45am

re: #637 MandyManners

BRAT? (Bananas, rice, applesauce and tea?)

I thought the T was toast. Of course very sweet tea has a good chance of staying down.

644 Rednek  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:36:56am

This must be old news by now

With Preconditions

"We welcome change but on condition that change is fundamental and on the right track," Ahmadinejad told a rally in western Iran, broadcast live on state television.

"When they say policy would change, it means they would end America's military presence around the world," he said, referring to U.S. troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere in the world.

Ahmadinejad said any change that was merely a shift in tactics would "soon be revealed."

"Those who say they want to make change, this is the change they should make: they should apologize to the Iranian nation and try to make up for their dark background and the crimes they have committed against the Iranian nation," Ahmadinejad said.

Any decision on U.S.-Iranian dialogue will require the approval of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran's highest authority. He said in October that hatred of America ran deep in Iran and warned Iraqi leaders in January that U.S. governments could not be trusted.

Let's see if our dear leader prostrates the nation before Iran sufficiently to palliate the guilt of our self-loathing elites, and the powers that be in Tehran.

For all you ignorant dopes in flyover country, that is what "Smart Power" is.

645 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:36:57am

re: #638 SasquatchOnSteroids

At least she no longer has bright yellow hair. That was disturbing, especially when paired with her pink power suit.

There are a lot of adjectives to Describe Mayor Dixon. Smart is not one of them.

646 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:37:14am
647 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:37:16am

re: #629 MandyManners

Pretty thin pickings.

So was macaca, yet they destroyed George Allen (my senator) with that. I can't tell you how much I resented the New York Slimes attacking my congress-critter ad nauseum in a local race. Now we have that fucknozzle Webb.

648 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:37:25am

re: #623 SasquatchOnSteroids

IIRC, they stole his credit report, started rumors of an affair he wasn't having...

Very Clintonesque.

Clintonesque or, actual Clintons?

649 nyc redneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:37:56am

re: #549 MandyManners

I've looked but I cannot find it but, what's CBBHO's alleged I.Q.?

there probably isn't isn't much evidence that he really is a brilliant person.
otherwise we would be seeing it. where are the records of his grades and accomplishments while at columbia and harvard.
call me skeptical but i doubt we have a genius. far from it. we have a conniver.

650 3 wood  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:38:11am

re: #602 vxbush

Which only goes to show that they probably don't know a single Downs' person. I know several, and they are all very sweet.

As I have always said, there is nothing wrong with their heart, which in the long run is the only thing that really matters.

651 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:38:25am

re: #637 MandyManners

BRAT? (Bananas, rice, applesauce and tea?)

That's the plan.

652 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:38:29am

re: #637 MandyManners

re: #643 unreconstructed rebel

Now, I remember - it's BRATT - Bananas, rice, applesauce, toast & tea,

653 wahabicorridor  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:38:42am

re: #637 MandyManners

BRAT? (Bananas, rice, applesauce and tea?)

Morning lizardia!

I think its bananas, rice, apples and TOAST. I was on it for a week when I contracted giardia.

654 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:38:52am

re: #633 unreconstructed rebel

pssssst. Yer link is still loading. Must be my corporate firewall.

Try this one.

655 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:39:35am

Zoning out listening to Katie Melua singing The Closest Thing to Crazy.

656 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:39:43am

re: #650 3 wood

As I have always said, there is nothing wrong with their heart, which in the long run is the only thing that really matters.

Yup, yup, yup.....

657 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:39:46am

re: #624 vapig

I am rigid and bigoted. I rigidly believe in conservative principles and I can't tollerate the intollerant - which I define as self loathing, America hating, big government, socialistic, liberty hating, fraud supporting, eco-maniacs!

/it's all in how you look at things......

Ah. As the MFM would describe you, it would mean ignorant and hidebound.

658 Lincolntf  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:40:09am

re: #607 MandyManners

I'm very far from being an "Evangelical" (a term that is "loaded" whenever used in discussions of politics), and the only Mormon I knew of in MA was Mitt Romney himself. In other words, I have no Religious dog in this fight. But, the bigotry against Romney came out of the media, while the distaste for "Evangelicals" seems to come from the general population. Too many years of watching TV preachers mired in scandal, too many instances of madmen using the Church as cover for their cults and too many instances of folksy, homespun veneer plastered on billion dollar "Religious" Corporations has rendered the word Evangelical anathema to many voters.
I've also noticed that whenever the MSM does a story about Evangelicals (more properly any ONE Evangelical), they use numbers that seem wildly disproportionate to my experience. I mean, they'll show some Evangelical preacher making some wacky pronouncement or engaging in a Carny Roadshow Mass and then add "...there are 25 million voters who share his views".
I think Romney will be able to overcome the bigotry agaiinst his faith far more easily than anyone who proclaims themselves an Evangelical.

659 wahabicorridor  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:40:17am

re: #649 nyc redneck

there probably isn't isn't much evidence that he really is a brilliant person.
otherwise we would be seeing it. where are the records of his grades and accomplishments while at columbia and harvard.
call me skeptical but i doubt we have a genius. far from it. we have a conniver.

HA! The editor for Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single article.

660 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:40:22am

re: #652 unreconstructed rebel

re: #643 unreconstructed rebel

Now, I remember - it's BRATT - Bananas, rice, applesauce, toast & tea,

Well, the toast will have to be my gluten-free bread, which doesn't really toast that well unless I turn up the heat. But we're taking it slow. My next food will be a banana, but not for a while.

661 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:40:38am

re: #654 vapig

Try this one.

Won't load neither.

662 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:40:58am

re: #628 vxbush

That's actually a good question. In a way, he signaled this in his inauguration address, when he referred to all the different faiths and those of no faith.

So when does the Festivus tree go up?

Festivus foods?

663 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:41:55am

re: #633 unreconstructed rebel

pssssst. Yer link is still loading. Must be my corporate firewall.

1,453 days

664 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:42:06am

re: #656 vxbush

Yup, yup, yup.....

You bet...my grandson's heart just had a complete overhaul in November...we are going to his First Birthday Come and Go party at his other grandparent's coffee house/multi-use building this Saturday!

665 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:42:07am
666 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:42:15am

Things you should know that are in the proposed stimulus bill:
1. The $825 billion package slated for a House vote later this week will exceed more than $1.1 trillion when adding in the interest ($300 plus billion) between 2009-2019 to pay for it.

2. The Capitol Hill Democrats’ plan includes funding for contraceptives; regardless of where anyone stands on taxpayer funded contraception, there is no question that it has NOTHING to do with the economy.

3. The legislation could open billions of taxpayer dollars to left-wing groups like the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), which has been accused of voter fraud, is reportedly under federal investigation; and played a key role in the housing meltdown.

4. Here are just a few of the programs and projects that have been included in the House Democrats’ proposal:

· $650 million for digital TV coupons.

· $600 million for new cars for the federal government.

· $6 billion for colleges/universities – many which have billion dollar endowments.

· $50 million in funding for the National Endowment of the Arts.

· $44 million for repairs to U.S. Department of Agriculture headquarters.

· $200 million for the National Mall, including $21 million for sod.

5. The plan establishes at least 32 new government programs at a cost of over $136 billion. That means more than a third of this plan’s spending provisions are dedicated to creating new government programs.

6. The plan provides spending in at least 150 different federal programs, ranging from Amtrak to the Transportation Security Administration. Is this the “targeted” plan Democratic leaders promised?

7. Even though the legislation contains at least 152 separate spending proposals, the authors of the plan can only say that 34 have any chance at keeping or growing jobs.

8. Just one in seven dollars of an $18.5 billion expenditure on “energy efficiency” and “renewable energy programs” would be spent within the next 18 months.

9. The total cost of this one piece of legislation is almost as much as the annual discretionary budget for the entire federal government.

10. The House Democrats’ bill will cost each and every household $6,700 in additional debt, paid for by our children and grandchildren.

cont.

667 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:42:26am

re: #641 MandyManners

He is a wonderful spirit, and he handled it well, but it must have hurt inside. He said it was out of fear - fear that someone like him would remove the social crutches. People like him chisel away at the "I am oppressed" notion, and proves that affirmative action isn't needed - just hard work, grit and determination. Then he said that also works surprisingly well if you are white, Asian, latino, etc.

668 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:42:28am

re: #659 wahabicorridor

HA! The editor for Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single article.

Never in the history of man has any one man done so little and gotten so far with the power over so many.

669 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:42:44am

re: #634 vapig

Well, a party that always supported slavery and later, segregation, is apt to be full of liars and thieves. That they were able to co-opt the republican's earned high ground and to lie to the same people they oppressed for so many years is a testement to their mastery of manipulation.

I wonder how many people know which party backed segregation.

670 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:42:58am

re: #660 vxbush

Well, the toast will have to be my gluten-free bread, which doesn't really toast that well unless I turn up the heat. But we're taking it slow. My next food will be a banana, but not for a while.

Put a whole lot of sugar in some tea, The sugar is a mild anesthetic & quiets the tummy while you get some much needed fluid in you.

671 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:43:14am

re: #663 MandyManners

1,453 days

Toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long.

672 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:43:25am

re: #642 ThinkRight

Whatever his new best friend Dinner Jacket wants he will get
To hell with G@D Damn Amerika
CAIR and ACORN are going to help shape policy Hussein Obama said during the primaries

We be fucked.

673 Lincolntf  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:43:33am

re: #649 nyc redneck

That's a good question. There's always eventually a story about a new President's grades in college. I wonder when we'll get Obama's.

674 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:43:37am

re: #648 MandyManners

It was State democrats who did it, local slime.

675 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:43:48am

re: #643 unreconstructed rebel

I thought the T was toast. Of course very sweet tea has a good chance of staying down.

It does. It's BRATT.

676 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:43:57am

re: #662 MandyManners

Festivus foods?

Heh:

COSBY: And, Janet, tell us about the food. I understand not just here you have the pole, but you have Festivus food. Tell us about it.

JANET HARE: Oh, absolutely, all food, all New York. Of course, a Festivus celebration wouldn’t be complete without the New York hot dog cart that we have outside in front, fabulous Rosemary’s New York-style hot dog cart. I, of course, have the fabulous crab bisque, the coveted Soup Nazi crab bisque, that we are able to get in Tucson. Cassidy has the big salad, Elaine’s big salad, that, you know, George, I’m sure, had a grievance about paying for. And Delaney has the best Festivus foods ever, the muffin tops and the Junior Mints.

677 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:44:14am

re: #627 MandyManners

How many days until liberation?

It's time to play, 'Beat that Clock!'
Where every second remaining is one second closer to disaster.

678 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:44:20am

re: #657 MandyManners

Ah. As the MFM would describe you, it would mean ignorant and hidebound.

Quite! And proudly so. However, my lifestlye (comfortable) would suggest to them that I must also be a heartless monster who has stepped upon the "little" people along the way. How else could I have succeeded?

/I hate liberals!

679 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:44:39am

re: #647 vapig

So was macaca, yet they destroyed George Allen (my senator) with that. I can't tell you how much I resented the New York Slimes attacking my congress-critter ad nauseum in a local race. Now we have that fucknozzle Webb.

And they ignored Biden pontificating on convenience store clerks.

680 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:44:43am

re: #562 MandyManners

I was thinking more along the lines of actions/policies/et cet..

I think he implemented a state health care program. Since it is a money loser, that probably qualifies as a skeleton, whether you want government health care or not.

681 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:44:48am

re: #669 MandyManners

People don't know the truth about Lincoln (to include our President), do you think they would realize this?

682 saberry0530  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:44:50am

re: #672 MandyManners

We be fucked.

(But not in the good way)

better

683 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:44:56am

cont. things in the stimulus bill:
11. The bill provides enough spending – $825 billion – to give every man, woman, and child in America $2,700. $825 billion is enough to give every person in Ohio $72,000.

12. $825 billion is enough to give every person living in poverty in the United States $22,000.

13. Although the House Democrats’ proposal has been billed as a transportation and infrastructure investment package, in actuality only $30 billion of the bill – or three percent – is for road and highway spending. A recent study from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that only 25 percent of infrastructure dollars can be spent in the first year, making the one year total less than $7 billion.

14. Much of the funding within the House Democrats’ proposal will go to programs that already have large, unexpended balances. For example, the bill provides $1 billion for Community Development Block Grants (CDBG) – a program that already has $16 billion on hand. States also are sitting on some $9 billion in unused highway funds – funds that Congress is prepared to rescind later this year.

15. All board members of the “Accountability and Transparency Board” created by this legislation are appointees of the President; none will be appointed by Congress.

16. A scant 2.7 percent, or $22.3 billion of the overall package, is dedicated to small business tax relief.

17. The Joint Committee on Taxation estimates that the legislation increases by seven million the number of people who get a check back from the IRS that exceeds what they paid in payroll and income taxes.

18. The “Making Work Pay” tax credit at the center of the plan amounts to $1.37 a day, or about the price of a cup of coffee.

19. Almost one-third of the so-called “tax relief” in the House Democrats’ bill is spending in disguise, meaning that true tax relief makes up only 24 percent of the total package – not the 40 percent that President Obama had requested.

20. $825 billion is just the beginning – many Capitol Hill Democrats want to spend even more taxpayer dollars on their “stimulus” plan. In fact, the Chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, Rep. David Obey (D-WI), told Roll Call earlier this month, “I would not be surprised to see us go further on some of these programs down the line.”
link

684 beblebrox  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:44:57am

re: #591 Empire1

Mine's 157, and neither am I. What's more, I wouldn't want the job!

For the both of you; it just goes to show that you have enough brains to know better than to want the job.

685 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:45:17am

re: #649 nyc redneck

there probably isn't isn't much evidence that he really is a brilliant person.
otherwise we would be seeing it. where are the records of his grades and accomplishments while at columbia and harvard.
call me skeptical but i doubt we have a genius. far from it. we have a conniver.

Ooooooooooh. That's good.

686 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:46:20am

re: #675 MandyManners

It does. It's BRATT.

Now, if only we could make it CRATT--chocolate, ....

/maybe banana muffins with chocolate chips?

687 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:46:23am

When pan-Arabist, anti-Semitic power drunk window dressing people attack.

ElBaradei nixes interview with BBC

IAEA head Mohamed ElBaradei told the British daily Guardian that the company's decision not to air the video "violates the rules of basic human decency which are there to help vulnerable people, irrespective of who is right or wrong."

688 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:46:26am
689 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:46:59am

re: #679 MandyManners

And they ignored Biden pontificating on convenience store clerks.

and the clean and articulate Obama.

690 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:47:04am

re: #678 vapig

That's not how you succeeded? Wow. I climb up as many backs as I could find. With cleats.

////

691 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:47:21am

re: #658 Lincolntf

I'm very far from being an "Evangelical" (a term that is "loaded" whenever used in discussions of politics), and the only Mormon I knew of in MA was Mitt Romney himself. In other words, I have no Religious dog in this fight. But, the bigotry against Romney came out of the media, while the distaste for "Evangelicals" seems to come from the general population. Too many years of watching TV preachers mired in scandal, too many instances of madmen using the Church as cover for their cults and too many instances of folksy, homespun veneer plastered on billion dollar "Religious" Corporations has rendered the word Evangelical anathema to many voters.
I've also noticed that whenever the MSM does a story about Evangelicals (more properly any ONE Evangelical), they use numbers that seem wildly disproportionate to my experience. I mean, they'll show some Evangelical preacher making some wacky pronouncement or engaging in a Carny Roadshow Mass and then add "...there are 25 million voters who share his views".
I think Romney will be able to overcome the bigotry agaiinst his faith far more easily than anyone who proclaims themselves an Evangelical.

Those who set themselves up above the rest are very appealing targets.

692 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:47:37am

re: #686 vxbush

Now, if only we could make it CRATT--chocolate, ....

/maybe banana muffins with chocolate chips?

Sounds like you're getting better already. ;)

693 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:48:53am

re: #669 MandyManners

I wonder how many people know which party backed segregation.

Honestly? From what I hear black people really believe it was the evil GOP. Also, they seem ignorant of the fact that segregation was not a national malady, but only encompassed a certain demographic area - and only in certain counties there.

694 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:49:17am

WTF! First it was an MP-3 player with confidential information on it.

A New Zealand man has found confidential United States military files on an MP3 player he bought at an op shop in the US.

Now we have a f**king filing cabinet full of confidential information being sold at auction.

Hundreds of files — with social security numbers, bank account numbers and other sensitive U.S. government information — were found in a filing cabinet purchased from the U.S. consulate in Jerusalem through a local auction.

F**CKING MORONS!

695 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:50:21am

re: #666 newsjunkie_ky

Things you should know that are in the proposed stimulus bill:
1. The $825 billion package slated for a House vote later this week will exceed more than $1.1 trillion when adding in the interest ($300 plus billion) between 2009-2019 to pay for it.

2. The Capitol Hill Democrats’ plan includes funding for contraceptives; regardless of where anyone stands on taxpayer funded contraception, there is no question that it has NOTHING to do with the economy.

3. The legislation could open billions of taxpayer dollars to left-wing groups like the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), which has been accused of voter fraud, is reportedly under federal investigation; and played a key role in the housing meltdown.

4. Here are just a few of the programs and projects that have been included in the House Democrats’ proposal:

· $650 million for digital TV coupons.

· $600 million for new cars for the federal government.

· $6 billion for colleges/universities – many which have billion dollar endowments.

· $50 million in funding for the National Endowment of the Arts.

· $44 million for repairs to U.S. Department of Agriculture headquarters.

· $200 million for the National Mall, including $21 million for sod.

5. The plan establishes at least 32 new government programs at a cost of over $136 billion. That means more than a third of this plan’s spending provisions are dedicated to creating new government programs.

6. The plan provides spending in at least 150 different federal programs, ranging from Amtrak to the Transportation Security Administration. Is this the “targeted” plan Democratic leaders promised?

7. Even though the legislation contains at least 152 separate spending proposals, the authors of the plan can only say that 34 have any chance at keeping or growing jobs.

8. Just one in seven dollars of an $18.5 billion expenditure on “energy efficiency” and “renewable energy programs” would be spent within the next 18 months.

9. The total cost of this one piece of legislation is almost as much as the annual discretionary budget for the entire federal government.

10. The House Democrats’ bill will cost each and every household $6,700 in additional debt, paid for by our children and grandchildren.

cont.

Is this the largest transfer of wealth in history?

696 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:50:30am

re: #694 Bubblehead II

WTF! First it was an MP-3 player with confidential information on it.

A New Zealand man has found confidential United States military files on an MP3 player he bought at an op shop in the US.

Now we have a f**king filing cabinet full of confidential information being sold at auction.

Hundreds of files — with social security numbers, bank account numbers and other sensitive U.S. government information — were found in a filing cabinet purchased from the U.S. consulate in Jerusalem through a local auction.

F**CKING MORONS!

I have to wonder at the ability of people who put these items in the surplus bin. Before I stick a hard drive in the surplus pile, i check it at least twice to make sure it's been wiped clean.

697 saberry0530  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:51:15am

Women on the radio just came up with the line of the day. "maybe we should create a department of Mary-Kay cosmetics. THat way they would have enough lipstick to put on this pig called the stimulus package"

just f'in brillant!

698 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:52:06am

re: #671 unreconstructed rebel

Toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long.

Maybe we should think of election 2010 as the beginning of his end.

699 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:52:18am

re: #679 MandyManners

And they ignored Biden pontificating on convenience store clerks.

That's were you see the language difference in their reporting. When a lib misfires it was an unfortunate misstep. When a conservative misspeaks, it's an outrageous racial slur.

700 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:52:26am

I just figured out Obama Hussein is a Grifter
He has no Resume or experience but can take any job and fool people into believing he is great at it
Just like his mother and father
Grifters are all about them selves and making a buck
Anybody wanna bet Michelle has a book about the journey to the White House out before thanksgiving

701 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:52:26am

re: #696 vxbush

I have to wonder at the ability of people who put these items in the surplus bin. Before I stick a hard drive in the surplus pile, i check it at least twice to make sure it's been wiped clean.

We don't even surplus hard drives. It gets wiped, and then I use my patented Kinetic Drive Erasure Tool to ensure complete security.

Or the bandsaw in the shop, but only if Dan isn't watching. Dan gets mad if I abuse the bandsaw blade.

/

702 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:52:56am
703 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:53:21am

re: #696 vxbush

I have to wonder at the ability of people who put these items in the surplus bin. Before I stick a hard drive in the surplus pile, i check it at least twice to make sure it's been wiped clean.


Government employees. Ever been to the DMV? That's the caliber of worker.

704 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:53:40am

re: #674 ArmyWife

It was State democrats who did it, local slime.

Sounds like someone paide attention during the Clinton Administration.

705 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:53:47am

re: #701 OldLineTexan

We don't even surplus hard drives. It gets wiped, and then I use my patented Kinetic Drive Erasure Tool to ensure complete security.

Or the bandsaw in the shop, but only if Dan isn't watching. Dan gets mad if I abuse the bandsaw blade.

/

Heh. Yeah, I've taken a few hard drives apart just to pull the platters off and scratch them up. It feels like payback for all the trouble some drives have given me.

706 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:53:50am

re: #690 ArmyWife

That's not how you succeeded? Wow. I climb up as many backs as I could find. With cleats.

////

LOL! One or two inch spikes?

707 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:54:21am

re: #695 MandyManners

No. It's just the down payment.

708 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:54:25am

re: #695 MandyManners

Is this the largest transfer of wealth in history?


Could be, it's enough to scare the bejebus outta me. Where is the outcry from all the msm and dems about the deficit and 'on the backs of our kids and grandkids'?

709 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:54:40am

re: #676 vxbush

Nummby-num-num.

710 beblebrox  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:54:53am

re: #696 vxbush

I have to wonder at the ability of people who put these items in the surplus bin. Before I stick a hard drive in the surplus pile, i check it at least twice to make sure it's been wiped clean.

As an IT Director, I ave a policy of destroying the drive when it is no longer useful. I have a big Bosch hammerdrill that I drill holes through the platters inside. I figure you can't recover data from what is no longer there.

711 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:54:54am
"Never let a serious crisis go to waste. What I mean by that is it's an opportunity to do things you couldn't do before."

Rahm Emmanuel.

Which statement is true?:

The Bush administration used 9/11 as an excuse to take away your civil rights - meaning, if 9/11 didn't happen, they would've found another way.

or

The Obama administration, MSM and the Dems are using an inflated sense of panic over the economy as an excuse to shove their socialist agenda down your throats.

712 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:54:59am

re: #703 redstateredneck

Government employees. Ever been to the DMV? That's the caliber of worker.

I had a friend who worked at the DMV. He told us stories about some of the driving tests he gave, like the woman who didn't understand what stop signs were for. Not everyone at the DMV is that bad.

713 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:55:17am

re: #694 Bubblehead II

If it makes you feel any better, the Army is no longer allowed to use any external drives (sticks, burned cds, etc). Probably in reaction to this.

714 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:55:28am

re: #705 vxbush

Heh. Yeah, I've taken a few hard drives apart just to pull the platters off and scratch them up. It feels like payback for all the trouble some drives have given me.

We had one type of drive (an unfortunate attempt to create the first CHEEP "big" PC hard drive in a 5.25" format) that was SO bad the final test batch ever seen in this lab were taken to the local rifle range and executed.

715 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:55:53am
716 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:56:29am

re: #695 MandyManners

Is this the largest transfer of wealth in history?

Problem is my just-out-of-college kids don't get that. By the time they do, their parents will be ruined.

717 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:56:37am

Good morning all. Going to have to go to my happy place, today. [Golem zones out.....]

718 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:57:00am

re: #712 vxbush

I had a friend who worked at the DMV. He told us stories about some of the driving tests he gave, like the woman who didn't understand what stop signs were for. Not everyone at the DMV is that bad.


You're right; I shouldn't paint them all with the same brush, but you've got to admit there is a proportionally higher number of government employees who are total f*ck ups than in the private sector.

719 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:57:01am
$600 million for new cars for the federal government.

Bad Citibank. Bad bad bad.

/The One.

720 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:57:20am

I'll bet that you Lizards outside of Illinois think that Governor Blago is a madman for skipping the Senate trial & doing the NY TV talk circuit.
There is a method to the madness, he is trying to influence the jury pool for the criminal trial.
There is a local station CLTV that makes Cspan look exciting.
They did a call in show last night & African Americans were calling in saying that Blago was getting railroaded.
He never considered appointing anyone to the Senate that is not African American & that is common knowledge. One person can hang that jury.

721 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:57:30am

re: #678 vapig

Quite! And proudly so. However, my lifestlye (comfortable) would suggest to them that I must also be a heartless monster who has stepped upon the "little" people along the way. How else could I have succeeded?

/I hate liberals!

I'll never forget this jerk I dated (very briefly) in college who railed against what a vicious bastard my father was because he had quickly climbed the corporate ladder.

722 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:57:31am

re: #712 vxbush

I had a friend who worked at the DMV. He told us stories about some of the driving tests he gave, like the woman who didn't understand what stop signs were for. Not everyone at the DMV is that bad.

At the Texas DMV for my last license renewal, while in the sorting line, I watched an elderly man who clearly could not speak English first get a Spanish-speaking clerk and THEN get six "eye examinations" until he passed one. I drove home in a nervous state THAT day.

723 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:58:01am

re: #710 beblebrox

As an IT Director, I ave a policy of destroying the drive when it is no longer useful. I have a big Bosch hammerdrill that I drill holes through the platters inside. I figure you can't recover data from what is no longer there.

But I'm not allowed to do that, as the company figures someone else in another department may be able to use it. Lucky me. Doesn't mean one or two of the worst offenders haven't ended up in pieces. :D

724 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:58:10am

re: #680 jwb7605

I think he implemented a state health care program. Since it is a money loser, that probably qualifies as a skeleton, whether you want government health care or not.

How would the Left/MFM exploit that?

725 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:58:37am

Good Morning Lizards!

There's a good article over at Big Hollywood about L. Ron Hubbard & Scientology, but if you read between the lines, it's clear who the article is really about.

726 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:59:00am

re: #681 ArmyWife

People don't know the truth about Lincoln (to include our President), do you think they would realize this?

Oh, CBBHO knows. He just lies.

727 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:59:35am

re: #711 Ben Hur

Rahm Emmanuel.

Which statement is true?:

The Bush administration used 9/11 as an excuse to take away your civil rights - meaning, if 9/11 didn't happen, they would've found another way.

or

The Obama administration, MSM and the Dems are using an inflated sense of panic over the economy as an excuse to shove their socialist agenda down your throats.

Worse than that - I just heard Blinky Pelosi on the radio saying that Americans have voted for their mandate and they will follow the will of the people in implimenting that mandate.

They have to wipe us out financially before they can foist national health care on us. Right now we can still afford to bypass them and this is unacceptible to them.

728 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:59:44am

re: #721 MandyManners

Oh for shame! Advancing in a career!

729 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:59:46am

re: #719 Ben Hur

That's just an extra kicker to the UAW.

730 faraway  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 6:59:52am

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Obama

is not pushing ahead with the plans to deploy...the US missile defence system in Poland and the Czech Republic,
731 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:00:06am

re: #689 redstateredneck

and the clean and articulate Obama.

The MFM have selective perception and retention.

732 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:00:10am

re: #696 vxbush

Hard drives don't leave in one piece. I disassemble them and run a torch over the platters before they hit the garbage.

I am not paranoid, I am security conscious.

733 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:00:23am

re: #718 redstateredneck

You're right; I shouldn't paint them all with the same brush, but you've got to admit there is a proportionally higher number of government employees who are total f*ck ups than in the private sector.

I think I figured out why, though. Those who get the jobs in government actually think they know what they're doing. Those of us who have reservations about what we truly know and truly don't end up looking weak, and so we don't get those jobs. The fact that we have the advanced degrees and the actual know-how means nothing if we aren't willing to flaunt that we know more than we do.

So it's all about bravado.

734 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:01:00am

re: #718 redstateredneck

You're right; I shouldn't paint them all with the same brush, but you've got to admit there is a proportionally higher number of government employees who are total f*ck ups than in the private sector.

That's why they stay government employees. As a federal consultant I can tell you that we are the ones who actually do the work.

735 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:01:18am

re: #693 vapig

Honestly? From what I hear black people really believe it was the evil GOP. Also, they seem ignorant of the fact that segregation was not a national malady, but only encompassed a certain demographic area - and only in certain counties there.

Gramscian techniques have been used in education.

736 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:01:36am

re: #724 MandyManners

How would the Left/MFM exploit that?

They already did during the primaries. They called it a 'failed experiment' that the (D) state legislature was fixing. The point is that since the program was unpopular with about half the population, and the program doesn't cover all things to all people, the program is obviously a failure to any potential detractor.

You might remember that Romney did use the health care program as a talking point, but didn't push it at all. That is telling in itself.

737 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:02:32am

re: #729 SasquatchOnSteroids

That's just an extra kicker to the UAW.

I'm sure they'll all be low emission, electric smart cars, no?

738 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:02:37am

re: #730 faraway

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Obama

I knew that was going to happen. Poor Poland always seems to be the sacrificial lamb in uncertain times. Georgia is doomed. Expect a spring invasion.

739 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:03:23am

re: #699 vapig

That's were you see the language difference in their reporting. When a lib misfires it was an unfortunate misstep. When a conservative misspeaks, it's an outrageous racial slur.

If the MFM even acknowledge it.

740 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:03:51am

by the way, anyone watching Red Eye on Fox cable channel? It's on late night and I DVR it, watch it the next day. Hilarious.

741 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:04:11am

re: #713 ArmyWife

My company has the same policy. But tit is geared more to preventing viruses than data theft/loss.

742 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:04:22am

re: #738 vapig

I knew that was going to happen. Poor Poland always seems to be the sacrificial lamb in uncertain times. Georgia is doomed. Expect a spring invasion.

We could see several countries cease to be in the next 4 years - Georgia, Ukraine, Taiwan. There's probably others in the gunsights of the dictators of the world.

743 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:05:00am

re: #740 Golem Akbar

by the way, anyone watching Red Eye on Fox cable channel? It's on late night and I DVR it, watch it the next day. Hilarious.


I should DVR it and give it a look. I see the promos and have wondered about it. No way I can stay up that late!

744 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:05:01am

re: #707 lawhawk

No. It's just the down payment.

re: #708 newsjunkie_ky

Could be, it's enough to scare the bejebus outta me. Where is the outcry from all the msm and dems about the deficit and 'on the backs of our kids and grandkids'?

If this were coming from the GOP, the MFM would be raising hell about it.

745 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:05:29am

re: #717 Golem Akbar

Bit of fog this morning I see.

746 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:06:08am

re: #716 unreconstructed rebel

Problem is my just-out-of-college kids don't get that. By the time they do, their parents will be ruined.

And, so will they.

747 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:06:36am

re: #737 Ben Hur

I'm sure they'll all be low emission, electric smart cars, no?

Wind powered.

748 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:07:05am

re: #720 opnion

I'll bet that you Lizards outside of Illinois think that Governor Blago is a madman for skipping the Senate trial & doing the NY TV talk circuit.
There is a method to the madness, he is trying to influence the jury pool for the criminal trial.
There is a local station CLTV that makes Cspan look exciting.
They did a call in show last night & African Americans were calling in saying that Blago was getting railroaded.
He never considered appointing anyone to the Senate that is not African American & that is common knowledge. One person can hang that jury.

Crafty bastard.

749 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:07:42am

re: #735 MandyManners

Gramscian techniques have been used in education.

Well, yes. They've effectively taken over the government schools and are following the dumbucation that was so effective in Europe. They are churning out soviet-style idiots who have a piece of paper that says they're college grads, but who could never survive in the private sector without "promised" jobs invented for them. We're still allowed to home school our kids and send them to private schools, but I've seen that they are already trying to disenfranchise those kids (i.e. Tennessee announced they won't hire homeschooled kids to state jobs regardless of their test scores.)

750 SurferDoc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:07:50am

re: #641 MandyManners

I've seen the attitude with other African-Americans but, the depth of malice behind throwing Oreos is stunning.

Yes. And the absence of any MSM attention to the malice or of any criticism from the usual tolerance types was and is sickening.

751 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:08:33am

re: #728 ArmyWife

Oh for shame! Advancing in a career!

I kicked him to the curb when he said that.

752 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:08:59am

After our Leader's socko appearance on AL Arabiya, I wonder if he will do a weekly program. It could be call in from all over the Ummah.
"The Barrack Hussein Obama Show! Ulu Ulu Ulu Ulu!"
He could then field calls, apologize for the wickedness of America & share his favorite Koranic passages from his Indonesian school days.

753 eon  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:09:23am

re: #732 Bubblehead II

Hard drives don't leave in one piece. I disassemble them and run a torch over the platters before they hit the garbage.

I am not paranoid, I am security conscious.

I find a two-pound ball-peen hammer works wonders. Plus, I get some wrist exercise. (If you snap your wrist just right, the drive's internal disc splinters with a satisfying crack.)

Followed by a disc-b-que.

cheers

eon

754 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:10:02am

re: #736 jwb7605

They already did during the primaries. They called it a 'failed experiment' that the (D) state legislature was fixing. The point is that since the program was unpopular with about half the population, and the program doesn't cover all things to all people, the program is obviously a failure to any potential detractor.

You might remember that Romney did use the health care program as a talking point, but didn't push it at all. That is telling in itself.

Doesn't Massachusetts now force everyone to carry health insurance?

755 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:10:04am

re: #739 MandyManners

If the MFM even acknowledge it.

Sometimes they have to. Ever hear one of Rush's montage's of newscasters nationwide? City to city and state to state it sounds as though they've all been given the same notes to read - all identical words.

756 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:10:05am

Looks like Obama is striking fear in the hearts of our enemy

Iran tells U.S. to show change in policy not tactics

757 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:10:22am

re: #743 redstateredneck

I should DVR it and give it a look. I see the promos and have wondered about it. No way I can stay up that late!


It's great (conservative, non-pc) humor.

758 Lincolntf  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:10:34am

re: #754 MandyManners

Yup.

759 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:10:44am

The weather is really bad here in Lexington. We have lots of ice and snow and now more snow on top of ice on top of snow.
My daughter called to say there are downed power lines in her back yard. She lives right down the street from me. They still have power right now. The sidewalks are a sheet of ice.
So everyone that is caught in this weather, blame algore.

760 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:12:13am

Muslims Target World's Oldest Monastery on Turkey-Iraq Border

According to the Muslim leaders, there used to be a mosque on the land where the monastery was built. "The accusation is absurd," says David Gelen, leader of the Aramaic Foundation, "the monastery dates from 397 A.D., about 200 years before the prophet Mohammed and the construction of any mosque whatsoever. And yet the court has considered hearing the case."

Funny and sad.

They try this schtick with Jewish holy places as well, and I assume everywhere else.

Of course you know that the White House really was built upon a mosque built by the first muslims to come to North America the day before any Jews came.

761 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:12:33am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

Here's something of interest:

'2:18 PM UNRWA (which gets 75% of its budget from the United States) proudly declares; Increase in Gazans eligible for aid.

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency announced it has increased food aid to residents of the Gaza Strip and is also aiding Palestinian Authority workers who are not receiving their salaries.

UNRWA head in the Strip John Ging said some 900,000 Gazans are now eligible for direct aid from the agency, as opposed to 750,000 from before Operation Cast Lead. (AFP)

Why not do your part for the US economy, and ask President Obama to stop funding UNRWA which provides benefits for terrorists and criminals. (see below)

1:07 PM Report from ynetnews in English (followup from early this morning):
UNRWA pays terrorists

The United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees employs and provides benefits for terrorists and criminals, asserts a former legal adviser to UNRWA who left the organization in 2007. James Lindsay, now a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, served as an attorney with the US Justice Department for two decades before leaving to work for UNRWA in 2000.

Thats from The Muqata, and here is that link to the report by James Lindsay, for downloading.

762 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:13:09am

re: #749 vapig

Well, yes. They've effectively taken over the government schools and are following the dumbucation that was so effective in Europe. They are churning out soviet-style idiots who have a piece of paper that says they're college grads, but who could never survive in the private sector without "promised" jobs invented for them. We're still allowed to home school our kids and send them to private schools, but I've seen that they are already trying to disenfranchise those kids (i.e. Tennessee announced they won't hire homeschooled kids to state jobs regardless of their test scores.)

Oh, what a group of curse would I could put together for that last bit.

763 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:13:16am

re: #749 vapig

Well, yes. They've effectively taken over the government schools and are following the dumbucation that was so effective in Europe. They are churning out soviet-style idiots who have a piece of paper that says they're college grads, but who could never survive in the private sector without "promised" jobs invented for them. We're still allowed to home school our kids and send them to private schools, but I've seen that they are already trying to disenfranchise those kids (i.e. Tennessee announced they won't hire homeschooled kids to state jobs regardless of their test scores.)

WTF? They're gonna' run into some First Amendment issues since many home-schooling parents do so based on religion.

Do you have a link for that? Tennessee is run by Republicans now, the first majority since Reconstruction. That sounds like something California or Massachusetts would do.

764 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:13:34am

re: #752 opnion

After our Leader's socko appearance on AL Arabiya, I wonder if he will do a weekly program. It could be call in from all over the Ummah.
"The Barrack Hussein Obama Show! Ulu Ulu Ulu Ulu!"
He could then field calls, apologize for the wickedness of America & share his favorite Koranic passages from his Indonesian school days.

Don't give him any ideas.

765 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:13:36am

Good morning y'all - from a warm (55 degrees, going up to 65 degrees) rainy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

766 wahabicorridor  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:13:51am

re: #749 vapig

(

i.e. Tennessee announced they won't hire homeschooled kids to state jobs regardless of their test scores.)

WHAT?!

767 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:13:56am

re: #750 SurferDoc

Yes. And the absence of any MSM attention to the malice or of any criticism from the usual tolerance types was and is sickening.

Did anyone report the razzing of Pres. Bush on inaguration day?

768 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:14:04am

This just in:

NBC Nixes PETA's Sex With Veggies Commercial.

If you take away the regular PETA chicks cucumbers-they won't get any action at all. How mean is that?

769 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:14:39am

re: #755 vapig

Sometimes they have to. Ever hear one of Rush's montage's of newscasters nationwide? City to city and state to state it sounds as though they've all been given the same notes to read - all identical words.

They follow the AP ticker and the NYT.

770 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:15:03am

Iran welcomes basic and righteous changes in the US: Ahmadi 'the still living terrorist' Nejad

Iran hails fundamental and righteous changes in the US policy, said Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in its provincial tour to the western Iranian city of Kermanshah on Wednesday.

Iran will look into the US words and actions and any fundamental change is hailed by Iran, he said.

If the new US administration talks of change, it should end support for Zionists who are uncultured, murderer and forged and let Palestinians decide on their own fates....
[...]
He then addressed Obama saying "by changing policy we mean you should allow investigations for the agents behind September 11th and you should also pull out your forces from different countries."

Elsewhere, he moved to the issue of September 11th and said the agents behind the event have not been detected yet and the US did not allow any impartial and fact-finding committee investigates the issue as they did not allow investigation over the Holocaust.

Ah yes, now I can see how our relationship with Tehran will strengthen through the efforts of 'da One.'

771 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:15:20am

re: #749 vapig

Well, yes. They've effectively taken over the government schools and are following the dumbucation that was so effective in Europe. They are churning out soviet-style idiots who have a piece of paper that says they're college grads, but who could never survive in the private sector without "promised" jobs invented for them. We're still allowed to home school our kids and send them to private schools, but I've seen that they are already trying to disenfranchise those kids (i.e. Tennessee announced they won't hire homeschooled kids to state jobs regardless of their test scores.)

"All for the state, nothing outside of the state."
/Mussolini

772 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:15:52am

re: #759 newsjunkie_ky

The weather is really bad here in Lexington. We have lots of ice and snow and now more snow on top of ice on top of snow.
My daughter called to say there are downed power lines in her back yard. She lives right down the street from me. They still have power right now. The sidewalks are a sheet of ice.
So everyone that is caught in this weather, blame algore.

Hiya, {newsjunkie_ky}!

Don't go out - keep safe and warm indoors.
Sheets of ice are not good for walking on - I should know, I tried it with bad results a week or so ago!

Take care!

773 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:15:53am

Harry Potter and the Zionist Conspiracy

Literary criticism, Iranian style!

774 SurferDoc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:15:59am

re: #749 vapig

Well, yes. They've effectively taken over the government schools and are following the dumbucation that was so effective in Europe. They are churning out soviet-style idiots who have a piece of paper that says they're college grads, but who could never survive in the private sector without "promised" jobs invented for them. We're still allowed to home school our kids and send them to private schools, but I've seen that they are already trying to disenfranchise those kids (i.e. Tennessee announced they won't hire homeschooled kids to state jobs regardless of their test scores.)

Lawsuit. Class action, Civil Rights. A couple of billion ought to be a good place to start.

775 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:16:04am

re: #749 vapig

I've seen that they are already trying to disenfranchise those kids (i.e. Tennessee announced they won't hire homeschooled kids to state jobs regardless of their test scores.)

Sorta like buying the union label?

776 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:16:08am

re: #765 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a warm (55 degrees, going up to 65 degrees) rainy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

{real}!
I'm good; you?

777 wahabicorridor  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:16:21am

re: #765 realwest

You're LATE!

778 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:18:07am

Okay, I gotta find something that I can eat that will stay down. Back in a bit.

779 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:18:10am

re: #768 WriterMom

This just in:

NBC Nixes PETA's Sex With Veggies Commercial.

If you take away the regular PETA chicks cucumbers-they won't get any action at all. How mean is that?

What's she gonna do with that pumpkin? No, don't tell me...I don't wanna know.

780 J.S.  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:18:34am

re: #722 OldLineTexan

In Alberta, back in 1993, the provincial government privatized the equivalent of the Department of Motor Vehicles. There is very, very little by way of any government oversight. This has led to a number of problems (including schemes which are, in fact, a danger to the public -- especially when one has truck drivers not knowing how to drive big rigs, yet have a license to operate these vehicles.) The Edmonton Journal noted the following:

Law enforcement and government sources have told The Journal that van-loads of B.C. residents, most of East Indian descent, have travelled to Alberta from the Lower Mainland [in British Columbia] to get false driver's licences, especially Class 1 licences that allow them to operate semi-trailer trucks.

Here is how that could be done.

- Through word of mouth, and advertisements in Punjabi language newspapers, an Alberta driving school owner or instructor lets it be known that he can arrange Class 1 licences with no training for a fee.

- A group of people travel to Calgary in a van and are put up in a local motel. The school owner provides them with Calgary addresses so they can claim to be Alberta residents.

- After receiving a fee of up to $25,000, the owner sends his client to a doctor who for a fee provides a fraudulent document which shows that person has passed their truck-driver's physical.

- Driver-training schools in Alberta are allowed by law to conduct driver-training examinations, including both the written and road test. The school owner would simply provide his client with fraudulent documents that show the client passed the tests without the client even taking them.

- All those documents are then presented to a registry, which issues the licence. The registry is responsible for verifying the information contained in the documents. Its owner may also be involved in the scheme, again for a share of the fee.

781 Lincolntf  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:19:08am

re: #770 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Iran is being smart. They'll string Obama along with go-nowhere "discussions" and "negotiations" right up until the day they complete their first nuclear weapon. Then they'll be the ones "dictating", and we'll be the ones relegated to "listening".
If ever there was a secret society of evil Joos running our country, then they sure screwed up with Obama. Bad cabal!

782 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:19:26am

re: #773 Kenneth

Harry Potter and the Zionist Conspiracy

Literary criticism, Iranian style!

Gah.
Can't play no videos at all - something wrong with my broadband connection (I still got some hair left on my head, in spite of the huge frustrations ...).
Updinged you anyway - Harry Potter a Zionist?
Gerraway!

783 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:19:43am

re: #749 vapig

Well, yes. They've effectively taken over the government schools and are following the dumbucation that was so effective in Europe. They are churning out soviet-style idiots who have a piece of paper that says they're college grads, but who could never survive in the private sector without "promised" jobs invented for them. We're still allowed to home school our kids and send them to private schools, but I've seen that they are already trying to disenfranchise those kids (i.e. Tennessee announced they won't hire homeschooled kids to state jobs regardless of their test scores.)

You make a good point, but seriously.... what home schooled kid would want a public sector job anyway? They're likely bound for something a little more cerebral, doncha think?

784 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:19:51am

re: #765 realwest

Morning RW.

785 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:20:11am

re: #772 yma o hyd

Hiya, {newsjunkie_ky}!

Don't go out - keep safe and warm indoors.
Sheets of ice are not good for walking on - I should know, I tried it with bad results a week or so ago!

Take care!


{yma o hyd}
Not going to make that mistake again. I still have a lump on the right bum from my fall on ice just before Christmas.
Hope you are feeling better.

786 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:21:13am

re: #765 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a warm (55 degrees, going up to 65 degrees) rainy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Hiya {rw}!

Looks like you've got Spring just round the corner!

Its not as cold here as it was, about 40s or so, sun actually out, but gales predicted for later ...

Otherwise, we're well!

787 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:22:33am

re: #782 yma o hyd

Here's a quote from the video for you:

"The Zionists support Harry Potter because he is their promised Messiah."

788 subsailor68  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:22:40am

Morning all. Apologies if this has already been covered (didn't go all the way back in comments):

Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

"Theyrrrrreeeee Heeeeerreee." (Poltergeist)

789 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:22:53am

re: #776 redstateredneck
HI ya {red} - I'md doing ok, thanks - gotta bunch of chores to do today but otherwise just fine!
How are you doing?

790 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:23:05am

re: #754 MandyManners

Doesn't Massachusetts now force everyone to carry health insurance?

"Force", or "require" -- I don't know. Maybe a Mass. lizard could reply?

791 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:23:45am

re: #785 newsjunkie_ky

{yma o hyd}
Not going to make that mistake again. I still have a lump on the right bum from my fall on ice just before Christmas.
Hope you are feeling better.

Had a nice run-about with Madame Dog earlier today. a sweet but very rambunctious Border Collie plus Chow tried playing with her. He was about a year old, and was going to the vet later, to get the snip ...
Madame thought he was a bit beneath her dignity, teeheehee!

792 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:24:06am

re: #777 wahabicorridor
Tibbpth! I already got my degree so I don't care! Thibbpth! LOL!
Yeah, I've been busy with e-mails this morning, how are you doing today?

793 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:24:14am

re: #780 J.S.

In Alberta, back in 1993, the provincial government privatized the equivalent of the Department of Motor Vehicles. There is very, very little by way of any government oversight. This has led to a number of problems (including schemes which are, in fact, a danger to the public -- especially when one has truck drivers not knowing how to drive big rigs, yet have a license to operate these vehicles.) The Edmonton Journal noted the following:

And they can enter the United States:

Immigration regulations and policies have long held that alien truck drivers may qualify for admission as B-1 visitors for business to pick up or deliver cargo traveling in the stream of international commerce....
Canadian citizens entering the United States as visitors for business do not require either a passport or a visa. However, each applicant for admission is required to satisfy the inspecting officer of his or her citizenship. An oral declaration may be accepted or the inspecting officer may require supporting documentation, for example, a birth certificate, certificate of citizenship or a passport (valid or expired). In addition, all travelers should carry some form of photo-identification.


Not good.

794 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:25:25am

re: #787 Kenneth

Here's a quote from the video for you:

"The Zionists support Harry Potter because he is their promised Messiah."

Oh-my-Gawd!

I bet PB0 will now forbid Harry Potter on the same grounds, seeing that he, PB0, is the actual 'One' ...

You can't make this delusion up!

795 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:25:26am

re: #784 Bubblehead II
Morning, how are you doing?

796 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:26:13am

re: #783 eschew_obfuscation

You make a good point, but seriously.... what home schooled kid would want a public sector job anyway? They're likely bound for something a little more cerebral, doncha think?

Being a state trooper is not cerebral? Being an agent of the TBI isn't cerebral? Working as a TA in a grad. program at UTK or MSU isn't cerebral?

797 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:26:32am

re: #785 newsjunkie_ky
Hey there {news} - good to see you out here - when y'all get a chance please check your e-mail!

798 Lincolntf  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:26:42am

re: #790 jwb7605

For now

Here's the wiki on MA health insurance. I know that there's an org. that has tracked the expense vs. promised results and found the program to be a boondoggle, but I can't recall the name right now. When it occurs to me, I'll post a link.

799 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:27:27am

re: #794 yma o hyd

The video also included the expression:

"Ziono-Hollywoodists"

That's a keeper!

800 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:28:13am

re: #786 yma o hyd
Hi {yma} - Well around the NEXT corner, maybe - the whole east coast - including N.C. is supposed to get a huge dose of global warming/climate change - maybe 10-12" in N.E. over the weekend! LOL!
How are you feeling today ?

801 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:28:51am

re: #799 Kenneth

The video also included the expression:

That's a keeper!

Blimey!
Thats nearly as good as the 'honco' stuff!

What a hoot!

802 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:29:33am

re: #788 subsailor68
Hey subsailor - yeah we kicked that around last night and my considered response to them was "Fuck You."
So how are you doing today?

803 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:29:39am
"They could never make a James Bond movie like any of the Bourne films," Damon said. "Because Bond is an imperialist, misogynist sociopath who goes around bedding women and swilling martinis and killing people. He's repulsive.

Pardon my language, but,

Matt Damon.

P*ssy.

804 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:29:49am

Pay attention to your state budgets and any proposed cuts in the budgets.

Obama is promising billions to states in handouts, yet, many states right now are planning on cutting budgets. Pay attention to what your state wants to cut.

Such as here in Colorado, Ritter, a Dem, want to cut all kinds of benefits to senior citizens, child health, and health care.

Why, because he know that Obama wants to set up socialized medicine, so he expects the feds to take up the slack.

Oh, he's not publicly saying it that way, but that's the direction it's going in.

Remember, the governors met in DC a few months ago. If all the politicians are whining at the state level about certain budgetary short-falls, it will only help boost Obama's socialist plans.

Think about it.

805 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:30:02am

re: #798 Lincolntf

For now

Here's the wiki on MA health insurance. I know that there's an org. that has tracked the expense vs. promised results and found the program to be a boondoggle, but I can't recall the name right now. When it occurs to me, I'll post a link.

That spells out the number one reason I didn't support Romney in the primaries.
In fairness, though, I think he caved on the issue, and just signed the bill.
If true, even that indicated how he would govern as president.
If false, boondoggle sums it up.

806 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:30:46am

re: #803 Ben Hur

Where's that quote from? MATTTTTTTTT DAAAAAAAAAAAAMON.

He is a wanker. I would happily do Daniel Craig. And hello-Roger Moore? Totally hot.

807 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:30:47am

Recently, the Tennessee State Board of Education ruled diplomas issued to home-schooled students from religious based schools were invalid as proof of the successful completion of High School should it be presented for employment purposes for a job for which state law requires a diploma. You read that right. According to the State Board of Education, all diplomas are equal but some diplomas are more equal than others.

SNIP

The Board of Education’s rationale is since they had no input over the curricula which resulted in the diploma, they won’t recognize the diploma since they don’t know what it represents. For instance, the diploma could mean only that the student had 12 years of school yet cannot read well enough to complete an employment application and will need remedial classes for his first year of college.

SNIP

808 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:30:48am

re: #794 yma o hyd
"You can't make this delusion up!" A hundred updings if I could! LOL!

809 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:30:51am

Good morning from the Land of Larceny.

I ran across a series of YouTube videos from Senator Dan Rutherford (R-Pontiac) regarding the Senate trial of Rod Blagojevich. He's doing two of these updates a day. Here's the first one from Monday:

I'll post the next three, and anymore that come up today.

810 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:31:01am

re: #804 Walter L. Newton

Gov. O'Malley is running around saying MD will get over a billion in this package, not too worry, we will be saved. Sigh.

811 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:31:16am

re: #803 Ben Hur

Pardon my language, but,

Matt Damon.

P*ssy.

Link?

812 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:31:24am

"Cello scrotum" exposed as a hoax

A medical ailment that has worried male members of string sections across the music world for over 30 years has been exposed as a hoax. Male cellists of the world can breathe easy again.

A senior British lawmaker confessed to making up the condition known as "cello scrotum" -- which relates to chafing from the instrument -- after reading about another musically-related ailment called "guitarist's nipple" in the British Medical Journal in 1974.

Well, that's a relief!

813 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:31:27am

re: #795 realwest

Hanging in there. Just started my weekend so I get to lounge around a bit until the missus find something that I just have to do, today, within the next hour.

She just doesn't realize how important LGF really is. :-)

814 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:31:29am

re: #804 Walter L. Newton

Pay attention to your state budgets and any proposed cuts in the budgets.

Obama is promising billions to states in handouts, yet, many states right now are planning on cutting budgets. Pay attention to what your state wants to cut.

Such as here in Colorado, Ritter, a Dem, want to cut all kinds of benefits to senior citizens, child health, and health care.

Why, because he know that Obama wants to set up socialized medicine, so he expects the feds to take up the slack.
I see you're paying attention.
Idle question: do you ever sleep?
Oh, he's not publicly saying it that way, but that's the direction it's going in.

Remember, the governors met in DC a few months ago. If all the politicians are whining at the state level about certain budgetary short-falls, it will only help boost Obama's socialist plans.

Think about it.

815 subsailor68  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:31:34am

re: #802 realwest

Hey subsailor - yeah we kicked that around last night and my considered response to them was "Fuck You."
So how are you doing today?

Hey RW! Good to see ya. Doing great here. Got a bit of a cold spell (in the 20's last night) but trust me, no way am I complaining when I hear what lizards are going through in other parts of the country!

Sigh, I always end up finding stuff that everyone's already seen. Gotta work on that.

BTW, I think your considered response is entirely appropriate!

:-)

816 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:31:56am

Here's the second one from Monday:

817 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:31:59am

re: #806 WriterMom

Where's that quote from? MATTTTTTTTT DAAAAAAAAAAAAMON.

He is a wanker. I would happily do Daniel Craig. And hello-Roger Moore? Totally hot.

Sean Connery...still hot.

818 tfc3rid  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:32:03am

Morning all!

Yet another pain in the as commute in when we get about 4 inches of snow... Some nice pics on my site of the lack of interest by folks around where I live to actually shovel snow, or by NYC to plow...

So, has President BHO does anything dumb today? It's only a matter of time.

Down with Stimulus! I know it will pass but I want Republicans to stay away... Far, far away from this...

Any bets on if the RINO's in the Senate will vote on it?

819 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:32:07am

re: #799 Kenneth
Hey good morning Kenneth! How are you doing today?

820 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:32:11am

re: #800 realwest

Hi {yma} - Well around the NEXT corner, maybe - the whole east coast - including N.C. is supposed to get a huge dose of global warming/climate change - maybe 10-12" in N.E. over the weekend! LOL!
How are you feeling today ?

It's already started here. We're being hammered. Can't even get out of our driveway. Am sitting here waiting for the plow to show up.

821 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:32:30am

re: #800 realwest

Hi {yma} - Well around the NEXT corner, maybe - the whole east coast - including N.C. is supposed to get a huge dose of global warming/climate change - maybe 10-12" in N.E. over the weekend! LOL!
How are you feeling today ?

I've been exercising my patience-muscle to day ...
Something wrong with my broadband ... lots of stuff done with the tech support, housekeeping on my poor laptop, still no videoa - did speed checks, turns out im gettin about 1 % of what I ought to get, speedwise.
Aww!
Didn't scream, no tantrums - really being softly spoken.
Have to wait and see if it gets better tomorrow - they do come up with fancy explanations ...
So - no videos for me, at all!

The only site which loads good and fast is, you guessed it, LGF!
Thank you, Charles!

822 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:32:55am

re: #817 redstateredneck

OH YESSSSSSSSS

823 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:33:05am

Sen. Dan Rutherford (R-Pontiac) on Blagojevich from Tuesday (Parts 1 and 2):

824 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:33:12am

re: #764 redstateredneck

Don't give him any ideas.

It would do him in or make him a radio star.

825 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:33:15am

re: #803 Ben Hur

"...Bond is an imperialist, misogynist sociopath who goes around bedding women and swilling martinis and killing people. He's repulsive.

He says that like it's a bad thing!

826 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:33:51am

re: #803 Ben Hur

Pardon my language, but,

Matt Damon.

P*ssy.


Dissing Connery/Bond? Matt Damon, you suck! [there, I said it]

827 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:33:52am

re: #756 ArmyWife

Looks like Obama is striking fear in the hearts of our enemy

Iran tells U.S. to show change in policy not tactics

Obama has signaled that he will engage in direct talks with Iran without preconditions. He's signaled that dictators and despots have nothing to fear. He's signaled that the march towards freedom, led by the US, is over.

50 million people were liberated from dictatorial and tyrannical regimes, and Obama considers this a mistake. He's out there on Arab tv apologizing for past administrations actions. Great.

He's about to make the world a whole lot more dangerous because all too many regimes, Iran in particular, will see such statements as signs of weakness to be exploited.

And US interests and those of our allies will suffer all the more as a result.

828 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:33:56am

re: #817 redstateredneck

Sean Connery...still hot.



Any excuse to post this photo.

829 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:34:00am

re: #796 MandyManners

Being a state trooper is not cerebral? Being an agent of the TBI isn't cerebral? Working as a TA in a grad. program at UTK or MSU isn't cerebral?

Oh all right..... I was thinking beaurocrat not those things..... you win...

830 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:34:25am

re: #814 jwb7605

PIMF! I managed to put a reply in before the </blockquote>.
Reply was so simple I didn't bother with the preview button.

Should have been:
I see you're paying attention.
Idle question: do you ever sleep?

831 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:35:23am

re: #781 Lincolntf

Iran is being smart. They'll string Obama along with go-nowhere "discussions" and "negotiations" right up until the day they complete their first nuclear weapon. Then they'll be the ones "dictating", and we'll be the ones relegated to "listening".
If ever there was a secret society of evil Joos running our country, then they sure screwed up with Obama. Bad cabal!

I'm afraid it's a lot worse than that. Putin & Tehran are boxing Obummer into a corner and Obummer, for his part, is not going to know he's backed into the corner until he feels both walls against his back. Then it's, 'game, set and match!'

832 J.S.  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:35:31am

re: #793 redstateredneck

hmmm...the requirements for "business" entry to the U.S. may only require a birth certificate? Interestingly, that's another feature provided by Alberta's private registries...yeah, they can get you a birth certificate, no problemo...(from the Alberta website: "Nearly 12 million transactions are conducted through Alberta Registries each year, including the issuing and renewing of drivers’ licences, registrations of birth, marriage and death, land title searches and transfers, and registrations of corporations, vehicles, and liens. The majority of these services are available from registry agents located in communities throughout the province...")

Yeah, not good.

833 beblebrox  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:35:51am

re: #723 vxbush

But I'm not allowed to do that, as the company figures someone else in another department may be able to use it. Lucky me. Doesn't mean one or two of the worst offenders haven't ended up in pieces. :D

that's why i like being Director. It's good to be the king. :)

834 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:36:05am

I know we don't talk TV ratings here, but most of us loathe NBC because of their extremely biased news coverage. So if you take a look at this week's top 20 shows, it appears some karma may be at work. Of the top 20 shows, there is not a single NBC show, which is humiliating for the peacock network.

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

And in a delicious little side note, only one NBC show appears in the top 20 for the younger demographic sample. That show? "The Biggest Loser!"

Maybe keith dobermann can do a story on THAT tonight.

835 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:36:10am

re: #825 Kenneth

Yah. Whereas he is more like "And I am a soy-latte swilling vegan wannabee who drives a Prius and talks to my girlfriends about their feeeeeeelings, and I just joined a knitting circle".

836 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:36:22am

re: #791 yma o hyd

Had a nice run-about with Madame Dog earlier today. a sweet but very rambunctious Border Collie plus Chow tried playing with her. He was about a year old, and was going to the vet later, to get the snip ...
Madame thought he was a bit beneath her dignity, teeheehee!


LOL, Madame is a Lady afterall.

837 CIA Reject  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:36:59am
Outside intelligences, exploring the Solar System with true impartiality, would be quite likely to enter the Sun in their records thus: Star X, spectral class G0, 4 planets plus debris.

— Isaac Asimov

I still prefer "mostly harmless"...

Good Morning Everybody!

838 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:37:02am

Good (late) morning, Lizards. No school because of the ice/snow.

839 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:37:10am

re: #819 realwest

I'm doing fine, but I have had it up to here with this snow and winter crap. Wife & I are planning an escape to somewhere south hot & sunny for a week. How are you doing?

840 subsailor68  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:37:16am

OT, but Monday night, just as 24 started, my cable began to do a video spit and hiss. Looked more like a slide show than a television program.

So I called my Time Warner help number. Explained the problem to someone in Calcutta. He said "Do not woooory. We poost your seegnel."

I said "what?"

He said, "We pooost your seegnel. Better now."

I said, "Whatever you're trying to say, it's certainly not better."

He said, "Seeegnel poosted. Better now. Bye-bye."

I've scheduled my Dish network installation for this morning.

841 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:37:18am

re: #813 Bubblehead II
ROFL! Well just tell her you're kinda busy saving Democracy out here and to just add whatever it is she wants done to the "Honey-Do" list!

842 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:37:54am

re: #828 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Any excuse to post this photo.

Sean Connery has only gotten better with age.
And his accent......wow very sexy.

843 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:38:04am

re: #815 subsailor68
Why thankew, thankew very much!

844 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:38:23am

re: #797 realwest

Hey there {news} - good to see you out here - when y'all get a chance please check your e-mail!

Morning RW. Checked and replied.
The snow is really coming down now. HUGE flakes and the temp is dropping fast. Just saw neighbor pulling up in his car, he said it was awful out there and he was not going out again.

845 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:38:31am

re: #838 goddessoftheclassroom

Good (late) morning, Lizards. No school because of the ice/snow.

SNOW DAY! ! !

846 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:38:31am

re: #814 jwb7605

Yes. My busy days are Fri., Sat., and Sun. at the theatre. Before the shows, I do everything from clean toilets, vacuum, facility chores and during the show I run the shows from the control booth.

So, Mon.-Thurs. I have more time for myself, although I am still on call 24/7. I can also be running around "propping" a show, building sets, production meetings etc.

Total hours for the week is anywhere from 25 up, so, at times it's like being semi-retired. But, then again, so is the salary.

I sleep about 8 hours a night.

847 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:39:28am

re: #820 rightymouse
Hi {righty}! Wow, where are you again?

848 tfc3rid  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:39:31am

re: #788 subsailor68

The Dems are starting this to begin implementation of the Fairness Dcotrine...

849 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:39:56am

re: #829 eschew_obfuscation

Oh all right..... I was thinking beaurocrat not those things..... you win...

I don't think all bureaucrats are dumb. Sure, a state job carries with it a certain assurance that you really have to fuck up in order to get fired but, they're not all dumb. But, just like in the private sector, it's the dumb and incompetent who stick in our minds instead of those who efficiently do their jobs.

850 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:39:57am

re: #826 Golem Akbar

Dissing Connery/Bond? Matt Damon, you suck! [there, I said it]

Classic Matt Damon:

851 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:40:30am

re: #804 Walter L. Newton

Pay attention to your state budgets and any proposed cuts in the budgets.

Obama is promising billions to states in handouts, yet, many states right now are planning on cutting budgets. Pay attention to what your state wants to cut.

Such as here in Colorado, Ritter, a Dem, want to cut all kinds of benefits to senior citizens, child health, and health care.

Why, because he know that Obama wants to set up socialized medicine, so he expects the feds to take up the slack.

Oh, he's not publicly saying it that way, but that's the direction it's going in.

Remember, the governors met in DC a few months ago. If all the politicians are whining at the state level about certain budgetary short-falls, it will only help boost Obama's socialist plans.

Think about it.


We have a conservative talk radio guy here that is staying on top of things for KY and Lexington. Our mayor requested over $500 million, some of which he wants to spend to CLEAN signs downtown. ($76,000).

852 phoenixgirl  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:40:31am

re: #811 MandyManners

link to a pussy?/

853 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:40:34am

re: #827 lawhawk

You are spot on. His naivete is glaring here. He doesn't understand his "reaching out" to despots is viewed as a positive by both the despots and the MSM - only their reasons for it being positive are different. Along the same vein, he believes he is changing the world, I believe he is too.

854 Throbert McGee  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:40:46am

re: #768 WriterMom

This just in:

NBC Nixes PETA's Sex With Veggies Commercial.

I suspect that getting their ad nixed was PETA's intention all along -- this way they get some publicity without actually having to pay for airtime during the SuperBowl.

(Reason #381 to hate PETA: If average households across America replaced half of their weekly meat, dairy, and egg intake with vegan alternatives, and stuck with this new diet for the long term, the natural environment would be better off and people would still be able to enjoy their burgers and ice cream and omelettes -- just less often and/or in smaller portions. In some cases -- depending on current consumption levels and other variables -- such a long-term change would also benefit our blood cholesterol levels and our household budgets. But PETA doesn't want to encourage this sort of workable semi-vegetarianism that people might actually be willing to try and stick with, because they'd rather be Puritanistic scolds.)

855 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:40:59am
856 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:41:04am

re: #839 Kenneth

I'm doing fine, but I have had it up to here with this snow and winter crap. Wife & I are planning an escape to somewhere south hot & sunny for a week. How are you doing?

Do you need a travelling maid? I come cheap.

857 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:41:08am

re: #763 MandyManners

WTF? They're gonna' run into some First Amendment issues since many home-schooling parents do so based on religion.

Do you have a link for that? Tennessee is run by Republicans now, the first majority since Reconstruction. That sounds like something California or Massachusetts would do.

I heard about the story here at LGF. This is the only link I've found (I might have saved the story here, but I don't have it organized and it could take hours to find the story.

However, in looking for this story I was shocked (SHOCKED, I say!) at how many activist groups are out there in multiple states that are attacking homeschoolers.

Here are a few of them here, here and here.

It's becoming apparant that like Germany, libs want to ban homeschooling.

858 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:41:12am

re: #853 ArmyWife

You are spot on. His naivete is glaring here. He doesn't understand his "reaching out" to despots is viewed as a positive by both the despots and the MSM - only their reasons for it being positive are different. Along the same vein, he believes he is changing the world, I believe he is too.

My mom noticed that the presdient also referred to his Muslim experiences as a child to boost his cred.

859 subsailor68  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:41:16am

re: #848 tfc3rid

The Dems are starting this to begin implementation of the Fairness Dcotrine...

Oh I don't think you could be more right about that. Realwest's considered response is just what I was thinking myself.

:-)

860 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:41:20am

re: #822 WriterMom

The wife is all hot for Daniel Craig as Bond. We watched Casino Royal last night on TV. Frankly, I'm a little nervous about that look in her eye she gets during the naked Bond on the cane chair scene. Hmmm...

I got a real laugh out of Quantum of Solace, in that the villain was a faux-environmentalist getting rich off of do-gooders and liberal governments. Kinda like Al Gore!

861 Lincolntf  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:41:47am

re: #805 jwb7605

I wish that all Republican leaders would stand fast on all of their principles, but it's just not realistic. For a conservative like Romney to win in MA, he had to compromise. In order to actually function as Gov., he had to compromise even more. It's no exaggeration to say that 85-90% of the State Leg. is (D) and a majority of them are of the moonbat variety (including all Legislative leaders). The State is a one-Party mess, and if Romney wanted the government to function at all, he had to cave. It wasn't pretty to watch, and Romney tried very hard to make it a more privatized "encouragement" plan rather than a mandate with penalties, but the inertia of MA politics won the day, as it nearly always does.

862 yma o hyd  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:41:50am

BBIAW

863 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:42:05am

MadObama
MAD magazine spoofs a stressed-out President Obama -- cigs, Pepto and all. CNN's Jeanne Moos covers the latest cover.

864 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:42:22am

re: #756 ArmyWife

I can't find your reply above, but, yes, all of these governors are going to work hand in hand with the feds. No one is going to want to miss out of this money.

It's a setup.

865 beblebrox  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:42:25am

re: #838 goddessoftheclassroom

Good (late) morning, Lizards. No school because of the ice/snow.

Morning GOTC! Is it still snowing up your way, or is it ice and rain? kind of a sloppy mix down here in Allegheny County.

866 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:42:39am

re: #827 lawhawk
Hi lawhawk! Said it yesterday but it does bear repeating: could someone PLEASE tell Obama that he is the President of the United States, not President of the World - and his first responisibility - actually his ONLY responsibility is to protect and defend America.
The rest of the world he can take care of in his spare time.

867 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:42:43am

re: #842 Typicalwhitey

Sorry I bailed out last night. I was remembering some stuff that just set my teeth on edge. I forgot to say one thing:

CONGRATULATIONS, G-MA!

868 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:42:51am

re: #847 realwest

Hi {righty}! Wow, where are you again?


NE Ohio. And it stinks outside right now. Schools closed and I can't even get out of the driveway. Well, it's a loooong driveway and we live in the boonies.

869 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:42:55am

re: #842 Typicalwhitey

Sean Connery has only gotten better with age.
And his accent......wow very sexy.


I'll take anal bum cover for $500 Alex....

870 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:43:08am

re: #831 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

But for the ramifications, it would be fun to watch. He will be flummoxed by the whole ordeal "I reached out! I discussed! We engaged in idea sharing! We had cookies! How could this have gone wrong?!?"

Repeat this with Iran, Abba, Fill in the Name of Dictator/Despot here.

871 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:43:26am

re: #835 WriterMom

Knitting circle! Gah! Probably working on a Che pullover.

872 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:43:55am

re: #851 newsjunkie_ky

We have a conservative talk radio guy here that is staying on top of things for KY and Lexington. Our mayor requested over $500 million, some of which he wants to spend to CLEAN signs downtown. ($76,000).

Yes, CLEAN signs, I got his clean sign, right here!

873 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:44:01am

re: #848 tfc3rid

The Dems are starting this to begin implementation of the Fairness Dcotrine...

Rush has his own petition.
Reverse petition.

874 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:44:16am

re: #840 subsailor68

OT, but Monday night, just as 24 started, my cable began to do a video spit and hiss. Looked more like a slide show than a television program.

So I called my Time Warner help number. Explained the problem to someone in Calcutta. He said "Do not woooory. We poost your seegnel."

I said "what?"

He said, "We pooost your seegnel. Better now."

I said, "Whatever you're trying to say, it's certainly not better."

He said, "Seeegnel poosted. Better now. Bye-bye."

I've scheduled my Dish network installation for this morning.

PROBLEM #1 ,, No cable co. can "boost your signal" from an office. They can re-authorize you cable box, add or delete channels, but tje signal strength comes from either the pedastal (if you live where there are underground utilities) or at the pole. There are amplifiers and pads to balance the strenght of signal thereall through the main lines.
PROBLEM #2,, Dish Network and/ or Direct TV are both great, but if you live in an area with frequent torrential rains you will lose signal. Also if you live where it snows make sure the installer takes that into considertion. You may have to get the snow/ ice off the dich at times

875 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:44:18am

re: #861 Lincolntf

I wish that all Republican leaders would stand fast on all of their principles, but it's just not realistic. For a conservative like Romney to win in MA, he had to compromise. In order to actually function as Gov., he had to compromise even more. It's no exaggeration to say that 85-90% of the State Leg. is (D) and a majority of them are of the moonbat variety (including all Legislative leaders). The State is a one-Party mess, and if Romney wanted the government to function at all, he had to cave. It wasn't pretty to watch, and Romney tried very hard to make it a more privatized "encouragement" plan rather than a mandate with penalties, but the inertia of MA politics won the day, as it nearly always does.

As president, he would have nearly the same situation in the House/Senate (although not at the 85% level), which I took into account.

There was also a hissy fit about him flip-flopping on the abortion issue. Was that a similar thing?

876 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:44:26am

re: #774 SurferDoc

Lawsuit. Class action, Civil Rights. A couple of billion ought to be a good place to start.

They lost in California.

877 Ben Hur  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:44:28am

re: #811 MandyManners

Link?

Google it.

I will not admit to going to gossip sites.

878 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:44:28am

re: #856 MandyManners

Sure, you can bring the Kid and look after our boy while wife & I frolick in the waves.

879 aggieann  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:44:29am

re: #722 OldLineTexan

At the Texas DMV for my last license renewal, while in the sorting line, I watched an elderly man who clearly could not speak English first get a Spanish-speaking clerk and THEN get six "eye examinations" until he passed one. I drove home in a nervous state THAT day.

My in-laws from Kerrville in the Texas Hill Country tell of the time they were in line at the DMV and an elderly woman demanded that the clerk let her take the test on behalf of her husband, since he was legally blind.

880 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:44:41am

re: #858 goddessoftheclassroom

He simply doesn't know what he doesn't know and the free world is in a precarious place as a result.

881 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:45:11am

re: #834 _RememberTonyC
AND six of the top 15 are FOX. FU, Obama and the Dems!

882 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:45:13am

re: #865 beblebrox

Morning GOTC! Is it still snowing up your way, or is it ice and rain? kind of a sloppy mix down here in Allegheny County.

Icy rain now, but it's supposed to turn to snow.
this is the recent statement:
Special Weather Statement

Statement as of 7:37 AM EST on January 28, 2009

Expires 11:45 AM EST on January 28, 2009

... Widespread freezing rain...

Widespread freezing rain is occurring across the area with surface
temperatures running from 28 to 32 degrees. Ice will continue to
accumulate on all exposed surfaces for at least through mid
morning.

Travel is hazardous and walking be dangerous on any untreated
surfaces. Power outages are likely as ice continues to accumulate
and winds pick up later this morning and afternoon.

This is a dangerous situation. Take extreme caution.

I'm not going anywhere today...

883 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:45:28am

re: #851 newsjunkie_ky

We have a conservative talk radio guy here that is staying on top of things for KY and Lexington. Our mayor requested over $500 million, some of which he wants to spend to CLEAN signs downtown. ($76,000).

I have a solution: send low-level misdemeanants and traffic scofflaws out with bottles of Windex.

884 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:45:28am

re: #841 realwest

You mean that two inch three ring binder filled with single spaced double sided typed pages that she can't fit anything else in?

885 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:45:51am

re: #866 realwest

That cannot be repeated enough:

could someone PLEASE tell Obama that he is the President of the United States, not President of the World -

1000 updings.

886 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:46:16am

re: #866 realwest

Hi lawhawk! Said it yesterday but it does bear repeating: could someone PLEASE tell Obama that he is the President of the United States, not President of the World - and his first responisibility - actually his ONLY responsibility is to protect and defend America.
The rest of the world he can take care of in his spare time. when he retires

FTFY

{realwest}

887 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:46:24am

re: #854 Throbert McGee

Yes, you're probably right. I was just reading about a (New York Times?) food writer who was overweight, blah blah. He stopped eating animal based foods till 6:00-only put a little cream in his coffee, and had a regular dinner each night and lost 40 pounds, cholesterol dropped, etc...I definitely think most people eat too much animal-based protein.

888 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:46:25am

re: #872 Walter L. Newton

How about we take prisoners and waive the abuse of chain gang shackling, hand them a bottle of Windex, a roll of paper towels, a few ladders and tell them to hop to it.

889 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:46:48am

re: #883 MandyManners

You are so very bright. I am in awe of your brilliance!

890 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:46:49am

Good Morning Lizards!
Hulp us Al Gore..We got 10" of global warming last night.

891 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:46:51am

re: #866 realwest

Hi lawhawk! Said it yesterday but it does bear repeating: could someone PLEASE tell Obama that he is the President of the United States, not President of the World - and his first responsibility - actually his ONLY responsibility is to protect and defend America.
The rest of the world he can take care of in his spare time.

But, but, but, we being told he's the ONE, The Messiah, The King...

And we are to remember the golden rule...

He who has the gold, makes the rules...

-S-

*spit*

892 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:47:00am

re: #838 goddessoftheclassroom Hey! Hi there {goddess} you have too much snow in the Pittsburgh area ALREADY to be able to have school? WOW. Hope you're stocked up on provisions and can just enjoy the day!

893 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:47:03am

re: #868 rightymouse

NE Ohio. And it stinks outside right now. Schools closed and I can't even get out of the driveway. Well, it's a loooong driveway and we live in the boonies.


It's so bad here they closed THE MALL!

894 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:47:10am

re: #748 MandyManners

Crafty bastard.

Yup

895 SurferDoc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:47:51am

re: #860 Kenneth

The wife is all hot for Daniel Craig as Bond. We watched Casino Royal last night on TV. Frankly, I'm a little nervous about that look in her eye she gets during the naked Bond on the cane chair scene. Hmmm...

I got a real laugh out of Quantum of Solace, in that the villain was a faux-environmentalist getting rich off of do-gooders and liberal governments. Kinda like Al Gore!

No wonder the critics all hated it.

896 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:47:54am

re: #866 realwest

Exactly. When I heard him on JIHAD TV saying "my job to the Muslim world is..." I thought the same thing. You have ONE JOB and ONE responsibility-to the American people.

897 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:47:57am

re: #883 MandyManners

I have a solution: send low-level misdemeanants and traffic scofflaws out with bottles of Windex.

I like it. Save money on the labor and only spend for a couple of cases of generic glass cleaner (why spend more for the name-brand stuff?), and towels. They might save over $75,000 doing so.

898 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:48:27am

re: #892 realwest

Hey! Hi there {goddess} you have too much snow in the Pittsburgh area ALREADY to be able to have school? WOW. Hope you're stocked up on provisions and can just enjoy the day!

See ,y 882!

They closed the local college--that hasn't happened in a decade!

899 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:48:30am

re: #852 phoenixgirl

link to a pussy?/

*snicker*

900 Miss Trixie  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:48:31am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

We're being blasted with a monster storm that will probably leave a foot or two of snow in its wake when it passes. Wah. January in teh Great White North and I'm such a Canucksicle.

{realwest} Morning, sweetstuff *smoooochie-smooch* Good to see you today - anything new going on?

{rightymouse} Toots!

re: #820 rightymouse

It's already started here. We're being hammered. Can't even get out of our driveway. Am sitting here waiting for the plow to show up.

Just click my avatar and you can have instant, heavenly help. Don't forget to click thump the heels of your sneaux-boots together when you do.

Really.

:D

901 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:48:41am

re: #893 newsjunkie_ky

It's so bad here they closed THE MALL!

Good grief!

902 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:48:47am

re: #872 Walter L. Newton

Yes, CLEAN signs, I got his clean sign, right here!


It is so funny, the mayor comes on this radio show every Monday morning and every Monday morning the radio guy, Leland Conway, tears him a new one.
Leland is organizing a volunteer cleaning party to 'clean the signs'. lol

903 phoenixgirl  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:49:17am

re: #853 ArmyWife

You are spot on. His naivete is glaring here. He doesn't understand his "reaching out" to despots is viewed as a positive by both the despots and the MSM - only their reasons for it being positive are different. Along the same vein, he believes he is changing the world, I believe he is too.

i don't think his naive, i think he is dangerous. if he were merely naive, he would have changed his views the moment he was getting his national security briefings.

904 UFO TOFU  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:49:19am

re: #883 MandyManners

According to an article in the WSJ yesterday, a number of communities with prisons are doing just that.

905 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:49:23am

re: #900 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

We're being blasted with a monster storm that will probably leave a foot or two of snow in its wake when it passes. Wah. January in teh Great White North and I'm such a Canucksicle.

{realwest} Morning, sweetstuff *smoooochie-smooch* Good to see you today - anything new going on?

{rightymouse} Toots!

Just click my avatar and you can have instant, heavenly help. Don't forget to click thump the heels of your sneaux-boots together when you do.

Really.

:D

In what state do you live (geographically, not mentally...)?

906 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:49:24am

re: #852 phoenixgirl

You are SO BAD.

907 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:49:38am

re: #898 goddessoftheclassroom

See ,y 882!

They closed the local college--that hasn't happened in a decade!


You're only a couple of hours drive from where we live in Ohio. If it's anything like what we've got going here, YIKES!

908 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:49:40am

re: #873 redstateredneck

Brilliant. I know he isn't popular with some here, but I just love him for who he is!

909 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:49:50am

re: #882 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm not going anywhere today...

Where is there?

Sunday night, local weather (Denver metro) was saying a light dusting of snow over night. Monday morning, I woke to a half a foot. That was in Golden, up against the mountains. But even in Denver (15 miles east of here), they had a few inches. And 5 miles north of Golden, in Arvada, they had only a dusting.

And these guys are predicting all kinds of climate change, bullshit.

910 beblebrox  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:49:55am

re: #882 goddessoftheclassroom

Yeah, i'm under that same warning. It's not bad down here by the river, but driving home concerns me. My home in the adjoining county is 300 yards from the highest point in the county, and is almost 700 feet above here. It may have never even changed over there. one thing is certain, the ride home will get progressively worse.

911 tfc3rid  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:49:55am

re: #866 realwest

He cares more about our view in the eyes of the rest of the World than anything...

He is all about perception...

912 phoenixgirl  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:50:19am

re: #885 Kenneth

That cannot be repeated enough:

could someone PLEASE tell Obama that he is the President of the United States, not President of the World -

1000 updings.

and when did the "strut" begin? he should walk like a president

913 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:50:34am

re: #882 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm not going anywhere today...

Stay in and stay warm. That ice can do you great harm.

914 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:50:42am

re: #908 ArmyWife

Brilliant. I know he isn't popular with some here, but I just love him for who he is!

I sent a message in. I think that is Rush's listeners send in the comments, they'll overload the servers. Wouldn't that be nice.

915 SurferDoc  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:50:43am

It has been one week and the 0 has made the world a more dangerous place and us weaker in it. Change!

916 subsailor68  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:50:50am

re: #874 sattv4u2

Thanks so much for the tips! I'll keep 'em in mind when the installer gets here. I live in the Texas Hill Country, so snow isn't going to be a problem. Unfortunately, given recent weather patterns, neither is rain.

One question: years ago I was director of broadcast ops for a satellite delivered television service (medical). We were using 3 meter dishes at the time, and had to deal with terrestrial interference twice a year. (You know, when the sun passed directly behind the dish?) They tell me that's not really an issue anymore with the new technology. (Don't quite believe that.)

Is TI still an issue?

917 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:51:08am

re: #907 rightymouse

You're only a couple of hours drive from where we live in Ohio. If it's anything like what we've got going here, YIKES!

Thanks for the warning!

Hey would you be interested in a Pittsburgh Liazrd meet-up when the weather's nicer? I don't know how far a drive it is for you--I'm about and hour and a half to the east of Pittsburgh...

918 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:51:14am

re: #883 MandyManners

I have a solution: send low-level misdemeanants and traffic scofflaws out with bottles of Windex.

He suggested that, but is now organizing a cleaning party.

919 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:51:25am

re: #807 MandyManners

This from the crowd that attempted to legislate π = 3.

920 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:51:31am

re: #857 vapig

I heard about the story here at LGF. This is the only link I've found (I might have saved the story here, but I don't have it organized and it could take hours to find the story.

However, in looking for this story I was shocked (SHOCKED, I say!) at how many activist groups are out there in multiple states that are attacking homeschoolers.

Here are a few of them here, here and here.

It's becoming apparant that like Germany, libs want to ban homeschooling.

Here was the first link I found.

[Link: conservablogs.com...]

921 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:51:34am

re: #893 newsjunkie_ky

It's so bad here they closed THE MALL!

Won't someone please think of the children?!?

922 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:52:03am

re: #867 MandyManners

Sorry I bailed out last night. I was remembering some stuff that just set my teeth on edge. I forgot to say one thing:

CONGRATULATIONS, G-MA!

Not a problem.
And THANK YOU!
My 10 year old is thrilled to be an aunt!

923 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:52:05am

re: #909 Walter L. Newton

Where is there?

Sunday night, local weather (Denver metro) was saying a light dusting of snow over night. Monday morning, I woke to a half a foot. That was in Golden, up against the mountains. But even in Denver (15 miles east of here), they had a few inches. And 5 miles north of Golden, in Arvada, they had only a dusting.

And these guys are predicting all kinds of climate change, bullshit.

Western PA (Pittsburgh area)

924 Lincolntf  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:52:18am

re: #875 jwb7605

The "flip-flop" on abortion came in response to a flap about underage children in public schools being given access to abortions (but not aspirin) without parental consent. It quickly spiraled (at the behest of the moonbats and media) into a whole bunch of "Women's healthcare rights" issues that they beat him over the head with.
Romney's position on abortion (as much as I've been able to determine) is much like mine: Every abortion (barring medical necessity, etc.) is a failure of society on some level to take care of their most vulnerable members. It should be discouraged, not encouraged, by Government programs.

925 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:52:22am

re: #903 phoenixgirl

He is naive, with a huge ego that won't allow him to change his mind, mixed with less than impressive mental power. All together it does equal dangerous.

926 phoenixgirl  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:52:24am

re: #906 WriterMom

You are SO BAD.

: )

927 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:52:29am

re: #895 SurferDoc

No wonder the critics all hated it.

I still haven't seen it. I heard such a variety of reviews I couldn't bear to see it for full price. At some point I'll rent it.

hey, goddessoftheclassroom:

Keep a few prayers out today: Reine.de.tout is having surgery on a hand today, and midwestgak had two relatives pass away this week. They both could use prayers today.

928 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:52:45am

Rumor has it Ahmadinejad has Jewish roots.


Short Shits in a whole lotta trouble...:)

929 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:52:53am

re: #900 Miss Trixie


Just click my avatar and you can have instant, heavenly help. Don't forget to click thump the heels of your sneaux-boots together when you do.

Really.

:D

HAHAHAHA! Send that lad my way.

930 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:53:00am

re: #913 newsjunkie_ky

Stay in and stay warm. That ice can do you great harm.

Thanks--I know. The current weather conditions say "ice pellets"...

931 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:53:06am

re: #896 WriterMom

Exactly. When I heard him on JIHAD TV saying "my job to the Muslim world is..." I thought the same thing. You have ONE JOB and ONE responsibility-to the American people.


I'm tellin ya, the guy is simpatico to the RoP from his yoot.

932 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:53:12am

re: #890 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
Hulp us Al Gore..We got 10" of global warming last night.

Hoops,
It's bad here, too. algore is to blame.

933 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:53:13am

re: #888 ArmyWife

How about we take prisoners and waive the abuse of chain gang shackling, hand them a bottle of Windex, a roll of paper towels, a few ladders and tell them to hop to it.


re: #902 newsjunkie_ky

It is so funny, the mayor comes on this radio show every Monday morning and every Monday morning the radio guy, Leland Conway, tears him a new one.
Leland is organizing a volunteer cleaning party to 'clean the signs'. lol

Oh, I thought since you it was in caps, that it was an acronym for something.

You mean 76 thousand for actually cleaning road signs. I'll tell you what, I'll get that done for 50 thousand, in one week.

934 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:53:18am

re: #848 tfc3rid

The Dems are starting this to begin implementation of the Fairness Dcotrine...

That's been my thinking.

935 subsailor68  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:53:29am

re: #879 aggieann

My in-laws from Kerrville in the Texas Hill Country tell of the time they were in line at the DMV and an elderly woman demanded that the clerk let her take the test on behalf of her husband, since he was legally blind.

LOL! That's where I live as well, and I can tell ya from just driving around town that your in-laws weren't kidding. In fact, I think I've seen that legally blind guy.

Or maybe not - there's a bunch of 'em on the road.

:-)

936 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:53:49am

re: #927 vxbush

I still haven't seen it. I heard such a variety of reviews I couldn't bear to see it for full price. At some point I'll rent it.

hey, goddessoftheclassroom:

Keep a few prayers out today: Reine.de.tout is having surgery on a hand today, and midwestgak had two relatives pass away this week. They both could use prayers today.

Did the indicate that it would be ok for me to add them to the Lizard Prayer List?

937 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:54:10am

re: #923 goddessoftheclassroom

Hi Goddess, could you keep my Mom on the prayer list? She's been out of the hospital for almost a month, but lately I've been seeing her regressing in her mental health.

938 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:54:13am

re: #864 Walter L. Newton

I can't find your reply above, but, yes, all of these governors are going to work hand in hand with the feds. No one is going to want to miss out of this money.

It's a setup.

There goes Federalism.

939 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:54:16am

re: #928 Dustyvet

Rumor has it Ahmadinejad has Jewish roots.

Short Shits in a whole lotta trouble...:)

Now he has to wipe himself off the map.

940 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:54:23am

If the dems implement the fiarness doctrine, does that mean that Rush is going to get time on MSNBC and other conservatives are going to get time on all the major news outlets?

941 beblebrox  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:54:33am

re: #917 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks for the warning!

Hey would you be interested in a Pittsburgh Liazrd meet-up when the weather's nicer? I don't know how far a drive it is for you--I'm about and hour and a half to the east of Pittsburgh...

I'm about 40 minutes Northwest of the 'burg.

942 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:55:05am

re: #877 Ben Hur

Google it.

I will not admit to going to gossip sites.

TMZ junkie? Closet fan of Perez Hilton?

943 jwb7605  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:55:13am

re: #940 Jetpilot1101

If the dems implement the fiarness doctrine, does that mean that Rush is going to get time on MSNBC and other conservatives are going to get time on all the major news outlets?

Of course not. I updinged you anyway.

944 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:55:15am

Note to Donks -

Freedom & Fairness are not compatible, much less synonyms.

945 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:55:16am

re: #939 Alouette

Now he has to wipe himself off the map.

Yeah...:)

946 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:55:20am

re: #884 Bubblehead II
YUP! That's the one! Make her go get another loose leaf binder (and btw, you can probably burn pages 3-12 in the first binder and she won't notice it!).
:)

947 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:55:37am

re: #928 Dustyvet

Rumor has it Ahmadinejad has Jewish roots.

Short Shits in a whole lotta trouble...:)

Uh-oh. Any one who's roots are showing in Iran is due for a die job.

948 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:55:53am

re: #921 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Won't someone please think of the children?!?


And yet, algore is going to go on with his testimony of gorebull warming in DC.

949 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:56:03am

re: #878 Kenneth

Sure, you can bring the Kid and look after our boy while wife & I frolick in the waves.

I was hoping to stash The Kid with my folks but, I can bring him.

950 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:56:07am

re: #937 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hi Goddess, could you keep my Mom on the prayer list? She's been out of the hospital for almost a month, but lately I've been seeing her regressing in her mental health.

Off course--I'll update the wording. Take are of YOURSELF, too--I know looking after a parent has its own stresses.

951 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:56:23am

re: #940 Jetpilot1101

No! That wouldn't be fair! What is wrong with you?
/

952 phoenixgirl  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:56:27am

re: #947 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

brilliant

953 rightymouse  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:56:36am

re: #917 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks for the warning!

Hey would you be interested in a Pittsburgh Liazrd meet-up when the weather's nicer? I don't know how far a drive it is for you--I'm about and hour and a half to the east of Pittsburgh...


Western end of Pittsburgh is about 2 hours from here on a dead run. Would love to meet up with lizards there.

954 formercorpsman  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:56:53am

re: #910 beblebrox

Yeah, i'm under that same warning. It's not bad down here by the river, but driving home concerns me. My home in the adjoining county is 300 yards from the highest point in the county, and is almost 700 feet above here. It may have never even changed over there. one thing is certain, the ride home will get progressively worse.

Thank you. Purely for my own dumb-ass enjoyment, you brightened my morning allowing me to reminisce about Farley.

955 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:56:58am

re: #885 Kenneth
Thankew my friend! Mom and I gotta go get our supplies for the gorebull warming that's supposedly coming our way - feels funny doing that when the temp NOW is 59 degrees! LOL!

956 subsailor68  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:57:04am

re: #940 Jetpilot1101

If the dems implement the fiarness doctrine, does that mean that Rush is going to get time on MSNBC and other conservatives are going to get time on all the major news outlets?

Thanks for calling the Unfairness Doctrine hotline. Good question.

The answer is: of course not. It's clear you don't understand the basic concept. The Unfairness Doctrine was born of the need to ensure that no-talent liberal b.s. artists who otherwise didn't have a chance in hell of getting on the air will be able to spew their crap.

Again, thanks for your question!

957 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:57:11am

re: #889 ArmyWife

You are so very bright. I am in awe of your brilliance!

Just call me "Sparkle".

958 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:57:12am

re: #920 MandyManners

Here was the first link I found.

[Link: conservablogs.com...]

Dang! That was it! I need to brush up on my descriptors when using google.

959 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:57:22am

re: #936 goddessoftheclassroom

Did the indicate that it would be ok for me to add them to the Lizard Prayer List?

No; they shared them with me, and I'm being pushy and asking for prayer on their behalf, as I don't think either will be on today.

960 ArmyWife  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:57:33am

Need to go change laundry.bbl

961 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:57:36am

re: #944 unreconstructed rebel

Note to Donks -

Someone needs to explain the difference between fairness and justice to them.

962 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:57:53am

re: #886 goddessoftheclassroom Good pick up teach! uh, I mean {goddess}! LOL!

963 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:58:05am

re: #893 newsjunkie_ky

It's so bad here they closed THE MALL!

Reminds me of a time a hurricane was in the gulf heading for shore and a woman I know went to her local WalMart and was told by the clerk that it was a good thing she came when she did because they were closing at noon. "I didn't know it was that bad! ! !", she said.
:D

964 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:58:07am

re: #933 Walter L. Newton

Oh, I thought since you it was in caps, that it was an acronym for something.

You mean 76 thousand for actually cleaning road signs. I'll tell you what, I'll get that done for 50 thousand, in one week.

Yes, $76,000 to clean the signs. There were a lot of other really stupid things like to build a DRIVE THRU welfare center.

965 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:58:21am

re: #897 Honorary Yooper

I like it. Save money on the labor and only spend for a couple of cases of generic glass cleaner (why spend more for the name-brand stuff?), and towels. They might save over $75,000 doing so.

There'd be problems with signs that require ladders. Insurance costs and the like.

966 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:58:34am

re: #955 realwest

Thankew my friend! Mom and I gotta go get our supplies for the gorebull warming that's supposedly coming our way - feels funny doing that when the temp NOW is 59 degrees! LOL!

Don't forget the C-Rats...:)

967 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:58:43am
968 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:59:12am

re: #918 newsjunkie_ky

He suggested that, but is now organizing a cleaning party.

We need one of those in Congress.

969 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:59:25am

re: #940 Jetpilot1101

If the dems implement the fiarness doctrine, does that mean that Rush is going to get time on MSNBC and other conservatives are going to get time on all the major news outlets?

I don't believe that the Fairness Doctrine applied to news programs..... If it is reimplemented, everything liberal will be "news" and everything conservative will be "opinion" ....

970 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:59:37am

re: #891 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty! He who has the gold makes the rules until someone decides they don't want or need the gold, or that the price for the gold is WAAAAY too high!

971 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:59:40am

re: #959 vxbush

No; they shared them with me, and I'm being pushy and asking for prayer on their behalf, as I don't think either will be on today.

Not "pushy" but caring!

I'm adding them in a a vague way and praying for them myself today.

972 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 7:59:52am

re: #948 newsjunkie_ky

And yet, algore is going to go on with his testimony of gorebull warming in DC.

Yes and as usual he brought his "global warming" with him. I now have to go out and do my errands in 6 inches of the stuff. Rained overnight too, so we have a nice gloss on everything.

BBIAB!

973 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:00:06am

re: #919 unreconstructed rebel

This from the crowd that attempted to legislate π = 3.

Huh? Link?

974 ThinkRight  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:00:24am

Limbaug / Palin 2012

975 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:00:24am

re: #912 phoenixgirl

and when did the "strut" begin? he should walk like a president

and Michelle needs to learn how to put a polite smile on her face. She looks like a hatah a lot of the time.

976 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:00:25am

re: #970 realwest

Hey Dusty! He who has the gold makes the rules until someone decides they don't want or need the gold, or that the price for the gold is WAAAAY too high!

Agreed...:)

977 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:00:34am

re: #967 buzzsawmonkey

...He can be wrong on an issue, or overbearing, or a little too full of self-regard, but so can we all...

Not me... never!

978 phoenixgirl  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:01:13am

re: #977 Walter L. Newton

wiping tea off screen

979 Miss Trixie  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:01:30am

re: #905 goddessoftheclassroom

In what state do you live (geographically, not mentally...)?

Morning, Goddess.

Ottawa, Canada, where I'm freezing my floaties off.

980 [deleted]  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:01:53am
981 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:01:56am

re: #928 Dustyvet

Rumor has it Ahmadinejad has Jewish roots.

Short Shits in a whole lotta trouble...:)

It's a Zionist plot! /////////

982 CIA Reject  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:02:23am

re: #967 buzzsawmonkey

Excellent points. Upding!

983 kcladderman  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:02:24am

re: #803 Ben Hur

Pardon my language, but,

Matt Damon.

P*ssy.

Oh he has been in bad mood since Ben married Jennifer.

984 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:02:30am

re: #937 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Hi Goddess, could you keep my Mom on the prayer list? She's been out of the hospital for almost a month, but lately I've been seeing her regressing in her mental health.

The mental health regression is the hardest. My mom didn't know who I was any more for about the last 2 years of her life.

985 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:02:30am

re: #963 redstateredneck

Reminds me of a time a hurricane was in the gulf heading for shore and a woman I know went to her local WalMart and was told by the clerk that it was a good thing she came when she did because they were closing at noon. "I didn't know it was that bad! ! !", she said.
:D

LOL! Whenever we get a weather forecast of snow, the supermarkets are packed and you can't find milk or bread anywhere. People panic. I stocked up on junk food. When the weather is bad I have this craving for potato chips (which I never eat any other time).

986 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:02:40am

re: #958 vapig

Dang! That was it! I need to brush up on my descriptors when using google.

I used "Tennessee home schooled students not hired by state".

987 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:02:59am

re: #979 Miss Trixie

Morning, Goddess.

Ottawa, Canada, where I'm freezing my floaties off.

Oh! For some reason I thought you were in the south. Stay cozy!

988 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:02:59am

re: #900 {Miss Trixie} Hi there gorgeous and *smoooches* back to you! Nothing new to report but mom and I gotta go get supplies for the blizzard headed our way - feels funny doing that when I'm wearing shorts but still..........(it's going up to about 68 today and it's already 60 degrees!)!
Hope y'all are doing up there in our 51st State (or, if you are an Obama fan, our 58th state!)! LOL!

989 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:03:02am

re: #978 phoenixgirl

wiping tea off screen

:)

990 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:03:05am

re: #983 kcladderman

Oh he has been in bad mood since Ben married Jennifer.

He's jealous. Of whom, I'm not sure.

991 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:03:15am

OT: I found Obama's Egg Of Power.

992 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:03:24am

re: #973 MandyManners

Huh? Link?

It's an antique tale from before the days of the Internet. I use it to point up the stupidity of legislatures when they go off the reservation. They should stick to property, commerce, public safety & leave us alone.

993 vxbush  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:03:52am

re: #984 redstateredneck

The mental health regression is the hardest. My mom didn't know who I was any more for about the last 2 years of her life.

I think that's what I fear the most about getting older. My dad didn't exhibit it, but my grandmother did.

994 phoenixgirl  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:04:01am

re: #989 Walter L. Newton

{walter}

995 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:04:11am

re: #990 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He's jealous. Of whom, I'm not sure.

Of Ben, he really wanted to marry Ben.

996 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:05:06am

re: #903 phoenixgirl
Yup, but as Sharmuta pointed out yesterday, he suffers from severe narcissism and the security briefings were, well, beneath him. He's gonna talk the world into peace doncha know?

997 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:05:12am

re: #972 vapig

Yes and as usual he brought his "global warming" with him. I now have to go out and do my errands in 6 inches of the stuff. Rained overnight too, so we have a nice gloss on everything.

BBIAB!


Bad weather just seems to follow algore wherever he goes.

998 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:05:34am

Somalia Islamists cut off thief's hand

The Islamic group, al-Shabab, is imposing a strict form of Islam with punishments including lashings and stonings that have drawn fear and trepidation in this Muslim country. In one case, the group stoned a 13-year-old girl to death for adultery even though her parents said she was a rape victim.

The Islamic group, al-Shabab, is imposing a strict form of Islam with punishments including lashings and stonings that have drawn fear and trepidation in this Muslim country. In one case, the group stoned a 13-year-old girl to death for adultery even though her parents said she was a rape victim.

"He screamed once after his hand was cut off," said witness Ibrahim Yare. "Then nurses whisked him away."


Lovely

999 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:05:51am

re: #995 Walter L. Newton

Of Ben, he really wanted to marry Ben.


Right, they're both Red Sox fans, so much in common.

1000 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:06:01am

re: #984 redstateredneck

The mental health regression is the hardest. My mom didn't know who I was any more for about the last 2 years of her life.

{redstateredneck}
Her heart did even if her mind didn't.

1001 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:06:30am

re: #993 vxbush

I think that's what I fear the most about getting older. My dad didn't exhibit it, but my grandmother did.


My older daughter is really concerned...she's got it on both sides of the family.

1002 jcm  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:07:01am

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

Morning Lizards.

1003 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:07:07am

re: #911 tfc3rid
Hey there my friend! It's about perception and misdirection with Obama.
The guy really is TOTALLY clueless!
Gack and he's POTUS!

1004 lawhawk  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:07:14am

re: #998 SasquatchOnSteroids

But be comforted by the fact that the US apologizes for its actions in the Muslim world. We have no right to impose our notions of freedom, justice, and common decency on those who would rather engage in misogyny, stonings, beheadings, and jihad. It's just so much cultural insensitivity for the US to do such things. /President Obama

1005 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:07:16am

re: #940 Jetpilot1101

No It would unfair to the hosts of those programs to actually have to think about what they are saying.

1006 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:07:18am

Iran's president has responded to an overture by the new US president by demanding an apology for past US "crimes" committed against Iran.

The US "stood against the Iranian people in the past 60 years," Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said during an address in the western region of Khermenshah.

"Those who speak of change must apologise to the Iranian people and try to repair their past crimes," he said.

President Obama has offered to extend a hand if Iran "unclenched its fist".

President Barack Obama discussed the possibility of a softening of US policy towards Iran in an interview recorded with a Saudi-owned Arabic TV network on Monday.


"Those who speak of change must apologise to the Iranian people and try to repair their past crimes," he said.

Unzipping pants...got your apology right here short shit...

-s-

1007 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:07:23am

re: #992 unreconstructed rebel

It's an antique tale from before the days of the Internet. I use it to point up the stupidity of legislatures when they go off the reservation. They should stick to property, commerce, public safety & leave us alone.

Ah, from the days when the Democrats ruled that state based on the votes in West and Middle Tennessee. Those areas had scads of slave-owners, and East Tennessee had far fewer and has usually voted Republican. East Tennessee also had a far lower population of African-Americans.

1008 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:07:59am

re: #912 phoenixgirl

I recall some media types writing about the way Bush walks revealed he was an under-evolved low-IQ sexist warmonger.

Obama's body language has creeped me out from the first time I saw him.

Inauguration Body Language

The most remarkable aspect of the Obama's body language at the presidential inauguration was the lack of reaction to the enormous crowds on the mall. I know he was trying to be presidential I watched him take on the mantel of seriousness and change his facial expression to a down turned mouth as he came out for his swearing in, but why not react at all? Why make the entire speech so practiced and rehearsed that he couldn't even have one spontaneous smile or wide open eyes and raised eyebrows in awe at all the people who have put their trust in him? Why not reach out his hands or look directly out at them one time as he spoke?

More on the body language at the Obama presidential inaguration

1009 JacksonTn  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:08:05am

Good Morning Lizards ...

I was watching news for a few minutes this morning ...The One was talking about D.C. schools being closed and that they never close the schools in Chicago for snow ...anyway ...he is definitely going to get in deep sh*t some day with his mouth ...because it is clear that he talks just to hear himself ...he cannot help it ...he loves his own voice ...

Is spring here yet? ....hate this snow!

1010 tfc3rid  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:08:52am

re: #934 MandyManners

That's been my thinking.

And it is even better if they can get Republicans to criticize talk radio...

1011 VioletTiger  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:08:56am

re: #967 buzzsawmonkey
All we need are some true conservatives to step up to the plate. Where are they?
If they fold in the senate on the stimulus package, disappointed won't even describe my reaction.

1012 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:09:08am

re: #921 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Won't be so hot for the parents of those kids, either!

1013 realwest  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:09:46am

Whoops y'all I gotta go NOW to get our chores started!
Have a great day and I hope to see you all down the road!

1014 kcladderman  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:10:01am

re: #940 Jetpilot1101

If the dems implement the fiarness doctrine, does that mean that Rush is going to get time on MSNBC and other conservatives are going to get time on all the major news outlets?

Yea 2:30 am eastern.

Back when he had his syndicated tv show our local station put him on at 12:30 am

1015 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:10:03am

re: #1000 goddessoftheclassroom

{redstateredneck}
Her heart did even if her mind didn't.

Thank you, I know that. My older brother would go visit and ask her if she knew who he was. I asked him why the hell he did that. One of the nurses at the nursing home she was in made her a scrapbook with photos that we gave them. She could name everyone in the pictures - us kids, when we were little. She just couldn't make the connection between those little kids and the middle aged people who were visiting her claiming to be her children!

1016 kcladderman  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:10:48am

re: #990 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He's jealous. Of whom, I'm not sure.

Its not easy to lose the man of your dreams.

1017 vapig  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:10:58am

Just had to come back and report that Obama has called Washingtonians "weather wimps!"

Hey newsflash to the 0! Our snowdays are our compensation for living through the misery of August. Ever notice how congress beats feet in August?

TTFN

1018 WriterMom  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:11:03am

re: #1008 Kenneth

The only message he is sending is: I WON. He believes he deserved to win and he did. So, there would be no emotion.

1019 opnion  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:11:08am

re: #1004 lawhawk

But be comforted by the fact that the US apologizes for its actions in the Muslim world. We have no right to impose our notions of freedom, justice, and common decency on those who would rather engage in misogyny, stonings, beheadings, and jihad. It's just so much cultural insensitivity for the US to do such things. /President Obama


See how nuanced he is? Further we have no right not to let Islamists immigrate here with impunity. These notions of sovereignty are so last century.

1020 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:11:50am

re: #1000 goddessoftheclassroom
Oh, and for the K-spot post, let me award you this little trinket.

1021 tfc3rid  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:11:54am

re: #1003 realwest

Thanks to the dumb people and America haters...

1022 tfc3rid  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:13:02am

re: #1011 VioletTiger

All we need are some true conservatives to step up to the plate. Where are they?
If they fold in the senate on the stimulus package, disappointed won't even describe my reaction.

They will... There will be no filibuster...

1023 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:13:04am
1024 Kenneth  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:14:17am

re: #1018 WriterMom

He was feeling an emotion: narcissistic exaltation.

1025 redstateredneck  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:14:37am

re: #1023 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Cool, great lede...this'll work just dandy: Only 12 Cents of Every Dollar Is For Something That Could Plausibly Be Called a Growth Stimulus


Why can't the dems just have the balls to call it what it is...a democratic appropriations bill? Enough of this bullshit stimulus.

1026 Dustyvet  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:16:34am

re: #1025 redstateredneck

Why can't the dems just have the balls to call it what it is...a democratic appropriations bill? Enough of this bullshit stimulus.

What, and tell the truth? With the DNC ain't going to happen...Unless hell just froze over...

1027 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:17:29am

re: #973 MandyManners

re: #992 unreconstructed rebel

It seems that Alabama has also tried to get in on the act.

1028 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:20:14am

Of course Harry Potter is a Zionist!
His creator J.K.Rowling however is not Jewish, she is Christian.
Harry celebrates Christmas, does not observe any Jewish holidays or rituals and has no Jewish friends or acquaintances.
Israel and Judaism are not featured in the books or movies.
Witchcraft is as un-Jewish as it gets.
Rowling has confirmed that the Harry Potter books are rooted in her Christianity, complete with biblical quotes and resurrection themes.

BTW, Harry likes to go to synagogue with his Jewish buddy Ahmadinejad.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

1029 Natasha  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:26:25am

re: #806 WriterMom

Where's that quote from? MATTTTTTTTT DAAAAAAAAAAAAMON.

He is a wanker. I would happily do Daniel Craig. And hello-Roger Moore? Totally hot.

Daniel Craig is awesome. Very unexpected as James Bond but totally hot! I also saw his latest, "Defiance". Really good movie. He was a... Zionist badass! What can be better? CNN did a crappy review on it, since it came out while Israel was kicking Ham-ASS, and the Jews in the movie were portrayed in a heroic light.

1030 formercorpsman  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:27:46am

re: #1006 Dustyvet

You would think our new Secretary of State would realize this was done on behalf of the united States already.


[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

1031 Natasha  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:30:16am

Well, it's another snow day for me. I feel like I am back in elementary school. More online classes... But we all know where I will be spending most of my time... I certainly missed this place! I luv Gorebull Warming!

1032 Natasha  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 8:32:26am

re: #1025 redstateredneck

Why can't the dems just have the balls to call it what it is...a democratic appropriations theft bill? Enough of this bullshit stimulus.

Fixed it fer ya! ;)

1033 A.W.  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 9:02:49am

re: #108 Fenway_Nation

Ugh....I didn't even consider the Chamberlain comparison vis-a-vis 0bama. I've always compared his 0ne-ness to Carter in terms of policy.

Maybe the problem is you can't have a churchill without having a chamberlain first. and what we did for the last 8 years was have a president more churchill than chamberlain. (Not that bush is exactly like Churchill, but hopefully you get my point.)

1034 BigDog  Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:57:15am

Zombies Ahead says Austin road sign!


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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
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