Overnight Hope-a-Dope
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Creationists make it sound as though a “theory” is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night.
— Isaac Asimov
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Confuzed Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:20:33pm |
100 questions Obama will never ask to Islamic leaders.
Part 1 of a 10-part series.
1. Should the Muslim CIA Station Chief accused of rape, be judged by Islamic law (Koran 24:13 - requires 4 male Muslims in good-standing to have witnessed the attack) or Infidel law?
2. Can Muslims be friends with Infidels (in violation of Koran 5:51 - "don't take Jews and Christians as friends, ...")?
3. Are Muslims really allowed to have Sex Slaves (Koran 4:23-24)?
4. Are non-Muslim presidents, prime ministers, dignitaries, VIPs, etc., really forbidden from entering Mecca and Medina because they are the "wrong religion?"
5. Are Muslims really guaranteed virgins in heaven just by killing Infidels (Koran 9:111)?
6. Why are female Muslims only allowed to marry Muslims men, but Muslim men can marry anyone (Koran 4:3)?
7. Why are Muslims allowed to lie to Infidels (taqiyya)?
8. Why do the Koran and Hadith refer to Jews and Christians as monkeys and pigs?
9. Why does the Koran (98:6) say Infidels are the vilest of creatures and deserve no mercy?
10. Why is Islam the only major "religion" that allows for theft of others property (Koran 8:41, Chapter 8 being called "Booty" or "Spoils of War")?
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gmsc Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:22:57pm |
"If we are going to teach creation science as an alternative to evolution, then we should also teach the stork theory as an alternative to biological reproduction."
-Judith Hayes
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abaleh Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:24:05pm |
If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can solve them.
Isaac Asimov
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BlueCanuck Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:24:07pm |
Only if it evolves into one.
/recycling old jokes. . . .
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BlueCanuck Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:25:26pm |
re: #4 logboy
I thought you quartered yours already and stored him in the freezer? ;)
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:26:46pm |
re: #4 logboy
I'm still waiting for my unicorn.
still no money in my bank account either......
but at least i can walk outside right now in shorts, tshirt and bare feet to get a beer from the BBQ frig.
/white smoke
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BlueCanuck Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:27:42pm |
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logboy Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:27:49pm |
898 posts with 694 Karma. Thats a 77% approval rating. Hey! I have a higher approval rating than Obama!
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:28:22pm |
speaking of BBQ, do we need to fire up the grill because of the registration period, or did they sort themselves out on the latest ID thread?
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logboy Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:29:23pm |
re: #8 BlueCanuck
I thought you quartered yours already and stored him in the freezer? ;)
Nah, I stole that one from my welfare neighbor. You know Obama is going to give his lazy ass two unicorns anyway.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:30:08pm |
re: #12 logboy
898 posts with 694 Karma. Thats a 77% approval rating. Hey! I have a higher approval rating than Obama!
good for you...... i'm running in the 'hood of 25%.
/better than COngress! %-)
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gmsc Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:31:18pm |
Obama Tells Arabia's Despots They're Safe
America's diplomacy of freedom is officially over.
"To the Muslim world, we seek a new way forward, based on mutual interest and mutual respect," President Barack Obama said in his inaugural. But in truth, the new way forward is a return to realpolitik and business as usual in America's encounter with that Greater Middle East. As the president told Al-Arabiya television Monday, he wants a return to "the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago."
Say what you will about the style -- and practice -- of the Bush years, the autocracies were on notice for the first five or six years of George. W. Bush's presidency. America had toppled Taliban rule and the tyranny of Saddam Hussein; it had frightened the Libyan ruler that a similar fate lay in store for him. It was not sweet persuasion that drove Syria out of Lebanon in 2005. That dominion of plunder and terror was given up under duress.
True, Mr. Bush's diplomacy of freedom fizzled out in the last two years of his presidency, and the autocracies in the Greater Middle East came to a conviction that the storm had passed them by and that they had been spared. But we are still too close to this history to see how the demonstration effect works its way through Arab political culture.
The argument that liberty springs from within and can't be given to distant peoples is more flawed than meets the eye. In the sweep of modern history, the fortunes of liberty have been dependent on the will of the dominant power -- or powers -- in the order of states. The late Samuel P. Huntington made this point with telling detail. In 15 of the 29 democratic countries in 1970, democratic regimes were midwifed by foreign rule or had come into being right after independence from foreign occupation.
In the ebb and flow of liberty, power always mattered, and liberty needed the protection of great powers. The appeal of the pamphlets of Mill and Locke and Paine relied on the guns of Pax Britannica, and on the might of America when British power gave way. In this vein, the assertive diplomacy of George W. Bush had given heart to Muslims long in the grip of tyrannies.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:31:25pm |
re: #11 BlueCanuck
Thanks, the fire mission is on the way.
/white smoke is a great target
yup! that's why i put the pot out where your FO could see it.....
/counterbattery enroute also %-)
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quickredfox Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:31:41pm |
Adventures from The Commute Route of Quickredfox:
There I was minding my own business, going to work this a.m. on the BART train into S.F., and my idle glance falls upon the glaring advertising on the walls of the Powell Street station. Big posters with the new obamish Pepsi logo, each poster displaying one or two giant-sized words with the new logo in the place where an O would go. SODA POP on one. POP by itself on another. SOUL (eh?) on another. WOW. And then, yes, there it was -- HOPE. Tomorrow I'm going to make sure I'm absorbed in a book by the time I get to Powell.
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rawmuse Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:36:06pm |
re: #18 quickredfox
I saw those same posters last night. I never liked Pepsi.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:37:00pm |
re: #18 quickredfox
Adventures from The Commute Route of Quickredfox:
There I was minding my own business, going to work this a.m. on the BART train into S.F., and my idle glance falls upon the glaring advertising on the walls of the Powell Street station. Big posters with the new obamish Pepsi logo, each poster displaying one or two giant-sized words with the new logo in the place where an O would go. SODA POP on one. POP by itself on another. SOUL (eh?) on another. WOW. And then, yes, there it was -- HOPE. Tomorrow I'm going to make sure I'm absorbed in a book by the time I get to Powell.
just think! once Juggy & Congress manage to completely destroy the economy, you won't have to commute anymore.......
/change to hope for?
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Killian Bundy Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:37:26pm |
U.S. Deserter 'Having Time of My Life' as He Seeks Asylum in Germany
Germany has been very good to Spec. André L. Shepherd since he deserted the U.S. Army.
The 31-year-old former mechanic of the 601st Aviation Support Battalion is enjoying perks that eluded him back home in Ohio: a bed, a bank account, a cellphone and friends.
Best of all from his standpoint, he isn't back in Iraq.
"I'm having the time of my life," says Mr. Shepherd, the only American bunking at a refugee-processing center in southern Germany.
The U.S. deserter enters uncharted legal territory on Wednesday, when Germany begins weighing his request for political asylum. The case will put to the test a 2004 European Union directive requiring member countries to grant asylum to soldiers protesting unlawful wars.
He walked away from the military for his convictions. Now, U.S. Army deserter Andre Shepherd seeks political asylum in Germany. WSJ's Mike Esterl reports.
Mr. Shepherd could wind up in a U.S. jail if his application is rejected, but a favorable ruling could open a new escape hatch for Americans stationed in Germany who want to avoid combat duty in Iraq. About 38,000 American soldiers are stationed in Germany, a key logistical hub for the U.S. Army.Mr. Shepherd has no shortage of supporters. Punk rockers gave him shelter after he decamped from a military base near Nuremberg in 2007 and went into hiding. Dozens of peace organizations have championed his cause since he turned himself in to German authorities late last year and applied for asylum.
"He's our poster boy," says Tim Huber of the Military Counseling Network, part of the German Mennonite Peace Committee, a nongovernmental organization helping finance Mr. Shepherd's legal campaign.
All I can say is that Germany better do the right thing and deny asylum.
/hey André, I hear Kansas is a lot of fun too
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BlueCanuck Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:37:35pm |
re: #13 redc1c4
Only 25 people registered. So chances of a troll tonight is probably slim to none. At least from the new registers.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:39:04pm |
re: #19 rawmuse
I saw those same posters last night. I never liked Pepsi.
the interesting thing is all the other brands they own, like Tropicana, Gatorade, Quaker Oats, etc...... and all the related products under those brands, like Rice a Roni, and "Near East" cous-cous products.....
/not buying any of them.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:40:27pm |
re: #22 BlueCanuck
Only 25 people registered. So chances of a troll tonight is probably slim to none. At least from the new registers.
well, where is the fun in that?
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gmsc Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:40:28pm |
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Erik The Red Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:41:22pm |
Morning Lizards on the Hopen thread. Did 44 make the world less safe yesterday? Or is that a stupid question?
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BlueCanuck Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:41:35pm |
re: #21 Killian Bundy
I am still waiting for the war protestors deserters here in Canada to be given the boot. I am thankful that we aren't the haven for runners as we once were during the Vietnam days. Still gets my hackles up that these morons joined freely and decide that they don't want to get shot at. Makes me wonder why they were in the army in the first place. The bright side to all this? At least their bunk mates don't have to keep that extra eye out for their buddy screwing them over in the theatre.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:42:22pm |
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:42:45pm |
re: #26 gmsc
Where I live, it's not even Thursday yet!
i can just imagine Fryday night at your place......
do you break out the colored scratch paper?
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logboy Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:42:52pm |
re: #21 Killian Bundy
U.S. Deserter 'Having Time of My Life' as He Seeks Asylum in Germany
All I can say is that Germany better do the right thing and deny asylum.
/hey André, I hear Kansas is a lot of fun too
That guy is a f-cking pussy and a disgrace to the uniform. Two years ago I lost my arm to an IED in Baghdad. I STILL feel like a shitbag for being sent home before the rest of the guys. The only thing guys like Spec. André L. Shepherd are poster boys for are birth control and UCMJ.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:43:38pm |
re: #28 Erik The Red
Morning Lizards on the Hopen thread. Did 44 make the world less safe yesterday? Or is that a stupid question?
he's busy learning the difference between a door and a window.....
give him a week or two.
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Maximu§ Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:43:45pm |
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quickredfox Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:44:28pm |
re: #19 rawmuse
I saw those same posters last night. I never liked Pepsi.
Never was much for Pepsi either. While looking up PepsiCo's list of products for a to-be-avoided-for-at least-four-years list (too bad about SoBe, I liked their lizard logo), I recalled that it was their CEO who made the America-as-middle-finger-of-the-world speech at the Columbia Business School a few years back.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:45:13pm |
re: #19 rawmuse
Didn't think to ask if you wanted to attend the Ayers thing at St. Mary's - a good number of retired SFPD were there.
I could have picked you up at BART.
Duh.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:45:24pm |
re: #32 logboy
That guy is a f-cking pussy and a disgrace to the uniform. Two years ago I lost my arm to an IED in Baghdad. I STILL feel like a shitbag for being sent home before the rest of the guys. The only thing guys like Spec. André L. Shepherd are poster boys for are birth control and UCMJ.
it's too bad that desertion in the time of war isn't an execution type offense anymore.
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Rustler Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:46:33pm |
re: #15 redc1c4 That's ok Red give it 6 months and even fiat Lux with it's neg 18% rating will be higher than Obama.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:46:55pm |
re: #37 Bobibutu
Didn't think to ask if you wanted to attend the Ayers thing at St. Mary's - a good number of retired SFPD were there.
I could have picked you up at BART.
Duh.
good ol SMC, my not quite alma matter.
still as full of woolly headed idiots as ever, on both sides of the class room.
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Erik The Red Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:48:01pm |
There were a few ID threads earlier. Did anyone have a meltdown and get the stick?
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itellu3times Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:48:19pm |
Just what kind of oath did Obama take today?
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itellu3times Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:48:56pm |
oh, btw, page renders correctly again, and LGF seems fast again, but perhaps you knew that.
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abaleh Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:49:54pm |
re: #36 quickredfox
Pepsi was one of the companies that embraced the Arab embargo on Israel.
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Sharmuta Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:50:24pm |
Oooooo! There's anew book out!
Jerry Coyne's new book 'Why Evolution is True' presents the science that coheres into fact
All this makes Jerry Coyne's lucid, accessible "Why Evolution Is True" desperately needed. With logic and clarity, the University of Chicago professor presents the vast trove of scientific evidence that supports Darwin's theory.
Other recent pro-Darwin books have focused more on defusing the philosophical angst -- no room for God, no purpose or morality to life -- that evolution seems to spark. Coyne, an evolutionary geneticist who studies fruit flies, goes straight for the scientific proof. He draws on fresh findings from his own field, and from paleontology, molecular biology, geology and other disciplines to make the case that evolution is "far more than a theory, let alone a theory in crisis," but "a fact."
Sounds like a page turner!
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Cheechako Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:50:40pm |
re: #42 itellu3times
Just what kind of oath did Obama take today?
I think he was swearing at the House Republicans who voted NO on the stimulus bill.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:50:42pm |
re: #42 itellu3times
I have noticed the rogered threads a few times in Internet Exploder 6. Always happens when someone gets carried away with the sarc tags. Not a big deal really.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:51:12pm |
re: #42 itellu3times
Just what kind of oath did Obama take today?
dunno, but he muttered a few when he couldn't get the door to open..... %-)
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Sharmuta Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:51:26pm |
re: #45 Sharmuta
"We can directly witness natural selection leading to better adaptation," Coyne writes. "Insects have become resistant to DDT and other pesticides, plants have adapted to herbicides, and fungi, worms and algae have evolved resistance to heavy metals that have polluted their environment."
Everyone knows about drug resistance, but few realize that it is a superb example of natural selection in action. "We see fruit flies adapting to extreme temperature, honeybees adapting to competitors, and guppies becoming less colorful to escape the notice of predators. How many more examples do we need?" Coyne asks.
I can't wait to read it.
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logboy Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:51:29pm |
re: #38 redc1c4
Agreed. Although now if someone wants to get out of the military all they have to do is whine about some sort of mental defect. We lost a couple shitbags that way before we even deployed. I was mad at first, but in hindsight it was for the better. I want someone who is going to watch my 6, not someone who is going to puss out the first time you get shot at.
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rawmuse Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:51:42pm |
re: #37 Bobibutu
I have been up to my neck in work, working 10-12 hours days. It is a good thing, because not that long ago I had no prospects, not a one. Now, my phone is ringing and I am even turning down other work. Weird, but I'll take it.
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freetoken Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:51:45pm |
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Sharmuta Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:52:15pm |
"Why Evolution Is True" is not likely to sway avowed creationists, but it's invaluable, engrossing reading for anyone who's uncertain of the facts or who has struggled with how to respond to anti-evolution arguments.
Sounds like a must read for LGFers.
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logboy Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:52:42pm |
re: #42 itellu3times
Just what kind of oath did Obama take today?
It was an oath to bring back the Fairness Doctrine and get rid of Limbaugh once and for all.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:53:51pm |
re: #40 redc1c4
good ol SMC, my not quite alma matter.
still as full of woolly headed idiots as ever, on both sides of the class room.
It was quite an experience. And yes ... more than a few fruit loops loose on the campus.
Kind of like Open Ward lite.
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Rustler Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:54:29pm |
re: #53 Sharmuta But will be deemed the result of bad science like all the anti "manmade global warming" data sheets.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:54:54pm |
re: #56 Bobibutu
It was quite an experience. And yes ... more than a few fruit loops loose on the campus.
Kind of like Open Ward lite.
can you give us a quick report?
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Bob Dillon Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:55:26pm |
re: #51 rawmuse
Great - congrats ... and I'll give the guy here a nudge once again as well.
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:55:48pm |
re: #58 Rustler
But will be deemed the result of bad science like all the anti "manmade global warming" data sheets.
that's because science IS bad.......
/like duh.
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Crux Australis Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:56:06pm |
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gmsc Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:57:25pm |
re: #33 Sharmuta
I like ID threads.
Speaking of things you like, and your recent posting of a Von Trapp children video:
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rawmuse Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:57:53pm |
This was just on Leno (not suitable for pretty much anything)
"Once you go quack, you never go back"
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redc1c4 Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:58:42pm |
question for the old timers:
do you get a pin, or a coffee cup or something when you hit the 10K postings mark?
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Bob Dillon Wed, Jan 28, 2009 11:59:05pm |
re: #59 redc1c4
can you give us a quick report?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I thot the guy who slowly walked up to the podium and got in Ayers face was going to shoot him. Instead he shook a Bible and cussed at him till security escorted him out.
A major con job all the way around. Ayers is very smart but has no integrity.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:00:40am |
Proof That Men Have Better Friends
A woman fails to come home one night. When she gets home the next morning she tells her husband she stayed at a friend's house. The husband calls ten of her best friends and none of them know anything about it.
A man fails to come home one night. When he gets home the next morning he tells his wife he stayed at a friend's house. The wife calls ten of his best friends. Eight of them confirm it and two say he's still there.
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:00:49am |
I have purchased a set of enviro friendly nappies for a newborn friend. They are environmentally friendly and reusable too. And they are made of this new space age substance thats more friendly for the environment than plastic too.
Its called .. COTTON
Wow .. are these things cool or what?
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:01:26am |
re: #66 redc1c4
What you get is the number 10,000 after "No. of comments posted:"
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:02:20am |
re: #65 rawmuse
This was just on Leno (not suitable for pretty much anything)
"Once you go quack, you never go back"
Funny as hell. I'm glad the colors werent reversed though.
"ACLU stands up for black duck brutality raped by white dog."
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:03:00am |
re: #69 Buster Bunny
I have purchased a set of enviro friendly nappies for a newborn friend. They are environmentally friendly and reusable too. And they are made of this new space age substance thats more friendly for the environment than plastic too.
Its called .. COTTON
Wow .. are these things cool or what?
That depends. What's are "nappies" and how do newborns use them?
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Render Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:03:12am |
Friday? No way...
Whew, it's Thursday, trash day. I thought I...waitasec.
I forgot to take the cans out.
BRB,
R
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quickredfox Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:04:31am |
re: #70 Sharmuta
What you get is the number 10,000 after "No. of comments posted:"
At the rate I post I've got a looooong way to go.
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:05:34am |
re: #73 gmsc
That depends. What's are "nappies" and how do newborns use them?
Auto Translation for Americana : nappies = diapers.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:05:46am |
A Mom is driving a little girl to her friends house for a play date.
"Mommy," the little girl asks, "how old are you?"
"Honey, you are not supposed to ask a lady her age," the mother warns. "It is not polite."
"OK," the little girl says, "How much do you weigh?"
"Now really," the mother says, "these are personal questions and are really none of your business."
Undaunted, the little girl asks, "Why did you and daddy get a divorce?"
"That is enough questions, honestly!" The exasperated mother walks away as the two friends begin to play.
"My Mom wouldn't tell me anything," the little girl says to her friend.
"Well," said the friend, "all you need to do is look at her drivers license.
It is like a report card, it has everything on it."
Later that night the little girl says to her mother, "I know how old you are, you are 32."
The mother is surprised and asks, "How did you find that out?"
"I also know that you weigh 140 pounds."
The mother is past surprise and shock now. "How in heavens name did you find that out?"
"And," the little girl says triumphantly, "I know why you and daddy got a divorce."
"Oh really?" the mother asks. "Why?"
"Because you got an F in sex."
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:07:12am |
re: #78 Buster Bunny
Auto Translation for Americana : nappies = diapers.
Oh ... cotton diapers. Got it. Yep, pretty cool. Except for the washing.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:08:02am |
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:08:06am |
Moses and Jesus were in a threesome playing golf one day. Moses pulled up to the tee and drove a long one. The ball landed in the fairway, but rolled directly toward a water hazard. Quickly Moses raised his club, the water parted and it rolled to the other side, safe and sound.
Next, Jesus strolled up to the tee and hit a nice long one directly toward the same water hazard. It landed right in the center of the pond and kind of hovered over the water. Jesus casually walked out on the pond and chipped the ball onto the green.
The third guy got up and randomly whacked the ball. It headed out over the fence and into oncoming traffic on a nearby street. It bounced off a truck and hit a nearby tree. From there, it bounced onto the roof of a shack close by and rolled down into the gutter, down the drain spout, out onto the fairway and straight toward the aforementioned pond. On the way to the pond, the ball hit a stone and bounced out over the water onto a lily pad, where it rested quietly. Suddenly a very large bullfrog jumped up on a lily pad and snatched the ball into his mouth. Just then, an eagle swooped down and grabbed the frog and flew away. As they passed over the green, the frog squealed with fright and dropped the ball, which bounced right into the cup for a hole in one.
Moses turned to Jesus and said, "I hate playing with your Dad."
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Bob Dillon Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:08:29am |
re: #79 Erik The Red
True story: My step daughter once asked if the F by sex stood for forbidden.
Mom and I lost it.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:09:29am |
After retiring, I went to the Social Security office to apply for Social Security. The woman behind the counter asked me for my driver's license to verify my age. I looked in my pockets and realized I had left my wallet at home.
I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have to go home and come back later.
The woman said, 'Unbutton your shirt'.
So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair. She said, 'That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for me' and she processed my Social Security application.
When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my experience at the Social Security office.
She said, 'You should have dropped your pants. You might have gotten disability, too'.
And then the fight started...
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:09:50am |
My wife and I were sitting at a table at my high school reunion, and I kept staring at a drunken lady swigging her drink as she sat alone at a nearby table.
My wife asked, 'Do you know her?' 'Yes,' I sighed, 'She's my old girlfriend. I understand she took to drinking right after we split up those many years ago, and I hear she hasn't been sober since.'
'My God!' says my wife, 'Who would think a person could go on celebrating that long?'
And then the fight started...
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infopimp Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:10:23am |
Fauxtography update:
[Link: www.drfunkenberry.com...]
Photo shop has hit Vogue. Last September’s Vogue featured Sienna Miller’s head on a different photo of her because they thought the original shot was too toothy! Wow. They used a photo taken in 2007 on the head shot taken last year.
This is due to come soon in a behind the scenes documentary. Man! I thought only guys pretending to be girls did that on myspace! Yeesh.-Dr.FB
/As if Photoshop didn't hit Vogue the moment it was available...
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:10:31am |
re: #69 Buster Bunny
I have purchased a set of enviro friendly nappies for a newborn friend. They are environmentally friendly and reusable too. And they are made of this new space age substance thats more friendly for the environment than plastic too.
Its called .. COTTON
Wow .. are these things cool or what?
I remember my "Potty Years" . . .
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:10:33am |
I rear-ended a car this morning. So, there we were alongside the road and slowly the other driver got out of his car.
You know how sometimes you just get soooo stressed and little things just seem funny? Yeah, well I couldn't believe it...he was a DWARF!
He stormed over to my car, looked up at me, and shouted, 'I AM NOT HAPPY!'
So, I looked down at him and said, 'Well then, which one of the Seven Dwarfs are you?'
And then the fight started...
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:11:00am |
re: #76 quickredfox
Believe me, it kind of sneaks up on you.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:11:04am |
A woman is standing nude, looking in the bedroom mirror. She is not happy with what she sees and says to her husband, 'I feel horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you to pay me a compliment.'
The husband replies, 'Your eyesight's damn near perfect.'
And then...
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:12:38am |
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:13:48am |
re: #91 Erik The Red
So the question I have to ask is, how long have you been married? And do you keep all the firearms locked up?
/I miss my wife, but the good news is my aim is improving. . . .
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:15:34am |
An elderly couple was attending Mass.
About halfway through, the wife leans over and says to her husband, 'I just let out a silent fart; what do you think I should do?'
He replies, 'Put a new battery in your hearing aid.'
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melinwy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:16:34am |
Erik thanks for you jokes...funny :-)....logboy, thank you for your service to our country, for your sacrifice no words will truly suffice, I think I can say lizard nation has your back, I will, the deserters are well no words can convey how I feel about them, worthless gives them too much value.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:16:48am |
re: #91 Erik The Red
A woman is standing nude, looking in the bedroom mirror. She is not happy with what she sees and says to her husband, 'I feel horrible; I look old, fat and ugly. I really need you to pay me a compliment.'
The husband replies, 'Your eyesight's damn near perfect.'
And then...
The suit I'm wearing today was present from my wife. It was on a chair in the bedroom when I came home.
I got a fur coat for my wife.
It was the best trade I ever made!
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:16:57am |
Sounds like Jerry Coyne is having words with some other biologists.
Yikes!
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IslandLibertarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:18:26am |
Usually, after being drunk all night, I've had to come up with an alibi.
I left the theorizing to my ex's...........
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Spar Kling Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:18:29am |
I just finished Michael Behe's book, The Limits of Evolution. I found it pretty interesting and entertaining, but evolutionists of course will be able to easily refute it with the usual ad hominem and straw dummy responses.
Meanwhile, welcome to the USSA -- the United Socialist States of America. Everyone can breathe a sigh of relief--we won't have to worry about Evil Intelligent Design wedging into Science classrooms and indoctrinating helpless children with blank minds, because the new social agenda will be doing all the indoctrinating from now on to create John Dewey's New Socialist Person!
Finally, we will have a worker's paradise without being ashamed at our excess wealth and consumption compared to the rest of the third world. We will all be equal in every way worldwide, one nation under Benevolent Government assuring peace and justice and no global warming for all and forever. (wiping away a tear)
We can all stand and salute with a "Yes, we can!" as we are volunteered by our neighborhood coordinator to pick up litter, repair roads, and do good things resulting in a wonderful feeling that we are One, and if we ever need anything at all, we just have to stand in line, enjoying the conversation with our fellow citizens . . .
-sk
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:22:22am |
Creationists make it sound as though a “theory” is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night.
— Isaac Asimov
Roh no! Lord knows I knocked back plenty of beers when I came up with my 'Colombia/Ukraine/Turkey will be thrown to the wolves on 0bama's watch' theory.
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Keyboard Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:22:51am |
I just read up about Obama's stimulus plan. Is it right that it's ~800 billion *on top of* the 750 billion from Bush? I thought it was an extension (like an extra 50 billion), not an entirely new source of funding.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:24:06am |
re: #99 Spar Kling
I just finished Michael Behe's book, The Limits of Evolution. I found it pretty interesting and entertaining, but evolutionists of course will be able to easily refute it with the usual ad hominem and straw dummy responses.
Meanwhile, welcome to the USSA -- the United Socialist States of America. Everyone can breathe a sigh of relief--we won't have to worry about Evil Intelligent Design wedging into Science classrooms and indoctrinating helpless children with blank minds, because the new social agenda will be doing all the indoctrinating from now on to create John Dewey's New Socialist Person!
Finally, we will have a worker's paradise without being ashamed at our excess wealth and consumption compared to the rest of the third world. We will all be equal in every way worldwide, one nation under Benevolent Government assuring peace and justice and no global warming for all and forever. (wiping away a tear)
We can all stand and salute with a "Yes, we can!" as we are volunteered by our neighborhood coordinator to pick up litter, repair roads, and do good things resulting in a wonderful feeling that we are One, and if we ever need anything at all, we just have to stand in line, enjoying the conversation with our fellow citizens . . .
-sk
Don't come and fuck up a hopen thread go post this shit on a ID thread.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:24:34am |
re: #97 Sharmuta
Fascinating stuff, I must continue my education on this subject.
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:25:39am |
re: #102 Keyboard
I just read up about Obama's stimulus plan. Is it right that it's ~800 billion *on top of* the 750 billion from Bush? I thought it was an extension (like an extra 50 billion), not an entirely new source of funding.
Woo hoo! Our checks from Obama are in the mail!
And if you believe that I have a beautiful timeshare in Iraq I'd like to sell you.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:25:45am |
Good Morning, Admiral.
I appreciate you asking me here to give my side of the story, particularly
after the unfortunate, sensationalized accounts that came out in the
anti-military media.
First of all, I'd like to point out that my predecessor left me a real mess.
That ship was totally unsatisfactory when I took over, and the few months I had to correct things before the "incident" were far too short. I knew that whatever he had done before was totally wrong, since he came from the [redacted] community, and they're all a bunch of Bozo's.
Excuse me, Sir?.... No, actually, I was not aware you were part of that
community....
Yes, Sir, I suppose I really should have checked that out before this
proceeding....
Yes, Sir, I'll move on in my discussion.
As soon as we cleared the pier, I dismissed the tugs. I don't believe it
looks good to imply that a ship that big needs any help from anybody. We
headed down the channel, and I called for Ahead Full as soon as we were on initial course.
Yes, Admiral?....
Well, I learned early in flight training the importance of speed, the faster
the better. It seemed to make sense to apply the same principles in this
case, since going fast means you get past the potential problem spots
quicker.
After we had spent a while in the channel, I could clearly see the open
ocean ahead. Since we were already pointed in that direction, I ordered
"Steady As She Goes". This caused a bit of commotion among some of the less decisive officers on the bridge, but I ignored them.
Sir?....
Charts?....
Well, I'm the Captain, not a chart checker. Anyway, some of those charts
are ten years old, and they're full of guesswork and opinions. The water
looked fine to me, at least the part I could see.
nyway, as we headed out to sea, the Navigator started making a fuss, and the CIC people kept making annoying calls to the bridge. I had the CIC speakers turned off, and asked the Navigator what his problem was. He was agitated, quite undignified in my opinion. He kept poking a spot on the chart with his finger. To humor him, I took a look and saw that the chart showed a sand bar in our path. I assured him that my SUV plows through sand all the time with no problem, and a big old aircraft carrier shouldn't have any trouble with that sort of thing.
Anyway, I certainly couldn't have ordered a course change, since that would shown a lack of resolve and confidence.
A few minutes later, the speed on the pit log started to drop, so I ordered
"All Ahead Flank" to make up the difference. However, due to the poor
condition of the plant and the incompetence of the Engineer Officer, the
ship continued to slow and eventually came to a stop.
Admiral?.... Are you OK?.... Can you still hear me with your head on the
table like that ?....
I'll continue, Sir. I hope you feel better.
Once we had stopped, I knew I had to take decisive action. Since it would
have been bad for morale to admit to a mistake, I got on the 1MC and
announced to the crew that we had reached our destination. To make sure they bought the story, I ordered a steel beach picnic. It did seem a bit unusual only 2 hours after "shift colors", but no sailor is going to turn
down sliders on the flight deck. The Pork Chop did seem a bit irritated at
the short notice, but he was always a malcontent and not a team player.
The next day, the crew was getting a bit suspicious. The Signalmen were
happy, since we were still close enough for them to use the "Big Eyes" to
check out the beach, but I felt an increasing lack of confidence from the
rest of the crew. To deal with this, I sent the ship to General Quarters
and lit off all the weapons systems to keep the crew occupied. The
unfortunate accident with the CIWS and the Channel 5 NewsCopter was the result of the lack of fire control discipline by the Weapons Officer.
Sir?... Could I perhaps get you a glass of water?
(part 1)
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:26:18am |
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the very nice
helicopter you sent to bring me to this meeting. I must apologize for the
regrettable display of dropped trousers by a disaffected minority of my crew
as we left. I suspect that the poor leadership of the Operations Officer
and several of the embarked squadron CO's was to blame.
I would also like to point out that I never actually touched the wheel
during the entire voyage, there was some BM3 who actually steered us into
the grounding. I forget his name, but I am sure he was a troublemaker.
IT WASN'T MY FAULT!
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:27:33am |
re: #99 Spar Kling
I just finished Michael Behe's book, The Limits of Evolution. I found it pretty interesting and entertaining, but evolutionists of course will be able to easily refute it with the usual ad hominem and straw dummy responses.
Straw dummy responses? Get real here. Evolution is science. Therefore there must be actual proofs in order for it to be considered. And as far as we know there are know limits to evolution. Even when we as humans are gone it will keep chugging away as if nothing ever happened.
| 110 |
redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:27:38am |
re: #99 Spar Kling
you're living proof there's nothing intelligent about our design....
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Bob Dillon Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:27:52am |
re: #102 Keyboard
I just read up about Obama's stimulus plan. Is it right that it's ~800 billion *on top of* the 750 billion from Bush? I thought it was an extension (like an extra 50 billion), not an entirely new source of funding.
Own it. Embrace it. Swallow it. The House version of the $1.1 trillion Generational Theft Act of 2009 is all the Democrats’ doing now.
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:28:02am |
re: #104 MrPaulRevere
I can't wait to read the new book, but the inter-biologist war is about as interesting as inter-Lizard bickering.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:28:04am |
re: #105 logboy
Logboy, I had no idea about what happened to you. Words rarely fail me but this is one of those times. Thanks so much for your service and God bless in your future endeavors.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:29:32am |
re: #99 Spar Kling
I just finished Michael Behe's book, The Limits of Evolution. I found it pretty interesting and entertaining, but evolutionists of course will be able to easily refute it with the usual ad hominem and straw dummy responses.
My understanding was Ken Miller and other biologists refuted it with actual science.
| 117 |
jroberson Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:29:54am |
re: #5 abaleh
Ignorance only allows you to ignore the solution.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:29:54am |
re: #98 IslandLibertarian
Usually, after being drunk all night, I've had to come up with an alibi.
I left the theorizing to my ex's...........
i always keep my alibis simple: "i got fucking hammered."
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:31:08am |
re: #115 Sharmuta
My understanding was Ken Miller and other biologists refuted it with actual science.
my understanding was that his was a straw dummy post.....
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:33:08am |
40 Things You'll Never Hear From A Redneck
40. Oh I just couldn't. Hell, she's only sixteen.
39. I'll take Shakespeare for 1000, Alex.
38. Duct tape won't fix that.
37. Lisa Marie was lucky to catch Michael.
36. Come to think of it, I'll have a Heineken.
35. We don't keep firearms in this house.
34. Has anybody seen the sideburns trimmer?
33. You can't feed that to the dog.
32. I thought Graceland was tacky.
31. No kids in the back of the pick-up, it's just not safe.
30. Wrasslin's fake.
29. Honey, did you mail that donation to Greenpeace?
28. We're vegetarians.
27. Do you think my gut is too big?
26. I'll have grapefruit and grapes instead of biscuits and gravy.
25. Honey, we don't need another dog.
24. Who's Richard Petty?
23. Give me the small bag of pork rinds.
22. Too many deer heads detract from the decor.
21. Spittin is such a nasty habit.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:33:10am |
re: #117 jroberson
Ignorance only allows you to ignore the solution.
and it keeps you happy while doing so.....
"The person who stands up and says, 'This is stupid,' either is asked to 'behave' or, worse, is greeted with a cheerful 'Yes, we know! Isn't
it terrific!'" - Frank Zappa
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:33:15am |
20. I just couldn't find a thing at Walmart today.
19. Trim the fat off that steak.
18. Cappuccino tastes better than espresso.
17. The tires on that truck are too big.
16. I'll have the arugula and radicchio salad.
15. I've got it all on the C drive.
14. Unsweetened tea tastes better.
13. Would you like your salmon poached or broiled?
12. My fiance, Bobbie Jo, is registered at Tiffany's.
11. I've got two cases of Zima for the Super Bowl.
10. Little Debbie snack cakes have too many fat grams.
09. Checkmate.
08. She's too young to be wearing a bikini.
07. Does the salad bar have bean sprouts?
06. Hey, here's an episode of 'Hee Haw' that we haven't seen.
05. I don't have a favorite college team.
04. Be sure to bring my salad dressing on the side.
03. I believe you cooked those green beans too long.
02. Those shorts ought to be a little longer, Darla.
01. Nope, no more for me. I'm drivin' tonight.
| 123 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:34:28am |
A rich millionaire decides to throw a massive party for his 50th birthday, so during this party he grabs the microphone and he announces to his guests that down in the garden of his mansion he has a swimming pool with two great white sharks in it. 'I will give anything they desire of mine, to the man who swims across that pool.'
So the party continues with no events in the pool, until suddenly, there is a great splash and all the guests of the party run to the pool to see what has happened.
In the pool is a man and he is swimming as hard as he can, and the fins come out of the water and the jaws are snapping and this guy just keeps on going and the sharks are gaining on him and this guy reaches the end and he gets out of the pool, tired and soaked.
The millionaire grabs the microphone and says, 'I am a man of my word, anything of mine I will give, my Ferraris, my house, absolutely anything, for you are the bravest man I have ever seen. So sir what will it be?' the millionaire asks.
The guy grabs the microphone and says, 'Why don't we start with the name of the bastard that pushed me in!'
| 124 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:35:17am |
re: #102 Keyboard the stimulus is something different from the bail out.
| 125 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:35:26am |
re: #112 Sharmuta
I find it fascinating actually, much like the debate between David Horowitz and his detractors.
| 126 |
gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:36:02am |
Excerpts from letters to landlords:
The toilet is blocked and we cannot bathe the children until it is cleared.
I want some repairs done to my stove as it has backfires and burnt my knob off.
This is to let you know that there is a smell coming from the man next door.
The toilet seat is cracked: where do I stand?
I am writing on behalf of my sink, which is running away from the wall.
I request your permission to remove my drawers in the kitchen.
Our lavatory seat is broken in half and is now in three pieces.
The person next door has a large erection in his back garden, which is unsightly and dangerous.
Will you please send someone to mend our cracked sidewalk? Yesterday my wife tripped on it and is now pregnant.
Our kitchen floor is very damp, we have two children and would like a third, so will you please send someone to do something about it.
Will you please send a man to look at my water? It is a funny color and not fit to drink.
Would you please send a man to repair my downspout? I am an old-age pensioner and need it straight away.
Could you please send someone to fix our bath tap? My wife got her toe stuck in it and it is very uncomfortable for us.
I want to complain about the farmer across the road. Every morning at 5:30 his cock wakes me up, and it is getting too much.
When the workmen were here, they put their tools in my wife's new drawers and made a mess. Please send men with clean tools to finish the job and keep my wife happy.
| 127 |
redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:36:33am |
The king had been overthrown and all in his family, except for one
lunatic brother, were executed. The people looked at the loony royal
in his cell, and said, "It is a shame to let the crazy prince live,
but because of his mental illness, we should not slay him, either, or
there could truly be divine retribution!"
"We can release him, and let him find his own way in the world!
Should his imbecile manner cause him to starve to death, it shall be
upon him: should he make his way, however, then he has earned the
right to live!"
The revolutionaries released the imbecile royal, and sent him away
to sink or swim.
Soon, the young man came to a farm house, and asked for a bite of
food to eat. The peasant farmer said that he had very little to feed
him, save a bowl of beans. The prince took that and wolfed it down.
As it grew dark, the farmer asked the prince if he had anywhere to
stay that night. When told no, the farmer invited him to spend the
night. Suddenly, the gastric process of digesting the beans hit, and
the sound of flatulence resounded around the hovel... but being ROYAL
flatulence, it was not a simple BRAAAPP of the commoner! Nay, instead,
it was a perfect redition of several bars of a Beethoven symphony.
The farmer was astounded, knowing full well that this could be his
ticket off the farm if he played it right.
Over the next few weeks, the farmer experimented with different,
gas producing foods, until he got the right mix together that the
young man could sustain an entire symphony of flatulence.
Next the farmer went into the city, and rented a music hall!
He sold tickets for the most astounding musical performance ever to
be seen by man. People bought the tickets, and soon he was sold out.
He next brought the prince into town, got him some new, clean
finery with a drop seat so the cloth wouldn't deaden the sound of the
musical gas!
Opening night arrived: the house was full! The farmer led the prince
out into the middle of the stage, had the prince turn around, bend
over, then opened the drop seat of his trousers.
The people were aghast when suddenly, the cheeks parted rhythmically
as the blasts of BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAAAAAAAAAP resounded in the hall!
Suddenly, a man stood up and yelled, "PEOPLE! WE'VE WASTED OUR
MONEY COMING HERE. THIS IS NOT ENTERTAINMENT! NO, IT'S NOT
ENTERTAINMENT; IT'S JUST SOME ASSHOLE PLAYING BEETHOVEN!"
The farmer looked at the man and said, "It's more than mere
entertainment, good sir! Yes, for this is the fartist formerly known
as Prince!
| 128 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:39:00am |
re: #125 MrPaulRevere
I plan on reading the previous blog post too that started this on-going discussion.
| 129 |
logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:40:18am |
re: #113 MrPaulRevere
Not to blow my own horn but since we're on the subject....
The sad thing is Charles did some database work while I was in Iraq and I lost my account. He was kind enough to make me a new one when I got home though.
A lot of people here dont get why i get so pissed off about Obama and his views on Iran and Iraq. I tend to get a few down-dings and lectures about being an ass. If they had vested the same things I have I think they would understand.
| 130 |
redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:40:37am |
>I was shopping at the local supermarket where I selected:
>A half-gallon of 2% milk,
>A carton of eggs,
>A quart of orange juice,
>A head of romaine lettuce,
>A 2 lb. can of coffee, and
>A 1 lb. package of bacon.
>
>As I was unloading my items on the conveyor belt to check out, a drunk
>standing behind me watched as I placed the items in front of the
>cashier.
>
>While the cashier was ringing up the purchases, the drunk calmly stated,
>"You must be single."
>
>I was a bit startled by this proclamation, but I was intrigued by the
>derelict's intuition, since I was indeed single. I looked at the six
>items on the belt and saw nothing particularly unusual about my
>selections that could have tipped off the drunk to my marital status.
>
>Curiosity getting the better of me, I said: "Well, you know what, you're
>absolutely right. But how on earth did you know that?"
>
>The drunk replied, "Cause you're ugly."
| 131 |
Fenway_Nation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:40:46am |
Q: How do you keep an 0bama voter busy for several hours at a time?
A: Give them a bag of M&Ms and tell them to alphabetize each one
| 132 |
logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:40:58am |
re: #108 Keyboard
logboy, I'm still waiting for my pony
I wonder what tastes better, pony or unicorn?
| 133 |
redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:45:28am |
re: #129 logboy
Not to blow my own horn but since we're on the subject....
The sad thing is Charles did some database work while I was in Iraq and I lost my account. He was kind enough to make me a new one when I got home though.
A lot of people here dont get why i get so pissed off about Obama and his views on Iran and Iraq. I tend to get a few down-dings and lectures about being an ass. If they had vested the same things I have I think they would understand.
i'm pretty sure i understand, and all i did was wreck my ankle in peacetime.
found this trolling for humor posts:
A PAID POLITICAL ANNOUNCEMENT
BY SEN. BARACK OBAMA
(D- ILL)
My fellow Identity-Americans.
As your future president I want to thank my supporters, for their... well, support.
Your mindless support of me, despite my complete lack of any legislative achievement, my pastor's relations with Louis Farrakhan and Libyan dictator Moamar Quadafi, or my blatantly leftist voting record while I present myself as some sort of bi-partisan agent of change.
I also like how my supporters claim my youthful drug use and criminal behaviour somehow qualifies me for the Presidency after 8 years of claiming Bush's youthful drinking disqualifies him. Your hypocrisy is a beacon of hope shining over a sea of political posing.
I would also like to thank the Kennedys for coming out in support of me. There's a lot of glamour behind the Kennedy name, even though JFK started the Vietnam War, his brother Robert illegally wiretapped Martin Luther King Jr. and Teddy killed a teenage girl. And I'm not going anywhere near the cousins, both literally and figuratively.
And I'd like to thank Oprah Winfrey for her support.
Her love of meaningless empty platitudes will be the force that propels me to the White House.
Americans should vote for me, not because of my lack of experience or achievement, but because I make people feel good. Voting for me causes some white folk to feel relieved of their imagined, racist guilt.
I say things that sound meaningful, but don't really mean anything because Americans are tired of things having meaning. If things have meaning, then that means you have to think about them.
Americans are tired of thinking.
It's time to shut down the brain, and open up the heart.
So when you go to vote in the primaries, remember don't think, just do.
And do it for me.
Thank You.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:45:32am |
A train hits a busload of Essex Schoolgirls and they all perish.
They are all in heaven trying to enter the pearly gates past St.Peter.
St Peter asks the first girl (from Southend), "Karen, have you ever had any contact with a mans thing?"
She giggles and shyly replies, "Well I once touched the head of one with the tip of my finger"
St. Peter says, "OK, dip the tip of your finger in The Holy Water and pass through the gate."
St. Peter asks the next girl (from Chelmsford) the same question, "Joanne have you ever had any contact with a mans thing?"
The girl is a little reluctant but replies "Well once I fondled and stroked one."
St. Peter says "OK, dip your whole hand in The Holy Water and pass through the gate."
All of a sudden there is a lot of commotion in the line of girls, and the girl from Romford is pushing her way to the front of the line.
When she reaches the front of the line St. Peter says "Tracy! What seems to be the rush?"
The girl replies.."If I'm going to have to gargle that Holy water...I want to do it before Lorraine sticks her arse in it!"
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:46:13am |
re: #131 Fenway_Nation
Q: How do you keep an 0bama voter busy for several hours at a time?
A: Give them a bag of M&Ms and tell them to alphabetize each one
0bama supporter: "Let's see . . . E, M, W . . .hey - what do I do with these 3's?"
| 136 |
redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:46:41am |
re: #132 logboy
I wonder what tastes better, pony or unicorn?
put the poney inside the unicorn, like a turduckhen.......
/then wrap them in bacon.
| 137 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:48:15am |
re: #129 logboy
By all means continue to tell it like it is. What we need now more than ever is blunt spoken people who refuse to bow down before the PC juggernaut. Cool blog by the way.
| 138 |
gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:49:05am |
The Execution
Two prisoners, sentenced to die in the electric chair on the same day were led down to the room in which they would meet their maker.
The priest had given the last rites, the formal speech had been given by the warden, and a final prayer had been said among the participants. The warden, turning to the first man, solemnly asked, "Son, do you have a last request?"
To which the man replied, "Yes sir, I do. I love dance music. Could you please play "The Macarena" for me one last time?"
"Certainly," replied the warden.
He turned to the other man and asked, "Well, what about you, son? What is your final request?"
"Please," said the condemned man, "KILL ME FIRST.
| 139 |
gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:57am |
Sex is not the answer!
(Sex is the question. "Yes" is the answer.)
| 140 |
redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:10am |
re: #139 gmsc
Sex is not the answer!
(Sex is the question. "Yes" is the answer.)
i always put "yes please" on the form.....
| 141 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:18am |
Older than the hills but..
The Lone Ranger is captured by Indians...
The Indian Chief proclaims, "So, you are the great Lone Ranger. In honor of the Harvest Festival, you will be executed in three days. But, before I kill you, I will grant you three requests.
What is your first request?"
The Lone Ranger responds, "I'd like to speak to my horse."
The Chief nods and Silver is brought before the Lone Ranger, who whispers in Silver's ear, and the horse gallops away. Later that evening, Silver returns with a beautiful blonde woman on his back.
As the Indian Chief watches, the blonde enters the Lone Ranger's tent and spends the night.
The next morning the Indian Chief admits he's impressed.
"You have a very fine and loyal horse, but I will still kill you in two days. What is your second request?"
The Lone Ranger again asks to speak to his horse. Silver is brought to him, and once again he whispers in the horse's ear. As before, Silver takes off across the plains and disappears over the horizon.
Later that evening, to the Chief's surprise, Silver again returns, this time with a brunette, even more attractive than the blonde. She enters the Lone Ranger's tent and also spends the night.
The following morning the Indian Chief is again impressed. He tells the Lone Ranger, "You are indeed a man of many talents, but I still kill you tomorrow. "So what is your last request?"
The Lone Ranger responds,
"I'd like to speak to my horse.... alone."
The Chief is curious, but he agrees and Silver is brought to the Lone Ranger's tent.
Once they're alone, the Lone Ranger grabs Silver by both ears, looks him square in the eye and says:
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:51am |
Hamas officials signal willingness to negotiate
That raises the question of whether Hamas, which receives much of its funding and weapons from Tehran, can be coaxed out of Iran's orbit. That question looks less preposterous than it did before President Barack Obama began extending olive branches to the Muslim world and Israel's Gaza offensive reshuffled Mideast politics.
The militants appear to be in the throes of an internal power struggle between hard-liners and pragmatists. Which group comes out on top will likely depend on who is able to garner the most benefits in postwar Gaza.
With hawks urging more violence, the window of opportunity to boost the voices of relative moderation is likely to be short
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:57am |
re: #139 gmsc
Does this include that time your were propositioned by Micheal Moore?
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:53:11am |
Three men are sitting stiffly side by side on a long commercial flight.
After they're airborne and the plane has leveled off, the man in the
window seat abruptly says, distinctly and confidently, in a loud voice,
'Admiral, United States Navy, retired. Married, two sons, both
surgeons.'
After a few minutes the man in the aisle seat states through a tight
lipped smile, ' Admiral , United States Coast Guard, retired. Married,
two sons, both Judges.'
After some thought, the fellow in the center seat decides to introduce
himself. With a twinkle in his eye he proclaims, ' Master Gunnery
Sergeant, United States Marine Corps, retired. Never married, two sons,
both Admirals.
-----------------------------------------------
During training exercises, the lieutenant who was driving down a muddy
back road encountered another jeep stuck in the mud with a red-faced
colonel at the wheel. 'Your jeep stuck, sir?' asked the lieutenant as
he pulled alongside. 'Nope,' replied the colonel, coming over and
handing him the keys, 'Yours is.'
---------------------------------------------
Having just moved into his new office, a pompous, new colonel was
sitting at his desk when an airman knocked on the door. Conscious of
his new position, the colonel quickly picked up the phone, told the
airman to enter, then said into the phone, 'Yes, General, I'll be
seeing him this afternoon and I'll pass along your message. In the
meantime, thank you for your good wishes, sir.' Feeling as though he
had sufficiently impressed the young enlisted man, he asked, 'What do
you want?' 'Nothing important, sir,' the airman replied, 'I'm just here
to hook up your telephone.'
--------------------------------------------------
Officer: 'Soldier, do you have change for a dollar?' Soldier: 'Sure,
buddy.' Officer: 'That's no way to address an officer! Now let's try it
again! Do you have change for a dollar?' Soldier: 'No, SIR!'
-------------------------------------------------
An Air Force chief master sergeant and a general were sitting in the
barbershop. They were both just getting finished with their shaves,
when the barbers reached for some after-shave to slap on their faces.
The general shouted, 'Hey, don't put that stuff on me! My wife will
think I've been in a whorehouse!' The sergeant turned to his barber and
said, 'Go ahead and put it on me. My wife doesn't know what the inside
of a whorehouse smells like.'
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'Well,' snarled the tough old Navy chief to the bewildered seaman, 'I
suppose after you get discharged from the Navy, you'll just be waiting
for me to die so you can come and pee on my grave.' 'Not me, Chief!'
the seaman replied. 'Once I get out of the Navy, I'm never going to
stand in line again!'
-----------------------------------------------
The elderly American gentleman arrived in Paris by plane. At French
Customs, he fumbled for his passport.
'You 'have been to France before, monsieur?' the customs officer asked
sarcastically. The old gent admitted that he had been to France
previously. 'Zen, you should know enough to 'have your passport ready
for inspection.' The American said, 'The last time I was here, I didn't
have to show it.' 'Impossible. You Americans always 'have to show your
passports on arrival in France !' The American senior gave the
Frenchman a long hard look. Then he quietly explained, 'Well, when I
came ashore at Omaha Beach in '44 I couldn't find any Frenchmen to show
it to.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:53:56am |
re: #143 Fenway_Nation
Does this include that time your were propositioned by Micheal Moore?
Moving on to another topic . . .
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:12am |
"Listen very carefully you dumb ass horse.
For the last time . . . BRING POSSEEEE".
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astronmr20 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:10am |
I can't stand it anymore. This asshat Algore is now asking for some of the bailout money to go to stopping greenhouse gasses.
I'm on the verge of saying things that will either get me banned or picked up by the Secret Service...
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:00am |
Fast food customers across America rejoiced recently as McDonald's released
the newest item in their diverse menu selection. The new drink, "The
McForty" malt liquor, has been added to the standard array of soft drinks
and shakes.
"The addition was clear," explained Frank Robertson from McDonald's public
relations, "We've always offered malted shakes, why not malt liquor?"
Fast food experts are divided on their opinion of the McForty. Expert Jim
McGillis states: "This is a great day for fast food patrons everywhere. Not
only can a customer get cheap, low quality food, they can also get cheap,
low quality alcohol. I can't think of a better complement to an
artery-clogging Double Quarter-Pounder with Cheese than a refreshing,
brain-numbing malt liquor."
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:56am |
re: #147 astronmr20
I can't stand it anymore. This asshat Algore is now asking for some of the bailout money to go to stopping greenhouse gasses.
I'm on the verge of saying things that will either get me banned or picked up by the Secret Service...
well, i suggest you change into something sexy first.............
/white smoke
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:10am |
A husband and wife were out playing golf. They tee off and one drive goes to the right and one drive goes to the left. The wife finds her ball in a patch of buttercups. She grabs a club and takes a mighty swing at the ball. She hits a beautiful second shot, but in the process she hacks the hell out of the buttercups.
Suddenly a woman appears out of nowhere. She blocks her path to her golf bag and looks at her and says, "I'm Mother Nature, and I don't like the way you treated my buttercups. From now on, you won't be able to stand the taste of butter. Each time you eat butter you will become physically ill to the point of total nausea."
The mystery woman then disappears as quickly as she appeared. Shaken, the wife calls out to her husband "Hey, where's your ball?"
"It's over here in the pussy willows."
The wife screams back, "DON'T HIT THE BALL! DON'T HIT THE BALL!"
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:45am |
re: #146 Erik The Red
"Listen very carefully you dumb ass horse.
For the last time . . . BRING POSSEEEE".
"OK, men, it's the time we've all been waiting for. It's time to attack the city! Now, let's rape all the women, kill all the animals, and LET'S GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME!"
-Ghengis Kahn
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:58:01am |
Obama White House may send letter to unfreeze US-Iran relations
President Barack Obama's administration is considering sending a letter to Iran aimed at unfreezing US-Iranian relations and opening the way for face-to-face talks, the Guardian has learned.
The US state department has been working on drafts of the letter since Obama was elected on November 4. The letter would be in reply to a lengthy one of congratulations sent by the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, on November 6.
Diplomats say Obama's letter would be a symbolic gesture to mark a change in tone from the hostile one adopted by the Bush administration, which portrayed Iran as part of an "axis of evil".
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:58:54am |
re: #152 Sharmuta
Obama White House may send letter to unfreeze US-Iran relations
He's surrendering?
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:44am |
re: #152 Sharmuta
Maybe 0bama could use his Blackberry to text his new BFF, Dinnerjacket.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:49am |
re: #151 gmsc
Rules of highly successful pirates. #1. First pillage THEN burn.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:58am |
re: #142 Sharmuta
By all means, lets listen to the moderate Nazi's /
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:00:17am |
re: #137 MrPaulRevere
Thanks, the blog is a new experiment in political writing. I am sick and tired of the liberal hipocricy and I needed to find a place to let it out.
Believe it or not, this January makes 9 years that I've been blogging. I was one of the first couple thousand or so people to join Blogger. I even have a blogger t-shirt that Evan Williams (the creator) was selling as a fund raiser. I still remember people asking me, "What's a blog?" after they saw my shirt.
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astronmr20 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:00:52am |
re: #152 Sharmuta
Obama White House may send letter to unfreeze US-Iran relations
Dear A-jad,
I think u r cute. Do u like me? Please check one:
_Yes
_No
_Maybe
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:01:01am |
re: #156 MrPaulRevere
Unless they change their charter- it's no different than any other "truce".
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:20am |
"This is no shit":
it was one of the early days of that magnificent adventure now recorded
in the annals of history as "Golden Spike 01", and yours truly was off
to the makings of yet another fine army day.
leaving our palatial barracks i evidently was targeted by
persons unknown with a wrinkle grenade.....and got
caught in a dust barrage
trying to avoid the full effects of said insidious device. surviving
the onslaught, i made my way to DISCOM's alleged mess hall, where i
was part of yet another Bio-War experiment against helpless soldiers.
using my grab for an MRE as cover, i barely escaped with my life.
pondering my options at such an early hour on Club Bob,
("The antidote to reenlistment" TM) it was sadly apparent that my only
real option was to saddle up in my UAV and do a mounted recon/
road clearing movement to my duty AO... so off in to the sunrise i went.
having made the trip with negative contact, i manuvered my vehicle up
under cover for the day, and dismounted.
now we had this really "nice" old Sargent pulling night duty, mostly to
avoid having him have to deal with people or problems........
i walk up to the building and standing out front is our resident SPOT,
an e-4 idiot child who's greatest accomplishment of AT was constructing
name plates for people's desks out of 100mph tape and WORD documents,
smoking a cigarette without a care in the world.
inside was SGT Afewbricksshort, and a ACTIVE full bird........
(right here all my ECM went off, but obviously just a skosh late %-)
said Col was in the midst of a full fledged "potty dance", bouncing up
and down the empty building ranting and raving about a mission, a
driver,
a fast approaching SP time, and a general......(oh joy)
first words addressed to me were "Are you my driver?" Always bright,
witty and cheerful at such an early hour, my reply was along the line
of:
"I haven't been briefed on any mission sir, but i'm sure we can figure
out who is...." (yup, i can sling it starting REAL early)
we went to the mission board, and the initial problem was glarringly
apparent. we had it for a 0700 departure, and his nibs wanted to be
moving NLT 0630.
feeling suicidal, i allowed as how that if no one assigned showed up
in time, i would be happy to drive him...... sure enough, no one came,
and off we went, leaving dumb and dumber to relate their version of the
events to the command group as they came in.........
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:24am |
re: #154 Fenway_Nation
Maybe 0bama could use his Blackberry to text his new BFF, Dinnerjacket.
I decay my BFF Dinnerjacket?
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:54am |
meanwhile i'm sailing down 101 to Paso Robles with said bird, exchanging
pleasentries and tid bits of military background. having mentioned that
i was Cav, we discussed the Squadron for a bit, with him singing their
praises, and me wondering what unit he was talking about.... %-)
he then proceeded to call ahead to the CSM that we were indeed enroute,
on time and would be ready for his nibs, rather than making him wait,
as they had been afraid of.
(evidently this is a very *bad* thing for active types)
(at this point i told the Col that he had witnessed on of the great
battles in history, my sense of duty vs. my survival instinct in
avoiding
Col's, generals, and such.... he seemed ammused)
we get to Paso, clean up the van as best we can,
(for some reason we had plenty of time) and wait.................
then we wait some more. finally, i move the van over to the rooms,
load the baggage and we're off to the airport.
there everyone dismounts, i load the baggage into the CSM's pov, and
stand around with a thumb up while they brief the days festivities.
(i can't leave until the crash hawks get off the ground,in case their
hamsters are tired and they have to move by ground after all)
briefing is finaly over, out comes the whole parade, and said General
says, "Where's that Specialist that drove us?" wondering what PFC
pay for AT was going to be, i said "Here, Sir", saluting.
he simply shook my hand, placing a coin in it, and said, "Let's go!"
out to the birds the went, and off to Hungry Lizzard they were in
a few, leaving our hero standing there slightly stunned, and in
posession of a coin from the Commander, US Fifth Army.
gathering my wits, i stopped in paso for a taste of real food, and
proceeded to RTB........ where the story of the morning had evidently
been subject to inflation and no little consernation.
"YOU SENT WHO TO PICK UP WHO?".......
i pulled in, and Top was out front maintaining his nicotine level.
he thanked me for taking the fall, and asked how it went....
(preparing for damage control, no doubt)
finally awake enough for full smartass mode i said, "Okay i guess..."
and flipped him the coin....... %-)
redc1c4,
who NEVER wants to meet another 3 star
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:03:02am |
re: #161 Sprite
I'm a bit weary of the creationist bashing around here. Count me in as a believer.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:03:16am |
re: #161 Sprite
I'm a bit weary of the creationist bashing around here. Count me in as a believer.
You believe the earth is 6000 years old?
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Bob Dillon Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:03:20am |
re: #152 Sharmuta
Obama White House may send letter to unfreeze US-Iran relations
This is the BS theme that Ayers droned on about tonight. The scary part is that they really believe it will work.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:03:33am |
A young couple wanted to join the church, the pastor told them, 'We have a special requirement for new member couples. You must abstain from sex for one whole month.'
The couple agreed, but after two-and-a-half weeks returned to the Church.
When the Pastor ushered them into his office, the wife was crying and the husband was obviously very depressed. 'You are back so soon... Is there a problem?' the pastor inquired.
'We are terribly ashamed to admit that we did not manage to abstain from sex for the required month.' The young man replied sadly.
The pastor asked him what happened.
'Well, the first week was difficult... However, we managed to abstain through sheer willpower.
The second week was terrible, but with the use of prayer, we managed to abstain. However, the third week was unbearable.
We tried cold showers, Prayers, reading from the Bible...anything to keep our minds off Carnal Thoughts.
Until one afternoon my wife reached for a can of paint and dropped it. When she bent over to pick it up, I was overcome with lust and I just had my way with her right then and there.
It was lustful, loud, passionate sex. It lasted for over an hour and when we were done we were both drenched in sweat,' admitted the man, shamefacedly.
The pastor lowered his head and said sternly, 'You understand this means you will not be welcome in our church.'
'We know.' said the young man, hanging his head, 'We're not welcome at Home depot either.'
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Keyboard Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:04:14am |
Rustler (or anyone else), what's the difference between the bailout and the stimulus? They seem basically the same to me.
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astronmr20 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:04:48am |
re: #161 SpriteI'm a bit weary of the creationist bashing around here. Count me in as a believer.
You believe the earth is 6000 years old?
Creationist thread is 2 threads down, folks.
Srsly.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:05:32am |
re: #170 logboy
Alright, who the hell is the Frenchman on his staff?
It's a woman, and her name is clinton.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:05:41am |
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:11am |
re: #165 gmsc
Believer, not a monkey... although I loved that song in the day.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:52am |
re: #175 Sprite
Believer, not a monkey... although I loved that song in the day.
Monkee, not monkey.
Did you listen to the song? It's called "I'm a Believer".
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:07:09am |
re: #161 Sprite
I'm a bit weary of the creationist bashing around here. Count me in as a believer.
so, you believe in the theory of evolution?
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:07:09am |
re: #166 Sharmuta
I'm a believer in the Divine: ageless, timeless, eternal. You?
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:07:28am |
re: #175 Sprite
We're not monkeys- but we have a common ancestor.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:07:44am |
re: #177 redc1c4
I believe that evolution is part and parcel of the Divine.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:08:17am |
re: #178 Sprite
I believe in God and accept the veracity of evolution, but you didn't answer my question. Do you think the earth is 6000 years old?
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spidly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:08:37am |
re: #169 Keyboard
Rustler (or anyone else), what's the difference between the bailout and the stimulus? They seem basically the same to me.
What do they say about doing the same thing over expecting a different result?
The Bailout was stupid, the Stimulus is crazy.
I can hear the rustle of stagflation in the distance.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:09:25am |
re: #181 Sharmuta
You know, sharm, I already answered your question.
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astronmr20 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:05am |
Oh for diety/ universal consciousness/ science's sake.
Here we go again.
Love you both Sprite and Sharm, but srsly. 2 threads the other way.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:37am |
re: #159 Sharmuta
Its the same old pig with new lipstick. I'm sure Jimmy Carter, Michael Lerner and George Galloway and the pinko choir will continue to sing their praises. I wish the IDF would finish this task once and for all.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:44am |
re: #169 Keyboard
Rustler (or anyone else), what's the difference between the bailout and the stimulus? They seem basically the same to me.
the bailout poured nonexistent cash down various financial rat holes, never to be seen again.
the stimulus takes nonexistent cash and lards it out to fund various guaranteed to fail government programs that are run by, or aid, various Donkey fans as a reward for ideological purity.
hope that helps!
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:11:54am |
Air Traffic Lulz
"TWA 2341, for noise abatement turn right 45 Degrees."
"Centre, we are at 35,000 feet. How much noise can we make up here?"
"Sir, have you ever heard the noise a 747 makes when it hits a 727?"
From an unknown aircraft waiting in a very long takeoff queue: "I'm f...ing bored!"
Ground Traffic Control: "Last aircraft transmitting, identify yourself immediately!"
Unknown aircraft: "I said I was f...ing bored, not f...ing stupid!"
Tower: "Delta 351, you have traffic at 10 o'clock, 6 miles!"
Delta 351: "Give us another hint! We have digital watches!"
Control tower to a 747: "United 329 heavy, your traffic is a Fokker, one o'clock, three miles, Eastbound."
United 239: "Approach, I've always wanted to say this... I've got the little Fokker in sight."
A DC-10 had come in a little hot and thus had an exceedingly long roll out after touching down. San Jose Tower noted: "American 751, make a hard right turn at the end of the runway, if you are able. If you are not able, take the Guadalupe exit off Highway 101, make a right at the lights and return to the airport."
A military pilot called for a priority landing because his single-engine jet fighter was running "a bit peaked." Air Traffic Control told the fighter pilot that he was number two, behind a B-52 that had one engine shut down. "Ah," the fighter pilot remarked, "The dreaded seven-engine approach."
Allegedly, a Pan Am 727 flight waiting for start clearance in Munich overheard the following:
Lufthansa (in German): "Ground, what is our start clearance time?"
Ground (in English): "If you want an answer you must speak in English."
Lufthansa (in English): "I am a German, flying a German airplane, in Germany. Why must I speak English?"
Unknown voice from another plane (in a beautiful British accent): "Because you lost the bloody war."
Tower: "Eastern 702, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on frequency 124.7"
Eastern 702: "Tower, Eastern 702 switching to Departure. By the way, after we lifted off we saw some kind of dead animal on the far end of the runway."
Tower: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff behind Eastern 702, contact Departure on frequency 124.7. Did you copy that report from Eastern 702?"
Continental 635: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff, roger; and yes, we copied Eastern... we've already notified our caterers."
Pilot: "DAMN! That was close..."
IAD Tower: "Delta 560, what seems to be the problem?"
Pilot (catching his breath), "Near miss- was he ever close!"
IAD Tower: "Delta 560, how close was it?"
Pilot: "Well, I can tell you one thing, it was a white boy flying it."
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:11:54am |
re: #187 MrPaulRevere
Its the same old pig with new lipstick. I'm sure Jimmy Carter, Michael Lerner and George Galloway and the pinko choir will continue to sing their praises. I wish the IDF would finish this task once and for all.
They shouldn't have stopped.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:11:55am |
re: #185 astronmr20
Oh for diety/ universal consciousness/ science's sake.
Here we go again.
Love you both Sprite and Sharm, but srsly. 2 threads the other way.
i've got more jokes i can post, if that'll help?
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:33am |
re: #183 spidly
I'm thinking we'd be fortunate to avoid Weimar-like inflation at the rate we're printing and giving away money.
Speaking of- how much $$$ is ACORN getting in this new 'stimulus bill'?
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:51am |
re: #181 Sharmuta
I believe in God and accept the veracity of evolution, but you didn't answer my question. Do you think the earth is 6000 years old?
Well, its been here as long as I have. So its at least 30 years old, maybe even more.
| 198 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:27am |
| 199 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:45am |
re: #164 redc1c4
I do believe I have read that piece before. Reminds me of the charlie foxtrots I dealt with when I was doing time in. Learned the hard way, never let an officer be the navigator when you are driving. They don't know the difference between a tank trail and a dirt road. Especially at night.
| 201 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:16:51am |
re: #193 redc1c4
No problem except that this site continues to denigrate those who believe in the Divine.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:21am |
logboy- your sacrifice is still being honored, imo
Iraq voters cast early ballots in provincial elections
Hope that doesn't offend you- I just like to see that new democracy functioning.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:52am |
re: #192 Fenway_Nation
I'm thinking we'd be fortunate to avoid Weimar-like inflation at the rate we're printing and giving away money.
Speaking of- how much $$$ is ACORN getting in this new 'stimulus bill'?
remember, chart 2 is the same numbers as chart one, but with last fall added in. the difference is so large that all previous fluctuations are flattened out in comparison.
chart 3 is money supply: it doubled in a month or so.
| 205 |
astronmr20 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:43am |
For the ultimate battle of science vs. religion, please refer to this film.
In teh meantime, plz to clear thread.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:44am |
re: #190 Sharmuta
I'm not Jewish nor an Israeli so I hesitate to criticize their actions. I do wish them every success. Having said all of that they do seem to have an annoying tendency of backing off before they achieve true success.
| 207 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:51am |
An 18 year old Italian girl tells her Mom that she has missed her period for 2 months. Very worried, the mother goes to the drug store and buys a pregnancy kit.
The test result shows that the girl is pregnant! Shouting, cursing, crying, the mother says, "Who was the pig that did this to you? I want to know!"
The girl picks up the phone and makes a call. Half an hour later, a Ferrari stops in front of their house. A mature and distinguished man with gray hair and impeccably dressed in an Armani suit steps out of the of the Ferrari and enters the house.
He sits in the living room with the father, mother, and the girl and tells them: "Good morning; your daughter has informed me of the problem. I can't marry her because of my personal family situation but I'll take charge. I will pay all costs and provide for your daughter for the rest of her life.
Additionally, if a girl is born, I will bequeath a Ferrari, a beach house, 2 retail stores, a townhouse, a beachfront villa, and a $2,000,000 bank account.
If a boy is born, my legacy will be two factories and a $4,000,000 bank account. If twins, they each will receive a factory and $2,000,000.
However, if there is a miscarriage, what do you suggest I do?" At this point, the father, who had remained silent, places a hand firmly on the man's shoulder and tells him, "You f*** her again."
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astronmr20 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:56am |
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:19:10am |
re: #201 Sprite
That's not true. Charles is doing nothing of the sort!
Believing in God doesn't make you a creationist. Thinking the earth is 6000 years old or 10,000 years old and rejecting evolution does.
The Catholic Church and other various religious institutions accept evolution and that doesn't make them anti-God.
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:20:39am |
re: #199 BlueCanuck
I do believe I have read that piece before. Reminds me of the charlie foxtrots I dealt with when I was doing time in. Learned the hard way, never let an officer be the navigator when you are driving. They don't know the difference between a tank trail and a dirt road. Especially at night.
That one's easy. Just drive 100 feet down it. If you don't end up stuck or upside down then you're on a dirt road.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:21:12am |
re: #199 BlueCanuck
I do believe I have read that piece before. Reminds me of the charlie foxtrots I dealt with when I was doing time in. Learned the hard way, never let an officer be the navigator when you are driving. They don't know the difference between a tank trail and a dirt road. Especially at night.
it's posted on my pathetic excuse for a blog..... %-)
"what are you afraid of Specialist? everything i can't see, sir....."
/the next hill top there was a herd of deer that would have killed us in the jeep, if i hadn't slowed down like he didn;t want me to. at least he hever bitched about my driving again....
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:26am |
re: #201 Sprite
No problem except that this site continues to denigrate those who believe in the Divine.
COMPLETE NONSENSE. LGF is not hostile to believers.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:27am |
re: #201 Sprite
No problem except that this site continues to denigrate those who believe in the Divine.
bullshit.
OTOH, people stuck on stupid (from either side) tend to find the experience painful.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:07am |
Especially for the Men! TAKE NOTE.!
When our lawn mower broke down my wife kept hinting to me that I should get
it fixed. But somehow I always had something else to take care of first,
fishing, the car, playing golf - always something more important to me
Finally she thought of a clever way to make her point: When I arrived home
one day, I found her sitting in the tall grass busily snipping away at the
grass with a tiny pair of nail scissurs .
I watched silently for a short time and then went into the house. I was
gone only a minute, and when I came out again I handed her a toothbrush.
I said "when you finish cutting the grass, you might as well sweep the
driveway!"
The doctors say I will walk again, but I will always have a limp.
Moral to this story > Marriage is a relationship in which one person is
always right, and the other is the husband,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:26:29am |
re: #209 Sharmuta
Perhaps I'm not hep to the latest jive. But I do know that it seems that every time I come here (which is daily) there is some sort of denigration going on related to Creationists.
In my rubric Creationists, generally speaking, are those who believe that this Earth and *all of us* were created by, and are of, the Divine.
Anyone who casually stops by this site would believe the same.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:26:47am |
re: #211 logboy
Heh, good one. Unfortunately I was driving a CP, lead of a convoy of MLVW's towing guns. Naturally they all followed me. About 100 meters in I realized the mistake. I immediately went from cats eyes to full high beam. Since this was supposed to be a tactical exercise the officer started screaming at me for breaking light discipline. I pointed out to him the condition of the trail and what usually travelled on it at high speeds. The bug eyes and pale face was the best thing I saw all week. The other officer with me asked why I didn't stop and back up. Well having driven in quite a few winters at the time, I pointed out to him that the condition of the road was so bad that if I stopped we would need to be towed out. Mind you this was mid summer. Fun times in deed.
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:26:52am |
re: #212 redc1c4
it's posted on my pathetic excuse for a blog..... %-)
"what are you afraid of Specialist? everything i can't see, sir....."
/the next hill top there was a herd of deer that would have killed us in the jeep, if i hadn't slowed down like he didn;t want me to. at least he hever bitched about my driving again....
Funny (and scary), my driver in Iraq was slightly dyslexic. While dodging potholes he sometimes didn't see (because they were on the passenger side) I would yell out "left! right!" and so on. There were so many times he would do the opposite of what I said that I swore that bastard was out to kill me. There is nothing quite like the anticipation of driving over a large pothole and waiting for an IED to go off.
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astronmr20 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:22am |
re: #215 redc1c4
Especially for the Men! TAKE NOTE.!
When our lawn mower broke down my wife kept hinting to me that I should get
it fixed. But somehow I always had something else to take care of first,
fishing, the car, playing golf - always something more important to me
Finally she thought of a clever way to make her point: When I arrived home
one day, I found her sitting in the tall grass busily snipping away at the
grass with a tiny pair of nail scissurs .
I watched silently for a short time and then went into the house. I was
gone only a minute, and when I came out again I handed her a toothbrush.
I said "when you finish cutting the grass, you might as well sweep the
driveway!"The doctors say I will walk again, but I will always have a limp.
Moral to this story > Marriage is a relationship in which one person is
always right, and the other is the husband,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
He's lucky it was just a limp....
(I'm engaged, so I read this stuff carefully)
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:25am |
"There was once, O men of Athens, something in the minds of the people that is no longer there --something that defeated the might and wealth of Persia, that vindicated the liberty of Greece, the was never conquered on land or sea, and that is now gone, leaving all Greece in turmoil and dismay.
"And what was that? Nothing elaborate or abstruse, but the simple fact all men hated those who took bribes from the seekers of power and the agents of subversion. That was accounted the greatest of crimes, so that he who was convicted of having been corrupted of bribes or by favors was condemned to the ultimate penalty, with no room for excuse and no hope for pardon.
... But now everything is for sale ... For what are now the consequnces of treason? Envy, for those who have profited; laughter for those who confess; pardon for those who are convicted; and hatred--hatred is now reserved for the man who speaks harshly of treason."
-- Demosthenes, 341 B.C. (written three years before Athens lost her independence) ,
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:29:00am |
1. the doctrine that matter and all things were created, substantially as they now exist, by an omnipotent Creator, and not gradually evolved or developed.
2. (sometimes initial capital letter) the doctrine that the true story of the creation of the universe is as it is recounted in the Bible, esp. in the first chapter of Genesis.
3. the doctrine that God immediately creates out of nothing a new human soul for each individual born
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:24am |
re: #216 Sprite
Obviously you haven't been reading the articles or most of the posts on that topic. What people are discussing is the idiocy of the Disco Institute trying to bring in an anti-science agenda using mushy headed discussions and trying to label it science. Yes you have your anti-religionists here, but you also have those with strong religous backgrounds fighting against it too. Most of the derision is aimed at YEC. A pox upon the face of religion and science as well.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:32:32am |
re: #216 Sprite
Please spare us the nonsensical strawman. Criticizing those who wish to impose a theocratic agenda on the public schools does not equate with bashing Christianity. Get a grip. Please.
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FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:02am |
re: #129 logboy
It is sad to have more respect for ex-NVA than the current DNC. (65-85)
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:34:42am |
re: #222 BlueCanuck
I'm aware and in agreement. It's just that the term creationist, as generally known, is not denigrating in the sense it's portrayed. Those who don't read every frickin' comment won't know the 'nuances' of which you speak.
Sharm at #221,
Count me in for #3.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:34:51am |
"This is from a dissedent group of NCO's I am 'acquainted' with. The unfortunate part is that a lot of this can also apply to some graduates of the Sergeants Major Academy.
-It's more important to look good than to be good.
-Non-matching furniture is a show-stopper. Untrained troops are not a
show-stopper.
-A unit that has no money for new computers or spare parts will still manage to afford a big-screen TV for Powerpoint slide shows.
-A bad plan with good slides is better than a good plan with bad slides.
-Three sergeants thinking about an issue dealing with their MOS for four months and coming up with a detailed plan, is not as good as a colonel who knows nothing about their MOS or the problem thinking about it for 30 seconds.
-When you achieve high rank, the difference between what you know and what you feel fades away.
-The schools officers go to aren't any better than the schools NCOs go to. But an NCO who goes to the ANCOC that deals with his MOS knows he's not necessarily smarter about his MOS; an Army officer who goes to an Air Force graduate school or a Joint College thinks he now knows more about the branch he's been away from for two years.
-A year's hard work by the troops can be destroyed because of some minor
incident that happened to the Colonel when he was a lieutenant.
-Officers sit around thinking a lot. In a vacuum. This is not a good thing.
-Officers think they're businessmen. They think the principles used in business, like "corporate vision" and "TQM" can work in the Army. This is because officers spend a lot of time trying to sell things, usually grand ideas and catchy names.
-Officers believe that a plan won't succeed unless it has a good name, like
"Operation Intrinsic Action." NCOs would rather give it something simple, like "Operation Beat Their ******* Heads In 5," and get on with it.
-Officers really do believe that a soldier is happier when he's busy, even if
he's not doing what's important. NCOs know that nothing is so useless as doing well something which should not be done at all.
-There are a lot of officers out there who would have been better as NCOs, and a lot of NCOs who would have been better as officers.
NCOs NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES refer to other soldiers as "customers."
-Creating a twenty-minute slide show that makes the commander look good will get you the same medal as working your a-- off for 12 months for the same commander.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:35:33am |
"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
"There is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:36:18am |
re: #225 Sprite
PIMF *is* denigrating in the sense it's portrayed here.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:23am |
re: #225 Sprite
Do you accept the veracity of evolution? Then you're not a creationist.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:48am |
re: #169 Keyboard Stimulus was supposed to be a seperate tax rebate type deal. Instead now only about 30% of the 800ish billion will be going to rebates the rest is pork. The bailout was supposed to be mostly bridge loans to banks instead it's mostly pork. So i guess they are similar but were intended for different things.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:55am |
re: #223 MrPaulRevere
I criticized the quote at the top of this thread. No where and at no time did I suggest it should be taught in school. Read.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:38:10am |
Bummer- we're denigrating people who think humans lived with dinosaurs.
But then- maybe we should. It's ridiculous.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:39:07am |
re: #232 Sharmuta
Bummer- we're denigrating people who think humans lived with dinosaurs.
Barbarians!
To be more specific, I believe they're Hannah-Barabarians.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:39:08am |
re: #229 Sharmuta
Please review my comments. I said earlier that I believe that creationism is part and parcel of the Divine. IMHO they are intertwined.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:10am |
re: #185 astronmr20
Open threads are for anything plus there is a Evolution quote as the theme tonight.
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MrPaulRevere Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:12am |
re: #229 Sharmuta
I bet most of the commenter's that bash LGF over this topic haven't step foot in a church in years.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:06am |
re: #230 Rustler
Stimulus was supposed to be a seperate tax rebate type deal. Instead now only about 30% of the 800ish billion will be going to rebates the rest is pork. The bailout was supposed to be mostly bridge loans to banks instead it's mostly pork. So i guess they are similar but were intended for different things.
yer short about 200-300 billion to the kitty, as they're at or over the trillion dollar mark now....... ante up please.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:27am |
re: #234 Sprite
Charles has heard all the claims, and I believe he's going to continue "denigrating" young earth creationists.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:02am |
re: #237 MrPaulRevere
I bet most of the commenter's that bash LGF over this topic haven't step foot in a church in years.
Nor do they want to understand what the issue is.
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:36am |
re: #217 BlueCanuck
Heh, good one. Unfortunately I was driving a CP, lead of a convoy of MLVW's towing guns. Naturally they all followed me. About 100 meters in I realized the mistake. I immediately went from cats eyes to full high beam. Since this was supposed to be a tactical exercise the officer started screaming at me for breaking light discipline. I pointed out to him the condition of the trail and what usually travelled on it at high speeds. The bug eyes and pale face was the best thing I saw all week. The other officer with me asked why I didn't stop and back up. Well having driven in quite a few winters at the time, I pointed out to him that the condition of the road was so bad that if I stopped we would need to be towed out. Mind you this was mid summer. Fun times in deed.
I have one like that. I was on one of my first convoys in Iraq and I was TC for the lead convoy vehicle. I had 30 semi trucks behind me carrying food and two other gun trucks. We were headed to Balad, an hour or so north of Baghdad. Baghdad is very confusing. No street signs, nothing is marked, everything is poorly lit. Trash is everywhere. The scout truck radioed back that they had marked our turn off with some blue chem lights. I saw what I thought was the turn off, but when I didn't see the chem lights I kept driving. 30 seconds later I heard "stop stop stop!" over the radio from the last gun truck. I had taken a wrong turn in downtown Baghdad at 1 a.m. with 30 semi trucks behind me. It took about an hour to get all the semi trucks turned around and back to turn off. It turns out, the second time the scout truck went up the ramp they double checked something that looked suspicious when they drove by the first time. As luck would have it, they had found two large garbage bags filled with homemade explosives. When EOD showed up to blow them up, they prematurely detonated. Those were two of the largest IEDs I ever saw blowup in Iraq.
I missed the turn off because both chem lights had mysteriously rolled into the ditch where I could not see them. That had never happened before, nor did it ever happen again. Had they not rolled into the ditch we would have driven right into those IEDs. When we all (finally) got to Balad we all agreed that it was a case of "divine intervention". We should have been dead.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:46am |
re: #221 Sharmuta
1. the doctrine that matter and all things were created, substantially as they now exist, by an omnipotent Creator, and not gradually evolved or developed.
2. (sometimes initial capital letter) the doctrine that the true story of the creation of the universe is as it is recounted in the Bible, esp. in the first chapter of Genesis.
3. the doctrine that God immediately creates out of nothing a new human soul for each individual born
4. People who believe The Flintstones was a documentary series.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:47:01am |
re: #201 Sprite
There is very little denigration of Religious belief on this site. Winston went a bit overboard the other day but other than that we are a conglomerate of many religions from paganistic to jewish, to christian to athiest/agnostics. What we do insult is those who in the face of overwhelming evidence continue to take a book written by men as fact despite the evidence showing things to the contrary.
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yochanan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:47:42am |
re: #194 logboy
Well, its been here as long as I have. So its at least 30 years old, maybe even more.
i will have to ask my wife she is older than me
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freetoken Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:09am |
re: #242 gmsc
4. People who believe The Flintstones was a documentary series.
Hey, but people and dinosaurs did live together, here is the proof!
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:09am |
re: #241 logboy
the military is good for "come to Jesus" moments.......
one of my faves was when we were standing on a 25 meter range and we heard a "WHIZ.....POP".
looked up and saw some dust, and a range control truck flying into our AO.
a 155 shell had hit funny, ricocheted over the center of the impact area, and finally come to rest just over there........ where it low order detonated.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:06am |
re: #244 yochanan
i will have to ask my wife she is older than me
natural selection at w*rk....... just don't talk to her about mowing the lawn. %-)
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:50am |
re: #245 freetoken
Hey, but people and dinosaurs did live together, here is the proof!
I'm the fact that I'm supposed to click on a link provided by a guy whose avatar is Barack 0bama, and that is sponsored by Blackberry.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:38am |
re: #251 gmsc
I'm the fact that I'm supposed to click on a link provided by a guy whose avatar is Barack 0bama, and that is sponsored by Blackberry.
RACIST!
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:24am |
re: #246 redc1c4
155 rounds are no joke. I saw a lot of IEDs made out of them. "Danger close" has a whole new meaning when you're looking through your windshield at it lying in the road 20 feet in front of your humvee.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:34am |
re: #247 Sprite
You don't seem to understand- Charles has stated, repeatedly, he's not going to stop posting on this subject.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:13am |
re: #247 Sprite
And in fact, it's creationists that are doing a disservice- to the GOP, to American school children, and science and it's rewards.
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:54am |
re: #245 freetoken
Hey, but people and dinosaurs did live together, here is the proof!
I know for a fact dinosaurs and humans lived together. How else did they film "Land of the Lost"?
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:21am |
re: #255 Sharmuta
Yep. But it's a shame, really, because the 'flavor' of his posts seems to dis those who believe. If someone doesn't have the time to delve into the comments and 'nuances' (G-d I hate that lib word), they won't get it.
My point is the site is alienating many who might otherwise agree and delve in further.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:38am |
re: #254 logboy
155 rounds are no joke. I saw a lot of IEDs made out of them. "Danger close" has a whole new meaning when you're looking through your windshield at it lying in the road 20 feet in front of your humvee.
trust me when i tell you we weren't laughing...... once it sunk in what had happened, there were lots of grey faces.
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:53am |
re: #234 Sprite
Please review my comments. I said earlier that I believe that creationism is part and parcel of the Divine. IMHO they are intertwined.
Karma. Toilet. Opinion.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:57:39am |
re: #259 Sprite
It's only alienating creationists trying to undermine science education in this country, and that's kind of the point.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:57:51am |
re: #238 redc1c4 Ok so nows it's more like 22% of the 1 plus trillion is going as tax rebates to stimulate the economy rest is freaking pork. Sorry I quite listening to Stimulus talk last week because I came close to breaking the TV.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:58:03am |
re: #257 logboy
How else did they film "Land of the Lost"?
Yup, exactly my point... we are fortunate to have cinematographers who will travel to such distant places and times to bring us back the record.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:58:04am |
re: #259 Sprite
Yep. But it's a shame, really, because the 'flavor' of his posts seems to dis those who believe. If someone doesn't have the time to delve into the comments and 'nuances' (G-d I hate that lib word), they won't get it.
My point is the site is alienating many who might otherwise agree and delve in further.
if they are willing to make a decision without research, i don;t hold much hope for them even if they do.......
/no loss
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:58:41am |
re: #256 Sharmuta
I do NOT believe that creationism should be taught in science classes. Period. But to ridicule the 'thought' of a Divine creation, which also incorporates evolution is repugnant.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:59:39am |
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:59:58am |
due to an intelligent design on my part, the fruitcup i've created tonight is over there------------------------------------>
help yourself while we wait for LoL to come staggering in.
/white smoke
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:00:05am |
re: #260 redc1c4
trust me when i tell you we weren't laughing...... once it sunk in what had happened, there were lots of grey faces.
If there is one lesson I learned in Iraq, its don't worry about stuff like that. You will not be around to hear or see the bomb that kills you. I learned that lesson the hard way.
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littleoldlady Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:00:22am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:00:35am |
re: #268 redc1c4
due to an intelligent design on my part, the fruitcup i've created tonight is over there------------------------------------>
help yourself while we wait for LoL to come staggering in.
/white smoke
missed it by *that* much..... %-)
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:00:57am |
re: #266 Sprite
And that's NOT what's going on here. Charles has repeatedly stated that.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:03am |
re: #270 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!
Yum! Thanks! (I'm also having a donut chaser).
re: #268 redc1c4
due to an intelligent design on my part, the fruitcup i've created tonight is over there------------------------------------>
help yourself while we wait for LoL to come staggering in.
/white smoke
Reason #1 not to believe in intelligent design.
;)
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:18am |
re: #250 Sprite
And yet you still don't understand it isn't religion being bashed butrahter those running around with eyes wide shut.
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:02:20am |
re: #266 Sprite
I do NOT believe that creationism should be taught in science classes. Period. But to ridicule the 'thought' of a Divine creation, which also incorporates evolution is repugnant.
The most dangerous thing that is happening in Americas classrooms today is the revision of their textbooks by political influences outside of the classroom. With this happening, we will be taught whatever the commercial entity of the day chooses, or a historical text that 'appeases' the murderous intimidators of our educational forums.
Make no mistake, education is the first battle that needs to be won.
People need to be able to count, read, write and work out from teachers what is ACTUALLY best for them, not what will make them hate other people better.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:02:33am |
re: #270 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!
Morning lol. Thank you for fruitcup.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:02:42am |
Thank you littleoldlady. You do wonderful service. :)
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:07am |
re: #269 logboy
If there is one lesson I learned in Iraq, its don't worry about stuff like that. You will not be around to hear or see the bomb that kills you. I learned that lesson the hard way.
this was pre-9/11 peacetime NG/Army on a rifle range...... it was the absolute surprise factor of the completely, and theoretically impossible, unexpected near death event.
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TheMatrix31 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:48am |
re: #285 BlueCanuck
Thank you littleoldlady. You do wonderful service. :)
The fruitcup industry does not need a bailout.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:05:17am |
re: #283 Sprite
Sad you think so.
sadder that you don;t see my point.
BTW: you are now officially violating the first law of holes.
/quit digging
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:05:30am |
re: #270 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------->
Help yourselves!
Its been a bad day for the evolutionist in me. My fruitcup grew legs and teeth to defend itself, and I have the bite marks to prove it.
Who'da Thunk .... fruitcup could fight back?
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:05:37am |
re: #266 Sprite Very few here Ridicule the Divine. You just don't get it none of Charles' topic quotes denigrate belief in the divine. Your ignorance as to what the generally accepted definition of a term and throwing your own definition into it to shoehorn Charles and other Lizards is your own problem.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:05:58am |
re: #282 Buster Bunny
I have many more concerns that trump this particular issue.
Little 'Ole - mwah to you - such a long time... Hope you are well and have had a break from FC duty over the holidays!
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:20am |
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littleoldlady Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:22am |
BlueCanuck! :-)
Just later and later every day... :-/
Matrix! :-)
IT doesn't, no.
/ME, on the other hand...
//I should check my Powerball numbers
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:34am |
re: #288 redc1c4
sadder that you don;t see my point.
BTW: you are now officially violating the first law of holes.
/quit digging
Whats the second law of hole dynamics?
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:22am |
re: #289 Buster Bunny
Its been a bad day for the evolutionist in me. My fruitcup grew legs and teeth to defend itself, and I have the bite marks to prove it.
Who'da Thunk .... fruitcup could fight back?
You had red's fruitcup first didn't you. . . .
/white smoke.
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TheMatrix31 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:31am |
re: #295 littleoldlady
BlueCanuck! :-)
Just later and later every day... :-/
Matrix! :-)
IT doesn't, no.
/ME, on the other hand...
//I should check my Powerball numbers
If you win, send some money my way. I need to get out of LA as soon as possible.
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spidly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:38am |
I'm thinking we'd be fortunate to avoid Weimar-like inflation at the rate we're printing and giving away money.Speaking of- how much $$$ is ACORN getting in this new 'stimulus bill'?
Next they'll have to enlist printers and classrooms of kids with potato stamps to keep up. Wasn't one of the first things the soviets did in their occupied territories after WWII was to flood the economies with worthless notes?
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:41am |
re: #293 BlueCanuck
Make up your mind why don't you.
she should start with a good foundation........
(is it too early for a pun thread? %-)
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:50am |
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:58am |
re: #296 Buster Bunny
Whats the second law of hole dynamics?
According to 0bama dynamics, it is that you have to dig your way out of a hole.
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littleoldlady Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:08:00am |
Bunny! :-)
{Evolutionist}
/there, there
//pats Bunny on the back...
'Morning, Sprite! :-)
How've you been?
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:08:04am |
re: #296 Buster Bunny
When you hit bed rock, don't break out the explosives.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:08:55am |
re: #301 Buster Bunny
red fruitcup bad?
Nooooooooo. . . . But it does have some mind altering effects.
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littleoldlady Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:09:13am |
re: #298 TheMatrix31
If you win, send some money my way. I need to get out of LA as soon as possible.
Baby, with the weather we've been having here, let me make it simple and cheap for you.
LET'S TRADE!
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:09:20am |
re: #283 Sprite
No sad for you that You feel we should key a discussion to the lowest common denominator to avoid alienating someone who isn't m,otivated enough to research a definition before assuming someone is denigrating them.
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SixDegrees Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:09:45am |
Here's a story: the mayor of Gulfport, Mississippi and his wife have been hit with a 16-count indictment alleging fraud against FEMA related to hurricane Katrina.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
I have searched several sources, and not one of them mentions the good Mayor's party affiliation.
I'm guessing there would be a "(D)" after his name, if it weren't for this oversight.
But maybe I'm wrong, and journalistic standards now recommend leaving off party affiliation when identifying politicians.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:09:46am |
Belief in God does not preclude belief in evolution.
Belief in evolution does not preclude belief in God.
Do not trust those who insist otherwise.
This is what Charles has posted repeatedly. So to say he's denigrating people of faith is just utterly false.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:09:57am |
re: #274 Sharmuta
I agree. But if one only reads the headlines... that is the impression one would receive.
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:13am |
re: #306 BlueCanuck
Nooooooooo. . . . But it does have some mind altering effects.
I feel like I just had that choice they give you in the Matrix. Red fruitcup .. or Blue fruitcup.
Looks like this aint Kansas anymore .. Toto ...
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:42am |
re: #289 Buster Bunny
Think you grabbed one from Red's table. That is an intended feature.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:47am |
re: #307 littleoldlady
Baby, with the weather we've been having here, let me make it simple and cheap for you.
LET'S TRADE!
and then you'd be my neighbor....... %-)
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:03am |
re: #290 Rustler
READ the top of the post, And kindly refrain from your insults.
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littleoldlady Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:15am |
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:25am |
re: #311 Sprite
I agree. But if one only reads the headlines... that is the impression one would receive.
if one only reads the headlines, then one is a moron, and has no business being on LGF.
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:01am |
re: #314 Rustler
Think you grabbed one from Red's table. That is an intended feature.
How did Microsoft get in on the act?
Error 404 - Fruitcup not found
Please consult littleoldlady for further questions.
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:12am |
re: #286 redc1c4
this was pre-9/11 peacetime NG/Army on a rifle range...... it was the absolute surprise factor of the completely, and theoretically impossible, unexpected near death event.
A few years ago (pre 9/11 as well) my buddy was doing at night fire on a NG range in northern MN. Apparently there was some confusion and disorganization in regards to where the firing line was. My buddy was in the foxhole shooting, his spotter was sitting on his butt outside the hole. Someone had thought the firing line was somewhere else and had mistakenly lined up a ways behind them. While my buddy was shooting at the targets, his spotter beside him got shot by the said shooter. My buddy didn't know it until he finished and looked over at him.
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TheMatrix31 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:44am |
re: #307 littleoldlady
Baby, with the weather we've been having here, let me make it simple and cheap for you.
LET'S TRADE!
Temps in the 70s for the rest of the week....
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FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:46am |
re: #270 littleoldlady
Excellent fruitcup as usual. Thank you littleoldlady.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:47am |
re: #318 redc1c4
if one only reads the headlines, then one is a moron, and has no business being on LGF.
LGFers tend to dig deeper than a mere glance at headlines.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:13:05am |
re: #303 littleoldlady
Every time I think of you I think of my brother, Danny, who lives right next door to you.
That is a very good thing. I'm fine, thank you. I hope you are very, very well.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:27am |
re: #321 logboy
A few years ago (pre 9/11 as well) my buddy was doing at night fire on a NG range in northern MN. Apparently there was some confusion and disorganization in regards to where the firing line was. My buddy was in the foxhole shooting, his spotter was sitting on his butt outside the hole. Someone had thought the firing line was somewhere else and had mistakenly lined up a ways behind them. While my buddy was shooting at the targets, his spotter beside him got shot by the said shooter. My buddy didn't know it until he finished and looked over at him.
that's just completely fucked up........ hope several people lost everything over that..... and that the victim got through it ok.
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littleoldlady Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:29am |
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:35am |
re: #318 redc1c4
Ok, fine. Forget the thousands who might read the comments otherwise. Pleh.
/I send people here all the time.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:15:03am |
re: #311 Sprite I call bs the nly religion that has every been denegrated in a thread topic is Islam by refering to some in the religion as Islamofascists and the have earned the name. Creationism isn't a religion! Creationism is Antiscience.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:15:35am |
re: #322 TheMatrix31
Temps in the 70s for the rest of the week....
SSSHHHHH! don't say anything or they'll all try and move here.
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Buster Bunny Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:11am |
re: #328 Sprite
Ok, fine. Forget the thousands who might read the comments otherwise. Pleh.
/I send people here all the time.
Well Sprite you get a karma point from me for converting people to the Lizard religion. Zionist Lizard cheque is in the mail. Dont spend it all at once.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:45am |
re: #331 redc1c4
SSSHHHHH! don't say anything or they'll all try and move here.
No worries there, I would only go to visit. I like my Boreal forests too much.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:02am |
re: #328 Sprite
That's for Charles to decide, and he's stated repeatedly that he's going to continue posting on this subject.
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TheMatrix31 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:08am |
re: #331 redc1c4
SSSHHHHH! don't say anything or they'll all try and move here.
Meh, CA's way too packed anyway.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:01am |
re: #333 Sprite
I said his posts/headlines do. Period. Don't misrepresent my comments.
You're misrepresenting Charles' posts.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:13am |
re: #332 Buster Bunny
I don't see/feel your karma. But I've sent you mine.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:22am |
re: #333 Sprite
Charles never Maligns a religion Creationism is not a religion. It is Anti Science.
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:39am |
re: #331 redc1c4
SSSHHHHH! don't say anything or they'll all try and move here.
Nah - they'll all be moving here to Nevada, especially after we pass our own "stimulus package".
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:05am |
re: #328 Sprite
Ok, fine. Forget the thousands who might read the comments otherwise. Pleh.
/I send people here all the time.
Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.
John Wayne
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory." --G. Behn
For every person with a spark of genius, there are a hundred more with ignition trouble.
"The problem is, you can lead a horse to water... but short of tying
his head into the trough, lifting his tail and sucking really hard on
his arse, you can't force him to drink." Paul J. Adam
"I would like to take you seriously, but to do so would affront
your intelligence." - William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:07am |
re: #337 Sharmuta
Oh fer criminy! Read the top of this post, which is what I originally quoted. Read it as if you have no stake in the claim, no knowledge of the arguments, no 'belief' other than in the Divine.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:22am |
re: #341 gmsc
Feeling for Vegas. Gambling is supposed to be recession-proof but since 2004 gambling no longer makes up a majority of the annual revenue in Vegas.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:22:22am |
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:22:36am |
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:08am |
re: #343 Sprite
Belief in nothing but the Divine is a level of Ignorance reserved for only those people whose religions are so oppressive that knowledge outside of it would lead to lack of belief in said religion.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:31am |
re: #333 Sprite
I said his posts/headlines do. Period. Don't misrepresent my comments.
then don't misrepresent his posts and headlines.
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TheMatrix31 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:24:03am |
Screw this talk, I'm off to take a shower.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:24:12am |
Creationists make it sound as though a “theory” is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night.
I see nothing saying a belief in the Divine makes you stupid or anythjing else in that.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:24:30am |
re: #346 Sprite
{redc1c4}
I'm sure you'll forgive me for trying to create a more welcoming site.
Its not your fucking site. It is Charles's. If you want to dictate what is posted get your own blog
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:24:50am |
re: #346 Sprite
{redc1c4}
I'm sure you'll forgive me for trying to create a more welcoming site.
why should stupidity and shallow, uncritical thinking be welcome anywhere, let alone here?
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:24am |
re: #337 Sharmuta
No. I'm stating my opinion. Am I entitled to that?
/Never mind.
I believe in the Divine, which incorporated evolution into the Grand Plan.
Sleep tight, all.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:42am |
re: #346 Sprite This isn't a cuddly Care bear site it is a site that is strictly Anti-Idiotarian.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:24am |
re: #355 Sprite
Your entitled to your opinion but you want us all to be denied ours make your own Blog. Your assumption that Charles site should be set up in a way that pleases you is wrong. It is his Blog if don't like it noone is holding a gun to your head making you come.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:57am |
I didn't doubt evolution when these threads started, but I also didn't know what "theory" meant in scientific terms and ended up making an ignorant comment. So instead of feeling victimized by the scolding I was given, I visited a few sites, read a few books, and educated myself.
If an honest person finds this offensive but wants to understand, then they will study up, and they'll come to realize this isn't degrading anyone's faith but it's intended target which is young earth creationists.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:41am |
re: #360 Sprite
A special good night to you, red.
You have crawled all the way from the swampy valley of lazy stupidity
into the sunlit uplands of pure fucking ignorance....
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gmsc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:51am |
Good night, all. I have to rest up for work tomorrow!
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:30:11am |
re: #363 redc1c4
For a 5 year lizard she sure has some whacked out ides on what goes on here. She must have registered and crawled under a rock for the rest of Bush's term.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:31am |
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:32:07am |
re: #365 Sharmuta Hey Sharm maybe you can answer this question for me. On starwars how do they get all that Blue milk when Female smurfs are so rare? Or is that why Female smurfs are so rare they are all hooked to milking machines?
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:33am |
re: #366 Rustler
For a 5 year lizard she sure has some whacked out ides on what goes on here. She must have registered and crawled under a rock for the rest of Bush's term.
who knows............. what a whack j*b. there's definitely a few bites missing from that sandwich.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:01am |
re: #371 Rustler
Hey Sharm maybe you can answer this question for me. On starwars how do they get all that Blue milk when Female smurfs are so rare? Or is that why Female smurfs are so rare they are all hooked to milking machines?
No- it's not from Smurfs, but there is a common ancestor. ;)
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:16am |
re: #371 Rustler
Hey Sharm maybe you can answer this question for me. On starwars how do they get all that Blue milk when Female smurfs are so rare? Or is that why Female smurfs are so rare they are all hooked to milking machines?
do you have any last words?
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:15am |
alrighty, i'm gonna follow logboy's fine example and hit the rack.............
hasta y'all...................
L8r!
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:10am |
re: #375 Sharmuta
Error on page just get background no smurf pic.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:48am |
re: #376 redc1c4
alrighty, i'm gonna follow logboy's fine example and hit the rack.............
hasta y'all...................
L8r!
Later red.
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:06am |
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:14am |
Night red. And remember sometimes in a battle of wits, it's no fun when your opponent is unarmed.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:46am |
re: #349 Sprite
Hmmmm... I just don't see that.
When Asimov says "Creationists", given we know that Asimov lived in the 20th century and did most of his writing in the 50's and 60's, we know the cultural references to which he is referring.
Anyone who comes to LGF and reads that quote, who doesn't know who Asimov was might be confused, but since Asimov was such a famous writer I'd bet most people coming here know exactly to what Asimov was referring.
So yes, there is some cultural context assumed... both of who was Asimov, and also the history of the topic at LGF.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:53am |
to red and rustler:
Wow! If you were in front of me, trust me you would not be so venomous. Or maybe you would? /that is not a good thing.
Again. My point is the impact the words in the above post have on thousands who might visit here.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:31am |
re: #385 freetoken
Thank you, Free. That was the most literate comment in response to mine on this thread. You're right.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:44am |
re: #386 Sprite
Has it occurred to you that perhaps Charles is trying to make an impact?
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:16am |
re: #386 Sprite
Actually looking at the quote one more time. I do believe it's bang on. Since Asimov was a scientist he should know what he was talking about. And having to deal with creationists, I agree most strongly. The stuff they call science isn't even close to what it really is.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:38am |
re: #383 BlueCanuck
Night red. And remember sometimes in a battle of wits, it's no fun when your opponent is unarmed.
bullshit: it's always fun.
remember: kill something every day, no matter how small, so as to retain tactical proficiency.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:27am |
re: #390 redc1c4
ROFLMAO, reminds me of the wall of empties I used to help contribute too in my not so distant past.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:20am |
re: #386 Sprite
If I was in front of you and you kept implying that I was denegrating religions because I support the theory of evolution I would probably be far more venemous in my replies to you miss snip. I moderate my tone and language in large part out of respect for Charles.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:43am |
re: #390 redc1c4
That looks like my barracks room on Saturday and Sunday mornings. I wonder who brought the cat.
| 396 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:20am |
re: #394 Rustler
It's pretty insulting to our host to repeat over and over he's denigrating religion when he's not.
| 397 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:08am |
re: #396 Sharmuta
That it is. Be safe all BBIAB security checks and such.
| 398 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:52:07am |
re: #392 redc1c4
Hey red shooting field mice at 100 yards is amazing target practice. Sometimes small targets make for increase challenge and fun.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:41am |
re: #391 BlueCanuck
Thanks for your return to civility. I respect your comment and Agree. The basis for my original comment had to do with the vernacular of 'creationism' as it is know in the big, wide world (and how the post would appear to anyone clicking on this site). The definitions as explored here are not widely known.
I was not aware of 'young earth creationism' until reading about it here (and particularly in the comments). I am certain I'm not alone.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:25am |
re: #386 Sprite
to red and rustler:
Wow! If you were in front of me, trust me you would not be so venomous. Or maybe you would? /that is not a good thing.
Again. My point is the impact the words in the above post have on thousands who might visit here.
true dat: faced with your deliberate, wilful ignorance in person, and free from the "Wrath of Stinky", i could more accurately describe your short comings, prescribe potential paths for your personal improvement and clearly state what i thought of the watered down treacle that you spew in lieu of reasoned discourse. as for whether or not that would be a good thing depends on if you took on the spot correction as an opportunity for self development, or went whining back to your therapist so that your inner child could heal.
either way, my concern for could be most accurately measured in nanoshits.
besides, the only point you truly possess and can occasionally grasp is centered just above, and between, your ears.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:43am |
re: #398 Rustler
Hey red shooting field mice at 100 yards is amazing target practice. Sometimes small targets make for increase challenge and fun.
i've been sniping rats in the back yard with an air rifle.....
they're wiley little shits.
| 403 |
redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:44am |
re: #394 Rustler
If I was in front of you and you kept implying that I was denegrating religions because I support the theory of evolution I would probably be far more venemous in my replies to you miss snip. I moderate my tone and language in large part out of respect for Charles.
and fear of Stinky....... %-)
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:58am |
re: #394 Rustler
Did you not read the several posts where I stated I believe in evolution? Apparently not.
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:59:01am |
re: #401 Sprite
Oh. How sweet.
i belong to Harmony Church, and that is one of the tenets of our beliefs.
are you mocking my religion?
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:51am |
re: #406 redc1c4
I guess you get your red rocks off however you can. /Sad.
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TheMatrix31 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:52am |
re: #406 redc1c4
i belong to Harmony Church, and that is one of the tenets of our beliefs.
are you mocking my religion?
Do they preach the "disavowal of middleclass-ness" like Barack's former church!?
| 410 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:01am |
Morning all. From Richard Fernandez at Belmont Club:
There is the quaint notion that practicality or sheer necessity will eventually wake a dreamy ideologue and bring him to his senses. Mark Steyn writes:
“Berkeley’s public library will face a showdown with the city’s Peace and Justice Commission tonight over whether a service contract for the book check-out system violates the city’s nuclear-free ordinance.” ... In the entire history of civilization, has any human society so ordered its affairs that it would seem entirely normal to combine those words in that order in a single sentence?
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:26am |
re: #404 Sprite
Did you not read any of my Posts stating Creationism isn't a fucking religion. Show me one religious tome for this mythological creationist religion that is denigrated by countering the Disco institute.
For everyone else I'm back
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:47am |
re: #408 Sprite
I guess you get your red rocks off however you can. /Sad.
the only sad creature here is you.
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.
The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic
feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much
worse.
The person who has nothing for which he is willing to
fight, nothing which is more important than his own
personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no
chance of being free unless made and kept so by the
exertions of better men than himself.
John Stuart Mill
"making mock of uniforms that guard you in your sleep,
is cheaper then those uniforms, and they're starvation cheap."
Kipling
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:06:07am |
re: #409 TheMatrix31
Do they preach the "disavowal of middleclass-ness" like Barack's former church!?
nope: just a disavowal of willful stupidity.
/i do not suffer fools, gladly or otherwise.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:07:14am |
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:07:55am |
re: #414 BlueCanuck
Man your thinking is as twisted as cork screw.
/either that or I need more sleep.
naw..... you're right in one: she'd more fucked up than a football bat.
| 416 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:08:56am |
re: #404 Sprite
This is the Discovery Institute. This is the Home of Creationist Central. Why don't you take a look at some of the BS they spout before you start talking about how Creationism is a religion. I understand every religion has its own creation myths but Creationism itself isn't a religion. Creationism once again is the Antiscience,or Unscience whichever term you perfer.
| 417 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:10:18am |
re: #416 Rustler
Owww oww oww my click finger is burning for linking that.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:10:24am |
Good Morning LGF.
Got a shitload of climate change yesterday - judging from the top of the BBQ it looks like at least a fresh foot of the white stuff.
| 419 |
redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:11:10am |
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by
smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who
really mean it.
Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful,
is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that.
I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the
basic building block of the universe.
Frank Zappa
| 420 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:11:19am |
Sprite, from a quick scan upthread, is your original point that th Asimov quote might offend someone?
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redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:12:10am |
re: #418 Spare O'Lake
Good Morning LGF.
Got a shitload of climate change yesterday - judging from the top of the BBQ it looks like at least a fresh foot of the white stuff.
it's gonna be shorts, tshirts and drinking beer barefoot weather here.....
/white smoke
| 422 |
redc1c4 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:12:43am |
re: #420 Jim in Virginia
Sprite, from a quick scan upthread, is your original point that th Asimov quote might offend someone?
starting with her, yes.
| 423 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:11am |
re: #399 Sprite
Once again your own definition of Creationism doesn't make it the world wide definition. And even if we were using the term in a different way than others you still don't run up to a boat captain and complain because you don't know what the head is.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:14:30am |
re: #420 Jim in Virginia
It Offends her because she thinks a hit on Creationism is a hit on every religion which has creation myths.
| 425 |
CharlieBravo Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:15:42am |
The theory of change: [Link: wiki.answers.com...]
Luckily: "There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so" - Shakespeare
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:19:16am |
re: #422 redc1c4
You know, red, I gonna give you an expletive deleted and leave it at that.
| 430 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:19:54am |
re: #424 Rustler
Do NOT speak for me, for you cannot. Any more than I would for you!
| 431 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:20:34am |
re: #426 Sprite
My point was simple: this post suggests the blog owner denigrates believers. If one visits here daily, the same refrain surfaces.
LOL! There are so many believers of one stripe or another that are regulars here who wouldn't be here if we felt Charles denigrated belief.
Morning lizards!
| 432 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:20:49am |
re: #420 Jim in Virginia
Me thinks some ones skin is parchment thin.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:21:41am |
re: #430 Sprite
I gave him my opinion based on all the Harping you were doing upthread. You also attempted speaking for our host saying he is Just denigrating believers.
| 435 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:21:58am |
re: #426 Sprite
That quote is pretty much my experience with blind believers. A number of whom are my relatives.
| 437 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:23:32am |
re: #433 Sprite
Did you not see upthread where the Definition was posted for you. Not the LFG definition but the official one.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:24:28am |
re: #437 Rustler
I responded to Sharm's def and agreed with number three. Did you not see?
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:05am |
At a broad level, a Creationist is someone who believes in a god who is absolute creator of heaven and earth, out of nothing, by an act of free will. Such a deity is generally thought to be constantly involved (‘immanent’) in the creation, ready to intervene as necessary, and without whose constant concern the creation would cease or disappear. Christians, Jews, and Muslims are all Creationists in this sense. Generally they are known as ‘theists,’ distinguishing them from ‘deists,’ that is people who believe that there is a designer who might or might not have created the material on which he (or she or it) is working and who does not interfere once the designing act is finishing. The focus of this discussion is on a narrower sense of Creationism, the sense that one usually finds in popular writings (especially in America today). Here, Creationism means the taking of the Bible, particularly the early chapters of Genesis, as literally true guides to the history of the universe and to the history of life, including us humans, down here on earth (Numbers 1992)
From [Link: plato.stanford.edu...] The bolded part is what is Refered to in our Creationist threads.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:27:44am |
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Render Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:33am |
They're scared of us out there.
Before I start - The US Naval Institute blog is a very good learning experiment - both for the US Navy and for the Bloggers. In as much as my recommendation counts for anything - I do highly recommend it for anybody that has questions for, or a need to learn about, the US Navy.
[Link: blog.usni.org...]
(ht: Galrahn - whom I also highly recommend for the same subjects - and a good read.)
[Link: informationdissemination.blogspot.com...]
With the disclaimers out of the way...
===
[Link: blog.usni.org...]
FOD Detector Says:
VADM Harvey gets it.
Sadly, USNI doesn’t. This is why their plan to ‘embrace the blogosphere’ is doomed to failure. Instead of becoming a professional forum, it has elected to largely leverage off a group whose primary focus is neither professional nor necessarily in the best interests of the Navy but political. It’s Little Green Footballs with more acronyms.
=
[Link: blog.usni.org...]
Defense Springboard Says:
Geez, FOD….Little green footballs? You’re making this left-leaner feel all queasy…
=
[Link: blog.usni.org...]
Render Says:
Hello there.
I’m from that dreaded Little Green Footballs crowd.
I’d like to think that the collective LGF “we” with our fairly large in-house military population, (both active and retired - but not me, I’m just a civvie with a lot of books), can share our opinions here.
I’ve only dropped a couple of comments here and there on this blog because, like my commenting on Information Dissemination, my primary reason for being here is to learn.
I don’t come here for the politics that FOD keeps attempting to interject. I’ve got LGF and my own little bloglet for that.
I’d like to keep it that way.
THANK
YOU,
R
===
I've kept my chainsaws holstered over there - so far. But it's been...difficult.
TO SAY
THE LEAST,
R
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:50am |
re: #441 goddessoftheclassroom
Good morning, goddess. Thank G-d you're here.
| 445 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:29:09am |
re: #438 Sprite
Southern baptists from Selma, Alabama. Overall nice people, but with some severe blind spots.
| 446 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:29:16am |
Creationism in this more restricted sense entails a number of beliefs. These include a short time since the beginning of everything — ‘Young Earth Creationists’ think that Archbishop Ussher's sixteenth-century calculation of about 6000 years is a good estimate); that there are six days of creation — there is debate on the meaning of ‘day’ in this context, with some insisting on a literal twenty-four hours, and others more flexible); that there was a miraculous creation of all life including Homo sapiens — with scope for debate about whether Adam and Eve came together or if Eve came afterwards to keep Adam company; that there was a world-wide flood some time after the initial creation, through which only a limited number of humans and animals survived; and other events such as the Tower of Babel and the turning of Lot's wife into a pillar of salt. Creationists (in this narrow sense) have variously been known as Fundamentalists or biblical literalists, and sometimes — especially when they are pushing the scientific grounds for their beliefs — as Scientific Creationists. Today's Creationists are often marked by enthusiasm for something that is known as Intelligent Design. Because the relationship between Creationism in the sense of literalism and Intelligent Design is somewhat complex, examination of this relationship will be left until later and, until stated otherwise, the following discussion focusses on literalists.
From the same Article since I've found that most who argue in your way tend to find the clicking of links to much work.
| 447 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:29:30am |
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summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:29:50am |
Morning Lizards-
I am heartened that not one Republican voted for the porkulus plan. Was listening to Rush yesterday speak to Gingrey of Georgia and Gingrey felt there possibly would be a few "moderate" Republicans who would vote yes. He said there were working on convincing them to vote nay so the Republicans would be on record as all having voted no. Looks like they did just that. Good.
No the Dems can hold it all by themselves.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:30:21am |
re: #434 Rustler
Do do NOT speak for me. I repeat. /How dare you!
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:32:46am |
re: #449 Sprite
Then you stop speaking for Charles and the rest of us lizards by saying we approve of the denigration of religion.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:33:34am |
re: #449 Sprite
And we can keep up this circular arguement until your little head explodes if thats where you want to go.
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jim in virginia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:33:53am |
Sprite, when I was fifteen we moved to a new city and visited several churches. The Monday night after we'd been to the First Baptists the minister and one of the deacons came to visit. Thye were offended that Dad didn't turn off Monday night football while they visited. Dad was surprisingly cordial to someone who had not been invited to drop by.
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wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:34:00am |
morning goddess.......
re: #448 summergurl
I am heartened that not one Republican voted for the porkulus plan.
For all the good it did. I am so disgusted with Arlen Specter selling out on Eric Holder I could spit.
| 455 |
goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:34:09am |
{Sprite}
(Erik The Red}
{summergurl }
(Rustler)
(Render)
{FamHistoryGuy}
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FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:35:11am |
re: #450 Sprite
And not overly open to others viewpoints and experiences from what I get of your posts.
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goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:35:19am |
re: #454 wahabicorridor
morning goddess.......
For all the good it did. I am so disgusted with Arlen Specter selling out on Eric Holder I could spit.
I've been offended by him since he weaseled the "not proven" during the Clinton impeachment.
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goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:35:53am |
{BlueCanuck}
{Kim in Virginia}
{wahabicorridor }
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:36:19am |
re: #451 Rustler
I didn't say anything about you until you so outrageously purported to speak for ME!
I stated my opinion. Period. YOu don't agree? Fine! Note I don't agree with you either! /But at least I never attempted to speak on your behalf or belittle you in the process.
| 462 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:36:35am |
Creationists are strongly opposed to to a world brought on by evolution, particularly to a world as described by Charles Darwin in his Origin of Species. Creationists (certainly traditional Creationists) oppose the fact of evolution, namely that all organisms living and dead are the end products of a natural process of development from a few forms, perhaps ultimately from inorganic materials ("common descent"). Creationists also oppose claims about the total adequacy of the Darwinian theory of evolution, namely that population pressures lead to a struggle for existence; that organisms differ in random ways brought on by errors in the material of heredity (‘mutations’ in the ‘genes’); that the struggle and variation leads to a natural form of selection, with some surviving and reproducing and others failing; and that the end consequence of all of this is evolution, in the direction of well-adapted organisms.
Is this helping you to figure out what the generally accepted definition in the Scientific community is for Creationist.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:37:09am |
re: #452 Rustler
Expletive deleted. Come to my house and look me in the eye.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:37:25am |
re: #455 goddessoftheclassroom {goddess} how's my favorite Teacher doing.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:38:48am |
re: #461 Sprite You spoke for the entire Community saying we are denigrating Believers.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:39:11am |
re: #463 Sprite
Expletive deleted. Come to my house and look me in the eye.
Don't go away angry, just go away.
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goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:39:16am |
re: #464 Rustler
{goddess} how's my favorite Teacher doing.
I'm fine, thanks! Super busy three days ahead to catch up on rehearsals for the musicals, but it will be good.
| 469 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:39:18am |
Help me put Lizards is Expletive deleted a new swear word?
| 470 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:39:21am |
re: #405 Sprite
I think you should seriously write an apologetic email to Charles.
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:39:26am |
re: #450 Sprite Which means what exactly?
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:39:36am |
re: #463 Sprite
I would but I can't get myself low enough to be on eye level with you.
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golly_wog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:40:00am |
Gah!
Is this the lemon-lime variety, or the flitting-through-the-woods type?
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Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:40:09am |
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:40:21am |
re: #466 Rustler
NO I DID NOT. Again. YOu misrepresent my and my comments. Kindly STOP.
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:40:23am |
re: #454 wahabicorridor
morning goddess.......
For all the good it did. I am so disgusted with Arlen Specter selling out on Eric Holder I could spit.
You didn't expect that?
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:40:44am |
re: #474 golly_wog
Lemon-lime flitting thru the woods type from the way it's posting.
| 479 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:40:54am |
re: #471 Jim in Virginia
It's one of those waffle terms I have found. Believe in everything, but not tied to anything.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:40:56am |
re: #473 FamHistoryGuy
No, you don't even know that. You just arrived. I've been here for years.
| 481 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:41:35am |
re: #476 Sprite
Once again I'm merely doing to you what you do to the host of this blog and also to all of us who routinely post on such threads.
| 482 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:43:21am |
re: #480 Sprite
He can still see plenty about you from your posts on this thread. Newsflash for you your teachers were wrong you are not a victim of the System you are a victim of yourself.
| 483 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:43:35am |
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FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:44:27am |
re: #480 Sprite
I have been registered for three years and lurked for at least two years before that. Not many posts. By time I get to a thread most everything has been said.
| 486 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:44:32am |
| 487 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:44:36am |
re: #471 Jim in Virginia
Spiritualism is a belief that the spirits of the deceased can be communicated with.
| 488 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:44:52am |
U.N. Announces 613 Million Dollar Appeal for Gaza
The uN's first of many Terrorism Stimulus Packages for 09' - I wonder how much Obummer's contributing?
Mornin folks.
| 489 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:45:27am |
re: #477 Jim in Virginia
You didn't expect that?
Nope. His staff told me he was gunning for the guy.
I've seen him pull a 180 before - and it's always been because he got something in return. I'd like to know what it was this time.
| 490 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:45:30am |
re: #483 Sprite
I am not a Mysoginist I believe women are ever bit as great as men way to prove your ignorance once again.
| 491 |
goddessoftheclassroom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:47:51am |
| 492 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:48:12am |
heh. John Bolton on Fox talking about Obama's muslim 'unmentionable' side and interview on Arab TV
| 494 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:48:19am |
re: #194 logboy
Do you think the earth is 6000 years old?
Well, its been here as long as I have. So its at least 30 years old, maybe even more.
A guide at a natural history museum gestured to some rocks in a geology exhibit and intoned to a bored group of fifth-graders: "By measuring the radioactivity in rocks like these, scientists have been able to determine that the Earth is 4 billion, 500 million, eight years and six months old."
"Wow," exclaimed the teacher in surprise. "4,500,000,008 years and six months? How do you know the Earth's age that exactly?"
"Well, my very first week working here at the museum, they told me the Earth was 4.5 billion years old," explained the guard, "and that was eight and a half years ago come next Tuesday."
| 495 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:49:13am |
re: #493 FamHistoryGuy
//It's obiously because I am oppressing her and feel she is beneath me. So therefor must believe all women are beneath me.
| 497 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:49:28am |
re: #489 wahabicorridor
Nope. His staff told me he was gunning for the guy.
I've seen him pull a 180 before - and it's always been because he got something in return. I'd like to know what it was this time.
I would too. That guy gives me the creeps.
| 499 |
Render Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:49:56am |
And still the convoys roll into Gaza loaded and out again empty.
EVERY
DAY,
R
| 501 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:50:34am |
re: #496 Sprite
You got a pummeling for inferring that we as a group hate believers.
| 502 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:51:06am |
re: #492 wahabicorridor
heh. John Bolton on Fox talking about Obama's muslim 'unmentionable' side and interview on Arab TV
He may have a Muslim background through his father - but what Muslim would marry Michelle? And how he treats his girls? No - he is not a Muslim if that is what Bolton is inferring...
| 503 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:51:42am |
re: #500 Sprite
Theism
Most Spiritualists believe in a monotheistic, omnibenevolent God, akin to Christianity. The Spiritualists' National Union's first principle is "the fatherhood of God".
[edit] Mediumship and Spirits
Spiritualists believe in communicating with the spirits of discarnate humans. They believe that spirit mediums are humans gifted to do this. They believe that spirits are capable of growth and perfection, progressing through higher spheres or planes. The afterlife is not a static place, but one in which spirits evolve. The two beliefs—that contact with spirits is possible, and that spirits may lie on a higher plane—lead to a third belief, that spirits can provide knowledge about moral and ethical issues, as well as about God and the afterlife. Thus many members speak of spirit guides—specific spirits, often contacted, relied upon for worldly and spiritual guidance.
So apparently I know more of your religion than you do.
| 504 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:51:44am |
re: #485 FamHistoryGuy
True for me as well. /With a few more years added in on both counts.
| 505 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:52:23am |
re: #502 summergurl
I demand recognition for the Michelle portion of your post Summer : P
| 506 |
Tamron Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:52:51am |
Let's take a vote:
Who here has a high tolerance for whiney, petty bickering that leads nowhere, with someone whose karma is lower than whale poop?
C'mon, be truthful now.
.
| 507 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:53:20am |
re: #489 wahabicorridor
Promise of more stimulus money.
He's a whore.
| 509 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:53:33am |
re: #505 Rustler
I demand recognition for the Michelle portion of your post Summer : P
What kind of recognition do you want Rustler?
And btw, I don't feel any hate directed my way --- just sayin'
| 510 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:53:35am |
re: #496 Sprite
I was trying to give you some friendly advice. That you would make an assumption like that about your host is extremely rude coming from one complaining about manners.
| 511 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:53:42am |
re: #470 Sharmuta
I think you should seriously write an apologetic email to Charles.
Err, you might want to rephrase that...
| 512 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:54:29am |
| 513 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:55:02am |
re: #506 Tamron
Think Satt, Sharm, and Sala also either enjoy it or are Sadists cause we tend to do it for hours almost every ID thread.
| 514 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:55:10am |
re: #506 Tamron
Let's take a vote:
Who here has a high tolerance for whiney, petty bickering that leads nowhere, with someone whose karma is lower than whale poop?
C'mon, be truthful now.
.
Sprites karma was fine until she lost a nut on this thread. She should have left long ago but for some reason, only she knows, she keeps pushing.
| 515 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:55:28am |
re: #511 Throbert McGee
Um- it doesn't seem to matter. Sprite is insistent upon displaying rude manners.
| 516 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:55:46am |
re: #509 summergurl
I used that Arguement the other day on hte Obama is a Muslim thread :P.
| 517 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:56:06am |
re: #504 Sprite
I think that you need to take some remedial math.
FamHistoryGuy
Karma: 211
Registered since: Dec 17, 2006 at 10:11 pm
No. of comments posted: 644
No. of links posted: 0
versus
Sprite
Karma: -43
Registered since: Oct 9, 2005 at 3:05 pm
No. of comments posted: 1,155
No. of links posted: 109
/tale of the tape.
| 518 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:56:32am |
| 520 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:56:44am |
re: #501 Rustler
Again. YOu are saying things about me I've never said. How stupid can you be? Anyone can read the thread and see you're lying. /How sadly mysoginistic of you.
| 521 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:57:25am |
re: #506 Tamron
What can I say? I was bored this morning.
| 522 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:57:27am |
re: #502 summergurl
He may have a Muslim background through his father - but what Muslim would marry Michelle? And how he treats his girls? No - he is not a Muslim if that is what Bolton is inferring...
Sorry, I should have been clearer. The intro set the subject: In the interview with Arab TV he mentioned his Muslim ties - a subject that was 'taboo' during the campaign. They showed a John Stewart comedy clip to set it up.
| 523 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:57:35am |
re: #520 Sprite
You are the only one of the Opinion that I hate women.
| 524 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:58:27am |
| 525 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:58:32am |
re: #504 Sprite
And still the only way I have to know you is through your posts. The same with you of me. You seem to find the quote offensive and think that others will also. Perhaps those that feel offended need to examine why the person quoted feels that way. Perhaps because of his personal experiences with "Creationists"?
| 526 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:58:49am |
re: #510 Sharmuta
I'm giving you my opinion. I read here 4 hours at a minimum every day.
| 527 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:59:03am |
re: #518 Jim in Virginia
Be careful out there Jim. It's still icy.
| 528 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:59:17am |
re: #516 Rustler
I used that Arguement the other day on hte Obama is a Muslim thread :P.
I think I could go back and find it on my prior comments too ;-)
Well it IS valid. The other thing is he wants a dog.
| 529 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:59:55am |
re: #526 Sprite
I'm giving you my opinion. I read here 4 hours at a minimum every day.
But not enough to know what is meant by "creationist".
| 530 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:00:39am |
re: #520 Sprite
Also I said you inferred that we are Anti Belief. Inference-Inference is the act or process of deriving a conclusion based solely on what one knows. See by stating Charles is anti Belief based on thread topic, I was able to Infer(come to the conclusion) that those of use who agreed and posted our agreement would also therefor be anti-belief.
| 533 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:01:01am |
re: #487 Rustler
Spiritualism is a belief that the spirits of the deceased can be communicated with.
I thought it was the belief that whiskey confers a miraculous ability to speak in tongues...
| 534 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:01:33am |
re: #524 Erik The Red
Comeon I hate some women but they have earned the derision and scorn I direct at them.
| 535 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:01:54am |
re: #522 wahabicorridor
Sorry, I should have been clearer. The intro set the subject: In the interview with Arab TV he mentioned his Muslim ties - a subject that was 'taboo' during the campaign. They showed a John Stewart comedy clip to set it up.
Oh ---- I get it now. I normally have FOX on but lately I can only take so much before flipping out. Start yelling at the TV etc... So I try to have a couple of cups of coffee and come here and be surrounded by rational folks (most anyways) and then subject myself to the stream of crap called news.
| 536 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:02:17am |
re: #529 Sharmuta
Sharm,
I told you what I thought thousands would think who come here who do *not* know what the def is as defined in the comments here.
I did Not say I was one of them. Please be precise.
| 537 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:02:39am |
re: #515 Sharmuta
Um- it doesn't seem to matter. Sprite is insistent upon displaying rude manners.
I was making a lame joke about religious "apologia" -- as in, that's probably the last thing Charles wants in an email!
| 538 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:03:28am |
re: #531 FamHistoryGuy
You betcha. And that only means I work to help develop this site daily. With many updings, I might add.
Doesn't matter any more than karma points.
| 539 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:03:44am |
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] Haha I guess in 1.5 months I've racked up a bigger post count than Sprite so she jealous of me and my leet post fu skills.
| 540 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:03:59am |
re: #532 Sprite
Me thinks thine reading comprehension is lacking. It wasn't the karma I was pointing out. More the registration dates.
| 543 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:05:50am |
re: #535 summergurl
I have pretty much quit watching TV. 500 channels of nothing. And it had such promise.
| 544 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:06:03am |
re: #536 Sprite
I don't know how much more precise I can be then to tell you, again, that Charles is going to continue to post on this subject. Opinions such as yours have been voiced, and he's continued to post on it anyways.
I do not believe "thousands" of people are going to come here and not look deeper into the issue. You underestimate their intelligence.
| 545 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:06:17am |
re: #538 Sprite
Many updings but far more down dings than up based on neg 47 karma.
| 546 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:06:57am |
re: #541 goddessoftheclassroom
By goddess be safe out there.
| 547 |
Tamron Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:06:58am |
re: #520 Sprite
Again. YOu are saying things about me I've never said. How stupid can you be? Anyone can read the thread and see you're lying. /How sadly mysoginistic of you.
Geez. Sounds just like a mother-in-law I once had, or maybe what I imagine Hillary would talk like, to Slick Willy. Y'all have a lot more patience than me, I'm afraid.
.
| 548 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:07:18am |
re: #545 Rustler
Well Sprite did start the thread in positive territory. Not much positive mind you, but still ...
| 549 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:07:48am |
| 550 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:07:49am |
re: #537 Throbert McGee
Sprite has already been banned and reinstated once over Nirther comments. I was merely trying to give her a chance to save her account.
| 551 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:10:04am |
| 552 |
Render Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:10:12am |
Since we're taping the tale...
===
Karma: 4,009
Registered since: Aug 7, 2005 at 1:52 pm
(Logged in)
No. of comments posted: 6,331
===
I've worked hard for those ding-ups and left more then a few troll skins hanging in the drying shed over the last four and a half years.
PASSAGE,
R
| 553 |
Tamron Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:10:59am |
re: #531 FamHistoryGuy
Ups my comment count.
Heh. I never thought of 'dry-firing' just for practice. Good one.
.
| 555 |
Tamron Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:12:49am |
re: #535 summergurl
Oh ---- I get it now. I normally have FOX on but lately I can only take so much before flipping out. Start yelling at the TV etc... So I try to have a couple of cups of coffee and come here and be surrounded by rational folks (most anyways) and then subject myself to the stream of crap called news.
Now THAT'S what I call a sensible, well-balanced lady!
.
| 556 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:13:13am |
re: #544 Sharmuta
Oh 'wise one', of course he will! It's his blog, which I adore and send people to too often to count.
My suggestion will be listened to or not. I'm only one of, what, 17,000 lizards?
| 557 |
Render Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:13:18am |
re: #537 Throbert McGee
I got it. How lame could it be? Glad you're still around.
===
I'm out of cigarettes...
Something needs to die.
RRRRR,
R
| 558 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:13:27am |
Ok, everybody, channel Gomer Pyle's voice for a sec.....
SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE!
A top House Republican is demanding an investigation into whether the more than $2 billion for national parks in the House stimulus package is proper in light of the fact that the chief lobbyist for the National Parks Conservation Association is the son of House Appropriations Committee Chairman David R. Obey.
NPCA is a major player in advocating for national parks funding, and its senior vice president for government affairs is Craig Obey, son of the Wisconsin Democrat who has long been his party's top Appropriations Committee member.
The money included in the stimulus bill that passed Mr. Obey's committee - $2.25 billion - was about equal to the National Park Service's total yearly budget, and would be a staggering increase and almost three times the $802 million that the Senate Appropriations Committee approved for park spending in its stimulus bill.
| 560 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:14:16am |
Yesterday Boeing announced another 5500 job cuts. That brings us almost to 100,000 this week. But Obama will decrease the jobless.
| 562 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:14:58am |
re: #553 Tamron
Lost a hammer spur on a 44 once doing that. Did buy it used and the crack was not obvious. Did reduce my exposure to lawyers.
| 563 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:15:23am |
re: #555 Tamron
Thank you - I am now on my second cup and my head is clearing.
Glanced at Drudge, saw Pelosi smirking and had to look away.
| 564 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:15:39am |
re: #556 Sprite
Over 30,000 registered nics. Your suggestion will join similar suggestions, and you may even meet the same fate as others who have tried to lodge their complaints. Perhaps Stinky will have mercy, perhaps not.
| 566 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:16:53am |
re: #518 Jim in Virginia
I believe it was the Red Queen who said, "When I use a word it means exactly what I want it to mean."
That's Humpty Dumpty, actually.
But incidentally, it was the White Queen who provided us with one of the juiciest quotes to use in debates with Genesis literalists. When Alice observes that there's no use in forcing oneself to believe the impossible, the White Queen retorts that Alice just needs more practice, and boasts, "Why, sometimes I've believed in as many as six impossible things before breakfast!"
| 567 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:17:01am |
re: #548 BlueCanuck
And the only reason I'm in 'negative' territory, is because of rude people who purport to speak for me, misrepresent my comments and take great pleasure (apparently) in bullying.
G'night folks. My originally stated opinion stands.
| 568 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:17:35am |
re: #560 Rustler
Yesterday Boeing announced another 5500 job cuts. That brings us almost to 100,000 this week. But Obama will decrease the jobless.
//Yes he can.
They can all paint the Washington monument ---or maybe polish a statue or two - or hand out flyers for ACORN. Nothing like a stimulus pack that really gives it to the people.
| 569 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:18:01am |
re: #564 Sharmuta
Oh Great One. I bow down to you and your power?
| 570 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:18:57am |
re: #567 Sprite
And the only reason I'm in 'negative' territory, is because of rude people who purport to speak for me, misrepresent my comments and take great pleasure (apparently) in bullying.
G'night folks. My originally stated opinion stands.
Well if you had not dragged this on and on---
G'night Sprite...
(reminds me of a little yippy dog)
| 571 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:19:11am |
re: #559 Sprite
I am not a liar.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
| 572 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:19:54am |
Good morning.
The market futures are pointed up, and the Nikkei and Hang Seng gained overnight.
I don't think this is due the "stimulus plan" so much as the "bad bank" plan being considered which is seen as giving some stability to the financial system.
| 573 |
Tamron Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:20:16am |
re: #562 FamHistoryGuy
Lost a hammer spur on a 44 once doing that. Did buy it used and the crack was not obvious. Did reduce my exposure to lawyers.
--Why? Was a lawyer standing next to it when the spur went flying?
.
| 574 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:21:01am |
re: #571 Sharmuta
One who questions is not a nirther. Again, O One of Great LGF Power, you need to rethink your definitions.
| 575 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:21:06am |
re: #569 Sprite
You whine about the manners of others yet have none yourself. I have no power here, I've just watched what has happened to others who have insulted Charles repeatedly on this matter.
| 576 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:21:23am |
re: #571 Sharmuta
Ass: Fact checked and delivered.
And from the tone of said poster I am surprised it managed to keep it's karma in positive territory for so long.
| 577 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:21:34am |
re: #574 Sprite
You need to go to bed like you've said you were going to hours ago.
| 578 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:21:42am |
| 579 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:21:55am |
re: #559 Sprite
Nirther= Obama birth Certificate conspiracy theorist in case the terminology was beyond you.
| 580 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:22:05am |
re: #577 Sharmuta
Perhaps You should, instead of telling me what to do?
| 581 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:22:11am |
re: #574 Sprite
Quit moving the bloody goal posts. It's unbecoming.
| 582 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:22:11am |
re: #572 3 wood
Morning 3 --
I concur. The bad bank plan seems to have created a positive uptick in the market. The thought though of moving all of our bad debt into a "bad bank" is troubling. Seems too easy of a way out. Make a bad loan? Move it to the bad bank....
What are your thoughts on this?
| 583 |
Tamron Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:22:16am |
re: #563 summergurl
Thank you - I am now on my second cup and my head is clearing.
Glanced at Drudge, saw Pelosi smirking and had to look away.
I caught some news in passing, a couple of days ago on the radio, that said something about $300 million being authorized for condoms... Was that just someone joking, or what's the skinny on that?
.
| 584 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:22:43am |
re: #576 BlueCanuck
There's more where that came from. You can search her comments from November to December to see them.
| 585 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:23:18am |
re: #579 Rustler
Yep. Read the thread, Egghead. Go all the way to the end where I give information about the best evidence rule. Legal questions are legal questions.
| 586 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:23:19am |
re: #571 Sharmuta
Sharmuta? You're looking especially pretty today. Your hair shines like gold in the morning sun. Your skin is the color of an azure sky. Your hands move like music above the keyboard. Your [finger]s type words that could only be spoken by an immortal.
How are ya!
| 587 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:23:40am |
re: #580 Sprite
Perhaps You should, instead of telling me what to do?
Go to bed, or carry on. But I'm not the one who has said for hours I was leaving but stayed.
| 588 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:23:40am |
re: #578 Sprite
Who dragged this on, anyway?
Hello, summer......pleased to meet you?
Sprite - can you please be quiet and go to bed?
The grown-ups are talking.
| 589 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:23:49am |
re: #584 Sharmuta
I will take your word for it. I think I just about had enough from this evening. I did read the links that you did put up though.
| 590 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:24:00am |
re: #576 BlueCanuck
Yes, oh most holiest of posters........ hahahahah
| 591 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:24:24am |
re: #567 Sprite
And the only reason I'm in 'negative' territory, is because of rude people who purport to speak for me, misrepresent my comments and take great pleasure (apparently) in bullying.
G'night folks. My originally stated opinion stands.
You forgot to add also "my asinine comments".
| 592 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:24:24am |
re: #584 Sharmuta
Please do. Read all of them. And my nic is blue.
| 593 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:24:55am |
re: #583 Tamron
I caught some news in passing, a couple of days ago on the radio, that said something about $300 million being authorized for condoms... Was that just someone joking, or what's the skinny on that?
.
I believe that was in the pkg in some form but the media scrutiny made the Dems remove it from the final package.
| 594 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:25:33am |
re: #590 Sprite
Never said I was. But I do know when to keep my mouth shut and move on to other pastures.
| 596 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:26:40am |
re: #594 BlueCanuck
Never said I was. But I do know when to keep my mouth shut and move on to other pastures.
Oh yeah, what's that saying? "It's best to be thought a fool, then opening ones mouth and removing all doubt."
| 597 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:26:47am |
re: #573 Tamron
Nope. They tend to ask if you already had the hammer cocked (single action style) or if you used it double action when you encountered their client. Single action conveys intent or reckless disreguard. Especially if you have a light trigger pull single action style.
| 598 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:27:44am |
re: #575 Sharmuta
I have no manners? Cite one example! I have defended myself against those who were most unmannerly toward me. Who are you to judge, Oh Most Holy of High LGFer's? I've seen many of you who purport to judge be..........eliminated.
| 600 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:28:19am |
Obama celebrates spending binge with cocktails and wagyu steak
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]
And I wasn't invited?
| 601 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:28:32am |
re: #578 Sprite You were more than able to shut up about it. Calling us bullies for defending ourselves from your ascertations isn't being truthful.
| 602 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:28:53am |
re: #583 Tamron
Revocation of ban on contributions to birth control aid to foreign countries.
| 603 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:28:53am |
re: #588 summergurl
I'm sure I'm your elder, just from your posts.
| 604 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:29:01am |
Darwin not likely to get props from Whitehall
Creationists don't like Charles.
| 605 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:29:28am |
re: #583 Tamron
Bailout to help the Profilactic industry stand up again.
| 607 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:30:26am |
re: #603 Sprite
Sometimes it isn't physical age that means one is grown up. Now go play in the traffic.
| 608 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:31:23am |
re: #599 Sprite
Then please do and stop insulting me.
You've done nothing but insult Charles all night/morning. Now you're getting snide with me for trying to help. I will try one last time- stop posting tonight and email an apology to Charles.
| 609 |
Tamron Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:32:24am |
re: #586 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sharmuta? You're looking especially pretty today. Your hair shines like gold in the morning sun. Your skin is the color of an azure sky. Your hands move like music above the keyboard. Your [finger]s type words that could only be spoken by an immortal. How are ya!
LOL You slick-tongued bastard, you.
.
| 610 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:34:11am |
re: #585 Sprite
I question anything proffered by factcheck.org, government officials who claim the existence of a record but not what it contains, details offered by Obama himself regarding his Indonesian stint and a host of other matters of legal interest regarding eligibility. Now let's add in all the relevant documents he has Not provided.Are you an attorney, Sharmuta? Are you familiar with the 'best evidence rule'? Are you familiar with the fact that different states have varying requirements regarding the contents of COLBs, BCs, and how they may vary?
This one talking about the Governor of Hawaii coming out saying the Birth cert was there official and every thing checked out but he couldn't be believed because his explaination matched fact checks?
| 611 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:34:11am |
I would search to see what people are fighting about. But I don't want to. The stairs are steep, and the light is dim, and I think I see some guy with a trench coat on one of the landings. So, I will just try to change the subject.
Whoowee, Texas' death row express lane has been busy this year, huh?
| 612 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:34:52am |
re: #582 summergurl
I concur. The bad bank plan seems to have created a positive uptick in the market. The thought though of moving all of our bad debt into a "bad bank" is troubling. Seems too easy of a way out. Make a bad loan? Move it to the bad bank....What are your thoughts on this?
Well, many of these bad loans were made to be compliant with the Community Reinvestment Act. Let to their own judgement many of these banks would have stayed away from that stuff. So I see a lot of government culpability in dealing with this. That and this (in my view silly) insistence on keeping a "mark to market" valuation model just about guarantees bankruptcy for any bank who complied with the CRA. The Fed's also over did it when they jacked up the discount rate for 17 straight quarters. They overcooked the market. Now they got to clean up their mess.
The banking system has become a quasi-utility, we have to have it healthy to have a growing economy. We just can't have banks going broke over and over again and have any confidence in the system. I do think there need to be some prosecutions too, like that clown Thain from Merrill Lynch.
There is no real good solution to this. We have a series of very flawed options to pick among. The Resolution Trust approach worked reasonable well in the 80's, I've always thought that we would end up doing that again.
But part of this is the CRA has to be repealed, too. Otherwise, we will have this happen again.
| 613 |
Tamron Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:34:55am |
re: #593 summergurl
I believe that was in the pkg in some form but the media scrutiny made the Dems remove it from the final package.
Someone's brother-in-law owns a rubber factory?
.
| 614 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:35:57am |
re: #586 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Your skin is the color of an azure sky.
"Your eyes are like... like... two ping-pong balls floating in a sea of algae."
--Miss Piggy, to Kermit
| 616 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:37:23am |
re: #611 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
We have a backlog that we need to reduce.
| 617 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:37:23am |
re: #613 Tamron Most of the money was actually going to go to Planned Parenthood.
| 618 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:37:27am |
'US drafts conciliatory letter to Iran'
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
I just am not sure if I should cry or laugh? But either way, I'm gonna start digging that bomb shelter in my back yard.
| 619 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:38:41am |
re: #614 Throbert McGee
"Your eyes are like... like... two ping-pong balls floating in a sea of algae."
--Miss Piggy, to Kermit
"Your eyes are like to limpid pools; of cream of tomato soup."
--Mrs FBV, this morning, to me.
| 620 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:38:52am |
We rejoice that the coffers of Planned Parenthood and their ilk will be denied $200 million in public money for what amounted to a shameful population control program that targeted low-income families," said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman. "Pelosi's plan, claiming that having children was bad for the economy, was nonsense that deserved a strong public rebuke."
from the above article.
| 622 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:40:06am |
re: #616 FamHistoryGuy
We have a backlog that we need to reduce.
Just leave that blind guy alone, okay. He's nuts.
| 623 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:40:50am |
All the birth control you'll ever need coutesy of Speaker Pelosi.
| 624 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:41:05am |
re: #608 Sharmuta
Oh please. I can state my opinion here without your 'guidance'. (!) {Who the heck are you, anyway? You think you're my superior somehow? If so.....for you to think about.}
YOu are not the judge of my opinions. YOu have no more validity than I do. My original comment was stated to help Charles. How? By suggesting he not (repeatedly) give the impression to the world at large that he is denigrating people of faith. /I think he may believe in G-d, but that's his peragative.
Period.
For all of you who have so gleefully piled on to do - what? - tonight, I'm sad for you.
My prayers for you.
| 625 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:41:54am |
re: #618 Nevergiveup
Make sure you have good WMD procedures and equipment. Decontamination showers and good filters should figure into the design.
| 626 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:42:18am |
re: #623 Rustler
See, Russ? You set that one up to obviously. Now I know not to click the link. You can't "Nancy/Helen/Hillary/etc Roll" me any more. Not that easy.
| 628 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:42:53am |
re: #624 Sprite
And we replied numerous times civilly at first that that was not the impression most got it is one which you have come up on all on your own and now because you thought of it, the idea must exsist in everyone's mind now.
| 629 |
Tamron Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:43:15am |
re: #619 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"Your eyes are like to limpid pools; of cream of tomato soup."
--Mrs FBV, this morning, to me.
"Your eyes look like two piss-holes in the snow." Mrs. Tamron, last Saturday night, to me.
.
| 630 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:43:28am |
re: #624 Sprite
By that logic, who are you to think Charles needs your guidance?
| 631 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:43:44am |
Today will be another red letter day for that traveling freak show known as Illinois politics.
Gov Blago is reported to be planning on making an appearance at his impeachment trial to make a "closing argument" in his favor.
It's supposed to take place about 11:00 am today. Should make for some great entertainment. It will be one of the few times the guy has actually been in the State Capital during his entire time in office. He might need to get directions to the floor.
Some are theorizing that he will resign. I doubt it, cause then he can't sue, which is what I'm sure this is all about on his end, to sue for damages and get a settlement.
Yesterday they were documenting in very clear detail how the Gov was openly ignoring Federal law and State law in purchasing practices, and then openly conspiring on how to try to get around the rules.
I hope Blago has a ride back to chicago after his appearance today cause very shortly after he stops talking, he will no longer be Governor and thus will not be able to use the State jet to ride back to Chicago. Maybe he can thumb a ride.
| 632 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:44:03am |
re: #626 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wasn't a Nancy roll was just to Illustrate the Government doens't need 200-300 mill to decrease the number of children born. : P
| 634 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:45:22am |
re: #631 3 wood
I heard a few of his interviews. Was kind of funny to hear him say, (paraphrasing) "well, if I could hear the tapes; I'd know what they're accusing me of. They appear to have things taken out of context.
| 635 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:45:42am |
re: #613 Tamron
Someone's brother-in-law owns a rubber factory?
.
♫♪
"My grandma sells cheap prophylactics;
She punctures the head with a pin.
'Cause grandpa gets rich from abortions --
My god, how the money rolls in!
My father makes book on the corner;
My mother makes second-rate gin;
My sister makes love for a dollar;
My god, how the money rolls in!
My brother's a poor missionary --
He saves fallen women from sin.
He'll save you a blonde for ten dollars;
My god, how the money rolls in!"
♫♪
to the tune of "My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean" -- and it's more fun to sing if you imagine a tinkly player-piano accompanying you...
| 636 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:46:17am |
re: #625 FamHistoryGuy
Make sure you have good WMD procedures and equipment. Decontamination showers and good filters should figure into the design.
Think I can get bail-out money for my bunker?
| 637 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:46:35am |
By the way, if Blago gets criminally charged, word I'm getting is watch for him to dump all over Obama's parade.
| 639 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:47:50am |
re: #637 3 wood
By the way, if Blago gets criminally charged, word I'm getting is watch for him to dump all over Obama's parade.
Finally something to look forward to?
| 640 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:48:02am |
re: #637 3 wood
We would be shocked. Shocked I tells ya!
| 641 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:48:20am |
re: #637 3 wood Criminal Charges are only to follow if the Impeachment succeeds right? And will his rolling on Obama hurt Obama or will the "Good Soldier" Rahmbo be able to jump on that grenade and save President Waffles.
| 642 |
Render Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:48:30am |
Jesus fuckinH Christ - Pray for me already - but STFU.
SERIOUSLY,
R
| 644 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:49:57am |
re: #641 Rustler
Criminal Charges are only to follow if the Impeachment succeeds right? And will his rolling on Obama hurt Obama or will the "Good Soldier" Rahmbo be able to jump on that grenade and save President Waffles.
I don't think what the prosecutor does has any relation to the impeachment proceedings
| 645 |
golly_wog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:50:03am |
Our Overlord, who art in cyberspace
Hallowed be thy flame.
Thy downding come, thy ban stick flung
On Nirth as it is on Nodrog.
Give us this day our daily thread
And forgive us our spins
As we forgive those who spin upon us.
For thine is the website
And the powerblog, and the rational
Forever and ever
GAZE!
| 646 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:50:05am |
re: #624 Sprite
Feel Free to pray for me don't complain when the good lord smites you down for it tho. I mean I'm just a mean evil Mysogonist, idiot, Egghead.
| 648 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:51:08am |
re: #644 Nevergiveup
No no relation but I think they will be using the Impeachments success as grounds that there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
| 649 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:51:34am |
re: #645 golly_wog
OMG! That was brilliant- can I use that in the future? With credit, of course.
| 650 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:52:17am |
re: #649 Sharmuta
Rofl Sharm has a new Gaze post for trolls on ID threads?
| 653 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:53:08am |
re: #636 Nevergiveup
Nope. That is already on its way go Gaza.
| 654 |
freetoken Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:53:13am |
re: #624 Sprite
My original comment was stated to help Charles. How? By suggesting he not (repeatedly) give the impression to the world at large that he is denigrating people of faith.
For some reason... I doubt Charles really cares what the "world" thinks of his posted quotes.
| 656 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:53:56am |
re: #648 Rustler
No no relation but I think they will be using the Impeachments success as grounds that there is proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Not really. the level of proof needed to impeach is rather low. basically they just have to hate the guy
| 657 |
Tamron Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:54:22am |
Check this out. I recommend saving the PDF file for reference.
Evidently one can cook the data any way you want to, as long as you're scientific about it:
GLOBAL WARMING TEMPERATURE-SENSOR SCAM
"When NASA and NOAA global warming cheerleaders like Hanson, Mann and others start cooking the data and tossing out manufactured graphs and studies as real science and incontrovertible proof of manmade global warming, it opens the door for skeptics to start drilling into the conclusions, the methodology and the actual data gathering itself.
The skeptics have demonstrated that Mann’s Hockey Stick graph “proving” the existence of manmade global warming is an artifact of the methodology. They proved it by inputting a randomly created set of data points into his algorithm and coming up with the same shaped graph. Hansen’s handiwork at NASA Goddard was uncovered by Canadian scientists that proved they used September temperature data in their October temperature dataset last year when they announced that 2008 was the one of the hottest years in recent history.
Now it appears that they have been playing games for a number of years with the placement of the thousands of temperature sensing sites worldwide. The temperature sensors have been sited in urban areas, in the urban heat island rather than in a representative cross section of countryside. The cities are always hotter than the surrounding countryside because concrete and asphalt absorb heat. If this is where you are gathering your data and not correcting it before you feed it into your algorithms, you will end up with an intentional and artificial increase in global temperatures." --Alex Gimarc Newsletter
| 659 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:55:20am |
re: #656 Nevergiveup Throught they had to show misuse of power and such?
| 660 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:55:21am |
re: #645 golly_wog
Our Overlord, who art in cyberspace
Hallowed be thy flame.
Thy downding come, thy ban stick flung
On Nirth as it is on Nodrog.
Give us this day our daily thread
And forgive us our spins
As we forgive those who spin upon us.
For thine is the website
And the powerblog, and the rational
Forever and ever
GAZE!
It's the new LGF prayer, it is.
| 661 |
golly_wog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:55:32am |
re: #649 Sharmuta
OMG! That was brilliant- can I use that in the future? With credit, of course.
Certainly.
| 662 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:55:46am |
re: #627 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
With pleasure. Always. /and I like your posts as well.
| 663 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:56:31am |
| 666 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:57:22am |
Baycity, MI powercompany has now removed all limit switches since the death of a 93 year old man. New info in the case indicates the employee who installed the device never informed the custumer about it's installation or purpose.
| 667 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:59:22am |
re: #666 Rustler
See what post you got? Proof that you're evil, Rustler. ;)
| 668 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:00:03am |
re: #637 3 wood
By the way, if Blago gets criminally charged, word I'm getting is watch for him to dump all over Obama's parade.
That is what I am expecting. Watched him on Glenn Beck - man is he arrogant - I get the feeling he thinks he has an ace up his sleeve or an "if I go down, they go down" mentality.
Time to pop the corn....
| 669 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:01:56am |
re: #667 Sharmuta Exactly : p /// clubs Sharmuta down and feeds her to kitty to prove his Mysoginy.
| 670 |
abaleh Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:04:43am |
| 671 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:04:55am |
re: #659 Rustler
Throught they had to show misuse of power and such?
I think they are suppose to, but it's basically a popularity contest
| 672 |
Crux Australis Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:07:06am |
I have stayed out of this thread for my own sanity. Don't want to tread on anyones toes.
Good night/morning.
| 673 |
TheHistorian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:07:47am |
Isaac Asimov has attained room temperature. My question is: "Does God believe in Isaac Asimov"? That is the only question worth asking.
As for creation, remember that "Big Bang" was a deriding term given by people like Asimov about a crackpot theory that turned out to be right.
Asimov wrote fine science fiction and wrote good biochemistry. But he obviously had flaws.
| 674 |
FamHistoryGuy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:08:13am |
Time to quit for the day. Nap is wearing off. Y'all have a good day.
| 675 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:09:25am |
USPS wants to lower mail deliverary to 5 days a week due to lower volume of mail.
In testimony before a Senate subcommittee Wednesday, Postmaster General John “Jack” Potter said the post office may be forced to cut back to five-day delivery for the first time in the agency’s history, citing rising costs and an ongoing decline in mail made worse by the global recession. The potential move, which would have to be approved by Congress and postal officials, could mean the elimination of mail on either Saturdays or Tuesdays, the system’s slowest days, postal officials said.
| 677 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:10:23am |
re: #670 abaleh
Thanks for the reminder. Man can be evil, but he tends to be a little less evil when others are watching.
| 678 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:11:29am |
re: #675 Rustler
Don't think Saturday mail is necessary. Really don't think Tuesday mail is all that important either. 4 days a week is plenty.
| 679 |
Crux Australis Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:12:50am |
re: #676 Rustler
Morning Crux.
I tend to avoid arguments about creationism/evolution so I stayed in lurk mode for most of this thread.
I am not a young earth creationist btw,
| 680 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:12:57am |
| 681 |
Lively Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:13:30am |
I clicked on an Orlando Sentinel link last night and there was so much corruption in one city. Fire Chief, UCF Dean, School teacher/little boy and then there's Gulf Port, MS mayor who committed fraud. Corruption is on the increase more than STDs and the federal government is handing out handfuls of cash to these people.
| 682 |
summergurl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:14:23am |
Off to work out --
Y'all Lizards have a fine day ---
(need some peace and quiet)
| 683 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:16:27am |
re: #673 TheHistorian
Isaac Asimov has attained room temperature.
Asimov trivia: Without Googling, who knows the cause of Asimov's death?
| 685 |
songbird Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:17:30am |
re: #679 Crux Australis
I tend to avoid arguments about creationism/evolution so I stayed in lurk mode for most of this thread.
I am not a young earth creationist btw,
I tend to lurk on this kind of thread as well. There's hot blood on both sides.
I'm an open minded creationist and still marvel at the incredible order of nature (creation).
| 686 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:17:37am |
re: #673 TheHistorian I was under the Impression Asimov believed in the Big bang, but was merely skeptical of the explanation given during his time?
| 688 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:20:18am |
re: #683 Throbert McGee
Asimov trivia: Without Googling, who knows the cause of Asimov's death?
He didn't have Robot Insurance?
| 689 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:20:36am |
re: #685 songbird
I'm an open minded creationist and still marvel at the incredible order of nature (creation).
What do you mean by that? Not trying to start anything- I just don't know what that means and I'm curious.
| 690 |
apachegunner Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:21:29am |
re: #686 Rustler
I was under the Impression Asimov believed in the Big bang, but was merely skeptical of the explanation given during his time?
I believe the big bang was the back side of a black hole in another universe.
| 691 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:21:51am |
re: #683 Throbert McGee
Wow I actually didn't know the real cause. Was gonna post one decided to fact check and glad I didn't hit post comment.
| 692 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:22:44am |
re: #690 apachegunner
I believe the big bang was the back side of a black hole in another universe.
Morning apache.
| 693 |
elrushbuni Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:23:01am |
Senate Bill 2433....It's Already Started
IT'S ALREADY STARTED FOLKS...BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON!
[Link: www.opencongress.org...] SENATE BILL S. 2433 According to David Bossie, President of the group 'Citizens United for American Sovereignty based out of Merrifield, Virginia , website:[Link: www.citizensunited.org...] The above mentioned Senate Bill (S. 2433) is a piece of legislation in the works that all Americans need to know about...and know now!
This Bill, sponsored by none other than our "President elect" Sen.
Barrack Obama, with the backing of Joe Biden on the Foreign Relations Committee, and liberal democrats in Congress, is nothing short of a massive giveaway of American wealth around the world, and a betrayal of the public trust, because, if passed, this bill would give over many aspects of our sovereignty to the United Nations.
The noble sounding name of this bill, "The Global Poverty Act" is actually a Global Tax, payable to the United Nations, that will be required of all American taxpayers. If passed in the Senate, the House has already passed it, this bill would require the U.S. to increase our foreign aid by $65 BILLION per year, or $845 BILLION over the next 13 years! That's on top of the billions of dollars in foreign aid that we already pay out! In addition to the economic burdens this potential law would place on our precarious economy, the bill, if passed in the Senate, would also endanger our constitutionally protected rights and freedoms by obligating us to meet certain United Nations mandates. According to Senator Obama, we should establish these United Nations' goals as benchmarks for U. S. spending. What are they?
The creation of a U.N. International Criminal Court having power to try and convict American citizens and soldiers without any protection from the U.S. Constitution.
A standing United Nations Army forcing U.S. soldiers to serve under U.N. command. A Gun Ban on all small arms and light weapons...which would repeal our Second Amendment right to bear arms.
The ratification of the "Kyoto" global warming treaty and numerous other anti-American measures.
Recently, the Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations (where Sen.
Joe Biden sits) approved this plan by a voice vote without any discussion! Why all the secrecy? If Senators Obama and Biden are so proud of this legislation, then why don't they bring it out into the light of day and let the American people have a look at it instead of hiding it behind closed doors and sneaking it through Congress for late night votes? It may be only a matter of time before this dangerous legislation reaches a floor vote in the full body of the Senate.
Please write or call, email your representatives, the White House, the media, or anyone you think will listen, and express your opinions regarding this Global Tax giveaway and betrayal of the&nb sp; American people at a time when our nation and our people are already heavily burdened with the threats of our freedom and economic prosperity.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:26:30am |
re: #693 elrushbuni
Said it before and I'll say it again Fuck the UN with Slick Willy's Willy.
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Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:28:20am |
Btw Asimov Died of Heart and renal failure due to complications from Aids. He got Aids from a transfussion in 1983. I only knew abouthte kidney failure but it's not surprising as his doctors warned the family about the stigma of Aids.
| 699 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:28:22am |
4:55 EU`s Solana says increasingly hopeful of lasting Gaza cease-fire (AP)
I have no idea why?
15:05 Turkey urges Obama to redefine Mideast terrorism (AP)
Yup, lets just redefine it, declare victory, and go home.
| 702 |
songbird Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:30:25am |
re: #689 Sharmuta
What do you mean by that? Not trying to start anything- I just don't know what that means and I'm curious.
Well, I was not there for creation. I have looked at the fossil evidence. Studied some university level geology and helped to lead a geology group. Some of the evidence points to evolution, some points to rapid development of rock layers, especially if plant material like tree trunks, span millenia of rock layers.
I observe nature, and some points toward evolution and some species, like the weaver bird, need to get it right the first time.
I'm not a scientist, I'm a musician. I'm a Christian, so I believe that G_d had something to do with the formation of our home planet and the universe, but even before I was a Christian I had a sense that the incredible order and beauty of nature pointed to things beyond what I could see with my own eyes.
I hope this helps. I've been downdinged severely just because I made a comment about looking a both sides - probably by some who thought I was a young earth wacky loony Fred Phelps type creationist troll.....come on!
| 704 |
looking closely Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:31:06am |
From the "you don't say" news category:
Palestinian attacks and Israeli airstrikes threaten Gaza truce
How about this one:
"Palestinian rocket attacks threaten "peace process". . .
| 705 |
Taqyia2Me Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:31:12am |
re: #693 elrushbuni
Done, just sent it to my entire email list....
Thanks, elsrushbuni.
| 706 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:31:25am |
re: #699 Nevergiveup
4:55 EU`s Solana says increasingly hopeful of lasting Gaza cease-fire (AP)I have no idea why?
The reason behind that is probably that the EU will be returning Israel to the Palestinians and give the Israeli's a nice Barren rock with no resources or water in return.
15:05 Turkey urges Obama to redefine Mideast terrorism (AP)Yup, lets just redefine it, declare victory, and go home.
New Definition will be anything done by Israel is Terrorism andything done by Muslims is self defense or retaliations for being Opressed.
| 708 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:32:48am |
Pope Voices Support for Jews, Rejects Holocaust Denial
This morning, Benedict made his first public comments on the controversy, telling pilgrims in his weekly audience in Vatican City that he feels "full and indisputable" solidarity with Jews and repudiating the idea of denying the Holocaust.
According to an Associated Press account of his remarks, Benedict said the memory of the Holocaust should "prompt humanity to reflect on the unpredictable power of evil when it conquers the hearts of men."
| 709 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:33:08am |
Alluding to Turkey's unique position, Erdogan prefaced his message to Obama, saying that "compared to the Western countries, we speak best the language of the Middle East."
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Sounds like defeatist gobbledygook to me?
| 710 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:33:45am |
re: #641 Rustler
3 wood Criminal Charges are only to follow if the Impeachment succeeds right? And will his rolling on Obama hurt Obama or will the "Good Soldier" Rahmbo be able to jump on that grenade and save President Waffles.
Actually the impeachment and the criminal charges are 2 different things. They are impeaching him for other stuff. The prosecutor asked that they not touch on his case so that Blago could not then use that to call prosecution witnesses in and interrogate them to get jump on the details they have for the criminal case.
What Blago has on Obama , I don't know, but apparently he is threatening behind the scenes to take Obama down of the criminal case does not get called off.
| 711 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:33:46am |
| 712 |
looking closely Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:33:50am |
re: #683 Throbert McGee
Asimov trivia: Without Googling, who knows the cause of Asimov's death?
Cardiopulmonary insufficiency.
| 714 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:35:28am |
re: #702 songbird
Thanks for sharing. If I may- there have been a number of books recommended at LGF that I really enjoyed and learned a lot from. Before these threads, I admit I didn't know a lot about evolution, but the books were great and have helped me to marvel at God's creation that much more.
| 715 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:38:03am |
re: #656 Nevergiveup
Not really. the level of proof needed to impeach is rather low. basically they just have to hate the guy
Pretty much. They just need enough votes to do it.
Funny thing is, nothing really has changed in the facts of his behavior, other than he now is an anchor around Obama's neck. They could have impeached him for the same stuff they are using as a basis for their case 6 months ago. Back then the Democrats did not care.
But now that he is making the Messiah look bad, he's go to go.
Blago will be toast by dinner time and Lt. Gov Pat Quinn will be sworn in.
| 716 |
Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:38:38am |
The actual and only issue I have with 'evolution' is my personal arrogance. I do not want to have come from an animal.
| 717 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:38:58am |
| 718 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:40:31am |
Climate Change is real !
Yesterday it snowed
Today it didn't
| 719 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:40:51am |
re: #713 taxfreekiller
Okay, I am not laughing at you. I'm laughing approximately 1,500 miles from you.
| 720 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:40:58am |
re: #716 Oh no...Sand People!
The actual and only issue I have with 'evolution' is my personal arrogance. I do not want to have come from an animal.
Hate to break it to you but you......///
| 721 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:41:15am |
re: #668 summergurl
That is what I am expecting. Watched him on Glenn Beck - man is he arrogant - I get the feeling he thinks he has an ace up his sleeve or an "if I go down, they go down" mentality.
Time to pop the corn....
Most people don't know this but he started out as a small time bookie and leg breaker for the mob. He's the same guy now that he was then.
| 722 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:41:52am |
My Sweet O
I really want to see you O
Really want to be with you
Really want to see you O
But it takes so long, my O
My sweet O
Hm, my O
Hm, my O
I really want to know you O
Really want to go with you
Really want to show you O
That it wont take long, my O (allah akhbar)
I really want to know you (allah akhbar)
Really want to go with you (allah akhbar)
Really want to show you O (aaah)
That it wont take long, my O (allah akhbar)
Hm, my O (allah akhbar)
My, my, my O (allah akhbar)
Oh hm, my sweet O (allah akhbar)
Oh-uuh-uh (allah akhbar)
Now, I really want to see you (allah akhbar)
Really want to be with you (allah akhbar)
Really want to see you O (aaah)
But it takes so long, my O (allah akhbar)
*spit*
| 723 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:41:55am |
re: #713 taxfreekiller
OK, can see the barn now through the "ice fog", 28F, ice, ice, ice,
ice on the power lines, ice on the roads, ice on the roof, iced on the hay bales, ice on the pipe fences, ice on the windshield, ice now in the f'n sky.Great, sun is up, now you can see the ice in the sky better.
America start your engines, tfk is freezing to death.
Help.......
Would it help you if I told you the weather I have here?
| 724 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:42:23am |
re: #715 3 wood
Although there seems to be evidence that this guy is at least unbalanced. Your so right, nothing really has changed in that last few years. It stinks to high heaven. But that's Democratic Politics in general and I guess Chicago Politics in specific.
| 725 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:42:50am |
re: #723 Erik The Red
Would it help you if I told you the weather I have here?
I am sure it would help him greatly. In detail, please.
| 726 |
golly_wog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:43:16am |
re: #702 songbird
some points to rapid development of rock layers, especially if plant material like tree trunks, span millenia of rock layers.
Upright fossil tree trunks are usually the product of ash flows from volcanoes. What appears to be sucessive layers wrought over long periods of time are actually short term events of various colors and composition from different types of eruptions, not long period diastems. This is something misrepresented by creationists. I'm not accusing, just clarifying.
| 727 |
songbird Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:44:01am |
re: #714 Sharmuta
Thanks for sharing. If I may- there have been a number of books recommended at LGF that I really enjoyed and learned a lot from. Before these threads, I admit I didn't know a lot about evolution, but the books were great and have helped me to marvel at God's creation that much more.
I think about a quote by Robert Louis Stevenson:
"The world is so full of wonderful things
that we should all be as happy as kings!"
I may have paraphrased that a little bit.
And not that has anything to do with the Creation/Evolution debate!
A question for those interested:
Does a person's faith in G_d mar their intelligence and ability to reason and to make important contributions in this world? What about brilliant people who pray at their ancestor's shrines, but who invent things we use every day? Or someone who believes in reincarnation? Or great thinkers who go to church and pray to a saint?
| 728 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:44:55am |
| 729 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:45:48am |
re: #684 apachegunner
STD?
Well, sort of -- although he didn't actually catch it via "S."
(Asimov died in 1992 of an HIV infection that he had acquired from tainted blood during a 1983 surgery. By the time of his death, HIV-infection from blood transfusions was no longer a major threat to public health because screening tests had greatly improved in the years since he'd been infected. So ultimately he and his family decided to keep quiet about his cause of illness rather than needlessly re-awaken anxiety over the safety of the blood supply; I think his widow finally disclosed the full truth in the late '90s.)
| 730 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:46:10am |
re: #725 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am sure it would help him greatly. In detail, please.
LOL. And be on the end of a tfc tirade. I am crazy not stupid.
| 731 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:46:34am |
re: #729 Throbert McGee
Well, sort of -- although he didn't actually catch it via "S."
(Asimov died in 1992 of an HIV infection that he had acquired from tainted blood during a 1983 surgery. By the time of his death, HIV-infection from blood transfusions was no longer a major threat to public health because screening tests had greatly improved in the years since he'd been infected. So ultimately he and his family decided to keep quiet about his cause of illness rather than needlessly re-awaken anxiety over the safety of the blood supply; I think his widow finally disclosed the full truth in the late '90s.)
surgically transmitted disease
| 732 |
Irish Rose Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:46:50am |
Good morning lizards!
I haven't had a lot of time to read or converse over the last few days... how the heck are ya?
What did I miss?
Any bannings or buttock roasts?
Lots of creationist threads, I see... I'm confident that all participating parties have been civil and respectful.
| 733 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:47:27am |
Spanish court to probe Israeli officials for alleged 'crimes against humanity'
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]
And the EU wants to know why they have NO influence in Israel at all. All these EURO WEENIES can go fuck themselves. I hope I've been clear how I feel.
| 734 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:48:04am |
re: #727 songbird
A question for those interested:
Does a person's faith in G_d mar their intelligence and ability to reason and to make important contributions in this world? What about brilliant people who pray at their ancestor's shrines, but who invent things we use every day? Or someone who believes in reincarnation? Or great thinkers who go to church and pray to a saint?
In my opinion- absolutely not.
| 735 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:48:22am |
| 736 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:48:54am |
re: #732 Irish Rose
Good morning lizards!
I haven't had a lot of time to read or converse over the last few days... how the heck are ya?
What did I miss?
Any bannings or buttock roasts?
Lots of creationist threads, I see... I'm confident that all participating parties have been civil and respectful.
Start at #161 on this thread for roast buttocks.
| 737 |
Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:49:27am |
re: #720 Erik The Red
Hate to break it to you but you......///
I still got 'hope'...
/I hate the word 'hope' now.
| 739 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:50:54am |
re: #724 Nevergiveup
Although there seems to be evidence that this guy is at least unbalanced. Your so right, nothing really has changed in that last few years. It stinks to high heaven. But that's Democratic Politics in general and I guess Chicago Politics in specific.
The Chicago Machine allows nothing to get in it's way in it's quest for total power. Blago has now become a problem, so he will be gotten rid of.
When Mayor Daley came out and said publicly that he thought Blago should go, what he was doing was giving his orders as the current head of the Machine that Blago had to go. So then it was open season, not that I'm defending the schmuck.
Bear in mind that a lot of the White House now is from that same Chicago Machine.
Again, folks unfamiliar with the Machine are going to be a bit shocked by what we have just put into the White House.
| 740 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:51:20am |
| 742 |
Irish Rose Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:53:46am |
re: #736 Sharmuta
Start at #161 on this thread for roast buttocks.
Mmm, great with the morning coffee.
| 744 |
Digital Display Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:54:12am |
re: #740 Erik The Red
WTF? And are those two?
I read your home depot joke earlier in the Thread..That was great!
Good Morning Lizards! How is everyone this fine day?
| 745 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:55:03am |
re: #736 Sharmuta
Start at #161 on this thread for roast buttocks.
sprite is boring.
I like a troll with a little fire in their belly
I could only take 100 or so comments before getting drowsy
| 747 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:55:27am |
re: #743 apachegunner
hey Eric, hot down there?
No rain the last 2 days solid. No let up. I feeling like a fucking duck. Low 70's. I NEED SUN.
| 748 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:55:55am |
re: #744 HoosierHoops
I read your home depot joke earlier in the Thread..That was great!
Good Morning Lizards! How is everyone this fine day?
Morning 2H.
| 750 |
golly_wog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:56:12am |
Gamey buttocks roasting by an open fire,
Bullshit nipping at your nose.
Tho' it's been said
Many times, many ways
FOA...D
Must be the rum in the coffee
| 751 |
looking closely Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:56:54am |
re: #710 3 wood
What Blago has on Obama , I don't know, but apparently he is threatening behind the scenes to take Obama down [if] the criminal case does not get called off.
An interesting proposition.
At this stage Obama has so much political capital, and Blago so little, its likely he couldn't do more than embarass Obama.
And would we want a President Biden, anyway? I'd argue he'd likely be less effective than Obama, and therefore probably less harmful.
| 752 |
Digital Display Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:56:58am |
| 753 |
Irish Rose Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:57:38am |
re: #747 Erik The Red
No rain the last 2 days solid. No let up. I feeling like a fucking duck. Low 70's. I NEED SUN.
You think you're sun deprived?
Come visit us up here in Michigan.
| 754 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:57:52am |
re: #750 golly_wog
Gamey buttocks roasting by an open fire,
Bullshit nipping at your nose.
Tho' it's been said
Many times, many ways
FOA...DMust be the rum in the coffee
What are you drinking this am? Another great one. Hearted.
| 755 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:57:57am |
| 757 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:59:21am |
re: #738 Sharmuta
Shar? Seriously, I have no idea who those people are. Are they famous? Are they Muslim? Do I care, well; I'm asking. WTF?
| 760 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:59:52am |
No surprise here, but the unemployment numbers are not good.
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - U.S. unemployment lines stretched to the longest on record, the Labor Department reported Thursday, a sign that the U.S. labor market continues to worsen.
Continuing jobless claims rose by 159,000 in the week ending Jan. 17 to a seasonally adjusted 4.78 million, the most since the government's records begin in 1967. That is the same week the government surveyed hundreds of thousands of workplaces and households to gather information for the January employment report.
Meanwhile, the number of new claims for state unemployment benefits rose by 3,000 to a seasonally adjusted 588,000 in the week ending Jan. 24, just 1,000 below the 26-year high for initial claims set a month ago.
The four-week average of new claims - which smooth out distortions caused by bad weather, strikes or the timing of holidays - rose by 24,250 to 542,500.
But I thought the Messiah was going to put everyone back to work?
The insured unemployment rate - the proportion of covered workers who are receiving benefits - was steady at 3.6%, the highest in 25 years.
In December, 524,000 nonfarm payroll jobs were lost, capping the worst year for job losses since 1945. The January payroll figures will be reported on Feb. 6, with economists currently expecting a loss of at least 500,000 for the third consecutive month.
Look for further deflation in the near term.
| 761 |
golly_wog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:00:01am |
re: #754 Erik The Red
What are you drinking this am? Another great one. Hearted.
Gosling's Black Seal rum in coffee.
| 762 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:00:38am |
re: #759 Sharmuta
Please also see #645
that was and is the only comment where I ever clicked the "red heart" icon
| 763 |
songbird Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:00:54am |
re: #757 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Shar? Seriously, I have no idea who those people are. Are they famous? Are they Muslim? Do I care, well; I'm asking. WTF?
That's what my dear Mr. Songbird would call a Failed Society. Not much is produced except violence, oppression and poverty (generally) Well, they do hire some amazing infidel architects!
| 765 |
Rustler Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:01:11am |
re: #727 songbird
Only If they allow their beliefs to interfere with actuality. Belief in a higher being is a good thing, so long as those beliefs don't close your mind to the outside or ask to to berate those who believe differently. We get a bit put out by some on ID creation threads because hearing the same arguements form via Psuedo-science often. Upon hearing these arguement Sharm's or Sal's trolldar goes off the BS meter and then heads roll.
| 766 |
Irish Rose Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:01:35am |
We're up to nearly 12 percent unemployment here in Michigan.
It's really bad up here.
| 768 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:01:55am |
re: #759 Sharmuta
Please also see #645
I propose the following Motion:
comment 645 be advertised all day to get it to the #1 comment
Can I get a second?
| 769 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:02:18am |
re: #757 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was a pic taken at the birthday party of one of the Backstreet Boys. Other than that, I can't say who they are or why exactly they are famous.
| 770 |
Render Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:02:21am |
I'm getting one of these to combat global warming.
You warmed up yet TFK?
LONG REACH
BURN TIME,
R
| 772 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:02:56am |
re: #768 Shug
I propose the following Motion:
comment 645 be advertised all day to get it to the #1 comment
Can I get a second?
Second
| 773 |
songbird Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:03:23am |
re: #767 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Whaaaaaa?
Apologies! I thought you were talking about some Muslim societies.
| 775 |
Digital Display Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:04:03am |
re: #768 Shug
I propose the following Motion:
comment 645 be advertised all day to get it to the #1 comment
Can I get a second?
and a third..
| 776 |
RexMundi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:04:09am |
"Creationists make it sound as though a “theory” is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night."
What's funny is creationists beliefs are ultimately founded on something from superstitious and barely literate men a few thousand years ago who probably dreamt up being visited by an angel after being drunk all night.
A reminder to those that seek to evade it: Palin is a Creationist. I disagree with people here that say she wouldn't force such beliefs in classrooms, because as POTUS, I can't see her creationist beliefs making her preserve scientifically sound biology in this regard. Think about this; there are acts of commission and acts of omission, but if you are inactive while others are actively achieving your agenda, you're complicit with them--an act of omission through serendipity such as that is as bad as as an act of commission. People at the Discovery Institute or Answers in Genesis could influence school boards to implement their wedge strategy, redefine science, introduce ID, etc., would Palin do anything to stop it?
Explain away her creationist stance all that you wish; I am not convinced that she is a viable candidate (for this reason as well as many others). Palin 2012 will be and should be a disaster; not because she is a woman, not because I am being misogynist; because she is unworthy of the presidency.
| 777 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:04:12am |
I think 645 has a good shot as long as Mandy refrains from saying this
" I hope all those who refused to vote for John McCain because he wasn't conservative enough are ----ing happy now."
| 778 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:05:54am |
re: #768 Shug
Would've missed that one without the shout out.
Impressive.
| 779 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:06:45am |
yeah for the house republicans! hope the senate republican will stand as strong
| 780 |
ThinkRight Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:06:59am |
Serious question
Would a 40 something year old man be a pervert for going to a Nickleback / Seether concert ?
| 782 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:08:14am |
re: #779 phoenixgirl
yeah for the house republicans! hope the senate republican will stand as strong
Your not really gonna trust McCain again!
| 783 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:09:11am |
re: #780 ThinkRight
Serious question
Would a 40 something year old man be a pervert for going to a Nickleback / Seether concert ?
The lead singer of the Violent Femmes said at a live show a while back, in response to the Milwaukee newspaper saying that the Femmes were too old
You're never too old to rock.....
and if you suck, being young ain't gonna help you
--signed
40 yr old non-pervert Shug who still likes the Violent Femmes
| 784 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:10:03am |
re: #780 ThinkRight
Serious question
Would a 40 something year old man be a pervert for going to a Nickleback / Seether concert ?
Well if he is I would have to call myself one. Great bands. And Seether is South African. Seen them not Nickleback. Lucky bastard. Enjoy.
| 785 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:10:22am |
re: #727 songbird
I think about a quote by Robert Louis Stevenson:
"The world is so full of wonderful things
that we should all be as happy as kings!"I may have paraphrased that a little bit.
And not that has anything to do with the Creation/Evolution debate!A question for those interested:
Does a person's faith in G_d mar their intelligence and ability to reason and to make important contributions in this world? What about brilliant people who pray at their ancestor's shrines, but who invent things we use every day? Or someone who believes in reincarnation? Or great thinkers who go to church and pray to a saint?
Good morning, Lizards!
I believe in creationism. But while I'm not arrogant enough to know how HE did it, I believe that our own inherent curiosity in how things works gives us a glimpse of how the mind of God works. One thing I've determined - HE has a definite sense of humor!
| 786 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:10:35am |
re: #781 Sharmuta
Jeeez, no need to shout. Dinged and hearted already. :)
Has our lameass troll finally done what it threatened and left?
/home now and up for a little while to go.
| 787 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:11:07am |
re: #782 Nevergiveup
Your not really gonna trust McCain again!
i will never trust mccain or vote for him ever again...not even one more time! but he appears at the moment to not support the dangerous ones "purple penetrator" stimulus package.
| 790 |
Crux Australis Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:12:16am |
re: #747 Erik The Red
No rain the last 2 days solid. No let up. I feeling like a fucking duck. Low 70's. I NEED SUN.
Lucky you. Just this week Adelaide and Melbourne had close to record temperatures (110F) and here in western Sydney it's been close to 100. And apart from the tropics not a drop of rain to be seen.
| 792 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:12:48am |
re: #791 phoenixgirl
Click an avatar- it says "Logged In" if that person is logged in.
| 793 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:13:45am |
re: #766 Irish Rose
We're up to nearly 12 percent unemployment here in Michigan.
It's really bad up here.
Sounds like a democrat paradise - try to vote their bum asses out!
| 794 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:14:10am |
re: #792 Sharmuta
Click an avatar- it says "Logged In" if that person is logged in.
well, that's all folks! learned my one thing for the day, going back to bed!/
thanks sharm!
| 798 |
ThinkRight Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:15:21am |
re: #784 Erik The Red
Well if he is I would have to call myself one. Great bands. And Seether is South African. Seen them not Nickleback. Lucky bastard. Enjoy.
re: #783 Shug
Thanks
Nickelback is pretty good
The only thing is the Huge teenage girl follwing they have
I was willing to dress up like a teenage girl to blend in
LOL
| 799 |
bosforus Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:15:52am |
Morning, Lizards!
You know how recent documents you've used, in let's say Microsoft Word, will show up at the bottom of the File menu when you click it? Well, does anyone know of a way to see the full file path if it's too long to be seen in the narrow File menu?
| 800 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:16:01am |
GM to end jobs bank benefit next week
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- General Motors Corp. said Wednesday that, under the terms of its recent federal bailout, this week will mark the last for its jobs bank, a program that pays laid-off union workers their full salary even when they're not on the assembly lines.
Chart of GM
The jobs bank, despite covering only 1,600 workers, has emerged as a symbol of excessive union benefits at a time when the Detroit-based automaker is drowning in losses and struggling to survive the historic industry downturn.
GM spokesman Tony Sapienza said the workers leaving the jobs bank will now be entitled to unemployment benefits and some GM pay that will bring their total compensation to about 72% of their full pay, which could last almost a year.
Going from 95% to 72% is at least some improvement, but still leaves them at a competitive disadvantage.
Watch for Obama to use this and other situations to justify nationalizing health care.
| 801 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:16:41am |
You spell it B-H-O
B-H-O Barack-O
O, O, O, Barack-O
Turkish Taffy!
| 802 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:17:34am |
re: #766 Irish Rose
We're up to nearly 12 percent unemployment here in Michigan.
It's really bad up here.
And your Governor got rewarded with a cabinet post with the Messiah, IIRCC.
| 803 |
Erik The Red Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:17:42am |
Later Lizards. Stopping at the pub and then going home.
| 804 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:18:57am |
re: #803 Erik The Red
Later Lizards. Stopping at the pub and then going home.
Nothing drives home "It's five o'clock somewhere" better than a statement like yours.
Prosit! and good evening.
| 805 |
Irish Rose Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:19:13am |
re: #776 RexMundi
What's funny is creationists beliefs are ultimately founded on something from superstitious and barely literate men a few thousand years ago who probably dreamt up being visited by an angel after being drunk all night.
Wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole.
| 807 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:20:36am |
re: #787 phoenixgirl
i will never trust mccain or vote for him ever again...not even one more time! but he appears at the moment to not support the dangerous ones "purple penetrator" stimulus package.
I didn't trust McCain in the first place. Seems he's been sticking it to us since 2000 when he lost to Bush. However, I DID vote for him in this last election. I must qualify that by saying that I really hate having to choose between the lesser or two evils!
| 809 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:22:06am |
Good morning everyone!
We survived week 1 America Held Hostage. Yahoo!
What's up?
| 810 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:22:30am |
re: #809 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good morning everyone!
We survived week 1 America Held Hostage. Yahoo!
What's up?
The price of gas and my blood pressure.
| 811 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:23:43am |
re: #810 OldLineTexan
The price of gas and my blood pressure.
But your wallet is lighter... that's gotta count for something...
| 812 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:24:13am |
re: #807 vapig
I didn't trust McCain in the first place. Seems he's been sticking it to us since 2000 when he lost to Bush. However, I DID vote for him in this last election. I must qualify that by saying that I really hate having to choose between the lesser or two evils!
i didn't trust him either, but was willing to give him my vote....then SARAH! i was so happy about that pick i actually campaigned for him! phone calls and everything! he broke my heart again......
| 813 |
justabill Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:24:20am |
re: #12 logboy
898 posts with 694 Karma. Thats a 77% approval rating. Hey! I have a higher approval rating than Obama!
Well in theory, every lizard could upding every post, so your max karma would be #posts * #lizards. As near as I can figure it your approval rate is
(694/(898 * #lizards)) * 100%
of course mines even lower...
/math
| 814 |
SteveC Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:24:47am |
re: #807 vapig
I didn't trust McCain in the first place. Seems he's been sticking it to us since 2000 when he lost to Bush. However, I DID vote for him in this last election. I must qualify that by saying that I really hate having to choose between the lesser or two evils!
But this was the first election in years in which there was no candidate that was "the lesser evil!" It's true! Brian Williams told me so!
/I'm sorry I damaged your sarcasm detector
| 815 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:24:49am |
Sprite is now taking her vengeance out on me. I'm mortally wounded.
| 816 |
Irish Rose Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:25:12am |
re: #809 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good morning everyone!
We survived week 1 America Held Hostage. Yahoo!
What's up?
Did you hear?
Barry and Michelle brought their personal chef from Chicago to the White House with them.
I feel more confident with every passing moment, that this is a President who identifies with the common man... how 'bout you?
| 817 |
golly_wog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:25:15am |
re: #805 Irish Rose
Wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole.
I will, they were very intelligent men explaning the complexity of their questioning to the more simple minded. Sorta like here.
| 818 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:26:19am |
Good morning y'all - from a cold (34 degrees going up to 51 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone this morning?
| 819 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:26:41am |
re: #816 Irish Rose
Did you hear?
Barry and Michelle brought their personal chef from Chicago to the White House with them.I feel more confident with every passing moment, that this is a President who identifies with the common man... how 'bout you?
I could care if he identifies with the common man, I just don't one that identifies with the common communist.
| 820 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:26:48am |
re: #815 Sharmuta
Time to undo some damage.
| 822 |
Karridine Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:27:28am |
Well, as the fragrant, jasmine-scented suburbs of Bangkok settle into the 2130 darkness of another Thursday night, I bid farewell to the mind-reading commenter who KNOWS what Palin would do, despite evidence to the contrary...
...and bid a fond, cheery "Gooooooood Morning, America!"
Karridine
| 823 |
steve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:27:29am |
re: #807 vapig
I didn't trust McCain in the first place. Seems he's been sticking it to us since 2000 when he lost to Bush. However, I DID vote for him in this last election. I must qualify that by saying that I really hate having to choose between the lesser or two evils!
I justified my vote by saying that I was voting for Sara. Just irritated my lib friends:-)
| 824 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:27:38am |
re: #820 BlueCanuck
Thanks, Sweets. I got you & red's back.
| 825 |
Irish Rose Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:27:45am |
Don't you have something more important to do with your time, Sprite?
The dusting and vacuuming, perhaps?
/ding-down ding-a-ling
| 826 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:27:47am |
re: #815 Sharmuta
Hi Sharm! Hope you're doing well today! Uh, who is sprite, why and how is she taking out her vengeance on you?!
| 827 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:27:48am |
re: #818 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a cold (34 degrees going up to 51 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone this morning?
Morning Real!
15 degrees here, schools closed yesterday due to the snow.
But otherwise doing well.
| 828 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:27:55am |
Hmmm, it appears that loathsome beast is really on a rampage.
| 829 |
SteveC Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:27:57am |
re: #818 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a cold (34 degrees going up to 51 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone this morning?
Real! What's going on up there?!?! The Panthers are all jumping ship! :(
| 830 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:28:09am |
re: #800 3 wood
GM to end jobs bank benefit next week
Going from 95% to 72% is at least some improvement, but still leaves them at a competitive disadvantage.Watch for Obama to use this and other situations to justify nationalizing health care.
Once we lose the healthcare debacle we become not just socialists, we become communists. As the governments has discovered they have a veto power in in private companies they have given our money to, so they will have a veto power in denying us medical coverage determined by our personal behaviors.
As socialism removes economic freedoms, so communism removes personal freedoms.
| 831 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:28:14am |
re: #810 OldLineTexan
The price of gas and my blood pressure.
And their popping the champagne corks in Moscow.
| 832 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:28:32am |
re: #826 realwest
She insulted Charles all night. Now she's dinging people down who called her on it.
| 833 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:28:45am |
re: #823 steve
I justified my vote by saying that I was voting for Sara. Just irritated my lib friends:-)
You still got some of those?
| 835 |
lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:30:28am |
Greets and saluts from the icy NYC metro area. I see that the usual suspects are busy. Turkish leader Erdogan wants to set a new definition for terrorism:
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, whose country has played a key role in trying to mediate among Israel and Syria and the Palestinians, said Obama's new Mideast envoy, George Mitchell, will be in Turkey for talks Sunday."President Obama must redefine terror and terrorist organizations in the Middle East, and based on this new definition, a new American policy must be deployed in the Middle East," Erdogan told the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
Anyone want to take odds on what that means - namely that Israel defending itself is terrorism; US attacking al Qaeda is terrorism; and jihadis engaging in mass casualty attacks, kassam attacks, suicide bombings, is suddenly not terrorism?
Better yet, anyone want to take odds that Obama will go along with that claptrap?
| 836 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:31:15am |
Netanyahu: Iran nukes trump global economy
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Netanyahu, a former finance minister, said he believes the global financial meltdown is reversible if governments, businesses and people make the right decisions.
"What is not reversible is the acquisition of nuclear weapons by a fanatic radical regime ... We have never had, since the dawn of the nuclear age, nuclear weapons in the hands of such a fanatical regime," he claimed.
I don't really like Netanyahu all that much but he is right here.
| 837 |
right_wing2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:31:31am |
Since we're teaching evolution, can we at least stop teaching the parts that have been proven to be hoaxes? Let's just start with these 3:
- The classic pictures of Peppered moths on trees at the time of the Industrial Revolution
- The Miller-Urey experiments being based on premises about the make-up of the atmosphere which are no longer accepted
- The Haeckel embryo comparisons being fraudulent
| 838 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:31:40am |
re: #827 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT! Good morning - I'm doing ok, just cold (these apartments were built with MUCH warmer temps in mind!) sorry it's so cold by you!
Glad you're doing well my friend!
| 839 |
Irish Rose Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:31:40am |
Gotta run to work for a couple of hours... l8r!
| 840 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:31:56am |
re: #812 phoenixgirl
i didn't trust him either, but was willing to give him my vote....then SARAH! i was so happy about that pick i actually campaigned for him! phone calls and everything! he broke my heart again......
She was the bright spot in that campaign. wasn't she? She sounds very Reaganesk to me. I think she is (and will be) more qualified for the officd of president than McCain was.
| 841 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:31:57am |
I'm sure he has our best interests at heart *gag*.
| 842 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:32:22am |
sprite,
you pain in the ass. I have better things to do than go and un-do all of your silly downdings.
but I will.
| 843 |
akak Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:32:53am |
re: #830 vapig
Once we lose the healthcare debacle we become not just socialists, we become communists. As the governments has discovered they have a veto power in in private companies they have given our money to, so they will have a veto power in denying us medical coverage determined by our personal behaviors.
As socialism removes economic freedoms, so communism removes personal freedoms.
Once?
That ship has sailed, only hope is disastrous first term & 2010 trash removal of politicians - which isn't gonna happen, too late already.
If Republicans were serious they would have already changed name & started re-branding.
| 844 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:33:47am |
| 845 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:34:15am |
re: #829 SteveC Hey SteveC - I have no idea - frankly I lost interest in football after the Giant's got beat by *spit* Philly.
Take Arizona and the points. Steelers have a very good defense, but the Cardnials will put up probably 17 points - that and the 14 you can get from Vegas bookies means that the Steelers need to score 32 points and I don't think that'll happen.
| 846 |
akak Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:34:18am |
re: #836 Nevergiveup
Netanyahu: Iran nukes trump global economy
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
"What is not reversible is the acquisition of nuclear weapons by a fanatic radical regime ... We have never had, since the dawn of the nuclear age, nuclear weapons in the hands of such a fanatical regime," he claimed.
Pakistan
| 847 |
right_wing2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:34:29am |
re: #830 vapig
Once we lose the healthcare debacle we become not just socialists, we become communists. As the governments has discovered they have a veto power in in private companies they have given our money to, so they will have a veto power in denying us medical coverage determined by our personal behaviors.
As socialism removes economic freedoms, so communism removes personal freedoms.
Once we "Free" health care, how long before the Obamessiah and his health care minions start telling us not just what we SHOULD eat, but what we MUST eat?
| 848 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:35:22am |
re: #828 BlueCanuck
Hey there Blue! Glad you enjoyed your "Nightshift" song early this morning - what beast are you talking about - WTH is going on this morning?
| 849 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:35:42am |
re: #832 Sharmuta
And for someone that said they were leaving numerous times, it's interesting that they are still around. What a fruitcake.
| 850 |
Digital Display Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:36:05am |
re: #818 realwest
Good morning y'all - from a cold (34 degrees going up to 51 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte! How is everyone this morning?
Good Morning RW..51 degrees? dang..It's colder than ________ ( fill in the blank) Here.
And it just stated snowing again...
| 851 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:36:08am |
re: #846 akak
Pakistan
Pakistan is not yet as fanatical as Iran if that's your point. But I ain't thrilled Pakistan has the bomb and we can't roll that one back either.
| 852 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:36:13am |
| 854 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:37:55am |
| 855 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:38:11am |
re: #849 BlueCanuck
And for someone that said they were leaving numerous times, it's interesting that they are still around. What a fruitcake.
like shingles, they keep coming back
| 856 |
SteveC Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:38:15am |
re: #830 vapig
Once we lose the healthcare debacle we become not just socialists, we become communists. As the governments has discovered they have a veto power in in private companies they have given our money to, so they will have a veto power in denying us medical coverage determined by our personal behaviors.
As socialism removes economic freedoms, so communism removes personal freedoms.
I think Healthcare is going to be a bare knuckles brawl. For any plan to work, Primary care doctors have to be the front end provider. Right now, that can't happen - we don't have enough Primary Care docs. (Specialties pay more, so more docs head in that direction.) Also the medical bloggers are gearing up for the debate. If you want some good health care policy debate - from people who are actually doing the work, not policy maker with their heads up their asses - check out The Happy Hospitalist and Kevin, MD. If you want any more, just pick almost anyone in their blogrolls.
Fascinating stuff!
| 857 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:38:46am |
re: #854 Nevergiveup
If they hate us so much how come they use our money?
It's in their blasted book...
| 858 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:39:56am |
re: #832 Sharmuta
Oh. I didn' realize that sprite was a poster out here. Hell just report her to Charles and be done with her, if she's been insulting Charles, Charles will take care of it.
Don't let it get to ya Sharm - ya got plenty of Karma to spare and we all know you - which, of course, is why you've got such a high Karma rating! Just let her wallow in her own sadness.
| 859 |
akak Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:40:37am |
re: #851 Nevergiveup
Pakistan is not yet as fanatical as Iran if that's your point. But I ain't thrilled Pakistan has the bomb and we can't roll that one back either.
I'd say any nation with a gorvernment that is known to have LET/ISI & others within it's ranks is fanatical.
| 860 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:40:56am |
re: #858 realwest
I did report her comments to Charles. I recommended #645 to him too.
| 861 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:41:10am |
re: #848 realwest
Ah, some poster started bad mouthing all the Creationist posts and how it alienated certain groups. Used the quote up top as an example.
/and it's a nirther as well.
| 862 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:42:09am |
Morning all.
re: #821 Sharmuta
Everyone- see comment #645!
Making it easy for those who jumped in at the bottom of the thread
| 863 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:42:38am |
re: #836 Nevergiveup
Good morning and you're absolutely correct about that.
I'm afraid, however that Obama's narcissistic personality disorder (h/t Sharmuta) will blind him to realty - I think Obama REALLY BELIEVES he can "talk" to Iran and make the rainbows appear.
| 864 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:42:47am |
Nirthers and Nearthers be damned!
Nerthers is my new nic for New Earth Creationists
| 865 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:43:09am |
re: #862 Bubblehead II
PIMP that baby all morning, gang. Bloody brilliant comment, imo.
| 866 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:43:22am |
re: #860 Sharmuta
I think it's karma has dropped by about 100 points this evening. Such a shame...
| 867 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:43:33am |
re: #864 Shug
Nirthers and Nearthers be damned!
Nerthers is my new nic for New Earth Creationists
Nearthers?
| 868 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:43:37am |
re: #811 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
But your wallet is lighter... that's gotta count for something...
MY LIMP! IT'S CURED!
/
| 869 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:45:17am |
Following talks in Ramallah with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who is at odds with Gaza's ruling Islamist movement Hamas, Mitchell told reporters: "To be successful in preventing the illicit traffic of arms into Gaza there must be a mechanism to allow the flow of legal goods, and that should be with the participation of the Palestinian Authority." (Reuters)
So what kind of stupidity is that? So what Mitchell is saying is just putting Fatah's name on a border crossing solves the problem? What an asshole. I hope is Israel is prepared for the shitcaine that is coming their way. And I bet Mitchell didn't stay in Ramallah last night!
| 870 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:45:28am |
re: #844 Spare O'Lake
Isn't it, though! Uh, good morning!
Spain has been nothing but an appeasment piece of shit since the little shoemaker got into office and cowardly yanked all of Spain's troops outta Iraq. I thought we had organized a boycott of Spain; whatever happened to that?
| 871 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:46:29am |
And realwest-
I'm not worried about my karma. That's why I joked I was mortally wounded.
It's like a pin prick to an elephant.
But going after others who called her on her BS comments about Charles denigrating people of faith? Well- I'm going to stand up for them like they stood up for Charles.
| 872 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:46:30am |
re: #837 right_wing2
Since we're teaching evolution, can we at least stop teaching the parts that have been proven to be hoaxes? Let's just start with these 3:
- The classic pictures of Peppered moths on trees at the time of the Industrial Revolution
- The Miller-Urey experiments being based on premises about the make-up of the atmosphere which are no longer accepted
- The Haeckel embryo comparisons being fraudulent
Don't forget Lucy!
| 873 |
monkeytime Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:46:37am |
re: #844 Spare O'Lake
Who gives Spain the right to hold jurisdiction over Isreal?
Let's put Spain on trail here for harrassing Isreal.
| 874 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:46:50am |
re: #867 Sharmuta
Nearthers?
New earther
one of the " the Earth is 6000 years old " crowd
A Nearther is just as nutty as a Nirther, but much more inclined to send Charles hate Mail
| 875 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:48:10am |
re: #873 monkeytime
Who gives Spain the right to hold jurisdiction over Isreal?
Let's put Spain on trail here for harrassing Isreal.
Most of these EURO WEENIE countries have similar laws. They are feeling superior because most of them did such a cracker jack job killing Jews during the Holocaust
| 876 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:48:45am |
| 878 |
quickjustice Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:49:29am |
re: #856 SteveC
The Massachusetts "experiment" in universal health care coverage confirms your opinion. Massachusetts is now finding out that there aren't enough doctors to provide care to a fully insured population. It's likely that the same is true nationally. It takes between six and thirteen years AFTER college to train a competent physician, so the lead time on getting more doctors into the pipeline extends well beyond an eight-year Obama term.
With too few doctors and too many patients, you'll end up with queueing (rationing) of health care, or dilution of the quality of health care as too few doctors try to manage too many patients, or likely, both.
Ironically, John McCain's health care plan was far better than Obama's, but McCain himself articulated it poorly. That plan moved in the direction of empowering patients to take control of their own health care by handing them control over their own health care dollars, and equalizing the tax benefits between employer-paid health care and self-employed health care through use of tax-deductible Medical Savings Accounts.
| 879 |
esch Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:49:52am |
re: #847 right_wing2
Once we "Free" health care, how long before the Obamessiah and his health care minions start telling us not just what we SHOULD eat, but what we MUST eat?
The problem is:
Universal=equalization=budget overruns=rationing=passive euthanasia
Including me. Which is why I have no qualms putting an "Obamacare will kill me" sticker on my car if they actually start talking about this.
| 880 |
Pietr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:50:03am |
Good Morning, Lizard Nation, my internet is apparently returned. I was having fun with the Tech Note thread last nite-and then Time Warner went all funny on me. It's 36 F here in San Antone, clear, and so far I'm thinking it's a good day..... :>))
| 881 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:50:15am |
Bye all.... busy day today...
Here's to making it successfully through America held Hostage, week 2.
| 882 |
Steve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:50:33am |
re: #853 Sharmuta
It all started at #161.
I am late to this conversation, have been backtracking and I am not sure about posts #161 and #645 that people are upset about. Can I please get a explination?
| 883 |
Sharmuta Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:51:19am |
re: #882 Steve
It's quite simple- Charles was accused of denigrating people of faith. That's simply not true.
| 884 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:52:23am |
re: #843 akak
Once?
That ship has sailed, only hope is disastrous first term & 2010 trash removal of politicians - which isn't gonna happen, too late already.
If Republicans were serious they would have already changed name & started re-branding.
Actually, I don't believe we have a chance in hell of getting 2010. Why? Because the tax cuts they plan on letting expire won't kick in until folks do their taxes in 2011. By then they'll have already voted and will realize their mistake too late.
I still contend that there is a difference between socialism and communism and I believe the libs want us in the full blown totalitarism of communism.
| 885 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:52:41am |
re: #878 quickjustice
The Massachusetts "experiment" in universal health care coverage confirms your opinion. Massachusetts is now finding out that there aren't enough doctors to provide care to a fully insured population. It's likely that the same is true nationally. It takes between six and thirteen years AFTER college to train a competent physician, so the lead time on getting more doctors into the pipeline extends well beyond an eight-year Obama term.
With too few doctors and too many patients, you'll end up with queueing (rationing) of health care, or dilution of the quality of health care as too few doctors try to manage too many patients, or likely, both.
Ironically, John McCain's health care plan was far better than Obama's, but McCain himself articulated it poorly. That plan moved in the direction of empowering patients to take control of their own health care by handing them control over their own health care dollars, and equalizing the tax benefits between employer-paid health care and self-employed health care through use of tax-deductible Medical Savings Accounts.
In addition, you'll have an even larger deficit of primary care physicians.
Primary care pays considerably less than subspecialty ( most of the time ) and with primary care docs seeing more patients, and dealing with less reimbursement and more red tape, you aren't exactly setting up the system for success.
primary care becoming even less attractive to the med students, who can choose subspecialty care.
the only solution will be to recruit more and more foreign medical graduates or mandate that US medical grads work in primary care, which Hillary tried.
It's a big mess either way
| 886 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:52:55am |
Good morning all.
Boy, I'm glad I live outside the city of Dallas, and don't have to pay for the all the crap they're wasting the taxpayers' money on:
Dallas likely to pay for 500 homes for homeless
By RUDOLPH BUSH and DAVE LEVINTHAL / The Dallas Morning News
The Dallas City Council has agreed that taxpayers should help fund the construction of 700 permanent housing units for homeless people who need consistent support to get off the streets.
Though council members haven't yet committed any money to the plan, their vote Wednesday signaled that they intend to use city money to pay for about 500 of the 700 units within the next five years. Federal funds will pay for about 200.
In today's dollars, the cost of the housing ranges from $7.2 million to $18 million. The project also will include about $4 million to provide support services like medical care and drug and alcohol treatment to residents.
Un.believable.
| 887 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:53:29am |
re: #851 Nevergiveup
Yeah, but at least Pakistan made it themselves, not with any Russian help. And my good friend just got back from Pakistan a couple of days ago - he got married! - and said he's SO SAD because in his lifetime, Pakistan has never really had a leader who cared much about the Pakistani people, only about looting foreign aid. I mentioned Paki's nukes and he snorted - they average 7 hours a day of "rolling" blackouts in Lahore where he's from and about 5 or 6 hours in Karachi - he said he'd be surprised if the Paki military ever obeyed an order to use Paki nukes against anyone except India and then only if they could see the controls! LOL. I think Iran is the bigger threat to World Peace and he agreed with me and (*muttered* along with Obama).
| 888 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:53:49am |
and our good friend iam745 has arrived now too. Quick to sprites defense.
/another troll looking to meet stinky in a dark water closet. . .
| 889 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:53:57am |
re: #886 Ward Cleaver
Good morning all.
Boy, I'm glad I live outside the city of Dallas, and don't have to pay for the all the crap they're wasting the taxpayers' money on:
Dallas likely to pay for 500 homes for homelessUn.believable.
Okay, except for my Federal taxes that are paying for part of this idiocy.
| 890 |
right_wing2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:55:06am |
re: #879 esch
The problem is:
Universal=equalization=budget overruns=rationing=passive euthanasiaIncluding me. Which is why I have no qualms putting an "Obamacare will kill me" sticker on my car if they actually start talking about this.
Point taken. Oregon already has some kind of euthanasia law, but I'm not sure of the details. I know it's a bigger problem in countries like Sweden.
| 891 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:55:40am |
Gaza Violence Complicates Mitchell Mission
Perfect example of why I despise the NTSlimes.
As Mr. Mitchell prepared to travel to Ramallah, Israel said it launched an air attack in the southern Gaza town of Khan Younis against a “known terrorist” accused by an Israeli military spokesman of being part of a squad responsible for a roadside bombing on Tuesday that killed an Israeli soldier on the Israeli side of the border.
"known terrorist." Yep, Israel lies....
Global Jihad, a small and shadowy group that broke from Hamas, took responsibility for Tuesday’s roadside bombing. Israel retaliated with an air strike that wounded a militant and a raid that killed a man whose family said he was a farmer.
Well, they said he's a farmer, it must be true, so no need for "farmer."
Don't even want to start on that picture, either...
I hear O'Reilly calls himself Paul Revere now.
Signal us like this then :
1 if by Land
2 if by Sea
3 if by NY Times.
| 892 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:56:13am |
re: #884 vapig
Actually, I don't believe we have a chance in hell of getting 2010. Why? Because the tax cuts they plan on letting expire won't kick in until folks do their taxes in 2011. By then they'll have already voted and will realize their mistake too late.
I still contend that there is a difference between socialism and communism and I believe the libs want us in the full blown totalitarism of communism.
Here's one that is up your alley I think. I believe Obama and his crew decided to keep on the Bush defense team because he plans on cutting the shit out of the defense budget. So those there like Gates will have to go along and thus be held responsible for our decreased readiness or resign. Essentially Obama has created a fire wall for himself with Bush Buffers. I hope some of them or all of them have the balls to resign in protest. But I am not optimistic.
| 893 |
SteveC Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:57:22am |
re: #878 quickjustice
With too few doctors and too many patients, you'll end up with queueing (rationing) of health care, or dilution of the quality of health care as too few doctors try to manage too many patients, or likely, both.
This "Federal Health Board," as Daschle refers to his proposed behemoth, would be modeled on Great Britain's National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE). In the UK's socialized medical system, NICE is the bureaucracy responsible for determining the value and effectiveness of medical treatments and procedures. And it regularly hands down death sentences to gravely ill patients.
| 894 |
DeafDog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:57:48am |
re: #884 vapig
Actually, I don't believe we have a chance in hell of getting 2010. Why? Because the tax cuts they plan on letting expire won't kick in until folks do their taxes in 2011. By then they'll have already voted and will realize their mistake too late.
I'm not so sure about that.
The economy and politics discount folks expectations for the future. Today, for example, folks are discounting that Capital Gain taxes are going to go up....so no one wants to invest.
I heard on the TV last night that there is $56 Trillion sitting in cash right now....$56 Trillion....and instead of tapping into that by lowering tax rates, the government decides to increase spending by a trillion...it's just dumb.
| 895 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:57:51am |
re: #800 3 wood
GM to end jobs bank benefit next week
Going from 95% to 72% is at least some improvement, but still leaves them at a competitive disadvantage.
Watch for Obama to use this and other situations to justify nationalizing health care.
The Democrats created this disaster, and now they'll use it as an excuse to turn us into Cuba.
| 896 |
Steve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:58:00am |
re: #883 Sharmuta
It's quite simple- Charles was accused of denigrating people of faith. That's simply not true.
I can see what you are saying, but I see "Sprite" commenting on a quote by Issac Asimov that sounds like a slight at Charles. Not that I am bashing Charles, but it does seem, at times, that there is way to much time spent on creationists and their theories/beliefs. IMHO.
| 897 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:58:31am |
re: #893 SteveC
This "Federal Health Board," as Daschle refers to his proposed behemoth, would be modeled on Great Britain's National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE). In the UK's socialized medical system, NICE is the bureaucracy responsible for determining the value and effectiveness of medical treatments and procedures. And it regularly hands down death sentences to gravely ill patients.
And they also have a two tier system over there. If you got the bucks you go private. And it's coming to an America near you.
| 898 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:59:15am |
re: #891 SasquatchOnSteroids
Gaza Violence Complicates Mitchell Mission
Perfect example of why I despise the NTSlimes.
Well, they said he's a farmer, it must be true, so no need for "farmer."
Don't even want to start on that picture, either...I hear O'Reilly calls himself Paul Revere now.
Signal us like this then :1 if by Land
2 if by Sea
3 if by NY Times.
"Mitchell Mission". What a freakin' joke.
| 899 |
Steve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 6:59:16am |
re: #886 Ward Cleaver
Good morning all.
Boy, I'm glad I live outside the city of Dallas, and don't have to pay for the all the crap they're wasting the taxpayers' money on:
Dallas likely to pay for 500 homes for homelessUn.believable.
That will go over like a lead ballon. What happens when drugs, alcohol and violence be come that norm in those neighborhoods?
| 900 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:00:24am |
re: #898 Ward Cleaver
"Mitchell Mission". What a freakin' joke.
Except a joke is funny. This is about as funny as life and death.
| 901 |
unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:00:34am |
Mornin' Lizards. Cold & sunny here in occupied Virginia.
| 902 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:00:58am |
re: #890 right_wing2
Point taken. Oregon already has some kind of euthanasia law, but I'm not sure of the details. I know it's a bigger problem in countries like Sweden.
Washington state passed a similar law last November 4th. Not good.
| 903 |
right_wing2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:01:36am |
re: #893 SteveC
This "Federal Health Board," as Daschle refers to his proposed behemoth, would be modeled on Great Britain's National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE). In the UK's socialized medical system, NICE is the bureaucracy responsible for determining the value and effectiveness of medical treatments and procedures. And it regularly hands down death sentences to gravely ill patients.
And the value of certain people, too.
| 905 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:01:55am |
re: #900 Nevergiveup
Except a joke is funny. This is about as funny as life and death.
Yep. Memo to George: Gaza ain't Northern Ireland.
| 906 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:02:11am |
re: #898 Ward Cleaver
I know, it's all like a fuckin' nightmare.
Excuse the language, about the only way to express it.
| 907 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:02:35am |
re: #877 Iron Fist
Well, and it helps so much that People like a tax fraud like Geithner gets put in a job that helps perpetuate his fraud.
| 908 |
CIA Reject Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:02:52am |
"Creationists make it sound as though a “theory” is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night."— Isaac Asimov
You mean it isn't? Gee, I guess that's why I never heard anything back on any of my grant applications.
Good Morning Everybody!
| 909 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:03:11am |
re: #906 SasquatchOnSteroids
I know, it's all like a fuckin' nightmare.
Excuse the language, about the only way to express it.
The "mission" will accomplish nothing, except perhaps to get Mitchell blown up.
| 910 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:03:13am |
re: #886 Ward Cleaver
Good morning all.
Boy, I'm glad I live outside the city of Dallas, and don't have to pay for the all the crap they're wasting the taxpayers' money on:
Dallas likely to pay for 500 homes for homeless
Un.believable.
It'll cost even more to rebuild them after the tenants decide to be homeless again.
It has been my experience that the two largest groups of homeless are the mentally ill and what my grandmother called "shiftless".
The mentally ill homeless won't be helped by giving them a house. They need care, and probably lots of it. Some of them would no doubt be wards of the State for life.
The shiftless will strip the copper out of the homes, sell it, and move on. There's no cure.
I have a theory (with a small t, so no rocks, please) that part of the shiftless issue is the rapid development/change of society compared to our genetic makeup as hunter/gatherer/scavengers. When this country had a frontier, people that could not "hold down a job" had a chance to make a living for themselves either on the outskirts of "civilized" places or in the wilds. These days they have no place to go. There was a case in Houston of a perfectly nice man who scraped money together by selling paper and cans. He lived in a treehouse he built himself, back in the woods on public land. They forced him out, and suggested he was crazy. I think he was perfectly normal - for him. Others turn to crime and fraud. And that's going to be the majority of the people lined up for "free" housing.
| 911 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:04:10am |
re: #905 Ward Cleaver
Yep. Memo to George: Gaza ain't Northern Ireland.
At least one could grab a Guinness there.
| 912 |
SteveC Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:04:43am |
re: #885 Shug
Primary care pays considerably less than subspecialty ( most of the time ) and with primary care docs seeing more patients, and dealing with less reimbursement and more red tape, you aren't exactly setting up the system for success.
This is simplified, of course, but if a Primary Care Doc sees 20 patients a day and can only charge about $100 per patient, and a Specialist sees 10 patients a day and can charge $500 per patient, where are the young docs going to go?
the only solution will be to recruit more and more foreign medical graduates or mandate that US medical grads work in primary care, which Hillary tried.
And what's to stop those guys from moving into specialty areas once their obligations are completed? You can't keep 'em down on the farm.
I am NOT saying a Specialist makes too much money. He busted his buns through college, med school, internship, and whatever it took to learn his area well enough to specialize. If he put that much effort into shaping his life, he deserves to reap the rewards.
| 913 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:05:22am |
| 914 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:05:26am |
re: #152 Sharmuta
Re: Obama's letter of Apology to Iran
I read about that last night & I am thoroughly appalled. Here is a response I posted to avanti's idiotic defense of Obama's pending diplomatic epic fail:
I have no problem with him replying to a letter and will wait to see the final version before judging it. If in fact it's a open letter to the Iranian people it might do some good. I recall how the Iranian youth reacted to the axis of evil speech, moving them to stick up for a leader they despise.
Anything that marginalizes the radicals and possibly cost them the election is worth trying.
The fact that his staff has 3 drafts and have been tweeking it for months gives me hope that it'll be well thought out.
You are deluded. The report indicates Obama's letter promises the US does not seek the overthrow of the Iranian regime, but only to change their behavior. Tell me, by what ingenious argument will Obama, President of the Great Satan, USA, convince the divinely guided mullahs of Tehran to "change their behavior"?
If addressed as an open letter to the Iranian people, it will come as a terrible blow to them. 70% of Iranians hate the mullahs and hope for their evil regime to end.
Iranian elections are shams. The mullahs on the Council of Guardians choose the candidates and eliminate anyone deemed unacceptable. President Ahmadinejad, although offensive, is a puppet to the mullahs. The mullahs will allow a so-called moderate to be elected if they believe the US administration will be fooled into thinking the regime is actually moderating. On that point they have the feckless administration of Obama the Naive squarely pegged.
The Iranians have already told Obama they will never stop their nuclear program, and have added the additional demand of an apology for all US past wrongs against Iran. No doubt you will applaud Obama's further grovelling.
Oh, the authors of the letter crow that this will mark the end of the US labeling Iran a part of the "Axis of Evil". Here's a short catalog of life in Iran under the mullahs:
- Iran has the highest per-capita rate of heroin addiction in the world, while the mullahs control the drug trade
- thousands of the children orphaned by the 2003 earthquake in Bam, Iran have been sold into slavery by the mullahs "charity" which took them in
- Iran is the world's leading source of child sex slaves, sold to wealthy Iranians, Gulf Arabs and even into Europe
- the average per capita income of Iranians is 5% of what it was 30 years ago
- Iran has armed & trained thousands of Iraqi militia fighters
- Iran has provided a safe haven to several senior al Qaeda terrorists, including Osama bin Laden's son
- Iran funds, arms & trains Hezbollah
- Iran funds, arms & trains Hamas
- Iranian officials have been charged in connection with the 1994 terrorists attacks in Buenos Aries
- several Iranian mullahs & other officials have made repeated calls & threats to destroy the state of Israel
- Iranian agents have been identified in connection with the 1996 Khobar towers attack
Maybe Obama sees it differently, but that hideous record sounds perfectly evil to me. Obama is dangerously naive if he believes a letter of apology will change Iranian behavior.
| 915 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:05:48am |
Un freakin believable. Hope they boot his ass out of the Country
Army Deserter Seeking German Asylum 'Having Time of My Life'
The 31-year-old former mechanic of the 601st Aviation Support Battalion is enjoying perks that eluded him back home in Ohio: a bed, a bank account, a cell phone and friends.
Best of all from his standpoint, he isn't back in Iraq.
"I'm having the time of my life," says Shepherd, the only American bunking at a refugee-processing center in southern Germany.
*SPIT*
| 917 |
Steve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:07:05am |
re: #902 Ward Cleaver
Washington state passed a similar law last November 4th. Not good.
Doesn't Denmark also have a 'get rid of the poor old folks law'?
| 918 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:07:12am |
re: #914 Kenneth
Re: Obama's letter of Apology to Iran
I read about that last night & I am thoroughly appalled. Here is a response I posted to avanti's idiotic defense of Obama's pending diplomatic epic fail:
You are deluded. The report indicates Obama's letter promises the US does not seek the overthrow of the Iranian regime, but only to change their behavior. Tell me, by what ingenious argument will Obama, President of the Great Satan, USA, convince the divinely guided mullahs of Tehran to "change their behavior"?
If addressed as an open letter to the Iranian people, it will come as a terrible blow to them. 70% of Iranians hate the mullahs and hope for their evil regime to end.
Iranian elections are shams. The mullahs on the Council of Guardians choose the candidates and eliminate anyone deemed unacceptable. President Ahmadinejad, although offensive, is a puppet to the mullahs. The mullahs will allow a so-called moderate to be elected if they believe the US administration will be fooled into thinking the regime is actually moderating. On that point they have the feckless administration of Obama the Naive squarely pegged.
The Iranians have already told Obama they will never stop their nuclear program, and have added the additional demand of an apology for all US past wrongs against Iran. No doubt you will applaud Obama's further grovelling.
Oh, the authors of the letter crow that this will mark the end of the US labeling Iran a part of the "Axis of Evil". Here's a short catalog of life in Iran under the mullahs:
- Iran has the highest per-capita rate of heroin addiction in the world, while the mullahs control the drug trade
- thousands of the children orphaned by the 2003 earthquake in Bam, Iran have been sold into slavery by the mullahs "charity" which took them in
- Iran is the world's leading source of child sex slaves, sold to wealthy Iranians, Gulf Arabs and even into Europe
- the average per capita income of Iranians is 5% of what it was 30 years ago
- Iran has armed & trained thousands of Iraqi militia fighters
- Iran has provided a safe haven to several senior al Qaeda terrorists, including Osama bin Laden's son
- Iran funds, arms & trains Hezbollah
- Iran funds, arms & trains Hamas
- Iranian officials have been charged in connection with the 1994 terrorists attacks in Buenos Aries
- several Iranian mullahs & other officials have made repeated calls & threats to destroy the state of Israel
- Iranian agents have been identified in connection with the 1996 Khobar towers attackMaybe Obama sees it differently, but that hideous record sounds perfectly evil to me. Obama is dangerously naive if he believes a letter of apology will change Iranian behavior.
Like I said the other day, Obama is a weenie.
| 919 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:07:18am |
re: #892 Nevergiveup
Here's one that is up your alley I think. I believe Obama and his crew decided to keep on the Bush defense team because he plans on cutting the shit out of the defense budget. So those there like Gates will have to go along and thus be held responsible for our decreased readiness or resign. Essentially Obama has created a fire wall for himself with Bush Buffers. I hope some of them or all of them have the balls to resign in protest. But I am not optimistic.
Of course! Personally, I can't believe Gats stayed on - probably had some soke blown up his ass. I mean, where do you think all this "stimulous" money is going to come from?
Old dem trick - support the war while defunding it!
| 920 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:07:51am |
re: #912 SteveC
but if a Primary Care Doc sees 20 patients a day and can only charge about $100 per patient, and a Specialist sees 10 patients a day and can charge $500 per patient, where are the young docs going to go?And what's to stop those guys from moving into specialty areas once their obligations are completed? You can't keep 'em down on the farm.
I am NOT saying a Specialist makes too much money. He busted his buns through college, med school, internship, and whatever it took to learn his area well enough to specialize. If he put that much effort into shaping his life, he deserves to reap the rewards.
of even worse, they see 70 patients a day ( all with multiple nagging chronic problems) and the reimbursement is 20 bucks a patient and you have to pay somebody to fill out the 3 forms to collect your 20 dollars
| 921 |
lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:07:58am |
The Muqata (who liveblogs the Gaza war), makes the following observations:
9:33 AM Professor Shalom Rosenberg from the Hebrew University replied in an interview about the "proportionality" between the few killed IDF soldiers and the hundreds of Gazans:Hamas themselves defined the [dis-] proportionality, if Hamas demands [the release] of 1000 jailed terrorists for the return of only one Israeli soldier, Gilad Shalit, then Hamas themselves have defined that the life of an Israeli is equal to that of 1000 Gazans. If so, the rule of proportions state that to defend the life of one Israeli, we need to attack terrorists even at the risk of killing hundreds of civilians.How can Gazans be not totally embarrassed that Hamas is demanding the release of a thousand terrorists in exchange for only 1 IDF soldier?
Simple. They don't care how many casualties are inflicted so long as Israelis die. They know that they have numbers on their side, and that they can bleed Israel dry in the course of the long war. Hamas can only hope it comes into possession of weapons that are far deadlier than the current batch of kassams and grads, so that it can fulfill its death quota.
Israelis value their lives so much that they would consider releasing (and have released) hundreds of terrorists in exchange for the remains of Israelis, despite the degradation of Israel's security as a result of such deals.
| 922 |
DeafDog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:08:18am |
re: #899 Steve
That will go over like a lead ballon. What happens when drugs, alcohol and violence be come that norm in those neighborhoods?
No problem - A few good community organizers can fix anything.
| 923 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:08:18am |
Ahmadinejad will take Obama's lunch money and stuff him in a locker, like he was a junior high school freshman.
| 924 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:09:26am |
re: #853 Sharmuta OK, I just went and read her comments and understand what you're saying. But her #266 doesn't seem offensive to me - Charles has said himself that belief in God doesn't preclude belief in Evolution and that we shouldn't teach Creationism/ID in the classroom - something at least that Sprite apparently also believes in.
And, fwliw, a number - perhaps a half dozen or so - LGF'ers who haven't been banned have e-mailed me saying they feel that Christians are being bashed on the ID threads and so they don't come to those threads anymore (in fact many of them don't come to LGF anymore and they haven't been banned). And no I don't know why they've e-mailed me: I have zero influence out here.
I don't like the way the ID threads have evolved much myself - there sure seems to be a LOT of vitriol spewed at both sides in this fight. Her calling Charles on HAVING these threads was totally uncalled for however, and if she's been busy down-dinging folks "on the sly" then to hell with her.
FOLKS - if y'all don't like the creationist/ID threads, just don't read 'em - move on to something else.
That's not really HARD to understand, is it?!
| 925 |
CIA Reject Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:10:09am |
re: #918 Ward Cleaver
Like I said the other day, Obama is a weenie.
You sir, have a true way with words - upding!
| 926 |
DeafDog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:10:29am |
re: #907 vapig
Well, and it helps so much that People like a tax fraud like Geithner gets put in a job that helps perpetuate his fraud.
Charlie Rangel writes the tax laws and he's a tax cheat, too.
Not ironic at all.
| 927 |
Steve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:11:19am |
re: #922 DeafDog
No problem - A few good community organizers can fix anything.
Oh cruds, missed that line of thought;-)
| 929 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:11:31am |
re: #910 OldLineTexan
It'll cost even more to rebuild them after the tenants decide to be homeless again.
It has been my experience that the two largest groups of homeless are the mentally ill and what my grandmother called "shiftless".
The mentally ill homeless won't be helped by giving them a house. They need care, and probably lots of it. Some of them would no doubt be wards of the State for life.
The shiftless will strip the copper out of the homes, sell it, and move on. There's no cure.
I have a theory (with a small t, so no rocks, please) that part of the shiftless issue is the rapid development/change of society compared to our genetic makeup as hunter/gatherer/scavengers. When this country had a frontier, people that could not "hold down a job" had a chance to make a living for themselves either on the outskirts of "civilized" places or in the wilds. These days they have no place to go. There was a case in Houston of a perfectly nice man who scraped money together by selling paper and cans. He lived in a treehouse he built himself, back in the woods on public land. They forced him out, and suggested he was crazy. I think he was perfectly normal - for him. Others turn to crime and fraud. And that's going to be the majority of the people lined up for "free" housing.
I think you're on to something here...definately food for thought
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:12:10am |
They lie every time their lips move, and yet the diplomats (and addled former President Carter) will say, you can trust 'em!
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:12:33am |
re: #922 DeafDog
No problem - A few good community organizers can fix anything.
A side effect of all the copper thefts has been the reappearance of aluminum wiring. In some places it's being used in street lights, since it isn't as attractive to thieves as copper. If they're smart (which I seriously doubt), they'll wire these homes for the homeless with aluminum (but that could require changing electrical codes).
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:12:35am |
re: #926 DeafDog
Charlie Rangel writes the tax laws and he's a tax cheat, too.
Not ironic at all.
Demand passage of the Rangel Rule!
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SteveC Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:13:00am |
re: #915 Bubblehead II
The 31-year-old former mechanic of the 601st Aviation Support Battalion is enjoying perks that eluded him back home in Ohio: a bed, a bank account, a cell phone and friends.
WTF? Any asswipe with a pulse can get a cell phone.
No bed? No bank account?
No friends, I can understand. People tend not to hang around creeps.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:13:57am |
re: #925 CIA Reject
You sir, have a true way with words - upding!
He's completely clueless about the real world. God help us if his screwups bring us another 9/11.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:14:18am |
re: #914 Kenneth
Speaking of foreign policy hopeyness:
I torture myself listening to NPR, so you don't have to... and this morning, while patting themselves on their liberal backs about how the Obama Administration "will be emphasizing diplomacy instead of force", they were moaning about how terrible it is that the Pentagon has a much bigger budget than the State Department, and vastly greater manpower!
Hey, geniuses... maybe because there's never really any circumstance under which it makes sense to deploy 200,000 diplomats to a given country?
(Oh, and good morning to all.)
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CIA Reject Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:14:52am |
re: #910 OldLineTexan
It'll cost even more to rebuild them after the tenants decide to be homeless again.
It has been my experience that the two largest groups of homeless are the mentally ill and what my grandmother called "shiftless".
The mentally ill homeless won't be helped by giving them a house. They need care, and probably lots of it. Some of them would no doubt be wards of the State for life.
The shiftless will strip the copper out of the homes, sell it, and move on. There's no cure.
I have a theory (with a small t, so no rocks, please) that part of the shiftless issue is the rapid development/change of society compared to our genetic makeup as hunter/gatherer/scavengers. When this country had a frontier, people that could not "hold down a job" had a chance to make a living for themselves either on the outskirts of "civilized" places or in the wilds. These days they have no place to go. There was a case in Houston of a perfectly nice man who scraped money together by selling paper and cans. He lived in a treehouse he built himself, back in the woods on public land. They forced him out, and suggested he was crazy. I think he was perfectly normal - for him. Others turn to crime and fraud. And that's going to be the majority of the people lined up for "free" housing.
I think you have hit on something very significant there.
But wait a sec, you mean there are still homeless people wandering around? I thought they all disappeared in a puff of white smoke (or unicorn farts if you prefer) at noon last Tuesday?
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tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:14:54am |
Global Government!
Coming soon!
Gotta love it.
Kudos to the House GOP for voting unanimously against the Pork Spending plan. Good also for the Blue Dog Dems who voted against the Pork Spending Plan as well.
Now, we know those jelly-legged Senators who are going to support the plan (Graham, Snowe, Collins, etc.)... The line must be drawn here!
| 939 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:15:28am |
re: #933 SteveC
No friends, I can understand. People tend not to hang around creeps.
/ Then explain the Obama's
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:15:40am |
re: #936 Occasional Reader
Speaking of foreign policy hopeyness:
I torture myself listening to NPR, so you don't have to... and this morning, while patting themselves on their liberal backs about how the Obama Administration "will be emphasizing diplomacy instead of force", they were moaning about how terrible it is that the Pentagon has a much bigger budget than the State Department, and vastly greater manpower!
Hey, geniuses... maybe because there's never really any circumstance under which it makes sense to deploy 200,000 diplomats to a given country?
(Oh, and good morning to all.)
Thanks OR. I, for one, appreciate your sacrifice.
| 942 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:15:59am |
re: #847 right_wing2
Once we "Free" health care, how long before the Obamessiah and his health care minions start telling us not just what we SHOULD eat, but what we MUST eat?
About five seconds considering what they dictated to Citi Bank regarding their jet.
Note: They bought the jet in 2005. It is newer and more cost efective than their currant two jets. They planned to downsize from two to one jet. It is more fuel efficient. They'd planned to sell their other two jets to offset the cost of the new purchase.
Cost and business-wise, it was a prudent move. The government, however, is dealing in totalitarianism and now feels they can dictate what this once private company does. To the detrimate of us all.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:16:30am |
I just got an email from a client asking me for my email address. These are the people that will be most helped by ObamaCare.
| 944 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:16:33am |
Yo sprite. When you get here be aware that you have gone to far.
/disregard this everyone else. ;)
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:16:44am |
re: #938 tfc3rid
Kudos to the House GOP for voting unanimously against the Pork Spending plan. Good also for the Blue Dog Dems who voted against the Pork Spending Plan as well.
Think it could be a good time to resurrect the Newt?
| 946 |
lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:16:53am |
re: #936 Occasional Reader
Speaking of foreign policy hopeyness:
I torture myself listening to NPR, so you don't have to... and this morning, while patting themselves on their liberal backs about how the Obama Administration "will be emphasizing diplomacy instead of force", they were moaning about how terrible it is that the Pentagon has a much bigger budget than the State Department, and vastly greater manpower!
Hey, geniuses... maybe because there's never really any circumstance under which it makes sense to deploy 200,000 diplomats to a given country?
(Oh, and good morning to all.)
Or, if you were to follow along with the diplodopes and believe that the US shouldn't engage in military ops, and that peacekeeping should be left up to the UN, then you would not have UN peacekeeping operations since the US is the only country other than Russia to have the logistical capabilities to support those kinds of operations.
Besides, a US carrier battle group can provide quicker humanitarian aid around the world than the UN, and they don't need UN approval to act.
| 947 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:17:23am |
re: #877 Iron Fist Good morning my friend! Spot on comment. We at least knew - as bad as McCain was, that he truly LOVES America and respects her; Obama does neither. That alone was enough for me to vote for McCain.
And people who didn't vote for McCain cause he wasn't "conservative enough" are as much to blame for the fix we currently find ourselves in as those who actively supported Obama.
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SteveC Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:17:23am |
re: #939 Bubblehead II
No friends, I can understand. People tend not to hang around creeps.
/ Then explain the Obama's
I'm just a simple guy, some things are beyond me. I beg your forgiveness!
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:17:32am |
re: #943 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I just got an email from a client asking me for my email address. These are the people that will be most helped by ObamaCare.
If they don't know your email address, how could they send you an email asking for it?
| 950 |
Lincolntf Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:17:46am |
re: #936 Occasional Reader
Oh jeez, do you listen to Diane Reem? I often have NPR on in the morning (I don't mind the BBC world report segment) and that lady is not only a moonbat's moonbat but she always sounds like she just chewed on a light bulb. I call her "The Bride of the Crypt Keeper".
| 951 |
Digital Display Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:18:25am |
re: #924 realwest
I really enjoy the ID threads cause a lot of science gets discussed.
I really like the Tech Threads..
| 952 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:18:28am |
Good morning from the Land of Impeachment.
Well, it looks as though this may be Blagojevich's last day. He will speak in front of the state Senate at 11am CST today, giving his closing arguments (even though he presented no witnesses, testimony, etc). It will be broadcast.
Here's a couple of updates from Senator Dan Rutherford (R-Pontiac):
| 953 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:19:31am |
re: #880 Pietr Morning Pietr! Goive it time, the day's just begun! LOL!
As for TimeWarner - it's just amazing to me how they manage to stay in business.
| 954 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:19:31am |
re: #952 Honorary Yooper
Good morning from the Land of Impeachment.
Well, it looks as though this may be Blagojevich's last day. He will speak in front of the state Senate at 11am CST today, giving his closing arguments (even though he presented no witnesses, testimony, etc). It will be broadcast.
Here's a couple of updates from Senator Dan Rutherford (R-Pontiac):
[Video]
I'm thinking he'll don a toga, and quote from Caesar.
| 955 |
SteveC Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:19:36am |
re: #952 Honorary Yooper
Here's a couple of updates from Senator Dan Rutherford (R-Pontiac):
Is it legal to drive a Buick in Pontiac, Michigan?
| 956 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:19:53am |
re: #926 DeafDog
Charlie Rangel writes the tax laws and he's a tax cheat, too.
Not ironic at all.
Yet they get a pass in the MFM (TM Miss Mandy) and their apologists makes all the requisite mewling noises to give them a pass. Truly disgusting! A person with a (R) after their name would be tarred, feathered and run out on a rail within 24 hours - by their own party!
| 957 |
right_wing2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:20:01am |
re: #935 Ward Cleaver
He's completely clueless about the real world. God help us
ifwhen his screwups bring us another 9/11.
Fixed
| 958 |
unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:20:28am |
re: #952 Honorary Yooper
Be kinda neat if this is the start of a turn-around for republicans in the Land of Lincoln. Good luck, y'all.
| 959 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:20:51am |
re: #955 SteveC
Is it legal to drive a Buick in Pontiac, Michigan?
No idea, but this is Pontiac, Illinois.
| 960 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:20:52am |
re: #942 vapig
About five seconds considering what they dictated to Citi Bank regarding their jet.
Note: They bought the jet in 2005. It is newer and more cost efective than their currant two jets. They planned to downsize from two to one jet. It is more fuel efficient. They'd planned to sell their other two jets to offset the cost of the new purchase.
Currant jets? That's quite a jam.
| 961 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:21:13am |
re: #947 realwest
Good morning my friend! Spot on comment. We at least knew - as bad as McCain was, that he truly LOVES America and respects her; Obama does neither. That alone was enough for me to vote for McCain.
And people who didn't vote for McCain cause he wasn't "conservative enough" are as much to blame for the fix we currently find ourselves in as those who actively supported Obama.
Let me play devil's advocate here (I did vote, not for Obama).
As long as everybody continues to vote, choosing the "lesser of two evils", we will continue to have one of the two evils to choose from.
Do you think it plausible that there is a silver lining behind the cloud, and maybe next time a fairly clear cut choice will be presented? Maybe we get a real conservative vs a real liberal?
This election , IMHO, was a RINO vs a closet Commie.
| 962 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:21:18am |
re: #905 Ward Cleaver
Yep. Memo to George: Gaza ain't Northern Ireland.
I only visited Northern Ireland (Belfast) once, in 1986. It was kind of surreal. It looked like just about any medium-to-large British city... except they had the nice little policelady swathed in Kevlar who would sweep you with a metal detector before going in the grocery store, and every once in a while an armored Land Rover would drive down the street, with two soldier poking assault rifles out the back door.
| 963 |
gymmom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:21:22am |
re: #936 Occasional Reader
I laughed out loud driving by myself while listening to NPR this am. They were talking about the fact that no repubs voted for the stimulus package and wondered whatever happened to bipartisanship? Of course they did not mention that 11 democrats did not vote for it. I know they are not that completely clueless, just dishonest.
Then they went on to talk about the Ledbetter law. They only talked about the past supreme court decision and that Ledbetter would be present at the signing. Could I please have 1 piece of news? What doees the law change? Why is it better? It could be the best law written in years, but I have no idea from their "news" piece what it is! I know I could look it up, but I was listening to a "news" show! AAAHHHH! I hate the MFM. Sorry for the rant, had to get that off my chest.
| 966 |
right_wing2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:22:28am |
re: #942 vapig
I'd wondered just how long ago that purchase decision had been made.
| 967 |
DeafDog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:22:31am |
re: #931 Ward Cleaver
A side effect of all the copper thefts has been the reappearance of aluminum wiring. In some places it's being used in street lights, since it isn't as attractive to thieves as copper. If they're smart (which I seriously doubt), they'll wire these homes for the homeless with aluminum (but that could require changing electrical codes).
Ya know, you hit on a side issue that I've been thinking and I'll share that here. With the emphasis that the new admininstration is going to put on electric vehicles. Nevermind the straind that those cars will put on the electric grid, they also require lots of copper for the storage.
Add onto that the general inflation which is likely to come from the excessive spending....I'm thinking Copper may be a good place to invest for the next couple of years.
| 968 |
DeafDog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:23:16am |
re: #932 lawhawk
Demand passage of the Rangel Rule!
I wonder if Geitner is disappointed that he didn't get the naming rights to this?
| 969 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:23:30am |
17:10 Mitchell: Opening Gaza crossings would choke off Hamas smuggling (Reuters)
Is Mitchell that stupid or is he just getting to old? And someone should clue him in that FATAH smuggles as much weapons as Hamas. Of course Fatah smuggles less weapons since we give them so many for free anyway.
| 970 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:23:33am |
re: #950 Lincolntf
Oh jeez, do you listen to Diane Reem? I often have NPR on in the morning (I don't mind the BBC world report segment) and that lady is not only a moonbat's moonbat but she always sounds like she just chewed on a light bulb. I call her "The Bride of the Crypt Keeper".
No, I usually avoid her. I was quoting from NPR's "news" [nudge nudge] and commentary show, Morning Edition.
| 971 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:23:50am |
re: #886 Ward Cleaver
Good morning Ward - hope all is well in the Cleaver household.
Say - $18 million for housing for 500 people (disregarding for the moment the whys and wherefore's of doing that) is just fucking absurd. That's $36 grand per person! They must have slipped something in the drinking water there, I'm telling you.
| 972 |
SteveC Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:24:03am |
re: #967 DeafDog
Add onto that the general inflation which is likely to come from the excessive spending....I'm thinking Copper may be a good place to invest for the next couple of years.
Guys on TV keep telling me to put my money in GOLD!
What's this...money you speak of?
| 973 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:24:09am |
BTW, finally got to watch the Nat Geo Channel special on Air Force one... President Bush was as gracious as ever in dealing with the staff on AF One...
Of course at the end The One makes his first trip on AF One and immediately says to the pilot upon meeting him 'You look like you're right out of central casting, ha ha ha'... What an idiot...
| 974 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:24:49am |
re: #949 Ward Cleaver
If they don't know your email address, how could they send you an email asking for it?
Exactly.
| 975 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:25:33am |
re: #960 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Currant jets? That's quite a jam.
Que? Yeah - they had planned to downsize from two to one jet. Newer jet would need less maintenance. It would be more fuel efficient. They planned to sell the old jets to offset the cost of the new jet. Leaky Lehey said no - Citi Bank said fine -we'll just keep using the old gas-whores we've been using.
| 976 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:25:44am |
re: #910 OldLineTexan
It has been my experience that the two largest groups of homeless are the mentally ill and what my grandmother called "shiftless".
That's unpossible! Homelessness is caused by Republicans. Everyone knows that.
| 977 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:25:47am |
re: #965 Iron Fist
Socialism and Communism are the same thing, really. It was, after all, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. True Communists tend to use the two terms interchangably, a concept that, IIRC, goes back to Marx and Ingles themselves.
Certainly the goals of both terms are identical. An Authoritarian/totalitarian State with a monopoly on, well, everything that doles out "according to their needs" to essentially slave labor. Of course, the "needs" of the Leadership are quite a bit more luxurious than those of the proletarian masses, but don't they deserve it? It's damn hard to do nothing all day except spend other people's money.
and to foment victimization elsewhere, presumably to liberate more masses from their oppressors...thus increasing their own power, wealth and influence...
| 978 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:26:05am |
Good Morning Lizards! It's still cold and snow-blanketed in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland. I hear it's really bad in Kentucky.
Blagohair gets to testify on his own behalf today. I heard he gets a whole 90 minutes to bore and disgust us.
How are you-all and what are we talking about?
| 979 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:26:11am |
re: #971 realwest
Good morning Ward - hope all is well in the Cleaver household.
Say - $18 million for housing for 500 people (disregarding for the moment the whys and wherefore's of doing that) is just fucking absurd. That's $36 grand per person! They must have slipped something in the drinking water there, I'm telling you.
At $36k a pop, they could just buy them all new Suburbans to live in. Put enough gas in them to get them to their favorite spot to park, like under a bridge or overpass.
| 981 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:26:58am |
re: #936 Occasional Reader
Speaking of foreign policy hopeyness:
I torture myself listening to NPR, so you don't have to...
Taking a bullet for the rest of us, OR, you're a better man than I. I've broken too many radios & TV listening to crap like NPR, PBS, CBC, BBC... it's bad enough reading their websites, but the whiny condescending tone these leftist journos habitually use drives me up the wall.
| 982 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:27:02am |
re: #973 tfc3rid
BTW, finally got to watch the Nat Geo Channel special on Air Force one... President Bush was as gracious as ever in dealing with the staff on AF One...
Of course at the end The One makes his first trip on AF One and immediately says to the pilot upon meeting him 'You look like you're right out of central casting, ha ha ha'... What an idiot...
Funny, that's what I say about BamBam
/Soros the Director
| 983 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:27:26am |
re: #960 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Of course Citi also gets heat for the naming rights to Citi Field in NY. That agreement was made in 2006.
| 984 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:27:41am |
re: #943 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I just got an email from a client asking me for my email address. These are the people that will be most helped by ObamaCare.
Call them and ask for their phone number. Let us know what they say. :-)
Good Morning Lizards!
| 985 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:27:48am |
re: #969 Nevergiveup
17:10 Mitchell: Opening Gaza crossings would choke off Hamas smuggling (Reuters)
Is Mitchell that stupid or is he just getting to old? And someone should clue him in that FATAH smuggles as much weapons as Hamas. Of course Fatah smuggles less weapons since we give them so many for free anyway.
I think he forgot to take his Aricept with him.
| 986 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:28:28am |
re: #983 tfc3rid
Of course Citi also gets heat for the naming rights to Citi Field in NY. That agreement was made in 2006.
Now it will be Obama Field.
| 987 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:28:32am |
re: #969 Nevergiveup
17:10 Mitchell: Opening Gaza crossings would choke off Hamas smuggling (Reuters)
Is Mitchell that stupid or is he just getting to old? And someone should clue him in that FATAH smuggles as much weapons as Hamas. Of course Fatah smuggles less weapons since we give them so many for free anyway.
This just in: banks to open vaults in effort to choke off robberies.
| 988 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:29:09am |
re: #965 Iron Fist
the two terms interchangably, a concept that, IIRC, goes back to Marx and Ingles
You're saying the Little House on the Prairie was actually a collective farm?!
(well, Ingalls... close enough)
| 989 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:29:26am |
re: #987 Kenneth
This just in: banks to open vaults in effort to choke off robberies.
Automakers remove brake systems from cars, in an effort to decrease the number of accidents.
| 990 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:30:06am |
re: #978 ggt
Blago was unreal on with Beck in TV last night... As Glenn said to him, you are either telling the truth or the biggest lying sonofabitch ever...
| 991 |
DeafDog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:30:21am |
re: #962 Occasional Reader
I only visited Northern Ireland (Belfast) once, in 1986. It was kind of surreal. It looked like just about any medium-to-large British city... except they had the nice little policelady swathed in Kevlar who would sweep you with a metal detector before going in the grocery store, and every once in a while an armored Land Rover would drive down the street, with two soldier poking assault rifles out the back door.
I visited in 2001- after the peace accords - and it was still surreal.
We had a guide who explained the marking on the various buildings which were signals that the police should not enter.
That said, the pubs sure were fun.
| 992 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:30:26am |
re: #965 Iron Fist
Socialism and Communism are the same thing, really. It was, after all, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. True Communists tend to use the two terms interchangably, a concept that, IIRC, goes back to Marx and Ingles themselves.
Certainly the goals of both terms are identical. An Authoritarian/totalitarian State with a monopoly on, well, everything that doles out "according to their needs" to essentially slave labor. Of course, the "needs" of the Leadership are quite a bit more luxurious than those of the proletarian masses, but don't they deserve it? It's damn hard to do nothing all day except spend other people's money.
Socialism is a governmental monopoly of private industry. Communism is a govermental monopoly of personal liberties. Agreed that one is intertwined with the other, but Europe is currently pretending that their socialism is not communism - regardless of the personal freedoms they have denied to their people in implementaling these polices.
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| 993 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:30:28am |
re: #987 Kenneth
This just in: banks to open vaults in effort to choke off robberies.
Nerds to start giving themselves wedgies, thereby staving off bullies.
| 995 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:31:07am |
Good morning Lizards. Day ten, America held hostage!
(ok, out of fingers)
| 996 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:31:17am |
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
| 997 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:31:51am |
| 998 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:31:52am |
re: #990 tfc3rid
Blago was unreal on with Beck in TV last night... As Glenn said to him, you are either telling the truth or the biggest lying sonofabitch ever...
lol. You gotta like Beck. He tells it like he sees it. No pretense about being 'Fair and Balanced' there.
| 999 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:32:11am |
re: #995 opnion
Good morning Lizards. Day ten, America held hostage!
(ok, out of fingers)
Take off shoes.
| 1000 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:32:16am |
re: #990 tfc3rid
Blago was unreal on with Beck in TV last night... As Glenn said to him, you are either telling the truth or the biggest lying sonofabitch ever...
I've been doing very well in the avoidance category. I don't wish to hear him speak.
| 1001 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:32:22am |
Well I got to go. Getting tired of the ding-a-ling. Night all, stay scaly.
| 1002 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:32:32am |
re: #995 opnion
Good morning Lizards. Day ten, America held hostage!
(ok, out of fingers)
I was thinking this morning... We call thre Iranian regime extremist...
Why can't we call our present US regime extremist too?
| 1003 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:32:45am |
re: #990 tfc3rid
Blago was unreal on with Beck in TV last night... As Glenn said to him, you are either telling the truth or the biggest lying sonofabitch ever...
He also said something like "if you're not lying, then Fitzpatrick is in on a coverup. And if that's the case, I'm all for investigating Fitzpatrick".
Personally, I think Blago is a liar, and Fitzpatrick structured this whole arrair to cover up a lot more things.
| 1004 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:32:45am |
re: #1000 ggt
I've been doing very well in the avoidance category. I don't wish to hear him speak.
I won't listen to The One, either.
| 1006 |
J.S. Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:33:10am |
re: #910 OldLineTexan
Speaking of mentally ill people living out on the streets, and "We must give them a home!" A month or so ago, there was a cold snap (in Vancouver), and there was a mentally ill woman living on the streets. She had made a kind of shelter from old blankets. The police come along and insisted that she go indoors, that the weather conditions were such that she could not remain outdoors. (There were shelters with beds available, the police said they'd take her to one.) She absolutely refused (she had a phobia about being indoors). Anyway, she didn't survive...(after the police left, she apparently lit a candle to keep warm, the blankets caught fire, and she died...) It's a catch-22 situation...
| 1007 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:33:19am |
Hamas honcos really do have a sense of humor
"We want to be part of the international community," Hamas leader Ghazi Hamad told The Associated Press at the Gaza-Egypt border, (to the riotous guffaws of the audience) where he was coordinating Arab aid shipments. "I think Hamas has no interest now to increase the number of crises in Gaza or to challenge the world."
The militants appear to be in the throes of an internal power struggle* between hard-liners and pragmatists. Which group comes out on top will likely depend on who is able to garner the most benefits in postwar Gaza.
* Would that be one of those "peaceful inner struggles to be a better person" we keep hearing about? Or the other kind?
| 1009 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:33:29am |
re: #992 vapig
Socialism is a governmental monopoly of private industry. Communism is a govermental monopoly of personal liberties. Agreed that one is intertwined with the other, but Europe is currently pretending that their socialism is not communism - regardless of the personal freedoms they have denied to their people in implementaling these polices.
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collectivism is collectivism. No need to parse the different brands of collectivism. They are all bad.
| 1010 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:33:38am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
Bravo! Good work.
| 1011 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:33:56am |
re: #893 SteveC
This "Federal Health Board," as Daschle refers to his proposed behemoth, would be modeled on Great Britain's National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE). In the UK's socialized medical system, NICE is the bureaucracy responsible for determining the value and effectiveness of medical treatments and procedures. And it regularly hands down death sentences to gravely ill patients.
Ya know, as someone who is "gravely ill" with cancer, and is over 62 years of age that scares the crap out of me. As someone over 80 years of age who is in ok health (but with Type II diabetes) like my Mom, I could see where that "allocation" or rationing system could lead to violence, ya know?
Not that I'm advocating violence Stinky, just sayin...
This is a VERY personal issue NOW for a lot of Americans and it's gonna become more personal with many more Americans in the years to come.
And part of the reason there's a shortage of primary care physicians is because of Medicare which won't pay them anything like a fair fee for physicals and just general health care problems.
And I have to say that it would be cheaper (and we'd all get better medical care) if the government just paid for healthcare benefits for those who CAN'T AFFORD them - and give the government more of a rooting interest in healthcare benefits/costs. I've been advised, for example only, that pharmacuetical companies spend TWICE as much for advertising PRESCRPTION DRUGS as they do on R&D and that's just fucking WRONG.
/sorry, rant over.
| 1012 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:34:01am |
re: #989 Ward Cleaver
Automakers remove brake systems from cars, in an effort to decrease the number of accidents.
Boeing top remove wings from airliners in an effort to reduce the number of crashes.
| 1013 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:34:15am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
How very, very cool!
| 1014 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:34:36am |
re: #1004 Ward Cleaver
I won't listen to The One, either.
I had never listened to The One speak until his inaugural address... He didn't come across to me as a vibrant speaker... I though BJ Bill Clinton was much better...
| 1015 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:34:47am |
Obama in front of the camersa again! That almost never happens. Has he missed a day?
This time to sign legislation to abolish the Statute of Limitations for gender pay discrimination suits.
He jacked up the bus & dragged his "White, racist" granny out as a role model. He has no shame, but he loves cameras.
| 1016 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:35:16am |
re: #991 DeafDog
We had a guide who explained the marking on the various buildings which were signals that the police should not enter.
My sister and I took the ferry over from Scotland. This nice, middle-aged couple we met on the ferry offered to give us a lift to our B&B once we arrived. They were chatting away with us while driving, and then the wife cheerily asked, "so, are you Catholic or Protestant?" Er... um... HEY LOOK A SQUIRREL!
| 1018 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:35:29am |
re: #978 ggt
Good Morning Lizards! It's still cold and snow-blanketed in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland. I hear it's really bad in Kentucky. /blockquote>
Well, I think the goracle must've left my area as the sun in now shining. He, as usual, brought his "global warming" with him when he testified yesterday.
| 1019 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:35:32am |
re: #1010 redstateredneck
Bravo! Good work.
Jaunte did the cover art.
Great, isn't it? Did you read the descriptions?
| 1020 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:35:40am |
| 1021 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:36:10am |
re: #1011 realwest
I don't think enough people are really aware of what socialized medicine means in places like the UK and Canada...
It's playing God... It's criminal.
| 1022 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:36:16am |
| 1023 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:36:19am |
re: #891 SasquatchOnSteroids
Signal us like this then(pdf Warning) :1 if by Land
2 if by Sea
3 if by NY Times.
| 1024 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:36:31am |
And my job is to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see their children live better lives. My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect. But if you look at the track record, as you say, America was not born as a colonial power, and that the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago, there's no reason why we can't restore that. And that I think is going to be an important task.
20 to 30 yrs ago.......our president thinks that we should have the kind of relations from 20 to 30 yrs ago with the muslim world......1979 in tehran is a great place to start! everyone remember when the islamic mob took over the US embassy? 52 hostages? 444 days? yes, b. hussein obama, let's go back to the good old days/ what did we vote in to office? clearly a monster
| 1025 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:36:47am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Morning rein. Cover art is cool. I like the titles of some of the books in the Library. WACK Etiquette By Mandy sounds like it would be a good read.
| 1026 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:37:07am |
| 1027 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:37:28am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
The recipes all contain Obama approved ingredients, right?
///
| 1028 |
vxbush Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:37:37am |
Morning, gang. Supposed to be working (who isn't), but I am instead trying to get a vendor to fix a shipment to me. I have to give them credit--they are bending over backwards trying to fix things, and they are giving me a huge discount because of all the problems that have occurred--but we still have a charge showing up on my credit card that they say has cleared but hasn't. We may have a sticking point if that can't be resolved today, and I may go elsewhere to shop. I'd hate to, though; I really like this vendor.
| 1029 |
unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:38:00am |
re: #1021 tfc3rid
I don't think enough people are really aware of what socialized medicine means in places like the UK and Canada...
It's playing God... It's criminal.
Some old people are in for a real shock when they learn that the average lifespan is a lot lower under these regimes.
| 1030 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:38:18am |
re: #1019 reine.de.tout
Jaunte did the cover art.
Great, isn't it? Did you read the descriptions?
"WHACK - Etiquette by Mandy" LOL!
| 1031 |
Digital Display Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:38:20am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
The cover Art is simply Awesome! Can't wait to order the cookbook
| 1033 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:38:34am |
re: #1002 tfc3rid
I was thinking this morning... We call thre Iranian regime extremist...
Why can't we call our present US regime extremist too?
Why not? The left has been advocating regime change in this country for years now.
| 1036 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:38:46am |
re: #1027 Ford_Prefect
The recipes all contain Obama approved ingredients, right?
///
No TARP funds were used in the production of the book.
| 1037 |
Ayatollah Ghilmeini Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:38:52am |
The Unrenaissance
500 years ago, Michaelangelo began painting the Sistine Chapel. Imagine what life was like back then- an age of discovery. Architecture, art, math, painting, sculpture, metallurgy, finance, international trade, banking, writing the frontiers of human knowledge advanced almost every day. Learning and knowledge were reborn. Mankind finally began to recover the lost knowledge from Roman Times.
Today we are so advanced and capable that we take the miracle of how we got here and the Renaissance for granted. We shouldn't because, with the native Italian population set to plummet 50-60% over the next four decades, there is a very good chance the incoming new owners of Italy may decide the Sistine Chapel offends their pre-renaissance ideals and spray paint Buonarroti's masterpiece into something less offensive to their aesthetic and religious sentiments. They blew up the Buddhas of Bamiyan, the Vatican is just a bigger job.
For all their claimed love of multiculturalism and equality under the law, the emasculated socialists guiding modern Europe in its death dive are not in the least alarmed at the impending death of an entire culture in Europe. Europe's Jews are making long term plans and they don't include staying in Europe. Its a funny thing, Jews throughout our history have been at the center of civilization and its advances. Jewish contributions in the modern world have been particularly exceptional; think of Jewish contribution to American society, realize that it has had a similar impact on Europe. Soon Europe will soon not have it.
The Gaza war revealed the face of the new Europe. Europe had no problem with commies, Nazis and Islamists marching in the streets calling to slaughter the Jews. No one rose in any of the Parliaments of Europe to denounce this sick racist fascism. Silence. Stony silence. Indifference and, yes, contempt.
It's cowardice.
Forget that the forces marching will put an end to the Parliaments themselves or that the marches were an affront to everything they claim they stand for. Forget they represent the same homicidal rhetoric that preceded the Holocaust. They are afraid and do not speak. They do not admit the truth of the danger to them and their societies and they are repeating the same same mistakes of appeasement and tossing others to the crocodile praying they will somehow be untouched. Rather than speak up and stand up for productive law abiding citizens, they just hope it will all just go away. Its the same thing that happened the last time around. No one can claim they don't know what happened, no one can claim the rhetoric and the genocidal intentions are not there.
The Jews of Europe are smart. They are not waiting around for the round-up and the Jew hunts. This is already happening and it is accelerating. Some of the best patisseries in the world are now in Tel Aviv and South Florida.
Show me a society that has driven away its Jewish community and prospered. Show me a society that obliterated its own culture and flourished. You can't. Instead of imposing its rules, Europe does nothing and waves goodbye to its Jews and its future. Europe's fleeing Jewish community is not the cause of the collapse, it is the symptom of the disease that is killing Europe; the only known antibiotic is self defense. If you aren't willing to defend what you believe in, the first bully or criminal who wants to do so will run you off. You can keep retreating but add enough bullies and you run out of other streets of retreat.
If 2000 years of Jewish presence in Europe is winding down fast wind, the new Unrenaissance is just getting going. The leaders of Europe pointed their guns, not at the danger, much less the theologians and hooligans who call to destroy their societies, no, they prosecute Geert Wilders. Geert may be wrong about burning the Koran but he is not wrong about the danger of Islamic supremacists pose to European civilization. The new Europe will undo the last 1500 years of human development. Europe is doomed.
| 1038 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:38:55am |
re: #915 Bubblehead II
Could y'all tell me why WE have troops in Germany AT ALL these days? Other than the medical facilities there, we don't need bases in Germany - Russia couldn't fight it's way out of a paper bag these days unless they resort to nukes and we could still retaliate as a means of prevention.
US out of Germany (and several other nations) and the UN NOW!
| 1039 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:38:59am |
re: #1029 unreconstructed rebel
Some old people are in for a real shock when they learn that the average lifespan is a lot lower under these regimes.
I'm shocked!
| 1040 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:39:41am |
re: #1019 reine.de.tout
Jaunte did the cover art.
Great, isn't it? Did you read the descriptions?
Yep, love 'em.
| 1041 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:39:48am |
re: #1015 opnion
Great, there is another expense that businesses are going to have to pay, defending themselves against law suits from thirty years ago, leaving them with little option but to lay off more employees in order to keep from going under. Thank you very much, Mr. President. //
| 1042 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:39:51am |
| 1043 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:40:03am |
re: #1027 Ford_Prefect
Mike Bloomberg is now launching a war against salt... He wants to force food makers to reduce the amount of salt in their foods...
| 1044 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:40:03am |
re: #1011 realwest
Ya know, as someone who is "gravely ill" with cancer, and is over 62 years of age that scares the crap out of me. As someone over 80 years of age who is in ok health (but with Type II diabetes) like my Mom, I could see where that "allocation" or rationing system could lead to violence, ya know?
Not that I'm advocating violence Stinky, just sayin...This is a VERY personal issue NOW for a lot of Americans and it's gonna become more personal with many more Americans in the years to come.
And part of the reason there's a shortage of primary care physicians is because of Medicare which won't pay them anything like a fair fee for physicals and just general health care problems.
And I have to say that it would be cheaper (and we'd all get better medical care) if the government just paid for healthcare benefits for those who CAN'T AFFORD them - and give the government more of a rooting interest in healthcare benefits/costs. I've been advised, for example only, that pharmacuetical companies spend TWICE as much for advertising PRESCRPTION DRUGS as they do on R&D and that's just fucking WRONG.
/sorry, rant over.
IMHO, doctors should be at the top of the food chain. I look at the Explanation of Benefits form I receive from the insurance company and, more often than not, wonder how the doctors pay their bills. They don't make the big bucks they should to be in business. If I went thru a gazillion years of school, worked inhuman shifts in residency, was on call for 24 hours shifts AND had pay for it all, I'd want a h@ll of a lot more money. IMHO, I want a doctor who is satisfied with his income.
I blame the lawyers. . .
:0
| 1046 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:40:37am |
re: #1036 reine.de.tout
No TARP funds were used in the production of the book.
Why not? This is too big too fail!
| 1047 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:41:01am |
re: #991 DeafDog
I visited in 2001- after the peace accords - and it was still surreal.
We had a guide who explained the marking on the various buildings which were signals that the police should not enter.
That said, the pubs sure were fun.
For those people who are opposed to profiling for potential terrorists, saying that it is "racist," or "how would you like to be profiled?," I would say that if I had visited Ireland or G.B. during "the troubles," I would have certainly fit the description of a potential terrorist - a young man, Catholic, & of Irish descent.
| 1048 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:41:01am |
re: #1043 tfc3rid
Mike Bloomberg is now launching a war against salt... He wants to force food makers to reduce the amount of salt in their foods...
I'm not fond of high salt content either, but someone needs to get Bloomberg a padded cell ASAP.
| 1049 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:41:02am |
Way to go, Pierre, this will sure help the economy,
Huge crowds join French strikes
France: doing what they do best!
| 1050 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:41:08am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
Hiya, {reine]!
Thats the first thing I saw, getting on this thread - WOW!
That is just fantastic!
Thank you and everybody who has worked so hard to make this possible - and the cover is just outstanding!
Can't wait to get me lizard claws into/onto it!
Thanks!
| 1052 |
Golem Akbar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:41:11am |
Good morning Lizards, Lizardim and Lizardot.
A friend sent me Thomas Friedman's letter to King Abdullah regarding a 5-State solution. I'll link it above. Needless to say, TF is not a useful idiot, he is a useless idiot.
| 1053 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:41:18am |
re: #1021 tfc3rid
I don't think enough people are really aware of what socialized medicine means in places like the UK and Canada...
It's playing God... It's criminal.
What I have found hilarious is that while people call in to my local radio shows demanding this (it's our right!) there are also a number of Canadians who call in saying nooooooooo! If you go socialist we won't have any place left to go to get medical care!
| 1054 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:41:19am |
re: #1021 tfc3rid
I don't think enough people are really aware of what socialized medicine means in places like the UK and Canada...
It's playing God... It's criminal.
And on that subject... Mark Steyn, "Good things come to those who wait".
| 1056 |
DeafDog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:41:48am |
re: #1011 realwest
If we can use other government programs as examples, Healtcare will eventually be rationed by race, religion, sex, sexual preference, etc.
Every victim group will say - we need a this much healthcare to be the same relative to everyone else. There will be studies saying XXX victim group is underserved, so that group will get more vouchers.
It's a nice future.
| 1057 |
unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:42:16am |
re: #1042 phoenixgirl
wait till you see re enlistment numbers! you'll faint!/
Are you saying that Obama will need the draft to continue in Afganistan?
| 1059 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:42:22am |
re: #1048 Honorary Yooper
I'm not fond of high salt content either, but someone needs to get Bloomberg a padded cell ASAP.
Bloomy sees the latest polls and that his lead is about 6 points... He's trying to be innovative again...
| 1060 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:42:22am |
re: #1017 Iron Fist
Good morning to you! We are into the second week of the Obamanation that brings desolation, and he hasn't managed to gut the military or try to take up guns yet. I guess he's just a slow starter. OTOH, he has coddled the terrorists and reached out to the Islamonazis in a manner that has never been tried before. That is to say having a foreign policy that is based on "Give them everything they've asked for, and see if that'll shut them up".
We are so totally fucking hosed. I'm still having trouble that the American voting populace could be gullible enough to put the bastard (litterally as well as figuratively) in office.
hosed as in gang bang...we're getting hammered from all sides...
Remember the Alamo
| 1061 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:42:32am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
OMG! I love the cover! Who did the art? I could spend hours looking at each little detail!
| 1062 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:42:55am |
re: #1029 unreconstructed rebel
Some old people are in for a real shock when they learn that the average lifespan is a lot lower under these regimes.
Eh? Both Canada and the UK have higher average life expectancies than we do.
| 1063 |
right_wing2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:42:57am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
I've been meaning to check with you on the cookbook. Glad to see it's almost ready!
| 1064 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:43:09am |
re: #1049 Kenneth
Way to go, Pierre, this will sure help the economy,
Huge crowds join French strikes
France: doing what they do best!
That's not fair - I don't see them surrendering to any Germans.
| 1065 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:43:09am |
re: #1055 godfrey
The cookbook looks GREAT.
Did you notice your hat on one of the lizards around the table?
| 1066 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:43:09am |
| 1068 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:43:26am |
re: #1019 reine.de.tout
Jaunte did the cover art.
Great, isn't it? Did you read the descriptions?
very very COOL!.....I'm in
| 1069 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:43:33am |
re: #1061 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
OMG! I love the cover! Who did the art? I could spend hours looking at each little detail!
Jaunte did the cover art.
The post below it describes the bits and pieces of the cover.
| 1070 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:43:42am |
re: #1035 Iron Fist
A minor quibble: Democrats think that De oppresso Liber means "Oppress the Free". They don't come to liberate, but to oppress.
Freedom is slavery to them.
Very inconsistant considering they are the "if it feels good do it," generation!
| 1071 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:43:47am |
re: #1051 godfrey
So, ah, how's about that Che movie?
I haven't seen it (surprise!), but I'm sure my favorite part would be the ending.
| 1072 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:44:01am |
re: #1060 albusteve
Remember the Alamo? Listening to Glenn Beck?
| 1073 |
unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:44:01am |
re: #1062 Occasional Reader
Eh? Both Canada and the UK have higher average life expectancies than we do.
I will check that. My UK buddies are the ones saying different.
| 1074 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:44:03am |
re: #1036 reine.de.tout
No TARP funds were used in the production of the book.
Ok, major kudos to Jaunte for the cover art, and the clever working in the names of lizards on the bookshelf.
Oh, and on the bookshelf thing, you'll be hearing from my lawyer!
/ :)
| 1075 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:44:26am |
re: #1038 realwest
Could y'all tell me why WE have troops in Germany AT ALL these days? Other than the medical facilities there, we don't need bases in Germany - Russia couldn't fight it's way out of a paper bag these days unless they resort to nukes and we could still retaliate as a means of prevention.
US out of Germany (and several other nations) and the UN NOW!
We have a pretty big Air Force base there also.
| 1076 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:45:00am |
re: #1074 Walter L. Newton
Ok, major kudos to Jaunte for the cover art, and the clever working in the names of lizards on the bookshelf.
Oh, and on the bookshelf thing, you'll be hearing from my lawyer!
/ :)
Oh, gawd, Walter, please no.
My real name is the only one associated with that book, and I can't afford any problems!
| 1077 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:45:13am |
re: #1071 Occasional Reader
I haven't seen it (surprise!), but I'm sure my favorite part would be the ending.
What? Che's ascension into heaven?
| 1078 |
Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:45:14am |
re: #1011 realwest
Ya know, as someone who is "gravely ill" with cancer, and is over 62 years of age that scares the crap out of me. As someone over 80 years of age who is in ok health (but with Type II diabetes) like my Mom, I could see where that "allocation" or rationing system could lead to violence, ya know?
Not that I'm advocating violence Stinky, just sayin...This is a VERY personal issue NOW for a lot of Americans and it's gonna become more personal with many more Americans in the years to come.
And part of the reason there's a shortage of primary care physicians is because of Medicare which won't pay them anything like a fair fee for physicals and just general health care problems.
And I have to say that it would be cheaper (and we'd all get better medical care) if the government just paid for healthcare benefits for those who CAN'T AFFORD them - and give the government more of a rooting interest in healthcare benefits/costs. I've been advised, for example only, that pharmacuetical companies spend TWICE as much for advertising PRESCRPTION DRUGS as they do on R&D and that's just fucking WRONG.
/sorry, rant over.
I can see the future government job of 'Social Marker'. This persons job is to put an 'x' on patients who the bureaucrat deems not worth attempting to save. "For the greater good..."
This recession was explicitly caused by failed socialist policies. This 'stimulus' will be the death of some people.
I want to be wrong.
| 1079 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:45:25am |
re: #1049 Kenneth
Way to go, Pierre, this will sure help the economy,
Huge crowds join French strikes
France: doing what they do best!
My favorite story along those lines was from a year or two ago, when unemployed people in France went "on strike" to protest not having jobs. I'm not making this up. (Which I guess means they formed picket lines and... started working?)
| 1080 |
subsailor68 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:45:26am |
re: #1071 Occasional Reader
I haven't seen it (surprise!), but I'm sure my favorite part would be the ending.
You mean the part where Che, after three days, rises from the dead and takes over Bolivia?
| 1082 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:45:53am |
re: #1035 Iron Fist
A minor quibble: Democrats think that De oppresso Liber means "Oppress the Free". They don't come to liberate, but to oppress.
Freedom is slavery to them.
I see you need some ReEd
/
| 1084 |
godfrey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:46:05am |
re: #1065 reine.de.tout
I am, of course, delighted beyond 7 1/4 measure.
| 1085 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:46:08am |
re: #1048 Honorary Yooper
I'm not fond of high salt content either, but someone needs to get Bloomberg a padded cell ASAP.
So, how about a special wing of the new State run mental health facility. One that is reserved for former governors? Then we can open a high-security wing for former Gitmo detainees .. . .
| 1086 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:46:11am |
Morning all,
I was scanning comments of yesterday's tech note post looking for those 25 new hatchlings and eventually gave up. Does anyone know a slick trick to search for posts by new hatchlings?
Oh and turn's simple minded solution to economic recovery: quit taking so much money out of my paycheck and I'll spend more.
| 1087 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:46:28am |
re: #1071 Occasional Reader
I haven't seen it (surprise!), but I'm sure my favorite part would be the ending.
Especially the cameo appearance by the 8th Special Forces Group. Badda-bing, badda-bang!
| 1088 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:46:47am |
Now Michelle is going to get some face time, sitting down with Lilly Ledbetter for a chat in front of the cameras.
| 1089 |
unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:46:55am |
| 1090 |
godfrey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:46:59am |
re: #1071 Occasional Reader
The poor baby of a lead actor gave a press conference and got uncomfortable.
| 1091 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:47:19am |
re: #1037 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
An expat American living in the UK had a blog I used to read. He and his wife took a much anticipated trip to Vienna, where they attended a sympony concert by their famed orchestra. He noted to his wife that the audience seemed quite indifferent to this magnificant performance. She said "No Jews here anymore".
| 1092 |
3 wood Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:47:39am |
New-home sales fall to record low in Dec.
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Sales of new homes plummeted to a record low in December, the Commerce Department estimated Thursday.
Sales fell 14.7% in December to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 331,000. This is the lowest level since the series began in 1963.
Sales were weaker than the 390,000 annualized pace expected by economists surveyed by MarketWatch. In addition, sales in November were much lower.
Earlier this week, the National Association of Realtors reported a pickup in existing home sales in December as prices plunged. This raised hopes that the sector might be stabilizing.
But most economists expect home sales to fall further, at least temporarily, because of the credit crunch.
The government estimates that 482,000 new homes were sold in 2008. This is 37.9% below the 776,000 homes sold in 2007, a record decline.
Inventories of unsold homes have fallen every month this year, and fell 10% in December. But because of the slow sales pace, the inventory represented 12.9 months supply, up from 12.5 months in November.
Translation: The number of unsold homes has fallen, but the buying pace is so slow (due partially to the credit crunch) that the time span this represents has lengthened from 12.5 months of supply to 12.9 months.
| 1093 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:47:45am |
re: #995 opnion
Good morning Lizards. Day ten, America held hostage!
(ok, out of fingers)
Time to take off the shoes ...
Can't believe how much trouble we're in already, and only 10 days!
| 1094 |
vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:47:49am |
re: #1062 Occasional Reader
Eh? Both Canada and the UK have higher average life expectancies than we do.
Oh puh-leese! Probably only the ones who refuse to use their doctors or who have enough money to go elsewhere!
| 1095 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:47:57am |
re: #1076 reine.de.tout
Oh, gawd, Walter, please no.
My real name is the only one associated with that book, and I can't afford any problems!
Er, you know I was kidding. I'll take free PR any way I can get it.
| 1096 |
VioletTiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:47:58am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
CUTE!
Can't wait to get a copy. Kudos to all who worked so hard on it. Would love to contribute to Vol. 2.
| 1097 |
Golem Akbar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:47:58am |
re: #1051 godfrey
So, ah, how's about that Che movie?
I still can't get over a movie winning so many awards this is about a beverage drink: Milk. [reference Red Eye]
| 1099 |
Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:48:46am |
re: #1037 Ayatollah Ghilmeini
You need to print your comments out and bind them in a book. I'd buy it.
| 1100 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:48:54am |
re: #1069 reine.de.tout
Jaunte did the cover art.
The post below it describes the bits and pieces of the cover.
Why no bottle of beer with a monkey on it? :(
| 1101 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:48:56am |
re: #1079 Occasional Reader
My favorite story along those lines was from a year or two ago, when unemployed people in France went "on strike" to protest not having jobs. I'm not making this up. (Which I guess means they formed picket lines and... started working?)
LOL! And why didn't they have jobs? Well, because a month before French unions went on strike to prevent reforms which would have opened up the labour market and made it easier for employers to hire people.
| 1102 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:49:09am |
re: #1049 Kenneth
Way to go, Pierre, this will sure help the economy,
Maybe this is what we need here in the US for our "stimulus package"; a massive infusion of annoying mimes?
| 1103 |
Spare O'Lake Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:49:41am |
re: #924 realwest
For my part anyone (Christian, Jew, Muslim, Bhuddist, whatever) is perfectly entitled to hold whatever religious beliefs they want or need, just so long as they don't try to shove their beliefs down my throat.
Science is another matter entirely. If some people feel a compulsion, religious or otherwise, to pervert or discredit well-established scientific beliefs then they are the intellectual enemy, and they need to be kept from purveying their nonsense in the public schools.
In this sense, there is a war going on in society - and it is being reflected on some of the LGF threads. For some this is stimulating; for others it is hurtful.
| 1104 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:49:47am |
re: #942 vapig
Good morning. And with all due respect "The government, however, is dealing in totalitarianism and now feels they can dictate what this once private company does. To the detrimate of us all."
When a private company comes to us, the taxpayers to bail them out of what were clearly unwise business practices and where said private companies failure could hurt millions and millions of people, then I do think the government has the right, nay the obligation, to examine just how this once private business does business. If that private business wants OUR money, they will have to LISTEN TO US on how to spend it. Period.
That they've previously stocked their Board of Directors with a bunch of yes men and women who DIDN'T question/stop their foolish business practices indicates that SOMEONE ought to be watching the damn store.
I'm pretty nearly as fed up with these failed big businesses as I am with the government. WTF, Merrill Lynch loses BILLIONS of dollars and their CEO decides to spend $1.5 million bucks redecorating his office and paying BONUSES to the geniuses at Merrill that ran it into the ground pisses me off no end.
| 1105 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:49:47am |
re: #1092 3 wood
New-home sales fall to record low in Dec.
Translation: The number of unsold homes has fallen, but the buying pace is so slow (due partially to the credit crunch) that the time span this represents has lengthened from 12.5 months of supply to 12.9 months.
Thanks for the translation, turns out the house for sale across the street from mine has been on the market for nearly a year now so I can believe those stats.
| 1106 |
DeafDog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:49:55am |
re: #1043 tfc3rid
Mike Bloomberg is now launching a war against salt... He wants to force food makers to reduce the amount of salt in their foods...
Serious?
| 1107 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:50:12am |
re: #1047 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I was there in the 70s during the worst part of the troubles. No one was exempt from random searches. One American I knew was detained for taking pics of the British soldiers. Even had a weapon pointed at my head while driving across the border into Ireland.They were very touchy about cars with NI tags.When the soldier saw my American passport he laughed saying I should have told him I was a Yank.The Antrim Coast is one of the most beautiful drives on the planet.
| 1108 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:50:18am |
re: #1096 VioletTiger
CUTE!
Can't wait to get a copy. Kudos to all who worked so hard on it. Would love to contribute to Vol. 2.
argh!
Somebody else will have to handle Vol 2!
| 1109 |
VegasRick Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:50:32am |
re: #1071 Occasional Reader
I haven't seen it (surprise!), but I'm sure my favorite part would be the ending.
Che gets it in the end.
| 1110 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:50:42am |
re: #1049 Kenneth
Way to go, Pierre, this will sure help the economy,
Huge crowds join French strikes
France: doing what they do best!
Well, at least the people are doing something to make their politicians listen, instead of just moaning amongst themselves!
I wish proper workers here would take to the streets and show Gord that he's had it, in the accepted, well-mannered way, rather than leave the street to the hamasthugs and moonbats, to damage windows and scream from podiums, in antisemitic hatred.
| 1111 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:50:51am |
re: #1093 turn
Time to take off the shoes ...
Can't believe how much trouble we're in already, and only 10 days!
BHO is multi-tasking efing up America.
I do hope that the Senate Republicans hold as firm today on the Stimulus vote as the House did yesterday. I doubt it though , I see Susan Collins & Olympia Snow crossing over & maybe McCain.
| 1112 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:50:57am |
re: #1098 Iron Fist
He's anti-American for sure. You have to wonder if he's been freebasing again if he's fucked up enough to say that we had better relations with the Mohammedans during the Carter Administration. Maybe he is confusing "good" relations with American Weakness.
Isn't that a comforting thought...
yes, i'll sleep so much better tonite!/
| 1113 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:51:01am |
re: #1100 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Why no bottle of beer with a monkey on it? :(
Well, there is a bottle of chimay ale.
Yochanan's fave.
That won't do?
| 1114 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:51:16am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
That's awesome!
Did any of my recipes make the final cut?
| 1115 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:51:39am |
re: #1076 reine.de.tout
Oh, gawd, Walter, please no.
My real name is the only one associated with that book, and I can't afford any problems!
We've got plenty of lawyers around here whom I'm sure would defend you pro bono.
| 1116 |
Golem Akbar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:51:43am |
re: #1057 unreconstructed rebel
Are you saying that Obama will need the draft to continue in Afganistan?
Obama is very smart (schmart). He has figured out that the Depression of the 30's and 40's did not end because of government programs, but because of WWII. If he can draft 30 - 40 million people (into the military or his "civilian corps"), that'll solve the unemployment problems, and probably create something akin to Hitler's Youth Corps, but somewhat more benign.
| 1118 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:52:02am |
re: #1090 godfrey
The poor baby of a lead actor gave a press conference and got uncomfortable.
I didn't see that. Er, what made him uncomfortable? Being in a movie that glorifies a murderous, totalitarian thug? [Hey, I can dream, can't I?]
It's a shame; I think Del Toro is a gifted actor.
| 1119 |
SurferDoc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:52:06am |
re: #1102 Occasional Reader
Maybe this is what we need here in the US for our "stimulus package"; a massive infusion of annoying mimes?
A mime is a terrible thing to waste.
/couldn't stop myself
| 1120 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:52:11am |
re: #951 HoosierHoops
Hi there Hoops! If you enjoy the ID threads and the
geek tech threads, good for you. But if you didn't would you tell Charles not to have them?!?
I didn't think so.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:52:12am |
re: #1114 Alouette
That's awesome!
Did any of my recipes make the final cut?
All of them, of course!
Unless one of 'em got mixed up in one of my mind boggles that happened on occasion along the way and got left out by mistake.
| 1122 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:52:22am |
| 1123 |
vxbush Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:52:40am |
re: #1036 reine.de.tout
No TARP funds were used in the production of the book.
Hey, dear! How is your hand?
| 1124 |
DeafDog Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:53:21am |
re: #1047 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
For those people who are opposed to profiling for potential terrorists, saying that it is "racist," or "how would you like to be profiled?," I would say that if I had visited Ireland or G.B. during "the troubles," I would have certainly fit the description of a potential terrorist - a young man, Catholic, & of Irish descent.
Well, In No. Ireland, it depends what street you were on...literally. On one street you were a terrorist, but the next street over you were a freedom fighter. Go down the black and your a terrorist again.
In the GWOT, it's pretty much all generated from the ME. It's slightly different profiling.
| 1126 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:53:37am |
re: #1111 opnion
BHO is multi-tasking efing up America.
I do hope that the Senate Republicans hold as firm today on the Stimulus vote as the House did yesterday. I doubt it though , I see Susan Collins & Olympia Snow crossing over & maybe McCain.
You're following this closer than me but I would hope nobody on the right crosses over (well I'm lumping McCain in there). I was happy the House held firm and I was quite surprised 11 dems didn't go with the one.
| 1127 |
vxbush Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:53:50am |
re: #1121 reine.de.tout
All of them, of course!
Unless one of 'em got mixed up in one of my mind boggles that happened on occasion along the way and got left out by mistake.
Or she can blame it on me, as I was helping with editing....
| 1128 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:54:14am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
"IT'S A COOKBOOK!" (Why, yes, it is.)
Nice work, reine!
| 1129 |
Macker Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:54:34am |
re: #1111 opnion
BHO is multi-tasking efing up America.
I do hope that the Senate Republicans hold as firm today on the Stimulus vote as the House did yesterday. I doubt it though , I see Susan Collins & Olympia Snow crossing over & maybe McCain.
If that son of a bitch votes for it, I'll be writing JD Hayworth and politely request that he run against McCain in 2010!
| 1130 |
right_wing2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:54:47am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
Awesome cover art!
| 1131 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:54:50am |
re: #1118 Occasional Reader
I didn't see that. Er, what made him uncomfortable? Being in a movie that glorifies a murderous, totalitarian thug? [Hey, I can dream, can't I?]
It's a shame; I think Del Toro is a gifted actor.
A reporter asked him a question about Che's crimes, which caused Del Toro to stomp off. An artist's talent is independent of his ethics or conscience.
| 1132 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:55:21am |
re: #1123 vxbush
Hey, dear! How is your hand?
I cancelled the surgery.
There was a full 6 weeks between the time I saw the doc and the day of the surgery - they couldn't get straight what sort of pre-op clearance I needed, and 2 days ago called me, in a panic, because I didn't do everything I needed to do, even though I had specifically ASKED THEM TWICE if I needed to get a full clearance - anyhow, I got distressed over what I saw as their failure to pay sufficient attention to detail and my needs, and cancelled.
| 1133 |
godfrey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:55:21am |
re: #1122 Kenneth
Think of how much more annoying a mime would be if he spoke.
| 1134 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:56:09am |
re: #1131 Kenneth
A reporter asked him a question about Che's crimes, which caused Del Toro to stomp off. An artist's talent is independent of his ethics or conscience.
Why do the most gifted artists have the most f*cked-up ideas about the world?
| 1135 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:56:22am |
re: #1128 Occasional Reader
"IT'S A COOKBOOK!" (Why, yes, it is.)
Nice work, reine!
Jaunte did the cover.
FlakMusic handled the files and uploading - when I get the preview copy I ordered, and am satisfied with the product, I'll put up a link for purchase.
| 1137 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:56:37am |
re: #1043 tfc3rid
Mike Bloomberg is now launching a war against salt... He wants to force food makers to reduce the amount of salt in their foods...
All Bloomberg needs to do is to put on a dress and apron, and hold a wooden spoon.
/to whack us with
| 1138 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:56:38am |
re: #961 jwb7605Yes it was an election between a COMMIE and a RINO and I still wish the RINO had won.
It would take probably at least a decade to create a political party that was nationwide in scope and could articulate single messages - and that's too long to allow the commies to run this country. We can deal with the domestic aspects of Obama; his foreign policy could kill us all.
If you don't see that difference, I don't know what else to say to you.
| 1139 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:56:47am |
re: #1110 yma o hyd
Well, at least the people are doing something to make their politicians listen, instead of just moaning amongst themselves!
I wish proper workers here would take to the streets and show Gord that he's had it, in the accepted, well-mannered way, rather than leave the street to the hamasthugs and moonbats, to damage windows and scream from podiums, in antisemitic hatred.
It's a tradition. Four or five years ago, I don't remember, the ex-wife and I board our flight from CDG to Frankfort and I fell asleep as soon as I hit the seat. And hour and a half later, I wake and we are still sitting on the tarmac. The air traffic controllers at Orly went on strike during peak hours, and they stopped all Paris inbound and outbound flights.
I went back to sleep.
| 1140 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:57:22am |
re: #1118 Occasional Reader
I didn't see that. Er, what made him uncomfortable? Being in a movie that glorifies a murderous, totalitarian thug? [Hey, I can dream, can't I?]
It's a shame; I think Del Toro is a gifted actor.
No, he didn't like the questions a certain reporter was asking him about Che.
| 1141 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:57:38am |
re: #1127 vxbush
Or she can blame it on me, as I was helping with editing....
No, you did a great job!
No matter how hard I tried to keep things in some semblance of order, well, things happened.
| 1142 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:57:51am |
re: #1131 Kenneth
A reporter asked him a question about Che's crimes, which caused Del Toro to stomp off. An artist's talent is independent of his ethics or conscience.
I thought I saw a pig whoosh by my 8th floor window.
| 1143 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:58:22am |
re: #1135 reine.de.tout
Jaunte did the cover.
FlakMusic handled the files and uploading - when I get the preview copy I ordered, and am satisfied with the product, I'll put up a link for purchase.
Where is the purchase price going? Just want to know. We're all capitalist, so where ever is fine, just interested.
| 1144 |
VioletTiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:58:46am |
re: #1108 reine.de.tout
argh!
Somebody else will have to handle Vol 2!
I know it must have been a hell of a lot of work. I am actually doing one for another group on Bookemon and it is almost done, but driving me crazy. Kudos for all of your hard work.
| 1145 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:58:51am |
re: #1135 reine.de.tout
Jaunte did the cover.
FlakMusic handled the files and uploading - when I get the preview copy I ordered, and am satisfied with the product, I'll put up a link for purchase.
Hi Reine,
I didn't know you were working on that, very nice. Can't wait to order a copy.
| 1146 |
subsailor68 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:58:56am |
re: #1134 ggt
Why do the most gifted artists have the most f*cked-up ideas about the world?
It's just a theory from my time in L.A. in the industry, but it may have to do with the "method" (made famous by Brando). The actor "becomes" the character, by accepting what the character "is". Particularly in bio-pics, there is a danger of finishing the role completely tainted by the empathy used in developing the character.
Kind of explains Sean Penn in "I am Sam".
;-)
| 1147 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:59:07am |
re: #1126 turn
You're following this closer than me but I would hope nobody on the right crosses over (well I'm lumping McCain in there). I was happy the House held firm and I was quite surprised 11 dems didn't go with the one.
The 11 Democrats voting with the Republicans was a surprise.
McCain said that he can't vote for the bill as is. I bet that he finds a reason to vote for it. He has a need to feel the love from the Dem's & the MSM
| 1148 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:59:09am |
Nuclear Checkout [Mark Steyn]
I think California may be past the point of no return:
Berkeley's public library will face a showdown with the city's Peace and Justice Commission tonight over whether a service contract for the book check-out system violates the city's nuclear-free ordinance.
How's that for an opening? In the entire history of civilization, has any human society so ordered its affairs that it would seem entirely normal to combine those words in that order in a single sentence?
And it gets better:
3M, a company with operations in 60 countries, refused to sign Berkeley's nuclear-free disclosure form as required by the Nuclear Free Berkeley Act passed by voters in 1986.As a result, the library's self-checkout machines have not been serviced in about six months. Library officials say 3M is the only company authorized by the manufacturer to fix the machines, which were purchased in 2004.
The library asked the Peace and Justice Commission for a waiver, but at its Jan. 5 meeting the commission voted 7-1, with two abstentions, to reject the request... "The act is meant to be a blow against nuclear war. We're serious about upholding that."
The way things are going it won't be necessary to nuke the Bay Area.
| 1151 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:59:51am |
re: #1118 Occasional Reader
I didn't see that. Er, what made him uncomfortable? Being in a movie that glorifies a murderous, totalitarian thug? [Hey, I can dream, can't I?]
It's a shame; I think Del Toro is a gifted actor.
He gave it to the Washington Times. They put it on the front page, below the fold. They challenged his 'reformer' view of Che. He said he was getting uncomfortable and walked out.
| 1152 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:59:52am |
who could forget Pan Am flight 103 from 20yrs ago? another great time for muslim and US relations.....good times!/ yes mr. president, let's get back to that!/
| 1154 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:00:06am |
re: #1143 Walter L. Newton
Where is the purchase price going? Just want to know. We're all capitalist, so where ever is fine, just interested.
$14.90, plus shipping which is another $5 or so, if you take the least expensive shipping.
That gives the "fund" a "profit" of $5.25 per book - and profits will be split equally between LGF tip jar and Soldier's Angels.
I will be posting reports at the blog on the amounts collected and disbursed once we get started.
| 1156 |
WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:00:31am |
re: #1122 Kenneth
The only thing I have to say about that is:
| 1157 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:01:17am |
re: #1149 Iron Fist
China is lending it to us. We are owned by them for the next 50 plus years.
| 1158 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:01:24am |
re: #1138 realwest
Yes it was an election between a COMMIE and a RINO and I still wish the RINO had won.
It would take probably at least a decade to create a political party that was nationwide in scope and could articulate single messages - and that's too long to allow the commies to run this country. We can deal with the domestic aspects of Obama; his foreign policy could kill us all.
If you don't see that difference, I don't know what else to say to you.
"My friends", I did not like our RINO candidate (Mandy I voted for him), but at least he would not have been on Al Arabyia suckin up.
| 1161 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:01:55am |
re: #1132 reine.de.tout
I cancelled the surgery.
There was a full 6 weeks between the time I saw the doc and the day of the surgery - they couldn't get straight what sort of pre-op clearance I needed, and 2 days ago called me, in a panic, because I didn't do everything I needed to do, even though I had specifically ASKED THEM TWICE if I needed to get a full clearance - anyhow, I got distressed over what I saw as their failure to pay sufficient attention to detail and my needs, and cancelled.
Think of how it will be with nationalized health care.
| 1162 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:02:14am |
re: #1038 realwest
I think that the only reason why we have still them there as well as having them stationed on Okinawa is for projection of force. The same reason why we keep Carrier battle groups deployed in the ME.
| 1163 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:02:15am |
re: #1146 subsailor68
It's just a theory from my time in L.A. in the industry, but it may have to do with the "method" (made famous by Brando). The actor "becomes" the character, by accepting what the character "is". Particularly in bio-pics, there is a danger of finishing the role completely tainted by the empathy used in developing the character.
Kind of explains Sean Penn in "I am Sam".
;-)
As an Art Major myself, I understand that whole "living in a left brain" world concept. I think artists seem so many different "angles" on the world and life that they have a hard time accepting that there may actually be just one or two that work. Artists are also always looking for something "new" or "novel" to create. The old (think John McCain), just is too "not cool" for them to accept.
| 1164 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:02:22am |
re: #1147 opnion
The 11 Democrats voting with the Republicans was a surprise.
McCain said that he can't vote for the bill as is. I bet that he finds a reason to vote for it. He has a need to feel the love from the Dem's & the MSM
I'll have to check how many of those 11 are first-termers.
PeloReid may have given them a green light to oppose it, but who knows...
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subsailor68 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:02:34am |
re: #1133 godfrey
Think of how much more annoying a mime would be if he spoke.
LOL! However, in Mel Brooks' "Silent Movie", only one person actually spoke:
Marcel Marceau.
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Golem Akbar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:02:45am |
re: #1149 Iron Fist
The problem is (and I've not seen anything positive in this area from either party) how are we going to pay for it? Raising taxes during a Recession isn't a good way to stimulate the economy, but they sure don't have the funds for this thing factored into the existing budget. The only way that I see them being able to really pay for this is by printing the money.
Say hello to my
little friendhigh inflation.
It's one of the many problems. I can't get passed the ethical problems of a universal draft, but the financial hurdles are huge.
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Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:02:54am |
re: #736 Sharmuta
Wow. You're worse than I thought you were. Outrageous is a good word for you. Pipe down, missy, you're not my superior in any way, shape or form.
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Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:03:01am |
French Frigate FLOREAL Captures Nine More Pirates
Mais ois! The glorious French navy, in their first naval victory since sinking the Rainbow warrior, has captured a leaky dingy and a handful illiterate pirates. Vive la Fance!
Pictures included!
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:03:02am |
re: #1152 phoenixgirl
Your President basically just placed his nuts on the Iranian guillotine, and even clarified which blade he prefers.
It is so insane, he is doing so much damage to America and the world. The only way I have managed to keep myself calm is by repeating my new mantra: BEFORE REAGAN THERE WAS CARTER.
| 1171 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:03:03am |
re: #1148 Kenneth
3M, a company with operations in 60 countries, refused to sign Berkeley's nuclear-free disclosure form
Wow.
Are the good [cough] people of Berkeley aware that Boeing manufactures aircraft that can carry nuclear weapons? And that Airbus is associated with the European defense industry that does the same? So, no airplanes for you, Berkelyites. You'll have to walk to Tibet to find spiritual awakening.
| 1172 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:03:14am |
re: #1146 subsailor68
It's just a theory from my time in L.A. in the industry, but it may have to do with the "method" (made famous by Brando). The actor "becomes" the character, by accepting what the character "is". Particularly in bio-pics, there is a danger of finishing the role completely tainted by the empathy used in developing the character.
Kind of explains Sean Penn in "I am Sam".
;-)
Called "method" acting. Developed by Constantin Stanislavski and became big with Lee Strausberg... where Brando studied.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 1173 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:03:14am |
1983 was a great year in muslim American relations......the US Embassy in lebanon.....yes, mr. president we must rush to get back to the good old days!/
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tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:03:34am |
re: #1164 SasquatchOnSteroids
I'll have to check how many of those 11 are first-termers.
PeloReid may have given them a green light to oppose it, but who knows...
I think most are the Blue Dog Dems from traditionally more conservative districts...
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subsailor68 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:03:59am |
re: #1163 ggt
As an Art Major myself, I understand that whole "living in a left brain" world concept. I think artists seem so many different "angles" on the world and life that they have a hard time accepting that there may actually be just one or two that work. Artists are also always looking for something "new" or "novel" to create. The old (think John McCain), just is too "not cool" for them to accept.
Good post! I accept your theory.
:-)
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:04:18am |
re: #1139 Walter L. Newton
It's a tradition. Four or five years ago, I don't remember, the ex-wife and I board our flight from CDG to Frankfort and I fell asleep as soon as I hit the seat. And hour and a half later, I wake and we are still sitting on the tarmac. The air traffic controllers at Orly went on strike during peak hours, and they stopped all Paris inbound and outbound flights.
I went back to sleep.
Yep - the French love demonstrating at the drop of a har.
Few years back, their fishermen blockaded Le Havre and all the other Channle ports.
No ferries to great Britain, huge queues of lorries, fresh food going to waste, thousands of pissed-off Brits and other Europeans whose holiday plans were wrecked - no matter.
Same with French farmers - they don't like something, they drive their tractors to Paris and burn a few tyres ...
Ok - its not really funny if one's involved, involuntarily, in one such demo, and there are other ways of getting what one wants, but I confess I do like seeing people sticking it to their politicians when they refuse to do what the people want.
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subsailor68 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:04:23am |
re: #1172 Walter L. Newton
Called "method" acting. Developed by Constantin Stanislavski and became big with Lee Strausberg... where Brando studied.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Yep, that's the one!
| 1178 |
godfrey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:04:31am |
re: #1149 Iron Fist
The goal has been to change the "unipolar" world into a "multipolar" world that can be more easily bullied around. Eventually, all the multipoles will clamor for a more encompassing unipole (the World State) to bring order to chaos. As long as the USA was the de facto unipole, the leaders of the new world state didn't stand much of a chance.
Now, in taking down the USA, they stand a much better chance.
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:04:31am |
re: #1024 phoenixgirl
30 years ago was WELCOME AYATOLLAH in Iran.
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phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:04:49am |
he needs to be on a security watch list.....
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turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:04:50am |
re: #1147 opnion
The 11 Democrats voting with the Republicans was a surprise.
McCain said that he can't vote for the bill as is. I bet that he finds a reason to vote for it. He has a need to feel the love from the Dem's & the MSM
I heard on the news last night that the "stimulus" plan costs us taxpayers something like $200k per job created. That's just insane. I say take less out of my check and I'll spend it. I rather stimulated the economy by buying myself something rather than pay for somebody else to get a job.
| 1182 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:04:53am |
re: #795 Sharmuta
Just trying to keep up with you. Notice you've dinged me no matter what I said. Now that's mighty level headed/fair minded of you lil missy.
| 1183 |
vxbush Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:04:57am |
re: #1132 reine.de.tout
I cancelled the surgery.
There was a full 6 weeks between the time I saw the doc and the day of the surgery - they couldn't get straight what sort of pre-op clearance I needed, and 2 days ago called me, in a panic, because I didn't do everything I needed to do, even though I had specifically ASKED THEM TWICE if I needed to get a full clearance - anyhow, I got distressed over what I saw as their failure to pay sufficient attention to detail and my needs, and cancelled.
Yikes! Yes, a good thing to cancel, if they didn't have their ducks in a row. Aiyyee! I've had problems with pre-authorizations before, so I totally understand where you're coming from.
Are you planning to reschedule?
| 1184 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:05:40am |
re: #1160 redstateredneck
Two people learned to read and write because of him.
Yep, let's give him pass for that.
/gah
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VioletTiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:05:41am |
re: #1111 opnion
BHO is multi-tasking efing up America.
I do hope that the Senate Republicans hold as firm today on the Stimulus vote as the House did yesterday. I doubt it though , I see Susan Collins & Olympia Snow crossing over & maybe McCain.
I was really happy to see this outcome as well. If the Senate can hold out it leaves Obama holding the bag for this pork filled monstrosity. I'm HOPING.
| 1186 |
Golem Akbar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:05:42am |
re: #1148 Kenneth
Nuclear Checkout [Mark Steyn]
I seem to recall the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear labratory and something about it being affiliated with UC Berkeley. /But I could be wrong.
| 1187 |
bosforus Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:05:51am |
re: #1148 Kenneth
Nuclear Checkout [Mark Steyn]
So they have a contract that says "if you don't sign our Nuclear Free Berkley Act you don't have to service our checkout equipment"?
| 1190 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:05:59am |
re: #1179 WriterMom
30 years ago was WELCOME AYATOLLAH in Iran.
re: #1024 phoenixgirl
20 to 30 yrs ago.......our president thinks that we should have the kind of relations from 20 to 30 yrs ago with the muslim world......1979 in tehran is a great place to start! everyone remember when the islamic mob took over the US embassy? 52 hostages? 444 days? yes, b. hussein obama, let's go back to the good old days/ what did we vote in to office? clearly a monster
| 1191 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:06:03am |
re: #1146 subsailor68
It's just a theory from my time in L.A. in the industry, but it may have to do with the "method" (made famous by Brando). The actor "becomes" the character, by accepting what the character "is". Particularly in bio-pics, there is a danger of finishing the role completely tainted by the empathy used in developing the character.
Kind of explains Sean Penn in "I am Sam".
;-)
I've heard that's what happened to Michael Keaton, and he knows it.
Same sort of thing from Jack Nicholson, commenting about Heath Ledger.
| 1192 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:06:07am |
re: #1162 Bubblehead II
I think that the only reason why we have still them there as well as having them stationed on Okinawa is for projection of force. The same reason why we keep Carrier battle groups deployed in the ME.
I heard this morning that Iceland may want to pull out of NATO - a big strategic loss for us.
| 1193 |
Golem Akbar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:06:18am |
re: #1170 WriterMom
Your President basically just placed his nuts on the Iranian guillotine, and even clarified which blade he prefers.
It is so insane, he is doing so much damage to America and the world. The only way I have managed to keep myself calm is by repeating my new mantra: BEFORE REAGAN THERE WAS CARTER.
WM the Wise!
| 1194 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:06:22am |
re: #1021 tfc3rid"It's playing God... It's criminal."
AND if it comes to pass it could very well be the death of me and mom. And NO I'm not joking nor using hypebole here, I'm serious.And I DO have something of a track record (albeit almost 40 years ago) of not exactly taking kindly to people trying to kill me. Or mine.
| 1195 |
Miss Trixie Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:06:59am |
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Home today with a very sore throat and a case of the sneezies.
*sniffle*
{realwest} Morning luv *air smoochie* Don't want to give you my bug.
{reine} It looks absolutely MAHHHHHHHVELOUS! Good job Jaunte on the artwork. :D
*wah-CHOOOOOO*
*honk*
*sniffle*
| 1196 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:07:00am |
re: #1170 WriterMom
Your President basically just placed his nuts on the Iranian guillotine, and even clarified which blade he prefers.
It is so insane, he is doing so much damage to America and the world. The only way I have managed to keep myself calm is by repeating my new mantra: BEFORE REAGAN THERE WAS CARTER.
Except Iran will probably have nuclear weapons in less than 4 years.
And 0bama is drafting a conciliatory letter to Iran.
Diplomats quoted by the paper said the letter, which has seen several drafts so far, would aim to change the US tone towards Iran and offer a different stance on relations between the nations. In it, Obama would seek to assure Teheran that the US is not interested in toppling the Islamic regime, but only to see a change in its conduct.
0strichbama. His head is stuck somewhere so deep he can't see.
| 1197 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:07:00am |
With subtitles this time....
Hamas TV Bunny Assud Killed
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subsailor68 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:07:04am |
re: #1191 jwb7605
I've heard that's what happened to Michael Keaton, and he knows it.
Same sort of thing from Jack Nicholson, commenting about Heath Ledger.
I hadn't heard that about Michael Keaton, but it doesn't surprise me.
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godfrey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:07:06am |
re: #1171 Occasional Reader
Facts and logic will only confuse them. Why can't you let them enjoy their Hemp Paradise?
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notutopia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:07:33am |
re: #1019 reine.de.tout
The cover art by Jaunte is superb!
It is a perfect depiction of the LGF meal. I can recognize quite a few of our LGF family members around the table from their caricatures and avatars.
The books and title inscriptions, clue by 4 within arms reach of the table, serving of le trolle on the platter, down to the pink bow on your tail.
I can't wait to get a copy.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:07:49am |
re: #1172 Walter L. Newton
Called "method" acting.
That explains why I'm not getting any callbacks... I thought it was methodist acting. I keep trying to pretend I'm John Wesley.
| 1202 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:08:16am |
re: #1197 Killgore Trout
killgore, i need your help. i must have missed the class on how to get the special liveleak and youtube buttons in the posts....how do i do that?
| 1203 |
WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:08:17am |
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:08:21am |
re: #1164 SasquatchOnSteroids
It's geographical. I suspect many of these folks are in classically GOP districts (like Shuler), which means that they're more fiscally conservative. They had to vote that way or else face wrath in 2010.
Those Democrats who voted against:
Minnick, Shuler, Boyd, Bright, Cooper, Ellsworth, Kratovil, Kanjorski, Griffith, Peterson, and Taylor.
| 1205 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:08:22am |
re: #1029 unreconstructed rebel "Some old people are in for a real shock when they learn that the average lifespan is a lot lower under these regimes." So are some politicians and bureaucrats.
| 1206 |
godfrey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:08:42am |
re: #1201 Occasional Reader
Dude, I feel for you. My Rhythm Method of acting hasn't borne fruit, either.
| 1207 |
Syrah Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:08:44am |
re: #1153 taxfreekiller
Keep in mind.
IT IS NOT A STIMULUS BILL, IT IS JUST THE LARGEST SPENDING BILL EVER
THEY USE THE WORD STIMULUS TO DISTRACT YOU FROM THE TRUTH
IN 2010 WE THE PEOPLE CAN ELECT REAL AMERICANS, FORCE THE REPUBLICANS TO BECOME REAL AMERICANS AND VOTE EVERY LAST CENT
OF THIS BULL SHIT OUT, DE-FUND THIS BULL SHIT 100%.TIME IS ON OUR SIDE, NUMBER ONE... KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY
TFK 2012!
| 1208 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:08:47am |
re: #1197 Killgore Trout
With subtitles this time....
Hamas TV Bunny Assud Killed[Video]
Jimmy Carter will be pleased.
| 1209 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:08:48am |
re: #1175 subsailor68
Good post! I accept your theory.
:-)
Artists are basically crazy.
You gleaned that did you?
lol
| 1210 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:09:09am |
re: #1177 subsailor68
Yep, that's the one!
I use a modified version of that when I am playing a role in a show (which is not that often anymore, I'm too lazy). And what I mean by that is I can break the character after the show, a lot of method people practically stay in character 24 hours a day, or the at least shut down between performances.
On the other side, I hate stage managing method people. It's not like you are dealing with a coworker, it's like you are dealing with the character itself.
It's a trade off. The process works really well, for some actors, but it can affect the personality of the person when they are off-work.
| 1212 |
Macker Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:09:27am |
re: #1200 notutopia
The cover art by Jaunte is superb!
It is a perfect depiction of the LGF meal. I can recognize quite a few of our LGF family members around the table from their caricatures and avatars.
The books and title inscriptions, clue by 4 within arms reach of the table, serving of le trolle on the platter, down to the pink bow on your tail.
I can't wait to get a copy.
What the frak is this thing you're talking about?
| 1213 |
robdouth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:09:29am |
If the seemingly inevitable and unthinkable were to happen and Obama were to allow another massive terrorist attack, who would be the front runner in the GOP? I would think with the massive swing towards a need for security that the nomination would be Giuliani's to lose.
| 1214 |
Buck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:09:31am |
re: #32 logboy
Logboy, thank you for your service and sacrifice for your country.
| 1215 |
Golem Akbar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:09:33am |
re: #1196 Kosh's Shadow
0strichbama. His head is stuck somewhere so deep he can't see.
And I was think that that after the fall of communism in Europe there would not be any battles for us to fight. pish tosh
| 1216 |
nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:09:38am |
re: #923 Ward Cleaver
Ahmadinejad will take Obama's lunch money and stuff him in a locker, like he was a junior high school freshman.
that is exactly what is going on.
din-jac is already knocking him around. toying w/ him.
o's message to the moslem world on al-arabiya shows how naive and ignorant he is.
din-jac is NOT going to unclinch his fist.
he's putting them both up, right in o's face.
pushing o to prostrate himself more.
it's so predictable. this dynamic. almost comical.
until we realize we are watching the president of the united states act like a kid we have all seen kicked around in jr. high.
it is embarrassing, unsettling and appearing on the world stage.
| 1217 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:10:32am |
re: #1195 Miss Trixie
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Home today with a very sore throat and a case of the sneezies.
*sniffle*
{realwest} Morning luv *air smoochie* Don't want to give you my bug.
{reine} It looks absolutely MAHHHHHHHVELOUS! Good job Jaunte on the artwork. :D
*wah-CHOOOOOO*
*honk*
*sniffle*
God bless you!
| 1218 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:10:35am |
re: #1213 robdouth
If the seemingly inevitable and unthinkable were to happen and Obama were to allow another massive terrorist attack, who would be the front runner in the GOP? I would think with the massive swing towards a need for security that the nomination would be Giuliani's to lose.
Maybe, but losing nominations is getting to be Giuliani's specialty? And I like him.
| 1219 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:10:50am |
re: #1210 Walter L. Newton
I use a modified version of that when I am playing a role in a show (which is not that often anymore, I'm too lazy). And what I mean by that is I can break the character after the show, a lot of method people practically stay in character 24 hours a day, or the at least shut down between performances.
On the other side, I hate stage managing method people. It's not like you are dealing with a coworker, it's like you are dealing with the character itself.
It's a trade off. The process works really well, for some actors, but it can affect the personality of the person when they are off-work.
Doesn't that imply that those people are not "grounded" to begin with?
| 1220 |
notutopia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:11:03am |
re: #1212 Macker
What the frak is this thing you're talking about?
re: #1212 Macker
The LGF Cookbook!
[Link: lgfcookbook.blogspot.com...]
| 1221 |
nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:11:07am |
re: #996 reine.de.tout
Good morning, everyone!
COOKBOOK UPDATE!
The cookbook has been uploaded; I have ordered a copy to "preview" before putting it out for general sale, to make sure everything is in order.
The cover art and interesting information about the cover art can be viewed here.
how wonderful. the cover art is just fantastic, i love it.
| 1223 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:11:09am |
re: #1118 Occasional Reader
I didn't see that. Er, what made him uncomfortable? Being in a movie that glorifies a murderous, totalitarian thug? [Hey, I can dream, can't I?]
It's a shame; I think Del Toro is a gifted actor.
But he's so ugly he should wear a bag over his head.
| 1224 |
subsailor68 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:11:09am |
re: #1210 Walter L. Newton
I'll bow to your experience and expertise in this area, because everything you wrote makes complete sense. I've read a number of stories about actors (can't think of 'em - senior moment) who creep out everyone on the set because they stay in character.
| 1225 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:11:26am |
re: #1195 Miss Trixie
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Home today with a very sore throat and a case of the sneezies.
*sniffle*
{realwest} Morning luv *air smoochie* Don't want to give you my bug.
{reine} It looks absolutely MAHHHHHHHVELOUS! Good job Jaunte on the artwork. :D
*wah-CHOOOOOO*
awwww, is the Little Miss taking care of you?Mine turn into little 4 legged nurse-wannabes. I think it actually helps.
*honk*
*sniffle*
| 1226 |
Golem Akbar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:11:31am |
re: #1203 WriterMom
Just don't call me nice. I hate that.
:P
Ah yes, when she was nice, she was very very nice, but when she was bad, she was better?
| 1227 |
Buck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:11:35am |
re: #1148 Kenneth
Good for 3M. I wonder if the people of the Bay area gave up post-it-notes? I know I couldn't.
| 1228 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:11:46am |
re: #1162 Bubblehead II
I think that the only reason why we have still them there as well as having them stationed on Okinawa is for projection of force. The same reason why we keep Carrier battle groups deployed in the ME.
We have a carrier battle group deployed in Maine? Why, in case the Canucks start making trouble?
/
| 1229 |
lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:11:47am |
re: #1171 Occasional Reader
Wow.
Are the good [cough] people of Berkeley aware that Boeing manufactures aircraft that can carry nuclear weapons? And that Airbus is associated with the European defense industry that does the same? So, no airplanes for you, Berkelyites. You'll have to walk to Tibet to find spiritual awakening.
You forget that some of the power for California is produced by nuclear power, an entire industry spawned in the race to develop nuclear weapons. No Internets for you! /
| 1230 |
Jewels (AKA Julian) Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:11:58am |
Perhaps many on the boards are too young to remember James Earl Carter in office, But I do. It was not a fun time for America. And now We're going to have Round Two of Jimmy Carter through Obama
Oh yes, Carter/Mondale's Slogan for Election was 'Hope & Change'.
*Sigh*
and for the Subgenii out there: Bob?
| 1231 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:12:00am |
re: #1190 phoenixgirl
Will the Iranians have a huge sign up when A-Jad meets Obama saying 'MISSION ACCOMPLISHED'?
| 1232 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:12:04am |
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:12:17am |
I heard on Perez Hilton's radio gossip show (which is much more reliable than most of the MFM) that rumour has it that we will be blessed with a new CHILD OF ANNOINTED MESSIAHPRESIDENT EGG SCULPTURE HOLDER...did anyone else hear rumours (neither confirmed or denied by the White House) that Mrs. Messiah is with child?
| 1234 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:12:29am |
re: #1216 nyc redneck
he's putting them both up, right in o's face.
pushing o to prostrate himself more.
Reminiscent of Kruschev's first meeting with JFK. Not good.
| 1235 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:12:31am |
re: #1062 Occasional Reader Canada yes, but according to that map the UK has the same.
| 1236 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:12:39am |
re: #1218 Nevergiveup
Maybe, but losing nominations is getting to be Giuliani's specialty? And I like him.
yeah, what's up with that? i really wanted him to be the nomination, he didn't even try imho
| 1237 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:12:40am |
re: #1202 phoenixgirl
just paste the url of the video into the comment window and post it. The embedding happens automatically.
| 1238 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:12:45am |
re: #1216 nyc redneck
that is exactly what is going on.
din-jac is already knocking him around. toying w/ him.
o's message to the moslem world on al-arabiya shows how naive and ignorant he is.
din-jac is NOT going to unclinch his fist.
he's putting them both up, right in o's face.
pushing o to prostrate himself more.
it's so predictable. this dynamic. almost comical.
until we realize we are watching the president of the united states act like a kid we have all seen kicked around in jr. high.
it is embarrassing, unsettling and appearing on the world stage.
It's like we have a giant "KICK ME" sign on our back.
| 1239 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:12:52am |
| 1240 |
Golem Akbar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:13:30am |
re: #1227 Buck
Good for 3M. I wonder if the people of the Bay area gave up post-it-notes? I know I couldn't.
So that's why my post-it notes seem to glow!
| 1241 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:13:39am |
re: #1208 Kosh's Shadow
He goes on a nice rant about the destruction of Israel. Nice.
| 1242 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:14:08am |
re: #1237 Killgore Trout
thanks, i learned two things today....i should quit before my brain overloads!
| 1243 |
WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:14:15am |
re: #1228 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Don't start with us. Me, Kenneth and Miss Trixie are itching for a fight.
| 1244 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:14:18am |
re: #1191 jwb7605
I've heard that's what happened to Michael Keaton, and he knows it.
Same sort of thing from Jack Nicholson, commenting about Heath Ledger.
Which explains why Robert Downey, Jr. has been seen in blackface, trying vainly to get his Iron Man costume to work.
| 1245 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:14:22am |
re: #1239 reine.de.tout
What a great cover.
| 1246 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:14:27am |
re: #1067 Iron Fist
And what do you think that group of "undesireables" will do when Obama tries to cull us from the herd?
Hmmm?
Don't answer this: I know what your answer will be, and you know what my answer will be and there's no reason why either of us should be banned!
| 1247 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:14:31am |
re: #1195 Miss Trixie
good lord child! Go get some couph syrup. Add whiskey.
| 1248 |
lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:14:41am |
re: #1233 WriterMom
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]
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vapig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:15:00am |
re: #1104 realwest
Good morning. And with all due respect "The government, however, is dealing in totalitarianism and now feels they can dictate what this once private company does. To the detrimate of us all."
When a private company comes to us, the taxpayers to bail them out of what were clearly unwise business practices and where said private companies failure could hurt millions and millions of people, then I do think the government has the right, nay the obligation, to examine just how this once private business does business. If that private business wants OUR money, they will have to LISTEN TO US on how to spend it. Period.
That they've previously stocked their Board of Directors with a bunch of yes men and women who DIDN'T question/stop their foolish business practices indicates that SOMEONE ought to be watching the damn store.
I'm pretty nearly as fed up with these failed big businesses as I am with the government. WTF, Merrill Lynch loses BILLIONS of dollars and their CEO decides to spend $1.5 million bucks redecorating his office and paying BONUSES to the geniuses at Merrill that ran it into the ground pisses me off no end.
With all due respect, you've ignored the fact that they had planned - back in 2005 - to downsize from twon to one jets. The newer jet would be paid for by the sale of the two older jets. The newer jet would be more fuel efficient and have less maintenance.
While I agree that private businesses had no business in going to the government to foot the bill for their failed policies, your acknowledging that the somehow the govenment has a right to now dictate to them on their day to day business practices greatly distresses me!
Your attitude is exactly why I didn't want the government in our business in the first place.
| 1250 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:15:32am |
re: #1235 realwest
Canada yes, but according to that map the UK has the same.
UK's is marginally higher (78.7 vs. 78.06).
| 1251 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:15:37am |
| 1252 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:15:41am |
re: #1181 turn
I heard on the news last night that the "stimulus" plan costs us taxpayers something like $200k per job created. That's just insane. I say take less out of my check and I'll spend it. I rather stimulated the economy by buying myself something rather than pay for somebody else to get a job.
Here's my measure of the bill, ME.
1) I'm 56 years old.
2) Working at just a little above minimum wage
3) I am a seasoned programmer of 30 years
4) No medical that is mine (ex-wife covers minimum, I could loose it any time)
5) Been looking for a full time job in my career for 5 years.
I've looked the stimulus over. There is nothing in the bill that would change a single thing above.
I'm not saying that I want any handouts, my comment is simply to point out some facts.
So, who in the hell does this bill really help? Of course I know that answer. I don't own the right business, so I don't get anything there. I've never let myself get so in the trash that I am 100 percent sucking at the public teats, so I don't get anything there.
So, who is this bill for?
| 1253 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:15:50am |
re: #1233 WriterMom
Oh G*d, I hope not. Can you just imagine the orgasms the MSM will have with that? I will have to turn off my nice new HD TV forever... (except for Red Sox games that is. Just 14 more days until Pitchers and Catchers report!)
| 1254 |
eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:15:54am |
re: #1116 Golem Akbar
Obama is very smart (schmart). He has figured out that the Depression of the 30's and 40's did not end because of government programs, but because of WWII. If he can draft 30 - 40 million people (into the military or his "civilian corps"), that'll solve the unemployment problems, and probably create something akin to Hitler's Youth Corps, but somewhat more benign.
3 Wood is here so he can confirm or deny this...
It strikes me that WWII was, from an economic perspective, just a massive government spending spree. And because so many resources were used in the conduct of the war and were, as a result, unavailable for consumers, the economy took off after the war due to massive consumer spending.
No?
| 1256 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:16:04am |
re: #1075 Nevergiveup
Yeah, but other than flying wounded warriors to the big hospitals at the AF Base and down the road, we don't need to keep ANY American Troops in Germany.
| 1257 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:16:06am |
re: #1233 WriterMom
My husband thought she looked it during the coronation. The Enquirer is running a story about them wanting a boy.
| 1258 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:16:19am |
| 1260 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:16:23am |
re: #1223 Ward Cleaver
But he's so ugly he should wear a bag over his head.
Yet he's a sex symbol. It must be the "Latin lover" mystique. If his name was "Eugene McWawa" & he looked like that, kids would dress like him for Halloween.
| 1261 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:16:48am |
re: #1183 vxbush
Yikes! Yes, a good thing to cancel, if they didn't have their ducks in a row. Aiyyee! I've had problems with pre-authorizations before, so I totally understand where you're coming from.
Are you planning to reschedule?
Probably so.
| 1263 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:17:01am |
| 1265 |
vxbush Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:17:20am |
re: #1221 nyc redneck
how wonderful. the cover art is just fantastic, i love it.
Am I not seeing a book about chocolates on the shelves? Because there should be one....
*sniff*
| 1268 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:17:28am |
re: #1233 WriterMom
I heard on Perez Hilton's radio gossip show (which is much more reliable than most of the MFM) that rumour has it that we will be blessed with a new CHILD OF ANNOINTED MESSIAHPRESIDENT EGG SCULPTURE HOLDER...did anyone else hear rumours (neither confirmed or denied by the White House) that Mrs. Messiah is with child?
I hope the hell not! I am sick of the fawning coverage over this family already...can you imagine what it will be like if Michelle is preggers?
| 1269 |
ThinkRight Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:17:52am |
| 1270 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:17:56am |
re: #1251 Ward Cleaver
They can go back to using card files.
Paper cards! Dude, that's like raping Earth Mother Gaia!
| 1271 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:17:58am |
re: #1078 Oh no...Sand People!"I want to be wrong." Not anymore than I want you to be wrong. And being the person who puts those "X's" on the chart would be a job with a short life expectancy, too.
| 1273 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:18:03am |
re: #1257 vagabond trader
My husband thought she looked it during the coronation. The Enquirer is running a story about them wanting a boy.
Oh no, a boy Prince?
| 1274 |
WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:18:04am |
re: #1268 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
We'll be having morning sickness, by extension for 9 fucking months.
| 1275 |
SurferDoc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:18:18am |
re: #1201 Occasional Reader
That explains why I'm not getting any callbacks... I thought it was methodist acting. I keep trying to pretend I'm John Wesley.
Oooops! Upding!
| 1276 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:18:20am |
re: #1256 realwest
Yeah, but other than flying wounded warriors to the big hospitals at the AF Base and down the road, we don't need to keep ANY American Troops in Germany.
With the way Obama is going to be slashing the shit out of the defense budget, w're gonna have to start shipping the wounded UPS.
| 1277 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:18:25am |
re: #1197 Killgore Trout
Hey there Killgore. I was watching and when it got to the part where the bunny was calling the Palestinian children the "pioneers" of tomorrow I couldn't help thinking "pyrotechnics" of tomorrow would be more appropriate.
| 1278 |
J.S. Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:18:41am |
re: #1216 nyc redneck
There have been reports (in The Guardian newspaper, etc.) that Obama wants to write an apologetic letter to Iran and thus begin a normalization of relations between Iran and the United States. These reports have yet to be verified...(although it does sound highly probable given The Zero's idiotic naivety...and who was making the claim that The Zero's interview with al-Arabiya television had nothing to do with capitulation and appeasement? were they ever wrong...)
| 1279 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:18:41am |
re: #1227 Buck
Good for 3M. I wonder if the people of the Bay area gave up post-it-notes? I know I couldn't.
3M is one of my favorite companies. They make a lot of great stuff, from Post-It notes, to their automotive stuff.
| 1281 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:08am |
re: #1268 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I hope the hell not! I am sick of the fawning coverage over this family already...can you imagine what it will be like if Michelle is preggers?
I was just thinking this morning, "how long until the oldest daughter starts dating & we have to put up with more tabloid, Tiger Beat-esque, MSM fawning?"
| 1282 |
Sprite Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:08am |
re: #786 BlueCanuck
A troll? You expletive deleted. My nic is blue. I'd love to compare our credentials.
| 1283 |
WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:10am |
UCH.
I think I am being too rude this morning, yes?
| 1284 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:11am |
re: #1270 Occasional Reader
Paper cards! Dude, that's like raping Earth Mother Gaia!
They can use recycled toilet paper.
| 1285 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:14am |
re: #1273 Ford_Prefect
They'll make sure of that. She's getting a bit long in the tooth.
| 1286 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:24am |
| 1287 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:24am |
BRUSSELS (Reuters) – The European Union will need time to solve the difficult issue of whether to help President Barack Obama shut the Guantanamo jail by taking in inmates, the bloc's anti-terrorism chief said on Thursday.
"President Obama said he will need a year to close Guantanamo, it shows how difficult it is," EU anti-terrorism coordinator Gilles de Kerchove told reporters.
"So we should not ask the EU to answer in 15 days, that would not be serious ... the ministers will discuss it again," he said after the bloc's foreign minister were split on this issue when they first discussed it at a meeting on Monday.
But I thought this is what the EU was demanding, to close Gitmo immediately?
He recalled that under the Bush administration, Washington tried in vain, for years, to persuade its allies in the 27-nation EU to take in detainees who cannot go back to their home country and whom the United States does not want either.
EU foreign ministers said on Monday they expected the new U.S. administration to contact them quickly with the same demand.
Oh, so Obama is just repeating what Bush already tried?
De Kerchove said things were different now because Obama's decision to shut the prison, widely viewed as a stain on the U.S.'s human rights record, was part of an overall shift in U.S. anti-terrorism policy, including giving up on water-boarding practices.
Umm... the CIA banned waterboarding in 2006. And it was only used 3 times, in 2003 & 2003.
| 1288 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:38am |
re: #1233 WriterMom
I heard on Perez Hilton's radio gossip show (which is much more reliable than most of the MFM) that rumour has it that we will be blessed with a new CHILD OF ANNOINTED MESSIAHPRESIDENT EGG SCULPTURE HOLDER...did anyone else hear rumours (neither confirmed or denied by the White House) that Mrs. Messiah is with child?
Not heard any rumours, meself - but I do remember some of us older female Lizards had our suspicions during the elections.
Which of course is neither here nor there, and if its true and she's kept it a secret, then well done, Michelle.
| 1290 |
notutopia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:43am |
re: #1239 reine.de.tout
It is the LGF Cookbook, produced by readers of LGF.
Been working on it since, gee, September.
Thought it would take 2 months, LOL!Anyhow, it's about ready to go up for sale, you can view cover art and other info here.
Reine, you are truly a Queen of Cookbooks!
Thanks for your vision, mission and endurance to get this wonderful project started and completed.
| 1291 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:55am |
re: #1260 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Yet he's a sex symbol. It must be the "Latin lover" mystique.
Which works. I have this Argentinian friend. Back in my single days (and his single days), I used to hang out with him at night spots; it was absolutely comical how easy it was for him to pick up women.
| 1292 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:19:57am |
re: #1202 phoenixgirl
killgore, i need your help. i must have missed the class on how to get the special liveleak and youtube buttons in the posts....how do i do that?
If Killgore hasn't responded by now I think you just simply cut and paste the link IIRC.
| 1293 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:20:03am |
re: #1246 realwest
And what do you think that group of "undesireables" will do when Obama tries to cull us from the herd?
Hmmm?
Don't answer this: I know what your answer will be, and you know what my answer will be and there's no reason why either of us should be banned!
Speaking of "culling the herd", the Wildlife Activists are at it again here in Colorado.
The Elk herd in Rocky Mountain National park is seriously oversized, and they walk through Estes Park as thick as the "wild geese" in a city park in most areas.
Plus, wasting disease is becoming a real problem for deer & elk in Colorado, Wyoming, and Nebraska.
| 1294 |
Ward Cleaver Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:20:11am |
| 1295 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:20:11am |
re: #1274 WriterMom
We'll be having morning sickness, by extension for 9 fucking months.
More like four fucking years....I may just have to up my daily merlot intake from one glass to one bottle.
| 1297 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:20:28am |
Morning, lizards!
An oldie but a goodie:
It was already late fall and the Indians on a remote reservation in South Dakota asked their new chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild.
Since he was a chief in a modern society he had never been taught the old secrets. When he looked at the sky he couldn't tell what the winter was going to be like.
Nevertheless, to be on the safe side, he told his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect firewood to be prepared.
But being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked, "Is the coming winter going to be cold?"
"It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold," the meteorologist at the weather service responded.
So the chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more firewood in order to be prepared.
A week later he called the National Weather Service again. "Does it still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?"
"Yes," the man at National Weather Service again replied, "it's going to be a very cold winter."
The chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every scrap of firewood they could find.
Two weeks later the chief called the National Weather Service again. "Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?"
"Absolutely," the man replied. "It's looking more and more like it is going to be one of the coldest winters we've ever seen."
"How can you be so sure?" the chief asked.
The weatherman replied, "The Indians are collecting firewood like crazy!
| 1298 |
ladycatnip Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:20:37am |
I just send Charles a link to this - it's disturbing and creepy. Why is Obama still using his logo after being elected, and why is a crescent used as the symbol for his "Obama Youth" ?
This is not good.
| 1301 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:20:58am |
re: #1219 jwb7605
Doesn't that imply that those people are not "grounded" to begin with?
Not really, but acting (in general) is a tribal process. You HAVE to work, yea I know, hoary old saying, but... you have to work together like a village.
So, you do have to give yourself over to the process, to the other actors, to the director and so on. It is largely an issue of trust.
You can use "self" as the inner power to motivate you character, but externally, you have to become one with the team.
So, this makes a lot of actors appear to in some other "plane." Not so, most of the time, it's just the actor's "ground" is with the whole ensemble.
| 1302 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:21:11am |
| 1303 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:21:12am |
# 645 just needs one more (+) to hit the top ten
come on Lizards!
| 1304 |
nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:21:22am |
re: #1234 Occasional Reader
Reminiscent of Kruschev's first meeting with JFK. Not good.
not good, at all.
at least jfk was not driven to be a door mat to our enemies to get their approval.
| 1305 |
WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:21:25am |
re: #1291 Occasional Reader
So, did you benefit from the residuals? The spin off effect?
| 1306 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:21:26am |
re: #1288 yma o hyd
Not heard any rumours, meself - but I do remember some of us older female Lizards had our suspicions during the elections.
Which of course is neither here nor there, and if its true and she's kept it a secret, then well done, Michelle.
Maybe it's Track's kid?
/
| 1308 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:21:36am |
re: #1290 notutopia
Reine, you are truly a Queen of Cookbooks!
Thanks for your vision, mission and endurance to get this wonderful project started and completed.
I was merely the smallest of small cogs in a big wheel.
Biggest kudos to flakmusic and Jaunte.
| 1309 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:22:03am |
re: #1204 lawhawk
Thanks. Spot on as usual.
| 1310 |
VegasRick Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:22:22am |
re: #1206 godfrey
Dude, I feel for you. My Rhythm Method of acting hasn't borne fruit, either.
I dated a girl in high school that told me her mother got pregnant with her while on the rhythm method, she named her Melody.
| 1311 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:22:23am |
re: #1294 Ward Cleaver
Barack mohammed wright ayers winfrey che obamaFixed.
Fixed. Do we really think that the Supreme Egomaniac will not name a son after himself?
| 1312 |
WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:22:32am |
re: #1298 ladycatnip
Holy shitzky. That is really creepy. But probably a coincidence. A massive coincidence, just like the Crescent of Embrace design for the 9/11 memorial.
//
| 1313 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:22:34am |
re: #1233 WriterMom
I heard on Perez Hilton's radio gossip show (which is much more reliable than most of the MFM) that rumour has it that we will be blessed with a new CHILD OF ANNOINTED MESSIAHPRESIDENT EGG SCULPTURE HOLDER...did anyone else hear rumours (neither confirmed or denied by the White House) that Mrs. Messiah is with child?
I thought they were getting a puppy?
| 1314 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:22:35am |
Is the troll still here, or did I miss all the fun?
| 1315 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:22:36am |
| 1316 |
Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:22:42am |
re: #1252 Walter L. Newton
Walter, shame on you! Don't you know that the President's celebration of Pork includes lots of money for "artistic" endeavors.
/
Seriously, I sympathize with your plight. In the programming world, once you hit forty, your days are numbered. Either you go into management, or you start your own shop. Both are challenging.
Why not start an online service for the theaters in your area - give theater goers a synopsis, cast list and a link so that they can purchase tickets? You could probably charge for advertising... at least for touring "Broadway shows".
| 1317 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:23:08am |
re: #1268 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I hope the hell not! I am sick of the fawning coverage over this family already...can you imagine what it will be like if Michelle is preggers?
Oh, dear Lord. No. Please-a let eet no be true (as Maria intones in West Side Story).
| 1318 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:23:14am |
re: #1281 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I was just thinking this morning, "how long until the oldest daughter starts dating & we have to put up with more tabloid, Tiger Beat-esque, MSM fawning?"
Please, no. Oh Gawd, please, not that!
| 1319 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:23:28am |
I have to leave; if any of ya'll think of it in threads today, please pass the word along about the cookbook when it's appropriate to do so.
Have a good day, all!
You too, avanti.
| 1321 |
Buck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:23:30am |
re: #1216 nyc redneck
it is embarrassing, unsettling and appearing on the world stage.
It is a little bit funny that Obama said he would meet with Ahmadinejad without preconditions, and it turns out that Ahmadinejad will not meet with Obama without a few of his own preconditions.
President Barack Obama apologise for past US "crimes" against the Islamic republic, put an end to the US military presence in the world and of course stop supporting the Zionists.
| 1323 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:23:37am |
re: #1293 jwb7605
Speaking of "culling the herd", the Wildlife Activists are at it again here in Colorado.
The Elk herd in Rocky Mountain National park is seriously oversized, and they walk through Estes Park as thick as the "wild geese" in a city park in most areas.
Plus, wasting disease is becoming a real problem for deer & elk in Colorado, Wyoming, and Nebraska.
Quick, call Bill Ritter, food for the homeless!
| 1326 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:24:39am |
re: #1311 Ford_Prefect
Fixed. Do we really think that the Supreme Egomaniac will not name a son after himself?
Then he would go by the nic "B.J." for Barack Jr.?
| 1327 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:24:50am |
re: #1298 ladycatnip
I just send Charles a link to this - it's disturbing and creepy. Why is Obama still using his logo after being elected, and why is a crescent used as the symbol for his "Obama Youth" ?
This is not good.
that is really spooky....gives me the shivers
| 1328 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:24:58am |
re: #1298 ladycatnip
A. He's in perpetual campaign mode
B. The crescent is to inspire the paroled youth who are jailhouse converts.
This jackazz is really into symbolism also . Bet he plays with numerology like his friend Farrakhan.
| 1329 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:25:01am |
re: #1227 Buck
3M makes literally thousands of products. Here's a link to their A-Z Product list. You probably use dozens of their products in any given day without even knowing it.
| 1330 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:25:29am |
re: #1325 Sprite
Just showing you yourself, lil missy.
Why, thank you for gracing all of us with your moral wisdom and superior humility. Whatever would we do without you?
| 1331 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:25:43am |
re: #1317 Occasional Reader
Oh, dear Lord. No. Please-a let eet no be true (as Maria intones in West Side Story).
Ah West Side Story - the first play I was in. Also how I learned to fight. I got beat up a lot, but I was well-choreographed.
| 1332 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:25:48am |
re: #1330 gclaghorn
Why, thank you for gracing all of us with your moral wisdom and superior humility. Whatever would we do without you?
/sarc.
| 1333 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:26:04am |
re: #1305 WriterMom
So, did you benefit from the residuals? The spin off effect?
[sigh] Yeah. Definitely "second string" compared to this guy. But I could take comfort in the fact that in Latin America, I get to be the Sexy Gringo.
| 1334 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:26:16am |
barack mohammed wright ayers winfrey che castro obama
| 1335 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:26:23am |
re: #1306 Nevergiveup
Maybe it's Track's kid?
/
Ohmigawd - Michelle the cradle snatcher?
Mind - it'll be reported very civilised in the MFM, unlike the disgusting stuff they wrote about Sarah P.
| 1336 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:26:29am |
re: #1326 ggt
Then he would go by the nic "B.J." for Barack Jr.?
Boy, first Clinton loses his title as "first Black President," and now this?!
| 1337 |
Miss Trixie Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:27:04am |
re: #1247 wahabicorridor
good lord child! Go get some couph syrup. Add whiskey.
Ack. No whiskey in da house.
Will brandy do?
| 1338 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:27:10am |
re: #645 golly_wog
Everybody, go up and read this brilliant post and upding it!
| 1339 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:27:20am |
re: #1305 WriterMom
So, did you benefit from the residuals? The spin off effect?
I was gonna ask him if he got leftovers...DMTA...!
| 1340 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:27:24am |
re: #1334 phoenixgirl
barack mohammed wright ayers vladimir winfrey che castro obama
| 1341 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:27:37am |
re: #1298 ladycatnip
I just send Charles a link to this - it's disturbing and creepy. Why is Obama still using his logo after being elected, and why is a crescent used as the symbol for his "Obama Youth" ?
This is not good.
1. He's a narcissist
2. He's running for re-election already
3. The Obama youth look a lot like those twig stick figures from the Blair Witch Project.
4. I think the crescent is purely cooincidental
/
| 1342 |
rawmuse Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:27:38am |
re: #1252 Walter L. Newton
Good morning, Lizards!
And Walter, the bill appears to my eyes to be at least 60 percent political payoffs to Democrat pet projects. That is why I am glad that the Republicans voted against it. Let them at least go on the record, for that record means something. Remember, a big reason that Obama is where he today is because of his one vote (against Iraq support). Votes matter.
| 1343 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:27:41am |
Waah! This is boring! Charles, you atheist! Why do you hate Christians! Waah! I didn't come from no monkey!
Same old whining, different day.
| 1344 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:27:54am |
re: #1323 Walter L. Newton
Quick, call Bill Ritter, food for the homeless!
I'm wondering if the NEA or CEA will be supporting him in the future.
Education cuts.
| 1345 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:27:58am |
re: #1321 Buck
President Barack Obama apologise for past US "crimes" against the Islamic republic
Even NPR noted this morning that the US already HAS apologized for the big ticket items on ShortShit's bitch list (thank you, Clenis Clinton... gah.)
| 1346 |
MJ Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:28:18am |
Global warming hypocrite alert:
The capital flew into a bit of a tizzy when, on his first full day in the White House, President Obama was photographed in the Oval Office without his suit jacket. There was, however, a logical explanation: Mr. Obama, who hates the cold, had cranked up the thermostat.
“He’s from Hawaii, O.K.?” said Mr. Obama’s senior adviser, David Axelrod, who occupies the small but strategically located office next door to his boss. “He likes it warm. You could grow orchids in there.”
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Somebody, please, calculate the increased size of the White House carbon footprint caused by this preference for being surrounded by warm air instead of warm clothing. Thermostat setting — 75°? 78?
| 1347 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:28:44am |
re: #1319 reine.de.tout
I have to leave; if any of ya'll think of it in threads today, please pass the word along about the cookbook when it's appropriate to do so.
Have a good day, all!
You too, avanti.
later, {reine}
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:28:48am |
re: #1164 SasquatchOnSteroids
I'll have to check how many of those 11 are first-termers.
PeloReid may have given them a green light to oppose it, but who knows...
Maybe, but I think that they wanted a solid party.
| 1349 |
WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:28:50am |
re: #1339 redstateredneck
Yah...I didn't want to say sloppy seconds, because that is like soooooo rude, you know?
| 1350 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:28:55am |
re: #1343 Charles
Waah! This is boring! Charles, you atheist! Why do you hate Christians! Waah! I didn't come from no monkey!
Same old whining, different day.
Sprite : The Un-cola trolla
| 1351 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:29:03am |
re: #1333 Occasional Reader
[sigh] Yeah. Definitely "second string" compared to this guy. But I could take comfort in the fact that in Latin America, I get to be the Sexy Gringo.
So if I take a trip to Latin America, I'll be more attractive? Sign me up! Dating me is a job Americans just won't do.
| 1352 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:29:15am |
re: #1252 Walter L. Newton
Hey there Walter, I can sympathize with you. I think the bill boils down to a redistribution of wealth so it's essentially socialism (you know all this). It's a way to re-institute welfare essentially, the money is for the "poor" people who don't work enough to pay taxes. Your wife pays and you'll pay too when you get back to work.
| 1353 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:29:19am |
re: #1346 MJ
Global warming hypocrite alert:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]Somebody, please, calculate the increased size of the White House carbon footprint caused by this preference for being surrounded by warm air instead of warm clothing. Thermostat setting — 75°? 78?
hahahahahhahahahahhaaha ouch my sides hurt and my head is going to explode!
| 1354 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:29:28am |
re: #1316 Conservative in Liberal Hands
Seriously, I sympathize with your plight. In the programming world, once you hit forty, your days are numbered. Either you go into management, or you start your own shop. Both are challenging.
Why not start an online service for the theaters in your area - give theater goers a synopsis, cast list and a link so that they can purchase tickets? You could probably charge for advertising... at least for touring "Broadway shows".
Been done, a million times over. Even major LA and NY theatre publications have gone online and cover listing for all major cities.
Our publicist, when she sends a press release for our theatre, has over 100 LOCAL on line resources that will list show information.
And all together, with the major papers and on line reviewers, we have about 15 local sites that cover critique of shows.
The "art" money in the bill will not filter down to a non-profit like I work for. You will see it get "stuck" with the more robust, larger, nose-in-the-air arts groups in Colorado. If we get anything, they will throw us a bone.
| 1355 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:29:35am |
re: #1160 redstateredneck
Hey {red} Good morning to you. Just so y'all will know (even though I'm pretty sure this isn't news to you) Che wasn't a warrior - he was a ruthless, cold blooded killer. Yes he did kill some of Batista's troops, but he killed more Cuban civilians than Batista's troops.
Frankly some folks still think that Fidel sent Che to Bolivia because he was afraid of Che's "popularity" (which was carefully groomed for by Che and his sycophant's) and, well, of Che.
| 1357 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:30:11am |
re: #1343 Charles
Good morning,Charles. Wake up on the wrong side of the egg this morning?
| 1358 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:30:12am |
re: #1346 MJ
Global warming hypocrite alert:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]Somebody, please, calculate the increased size of the White House carbon footprint caused by this preference for being surrounded by warm air instead of warm clothing. Thermostat setting — 75°? 78?
Christ on a pony, I live in Houston, grew up in New orleans and even 78 is too hot for me in the winter. I keep my thermostat at around 68-70 in the winter.
| 1359 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:30:14am |
| 1360 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:30:36am |
re: #1349 WriterMom
Yah...I didn't want to say sloppy seconds, because that is like soooooo rude, you know?
You'd get banned from the NHL for talk like that!
| 1361 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:30:43am |
re: #1343 Charles
Waah! This is boring! Charles, you atheist! Why do you hate Christians! Waah! I didn't come from no monkey!
Same old whining, different day.
Aww - wonder what they'd say if someone pointed out to them that, when one goes back far enough, we all came from the humble amoeba ...
/Pass the hankies ...
| 1362 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:31:06am |
re: #1331 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Ah West Side Story - the first play I was in. Also how I learned to fight. I got beat up a lot, but I was well-choreographed.
Heh. I remember when my high school staged West Side Story. The "Jets" were mostly the typical artsy "music room" crowd who were in all the school musicals and plays. For the "Sharks", the music teacher made an active (and successful) effort to recruit some of the tough black and Latino kids, who ordinarily eschewed theater. The resulting "rumble" scenes looked awfully one-sided.
| 1363 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:31:08am |
re: #1346 MJ
Global warming hypocrite alert:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]Somebody, please, calculate the increased size of the White House carbon footprint caused by this preference for being surrounded by warm air instead of warm clothing. Thermostat setting — 75°? 78?
ATTENTION ALL GALLEY SLAVES!
I got good news and bad news!
First the good news, triple stimulus rations at lunch!
Now for the bad news, after lunch.... the Captain wants to go water skiing.
| 1364 |
The Pulchritudinous Patriot Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:31:10am |
re: #1357 Ford_Prefect
Good morning,Charles. Wake up on the wrong side of the egg this morning?
I think he must be reading his email.
Morning Charles!
| 1365 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:31:28am |
re: #1346 MJ
obiously, someone else is paying his electrical bill........someone needs to tell him to put a f'n sweater on.
| 1366 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:31:35am |
re: #1346 MJ
But but, The Obama said we can't be cranking our thermostats to 72 and eat whatever we want.What gives?
| 1368 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:32:02am |
re: #1352 turn
Hey there Walter, I can sympathize with you. I think the bill boils down to a redistribution of wealth so it's essentially socialism (you know all this). It's a way to re-institute welfare essentially, the money is for the "poor" people who don't work enough to pay taxes. Your wife pays and you'll pay too when you get back to work.
No wife anymore. But you're right, and that is the point I am trying to make. These kind of handout are only for people that won't work and are happy helping out the "system" by working with it.
| 1370 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:32:04am |
re: #1355 realwest
Hey {red} Good morning to you. Just so y'all will know (even though I'm pretty sure this isn't news to you) Che wasn't a warrior - he was a ruthless, cold blooded killer. Yes he did kill some of Batista's troops, but he killed more Cuban civilians than Batista's troops.
Frankly some folks still think that Fidel sent Che to Bolivia because he was afraid of Che's "popularity" (which was carefully groomed for by Che and his sycophant's) and, well, of Che.
That makes sense. When the Cuban troops came back from Angola, Castro had their very popular general tried on trumped up charges & executed.
| 1371 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:32:15am |
re: #1365 phoenixgirl
obiously, someone else is paying his electrical bill........someone needs to tell him to put a f'n sweater on.
I bet Jimmah as some left over he could lend him?
| 1372 |
MJ Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:32:52am |
re: #1346 MJ
Oops. Meant to include a link to Ann Althouse which is where I found it:
[Link: althouse.blogspot.com...]
| 1373 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:32:54am |
Attenborough reveals creationist hate mail for not crediting God
Sir David Attenborough has revealed that he receives hate mail from viewers for failing to credit God in his documentaries. In an interview with this week's Radio Times about his latest documentary, on Charles Darwin and natural selection, the broadcaster said: "They tell me to burn in hell and good riddance."
....
Attenborough went further in his opposition to creationism, saying it was "terrible" when it was taught alongside evolution as an alternative perspective. "It's like saying that two and two equals four, but if you wish to believe it, it could also be five ... Evolution is not a theory; it is a fact, every bit as much as the historical fact that William the Conqueror landed in 1066."
.....
In 2002, Attenborough joined an effort by clerics and scientists to oppose the inclusion of creationism in the curriculum of state-funded independent schools receiving private sponsorship, such as the Emmanuel Schools Foundation.
| 1375 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:33:06am |
re: #1255 taxfreekiller
Thing is,
Obama wants to be pushed around.
As do his loon anti war, anti American support Democrat commies.
Hey TFK, what do you mean by "pushed around"?
| 1376 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:33:11am |
re: #1358 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Christ on a pony, I live in Houston, grew up in New orleans and even 78 is too hot for me in the winter. I keep my thermostat at around 68-70 in the winter.
If the white house just had it's tires inflated and got regular tune-ups, they could use less heat.
/
| 1377 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:33:25am |
re: #1169 Kenneth
Hey there Kenneth! Now don't y'all go ragging on the French when they've done something good for a change!
| 1378 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:33:26am |
re: #1324 Killgore Trout
Morning. Ok, one paragraph critique? Pleased, mad, pissed, don't care. I would have called it the most "revel" packed episode in the last 5 years.
| 1379 |
Conservative in Liberal Hands Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:33:27am |
re: #1354 Walter L. Newton
Ouch! You're probably correct in your analysis as far as who will get the $'s. Not those actually doing it, just endlessly talking about it (and how great is the Onetm.
| 1380 |
notutopia Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:33:31am |
Everyone have a good day. Got errands to run.
BBL
| 1381 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:33:35am |
re: #1351 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
So if I take a trip to Latin America, I'll be more attractive?
Yes.
| 1382 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:33:44am |
re: #1364 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I think he must be reading his email.
Morning Charles!
Now that brings up an interesting question. Do Lizards still get snail-mail? Or is that too sluggish?
I have feeling I am about to get shelled.
| 1383 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:33:45am |
re: #1366 vagabond trader
But but, The Obama said we can't be cranking our thermostats to 72 and eat whatever we want.What gives?
will vagabond trader report to the minister of re-education's office
| 1384 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:33:48am |
re: #1349 WriterMom
Yah...I didn't want to say sloppy seconds, because that is like soooooo rude, you know?
I thought EXACTLY the same thing.
:D
| 1385 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:34:15am |
re: #1346 MJ
Global warming hypocrite alert:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]Somebody, please, calculate the increased size of the White House carbon footprint caused by this preference for being surrounded by warm air instead of warm clothing. Thermostat setting — 75°? 78?
Hawaii? How long since he's lived there? How long has in lived in Chicago?
How many are gonna' swallow that line?
| 1386 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:34:56am |
re: #152 Sharmuta
Obama White House may send letter to unfreeze US-Iran relations
When do we return the Hostages ?
| 1387 |
Buck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:34:58am |
re: #1345 Occasional Reader
Even NPR noted this morning that the US already HAS apologized for the big ticket items on ShortShit's bitch list (thank you, Clenis Clinton... gah.)
I guess it didn't count if we didn't promise not to do it again (like we did with Cuba).
| 1388 |
lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:35:03am |
re: #1323 Walter L. Newton
Forget food for the homeless, elk is tasty.
OT:
Looks like Obama's choice for National Intel Director has a problem. A genocide problem. He sat on his hands during the East Timor genocide during the Clinton Administration. Obama loves to tout his Indonesian ties, so it's doubly curious how he'd pick a guy who is tied to the genocide (by failing to act to stop it).
That's a common theme with the Democrats; they talk about how we have to stop genocides, but when they're in a position to actually act to stop mass murder, they do nothing. See Rwanda. Congo. East Timor.
When President Bush overthrew a genocidal dictator who murdered more than 270,000 Iraqis, that was detestable.
The Left could care less about human rights or individual rights or freedom. They just use the concepts to undermine US security and that of the Western World.
| 1389 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:35:04am |
re: #1329 Kenneth
3M makes literally thousands of products. Here's a link to their A-Z Product list. You probably use dozens of their products in any given day without even knowing it.
Yep. It's a lot more than just tape and Post-It Notes.
| 1390 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:35:17am |
re: #1355 realwest
Hey {red} Good morning to you. Just so y'all will know (even though I'm pretty sure this isn't news to you) Che wasn't a warrior - he was a ruthless, cold blooded killer. Yes he did kill some of Batista's troops, but he killed more Cuban civilians than Batista's troops.
Frankly some folks still think that Fidel sent Che to Bolivia because he was afraid of Che's "popularity" (which was carefully groomed for by Che and his sycophant's) and, well, of Che.
Somebody needs to tell Benicio Del Toro!
| 1391 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:35:24am |
re: #1373 Killgore Trout
"But there is no need for this any longer. I told you I saw five. I have told you everything. I understand now… why does it have to go on?"
| 1393 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:35:36am |
| 1394 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:35:44am |
re: #1385 jcm
Hawaii? How long since he's lived there? How long has in lived in Chicago?
How many are gonna' swallow that line?
What was that ?
"My kids told me they go out for recess on days like this."
| 1395 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:35:48am |
re: #1382 Ford_Prefect
Now that brings up an interesting question. Do Lizards still get snail-mail? Or is that too sluggish?
I have feeling I am about to get shelled.
I responded by snail mail
| 1396 |
VegasRick Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:35:48am |
re: #1366 vagabond trader
But but, The Obama said we can't be cranking our thermostats to 72 and eat whatever we want.What gives?
That's what gives, just like Fat Al Gorebull warming hypocrite.
| 1397 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:35:58am |
re: #1373 Killgore Trout
Islamists retort....
A response to Attenborough’s Guardian comments on God and evolution.
Attenborough’s arrogance is a product of the bygone generation of scientism that is ignorant of the revolution that is taking place on the topic of the existence God.
Same talking points as the Christian creationists.
| 1398 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:35:59am |
re: #1362 Occasional Reader
Heh. I remember when my high school staged West Side Story. The "Jets" were mostly the typical artsy "music room" crowd who were in all the school musicals and plays. For the "Sharks", the music teacher made an active (and successful) effort to recruit some of the tough black and Latino kids, who ordinarily eschewed theater. The resulting "rumble" scenes looked awfully one-sided.
Having only one black student in our class, (though his Mom was white, like a certain Black President I could mention), they cast the vaguely Italian kids as the Sharks. Us Northern European kids were the Jets.
One more thing about West Side Story. Tony runs through the streets of Spanish Harlem shouting "Maria! Maria!" & only one girl comes to her window? He should have been trampled like there was a sale at Filene's Basement!
| 1399 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:36:37am |
re: #1385 jcm
Hawaii? How long since he's lived there? How long has in lived in Chicago?
Why, it seems only yesterday that Obama was bragging about tough he was from all those Chicago winters, compared to us weakling DC hothouse flowers.
Wait... it was yesterday.
| 1400 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:37:16am |
re: #1390 redstateredneck
Somebody needs to tell Benicio Del Toro!
A reporter tried to and he walked out of the interview. So much for CHANGE.
| 1401 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:37:19am |
re: #1367 WriterMom
If he wants to be hot - why can't he do what so many of us do here in the UK, and stick a hot-water-bottle under his jumper?
Works a treat!
And saves the planet ...
:-)))
| 1402 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:37:39am |
re: #1389 Honorary Yooper
Yep. It's a lot more than just tape and Post-It Notes.
BIG Ms ARE RIPPING US OFF!
| 1403 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:37:40am |
| 1404 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:37:57am |
re: #1398 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Tony runs through the streets of Spanish Harlem shouting "Maria! Maria!" & only one girl comes to her window?
Ha!
| 1407 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:38:19am |
By the way, I'm finished with trying to explain to thin-skinned fanatics that I'm not denigrating people of faith by being opposed to pseudo-science. It's an attempt to manipulate me into shutting up. Some people threaten me with hell, some people whine about being offended, some people tell me I'm dividing conservatives. It's all crap.
From now on, I'm simply taking away the accounts of people who insist on being offended where no offense is given.
| 1408 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:38:29am |
re: #1378 Walter L. Newton
I liked it. Not too much Desmond and the time travel stuff made sense and seemed plausible. I love the busty little blonde chick with the South African/New Zealand accent. I hope to see much more of her.
| 1409 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:38:38am |
re: #1195 {Miss Trixie} Sorry to hear about that sore throat and sniffles
*smoooches* to you (and real ones, not "air smooches") realwest is nothing if not brave when it comes to kissing gorgeous women!
Seriously - I hope you get to feeling better soon!
| 1410 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:38:56am |
re: #1399 Occasional Reader
He IS the most cosmopolitan metrosexual potus we've ever had. I daresay his chills were more from the fact that he has the physique of Olive Oyl
| 1411 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:39:27am |
re: #1407 Charles
By the way, I'm finished with trying to explain to thin-skinned fanatics that I'm not denigrating people of faith by being opposed to pseudo-science. It's an attempt to manipulate me into shutting up. Some people threaten me with hell, some people whine about being offended, some people tell me I'm dividing conservatives. It's all crap.
From now on, I'm simply taking away the accounts of people who insist on being offended where no offense is given.
I am hurt by that, Charles.
//Kidding! Kidding!
| 1412 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:39:32am |
Swiss police spy marijuana field with Google Earth
Jan 29 10:59 AM US/Eastern
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
See you all later, I gotta get home and cut my lawn.
| 1413 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:39:36am |
re: #1377 realwest
Hey, I'm just teasing them. But consider this French paradox:
1. The French are funny.
2. The French are sexy.
3. The French make good films.
But... French sex farce movies are unfunny, unsexy, crappy films.
Pourquois?
| 1414 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:39:40am |
| 1415 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:39:44am |
re: #1407 Charles
could I be granted temporary unlimited updinging priviliges so I can give that 100000 updings?
| 1416 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:40:08am |
re: #1407 Charles
By the way, I'm finished with trying to explain to thin-skinned fanatics that I'm not denigrating people of faith by being opposed to pseudo-science. It's an attempt to manipulate me into shutting up. Some people threaten me with hell, some people whine about being offended, some people tell me I'm dividing conservatives. It's all crap.
From now on, I'm simply taking away the accounts of people who insist on being offended where no offense is given.
I'm offended!
/
| 1417 |
phoenixgirl Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:40:21am |
re: #1410 vagabond trader
He IS the most cosmopolitan metrosexual potus we've ever had. I daresay his chills were more from the fact that he has the physique of Olive Oyl
and maybe even viral or vile or both! move over clinton and carter!
| 1418 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:40:22am |
re: #1346 MJ
Global warming hypocrite alert:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
Somebody, please, calculate the increased size of the White House carbon footprint caused by this preference for being surrounded by warm air instead of warm clothing. Thermostat setting — 75°? 78?
Good grief, that's a fuckin' sauna! My thermostat never gets above 65F in the winter, and usually is set near 61-63F.
| 1419 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:40:36am |
re: #1405 tfc3rid
It's a Crescent of Embrace.
I don't see that symbol as a crescent. There is a "sun" in the center, and around it, top half of the logo, is an "umbra" emanating from the "glow."
Nothing in the bottom of the logo is a crescent, and the shape at the very top is not even crescent shaped.
What am I missing?
| 1420 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:40:47am |
re: #1407 Charles
By the way, I'm finished with trying to explain to thin-skinned fanatics that I'm not denigrating people of faith by being opposed to pseudo-science. It's an attempt to manipulate me into shutting up. Some people threaten me with hell, some people whine about being offended, some people tell me I'm dividing conservatives. It's all crap.
From now on, I'm simply taking away the accounts of people who insist on being offended where no offense is given.
The perpetually offended will be filing an ADA suit shortly.
////
| 1422 |
Buck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:41:00am |
re: #914 Kenneth
Great post. Should be a favorite for every lizard.
All I want to say is that you are a Lizard G-d in my book. Right up there with Zombie. Your contribution has (as far as I know) never really been fully acknowledged. I actually seek out your posts.
AND I am so very proud that you are a fellow Canadian.
Thank you.
| 1423 |
MJ Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:41:03am |
Lebanese Author Farid Salman:
'Obama Was Brought To Power By the Jews... Before They Establish the Semitic Middle East, They Want to Tear America to Shreds... Obama Will Be the Cause...'
[Link: www.memritv.org...]
Guess that PR campaign ain't working so well....
| 1424 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:41:14am |
| 1425 |
vxbush Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:41:44am |
re: #1401 yma o hyd
If he wants to be hot - why can't he do what so many of us do here in the UK, and stick a hot-water-bottle under his jumper?
Works a treat!
And saves the planet ...
:-)))
Heh. Only he would need about ten, as he has no body fat to hold all that heat in. Imagine that photo op....
| 1426 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:41:54am |
re: #1419 Walter L. Newton
I don't see that symbol as a crescent. There is a "sun" in the center, and around it, top half of the logo, is an "umbra" emanating from the "glow."
Nothing in the bottom of the logo is a crescent, and the shape at the very top is not even crescent shaped.
What am I missing?
Are you talking about the Obama campaign logo? If you scroll down, there's a a logo for the "Obama Youth" that is crescent-shaped.
| 1427 |
J.S. Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:42:19am |
| 1428 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:42:22am |
Anyone else having trouble with typing? My letters type in slooooow and get jumbled.
| 1429 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:42:22am |
re: #1397 Killgore Trout
Islamists retort....
A response to Attenborough’s Guardian comments on God and evolution.Same talking points as the Christian creationists.
And thats exactly the point overlooked by all those who think a bit of creationism is neither here nor there, why the fuss ...
I for one do not want yet another door to open, to let Islamism into our schools and lives!
| 1430 |
VegasRick Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:42:45am |
| 1431 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:42:47am |
re: #1426 gclaghorn
Are you talking about the Obama campaign logo? If you scroll down, there's a a logo for the "Obama Youth" that is crescent-shaped.
Obama Youth.......
How catchy
| 1432 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:42:48am |
re: #1413 Kenneth
1. The French are funny.
To laugh at, or with?
(One wild, sweeping generalization, but which has been supported by French friends who live in the US; the French basically don't "get" self-deprecating humor.)
| 1433 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:42:48am |
re: #1401 yma o hyd
If he wants to be hot - why can't he do what so many of us do here in the UK, and stick a hot-water-bottle under his jumper?
Works a treat!
And saves the planet ...
:-)))
Which is worse, keeping warm with interns or turning up the thermostat?
| 1434 |
bosforus Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:43:00am |
re: #1407 Charles
From now on, I'm simply taking away the accounts of people who insist on being offended where no offense is given.
I take offense to that methodology.
/////
| 1436 |
gregg Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:43:31am |
Mitch McConnell Needs Some Balls
Operation Send a Pair
The DontGo Movement is teaming up with RedState to launch the new “Send a Pair” campaign. The campaign is in place to help Mitch McConnell obtain some much needed “boldness”. Apparently, Mitch McConnell isn’t able to locate a pair of his own, so we’re going to give him some assistance.
Mission: Locate any items that could resemble a “pair” if you catch the drift, and ship them to Mitch McConnell with a your opinion about the apparent lack of will to take a serious stand on issues important to the movement.
These items could be golf balls, novelty items (think Spencers, eBay, Amazon for inspiration), or real items such as various “dried scrotum” products found in grocery stores (make sure we can actually ship this sort of thing first). RedState has a good set of balls for sale here.
[Link: www.dontgomovement.com...]
| 1437 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:43:32am |
re: #1428 vagabond trader
Anyone else having trouble with typing? My letters type in slooooow and get jumbled.
Are you having a sympathy whiskey for Miss Trixie?
| 1438 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:43:45am |
Hey, Charles. I am listening to a jazz radio station that I created at Pandora and Tommy Emanuel's 'Beatles Medley' just happened to come up.
| 1439 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:43:56am |
re: #1419 Walter L. Newton
I was being sarcastic... I think it's just an extension of his big 'O' logo...
| 1440 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:44:00am |
re: #1408 Killgore Trout
I liked it. Not too much Desmond and the time travel stuff made sense and seemed plausible. I love the busty little blonde chick with the South African/New Zealand accent. I hope to see much more of her.
Theory. Richard Alpert called he "Ellie." We now know Daniel Faraday's mother is probably Eloise Hawkings. Daniel, while walking with that character to the bomb, said she looked familiar.
Next step. The soldier is a young Charles Widmore. Charles + Ellie = babies = Faraday and Penny.
Charles and Ellie left the Island, both are trying to get back, both for different reasons. It's a family feud. Mom and Dad.
| 1441 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:44:09am |
re: #1407 Charles
By the way, I'm finished with trying to explain to thin-skinned fanatics that I'm not denigrating people of faith by being opposed to pseudo-science. It's an attempt to manipulate me into shutting up. Some people threaten me with hell, some people whine about being offended, some people tell me I'm dividing conservatives. It's all crap.
From now on, I'm simply taking away the accounts of people who insist on being offended where no offense is given.
Do we get a heads up or will they just vanish in the ether?
| 1442 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:44:16am |
re: #1368 Walter L. Newton
No wife anymore. But you're right, and that is the point I am trying to make. These kind of handout are only for people that won't work and are happy helping out the "system" by working with it.
Oh, you mean future democratic voters. Yes.
| 1443 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:44:18am |
re: #1427 J.S.
What's "ois"? (was that supposed to be: "Mais oui"?)
Kenneth economizes on vowels, and passes the savings on to u.
| 1444 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:44:34am |
re: #1435 taxfreekiller
Charles,
On the other hand it would be somewhat of interest if we could invite some of the leaders of ID on lgf's and have a open chat with them for all to see.
Nothing like facts and truth to clear the air.
I don't believe that they would have civil discussions.
They'd rant and rave.
I say, PLEASE DON'T !
| 1445 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:44:42am |
re: #1401 yma o hyd
Still have the little blue baby warmer I bought in the UK years ago.Works like a charm!
| 1446 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:44:49am |
re: #1422 Buck
Wow... I'm humbled. "a lizard G-d"... that's pretty much the nicest compliment I've ever received. Thank you. I always look for your posts too. I am especially proud of all our fellow Canuck Lizards.
| 1447 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:44:52am |
Is that "Obama Youth" pin from a real group? There's no web site for them in Google. I'm skeptical about this one.
| 1449 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:44:54am |
re: #1433 jcm
Which is worse, keeping warm with interns or turning up the thermostat?
Jimmah turned it down and put on a cardigan.
| 1450 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:45:06am |
re: #1407 Charles
People insisting on being offended where no offense is being given ... ahh, where have we come across such mindset before ...
| 1451 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:45:17am |
re: #1421 Iron Fist
Women warriors? I know I'm going to misspell this - Boedacia - fought the Romans in what is now Britain
| 1452 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:45:17am |
re: #1428 vagabond trader
Anyone else having trouble with typing? My letters type in slooooow and get jumbled.
You, um, must be, ah, using, um ah, the Obama, um, keyboard.
| 1453 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:45:19am |
re: #1426 gclaghorn
Are you talking about the Obama campaign logo? If you scroll down, there's a a logo for the "Obama Youth" that is crescent-shaped.
Ok, I only saw the logo at the top of the page, the logo he used during the campaign. I'll go back and poke around the site more.
That's why I asked for a clarification.
| 1456 |
lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:46:03am |
re: #1418 Honorary Yooper
I'm with you. I set mine to go down to 60 at night and when I'm not home. When we're at home, it goes as high as 66.
| 1457 |
Pyrocles Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:46:13am |
You Jews out there have all the fun! We gentiles want a piece of the world-domination pie :(
/////////
re: #1423 MJ
Lebanese Author Farid Salman:
'Obama Was Brought To Power By the Jews... Before They Establish the Semitic Middle East, They Want to Tear America to Shreds... Obama Will Be the Cause...'
[Link: www.memritv.org...]
Guess that PR campaign ain't working so well....
| 1458 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:46:24am |
Will Reza be given the banning stick for being offended?
| 1459 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:46:35am |
re: #1447 Charles
Is that "Obama Youth" pin from a real group? There's no web site for them in Google. I'm skeptical about this one.
I was looking for it, too and couldn't find anything.
| 1460 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:46:38am |
| 1461 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:46:51am |
re: #1421 Iron Fist
I don't know who would rise up as a leader. I like Sarah Palin, but I'll admit that I'd prefer a man if we are electing a War Chief. To do otherwise goes against everything that has been true (or accepted) in roughly 5000 years of human history. I can only think of one woman war leader, ever. That would be Joan of Arc.can anybody think of another?
Boudica, who led a revolt against the Romans in England. Deborah, one of the Judges of Israel. But no one in the modern world.
| 1462 |
Macker Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:46:57am |
re: #1415 Shug
could I be granted temporary unlimited updinging priviliges so I can give that 100000 updings?
Careful! Charles may grant that to a whole bunch of Lizards, then he'll have 1,000,000 updings!
| 1463 |
turn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:46:57am |
re: #1368 Walter L. Newton
Sorry about the wife gaffe. Speaking of gaffes, wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall if Biden got all drunked up at the cotail social O's putting on?
| 1464 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:47:15am |
re: #1448 Iron Fist
No, to Michelle, abortions are intended for the unwashed masses, nothing to do with her.
| 1465 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:47:15am |
re: #1439 tfc3rid
I was being sarcastic... I think it's just an extension of his big 'O' logo...
The "O" leads us to this.... The Obama Salute. The "O" salute leads us to goatse. That leads us to the irrevocable conclusion.....
WE ARE SO SCREWED!
| 1466 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:47:23am |
re: #1447 Charles
Is that "Obama Youth" pin from a real group? There's no web site for them in Google. I'm skeptical about this one.
That was going to be my next question. "Obama Youth." I can't find that as a plan, project, what ever from the administration.
This smells!
| 1468 |
Buck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:47:45am |
re: #1407 Charles
I think you need a vacation Charles. I mean that with respect.
You have stood on guard duty for years without a meaningful break.
Is there anyway for you to get two weeks off on a tropical island with nothing to do but relax?
| 1469 |
Macker Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:48:16am |
re: #1447 Charles
Is that "Obama Youth" pin from a real group? There's no web site for them in Google. I'm skeptical about this one.
When I checked obamayouth.com, some pages were missing. Then I discovered it's being hosted by godaddy.
/ugh
| 1470 |
tfc3rid Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:48:28am |
re: #1456 lawhawk
We lawys keep the place cool... Windows open even in mid Winter...
You know, the Borg liked it very warm... Just sayin'
| 1471 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:48:40am |
| 1472 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:48:47am |
re: #1468 Buck
I think you need a vacation Charles. I mean that with respect.
You have stood on guard duty for years without a meaningful break.
Is there anyway for you to get two weeks off on a tropical island with nothing to do but relax?
Can you imagine how long the dead thread would be?
| 1473 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:48:50am |
re: #1463 turn
Sorry about the wife gaffe. Speaking of gaffes, wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall if Biden got all drunked up at the cotail social O's putting on?
I don't know. A lot of us have gotten drunk, on purpose. Sure I would like to hear something, but that's true in most cases. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in most Lizard's houses, especially when they are online.
| 1474 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:48:51am |
re: #1249 vapig
" your acknowledging that the somehow the govenment has a right to now dictate to them on their day to day business practices greatly distresses me!"
Why? Does it distress you that shareholders supposedly have a say in what business does? They don't want the government to dictate policies or proceedures to 'em, then they shouldn't ask the government for that money - A HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY TOO!
My take is government shouldn't bail out any business without getting some "shareholder" status and - depending on how much dough they put in, at least a seat on the board of directors.
Please remember that everytime we talk about "government" injecting money into a business what we are really saying is "taxpayers injecting money into a business". And I don't see why Citi or any other business, frankly, needs even one corporate jet. But that's just me, nitpicking away. I want to know what the hell they did to go from the second largest PRIVATE bank to what - 121st?
| 1475 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:48:58am |
re: #1425 vxbush
Heh. Only he would need about ten, as he has no body fat to hold all that heat in. Imagine that photo op....
Mind-boggling ...
OTOH, I know of a few people with pretty low body fat, they don't need no hottie botties, but then, they're professional sportsmen.
Like, rugby players ...
| 1476 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:49:23am |
re: #1463 turn
Sorry about the wife gaffe. Speaking of gaffes, wouldn't it be great to be a fly on the wall if Biden got all drunked up at the cotail social O's putting on?
I think Biden's one of those folks for whom drinking makes them more coherent.
| 1478 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:49:40am |
Overnight, someone signed up my email address for at least a dozen new mailing lists.
| 1479 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:50:01am |
re: #1440 Walter L. Newton
Theory. Richard Alpert called he "Ellie." We now know Daniel Faraday's mother is probably Eloise Hawkings. Daniel, while walking with that character to the bomb, said she looked familiar.
Next step. The soldier is a young Charles Widmore. Charles + Ellie = babies = Faraday and Penny.
Charles and Ellie left the Island, both are trying to get back, both for different reasons. It's a family feud. Mom and Dad.
Wow, I think you've already figured it out. I also liked the rerun of last week's episode with subtitles. There was a lot of stuff I didn't catch.
| 1480 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:50:06am |
| 1482 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:50:56am |
| 1483 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:51:24am |
re: #1448 Iron Fist
If she is, and she really wants to warm the cold recesses of the Leftists' hearts, she could have an abortion.
Funny you should mention that. I had a conversation with a liberal friend last night, who in passing mentioned an acquaintance of his, a single mother of 30 years old, who is in a stable, professional career. He immediately added something about "this proves once again why family planning is so crucial... this never should have happened." He also mentioned "unwanted children". I was gobsmacked. I asked him: I thought the idea was supposed to be "right to choose"? And didn't she choose to have her child? Isn't this patently NOT an "unwanted child"? And from what you've told me, it's not like this child is growing up abused, neglected, in dire poverty... are you really saying you're literally pro-abortion?
(To his credit, he admitted that maybe he should reconsider.)
| 1484 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:51:27am |
re: #1478 Charles
Overnight, someone signed up my email address for at least a dozen new mailing lists.
How generous.
Can you figure out who (I have my suspicions) and return the favor?
| 1485 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:51:32am |
re: #1433 jcm
Which is worse, keeping warm with interns or turning up the thermostat?
Heh.
Depends on what we regard as being wrose: a bit of extra-curricular rumpy-pumpy or killing the planet ...
Thinking about that - with Pelosi's help, watch that this rumpy-pumpy isn't going to be made into a legal obligation ...
| 1486 |
J.S. Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:51:41am |
re: #1460 Kenneth
for some reason (?) I see the word "ois" and I'm thinking "eggs." (thus, it becomes: "But my eggs!")
| 1487 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:51:47am |
Charles:
Links from BarackObama.com
An event for "Obama Youth Organizers"
Obama Youth Community Service Rally
More soon...
| 1488 |
Miss Trixie Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:51:50am |
kenneth
What Buck said and I concur heartily with fellow Canucksicles.
*applause*
| 1489 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:51:55am |
#1421 Iron Fist
Margaret Thatcher & Golda Meir were pretty darn good wartime leaders.
| 1490 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:51:59am |
re: #1478 Charles
Overnight, someone signed up my email address for at least a dozen new mailing lists.
That's mature. /
| 1491 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:52:55am |
re: #1480 Walter L. Newton
Is there a online source for a feed?
I suspect most news stations will carry it. I'll be listening to it on my radio at AM 890, WLS.
| 1492 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:52:56am |
re: #1478 Charles
Overnight, someone signed up my email address for at least a dozen new mailing lists.
How thoughtful.
/
The only polite thing to do is return the favor...
| 1493 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:52:58am |
re: #1478 Charles
Overnight, someone signed up my email address for at least a dozen new mailing lists.
I'm sorry - I though you wanted to get great deals on Canadian Viagra.
/
| 1496 |
VegasRick Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:53:36am |
| 1497 |
albusteve Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:53:39am |
re: #1473 Walter L. Newton
I don't know. A lot of us have gotten drunk, on purpose. Sure I would like to hear something, but that's true in most cases. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in most Lizard's houses, especially when they are online.
I live alone, but I argue with myself sometimes
| 1498 |
Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:53:58am |
re: #1478 Charles
Overnight, someone signed up my email address for at least a dozen new mailing lists.
Ok, but you really shouldn't take those ads for enlargement patches personally. Besides, OR's girlfriend tells me they didn't work at all.
| 1499 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:54:21am |
re: #1478 Charles
Overnight, someone signed up my email address for at least a dozen new mailing lists.
Returning the favor is always fair play. That, and give 'em a goatse at the same time. :-)
They're guaranteed never to forget the "experience".
| 1500 |
tjseagrove Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:54:28am |
re: #3 gmsc
"If we are going to teach creation science as an alternative to evolution, then we should also teach the stork theory as an alternative to biological reproduction."
-Judith Hayes
Science can test this in the present...and it is repeatable.
| 1501 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:54:32am |
re: #1479 Killgore Trout
Wow, I think you've already figured it out. I also liked the rerun of last week's episode with subtitles. There was a lot of stuff I didn't catch.
Who knows. As a writer (and of course a fan), I pay real close attention to the "point of view" style of the writing, and they play very clever games with the dialog. Everything I just proposed could certainly turn out to be 100 percent accurate, and at the same time I could actually give you proof, from the same show, that nothing I said could be true.
That's my attraction to the show. The mental debate that goes on in my mind. Hell, right now I can't afford mental stimulation like traveling and getting down with other cultures and stuff like that, so this show is a "mental" vacation for me.
Keeps me young, I've heard.
| 1502 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:54:32am |
re: #1489 Kenneth
#1421 Iron Fist
Margaret Thatcher & Golda Meir were pretty darn good wartime leaders.
I think Fist meant as leading from the field, which isn't a quality necessary to be CinC of the U.S. You can throw Indira Gandhi in the list of wartime leaders, too.
| 1503 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:54:51am |
re: #1288 yma o hyd
Good afternoon {yma} - say, did the gossip talk mention who the father is?!?
/
| 1504 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:54:54am |
re: #1468 Buck
I think you need a vacation Charles. I mean that with respect.
You have stood on guard duty for years without a meaningful break.
Is there anyway for you to get two weeks off on a tropical island with nothing to do but relax?
He can run the blog from the beach.
Drink in hand
Laptop
camera for posting interesting pics
Just pick a resort with WiFi
| 1505 |
Ford_Prefect Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:55:51am |
re: #1493 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I'm sorry - I though you wanted to get great deals on Canadian Viagra.
/
Does Canadian Viagra make you want to dress up in woman's clothing and hang around in bars?
/ just kidding Canucks
| 1506 |
redstateredneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:56:35am |
re: #1487 gclaghorn
Charles:
Links from BarackObama.com
An event for "Obama Youth Organizers"
Obama Youth Community Service Rally
More soon...
Didn't check them all but aren't those campaign events?
| 1507 |
tjseagrove Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:56:45am |
re: #1504 Shug
And who is to say he isn't there already? :)
| 1508 |
WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:57:20am |
re: #1483 Occasional Reader
Right to Choose Abortion...that's what it really means.
| 1510 |
Miss Trixie Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:57:56am |
redstateskank
"sympathy whiskey"
HAHAHA!
*snicker*
*snort*
:D
| 1513 |
sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:00:25am |
re: #1505 Ford_Prefect
Does Canadian Viagra make you want to dress up in woman's clothing and hang around in bars?
/ just kidding Canucks
Why, you loking for an excude?
"But officer, I don;t normally do this! It's becuase I ingested Canadian Viagra"
| 1514 |
yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:00:29am |
re: #1494 Iron Fist
See, that's the level of evolution that I just don't buy. The existence of mules pretty well proves that horses and donkeys had a common ancestor (or group of common ancestors). It doesn't mean that horses, donkeys, and Oak trees in the woods share a common ancestor if one goes back far enough. Although the concept that everything had a common ancestor with everything else would be pretty much like things are depicted in Genisis, with an "Adam and Eve" that are probably not human, but nevertheless are a common ancestor to all.
Erm, while my post was pretty much tongue-in-cheek, and while I certainly concur that its not about finding a a sort of 'Adam & eve'- ancestor, it is nevertheless pretty well established, both from DNA comparisons and from embryology that the common biological processes which are expressed in the diversity of living beings we see right now can be traced back to these very early life forms.
| 1515 |
sattv4u2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:00:54am |
re: #1513 sattv4u2
Why, you loking for an
excudeEXCUSE?"But officer, I don;t normally do this! It's becuase I ingested Canadian Viagra"
| 1516 |
SurferDoc Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:02:38am |
re: #1440 Walter L. Newton
Theory. Richard Alpert called he "Ellie." We now know Daniel Faraday's mother is probably Eloise Hawkings. Daniel, while walking with that character to the bomb, said she looked familiar.
Next step. The soldier is a young Charles Widmore. Charles + Ellie = babies = Faraday and Penny.
Charles and Ellie left the Island, both are trying to get back, both for different reasons. It's a family feud. Mom and Dad.
Good analysis. I missed him calling her Ellie. I had guessed she was the girl in the bed or the sister. I'll have to call my "Lost" buddy and tell him. He gets obsessive about these things (in a good way).
| 1518 |
avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:03:25am |
| 1519 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:04:16am |
re: #1447 Charles
Check Here. It's still under construction
| 1520 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:04:24am |
re: #1307 taxfreekiller
Twenty is too many; no more than 12 and only two know.
More efficient, less cumbesome.
| 1521 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:06:55am |
re: #1407 Charles
By the way, I'm finished with trying to explain to thin-skinned fanatics that I'm not denigrating people of faith by being opposed to pseudo-science. It's an attempt to manipulate me into shutting up. Some people threaten me with hell, some people whine about being offended, some people tell me I'm dividing conservatives. It's all crap.
From now on, I'm simply taking away the accounts of people who insist on being offended where no offense is given.
Thank you, Charles. I welcome debate, but you are right to punt those who only want to annoy and intimidate you.
| 1522 |
Digital Display Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:09:59am |
re: #1325 Sprite
Just showing you yourself, lil missy.
Congrads on your efforts today..Charles Down dinged you...
Keep digging for the finish line..Give a 110%.
| 1523 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:10:58am |
re: #1363 jcm
Hey, hi jcm! "First the good news, triple stimulus rations at lunch!
Now for the bad news, after lunch.... the Captain wants to go water skiing."
Uh, can I tie the rope to the ship that the Captain will be holding on to while he's water skiing? Please?!
| 1524 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:12:22am |
re: #1370 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey" When the Cuban troops came back from Angola, Castro had their very popular general tried on trumped up charges & executed."
Si, es verdad!
| 1525 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:15:29am |
re: #1390 redstateredneck
Na, del Torro won't believe it. He's "in Character" doncha know.
Grown men dressing up and playing out their fantasies is never a really pretty sight unless it's in the theater, movies or TV.
| 1527 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:20:19am |
re: #1421 Iron Fist
Ah, y'all might want to re-check Maggie Thatcher and Golda Meir.
Not leading as in charging out in front of the troops, but wartime political leaders absolutely. I think Sarah Palin is the real deal.
| 1529 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:25:12am |
re: #1522 HoosierHoops
She's toast. Charles Blocked her.
| 1530 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:26:21am |
| 1531 |
realwest Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:28:46am |
re: #1498 Kenneth
KENNETH! PULEEZE! O.R. is a happily married newlywed!
| 1533 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:40:01am |
re: #837 right_wing2
Since we're teaching evolution, can we at least stop teaching the parts that have been proven to be hoaxes? Let's just start with these 3:
- The classic pictures of Peppered moths on trees at the time of the Industrial Revolution
- The Miller-Urey experiments being based on premises about the make-up of the atmosphere which are no longer accepted
- The Haeckel embryo comparisons being fraudulent
As far as I know, the only one of these three that even comes close to being a deliberate "hoax" would be the Haeckel embryo comparisons -- although it would perhaps be truer to say that Haeckel had "fudged" or "sexed up" his drawings in order to more dramatically support his favored (and wrong) notion that "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny." However, Haeckel quite obviously didn't hoax the world by inventing a false claim that mammalian embyros (for example) have gill-like structures; rather, he exaggerated the similarities between the gill-like structures on a mammalian embryo and the actual gills on a fish embryo.
As to the peppered moths -- they were once widely assumed to be a "smoking gun" of natural selection in action, and it's true that many biology textbooks presented the peppered moth story in an over-simplified way because it provided such an easily-grasped model of natural selection. It's also true that the famous experiments by Bernard Kettlewell in the 1950s suffered from some methodological limitations, and you can argue that Kettlewell unwittingly introduced these limitations because he had preconceived notions about why the ratios of light and dark moths were changing. But flawed experimental design does not make a scientific "hoax," even if introduced by a researcher's biases.
Finally, regarding the Miller-Urey experiments: you're saying that because the experiments relied on mistaken assumptions about the chemistry of Earth's early atmosphere, that makes the experiments themselves a "hoax"?
Sheesh, I'm going to make a guess of my own: you lazily cut-and-pasted these examples of "evolutionary hoaxes" from some Creationist website without having ANY FUCKING IDEA what you were reading.
To test this hypothesis, I did a Google search on the following string taken from your post: "Miller-Urey experiments being based on premises."
Lo and behold, Google turned up this "Truth About Evolution" page, featuring a seven-item list of evolutionary "fairy tales." And number 6 on the list is:
6. The truth about the Miller-Urey experiment being based on premises no longer accepted.
And surprise, surprise -- here are items #4 and #5:
4. The truth about the peppered moth experiment.
5. The truth about Haeckel's embryos being a fraud perpetrated by a leading German eugenicist.
(Note: It may not be the case that right_wing2 copied these items directly from the linked page, but rather that the page author and right_wing2 both cribbed from another source -- possibly Ann Coulter's Godless.)
In any case, right_wing2, U R A NIDIOT.
| 1534 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 29, 2009 9:46:17am |
re: #1533 Throbert McGee
There's nothing unusual about this kind of cut-and-paste nonsense from creationists, unfortunately. I've learned from these discussions that whenever a creationist cites a quotation, or a specific scientific issue, you should Google the phrase they use -- because 9 times out of 10 it's a direct cut-and-paste from a creationist quote mine or website.
You're right, they have no real understanding of these issues, they're just parroting the talking points because that's what fundamentalist preachers tell them to do -- go out and do battle with the evil evolutionists.
So, over and over, we get:
* The Miller Urey experiments
* Peppered moths
* Haeckel's drawings
* The "Cambrian Explosion"
* Irreducible complexity
* Piltdown Man
* etc. etc. etc.
Every single one of these talking points has been conclusively debunked for years, but they just keep recycling them.
| 1535 |
UberInfidel67 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 10:04:17am |
re: #780 ThinkRight Not at all. Hopefully I will make it to the Disturbed/Lacuna Coil concert
| 1536 |
Caboose Thu, Jan 29, 2009 10:05:03am |
This came up on the iPod this AM and since there are fun little nuclear exchanges resulting from the topic, I though that this was worth tossing out there for your dining and dancing enjoyment:
Jocko Homo by DEVO
They tell us that
We lost our tails
Evolving up
From little snails
I say its all
Just wind in sails
Are we not men?
We are devo!
We're pinheads now
We are not whole
We're pinheads all
Jocko homo
Are we not men?
D-e-v-o
Monkey men all
In business suit
Teachers and critics
All dance the poot
Are we not men?
We are devo!
Are we not pins?
D-e-v-o
God made man
But he used the monkey to do it
Apes in the plan
We're all here to prove it
I can walk like an ape
Talk like an ape
I can do what a monkey can do
God made man
But a monkey supplied the glue
We must repeat
O.k. lets go!
| 1537 |
Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 10:21:10am |
re: #1534 Charles
I've learned from these discussions that whenever a creationist cites a quotation, or a specific scientific issue, you should Google the phrase they use -- because 9 times out of 10 it's a direct cut-and-paste from a creationist quote mine or website.
Speaking of cut-and-pasted quotes, here's one of my own, from that same Creationist page I linked above:
...the entire fossil record [lacks] the vast number of transitional species we ought to see (if it were true).
This means that there are no fossils of things like a dog with antennae or a fish with hair.
Which suggests that it's a fool's errand trying to provide hardcore Creationists with examples of actual "transitional fossils," as they are quite prepared to move the goalposts all the way to mermaids and hippogriffs.
| 1538 |
Caboose Thu, Jan 29, 2009 10:23:38am |
re: #1376 Shug
If the white house just had it's tires inflated and got regular tune-ups, they could use less heat.
/
Read this month's CAR & DRIVER and check out Csaba Csere - The Steering Column for the "tune-up" fallacy (unless you are driving an ancient beater that doesn't have an electronic ignition). The column is not available on-line yet, looks to be two month in arrears.
Just goes to show how little The One knows about the real world and how it works.
| 1539 |
ladycatnip Thu, Jan 29, 2009 10:24:30am |
Charles is right - this doesn't pass the smell test. I shoulda done my homework and fact-checked that crescent logo for Obama Youth. Apparently this comes from an unofficial Obama site where they used part of his youth logo and created the crescent. Yet another blog claims this was up on his site and has since been removed.
I'm dizzy from looking at hundreds of pages of campaign buttons, and so far none are on any official sites. Mea culpa.
| 1540 |
Joan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:44:00pm |
re: #1461 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Boudica, who led a revolt against the Romans in England. Deborah, one of the Judges of Israel. But no one in the modern world.
Joan. Just a thought: We've got a Warbler, not a Warrior in the lead.
And, although I guess I have to stand for equal rights in military careers for women, I'd point out that in the cases we've just listed, Boudica, Deborah, Joan--there was a void in leadership. They didn't draft all the other women to be warriors. These were leaders, maybe they were fearless and confident in chaotic circumstances, maybe they were cool headed or strategists--Deborah was I think. Anyway, nobody has proven to me that an Amazon Army is the way to go. I'm just sayin'
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