Thursday Afternoon Hopin’
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When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
— Robert A. Heinlein, The Cat Who Walks Through Walls
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:44:17pm |
Oh…thank Obama for this blessed open thread.
/runs, ducks
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:44:43pm |
Hopen. Hopen.
Damn. Still no change.
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:46:54pm |
Why are the libs constantly running in circles screaming and shouting?
Is it because they got no unicorn?
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:02pm |
When in doubt, push a lot of buttons.
/forget where I heard that one
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Hengineer Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:23pm |
Speaking of Heinlein, I really enjoyed his books.
The Red Planet was a favorite
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maddogg Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:26pm |
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
perhaps Mr. Heinlein would allow me to substitute a forlorn howl…
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:36pm |
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:40pm |
Hi all you Hopen Honcos!
Done your taxes yet? Ya might want to consider decreasing your expemtions ….. The “O” is gonna need the money.
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:48:15pm |
Article: Don’t Strengthen Hamas
You listening OBAMA?
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:48:53pm |
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
Now you’ve done it. Revealed the libtards super secret Global Warming strategy………
/
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tjseagrove Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:49:07pm |
Listening to the IL Senators, it does not look good for Blabovich…as if it did anyway.
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Cathypop Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:49:19pm |
re: #13 eschew_obfuscation
Hi all you Hopen Honcos!
Done your taxes yet? Ya might want to consider decreasing your expemtions ….. The “O” is gonna need the money.
1451 days and counting
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ThinkRight Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:02pm |
This is only week two of CHANGE and we have kissed up to the radical muslims and the Taliban has endorsed Obama
The dems are going to bankrupt the U.S. and Algore has put that bankruptcy on the fast track.
We are so screwed
We might not make it 4 years
A repost
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:03pm |
re: #14 WriterMom
Article: Don’t Strengthen Hamas
You listening OBAMA?
The Wizard of O’s doesn’t listen ….. he pronounces and pontificates …. and the seas recede. :~)
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:22pm |
Bizarre random synaptic firing… ever notice how “Obama” rhymes with “Yo’ Mama”?
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maddogg Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:24pm |
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
Actually, thats my Wife’s emergency response plan.
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:33pm |
re: #14 WriterMom
Article: Don’t Strengthen Hamas
You listening OBAMA?
I think your going to need one of these things.
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A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:51:14pm |
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout PANIC!
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:51:19pm |
re: #21 MrSilverDragon
Bizarre random synaptic firing… ever notice how “Obama” rhymes with “Yo’ Mama”?
racist!
/
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MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:51:27pm |
Has the Pentagon ever had a plan to take over the Executive Branch?
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:51:50pm |
Attention Everyone!
They are on to us and have discovered our secret location!
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:10pm |
re: #24 A Kiwi Infidel
When in danger or in doubt,
run in circles, scream and shoutPANIC!
DO PANIC EMMER EFFERS!- Hitchhiker ahhhhh
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:11pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:21pm |
re: #18 ThinkRight
This is only week two of CHANGE and we have kissed up to the radical muslims and the Taliban has endorsed Obama
The dems are going to bankrupt the U.S. and Algore has put that bankruptcy on the fast track.
We are so screwed
We might not make it 4 years
“Everything going exactly according to plan” - *libtard gleefully rubbing hands together*
/
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:37pm |
There’s been a national overdose on hopium.
Wonder how bad the hangover’s gonna be.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:48pm |
re: #26 MandyManners
Has the Pentagon ever had a plan to take over the Executive Branch?
Eisenhower?
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:53:01pm |
When in doubt, keep yer effen mouth shut …
From Israellycool comes this link to a report about the terrible,a wful school ‘massacre’ by that oh-so-bad IDF: It didn’t happen!
Anybody surprised?
Me neither …
But that UN-twat still has the effrontery to come up with this:
‘“I know no one was killed in the school,” Mr. Ging said. “But 41 innocent people were killed in the street outside the school. Many of those people had taken refuge in the school and wandered out onto the street.
“The state of Israel still has to answer for that. What did they know and what care did they take?”’
Israel has to answer for people walking out into the street?
And has that twat ever asked what care the hamassholes took when firing their missles?
Thought not ..
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:53:44pm |
re: #26 MandyManners
Has the Pentagon ever had a plan to take over the Executive Branch?
Ya’ never know. Maybe.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:53:50pm |
re: #9 Hengineer
Speaking of Heinlein, I really enjoyed his books.
The Red Planet was a favorite
Gave mine away …
Must see to get them, second-hand, again …
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:53:51pm |
CAIR cry’s to FBI about LGF.
FBI turns agents to monitor LGF.
Agents learn about CAIR via LGF.
FBI to CAIR: ‘GAZE’.
Agents sign up on registration day at LGF.
I can ‘hope’.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:11pm |
re: #32 Honorary Yooper
There’s been a national overdose on hopium.
Wonder how bad the hangover’s gonna be.
painful and expensive…no lube and no mercy
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:15pm |
Someone explain to the 0ne that just because he’s in charge of the Executive branch doesn’t mean he’s supposed to execute the US.
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Silhouette Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:22pm |
I refuse to be a sheep.
I shall shout and run around in octagons.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:32pm |
OK, we have a ton of bloviating right now by the senators. We’ll see how long it takes them to vote for/against the impeachment of Blago.
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:41pm |
re: #21 MrSilverDragon
Bizarre random synaptic firing… ever notice how “Obama” rhymes with “Yo’ Mama”?
Also with “Oh crap, we’re screwed now”.
/
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:46pm |
I’ve been quoting that Heinlein saying for decades when people start to get worked up over problems. It’s wonderful to meet with it here, in a bastion of (generally speaking) reason. ;^)
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:53pm |
re: #36 yma o hyd
Gave mine away …
Must see to get them, second-hand, again …
I’m looking for a copy of “Have Space Suit Will Travel”
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:21pm |
Biden to make ‘major’ US foreign-policy speech in Munich
Vice President Joe Biden is to make a ‘major’ speech about the new US administration’s defence and foreign policy at the end of next week in Munich, the organizer of a German conference said Thursday.
Wolfgang Ischinger said the address at the annual Munich security conference would set out the position of the administration of President Barack Obama.
/how fun might this be?
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gregg Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:27pm |
I think the President’s plate is full:
The United Steelworkers union plans to reject a contract offer from Royal Dutch Shell Plc, setting the stage for a nationwide strike of 30,000 workers at U.S. refineries processing about two-thirds of the country’s oil.
One thing that has helped during this economic downturn is the much lower gas prices. If the refineries stop refining, what happens to the price of gas? Can you imagine Obama ordering the strikers back to work like Reagan did with PATCO?
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ThinkRight Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:36pm |
re: #37 Oh no…Sand People!
CAIR cry’s to FBI about LGF.
FBI turns agents to monitor LGF.
Agents learn about CAIR via LGF.
FBI to CAIR: ‘GAZE’.
Agents sign up on registration day at LGF.I can ‘hope’.
They help Charles monitor all you racist Islamophobes
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:38pm |
re: #42 Oh no…Sand People!
Also with “Oh crap, we’re screwed now”.
/
Well, that is a bit of a forced rhyme, but I can accept it.
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Tumulus11 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:10pm |
. Have your nukes, we won’t resist - but, please would you unclench that fist?
/
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:18pm |
re: #46 Killian Bundy
Biden to make ‘major’ US foreign-policy speech in Munich
/how fun might this be?
Is he going to return with a paper that promises “peace in our time”?
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Dustyvet Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:20pm |
re: #37 Oh no…Sand People!
CAIR cry’s to FBI about LGF.
FBI turns agents to monitor LGF.
Agents learn about CAIR via LGF.
FBI to CAIR: ‘GAZE’.
Agents sign up on registration day at LGF.I can ‘hope’.
Lizards with a badge…I like it…:)
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J.S. Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:25pm |
re: #46 Killian Bundy
Is that the Muslim capital Obama keeps talking about?
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:49pm |
re: #52 Kosh’s Shadow
Is he going to return with a paper that promises “peace in our time”?
wonder what momument he will pick to blovate from?
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logboy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:59pm |
re: #37 Oh no…Sand People!
CAIR cry’s to FBI about LGF.
FBI turns agents to monitor LGF.
Agents learn about CAIR via LGF.
FBI to CAIR: ‘GAZE’.
Agents sign up on registration day at LGF.I can ‘hope’.
That would explain the 25 quiet hatchlings yesterday.
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debutaunt Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:11pm |
re: #13 eschew_obfuscation
Hi all you Hopen Honcos!
Done your taxes yet? Ya might want to consider decreasing your expemtions ….. The “O” is gonna need the money.
Judge says Schwarzenegger can furlough workers
SACRAMENTO (AP) - A judge has sided with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in his bid to save money by forcing state workers to take days off without pay.
The two-day-a-month furloughs are scheduled to start next week.
Two state employee unions had challenged Schwarzenegger’s executive order, saying he did not have authority to order furloughs on his own. A Sacramento County Superior Court judge disagreed.
He also cited the state’s financial condition. California will be forced to make billions of dollars in cuts to close a deficit projected to hit $42 billion through June 2010.
In his temporary order Thursday, Judge Patrick Marlette said: “The current circumstances constitute an emergency.”
(Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:18pm |
re: #47 gregg
I think the President’s plate is full:
One thing that has helped during this economic downturn is the much lower gas prices. If the refineries stop refining, what happens to the price of gas? Can you imagine Obama ordering the strikers back to work like Reagan did with PATCO?
Can he? PATCO folks were federal employees I believe…
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Alaska Kim Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:28pm |
We Americans were damn tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November and removed all doubt….
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:31pm |
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:32pm |
Mitchell: Open Gaza crossings with PA
US Middle East envoy George Mitchell on Thursday said that the Gaza crossings must be opened in cooperation with the Palestinian Authority.
In a press conference Mitchell held with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah, Mitchell told reporters that “to be successful in preventing the illicit traffic of arms into Gaza there must be a mechanism to allow the flow of legal goods, and that should be with the participation of the Palestinian Authority.”
/is he kidding?
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:58:03pm |
re: #46 Killian Bundy
Biden to make ‘major’ US foreign-policy speech in Munich
/how fun might this be?
Ich bin ein Gerlymon.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:58:52pm |
re: #58 eschew_obfuscation
Can he? PATCO folks were federal employees I believe…
He will send them to frolic in the fields of hope…the valley of change…
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:58:58pm |
re: #46 Killian Bundy
Biden to make ‘major’ US foreign-policy speech in Munich
/how fun might this be?
This also might be very scary.
/hopenchange
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:12pm |
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:21pm |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:38pm |
re: #46 Killian Bundy
Biden to make ‘major’ US foreign-policy speech in Munich
/how fun might this be?
“Stand up for Wolfgang!”
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:43pm |
re: #61 Killian Bundy
Mitchell: Open Gaza crossings with PA
/is he kidding?
He’s stupid, but dead serious.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:48pm |
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A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:00:09pm |
re: #34 yma o hyd
When in doubt, keep yer effen mouth shut …
From Israellycool comes this link to a report about the terrible,a wful school ‘massacre’ by that oh-so-bad IDF: It didn’t happen!
Anybody surprised?
Me neither …But that UN-twat still has the effrontery to come up with this:
‘“I know no one was killed in the school,” Mr. Ging said. “But 41 innocent people were killed in the street outside the school. Many of those people had taken refuge in the school and wandered out onto the street.
“The state of Israel still has to answer for that. What did they know and what care did they take?”’Israel has to answer for people walking out into the street?
And has that twat ever asked what care the hamassholes took when firing their missles?
Thought not ..
But wait, the MSM will print it, the world will believe it………..
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:00:13pm |
GOP has deal with AG nominee Holder not to prosecute former Bush Administration officials in exchange for their support? Dirty deeds indeed.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:00:46pm |
re: #73 A Kiwi Infidel
But wait, the MSM will print it, the world will believe it………..
aaaaaand cue the crickets…:)
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:00:59pm |
re: #56 logboy
That would explain the 25 quiet hatchlings yesterday.
We know your out there! Come in with your hands up!
/
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thefallingman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:01:00pm |
Well, at least we as a nation are following his advice.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:01:23pm |
re: #59 Alaska Kim
We Americans were damn tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November and removed all doubt….
Heh… true dat
I continue to wonder why reasonably intelligent people regularly look to the rest of the world when deciding what the U.S. should do about this or that issue. Not that we have nothing to learn from others, but we’ve done a damn fine job with most issues relative to the rest of the world.
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A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:01:54pm |
re: #49 ThinkRight
They help Charles monitor all you racist Islamo
phobesrealists
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:06pm |
o raised the thermostat in the white house. he didn’t do the ‘green’ thing and put on a sweater, because he, like algore, is special.
only we need to be chilly in our homes so the rest of the world will be ok w/ us.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:07pm |
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DisturbedEma Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:25pm |
re: #81 nyc redneck
o raised the thermostat in the white house. he didn’t do the ‘green’ thing and put on a sweater, because he, like algore, is special.
only we need to be chilly in our homes so the rest of the world will be ok w/ us.
link?
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Oh no...Sand People! Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:32pm |
re: #56 logboy
That would explain the 25 quiet hatchlings yesterday.
Come to think about it, I am sure the LGF is banned on all Government computers.
If not, Obama will shortly.
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:33pm |
re: #78 eschew_obfuscation
Heh… true dat
I continue to wonder why reasonably intelligent people regularly look to the rest of the world when deciding what the U.S. should do about this or that issue. Not that we have nothing to learn from others, but we’ve done a damn fine job with most issues relative to the rest of the world.
Near as I can tell, the rest of the world is laughing behind their hand.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:38pm |
re: #78 eschew_obfuscation
Heh… true dat
I continue to wonder why reasonably intelligent people regularly look to the rest of the world when deciding what the U.S. should do about this or that issue. Not that we have nothing to learn from others, but we’ve done a damn fine job with most issues relative to the rest of the world.
It’s like telling the Super Bowl champs to listen to the Lions on how to do things.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:57pm |
An imprisoned ex-CIA spy and his son have been charged with renewing contact with the father’s former Russian handlers to get more money for espionage.
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
Once wasn’t enough for this traitor?
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:03:23pm |
re: #74 lawhawk
GOP has deal with AG nominee Holder not to prosecute former Bush Administration officials in exchange for their support? Dirty deeds indeed.
Idiots.
Why do they think he won’t turn round, once confirmed, and say circumstances have changed and he’s going to do it anyway?
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:03:50pm |
re: #57 debutaunt
Judge says Schwarzenegger can furlough workers
SACRAMENTO (AP) - A judge has sided with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in his bid to save money by forcing state workers to take days off without pay.The two-day-a-month furloughs are scheduled to start next week.
Two state employee unions had challenged Schwarzenegger’s executive order, saying he did not have authority to order furloughs on his own. A Sacramento County Superior Court judge disagreed.
He also cited the state’s financial condition. California will be forced to make billions of dollars in cuts to close a deficit projected to hit $42 billion through June 2010.
In his temporary order Thursday, Judge Patrick Marlette said: “The current circumstances constitute an emergency.”
(Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
paying taxes is the new patriotism.
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BatGuano Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:04:04pm |
I still have my paper back copy of that book from years ago.
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:04:25pm |
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:04:59pm |
Charles, have you seen this yet?
Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.
Administration shocked!
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:05:38pm |
re: #86 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
It’s like telling the Super Bowl champs to listen to the Lions on how to do things.
eggzacly!
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:05:41pm |
re: #83 DisturbedEma
[Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com…]
The NYT buried that part, and didn’t criticize the move, despite Obama railing on about how we needed to conserve energy and set our thermostats lower…
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thefallingman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:05:44pm |
re: #59 Alaska Kim
When I was stationed in South Korea I had a German tourist complain to me that we Americans never care what the rest of the world thinks about us. I asked him if Germans care what Americans think about them. He told me, “No. Why should they?”. I tried to get him to see that if Germans don’t consider our opinions we were under no obligation to consider theirs. The conversation deteriorated from there.
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:12pm |
Has anyone linked this story yet?
Report: Barack Obama’s Al Qaida initiative began months before his election
Barack Obama was working with Arab intermediaries to establish an unofficial dialogue with Al Qaida long before his election as the 44th U.S. president, according to a report in the upcoming weekly edition of Geostrategy-Direct.com.Al Qaida has offered what has been described as a truce in exchange for a U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan, according to the report.
Obama has deemed the U.S. reconciliation with the Muslim world, including Iran, as his main foreign policy goal, sources quoted in the report said. The president has been aided by several Persian Gulf Arab Muslims with ties to Al Qaida’s leadership in Pakistan, they said.
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yochanan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:15pm |
BUCK FLAGO’S goose is cooked in fact it is OVER DONE
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:15pm |
re: #9 Hengineer
Speaking of Heinlein, I really enjoyed his books.
The Red Planet was a favorite
Starship Troopers, followed by Number of the Beast.
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Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:40pm |
re: #37 Oh no…Sand People!
CAIR cry’s to FBI about LGF.
FBI turns agents to monitor LGF.
Agents learn about CAIR via LGF.
FBI to CAIR:‘GAZE’.put your hands behind your backs and spread your legs apart. You have the right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you in a court of law…….
Agents sign up on registration day at LGF.I can ‘hope’.
I’m hopin’ too
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:54pm |
re: #92 Cato the Elder
Charles, have you seen this yet?
Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.
Administration shocked!
An independent judiciary! Why the nerve of them!
//
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:07:20pm |
re: #85 unreconstructed rebel
Near as I can tell, the rest of the world is laughing behind their hand.
Yeah, and I find that embarrassing ….. but then, I didn’t vote for the turkey.
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:07:43pm |
re: #92 Cato the Elder
“We just learned of the ruling … and we are consulting with the Pentagon and the Department of Justice to explore our options in the case,” said White Press secretary Robert Gibbs
I wonder how long Gibbs is going to last?
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Kenneth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:07:54pm |
re: #92 Cato the Elder
The Pentagon may now be forced to withdraw the charges against Abd al Rahim al-Nashiri, a Saudi citizen of Yemeni descent.
al-Nashiri is one of the only three terrorists that the CIA used waterboarding on. I expect sooner or later Obama will apologize to him.
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Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:08:04pm |
re: #92 Cato the Elder
Charles, have you seen this yet?
The judge, Army Col. James Pohl, said his decision was difficult but necessary to protect “the public interest in a speedy trial.” The ruling came in the case against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The bombing of the Navy destroyer in 2000 in the harbor of Aden, Yemen, killed 17 U.S.
speedy?
The Cole was bombed 9 years ago!
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:08:42pm |
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:09:05pm |
re: #106 Shug
The judge, Army Col. James Pohl, said his decision was difficult but necessary to protect “the public interest in a speedy trial.” The ruling came in the case against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The bombing of the Navy destroyer in 2000 in the harbor of Aden, Yemen, killed 17 U.S.
speedy?
The Cole was bombed 9 years ago!
Yeah, but when was the shmuck apprehended?
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BatGuano Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:09:15pm |
re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I’ve read Starship Troopers many times. I especially liked his ideas on citizenship.
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:09:28pm |
re: #105 Nevergiveup
I never saw it. Do you believe it?
Grain of salt. But it fits the pattern, along with his first call to Abu Mazin, the overtures to Iran etc…
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:09:51pm |
re: #92 Cato the Elder
Charles, have you seen this yet?
Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.
Administration shocked!
Interesting typo there:
“We just learned of the ruling … and we are consulting with the Pentagon and the Department of Justice to explore our options in the case,” said White Press secretary Robert Gibbs
Is there also a Black Press secretary?
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:02pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:03pm |
re: #103 unreconstructed rebel
I wonder how long Gibbs is going to last?
If it wasn’t for the fact that he is running flak for a Dem and media appointed president he would have been WH press corps lunch his first 5 seconds on the job.
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Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:11pm |
re: #109 Nevergiveup
Yeah, but when was the shmuck apprehended?
aah. good point.
probably long enough ago though.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:57pm |
re: #107 FurryOldGuyJeans
“And now, the Larch.”
The Larch?
Are we larching to the deciduous or the evergreen?
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:11:02pm |
re: #9 Hengineer
Speaking of Heinlein, I really enjoyed his books.
The Red Planet was a favorite
re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Starship Troopers, followed by Number of the Beast.
“Stranger In A Strange Land.” The book is, well, strange, but grippingly written and thought-provoking.
Or at least it seemed that way to a 13-year-old…
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filetandrelease Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:11:05pm |
re: #96 jcm
Al Qaida has offered what has been described as a truce in exchange for a U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan, according to the report.
Ask Israel how in the past a “truce” has worked for them.
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Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:11:23pm |
re: #112 wrenchwench
Is there also a Black Press secretary?
I could no more abandon Rev Wright, than I could my very own white press secretary
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:15pm |
re: #110 BatGuano
I’ve read Starship Troopers many times. I especially liked his ideas on citizenship.
Yup, some very good ideas there.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:19pm |
re: #92 Cato the Elder
If he hadn’t seen it yet he been asleep at the helm. That was a good part of the last thread off-topic bantam roostering. ;)
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Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:26pm |
re: #96 jcm
Has anyone linked this story yet?
Report: Barack Obama’s Al Qaida initiative began months before his election
Chamberlain had peace in our time
Obama wants ROP in our time
both ended very very badly
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:39pm |
re: #112 wrenchwench
Is there also a Black Press secretary?
Must be.
Would be racist if there weren’t …
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:59pm |
re: #118 Cato the Elder
“Stranger In A Strange Land.” The book is, well, strange, but grippingly written and thought-provoking.
Or at least it seemed that way to a 13-year-old…
No, that’s a good book, IMO.
“Glory Road” for cheap Heinlein thrills.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:13:27pm |
re: #117 eschew_obfuscation
The Larch?
Are we larching to the deciduous or the evergreen?
You must have never seen Monty Python’s Flying Circus, I see. That was a running joke akin to SNL’s “Franco is still dead”.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:13:46pm |
re: #118 Cato the Elder
“Stranger In A Strange Land.” The book is, well, strange, but grippingly written and thought-provoking.
Or at least it seemed that way to a 13-year-old…
Quite a difference between reading Heinlein in ones teens as opposed to in ones 30s.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:14:16pm |
re: #125 OldLineTexan
No, that’s a good book, IMO.
“Glory Road” for cheap Heinlein thrills.
Tunnels in the Sky.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:14:41pm |
re: #126 FurryOldGuyJeans
You must have never seen Monty Python’s Flying Circus, I see. That was a running joke akin to SNL’s “Franco is still dead”.
Been a long time….. about as close as I get today is ‘shrubbery’.
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:03pm |
re: #81 nyc redneck
o raised the thermostat in the white house. he didn’t do the ‘green’ thing and put on a sweater, because he, like algore, is special.
only we need to be chilly in our homes so the rest of the world will be ok w/ us.
Get’s better. Axlerod actually said that O is from Hawaii & needs heat.
And you thoght that he was a Senator from Illinois.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:17pm |
re: #116 Iron Fist
He’ll be too busy trying to ramrod new gun control laws to be interested in prosecuting a few Republicans. He’d much rather go for the mass arrests thing. Kind of like Beria, although Obama himself doesn’t remind me of Stalin. He more of a Mussolini kind of guy.
Interesting comparison.
Mussolini - hm. He was no slouch when it came to arrests and such, iirc.
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filetandrelease Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:30pm |
re: #118 Cato the Elder
“Stranger In A Strange Land.” The book is, well, strange, but grippingly written and thought-provoking.
Or at least it seemed that way to a 13-year-old…
Was is “Time enough for Love” that introduced Lazarus Long (sp)? One of my all time favorite characters.
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:33pm |
re: #127 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Quite a difference between reading Heinlein in ones teens as opposed to in ones 30s.
Yup. While I might still enjoy Starship Trooper, his works are a bit … sophomoric.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:57pm |
re: #92 Cato the Elder
Charles, have you seen this yet?
Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.
Administration shocked!
heh-heh.
Apparently they truly thought the O would be able to “rule” absolutely.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:16:05pm |
re: #100 jcm
An independent judiciary! Why the nerve of them!
//
Some people can’t wrap their minds around that concept. They insist that being a military judge means one is required to do whatever the president and the chain of command says.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:16:27pm |
re: #95 thefallingman
When I was stationed in South Korea I had a German tourist complain to me that we Americans never care what the rest of the world thinks about us. I asked him if Germans care what Americans think about them. He told me, “No. Why should they?”. I tried to get him to see that if Germans don’t consider our opinions we were under no obligation to consider theirs. The conversation deteriorated from there.
When I was living in Germany, I had a heated conversation with an older WWII type German and he was complaining about how stupid Americans seemed to be, until I reminded him how badly we kicked their genius fuhrer and generals ass’s all over the battlefield whereever we met them.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:16:30pm |
re: #128 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Tunnels in the Sky.
I have never read it. It’s listed in Wiki as one of the “Heinlein Juveniles”, so it should be a good fit for me.
Meanwhile, any astute fan of Science Fiction KNOWS that the entire Universe is controlled by the benevolent robot Daneel Olivaw, who lives on the moon.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:15pm |
re: #131 opnion
Get’s better. Axlerod actually said that O is from Hawaii & needs heat.
And you thoght that he was a Senator from Illinois.
No wonder Michelle had no money for the children - those heating bills must have been astronomical!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:15pm |
re: #130 eschew_obfuscation
Been a long time….. about as close as I get today is ‘shrubbery’.
You need to go wallow in the telly show….the movies give a less than perfect view of their humor.
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:26pm |
re: #131 opnion
Even more delicious than that; the day before he was quoted as saying that DC schools had to show more toughness after closing because of a couple inches of snow and ice - saying that Chicago showed more toughness than that…
Yeah, real tough when you’re dialing up the heat.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:37pm |
re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans
Some people can’t wrap their minds around that concept. They insist that being a military judge means one is required to do whatever the president and the chain of command says.
Navy Lt. Cmdr. Stephen Reyes, the Pentagon-appointed attorney for Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, said the decision gives the Obama administration few options.
“The next step, if the government wants to halt the proceedings, is to withdraw the charges,” Reyes said. “Now it’s in the government’s hands,” he said. “I have no idea what they’re going to do.
Wonder if they will go as far as to withdraw the charges?
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:45pm |
re: #134 unreconstructed rebel
Yup. While I might still enjoy Starship Trooper, his works are a bit … sophomoric.
There was a distinct difference in his works. Some he wrote to cater to a younger audience, others he wrote to be more controversial.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:24pm |
re: #135 reine.de.tout
heh-heh.
Apparently they truly thought the O would be able to “rule” absolutely.
We have some posters that apparently think military judges are required to do whatever the president and the chain of command say.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:26pm |
OMG - another one has found out about our tunnel system under the southwest and our complex under Denver Airport.
Good thing - they only know about the first 7 levels and I work on level 8.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:27pm |
re: #81 nyc redneck
o raised the thermostat in the white house. he didn’t do the ‘green’ thing and put on a sweater, because he, like algore, is special.
only we need to be chilly in our homes so the rest of the world will be ok w/ us.
Where did you see that?
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:37pm |
re: #140 FurryOldGuyJeans
You need to go wallow in the telly show….the movies give a less than perfect view of their humor.
Oooooh….wallowing! I can do wallowing. Maybe this weekend while the wife is gone ;~P
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:40pm |
re: #92 Cato the Elder
Charles, have you seen this yet?
Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.
Administration shocked!
re: #106 Shug
The judge, Army Col. James Pohl, said his decision was difficult but necessary to protect “the public interest in a speedy trial.” The ruling came in the case against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The bombing of the Navy destroyer in 2000 in the harbor of Aden, Yemen, killed 17 U.S.
speedy?
The Cole was bombed 9 years ago!
Very good point. One of the reasons the outcry over Gitmo gained so much traction is that people like al-Nashiri and KSM have been held for years without trials and sentencing. Some of them have confessed, yet nothing is done.
Try the cases, dammit, don’t shut down the prison and make it some other jurisdiction’s problem!
Note that these delays until now have of course not been Obama’s fault, but a matter of obscure policy by the Bush administration. I never could figure out why it was being done like that.
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Sunlight Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:42pm |
I remember as a teenager in Europe my parents telling me that Turkey was in NATO and that their military always took over if their society/government drifted back into radical practices. Has the current government managed to hogtie the military?
Endrogen at Davos:
[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]
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Miss Molly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:19:18pm |
I thought Barry could just talk to all these terrorists and tell them to go home and behave themselves and this whole Gito mess would be taken care of. Whats Barry going to do now that a court has gotten in his way? “Other options” — whats that all about?
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:19:21pm |
re: #144 FurryOldGuyJeans
We have some posters that apparently think military judges are required to do whatever the president and the chain of command say.
We have 3 branches of government for a reason.
And thank goodness for it.
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:19:33pm |
re: #96 jcm
Has anyone linked this story yet?
Report: Barack Obama’s Al Qaida initiative began months before his election
i’m thinking his ‘preoccupation’ w/ the moslem world began when he was young, shortly after he learned that his moslem father dumped him when he was a baby.
he has personal baggage.
and we have to work thru it w/ him.
gak
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:20:14pm |
re: #128 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Tunnels in the Sky.
Which was “Lord of the Flies” in space, but I still liked it.
My 3rd grade (or was it 5th) reading book had “The Green Hills of Earth” in it. (Back then, they expected students to actually learn).
I read and re-read the short story, about the blind singer Rhysling and how he saved a spacecraft.
“I pray for one last landing
On the globe that gave me birth
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
And the cool, green hills of Earth.”
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:20:33pm |
re: #142 reine.de.tout
Wonder if they will go as far as to withdraw the charges?
This Gitmo thing has the potential of getting real messy and public for the O. I wouldn’t put it in the “not gonna happen” basket when I reflect on the man’s previous positions and words spoken on the campaign.
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:20:42pm |
re: #139 yma o hyd
No wonder Michelle had no money for the children - those heating bills must have been astronomical!
Remeber he lectured us that we can’t coniinue eating as much as we want & keeping our thermostats at 72?
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:20:47pm |
re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans
Some people can’t wrap their minds around that concept. They insist that being a military judge means one is required to do whatever the president and the chain of command says.
Hell “Separation of Powers” for the civilian government isn’t understood, and civilians have little idea of what the whole military culture is anyway.
When Gitmo opeoned I looked some data on Military trials. They actually have a higher acquittal rate than civilian courts. My thought was a military jury or panel will be made of professionals who have more practice making dispassionate fact based decisions.
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filetandrelease Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:21:15pm |
re: #138 OldLineTexan
Wasn’t he created by Isac Asmimov in I-Robot? He even made the big screen.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:21:30pm |
re: #145 karmic_inquisitor
OMG - another one has found out about our tunnel system under the southwest and our complex under Denver Airport.
Good thing - they only know about the first 7 levels and I work on level 8.
Oh-my-gawd.
Cripes.
Blimey.
Shaking head in disbelief …
(Gonna go down to level 11 now, one never knows …)
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:03pm |
re: #74 lawhawk
GOP has deal with AG nominee Holder not to prosecute former Bush Administration officials in exchange for their support? Dirty deeds indeed.
And what’s to keep Holder from saying “I lied” or “You misunderstood” at some point down the road.
Am I too cynical?……..
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:09pm |
re: #148 Cato the Elder
I never could figure out why it was being done like that.
There was a strong desire to hold them for the duration of the conflict as you would POWs, but not recognize them as POWs. For many there was never any intention of giving them trials.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:49pm |
re: #151 reine.de.tout
We have 3 branches of government for a reason.
And thank goodness for it.
Some people think that because military judges are part of the military, which is part of the Executive branch, that they MUST do whatever the president and the chain of command say. I wonder if they really want to be a Banana Republic with thinking like that.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:55pm |
re: #154 FurryOldGuyJeans
This Gitmo thing has the potential of getting real messy and public for the O. I wouldn’t put it in the “not gonna happen” basket when I reflect on the man’s previous positions and words spoken on the campaign.
It would be terrible for the country, imo, for this to get messy, so I hope it doesn’t.
However, if it does, I admit I’ll be sitting here smirking.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:58pm |
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
— Robert A. Heinlein, The Cat Who Walks Through Walls
Putch zich in hinten und shraiy bravo
(Slap yourself in the ass and shout “bravo”)
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Sunlight Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:11pm |
I remember as a teenager in Europe my parents telling me that Turkey was in NATO and that their military always took over if their society/government drifted back into radical practices. Has the current government managed to hogtie the military?
Endrogen at Davos:
[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:16pm |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:31pm |
re: #131 opnion
Get’s better. Axlerod actually said that O is from Hawaii & needs heat.
And you thoght that he was a Senator from Illinois.
I thought he’s been living in Illinois for several years now.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:34pm |
re: #157 filetandrelease
Wasn’t he created by Isac Asmimov in I-Robot? He even made the big screen.
Unfortunately the movie had nothing to do with the novella, and destroyed the character of Elijah Bailey while eliminating R. Daneel Olivaw completely. As much as I enjoyed Will Smith playing himself in a fair action flick, I was utterly disappointed. The Asimov “Robot” stories are far better, and there was room and material for sequels.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:47pm |
re: #118 Cato the Elder
“Stranger In A Strange Land.” The book is, well, strange, but grippingly written and thought-provoking.
Or at least it seemed that way to a 13-year-old…
re: #133 filetandrelease
Was is “Time enough for Love” that introduced Lazarus Long (sp)? One of my all time favorite characters.
Is that the one where the lead character goes into suspended animation for ten years, having visited the future, come back, bought a controlling interest in a penny stock he knows will be worth zillions in a decade, and made a pact with his eight-year-old “girlfriend” that she’ll wait for him to wake up when she’s eighteen?
Loved it!
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Dainn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:48pm |
I think I’ve read everything Heinlein has written, though most of his later stuff is soft-porn crap :)
My favorite: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. I also really enjoy his young adult novels (including Starship Troopers, Have Spacesuit will Travel).
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:00pm |
re: #146 reine.de.tout
Where did you see that?
re: #94 lawhawk
[Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com…]
The NYT buried that part, and didn’t criticize the move, despite Obama railing on about how we needed to conserve energy and set our thermostats lower…
i heard it on hannity but here is lawhawks link.
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UberInfidel67 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:06pm |
re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans And those would be the same people who would give a soldier grief for doing what his CO told him to do. If it was something the lefties didn’t “approve” of, they would moan “why didn’t he just do the opposite!?” Blah blah blah It’s OK to question authority, just not The One’s authority.
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thefallingman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:09pm |
re: #158 Iron Fist
What he dreams of can only be speculated about right now, but I suspect that most of us here won’t like them.
Suspect? I know we won’t.
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:31pm |
.re: #162 FurryOldGuyJeans
I wonder if they really want to be a Banana Republic with thinking like that.
After the last election, I wonder too
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:45pm |
re: #160 LGoPs
And what’s to keep Holder from saying “I lied” or “You misunderstood” at some point down the road.
Am I too cynical?……..
And what makes you think the GOP politicians can’t do the same thing?
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:47pm |
re: #159 yma o hyd
Oh-my-gawd.
Cripes.
Blimey.
Shaking head in disbelief …(Gonna go down to level 11 now, one never knows …)
And they have even learned about the tunnel system. And here I was planning to use the Ft. Irwin to Mt. Shasta tunnel on our next family trip.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:02pm |
re: #155 opnion
Remeber he lectured us that we can’t coniinue eating as much as we want & keeping our thermostats at 72?
Oh yes!
So watch out for the food police - he’s only got to see how Gord is doing things here in the UK, and he’ll be off …
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:16pm |
re: #156 jcm
Hell “Separation of Powers” for the civilian government isn’t understood, and civilians have little idea of what the whole military culture is anyway.
When Gitmo opeoned I looked some data on Military trials. They actually have a higher acquittal rate than civilian courts. My thought was a military jury or panel will be made of professionals who have more practice making dispassionate fact based decisions.
Would you quit bring that old outdated document up? The Constitution is nothing but a piece of paper some dead white guys wrote on.
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:19pm |
re: #145 karmic_inquisitor
OMG - another one has found out about our tunnel system under the southwest and our complex under Denver Airport.
Good thing - they only know about the first 7 levels and I work on level 8.
Evidence indicates that the Denver International Airport sits on top of a huge underground facility, with trains that connect to shelters in the mountains and possibly as far away as New Mexico, he stated.
We have a serious breach of security! Initiate security protocal Epsilon 435 Delta 4, lock down all levels and commence level 4 sweep.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:41pm |
re: #161 karmic_inquisitor
There was a strong desire to hold them for the duration of the conflict as you would POWs, but not recognize them as POWs. For many there was never any intention of giving them trials.
Well, that’s where I disagreed with the Bush administration. Where there was evidence, there should have been trials.
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Dainn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:45pm |
re: #138 OldLineTexan
Tunnel in the Sky was excellent. Survival school where kids are shipped to a planet and have to survive. If they do, they pass!
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:49pm |
re: #168 OldLineTexan
Unfortunately the movie had nothing to do with the novella, and destroyed the character of Elijah Bailey while eliminating R. Daneel Olivaw completely. As much as I enjoyed Will Smith playing himself in a fair action flick, I was utterly disappointed. The Asimov “Robot” stories are far better, and there was room and material for sequels.
The movie I Robot was at least as faithful to the book as Lawnmower Man was to the short story.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:26:19pm |
re: #183 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The movie I Robot was at least as faithful to the book as Lawnmower Man was to the short story.
I skipped Lawnmower Man completely, so I would not know.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:26:36pm |
re: #163 reine.de.tout
It would be terrible for the country, imo, for this to get messy, so I hope it doesn’t.
However, if it does, I admit I’ll be sitting here smirking.
It doesn’t, as I see it, necessarily follow that it getting messy would be bad for the country. If it did it would blunt the thrust of O’s agenda, and that is something I see as good.
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:03pm |
re: #167 reine.de.tout
I thought he’s been living in Illinois for several years now.
He has spent most of his life in the Midwest & Northeast.
The Hawaii thing is silly.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:19pm |
re: #177 yma o hyd
Oh yes!
So watch out for the food police - he’s only got to see how Gord is doing things here in the UK, and he’ll be off …
He won’t have to go that far. Didn’t Bloomberg want to tax fast food?
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:20pm |
re: #162 FurryOldGuyJeans
Some people think that because military judges are part of the military, which is part of the Executive branch, that they MUST do whatever the president and the chain of command say. I wonder if they really want to be a Banana Republic with thinking like that.
People do not understand how gummint works.
I worked for a state agency in the Executive Branch that was, per the La. constitution, independent of “interference” from the gov or the legislature.
And so we could try to be cooperative; but bottom line, we had no legal requirement to do anything they asked of us to do.
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:27pm |
With this President, perhaps the US is part of a new version of “The Story of ‘O’”—this time with the country being in bondage to foreign powers. Who does not see our sovereignty slipping away?
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:28pm |
re: #170 Dainn
I think I’ve read everything Heinlein has written, though most of his later stuff is soft-porn crap :)
My favorite: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. I also really enjoy his young adult novels (including Starship Troopers, Have Spacesuit will Travel).
Moon was a good read. Been a while.
I’ve mostly been reading Dan Abnett for Sci-Fi the last few years.
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:47pm |
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Miss Molly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:53pm |
The first time I saw Barry in one of the Dems debates his likness to Mussolini came to mind especially in his body language. He is so arrogant and has had a “pass” on everything all his life. I think he has plans for “payback” for all the “insults” he believes he has suffered in his life. This guy has a very hidden agenda and will pay no attention to any rules that get in his way. Turn off the sound when he talks and watch his body language — every time I am struck how he resembles Mussolini.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:12pm |
re: #183 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The movie I Robot was at least as faithful to the book as Lawnmower Man was to the short story.
I haven’t read the book, but I was surprisingly pleased with I Robot as a movie.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:14pm |
re: #184 OldLineTexan
I skipped Lawnmower Man completely, so I would not know.
You missed nothing. The movie and the story shared nothing but a title.
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:33pm |
re: #182 Iron Fist
That may be the only thing that saves us. If that saves us. I expected Obama to be the terrorist’s friend, but I didn’t anticipate him being quite this, well, open about it.
it is stunning what he is doing in broad day light.
makes you wonder what is going on under the cover of darkness.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:38pm |
re: #158 Iron Fist
It’s the arrogance, I think, that makes the men similar. Mussolini was a profoundly arrogant man who dreamed of restoring the Dictatorship of the Roman Empire, with himself as the Emporer. Obama is a profoundly arrogant man as well. What he dreams of can only be speculated about right now, but I suspect that most of us here won’t like them.
You’re spot on about the arrogance!
Its strange, letting images of those trhee 20th C dictators pass my mind, how Stalin and Hitler were a lot of horrible things, but arrogant like Mussolini, they weren’t.
If its a consolation - Mussolini wasn’t that effective at what he did, compared with the other two - lots of hot air, and facts on the ground have the disturbing habit of interfering with hot air …
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:44pm |
re: #180 Cato the Elder
Well, that’s where I disagreed with the Bush administration. Where there was evidence, there should have been trials.
I don’t think they thought out the policy well up front. They tried to create a new legal status somewhere between POW, partisan and war criminal and simply baited allies with wobbly knees to turn on us.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:59pm |
re: #183 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
The movie I Robot was at least as faithful to the book as Lawnmower Man was to the short story.
Asimov and Heinlein are hard authors for Hollywood to “get right”. They wrote about personal responsibility and reliance along with the geeky future science.
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:29:04pm |
re: #187 eschew_obfuscation
fast food? I know he wants to tax soft drinks.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:29:13pm |
re: #179 jcm
Evidence indicates that the Denver International Airport sits on top of a huge underground facility, with trains that connect to shelters in the mountains and possibly as far away as New Mexico, he stated.
We have a serious breach of security! Initiate security protocal Epsilon 435 Delta 4, lock down all levels and commence level 4 sweep.
This is why we have undercover FBI lizards among us.
//
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:29:15pm |
re: #180 Cato the Elder
Well, that’s where I disagreed with the Bush administration. Where there was evidence, there should have been trials.
We never tried any POWs in WWI or II—they were interned for the duration and repatriated after the war. The same is true for the terror “suspects” in Gitmo and other places.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:29:16pm |
re: #184 OldLineTexan
I skipped Lawnmower Man completely, so I would not know.
I still can’t forgive Stephen King for “Maximum Overdrive”.
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:15pm |
re: #152 nyc redneck
So, in other words, he is go to a therapist to work through his problems instead of working them out during his current job assignment? LOL. I hate shrinks.
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chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:20pm |
C-SPAN has live coverage of Gov. Blago’s trial in the IL. Senate. I have only had in on about 10 minutes and so far I have heard very little statements of support for the Gov. He’s done. Rumor is, his personal stuff is already boxed up at the Mansion.
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:21pm |
re: #192 Miss Molly
The first time I saw Barry in one of the Dems debates his likness to Mussolini came to mind especially in his body language. He is so arrogant and has had a “pass” on everything all his life. I think he has plans for “payback” for all the “insults” he believes he has suffered in his life. This guy has a very hidden agenda and will pay no attention to any rules that get in his way. Turn off the sound when he talks and watch his body language — every time I am struck how he resembles Mussolini.
Sadly, there was not enough living memory left to remember that. Thirty years ago, he would have gotten no traction.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:31pm |
re: #185 FurryOldGuyJeans
It doesn’t, as I see it, necessarily follow that it getting messy would be bad for the country. If it did it would blunt the thrust of O’s agenda, and that is something I see as good.
I’d love to see the zero’s administration get messy.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:36pm |
re: #185 FurryOldGuyJeans
It doesn’t, as I see it, necessarily follow that it getting messy would be bad for the country. If it did it would blunt the thrust of O’s agenda, and that is something I see as good.
Maybe it wouldn’t be a bad thing.
It would be a distraction, I guess is what I was thinking, from other things that are important.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:36pm |
re: #176 karmic_inquisitor
And they have even learned about the tunnel system. And here I was planning to use the Ft. Irwin to Mt. Shasta tunnel on our next family trip.
Gotta get the secret Lizard defense system up and running, pronto!
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:45pm |
re: #192 Miss Molly
The first time I saw Barry in one of the Dems debates his likness to Mussolini came to mind especially in his body language. He is so arrogant and has had a “pass” on everything all his life. I think he has plans for “payback” for all the “insults” he believes he has suffered in his life. This guy has a very hidden agenda and will pay no attention to any rules that get in his way. Turn off the sound when he talks and watch his body language — every time I am struck how he resembles Mussolini.
Really well said. I have believed for some time that the Obamas plan to punish this nation, especially the Middle Class.
They both have had things handed to them, yet they are bitter & resentful
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:31:11pm |
re: #203 MrSilverDragon
I still can’t forgive Stephen King for “Maximum Overdrive”.
It did produce an AC/DC album, so it’s not all bad.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:31:14pm |
re: #202 calcajun
We never tried any POWs in WWI or II—they were interned for the duration and repatriated after the war. The same is true for the terror “suspects” in Gitmo and other places.
The inmates in Gitmo aren’t truly POWs; they were never in uniform,
I believe we tried the spies and saboteurs caught. That is a better example.
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:31:26pm |
re: #203 MrSilverDragon
I still can’t forgive Stephen King for “Maximum Overdrive”.
Oh com’on. It was so bad it was good. The Coke machine that took out a little league team. At least it was not as bad as “The Happening”. eww.
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:31:30pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:31:48pm |
re: #192 Miss Molly
The first time I saw Barry in one of the Dems debates his likness to Mussolini came to mind especially in his body language. He is so arrogant and has had a “pass” on everything all his life. I think he has plans for “payback” for all the “insults” he believes he has suffered in his life. This guy has a very hidden agenda and will pay no attention to any rules that get in his way. Turn off the sound when he talks and watch his body language — every time I am struck how he resembles Mussolini.
He was very upfront and talkative about what his agenda is; the FMSM didn’t want to listen and so many Americans had not a clue.
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Dainn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:32:23pm |
re: #190 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I’ve mostly been reading Dan Abnett for Sci-Fi the last few years.
Ah. The D in DnA. Haven’t read Dread in years, but my son likes the Warhammer stuff.
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joncelli Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:32:24pm |
re: #87 Nevergiveup
Yet another reason to raze the CIA and start over from the word go.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:05pm |
They know about the detainment camp!
5. Denver International Airport (also a detainment camp)
Function: Military research, construction, detainment camp facilities
Levels: 7 reported
Tunnels to: Denver proper, Colorado and Rocky Mountain “safehousing”, Colorado Springs, Colorado (Cheyenne Mtn.), Riverton, Wyoming Notes: Constructed in 1995, the government and politicians were hell bent on building this airport in spite of it ending up vastly overbudget. Charges of corruption, constant construction company changes, and mass firings of teams once they had built a section of their work was reported so that no “one” group had any idea what the blueprint of the airport was. Not only did locals not want this airport built nor was it needed, but everything was done to make sure it was, period. Masonic symbols and bizarre artwork of dead babies, burning cities and women in coffins comprise an extensive mural as well as a time capsule - none of which is featured in the airport’s web site section detailing the unique artwork throughout the building. DIA is reported to serve as a cover for the vast underground facilities that were built there. There are reports of electronic/magnetic vibrations which make some people sick and cause headaches in others. There are acres of fenced-in areas which have barbed wire pointing into the area as if to keep things in, and small concrete stacks that resemble mini-cooling towers rise out of the acres of nowhere to apparently vent underground levels.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:06pm |
re: #145 karmic_inquisitor
OMG - another one has found out about our tunnel system under the southwest and our complex under Denver Airport.
Good thing - they only know about the first 7 levels and I work on level 8.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:15pm |
re: #208 reine.de.tout
Maybe it wouldn’t be a bad thing.
It would be a distraction, I guess is what I was thinking, from other things that are important.
I don’t see O doing anything that a majority of Americans would consider important, really. Only the Leftoids would be pleased with what the man has said is his agenda.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:19pm |
re: #199 lawhawk
fast food? I know he wants to tax soft drinks.
O.K…maybe I’m conflating things…. Bloomberg likes fast food, New Jersey may want to tax it.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:21pm |
re: #197 karmic_inquisitor
I don’t think they thought out the policy well up front. They tried to create a new legal status somewhere between POW, partisan and war criminal and simply baited allies with wobbly knees to turn on us.
That surely seems to be the way it worked out. If you have confessed perpetrators, they ought to be tried. I realize the status was different for many of them. But KSM confessed.
And it is a sad fact that a number of these guys were scooped up when their neighbors/enemies/opportunists turned them in to get the bounty. Not everybody who was (and maybe still is) there should have been detained. We should have been able to figure that out sooner.
In my opinion.
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:29pm |
re: #212 Kosh’s Shadow
The inmates in Gitmo aren’t truly POWs; they were never in uniform,
I believe we tried the spies and saboteurs caught. That is a better example.
I might agree, but those were summary trials —followed by summary executions. (Skorzeny’s troops caught in the Ardennes in 44-45). If you go down that line, you start getting into “Breaker Morant” territory.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:35pm |
re: #189 calcajun
With this President, perhaps the US is part of a new version of “The Story of ‘O’”—this time with the country being in bondage to foreign powers. Who does not see our sovereignty slipping away?
Have you had your beating today? (funniest line in the movie)
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:58pm |
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Dainn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:59pm |
re: #203 MrSilverDragon
I still can’t forgive Stephen King for “Maximum Overdrive”.
King can’t forgive King for that movie. He admits it is his worst failure :)
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Moonbat Serenade Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:34:16pm |
re: #32 Honorary Yooper
There’s been a national overdose on hopium.
Wonder how bad the hangover’s gonna be.
Are hopium pipes made from Unicorn horns ?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:34:33pm |
re: #212 Kosh’s Shadow
The inmates in Gitmo aren’t truly POWs; they were never in uniform,
I believe we tried the spies and saboteurs caught. That is a better example.
Yet we didn’t do what is perfectly legal by the Geneva Conventions to un-uniformed combatants.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:34:43pm |
re: #210 opnion
Thats the typical mindset of the LLL.
They nearly always come from well-to-do, middle class families who have given them a better than average education.
So they basically dirty their own nest - and in the process se to it than nobody else will get the opportunities they themselves had.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:35:05pm |
re: #216 Dainn
Ah. The D in DnA. Haven’t read Dread in years, but my son likes the Warhammer stuff.
Gaunt’s Ghost, the Eisenhorn Trilogy, and the Horus Heresy books.
Though I do admit the Ciaphis Cain series is very amusing. Lets take the most grim dark violent sci-fi setting in existence today and set up a comedy in it. Its been great.
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:35:57pm |
re: #224 Soona’
Have you had your beating today? (funniest line in the movie)
The doctor says I have to limit it to one a week. Ooops—sharing too much again.\\
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Miss Molly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:36:14pm |
Unreconstructed Rebel — we have to re-educate as many people as we can to the history of Mussolini and others like him. Hopefully there will be a constant drum beat of reminders of who Mussolini was and what he did. That old lesson — learn from the past or ….
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:36:19pm |
re: #218 karmic_inquisitor
They know about the detainment camp!
Omigawd - they found out about the troll enclosures!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:36:26pm |
Aw, yeah! Iowahawk’s done it again.
Just because a culture has occasional problems with dysentery doesn’t mean it can’t produce sage nuggets of universal wisdom, suitable for framing. It is also wrong because it ignores the incredible merchandising opportunities. Just look at Hillary Clinton and Al Gore — what better way to show off your expansive intelligence and down-with-the-Other multicultural chops than quoting the occasional Third World tribal advice?
“The happy man has two chickens; the wise man shares one with the man who has none. The prudent man reports the happy man to the authorities, so they can wise him up.”
Cuban“The tawny kitten writhes before the white snake.”
Mulleti
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:36:32pm |
re: #127 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Quite a difference between reading Heinlein in ones teens as opposed to in ones 30s.
Or one’s fifties, for that matter. But most of his stuff stands the test of time, as science fiction.
As I get older, I’m more into history than futurology. My brother gave me the complete six-volume “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” for Christmas. A princely gift.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:22pm |
They found out about Dulce! Not Dulce! The Area 51 headfake has been compromised!
5: Dulce Base, New Mexico
While some are spending their time scrutinizing Area 51 and thinking that’s so important, Dulce is said to be the crown jewel that we’re all being distracted from; The Big TamaleFunction: Alien interface, Research of mind related functions, genetic experiments, mind control training and reprograming
Levels: 7 Known -
Level 1 - garage for street maintenance
Level 2 - garage for trains, shuttles, tunnel-boring machines and disc maintenance
Level 3 - everyone is weighed, in the nude, then given a jump suit uniform. The weight of the person is put on a computer I.D. card each day. Change in over three pounds requires a physical exam and X-ray.
Level 4 - Human research in ‘paranormal’ areas - mental telepathy, mind control, hypnosis, remote viewing, astral traveling - etc. The technology is apparently here to allow them to know how to manipulate the ‘Bioplasmic Body’ Development of a laser weapon that can remotely cause burns and discomfort on it’s target. They can lower your heartbeat with Deep Sleep ‘Delta Waves,’ induce a static shock, then reprogram, Via a Brain- Computer link.
Level 5 - Alien housing . “…The room is circular for the (electro- magnetic) generator is nearly 200 feet diameter and covers the fifth and sixth levels (extreme west south wing). There (are) five entrances (plus an escape trap door on the sixth floor) on each floor. Each portal has double door. The security is severe. Armed guards patrol constantly, and in addition to weight sensitive areas there (are) hand print and eye print stations. Here, is the device that powers the transfer of atoms.
Level 6 - Level 6 is privately called ‘Nightmare Hall’. It holds the genetic labs. Experiments done on fish, seals, birds, and mice that are vastly altered from their original, forms. There are multi- armed and multi-legged humans and several cages (and vats) of humanoid bat-like creatures up to 7- feet tall. Aliens have taught the humans a lot about genetics, things both useful and dangerous. Level 7 - Humans in cages here, usually drugged or dazed, sometimes crying out for help.
Level 7 is the worst. “Row after row of 1,000’s of humans & human-mixture remains in cold storage. Here too are embryos of humanoids in various stages of development. Also, many human children’s’ remains in storage vats. Who are (were) these people?”
Below Level 7 - Unknown other levels unexplored by humans. Aliens here. Exits into a vast underground cavern series, unexplored by humans, but suspected to be a huge alien culture area.Tunnels to: Colorado Springs, Colorado Creed, Colorado Datil, N.M. Los Alamos. Page, Arizona Sandia Base Taos, NM
Notes: The Dulce installation (upper levels) was originally constructed by the RAND corp. There are reported to be over 3000 cameras at various high-security locations. Deep sections of the Complex may connect into a natural and extensive underground cave system, which is common in most of these locations
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:37pm |
re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans
Some people can’t wrap their minds around that concept. They insist that being a military judge means one is required to do whatever the president and the chain of command says.
/that best not be directed at me, because I never said anything of the kind
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lawhawk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:44pm |
re: #221 eschew_obfuscation
O.K…maybe I’m conflating things…. Bloomberg likes fast food, New Jersey may want to tax it.
It’s hard to keep track of all the nanny staters… there are so many of them… and they’re salivating over the porkfest to come.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:47pm |
re: #188 reine.de.tout
People do not understand how gummint works.
I worked for a state agency in the Executive Branch that was, per the La. constitution, independent of “interference” from the gov or the legislature.
And so we could try to be cooperative; but bottom line, we had no legal requirement to do anything they asked of us to do.
I’m all for cooperation. O tried using legal means to achieve what he wanted and got brought up short by a military judge who also did what was legal and refused the government’s request.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:38:22pm |
re: #236 Cato the Elder
Or one’s fifties, for that matter. But most of his stuff stands the test of time, as science fiction.
As I get older, I’m more into history than futurology. My brother gave me the complete six-volume “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” for Christmas. A princely gift.
Picked up Sherman’s Memoirs last week, hoping to get a chance to read it soon.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:38:35pm |
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:38:59pm |
re: #232 Miss Molly
Unreconstructed Rebel — we have to re-educate as many people as we can to the history of Mussolini and others like him. Hopefully there will be a constant drum beat of reminders of who Mussolini was and what he did. That old lesson — learn from the past or ….
Know what really scares me? Experience keeps a dear school & a fool will learn in no other. Let’s pray that our childrens’ learnin’ will not be as painful as it was for my parents generation.
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:05pm |
re: #205 chicagodudewhotrades
C-SPAN has live coverage of Gov. Blago’s trial in the IL. Senate. I have only had in on about 10 minutes and so far I have heard very little statements of support for the Gov. He’s done. Rumor is, his personal stuff is already boxed up at the Mansion.
Blago did not even stay around after his presentation. If he is removed , he may not have had state transportation home, so he split Springpatch.
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LGoPs Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:25pm |
re: #200 Iron Fist
No. There is absolutely no reason to trust Holder. None whatsoever.
I know, I know. It’s just so frustrating to see the Republicans treating with this guy. And with Democrats in general. They seem to have no understanding that this is not an honorable opposition party that they face. This is a party that considers them the true enemy and will act accordingly, to include lying right to their faces. They are people who are so full of themselves and their self-righteous, self-anointed agenda that they will rationalize anything…anything it takes to defeat the evil republicans. What in the world will it take to make the republicans wake up….?
I know this is a rhetorical rant and won’t accomplish anything. I’m just so frustrated at being represented by people who don’t even know they’re in a knife fight…..
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:38pm |
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:46pm |
re: #232 Miss Molly
Unreconstructed Rebel — we have to re-educate as many people as we can to the history of Mussolini and others like him. Hopefully there will be a constant drum beat of reminders of who Mussolini was and what he did. That old lesson — learn from the past or ….
The problem is that Mussolini made the trains run on time, then he started curtailing civil liberties. If O delivers on his promises and we emerge from the recession, then he will pull off the mask.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:50pm |
re: #240 FurryOldGuyJeans
I’m all for cooperation. O tried using legal means to achieve what he wanted and got brought up short by a military judge who also did what was legal and refused the government’s request.
yes, exactly.
I’m amazed that the O as well as his supposedly experienced staff did not realize that he could make everything go his way via Executive Order.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:41:12pm |
re: #218 karmic_inquisitor
They know about the detainment camp!
There are reports of electronic/magnetic vibrations which make some people sick and cause headaches in others.
I experienced that at Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta. It’s the wands and walkthrough metal detectors.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:41:34pm |
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:41:59pm |
re: #225 WriterMom
This is Iraqi gratitude: Town Reveals Sculpture in Honour of Shoe Thrower.
Assholes.
look at that laughable big crude flat footed shoe ‘sculpture’/planter.
lol, ridiculous and those dumb cretins who call it art.
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:01pm |
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:01pm |
re: #234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I like this one:
“The loyal dog feasts, but the treacherous cat no can haz cheezburgr.”
Hungarian
:-)))
(Don’t tell the goddess!)
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:07pm |
re: #249 reine.de.tout
yes, exactly.
I’m amazed that the O as well as his supposedly experienced staff did not realize that he could make everything go his way via Executive Order.
But Obama is still going to get his way if he wants to. He will tell the pentagon to dismiss the charges.
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jcbunga Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:37pm |
re: #96 jcm
Has anyone linked this story yet?
Report: Barack Obama’s Al Qaida initiative began months before his election
re: #246 LGoPs
I know this is a rhetorical rant and won’t accomplish anything. I’m just so frustrated at being represented by people who don’t even know they’re in a knife fight…..
I feel the same. I’m a little more hopeful after yesterday’s shutout vote, but the RINO’s need to be smacked into holding their ground.
Until then, The One has inspired me to be…..smarter
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:47pm |
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jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:50pm |
re: #251 MrSilverDragon
I always thought he looked more like Herman Munster.
Lurch, and Silky Pony.
… but I tend to agree with you.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:51pm |
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:12pm |
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:13pm |
re: #236 Cato the Elder
Or one’s fifties, for that matter. But most of his stuff stands the test of time, as science fiction.
As I get older, I’m more into history than futurology. My brother gave me the complete six-volume “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” for Christmas. A princely gift.
Wow!
A princely gift indeed!
Am a bit green with envy …
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Miss Molly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:28pm |
Unreconstructed Rebel — Sadly I fear we are becoming a nation that has dumbed down so much I wonder if we can ever reverse the process. The consequences from this dumbing down will possibly be more pain than we can handle.
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carefulnow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:31pm |
OT These hopin’ threads make this song come to mind:
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:50pm |
re: #229 yma o hyd
Thats the typical mindset of the LLL.
They nearly always come from well-to-do, middle class families who have given them a better than average education.
So they basically dirty their own nest - and in the process se to it than nobody else will get the opportunities they themselves had.
Right, Obama has never really had to strive, it has always been there from him. He is President of the Harvard Law Review, yet he does not submit even one article?
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:51pm |
re: #255 Nevergiveup
But Obama is still going to get his way if he wants to. He will tell the pentagon to dismiss the charges.
Well, that would be one way to do it.
But we need to wait and see what he does.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:44:23pm |
re: #240 FurryOldGuyJeans
I’m all for cooperation. O tried using legal means to achieve what he wanted and got brought up short by a military judge who also did what was legal and refused the government’s request.
Amd now the military procecutor will just be ordered to drop the charges without prejudice, same outcome.
/tribunal stops
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:44:31pm |
re: #257 FurryOldGuyJeans
Did you know he served in Vietnam? Just though you oughta know. ;)
Ted Cassidy was in Vietnam? Wow!
/
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:44:55pm |
re: #250 Alouette
I experienced that at Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta. It’s the wands and walkthrough metal detectors.
So much for Jimmy Connors and his goddamn magno-threapy whatsits. No wonder birthrates are down; we’re walking through too many stupid EMF’s and getting sterilized in the process. Coincidence? I think not!\
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:44:58pm |
re: #252 nyc redneck
I know. But even if they got fricking Picasso (yes I know he’s dead) to do one, it’s disgusting that those bastards are lionizing that disrespectful, primitive jihadi SOB who threw the shoe.
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:03pm |
re: #248 calcajun
The problem is that Mussolini made the trains run on time, then he started curtailing civil liberties. If O delivers on his promises and we emerge from the recession, then he will pull off the mask.
And then it’s: Behold. Our Dear Leader.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:12pm |
BTW - who is working level 3 this week?
Level 3 - everyone is weighed, in the nude, then given a jump suit uniform. The weight of the person is put on a computer I.D. card each day. Change in over three pounds requires a physical exam and X-ray.
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:16pm |
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:36pm |
re: #257 FurryOldGuyJeans
Did you know he served in Vietnam? Just though you oughta know. ;)
The memory is “seared ” into his memory.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:46pm |
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:47pm |
re: #264 opnion
As far as I can recall, he has absolutely no academic publications to his credit. NONE. I don’t think he has any mainstream articles (opinion, analysis, etc..) in his name either.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:49pm |
re: #249 reine.de.tout
yes, exactly.
I’m amazed that the O as well as his supposedly experienced staff did not realize that he could make everything go his way via Executive Order.
I am not amazed he thought he would always get his way. That seems to be an essential part of the man’s character; he’s always right and will get what he wants without actually working for it.
He reaction to being balked by the House Republicans, and now this blunting of his Gitmo EO, is so illustrative of the man’s Hubris.
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Ben Hur Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:58pm |
re: #242 Alouette
I agree 100% that the crossings should be open.
Between Egypt and Gaza.
Egypt. Arabs.
Gaza. Arabs.
Israel. Not Arabs.
BBL
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:04pm |
re: #259 Nevergiveup
Report: Peres apologizes to Erdogan for Davos incident
[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]
Why?
Had his arm twisted behind closed doors?
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:15pm |
re: #237 karmic_inquisitor
They found out about Dulce! Not Dulce! The Area 51 headfake has been compromised!
OMG! LOL! That’s awesome. Where did you get this?
LOVE the part about “mental telepathy”. What other kind of telepathy is there, scrotal?
They can lower your heartbeat with Deep Sleep ‘Delta Waves,’ induce a static shock, then reprogram, Via a Brain- Computer link.
Ah, yes, like the one I got from Computer City.
Here, is the device that powers the transfer of atoms.
Atom transfer. Not atom transfer! [Munches on duck leg.] What evil will they think of next?
Never mind:
There are multi- armed and multi-legged humans and several cages (and vats) of humanoid bat-like creatures up to 7- feet tall.
Eesh! We’re doomed. Doomed! Run in circles, scream and shout!
Note, however, that they didn’t detect any lizards. Means they haven’t penetrated to the heart of the plot yet. We’re still safe, for now.
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Miss Molly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:18pm |
Oh Calcajun — how right you are! In a second term with no one to put the brakes on Obama then he will absolutely rip off the mask and get to his true core.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:19pm |
re: #264 opnion
Right, Obama has never really had to strive, it has always been there from him. He is President of the Harvard Law Review, yet he does not submit even one article?
No personal experience here, but from what I’ve been reading, it sounds like Harvard is more about appearances than actual legal scholarship……very tough to get into unless you have enough money and/or know the right people, but pretty easy academically once you’re in.
Anyone with first-hand experience?
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avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:29pm |
re: #61 Killian Bundy
Mitchell: Open Gaza crossings with PA
/is he kidding?
That’s part of the suggest peace plan that Hamas does not accept. The borders would be controlled by Fatah, the Egyptians, Israel and maybe international forces.
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jcbunga Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:29pm |
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chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:31pm |
re: #245 opnion
I never thought about that. Yeah, makes sense. The second the vote happens, he is a private citizen pretty much, no more planes or car rides at gov expense
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n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:53pm |
If Rove is going to be investigated for the firing of Fed. Prosecutors, does that mean Obama is going to keep all the ones that worked under the Bush Admin.?
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:47:06pm |
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:47:26pm |
re: #270 WriterMom
Afternoon WriterMom. I have to agree with you a bit. You still have to look at it this way. We freed them to make any choice they want. Sometimes they will make wrong choices, and bad ones even. At least they are free to do what they want and sometimes even learn when they make mistakes.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:47:53pm |
re: #272 karmic_inquisitor
BTW - who is working level 3 this week?
What is this? Are you talking about Level 3 communications? Do you have a link for this?
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:05pm |
re: #264 opnion
Right, Obama has never really had to strive, it has always been there from him. He is President of the Harvard Law Review, yet he does not submit even one article?
Yes - odd, but were the MFM interested in that?
And will we now ever get to see his Harvard records? His medical records? Anything at all?
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:10pm |
re: #271 Soona’
And then it’s: Behold. Our Dear Leader.
You won’t know for sure until he brings out the mandatory uniforms. I mean, if you see him in a military get-up with jodhpurs and a Sam Browne belt, then be afraid. If it’s the geeky-looking Nation of Islam bow-ties…we’ll get a good chuckle before we’re shipped off to the re-education camps.
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:27pm |
There is an Illinois State Senator speaking now referring to the Great State of Illinois as the “Land of Lincoln & the Land of Obama”
By they way the town of Cicero is in his district. Tony Soprano would love Cicero.
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unreconstructed rebel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:37pm |
Time to call it a day. Godspeed, all.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:44pm |
re: #280 Cato the Elder
It is all here - List of US Underground Bases
Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:06pm |
re: #266 Killian Bundy
Amd now the military procecutor will just be ordered to drop the charges without prejudice, same outcome.
/tribunal stops
Sorry, that will NEVER happen, ever. The president has NO authority to tell a military judge what to do when it comes to the proceedings in court. The chain of command MAY drop the charges, which then invalidates the judge’s ruling so we are right back to the same hearings have stopped outcome.
What is going on at Gitmo are hearings, not tribunals.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:09pm |
re: #223 calcajun
I might agree, but those were summary trials —followed by summary executions. (Skorzeny’s troops caught in the Ardennes in 44-45). If you go down that line, you start getting into “Breaker Morant” territory.
I was thinking about those caught in the US
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Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:14pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:17pm |
re: #290 Walter L. Newton
What is this? Are you talking about Level 3 communications? Do you have a link for this?
Never mind. That’s what happens when I jump into the middle of a thread.
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:28pm |
re: #276 WriterMom
As far as I can recall, he has absolutely no academic publications to his credit. NONE. I don’t think he has any mainstream articles (opinion, analysis, etc..) in his name either.
I said it during the campaign; we’ve elected Chauncey/Chance the Gardener —but with an attitude.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:39pm |
re: #261 yma o hyd
Wow!
A princely gift indeed!Am a bit green with envy …
That’s the color of the binding, in fact.
I’ll let you borrow when I get done. That should be in about … 1011 or so. I’m a multiple-book-at-a-time reader, so I won’t make it through any faster..
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:58pm |
re: #277 FurryOldGuyJeans
I am not amazed he thought he would always get his way. That seems to be an essential part of the man’s character; he’s always right and will get what he wants without actually working for it.
He reaction to being balked by the House Republicans, and now this blunting of his Gitmo EO, is so illustrative of the man’s Hubris.
You are correct of course.
I seem to keep making the mistake of thinking rationally instead of thinking like the O.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:07pm |
re: #295 karmic_inquisitor
It is all here - List of US Underground Bases
Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!
Nothing in Colorado. Say that over and over… no bases in Colorado… no bases in Colorado… no bases in Colorado…
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jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:08pm |
re: #287 karmic_inquisitor
Let us not forget about Jenjis Khan.
Or Nixon sending him into Cambodia in 1968 (my personal favorite)
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:14pm |
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Joan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:24pm |
re: #92 Cato the Elder
Charles, have you seen this yet?
Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.
Administration shocked!
Whoooo-eeee! The Prom King not gonna like that. Nope—they better watch out, he’s meaner than catshit on a shoestring, a ferocious Warbler.
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:34pm |
re: #288 BlueCanuck
A dilemma. I get really upset about displays of ingratitude…especially when our soldiers are there, putting their lives on the line. Especially when they defer to sharia to punish the innocents.
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:35pm |
re: #272 karmic_inquisitor
BTW - who is working level 3 this week?
I’m assigned to level 4, Chem trail operations (he didn’t find out about us HA).
I take my lunch break in the level 3 viewing room.
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yochanan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:37pm |
re: #205 chicagodudewhotrades
I have had it on for two hours there hasn’t been one in support of him
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:37pm |
re: #304 reine.de.tout
You are correct of course.
I seem to keep making the mistake of thinking rationally instead of thinking like the O.
I wouldn’t stop being rational if I were you. ;)
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:39pm |
re: #300 Walter L. Newton
Never mind. That’s what happens when I jump into the middle of a thread.
Talkin’ to yourself, Walter?
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:40pm |
re: #291 yma o hyd
Yes - odd, but were the MFM interested in that?
And will we now ever get to see his Harvard records? His medical records? Anything at all?
His medical records? I’d say “Captain, this man is a Klingon”, but no Klingon is that wimpy.
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chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:01pm |
re: #293 opnion
Wasn’t Cicero the city of that female mayor who got busted? The one with all the make-up? Betty Maltese? Some name like that?
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:06pm |
re: #264 opnion
Right, Obama has never really had to strive, it has always been there from him. He is President of the Harvard Law Review, yet he does not submit even one article?
he has never had to work for anything. his handlers paved the way for him in chicago and all thru the campaign he was carried by the msm and his puppet masters.
yes now, he is going to have problems when he meets w/ resistance.
he has no experience in dealing w/ opposition.
how arrogant for him to bill himself as the great unifier.
quite absurd. he has no idea how to bring anyone or anything together.
he made a fool of himself reaching out to ropers on al-arabiya.
they are mocking him.
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UberInfidel67 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:08pm |
re: #295 karmic_inquisitor
The scary ones are the ones that say “function unknown”!
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:10pm |
re: #298 Kosh’s Shadow
I was thinking about those caught in the US
Me, too. The Germans spies and saboteurs caught in the US were tried and executed—fairly quickly.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:15pm |
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Miss Molly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:24pm |
Maybe it is just me but I don’t believe that Obama is as “smart” as he would like everyone to believe. He got into Harvard because he was sponsered by “friends”. I don’t think he wrote an article for the Harvard Law Review because he doesn’t have the ability and it would be way to obvious that he doesn’t have that intellectual ability. He has always skated by on charm and the race card. I just don’t see any “great mind” of Obama.
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:26pm |
re: #282 eschew_obfuscation
No personal experience here, but from what I’ve been reading, it sounds like Harvard is more about appearances than actual legal scholarship……very tough to get into unless you have enough money and/or know the right people, but pretty easy academically once you’re in.
Anyone with first-hand experience?
Yeah, I have heard that too about Harvard. But to my point, any President of Law Review at any Law School would submit an article.
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Opinionated Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:27pm |
re: #2 WriterMom
Oh…thank Obama for this blessed open thread.
Rabbi, is there a proper blessing for the One?
Of course. May the lord bless and keep the One .. . far away from us.
/Fiddler
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jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:34pm |
re: #300 Walter L. Newton
Never mind. That’s what happens when I jump into the middle of a thread.
Thank you for looking stupid for me.
I was about ready to do the same thing.
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:42pm |
re: #286 n in wi
If Rove is going to be investigated for the firing of Fed. Prosecutors, does that mean Obama is going to keep all the ones that worked under the Bush Admin.?
I’ve been waiting for that shoe to drop …. to see how mightily the MFM try to ignore it.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:55pm |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:58pm |
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WriterMom Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:01pm |
re: #316 nyc redneck
Exactly. Ayers identified him as an easy sell to the masses…and the rest is history.
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:03pm |
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:05pm |
re: #309 WriterMom
It happens. If we are lucky that whole area may be more stable then before just because we went in and cleaned it up.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:22pm |
re: #323 jwb7605
Thank you for looking stupid for me.
I was about ready to do the same thing.
Are you in the underground base outside of Boulder?
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:27pm |
re: #317 UberInfidel67
The scary ones are the ones that say “function unknown”!
Can only mean one thing - Alien/Masonic/Zionist conspiracy.
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BBev Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:46pm |
re: #225 WriterMom
This is Iraqi gratitude: Town Reveals Sculpture in Honour of Shoe Thrower.
Assholes.
I wonder how they will feel if Obama cuts and runs before they are ready, I have to wonder how they will feel if someone throws a shoe at Imadinnerjacket there new overlord if we do cut and run to soon? I’m sure they won’t be laughing as they are in the picture!
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:52pm |
Fools. The Colorado bases are just a distraction from the real bases in… No, I’ve said too much already.
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:52pm |
re: #322 Opinionated
Rabbi, is there a proper blessing for the One?
Of course. May the lord bless and keep the One .. . far away from us.
/Fiddler
Just remember, no matter where you go, there’s the czar.
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n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:53:08pm |
re: #293 opnion
There is an Illinois State Senator speaking now referring to the Great State of Illinois as the “Land of Lincoln & the Land of Obama”
By they way the town of Cicero is in his district. Tony Soprano would love Cicero.
You misunderstood.
It was the land of Omaha and Lincoln,Nebraska
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jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:53:12pm |
re: #319 karmic_inquisitor
The Magic Hat.
How in the hell do Massachusetts voters pull the lever for that guy without snickering?
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:53:15pm |
re: #303 Cato the Elder
That’s the color of the binding, in fact.
I’ll let you borrow when I get done. That should be in about … 1011 or so. I’m a multiple-book-at-a-time reader, so I won’t make it through any faster..
Heh.
One of those, are ye?
Me too.
There are ‘downstairs’ books and ‘upstairs’ books …
Mind - being on LGF is rather detrimental to reading time …
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:53:47pm |
re: #311 yochanan
I have had it on for two hours there hasn’t been one in support of him
Have you noticed that every Democrat makes a reference to Obama?
Hey Obama & Emanuel helped to get Blago elected!
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eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:02pm |
re: #321 opnion
Yeah, I have heard that too about Harvard. But to my point, any President of Law Review at any Law School would submit an article.
One would certainly expect so!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:02pm |
re: #320 Miss Molly
Maybe it is just me but I don’t believe that Obama is as “smart” as he would like everyone to believe. He got into Harvard because he was sponsered by “friends”. I don’t think he wrote an article for the Harvard Law Review because he doesn’t have the ability and it would be way to obvious that he doesn’t have that intellectual ability. He has always skated by on charm and the race card. I just don’t see any “great mind” of Obama.
I would go so far as to say that it wasn’t even friends that got the man into Harvard. It was out and out a quota appointment.
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kcladderman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:08pm |
re: #265 reine.de.tout
Hey reine was just browsing the other threads and saw the cook book looks great. Can’t wait to order mine.
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UberInfidel67 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:23pm |
re: #320 Miss Molly
He has simply learned to harness the power of “BULLSHIT”.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:23pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:42pm |
Is it possible that I have seen the same quote on a thread before? Never been more appropriate than it is now, but is it possible?
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vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:52pm |
re: #320 Miss Molly
More sly than brilliant. Then again, I never saw the genius of the Clintons either.Slick, sneaky, arrogant, condescending, yes.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:59pm |
re: #323 jwb7605
Thank you for looking stupid for me.
I was about ready to do the same thing.
It shows you how much my mind is on a programming job all the time. Level 3 hires, layoffs, hires, layoffs… it’s a revolving door.
And it shoots itself in the foot all the time. In the past 5 years, twice I have had some short term contract work with companies that were started by past Level 3 employees.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:55:01pm |
re: #297 FurryOldGuyJeans
Sorry, that will NEVER happen, ever. The president has NO authority to tell a military judge what to do when it comes to the proceedings in court. The chain of command MAY drop the charges, which then invalidates the judge’s ruling so we are right back to the same hearings have stopped outcome.
What is going on at Gitmo are hearings, not tribunals.
/you’re not a lawyer are you?
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snopercod Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:55:08pm |
re: #83 DisturbedEma
Here’s a link (with photo): A Hypocrite? Moi, Barack?
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lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:55:18pm |
re: #301 Iron Fist
I agree with you. Even when they do fight, they are badly overmatched now. I just got an email about some legislation that just passed the House on a party-line vote. We’re not sure how it is going to effect us yet, but it is huge amounts of money being thrown at the health care industry from government coffers. Of course, this will be small potatoes if Obama socializes the entire
Medical IndustryUS economy.
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Moonbat Serenade Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:02pm |
re: #145 karmic_inquisitor
OMG - another one has found out about our tunnel system under the southwest and our complex under Denver Airport.
Good thing - they only know about the first 7 levels and I work on level 8.
I just finished watching those videos. My tinfoil hat started sparking wildly and scared the Unicorn so bad that now I have a big, steaming pile of skittles on the carpet.
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jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:06pm |
re: #330 Walter L. Newton
Are you in the underground base outside of Boulder?
Yup. Had to bring the cats in this morning … Commie Coyote running the ditch. Neighborhood sentry actually knocked on my door with the info!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:08pm |
re: #344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Is it possible that I have seen the same quote on a thread before? Never been more appropriate than it is now, but is it possible?
And it’s possible that you have been drinking too much already today, and this is not even happening.
/
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:16pm |
re: #325 Walter L. Newton
Stimulus… whoopee…
Well that Telluride tunnel is sweet. Took the kids on a ski trip a couple years back - went through the Ft Irwin entrance to Page, AZ, caught the tunnel to Roswell NM, overshot to Cheyenne, WY but backtracked to Telluride via the Denver Airport (where I picked up my Zionist conspiracy check, thanks Charles). Tunnel travel is the only way to go, but the views get a bit “boring”
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:37pm |
re: #295 karmic_inquisitor
It is all here - List of US Underground Bases
Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!
OMG OMG! Where can I go to escape?
MARYLAND:
Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland (from Don)
Martins AFB, Aberdeen Proving Ground, MarylandDon wrote: I was just looking at your satellite photo of the chem trails over the East Coast (Maryland in particular), and I noticed a strange coincidence. I’m from Maryland and I noticed that the two streaks over the state seem to run next to major military installations. The more eastern of the two runs over Aberdeen Proving Ground, Edgewood Arsenal, and Martins AFB. The more western of the two runs near Ft. Meade. Aberdeen Proving Ground and Edgewood Arsenal seem to have a lot of strange or peculiar things about them as well. I live near both and often can hear the weapons testing. I know for a fact that there are large storages of chemical weapons at Edgewood. In high school, we had to do pressurization drills once a month where the entire school would pile into the gym and we would seal the gym and pressurize it to keep the gas out. There are sirens all over the community they test once a week (every Wed. at 4) that are to alert of potential chemical weapons leaks. There is constant military air traffic all over the area, and chemtrails are a regular occurrence (until I was about 18, I thought it was normal for contrails to stay for at least 6 hours!). These two bases are always heavily guarded and secured, even before 9/11. One of my friend’s dad is an army chemist out there, and he is not allowed to even discuss what he does. The only way I knew that he was a chemist was because he is a doctor and the insignia on his uniform is from the chemical corps. He is very secretive and often disappears late at night to go to work, apparently at a moment’s notice (he has two pagers, a govt. one and his regular one). Aberdeen Proving Grounds is the United States’ largest military testing facility, and Edgewood Arsenal is it’s largest store of arms. I could fill a book with the peculiarities of these two installations.
Thank you, Don, for opening my eyes. Now I know where these headaches are coming from.
But WTF are “chem trails”?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:57:27pm |
re: #353 Walter L. Newton
*hic*… i dunno wush u r talkjn aboot.
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:57:29pm |
re: #343 yma o hyd
Well, the hatchlings can show their mettle here - let them start digging!
He’s only found out about levels 1 -7, we can move critical operations to other levels. Remember the the nitrogen filled chamber is on level xx [deleted for security reasons]. The south expansion complex is about complete. Plenty of room over there.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:57:44pm |
re: #343 yma o hyd
Well, the hatchlings can show their mettle here - let them start digging!
Remember last year when the hatchlings dug right into that anti-gravity chamber!
ROTCLMAO!
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jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:57:59pm |
re: #346 Walter L. Newton
It shows you how much my mind is on a programming job all the time. Level 3 hires, layoffs, hires, layoffs… it’s a revolving door.
And it shoots itself in the foot all the time. In the past 5 years, twice I have had some short term contract work with companies that were started by past Level 3 employees.
If Obama cuts loose with some gummint money to start companies, we need to talk.
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n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:58:05pm |
re: #320 Miss Molly
Maybe it is just me but I don’t believe that Obama is as “smart” as he would like everyone to believe. He got into Harvard because he was sponsered by “friends”. I don’t think he wrote an article for the Harvard Law Review because he doesn’t have the ability and it would be way to obvious that he doesn’t have that intellectual ability. He has always skated by on charm and the race card. I just don’t see any “great mind” of Obama.
But,he reads one helluva teleprompter.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:58:20pm |
re: #355 Cato the Elder
Thank you, Don, for opening my eyes. Now I know where these headaches are coming from.
But WTF are “chem trails”?
Moonbat farts.
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Joan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:58:56pm |
re: #298 Kosh’s Shadow
I was thinking about those caught in the US
Ah, but then we were at war, in a big war, a real war. The Prom King, the Warbler King, thinks we’re engaged in “The Case Against Terror,” he don’t like this “War on Terror” stuff. “Arrest that man! Arrest that man!” I gotta find the lizard who posted, and give a trademark note to ‘m
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:59:02pm |
re: #358 karmic_inquisitor
Remember last year when the hatchlings dug right into that anti-gravity chamber!
ROTCLMAO!
Heh.
Which reminds me - where are the hatchlings?
Anybody seen any?
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:59:12pm |
re: #301 Iron Fist
I agree with you. Even when they do fight, they are badly overmatched now. I just got an email about some legislation that just passed the House on a party-line vote. We’re not sure how it is going to effect us yet, but it is huge amounts of money being thrown at the health care industry from government coffers. Of course, this will be small potatoes if Obama socializes the entire Medical Industry.
The government has been throwing obscenely large wads of cash at the medical establishment for a long time now. That’s how they support all of the junk science you keep seeing about how bad our health is and the government agency/agenda efforts to curb our horrible behavior.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:59:38pm |
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jcbunga Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:00:05pm |
re: #363 yma o hyd
Heh.
Which reminds me - where are the hatchlings?
Anybody seen any?
They are riveted staring at the ShamWow display
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:00:15pm |
re: #360 n in wi
But,he reads one helluva teleprompter.
Makes him look shifty, though … right-left-right-left, not good enough!
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:00:24pm |
re: #363 yma o hyd
Heh.
Which reminds me - where are the hatchlings?
Anybody seen any?
Check Level 9
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:07pm |
re: #354 karmic_inquisitor
Well that Telluride tunnel is sweet. Took the kids on a ski trip a couple years back - went through the Ft Irwin entrance to Page, AZ, caught the tunnel to Roswell NM, overshot to Cheyenne, WY but backtracked to Telluride via the Denver Airport (where I picked up my Zionist conspiracy check, thanks Charles). Tunnel travel is the only way to go, but the views get a bit “boring”
First time I found out my ex-wife had Typhlology (fear of tunnels) was in France. We were in eastern France, headed to the alps, and she was driving a rental (I was too drunk to drive) and we started to hit those moderately long tunnels. The first one was just under a mile long and she froze up inside. She made it through, but it was like having a corpse holding on the the wheel.
Never in the first 9 years of our marriage had we ever had to drive through a tunnel that long. We have a few right outside of Golden, but you can see the end. She’s alright if she can see the exit.
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Miss Molly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:08pm |
n i wi — I would like to know who is writing Obama’s speeches. You are right — he reads one hell of a teleprompter but can’t put 2 sentences together by himself. And, when asked somewhat hard questions he has to have someone else answer for him or simply doesn’t answer the question at all.
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:11pm |
re: #270 WriterMom
I know. But even if they got fricking Picasso (yes I know he’s dead) to do one, it’s disgusting that those bastards are lionizing that disrespectful, primitive jihadi SOB who threw the shoe.
it is disgusting.
i’m laughing at the low-lifes who love this fcker.
they find this stupid shoe, suitable for public art and that makes the farce complete.
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:24pm |
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jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:24pm |
re: #365 karmic_inquisitor
Courtesy of Educate Yourself.
Just when I thought it couldn’t get any wierder …
That, on top of Blago this morning!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:28pm |
re: #347 Killian Bundy
/you’re not a lawyer are you?
Oh, I misunderstood what you wrote earlier. You said prosecutor and I read judge. My bad.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:33pm |
re: #363 yma o hyd
Well one was doing bar duty last night. Mixing up some fine drinks. I think s/he even cleaned up some egg shells. Oh yeah, nice avatar too. Name of LauraO I think.
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:34pm |
re: #355 Cato the Elder
Thank you, Don, for opening my eyes. Now I know where these headaches are coming from.
But WTF are “chem trails”?
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Joan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:50pm |
re: #293 opnion
There is an Illinois State Senator speaking now referring to the Great State of Illinois as the “Land of Lincoln & the Land of Obama”
By they way the town of Cicero is in his district. Tony Soprano would love Cicero.
They have no shame, vapid, feckless fools with their specious delusions of grandeur. They bear the Mark of Zero!
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kcladderman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:02:03pm |
re: #305 Walter L. Newton
Nothing in Colorado. Say that over and over… no bases in Colorado… no bases in Colorado… no bases in Colorado…
The one in Kansas City KS is huge! The entrance is 9 miles east of Kansas
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:02:21pm |
re: #369 karmic_inquisitor
Check Level 9
LEVEL 9!? They don’t have the keys to the wine / beer cellar do they?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:11pm |
re: #321 opnion
Yeah, I have heard that too about Harvard. But to my point, any President of Law Review at any Law School would submit an article.
Any President but the O. Can’t actually have a record he might have to defend in the future, you know.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:12pm |
re: #359 jwb7605
If Obama cuts loose with some gummint money to start companies, we need to talk.
He’s not going to give anything away that will benefit a private business. Unless it’s in some “green” scam.
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Miss Molly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:19pm |
jcm — you made me spill my coffee laughing so hard!
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yma o hyd Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:24pm |
Gotta go, Lizards, Madame Dog has done her preliminary stretches and is ready for action!
Seeya tomorrow, all being well, and hatchlings, you can come out now!
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MrMisanthrope Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:38pm |
“Although President Obama could not attend the event, Vice President Joe Biden and his wife, Jill, dropped by to express the nation’s gratitude for the sacrifices and heroism of these 47 veterans, and for all veterans and servicemembers.”
[Link: www.legion.org…]
Could not? Could not? Try WOULD NOT. HE DOESN’T DESERVE YOUR COVER STORY!
Meh.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:04:06pm |
re: #371 Miss Molly
n i wi — I would like to know who is writing Obama’s speeches. You are right — he reads one hell of a teleprompter but can’t put 2 sentences together by himself. And, when asked somewhat hard questions he has to have someone else answer for him or simply doesn’t answer the question at all.
His main speechwriter is Jon Favreau (he wrote the “race speech”) …and I guess being The One’s speechwriter has perks …
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
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BBev Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:05:03pm |
re: #370 Walter L. Newton
First time I found out my ex-wife had Typhlology (fear of tunnels) was in France. We were in eastern France, headed to the alps, and she was driving a rental (I was too drunk to drive) and we started to hit those moderately long tunnels. The first one was just under a mile long and she froze up inside. She made it through, but it was like having a corpse holding on the the wheel.
Never in the first 9 years of our marriage had we ever had to drive through a tunnel that long. We have a few right outside of Golden, but you can see the end. She’s alright if she can see the exit.
Man don’t let her dive in Boston she surly will be a corpse with the new tunnels and the way people drive around here
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:05:20pm |
re: #365 karmic_inquisitor
Courtesy of Educate Yourself.
Could I instead do a prefrontal lobotomy on myself by shoving frozen peas up my nose?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:07pm |
re: #388 BBev
Man don’t let her dive in Boston she surly will be a corpse with the new tunnels and the way people drive around here
Well, she’s my ex-wife, so I don’t have much to do with it anymore. I wonder if she wants a free road trip to Boston?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:15pm |
re: #383 Walter L. Newton
He’s not going to give anything away that will benefit a private business. Unless it’s in some “green” scam.
Come up with some computer program to show people how to be green.
Come on, people, I’m working without a net! ;)
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lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:31pm |
re: #355 Cato the Elder
Thank you, Don, for opening my eyes. Now I know where these headaches are coming from.
But WTF are “chem trails”?
A conspiracy theory believed by people who have never heard of the high-bypass turbofan engine.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:46pm |
re: #385 yma o hyd
Gotta go, Lizards, Madame Dog has done her preliminary stretches and is ready for action!
Sexy!
| 394 |
Miss Molly Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:56pm |
Jackson Tn — thanks for that information. Somehow I missed that.
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chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:08pm |
The one thing I’ll miss when Gov. Blago is no longer in charge is his wonderful poetry readings…..Charles Krauthammer said the same thing a couple days ago during the panel discussion on Brett Baier’s “special Report’. :)
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Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:20pm |
re: #392 lobo91
A conspiracy theory believed by people who have never heard of the high-bypass turbofan engine.
Doesn’t everything leave a chemtrail?
That’s what any good Hound dog will tell you
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:22pm |
re: #370 Walter L. Newton
First time I found out my ex-wife had Typhlology (fear of tunnels) was in France. We were in eastern France, headed to the alps, and she was driving a rental (I was too drunk to drive) and we started to hit those moderately long tunnels. The first one was just under a mile long and she froze up inside. She made it through, but it was like having a corpse holding on the the wheel.
Never in the first 9 years of our marriage had we ever had to drive through a tunnel that long. We have a few right outside of Golden, but you can see the end. She’s alright if she can see the exit.
Did she know before that?
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:31pm |
re: #295 karmic_inquisitor
It is all here - List of US Underground Bases
Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!
Never mind the chem trails question. I did some INTERNET RESEARCH on my very own!
This stuff has me aghast! Going on right over our heads, the heartless scientist bastards! I’m going to write to my representatives.
[Sane note: Look at their picture of “chem trails” over the mid-Atlantic states. Those are big stratus clouds, you idiots. “Chem trails” would be invisible at that height. Either that, or there are some super-secret giant planes up there. Come to think of it…OMG OMG OMG!]
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BBev Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:08:22pm |
re: #390 Walter L. Newton
Well, she’s my ex-wife, so I don’t have much to do with it anymore. I wonder if she wants a free road trip to Boston?
LOL
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:08:38pm |
re: #335 n in wi
You misunderstood.
It was the land of Omaha and Lincoln,Nebraska
That makes more sense then.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:08:48pm |
re: #395 chicagodudewhotrades
The one thing I’ll miss when Gov. Blago is no longer in charge is his wonderful poetry readings…..Charles Krauthammer said the same thing a couple days ago during the panel discussion on Brett Baier’s “special Report’. :)
As soon as the senators stop bloviating and vote, Blago will no longer be the governor. I guess they each need their 5 minutes of fame.
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kcladderman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:09:37pm |
re: #398 Cato the Elder
Never mind the chem trails question. I did some INTERNET RESEARCH on my very own!
This stuff has me aghast! Going on right over our heads, the heartless scientist bastards! I’m going to write to my representatives.
[Sane note: Look at their picture of “chem trails” over the mid-Atlantic states. Those are big stratus clouds, you idiots. “Chem trails” would be invisible at that height. Either that, or there are some super-secret giant planes up there. Come to think of it…OMG OMG OMG!]
OH NO! It sounds like they got Cato
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lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:09:59pm |
re: #398 Cato the Elder
Never mind the chem trails question. I did some INTERNET RESEARCH on my very own!
This stuff has me aghast! Going on right over our heads, the heartless scientist bastards! I’m going to write to my representatives.
Start with Kucinich. He’s apparently actually inserted some of this crap into the Congressional Record.
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jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:10pm |
re: #383 Walter L. Newton
He’s not going to give anything away that will benefit a private business. Unless it’s in some “green” scam.
Check this link out.
Gives me a lot of ideas (and I’m also a hardware engineer)
Boulder company. I know the release manager, who works for the funding consortium. That guy lives in Texas.
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n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:21pm |
re: #401 Honorary Yooper
As soon as the senators stop bloviating and vote, Blago will no longer be the governor. I guess they each need their 5 minutes of fame.
We can catch the second act when he goes to trial,can’t we?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:24pm |
re: #295 karmic_inquisitor
It is all here - List of US Underground Bases
Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!
I always knew the Yakima Indians were a creepy bunch, but Mt. Rainier and Mt. St. Helens are secret underground UFO bases?
Someone needs to take up glue sniffing as hobby.
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filetandrelease Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:42pm |
I’m wondering, here in FL we keep having convenient stores swallowed up by pesky sink holes, hmm……
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avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:47pm |
re: #340 FurryOldGuyJeans
I would go so far as to say that it wasn’t even friends that got the man into Harvard. It was out and out a quota appointment.
No, it was mostly his grades and a legacy deal since his father was a grad that got him in. Obama graduated magna cum laude. Dislike him if you like, but he’s not unintelligent.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:57pm |
re: #391 FurryOldGuyJeans
Come up with some computer program to show people how to be green. Come on, people, I’m working without a net! ;)
The last real job I had, for 13 years, for the National Renewable Energy Lab here in Golden, I did write a complete system that kept track of clean energy projects that were being installed in federal facilities. The government agency was FEMP (Federal Energy Management Program) and I developed an application that tracked projects in all federal facilities, the energy savings, cost, project out savings, all sorts of metrics.
So, it’s possible, with my background and all this Obama giving away money and the green mania, somewhere in there is something for me to do.
I’m 56, white, single, male. Probably not.
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Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:07pm |
re: #406 n in wi
We can catch the second act when he goes to trial,can’t we?
Will he be able to call rahm emmanuel at his criminal trial ?
that ought to be a hoot
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:12pm |
re: #406 n in wi
We can catch the second act when he goes to trial,can’t we?
Yep. It’ll be yet another circus when he goes on trial.
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:18pm |
re: #379 Joan
They have no shame, vapid, feckless fools with their specious delusions of grandeur. They bear the Mark of Zero!
The real irony is that everyone of these Senators lauding Obama know that he swam in the same corrupt swamp as Blago.
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lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:44pm |
re: #407 FurryOldGuyJeans
I always knew the Yakima Indians were a creepy bunch, but Mt. Rainier and Mt. St. Helens are secret underground UFO bases?
Someone needs to take up glue sniffing as hobby.
I’ve read some of that stuff before. I think the sniffing of glue was actually an essential part of the writing process.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:46pm |
re: #398 Cato the Elder
Don’t forget if you are talking to a moonbat that believes that tripe, pretend to answer your cell phone and look at them furtively. Keep doing this and they will eventually leave you alone. Some of these moonbats are skeered of the evil tracking systems embedded in cell phones. Even when turned off they can track you and listen to your conversations. :p
/I know a store where you aren’t allowed to have an active cell phone in it. Guy is nuts, but he does have good stock of geek supplies.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:02pm |
re: #401 Honorary Yooper
As soon as the senators stop bloviating and vote, Blago will no longer be the governor. I guess they each need their 5 minutes of fame.
How else are they to show their constituents they are working if it wasn’t for flapping their gums? You really don’t think like a politician, you know. ;)
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yochanan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:05pm |
re: #408 filetandrelease
got an pics and links please we have one sink hole here in Ill. here it is called springfield and crook country
| 418 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:47pm |
A true intellectual Illinois State Senator just said, “People are just human beings, like everyone else.” How true.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:49pm |
re: #397 karmic_inquisitor
Did she know before that?
No, she found out about 300 meters in to the first tunnel.
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BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:13:32pm |
re: #409 avanti
No, it was mostly his grades and a legacy deal since his father was a grad that got him in. Obama graduated magna cum laude. Dislike him if you like, but he’s not unintelligent.
Really? Did he finally release his transcripts?
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lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:13:35pm |
re: #410 Walter L. Newton
The last real job I had, for 13 years, for the National Renewable Energy Lab here in Golden, I did write a complete system that kept track of clean energy projects that were being installed in federal facilities. The government agency was FEMP (Federal Energy Management Program) and I developed an application that tracked projects in all federal facilities, the energy savings, cost, project out savings, all sorts of metrics.
We’re saving all sorts of energy in my federal building.
The friggin’ heat’s been broken on my side of the building since Monday.
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chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:13:51pm |
re: #401 Honorary Yooper
Yoop, write up something about this for your blog. Something like a title of ” Gov, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out’
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n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:08pm |
re: #418 opnion
A true intellectual Illinois State Senator just said, “People are just human beings, like everyone else.” How true.
WOW, the brain trust we call government.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:25pm |
The US State department has a blog. It is called (I kid you not) DIPNOTE.
Welcome to DipNote, the State Department’s official blog. DipNote gives context, clarity and other behind the scenes insights on the foreign policy headlines in which you’re most interested. The information is provided to you by those actually doing the work.The term “DipNote” refers to a diplomatic note, one of the many means by which governments formally communicate with one another. Aside from the title, we make every effort to minimize the use of jargon and acronyms. When they’re unavoidable, we explain them. We want this blog to be as accessible and user-friendly as possible. This blog represents your opportunity to engage State Department…
Question of the Week: What Foreign Policy Objectives Should the Obama Administration Establish as its Top Priorities?
They’re getting input from all over the world.
Hatem in Egypt writes:Dear sirs,
You know what the priority should be in terms of the Middle East? Simply the implementation of international law and security council resolutions.
Resolutions which include that the annexing of Jerusalem is rejected by the UN, that Gaza and the West bank and all pre-1967 Arab land is under occupation and that inhabitants have a right to resist this occupation, that Israel as the occupier has a duty to protect the people it is occupying….
Etc.
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jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:45pm |
re: #391 FurryOldGuyJeans
Come up with some computer program to show people how to be green.
Come on, people, I’m working without a net! ;)
See my #405 reply to Walter.
The product comes with software that “talks with” the power company, and suggests modifications to power using appliances. Such as shutting the refrigerator down for an hour a day, etc. It is a seriously cool product.
| 427 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:46pm |
Did I hear correctly that this paltry “tax cut” of 500 per, is going to be divvied up on a weekly basis? What does that amount to, about 9 bucks extra in the paycheck?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:15:17pm |
re: #409 avanti
No, it was mostly his grades and a legacy deal since his father was a grad that got him in. Obama graduated magna cum laude. Dislike him if you like, but he’s not unintelligent.
When have I ever said he wasn’t intelligent? You really just have to come around and try blowing Obama sunshine up everyone’s ass, don’t you?
And how do YOU know what it was that got him in? Only what the MEDIA told you. Now they don’t EVER misrepresent the truth or fail to investigate things, do they?
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nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:15:25pm |
re: #371 Miss Molly
n i wi — I would like to know who is writing Obama’s speeches. You are right — he reads one hell of a teleprompter but can’t put 2 sentences together by himself. And, when asked somewhat hard questions he has to have someone else answer for him or simply doesn’t answer the question at all.
for some one who is touted as a genius, a lightworker, and a messiah,
he should be some what “well spoken”.
the incessant uh, uh, uh’s and the stuttering and stammering, just to put a simple sentence together, tends o show me he ain’t that bright.
| 430 |
avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:15:36pm |
Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .
| 431 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:15:43pm |
re: #421 lobo91
We’re saving all sorts of energy in my federal building.
The friggin’ heat’s been broken on my side of the building since Monday.
There were a lot of projects in your facility. It was a demonstration site. Don’t blame me, I don’t work for the DOE any more. Talk to your manager (er, captain, er, what ever, I don’t do mil jargon).
:)
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:06pm |
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jamgarr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:10pm |
Chemtrails schmemtrails!
But I swear I saw a “doughnuts-on-a-rope” contrail in the St. Louis area several years ago (indicative of a pulse jet).
| 434 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:10pm |
re: #420 BlueCanuck
Really? Did he finally release his transcripts?
He knows what the media told him. And they had no reason to lie or not investigate things, did they?
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:32pm |
re: #409 avanti
No, it was mostly his grades and a legacy deal since his father was a grad that got him in. Obama graduated magna cum laude. Dislike him if you like, but he’s not unintelligent.
Avanti, Obama by his own admission was a poor high school student.
He had bad grades & spent his time drunk, doing grass & coked up.
How in the world does he get an academic scholarship to Occidental U in California?
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lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:37pm |
re: #427 vagabond trader
Did I hear correctly that this paltry “tax cut” of 500 per, is going to be divvied up on a weekly basis? What does that amount to, about 9 bucks extra in the paycheck?
That’s exactly what they’re planning. It’s a reduction in federal tax withholding that will total up to $500 per single person or $1000 for married couples over the course of the year.
| 437 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:16pm |
re: #433 jamgarr
Chemtrails schmemtrails!
But I swear I saw a “doughnuts-on-a-rope” contrail in the St. Louis area several years ago (indicative of a pulse jet).
Regular jets can produce those as well, if the conditions are right.
| 438 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:21pm |
re: #426 jwb7605
You know where my email address is, not hard to find. We’ll stay in touch, so if any real idea pop up, let me know, I’m always open to ideas.
| 439 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:24pm |
re: #423 n in wi
WOW, the brain trust we call government.
Just so, our President was part of this esteemed body>
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:33pm |
re: #396 Shug
Doesn’t everything leave a chemtrail?
That’s what any good Hound dog will tell you
That’s what my Siamese tomcat will tell you too.
| 442 |
chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:32pm |
WTF is state senator Ricky Hendon going off about?
| 443 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:40pm |
re: #418 opnion
A true intellectual Illinois State Senator just said, “People are just human beings, like everyone else.” How true.
Wrong. Aliens live among us.
| 444 |
jamgarr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:43pm |
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:48pm |
re: #415 BlueCanuck
Don’t forget if you are talking to a moonbat that believes that tripe, pretend to answer your cell phone and look at them furtively. Keep doing this and they will eventually leave you alone. Some of these moonbats are skeered of the evil tracking systems embedded in cell phones. Even when turned off they can track you and listen to your conversations. :p
/I know a store where you aren’t allowed to have an active cell phone in it. Guy is nuts, but he does have good stock of geek supplies.
That’s a great tactic! And I know just the guy I’m going to try it out on first. Local “poet” and “activist” whose latest letter to the editor told us what to do about crappy radio station programming: Organize! Get together, people, and form picket lines outside the stations, with bullhorns, placards and brochures. That will convince the passersby that … well … that we’ve got bullhorns!
Guy must have used the word organize a dozen times in a short letter.
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A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:52pm |
re: #407 FurryOldGuyJeans
I always knew the Yakima Indians were a creepy bunch, but Mt. Rainier and Mt. St. Helens are secret underground UFO bases?
Someone needs to take up glue sniffing as hobby.
| 448 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:57pm |
re: #429 nyc redneck
He’s a conniver, a playa, who uses his book learning to dazzle the incurious.Elitist sleight of hand bs.
| 449 |
n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:15pm |
re: #429 nyc redneck
for some one who is touted as a genius, a lightworker, and a messiah,
he should be some what “well spoken”.
the incessant uh, uh, uh’s and the stuttering and stammering, just to put a simple sentence together, tends o show me he ain’t that bright.
Same old same old, Dems are the smartest people in the world,Republicans are so dumb.
When some one pulls this tired line on me,I just say”you keep voting for the people who tellyou how smart they are,maybe they will give you a bigger allowance”.
| 450 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:16pm |
re: #415 BlueCanuck
Don’t forget if you are talking to a moonbat that believes that tripe, pretend to answer your cell phone and look at them furtively. Keep doing this and they will eventually leave you alone. Some of these moonbats are skeered of the evil tracking systems embedded in cell phones. Even when turned off they can track you and listen to your conversations. :p
/I know a store where you aren’t allowed to have an active cell phone in it. Guy is nuts, but he does have good stock of geek supplies.
You mean, like, open your cell phone and have a conversation?
Hello?
Right. Can’t talk right now, I’m with somebody.
No.
No.
I don’t think so.
OK. You know where to meet me, right?
Sure.
I’m doing that now.
Later. I’ll have details.
*click*
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Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:17pm |
re: #430 avanti
Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .
If it’s not government bailout money, then it’s none of our business.
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lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:26pm |
re: #431 Walter L. Newton
There were a lot of projects in your facility. It was a demonstration site. Don’t blame me, I don’t work for the DOE any more. Talk to your manager (er, captain, er, what ever, I don’t do mil jargon).
:)
We don’t actually fall under the Federal Center’s jurisdiction for most things, including utilities, security, and building maintenance.
When something breaks, we tell the facility manager, who calls someone in Utah, who then hires a local firm to come and fix it.
Or not.
We went without phone service for 3 months, once.
| 453 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:31pm |
re: #444 jamgarr
Linky?
I have pictures at home, from some turbojet or turbofan, although not quite a standard one.
| 454 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:52pm |
re: #442 chicagodudewhotrades
WTF is state senator Ricky Hendon going off about?
He is a screaming , freaking idiot.
| 455 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:55pm |
re: #436 lobo91
Thanks. Change! Bwahahahahahahahahaha!
| 456 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:08pm |
re: #443 karmic_inquisitor
Wrong. Aliens live among us.
Gee, why don’t you just take the big leap and link someone to David Ickes’ site?
| 457 |
Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:22pm |
Suckers, all the cool lizards are based in Deep 13
| 458 |
BBev Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:26pm |
re: #410 Walter L. Newton
The last real job I had, for 13 years, for the National Renewable Energy Lab here in Golden, I did write a complete system that kept track of clean energy projects that were being installed in federal facilities. The government agency was FEMP (Federal Energy Management Program) and I developed an application that tracked projects in all federal facilities, the energy savings, cost, project out savings, all sorts of metrics.
So, it’s possible, with my background and all this Obama giving away money and the green mania, somewhere in there is something for me to do.
I’m 56, white, single, male. Probably not.
Did you by chance work other states governments say Massachusetts?
| 459 |
avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:26pm |
re: #428 FurryOldGuyJeans
I got it from the constant inference that he could not get in with his grades or only got in on a quota.
| 460 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:37pm |
re: #446 taxfreekiller
Of some note on Obama.
He does not need a big brain of his own it being he is the terminus of the Borg collective brain.
They Borg will be beaming down soon to assimilate us. Resistance is futile.
| 461 |
JacksonTn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:53pm |
re: #340 FurryOldGuyJeans
I would go so far as to say that it wasn’t even friends that got the man into Harvard. It was out and out a quota appointment.
The Leader of the Free World’s Poetry again …(sorry I just love to read this) …
UNDERGROUND
Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.
| 462 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:55pm |
re: #430 avanti
Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .
So now O says Capitalism is bad.
Never heard that from a dyed-in-the-wool Socialist before. /s
| 463 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:18pm |
| 464 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:28pm |
re: #443 karmic_inquisitor
Wrong. Aliens live among us.
They’re not aliens, they are undocumented citizens. Oh wait, you meant….
| 465 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:42pm |
re: #452 lobo91
We don’t actually fall under the Federal Center’s jurisdiction for most things, including utilities, security, and building maintenance. When something breaks, we tell the facility manager, who calls someone in Utah, who then hires a local firm to come and fix it. Or not. We went without phone service for 3 months, once.
Oh, you’re in that secret base at the Fed Center, why didn’t you tell me (full circle).
;)
| 466 |
n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:49pm |
re: #435 opnion
” Obama by his own admission was a poor high school student.
He had bad grades & spent his time drunk”
WOW, appearanly ,I too could be President.
| 467 |
jamgarr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:51pm |
re: #453 Kosh’s Shadow
I have pictures at home, from some turbojet or turbofan, although not quite a standard one.
I did not know that. I’ll check into it on the interweb sometime.
/I’m still special!
| 468 |
Ceemack Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:56pm |
re: #247 Bloodnok
I don’t like seeing Jean-Claude Kerry being compared to Lurch.
It’s not fair to the memory of Ted Cassidy.
| 469 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:22:11pm |
re: #442 chicagodudewhotrades
WTF is state senator Ricky Hendon going off about?
If it were me, it would be “How can a grown man allow himself to be called Ricky, unless he has a big drum? HOW?”
| 470 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:22:52pm |
re: #456 Walter L. Newton
Gee, why don’t you just take the big leap and link someone to David Ickes’ site?
He is a co-conspirator. False flag operation. CIA. Freemasons. 33rd Parallel.
| 471 |
Silhouette Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:22:55pm |
Q: What were Barack Obama’s grades in college?
A: Barack Obama has not released transcripts for his grades from Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law. He has also not released his SAT and LSAT scores.
No explanation has been offered for not releasing them.
Per the Wall Street Journal September 11, 2008, “Obama’s Lost Years,” Obama graduated from Columbia University (to which he transferred after his first two years at Occidental College in California), with a degree in Political Science without honors, so had a GPA less than a 3.3.
His roomate Sohale Siddiqi indicated Obama itially felt alienated, felt “very lost,” and used drugs to get high, which could have led to low grades initially. The roomate indicates that he then turned serious and “stopped getting high.” Obama transferred to Columbia because he was concerned with urban issues.
Based on his overall undergraduate GPA of less than a 3.3, Mr. Obama’s admission to Harvard Law School may reflect:
1) affirmative action statutes,
2) hypothetical higher grades later, and/or
3) other factors.
At Harvard Law School, Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, which, according to the Havard Law School website, is awarded to the top 10% of Harvard Law School students.
| 472 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:22:55pm |
re: #450 jwb7605
Perfect. Having listened to conspiracy radio I find that messing with a fringer like that is so much fun.
| 473 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:08pm |
God help us, some IL State Senator is now sobbing at the podium.
| 474 |
lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:19pm |
re: #465 Walter L. Newton
Oh, you’re in that secret base at the Fed Center, why didn’t you tell me (full circle).
;)
LOL!
I’m in the decrepit 50 year old 2 story brick building at the far northeast corner of the Fed Center, that was supposed to have been torn down and replaced 5 years ago.
| 475 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:36pm |
re: #459 avanti
Then how do you explain JF Kerry, and W? Neither were great students,both got into and graduated from Yale. W has been decried as a village idiot by libs.
| 476 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:38pm |
re: #466 n in wi
” Obama by his own admission was a poor high school student.
He had bad grades & spent his time drunk”
WOW, appearanly ,I too could be President.
I am qualified!
| 477 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:39pm |
re: #430 avanti
Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .
Can you show me Constitutional authority for government interfering with private contracts? Bonuses are part of a private contract.
If a financial institution is going to lose money and and out bonuses it’s the province of the shareholders, board, and customers. If any of those parties have been wronged they have redress in the courts.
If we want to talk about irresponsibility let’s talk about $800 Billion for a stimulus package based on principals which are proven failures.
| 478 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:40pm |
re: #451 Soona’
If it’s not government bailout money, then it’s none of our business.
If that company got a nickel of MY money, it IS my business.
| 479 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:24:00pm |
re: #461 JacksonTn
The Leader of the Free World’s Poetry again …(sorry I just love to read this) …
UNDERGROUND
Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.
He’s a Vogon? Where’s the nearest airlock?
| 480 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:24:24pm |
re: #459 avanti
I got it from the constant inference that he could not get in with his grades or only got in on a quota.
That still is a WRONG inference, dip. Try actually reading and UNDERSTANDING what people write, instead of using your Obama Decoder Ring to assume what people mean.
And for the record I do NOT have donkey ears.
| 481 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:13pm |
re: #473 opnion
God help us, some IL State Senator is now sobbing at the podium.
Is it a woman? Then that could be Blagohair’s sister.
| 482 |
n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:19pm |
re: #451 Soona’
If it’s not our bailout money, then it’s none of our business
| 483 |
Silhouette Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:20pm |
re: #473 opnion
God help us, some IL State Senator is now sobbing at the podium.
Tell me it is a man, please. Women don’t need any more crying women politicians.
| 484 |
kcladderman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:21pm |
re: #430 avanti
Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .
From the article.
“There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses,” Obama said. “Now is not that time.”
WTF
| 485 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:29pm |
re: #475 vagabond trader
Then how do you explain JF Kerry, and W? Neither were great students,both got into and graduated from Yale. W has been decried as a village idiot by libs.
It has long been “well known” that GW Bush’s daddy and the “old boy network” are responsible for everything he’s ever accomplished, and that Daddy even MADE the USAF make GW a fighter pilot.
/
| 486 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:34pm |
I don’t care what Barack Obama’s grades were in college or Law school.
His willingness to extend an open hand to terrorists tells me he isn’t smart enough to be President
| 487 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:43pm |
re: #458 BBev
Did you by chance work other states governments say Massachusetts?
No, National Renewable Energy Lab is federal, set up by (big groan here from Lizards) Jimmah Carter, 31 years ago. It’s the ONLY lab in the DOE system that is actually dedicated to energy and not military projects.
And they research alternative energy sources, have about a thousand employees, managed by Midwest Industries out of Kansas. About 200 support personal and the rest of the 1000 are scientists.
Yes, they have actually made a lot of progress in the science. Now, and the research is passed along basically free to industry. Of course, big problem is certain industries don’t want the technology, it would get in the way of their big oil friends.
| 488 |
chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:44pm |
Great, couple minutes ago, we had state sen. Hendon yelling about something I couldn’t figure out, now we have a different state sen. (Frank Watson-R) crying?
| 489 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:51pm |
re: #479 Kosh’s Shadow
He’s a Vogon? Where’s the nearest airlock?
Let me find a towel. I’m going with you.
| 490 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:26:45pm |
re: #471 Silhouette
One must ask “How can perfection be graded?” to understand why he has never released his grades.
Clearly, he does not want to embarrass his professors who may not have realized they were in the presence of perfection.
That he is so considerate is all part of his perfection.
/Obama in the highest. Amen.
| 491 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:26:56pm |
| 492 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:08pm |
re: #475 vagabond trader
Then how do you explain JF Kerry, and W? Neither were great students,both got into and graduated from Yale. W has been decried as a village idiot by libs.
Well all conservatives are brain dead morons by their standards. It doesn’t matter what a conservative does or how intelligently it’s done, it will always be idiotic. I think that they are projecting myself.
| 493 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:32pm |
re: #478 OldLineTexan
If that company got a nickel of MY money, it IS my business.
Correct as a customer, shareholder, board member it is your business.
That the problem as soon as the bailout money goes into a companies coffers it becomes the governments business. And that is the beginnings of socialism.
| 494 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:34pm |
re: #486 Shug
I don’t care what Barack Obama’s grades were in college or Law school.
His willingness to extend an open hand to terrorists tells me he isn’t smart enough to be President
He may very well be smart, but doing what you described shows he is utterly lacking in wisdom and common sense.
| 495 |
n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:36pm |
| 496 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:38pm |
re: #488 chicagodudewhotrades
Great, couple minutes ago, we had state sen. Hendon yelling about something I couldn’t figure out, now we have a different state sen. (Frank Watson-R) crying?
These people are embarassing.
| 497 |
Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:51pm |
re: #410 Walter L. Newton
The last real job I had, for 13 years, for the National Renewable Energy Lab here in Golden, I did write a complete system that kept track of clean energy projects that were being installed in federal facilities. The government agency was FEMP (Federal Energy Management Program) and I developed an application that tracked projects in all federal facilities, the energy savings, cost, project out savings, all sorts of metrics.
So, it’s possible, with my background and all this Obama giving away money and the green mania, somewhere in there is something for me to do.
I’m 56, white, single, male. Probably not.
In another few years you’ll probably qualify for the government’s euthanasia program.
| 498 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:09pm |
re: #474 lobo91
LOL!
I’m in the decrepit 50 year old 2 story brick building at the far northeast corner of the Fed Center, that was supposed to have been torn down and replaced 5 years ago.
You know, I keep trying to make only vague references to things over there, where you are at, you know, keep the chatter down, and you keep just spelling it out in black and white. If I have some spook knock on my door, with your dog tags in hand, I’m bolting.
:)
| 499 |
Dustyvet Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:11pm |
| 500 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:29pm |
re: #489 OldLineTexan
Let me find a towel. I’m going with you.
Move aside……….aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
| 501 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:32pm |
re: #494 FurryOldGuyJeans
He may very well be smart, but doing what you described shows he is utterly lacking in wisdom and common sense.
Or he really , really likes the other side.
| 502 |
n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:35pm |
re: #483 Silhouette
Tell me it is a man, please. Women don’t need any more crying women politicians.
And a crying man would be better how?
| 503 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:37pm |
re: #430 avanti
In principal. I do have a problem with his phony outrage given that he voted for that crappy TARP scam which had zip in the way of oversite. Plenty of his crooked friends received undeserved bonuses too. Do Franklin Reines and the Countrywide crook, cannot recall the name, ring a bell? No slack from me. None.
| 504 |
Ceemack Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:39pm |
re: #436 lobo91
That’s exactly what they’re planning. It’s a reduction in federal tax withholding that will total up to $500 per single person or $1000 for married couples over the course of the year.
They’re gonna cut withholding?
I was expecting an extra $500 in my refund next year, and was running over my mental wish list to see what I’d buy with the extra $500. A Colt 1991 was leading the pack.
But an extra $20 every paycheck? I won’t even notice.
| 505 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:44pm |
re: #477 jcm
Can you show me Constitutional authority for government interfering with private contracts? Bonuses are part of a private contract.
If a financial institution is going to lose money and and out bonuses it’s the province of the shareholders, board, and customers. If any of those parties have been wronged they have redress in the courts.
If we want to talk about irresponsibility let’s talk about $800 Billion for a stimulus package based on principals which are proven failures.
It’s right next to the Constitutional authority to decide who is a “qualified borrower” and then force private companies to use the decision when investing their money.
Silly.
If you stick your nose in the Fed trough, you get Fed interference.
| 506 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:47pm |
re: #491 opnion
Nah, a guy.
Well, it must be overwhelming to be a part of the first ever IL politician’s impeachment proceeding.
| 507 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:19pm |
re: #497 Soona’
In another few years you’ll probably qualify for the government’s euthanasia program.
Does that pay?
| 508 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:33pm |
re: #496 opnion
These people are embarassing.
Corrupt AND sob-sisters.
And I thought WA politicians were a sad bunch.
| 509 |
kcladderman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:36pm |
re: #475 vagabond trader
Then how do you explain JF Kerry, and W? Neither were great students,both got into and graduated from Yale. W has been decried as a village idiot by libs.
Well to be fair avanti while quite Giddy with Obama never suffered from BDS.
| 510 |
avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:37pm |
re: #462 FurryOldGuyJeans
So now O says Capitalism is bad.
Never heard that from a dyed-in-the-wool Socialist before. /s
I guess we have a different definition of socialism. When a company is losing money and laying off workers, I think it’s morally wrong to pay the CEO’s millions in bonuses to reward their failure. I’m not saying the government should control it, but just that it’s a bad business practice, especially if we’ll be asked to bail them out later.
I will go so far as to say that if they accept government funding it should be contingent on bonus regulation.
| 511 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:57pm |
re: #492 BlueCanuck
Best one recently. A lib lawyer told me to lay off the koolaide. lmao.
| 512 |
wahabicorridor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:30:03pm |
Great. California residents get screwed again.
This April, a mandate from the California Air Resources Board (CARB) called the Enhanced Vapor Recovery Program (EVRP) will go into effect. The idea behind the program is to get next-generation clean nozzles and equipment installed at fuel pumps in the state in order to control emissions. Sounds like a good thing, right? The environment wins becasue ground-level ozone should be reduced and people win, too.
What’s the problem? These new cleaner gas stations aren’t cheap, and “dozens, and potentially hundreds” of gas stations in California might close down instead to upgrade. In other words, in this case, going green means going out of business. According to the Pasadena Star-News, the South Coast Air Quality Management District has heard from 76 refueling sites (of about 4,500 total in its area) that will shut down because of the high costs of the EVRP. CARB responds by saying that gas prices will go up by about 0.68 cents a gallon to cover the cost of upgrading.
h/t Instapundit
| 513 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:30:29pm |
re: #501 opnion
Or he really , really likes the other side.
Liking one’s enemies is not the wise thing to do.
| 514 |
newsjunkie_ky Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:30:52pm |
Hey, if you haven’t seen the video of the warm reception President and Mrs. Bush got at the Baylor Women’s B’ball game in Waco, view it. It’s up at HotAir. Look at his face during the Star Spangled Banner. What I get from the look is, ‘I took care of this Country and not look what 0 has done in a week to destroy the good I did’. It’s like he fears for the Country.
| 515 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:30:57pm |
re: #499 Dustyvet
Prisoners’ escape foiled by folly
damn handcuffs!
Kiwis……yay, we have really bright crims down here!
| 516 |
lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:01pm |
re: #498 Walter L. Newton
You know, I keep trying to make only vague references to things over there, where you are at, you know, keep the chatter down, and you keep just spelling it out in black and white. If I have some spook knock on my door, with your dog tags in hand, I’m bolting.
:)
We’re hardly a secret. Got a big sign and everything. In fact, if you come to the front gate at the Fed Center, off of Kipling, there’s a big electronic message board that tells people who want to join our unit where to call.
| 517 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:20pm |
re: #508 FurryOldGuyJeans
Corrupt AND sob-sisters.
And I thought WA politicians were a sad bunch.
Damn straight! Capone never cried.
| 518 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:22pm |
I’m-a-hopin’ tonight’s going to be a quiet one, because it’s been what feels like a hope-less day. Hey Barry, could you send me a couple of tall cool bottles of hope?
| 519 |
Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:26pm |
re: #264 opnion
Right, Obama has never really had to strive, it has always been there from him. He is President of the Harvard Law Review, yet he does not submit even one article?
Um, please! You can think what you want about Obama, but to say he never had to work is just ridiculous. You may not respect the work he did, or think it’s good or necessary work, but you don’t get to be president without knowing how to work. At least, how to work a reception line. ;^)
Seriously, this meme that O was handed everything on a silver platter is just silly. And he was Editor of the HLR, not “president”. An editor edits. Other people submit articles to him. Plenty of work, as this old editor/translator knows all too well. Harder than writing, in some ways. You have to make silk purses out of sow’s ears all the time - whipping other people’s poorly worded thoughts into some semblance of coherency.
Just sayin’.
| 520 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:40pm |
re: #493 jcm
Correct as a customer, shareholder, board member it is your business.
That the problem as soon as the bailout money goes into a companies coffers it becomes the governments business. And that is the beginnings of socialism.
100% agreed. There should be NO taxpayer money going to that company unless it is buying NEEDED products and services.
| 521 |
n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:44pm |
| 522 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:32:07pm |
re: #510 avanti
Interfering in PRIVATE business is Socialism. You might actually try LEARNING something the media and Obama don’t or won’t teach you.
| 524 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:32:43pm |
re: #513 FurryOldGuyJeans
Liking one’s enemies is not the wise thing to do.
Hard to oppose people that you like. Understanding your enemy is only valuable to know how to defeat them.
| 525 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:04pm |
re: #510 avanti
I guess we have a different definition of socialism. When a company is losing money and laying off workers, I think it’s morally wrong to pay the CEO’s millions in bonuses to reward their failure. I’m not saying the government should control it, but just that it’s a bad business practice, especially if we’ll be asked to bail them out later.
I will go so far as to say that if they accept government funding it should be contingent on bonus regulation.
You just defined socialism, “if they accept government funding.” To hell with bonus regulation, no one should be offering them money in the first place.
No, I don’t think you get it. Your statement above is the clearest indication of that. So much of what you have posted at LGF has been vague and circular and you avoid questions and answers, but you just cleared thing up for us all.
| 526 |
jorline Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:04pm |
re: #430 avanti
Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .
I don’t think it’s any of the governments business, nor the President’s…Provided the company’s not on the government teat! If the President/CEO and the Board of Directors make poor decisions let the stockholders terminate them.
This is the main reason I don’t like Obama’s vision for business…I don’t want the government what to do with my company or how much I make.
I learned a long time ago….don’t shoot the goose that lays the golden egg!
EGG THREAD…………………………….
| 527 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:17pm |
re: #519 Cato the Elder
Yes, and he wrote 2 memoirs before he actually did any of that so called work.
| 528 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:29pm |
re: #485 OldLineTexan
and that Daddy even MADE the USAF make GW a fighter pilot.
I have a totally genuine, incredibly authentic memo right here that proves it!
/
| 529 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:36pm |
re: #507 Walter L. Newton
Does that pay?
The medications are free, but you have to provide your own transportation.
| 530 |
BBev Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:57pm |
re: #487 Walter L. Newton
I hear that, I have a cousin that built the first electric car to cross the country and that was back in the early 70’s and I know what happen to the patent.
| 531 |
lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:03pm |
re: #504 Ceemack
They’re gonna cut withholding?
I was expecting an extra $500 in my refund next year, and was running over my mental wish list to see what I’d buy with the extra $500. A Colt 1991 was leading the pack.
But an extra $20 every paycheck? I won’t even notice.
That’s my understanding of the plan.
And you’re right, divided up that way it’s so small that most people won’t even notice it. If they give me a check for $1000, I might go buy something with it.
| 532 |
Silhouette Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:10pm |
re: #502 n in wi
And a crying man would be better how?
Just that a crying woman is used, by some, to paint all women as too emotional for leadership.
A crying man is treated as just representing himself.
| 533 |
avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:20pm |
re: #471 Silhouette
Q: What were Barack Obama’s grades in college?
Snip
At Harvard Law School, Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, which, according to the Havard Law School website, is awarded to the top 10% of Harvard Law School students.
Don’t know,don’t care, the top 10% is interesting, but proves nothing either. McCain graduated near the bottom of his class, but is sharp enough for me and neither tells us much about how they’d serve as POTUS.
| 534 |
Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:21pm |
| 535 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:34pm |
re: #525 Walter L. Newton
You just defined socialism, “if they accept government funding.” To hell with bonus regulation, no one should be offering them money in the first place.
No, I don’t think you get it. Your statement above is the clearest indication of that. So much of what you have posted at LGF has been vague and circular and you avoid questions and answers, but you just cleared thing up for us all.
bingo
| 536 |
SFGoth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:36pm |
Any sites keeping track of Obama buyer’s remorse?
Anyone got a site where we can thank George W. Bush for initiating the socialist destruction of America?
| 537 |
newsjunkie_ky Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:55pm |
re: #514 newsjunkie_ky
Hey, if you haven’t seen the video of the warm reception President and Mrs. Bush got at the Baylor Women’s B’ball game in Waco, view it. It’s up at HotAir. Look at his face during the Star Spangled Banner. What I get from the look is, ‘I took care of this Country and not look what 0 has done in a week to destroy the good I did’. It’s like he fears for the Country.
| 538 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:56pm |
re: #516 lobo91
We’re hardly a secret. Got a big sign and everything. In fact, if you come to the front gate at the Fed Center, off of Kipling, there’s a big electronic message board that tells people who want to join our unit where to call.
I’m too old, and I am not a reserve. And civilian jobs over there?
| 539 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:35:15pm |
re: #528 Occasional Reader
I have a totally genuine, incredibly authentic memo right here that proves it!
/
Hey, this memo is printed on Official “Hannah Montana” stationary. It MUST be REAL!
/Dan Rather, Mary Mapes
| 540 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:35:16pm |
Blowfish testicles prepared by unlicensed chef send 7 to Japanese hospital with poisoning
Blowfish testicles prepared by an unauthorized chef sickened seven diners in northern Japan and three remained hospitalized Tuesday after eating the poisonous delicacy.
The owner of the restaurant in Tsuruoka city, who is also the chef, had no license to serve blowfish and was being questioned on suspicion of professional negligence, police official Yoshihito Iwase said.
| 541 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:35:28pm |
re: #525 Walter L. Newton
You just defined socialism, “if they accept government funding.” To hell with bonus regulation, no one should be offering them money in the first place.
No, I don’t think you get it. Your statement above is the clearest indication of that. So much of what you have posted at LGF has been vague and circular and you avoid questions and answers, but you just cleared thing up for us all.
The real sticker in all this kerfuffle about exec bonuses and such is that the first go-around with the bailouts there WERE provisions that dictated exactly what could and couldn’t be done with any monies provided. That was put in by House AND Senate Republicans. The approved bills contained NO provisions as to how the monies were to be used. Want to guess who removed those provisions?
| 542 |
Wyatt Earp Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:04pm |
re: #536 SFGoth
Any sites keeping track of Obama buyer’s remorse?
Anyone got a site where we can thank George W. Bush for initiating the socialist destruction of America?
Can’t really blame Bush for all of this. The voters put Obama into office, not Bush.
| 543 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:06pm |
re: #519 Cato the Elder
And he was Editor of the HLR, not “president”. An editor edits. Other people submit articles to him.
It’s unusual - not unheard of, but unusual - that a law review’s Editor in Chief would not himself/herself publish a “note” (as they’re usually called).
| 544 |
jorline Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:13pm |
re: #526 jorline
PIMF…I don’t want the government telling me what to do with my company or how much I make.
| 545 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:15pm |
re: #540 Killgore Trout
Blowfish testicles prepared by unlicensed chef send 7 to Japanese hospital with poisoning
good thing I ate the Hootie instead
| 546 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:32pm |
re: #533 avanti
Don’t know,don’t care, the top 10% is interesting, but proves nothing either. McCain graduated near the bottom of his class, but is sharp enough for me and neither tells us much about how they’d serve as POTUS.
That’s right, facts are given to you and you don’t care.
| 547 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:59pm |
they’re getting ready to vote on the Blago impeachment
| 548 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:10pm |
re: #536 SFGoth
I read an article that more than a few Independents are angry about the pork roast. Call your senators, call the WH, let them know we are aware of the subversive nature of their 800+ page mandate.
| 549 |
NYCHardhat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:20pm |
I don’t want to sound like a pessimist, but the news just sounds worse and worse ever since the dough-nut hole took office.
| 550 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:30pm |
OK, now we’re getting somewhere. They’re about ready to vote on impeachment and disqualification (2 separate votes).
| 551 |
SFGoth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:31pm |
re: #542 Wyatt Earp
Can’t really blame Bush for all of this. The voters put Obama into office, not Bush.
Really? Obama signed off on the original stimulus package? I realize he was getting carried away as President Elect, but really … . No, Bush precipitated this; Obama’s just grinning ear to ear.
| 552 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:31pm |
re: #535 Shug
bingo
I really dun thin’ Avanti gets it. It’s so fooking simple.
(practicing an Irish accent for the fun of it)
| 553 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:55pm |
re: #520 OldLineTexan
There should be NO taxpayer money going to that company unless it is buying NEEDED products and services.
Which begs raises the question: Who defines “needed”? Aye, there’s the rub.
| 554 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:04pm |
re: #519 Cato the Elder
Um, please! You can think what you want about Obama, but to say he never had to work is just ridiculous. You may not respect the work he did, or think it’s good or necessary work, but you don’t get to be president without knowing how to work. At least, how to work a reception line. ;^)
Seriously, this meme that O was handed everything on a silver platter is just silly. And he was Editor of the HLR, not “president”. An editor edits. Other people submit articles to him. Plenty of work, as this old editor/translator knows all too well. Harder than writing, in some ways. You have to make silk purses out of sow’s ears all the time - whipping other people’s poorly worded thoughts into some semblance of coherency.
Just sayin’.
You saw a different bio than I did. I saw him listed as ‘President” of Law Review. But let’s say that he was the Editor, he would still submit an article.
He himself descibed himself as an inferior high school student in his first memoir. Bad grades to not an academic scholarship make.
Yes I do believe that he had things handed to him. He is not the brilliant gift to society that his supporters & MSM make him out to be.
| 555 |
chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:10pm |
The IL. Senate speechs are now over. Voting time
| 556 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:13pm |
re: #547 Shug
they’re getting ready to vote on the Blago impeachment
I wonder just how many will vote innocent. They sure might be looking for a new job come election time (if that is soon).
| 557 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:17pm |
First is the vote on impeachment. They’re going to vote yea or nay on impeachment alphabetically.
| 558 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:29pm |
I keep on thinking about the lame excuse for 0bama keeping his thermostat high enough to “grow orchids” because he is “from Hawaii”. Gee, had me fooled, I thought he lived in Chicago for a while lately. Last time I noticed, Chicago had colder weather than DC does. The man is a fraud, pure and simple.
| 559 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:34pm |
re: #540 Killgore Trout
Blowfish testicles prepared by unlicensed chef send 7 to Japanese hospital with poisoning
Why would they send the testicles to a hospital?
| 560 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:35pm |
re: #540 Killgore Trout
Blowfish testicles prepared by unlicensed chef send 7 to Japanese hospital with poisoning
That headline’s wordy. Let’s tighten it up:
BEGINNER BLAMED FOR BAD BLOW BALLS
SEVEN SICK AFTER SLURPING SACK SUSHI
| 561 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:36pm |
re: #556 FurryOldGuyJeans
I wonder just how many will vote innocent. They sure might be looking for a new job come election time (if that is soon).
Can they vote Present ?
| 562 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:37pm |
re: #549 NYCHardhat
What the hell’s your problem with doughnut holes?
Hummmm?
LOL
| 564 |
lobo91 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:02pm |
re: #538 Walter L. Newton
We have 1 civil service civilian job (which is actually about to become vacant), but it’s a mil tech position, which means that you have to also be a member of the Reserves in order to hold it.
Other than that, just a couple of contractors who do some fairly specialized planning stuff for our exercises. Also both retired military.
| 565 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:04pm |
re: #552 Walter L. Newton
I really dun thin’ Avanti gets it. It’s so fooking simple.
(practicing an Irish accent for the fun of it)
Irish? I was guessing Ricky Ricardo…
| 566 |
Achilles Tang Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:17pm |
re: #510 avanti
I guess we have a different definition of socialism. When a company is losing money and laying off workers, I think it’s morally wrong to pay the CEO’s millions in bonuses to reward their failure. I’m not saying the government should control it, but just that it’s a bad business practice, especially if we’ll be asked to bail them out later.
I will go so far as to say that if they accept government funding it should be contingent on bonus regulation.
While we are on that subject, I have always thought it morally wrong for any public company to make political party contributions using anything but the dividends, or shares, of the stockholders who agree in advance.
| 567 |
Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:23pm |
re: #543 Occasional Reader
It’s unusual - not unheard of, but unusual - that a law review’s Editor in Chief would not himself/herself publish a “note” (as they’re usually called).
Quite possible. But then I don’t know for sure that he didn’t - do you? It was asserted above by someone who thinks O “never did any work”, but it’s just that, an assertion. Until I see evidence, it has the weight of any other assertion here.
| 568 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:26pm |
re: #547 Shug
they’re getting ready to vote on the Blago impeachment
The vote is in.
1 AYE, 1 NAY, 285 PRESENT
| 569 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:41pm |
re: #541 FurryOldGuyJeans
The real sticker in all this kerfuffle about exec bonuses and such is that the first go-around with the bailouts there WERE provisions that dictated exactly what could and couldn’t be done with any monies provided. That was put in by House AND Senate Republicans. The approved bills contained NO provisions as to how the monies were to be used. Want to guess who removed those provisions?
Hell, they can’t even tell you where the money is and what it is being used for. Duh. I have to leave in a few minutes, get on the road, and I don’t want to hit the streets raging.
| 570 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:42pm |
re: #551 SFGoth
Really? Obama signed off on the original stimulus package? I realize he was getting carried away as President Elect, but really … . No, Bush precipitated this; Obama’s just grinning ear to ear.
The Democrats started this by insisting lenders loan money to people who could not pay for the houses they bought.
| 571 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:42pm |
re: #295 karmic_inquisitor
It is all here - List of US Underground Bases
Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!
Looks like the salt mines underneath Detroit are safe—for now.
| 572 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:48pm |
re: #558 Shr_Nfr
I keep on thinking about the lame excuse for 0bama keeping his thermostat high enough to “grow orchids” because he is “from Hawaii”. Gee, had me fooled, I thought he lived in Chicago for a while lately. Last time I noticed, Chicago had colder weather than DC does. The man is a fraud, pure and simple.
Careful you don’t run afoul of our Obama booster. He will accuse you of being mean-spirited since you are not in full O Worship mode.
| 573 |
NYCHardhat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:55pm |
re: #562 reloadingisnotahobby
What the hell’s your problem with doughnut holes?
Hummmm?
LOL
I lve them just like I love our CiC.
| 574 |
Amer-I-Can Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:56pm |
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.— Robert A. Heinlein, The Cat Who Walks Through Walls
That is one of my favorite Heinlein quotes… kind of reminds me of my kids….
| 575 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:57pm |
Blago Votes
Guilty
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
the trend here looks pretty bad for Blago
| 576 |
unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:00pm |
Looks like all Yes’s for Blogo’s impeachment.
| 579 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:20pm |
re: #558 Shr_Nfr
I keep on thinking about the lame excuse for 0bama keeping his thermostat high enough to “grow orchids” because he is “from Hawaii”. Gee, had me fooled, I thought he lived in Chicago for a while lately. Last time I noticed, Chicago had colder weather than DC does. The man is a fraud, pure and simple.
A very clever and smart fraud, though.
| 581 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:29pm |
re: #552 Walter L. Newton
Here’s one for you….
Potty-trained parrot
| 582 |
jamgarr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:29pm |
Get your balls right here
I have not had the training
Takes balls for the balls
| 583 |
Wyatt Earp Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:57pm |
re: #551 SFGoth
Really? Obama signed off on the original stimulus package? I realize he was getting carried away as President Elect, but really … . No, Bush precipitated this; Obama’s just grinning ear to ear.
So it is ALL Bush’s fault? You sure you don’t mean Karl Rove?
Of course Bush has some blame. So does the Pelosi’s Congress and Obama. Laying it all at GWB’s feet is weak.
| 584 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:58pm |
Is the far right column a “NV” and does it mean “Not Voting”?
| 586 |
gregg Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:04pm |
This is what Dodd and Frank will look like in a couple of years as they break out of prison:
| 587 |
n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:09pm |
re: #532 Silhouette
Just that a crying woman is used, by some, to paint all women as too emotional for leadership.
A crying man is treated as just representing himself.
I guess Hillary didn’t get the memo before New Hampshire primary.
| 588 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:10pm |
re: #551 SFGoth
Somehow, the excessive lending and poor mortgage quality FNM and FRE were not part of Bush’s agenda. I lay that one at the foot of the purple dinosaur Barney. In case people have not noticed, the Congress has had a Democratic majority for 2 years now.
| 589 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:11pm |
re: #558 Shr_Nfr
He’s from wherever it is expedient to be from,just like the rest of his personal history. Smoke and bs.
| 591 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:56pm |
| 592 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:58pm |
re: #568 OldLineTexan
LOL!
I think!
What are the odds the little shit slips thru and stays?
| 593 |
jorline Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:58pm |
re: #558 Shr_Nfr
I keep on thinking about the lame excuse for 0bama keeping his thermostat high enough to “grow orchids” because he is “from Hawaii”. Gee, had me fooled, I thought he lived in Chicago for a while lately. Last time I noticed, Chicago had colder weather than DC does. The man is a fraud, pure and simple.
Agree.
I moved from Utah to south Texas a long time ago. It didn’t take but two years to acclimate to the new temps. Now anything below 50 is freezing…lol
| 594 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:00pm |
re: #584 MandyManners
Is the far right column a “NV” and does it mean “Not Voting”?
keeps going down with each vote.
must mean Not yet voted
| 595 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:19pm |
Or, it means “Not Voted” as in “yet.
Convicted.
| 596 |
avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:26pm |
re: #526 jorline
I don’t think it’s any of the governments business, nor the President’s…Provided the company’s not on the government teat! If the President/CEO and the Board of Directors make poor decisions let the stockholders terminate them.
Then we only agree on one of the issues. I think the President has the right to speak out against big bonuses when the company is not doing well and you do not. We did just that when the Big 3 flew in on their private jets. The government should not regulate it unless they are as you say on the “teat”.
| 597 |
unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:26pm |
Obama probably would have voted “Present”?
| 598 |
SFGoth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:28pm |
re: #570 MandyManners
The Democrats started this by insisting lenders loan money to people who could not pay for the houses they bought.
And I’ll come right back to the Decider. The Decider decided to chuck his free market principles out in order to save the economy. Reagan would’ve signed off on this? No, he’d have said, you can go back to renting. Bush could’ve said, “Read my lips, no new stimulus”. He didn’t. Of course, if he had had the ability to articulate the problem on tv, it would’ve helped.
| 599 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:28pm |
re: #578 taxfreekiller
Some walk point in the economic system, some just slag around off the left overs the guy walking point digs up, but rather than take a chance themselves, these slags use back shooting creepy Obama’s to steal the money from the guys walking point.
lots of chicken shit sob’s around this America place
Adjust the meds, TFK, your afternoon comment is a little cryptic. I normally agree with most everything you say, but it’s hard to get behind you if you’re talking like Lewis Carroll. Try again.
| 600 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:36pm |
re: #577 chicagodudewhotrades
Not a single “no” vote yet…….
I thought that Rickie Hendon might support Blago, but even he voted yes.
| 602 |
A Kiwi Infidel Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:05pm |
re: #540 Killgore Trout
Blowfish testicles prepared by unlicensed chef send 7 to Japanese hospital with poisoning
Bloody Japanese, they will rey to eat anything. How the heck do you reach a point where you know how to dress and prepare a fish, that would normally be considered toxic, to a point where you can eat the thing. Must be an evolution thing.
| 603 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:20pm |
re: #597 unrealizedviewpoint
Obama probably would have voted “Present”?
No. That would have implicated him!
| 604 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:20pm |
re: #588 Shr_Nfr
I’ll never forget that baboon troupe grinning ear to ear as they hustled the first crap sandwich through congress.
| 605 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:22pm |
re: #592 reloadingisnotahobby
LOL!
I think!
What are the odds the little shit slips thru and stays?
Joking aside, zero.
Getting caught is the ultimate sin.
| 606 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:35pm |
re: #499 Dustyvet
Prisoners’ escape foiled by folly
damn handcuffs!
[Video]
Man finds worst place to make a drug deal
A 24-year-old man was arrested Wednesday morning for allegedly attempting to sell Oxycodone and other drugs.Sounds mundane, until you hear that he was caught trying to make the deal inside a men’s room stall at the Everett Police Department.
| 611 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:48pm |
| 612 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:51pm |
Kitten Fail
| 613 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:00pm |
They all sound like “yea” was a hard decision to make.
| 614 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:02pm |
re: #600 opnion
I thought that Rickie Hendon might support Blago, but even he voted yes.
Being reelected trump party unity, it seems.
| 618 |
The Shadow Do Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:28pm |
Will no one stand up for Blogo?
I for one, was moved by his speech this morning….
Not (best Borat voice)
| 620 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:34pm |
re: #581 Killgore Trout
Here’s one for you….
Potty-trained parrot
Video keeps locking up, I’m using Safari, don’t know, most videos work fine on here, there are a few times a video will shut the browser down.
| 621 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:37pm |
re: #602 A Kiwi Infidel
The Japanese are very odd people.
| 622 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:39pm |
re: #590 MandyManners
Wow. They are fed up with Blagojavich.
It means that the crooks that make up the Illinois political class see this as a way to cleanse themselves. A sort of purification ritual. They will be back to their shakedown politics tomorrow.
| 624 |
unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:58pm |
| 625 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:04pm |
Next up is the disqualification from holding state office ever again.
| 626 |
BlueCanuck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:08pm |
re: #612 Killgore Trout
That’s going to leave a mark.
| 628 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:16pm |
re: #617 chicagodudewhotrades
59-0. say hello to Gov. Quinn
Quinn is a clean politician, right?
/necessary?
| 629 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:18pm |
re: #611 opnion
Yup, but all of the Dem’s sucked uo to Obama.
And you find that in anyway unusual? I don’t. The Man is The Messiah-King, The One.
| 630 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:19pm |
re: #579 Walter L. Newton
An eloquent fraud who dances around the facts like Bill Clinton did with his “Is Is” stuff. I must admit that whoever packaged him knew what they were doing. I have never seen such a dense vacuum in all my days.
| 631 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:26pm |
re: #520 OldLineTexan
100% agreed. There should be NO taxpayer money going to that company unless it is buying NEEDED products and services.
Bingo!
| 632 |
jorline Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:26pm |
re: #451 Soona’
If it’s not government bailout money, then it’s none of our business.
Agree, Soona.
The bailouts are opening Pandora’s Box…goodbye business as we knew it.
| 633 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:40pm |
Blagos out. The Verdict’s in
You’ll not see nothing from the Mighty quinn
| 634 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:40pm |
Cast off all my care and woe,
here I go, singin’ low,
Bye, bye, Bla. Go.
*Doot doot doot doot DOO doo doo do doo doo*
| 636 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:54pm |
re: #567 Cato the Elder
Quite possible. But then I don’t know for sure that he didn’t - do you? It was asserted above by someone who thinks O “never did any work”, but it’s just that, an assertion. Until I see evidence, it has the weight of any other assertion here.
Well, here’s an article from Politico.
| 637 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:55pm |
re: #620 Walter L. Newton
I get the same thing with FireFox sometimes. Try IE, it’s a lousy browser but it’s pretty good with videos.
| 638 |
avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:05pm |
re: #535 Shug
bingo
Walter, accepting government funding does lean toward socialism, but I did not start that trend, nor did Obama. In a perfect world, GW and others would not have done it, but the jury is still out on rather it was needed.
| 640 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:12pm |
re: #622 karmic_inquisitor
It means that the crooks that make up the Illinois political class see this as a way to cleanse themselves. A sort of purification ritual. They will be back to their shakedown politics tomorrow.
They can now point to Blagohair as doing all the cleaning needed and back to business as usual.
| 641 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:16pm |
How long before MSNBC gives Blago his own show?
| 642 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:17pm |
re: #624 unrealizedviewpoint
Geraldo Rivera
Stand up jerry, let em see ya
oh God love ya, you are standing up
| 643 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:21pm |
A bit quiet in the senate chamber as they certify the vote.
| 644 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:24pm |
re: #622 karmic_inquisitor
It means that the crooks that make up the Illinois political class see this as a way to cleanse themselves. A sort of purification ritual. They will be back to their shakedown politics tomorrow.
Tigers and stripes.
| 645 |
Empire1 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:31pm |
Think he’s going to be barred from holding state office ever again?
| 647 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:15pm |
re: #645 Empire1
Think he’s going to be barred from holding state office ever again?
He could run for the Mayor of Detroit or Washington DC
| 648 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:26pm |
re: #645 Empire1
Think he’s going to be barred from holding state office ever again?
Maybe. This one might have some yeas and nays.
| 649 |
Wyatt Earp Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:35pm |
| 650 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:45pm |
re: #645 Empire1
Think he’s going to be barred from holding state office ever again?
We’ll have to wait and see.
| 652 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:54pm |
re: #643 Honorary Yooper
They’re hoping Blag doesn’t start blurting out inconvenient truths.
| 653 |
eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:14pm |
re: #602 A Kiwi Infidel
Bloody Japanese, they will rey to eat anything. How the heck do you reach a point where you know how to dress and prepare a fish, that would normally be considered toxic, to a point where you can eat the thing. Must be an evolution thing.
Heh…..those who don’t succeed, don’t procreate ;~)
| 654 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:17pm |
re: #641 gclaghorn
How long before MSNBC gives Blago his own show?
The way Fox is going I would say there instead of MSNBC. The audience is 3 for the latter.
| 655 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:26pm |
re: #645 Empire1
Think he’s going to be barred from holding state office ever again?
I wouldn’t vote for him to be dog catcher.
| 656 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:44pm |
| 657 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:47pm |
re: #652 vagabond trader
They’re hoping Blag doesn’t start blurting out inconvenient truths.
I wish he would.
| 658 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:49pm |
re: #647 Shug
He could run for the Mayor of Detroit or Washington DC
If convicted in the federal court system, he could only hold the Washington, DC mayoralship. Detroit forbids convicts from holding public office.
/Yes, it is strange to some, but true, which is why Kwame could not remain as mayor.
| 659 |
NYCHardhat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:06pm |
| 660 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:10pm |
Blago has dirt on everybody.
You know people are sweating if he really really starts to sing
He better watch his back.
There are plenty of powerful people who would like to see him “silenced”
| 661 |
nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:23pm |
re: #615 Honorary Yooper
59 to 0, Blago is no longer governor.
he is going to chain himself to his desk.
| 662 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:26pm |
When will he be forced out of the mansion?
| 663 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:28pm |
re: #622 karmic_inquisitor
Yep…They sacrificed the dumb ass for being so arogant to think he couldn’t be caught!
| 664 |
SFGoth Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:33pm |
re: #588 Shr_Nfr
Somehow, the excessive lending and poor mortgage quality FNM and FRE were not part of Bush’s agenda. I lay that one at the foot of the purple dinosaur Barney. In case people have not noticed, the Congress has had a Democratic majority for 2 years now.
The market crash is irrelevant (well, I don’t mean that in an absolute sense) — because it did not cause us to hop on the 1277 express to Socialism. (Obligatory obscure Blue Oyster Cult reference ;-> ) Don’t confuse cause with motivation. Bush enabled the Dems to pay homage to FDR by not standing up to the Christmas tree approach to fixing the fundamentals on the economy. In fact, the first time in his presidency that the Republicans in Congress do a testicular cancer check (ohmygod, we do have balls!), he takes the Left’s side and gives the Dems cover — hey, if an archconservative like BUSH is in favor of a bailout … . WTF? When he hung the few no-pork GOPers out to dry, it became a question of not how big, but how fucking enormous this thing gets. No, it comes right back to Bush.
| 665 |
eschew_obfuscation Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:44pm |
re: #620 Walter L. Newton
Video keeps locking up, I’m using Safari, don’t know, most videos work fine on here, there are a few times a video will shut the browser down.
I have a number of problems with Safari. It’s great for this site, but video gives me problems too and every now and then, it just locks up and won’t do anything….. and you can’t view graphic properties…..bitch, bitch, bitch…
| 668 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:23pm |
BBIAW - got to go fix a senior citizens install of OFFICE. Aren’t I a nice guy?
| 669 |
jorline Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:35pm |
re: #596 avanti
Then we only agree on one of the issues. I think the President has the right to speak out against big bonuses when the company is not doing well and you do not. We did just that when the Big 3 flew in on their private jets. The government should not regulate it unless they are as you say on the “teat”.
That where we differ period, Avanti. I wanted to see the Big 3 file bankruptcy like everyone else…force them to reorganize. I own a small business, no one will bail me out. The government can’t even run their own business.
Who do you work for Avanti?
If you’re a business owner…shame on you!
| 670 |
TedStriker Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:44pm |
re: #234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Aw, yeah! Iowahawk’s done it again.
“The tawny kitten writhes before the white snake.”
Mulleti
LMAO!
| 671 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:46pm |
re: #660 Shug
Blago has dirt on everybody.
You know people are sweating if he really really starts to sing
He better watch his back.
There are plenty of powerful people who would like to see him “silenced”
If Fitz puts him in the witness protection program, then I’ll change my mind about Fitz’s motives.
If Blago meets with an unfortunate incident/accident, then I won’t.
| 672 |
LGoPs Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:47pm |
re: #320 Miss Molly
Maybe it is just me but I don’t believe that Obama is as “smart” as he would like everyone to believe. He got into Harvard because he was sponsered by “friends”. I don’t think he wrote an article for the Harvard Law Review because he doesn’t have the ability and it would be way to obvious that he doesn’t have that intellectual ability. He has always skated by on charm and the race card. I just don’t see any “great mind” of Obama.
One thing I’m sure he has in abundance is a zealous, self-righteous belief in his leftist agenda…….and leftists are known to execute their beliefs ruthlessly and with total disregard to the harm they do. That zealotry, without the staying hand of a strong intellect, can be a scary combination. Like you say, I see no evidence of a towering intellect. I see a guy who’s gotten by with the inestimable assistance of many other, powerful fellow travelers.
| 674 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:57pm |
From the WSJ on the porkfest:
“Reed Detchon, a Republican former energy official in President George H.W. Bush’s administration, said one item on Rebuilding America’s agenda is to boost spending for state energy grants. The House version of the stimulus bill would provide $3.4 billion for such grants, but the Senate version cuts the amount to $500 million. “It’s a very disappointing number,” Mr. Detchon said.”
Personally, I am not disappointed in the least. They should cut it by another $500 million. The states should not be in the business of buying or selling power and Unka should be either.
| 675 |
nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:05pm |
re: #660 Shug
Blago has dirt on everybody.
You know people are sweating if he really really starts to sing
He better watch his back.
There are plenty of powerful people who would like to see him “silenced”
he won’t go down alone,
he is going to bring as many people w/ him as he can.
| 676 |
Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:06pm |
re: #636 Occasional Reader
Well, here’s an article from Politico.
OK. It says he did write an article. Apparently not a brilliant one, but…
It’s almost 6 P.M. here, guys, and I’ve gotta go. As someone said above, being on LGF really cuts into one’s reading time. ;^)
Watch out for the bat-people and the chem trails, everyone.
| 677 |
Kragar Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:14pm |
Massive Epic Failure inbound.
Senior manager has decided to scrap the system we’ve spent the last 4 years perfecting in favor of a new system because “Thats the way we’re going to do things now”.
Yeah, thats going to work in an IT environment.
| 678 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:20pm |
re: #661 nyc redneck
hehis hair is going to chainhimselfitself to his desk.
| 679 |
Wyatt Earp Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:25pm |
re: #673 Iron Fist
You forgot his “enthusiastic” drug use. It can be a real chore, scaring up a couple of eight-balls of cocaine for Friday night, and you have to be real careful if you are freebasing. You can set yourself on fire if you’re not careful…
Paging Richard Pryor …
| 680 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:26pm |
Next they’re asking the question again to make sure it is sustained.
| 681 |
Silhouette Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:34pm |
re: #617 chicagodudewhotrades
59-0. say hello to Gov. Quinn
When Quinn the governor gets here, everybody’s gonna jump for joy.
| 684 |
gclaghorn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:52:30pm |
Damn! Wikipedia page for Blago already updated.
| 686 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:02pm |
re: #629 FurryOldGuyJeans
And you find that in anyway unusual? I don’t. The Man is The Messiah-King, The One.
And Brilliant! That historian from New Orleans said that he was the smartest President ever, but he had no idea what his IQ is.
| 687 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:02pm |
re: #639 Iron Fist
In MA, even private sales require paperwork.
| 688 |
avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:11pm |
| 690 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:37pm |
It is sustained and confirmed. Welcome Governor Pat Quinn as of 4:52pm CST. Now it’s the question of whethere Blago be disqualified from ever holding state office ever again.
| 691 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:54pm |
Now voting to keep him out of politics forever.
| 692 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:06pm |
Last update - 00:08 30/01/2009
U.S. envoy to UN calls on Israel to investigate Gaza war crimes claims
[Link: www.haaretz.com…]
Susan Rice. Remember that name.
| 693 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:10pm |
| 694 |
unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:24pm |
re: #682 MandyManners
His Wiki page already has been edited.
Milorad “Rod” R. Blagojevich (pronounced /bləˈgɔɪəvɪtʃ/ Blagojevich.ogg listen (help·info), born December 10, 1956) was the 40th Governor of the U.S. State of Illinois, from 2003 to 2009. He was impeached on January 14, 2009, convicted & removed from office on January 29, 2009 by unanimous vote in the Illinois State Senate due to corruption and misconduct in office. He previously represented parts of Chicago in the U.S. Congress, and was elected governor in 2002 and is a member of the Democratic Party.
Mention of party within first paragraph. Good Wiki.
| 695 |
Silhouette Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:25pm |
re: #680 Honorary Yooper
Next they’re asking the question again to make sure it is sustained.
Who is running this, Microsoft?
Do you want to delete?
Are you sure?
Are you REALLY sure?
| 696 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:27pm |
re: #675 nyc redneck
he won’t go down alone,
he is going to bring as many people w/ him as he can.
Thus his desperation to subpoena witnesses, and everybody else’s determination to make sure he doesn’t.
| 697 |
n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:37pm |
I’ll miss ole Blago’s stories and quaint little fables.
He’s kinda an uncle Blago to me. The cowboy stories,the caring for the under privileged,the Mandela comparisons.
Too much BDS
Blago Derangement Syndrome.
| 698 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:40pm |
He won’t even be able to serve on a school board.
| 699 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:40pm |
re: #662 MandyManners
When will he be forced out of the mansion?
The mansion is already packed up, but they were almost never there.
Thay stayed in Chicago & he took a state plane to work.
| 700 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:57pm |
re: #547 Shug
they’re getting ready to vote on the Blago impeachment
Crooked politics in Chicago? I’m shocked, NOT!
| 701 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:13pm |
re: #558 Shr_Nfr
I keep on thinking about the lame excuse for 0bama keeping his thermostat high enough to “grow orchids” because he is “from Hawaii”. Gee, had me fooled, I thought he lived in Chicago for a while lately. Last time I noticed, Chicago had colder weather than DC does. The man is a fraud, pure and simple.
“We can’t keep our thermostat turned to 72 all the time because, you know, other countries don’t like that.” — El Uno
Maybe he was talking about keeping the AC at 72 during the summer?
| 703 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:26pm |
| 704 |
Wyatt Earp Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:27pm |
re: #690 Honorary Yooper
It is sustained and confirmed. Welcome Governor Pat Quinn as of 4:52pm CST. Now it’s the question of whethere Blago be disqualified from ever holding state office ever again.
His hair is running for POTUS in 2012.
| 705 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:30pm |
| 706 |
MrMisanthrope Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:34pm |
Roll Call Vote - initially 57 “Blagojevich Him!”, 2 “abstentions”, but those two recanted at the last second and made it unanimous…
| 708 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:48pm |
| 709 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:54pm |
re: #699 opnion
The mansion is already packed up, but they were almost never there.
Thay stayed in Chicago & he took a state plane to work.
Already packed? On whose orders?
| 710 |
Empire1 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:01pm |
re: #655 MandyManners
I wouldn’t vote for him to be dog catcher.
Neither would I — but I’m pretty far from Illinois, so I can’t even venture a guess what those folks would do.
| 711 |
Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:02pm |
re: #554 opnion
You saw a different bio than I did. I saw him listed as ‘President” of Law Review. But let’s say that he was the Editor, he would still submit an article.
He himself descibed himself as an inferior high school student in his first memoir. Bad grades to not an academic scholarship make.
Yes I do believe that he had things handed to him. He is not the brilliant gift to society that his supporters & MSM make him out to be.
Before I live, I stand corrected - you are right, the title is “president”. I believe the job itself is that of an editor, though. But I got it wrong.
| 712 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:11pm |
re: #702 MandyManners
What’s next? The criminal prosecution?
Yup, but Fitz is still building his case.
| 713 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:19pm |
| 714 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:21pm |
re: #706 MrMisanthrope
Roll Call Vote - initially 57 “Blagojevich Him!”, 2 “abstentions”, but those two recanted at the last second and made it unanimous…
Voted while rubbing the arms that got twisted I’ll bet.
| 715 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:24pm |
re: #679 Wyatt Earp
Was that in Obama’s Pryor life? I continue to find it odd that a drug using mediocre student at Occidental can transfer into Columbia without somebody pulling some strings and preferences someplace. Not to pull a Berg, but there still seems to be some ‘splaing to do about this man’s life that has yet to happen.
| 716 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:37pm |
00:52 Israel expects sale of drones to Turkey to go through (Haaretz)
Why sell weapons to an enemy?
| 718 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:51pm |
| 719 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:53pm |
re: #676 Cato the Elder
OK. It says he did write an article.
Not an article, a case comment. That’s the basic, anonymous “in the trenches” work that one does in one’s first year on a law review. If he hadn’t done THAT, he should have been booted off the Law Review.
An article (or, as they’re usually called when a student does them (as opposed to an outside law professor, a “note”), is different. It’s a significantly lengthier, more intensive review of a legal issue. Like I said, it’s not unheard of that the Editor-in-Chief (or President, as it’s apparently called at Harvard) doesn’t publish one, but it’s kind of unusual.
| 720 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:26pm |
| 721 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:33pm |
re: #716 Nevergiveup
00:52 Israel expects sale of drones to Turkey to go through (Haaretz)
Why sell weapons to an enemy?
Relative to the other neighbors, Turkey gets along with Israel.
| 722 |
avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:36pm |
| 723 |
J.S. Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:40pm |
lol…someone (instead of saying, “yes”) replied “Absolutely!” It’s unanimous…no one wanted blago to stay on…
| 724 |
Wyatt Earp Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:50pm |
re: #715 Shr_Nfr
Was that in Obama’s Pryor life? I continue to find it odd that a drug using mediocre student at Occidental can transfer into Columbia without somebody pulling some strings and preferences someplace. Not to pull a Berg, but there still seems to be some ‘splaing to do about this man’s life that has yet to happen.
Maybe he has some liberal domestic terrorist friends that can help him out?
| 725 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:53pm |
OK, time to go home, but I will listen to the vote to bar Blagojevich from holding any state office again.
| 726 |
MrMisanthrope Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:01pm |
re: #696 reine.de.tout
Thus his desperation to subpoena witnesses, and everybody else’s determination to make sure he doesn’t.
He’s better get Fitz’s “protection” quick before Da Emperor makes him go bye bye…
| 727 |
Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:05pm |
re: #559 Walter L. Newton
Why would they send the testicles to a hospital?
Blowfish testicles flexing their authority.
| 728 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:08pm |
re: #710 Empire1
Neither would I — but I’m pretty far from Illinois, so I can’t even venture a guess what those folks would do.
I reckon they’re fairly sensible outside of Chicago.
| 730 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:24pm |
re: #715 Shr_Nfr
Heh, we don’t even know how many siblings he has. Most peculiar.
| 731 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:24pm |
re: #721 karmic_inquisitor
Relative to the other neighbors, Turkey gets along with Israel.
Hell I wouldn’t sell weapons to most of my relatives!
| 732 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:37pm |
| 734 |
Wyatt Earp Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:40pm |
re: #727 Soona’
Blowfish testicles flexing their authority.
They better have insurance! I’m not paying for someone else’s poisonous balls!
| 735 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:59:04pm |
re: #710 Empire1
Neither would I — but I’m pretty far from Illinois, so I can’t even venture a guess what those folks would do.
Somebody first elected Obama.
| 737 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:59:39pm |
re: #497 Soona’
In another few years you’ll probably qualify for the government’s euthanasia program.
Soylent green is Walter.
| 738 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:59:54pm |
Gotta go - taking some middle school kids to visit wounded/recovering Marines at Balboa Hospital.
| 739 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:59:59pm |
re: #709 MandyManners
Already packed? On whose orders?
Don’t know, but they were reporting that on WLS radio this morning.
It could have been Blago, the family stays in Chicago anyway.
They were also saying that signs bearing the Governors name on the Illinois Tollway will be taken down immediately. That will probably happen after rush hour.
| 740 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:03pm |
They voted already and disqualified him from ever holding public office in Illinois.
| 741 |
Joan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:04pm |
re: #722 avanti
I think it was the wrong link, I’m sorry. Me and links don’t get along. I’ll go back an relocate that freaking report…I almost fell over when I read that number, it CANNOT be right. It just stuns me, the brass nuts brazen power grab that represents, it is sinister.
| 742 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:04pm |
re: #711 Cato the Elder
It is expected of all members of any Law Review to publish at least one paper during their tenure. I do not care which school of law you are talking about. To be the titular head of one and not publish is basically unheard of.
| 743 |
Dustyvet Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:05pm |
| 744 |
chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:07pm |
re: #716 Nevergiveup
Actually, the countries two armed forces work together on some things. A lot of joint exercises.
| 745 |
karmic_inquisitor Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:22pm |
| 748 |
USBeast Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:27pm |
Ah, the sweet smell of Illinois politics. I remember when the Chicago graveyard vote put Kennedy in the White House. Those were the days…
| 749 |
MandyManners Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:29pm |
Heading out to eat early. Have a good evening, Lizards.
| 750 |
Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:33pm |
re: #716 Nevergiveup
00:52 Israel expects sale of drones to Turkey to go through (Haaretz)
Why sell weapons to an enemy?
Maybe they know something that the rest of us don’t know.
| 751 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:34pm |
African foreign ministers demand UN Gaza probe
[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]
Because in Africa human rights are our specialty?
| 752 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:53pm |
re: #739 opnion
Don’t know, but they were reporting that on WLS radio this morning.
It could have been Blago, the family stays in Chicago anyway.
They were also saying that signs bearing the Governors name on the Illinois Tollway will be taken down immediately. That will probably happen after rush hour.
Even if it did occur during rush hour, few would complain. They’d honk and wave and applaud the effort.
| 753 |
NYCHardhat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:54pm |
| 754 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:57pm |
I wonder if this is how it went when the nodroG Was removed by Stinky Beaumont?
| 755 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:07pm |
re: #677 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Massive Epic Failure inbound.
Senior manager has decided to scrap the system we’ve spent the last 4 years perfecting in favor of a new system because “Thats the way we’re going to do things now”.
Yeah, thats going to work in an IT environment.
True story (I have to explain this to recruiters regarding why I have no professional experience on *nix):
17 years ago, I installed a Novell (3.x) LAN for our division, set the system up, gave everybody appropriate priveleges. Included a mail server, etc.
A few years later, Novell went to a Linux based setup, so I put in a purchase order for the upgrade.
That got canceled, because the parent company decreed that all corporate software would be Windows.
They also forced us to go with the “corporate” database, Baan. The parent company didn’t understand Baan was a shell program that used Oracle. The parent made us use the Windows port of Baan, which was buggy beyond belief.
I was given zero rights to the Oracle database, but I needed to store engineering test result data. So I installed a copy of MySQL, because it was reliable and free for internal-only use.
The parent company got wind of that, and demanded we switch over to MSSQL, the windows product.
The division I worked for was “leveraged” into the larger division in California. The original parent sold the whole division to another company.
I didn’t move.
| 756 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:09pm |
re: #740 Honorary Yooper
They voted already and disqualified him from ever holding public office in Illinois.
He’ll just join the Mob; same difference.
| 757 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:21pm |
re: #749 MandyManners
Heading out to eat early. Have a good evening, Lizards.
enjoy a nice ice cold Sprite
| 758 |
n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:21pm |
re: #743 Dustyvet
Vote just in he can no longer hold office in Illinois
Can’t vote til he’s dead either.
| 759 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:23pm |
re: #720 MandyManners
Must be some up-tight folks.
If anything “Chicagoland” happens to Blago, it won’t be an accident.
| 760 |
unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:24pm |
Blago just said that “absolutely” is not really a Yes. And wants a new vote.
/
| 762 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:58pm |
re: #744 chicagodudewhotrades
Actually, the countries two armed forces work together on some things. A lot of joint exercises.
Yeah I’m well aware of that. But things are changing in Turkey. I hope those drones have internal self destructs.
| 763 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:59pm |
re: #733 jcm
IL Lizards what’s the skinny on Pat Quinn?
He’s the great-grandson of the legendary Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman.
His hobbies are floss-weaving and performing tracheotomies. He is married and had three children, two of which he has officially acknowledged as his heirs before Parliament. He has inhaled, but never blown it back out.
| 764 |
Dustyvet Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:13pm |
re: #756 Kosh’s Shadow
He’ll just join the Mob; same difference.
He’ll sleep with the fishies…ummm sea kittens sorry…:)
| 766 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:25pm |
| 768 |
avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:52pm |
re: #741 Joan
I think it was the wrong link, I’m sorry. Me and links don’t get along. I’ll go back an relocate that freaking report…I almost fell over when I read that number, it CANNOT be right. It just stuns me, the brass nuts brazen power grab that represents, it is sinister.
Joan, that’s why I wanted the link. I know a few billion is going to HUD for home renovation and ACORN could bid for some of it, but I didn’t see any direct money to ACORN.
| 769 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:56pm |
re: #733 jcm
IL Lizards what’s the skinny on Pat Quinn?
Quinn is generally considered to be anathema to the Machine. They don’t much care for him as he is a true maverick in Illinois politics. He tends to ignore the Machine and does what he feels to be right. Blago chose him as Lt Gov as a safeguard against being removed. Obviously, it backfired.
| 770 |
vagabond trader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:58pm |
re: #751 Nevergiveup
Oh that is rich and I’ll not say what I am thinking.
| 771 |
nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:59pm |
re: #719 Occasional Reader
Not an article, a case comment. That’s the basic, anonymous “in the trenches” work that one does in one’s first year on a law review. If he hadn’t done THAT, he should have been booted off the Law Review.
An article (or, as they’re usually called when a student does them (as opposed to an outside law professor, a “note”), is different. It’s a significantly lengthier, more intensive review of a legal issue. Like I said, it’s not unheard of that the Editor-in-Chief (or President, as it’s apparently called at Harvard) doesn’t publish one, but it’s kind of unusual.
actually, i think o is also a lazy, get-by-with-the least-kind of effort slacker.
he should have been thrilled to write an article for the law review.
i don’t think he had the confidence, ability or inspiration to do it.
| 772 |
The Shadow Do Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:08pm |
re: #743 Dustyvet
Vote just in he can no longer hold office in Illinois
He’s probably welcome next door in Michigan. That would be fun.
| 773 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:16pm |
re: #711 Cato the Elder
Before I live, I stand corrected - you are right, the title is “president”. I believe the job itself is that of an editor, though. But I got it wrong.
No problem.
| 774 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:17pm |
| 775 |
LGoPs Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:21pm |
re: #740 Honorary Yooper
They voted already and disqualified him from ever holding public office in Illinois.
With the present, deteriorating state of our electorate’s standards and judement, he might still have a good shot at the White House. All you need to do is get the media onboard and they’ll get the voters to believe anything….
/////// There are not enough slashes on my keyboard to properly express my contempt…….
| 776 |
unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:24pm |
re: #754 Shug
I wonder if this is how it went when the nodroG Was removed by Stinky Beaumont?
Who votes? Stinky & Charles? Or do Monitor’s get a vote too?
| 777 |
Dustyvet Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:27pm |
| 778 |
Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:30pm |
| 779 |
JacksonTn Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:42pm |
re: #756 Kosh’s Shadow
He’ll just join the Mob; same difference.
Everything relates to “The Godfather” or “Doctor Zhivago” these days …
Blago - don’t do it …we need you …start singing …
The Godfather II ..
Frank Pentangeli: Those were the great old days,you know… And we was like the Roman Empire… The Corleone family was like the Roman Empire…
Tom Hagen: When a plot against the Emperor failed… the plotters were always given a chance… to let their families keep their fortunes. Right?
Frank Pentangeli: Yeah, but only the rich guys, Tom. The little guys got knocked off and all their estates went to the Emperors. Unless they went home and killed themselves, then nothing happened. And the families… the families were taken care of.
Tom Hagen: That was a good break. A nice deal.
Frank Pentangeli: Yeah… They went home… and sat in a hot bath… opened up their veins… and bled to death… and sometimes they had a little party before they did it.
| 780 |
bulwrk Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:55pm |
| 781 |
Lee Coller Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:03pm |
Too bad that NY senate seat isn’t still open.
| 782 |
Joan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:22pm |
re: #675 nyc redneck
he won’t go down alone,
he is going to bring as many people w/ him as he can.
Oh I hope, hope, hope this guy sings like a canary. Chicago is full of dirty rat bastards
| 784 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:38pm |
Another interesting video of Hamas in combat…..
Israeli forces Vs Palestinians
The video starts with two shot gunmen. One runs away, the second is rescued by an ambulance. Notice: no uniforms. His buddies try to retrieve their weapons. At least one “journalist” is embedded with the guys trying to get the guns.
| 785 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:43pm |
re: #763 OldLineTexan
He’s the great-grandson of the legendary Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman.
His hobbies are floss-weaving and performing tracheotomies. He is married and had three children, two of which he has officially acknowledged as his heirs before Parliament. He has inhaled, but never blown it back out.
ROFL!
| 786 |
opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:50pm |
re: #742 Shr_Nfr
It is expected of all members of any Law Review to publish at least one paper during their tenure. I do not care which school of law you are talking about. To be the titular head of one and not publish is basically unheard of.
You are exactly right. So either Barry was lazy or he wrote something so poorly or radical that it is conveniently unavailable.
| 787 |
chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:51pm |
re: #762 Nevergiveup
I agree on that, but Turkey has been pretty quiet lately. has AKP been doing something worrying?
| 788 |
Empire1 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:05:04pm |
Just heard on Fox that the vote to bar Blago from holding any further office in Illinois was also unanimous. YAY!
| 789 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:05:15pm |
re: #774 Occasional Reader
Are you calling Walter a “cracker”?
RACIST!
That would be a cracker cracker.
| 791 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:05:36pm |
re: #769 Honorary Yooper
Quinn is generally considered to be anathema to the Machine. They don’t much care for him as he is a true maverick in Illinois politics. He tends to ignore the Machine and does what he feels to be right. Blago chose him as Lt Gov as a safeguard against being removed. Obviously, it backfired.
A glimmer of hope in IL politics!
| 792 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:05:59pm |
re: #781 Lee Coller
Too bad that NY senate seat isn’t still open.
Schumer has been lookin’ ill, ain’t he lookin’ ill to youse, Tony?
/Chicago politics
| 793 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:06:16pm |
re: #787 chicagodudewhotrades
I agree on that, but Turkey has been pretty quiet lately. has AKP been doing something worrying?
Their Prime Minister has been spewing some pretty anti-Israel venom.
| 794 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:06:36pm |
re: #788 Empire1
Just heard on Fox that the vote to bar Blago from holding any further office in Illinois was also unanimous. YAY!
Hey, Blago here to tell you about an amazing product!
…
…
Remember, you can’t buy this in stores! But if you call now, our operators are standing by …
| 795 |
Soona' Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:07:22pm |
re: #761 Iron Fist
That sucks. Here you can buy with cash money and not even exchange much more than “How much is it?” and “Will you take $X for it?” with the cops setting right there and it is 100% legal. The cops won’t even ask to see anyone’s drivers license at a gun show. If you were doing the deal in the parking lot of Wall Mart, it’s still legal, but a cop might run your license to make sure there were no outstanding warrants on you (I’ve had that happen once).
Same here in Oklahoma.
| 796 |
The Shadow Do Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:07:26pm |
re: #771 nyc redneck
i think o is also a lazy, get-by-with-the least-kind of effort slacker
My gut hunch as well. In fact I see nothing on his resume that says anything else. Ambitious, you bet. Industrious, no way.
| 798 |
Bobblehead Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:07:47pm |
re: #234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Aw, yeah! Iowahawk’s done it again.
“The man who builds his well at a distance soon laments when his wife’s mustache catches fire.”
Khazhak
LOL
| 799 |
chicagodudewhotrades Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:08:16pm |
damn, I’ll miss Gov. blago reciting poetry…….
| 800 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:08:26pm |
re: #791 jcm
A glimmer of hope in IL politics!
A maverick in IL is still a steaming turd as far as I’m concerned, just a bit less smelly.
| 801 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:08:31pm |
“It is shameful,” Obama said at the White House. “And part of what we’re going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility.” (AP)
Kinda like you did for your inauguration?
| 802 |
NYCHardhat Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:09:37pm |
re: #801 Nevergiveup
“It is shameful,” Obama said at the White House. “And part of what we’re going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility.” (AP)
Kinda like you did for your inauguration?
Everytime I hear him speak or read his quotes, my head hurts.
| 804 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:10:07pm |
re: #798 Bobblehead
“The man who builds his well at a distance soon laments when his wife’s mustache catches fire.”
Khazhak
LOL
If you want to know a man, walk a mile in his moccasins. That way, if you change your mind, you’re one mile ahead of him with his shoes.
/Illini proverb
| 805 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:10:35pm |
re: #796 The Shadow Do
My gut hunch as well. In fact I see nothing on his resume that says anything else. Ambitious, you bet. Industrious, no way.
Watch out, lest you run afoul of our resident Obama booster. He will accuse you of being mean-spirited because you are obviously not in full O Worship mode.
“How DARE you have an opinion of Our Messiah-King that is not totally complimentary!”
| 806 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:10:40pm |
re: #761 Iron Fist
Yeah it does, but MA is moonbat east as you know. Billy Weld (of unprintable memory) started a lot of stuff that was less than wise. To transport a firearm you need a Firearms ID if its a long gun and a License to Carry if its a short gun. License to carry comes in 2 flavors, large magazine and short magazine. All in state transfers are registered and any gun you import from out of state is supposed to be also. Mine is large magazine, but it can get very insane and capricious since things are administered by the town police chief. Get some moonbat in there and they can cause a lot of trouble. Soon coming to a country near you.
| 807 |
Dustyvet Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:11:30pm |
re: #794 jwb7605
Hey, Blago here to tell you about an amazing product!
…
…
Remember, you can’t buy this in stores! But if you call now, our operators are standing by …
New and improved Blago in a can! …
| 808 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:11:35pm |
re: #801 Nevergiveup
“It is shameful,” Obama said at the White House. “And part of what we’re going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility.” (AP)
Kinda like you did for your inauguration?
PUUULEEEZE! The One is not bound to mortal ethics. He’s the Messiah-King!
| 809 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:11:36pm |
OT:
I had the “Innocent Gitmo” thread open, and some guy calling himself “desdicado” has a post worth reading. I updinged him.
| 810 |
Empire1 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:11:57pm |
re: #802 NYCHardhat
Everytime I hear him speak or read his quotes, my head hurts.
Yours isn’t the only one!
| 811 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:12:40pm |
re: #799 chicagodudewhotrades
damn, I’ll miss Gov. blago reciting poetry…….
Blagohair’s recitations of poetry made me pine for some Vogon poetry readings.
| 812 |
ArmyWife Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:12:59pm |
re: #798 Bobblehead
“Do not waste your time talking to the yak. Because yakkity yak don’t talk back.”
Mongolian
This is going in my next ppt deck on employee engagement.
| 813 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:01pm |
A big women’s basketball game between No. 2 Oklahoma and No. 4 Baylor just gained added prestige.
Former President George W. Bush and wife Laura attended Wednesday’s game. The two entered several minutes before the opening tip, flanking Lady Bears coach Kim Mulkey, and received a prolonged standing ovation from the fans at the Ferrell Center. The group was engulfed by photographers and camera crews at the Oklahoma bench.
[Link: www.dallasnews.com…]
Go for it Mr. President.
| 814 |
Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:04pm |
re: #798 Bobblehead
“The man who builds his well at a distance soon laments when his wife’s mustache catches fire.”
Khazhak
LOL
“Give a man a fish, he will eat today. Promise a man a million fish, he will contribute heap big wampum to your tribal election campaign fund.”
Iroquois
| 815 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:18pm |
re: #797 Iron Fist
Me too. McCain ran the weakest campaign I could think of.
| 816 |
The Shadow Do Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:38pm |
re: #801 Nevergiveup
“It is shameful,” Obama said at the White House. “And part of what we’re going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility.” (AP)
Kinda like you did for your inauguration?
And I suppose poor Chris and Barney were steamrolled by those mean, nasty and dastardly wall street types…Real troopers for truth those two
///
| 817 |
jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:43pm |
re: #806 Shr_Nfr
Yeah it does, but MA is moonbat east as you know. Billy Weld (of unprintable memory) started a lot of stuff that was less than wise. To transport a firearm you need a Firearms ID if its a long gun and a License to Carry if its a short gun. License to carry comes in 2 flavors, large magazine and short magazine. All in state transfers are registered and any gun you import from out of state is supposed to be also. Mine is large magazine, but it can get very insane and capricious since things are administered by the town police chief. Get some moonbat in there and they can cause a lot of trouble. Soon coming to a country near you.
When need some Equal Protection Clause suits on shit like this. They might not overtly be infringing but by onerous, obscure and obtuse regulation achieve a defacto infringement.
| 818 |
kcladderman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:14:29pm |
| 819 |
calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:14:48pm |
re: #685 J.S.
Well, looks like Blago’s toast…
Next—Blago II—the Criminal Trial.
That’s when BHO and Rham Emanuel will have to give testimony. That’ll be fun.
| 820 |
Inquisitive Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:14:51pm |
Out with the Old….and in with the New…..no more Gov. Blagohair in IL….
| 821 |
Pietr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:14:59pm |
Is Zombie around? I ask, because I’ve gotten a disturbing report from a grand nephew, on the missus side. He was called up with his guard unit to work the security for the Inauguration. He said there was a bus load of BO supporters who came by and they were calling the troops “Fascist Army Pigs” and spitting at them. I wondered if he or anyone else got similar feedback.
Now I thought the GWB “Heyhey Goodbye” was low class-but to treat the guys/gals who protect us (and who were there to protect them, as well as BO) like this, on Jan 20TH, is the LOWEST of low class. Bubba’s time was called the trailer trash years by some-but even he and Hilarious’s supporters weren’t this vile, IMHO…….
| 822 |
n in wi Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:15:12pm |
| 823 |
The Shadow Do Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:15:28pm |
re: #805 FurryOldGuyJeans
Watch out, lest you run afoul of our resident Obama booster. He will accuse you of being mean-spirited because you are obviously not in full O Worship mode.
“How DARE you have an opinion of Our Messiah-King that is not totally complimentary!”
Forgive me while a fail to swoon, or even tingle, in the presence of his holy image.
| 824 |
Irenike Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:16:17pm |
I probably should’ve added these comments to an earlier thread, but here goes.
My theory is that Obama doesn’t really give a crap whether Iran has nukes. He’ll just flap his gums and pay lip service to getting them to do something differently, but he won’t lift a finger to stop them. In the end, the only thing that matters to him is his own self-image. Liberals never ask “Is this policy actually working in the real world?” They ask: “How do I feel about myself for holding this opinion?” It’s all about their feelings, their perceptions of themselves, their need to be perceived by others as compassionate and a team-player. That’s why Obama is willing to go over there first—before he talks to any other country— and tell a bunch of thugs how much he has in common with them. I believe he really believes he will charm the pants off them, and will be able to succeed where nobody else has, because he comes from a Muslim background and because he is such a messiah in the US media.
I wouldn’t be surprised if under some crazy Marxist logic, Obama secretly thinks a nuclear Iran would be a good thing. It’ll boost their self-esteem. They won’t feel so powerless, so they’ll be nicer. And besides, all countries are morally equivalent, so why not let them have nukes? It’ll make everybody equal. And equality, as we all know, is far more important to liberals than these silly, outmoded notions of “moral” and “immoral.” For Marxists, there is no such thing as right and wrong. There is only those who are “oppressed” (Iran) and those who are “oppressors” (US and Israel).
| 825 |
kcladderman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:16:27pm |
re: #821 Pietr
Is Zombie around? I ask, because I’ve gotten a disturbing report from a grand nephew, on the missus side. He was called up with his guard unit to work the security for the Inauguration. He said there was a bus load of BO supporters who came by and they were calling the troops “Fascist Army Pigs” and spitting at them. I wondered if he or anyone else got similar feedback.
Now I thought the GWB “Heyhey Goodbye” was low class-but to treat the guys/gals who protect us (and who were there to protect them, as well as BO) like this, on Jan 20TH, is the LOWEST of low class. Bubba’s time was called the trailer trash years by some-but even he and Hilarious’s supporters weren’t this vile, IMHO…….
Not hard to believe.
| 826 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:16:39pm |
re: #816 The Shadow Do
And I suppose poor Chris and Barney were steamrolled by those mean, nasty and dastardly wall street types…Real troopers for truth those two
///
The government throws cash, and lots of it, at businesses with NO strings attached, and yet they are confused when those businesses do what they want with the cash instead of what the government wants.
| 827 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:16:46pm |
re: #804 OldLineTexan
If you want to know a man, walk a mile in his moccasins. That way, if you change your mind, you’re one mile ahead of him with his shoes.
/Illini proverb
Reminds me of an old “B.C.” cartoon. One character is walking up to another, saying: “5,278… 5,279… 5,280.” [hands shoes to other] “Here are your moccasins back. I still think you’re a jerk.”
| 828 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:16:51pm |
re: #771 nyc redneck
If it isn’t about him, he lacks inspiration in the general case.
| 829 |
BBev Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:17:01pm |
re: #731 Nevergiveup
Hell I wouldn’t sell weapons to most of my relatives!
Nor would I sell them to my neighbors, I don’t want them to have the same fire power I have.
| 830 |
unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:17:13pm |
| 831 |
ArmyWife Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:18:16pm |
“Every rose has its thorn — made from poison.”
Mulleti
HA! Confession - I know Bret Michaels. I am sending him this as we speak, er type.
| 832 |
Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:18:37pm |
re: #813 Nevergiveup
A big women’s basketball game between No. 2 Oklahoma and No. 4 Baylor just gained added prestige.
Who cares? They’re just dumb, Christianist flyover hicks.
/LLL knee-jerk
| 833 |
Shug Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:18:44pm |
re: #831 ArmyWife
HA! Confession - I know Bret Michaels. I am sending him this as we speak, er type.
Does he wear a rug?
| 834 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:19:14pm |
re: #829 BBev
Nor would I sell them to my neighbors, I don’t want them to have the same fire power I have.
Now that’s a motto to live by!
| 835 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:19:23pm |
re: #823 The Shadow Do
Forgive me while a fail to swoon, or even tingle, in the presence of his holy image.
You needn’t even bother asking for forgiveness, even from me, since I don’t see any reasons. The O booster will just denounce you. Asking for forgiveness will only be seen as a sign of weakness and caving in to the Luminosity that is The One.
| 836 |
The Shadow Do Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:19:56pm |
re: #819 calcajun
Next—Blago II—the Criminal Trial.
That’s when BHO and Rham Emanuel will have to give testimony. That’ll be fun.
Executive privilege redux?
| 837 |
ArmyWife Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:20:49pm |
re: #821 Pietr
There were protests against the Military - I did not witness this, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
| 838 |
Bloodnok Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:20:57pm |
re: #831 ArmyWife
HA! Confession - I know Bret Michaels. I am sending him this as we speak, er type.
Just don’t Talk Dirty To Him
///
| 840 |
callahan23 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:21:16pm |
re: #234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Aw, yeah! Iowahawk’s done it again.
Incredible LOL’s:
“Do not curse the crow who has stolen you chili; tomorrow his rectum will curse the dawn.” Thai
“Do not waste your time talking to the yak. Because yakkity yak don’t talk back.” Mongolian
And of course:
“The loyal dog feasts, but the treacherous cat no can haz cheezburgr.”
Hungarian
Where is the Goddess when cats need defendin’
| 841 |
nyc redneck Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:21:37pm |
re: #805 FurryOldGuyJeans
Watch out, lest you run afoul of our resident Obama booster. He will accuse you of being mean-spirited because you are obviously not in full O Worship mode.
“How DARE you have an opinion of Our Messiah-King that is not totally complimentary!”
LOL,
if he was a gifted intelligent person, we would see the evidence, (grades, awards, accolades, accomplishments) splashed everywhere.
he is NOT being coy by w/holding flattering information abt his brilliance..
there is none. or we would have seen it.
| 842 |
Silhouette Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:00pm |
re: #821 Pietr
Is Zombie around? I ask, because I’ve gotten a disturbing report from a grand nephew, on the missus side. He was called up with his guard unit to work the security for the Inauguration. He said there was a bus load of BO supporters who came by and they were calling the troops “Fascist Army Pigs” and spitting at them. I wondered if he or anyone else got similar feedback.
This doesn’t address treatment of troops, but I can report that a co-worker, a hardcore worshipper at the church of Obama, went to the inauguration. So realize he is not exactly eager to say bad things about the crowd.
When we discussed that Bush was booed, he said that the media was being VERY kind and that it was, in reality, very ugly.
Very.
Ugly.
| 843 |
The Shadow Do Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:07pm |
re: #826 FurryOldGuyJeans
The government throws cash, and lots of it, at businesses with NO strings attached, and yet they are confused when those businesses do what they want with the cash instead of what the government wants.
Oh there will be strings, lots and lots of strings. Its called Socialism.
| 844 |
HoosierHoops Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:16pm |
re: #822 n in wi
1 down,
69456896 to go
start the clock
I can’t upding him..Who goes through 20 months of listening to what Obama says he is going to do if elected and still the dude votes for him. Then 2 weeks into the office of POTUS he expresses buyers remorse about it..
Oh boo hoo hoo!
he had almost 2 years to make an informed decision before voting..
Too late now pal..You can’t take your vote back now.
| 845 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:27pm |
Pakistan’s Partial Crackdown Lets Imams Preach Jihad
A dozen Pakistani policemen stood watch last week outside a Lahore mosque known to be a stronghold of the Lashkar-e-Taiba guerrilla group — while the imam inside preached jihad to thousands of worshippers.
The squad’s presence was part of Pakistan’s vow to curb Lashkar, which India blames for the Nov. 26-29 Mumbai terrorist attack that killed 164 people, and it showed how limited that effort has been. As the officers heard Saifullah Khalid’s sermon blaring over loudspeakers, he demanded more attacks on India.
“Muslims under the leadership of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jamaat ud-Dawa will conquer all South Asia!” Khalid roared. “Nobody can stop us from fighting India!”
Pakistan’s offensive, in response to international pressure to suppress Lashkar and its civilian ally, Jamaat, is halting and partial at best, says Ahmed Rashid, a Lahore-based analyst and author of books on Pakistan and Islamic militancy. Fewer Jamaat leaders have been arrested, and fewer of its schools closed, than the national government claims, according to provincial-level figures.
Because the country’s politically dominant army has cultivated Lashkar and Jamaat to help confront India over the disputed territory of Kashmir, “there is not going to be any sudden U-turn in policy,” Rashid said. “I don’t expect a proper crackdown.”
/never fear, Obama sent Richard Holbrooke here!
| 846 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:35pm |
re: #836 The Shadow Do
Executive privilege redux?
Testifying or not could end up being a tarnish on his escutcheon.
| 847 |
Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:43pm |
re: #817 jcm
You wind up with arguments about compelling state interest vs rational interest. The state has a compelling interest to protect the POTUS. It only has a rational interest to protect me. It makes all the difference in equal protection stuff. But I do get really pissed off at these guys who live in these protected compounds telling me I shouldn’t be able to defend me and mine in my own house. They finally changed the law in MA so that I don’t have to retreat from my own house before I can shoot somebody. Previously I had to. You still have to try and disengage outside your house, but at least one thing has improved.
| 848 |
jwb7605 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:49pm |
re: #822 n in wi
1 down,
69456896 to go
start the clock
I’m going to remember the poster’s nic and give him some slack if he posts on a thread I’m actively monitoring.
That is the first time I’ve seen somebody admit voting for O, and acknowledge the probable error of his ways.
/Besides, he likes Country Western music.
| 849 |
The Shadow Do Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:23:18pm |
re: #835 FurryOldGuyJeans
You needn’t even bother asking for forgiveness, even from me, since I don’t see any reasons. The O booster will just denounce you. Asking for forgiveness will only be seen as a sign of weakness and caving in to the Luminosity that is The One.
May Dumbo ears be upon me.
| 850 |
mean Gene Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:23:36pm |
re: #840 callahan23
Where is the Goddess when cats need defendin’
I found a personal new favorite from real African provers online…..
“Don’t tell the man who is carrying you that he stinks.”
| 851 |
quickredfox Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:23:53pm |
| 852 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:24:34pm |
re: #841 nyc redneck
LOL,
if he was a gifted intelligent person, we would see the evidence, (grades, awards, accolades, accomplishments) splashed everywhere.
he is NOT being coy by w/holding flattering information abt his brilliance..
there is none. or we would have seen it.
The O booster has basically called us liars since we won’t believe his words of how well O did in school. Now you try applying logic and facts to faith in The One. That ain’t cricket! ;)
| 854 |
ArmyWife Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:25:06pm |
re: #833 Shug
I don’t even know how to answer that - I hope you don’t take that as me being snotty, I don’t mean it to be, but I also wouldn’t divulge anything personal about my friends, nor would I give credence to silly rumors.
| 855 |
Nevergiveup Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:25:13pm |
At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan Thursday, Jan. 29, reproached Israeli president Shimon Peres over the Gaza offensive, saying “You kill people,” continuing the abuse he has leveled against Israel in recent weeks.
Israeli president Shimon Peres said, raising his voice, Israel’s 22-day offensive was launched in reaction to eight years of rocket fire. Turning to Erdogan, who had said Israel had made Gaza an “open air prison,” Peres asked: “Why did they fire rockets? There was no siege against Gaza. There was never a day of starvation in Gaza.”
The former Norwegian prime minister, Khell Magne Bondevik, said he had never seen Shimon Peres so passionate. I think he felt Israel was being attacked by so many in the international community. He felt isolated.”
The Turkish premier stalked out of the forum when the moderator, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, cut him short when he tried to reply. He complained Peres had spoken for 25 minutes while he had been allotted only 12 and shouted: “I remember two former prime ministers in your country who said they felt very happy when they were able to enter Palestine on tanks.” He went on to protest the applause Peres had won: “You are applauding killing and war!”
Arab League secretary Amr Mussa said Erdogan’s action in leaving the hall was understandable. Of Israel, he said: “They don’t listen.”
Peres read out passages from the Hamas charter which call for Israel’s destruction. “I want to see what you would do if rockets landed on Istanbul every night. What would you say to the mothers?” he asked the Turkish prime minister. Since 2000, more than a thousand Israelis have been killed in terrorist attacks and more than 5,500 rockets have been dropped on Israel.”
He again raised his voice when he said: “You talk about a non-existent reality and I am telling the truth. Can you understand a million people living in shelters? Are you mad? I cannot accept lies. Mubarak accused Hamas and he knows the situation as well as you, Mr. Erdogan. Hamas fired out of kindergartens and schools. How could we not respond?”
“All Peres said was a lie. It was unacceptable,” said Erdogan as he left. He warned there would be repercussions on relations between Turkey and Israel. “I am a prime minister and no one shouts at me,” he said.
The Israeli leader later called the Turkish premier and they agreed the incident would not affect relations between their countries.
And Israel want to sell weapons to them?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:25:21pm |
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The Shadow Do Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:13pm |
re: #846 FurryOldGuyJeans
Testifying or not could end up being a tarnish on his escutcheon.
And I am all for tarnishing his escutcheon! LOL
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ArmyWife Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:16pm |
re: #838 Bloodnok
Like that’s never been said! I’ll give you a non-personal story. Bret’s tattoo artist did my ink, and we were all playing music and - oh wait, this does get personal. Nevermind. ;)
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:18pm |
re: #847 Shr_Nfr
They finally changed the law in MA so that I don’t have to retreat from my own house before I can shoot somebody
What makes you think you have more of a right to (so-called) “your” house than the so-called “home invader” does? Property is theft, dude!
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:28pm |
re: #856 FurryOldGuyJeans
I bow before the verity of your statement. ;)
And curse myself for not thinking of it first.
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avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:40pm |
re: #821 Pietr
Is Zombie around? I ask, because I’ve gotten a disturbing report from a grand nephew, on the missus side. He was called up with his guard unit to work the security for the Inauguration. He said there was a bus load of BO supporters who came by and they were calling the troops “Fascist Army Pigs” and spitting at them. I wondered if he or anyone else got similar feedback.
Now I thought the GWB “Heyhey Goodbye” was low class-but to treat the guys/gals who protect us (and who were there to protect them, as well as BO) like this, on Jan 20TH, is the LOWEST of low class. Bubba’s time was called the trailer trash years by some-but even he and Hilarious’s supporters weren’t this vile, IMHO…….
Never heard a peep about anything like that. There was the drunk college kid that whipped out a small Soviet flag for a second while on camera, but the other kids took it away.
Then yesterday I read about a drum major that was suspending for nodding at Obama when he waved at him. Drum majors are not supposed to do that.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:27:06pm |
re: #858 The Shadow Do
And I am all for tarnishing his escutcheon! LOL
O might find out that teflon itches. ;)
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opnion Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:27:09pm |
re: #841 nyc redneck
LOL,
if he was a gifted intelligent person, we would see the evidence, (grades, awards, accolades, accomplishments) splashed everywhere.
he is NOT being coy by w/holding flattering information abt his brilliance..
there is none. or we would have seen it.
Logic itself. Obama is full of hubris & if he had a very distnguished background, the proof statements would be paraded all over the place.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:06pm |
re: #861 Bloodnok
And curse myself for not thinking of it first.
Would you please kindly get the hell out of my head! ;)
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Bloodnok Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:15pm |
re: #859 ArmyWife
Like that’s never been said! I’ll give you a non-personal story. Bret’s tattoo artist did my ink, and we were all playing music and - oh wait, this does get personal. Nevermind. ;)
S’OK, it’s Nothin’ But a Good Time.
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Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:28pm |
re: #839 Iron Fist
Machine guns require a special permit up here from the local police chief. Not unheard of, but I never felt the urge to chew up ammo that fast. I am not sure where the moonbats have their environmental stuff now. For a while they were trying to shut down a lot of gun clubs over “lead in the environment”. Sorry guys, but you know, I can go dig a ball out of a civil war battlefield, and its still all there. Metallic lead does not leech all that much. Its like aluminum. You form an oxide on the outside and that is the end of it. Other forms of lead like lead sulphide and so forth are a different matter. But never try to confuse a moonbat with science. They have come to their conclusions handed down by a higher power. Bah!
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:32pm |
re: #855 Nevergiveup
At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan Thursday, Jan. 29, reproached Israeli president Shimon Peres over the Gaza offensive, saying “You kill people,”
Now that’s odd, I seem to recall Turkey doing some very non-diplomatic things to the Kurds. Including Kurds living outside their own borders.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:33pm |
re: #732 karmic_inquisitor
BTW - how is that hyperextended knee?
You caught me just before I crawl off to bed to elevate the bastard, KI!
Thanks for asking. It was both the knee and the ankle on the same leg. Not to mention the big throbbing knot on the back o’ me head. There is no damage outside swelling and pain, and it should be all right in a few days. Getting up and through the stiffness that builds up overnight is the worst part. After that it’s just a limp and some discomfort. Can’t take my dog Haku for decent walks, though - he has to make do with the back yard for now.
The shop I slipped in front of had let another inch of uncleared ice build up the next morning (yesterday). I went in and read them Leviticus (German expression for “riot act”). Dimwit cutie at the counter made excuses, said they had put down salt. On top of an inch of ice! I told them they had to chip the ice down to the pavement and then worry about salt! Two minutes later the cook - only guy there - was out doing what should have been done before they opened up.
The merchants on that block are mostly a disgrace about these things. I’m surprised they haven’t all been sued before.
By the way, do your inquisition duties include verify LGF karma? Wouldn’t that be a bitch…
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:29:12pm |
re: #855 Nevergiveup
The drones probably send back to Israel whatever they’re sending to Turkey.
Soon, we’ll see youtube videos of the way the Turks treat the Kurds.
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Occasional Reader Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:29:46pm |
re: #869 Shr_Nfr
For a while they were trying to shut down a lot of gun clubs over “lead in the environment”.
Okay, I’ll take a full-auto M4 with military-issue tungsten ammo. Problem solved.
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Cognito Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:31:45pm |
re: #451 Soona’
If it’s not government bailout money, then it’s none of our business.
Um, yes, it is.
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Shr_Nfr Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:31:50pm |
re: #860 Occasional Reader
I already have 2 Senators and one fat purple Dinosaur who do a pretty good job of theft on me already. Not to mention a state that is overspending on anything and everything but the things they need.
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jcbunga Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:32:48pm |
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but here’s an article The One won’t enjoy:
“Obama’s remarks about the Israel-Palestine issue were so trite as to merit no analysis. He said he was sending former Sen. George Mitchell to listen to all sides - as if the world has not been hearing their stories for more than six decades.”
[Link: www.nypost.com…]
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quickjustice Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:34:56pm |
re: #855 Nevergiveup
Back in the 1920s, Ataturk took Turkey away from the sultans and Islamists. Wearing the fez was banned. Turkey began using the Roman alphabet. Turks began wearing western clothes. Hagia Sophia was converted from a mosque to a museum.
It’s a shame to watch Turkey reverting to barbarism.
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avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:35:40pm |
re: #852 FurryOldGuyJeans
The O booster has basically called us liars since we won’t believe his words of how well O did in school. Now you try applying logic and facts to faith in The One. That ain’t cricket! ;)
Never in the short time I’ve been on here have I called anyone a liar, engaged in name calling or the rest. If someone posts the opinion that Obama got into Harvard because of affirmative action, I may post a contrary opinion.
A opinion is neither truth or a lie, it’s but a opinion.
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:36:03pm |
re: #836 The Shadow Do
Executive privilege redux?
He wasn’t an executive then the deal was negotiated. HA! Don’t wait for the translation; answer the question!\
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callahan23 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:36:25pm |
re: #850 mean Gene
I found a personal new favorite from real African provers online…..
“Don’t tell the man who is carrying you that he stinks.”
Don’t know exactly what it means but anyway here it goes:
“The lizard that jumped from the high iroko tree to the ground said he would praise himself if no one else did.”
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calcajun Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:36:59pm |
re: #879 quickjustice
Back in the 1920s, Ataturk took Turkey away from the sultans and Islamists. Wearing the fez was banned. Turkey began using the Roman alphabet. Turks began wearing western clothes. Hagia Sophia was converted from a mosque to a museum.
It’s a shame to watch Turkey reverting to barbarism.
Yeah—and a fez just looks stupid on anyone not driving a little car in a parade.
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quickjustice Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:38:38pm |
re: #880 avanti
Obama got into Harvard law school based upon the recommendations of allies of Tom Ayers and former Democratic Manhattan Borough President Percy Sutton, who received a recommendation of Obama from an Arab business partner of his.
He had powerful allies.
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:39:22pm |
re: #847 Shr_Nfr
You wind up with arguments about compelling state interest vs rational interest. The state has a compelling interest to protect the POTUS. It only has a rational interest to protect me. It makes all the difference in equal protection stuff. But I do get really pissed off at these guys who live in these protected compounds telling me I shouldn’t be able to defend me and mine in my own house. They finally changed the law in MA so that I don’t have to retreat from my own house before I can shoot somebody. Previously I had to. You still have to try and disengage outside your house, but at least one thing has improved.
I live in WA, another Class III state, with shall issue concealed permits, a no retreat state very close to Castle law. My reasoning works like this, “shall not be infringed” is a right enshrined by the 2nd Amend of the Federal Constitution. Therefore it does fall under the 14th. Illinois is the worst state, Currently they do not enjoy the 2nd to the same extent that I do.
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Eowyn2 Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:40:11pm |
re: #295 karmic_inquisitor
It is all here - List of US Underground Bases
Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!
not an accurate report.
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jcm Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:43:43pm |
re: #886 Eowyn2
not an accurate report.
What do you mean “not accurate?”
2. Mt. St. Helens, Washington
Function: thought to be electromagnetic/ultra- and subsound research
Sheesh, we lost containment on the MarkIV on May, 18 1980. What freaking mess that was.
;-)
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gregg Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:43:46pm |
re: #813 Nevergiveup
Former President George W. Bush and wife Laura attended Wednesday’s game. The two entered several minutes before the opening tip, flanking Lady Bears coach Kim Mulkey, and received a prolonged standing ovation from the fans at the Ferrell Center. The group was engulfed by photographers and camera crews at the Oklahoma bench.
Go for it Mr. President.
Here’s a video of the rousing welcome, for those interested:
[Link: cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com…]
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quickjustice Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:45:42pm |
More about Obama’s admission to Harvard Law School here:
[Link: www.theobamafile.com…]
“But new questions have been raised about Obama’s student loans and Obama’s ties to a radical Muslim activist who reportedly was raising money for Obama’s Harvard studies during the years 1988 to 1991.
The allegations first surfaced in late March, when former Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton told a New York cable channel that a former business partner who was “raising money” for Obama had approached him in 1988 to help Obama get into Harvard Law School.
In this video interview, Sutton says he first heard of Obama about twenty years ago from Khalid Al-Mansour, who Sutton described as advisor to “one of the world’s richest men,” Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal.
Prince Alwaleed catapulted to fame in the United States after the September 11 attacks, when New York mayor Rudy Guiliani refused his $10 million check to help rebuild Manhattan, because the Saudi prince hinted publicly that America’s pro-Israel policies were to blame for the attacks.
Sutton knew Al-Mansour well, since the two men had been business partners and served on several corporate boards together.
As Sutton remembered, Al-Mansour was raising money for Obama’s education and seeking recommendations for him to attend Harvard Law School.”
“I was introduced to (Obama) by a friend who was raising money for him,” Sutton told NY1 city hall reporter Dominic Carter. “The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas.”
Apparently, al-Mansour serves on the Board of, among others, Saudi African Bank and was responsible for the Africa investment activities of Kingdom Holdings, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal’s investment company.
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Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:51:27pm |
re: #862 avanti
There was the drunk college kid that whipped out a small Soviet flag for a second while on camera, but the other kids took it away.
Heh-heh! Years ago I gave my ex a Soviet Army winter hat that I’d gotten in Moscow. (The generic Russian name for this kind of winter hat with earflaps, by the way, whether military-style faux-fur, or real fur, or fleece, is ушанка — ushánka, pronounced like “ew-SHONK-uh”)
He showed up wearing it when he came down from NYC for the Obama Coronation — but he’d taken the hammer-and-sickle insignia off, lest anyone think that an Obama supporter was an actual Commie.
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MacGiolaPhadraig Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:53:14pm |
“When in danger or in doubt….” isn’t original to Heinlein.
I remember it from the Cain Mutiny. See [Link: www.wordwizard.com…]
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:56:04pm |
re: #888 gregg
Here’s a video of the rousing welcome, for those interested:
[Link: cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com…]
I miss him already. The LSM will not be able to keep the lid on the American publics enthusiasm for George W. Bush.
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avanti Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:56:35pm |
re: #884 quickjustice
Obama got into Harvard law school based upon the recommendations of allies of Tom Ayers and former Democratic Manhattan Borough President Percy Sutton, who received a recommendation of Obama from an Arab business partner of his.
He had powerful allies.
And his daddy was a grad,, from the current Harvard web page:
Are a student’s chances of admission enhanced if a relative has attended Harvard ?
The application process is the same for all candidates. Among a group of similarly distinguished applicants, the daughters and sons of College alumni/ae may receive an additional look.
Back in Obama’s day, legacy admissions were very common.
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Throbert McGee Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:01:01pm |
re: #890 Throbert McGee
(The generic Russian name for this kind of winter hat with earflaps, by the way, whether military-style faux-fur, or real fur, or fleece, is ушанка — ushánka, pronounced like “ew-SHONK-uh”)
I forgot to add (not that anyone cares) that ushi means “ears” in Russian — thus, the word ushanka literally translates to something like “thingamajig for the ears.” (Although it has to be outer-space cold before a Real Russian Man will fold down the earflaps on his ushanka.)
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Spiny Norman Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:07:43pm |
re: #894 Throbert McGee
I forgot to add (not that anyone cares) that ushi means “ears” in Russian — thus, the word ushanka literally translates to something like “thingamajig for the ears.” (Although it has to be outer-space cold before a Real Russian Man will fold down the earflaps on his ushanka.)
If their ears aren’t turning blue, the flaps stay up?
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TedStriker Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:39:07pm |
re: #842 Silhouette
This doesn’t address treatment of troops, but I can report that a co-worker, a hardcore worshipper at the church of Obama, went to the inauguration. So realize he is not exactly eager to say bad things about the crowd.
When we discussed that Bush was booed, he said that the media was being VERY kind and that it was, in reality, very ugly.
Very.
Ugly.
When I hear of incidents like this (almost always involving leftists), I think about Fallen Angels by David Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Michael Flynn…pisses me off when I think of what may happen if the leftists, socialists, and environazis succeed in getting their hands fully around the nation’s throat. The only thing we can do to defend liberty and freedom is to fight them at every turn…
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jcbunga Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:13:12pm |
By 1939 Roosevelt’s own Treasury secretary, Henry Morgenthau, had realized that the New Deal economic policies had failed. “We have tried spending money,” Morgenthau wrote in his diary. “We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work… . After eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started… . And an enormous debt to boot!”
Nuff said.
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