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1 maddogg  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:44:08pm

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

2 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:44:17pm

Oh…thank Obama for this blessed open thread.

/runs, ducks

3 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:44:43pm

Hopen. Hopen.

Damn. Still no change.

4 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:45:20pm

All is well.

5 Wasta  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:45:41pm

If at first O don’t succeed…cry, cry, again!

6 Hengineer  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:46:31pm

Shout!
a little bit louder now

SHOUT!

7 Cathypop  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:46:54pm

Why are the libs constantly running in circles screaming and shouting?
Is it because they got no unicorn?

8 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:02pm

When in doubt, push a lot of buttons.
/forget where I heard that one

9 Hengineer  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:23pm

Speaking of Heinlein, I really enjoyed his books.
The Red Planet was a favorite

10 maddogg  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:26pm
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

perhaps Mr. Heinlein would allow me to substitute a forlorn howl…

11 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:31pm

The Village Idiot Reporting for duty.

12 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:36pm

re: #6 Hengineer

Shout!
a little bit louder now

SHOUT!

Otis! My man!

13 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:47:40pm

Hi all you Hopen Honcos!

Done your taxes yet? Ya might want to consider decreasing your expemtions ….. The “O” is gonna need the money.

14 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:48:15pm

Article: Don’t Strengthen Hamas
You listening OBAMA?

15 LGoPs  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:48:53pm
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

Now you’ve done it. Revealed the libtards super secret Global Warming strategy………
/

16 tjseagrove  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:49:07pm

Listening to the IL Senators, it does not look good for Blabovich…as if it did anyway.

17 Cathypop  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:49:19pm

re: #13 eschew_obfuscation

Hi all you Hopen Honcos!

Done your taxes yet? Ya might want to consider decreasing your expemtions ….. The “O” is gonna need the money.

1451 days and counting

18 ThinkRight  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:02pm

This is only week two of CHANGE and we have kissed up to the radical muslims and the Taliban has endorsed Obama
The dems are going to bankrupt the U.S. and Algore has put that bankruptcy on the fast track.
We are so screwed
We might not make it 4 years

A repost

19 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:03pm

re: #14 WriterMom

Article: Don’t Strengthen Hamas
You listening OBAMA?

The Wizard of O’s doesn’t listen ….. he pronounces and pontificates …. and the seas recede. :~)

20 bosforus  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:05pm
21 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:22pm

Bizarre random synaptic firing… ever notice how “Obama” rhymes with “Yo’ Mama”?

22 maddogg  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:24pm
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

Actually, thats my Wife’s emergency response plan.

23 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:50:33pm

re: #14 WriterMom

Article: Don’t Strengthen Hamas
You listening OBAMA?

I think your going to need one of these things.

Image: bull_horn.jpg

24 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:51:14pm

When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout PANIC!

25 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:51:19pm

re: #21 MrSilverDragon

Bizarre random synaptic firing… ever notice how “Obama” rhymes with “Yo’ Mama”?

racist!
/

26 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:51:27pm

Has the Pentagon ever had a plan to take over the Executive Branch?

27 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:51:50pm

Attention Everyone!

They are on to us and have discovered our secret location!

28 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:10pm

re: #24 A Kiwi Infidel

When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout PANIC!

DO PANIC EMMER EFFERS!- Hitchhiker ahhhhh

29 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:11pm

re: #22 maddogg

Actually, thats my Wife’s emergency response plan.

Here…:)


Image: easy%20button.jpg

30 LGoPs  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:21pm

re: #18 ThinkRight

This is only week two of CHANGE and we have kissed up to the radical muslims and the Taliban has endorsed Obama
The dems are going to bankrupt the U.S. and Algore has put that bankruptcy on the fast track.
We are so screwed
We might not make it 4 years


“Everything going exactly according to plan” - *libtard gleefully rubbing hands together*
/

31 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:32pm

re: #26 MandyManners

Not touching that one.

32 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:37pm

There’s been a national overdose on hopium.
Wonder how bad the hangover’s gonna be.

33 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:52:48pm

re: #26 MandyManners

Has the Pentagon ever had a plan to take over the Executive Branch?


Eisenhower?

34 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:53:01pm

When in doubt, keep yer effen mouth shut …

From Israellycool comes this link to a report about the terrible,a wful school ‘massacre’ by that oh-so-bad IDF: It didn’t happen!

Anybody surprised?
Me neither …

But that UN-twat still has the effrontery to come up with this:
‘“I know no one was killed in the school,” Mr. Ging said. “But 41 innocent people were killed in the street outside the school. Many of those people had taken refuge in the school and wandered out onto the street.
“The state of Israel still has to answer for that. What did they know and what care did they take?”’

Israel has to answer for people walking out into the street?
And has that twat ever asked what care the hamassholes took when firing their missles?
Thought not ..

35 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:53:44pm

re: #26 MandyManners

Has the Pentagon ever had a plan to take over the Executive Branch?

Ya’ never know. Maybe.

36 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:53:50pm

re: #9 Hengineer

Speaking of Heinlein, I really enjoyed his books.
The Red Planet was a favorite

Gave mine away …
Must see to get them, second-hand, again …

37 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:53:51pm

CAIR cry’s to FBI about LGF.
FBI turns agents to monitor LGF.
Agents learn about CAIR via LGF.
FBI to CAIR: ‘GAZE’.
Agents sign up on registration day at LGF.

I can ‘hope’.

38 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:11pm

re: #32 Honorary Yooper

There’s been a national overdose on hopium.
Wonder how bad the hangover’s gonna be.

painful and expensive…no lube and no mercy

39 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:15pm

Someone explain to the 0ne that just because he’s in charge of the Executive branch doesn’t mean he’s supposed to execute the US.

40 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:22pm

I refuse to be a sheep.

I shall shout and run around in octagons.

41 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:32pm

OK, we have a ton of bloviating right now by the senators. We’ll see how long it takes them to vote for/against the impeachment of Blago.

42 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:41pm

re: #21 MrSilverDragon

Bizarre random synaptic firing… ever notice how “Obama” rhymes with “Yo’ Mama”?

Also with “Oh crap, we’re screwed now”.

/

43 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:46pm

I’ve been quoting that Heinlein saying for decades when people start to get worked up over problems. It’s wonderful to meet with it here, in a bastion of (generally speaking) reason. ;^)

44 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:54:53pm

re: #36 yma o hyd

Gave mine away …
Must see to get them, second-hand, again …

I’m looking for a copy of “Have Space Suit Will Travel”

45 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:12pm
46 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:21pm

Biden to make ‘major’ US foreign-policy speech in Munich

Vice President Joe Biden is to make a ‘major’ speech about the new US administration’s defence and foreign policy at the end of next week in Munich, the organizer of a German conference said Thursday.

Wolfgang Ischinger said the address at the annual Munich security conference would set out the position of the administration of President Barack Obama.

/how fun might this be?

47 gregg  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:27pm

I think the President’s plate is full:

The United Steelworkers union plans to reject a contract offer from Royal Dutch Shell Plc, setting the stage for a nationwide strike of 30,000 workers at U.S. refineries processing about two-thirds of the country’s oil.

One thing that has helped during this economic downturn is the much lower gas prices. If the refineries stop refining, what happens to the price of gas? Can you imagine Obama ordering the strikers back to work like Reagan did with PATCO?

48 J.S.  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:31pm

re: #26 MandyManners

ahem! that’s called “a coup d’etat.”

49 ThinkRight  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:36pm

re: #37 Oh no…Sand People!

CAIR cry’s to FBI about LGF.
FBI turns agents to monitor LGF.
Agents learn about CAIR via LGF.
FBI to CAIR: ‘GAZE’.
Agents sign up on registration day at LGF.

I can ‘hope’.


They help Charles monitor all you racist Islamophobes

50 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:55:38pm

re: #42 Oh no…Sand People!

Also with “Oh crap, we’re screwed now”.

/

Well, that is a bit of a forced rhyme, but I can accept it.

51 Tumulus11  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:10pm

. Have your nukes, we won’t resist - but, please would you unclench that fist?
/

52 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:18pm

re: #46 Killian Bundy

Biden to make ‘major’ US foreign-policy speech in Munich

/how fun might this be?

Is he going to return with a paper that promises “peace in our time”?

53 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:20pm

re: #37 Oh no…Sand People!

CAIR cry’s to FBI about LGF.
FBI turns agents to monitor LGF.
Agents learn about CAIR via LGF.
FBI to CAIR: ‘GAZE’.
Agents sign up on registration day at LGF.

I can ‘hope’.

Lizards with a badge…I like it…:)

54 J.S.  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:25pm

re: #46 Killian Bundy

Is that the Muslim capital Obama keeps talking about?

55 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:49pm

re: #52 Kosh’s Shadow

Is he going to return with a paper that promises “peace in our time”?


wonder what momument he will pick to blovate from?

56 logboy  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:56:59pm

re: #37 Oh no…Sand People!

CAIR cry’s to FBI about LGF.
FBI turns agents to monitor LGF.
Agents learn about CAIR via LGF.
FBI to CAIR: ‘GAZE’.
Agents sign up on registration day at LGF.

I can ‘hope’.

That would explain the 25 quiet hatchlings yesterday.

57 debutaunt  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:11pm

re: #13 eschew_obfuscation

Hi all you Hopen Honcos!

Done your taxes yet? Ya might want to consider decreasing your expemtions ….. The “O” is gonna need the money.


Judge says Schwarzenegger can furlough workers
SACRAMENTO (AP) - A judge has sided with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in his bid to save money by forcing state workers to take days off without pay.

The two-day-a-month furloughs are scheduled to start next week.

Two state employee unions had challenged Schwarzenegger’s executive order, saying he did not have authority to order furloughs on his own. A Sacramento County Superior Court judge disagreed.

He also cited the state’s financial condition. California will be forced to make billions of dollars in cuts to close a deficit projected to hit $42 billion through June 2010.

In his temporary order Thursday, Judge Patrick Marlette said: “The current circumstances constitute an emergency.”


(Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

58 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:18pm

re: #47 gregg

I think the President’s plate is full:


One thing that has helped during this economic downturn is the much lower gas prices. If the refineries stop refining, what happens to the price of gas? Can you imagine Obama ordering the strikers back to work like Reagan did with PATCO?

Can he? PATCO folks were federal employees I believe…

59 Alaska Kim  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:28pm

We Americans were damn tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November and removed all doubt….

60 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:31pm

re: #53 Dustyvet

Lizards with a badge…I like it…:)

A moonbats worst nightmare…

61 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:32pm

Mitchell: Open Gaza crossings with PA

US Middle East envoy George Mitchell on Thursday said that the Gaza crossings must be opened in cooperation with the Palestinian Authority.

In a press conference Mitchell held with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah, Mitchell told reporters that “to be successful in preventing the illicit traffic of arms into Gaza there must be a mechanism to allow the flow of legal goods, and that should be with the participation of the Palestinian Authority.”

/is he kidding?

62 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:57:40pm
63 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:58:03pm

re: #46 Killian Bundy

Biden to make ‘major’ US foreign-policy speech in Munich

/how fun might this be?

Ich bin ein Gerlymon.

64 mikalm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:58:29pm

When in doubt
I whip it out!

—Ted Nugent

65 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:58:52pm

re: #58 eschew_obfuscation

Can he? PATCO folks were federal employees I believe…

He will send them to frolic in the fields of hope…the valley of change…

66 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:58:58pm

re: #46 Killian Bundy

Biden to make ‘major’ US foreign-policy speech in Munich


/how fun might this be?

This also might be very scary.
/hopenchange

67 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:12pm

re: #63 SasquatchOnSteroids

Ich bin ein Gerlymon.

SO FUNNY!

68 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:21pm

Aid trucks stranded at Egypt’s Gaza border

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

And not a peep out of the UN?

69 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:25pm
70 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:38pm

re: #46 Killian Bundy

Biden to make ‘major’ US foreign-policy speech in Munich

/how fun might this be?

“Stand up for Wolfgang!”

71 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:43pm

re: #61 Killian Bundy

Mitchell: Open Gaza crossings with PA

/is he kidding?

He’s stupid, but dead serious.

72 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 12:59:48pm

re: #61 Killian Bundy

Mitchell: Open Gaza crossings with PA


/is he kidding?

Sadly…no

73 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:00:09pm

re: #34 yma o hyd

When in doubt, keep yer effen mouth shut …

From Israellycool comes this link to a report about the terrible,a wful school ‘massacre’ by that oh-so-bad IDF: It didn’t happen!

Anybody surprised?
Me neither …

But that UN-twat still has the effrontery to come up with this:
‘“I know no one was killed in the school,” Mr. Ging said. “But 41 innocent people were killed in the street outside the school. Many of those people had taken refuge in the school and wandered out onto the street.
“The state of Israel still has to answer for that. What did they know and what care did they take?”’

Israel has to answer for people walking out into the street?
And has that twat ever asked what care the hamassholes took when firing their missles?
Thought not ..

But wait, the MSM will print it, the world will believe it………..

74 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:00:13pm

GOP has deal with AG nominee Holder not to prosecute former Bush Administration officials in exchange for their support? Dirty deeds indeed.

75 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:00:46pm

re: #73 A Kiwi Infidel

But wait, the MSM will print it, the world will believe it………..


aaaaaand cue the crickets…:)

76 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:00:59pm

re: #56 logboy

That would explain the 25 quiet hatchlings yesterday.

We know your out there! Come in with your hands up!
/

77 thefallingman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:01:00pm

Well, at least we as a nation are following his advice.

78 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:01:23pm

re: #59 Alaska Kim

We Americans were damn tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November and removed all doubt….

Heh… true dat

I continue to wonder why reasonably intelligent people regularly look to the rest of the world when deciding what the U.S. should do about this or that issue. Not that we have nothing to learn from others, but we’ve done a damn fine job with most issues relative to the rest of the world.

79 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:01:28pm

re: #57 debutaunt


Gannett is already doing that…

80 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:01:54pm

re: #49 ThinkRight

They help Charles monitor all you racist Islamophobesrealists

81 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:06pm

o raised the thermostat in the white house. he didn’t do the ‘green’ thing and put on a sweater, because he, like algore, is special.
only we need to be chilly in our homes so the rest of the world will be ok w/ us.

82 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:07pm

re: #76 Soona’

We know your out there! Come in with your hands up!
/

Sock puppet call?

83 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:25pm

re: #81 nyc redneck

o raised the thermostat in the white house. he didn’t do the ‘green’ thing and put on a sweater, because he, like algore, is special.
only we need to be chilly in our homes so the rest of the world will be ok w/ us.

link?

84 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:32pm

re: #56 logboy

That would explain the 25 quiet hatchlings yesterday.

Come to think about it, I am sure the LGF is banned on all Government computers.
If not, Obama will shortly.

85 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:33pm

re: #78 eschew_obfuscation

Heh… true dat

I continue to wonder why reasonably intelligent people regularly look to the rest of the world when deciding what the U.S. should do about this or that issue. Not that we have nothing to learn from others, but we’ve done a damn fine job with most issues relative to the rest of the world.

Near as I can tell, the rest of the world is laughing behind their hand.

86 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:38pm

re: #78 eschew_obfuscation

Heh… true dat

I continue to wonder why reasonably intelligent people regularly look to the rest of the world when deciding what the U.S. should do about this or that issue. Not that we have nothing to learn from others, but we’ve done a damn fine job with most issues relative to the rest of the world.

It’s like telling the Super Bowl champs to listen to the Lions on how to do things.

87 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:02:57pm

An imprisoned ex-CIA spy and his son have been charged with renewing contact with the father’s former Russian handlers to get more money for espionage.

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

Once wasn’t enough for this traitor?

88 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:03:23pm

re: #74 lawhawk

GOP has deal with AG nominee Holder not to prosecute former Bush Administration officials in exchange for their support? Dirty deeds indeed.

Idiots.
Why do they think he won’t turn round, once confirmed, and say circumstances have changed and he’s going to do it anyway?

89 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:03:50pm

re: #57 debutaunt

Judge says Schwarzenegger can furlough workers
SACRAMENTO (AP) - A judge has sided with Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in his bid to save money by forcing state workers to take days off without pay.

The two-day-a-month furloughs are scheduled to start next week.

Two state employee unions had challenged Schwarzenegger’s executive order, saying he did not have authority to order furloughs on his own. A Sacramento County Superior Court judge disagreed.

He also cited the state’s financial condition. California will be forced to make billions of dollars in cuts to close a deficit projected to hit $42 billion through June 2010.

In his temporary order Thursday, Judge Patrick Marlette said: “The current circumstances constitute an emergency.”

(Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

paying taxes is the new patriotism.

90 BatGuano  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:04:04pm

I still have my paper back copy of that book from years ago.

91 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:04:25pm

re: #83 DisturbedEma

link?

heard it on hannity.

92 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:04:59pm

Charles, have you seen this yet?

Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.

Administration shocked!

93 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:05:38pm

re: #86 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It’s like telling the Super Bowl champs to listen to the Lions on how to do things.


eggzacly!

94 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:05:41pm

re: #83 DisturbedEma

[Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com…]

The NYT buried that part, and didn’t criticize the move, despite Obama railing on about how we needed to conserve energy and set our thermostats lower…

95 thefallingman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:05:44pm

re: #59 Alaska Kim
When I was stationed in South Korea I had a German tourist complain to me that we Americans never care what the rest of the world thinks about us. I asked him if Germans care what Americans think about them. He told me, “No. Why should they?”. I tried to get him to see that if Germans don’t consider our opinions we were under no obligation to consider theirs. The conversation deteriorated from there.

96 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:12pm

Has anyone linked this story yet?

Report: Barack Obama’s Al Qaida initiative began months before his election

Barack Obama was working with Arab intermediaries to establish an unofficial dialogue with Al Qaida long before his election as the 44th U.S. president, according to a report in the upcoming weekly edition of Geostrategy-Direct.com.

Al Qaida has offered what has been described as a truce in exchange for a U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan, according to the report.

Obama has deemed the U.S. reconciliation with the Muslim world, including Iran, as his main foreign policy goal, sources quoted in the report said. The president has been aided by several Persian Gulf Arab Muslims with ties to Al Qaida’s leadership in Pakistan, they said.

97 yochanan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:15pm

BUCK FLAGO’S goose is cooked in fact it is OVER DONE

98 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:15pm

re: #9 Hengineer

Speaking of Heinlein, I really enjoyed his books.
The Red Planet was a favorite

Starship Troopers, followed by Number of the Beast.

99 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:40pm

re: #37 Oh no…Sand People!

CAIR cry’s to FBI about LGF.
FBI turns agents to monitor LGF.
Agents learn about CAIR via LGF.
FBI to CAIR: ‘GAZE’. put your hands behind your backs and spread your legs apart. You have the right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you in a court of law…….
Agents sign up on registration day at LGF.

I can ‘hope’.


I’m hopin’ too

100 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:54pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

Charles, have you seen this yet?

Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.

Administration shocked!

An independent judiciary! Why the nerve of them!
//

101 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:06:56pm
102 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:07:20pm

re: #85 unreconstructed rebel

Near as I can tell, the rest of the world is laughing behind their hand.

Yeah, and I find that embarrassing ….. but then, I didn’t vote for the turkey.

103 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:07:43pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

“We just learned of the ruling … and we are consulting with the Pentagon and the Department of Justice to explore our options in the case,” said White Press secretary Robert Gibbs

I wonder how long Gibbs is going to last?

104 Kenneth  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:07:54pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

The Pentagon may now be forced to withdraw the charges against Abd al Rahim al-Nashiri, a Saudi citizen of Yemeni descent.

al-Nashiri is one of the only three terrorists that the CIA used waterboarding on. I expect sooner or later Obama will apologize to him.

105 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:08:01pm

re: #96 jcm

I never saw it. Do you believe it?

106 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:08:04pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

Charles, have you seen this yet?

Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.


The judge, Army Col. James Pohl, said his decision was difficult but necessary to protect “the public interest in a speedy trial.” The ruling came in the case against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The bombing of the Navy destroyer in 2000 in the harbor of Aden, Yemen, killed 17 U.S.

speedy?
The Cole was bombed 9 years ago!

107 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:08:19pm

“And now, the Larch.”

108 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:08:42pm

re: #107 FurryOldGuyJeans

“And now, the Larch.”

The…Larch

109 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:09:05pm

re: #106 Shug

The judge, Army Col. James Pohl, said his decision was difficult but necessary to protect “the public interest in a speedy trial.” The ruling came in the case against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The bombing of the Navy destroyer in 2000 in the harbor of Aden, Yemen, killed 17 U.S.

speedy?
The Cole was bombed 9 years ago!

Yeah, but when was the shmuck apprehended?

110 BatGuano  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:09:15pm

re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’ve read Starship Troopers many times. I especially liked his ideas on citizenship.

111 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:09:28pm

re: #105 Nevergiveup

I never saw it. Do you believe it?

Grain of salt. But it fits the pattern, along with his first call to Abu Mazin, the overtures to Iran etc…

112 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:09:51pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

Charles, have you seen this yet?

Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.

Administration shocked!

Interesting typo there:

“We just learned of the ruling … and we are consulting with the Pentagon and the Department of Justice to explore our options in the case,” said White Press secretary Robert Gibbs

Is there also a Black Press secretary?

113 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:02pm

re: #108 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The…Larch

The Larch

114 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:03pm

re: #103 unreconstructed rebel

I wonder how long Gibbs is going to last?

If it wasn’t for the fact that he is running flak for a Dem and media appointed president he would have been WH press corps lunch his first 5 seconds on the job.

115 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:11pm

re: #109 Nevergiveup

Yeah, but when was the shmuck apprehended?

aah. good point.

probably long enough ago though.

116 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:50pm
117 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:10:57pm

re: #107 FurryOldGuyJeans

“And now, the Larch.”


The Larch?

Are we larching to the deciduous or the evergreen?

118 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:11:02pm

re: #9 Hengineer

Speaking of Heinlein, I really enjoyed his books.
The Red Planet was a favorite

re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Starship Troopers, followed by Number of the Beast.

“Stranger In A Strange Land.” The book is, well, strange, but grippingly written and thought-provoking.

Or at least it seemed that way to a 13-year-old…

119 filetandrelease  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:11:05pm

re: #96 jcm

Al Qaida has offered what has been described as a truce in exchange for a U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan, according to the report.

Ask Israel how in the past a “truce” has worked for them.

120 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:11:23pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

Is there also a Black Press secretary?

I could no more abandon Rev Wright, than I could my very own white press secretary

121 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:15pm

re: #110 BatGuano

I’ve read Starship Troopers many times. I especially liked his ideas on citizenship.

Yup, some very good ideas there.

122 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:19pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

If he hadn’t seen it yet he been asleep at the helm. That was a good part of the last thread off-topic bantam roostering. ;)

123 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:26pm

re: #96 jcm

Has anyone linked this story yet?

Report: Barack Obama’s Al Qaida initiative began months before his election


Chamberlain had peace in our time
Obama wants ROP in our time

both ended very very badly

124 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:39pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

Is there also a Black Press secretary?

Must be.
Would be racist if there weren’t …

125 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:12:59pm

re: #118 Cato the Elder

“Stranger In A Strange Land.” The book is, well, strange, but grippingly written and thought-provoking.

Or at least it seemed that way to a 13-year-old…

No, that’s a good book, IMO.

“Glory Road” for cheap Heinlein thrills.

126 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:13:27pm

re: #117 eschew_obfuscation

The Larch?

Are we larching to the deciduous or the evergreen?

You must have never seen Monty Python’s Flying Circus, I see. That was a running joke akin to SNL’s “Franco is still dead”.

127 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:13:46pm

re: #118 Cato the Elder

“Stranger In A Strange Land.” The book is, well, strange, but grippingly written and thought-provoking.

Or at least it seemed that way to a 13-year-old…

Quite a difference between reading Heinlein in ones teens as opposed to in ones 30s.

128 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:14:16pm

re: #125 OldLineTexan

No, that’s a good book, IMO.

“Glory Road” for cheap Heinlein thrills.

Tunnels in the Sky.

129 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:14:39pm
130 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:14:41pm

re: #126 FurryOldGuyJeans

You must have never seen Monty Python’s Flying Circus, I see. That was a running joke akin to SNL’s “Franco is still dead”.

Been a long time….. about as close as I get today is ‘shrubbery’.

131 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:03pm

re: #81 nyc redneck

o raised the thermostat in the white house. he didn’t do the ‘green’ thing and put on a sweater, because he, like algore, is special.
only we need to be chilly in our homes so the rest of the world will be ok w/ us.

Get’s better. Axlerod actually said that O is from Hawaii & needs heat.
And you thoght that he was a Senator from Illinois.

132 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:17pm

re: #116 Iron Fist

He’ll be too busy trying to ramrod new gun control laws to be interested in prosecuting a few Republicans. He’d much rather go for the mass arrests thing. Kind of like Beria, although Obama himself doesn’t remind me of Stalin. He more of a Mussolini kind of guy.

Interesting comparison.
Mussolini - hm. He was no slouch when it came to arrests and such, iirc.

133 filetandrelease  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:30pm

re: #118 Cato the Elder

“Stranger In A Strange Land.” The book is, well, strange, but grippingly written and thought-provoking.

Or at least it seemed that way to a 13-year-old…

Was is “Time enough for Love” that introduced Lazarus Long (sp)? One of my all time favorite characters.

134 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:33pm

re: #127 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Quite a difference between reading Heinlein in ones teens as opposed to in ones 30s.

Yup. While I might still enjoy Starship Trooper, his works are a bit … sophomoric.

135 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:15:57pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

Charles, have you seen this yet?

Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.

Administration shocked!

heh-heh.

Apparently they truly thought the O would be able to “rule” absolutely.

136 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:16:05pm

re: #100 jcm

An independent judiciary! Why the nerve of them!
//

Some people can’t wrap their minds around that concept. They insist that being a military judge means one is required to do whatever the president and the chain of command says.

137 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:16:27pm

re: #95 thefallingman

When I was stationed in South Korea I had a German tourist complain to me that we Americans never care what the rest of the world thinks about us. I asked him if Germans care what Americans think about them. He told me, “No. Why should they?”. I tried to get him to see that if Germans don’t consider our opinions we were under no obligation to consider theirs. The conversation deteriorated from there.

When I was living in Germany, I had a heated conversation with an older WWII type German and he was complaining about how stupid Americans seemed to be, until I reminded him how badly we kicked their genius fuhrer and generals ass’s all over the battlefield whereever we met them.

138 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:16:30pm

re: #128 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Tunnels in the Sky.

I have never read it. It’s listed in Wiki as one of the “Heinlein Juveniles”, so it should be a good fit for me.

Meanwhile, any astute fan of Science Fiction KNOWS that the entire Universe is controlled by the benevolent robot Daneel Olivaw, who lives on the moon.

139 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:15pm

re: #131 opnion

Get’s better. Axlerod actually said that O is from Hawaii & needs heat.
And you thoght that he was a Senator from Illinois.

No wonder Michelle had no money for the children - those heating bills must have been astronomical!

140 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:15pm

re: #130 eschew_obfuscation

Been a long time….. about as close as I get today is ‘shrubbery’.

You need to go wallow in the telly show….the movies give a less than perfect view of their humor.

141 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:26pm

re: #131 opnion

Even more delicious than that; the day before he was quoted as saying that DC schools had to show more toughness after closing because of a couple inches of snow and ice - saying that Chicago showed more toughness than that…

Yeah, real tough when you’re dialing up the heat.

142 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:37pm

re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans

Some people can’t wrap their minds around that concept. They insist that being a military judge means one is required to do whatever the president and the chain of command says.


Navy Lt. Cmdr. Stephen Reyes, the Pentagon-appointed attorney for Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, said the decision gives the Obama administration few options.
“The next step, if the government wants to halt the proceedings, is to withdraw the charges,” Reyes said. “Now it’s in the government’s hands,” he said. “I have no idea what they’re going to do.

Wonder if they will go as far as to withdraw the charges?

143 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:17:45pm

re: #134 unreconstructed rebel

Yup. While I might still enjoy Starship Trooper, his works are a bit … sophomoric.

There was a distinct difference in his works. Some he wrote to cater to a younger audience, others he wrote to be more controversial.

144 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:24pm

re: #135 reine.de.tout

heh-heh.

Apparently they truly thought the O would be able to “rule” absolutely.

We have some posters that apparently think military judges are required to do whatever the president and the chain of command say.

145 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:26pm

OMG - another one has found out about our tunnel system under the southwest and our complex under Denver Airport.

Good thing - they only know about the first 7 levels and I work on level 8.

146 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:27pm

re: #81 nyc redneck

o raised the thermostat in the white house. he didn’t do the ‘green’ thing and put on a sweater, because he, like algore, is special.
only we need to be chilly in our homes so the rest of the world will be ok w/ us.

Where did you see that?

147 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:37pm

re: #140 FurryOldGuyJeans

You need to go wallow in the telly show….the movies give a less than perfect view of their humor.

Oooooh….wallowing! I can do wallowing. Maybe this weekend while the wife is gone ;~P

148 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:40pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

Charles, have you seen this yet?

Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.

Administration shocked!

re: #106 Shug

The judge, Army Col. James Pohl, said his decision was difficult but necessary to protect “the public interest in a speedy trial.” The ruling came in the case against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. The bombing of the Navy destroyer in 2000 in the harbor of Aden, Yemen, killed 17 U.S.

speedy?
The Cole was bombed 9 years ago!

Very good point. One of the reasons the outcry over Gitmo gained so much traction is that people like al-Nashiri and KSM have been held for years without trials and sentencing. Some of them have confessed, yet nothing is done.

Try the cases, dammit, don’t shut down the prison and make it some other jurisdiction’s problem!

Note that these delays until now have of course not been Obama’s fault, but a matter of obscure policy by the Bush administration. I never could figure out why it was being done like that.

149 Sunlight  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:18:42pm

I remember as a teenager in Europe my parents telling me that Turkey was in NATO and that their military always took over if their society/government drifted back into radical practices. Has the current government managed to hogtie the military?
Endrogen at Davos:
[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

150 Miss Molly  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:19:18pm

I thought Barry could just talk to all these terrorists and tell them to go home and behave themselves and this whole Gito mess would be taken care of. Whats Barry going to do now that a court has gotten in his way? “Other options” — whats that all about?

151 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:19:21pm

re: #144 FurryOldGuyJeans

We have some posters that apparently think military judges are required to do whatever the president and the chain of command say.

We have 3 branches of government for a reason.
And thank goodness for it.

152 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:19:33pm

re: #96 jcm

Has anyone linked this story yet?

Report: Barack Obama’s Al Qaida initiative began months before his election

i’m thinking his ‘preoccupation’ w/ the moslem world began when he was young, shortly after he learned that his moslem father dumped him when he was a baby.
he has personal baggage.
and we have to work thru it w/ him.
gak

153 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:20:14pm

re: #128 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Tunnels in the Sky.

Which was “Lord of the Flies” in space, but I still liked it.

My 3rd grade (or was it 5th) reading book had “The Green Hills of Earth” in it. (Back then, they expected students to actually learn).
I read and re-read the short story, about the blind singer Rhysling and how he saved a spacecraft.

“I pray for one last landing
On the globe that gave me birth
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
And the cool, green hills of Earth.”

154 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:20:33pm

re: #142 reine.de.tout

Wonder if they will go as far as to withdraw the charges?

This Gitmo thing has the potential of getting real messy and public for the O. I wouldn’t put it in the “not gonna happen” basket when I reflect on the man’s previous positions and words spoken on the campaign.

155 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:20:42pm

re: #139 yma o hyd

No wonder Michelle had no money for the children - those heating bills must have been astronomical!

Remeber he lectured us that we can’t coniinue eating as much as we want & keeping our thermostats at 72?

156 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:20:47pm

re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans

Some people can’t wrap their minds around that concept. They insist that being a military judge means one is required to do whatever the president and the chain of command says.

Hell “Separation of Powers” for the civilian government isn’t understood, and civilians have little idea of what the whole military culture is anyway.

When Gitmo opeoned I looked some data on Military trials. They actually have a higher acquittal rate than civilian courts. My thought was a military jury or panel will be made of professionals who have more practice making dispassionate fact based decisions.

157 filetandrelease  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:21:15pm

re: #138 OldLineTexan
Wasn’t he created by Isac Asmimov in I-Robot? He even made the big screen.

158 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:21:22pm
159 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:21:30pm

re: #145 karmic_inquisitor

OMG - another one has found out about our tunnel system under the southwest and our complex under Denver Airport.

Good thing - they only know about the first 7 levels and I work on level 8.

Oh-my-gawd.
Cripes.
Blimey.
Shaking head in disbelief …

(Gonna go down to level 11 now, one never knows …)

160 LGoPs  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:03pm

re: #74 lawhawk

GOP has deal with AG nominee Holder not to prosecute former Bush Administration officials in exchange for their support? Dirty deeds indeed.

And what’s to keep Holder from saying “I lied” or “You misunderstood” at some point down the road.
Am I too cynical?……..

161 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:09pm

re: #148 Cato the Elder

I never could figure out why it was being done like that.

There was a strong desire to hold them for the duration of the conflict as you would POWs, but not recognize them as POWs. For many there was never any intention of giving them trials.

162 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:49pm

re: #151 reine.de.tout

We have 3 branches of government for a reason.
And thank goodness for it.

Some people think that because military judges are part of the military, which is part of the Executive branch, that they MUST do whatever the president and the chain of command say. I wonder if they really want to be a Banana Republic with thinking like that.

163 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:55pm

re: #154 FurryOldGuyJeans

This Gitmo thing has the potential of getting real messy and public for the O. I wouldn’t put it in the “not gonna happen” basket when I reflect on the man’s previous positions and words spoken on the campaign.

It would be terrible for the country, imo, for this to get messy, so I hope it doesn’t.

However, if it does, I admit I’ll be sitting here smirking.

164 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:22:58pm
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.
— Robert A. Heinlein, The Cat Who Walks Through Walls

Putch zich in hinten und shraiy bravo
(Slap yourself in the ass and shout “bravo”)

165 Sunlight  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:11pm

I remember as a teenager in Europe my parents telling me that Turkey was in NATO and that their military always took over if their society/government drifted back into radical practices. Has the current government managed to hogtie the military?
Endrogen at Davos:
[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

166 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:16pm

re: #146 reine.de.tout

Where did you see that?

Rush Limbaugh talked about it today.

167 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:31pm

re: #131 opnion

Get’s better. Axlerod actually said that O is from Hawaii & needs heat.
And you thoght that he was a Senator from Illinois.

I thought he’s been living in Illinois for several years now.

168 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:34pm

re: #157 filetandrelease

Wasn’t he created by Isac Asmimov in I-Robot? He even made the big screen.

Unfortunately the movie had nothing to do with the novella, and destroyed the character of Elijah Bailey while eliminating R. Daneel Olivaw completely. As much as I enjoyed Will Smith playing himself in a fair action flick, I was utterly disappointed. The Asimov “Robot” stories are far better, and there was room and material for sequels.

169 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:47pm

re: #118 Cato the Elder

“Stranger In A Strange Land.” The book is, well, strange, but grippingly written and thought-provoking.

Or at least it seemed that way to a 13-year-old…

re: #133 filetandrelease

Was is “Time enough for Love” that introduced Lazarus Long (sp)? One of my all time favorite characters.

Is that the one where the lead character goes into suspended animation for ten years, having visited the future, come back, bought a controlling interest in a penny stock he knows will be worth zillions in a decade, and made a pact with his eight-year-old “girlfriend” that she’ll wait for him to wake up when she’s eighteen?

Loved it!

170 Dainn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:23:48pm

I think I’ve read everything Heinlein has written, though most of his later stuff is soft-porn crap :)

My favorite: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. I also really enjoy his young adult novels (including Starship Troopers, Have Spacesuit will Travel).

171 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:00pm

re: #146 reine.de.tout

Where did you see that?

re: #94 lawhawk

[Link: lawhawk.blogspot.com…]

The NYT buried that part, and didn’t criticize the move, despite Obama railing on about how we needed to conserve energy and set our thermostats lower…

i heard it on hannity but here is lawhawks link.

172 UberInfidel67  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:06pm

re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans And those would be the same people who would give a soldier grief for doing what his CO told him to do. If it was something the lefties didn’t “approve” of, they would moan “why didn’t he just do the opposite!?” Blah blah blah It’s OK to question authority, just not The One’s authority.

173 thefallingman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:09pm

re: #158 Iron Fist

What he dreams of can only be speculated about right now, but I suspect that most of us here won’t like them.


Suspect? I know we won’t.

174 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:31pm

.re: #162 FurryOldGuyJeans

I wonder if they really want to be a Banana Republic with thinking like that.

After the last election, I wonder too

175 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:45pm

re: #160 LGoPs

And what’s to keep Holder from saying “I lied” or “You misunderstood” at some point down the road.
Am I too cynical?……..

And what makes you think the GOP politicians can’t do the same thing?

176 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:24:47pm

re: #159 yma o hyd

Oh-my-gawd.
Cripes.
Blimey.
Shaking head in disbelief …

(Gonna go down to level 11 now, one never knows …)

And they have even learned about the tunnel system. And here I was planning to use the Ft. Irwin to Mt. Shasta tunnel on our next family trip.

177 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:02pm

re: #155 opnion

Remeber he lectured us that we can’t coniinue eating as much as we want & keeping our thermostats at 72?

Oh yes!
So watch out for the food police - he’s only got to see how Gord is doing things here in the UK, and he’ll be off …

178 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:16pm

re: #156 jcm

Hell “Separation of Powers” for the civilian government isn’t understood, and civilians have little idea of what the whole military culture is anyway.

When Gitmo opeoned I looked some data on Military trials. They actually have a higher acquittal rate than civilian courts. My thought was a military jury or panel will be made of professionals who have more practice making dispassionate fact based decisions.

Would you quit bring that old outdated document up? The Constitution is nothing but a piece of paper some dead white guys wrote on.

////////////////////////////////////////////////

179 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:19pm

re: #145 karmic_inquisitor

OMG - another one has found out about our tunnel system under the southwest and our complex under Denver Airport.

Good thing - they only know about the first 7 levels and I work on level 8.

Evidence indicates that the Denver International Airport sits on top of a huge underground facility, with trains that connect to shelters in the mountains and possibly as far away as New Mexico, he stated.

We have a serious breach of security! Initiate security protocal Epsilon 435 Delta 4, lock down all levels and commence level 4 sweep.

180 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:41pm

re: #161 karmic_inquisitor

There was a strong desire to hold them for the duration of the conflict as you would POWs, but not recognize them as POWs. For many there was never any intention of giving them trials.

Well, that’s where I disagreed with the Bush administration. Where there was evidence, there should have been trials.

181 Dainn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:45pm

re: #138 OldLineTexan

Tunnel in the Sky was excellent. Survival school where kids are shipped to a planet and have to survive. If they do, they pass!

182 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:47pm
183 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:25:49pm

re: #168 OldLineTexan

Unfortunately the movie had nothing to do with the novella, and destroyed the character of Elijah Bailey while eliminating R. Daneel Olivaw completely. As much as I enjoyed Will Smith playing himself in a fair action flick, I was utterly disappointed. The Asimov “Robot” stories are far better, and there was room and material for sequels.

The movie I Robot was at least as faithful to the book as Lawnmower Man was to the short story.

184 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:26:19pm

re: #183 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The movie I Robot was at least as faithful to the book as Lawnmower Man was to the short story.

I skipped Lawnmower Man completely, so I would not know.

185 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:26:36pm

re: #163 reine.de.tout

It would be terrible for the country, imo, for this to get messy, so I hope it doesn’t.

However, if it does, I admit I’ll be sitting here smirking.

It doesn’t, as I see it, necessarily follow that it getting messy would be bad for the country. If it did it would blunt the thrust of O’s agenda, and that is something I see as good.

186 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:03pm

re: #167 reine.de.tout

I thought he’s been living in Illinois for several years now.

He has spent most of his life in the Midwest & Northeast.
The Hawaii thing is silly.

187 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:19pm

re: #177 yma o hyd

Oh yes!
So watch out for the food police - he’s only got to see how Gord is doing things here in the UK, and he’ll be off …


He won’t have to go that far. Didn’t Bloomberg want to tax fast food?

188 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:20pm

re: #162 FurryOldGuyJeans

Some people think that because military judges are part of the military, which is part of the Executive branch, that they MUST do whatever the president and the chain of command say. I wonder if they really want to be a Banana Republic with thinking like that.

People do not understand how gummint works.

I worked for a state agency in the Executive Branch that was, per the La. constitution, independent of “interference” from the gov or the legislature.

And so we could try to be cooperative; but bottom line, we had no legal requirement to do anything they asked of us to do.

189 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:27pm

With this President, perhaps the US is part of a new version of “The Story of ‘O’”—this time with the country being in bondage to foreign powers. Who does not see our sovereignty slipping away?

190 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:28pm

re: #170 Dainn

I think I’ve read everything Heinlein has written, though most of his later stuff is soft-porn crap :)

My favorite: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. I also really enjoy his young adult novels (including Starship Troopers, Have Spacesuit will Travel).

Moon was a good read. Been a while.

I’ve mostly been reading Dan Abnett for Sci-Fi the last few years.

191 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:47pm
192 Miss Molly  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:27:53pm

The first time I saw Barry in one of the Dems debates his likness to Mussolini came to mind especially in his body language. He is so arrogant and has had a “pass” on everything all his life. I think he has plans for “payback” for all the “insults” he believes he has suffered in his life. This guy has a very hidden agenda and will pay no attention to any rules that get in his way. Turn off the sound when he talks and watch his body language — every time I am struck how he resembles Mussolini.

193 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:12pm

re: #183 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The movie I Robot was at least as faithful to the book as Lawnmower Man was to the short story.

I haven’t read the book, but I was surprisingly pleased with I Robot as a movie.

194 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:14pm

re: #184 OldLineTexan

I skipped Lawnmower Man completely, so I would not know.

You missed nothing. The movie and the story shared nothing but a title.

195 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:33pm

re: #182 Iron Fist

That may be the only thing that saves us. If that saves us. I expected Obama to be the terrorist’s friend, but I didn’t anticipate him being quite this, well, open about it.

it is stunning what he is doing in broad day light.
makes you wonder what is going on under the cover of darkness.

196 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:38pm

re: #158 Iron Fist

It’s the arrogance, I think, that makes the men similar. Mussolini was a profoundly arrogant man who dreamed of restoring the Dictatorship of the Roman Empire, with himself as the Emporer. Obama is a profoundly arrogant man as well. What he dreams of can only be speculated about right now, but I suspect that most of us here won’t like them.

You’re spot on about the arrogance!
Its strange, letting images of those trhee 20th C dictators pass my mind, how Stalin and Hitler were a lot of horrible things, but arrogant like Mussolini, they weren’t.

If its a consolation - Mussolini wasn’t that effective at what he did, compared with the other two - lots of hot air, and facts on the ground have the disturbing habit of interfering with hot air …

197 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:44pm

re: #180 Cato the Elder

Well, that’s where I disagreed with the Bush administration. Where there was evidence, there should have been trials.

I don’t think they thought out the policy well up front. They tried to create a new legal status somewhere between POW, partisan and war criminal and simply baited allies with wobbly knees to turn on us.

198 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:28:59pm

re: #183 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The movie I Robot was at least as faithful to the book as Lawnmower Man was to the short story.

Asimov and Heinlein are hard authors for Hollywood to “get right”. They wrote about personal responsibility and reliance along with the geeky future science.

199 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:29:04pm

re: #187 eschew_obfuscation

fast food? I know he wants to tax soft drinks.

200 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:29:09pm
201 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:29:13pm

re: #179 jcm

Evidence indicates that the Denver International Airport sits on top of a huge underground facility, with trains that connect to shelters in the mountains and possibly as far away as New Mexico, he stated.

We have a serious breach of security! Initiate security protocal Epsilon 435 Delta 4, lock down all levels and commence level 4 sweep.

This is why we have undercover FBI lizards among us.
//

202 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:29:15pm

re: #180 Cato the Elder

Well, that’s where I disagreed with the Bush administration. Where there was evidence, there should have been trials.

We never tried any POWs in WWI or II—they were interned for the duration and repatriated after the war. The same is true for the terror “suspects” in Gitmo and other places.

203 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:29:16pm

re: #184 OldLineTexan

I skipped Lawnmower Man completely, so I would not know.

I still can’t forgive Stephen King for “Maximum Overdrive”.

204 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:15pm

re: #152 nyc redneck

So, in other words, he is go to a therapist to work through his problems instead of working them out during his current job assignment? LOL. I hate shrinks.

205 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:20pm

C-SPAN has live coverage of Gov. Blago’s trial in the IL. Senate. I have only had in on about 10 minutes and so far I have heard very little statements of support for the Gov. He’s done. Rumor is, his personal stuff is already boxed up at the Mansion.

206 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:21pm

re: #192 Miss Molly

The first time I saw Barry in one of the Dems debates his likness to Mussolini came to mind especially in his body language. He is so arrogant and has had a “pass” on everything all his life. I think he has plans for “payback” for all the “insults” he believes he has suffered in his life. This guy has a very hidden agenda and will pay no attention to any rules that get in his way. Turn off the sound when he talks and watch his body language — every time I am struck how he resembles Mussolini.

Sadly, there was not enough living memory left to remember that. Thirty years ago, he would have gotten no traction.

207 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:31pm

re: #185 FurryOldGuyJeans

It doesn’t, as I see it, necessarily follow that it getting messy would be bad for the country. If it did it would blunt the thrust of O’s agenda, and that is something I see as good.

I’d love to see the zero’s administration get messy.

208 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:36pm

re: #185 FurryOldGuyJeans

It doesn’t, as I see it, necessarily follow that it getting messy would be bad for the country. If it did it would blunt the thrust of O’s agenda, and that is something I see as good.

Maybe it wouldn’t be a bad thing.
It would be a distraction, I guess is what I was thinking, from other things that are important.

209 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:36pm

re: #176 karmic_inquisitor

And they have even learned about the tunnel system. And here I was planning to use the Ft. Irwin to Mt. Shasta tunnel on our next family trip.

Gotta get the secret Lizard defense system up and running, pronto!

210 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:30:45pm

re: #192 Miss Molly

The first time I saw Barry in one of the Dems debates his likness to Mussolini came to mind especially in his body language. He is so arrogant and has had a “pass” on everything all his life. I think he has plans for “payback” for all the “insults” he believes he has suffered in his life. This guy has a very hidden agenda and will pay no attention to any rules that get in his way. Turn off the sound when he talks and watch his body language — every time I am struck how he resembles Mussolini.

Really well said. I have believed for some time that the Obamas plan to punish this nation, especially the Middle Class.
They both have had things handed to them, yet they are bitter & resentful

211 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:31:11pm

re: #203 MrSilverDragon

I still can’t forgive Stephen King for “Maximum Overdrive”.

It did produce an AC/DC album, so it’s not all bad.

212 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:31:14pm

re: #202 calcajun

We never tried any POWs in WWI or II—they were interned for the duration and repatriated after the war. The same is true for the terror “suspects” in Gitmo and other places.

The inmates in Gitmo aren’t truly POWs; they were never in uniform,
I believe we tried the spies and saboteurs caught. That is a better example.

213 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:31:26pm

re: #203 MrSilverDragon

I still can’t forgive Stephen King for “Maximum Overdrive”.

Oh com’on. It was so bad it was good. The Coke machine that took out a little league team. At least it was not as bad as “The Happening”. eww.

214 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:31:30pm

re: #210 opnion

They both have had things handed to them, yet they are bitter & resentful

Indeed.

215 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:31:48pm

re: #192 Miss Molly

The first time I saw Barry in one of the Dems debates his likness to Mussolini came to mind especially in his body language. He is so arrogant and has had a “pass” on everything all his life. I think he has plans for “payback” for all the “insults” he believes he has suffered in his life. This guy has a very hidden agenda and will pay no attention to any rules that get in his way. Turn off the sound when he talks and watch his body language — every time I am struck how he resembles Mussolini.

He was very upfront and talkative about what his agenda is; the FMSM didn’t want to listen and so many Americans had not a clue.

216 Dainn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:32:23pm

re: #190 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’ve mostly been reading Dan Abnett for Sci-Fi the last few years.

Ah. The D in DnA. Haven’t read Dread in years, but my son likes the Warhammer stuff.

217 joncelli  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:32:24pm

re: #87 Nevergiveup

Yet another reason to raze the CIA and start over from the word go.

218 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:05pm

They know about the detainment camp!

5. Denver International Airport (also a detainment camp)
Function: Military research, construction, detainment camp facilities
Levels: 7 reported
Tunnels to: Denver proper, Colorado and Rocky Mountain “safehousing”, Colorado Springs, Colorado (Cheyenne Mtn.), Riverton, Wyoming Notes: Constructed in 1995, the government and politicians were hell bent on building this airport in spite of it ending up vastly overbudget. Charges of corruption, constant construction company changes, and mass firings of teams once they had built a section of their work was reported so that no “one” group had any idea what the blueprint of the airport was. Not only did locals not want this airport built nor was it needed, but everything was done to make sure it was, period. Masonic symbols and bizarre artwork of dead babies, burning cities and women in coffins comprise an extensive mural as well as a time capsule - none of which is featured in the airport’s web site section detailing the unique artwork throughout the building. DIA is reported to serve as a cover for the vast underground facilities that were built there. There are reports of electronic/magnetic vibrations which make some people sick and cause headaches in others. There are acres of fenced-in areas which have barbed wire pointing into the area as if to keep things in, and small concrete stacks that resemble mini-cooling towers rise out of the acres of nowhere to apparently vent underground levels.

219 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:06pm

re: #145 karmic_inquisitor

OMG - another one has found out about our tunnel system under the southwest and our complex under Denver Airport.

Good thing - they only know about the first 7 levels and I work on level 8.

/Denver Airport

220 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:15pm

re: #208 reine.de.tout

Maybe it wouldn’t be a bad thing.
It would be a distraction, I guess is what I was thinking, from other things that are important.

I don’t see O doing anything that a majority of Americans would consider important, really. Only the Leftoids would be pleased with what the man has said is his agenda.

221 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:19pm

re: #199 lawhawk

fast food? I know he wants to tax soft drinks.

O.K…maybe I’m conflating things…. Bloomberg likes fast food, New Jersey may want to tax it.

222 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:21pm

re: #197 karmic_inquisitor

I don’t think they thought out the policy well up front. They tried to create a new legal status somewhere between POW, partisan and war criminal and simply baited allies with wobbly knees to turn on us.

That surely seems to be the way it worked out. If you have confessed perpetrators, they ought to be tried. I realize the status was different for many of them. But KSM confessed.

And it is a sad fact that a number of these guys were scooped up when their neighbors/enemies/opportunists turned them in to get the bounty. Not everybody who was (and maybe still is) there should have been detained. We should have been able to figure that out sooner.

In my opinion.

223 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:29pm

re: #212 Kosh’s Shadow

The inmates in Gitmo aren’t truly POWs; they were never in uniform,
I believe we tried the spies and saboteurs caught. That is a better example.

I might agree, but those were summary trials —followed by summary executions. (Skorzeny’s troops caught in the Ardennes in 44-45). If you go down that line, you start getting into “Breaker Morant” territory.

224 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:35pm

re: #189 calcajun

With this President, perhaps the US is part of a new version of “The Story of ‘O’”—this time with the country being in bondage to foreign powers. Who does not see our sovereignty slipping away?

Have you had your beating today? (funniest line in the movie)

225 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:58pm
226 Dainn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:33:59pm

re: #203 MrSilverDragon

I still can’t forgive Stephen King for “Maximum Overdrive”.

King can’t forgive King for that movie. He admits it is his worst failure :)

227 Moonbat Serenade  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:34:16pm

re: #32 Honorary Yooper

There’s been a national overdose on hopium.
Wonder how bad the hangover’s gonna be.

Are hopium pipes made from Unicorn horns ?

228 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:34:33pm

re: #212 Kosh’s Shadow

The inmates in Gitmo aren’t truly POWs; they were never in uniform,
I believe we tried the spies and saboteurs caught. That is a better example.

Yet we didn’t do what is perfectly legal by the Geneva Conventions to un-uniformed combatants.

229 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:34:43pm

re: #210 opnion

Thats the typical mindset of the LLL.
They nearly always come from well-to-do, middle class families who have given them a better than average education.
So they basically dirty their own nest - and in the process se to it than nobody else will get the opportunities they themselves had.

230 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:35:05pm

re: #216 Dainn

Ah. The D in DnA. Haven’t read Dread in years, but my son likes the Warhammer stuff.

Gaunt’s Ghost, the Eisenhorn Trilogy, and the Horus Heresy books.

Though I do admit the Ciaphis Cain series is very amusing. Lets take the most grim dark violent sci-fi setting in existence today and set up a comedy in it. Its been great.

231 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:35:57pm

re: #224 Soona’

Have you had your beating today? (funniest line in the movie)

The doctor says I have to limit it to one a week. Ooops—sharing too much again.\\

232 Miss Molly  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:36:14pm

Unreconstructed Rebel — we have to re-educate as many people as we can to the history of Mussolini and others like him. Hopefully there will be a constant drum beat of reminders of who Mussolini was and what he did. That old lesson — learn from the past or ….

233 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:36:19pm

re: #218 karmic_inquisitor

They know about the detainment camp!

Omigawd - they found out about the troll enclosures!

234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:36:26pm

Aw, yeah! Iowahawk’s done it again.

Just because a culture has occasional problems with dysentery doesn’t mean it can’t produce sage nuggets of universal wisdom, suitable for framing. It is also wrong because it ignores the incredible merchandising opportunities. Just look at Hillary Clinton and Al Gore — what better way to show off your expansive intelligence and down-with-the-Other multicultural chops than quoting the occasional Third World tribal advice?



“The happy man has two chickens; the wise man shares one with the man who has none. The prudent man reports the happy man to the authorities, so they can wise him up.”
Cuban

“The tawny kitten writhes before the white snake.”
Mulleti

235 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:36:31pm

re: #205 chicagodudewhotrades

thanks for the tip

236 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:36:32pm

re: #127 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Quite a difference between reading Heinlein in ones teens as opposed to in ones 30s.

Or one’s fifties, for that matter. But most of his stuff stands the test of time, as science fiction.

As I get older, I’m more into history than futurology. My brother gave me the complete six-volume “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” for Christmas. A princely gift.

237 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:22pm

They found out about Dulce! Not Dulce! The Area 51 headfake has been compromised!

5: Dulce Base, New Mexico
While some are spending their time scrutinizing Area 51 and thinking that’s so important, Dulce is said to be the crown jewel that we’re all being distracted from; The Big Tamale

Function: Alien interface, Research of mind related functions, genetic experiments, mind control training and reprograming
Levels: 7 Known -
Level 1 - garage for street maintenance
Level 2 - garage for trains, shuttles, tunnel-boring machines and disc maintenance
Level 3 - everyone is weighed, in the nude, then given a jump suit uniform. The weight of the person is put on a computer I.D. card each day. Change in over three pounds requires a physical exam and X-ray.
Level 4 - Human research in ‘paranormal’ areas - mental telepathy, mind control, hypnosis, remote viewing, astral traveling - etc. The technology is apparently here to allow them to know how to manipulate the ‘Bioplasmic Body’ Development of a laser weapon that can remotely cause burns and discomfort on it’s target. They can lower your heartbeat with Deep Sleep ‘Delta Waves,’ induce a static shock, then reprogram, Via a Brain- Computer link.
Level 5 - Alien housing . “…The room is circular for the (electro- magnetic) generator is nearly 200 feet diameter and covers the fifth and sixth levels (extreme west south wing). There (are) five entrances (plus an escape trap door on the sixth floor) on each floor. Each portal has double door. The security is severe. Armed guards patrol constantly, and in addition to weight sensitive areas there (are) hand print and eye print stations. Here, is the device that powers the transfer of atoms.
Level 6 - Level 6 is privately called ‘Nightmare Hall’. It holds the genetic labs. Experiments done on fish, seals, birds, and mice that are vastly altered from their original, forms. There are multi- armed and multi-legged humans and several cages (and vats) of humanoid bat-like creatures up to 7- feet tall. Aliens have taught the humans a lot about genetics, things both useful and dangerous. Level 7 - Humans in cages here, usually drugged or dazed, sometimes crying out for help.
Level 7 is the worst. “Row after row of 1,000’s of humans & human-mixture remains in cold storage. Here too are embryos of humanoids in various stages of development. Also, many human children’s’ remains in storage vats. Who are (were) these people?”
Below Level 7 - Unknown other levels unexplored by humans. Aliens here. Exits into a vast underground cavern series, unexplored by humans, but suspected to be a huge alien culture area.

Tunnels to: Colorado Springs, Colorado Creed, Colorado Datil, N.M. Los Alamos. Page, Arizona Sandia Base Taos, NM
Notes: The Dulce installation (upper levels) was originally constructed by the RAND corp. There are reported to be over 3000 cameras at various high-security locations. Deep sections of the Complex may connect into a natural and extensive underground cave system, which is common in most of these locations

238 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:37pm

re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans

Some people can’t wrap their minds around that concept. They insist that being a military judge means one is required to do whatever the president and the chain of command says.

/that best not be directed at me, because I never said anything of the kind

239 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:44pm

re: #221 eschew_obfuscation

O.K…maybe I’m conflating things…. Bloomberg likes fast food, New Jersey may want to tax it.

It’s hard to keep track of all the nanny staters… there are so many of them… and they’re salivating over the porkfest to come.

240 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:37:47pm

re: #188 reine.de.tout

People do not understand how gummint works.

I worked for a state agency in the Executive Branch that was, per the La. constitution, independent of “interference” from the gov or the legislature.

And so we could try to be cooperative; but bottom line, we had no legal requirement to do anything they asked of us to do.

I’m all for cooperation. O tried using legal means to achieve what he wanted and got brought up short by a military judge who also did what was legal and refused the government’s request.

241 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:38:22pm

re: #236 Cato the Elder

Or one’s fifties, for that matter. But most of his stuff stands the test of time, as science fiction.

As I get older, I’m more into history than futurology. My brother gave me the complete six-volume “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” for Christmas. A princely gift.

Picked up Sherman’s Memoirs last week, hoping to get a chance to read it soon.

242 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:38:35pm

re: #191 WriterMom

George Mitchell is a Jew Hating Wanker In Love With Hamas

U.S. says open Gaza border to choke arms smuggling

Fuck for virginity!

243 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:38:59pm

re: #232 Miss Molly

Unreconstructed Rebel — we have to re-educate as many people as we can to the history of Mussolini and others like him. Hopefully there will be a constant drum beat of reminders of who Mussolini was and what he did. That old lesson — learn from the past or ….

Know what really scares me? Experience keeps a dear school & a fool will learn in no other. Let’s pray that our childrens’ learnin’ will not be as painful as it was for my parents generation.

244 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:39:04pm

re: #242 Alouette

My Bubbie never used that phrase!

245 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:05pm

re: #205 chicagodudewhotrades

C-SPAN has live coverage of Gov. Blago’s trial in the IL. Senate. I have only had in on about 10 minutes and so far I have heard very little statements of support for the Gov. He’s done. Rumor is, his personal stuff is already boxed up at the Mansion.

Blago did not even stay around after his presentation. If he is removed , he may not have had state transportation home, so he split Springpatch.

246 LGoPs  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:25pm

re: #200 Iron Fist

No. There is absolutely no reason to trust Holder. None whatsoever.

I know, I know. It’s just so frustrating to see the Republicans treating with this guy. And with Democrats in general. They seem to have no understanding that this is not an honorable opposition party that they face. This is a party that considers them the true enemy and will act accordingly, to include lying right to their faces. They are people who are so full of themselves and their self-righteous, self-anointed agenda that they will rationalize anything…anything it takes to defeat the evil republicans. What in the world will it take to make the republicans wake up….?
I know this is a rhetorical rant and won’t accomplish anything. I’m just so frustrated at being represented by people who don’t even know they’re in a knife fight…..

247 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:38pm

re: #113 karmic_inquisitor

The Larch

The….Lurch

248 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:46pm

re: #232 Miss Molly

Unreconstructed Rebel — we have to re-educate as many people as we can to the history of Mussolini and others like him. Hopefully there will be a constant drum beat of reminders of who Mussolini was and what he did. That old lesson — learn from the past or ….

The problem is that Mussolini made the trains run on time, then he started curtailing civil liberties. If O delivers on his promises and we emerge from the recession, then he will pull off the mask.

249 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:40:50pm

re: #240 FurryOldGuyJeans

I’m all for cooperation. O tried using legal means to achieve what he wanted and got brought up short by a military judge who also did what was legal and refused the government’s request.

yes, exactly.
I’m amazed that the O as well as his supposedly experienced staff did not realize that he could make everything go his way via Executive Order.

250 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:41:12pm

re: #218 karmic_inquisitor

They know about the detainment camp!

There are reports of electronic/magnetic vibrations which make some people sick and cause headaches in others.

I experienced that at Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta. It’s the wands and walkthrough metal detectors.

251 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:41:34pm

re: #247 Bloodnok

The….Lurch

I always thought he looked more like Herman Munster.

252 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:41:59pm

re: #225 WriterMom

This is Iraqi gratitude: Town Reveals Sculpture in Honour of Shoe Thrower.

Assholes.

look at that laughable big crude flat footed shoe ‘sculpture’/planter.
lol, ridiculous and those dumb cretins who call it art.

253 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:01pm

re: #247 Bloodnok

The….Lurch

Next…The Spanish Inquisition…

254 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:01pm

re: #234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I like this one:

“The loyal dog feasts, but the treacherous cat no can haz cheezburgr.”
Hungarian

:-)))

(Don’t tell the goddess!)

255 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:07pm

re: #249 reine.de.tout

yes, exactly.
I’m amazed that the O as well as his supposedly experienced staff did not realize that he could make everything go his way via Executive Order.

But Obama is still going to get his way if he wants to. He will tell the pentagon to dismiss the charges.

256 jcbunga  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:37pm

re: #96 jcm

Has anyone linked this story yet?

Report: Barack Obama’s Al Qaida initiative began months before his election

re: #246 LGoPs


I know this is a rhetorical rant and won’t accomplish anything. I’m just so frustrated at being represented by people who don’t even know they’re in a knife fight…..

I feel the same. I’m a little more hopeful after yesterday’s shutout vote, but the RINO’s need to be smacked into holding their ground.

Until then, The One has inspired me to be…..smarter

257 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:47pm

re: #247 Bloodnok

The….Lurch

Did you know he served in Vietnam? Just though you oughta know. ;)

258 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:50pm

re: #251 MrSilverDragon

I always thought he looked more like Herman Munster.

Lurch, and Silky Pony.
… but I tend to agree with you.

259 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:42:51pm

Report: Peres apologizes to Erdogan for Davos incident

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Why?

260 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:12pm

re: #247 Bloodnok

The….Lurch

Wasn’t he in Vietnam?

261 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:13pm

re: #236 Cato the Elder

Or one’s fifties, for that matter. But most of his stuff stands the test of time, as science fiction.

As I get older, I’m more into history than futurology. My brother gave me the complete six-volume “Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” for Christmas. A princely gift.

Wow!
A princely gift indeed!

Am a bit green with envy …

262 Miss Molly  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:28pm

Unreconstructed Rebel — Sadly I fear we are becoming a nation that has dumbed down so much I wonder if we can ever reverse the process. The consequences from this dumbing down will possibly be more pain than we can handle.

263 carefulnow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:31pm

OT These hopin’ threads make this song come to mind:

264 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:50pm

re: #229 yma o hyd

Thats the typical mindset of the LLL.
They nearly always come from well-to-do, middle class families who have given them a better than average education.
So they basically dirty their own nest - and in the process se to it than nobody else will get the opportunities they themselves had.

Right, Obama has never really had to strive, it has always been there from him. He is President of the Harvard Law Review, yet he does not submit even one article?

265 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:43:51pm

re: #255 Nevergiveup

But Obama is still going to get his way if he wants to. He will tell the pentagon to dismiss the charges.

Well, that would be one way to do it.
But we need to wait and see what he does.

266 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:44:23pm

re: #240 FurryOldGuyJeans

I’m all for cooperation. O tried using legal means to achieve what he wanted and got brought up short by a military judge who also did what was legal and refused the government’s request.

Amd now the military procecutor will just be ordered to drop the charges without prejudice, same outcome.

/tribunal stops

267 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:44:31pm

re: #257 FurryOldGuyJeans

Did you know he served in Vietnam? Just though you oughta know. ;)

Ted Cassidy was in Vietnam? Wow!

/

268 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:44:51pm
269 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:44:55pm

re: #250 Alouette

I experienced that at Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta. It’s the wands and walkthrough metal detectors.

So much for Jimmy Connors and his goddamn magno-threapy whatsits. No wonder birthrates are down; we’re walking through too many stupid EMF’s and getting sterilized in the process. Coincidence? I think not!\

270 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:44:58pm

re: #252 nyc redneck

I know. But even if they got fricking Picasso (yes I know he’s dead) to do one, it’s disgusting that those bastards are lionizing that disrespectful, primitive jihadi SOB who threw the shoe.

271 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:03pm

re: #248 calcajun

The problem is that Mussolini made the trains run on time, then he started curtailing civil liberties. If O delivers on his promises and we emerge from the recession, then he will pull off the mask.

And then it’s: Behold. Our Dear Leader.

272 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:12pm

BTW - who is working level 3 this week?

Level 3 - everyone is weighed, in the nude, then given a jump suit uniform. The weight of the person is put on a computer I.D. card each day. Change in over three pounds requires a physical exam and X-ray.

273 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:16pm

re: #253 calcajun

Next…The Spanish Inquisition…

lurch is cuter than kerry.

274 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:36pm

re: #257 FurryOldGuyJeans

Did you know he served in Vietnam? Just though you oughta know. ;)

The memory is “seared ” into his memory.

275 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:46pm

re: #266 Killian Bundy

Amd … prosecutor

/PI NOT MF

276 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:47pm

re: #264 opnion

As far as I can recall, he has absolutely no academic publications to his credit. NONE. I don’t think he has any mainstream articles (opinion, analysis, etc..) in his name either.

277 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:49pm

re: #249 reine.de.tout

yes, exactly.
I’m amazed that the O as well as his supposedly experienced staff did not realize that he could make everything go his way via Executive Order.

I am not amazed he thought he would always get his way. That seems to be an essential part of the man’s character; he’s always right and will get what he wants without actually working for it.

He reaction to being balked by the House Republicans, and now this blunting of his Gitmo EO, is so illustrative of the man’s Hubris.

278 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:45:58pm

re: #242 Alouette


I agree 100% that the crossings should be open.

Between Egypt and Gaza.

Egypt. Arabs.
Gaza. Arabs.
Israel. Not Arabs.

BBL

279 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:04pm

re: #259 Nevergiveup

Report: Peres apologizes to Erdogan for Davos incident

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Why?

Had his arm twisted behind closed doors?

280 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:15pm

re: #237 karmic_inquisitor

They found out about Dulce! Not Dulce! The Area 51 headfake has been compromised!

OMG! LOL! That’s awesome. Where did you get this?

LOVE the part about “mental telepathy”. What other kind of telepathy is there, scrotal?

They can lower your heartbeat with Deep Sleep ‘Delta Waves,’ induce a static shock, then reprogram, Via a Brain- Computer link.

Ah, yes, like the one I got from Computer City.

Here, is the device that powers the transfer of atoms.

Atom transfer. Not atom transfer! [Munches on duck leg.] What evil will they think of next?

Never mind:

There are multi- armed and multi-legged humans and several cages (and vats) of humanoid bat-like creatures up to 7- feet tall.

Eesh! We’re doomed. Doomed! Run in circles, scream and shout!

Note, however, that they didn’t detect any lizards. Means they haven’t penetrated to the heart of the plot yet. We’re still safe, for now.

281 Miss Molly  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:18pm

Oh Calcajun — how right you are! In a second term with no one to put the brakes on Obama then he will absolutely rip off the mask and get to his true core.

282 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:19pm

re: #264 opnion

Right, Obama has never really had to strive, it has always been there from him. He is President of the Harvard Law Review, yet he does not submit even one article?

No personal experience here, but from what I’ve been reading, it sounds like Harvard is more about appearances than actual legal scholarship……very tough to get into unless you have enough money and/or know the right people, but pretty easy academically once you’re in.

Anyone with first-hand experience?

283 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:29pm

re: #61 Killian Bundy

Mitchell: Open Gaza crossings with PA

/is he kidding?

That’s part of the suggest peace plan that Hamas does not accept. The borders would be controlled by Fatah, the Egyptians, Israel and maybe international forces.

284 jcbunga  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:29pm

re: #253 calcajun

Next…The Spanish Inquisition…

NO one expects the Spanish Inquisition…

285 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:31pm

re: #245 opnion

I never thought about that. Yeah, makes sense. The second the vote happens, he is a private citizen pretty much, no more planes or car rides at gov expense

286 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:46:53pm

If Rove is going to be investigated for the firing of Fed. Prosecutors, does that mean Obama is going to keep all the ones that worked under the Bush Admin.?

287 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:47:06pm

re: #274 opnion

The memory is “seared ” into his memory.

Let us not forget about Jenjis Khan.

288 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:47:26pm

re: #270 WriterMom

Afternoon WriterMom. I have to agree with you a bit. You still have to look at it this way. We freed them to make any choice they want. Sometimes they will make wrong choices, and bad ones even. At least they are free to do what they want and sometimes even learn when they make mistakes.

289 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:47:35pm
290 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:47:53pm

re: #272 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - who is working level 3 this week?

What is this? Are you talking about Level 3 communications? Do you have a link for this?

291 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:05pm

re: #264 opnion

Right, Obama has never really had to strive, it has always been there from him. He is President of the Harvard Law Review, yet he does not submit even one article?

Yes - odd, but were the MFM interested in that?

And will we now ever get to see his Harvard records? His medical records? Anything at all?

292 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:10pm

re: #271 Soona’

And then it’s: Behold. Our Dear Leader.


You won’t know for sure until he brings out the mandatory uniforms. I mean, if you see him in a military get-up with jodhpurs and a Sam Browne belt, then be afraid. If it’s the geeky-looking Nation of Islam bow-ties…we’ll get a good chuckle before we’re shipped off to the re-education camps.

293 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:27pm

There is an Illinois State Senator speaking now referring to the Great State of Illinois as the “Land of Lincoln & the Land of Obama”
By they way the town of Cicero is in his district. Tony Soprano would love Cicero.

294 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:37pm

Time to call it a day. Godspeed, all.

295 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:48:44pm

re: #280 Cato the Elder

It is all here - List of US Underground Bases

Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!

296 rightside  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:05pm

Afternoon Lizards.

297 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:06pm

re: #266 Killian Bundy

Amd now the military procecutor will just be ordered to drop the charges without prejudice, same outcome.

/tribunal stops

Sorry, that will NEVER happen, ever. The president has NO authority to tell a military judge what to do when it comes to the proceedings in court. The chain of command MAY drop the charges, which then invalidates the judge’s ruling so we are right back to the same hearings have stopped outcome.

What is going on at Gitmo are hearings, not tribunals.

298 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:09pm

re: #223 calcajun

I might agree, but those were summary trials —followed by summary executions. (Skorzeny’s troops caught in the Ardennes in 44-45). If you go down that line, you start getting into “Breaker Morant” territory.

I was thinking about those caught in the US

299 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:14pm

re: #284 jcbunga

NO one expects the Spanish Inquisition…

Well, their chief weapon is suprise

300 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:17pm

re: #290 Walter L. Newton

What is this? Are you talking about Level 3 communications? Do you have a link for this?

Never mind. That’s what happens when I jump into the middle of a thread.

301 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:21pm
302 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:28pm

re: #276 WriterMom

As far as I can recall, he has absolutely no academic publications to his credit. NONE. I don’t think he has any mainstream articles (opinion, analysis, etc..) in his name either.

I said it during the campaign; we’ve elected Chauncey/Chance the Gardener —but with an attitude.

303 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:39pm

re: #261 yma o hyd

Wow!
A princely gift indeed!

Am a bit green with envy …

That’s the color of the binding, in fact.

I’ll let you borrow when I get done. That should be in about … 1011 or so. I’m a multiple-book-at-a-time reader, so I won’t make it through any faster..

304 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:49:58pm

re: #277 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am not amazed he thought he would always get his way. That seems to be an essential part of the man’s character; he’s always right and will get what he wants without actually working for it.

He reaction to being balked by the House Republicans, and now this blunting of his Gitmo EO, is so illustrative of the man’s Hubris.

You are correct of course.
I seem to keep making the mistake of thinking rationally instead of thinking like the O.

305 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:07pm

re: #295 karmic_inquisitor

It is all here - List of US Underground Bases

Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!

Nothing in Colorado. Say that over and over… no bases in Colorado… no bases in Colorado… no bases in Colorado…

306 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:08pm

re: #287 karmic_inquisitor

Let us not forget about Jenjis Khan.

Or Nixon sending him into Cambodia in 1968 (my personal favorite)

307 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:14pm

re: #290 Walter L. Newton

What is this? Are you talking about Level 3 communications? Do you have a link for this?

Sorry - riffing off of a link upthread. The link.

Looks like most of the facilities in Colorado are compromised, Walter. The tunnels too. Time to dig some new ones.

308 Joan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:24pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

Charles, have you seen this yet?

Judge rejects Obama bid to stall Gitmo trial.

Administration shocked!

Whoooo-eeee! The Prom King not gonna like that. Nope—they better watch out, he’s meaner than catshit on a shoestring, a ferocious Warbler.

309 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:34pm

re: #288 BlueCanuck

A dilemma. I get really upset about displays of ingratitude…especially when our soldiers are there, putting their lives on the line. Especially when they defer to sharia to punish the innocents.

310 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:35pm

re: #272 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - who is working level 3 this week?

I’m assigned to level 4, Chem trail operations (he didn’t find out about us HA).
I take my lunch break in the level 3 viewing room.

311 yochanan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:37pm

re: #205 chicagodudewhotrades

I have had it on for two hours there hasn’t been one in support of him

312 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:37pm

re: #304 reine.de.tout

You are correct of course.
I seem to keep making the mistake of thinking rationally instead of thinking like the O.

I wouldn’t stop being rational if I were you. ;)

313 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:39pm

re: #300 Walter L. Newton

Never mind. That’s what happens when I jump into the middle of a thread.

Talkin’ to yourself, Walter?

314 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:50:40pm

re: #291 yma o hyd

Yes - odd, but were the MFM interested in that?

And will we now ever get to see his Harvard records? His medical records? Anything at all?

His medical records? I’d say “Captain, this man is a Klingon”, but no Klingon is that wimpy.

315 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:01pm

re: #293 opnion


Wasn’t Cicero the city of that female mayor who got busted? The one with all the make-up? Betty Maltese? Some name like that?

316 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:06pm

re: #264 opnion

Right, Obama has never really had to strive, it has always been there from him. He is President of the Harvard Law Review, yet he does not submit even one article?

he has never had to work for anything. his handlers paved the way for him in chicago and all thru the campaign he was carried by the msm and his puppet masters.
yes now, he is going to have problems when he meets w/ resistance.
he has no experience in dealing w/ opposition.
how arrogant for him to bill himself as the great unifier.
quite absurd. he has no idea how to bring anyone or anything together.
he made a fool of himself reaching out to ropers on al-arabiya.
they are mocking him.

317 UberInfidel67  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:08pm

re: #295 karmic_inquisitor
The scary ones are the ones that say “function unknown”!

318 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:10pm

re: #298 Kosh’s Shadow

I was thinking about those caught in the US

Me, too. The Germans spies and saboteurs caught in the US were tried and executed—fairly quickly.

319 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:15pm

re: #306 jwb7605

Or Nixon sending him into Cambodia in 1968 (my personal favorite)

The Magic Hat.

320 Miss Molly  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:24pm

Maybe it is just me but I don’t believe that Obama is as “smart” as he would like everyone to believe. He got into Harvard because he was sponsered by “friends”. I don’t think he wrote an article for the Harvard Law Review because he doesn’t have the ability and it would be way to obvious that he doesn’t have that intellectual ability. He has always skated by on charm and the race card. I just don’t see any “great mind” of Obama.

321 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:26pm

re: #282 eschew_obfuscation

No personal experience here, but from what I’ve been reading, it sounds like Harvard is more about appearances than actual legal scholarship……very tough to get into unless you have enough money and/or know the right people, but pretty easy academically once you’re in.

Anyone with first-hand experience?


Yeah, I have heard that too about Harvard. But to my point, any President of Law Review at any Law School would submit an article.

322 Opinionated  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:27pm

re: #2 WriterMom

Oh…thank Obama for this blessed open thread.

Rabbi, is there a proper blessing for the One?

Of course. May the lord bless and keep the One .. . far away from us.


/Fiddler

323 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:34pm

re: #300 Walter L. Newton

Never mind. That’s what happens when I jump into the middle of a thread.

Thank you for looking stupid for me.
I was about ready to do the same thing.

324 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:42pm

re: #286 n in wi

If Rove is going to be investigated for the firing of Fed. Prosecutors, does that mean Obama is going to keep all the ones that worked under the Bush Admin.?

I’ve been waiting for that shoe to drop …. to see how mightily the MFM try to ignore it.

325 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:55pm

re: #307 karmic_inquisitor

Sorry - riffing off of a link upthread. The link.

Looks like most of the facilities in Colorado are compromised, Walter. The tunnels too. Time to dig some new ones.

Stimulus… whoopee…

326 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:51:58pm

re: #311 yochanan

I have had it on for two hours there hasn’t been one in support of him

Hey, Yochanan.
You need to look at what’s on the table in the picture here.

327 WriterMom  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:01pm

re: #316 nyc redneck

Exactly. Ayers identified him as an easy sell to the masses…and the rest is history.

328 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:03pm

re: #319 karmic_inquisitor

The Magic Hat.

More like a time machine.

329 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:05pm

re: #309 WriterMom

It happens. If we are lucky that whole area may be more stable then before just because we went in and cleaned it up.

330 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:22pm

re: #323 jwb7605

Thank you for looking stupid for me.
I was about ready to do the same thing.

Are you in the underground base outside of Boulder?

331 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:27pm

re: #317 UberInfidel67

The scary ones are the ones that say “function unknown”!

Can only mean one thing - Alien/Masonic/Zionist conspiracy.

332 BBev  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:46pm

re: #225 WriterMom

This is Iraqi gratitude: Town Reveals Sculpture in Honour of Shoe Thrower.

Assholes.

I wonder how they will feel if Obama cuts and runs before they are ready, I have to wonder how they will feel if someone throws a shoe at Imadinnerjacket there new overlord if we do cut and run to soon? I’m sure they won’t be laughing as they are in the picture!

333 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:52pm

Fools. The Colorado bases are just a distraction from the real bases in… No, I’ve said too much already.

334 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:52:52pm

re: #322 Opinionated

Rabbi, is there a proper blessing for the One?

Of course. May the lord bless and keep the One .. . far away from us.

/Fiddler

Just remember, no matter where you go, there’s the czar.

335 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:53:08pm

re: #293 opnion

There is an Illinois State Senator speaking now referring to the Great State of Illinois as the “Land of Lincoln & the Land of Obama”
By they way the town of Cicero is in his district. Tony Soprano would love Cicero.

You misunderstood.
It was the land of Omaha and Lincoln,Nebraska

336 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:53:12pm

re: #319 karmic_inquisitor

The Magic Hat.

How in the hell do Massachusetts voters pull the lever for that guy without snickering?

337 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:53:15pm

re: #303 Cato the Elder

That’s the color of the binding, in fact.

I’ll let you borrow when I get done. That should be in about … 1011 or so. I’m a multiple-book-at-a-time reader, so I won’t make it through any faster..

Heh.
One of those, are ye?
Me too.
There are ‘downstairs’ books and ‘upstairs’ books …
Mind - being on LGF is rather detrimental to reading time …

338 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:53:47pm

re: #311 yochanan

I have had it on for two hours there hasn’t been one in support of him


Have you noticed that every Democrat makes a reference to Obama?
Hey Obama & Emanuel helped to get Blago elected!

339 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:02pm

re: #321 opnion

Yeah, I have heard that too about Harvard. But to my point, any President of Law Review at any Law School would submit an article.

One would certainly expect so!

340 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:02pm

re: #320 Miss Molly

Maybe it is just me but I don’t believe that Obama is as “smart” as he would like everyone to believe. He got into Harvard because he was sponsered by “friends”. I don’t think he wrote an article for the Harvard Law Review because he doesn’t have the ability and it would be way to obvious that he doesn’t have that intellectual ability. He has always skated by on charm and the race card. I just don’t see any “great mind” of Obama.

I would go so far as to say that it wasn’t even friends that got the man into Harvard. It was out and out a quota appointment.

341 kcladderman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:08pm

re: #265 reine.de.tout

Hey reine was just browsing the other threads and saw the cook book looks great. Can’t wait to order mine.

342 UberInfidel67  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:23pm

re: #320 Miss Molly
He has simply learned to harness the power of “BULLSHIT”.

343 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:23pm

re: #307 karmic_inquisitor

Sorry - riffing off of a link upthread. The link.

Looks like most of the facilities in Colorado are compromised, Walter. The tunnels too. Time to dig some new ones.

Well, the hatchlings can show their mettle here - let them start digging!

344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:42pm

Is it possible that I have seen the same quote on a thread before? Never been more appropriate than it is now, but is it possible?

345 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:52pm

re: #320 Miss Molly

More sly than brilliant. Then again, I never saw the genius of the Clintons either.Slick, sneaky, arrogant, condescending, yes.

346 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:54:59pm

re: #323 jwb7605

Thank you for looking stupid for me.
I was about ready to do the same thing.

It shows you how much my mind is on a programming job all the time. Level 3 hires, layoffs, hires, layoffs… it’s a revolving door.

And it shoots itself in the foot all the time. In the past 5 years, twice I have had some short term contract work with companies that were started by past Level 3 employees.

347 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:55:01pm

re: #297 FurryOldGuyJeans

Sorry, that will NEVER happen, ever. The president has NO authority to tell a military judge what to do when it comes to the proceedings in court. The chain of command MAY drop the charges, which then invalidates the judge’s ruling so we are right back to the same hearings have stopped outcome.

What is going on at Gitmo are hearings, not tribunals.

/you’re not a lawyer are you?

348 snopercod  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:55:08pm

re: #83 DisturbedEma

Here’s a link (with photo): A Hypocrite? Moi, Barack?

349 UberInfidel67  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:55:16pm

re: #331 karmic_inquisitor
Well OBVIOUSLY! Duh!

350 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:55:18pm

re: #301 Iron Fist

I agree with you. Even when they do fight, they are badly overmatched now. I just got an email about some legislation that just passed the House on a party-line vote. We’re not sure how it is going to effect us yet, but it is huge amounts of money being thrown at the health care industry from government coffers. Of course, this will be small potatoes if Obama socializes the entire Medical Industry US economy.

351 Moonbat Serenade  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:02pm

re: #145 karmic_inquisitor

OMG - another one has found out about our tunnel system under the southwest and our complex under Denver Airport.

Good thing - they only know about the first 7 levels and I work on level 8.

I just finished watching those videos. My tinfoil hat started sparking wildly and scared the Unicorn so bad that now I have a big, steaming pile of skittles on the carpet.

352 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:06pm

re: #330 Walter L. Newton

Are you in the underground base outside of Boulder?

Yup. Had to bring the cats in this morning … Commie Coyote running the ditch. Neighborhood sentry actually knocked on my door with the info!

353 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:08pm

re: #344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Is it possible that I have seen the same quote on a thread before? Never been more appropriate than it is now, but is it possible?

And it’s possible that you have been drinking too much already today, and this is not even happening.
/

354 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:16pm

re: #325 Walter L. Newton

Stimulus… whoopee…

Well that Telluride tunnel is sweet. Took the kids on a ski trip a couple years back - went through the Ft Irwin entrance to Page, AZ, caught the tunnel to Roswell NM, overshot to Cheyenne, WY but backtracked to Telluride via the Denver Airport (where I picked up my Zionist conspiracy check, thanks Charles). Tunnel travel is the only way to go, but the views get a bit “boring”

355 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:56:37pm

re: #295 karmic_inquisitor

It is all here - List of US Underground Bases

Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!

OMG OMG! Where can I go to escape?

MARYLAND:
Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland (from Don)
Martins AFB, Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland

Don wrote: I was just looking at your satellite photo of the chem trails over the East Coast (Maryland in particular), and I noticed a strange coincidence. I’m from Maryland and I noticed that the two streaks over the state seem to run next to major military installations. The more eastern of the two runs over Aberdeen Proving Ground, Edgewood Arsenal, and Martins AFB. The more western of the two runs near Ft. Meade. Aberdeen Proving Ground and Edgewood Arsenal seem to have a lot of strange or peculiar things about them as well. I live near both and often can hear the weapons testing. I know for a fact that there are large storages of chemical weapons at Edgewood. In high school, we had to do pressurization drills once a month where the entire school would pile into the gym and we would seal the gym and pressurize it to keep the gas out. There are sirens all over the community they test once a week (every Wed. at 4) that are to alert of potential chemical weapons leaks. There is constant military air traffic all over the area, and chemtrails are a regular occurrence (until I was about 18, I thought it was normal for contrails to stay for at least 6 hours!). These two bases are always heavily guarded and secured, even before 9/11. One of my friend’s dad is an army chemist out there, and he is not allowed to even discuss what he does. The only way I knew that he was a chemist was because he is a doctor and the insignia on his uniform is from the chemical corps. He is very secretive and often disappears late at night to go to work, apparently at a moment’s notice (he has two pagers, a govt. one and his regular one). Aberdeen Proving Grounds is the United States’ largest military testing facility, and Edgewood Arsenal is it’s largest store of arms. I could fill a book with the peculiarities of these two installations.

Thank you, Don, for opening my eyes. Now I know where these headaches are coming from.

But WTF are “chem trails”?

356 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:57:27pm

re: #353 Walter L. Newton

*hic*… i dunno wush u r talkjn aboot.

357 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:57:29pm

re: #343 yma o hyd

Well, the hatchlings can show their mettle here - let them start digging!

He’s only found out about levels 1 -7, we can move critical operations to other levels. Remember the the nitrogen filled chamber is on level xx [deleted for security reasons]. The south expansion complex is about complete. Plenty of room over there.

358 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:57:44pm

re: #343 yma o hyd

Well, the hatchlings can show their mettle here - let them start digging!

Remember last year when the hatchlings dug right into that anti-gravity chamber!

ROTCLMAO!

359 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:57:59pm

re: #346 Walter L. Newton

It shows you how much my mind is on a programming job all the time. Level 3 hires, layoffs, hires, layoffs… it’s a revolving door.

And it shoots itself in the foot all the time. In the past 5 years, twice I have had some short term contract work with companies that were started by past Level 3 employees.

If Obama cuts loose with some gummint money to start companies, we need to talk.

360 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:58:05pm

re: #320 Miss Molly

Maybe it is just me but I don’t believe that Obama is as “smart” as he would like everyone to believe. He got into Harvard because he was sponsered by “friends”. I don’t think he wrote an article for the Harvard Law Review because he doesn’t have the ability and it would be way to obvious that he doesn’t have that intellectual ability. He has always skated by on charm and the race card. I just don’t see any “great mind” of Obama.


But,he reads one helluva teleprompter.

361 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:58:20pm

re: #355 Cato the Elder

Thank you, Don, for opening my eyes. Now I know where these headaches are coming from.

But WTF are “chem trails”?

Moonbat farts.

362 Joan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:58:56pm

re: #298 Kosh’s Shadow

I was thinking about those caught in the US

Ah, but then we were at war, in a big war, a real war. The Prom King, the Warbler King, thinks we’re engaged in “The Case Against Terror,” he don’t like this “War on Terror” stuff. “Arrest that man! Arrest that man!” I gotta find the lizard who posted, and give a trademark note to ‘m

363 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:59:02pm

re: #358 karmic_inquisitor

Remember last year when the hatchlings dug right into that anti-gravity chamber!

ROTCLMAO!

Heh.

Which reminds me - where are the hatchlings?
Anybody seen any?

364 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:59:12pm

re: #301 Iron Fist

I agree with you. Even when they do fight, they are badly overmatched now. I just got an email about some legislation that just passed the House on a party-line vote. We’re not sure how it is going to effect us yet, but it is huge amounts of money being thrown at the health care industry from government coffers. Of course, this will be small potatoes if Obama socializes the entire Medical Industry.

The government has been throwing obscenely large wads of cash at the medical establishment for a long time now. That’s how they support all of the junk science you keep seeing about how bad our health is and the government agency/agenda efforts to curb our horrible behavior.

365 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:59:38pm

re: #355 Cato the Elder

But WTF are “chem trails”?

Courtesy of Educate Yourself.

366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 1:59:41pm

re: #363 yma o hyd

Stage fright.

367 jcbunga  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:00:05pm

re: #363 yma o hyd

Heh.

Which reminds me - where are the hatchlings?
Anybody seen any?

They are riveted staring at the ShamWow display

368 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:00:15pm

re: #360 n in wi

But,he reads one helluva teleprompter.

Makes him look shifty, though … right-left-right-left, not good enough!

369 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:00:24pm

re: #363 yma o hyd

Heh.

Which reminds me - where are the hatchlings?
Anybody seen any?

Check Level 9

370 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:07pm

re: #354 karmic_inquisitor

Well that Telluride tunnel is sweet. Took the kids on a ski trip a couple years back - went through the Ft Irwin entrance to Page, AZ, caught the tunnel to Roswell NM, overshot to Cheyenne, WY but backtracked to Telluride via the Denver Airport (where I picked up my Zionist conspiracy check, thanks Charles). Tunnel travel is the only way to go, but the views get a bit “boring”

First time I found out my ex-wife had Typhlology (fear of tunnels) was in France. We were in eastern France, headed to the alps, and she was driving a rental (I was too drunk to drive) and we started to hit those moderately long tunnels. The first one was just under a mile long and she froze up inside. She made it through, but it was like having a corpse holding on the the wheel.

Never in the first 9 years of our marriage had we ever had to drive through a tunnel that long. We have a few right outside of Golden, but you can see the end. She’s alright if she can see the exit.

371 Miss Molly  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:08pm

n i wi — I would like to know who is writing Obama’s speeches. You are right — he reads one hell of a teleprompter but can’t put 2 sentences together by himself. And, when asked somewhat hard questions he has to have someone else answer for him or simply doesn’t answer the question at all.

372 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:11pm

re: #270 WriterMom

I know. But even if they got fricking Picasso (yes I know he’s dead) to do one, it’s disgusting that those bastards are lionizing that disrespectful, primitive jihadi SOB who threw the shoe.

it is disgusting.
i’m laughing at the low-lifes who love this fcker.
they find this stupid shoe, suitable for public art and that makes the farce complete.

373 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:24pm

re: #366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Stage fright.

Awww …. bless …

;-)

374 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:24pm

re: #365 karmic_inquisitor

Courtesy of Educate Yourself.

Just when I thought it couldn’t get any wierder …
That, on top of Blago this morning!

375 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:28pm

re: #347 Killian Bundy

/you’re not a lawyer are you?

Oh, I misunderstood what you wrote earlier. You said prosecutor and I read judge. My bad.

376 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:33pm

re: #363 yma o hyd

Well one was doing bar duty last night. Mixing up some fine drinks. I think s/he even cleaned up some egg shells. Oh yeah, nice avatar too. Name of LauraO I think.

377 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:34pm

re: #355 Cato the Elder

Thank you, Don, for opening my eyes. Now I know where these headaches are coming from.

But WTF are “chem trails”?

My Division….,

378 rightside  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:42pm

Nothing heard, out.

379 Joan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:01:50pm

re: #293 opnion

There is an Illinois State Senator speaking now referring to the Great State of Illinois as the “Land of Lincoln & the Land of Obama”
By they way the town of Cicero is in his district. Tony Soprano would love Cicero.

They have no shame, vapid, feckless fools with their specious delusions of grandeur. They bear the Mark of Zero!

380 kcladderman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:02:03pm

re: #305 Walter L. Newton

Nothing in Colorado. Say that over and over… no bases in Colorado… no bases in Colorado… no bases in Colorado…

The one in Kansas City KS is huge! The entrance is 9 miles east of Kansas

381 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:02:21pm

re: #369 karmic_inquisitor

Check Level 9

LEVEL 9!? They don’t have the keys to the wine / beer cellar do they?

382 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:11pm

re: #321 opnion

Yeah, I have heard that too about Harvard. But to my point, any President of Law Review at any Law School would submit an article.

Any President but the O. Can’t actually have a record he might have to defend in the future, you know.

383 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:12pm

re: #359 jwb7605

If Obama cuts loose with some gummint money to start companies, we need to talk.

He’s not going to give anything away that will benefit a private business. Unless it’s in some “green” scam.

384 Miss Molly  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:19pm

jcm — you made me spill my coffee laughing so hard!

385 yma o hyd  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:24pm

Gotta go, Lizards, Madame Dog has done her preliminary stretches and is ready for action!

Seeya tomorrow, all being well, and hatchlings, you can come out now!

386 MrMisanthrope  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:03:38pm

“Although President Obama could not attend the event, Vice President Joe Biden and his wife, Jill, dropped by to express the nation’s gratitude for the sacrifices and heroism of these 47 veterans, and for all veterans and servicemembers.”

[Link: www.legion.org…]

Could not? Could not? Try WOULD NOT. HE DOESN’T DESERVE YOUR COVER STORY!

Meh.

387 JacksonTn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:04:06pm

re: #371 Miss Molly

n i wi — I would like to know who is writing Obama’s speeches. You are right — he reads one hell of a teleprompter but can’t put 2 sentences together by himself. And, when asked somewhat hard questions he has to have someone else answer for him or simply doesn’t answer the question at all.

His main speechwriter is Jon Favreau (he wrote the “race speech”) …and I guess being The One’s speechwriter has perks …

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

388 BBev  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:05:03pm

re: #370 Walter L. Newton

First time I found out my ex-wife had Typhlology (fear of tunnels) was in France. We were in eastern France, headed to the alps, and she was driving a rental (I was too drunk to drive) and we started to hit those moderately long tunnels. The first one was just under a mile long and she froze up inside. She made it through, but it was like having a corpse holding on the the wheel.

Never in the first 9 years of our marriage had we ever had to drive through a tunnel that long. We have a few right outside of Golden, but you can see the end. She’s alright if she can see the exit.

Man don’t let her dive in Boston she surly will be a corpse with the new tunnels and the way people drive around here

389 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:05:20pm

re: #365 karmic_inquisitor

Courtesy of Educate Yourself.

Could I instead do a prefrontal lobotomy on myself by shoving frozen peas up my nose?

390 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:07pm

re: #388 BBev

Man don’t let her dive in Boston she surly will be a corpse with the new tunnels and the way people drive around here

Well, she’s my ex-wife, so I don’t have much to do with it anymore. I wonder if she wants a free road trip to Boston?

391 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:15pm

re: #383 Walter L. Newton

He’s not going to give anything away that will benefit a private business. Unless it’s in some “green” scam.

Come up with some computer program to show people how to be green.

Come on, people, I’m working without a net! ;)

392 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:31pm

re: #355 Cato the Elder

Thank you, Don, for opening my eyes. Now I know where these headaches are coming from.

But WTF are “chem trails”?

A conspiracy theory believed by people who have never heard of the high-bypass turbofan engine.

393 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:46pm

re: #385 yma o hyd

Gotta go, Lizards, Madame Dog has done her preliminary stretches and is ready for action!

Sexy!

394 Miss Molly  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:06:56pm

Jackson Tn — thanks for that information. Somehow I missed that.

395 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:08pm

The one thing I’ll miss when Gov. Blago is no longer in charge is his wonderful poetry readings…..Charles Krauthammer said the same thing a couple days ago during the panel discussion on Brett Baier’s “special Report’. :)

396 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:20pm

re: #392 lobo91

A conspiracy theory believed by people who have never heard of the high-bypass turbofan engine.

Doesn’t everything leave a chemtrail?

That’s what any good Hound dog will tell you

397 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:22pm

re: #370 Walter L. Newton

First time I found out my ex-wife had Typhlology (fear of tunnels) was in France. We were in eastern France, headed to the alps, and she was driving a rental (I was too drunk to drive) and we started to hit those moderately long tunnels. The first one was just under a mile long and she froze up inside. She made it through, but it was like having a corpse holding on the the wheel.

Never in the first 9 years of our marriage had we ever had to drive through a tunnel that long. We have a few right outside of Golden, but you can see the end. She’s alright if she can see the exit.

Did she know before that?

398 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:07:31pm

re: #295 karmic_inquisitor

It is all here - List of US Underground Bases

Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!

Never mind the chem trails question. I did some INTERNET RESEARCH on my very own!

This stuff has me aghast! Going on right over our heads, the heartless scientist bastards! I’m going to write to my representatives.

[Sane note: Look at their picture of “chem trails” over the mid-Atlantic states. Those are big stratus clouds, you idiots. “Chem trails” would be invisible at that height. Either that, or there are some super-secret giant planes up there. Come to think of it…OMG OMG OMG!]

399 BBev  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:08:22pm

re: #390 Walter L. Newton

Well, she’s my ex-wife, so I don’t have much to do with it anymore. I wonder if she wants a free road trip to Boston?

LOL

400 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:08:38pm

re: #335 n in wi

You misunderstood.
It was the land of Omaha and Lincoln,Nebraska


That makes more sense then.

401 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:08:48pm

re: #395 chicagodudewhotrades

The one thing I’ll miss when Gov. Blago is no longer in charge is his wonderful poetry readings…..Charles Krauthammer said the same thing a couple days ago during the panel discussion on Brett Baier’s “special Report’. :)

As soon as the senators stop bloviating and vote, Blago will no longer be the governor. I guess they each need their 5 minutes of fame.

402 yochanan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:09:11pm

re: #326 reine.de.tout

grin. chimay ale for everyone

403 kcladderman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:09:37pm

re: #398 Cato the Elder

Never mind the chem trails question. I did some INTERNET RESEARCH on my very own!

This stuff has me aghast! Going on right over our heads, the heartless scientist bastards! I’m going to write to my representatives.

[Sane note: Look at their picture of “chem trails” over the mid-Atlantic states. Those are big stratus clouds, you idiots. “Chem trails” would be invisible at that height. Either that, or there are some super-secret giant planes up there. Come to think of it…OMG OMG OMG!]

OH NO! It sounds like they got Cato

404 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:09:59pm

re: #398 Cato the Elder

Never mind the chem trails question. I did some INTERNET RESEARCH on my very own!

This stuff has me aghast! Going on right over our heads, the heartless scientist bastards! I’m going to write to my representatives.

Start with Kucinich. He’s apparently actually inserted some of this crap into the Congressional Record.

405 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:10pm

re: #383 Walter L. Newton

He’s not going to give anything away that will benefit a private business. Unless it’s in some “green” scam.

Check this link out.
Gives me a lot of ideas (and I’m also a hardware engineer)
Boulder company. I know the release manager, who works for the funding consortium. That guy lives in Texas.

406 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:21pm

re: #401 Honorary Yooper

As soon as the senators stop bloviating and vote, Blago will no longer be the governor. I guess they each need their 5 minutes of fame.


We can catch the second act when he goes to trial,can’t we?

407 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:24pm

re: #295 karmic_inquisitor

It is all here - List of US Underground Bases

Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!

I always knew the Yakima Indians were a creepy bunch, but Mt. Rainier and Mt. St. Helens are secret underground UFO bases?

Someone needs to take up glue sniffing as hobby.

408 filetandrelease  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:42pm

I’m wondering, here in FL we keep having convenient stores swallowed up by pesky sink holes, hmm……

409 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:47pm

re: #340 FurryOldGuyJeans

I would go so far as to say that it wasn’t even friends that got the man into Harvard. It was out and out a quota appointment.

No, it was mostly his grades and a legacy deal since his father was a grad that got him in. Obama graduated magna cum laude. Dislike him if you like, but he’s not unintelligent.

410 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:10:57pm

re: #391 FurryOldGuyJeans

Come up with some computer program to show people how to be green. Come on, people, I’m working without a net! ;)

The last real job I had, for 13 years, for the National Renewable Energy Lab here in Golden, I did write a complete system that kept track of clean energy projects that were being installed in federal facilities. The government agency was FEMP (Federal Energy Management Program) and I developed an application that tracked projects in all federal facilities, the energy savings, cost, project out savings, all sorts of metrics.

So, it’s possible, with my background and all this Obama giving away money and the green mania, somewhere in there is something for me to do.

I’m 56, white, single, male. Probably not.

411 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:07pm

re: #406 n in wi

We can catch the second act when he goes to trial,can’t we?

Will he be able to call rahm emmanuel at his criminal trial ?

that ought to be a hoot

412 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:12pm

re: #406 n in wi

We can catch the second act when he goes to trial,can’t we?

Yep. It’ll be yet another circus when he goes on trial.

413 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:18pm

re: #379 Joan

They have no shame, vapid, feckless fools with their specious delusions of grandeur. They bear the Mark of Zero!

The real irony is that everyone of these Senators lauding Obama know that he swam in the same corrupt swamp as Blago.

414 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:44pm

re: #407 FurryOldGuyJeans

I always knew the Yakima Indians were a creepy bunch, but Mt. Rainier and Mt. St. Helens are secret underground UFO bases?

Someone needs to take up glue sniffing as hobby.

I’ve read some of that stuff before. I think the sniffing of glue was actually an essential part of the writing process.

415 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:11:46pm

re: #398 Cato the Elder

Don’t forget if you are talking to a moonbat that believes that tripe, pretend to answer your cell phone and look at them furtively. Keep doing this and they will eventually leave you alone. Some of these moonbats are skeered of the evil tracking systems embedded in cell phones. Even when turned off they can track you and listen to your conversations. :p

/I know a store where you aren’t allowed to have an active cell phone in it. Guy is nuts, but he does have good stock of geek supplies.

416 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:02pm

re: #401 Honorary Yooper

As soon as the senators stop bloviating and vote, Blago will no longer be the governor. I guess they each need their 5 minutes of fame.

How else are they to show their constituents they are working if it wasn’t for flapping their gums? You really don’t think like a politician, you know. ;)

417 yochanan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:05pm

re: #408 filetandrelease

got an pics and links please we have one sink hole here in Ill. here it is called springfield and crook country

418 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:47pm

A true intellectual Illinois State Senator just said, “People are just human beings, like everyone else.” How true.

419 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:12:49pm

re: #397 karmic_inquisitor

Did she know before that?

No, she found out about 300 meters in to the first tunnel.

420 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:13:32pm

re: #409 avanti

No, it was mostly his grades and a legacy deal since his father was a grad that got him in. Obama graduated magna cum laude. Dislike him if you like, but he’s not unintelligent.

Really? Did he finally release his transcripts?

421 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:13:35pm

re: #410 Walter L. Newton

The last real job I had, for 13 years, for the National Renewable Energy Lab here in Golden, I did write a complete system that kept track of clean energy projects that were being installed in federal facilities. The government agency was FEMP (Federal Energy Management Program) and I developed an application that tracked projects in all federal facilities, the energy savings, cost, project out savings, all sorts of metrics.

We’re saving all sorts of energy in my federal building.

The friggin’ heat’s been broken on my side of the building since Monday.

422 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:13:51pm

re: #401 Honorary Yooper

Yoop, write up something about this for your blog. Something like a title of ” Gov, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out’

423 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:08pm

re: #418 opnion

A true intellectual Illinois State Senator just said, “People are just human beings, like everyone else.” How true.

WOW, the brain trust we call government.

424 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:25pm

The US State department has a blog. It is called (I kid you not) DIPNOTE.


Welcome to DipNote, the State Department’s official blog. DipNote gives context, clarity and other behind the scenes insights on the foreign policy headlines in which you’re most interested. The information is provided to you by those actually doing the work.

The term “DipNote” refers to a diplomatic note, one of the many means by which governments formally communicate with one another. Aside from the title, we make every effort to minimize the use of jargon and acronyms. When they’re unavoidable, we explain them. We want this blog to be as accessible and user-friendly as possible. This blog represents your opportunity to engage State Department…

Question of the Week: What Foreign Policy Objectives Should the Obama Administration Establish as its Top Priorities?

They’re getting input from all over the world.

Hatem in Egypt writes:

Dear sirs,

You know what the priority should be in terms of the Middle East? Simply the implementation of international law and security council resolutions.

Resolutions which include that the annexing of Jerusalem is rejected by the UN, that Gaza and the West bank and all pre-1967 Arab land is under occupation and that inhabitants have a right to resist this occupation, that Israel as the occupier has a duty to protect the people it is occupying….

Etc.

425 filetandrelease  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:35pm

re: #417 yochanan
LOL, no, I don’t.

426 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:45pm

re: #391 FurryOldGuyJeans

Come up with some computer program to show people how to be green.

Come on, people, I’m working without a net! ;)

See my #405 reply to Walter.
The product comes with software that “talks with” the power company, and suggests modifications to power using appliances. Such as shutting the refrigerator down for an hour a day, etc. It is a seriously cool product.

427 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:14:46pm

Did I hear correctly that this paltry “tax cut” of 500 per, is going to be divvied up on a weekly basis? What does that amount to, about 9 bucks extra in the paycheck?

428 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:15:17pm

re: #409 avanti

No, it was mostly his grades and a legacy deal since his father was a grad that got him in. Obama graduated magna cum laude. Dislike him if you like, but he’s not unintelligent.

When have I ever said he wasn’t intelligent? You really just have to come around and try blowing Obama sunshine up everyone’s ass, don’t you?

And how do YOU know what it was that got him in? Only what the MEDIA told you. Now they don’t EVER misrepresent the truth or fail to investigate things, do they?

429 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:15:25pm

re: #371 Miss Molly

n i wi — I would like to know who is writing Obama’s speeches. You are right — he reads one hell of a teleprompter but can’t put 2 sentences together by himself. And, when asked somewhat hard questions he has to have someone else answer for him or simply doesn’t answer the question at all.

for some one who is touted as a genius, a lightworker, and a messiah,
he should be some what “well spoken”.
the incessant uh, uh, uh’s and the stuttering and stammering, just to put a simple sentence together, tends o show me he ain’t that bright.

430 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:15:36pm

Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .

431 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:15:43pm

re: #421 lobo91

We’re saving all sorts of energy in my federal building.

The friggin’ heat’s been broken on my side of the building since Monday.

There were a lot of projects in your facility. It was a demonstration site. Don’t blame me, I don’t work for the DOE any more. Talk to your manager (er, captain, er, what ever, I don’t do mil jargon).

:)

432 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:06pm

re: #424 wrenchwench

The US State department has a blog. It is called (I kid you not) DIPNOTE.

Etc.

Well, that explains the term “dipshit”.

433 jamgarr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:10pm

Chemtrails schmemtrails!

But I swear I saw a “doughnuts-on-a-rope” contrail in the St. Louis area several years ago (indicative of a pulse jet).

434 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:10pm

re: #420 BlueCanuck

Really? Did he finally release his transcripts?

He knows what the media told him. And they had no reason to lie or not investigate things, did they?

435 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:32pm

re: #409 avanti

No, it was mostly his grades and a legacy deal since his father was a grad that got him in. Obama graduated magna cum laude. Dislike him if you like, but he’s not unintelligent.

Avanti, Obama by his own admission was a poor high school student.
He had bad grades & spent his time drunk, doing grass & coked up.
How in the world does he get an academic scholarship to Occidental U in California?

436 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:16:37pm

re: #427 vagabond trader

Did I hear correctly that this paltry “tax cut” of 500 per, is going to be divvied up on a weekly basis? What does that amount to, about 9 bucks extra in the paycheck?

That’s exactly what they’re planning. It’s a reduction in federal tax withholding that will total up to $500 per single person or $1000 for married couples over the course of the year.

437 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:16pm

re: #433 jamgarr

Chemtrails schmemtrails!

But I swear I saw a “doughnuts-on-a-rope” contrail in the St. Louis area several years ago (indicative of a pulse jet).

Regular jets can produce those as well, if the conditions are right.

438 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:21pm

re: #426 jwb7605

You know where my email address is, not hard to find. We’ll stay in touch, so if any real idea pop up, let me know, I’m always open to ideas.

439 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:24pm

re: #423 n in wi

WOW, the brain trust we call government.

Just so, our President was part of this esteemed body>

440 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:33pm

re: #396 Shug

Doesn’t everything leave a chemtrail?

That’s what any good Hound dog will tell you

That’s what my Siamese tomcat will tell you too.

441 tai-pan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:17:49pm

re: #12 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

primitive cultures!

442 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:32pm

WTF is state senator Ricky Hendon going off about?

443 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:40pm

re: #418 opnion

A true intellectual Illinois State Senator just said, “People are just human beings, like everyone else.” How true.

Wrong. Aliens live among us.

444 jamgarr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:43pm

re: #437 Kosh’s Shadow

Regular jets can produce those as well, if the conditions are right.


Linky?

445 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:48pm

re: #415 BlueCanuck

Don’t forget if you are talking to a moonbat that believes that tripe, pretend to answer your cell phone and look at them furtively. Keep doing this and they will eventually leave you alone. Some of these moonbats are skeered of the evil tracking systems embedded in cell phones. Even when turned off they can track you and listen to your conversations. :p

/I know a store where you aren’t allowed to have an active cell phone in it. Guy is nuts, but he does have good stock of geek supplies.

That’s a great tactic! And I know just the guy I’m going to try it out on first. Local “poet” and “activist” whose latest letter to the editor told us what to do about crappy radio station programming: Organize! Get together, people, and form picket lines outside the stations, with bullhorns, placards and brochures. That will convince the passersby that … well … that we’ve got bullhorns!

Guy must have used the word organize a dozen times in a short letter.

446 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:50pm
447 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:52pm

re: #407 FurryOldGuyJeans

I always knew the Yakima Indians were a creepy bunch, but Mt. Rainier and Mt. St. Helens are secret underground UFO bases?

Someone needs to take up glue sniffing as hobby.

Oh, no. Work accident!

448 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:18:57pm

re: #429 nyc redneck

He’s a conniver, a playa, who uses his book learning to dazzle the incurious.Elitist sleight of hand bs.

449 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:15pm

re: #429 nyc redneck

for some one who is touted as a genius, a lightworker, and a messiah,
he should be some what “well spoken”.
the incessant uh, uh, uh’s and the stuttering and stammering, just to put a simple sentence together, tends o show me he ain’t that bright.

Same old same old, Dems are the smartest people in the world,Republicans are so dumb.
When some one pulls this tired line on me,I just say”you keep voting for the people who tellyou how smart they are,maybe they will give you a bigger allowance”.

450 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:16pm

re: #415 BlueCanuck

Don’t forget if you are talking to a moonbat that believes that tripe, pretend to answer your cell phone and look at them furtively. Keep doing this and they will eventually leave you alone. Some of these moonbats are skeered of the evil tracking systems embedded in cell phones. Even when turned off they can track you and listen to your conversations. :p

/I know a store where you aren’t allowed to have an active cell phone in it. Guy is nuts, but he does have good stock of geek supplies.

You mean, like, open your cell phone and have a conversation?

Hello?
Right. Can’t talk right now, I’m with somebody.
No.
No.
I don’t think so.
OK. You know where to meet me, right?
Sure.
I’m doing that now.
Later. I’ll have details.
*click*

451 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:17pm

re: #430 avanti

Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .

If it’s not government bailout money, then it’s none of our business.

452 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:26pm

re: #431 Walter L. Newton

There were a lot of projects in your facility. It was a demonstration site. Don’t blame me, I don’t work for the DOE any more. Talk to your manager (er, captain, er, what ever, I don’t do mil jargon).

:)

We don’t actually fall under the Federal Center’s jurisdiction for most things, including utilities, security, and building maintenance.

When something breaks, we tell the facility manager, who calls someone in Utah, who then hires a local firm to come and fix it.

Or not.

We went without phone service for 3 months, once.

453 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:31pm

re: #444 jamgarr

Linky?

I have pictures at home, from some turbojet or turbofan, although not quite a standard one.

454 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:52pm

re: #442 chicagodudewhotrades

WTF is state senator Ricky Hendon going off about?

He is a screaming , freaking idiot.

455 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:19:55pm

re: #436 lobo91

Thanks. Change! Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

456 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:08pm

re: #443 karmic_inquisitor

Wrong. Aliens live among us.

Gee, why don’t you just take the big leap and link someone to David Ickes’ site?

457 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:22pm

Suckers, all the cool lizards are based in Deep 13

458 BBev  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:26pm

re: #410 Walter L. Newton

The last real job I had, for 13 years, for the National Renewable Energy Lab here in Golden, I did write a complete system that kept track of clean energy projects that were being installed in federal facilities. The government agency was FEMP (Federal Energy Management Program) and I developed an application that tracked projects in all federal facilities, the energy savings, cost, project out savings, all sorts of metrics.

So, it’s possible, with my background and all this Obama giving away money and the green mania, somewhere in there is something for me to do.

I’m 56, white, single, male. Probably not.

Did you by chance work other states governments say Massachusetts?

459 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:26pm

re: #428 FurryOldGuyJeans

I got it from the constant inference that he could not get in with his grades or only got in on a quota.

460 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:37pm

re: #446 taxfreekiller

Of some note on Obama.

He does not need a big brain of his own it being he is the terminus of the Borg collective brain.

They Borg will be beaming down soon to assimilate us. Resistance is futile.

461 JacksonTn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:53pm

re: #340 FurryOldGuyJeans

I would go so far as to say that it wasn’t even friends that got the man into Harvard. It was out and out a quota appointment.

The Leader of the Free World’s Poetry again …(sorry I just love to read this) …

UNDERGROUND

Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.

462 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:20:55pm

re: #430 avanti

Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .

So now O says Capitalism is bad.

Never heard that from a dyed-in-the-wool Socialist before. /s

463 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:18pm

re: #444 jamgarr

Linky?

I don’t have that link, but watch out! they will cause Global Warming!

464 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:28pm

re: #443 karmic_inquisitor

Wrong. Aliens live among us.

They’re not aliens, they are undocumented citizens. Oh wait, you meant….

465 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:42pm

re: #452 lobo91

We don’t actually fall under the Federal Center’s jurisdiction for most things, including utilities, security, and building maintenance. When something breaks, we tell the facility manager, who calls someone in Utah, who then hires a local firm to come and fix it. Or not. We went without phone service for 3 months, once.

Oh, you’re in that secret base at the Fed Center, why didn’t you tell me (full circle).

;)

466 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:49pm

re: #435 opnion
” Obama by his own admission was a poor high school student.
He had bad grades & spent his time drunk”
WOW, appearanly ,I too could be President.

467 jamgarr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:51pm

re: #453 Kosh’s Shadow

I have pictures at home, from some turbojet or turbofan, although not quite a standard one.


I did not know that. I’ll check into it on the interweb sometime.
/I’m still special!

468 Ceemack  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:21:56pm

re: #247 Bloodnok

The….Lurch


I don’t like seeing Jean-Claude Kerry being compared to Lurch.

It’s not fair to the memory of Ted Cassidy.

469 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:22:11pm

re: #442 chicagodudewhotrades

WTF is state senator Ricky Hendon going off about?

If it were me, it would be “How can a grown man allow himself to be called Ricky, unless he has a big drum? HOW?”

470 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:22:52pm

re: #456 Walter L. Newton

Gee, why don’t you just take the big leap and link someone to David Ickes’ site?

He is a co-conspirator. False flag operation. CIA. Freemasons. 33rd Parallel.

471 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:22:55pm

Q: What were Barack Obama’s grades in college?


A: Barack Obama has not released transcripts for his grades from Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law. He has also not released his SAT and LSAT scores.

No explanation has been offered for not releasing them.

Per the Wall Street Journal September 11, 2008, “Obama’s Lost Years,” Obama graduated from Columbia University (to which he transferred after his first two years at Occidental College in California), with a degree in Political Science without honors, so had a GPA less than a 3.3.

His roomate Sohale Siddiqi indicated Obama itially felt alienated, felt “very lost,” and used drugs to get high, which could have led to low grades initially. The roomate indicates that he then turned serious and “stopped getting high.” Obama transferred to Columbia because he was concerned with urban issues.

Based on his overall undergraduate GPA of less than a 3.3, Mr. Obama’s admission to Harvard Law School may reflect:
1) affirmative action statutes,
2) hypothetical higher grades later, and/or
3) other factors.

At Harvard Law School, Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, which, according to the Havard Law School website, is awarded to the top 10% of Harvard Law School students.

472 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:22:55pm

re: #450 jwb7605

Perfect. Having listened to conspiracy radio I find that messing with a fringer like that is so much fun.

473 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:08pm

God help us, some IL State Senator is now sobbing at the podium.

474 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:19pm

re: #465 Walter L. Newton

Oh, you’re in that secret base at the Fed Center, why didn’t you tell me (full circle).

;)

LOL!

I’m in the decrepit 50 year old 2 story brick building at the far northeast corner of the Fed Center, that was supposed to have been torn down and replaced 5 years ago.

475 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:36pm

re: #459 avanti

Then how do you explain JF Kerry, and W? Neither were great students,both got into and graduated from Yale. W has been decried as a village idiot by libs.

476 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:38pm

re: #466 n in wi

” Obama by his own admission was a poor high school student.
He had bad grades & spent his time drunk”
WOW, appearanly ,I too could be President.

I am qualified!

477 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:39pm

re: #430 avanti

Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .

Can you show me Constitutional authority for government interfering with private contracts? Bonuses are part of a private contract.

If a financial institution is going to lose money and and out bonuses it’s the province of the shareholders, board, and customers. If any of those parties have been wronged they have redress in the courts.

If we want to talk about irresponsibility let’s talk about $800 Billion for a stimulus package based on principals which are proven failures.

478 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:23:40pm

re: #451 Soona’

If it’s not government bailout money, then it’s none of our business.

If that company got a nickel of MY money, it IS my business.

479 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:24:00pm

re: #461 JacksonTn

The Leader of the Free World’s Poetry again …(sorry I just love to read this) …

UNDERGROUND

Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.

He’s a Vogon? Where’s the nearest airlock?

480 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:24:24pm

re: #459 avanti

I got it from the constant inference that he could not get in with his grades or only got in on a quota.

That still is a WRONG inference, dip. Try actually reading and UNDERSTANDING what people write, instead of using your Obama Decoder Ring to assume what people mean.

And for the record I do NOT have donkey ears.

481 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:13pm

re: #473 opnion

God help us, some IL State Senator is now sobbing at the podium.

Is it a woman? Then that could be Blagohair’s sister.

482 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:19pm

re: #451 Soona’

If it’s not our bailout money, then it’s none of our business

483 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:20pm

re: #473 opnion

God help us, some IL State Senator is now sobbing at the podium.

Tell me it is a man, please. Women don’t need any more crying women politicians.

484 kcladderman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:21pm

re: #430 avanti

Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .

From the article.
“There will be time for them to make profits, and there will be time for them to get bonuses,” Obama said. “Now is not that time.”

WTF

485 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:29pm

re: #475 vagabond trader

Then how do you explain JF Kerry, and W? Neither were great students,both got into and graduated from Yale. W has been decried as a village idiot by libs.

It has long been “well known” that GW Bush’s daddy and the “old boy network” are responsible for everything he’s ever accomplished, and that Daddy even MADE the USAF make GW a fighter pilot.

/

486 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:34pm

I don’t care what Barack Obama’s grades were in college or Law school.

His willingness to extend an open hand to terrorists tells me he isn’t smart enough to be President

487 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:43pm

re: #458 BBev

Did you by chance work other states governments say Massachusetts?

No, National Renewable Energy Lab is federal, set up by (big groan here from Lizards) Jimmah Carter, 31 years ago. It’s the ONLY lab in the DOE system that is actually dedicated to energy and not military projects.

And they research alternative energy sources, have about a thousand employees, managed by Midwest Industries out of Kansas. About 200 support personal and the rest of the 1000 are scientists.

Yes, they have actually made a lot of progress in the science. Now, and the research is passed along basically free to industry. Of course, big problem is certain industries don’t want the technology, it would get in the way of their big oil friends.

488 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:44pm

Great, couple minutes ago, we had state sen. Hendon yelling about something I couldn’t figure out, now we have a different state sen. (Frank Watson-R) crying?

489 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:25:51pm

re: #479 Kosh’s Shadow

He’s a Vogon? Where’s the nearest airlock?

Let me find a towel. I’m going with you.

490 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:26:45pm

re: #471 Silhouette

One must ask “How can perfection be graded?” to understand why he has never released his grades.

Clearly, he does not want to embarrass his professors who may not have realized they were in the presence of perfection.

That he is so considerate is all part of his perfection.

/Obama in the highest. Amen.

491 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:26:56pm

re: #481 FurryOldGuyJeans

Is it a woman? Then that could be Blagohair’s sister.

Nah, a guy.

492 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:08pm

re: #475 vagabond trader

Then how do you explain JF Kerry, and W? Neither were great students,both got into and graduated from Yale. W has been decried as a village idiot by libs.

Well all conservatives are brain dead morons by their standards. It doesn’t matter what a conservative does or how intelligently it’s done, it will always be idiotic. I think that they are projecting myself.

493 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:32pm

re: #478 OldLineTexan

If that company got a nickel of MY money, it IS my business.

Correct as a customer, shareholder, board member it is your business.

That the problem as soon as the bailout money goes into a companies coffers it becomes the governments business. And that is the beginnings of socialism.

494 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:34pm

re: #486 Shug

I don’t care what Barack Obama’s grades were in college or Law school.

His willingness to extend an open hand to terrorists tells me he isn’t smart enough to be President

He may very well be smart, but doing what you described shows he is utterly lacking in wisdom and common sense.

495 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:36pm

re: #476 opnion

I am qualified!


I’ll put you on the short list for V.P.

496 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:38pm

re: #488 chicagodudewhotrades

Great, couple minutes ago, we had state sen. Hendon yelling about something I couldn’t figure out, now we have a different state sen. (Frank Watson-R) crying?

These people are embarassing.

497 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:27:51pm

re: #410 Walter L. Newton

The last real job I had, for 13 years, for the National Renewable Energy Lab here in Golden, I did write a complete system that kept track of clean energy projects that were being installed in federal facilities. The government agency was FEMP (Federal Energy Management Program) and I developed an application that tracked projects in all federal facilities, the energy savings, cost, project out savings, all sorts of metrics.

So, it’s possible, with my background and all this Obama giving away money and the green mania, somewhere in there is something for me to do.

I’m 56, white, single, male. Probably not.

In another few years you’ll probably qualify for the government’s euthanasia program.

498 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:09pm

re: #474 lobo91

LOL!

I’m in the decrepit 50 year old 2 story brick building at the far northeast corner of the Fed Center, that was supposed to have been torn down and replaced 5 years ago.

You know, I keep trying to make only vague references to things over there, where you are at, you know, keep the chatter down, and you keep just spelling it out in black and white. If I have some spook knock on my door, with your dog tags in hand, I’m bolting.

:)

499 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:11pm

Prisoners’ escape foiled by folly


damn handcuffs!


500 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:29pm

re: #489 OldLineTexan

Let me find a towel. I’m going with you.

Move aside……….aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

501 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:32pm

re: #494 FurryOldGuyJeans

He may very well be smart, but doing what you described shows he is utterly lacking in wisdom and common sense.

Or he really , really likes the other side.

502 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:35pm

re: #483 Silhouette

Tell me it is a man, please. Women don’t need any more crying women politicians.

And a crying man would be better how?

503 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:37pm

re: #430 avanti

In principal. I do have a problem with his phony outrage given that he voted for that crappy TARP scam which had zip in the way of oversite. Plenty of his crooked friends received undeserved bonuses too. Do Franklin Reines and the Countrywide crook, cannot recall the name, ring a bell? No slack from me. None.

504 Ceemack  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:39pm

re: #436 lobo91

That’s exactly what they’re planning. It’s a reduction in federal tax withholding that will total up to $500 per single person or $1000 for married couples over the course of the year.


They’re gonna cut withholding?

I was expecting an extra $500 in my refund next year, and was running over my mental wish list to see what I’d buy with the extra $500. A Colt 1991 was leading the pack.

But an extra $20 every paycheck? I won’t even notice.

505 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:44pm

re: #477 jcm

Can you show me Constitutional authority for government interfering with private contracts? Bonuses are part of a private contract.

If a financial institution is going to lose money and and out bonuses it’s the province of the shareholders, board, and customers. If any of those parties have been wronged they have redress in the courts.

If we want to talk about irresponsibility let’s talk about $800 Billion for a stimulus package based on principals which are proven failures.

It’s right next to the Constitutional authority to decide who is a “qualified borrower” and then force private companies to use the decision when investing their money.

Silly.

If you stick your nose in the Fed trough, you get Fed interference.

506 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:28:47pm

re: #491 opnion

Nah, a guy.

Well, it must be overwhelming to be a part of the first ever IL politician’s impeachment proceeding.

507 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:19pm

re: #497 Soona’

In another few years you’ll probably qualify for the government’s euthanasia program.

Does that pay?

508 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:33pm

re: #496 opnion

These people are embarassing.

Corrupt AND sob-sisters.

And I thought WA politicians were a sad bunch.

509 kcladderman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:36pm

re: #475 vagabond trader

Then how do you explain JF Kerry, and W? Neither were great students,both got into and graduated from Yale. W has been decried as a village idiot by libs.

Well to be fair avanti while quite Giddy with Obama never suffered from BDS.

510 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:37pm

re: #462 FurryOldGuyJeans

So now O says Capitalism is bad.

Never heard that from a dyed-in-the-wool Socialist before. /s

I guess we have a different definition of socialism. When a company is losing money and laying off workers, I think it’s morally wrong to pay the CEO’s millions in bonuses to reward their failure. I’m not saying the government should control it, but just that it’s a bad business practice, especially if we’ll be asked to bail them out later.
I will go so far as to say that if they accept government funding it should be contingent on bonus regulation.

511 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:29:57pm

re: #492 BlueCanuck

Best one recently. A lib lawyer told me to lay off the koolaide. lmao.

512 wahabicorridor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:30:03pm

Great. California residents get screwed again.

This April, a mandate from the California Air Resources Board (CARB) called the Enhanced Vapor Recovery Program (EVRP) will go into effect. The idea behind the program is to get next-generation clean nozzles and equipment installed at fuel pumps in the state in order to control emissions. Sounds like a good thing, right? The environment wins becasue ground-level ozone should be reduced and people win, too.

What’s the problem? These new cleaner gas stations aren’t cheap, and “dozens, and potentially hundreds” of gas stations in California might close down instead to upgrade. In other words, in this case, going green means going out of business. According to the Pasadena Star-News, the South Coast Air Quality Management District has heard from 76 refueling sites (of about 4,500 total in its area) that will shut down because of the high costs of the EVRP. CARB responds by saying that gas prices will go up by about 0.68 cents a gallon to cover the cost of upgrading.

h/t Instapundit

513 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:30:29pm

re: #501 opnion

Or he really , really likes the other side.

Liking one’s enemies is not the wise thing to do.

514 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:30:52pm

Hey, if you haven’t seen the video of the warm reception President and Mrs. Bush got at the Baylor Women’s B’ball game in Waco, view it. It’s up at HotAir. Look at his face during the Star Spangled Banner. What I get from the look is, ‘I took care of this Country and not look what 0 has done in a week to destroy the good I did’. It’s like he fears for the Country.

515 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:30:57pm

re: #499 Dustyvet

Prisoners’ escape foiled by folly


damn handcuffs!




Kiwis……yay, we have really bright crims down here!

516 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:01pm

re: #498 Walter L. Newton

You know, I keep trying to make only vague references to things over there, where you are at, you know, keep the chatter down, and you keep just spelling it out in black and white. If I have some spook knock on my door, with your dog tags in hand, I’m bolting.

:)

We’re hardly a secret. Got a big sign and everything. In fact, if you come to the front gate at the Fed Center, off of Kipling, there’s a big electronic message board that tells people who want to join our unit where to call.

517 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:20pm

re: #508 FurryOldGuyJeans

Corrupt AND sob-sisters.

And I thought WA politicians were a sad bunch.

Damn straight! Capone never cried.

518 sngnsgt  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:22pm

I’m-a-hopin’ tonight’s going to be a quiet one, because it’s been what feels like a hope-less day. Hey Barry, could you send me a couple of tall cool bottles of hope?

519 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:26pm

re: #264 opnion

Right, Obama has never really had to strive, it has always been there from him. He is President of the Harvard Law Review, yet he does not submit even one article?

Um, please! You can think what you want about Obama, but to say he never had to work is just ridiculous. You may not respect the work he did, or think it’s good or necessary work, but you don’t get to be president without knowing how to work. At least, how to work a reception line. ;^)

Seriously, this meme that O was handed everything on a silver platter is just silly. And he was Editor of the HLR, not “president”. An editor edits. Other people submit articles to him. Plenty of work, as this old editor/translator knows all too well. Harder than writing, in some ways. You have to make silk purses out of sow’s ears all the time - whipping other people’s poorly worded thoughts into some semblance of coherency.

Just sayin’.

520 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:40pm

re: #493 jcm

Correct as a customer, shareholder, board member it is your business.

That the problem as soon as the bailout money goes into a companies coffers it becomes the governments business. And that is the beginnings of socialism.

100% agreed. There should be NO taxpayer money going to that company unless it is buying NEEDED products and services.

521 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:31:44pm

re: #507 Walter L. Newton

Does that pay?

You will be sent a non-transferable check upon completion.

522 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:32:07pm

re: #510 avanti

Interfering in PRIVATE business is Socialism. You might actually try LEARNING something the media and Obama don’t or won’t teach you.

523 jamgarr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:32:13pm

“There’s no crying in Blogball!”

524 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:32:43pm

re: #513 FurryOldGuyJeans

Liking one’s enemies is not the wise thing to do.

Hard to oppose people that you like. Understanding your enemy is only valuable to know how to defeat them.

525 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:04pm

re: #510 avanti

I guess we have a different definition of socialism. When a company is losing money and laying off workers, I think it’s morally wrong to pay the CEO’s millions in bonuses to reward their failure. I’m not saying the government should control it, but just that it’s a bad business practice, especially if we’ll be asked to bail them out later.
I will go so far as to say that if they accept government funding it should be contingent on bonus regulation.

You just defined socialism, “if they accept government funding.” To hell with bonus regulation, no one should be offering them money in the first place.

No, I don’t think you get it. Your statement above is the clearest indication of that. So much of what you have posted at LGF has been vague and circular and you avoid questions and answers, but you just cleared thing up for us all.

526 jorline  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:04pm

re: #430 avanti

Can we agree with the President on Shameful wall street bonuses .

I don’t think it’s any of the governments business, nor the President’s…Provided the company’s not on the government teat! If the President/CEO and the Board of Directors make poor decisions let the stockholders terminate them.

This is the main reason I don’t like Obama’s vision for business…I don’t want the government what to do with my company or how much I make.

I learned a long time ago….don’t shoot the goose that lays the golden egg!

EGG THREAD…………………………….

527 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:17pm

re: #519 Cato the Elder

Yes, and he wrote 2 memoirs before he actually did any of that so called work.

528 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:29pm

re: #485 OldLineTexan

and that Daddy even MADE the USAF make GW a fighter pilot.

I have a totally genuine, incredibly authentic memo right here that proves it!

/

529 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:36pm

re: #507 Walter L. Newton

Does that pay?

The medications are free, but you have to provide your own transportation.

530 BBev  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:33:57pm

re: #487 Walter L. Newton

I hear that, I have a cousin that built the first electric car to cross the country and that was back in the early 70’s and I know what happen to the patent.

531 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:03pm

re: #504 Ceemack

They’re gonna cut withholding?

I was expecting an extra $500 in my refund next year, and was running over my mental wish list to see what I’d buy with the extra $500. A Colt 1991 was leading the pack.

But an extra $20 every paycheck? I won’t even notice.

That’s my understanding of the plan.

And you’re right, divided up that way it’s so small that most people won’t even notice it. If they give me a check for $1000, I might go buy something with it.

532 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:10pm

re: #502 n in wi

And a crying man would be better how?

Just that a crying woman is used, by some, to paint all women as too emotional for leadership.

A crying man is treated as just representing himself.

533 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:20pm

re: #471 Silhouette

Q: What were Barack Obama’s grades in college?

Snip

At Harvard Law School, Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, which, according to the Havard Law School website, is awarded to the top 10% of Harvard Law School students.

Don’t know,don’t care, the top 10% is interesting, but proves nothing either. McCain graduated near the bottom of his class, but is sharp enough for me and neither tells us much about how they’d serve as POTUS.

534 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:21pm

re: #507 Walter L. Newton

Does that pay?

Only once. :p

535 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:34pm

re: #525 Walter L. Newton

You just defined socialism, “if they accept government funding.” To hell with bonus regulation, no one should be offering them money in the first place.

No, I don’t think you get it. Your statement above is the clearest indication of that. So much of what you have posted at LGF has been vague and circular and you avoid questions and answers, but you just cleared thing up for us all.


bingo

536 SFGoth  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:36pm

Any sites keeping track of Obama buyer’s remorse?
Anyone got a site where we can thank George W. Bush for initiating the socialist destruction of America?

537 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:55pm

re: #514 newsjunkie_ky

Hey, if you haven’t seen the video of the warm reception President and Mrs. Bush got at the Baylor Women’s B’ball game in Waco, view it. It’s up at HotAir. Look at his face during the Star Spangled Banner. What I get from the look is, ‘I took care of this Country and not look what 0 has done in a week to destroy the good I did’. It’s like he fears for the Country.


Here is the link.

538 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:34:56pm

re: #516 lobo91

We’re hardly a secret. Got a big sign and everything. In fact, if you come to the front gate at the Fed Center, off of Kipling, there’s a big electronic message board that tells people who want to join our unit where to call.

I’m too old, and I am not a reserve. And civilian jobs over there?

539 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:35:15pm

re: #528 Occasional Reader

I have a totally genuine, incredibly authentic memo right here that proves it!

/

Hey, this memo is printed on Official “Hannah Montana” stationary. It MUST be REAL!

/Dan Rather, Mary Mapes

540 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:35:16pm

Blowfish testicles prepared by unlicensed chef send 7 to Japanese hospital with poisoning

Blowfish testicles prepared by an unauthorized chef sickened seven diners in northern Japan and three remained hospitalized Tuesday after eating the poisonous delicacy.

The owner of the restaurant in Tsuruoka city, who is also the chef, had no license to serve blowfish and was being questioned on suspicion of professional negligence, police official Yoshihito Iwase said.

541 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:35:28pm

re: #525 Walter L. Newton

You just defined socialism, “if they accept government funding.” To hell with bonus regulation, no one should be offering them money in the first place.

No, I don’t think you get it. Your statement above is the clearest indication of that. So much of what you have posted at LGF has been vague and circular and you avoid questions and answers, but you just cleared thing up for us all.

The real sticker in all this kerfuffle about exec bonuses and such is that the first go-around with the bailouts there WERE provisions that dictated exactly what could and couldn’t be done with any monies provided. That was put in by House AND Senate Republicans. The approved bills contained NO provisions as to how the monies were to be used. Want to guess who removed those provisions?

542 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:04pm

re: #536 SFGoth

Any sites keeping track of Obama buyer’s remorse?
Anyone got a site where we can thank George W. Bush for initiating the socialist destruction of America?

Can’t really blame Bush for all of this. The voters put Obama into office, not Bush.

543 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:06pm

re: #519 Cato the Elder

And he was Editor of the HLR, not “president”. An editor edits. Other people submit articles to him.

It’s unusual - not unheard of, but unusual - that a law review’s Editor in Chief would not himself/herself publish a “note” (as they’re usually called).

544 jorline  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:13pm

re: #526 jorline


PIMF…I don’t want the government telling me what to do with my company or how much I make.

545 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:15pm
546 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:32pm

re: #533 avanti

Don’t know,don’t care, the top 10% is interesting, but proves nothing either. McCain graduated near the bottom of his class, but is sharp enough for me and neither tells us much about how they’d serve as POTUS.

That’s right, facts are given to you and you don’t care.

547 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:36:59pm

they’re getting ready to vote on the Blago impeachment

548 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:10pm

re: #536 SFGoth

I read an article that more than a few Independents are angry about the pork roast. Call your senators, call the WH, let them know we are aware of the subversive nature of their 800+ page mandate.

549 NYCHardhat  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:20pm

I don’t want to sound like a pessimist, but the news just sounds worse and worse ever since the dough-nut hole took office.

550 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:30pm

OK, now we’re getting somewhere. They’re about ready to vote on impeachment and disqualification (2 separate votes).

551 SFGoth  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:31pm

re: #542 Wyatt Earp

Can’t really blame Bush for all of this. The voters put Obama into office, not Bush.

Really? Obama signed off on the original stimulus package? I realize he was getting carried away as President Elect, but really … . No, Bush precipitated this; Obama’s just grinning ear to ear.

552 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:31pm

re: #535 Shug

bingo

I really dun thin’ Avanti gets it. It’s so fooking simple.

(practicing an Irish accent for the fun of it)

553 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:37:55pm

re: #520 OldLineTexan

There should be NO taxpayer money going to that company unless it is buying NEEDED products and services.

Which begs raises the question: Who defines “needed”? Aye, there’s the rub.

554 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:04pm

re: #519 Cato the Elder

Um, please! You can think what you want about Obama, but to say he never had to work is just ridiculous. You may not respect the work he did, or think it’s good or necessary work, but you don’t get to be president without knowing how to work. At least, how to work a reception line. ;^)

Seriously, this meme that O was handed everything on a silver platter is just silly. And he was Editor of the HLR, not “president”. An editor edits. Other people submit articles to him. Plenty of work, as this old editor/translator knows all too well. Harder than writing, in some ways. You have to make silk purses out of sow’s ears all the time - whipping other people’s poorly worded thoughts into some semblance of coherency.

Just sayin’.

You saw a different bio than I did. I saw him listed as ‘President” of Law Review. But let’s say that he was the Editor, he would still submit an article.
He himself descibed himself as an inferior high school student in his first memoir. Bad grades to not an academic scholarship make.
Yes I do believe that he had things handed to him. He is not the brilliant gift to society that his supporters & MSM make him out to be.

555 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:10pm

The IL. Senate speechs are now over. Voting time

556 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:13pm

re: #547 Shug

they’re getting ready to vote on the Blago impeachment

I wonder just how many will vote innocent. They sure might be looking for a new job come election time (if that is soon).

557 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:17pm

First is the vote on impeachment. They’re going to vote yea or nay on impeachment alphabetically.

558 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:29pm

I keep on thinking about the lame excuse for 0bama keeping his thermostat high enough to “grow orchids” because he is “from Hawaii”. Gee, had me fooled, I thought he lived in Chicago for a while lately. Last time I noticed, Chicago had colder weather than DC does. The man is a fraud, pure and simple.

559 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:34pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

Blowfish testicles prepared by unlicensed chef send 7 to Japanese hospital with poisoning

Why would they send the testicles to a hospital?

560 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:35pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

Blowfish testicles prepared by unlicensed chef send 7 to Japanese hospital with poisoning

That headline’s wordy. Let’s tighten it up:

BEGINNER BLAMED FOR BAD BLOW BALLS

SEVEN SICK AFTER SLURPING SACK SUSHI

561 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:36pm

re: #556 FurryOldGuyJeans

I wonder just how many will vote innocent. They sure might be looking for a new job come election time (if that is soon).

Can they vote Present ?

562 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:37pm

re: #549 NYCHardhat
What the hell’s your problem with doughnut holes?
Hummmm?
LOL

563 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:38:50pm

re: #509 kcladderman

Dissent is patriotic.

564 lobo91  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:02pm

re: #538 Walter L. Newton

We have 1 civil service civilian job (which is actually about to become vacant), but it’s a mil tech position, which means that you have to also be a member of the Reserves in order to hold it.

Other than that, just a couple of contractors who do some fairly specialized planning stuff for our exercises. Also both retired military.

565 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:04pm

re: #552 Walter L. Newton

I really dun thin’ Avanti gets it. It’s so fooking simple.

(practicing an Irish accent for the fun of it)

Irish? I was guessing Ricky Ricardo…

566 Achilles Tang  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:17pm

re: #510 avanti

I guess we have a different definition of socialism. When a company is losing money and laying off workers, I think it’s morally wrong to pay the CEO’s millions in bonuses to reward their failure. I’m not saying the government should control it, but just that it’s a bad business practice, especially if we’ll be asked to bail them out later.
I will go so far as to say that if they accept government funding it should be contingent on bonus regulation.

While we are on that subject, I have always thought it morally wrong for any public company to make political party contributions using anything but the dividends, or shares, of the stockholders who agree in advance.

567 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:23pm

re: #543 Occasional Reader

It’s unusual - not unheard of, but unusual - that a law review’s Editor in Chief would not himself/herself publish a “note” (as they’re usually called).

Quite possible. But then I don’t know for sure that he didn’t - do you? It was asserted above by someone who thinks O “never did any work”, but it’s just that, an assertion. Until I see evidence, it has the weight of any other assertion here.

568 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:26pm

re: #547 Shug

they’re getting ready to vote on the Blago impeachment

The vote is in.

1 AYE, 1 NAY, 285 PRESENT

569 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:41pm

re: #541 FurryOldGuyJeans

The real sticker in all this kerfuffle about exec bonuses and such is that the first go-around with the bailouts there WERE provisions that dictated exactly what could and couldn’t be done with any monies provided. That was put in by House AND Senate Republicans. The approved bills contained NO provisions as to how the monies were to be used. Want to guess who removed those provisions?

Hell, they can’t even tell you where the money is and what it is being used for. Duh. I have to leave in a few minutes, get on the road, and I don’t want to hit the streets raging.

570 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:42pm

re: #551 SFGoth

Really? Obama signed off on the original stimulus package? I realize he was getting carried away as President Elect, but really … . No, Bush precipitated this; Obama’s just grinning ear to ear.

The Democrats started this by insisting lenders loan money to people who could not pay for the houses they bought.

571 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:42pm

re: #295 karmic_inquisitor

It is all here - List of US Underground Bases

Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!

Looks like the salt mines underneath Detroit are safe—for now.

572 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:48pm

re: #558 Shr_Nfr

I keep on thinking about the lame excuse for 0bama keeping his thermostat high enough to “grow orchids” because he is “from Hawaii”. Gee, had me fooled, I thought he lived in Chicago for a while lately. Last time I noticed, Chicago had colder weather than DC does. The man is a fraud, pure and simple.

Careful you don’t run afoul of our Obama booster. He will accuse you of being mean-spirited since you are not in full O Worship mode.

573 NYCHardhat  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:55pm

re: #562 reloadingisnotahobby

What the hell’s your problem with doughnut holes?
Hummmm?
LOL

I lve them just like I love our CiC.

574 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:56pm
When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.

— Robert A. Heinlein, The Cat Who Walks Through Walls

That is one of my favorite Heinlein quotes… kind of reminds me of my kids….

575 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:39:57pm

Blago Votes
Guilty

yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes
yes

the trend here looks pretty bad for Blago

576 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:00pm

Looks like all Yes’s for Blogo’s impeachment.

577 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:14pm

Not a single “no” vote yet…….

578 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:17pm
579 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:20pm

re: #558 Shr_Nfr

I keep on thinking about the lame excuse for 0bama keeping his thermostat high enough to “grow orchids” because he is “from Hawaii”. Gee, had me fooled, I thought he lived in Chicago for a while lately. Last time I noticed, Chicago had colder weather than DC does. The man is a fraud, pure and simple.

A very clever and smart fraud, though.

580 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:25pm

The vote has started, Blag is going down.

581 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:29pm

re: #552 Walter L. Newton

Here’s one for you….
Potty-trained parrot

582 jamgarr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:29pm

Get your balls right here
I have not had the training
Takes balls for the balls

583 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:57pm

re: #551 SFGoth

Really? Obama signed off on the original stimulus package? I realize he was getting carried away as President Elect, but really … . No, Bush precipitated this; Obama’s just grinning ear to ear.

So it is ALL Bush’s fault? You sure you don’t mean Karl Rove?

Of course Bush has some blame. So does the Pelosi’s Congress and Obama. Laying it all at GWB’s feet is weak.

584 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:40:58pm

Is the far right column a “NV” and does it mean “Not Voting”?

585 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:03pm

back back back back back…..Blagone

586 gregg  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:04pm

This is what Dodd and Frank will look like in a couple of years as they break out of prison:

587 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:09pm

re: #532 Silhouette

Just that a crying woman is used, by some, to paint all women as too emotional for leadership.

A crying man is treated as just representing himself.


I guess Hillary didn’t get the memo before New Hampshire primary.

588 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:10pm

re: #551 SFGoth

Somehow, the excessive lending and poor mortgage quality FNM and FRE were not part of Bush’s agenda. I lay that one at the foot of the purple dinosaur Barney. In case people have not noticed, the Congress has had a Democratic majority for 2 years now.

589 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:11pm

re: #558 Shr_Nfr

He’s from wherever it is expedient to be from,just like the rest of his personal history. Smoke and bs.

590 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:49pm

Wow. They are fed up with Blagojavich.

591 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:56pm

re: #575 Shug


re: #577 chicagodudewhotrades


re: #580 opnion

Looks like they ALL are worried about reelection.

592 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:58pm

re: #568 OldLineTexan

LOL!
I think!
What are the odds the little shit slips thru and stays?

593 jorline  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:41:58pm

re: #558 Shr_Nfr

I keep on thinking about the lame excuse for 0bama keeping his thermostat high enough to “grow orchids” because he is “from Hawaii”. Gee, had me fooled, I thought he lived in Chicago for a while lately. Last time I noticed, Chicago had colder weather than DC does. The man is a fraud, pure and simple.

Agree.
I moved from Utah to south Texas a long time ago. It didn’t take but two years to acclimate to the new temps. Now anything below 50 is freezing…lol

594 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:00pm

re: #584 MandyManners

Is the far right column a “NV” and does it mean “Not Voting”?


keeps going down with each vote.
must mean Not yet voted

595 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:19pm

Or, it means “Not Voted” as in “yet.

Convicted.

596 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:26pm

re: #526 jorline

I don’t think it’s any of the governments business, nor the President’s…Provided the company’s not on the government teat! If the President/CEO and the Board of Directors make poor decisions let the stockholders terminate them.

Then we only agree on one of the issues. I think the President has the right to speak out against big bonuses when the company is not doing well and you do not. We did just that when the Big 3 flew in on their private jets. The government should not regulate it unless they are as you say on the “teat”.

597 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:26pm

Obama probably would have voted “Present”?

598 SFGoth  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:28pm

re: #570 MandyManners

The Democrats started this by insisting lenders loan money to people who could not pay for the houses they bought.

And I’ll come right back to the Decider. The Decider decided to chuck his free market principles out in order to save the economy. Reagan would’ve signed off on this? No, he’d have said, you can go back to renting. Bush could’ve said, “Read my lips, no new stimulus”. He didn’t. Of course, if he had had the ability to articulate the problem on tv, it would’ve helped.

599 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:28pm

re: #578 taxfreekiller

Some walk point in the economic system, some just slag around off the left overs the guy walking point digs up, but rather than take a chance themselves, these slags use back shooting creepy Obama’s to steal the money from the guys walking point.

lots of chicken shit sob’s around this America place

Adjust the meds, TFK, your afternoon comment is a little cryptic. I normally agree with most everything you say, but it’s hard to get behind you if you’re talking like Lewis Carroll. Try again.

600 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:36pm

re: #577 chicagodudewhotrades

Not a single “no” vote yet…….

I thought that Rickie Hendon might support Blago, but even he voted yes.

601 Empire1  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:42:49pm

re: #590 MandyManners

Yup. Convicted! Now … unanimous?

602 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:05pm

re: #540 Killgore Trout

Blowfish testicles prepared by unlicensed chef send 7 to Japanese hospital with poisoning


Bloody Japanese, they will rey to eat anything. How the heck do you reach a point where you know how to dress and prepare a fish, that would normally be considered toxic, to a point where you can eat the thing. Must be an evolution thing.

603 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:20pm

re: #597 unrealizedviewpoint

Obama probably would have voted “Present”?

No. That would have implicated him!

604 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:20pm

re: #588 Shr_Nfr

I’ll never forget that baboon troupe grinning ear to ear as they hustled the first crap sandwich through congress.

605 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:22pm

re: #592 reloadingisnotahobby

LOL!
I think!
What are the odds the little shit slips thru and stays?

Joking aside, zero.

Getting caught is the ultimate sin.

606 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:35pm

re: #499 Dustyvet

Prisoners’ escape foiled by folly

damn handcuffs!

[Video]



Man finds worst place to make a drug deal

A 24-year-old man was arrested Wednesday morning for allegedly attempting to sell Oxycodone and other drugs.

Sounds mundane, until you hear that he was caught trying to make the deal inside a men’s room stall at the Everett Police Department.

607 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:37pm

Unanimous.

608 Empire1  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:38pm

Yes! Unanimous!

609 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:43pm
611 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:48pm

re: #591 FurryOldGuyJeans

re: #577 chicagodudewhotrades


re: #580 opnion

Looks like they ALL are worried about reelection.

Yup, but all of the Dem’s sucked uo to Obama.

612 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:43:51pm

Kitten Fail

613 gclaghorn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:00pm

They all sound like “yea” was a hard decision to make.

614 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:02pm

re: #600 opnion

I thought that Rickie Hendon might support Blago, but even he voted yes.

Being reelected trump party unity, it seems.

615 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:04pm

59 to 0, Blago is no longer governor.

616 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:04pm

Unanimous

617 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:13pm

59-0. say hello to Gov. Quinn

618 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:28pm

Will no one stand up for Blogo?

I for one, was moved by his speech this morning….

Not (best Borat voice)

619 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:34pm

Bye Bye Blago!

620 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:34pm

re: #581 Killgore Trout

Here’s one for you….
Potty-trained parrot

Video keeps locking up, I’m using Safari, don’t know, most videos work fine on here, there are a few times a video will shut the browser down.

621 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:37pm

re: #602 A Kiwi Infidel

The Japanese are very odd people.

622 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:39pm

re: #590 MandyManners

Wow. They are fed up with Blagojavich.

It means that the crooks that make up the Illinois political class see this as a way to cleanse themselves. A sort of purification ritual. They will be back to their shakedown politics tomorrow.

623 gclaghorn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:42pm

UNANIMOUS!

624 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:44:58pm

re: #618 The Shadow Do

Will no one stand up for Blogo?

Geraldo Rivera

625 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:04pm

Next up is the disqualification from holding state office ever again.

626 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:08pm

re: #612 Killgore Trout

That’s going to leave a mark.

627 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:10pm

re: #612 Killgore Trout

Totally adorable.

628 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:16pm

re: #617 chicagodudewhotrades

59-0. say hello to Gov. Quinn

Quinn is a clean politician, right?
/necessary?

629 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:18pm

re: #611 opnion

Yup, but all of the Dem’s sucked uo to Obama.

And you find that in anyway unusual? I don’t. The Man is The Messiah-King, The One.

630 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:19pm

re: #579 Walter L. Newton

An eloquent fraud who dances around the facts like Bill Clinton did with his “Is Is” stuff. I must admit that whoever packaged him knew what they were doing. I have never seen such a dense vacuum in all my days.

631 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:26pm

re: #520 OldLineTexan

100% agreed. There should be NO taxpayer money going to that company unless it is buying NEEDED products and services.

Bingo!

632 jorline  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:26pm

re: #451 Soona’

If it’s not government bailout money, then it’s none of our business.

Agree, Soona.

The bailouts are opening Pandora’s Box…goodbye business as we knew it.

633 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:40pm
Blagos out. The Verdict’s in
You’ll not see nothing from the Mighty quinn
634 gclaghorn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:40pm

Cast off all my care and woe,
here I go, singin’ low,
Bye, bye, Bla. Go.

*Doot doot doot doot DOO doo doo do doo doo*

635 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:53pm

59 votes out of 59…Blogo’s out…

636 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:54pm

re: #567 Cato the Elder

Quite possible. But then I don’t know for sure that he didn’t - do you? It was asserted above by someone who thinks O “never did any work”, but it’s just that, an assertion. Until I see evidence, it has the weight of any other assertion here.

Well, here’s an article from Politico.

637 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:45:55pm

re: #620 Walter L. Newton

I get the same thing with FireFox sometimes. Try IE, it’s a lousy browser but it’s pretty good with videos.

638 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:05pm

re: #535 Shug

bingo

Walter, accepting government funding does lean toward socialism, but I did not start that trend, nor did Obama. In a perfect world, GW and others would not have done it, but the jury is still out on rather it was needed.

639 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:11pm
640 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:12pm

re: #622 karmic_inquisitor

It means that the crooks that make up the Illinois political class see this as a way to cleanse themselves. A sort of purification ritual. They will be back to their shakedown politics tomorrow.

They can now point to Blagohair as doing all the cleaning needed and back to business as usual.

641 gclaghorn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:16pm

How long before MSNBC gives Blago his own show?

642 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:17pm

re: #624 unrealizedviewpoint

Geraldo Rivera

Stand up jerry, let em see ya

oh God love ya, you are standing up

643 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:21pm

A bit quiet in the senate chamber as they certify the vote.

644 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:24pm

re: #622 karmic_inquisitor

It means that the crooks that make up the Illinois political class see this as a way to cleanse themselves. A sort of purification ritual. They will be back to their shakedown politics tomorrow.

Tigers and stripes.

645 Empire1  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:46:31pm

Think he’s going to be barred from holding state office ever again?

646 gclaghorn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:06pm

1 back in the NV column? What’s up?

647 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:15pm

re: #645 Empire1

Think he’s going to be barred from holding state office ever again?

He could run for the Mayor of Detroit or Washington DC

648 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:26pm

re: #645 Empire1

Think he’s going to be barred from holding state office ever again?

Maybe. This one might have some yeas and nays.

649 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:35pm

re: #635 Dustyvet

59 votes out of 59…Blogo’s out…

But what was the vote on his hair?

650 gclaghorn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:45pm

re: #645 Empire1

Think he’s going to be barred from holding state office ever again?

We’ll have to wait and see.

651 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:51pm
652 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:47:54pm

re: #643 Honorary Yooper

They’re hoping Blag doesn’t start blurting out inconvenient truths.

653 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:14pm

re: #602 A Kiwi Infidel

Bloody Japanese, they will rey to eat anything. How the heck do you reach a point where you know how to dress and prepare a fish, that would normally be considered toxic, to a point where you can eat the thing. Must be an evolution thing.

Heh…..those who don’t succeed, don’t procreate ;~)

654 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:17pm

re: #641 gclaghorn

How long before MSNBC gives Blago his own show?

The way Fox is going I would say there instead of MSNBC. The audience is 3 for the latter.

655 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:26pm

re: #645 Empire1

Think he’s going to be barred from holding state office ever again?

I wouldn’t vote for him to be dog catcher.

656 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:44pm

re: #646 gclaghorn

1 back in the NV column? What’s up?

An homage to Obama’s days there.

657 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:47pm

re: #652 vagabond trader

They’re hoping Blag doesn’t start blurting out inconvenient truths.

I wish he would.

658 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:48:49pm

re: #647 Shug

He could run for the Mayor of Detroit or Washington DC

If convicted in the federal court system, he could only hold the Washington, DC mayoralship. Detroit forbids convicts from holding public office.

/Yes, it is strange to some, but true, which is why Kwame could not remain as mayor.

659 NYCHardhat  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:06pm
660 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:10pm

Blago has dirt on everybody.

You know people are sweating if he really really starts to sing
He better watch his back.
There are plenty of powerful people who would like to see him “silenced”

661 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:23pm

re: #615 Honorary Yooper

59 to 0, Blago is no longer governor.

he is going to chain himself to his desk.

662 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:26pm

When will he be forced out of the mansion?

663 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:28pm

re: #622 karmic_inquisitor
Yep…They sacrificed the dumb ass for being so arogant to think he couldn’t be caught!

664 SFGoth  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:33pm

re: #588 Shr_Nfr

Somehow, the excessive lending and poor mortgage quality FNM and FRE were not part of Bush’s agenda. I lay that one at the foot of the purple dinosaur Barney. In case people have not noticed, the Congress has had a Democratic majority for 2 years now.

The market crash is irrelevant (well, I don’t mean that in an absolute sense) — because it did not cause us to hop on the 1277 express to Socialism. (Obligatory obscure Blue Oyster Cult reference ;-> ) Don’t confuse cause with motivation. Bush enabled the Dems to pay homage to FDR by not standing up to the Christmas tree approach to fixing the fundamentals on the economy. In fact, the first time in his presidency that the Republicans in Congress do a testicular cancer check (ohmygod, we do have balls!), he takes the Left’s side and gives the Dems cover — hey, if an archconservative like BUSH is in favor of a bailout … . WTF? When he hung the few no-pork GOPers out to dry, it became a question of not how big, but how fucking enormous this thing gets. No, it comes right back to Bush.

665 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:49:44pm

re: #620 Walter L. Newton

Video keeps locking up, I’m using Safari, don’t know, most videos work fine on here, there are a few times a video will shut the browser down.

I have a number of problems with Safari. It’s great for this site, but video gives me problems too and every now and then, it just locks up and won’t do anything….. and you can’t view graphic properties…..bitch, bitch, bitch…

666 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:04pm

What are they doing now?

667 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:04pm

re: #660 Shug

Yes, veddy powerful.

668 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:23pm

BBIAW - got to go fix a senior citizens install of OFFICE. Aren’t I a nice guy?

669 jorline  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:35pm

re: #596 avanti

Then we only agree on one of the issues. I think the President has the right to speak out against big bonuses when the company is not doing well and you do not. We did just that when the Big 3 flew in on their private jets. The government should not regulate it unless they are as you say on the “teat”.

That where we differ period, Avanti. I wanted to see the Big 3 file bankruptcy like everyone else…force them to reorganize. I own a small business, no one will bail me out. The government can’t even run their own business.

Who do you work for Avanti?
If you’re a business owner…shame on you!

670 TedStriker  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:44pm

re: #234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Aw, yeah! Iowahawk’s done it again.

“The tawny kitten writhes before the white snake.”
Mulleti

LMAO!

671 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:46pm

re: #660 Shug

Blago has dirt on everybody.

You know people are sweating if he really really starts to sing
He better watch his back.
There are plenty of powerful people who would like to see him “silenced”

If Fitz puts him in the witness protection program, then I’ll change my mind about Fitz’s motives.
If Blago meets with an unfortunate incident/accident, then I won’t.

672 LGoPs  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:47pm

re: #320 Miss Molly

Maybe it is just me but I don’t believe that Obama is as “smart” as he would like everyone to believe. He got into Harvard because he was sponsered by “friends”. I don’t think he wrote an article for the Harvard Law Review because he doesn’t have the ability and it would be way to obvious that he doesn’t have that intellectual ability. He has always skated by on charm and the race card. I just don’t see any “great mind” of Obama.

One thing I’m sure he has in abundance is a zealous, self-righteous belief in his leftist agenda…….and leftists are known to execute their beliefs ruthlessly and with total disregard to the harm they do. That zealotry, without the staying hand of a strong intellect, can be a scary combination. Like you say, I see no evidence of a towering intellect. I see a guy who’s gotten by with the inestimable assistance of many other, powerful fellow travelers.

673 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:47pm
674 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:50:57pm

From the WSJ on the porkfest:

“Reed Detchon, a Republican former energy official in President George H.W. Bush’s administration, said one item on Rebuilding America’s agenda is to boost spending for state energy grants. The House version of the stimulus bill would provide $3.4 billion for such grants, but the Senate version cuts the amount to $500 million. “It’s a very disappointing number,” Mr. Detchon said.”

Personally, I am not disappointed in the least. They should cut it by another $500 million. The states should not be in the business of buying or selling power and Unka should be either.

675 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:05pm

re: #660 Shug

Blago has dirt on everybody.

You know people are sweating if he really really starts to sing
He better watch his back.
There are plenty of powerful people who would like to see him “silenced”

he won’t go down alone,
he is going to bring as many people w/ him as he can.

676 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:06pm

re: #636 Occasional Reader

Well, here’s an article from Politico.

OK. It says he did write an article. Apparently not a brilliant one, but…

It’s almost 6 P.M. here, guys, and I’ve gotta go. As someone said above, being on LGF really cuts into one’s reading time. ;^)

Watch out for the bat-people and the chem trails, everyone.

677 Kragar  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:14pm

Massive Epic Failure inbound.

Senior manager has decided to scrap the system we’ve spent the last 4 years perfecting in favor of a new system because “Thats the way we’re going to do things now”.

Yeah, thats going to work in an IT environment.

678 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:20pm

re: #661 nyc redneck

he his hair is going to chain himself itself to his desk.

679 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:25pm

re: #673 Iron Fist

You forgot his “enthusiastic” drug use. It can be a real chore, scaring up a couple of eight-balls of cocaine for Friday night, and you have to be real careful if you are freebasing. You can set yourself on fire if you’re not careful…

Paging Richard Pryor …

680 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:26pm

Next they’re asking the question again to make sure it is sustained.

681 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:51:34pm

re: #617 chicagodudewhotrades

59-0. say hello to Gov. Quinn

When Quinn the governor gets here, everybody’s gonna jump for joy.

682 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:52:03pm

His Wiki page already has been edited.

683 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:52:09pm

that was the fastest re-vote in history

684 gclaghorn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:52:30pm

Damn! Wikipedia page for Blago already updated.

685 J.S.  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:52:49pm

Well, looks like Blago’s toast…

686 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:02pm

re: #629 FurryOldGuyJeans

And you find that in anyway unusual? I don’t. The Man is The Messiah-King, The One.

And Brilliant! That historian from New Orleans said that he was the smartest President ever, but he had no idea what his IQ is.

687 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:02pm

re: #639 Iron Fist

In MA, even private sales require paperwork.

688 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:11pm

re: #635 Dustyvet

59 votes out of 59…Blogo’s out…

Yippeee

689 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:25pm

and CSPAN goes dead

690 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:37pm

It is sustained and confirmed. Welcome Governor Pat Quinn as of 4:52pm CST. Now it’s the question of whethere Blago be disqualified from ever holding state office ever again.

691 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:53:54pm

Now voting to keep him out of politics forever.

692 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:06pm

Last update - 00:08 30/01/2009

U.S. envoy to UN calls on Israel to investigate Gaza war crimes claims

[Link: www.haaretz.com…]

Susan Rice. Remember that name.

693 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:10pm

re: #689 Shug

and CSPAN goes dead

It’s a problem with the video and audio in the senate chamber.

694 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:24pm

re: #682 MandyManners

His Wiki page already has been edited.

Milorad “Rod” R. Blagojevich (pronounced /bləˈgɔɪəvɪtʃ/ Blagojevich.ogg listen (help·info), born December 10, 1956) was the 40th Governor of the U.S. State of Illinois, from 2003 to 2009. He was impeached on January 14, 2009, convicted & removed from office on January 29, 2009 by unanimous vote in the Illinois State Senate due to corruption and misconduct in office. He previously represented parts of Chicago in the U.S. Congress, and was elected governor in 2002 and is a member of the Democratic Party.

Mention of party within first paragraph. Good Wiki.

695 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:25pm

re: #680 Honorary Yooper

Next they’re asking the question again to make sure it is sustained.

Who is running this, Microsoft?

Do you want to delete?

Are you sure?

Are you REALLY sure?

696 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:27pm

re: #675 nyc redneck

he won’t go down alone,
he is going to bring as many people w/ him as he can.

Thus his desperation to subpoena witnesses, and everybody else’s determination to make sure he doesn’t.

697 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:37pm

I’ll miss ole Blago’s stories and quaint little fables.
He’s kinda an uncle Blago to me. The cowboy stories,the caring for the under privileged,the Mandela comparisons.
Too much BDS
Blago Derangement Syndrome.

698 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:40pm

He won’t even be able to serve on a school board.

699 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:40pm

re: #662 MandyManners

When will he be forced out of the mansion?

The mansion is already packed up, but they were almost never there.
Thay stayed in Chicago & he took a state plane to work.

700 sngnsgt  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:54:57pm

re: #547 Shug

they’re getting ready to vote on the Blago impeachment

Crooked politics in Chicago? I’m shocked, NOT!

701 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:13pm

re: #558 Shr_Nfr

I keep on thinking about the lame excuse for 0bama keeping his thermostat high enough to “grow orchids” because he is “from Hawaii”. Gee, had me fooled, I thought he lived in Chicago for a while lately. Last time I noticed, Chicago had colder weather than DC does. The man is a fraud, pure and simple.

“We can’t keep our thermostat turned to 72 all the time because, you know, other countries don’t like that.” — El Uno

Maybe he was talking about keeping the AC at 72 during the summer?

702 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:19pm

What’s next? The criminal prosecution?

703 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:26pm

re: #698 MandyManners

He won’t even be able to serve on a school board.

Dog catcher?

704 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:27pm

re: #690 Honorary Yooper

It is sustained and confirmed. Welcome Governor Pat Quinn as of 4:52pm CST. Now it’s the question of whethere Blago be disqualified from ever holding state office ever again.

His hair is running for POTUS in 2012.

705 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:30pm

re: #702 MandyManners

What’s next? The criminal prosecution?

that ought to be fun

706 MrMisanthrope  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:34pm

Roll Call Vote - initially 57 “Blagojevich Him!”, 2 “abstentions”, but those two recanted at the last second and made it unanimous…

707 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:42pm

re: #702 MandyManners

What’s next? The criminal prosecution?

Unless he rolls.

708 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:48pm

re: #703 Nevergiveup

Dog catcher?

He can’t even run for Dog

709 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:55:54pm

re: #699 opnion

The mansion is already packed up, but they were almost never there.
Thay stayed in Chicago & he took a state plane to work.

Already packed? On whose orders?

710 Empire1  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:01pm

re: #655 MandyManners

I wouldn’t vote for him to be dog catcher.

Neither would I — but I’m pretty far from Illinois, so I can’t even venture a guess what those folks would do.

711 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:02pm

re: #554 opnion

You saw a different bio than I did. I saw him listed as ‘President” of Law Review. But let’s say that he was the Editor, he would still submit an article.
He himself descibed himself as an inferior high school student in his first memoir. Bad grades to not an academic scholarship make.
Yes I do believe that he had things handed to him. He is not the brilliant gift to society that his supporters & MSM make him out to be.

Before I live, I stand corrected - you are right, the title is “president”. I believe the job itself is that of an editor, though. But I got it wrong.

712 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:11pm

re: #702 MandyManners

What’s next? The criminal prosecution?

Yup, but Fitz is still building his case.

713 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:19pm

re: #703 Nevergiveup

Dog catcher?

Not if it involves a ballot box.

714 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:21pm

re: #706 MrMisanthrope

Roll Call Vote - initially 57 “Blagojevich Him!”, 2 “abstentions”, but those two recanted at the last second and made it unanimous…

Voted while rubbing the arms that got twisted I’ll bet.

715 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:24pm

re: #679 Wyatt Earp

Was that in Obama’s Pryor life? I continue to find it odd that a drug using mediocre student at Occidental can transfer into Columbia without somebody pulling some strings and preferences someplace. Not to pull a Berg, but there still seems to be some ‘splaing to do about this man’s life that has yet to happen.

716 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:37pm

00:52 Israel expects sale of drones to Turkey to go through (Haaretz)

Why sell weapons to an enemy?

717 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:43pm

PIMF - “Before I live” = “leave”

718 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:51pm

re: #705 Shug

that ought to be fun

I hope he has good security.

719 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:56:53pm

re: #676 Cato the Elder

OK. It says he did write an article.

Not an article, a case comment. That’s the basic, anonymous “in the trenches” work that one does in one’s first year on a law review. If he hadn’t done THAT, he should have been booted off the Law Review.

An article (or, as they’re usually called when a student does them (as opposed to an outside law professor, a “note”), is different. It’s a significantly lengthier, more intensive review of a legal issue. Like I said, it’s not unheard of that the Editor-in-Chief (or President, as it’s apparently called at Harvard) doesn’t publish one, but it’s kind of unusual.

720 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:26pm

re: #707 jcm

Unless he rolls.

Must be some up-tight folks.

721 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:33pm

re: #716 Nevergiveup

00:52 Israel expects sale of drones to Turkey to go through (Haaretz)

Why sell weapons to an enemy?

Relative to the other neighbors, Turkey gets along with Israel.

722 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:36pm

re: #610 joan

A Billion Dollars for ACORN: Building the Commissariat!

Is that the right link, don’t see the Acorn billion ?

723 J.S.  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:40pm

lol…someone (instead of saying, “yes”) replied “Absolutely!” It’s unanimous…no one wanted blago to stay on…

724 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:50pm

re: #715 Shr_Nfr

Was that in Obama’s Pryor life? I continue to find it odd that a drug using mediocre student at Occidental can transfer into Columbia without somebody pulling some strings and preferences someplace. Not to pull a Berg, but there still seems to be some ‘splaing to do about this man’s life that has yet to happen.

Maybe he has some liberal domestic terrorist friends that can help him out?

725 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:57:53pm

OK, time to go home, but I will listen to the vote to bar Blagojevich from holding any state office again.

726 MrMisanthrope  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:01pm

re: #696 reine.de.tout

Thus his desperation to subpoena witnesses, and everybody else’s determination to make sure he doesn’t.


He’s better get Fitz’s “protection” quick before Da Emperor makes him go bye bye…

727 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:05pm

re: #559 Walter L. Newton

Why would they send the testicles to a hospital?

Blowfish testicles flexing their authority.

728 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:08pm

re: #710 Empire1

Neither would I — but I’m pretty far from Illinois, so I can’t even venture a guess what those folks would do.

I reckon they’re fairly sensible outside of Chicago.

729 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:20pm

absolutely!

730 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:24pm

re: #715 Shr_Nfr

Heh, we don’t even know how many siblings he has. Most peculiar.

731 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:24pm

re: #721 karmic_inquisitor

Relative to the other neighbors, Turkey gets along with Israel.

Hell I wouldn’t sell weapons to most of my relatives!

732 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:37pm

re: #717 Cato the Elder

PIMF - “Before I live” = “leave”

BTW - how is that hyperextended knee?

733 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:37pm

IL Lizards what’s the skinny on Pat Quinn?

734 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:58:40pm

re: #727 Soona’

Blowfish testicles flexing their authority.

They better have insurance! I’m not paying for someone else’s poisonous balls!

735 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:59:04pm

re: #710 Empire1

Neither would I — but I’m pretty far from Illinois, so I can’t even venture a guess what those folks would do.

Somebody first elected Obama.

736 gclaghorn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:59:26pm

Barred from Public Office!

737 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:59:39pm

re: #497 Soona’

In another few years you’ll probably qualify for the government’s euthanasia program.

Soylent green is Walter.

738 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:59:54pm

Gotta go - taking some middle school kids to visit wounded/recovering Marines at Balboa Hospital.

739 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 2:59:59pm

re: #709 MandyManners

Already packed? On whose orders?

Don’t know, but they were reporting that on WLS radio this morning.
It could have been Blago, the family stays in Chicago anyway.
They were also saying that signs bearing the Governors name on the Illinois Tollway will be taken down immediately. That will probably happen after rush hour.

740 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:03pm

They voted already and disqualified him from ever holding public office in Illinois.

741 Joan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:04pm

re: #722 avanti

I think it was the wrong link, I’m sorry. Me and links don’t get along. I’ll go back an relocate that freaking report…I almost fell over when I read that number, it CANNOT be right. It just stuns me, the brass nuts brazen power grab that represents, it is sinister.

742 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:04pm

re: #711 Cato the Elder

It is expected of all members of any Law Review to publish at least one paper during their tenure. I do not care which school of law you are talking about. To be the titular head of one and not publish is basically unheard of.

743 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:05pm

re: #688 avanti

Yippeee

Vote just in he can no longer hold office in Illinois

744 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:07pm

re: #716 Nevergiveup


Actually, the countries two armed forces work together on some things. A lot of joint exercises.

745 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:22pm

re: #737 Kosh’s Shadow

Soylent green is Walter.

Very clever! LOL

746 jorline  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:22pm

bbl

747 sngnsgt  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:24pm

Blago knew, Barry O flew.

748 USBeast  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:27pm

Ah, the sweet smell of Illinois politics. I remember when the Chicago graveyard vote put Kennedy in the White House. Those were the days…

749 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:29pm

Heading out to eat early. Have a good evening, Lizards.

750 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:33pm

re: #716 Nevergiveup

00:52 Israel expects sale of drones to Turkey to go through (Haaretz)

Why sell weapons to an enemy?

Maybe they know something that the rest of us don’t know.

751 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:34pm

African foreign ministers demand UN Gaza probe

[Link: www.ynetnews.com…]

Because in Africa human rights are our specialty?

752 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:53pm

re: #739 opnion

Don’t know, but they were reporting that on WLS radio this morning.
It could have been Blago, the family stays in Chicago anyway.
They were also saying that signs bearing the Governors name on the Illinois Tollway will be taken down immediately. That will probably happen after rush hour.

Even if it did occur during rush hour, few would complain. They’d honk and wave and applaud the effort.

754 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:00:57pm

I wonder if this is how it went when the nodroG Was removed by Stinky Beaumont?

755 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:07pm

re: #677 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Massive Epic Failure inbound.

Senior manager has decided to scrap the system we’ve spent the last 4 years perfecting in favor of a new system because “Thats the way we’re going to do things now”.

Yeah, thats going to work in an IT environment.

True story (I have to explain this to recruiters regarding why I have no professional experience on *nix):

17 years ago, I installed a Novell (3.x) LAN for our division, set the system up, gave everybody appropriate priveleges. Included a mail server, etc.

A few years later, Novell went to a Linux based setup, so I put in a purchase order for the upgrade.

That got canceled, because the parent company decreed that all corporate software would be Windows.
They also forced us to go with the “corporate” database, Baan. The parent company didn’t understand Baan was a shell program that used Oracle. The parent made us use the Windows port of Baan, which was buggy beyond belief.
I was given zero rights to the Oracle database, but I needed to store engineering test result data. So I installed a copy of MySQL, because it was reliable and free for internal-only use.

The parent company got wind of that, and demanded we switch over to MSSQL, the windows product.

The division I worked for was “leveraged” into the larger division in California. The original parent sold the whole division to another company.
I didn’t move.

756 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:09pm

re: #740 Honorary Yooper

They voted already and disqualified him from ever holding public office in Illinois.

He’ll just join the Mob; same difference.

757 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:21pm

re: #749 MandyManners

Heading out to eat early. Have a good evening, Lizards.

enjoy a nice ice cold Sprite

758 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:21pm

re: #743 Dustyvet

Vote just in he can no longer hold office in Illinois

Can’t vote til he’s dead either.

759 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:23pm

re: #720 MandyManners

Must be some up-tight folks.

If anything “Chicagoland” happens to Blago, it won’t be an accident.

760 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:24pm

Blago just said that “absolutely” is not really a Yes. And wants a new vote.
/

761 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:42pm
762 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:58pm

re: #744 chicagodudewhotrades

Actually, the countries two armed forces work together on some things. A lot of joint exercises.

Yeah I’m well aware of that. But things are changing in Turkey. I hope those drones have internal self destructs.

763 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:01:59pm

re: #733 jcm

IL Lizards what’s the skinny on Pat Quinn?

He’s the great-grandson of the legendary Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman.

His hobbies are floss-weaving and performing tracheotomies. He is married and had three children, two of which he has officially acknowledged as his heirs before Parliament. He has inhaled, but never blown it back out.

764 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:13pm

re: #756 Kosh’s Shadow

He’ll just join the Mob; same difference.

He’ll sleep with the fishies…ummm sea kittens sorry…:)

765 gclaghorn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:15pm

Applause!

766 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:25pm

re: #737 Kosh’s Shadow

Soylent green is Walter.

Maisey no wanna cracker!

767 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:51pm

Blagoinggoinggoinggone

768 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:52pm

re: #741 Joan

I think it was the wrong link, I’m sorry. Me and links don’t get along. I’ll go back an relocate that freaking report…I almost fell over when I read that number, it CANNOT be right. It just stuns me, the brass nuts brazen power grab that represents, it is sinister.

Joan, that’s why I wanted the link. I know a few billion is going to HUD for home renovation and ACORN could bid for some of it, but I didn’t see any direct money to ACORN.

769 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:56pm

re: #733 jcm

IL Lizards what’s the skinny on Pat Quinn?

Quinn is generally considered to be anathema to the Machine. They don’t much care for him as he is a true maverick in Illinois politics. He tends to ignore the Machine and does what he feels to be right. Blago chose him as Lt Gov as a safeguard against being removed. Obviously, it backfired.

770 vagabond trader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:58pm

re: #751 Nevergiveup

Oh that is rich and I’ll not say what I am thinking.

771 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:02:59pm

re: #719 Occasional Reader

Not an article, a case comment. That’s the basic, anonymous “in the trenches” work that one does in one’s first year on a law review. If he hadn’t done THAT, he should have been booted off the Law Review.

An article (or, as they’re usually called when a student does them (as opposed to an outside law professor, a “note”), is different. It’s a significantly lengthier, more intensive review of a legal issue. Like I said, it’s not unheard of that the Editor-in-Chief (or President, as it’s apparently called at Harvard) doesn’t publish one, but it’s kind of unusual.

actually, i think o is also a lazy, get-by-with-the least-kind of effort slacker.
he should have been thrilled to write an article for the law review.
i don’t think he had the confidence, ability or inspiration to do it.

772 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:08pm

re: #743 Dustyvet

Vote just in he can no longer hold office in Illinois

He’s probably welcome next door in Michigan. That would be fun.

773 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:16pm

re: #711 Cato the Elder

Before I live, I stand corrected - you are right, the title is “president”. I believe the job itself is that of an editor, though. But I got it wrong.

No problem.

774 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:17pm

re: #766 OldLineTexan

Maisey no wanna cracker!

Are you calling Walter a “cracker”?

RACIST!

775 LGoPs  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:21pm

re: #740 Honorary Yooper

They voted already and disqualified him from ever holding public office in Illinois.

With the present, deteriorating state of our electorate’s standards and judement, he might still have a good shot at the White House. All you need to do is get the media onboard and they’ll get the voters to believe anything….
/////// There are not enough slashes on my keyboard to properly express my contempt…….

776 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:24pm

re: #754 Shug

I wonder if this is how it went when the nodroG Was removed by Stinky Beaumont?

Who votes? Stinky & Charles? Or do Monitor’s get a vote too?

777 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:27pm

re: #766 OldLineTexan

Maisey no wanna cracker!

Maisey: What?

778 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:30pm

re: #737 Kosh’s Shadow

Soylent green is Walter.

Mmmmmmm…..Waaaalllter.
//Homer Simpson off

779 JacksonTn  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:42pm

re: #756 Kosh’s Shadow

He’ll just join the Mob; same difference.

Everything relates to “The Godfather” or “Doctor Zhivago” these days …

Blago - don’t do it …we need you …start singing …

The Godfather II ..

Frank Pentangeli: Those were the great old days,you know… And we was like the Roman Empire… The Corleone family was like the Roman Empire…

Tom Hagen: When a plot against the Emperor failed… the plotters were always given a chance… to let their families keep their fortunes. Right?

Frank Pentangeli: Yeah, but only the rich guys, Tom. The little guys got knocked off and all their estates went to the Emperors. Unless they went home and killed themselves, then nothing happened. And the families… the families were taken care of.

Tom Hagen: That was a good break. A nice deal.

Frank Pentangeli: Yeah… They went home… and sat in a hot bath… opened up their veins… and bled to death… and sometimes they had a little party before they did it.

780 bulwrk  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:03:55pm

re: #756 Kosh’s Shadow

He’ll just join the Mob; same difference.

Actually its an improvement.

781 Lee Coller  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:03pm

Too bad that NY senate seat isn’t still open.

782 Joan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:22pm

re: #675 nyc redneck

he won’t go down alone,
he is going to bring as many people w/ him as he can.

Oh I hope, hope, hope this guy sings like a canary. Chicago is full of dirty rat bastards

783 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:29pm

A thread on our new Middle East foreign policy stance?

784 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:38pm

Another interesting video of Hamas in combat…..
Israeli forces Vs Palestinians


The video starts with two shot gunmen. One runs away, the second is rescued by an ambulance. Notice: no uniforms. His buddies try to retrieve their weapons. At least one “journalist” is embedded with the guys trying to get the guns.

785 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:43pm

re: #763 OldLineTexan

He’s the great-grandson of the legendary Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman.

His hobbies are floss-weaving and performing tracheotomies. He is married and had three children, two of which he has officially acknowledged as his heirs before Parliament. He has inhaled, but never blown it back out.

ROFL!

786 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:50pm

re: #742 Shr_Nfr

It is expected of all members of any Law Review to publish at least one paper during their tenure. I do not care which school of law you are talking about. To be the titular head of one and not publish is basically unheard of.

You are exactly right. So either Barry was lazy or he wrote something so poorly or radical that it is conveniently unavailable.

787 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:04:51pm

re: #762 Nevergiveup


I agree on that, but Turkey has been pretty quiet lately. has AKP been doing something worrying?

788 Empire1  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:05:04pm

Just heard on Fox that the vote to bar Blago from holding any further office in Illinois was also unanimous. YAY!

789 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:05:15pm

re: #774 Occasional Reader

Are you calling Walter a “cracker”?

RACIST!

That would be a cracker cracker.

790 NYCHardhat  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:05:31pm
791 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:05:36pm

re: #769 Honorary Yooper

Quinn is generally considered to be anathema to the Machine. They don’t much care for him as he is a true maverick in Illinois politics. He tends to ignore the Machine and does what he feels to be right. Blago chose him as Lt Gov as a safeguard against being removed. Obviously, it backfired.

A glimmer of hope in IL politics!

792 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:05:59pm

re: #781 Lee Coller

Too bad that NY senate seat isn’t still open.

Schumer has been lookin’ ill, ain’t he lookin’ ill to youse, Tony?

/Chicago politics

793 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:06:16pm

re: #787 chicagodudewhotrades

I agree on that, but Turkey has been pretty quiet lately. has AKP been doing something worrying?

Their Prime Minister has been spewing some pretty anti-Israel venom.

794 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:06:36pm

re: #788 Empire1

Just heard on Fox that the vote to bar Blago from holding any further office in Illinois was also unanimous. YAY!

Hey, Blago here to tell you about an amazing product!


Remember, you can’t buy this in stores! But if you call now, our operators are standing by …

795 Soona'  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:07:22pm

re: #761 Iron Fist

That sucks. Here you can buy with cash money and not even exchange much more than “How much is it?” and “Will you take $X for it?” with the cops setting right there and it is 100% legal. The cops won’t even ask to see anyone’s drivers license at a gun show. If you were doing the deal in the parking lot of Wall Mart, it’s still legal, but a cop might run your license to make sure there were no outstanding warrants on you (I’ve had that happen once).

Same here in Oklahoma.

796 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:07:26pm

re: #771 nyc redneck

i think o is also a lazy, get-by-with-the least-kind of effort slacker

My gut hunch as well. In fact I see nothing on his resume that says anything else. Ambitious, you bet. Industrious, no way.

797 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:07:36pm
798 Bobblehead  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:07:47pm

re: #234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Aw, yeah! Iowahawk’s done it again.

“The man who builds his well at a distance soon laments when his wife’s mustache catches fire.”
Khazhak
LOL

799 chicagodudewhotrades  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:08:16pm

damn, I’ll miss Gov. blago reciting poetry…….

800 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:08:26pm

re: #791 jcm

A glimmer of hope in IL politics!

A maverick in IL is still a steaming turd as far as I’m concerned, just a bit less smelly.

801 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:08:31pm

“It is shameful,” Obama said at the White House. “And part of what we’re going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility.” (AP)

Kinda like you did for your inauguration?

802 NYCHardhat  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:09:37pm

re: #801 Nevergiveup

“It is shameful,” Obama said at the White House. “And part of what we’re going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility.” (AP)

Kinda like you did for your inauguration?

Everytime I hear him speak or read his quotes, my head hurts.

803 mean Gene  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:10:02pm

Blago’s out.

804 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:10:07pm

re: #798 Bobblehead

“The man who builds his well at a distance soon laments when his wife’s mustache catches fire.”
Khazhak
LOL

If you want to know a man, walk a mile in his moccasins. That way, if you change your mind, you’re one mile ahead of him with his shoes.

/Illini proverb

805 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:10:35pm

re: #796 The Shadow Do

My gut hunch as well. In fact I see nothing on his resume that says anything else. Ambitious, you bet. Industrious, no way.

Watch out, lest you run afoul of our resident Obama booster. He will accuse you of being mean-spirited because you are obviously not in full O Worship mode.

“How DARE you have an opinion of Our Messiah-King that is not totally complimentary!”

806 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:10:40pm

re: #761 Iron Fist

Yeah it does, but MA is moonbat east as you know. Billy Weld (of unprintable memory) started a lot of stuff that was less than wise. To transport a firearm you need a Firearms ID if its a long gun and a License to Carry if its a short gun. License to carry comes in 2 flavors, large magazine and short magazine. All in state transfers are registered and any gun you import from out of state is supposed to be also. Mine is large magazine, but it can get very insane and capricious since things are administered by the town police chief. Get some moonbat in there and they can cause a lot of trouble. Soon coming to a country near you.

807 Dustyvet  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:11:30pm

re: #794 jwb7605

Hey, Blago here to tell you about an amazing product!


Remember, you can’t buy this in stores! But if you call now, our operators are standing by …

New and improved Blago in a can! …

808 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:11:35pm

re: #801 Nevergiveup

“It is shameful,” Obama said at the White House. “And part of what we’re going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility.” (AP)

Kinda like you did for your inauguration?

PUUULEEEZE! The One is not bound to mortal ethics. He’s the Messiah-King!

809 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:11:36pm

OT:
I had the “Innocent Gitmo” thread open, and some guy calling himself “desdicado” has a post worth reading. I updinged him.

810 Empire1  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:11:57pm

re: #802 NYCHardhat

Everytime I hear him speak or read his quotes, my head hurts.

Yours isn’t the only one!

811 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:12:40pm

re: #799 chicagodudewhotrades

damn, I’ll miss Gov. blago reciting poetry…….

Blagohair’s recitations of poetry made me pine for some Vogon poetry readings.

812 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:12:59pm

re: #798 Bobblehead

“Do not waste your time talking to the yak. Because yakkity yak don’t talk back.”
Mongolian

This is going in my next ppt deck on employee engagement.

813 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:01pm

A big women’s basketball game between No. 2 Oklahoma and No. 4 Baylor just gained added prestige.

Former President George W. Bush and wife Laura attended Wednesday’s game. The two entered several minutes before the opening tip, flanking Lady Bears coach Kim Mulkey, and received a prolonged standing ovation from the fans at the Ferrell Center. The group was engulfed by photographers and camera crews at the Oklahoma bench.

[Link: www.dallasnews.com…]

Go for it Mr. President.

814 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:04pm

re: #798 Bobblehead

“The man who builds his well at a distance soon laments when his wife’s mustache catches fire.”
Khazhak
LOL

“Give a man a fish, he will eat today. Promise a man a million fish, he will contribute heap big wampum to your tribal election campaign fund.”
Iroquois

815 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:18pm

re: #797 Iron Fist

Me too. McCain ran the weakest campaign I could think of.

816 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:38pm

re: #801 Nevergiveup

“It is shameful,” Obama said at the White House. “And part of what we’re going to need is for the folks on Wall Street who are asking for help to show some restraint, and show some discipline, and show some sense of responsibility.” (AP)

Kinda like you did for your inauguration?

And I suppose poor Chris and Barney were steamrolled by those mean, nasty and dastardly wall street types…Real troopers for truth those two
///

817 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:13:43pm

re: #806 Shr_Nfr

Yeah it does, but MA is moonbat east as you know. Billy Weld (of unprintable memory) started a lot of stuff that was less than wise. To transport a firearm you need a Firearms ID if its a long gun and a License to Carry if its a short gun. License to carry comes in 2 flavors, large magazine and short magazine. All in state transfers are registered and any gun you import from out of state is supposed to be also. Mine is large magazine, but it can get very insane and capricious since things are administered by the town police chief. Get some moonbat in there and they can cause a lot of trouble. Soon coming to a country near you.

When need some Equal Protection Clause suits on shit like this. They might not overtly be infringing but by onerous, obscure and obtuse regulation achieve a defacto infringement.

818 kcladderman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:14:29pm

re: #563 vagabond trader

Dissent is patriotic.

Thats what they told us for 8 years.

819 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:14:48pm

re: #685 J.S.

Well, looks like Blago’s toast…

Next—Blago II—the Criminal Trial.

That’s when BHO and Rham Emanuel will have to give testimony. That’ll be fun.

820 Inquisitive  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:14:51pm

Out with the Old….and in with the New…..no more Gov. Blagohair in IL….

821 Pietr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:14:59pm

Is Zombie around? I ask, because I’ve gotten a disturbing report from a grand nephew, on the missus side. He was called up with his guard unit to work the security for the Inauguration. He said there was a bus load of BO supporters who came by and they were calling the troops “Fascist Army Pigs” and spitting at them. I wondered if he or anyone else got similar feedback.

Now I thought the GWB “Heyhey Goodbye” was low class-but to treat the guys/gals who protect us (and who were there to protect them, as well as BO) like this, on Jan 20TH, is the LOWEST of low class. Bubba’s time was called the trailer trash years by some-but even he and Hilarious’s supporters weren’t this vile, IMHO…….

822 n in wi  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:15:12pm

re: #809 jwb7605

OT:
I had the “Innocent Gitmo” thread open, and some guy calling himself “desdicado” has a post worth reading. I updinged him.

1 down,
69456896 to go
start the clock

823 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:15:28pm

re: #805 FurryOldGuyJeans

Watch out, lest you run afoul of our resident Obama booster. He will accuse you of being mean-spirited because you are obviously not in full O Worship mode.

“How DARE you have an opinion of Our Messiah-King that is not totally complimentary!”

Forgive me while a fail to swoon, or even tingle, in the presence of his holy image.

824 Irenike  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:16:17pm

I probably should’ve added these comments to an earlier thread, but here goes.

My theory is that Obama doesn’t really give a crap whether Iran has nukes. He’ll just flap his gums and pay lip service to getting them to do something differently, but he won’t lift a finger to stop them. In the end, the only thing that matters to him is his own self-image. Liberals never ask “Is this policy actually working in the real world?” They ask: “How do I feel about myself for holding this opinion?” It’s all about their feelings, their perceptions of themselves, their need to be perceived by others as compassionate and a team-player. That’s why Obama is willing to go over there first—before he talks to any other country— and tell a bunch of thugs how much he has in common with them. I believe he really believes he will charm the pants off them, and will be able to succeed where nobody else has, because he comes from a Muslim background and because he is such a messiah in the US media.

I wouldn’t be surprised if under some crazy Marxist logic, Obama secretly thinks a nuclear Iran would be a good thing. It’ll boost their self-esteem. They won’t feel so powerless, so they’ll be nicer. And besides, all countries are morally equivalent, so why not let them have nukes? It’ll make everybody equal. And equality, as we all know, is far more important to liberals than these silly, outmoded notions of “moral” and “immoral.” For Marxists, there is no such thing as right and wrong. There is only those who are “oppressed” (Iran) and those who are “oppressors” (US and Israel).

825 kcladderman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:16:27pm

re: #821 Pietr

Is Zombie around? I ask, because I’ve gotten a disturbing report from a grand nephew, on the missus side. He was called up with his guard unit to work the security for the Inauguration. He said there was a bus load of BO supporters who came by and they were calling the troops “Fascist Army Pigs” and spitting at them. I wondered if he or anyone else got similar feedback.

Now I thought the GWB “Heyhey Goodbye” was low class-but to treat the guys/gals who protect us (and who were there to protect them, as well as BO) like this, on Jan 20TH, is the LOWEST of low class. Bubba’s time was called the trailer trash years by some-but even he and Hilarious’s supporters weren’t this vile, IMHO…….

Not hard to believe.

826 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:16:39pm

re: #816 The Shadow Do

And I suppose poor Chris and Barney were steamrolled by those mean, nasty and dastardly wall street types…Real troopers for truth those two
///

The government throws cash, and lots of it, at businesses with NO strings attached, and yet they are confused when those businesses do what they want with the cash instead of what the government wants.

827 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:16:46pm

re: #804 OldLineTexan

If you want to know a man, walk a mile in his moccasins. That way, if you change your mind, you’re one mile ahead of him with his shoes.

/Illini proverb

Reminds me of an old “B.C.” cartoon. One character is walking up to another, saying: “5,278… 5,279… 5,280.” [hands shoes to other] “Here are your moccasins back. I still think you’re a jerk.”

828 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:16:51pm

re: #771 nyc redneck

If it isn’t about him, he lacks inspiration in the general case.

829 BBev  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:17:01pm

re: #731 Nevergiveup

Hell I wouldn’t sell weapons to most of my relatives!

Nor would I sell them to my neighbors, I don’t want them to have the same fire power I have.

830 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:17:13pm

re: #809 jwb7605

OT:
I had the “Innocent Gitmo” thread open, and some guy calling himself “desdicado” has a post worth reading. I updinged him.

We can expect an avalanche of similar changed minds in the next months. 2-years from now he’ll have about as much support as Jimmah did in 1979.

831 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:18:16pm
“Every rose has its thorn — made from poison.”
Mulleti


HA! Confession - I know Bret Michaels. I am sending him this as we speak, er type.

832 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:18:37pm

re: #813 Nevergiveup

A big women’s basketball game between No. 2 Oklahoma and No. 4 Baylor just gained added prestige.

Who cares? They’re just dumb, Christianist flyover hicks.

/LLL knee-jerk

833 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:18:44pm

re: #831 ArmyWife

HA! Confession - I know Bret Michaels. I am sending him this as we speak, er type.

Does he wear a rug?

834 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:19:14pm

re: #829 BBev

Nor would I sell them to my neighbors, I don’t want them to have the same fire power I have.

Now that’s a motto to live by!

835 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:19:23pm

re: #823 The Shadow Do

Forgive me while a fail to swoon, or even tingle, in the presence of his holy image.

You needn’t even bother asking for forgiveness, even from me, since I don’t see any reasons. The O booster will just denounce you. Asking for forgiveness will only be seen as a sign of weakness and caving in to the Luminosity that is The One.

836 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:19:56pm

re: #819 calcajun

Next—Blago II—the Criminal Trial.

That’s when BHO and Rham Emanuel will have to give testimony. That’ll be fun.

Executive privilege redux?

837 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:20:49pm

re: #821 Pietr

There were protests against the Military - I did not witness this, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

838 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:20:57pm

re: #831 ArmyWife

HA! Confession - I know Bret Michaels. I am sending him this as we speak, er type.

Just don’t Talk Dirty To Him

///

839 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:21:06pm
840 callahan23  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:21:16pm

re: #234 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Aw, yeah! Iowahawk’s done it again.

Incredible LOL’s:

“Do not curse the crow who has stolen you chili; tomorrow his rectum will curse the dawn.” Thai

“Do not waste your time talking to the yak. Because yakkity yak don’t talk back.” Mongolian

And of course:

“The loyal dog feasts, but the treacherous cat no can haz cheezburgr.”
Hungarian


Where is the Goddess when cats need defendin’

841 nyc redneck  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:21:37pm

re: #805 FurryOldGuyJeans

Watch out, lest you run afoul of our resident Obama booster. He will accuse you of being mean-spirited because you are obviously not in full O Worship mode.

“How DARE you have an opinion of Our Messiah-King that is not totally complimentary!”

LOL,

if he was a gifted intelligent person, we would see the evidence, (grades, awards, accolades, accomplishments) splashed everywhere.
he is NOT being coy by w/holding flattering information abt his brilliance..
there is none. or we would have seen it.

842 Silhouette  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:00pm

re: #821 Pietr

Is Zombie around? I ask, because I’ve gotten a disturbing report from a grand nephew, on the missus side. He was called up with his guard unit to work the security for the Inauguration. He said there was a bus load of BO supporters who came by and they were calling the troops “Fascist Army Pigs” and spitting at them. I wondered if he or anyone else got similar feedback.

This doesn’t address treatment of troops, but I can report that a co-worker, a hardcore worshipper at the church of Obama, went to the inauguration. So realize he is not exactly eager to say bad things about the crowd.

When we discussed that Bush was booed, he said that the media was being VERY kind and that it was, in reality, very ugly.

Very.

Ugly.

843 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:07pm

re: #826 FurryOldGuyJeans

The government throws cash, and lots of it, at businesses with NO strings attached, and yet they are confused when those businesses do what they want with the cash instead of what the government wants.

Oh there will be strings, lots and lots of strings. Its called Socialism.

844 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:16pm

re: #822 n in wi

1 down,
69456896 to go
start the clock

I can’t upding him..Who goes through 20 months of listening to what Obama says he is going to do if elected and still the dude votes for him. Then 2 weeks into the office of POTUS he expresses buyers remorse about it..
Oh boo hoo hoo!
he had almost 2 years to make an informed decision before voting..
Too late now pal..You can’t take your vote back now.

845 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:27pm

Pakistan’s Partial Crackdown Lets Imams Preach Jihad

A dozen Pakistani policemen stood watch last week outside a Lahore mosque known to be a stronghold of the Lashkar-e-Taiba guerrilla group — while the imam inside preached jihad to thousands of worshippers.

The squad’s presence was part of Pakistan’s vow to curb Lashkar, which India blames for the Nov. 26-29 Mumbai terrorist attack that killed 164 people, and it showed how limited that effort has been. As the officers heard Saifullah Khalid’s sermon blaring over loudspeakers, he demanded more attacks on India.

“Muslims under the leadership of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jamaat ud-Dawa will conquer all South Asia!” Khalid roared. “Nobody can stop us from fighting India!”

Pakistan’s offensive, in response to international pressure to suppress Lashkar and its civilian ally, Jamaat, is halting and partial at best, says Ahmed Rashid, a Lahore-based analyst and author of books on Pakistan and Islamic militancy. Fewer Jamaat leaders have been arrested, and fewer of its schools closed, than the national government claims, according to provincial-level figures.

Because the country’s politically dominant army has cultivated Lashkar and Jamaat to help confront India over the disputed territory of Kashmir, “there is not going to be any sudden U-turn in policy,” Rashid said. “I don’t expect a proper crackdown.”

/never fear, Obama sent Richard Holbrooke here!

846 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:35pm

re: #836 The Shadow Do

Executive privilege redux?

Testifying or not could end up being a tarnish on his escutcheon.

847 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:43pm

re: #817 jcm

You wind up with arguments about compelling state interest vs rational interest. The state has a compelling interest to protect the POTUS. It only has a rational interest to protect me. It makes all the difference in equal protection stuff. But I do get really pissed off at these guys who live in these protected compounds telling me I shouldn’t be able to defend me and mine in my own house. They finally changed the law in MA so that I don’t have to retreat from my own house before I can shoot somebody. Previously I had to. You still have to try and disengage outside your house, but at least one thing has improved.

848 jwb7605  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:22:49pm

re: #822 n in wi

1 down,
69456896 to go
start the clock

I’m going to remember the poster’s nic and give him some slack if he posts on a thread I’m actively monitoring.

That is the first time I’ve seen somebody admit voting for O, and acknowledge the probable error of his ways.

/Besides, he likes Country Western music.

849 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:23:18pm

re: #835 FurryOldGuyJeans

You needn’t even bother asking for forgiveness, even from me, since I don’t see any reasons. The O booster will just denounce you. Asking for forgiveness will only be seen as a sign of weakness and caving in to the Luminosity that is The One.

May Dumbo ears be upon me.

850 mean Gene  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:23:36pm

re: #840 callahan23

Where is the Goddess when cats need defendin’

I found a personal new favorite from real African provers online…..
“Don’t tell the man who is carrying you that he stinks.”

851 quickredfox  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:23:53pm

re: #835 FurryOldGuyJeans

the Luminosity that is The One.

Or should that be “The I Won.”

852 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:24:34pm

re: #841 nyc redneck

LOL,

if he was a gifted intelligent person, we would see the evidence, (grades, awards, accolades, accomplishments) splashed everywhere.
he is NOT being coy by w/holding flattering information abt his brilliance..
there is none. or we would have seen it.

The O booster has basically called us liars since we won’t believe his words of how well O did in school. Now you try applying logic and facts to faith in The One. That ain’t cricket! ;)

853 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:24:44pm
854 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:25:06pm

re: #833 Shug

I don’t even know how to answer that - I hope you don’t take that as me being snotty, I don’t mean it to be, but I also wouldn’t divulge anything personal about my friends, nor would I give credence to silly rumors.

855 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:25:13pm

At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan Thursday, Jan. 29, reproached Israeli president Shimon Peres over the Gaza offensive, saying “You kill people,” continuing the abuse he has leveled against Israel in recent weeks.
Israeli president Shimon Peres said, raising his voice, Israel’s 22-day offensive was launched in reaction to eight years of rocket fire. Turning to Erdogan, who had said Israel had made Gaza an “open air prison,” Peres asked: “Why did they fire rockets? There was no siege against Gaza. There was never a day of starvation in Gaza.”
The former Norwegian prime minister, Khell Magne Bondevik, said he had never seen Shimon Peres so passionate. I think he felt Israel was being attacked by so many in the international community. He felt isolated.”
The Turkish premier stalked out of the forum when the moderator, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, cut him short when he tried to reply. He complained Peres had spoken for 25 minutes while he had been allotted only 12 and shouted: “I remember two former prime ministers in your country who said they felt very happy when they were able to enter Palestine on tanks.” He went on to protest the applause Peres had won: “You are applauding killing and war!”
Arab League secretary Amr Mussa said Erdogan’s action in leaving the hall was understandable. Of Israel, he said: “They don’t listen.”
Peres read out passages from the Hamas charter which call for Israel’s destruction. “I want to see what you would do if rockets landed on Istanbul every night. What would you say to the mothers?” he asked the Turkish prime minister. Since 2000, more than a thousand Israelis have been killed in terrorist attacks and more than 5,500 rockets have been dropped on Israel.”
He again raised his voice when he said: “You talk about a non-existent reality and I am telling the truth. Can you understand a million people living in shelters? Are you mad? I cannot accept lies. Mubarak accused Hamas and he knows the situation as well as you, Mr. Erdogan. Hamas fired out of kindergartens and schools. How could we not respond?”
“All Peres said was a lie. It was unacceptable,” said Erdogan as he left. He warned there would be repercussions on relations between Turkey and Israel. “I am a prime minister and no one shouts at me,” he said.
The Israeli leader later called the Turkish premier and they agreed the incident would not affect relations between their countries.

And Israel want to sell weapons to them?

856 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:25:21pm

re: #851 quickredfox

Or should that be “The I Won.”

I bow before the verity of your statement. ;)

857 Shug  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:00pm

re: #854 ArmyWife

aah, but you didn’t say No

858 The Shadow Do  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:13pm

re: #846 FurryOldGuyJeans

Testifying or not could end up being a tarnish on his escutcheon.

And I am all for tarnishing his escutcheon! LOL

859 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:16pm

re: #838 Bloodnok

Like that’s never been said! I’ll give you a non-personal story. Bret’s tattoo artist did my ink, and we were all playing music and - oh wait, this does get personal. Nevermind. ;)

860 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:18pm

re: #847 Shr_Nfr

They finally changed the law in MA so that I don’t have to retreat from my own house before I can shoot somebody

What makes you think you have more of a right to (so-called) “your” house than the so-called “home invader” does? Property is theft, dude!

861 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:28pm

re: #856 FurryOldGuyJeans

I bow before the verity of your statement. ;)

And curse myself for not thinking of it first.

862 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:40pm

re: #821 Pietr

Is Zombie around? I ask, because I’ve gotten a disturbing report from a grand nephew, on the missus side. He was called up with his guard unit to work the security for the Inauguration. He said there was a bus load of BO supporters who came by and they were calling the troops “Fascist Army Pigs” and spitting at them. I wondered if he or anyone else got similar feedback.

Now I thought the GWB “Heyhey Goodbye” was low class-but to treat the guys/gals who protect us (and who were there to protect them, as well as BO) like this, on Jan 20TH, is the LOWEST of low class. Bubba’s time was called the trailer trash years by some-but even he and Hilarious’s supporters weren’t this vile, IMHO…….

Never heard a peep about anything like that. There was the drunk college kid that whipped out a small Soviet flag for a second while on camera, but the other kids took it away.
Then yesterday I read about a drum major that was suspending for nodding at Obama when he waved at him. Drum majors are not supposed to do that.

863 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:26:40pm

re: #857 Shug

and I equally did not say yes.

864 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:27:06pm

re: #858 The Shadow Do

And I am all for tarnishing his escutcheon! LOL

O might find out that teflon itches. ;)

865 opnion  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:27:09pm

re: #841 nyc redneck

LOL,

if he was a gifted intelligent person, we would see the evidence, (grades, awards, accolades, accomplishments) splashed everywhere.
he is NOT being coy by w/holding flattering information abt his brilliance..
there is none. or we would have seen it.

Logic itself. Obama is full of hubris & if he had a very distnguished background, the proof statements would be paraded all over the place.

866 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:02pm
867 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:06pm

re: #861 Bloodnok

And curse myself for not thinking of it first.

Would you please kindly get the hell out of my head! ;)

868 Bloodnok  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:15pm

re: #859 ArmyWife

Like that’s never been said! I’ll give you a non-personal story. Bret’s tattoo artist did my ink, and we were all playing music and - oh wait, this does get personal. Nevermind. ;)

S’OK, it’s Nothin’ But a Good Time.

869 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:28pm

re: #839 Iron Fist

Machine guns require a special permit up here from the local police chief. Not unheard of, but I never felt the urge to chew up ammo that fast. I am not sure where the moonbats have their environmental stuff now. For a while they were trying to shut down a lot of gun clubs over “lead in the environment”. Sorry guys, but you know, I can go dig a ball out of a civil war battlefield, and its still all there. Metallic lead does not leech all that much. Its like aluminum. You form an oxide on the outside and that is the end of it. Other forms of lead like lead sulphide and so forth are a different matter. But never try to confuse a moonbat with science. They have come to their conclusions handed down by a higher power. Bah!

870 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:32pm

re: #855 Nevergiveup

At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan Thursday, Jan. 29, reproached Israeli president Shimon Peres over the Gaza offensive, saying “You kill people,”

Now that’s odd, I seem to recall Turkey doing some very non-diplomatic things to the Kurds. Including Kurds living outside their own borders.

871 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:28:33pm

re: #732 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - how is that hyperextended knee?

You caught me just before I crawl off to bed to elevate the bastard, KI!

Thanks for asking. It was both the knee and the ankle on the same leg. Not to mention the big throbbing knot on the back o’ me head. There is no damage outside swelling and pain, and it should be all right in a few days. Getting up and through the stiffness that builds up overnight is the worst part. After that it’s just a limp and some discomfort. Can’t take my dog Haku for decent walks, though - he has to make do with the back yard for now.

The shop I slipped in front of had let another inch of uncleared ice build up the next morning (yesterday). I went in and read them Leviticus (German expression for “riot act”). Dimwit cutie at the counter made excuses, said they had put down salt. On top of an inch of ice! I told them they had to chip the ice down to the pavement and then worry about salt! Two minutes later the cook - only guy there - was out doing what should have been done before they opened up.

The merchants on that block are mostly a disgrace about these things. I’m surprised they haven’t all been sued before.

By the way, do your inquisition duties include verify LGF karma? Wouldn’t that be a bitch…

872 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:29:12pm

re: #855 Nevergiveup

The drones probably send back to Israel whatever they’re sending to Turkey.
Soon, we’ll see youtube videos of the way the Turks treat the Kurds.

873 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:29:46pm

re: #869 Shr_Nfr

For a while they were trying to shut down a lot of gun clubs over “lead in the environment”.

Okay, I’ll take a full-auto M4 with military-issue tungsten ammo. Problem solved.

874 ArmyWife  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:31:11pm

re: #868 Bloodnok

boo.

875 Cognito  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:31:45pm

re: #451 Soona’

If it’s not government bailout money, then it’s none of our business.

Um, yes, it is.

876 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:31:50pm

re: #860 Occasional Reader

I already have 2 Senators and one fat purple Dinosaur who do a pretty good job of theft on me already. Not to mention a state that is overspending on anything and everything but the things they need.

877 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:32:30pm

re: #873 Occasional Reader

lol

878 jcbunga  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:32:48pm

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but here’s an article The One won’t enjoy:

“Obama’s remarks about the Israel-Palestine issue were so trite as to merit no analysis. He said he was sending former Sen. George Mitchell to listen to all sides - as if the world has not been hearing their stories for more than six decades.”

[Link: www.nypost.com…]

879 quickjustice  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:34:56pm

re: #855 Nevergiveup

Back in the 1920s, Ataturk took Turkey away from the sultans and Islamists. Wearing the fez was banned. Turkey began using the Roman alphabet. Turks began wearing western clothes. Hagia Sophia was converted from a mosque to a museum.

It’s a shame to watch Turkey reverting to barbarism.

880 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:35:40pm

re: #852 FurryOldGuyJeans

The O booster has basically called us liars since we won’t believe his words of how well O did in school. Now you try applying logic and facts to faith in The One. That ain’t cricket! ;)

Never in the short time I’ve been on here have I called anyone a liar, engaged in name calling or the rest. If someone posts the opinion that Obama got into Harvard because of affirmative action, I may post a contrary opinion.
A opinion is neither truth or a lie, it’s but a opinion.

881 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:36:03pm

re: #836 The Shadow Do

Executive privilege redux?

He wasn’t an executive then the deal was negotiated. HA! Don’t wait for the translation; answer the question!\

882 callahan23  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:36:25pm

re: #850 mean Gene

I found a personal new favorite from real African provers online…..
“Don’t tell the man who is carrying you that he stinks.”

Don’t know exactly what it means but anyway here it goes:

“The lizard that jumped from the high iroko tree to the ground said he would praise himself if no one else did.”
883 calcajun  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:36:59pm

re: #879 quickjustice

Back in the 1920s, Ataturk took Turkey away from the sultans and Islamists. Wearing the fez was banned. Turkey began using the Roman alphabet. Turks began wearing western clothes. Hagia Sophia was converted from a mosque to a museum.

It’s a shame to watch Turkey reverting to barbarism.

Yeah—and a fez just looks stupid on anyone not driving a little car in a parade.

884 quickjustice  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:38:38pm

re: #880 avanti

Obama got into Harvard law school based upon the recommendations of allies of Tom Ayers and former Democratic Manhattan Borough President Percy Sutton, who received a recommendation of Obama from an Arab business partner of his.

He had powerful allies.

885 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:39:22pm

re: #847 Shr_Nfr

You wind up with arguments about compelling state interest vs rational interest. The state has a compelling interest to protect the POTUS. It only has a rational interest to protect me. It makes all the difference in equal protection stuff. But I do get really pissed off at these guys who live in these protected compounds telling me I shouldn’t be able to defend me and mine in my own house. They finally changed the law in MA so that I don’t have to retreat from my own house before I can shoot somebody. Previously I had to. You still have to try and disengage outside your house, but at least one thing has improved.

I live in WA, another Class III state, with shall issue concealed permits, a no retreat state very close to Castle law. My reasoning works like this, “shall not be infringed” is a right enshrined by the 2nd Amend of the Federal Constitution. Therefore it does fall under the 14th. Illinois is the worst state, Currently they do not enjoy the 2nd to the same extent that I do.

886 Eowyn2  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:40:11pm

re: #295 karmic_inquisitor

It is all here - List of US Underground Bases

Check to see if any of the bases in your home state have been compromised!

not an accurate report.

887 jcm  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:43:43pm

re: #886 Eowyn2

not an accurate report.

What do you mean “not accurate?”

2. Mt. St. Helens, Washington
Function: thought to be electromagnetic/ultra- and subsound research

Sheesh, we lost containment on the MarkIV on May, 18 1980. What freaking mess that was.
;-)

888 gregg  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:43:46pm

re: #813 Nevergiveup

Former President George W. Bush and wife Laura attended Wednesday’s game. The two entered several minutes before the opening tip, flanking Lady Bears coach Kim Mulkey, and received a prolonged standing ovation from the fans at the Ferrell Center. The group was engulfed by photographers and camera crews at the Oklahoma bench.

Go for it Mr. President.

Here’s a video of the rousing welcome, for those interested:

[Link: cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com…]

889 quickjustice  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:45:42pm

More about Obama’s admission to Harvard Law School here:

[Link: www.theobamafile.com…]

“But new questions have been raised about Obama’s student loans and Obama’s ties to a radical Muslim activist who reportedly was raising money for Obama’s Harvard studies during the years 1988 to 1991.

The allegations first surfaced in late March, when former Manhattan Borough president Percy Sutton told a New York cable channel that a former business partner who was “raising money” for Obama had approached him in 1988 to help Obama get into Harvard Law School.

In this video interview, Sutton says he first heard of Obama about twenty years ago from Khalid Al-Mansour, who Sutton described as advisor to “one of the world’s richest men,” Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal.

Prince Alwaleed catapulted to fame in the United States after the September 11 attacks, when New York mayor Rudy Guiliani refused his $10 million check to help rebuild Manhattan, because the Saudi prince hinted publicly that America’s pro-Israel policies were to blame for the attacks.

Sutton knew Al-Mansour well, since the two men had been business partners and served on several corporate boards together.

As Sutton remembered, Al-Mansour was raising money for Obama’s education and seeking recommendations for him to attend Harvard Law School.”

“I was introduced to (Obama) by a friend who was raising money for him,” Sutton told NY1 city hall reporter Dominic Carter. “The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas.”

Apparently, al-Mansour serves on the Board of, among others, Saudi African Bank and was responsible for the Africa investment activities of Kingdom Holdings, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal’s investment company.

890 Throbert McGee  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:51:27pm

re: #862 avanti

There was the drunk college kid that whipped out a small Soviet flag for a second while on camera, but the other kids took it away.

Heh-heh! Years ago I gave my ex a Soviet Army winter hat that I’d gotten in Moscow. (The generic Russian name for this kind of winter hat with earflaps, by the way, whether military-style faux-fur, or real fur, or fleece, is ушанкаushánka, pronounced like “ew-SHONK-uh”)

He showed up wearing it when he came down from NYC for the Obama Coronation — but he’d taken the hammer-and-sickle insignia off, lest anyone think that an Obama supporter was an actual Commie.

891 MacGiolaPhadraig  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:53:14pm

“When in danger or in doubt….” isn’t original to Heinlein.
I remember it from the Cain Mutiny. See [Link: www.wordwizard.com…]

892 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:56:04pm

re: #888 gregg

Here’s a video of the rousing welcome, for those interested:

[Link: cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com…]

I miss him already. The LSM will not be able to keep the lid on the American publics enthusiasm for George W. Bush.

893 avanti  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 3:56:35pm

re: #884 quickjustice

Obama got into Harvard law school based upon the recommendations of allies of Tom Ayers and former Democratic Manhattan Borough President Percy Sutton, who received a recommendation of Obama from an Arab business partner of his.

He had powerful allies.

And his daddy was a grad,, from the current Harvard web page:

Are a student’s chances of admission enhanced if a relative has attended Harvard ?

The application process is the same for all candidates. Among a group of similarly distinguished applicants, the daughters and sons of College alumni/ae may receive an additional look.
Back in Obama’s day, legacy admissions were very common.

894 Throbert McGee  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 4:01:01pm

re: #890 Throbert McGee

(The generic Russian name for this kind of winter hat with earflaps, by the way, whether military-style faux-fur, or real fur, or fleece, is ушанкаushánka, pronounced like “ew-SHONK-uh”)

I forgot to add (not that anyone cares) that ushi means “ears” in Russian — thus, the word ushanka literally translates to something like “thingamajig for the ears.” (Although it has to be outer-space cold before a Real Russian Man will fold down the earflaps on his ushanka.)

895 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:07:43pm

re: #894 Throbert McGee

I forgot to add (not that anyone cares) that ushi means “ears” in Russian — thus, the word ushanka literally translates to something like “thingamajig for the ears.” (Although it has to be outer-space cold before a Real Russian Man will fold down the earflaps on his ushanka.)

If their ears aren’t turning blue, the flaps stay up?

896 [deleted]  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 5:39:44pm
897 TedStriker  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 7:39:07pm

re: #842 Silhouette

This doesn’t address treatment of troops, but I can report that a co-worker, a hardcore worshipper at the church of Obama, went to the inauguration. So realize he is not exactly eager to say bad things about the crowd.

When we discussed that Bush was booed, he said that the media was being VERY kind and that it was, in reality, very ugly.

Very.

Ugly.

When I hear of incidents like this (almost always involving leftists), I think about Fallen Angels by David Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Michael Flynn…pisses me off when I think of what may happen if the leftists, socialists, and environazis succeed in getting their hands fully around the nation’s throat. The only thing we can do to defend liberty and freedom is to fight them at every turn…

898 jcbunga  Thu, Jan 29, 2009 8:13:12pm

By 1939 Roosevelt’s own Treasury secretary, Henry Morgenthau, had realized that the New Deal economic policies had failed. “We have tried spending money,” Morgenthau wrote in his diary. “We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work… . After eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started… . And an enormous debt to boot!”

Nuff said.

899 casoriole  Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:35:31am

Here’s a link to where this quote originated. For some reason I though Bilbo Baggins said it, but I guess not.

http://www.wordwizard.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=19330


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Goleta Park Our Sunday GetawayWe drove 80 miles up to this favorite spot. The weather was nice, the tides accommodating, and the waves calm. Too calm. Instead of ocean and beach, we shot wildlife in the brackish creek.
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Train Songs Nine
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Snarky Puppy - Trinity (Extended Version) Snarky Puppy never lets you down, they always come out bright and enthusiastically high on the sounds. Snarky Puppy - Trinity (Extended Version)From Snarky Puppy's new album, Empire Central (September 2022, GroundUP Music)Stream/Buy: orcd.co Written by Mark LettieriArranged by ...
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