Breaking: Michael Steele New Chair of RNC
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Just coming over the news: Michael Steele will be the new head of the RNC…
437 comments
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:09:51pm |
Next question: Can Steele give the RNC some backbone?
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:10:49pm |
Lefties posting racist photoshopped picture of Michael Steele in 5…4…3…
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:10:52pm |
Wow, the RNC actually having the balls to not RINO us to death.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:11:25pm |
re: #4 gmsc
Lefties posting racist photoshopped picture of Michael Steele in 5…4…3…
Don’t they have some left over from the MD senate race?
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:11:29pm |
Congrats to Michael Steele of Maryland.
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:11:33pm |
What was the “complete” list of candidates at the beginning?
Anybody got a link?
Steele was my #1 choice, no matter what the list was.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:11:50pm |
re: #4 gmsc
Lefties posting racist photoshopped picture of Michael Steele in 5…4…3…
And complain starting yesterday if there is even a hint O would get similar treatment.
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:12:01pm |
re: #2 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Good news for a change.
About the first good news I’ve heard this year.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:12:07pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:12:22pm |
Good. At least now we can have some leadership. Steele is a good leader. He’ll do fine.
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Kragar Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:12:38pm |
Well, off to my kids school. My older girl won an award for outstanding citizenship, same one her sister won back in October. Promised them I’d take them out to dinner.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:12:47pm |
I think it’s probably a good thing. I don’t know as much about Steele as I would like to, but he seems very sound.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:12:53pm |
re: #8 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Don’t they have some left over from the MD senate race?
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:12:56pm |
re: #12 lobo91
About the first good news I’ve heard this year.
I considered Obama challenging Rush, and Rush accepting the challenge the first good news.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:12:59pm |
re: #5 FurryOldGuyJeans
Wow, the RNC actually having the balls to not RINO us to death.
This and the unanimous vote against the pork…er… bailout bill.
The patient is still in trouble, but it does have a pulse.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:13:06pm |
re: #15 MJ
It’s a start…
Will he drag the Republicans to the finish line and in 1st place is the follow-up.
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Dotcoman Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:13:06pm |
Woo whoo!
And unlike some in the RNC he can speak and spell Conservative. and uses it regularly in context without breaking out in a rash, or having a thyroid swell up like McCain.
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trailortrash Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:13:21pm |
congrats to her (them) Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) :)
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Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:13:24pm |
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true.
Can I just resign from the right-wing blogosphere? I never joined anyway.
How stupid and embarrassing.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:14:01pm |
re: #11 FurryOldGuyJeans
And complain starting yesterday if there is even a hint O would get similar treatment.
Hey, any time they post something racially tinged about Steele, I’m all for replying, “You mean like Barack 0bama?”
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:14:08pm |
Good luck Mr. Steele. You’re going to need it to rebuild this broken party. Go back to the basics. Work on the ground game. Work the Internet.
But most of all focus on what should have been strengths of the RNC and the GOP in general - national security, economic policy, and energy policy.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:14:28pm |
Plus, “Michael Steele” is such a perfect, straight-out-of-Central-Casting name for a US President. Doubtless when he gets to the Oval Office, he’ll name Dirk Pitt as his National Security Advisor.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:14:36pm |
re: #21 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
This and the unanimous vote against the pork…er… bailout bill.
The patient is still in trouble, but it does have a pulse.
The rejection of the pork bill was House GOP, not the national party. Steele means what started in the house could take over the entire neighborhood.
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Doctor Bulldog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:14:38pm |
Dang, Charles! You’re quick!
LOL
I was just about to post a link to this story, but you beat me to it.
Cheers
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snopercod Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:14:57pm |
re: #1 gmsc
Next question: Can Steele give the RNC some backbone?
In his acceptance speech, he said “To those who would obstruct, get ready to be knocked over.”
For the first time in many years, I may actually send some money to the RNC.
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Dr. Shalit Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:14:59pm |
The only downside is that he was available and NOT US Senator from Maryland.
-S-
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code red 21 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:15:06pm |
re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Well, off to my kids school. My older girl won an award for outstanding citizenship, same one her sister won back in October. Promised them I’d take them out to dinner.
That is wonderful you are doing a great job raising your children. Congratulations and if I could I’d buy them dessert.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:15:07pm |
re: #25 Charles
Resign? Does that mean I could get your office? /
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LGoPs Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:15:21pm |
Repost from last thread:
I’m just waiting to see the twisted pretzel convolutions the democrats put themselves through to denounce Steele. No doubt to them, he will not be authentic…..whatever the fuck that means……..
*spit*
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Ringo the Gringo Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:15:27pm |
Good, he was my choice.
Steele articulates the conservative message better than anyone else out there. And he does it with an easy smile.
He’s sincerely a nice, likable person.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:15:27pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true.
Can I just resign from the right-wing blogosphere? I never joined anyway.
Make your own… the “Up-wing Blogosphere”.
/3D it is so _in_ these days.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:15:31pm |
re: #34 Dr. Shalit
The only downside is that he was available and NOT US Senator from Maryland.
-S-
No, but it also means that he’s in a position to set himself up for a run in 2012.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:15:46pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true.
Can I just resign from the right-wing blogosphere? I never joined anyway.
Sorry, Charlie. Once you’re in, you can’t get out. And don’t worry too much, the story will burn itself out by tomorrow.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:15:52pm |
re: #31 Doctor Bulldog
Dang, Charles! You’re quick!
LOL
I was just about to post a link to this story, but you beat me to it.Cheers
…for those who missed the first 634 links to the pledge satire story.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:16:09pm |
re: #27 gmsc
Hey, any time they post something racially tinged about Steele, I’m all for replying, “You mean like Barack 0bama?”
Do expect doing that to get you called a racist.
I expected from day one not being an O worshiper got me that, and so far I have not been wrong one bit.
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:16:17pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true.
Can I just resign from the right-wing blogosphere? I never joined anyway.
No. You were drafted. We will find you even if you flee to Canada.
I personally think the ODS is worth a thread.
That would either vindicate you or leave you with a handful of lizards.
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offendi Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:16:19pm |
He is an intelligent and good guy, but dems will actively portray him as being the Republican ” House Negro”.
Steele has to have ” audacity” and aggressiveness to keep on.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:17:09pm |
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ashan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:17:19pm |
Happy day! Steele’s the real deal!
Can’t wait till the 2010 elections.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:17:21pm |
re: #45 ggt
I felt weirdly proud of myself that I managed to re-check his Wiki profile after hearing the news, but before it was updated… probably catching it during that 10-second window of opportunity!
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Doctor Bulldog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:17:26pm |
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:17:35pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true.
Can I just resign from the right-wing blogosphere? I never joined anyway.
How stupid and embarrassing.
That’s why you are an anti-idiotarian. Idiotarianism is to be found on both sides of the aisle whether it be the moonbats on the Left, or the creationists on the Right. Both side have their loons and conspiracy theorists.
Many of us come here because the place is anti-idiotarian and does not subscribe to the troofer, nirth certifikate, creationist, monnbatty madness found on so many other sites.
Keep up the good work, Charles.
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code red 21 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:18:25pm |
What a great choice…he would also be a good choice for POTUS.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:18:34pm |
re: #49 FurryOldGuyJeans
Why would that be surprising? Any idiot can edit wiki.
They can… and they do.
/not always accurately.
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snopercod Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:18:43pm |
re: #37 Iron Fist
That ain’t gonna happen, at least not for the next four years.
Possibly true, but we need to use that time to bring the people around to our way of thinking. When Mexico (3rd-biggest oil supplier to the U.S.) falls into chaos later this year, you might be surprised how quickly things change.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:18:48pm |
re: #29 Occasional Reader
Plus, “Michael Steele” is such a perfect, straight-out-of-Central-Casting name for a US President. Doubtless when he gets to the Oval Office, he’ll name Dirk Pitt as his National Security Advisor.
Well, you do know that Michael has a cousin named Remington.
/
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:18:50pm |
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yma o hyd Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:19:09pm |
re: #54 Honorary Yooper
That’s why you are an anti-idiotarian. Idiotarianism is to be found on both sides of the aisle whether it be the moonbats on the Left, or the creationists on the Right. Both side have their loons and conspiracy theorists.
Many of us come here because the place is anti-idiotarian and does not subscribe to the troofer, nirth certifikate, creationist, monnbatty madness found on so many other sites.
Keep up the good work, Charles.
Wholeheartedly seconded!
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:19:27pm |
re: #48 offendi
He is an intelligent and good guy, but dems will actively portray him as being the Republican ” House Negro”.
Steele has to have ” audacity” and aggressiveness to keep on.
Yes. Wouldn’t want to risk the briar patch, would we Brer’?
I want the Dems to loudly shout “House Negro” for 4 years.
If you were Obama, would you (a) defend Steele, or (b) remain silent?
Which would be worse?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:19:41pm |
re: #25 Charles
I was asking for proof of this being satire and bogus, and without you and the lizard army I wouldn’t have had the resource.
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Ben Hur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:19:56pm |
The only reason Republicans voted for Steele is because he’s black.
/Dems.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:20:06pm |
re: #56 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
They can… and they do.
/not always accurately.
Nearly never accurately, don’t you mean? ;)
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avanti Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:20:11pm |
re: #8 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Don’t they have some left over from the MD senate race?
He was pretty popular in my home state of Md. He distanced himself on Bush, ran as a moderate Republican. He got a lot of flack from the right for opposing the death penalty, and the left called him a Oreo cookie. I think he’s a good choice for your side in the long run.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:20:17pm |
re: #49 FurryOldGuyJeans
Why would that be surprising? Any idiot can edit wiki.
I’m old and still constantly amazed by the speed of communications in the new millenium administration.
:0
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Kragar Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:20:43pm |
re: #61 jwb7605
Yes. Wouldn’t want to risk the briar patch, would we Brer’?
I want the Dems to loudly shout “House Negro” for 4 years.
If you were Obama, would you (a) defend Steele, or (b) remain silent?
Which would be worse?
C) present
OK, now I’m going, had to wait on the wife
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Globular Cluster Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:20:53pm |
Steele was my dream pick for the to lead Republicans back to relevance. Awesome news.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:21:03pm |
re: #55 code red 21
What a great choice…he would also be a good choice for POTUS.
I’d like him to get more executive/command experience first. Pity he couldn’t be Governor of Maryland right now, instead of O’Malley.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:22:04pm |
I’ve listened to Michael Steele guest hosting Morning in America for Bill Bennett on a number of occasions…
He’s very solid and an excellent choice.
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babes Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:22:30pm |
When Steele ran for Governor of Maryland, blacks in the audience would throw Oreo cookies at him as he spoke. Also, his credit records were hacked.
I support this guy.
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jcm Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:22:57pm |
STEELE WINS
Yeah, but is clean, articulate and authentic?
Huh?
Huh?
/
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:23:07pm |
re: #64 FurryOldGuyJeans
Nearly never accurately, don’t you mean? ;)
Well somtimes usefully… there are pages there that actually deal with projects I do for work, I’ve been able to update them to fix things that whoever put them there in the first place got wrong.
How about “sometimes accurately”?
Caveat emptor….
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:23:22pm |
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Randall Gross Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:23:39pm |
The only downside: if he’s running the RNC, he’s probably not on a ticket in 2012.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:23:47pm |
Let’s hope his leadership carries the day in 2010.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:23:47pm |
re: #74 jcm
STEELE WINS
Yeah, but is clean, articulate and authentic?
Huh?
Huh?/
he is certainly better looking than Obama.
;)
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:23:54pm |
What does the RNC Chairman do?
Who are the cardinals that get to vote?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:24:08pm |
re: #66 ggt
I’m old and still constantly amazed by the speed of communications in the new
milleniumadministration.:0
I’m 50, and have always been blasé with the speed of communications since I have always been interested in the technology.
Call me GeekyFurryOldGuyJeans, if you want. ;)
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:24:19pm |
re: #74 jcm
STEELE WINS
Yeah, but is clean, articulate and authentic?
Huh?
Huh?/
Well, he is more articulate than Obama.
He’s more authentic and genuine than Obama.
He also has a much cleaner background in politics than Obama.
It’s not like Steele supported Rod Blagojevich for governor the way Obama did.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:24:19pm |
Steele should look into getting Flip to work for him.
Just how big is the stimulus porkfest? Huge. Take the biggest spending programs in our nation’s history (louisiana purchase, race to moon, new deal) and combine ‘em all. That begins to approach what the porkfest is going to cost. Or, it’s going to cost more than the combined new deal and the iraq war would cost (and the iraq war costs are based on the critics’ figures, not what it actually runs since they’re conflating standard operating costs of the US military with the iraq operation).
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:24:24pm |
re: #74 jcm
STEELE WINS
Yeah, but is clean, articulate and authentic?
Huh?
Huh?/
No worries! I’ve heard he might be more articulate than even Cynthia McKinney!
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:24:45pm |
re: #77 gmsc
Ask Biden.
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“Steele/Jindal 2012… Clean, articulate, and with a slight Indian accent.”
/I’m Joe Biden, and I approve this message
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:24:46pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true.
Can I just resign from the right-wing blogosphere? I never joined anyway.
Sorry, dude. You can checkout but you can never leave.
How stupid and embarrassing.
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turn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:24:48pm |
re: #63 Ben Hur
The only reason Republicans voted for Steele is because he’s black.
/Dems.
Ben, this comment from dKos:
“They should have just hired Token from South Park (2+ / 0-)
At least be honest about the hire.”
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:24:58pm |
re: #70 Occasional Reader
I’d like him to get more executive/command experience first. Pity he couldn’t be Governor of Maryland right now, instead of O’Malley.
Steele already has more than our current POTUS.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:25:07pm |
re: #78 Thanos
Not necessarily. He needs to get experience, national exposure, and work on his own ground game, and heading up the RNC lets him do all three.
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CommonCents Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:25:27pm |
re: #78 Thanos
The only downside: if he’s running the RNC, he’s probably not on a ticket in 2012.
I was just about to ask, when was the last time the leader of the RNC moved over to the ticket.
p.s. saw your comment on LWJ, that Paki PM is nuts.
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MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:25:38pm |
This is interesting.
The US expects Israel to “make peace” and give it’s security concerns over to the PA. However, the US doesn’t trust the PA with the extra 20 million dollars it’s giving the Palestinians. The US trusts UNRWA more than the PA!
QUESTION: Robert, on this – still on the Middle East. When the President was here last week introducing Senator Mitchell, he made some reference to – about how U.S. money – U.S. assistance to the Palestinians would go through the Palestinian Authority. This money, $20.3 million from today, is going to UNRWA and OCHA and ICRC.
MR. WOOD: Mm-hmm.
QUESTION: Has there been a decision made not to funnel money through the Palestinian – not funding money for Gaza though the PA?
MR. WOOD: Well, right now, this particular amount of money that Senator Mitchell announced earlier today is going to UNRWA, ICRC, other organizations, because they are the primary conduits of assistance to the Palestinians. At some point, with regard to the Palestinian Authority, we hope to be able to do that. But at this point, with regard to this amount of money right now, that’s going through those organizations that I mentioned.
Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:31 -0600
January 30, 2009
Daily Press Briefing
Robert Wood
Acting Spokesman
Washington, DC
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:25:41pm |
re: #86 Occasional Reader
“Steele/Jindal 2012… Clean, articulate, and with a slight Indian accent.”
/I’m Joe Biden, and I approve this message
Trying to lock up the Quickie Mart vote?
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avanti Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:25:49pm |
re: #25 Charles
Charles, as you well know, folks on the fringes of both wings will grasp at the most ridiculous crap if it reinforces their fears. It’s certainty not limited to right wing blogs, but I feel your pain. You may recall the GW martial law stories floating around the loonly left. Silly stuff.
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jcm Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:02pm |
re: #85 jwb7605
No worries! I’ve heard he might be more articulate than even Cynthia McKinney!
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I’ve talked to more articulate rocks….
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Globular Cluster Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:03pm |
My only concern about picking Steele is that I worry it will railroad him out of a presidential run later.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:08pm |
re: #82 FurryOldGuyJeans
I’m 50, and have always been blasé with the speed of communications since I have always been interested in the technology.
Call me GeekyFurryOldGuyJeans, if you want. ;)
Much too long and complicated, how ‘bout just Furry?
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tfc3rid Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:11pm |
re: #75 Iron Fist
If Sen. Gregg is offered and accepts Commerce Secy. we won’t even be able to filibuster at all…
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:15pm |
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code red 21 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:18pm |
re: #70 Occasional Reader
I’d like him to get more executive/command experience first. Pity he couldn’t be Governor of Maryland right now, instead of O’Malley.
He’s got more experience than BO and by heading up the Republican Party he’ll have even more.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:28pm |
re: #92 Alouette
Palin/Steele ‘12
Heh. I’d love to see the moonbats’ heads explode upon seeing that.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:45pm |
re: #29 Occasional Reader
Plus, “Michael Steele” is such a perfect, straight-out-of-Central-Casting name for a US President. Doubtless when he gets to the Oval Office, he’ll name Dirk Pitt as his National Security Advisor.
Rip Steakface!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:53pm |
re: #92 Alouette
Palin/Steele ‘12
Or Steele/Palin ‘12. Either works for me.
But your combo would be SWEET having a woman as POTUS candidate. ;)
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tfc3rid Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:55pm |
re: #83 Honorary Yooper
Obama supported Blago? Coulda fooled me…
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:26:55pm |
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:27:09pm |
re: #84 lawhawk
Steele should look into getting Flip to work for him.
Just how big is the stimulus porkfest? Huge. Take the biggest spending programs in our nation’s history (louisiana purchase, race to moon, new deal) and combine ‘em all. That begins to approach what the porkfest is going to cost. Or, it’s going to cost more than the combined new deal and the iraq war would cost (and the iraq war costs are based on the critics’ figures, not what it actually runs since they’re conflating standard operating costs of the US military with the iraq operation).
It might still get shot down. Its chances of Senate passage seem uncertain. Anyone with a Senator they can get to oppose it should contact said Senator now. Let’s make sure Obama loses this vote.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:27:17pm |
So, I guess this means the Steelers will win, huh?
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:27:24pm |
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:27:27pm |
re: #103 Honorary Yooper
Heh. I’d love to see the moonbats’ heads explode
upon seeing that.
Oops. FTFY and M!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:27:35pm |
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:27:59pm |
re: #97 Globular Cluster
My only concern about picking Steele is that I worry it will railroad him out of a presidential run later.
They need to focus on 2010?
Does Steele get to actually recruit/pick candidates and distribute cash now? Or is a Chairman just the moutpiece?
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:28:09pm |
re: #102 jcm
Wait, wait, that doesn’t sound right…..
;-)
Is it easier to win a debate with a rock?
Probably.
Rhetorical question, I guess.
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:28:12pm |
re: #90 lawhawk
Not necessarily. He needs to get experience, national exposure, and work on his own ground game, and heading up the RNC lets him do all three.
He’d have to resign in order to run, though. No way they’d let a sitting party chairman run for president at the same time, because there’d be no way to separate party expenditures from campaign expenditures.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:28:18pm |
re: #106 tfc3rid
Obama supported Blago? Coulda fooled me…
Didn’t you know that not actively throwing someone under the bus IS support from the O.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:28:20pm |
OT, but I’ve been waiting hours for a new Hopen thread: The Greatest Snack Food Stadium Ever Built
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:28:35pm |
re: #104 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Rip Steakface!
You mean Secretary of State Steakface? He’s in a meeting with DCI Slabchest at the moment.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:28:36pm |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:28:38pm |
re: #109 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
So, I guess this means the Steelers will win, huh?
My moneys on them. Ugh not that I’m betting or anything?
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Kenneth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:28:39pm |
re: #95 avanti
Charles, as you well know, folks on the fringes of both wings will grasp at the most ridiculous crap if it reinforces their fears. It’s certainty not limited to right wing blogs, but I feel your pain. You may recall the GW martial law stories floating around the loonly left. Silly stuff.
I heard Bush has gone back to his ranch to clear scrub brush and get it ready for the prison camp he’s building. BTW, that’s really how Cheney hurt his back.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:29:03pm |
re: #97 Globular Cluster
My only concern about picking Steele is that I worry it will railroad him out of a presidential run later.
Right now ‘10 is the battleground. If we piss that away we can forget about ‘12.
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Randall Gross Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:29:26pm |
re: #90 lawhawk
Not necessarily. He needs to get experience, national exposure, and work on his own ground game, and heading up the RNC lets him do all three.
It could happen, I just haven’t seen it in recent history.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:29:27pm |
Senator Gillebrand here in NY voted against the Bush Bailout bill last year. There is a chance she might vote against this one too…
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:29:29pm |
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code red 21 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:29:53pm |
re: #84 lawhawk
I’ll never look at a barbecue pork sandwich the same way again after reading your post. The donks are ruining the country and making pork less tasty.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:30:04pm |
re: #124 Thanos
It could happen, I just haven’t seen it in recent history.
Nobody thought an actor would win the presidency either.
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yochanan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:30:11pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true.
Can I just resign from the right-wing blogosphere? I never joined anyway.
How stupid and embarrassing.
DINGBAT is just the right wing version of MOONBAT
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:30:12pm |
re: #118 JustABill
So, Steele/Palin, or Palin/Steele?
Palin/Steele. She’s held a higher elected office.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:30:12pm |
re: #125 tfc3rid
Senator Gillebrand here in NY voted against the Bush Bailout bill last year. There is a chance she might vote against this one too…
She is the closets thing to a Republican Senator in the area
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VioletTiger Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:30:12pm |
I’m pleased.
Michael Steele had a lot of support from a variety of sources.
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:30:12pm |
re: #113 DeafDog
They need to focus on 2010?
Does Steele get to actually recruit/pick candidates and distribute cash now? Or is a Chairman just the moutpiece?
Recruit and distribute.
Candidates are typically picked by the “locals”. Sometimes, but not always, they are recruited.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:30:22pm |
this is a good choice on a number of levels, but two are most important:
1. Steele can criticize Obama and avoid being tagged a racist.
2. The party will have a smart, glib African American role model who can recruit for the party in areas that whites may not have access to.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:30:45pm |
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:31:01pm |
re: #128 FurryOldGuyJeans
Nobody thought an actor would win the presidency either.
or a commedian in the Senate?
:0
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:31:26pm |
re: #127 code red 21
I’ll never look at a barbecue pork sandwich the same way again after reading your post. The donks are ruining the country and making pork less tasty.
Remember, pork should be the other white meat, what one eats, not what one need stuff in a spending bill.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:31:34pm |
re: #120 Dark_Falcon
I am Apu, and I approve this message.
I am Apu, a frequent crossword puzzle answer.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:31:50pm |
re: #108 Dark_Falcon
Don’t fool yourself. The Democrats have the votes to pass it without the GOP assisting. Depending on the Coleman/Franken mess, they could have filibuster proof numbers.
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Randall Gross Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:32:03pm |
re: #25 Charles
… and the worst are full of passionate intensity.
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:32:15pm |
re: #113 DeafDog
Does Steele get to actually recruit/pick candidates and distribute cash now? Or is a Chairman just the moutpiece?
The national party doesn’t pick candidates, but it does have a pot of money under its control. Some of it can be given to candidates directly, but most is used for “independent expenditures” in targeted districts.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:32:17pm |
re: #129 yochanan
DINGBAT is just the right wing version of MOONBAT
I thought dingbat was someone who stealth dinged on LGF….
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:32:21pm |
re: #138 ggt
or a commedian in the Senate?
Since when was Al Franken funny? Does one need be funny first to be a commedian?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:32:56pm |
re: #129 yochanan
DINGBAT is just the right wing version of MOONBAT
Stifle yourself, Edith!
/Archie Bunker
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:33:21pm |
re: #136 Honorary Yooper
Since when did Apu get to Chicago?
Springfield is only a couple hour’s drive from Chicago. ;)
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:33:32pm |
Mullen Says Close to 30,000 New Soldiers Likely for Afghanistan
I just hope they have a strategy? And I have my doubts.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:33:37pm |
re: #142 lawhawk
Don’t fool yourself. The Democrats have the votes to pass it without the GOP assisting. Depending on the Coleman/Franken mess, they could have filibuster proof numbers.
Then they pass it without the GOP and OWN the spending bill. When it fails, as indeed it will, there will be no one else to lay blame on.
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godfrey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:34:03pm |
re: #146 Honorary Yooper
Good question. Stuart Smalley wasn’t funny, just sort of pathetic, and it made you wonder why Franken even bothered to create him.
Franken is 100% hack.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:34:04pm |
Maybe Michael Steele can twist the arms of State GOP leaders to close the Primaries…
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:34:39pm |
re: #148 Dark_Falcon
Springfield is only a couple hour’s drive from Chicago. ;)
Yeah, but too far for Blagojevich to go on a consistent basis.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:34:43pm |
re: #134 _RememberTonyC
this is a good choice on a number of levels, but two are most important:
1. Steele can criticize Obama and avoid being tagged a racist.
2. The party will have a smart, glib African American role model who can recruit for the party in areas that whites may not have access to.
These things are important only if the Republicans can get back to winning elections.
The chairman’s goal #1 is to win elections, no?
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FrogMarch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:34:46pm |
Steele is awesome.
Good for him and good for the Republicans.
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debutaunt Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:34:47pm |
re: #63 Ben Hur
The only reason Republicans voted for Steele is because he’s black.
/Dems.
The only reason Democrats voted for Obama is because he’s a socialist.
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fatdaddy Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:34:48pm |
2010 should be interesting…
…finally some good news about the GOP national.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:11pm |
Market update:
The Dow finished down 1.82%. the S&P down 2.28%.
Declining issues led gainers by a ratio of almost 3 to 1.
Since Obama was sworn in the S&P is down 3% and the Dow is down 3.4%.
The S&P dropped 8.6% for the month, it’s worst January on record.
In good news, the NYT stock price dropped to within 2 cents of its 52 week low, closing at $4.97 a share.
Also:
Gannett to take charge of up to $5.2 billion
CHICAGO (MarketWatch) — Gannett Co., the largest U.S. newspaper publisher, said Friday that it will take non-cash charges of as much as $5.2 billion against financial results for the fourth quarter, as a number of its assets have diminished in value because of the worldwide financial crisis.On a preliminary basis, the publisher of USA Today and owner of 23 television stations said profit fell 36% to $158 million, or 69 cents a share, in the quarter ended Dec. 28, compared with net income of $245.3 million, or $1.06 a share, in the year-earlier period.
Get this, here’s one good reason for the drop in value for MSM entities:
Media companies are required to note the book value of their goodwill — a series of intangible assets such as brand names, mastheads, intellectual properties and subscriber lists.
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songbird Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:23pm |
I’m very pleased to hear this!
All the best to Michael Steele!
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:26pm |
re: #152 godfrey
Good question. Stuart Smalley wasn’t funny, just sort of pathetic, and it made you wonder why Franken even bothered to create him.
Franken is 100% hack.
I guess you never knew anyone like Stuart Smalley. He’s much funnier when he’s making fun of people you met.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:28pm |
re: #136 Honorary Yooper
Since when did Abu get to Chicago?
It’s “Apu”. “Abu” runs the Splodey Mart.
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Randall Gross Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:36pm |
Someone upthread asked who the RNC was, here’s where to join if so inclined:
Michael Steele will lead efforts to sharpen and focus the Republican message, determine which states and seats get fought for the hardest, do his best to raise a lot of money for campaigns, and make one hell of a lot of TV appearances rebutting Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:36pm |
Let the clean up begin. The RNC just made a strategic choice: RINO or Conservative.
They chose conservative.
Let’s ditch the remaining RINOs and start rewarding/electing real conservatives.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:41pm |
re: #138 ggt
or a commedian in the Senate?
:0
Franken is not a comedian, nor is he funny.
Has he been confirmed as winning the run-off vote counts? Last word I heard it was still on-going.
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avanti Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:44pm |
re: #142 lawhawk
Don’t fool yourself. The Democrats have the votes to pass it without the GOP assisting. Depending on the Coleman/Franken mess, they could have filibuster proof numbers.
And Obama is trying to charm a sitting Republican Senator to join his cabinet at Commerce.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:49pm |
I know Sarah Palin has a lot of fans on the blog, and I do consider her a quality individual. But if the Republicans think she has a chance at the top of the ticket, I think they’re wrong. However, if over the next 2-3 years she shows me more than I have seen so far, I would at least consider her. But if the folksy, down to earth lady we saw in 2008 is the same one we see in the future, she has no shot and the Republicans need to understand that. Republicans need someone new that has NOT lost a national election. Even if you like Palin, the loss in 2008 taints her,
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Florida Lady Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:49pm |
I’m very happy. Michael Steele is an awesome and charismatic speaker. He will do the party a lot of good!
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snowcrash Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:35:56pm |
Dem. callers on CSpan already calling Steeles chairmanship a “ploy” by white republican members.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:36:01pm |
re: #141 DeafDog
I am Apu, a frequent crossword puzzle answer.
“ai” is the best!
wait, I think that is Scrabble, not crosswords.
?
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babes Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:36:03pm |
re: #153 tfc3rid
Maybe Michael Steele can twist the arms of State GOP leaders to close the Primaries…
I hope that he does this also.
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yochanan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:36:13pm |
re: #150 Nevergiveup
Mullen Says Close to 30,000 New Soldiers Likely for Afghanistan
[Link: www.bloomberg.com…]
I just hope they have a strategy? And I have my doubts.
I WILL SUPPORT THE TROOPS who ever is commander in chief.
that is what makes us different.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:36:23pm |
re: #146 Honorary Yooper
Since when was Al Franken funny? Does one need be funny first to be a commedian?
Well he made a living doing it … .
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godfrey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:36:23pm |
re: #160 3 wood
The “book value of their goodwill”? Wow. Who slipped that one through?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:36:47pm |
FRIDAY, JANUARY 30, 2009
Journalists Under Fire… Gaza Cameraman Seriously Burned Filming Flag Torching Protest
Bummer.
They were torching Old Glory but the cameraman got cooked.
Marshmallows?
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code red 21 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:36:56pm |
re: #151 Honorary Yooper
Then they pass it without the GOP and OWN the spending bill. When it fails, as indeed it will, there will be no one else to lay blame on.
After they get rid of talk radio their won’t be anybody to point their fingers at the reason our country went down the toilet. MSM, not hardly.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:37:05pm |
re: #150 Nevergiveup
Mullen Says Close to 30,000 New Soldiers Likely for Afghanistan
[Link: www.bloomberg.com…]
I just hope they have a strategy? And I have my doubts.
An aggressive, ramped-up campaign of apologies.
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songbird Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:37:24pm |
re: #170 snowcrash
Dem. callers on CSpan already calling Steeles chairmanship a “ploy” by white republican members.
Let me guess…..Dems are playing the race card?
/MLK spins in grave!
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:37:28pm |
re: #150 Nevergiveup
Mullen Says Close to 30,000 New Soldiers Likely for Afghanistan.
I just hope they have a strategy? And I have my doubts.
That’s not really news. It’s been in the works for awhile, now.
It would be nice if we could get more than a handful of the NATO troops to actually, um, fight, as well. Most of them aren’t really doing all that much.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:37:35pm |
re: #168 _RememberTonyC
I know Sarah Palin has a lot of fans on the blog, and I do consider her a quality individual. But if the Republicans think she has a chance at the top of the ticket, I think they’re wrong. However, if over the next 2-3 years she shows me more than I have seen so far, I would at least consider her. But if the folksy, down to earth lady we saw in 2008 is the same one we see in the future, she has no shot and the Republicans need to understand that. Republicans need someone new that has NOT lost a national election. Even if you like Palin, the loss in 2008 taints her,
That won’t be as big a factor after the trainwreck of the next four years.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:37:36pm |
re: #156 DeafDog
These things are important only if the Republicans can get back to winning elections.
The chairman’s goal #1 is to win elections, no?
It is, but to start that process, first the Republicans must hammer away at Obama and the Dems’ record. And while many whites will feel they have to pull their punches to avoid the racism charge, Steele does not.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:37:39pm |
re: #162 Kosh’s Shadow
I guess you never knew anyone like Stuart Smalley. He’s much funnier when he’s making fun of people you met.
I know of one or two. Mockery of that extent is never funny.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:37:51pm |
re: #146 Honorary Yooper
Since when was Al Franken funny? Does one need be funny first to be a commedian?
Speaking of which, why is it that every time SNL hires a regular cast member whose last name starts with an “F”, they’re never funny?
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godfrey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:37:54pm |
re: #178 Occasional Reader
Send in the fearsome AP stringer missives!
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MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:38:30pm |
Daily Kos Komment:
They should have just hired Token from South Park (6+ / 0-)
At least be honest about the hire.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:38:37pm |
re: #174 ggt
Well he made a living doing it … .
And O made a living being a politician. You want to say he is a success?
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:38:38pm |
re: #175 godfrey
The “book value of their goodwill”? Wow. Who slipped that one through?
Quite common, actually. (Don’t ask me how it’s quantified, though.)
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ashan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:38:51pm |
Steele doesn’t need a teleprompter. No uh’s and um’s. He speaks clearly and emphatically.
He’s not linked to shady individuals or organizations - or terrorists.
He’s no phony. He has a real resume - everything’s on the table.
He’s intelligent.
I’m elated!
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:38:57pm |
re: #166 FurryOldGuyJeans
Franken is not a comedian, nor is he funny.
Has he been confirmed as winning the run-off vote counts? Last word I heard it was still on-going.
hmmmm, good question, but then again, aren’t all the senators de facto commedians? Or just the ones from Illinois?
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offendi Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:38:58pm |
re: #61 jwb7605
Yes. Wouldn’t want to risk the briar patch, would we Brer’?
I want the Dems to loudly shout “House Negro” for 4 years.
If you were Obama, would you (a) defend Steele, or (b) remain silent?
Which would be worse?
I would probably invite him to the WH for a nice photo opp if I were Hussein, and then in a liberal white gathering trash him, lightly, as a sad attempt by Republicans to actually be in touch in the 21st century. If I was Steele I would be out and about in lilly white areas to show its about country and ideas not skin color.
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vagabond trader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:39:20pm |
Congrats to Mr. Steele. Who gives a flip what the dims think or say about him. The Rs need a bold leader now to defeat them, not be their friend.
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VioletTiger Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:39:25pm |
re: #151 Honorary Yooper
Then they pass it without the GOP and OWN the spending bill. When it fails, as indeed it will, there will be no one else to lay blame on.
Yes.
Note GOP Senators: Just say no!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:39:33pm |
re: #184 gmsc
Speaking of which, why is it that every time SNL hires a regular cast member whose last name starts with an “F”, they’re never funny?
SNL has never been funny IMO. Partisan crap is what they excel at, even from the start.
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Globular Cluster Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:39:41pm |
re: #105 FurryOldGuyJeans
Or Steele/Palin ‘12. Either works for me.
But your combo would be SWEET having a woman as POTUS candidate. ;)
Sarah Palin is appeals to socialcons and nobody else. She is not ready, and will never be ready, for the national stage. She is certainly smarter than Nancy Pelosi or Katie Couric, but that isn’t saying much. She should start her own Oprah-style show and be done with it.
She was, and always will be, a deer in the headlights. Your average lizard would have been more articulate in interviews. Sticking her back on a ticket will result in endless mockery, which is cutting because accurate. Don’t get me wrong, she is a good woman and a good governor of Alaska, but we can do much, much better.
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godfrey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:39:42pm |
re: #189 Occasional Reader
Sounds like a proposal I’ve seen to make companies disclose their “carbon footprint,” which would then factor in their valuation. People think you could actually trade on that factor.
/shakin’ me head
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yochanan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:40:01pm |
the term R.I.N.O. if used in here will get a down ding from me. frankly if you want to win you need all REPUBLICANS and even some independents and if we are lucky even a few ‘reagan democrats’
this term creates dis-unity.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:40:04pm |
Now, what do you think the chances are the RNC Chairman Steele will make public statements along the lines of, “I hate the Democrats and everything they stand for”? You know, like DNC Chairman Howard Dean used to do. (I’d say, nil.)
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:40:06pm |
re: #173 yochanan
I WILL SUPPORT THE TROOPS who ever is commander in chief.
that is what makes us different.
That wasn’t my point. How are they going to deploy near the Palestinian tribal areas? Are they going to cross the Border? This is a different fight than Iraq.
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FrogMarch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:40:12pm |
re: #170 snowcrash
Dem. callers on CSpan already calling Steeles chairmanship a “ploy” by white republican members.
Democrats show nothing but contempt for any black who isn’t on the left-wing plantation.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:40:34pm |
re: #173 yochanan
I WILL SUPPORT THE TROOPS who ever is commander in chief.
that is what makes us different.
Random thought - I agree with the sentiment, but the Dems mad “I support the troops” such a cliche, that we need to use a different word. I will HONOR the troops, or I will RESPECT the troops.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:40:39pm |
re: #192 ggt
hmmmm, good question, but then again, aren’t all the senators de facto commedians? Or just the ones from Illinois?
Nothing funny about Dickie Durban or B. Hussein. Nothing at all.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:40:42pm |
re: #188 FurryOldGuyJeans
And O made a living being a politician. You want to say he is a success?
I don’t think I ever said anything about actual “success”.
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godfrey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:40:56pm |
re: #197 Globular Cluster
I like Palin, but I have to agree. There’s a higher post for her somewhere.
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3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:40:57pm |
re: #175 godfrey
The “book value of their goodwill”? Wow. Who slipped that one through?
“Goodwill” is an accounting term to register the surplus value of a firm above and beyond that attributed to tangible assets.
I was thinking of the term “intellectual property”. The MSM should never be associated with the term “intellectual property”.
They have none.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:41:35pm |
re: #180 lobo91
NATIO troops won’t actually fight… If they mistakenly kill someone, they will dragged into International Criminal Court… Just like our troops will be once Obama gets us into that…
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:42:03pm |
re: #194 vagabond trader
Congrats to Mr. Steele. Who gives a flip what the dims think or say about him. The Rs need a bold leader now to defeat them, not be their friend.
It mattered to too many Rs, but they are RINOs and mavericks, and look at where and what all that concern got them. A hard-core socialist and near permanent minority status in Congress.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:42:07pm |
re: #199 yochanan
the term R.I.N.O. if used in here will get a down ding from me. frankly if you want to win you need all REPUBLICANS and even some independents and if we are lucky even a few ‘reagan democrats’
this term creates dis-unity.
It doesn’t do our side any good to vote in people who join the opposition to push their agenda. Doesn’t matter what party label they have to me, it’s their ideas and backbone that count.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:42:11pm |
re: #198 godfrey
Sounds like a proposal I’ve seen to make companies disclose their “carbon footprint,” which would then factor in their valuation. People think you could actually trade on that factor.
/shakin’ me head
“Goodwill” is not some newfangled idea; it’s been an accounting line item for many, many years. And there are multi-billion dollar companies whose principle asset is “goodwill”. For instance, prominent hotel chains. The most valuable thing “Four Seasons” has is their name.
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FemNaziBitch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:42:27pm |
I have to get on with my day.
Have a great one Lizards!
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:42:31pm |
re: #181 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
That won’t be as big a factor after the trainwreck of the next four years.
I think it will be factor. Here’s a personal example. I voted for McCain in spite of Palin. Had he picked Romney, he may have won the election. My wife, who never votes Republican told me she might have voted for McCain if Palin weren’t in the “on deck” circle. Mac’s age scared the hell out of my wife and while she had doubts about Obama, she said she could never cast a vote that put Palin so close to the presidency when the guy at the top of the ticket might not last 4 years as CIC.
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Formercorpsman Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:42:58pm |
Open letter to Mr. Steele.
I will keep it short. Congratulations. As you know from past experience, the attack machine will come. You are an honorable man, and in my opinion, an excellent candidate for the position.
One issue that I find appalling, is how the party in power has managed to co-opt one of our greatest Presidents, Abraham Lincoln.
No doubts, I think you will do a good job where others tasked with this responsibility have failed.
Please bring us back to the party of Lincoln.
Good luck.
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Wendya Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:43:00pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
To their credit, several right wing blogs and forums shitcanned the story as soon as it was posted. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people picking it up and running full speed ahead into the abyss.
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MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:43:38pm |
Another Daily Kos Komment:
“Me too! Me too! Me too!” (1+ / 0-)
“Look! Our party’s got a shiny new clean, articulate Black guy, too! Aren’t we hip?!”
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:43:49pm |
re: #201 Nevergiveup
How are they going to deploy near the Palestinian tribal areas?
In Afghanistan? That, indeed, will be difficult.
(sorry, couldn’t resist… yes yes yes I know you meant “Pakistani”)
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jcbunga Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:43:53pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true.
Can I just resign from the right-wing blogosphere? I never joined anyway.How stupid and embarrassing.
I pledge Obama to the Obama
Of the United Obama’s of Obamaca
And to the Obama, for which it Obamas,
One Obama, Under Obama,
Un-Obama-able
With Obama and Obama for Obama
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:44:06pm |
re: #199 yochanan
the term R.I.N.O. if used in here will get a down ding from me. frankly if you want to win you need all REPUBLICANS and even some independents and if we are lucky even a few ‘reagan democrats’
this term creates dis-unity.
Then prepare to downding because I won’t stop saying what I do to simply get along and bow to you making demands. We have had too much of that already, and look at what it got us. A hard-core socialist and near permanent minority status in Congress.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:44:09pm |
re: #214 _RememberTonyC
Sorry I don’t buy that reasoning when the alternative on the Dem side was a person on the TOP of the ticket with less experience than anyone else EVER.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:44:16pm |
re: #168 _RememberTonyC
I know Sarah Palin has a lot of fans on the blog, and I do consider her a quality individual. But if the Republicans think she has a chance at the top of the ticket, I think they’re wrong. However, if over the next 2-3 years she shows me more than I have seen so far, I would at least consider her. But if the folksy, down to earth lady we saw in 2008 is the same one we see in the future, she has no shot and the Republicans need to understand that. Republicans need someone new that has NOT lost a national election. Even if you like Palin, the loss in 2008 taints her,
You’re probably right, even if the loss wasn’t her fault, but due to McCain throwing in the towel. She was still campaigning.
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snowcrash Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:44:27pm |
re: #203 AuntAcid
I dinged you down but maybe you didn’t mean what I thought. A racial slur ?
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:44:48pm |
re: #176 Nevergiveup
FRIDAY, JANUARY 30, 2009
Journalists Under Fire… Gaza Cameraman Seriously Burned Filming Flag Torching Protest
Bummer.
They were torching Old Glory but the cameraman got cooked.[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com…]
Marshmallows?
How long before they blame Israel?
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:44:55pm |
I like the comments about this over at Ace:
192 Steele scares sh*t out of the Washington Post. Good enough for me.
Posted by: Big Mike at January 30, 2009 04:33 PM
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Wendya Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:00pm |
re: #48 offendi
He is an intelligent and good guy, but dems will actively portray him as being the Republican ” House Negro”.
Steele has to have ” audacity” and aggressiveness to keep on.
They’re already doing it at many left wing sites. There are several threads with very racist comments at the DUmp already.
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:00pm |
re: #209 tfc3rid
NATIO troops won’t actually fight… If they mistakenly kill someone, they will dragged into International Criminal Court… Just like our troops will be once Obama gets us into that…
That’s not entirely true. The Canadians and, believe it or not, some of the French troops have actually been in some fairly serious combat in Afghanistan.
The Germans, on the other hand, probably aren’t even allowed to shoot back if they’re attacked.
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FrogMarch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:01pm |
Democrats disrespect all blacks who are not leftwing eternal victims.
They don’t care that Michael Steele is an intelligent man - no no . The left are so blinded by identity politics and grievance theater and their blind faith adherence to progressive socialist loyalty- it doens’t occur to them to show respect. The democrats are unable to show any class or rise above their bad-faith political religion.
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maddogg Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:01pm |
My only problem with Steele is he may be too nice. I want the head of the RNC to come off as a nice guy, eloquent and well spoken, but with the heart of a pissed off junkyard dog.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:09pm |
re: #218 Occasional Reader
In Afghanistan? That, indeed, will be difficult.
(sorry, couldn’t resist… yes yes yes I know you meant “Pakistani”)
Yeah I could try and blame that on spell check, but It was probably my fault
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godfrey Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:11pm |
re: #212 Occasional Reader
But the value of a company mark is surely quantifiable to a greater degree than other true intangibles. You could calculate the extent of its usage during a time interval, for instance. Or use survey data.
I’m sure it’s useful, but that “goodwill” category is exploitable. I know people working on exploiting it, in fact.
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:15pm |
re: #216 Wendya
To their credit, several right wing blogs and forums shitcanned the story as soon as it was posted. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people picking it up and running full speed ahead into the abyss.
Mark those sites, and keep next year’s weblog awards in mind.
Pisses me off that LGF came in 4th
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:15pm |
re: #214 _RememberTonyC
I think it will be factor. Here’s a personal example. I voted for McCain in spite of Palin. Had he picked Romney, he may have won the election. My wife, who never votes Republican told me she might have voted for McCain if Palin weren’t in the “on deck” circle. Mac’s age scared the hell out of my wife and while she had doubts about Obama, she said she could never cast a vote that put Palin so close to the presidency when the guy at the top of the ticket might not last 4 years as CIC.
Phooey. Palin was/is more qualified than Obama. I voted for the ticket in spite of McCain. If he had picked Romney, McCain would have lost by a bigger margin as far less of the base would have bothered showing up.
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Ben Hur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:26pm |
re: #88 turn
Ben, this comment from dKos:
“They should have just hired Token from South Park (2+ / 0-)
At least be honest about the hire.”
Ahhhhh….the irony.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:43pm |
re: #221 Nevergiveup
Sorry I don’t buy that reasoning when the alternative on the Dem side was a person on the TOP of the ticket with less experience than anyone else EVER.
That’s what I tried to tell her! But that really is how she felt.
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nyc redneck Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:45:43pm |
re: #170 snowcrash
Dem. callers on CSpan already calling Steeles chairmanship a “ploy” by white republican members.
of course that is what they are saying.
it bothers them that he is an intelligent man of substance.
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MJ Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:46:09pm |
re: #217 MJ
Another Daily Kos Komment:
“Me too! Me too! Me too!” (1+ / 0-)
“Look! Our party’s got a shiny new clean, articulate Black guy, too! Aren’t we hip?!”[Link: www.dailykos.com…]
Gee, Congratulations to some poster at Daily who noticed the following:
I’m sorry this is revolting. (0+ / 0-)
I’m British, and where I come from most of the comments in this thread would be defined as racist.
Why are you people criticizing him for his colour?
Criticize the man’s politics and leave his colour alone.
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lawrior Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:46:10pm |
MSM claims that Steele is not black enough if 5-4-3-2-
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:46:31pm |
re: #219 jcbunga
I pledge Obama to the Obama
Of the United Obama’s of Obamaca
And to the Obama, for which it Obamas,
One Obama, Under Obama,
Un-Obama-able
With Obama and Obama for Obama
You wouldn’t happen to be from Marklar, would you?
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:46:53pm |
re: #182 _RememberTonyC
It is, but to start that process, first the Republicans must hammer away at Obama and the Dems’ record. And while many whites will feel they have to pull their punches to avoid the racism charge, Steele does not.
True. We’ll see how this progresses, but if I was in Steele’s new position, he first needs to focus on what the party is for and why that’s good for all Americans - regardless of their race, religion or current economic status.
With how little the Republicans are supported in the minority communities, Steele’s race may also be a benefit their, too.
| 245 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:46:55pm |
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fredo malmstein Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:47:03pm |
re: #203 AuntAcid
You are a fucking asshole. Try to deny the “spades” remark.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:47:06pm |
re: #167 avanti
And Obama is trying to charm a sitting Republican Senator to join his cabinet at Commerce.
I don’t know if that’s true, or which one it might be, but I guarantee would be one from a state with a Democrat governor who would appoint a Democrat, thereby tipping the Senate to a filibuster-proof majority. Also, it would have to be the vainest, most selfish RINO available. McCain?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:47:07pm |
re: #237 _RememberTonyC
That’s what I tried to tell her! But that really is how she felt.
Anyway with McCain at the head of the ticket, I don’t think it really mattered who was in the VP spot.
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jcbunga Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:47:13pm |
In 2010 we will either look back and say that the tide turned this week, or it kept on a-slidin’.
Opposition to the stimulus, et al.
| 251 |
snowcrash Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:48:05pm |
re: #246 fredo malmstein
Too cute word play for me even if it is a card suit.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:48:36pm |
re: #232 godfrey
But the value of a company mark is surely quantifiable to a greater degree than other true intangibles. You could calculate the extent of its usage during a time interval, for instance. Or use survey data.
I’m sure it’s useful, but that “goodwill” category is exploitable. I know people working on exploiting it, in fact.
Actually, my example was a bad one… see 3wood’s post for a better definition.
| 253 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:48:45pm |
Oh noes! Michael Steele. I hear he’s one of them….he’s….(sob..) Catholic!
Good guy. Smart. Quick witted. And ought to make a great leader for the Republicans. He is the right person for the job.
Good move, Republicans. We’ll be back in 2010.
| 254 |
Soona' Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:48:49pm |
re: #197 Globular Cluster
Sarah Palin is appeals to socialcons and nobody else. She is not ready, and will never be ready, for the national stage. She is certainly smarter than Nancy Pelosi or Katie Couric, but that isn’t saying much. She should start her own Oprah-style show and be done with it.
She was, and always will be, a deer in the headlights. Your average lizard would have been more articulate in interviews. Sticking her back on a ticket will result in endless mockery, which is cutting because accurate. Don’t get me wrong, she is a good woman and a good governor of Alaska, but we can do much, much better.
Just got on and read this post. Hey, GC, you’re an asshole….or is that an opinion I’m hearing. Can’t tell the difference.
| 255 |
JustABill Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:49:08pm |
re: #218 Occasional Reader
In Afghanistan? That, indeed, will be difficult.
(sorry, couldn’t resist… yes yes yes I know you meant “Pakistani”)
I think they are going to Okinawa. That way they’ll be close to Iraq too, should they be needed there…
| 256 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:49:49pm |
re: #240 MJ
Gee, Congratulations to some poster at Daily who noticed the following:
I’m sorry this is revolting. (0+ / 0-)
I’m British, and where I come from most of the comments in this thread would be defined as racist.Why are you people criticizing him for his colour?
Criticize the man’s politics and leave his colour alone.
[Link: www.dailykos.com…]
How long til that commenter gets banned?
| 257 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:49:50pm |
re: #247 doppelganglander
I don’t know if that’s true, or which one it might be, but I guarantee would be one from a state with a Democrat governor who would appoint a Democrat, thereby tipping the Senate to a filibuster-proof majority. Also, it would have to be the vainest, most selfish RINO available. McCain?
No, Gregg from New Hampshire. As I said on the last thread, he should only accept if it is agreed to appoint a Republican in his place.
| 258 |
Wendya Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:49:53pm |
| 259 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:50:06pm |
re: #234 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Phooey. Palin was/is more qualified than Obama. I voted for the ticket in spite of McCain. If he had picked Romney, McCain would have lost by a bigger margin as far less of the base would have bothered showing up.
Of course I can understand why YOU feel that way. But for someone who is not a decicated conservative such as my wife, she evaluated the candidates differently and that is why she said she voted that way. I’m not trying to convince you to change your mind, I am simply stating an example of someone who was scared off by Palin and trying to explain her opinion. We need to learn from things like this as we move forward.
| 260 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:50:14pm |
re: #228 lobo91
The Germans, on the other hand, probably aren’t even allowed to shoot back if they’re attacked.
I was going to make a very nasty remark about what the Germans would do if NATO were given a “peacekeeping” mission in Israel and the terrortories.
But I’m sure you can all come up with your own.
Anyway, should the Germans be in that position, I wonder what shower and oven facilities they will bring.
| 261 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:50:20pm |
re: #234 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Phooey. Palin was/is more qualified than Obama. I voted for the ticket in spite of McCain. If he had picked Romney, McCain would have lost by a bigger margin as far less of the base would have bothered showing up.
I did the same thing, for simple reasons.
Of the 4 candidates, which ones had been exposed and probably fallen into the corruption trap (think Blago)?
Of the 4 candidates, which ones had direct experience running states or affairs which required and nurtured self-sufficiency?
Of the 4 candidates, which ones could tell the difference on the above items?
| 262 |
3 wood Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:50:22pm |
Note to the Democratic National party, you can stop instructing your shills in the MSM to keep bashing the economy, your guy won.
All day long you read stories of the GDP dropping 3.8% and Obama talking about how the world is coming to an end, right?
But then, if you look long enough, you find this:
Oil rises after better-than-expected U.S. GDP data
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Oil futures rose Friday after data showed that the U.S. economy, the world’s largest oil consumer, shrank less than the market had expected in the fourth quarter. The U.S. economy contracted at a 3.8% annualized rate, the worst in 28 years, the Commerce Department reported. But the drop was still above economists’ expectations of a 5.5% decline. Crude oil for March delivery ended up 24 cents, or 0.6%, at $41.68 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Earlier it rose more than 4% to $43.44.
Obviously this guy did not get the DNP talking points memo.
| 263 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:50:47pm |
he chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee believes the time is ripe for the US to pursue with Russia a joint missile defense effort aimed at deterring Iran.
Translation: We just blinked and Russia won
| 264 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:51:27pm |
re: #197 Globular Cluster
At least admit you speak for yourself and not for even a hint of the majority of conservative voters. No one I talked to who was not an out and out O booster found her to be nothing but a HUGE BOOST to McCain. And I live near the Socialist Republik of Seattle.
I don’t take what the media says as a source of who and what a R is all about. I talk and listen to actual people and voters.
| 265 |
offendi Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:51:49pm |
re: #227 Wendya
They’re already doing it at many left wing sites. There are several threads with very racist comments at the DUmp already.
It is up to him to be fresh and contemporary. The majority of the country has conservative values.
| 266 |
Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:51:58pm |
re: #253 Golem Akbar
Michael Steele. I hear he’s one of them….he’s….(sob..) Catholic!
Hey, not all Catholics are s.o.b’s!
/
| 267 |
stevieray Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:52:13pm |
Good job picking Michael Steele as chairman.
Now they need to go around the MSM and do some sort of minority outreach… I suggest hiring Macho Sauce as the coordinator!
| 268 |
doppelganglander Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:52:23pm |
re: #240 MJ
Gee, Congratulations to some poster at Daily who noticed the following:
I’m sorry this is revolting. (0+ / 0-)
I’m British, and where I come from most of the comments in this thread would be defined as racist.Why are you people criticizing him for his colour?
Criticize the man’s politics and leave his colour alone.
[Link: www.dailykos.com…]
That will be deleted within minutes, I’m sure.
| 269 |
Bobblehead Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:52:43pm |
re: #176 Nevergiveup
FRIDAY, JANUARY 30, 2009
Journalists Under Fire… Gaza Cameraman Seriously Burned Filming Flag Torching Protest
Bummer.
They were torching Old Glory but the cameraman got cooked.[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com…]
Marshmallows?
I saw that. Idiots. Old Glory strikes back!
| 270 |
arf Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:53:04pm |
Good news from the Republican Party……for a change.
| 271 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:53:35pm |
re: #230 maddogg
My only problem with Steele is he may be too nice. I want the head of the RNC to come off as a nice guy, eloquent and well spoken, but with the heart of a pissed off junkyard dog.
I think he IS the “‘Steele’ hand in the velvet glove”. Pun intended. ;)
| 272 |
Oh no...Sand People! Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:53:42pm |
re: #263 Nevergiveup
he chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee believes the time is ripe for the US to pursue with Russia a joint missile defense effort aimed at deterring Iran.
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
Translation: We just blinked and Russia won
Good grief.
| 273 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:53:45pm |
re: #270 arf
Good news from the Republican Party……for a change.
HOPE! CHANGE!
/wow! that would make a good motto!
| 274 |
AuntAcid Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:53:52pm |
re: #223 snowcrash
I dinged you down but maybe you didn’t mean what I thought. A racial slur ?
Slur No Slur!…just trying to be snarky like a liberal. I had my doubts…took a chance. It was the first thing to pop into my head.
| 275 |
Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:53:54pm |
re: #259 _RememberTonyC
Of course I can understand why YOU feel that way. But for someone who is not a decicated conservative such as my wife, she evaluated the candidates differently and that is why she said she voted that way. I’m not trying to convince you to change your mind, I am simply stating an example of someone who was scared off by Palin and trying to explain her opinion. We need to learn from things like this as we move forward.
Ok, your wife is irrational. She is afraid of “Palin’s lack of experience” but put Barry in the White House.
Good call.
| 276 |
Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:54:42pm |
re: #260 Kosh’s Shadow
I was going to make a very nasty remark about what the Germans would do if NATO were given a “peacekeeping” mission in Israel and the terrortories.
Oh, I think if (and it’s a highly hypothetical “if”) any German troops deployed in/near Israel decided to try to imitate their great-grandads in any way, shape or form with respect to the Israelis, they would find out right quick that times have changed.
| 277 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:54:55pm |
re: #274 AuntAcid
Slur No Slur!…just trying to be snarky like a liberal. I had my doubts…took a chance. It was the first thing to pop into my head.
SOMEBODY dinged you down. Your post now reads [deleted], with no name.
| 278 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:55:10pm |
re: #274 AuntAcid
Slur No Slur!…just trying to be snarky like a liberal. I had my doubts…took a chance. It was the first thing to pop into my head.
Worked for me. :)
We can’t wimp out and go all PC simply to placate those who want to muzzle us.
| 279 |
Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:55:27pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true.
Can I just resign from the right-wing blogosphere? I never joined anyway.
How stupid and embarrassing.
Of course, Crazy Pam has her own version of this. Supposedly we’re now schooling our kids like Hamas schools theirs.
Sad, just sad. And as you said, deeply embarrassing.
| 280 |
lifeofthemind Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:55:39pm |
Fight fight fight, never give up. Now Fight.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:55:48pm |
22:09 U.S. Congress delegation arrives in Damascus for talks with the Syrian officials (DPA
Anyone know who is in this little group?
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Jack Burton Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:56:12pm |
re: #219 jcbunga
I pledge Obama to the Obama
Of the United Obama’s of Obamaca
And to the Obama, for which it Obamas,
One Obama, Under Obama,
Un-Obama-able
With Obama and Obama for Obama
Obama the new Marklar?
| 283 |
AuntAcid Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:56:39pm |
re: #230 maddogg
My only problem with Steele is he may be too nice. I want the head of the RNC to come off as a nice guy, eloquent and well spoken, but with the heart of a pissed off junkyard dog.
He did say he wanted to include “our enemies”.
| 286 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:57:20pm |
re: #250 FrogMarch
OT: WHY OBAMA IS TARGETING LIMBAUGH
Because he wants total subservience, and Rush won’t play.
| 287 |
Watcher Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:57:32pm |
Cool. I loved how he used to rip Colmes a new one every time he was on Hannity & Colmes.
| 288 |
Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:57:36pm |
re: #281 Nevergiveup
22:09 U.S. Congress delegation arrives in Damascus for talks with the Syrian officials (DPA
Anyone know who is in this little group?
Senator Moron, Congressman Asshat, and Congresswoman Terrorist Sympathizer.
| 289 |
_RememberTonyC Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:57:47pm |
re: #275 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Ok, your wife is irrational. She is afraid of “Palin’s lack of experience” but put Barry in the White House.
Good call.
Dude … stick the name calling somewhere else.
| 290 |
Nevergiveup Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:57:49pm |
White house: Obama calls China’s Hu
Big deal, my wife ordered in tonight also!
| 291 |
Golem Akbar Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:57:59pm |
re: #266 Occasional Reader
Hey, not all Catholics are s.o.b’s!
/
/But OR, you left out the d.o.b.s, and they’re going to be hurt.
I’ve listened to Steele on the radio (sometimes fills in for Bill Bennett) and he’s very impressive.
| 292 |
jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:58:07pm |
re: #279 Cato the Elder
Of course, Crazy Pam has her own version of this. Supposedly we’re now schooling our kids like Hamas schools theirs.
Sad, just sad. And as you said, deeply embarrassing.
Shouldn’t we be promoting this site (and Charles) as Classic Liberal?
I agree with Charles, being lumped in with “conservative” can indeed be an embarrassment.
| 293 |
maddogg Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:58:10pm |
re: #271 FurryOldGuyJeans
I think he IS the “‘Steele’ hand in the velvet glove”. Pun intended. ;)
I sure as Hell hope so. I want puddles to form around liberl flip flops whenever he appears.
| 294 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:58:27pm |
re: #25 Charles
I did my stint with Derangement Syndrome during Clinton’s first term. I do not recall what was the catalyst, but at some point I took a step back to look at myself and did not like what I was seeing. I felt like such a fool. How could I have lent credence to the insanity that was being spewed by blinkered conspiracy mongers? Reason and logic are so undervalued by so many, and not just in America.
Anyway, I got better. Thank goodness I did not have an internet connection at the time, who knows how far off the deep end I could have gone?
| 295 |
akak Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:58:41pm |
OTTAWA, January 25 (Itar-Tass) - Canada will grant 10 million dollars to finance UN efforts on detecting and ensuring security of storing dangerous radioactive materials in Russia and Ukraine, said Canadian Foreign Secretary Lawrence Cannon in a statement circulated here.
The secretary stressed that these programmes, aimed at preventing terrorists from laying hands on dangerous nuclear and radiological materials, are very important for the protection of Canada and international security. He added that Canada’s contribution is a confirmation of Kanada’s reliable partnership with the new US administration in ensuring security of North America through specific counter-terrorist measures and measures in the sphere of nuclear non-proliferation.
| 296 |
Globular Cluster Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:59:10pm |
re: #254 Soona’
Just got on and read this post. Hey, GC, you’re an asshole….or is that an opinion I’m hearing. Can’t tell the difference.
I don’t dislike Palin and you are entitled to your opinion. Just don’t call me late for dinner, and in any event, you just called a lot of Republicans assholes.
I wish things were different, but there it is. She lacks intellectual depth, exhibits no curiosity about national/international issues, and freezes whenever she encounters a topic for which she hasn’t been coached. Add to this the fact that she is tainted from the ‘08 defeat, and she practically guarantees defeat in any future election.
| 297 |
ornery elephant Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:59:34pm |
From the story ” Michael Steele Elected RNC Chairman” at The Daily Kos:
Via live coverage on C-SPAN, it’s our pleasure to report to you that after much debate, the Republican National Committee has succumbed to its better angels and elected Michael Steele of Maryland to be their next chairman.
They managed to avoid having a guy who became a Republican because the Democrats desegregated his school in the 1950s, be the public face and leader of the party for the next four years.
WTF is that?
| 298 |
opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 1:59:48pm |
re: #234 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Phooey. Palin was/is more qualified than Obama. I voted for the ticket in spite of McCain. If he had picked Romney, McCain would have lost by a bigger margin as far less of the base would have bothered showing up.
LT from your mouth to God’s ears. I only liked two things about the McCain Campaign, he isn’t Obama & Sarah Palin. In four years the woman will be seasoned. Hell she is more qualified now that the guy who got elected.
I do not undrestand the mind set of avoiding voting for McCain because Palin would be a heart beat away. She was in the bullpen. Their starter is not qualified
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AuntAcid Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:00:03pm |
re: #277 jwb7605
SOMEBODY dinged you down. Your post now reads [deleted], with no name.
Gosh darnit!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:00:21pm |
re: #293 maddogg
I sure as Hell hope so. I want puddles to form around liberl flip flops whenever he appears.
Can he be any worse than what we have gotten in the past? Steele being a failure would be a step up.
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Golem Akbar Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:00:41pm |
On the radio right now, Michael Medved is expected to interview Jimmy Carter. He said he expects to challenge him. Ought to be interesting.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:00:52pm |
re: #294 Slumbering Behemoth
but at some point I took a step back to look at myself and did not like what I was seeing
That means they got to you with the mind-control rays beamed from the black helicopters.
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lifeofthemind Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:01:05pm |
re: #283 AuntAcid
He did say he wanted to include “our enemies”.
Word to ban “adversaries” I do not have adversaries. I have friends, allies, lovers, co-workers, colleagues, strangers, customers and
Enemies
Adversaries are creatures you engage in a “Peace Process.” Enemies you fight until they either
1) kill you, bad
2) surrender, good
3) die, good
No adversaries, enemies if they must be.
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lamaestra Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:01:10pm |
Come on now Republicans, take the fight to the Dems. Michael Steele is savvy, tough and highly visible! American people don’t bother to educate themselves about the issues, so we need to get our message out through mediums they use most. Steele is willing and able to do that . Finally!
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Soona' Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:01:37pm |
re: #267 stevieray
Good job picking Michael Steele as chairman.
Now they need to go around the MSM and do some sort of minority outreach… I suggest hiring Macho Sauce as the coordinator!
Let’s not fall into the trap like McCain’s campaign did and start singling out groups of people. Let Mr. Steele revitalize the conservative spirit in Americans, period.
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DeafDog Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:01:58pm |
re: #297 ornery elephant
From the story ” Michael Steele Elected RNC Chairman” at The Daily Kos:
WTF is that?
Maybe it’s Senator Byrd posting on the Daily Kos?
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ornery elephant Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:02:03pm |
re: #301 Golem Akbar
On the radio right now, Michael Medved is expected to interview Jimmy Carter. He said he expects to challenge him. Ought to be interesting.
I wonder if Jimmy Carter will be flanked by his Hamas bodyguards.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:02:21pm |
re: #302 Occasional Reader
As awful as that film is, I do love it.
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maddogg Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:02:32pm |
re: #300 FurryOldGuyJeans
Can he be any worse than what we have gotten in the past? Steele being a failure would be a step up.
Good point.
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Ben Hur Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:02:39pm |
The One stole my thunder!
Now this!
/BLIND African American governor of NY who’s accomplishments are being totally ignored by the MSM
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Soona' Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:03:04pm |
re: #288 Dark_Falcon
Senator Moron, Congressman Asshat, and Congresswoman Terrorist Sympathizer.
Well, that narrows it down. :)
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turn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:03:05pm |
re: #297 ornery elephant
I read that and scratched my head too. I think is some convoluted way of patting themselves on their backs for Steel’s success.
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:03:43pm |
re: #294 Slumbering Behemoth
I did my stint with Derangement Syndrome during Clinton’s first term. I do not recall what was the catalyst, but at some point I took a step back to look at myself and did not like what I was seeing. I felt like such a fool. How could I have lent credence to the insanity that was being spewed by blinkered conspiracy mongers? Reason and logic are so undervalued by so many, and not just in America.
Anyway, I got better. Thank goodness I did not have an internet connection at the time, who knows how far off the deep end I could have gone?
Vince Foster.
That produced so many conflicting stories (and the ‘net was still young) that I still don’t know what to think.
Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc. … I still have unanswered questions. Most of those begin with “what the hell were you thinking to start with”, though.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:03:58pm |
re: #310 Slumbering Behemoth
As awful as that film is, I do love it.
“Awful”?! Bite your tongue! Kids will be doing their Ph.D. theses about that flick 50 years from now!
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opnion Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:04:27pm |
re: #199 yochanan
the term R.I.N.O. if used in here will get a down ding from me. frankly if you want to win you need all REPUBLICANS and even some independents and if we are lucky even a few ‘reagan democrats’
this term creates dis-unity.
Do ya dare me? Do ya double dog dare me? Ok then, The fact that McCain is a RINO helped cost him & us the election.
Down ding me if you must, but remember, I am A White Sox fan who is notr Obama. That counts for sompin?
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:04:50pm |
re: #289 _RememberTonyC
Dude … stick the name calling somewhere else.
If the shoe fits… I know how grateful I and my children will be because your wife was scared of Sarah Palin, but found comfort in the idea of electing Barry.
Thanks a bunch.
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KingKenrod Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:05:11pm |
re: #297 ornery elephant
From the story ” Michael Steele Elected RNC Chairman” at The Daily Kos:
WTF is that?
I don’t know who they’re talking about, but the Dems did not desegregate the schools in the 1950’s!
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Spiny Norman Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:05:25pm |
re: #48 offendi
He is an intelligent and good guy, but dems will actively portray him as being the Republican ” House Negro”.
Steele has to have ” audacity” and aggressiveness to keep on.
Proving to them that the GOP is RACIST!, of course.
If they hadn’t elected Steele Chairman, that would have proved the GOP is RACIST!, too.
Dem-doo-da!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:06:03pm |
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yochanan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:06:15pm |
re: #296 Globular Cluster
I for one like Sarah but i will not make up my mind who i want for POTUS unil 2012
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semper gumbi Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:07:38pm |
re: #168 _RememberTonyC
I know Sarah Palin has a lot of fans on the blog, and I do consider her a quality individual. But if the Republicans think she has a chance at the top of the ticket, I think they’re wrong. However, if over the next 2-3 years she shows me more than I have seen so far, I would at least consider her. But if the folksy, down to earth lady we saw in 2008 is the same one we see in the future, she has no shot and the Republicans need to understand that. Republicans need someone new that has NOT lost a national election. Even if you like Palin, the loss in 2008 taints her,
Remember Richard Nixon.
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Spiny Norman Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:08:15pm |
re: #297 ornery elephant
From the story ” Michael Steele Elected RNC Chairman” at The Daily Kos:
Via live coverage on C-SPAN, it’s our pleasure to report to you that after much debate, the Republican National Committee has succumbed to its better angels and elected Michael Steele of Maryland to be their next chairman.They managed to avoid having a guy who became a Republican because the Democrats desegregated his school in the 1950s, be the public face and leader of the party for the next four years.
WTF is that?
Kosland Alternate Uninverse. You know, the one where Mr. Spock wears a goatee.
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wolfie Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:09:06pm |
Late to thread, but……..I think Steele is a good choice. He’s tough without being abrasive. I think he’ll do very well, particularly as a spokesman for the party.
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HippieforLife Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:09:28pm |
And this comment from a huffposter says it all:
“Michael Steele =Uncle Tom,Token,GOP Slave,House N E G R O.IT’S Going To Take More Than Him To Bring Blacks To The GOP Party.Speaking as a black person”
These people should be ashamed of themselves. Do you think that the O will denounce this type of comments? Hmm, no.
Just imagine the outrage if a comment like this appeared on a conservative blog!
Congratulations to Mr. Steele!
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Globular Cluster Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:10:30pm |
re: #264 FurryOldGuyJeans
At least admit you speak for yourself and not for even a hint of the majority of conservative voters. No one I talked to who was not an out and out O booster found her to be nothing but a HUGE BOOST to McCain. And I live near the Socialist Republik of Seattle.
I don’t take what the media says as a source of who and what a R is all about. I talk and listen to actual people and voters.
Sounds like you only listen to Laura Ingraham and Rush. I’ve talked to many Republicans who were initially excited by her and became disappointed. I have Evangelical friends who thought she was a poor pick after hearing her in interviews. My local conservative talk-radio host said he never wants to hear another peep out of her, and the number of callers who agreed was astonishing.
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wolfie Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:11:11pm |
re: #285 nyc redneck
there is a strange vibe in the air today.
Sorry. The kid’s cello practice should be over in about ten minutes.
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:11:53pm |
Congratulations Chairman Steele! Please put conservative ideology back on the GOP map. Am so sick of mealy-mouthed RINOs I could puke. Thank you!
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:12:26pm |
re: #323 semper gumbi
Remember Richard Nixon.
True … but I don’t know if today’s world has the same capacity to grant second chances as the world of 40 years ago. But you may well be correct.
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filetandrelease Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:14:03pm |
re: #38 LGoPs
Repost from last thread:
I’m just waiting to see the twisted pretzel convolutions the democrats put themselves through to denounce Steele. No doubt to them, he will not be authentic…..whatever the fuck that means……..
*spit*
From KOS
“Look we have a black guy, too.”Blackwell is not human and the other 4 Black republicans are probably fetus in utero.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:15:26pm |
From the last Palin thread:
COURIC: Why isn’t it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? … Instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?
PALIN: Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy–-Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions.
Great. Tax reductions include reducing taxes. Moving right along…
She can spend the next four years memorizing rote responses to every possible inquiry, but someone whose off-the-cuff, unscripted answer to such a simple question is as incoherent, fumbling, nonsensical and beside the point as that one has no business within a thousand-mile radius of the White House. Palin may have charisma, but she’s a mental midget and in no way up to the job of President. The Democrats must love the news that she’s running - in fact, I’ll bet the DNC funnels a big chunk of money to her through front organizations. She would be Obama’s dream opponent.
People may wish to see in her a female Ronald Reagan, but that comparison is an insult to Reagan.
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_RememberTonyC Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:16:01pm |
re: #318 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
If the shoe fits… I know how grateful I and my children will be because your wife was scared of Sarah Palin, but found comfort in the idea of electing Barry.
Thanks a bunch.
Somehow I don’t put as much blame on my wife for Obama’s election as you do. But in order to correct mistakes that were made as the party moves forward, it helps to hear what the other side was thinking. I never thought of LGF as simply an “Amen Corner,” even though I like the right of center sensibilities that are present in Lizard Nation.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:19:04pm |
re: #333 Cato the Elder
You parsed that sentence wrong. Try again.
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semper gumbi Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:19:27pm |
re: #331 _RememberTonyC
True … but I don’t know if today’s world has the same capacity to grant second chances as the world of 40 years ago. But you may well be correct.
Excellent point.
A lot can happen between now and 2012. Governor Palin is a smart woman. if she really wants to pursue the national stage, she will educate herself so she doesn’t make the smae mistakes as she did in 2008. I think that she initally wasn’t ready ready when selected for VP. her early interviews and actions weren’t very good and she tainted herself. By the end of the campaign, she had come a long way - but too late.
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gmsc Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:19:37pm |
re: #290 Nevergiveup
White house: Obama calls China’s Hu
Big deal, my wife ordered in tonight also!
Hu is on the phone?
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debutaunt Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:19:43pm |
re: #160 3 wood
Just try to cancel a newspaper subscription.
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:21:45pm |
re: #327 HippieforLife
And this comment from a huffposter says it all:
“Michael Steele =Uncle Tom,Token,GOP Slave,House N E G R O.IT’S Going To Take More Than Him To Bring Blacks To The GOP Party.Speaking as a black person”
Well, given the history of the past 50 years or so, that poster is probably right about the choice of Steele not doing much to return black voters to the party.
Of course, what didn’t occur to that person is the fact that probably very few of the national committee members who voted for Steele even had that in mind.
That comment actually says more about Democrats than it does about Republicans. They’re the ones who base everything on quotas and calculations of what special interest group a policy will get them points with.
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:22:42pm |
re: #335 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
You parsed that sentence wrong. Try again.
If you think the way I think ( *ouch* ) the bolded part should have been simply accompany. To me, that stresses that three things need to happen, and the single tax reduction concept must be accompanied by the other two items (health care and spending reduction).
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stuiec Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:22:54pm |
re: #297 ornery elephant
From the story ” Michael Steele Elected RNC Chairman” at The Daily Kos:
WTF is that?
The DEMOCRATS in the 1950s? Orval Faubus standing in the schoolhouse door of Little Rock High School? George Wallace, of “Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever”? Bull Connor, so handy with the attack dogs and fire hoses? THOSE Democrats?
WTF indeed!
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Spiny Norman Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:23:06pm |
re: #332 filetandrelease
From KOS
“Look we have a black guy, too.”
Blackwell is not human and the other 4 Black republicans are probably fetus in utero.
As I mentioned before, if the GOP had not picked Steele, the Kos Kidz would be touting that as “proof” of Republican “racism”.
They really are juvenile simple-minded dolts, with nary a functioning brain cell among them.
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kansas Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:25:03pm |
re: #339 lobo91
Well, given the history of the past 50 years or so, that poster is probably right about the choice of Steele not doing much to return black voters to the party.
Of course, what didn’t occur to that person is the fact that probably very few of the national committee members who voted for Steele even had that in mind.
That comment actually says more about Democrats than it does about Republicans. They’re the ones who base everything on quotas and calculations of what special interest group a policy will get them points with.
Who woulda thunk the selection of an actual rational black person would make the Huffpo morons even more crazy? When I saw he had been selected I thought, “Thank God”, then I realized the Huffkosmoveon idiots will get even crazier.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:26:46pm |
re: #334 _RememberTonyC
Somehow I don’t put as much blame on my wife for Obama’s election as you do. But in order to correct mistakes that were made as the party moves forward, it helps to hear what the other side was thinking. I never thought of LGF as simply an “Amen Corner,” even though I like the right of center sensibilities that are present in Lizard Nation.
Learning from mistakes is critical. In this case, the argument is “too squishy” vs “not squishy enough”. My POV is the choice of McCain was a sod toward the “be squishier” crowd… and it was a mistake. The base was fired up. It did get fired up, briefly, when Palin was announced (and McCain led in the poles for the one time in the fall), but they didn’t handle her well and let the MSM trash her. Those efforts continue.
As for your wife’s blame, it is no more or less than any of the other 66 million that put Barry in the White House to be the most powerful man in the world. The responsibility is shared.
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vagabond trader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:28:07pm |
re: #339 lobo91
It’s always about race, grievance, victimhood, and “the children”with the d’s.Just look at this monstrosity of a pig fest being shoveled at us.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:28:15pm |
re: #340 jwb7605
If you think the way I think ( *ouch* ) the bolded part should have been simply accompany. To me, that stresses that three things need to happen, and the single tax reduction concept must be accompanied by the other two items (health care and spending reduction).
Exactly. She said she wanted to reduce taxes but that spending must be reduced along with those tax reductions.
/get out of my head, there is a fee in here…
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:29:27pm |
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:29:42pm |
re: #346 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Exactly. She said she wanted to reduce taxes but that spending must be reduced along with those tax reductions.
/get out of my head, there is a fee in here…
On the upside, apparently you work cheap! :)
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sngnsgt Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:30:46pm |
Michael Steele seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Does this mean moonbats will stop calling Republicans racists? I don’t think they’re mature enough to.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:33:57pm |
re: #350 sngnsgt
Michael Steele seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Does this mean moonbats will stop calling Republicans racists? I don’t think they’re mature enough to.
Are you kidding? To them, picking a Black guy proves the Republicans are racist!
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RondinellaMamma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:35:37pm |
Congratulations, Michael Steele!
This is the best news I’ve heard in a loooooong while.
The RNC gets a contribution from me tonight!
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RaiderDan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:38:58pm |
Bravo RNC for naming a good man to lead the GOP.
He should immediately send a giant box of Oreos to the DNC and the liberal media outlets who stood silent during his shameful treatment when he ran for Senate here in MD.
RNC gets a contribution from me now too.
Its a proud day for the Republican party.
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RightOnTheLeftCoast Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:41:24pm |
I’m quite pleased with Steele’s selection! The several times I’ve heard him either as the interviewer or interviewee he’s been very impressive.
Hopefully, the first step in a Republican resurgance.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:41:57pm |
re: #335 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
You parsed that sentence wrong. Try again.
Trying to parse gobbledygook is a loser’s game. That’s my point.
You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:42:20pm |
re: #350 sngnsgt
Michael Steele seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Does this mean moonbats will stop calling Republicans racists? I don’t think they’re mature enough to.
Liberals tend to judge people based on skin pigmentation, gender, sexual orientation and other ‘group’ identities, including political party. If a person belongs to one of their victim identity groups but not their political ideology, then their own brains cannot handle the disparity. That’s why they always come across as hypocrites.
Conservatives tend to judge people on their brains (or lack thereof), behaviors and words. Skin pigmentation, gender, sexual orientation mean nothing in the scheme of things.
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vagabond trader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:44:55pm |
Thankfully Mr. Steele will not be appearing on Ellen doing a girlee-man shing-a-ling.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:45:46pm |
re: #356 rightymouse
Conservatives tend to judge people on their brains (or lack thereof), behaviors and words.
So how do you explain Palin’s popularity around here?
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loup-garou Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:45:50pm |
check this out on reactions to Steele
ass hats at stormfront say Steele is just a RNC token
[deleted]
ass hats at daily Kos say Steele is just a RNC token
dailykos.com
i guess i should not be shocked that the comments are basically the same. after all stormfront kids and daily Kos kids agree on a lot. Israel is bad, America should not be fighting the war on terror, big government is the problem and the answer and now Steele is just a token or House negro.
Just like condi and Powell back when Powell was not cool in the early 2000’s
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least Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:49:18pm |
I’ll be waiting for the next RNC mailing.
Maybe now I won’t throw it out after reading the first paragraph.
Mr. Steele: Please remember that if there’s not a marked difference between the R’s and the D’s — why should we, the people, look to your party?
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lobo91 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:52:16pm |
re: #359 loup-garou
ass hats at stormfront say Steele is just a RNC token
Sorry, not clicking on that link, particularly from work.
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:54:03pm |
re: #358 Cato the Elder
So how do you explain Palin’s popularity around here?
Palin is a smart lady. She didn’t become governor of Alaska by being a fluff-head. I think what you may be referring to is what seemed to be a lack of mensa type knowledge/command of world affairs. In her spine are conservative principles and we need people like her. The other stuff is just a matter of time. I think she’ll surprise you in the next few years.
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Ringo the Gringo Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:55:02pm |
One of the best things about Steele is that he does not come from any one of the various ideological camps of the right. He’s not a Huckabee evangelical, he’s not a Buchanan paleocon, he’s not a Bush-era neocon.
What he is, is a good old-fashioned, pragmatic Reagan-style conservative.
Smart, nice and positive…Just what the Republicans need.
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vagabond trader Fri, Jan 30, 2009 2:58:32pm |
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:02:11pm |
re: #362 rightymouse
Palin is a smart lady. She didn’t become governor of Alaska by being a fluff-head. I think what you may be referring to is what seemed to be a lack of mensa type knowledge/command of world affairs. In her spine are conservative principles and we need people like her. The other stuff is just a matter of time. I think she’ll surprise you in the next few years.
I agree, but Cato seems to be in the “I’ve already made my mind up” camp.
Palin will probably never lose her “folksy” way of talking, which is what attracts me to her. Cato seems to think it shows she’s terminally stupid.
Therefore, when Cato posts, I get a mental image of a couple PhD’s I know who intentionally talk over people … or at least think they do.
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:03:20pm |
re: #364 vagabond trader
Don’t forget, clean and articulate.
/
Can you imagine a Republican saying stuff like that about anyone who happened to be black? Didn’t that come out of Biden’s mouth about Obama? OMG.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:03:48pm |
AP’s headline: Michael Steele becomes first black RNC chairman
Great, so who was the first black DNC chairman? Dems can’t possibly be racist, and 95% of blacks are Democrats, so surely they’ve had at least 2 or 3 black chairmen by now, right? Right?
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:06:12pm |
re: #362 rightymouse
Palin is a smart lady. She didn’t become governor of Alaska by being a fluff-head. I think what you may be referring to is what seemed to be a lack of mensa type knowledge/command of world affairs. In her spine are conservative principles and we need people like her. The other stuff is just a matter of time. I think she’ll surprise you in the next few years.
We’ll see. I’ve been wrong before. But my “spine” is a funny feeling that a Palin candidacy is what Obama would like best of anything.
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Globular Cluster Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:06:14pm |
re: #362 rightymouse
Palin is a smart lady. She didn’t become governor of Alaska by being a fluff-head. I think what you may be referring to is what seemed to be a lack of mensa type knowledge/command of world affairs. In her spine are conservative principles and we need people like her. The other stuff is just a matter of time. I think she’ll surprise you in the next few years.
I would settle for some basic acquaintance with current events and American/World history. During the campaign she showed she has never bothered to think/explore/understand important issues. She can’t even dance-step around awkward questions. I defended her during the campaign because she was, indeed, mistreated by the MSM. But seriously, she understands foreign policy because Alaska is close to Russia? Please. She is an effective governor of Alaska, and belongs in Alaska. She is a death sentence to the next presidential ticket.
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catttt Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:06:40pm |
Woo hoo! I thought he was gaining but was still in fingers crossed mode. :D Yay!
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chouch Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:06:59pm |
Nobody likes a sore loser, whether its McCain or Gore.
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least Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:08:27pm |
re: #368 doppelganglander
AP’s headline: Michael Steele becomes first black RNC chairman
Great, so who was the first black DNC chairman? Dems can’t possibly be racist, and 95% of blacks are Democrats, so surely they’ve had at least 2 or 3 black chairmen by now, right? Right?
Theyre just following the AP stylebook.
R = bad racist Christianists
D = good — always
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:10:36pm |
re: #366 jwb7605
I agree, but Cato seems to be in the “I’ve already made my mind up” camp.
Palin will probably never lose her “folksy” way of talking, which is what attracts me to her. Cato seems to think it shows she’s terminally stupid.Therefore, when Cato posts, I get a mental image of a couple PhD’s I know who intentionally talk over people … or at least think they do.
I love her ‘folksy’ way in the same way I love Fred Thompson’s ‘folksy’ way. They understand conservative principles and don’t mealy-mouth.
I don’t know poster Cato well enough to say why he doesn’t like her. A lot of guys didn’t and a lot of women didn’t either. They will have to search their souls to see if the issue of her being a woman is the main component of their distaste.
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karmapolice Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:10:43pm |
Woot!
I loved Michael Steele’s comments for his acceptance speech…
“we will run you over”
“watch out baby”
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Ringo the Gringo Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:11:14pm |
I like Palin.
….as the govenor of Alaska.
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:12:25pm |
re: #369 Cato the Elder
We’ll see. I’ve been wrong before. But my “spine” is a funny feeling that a Palin candidacy is what Obama would like best of anything.
Of course Obama would love it because the MSM would be on a 7/24 track to destroy her on his behalf just like they did in 2008. And it won’t matter if anything they say is true or not.
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karmapolice Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:13:15pm |
re: #376 Ringo the Gringo
I like Palin.
….as the govenor of Alaska.
Frankly it isn’t hard to be governor of Alaska. They have enough oil money to prevent any deficit. I never liked her. I did defend her when the media unfairly targeted her, but she made herself an easy target.
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:14:48pm |
re: #370 Globular Cluster
I would settle for some basic acquaintance with current events and American/World history. During the campaign she showed she has never bothered to think/explore/understand important issues. She can’t even dance-step around awkward questions. I defended her during the campaign because she was, indeed, mistreated by the MSM. But seriously, she understands foreign policy because Alaska is close to Russia? Please. She is an effective governor of Alaska, and belongs in Alaska. She is a death sentence to the next presidential ticket.
I found her comment about Alaska and Russia ‘tongue-in-cheek’. Well. The MSM had a field-day, didn’t they? She’ll know better in the coming years. You’ll see.
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snopercod Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:16:39pm |
re: #75 Iron Fist
…there is no real venue for us to push the agenda our way.
I respectfully disagree. Look at the traction that the ‘pubbies got for voting “HELL NO!” en masse on the son-of-crap-sandwich bill.
Sure, the ‘pubbies are outnumbered, but then so was Leonides…
Wolverines!
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:18:09pm |
re: #374 rightymouse
I love her ‘folksy’ way in the same way I love Fred Thompson’s ‘folksy’ way. They understand conservative principles and don’t mealy-mouth.
I don’t know poster Cato well enough to say why he doesn’t like her. A lot of guys didn’t and a lot of women didn’t either. They will have to search their souls to see if the issue of her being a woman is the main component of their distaste.
I jumped the demoncratic party in part because of her…I am tired of “smart” meaning schmooze and bull shit…
We the people- al of us, even the blue collars, deserve a government that is not all about the “correct” people who follow the “correct” path to power…
To quote working girl-the movie “I am not going to play by the rules that I had no part in writing”-
and
“If you are someone like me the only way you can get anywhere is to break the rules”
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:18:33pm |
re: #378 karmapolice
Frankly it isn’t hard to be governor of Alaska. They have enough oil money to prevent any deficit. I never liked her. I did defend her when the media unfairly targeted her, but she made herself an easy target.
It’s easy to be the governor of Alaska?
I hate to burst your bubble, but it’s not easy being the governor of any state, including Alaska.
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:18:49pm |
re: #379 rightymouse
I found her comment about Alaska and Russia ‘tongue-in-cheek’. Well. The MSM had a field-day, didn’t they? She’ll know better in the coming years. You’ll see.
That was Tina Fey who said “I can see Russia from my door” btw Palin never said it
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:19:09pm |
re: #382 rightymouse
It’s easy to be the governor of Alaska?
I hate to burst your bubble, but it’s not easy being the governor of any state, including Alaska.
word
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Globular Cluster Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:19:27pm |
re: #374 rightymouse
I love her ‘folksy’ way in the same way I love Fred Thompson’s ‘folksy’ way. They understand conservative principles and don’t mealy-mouth.
I don’t know poster Cato well enough to say why he doesn’t like her. A lot of guys didn’t and a lot of women didn’t either. They will have to search their souls to see if the issue of her being a woman is the main component of their distaste.
Which is why I advocated Carly Fiorina or Condi Rice on LGF numerous times, because I hate women. Palin is not only inarticulate, she shows an obvious lack of interest in national/world affairs that is truly embarrassing. There is “folksy”, and then there is a deer-in-the-headlights inability to field questions, coupled with an obvious lack of prior interest in history or world affairs.
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:19:36pm |
re: #374 rightymouse
I love her ‘folksy’ way in the same way I love Fred Thompson’s ‘folksy’ way. They understand conservative principles and don’t mealy-mouth.
I don’t know poster Cato well enough to say why he doesn’t like her. A lot of guys didn’t and a lot of women didn’t either. They will have to search their souls to see if the issue of her being a woman is the main component of their distaste.
I would like to see Fred! give off-the-record tips to Palin.
Fred! actually got some of my money before he dropped out.
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:20:26pm |
re: #381 DisturbedEma
I jumped the demoncratic party in part because of her…I am tired of “smart” meaning schmooze and bull shit…
We the people- al of us, even the blue collars, deserve a government that is not all about the “correct” people who follow the “correct” path to power…
To quote working girl-the movie “I am not going to play by the rules that I had no part in writing”-
and“If you are someone like me the only way you can get anywhere is to break the rules”
Welcome to the recovering Dem club! :) I jumped after 9/11 and have never looked back.
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:21:43pm |
re: #385 Globular Cluster
Which is why I advocated Carly Fiorina or Condi Rice on LGF numerous times, because I hate women. Palin is not only inarticulate, she shows an obvious lack of interest in national/world affairs that is truly embarrassing. There is “folksy”, and then there is a deer-in-the-headlights inability to field questions, coupled with an obvious lack of prior interest in history or world affairs.
Yeah- ok…dear leader is showing a lot of carnal interest in such things…and go hang the continued sinking of real people’s lives- this is so one sided and narrow a reason for your disgust…respectfully, I submit there was more to her than was shown…
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:22:03pm |
re: #383 DisturbedEma
That was Tina Fey who said “I can see Russia from my door” btw Palin never said it
Yes, I know. I think there was some comment about Russia being neighbors or something like that, but nothing like what the MSM purported to being from her.
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Joan Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:22:06pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire.
Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true.
Can I just resign from the right-wing blogosphere? I never joined anyway.
How stupid and embarrassing.
No, you can’t resign from the blogo, but you can resign from the rightwing part—be an indie or a libertarian but never stop being our fearless Lizard in Chief
/wink
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:22:20pm |
re: #388 rightymouse
Welcome to the recovering Dem club! :) I jumped after 9/11 and have never looked back.
so right…I mean correct:)
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:23:20pm |
re: #366 jwb7605
I agree, but Cato seems to be in the “I’ve already made my mind up” camp.
Palin will probably never lose her “folksy” way of talking, which is what attracts me to her. Cato seems to think it shows she’s terminally stupid.
Therefore, when Cato posts, I get a mental image of a couple PhD’s I know who intentionally talk over people … or at least think they do.
Sorry, but there’s a difference between “folksy” and obtuse. “Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy…”
The bailout she was talking about was the original 700-billion-dollar gift to the banks and insurance companies and brokerage houses. Please explain to me what it had to do with “the health care reform”! I’ll buy you a beer if you can. And pardon me, but weren’t the “real conservatives” against the bailout plan? Yet here she is, supporting it out of political expediency, with an argument that makes about as much sense as young-earth geology.
I get that you like her, and will therefore close your eyes to whatever absurdity she offers, but my standards require basic lucidity of thought, however “folksy” their expression. Reagan had that, Palin doesn’t.
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MarineVet Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:23:56pm |
I can honestly say that having Michael as the Chairman will bring a MUCH needed perspective to the RNC. Due to our situation I was teetering on the idea to leave and register as an Independent. With this appointment I can only believe the RNC will finally get out of the mess it is in and go back to what we stand for and that is CONSERVATIVE ideas and not the wishy washy crap that has been spewed by “fake” Republican politicians!
To all the RINO’s stand by for your reckoning too! (Republicans In Name Only)…..
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:24:55pm |
re: #393 Cato the Elder
Sorry, but there’s a difference between “folksy” and obtuse. “Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy…”
The bailout she was talking about was the original 700-billion-dollar gift to the banks and insurance companies and brokerage houses. Please explain to me what it had to do with “the health care reform”! I’ll buy you a beer if you can. And pardon me, but weren’t the “real conservatives” against the bailout plan? Yet here she is, supporting it out of political expediency, with an argument that makes about as much sense as young-earth geology.
I get that you like her, and will therefore close your eyes to whatever absurdity she offers, but my standards require basic lucidity of thought, however “folksy” their expression. Reagan had that, Palin doesn’t.
I respecfully offer her debate as cause to believe there was more to her than was edited…um shown
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:25:08pm |
re: #393 Cato the Elder
My mental image of you just solidified.
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Catttt Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:26:06pm |
Michael Steele is awesome, and the GOP needs some awesome.
OH - is this thread not about Michael Steele? I see y’all are talking AGAIN about Gov. Palin. Can you give Michael Steele a comment or two? Most of your Palin comments, on all sides, could be labeled with numbers, you know. YAWWWWWWN.
Anyway, back to the SUBJECT:
I was really ticked (but not surprised that he lost the senate race (this is a blue-dog Dem state), but I’m really hopeful that he’ll take big steps in the right direction - the GOP needs that.
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:26:36pm |
re: #394 MarineVet
I can honestly say that having Michael as the Chairman will bring a MUCH needed perspective to the RNC. Due to our situation I was teetering on the idea to leave and register as an Independent. With this appointment I can only believe the RNC will finally get out of the mess it is in and go back to what we stand for and that is CONSERVATIVE ideas and not the wishy washy crap that has been spewed by “fake” Republican politicians!
To all the RINO’s stand by for your reckoning too! (Republicans In Name Only)…..
I guess I have crossed over- I do not see myself as anything anymore- but would be hard pressed to vote democrat again- they do not care about my life- only my vote, after which they scramble out and suck off the same old same old…
sigh, ignorance was bliss…for awhile…
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karmapolice Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:27:14pm |
re: #394 MarineVet
I agree with you. Unless I saw something that reinvigorated my faith in the Republican party over the next few months, I was going to leave the Republican Party. Their standing strong and coming up with an effective counter-proposal to the stimulus-bill and the selection of Michael Steele has done just that.
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:28:15pm |
re: #397 Catttt
Michael Steele is awesome, and the GOP needs some awesome.
OH - is this thread not about Michael Steele? I see y’all are talking AGAIN about Gov. Palin. Can you give Michael Steele a comment or two? Most of your Palin comments, on all sides, could be labeled with numbers, you know. YAWWWWWWN.
Anyway, back to the SUBJECT:
I was really ticked (but not surprised that he lost the senate race (this is a blue-dog Dem state), but I’m really hopeful that he’ll take big steps in the right direction - the GOP needs that.
First- OT is allowed under the rules after 100 posts
Second- as this is ANOTHER historic event in the RNP- why then are you so disturbed by discussion of the public eviseration of the first woman…the most recent historical event prior…
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wiffersnapper Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:28:22pm |
Time until liberals condemn him being the head republican in charge by throwing oreos at him: 3 days.
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:28:23pm |
re: #385 Globular Cluster
Which is why I advocated Carly Fiorina or Condi Rice on LGF numerous times, because I hate women. Palin is not only inarticulate, she shows an obvious lack of interest in national/world affairs that is truly embarrassing. There is “folksy”, and then there is a deer-in-the-headlights inability to field questions, coupled with an obvious lack of prior interest in history or world affairs.
Ok - so her being a woman is not a problem for you. Her inexperience in the national spotlight was, despite how much she energized the base?
Let’s make a deal. Give Palin a couple of years staring into the biased MSM headlights. Then we’ll compare notes. Fair enough?
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:29:39pm |
re: #386 jwb7605
I would like to see Fred! give off-the-record tips to Palin.
Fred! actually got some of my money before he dropped out.
He was the only one I donated to this past election. Couldn’t even bring myself to donate to the RNC I was so disgusted.
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:29:54pm |
re: #401 wiffersnapper
Time until liberals condemn him being the head republican in charge by throwing oreos at him: 3 days.
all hail the tolerant left…NOT
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karmapolice Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:30:38pm |
re: #401 wiffersnapper
Time until liberals condemn him being the head republican in charge by throwing oreos at him: 3 days.
I can’t wait to see the hate-crazed faces on the moonbats and their reaction to this. I love hypocrisy!
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DisturbedEma Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:30:55pm |
Time to feed the twins and get Shabbos on- Chai Yall! they are getting so big already!
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:33:38pm |
re: #398 DisturbedEma
I guess I have crossed over- I do not see myself as anything anymore- but would be hard pressed to vote democrat again- they do not care about my life- only my vote, after which they scramble out and suck off the same old same old…
sigh, ignorance was bliss…for awhile…
You’re in good company. Lots of us jumped from the Dem party for one reason or another. I’ll never vote Democrat again.
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:33:42pm |
re: #403 rightymouse
He was the only one I donated to this past election. Couldn’t even bring myself to donate to the RNC I was so disgusted.
I am amazed that you were a Dem before 911.
We have something in common.
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:35:00pm |
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:39:27pm |
re: #383 DisturbedEma
That was Tina Fey who said “I can see Russia from my door” btw Palin never said it
Right. Tina just said the same thing as Sarah, only more succinctly.
Here’s Sarah:
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
And again:
COURIC: You’ve cited Alaska’s proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?
PALIN: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and on our other side, the land—boundary that we have with—Canada. It—it’s funny that a comment like that was—kind of made to—cari—I don’t know, you know? Reporters— [Babbles, blames reporters.]
COURIC: Mock?
PALIN: Yeah, mocked, I guess that’s the word, yeah.
COURIC: Explain to me why that enhances your foreign policy credentials.
PALIN: Well, it certainly does because our—our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They’re in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia—
COURIC: Have you ever been involved with any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?
PALIN: We have trade missions back and forth. We—we do—it’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where—where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is—from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to—to our state.
Tossup: Who is more coherent, Sarah Palin or Caroline Kennedy?
Poor Alaska.
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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:42:03pm |
re: #411 Cato the Elder
I take it you’ve spent time in Alaska.
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:43:33pm |
re: #409 jwb7605
I am amazed that you were a Dem before 911.
We have something in common.
I was ho-hum about politics until 9/11 and then the Dem party leaders began behaving badly - almost as though they were absolutely oblivious to the consequences of true evil.
When they began projecting evil onto GWB, instead of the real evil ones, I lost it.
Then I realized that the Dem party leaders had always done that. Stalin, Hitler, North Korea, Vietcong, Pol Pot, Saddam, yadayada. They simply cannot or will not face true evil and do the right things.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:44:14pm |
re: #396 jwb7605
My mental image of you just solidified.
You’re welcome to it.
“What other people think of me is none of my damn business!” —Moses Dow
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:45:00pm |
re: #406 DisturbedEma
Time to feed the twins and get Shabbos on- Chai Yall! they are getting so big already!
Bless you and your new babies! :)
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descolada9 Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:45:20pm |
Three cheers for Michael Steele and may he challenge Barak Obama in 2012! For now, though, I hope that he is able to guide the party to Congressional victories in 2010. Prayers for his success.
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Catttt Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:53:49pm |
re: #400 DisturbedEma
First- OT is allowed under the rules after 100 posts
Second- as this is ANOTHER historic event in the RNP- why then are you so disturbed by discussion of the public eviseration of the first woman…the most recent historical event prior…
Your first - You can post off-topic where ever you like - where did I say don’t post off topic? No where. I don’t have that power, nor do I want it.Will you stop it means I want you to stop it because it’s stupid, not you must stop it.
Your second - I thought I was clear in my first post - sorry if not. I was not chiding you - I was chiding THEM for constantly trotting Gov. Palin in so they can bash her. I understand your coming to her defense, but for me, it just seems to egg them on. I also sense more than a touch of sexism in some of their remarks. Oh, they will deny it, for sure, but it’s there (not every comment - but some).
You can’t successfully debate people whose opinion is conceived - wholly or partly - based on prejudice, because they just don’t want to know, and that’s where - imho - a lot of the anti-Palin remarks ad naseum come from. I’ve rarely seen a decent debate on the subject, because so many people bought into the media circus, it muddied the waters for her.
If the posters were serious about the subject, they would know enough to know the difference between what Gov. Palin said and what Tina Fricking Fay said. They do not, as they have proven over and over and over. Therefore, I ignore them.
I’m fairly easy going and rarely chide other posters, but damn but I’m getting tired of the constant Palin bashing. Since there are no Palin threads, these sorry fellers her drag her in on a whim so they can f**king bash her. I am good and tired of it. That is it for me on this subject - because it is like beating a dead horse.
I’m also DISMAYED that people here care so little about Michael Steele that they would rather go “oh - this is like Palin being the first female candidate - let’s make fun of her for the rest of the thread! Haw haw haw.”
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Ceemack Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:55:00pm |
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rightymouse Fri, Jan 30, 2009 3:59:56pm |
re: #417 Catttt
If the posters were serious about the subject, they would know enough to know the difference between what Gov. Palin said and what Tina Fricking Fay said. They do not, as they have proven over and over and over. Therefore, I ignore them.
I’m fairly easy going and rarely chide other posters, but damn but I’m getting tired of the constant Palin bashing. Since there are no Palin threads, these sorry fellers her drag her in on a whim so they can f**king bash her. I am good and tired of it. That is it for me on this subject - because it is like beating a dead horse.
I’m also DISMAYED that people here care so little about Michael Steele that they would rather go “oh - this is like Palin being the first female candidate - let’s make fun of her for the rest of the thread! Haw haw haw.”
Amen. Am rather tired of the Palin bashing myself.
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Taqyia2Me Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:00:11pm |
Congrats to Michael Steele, stay conservative, young man!
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SFGoth Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:10:57pm |
re: #25 Charles
Meanwhile, this ridiculous story about Obama changing the pledge of allegiance is spreading through right-wing blogs like wildfire. Man. Obama Derangement Syndrome is making people insane. This story doesn’t even pass the sniff test, and it’s even labeled “SATIRE” at the site where it first appeared, but blogger after blogger is posting it as if it were true. How stupid and embarrassing.
——————
Kinda like when I dangle a piece of raw tuna in front of my 15# stray tabby (whom I’ve previously mentioned :->). Like he’s not going to take a swipe at it? He can’t help it. He’s programmed to attack sashimi. It’s like these rightnuts, but at least Toonses is so cute.
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Cato the Elder Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:22:16pm |
re: #417 Catttt
I was chiding THEM for constantly trotting Gov. Palin in so they can bash her.
Read the thread. The ones who trotted Palin in where the enthusiasts who started gushing about “Palin/Steele ‘12”. After that, she’s fair game. Her supporters bring her up every chance they get.
I also sense more than a touch of sexism in some of their remarks.
Whatever. Dim is dim, whether male, female, black, white, white female, black male, transgendered mixed race, or any other combination.
If the posters were serious about the subject, they would know enough to know the difference between what Gov. Palin said and what Tina Fricking Fay said. They do not, as they have proven over and over and over.
See my post #411. What she said was even dumber than Tina’s satire.
Since there are no Palin threads, these sorry fellers her drag her in on a whim so they can f**king bash her.
Again, people bring her up, like they brought her up here, as though she was going to be the salvation of party and country. I don’t think so, and I’ll bloody well say so whenever I get the chance.
And by the way, Charles isn’t too thrilled with her, either:
re: #289 Charles
Four years is a long time, and things could happen to change everyone’s opinion. Barack Obama was barely on the radar in 2004. But I have to admit (at the risk of my karma suffering a hit) that I’m not very enthusiastic about Sarah Palin as a Presidential candidate right now. I think she did rather poorly in this last election on several fronts, especially on scientific issues, and I strongly disagree with her support of the marriage amendment.
Have a great evening anyway, hon!
(No, you others, I’m not being sexist - “hon” is a Baltimore term of endearment. And I know Catttt personally…)
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Hobbes Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:28:56pm |
re: #199 yochanan
the term R.I.N.O. if used in here will get a down ding from me. frankly if you want to win you need all REPUBLICANS and even some independents and if we are lucky even a few ‘reagan democrats’
this term creates dis-unity.
I really like your comments and more often than not I agree, but, on this issue I have to disagree. And, perhaps it’s because we define Rino differently. My definition is Republic In Name Only. Which means to me that they really are Democrats, but cannot win an election in their district if they admit it. With regard to broadening the base, as you suggest, don’t we need to take special care to avoid uniting at a point in the political spectrum which defines us as Democrats-lite. McCain demonstrated, didn’t he, the results of that strategy?
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boocat Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:52:07pm |
re: #219 jcbunga
Your pledge reminds me of that film, Being John Malkovich.
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boocat Fri, Jan 30, 2009 4:56:16pm |
re: #219 jcbunga
I pledge Obama to the Obama
Of the United Obama’s of Obamaca
And to the Obama, for which it Obamas,
One Obama, Under Obama,
Un-Obama-able
With Obama and Obama for Obama
I really like Michael Steele. Palin/Steele 2012
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Ron Shaw Fri, Jan 30, 2009 5:00:15pm |
That is fantastic!
But, do you actually think it will really matter politically-speaking to African-Americans, libs or other Dems? Not one atom is the quick answer, as those mentioned will marginalize him like all conservative or Republican African-Americans have been…Mr. Steele will also be disenfranchised from the fold…in essence he has figuratively become a racial enigma…black yet not, a Republican, a political enemy.
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Pete(Detroit) Fri, Jan 30, 2009 6:05:24pm |
re: #284 taxfreekiller
#263
Karl Levin is a fat ass dumb ass commie thug,
Unfortunately, there’s a lot of dumbass folks that keep electing him.
Had a perfectly good republican opponent, who appeared to get NO support what so ever, and went down in flames.
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least Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:16:54pm |
re: #417 CattttI agree w/you about the tendency — ok, compulsion — of some folks to engage in Palin bashing.
It’s unseemly and wrong!
I so wanted to be able to say, “My Vice-President is a woman”
Maybe I’ll be able to say “Mt President is a woman!
Hoping, I am.
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devil in baggy pants Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:22:33pm |
STEELE/HUNTER 2012
now THAT’S a ticket that can win!
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Spiny Norman Fri, Jan 30, 2009 7:39:33pm |
re: #401 wiffersnapper
Time until liberals condemn him being the head republican in charge by throwing oreos at him: 3 days.
Hell, I expect the Media to do that at his first news conference.
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notutopia Fri, Jan 30, 2009 8:32:33pm |
Michael Steele Bio
foxnews.com
Michael S. Steele served as Lieutenant Governor of Maryland from 2003 through 2007.
Steele is chairman of GOPAC.
When Steele was elected Lieutenant Governor of Maryland in 2003, he became the first African American elected to state-wide office in that state.
He is currently a partner in the international law firm of Dewey & LeBoeuf in Washington, D.C.
From 1991-1997, Steele was a corporate securities attorney at the international law firm of Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton in Washington, D.C., specializing in sophisticated financial transactions on behalf of Wall Street underwriters.
He also was a corporate finance counsel for the Mills Corporation and founded his own company, The Steele Group, a business and legal consulting firm.
His writings on law, business and politics have appeared in The Washington Times, Politico.com, Townhall.com, and The Journal of International Security Affairs, among others.
Named a 2005 Aspen Institute-Rodel Fellow in Public Leadership and awarded the 2005 Bethune-DuBois Institute Award for his ongoing work in the development of quality education in Maryland, Steele has served on a variety of boards and commissions, including the Export-Import Bank Advisory Board, the U.S. Naval Academy Board of Visitors, and the Republican National Committee.
Born in 1958 at Andrews Air Force Base in Prince Georges County, Maryland, Steele was raised in Washington, D.C.
He spent three years as a seminarian in the Order of St. Augustine in preparation for the priesthood, but ultimately chose a career in law instead.
He earned his law degree from Georgetown University Law Center in 1991.
Steele serves on the Administrative Board of the Maryland Catholic Conference and is a member of St. Marys Catholic Church in Landover Hills, MD, where he attends mass regularly with his wife Andrea and their two sons.
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