9/11 Trutherism on ‘Rescue Me’

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US News • Mon Feb 2, 2009 at 9:13 am PST • Views: 306

Coming soon on FX: 9/11 Trutherism for the masses, promoted by a cretinous actor who is a genuine, in-real-life Troofer. Disgusting.

A coming episode of the acclaimed FX drama “Rescue Me” will tackle what may sound like a far-fetched plot line: that the attacks of Sept. 11 were an “inside job.” The actor who espouses the theories on camera, it turns out, also subscribes to them in real life.

Claims that Al Qaeda terrorists were not solely responsible for the attacks have a lively following on the Internet, including on YouTube, but the second episode of “Rescue Me’s” fifth season, starting in April, may represent the first fictional presentation of 9/11 conspiracy theories by a mainstream media company (FX is operated by the News Corporation).

“They’re not discussed a lot in the press,” Daniel Sunjata, the actor who plays Franco Rivera on “Rescue Me,” told reporters at a television press tour last month. He predicted that the episode would be “socio-politically provocative.”

In the episode, Mr. Sunjata’s character delivers a two-minute monologue for a French journalist describing a “neoconservative government effort” to control the world’s oil, drastically increase military spending and “change the definition of pre-emptive attack.” To put it into action, he continues, “what you need is a new Pearl Harbor. That’s what they said they needed.”

Mr. Sunjata surprised some of the TV reporters when he said that he “absolutely, 100 percent” supports the assertion that “9/11 was an inside job.” The alternative theories “seem to me to make a lot more sense than the ones that are popularly espoused,” he said, calling it admirable that the conversation was allowed within “Rescue Me.”

Do the producers care at all that this is an evil, deceptive, steaming pile of nonsense promoted by reality-challenged morons? Of course not. Sunjata is “passionate.”

Peter Tolan, an executive producer, said Mr. Sunjata is “well read” and has “done a lot of research.”

“Look, obviously not all of us buy in,” he told reporters. “But we went: ‘Wow, that’s interesting, and he’s passionate about it. Let’s use that.’ ”

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1 Ben Hur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:14:39am

Damn that Neo-Con Murdoch!

2 Ojoe  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:15:17am

Any engineer or architect knows the truthers are full of it

3 Ben Hur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:15:30am

It was an inside job.

To get Obama elected.

4 abolitionist  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:15:49am

The planes were a distraction to draw attention away from the demolition teams?

5 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:15:54am

Can we get a clue-by-four for the troofer?

6 vapig  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:15:54am

“They’re not discussed a lot in the press,” Daniel Sunjata.

Uh - maybe because even the lefty loon media knows this is a pile of doo-doo?

7 WitchDoctor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:15:58am

A Moron. That's it. Just, a moron.

8 Cato the Elder  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:16:33am
Peter Tolan, an executive producer, said Mr. Sunjata is “well read” and has “done a lot of research.”

Ah, yes. The value of research. Especially internet research.

I'd like to get a look at Sunjata's bookshelf.

9 Ben Hur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:16:52am

And I find it offensive, racist and bigoted that this man doesn't think that Arab muslims have the capacity, qualifications and intellect to pull it off.

Why are only whites and Joos smart in his world?

10 loppyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:17:34am

I can't believe that Dennis Leary would go along with this. But then again, I think he caught the hope and change fevah.

11 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:17:51am

There is not a sensationalist low that Fox won't stoop to.

12 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:17:57am
socio-politically provocative

Know the motive, know the man.

13 Ben Hur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:17:57am
“neoconservative government effort”

Der Juden.

14 hindmost  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:18:06am
Any engineer or architect higher mammal with two functioning brain cells knows the truthers are full of it


The definition still might be a bit too narrow.

15 BIGDUKE 6  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:18:15am

What a shocker - a buffoon portraying a buffoon.

16 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:18:31am

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

Can we get a clue-by-four for the troofer?

I think this calls for a two-by-four instead.

17 winston06  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:18:43am

disgusting

18 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:18:51am

Anything for a buck. Including insulting the families of the 3000 victims.

19 reggie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:19:16am

Look, a dramatical TV series offers no insight into anything other than how low its producers will sink to generate controversy that gets it publicity. Are there any troofers in it for anything other than their own gain? Whether to get a higher profile, differentiate their candidate, or just to appear "smarter" than the other guy -the last thing driving troofers is insight.

20 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:19:24am

re: #2 Ojoe

Any engineer or architect knows the truthers are full of it

21 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:19:38am

To me, the most compelling refutation of these asshat troofers is the fact that if our government is in fact ruthless enough and competent enough to have pulled this off, why in the world would it not disappear nutjob conspiracy theorists like them...

22 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:19:41am

Rescue me needs rescue. It's about to jump the shark. Buh bye.

23 Lee Coller  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:19:43am

Is he a Holocaust denier too? Some may argue, but 9/11/ trooferism is just as bad as Holocaust denial. It's an attempt to deny history in a way that makes the world a more dangerous place.

24 itellu3times  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:20:10am

Welcome to the New Dark Ages.

25 Caboose  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:20:31am

I smells me a boycott a'cookin'... (is there any good reason to watch this channel in the first place? I rarely watch the boob tube and when I do, it is either the Discovery or History Channel, the legacy channels and CNN (Commentary, Not News) can go pound sand. I'm even avoiding FNN, since I cannot stand to see Obama if I don't have have to.

26 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:20:36am

re: #8 Cato the Elder

Sunjata's bookshelf

"Just a moment, let me run to a furniture store ... then by Barnes and ..."

/

27 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:20:47am

No doubt that in Hollywood circles this will be considered cutting edge and courageous. Keep speaking truth to power you fucktards...

28 redstateredneck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:20:48am

re: #7 WitchDoctor

A Moron. That's it. Just, a moron.


And how many morons will watch at home and say, "Yeah..that's it!"?

29 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:21:14am

This originated with Hamid Gul in Pakistan, the best friend Al Qaeda ever had. Meanwhile there's a fatwa in Indonesia because Rotary and Lion's clubs are part of the "international zionist conspiracy", and Sunjata can't figure out that's he's just furthering their agit-swill...

30 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:21:18am

So they go for it 'because he's passionate about it'?

Words fail me ...

31 vagabond trader  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:21:56am

re: #10 loppyd

He remains on the show, doesn't he?

32 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:22:08am

Now, does anyone think that FX and other New Corp. outlets (like Fox) are concerned with anything other than profits, which is ok, but personally, that's why I don't watch FNN anymore.

Fair and balanced my ass.

33 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:22:23am

Did Mr. Sunjata figure out it was Stan who left the deuce in the urinal yet, or is that an inside job as well?

What an asshat.

34 loppyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:22:23am

re: #25 Caboose

I smells me a boycott a'cookin'... (is there any good reason to watch this channel in the first place? I rarely watch the boob tube and when I do, it is either the Discovery or History Channel, the legacy channels and CNN (Commentary, Not News) can go pound sand. I'm even avoiding FNN, since I cannot stand to see Obama if I don't have have to.

Now that the Shield is over, nope.

35 loppyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:22:40am

re: #31 vagabond trader

He remains on the show, doesn't he?

Yep.

36 Thunderbottom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:23:01am

“Look, obviously not all of us buy in,” he told reporters. “But we went: ‘Wow, that’s interesting, and he’s passionate about it. Let’s use that.’ ”

Yeah - Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Bin Laden, and Ernesto "Che" Guevara were also very passionate. But, like the aforementioned, he's also very WRONG.

37 Eowyn2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:23:03am

re: #2 Ojoe

Any engineer or architect knows the truthers are full of it


or anyone with common sense

I understand he is auditioning for "are you smarter than a 5th grader"

38 Ben Hur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:23:20am

This is the same network that just had an episode of NipTuck that showed a woman cut off her own breast with a carving knife.

39 Stonemason  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:23:30am

As of right now I will begin to list the comercial supporters of this show, I will post that list on my blog, as small as it is, and here on open threads. We have until April to let the advertisers know that this is a travesty. I am all for free speech, I am all for allowing diverse thought, however, these are lies, not thought.
will check back soon

40 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:24:05am

They already went Troofer last year. Sunjata is a nutjob.

41 Kragar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:24:14am

As actors, its important we read articles from the internet and newspapers and repeat it like it our own opinions.

/Team America Mode

MATT DAMON!

42 vagabond trader  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:24:29am

So, when will a popular show refute the Gorbull warming rubbish?

43 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:24:39am

re: #39 Stonemason

As of right now I will begin to list the comercial supporters of this show, I will post that list on my blog, as small as it is, and here on open threads. We have until April to let the advertisers know that this is a travesty. I am all for free speech, I am all for allowing diverse thought, however, these are lies, not thought.
will check back soon

Nah, just don't watch it. Best boycott ever is the off button.

44 maddogg  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:25:02am

Reacue Me? If it ain't on the History Channel, Discovery, or Nat. Geo. or The Learning Channel or Fex News, I've never seen it.

/I just assume all the other channels suck.

45 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:25:25am

I posted a link to this some weeks ago & got dinged down for it, too. The comments on the original article (KC Star, IIRC) page were nearly 100% in favor of Trooferism.

46 ThinkRight  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:25:34am

re: #42 vagabond trader

So, when will a popular show refute the Gorbull warming rubbish?


Sounds like a good show for Mythbusters

47 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:25:47am

Here's a photo of him proudly showing his insanity.

48 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:26:02am
49 loppyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:26:20am

BBL

50 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:26:22am

A truly courageous portrayal would be an honest show about President Bush's successful efforts to protect us after 9-11. In today's media climate however, that would be career suicide, with the author exiled and ostracized. And these bastards bitch about McCarthy...? The depths of their hypocricy knows no limits...
Bastards.

51 Eowyn2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:26:24am

What are the ratings for "Rescue Me" as a non-participant in the cable/satelite system, I've never seen it nor have I even heard of it. Sounds like a cross between Fantasy Island, Lost, The Twilight Zone, and Survivor. All very good reality tv but slightly off kilter for dramatic effect.

52 Ron Shaw  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:26:28am

re: #24 itellu3times

Welcome to the New Dark Ages.

...and the way out is cold, damp, dimly lit and distant, oh so very far.

53 Kragar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:26:46am

re: #42 vagabond trader

So, when will a popular show refute the Gorbull warming rubbish?

Bullshit did a few episodes on the hypocrisy behind GW and the green movement.

54 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:26:51am

re: #45 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I posted a link to this some weeks ago & got dinged down for it, too. The comments on the original article (KC Star, IIRC) page were nearly 100% in favor of Trooferism.

There are more of the whackjobs than we realise. I swear, people will believe almost any damn thing under the sun.

55 Ben Hur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:27:03am

Hey, James Bond Casino Royale also had trutherism in it.

M tells Bond that the real culprits of 9/11 were a consortium (of apparently white euros) of criminals that shorted airline stock just before the attacks.

And the terror attack on the new jumbo plane that Bond prevents is really just more of the same stock manipulation.

CAN'T YOU SEE!?!?!?!?

56 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:27:06am

re: #44 maddogg

Reacue Me? If it ain't on the History Channel, Discovery, or Nat. Geo. or The Learning Channel or Fex News, I've never seen it.

/I just assume all the other channels suck.

I could list a few great TV shows you haven't seen, including Burn Notice (my personal favorite). 24 is also great, even with Janeane Garafalo.

57 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:27:23am

re: #33 Honorary Yooper

Did Mr. Sunjata figure out it was Stan who left the deuce in the urinal yet, or is that an inside job as well?

What an asshat.

This sounds like a job for the Hardly Boys. Time for him to get a raging clue!

58 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:27:37am

re: #42 vagabond trader

So, when will a popular show refute the Gorbull warming rubbish?

Good question!

Perhaps people are not yet passionate enough about it?

59 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:00am

The conspiracy is the conspiracy. Left-wingers like to spread lies. They are A+ at it.

60 vagabond trader  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:13am

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bullshit is a tv show? I mean, most tv is just that.

61 wrenchwench  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:16am

TV is overrated.

62 tfc3rid  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:18am

Then Denis Leary's character will call him a Fucking Unpatriotic Asshole...

63 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:23am

re: #38 Ben HurAn electric one, no less. Wow, how sick was that?

64 tfc3rid  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:31am

re: #2 Ojoe

Any engineer or architect knows the truthers are full of it

Absolutely.

65 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:31am

Wait. I may have made a mistake up thread. Is FX owned by Murdock? The same Murdock as Fox's Murdock?

66 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:34am

re: #55 Ben Hur

Hey, James Bond Casino Royale also had trutherism in it.

M tells Bond that the real culprits of 9/11 were a consortium (of apparently white euros) of criminals that shorted airline stock just before the attacks.

And the terror attack on the new jumbo plane that Bond prevents is really just more of the same stock manipulation.

CAN'T YOU SEE!?!?!?!?

That movie was pure garbage, I rented the DVD and dumped it after 5 minutes. It Sucked!

67 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:28:42am

re: #50 LGoPs

A truly courageous portrayal would be an honest show about President Bush's successful efforts to protect us after 9-11. In today's media climate however, that would be career suicide, with the author exiled and ostracized. And these bastards bitch about McCarthy...? The depths of their hypocricy knows no limits...
Bastards.

That show won't be made.
It'd be FAR too (*cough*) "socio-politically provocative".

68 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:29:04am

re: #61 wrenchwench

TV is overrated.

It's called the boob tube for a reason.

69 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:29:17am

NCIS is also not too shabby.

70 Ben Hur  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:29:25am

re: #63 JammieWearingFool

An electric one, no less. Wow, how sick was that?


Didn't know, didn't watch.

That show is ridiculous.

71 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:29:26am

re: #56 Golem Akbar

I could list a few great TV shows you haven't seen, including Burn Notice (my personal favorite). 24 is also great, even with Janeane Garafalo.

I love Burn Notice! It's such a great throwback to 80s action series. Action, humor, a sweet Charger, Gabrielle Anwar's legs & Bruce Campbell's chin - what more can you ask for in a TV show?

72 imtoast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:29:26am

It never ceases to amaze me that people sit down to watch the TV and believe everything in the program. What part of fantasy do they not understand? TV is only a medium, not fact. Even the programs that are supposed to give facts are suspect. I just don't get why people don't use their reasoning skills.

73 ThinkRight  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:29:36am

re: #68 Honorary Yooper

It's called the boob tube for a reason.


Woohoo !
A boob thread

74 Joan Not of Arc  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:29:42am

re: #2 Ojoe

Any survivor who ran out of those buildings knows the "truthers" are full of it.

75 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:29:53am

re: #65 Walter L. Newton

Wait. I may have made a mistake up thread. Is FX owned by Murdock? The same Murdock as Fox's Murdock?

Yeppers.

76 redstateredneck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:30:07am
77 tackle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:30:12am

re: #50 LGoPs

A truly courageous portrayal would be an honest show about President Bush's successful efforts to protect us after 9-11. In today's media climate however, that would be career suicide, with the author exiled and ostracized. And these bastards bitch about McCarthy...? The depths of their hypocricy knows no limits...
Bastards.


The efforts that Obama systematically reversed in his first week of office.

78 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:30:12am

re: #69 Golem Akbar

NCIS is also not too shabby.

I love NCIS. More than a few episodes there have dealt with Islamic terrorists.

79 vagabond trader  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:30:20am

Last time I looked, over 30% of Americans polled believe 9/11 was an inside job or that there was a coverup.Nothing like giving them a national platform.

80 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:30:23am

re: #11 Thanos

There is not a sensationalist low that Fox won't stoop to.

this kind of TV entertainment is as foreign to me as Greek...it's just another cartoon

81 Rollie the Guar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:30:23am

Ugh, disgusting. FX really is quite a cesspit.

82 maddogg  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:30:32am

re: #56 Golem Akbar

I could list a few great TV shows you haven't seen, including Burn Notice (my personal favorite). 24 is also great, even with Janeane Garafalo.

My Wife once forced me to sit through one episode of "Damages". Damn near killed me...

83 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:30:35am

Anything for ratings! this will really hit the marginal moron demographic sweet spot!

84 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:30:45am

re: #72 imtoast

It never ceases to amaze me that people sit down to watch the TV and believe everything in the program. What part of fantasy do they not understand? TV is only a medium, not fact. Even the programs that are supposed to give facts are suspect. I just don't get why people don't use their reasoning skills.

Heh.
Thinking for oneself is too much like hard work!

85 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:25am

re: #75 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yeppers.

Ok, then I didn't make a mistake. And no one wants to comment on my statement...

"Now, does anyone think that FX and other New Corp. outlets (like Fox) are concerned with anything other than profits, which is ok, but personally, that's why I don't watch FNN anymore. Fair and balanced my ass."

I guess FX bad, FNN good, huh? I don't like to compromise if I can help it.

86 vagabond trader  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:28am

re: #58 yma o hyd

Never happen, tv here is also owned by left leaning tools.

87 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:30am

re: #68 Honorary Yooper

It's called the boob tube for a reason.

Gives boobs a bad name IMHO

88 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:31am

re: #72 imtoast

It never ceases to amaze me that people sit down to watch the TV and believe everything in the program. What part of fantasy do they not understand? TV is only a medium, not fact. Even the programs that are supposed to give facts are suspect. I just don't get why people don't use their reasoning skills.

I did. I quit watching TV altogether in the early 80's.

89 Golem Akbar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:35am

re: #78 Honorary Yooper

I love NCIS. More than a few episodes there have dealt with Islamic terrorists.

I can't believe more Lizards haven't picked up on it, yet.

90 Eowyn2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:38am

re: #55 Ben Hur

Hey, James Bond Casino Royale also had trutherism in it.

M tells Bond that the real culprits of 9/11 were a consortium (of apparently white euros) of criminals that shorted airline stock just before the attacks.

And the terror attack on the new jumbo plane that Bond prevents is really just more of the same stock manipulation.

CAN'T YOU SEE!?!?!?!?

You mean James Bond movies have a plot?

91 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:43am

re: #42 vagabond trader

So, when will a popular show refute the Gorbull warming rubbish?

Probably not until we're actually in the next ice age...

92 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:44am

re: #76 redstateredneck

All you need to know about Daniel Sanjata.

Omigawd - just reading the headline was quite quite sufficient!

93 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:52am

re: #76 redstateredneck

All you need to know about Daniel Sanjata.

If a picture is worth a thousand words, then a video is a worth ten thousand.

94 Dianna  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:59am

I need coffee. This is too annoying to be dealt with without a lot more caffeine.

95 tfc3rid  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:31:59am

re: #56 Golem Akbar

I could list a few great TV shows you haven't seen, including Burn Notice (my personal favorite). 24 is also great, even with Janeane Garafalo.

Burn Notice is very good. This season, 24 is also really back in stride...

I also have to say I enjoyed the USA summertime series In Plain Sight.

96 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:32:14am

I wonder if the charater will use the "Chicken Wire" demonstration to prove his point to the Fwench reporter charater?

97 andopolis  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:32:27am

breaking news... Al Gore stepped off of his jet today and saw his shadow... that means four more years of global warming.

98 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:32:29am

re: #28 redstateredneck

And how many morons will watch at home and say, "Yeah..that's it!"?

That's the problem. If this show gets good ratings, and gets talked about, there will be more troofer shows. And then, people who get their news from entertainment shows (and let's face it, most TV news is entertainment, as said in Network) will start to believe it.

Let's face it, the MSM convinced over half the US that a card-carrying socialist in bed with a crooked political machine could save the US from the problems the MSM blows up into disasters.

99 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:33:05am
100 redstateredneck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:33:13am

re: #92 yma o hyd

Omigawd - just reading the headline was quite quite sufficient!

He and Rosie O'Donnell are big buds, too.
:D

101 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:33:26am

re: #70 Ben Hur

Didn't know, didn't watch.

That show is ridiculous.

I hadn't see it for a while but saw it the other night. My wife was horrified. Nothing shocks me, but it was pretty gross.

102 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:34:04am

re: #93 Honorary Yooper

If a picture is worth a thousand words, then a video is a worth ten thousand.

And he is talking about how obsessed Obama fans are. Has he ever seen McKinney in action? Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black... ah shit... I can't say that...

103 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:34:10am

re: #86 vagabond trader

Never happen, tv here is also owned by left leaning tools.

TV stations everywhere, even the so-called 'independent' ones like the Beeb, are totally populated by LLL.
They don't even begin to notice that they spout non-stop drivel.

104 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:34:12am

re: #89 Golem Akbar

I can't believe more Lizards haven't picked up on it, yet.


I will begin watching it.

105 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:34:15am

Rosie O'Donnell the new Tug Boat Annie...:p

106 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:34:30am

re: #66 Dustyvet

That movie was pure garbage, I rented the DVD and dumped it after 5 minutes. It Sucked!

Well, you got lucky. I saw Casino Royale in the theater and really enjoyed it. (Especially the urban runner kid in the open.)

So, when Quantum of Crap came out, the wife and I went to the theater, plopped down our dollars and...

OMG! I couldn't believe what they must have been thinking on this one. It was so bad I actually dozed off.

If they don't get this back on track, Daniel Craig will be looking for another gig (although I do like him).

107 Big Steve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:34:43am

Lets hold on here...I love this show and it is rooted in 9/11 in that the main characters were fireman who responded. My guess is that "Tommy" will have a fit at the character who claims this.

108 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:34:45am

re: #105 Dustyvet

Rosie O'Donnell the new Tug Boat Annie...:p

Tugboat? She's the whole fleet.

109 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:34:50am

re: #94 Dianna

I need coffee. This is too annoying to be dealt with without a lot more caffeine.

That's a good idea. It's 10:30 am and I haven't even brewed a pot.

110 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:35:07am

RoP in Thailand...
2 militiamen killed in southern Thailand

Two paramilitary troops were killed Monday in southern Thailand by suspected Muslim insurgents who tried to behead them, a military spokesman said.

Col. Parinya Chaidilok said the two men were riding a motorcycle in Pattani province when they were shot in an ambush.

Both of the dead men were rangers, who are generally local residents hired as armed auxiliaries to the regular military.

The head of one of the victims, a Muslim, was cut off and was missing, while the attackers apparently tried and failed to decapitate the other man, a Buddhist.

Both of their bodies and their motorcycle had been burned, Parinya said.

111 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:35:32am

re: #99 buzzsawmonkey

The concept of patriotism is dead; to more than half of the public, one is only patriotic if one likes the current President.

The concept of objective truth is dead; to a substantial portion of the public, how they "feel" about an issue trumps any fact in support of or contrary to their position.

The concept of responsibility is dead; to a majority of those currently in power, the laws of economics and of physics can be reversed by majority vote.

We are in very deep trouble.

What all this means is that the Republic is near death...sadly.

112 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:35:33am

re: #109 Walter L. Newton

That's a good idea. It's 10:30 am and I haven't even brewed a pot.

/Why in Gods name would you do that to yourself!?

113 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:35:47am

re: #106 subsailor68

Well, you got lucky. I saw Casino Royale in the theater and really enjoyed it. (Especially the urban runner kid in the open.)

So, when Quantum of Crap came out, the wife and I went to the theater, plopped down our dollars and...

OMG! I couldn't believe what they must have been thinking on this one. It was so bad I actually dozed off.

If they don't get this back on track, Daniel Craig will be looking for another gig (although I do like him).

Shaky-cam action sequences must be stopped!

114 doppelganglander  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:35:52am

re: #30 yma o hyd

So they go for it 'because he's passionate about it'?

Words fail me ...

You know who else was passionate about something...

115 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:35:58am

re: #99 buzzsawmonkey

The concept of objective truth is dead; to a substantial portion of the public, how they "feel" about an issue trumps any fact in support of or contrary to their position.

Well, it all depends on how you look at it.

(ducks and runs)

/

116 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:36:38am

re: #76 redstateredneck

All you need to know about Daniel Sanjata.

That was rife with all-of-you-know-what-I-mean allusions.

117 tackle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:36:39am

re: #76 redstateredneck

All you need to know about Daniel Sanjata.

This guy is crazy. The McKinney support makes sense. In the video he says "Obama's gonna get it like Caesar got it from Brutus."

118 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:36:42am

re: #112 Creeping Eruption

/Why in Gods name would you do that to yourself!?

Let's not forget that Walter has also requested a link to nude photos of Janeane Garafalo. Maybe he just enjoys suffering?

119 redstateredneck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:37:18am

re: #112 Creeping Eruption

/Why in Gods name would you do that to yourself!?


Really...I don't wanna see anybody; I don't wanna talk to anybody; I don't even wanna look at anybody til I've had my coffee!

120 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:37:24am

re: #108 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Tugboat? She's the whole fleet.

She eats tugboats for breakfast.

121 Eowyn2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:37:55am

re: #79 vagabond trader

Last time I looked, over 30% of Americans polled believe 9/11 was an inside job or that there was a coverup.Nothing like giving them a national platform.

Why is this clause included in the poll? I'm sure there were things that were not released to the press and general population regarding the criminals who flew the planes into the side of three buildings and tried to do the same with a fourth. That doesnt make me a troofer and the question of:
"do you believe that 911 was an inside job or that there could be a coverup of some sort" Is very vague but it will get the numbers up so that it has the appearance of a serious belief throughout the country and bears looking into.

I would like to see an LGF poll on
"How many people do you know personally who believes in 9/11 trooferism?"

Zombie cannot count anyone at the demonstrations unless she/he/it knows them personally.

122 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:38:03am

re: #118 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

nude photos of Janeane Garafalo?

I guess a cup of hot coffee could also be used to burn that image off of my brain . . .

123 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:38:06am

re: #113 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Shaky-cam action sequences must be stopped!

Oh dude, you couldn't be more right! IIRC, a guy won an Oscar for developing a gimbal operated steady cam that Wolfgang Peterson needed for Das Boot (to allow him to run through the passageways on the sub.

Well, you idiots with your shaky cams...get a clue!

124 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:38:06am

re: #112 Creeping Eruption

/Why in Gods name would you do that to yourself!?

What, brew a pot of coffee? Er, I don't know, because I don't have any tea. I like coffee. I need to have a bowel movement.

That's a strange question.

125 RaiderDan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:38:14am

As a former firefighter and EMT who was in uniform on 9-11 in Montgomery County, MD waiting for the call that would send us to the Pentagon or New York (or the next attack) this completely disgusts me. Our firehouse used to stop at 10pm for the "Rescue Me Drill"

No more. Rescue Me is DEAD TO ME now.

126 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:38:18am

re: #118 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Let's not forget that Walter has also requested a link to nude photos of Janeane Garafalo. Maybe he just enjoys suffering?

I just threw up in my mouth a little. Thanks for that!

127 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:39:05am

re: #114 doppelganglander

Exactly!

So can we now assume that if one's passionate about something, thats gotta be the troof?

Un-effen-believable.

128 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:39:35am

re: #123 subsailor68

Oh dude, you couldn't be more right! IIRC, a guy won an Oscar for developing a gimbal operated steady cam that Wolfgang Peterson needed for Das Boot (to allow him to run through the passageways on the sub.

Well, you idiots with your shaky cams...get a clue!

I know John Dykstra invented a steady-cam for the Death Star trench sequences in Star Wars.

129 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:39:44am

re: #124 Walter L. Newton

What, brew a pot of coffee? Er, I don't know, because I don't have any tea. I like coffee. I need to have a bowel movement.

That's a strange question.

NOT brew a pot of coffee by 10:30 am - unless of course you woke up at 10:29 am, then I might understand.

130 Desert Dog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:40:07am

re: #97 andopolis

breaking news... Al Gore stepped off of his jet today and saw his shadow... that means four more years of global warming.


Al Gore's shadow is big enough to end global warming on it's own. He should just park his ass in front of the sun and cool down Mother Gaia for us all.

131 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:40:07am

re: #127 yma o hyd

Exactly!

So can we now assume that if one's passionate about something, thats gotta be the troof?

Un-effen-believable.

Well, I am very passionate about knocking the crap out of these morons.

And that's the troof.

132 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:40:10am

re: #120 Wyatt Earp

She eats tugboats for breakfast.


God I'm old..:)

133 yma o hyd  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:40:32am

re: #117 tackle

This guy is crazy. The McKinney support makes sense. In the video he says "Obama's gonna get it like Caesar got it from Brutus."

That, imho, is a call for assassination, and the Secret Service really ought to be told about this.

134 Diamond Bullet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:40:34am

Anyone had the misfortune of seeing "Lie to Me" on FOX, starring Tim Roth? The show was basically written by moonbats. One recent episode involved a rapist felon Army captain who abused his female troops. In the course of the episode, the actors made questioned the Army's decision to enlist felons, its deployments to Afghanistan, pointed out how many troops have gone AWOL (because this should presumably be blamed on the Army itself, not the deserters), and otherwise did all they could to describe the military as one big rape factory. Evidence of people "lying" through their body language was inevitably shown in relation to clips of Bush and Nixon. It has to be seen (and the swiftly shut off) to be believed.

135 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:40:43am

re: #123 subsailor68

Oh dude, you couldn't be more right! IIRC, a guy won an Oscar for developing a gimbal operated steady cam that Wolfgang Peterson needed for Das Boot (to allow him to run through the passageways on the sub.

Well, you idiots with your shaky cams...get a clue!

Steady cams do not shake. They provide POV shots, while constantly maintaining a zero point of both focus and center of gravity.

Any time you see a movie that has that "natural" shaky look, it's a camera with out the gyro stabilizers.

136 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:41:04am

re: #128 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I know John Dykstra invented a steady-cam for the Death Star trench sequences in Star Wars.

That's right! I'd forgotten about that. Those scenes still hold up (unlike some of the others).

137 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:41:07am

Why shouldn't the media broadcast troofer tv? After all, the "news" channels & "news" papers print a troofer version of the world. For example:

More strains on Gaza ceasefire as Israeli missile kills Palestinian militant

And from the story comes this odd sentence fragment, cognitively isolated from the headline:

But sporadic firing of the home-made missiles by some militant groups has continued...

In the War on Terror Troofer mindset of the media, anything a democracy does to defend itself is "aggresssive". While anything the terrorists do is normal, unremarkable and part of the "ceasefire" or "peace-process".

The whole fricken' media is infected with a troofer-like mentality.

138 redc1c4  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:41:10am

i'd boycott the show, but we've never watched it. in fact, we're watching less and less TV each year, as the offerings get worse & worse.

"television is called a medium because it is neither rare nor well done."
Ernie Kovacs

139 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:41:42am

re: #129 Creeping Eruption

NOT brew a pot of coffee by 10:30 am - unless of course you woke up at 10:29 am, then I might understand.

That's not the way you framed the question the first time. Now I feel like a fool. Was that your purpose?
/

140 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:42:09am

re: #134 Diamond Bullet

Anyone had the misfortune of seeing "Lie to Me" on FOX, starring Tim Roth? The show was basically written by moonbats. One recent episode involved a rapist felon Army captain who abused his female troops. In the course of the episode, the actors made questioned the Army's decision to enlist felons, its deployments to Afghanistan, pointed out how many troops have gone AWOL (because this should presumably be blamed on the Army itself, not the deserters), and otherwise did all they could to describe the military as one big rape factory. Evidence of people "lying" through their body language was inevitably shown in relation to clips of Bush and Nixon. It has to be seen (and the swiftly shut off) to be believed.

It looked interesting, until I saw that the Army going to be investigated. All I need to know to not watch something.

141 Dustyvet  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:42:12am

re: #138 redc1c4

i'd boycott the show, but we've never watched it. in fact, we're watching less and less TV each year, as the offerings get worse & worse.

"television is called a medium because it is neither rare nor well done."
Ernie Kovacs

142 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:42:43am

re: #134 Diamond Bullet

Anyone had the misfortune of seeing "Lie to Me" on FOX, starring Tim Roth? The show was basically written by moonbats. One recent episode involved a rapist felon Army captain who abused his female troops. In the course of the episode, the actors made questioned the Army's decision to enlist felons, its deployments to Afghanistan, pointed out how many troops have gone AWOL (because this should presumably be blamed on the Army itself, not the deserters), and otherwise did all they could to describe the military as one big rape factory. Evidence of people "lying" through their body language was inevitably shown in relation to clips of Bush and Nixon. It has to be seen (and the swiftly shut off) to be believed.

add to the ratings...yes, feed the beast

143 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:43:02am

re: #78 Honorary Yooper

I love NCIS. More than a few episodes there have dealt with Islamic terrorists.

Oh come on! Everybody knows you just want to get into Zeva's pants ...
/

144 carefulnow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:43:43am

Who are the show's sponsors? We could write them letters about how we won't buy their products...

145 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:44:03am

re: #126 Wyatt Earp

I just threw up in my mouth a little. Thanks for that!

What's the frecking problem. Gee, when those naked pictures of Amy Winebottle, or what ever the hell her name is, guys here were going goo-goo.

Tell me if the difference between those two woman? Amy's taller, that must make her better looking. I don't think either is good looking, but there is a bit of a "trampy" sexiness to both of them. I like that sometimes, so sue me.

146 CommonCents  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:44:40am

Ratings in my house will be in the neighborhood of 0.00000

147 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:44:46am

re: #135 Walter L. Newton

Steady cams do not shake. They provide POV shots, while constantly maintaining a zero point of both focus and center of gravity.

Any time you see a movie that has that "natural" shaky look, it's a camera with out the gyro stabilizers.

Hi Walter! Yep. I'm not always/completely against the shaky look, but it seems overdone lately. The Bourne Supremacy (IIRC) was so overdone it made me queasy, and I couldn't make out what was happening half the time.

148 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:45:02am

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

That's not the way you framed the question the first time. Now I feel like a fool. Was that your purpose?
/

/ I live merely to point out the folly in not drinking coffee.

149 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:45:43am

What's most heinous about this kookspiracy is how it crosses left to right in a broad populist smear from the Ron Paul / Lew Rockwell camp to the Fisk / Kucinich camp.

150 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:45:52am

re: #148 Creeping Eruption

/ I live merely to point out the folly in not drinking coffee.

What are you, the coffee nazi?
/

151 KitchenQueen  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:45:58am

Is he going to keep living in his imaginary little world all the way to when he gets his head cut off? Will he ever understand that Al Qaeda and their buddies want to kill him, too?

152 subsailor68  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:46:02am

Oh goody! A David Duke thread. Gotta check that one out. The moron.

153 itellu3times  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:46:26am

re: #99 buzzsawmonkey

Aw, buzz, mellow out. It's always been that way for most of the public. What has changed, if anything, is that our elected representatives are less "elite" than in the past, or find themselves pandering more, probably due to the new media realities. What has suffered (I'm making this up as I type, btw) is the concept of a representative republican (!) form of government, in which we trust the elected representatives to do the right thing. Heck, Plato knew that pandering to the mob, caused government to fail, he hated democracy, which is a primary reason why our founding fathers didn't chose it.

That, and traditions from the British parliament, and lots of other stuff.

154 monkeytime  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:46:43am

re: #121 Eowyn2

Why is this clause included in the poll? I'm sure there were things that were not released to the press and general population regarding the criminals who flew the planes into the side of three buildings and tried to do the same with a fourth. That doesnt make me a troofer and the question of:
"do you believe that 911 was an inside job or that there could be a coverup of some sort" Is very vague but it will get the numbers up so that it has the appearance of a serious belief throughout the country and bears looking into.

I would like to see an LGF poll on
"How many people do you know personally who believes in 9/11 trooferism?"

Zombie cannot count anyone at the demonstrations unless she/he/it knows them personally.

My partner is a 9/11 trofferism. We share an office about 8 X 12. He is about 12 in from me now. Gross.

155 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:48:45am

re: #154 monkeytime

My partner is a 9/11 trofferism. We share an office about 8 X 12. He is about 12 in from me now. Gross.

Spitballs?

156 Dianna  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:49:51am

re: #109 Walter L. Newton

That's a good idea. It's 10:30 am and I haven't even brewed a pot.

It's a desperate need.

157 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:49:55am

re: #150 Walter L. Newton

What are you, the coffee nazi?
/

Big coffee has the juice running, and I am trying to pay them back anyway I can.

158 Randall Gross  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:50:42am

What's most ridiculous is that all the troofers are ignoring KSM's rants and confessions in the Gitmo trials.

159 Eowyn2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:51:27am

re: #134 Diamond Bullet

Anyone had the misfortune of seeing "Lie to Me" on FOX, starring Tim Roth? The show was basically written by moonbats. One recent episode involved a rapist felon Army captain who abused his female troops. In the course of the episode, the actors made questioned the Army's decision to enlist felons, its deployments to Afghanistan, pointed out how many troops have gone AWOL (because this should presumably be blamed on the Army itself, not the deserters), and otherwise did all they could to describe the military as one big rape factory. Evidence of people "lying" through their body language was inevitably shown in relation to clips of Bush and Nixon. It has to be seen (and the swiftly shut off) to be believed.

I'll take your word for it. I wont pay to see it.

160 Eowyn2  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:52:12am

re: #154 monkeytime

My partner is a 9/11 trofferism. We share an office about 8 X 12. He is about 12 in from me now. Gross.

Might I suggest a looped Osama Bin Laden taking the blame tape?

161 Stonemason  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:52:23am

re: #43 Golem Akbar

Nah, just don't watch it. Best boycott ever is the off button.

Yup...but the advertisers need to know Why we are tuning out. This is a favorite pressure point of the left, and yes, a favorite pressure point of the far right, but letting advertisers know how consumers feel is important.

So, for those that want it, click on my nic for the begining list...for those that do not, don't click through. I will not post the addresses here as Mr. Johnson has requested we do not do such.

162 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:52:33am
163 Irenike  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:53:13am

What scares me about these damned troofers is that they are paving the way for anti-Semitism, whether they realize it or not.

Once it becomes commonplace to see troofer lies as legitimate, "alternative" viewpoints, is only a short leap to blaming the Jews (aka "neoconservatives") and then finding Final Solutions to the world's problems that have nothing to do with reality. Anti-semites are the original troofers, and they've been around a lot longer than these 9/11 Conspiracy liars.

At the very least, troofers aid and abet the true evildoers who are responsible for mass murder. I just wish there were some way to make these friggin' idiots pay the price for their idiocy. Re-assigning Sunjata to sewer-cleaning duty under the streets of Los Angeles would be a good place to start. At least he'd be doing something to help the world instead of hurt it, and we wouldn't have to listen to him flap his trap.

164 vagabond trader  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:53:18am

re: #158 Thanos

But but but we tortured him, therefore what he confessed is coerced lies.

/

165 winston06  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:53:23am

9/11 truthers are mentally ill. They really need to get some professional psychiatric help if they can.

166 itellu3times  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 9:57:11am

re: #162 buzzsawmonkey

I beg to differ with you.

While there have always been prejudices which trumped good sense and even self interest, while there has always been mob emotion, the very concept that objective fact does not exist has never taken such a beating as it has in recent decades.

The last echoes of the Enlightenment are ending, not with a bang, but a whimper, as both the concept of objective fact and any recognition of its value is dismissed by a secular priesthood of entertainment icons and social welfare engineers who exalt the primacy of feeling over any form of knowledge.

Please don't beg, it's unbecoming. Here, let me buy you a drink.

Anyway, it's all in Ayn Rand, in Atlas Shrugged, in the progressiveness of the Wilson administration, in revolutionary France, in medieval populist movements.

There is nothing new under the sun.

167 locutus  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:05:53am
re: #42 vagabond trader
So, when will a popular show refute the Gorbull warming rubbish?
Sounds like a good show for Mythbusters

Adam Savage was the keynote speaker at last year's "HOPE" conference (a hacker conference put on by the 2600 Magazine people). Adam gave a 15 minute talk about his S/FX career, then took some questions from the audience (Keep in mind that 99.8% of the "hackers" in the world are lefties, raving moonbats and Bush haters). A moonbat in the audience asked him "hey, you guys (on Mythbusters) should build a scale model of the WTC, soak it with jet fuel and set it on fire, and see what happens..". Adam responded "you know, that one has been on our list".

Not that I'm going to stop watching Mythbusters. Hollywood special effects people, living and working in San Francisco, it is a foregone conclusion that almost everyone affiliated with the show is a liberal of some stripe. I think they do a pretty good job of keeping their ideologies out of the show, so no need for a boycott in my opinion.

168 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:09:59am

re: #167 locutus

Adam Savage was the keynote speaker at last year's "HOPE" conference (a hacker conference put on by the 2600 Magazine people). Adam gave a 15 minute talk about his S/FX career, then took some questions from the audience (Keep in mind that 99.8% of the "hackers" in the world are lefties, raving moonbats and Bush haters). A moonbat in the audience asked him "hey, you guys (on Mythbusters) should build a scale model of the WTC, soak it with jet fuel and set it on fire, and see what happens..". Adam responded "you know, that one has been on our list".

Not that I'm going to stop watching Mythbusters. Hollywood special effects people, living and working in San Francisco, it is a foregone conclusion that almost everyone affiliated with the show is a liberal of some stripe. I think they do a pretty good job of keeping their ideologies out of the show, so no need for a boycott in my opinion.

Mythbusters work is way above the chicken wire level, so if they do a 9/11 show, they probably will show how it was done with aircraft.
Although they don't get everything right.
There was one experiment they left out of their Hindenburg show, and they never quite explained why their compressed air boat worked worse when the exhaust was underwater (back pressure) or the longer barrel on their steam cannon didn't work as well as the shorter one (condensation)

I can elaborate on these, but the problems were pretty obvious to me.

169 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:12:24am
“well read” and has “done a lot of research.”

As long as he's passionate and shows contrition for any tax missteps along the way, he just might get a gig on the White House staff yet.

170 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:12:32am

re: #158 Thanos

What's most ridiculous is that all the troofers are ignoring KSM's rants and confessions in the Gitmo trials.

///Like dude, the CIA like brainwashed him to like say that shit by like waterboarding him and shit. Here... bong hit?

171 Obsidiandog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:20:04am

Sunjata plays Franco who thinks only with his little head, so it is quite possible he will be ridiculed by the other characters. They play NYFD guys after all. Hopefully they are just humoring one of their main characters but he's still a tool.

172 TheAntichrist  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:24:03am

A while back a 9/11 truther started a site called "Firefighters for 9/11 Truth", it got posted on a skeptic board and a lot of jokesters signed their petition with fake names and joking comments. But guess who signed the petition under his real name and real comments? Daniel Sunjata! Signer #257: Image: ff4911truth02.jpg

173 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:24:41am
174 RexMundi  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:25:06am

re: #167 locutus


Not that I'm going to stop watching Mythbusters. Hollywood special effects people, living and working in San Francisco, it is a foregone conclusion that almost everyone affiliated with the show is a liberal of some stripe. I think they do a pretty good job of keeping their ideologies out of the show, so no need for a boycott in my opinion.

Whether Savage is left or not is somewhat irrelevant in this instance I think. I would be willing to bet huge sums of cash that Savage is not a 9/11 truther in any way shape or form. Note how Mythbusters went after the Moon Landing hoaxers just a little while ago, and also note how Savage has been a speaker at The Amaz!ng Meeting a few times. TAM, for those that are unaware of it, is held by the James Randi Educational Foundation--a group of skeptics that have worked very dilligently to counter crazy truther claims.

175 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:31:25am

Rescue Me sucks anyway.

176 Obsidiandog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:33:05am

re: #47 JammieWearingFool

Here's a photo of him proudly showing his insanity.

Hey, he got the cool T-shirt so he doesn't want to be embarassed by not being able to talk the talk...shows he's a deep-thinking intalekchul.
//

177 foxtrotter  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:35:08am

What a disappointment. The first couple seasons of Rescue Me were excellent. The last two were only okay, but I still watched it, wondering if they were going to get the plot back. Now I won't be watching the new season. I will have to send a short note to FX to let them know they've lost another viewer.

And as stated above, Sunjata is a terrible actor. Franco's always been the weak link in the main characters, delivering every line in the same monotone, and bathroom breaks were a popular activity during scenes where they focused on his storyline outside the firehouse. Of course, Susan Sarandon was in his storyline as well, so that was another reason to go get a drink or change the channel for a minute.

178 VioletTiger  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:42:09am

STUPIDITY...there's just no end to it.

179 horse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:47:50am

If FX shows that idiocy, they will be dead to me, blacked out and never to be watched again. The Shield is over anyway, not much else of value there nowadays. Rescue Me jumped the shark way, way back; I am amazed it is still running.

180 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 10:52:50am

Another reason why I avoid entertainment TV.

Not that I really, really, really needed another reason.

181 dm60462  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 11:13:53am

I'm not suprised. He's a product of Mt Carmel H.S. in Chicago (as is Donovan "I didn't know NFL games could end in a tie" McNabb). Not very high academic requirements at that school.

182 Occasional Reader  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 11:53:23am

Before I look for it; has anyone found contact info for F/X yet?

This IS the kind of thing that a bottom-line-oriented company can be pushed to change, folks. The threat of a vocal consumer boycott of "Rescue Me" advertisers will get attention.

This is disgusting, and we should not let it pass. Or next time they'll have a "passionate" Holocaust-denier featured on an episode.

183 eaglewingz08  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 11:53:30am

What a moonbat actor. I believe he was in that gay baseball off broadway play, Take Me Out, where he played a gay pitcher (make your own jokes). Seems like he's been on a slide since then.

184 Rexatosis  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 11:56:27am

This is the kind of garbage that the "utes"* of America buy into because they are too damn lazy to read anything that isn't a damn text message. I will end up spending time in my classes giving my students a list of sources for them to look at after one of the brain-dead twits in the back of the class brings this garbage up after seeing this crap on TV. It is hard enough trying to get this generation of attention-deficit aliterate yahoos to think without having to deal with the constant flow of mind-numbing, politically correct, alternative-reality, conspiracy theory ladened popular culture offal spewed forth by the TV, Movie, Music Industries.

* Gotta love Fred Gwynn in "My Cousin Vinny"

185 Occasional Reader  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:33:39pm

From the F/X Network home page, here is their contact email:

user@fxnetworks.com

Let them know how you feel. Be firm, but polite.

(Charles, I assume this does not violate your "no e-mail addresses" rule, since it is the publicly-promoted address for a corporation, not a personal address.)

186 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:47:43pm

I've run into many people, as an activist, who also claim to be "well read" on issues pertaining to Israel, "Palestine" and the like. Most of the time, I find myself listening to half-truths, outright lies and distortions of reality. I suspect that's what's going on here - someone with an idealogical mind-set who reads what already reinforces his beliefs without much, if any, critical analysis. It's easy to espouse theories of conspiracy but what puts such to the test is the comparison to actual fact, not wishful thinking.

187 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:50:55pm

As a Fire/Medic I laugh at this show. It's got more BS stuff I've ever seen when it comes to how we do our jobs. If we did half the crap they show on TV, we would either be dead or fired by our Chief!

188 fredo malmstein  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:52:09pm

Lest you forget, this is a show whose creator, Denis Leary, just wrote a book that calls autistic children "lazy".

And this guy is also a "friend" to NYC firefighters. Fucking Judas.

189 Dustoff-507  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 12:56:15pm

re: #188 fredo malmstein

Lest you forget, this is a show whose creator, Denis Leary, just wrote a book that calls autistic children "lazy".

And this guy is also a "friend" to NYC firefighters. Fucking Judas.

O-brother. I went to school to learn how to work with these kids. Leary knows crap. It's hell not only for the kids but the parents too.

I can tell he's never been around these kids.

190 Aye Pod  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:22:45pm

I think I've found the inspiration for this idiotic storyline -

191 NR Pax  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:38:35pm

re: #83 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Anything for ratings! this will really hit the marginal moron demographic sweet spot!

You mean Truthers pay for cable and watch the show? I thought they would be too scared about the CIA watching their every move through electronic devices.

192 Cosmo  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 1:53:37pm

Passionate.

History is replete with useful, passionate idiots.

Put this fool on the heap with the rest of them.

193 Dad O' Blondes  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:30pm

Yep.

I guess those 9/11 funeral services I attended were an inside job, too.

And you know, they'd really have me fooled -- except the widows are still widows and the kids' fathers are still dead.

Funny how that works.

Actually -- not funny at all.

.

194 SteveBrandon  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 11:29:03pm
but the second episode of “Rescue Me’s” fifth season, starting in April, may represent the first fictional presentation of 9/11 conspiracy theories by a mainstream media company (FX is operated by the News Corporation).

What about the South Park episode with the "Hardly Boys" investigating the "Mystery of the Twin Towers"?

195 AreaMan  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 7:45:30am

Actually, the best way to control Iraqi oil would have been to invade and just capture the oil fields. Let Saddam stew in Baghdad, in utter poverty. It might have been a better way to disarm Iraq, also. Installing democracy was idealistic but expensive.

Conquering Iran's oil fields would be even easier, they're all along the coast. It would have the nice side effect of defunding their efforts in the nuclear and ICBM area.

No need to fool around with airplanes and towers.

196 Øyvind Strømmen  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 7:46:39am

Actually, I think conspiracy theories can make for decent entertainment. Look at Dan Brown.

And that's about the only thing this crap is useful for.


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