Video: Mac vs. PC

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Video • Mon Feb 2, 2009 at 3:35 pm PST • Views: 172

Great effects and funny bits in this video from Nick Greenlee.

(Hat tip: LGF readers.)

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1 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:36:56pm

Am I wrong to say that the blonde is hot?

2 bellamags  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:36:59pm

this is great

3 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:37:57pm

And, as always, everything is better in slo-mo.

4 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:39:54pm

That scared the snot out of me.

5 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:40:27pm

re: #1 Wyatt Earp

Am I wrong to say that the blonde is hot?

That was my first and last thought. Nice rack to

6 winston06  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:40:54pm

Mac is attractive but still expensive!

7 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:41:10pm

Knocked his balls off!

8 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:41:11pm

re: #5 Nevergiveup

That was my first and last thought. Nice rack to

The fight scenes are great, but let's be honest: Blondes trump all of that.

9 CSKapper  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:41:28pm

That was freaking awesome!

10 coquimbojoe  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:41:53pm

re: #1 Wyatt Earp

Yes. Yes you are.

11 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:42:18pm

re: #5 Nevergiveup

re: #1 Wyatt Earp

Am I wrong to say that the blonde is hot?

That was my first and last thought. Nice rack to

now you guys got me wondering what I'm missing. Blocked here at work...

12 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:42:31pm

Your face gets viruses.

13 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:42:32pm

re: #10 coquimbojoe

Yes. Yes you are.

You don't think she's hot, or I shouldn't have said it?

14 coquimbojoe  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:42:40pm

that was pretty cool. Somebody was better at graphics than dialog though.

15 coquimbojoe  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:43:06pm

re: #13 Wyatt Earp

You don't think she's hot, or I shouldn't have said it?

I don't think she was hot.

16 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:43:24pm

re: #4 MandyManners

That scared the snot out of me.

Gesundheit.

17 mean Gene  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:43:42pm

That's very cool.
It made me want to see that weird future tale about ''Google-con'' taking over the world again, but I can't find it anywhere anymore.

18 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:43:43pm

Now, that was weird.

19 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:44:06pm

re: #12 Charles

Your face gets viruses.

Huh?

20 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:44:18pm

Those thowing apples were great. Very inventive.

21 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:44:35pm

re: #15 coquimbojoe

I don't think she was hot.

Eh, I dig her. What can I say?

22 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:45:28pm
23 coquimbojoe  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:46:32pm

re: #21 Wyatt Earp

Eh, I dig her. What can I say?

More power to you. I liked the robots.

24 coquimbojoe  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:47:04pm

re: #22 buzzsawmonkey

I have here a piece of software that guarantees PC in our time...

How long have you waited to say that?

25 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:47:08pm

re: #23 coquimbojoe

More power to you. I liked the robots.

Hum?

26 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:47:28pm

re: #19 LGoPs

Huh?

Quote from the vid.

27 coquimbojoe  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:47:35pm

re: #25 Nevergiveup

Hum?

Its a thing, what can I say?

28 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:48:05pm
29 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:49:03pm

re: #26 Charles

OK. I'l have to see it at home tonight...thanks

30 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:49:34pm

re: #27 coquimbojoe

Its a thing, what can I say?

Well now that I think about it, it seems I've got this laptop on my lap more than...well you get the point.

31 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:49:40pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Knocked his balls off!

I LOLed!

32 abolitionist  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:50:13pm

Someone once said of dealing with Gates, It's like a knife fight.
Ok, maybe more than once.

33 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:52:32pm

re: #31 goddessoftheclassroom

I LOLed!

*GASP*!

34 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:52:44pm

Speaking of graphics...Please don't hate me...

35 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:53:06pm

re: #33 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*GASP*!

Well, I admire cleverness!

36 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:53:08pm

Mac will never take over the world. Windows is a Zionist plot.

37 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:53:46pm

re: #34 goddessoftheclassroom

Speaking of graphics...Please don't hate me...

It's a photoshop. That is really Hillary.

38 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:54:11pm

Grime...filth...mildew...earth...soil...silt...ground...

39 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:54:26pm

how can you take these links out of the thread and save them...is it possible?

40 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:54:43pm
41 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:54:53pm

re: #35 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, I admire cleverness!

THIS IS NOT THE NICE GIRL I KNEW!

/previously used, but appropriate

42 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:55:07pm

re: #34 goddessoftheclassroom

Speaking of graphics...Please don't hate me...

I never thought I'd say this, but I may have to downding you!

/nahhh

43 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:55:09pm

re: #36 Alouette

Mac will never take over the world. Windows is a Zionist plot.

I would agree, but I haven't gotten my Zionist paycheck yet, so I won't.
//

44 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:55:37pm

re: #28 buzzsawmonkey

Easily 5 seconds.

heh...losing your touch?

45 Jimmah  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:55:44pm

That was well done. Robots are easier to work with than people and animals, from an animator's perspective (no pesky deformable crotch area to struggle with for one thing).

46 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:55:50pm

re: #34 goddessoftheclassroom

Speaking of graphics...Please don't hate me...

I'm not going to believe that is real. If Rosie can refuse to believe certain pieces of reality, I can too.

/Never mind that I know the image source, and believe that Dana Delany naked trumps Rosie in fetish gear.

47 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:56:11pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Knocked his balls off!

They looked brass

48 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:56:20pm

re: #34 goddessoftheclassroom

Speaking of graphics...Please don't hate me...

My eyes burn...they burnnn...

49 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:57:14pm

re: #46 CyanSnowHawk

I'm not going to believe that is real. If Rosie can refuse to believe certain pieces of reality, I can too.

/Never mind that I know the image source, and believe that Dana Delany naked trumps Rosie in fetish gear.

Dana Delany is still awesome!

50 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:57:40pm

re: #45 Jimmah

That was well done. Robots are easier to work with than people and animals, from an animator's perspective (no pesky deformable crotch area to struggle with for one thing).

animation?...oh man...I thought...

51 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:57:44pm

Oil terminal sits in harm's way
SECRECY: Citing homeland security, officials give out little information about the plant's status.

[Link: www.adn.com...]

Good place to locate an oil terminal ha?

52 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:58:08pm

re: #42 Bloodnok

I never thought I'd say this, but I may have to downding you!

/nahhh

Seriously

It'd be nice to have a sort of selectable down-ding available, to use where we want to down-ding the content of a link, or a quote, but don't want the down-ding to count against the person who posted it.

53 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:59:27pm

re: #48 LGoPs

My eyes burn...they burnnn...

And that;'s before the bleach!

54 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 3:59:33pm

re: #34 goddessoftheclassroom

Speaking of graphics...Please don't hate me...

May the flees of a thousand camels lay in your bed tonight.

55 Scion9  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:00:59pm
56 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:01:28pm

re: #52 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Seriously

It'd be nice to have a sort of selectable down-ding available, to use where we want to down-ding the content of a link, or a quote, but don't want the down-ding to count against the person who posted it.

You are SO sweet!

MWAH!

I posted it ONLY because of the caption: "MINDBLEACH. Because sometimes you really wish you hadn't seen something." I thought it sounded as though it had been created by a Lizard!

57 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:01:31pm

re: #54 BBev

May the flees of a thousand camels lay in your bed tonight.

up your nose with a rubber hose...

58 Kragar  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:01:35pm

re: #34 goddessoftheclassroom

Speaking of graphics...Please don't hate me...

THE GOGGLES! THEY DO NOTHING! *GAK*

/Zim voice

59 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:02:15pm

re: #54 BBev

May the flees of a thousand camels lay in your bed tonight.

I'll clean 'em up with that mindbleach...

60 Killian Bundy  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:02:50pm

Groundhog bites NYC mayor on his big day

Everyone knows what it means when a groundhog sees his shadow. But what does the future hold if he bites the mayor's hand?

Staten Island's famous groundhog, Charles G. Hogg, inexplicably bit Mayor Michael Bloomberg during his annual holiday ceremony on Monday, drawing blood from the billionaire.

/hmmm, the article doesn't say whether Bloomberg saw his shadow or not

61 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:04:41pm

re: #60 Killian Bundy

Groundhog bites NYC mayor on his big day


/hmmm, the article doesn't say whether Bloomberg saw his shadow or not

Buy that hog a steak...or whatever groundhogs like.

62 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:05:02pm

re: #59 goddessoftheclassroom

I'll clean 'em up with that mindbleach...

You know it's not the pic so much. it is who she is that makes me sick :-)

63 Nevergiveup  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:05:47pm

re: #60 Killian Bundy

Groundhog bites NYC mayor on his big day

/hmmm, the article doesn't say whether Bloomberg saw his shadow or not

Bloomberg's shadow is wintering in Miami.

64 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:06:54pm

I like some of the Republican ideas for tweaking the stimulus bill.

As long as they don't spend even more.

65 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:07:09pm

re: #62 BBev

You know it's not the pic so much. it is who she is that makes me sick :-)

Kind of makes you not want to wear leather ever again.

66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:07:58pm

re: #59 goddessoftheclassroom

Congrats on the Superbowl win last night.

67 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:08:05pm

taking on pirates with 2x4s...yup

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

68 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:08:27pm
69 debutaunt  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:08:32pm

re: #61 Soona'

Buy that hog a steak...or whatever groundhogs like.

They are fond of one bite out of every ear of corn in your stupid garden.

70 Jimmah  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:08:38pm

re: #34 goddessoftheclassroom

Speaking of graphics...Please don't hate me...

Ugh! Some double strength 'Mindbleach' at the ready:

Alex Gaudino featuting Crystal Waters - Destination Calabria

71 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:09:08pm

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Congrats on the Superbowl win last night.

She told us to tell you she left a message for you at #34.

72 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:09:11pm

pwnage.exe!

ROFL!

73 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:09:12pm

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Congrats on the Superbowl win last night.

I had no idea she plays for the Steelers...thta's awsome!

74 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:09:34pm

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Congrats on the Superbowl win last night.

Thank you! I couldn't bear to watch--I get SO tense!

75 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:10:12pm

re: #73 albusteve

I had no idea she plays for the Steelers...thta's awsome!

LOL!

76 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:10:26pm

Well that was, um, funny.

/I so didn't get it. Hides head in shame.

77 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:10:30pm

re: #69 debutaunt

They are fond of one bite out of every ear of corn in your stupid garden.

Then put that hog in debutaunt's garden.
//

78 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:10:45pm

re: #65 Soona'

Kind of makes you not want to wear leather ever again.

Maybe this will help OK for work, I think

79 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:10:54pm

Wow, he did a great job on that. His site is slow top load but he has some very cool stuff.

80 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:11:16pm

re: #34 goddessoftheclassroom

Speaking of graphics...Please don't hate me...

This is the only thing I'd like to see Rosie in... in...[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

81 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:11:41pm

re: #36 Alouette

Mac will never take over the world. Windows is a Zionist plot.

Windows Version 8.0 Codenamed "Zion" that only runs on the Intel Honco processor?

82 Stonemason  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:11:59pm

What I took from that was that it took a room full of MAC's to equal one PC.

83 Bobblehead  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:12:41pm

Movie Alert..
It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World is on TCM tonight 9:30 EST

84 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:13:21pm

re: #83 Bobblehead

Movie Alert..
It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World is on TCM tonight 9:30 EST

Ethel!...

85 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:13:55pm

re: #83 Bobblehead

Movie Alert..
It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World is on TCM tonight 9:30 EST

Is anyone famous in it?

//

86 mattm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:14:28pm

re: #34 goddessoftheclassroom

Speaking of graphics...Please don't hate me...

Annd now I want to barf. You want to give someone nightmares, show them that.

87 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:14:59pm

re: #78 BBev

Maybe this will help OK for work, I think

Nice. Except the girl on the right has a hell of an overbite.
//

88 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:15:17pm

re: #74 goddessoftheclassroom

Thank you! I couldn't bear to watch--I get SO tense!

It was a great game..The party was great..
Congrad's Goddess

89 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:15:46pm
90 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:15:49pm

re: #86 mattm

Annd now I want to barf. You want to give someone nightmares, show them that.

Wyatt Earp will find her sexy no doubt...poor guy

91 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:16:25pm

re: #87 Soona'

Nice. Except the girl on the right has a hell of an overbite.
//

OK then keep looking at this Rosie

92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:16:54pm

re: #71 Bloodnok

She told us to tell you she left a message for you at #34.

You just became my enemy. I can be pacified with cake.

93 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:17:06pm

re: #89 buzzsawmonkey

For your viewing pleather.

BRICK!

94 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:17:24pm

re: #91 BBev

OK then keep looking at this Rosie

AHHH! Stop doing that...

95 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:17:54pm

re: #85 Bloodnok

Is anyone famous in it?

//

It's one of those "all-star" all star casts. Kind of like "Towering Inferno", only a tad more entertaining.

96 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:17:58pm

Huh! New-fangled stuff!

I'm running an Atari 400 with a 48 kilobyte RAM upgrade. Works fine on LGF, but some of the graphics-intensive web sites cause problems.

/should I add a sarc? ... naw ... I wanna find some sucker to unload this bridge onto.

97 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:18:02pm

George Wallace
(Two-Disc Special Edition) (2008)
Starring: Gary Sinise

The Aristotelian tragic protagonist is not an entirely bad man, but he has a fatal flaw. Wallace's flaw was not (originally) racism. It was lust for power and status, a lust so all-consuming that it turned Wallace into a fellow traveler with racists, and made of him one of the most destructive and most hated American politicians of his time. Sinise, who seems doomed to be underrated for his acting talents, captures memorably both the corruption and the belated search for redemption. Frankenheimer shows off all his skill with a story line, working through a series of flashbacks from the 1972 assassination attempt and weaving together real and constructed black-and-white footage. The pace does stumble; in the end, the movie is half an hour too long. But you get sucked in by the period feel, the accents as thick as grits, and the many excellent supporting performances. Especially notable are Mare Winningham as Wallace's long-suffering first wife, Clarence Williams as his servant Archie (a somewhat questionable fictionalization by Frankenheimer), and Joe Don Baker as his mentor and predecessor in the governor's mansion, Big Jim Folsom. Frankenheimer, Sinise, and Winningham all won Emmys for their work, and the film won the Golden Globe for Best Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for TV.

I haven't seen it but have heard good things about it. It doesn't white wash Wallace, but fills out the history of the man accurately as possible.

Posted in Spin off also.

98 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:18:04pm

re: #94 LGoPs

AHHH! Stop doing that...

Hey I warned you!

99 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:18:13pm

re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You just became my enemy. I can be pacified with cake.

All the cake in the world won't cure that veggie!

100 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:18:29pm

re: #88 HoosierHoops

It was a great game..The party was great..
Congrad's Goddess

no condolences?...I rooted for the Cardinals

101 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:18:33pm

re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You just became my enemy. I can be pacified with cake.


Will this do?

102 mattm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:18:46pm

re: #67 albusteve

taking on pirates with 2x4s...yup

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Don't they make guns for that? What pathetic pirate is bothered by a 2x4?

103 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:19:58pm

re: #98 BBev

Hey I warned you!

I know, I know...I'm just one of those compulsive link clickers...
Sheesh.

104 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:20:07pm

re: #102 mattm

Don't they make guns for that? What pathetic pirate is bothered by a 2x4?

I dunno...might have been a full auto 2x4

105 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:20:43pm

re: #91 BBev

OK then keep looking at this Rosie

Okay! Okay! Your leather girls are BEAUTIFUL! Just please don't do that to me again. :)

106 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:20:53pm

re: #100 albusteve

no condolences?...I rooted for the Cardinals

They played a GREAT game--worthy adversaries, indeed! And Warner is cuter than Roethlisberger!

107 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:21:03pm

re: #101 Bloodnok


Will this do?

That's Pi. Everone knows Pi R square. Cake R round...or something like that...
:)

108 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:22:20pm

I've seen Hillary in leather bustiers.

109 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:22:37pm

re: #1 Wyatt Earp

Am I wrong to say that the blonde is hot?

Yes, just not very PC perhaps...

110 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:22:42pm

re: #96 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Huh! New-fangled stuff!

I'm running an Atari 400 with a 48 kilobyte RAM upgrade. Works fine on LGF, but some of the graphics-intensive web sites cause problems.

/should I add a sarc? ... naw ... I wanna find some sucker to unload this bridge onto.

You can easily run LGF on a Sinclair with the 4kb upgrade...The TRS 80's run it well also...I use the tape cassette backup so I don't have to rewrite the browser in Basic everytime I boot up. I'm running thicknet on the network backbone...

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:23:37pm

re: #101 Bloodnok

And... Forgiven.

112 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:24:04pm

re: #108 godfrey

I've seen Hillary in leather bustiers.

No pictures, please!

113 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:24:07pm

re: #108 godfrey

I've seen Hillary in leather bustiers.

Thanks. You succeeded in bleaching Rosie's image out of my head and now its been replaced by one that's worse. I'm going to send you my shrink's bill...

114 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:24:23pm

re: #108 godfrey

I've seen Hillary in leather bustiers.

What were you ingesting at the time?

115 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:24:25pm

Cool vid.

Official word? The girl's cute, has a nice rack, but can't act.

116 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:25:04pm

re: #107 LGoPs

That's Pi. Everone knows Pi R square. Cake R round...or something like that...
:)

Here's a cake for him.

117 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:25:18pm

re: #101 Bloodnok


Will this do?


this might...we'll see...

Image: post_largest_cake_01_front.jpg

118 Truck Monkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:25:38pm

re: #108 godfrey

I've seen Hillary in leather bustiers.

When did that happen and why?

119 Cathypop  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:25:39pm

re: #108 godfrey

I've seen Hillary in leather bustiers.


And you are blind. Yes?

120 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:26:00pm

re: #116 Bloodnok

Here's a cake for him.

LOL...that's good...
:)

121 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:26:14pm

re: #115 Noam Sayin'

Cool vid.

Official word? The girl's cute, has a nice rack, but can't act.

Who cares? She's got bots. ;)

122 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:26:36pm

re: #106 goddessoftheclassroom

They played a GREAT game--worthy adversaries, indeed! And Warner is cuter than Roethlisberger!

they did and btw...I hate the Steelers with a passion...
jus sayin

123 gregg  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:26:37pm

Not exactly Mac vs. PC, but Google Street View vs. baby deer:

Tragedy has struck though. In upstate New York, a street view car hit a baby deer on Five Points Road - and then recorded the whole thing on Google Maps. Nobody noticed until, well, someone noticed, prompting a Daily What blog post, floods of traffic, and then a sequence of five street-level pictures being removed from the site.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Via sda

124 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:27:04pm

re: #113 LGoPs

Washington is heaven for kinks. Those people have issues.

125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:27:44pm

re: #117 albusteve

this might...we'll see...

[Link: i227.photobucket.com...]

That is beautiful. I've got a tear.

126 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:28:03pm

re: #100 albusteve

no condolences?...I rooted for the Cardinals

The party was pretty much split 50/50 to root for.. I was rooting for Cards..
during half time we all pretty much preped for what was coming..Total blow-out.. It turned into a great game..Maybe top ten or better of all time..
I normally don't agree with Skip Bayless on football ( although I can never put down his books).. Kurt Warner in a loss in the Super Bowl..just earned himself a place in the Hall of Fame..

127 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:28:38pm

re: #125 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That is beautiful. I've got a tear.

dig in!...see ya in 14yrs...

128 Dainn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:28:52pm

Verry funny.

run C:/pwnage.exe

129 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:29:18pm

BRB, gonna go clean up the dinner mess.

130 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:29:43pm

re: #122 albusteve

they did and btw...I hate the Steelers with a passion...
jus sayin

I used to, when I was a kid in Baltimore and we had the Colts.

131 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:31:19pm

re: #126 HoosierHoops

The party was pretty much split 50/50 to root for.. I was rooting for Cards..
during half time we all pretty much preped for what was coming..Total blow-out.. It turned into a great game..Maybe top ten or better of all time..
I normally don't agree with Skip Bayless on football ( although I can never put down his books).. Kurt Warner in a loss in the Super Bowl..just earned himself a place in the Hall of Fame..

I won 400$...woohoo!...I really wanted the Cards to win as you know...a coupla plays made all the difference and indeed it was one for the books...Warner is the real deal

132 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:32:03pm

re: #130 goddessoftheclassroom

I used to, when I was a kid in Baltimore and we had the Colts.

Didn't have a dog in this hunt. I have two favorite teams: Da Bears and whoever is playing the Dullass Cowpies.

133 Racer X  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:32:11pm
134 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:32:38pm

re: #102 mattm

Don't they make guns for that? What pathetic pirate is bothered by a 2x4?

Emily Rizzo, a student at the Massachusetts Maritime Academy in Buzzards Bay, Mass., worked aboard a 760-foot cargo ship last year as part of her training. As the vessel sailed the Malacca Straits in Southeast Asia, she served on "pirate watches," learned to use hoses and took part in drills with alarms indicating the ship had been boarded.

She should try something more like this AK-630 30mm Gatling

135 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:32:40pm

re: #123 gregg

Not exactly Mac vs. PC, but Google Street View vs. baby deer:

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Via sda



...if you do hit a deer, don't try to touch it. Just so you know.

Waste not want not. It’s roadkill.

136 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:32:48pm

re: #126 HoosierHoops

The party was pretty much split 50/50 to root for.. I was rooting for Cards..
during half time we all pretty much preped for what was coming..Total blow-out.. It turned into a great game..Maybe top ten or better of all time..
I normally don't agree with Skip Bayless on football ( although I can never put down his books).. Kurt Warner in a loss in the Super Bowl..just earned himself a place in the Hall of Fame..

Barring any drastic changes in personnel for the Cards, they'll be back at the super bowl next year. They'll probably become the comeback replacement to the Buffalo Bills.
/getting ready to run.

137 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:33:14pm

re: #132 USBeast

Didn't have a dog in this hunt. I have two favorite teams: Da Bears and whoever is playing the Dullass Cowpies.

HEY!...trashmouth

138 Cathypop  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:33:24pm

re: #133 Racer X

Unicorns really freak me out.


That is the unicorn I was promised!

139 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:33:30pm

re: #133 Racer X

Unicorns really freak me out.

That horny horse looks vampiric.

140 Truck Monkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:33:38pm

re: #130 goddessoftheclassroom

I used to, when I was a kid in Baltimore and we had the Colts.

The Colts still belong to Baltimore IMHO. Just like the Rams belong to LA and the Cardinals to St Louis and the Ravens to Cleveland. I do like how the city of Cleveland came together to save the "Browns" team name from going to Baltimore. I just wish that Baltimore would have done the same to Bob Irsay when he split the scene in Baltimore.

141 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:33:45pm

re: #132 USBeast

Didn't have a dog in this hunt. I have two favorite teams: Da Bears and whoever is playing the Dullass Cowpies.

And Da Bears are currently undefeated...and will remain so, in my humble estimation, for at least the next 7 months...
:)

142 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:34:05pm

Am re-posting this from the previous thread:

Hold on to your nuggets. This email was forwarded by my lib friend from Obama. He's on their mailing list 'cause he donated. Very, very scary stuff.

From: President Barack Obama [mailto:XXX@barackobama.com]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:48 AM
To: XXX
Subject: What recovery means for you

XXX

The economic crisis is growing more serious every day, and the time for action has come.

Last week, the House of Representatives passed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which will jumpstart our economy and put more than 3 million people back to work.

I hope to sign the recovery plan into law in the next few weeks. But I need your help to spread the word and build support.

It’s not enough for this bill to simply pass Congress. Americans need to know how it will affect their lives — they need to know that help is on the way and that this administration is investing in economic growth and stability.

Governor Tim Kaine has agreed to record a video outlining the recovery plan and answering questions about what it means for your community. You can submit your questions online and then invite your friends, family, and neighbors to watch the video with you at an Economic Recovery House Meeting.

Join thousands of people across the country by hosting or attending an Economic Recovery House Meeting this weekend.

The stakes are too high to allow partisan politics to get in the way.

That’s why I’ve consulted with Republicans as well as Democrats to put together a plan that will address the crisis we face.

I’ve also taken steps to ensure an unprecedented level of transparency and accountability. Once it’s passed, you will be able to see how every penny in this plan is being spent.

You can help restore confidence in our economy by making sure your friends, family, and neighbors understand how the recovery plan will impact your community.

Sign up to host or attend an Economic Recovery House Meeting and submit your question for the video now:

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

Our ability to come together as a nation in difficult times has never been more important.

I know I can rely on your spirit and resolve as we lead our country to recovery.

Thank you,

President Barack Obama

P.S. — If you can’t host or attend an Economic Recovery House Meeting, you can still submit your questions for Governor Kaine and then share the video with your friends and family this weekend. Learn more here:

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

143 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:34:28pm

re: #137 albusteve

HEY!...trashmouth

I've got my reasons.

144 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:34:44pm

re: #103 LGoPs

I know, I know...I'm just one of those compulsive link clickers...
Sheesh.

I am too, I have been to web site that I would never have thought of going to if it was not for LGF for good or bad

145 Bob Dillon  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:35:22pm

re: #6 winston06

Mac is attractive but still expensive!

Compared to what?

146 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:35:22pm

re: #140 Truck Monkey

The Colts still belong to Baltimore IMHO. Just like the Rams belong to LA and the Cardinals to St Louis and the Ravens to Cleveland. I do like how the city of Cleveland came together to save the "Browns" team name from going to Baltimore. I just wish that Baltimore would have done the same to Bob Irsay when he split the scene in Baltimore.

AMEN!

147 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:35:30pm

re: #142 rightymouse

Surprised they are not having slumber parties for the event ...friggin cult ...

148 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:35:38pm

Sorry upding iPhone touchscreen tiny got that?

149 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:35:41pm

re: #142 rightymouse

Welcome to The Perpetual Campaign™.

150 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:36:40pm

re: #136 Soona'

Barring any drastic changes in personnel for the Cards, they'll be back at the super bowl next year. They'll probably become the comeback replacement to the Buffalo Bills.
/getting ready to run.

Sorry It was a magical run..But there are a least 5 major issues with that team..Inc. the Edge issue ect. It will be awhile before they return..But what a wonderful magical year you had in the play-offs! It's so much fun as a fan to see your local team just kick butt...
Congrad's!

151 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:37:09pm

re: #140 Truck Monkey

The Colts still belong to Baltimore IMHO. Just like the Rams belong to LA and the Cardinals to St Louis and the Ravens to Cleveland. I do like how the city of Cleveland came together to save the "Browns" team name from going to Baltimore. I just wish that Baltimore would have done the same to Bob Irsay when he split the scene in Baltimore.

the 'Browns' belong to the city...it was a contingency for another franchise in Balti...thank Paul Tagliabu for that...that's how highly respected Paul Brown is in the anals of NFL lore

152 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:37:18pm

re: #142 rightymouse

Rally to the colors, morons!

/Red colors, of course.

153 Truck Monkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:38:23pm

re: #146 goddessoftheclassroom

AMEN!

Baltimore is now, and has always been a Football town. When Irsay stole the Colts like that he tore an identity away from a whole city.

154 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:38:32pm

re: #147 JacksonTn

Surprised they are not having slumber parties for the event ...friggin cult ...

This is very scary stuff for me because I understand how communism roots itself and how it is implemented among the naive.

155 Cato the Elder  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:38:57pm

re: #89 buzzsawmonkey

Hey, Buzz, did you see my last reply over on the other thread? It's here:

#956 Cato the Elder

156 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:39:01pm

re: #151 albusteve

the 'Browns' belong to the city...it was a contingency for another franchise in Balti...thank Paul Tagliabu for that...that's how highly respected Paul Brown is in the anals of NFL lore

I think you mean "annals". Jerry Jones belongs in the "anals".

157 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:39:18pm

{rightymouse}

I'm a Linux guy too, so I mostly feel bemused.

158 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:39:21pm

re: #149 Fat Jolly Penguin

Welcome to The Perpetual Campaign™.

Or 'The Great Leap Forward'.

159 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:39:25pm

re: #106 goddessoftheclassroom

They played a GREAT game--worthy adversaries, indeed! And Warner is cuter than Roethlisberger!

That was by far the best superbowl I've ever seen.
I hope it doesn't keep Kurt Warner out of the Hall of Fame.

My ideal football score is 4-2 (three safeties, total).
You rarely see one safety, and I've never seen one in a Superbowl.

160 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:39:37pm

re: #154 rightymouse

This is very scary stuff for me because I understand how communism roots itself and how it is implemented among the naive.

They are riding the socialist train into American on the back of white liberal guilt ...no doubt about it ...

161 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:40:00pm

re: #43 Soona'

I would agree, but I haven't gotten my Zionist paycheck yet, so I won't.
//

Did you submit your time ticket itemizing projects? Zionist checks ain't free, you have to do actual work for the World Zionist Conspiracy.

162 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:40:16pm

re: #159 jwb7605

That was by far the best superbowl I've ever seen.
I hope it doesn't keep Kurt Warner out of the Hall of Fame.

My ideal football score is 4-2 (three safeties, total).
You rarely see one safety, and I've never seen one in a Superbowl.

I think Warner was in the Hall before last night. He has nothing to worry about.

163 godfrey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:40:33pm

re: #158 rightymouse

'The Great Lurch Left'

164 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:41:16pm

re: #156 USBeast

I think you mean "annals". Jerry Jones belongs in the "anals".

your right and thanks for the JJ slap!...what a loser eh?...almost drove the entire league into bankrupcy

165 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:41:32pm

re: #163 godfrey

'The Great Lurch Left'

Did he? He will be sorely missed.

166 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:41:38pm

Folks - I have run some depressing numbers. See for yourself and pas it around.

How big is the Obama Stimulus Package?

About $870 billion.

But it is hard for us to internalize what that number means. How big is $870 billion?

Well it turns out that the Sun, measured across (diameter) is 870 million miles.

How big is that? Well if you hollowed the Sun out, you could fit 1 million Earth sized planets in it.

So think of 870 million miles for a minute. That is 1/1000th of 870 billion. Try to imagine placing 1,000 Suns (each holding 1 million Earths) on a string like a pearl necklace. Now imagine the length of that string. 1 mile to the length of that "necklace" would compare to just $1 to the size of the Obama Stimulus Package.

But a mile itself is big. We could just as easily split that mile into one thousand parts and compare that to the size of just one Sun (the thing that could fit 1 million Earths in it). Well if you divide a mile into 1,000 equal parts, you get a little over 5 feet 3 inches for each part.

It turns out that is the average height of a 14 year old American male. Take 870 billion of them, place them end to end and you have the width of the Sun. That would be over 100 times the current population of Earth. So take a single 14 year old American boy and compare him to 100 times the world population and that is the same as $1 to the Obama Stimulus Package.

But 100 times the world's population is hard to imagine in real terms. So let's divide the length of that 14 year old by 100. You get a distance of 0.63 inches. That is a little more that 5/8s of an inch. So what is something that you commonly find that measures 5/8s of an inch? The width of a garden hose.

So take an end to end stack of 14 year old boys, one for every person on Earth and hand one (just one) a section of garden hose. The width of that section of garden hose compares to the length of that stack of boys as $1 does to the Obama Stimulus Plan.

Now is it really fair to compare a garden hose to a group of 14 year olds as big as the planet's population? Well it is when you consider that 14 year olds are the one's who will have to end up paying for the Obama Stimulus Plan. And we are hosing them if we pass this insanely large spending plan.

Yes - it is THAT BIG.

167 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:42:50pm

re: #140 Truck Monkey

The Colts still belong to Baltimore IMHO. Just like the Rams belong to LA and the Cardinals to St Louis and the Ravens to Cleveland. I do like how the city of Cleveland came together to save the "Browns" team name from going to Baltimore. I just wish that Baltimore would have done the same to Bob Irsay when he split the scene in Baltimore.

Well..maybe they should have put up some cash then..No city owns a sports team..It's purely entertainment and BUSINESS..
But I know exactly how you feel.. When the Raiders moved to LA it felt like somebody hit me with a baseball bat.. Just devastated. Al Davis was a curse word in our house.

168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:43:03pm

re: #162 Bloodnok

I think Warner was in the Hall before last night. He has nothing to worry about.

Kurt Warner is #1, #2, #3 in total yards passing in individual Super Bowl games. He might just make it into the HOF.

169 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:43:47pm

re: #152 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Rally to the colors, morons!

/Red colors, of course.


Very red.

170 Truck Monkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:44:28pm

re: #163 godfrey

'The Great Lurch Left'

171 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:44:36pm

re: #163 godfrey

'The Great Lurch Left'

Remember Bork's book "Slouching toward Gomorrah"?

We're living in "Slacking toward Socialism" ... followed by the ever crowd pleasing: "Tiptoeing to Totalitarianism"

/That's the "happy face" totalitarianism of the left, of course, for our own good.

172 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:45:41pm

re: #160 JacksonTn

They are riding the socialist train into American on the back of white liberal guilt ...no doubt about it ...

It's more than that. Even communist haters who are Dems can't see the freight train because it is tied up in pretty bows and lofty rhetoric.

173 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:46:18pm

re: #164 albusteve

your right and thanks for the JJ slap!...what a loser eh?...almost drove the entire league into bankrupcy

JJ made his swag in Arkansas in natural gas. Then he goes and buys the Cowpies and...and...LEAVES THEM IN DALLAS! By all that is right and just he should have moved them to Little Rock! And don't try and tell me Arkansas couldn't support a pro franchise. Football is a religion here and if Green Bay can support a franchise so can Little Rock.

174 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:46:22pm

re: #167 HoosierHoops

Well..maybe they should have put up some cash then..No city owns a sports team..It's purely entertainment and BUSINESS..
But I know exactly how you feel.. When the Raiders moved to LA it felt like somebody hit me with a baseball bat.. Just devastated. Al Davis was a curse word in our house.

you cant beat that in court...I can only imagine and I feel for you and all fans that see their teams split or just dissolved

175 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:46:25pm

re: #161 Alouette

Did you submit your time ticket itemizing projects? Zionist checks ain't free, you have to do actual work for the World Zionist Conspiracy.

I shook hands with a jew yesterday. Does that count?
//

176 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:47:04pm

Religion of Pedophiles...
Schoolgirl divorcee, 10, launches book about shocking child bride ordeal


A schoolgirl who was married by the age of eight today launched a new book about her extraordinary ordeal.

Nojoud Ali, now aged 10, is in Paris promoting an autobiography which is set to be a worldwide bestseller.
...
The pair did consummate the marriage, it is claimed.

Yemen, one of the poorest countries in the world, is notorious for its child brides.

Noujoud’s unemployed father, Mohammad Ali Al-Ahdal, told the court he felt obliged to marry off his daughter after receiving repeated threats from the would-be husband and his entourage.

177 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:47:26pm

re: #173 USBeast

JJ made his swag in Arkansas in natural gas. Then he goes and buys the Cowpies and...and...LEAVES THEM IN DALLAS! By all that is right and just he should have moved them to Little Rock! And don't try and tell me Arkansas couldn't support a pro franchise. Football is a religion here and if Green Bay can support a franchise so can Little Rock.

why would he do that?...where he made his money seems irrelevent

178 Lee Coller  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:47:33pm

Charles

OT, do you even want links from WND for articles written by Jerome Corsi? There's one up there no, and the poster is complaining that its only my opinion that those guys aren't credible.

179 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:47:41pm

That was pretty cool. Loved the titanium balls.

180 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:48:27pm
181 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:48:47pm

Ok, back. It's Monday, right? My wonderful husband made dinner, complete with a glass of wine. He just now brought up a pomegranate martini... were there news stories of impending doom that I missed and I really don't have to go to work tomorrow?

182 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:48:50pm

Got to sign off early, dear Lizards--take care!

183 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:48:57pm

re: #14 coquimbojoe

that was pretty cool. Somebody was better at graphics than dialog though.

Dialog stunk, and so did actors. Well, honestly, they were not actors, and you saw no acting happening in that video.

184 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:49:18pm

re: #182 goddessoftheclassroom

Nightsie noodles!

185 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:49:46pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Religion of Pedophiles...
Schoolgirl divorcee, 10, launches book about shocking child bride ordeal

A schoolgirl who was married by the age of eight today launched a new book about her extraordinary ordeal.
Nojoud Ali, now aged 10, is in Paris promoting an autobiography which is set to be a worldwide bestseller.
...
The pair did consummate the marriage, it is claimed.

Yemen, one of the poorest countries in the world, is notorious for its child brides.

Noujoud’s unemployed father, Mohammad Ali Al-Ahdal, told the court he felt obliged to marry off his daughter after receiving repeated threats from the would-be husband and his entourage.

Of course all cultures are equal...so no need to judge here. Nothing to see. Just move along...
*Spit*

186 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:49:47pm

re: #181 ArmyWife

Ok, back. It's Monday, right? My wonderful husband made dinner, complete with a glass of wine. He just now brought up a pomegranate martini... were there news stories of impending doom that I missed and I really don't have to go to work tomorrow?

Tuesday is canceled. Drink up!

187 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:50:24pm

re: #182 goddessoftheclassroom

Got to sign off early, dear Lizards--take care!

You too...

188 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:50:55pm

re: #173 USBeast

JJ made his swag in Arkansas in natural gas. Then he goes and buys the Cowpies and...and...LEAVES THEM IN DALLAS! By all that is right and just he should have moved them to Little Rock! And don't try and tell me Arkansas couldn't support a pro franchise. Football is a religion here and if Green Bay can support a franchise so can Little Rock.

But the Arkansas Cowboys just doesn't have the same ring to it. Maybe the Arkansas Cousins, or something like that.
//

189 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:51:11pm

re: #154 rightymouse

This is very scary stuff for me because I understand how communism roots itself and how it is implemented among the naive.

It's worse then that, the local Economic Recovery House Meeting will be at a bar with a big selection of beer on tap. Drunk Commies plotting is scary stuff./s

190 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:51:27pm

re: #175 Soona'

I shook hands with a jew yesterday. Does that count?
//

Did your penis shrivel up and fall off?

If you are a girl, did you become infertile (or wildly orgasmic?)

Then you can invoice "beta testing"

191 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:51:27pm

re: #177 albusteve

why would he do that?...where he made his money seems irrelevent

You have to be here.

192 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:51:45pm

re: #185 LGoPs

10? I have a 10 year old - she just hopped down the stairs with her field hockey stick.

193 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:52:08pm

re: #188 Soona'

But the Arkansas Cowboys just doesn't have the same ring to it. Maybe the Arkansas Cousins, or something like that.
//

hahaha!...uh oh...

194 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:52:14pm

re: #185 LGoPs

The Western Islamists are going to freak out about this one. Lot's of bad publicity if it becomes a best seller.

195 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:52:20pm

re: #178 Lee Coller

I went and backed you up.

196 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:53:09pm

Also Lee- that's why there's a repost button on links. I reported it to Charles.

197 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:53:17pm

re: #194 Killgore Trout

The Western Islamists are going to freak out about this one. Lot's of bad publicity if it becomes a best seller.

They will claim the book is a fake--the girl can't read and write.

198 Lee Coller  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:53:26pm

re: #195 Sharmuta

I went and backed you up.

Thanks

199 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:54:28pm

re: #197 Alouette

They will claim the book is a fake--the girl can't read and write.

She does not have to read nor write all she has to do is talk!

200 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:54:44pm

re: #189 avanti

It's worse then that, the local Economic Recovery House Meeting will be at a bar with a big selection of beer on tap. Drunk Commies plotting is scary stuff./s

Well that'd add an interesting dynamic...kind of like a beer hall putsch...huh?

And then they all get told to go out and get in our faces...
/

201 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:54:57pm

re: #189 avanti

It's worse then that, the local Economic Recovery House Meeting will be at a bar with a big selection of beer on tap. Drunk Commies plotting is scary stuff./s

SO what do you really think about these "meeting?" And I am not baiting you, I want your honest opinion.

Actually, for me, it's the first thing I have heard of out of the Obama administration that really has me rattled, as in rattled to the core, as in...

If you don't think he is smart, if you don't think he knows what he is doing, if he is not all that bad for the country, I'll just wait to see what he does next... as in...

This is serious.

202 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:55:17pm

re: #198 Lee Coller

No problem. Anything by Corsi is pretty questionable.

203 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:55:22pm

re: #179 Sharmuta

That was pretty cool. Loved the titanium balls.

I tell my husband that every night.

204 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:55:38pm

re: #191 USBeast

You have to be here.

'there' has nothing to do with it...this is America remember?...we're all in it together...why would a guy wreck a billion dollar company to please a small group of people?...dont be bitter, be happy for your homegrown guy

205 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:56:19pm

re: #194 Killgore Trout

The Western Islamists are going to freak out about this one. Lot's of bad publicity if it becomes a best seller.

No doubt they'll call a Fatwa on her. Like they did on Rushdie...

206 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:56:32pm

re: #188 Soona'

But the Arkansas Cowboys just doesn't have the same ring to it. Maybe the Arkansas Cousins, or something like that.
//

Nice jab. We could try the Arkansas Rockers, or the Little Rock Lawyers, the Arkansas Woodpeckers, the Arkansas Peckerwoods...

207 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:56:37pm

re: #174 albusteve

you cant beat that in court...I can only imagine and I feel for you and all fans that see their teams split or just dissolved

But still to top in all off..the sleeziest of all moves..( well maybe the Colts in the middle of the night may last forever)
But the Sonics leaving Seattle is the worst of the worst with the commish acting {delete} The fans may be the ones paying for every single thing and all the contracts..But like baseball showed us..we are really just the little guy in the big picture.

208 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:56:48pm

re: #199 BBev

She does not have to read nor write all she has to do is talk!

She's not allowed to talk to people who can read and write!

209 Killgore Trout  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:57:10pm

re: #197 Alouette

She's also going to need around the clock security, probably for the rest of her life.

210 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:57:29pm

how could an 8 yr. old girl be ready for marriage no matter what the father tells a judge.
sick people, sick culture.

211 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:57:39pm

re: #203 rightymouse

I tell my husband that every night.

Yowza

212 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:58:04pm

re: #189 avanti

It's worse then that, the local Economic Recovery House Meeting will be at a bar with a big selection of beer on tap. Drunk Commies plotting is scary stuff./s


You've never seen communism up front and personal, have you? It's no joking matter.

213 Truck Monkey  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:58:57pm

re: #207 HoosierHoops

But still to top in all off..the sleeziest of all moves..( well maybe the Colts in the middle of the night may last forever)
But the Sonics leaving Seattle is the worst of the worst with the commish acting {delete} The fans may be the ones paying for every single thing and all the contracts..But like baseball showed us..we are really just the little guy in the big picture.

It's tough to top what the Colts did. The Raiders move to Los Angeles was pretty crass though. Al Davis is a jackass.

214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 4:59:10pm

re: #203 rightymouse

Every night? Do you also own a liquor store?

215 Pianobuff  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:00:26pm

An unbelievable "Man Bites Dog" moment...

Paris rejects 'Obama-style' stimulus program

"Prime Minister François Fillon on Monday rejected demands that the French government seek to stimulate consumer spending, rather than follow his plan to stimulate corporate and infrastructure investment, to lift France out of its economic slump.

"It would be irresponsible to chose another policy, which would increase our country's indebtedness without having more infrastructure and increased competitiveness in the end," Fillon said in a speech in Lyon..."

Unbelievable.

216 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:00:54pm

re: #212 rightymouse

You've never seen communism up front and personal, have you? It's no joking matter.

I would never make it in one of those re-education camps. They would kill me on day one.

217 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:01:24pm

re: #189 avanti

It's worse then that, the local Economic Recovery House Meeting will be at a bar with a big selection of beer on tap. Drunk Commies plotting is scary stuff./s

Avanti ...jump on this train ...and take Obama with you ...

218 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:01:44pm

re: #207 HoosierHoops

But still to top in all off..the sleeziest of all moves..( well maybe the Colts in the middle of the night may last forever)
But the Sonics leaving Seattle is the worst of the worst with the commish acting {delete} The fans may be the ones paying for every single thing and all the contracts..But like baseball showed us..we are really just the little guy in the big picture.

basketball is especially fickle...the NBA has some problems fer sure including bloated salaries with limited venues, gangsterism and the prima donna player culture etc

219 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:02:03pm

re: #216 BBev

I would never make it in one of those re-education camps. They would kill me on day one.

Me too...

220 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:02:14pm

re: #212 rightymouse

You've never seen communism up front and personal, have you? It's no joking matter.

There are lots of Americans in the "it could never happen here" crowd.

/they are also known as fools who have no understanding of history or the incredible unlikelihood they are blessed to live in.

221 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:02:31pm

re: #204 albusteve

'there' has nothing to do with it...this is America remember?...we're all in it together...why would a guy wreck a billion dollar company to please a small group of people?...dont be bitter, be happy for your homegrown guy

America has a lot of "there"s and they do mean something. "The Left Coast"? "Flyover Land"? Our regional and state rivalries are an important part, not only of our history, but of our vitality as a nation.

As to Jerry Jones, I might be more forgiving if he wasn't such a jerk.

222 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:02:44pm

re: #213 Truck Monkey

It's tough to top what the Colts did. The Raiders move to Los Angeles was pretty crass though. Al Davis is a jackass.

'the game has passed him by'...

223 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:03:02pm

re: #216 BBev

I would never make it in one of those re-education camps. They would kill me on day one.

Good luck getting me on the train to go to one...

224 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:03:18pm

The link to that idiotic, distorted article at WeirdNutDrooly is deleted.

I haven't blocked wnd.com from the links yet. But I'm considering it.

225 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:03:51pm

re: #217 JacksonTn

re: #201 Walter L. Newton

Look here. I am not happy at all. AT ALL.

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

226 Silhouette  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:03:53pm

re: #220 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

There are lots of Americans in the "it could never happen here" crowd.

/they are also known as fools who have no understanding of history or the incredible unlikelihood they are blessed to live in.

They are also the ones voting for the damn Marxists who will make it happen here.

227 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:04:10pm

re: #211 Bloodnok

Yowza

Heh. There's a reason why we've been married since 1845.

228 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:04:44pm

re: #225 ArmyWife

re: #201 Walter L. Newton

Look here. I am not happy at all. AT ALL.

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

Yeah sick ...we were just discussing that ...

229 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:04:47pm

re: #220 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

There are lots of Americans in the "it could never happen here" crowd.

/they are also known as fools who have no understanding of history or the incredible unlikelihood they are blessed to live in.

You're right about that. They think it'll come with jackboots and goosestepping. What it's more likely to come with is smiley faces and gym shoes and chants of 'it's for the children'...

230 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:05:00pm

re: #200 LGoPs

Well that'd add an interesting dynamic...kind of like a beer hall putsch...huh?

And then they all get told to go out and get in our faces...
/

The local meet and greets are actually pretty interesting way to meet see all kinds of politics, from a nervous first time Democratic voter to a far left pacifist. Lots of discussion on likes and dislikes and what to do about it, who to contact and the like. Grass roots politics, nothing scary to report, but keeps the base involved after the election except the Borg did assimilate the longtime Republican. :)

231 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:05:20pm

re: #214 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Every night? Do you also own a liquor store?

Honey, when you're married to the best, does one tell him less?

232 BBev  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:05:28pm

re: #223 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Good luck getting me on the train to go to one...

Good point

233 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:06:22pm

re: #226 Silhouette

They are also the ones voting for the damn Marxists who will make it happen here.

Mainly because they want something for nothing and expect "the man" to pay for it.

/and in the process they will kill the goose that lays the golden egg, our free market economy.

234 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:06:27pm

re: #224 Charles

I though you had already. My bad. But your call.

Personally- I think tabloids have more credibility.

235 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:06:30pm

re: #213 Truck Monkey

It's tough to top what the Colts did. The Raiders move to Los Angeles was pretty crass though. Al Davis is a jackass.

I hear that..I grew up in No.Cali was was a Raiders and 49ers fan growing up..When the Raiders came to Indy about 4 years ago..I went in all my Raiders stuff...Surprisingly I got home a live but proud.. ( Raiders won)

236 Jonathan Constantine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:06:33pm

Has anyone been following the Daschle debacle closely?

According to Politico, and conventional wisdom Obama will have his back.

But this could be dirtier than it appears as Daschle started to worry about his taxes in June, just about the time when Obama sealed the nomination.

Charles, if you can, consider this:

[Link: thenewnixon.org...]

237 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:06:56pm

re: #229 LGoPs

You're right about that. They think it'll come with jackboots and goosestepping. What it's more likely to come with is smiley faces and gym shoes and chants of 'it's for the children'...

that's what I'll remind them every time I pull the trigger...

238 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:07:29pm

Let's see...

Power corrupts.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The American presidency is arguably the MOST POWERFUL function of the MOST POWERFUL NATION in the world, so the access to corrupting power most directly corrupts a present president...

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, Mr Obama...

239 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:07:40pm

re: #230 avanti

The local meet and greets are actually pretty interesting way to meet see all kinds of politics, from a nervous first time Democratic voter to a far left pacifist. Lots of discussion on likes and dislikes and what to do about it, who to contact and the like. Grass roots politics, nothing scary to report, but keeps the base involved after the election except the Borg did assimilate the longtime Republican. :)

I haven't the slightest idea what you just said...gotta run. Pick this up later.

240 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:08:49pm

re: #229 LGoPs

You're right about that. They think it'll come with jackboots and goosestepping. What it's more likely to come with is smiley faces and gym shoes and chants of 'it's for the children'...

...or "Yes we can"!

241 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:08:57pm

Definition -

HOUSE MEETING - The basic organizational building block of the farmworker movement: one person invites five others to their home for an organizational/motivational meeting. All five in turn invite five others to their homes for a similar meeting, and so forth. During their CSO days, Fred Ross, Sr. mentored Cesar Chavez and Gilbert Padilla in the use of house meetings. In turn, they refined and perfected it to build the farmworker movement, including its use on the boycott. For many years during the 1970s, Fred Ross, Sr. served as an educational consultant teaching the organizational uses of house meetings to wage a successful boycott.


[Link: www.farmworkermovement.org...]

Scary enough now?

242 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:09:15pm

Evenin all! I just finished snacking on left over ribs (always sooo good the day after!) and am now going to make spagetti and meat sauce...I don't want the gound angus to go bad.

I have no clue why I am binging lately...all I want is meat, meat and meat...and no, I'm not preggers!

Also, am i the only one on the boards who hates Jon and Kate plus 8? My daughters love the show, but I just want to ductape Kate's mouth closed and spank the children...also, someone needs to give Jon his balls back.

243 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:09:52pm

re: #241 ArmyWife

Definition -

HOUSE MEETING - The basic organizational building block of the farmworker movement: one person invites five others to their home for an organizational/motivational meeting. All five in turn invite five others to their homes for a similar meeting, and so forth. During their CSO days, Fred Ross, Sr. mentored Cesar Chavez and Gilbert Padilla in the use of house meetings. In turn, they refined and perfected it to build the farmworker movement, including its use on the boycott. For many years during the 1970s, Fred Ross, Sr. served as an educational consultant teaching the organizational uses of house meetings to wage a successful boycott.

[Link: www.farmworkermovement.org...]

Scary enough now?

It's been scary ...for over 2 years ...they just don't know it yet ...

244 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:10:00pm

re: #223 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Good luck getting me on the train to go to one...

It's looking like you won't have to get on any trains to go to one. With this "grass roots" Organize for America team that Obama has put together, the camps are coming to a block near you.

Thats exactly what these Economic Recovery House Meeting's will be like. We may as well be looking for "block captains" going door to door, or at least standing on street corners handing out information as to the community meeting closest to you.

This is NOT the way we do it in America. Yes, we organize at the grass roots level, send politicians to DC, and then they make decisions, according to our principles.

We don't have "block groups" making policy and then informing DC what policy to carry out. That's just what this is designed to do.

It's designed to undermine the way government is set up in our country. This is the same tactics that have been used by socialist for the last 75 years.

Sorry to interrupt your Monday night.

245 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:10:08pm

re: #215 Pianobuff

An unbelievable "Man Bites Dog" moment...

Paris rejects 'Obama-style' stimulus program

"Prime Minister François Fillon on Monday rejected demands that the French government seek to stimulate consumer spending, rather than follow his plan to stimulate corporate and infrastructure investment, to lift France out of its economic slump.

"It would be irresponsible to chose another policy, which would increase our country's indebtedness without having more infrastructure and increased competitiveness in the end," Fillon said in a speech in Lyon..."

Unbelievable.


It's pretty fuckin sad when Fwance makes more sense than our gov't...sigh.

246 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:10:48pm

re: #225 ArmyWife

re: #201 Walter L. Newton

Look here. I am not happy at all. AT ALL.

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

I've already been there. See myre: #244 Walter L. Newton

247 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:10:51pm

re: #240 Soona'

...or "Yes we can"!

and they will all have the same face like those creepy masks etc...

248 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:11:09pm

re: #238 Karridine

Let's see...

Power corrupts.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The American presidency is arguably the MOST POWERFUL function of the MOST POWERFUL NATION in the world, so the access to corrupting power most directly corrupts a present president...

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, Mr Obama...

Except he was already corrupted (name your source: Ayers, Alinsky, Wright... doesn't really matter).

The combination of corrupt narcissist with absolute power is the making of a really terrible time in the Roman Empire. We think we are different. lol.

249 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:12:08pm

re: #224 Charles

The link to that idiotic, distorted article at WeirdNutDrooly is deleted.

I haven't blocked wnd.com from the links yet. But I'm considering it.

I read some stuff off WND about 18 months ago.. I will never read any link from there again..The place is not credible but they add just enough truth to the story to seem credible...

250 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:12:41pm

Hey Avanti, I left a comment for you, get back to me ASAP.

251 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:13:25pm

re: #220 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

There are lots of Americans in the "it could never happen here" crowd.

/they are also known as fools who have no understanding of history or the incredible unlikelihood they are blessed to live in.


It could happen here. There is 50% or so of the electorate who would blindly and willingly march us in that direction out of some goofy dew-eyed allegiance to a cult figure. And they wouldn't know what hit them until they started being lined up against the wall. Or their kids. Or other family members. Then it's too late. One must understand the ideology and reject it before it can take root.

252 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:13:31pm

re: #249 HoosierHoops

Their story about California banning Christian books in schools did it for me. A quick google of that story showed it was complete BS.

253 Silhouette  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:13:39pm

re: #241 ArmyWife

I'm on the email list for MoveOn.org and a couple of other leftist groups. They asked me daily to "host an Obama party" for the primaries, the convention, the election, the inauguration, etc. The cult-like message of "Come on, you're a PART of something now that is bigger than yourself, and we like you," was palpable in every one.

254 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:13:49pm

re: #246 Walter L. Newton

Sorry. Martini and all. ;)

255 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:14:40pm

re: #238 Karridine

Let's see...

Power corrupts.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The American presidency is arguably the MOST POWERFUL function of the MOST POWERFUL NATION in the world, so the access to corrupting power most directly corrupts a present president...

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, Mr Obama...

Short trip for a Chicago Pol. I would add the old saying: "You can't touch pitch without getting blackened." but that would be politically incorrect.

256 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:14:56pm

re: #254 ArmyWife

Sorry. Martini and all. ;)

No, I didn't mean it like that, I just wanted to make sure you saw it.

257 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:15:01pm

re: #253 Silhouette

They don't even know what that means. My husband is really part of something bigger than himself. That would be lost on these freaks, though.

258 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:15:28pm

re: #244 Walter L. Newton

No problem... we've just reached that 50% hand-out limit that marks the end of effective democracy.

We either have a pendulum push back with conservative grass roots, or we slip into the night.

/Yeah there is another option, but that's not something to be talked about.

259 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:16:03pm

re: #256 Walter L. Newton

I am just gobsmacked by this. They aren't even TRYING to hide the commie connotations.

260 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:16:15pm

re: #230 avanti

The local meet and greets are actually pretty interesting way to meet see all kinds of politics, from a nervous first time Democratic voter to a far left pacifist. Lots of discussion on likes and dislikes and what to do about it, who to contact and the like. Grass roots politics, nothing scary to report, but keeps the base involved after the election except the Borg did assimilate the longtime Republican. :)


Obfuscate much?

261 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:16:16pm

re: #253 Silhouette

I'm on the email list for MoveOn.org and a couple of other leftist groups. They asked me daily to "host an Obama party" for the primaries, the convention, the election, the inauguration, etc. The cult-like message of "Come on, you're a PART of something now that is bigger than yourself, and we like you," was palpable in every one.

That is why they keep driving home the "we will keep you informed on the website crap" and the "we are all apart of this thing" and "yes WE can" ...

262 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:16:25pm

re: #234 Sharmuta

I though you had already. My bad. But your call.

Personally- I think tabloids have more credibility.

You got to hand it to the tabloids after they did a beat down on the MSM with the John Edwards story...You know those are priceless media moments.

263 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:17:05pm

re: #244 Walter L. Newton

It's looking like you won't have to get on any trains to go to one. With this "grass roots" Organize for America team that Obama has put together, the camps are coming to a block near you.

Thats exactly what these Economic Recovery House Meeting's will be like. We may as well be looking for "block captains" going door to door, or at least standing on street corners handing out information as to the community meeting closest to you.

This is NOT the way we do it in America. Yes, we organize at the grass roots level, send politicians to DC, and then they make decisions, according to our principles.

We don't have "block groups" making policy and then informing DC what policy to carry out. That's just what this is designed to do.

It's designed to undermine the way government is set up in our country. This is the same tactics that have been used by socialist for the last 75 years.

Sorry to interrupt your Monday night.

I remember that revolutionary war symbol "Don't tread on me". The phrasing might be a little archaic today and might be misunderstood. We need to replace it with something along the lines of "Leave me the Fuck Alone"...or "Keep your stinking socialist hands off me"...

264 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:17:42pm

re: #201 Walter L. Newton

SO what do you really think about these "meeting?" And I am not baiting you, I want your honest opinion.

.

This is serious.

See my previous post for some insight. The whole theory behind his grass routes drive is to keep the base involved. The 20 million on his mailing list get updates about legislation, upcoming local meetings and the like.
We are encouraged to comment pro and con by e-mail, and at any meetings. It lets the administration run a idea up the flag pool to see if anyone salutes. For example, many of us our going to suggest a hard look at some of the good ideas from the GOP on the stimulus bill, but not to make it bigger just to get their vote.
Politically, it keeps a whole bunch of voters involved between election cycles.

265 DEZes  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:17:48pm

The next video will be Maya vs. 3ds Max vs. XSI vs. Z-Brush vs. Mudbox.

266 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:17:59pm

re: #251 rightymouse

It could happen here. There is 50% or so of the electorate who would blindly and willingly march us in that direction out of some goofy dew-eyed allegiance to a cult figure. And they wouldn't know what hit them until they started being lined up against the wall. Or their kids. Or other family members. Then it's too late. One must understand the ideology and reject it before it can take root.

I wouldn't be too sure about that...most of the voters for BO had no clue and I still believe when push comes to shove most Americans will call BS on 'lining up against a wall'

267 LGoPs  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:18:11pm

BBL

268 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:18:12pm

re: #255 USBeast

Short trip for a Chicago Pol. I would add the old saying: "You can't touch pitch without getting blackened." but that would be politically incorrect.

I hear you.

The naked corruption, partisan politics, un-American or anti-American efforts, blatant lying, shameless greed and unalloyed IGNORANCE demonstrated by our elected officials is enough for me to opt for a better system.

Now.

269 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:18:20pm

Bill O'Reilly is being really dishonest about that NYT editorial he's pissed off about.

He DID say:

"They want to break down the white, Christian, male power structure, which you're a part, and so am I, and they want to bring in millions of foreign nationals to basically break down the structure that we have. In that regard, Pat Buchanan is right. So I say you've got to cap with a number."

And he actually played the clip that statement is from ... but STOPPED before the statement. Not cool at all.

Here's the video:

270 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:18:37pm

Dismay as Gadhafi chosen to lead African Union

Moammar Gadhafi of Libya was elected Monday as leader of the African Union, a position long sought by the eccentric dictator who wants to push his oil-rich nation into the international mainstream after years of isolation.

Gadhafi, once ostracized by the West for sponsoring terrorism, has been trying to increase both Libya's global stature and its regional influence — mediating African conflicts, sponsoring efforts to spread Islam on the continent and pushing for the creation of a single African government.

He attended the session dressed in a gold-embroidered green robe and flanked by seven extravagantly dressed men who said they are the "traditional kings of Africa." Gadhafi told about 20 of his fellow heads of state that that he would work to unite the continent into "the United States of Africa."

Just what Africa needs- a fashion savvy nut job at the helm.

271 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:18:52pm

And I think he's about to have Pat Buchanan on.

Good grief.

272 jaunte  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:19:09pm

Bolivarian Circles

Chávez organized these circles, which he cites as examples of grassroots and participatory democracy. The circles themselves were purportedly decentralized, made autonomous from any central government oversight, and instead organized on the neighborhood and block level.


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

273 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:19:25pm

re: #244 Walter L. Newton

It's looking like you won't have to get on any trains to go to one. With this "grass roots" Organize for America team that Obama has put together, the camps are coming to a block near you.

Thats exactly what these Economic Recovery House Meeting's will be like. We may as well be looking for "block captains" going door to door, or at least standing on street corners handing out information as to the community meeting closest to you.

This is NOT the way we do it in America. Yes, we organize at the grass roots level, send politicians to DC, and then they make decisions, according to our principles.

We don't have "block groups" making policy and then informing DC what policy to carry out. That's just what this is designed to do.

It's designed to undermine the way government is set up in our country. This is the same tactics that have been used by socialist for the last 75 years.

Sorry to interrupt your Monday night.

This also reminds me of a story about a Chicom farming village. It's the little community meetings like these that appoint the "political overseer" if you please, that gathers information on people who aren't toeing the party line. You're right, Walter. This is some scary shit.

274 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:19:37pm

re: #258 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

No problem... we've just reached that 50% hand-out limit that marks the end of effective democracy.

We either have a pendulum push back with conservative grass roots, or we slip into the night.

/Yeah there is another option, but that's not something to be talked about.

And it seems like it's only you and I who understand this. I'm being a bit tacky there, but really, there is a WHOLE lot of stuff coming down, fast, and it's getting by a WHOLE lot of people who should be catching it.

There is SO many aspects of this that have been put in place, like a puzzle piece here, and a puzzle piece there, and at some point, the puzzle master is going to place the last piece into the picture and it will all come together.

It's going to be a real circus when it does. Fooled you all.

275 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:19:37pm

re: #264 avanti

See my previous post for some insight. The whole theory behind his grass routes drive is to keep the base involved. The 20 million on his mailing list get updates about legislation, upcoming local meetings and the like.
We are encouraged to comment pro and con by e-mail, and at any meetings. It lets the administration run a idea up the flag pool to see if anyone salutes. For example, many of us our going to suggest a hard look at some of the good ideas from the GOP on the stimulus bill, but not to make it bigger just to get their vote.
Politically, it keeps a whole bunch of voters involved between election cycles.

Yeah ...wow he is so cool ...he has got you all right where he wants you ...drooling ...and believing anything he says ...you see we have seen this all along ...you are still in the middle of it ...I have been around those people all my life ...there is nothing behind them when you peel back the layers except manipulation ...

276 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:20:06pm

re: #259 ArmyWife

I am just gobsmacked by this. They aren't even TRYING to hide the commie connotations.


Amen, sistah!

277 Racer X  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:21:40pm

re: #176 Killgore Trout

Religion of Pedophiles...
Schoolgirl divorcee, 10, launches book about shocking child bride ordeal

A schoolgirl who was married by the age of eight today launched a new book about her extraordinary ordeal.
Nojoud Ali, now aged 10, is in Paris promoting an autobiography which is set to be a worldwide bestseller.
...
The pair did consummate the marriage, it is claimed.

Yemen, one of the poorest countries in the world, is notorious for its child brides.

Noujoud’s unemployed father, Mohammad Ali Al-Ahdal, told the court he felt obliged to marry off his daughter after receiving repeated threats from the would-be husband and his entourage.


If some asshole and his "entourage" threatened to harm me if I didn't turn over my TEN year old daughter, there would be several dead punks. I'll pay the price as long as my daughter stays safe.

I cannot even imagine someone intimidating me to give up my daughter to be raped. I could never live with that. I wouldn't.

278 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:22:23pm

re: #269 Charles

This is why I keep saying Fox is a moby network. It's crap like that that shows they're not conservative, more like paleocon, and it taints the rest of us to have them held up as a right-wing network.

279 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:22:25pm

re: #271 Charles

And I think he's about to have Pat Buchanan on.

Good grief.

His sister, Bay.

280 Lee Coller  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:22:42pm

re: #252 Sharmuta

It was a number of things for me. The first clue was when the commentators I respected (Hugh Hewitt for example) stopped posting their columns there. Their "security newsletter" (I forget what it was actually called) always seemed to be a joke, and their White House Correspondent seemed to be a right-wing version of Helen Thomas. By the time the Nirth Cirtifikit stuff came around their reputation was well established.

281 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:23:31pm

re: #278 Sharmuta

This is why I keep saying Fox is a moby network. It's crap like that that shows they're not conservative, more like paleocon, and it taints the rest of us to have them held up as a right-wing network.

They ended up just like the rest ...and Bill O'Rielly was the worst ...he was about to go down on Obama for an interview and then he kept saying how touch he was on Obama ...

282 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:23:31pm
They want to break down the white, Christian, male power structure

Racists, sexist disgusting comment, and I'm not sure what other news outlet would tolerate it.

283 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:23:32pm

re: #258 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

/Yeah there is another option, but that's not something to be talked about.

I won't talk about it either. But I am trying to get ready for it.

284 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:23:55pm

re: #278 Sharmuta

This is why I keep saying Fox is a moby network. It's crap like that that shows they're not conservative, more like paleocon, and it taints the rest of us to have them held up as a right-wing network.

I concur...Fox is nearly as damaging as the others...it's just a matter of degrees

285 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:24:27pm

It's Bay Buchanan. Man. Times like this I want to resign from the so-called conservative movement. The press conference the NYT is talking about included a selection of some of the nastiest "racialist" nutjobs in America.

For example, Peter Brimelow:

286 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:24:42pm

re: #264 avanti

See my previous post for some insight. The whole theory behind his grass routes drive is to keep the base involved. The 20 million on his mailing list get updates about legislation, upcoming local meetings and the like.
We are encouraged to comment pro and con by e-mail, and at any meetings. It lets the administration run a idea up the flag pool to see if anyone salutes. For example, many of us our going to suggest a hard look at some of the good ideas from the GOP on the stimulus bill, but not to make it bigger just to get their vote.
Politically, it keeps a whole bunch of voters involved between election cycles.

Avanti. You just disclosed enough information that tell me who you are, what you are and why you are here.

I refuse from this point forward to have any further discussion of issues with you here.

And do me a BIG FAVOR. Make sure you have clipped and pasted as much as you can of my comments and posts and take them to your little block captain.

I'm not afraid of the "nuanced" threats that you have "hidden" in you comment above.

Do tread on me, got that?

287 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:24:52pm

re: #281 JacksonTn

They ended up just like the rest ...and Bill O'Rielly was the worst ...he was about to go down on Obama for an interview and then he kept saying how touch he was on Obama ...

Your Freudian slip is showing.

288 Ooh, look, shiny...  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:25:04pm

re: #277 Racer X

If some asshole and his "entourage" threatened to harm me if I didn't turn over my TEN year old daughter, there would be several dead punks. I'll pay the price as long as my daughter stays safe.

I cannot even imagine someone intimidating me to give up my daughter to be raped. I could never live with that. I wouldn't.

Of course you wouldn't; you're an American. You were raised to believe that 10 year old girls should have barbie collections or skinned knees from climbing trees, or both. (Their choice.)

The problem is a culture in which they are raised to believe this is not that bad. Yemeni culture (and they aren't the only ones) is full of this.

289 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:25:10pm

re: #264 avanti

The whole idea is "organizing" as in the UFW. They used it to boycott and strong arm the Union in - if you are a labor type, this group is notable to say the least.

290 Karridine  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:25:11pm

re: #263 LGoPs

We need to replace it with something along the lines of "Leave me the Fuck Alone"...or "Keep your stinking socialist hands off me"...

Well, Comrade, perhaps it is THIS counter-group antagonism that has brought you to Happy Happy Joy Joy Camp...

Don't you SEE that THIS is why we had to prepare these camps in the first place? Its because of counter-productive people like YOU who want to 'go it alone' that we were FORCED to make preparations for 25 MILLION of YOUR KIND being brought here and moved quietly out of the way...

Do you see how YOU brought this on YOURSELF?

Do you see how YOU made us do this?

Now, go to the showers or I'll taser you right here, and then we'll drag your stinking, counter-revolutionary limp-dick carcass to the ovens, you moron! Its for the greater good!

291 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:25:17pm

re: #268 Karridine

I hear you.

The naked corruption, partisan politics, un-American or anti-American efforts, blatant lying, shameless greed and unalloyed IGNORANCE demonstrated by our elected officials is enough for me to opt for a better system.

Now.

We already have a "better system". It's called the Constitution of the United States. The present disfunction of our government is the result of the deliberate sabotage of our Republic in favor of more "democracy". Senators used to be elected by state legislatures and that's just one example. There cries to do away with the Electoral College every election. We don't need a better system. We need to strip down to the system given us by the Founders.

292 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:25:39pm

re: #259 ArmyWife

I am just gobsmacked by this. They aren't even TRYING to hide the commie connotations.

I've been saying it for a few months now. What else can I do?

294 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:25:53pm

re: #269 Charles

Bill O'Reilly is being really dishonest about that NYT editorial he's pissed off about.

He DID say:

And he actually played the clip that statement is from ... but STOPPED before the statement. Not cool at all.

Here's the video:


[Video]

That's a bit sad, and typical of the MSM. I'll see them reporting some bit of sensational news, and I scream at the screen that they are lying and must know better.

295 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:26:26pm

It's crap like that that brings Zell Miller to my mind- I didn't leave the right, the right left me.

296 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:26:31pm

re: #287 MandyManners

Your Freudian slip is showing.

Mandy ...LOL ...you know why I wrote that?... I was thinking about how Obama leaned over and "touched" or nearly touched O'Rielly's leg during the interview ...I remember seeing that and I thought ...yep ...he is going in with the body language ...he makes me sick ..

297 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:26:31pm

re: #286 Walter L. Newton

Avanti. You just disclosed enough information that tell me who you are, what you are and why you are here.

I've been saying that for about a week.

298 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:27:31pm

re: #292 Walter L. Newton

I'm with you - I've been with you, I am still with you. We've disagreed at times, but brother, I got your back.

299 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:27:43pm

“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ”

“I am deeply embarrassed and disappointed by the errors that required me to amend my tax returns, I apologize for the errors and profoundly regret that you have had to devote time to them.”

Was the first quote by some law and order conservative type?

Nope... by the same tax cheatin' sumabitch that said the second quote.

Tom "too important to pay taxes, but you little people will be prosecuted damnit" Daschle.

300 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:27:56pm

O'Reilly can't possibly be trying to defend people like Pat Buchanan, Peter Brimelow, and Marcus Epstein, can he?

This is shameful.

301 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:28:07pm

re: #296 JacksonTn

Mandy ...LOL ...you know why I wrote that?... I was thinking about how Obama leaned over and "touched" or nearly touched O'Rielly's leg during the interview ...I remember seeing that and I thought ...yep ...he is going in with the body language ...he makes me sick ..

It's part of the narcissist's charm to rope someone in, to include the other person in his special being.

302 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:28:08pm

re: #274 Walter L. Newton

Nah, we aren't the only ones. A lot of people see it but don't want to believe it possible. When things start to happen, they'll tip.

I for one will continue to live my life the way I prefer, I cause others no trouble. Woe be to anyone who tries to force me to stop, for they will have to go out of their way to enforce their views on me.

303 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:28:41pm

re: #297 MandyManners

I've been saying that for about a week.

It's been there all along from day one ...not my first rodeo with it ...

304 Lee Coller  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:28:44pm

re: #300 Charles

O'Reilly can't possibly be trying to defend people like Pat Buchanan, Peter Brimelow, and Marcus Epstein, can he?

This is shameful.

William F. Buckley is spinning in his grave. We need another one to follow in his footsteps right now.

305 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:28:44pm

re: #285 Charles

It's Bay Buchanan. Man. Times like this I want to resign from the so-called conservative movement. The press conference the NYT is talking about included a selection of some of the nastiest "racialist" nutjobs in America.

For example, Peter Brimelow:


[Video]

he's not from Iowa...too draconian for my taste

306 Luigi  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:29:08pm

Political Cripples..

I think Obama is purposely selecting crooked nominees to his cabinet posts. I think some old Alinsky type once told him that political cripples like Dashle and Geithner and Holder would have blind loyalty because they have nowhere else to go, and he can pull the string on therm anytime he wants.

Note how Obama tried to cripple Hillary for her State nomination by having her list the sources of funds for her husband's think tank or whatever the heck it is. I mean, it is her husband's joint, not hers. He must have thought this would cripple her the way they would take an axe to a slave's foot on the plantation.

307 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:29:48pm

re: #300 Charles

O'Reilly can't possibly be trying to defend people like Pat Buchanan, Peter Brimelow, and Marcus Epstein, can he?

This is shameful.

What's a little Nazism when you're fighting Islamofacist and Marxist?
///
*spit*

308 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:30:03pm

re: #301 MandyManners

I would have popped him. Then one of you would have had to bail me out.

309 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:30:17pm

re: #283 Soona'

That's talking about it. :-)

310 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:30:41pm

re: #308 ArmyWife

I would have popped him. Then one of you would have had to bail me out.

He touched first. Touching without permission is battery.

311 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:30:55pm

Guh.

That O'Reilly segment is a perfect illustration of the worst parts of the GOP. That is why Republicans have lost the last two elections.

312 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:30:58pm

re: #297 MandyManners

I've been saying that for about a week.

Seriously. You can expect every blog and forum on the internet to have Avanti's trolling and posting and baiting, so they can run back to their little home teams and report on the big bad conservatives.

And they have no intent to hide what they are doing. This serves a number of purposes...

1) We know they are watching.
2) We know they exist.
3) We know that if we say something, it could get back to the home teams.
4) It breeds paranoia.
5) it...

I'll tell everyone on LFG this. If you want a quick refresher course on what's happening, read or re-read 1984.

Thank you.

313 UberInfidel67  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:31:32pm

**Question** : Does the term "Crusaders" irritate the Jews or just the moes?

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

314 oh_dude  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:31:37pm

The best part is when the PC bitch-slaps the MAC.

This had to have been filmed at some college campus. That's the only place you'd see that many Macs in one place. That or some tutty-fruitty ad agency.

315 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:32:00pm

And on top of it, O'Reilly can't even pronounce "supremacist" correctly.

316 Ooh, look, shiny...  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:32:06pm

So, off topic or maybe not, my kids were helping out at an Eagle Scout project this afternoon. Volunteering, that's good right? Builds character, gets some trees planted...

What The One is missing is that it builds character because and only because it's voluntary. (Well, not for my kids, their parents informed them they were going to go.) The kid getting his Eagle, though, it's voluntary. He chose to do something difficult, something worthwhile, just because it was worthwhile.

It's that choice that is worth everything.

The same set of actions done because the Obama-enforced-program insisted on it for your parents to get their gas rations that month (yeah, I'm being over the top), would do the kid no good at all.

I just don't think he gets this.

317 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:32:22pm

Jaunte- I took a look at your response. It looks fabulous. I replied back.

318 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:32:50pm

Mary Katherine. Don't do this. You're backing something you shouldn't.

319 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:33:17pm

re: #312 Walter L. Newton

Seriously. You can expect every blog and forum on the internet to have Avanti's trolling and posting and baiting, so they can run back to their little home teams and report on the big bad conservatives.

And they have no intent to hide what they are doing. This serves a number of purposes...

1) We know they are watching.
2) We know they exist.
3) We know that if we say something, it could get back to the home teams.
4) It breeds paranoia.
5) it...

I'll tell everyone on LFG this. If you want a quick refresher course on what's happening, read or re-read 1984.

Thank you.

Fuck the home teams.

320 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:33:19pm

re: #306 Luigi

Political Cripples..

I think Obama is purposely selecting crooked nominees to his cabinet posts. I think some old Alinsky type once told him that political cripples like Dashle and Geithner and Holder would have blind loyalty because they have nowhere else to go, and he can pull the string on therm anytime he wants.

Note how Obama tried to cripple Hillary for her State nomination by having her list the sources of funds for her husband's think tank or whatever the heck it is. I mean, it is her husband's joint, not hers. He must have thought this would cripple her the way they would take an axe to a slave's foot on the plantation.

You might have something here. Also consider that his Justice Department might be able to dig up reasons to throw them under the bus if they get out of line.

321 Racer X  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:33:25pm

re: #312 Walter L. Newton

Wait, you're saying that little fucker is copying and pasting comments from here and sending them off to his Kommanders?

322 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:33:36pm

re: #295 Sharmuta

It's crap like that that brings Zell Miller to my mind- I didn't leave the right, the right left me.

I'm affraid that the right will move so far center left there will be no more right...one huge pool of left center voters...an undefeatable bloc...true conservatism will be dead...and so will I by then I suppose

323 Ooh, look, shiny...  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:33:53pm

re: #315 Charles

And on top of it, O'Reilly can't even pronounce "supremacist" correctly.

I can!

Supremacist: (Cree-tin)

324 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:34:03pm

re: #312 Walter L. Newton

Seriously. You can expect every blog and forum on the internet to have Avanti's trolling and posting and baiting, so they can run back to their little home teams and report on the big bad conservatives.

And they have no intent to hide what they are doing. This serves a number of purposes...

1) We know they are watching.
2) We know they exist.
3) We know that if we say something, it could get back to the home teams.
4) It breeds paranoia.
5) it...

I'll tell everyone on LFG this. If you want a quick refresher course on what's happening, read or re-read 1984.

Thank you.

Walter ...nothing new ...they paid people to troll blogs during the campaign to try to persuade people to "come on over" ...they use the same tactics I have seen from "person" ...

First they defend The One ...then at the end of the post they turn it and say something that makes it seem like they may be wrong ...so that you think you may be able to persuade them differently but they are only biding time so they can stay around longer ...they were all over the blogs for the two years of the campaign ...

325 jaunte  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:34:07pm

re: #317 Sharmuta

I'll have to hike the eight miles and pump some more water into my steam-driven emailer to receive your message, so you may not hear from me on it until tomorrow...

326 Soona'  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:34:12pm

I'm outta here. Till manana. (for you lurking illegals out there). Have a good evening, lizards.

327 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:34:38pm

re: #322 albusteve

I'm affraid that the right will move so far center left there will be no more right...one huge pool of left center voters...an undefeatable bloc...true conservatism will be dead...and so will I by then I suppose

No- a section of the right is moving so far right they're hooking up with the far left and it's a party of whack nuts.

328 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:35:10pm

re: #321 Racer X

Wait, you're saying that little fucker is copying and pasting comments from here and sending them off to his Kommanders?

Is it paranoid if it's true?

329 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:35:17pm

re: #321 Racer X

Wait, you're saying that little fucker is copying and pasting comments from here and sending them off to his Kommanders?

I'll stake my life on it. Which is what I think a lot of use may have to do in the future.

330 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:35:34pm

re: #315 Charles

But he can say "nuclear" and that is all that matters, really.
///

331 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:35:58pm

re: #315 Charles

And on top of it, O'Reilly can't even pronounce "supremacist" correctly.

well that ices the deal for me...I'm outski with Fox

332 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:36:04pm

re: #318 Charles

Mary Katherine. Don't do this. You're backing something you shouldn't.

Anyone watching O'Reilly is doing that, as well as anyone subscribing to his website. He;s lost his mind, and can go join ron paul.

333 Render  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:36:41pm

Mac has no chance.

Meet the Tesla's.

[Link: www.nvidia.com...]

[Link: www.nvidia.com...]

[Link: www.nvidia.com...]

There are battleships in your bathtub.

BIG
GUNS,
R

334 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:36:46pm

re: #328 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Is it paranoid if it's true?

Lt.. *Salutes*
Good evening Sir

335 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:37:14pm

O'Reilly is a putz.

I don't watch Fox news at all. Don't watch any other network news either. They are about ratings, folks.

336 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:37:17pm

re: #332 Sharmuta

Anyone watching O'Reilly is doing that, as well as anyone subscribing to his website. He;s lost his mind, and can go join ron paul.

I'm stupid. Who's Mary Katherine? It sounds like the mother superior that ran the Catholic school I went to.

337 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:37:25pm

re: #327 Sharmuta

No- a section of the right is moving so far right they're hooking up with the far left and it's a party of whack nuts.

The political möbius strip... Magellan would be proud.

338 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:37:34pm

re: #289 ArmyWife

The whole idea is "organizing" as in the UFW. They used it to boycott and strong arm the Union in - if you are a labor type, this group is notable to say the least.

It amazing how differently we see the same thing. I see the administration trying to stay in touch with those that supported them, asking for their input pro and con and support. I can assure you, it's not some Commie plot to take over the country. It's getting the individual citizen involved in the process. It's also a very savvy political move, maybe designed to help keep the Democrats in power.
If you happen to believe you should vote, then sit down and shut up without comment until you can vote again, then it's a scary concept.

339 DEZes  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:37:55pm

re: #336 Walter L. Newton

I'm stupid. Who's Mary Katherine? It sounds like the mother superior that ran the Catholic school I went to.


Ham?

340 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:38:00pm

re: #335 rightymouse

O'Reilly is a putz.

I don't watch Fox news at all. Don't watch any other network news either. They are about ratings, folks.

There are some conservatives that still thinks Fox is the "cat's meow."

341 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:38:10pm

This song has been going on in my head since Obama started.

"The Package"

Clever got me this far
Then tricky got me in
Eye on what i'm after
I don't need another friend
Smile and drop the cliche
'Till you think I'm listening
I take just what I came for
Then I'm out the door again

Peripheral on the package
Don't care to settle in
Time to feed the monster
I don't need another friend
Comfort is a mystery
Crawling out of my own skin
Just give me what I came for, then I'm out the door again

Lie to get what I came for
Lie to get just what I need
Lie to get what I crave
Lie and smile to get what's mine

Eye on what i'm after
I don't need another friend
Nod and watch your lips move
If you need me to pretend
Because clever got me this far
Then tricky got me in
I'll take just what I came for
Then I'm out the door again

Lie to get what I came for
Lie to get what I need now
Lie to get what I'm craving
Lie and smile to get what's mine

Give this to me
Mine, mine, mine
Take what's mine
Mine, mine, mine
Take what's mine
Mine, mine, mine

Lie to get what I came for
Lie to get what I need now
Lie to get what I'm craving
Lie to smile and get what's mine

Give this to me
Take what's mine
Mine, mine, mine
Take what's mine
Give this to me

Take what's mine, take what's mine, mine...
Take what's mine, take what's mine, take what's mine,
This is mine, mine, mine [whispered]

342 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:38:21pm

re: #335 rightymouse

O'Reilly is a putz.

I don't watch Fox news at all. Don't watch any other network news either. They are about ratings, folks.

I don't either, and every time something like this comes up, it makes me glad I made the decision to cut cable from my budget.

343 Luigi  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:38:35pm

Fun fact: total cost of Iraq War from the start until now -- about $600 billion.

The various stimuli in the last few months make that look like chump change.

344 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:38:46pm

re: #327 Sharmuta

No- a section of the right is moving so far right they're hooking up with the far left and it's a party of whack nuts.

is this the hidden meaning of Pi?...hahaha...I'm a hayseed, hardly supreme to anyone...

345 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:38:52pm

re: #339 DEZes

Ham?

That really fucking helped. Anyone else?

346 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:39:02pm

re: #312 Walter L. Newton

Seriously. You can expect every blog and forum on the internet to have Avanti's trolling and posting and baiting, so they can run back to their little home teams and report on the big bad conservatives.

And they have no intent to hide what they are doing. This serves a number of purposes...

1) We know they are watching.
2) We know they exist.
3) We know that if we say something, it could get back to the home teams.
4) It breeds paranoia.
5) it...

I'll tell everyone on LFG this. If you want a quick refresher course on what's happening, read or re-read 1984.

Thank you.


I'm just glad I'm not the only one here who thinks he's a trollish jerk.

347 Cathypop  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:39:06pm

re: #306 Luigi

Political Cripples..

I think Obama is purposely selecting crooked nominees to his cabinet posts. I think some old Alinsky type once told him that political cripples like Dashle and Geithner and Holder would have blind loyalty because they have nowhere else to go, and he can pull the string on therm anytime he wants.

Note how Obama tried to cripple Hillary for her State nomination by having her list the sources of funds for her husband's think tank or whatever the heck it is. I mean, it is her husband's joint, not hers. He must have thought this would cripple her the way they would take an axe to a slave's foot on the plantation.


So that he can blame them for everything that goes wrong!

348 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:39:14pm

re: #334 HoosierHoops

Hey Hoosier!

You guys get up to 50 today? We sure didn't... I feel cheated. Thank G-d they can predict temps to a tenth of a degree 100 years from now, eh?

349 jaunte  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:39:45pm

re: #345 Walter L. Newton

Here's a wiki:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

350 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:39:47pm

re: #333 Render

R - There are no battleships in my tub. I promise. But you do have mail.

351 DEZes  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:39:58pm

re: #345 Walter L. Newton

That really fucking helped. Anyone else?


Mary Katherin Ham!

352 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:40:00pm

re: #345 Walter L. Newton

That really fucking helped. Anyone else?

Walter ...are you talking about Mary Catherine that is a talking head on FOX sometimes? She is young and I think posts at townhall ...but not sure ...

353 Charles Johnson  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:40:01pm

Mary Katherine Ham. Juan Williams also co-signed on this one.

I wonder if they really know the backgrounds of the people they're carelessly putting their names on the line to defend?

354 Lee Coller  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:40:37pm

re: #345 Walter L. Newton

She's a columnist at townhall.com.

355 Ojoe  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:40:50pm

The gloaming of February 2nd A,.D. 2009, upon the San Gabriel Mountains of California. The Towercam.

"Paradise is all around us and we do not understand."

—Thomas Merton.

356 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:04pm

re: #343 Luigi

Fun fact: total cost of Iraq War from the start until now -- about $600 billion.

The various stimuli in the last few months make that look like chump change.

Does that include the 10 trillion that Cheney made from Halliburton?
/

357 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:09pm

re: #335 rightymouse

O'Reilly is a putz.

I don't watch Fox news at all. Don't watch any other network news either. They are about ratings, folks.

a month ago someone beat me up good for this same position...Fox is for the nuanced right...I'm not nuanced, they suck

358 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:14pm

re: #338 avanti

It amazing how differently we see the same thing. I see the administration trying to stay in touch with those that supported them, asking for their input pro and con and support. I can assure you, it's not some Commie plot to take over the country. It's getting the individual citizen involved in the process. It's also a very savvy political move, maybe designed to help keep the Democrats in power.
If you happen to believe you should vote, then sit down and shut up without comment until you can vote again, then it's a scary concept.

Bite me. I know communism when I see it. You don't. Go read a book on Mao or something and try to educate your dim self.

359 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:27pm

Looks looks Daschle is on his way to screwing up our health care system.
Democrats are above the law, above shame.
Media giving the tax cheat lobbyist whore a pass -as Dashole has groveled properly for the camera.

360 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:33pm

re: #338 avanti

Avanti - I don't know if you are aware - I specialize in Labor Relations. This is my life. I know the movement, I know the thoughts. I've been pawed by the head of the AFL-CIO. I know the inner workings, and this is exactly what I said it was.

361 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:39pm
362 Syrah  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:53pm

Its a great video.

And from the basement is heard . . . "All your servers are belong to Linux. You are on the way to destruction. You have no chance to survive make your time. Ha ha ha ha ..."

363 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:41:55pm

We get rid of a tax to the max moron.
The whole country will suffer for it.

King County (Seattle, WA) Executive Sims Nominated For HUD Job

President Barack Obama is nominating King County Executive Ron Sims for the No. 2 job at the Department of Housing and Urban Development.


Sim's pushed growth management, evironmental regulations that have added $200,000 cost to home prices in King Co. medium home price is $400,000. Half the cost of housing in King Co. is hidden taxes.

Then he pushes regulations, taxes etc... to increase the amount of "affordable" housing.

He's also driven the King Co. budget $60 million into the red.

WE

ARE

SO

SCREWED

364 Lee Coller  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:42:09pm

re: #353 Charles

Mary Katherine Ham. Juan Williams also co-signed on this one.

I wonder if they really know the backgrounds of the people they're carelessly putting their names on the line to defend?

I don't think they do. I'm always amazed at the number of people Pat Buchanan has snowed.

365 The Shadow Do  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:42:39pm

re: #264 avanti

See my previous post for some insight. The whole theory behind his grass routes drive is to keep the base involved. The 20 million on his mailing list get updates about legislation, upcoming local meetings and the like.
We are encouraged to comment pro and con by e-mail, and at any meetings. It lets the administration run a idea up the flag pool to see if anyone salutes. For example, many of us our going to suggest a hard look at some of the good ideas from the GOP on the stimulus bill, but not to make it bigger just to get their vote.
Politically, it keeps a whole bunch of voters involved between election cycles.

What a load. Do you seriously think your group consensus after this stimulating little ongoing team exercise will result in "a hard look at some of the good ideas from the GOP". Are you seriously trying argue this or does it make you feel a tad less sheepish in declaring it so?

366 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:43:23pm

re: #357 albusteve

a month ago someone beat me up good for this same position...Fox is for the nuanced right...I'm not nuanced, they suck

I can 'get it' if they have people on to voice opinions. Am not into censure. What I don't 'get', is any form of tacit approval for opinions that have helped to wreck the GOP.

367 Ooh, look, shiny...  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:43:32pm

re: #358 rightymouse

Start with Red Scarf Girl. Red Scarf Girl is what is known as a primary document, because it was her real life.

368 oh_dude  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:43:46pm

re: #333 Render

Nice. Yeah Macs are more suited for the sitting in Starbucks, sipping late, hope & change, ain't I cool crowd.

369 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:43:47pm

re: #311 Charles

Guh.

That O'Reilly segment is a perfect illustration of the worst parts of the GOP. That is why Republicans have lost the last two elections.

That was a good part of it in my opinion. The choice of Palin was very divisive too. Say want you want about Obama, he ran a much more disciplined campaign, McCain never found one message and stayed on it. Obama rode the hope and change thing like a big dog.

370 slartybartfast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:43:48pm

Quick update from the frozen lands...

Here's a "live blog" of road closings and power outages in the KFVS-12 (CBS, Cape Girardeau) viewing area. From today's update:

Ozark Border in Poplar Bluff has 4700 homes without power. A spokesman says it's taking so long to restore power to their customers because that co-op lost 1000 poles. A main substation in Malden is down. They are telling customers to prepare for no power for up to four weeks, just in case, but they are hoping by late next week, most homes will have power.

Meanwhile, National death toll hits 55 in ice storm, 24 in KY.

And,...

Gov. Steve Beshear says he will ask President Barack Obama to declare a major disaster in Kentucky...The governor said the cost of cleanup now exceeds $45 million, the threshold for receiving a major disaster declaration, and is rising.

Mom (who's been w/o electricity since Tuesday a week ago), got a call today from the RNC--they were conducting a survey about the stimulus package. I'm pretty sure Mom shared her opinion on a couple of current issues...

371 FrogMarch  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:43:52pm

re: #300 Charles

O'Reilly can't possibly be trying to defend people like Pat Buchanan, Peter Brimelow, and Marcus Epstein, can he?

This is shameful.

O'Reilly is a light-weight. I would guess O'Reilly doesn't know any better. and if he does- shame on him.

372 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:44:43pm

re: #364 Lee Coller

I don't think they do. I'm always amazed at the number of people Pat Buchanan has snowed.

I'm working on unsnowing one. [Special thanks to Render on that front.]

373 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:44:55pm

And you grabbed on to the swinging b*lls for the ride ...

374 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:46:09pm

re: #371 FrogMarch

O'Reilly is a light-weight. I would guess O'Reilly doesn't know any better. and if he does- shame on him.

it's the money...tapping a new vein

375 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:46:14pm

re: #370 slartybartfast

Quick update from the frozen lands...

Here's a "live blog" of road closings and power outages in the KFVS-12 (CBS, Cape Girardeau) viewing area. From today's update:

Mom (who's been w/o electricity since Tuesday a week ago), got a call today from the RNC--they were conducting a survey about the stimulus package. I'm pretty sure Mom shared her opinion on a couple of current issues...

I'm sure she did, especially about having no current. My best to your mom. I hope she gave them hell.

376 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:47:00pm

re: #373 JacksonTn

And you grabbed on to the swinging b*lls for the ride ...

That comment was for someone but my browser is messing up ...I am going back to Safari ...my screen keeps jumping ...

377 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:47:05pm
378 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:47:29pm

Ok, thanks all on the info about Mary Katherine Ham (girl, loose the "Ham.")

379 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:47:42pm

re: #348 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Hey Hoosier!

You guys get up to 50 today? We sure didn't... I feel cheated. Thank G-d they can predict temps to a tenth of a degree 100 years from now, eh?

Last year the dailygalaxy release a scientific report on the year by year weather report for the next 100 years..
I just became (almost) unhinged and posted a lengthy post to Miss Sato..
After all if i had more that 30 hours notice that a foot of snow was coming last week i might have sauntered down to get Salt earlier..But half the time the weatherman is clueless...
/ I felt like a jackass when Chris told me that Rebecca hadn't written the article..she was just reporting it...

380 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:47:54pm

Before I gave up on Fox completely, I'd given up on bill and sean for pretty much the same reason- their little attack dog tactics are really unbecoming. It was embarrassing, and seems since I've left the fox news fold, it's gotten worse.

381 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:48:08pm

re: #360 ArmyWife

Avanti - I don't know if you are aware - I specialize in Labor Relations. This is my life. I know the movement, I know the thoughts. I've been pawed by the head of the AFL-CIO. I know the inner workings, and this is exactly what I said it was.

I won't disagree that it's similar to labor organizing, I was addressing the Commie plot inference.

382 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:48:27pm

re: #377 NYCHardhat

Yeah right!

Hardhat ...that song is still playing that you posted ...long song ...

383 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:48:41pm

re: #376 JacksonTn

That comment was for someone but my browser is messing up ...I am going back to Safari ...my screen keeps jumping ...

Mine does that too. Cut back on the whiskey after eight o'clock.

384 Wishing  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:49:25pm

re: #357 albusteve

a month ago someone beat me up good for this same position...Fox is for the nuanced right...I'm not nuanced, they suck

I think Fox is more for the nuanced LEFT.

385 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:49:29pm

re: #382 JacksonTn

Hardhat ...that song is still playing that you posted ...long song ...


it will be a long 4 years

386 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:49:33pm

re: #380 Sharmuta

Before I gave up on Fox completely, I'd given up on bill and sean for pretty much the same reason- their little attack dog tactics are really unbecoming. It was embarrassing, and seems since I've left the fox news fold, it's gotten worse.

there is no profit in dignity...the whores will do whatever it takes

387 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:49:38pm

re: #383 USBeast

Mine does that too. Cut back on the whiskey after eight o'clock.

Beast ! ...I am not drinking ...I swear ...

388 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:49:50pm

re: #379 HoosierHoops

lol.

Remember, you still have basketball to watch and I'm months away from anything that looks like baseball.

389 UberInfidel67  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:49:59pm

re: #381 avanti

Just curious: (This is probably not the correct terminology but..) What did you do in the Navy. I am not being snarky...just wondering : )

390 Racer X  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:50:05pm

How about Glenn Beck?

391 DEZes  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:50:12pm

re: #387 JacksonTn

Beast ! ...I am not drinking ...I swear ...


I swear when I drink too!
;)

392 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:50:25pm

re: #376 JacksonTn

That comment was for someone but my browser is messing up ...I am going back to Safari ...my screen keeps jumping ...

I think I know the target.

393 The Shadow Do  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:51:09pm

re: #353 Charles

Mary Katherine Ham. Juan Williams also co-signed on this one.

I wonder if they really know the backgrounds of the people they're carelessly putting their names on the line to defend?

I doubt it. Ill informed at best, not near as smart as they think at worst. Malevolent - I doubt it. Ignorant - No doubt. No excuse for this crap - for sure.

394 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:51:18pm

re: #379 HoosierHoops

Hoops! Once Paul Harvey's "Rest of the Story" did a thing on the "Farmer's Almanac". A typo showed a snow forecast in July.

Freak snow storm in July. All the sudden...it's a hit.

Weathermen are professional "guessers".

395 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:51:26pm

re: #390 Racer X

How about Glenn Beck?

Too much song and dance stuff... like listening to a morning DJ show...

396 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:51:29pm

re: #367 EmmmieG

Start with Red Scarf Girl. Red Scarf Girl is what is known as a primary document, because it was her real life.

There's also a good movie for folks to watch if they don't read books which is called 'To Live'. It has subtitles and it's about life under Mao.

I was born and raised in Thailand. Saw enough of the consequences of communism in neighboring countries to fill a lifetime. My Dad was born in China before WWII. Am very, very familiar with communist mentality and their forked tongue ways. And I will fight communism all my life.

397 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:51:37pm

re: #386 albusteve

there is no profit in dignity...the whores will do whatever it takes

The lunatics are running the asylum.

398 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:51:38pm
399 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:51:49pm

re: #382 JacksonTn

Hardhat ...that song is still playing that you posted ...long song ...

Yeah. Just under the 8 minute mark.

400 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:52:10pm

re: #384 Wishing

I think Fox is more for the nuanced LEFT.

I'm a leftie and watch Fox. It's entertaining, and the women are hot, but I take the news with a grain of salt.

401 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:52:26pm

re: #381 avanti

I won't disagree that it's similar to labor organizing, I was addressing the Commie plot inference.

How far with this community / home groups would I get when I can prove historically the Hoover / Roosevelt / Obama plan guarantees a depression, while the Coolidge / Kennedy / Reagan / Clinton / Bush plan will dig us out in 2 years?

Would I get thrown out on my ass or head, or would historical facts and economic reality make it into the plan?

402 Scion9  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:52:32pm

re: #291 USBeast

We already have a "better system". It's called the Constitution of the United States. The present disfunction of our government is the result of the deliberate sabotage of our Republic in favor of more "democracy". Senators used to be elected by state legislatures and that's just one example. There cries to do away with the Electoral College every election. We don't need a better system. We need to strip down to the system given us by the Founders.

There are actually examples of 'Progressives' pushing for and receiving less democracy as well; such as the Pendleton Act that replaced the Spoils System that gave a President a completely free hand to staff Washington with Party loyalists from top to bottom.

A 'nonpartisan' *cough* system was set up to award bureaucratic posts to applicants based on merit, like a regular job. Of course today, said 'nonpartisan' system staffs DC with 99% leftists.

So, it doesn't really matter what direction you go in, towards Democracy or away from it. The 'Progressive' is almost always on the winning side of 'reform'.

I personally, am of a mind that even the Constitution is fundamentally flawed. Communists point to the failure of the Soviet Union and say the populace was insufficiently revolutionary, and that the people failed the system. Saying that corrupt politicians warped the Constitution is the same kind of copout.

403 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:52:37pm

re: #396 rightymouse

There's also a good movie for folks to watch if they don't read books which is called 'To Live'. It has subtitles and it's about life under Mao.

I was born and raised in Thailand. Saw enough of the consequences of communism in neighboring countries to fill a lifetime. My Dad was born in China before WWII. Am very, very familiar with communist mentality and their forked tongue ways. And I will fight communism all my life.

I'm glad you are here with us.

404 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:52:46pm

re: #387 JacksonTn

Beast ! ...I am not drinking ...I swear ...

Put the bong down now. Hide your stash. In ten minutes you won't remember where you put it. Then try your browser again./

405 nyc redneck  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:52:49pm

re: #299 jcm

“Make no mistake, tax cheaters cheat us all, and the IRS should enforce our laws to the letter. ”

“I am deeply embarrassed and disappointed by the errors that required me to amend my tax returns, I apologize for the errors and profoundly regret that you have had to devote time to them.”

Was the first quote by some law and order conservative type?

Nope... by the same tax cheatin' sumabitch that said the second quote.

Tom "too important to pay taxes, but you little people will be prosecuted damnit" Daschle.

how abt. that ridiculous part: "disappointed by the errors that required me to amend my tax returns"
lol it is as if tax time came around and the numbers crunched themselves against his better judgment, or something.
"disappointed by the errors?"
this kind of b.s. is typical of libs who refuse to take responsibility for anything.

406 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:52:56pm
407 TheMatrix31  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:00pm

re: #341 NYCHardhat

This song has been going on in my head since Obama started.

Awesome song though.

408 Cathypop  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:02pm

The O may not be the brightest one but the people behind him are scary. OT where did the creasionists come from? Just got off the phone with my sister who is a raving lib and she is telling me that our cousin is a creasionsist and that creasionists are right wing idiots. Exlained to her that I am not a creationist but a right wing conservative. We got talking about what is behind this creasionism. I always try to follow the money but can't find it with this group. This yells Ayers and his thinking. Get people to think that the conservatives are lunatics?

409 gregg  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:14pm

Apparently, Sen. Judd Gregg has accepted the Commerce Secretary post. I guess you can't blame Obama for nominating him, because apparently he had run out of Democrats that have paid their taxes.

410 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:28pm

re: #407 TheMatrix31

Awesome song though.

Yes it is.

411 screaming_eagle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:36pm

re: #390 Racer X

How about Glenn Beck?

He was better back before he got into TV and started writing books.

412 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:46pm

re: #398 buzzsawmonkey

When you are content-free, it is very easy to stay on message.

Don't forget the question-free press that let's you get away with it...

413 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:53:57pm

re: #399 NYCHardhat

Yeah. Just under the 8 minute mark.

Don't make be post In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida...
(17 min)
/;-)

414 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:54:06pm

re: #400 avanti

I'm a leftie and watch Fox. It's entertaining, and the women are hot, but I take the news with a grain of salt.

If you're on a low-sodium diet, you are going to need to avoid CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, and PBS.

415 lawhawk  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:54:09pm

Hmmm... that didn't take long. They're again comparing Afghanistan to Vietnam, but this time with a twist. They're now saying Afghanistan is Obama's Vietnam.

Sadly, they could be right, especially if Obama caves to his leftist instincts and cuts and runs from Afghanistan instead of fighting to defeat the Taliban and al Qaeda there.

416 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:54:13pm

re: #400 avanti

I'm a leftie and watch Fox. It's entertaining, and the women are hot, but I take the news with a grain of salt.

You're a lefty? Well...blow me over with a feather.

417 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:54:37pm

re: #413 jcm

Don't make be post In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida...
(17 min)
/;-)

Do it!

And then I will post Echoes. Pink Floyd. 25 minutes.

418 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:54:48pm

re: #408 Cathypop

I always try to follow the money but can't find it with this group.

The Discovery Institute

419 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:54:49pm

re: #390 Racer X

How about Glenn Beck?

he needs you more than you need him...it's entertaining eh?...feed the beast with ratings

420 MandyManners  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:55:06pm

re: #416 rightymouse

You're a lefty? Well...blow me over with a feather.

Made me spit out my chocolate milk.

421 jaunte  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:55:38pm

re: #400 avanti

I'm a leftie

How do you define that?

422 Sharmuta  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:55:40pm

re: #408 Cathypop

Not to sound rude, but this has been discussed at length on ID threads.

423 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:55:42pm
424 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:55:58pm

re: #417 NYCHardhat

Do it!

And then I will post Echoes. Pink Floyd. 25 minutes.

Wouldn't be that much fun unless we can make everyone listen to the WHOLE THING!

;-)

425 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:56:07pm

re: #417 NYCHardhat

Do it!

And then I will post Echoes. Pink Floyd. 25 minutes.

FREEBIRD!

FREEBIRD!

/lighter

426 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:56:29pm

re: #408 Cathypop

The O may not be the brightest one but the people behind him are scary. OT where did the creasionists come from? Just got off the phone with my sister who is a raving lib and she is telling me that our cousin is a creasionsist and that creasionists are right wing idiots. Exlained to her that I am not a creationist but a right wing conservative. We got talking about what is behind this creasionism. I always try to follow the money but can't find it with this group. This yells Ayers and his thinking. Get people to think that the conservatives are lunatics?

What the hell is a creasionist? or is that a typo?

427 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:56:32pm

re: #390 Racer X

How about Glenn Beck?

My opinion. Fox (Murdock) keeps rotating new conservatives into his line up, as soon as the older conservative start jumping the shark. It's sort of a marketing plan to get you over to Fox, and then Murdock can throw what ever he like at you.

I don't know if that made much sense, but it's just a feeling I have, and I'm not clear on what I can call it.

428 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:56:56pm

re: #424 jcm

Wouldn't be that much fun unless we can make everyone listen to the WHOLE THING!

;-)

re: #425 OldLineTexan

FREEBIRD!

FREEBIRD!


I say we all get smashed and listen to tunes. Obama would want it that way.
/lighter

429 slartybartfast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:57:09pm

re: #409 gregg

Apparently, Sen. Judd Gregg has accepted the Commerce Secretary post. I guess you can't blame Obama for nominating him, because apparently he had run out of Democrats that have paid their taxes.

Heh. Obama Transition Team mimics Blazing Saddles:

Hedley Lamarr: "I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists."

430 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:57:13pm

re: #426 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

What the hell is a creasionist? or is that a typo?

A creasionist is a person that does not believe in steam irons.

431 Cathypop  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:57:17pm

re: #422 Sharmuta

Not to sound rude, but this has been discussed at length on ID threads.


I an aware of that but coming into contact with some one I thought I new is scarey.

432 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:57:27pm

re: #417 NYCHardhat

Do it!

And then I will post Echoes. Pink Floyd. 25 minutes.

Genesis: Supper's Ready (23 min)

433 The Hoopster  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:57:37pm

re: #380 Sharmuta

Before I gave up on Fox completely, I'd given up on bill and sean for pretty much the same reason- their little attack dog tactics are really unbecoming. It was embarrassing, and seems since I've left the fox news fold, it's gotten worse.

We win with ideas

434 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:57:44pm

re: #397 Sharmuta

The lunatics are running the asylum.

yes, but there are alternatives and they know it...one reason I think FOX has wavered...its the money, its a business not some unplundered, pure virgin institution...a pig with lipstick?...follow the money

435 DEZes  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:58:05pm

re: #430 OldLineTexan

A creasionist is a person that does not believe in steam irons.


I needed a good laugh, thanks.

436 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:58:09pm

re: #432 Bloodnok

Genesis: Supper's Ready (23 min)

Sleep's Dopesmoker weighs in over 61 minutes.

437 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:58:19pm

re: #398 buzzsawmonkey

When you are content-free, it is very easy to stay on message.

I agree, the package was a mystery, but the wrapping was all shiny and it worked. Now we get to see if he can deliver on the change thing.

438 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:58:27pm

re: #416 rightymouse

You're a lefty? Well...blow me over with a feather.

Gee, what was the first clue? The fact that he is dishonest and runs away like a fucking coward as soon as he gets called on unsupportable statements?

439 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:58:31pm

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

My opinion. Fox (Murdock) keeps rotating new conservatives into his line up, as soon as the older conservative start jumping the shark. It's sort of a marketing plan to get you over to Fox, and then Murdock can throw what ever he like at you.

I don't know if that made much sense, but it's just a feeling I have, and I'm not clear on what I can call it.

Murdoch.

Murdochery.

Murdouchery.

Mr

440 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:58:38pm

re: #417 NYCHardhat

I will post anything by David Hasselhoff if you do any of these things. This is not a threat, this is a promise.

441 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:58:42pm

re: #369 avanti

That was a good part of it in my opinion. The choice of Palin was very divisive too. Say want you want about Obama, he ran a much more disciplined campaign, McCain never found one message and stayed on it. Obama rode the hope and change thing like a big dog.

"Palin was divisive" is pretty close to troll territory, avanti. She energized the base and would have given McCain a fighting chance if he'd hadn't blown it over the TARP bill.

442 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:58:56pm

re: #400 avanti

I'm a leftie and watch Fox. It's entertaining, and the women are hot, but I take the news with a grain of salt.

you are part of the problem...

443 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:59:02pm

re: #440 ArmyWife

I will post anything by David Hasselhoff if you do any of these things. This is not a threat, this is a promise.

LMAO!

444 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:59:09pm

re: #437 avanti

He's delivering, all right. But the deliverable leaves much to be desired.

445 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:59:10pm

re: #432 Bloodnok

Genesis: Supper's Ready (23 min)

"Our Hitler" 8 hours (wait, that's a movie).

446 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:59:24pm

re: #430 OldLineTexan

A creasionist is a person that does not believe in steam irons.

How 'bout newfangled 'lectric ones?

447 NYCHardhat  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:59:29pm

re: #440 ArmyWife

I will post anything by David Hasselhoff if you do any of these things. This is not a threat, this is a promise.

That's fucked up. I promise not to do any of it.

448 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:59:38pm

re: #403 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'm glad you are here with us.


Thank you. That means a lot to me. :)

We are in an ideological war right now on several fronts.

And they all add up to totalitarian dictatorship - pick your flavor.

America needs to remain the home of the free.

449 Bloodnok  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 5:59:56pm

re: #440 ArmyWife

I will post anything by David Hasselhoff if you do any of these things. This is not a threat, this is a promise.



The Hoff

450 USBeast  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:00:02pm

re: #402 Scion9

There are actually examples of 'Progressives' pushing for and receiving less democracy as well; such as the Pendleton Act that replaced the Spoils System that gave a President a completely free hand to staff Washington with Party loyalists from top to bottom.

A 'nonpartisan' *cough* system was set up to award bureaucratic posts to applicants based on merit, like a regular job. Of course today, said 'nonpartisan' system staffs DC with 99% leftists.

So, it doesn't really matter what direction you go in, towards Democracy or away from it. The 'Progressive' is almost always on the winning side of 'reform'.

I personally, am of a mind that even the Constitution is fundamentally flawed. Communists point to the failure of the Soviet Union and say the populace was insufficiently revolutionary, and that the people failed the system. Saying that corrupt politicians warped the Constitution is the same kind of copout.

Of course the Constitution is "fundamentally flawed". People are fundamentally flawed and there is no system of government that can change that. The worst systems of government are those that attempt to force people to "reform" according to an ideology.

451 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:00:13pm

re: #447 NYCHardhat

And now you know why my husband will not fight with me. I play really, really dirty.

452 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:00:14pm

re: #428 NYCHardhat

I can be drunker'n a skunk by the end of Green Grass and High Tides. Where's Mandy? Let's get out Basil, I think he's Hayden!

453 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:00:23pm

re: #437 avanti

I agree, the package was a mystery, but the wrapping was all shiny and it worked. Now we get to see if he can deliver on the change thing.

Still waiting to find out change to what?

/not all change is good.

454 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:00:34pm

re: #449 Bloodnok

100 pounds ago!

455 screaming_eagle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:00:58pm

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

My opinion. Fox (Murdock) keeps rotating new conservatives into his line up, as soon as the older conservative start jumping the shark. It's sort of a marketing plan to get you over to Fox, and then Murdock can throw what ever he like at you.

I don't know if that made much sense, but it's just a feeling I have, and I'm not clear on what I can call it.


FOX is not full of conservatives. The MSM is so far left it just seems like it. Besides FOX plays the same monkey see monkey do as all the MSM.

456 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:01:09pm

re: #437 avanti

I agree, the package was a mystery, but the wrapping was all shiny and it worked. Now we get to see if he can deliver on the change thing.

The package is not mystery. He Obama told us...
Dunham.
Davis.
Obama Sr.
Alinsky.
Ayers.
Wright.
His language.
His plans.

457 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:01:36pm

re: #437 avanti

I agree, the package was a mystery, but the wrapping was all shiny and it worked. Now we get to see if he can deliver on the change thing.

Baby, if you gotta ask, you ain't been payin' attention.

458 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:01:52pm

re: #430 OldLineTexan

A creasionist is a person that does not believe in steam irons.

Hot rocks in the fire...
Damn straight!

459 ArmyWife  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:01:55pm

re: #452 OldLineTexan

Apparently Tuesday has been canceled. 2nd Pom Martini just arrived via husband. My spidey sense is telling me ulterior motives are at play here.

460 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:02:12pm
461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:02:23pm

re: #421 jaunte

How do you define that?

I can help. The first night that I saw him, Avanti was telling us how he voted for Obama, but was afraid that some of the voters may actually expect him to follow up on the totally unreasonably unrealistic promises that he made.

That is the definition of an (IMHO) Obama leftie. Lies are fine. If they get you what you want.

How's that.

462 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:02:48pm

re: #447 NYCHardhat

That's fucked up. I promise not to do any of it.

I DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS!
/

463 JacksonTn  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:02:56pm

re: #456 jcm

The package is not mystery. He Obama told us...
Dunham.
Davis.
Obama Sr.
Alinsky.
Ayers.
Wright.
His language.
His plans.

JCM ...we had this conversation with him late one night a couple weeks ago ..don't you remember? ...

464 TheMatrix31  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:03:03pm

re: #440 ArmyWife

I will post anything by David Hasselhoff if you do any of these things. This is not a threat, this is a promise.

He has come into the Baskin I work at on multiple occasions.

465 albusteve  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:04:14pm

re: #462 OldLineTexan

I DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS!
/

I DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH LIBERALS!...

466 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:04:17pm

re: #438 Walter L. Newton

Gee, what was the first clue? The fact that he is dishonest and runs away like a fucking coward as soon as he gets called on unsupportable statements?


I forgot my sarc tag. Sorry.

467 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:04:30pm

re: #459 ArmyWife

Apparently Tuesday has been canceled. 2nd Pom Martini just arrived via husband. My spidey sense is telling me ulterior motives are at play here.

If you start typing funny, I will understand.

468 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:05:13pm

re: #466 rightymouse

I forgot my sarc tag. Sorry.

No, no, no, no... I wasn't ragging on you, I was just team tagging and adding on to your statement. Sorry for the confusion. You were spot on.

469 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:05:17pm

re: #401 jcm

How far with this community / home groups would I get when I can prove historically the Hoover / Roosevelt / Obama plan guarantees a depression, while the Coolidge / Kennedy / Reagan / Clinton / Bush plan will dig us out in 2 years?

Would I get thrown out on my ass or head, or would historical facts and economic reality make it into the plan?

If the GOP believes that, then they need to push to rework the stimulus bill. He could ram it though without the GOP, but he wants that bipartisan thing, so let your congressman know. That is unless you think having a input in the process is a leftie thing. BTW, there are things I don.t like in the bill, and let the administration know.

If it passes as is, without GOP support and fails, the GOP will be golden in 2010, if it works, bad news next cycle.

470 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:05:19pm

re: #463 JacksonTn

JCM ...we had this conversation with him late one night a couple weeks ago ..don't you remember? ...

LOL! Yeah, I know... I'm an optimist, maybe after enough whacks with the clue bat...

471 OldLineTexan  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:05:27pm

re: #465 albusteve

I DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH LIBERALS!...

/drains bottle and smashes it on bar

WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?

472 jcm  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:07:27pm

re: #469 avanti

If the GOP believes that, then they need to push to rework the stimulus bill. He could ram it though without the GOP, but he wants that bipartisan thing, so let your congressman know. That is unless you think having a input in the process is a leftie thing. BTW, there are things I don.t like in the bill, and let the administration know.

If it passes as is, without GOP support and fails, the GOP will be golden in 2010, if it works, bad news next cycle.

Don't worry my congress critters are on speed dial.
The house (R)s came through. But we got those F'in RINOs in the Senate.

473 Marvo76  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:07:30pm

re: #311 Charles

Charles, is there an alterantive? I know what folks think of the Constitution party ( too religious) and the libertarians ( to druggy) so what would you suggest since the GOP seems out to lunch on conservatism?

474 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:08:41pm

re: #437 avanti

I agree, the package was a mystery, but the wrapping was all shiny and it worked. Now we get to see if he can deliver on the change thing.

And there were enough doofus voter morons like you who wanted a prezzie under the tree without having any clue what was inside, nor did you care. HOPE you get to CHANGE your mind.

475 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:09:42pm

re: #441 Dark_Falcon

"Palin was divisive" is pretty close to troll territory, avanti. She energized the base and would have given McCain a fighting chance if he'd hadn't blown it over the TARP bill.

Just look at her level of support outside the base to see that she was divisive, much as Hillary was the other way. It's not trolling to state a fact. No she was not divisive to the base, they loved her and did excite the GOP.

476 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:10:15pm

re: #469 avanti

If the GOP believes that, then they need to push to rework the stimulus bill. He could ram it though without the GOP, but he wants that bipartisan thing, so let your congressman know. That is unless you think having a input in the process is a leftie thing. BTW, there are things I don.t like in the bill, and let the administration know.

If it passes as is, without GOP support and fails, the GOP will be golden in 2010, if it works, bad news next cycle.

It'll likely fail at turning the econmy around but if don't act wisely it'll succeed in funneling a lot of money to Democrat support groups, who will then pass some the money back to the Dems. In essence, Obama is planning to fund his party with our money.

477 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:10:37pm

re: #468 Walter L. Newton

No, no, no, no... I wasn't ragging on you, I was just team tagging and adding on to your statement. Sorry for the confusion. You were spot on.

Okay. No problem. Was red-faced for a minute there. Aaaackkk!

478 Marvo76  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:10:55pm

re: #312 Walter L. Newton

We have a similar person hitting "the electric campfire" where a bunch of former "Ted Nugent Talkback" folks started a friends type site without Ted's crap. Pro Osiah, anti Israeli, and beats Bush like a dead horse...I just wonder if they all have a a collective they work for, trying to destabilize folks by getting them disgusted and spouting things that might come back to haunt them...

479 TheMatrix31  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:12:01pm

re: #475 avanti

Just look at her level of support outside the base to see that she was divisive, much as Hillary was the other way. It's not trolling to state a fact. No she was not divisive to the base, they loved her and did excite the GOP.

If it wasn't for Palin, McCain would have lost worse than he did.

McCain was the divisive figure, not Palin.

480 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:12:21pm

re: #472 jcm

Don't worry my congress critters are on speed dial.
The house (R)s came through. But we got those F'in RINOs in the Senate.

I'm glad to see they are not rolling over, even if they don't have the votes, they can call attention to the bills flaws.

481 screaming_eagle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:12:55pm

re: #475 avanti

Just look at her level of support outside the base to see that she was divisive, much as Hillary was the other way. It's not trolling to state a fact. No she was not divisive to the base, they loved her and did excite the GOP.

Don't you need your base to win?

Just asking.

482 jaunte  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:14:20pm

"Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE), who sits on the Senate Appropriations Committee, told FOX News on Monday that he wants to strip "tens of billions" of dollars from the economic stimulus proposal, rejecting the White House claim that senators are complaining about just a tiny fraction of the package."
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

483 Kenneth  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:14:37pm

Claudia Rossett: The UN Is Absolutely Corrupt

Read it and weep: Oil for Food Scam, Cash for Kim and now UNRWA in Gaza:

Rossett deems the UNRWA system as a “veritable welfare enclave for terrorists.” She noted that the UNRWA schools in Gaza, “engaged in teaching children how to become suicide bombers and making Israel a constant anti-Semitic scapegoat marked for destruction.”

Into this system flows an annual UNRWA budget now well above $400 million per year, doled out variously in the form of cash, goods, medical care, schooling, job-training programs and so forth. [The U.S. funds 31 percent of the annual UNRWA budget, while Muslim states fund less than 7 percent.]

To handle these operations, UNRWA employs more than 24,000 staffers [including many members of terrorist groups Hamas and the PIJ]. That's more than any other UN agency, including the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, or UNHCR, which with some 6,300 staffers--about one-quarter the manpower of UNRWA--is responsible for all other refugees worldwide, totaling more than 11 million.

At UNRWA, more than 99% of the staff is local Palestinians. They sit at the many local levels of the UNRWA distribution machinery, which under UNRWA policy takes on the coloration of and yields to the policies of host governments--as UNRWA officials explained to U.S. lawmakers who some years ago challenged the use of anti-Israeli textbooks in UNRWA schools.
The reason for Gaza's endless youth bulge is that a large majority of its population does not have to provide for its offspring. Most babies are fed, clothed, vaccinated and educated by UNRWA. Unlike the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, which deals with the rest of the world's refugees and aims to settle them in their respective host countries, UNRWA perpetuates the Palestinian problem by classifying as refugees not only those who originally fled their homes, but all of their descendants as well.

In such "youth bulge" countries, young men tend to eliminate each other or get killed in aggressive wars until a balance is reached between their ambitions and the number of acceptable positions available in their society. In Arab nations such as Lebanon (150,000 dead in the civil war between 1975 and 1990) or Algeria (200,000 dead in the Islamists' war against their own people between 1999 and 2006), the slaughter abated only when the fertility rates in these countries fell from seven children per woman to fewer than two.

No, I do not expect the new administration to do anything to reform UNRWA. On the contrary, I think the plans to push more "diplomacy" with Iran are going to make a dangerous situation much worse, and the last thing on the agenda is likely to be genuine reform of anything at the UN. Even John Bolton, who really tried, could barely move that ball.

484 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:15:15pm

re: #475 avanti

Just look at her level of support outside the base to see that she was divisive, much as Hillary was the other way. It's not trolling to state a fact. No she was not divisive to the base, they loved her and did excite the GOP.

Again. Obfuscate much? Can you even write a coherent paragraph that hangs together, sentence to sentence? Read your first sentence and then read the last one.

Yes, you are a troll.

485 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:15:43pm

re: #479 TheMatrix31

If it wasn't for Palin, McCain would have lost worse than he did.

McCain was the divisive figure, not Palin.

You got that straight.

486 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:16:58pm

re: #478 Marvo76

We have a similar person hitting "the electric campfire" where a bunch of former "Ted Nugent Talkback" folks started a friends type site without Ted's crap. Pro Osiah, anti Israeli, and beats Bush like a dead horse...I just wonder if they all have a a collective they work for, trying to destabilize folks by getting them disgusted and spouting things that might come back to haunt them...

I don't say anything that I won't stand up for. If I say it, I mean it.

487 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:17:10pm

re: #481 screaming_eagle

Don't you need your base to win?

Just asking.

Yes, but the GOP base is now smaller, and you need crossover votes and the independents to win. There are less then 10 states with a GOP majority now, so you need some lefties to win.

488 TheMatrix31  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:18:50pm

re: #487 avanti

Yes, but the GOP base is now smaller, and you need crossover votes and the independents to win. There are less then 10 states with a GOP majority now, so you need some lefties to win.

Oh, you mean like McCain? Yeah, he certainly helped out our cause there!

489 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:20:25pm

re: #479 TheMatrix31

If it wasn't for Palin, McCain would have lost worse than he did.

McCain was the divisive figure, not Palin.

In the spirit of compromise, let me propose that McCain was divisive, and Palin was divisive.

McCain was the reason a lot of Republican voters stayed home, because he is perceived as being a RINO.
Palin did not attract the female vote, but did generate Misogyny, largely from female voters.

Both were divisive. The party as a whole (not the base) wouldn't settle for less than perfection. At this point, I don't know what perfection looks like.

490 Marvo76  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:20:30pm

re: #486 Walter L. Newton

I know you do, I have read your stuff for a while now, I am speaking of those who are coming in and trying to "convert" by their constant hammering on stuff, changing the argument and shifting directions every time you try to pin them down on one point...

491 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:21:41pm

re: #487 avanti

Yes, but the GOP base is now smaller, and you need crossover votes and the independents to win. There are less then 10 states with a GOP majority now, so you need some lefties to win.

The key is to convert moderates over to our side. If we move left, we become irrelevant. We need to showcase clear, workable alternative to Obama's proposals and then promote these ideas. That is how we won in 1994, that is how we can win again!

492 Marvo76  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:22:17pm

re: #489 jwb7605

Palin was at least more platable to the conservative base, only running off the "neocon's" who believed Bush wasn't far enough to the left...

493 screaming_eagle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:22:38pm

re: #487 avanti

Yes, but the GOP base is now smaller, and you need crossover votes and the independents to win. There are less then 10 states with a GOP majority now, so you need some lefties to win.


No the GOP base is not smaller. It sick of all the Mickey Mouse Bullshit. Problem is the are people who will listen to the left tell them whats best for the party. Then lo and behold they piss there base off and they loose.

494 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:23:14pm

re: #216 BBev

I would never make it in one of those re-education camps. They would kill me on day one.

I'd never make it either. But then, they'd have to find me first.

495 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:24:08pm

re: #492 Marvo76

Palin was at least more platable to the conservative base, only running off the "neocon's" who believed Bush wasn't far enough to the left...

You've got that right.
As far as McCain, read the first 10-12 comments on the thread upstairs.

496 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:26:32pm

re: #493 screaming_eagle

No the GOP base is not smaller. It sick of all the Mickey Mouse Bullshit. Problem is the are people who will listen to the left tell them whats best for the party. Then lo and behold they piss there base off and they loose.


Amen!

Am sick and tired of liberals telling me that conservatives need to be more centrist.

Am also sick and tired of mealy-mouthed RINOs.

497 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:26:41pm

re: #488 TheMatrix31

Oh, you mean like McCain? Yeah, he certainly helped out our cause there!

Wish I could help with a idea there, but you just touched on what I see as your Catch 22. If you move left for votes, you lose the base, move to the right to keep the base happy and lose the election. I am interested to see what direction Steele takes the party, he's pretty moderate.

498 screaming_eagle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:30:27pm

Why would you vote for a wishy-washy Rep when there are so many Dems to choose from?

499 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:32:13pm

re: #489 jwb7605

Both were divisive. The party as a whole (not the base) wouldn't settle for less than perfection. At this point, I don't know what perfection looks like.

Any idea's if Steele does ? He's got a bit of star appeal, was liked my both sides here in Md, and seems bright, maybe he'll pick a few winners for the GOP.

500 Marvo76  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:32:20pm

There ought to be some kind of ground floor for the republican platform that would make the conservative base happy, Smaller government and stricter adherence to the constitution would help...

501 jwb7605  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:34:11pm

re: #499 avanti

Any idea's if Steele does ? He's got a bit of star appeal, was liked my both sides here in Md, and seems bright, maybe he'll pick a few winners for the GOP.

He seems to be unlike anything the Republicans have picked for several years. That may or may not be a good thing. I don't see how it can be much worse than it's been recently.

502 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:34:43pm

re: #500 Marvo76

There ought to be some kind of ground floor for the republican platform that would make the conservative base happy, Smaller government and stricter adherence to the constitution would help...

That's a winner in my book. Adhere to the Constitution, period.

Smaller government will follow automatically.

503 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:40:32pm

re: #420 MandyManners

Made me spit out my chocolate milk.

He/she/it ain't worth it.

504 loggiedog  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:42:21pm

I was expecting to see something silly like "you need to activate windows" or some windows genuine advantage jokes

505 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:44:13pm

re: #493 screaming_eagle

No the GOP base is not smaller. It sick of all the Mickey Mouse Bullshit. Problem is the are people who will listen to the left tell them whats best for the party. Then lo and behold they piss there base off and they loose.

If the base is not smaller, then you have do not have a problem, but the voter registration figures only showed a GOP lead in maybe 8 or 9 states in 2008.

506 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:44:18pm

re: #497 avanti

Wish I could help with a idea there, but you just touched on what I see as your Catch 22. If you move left for votes, you lose the base, move to the right to keep the base happy and lose the election. I am interested to see what direction Steele takes the party, he's pretty moderate.


Tell you what we're going to do. We're going to start dictating the direction of the Democrat party. And it's going to start with pounding on the hypocrisy of you lefty types.

Because when we start to do that and people get a clue, you will lose.

Steele is not a moderate. You wish.

507 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:46:37pm

re: #505 avanti

If the base is not smaller, then you have do not have a problem, but the voter registration figures only showed a GOP lead in maybe 8 or 9 states in 2008.

Can you spell "A.C.O.R.N."?

508 [deleted]  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:46:42pm
509 screaming_eagle  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:50:46pm

re: #505 avanti

If the base is not smaller, then you have do not have a problem, but the voter registration figures only showed a GOP lead in maybe 8 or 9 states in 2008.

Elections are not based on registration , the are based on VOTES. I know Obama wants to change that.

510 Scion9  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:51:24pm

re: #450 USBeast

Of course the Constitution is "fundamentally flawed". People are fundamentally flawed and there is no system of government that can change that. The worst systems of government are those that attempt to force people to "reform" according to an ideology.

Our form of Democracy does just that in my opinion. Public opinion is driven by public education, 'private' colleges, mass media, etc. Anyone who is involved in politics or journalism has gone through higher education, primarily ivy league, which despite being allegedly independent outfits are nearly completely uniform in their legal and business departments, social and other soft 'sciences' that don't lean heavily enough on empiricism to warrant such conformity of thought.

Those who run the government, and those who control our most powerful cultural institutions are drinking from the same fetid pool. Their isn't any fresh water in that swamp and there isn't any way to pump enough into it to dilute the sludge.

There is an acceptable range of political discourse and those that fall out of it are about as relevant as a labeled heretic in the Massachusetts Bay Colony or Calvinist Geneva.

I'm too tired to sit and get in a protracted argument about the Constitution, but by 'fundamentally flawed' I don't mean that it is so because it was written by men. I mean that it is so because it was written by men that failed to see the failings of their own culture and its history of enforcing consent in the public square, and that their lofty ideals about the nature of democratic politics in general were often wrong.

511 rightymouse  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 6:59:51pm

re: #510 Scion9

There is nothing wrong with our Constitution.

One of the reasons that it could be done here was because there was no established government at the time to threaten established civil servant life, i.e. those cushy, no accountability lives that meander through time, regardless of who is in temporary power.

America was, and is, unique.

Am off to watch some '24'.

G'night.

512 Scion9  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:04:17pm

re: #511 rightymouse


There is nothing wrong with our Constitution.

I have a Washington DC, circa 2009 that says otherwise.

Also, there certainly was an established government in the Colonies, with plenty of artifacts of the past like British Common Law and separation of powers that the Constitution was based upon. It wasn't Tabula Rasa.

513 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:05:49pm

re: #508 buzzsawmonkey

A second comment on this. It takes a bizarre sort of pride to pat yourself on the back for buying a pig in a poke.

Did you ever watch "Let's Make a Deal"? Do you recall how many times Monty Hall managed to con a hysterical contestant into accepting a shiny package which contained something worthless? Why would you be preening yourself over having fallen for this transparent dodge--and having stuck the rest of the country with it?

That was a bit tongue in cheek. I did decide, as many did to take a risk with the candidate with less experience over McCain. Yes, that did involve some hope for a change over more of the same.

514 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:09:41pm

re: #513 avanti

That was a bit tongue in cheek. I did decide, as many did to take a risk with the candidate with less experience over McCain. Yes, that did involve some hope for a change over more of the same.

It was a foolish risk you took, and we're all going to pay for it. How could you vote for Obama? What were you thinking?!

515 avanti  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:10:12pm

re: #506 rightymouse

Tell you what we're going to do. We're going to start dictating the direction of the Democrat party. And it's going to start with pounding on the hypocrisy of you lefty types.

Because when we start to do that and people get a clue, you will lose.

Steele is not a moderate. You wish.

OK, well he was a moderate here in Maryland and he opposes amending the constitution to ban gay marriage for example.

516 davemanus  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:25:22pm

ugh. Smacks of Apple elitism. It's fashionable and cool I guess to bash PC, but Windows, hate it though it's de riguer to do, has probably changed more lives than any innovation of the past 50 years. It's made the computer accessable to the masses, and by a huge margin over Apple. I've owned both, and for the outrageous pricetag, Apple ain't all that. In fact, if they cost the _same_ I'd have a PC. Not only are half my games not playable on a Mac, a good deal of my fav progs aren't either. Then there's the insufferable asininity of Apple fanatics. I wouldn't have one for the same reason I wouldn't drive a Prius if one was GIVEN to me; the vast majority of them love the smell of their own farts.

Plus, I like getting into the nuts and bolts of programs, and Apple is just not friendly to people who like to edit ini files and and hack around with progs and files.

To me, they stink of Crocs and Starbucks and Obama-worship and all the other metro-sexual and leftist elitist crap that sickens me. I wouldn't date a guy if I found out he used a Mac, that's how revolting I find them.

517 uptight  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:34:15pm

I had a Mac - it was white with white keys, that changed colour after a few weeks.

I had a Mac - it had a nice OS that children & beginners won't get flustered by. Except I'm not a child or a beginner and I found it frustrating the same way that an automatic gearbox can be.

I had a Mac - I installed Vista on it, because nobody made software that would run native on its intel chipset

I had a Mac - it got hot enough to fry an egg

I had a Mac - I sent it Bac

518 SuaSponte  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:50:51pm

Wow, it took a room full of Mac Pros to kick the ass of that little laptop PC.

519 Pythagoras  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 7:51:13pm

Sorry to change the topic but. . .

I think the MAC vs PC video is a fake. Seeing the laptops transform into robots stretches credibility but seeing the PC upgrade and keep on running (without spending hours on hold with tech support) is just plain ridiculous.

No way.

520 Al in St. Lou  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:11:17pm

re: #500 Marvo76

There ought to be some kind of ground floor for the republican platform that would make the conservative base happy, Smaller government and stricter adherence to the constitution would help...

You would think planks like that would form the basis of the party platform.

521 Al in St. Lou  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:17:08pm

At home, when I needed to log into the two Unix servers I was responsible for at work, I just opened a command window on my Mac and used the "ssh" command. This was after the IT department had tried to explain to me what applications existed that could be installed on a Wintel box to be able to connect to the Unix servers remotely. All four computers I've bought for my home were Macs. They do everything, and they network well.

522 Al in St. Lou  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:17:39pm

re: #519 Pythagoras

Sorry to change the topic but. . .

I think the MAC vs PC video is a fake. Seeing the laptops transform into robots stretches credibility but seeing the PC upgrade and keep on running (without spending hours on hold with tech support) is just plain ridiculous.

No way.

LOL

523 elchimpy  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:42:47pm

Isn't that what PCs are trying to do with Macs? A massed assault? Whatever, the cool factor transcends Blue Screen any day of the week. . .

524 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Feb 2, 2009 8:43:15pm

Charles -

For What It Is Worth - Liked the Idea of the THREE applets coming after "Win-Doze." In the real world, the MATH goes the other way. Last Summer, 2008, my boss bought one Apple Pro 15" Laptop for his daughter who need it for some graphics applications.
For the same money, he also paid for two (2) Vista Based 16" and 17" laptops plus an XP Based Desktop ("Monitor Extra") along with a Brother HL-2140 B+W Laser Printer, a Lexmark X-2690 AIO Printer and D-Link .g Router/Hub as throw ins.
Seems to me at those economics either A. Apple is reaping "windfall profits" - and IF they are - Good For Them - OR - B. Apple/Mac is THREE TIMES AS GOOD for the AVERAGE computer user - Don't THINK SO. To me "MAC-ism" is the Racism of the Cyber World. Mac runs a number of Graphics Programs better than Windows. Windows runs some Business Programs better than Mac.
Sounds almost HUMAN to me. Discussion?

-S-

525 DPolwarth  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 3:00:22am

It took me a while to get the ending - The Macs join together to beat the PC, thereby winning the battle.

Then the PC, in his last breath, tells all other PCs to transform into fighting machines. Hence the Mac is doomed (only about 10% of computers are Macs), thereby reversing the ganging-up advantage.

Clever. PCs win by sheer weight of numbers.

526 NCusTranshumanist  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 8:56:07am

I don't care which system architecture/OS you like, that's funny right there.

Of course, I look at my room full of computer and game systems, blackberry, DVR and stuff, and can't help but be a little nervous. I just have to make sure to be equally nice to all of them. Last thing I need is my Wii (oldest), PS3 (middle) and x360 (youngest) getting into a 3-way brawl.

527 NCusTranshumanist  Tue, Feb 3, 2009 9:00:30am

I guess if our household electronics were transformers, a VCR would be the Kup of the group. Unless you have a dot-matrix printer around.


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