Hope is an Iranian missile.

re: #1 Peacekeeper

Hope is an Iranian missile.

. . .falling back upon its launcher

Change is an Iranian missile with nuclear warhead that blows up on the pad and takes out all the techies responsible for its construction and operation. /

The hills are alive with patriotic democrats paying their taxes. And lowering their thermostat because the world would like it if we keep it at 72.

re: #1 Peacekeeper

Hope is an Iranian missile.

Change is it coming down...

Obama's determined to hit my brown note.

I'm not even trusting a fart today.

I think I should pull all of my money out of my 401k...

I was hoping for a Tom Dashle thread, but this will do... a bit of a history lesson:

Al Capone was sentenced to 11 years in federal prison in 1931, not for racketeering, not for multiple gruesome murders, not for bootlegging. He was convicted only for tax evasion. He was also fined $50,000 and charged $7,692 for court costs, in addition to the $215,000 plus interest due in back taxes.

"Vote early and vote often."
- Al Capone

re: #7 NYCHardhat

I think I should pull all of my money out of my 401k...

You have any left?

Cake!

re: #9 nevergiveup

You have any left?

Oh yeah...whats left of it.

re: #7 NYCHardhat

Roll into an (Roth?) IRA and only use what you need - at least thats what I heard.

The Obama WH releases statement that launch of Iranian Rocket is not nice.

Only nine more days to the 200th anniversary of February 12, 1809!

Two of the most important people in history were born on that exact day, at nearly the exact same moment.

Name them.

FWIW, "change" is تغییربدهید in Farsi.

re: #12 Creeping Eruption

Roll into an (Roth?) IRA and only use what you need - at least thats what I heard.

I'm thinking of living it up until the nukes start dropping.

Can 0bama save all of those GM workers who've been asked to leave their job by Mr 24th or lose the $20,000 payout plus $25,000 auto (GM auto) voucher?

re: #7 NYCHardhat

I think I should pull all of my money out of my 401k...

I have a friend who did that. She paid off her new car note and her credit card and put a little away in a CD. She is 58 and there is no way she would ever make up what she lost before she dies. She did not have alot, but her plan was to give the kids a couple of hundred a month to help out when she hit 62. No way that is going to happen for her now.

re: #14 zombie

Only nine more days to the 200th anniversary of February 12, 1809!

Two of the most important people in history were born on that exact day, at nearly the exact same moment.

Name them.

Lincoln and Obama?

It's the long anticipated and coveted ancestral mid-day thread...

re: #8 Yankee Division Son

I was hoping for a Tom Dashle thread, but this will do... a bit of a history lesson:

Al Capone was sentenced to 11 years in federal prison in 1931, not for racketeering, not for multiple gruesome murders, not for bootlegging. He was convicted only for tax evasion. He was also fined $50,000 and charged $7,692 for court costs, in addition to the $215,000 plus interest due in back taxes.

"Vote early and vote often."
- Al Capone

And now tax evasion just means you are qualified for government service.

Hope isn't a town in Kentucky, evidently. Some people here are being told they won't have their power restored until March. My parents haven't had power in over a week. It's going down to 15 degrees tonight. Where's Obama?! Oh...almost forgot...Kentucky voted for McCain. No pay. No play.

And to think that Obama's thanking the freakin' United Nations for the successful Iraqi vote. My head hurts.

I am just pissed all the way around.

re: #3 lawhawk

You remember the "Scud that was a dud" in Syria a while back. Hope.

re: #19 NYCHardhat

Lincoln and Obama?

Is Obama that old?
/

re: #14 zombie

Only nine more days to the 200th anniversary of February 12, 1809!

Two of the most important people in history were born on that exact day, at nearly the exact same moment.

Name them.

Lincoln & Darwin

re: #14 zombie

Only nine more days to the 200th anniversary of February 12, 1809!

Two of the most important people in history were born on that exact day, at nearly the exact same moment.

Name them.

Don't know, but they were Pisces like me!

re: #10 Killgore Trout
My fav Cake tune:

re: #19 NYCHardhat

Lincoln and Obama?

That is so messed up that I had to upding the comment!

re: #19 NYCHardhat

Lincoln and Obama?

Close.

re: #14 zombie

Only nine more days to the 200th anniversary of February 12, 1809!

Two of the most important people in history were born on that exact day, at nearly the exact same moment.

Name them.

Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin

re: #14 zombie

Only nine more days to the 200th anniversary of February 12, 1809!

Two of the most important people in history were born on that exact day, at nearly the exact same moment.

Name them.

Lincoln and Darwin?

re: #24 snuffyword

Is Obama that old?
/

Yes. He is the Messiah.

Do I need to add a ///?

re: #22 obscured by clouds

Hope isn't a town in Kentucky, evidently. Some people here are being told they won't have their power restored until March. My parents haven't had power in over a week. It's going down to 15 degrees tonight. Where's Obama?! Oh...almost forgot...Kentucky voted for McCain. No pay. No play.

And to think that Obama's thanking the freakin' United Nations for the successful Iraqi vote. My head hurts.

I am just pissed all the way around.

Are the alligators eating the survivors yet?

re: #26 turn

Don't know, but they were Pisces like me!

Pisces are the best.

re: #16 NYCHardhat

I'm thinking of living it up until the nukes start dropping.

Silly me. What was I thinking?

re: #34 NYCHardhat

Pisces are the best.

Ditto

re: #22 obscured by clouds

Some people here are being told they won't have their power restored until March.

But Bush didn't help the people in New Orleans for hours and hours! It was much worse!

/sarc

re: #34 NYCHardhat

Pisces are the best.

I love Reeses Pisces

re: #24 snuffyword

Is Obama that old?
/

Obama is the Highlander

I wish people would lay off of Tom Dashle for a moment, and understand just how helpful he was in the fight against the Muslim Brotherhood.

While investigating a story, I discovered that Tom was key to preventing a secret Ikhwanist from infiltrating a national anti-terrorist panel. He asked for no publicity, but as an indirect result, the LA Times took a disgusting revenge against the LA Jewish community.

UN backtracks on claim that deadly IDF strike hit Gaza school

The United Nations has reversed its stance on one of the most contentious and bloody incidents of the recent Israel Defense Forces operation in Gaza, saying that an IDF mortar strike that killed 43 people on January 6 did not hit one of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency schools after all.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

I'm sure CNN will correct and apologize.

re: #34 NYCHardhat

Pisces are the best.

I don't believe the least in that shit but know what? My closest friends have all been Pices, no kidding.

re: #24 snuffyword

Is Obama that old?
/

Don't you know the O transcends age? Once you grasp the "We are the ones we've been waiting for" the rest is easy.

re: #36 LGoPs

Ditto

Bull!
(Taurus here ...)

re: #36 LGoPs

Ditto

2/22 for me.

re: #26 turn

Don't know, but they were Pisces like me!

Feb 12th isn't Pisces. It is Aquarius.

re: #39 Alouette

Obama is the Highlander

There can be only The One?

re: #22 obscured by clouds

Posted a link on the earlier thread where the Governor of Ky is still asking ABummer to declare Ky a major disaster area. Arkansas and Missouri got their declaration. Where is the press? Oh, I forgot, they are still on their knees in total adoration and covering tax frauds in Washington. Dead white people don't make for as nice pictures as floating dead black people. /color me very cynical.

re: #39 Alouette

Obama is the Highlander

Well, "there can only be one"!

re: #26 turn

Don't know, but they were Pisces like me!

Pisces rock! I'm a Pisces! March 19 is the birthday!

re: #14 zombie

Only nine more days to the 200th anniversary of February 12, 1809!

Two of the most important people in history were born on that exact day, at nearly the exact same moment.

Name them.

Well, Abraham Lincoln was one ...

re: #14 zombie

Lincoln & Darwin?

re: #37 Silhouette

But Bush didn't help the people in New Orleans for hours and hours! It was much worse!

/sarc

Use minutes...it was thousands of minutes. Much more dramatic...

re: #50 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Pisces rock! I'm a Pisces! March 19 is the birthday!

Me too, 17th here, everyone is always shoving green beer at me, and I don't drink!

re: #39 Alouette

Obama is the Highlander

That implies he'll fight. I have my doubts.

re: #50 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Pisces rock! I'm a Pisces! March 19 is the birthday!

Give Pisces a chance, man.

re: #22 obscured by clouds

The man came close to claiming credit for the vote.

I have noticed that the media is suddenly mostly silent on bashing Bush for things, especially Katrina. Wonder why that is.

re: #45 NYCHardhat

2/22 for me.

3/9 for me...

re: #47 scottishbuzzsaw

Doh, you beat me to it.

Today is the 200th anniversary of Felix Mendelssohn's birth.

re: #46 Silhouette

Feb 12th isn't Pisces. It is Aquarius.

Oh shit, I was afraid I might get corrected on that. Shows you how much I really pay attention to it. Damn, I was really feeling good about that Darwin and Lincoln thing. My bad all you Pisces!

re: #25 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Lincoln & Darwin

Bingo!

Interesting, of the two, Darwin was the most opposed to slavery, and the least racist!

I just got a copy of a new book that's coming out, Lincoln on Race & Slavery, by Henry Louis Gates. It has hundreds of pages direct precise transcriptions of Lincoln's speeches and writings, and damn, Lincoln was a stone-cold racist. I always knew he was a racist, but it was a hundred times worse than I thought. Lincoln was anti-slavery, but still thought blacks to be inferior, and wanted them all shipped back to Africa after being freed. or, barring that, segregated.

re: #14 zombie

Lincoln and Davis?

re: #53 LGoPs

Use minutes...it was thousands of minutes. Much more dramatic...

Seconds is even more damning.

re: #22 obscured by clouds

Hey, the media is saying that FEMA is doing a great job in responding to the ice storm mess in Kentucky. And they can't be wrong. /

re: #54 CapeCoddah

Me too, 17th here, everyone is always shoving green beer at me, and I don't drink!

S'okay..I'm St. Joseph's day...Italians love me. Have been a guest od honor at many a St. Joseph's Day altar. Got to eat with Anette Funiccello (sp?) one year. Brenda Vacarro another year. It was pretty damn cool.

re: #39 Alouette

Obama is the Highlander

The can be only one The One.

re: #14 zombie

Only nine more days to the 200th anniversary of February 12, 1809!

Two of the most important people in history were born on that exact day, at nearly the exact same moment.

Name them.

Lincoln and Darwin? Or is that a myth?

re: #62 zombie

Bingo!

Interesting, of the two, Darwin was the most opposed to slavery, and the least racist!

I just got a copy of a new book that's coming out, Lincoln on Race & Slavery, by Henry Louis Gates. It has hundreds of pages direct precise transcriptions of Lincoln's speeches and writings, and damn, Lincoln was a stone-cold racist. I always knew he was a racist, but it was a hundred times worse than I thought. Lincoln was anti-slavery, but still thought blacks to be inferior, and wanted them all shipped back to Africa after being freed. or, barring that, segregated.

Lincoln was a politician. He told audiences what they wanted to hear.

re: #62 zombie

Bingo!

Interesting, of the two, Darwin was the most opposed to slavery, and the least racist!

I just got a copy of a new book that's coming out, Lincoln on Race & Slavery, by Henry Louis Gates. It has hundreds of pages direct precise transcriptions of Lincoln's speeches and writings, and damn, Lincoln was a stone-cold racist. I always knew he was a racist, but it was a hundred times worse than I thought. Lincoln was anti-slavery, but still thought blacks to be inferior, and wanted them all shipped back to Africa after being freed. or, barring that, segregated.

Victim of the times.

re: #40 Mardukhai

I wish people would lay off of Tom Dashle for a moment, and understand just how helpful he was in the fight against the Muslim Brotherhood.

While investigating a story, I discovered that Tom was key to preventing a secret Ikhwanist from infiltrating a national anti-terrorist panel. He asked for no publicity, but as an indirect result, the LA Times took a disgusting revenge against the LA Jewish community.

I don't suppose you can elaborate on that a bit?

re: #62 zombie

wanted them all shipped back to Africa after being freed. or, barring that, segregated.

You didn't know that?

re: #26 turn

Don't know, but they were Pisces like me!

Pisces doesn't start till Feb 19.

re: #50 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

2/25 here, missed the leap year by a few days.

re: #57 FurryOldGuyJeans

The man came close to claiming credit for the vote.

I have noticed that the media is suddenly mostly silent on bashing Bush for things, especially Katrina. Wonder why that is.

Didn't the governor of Kentucky (?) ask for a federal disaster declaration a day or two ago?

Any response from the request? I saw nothing but the article on the request.

re: #40 Mardukhai

I wish people would lay off of Tom Dashle for a moment, and understand just how helpful he was in the fight against the Muslim Brotherhood.

While investigating a story, I discovered that Tom was key to preventing a secret Ikhwanist from infiltrating a national anti-terrorist panel. He asked for no publicity, but as an indirect result, the LA Times took a disgusting revenge against the LA Jewish community.

Huh?

re: #74 turn

2/25 here, missed the leap year by a few days.

That would have been cool!

re: #69 Alouette

Lincoln was a politician. He told audiences what they wanted to hear.

No. Innumerable quotes from Lincoln attest to the fact that these were his real feelings. It is truly mind-boggling.

re: #69 Alouette

Lincoln was a politician. He told audiences what they wanted to hear.

More, that was the era. It's odd and unsettling to read many things from the 19th century.

re: #66 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

S'okay..I'm St. Joseph's day...Italians love me. Have been a guest od honor at many a St. Joseph's Day altar. Got to eat with Anette Funiccello (sp?) one year. Brenda Vacarro another year. It was pretty damn cool.

LOL, my husbands is the day before, he was born a few minutes to midnight, and is of Irish descent. I am full blooded Italian, dont drink and I get St. Patricks day. He still gets cranky about the unfairness of it all.

re: #73 DeafDog

Obama has changed the Zodiac calendar by executive order.

re: #73 DeafDog

Pisces doesn't start till Feb 19.

I know now, ever regret a post? Oh well ... at least I found a few other gullible Pisces out there. Ha

re: #74 turn

2/25 here, missed the leap year by a few days.

And 2/24 here.
Wow. Lots of fishes here.

re: #72 MandyManners

You didn't know that?

Well, I knew the "shipped back to Africa" part, but I didn't know that his backup plan was a complete two-tier, totally segregated society that would have made Apartheid seem fair and balanced.

re: #74 turn

2/25 here, missed the leap year by a few days.

Did you catch my reply on the last thread? If not - my nic is blue, and I'd love to get a glass of wine w/ you this evening.

re: #81 Ay, Caramba

Obama has changed the Zodiac calendar by executive order.

He also changed the 'Year of the Ox', to the 'Year of the O'

re: #75 jwb7605

He did declare emergencies in Kentucky and Arkansas. But so far, no disaster declaration, which opens up additional aid and assistance to the state, and includes things like taxpayer relief.

re: #57 FurryOldGuyJeans

The man came close to claiming credit for the vote.

I have noticed that the media is suddenly mostly silent on bashing Bush for things, especially Katrina. Wonder why that is.

Whenever I hear Hurricane Katrina I think of this:

http://wuzzadem.typepad.com/wuz/2005/09/the_disaster_po.html

re: #84 zombie

Well, I knew the "shipped back to Africa" part, but I didn't know that his backup plan was a complete two-tier, totally segregated society that would have made Apartheid seem fair and balanced.

He was a pisser on that issue.

re: #62 zombie

Bingo!

Interesting, of the two, Darwin was the most opposed to slavery, and the least racist!

I just got a copy of a new book that's coming out, Lincoln on Race & Slavery, by Henry Louis Gates. It has hundreds of pages direct precise transcriptions of Lincoln's speeches and writings, and damn, Lincoln was a stone-cold racist. I always knew he was a racist, but it was a hundred times worse than I thought. Lincoln was anti-slavery, but still thought blacks to be inferior, and wanted them all shipped back to Africa after being freed. or, barring that, segregated.

Lincoln was a racist - somewhat typical of his time, but he found slavery seriously repugnant. I'm looking forward to learning more about C. Darwin .. still recall when my eldest sister gave me copies of "The Origin of Species" and Conrad Lorenze "On Aggression" .. I was about 14 or 15 and doors opened!

re: #77 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

That would have been cool!

Yeah, I wouldn't feel so bad about my age if I were born a few days later. I could tell everybody that I just had that Progeria (sp) disease or something.

re: #70 NYCHardhat

Victim of the times.

re: #79 Dianna

More, that was the era. It's odd and unsettling to read many things from the 19th century.

Yes, in a certain sense, Lincoln was "a victim of his time," but really, there were anti-racists even in the 19th-century (not that many, but some). It's just that Lincoln was so overt and eloquent in expressing his racist views.

re: #85 Dianna

No I missed it, I'll go back. Kewl.

re: #86 faraway

He also changed the 'Year of the Ass', to the 'Year of the O'

fixed it for you.

BBIAB

re: #84 zombie

Well, I knew the "shipped back to Africa" part, but I didn't know that his backup plan was a complete two-tier, totally segregated society that would have made Apartheid seem fair and balanced.

Zombie, that wasn't an uncommon idea in that era. I know it sounds awful.

Kipling seems to have felt much the same way, and he was born later and lived to see a different world.

Go figure.

re: #48 Shr_Nfr

Posted a link on the earlier thread where the Governor of Ky is still asking ABummer to declare Ky a major disaster area. Arkansas and Missouri got their declaration. Where is the press? Oh, I forgot, they are still on their knees in total adoration and covering tax frauds in Washington. Dead white people don't make for as nice pictures as floating dead black people. /color me very cynical.

But when Democratic WA State Governor Gregoire begged for disaster relief from all the flooding that was promptly approved.

Now how did WA go in the last election?

re: #52 DeafDog

Totaly off-topic, but you struck a memory bone...
Anyone ever read Steven Jay Gould's book "Questioning the Millenium"? I might even have the title wrong (the book is in the other room) but it's a great look at calendrics as opposed to numerology and all that bizarro stuff. All sorts of whacky patterns and coincidences.

re: #85 Dianna

Did you catch my reply on the last thread? If not - my nic is blue, and I'd love to get a glass of wine w/ you this evening.

Turn and Dianna sitting at a bar...

re: #83 reine.de.tout

And 2/24 here.
Wow. Lots of fishes here.

Reine! Wow, who would have thunk all us fishes?

re: #78 zombie

No. Innumerable quotes from Lincoln attest to the fact that these were his real feelings. It is truly mind-boggling.

Ya know, the folks who wrote the US Constitution were mostly politicians, too. What a great job they did.

Could you imagine a constituitional convention today with Obama/Reid/Pelosi. It would be a nightmare document.

re: #75 jwb7605

All I know is that it took only a couple of hours to get Governor Gregoire's request for disaster relief to be approved; the state went for O in 2008.

re: #92 zombie

Yes, in a certain sense, Lincoln was "a victim of his time," but really, there were anti-racists even in the 19th-century (not that many, but some). It's just that Lincoln was so overt and eloquent in expressing his racist views.

I know. It does shake one's sense of the good and right.

I tend - in history - to take what I can get. He recognized slavery as the terrible evil it was.

re: #82 turn

ever regret a post?

too frequently, but I rationalize that it keeps the conversation going, so it's all good.

Is it too early to talk about reparations?
/

re: #78 zombie

Agreed. Thoroughly and completely.

re: #83 reine.de.tout

And 2/24 here.
Wow. Lots of fishes here.

I'll join the parade - March 16

re: #87 lawhawk

He did declare emergencies in Kentucky and Arkansas. But so far, no disaster declaration, which opens up additional aid and assistance to the state, and includes things like taxpayer relief.

I thought I read estimates of 100,000 power poles down.
With the prospect of no power until March, that qualifies as disaster in my book.

re: #99 debutaunt

Turn and Dianna sitting at a bar...

Yeah...picture how much more fun it would be with about 30 more lizards, and lots of food!

re: #39 Alouette

Obama is the Highlander

Well, in keeping with his "green" mantra, he's actually a Highlander Hybrid.

re: #43 soxfan4life

Daschle was not one of the one's O was waiting for, and now he's accepted the withdrawal "with sadness and regret."

Does the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers have any tax problems?
/

re: #83 reine.de.tout

And 2/24 here.
Wow. Lots of fishes here.

Sea Kittens!

re: #90 Daisy

Lincoln was a racist - somewhat typical of his time, but he found slavery seriously repugnant. I'm looking forward to learning more about C. Darwin .. still recall when my eldest sister gave me copies of "The Origin of Species" and Conrad Lorenze "On Aggression" .. I was about 14 or 15 and doors opened!

I could add, Zombie, that what was truly remarkable was that Darwin was not only an abolitionist but not racist as well. Not all abolitionists were non-racist. That sort of racist phenomena continues w/Obamaniacs.

re: #109 Dianna

Yeah...picture how much more fun it would be with about 30 more lizards, and lots of food!

Any idea of how many lizards are in the Bay Area?

re: #83 reine.de.tout

And 2/24 here.
Wow. Lots of fishes here.

Well, June is a romantic month.

re: #33 Desert Dog

Are the alligators eating the survivors yet?

No! It's worse...the survivors are eating the survivors! Where's Geraldo when you really need him?!
/

re: #96 Dianna

Zombie, that wasn't an uncommon idea in that era. I know it sounds awful.

I only mention this about Lincoln not because he was so extraordinarily racist compared to others in his era, but because he is now held up as such a paragon of wisdom and virtue, and is called "the best friend the black man ever had," and so on. Well over half his writings and speeches have essentially been suppressed, because they reveal a side of him that is simply not acceptable. We needed a national hero, and he was chosen, and his "history" was cleaned up for mass consumption.

re: #105 AuntAcid

Is it too early to talk about reparations?
/

Only if you want me to start ranting!

re: #101 DeafDog

Ya know, the folks who wrote the US Constitution were mostly politicians, too. What a great job they did.

Could you imagine a constituitional convention today with Obama/Reid/Pelosi. It would be a nightmare document.

Obama has already made his negative feelings known about the Constitution. He lamented that all it did was enumerate citizen rights, not government responsibility to assure economic justice(Read wealth redistribuition). Well he is ready to fix that.

Wanted,

Democrat,
Career politician,
Tax cheat,

Position: President Obama cabinet member. Send resume to the white house. Facts will not be checked, backgrounds not investigated.

Obama, all the change you can hope for.

re: #105 AuntAcid

Is it too early to talk about reparations?
/

Why sarcastic? If your a white construction worker, Robert Reich wants to open the debate.

re: #116 obscured by clouds

No! It's worse...the survivors are eating the survivors! Where's Geraldo when you really need him?!
/

Survivor on whole wheat hold the mayo!

re: #79 Dianna

More, that was the era. It's odd and unsettling to read many things from the 19th century.

It's also unsettling to think of how recent this all was, by historical standards.

I am theoretically old enough to have met someone who was born a slave in the United States.

(Of course, it would have to have been a centegenarian, freed as an infant, whom I, myself, met while I was an infant... but like I said, "theoretically".)

re: #120 tmk8

Wanted,

Democrat,
Career politician,
Tax cheat,

Position: President Obama cabinet member. Send resume to the white house. Facts will not be checked, backgrounds not investigated.

Obama, all the change you can hope for.

King County (WA State) Executive Ron Sims has already accepted.

A classified Pentagon report urged US President Barack Obama to shift US military strategy in Afghanistan by de-emphasizing democracy-building and concentrating more on strikes against Taliban and al-Qaida sanctuaries inside Pakistan.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I guess it wasn't all that classified after all?

re: #114 debutaunt

Any idea of how many lizards are in the Bay Area?

A fair number; I think a bit more than 30.

I'm thinking that next time we throw a party, I'll invite the minions.

I would just like to point out that although I am not a pisces, I am still a fish.

re: #111 Picayune

Daschle was not one of the one's O was waiting for, and now he's accepted the withdrawal "with sadness and regret."

Does the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers have any tax problems?
/

Wouldn't you think O had Blago take care of that before leaving? And with Geitner leading Treasury how can anybody have tax "problems"?

re: #127 fish

I would just like to point out that although I am not a pisces, I am still a fish.

Cold and wet, eh? ;)

re: #121 DeafDog

Why sarcastic? If your a white construction worker, Robert Reich wants to open the debate.

White, male construction workers are essential for building and maintaining the white, Christian male power structure.

/

re: #113 Daisy

I could add, Zombie, that what was truly remarkable was that Darwin was not only an abolitionist but not racist as well. Not all abolitionists were non-racist. That sort of racist phenomena continues w/Obamaniacs.

Yes, that's what makes Darwin so remarkable. In fact, his theory of evolution permanently destroyed the "scientific" basis for racism, because Darwin proved that there is no "better" or "worse" among species or sub-types -- just "different."

re: #111 Picayune

the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers

OMG. That's great. Original?

re: #108 jwb7605

I thought I read estimates of 100,000 power poles down.
With the prospect of no power until March, that qualifies as disaster in my book.

Didn't know hillbillies had electricity.
/moonbat thinking - and maybe 0bama's

re: #130 Occasional Reader

White, male construction workers are essential for building and maintaining the white, Christian male power structure.

/

Oh yeah, my white male construction worker husband just LOVED that one!

re: #85 Dianna

Doh, I couldn't get that to work. It kept coming back "try again". At any rate I'm in 1119, can you call?

Oh and knock it off you other lizards, it's just for a beer!

Is it just me or is anyone else laughing at Dasche's glasses? What's even funnier? He paid over $700 for them.

No shit...really. What a tool.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

re: #117 zombie

I know.

History is history; it never ceases to amaze me that people think it can be suppressed.

Lincoln had his virtues, and he was a great man. Still, he was a product of his times and his prejudices, and it would be better to feel free to discuss all of the above, rather than trying to paint some rosy picture.

re: #127 fish

I would just like to point out that although I am not a pisces, I am still a fish.

One fish (you), Two fish (Pisces).

Now all we need is red fish, blue fish.

And a lucky sixpence in her shoe.

/mixed poetry

re: #87 lawhawk

He did declare emergencies in Kentucky and Arkansas. But so far, no disaster declaration, which opens up additional aid and assistance to the state, and includes things like taxpayer relief.

Well, you know, it's just a little ice. He just wants to bring some Chicago-style toughness to Kentucky. His kids have recess in stuff like this.

/

re: #119 opnion

Obama has already made his negative feelings known about the Constitution. He lamented that all it did was enumerate citizen rights, not government responsibility to assure economic justice(Read wealth redistribuition). Well he is ready to fix that.

Who better to destroy the Constitution than a Constitutional scholar?

re: #132 Occasional Reader

OMG. That's great. Original?

No

From the schadenfreude file...

Gee, maybe if you weren't such antisemitic Jew-hating Hamas-loving SOBs, Israelis might want to spend their vacations there.

re: #112 Dustyvet

Hello Lizard Nation-I'm back...Heh Heh. I just reviewed 'Signs of the Apocalypse thread-have not even tried to catch up on all the threads. I updinged a few Posts-and am undecided as to just 'Stare' when Avanti posts from now on. Have to think on that...

Dusty-how's Tiger doing, and yourself? Well, I hope...Cheers.

re: #136 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Is it just me or is anyone else laughing at Dasche's glasses? What's even funnier? He paid over $700 for them.

No shit...really. What a tool.

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Sally Jessie Raphael castoffs?

re: #130 Occasional Reader

White, male construction workers are essential for building and maintaining the white, Christian male power structure.

/

...and the mail power structure, too.

re: #130 Occasional Reader

Hahahahhaha

re: #135 turn

Doh, I couldn't get that to work. It kept coming back "try again". At any rate I'm in 1119, can you call?

Oh and knock it off you other lizards, it's just for a beer!

The Marriot down-town? Consider it done.

Remember...

Only dopes use dope hope.

re: #143 Pietr

Hello Lizard Nation-I'm back...Heh Heh. I just reviewed 'Signs of the Apocalypse thread-have not even tried to catch up on all the threads. I updinged a few Posts-and am undecided as to just 'Stare' when Avanti posts from now on. Have to think on that...

Dusty-how's Tiger doing, and yourself? Well, I hope...Cheers.

He's still in hospital, and it's not yet clear when he's coming home...:(

re: #147 Dianna
Yes ..

re: #117 zombie

I only mention this about Lincoln not because he was so extraordinarily racist compared to others in his era, but because he is now held up as such a paragon of wisdom and virtue, and is called "the best friend the black man ever had," and so on. Well over half his writings and speeches have essentially been suppressed, because they reveal a side of him that is simply not acceptable. We needed a national hero, and he was chosen, and his "history" was cleaned up for mass consumption.

It was cleaned up, but black Americans during the ML King era were among the first Americans to become aware of the discrepancy between Lincoln as the Great Emancipator and Lincoln the racist. I believe he remains the 'best friend the black man ever had'. There are limitations to being an autodidactic (as there are to ivy leaguers), even if as brilliant and original as Lincoln. And I still think Darwin was all the more remarkable in that he was both non-racist and an ardent abolitionist. He was sophisticated in a different way than Lincoln.

There's hope in the air.

re: #103 Dianna

I tend - in history - to take what I can get. He recognized slavery as the terrible evil it was.

The South was negotiating alliances with European governments, namely France. When Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation it made the Civil War conclusively about either the abolition or spread of slavery (which it already was, but the American media in the North and South wasn't covering it that way because it was a controversial issue). This essentially precluded the French from entering the war, because they weren't going to fight on behalf of slavery.

Lincoln couldn't have risen to be leader of the Republican Party while endorsing slavery, nor do I doubt he would have wanted to do so if he did. That he ended might have just been a very politically savvy move however.

re: #62 zombie

Bingo!

Interesting, of the two, Darwin was the most opposed to slavery, and the least racist!

I just got a copy of a new book that's coming out, Lincoln on Race & Slavery, by Henry Louis Gates. It has hundreds of pages direct precise transcriptions of Lincoln's speeches and writings, and damn, Lincoln was a stone-cold racist. I always knew he was a racist, but it was a hundred times worse than I thought. Lincoln was anti-slavery, but still thought blacks to be inferior, and wanted them all shipped back to Africa after being freed. or, barring that, segregated.

You're right. Just one example, from the first Lincoln-Douglas debate:

I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races. I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. ... And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.

re: #146 WriterMom

Hey WriterMom, I realized this morning you never got my e-mail, as it got stuck in a filter. SORRY, I did send it off...

re: #152 faraway

There's hope in the air.

Naw, O just broke wind.

News that US Auto makers continue to tank with sales. If the head of these auto makers had brains - they would file for bankruptcy protection and purge themselves of the cancerous Auto Union.

& Sheppard Smith is yelling! go shep.

House Leaders Wary of CAIR After FBI Shuns Islamic Advocacy Group
Members of Congress are pushing the FBI for more information on the Council on American-Islamic Relations after the bureau called the organization a front for radicals and told members to steer clear of the Islamic advocacy group.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Congress is always so late to the show?

re: #120 tmk8

Wanted,

Democrat,
Career politician,
Tax cheat,

Position: President Obama cabinet member. Send resume to the white house. Facts will not be checked, backgrounds not investigated.

Obama, all the change you can hope for.

I'm not a democrat, but I've had some tax problems. I'll take Education, please. I'll abolish my own department within 4 years.

re: #123 Occasional Reader

It's also unsettling to think of how recent this all was, by historical standards.

I am theoretically old enough to have met someone who was born a slave in the United States.

(Of course, it would have to have been a centegenarian, freed as an infant, whom I, myself, met while I was an infant... but like I said, "theoretically".)

The last surviving American ex-slave was Charles Smith, who died in Florida in 1979! There is some dispute as to his age and authenticity, but he claimed to be 137, though he was likely more like 116.

re: #157 FrogMarch

News that US Auto makers continue to tank with sales. If the head of these auto makers had brains - they would file for bankruptcy protection and purge themselves of the cancerous Auto Union.

& Sheppard Smith is yelling! go shep.

That will happen soon, as O told them basically to take a flying leap.

re: #101 DeafDog

Ya know, the folks who wrote the US Constitution were mostly politicians, too. What a great job they did.

Could you imagine a constituitional convention today with Obama/Reid/Pelosi. It would be a nightmare document.

They have no clue as to the underlining principals the founders built everything on.

Okay, seriously, can we call a moritorium on even ironic refernces to hope and change? i am personally sick of the words.

Btw, i am surprised no one commented on the fresh obama roadkill: daschle and that women who was supposed to be their performance person.

Biden Fumbles Clinton Oath Of Office After Poking Fun At Chief Justice

re: #62 zombie

Bingo!

Interesting, of the two, Darwin was the most opposed to slavery, and the least racist!

I just got a copy of a new book that's coming out, Lincoln on Race & Slavery, by Henry Louis Gates. It has hundreds of pages direct precise transcriptions of Lincoln's speeches and writings, and damn, Lincoln was a stone-cold racist. I always knew he was a racist, but it was a hundred times worse than I thought. Lincoln was anti-slavery, but still thought blacks to be inferior, and wanted them all shipped back to Africa after being freed. or, barring that, segregated.

He was. I heard a crazy Lincoln quote on the Paul Harvey show once.
I was stunned.

re: #163 A.W.

Okay, seriously, can we call a moritorium on even ironic refernces to hope and change? i am personally sick of the words.

Btw, i am surprised no one commented on the fresh obama roadkill: daschle and that women who was supposed to be their performance person.

You want to kill hope?

re: #163 A.W.

Okay, seriously, can we call a moritorium on even ironic refernces to hope and change? i am personally sick of the words.

What do you hope to accomplish with this change?

re: #164 faraway

Biden Fumbles Clinton Oath Of Office After Poking Fun At Chief Justice

Karma's a bitch. I love it.

Well, Lincoln was a Republican after all. His thoughts on Blacks should be obvious... /heavy sarcasm

re: #78 zombie

No. Innumerable quotes from Lincoln attest to the fact that these were his real feelings. It is truly mind-boggling.

re: #149 Dustyvet

He's still in hospital, and it's not yet clear when he's coming home...:(

Condolences-if he suffered bladder or other organ damage, he may not. I lost a favored Tortoiseshell kitty just b4 returning from England in '77-because no one, including the vet, recognized her symptoms in time. And it was a female cat. Is Tiger a Silver, Brown, or Red Tabby, Dusty? I've got a smattering of Brown and Silver strays I feed. They're all Mackerel pattern-not Classic pattern tabby's.

re: #164 faraway

Biden Fumbles Clinton Oath Of Office After Poking Fun At Chief Justice

From Biden, did we expect anything less? Or more? When he made the disparaging remark, he automatically jinxed himself. ;-)>

re: #140 soxfan4life

Who better to destroy the Constitution than a Constitutional scholar?

I think that he displays a real misunderstanding of the intent of the document. The Founders never attempted to create an equitable distribution of wealth. They never were interested in outcomes so much as freedoms, particularly fronm the government.

re: #128 soxfan4life

Blago, of course, nominate him - call off Fitz, and we get to shut him up, all in the bargain! Hmmm?
/

re: #154 Charles

I've recently learned that in Lincoln's era, sons (daughter?) of frontiersmen were indentured to work for their fathers until the age of 21. This was of course, also true of Lincoln, who could not stand his father, which was a great impetus for his decision to work on the Mississippi.

re: #163 A.W.

Okay, seriously, can we call a moritorium on even ironic refernces to hope and change? i am personally sick of the words.

Btw, i am surprised no one commented on the fresh obama roadkill: daschle and that women who was supposed to be their performance person.

Roadkill was poked over on the dead thread this morning.

Those words... That's what we have for next ... days.

re: #151 Daisy

It was cleaned up, but black Americans during the ML King era were among the first Americans to become aware of the discrepancy between Lincoln as the Great Emancipator and Lincoln the racist.

MLK is another fabricated hero. Everyone points back to his one line from a speech in regards to the content of character rather than the color of skin. In reality, he was pro-reparations, Affirmative Action, economic equality (ie socialism) etc. If he had never been assassinated he'd probably be a more erudite, more eloquent version of Al Sharpton today.

That black Americans made note of the myth of Lincoln shouldn't be surprising, because the Civil Rights movement absolutely employed the crafting of their own mythology to lionize King.

re: #127 fish

I would just like to point out that although I am not a pisces, I am still a fish.

re: #431 Killgore Trout

...I also eat fish almost every day.

Stay away from Killgore Trout. He is a Man Eating Fish...
:)

I'm nervous, I've never met a real live lizard in person! How many shades of green do we come in? Ha!

On to the show, later lizards.

Good Afternoon Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
Dear Al Gore..Please stop the snow and cold.. I can't take the global warming anymore.. I surrender.

One of those days today:

8am: "Hey guys, I need you input before the 10am call about the email I sent you last night."
9am: "Need an answer before the call at 10"
930am: "30 minutes and I need your answer to pass on the call. 10 minutes? Ok, I'll wait on your call."
950am: "Still waiting on your callback. Need an answer"
10am: "OK we're going to go ahead and work the issue like this."
1030am: "Since I didn't get any feedback, this is how we're moving ahead."

1215pm: I get a response "Why didn't you get in touch with us before your call?"

re: #163 A.W.

Okay, seriously, can we call a moritorium on even ironic refernces to hope and change? i am personally sick of the words.

Btw, i am surprised no one commented on the fresh obama roadkill: daschle and that women who was supposed to be their performance person.

You have along four years ahead of you then don't you? ;-)>

re: #132 Occasional Reader
Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers?
Wish it were, but, ah, no, I read it on another blog and could not stop laughing.

re: #126 Dianna

A fair number; I think a bit more than 30.

I'm thinking that next time we throw a party, I'll invite the minions.

There are no lizard riff-raff!

re: #176 Scion9

MLK is another fabricated hero. Everyone points back to his one line from a speech in regards to the content of character rather than the color of skin. In reality, he was pro-reparations, Affirmative Action, economic equality (ie socialism) etc. If he had never been assassinated he'd probably be a more erudite, more eloquent version of Al Sharpton today.

That black Americans made note of the myth of Lincoln shouldn't be surprising, because the Civil Rights movement absolutely employed the crafting of their own mythology to lionize King.

ML King was, and remains, a hero, as does Lincoln. No fabrication needed.

can you imagine the shrill hysteria from the MSM if Bush had three nominees with admitted tax evasion crimes. AG Gonzales was run out because of alleged 'political' firings of at will US Attorneys.

re: #181 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

One of those days today:

8am: "Hey guys, I need you input before the 10am call about the email I sent you last night."
9am: "Need an answer before the call at 10"
930am: "30 minutes and I need your answer to pass on the call. 10 minutes? Ok, I'll wait on your call."
950am: "Still waiting on your callback. Need an answer"
10am: "OK we're going to go ahead and work the issue like this."
1030am: "Since I didn't get any feedback, this is how we're moving ahead."

1215pm: I get a response "Why didn't you get in touch with us before your call?"

never fails does it? There is something to be said for the hard copy memorandum. At least in terms of back of documentation.

re: #172 opnion

I think that he displays a real misunderstanding of the intent of the document. The Founders never attempted to create an equitable distribution of wealth. They never were interested in outcomes so much as freedoms, particularly fronm the government.

This brings to a thought on the 2008 election.

There is a big difference between intentions and results. To me (and most conservative leaning folks), results are more important than intentions.

I posit that to liberals, intentions are more important than results...it's the only way I can explain the love affair with Obama since he's accomplished absolutely nothing of substance. He's got no results, just flowery rhetoric on intentions.

Kwame Kilpatrick for HHS Secretary

re: #169 Pyrocles

Well, Lincoln was a Republican after all. His thoughts on Blacks should be obvious... /heavy sarcasm

I had an argument with a moonbat the other day about MLK's political affiliation. He was a republican. He was arrested at a protest in 1960, and held in a Georgia prison. His father, fearing for his life, asked presidential candidate JFK for help in getting him released, which JFK did, and at that point, MLK and his family switched parties after promising to deliver 10 million black votes for JFK to thank him. (Short version)

re: #189 Outrider

never fails does it? There is something to be said for the hard copy memorandum. At least in terms of back of documentation.

back up documentation. pimf

re: #180 HoosierHoops

Good Afternoon Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
Dear Al Gore..Please stop the snow and cold.. I can't take the global warming anymore.. I surrender.

How much gorebull warming did you all get? We got about 4" at my house. It has stopped for now.

re: #172 opnion

I think that he displays a real misunderstanding of the intent of the document. The Founders never attempted to create an equitable distribution of wealth. They never were interested in outcomes so much as freedoms, particularly fronm the government.

I wouldn't say that Obama has a misunderstanding of the Constitution. I'd call it a willful redefinition to suit his Alinskyite, Marxist belief system...

re: #163 A.W.

Okay, seriously, can we call a moritorium on even ironic refernces to hope and change? i am personally sick of the words.

Btw, i am surprised no one commented on the fresh obama roadkill: daschle and that women who was supposed to be their performance person.

You need to read between the lines, as in my comment #8

re: #189 Outrider

never fails does it? There is something to be said for the hard copy memorandum. At least in terms of back of documentation.

Thanks to the joys of group emails and delivery receipts on emails, my ass is covered.

Shep did not mention PJM when talking about Joe the plumber. why?

/must turn off the damn boob tube.

re: #121 DeafDog

Why sarcastic? If your a white construction worker, Robert Reich wants to open the debate.

With every crisis now under control by O's deft touch and with the whole world now loving us again I thought we could turn our attention to the really important stuff, that's all. Let's not ignore Carter's Truth and Reconciliation plan either.

One of the best songs of all time

Jacques Brel: La chanson des vieux amants (song of old lovers)
(with english subtitles)

re: #191 faraway

Kwame Kilpatrick for HHS Secretary

Leona Helmsley for HUD
Marion Barry for Drug Tzar
Jack Abramoff for ethics Tzar

re: #197 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thanks to the joys of group emails and delivery receipts on emails, my ass is covered.

Never send without em'

re: #194 newsjunkie_ky

How much gorebull warming did you all get? We got about 4" at my house. It has stopped for now.

You know you're getting old when snow is no longer something you enjoy.

re: #186 Daisy

ML King was, and remains, a hero, as does Lincoln. No fabrication needed.

He had his good moments and his bad ones.

re: #185 debutaunt

There are no lizard riff-raff!

That sentence has never been written before. Should it be there is no lizard riff-raff? Ain't?

re: #154 Charles

Lincoln:

I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races. I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. ... And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.

Yup. And in the new book I mentioned (Lincoln on Race & Slavery, by Henry Louis Gates), there are pages upon pages of quotes similar to that, and worse, dating from the early part of his political career, all the way up through the Civil War. There's even some really egregious stuff about being repulsed by black women sexually. Most of the time, Lincoln goes to great pains to state, essentially, "I am opposed to slavery in principle, but don't take that to mean that I think blacks are equal to whites in any way. They are not: blacks are inferior, and we can't have a successful nation with them in it. In fact, there shouldn't be any blacks in te US at all, slave or free. Let's ship them back to Africa, and be rid of them forever. I have nothing against them personally, I just don't want them around." That basically sums up Lincoln's attitude.

He began to soften his stance a bit in 1862, apparently, for political reasons, however.

Looks like my daughter is moving to Seattle this summer.
Any Seattle Lizards want to help this mom not feel so bad about her move?

re: #45 NYCHardhat

2/22 for me.

Never!

SNAP!

re: #176 Scion9

MLK is another fabricated hero. Everyone points back to his one line from a speech in regards to the content of character rather than the color of skin. In reality, he was pro-reparations, Affirmative Action, economic equality (ie socialism) etc. If he had never been assassinated he'd probably be a more erudite, more eloquent version of Al Sharpton today.

That black Americans made note of the myth of Lincoln shouldn't be surprising, because the Civil Rights movement absolutely employed the crafting of their own mythology to lionize King.

Part of the deification of MLK is because the other major voice of the time - Malcom X - was down right belligerent.

re: #203 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You know you're getting old when snow is no longer something you enjoy.

That's not true for me, I'm 56 and I LOVE it. I wouldn't mind cold and snowy all year long.

re: #207 newsjunkie_ky

Looks like my daughter is moving to Seattle this summer.
Any Seattle Lizards want to help this mom not feel so bad about her move?

I don't live there, but on the bright side, it is beautiful and there are plenty of people to laugh at.

Today, a day off work and without my car (thanks ice), I've had time to make an important discovery: The red slipcovers on my Pottery Barn sectional sofa are - ta da dum dum - machine washable!

re: #194 newsjunkie_ky

How much gorebull warming did you all get? We got about 4" at my house. It has stopped for now.

Working on 8 inches w/ 2ft drifts of global warming here.

re: #190 DeafDog

This brings to a thought on the 2008 election.

There is a big difference between intentions and results. To me (and most conservative leaning folks), results are more important than intentions.

I posit that to liberals, intentions are more important than results...it's the only way I can explain the love affair with Obama since he's accomplished absolutely nothing of substance. He's got no results, just flowery rhetoric on intentions.

Dead on. That is why I think liberals seem to be comfortable with hypocricy. In their minds it really doesn't matter what you do. The only thing that matters is what you say about it...the position you take on it. And, as an added bonus, the fuckers get away with it because the MFM buys into the whole thing.
Do as I say, not as I do is their credo. Any honorable person would revile at that.

re: #194 newsjunkie_ky

How much gorebull warming did you all get? We got about 4" at my house. It has stopped for now.

Hi news! hope today finds you well..I think about 6" of snow today...
But I'm a guy so it could be closer to 4". LOL
We never should have got a house with a really long driveway..
I need a snow blower...
hope you are staying warm my friend..

re: #197 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thanks to the joys of group emails and delivery receipts on emails, my ass is covered.

good deal. E-mail wasn't as refined when I was in the Army working on staff, so I relied heavily on Memorandums of Record. I detested waiting for varied input before completing my reports, usually the input was so weak it was of limited value and I had already done the legwork and got the data in the absence of input anyway.

re: #207 newsjunkie_ky

Looks like my daughter is moving to Seattle this summer.
Any Seattle Lizards want to help this mom not feel so bad about her move?

Yes, you have a room for rent. LOL. What part do you feel bad about. I would feel bad she is moving to Seattle. That's where all the hippies went because they heard there was no work there.

re: #203 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You know you're getting old when snow is no longer something you enjoy.

LOL!
We have had so much lately. At least this snow is powder fine. I used the broom and swept it off the sidewalks and a little area for Izzy to potty.
She got spayed today, and is not in a good mood at all.

If nobody else has said it as yet -

I LOST MY JOB THROUGH THE NEW YORK TIMES!

(My name is Tom Daschle and I approved this message.)

-S-

re: #186 Daisy

ML King was, and remains, a hero, as does Lincoln. No fabrication needed.

Well apparently most disagree, being that our government paid for schools certainly don't tell the whole story; only the mythological one. Someone thinks fabrication is needed. There is also a huge difference between a real hero which both MLK and Lincoln were, and a Carlylian Hero which is what MLK and Lincoln both are now.

re: #204 jcm

He had his good moments and his bad ones.

So did Ulysses.

re: #212 Creeping Eruption

I don't live there, but on the bright side, it is beautiful and there are plenty of people to laugh at.

I was in Portland this last summer, and that exactly sums up my impression of that town, as well.

re: #203 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You know you're getting old when snow is no longer something you enjoy.

that would cover me at age 10 shoveling the walk and driveway? And in the Army shoveling the motor pool and parking lots as well as my own house? ;-)>

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

That's not true for me, I'm 56 and I LOVE it. I wouldn't mind cold and snowy all year long.

Hiya Walter, How is your girlfriend doing after the accident?

re: #207 newsjunkie_ky

Looks like my daughter is moving to Seattle this summer.
Any Seattle Lizards want to help this mom not feel so bad about her move?

There's the good and the bad. It's very blue politically. High cost of living and housing. Crime rates low compared to a lot of place. Lots of folks have carry permits and criminals ain't completely stupid.

It's still very friendly, the climate and country side are wonderful. Schools other than City of Seattle itself are decent go good.

What else?

re: #201 lawhawk

Leona Helmsley for HUD
Marion Barry for Drug Tzar
Jack Abramoff for ethics Tzar

No-go on Helmsley. That business about the little people paying taxes...

re: #207 newsjunkie_ky

Looks like my daughter is moving to Seattle this summer.
Any Seattle Lizards want to help this mom not feel so bad about her move?

Don't know where you live newsjunkie but she will hate the long grey damp winters. That's why I left.

re: #178 LGoPs

Stay away from Killgore Trout. He is a Man Eating Fish...
:)

I had a dream about KT and his mother last night...no fish tho...whoa what's up when you dream about anonymous blog posters?

re: #212 Creeping Eruption

I don't live there, but on the bright side, it is beautiful and there are plenty of people to laugh at.

Those 'people to laugh at' are what scares me. Have I prepared her enough to ward off the looney lefties out there?

Can someone photoshop an X over Daschle's face.?

Image: the-cabinet21.jpg

re: #226 jcm

There's the good and the bad. It's very blue politically. High cost of living and housing. Crime rates low compared to a lot of place. Lots of folks have carry permits and criminals ain't completely stupid.

It's still very friendly, the climate and country side are wonderful. Schools other than City of Seattle itself are decent go good.

What else?

NORDSTROMS!

re: #222 Daisy

So did Ulysses.

Take the good, learn from the bad.
MLK had more good moments than bad. We're better off for it.

re: #229 albusteve

I had a dream about KT and his mother last night...no fish tho...whoa what's up when you dream about anonymous blog posters?

just say "NO" to crack, Albusteve

re: #229 albusteve

jk

Robert Gibbs told reporters Tuesday, "The bar that we set is the highest that any administration in the country has ever set."

Setting a high bar doesn't count for much in a limbo contest.

re: #207 newsjunkie_ky

Looks like my daughter is moving to Seattle this summer.
Any Seattle Lizards want to help this mom not feel so bad about her move?

My Sister lives in the Seattle area...She used to race speed boats out there racing for Bud. She is quite the pistol and alot of fun to be around...
She knows a lot of people...

re: #186 Daisy

ML King was, and remains, a hero, as does Lincoln. No fabrication needed.

I agree with that.

Also -

George Washington --> Hero
Thomas Jefferson ---> Hero
George Patton ---> Hero

I picked those 3 because history always puts an astriks next to their brilliance because they were not pollitically correct in 21st century terms. We would probably be better served if we treated MLK and Lincoln the same.

re: #231 FrogMarch

Can someone photoshop an X over Daschle's face.?

[Link: theplumline.whorunsgov.com...]

them boys need to get them hands out of their pockets. Play pocket pool on their own time. ;-)>

re: #230 newsjunkie_ky

It's really green up there, and I'm not talking about the environuts. Lotsa' rain and moderate temperatures.

re: #229 albusteve

I had a dream about KT and his mother last night...no fish tho...whoa what's up when you dream about anonymous blog posters?

And his mother!

re: #230 newsjunkie_ky

Those 'people to laugh at' are what scares me. Have I prepared her enough to ward off the looney lefties out there?

You have to have confidence as a parent that you did your job - otherwise you will pull out the remaining hair you have left after raising her.

re: #219 newsjunkie_ky

LOL!
We have had so much lately. At least this snow is powder fine. I used the broom and swept it off the sidewalks and a little area for Izzy to potty.
She got spayed today, and is not in a good mood at all.

LOL, My Finnbar loved to go to the vet until that fateful trip when he was snipped. Now, once you manage to drag him inside, he just pees on the floor and shakes. They have to knock him out to give him shots and clip his nails.

re: #231 FrogMarch

Can someone photoshop an X over Daschle's face.?

[Link: theplumline.whorunsgov.com...]

I love that movie...The Usual Suspects! Oh wait, that's Obama's cabinet, nevermind.

re: #239 DeafDog

I agree with that.

Also -

George Washington --> Hero
Thomas Jefferson ---> Hero
George Patton ---> Hero

I picked those 3 because history always puts an astriks next to their brilliance because they were not pollitically correct in 21st century terms. We would probably be better served if we treated MLK and Lincoln the same.

Sherman --- Hero

re: #239 DeafDog

I agree with that.

Also -

George Washington --> Hero
Thomas Jefferson ---> Hero
George Patton ---> Hero

I picked those 3 because history always puts an astriks next to their brilliance because they were not pollitically correct in 21st century terms. We would probably be better served if we treated MLK and Lincoln the same.

Chesty Puller

re: #214 CapeCoddah

Working on 8 inches w/ 2ft drifts of global warming here.

Yikes! Hopefully with this snow, of the powdery kind, we won't have many more power outages.

re: #221 Scion9

Well apparently most disagree, being that our government paid for schools certainly don't tell the whole story; only the mythological one. Someone thinks fabrication is needed. There is also a huge difference between a real hero which both MLK and Lincoln were, and a Carlylian Hero which is what MLK and Lincoln both are now.

I prefer to keep this one simple. They were both great men; both had a sense of being called to fulfill great destiny; both were heroic and neither were saints.

re: #207 newsjunkie_ky

Looks like my daughter is moving to Seattle this summer.
Any Seattle Lizards want to help this mom not feel so bad about her move?

Tell her to live ANYWHERE but Seattle proper. Unless she likes ever increasing taxes and intrusive regulations on private matters.

re: #225 CapeCoddah

Hiya Walter, How is your girlfriend doing after the accident?

I don't know, since I broke up with her 3 weeks ago. Long story, a lot of Lizards heard it already, the classic comics version, since she needed me to do a lot of personal stuff for her, I suddenly had a lot of access to her life, and I discovered her moral compass was way off on another "map."

Thought best that I break it off before it went any further. Her back was broke, but the docs said she would be alright, after a long recovery period.

re: #32 NYCHardhat

Yes. He is the Messiah.

Do I need to add a ///?

Don't fake your multiple sarcasms.

Auto sales down 50% in January!

re: #235 Desert Dog

jk

I'm sorta concerned...you know?

re: #233 jcm

Take the good, learn from the bad.
MLK had more good moments than bad. We're better off for it.

That's what I think.