ABC’s Stephanopoulos Violating Journalistic Ethics?

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Media corruption at its most brazen: Bozell to ABC President: You Must Publicly Address Stephanopoulos’ Apparent Conflict of Interest.

Alexandria, VA – Media Research Center (MRC) President L. Brent Bozell, III has written a letter to ABC News President David Westin calling on him to publicly address and resolve what appears to be a clear violation of journalistic ethics by ABC’s Chief Washington Correspondent George Stephanopoulos. Last week a Politico story broke the news that Stephanopoulos has participated in daily phone strategy sessions with now White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel throughout his tenure at ABC.

Mr. Bozell on Thursday issued a statement demanding an explanation, and calling for Stephanopoulos to recuse himself from reporting on an Obama Administration whose plans and messaging he spends every morning helping to craft. Stephanopoulos has remained silent.

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344 comments
1 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:30:09pm

HA!

You used "journalistic" and "ethics" in the same sentence.

2 MJ  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:30:22pm

Oxymoron: Journalistic Ethics

3 jones  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:31:24pm

Yeah, but Sarah Palin is making a volcano blo up!

4 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:31:34pm

And they claim Rush get his talking points from the GOP every day. That's the pot calling the kettle greek.

5 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:32:11pm

What else would you expect from a Clinton hack like Stephanopolous?

6 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:32:24pm
7 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:32:37pm

Did he have them to begin with?

8 pink freud  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:32:40pm

Journalists have ethics?

WHO KNEW!

9 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:32:40pm

A REALLY Useful Idiot. Does he not get the fact that he has become part of the propaganda machine; he feeds the administration on strategy and then reports on the administration's brilliant strategy.

10 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:33:08pm

I thought they all just read the NY Times every morning.

11 kynna  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:33:09pm

Stephie sat there and nodded while Hillery! ranted that the Millennium Bomber was caught because of the Clinton Administration's policies. The same week that Janet Reno testified before the 9/11 commission that it was just an on-the-ball border agent that caught that one.

He. Just. Nodded.

There are no ethics in journalism.

12 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:33:24pm

Hmmm. Smells like unethical fabrication of journalism to me. He actively participates and assists in "creating" the days news, instead of reporting on it. No wonder he's mum. Can his ass and bar him from practicing journalism again anywhere. Kick his butt out of the white house pool now.

13 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:33:51pm

re: #3 jones

Yeah, but Sarah Palin is making a volcano blo up!

I can see where Gov. Palin is causing a few eruptions--wink wink nudge nudge, say no more.

14 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:34:30pm
Bozell has now brought the matter directly to Westin, calling on him to either provide evidence that the Politico story is false, or admit and resolve what clearly would be a major violation of journalistic ethics.

I wonder if Westin will even respond.

15 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:34:31pm

I'll bet Olberman and Matthews are pissed. I'm sure they wanted a piece of the action.

16 kynna  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:34:37pm

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Interesting. This is the first time I have seen "journalistic ethics" used as a euphemism for "Democratic Party fellation."

Hmmm. So instead of a Lewinsky it's now a Stephanopolous?

17 pink freud  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:35:07pm

It's my understanding that James Carville also sits in on these sessions with Rahm Emmanuel.

18 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:35:08pm

Snuffalufagus is annoying as hell.

Martin Short plays the role much better.

19 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:35:23pm

re: #12 notutopia

Hmmm. Smells like unethical fabrication of journalism to me. He actively participates and assists in "creating" the days news, instead of reporting on it. No wonder he's mum. Can his ass and bar him from practicing journalism again anywhere. Kick his butt out of the white house pool now.

Can't do that. It's not a regulated field.

20 latingent  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:35:26pm

Spoon fed info to a liberal hack that reports it as `news`. Nothing new here, a clown that has inside info is what Obama is!

21 Steve Rogers  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:35:27pm

Stephanopoulos will have to take his blue shirt in to get cleaned any day now.

22 oh_dude  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:35:39pm

These aren't the droids you're looking for.

He can go about his business...

23 fish  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:35:41pm

ABC's Stephanopoulos Violating Journalistic Ethics?

Yes. Next question.

24 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:35:50pm

nice oxymoron....heh

25 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:36:07pm

journalistic ethics, good one, skippy.

but me, I don't care who Step talks to, really. ethics, heh. I heard of that once, in school. I think some fool who paid his taxes, was talking about it. ethics. we don't need no stinkin' ethics no more, we gots unicorns.
/

26 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:36:09pm

re: #17 pink freud

It's my understanding that James Carville also sits in on these sessions with Rahm Emmanuel.

Link?

27 MJ  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:36:20pm

Does George Stephanopoulos pay his taxes?

28 calcajun  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:36:37pm

The "missteps" of the administration are starting to mount up--and only in the first two weeks. The poor bastard might get put on the defensive for good if this keeps up. BTW, is it me, or does the White House Press Secretary make Caroline Kennedy (Schlossberg) seem positively erudite?

29 logboy  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:36:53pm

Journalistic Ethics? Is that like "friendly fire"?

30 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:37:05pm
31 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:37:45pm

He better comply or Brent will rub him with his beard.

32 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:37:50pm

Just another step down the road at the Pravda-ization of the MFM

33 kynna  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:38:02pm

re: #27 MJ

Does George Stephanopoulos pay his taxes?

LOL. Not likely.

34 opnion  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:38:19pm

This story has been out there for a while. If I recall correctly there is another Obama aide on the daily call. Anybody know?

35 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:38:29pm

re: #27 MJ

Does George Stephanopoulos pay his taxes?

In the words of El Zorro, "And now it is time for you to pay your taxes."

36 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:38:58pm

fucking around with the news like this a bad rabbit....sooner or later there will be issues with the 1st....I see the day when we all suffer as a result of this type of bs....I hate the MSM....our dire enemy

37 vagabond trader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:39:20pm

Awww, are they going to punish Georgie because he had a big ol' man crush? Better take a number.

38 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:39:32pm

Yes, looks suspiciously like a sneaky way to build a government-media complex, doesn't it? Wonder why he needed to be so blatant about it, though. I mean, it's not as if you need to consult with people you agree with, is it?

39 Scion9  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:39:36pm

If ABC/Stephanopoulus doesn't play ball in delivering the talking points, then the White House will just pick up shop and go to the next journalist in line.

Then ABC would be left with the options of ravaging the Obama administration, or keeping mum about the unethical relationship between the network and the White House.

I don't see them addressing the issue or being overtly critical of Obama; that is unless he majorly screws up something among his base and his approval ratings start to tank. Even then, I imagine most MSM outlets will be cup bearers for The One.

40 solomonpanting  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:40:15pm

Seeing how Stephanopoulos is so emotionaly tied to the Dems, this would be a moving violation.

41 vagabond trader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:40:18pm

re: #36 albusteve

Too late. We have what we have at 1600 due to media malfeasance.

42 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:40:34pm

re: #19 MandyManners

Can't do that. It's not a regulated field.

No regulations at all, Mandy? Even to a suit for media malfeasance? What about the ABC network? They are legally liable for his actions.

43 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:41:02pm

This could be interesting......Obama campaign manager getting 7-figure book deal

44 filetandrelease  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:41:24pm

re: #3 jones

Yeah, but Sarah Palin is making a volcano blo up!

LOL

45 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:41:25pm
46 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:41:32pm

stephanopolous also made sure to cover for O, in an interview when O referred to his "moslem faith".
sycophant steph quickly said 'um you mean your "christian faith."
and O corrected himself so fast. apologizing like he had been caught cussing.

47 reine.de.tout  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:41:37pm

re: #8 pink freud

Journalists have ethics?

WHO KNEW!

They did at one time.
My dad was a print (newspaper) journalist from mid 1950's to the mid 1980's. They did indeed have ethics at one time.

He hated, just hated, TV "journalists", who he felt were nothing more than news readers. And he hated it even more when the news readers (and then the writers, too) began to editorialize in what were supposed to be hard news stories.

Stephanopoulos is among the "chosen" ones. These people really begin to believe after at time that the regular rules do not apply to them, and that they are personally a force for good, and so should tell us all what we should be thinking, doing, etc.

48 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:42:03pm
49 Daddio  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:42:03pm

"Apparent conflict of interest"
Dude, we're talking about the mainstream media! A conflict of interest is when a guy like John Stossel (sp), as a member of the MSM, comes out against a demlib issue.
Stephi is perfectly in synch with the MSM ideology.

50 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:42:09pm

re: #43 DeafDog

This could be interesting......Obama campaign manager getting 7-figure book deal

Wait... that's more than $500,000, right?

/jerk.

51 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:42:14pm

re: #41 vagabond trader

Too late. We have what we have at 1600 due to media malfeasance.

some will call it treason someday and I'd be hard pressed to disagree....this type of story give me the shivers

52 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:42:16pm

re: #43 DeafDog

This could be interesting......Obama campaign manager getting 7-figure book deal

Makes you wonder what John, Peter, and the other disciples got the first time around, huh?
//

53 dhg4  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:42:48pm

The NYT yesterday reported that liberal reporters know how to keep bias out of their news reporting. Commenting on former Time reporter Jay Carney's move to become VP Biden's spokesman, his former boss commented:

Mr. Carney’s former boss, Time magazine’s managing editor, Richard Stengel, said of him, “I never had any evidence one way or another what his political leanings are.”

Stengel is a position to judge:

Mr. Stengel left journalism to work on Bill Bradley’s 2000 campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Why isn't the MSM-Democratic politician revolving door as much of a scandal as any other revolving door in Washington?

54 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:43:07pm

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

It's actually a fifteen-figure deal according to Nancy Pelosi.

good one....poor Nan...what a crackpot

55 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:43:16pm
56 kynna  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:43:19pm

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

I never watched "Sesame Street," but I always thought "Stephanopoulos" was one of their big, floppy Muppets.

No, Stephanopoulos is a little, humanoid muppet with a button nose. He smiles a lot and when he opens his mouth words fly in from off screen, enter his ear and come out of his mouth. He teaches kids obsequiousness and toadying.

57 Racer X  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:43:25pm

This is really big.

Think about it - a "journalist" has been "reporting" on the administration, while at the same time participating in policy making. With no hint of disclosure.

Lying fargin iceholes.

58 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:43:34pm

Is ABC's Stephanopoulos Violating Journalistic Ethics?

THIS is the definition of a rhetorical question.

59 SixDegrees  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:43:46pm

Anyone want to wager on how many other "journalists" in Stephie's position have also participated in such meetings?

Given, from the sounds of this, that at least some of these meetings have taken place over the last two weeks - during Obama's Presidency - it would be in the public interest to release any recordings, minutes or other material preserved to document exactly what sort of manipulation may have been overtly promoted, and by whom.

The Left has been whining about the arrival of '1984'-style thought control for years. I wonder how they feel about it now that they're the ones actually bringing it about?

60 vagabond trader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:44:08pm

re: #51 albusteve

In a totalitarian state the first thing to go is freedom of speech, then they take the guns.

61 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:44:13pm

re: #26 MandyManners

Link?

Rush talked about it at length last Friday.

62 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:44:31pm
63 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:44:36pm

re: #59 SixDegrees

The Left has been whining about the arrival of '1984'-style thought control for years. I wonder how they feel about it now that they're the ones actually bringing it about?

If I had to guess, I'd say they feel pretty damned good about it.

64 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:44:41pm
65 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:44:56pm

re: #55 Ben Hur


PLEASE DELETE!

66 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:45:06pm

re: #59 SixDegrees

I'm sure the tapes have already been burned. The dems aren't stupid, there are probably no records of these meetings/phone calls and if there were, they have already been destroyed.

67 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:45:11pm

re: #53 dhg4

The NYT yesterday reported that liberal reporters know how to keep bias out of their news reporting. Commenting on former Time reporter Jay Carney's move to become VP Biden's spokesman, his former boss commented:

Why isn't the MSM-Democratic politician revolving door as much of a scandal as any other revolving door in Washington?

Because scandals are made by the MSM.

68 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:45:21pm

re: #42 notutopia

No regulations at all, Mandy? Even to a suit for media malfeasance? What about the ABC network? They are legally liable for his actions.

Media malfeasance? Is that a cause of action? Who would have standing to sue?

69 quickjustice  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:45:31pm

Liberal journalists coordinating with a Democratic White House to get out its message? "Vast Let-Wing Conspiracy" anyone?

70 LEGION  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:45:43pm

And few other than us will ever know- so sad- so predictable. And a NY school changed their name to the new prezs' - dumbasses. The way this bozo is going- it'll be changed back pronto!

71 Kragar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:45:45pm

re: #62 Ben Hur

WHAT THE F*CK!?!

Not what I meant!

LOL!

When Igot it it went right to the White Obama!

I dont know about white Obama, but I'll be checking out the other link in detail when I get home later.

72 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:45:46pm

re: #59 SixDegrees


The Left has been whining about the arrival of '1984'-style thought control for years. I wonder how they feel about it now that they're the ones actually bringing it about?

Deserves repeating.

73 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:46:02pm

re: #65 Ben Hur

PLEASE DELETE!

Ben, do you want us NOT to click on that link?

74 GoIllini  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:46:03pm

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

I never watched "Sesame Street," but I always thought "Stephanopoulos" was one of their big, floppy Muppets.

Yeah, but unfortunately we can all see (and hear...) this Stephanopoulos.

75 Suzette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:46:07pm

re: #8 pink freud

Journalists have ethics?

WHO KNEW!

They don't. Hence the reason we BHO as POTUS.

76 nikis-knight  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:46:12pm

The explanation is simple--how else is ABC supposed to know what to say?
/
But really, isn't this exactly the sort of media manipulation by a politician that would make the left all a-quiver?

77 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:46:17pm

re: #69 quickjustice

Liberal journalists coordinating with a Democratic White House to get out its message? "Vast Let-Wing Conspiracy" anyone?

No, I think that's called an internship.

78 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:46:24pm
79 Cato the Elder  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:46:46pm

Stephanopoulos is an arrogant little wiener. I haven't watched him in years, and the punditocracy would be none the poorer for his disappearance.

80 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:46:57pm

re: #60 vagabond trader

In a totalitarian state the first thing to go is freedom of speech, then they take the guns.

not mine....I'm ready to cash in my chips....I've been to Disney World several times

81 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:47:14pm
82 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:47:16pm

re: #73 notutopia

Ben, do you want us NOT to click on that link?

It's got NSFW all over it.

My bad.

83 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:47:17pm
84 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:47:22pm
85 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:47:39pm

re: #82 Ben Hur

It's got NSFW all over it.

My bad.

Yeah, now you tell me. :-P

86 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:47:47pm

re: #61 Soona'

Rush talked about it at length last Friday.

Missed it.

87 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:47:52pm
88 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:47:55pm

re: #62 Ben Hur

WHAT THE F*CK!?!

Not what I meant!

LOL!

When Igot it it went right to the White Obama!

LOL..wondered why you linked to a p0rn site..

89 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:47:59pm

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

It's actually a fifteen-figure deal according to Nancy Pelosi.

Any book deal for a liberal democrat will not, according to Pelosi, exceed more that five dollars and that money will be given to the children.
//

90 Kragar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:48:05pm

Ben Hur is a pervert! Ben Hur is a pervert!

I knew there was something I liked about that guy.

91 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:48:06pm

re: #79 Cato the Elder

Stephanopoulos is an arrogant little wiener. I haven't watched him in years, and the punditocracy would be none the poorer for his disappearance.

I'm still trying to understand why people didn't think this was exactly what the little freak was gonna do. Look at his resume: Clinton hack, then journo hack. So who can be surprised when he combines the two for Barry?

92 quickjustice  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:48:16pm

Ooops: "Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy", anyone?

93 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:48:29pm

re: #83 buzzsawmonkey

Damned proud, is my guess.

Don't forget that the Party in 1984 was called IngSoc, which stood for English Socialism.

And the current administration is stuck on "Ignorance is strength"

94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:48:37pm

Whoops? Woops? Oops? Oh Crap? Dagnabbit?

Trying to come up with the right quote for George.

95 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:48:42pm

re: #59 SixDegrees

Anyone want to wager on how many other "journalists" in Stephie's position have also participated in such meetings?

"participated" being the key word - Meaning George S. and Carville were actually providing input to the planning of policy rollouts.

Most journalists do not have the experience of a Carville or Stepenoplis, so I would doubt its frequncy.

I agree with those that think this is egregiously bad. If O'reilly, for example, had done something similar with GWB, the MFM would have gone ballistic. Since this is Obama, however, we'll probably only hear about this on the internet.

96 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:48:43pm

Good boys sleep with their hands ABOVE the covers.

Good boys sleep with their hands ABOVE the covers.

Good boys sleep with their hands ABOVE the covers.

Good boys sleep with their hands ABOVE the covers.

Good boys sleep with their hands ABOVE the covers.

Good boys sleep with their hands ABOVE the covers.

97 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:48:55pm

O is looking more and more like a puppet.
(seriously)

98 Racer X  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:49:12pm

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LMAO!

/sorry Ben!

99 LEGION  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:49:18pm

re: #81 Racer X

Yep, thong #2 for me.
/

100 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:49:19pm

re: #19 MandyManners

Can't do that. It's not a regulated field.

Media regulation would be a dangerous argument to make and even as strongly as I feel about the MFM, I would be hesitant.
However, it needs to be said that their blatant partisanship and manipulation begs for something to be done. The media has a tremendous responsibility, especially in our type of government, which is based on an electorate making decisions on the facts presented to them by the media. Any distortion, skewing or outright manipulation of those facts is an assault on the very foundation of our system of government.
An ethical media would understand this and act responsibly. Ours doesn't.

101 Kragar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:49:25pm

re: #88 HoosierHoops

LOL..wondered why you linked to a p0rn site..

Man, if I had a nickel for everytime I almost did that...

102 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:49:32pm

re: #68 MandyManners

Media malfeasance? Is that a cause of action? Who would have standing to sue?

that's one point...this pressure cooker could blow and somebody won't bother with trivials like a law suit...I think there is boo coo reason to fear this stuff

103 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:49:38pm

re: #97 nyc redneck

O is looking more and more like a puppet.
(seriously)

Sad thing is, nobody seems to be pulling his strings.

104 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:49:55pm

Please get my No. 84, Charles.

105 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:50:24pm

re: #98 Racer X

LMAO!

/sorry Ben!

Why are you sorry?

I updinged it!

106 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:50:41pm

re: #84 MandyManners

Weirod.

Don't look.

107 astronmr20  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:50:50pm

We'll see where this goes.

That's right.

We'll see.

Wait for it...


Any time now...

108 quickjustice  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:50:53pm

Still running the "War Room" are they, while cashing ABC's paychecks? Hmmm. What does that make ABC "News"?

109 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:51:00pm
110 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:51:03pm

re: #100 LGoPs

Media regulation would be a dangerous argument to make and even as strongly as I feel about the MFM, I would be hesitant.
However, it needs to be said that their blatant partisanship and manipulation begs for something to be done. The media has a tremendous responsibility, especially in our type of government, which is based on an electorate making decisions on the facts presented to them by the media. Any distortion, skewing or outright manipulation of those facts is an assault on the very foundation of our system of government.
An ethical media would understand this and act responsibly. Ours doesn't.

It's up to the consumers to demand a better product.

111 LEGION  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:51:06pm

re: #103 Guanxi88

Sad thing is, nobody seems to be pulling his strings.

Soros is.

112 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:51:22pm

THANK YOU!

113 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:51:32pm

re: #79 Cato the Elder

Stephanopoulos is an arrogant little wiener. I haven't watched him in years, and the punditocracy would be none the poorer for his disappearance.

Yeah, the format has really gone down hill. I used to like the show when Brinkly chaired and George Will had fire. Now, Will is kinda weasily and the show has now spunk.

114 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:51:32pm

re: #108 quickjustice

Still running the "War Room" are they, while cashing ABC's paychecks? Hmmm. What does that make ABC "News"?

A satellite office, or technical consultants, maybe.

115 Joseph  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:51:45pm

OT but a 'Flying Pig' moment:
Palestinian web site survey has more PaliNazis blaming Hamas than Israel:
http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=Survey&Do=Results&pollID=125
http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=Survey&Do=Results&pollID=125
On second thought, perhaps some of those nasty Zionista operatives have infilitrated!
Heh.

116 Kragar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:51:46pm

re: #112 Ben Hur

THANK YOU!

Sinner

117 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:51:47pm

I am a little embarrassed.

118 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:51:51pm

re: #42 notutopia

No regulations at all, Mandy? Even to a suit for media malfeasance? What about the ABC network? They are legally liable for his actions.

Probably the best that could be done, given our 1st amend., would be a prosecution for illegal campaign contributions using an "in kind" type of payment. I.E. coordinated media coverage that would advance O's agenda and disadvantage their competition. However since there's no longer a campaign the question is moot.

We need a rating system or a licensing fee as we do for other professionals. If these guys want to be able to stick their nose into everything and to claim immunity then they need to be held to some standards. (of course good luck with that!)

119 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:52:03pm

re: #97 nyc redneck

O is looking more and more like a puppet.
(seriously)

certainly...I've believed that all along...there are nefarious doings way above this sock...

120 KibbyKat  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:52:09pm

I wish I could say I'm surprised.

121 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:52:13pm
122 solomonpanting  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:52:17pm
At the outset of Clinton's presidency, Stephanopoulos served as the de facto press secretary, briefing the press even though Dee Dee Myers was officially the White House Press Secretary.

You can take Stephanopoulos out of the Democratic Party position, but you can't take the jackass out of Stephanopoulos.

123 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:52:22pm

re: #59 SixDegrees

Anyone want to wager on how many other "journalists" in Stephie's position have also participated in such meetings?

Given, from the sounds of this, that at least some of these meetings have taken place over the last two weeks - during Obama's Presidency - it would be in the public interest to release any recordings, minutes or other material preserved to document exactly what sort of manipulation may have been overtly promoted, and by whom.

The Left has been whining about the arrival of '1984'-style thought control for years. I wonder how they feel about it now that they're the ones actually bringing it about?

I think they'd be proudly comfortable with it. Double Standard is their battle cry.......
Bastards

124 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:52:22pm

re: #117 Ben Hur

I am a little embarrassed.

Hey, at least that's just egg on your face.

125 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:52:22pm

re: #112 Ben Hur

THANK YOU!

Mixed up the ol' links, huh? That's the down side of having too many windows open.

;-)

126 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:52:30pm

re: #106 CyanSnowHawk

Don't look.

Wait till the Goddess sees that link..very cute

127 mean Gene  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:52:54pm

Sad that we even have people in this country who need to see this in print before they will even think that it had to be going on.
Re-examine the pre-election coordination and you KNOW it had to be happening.

128 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:52:58pm

re: #104 MandyManners

Please get my No. 84, Charles.

Mandy's propagating pr0n links!

129 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:53:07pm

Thanks, Charles!

130 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:53:17pm

re: #92 quickjustice

Ooops: "Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy", anyone?

I liked it the other way around.

131 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:53:27pm

re: #128 CyanSnowHawk

Mandy's propagating pr0n links!

It wasn't porn.

132 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:53:48pm

re: #52 Guanxi88

Makes you wonder what John, Peter, and the other disciples got the first time around, huh?
//

Well we know what Judas got.

133 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:54:10pm

re: #110 MandyManners

It's up to the consumers to demand a better product.

the consumers provide the means for this to happen....jus sayin...Geo is a pretty boy and what's more important than that?....I'm very cynical....I hate the MSM with a passion

134 Kragar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:54:19pm

re: #124 Honorary Yooper

Hey, at least that's just egg on your face.

THATS NOT EGG!

135 funky chicken  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:54:20pm

re: #1 OldLineTexan

HA!

You used "journalistic" and "ethics" in the same sentence.

Um, yes. "journalistic ethics" means about the same thing as "international law." whatever the leftists want it to mean

136 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:54:21pm

What!

137 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:54:43pm

OT and a little known fact.

You dont need evolution when you have cloning.

George W Bush's young clone is actually Ricky Ponting, captain of the Australian cricket team.

138 Orbit Rain  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:54:52pm

...hasn't this been obvious for the last two years to anyone who's listened to what this guy has said on tv and radio? He should have been fired a long time ago...People in my family has watched ABC news for ages, I don't anymore and point out his distortions and discourage watching that network to anyone who cares about getting the truth and fact from their news source...some have seen it for what it is..bullshit...

...and the MSM wonder why their ratings drop and people go on the internet to get their news...

139 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:54:53pm

re: #111 LEGION

Soros is.

There is no way on G-d's good green earth that Soros is benefiting from this idiot man-child's antics and the despicable behavior of his thugs, minions, and water-carriers. Soros? Show me how there's a penny of profit in it, and maybe I'd buy into it.

All this assumes rational (if unreasonable) motives at work; if we consider psychopathology, then maybe, but you'd have to be so f*cking crazy to orchestrate this cluster that we've been seeing so far that you'd almost certainly have been institutionalized or living under a bridge somewhere before you got the chance to try it out.

No, I think the sad secret is that there's nobody in charge; no one is minding the store.

140 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:55:10pm
141 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:55:14pm
142 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:55:42pm

re: #131 MandyManners

It wasn't porn.

I couldn't tell, it's blocked at work. But the comments about it have been phun.

143 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:55:48pm

re: #141 taxfreekiller

Charles,

Get my post no. 832 July 22, 2006

thanks
tfk

A little late, dontcha think, TFK?

144 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:55:59pm

Q: How many Journalists does it take to tell you which way the wind is blowing?

A: It all depends on whether it is blowing right or left.

145 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:56:02pm
146 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:56:12pm

I thought the name George Stuffinenvelopes was good, until I heard George Stepupandpopoffalot.

147 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:56:18pm

re: #103 Guanxi88

Sad thing is, nobody seems to be pulling his strings.

imagine how he feels as he flops around and looks up to see no one at the controls for the important substantive issues.

148 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:56:22pm

re: #142 CyanSnowHawk

I couldn't tell, it's blocked at work. But the comments about it have been phun.

Unfortunately, I did see some of it as it wasn't blocked at work. Not a phun as one would hope.

149 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:56:31pm

re: #68 MandyManners

Media malfeasance? Is that a cause of action? Who would have standing to sue?


Am I on a long shot here....When will we stand up and test a case against the networks who condone this exclusivity in seated selection of reporters to the white house.
Media Malfeasance: Contriving up/Contributing info to your source for your own news stories, for your own network.
Why not just have an ABC Secretary to Obama? In essence that is what this is.
The consumers who have purchased his print would be eligible to sue.

150 vagabond trader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:56:35pm

re: #97 nyc redneck

Sniff sniff, smells like that malevolent little troll Soros is lurking just below the surface of The Obama orgy.

151 quickjustice  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:56:39pm

re: #142 CyanSnowHawk

Scantily clad ladies offering their "services"? Must be female journalists! ;-)

152 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:57:14pm

re: #151 quickjustice

Scantily clad ladies offering their "services"? Must be female journalists! ;-)

Or politicians.

153 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:57:23pm

re: #82 Ben Hur

It's got NSFW all over it.

My bad.

Thanks for the heads up. I won't click.

154 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:57:29pm

re: #147 nyc redneck

imagine how he feels as he flops around and looks up to see no one at the controls for the important substantive issues.

That's the sense I get; he's not up to the task, knows it, but can't figure out what to do. Like the old metaphor of riding a tiger - it's hard to get on, but once you are, you can't get off.

155 Racer X  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:57:35pm

re: #117 Ben Hur

You just check it out for the articles right?

156 Kragar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:57:36pm

re: #150 vagabond trader

Sniff sniff, smells like that malevolent little troll Soros is lurking just below the surface of The Obama orgy.

Please do not use Obama, Soros and orgy in the same sentence EVER again.

You'll give Ben the wrong ideas.

157 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:58:04pm

re: #131 MandyManners

It wasn't porn.


Thank you Potter Stewart

/I know it when I see it

158 quickjustice  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:58:07pm

re: #150 vagabond trader

Soros is known around DC for advocating strongly for legalization of illegal drugs. Rumor has it that he is doing this in his own self-interest. Draw your own conclusions.

159 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:58:12pm
160 vagabond trader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:58:18pm

re: #156 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gah, I just made myself ill.

161 Kragar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:59:25pm

re: #160 vagabond trader

Gah, I just made myself ill.

You think thats bad. I just imagined George Soros calling Michelle his Chocolate Fantasy.

162 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:59:40pm

re: #139 Guanxi88

There is no way on G-d's good green earth that Soros is benefiting from this idiot man-child's antics and the despicable behavior of his thugs, minions, and water-carriers. Soros? Show me how there's a penny of profit in it, and maybe I'd buy into it.

All this assumes rational (if unreasonable) motives at work; if we consider psychopathology, then maybe, but you'd have to be so f*cking crazy to orchestrate this cluster that we've been seeing so far that you'd almost certainly have been institutionalized or living under a bridge somewhere before you got the chance to try it out.

No, I think the sad secret is that there's nobody in charge; no one is minding the store.

As I and a few others on LGF have pointed out; this is the Alinsky model for politics. Constant turmoil and chaos. Worked well for Marx too.

163 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 2:59:58pm
164 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:00:04pm

re: #161 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You think thats bad. I just imagined George Soros calling Michelle his Chocolate Fantasy.

I had no idea Soros was a sub.

165 AKforty777  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:00:25pm

Current ABC news headline story: Jet Company Allegedly Risked Celebs' Lives for Cheap Fuel. That is something we should all be concerned about.

166 quickjustice  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:00:25pm

re: #157 DeafDog

Potter "Whizzer" Stewart, football hero of yore! Was it Yale? ;-)

167 SixDegrees  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:00:49pm

re: #66 Jetpilot1101

I'm sure the tapes have already been burned. The dems aren't stupid, there are probably no records of these meetings/phone calls and if there were, they have already been destroyed.

Apparently, the fact of these meetings and Stephie's participation is already out there. Under Federal law, the Executive Branch must preserve the records of all meetings that pertain to policy - emails, phone logs, minutes, audio/video recordings and so on. These policies have been in place for decades and are well understood and practiced, and even the appearance of violating them is a very serious matter; deliberate destruction of such records is a blatant crime. In short, there's really no getting away from the fact that these records exist, and if they don't there's been an extremely serious breach of Federal law.

They may be able to withhold them under privacy arguments; Cheney was successful at this when Congressional Democrats demanded to see his appointment calendar, while on a fishing expedition over alleged meetings with oil company executives while crafting energy policy. But in this case, the appearance of collusion between the Administration and the media may be a matter of direct public concern.

And, after all, wasn't one of Obama's pledges during his campaign to bring a more transparent, open Administration to the White House?

Someone needs to bring pressure along these lines. The dilemma - acknowledge an overt collusion with the media, or stonewall and deny the public the right to know how this Administration is actually operating - is too delicious.

I wonder of any GOP Congressmen or Senators are up to the task?

168 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:01:02pm

Links to fascists.....now this.

Is the end of The Hur so far off?

169 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:01:25pm

re: #139 Guanxi88

There is no way on G-d's good green earth that Soros is benefiting from this idiot man-child's antics and the despicable behavior of his thugs, minions, and water-carriers. Soros? Show me how there's a penny of profit in it, and maybe I'd buy into it.

All this assumes rational (if unreasonable) motives at work; if we consider psychopathology, then maybe, but you'd have to be so f*cking crazy to orchestrate this cluster that we've been seeing so far that you'd almost certainly have been institutionalized or living under a bridge somewhere before you got the chance to try it out.

No, I think the sad secret is that there's nobody in charge; no one is minding the store.

Soros is a behind this. He wants to bring the U.S. to its knees.

170 sngnsgt  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:01:35pm

re: #158 quickjustice

He's doing drugs in his own self-interest? /

171 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:01:47pm
172 RightKlik  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:01:47pm

Did anyone read George's article about why Daschle withdrew his nomination? It takes on a totally different flavor when you realize that George is a de facto member of the Obama administration.
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

173 gymnast  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:02:19pm

Perhaps the Alinskyites have overlooked the possibility that if this crap keeps up, there will be blood.

174 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:02:21pm
175 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:02:55pm

re: #149 notutopia

Am I on a long shot here....When will we stand up and test a case against the networks who condone this exclusivity in seated selection of reporters to the white house.
Media Malfeasance: Contriving up/Contributing info to your source for your own news stories, for your own network.
Why not just have an ABC Secretary to Obama? In essence that is what this is.
The consumers who have purchased his print would be eligible to sue.

I don't see it standing up under a motion of summary judgment because I don't see a cause of action.

176 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:03:02pm

re: #162 Soona'

As I and a few others on LGF have pointed out; this is the Alinsky model for politics. Constant turmoil and chaos. Worked well for Marx too.

Eh, maybe, but it's a messy way to do things. I am familiar with the whole idea of creating hundreds and thousands of minor crises in rapid succession as a way to engender a revolutionary atmosphere, but don't think it really works out like that. See, to my mind, a two-pronged strategy, with agitators on the street and Gramscians within the institutions, that would pay dividends, but just stirring up crap doesn't do anything for anybody.

And I go back to my original observation - nobody's in charge. Barry thought he wanted the job, but somehow, never quite realized that he might get it, and so never gave any thought to what he would do once in office.

177 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:03:03pm

re: #133 albusteve

the consumers provide the means for this to happen....jus sayin...Geo is a pretty boy and what's more important than that?....I'm very cynical....I hate the MSM with a passion

Ditto, as they say. Here's a little rant you might enjoy.

178 opnion  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:03:06pm

Interesting story about Stephanopolus. His father was a Greek Orthodox priest. He grew up in a Conservative Republican household.
He went to Washington to try to find a job with A Republican Senator or House member. For whatever reason that did not work out. He did catch on however with a Democrat & voila! He becomes a Liberal Democrat.

179 vagabond trader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:03:32pm

I am soo sick of this corporate cap bs. If you were so damned concerned Mr President, why did you vote for a bailout of these guys with no oversight in place whatsoever.What a cheap grandstander.With all due respect, shuddup!

180 DeafDog  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:03:37pm

re: #166 quickjustice

I looked it up and he did go to yale, but I did not see a football credential....Maybe You're thinking of Sherman T. Potter?

181 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:03:47pm

re: #139 Guanxi88

There is no way on G-d's good green earth that Soros is benefiting from this idiot man-child's antics and the despicable behavior of his thugs, minions, and water-carriers. Soros? Show me how there's a penny of profit in it, and maybe I'd buy into it.

All this assumes rational (if unreasonable) motives at work; if we consider psychopathology, then maybe, but you'd have to be so f*cking crazy to orchestrate this cluster that we've been seeing so far that you'd almost certainly have been institutionalized or living under a bridge somewhere before you got the chance to try it out.

No, I think the sad secret is that there's nobody in charge; no one is minding the store.

There are a long series of exposes on Soros that are scary beyond belief. Here's one of them:
[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

I wouldn't dismiss his influence lightly or his motivations to hurt America, regardless of the cost to him........

182 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:04:25pm

re: #136 Walter L. Newton

What!

What indeed. Wouldnt work.

183 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:04:52pm

Lunchtime.

BBIW

184 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:05:30pm

re: #177 jcw46

Ditto, as they say. Here's a little rant you might enjoy.

heh...I'm not that windy

185 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:05:36pm

re: #139 Guanxi88

There is no way on G-d's good green earth that Soros is benefiting from this idiot man-child's antics and the despicable behavior of his thugs, minions, and water-carriers. Soros? Show me how there's a penny of profit in it, and maybe I'd buy into it.

All this assumes rational (if unreasonable) motives at work; if we consider psychopathology, then maybe, but you'd have to be so f*cking crazy to orchestrate this cluster that we've been seeing so far that you'd almost certainly have been institutionalized or living under a bridge somewhere before you got the chance to try it out.

No, I think the sad secret is that there's nobody in charge; no one is minding the store.

His ROI is the destruction of capitalism in the West. He's a Marxist.

186 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:06:21pm

Comrades, this represents a glorious new level of fusion of the Party and the Approved Organs of Media! We should all rejoice at this increased level of efficiency. Information production is up 27% as a result!

187 ted  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:06:23pm

re: #64 taxfreekiller


"They also exchange underwear weekly, one week panties one week other men's drawers thongs."

Fixed.

188 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:06:39pm

re: #169 MandyManners

Soros is a behind this. He wants to bring the U.S. to its knees.

It may be, and he may even have thought that he could use the One to attain his goals, but I think he and those who thought of Barry as an instrument of their will are beginning to realize that he's a capricious child at best. Unreliable, arrogant, all the rest of it; he'll be hard to control, and, now that he's in power and continuing to perpetuate and grow his own little personality cult, he's a little more formidable than he was a few months ago. No, I think it's like this - Barry's making it up as he goes along; there's a reason he has a tele-prompter at every event, and why he's never had an article published in a peer-reviewed publication or forum. There's no there there.

189 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:06:55pm

OMG! local Fox channel is running the Simpson's epi wher Homer joins the Krusty Klown College. This has to be one of the best ones of all time

190 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:07:08pm

re: #181 LGoPs

I wouldn't dismiss his influence lightly or his motivations to hurt America, regardless of the cost to him........

He's not in it for the money. He'd make more money with a healthy capitalistic USA.

191 bellamags  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:07:18pm

re: #136 Walter L. Newton

What!

my cockatiel used to do that. so CUTE!

192 Ben Hur  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:07:22pm

BBL

193 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:07:38pm

re: #169 MandyManners

Soros is a behind this. He wants to bring the U.S. to its knees.

Look at my # 181

194 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:08:13pm

Never forget: Stephanopoulos is the man who called Florida for Gore before the polls closed. He may be the man most directly responsible for the disputed election and recount, subsequent attempts to discredit the legitimacy of Bush, and the eventual outbreak of BDS, making even leading Dems feel comfortable calling our Nation's President a "miserable failure" and "loser" in public.

It's all related.

195 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:08:26pm

re: #171 buzzsawmonkey

Mother of Mercy, is this the end of Rico?

top of the world Ma! top of the world!

196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:08:29pm

re: #182 A Kiwi Infidel

What indeed. Wouldnt work.

Twas the voice of our dear Walter and his number one parrot! Cool Walter.

197 Adrenalyn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:09:00pm

this reminds me of a link, now I can't find it
that was on zombietime
about Reuters collaborating with the Nazis

wish I could find the link to it again
so relevant to today's administration

/note to self - buy ammo

198 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:09:05pm

re: #168 Ben Hur

Links to fascists.....now this.

Is the end of The Hur so far off?

There's a radio station here in DC called WHUR. They used to have ads up in the Metro with the slogan, "Get Your HUR On." Wish I had stolen one for you.

199 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:09:28pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

Comrades, this represents a glorious new level of fusion of the Party and the Approved Organs of Media! We should all rejoice at this increased level of efficiency. Information production is up 27% as a result!

*snicker*

200 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:09:36pm

re: #175 MandyManners

I don't see it standing up under a motion of summary judgment because I don't see a cause of action.

You know the legal in's and out far better than I, Mandy.
I respect your opinion and will hope that the media fucks up to the extent that an honest Senator or Congressman lawyer will find a cause of action that will stop this kind of allowance by the MSM networks.

201 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:10:12pm

re: #188 Guanxi88

It may be, and he may even have thought that he could use the One to attain his goals, but I think he and those who thought of Barry as an instrument of their will are beginning to realize that he's a capricious child at best. Unreliable, arrogant, all the rest of it; he'll be hard to control, and, now that he's in power and continuing to perpetuate and grow his own little personality cult, he's a little more formidable than he was a few months ago. No, I think it's like this - Barry's making it up as he goes along; there's a reason he has a tele-prompter at every event, and why he's never had an article published in a peer-reviewed publication or forum. There's no there there.

He knows EXACTLY what he's doing.

202 Adrenalyn  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:10:26pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

Comrades, this represents a glorious new level of fusion of the Party and the Approved Organs of Media! We should all rejoice at this increased level of efficiency. Information production is up 27% as a result!

can we make that "information creation" instead of production ?

203 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:10:46pm

re: #182 A Kiwi Infidel

What indeed. Wouldnt work.

I got it. takes awhile to load. Walter you're too close to the mike; it was hard to hear maisey.

204 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:10:46pm

re: #176 Guanxi88

Eh, maybe, but it's a messy way to do things. I am familiar with the whole idea of creating hundreds and thousands of minor crises in rapid succession as a way to engender a revolutionary atmosphere, but don't think it really works out like that. See, to my mind, a two-pronged strategy, with agitators on the street and Gramscians within the institutions, that would pay dividends, but just stirring up crap doesn't do anything for anybody.
And I go back to my original observation - nobody's in charge. Barry thought he wanted the job, but somehow, never quite realized that he might get it, and so never gave any thought to what he would do once in office.

But they are in our institutions. Have been for about 30 years now and their shit is working, especially in education. That's how the hell they got this guy elected........

205 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:10:49pm

George Stephanopoulos - propagandizing Obama media tool.

/easy as ABC

206 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:11:12pm

re: #193 LGoPs

Look at my # 181

One of my favorite articles about Soros.

207 vagabond trader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:11:21pm

re: #190 Silhouette

Healthy economic conditions are not what interests Soros.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Hmm, insider info, bank takeovers, nah, can't happen here.

208 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:11:32pm

re: #191 bellamags

my cockatiel used to do that. so CUTE!

Thanks. It's not working for some people. It's in AVI format, and maybe that doesn't work on Mac video players or something. I know it plays through Windows Media Player. Maybe I should convert it to some other format.

Any suggestions? I have a good media converter, paid for it and all.

209 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:11:55pm

Oh hey, look at that. The Dow closed below 8000 again.

7956.66 Down 1.51% on the day.

210 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:12:08pm

re: #196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Twas the voice of our dear Walter and his number one parrot! Cool Walter.

No, I wasn't naked! The parrot was.

211 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:12:10pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

Comrades, this represents a glorious new level of fusion of the Party and the Approved Organs of Media! We should all rejoice at this increased level of efficiency. Information production is up 27% as a result!


HAHAHAHAHA. ........ That's not funny.

212 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:12:21pm

re: #162 Soona'

As I and a few others on LGF have pointed out; this is the Alinsky model for politics. Constant turmoil and chaos. Worked well for Marx too.

Aha- the Democrats are controlled by The Shadows.
The Shadows are one of the two ancient races who stayed behind to help the younger races develop. The other is the Vorlons (who all seem to be called "Kosh").
The Shadows believe that chaos will bring the advancement they want, while the Vorlons believe in strict order (with them in control).

213 bellamags  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:12:49pm

George Stuphitupurass

214 opnion  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:12:51pm

Obama mentioned today that he wants to help people with obesity & smoking. Yet he needs to raise the Federal income tax on cigarettes to finance S CHIP.
See he want's you to smoke. Obama is trying to kill people!
What next , Solyent Green?

215 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:13:03pm

re: #200 notutopia

You know the legal in's and out far better than I, Mandy.
I respect your opinion and will hope that the media fucks up to the extent that an honest Senator or Congressman lawyer will find a cause of action that will stop this kind of allowance by the MSM networks.

Ummmmmm...it'd be tossed for being unconstitutional.

It's up to the consumers of the MFM to make it shape up.

216 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:13:37pm

Look, regarding Soros - yes, the man's a dirt-bag beyond redemption. I think it was Thailand? (One of those southeast asian nations, anyway) got their currency wrecked by the guy for gain. I don't put the willful destruction of a nation past him; but the profit in wrecking us is unclear. He wants to remake society, fine. Like a lot of folks, he thinks he can guide and direct smooth and likely demagogues (Barry, of course) to attain his ends. Well and good.

But the thing is, it's very hard to control guys like that, especially if you're a plutocrat trying to stir up socialist fervor for your own benefit. They'll turn on you the first chance they get.

With Barry, I think his big-money backers thought there was so little to the man that they could do with him as they wished. The cavernous void that is his character can be filled by any number of apparently mutually-contradictory hopes, expectations, and projections (his most fervent followers know next to nothing about the man that they haven't made up themselves).

So, the guy's a zero. This, we know already, but what nobody expected is that he's a zero with ideas (however confused) of his own.

217 Kragar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:13:56pm

re: #212 Kosh's Shadow

Aha- the Democrats are controlled by The Shadows.
The Shadows are one of the two ancient races who stayed behind to help the younger races develop. The other is the Vorlons (who all seem to be called "Kosh").
The Shadows believe that chaos will bring the advancement they want, while the Vorlons believe in strict order (with them in control).

Yeah, but the Vorlons were assholes too.

218 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:03pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

No, I wasn't naked! The parrot was.

WHAT?

219 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:03pm

re: #201 MandyManners

"EXACTLY" is a bit generous. I believe he knows what he used to want to do, but he is beginning to see that some of those wants are gonna have to go unrequited.
The question is whether or not Obama has the native intelligence to find a new solution to problems that confound his past sensibilities.

220 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:10pm
At the end of the SCHIP signing, a member of the press corps jumped the rope penning off reporters to get an autograph from POTUS. Secret Service swooped in and stopped him. An Obama aide said the man is still being held by Secret Service. No details yet on the reporter's name or publication. -- Carol E. Lee (5:48 p.m.)
221 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:30pm

re: #201 MandyManners

He knows EXACTLY what he's doing.


Without a paper trail to pigeon-hole him. Never seen anyone of his age and 'accomplishments' without a paper trail.

222 bellamags  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:30pm

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

i dont have a clue. i just clicked it and media player opened after it downloaded. i have windows xp - if that helps. maybe save it in a different format like .wav?

223 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:31pm

But But But But
Stephanopoulos just reports the facts. Ask Oberdork.

224 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:31pm

re: #218 MandyManners

WHAT?

[Link: home.comcast.net...]

225 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:31pm

re: #212 Kosh's Shadow

Just to make it clear, that was a reference to a science fiction show, not something I believe. (Forgot to say where it is from, but the Wiki link does)

226 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:33pm

re: #197 Adrenalyn

this reminds me of a link, now I can't find it
that was on zombietime
about Reuters collaborating with the Nazis

wish I could find the link to it again
so relevant to today's administration

/note to self - buy ammo


Hey it hasn't been so long ago that we found out CNN was cooperating with coopted by Sadaam.

227 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:14:40pm

re: #214 opnion

Obama mentioned today that he wants to help people with obesity & smoking. Yet he needs to raise the Federal income tax on cigarettes to finance S CHIP.
See he want's you to smoke. Obama is trying to kill people!
What next , Solyent Green?

WTF?

228 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:15:09pm

re: #199 MandyManners

*snicker*

Laughter at our Dear Leader's approved organs is prohibited, Comrade!

You also may not criticize his package. Or his stimulus. Or make light of his nemesis, Boehner.

229 vagabond trader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:15:23pm

re: #216 Guanxi88

Follow the money. Socialists have a strange attachment to it. Lots of it.

230 bellamags  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:15:44pm

re: #216 Guanxi88

Look, regarding Soros - yes, the man's a dirt-bag beyond redemption. I think it was Thailand? (One of those southeast asian nations, anyway) got their currency wrecked by the guy for gain. I don't put the willful destruction of a nation past him; but the profit in wrecking us is unclear. He wants to remake society, fine. Like a lot of folks, he thinks he can guide and direct smooth and likely demagogues (Barry, of course) to attain his ends. Well and good.

But the thing is, it's very hard to control guys like that, especially if you're a plutocrat trying to stir up socialist fervor for your own benefit. They'll turn on you the first chance they get.

With Barry, I think his big-money backers thought there was so little to the man that they could do with him as they wished. The cavernous void that is his character can be filled by any number of apparently mutually-contradictory hopes, expectations, and projections (his most fervent followers know next to nothing about the man that they haven't made up themselves).

So, the guy's a zero. This, we know already, but what nobody expected is that he's a zero with ideas (however confused) of his own.

I don't think Soros is interested in making a profit just yet.

231 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:15:50pm

re: #219 Lincolntf

"EXACTLY" is a bit generous. I believe he knows what he used to want to do, but he is beginning to see that some of those wants are gonna have to go unrequited.
The question is whether or not Obama has the native intelligence to find a new solution to problems that confound his past sensibilities.

He's a stone-cold Marxist in my opinion.

232 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:15:55pm

re: #220 Typicalwhitey

At the end of the SCHIP signing, a member of the press corps jumped the rope penning off reporters to get an autograph from POTUS. Secret Service swooped in and stopped him. An Obama aide said the man is still being held by Secret Service. No details yet on the reporter's name or publication. -- Carol E. Lee (5:48 p.m.)

It was the "Socialist Workers World News."
/

233 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:16:03pm

re: #198 Occasional Reader

There's a radio station here in DC called WHUR. They used to have ads up in the Metro with the slogan, "Get Your HUR On." Wish I had stolen one for you.

Hur you go.

234 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:16:03pm

re: #217 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, but the Vorlons were assholes too.

Yes, those who believe in strict order usually are, with a stick up their asses as well.
That's why I'm Kosh's Shadow, not Kosh.

235 nyc redneck  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:16:14pm

re: #150 vagabond trader

Sniff sniff, smells like that malevolent little troll Soros is lurking just below the surface of The Obama orgy.

yes, like a rat.

236 abolitionist  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:16:18pm
... news that Stephanopoulos has participated in daily phone strategy sessions with now White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel throughout his tenure at ABC.

Stephanopoulos - "There's a gentleman named William Ayers..."
We know how that went.

At then time, it sounded like Stephanopoulos was being tough on a candidate, no?

On a hunch, I searched on "Rahm Emanuel" Axelrod.
At top of hits list, at Huffpo:

Rahm Emanuel And David Axelrod: The Closest Of Friends

This stinks on ice.

237 faraway  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:16:20pm

Comrade Obama, what are my orders? How much money can I make today?

238 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:16:33pm

re: #221 rightymouse

Without a paper trail to pigeon-hole him. Never seen anyone of his age and 'accomplishments' without a paper trail.

Finding this out was one of the first things that scared me about CBBHO.

239 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:16:54pm

re: #219 Lincolntf

"EXACTLY" is a bit generous. I believe he knows what he used to want to do, but he is beginning to see that some of those wants are gonna have to go unrequited.
The question is whether or not Obama has the native intelligence to find a new solution to problems that confound his past sensibilities.

re: #221 rightymouse

Without a paper trail to pigeon-hole him. Never seen anyone of his age and 'accomplishments' without a paper trail.

See, this is what makes me suspect there's nothing to him but arrogance and self-conceit; no spy or double-agent could have come from a background like his and left ABSOLUTELY NO TRACE that he was ever there. Nobody's got a history as empty as this guy's. It's like he doesn't even exist.

240 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:17:08pm

re: #214 opnion

Obama mentioned today that he wants to help people with obesity & smoking. Yet he needs to raise the Federal income tax on cigarettes to finance S CHIP.
See he want's you to smoke. Obama is trying to kill people!
What next , Solyent Green?

Can you see it this coming Christmas, Obama and Michelle singing "Solyent Night."

241 CynicalConservative  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:17:15pm

re: #214 opnion

Obama mentioned today that he wants to help people with obesity & smoking. Yet he needs to raise the Federal income tax on cigarettes to finance S CHIP.
See he want's you to smoke. Obama is trying to kill people!
What next , Solyent Green?

It's a win win for them, they get a bunch of folks to quit smoking thus denying the schip program the necessary funding requiring another wealth redistribution tax increase to pay for it.

242 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:17:23pm

re: #213 bellamags

George Stuphitupurass

NO that was Sandy Burglar.

243 mattm  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:17:29pm

Journalism and ethics do not mix today.

244 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:17:36pm

re: #230 bellamags

I don't think Soros is interested in making a profit just yet.

it would be naive to think that Soros will be out in the cold should the Republic fall...he will have goods and services at whatever price he wants

245 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:17:43pm

re: #231 MandyManners

And Marxism stone-cold fails every time.

He's going to be forced to come up with a Plan B.

246 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:17:43pm

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

[Link: home.comcast.net...]

What a neat companion, Walter. Does she say anything else?

247 vagabond trader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:17:49pm

Mark Levin is flaming everyone, lol.

248 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:18:04pm

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

[Link: home.comcast.net...]

Scared the shit out of my dog.

249 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:18:09pm

re: #217 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yeah, but the Vorlons were assholes too.

That really gets to one of our most primal fears: That 1) yes, there is other intelligent life in the Universe, but 2) they're all assholes.

250 bellamags  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:18:14pm

re: #242 jcw46

NO that was Sandy Burglar.

LOL.

251 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:18:23pm

re: #246 notutopia

What a neat companion, Walter. Does she say anything else?

"What!"

252 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:18:39pm

re: #228 Occasional Reader

Laughter at our Dear Leader's approved organs is prohibited, Comrade!

You also may not criticize his package. Or his stimulus. Or make light of his nemesis, Boehner.

He has a Boehner against him?

253 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:18:51pm

re: #176 Guanxi88

Eh, maybe, but it's a messy way to do things. I am familiar with the whole idea of creating hundreds and thousands of minor crises in rapid succession as a way to engender a revolutionary atmosphere, but don't think it really works out like that. See, to my mind, a two-pronged strategy, with agitators on the street and Gramscians within the institutions, that would pay dividends, but just stirring up crap doesn't do anything for anybody.

And I go back to my original observation - nobody's in charge. Barry thought he wanted the job, but somehow, never quite realized that he might get it, and so never gave any thought to what he would do once in office.

In order to create a perception of chaos and crisis, there has to be some chaos and crisis. In America, this can work either for you or against you. Most of us are still free-thinking people. And we gather and discuss in places like LGF, gather information and make somewhat logical decisions as to the direction the nation should take. But, thanks to the education system we have today and the MSM, they're betting that most Americans would rather take orders from the person who suddenly swoops in and saves the day. Half that plan has been manifested with the election of the zero.

254 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:18:56pm

re: #248 MandyManners

Scared the shit out of my dog.

My voice or the parrot?

255 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:19:19pm

re: #245 Lincolntf

And Marxism stone-cold fails every time.

He's going to be forced to come up with a Plan B.

ha...after how long...50-100 yrs?....hardly ressuring

256 Occasional Reader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:20:09pm

re: #252 MandyManners

He has a Boehner against him?

He wrestles with Boehner on almost a daily basis! But at long last, he has Boehner within his grasp.

257 opnion  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:20:18pm

re: #227 MandyManners

WTF?

Yeah, he wants everybody to quit smoking , but is raising the federal tax on a pack to $1.00 to finanance S Chip.

258 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:20:31pm

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

Hey Steve, lighten up and go visit my parrot...
What!

259 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:21:08pm

re: #255 albusteve

He's not immortal. And if reason reigns, he's not even re-electable.

260 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:21:14pm

re: #238 MandyManners

Finding this out was one of the first things that scared me about CBBHO.

Really bothered me as well. Very disconcerting.

He'll have a paper trail now. That's for sure.

261 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:21:18pm

re: #243 mattm

Journalism and ethics do not mix today.

We need to start demanding that they do. Anything less and we're just asking to be mind-f*cked.......er....I mean.... brainwashed.

262 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:21:18pm

re: #243 mattm

Journalism and ethics do not mix today.

Neither does politicians and ethics

263 notutopia  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:21:43pm

re: #251 Walter L. Newton

"What!"

My four cats are staring at my PC speakers! Ears are doing the 180 degree rotation and their eyes are dilated!
Tooo funny!
Lmao!

264 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:21:59pm

re: #240 Walter L. Newton

Can you see it this coming Christmas, Obama and Michelle singing "Solyent Night."

You'll get your choice of Soylent Ham or Soylent Turkey from your community organizer.
They're both green because they don't have the greenhouse emissions of meat!

265 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:22:02pm

re: #220 Typicalwhitey

The press is SUPPOSED to be the fourth estate, watchmen watching the government for the people. A line of defense.

What they ARE is a bunch of 14-yr-old teeny boppers screaming and fainting over their pop idol.

266 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:22:10pm

Gotta' go finish dinner. bbl

267 opnion  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:22:22pm

re: #240 Walter L. Newton

Can you see it this coming Christmas, Obama and Michelle singing "Solyent Night."

Will probably replace the National Anthem, since Barry is not into "Easy" patriotism & well that Anthem............

268 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:22:30pm

re: #240 Walter L. Newton

Can you see it this coming Christmas, Obama and Michelle singing "Solyent Night."

*WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK*

You owe me a keyboard, dude.

269 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:22:50pm

re: #265 Silhouette

The press is SUPPOSED to be the fourth estate, watchmen watching the government for the people. A line of defense.

What they ARE is a bunch of 14-yr-old teeny boppers screaming and fainting over their pop idol.

The press is now aligned with the government against us.

/the checks and balances are gone.

270 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:23:08pm

re: #263 notutopia

My four cats are staring at my PC speakers! Ears are doing the 180 degree rotation and their eyes are dilated!
Tooo funny!
Lmao!

Maisey the Parrot is always responding to "noise" coming from the computer screen. She likes Killgore's links to Bollywood music videos the best. Screeches right along with them.

271 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:23:11pm
re: #218 MandyManners

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

No, I wasn't naked! The parrot was.


WHAT?

WHAT?

272 LGoPs  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:23:39pm

re: #259 Lincolntf

He's not immortal. And if reason reigns, he's not even re-electable.

I'm pessimistic. Reason requires critical thinking and critical thinking has been surgically removed from our education system and hence a large proportion of our population.

273 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:23:47pm
274 quickjustice  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:24:01pm

re: #178 opnion

I know Stephanopolos's father, Father Robert Stephanopolos. He works, or used to work, at the Greek Orthodox Cathedral in Manhattan, NYC. When George was growing up, they were missionaries on an Indian Reservation in North Dakota (IIRC). I'd be surprised to learn that any of them ever were conservative Republicans!

275 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:24:12pm

re: #245 Lincolntf

And Marxism stone-cold fails every time.

I was just on a socialism webpage that like always made excuses for why socialism/communism kept failing, but theirs was especially entertaining.

It was because Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. were secret capitalists.

276 Kragar  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:24:19pm

re: #268 rightymouse

*WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK*

You owe me a keyboard, dude.

Were you checking out Ben Hur's earlier link?

277 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:24:38pm

Ot topic update...

Don't forget, tonight, ABC, the next, new episode of L O S T, "The Little Prince."

Watch it.

278 opnion  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:25:12pm

Since I worked at home today, it is my turn to make dinner.
Soooooooo, I am off to pick up the pizza.
See y'all later.

279 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:25:16pm

re: #237 faraway

Comrade Obama, what are my orders? How much money can I make today?

Comrade Obama: If I don't get my 'Trillion Buck Pay-out' TOMORROW **stomps feet** you'll be out on the streets suppressing riots! Got it? I won! ...and I want my money NOW! Screw it. Someone take Comrade faraway out back - he's officially off the payroll, physically & fiscally.

...and do have a wonderful day.

280 screaming_eagle  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:26:04pm

re: #273 buzzsawmonkey

The checks are being kited as we speak.

Funny how the gov can keep it going. Throw us in jail for it.

281 Kenneth  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:26:21pm

re: #253 Soona'

Didn't Naomi Klein write about that in Shock Doctrine? Oh wait, it's only big bad neo-cons who do that shock & change thing.

282 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:26:56pm

re: #239 Guanxi88

See, this is what makes me suspect there's nothing to him but arrogance and self-conceit; no spy or double-agent could have come from a background like his and left ABSOLUTELY NO TRACE that he was ever there. Nobody's got a history as empty as this guy's. It's like he doesn't even exist.

You don't read Ludlum, do you?

Seriously, that makes "O" the best kind of mole. You must have forgot your sarc tag.

283 Lincolntf  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:26:57pm

re: #277 Walter L. Newton

I was afraid that I'd never get back into that show after a long (possibly strike-induced?) hiatus, but the wife and I are hooked again. There have been a few shark jumps (and time-travel always gives the writers an easy out), but it's starting to cleave to a coherent story line again.

284 opnion  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:27:05pm

re: #274 quickjustice

I know Stephanopolos's father, Father Robert Stephanopolos. He works, or used to work, at the Greek Orthodox Cathedral in Manhattan, NYC. When George was growing up, they were missionaries on an Indian Reservation in North Dakota (IIRC). I'd be surprised to learn that any of them ever were conservative Republicans!

I heard that in an interview with Stephanopolous right after the Clinton years. I recall he just nodded in the affirmative.

285 Killian Bundy  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:27:12pm
ABC's Stephanopoulos Violating Journalistic Ethics?

/he's a Bonkey, what's the problem?

286 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:27:14pm

re: #272 LGoPs

I'm pessimistic. Reason requires critical thinking and critical thinking has been surgically removed from our education system and hence a large proportion of our population.

exactly...it's less whether BO is a genius or an idiot....the end result lies with the electorate...that was my point above...if the people want socialism they will have it...whether BO leads from the front or pushes from behind

287 Soona'  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:27:26pm

re: #240 Walter L. Newton

Can you see it this coming Christmas, Obama and Michelle singing "Solyent Night."

LOL. Good one!

288 Ojoe  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:27:33pm

Cranky Michael Savage goes on about the "Government Media Complex" sometimes.

Here you see it, he's right.

289 Summersong  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:27:44pm

re: #277 Walter L. Newton

Ot topic update...

Don't forget, tonight, ABC, the next, new episode of L O S T, "The Little Prince."

Watch it.

Too much to ask if earlier time zones do not give too much away chatting here? (sigh) probably.

290 Racer X  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:28:10pm

Hillbilly

291 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:28:11pm

re: #280 screaming_eagle

Funny how the gov can keep it going. Throw us in jail for it.

No, not funny at all.

292 funky chicken  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:28:38pm

re: #165 AKforty777

Current ABC news headline story: Jet Company Allegedly Risked Celebs' Lives for Cheap Fuel. That is something we should all be concerned about.

I support this program whole-heartedly!

/well...I do.

293 Silhouette  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:28:45pm

Walter, I'm beginning to suspect that your parrot is the reincarnation of King George III of England.

Was there ever such stuff as great as part of Shakespeare? Only one must not say so! But what think you? - What? - Is there not sad stuff? What? - What?

and

and he masked awkward silences with his incessant verbal tic, 'What? what?'
294 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:28:48pm

'Doctor Death', the world's most wanted Nazi war criminal, 'died in Egypt in 1992'


The world's most wanted Nazi war criminal - who carried out appalling experiments on conscious human subjects - is believed to have died in Egypt, it has emerged.

Aribert Heim, known as 'Doctor Death', lived under a pseudonym and died in Cairo in 1992, according to a German television channel.

ZDF says it found Heim's passport and other personal documents in a hotel where he had lived since the late 1960s.
...
Researchers believe that he converted to Islam and even claim to have interviewed Heim's son, confirming that he died in 1992. If he was alive today, he would be 94.
...
'We like to think of South America as being the sanctuary of Nazis, but this proves that Islamic states were just as happy to play host to them after the war.

'This was partly because some Islamic states agreed with the Nazis' hatred of the Jews and also these people were wanted for their scientific knowledge.

'There were always rumours during the 1950s that Egypt had Nazi scientists and they were working on weapons to launch against Israel.'

295 Summersong  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:28:49pm

Wait, time zones can't type!

296 reine.de.tout  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:28:54pm

This is too funny.

Short video of a 7-year-old after a visit to the dentist for some oral surgery

Youtube Video
297 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:29:00pm

re: #275 Silhouette

I was just on a socialism webpage that like always made excuses for why socialism/communism kept failing, but theirs was especially entertaining.

It was because Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. were secret capitalists.


HAHAHAHAHAHA! With their logic, one must conclude that Soros is as well.

298 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:29:14pm

re: #290 Racer X

Hillbilly

Saver

299 Digital Display  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:30:13pm

re: #277 Walter L. Newton

Ot topic update...

Don't forget, tonight, ABC, the next, new episode of L O S T, "The Little Prince."

Watch it.

American Idol dude...:)

300 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:30:14pm

Britain's Foreign Secretary David Miliband on Wednesday called for new talks between major powers aimed at ridding the world of nuclear weapons.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Morons on both side of the pond.

301 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:30:15pm

re: #294 Killgore Trout

Did you get the memo, time to remind you , watch LOST. ABC is going to owe me extra this year for pimping double time for you.

302 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:30:24pm

re: #276 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Were you checking out Ben Hur's earlier link?

No. Missed that one.

303 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:31:00pm

re: #301 Walter L. Newton

Thanks for the reminder. I'm looking forward to it.

304 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:31:12pm

re: #282 rightymouse

You don't read Ludlum, do you?

Seriously, that makes "O" the best kind of mole. You must have forgot your sarc tag.

Here's the thing about that - if we go too far down that particular road, we end up in Crazyville. There's no way a conspiracy could ever function so effectively to suppress the man's background. Why do we know next to nothing about him? Because there's next to nothing to know about him.

Me? I'm a pretty non-descript guy; you pass hundreds like me every day in any major city and we barely register. And yet, dig around a bit, and you can find out all sorts of things about me - I've known people, I've left a trail with every action I've taken. Barry hasn't left this trail because he hasn't done anything. I repeat, the man's a void, a null. Wanna go Taoist? He's the uncarved block, pu through and through.

305 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:31:28pm

re: #299 HoosierHoops

American Idol dude...:)

I saw that on Nov. 4th, 2008. And see what we got.

306 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:31:56pm
307 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:32:41pm

re: #303 Killgore Trout

Thanks for the reminder. I'm looking forward to it.

Evidently it will be Aaron centric, the title "The Little Prince."

308 funky chicken  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:33:13pm
See, to my mind, a two-pronged strategy, with agitators on the street and Gramscians within the institutions, that would pay dividends, but just stirring up crap doesn't do anything for anybody.

And I go back to my original observation - nobody's in charge. Barry thought he wanted the job, but somehow, never quite realized that he might get it, and so never gave any thought to what he would do once in office.

William Ayers qualifies as both, correct? Somebody most definitely is in charge...but it most certainly ain't Barry. And Barry has no idea of the endgame or even the daily/weekly plan. That's what makes it seem like nobody is in charge.

309 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:33:58pm

re: #303 Killgore Trout

Thanks for the reminder. I'm looking forward to it.

I'm gettin a stiffy just thinking about it

310 Nevergiveup  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:34:06pm

Slow news day I see

311 albusteve  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:35:56pm

they should make a new show called 'America Lost'....a contest to determine the stupidest Drooler in the country or whatever

312 quickjustice  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:36:00pm

Oops! It was Byron "Whizzer" White, football star.

313 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:36:07pm

re: #304 Guanxi88

Here's the thing about that - if we go too far down that particular road, we end up in Crazyville. There's no way a conspiracy could ever function so effectively to suppress the man's background. Why do we know next to nothing about him? Because there's next to nothing to know about him.

Me? I'm a pretty non-descript guy; you pass hundreds like me every day in any major city and we barely register. And yet, dig around a bit, and you can find out all sorts of things about me - I've known people, I've left a trail with every action I've taken. Barry hasn't left this trail because he hasn't done anything. I repeat, the man's a void, a null. Wanna go Taoist? He's the uncarved block, pu through and through.


I'd like to believe what you say is true - pu and all. The problem is that once he got into the Senate, the avoidance behaviors seemed purposeful. One could posit that it was because he had no clue how to vote at any given moment. Do you believe that he's that stupid or ignorant?

Now, it is true that he has little to none real accomplishments to bark about. How did he get to be President, then? Sheer luck? Stupidity? There was a ton of funny money behind him. Why? And from where, exactly?

314 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:36:34pm

re: #309 albusteve

I'm gettin a stiffy just thinking about it

You too!

315 jcw46  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:36:54pm

re: #271 jcw46

WHAT?

I get so much of a kick out that because one of my favorite scenes is from Pulp Fiction:

Jules: What does Marsellus Wallace look like?
Brett: What?
Jules: [overturns the small table in the room] What country are you from?
Brett: What?
Jules: "What" ain't no country I ever heard of! They speak English in "What"?!
Brett: What?
Jules: English, motherf*cker! Do you speak it?!
Brett: Yes!
Jules: Then you know what I'm saying. Describe what Marsellus Wallace looks like!
Brett: What?
Jules: [points gun at Brett] Say "what" again. Say "what" again! I dare you! I double-dare you, motherf*cker! Say "what" one more g!ddamn time!
Brett: He-he's black.
Jules: Go on!
Brett: He's bald.
Jules: Does he look like a b*tch?
Brett: What?!
Jules: [shoots Brett in the shoulder, Brett screams] Does he look... like... a b*tch?!
Brett: [in pain] No-o!

316 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:38:11pm

re: #308 funky chicken

William Ayers qualifies as both, correct? Somebody most definitely is in charge...but it most certainly ain't Barry. And Barry has no idea of the endgame or even the daily/weekly plan. That's what makes it seem like nobody is in charge.

It may be you're correct. At some level, it would even be comforting in a way to know that somebody knew what was going on. But I think nobody knows what's happening. I think this whole thing is an unmitigated catastrophe, a comedy of errors, and that Barry never really expected to be elected the first time out of the box. I really don't.

But, if he is in, and he is being manipulated, it can't be the money-men doing it. Look at Lenin - very well-funded, he was, and, having used the funds to secure his position, he created a fortress-nation that was in a state of constant war against the West for 70 years. He didn't fall in line with expectations. Fellows who backed another demagogue, a few years later and a little further West (hoping to skirt Godwin's law by putting it this way) were similarly surprised when their puppet cut the strings and did his own thing. Barry might have a surprise or two left in him, but I suspect that if his strings were cut, his ego would hold him up.

317 clgood  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:39:47pm

"Journalistic ethics".

Charles made a funny.

Heh.

318 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:44:06pm

re: #313 rightymouse

The problem is that once he got into the Senate, the avoidance behaviors seemed purposeful. One could posit that it was because he had no clue how to vote at any given moment. Do you believe that he's that stupid or ignorant?

Now, it is true that he has little to none real accomplishments to bark about. How did he get to be President, then? Sheer luck? Stupidity? There was a ton of funny money behind him. Why? And from where, exactly?

Sadly, I think he's that empty. The man craves approval, and fears rebuke (hence the absence of firm positions, the willingness to change and turn around on a dime) and will say or do anything necessary to keep himself in a positive light. I'm no professional, but his chaotic childhood and flaky mother could explain a lot of what we see in the man. The desire for approval, I mean, his constant need to show off how clever, smart, and righteous he is, coupled with his willingness to go along in unacceptable, but accepting, company (Trinity, Ayers, et al.). He strikes me as a bright, insecure undergrad humanities major.

How did he get to be President? Right place, right time, and a whole lotta backing from exactly the wrong sort of people, as you mentioned. Is he their tool? I doubt it. Do they think he can be manipulated? Very probably. Do they think he would be the one most likely to either support their goals or fail to act against them? Most certainly.

319 Scion9  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:48:19pm

#216
Soros flipped Malaysia. He is wanted there. We won't extradite him because they would kill him. He did some heavy damage to France too.

320 vagabond trader  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:49:09pm

Meanwhile, yaaaawwwwn, Schip bill just signed, first step to roping y'all into the cozy womb of socialism.

[Link: blog.heritage.org...]

321 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:55:26pm

I love it:

Apprehending suspects in foreign countries does not always involve controversial tactics(got that?). U.S. counterterrorism officials also use tactics abroad that are not forbidden under U.S. law, though they might be illegal if used within the United States (and could well be illegal in the country where U.S. agents employ them).
322 lostlakehiker  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:55:39pm

Why not cut out the middleman and have Obama write columns for the New York Times and read the evening news?

Good evening. Today, the president announced that the daily calorie ration would be increased from 1500 to well over one whole thousand. Millions of Americans across the nation rejoiced. We spoke to one rejoicer:

I'm on an ultra skinnyfast diet, but even I couldn't make the kind of headway I'm making today. The pounds just melt away!


And that's the way it is.

Thank you, Mr. President.

It's so nice I could have myself on my show.

Come again any time.

323 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 3:57:04pm

re: #318 Guanxi88

Sadly, I think he's that empty. The man craves approval, and fears rebuke (hence the absence of firm positions, the willingness to change and turn around on a dime) and will say or do anything necessary to keep himself in a positive light. I'm no professional, but his chaotic childhood and flaky mother could explain a lot of what we see in the man. The desire for approval, I mean, his constant need to show off how clever, smart, and righteous he is, coupled with his willingness to go along in unacceptable, but accepting, company (Trinity, Ayers, et al.). He strikes me as a bright, insecure undergrad humanities major.

How did he get to be President? Right place, right time, and a whole lotta backing from exactly the wrong sort of people, as you mentioned. Is he their tool? I doubt it. Do they think he can be manipulated? Very probably. Do they think he would be the one most likely to either support their goals or fail to act against them? Most certainly.


There are certainly a lot of psychological factors involved with the man - one does not need to be a professional psychologist or psychiatrist to see the patterns of emotional instability, identity confusion and rejection in his early life. He obviously has been involved with unsavory characters as an adult and did not reject them or their awful ideologies. That shows a distinct lack of judgement or ideological agreement. Did he use these people or did they use him? Perhaps it's symbiotic.

We'll have to see, won't we?

324 rightymouse  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:02:58pm

re: #318 Guanxi88


BTW - as an addendum to my last post. Why is exactly that Obama doesn't even own his Chicago home? Why is it in another person's name?

325 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:09:29pm

re: #324 rightymouse

BTW - as an addendum to my last post. Why is exactly that Obama doesn't even own his Chicago home? Why is it in another person's name?

That's a good question. Par for the course.

326 kansas  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:16:48pm

Journalistic ethics. Now there's a hoot. MSNBC is doing stories on how easy it is to screw up your taxes, nobody mentions how stupid Nancy Pelosi is, the President of the United States says "I screwed up" and every day his mug is on TV what's left in my stock accounts go down even more.

Jimmy Carter never looked so good.

327 Sheepdogess  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 4:51:39pm

And let's not forget his Muslim faith.

Youtube Video
328 FrogMarch  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:07:10pm
Stephanopoulos has participated in daily phone strategy sessions with now White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel throughout his tenure at ABC.

DNC media. State run media.

329 Throbert McGee  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:09:27pm

re: #21 Steve Rogers

Stephanopoulos will have to take his blue shirt in to get cleaned any day now.

I'm sure that, unlike young Ms. Lewinsky, Stephanopoulos is experienced enough to avoid accidental drips.

330 abolitionist  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:11:09pm

re: #327 Sheepdogess

Stephanopoulos again, as interviewer, so I have to wonder how much of this was scripted.

331 meh130  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:36:18pm

I see no issue here. Stephanopoulos is not a journalist, and never has been. He is a political operative.

332 Noah's Arrrgh  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:37:42pm

This reminds me of a scene in Casablanca:

Youtube Video
333 Perplexed  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 5:44:03pm

Liberal journalists have ethics? Never in 1/0 years.

334 Sheepdogess  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:05:47pm

re: #332 Noah's Arrrgh

This reminds me of a scene in Casablanca:


The older I get, the more I appreciate this movie.

335 The Optimist  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 6:54:24pm

Hey I see George Stephanopoulos at the Starbucks on 19th and M st NW in the mornings. No way he could be talking with the White House. Its at least 6 blocks in the other direction.

336 Rthor  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:14:58pm

335 vl

19th and M, NW...are you sure that isn't the ballet?

337 William  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:31:46pm

The entire notion of an "ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent George Stephanopoulos" is a joke.

Can you imagine this: "ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent Karl Rove"?

Didn't think so.

338 Miss Molly  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 9:43:26pm

Recuse him? No way! That little jerk Georgie needs to be fired!

339 SixDegrees  Wed, Feb 4, 2009 11:51:47pm

re: #322 lostlakehiker

Why not cut out the middleman and have Obama write columns for the New York Times and read the evening news?

Good evening. Today, the president announced that the daily calorie ration would be increased from 1500 to well over one whole thousand. Millions of Americans across the nation rejoiced. We spoke to one rejoicer:


And that's the way it is.

Thank you, Mr. President.

It's so nice I could have myself on my show.

Come again any time.

Sounds like the weekly Hugo Chavez show.

340 mrkwong  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 1:47:49am

I have to ask, is this really news?

I mean, fer chrissake, kick David Axelrod in the groin and half the press will be unable to type for a week.

341 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 7:15:17am

re: #17 pink freud

It's my understanding that James Carville also sits in on these sessions with Rahm Emmanuel.

pink freud -

I don't mind Carville as much - His Pillow Talk comes from Mary Matlin.

-S-

342 eaglewingz08  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 8:20:42am

Gee, if it had been Tony Snow or Bret Hume giving strategy sessions to former Pres Bush, you would be seeing articles from the journo schools on ethics failures, calls for them to resign, etc., but not one of those events have occurred. Why, but for media lib bias, would that be the case?
I call on all republican officeholders who appear on Steph's show to call him out on his daily meetings, asking him whether Steph's White House call that particular morning requested he ask that question or raise those issues with his guest(s). The more Steph is pilloried by his guests on this issue, the more it will rear its head to the powers that be at ABC.

343 RickatLandstuhl  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 9:05:02am

re: #117 Ben Hur

Aw, it's alright...a lot of us have Parochial School issues....

Good Boy...

344 RickatLandstuhl  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 9:21:15am

So, we now have a two-fer, MSNBCDNCTV and ABCBHOTV, which MFM will be next in the race for the most obvious?


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