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I have certain rules I live by. My first rule: I don’t believe anything the government tells me.

George Carlin

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1 Macker  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:11:19pm

God, I need a drink. F.I.I.F.

2 Erik The Red  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:11:26pm

It was George the Mailman's last day on the job after 35 years of carrying the mail through all kinds of weather to the same neighborhood. When he arrived at the first house on his route, he was greeted by the whole family who congratulated him and sent him on his way with a tidy gift envelope.

At the second house, they presented him with a box of fine cigars. The folks at the third house handed him a selection of terrific fishing lures.

At the fourth house, he was met at the door by a strikingly beautiful blonde woman in a revealing negligee. She took him by the hand, gently led him through the door, which she closed behind him, and took him up the stairs to the bedroom where she blew his mind with the most passionate love he had ever experienced.

When he had enough, they went downstairs and she fixed him a giant breakfast: eggs, potatoes, ham, sausage, blueberry waffles, and fresh-squeezed orange juice. When he was truly satisfied, she poured him a cup of steaming coffee. As she was pouring, he noticed a dollar bill sticking out from under the cup's bottom edge. "All this was just too wonderful for words," he said, "But what's the dollar for?"

"Well," she said, "Last night, I told my husband that today would be your last day, and that we should do something special for you. I asked him what to give you. He said, 'Screw him. Give him a dollar.' The breakfast was my idea."

3 gmsc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:11:30pm

Get to know the lyrics of this song if the spendulus passes:

4 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:13:04pm

So. Anyone want to talk about Dianetics?

/

5 Erik The Red  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:13:40pm

An old man sitting at the mall watched a teenager intently. The teenager had spiked hair in all different colors: green, red, orange, and blue. The old man kept staring at him.
When the teenager was tired of being stared at, he sarcastically asked, "What's the matter, old man? Never did anything wild in your life?"
The old man did not bat an eye when he responded, "Got drunk once and had sex with a peacock. I was just wondering if you were my son."

6 logboy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:13:43pm

"If I were giving advice to myself back on the day my candidacy was announced, I'd say, Tell the campaign that you'll be callin' some of the shots"

~Sarah Palin

7 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:13:51pm

On my way to see The Presidents of the United States of America! Rock on dudes and dudettes!

8 gmsc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:14:20pm
9 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:14:45pm

re: #4 karmic_inquisitor

So. Anyone want to talk about Dianetics?

/

Please, tell me more. here's a big pile of cash I don't really need. let me make a full and complete confession of my deepest fears, darkest secrets, that kinda stuff, on a recorder, to make sure I can get a good audit from the tech.

///

10 Confuzed  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:15:20pm

100 questions Obama will never ask to Islamic leaders.
Part 2 of a 10-part series.

11. Didn't Mohammed's arms get tired when he personally beheaded between 600-900 bound and defenseless Jewish captives in one day Medina in 627 A.D.?

12. Isn't Mohammed considered a pedophile because when he was 51, he married Aisha who was only 6?

13. Why did Mohammed wait 3 long years to deflower Aisha (he was 54, she was 9)?

14. Are pre-pubescent girls really allowed to be divorced (Koran 65:4)?

15. When Mohammed ordered all dogs to be killed because Gabriel didn't visit him (angels don't make visits to houses with dogs and pictures), did that include cute puppies?

16. Does abrogation really mean that later, violent verses make null and void earlier, peaceful verses in the Koran?

16. Does the 1st sentence in the Koran really begin with "This book is not to be doubted."?

17. Was Mohammed really the only man in the world to have as many wives as he wanted according to G*d (Koran 33:50)?

18. Is domestic violence, wife and sex-slave beating really allowed (Koran 4:34)?

19. With all Mohammed's wives and sex-slaves, why wasn't he able to conceive a son?

20. Is alcohol really forbidden on earth as a sin (Koran 5:90), but a reward in heaven (Koran 37:47)?

11 Erik The Red  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:16:20pm

One day Mrs. Jones went to have a talk with the minister at the local church. "Reverend," she said, "I have a problem, my husband keeps falling asleep during your sermons. It's very embarrassing. What should I do?"

"I have an idea," said the minister. "Take this hatpin with you. I will be able to tell when Mr. Jones is sleeping, and I will motion to you at specific times. When I motion, you give him a good poke in the leg."

In church the following Sunday, Mr. Jones dozed off. Noticing this, the preacher put his plan to work. "And who made the ultimate sacrifice for you?" he said, nodding to Mrs. Jones.

"Jesus!", Jones cried as his wife jabbed him the leg with the hatpin.

"Yes, you are right, Mr. Jones," said the minister. Soon, Mr. Jones nodded off again. Again, the minister noticed. "Who is your redeemer?" he asked the congregation, motioning towards Mrs. Jones.

"God!" Mr. Jones cried out as he was stuck again with the hatpin.

"Right again," said the minister, smiling. Before long, Mr. Jones again winked off. However, this time the minister did not notice. As he picked up the tempo of his sermon, he made a few motions that Mrs. Jones mistook as signals to bayonet her husband with the hatpin again.

The minister asked, "And what did Eve say to Adam after she bore him his 99th son?"

Mrs. Jones poked her husband, who yelled, "You stick that g_ddamned thing in me one more time and I'll break it in half and shove it up your ass!"

"Amen," replied the congregation.

12 Syrah  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:16:26pm

re: #2 Erik The Red

"When he had enough, . . . "

The story lost all suspension of disbelief at that point..

13 gmsc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:16:34pm

re: #7 bigpapa

On my way to see The Presidents of the United States of America! Rock on dudes and dudettes!

Study hard, because we're going to quiz you when you get back!

14 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:17:37pm

re: #4 karmic_inquisitor

So. Anyone want to talk about Dianetics?

/

Beer works for me, most of the time. If that fails, I see a doctor.

15 skicougar  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:18:13pm

More Alice in Wonderland on countdown.

Tonight and this week’s shows gave more of Keith being oblivious to actual history and even MSNBC having trouble showing Obama in good light; very entertaining. If they just had hot news chicks, I’d never need to change channels.

Fineman on Obama– “confusion of tone” Way to go President ! That staying on message thing is a little harder when the whole world hits you in the face every day. No wonder the Obama’s wanted to get out of the white house to the local school recently.

Olberman on Obama – to fineman “has to win this or gets eliminated ?”
>What happened to the hope ? Personally, I ‘hope’ Obama figures it out or its going to hurt the whole country, but it doesn’t look good so far, unless you’re a socialist. Seems even a committed leftist can read the handwriting.

Olberman – “republican deregulation of the past 28 years precipitated these times”
>Excuse me ? the past 8 maybe, but the previous 20 known as the Reagan revolution and the contract with america gave dramatic economic growth, debt reduction and spread freedom throughout the world at extremely high levels and most Americans would agree with this. It’s pretty hard to find a lot of people looking down on the years of 1980 to 2000. Way to be blind Keith.

And from Monday: “So, the president has his own attorney general and an unusual commerce secretary. But his Pentagon chief and generals, of course, are left over from the previous administration. Are they fighting him now on his timetable for troop withdrawals from Iraq? And who wins that? The brass hats emboldened by seven years of a militarily obsessed White House or a president who is, no matter what other gifts he might or might not have or might yet have, still a rookie?”

>Ok, Gregg is widely recognized as one of the best senators on business and US commerce. Did Keith think Rangel, Frank or Dodd would be a better pick ? You really have to question a Columbia education when Keith is that dense.

>And, he still has his teeth in the Iraq bone. All accounts are that Iraq is off and running. The recent election gave way to less hardliners and groups backed by Iran and more support for Maliki as leader. You can still hate why the war was started, but to keep dumping on what looks like a democracy that’s almost ready to take the training wheels off is just spiteful. Let it go Keith, your fight is now which way the US economy goes, house dem or house gop. My evidence is his very next section where obama says, “that we are in a position to start putting more responsibility on the Iraqis. And that‘s good news for not only the troops in the field, but their families who are carrying an enormous burden.”

>But, back to tonight. Olberman goes off on Cheney for wanting to keep Gitmo open, when 61 former detainees have been re-captured on the battlefield. Olberman also questioned Cheney’s want to keep detainees out of US prisons. Someone should inform dear Keith that much like Christian prison ministers have had positive effects on some prisoners, muslim ministers and muslim cellmates have had the positive results of bringing prisoners closer to fundamentalist islam. If I thought Keith wouldn’t burn it, I’d send him my copy of, “My year inside radical islam”; he might learn just what fundamental islam is really teaching.

Now, I don’t watch much TV; I like to watch c-span and get it without the commentary; but the guys that think Keith, Chris and Rachel aren’t out on a limb; check yourself; you may just be out there with them.

16 Macker  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:18:18pm

re: #3 gmsc

The Rex should be Demo☭ratic Blue.

17 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:18:49pm

re: #9 Guanxi88

Please, tell me more. here's a big pile of cash I don't really need. let me make a full and complete confession of my deepest fears, darkest secrets, that kinda stuff, on a recorder, to make sure I can get a good audit from the tech.

///

You know - that just triggered an insight.

Is Obama really just another L. Ron Hubbard?

18 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:19:30pm

No! These PUSAs!

19 Syrah  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:20:35pm

re: #17 karmic_inquisitor

You know - that just triggered an insight.

Is Obama really just another L. Ron Hubbard?

Are we CLEAR on this?

20 gmsc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:21:19pm

re: #18 bigpapa

No! These PUSAs!

I like the options in the sidebar - "Lump", "Gump", "Jump", etc.

21 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:21:36pm

re: #10 Confuzed

100 questions Obama will never ask to Islamic leaders.
Part 2 of a 10-part series.

11. Didn't Mohammed's arms get tired when he personally beheaded between 600-900 bound and defenseless Jewish captives in one day Medina in 627 A.D.?

12. Isn't Mohammed considered a pedophile because when he was 51, he married Aisha who was only 6?

13. Why did Mohammed wait 3 long years to deflower Aisha (he was 54, she was 9)?

14. Are pre-pubescent girls really allowed to be divorced (Koran 65:4)?

15. When Mohammed ordered all dogs to be killed because Gabriel didn't visit him (angels don't make visits to houses with dogs and pictures), did that include cute puppies?

16. Does abrogation really mean that later, violent verses make null and void earlier, peaceful verses in the Koran?

16. Does the 1st sentence in the Koran really begin with "This book is not to be doubted."?

17. Was Mohammed really the only man in the world to have as many wives as he wanted according to G*d (Koran 33:50)?

18. Is domestic violence, wife and sex-slave beating really allowed (Koran 4:34)?

19. With all Mohammed's wives and sex-slaves, why wasn't he able to conceive a son?

20. Is alcohol really forbidden on earth as a sin (Koran 5:90), but a reward in heaven (Koran 37:47)?

Ya know, not so hard to make an equally unpleasant list from my own religious documents.

As for Aisha, despite the intense ick factor, I doubt that marrying very young girls for political reasons was unique to Mohammed, and he doesn't seem to have made a pattern of it.

Meanwhile, I'm having my own patient ongoing argument with Jewish fundamentalists who cannot be convinced that Rebecca was not three years old when she married Isaac.

22 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:21:53pm

re: #19 Syrah

Are we CLEAR on this?

Nice use of the lingo, there. Muy bien.. Still, gotta watch out for SP's, or you'll never make SEAORG, let alone OT.

23 logboy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:24:12pm

Actress accuses Palin of 'senseless savagery' over hunting of wolves


ASHLEY Judd, the Hollywood star, has accused Sarah Palin of "senseless savagery" over controversial plans to step up the slaughter of wolves and bears by helicopter hunters in Alaska.

The actress, who is married to the Scottish racing driver Dario Franchitti, has fronted a scathing attack on Alaska's Republican governor on behalf of the animal action group Defenders of Wildlife, which condemns the practice of aerial hunting as brutal and unnecessary.

Apparently this naive bunny hugger has never seen a pack of wolves start to eat an animal while its still alive.

24 Syrah  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:25:01pm

re: #22 Guanxi88

Nice use of the lingo, there. Muy bien.. Still, gotta watch out for SP's, or you'll never make SEAORG, let alone OT.

We don't want to get Audited now do we

25 realwest  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:25:14pm

Well y'all it's been grand but I gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Good night, all.

26 iLikeCandy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:25:42pm

re: #4 karmic_inquisitor

So. Anyone want to talk about Dianetics?

/

Only if the snark factor exceeds that on Tom Cruise's imdb page.

27 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:26:05pm

re: #23 logboy

Actress accuses Palin of 'senseless savagery' over hunting of wolves


Apparently this naive bunny hugger has never seen a pack of wolves start to eat an animal while its still alive.

Clearly, it was necessary for Mrs. Palin to shoot the wolves. They might have eaten her instead. If they could leap high enough to get into the helicopter.

28 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:26:10pm

re: #24 Syrah

We don't want to get Audited now do we

Which do you suppose costs more: an IRS audit or a Scientology audit?

29 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:27:37pm

re: #23 logboy

Actress accuses Palin of 'senseless savagery' over hunting of wolves


Apparently this naive bunny hugger has never seen a pack of wolves start to eat an animal while its still alive.

We wouldn't need to shoot wolves if they would just make sure their food was dead before eating it.

Wow. I'm up way too late. Is Ashley Judd related to Naomi and Wynonna?

30 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:27:54pm

re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist

Clearly, it was necessary for Mrs. Palin to shoot the wolves. They might have eaten her instead. If they could leap high enough to get into the helicopter.

Problem is, there's too many freakin' caribou around - wolves breed like mad; gotta cull them same as you cull the deer back east, or the whole lot of em starve to death.

31 Macker  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:28:17pm

re: #28 Guanxi88

Which do you suppose costs more: an IRS audit or a Scientology audit?

Yes.

32 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:28:34pm

re: #31 Macker

Yes.

that is the correct answer.

33 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:28:53pm

re: #32 Guanxi88

that is the correct answer.

Both cost more; nice catch.

34 Guanxi88  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:29:27pm

So, how long before I get sued by the Scient...

Oh wait! I think I just did.

35 logboy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:30:14pm

re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist

Clearly, it was necessary for Mrs. Palin to shoot the wolves. They might have eaten her instead. If they could leap high enough to get into the helicopter.

Since you didn't use the sarc tag, is it safe to assume you are another anti gun bunny hugger as well?

36 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:30:25pm

Hi there, lizards, just checking in at my usual time. Is this a "clambake" thread?

37 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:30:58pm

I think Maureen Dowd actually came up with a Latin verb for "to shoot wolves from a helicopter" when she wrote her column in Latin about the election.

38 Syrah  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:31:13pm

re: #28 Guanxi88

Which do you suppose costs more: an IRS audit or a Scientology audit?

The IRS will only take everything you own. Compared to what the Scientologist will take from you, the IRS is cheap.

39 Erik The Red  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:31:49pm

A man and his ever-nagging wife went on vacation to Jerusalem.

While they were there, the wife passed away. The undertaker told the husband, "You can have her shipped home for $5,000, or you can bury her here, in the Holy Land , for $150."

The man thought about it and told him he would just have her shipped home.

The undertaker asked, "Why would you spend $5,000 to ship your wife home, when it would be wonderful to be buried here and you would spend only $150?"

The man replied, "Long ago a man died here, was buried here, and three days later he rose from the dead. I just can't take that chance".

40 logboy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:32:28pm

re: #30 Guanxi88

Problem is, there's too many freakin' caribou around - wolves breed like mad; gotta cull them same as you cull the deer back east, or the whole lot of em starve to death.

Our wolf problem is out of control here in Northern WI. We had the worst deer harvest numbers in many years. The problem with wolves is that they have predator other than man. If they are not kept in check, they kill and eat everything.

41 logboy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:34:14pm

re: #40 logboy

Our wolf problem is out of control here in Northern WI. We had the worst deer harvest numbers in many years. The problem with wolves is that they have no known predator other than man. If they are not kept in check, they kill and eat everything.

Sorry, its late. I left out a couple words.

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:34:17pm

re: #35 logboy

Since you didn't use the sarc tag, is it safe to assume you are another anti gun bunny hugger as well?

Eh, not a loaded question at all, is it? I'm not anti-gun, although I was never as into shooting as my dad would like. I do adore me some cute animals, though, and hug them frequently.

Mainly, I was just amused at the idea that wolves being predators was some sort of reason to hunt them. I assume they're hunted, as referenced above, for sport and to keep the animal populations balanced.

43 Erik The Red  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:34:21pm

Larry gets home late one night and his wife, Linda, says, "Where in the hell have you been?"

Larry replies, "I was out getting a tattoo."

A tattoo?" she frowned. "What kind of tattoo did you get?" "I got a hundred dollar bill on my privates," he said proudly.

"What the hell were you thinking?" she said, shaking her head in disdain. "Why on earth would an accountant get a hundred dollar bill tattooed on his privates?"

"Well, one, I like to watch my money grow.
Two, once in a while I like to play with my money.
Three, I like how money feels in my hand.
And, lastly, instead of you going out shopping, you can stay right here at home and blow a hundred bucks anytime you want!"

44 pat  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:35:05pm

I never believed anything Carlin told me.

45 SurferDoc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:35:42pm

re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist

We wouldn't need to shoot wolves if they would just make sure their food was dead before eating it.

Wow. I'm up way too late. Is Ashley Judd related to Naomi and Wynonna?

Daughter of Naomi, sister of Wynona.

46 varmint  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:36:01pm

re: #4 karmic_inquisitor

somebody just handed me a copy of "the secret". dianetics is not half so insane.

47 Erik The Red  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:36:26pm

The manager hired a new secretary. She was young, sweet, and polite.

One day while taking dictation, she noticed his fly was open. While leaving the room, she courteously said, "Oh sir, did you know that your barracks door was open." He did not understand her remark, but later on happened to look down and saw that his zipper was open.

He decided to have some fun with his new employee. Calling her in, he asked, "By the way, Miss Jones, when you saw my barracks door open this morning, did you also see a soldier standing at attention?"

The secretary, who was quite witty, replied, "Why, no sir, all I saw was a little disabled veteran, sitting on two duffel bags!"

48 gmsc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:36:43pm

0bama Clock

1444.5 days to go!

49 pat  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:37:07pm

re: #40 logboy

Madison makes for good wolf hunting. Slow witted, terrible at running, do not believe in carnivores. Perfect.

50 gmsc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:37:36pm

re: #44 pat

I never believed anything Carlin told me.

"Never believe what I say."
-George Carlin

Do you believe him when he said that or not?

51 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:37:36pm

re: #46 varmint

somebody just handed me a copy of "the secret". dianetics is not half so insane.

Is that the one where you visualize stuff you want and it sort of magnetizes to you? I read a novel a while back where the heroine's sister is into that, and refuses to look at her sister because she's afraid that seeing fat people will make her fat.

52 HelloDare  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:37:52pm

re: #10 Confuzed

100 questions Obama will never ask to Islamic leaders.
Part 2 of a 10-part series.

HERE ARE THE ANSWERS OBAMA WOULD GET IF HE DID ASK.

11. Didn't Mohammed's arms get tired when he personally beheaded between 600-900 bound and defenseless Jewish captives in one day Medina in 627 A.D.?

No. He's a manly man.

12. Isn't Mohammed considered a pedophile because when he was 51, he married Aisha who was only 6?

No. He waited till she was 9 to consummate the marriage.

13. Why did Mohammed wait 3 long years to deflower Aisha (he was 54, she was 9)?

Hey, he's got standards. It's not like he's a pig or something.

14. Are pre-pubescent girls really allowed to be divorced (Koran 65:4)?

No. What the hell do they know about marriage?

15. When Mohammed ordered all dogs to be killed because Gabriel didn't visit him (angels don't make visits to houses with dogs and pictures), did that include cute puppies?

Allah-damn puppies aren't cute.

16. Does abrogation really mean that later, violent verses make null and void earlier, peaceful verses in the Koran?

No. You can have it both ways. That's the beauty of Islam.

16. Does the 1st sentence in the Koran really begin with "This book is not to be doubted."?

Why are you doubting this?

17. Was Mohammed really the only man in the world to have as many wives as he wanted according to G*d (Koran 33:50)?

Yeah. And you got stuck with Michelle. Bwahahahaha.

18. Is domestic violence, wife and sex-slave beating really allowed (Koran 4:34)?

Who are you to judge another culture.

19. With all Mohammed's wives and sex-slaves, why wasn't he able to conceive a son?

I can't hear you. WAH-WAH-WAH-WAH-WAH

20. Is alcohol really forbidden on earth as a sin (Koran 5:90), but a reward in heaven (Koran 37:47)?

Yes, alcohol is strictly forbidden, unless you're a mullah. Or just before you become a martyr. Or if you can score a bottle of 1787 Chateau d'Yquem.

53 pat  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:38:23pm

re: #50 gmsc

what a coincidence!

54 gmsc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:38:55pm

re: #46 varmint

somebody just handed me a copy of "the secret". dianetics is not half so insane.

I remember someone asked me what "The Secret" was about. I said, "It's trying to propogate the belief that 6 million Jews died in WWII because they had poor visualization skills."

Yeah, that effectively tends to discourage people from reading the book.

55 MrPaulRevere  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:40:25pm

I have a rhetorical question. If, as VP Biden has said paying taxes makes one a patriot, is not Tom Daschle guilty of treason ?

56 pat  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:40:34pm

Alcohol is not forbidden to Muslims, only wine. The old text is clear. Modern Muslims, not so much.

57 varmint  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:41:30pm

re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist

yes. my boss, my employer, the woman i am financially dependent on handed it to me. she has been raving about the positive effects the book has had on her personal and business life.

i am updating the resume. time to run.

58 logboy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:41:36pm

re: #42 SanFranciscoZionist

Eh, not a loaded question at all, is it? I'm not anti-gun, although I was never as into shooting as my dad would like. I do adore me some cute animals, though, and hug them frequently.

Mainly, I was just amused at the idea that wolves being predators was some sort of reason to hunt them. I assume they're hunted, as referenced above, for sport and to keep the animal populations balanced.

That is absolutely why they are hunted, to keep populations at acceptable levels. My point is that accusing Palin of savagery for allowing the killing of wolves (one of the most savage creatures in nature) is purely idiotic. Of course its people like Judd who think we should all be eating tofu and soy and wearing organic hemp clothes. The closest any of those assclowns will get to nature is watching Animal Planet.

59 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:42:52pm

So the son of a mafia man was getting married and it's a tradition for the father to give a special gift to his son before the marriage. The old guy has his son come by for the gift. Dad presents the beautifully wrapped gift to his son and the son says. "Papa. you shouldn't have", and proceeds to open the gift. "A gun, Papa, I would have thought you would have got me a watch?" The Papa says, "Son, she seems like a nice girl but you just never know. You might come home early one day and find her in bed with another man. What ya gonna say? "Time to go?"

60 stevieray  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:43:39pm

re: #46 varmint

somebody just handed me a copy of "the secret". dianetics is not half so insane.

The secret of books like "The Secret" is that they get their followers up off of their asses, and turn them into active participants in their own lives. The biggest impediment to success, at least in the developed world, is yourself -- and the first step to doing anything is to try.

61 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:44:14pm

re: #56 pat

Alcohol is not forbidden to Muslims, only wine. The old text is clear. Modern Muslims, not so much.

There's a scene in the The Thirteenth Warrior based around that. Still, if you look at the culture of, say, medieval Spain, wine was socially accepted in some traditional Muslim cultures. Turks, I think, have always been pretty casual about booze.

Was reading an article some years back about Uzbeks being concerned that the Taliban might try to take control. One guy said grimly to the reporter, "If they get in here, they'll take away our vodka."

62 logboy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:44:24pm

re: #49 pat

Madison makes for good wolf hunting. Slow witted, terrible at running, do not believe in carnivores. Perfect.

I am 100% for it. Let the wolves run wild in "The Peoples Republic" of Madison. When all the pet poodles start turning up as wolf shit in their back yards they'll change their tone.

63 BatGuano  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:45:58pm

re: #50 gmsc

I remember George Carlin from the mid 60's. HE was funny. He went seriously wrong when he became a neo-liberal.

64 iLikeCandy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:46:41pm

re: #57 varmint

yes. my boss, my employer, the woman i am financially dependent on handed it to me. she has been raving about the positive effects the book has had on her personal and business life.

i am updating the resume. time to run.

Damn, you can't run now! That's a logline for a funtabulous conversation.

65 Erik The Red  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:46:42pm

re: #56 pat

Alcohol is not forbidden to Muslims, only wine. The old text is clear. Modern Muslims, not so much.

I stand to be corrected but I have heard that the largest market for Johnny Walker Black scotch is Saudi Arabia.

66 pat  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:47:08pm

Actually, wolves are not that savage, although very few modern animals, and I believe no mammal, out of Africa, could fight off a pack. Dogs are more savage, as are foxes and coyotes. But when a wolf pack in the wild gets down to business, beware. Fortunately, wolves hate people unless they are raised from puppies. Cro-magnon saw to that. Found them tasty.

67 gmsc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:47:08pm

A guy here in Las Vegas was just arrested for an interesting scam.

He would go to people's houses with a box full of light bulbs, and he would offer to take out all your old light bulbs, and put in new light bulbs, all for only $10! This sounded like a great deal to most people, especially as they'd spend more than $10 just buying the bulbs, never mind the time to put them in.

Why was this a scam?

The guy bought 25 new light bulbs, and approached the 1st house. This first lucky guy actually got a good deal, because he was actually getting a house full of new light bulbs for $10 (no charges are pressed concerning this first person).

The con artist then took the bulbs he removed from the first house, went to another house, and gave the same offer.

By the time this guy has finished 10 houses, he's got $100 in his pocket, and still has the same number of light bulbs he started with!

The charges mostly involve fraud, as this guy claimed he was installing brand new bulbs, which he wasn't.

68 logboy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:47:33pm

re: #63 BatGuano

I remember George Carlin from the mid 60's. HE was funny. He went seriously wrong when he became a neo-liberal.

I'll take Carlin over Lewis Black.

69 varmint  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:47:35pm

re: #54 gmsc

as i read it, i thought "if this positive visualization stuff works, why did i not have sex with all the girls on twin peaks when i was 15?".

70 pat  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:49:05pm

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

Sure remember Selim II "the Sot"?

71 BatGuano  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:49:10pm

re: #67 gmsc

Oh, a Ponzi scheme.

72 Mel Lono  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:49:51pm

There's a George Carlin tribute special floating out there on PBS, public TV yeah, the one we pay for. He'd won the Twain award a week too early. No linky. Well done, and ... bleeped too much.

73 BatGuano  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:50:41pm

re: #68 logboy

You and me both.

74 gmsc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:51:57pm

re: #63 BatGuano

I remember George Carlin from the mid 60's. HE was funny. He went seriously wrong when he became a neo-liberal.

Now he's in Heaven. It's a topless bar near the airport.

75 varmint  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:52:10pm

re: #64 iLikeCandy

i am updating the resume because anyne who runs a business based on wishes and happy thoughts is headed for a crash. i'd rather not be around at the time of impact.

76 logboy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:52:21pm

re: #66 pat

Actually, wolves are not that savage, although very few modern animals, and I believe no mammal, out of Africa, could fight off a pack. Dogs are more savage, as are foxes and coyotes. But when a wolf pack in the wild gets down to business, beware. Fortunately, wolves hate people unless they are raised from puppies. Cro-magnon saw to that. Found them tasty.

But when a wolf pack in the wild gets down to business, beware. As opposed to wolves living domestic lives? They are ALWAYS in the wild getting down to business.

77 HelloDare  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:53:06pm

re: #67 gmsc

A guy here in Las Vegas was just arrested for an interesting scam.

He would go to people's houses with a box full of light bulbs, and he would offer to take out all your old light bulbs, and put in new light bulbs, all for only $10! This sounded like a great deal to most people, especially as they'd spend more than $10 just buying the bulbs, never mind the time to put them in.

Why was this a scam?

The guy bought 25 new light bulbs, and approached the 1st house. This first lucky guy actually got a good deal, because he was actually getting a house full of new light bulbs for $10 (no charges are pressed concerning this first person).

The con artist then took the bulbs he removed from the first house, went to another house, and gave the same offer.

By the time this guy has finished 10 houses, he's got $100 in his pocket, and still has the same number of light bulbs he started with!

The charges mostly involve fraud, as this guy claimed he was installing brand new bulbs, which he wasn't.

The guy now works for the government.

78 Confuzed  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:53:30pm

What happened to the Donate through Amazon.com under tools/info?
Don't trust PayPal as far as I can throw 'em.

I've only given on several occasions, but Charles provides such a valuable service while asking for nothing in return.

I'd love it if he started his own clothing line - LGF.

79 pat  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:53:56pm

re: #65 Erik The Red

Well of course, and this is the crux of the issue; there were 2 common drinks in Arabia (more in Persia and Europe that had mead), Beer and wine. Wine was the more powerful. The injunction was against wine because of a drunken fight between court attendants that resulted in the death of a friend, while the Mo slept from too much booze.

80 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:54:50pm

re: #71 BatGuano

Oh, a Ponzi scheme.

About ten years ago I helped a relative without internet access research some folks she figured had taken advantage of her Dad through investment scams. He had invested twice. The first was a restaurant in Pasadena, CA and the LLC name was the same as the restaurant. I was already suspicious. LOL The second scam he bought in to was actually named "Ponzu II". Glad they finally got busted and I feel like I hastened the bust. That's like saying FU2.

81 iLikeCandy  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:55:02pm

re: #75 varmint

i am updating the resume because anyne who runs a business based on wishes and happy thoughts is headed for a crash. i'd rather not be around at the time of impact.

The plot thickens. I think you're doing the right thing.

I wonder if the Co$ has an unofficial Party preference?

82 Mel Lono  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:55:51pm

re: #74 gmsc

If you're talking Wild Goose, you're too close.

83 gmsc  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:55:57pm

re: #77 HelloDare

The guy now works for the government.

He was almost offered that as a deal, but he was disqualified when they found out all his back taxes were paid up.

84 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:56:00pm

re: #58 logboy

That is absolutely why they are hunted, to keep populations at acceptable levels. My point is that accusing Palin of savagery for allowing the killing of wolves (one of the most savage creatures in nature) is purely idiotic. Of course its people like Judd who think we should all be eating tofu and soy and wearing organic hemp clothes. The closest any of those assclowns will get to nature is watching Animal Planet.

Well, I love wolves. Have to admit, I have a soft spot for wolves. They're predators, as God made them. Beautiful animals, amazing community structure. Had a dog for years who was a good quarter-and-a-bit wolf, and they're one of my favorite non-huggable animals out there. I will not be accompanying Mrs. Palin on any wolf-hunting trips. But I'm willing to accept that there are reasons they need to be hunted.

Ashley Judd...I don't know what her issue is, but I assume it's pure knee-jerk reaction.

I also love tofu. A good braised tofu with bok choy greens and black mushrooms cannot be beat. Ma Po tofu is also excellent. I sometimes stir-fry with both braised or plain tofu and meat, and then let my husband pick out most of the meat--works very well, flavor-wise.

When tofu is good, it's astonishing. When it's bad, it sometimes resembles Elmer's glue that's been left to harden.

85 stevieray  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:57:28pm

re: #78 Confuzed

I think Amazon eliminated that service.

86 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Feb 5, 2009 11:59:57pm

re: #67 gmsc

A guy here in Las Vegas was just arrested for an interesting scam.

He would go to people's houses with a box full of light bulbs, and he would offer to take out all your old light bulbs, and put in new light bulbs, all for only $10! This sounded like a great deal to most people, especially as they'd spend more than $10 just buying the bulbs, never mind the time to put them in.

Why was this a scam?

The guy bought 25 new light bulbs, and approached the 1st house. This first lucky guy actually got a good deal, because he was actually getting a house full of new light bulbs for $10 (no charges are pressed concerning this first person).

The con artist then took the bulbs he removed from the first house, went to another house, and gave the same offer.

By the time this guy has finished 10 houses, he's got $100 in his pocket, and still has the same number of light bulbs he started with!

The charges mostly involve fraud, as this guy claimed he was installing brand new bulbs, which he wasn't.

I read a 'news of interest' piece in the local paper today. Happened somewhere in Minnesota, I believe. Man is 44 years old, and believes he is a 'vampyre'. Ran for office, as a representative of a 'vampyres, witches and pagans' party (and I can imagine what kind of witches and pagans agree to go along with something like that. Not the practical, tax-paying kind of Wiccan.) He is now in jail in lieu of $125,000 bail, after making threats to a teenage girl who tried to end their relationship by telling him that she was a vampire hunter.

The mind, it boggles.

87 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:03:56am

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

I read a 'news of interest' piece in the local paper today. Happened somewhere in Minnesota, I believe. Man is 44 years old, and believes he is a 'vampyre'. Ran for office,

. . . as a democrat, so that everyone else would believe he was a 'vampyre'.
;)

88 wiffersnapper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:04:29am

George Carlin for Prez. Penn and Teller for VP.

89 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:05:27am

re: #80 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good Job, Jammin! Despite the scams that are propagated on the internet, the savvy use of it can sometimes counteract other scams.

90 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:07:05am

re: #84 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, I love wolves. Have to admit, I have a soft spot for wolves. They're predators, as God made them. Beautiful animals, amazing community structure. Had a dog for years who was a good quarter-and-a-bit wolf, and they're one of my favorite non-huggable animals out there. I will not be accompanying Mrs. Palin on any wolf-hunting trips. But I'm willing to accept that there are reasons they need to be hunted.

Ashley Judd...I don't know what her issue is, but I assume it's pure knee-jerk reaction.

I also love tofu. A good braised tofu with bok choy greens and black mushrooms cannot be beat. Ma Po tofu is also excellent. I sometimes stir-fry with both braised or plain tofu and meat, and then let my husband pick out most of the meat--works very well, flavor-wise.

When tofu is good, it's astonishing. When it's bad, it sometimes resembles Elmer's glue that's been left to harden.


If tofu, soy, and all that other "healthy alternative" crap is so damn good, then why is everyone always trying to make it taste like meat?

I've spent my entire life in the woods of Wisconsin experiencing nature first hand. Wolves are wild animals. They, like fox, coyotes, badgers, and other feisty predators are NOT cute and cuddly. Have you ever seen another animal get eaten alive? I have. Every time I hear someone talk about "the poor defenseless animals" I can't help but think of the guy who was mauled by the Panda Bear at the Zoo. Remember what he said? "It looked so cute and cuddly." Then it tried to kill him and eat him.

91 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:07:18am

Police say electrical wires sparked fumes on Southwest flight

Hazmat crews dealt with an incident on a Southwest Airlines flight at McCarran International Thursday night after passengers complained about eye irritation.

Southwest Flight 756 took off from Kansas City, Missouri around 4:30pm CDT and landed at McCarran International at 5:18pm.

The plane was scheduled to come to Las Vegas with continuing service to Sacramento.

Oxygen masks were down as the plane with 116 people landed.

Initially, the FAA thought a pepper spray can had exploded.

Now, McCarran officials say Metro believes an electrical issue may be the reason behind the eye irritation.

Six people were takent to Desert Springs Hospital and all are in stable condition.

Those who were heading to Sacramento have boarded other flights to Sacramento.

TSA is handling the investigation.

92 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:07:50am

re: #87 gmsc

. . . as a democrat, so that everyone else would believe he was a 'vampyre'.
;)

I just wonder if his little friend was trying to let him down easy. Maybe "Babe, we can't be together because I was born to hunt your kind" is less damaging to the male ego than "Babe, we can't be together because you're a delusional pervert who's way too old for me."

93 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:09:44am

re: #74 gmsc

yeah, he now knows the truth. May he rest in peace

94 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:13:00am

re: #89 BatGuano

I think he just got the telephone calls.

I was an internet novice and hated computers at that time. LOL I had never even been on line. I got on the hubby's computer late at night and started to learn from scratch. LOL I was on Edgar by the second night. I probably hacked it and didn't know what I was doing. LOL I typed stuff in like "query" ""possible elder abuse"," LLC Ponzu II". I kid you not. It took a few months and I was out of town when it happened but my hubby called to say it was on the news that they were busted. I loved it. Of course I live near Pasadena so I talked about it around town and got info too.

95 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:14:17am

Would George Carlin believe what Obama told him tonight at the Demo thingy?

96 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:17:51am

Speaking of nature, there's a pack of coyotes howling outside right now.

97 Confuzed  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:18:39am

re: #85 stevieray

I think Amazon eliminated that service.

Thank you. That's a darn shame. That system was great, even came with a 30-day money back guarantee in case people changed their mind and wanted to "un-donate."

98 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:18:54am

re: #90 logboy

If tofu, soy, and all that other "healthy alternative" crap is so damn good, then why is everyone always trying to make it taste like meat?

I've spent my entire life in the woods of Wisconsin experiencing nature first hand. Wolves are wild animals. They, like fox, coyotes, badgers, and other feisty predators are NOT cute and cuddly. Have you ever seen another animal get eaten alive? I have. Every time I hear someone talk about "the poor defenseless animals" I can't help but think of the guy who was mauled by the Panda Bear at the Zoo. Remember what he said? "It looked so cute and cuddly." Then it tried to kill him and eat him.

You're arguing with someone, but it isn't me. Tofu, in my neighborhood, isn't 'alternative', it's just good food, often served with meat. You don't want any, more for me. I'm not a vegetarian, or particularly alternative with my eating, but I have been blessed with a lot of good Asian restaurants in my life.

I didn't say wolves were cuddly. I said they were beautiful. There is a distinct difference. I have a co-worker who is working toward a doctorate studying wolf communication. I find her work fascinating. I've seen an animal kill prey. I don't want to end up as the prey, but predators do predate.

Panda Guy sounds like a fool. Last year, here in San Francisco, we had a kid killed by a zoo tiger. Some people just don't get reality real well, because after that, we had a guy jump in the rhino pen. You have to be fairly crazy to tempt a rhino to clean your clock. The world is full of crazy people, sadly.

I get it. Sentimental animal-lovers upset you. But is there anything I can do, short of going on a safari, to convince you I am not out to get you, or force-feed you soy products?

99 winston06  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:19:34am

Was George Carlin a Leftist?

100 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:24:26am

re: #96 logboy

Speaking of nature, there's a pack of coyotes howling outside right now.

We get a lot of them here in So. Calif. too. I do have to say our daughter just lost a lovely dog who was coyote/shepherd mix. She was one of the kindest, sweetest dogs I have ever known.

101 varmint  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:24:32am

on the subject of wolves/wildlife...


i've seen grizzly man about twenty times. and it just keeps getting funnier. i figured what the world needs is a children's book telling the story from the bear's perspective.


[Link: www.attackanimation.com...]

102 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:24:50am

re: #94 Pvt Bin Jammin

That's great! "Novice slams scum". I loves the "Internets".

103 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:25:05am

re: #98 SanFranciscoZionist

I get it. Sentimental animal-lovers upset you. But is there anything I can do, short of going on a safari, to convince you I am not out to get you, or force-feed you soy products?

Yes. Move out of San Francisco.

104 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:25:25am

re: #99 winston06

Was George Carlin a Leftist?

I think he was a comedian...

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:25:57am

re: #103 logboy

Yes. Move out of San Francisco.

Yeah, I'll take that as a 'no'. Peace out, brah.

106 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:26:16am

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, I'll take that as a 'no'. Peace out, brah.

God, I need to, don't I?

/

107 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:27:09am

Just watching the Game Show Network here, and it made me think of these:

108 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:27:24am

re: #100 Pvt Bin Jammin

We get a lot of them here in So. Calif. too. I do have to say our daughter just lost a lovely dog who was coyote/shepherd mix. She was one of the kindest, sweetest dogs I have ever known.

Aww, that would be a pretty mix. Sorry to hear. Shepherd mixes are the best.

109 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:28:03am

Does anyone think Obama will get desperate and do something criminal during his term? Does it take a criminal act for a Prez to be impeached, or just some violation of the oath?

110 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:29:27am

re: #102 BatGuano

If I have a purpose, I really get hot under the collar. Needless to say, I was hooked on the internet after that. I had only had DOS experience prior to that and I could have easily taken an axe to my monitor, which is why I had to sneak out to our office at night because my hubby knew me. LOL

111 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:29:45am

re: #101 varmint

I like Jeremiah Johnson myself.

"Hide behind the horse, and shoot the elk over your horse."
"Won't the elk see our legs?"
"Elk don't know how many legs a horse has got!"

112 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:31:28am

re: #106 SanFranciscoZionist

God, I need to, don't I?

/

I have two words why I hope San Fran falls into the ocean.

Nancy Pelosi.

113 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:33:42am

re: #109 iLikeCandy

Does anyone think Obama will get desperate and do something criminal during his term? Does it take a criminal act for a Prez to be impeached, or just some violation of the oath?

Interesting thought.

I see 0bama having a similar ego to Nixon (yes, I know Nixon was never impeached), and trying to get away with something. What it would be or whether it would happen while he's president is to hard to forsee, though.

The rest of you question is answered at Impeachment in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

114 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:35:17am

I am not a Trekkie but I have to have one of These.

115 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:37:38am

re: #114 Erik The Red

That's pretty cool. Let us know when you can "beam up". ;).

116 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:38:21am

re: #110 Pvt Bin Jammin

I learned DOS in the mid eighties and still have a soft spot in my heart for it.

117 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:42:14am

re: #115 Pvt Bin Jammin

That's pretty cool. Let us know when you can "beam up". ;).

Back when they still had Star Trek: The Experience here in Las Vegas, there was a room that you entered with 3 doors, and the doors were going to open to allow you to get on the ride.

While the safety instructions were being given via video, everything would go haywire, and all the lights would go out. When they came back up, you were in a completely different room - the transporter room of the Enterprise D!

The effect was very well done.

118 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:43:25am

An elderly man in North Carolina had owned a large farm for several years. He had a large pond in the back, fixed up really nice, along with some picnic tables, horseshoe courts, and some apple and peach trees. The pond was properly shaped and fixed up for swimming when it was built.

One evening the old farmer decided to go down to the pond, as he hadn't been there for a while, and look it over. He grabbed a five gallon bucket to bring back some fruit.

As he neared the pond, he heard voices shouting and laughing with glee. When he came closer, he realized it was a bunch of young women skinny-dipping in his pond. He made the women aware of his presence and they all went to the deep end to shield themselves.

One of the women shouted to him, "We're not coming out until you leave!"

The old man frowned and replied, "I didn't come down here to watch you ladies swim naked or make you get out of the pond naked." Holding the bucket up he said, "I'm here to feed the alligator."

Moral of the story: Old men may move slow but can still think fast.

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:43:51am

Bonne nuit, all you glorious honcos. I'm going to bed. Because it's 12:43 in the bleeping morning.

120 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:44:38am

Dave works hard at the plant and spends two nights each week bowling and plays golf every Saturday. His wife thinks he's pushing himself too hard, so for his birthday she takes him to a local strip club.
The doorman at the club greets them and says, "Hey, Dave! How ya doin?" His wife is puzzled and asks if he's been to this club before. "Oh no," says Dave. "He's on my bowling team."

When they are seated, a waitress asks Dave if he'd like his usual and brings over a Budweiser. His wife is becoming increasingly uncomfortable and says, "How did she know that you drink Budweiser?" "I recognize her, she's the waitress from the golf club. I always have a bud at the end of the first nine, honey.

A stripper then comes over to their table, throws her arms around Dave, starts to rub herself all over him and says, "Hi ! Davey. Want your usual table dance, big boy?" Dave's wife, now furious, grabs her purse and storms out of the club. Dave follows and spots her getting into a cab.

Before she can slam the door, he jumps in beside her. Dave tries desperately to explain how the stripper must have mistaken him for someone else, but his wife is having none of it. She is screaming at him at the top of her lungs, calling him every 4 letter word in the book.

The cabby turns around and says, "Geez Dave, you picked up a real bitch this time."

121 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:45:41am

re: #116 BatGuano

I learned DOS in the mid eighties and still have a soft spot in my heart for it.

Bless your heart. I am so non-technical I just couldn't deal with it. Gates saved me from computer homicide/suicide. LOL I used to call my techie friends in tears.

122 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:47:34am

An old man went into confession and told the priest: "Father, I'm 81 years old, married, with six children and 13 grandchildren. Last night i had an affair and made love to two 18-year-old girls. Twice."

"I see," said the priest. "When was the last time you were in confession?"

"Never, Father", replied the old man, "I'm Jewish".

"So why are you telling ME all that?!" asked the priest.

"Well," answered the man, "I'm telling everybody!"

123 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:48:19am

re: #112 logboy

I have two words why I hope San Fran falls into the ocean.

Nancy Pelosi.

Tofu has always reminded me of white congealed dried cubes of flavorless custard... I need to get out more I guess.

I hope San Francisco doesn't fall into the ocean... I love Frisco!

However, I wouldn't mind if Nancy Pelosi fell into the ocean...

124 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:49:20am

Here's a math challenge for you: Using all of the numbers 100, 75, 50, 25, 3 and 6 once each, and the standard mathematic operators (+, -, /, *) as much as you want, how close can you come to getting a total of 952?

On a British gameshow called "Countdown", contestant James Martin had just 30 seconds to do just that. How did he do? See for yourself:

125 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:49:37am

re: #113 gmsc

Interesting thought.

I see 0bama having a similar ego to Nixon (yes, I know Nixon was never impeached), and trying to get away with something. What it would be or whether it would happen while he's president is to hard to forsee, though.

The rest of you question is answered at Impeachment in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aha. Treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanors are the impeachable offenses. I don't know much about Nixon's psychology, but I think we know plenty about Obama, and I think he's capable of committing a crime to cover some colossal act of stupidity, incompetence, negligence, etc etc etc. President Biden -- how's that for interesting?

126 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:49:39am

Mickey and Minnie Mouse were at court for divorce proceedings. The judge told Mickey, "Look here Mickey Mouse, I can't grant you a divorce from Minnie!"

Mickey Mouse was stunned and asked, "Why not?"

The Judge said, "I've reviewed all the information you gave to the court, but I can't find any evidence at all to support the grounds that she is crazy!"

Mickey Mouse says, "Your Honour! I didn't say she was CRAZY, I said she was fucking Goofy!"

127 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:50:43am

Good night, lizards. It's almost 1:00. Take care and have a great day manana.

128 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:52:01am

re: #121 Pvt Bin Jammin

I have used DOS to repair Windows problems many times.

129 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:53:54am

re: #127 Pvt Bin Jammin

G' night bin Jammin.

130 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:54:18am

Frank was excited about his new rifle and decided to try bear hunting. He spotted a small brown bear and shot it. Right after, there was a tap on his shoulder and he turned around to see a big black bear. The black bear said, "That was my cousin and you've got two choices ... Either I maul you to death or we have sex."

After considering briefly, Frank decided to accede to the latter alternative. Even though he felt sore for two weeks, Frank soon recovered and vowed revenge.

He headed out on another trip where he found the black bear and shot it. Right after, there was another tap on his shoulder. This time a huge grizzly bear stood right next to him. The grizzly said, "That was a big mistake, Frank. That was my cousin and you've got two choices. Either I maul you to death or we have rough sex." Again, Frank thought it was better to cooperate.

Although he survived, it took several months before Frank finally recovered. Outraged, he headed back to the woods, managed to track down the grizzly and shot it. He felt sweet revenge, but then there was a tap on his shoulder. He turned around to find a giant polar bear standing there. The polar bear looked at him very sadly and said, "Admit it, Frank, you don't come here for the hunting, do you?"

131 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:54:50am

re: #128 BatGuano

I have used DOS to repair Windows problems many times.

I am so grateful for techies like you. You keep the axe out of my hands. LOL

Nite.

132 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:56:18am

re: #130 Erik The Red

Frank was excited about his new rifle and decided to try bear hunting. He spotted a small brown bear and shot it. Right after, there was a tap on his shoulder and he turned around to see a big black bear. The black bear said, "That was my cousin and you've got two choices ... Either I maul you to death or we have sex."

After considering briefly, Frank decided to accede to the latter alternative. Even though he felt sore for two weeks, Frank soon recovered and vowed revenge.

He headed out on another trip where he found the black bear and shot it. Right after, there was another tap on his shoulder. This time a huge grizzly bear stood right next to him. The grizzly said, "That was a big mistake, Frank. That was my cousin and you've got two choices. Either I maul you to death or we have rough sex." Again, Frank thought it was better to cooperate.

Although he survived, it took several months before Frank finally recovered. Outraged, he headed back to the woods, managed to track down the grizzly and shot it. He felt sweet revenge, but then there was a tap on his shoulder. He turned around to find a giant polar bear standing there. The polar bear looked at him very sadly and said, "Admit it, Frank, you don't come here for the hunting, do you?"

Heh... you're on a roll Eric

133 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:57:38am

re: #125 iLikeCandy

Aha. Treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanors are the impeachable offenses. I don't know much about Nixon's psychology, but I think we know plenty about Obama, and I think he's capable of committing a crime to cover some colossal act of stupidity, incompetence, negligence, etc etc etc. President Biden -- how's that for interesting?

Given the choice, I'd rather not see President Biden, but I can almost picture him as being preferable to 0bama.

134 paybacktime  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:57:58am

I find myself no believeing what the MSM tells me too - especially al-bbc.

135 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:58:06am

re: #122 Erik The Red

Stop it! You're appealing to my baser instincts. Yeah, I'd do the same.

136 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:59:18am

A couple was invited to a swanky Halloween party by a family friend, in which all attendees were required to wear a mask. The wife got a terrible headache and told her husband to go to the party alone, and to make sure to say hello to her family. He, being a devoted husband, protested, but she argued and said she was going to take some aspirin and go to bed and there was no need for his good time to be spoiled by not going. So he took his costume and away he went.

The wife, after sleeping soundly for about an hour, woke without pain and as it was still early, decided to go to the party. As her husband didn't know what her costume was, she thought she would have some fun by watching her husband to see how he acted when she was not with him.

So she joined the party and soon spotted her husband in his costume, cavorting around on the dance floor, dancing with every nice "chick" he could and copping a little feel here and a little kiss there. His wife went up to him and being a rather seductive babe herself, he left his new partner high and dry and devoted his time to her. She let him go as far as he wished, naturally, since he was her husband.

After more drinks he finally whispered a little proposition in her ear and she agreed, so off they went to one of the cars and had passionate intercourse in the back seat. Just before unmasking at midnight, she slipped away and went home and put the costume away and got into bed, wondering what kind of explanation he would make up for his outrageous behaviour.

She was sitting up reading when he came in, so she asked what kind of time he had. "Oh, the same old thing. You know I never have a good time when you're not there." Then she asked, "Did you dance much?"

He replied, "I'll tell you, I never even danced one dance. When I got there, I met Pete, Bill Brown and some other guys, so we went into the spare room and played poker all evening."

"You must have looked really silly wearing that costume playing poker all night!" she said with unashamed sarcasm.

"Actually, I gave my costume to your brother, apparently he had the time of his life."

137 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 12:59:31am

re: #133 gmsc

Given the choice, I'd rather not see President Biden, but I can almost picture him as being preferable to 0bama.

re: #133 gmsc

Given the choice, I'd rather not see President Biden, but I can almost picture him as being preferable to 0bama.

As much as I hate Biden... I agree with you... how bad is that?

138 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:01:17am

Dog finds delicious-looking baby squirrel.
Dog hovers over delicious-looking baby squirrel, ready to attack.
Dog discovers mother squirrel has been keeping an eye on baby.
Dog expected to recover soon.

139 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:03:09am

re: #137 Mr Pancakes

As much as I hate Biden... I agree with you... how bad is that?

Hey, when you're not in a perfect world, you have to take what you can get.

140 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:04:38am

re: #137 Mr Pancakes

re: #133 gmsc

Given the choice, I'd rather not see President Biden, but I can almost picture him as being preferable to 0bama.

As much as I hate Biden... I agree with you... how bad is that?

I think we've merged with the conversation about having sex with a bear or being mauled to death.

141 Mel Lono  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:05:23am

re: #126 Erik The Red

Best one I've read yet, and I skip most of them ETR

142 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:06:16am

re: #134 paybacktime

I find myself no believeing what the MSM tells me too - especially al-bbc.

neither does Israeli satire show Eretz Nehederet (Great Country):

link

143 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:07:42am

A man escapes from prison where he has been for 15 years. He breaks into a house to look for money and guns and finds a young couple in bed.

He orders the guy out of bed and ties him to a chair, while tying the girl to the bed he gets on top of her, kisses her neck, then gets up and goes into the bathroom. While he's in there, the husband tells his wife:

"Listen, this guy's an escaped convict, look at his clothes! He probably spent lots of time in jail and hasn't seen a woman in years. I saw how he kissed your neck." If he wants sex, don't resist, don't complain, do whatever he tells you. Satisfy him no matter how much he nauseates you. This guy is probably very dangerous. If he gets angry, he'll kill us. Be strong, honey. I love you."

To which his wife responds: "He wasn't kissing my neck. He was whispering in my ear. He told me he was gay, thought you were cute, and asked me if we had any vaseline. I told him it was in the bathroom. Be strong honey. I love you too!"

144 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:08:41am

SURVIVOR - Except the contestants are replaced with kittens, and the island is replaced with a Roomba:

145 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:09:20am

re: #140 iLikeCandy

I think we've merged with the conversation about having sex with a bear or being mauled to death.

I think that's the first time I've both reported AND updinged the same post!
;)

146 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:10:11am

A girl asks her boyfriend to come over Friday night and have dinner with her parents. Since this is such a big event, the girl announces to her boyfriend that after dinner, she would like to go out and make love for the first time.

Well, the boy is ecstatic, but he has never had sex before, so he takes a trip to the pharmacist to get some condoms. The pharmacist helps the boy for about an hour. He tells the boy everything there is to know about condoms and sex.

At the register, the pharmacist asks the boy how many condoms he'd like to buy, a 3-pack, 10-pack, or family pack. The boy insists on the family pack because he thinks he will be rather busy, it being his first time and all.

That night, the boy shows up at the girl's parents house and meets his girlfriend at the door. "Oh, I'm so excited for you to meet my parents, come on in!"

The boy goes inside and is taken to the dinner table where the girl's parents are seated. The boy quickly offers to say grace and bows his head.

A minute passes, and the boy is still deep in prayer, with his head down.

10 minutes pass, and still no movement from the boy.

Finally, after 20 minutes with his head down, the girlfriend leans over and whispers to the boyfriend, "I had no idea you were this religious."

The boy turns, and whispers back, "I had no idea your father was a pharmacist."

147 Mel Lono  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:13:48am

easy link, easy listening
Tell ma I said goodnight.

148 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:14:02am

An old couple were sitting in their living room on a Sunday morning watching a religious program.

The preacher on this show would go to all the people in the audience and asking them what they wanted fixed, then he would have them cover the part of their body they wanted fixed.

Many of the people were elderly so they were covering their eyes and hearts. Then the preacher said "Ok now for you at home put your hand on the part of your body you want fixed and say this prayer with me."

So the little old lady put her hand on her heart, because she had a very bad heart. And the little old man put his hands on his crotch.

The little old lady turned to her husband and said "He said he could heal the sick, not raise the dead!"

149 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:16:44am

re: #148 Erik The Red

You magnificent bastard! I was going to do that one!

150 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:18:49am

Several men are in the locker room of a golf club. A cell phone on a
bench rings and a man engages the hands free speaker-function and begins
to talk. Everyone else in the room stops to listen.

MAN: "Hello."

WOMAN: "Honey, it's me. Are you at the club?"

MAN: "Yes"

WOMAN: "I am at the mall now and found this beautiful leather coat. It's only $1,000. Is it OK if I buy it?"

MAN: "Sure, ...go ahead if you like it."

WOMAN: "I also stopped by the Mercedes dealership and saw the new 2004 models. I saw one I really liked."

MAN: "How much?"

WOMAN: "$60,000"

MAN: "OK, but for that price I want it with all the options."

WOMAN: "Great! Oh, and one more thing...the house we wanted last year is back on the market. They're asking $950,000."

MAN: "Well, then go ahead and give them an offer, but just offer $900,000."

WOMAN: "OK. I'll see you later! I love you!

MAN: "Bye, I love you, too."

The man hangs up .The other men in the locker room are looking at him in astonishment.

Then he asks: "Anyone know who this phone belongs to?"

151 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:22:14am

An Amish boy and his father were visiting a mall. They were amazed by almost everything they saw, but especially by two shiny, silver walls that could move apart and back together again. The boy asked his father, "What is this, Father?" The father [never having seen an elevator] responded "Son, I have never seen anything like this in my life, I don't know what it is."

While the boy and his father were watching wide-eyed, an old lady in a wheel chair rolled up to the moving walls and pressed a button. The walls opened and the lady rolled between them into a small room. The walls closed and the boy and his father watched small circles of lights with numbers above the walls light up. They continued to watch the circles light up in the reverse direction.

The walls opened up again and a beautiful 24-year-old woman stepped out. The father said to his son, "Go get your mother."

152 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:22:33am

I'm off to bed. Good night, all!

153 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:25:13am

re: #148 Erik The Red

What?

re: #152 gmsc

WHAT?!

154 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:25:52am

A man is changing clothes at a golf club. His friend notices that he takes off a bra. His friend says, "since when do you wear a bra?"
He says, " since my wife found it the glove compartment of m car"

155 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:26:07am

re: #153 littleoldlady

What?

re: #152 gmsc

WHAT?!

What?///

156 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:26:31am

re: #153 littleoldlady

What?

re: #152 gmsc

WHAT?!

I'm dozing off, and I have to get some sleep before work tomorrow.

157 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:26:55am

re: #155 Erik The Red

What?///

Oh I see. Not you dear lady///

158 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:27:09am

re: #153 littleoldlady

What?

re: #152 gmsc

WHAT?!

When I do off to sleep, I'll dream of you and your fruitcup.

159 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:27:35am

re: #145 gmsc

I think that's the first time I've both reported AND updinged the same post!
;)

What does it mean to report a post?

160 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:27:42am

re: #156 gmsc

:-(

I'll put your fruitcup in the fridge.

/and get BlueCanuck to guard it for you...

161 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:30:10am

re: #144 gmsc

SURVIVOR - Except the contestants are replaced with kittens, and the island is replaced with a Roomba:

I think my favorite part was the end where the huge dog walked by.

162 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:30:42am

One man explaining to another why he fired his secretary:

"Two weeks ago," I said, "was my forty-fifth birthday and I wasn't feeling too hot that morning anyway. I went into the kitchen for breakfast knowing that my wife would be pleasant and say 'Happy Birthday' and probably have a present for me. She didn't even say 'Good Morning' let alone say 'Happy Birthday'.

"I said to myself Well that's wives for you. The children will remember.' But the children came into breakfast and didn't say a word. And when I started to the office, I was feeling pretty low and despondent.

As I walked into my office, Janet said 'Good Morning, Boss-Happy Birthday' and I felt a little bit better that someone had remembered. I worked until noon. About noon, Janet knocked on my door and said, You know it's such a beautiful day outside and it is your birthday, so let's go to lunch, just you and I.' I said, 'By George, that is the greatest thing I have heard all day. Let's go.'

"We went to lunch. We didn't go where we normally go, we went out into the country to a private place. We had two Martinis and enjoyed lunch tremendously.

"On the way back to the office, she said, 'You know, it's such a beautiful day we don't need to go back to the office, do we?' I said, 'No, I guess not.'

"She said, 'Let's go by my apartment, and I'll fix you another Martini.'

"We went to her apartment. We enjoyed another Martini and smoked a cigarette and she said, 'Boss, if you don't mind, I think I'll go into the bedroom and slip into something more comfortable' and I allowed her as I didn't mind at all.

"She went into the bedroom and in about six minutes she came out of the bedroom carrying a big birthday cake followed by my wife and children. All were singing 'Happy Birthday' and there I sat with nothing on but my socks."

163 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:30:57am

re: #160 littleoldlady

:-(

I'll put your fruitcup in the fridge.

/and get BlueCanuck to guard it for you...

Thanks. I've updinged you for that, since I won't be able to later.

re: #159 iLikeCandy

What does it mean to report a post?

First, I was joking about reporting it.

See that little exclamation mark in the upper right corner of each post? You click that, and you can either "report" (notify Charles of a bad post) or "recommend" (notify Charles of a memorable, positive post).

I only updinged, and didn't report it.

Once again, good night, all!

164 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:33:06am

re: #163 gmsc

First, I was joking about reporting it.

See that little exclamation mark in the upper right corner of each post? You click that, and you can either "report" (notify Charles of a bad post) or "recommend" (notify Charles of a memorable, positive post).

I only updinged, and didn't report it.

Once again, good night, all!

Oh! Well, I guess my wet blanket question doesn't get any updings.

165 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:33:19am

re: #163 gmsc

Night gmsc weet dreams

166 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:35:46am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

167 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:36:52am

re: #164 iLikeCandy

What's with the iron cross?

168 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:37:24am

What is this fruit cup you speak of? I am standing here beside myself shrugging.

169 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:47:54am

re: #168 BatGuano

Don't hurt yourself. ;-)

170 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:48:40am

re: #167 Spare O'Lake

I think the Iron cross predates the Nazi party, but I too am wondering what this means now that you noticed it.

171 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:48:43am

A farmer's last rooster dies leaving his 200 hens unable to produce chicks. He logs onto roosters.com, finds a highly-touted and high-priced specimen, clicks "order" and the next day, FedEx delivers a rather ordinary looking rooster named Randy.

Before releasing Randy to the chicken coop, the farmer tells him, "You were one danged expensive rooster and I've got a couple hundred chickens here for you to service, so take your time and do a good job."

Randy acts as if he understands, but as soon as he is released he attacks the hens with a vengeance, working his way through the entire flock, not just once, but three times without pause!

The farmer can't believe his eyes. Then Randy runs out of the hen house, sees a flock of geese down by the lake and services all the geese. The farmer is distraught, worrying that his expensive rooster won't make it through the night.

Sure enough, the next morning when the farmer wakes, he sees Randy lying dead, buzzards circling overhead. As the farmer bends over to retrieve his costly loss, he shakes his head and says, "Damn it, Randy! Didn't I tell you to pace yourself?"

Randy opens one eye, looks at the circling buzzards and says, "Shhh. They're getting closer."

172 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:51:22am

re: #169 littleoldlady

I'm just pulling your leg (with all due respect).

173 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:53:11am
174 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:53:52am

re: #171 Erik The Red

I admit it. You're Kung Fu is the best!

175 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:55:43am

re: #167 Spare O'Lake

What's with the iron cross?

It beeth the cross of the Knights Templar. It relates to certain matters of which I mayeth not speak. *dips goosequill in ink basin*

176 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:55:48am

re: #173 iLikeCandy

Hey Candy we are talking about your icon. What is it meant to represent?

177 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:56:16am

re: #175 iLikeCandy

It beeth the cross of the Knights Templar. It relates to certain matters of which I mayeth not speak. *dips goosequill in ink basin*

re: #176 Erik The Red

Never mind.

178 redc1c4  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:56:44am

re: #174 BatGuano

I admit it. You're Kung Fu is the best!

nawww... he ain't *that* good.

red

179 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:57:26am

re: #173 iLikeCandy
How about F'ing off and leaving LGF alone?

180 redc1c4  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:57:32am

re: #176 Erik The Red

Hey Candy we are talking about your icon. What is it meant to represent?

a target?

/just guessing

181 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:58:53am

I have a particular reason for choosing the symbol of the Knights Templar, which has no relation to that other thing, which was quite buried in the back of my mind.

182 redc1c4  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:59:10am

re: #179 BatGuano

How about F'ing off and leaving LGF alone?

how about being made to fuck off from LGF and wishing you'd never heard of it?

183 redc1c4  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 1:59:51am

re: #181 iLikeCandy

I have a particular reason for choosing the symbol of the Knights Templar, which has no relation to that other thing, which was quite buried in the back of my mind.

the original shallow grave...

184 redc1c4  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:00:09am

fruit cup!

185 Mel Lono  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:00:16am

shhh quiet time

186 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:00:22am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

187 redc1c4  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:00:38am

LoL?

188 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:00:55am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

{lol} thank you.

189 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:00:59am

re: #179 BatGuano

How about F'ing off and leaving LGF alone?

Was my language too strong? I really didn't like that stuff at Daily Kos. I'm comparing it to pornography because I take this presidential symbolism seriously and I don't think it's cool when a civilian grabs an on-duty Marine's gloved, saluting hand.

190 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:01:35am

red! :-)

With this new computer I'm just guessing... :-/

Erik! :-)

191 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:02:31am

re: #189 iLikeCandy

Was my language too strong? I really didn't like that stuff at Daily Kos. I'm comparing it to pornography because I take this presidential symbolism seriously and I don't think it's cool when a civilian grabs an on-duty Marine's gloved, saluting hand.

Came across a bit strong. Long time posters get away with it because we know more about them.

192 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:04:59am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Good morning LoL.

193 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:05:50am

re: #191 Erik The Red

Came across a bit strong. Long time posters get away with it because we know more about them.

Oh. Well, I'm used to the crowd at Ace of Spades HQ, where that post would probably be considered Disney-rated.

194 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:07:07am

re: #193 iLikeCandy

Oh. Well, I'm used to the crowd at Ace of Spades HQ, where that post would probably be considered Disney-rated.

Yes it would.

195 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:08:23am

BatGuano! :-)

196 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:08:30am

re: #175 iLikeCandy Where did you find the Odin Cross as a symbol of the Nights Templar. I've only seen it used in a video game. One in which templars were tied to the foundation of the nazi empire basically too?

197 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:09:36am

Remember; Marriage is the number one cause of divorce. It's TRUE! Statistically 100% of all divorces started with marriage!

1. I married Miss Right.
I just didn't know her first name was... Always.
2. I haven't spoken to my wife for 18 months.
I don't like to interrupt.
3. Marriage is a 3-ring circus:
Engagement ring, wedding ring, suffering.
4. The last fight was my fault. My wife asked, "What's on the TV?"
I said, "Dust!"
5. In the beginning, God created earth and rested. Then God created man and rested. Then God created woman.
Since then, neither God nor man has rested.
6. A beggar walked up to a well dressed woman shopping on Rodeo Drive and said "I haven't eaten anything in four days."
She looked at him and said, "Man, I wish I had your willpower."
7. Do you know the punishment for bigamy?
Two mothers-in-law.
8. Young Son: Is it true, Dad, I heard that in some parts of Africa a man doesn't know his wife until he marries her?
Dad: That happens in every country, son.
9. A man inserted an 'ad' in the classified: "Wife wanted". Next day he received a hundred letters.
They all said the same thing: "You can have mine."
10. The most effective way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget it once.
11. First guy (proudly): "My wife's an angel!"
Second guy: "You're lucky, mine's still alive."
12. How do most men define marriage?
An expensive way to get laundry done for free.
13. Just think, if it weren't for marriage, men would go through life thinking they had no faults at all.
14. If you want your wife to listen and pay undivided attention to every word you say, talk in your sleep.
15. Then there was a man who said, "I never knew what real happiness was until I got married; and then it was too late."
16. A little boy asked his father, "Daddy, how much does it cost to get married?"
And the father replied,"I don't know son, I'm still paying."

198 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:10:02am

Nm found an instance.

199 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:10:24am

re: #196 Rustler

Where did you find the Odin Cross as a symbol of the Nights Templar. I've only seen it used in a video game. One in which templars were tied to the foundation of the nazi empire basically too?

Here:
[Link: images.google.com...]

200 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:10:50am

re: #189 iLikeCandy

I didn't go to the link. This Is all I intend to say about it until you explain all.

201 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:11:09am

And here:
[Link: images.google.com...]

202 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:12:10am

Mornin folks, Lol :), Candy, Erik, gmsc, Bat...all. So what great revelations, news & joy will His Highness Hussein Obama, H3O, bring forth today?

Will he blanket the airwaves with 10 second slots of, 'Bring forth my trillion dollar tribute and be saved from the advancing pandemic?' Or will it be subliminal's, 'You will be over-come!'?

203 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:12:23am

re: #200 BatGuano

I didn't go to the link. This Is all I intend to say about it until you explain all.

The link is Google "Maltese Cross" and then you click "Images." That's exactly where I got my avatar.

The second link is to "'Knights Templar' cross" at Google images.

204 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:12:47am

This or This Are more commonly used as symbols for the Knight's Templar. And have been used since the Crusades.

205 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:14:34am

red, Rustler...didn't see you, mornin!

206 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:15:31am

A father is in the drugstore with his young son when the boy discovers the condom aisle. "What are these, Dad?"

"Well, son, those are condoms. They're for protection when you're having sex."

The son points to a pack and asks, "Why does it have only three in it, Dad?"

"Well, son, those are for high school boys: one for Friday, one for Saturday, and one for Sunday."

"Well, why does this pack have six in it?"

"Well, son, those are for college men: two for Friday, two for Saturday, and two for Sunday."

"Well then, what about this package with 12 in it?"

"Well, son, those are for married men: one for January, one for February..."

207 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:16:23am

re: #175 iLikeCandy

It beeth the cross of the Knights Templar. It relates to certain matters of which I mayeth not speak. *dips goosequill in ink basin*

re: #203 iLikeCandy

The link is Google "Maltese Cross" and then you click "Images." That's exactly where I got my avatar.

The second link is to "'Knights Templar' cross" at Google images.

I think the Knights Templar Cross is red.
I assume you are aware that your avatar is often associated with neo-nazi groups?

208 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:16:40am

re: #205 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Heyas abu and everyone else I'm Mostly just lurking today.

209 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:18:09am

re: #207 Spare O'Lake But yeah templar crosses should be red to signify the Blood spilt if I recall right.

210 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:18:33am

re: #203 iLikeCandy

Before I do any link hopping, Just say you are not a neo Nazi or antisimite. I have no problem the with the Knight Templar, so far.

211 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:19:18am

re: #204 Rustler

This or This Are more commonly used as symbols for the Knight's Templar. And have been used since the Crusades.

Hang on a sec

212 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:20:34am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Thanks, {lol}

On a side note, I'm pretty appalled at the number of state gop websites that don't list the state gop platform. What's with that?!

213 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:20:54am

re: #210 BatGuano

Before I do any link hopping, Just say you are not a neo Nazi or antisimite. I have no problem the with the Knight Templar, so far.

Jesus Christ are you . . . holy s h i t e . A new Nazi or anti-semite. Dear God no. I was going to try out some of those other avatars but of course have forgotten my password. Hang on another sec. I happen to be Maltese by ethnicity and that cross I've used is the one my family uses.

214 freetoken  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:21:19am

re: #186 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Yumm... an appetizer before my Fried Pheasant with Salsa Verde.


/in my dreams...

215 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:23:34am

re: #202 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

aboo! :-)

I heard that our esteemed Senators [may they grow like potatoes with their heads in the ground] worked into the night to try to "hammer out a compromise". I have no idea how you compromise on a load of crap like that!

Did anything happen whilst I was sleeping?

Meanwhile, it's gonna be a lot easier for Hamas to kill Jews.

/okay, so they're American Jews instead of Israelis...a Jew is a Jew.

216 freetoken  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:23:36am

re: #212 Sharmuta

Was checking for the OK GOP platform, to compare with their old one (which had the strong pro ID flavor), but discovered that now there is no more state platform... and yes, it seems the state GOP organizations seem a bit off the mark on this.

When looking for some fast and convenient "What we believe" statement (which a platform provides) on GOP state websites, I could find none.

217 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:24:30am

Sharmuta! :-)

freetoken! :-)

/my dreams, too! ;-)

218 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:24:36am

re: #210 BatGuano

Before I do any link hopping, Just say you are not a neo Nazi or antisimite. I have no problem the with the Knight Templar, so far.

BatGuano, to introduce myself, I've been reading a few conservative forums for the past year and checking in at this one from time to time. I'm not too crazy about most conservative sites because I have some libertarian/liberal streaks in me. About a week ago at another I saw the host of this site being slammed for being an "atheist" and contemtuously referred to as a "9/11 Republican." I figured I'd come gallopping over here and join since he sounds like my kind of guy.

219 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:25:12am

re: #216 freetoken

I'll be calling the stunningly long list of state parties that seem to not be able to provide a simple platform link on their websites.

220 freetoken  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:26:01am

re: #218 iLikeCandy

We are a strange lot here... perhaps a bit more diversified than many self described "conservative" blogs.

221 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:26:18am

The Maltese cross or Amalfi cross is identified as the symbol of an order of Christian warriors known as the Knights Hospitaller or Knights of Malta. It was originally the symbol of Amalfi, a small Italian republic of the 11th century. The cross is eight-pointed and has the form of four "V"-shaped arms joined together at their tips, so that each arm has two points. Its design is based on crosses used since the First Crusade. The eight points are said to symbolise the eight points of courage:[citation needed]

Loyalty
Piety
Frankness
Bravery
Glory and honour
Contempt of death
Helpfulness towards the poor and the sick
Respect for the church

Maltese cross

222 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:26:37am

Maybe Michael Steele is having them revised?

223 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:27:27am

re: #207 Spare O'Lake

I think the Knights Templar Cross is red.
I assume you are aware that your avatar is often associated with neo-nazi groups?

No, I had no such awareness as I don't hang with those groups! I just checked that Odin Cross online and I see a swastika on it.

224 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:28:14am

re: #221 Rustler

The Nestorian cross is what you have as your avatar.

225 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:29:13am

re: #220 freetoken

We are a strange lot here... perhaps a bit more diversified than many self described "conservative" blogs.

Yes, which is why I decided to jump in here. I'm not really looking for a "conservative" parlor so much as one with common sense, patriotism, and ethics.

226 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:29:34am

This is bleeping ridiculous. Why are state gop parties not listing their platforms on their websites? Shameful.

227 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:30:01am

re: #213 iLikeCandy

I hope I haven't over-reacted but I'm a bit jaded as regards those persons who log on here and spout antisemitic sentiments.

228 freetoken  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:30:12am

re: #222 littleoldlady

Maybe Michael Steele is having them revised?

Or, perhaps the lack of "What we believe" statements testify to a deeper reality... that the GOP (at the local level in particular) is currently trying to figure out what it really believes?

229 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:32:32am

Freetoken- are you going to call the OK gop and inquire about the platform's position on evolution?

230 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:33:11am

re: #223 iLikeCandy
The Odin cross became the Swaztika. It also became the Nestorian cross. Odin Cross is a normal Cross with a circle. As it evolved it lost the full circle and just indicated it as in the Nestorian cross. The form of hte Odin Cross which became the Swastika was actually 2 rune for I believe it was Knowledge crossed. It could be done both in the way of hte Nazi flag and also as a square with 2 tails. This is an ornamental later Derivation of the Odin Cross commonly called the Celtic cross.

231 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:34:11am

re: #229 Sharmuta Their position is still evolving.

232 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:34:40am

re: #227 BatGuano

I hope I haven't over-reacted but I'm a bit jaded as regards those persons who log on here and spout antisemitic sentiments.

I visited here for some time before I joined. I've never seen an anti-Semite here -- it seems impossible -- but I don't know, maybe I've missed some bizarre dramas.

233 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:34:54am

re: #215 littleoldlady

Dear Lol, why of course you get out the Senatorial Crap Hammers™ which frequently come when you order-up poop sandwiches.

234 Render  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:36:30am

Now there's an understatement.

DEFINED,
R

235 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:41:06am

re: #233 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I think you're on to something, aboo! Offer voters the opportunity to beat the crap out of their representatives - for a fee, of course!

/byebye deficit!
//byebye recession!

236 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:42:01am

re: #234 Render

Now there's an understatement.

DEFINED,
R

I have the uncomfortable feeling you're responding to me.

237 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:42:05am

re: #232 iLikeCandy

I visited here for some time before I joined. I've never seen an anti-Semite here -- it seems impossible -- but I don't know, maybe I've missed some bizarre dramas.

You smell funny.

238 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:44:21am

re: #237 Spare O'Lake

You smell funny.

Oh for heaven's sake. It really gripes me, but I'll change my avatar.

Don't tell me anti-semites can raise their heads here. I've seen neo-Nazis sniffing around, but anti-semites!?!?!?

239 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:44:32am

re: #232 iLikeCandy

Yes there re anti semites who do register. I'm not saying you are one. Please contribute as you see fit.

240 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:46:02am

re: #239 BatGuano

Yes there re anti semites who do register. I'm not saying you are one. Please contribute as you see fit.

Well, I suppose everyone registers.

241 freetoken  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:46:02am

re: #229 Sharmuta

I'm in California... not OK, and brought up OK only because it was one of those state GOP platforms that had particularly strong influence in it by the ID folk.

I know enough about the California GOP (and where they stand on the issues of concern to me) ... and as I stated last night have often (but not always) voted for their candidates.

This is a big country, and still growing, and because of that I for one am quite comfortable with any political party having a diverse set of beliefs, the so-called "big tent" approach to political consensus. However, that approach opens the door to problems similar to what Charles has w.r.t. ID/creationism being injected into the core GOP set of beliefs.

What does a group of people (in this case a political party) do when two parts of it are diametrically opposed on philosophical grounds? Don't know how the Democrats manage to keep a non-trivial number of anti-abortion members in an otherwise pro-abortion party... but they do it somehow.

242 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:46:46am

re: #235 littleoldlady

I think you're on to something, aboo! Offer voters the opportunity to beat the crap out of their representatives - for a fee, of course!

/byebye deficit!
//byebye recession!

Lol, would you like the position of Crap Hammer, Pitchfork & Torch Czar©? There are opening positions becoming available for good people?

243 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:48:15am

re: #242 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I am ABSOLUTELY a Pitchfork kinda gal.

/I'll buy TurboTax today and forget to pay my taxes.
//Boy, can I ever use a high paying gubmint job!

244 Render  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:49:55am

re: #236 iLikeCandy

If it were so, why would that make you uncomfortable?

REFRESH EARLY
AND OFTEN,
R

245 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:53:21am

re: #241 freetoken

I'm just not sure how a party can advocate smaller government and the rule of law on one hand, then on the other hand advocate creationism in the public schools. It reeks of hypocrisy to me. I don't think limited government and the rule of law can be selectively applied when it suits our desires. I just think those who disagree with me should re-evaluate why it is they think they're conservatives/republicans.

246 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:54:13am

Where's Blue tonight?

247 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:54:36am

re: #244 Render

If it were so, why would that make you uncomfortable?

REFRESH EARLY
AND OFTEN,
R

Like when someone is looking straight at you at a party and talking to someone else. Never mind, I could have said "funny" or "freaky."

248 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:38am

From American Thinker

Tim Schieferecke
Hope and change won the day on eleven and four.

Hope and change oft were spoken by Prez Forty Four.

And the masses, they bought it, hook, line, and sinker,

That seas would recede when arrived this great thinker.

But the bloom it has fallen off most rosy cheeks,

And the fainting has stopped now whenever he speaks.

Seas will recede but recession will not?

This to me seems psychotic, just a lib power plot.

Why do you cry wolf causing markets bad karma?

Spare us the drama new POTUS Obama!

249 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:59:03am

Here it come through the back door. And what a surprise no MFM coverage.

The liberals are at it again. In a new bill introduced the first day of present session of Congress, and with zero coverage from the MSM, H.R. 45 (Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009) targets all gun owners in the U.S.A.

Read the whole article Here

250 monkeytime  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:59:12am

Good morning lizards

Liberal radio failures are inversely proportionate to Fairness Doctrine drumbeat.

Unfairness Doctrine

251 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:59:47am

re: #248 Erik The Red

Spare us the drama new POTUS Obama!

Good luck with that. He claims that "No drama" is his motto, or his MO, or something.

252 Render  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:00:25am

re: #247 iLikeCandy

Your icon is ok by me, historically speaking. But that's just one commentors opinion.

REMAINS
TO BE
SEEN,
R

253 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:01:00am

re: #238 iLikeCandy

Oh for heaven's sake. It really gripes me, but I'll change my avatar.

Don't tell me anti-semites can raise their heads here. I've seen neo-Nazis sniffing around, but anti-semites!?!?!?

Do you know any neo-Nazis who are not anti-semites?

254 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:01:42am

re: #243 littleoldlady

Your name has been submitted, alas sans personal recommendation as I am no longer in very good standing for neglecting to mention the last order of Crap Sandwiches came from the famous Canine Restaurant & Run.

...one of those weeks.

255 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:01:51am

re: #253 Spare O'Lake

Do you know any neo-Nazis who are not anti-semites?

Yeah- those neo-nazis really love the Jews. ///

256 freetoken  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:32am

re: #245 Sharmuta

There are problems with terms "conservative" and "liberal" as self-described by many people I read or hear. Nevertheless, agree with you that those who are pushing the ID agenda are not being fully pressed ( by others in the "conservative" or Republican movement/party ) on what the ultimate outcome of the agenda entails.

257 monkeytime  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:03:05am

re: #253 Spare O'Lake

Do you know any neo-Nazis who are not anti-semites?

Would that be the Neo Nazis who's only objective is to lower the unemployment rates?

///

258 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:04:03am

re: #257 monkeytime

They support Israel- they can't be nazis! ///

259 Crux Australis  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:05:32am

As for the creationism/evolution debate from an Australian perspective:

No Australian political party has in their platform the teaching of creationism in ANY public school. Although creationism is taught in Catholic and independent Christian schools. Parents who don't want their children taught creationism should send them to a public school.

I wonder why the creationism/evolution debate isn't a big issue in Australia? Any thoughts?

260 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:07:21am

re: #255 Sharmuta

Yeah- those neo-nazis really love the Jews. ///

There are some in Eurabia who make that claim.
*spit*

261 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:18am

Test! I hope this is better.

262 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:41am

re: #259 Crux Australis

As for the creationism/evolution debate from an Australian perspective:

No Australian political party has in their platform the teaching of creationism in ANY public school. Although creationism is taught in Catholic and independent Christian schools. Parents who don't want their children taught creationism should send them to a public school.

I wonder why the creationism/evolution debate isn't a big issue in Australia? Any thoughts?

Not a big deal in S.Africa either. Never heard of it being taught in science class.

263 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:45am

Morning Lizards.

{lol}

264 Throbert McGee  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:09:47am

re: #19 Syrah

Are we CLEAR on this?

♪♫
You're a Clear!
You're a Class-IV Thetan!
You're a Clear!
Yeah, you're Operatin'!
You're an Auditor, running Engrammatic scans --
You're a Sea Org rally!
You're Kirstie Alley!
You're "on the cans"!
♪♫

(with humblest apologies to Cole Porter...)

265 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:10:06am

re: #251 iLikeCandy I have no Problem with your avatar BTW was just trying to help point out some of the symbology it represents and some of the comments that may come your way becasue of it. Especially on ID type threads we will have peple come by accusing Charles and other Lizards of being Nazi Sympathizers because ///Darwin preached the holocaust///. Your avatar will likely just make their arguements louder and more annoying because they will point to it and say "see there is proof."

266 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:10:32am

re: #252 Render

Your icon is ok by me, historically speaking. But that's just one commentors opinion.

REMAINS
TO BE
SEEN,
R

I changed it, as you see. I really don't mind. It griped me for about two seconds, but the last thing I want to do is create bad feelings if it's entirely avoidable.

267 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:10:46am

re: #256 freetoken

Well- I wont bore the morning crew to tears discussing it further, but perhaps we can pick up on this issue on the next ID thread.

268 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:11:09am

re: #259 Crux Australis Americans are getting better and better at playing hte Victim card.

269 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:11:37am

re: #261 iLikeCandy

Test! I hope this is better.

It is a tough, but fair crowd here Candy. Stick to what you believe in. If you can debate honestly and with integrity you will be most welcome. We all have our quirks that make the hair on our necks stand up.

270 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:12:11am

re: #253 Spare O'Lake

Do you know any neo-Nazis who are not anti-semites?

No. It's late here. What did I mean? Anti-semites who aren't neo-nazis. Those certainly exist.

271 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:13:04am

re: #267 Sharmuta
Awww comeon Bluebie bore us to tears so we watching Obama on the Boobtube doesn't make us cry for other reasons.

272 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:10am

re: #269 Erik The Red

It is a tough, but fair crowd here Candy. Stick to what you believe in. If you can debate honestly and with integrity you will be most welcome. We all have our quirks that make the hair on our necks stand up.

Goodness knows I have mine.

273 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:33am

re: #271 Rustler

I've decided the next time someone tells me they don't believe in evolution, I'm going to tell them I don't believe in gravity just to see their reaction.

274 Render  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:37am

re: #266 iLikeCandy

I suspect that one will work out much better for those who do not know or remember the historical context of the previous one.

ARMORED SAINT,
R

275 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:15:08am

re: #269 Erik The Red

Fuckn' A Bubba , well told.

276 akak  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:15:31am

Big test for Bibi today, no answer to rocket fire & he has to say no to Barak & Labor - he'll fail.

277 Luigi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:16:52am

They're trying to get a vote on this 'stimulus' bill right away because they know people will turn against it if they have time to think.

Call the US Senate and ask to speak with your senator's office. The Senate switchboard is towards the bottom of this page, below the email contact:

[Link: www.senate.gov...]

Tell them you're against it. Be polite. Tell them not to vote today because people need more time to see what's in it.

Try to reach both your senators. If you only call once, reach a Democrat.

Thanks. Have a nice day.

278 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:19:14am

re: #265 Rustler

I have no Problem with your avatar BTW was just trying to help point out some of the symbology it represents and some of the comments that may come your way becasue of it. Especially on ID type threads we will have peple come by accusing Charles and other Lizards of being Nazi Sympathizers because ///Darwin preached the holocaust///. Your avatar will likely just make their arguements louder and more annoying because they will point to it and say "see there is proof."

Yeesh. That's what I call "ruining it for everybody."

279 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:19:44am

re: #274 Render

Good tune.

280 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:21:55am

rightside! :-)

281 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:22:44am

re: #277 Luigi


Call the US Senate and ask to speak with your senator's office.

That[no phone numbers allowed] number? It's been "all circuits are busy" all day. There must be a new girl working the PBX or something.

282 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:22:53am

re: #276 akak

Big test for Bibi today, no answer to rocket fire & he has to say no to Barak & Labor - he'll fail.

I don't understand. What is saying "no" to?

283 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:23:20am

Oh, well, hopefully you know what number I was talking about.

285 Luigi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:24:44am

re: #281 iLikeCandy

Thanks for trying. Many have email as well.

You seem like a nice guy but your avatar gives me the creeps.

286 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:25:15am

Good morning, Lizards.

287 NYCHardhat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:25:49am

Good morning Goddess

288 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:00am

re: #283 iLikeCandy

Read Here Candy you may find this helpful for the future. Should be mandatory reading for all new Lizards

289 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:27:51am

re: #284 NYCHardhat

I think this man would cry like a baby if he had to deal with Bush's problems and media coverage.

Best part but I bet he will not listen.
So what’s my advice to President Obama? I would tell him, “Mr. President, you are going to make people angry no matter what you do so do the right thing. You won by not much more of a margin than President Bush did in 2004 and it won’t be enough to be reelected in 2012. Forget about making the special interests on the left happy; they are never happy. You won and they are still not happy. Abandon the stimulus package, extend the Bush tax cuts, cut capital gains taxes, and make government accountable and you’ll win the first round. Oh, and don’t watch television or listen to the radio, unless it’s me or Rush Limbaugh.”

290 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:28:07am

Good morning Godess

291 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:28:51am

re: #286 goddessoftheclassroom

{Morning gotc}

292 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:28:54am

goddess! :-)

293 NYCHardhat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:38am

re: #289 Erik The Red

Best part but I bet he will not listen.
So what’s my advice to President Obama? I would tell him, “Mr. President, you are going to make people angry no matter what you do so do the right thing. You won by not much more of a margin than President Bush did in 2004 and it won’t be enough to be reelected in 2012. Forget about making the special interests on the left happy; they are never happy. You won and they are still not happy. Abandon the stimulus package, extend the Bush tax cuts, cut capital gains taxes, and make government accountable and you’ll win the first round. Oh, and don’t watch television or listen to the radio, unless it’s me or Rush Limbaugh.”

I like that part. This guy is in a great position to be another Reagan. He'll blow it.

294 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:30:29am

re: #276 akak

akak! :-)

Another question: Is there a "lame-duck" time frame after the Israeli elections? How long between the election and the new folks take over?

295 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:31:02am

{NYCHardhat }
{Erik The Red}
{BatGuano}
{littleoldlady }

I hope y'all are doing well.

296 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:05am

Mornin' {goddess}.

297 NYCHardhat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:30am
298 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:40am

re: #284 NYCHardhat

NYCHardhat! :-)

I have a daily argument with myself ("You're never alone when you're schizophrenic!") whether to laugh or cry over this very public meltdown.

/conflicted

299 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:33:35am

re: #296 Sharmuta

Mornin' {goddess}.

{Sharmuta}

300 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:33:43am

re: #288 Erik The Red

Read Here Candy you may find this helpful for the future. Should be mandatory reading for all new Lizards

PIMF Here

301 NYCHardhat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:34:59am

re: #298 littleoldlady

NYCHardhat! :-)

I have a daily argument with myself ("You're never alone when you're schizophrenic!") whether to laugh or cry over this very public meltdown.

/conflicted

LOL. Reminds me of the bright side of Alzheimer's Disease. You're always meeting new people.

I know, I'm going to hell for that one.

302 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:36:08am

Mornign all! 22 here.
Krauthammer: Obama 's magical mystery tour is over

Charles predicted last night the Republican Senators would cave and the stimulus abomination would pass today. I'm not so sure.
I still HOPE it won't!

303 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:36:08am

re: #285 Luigi

Thanks for trying. Many have email as well.

You seem like a nice guy but your avatar gives me the creeps.

Oh no! I just changed it because it gave people the creeps. Have you read upthread by any chance? It's the cross of the Knights Templar, aka the Maltese Cross. I originally had one form (it has many), changed it to another because of the association people pointed out to me -- which I wasn't aware of as I don't hang with Odin types. I really want to keep it as the Knights Templar have some personal meaning for me, but I think I'm just going to have to give it up altogether.

304 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:36:40am

So let's start posting numbers to senator's offices. Who's first?

let's make this a lizard call-in morning.

Delay the vote!

305 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:21am

STOP THE PORKULOUS! STOP IT NOW


OUR FUTURE IS AT STAKE.


FIGHT, LIZARDS!

306 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:38:29am

well, now I'm completely open to suggestions.

307 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:39:11am

re: #306 iLikeCandy

well, now I'm completely open to suggestions.

How about a pic of your nic?

308 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:39:53am

{goddess}

309 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:39:54am

re: #304 astronmr20

So let's start posting numbers to senator's offices. Who's first?

let's make this a lizard call-in morning.

Delay the vote!

I just posted the all-purpose Washington D.C. number but it got auto-replaced. If we're online, however, we can certainly find it elsewhere.

310 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:40:52am

re: #297 NYCHardhat

WTF?

Ok, I swear I'm really not a hard-hearted witch, but I don't see the power company as the villain here.

1. The man had the money to pay his bills. Assuming he was competent, he should have/could have set up direct payment so he wouldn't have to worry about sending in the payment,
2. I'm assuming the man didn't have family or was estranged from them
3. If the man was incompetent, who's responsibility is he?

Bottom line: a person has a right to be left alone if he wishes. If he ignores bills, he's making a choice. The PROBLEM, of course, is what to do about people who are incompetent to make decisions and who don't have family to make those decisions for them. Can the court appoint guardians for the elderly? How would they become aware of the need?

311 seekeroftruth  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:41:17am

re: #305 astronmr20

Your right about keeping the pressure on. If Reid had the 60 votes last night, he would have had the vote last night. Powerline has some good points: [Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

The Dems have a real problem, however, in that no matter what the Senate does, the process has a ways to go. The House and Senate bills are different (and probably will become more different still), so a conference committee will have to reconcile them. That can't be done overnight. The final bill will then have to pass both chambers, so Representatives and Senators will have to go on record once more.

I don't know how long that will take, but the Dems don't have much time: as we noted here, public support for the pork bill has dropped by a net seventeen points in just two weeks. That can fairly be described as "free-fall." In another week, when the Democrats have to vote again, the bill will be distinctly unpopular, assuming the Republicans keep up their criticisms and continue to propose much better alternatives.

312 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:41:30am

re: #297 NYCHardhat

WTF?

Dementia.
Did this guy have family?

313 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:42:14am

re: #309 iLikeCandy

I just posted the all-purpose Washington D.C. number but it got auto-replaced. If we're online, however, we can certainly find it elsewhere.

No telephone numbers permitted on LGF.

314 NYCHardhat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:42:26am

re: #302 Jim in Virginia

Mornign all! 22 here.
Krauthammer: Obama 's magical mystery tour is over

Charles predicted last night the Republican Senators would cave and the stimulus abomination would pass today. I'm not so sure.
I still HOPE it won't!

"A failure to act, and act now, will turn crisis into a catastrophe."

I always love these statements. You have to act now...just sign on the dotted line...I need a credit card number... etc.

315 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:43:01am

re: #308 rightside

{goddess}

{rightside}!

316 NYCHardhat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:44:11am

re: #310 goddessoftheclassroom

Ok, I swear I'm really not a hard-hearted witch, but I don't see the power company as the villain here.

1. The man had the money to pay his bills. Assuming he was competent, he should have/could have set up direct payment so he wouldn't have to worry about sending in the payment,
2. I'm assuming the man didn't have family or was estranged from them
3. If the man was incompetent, who's responsibility is he?

Bottom line: a person has a right to be left alone if he wishes. If he ignores bills, he's making a choice. The PROBLEM, of course, is what to do about people who are incompetent to make decisions and who don't have family to make those decisions for them. Can the court appoint guardians for the elderly? How would they become aware of the need?

Power companies are never the villains, just ask me, I work for the best one./

317 NYCHardhat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:44:33am

re: #312 Jim in Virginia

Dementia.
Did this guy have family?

That is the question.

318 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:46:52am

re: #316 NYCHardhat

Power companies are never the villains, just ask me, I work for the best one./

Would that be Con-Ed?

319 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:47:27am

New update from Michael Yon

This will be a long year in Afghanistan, and I plan to spend about six months or more, there or in the region. Not looking forward to months of combat, but the war is only worsening and very few writers remain who will embed with combat forces for any length of time. I don't know of any, actually, remaining who will go for months on end. Not sure how much of my 2009 will be with U.S. forces; some of our allies are requesting coverage and extending the red carpet, and it's very important to know how our military alliance is doing. The alliance is key to the war. Whether it shows signs of falling apart, or sticking together, is crucial.

Embedding is very difficult, dangerous, time consuming, and expensive, and so long embeds simply do not seem to be happening.

My end-goal for 2009 is to bring back news and summary so that the reader will understand the overall trajectory of the war. Are we winning or losing? Is it worth it? What exactly are our goals in Afghanistan? I don't know what our goals are. Does anyone know?

My reporting from 2006, unembedded in Afghanistan, proved that it is not necessary to embed with U.S. forces, or even to consult with commanders or the Pentagon, to predict the trajectory of the war with reasonable accuracy. I like covering combat forces simply because I like them. And they need coverage, especially so since practically nobody else will do it for them, but much of the decision making regarding embeds will be based on how much support derives from command. End goal: to accurately summarize for the reader the trajectory of the war, and long embeds might actually hinder my ability to predict the war.

Iraq only continues to improve. I plan to return to Iraq this year. That war truly is over. We can start bringing our men and women home, but it's crucial to pay close attention to the advice of our military commanders.

Read the Whole Article Here

320 NYCHardhat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:47:29am

re: #318 soxfan4life

Would that be Con-Ed?

Yes. We are loved.

321 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:48:41am

It should be a green football now. Test.

322 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:49:01am

Lovely green football. Back to the drawing board.

323 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:50:10am

Good morning Lizards. Day seventeen, America held hostage.

324 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:51:55am

re: #321 iLikeCandy

It should be a green football now. Test.

re: #322 iLikeCandy

Lovely green football. Back to the drawing board.

Refresh after you change your icon. You now have a naval orange. You can do better than that///

325 abolitionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:51:55am

re: #297 NYCHardhat

WTF?

The first reports I read of this indicated that the elecrtical limiter/cutoff device had been installed and that the old man was notified in person about it, altho possibly he had not understood clearly.

A later story indicated that the old man had received no notice whatsoever.

326 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:52:24am

re: #313 Erik The Red

No telephone numbers permitted on LGF.

So I discovered. Since astronmr suggested we post numbers, I thought I'd shoot that one down.

And how do I get my green football back? That orange is completely uninspiring.

327 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:52:39am

re: #323 opnion

Good morning Lizards. Day seventeen, America held hostage.

Morning opnion. Three days left(toes)

328 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:52:56am

re: #322 iLikeCandy

You should go with candy for an avatar.

329 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:54:04am

re: #324 Erik The Red

Refresh after you change your icon. You now have a naval orange. You can do better than that///

Silly, I knew I had an orange. Do I really need a sarc tag when I'm looking at an orange and calling it a football?

330 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:54:49am

re: #328 Sharmuta

You should go with candy for an avatar.

The irony is that I hate candy. I only typed it in real fast it for my nic because someone was saying it on the radio at the moment I was registering.

331 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:08am

The mayor fom the Louisiana city that is asking for eight Harley Davidsons in the stimulous package was just on FNC.
When he was asked how many jobs that would create, he had a answer,
"It might create one or two at Harley."

332 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:19am

Links to numbers.

333 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:19am

re: #328 Sharmuta

You should go with candy for an avatar.

There's lots to choose from

334 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:56:07am

re: #327 Erik The Red

Morning opnion. Three days left(toes)

Morning Erik, my work is almost done.

335 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:56:12am

Virginia senators:

[Link: www.senate.gov...]

336 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:56:25am

re: #330 iLikeCandy

The irony is that I hate candy. I only typed it in real fast it for my nic because someone was saying it on the radio at the moment I was registering.

Then go with candy corn- I hate it.

337 littleoldlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:57:14am

re: #331 opnion

opnion! :-)

I took a wrong turn somewhere. How do I get out of BizarroLand?

338 Luigi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:57:40am

Here again is the contact page for the Senate. He has the phone and emails.

[Link: www.senate.gov...]

Do not believe that you cannot contact them. The phone number works, and most have emails.

Also, they actually want to hear from you. They rise and fall by public opinion. Call your senators today and tell them you are against the bill and they should not vote on it today so that people can have more of a chance to analyze what is in it.

339 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:58:06am

re: #330 iLikeCandy

The irony is that I hate candy. I only typed it in real fast it for my nic because someone was saying it on the radio at the moment I was registering.

About This One

340 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:58:19am

re: #337 littleoldlady

opnion! :-)

I took a wrong turn somewhere. How do I get out of BizarroLand?


There is no escape, we are all in for the duration.

341 Luigi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:58:24am

Sorry for typos. I'm hurrying to work.

342 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:58:43am

Noonan: Bracing Ourselves

All week the word I kept thinking of was "braced." America is braced, like people who are going fast and see a crash ahead. They know huge and historic challenges are here. They're not confident they can or will be met. Our most productive citizens are our most sophisticated, and our most sophisticated have the least faith in the ability of our institutions to face the future and get us through whole. They have the least faith because they work in them.

Peggy, you need an in-depth briefing by Dr. Colin Gray - unfortunately we're a wee-bit late. Slop's on.

343 monkeytime  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:58:52am

re: #301 NYCHardhat

LOL. Reminds me of the bright side of Alzheimer's Disease. You're always meeting new people.

I know, I'm going to hell for that one.

And there are no reruns!

344 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:48am

I've called 4 already.


Voicemail is full.

345 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:03am

Sigh. Off I must go once again. Have a great day, Lizards!

346 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:10am

Dija catch the Our New Age president , on TV last night from the Democrat Retreat?
Is it just me , or is he in front of a camera every day?
I do not remember a president being more activist in such a short time, it seems manic.

347 claspur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:02:04am

Did you guys and gals read and hear the audio what Etta James said about Beyonnce and NObama? Too funny. :o)

It's down the left side of the page on Drudge.

348 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:02:58am

re: #336 Sharmuta

Then go with candy corn- I hate it.

BLEAGH. Getting that damn candy corn in my Halloween bag as a kid was one of the biggest ripoffs of my youth. For years, I didn't even realize it was supposed to be "corn." I thought it was some sort of medicine slipped in there as a cruel joke.

349 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:03:02am

Well, Mccain's mailbox is full.

350 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:03:26am

re: #347 claspur

Did you guys and gals read and hear the audio what Etta James said about Beyonnce and NObama? Too funny. :o)

It's down the left side of the page on Drudge.

Who the hell is etta james?

351 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:04:08am

re: #347 claspur

Did you guys and gals read and hear the audio what Etta James said about Beyonnce and NObama? Too funny. :o)

It's down the left side of the page on Drudge.

'
"You know the guy with the big ears. He's not my President"
The crowd laughed & applauded.

352 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:04:16am

re: #346 opnion

Dija catch the Our New Age president , on TV last night from the Democrat Retreat?
Is it just me , or is he in front of a camera every day?
I do not remember a president being more activist in such a short time, it seems manic.

He doesn't know how to do anything but campaign.

353 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:04:17am

re: #346 opnion

Man spends more time in front of the camera than he does working. Obama's efinition of what he was elected to do is over turn every one of Bush's EO's. He doesn't want to write em himself so others write it up tell him it Counters bush he signs it no need to read it since it is anti Bush so America will love it.

354 claspur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:05:22am

re: #350 astronmr20

Who the hell is etta james?

71 year old Blues singer gal...saw her twice years ago when I lived in Mpls., and once in Chicago.

355 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:05:56am

Obama must have asked senators not to empty their voicemail boxes so htey couldn't here the Anti-Porkulous messages from their constituents.

356 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:06:14am

Mayor Daley:
refuses to make stimulus projects public.

People of Chicago,

Where are your balls? Have you misplaced them? Here's a rail, some tar, and some feathers.

..or do you like it in the a**?

357 abolitionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:06:24am

re: #335 astronmr20

Virginia senators:

[Link: www.senate.gov...]

Warner, Mark R. - (D - VA) Class II (term expires in 2015)
Webb, Jim - (D - VA) Class I (term expires in 2013)

358 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:07:31am

re: #357 abolitionist
Obama, barack Hussein (d) president Class:has none

359 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:08:51am

re: #352 iLikeCandy

He doesn't know how to do anything but campaign.

That's exactly right. He doesn't seem to understand how to pace himself.
Better to do nothing until you have some idea what your doing. The MSM spinning his stammering into him just being thoughtful, just looks silly now.
He stammers cause the dude just doesn't get it

360 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:09:09am

Left 2 messages so far.

Get to work, lizards!

361 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:04am

re: #353 Rustler

BHO blames everything on the last eight years, a real slap at W.
He just ignores the years that the Dems controlled both houses.

362 jim in virginia  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:12:55am

I just wrote my Senators:

Senator Webb, I hope you will support the revisions to the stimulus bill being proposed by Senators Collins and Nelson. The bill in its current form is fatally flawed.
It is too big.
It is loaded with pork.
It contains far too many programs that are not stimulus and should be considered for funding as part of a normal appropriations process.
Much of the funding will not be used until 2011.
Someone in Washington has to be an adult. Do the right thing. No stimulus bill is better than this $920 billion bill.
Thank you.

Easy contact form (they require address, phone and email)

363 claspur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:00am

re: #351 opnion

'
"You know the guy with the big ears. He's not my President"
The crowd laughed & applauded.

Did you listen closely to that audio ...she flipped her audience when she brought-up NObama, and then said, He ain't my president.
I would die to see their facial reactions there. lmao

364 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:53am

re: #361 opnion
Wow someone actually read the Diarrhea I droppped there. I relooked at my post and couldn't quite figure out WTF I was trying to say.

365 freetoken  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:15:44am

re: #350 astronmr20

Who the hell is etta james?

...kids these days...

366 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:16:23am

Good morning.

Look for a quesy day in the market. The futures are mixed, the Nikkei and Hang Seng were up, but bad employment news is due out today and the President continues to bash the economy to try to panic enough votes to get his massive movement to Marxism.

Documented tax cheat Tim Geithner still has no clue what to do about the banking situation. So far he has coasted on the moves done by Paulson, and the market is losing patience with him.

Something else to consider. The Messiah has yet to identify a Car Czar, so GM and Chrysler have had no one to work with in restructuring their organizations. Therefore, get ready for another $15 billion handout to the car companies to buy the Administration another 2 or 3 months to get their act together on this.

In the meantime the President,with a clear majority in both houses, demagogues the Republicans trying to get his pork bill passed. He can point fingers at others, he can make high sounding hiring policies that he then ignores, and give good speeches, but he has no idea how to lead.

Can we stop giving him the benefit of the doubt yet?

367 claspur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:46am

re: #365 freetoken

...kids these days...

Kiddz are funny from a comfortable distance...*sigh

368 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:55am

re: #363 claspur

Did you listen closely to that audio ...she flipped her audience when she brought-up NObama, and then said, He ain't my president.
I would die to see their facial reactions there. lmao

It was a truly beautiful moment.

369 jim in virginia  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:17am

Folks, contact your Senators. You have two.
Don't contact Senators from other states.
It just ain't right.

370 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:39am

re: #364 Rustler

Wow someone actually read the Diarrhea I droppped there. I relooked at my post and couldn't quite figure out WTF I was trying to say.

You made sense.

371 claspur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:19:37am

re: #368 opnion

It was a truly beautiful moment.

OP...tell you what...it made my day today. ;o)

372 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:19:56am

Just left a message on Senator Dodd's voicemail. Was hard to hold it together, since he was one of the architects of this shitty mess.

374 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:09am

Kirstin Powers is now on FNC. It seems like the Dem talking point now , is that the really silly parts of the stimulous bill are Pelosi's fault.
Looks like Barry may be willing to toss her off of the sled.

375 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:11am

re: #369 jim in virginia Senators serving in the US Senate serve all the states of the Union. It is right to contact other states senators in this case since the issue at hand effects us all as Americans. Contacting a VA senator about a highway he wants built is a different matter tho.

376 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:19am

re: #366 3 wood

I thought we decided last week the benefit thing ended. We are now on to betting just how far The One can get the Country in the tank, and in what amazingly small amount of time.

Good Morning!

377 claspur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:52am

re: #372 astronmr20

Just left a message on Senator Dodd's voicemail. Was hard to hold it together, since he was one of the architects of this shitty mess.

Mr. Dodd appears to be "Blocked-up" all the time?

378 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:23:02am

re: #374 opnion
Can he wait til the sled is in Shark infested waters?

379 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:23:54am

re: #378 Rustler
Wait NM that would be cruel to the Sharks.

380 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:26:21am

re: #353 Rustler

Man spends more time in front of the camera than he does working.

The Messiah is reminding me more and more of a CEO I reported to many years ago. This CEO saw her job as mainly socializing on the phone with the Board members. She would show up about 9 am, immediately get on the phone with various Board members and gossip with them, with her back to the door so she would not see us staff standing there in line to see her and try to deal with work related issues. She would literally do that for hours on end, until you gave up and went back to your office and just did whatever you had to on your own to get through the problems yourself.

Then when a crisis came up, she would sneak out a side exit, go hide at a local watering hole and call into her executive secretary every hour or so until the rest of us had dealt with whatever the crisis was. Then she would come back and take credit for the solution we had come up with if it worked, or start pointing fingers at us if it had not worked well.

That is Obama, all over again.

381 claspur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:26:24am

You guys have a good day, and a nice weekend. :o)

382 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:26:32am

re: #378 Rustler

Can he wait til the sled is in Shark infested waters?

That would probably be the preference. Obama's people know that Pelosi will be a constant source of embarassment.
Now tha fight on FNC is whethr or not Pelosi & the Dem's let Obama down.
Rich Lowry just pointed out the Barry embraced the package, it is only now that he is embarassed that he is dancing.

383 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:28:51am

re: #374 opnion

Kirstin Powers is now on FNC. It seems like the Dem talking point now , is that the really silly parts of the stimulous bill are Pelosi's fault.
Looks like Barry may be willing to toss her off of the sled.

Toss her off the sled? Why doesn't he reach out to her and melt her with hope? He'll need those skills for next week, when he officially starts sleeping on the couch.

384 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:29:20am

re: #376 ArmyWife

I thought we decided last week the benefit thing ended. We are now on to betting just how far The One can get the Country in the tank, and in what amazingly small amount of time.

Good Morning!

Good morning. OK, I'm good with that. I say he totally screws the pooch within 6 months.

I was just being deferential to the handful of Lizards who lectured the rest of us after the election about giving The Messiah the benefit of the doubt.

385 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:30:58am

re: #383 iLikeCandy

Toss her off the sled? Why doesn't he reach out to her and melt her with hope? He'll need those skills for next week, when he officially starts sleeping on the couch.


I wonder if our egomaniac President now has a grudging respect for Bush?
"I didn't know that all the decisions would be so big" WTF?

386 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:34:11am

re: #385 opnion ///He know has a deep abiding respect for GWB but is unable to voice it for fear of total anarchy. Not he now thinks Bush has undue influence on the Pelosi beast.

387 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:34:19am

re: #374 opnion

Kirstin Powers is now on FNC. It seems like the Dem talking point now , is that the really silly parts of the stimulous bill are Pelosi's fault.
Looks like Barry may be willing to toss her off of the sled.

Sir, I wouldn't recommend the Red Herring this evening. Those are for...well...you know.

388 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:38:05am

re: #385 opnion

I wonder if our egomaniac President now has a grudging respect for Bush?
"I didn't know that all the decisions would be so big" WTF?

omg don't even get me started. I love to speculate about Obama's psychology, and I've been speculatin' up a storm about how his views of Bush must have changed by now. Seriously, I bet he fervently wishes he could have a Cheney. I can see him running to his staff and saying, "Oh, you haven't shredded all that Bushobilia yet, have you? Mind, I wanted some for my private museum of How Not To Do It. For humorous purposes only, you understand. Careful, don't spill koolaid on that, it might be important -- er, funny!"

389 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:38:22am

re: #385 opnion

I wonder if our egomaniac President now has a grudging respect for Bush?
"I didn't know that all the decisions would be so big" WTF?

I don't know about that, but Olberman and Maddow obviously still think Bush is in the White House. I clicked by each for a few minutes last night to scout the enemy, and both were in their usual full core melt down outrage over Bush and Chenney.

Earth to moonbats, Bush and Chenney are gone, you won, now deal with it.

390 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:38:51am

Gotta run, later.

391 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:40:09am

re: #389 3 wood

I don't know about that, but Olberman and Maddow obviously still think Bush is in the White House. I clicked by each for a few minutes last night to scout the enemy, and both were in their usual full core melt down outrage over Bush and Chenney.

Earth to moonbats, Bush and Chenney are gone, you won, now deal with it.

Democrats are notoriously poor losers, but they apparently are also bad winners. Or maybe democrats are just plain bad people?

392 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:38am

re: #389 3 wood

I don't know about that, but Olberman and Maddow obviously still think Bush is in the White House. I clicked by each for a few minutes last night to scout the enemy, and both were in their usual full core melt down outrage over Bush and Chenney.

Earth to moonbats, Bush and Chenney are gone, you won, now deal with it.

Yes, funny about Olbermann's meltdown. I'm sure Obama was greedily poring over the Cheney interview, gobbling up every crumb of wisdom he could find and hoping Cheney will soon put out a newsletter.

393 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:50am

Gaza
Ankara chief prosecutor's office says investigation following complaint filed by Islamic human rights organization against Peres, Olmert and Livni

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

It's dam good that Erdogan hates only Israel and not Jews?

394 tappin52  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:43:04am

Does anyone know why, on some threads, I can not get the comments? I wanted to read your reactions to Obama's talk to the Democrats last night and on that thread no comments are showing up for me. This happens every day. I'm asking here because I can get the comments here.

395 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:43:49am

re: #394 tappin52

Does anyone know why, on some threads, I can not get the comments? I wanted to read your reactions to Obama's talk to the Democrats last night and on that thread no comments are showing up for me. This happens every day. I'm asking here because I can get the comments here.

What are you clicking on?

396 tappin52  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:46:21am

I click onto the comments #, just like I did to get here.

397 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:46:57am

re: #386 Rustler
now not Know PIMF cause spell check just isn't enough.

398 tupac23x  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:48:10am

OT and this is a hit and run so I hope it hasn't been covered, but a member of the Illinois state legislature wants Bill Ayers fired.

State legislator wants William Ayers fired from UIC

That's a start.

Then we go to work on him. Waterboard? Heh. We do it the Chicago way with radiators and sheeit!

Later lizards!

399 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:48:28am

re: #391 Nevergiveup
Demonrats are people?

400 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:49:12am

re: #399 Rustler

Demonrats are people?

Point taken.

401 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:49:27am

re: #396 tappin52

I click onto the comments #, just like I did to get here.

What do you get by clicking this?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

402 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:50:08am

No stimulus.

Call your senators.


Do it. DO IT.


403 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:53:48am

Pakistan releases man who sold centrifuges, nuke secrets to Iran

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, the world's leading rogue nuclear sales entrepreneur, was released from house arrest by a Pakistani court on Friday.

Our good friends the Pakistanis? So far all this love for Obama is turning out real swell?

404 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:55:12am

Obama's stimulus package AKA Spendifurious overSpendification.

405 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:58:50am

re: #386 Rustler

re: #391 Nevergiveup

re: #388 iLikeCandy

re: #387 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
How long will Barry & the rest of the Dems be able to blame Bush for everything? At some point they have to own the problems.
Obama jkeeps trashing the economy & screaming "catstrophe."
You would swear the we are about to hit an iceberg.
'Don't thaik , just give me what I want."

406 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:59:53am

re: #399 Rustler

Demonrats are people?

They become Soylent Green!

407 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:02:28am

re: #405 opnion 4-8 years and god I hope it's only 4. Obama will continue to Blame Rush, Bush, Cheney, Joe and a host of others as long as he is in office. He will never get it right but will always say it didn't work because of the problems that started with Bush's administration serving as Rush Limbaugh's proxy.

408 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:03:48am

re: #406 opnion
So there is some use we can get outta them. I've noticed the Manure that spews forth from their lips doesn't work well as fertilizer as it's to caustic.

Obama-A cruel Lie, and a Caustic Yarn.

409 abolitionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:04:19am

re: #394 tappin52

If you have a tab open without comments, click on the
nnn comments (centered in the column) below Charles' post.

I believe the state (to show vs hide comments) is remembered and re-applied whenever you then click on a prev-thread or next-thread link. However, that may not be the case when you open a thread from the front page, or by following some other link to a thread.

410 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:05:19am

re: #405 opnion

re: #391 Nevergiveup

re: #388 iLikeCandy

re: #387 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
How long will Barry & the rest of the Dems be able to blame Bush for everything? At some point they have to own the problems.
Obama jkeeps trashing the economy & screaming "catstrophe."
You would swear the we are about to hit an iceberg.
'Don't thaik , just give me what I want."

Our favorite self-parodist, Keith Olbermann, has changed his indispensable "Bushed!" segment to "Still Bushed!" Some of them will never give it up.

411 Wishing  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:07:38am

Good morning, Lizards. I am just home from work. What did I miss?

412 MandyManners  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:07:52am

When I am Empress of the Universe, the entire month of February will be banished.

413 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:09:33am

re: #412 MandyManners

When I am Empress of the Universe, the entire month of February will be banished.

Why MM? It is the shortest month? How is the weather by you today?

414 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:10:02am

re: #405 opnion
Forever.

415 phil flavin  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:10:02am

re: #412 MandyManners

You have my vote!

416 Wishing  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:10:33am

This just in (on my cell phone):

Hamas just launched a rocket at Ashkelon and at the Negev.
May all Israelis be safe!

417 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:13:14am

re: #411 Wishing

Good morning, Lizards. I am just home from work. What did I miss?

Random Obama dread. I think most interpretations of his actions for the foreseeable future will have to be psychological rather than ideological or rational or strategic. Don't think in terms of "liberalism" or "socialism" or even "stupid." Think "panic mode,"narcissism," "vengeful." Those are my thots.

418 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:14:36am

re: #414 rightside

Forever.

At some point Obama will look like a fraud. I wonder if he is relying too much on his human nature rather than the divine?

419 Wishing  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:14:51am

re: #417 iLikeCandy

Random Obama dread. I think most interpretations of his actions for the foreseeable future will have to be psychological rather than ideological or rational or strategic. Don't think in terms of "liberalism" or "socialism" or even "stupid." Think "panic mode,"narcissism," "vengeful." Those are my thots.

Ya know, if he gets angry at someone, I think he will blister em. I have a hunch he is a bit of a loose cannon.

420 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:14:54am

re: #416 Wishing

This just in (on my cell phone):

Hamas just launched a rocket at Ashkelon and at the Negev.
May all Israelis be safe!

And all we can do is wish safety upon them?! No, I don't quarrel with you. It's just so outrageous.

421 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:15:37am

re: #411 Wishing

Good morning, Lizards. I am just home from work. What did I miss?

We solved the meaning of life, but it has been deleted & I forgot.

422 Wishing  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:16:11am

re: #420 iLikeCandy

And all we can do is wish safety upon them?! No, I don't quarrel with you. It's just so outrageous.

Olmert certainly hasnt followed up on his threats to pound the Hamas into oblivion, so yes, right now, all we can do is pray for their safety.

423 MandyManners  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:16:16am
424 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:16:30am

re: #419 Wishing

Ya know, if he gets angry at someone, I think he will blister em. I have a hunch he is a bit of a loose cannon.

I firmly believe that there will soon be stories of violent temper tantrums in the Oval Office.

425 abolitionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:16:53am

re: #421 opnion

42, iirc.

426 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:17:04am

re: #419 Wishing

Ya know, if he gets angry at someone, I think he will blister em. I have a hunch he is a bit of a loose cannon.

Oh yeah, I bet that little twit can throw a world class hissy fit.

427 Wishing  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:17:49am

re: #421 opnion

We solved the meaning of life, but it has been deleted & I forgot.

That's OK, I am going to bed in a bit, so I will check in later, in case I find myself in need of that meaning.
Thanks, BTW!

428 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:19:51am

re: #427 Wishing

That's OK, I am going to bed in a bit, so I will check in later, in case I find myself in need of that meaning.
Thanks, BTW!

Have a good sleep. If I do remember I will post it. It might have had something to do with serving Obama, but I just can't remember.

429 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:20:45am

Obama
Carter policies
Clinton ethics
Whats not to like?

430 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:20:53am

re: #419 Wishing
I look at Obama and I think all the Bullying and blackmail(of witnesses and women he cheated with) from the Clinton Administration will look like nothing more than a lark. Obama from the way he treated an easy Question from Samuel Joseph Wurzeberker has neither the temperment or the will to properly do the job.

431 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:21:08am

This is rich:

Turkish prosecutors said Friday that they were investigating whether Israeli leaders should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity over the recent military offensive in the Gaza Strip.

The Ankara chief prosecutor's office said the probe was opened after Mazlum-Der, an Islamic-oriented human rights organization in Turkey, filed an official complaint against Israeli leaders.

The group alleges that genocide, torture and crimes against humanity were committed by President Shimon Peres, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and the country's army and military intelligence chiefs.

And after denying the Armenian genocide, now they deny the Holocaust.

432 Wishing  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:21:16am

re: #428 opnion

Have a good sleep. If I do remember I will post it. It might have had something to do with serving Obama, but I just can't remember.

Ahh, yes, then I DO need to know!
What better than serving the One!

433 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:22:14am

re: #428 opnion

Have a good sleep. If I do remember I will post it. It might have had something to do with serving Obama, but I just can't remember.

I thought it had something to do with boobies, drugs/ booze and rock and roll.

434 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:22:53am

re: #433 Erik The Red
That used to be the meaning of life in the new Obama fantasy world we are above such base pleasures.

435 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:23:27am

re: #431 abaleh

Islamic-oriented human rights organization

What the f#$* is that? one that condones child molestation, honor killings, mass murder, but investigates whatever Joos do?

// oh wait, that's Amnesty International

436 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:25:00am

Mazlem-der probably is the turking branch of Amnesty International.

re: #435 abaleh

437 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:27:04am

re: #434 Rustler

That used to be the meaning of life in the new Obama fantasy world we are above such base pleasures.

Well I have spent the last 26 years in Africa. I may be called a savage when I return to the US mid year. So be it. I love boobies, scotch and good rock n roll.

438 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:28:19am

re: #418 opnion

I just don't know. I truly believe the drive-bys will not let him fail, no matter what. Only in the face of a major catastrophe, will they *MAYBE* question his competence to be POTUS.

Yet another cabinet nominee having family tax issues. How many will it be before the drive-bys call him out on it? How many Gibbs' gaffes? When, as POTUS, your party (who's in the majority) cannot pass your plan, should he be called a failure?

439 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:28:33am
440 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:28:35am

re: #437 Erik The Red That ok I just a gun clinging non religious nut.

441 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:28:54am

re: #437 Erik The Red

Those three items have built nations.

442 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:30:04am

re: #438 rightside
Yeah I love that he can't get his bill passed but has more than enough clout in the houses to easily pass any of his agendas as long as he doesn't accidentally veto it.

443 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:31:00am

re: #442 Rustler
Bah has more than enough to pass it thru the houses but its the Republicans faults he can't succeed.

444 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:31:28am

re: #441 rightside
And Destroyed em.

445 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:31:43am

re: #438 rightside

Why are these tax liens not as important as Joe the Plumber's 1 tax lien, I ask?

446 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:32:57am

re: #445 ArmyWife
Because Joe had the Audacity to ask Obama a question. These are just Obama's shills and bus fodder.

447 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:34:00am

re: #446 Rustler

Oh. That makes sense. ;)

448 Wishing  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:34:38am

Good night lizards!
Have a great day!

449 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:35:07am

Does this apply to the Islamic student associations?

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

450 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:39:15am

I suppose I should go to work and be a productive citizen least Obama not get the chance to tax me into oblivion.

Hey! An Impeach Obama website has erupted! Anyone else seen it?

451 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:39:51am

re: #445 ArmyWife

True dat. JTP was excoriated and mocked for what he was. Something is very wrong when Joe sixpack wants a better life for himself, by dreaming of one day owning a plumbing company, and taking advantage of the very freedoms this country was built on.

Owning a business, employing people, which in turn improves their lives, and making your own life better through earning money by hard work, are things that should be trumpeted to everyone in this country... by everyone.

But nooo! JTP is a tax cheat, and not even a real plumber! He's a greedy rethuglican, and a mean-spirited, racist/bigot/homophobe who hates blacks and wants to force senior citizens to eat dogfood, while giving the wealthiest Americans tax breaks.

452 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:40:16am

re: #444 Rustler

Yes, but what a party!

453 seekeroftruth  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:40:32am

re: #449 ArmyWife

Does this apply to the Islamic student associations?

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

I was wondering the same thing when I read that.

454 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:40:58am

re: #449 ArmyWife Of course not. ///That would be racist to deny this poor belabored ethnic group their oppurtunity to practice their govt sanctioned religious rights.

455 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:41:32am

Has anyone seen the snippets of the woman who had 8 kids recently? What a fruitcake. The Dr. that fertilized her should have his license revoked.

456 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:42:09am

re: #452 rightside
Ahh so you were there Tuesday night.

457 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:43:06am

re: #456 Rustler

Yes, but only as an observer. My partying days are over :^)

458 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:43:29am

Good morning all!

Did the Lightworker do anything stupid while I was asleep?

Anybody seen Scottishbuzzsaw lately?

459 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:43:37am

Later Lizards. Friday afternoon here. Off to the pub. See you later.

460 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:43:55am

You guys have a great day. To work I go!

461 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:45:25am

re: #457 rightside Mine have been over since I got back from Korea in 01. I still have the occasional beer every now and again but party's are done.

462 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:47:54am

If you want ruin your day, read this.

463 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:48:24am

The French President revealed he was not certain he would seek re-election in 2012. Asked why, he explained: “Because my job is very difficult. It needs a lot of energy, a lot of strength to do it and I have put all my strength into doing it as well as possible.”

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Maybe your spending to much time and energy in bed with that wife of yours?

464 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:48:26am

re: #438 rightside

I just don't know. I truly believe the drive-bys will not let him fail, no matter what. Only in the face of a major catastrophe, will they *MAYBE* question his competence to be POTUS.

Yet another cabinet nominee having family tax issues. How many will it be before the drive-bys call him out on it? How many Gibbs' gaffes? When, as POTUS, your party (who's in the majority) cannot pass your plan, should he be called a failure?

The MSM will ignore and apologize away anything short of a major terrorist attack.

Have you heard a word about Obama's ignoring Kentucky with the ice storm? no.

They are running cover for Obama on the tax scandals, talking about how this is the first President in 8 years to admit mistakes, thus taking more shots at Bush.

They are complete and total whores.

465 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:49:55am

re: #462 rightside

If you want ruin your day, read this.

I always thought this guy was going to be a disaster for America, but to be honest, it's worse than I even thought it would be and we're not even a month into this horror show.

466 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:50:14am

Fun stuff at Michelle Malkin:
“An analyst on Bloomberg just said the talk in Washington is that the Stimulus bill must pass today because many Senators are booked to a security “junket” to Munich tomorrow. Your govt. at work.”

and

Reid on floor…will work into night…”I don’t have 60 votes yet…we should outlaw polls…”

467 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:51:04am

re: #462 rightside

If you want ruin your day, read this.

I just finished reading that.
Made me sick.

468 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:51:23am

re: #466 reine.de.tout

Fun stuff at Michelle Malkin:
“An analyst on Bloomberg just said the talk in Washington is that the Stimulus bill must pass today because many Senators are booked to a security “junket” to Munich tomorrow. Your govt. at work.”

and

Reid on floor…will work into night…”I don’t have 60 votes yet…we should outlaw polls…”

We should never have allowed Nevada to be a state.
/

469 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:52:18am

re: #462 rightside Before i read this is it something that's going to set me off really hard? I mean I'm at work I can't just start cussing at the comp.

470 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:52:52am

re: #468 Nevergiveup

We should never have allowed Nevada to be a state.
/

I tell you - if Reid really said that polls should be outlawed - what he is advocating, there, basically, is that the public be kept in the dark.

Can you imagine? An official of our government saying that the public should be kept unaware of what is going on.

471 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:52:56am

re: #464 3 wood

Don't get me started on them. In my opinion, they are nothing more than propagandists, who influenced the outcome of this election. The sound you are hearing is the death of democracy.

472 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:53:07am

re: #469 Rustler
Ok I saw the title I'll wait til I get home.

473 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:53:31am

Payrolls plunge 598,000, the most since 1974

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - The fury of the recession intensified in January, as the unemployment rate jumped to 7.6% while nonfarm payrolls fell by the largest amount in 34 years, the Labor Department reported Friday.
Nonfarm payrolls fell by a seasonally adjusted 598,000 in January after a revised loss of 577,000 in December, the government said. It's the largest payroll loss since December 1974, according to a survey of workplaces. Payrolls fell by 597,000 in November.
"Job losses were large and widespread across the major industry sectors," said Keith Hall, head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Manufacturing saw its largest decline in 26 years.
About 3.6 million jobs have been lost since the recession began just over a year ago; about half of them have been lost in the past three months following the collapse of Lehman Bros.
Total hours worked in the economy fell by 0.7% in January and were down 4.6% from a year earlier.

I think we may see a down day in the market. This should be priced in already, but there will be some further short selling, plus some more selling by those getting scared of/by the Messiah.

474 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:54:08am
475 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:54:10am

re: #469 Rustler

It's an abortion story gone horribly wrong.

476 Stonemason  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:54:48am

Hit and run...


Based on a thread earlier in the week, the show Rescue Me is going to air an episode that is sympathetic to troofers of the 911 sort. If this bothers you, here is a link to a list of sponsors...I will not list them here per blog rules. (they include phone numbers)

Have a great day all.

477 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:55:04am

re: #464 3 wood


Have you heard a word about Obama's ignoring Kentucky with the ice storm?

Great point. I hadn't even thought of it, I guess that is because there is not much coverage of the ice storm.

478 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:56:44am

In the interest of balance, I offer this feel good video.

As one commenter put it:

Amazing, considering liberals would have wanted him aborted…I mean what use is he?
479 Stonemason  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:58:54am

re: #476 Stonemason

Hit and run...

Based on a thread earlier in the week, the show Rescue Me is going to air an episode that is sympathetic to troofers of the 911 sort. If this bothers you, here is a link to a list of sponsors...I will not list them here per blog rules. (they include phone numbers)

Have a great day all.

It would help to post the link....

480 freetoken  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:07:21am

re: #473 3 wood

Employment Situation Summary

There are some measuring methodological issues already being raised about this Jan's numbers. However, no one doubts that it is not a cheerful set of numbers.

481 lincolntf  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:07:53am

re: #479 Stonemason

I have to assume that 9/11 conspiracy theorists are going to become the "Sasquatch hunters" of the 21st Century. I say put them on all the TV shows that want 'em and let everyone laugh at their stupidity.

By the way, of all the whackjobs that Obama pals around with (and who will no doubt find their way into his Admin. at some level) does anyone know if any of them are "Truthers"?

482 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:09:57am

One-third Russian fighter jets old and unsafe: report

MOSCOW (Reuters) – About one-third of all Russian fighter jets should be written off as obsolete because they are unable to fly, the Kommersant business daily reported on Friday, quoting defense ministry and military officials.

Russia grounded all of its MiG-29 fighter jets last December after two of the aircraft crashed near the same airfield in eastern Siberia in just as many months. One pilot died.

Flights of MiG-29s have resumed since then, but hundreds are simply too old even to take off, Kommersant said.

"Russia's Defense Ministry for the first time recognized that around 200 of its MiG-29s are not just unable to cope with their combat tasks, but simply cannot take off," the paper said.

The report could hit Russia's reputation as a leading arms exporter and undermine Kremlin attempts to project Russia as a revived military power.

483 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:10:12am

Report: Turkey's AKP party posts article denying Holocaust on website
Published: 02.06.09, 15:07 / Israel News
At article denying the Holocaust was posted on Turkey's ruling party's website, Ankara's Radikal Gazetesi newspaper reported Friday.

According to the report, the AKP website titled the article "Palestine - The promised land" and said that since some of Adolf Hitler's aides were Jewish, the claims of mass murder of Jews were inconsistent with historical fact. (Ynet)

It's long since past the time for Israel to reevaluate it's relationship with Turkey. Unless of course the Turkish Military decides to do something, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

484 filetandrelease  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:10:30am

Obamaster gets his way in stopping all the terrorist trials. In further news, a skittle down pour erupted in Guantanamo yesterday afternoon.

485 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:10:37am

re: #477 jester6

Great point. I hadn't even thought of it, I guess that is because there is not much coverage of the ice storm.

If Bush were still President, the MSM would be doing on location reports and Geraldo would be standing on a street corner screaming about why the Fed's don't help more.

But with a Dem in the White House?

Crickets.

486 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:11:04am

re: #482 NJDhockeyfan

Crying shame?

487 godfrey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:11:29am

re: #474 reine.de.tout

It's not "pertinent" if it's not what the O wants you to hear. Did you see Helen Thomas (Lead Reporter, Pravda) glowering at him? She is such an easy target, I'm starting to feel sorry for her.

488 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:13:04am

re: #480 freetoken

There are some measuring methodological issues already being raised about this Jan's numbers. However, no one doubts that it is not a cheerful set of numbers.

Yep.

By the way, the stock futures are rising.

You want to know why?


Get ready for it...Cause of speculation that the bad employment numbers will force Congress to approve the spending bill...

489 UFO TOFU  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:15:16am
490 summergurl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:15:44am

re: #470 reine.de.tout

I tell you - if Reid really said that polls should be outlawed - what he is advocating, there, basically, is that the public be kept in the dark.

Can you imagine? An official of our government saying that the public should be kept unaware of what is going on.

Isn't that what the Fairness Doctrine really is? I way to stifle the airing of conservative views? Air America bombed so now they want to force us to listen to them, which folks won't, instead people will tune out and the demise of talk radio will occur.

Another way to keep the general public uninformed so that government can do what's "best" for us... trult becoming a nanny state IMO

491 ciaospirit  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:15:46am

This is all thanks to George W. Bush. But does anyone remember the U.N. praising the progress in Iraq while Bush was in office? Or a headline like this from the MSM?
Visiting UN chief praises Iraqi progress

BAGHDAD – The U.N. secretary-general said Friday that provincial elections were an important step toward full democracy but told Iraqis they still have work to do before they can enjoy "genuine freedom and security and prosperity."

Ban Ki-moon made his second visit to Iraq as United Nations chief a day after official preliminary results showed Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's allies swept to victory in the vote for powerful local councils, an endorsement of his crackdown on extremism and violence.

"I believe that you have come such a long way, but still you have to go a far way to say that you will fully be able to enjoy genuine freedom and security and prosperity," he said during a meeting in Baghdad with President Jalal Talabani.

Why do I have to do without while my tax dollars fund these hypocritical morons?

492 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:16:28am

re: #485 3 wood

If Bush were still President, the MSM would be doing on location reports and Geraldo would be standing on a street corner screaming about why the Fed's don't help more.

But with a Dem in the White House?

Crickets.

No, the KY Governor is a Dem. He will keep quiet.

493 bloodnok  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:17:12am

re: #491 ciaospirit

This is all thanks to George W. Bush. But does anyone remember the U.N. praising the progress in Iraq while Bush was in office? Or a headline like this from the MSM?
Visiting UN chief praises Iraqi progress


Why do I have to do without while my tax dollars fund these hypocritical morons?

Never. It has been decided for us that we are living in happier times. Good news is now permitted.

494 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:17:14am

Stimulus update: One person gets it.

495 ciaospirit  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:17:32am

re: #485 3 wood

If Bush were still President, the MSM would be doing on location reports and Geraldo would be standing on a street corner screaming about why the Fed's don't help more.

With fake icicles hanging from his chin.

496 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:18:21am

Good Friday morning all.

497 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:18:27am

re: #494 FrogMarch

Stimulus update: One person gets it.

haha VodkaPundit

498 summergurl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:18:42am

re: #495 ciaospirit

With fake icicles hanging from his chinmoustache.

499 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:18:46am

PETA's Mideast peace plan: 'Give Peas a Chance'

JERUSALEM – A leading animal advocacy group said the road to Mideast peace begins in a pita. The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has requested Israel's permission to post pro-vegetarian signs on both sides of its barriers with the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.

PETA's signs are in Hebrew and in English. They feature Israelis and Palestinians sitting down for a meat-free meal along with the slogans: "Give Peas a Chance," and "Nonviolence Begins on Our Plates: Go Vegetarian."

"Every time that we eat, we can choose not to participate in violence," PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk wrote Wednesday in a letter. "While choosing a falafel sandwich over a lamb kebab doesn't create instant peace, it reduces the sum total of violence and suffering in the world."

LOL

500 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:18:55am

[Link: townhall.com...]

another zinger from CK...

501 MJ  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:19:12am

New York Post photographer was prevented from taking pictures of the demonstration by "pro-Gaza" protestors.

[Link: vigilantsquirrelbrigade.blogspot.com...]


via Diana West:
[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

502 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:19:16am

re: #487 godfrey

It's not "pertinent" if it's not what the O wants you to hear. Did you see Helen Thomas (Lead Reporter, Pravda) glowering at him? She is such an easy target, I'm starting to feel sorry for her.

Not me. She's getting what she deserves. Put her in a home already.

503 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:19:20am

I should change my name to BongPundit

504 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:20:18am

re: #499 NJDhockeyfan

PETA's Mideast peace plan: 'Give Peas a Chance'

LOL

Let them do one of their naked protests in Gaza.

/can you say stoning?

505 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:21:13am

re: #455 Nevergiveup

I hope all the kids are adopted. There are too many weird things about this story.

506 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:22:17am

Good morning y'all - from a freezing (23 degrees, going up to 53 degrees!) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

507 VioletTiger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:24:30am

re: #506 realwest

Morning', how are you feeling?

508 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:24:45am

Army deserter deported from Canada, now in U.S. jail

[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]

Why is Gitmo full?

509 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:24:47am

Holy lizard shit!

LONDON – A British university has apologized to a Ph.D. student for throwing away his treasured, seven-year collection of lizard dung.

Daniel Bennett has told Times Higher Education magazine that he had collected the dung in the Philippines while studying the rare butaan lizard, a relative of the Komodo dragon. The material was to be studied as part of his doctoral research.

Bennett says the 77-pound (35-kilogram) bag was thrown away by cleaners at his lab at Leeds University in northern England. He says the dung represented seven years' worth of field work, and its loss "left me reeling."

The university said Friday it had apologized.

Bennett says he rejected the university's compensation offer of 500 pounds ($750) and will "see them in court."

What is the fair value of lizard shit in today's economic times?

510 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:24:56am

another day in the life of the Magical Mystery Tour...what sureal event will happen next?...BO the high priest of political sleight of mind...

511 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:25:42am

re: #507 VioletTiger
Good morning! I'm doing ok thank you kindly, how about yourself - how are you doing?

512 ciaospirit  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:26:38am

re: #505 WriterMom

I hope all the kids are adopted. There are too many weird things about this story.

Can't wait for the movie. ///

Furtney said Suleman is "feeling great" and looking forward to being reunited with her octuplets, who are expected to remain in the hospital for several more weeks.

"She's happy to be out of the hospital, although she misses her children," he said. "She can't wait until they join her."

Joann Killeen, Furtney’s partner, told TODAY earlier this week that her client is being deluged with offers for book deals, TV shows and other business proposals, but has not decided what she might do other than care for her children, her newly hired spokeswoman said Monday.

513 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:28:43am

Great, AQ Khan is now free. Bombs away.

514 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:29:39am

re: #506 realwest

Check your email please. I have some good news for you.

515 VioletTiger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:30:38am

re: #511 realwest

Too early to tell, real, but the weekend in near.

516 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:31:12am

re: #513 faraway
Good morning faraway! Uh, y'all do know that Charles doesn't want us calling for the murder of any specific individuals, doncha?!
/heavy.

517 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:31:22am

Mayor Richard Daley said today Chicago has compiled a wish list of "shovel-ready projects" to spend federal economic stimulus funds on should Congress approve a plan.

Unlike hundreds of other cities, however, Daley said Chicago won't make its list public.

518 rain of lead  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:31:40am

morning lizards,
we are now 14 months into the new solar cycle and the sun is showing no signs of increased activity.
so without further delay...
todays gorebull warming update
sunspots are at zero and solar wind output is a pathetic 296 km/s

519 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:31:53am

re: #514 3 wood
Good morning 3 wood - I'll check right now!
BBIAM!

520 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:32:14am

re: #516 realwest

Good morning faraway! Uh, y'all do know that Charles doesn't want us calling for the murder of any specific individuals, doncha?!
/heavy.

I was thinking he would be doing the bombing. Thanks though.

521 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:32:22am

re: #516 realwest

Good morning faraway! Uh, y'all do know that Charles doesn't want us calling for the murder of any specific individuals, doncha?!
/heavy.

Actually I think faraway means the bombs are now gonna start falling on us!

522 MandyManners  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:32:25am

Ooh ooh ooh.

Have a great morning, Lizards!

523 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:33:00am

re: #506 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a freezing (23 degrees, going up to 53 degrees!) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Morning Real!

23 degrees here, too, going up to the mid-40's they say.

Had an unusual episode with one of my older dogs today, some sort of seizure, the back legs stopped working. She freaked out. A couple of hours later, she seems pretty normal, the back legs went through a functional but out of control stage, then "walking like a drunk", till now when she seems quite normal.

Very odd. We'll be keeping an eye on her, she's 12.

524 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:33:11am

re: #517 faraway

Mayor Richard Daley said today Chicago has compiled a wish list of "shovel-ready projects" to spend federal economic stimulus funds on should Congress approve a plan.

Unlike hundreds of other cities, however, Daley said Chicago won't make its list public.

That is the Chicago Way.

And the media will not so much as miss a bite of their lunch to ask him about it.

525 tjseagrove  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:33:39am

I live in upsate New York and Al Gore promised me a tropical paradise up here...well, I am still waiting.

526 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:34:14am

re: #524 3 wood

We did not put that out publicly because once you start putting it out publicly, you know, the newspapers, the media is going to be ripping it apart," Daley said.

527 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:34:17am

Yep, markets up on the bad employment news.

Now I have seen it all.

528 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:34:25am
529 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:34:35am

re: #523 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning Real!

23 degrees here, too, going up to the mid-40's they say.

Had an unusual episode with one of my older dogs today, some sort of seizure, the back legs stopped working. She freaked out. A couple of hours later, she seems pretty normal, the back legs went through a functional but out of control stage, then "walking like a drunk", till now when she seems quite normal.

Very odd. We'll be keeping an eye on her, she's 12.

stroke..my 22 year old barn cat did the exact same thing...look into eyes and see if they are symmetrical

530 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:35:53am

re: #523 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning Real!

23 degrees here, too, going up to the mid-40's they say.

Had an unusual episode with one of my older dogs today, some sort of seizure, the back legs stopped working. She freaked out. A couple of hours later, she seems pretty normal, the back legs went through a functional but out of control stage, then "walking like a drunk", till now when she seems quite normal.

Very odd. We'll be keeping an eye on her, she's 12.

Vet - my dog has the occasional seizure. Our veterinarian told us if it's not frequent and if the seizure poses no threat to himself or us, then it's just something to keep an eye on. Talk to your vet.

531 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:36:34am

re: #526 faraway

We did not put that out publicly because once you start putting it out publicly, you know, the newspapers, the media is going to be ripping it apart," Daley said.

Yep.

Never mind that it is public money, and any self respecting MSM (I know, I know, false assumption there) should immediately be filing FOI's on this cause it does not qualify for protected status (I know FOI law inside and out).

But they won't.

532 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:36:35am

re: #412 MandyManners

When I am Empress of the Universe, the entire month of February will be banished.

Would you settle in the meantime for Princess of Power and November 4/08?

533 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:36:37am

re: #529 albusteve

stroke..my 22 year old barn cat did the exact same thing...look into eyes and see if they are symmetrical

Checked... look OK to my untrained eyes.

Stroke is probably it. Must be pretty minor, since she seems to have recovered so fast.

534 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:37:29am

re: #530 reine.de.tout

Vet - my dog has the occasional seizure. Our veterinarian told us if it's not frequent and if the seizure poses no threat to himself or us, then it's just something to keep an eye on. Talk to your vet.

Yes, we called already this morning... they said to keep an eye on her, and are open Saturday if we need to bring her in.

535 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:37:36am

re: #412 MandyManners

When I am Empress of the Universe, the entire month of February will be banished.

Mandy - I like that idea.
It means I would have no more birthdays!

536 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:37:36am

re: #512 ciaospirit

* S P E W *

537 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:37:41am

A mysterious, maple syrup-like odour that has periodically wafted over New York City since October 2005 has been linked to New Jersey fragrance processing plants, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on Thursday.

538 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:38:07am

U.S. image picks up, China and Russia worsen: poll

LONDON (Reuters) - The image of the United States around the world has improved in the past year while China and Russia's standing in other countries has slipped, according to an opinion poll published on Friday.

However, the public's view of the United States remains mainly negative, despite the election of President Barack Obama, the global poll for the BBC World Service found.

539 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:38:38am

re: #533 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Checked... look OK to my untrained eyes.

Stroke is probably it. Must be pretty minor, since she seems to have recovered so fast.

excellent news...my poor little cat recovered after awhile and live another year

540 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:39:13am

re: #467 reine.de.tout

Did you guys hear the audio clip of Obama saying 'thanks for electing me and giving me the opportunity to use Air Force One'? What a juvenile idiot. I swear he is one of the most immature politicians I have EVAH seen. SUCH. A. DORK.

541 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:39:19am

re: #538 NJDhockeyfan

U.S. image picks up, China and Russia worsen: poll

Well, thank goodness our image is better.

/I'll tell that to my kids when they are slaving in the salt mines to pay their 85% income taxes as filthy white people.

542 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:39:58am

re: #252 Render

Oooh, nice new avitar.

543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:41:33am

re: #540 WriterMom

Did you guys hear the audio clip of Obama saying 'thanks for electing me and giving me the opportunity to use Air Force One'? What a juvenile idiot. I swear he is one of the most immature politicians I have EVAH seen. SUCH. A. DORK.

Yup. He used this event at Williamsburg as an excuse to fire up Air Force one and fly there from Andrews. I don't know where he landed exactly, but the direct line distance between the two places is about 150 miles.

What does it cost to do the Air Force 1 dance for a 30 min hop?

544 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:41:47am

re: #173 iLikeCandy

Pretty disgusting. I hope your comment gets deleted.

545 VioletTiger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:41:58am

re: #539 albusteve

excellent news...my poor little cat recovered after awhile and live another year


Wow, 23 years is amazing for a cat. Must have been a happy kitty.

546 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:42:22am

re: #543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yes, it was a 37 minute flight to a 5 Star conference of Democrats. HELLLO! HOPE! CHANGE!

547 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:42:38am

A California agency says it paid the mother of newborn octuplets more than $165,000 in disability payments for an on-the-job back injury. The payments made over six years to Nadya Suleman were disclosed Thursday to The Associated Press following a public records request to the Department of Mental Health. The payments were made between 2002 and 2008, during which time the single mother gave birth to most of her six other children.

Suleman, who gave birth to the octuplets last week, was employed at a state mental health hospital from 1997 until December, when she resigned the position. Records show that for much of that time, however, she was unable to work.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Now she burdens the healthcare system with octuplets.

Is this some new Iranian offensive?

548 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:43:13am

re: #544 WriterMom

Pretty disgusting. I hope your comment gets deleted.

No kidding... not LGF worthy. Not even close.

549 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:43:26am

re: #540 WriterMom

Did you guys hear the audio clip of Obama saying 'thanks for electing me and giving me the opportunity to use Air Force One'? What a juvenile idiot. I swear he is one of the most immature politicians I have EVAH seen. SUCH. A. DORK.

He and Michelle fist-bump every time they get on board./

550 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:44:27am

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

BO the genius is arrogant, partisan and stuck on stupid

551 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:45:04am

re: #519 realwest
Hey my friend, received and replied to and THANK YOU and Thanks to our friend as well!

552 yochanan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:45:14am

he was a moon bat on some of the other issues of the day though did not tell a troother to go to hell

553 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:45:26am

re: #547 faraway

A California agency says it paid the mother of newborn octuplets more than $165,000 in disability payments for an on-the-job back injury. The payments made over six years to Nadya Suleman were disclosed Thursday to The Associated Press following a public records request to the Department of Mental Health. The payments were made between 2002 and 2008, during which time the single mother gave birth to most of her six other children.

Suleman, who gave birth to the octuplets last week, was employed at a state mental health hospital from 1997 until December, when she resigned the position. Records show that for much of that time, however, she was unable to work.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Now she burdens the healthcare system with octuplets.

Is this some new Iranian offensive?

They have a shortfall of cash, so maybe they're trying to squeeze it out of the US Healthcare system.

Iran looks into missing $1B in oil money

Tehran's National Audit Office finds considerable funds missing from Treasury. Tehran parliament demands official inquiry; aide to President Ahmadinejad says case a 'misunderstanding'

554 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:45:44am

re: #545 VioletTiger

Wow, 23 years is amazing for a cat. Must have been a happy kitty.

tough little old barn cat...I will never forget her

555 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:45:49am

re: #546 WriterMom

Yes, it was a 37 minute flight to a 5 Star conference of Democrats. HELLLO! HOPE! CHANGE!

But don't forget if we don't pass Porkzilla in the next, oh, 15 minutes, the sky will fall and we will have a depression as terrible as 1982...

Power... it's all about the power... get in line proles and pay for the privilege of watching the Lightworker in action.

556 VioletTiger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:45:56am

re: #543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yup. He used this event at Williamsburg as an excuse to fire up Air Force one and fly there from Andrews. I don't know where he landed exactly, but the direct line distance between the two places is about 150 miles.

What does it cost to do the Air Force 1 dance for a 30 min hop?


Isn't that ridiculous? Taking Airforce 1 out for a joy ride? I still can't believe this juvenile is our president.

557 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:46:13am

The way I see it;
Dems think Bush used the events of 9-1-1 to forward his political popularity. He got to spend all that money on the war,and got re-elected in 2004.
Now they think it's their turn. A recessed economy gives them the chance to cry crisis,and spend money to address it.
They view the threat of radical Islam as nothing more than a political football. Just as they view the stimulus package.
Sadly,I fear the reality of what they view as a political issue will be revisited on a large scale.
And their treatment of the economy as a political tool,could leave us in a deteriorated state to deal with the aftermath of a catastrophic event.

558 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:46:26am

re: #520 faraway
Yea, I know that, I just thought you'd appreciate my attempt at humor - ya know, bomb him!
Sorry.

559 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:46:35am

Good morning everyone! Another beautiful day full of hope and change!

Say, anyone else have a Unicorn with a bottomless pit for a stomach?

560 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:47:30am

I wonder how our troops feel about their assshole of a Commander in Chief...

If he is not the most condescending, arrogant, self righteous sonofabitch who has ever occupied that office...

We rushed into the first bill, creating the TARP... It was a disaster. We rushed into bailout out Detroit... Disaster as they will be back soon...

This bill is a complete disaster. It will bring about Socialism. We are headed there... And some of our 'own' will be complicit...

We're in deep, deep shit...

561 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:47:46am

Hallooo...

Can I do the Friday dance?

[swings arms, hums "TGIF" under her breath]

562 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:47:58am

re: #554 albusteve

tough little old barn cat...I will never forget her

My wife's folks had one that lived that long... cantankerous bastard.

My father-in-law (RIP) hated cats... and woke up one day to the realization that "that damn cat has been with me for a third of my life!"

563 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:48:19am

re: #523 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT - geez, I'm sorry to hear that. What breed of dog? Are you taking her to the vet I hope?

564 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:48:20am

re: #537 faraway

A mysterious, maple syrup-like odour that has periodically wafted over New York City since October 2005 has been linked to New Jersey fragrance processing plants, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on Thursday.

And I suspected it was just Obama putting syrup on his waffle.

565 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:49:47am

Romney: the Obama spending bill would stimulate the government, not the economy.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

566 average_guy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:50:09am

What Barry is doing is the same thing that FDR did in response to an actual economic depression. FDR’s response prolonged the depression and made it more severe as well. Barry knows this and this is why he keeps telling us that it will get worse before it gets better; his plan is tried and true to make it worse before it gets better. The whole point is that as it gets worse it will provide a series of crises by which the government can gain more control over the citizens. Its a plan to make the government bigger which uses as its method instilling fear into the populace to such a degree that they will voluntarily turn over their freedoms to the government. The goal is to leave us as a socialist/communist state where no individual has enough freedom to help themselves, ergo leaving us all dependent on the government. The mainstream press/media has already given over this control voluntarily and most of the Dem majority are in lockstep, so at this point it is a runaway train going downhill. Look for continued usurpation of the US Constitution and imposition of UN standards and International Law to continue to happen as well. They will try to impose as much as possible as quickly as possible. It won’t be hard to see if you look.

It will be going on while we all argue about Evolution versus Intelligent Design.

Barry and his mates will play Devo with our country and our world while we bite each other.

567 godfrey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:50:16am

re: #565 faraway

Good for Romney for getting that out there.

568 kreon  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:50:19am

Recently I was watching a political TV show on a Russian channel. A guest political analyst stated that he recently met with his Syrian Hamas friends and talked with them about the conflict with Israel. He says Hamas states that the media reporting was completely untrue. Hamas destroyed at a minimum 500 Israeli tanks and took many soldiers captive. The political analyst asked them why they do not demand trading those captives for something, and Hamas friends said that unfortunatelly all the captives were killed during Israeli bombings.
The political analyst conveyed all this bull shit to the whole country of Russia as true facts.

In other news Russia committed $2 billion to Kyrgys state, and Kyrgys gov now is closing the US base on its territory - one of the closest to Afganistan. Russia is a sneaky and very moderate Iran now.

569 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:50:27am

re: #562 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

My wife's folks had one that lived that long... cantankerous bastard.

My father-in-law (RIP) hated cats... and woke up one day to the realization that "that damn cat has been with me for a third of my life!"

I love cats...independent...I love watching them jump and climb and stalk etc

570 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:50:39am

re: #564 n in wi

And I suspected it was just Obama putting syrup on his waffle.

You know, I kinda like waffles... I HOPE this won't CHANGE how I feel about them!

571 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:51:34am

re: #563 realwest

Hey LT - geez, I'm sorry to hear that. What breed of dog? Are you taking her to the vet I hope?

She's a mutt, straight from the pound, terrier and "others". The vet told us to keep an eye on her and see what happens.

The other two we have (an American Eskimo, also in the 10-12 year range) and the Border Collie pup (now 10 months) are doing a decent job of leaving her alone.

572 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:51:55am

re: #567 godfrey

Good for Romney for getting that out there.

Romney is the man who should be in charge during this crisis...

573 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:52:13am

re: #556 VioletTiger

Here is the transcript:

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Thank you, Democrats. (Applause.) Thank you. Please, everybody have a seat. Everybody have a seat. It is great to be here with so many friends. Thank you for giving me a reason to use Air Force One. (Laughter.) It's pretty nice. (Laughter.)
I'm glad to see the House Democratic Caucus is getting by just fine without my Chief of Staff. (Laughter.) I don't know how many of you were at the Alfalfa dinner, but I pointed out, you know, this whole myth of Rahm being this tough guy, mean, is just not true. At least once a week he spends time teaching profanity to underprivileged children. (Laughter and applause.) So he's got a soft spot.

With gratiutous swipe at Palin:

Over the last two years, I visited almost all 50 states. I've got to admit, the one I missed was Alaska. (Laughter.)

574 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:52:41am

re: #558 realwest

Yea, I know that, I just thought you'd appreciate my attempt at humor - ya know, bomb him!
Sorry.

I am a little touchy on that topic. I said something the other day that sounded like I wanted someone killed when I was trying to make a joke about protesting.

You are the bomb :)

575 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:52:43am

re: #543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yup. He used this event at Williamsburg as an excuse to fire up Air Force one and fly there from Andrews. I don't know where he landed exactly, but the direct line distance between the two places is about 150 miles.

What does it cost to do the Air Force 1 dance for a 30 min hop?

Probably more than most of us make in a year

576 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:52:52am

re: #565 faraway

Romney: the Obama spending bill would stimulate the government, not the economy.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I wish he would directly challenge BO on national TV...offer to debate him...BO has yet to explain himself and all voters should be outraged at his arrogance

577 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:53:13am

re: #575 Nevergiveup

Read the transcript I just posted ^ ^ ^.

578 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:53:28am

Knowing that many Lizards are animal lovers as well, may I ask that you keep my dog, Conan, in your thoughts? My husband and I rescued him almost 12 years ago, nursed him back to health, and have enjoyed his sweet, intelligent companionship all these years. As he approaches the age of 16, he's finding it more and more difficullt to eat and to do anything but sleep and snuggle. We have a vet's appointment tomorrow to discuss options. I fear there is only one, as neither my husband nor I could bear to see him waste away slowly and painfully. He's been such a fine dog, the most amazingly smart and affectionate animal I've ever known, and deserves the best we can give him. Please pray that we will do that for him, whatever the best might be.

Thank you.

579 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:53:54am
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Thank you, Democrats. (Applause.) Thank you. Please, everybody have a seat. Everybody have a seat. It is great to be here with so many friends. Thank you for giving me a reason to use Air Force One. (Laughter.) It's pretty nice. (Laughter.)
I'm glad to see the House Democratic Caucus is getting by just fine without my Chief of Staff. (Laughter.) I don't know how many of you were at the Alfalfa dinner, but I pointed out, you know, this whole myth of Rahm being this tough guy, mean, is just not true. At least once a week he spends time teaching profanity to underprivileged children. (Laughter and applause.) So he's got a soft spot.

That's his idea of a joke?!?!?

[slaps forehead]

580 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:54:08am

re: #572 tfc3rid

Romney is the man who should be in charge during this crisis...

There wouldn't be a "crisis" if the government and MSM wasn't running around like a chicken with its head chopped off.

581 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:54:42am

re: #543 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)"What does it cost to do the Air Force 1 dance for a 30 min hop?"
A helluva lot less than Marine I, I can assure you of that!

582 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:55:03am

re: #578 scottishbuzzsaw

Knowing that many Lizards are animal lovers as well, may I ask that you keep my dog, Conan, in your thoughts? My husband and I rescued him almost 12 years ago, nursed him back to health, and have enjoyed his sweet, intelligent companionship all these years. As he approaches the age of 16, he's finding it more and more difficullt to eat and to do anything but sleep and snuggle. We have a vet's appointment tomorrow to discuss options. I fear there is only one, as neither my husband nor I could bear to see him waste away slowly and painfully. He's been such a fine dog, the most amazingly smart and affectionate animal I've ever known, and deserves the best we can give him. Please pray that we will do that for him, whatever the best might be.

Thank you.

Happily will I raise a prayer for you three.

{scottishbuzzsaw}

583 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:55:23am

re: #578 scottishbuzzsaw

Knowing that many Lizards are animal lovers as well, may I ask that you keep my dog, Conan, in your thoughts? My husband and I rescued him almost 12 years ago, nursed him back to health, and have enjoyed his sweet, intelligent companionship all these years. As he approaches the age of 16, he's finding it more and more difficullt to eat and to do anything but sleep and snuggle. We have a vet's appointment tomorrow to discuss options. I fear there is only one, as neither my husband nor I could bear to see him waste away slowly and painfully. He's been such a fine dog, the most amazingly smart and affectionate animal I've ever known, and deserves the best we can give him. Please pray that we will do that for him, whatever the best might be.

Thank you.

Will do, I'm having a dog issue at the moment, too.

How are you otherwise, I asked earlier this morning if anybody had seen you around... nothing bad I hope.

584 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:55:41am

re: #579 vxbush

HAHAHAHA. Yes, your President is A JOKE.

/runs for the hills, stocks water and Froot Loops

585 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:55:41am

re: #573 WriterMom

Here is the transcript:

he's such a immature jerk...it was disgraceful the way he spoke last night. he's still campaigning... "this is not a game..." that's all this is to him. a game. he doesn't like being president, he just liked the competition of the campaign.

586 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:56:24am

re: #540 WriterMom

Did you guys hear the audio clip of Obama saying 'thanks for electing me and giving me the opportunity to use Air Force One'? What a juvenile idiot. I swear he is one of the most immature politicians I have EVAH seen. SUCH. A. DORK.

my neighbor's 12 yr. old son is more responsible and has so much more social awareness than our dork potus.
i wonder when they will muzzle him?

587 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:56:41am

re: #571 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

She's a mutt, straight from the pound,

That's the best kind. The most loyal dog I've ever seen is a stray that started hanging around and eventually let me feed her. She would take a hot dog from my hand but wouldn't let me touch her for about 9 months. Now she's got a home!

Daddy calls her a "took up dog" (As in she just took up with us). She's a real sweetheart. :)

588 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:56:43am

re: #578 scottishbuzzsaw

{scottishbuzzsaw} I know how hard that can be.

589 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:56:51am

re: #585 phoenixgirl

he's such a immature jerk...it was disgraceful the way he spoke last night. he's still campaigning... "this is not a game..." that's all this is to him. a game. he doesn't like being president, he just liked the competition of the campaign.

Comrade, comrade. Do not despair. Our Dear Leader will pay your mortgage soon.

590 Perplexed  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:57:03am

Harry Reid says that paying taxes is voluntary.
Nancy Pelosi says we're losing 500,000,000 jobs a month.
Obama says we have 57 states.
Another dim dem wants to build 6 civilian relocation camps and has a bill in progress to do just that.
920,000,000,000 dollars in long term pork projects that won't even get off the ground before 2010 as part of the stimulus package.

WTF? Have all of the adults left and now the children are running things?

591 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:57:31am

re: #579 vxbush

That's his idea of a joke?!?!?

[slaps forehead]

yes. and the jokes on us... and it's expensive

592 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:57:50am

POTUS PORKUS

593 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:58:03am

re: #578 scottishbuzzsaw

From the sound of it, he's had a great life so far with you, and whatever you choose, I'm sure you'll do what's best for him.

594 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:58:17am

re: #581 realwest

"What does it cost to do the Air Force 1 dance for a 30 min hop?"
A helluva lot less than Marine I, I can assure you of that!

No kidding. Right aircraft for the frigging mission.

And AF1 is not a "take 'er out for a spin" type of operation... it requires service aircraft, movement of advance teams, vast amounts of security, an entire dog and pony show.

...all so Barry could play with his cool new toys.

/I cannot believe the Left accepts this buffoon, but excoriated GWB as a drooling idiot.

595 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:59:23am

Morning, all.
I was going to post in the links, but no.
Several hundred in the comments at Politico are calling for revolution.
Threads which will be logged by the Hopenchange Brigade.
I can see net-anonymity being challenged, in fact I think it is inevitable.
There's a lotta talk online about guns, the 2nd amendment, revolution, civil war...some of it, no doubt, by folks who are true, and MUCH of it, if we can go by the recent past behavior of the netroots-fascists/lulz-seekers/Moby-obeyers/RonPaul deceivers, much of this talk is the left being Moby.

Gun threads here, threads such as that to which I linked at the Politico, are going to be ammo. We'll have real-life Mobys too, I'll wager. Someone will act in a way which causes the public to demand (after much media manipulation and flame-fanning) that the Federal Government do something about these crazy internet people.

I can't really envision this train stopping by any human means. Way too fast, too much momentum. "The fireman screams, while the engine just gleams..."

bright, cheery day!
-Taq

596 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:59:24am

everyone get under the bus please, it will be easier if you get under the bus and let us drive over you...

597 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:59:38am

The Pope has ordered the Williamson to recant his Holocaust denial statements. But the media still keeps referring to this guy as a bishop.

At one time he was a priest. But when he got himself appointed imaginary bishop was excommunicated and defrocked. With the excommunication rescinded he is nothing more than a layperson.

I am not a very religious person but this whole thing is being trumped up to make the Catholic church look bad.

[Link: in.reuters.com...]

598 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:59:40am

re: #585 phoenixgirl

he's such a immature jerk...it was disgraceful the way he spoke last night. he's still campaigning... "this is not a game..." that's all this is to him. a game. he doesn't like being president, he just liked the competition of the campaign.

And now he's got the big letdown you sometimes feel after an important event. It's over, he won, so now what?

In it to win it? Ok, you won it, Obambi. What NOW?

599 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:00:28am

re: #544 WriterMom
Hi WriterMom - I agree with you about this. How is it that so many juevenile posters seem to be showing up all of a sudden?

600 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:00:29am

re: #590 Perplexed

Harry Reid says that paying taxes is voluntary.
Nancy Pelosi says we're losing 500,000,000 jobs a month.
Obama says we have 57 states.
Another dim dem wants to build 6 civilian relocation camps and has a bill in progress to do just that.
920,000,000,000 dollars in long term pork projects that won't even get off the ground before 2010 as part of the stimulus package.

WTF? Have all of the adults left and now the children are running things?

Yes.

Besides, in Barry math, the 920,000,000,000 is ok, hell it isn't quite a thousand dollars... what's the big deal?

601 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:00:32am

re: #540 WriterMom

Did you guys hear the audio clip of Obama saying 'thanks for electing me and giving me the opportunity to use Air Force One'? What a juvenile idiot. I swear he is one of the most immature politicians I have EVAH seen. SUCH. A. DORK.

Yes, a juvenile idiot, you're spot on with that.

And if I heard correctly, "Hail to the Chief" is not played when customary.

I do not get it, how quickly he has come to office and tried to turn things upside down.
UNFIT.

602 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:00:34am

re: #598 SteveC

And now he's got the big letdown you sometimes feel after an important event. It's over, he won, so now what?

In it to win it? Ok, you won it, Obambi. What NOW?

Post ObamaGasm

603 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:00:46am

re: #598 SteveC

And now he's got the big letdown you sometimes feel after an important event. It's over, he won, so now what?

In it to win it? Ok, you won it, Obambi. What NOW?

Maybe he should just go to Disney World and stay there

604 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:00:54am

re: #591 phoenixgirl

yes. and the jokes on us... and it's expensive

everyday I look for an explanation for this bill and so far I've not NO ONE with the guts to defend it on merit...all salesmanship and threats...no donk will talk about the fucking BILL!

605 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:01:07am

re: #579 vxbush

That's his idea of a joke?!?!?

[slaps forehead]

Maybe not the kind of thing POTUS should be joking about but it is kind of funny if you are into dry humor.

606 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:01:07am

Forgot the link, sorry:
Revolution! Says a few hundered commenters at Politico.

607 Canoe Train  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:01:13am

re: #585 phoenixgirl

Have to agree with PhoenixGirl, here. It's like the dog who, once he caught the car, had no idea what he was going to do with it. He is a neophyte, and it wil haunt us all. He got into office because of the cache of voting for "the first one," and Obama has no more legislative or executive experience than I do. That is saying a large amount.

608 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:01:57am

re: #578 scottishbuzzsaw

I'm sorry to hear about that, will keep you in my prayers.

We lost our German shepherd about 4 years ago, and felt we waited too long. I don't envy your decision.

609 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:02:01am

re: #602 faraway

Post ObamaGasm

Smoke 'em if ya got 'em...

610 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:03:42am

re: #584 WriterMom

HAHAHAHA. Yes, your President is A JOKE.

/runs for the hills, stocks water and Froot Loops Cheetos

Fixed.

611 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:04:04am

re: #568 kreon

The Russia economy is tanking. Putin's decision to play hardball with the west was idiotic and premature, as his military is in really bad shape, and the plans for expanding and improving it are pretty much untenable now because of the economy.

Kyrgystan may find out that the promised $2B is not so forthcoming, and will regret its decision.

612 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:04:19am

There is one good thing about all this... when Obama leaves office in 2045 (if there is still a country then), he'll do the same transition all presidents do... one minute you are the commander of the free world and the next you can't get the time of day from the White House staff.

... the look on the Lightworker's face at that moment will be priceless.

613 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:04:29am

re: #607 Canoe Train

He got into office because of the cache of voting for "the first one," and Obama has no more legislative or executive experience than I do.

614 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:04:42am

re: #578 scottishbuzzsaw
Hi {scotti} Gee I'm so sorry to hear about that and will keep your Conan in my thoughts and prayers.
Best wishes and prayers for you, too.

615 yochanan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:04:50am

re: #592 faraway

POTUS PORKUS

adds new meaning to the term 'to be porked'

616 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:06:03am

re: #610 vxbush

Fixed.

and beer

617 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:06:14am

re: #606 Taqiyyotomist

I have a bad feeling things may not end well.

618 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:07:07am

I am trying to figure out how one survives a teen between the ages of 16-19.

Last week, young Reine was driving too fast, went around a curve, slid off the road, hit a signpost (breaking it), and destroying her front bumper and passenger side fender, along with the passenger side side-view mirror.

She was not comfortable driving without a mirror, so I've been driving her car until we can get it repaired, and she has been driving mine.

Last night a little after 6 pm - phone call - she ran through a stop sign and hit the back end of a vehicle that was going through the intersection.
Now MY car has a crumpled bumper, misplaced headlight, crumpled fender and hood and the passenger side door won't even open.

I am petrified that I will be getting a call, not from her, but from the police, saying she's been in a fatal accident.

I think I need to send her to driver's ed before she can drive again. I don't know what to do, but I can't keep her from driving forever. Any suggestions?

619 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:07:51am

re: #578 scottishbuzzsaw

Best of luck with that very difficult decision. {hugs}

620 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:07:57am

re: #605 jester6

Maybe not the kind of thing POTUS should be joking about but it is kind of funny if you are into dry humor.

Dry humor, sure. But humor that takes advantage of kids and treats them like thugs--no thanks.

621 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:08:20am

re: #579 vxbush

Is that a real quote?

622 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:08:23am

re: #616 phoenixgirl

Cheetos, beer, Froot Loops, and how about some nice pastrami on rye with mustard and a kosher dill?

623 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:08:50am

Obama's new Presidential limo arrived.

Image: hester.jpg

624 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:09:00am

re: #597 jester6

The Pope has ordered the Williamson to recant his Holocaust denial statements. But the media still keeps referring to this guy as a bishop.

At one time he was a priest. But when he got himself appointed imaginary bishop was excommunicated and defrocked. With the excommunication rescinded he is nothing more than a layperson.

I am not a very religious person but this whole thing is being trumped up to make the Catholic church look bad.

[Link: in.reuters.com...]

Probably true. One guy says the Holocaust didn't happen, and the public's mind-molders at AP, Reuters, etc. all pile on. It's a world event.

Meanwhile there are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world, most of whose "pastors", "bishops", and "cardinals" loudly and repeatedly claim that not only did the Holocaust not happen, but the Jews fabricated it, along with many more leaders who say (loudly and repeatedly) that another holocaust is coming to the Jews, which Muslims should and will perpetrate. But this is not a story.

Gotta go with the one guy in the Catholic church. He's the story.

FTMSM. And not gently.

625 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:09:10am

re: #621 FrogMarch

I posted the entire transcript up thread. Here it is again. It's real.

626 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:09:16am

re: #595 Taqiyyotomist
Fear ye not Taq, for I shall stand astride the track and with ONE HAND stop that runaway train!
.
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.
.
.
.
And for my second trick, I'll make the train disappear, too!

627 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:09:16am

re: #607 Canoe Train

He got into office because of the cache of voting for "the first one," and Obama has no more legislative or executive experience than I do.

That's what I get for trying to multitask - push the post button before I wrote out my comment!

I was on the Student Tribunal in college - only elected position I've ever held. I was "nominated" when the Resident Directors met and one of them said, "We need someone to be on the Tribunal. It's a pretty easy job, if someone violates the rules enough to warrant an expulsion, the Tribunal reviews the facts. They meet about three times a year."

Someone else said "Steve's an honest guy and everyone likes him..." so BANG! I was nominated and elected.

Can I be President?

628 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:09:31am

re: #616 phoenixgirl

and beer

Ahem. CHOCOLATE. And lots of it. I may need to --gasp-- show some restraint and save some.

629 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:09:41am

re: #594 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

No kidding. Right aircraft for the frigging mission.

And AF1 is not a "take 'er out for a spin" type of operation... it requires service aircraft, movement of advance teams, vast amounts of security, an entire dog and pony show.

...all so Barry could play with his cool new toys.

/I cannot believe the Left accepts this buffoon, but excoriated GWB as a drooling idiot.

But the kids are getting a puppy, and with just enough hope, we can change that pony to a unicorn!

630 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:09:52am

re: #611 abaleh

The Russia economy is tanking. Putin's decision to play hardball with the west was idiotic and premature, as his military is in really bad shape, and the plans for expanding and improving it are pretty much untenable now because of the economy.

Putin doesn't need a military anymore. He knows Obama will not use ours. Take us off the table and the only other nation with a credible threat is China.

Besides, Putin has a new strategic weapon - energy. He controls 25% of Europe's natural gas.

631 VioletTiger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:10:16am

re: #573 WriterMom
Oh geez. He's just embarrassing.

632 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:10:31am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

I am trying to figure out how one survives a teen between the ages of 16-19.

Last week, young Reine was driving too fast, went around a curve, slid off the road, hit a signpost (breaking it), and destroying her front bumper and passenger side fender, along with the passenger side side-view mirror.

She was not comfortable driving without a mirror, so I've been driving her car until we can get it repaired, and she has been driving mine.

Last night a little after 6 pm - phone call - she ran through a stop sign and hit the back end of a vehicle that was going through the intersection.
Now MY car has a crumpled bumper, misplaced headlight, crumpled fender and hood and the passenger side door won't even open.

I am petrified that I will be getting a call, not from her, but from the police, saying she's been in a fatal accident.

I think I need to send her to driver's ed before she can drive again. I don't know what to do, but I can't keep her from driving forever. Any suggestions?

If I can give you my personal police opinion - formulated after stopping thousands of teenagers driving recklessly - I would tell you to send her to driver's ed again. On top of that, make sure she DOES NOT use her phone while driving. (Don't know if that's an issue, but it should be turned off until she reaches her destination. The temptation is too great to pick it up or look at it while she's driving.)

And, above all, make she knows to stay below or at the speed limit at all times. Sounds like common sense, but she's a teen - they haven't developed that yet.

633 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:10:33am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

I am trying to figure out how one survives a teen between the ages of 16-19.

Last week, young Reine was driving too fast, went around a curve, slid off the road, hit a signpost (breaking it), and destroying her front bumper and passenger side fender, along with the passenger side side-view mirror.

She was not comfortable driving without a mirror, so I've been driving her car until we can get it repaired, and she has been driving mine.

Last night a little after 6 pm - phone call - she ran through a stop sign and hit the back end of a vehicle that was going through the intersection.
Now MY car has a crumpled bumper, misplaced headlight, crumpled fender and hood and the passenger side door won't even open.

I am petrified that I will be getting a call, not from her, but from the police, saying she's been in a fatal accident.

I think I need to send her to driver's ed before she can drive again. I don't know what to do, but I can't keep her from driving forever. Any suggestions?

Driver's ed sounds like a good idea. I would also suggest perhaps a week without the phone. That might cause enough distress to make her think twice.

634 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:10:54am

I have been teaching my dog some new tricks

Image: airplane-dog.jpg

635 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:11:05am

re: #621 FrogMarch

Is that a real quote?

From earlier in the thread.

636 Render  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:11:05am

re: #622 WriterMom

Like my shiny new Hebrew National armor eh? The old stuff was dented and rusty.

CHICKS
DIG
IT,
R

637 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:11:12am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

Does she have a cell phone with her? Any chance she's being distracted by calls/texts?

638 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:11:22am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

Your car, your rules. She needs serious driver's lessons. Don't buckle under to pressure. Offer to split the cost-until then NO CAR. It's for her own good.

639 J.S.  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:11:27am

My first rule: I don't believe anything terrorists (and their supporters) tell me. There's now another former Gitmo detainee (living in Britain) who's claiming, "I was tortured! Tortured I tell you!" And, in addition, making a Canadian connection -- that the interrogator was allegedly Canadian. I suspect that this is yet another ploy for obtaining millions of Canadian taxpayers monies -- or how to become a Millionnaire, just like Maher Arar.

640 Perplexed  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:11:33am

I remember being told by an E9 many years ago, that Congress was deathly afraid of a military coup and that's why Congress mandates having every permanent structure on a military reservation (base) approved by Congress before being built. The ONE had better get his act together soon as the American people aren't stupid and do remember and may vote out the majority of dems the next election cyle.

I wish that a Constitutionalist party existed that understood exactly what the job of government is and did it.

641 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:11:57am

I am ready to board my plane. Should I worry?

Image: wow_airplane.jpg

642 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:12:03am

re: #636 Render

I love shiny, Hebrew warriors, too.

643 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:12:29am

re: #618 reine.de.tout
Make her pay for the deductible,driver's ed class,and insurance premiums. No car except to go to work to pay her bills. Let her know you will be willing to buy her a bike in the mean time. Then after she gets done screaming and or pouting, tell her your doing it because you love her and don't want to see her hurt.

644 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:12:33am

re: #625 WriterMom

I posted the entire transcript up thread. Here it is again. It's real.

Disgusting. We elected a comic? A man without any executive experience who has a classless sense of humor. *dread*

645 scottishbuzzsaw  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:12:37am

Conan's curled up next to me so it's hard to type...well, that and the tears. Thank you all...I appreciate your thoughts and prayers. I think I'll just put everything aside today and snuggle back. Take care, everyone.

646 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:12:48am

re: #635 vxbush

From earlier in the thread.

Unreal.

647 infernallek  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:12:51am

No Stimulus.
Sign a petition: NoStimulus.com
Call your Senators: [Link: senate.gov...]

648 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:12:52am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

In my experience many kids always destroy their first car. And unfortunately, they don't respect the physics of the thing until they have a serious accident.

Buy her a big used boat - like a Chevy Caprice - to get physics on her side. Then restrict her driving to daylight hours for a while.

649 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:12:54am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

{reine} definitely drivers ed again. bondurant school of driving teaches defensive driving. maybe she's just one of those people who shouldn't drive because they can't? i know it's inconvenient but maybe she should carpool, take the bus instead of drive. i'd also, make my child pay for the tickets, insurance increase and repairs...

650 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:12:54am

let's see...
we've got Rs and Ds...
independents and libertarians...
Paulists and Birchers...
we've got commies and nazis...
and everybody in between and that's fine...everybody can have a voice...
but this election and the economy folding is more contrived than anything I've seen in my lifetime and the real enemy, the complicent beast that set it all up...the means to let it all happen is the MSM...my dire enemy...they have lied and deceived the public and they hide behind the 1st...if hate were a country I'd be China...it's the MSM that did us in not BO and his commie minions

651 VioletTiger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:12:56am

re: #578 scottishbuzzsaw

{}
Rest assured that any desicision made with a loving heart will be the right one.

652 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:13:30am

re: #622 WriterMom

Cheetos, beer, Froot Loops, and how about some nice pastrami on rye with mustard and a kosher dill?

and a blow dryer.../

653 Sabnen  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:13:32am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

Make her pay her share of the insurance?

654 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:14:14am

Grr. Okay. Gotta work.

655 Perplexed  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:14:18am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

Driver's Ed for sure. Also get a GPS logger and put a bumper sticker on the back of the car reading call[no phone numbers allowed] if you see this car being driven in an unsafe manner (disposable cell phone). Also put one of those orange light bars across the top saying novice driver.

656 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:14:32am

re: #645 scottishbuzzsaw

Snuggling is good. Very healthy for both you and the dog!

657 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:14:41am

re: #642 WriterMom

I love shiny, Hebrew warriors, too.

You two get a room... scheech!

658 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:15:12am

re: #645 scottishbuzzsaw

{Scottish}

659 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:16:00am

re: #652 phoenixgirl

LOL. We just have to make sure we get a fortress with room service.

660 VioletTiger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:16:38am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

Misery loves company - my daughter had two accidents within 6 months of getting her license. The second accident totaled her car. She had even had over-the-road training, but she was not a good driver, obviously.
We sent her to defensive driving school. It was money well spent.

661 Miss Trixie  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:17:17am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Another bright and shiny day in the Great White North and it's warmed up considerably.

And it's Firday! Yee-hawww! :D

{realwest} Morning luv *smoochie-smooch* Glad to see you today.

Saaay, is that a new Snuggie? Matches your eyes. :D

{ { {scottish} } } How sad to read about your beloved Conan. My prayers are going up for you and your family.

662 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:17:35am

re: #636 Render

Like my shiny new Hebrew National armor eh? The old stuff was dented and rusty.

CHICKS
DIG
IT,
R

Watch out! He's The Hebrew Hammer!

"I need you to get in contact with the Worldwide Jewish Media Conspiracy!" - Mordechai Jefferson Carver, The Hebrew Hammer

663 KenJen  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:17:43am

re: #634 faraway

I have been teaching my dog some new tricks

[Link: humor.beecy.net...]

Our future military if Obama has his way.

664 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:18:06am

re: #647 infernallek

No Stimulus.
Sign a petition: NoStimulus.com
Call your Senators: [Link: senate.gov...]

Done.

665 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:18:10am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

{reine}
definitely driver's ed. NOW
and maybe before she gets behind the wheel again.

666 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:18:59am

re: #665 nyc redneck

{reine}
definitely driver's ed. NOW
and maybe before she gets behind the wheel again.

And if she has another accident, make her push the car to her destination. :)

667 DistantThunder  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:19:44am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

I am trying to figure out how one survives a teen between the ages of 16-19.

Last week, young Reine was driving too fast, went around a curve, slid off the road, hit a signpost (breaking it), and destroying her front bumper and passenger side fender, along with the passenger side side-view mirror.

She was not comfortable driving without a mirror, so I've been driving her car until we can get it repaired, and she has been driving mine.

Last night a little after 6 pm - phone call - she ran through a stop sign and hit the back end of a vehicle that was going through the intersection.
Now MY car has a crumpled bumper, misplaced headlight, crumpled fender and hood and the passenger side door won't even open.

I am petrified that I will be getting a call, not from her, but from the police, saying she's been in a fatal accident.

I think I need to send her to driver's ed before she can drive again. I don't know what to do, but I can't keep her from driving forever. Any suggestions?

She needs more time driving with you, with her behind the wheel. Driver's ed would be useful. No phone in the car, no music playing - too distracting. No friends. My son wrecked my car last summer - now I have to drive him everywhere - which has turned out to be a good thing because we can keep a closer eye on him. This restriction of freedom has greatly humbled him.

668 Tigger2005  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:19:59am

re: #40 logboy

Our wolf problem is out of control here in Northern WI. We had the worst deer harvest numbers in many years. The problem with wolves is that they have predator other than man. If they are not kept in check, they kill and eat everything.

Look, it's a new world. You need to give up the idea of making decisions based on facts and common sense. It's all about FEELINGS now.

669 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:20:12am

re: #630 jester6

Putin doesn't need a military anymore. He knows Obama will not use ours. Take us off the table and the only other nation with a credible threat is China.

Besides, Putin has a new strategic weapon - energy. He controls 25% of Europe's natural gas.

That's true, but it is a seasonal weapon, and it is one that hurts Russia to use, especially when they are cash strapped (they've used up ~40% of their reserves trying to shore up the Ruble, and predictions for their economy aren't that great).

670 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:20:23am
671 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:20:55am

re: #611 abaleh
Putin simply can't let go of his KGB mindset, I'm afraid.
And we haven't done much to shake him out of it.

However, if we had a different POTUS, I could foresee a day when Kyrgystan would ask us for aid and - again with a different POTUS -our PROPER response would be "Gee we'd like to help you deal with your Islamic Jihadists/natural disaster, but have no where to land our planes. Too Bad, So Sad.*

*You really should know that I also think Pres. Bush and President Obama - when asked for aid for the "Palestinians" should sit down with the leaders of the PLO (both Hamas and Fatah) show them that film clip of the Pali's dancing in the street after 9/11 and afterwards advise them that they have - oh, I dunno - maybe an hour to get their affairs in order and get the hell out of Gaza and the West Bank.
But, that's just me!

672 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:21:25am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Watch out for the shell game being played by Congress. There will be stories about how the Senate is cutting money from the bloated porkfest. Ignore them. The bottom line is that the porkfest is going to be the same $820 billion that the House passed; in other words, no changes.

Of course, President Obama isn't above using the fear card to get this rammed through. You must respect his authoritay because he won, and he hopes that no one reads the fine print.

Trillion dollars down the tubes, just like that - and for failed economic policies, one need not look further than Japan, that attempted the same kind of "stimulus" and failed miserably.

673 RoughRider  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:21:58am

As a follow-up to the Pepsi/Obama topic, Central KIA in the Dallas area is doing a similarly nauseating thing in their TV commercials... a red and white version of the "O" logo and someone who's supposed to look like Dear Leader at a podium asking if you can drive away in a car even with poor credit... "Yes you can!"

/barf

674 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:22:00am

re: #665 nyc redneck

{reine}
definitely driver's ed. NOW
and maybe before she gets behind the wheel again.

I taught both my kids to drive at 14...took them to the vast school complex and they learned my way...slamming on the brakes a 50...turning sharp...parking...the whole ball of wax...I can easily sleep while they drive no problem

675 VioletTiger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:23:06am

Must get back to work.
Have a good day, all.

676 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:23:34am

re: #670 FrogMarch

The democrats want to take away your access to Free Speech.

This would bother me less if we had at least six conservatives on the Supreme Court.

677 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:24:17am

re: #610 vxbush
Hey, good morning {vxbush} - how are you feeling today? Well, I hope! I think maybe it would be water, CHOCOLATE, and beer and Cheetos (the water merely to rinse the taste of the Cheetos and beer away before diving into the Chocolate!)!

678 MJ  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:24:20am

Good post by Melanie Phillips:

The Jihad Against Britain's Jews


[Link: www.spectator.co.uk...]

679 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:24:27am

re: #673 RoughRider

As a follow-up to the Pepsi/Obama topic, Central KIA in the Dallas area is doing a similarly nauseating thing in their TV commercials... a red and white version of the "O" logo and someone who's supposed to look like Dear Leader at a podium asking if you can drive away in a car even with poor credit... "Yes you can!"

/barf

Wait... wasn't it "you can buy a home even with poor credit" that got us into this mess and opened the door to ending out way of life in the first place?

680 J.S.  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:24:34am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

I would tell her that as of right now you will have to make arrangements for an alternative form of transportation (bus, taxi, bicycle, walking -- take your pick), but you will not be driving a car. If, however, you decide to take a certified course in Driver's Ed and successfully complete the course, then perhaps a discussion can occur with respect to having driving privileges re-instated. but until that time -- no car.

681 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:24:51am

what's with the gas prices creeping up when oil is down to $41 a barrel? we're at $1.93 here

682 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:24:56am

re: #674 albusteve

I taught both my kids to drive at 14...took them to the vast school complex and they learned my way...slamming on the brakes a 50...turning sharp...parking...the whole ball of wax...I can easily sleep while they drive no problem

Both my girls have their licenses and drive. The older one is a Senior in College and has a car. The School is about 2:45 to 3:00 away. I still take the train up to drive back with her when she comes home and drive back with her when she goes up and take the train back. And she doesn't mind. I don't think you ever stop worrying about your kids till you start to get senile.

683 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:25:40am

Stimulus update: Must-read by Jonah G.

684 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:25:57am

re: #682 Nevergiveup

Both my girls have their licenses and drive. The older one is a Senior in College and has a car. The School is about 2:45 to 3:00 away. I still take the train up to drive back with her when she comes home and drive back with her when she goes up and take the train back. And she doesn't mind. I don't think you ever stop worrying about your kids till you start to get senile.

worrying about your kids makes you senile...i'm well on my way...

685 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:26:05am

I hereby christen the 'stimulus' bill - Porkus Maximus ™

686 Caliredst8r  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:27:30am

re: #681 phoenixgirl

From what I've heard it's because they are changing the blend of gasoline at the refineries, a seasonal change that happens every year.

687 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:27:30am

re: #681 phoenixgirl

what's with the gas prices creeping up when oil is down to $41 a barrel? we're at $1.93 here

Refiners have to switch over to summer blend production... so there's less capacity at present. That will adjust within a few weeks.

688 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:28:02am

re: #632 Wyatt Earp
Howdy Wyatt - how are you this morning? That was some excellent advice you gave Reine (waives at Reine!) but I'd just add that she should make sure her daughter, the princess, learns to stay a decent distance behind the car in front of her,too. I regretfully lost almost 9 friends in auto accidents in High School and College due to a failure to observe that little piece of advice.

689 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:28:15am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

I am trying to figure out how one survives a teen between the ages of 16-19.

Last week, young Reine was driving too fast, went around a curve, slid off the road, hit a signpost (breaking it), and destroying her front bumper and passenger side fender, along with the passenger side side-view mirror.

She was not comfortable driving without a mirror, so I've been driving her car until we can get it repaired, and she has been driving mine.

Last night a little after 6 pm - phone call - she ran through a stop sign and hit the back end of a vehicle that was going through the intersection.
Now MY car has a crumpled bumper, misplaced headlight, crumpled fender and hood and the passenger side door won't even open.

I am petrified that I will be getting a call, not from her, but from the police, saying she's been in a fatal accident.

I think I need to send her to driver's ed before she can drive again. I don't know what to do, but I can't keep her from driving forever. Any suggestions?

It was "tough love", but all of my kids saved up for and bought their own first car, worked for and paid us their portion of the insurance premiums, and all 3 know how to fix most of the common problems with a car. Both my daughters have spent time under their cars with me learning about what bolts on to where, and why they put the part on.

I sucked back then, but now I am a wise and wonderful dad because of it. (Their viewpoints).

I firmly recommend the defensive driving courses, if you can afford them.

690 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:28:20am

re: #682 Nevergiveup

Both my girls have their licenses and drive. The older one is a Senior in College and has a car. The School is about 2:45 to 3:00 away. I still take the train up to drive back with her when she comes home and drive back with her when she goes up and take the train back. And she doesn't mind. I don't think you ever stop worrying about your kids till you start to get senile.

as for my kids...they are both very serious defensive drivers...both lost high school friends by accident...I am totally relaxed with either one

691 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:28:40am

re: #671 realwest

Putin simply can't let go of his KGB mindset, I'm afraid.
And we haven't done much to shake him out of it.

There's really no incentive for him to shake out of it, with the Europeans being too afraid of a confrontation. A paper tiger can still beat the crap out of paper sheep.

692 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:28:44am

re: #685 faraway

I hereby christen the 'stimulus' bill - Porkus Maximus ™

and the diseased thinking behind it we can call "porkulitis"

693 ThinkRight  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:28:48am

re: #685 faraway

I hereby christen the 'stimulus' bill - Porkus Maximus ™


And don't forget about
"Socialism Is Us"

694 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:28:53am

re: #681 phoenixgirl

what's with the gas prices creeping up when oil is down to $41 a barrel? we're at $1.93 here

Taxes.

695 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:28:57am

Obama will soon be creating pork.gov

696 rawmuse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:29:14am

Good morning, Lizards! Great news, we are getting some rain in northern California this morning.

697 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:29:17am

re: #684 phoenixgirl

worrying about your kids makes you senile...i'm well on my way...

I'm looking forward to senility. I think it will be a smooth transition for me.

698 Maximu§  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:29:33am

re: #685 faraway

I hereby christen the 'stimulus' bill - Porkus Maximus ™

~coughing~

Excuse me?

699 turn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:30:02am

Morning all,

Scotti, I'm sorry about your dog. I've been in your situation many, many times. The humane thing to do is have him put him down, don't make him suffer through his final days. Then immediately go out and find another dog. One other suggestion, when your next dog begins to show the affects of old age get another puppy and raise them together. When you have to put the old one down having the new one really softens the blow.

Reine, Wow a stroke of bad luck or the start of a pattern? My father was a used car salesman so when I got my license he set me up with this cool 69 MGB. That thing was quick, and needless to say I started getting speeding tickets. He gave me a warning but after my third moving violation he yanked the MGB and put me in a 56 VW bug. That thing only had 36 hp and would barely get out its own way. Guess what, no more trouble with the law. That car also gave me an appreciation for the fact that you don't need to speed around to get somewhere, I actually took some pride in the fact I had the slowest car. I think taking that strategy (slow car) may also keep little reine from speeding and might help head off another crack up. Oh, and put her in the drivers ed and make her pay for the damage and insurance while you're at it.

700 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:30:23am

re: #640 Perplexed

I remember being told by an E9 many years ago, that Congress was deathly afraid of a military coup and that's why Congress mandates having every permanent structure on a military reservation (base) approved by Congress before being built.

Sorry, but that's bullshit. There has never been a serious threat of a military coup in this country, and probably never will be, unless some president vastly overreaches .

Congress approves every federally-owned building, no matter where it's located. Ever notice that they have to pass a bill just to name the Post Office in Podunk, Iowa?

701 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:30:24am

re: #683 FrogMarch

Stimulus update: Must-read by Jonah G.

can't do it

702 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:30:32am

re: #698 Maximu§

~coughing~

Excuse me?

LOL, i was wondering what you would think abt. it.

703 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:30:34am

is there any way to edit a post once it's been posted?

704 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:30:42am

re: #669 abaleh

That's true, but it is a seasonal weapon, and it is one that hurts Russia to use, especially when they are cash strapped (they've used up ~40% of their reserves trying to shore up the Ruble, and predictions for their economy aren't that great).

Good point on the cost of not selling gas. But even if it is seasonal he can easily tip Europe into a serious recession at the turn of a valve.

705 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:30:42am

re: #694 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

You're getting that confused with the price of cigarettes, which will be jumping 60 cents per pack in short order because of the passage of the S-CHIP mess.

706 UFO TOFU  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:30:59am

re: #681 phoenixgirl

what's with the gas prices creeping up when oil is down to $41 a barrel? we're at $1.93 here

This might be part of it.

707 Maximu§  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:31:36am

re: #702 nyc redneck

LOL, i was wondering what you would think abt. it.

You little Vixin...lol

708 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:32:09am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

I'd not let her drive for a while. And when she does again, she pays for the difference in insurance.
I'm not even sure if she'd still have her license after 2 at-fault accidents in Mass.

709 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:32:14am

re: #695 faraway

Obama will soon be creating pork.gov

That might offend the muslim world.

710 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:32:15am

re: #705 lawhawk

do you know where bloomberg is on his salt grab?
should we be stock piling?

711 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:32:29am

re: #705 lawhawk

You're getting that confused with the price of cigarettes, which will be jumping 60 cents per pack in short order because of the passage of the S-CHIP mess.

...Which directly counters the billlions in "stimulus" for smoking cessation programs!

712 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:32:51am

re: #672 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Watch out for the shell game being played by Congress. There will be stories about how the Senate is cutting money from the bloated porkfest. Ignore them. The bottom line is that the porkfest is going to be the same $820 billion that the House passed; in other words, no changes.

Of course, President Obama isn't above using the fear card to get this rammed through. You must respect his authoritay because he won, and he hopes that no one reads the fine print.

Trillion dollars down the tubes, just like that - and for failed economic policies, one need not look further than Japan, that attempted the same kind of "stimulus" and failed miserably.

I noticed a media meme-blitz the last few days, too, about "moderates" in the house "stripping billions" from the bill. Just trying to assuage the public? I hadn't thought of that. We have to pay attention to media meme-blitzes, and see them for what they are. When every single news outlet in the nation has this story, with the same language in every story, then there is collusion, and a game being played with the public's perception.

713 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:32:51am

re: #705 lawhawk

You're getting that confused with the price of cigarettes, which will be jumping 60 cents per pack in short order because of the passage of the S-CHIP mess.

Everyone smoke up! The children are counting on you!

714 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:32:54am

re: #661 {Miss Trixie}
Hey there gorgeous! *smooches* back to you - and I don't understand the comment about my snuggie - I have PLAID eyes?!
:)
How are you doing today?

715 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:33:10am

re: #673 RoughRider

As a follow-up to the Pepsi/Obama topic, Central KIA in the Dallas area is doing a similarly nauseating thing in their TV commercials... a red and white version of the "O" logo and someone who's supposed to look like Dear Leader at a podium asking if you can drive away in a car even with poor credit... "Yes you can!"

/barf

Sounds like they now how to appeal to the right demographic. Bad credit and Obama support probably go together.

716 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:33:15am

re: #695 faraway

Obama will soon be creating pork.gov

Sure will make me miss the days of wasteful government spending.

717 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:33:26am

re: #695 faraway

Obama will soon be creating pork.gov

Well, with all this pork he's supporting, we know he's not Muslim.

718 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:33:30am

re: #696 rawmuse

Morning rawmuse.

719 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:33:55am

re: #698 Maximu§

~coughing~

Excuse me?

I have a gwate fweind at wome named...

He has a wife, you know.

720 turn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:34:10am

re: #696 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! Great news, we are getting some rain in northern California this morning.

I had a visitor in from Chicago yesterday and it was raining pretty good here in Sac. I said "I see you brought the good weather with you" He looked at me a little puzzled until I explained the drought we are facing here with the snowpack at an all time low and no rain. I say let it rain!

721 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:34:26am

re: #683 FrogMarch

Stimulus update: Must-read by Jonah G.

Good read, thanks!

722 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:34:36am

re: #719 Guanxi88

I have a gwate fweind at wome named...

He has a wife, you know.

Rotundus Bigendus

723 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:34:48am

re: #681 phoenixgirl

what's with the gas prices creeping up when oil is down to $41 a barrel? we're at $1.93 here

NYC is over $2.00 a gallon... I don't understand...

724 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:34:57am

re: #623 faraway

Obama's new Presidential limo arrived.

[Link: sportswrap.berecruited.com...]

Does that replace this one?

725 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:35:12am

re: #681 phoenixgirl

There is also a strike threat from the refinery workers. Unless I missed an update the USW is continuing negotiations but they have given all the major refiners a rolling 24 hour strike warning.

726 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:35:35am

re: #723 tfc3rid

NYC is over $2.00 a gallon... I don't understand...

gouging...nothing new

727 rawmuse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:35:41am

re: #718 rightside

Morning rawmuse.

Morning, Chief! Love the pic on your link.

728 Throbert McGee  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:35:44am

re: #499 NJDhockeyfan

PETA's Mideast peace plan: 'Give Peas a Chance'

PETA's signs are in Hebrew and in English. They feature Israelis and Palestinians sitting down for a meat-free meal along with the slogans: "Give Peas a Chance," and "Nonviolence Begins on Our Plates: Go Vegetarian."


LOL

Hmmm! I guess they didn't see any need to print the signs in ال عربية because of the docile temperaments and strictly herbivorous diets that have earned Palestinians the nickname "manatees of the Middle East." Obviously, Arabic signs nagging Palestinians to be more peaceful and go vegan would be as pointless as putting up signs in the Castro saying "Give fellatio another try, won't you?"

729 Render  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:36:11am

re: #662 SteveC

Wrong Hammer...

DELIMBER,
R

730 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:36:45am

re: #681 phoenixgirl

what's with the gas prices creeping up when oil is down to $41 a barrel? we're at $1.93 here


It's Bush's fault

731 turn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:36:55am

re: #703 abaleh

is there any way to edit a post once it's been posted?

Yes, scroll so the post is at the center of your screen. Take out a marks-a-lot and write the edit in on top of your monitor. This will only work once however.

732 Maximu§  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:37:00am

re: #719 Guanxi88

I have a gwate fweind at wome named...

He has a wife, you know.

Is there a secret message buried in there somewhere?

733 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:37:30am

re: #499 NJDhockeyfan

PETA's Mideast peace plan: 'Give Peas a Chance'

LOL

I guess they don't want the palis eating endangered sea turtles.

734 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:37:40am

re: #679 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) "wasn't it "you can buy a home even with poor credit" that got us into this mess and opened the door to ending out way of life in the first place?"
Why yes, yes it was. Just another gift from Clinton and the Dems Leftists - the Community Reinvestment Act.

735 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:37:41am

Why did Obama drop the charges on the planner of the Cole bombing? Was it because he was angry that the military judge ruled that he would move forward?

Obama makes us less safe by the hour...

736 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:37:43am

re: #704 jester6

Good point on the cost of not selling gas. But even if it is seasonal he can easily tip Europe into a serious recession at the turn of a valve.

Well, they are turning to nuclear as somebody posted here yesterday, so maybe their dependance on him will decrease, though that is still years away. Right now, since they are displaying the characteristics of "the Last Man"*, they'll continue being Russia's B#%!$es.

I believe I saw this reference here about a year or two ago.

737 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:37:58am

re: #722 soxfan4life

Rotundus Bigendus

Oh, did he we-mawwy? He used to be mawwied to Incontinentia Buttox.

Wait a minute! I will not have my fweind mocked by the common soldewy! He commands a kwak wegion!

738 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:38:02am

re: #724 NJDhockeyfan

I would love to have that car.

739 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:38:38am

Wow - lots of good suggestions, I was trying to acknowledge each person but there are too many.

thanks all.

defensive driving, she will pay the deductible on the repairs (there goes the money she was saving for her trip to Europe next summer!) - limited driving for awhile, and no friends in the car.

She claims she does not use her cell phone in the car, and I know when she's driving and I call, she does not answer but calls me back when she's stopped. That might just be for me, though.

Friends in the car are also very distracting.

Again, thank you all very much.

740 Maximu§  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:39:02am

re: #735 tfc3rid

Why did Obama drop the charges on the planner of the Cole bombing? Was it because he was angry that the military judge ruled that he would move forward?

Obama makes us less safe by the hour...

This really happened? I wonder how the families of those 17 dead Sailors feel?

741 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:39:20am

re: #705 lawhawk

You're getting that confused with the price of cigarettes, which will be jumping 60 cents per pack in short order because of the passage of the S-CHIP mess.

Woops...your right. Although several states are looking at raising their taxes as are the feds.

742 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:39:29am

re: #733 Kosh's Shadow

I guess they don't want the palis eating endangered sea turtles.

Throbert's post made it clear, the ads are not in Arabic. These PETA ads are only targeted towards the enemyIsraelis and Americans.

743 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:39:49am

re: #732 Maximu§

Is there a secret message buried in there somewhere?

Life of Brian, Pontius Pilate scene.

744 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:39:51am

re: #721 CynicalConservative

Good read, thanks!

Jonah always finds a way to take the edge off.
"100 percent renewable Loch Ness Monster poop"

745 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:39:59am

re: #740 Maximu§

This really happened? I wonder how the families of those 17 dead Sailors feel?

Dropped it without prejudice so they can be retried but most likely in a civillian court...

746 turn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:40:33am

re: #735 tfc3rid

Why did Obama drop the charges on the planner of the Cole bombing? Was it because he was angry that the military judge ruled that he would move forward?

Obama makes us less safe by the hour...

I didn't know he did that, what a POTUS POS.

747 vxbush  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:40:44am

re: #677 realwest

Hey, good morning {vxbush} - how are you feeling today? Well, I hope! I think maybe it would be water, CHOCOLATE, and beer and Cheetos (the water merely to rinse the taste of the Cheetos and beer away before diving into the Chocolate!)!

Heh. You get the beer, and then just let me have a little extra on the chocolate side, 'kay? :D

748 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:41:02am

re: #723 tfc3rid

NYC is over $2.00 a gallon... I don't understand...

Perhaps they want to make as much money as they can before they get nationalized?

749 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:41:14am

re: #706 UFO TOFU

This might be part of it.

yes, that is a part of it definitely...these special blends are ridiculous. when our pipeline from tucson broke in 2003 our gov. had to get a waiver from the epa that allowed us to use conventional fuel for a limited time...

750 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:41:27am

re: #701 albusteve

can't do it

fingers broken?

751 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:41:38am

re: #727 rawmuse


Thanks! but am not a chief, only a first class petty officer. :^)

752 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:41:38am

re: #740 Maximu§

This really happened? I wonder how the families of those 17 dead Sailors feel?

They should feel blessed that the Messiah has chosen to see to their trivial need for justice!

753 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:41:52am

re: #721 CynicalConservative

Good read, thanks!

I'm glad O and the Dems tried to take a big bite of the apple so soon. It exposed them to many. They could have been stealthy and nibbled away for 4 years. Now that will be more difficult as the skepticism has started. Arrogance has it's price.

754 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:42:08am
Susan Crawford, the retired judge who oversees the commissions, issued a ruling dismissing without prejudice all charges against Saudi national Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, said Pentagon spokesman Navy Commander J.D. Gordon.

The dismissal of the charges eliminates the need for Monday's hearing but al-Nashiri would remain in U.S. custody and could be recharged under the commissions system or a replacement drawn up by the Obama administration.

"It was (Crawford's) decision, and it reflects the fact that the president has issued an executive order which mandates that the military commissions be halted, pending the outcome of several comprehensive reviews of our detention operations at Guantanamo," Gordon said.

755 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:42:13am

re: #723 tfc3rid

NYC is over $2.00 a gallon... I don't understand...

Because you are getting screwed. Next question. This is so f'ning easy, I should be in congress.

756 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:42:15am

re: #681 phoenixgirl
Good morning phoenixgirl! The problem is refineries, as in we don't have anywhere near enough of them to turn that cheap crude into gasoline. IIRC, the last time any oil company got a permit to build a refinery was about 20+ years ago; blame the environmentalists, I'm pretty sure they are to blame and if they aren't the reason why it's so hard to get permits to build refineries, blame 'em anyway - they've done waaay more damage to our economy than good for the environment in any event!

757 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:42:43am

re: #740 Maximu§

This really happened? I wonder how the families of those 17 dead Sailors feel?

Do you think that thought went through Barry's mind, or any liberals mind? They care more about what the rest of the world feels.

758 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:43:24am

And the kick in the ass is that Obama is meeting with 9/11 families and the families of Cole victims today at the White House...

759 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:43:25am

re: #755 Walter L. Newton

Because you are getting screwed. Next question. This is so f'ning easy, I should be in congress.

Walter for Congress! When does the campaign start?

760 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:43:34am

re: #750 FrogMarch

fingers broken?

no...I'm brain dead with the issue...disbelief...

761 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:43:43am

re: #757 soxfan4life

Do you think that thought went through Barry's mind, or any liberals mind? They care more about what the rest of the world feels.

No, they care more about What They Get. How the rest of the world feels only matters as it relates to What They Get.

762 Perplexed  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:43:49am

re: #700 lobo91

Sorry, but that's bullshit. There has never been a serious threat of a military coup in this country, and probably never will be, unless some president vastly overreaches .

Congress approves every federally-owned building, no matter where it's located. Ever notice that they have to pass a bill just to name the Post Office in Podunk, Iowa?

Never said that there was a serious threat of military coup. Just said that Congress is afraid of one. At that point all we wanted to do was to build a storage shed for the lawnmower and that was the reason given at the time.

763 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:43:57am

re: #751 rightside

Thanks! but am not a chief, only a first class petty officer. :^)

Don't be so hard on yourself. You've never come off as being petty.
/

764 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:44:06am

re: #724 NJDhockeyfan

Does that replace this one?

That is one bad mutha

765 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:44:36am

re: #759 CynicalConservative

Walter for Congress! When does the campaign start?

I'm making an attempt to run for something...

766 oronpam  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:44:50am

Doesn't Obama remind you of a high school class president that promises to get vending machines in the cafeteria; or vote for me and all your wildest dreams will come true (Vote for Pedro).

Does he know what he is doing? Going to be a long four years!

767 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:44:55am

re: #739 reine.de.tout

Wow - lots of good suggestions, I was trying to acknowledge each person but there are too many.

thanks all.

defensive driving, she will pay the deductible on the repairs (there goes the money she was saving for her trip to Europe next summer!) - limited driving for awhile, and no friends in the car.

She claims she does not use her cell phone in the car, and I know when she's driving and I call, she does not answer but calls me back when she's stopped. That might just be for me, though.

Friends in the car are also very distracting.

Again, thank you all very much.

My younger daughter lost her brakes one winter when she was 17 -- a chunk of road ice came up and severed the brake line (not much you can do about that!).

She managed to get to the shoulder, 'glide' the vehicle on the ice, and ended up taking out a road sign in the ditch, which brought her to a stop.

I paid for the damages. She asked my why I was doing that. I told her "you did the absolute best job you could, kept your head, didn't cause any more accidents, and ended up hitting something cheap".

There are flip-side reactions.

768 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:45:07am

re: #765 tfc3rid

I'm making an attempt to run for something...

Small room with lots of plumbing?

769 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:45:10am

re: #723 tfc3rid
Wanna compare gas taxes? Here.

770 rawmuse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:45:14am

Last night I had dinner with Maj. Gen. Pat Brady, Medal of Honor recipient, helicopter pilot in Viet Nam. It was one of the most memorable nights of my life.

771 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:45:25am

A great piece by Krauthammer in WaPo today
The Fierce Urgency of Pork

Happy Friday Lizards!

772 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:45:28am

We were hoping for pork?

773 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:45:36am

re: #735 tfc3rid

Why did Obama drop the charges on the planner of the Cole bombing? Was it because he was angry that the military judge ruled that he would move forward?

Obama makes us less safe by the hour...

but every hour, we are becoming more loved by the world.
this goal is more important to O than anything.

i'm calling b.s. so, today, i'm going to drive all i want, eat all i want and get the heat up, at least to where he cranks it in the white house.
let the world howl.

774 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:45:44am

re: #764 faraway

That is one bad mutha

Shut yo mouth! /

775 Render  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:46:00am

re: #724 NJDhockeyfan

Those are the new Secret Service chase cars.

This is the new Presidential limo.

PARDON
MY
PIMPAGE,
R

776 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:46:40am

re: #774 lawhawk

Shut yo mouth! /


[Video]

He's just talkin' about Shaft.

777 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:46:41am

re: #775 Render

Those are the new Secret Service chase cars.

This is the new Presidential limo.

PARDON
MY
PIMPAGE,
R

Can't wait for the White House to be on Cribs.

778 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:46:47am

re: #774 lawhawk

Shut yo mouth! /

You know I'm talkin' about Shaft!

779 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:46:55am

re: #776 Guanxi88

He's just talkin' about Shaft.

Then I can dig it

780 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:47:06am

re: #755 Walter L. Newton

Yeah, but you're disqualified for paying your taxes on time and not having a mistress on the side (or do you?)... /

781 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:47:27am

re: #639 J.S.

My first rule: I don't believe anything terrorists (and their supporters) tell me.

U be Smartz Lizardz

782 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:47:38am

re: #758 tfc3rid

And the kick in the ass is that Obama is meeting with 9/11 families and the families of Cole victims today at the White House...

I'd like to see a couple dozen logical,sane,legitimate versions of Cindy Sheehan emerge from that meeting.

783 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:47:40am

A look at Japan for a glimpse into our future.
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

784 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:47:57am

re: #775 Render

Those are the new Secret Service chase cars.

This is the new Presidential limo.

PARDON
MY
PIMPAGE,
R

Obama isn't cool enough to do all that. He's a dork. He doesn't have a pimptastic bone in his body.

785 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:48:02am

re: #775 Render

Those are the new Secret Service chase cars.

This is the new Presidential limo.

PARDON
MY
PIMPAGE,
R

Are those spinners I see?

786 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:48:08am

re: #769 lawhawk

Wanna compare gas taxes? Here.

Thanks! Always been curious...

787 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:48:13am

re: #740 Maximu§

Obama is meeting with the families today.

He ordered the trials stopped. The prosecutor, following the orders of the POTUS filed a motion to stay the trial process. The judge, in this case an Army colonel, denied the motion. So the prosecutor dropped the charges without prejudice - they can refile them at anytime.

However, the big problem is these detainees have been treated under the rules of the military tribunals. Obama wants to move these guys into the criminal justice system. These guys have been denied counsel, a speedy trial and have been tortured. Our criminal system cannot convict them.

788 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:48:18am

re: #700 lobo91
They have a post office in Podunk, Iowa? I didn't know that!
:)
But the first part of your post was spot on; I can only see a military coup if we have a POTUS who would attempt to turn over the sovereignty of the United States to the UN or some other nation - that oath that I took 30+ years ago is still my oath.
The idea of a Military takeover of the USA is just somebody's wet dream. Period.

789 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:48:24am

re: #779 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Then I can dig it

Ain't noboby understand him but his woman...

790 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:48:26am

re: #780 lawhawk

Yeah, but you're disqualified for paying your taxes on time and not having a mistress on the side (or do you?)... /

I'd offer that his work in theater balances all that out. :)

791 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:48:44am

re: #779 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Then I can dig it

Yes I think it was Heidegger (or maybe Ice-T), who reminded us to resist the temptation to hate the player, but rather admonished us to hate the game.

792 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:48:55am

re: #760 albusteve

no...I'm brain dead with the issue...disbelief...

ah - well I do understand. The public is saying NO - and the dems are not listening. Good luck with that, dems.

793 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:49:12am

Who's the black private dick / That's a sex machine to all the chicks? / SHAFT! / Ya damn right!

794 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:49:21am

re: #710 nyc redneck

[Link: www.examiner.com...]

795 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:49:43am

re: #703 abaleh
Sadly, no there is no way to edit a comment once you hit that post button. A fact I've regretted on more than one occasion!

796 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:49:54am

re: #756 realwest

{real}

yep, we are supposed to have one built here by 2012 but the location has not been set and probably never will be

797 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:49:56am

re: #618 reine.de.tout

I'm going to go against the grain here and say that more driver's ed is not a good use of time or money. I'm going to be a bit critical here, so stick with me.

She should have you sitting next to her as she drives with you teaching her. Take away the cell phone if she has one. They are major distractions (I had to dodge a cell phone using motorist this morning). Forbid her from having passengers (except for family) in the car. Also, examine how you and Mr. Tout drive. Teenagers often drive like their parents, but without the experience to help them get out of trouble. If you or he are casual with stop signs, she will be moreso. If she continues on this path, you may want to look at taking away her license until she's 18.

798 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:50:21am

re: #789 SteveC

Ain't noboby understand him but his woman...

"What'd you get, Shaft?"
"I got laid. What'd you get?"
/should have a Shaft movie festival soon.

799 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:52:12am

2nd name for 'stimulus' bill: SHAFT

800 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:53:16am

OK, Shaftus Maximus

801 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:53:26am

re: #793 faraway

Who's the black private dick / That's a sex machine to all the chicks? / SHAFT! / Ya damn right!

"No I am not a cop anymore! Does that make me more dangerous or less dangerous?"

802 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:54:18am

There I go with those embarrassing 2 comments in a row again.

803 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:54:32am

re: #758 tfc3rid

Why would THEY want to meet with HIM?

804 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:54:32am

I think having the Edit Post ability could serously mess up the threads. Folks would be referring to and quoting posts which are no longer the same. Odd stuff could happen. Unless one could click on a post and get a wikipedia-style list of prior edits, someone could, later on in a thread, claim "I never said that!" and nobody who didn't see it pre-edit, or take a screenshot, would be the wiser.

Just remember, Preview, being the enemy of my enemy, Is My Friend. :)

805 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:55:14am

re: #773 nyc redneck

but every hour, we are becoming more loved by the world.
this goal is more important to O than anything.

i'm calling b.s. so, today, i'm going to drive all i want, eat all i want and get the heat up, at least to where he cranks it in the white house.
let the world howl.

Gee, that sounds like a normal day in my life ;~)

If you can pay for it, do it... good for the economy.

806 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:56:07am

re: #795 realwest

Sadly, no there is no way to edit a comment once you hit that post button. A fact I've regretted on more than one occasion!

Thanks.

807 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:56:08am

re: #681 phoenixgirl

what's with the gas prices creeping up when oil is down to $41 a barrel? we're at $1.93 here

I paid $1.50 this morning in Dallas.

808 SteveC  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:56:23am

re: #804 Taqiyyotomist

Just remember, Preview, being the enemy of my enemy, Is My Friend. :)

Now you're getting all philosophical and stuff. Somebody pass the Excedrin!

809 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:56:48am

re: #804 Taqiyyotomist


PIMF replace each instance of "posts" with "comments". heh.

810 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:58:57am

re: #793 faraway

Who's the black private dick / That's a sex machine to all the chicks? / SHAFT! / Ya damn right!

Private Penguin.

811 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:59:16am

re: #770 rawmuse

That must have been awesome. No one in congress can even hold a MOH recipients jockstrap.

812 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:59:31am

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

understatement

813 Taqiyyotomist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:59:34am

“The power of the leader is like his loincloth: worn too tight it will ride up and chafe, worn too loose it will expose all his junk.” --Iowahawk, quoting tribal wisdom of Ibo.

I gotcher philosophy.

814 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:00:05am

re: #800 faraway

OK, Shaftus Maximus

Heh.

815 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:00:39am

" We're all on the hustle."

816 JohnAdams  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:01:19am

So these friends of mine, a couple, are considering getting married, trying to sell their house with the easy mortgage, and buy a new house that will be a stretch for their combined incomes.

In this economy.

In Michigan.

Am I wrong to tell them they're crazy?

817 rawmuse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:02:09am

re: #811 rightside

That must have been awesome. No one in congress can even hold a MOH recipients jockstrap.

More important, Gen. Brady talked at length about the men the HE respected, and considered to be heroes. Some, no longer with us.

818 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:02:44am

re: #816 JohnAdams

So these friends of mine, a couple, are considering getting married, trying to sell their house with the easy mortgage, and buy a new house that will be a stretch for their combined incomes.

In this economy.

In Michigan.

Am I wrong to tell them they're crazy?

No. If they are conservative, you'll be doing them a favor, if they are moonbats, that may be two less citizens that we'll be supporting down the road.

819 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:02:50am

re: #816 JohnAdams

Yes. It's one thing to enter the real estate market when you aren't trying to sell your existing property - then buying is a good option in many markets.

Trying to sell and buy another house is a bad move at the moment, because everyone is looking for bargains and sellers have little leverage.

820 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:03:19am

re: #770 rawmuse
Hey raw - that's awesome! I had the pleasure and honor of serving with Paul ("Buddy") Bucha, Captain with the 101st Airbornemobile who won the Medal of Honor in Vietnam as well, both on the board of the charity some of us set up to help Vietnam Vets get jobs in NYC and in putting together the Medal of Honor exhibit on the Intrepid - great, very humble guy. He's the fourth Medal of Honor recipient I've known and they all had two things in common - NONE of them thought they deserved the Medal of Honor and all of them were ACTIVE - as in if something needed doing, they did it or saw that it got done!
How did it go for you - did you have a great time?

821 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:03:27am

re: #819 lawhawk

Opps... Yes, you're right to tell them they're crazy. In other words, you're not wrong.

822 Macker  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:05:11am

re: #816 JohnAdams

So these friends of mine, a couple, are considering getting married, trying to sell their house with the easy mortgage, and buy a new house that will be a stretch for their combined incomes.

In this economy.

In Michigan.

Am I wrong to tell them they're crazy?

Tell them to GTFO of Michigan! I left that state five years ago and it's gotten worse. My girlfriend is about to do the same and be with me.

823 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:05:53am

re: #772 faraway

We were hoping for pork?

If its this...

824 rawmuse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:06:43am

re: #820 realwest

I played music at the event, there was a room full of men with similar stories. I was privileged to be in the same room, honestly. Also among them was Irving Williams, who was captive with Stockdale, but not as long. Stockdale was a hell of a man.

825 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:07:02am

re: #822 Macker

Tell them to GTFO of Michigan! I left that state five years ago and it's gotten worse. My girlfriend is about to do the same and be with me.

I left MI 5 years ago as well...my daughter and son in law are still there...needless to say I worry for them

826 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:07:10am

re: #811 rightside

That must have been awesome. No one in congress can even hold a MOH recipients jockstrap.

But what about the master of the purple heart John Kerry?
sarc.

827 JohnAdams  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:07:16am

re: #821 lawhawk

Opps... Yes, you're right to tell them they're crazy. In other words, you're not wrong.

Thanks. I figured I was right but don't pretend to understand the full impact of what is happening right now. I keep hearing the "D" word (Depression) being tossed around quite a bit more, by seemingly responsible individuals.

Even Mr. Hopenchange. He's saying it without actually saying it. Thanks for calming the waters, boss. Is this what we meant by "inexperience"?

828 VegasRick  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:07:21am

Hairy Red said yesterday that if they didn't pass the "porkulis bill" last night the stock market would crash today. He said that they would work throughout the night to get it passed, then they all left. Scumbag.

829 red satellite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:07:55am

re: #816 JohnAdams

So these friends of mine, a couple, are considering getting married, trying to sell their house with the easy mortgage, and buy a new house that will be a stretch for their combined incomes.

In this economy.

In Michigan.

Am I wrong to tell them they're crazy?

They live in Michigan. You are too late.

830 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:08:19am

re: #820 realwest

He's the fourth Medal of Honor recipient I've known and they all had two things in common

1) They were psychotic babykillers, and 2) they were duped into serving by the BushHitler War Machine (or its predecessors)!

/moonbat

831 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:08:27am

Mitch McConnell is better... much smarter - than idiots Reid and Schumer.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

832 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:08:32am

re: #817 rawmuse

Agreed. WWII veterans (my dad included) are becoming scarce. I fear "the greatest generation" will be forgotten about by most. What a shame. Of course our fine military are making a huge sacrifice, but I wonder if we had a WWII now... Would we have what it takes like they did?

833 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:08:36am

re: #828 VegasRick

Hairy Red said yesterday that if they didn't pass the "porkulis bill" last night the stock market would crash today. He said that they would work throughout the night to get it passed, then they all left. Scumbag.

I'm sure there are scumbags out there offended by that remark.

834 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:08:51am

re: #823 Leonidas Hoplite

If its this...

booked it dood

835 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:08:56am

re: #824 rawmuse

I played music at the event, there was a room full of men with similar stories. I was privileged to be in the same room, honestly. Also among them was Irving Williams, who was captive with Stockdale, but not as long. Stockdale was a hell of a man.

O would be so uncomfortable in a room w/ real men like those heros,
he would have to run to a grade school and hang out w/ 7 yr. olds to regain his composure.

836 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:09:26am

re: #826 soxfan4life

Especially him. I hold him in contempt.

837 VegasRick  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:09:28am

re: #827 JohnAdams

Thanks. I figured I was right but don't pretend to understand the full impact of what is happening right now. I keep hearing the "D" word (Depression) being tossed around quite a bit more, by seemingly responsible individuals.

Even Mr. Hopenchange. He's saying it without actually saying it. Thanks for calming the waters, boss douchebag. Is this what we meant by "inexperience"?

838 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:10:18am

re: #832 rightside

Agreed. WWII veterans (my dad included) are becoming scarce. I fear "the greatest generation" will be forgotten about by most. What a shame. Of course our fine military are making a huge sacrifice, but I wonder if we had a WWII now... Would we have what it takes like they did?


I think we do, but it takes LEADERS to lead. And that worries me.

839 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:10:44am

re: #835 nyc redneck

O would be so uncomfortable in a room w/ real men like those heros,
he would have to run to a grade school and hang out w/ 7 yr. olds to regain his composure.

Isn't that why he skipped the American Legion Inaugural Ball?

840 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:11:17am

1/20/13

841 Macker  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:11:41am

re: #825 albusteve

I'm in AZ. You?

842 rawmuse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:11:52am

re: #839 soxfan4life

Isn't that why he skipped the American Legion Inaugural Ball?

He did that because he is diametrically opposed to every principle they stand for.

843 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:12:05am

o can only talk on the teleprompter abt. the pork bill.
he is a blathering fool of uh uh uh's, if "his" thoughts are not spelled out for him to read.

844 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:12:08am

re: #836 rightside

Especially him. I hold him in contempt.

Me too, and I live in MA. Amazes me how he gets so many votes.

845 JohnAdams  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:12:56am

re: #838 Nevergiveup

I think we do, but it takes LEADERS to lead. And that worries me.

One thing about a crisis of this magnitude, it will shake out the men from the boys. The rats will run for darkness and the real leaders will be the ones seen cleaning up this mess.

846 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:13:20am

re: #841 Macker

I'm in AZ. You?

I'm in the beautiful, sunny valley of the Rio Grande...Albuquerque

847 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:13:32am

re: #843 nyc redneck

o can only talk on the teleprompter abt. the pork bill.
he is a blathering fool of uh uh uh's, if "his"others thoughts are not spelled out for him to read.

Not sure he's capable of his own thoughts.

848 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:14:03am

re: #845 JohnAdams

One thing about a crisis of this magnitude, it will shake out the men from the boys. The rats will run for darkness and the real leaders will be the ones seen cleaning up this mess.

And the country just voted the rats into office.

849 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:14:28am

From Obama's mentor:

Our intention is to disrupt the empire ... to incapacitate it, to put
pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning
against the people of the world, to join the world struggle, to attack from
the inside.

Our intention is to engage the enemy ... to wear away at him, to
harass him, to isolate him, to expose every weakness, to pounce, to reveal his
vulnerability.

Our intention is to encourage the people ... to provoke leaps in
confidence and consciousness, to stir the imagination, to popularize power,
to agitate, to organize, to join in every way possible the people's day-to-day
struggles.

850 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:14:31am

re: #784 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Yeah he is definitely a dork - and I wouldn't mind that so much if he had a fucking clue as to what he's supposed to be doing as POTUS.
Some big deal - I think Sen. Graham said on Fox last night that Obama had been let down by Pelosi and Reid who handed him a PORK filled Stimulus plan which he didn't realize was so ...unworkable. Graham said Obama shoulda called Pelosi and Reid into the Oval Office and tell them "I won the big victory, I dragged a lot of Dems in with me and the very least you can do is not fuck* up my presidency like this!"
*not an exact quote from Senator Graham.
His point was quite simple: Obama had the highest "approval rating" of any incoming POTUS and the Dems screwed it up by putting together a stimulus bill that contained all the damn Pork that Bush and the Republicans had stiffed them on over the last 8 years or so. And since it was HIS Speaker of the House and HIS Senate Majority leader who put the damn thing together, he had to attack the Republicans for not being "bi-partisan".
Interesting take on this Stimulus Package from Sen. Graham.

851 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:14:53am

Obama's Tardiness Sets Him Apart From Bush
Unlike his predecessor, President Obama has struggled to arrive on time to events and news conferences.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I certain sign of disrespect.

852 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:15:02am

re: #844 soxfan4life

...and I live in MA.

I'm sorry.
/smirk

853 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:15:14am

By the way, I assume y'all have seen the news the A.Q. Khaaan! is walking around a free man today?

854 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:15:25am

Here's another interesting piece on the current mess

There is something desperate about the way economists are clinging to their dogeared copies of Keynes' "General Theory." Uneasily aware that their discipline almost entirely failed to anticipate the current crisis, they seem to be regressing to macroeconomic childhood, clutching the Keynesian "multiplier effect" -- which holds that a dollar spent by the government begets more than a dollar's worth of additional economic output -- like an old teddy bear.

They need to grow up and face the harsh reality: The Western world is suffering a crisis of excessive indebtedness. Governments, corporations and households are groaning under unprecedented debt burdens. Average household debt has reached 141% of disposable income in the United States and 177% in Britain. Worst of all are the banks. Some of the best-known names in American and European finance have liabilities 40, 60 or even 100 times the amount of their capital.

The delusion that a crisis of excess debt can be solved by creating more debt is at the heart of the Great Repression. Yet that is precisely what most governments propose to do.

855 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:15:41am

re: #851 Nevergiveup

ObamaTime

856 rawmuse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:15:51am

re: #853 Occasional Reader

By the way, I assume y'all have seen the news the A.Q. Khaaan! is walking around a free man today?

Could be a trend coming.

857 JohnAdams  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:15:54am

re: #829 red satellite

They live in Michigan. You are too late.

States NOT to be in:

Michigan
New York
California
Illinois
Mass.

Any others I'm missing?

858 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:15:58am

been AWOL with stomach flu

My thoughts on the Robert Gibbs press conference the other day.

This administration doesn't have a fucking clue what they are doing

859 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:16:00am

re: #853 Occasional Reader

By the way, I assume y'all have seen the news the A.Q. Khaaan! is walking around a free man today?

Shhh...

860 VegasRick  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:16:10am

re: #848 Nevergiveup

And 54% of the country just voted the rats into office.

"Don't look at me, I didn't vote for socialism"

861 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:16:21am

Here's a bold fresh new approach from the new RNC head (Steele)

862 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:16:59am

re: #849 faraway

From Obama's mentor:

Our intention is to disrupt the empire ... to incapacitate it, to put
pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning
against the people of the world, to join the world struggle, to attack from
the inside.

Our intention is to engage the enemy ... to wear away at him, to
harass him, to isolate him, to expose every weakness, to pounce, to reveal his
vulnerability.

Our intention is to encourage the people ... to provoke leaps in
confidence and consciousness, to stir the imagination, to popularize power,
to agitate, to organize, to join in every way possible the people's day-to-day
struggles.

What We the People say to Sual Alinksy? FUCK YOU.

863 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:17:06am

re: #857 JohnAdams

States NOT to be in:

Michigan
New York
California
Illinois
Mass.

Any others I'm missing?

new jersey

864 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:17:13am

FRIDAY SEETHE-O-PALOOOZA

I was just handed a document to read. Just to keep me "in the loop" about the workings and report "of the committee". I need a drink.

The DIVERSITY COMMITTEE aaayyyeee they are after me...gaaa...mommmy...make them go awaaay.

865 JCM  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:17:27am

Stimulus: Because all economies have to preform.

866 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:17:27am

re: #853 Occasional Reader

By the way, I assume y'all have seen the news the A.Q. Khaaan! is walking around a free man today?

Well if the Great Satan is letting terrorists go...

867 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:17:33am

re: #852 rightside

I'm sorry.
/smirk

You should see it from my view. Moved up here because of my son. He graduates in June and if all goes right I'll be back in a sane place like TX before the cold weather returns. Of course that won't change the contempt I have for Winter Soldier John Kerry.

868 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:17:40am

re: #857 JohnAdams

States NOT to be in:

Michigan
New York
California
Illinois
Mass.

Any others I'm missing?

51-57

869 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:17:42am

re: #858 Shug

been AWOL with stomach flu

My thoughts on the Robert Gibbs press conference the other day.

This administration doesn't have a fucking clue what they are doing

I'm gonna go back to the metaphor that occurred to me the other day; it's like we're all on an airliner, the cockpit door opens for a moment, and we notice that everyone inside is wearing a clown suit.

870 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:17:47am

UN halts aid to Gaza, cites Hamas disruption

JERUSALEM (AP) — The U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees said Friday it has halted all aid shipments into the Gaza Strip due to interference by the ruling Hamas militant group.

The U.N. Relief and Works agency said it made the decision after Hamas personnel intercepted an aid shipment for the second time this week.

In a statement, UNRWA said 10 truckloads of flour and rice that had been delivered into Gaza on Thursday were taken away by trucks affiliated with the Hamas-run Ministry of Social Affairs. Earlier this week, Hamas police took thousands of blankets and food parcels meant for needy residents.

UNRWA said the suspension would remain in effect until the aid is returned and the agency receives credible assurances from the Hamas government that such thefts will end. There was no immediate reaction from Hamas.

871 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:17:56am

re: #851 Nevergiveup

Obama's Tardiness Sets Him Apart From Bush
Unlike his predecessor, President Obama has struggled to arrive on time to events and news conferences.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

I certain sign of disrespect.

Another sign of a narcissist, also.

872 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:18:02am

re: #794 lawhawk Good morning lawhawk! I don't understand how that little son of a bitch keeps getting re-elected - either as Republican, Independent or Dem. I just don't get it at all.

873 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:18:05am

British Muslim MP Calls For Arrest Of British Citizens Who Served In IDF


I wonder just when Keith Ellison will make the same play here?

874 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:18:25am

re: #864 WriterMom

FRIDAY SEETHE-O-PALOOOZA

Sounds like you've converted reverted to Islam.

875 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:19:07am

re: #863 albusteve

new jersey


Who was it that said only relatives live in New Jersey?

876 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:19:18am

I'm sure someone else dropped this in up-thread, but just in case:

UNWRA suspends aid to Gaza after hamas rips em off again

MSM? Crickets

877 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:19:38am

re: #875 soxfan4life

Who was it that said only relatives live in New Jersey?

Mine

878 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:19:48am

re: #857 JohnAdams

Don't forget DI and its toe in the door in Texas, Louisiana, Kansas.

879 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:19:57am

re: #873 Dustyvet

British Muslim MP Calls For Arrest Of British Citizens Who Served In IDF


I wonder just when Keith Ellison will make the same play here?

Gah.

Source?

880 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:19:57am

re: #853 Occasional Reader

By the way, I assume y'all have seen the news the A.Q. Khaaan! is walking around a free man today?

Doesn't the Indian military / secret ops have people who can "settle" him?

881 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:20:03am

re: #873 Dustyvet

British Muslim MP Calls For Arrest Of British Citizens Who Served In IDF

I wonder just when Keith Ellison will make the same play here?

And take out (or take on) Rahm Emanuel? Unlikely.

882 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:20:16am

This is going to be interesting...
UNRWA suspends Gaza aid after Hamas steals supplies

Will Hamas go apeshit on UNWRA?

883 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:20:18am

re: #870 NJDhockeyfan

UN halts aid to Gaza, cites Hamas disruption

family feud...

884 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:20:40am

re: #861 jwb7605

Here's a bold fresh new approach from the new RNC head (Steele)


Great start. His second move should be to announce loud and clear that ANY Republican that votes for the stimulus bill,as it is, will get absolutely no funding from the RNC.

885 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:20:54am

re: #869 Occasional Reader

Reminds me of the story about the Russian passengers sensing their pilot was drunk, he had red eyes, and was slurring his words. The flight crew (Aeroflot, I believe) tried to reassure the passengers that he wasn't drunk, and even if he was-it was no big deal, because the plane practically flies itself on autopilot.

The Russian passengers revolted, and got themselves a new pilot after several hours on the ground.

Americans, it seems are not as lucky as the Russian travellers.

The Obama administration is basically saying "hey-don't worry, this thing practically flies itself".

886 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:21:02am

re: #853 Occasional Reader

By the way, I assume y'all have seen the news the A.Q. Khaaan! is walking around a free man today?

Yes. Is he staying in Pakistan or going to Iran?
Or maybe he's had enough Iranian visitors over the years that they can let him go.
I hope he's next to Ahmadinejad during a visit to a nuclear facility when there is an accident.

887 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:21:08am

re: #880 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Doesn't the Indian military / secret ops have people who can "settle" him?

You'd be surprised how many people are killed in accidents in their own homes. Skiing accidents, for instance.

/

888 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:21:21am

re: #879 Occasional Reader

Gah.

Source?

[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

889 VegasRick  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:21:32am

re: #884 n in wi

Great start. His second move should be to announce loud and clear that ANY Republican that votes for the stimulus bill,as it is, will get absolutely no funding from the RNC.

I like that idea. Upding.

890 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:21:44am

re: #875 soxfan4life

Who was it that said only relatives live in New Jersey?

I have a good friend up who pays astronomical property taxes...it's killing him

891 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:21:46am

re: #804 Taqiyyotomist
Respectfully, PINMF - I can barely think and type fast enough as it is to keep up with all y'all, who the hell has time to preview? Next thing is you'll suggest using Spell check, too!
:)

892 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:21:49am

re: #882 Killgore Trout

This is going to be interesting...
UNRWA suspends Gaza aid after Hamas steals supplies

Will Hamas go apeshit on UNWRA?

Meanwhile at UNWRA headquarters . . ."hmmm. . . .how can we blame this on Israel?"

893 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:21:57am

re: #883 albusteve

family feud...

Survey says - X!

894 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:21:57am

re: #873 Dustyvet

Yes, I saw that. It was a Muslim guy-IMAGINE THAT?

I bet he is equally concerned about Pakistani, err...I mean "Asians" fighting for Al Qeida. Yup. Uhhh huhhh..

895 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:21:58am

re: #887 Occasional Reader

You'd be surprised how many people are killed in accidents in their own homes. Skiing accidents, for instance.

/

Yes, I think it was Whittaker Chamber's Soviet contact who said that any fool could do a murder, but it took a real artist to do a nice, natural death.

896 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:22:10am

Hamas said it was a "mistake"...

Gaza aid seized 'by mistake' to be returned to UN: Hamas

GAZA CITY (AFP) — UN aid supplies seized "by mistake" will be returned, Hamas said on Friday after a UN agency threatened to halt importing aid into the Gaza Strip over the incident.

The Hamas government's social affairs minister ordered "the aid to be returned to the agency if it turns out it is indeed its property," Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhum said.

"The aid supplies were loaded onto trucks by mistake as no government representative was present," at the crossing where the supplies were brought in from Israel, he added.

Hamas is a mistake.

897 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:22:12am

re: #864 WriterMom

Just tell them you're a Republican and a conservative. They're sure to throw you off the "Diversity committee."

898 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:22:19am

re: #885 WriterMom

Reminds me of the story about the Russian passengers sensing their pilot was drunk, he had red eyes, and was slurring his words. The flight crew (Aeroflot, I believe) tried to reassure the passengers that he wasn't drunk, and even if he was-it was no big deal, because the plane practically flies itself on autopilot.

The Russian passengers revolted, and got themselves a new pilot after several hours on the ground.

Americans, it seems are not as lucky as the Russian travellers.

The Obama administration is basically saying "hey-don't worry, this thing practically flies itself".

too big to fail.
like the titanic.

899 JCM  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:22:20am

re: #891 realwest

Respectfully, PINMF - I can barely think and type fast enough as it is to keep up with all y'all, who the hell has time to preview? Next thing is you'll suggest using Spell check, too!
:)

PIFW!

Morning Real!

900 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:22:28am

re: #887 Occasional Reader

You'd be surprised how many people are killed in accidents in their own homes. Skiing accidents, for instance.

/

"Everyone's slipping on soap around here!"
The Dirty Dozen

901 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:22:28am

re: #886 Kosh's Shadow

Yes. Is he staying in Pakistan or going to Iran?
Or maybe he's had enough Iranian visitors over the years that they can let him go.
I hope he's next to Ahmadinejad during a visit to a nuclear facility when there is an accident.

Hey since the liberals made us get rid of Musharaff, how's that working out?

902 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:22:41am

excellent comments here today

903 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:22:48am

re: #857 JohnAdams

States NOT to be in:

Michigan
New York
California
Illinois
Mass.

Any others I'm missing?

No idea why Arizona looks good to some folks. Those morons have speed cameras on their freeways. Something missing from Michigan and Illinois.

904 bellamags  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:22:57am

re: #828 VegasRick

Hairy Red said yesterday that if they didn't pass the "porkulis bill" last night the stock market would crash today. He said that they would work throughout the night to get it passed, then they all left. Scumbag.

That MF'er is a disgrace.

905 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:23:05am

re: #870 NJDhockeyfan

the suspension would remain in effect until the aid is returned and the agency receives credible assurances from the Hamas government that such thefts will end.

HAHAAAHAHAHAHAHHAA

906 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:23:16am

re: #880 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Doesn't the Indian military / secret ops have people who can "settle" him?

I hope so. Let them use the Russian technique. Put something radioactive in his food.

907 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:23:23am

re: #903 Honorary Yooper

No idea why Arizona looks good to some folks. Those morons have speed cameras on their freeways. Something missing from Michigan and Illinois.

Minnesota...:(

908 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:23:28am

re: #867 soxfan4life

I lived in the gulag that is new york. Fortunately, I had enough sense to join the Navy, and retire elsewhere. Confiscatory tax rates in Erie county. Abject fiscal mismanagement. Incompetent people in charge at every level of gubmint. Epic Failure of colossal proportions.

...but if you have a D next to your name, you are their only hope to survive.

909 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:24:02am

re: #897 Killgore Trout

I will express my commitment to diversity of political opinion-and if they don't like it, well they can shooove it.

910 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:24:04am

UNRWA headquarters under rocket and mortar attack!

911 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:24:23am

re: #909 WriterMom

I will express my commitment to diversity of political opinion-and if they don't like it, well they can shooove it.

they ain't gonna like that!

912 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:24:47am

re: #817 rawmuse Wow, cool - do you remember any of their names or do you feel "uncomfortable" revealing what he said in a private conversation with you?

913 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:24:56am

re: #906 Kosh's Shadow

I hope so. Let them use the Russian technique. Put something radioactive in his food.

Or something cooked in bad ghee. That'll take down a charging rhino.

914 VegasRick  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:25:23am

obambi whinning like a little bitch.

915 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:25:38am
916 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:25:45am

every time he opens his pork hole the stock market goes down.

917 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:25:57am

re: #914 VegasRick

Tell us how you really feel.

918 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:26:02am

re: #908 rightside

...but if you have a D next to your name, you are their only hope to survive.

Not sure one could ever be clean after something like that

919 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:26:20am

re: #766 oronpam

Doesn't Obama remind you of a high school class president that promises to get vending machines in the cafeteria; or vote for me and all your wildest dreams will come true (Vote for Pedro).

Does he know what he is doing? Going to be a long four years!

Hah! Summer Weatley promised to get Glitter Machines for the Girl's Bathroom!

920 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:26:22am

re: #916 nyc redneck

Rush was right!

921 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:26:28am

re: #914 VegasRick

obambi whinning like a little bitch.

Is he talking again?

Man, I miss a tough talking, man of action in charge...

922 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:27:01am

re: #906 Kosh's Shadow

I hope so. Let them use the Russian technique. Put something radioactive in his food.

Or, if he's eating in Pakistan, put some food in his isotopes; either one'll do the job./

923 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:27:05am

Olbermann: Cheney doing the work of terrorists
The former V.P. is using fear mongering and lies to manipulate Americans


Yup, we is fucked.

924 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:27:20am

re: #828 VegasRick

Hairy Red said yesterday that if they didn't pass the "porkulis bill" last night the stock market would crash today. He said that they would work throughout the night to get it passed, then they all left. Scumbag.

Does anyone really get scared by talk of a crash anymore? The stock markets have already crashed...and crashed...and crashed!
Maybe they need a new term for it, like "fucking croaked" or "took a long fucking walk off a short fucking pier".

925 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:27:58am

I was disgusted with the whiny blama game President Obama used last night.

Sir, perhaps you've forgotten : THE BUCK STOPS HERE

Stop bitching about deficits, while you are increasing them

926 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:28:08am

economic recovery advisory board---is the bullshit Volker was bitching and moaning about the other day

927 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:28:36am

Stimulis - because all economies have performance issues... BWAHAHA

928 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:28:43am

obama to the economy...you frigid bitch

929 VegasRick  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:28:45am

re: #924 Spare O'Lake

Does anyone really get scared by talk of a crash anymore? The stock markets have already crashed...and crashed...and crashed!
Maybe they need a new term for it, like "fucking croaked" or "took a long fucking walk off a short fucking pier".

Maximum fucking croaked?

930 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:28:55am

Greetings Comrades!

Do we have the running dog capitalists seeking the shelter from the storm of a proletarian uprising today?

Are we sharing anecdotes about the glorious struggle of the long march to bring our great leader to power?

/ ooops - thought I was posting to dKos. Sorry about that.

931 SFGoth  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:29:12am

Thought I'd pass on some non-political Americana: Herb Hamrol, last known survivor of the S.F. quake of 1906 died yesterday, age 106. Worked until a week ago when he developed pneumonia. Inspiring story, even if it is the Comicle. [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

932 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:29:16am

re: #896 NJDhockeyfan

It was a mistake only because they got caught and UNRWA squawked.

933 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:29:22am

By the way... You know what I feel about Obama from his words and BS over the last few days...

He is voting 'Present'

934 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:29:27am

VDH

...

For two years the media and the Left transmogrified a bright and talented, though inexperienced, Chicago pol (who needed at least a half-decade of seasoning in the Senate) into some sort of divine totem in which they could invest all their hopes and seek penance for all their purported sins. They are now learning in just 15 days that scoring points against George Bush on the campaign trail and offering soaring platitudes with Reverend Wright cadences were not the same as governing the United States. In the same hysterical fashion that many hated George Bush, so they deified Barack Obama—and I expect, when disappointed, will begin to turn on the fallen prophet Obama as well.
935 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:29:40am

Hamas logic

Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhoum called UNRWA's decision to suspend its aid to Gaza due to Hamas' theft of supplies "unjustified."


He said Hamas supports UNRWA's work, but believes that some of the agency's employees were giving aid to groups attached to rival political parties. "We as Hamas refuse all use of the people's needs for political ends," he said. He called on UNRWA "to put an end to using aid for political means, and to distribute it to all the needy equally." (AP)

except those that support our rivals.
We are the democratically elected gov't, and everybody else can go shove it, Mr. Barhoum added.

//

936 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:29:45am

The crisis we are facing today does not require of us the kind of sacrifice that Martin Treptow and so many thousands of others were called upon to make. It does require, however, our best effort, and our willingness to believe in ourselves and to believe in our capacity to perform great deeds; to believe that together, with God's help, we can and will resolve the problems which now confront us.

And, after all, why shouldn't we believe that? We are Americans. God bless you, and thank you.

Ronald Wilson Reagan
First Inaugural Address
(February 6, 1911 – June 5, 2004)
Happy Birthday Mr. President.

937 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:29:49am

re: #926 Nevergiveup

economic recovery advisory board---is the bullshit Volker was bitching and moaning about the other day

YAY! More government!

938 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:30:12am

re: #933 tfc3rid

By the way... You know what I feel about Obama from his words and BS over the last few days...

He is voting 'Present'


except he ain't

939 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:30:18am

1st rule: “Always try to see your opponent’s cards.”

— Luigi Barzini, an Italian. 1964

(from his book, "The Italians")

940 rawmuse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:30:45am

re: #912 realwest

Wow, cool - do you remember any of their names or do you feel "uncomfortable" revealing what he said in a private conversation with you?

Brady spoke of a man who he ferried in to combat. He was a medic he served with who repeatedly ran through multiple mine fields to retrieve the wounded, in complete disregard for his own safety. He eventually stepped on a mine. Brady just called him Pappy.

941 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:30:48am

re: #934 FrogMarch

and I expect, when disappointed, will begin to turn on the fallen prophet Obama as well.

"Behold! A god who bleeds!"

-Everything come back to Star Trek TOS eventually

942 SFGoth  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:31:12am

re: #767 jwb7605

My younger daughter lost her brakes one winter when she was 17 -- a chunk of road ice came up and severed the brake line (not much you can do about that!).

She managed to get to the shoulder, 'glide' the vehicle on the ice, and ended up taking out a road sign in the ditch, which brought her to a stop.

I paid for the damages. She asked my why I was doing that. I told her "you did the absolute best job you could, kept your head, didn't cause any more accidents, and ended up hitting something cheap".

There are flip-side reactions.

Awesome!

943 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:31:42am

re: #941 Occasional Reader

"Behold! A god who bleeds!"

-Everything come back to Star Trek TOS eventually

I thought everything comes back to the "Godfather"?

944 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:32:08am

[Link: arthurshall.com...]

choose your weapon...look at that bad ass 870...

945 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:32:14am

re: #925 Shug

I was disgusted with the whiny blama game President Obama used last night.

Sir, perhaps you've forgotten : THE BUCK STOPS HERE

Stop bitching about deficits, while you are increasing them

Wanna lay odds on when he will pulls out the race card to get the stimulus bill passed?
Something like,urban areas are suffering disproportionately, or inner-city youths need funding.
/Like welfare recipients are interested in job creation.

946 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:32:39am

re: #943 Nevergiveup

I thought everything comes back to the "Godfather"?

Monty Python and The Simpsons.

947 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:32:51am

re: #939 Ojoe

I'm feeling the need for a little Machiavelli.

948 jester6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:33:00am

re: #857 JohnAdams

Ohio. Unfortunately my home for the next 10 years.

949 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:33:09am

Obama's Foreign Policy: Free Terrorists, Jail Former Presidents

950 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:33:23am

re: #934 FrogMarch

I just looove VDH.

951 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:33:38am

re: #824 rawmuse I can imagine how you felt. First time Buddy took me to dinner I was just...I don't know how to explain it, he was just another guy, you know? And when he thanked ME for helping to set up that charity I just was dumbstruck - here's a Medal of Honor winner thanking ME!?!
Although he did tell me that every year they have a Medal of Honor Recipients dinner and the first one he was at,( he was teaching at West Point at the time) he was running around the room saying things like "Gee Admiral Rickover, could I have your autograph" and Gee so and so can I have your autograph until another MoH winner literally grabbed Buddy by the collar, pulled him to one side and said "Son, we are all equal here. Asking for autographs is just WRONG." Buddy stopped asking for autographs but found himself unable to speak to some of his fellow MoH winners, he was in such awe of them!

952 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:33:45am

re: #945 n in wi

True story... I can see it. It's coming...

Think of the poor, like Nancy Rodriguez and her 3 kids... They need help... Etc., etc...

I can see it during his speech on Monday night...

953 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:34:02am

re: #943 Nevergiveup

I thought everything comes back to the "Godfather"?

I thought everything came back to Superman?

954 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:34:27am

The next President will have some interesting reading material looking through the archives of the Obama era

955 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:34:53am

re: #950 WriterMom

I just looove VDH.

Here is his latest...

Victor Davis Hanson: Road maps to Middle East peace lead nowhere

With much fanfare, President Barack Obama announced a new effort to end the endless Israeli-Palestinian struggle — by naming a brand-new Middle East envoy, former Sen. George Mitchell.

The announcement was underwhelming, to say the least. For 40 years, we've seen such serial envoys, communiqués and peace conferences — and the little that followed.

Can anyone distinguish Annapolis, Beirut, Camp David, Geneva, Madrid, Oslo, Taba or Wye River — and all the other places that hosted much-heralded but failed meetings that we can no longer even recall?

Then there are the billions of dollars (well over $100 billion) and euros for peace given by the United States and Europe to Egypt, Israel, Jordan and the Palestinians over the last half-century. Not to mention all those ballyhooed United Nations decrees — Resolutions 242, 338, 1397, 1515 and others — likewise lost to our collective memory.

The Israeli withdrawal from Sinai nearly 30 years ago was supposed to have led to a general peace. So was the withdrawal from Lebanon. So was the withdrawal from Gaza.

956 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:35:08am

re: #953 pink freud

I thought everything came back to Superman?

What did Superman ever say that is so memorable except "Shit Kryptonite"?

957 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:35:11am

re: #954 faraway

The next President will have some interesting reading material looking through the archives of the Obama era

They will be shielded like the Clinton documents...

958 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:35:17am

re: #953 pink freud

I thought everything came back to Superman?

Nah, Everything comes back to the Spirit...but then I'm older then dirt...:)

959 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:35:19am

re: #953 pink freud

I thought everything came back to Superman?

Everything was all an accident (haha for you science nuts)

960 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:35:21am

re: #944 albusteve

[Link: arthurshall.com...]

choose your weapon...look at that bad ass 870...

Manly...
(feeling dissed he left mine out)

961 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:35:34am

re: #954 faraway

Let's hope they don't literally transcribe every verbal connector, uhh, umm, err, etc.

It might take more than 4 years to read it all.

962 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:36:03am

re: #832 rightside Yes, we would. I'm constantly amazed that this Nation has always found the men and women willing to do what has to be done for America, no matter how shoddily they may be treated during and after the war(s).

963 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:36:06am
964 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:36:13am

re: #954 faraway

The next President will have some interesting reading material looking through the archives of the Obama era

Written in crayon

965 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:36:13am

re: #953 pink freud

I thought everything came back to Superman?

What or who is Obama's Kryptonite?

966 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:36:14am

re: #946 Guanxi88

Monty Python and The Simpsons.

And Star Wars.

967 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:36:44am

re: #952 tfc3rid

True story... I can see it. It's coming...

Think of the poor, like Nancy Rodriguez and her 3 kids... They need help... Etc., etc...

I can see it during his speech on Monday night...

A speech monday night?
He better not go up against the Jack Bauer time slot or he'll get his ass kicked in the ratings.

968 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:36:52am

re: #965 faraway

What or who is Obama's Kryptonite?

Blago?

969 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:37:07am

re: #960 jcm

Manly...
(feeling dissed he left mine out)

a modified SKS?...what you call that beast?

970 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:37:08am

re: #921 tfc3rid

Is he talking again?

Man, I miss a tough talking, man of action in charge...

or sarah palin, she looks like such a good choice compared to the cupcake we have. she would not be pushing this pork bill and she would not be begging head choppers to unclinch their fists.

971 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:37:11am

re: #966 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And Star Wars.

Tom Corbett Space Cadet...:)

972 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:37:31am

re: #965 faraway

What or who is Obama's Kryptonite?

Common sense

973 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:38:25am

re: #950 WriterMom

re: #955 NJDhockeyfan

me too.

974 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:38:37am

re: #967 n in wi

Monday Primetime he plans on an address... Probably going to bitch about the capitalist pigs some more...

975 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:38:37am

re: #857 JohnAdams
Minnesota and Wisconsin.

976 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:38:55am

re: #943 Nevergiveup

I thought everything comes back to the "Godfather"?

When you talk Chicago politics, it always does.

977 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:38:58am

re: #971 Dustyvet

Tom Corbett Space Cadet...:)

Sky King, his niece Penny and the Song Bird...:)

978 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:39:24am

re: #974 tfc3rid

Monday Primetime he plans on an address... Probably going to bitch about the capitalist pigs some more...

Nonstop campaign - it's the only way he knows how to work.

979 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:39:52am

re: #975 realwest

Minnesota and Wisconsin.

At least those folks know how to drive in the snow.

980 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:40:04am

re: #977 Dustyvet

Sky King, his niece Penny and the Song Bird...:)

That's an old one- Sky King and Penny. Think there was any hanky panky going on there?

981 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:40:10am

re: #966 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Also FUTURAMA

982 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:40:16am

re: #978 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Nonstop campaign - it's the only way he knows how to work.

I think he figures that if he gets his face out there and talks more and more, just like being on the campaign, he will regain his popularity...

983 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:40:33am

re: #969 albusteve

a modified SKS?...what you call that beast?

Springfield M1/M14 in a Troy chassis.

984 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:40:41am

re: #971 Dustyvet

Tom Corbett Space Cadet...:)

Mark Time, star detective of the Circumsolar Federation

985 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:40:52am

re: #870 NJDhockeyfan

UN halts aid to Gaza, cites Hamas disruption

Then Gaza will have very long wait for aid. My view: The UN should make resumption of air contingent on the destruction of Hamas. Hamas will steal from and misuse the UN as long as is it exist, and if the UN wasn't so anti-Jew, it would understand this. Again I say:

Hamas Delenda Est.

986 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:40:57am

re: #947 WriterMom

I'm feeling the need for a little Machiavelli.

Let me recommend Harvey Mansfield's "Machiavelli's Virtue". Good stuff, very solid; or, if you'd like, Leo Strauss "Thoughts on Machiavelli." of the two, go with Strauss first - he lays bare the truth of modernity, and shows the great success of machiavelli's revolution in thought - a revolution so successful, that we barely even notice it.

987 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:04am

re: #978 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Nonstop campaign - it's the only way he knows how to work.

he looked quite agitated last nite when speaking...they were cheering him along but he was angry his message wasn't welcomed by us, the unclean masses...

988 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:06am

re: #914 VegasRick

Not presidential to whine.

989 redstateredneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:10am

re: #977 Dustyvet

Sky King, his niece Penny and the Song Bird...:)

My fave show! I was so jealous of Penny.

990 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:17am

re: #954 faraway

The next President will have some interesting reading material looking through the archives of the Obama era

Dear Diary,
Today I hid under the desk in the oval office. They can't see me in here.
I wish I could go shoot some hoops, but the staff knows I might be there>
Last time they found me I told them to go ask Joe. I was taken back when Rahm asked,"Joe Biden, or Joe The Plummer?"

991 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:18am

The Dow is up over 2% on the day so far, so it's about time for the Messiah op say we are on the edge of catastrophe again.

By the way, the market just climbed back up to where it was when the Messiah was sworn in.

992 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:18am

re: #955 NJDhockeyfan

Awesome.

993 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:19am

re: #965 faraway

What or who is Obama's Kryptonite?

The Constitution of the United States and the American Flag

994 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:20am

re: #967 n in wi

A speech monday night?
He better not go up against the Jack Bauer time slot or he'll get his ass kicked in the ratings.

Any bets that this will be when The One drops an f-bomb on live TV?

995 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:24am

re: #965 faraway

What or who is Obama's Kryptonite?

whatever disables a teleprompter

996 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:54am

re: #980 Nevergiveup

That's an old one- Sky King and Penny. Think there was any hanky panky going on there?

Ya know ginger ale through the nose is not a lot of fun...:)

997 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:57am

re: #978 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Nonstop campaign - it's the only way he knows how to work.

Except that Obama's campaign promises are turning to bunk before our eyes.

Obama's actions now show just how deceptive he was then. On the campaign trail, Obama repeatedly lied to the American people about his economic plans. He lied about his commitment to clean, transparent government. He lied about his willingness to work in a bipartisan fashion. Obama is not even pretending he meant what he said then.

998 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:41:58am

re: #965 faraway

What or who is Obama's Kryptonite?

Since Kryptonite makes a strong man weak and since the zero is ...well, the zero, I retract my analogy.

999 redstateredneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:42:09am

re: #980 Nevergiveup

That's an old one- Sky King and Penny. Think there was any hanky panky going on there?

She was his niece!

1000 Macker  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:42:16am

re: #903 Honorary Yooper

No idea why Arizona looks good to some folks. Those morons have speed cameras on their freeways. Something missing from Michigan and Illinois.

Put in by Crappy Nappy when she reneged on her campaign promise to put more Cops on the road. There is pending legislation to get rid of them. Pinal County (Tucson) has already gotten rid of them.
Hang in there.

1001 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:42:27am

re: #978 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Nonstop campaign - it's the only way he knows how to avoid actual work.

Fixed that for ya.

1002 oronpam  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:42:47am

re: #919 DeafDog

Hah! Summer Weatley promised to get Glitter Machines for the Girl's Bathroom!

Don't worry, I'm sure the glitter machines are in the porkulus bill somewhere.

1003 Ben Hur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:42:49am

Democrats: Beware of Michael Steele By Bob Beckel

Bob Beckel. Racist.

1004 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:42:56am

re: #983 jcm

Springfield M1/M14 in a Troy chassis.

was a wild guess...Ive seen pictures of that piece and the clip looks very familiar...very nice...sorta keeps em at arms length

1005 WriterMom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:43:02am

re: #990 n in wi

ROFL!

1006 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:43:05am

re: #944 albusteve

[Link: arthurshall.com...]

choose your weapon...look at that bad ass 870...

My #3 and #5 on that list pretty much covers all my real and imagined needs.

1007 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:43:08am

re: #873 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty! How are you doing today? Uh, when you get a chance, please check your e-mail!

1008 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:43:38am

re: #983 jcm

Springfield M1/M14 in a Troy chassis.

Is this the tactical rail that launched a thousand ships?

1009 soxfan4life  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:43:41am

re: #976 Honorary Yooper

When you talk Chicago politics, it always does.

Come on now, you know the Corleones had much more ethics than a Chicago politician

1010 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:43:56am

re: #1006 jwb7605

My #3 and #5 on that list pretty much covers all my real and imagined needs.

I've got a #10 and a #2; I feel much the same.

1011 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:44:11am

re: #997 FrogMarch


more...

In only three weeks, Obama has managed to undermine many of the central tenets of his claim to represent hope and change. He has gone from promising to bring "an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn-out dogmas..." to using arguments like "I won," and the worn-out campaign rhetoric he threw to the Democrats last night.
1012 quickjustice  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:44:20am

The three oldest lies (humor):

1. The check is in the mail.
2. I'll respect you in the morning.
3. I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you. ;-)

1013 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:44:33am

re: #981 Ojoe

Also FUTURAMA

Bender: "I can't see what's happening. Are we boned?"
Leela: "Yeah. We're boned."

1014 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:44:40am

re: #994 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Any bets that this will be when The One drops an f-bomb on live TV?

"I am so tired of these motherf***n' Republicans in my motherf***n' Congress!"

1015 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:44:48am

re: #1007 realwest

Hey Dusty! How are you doing today? Uh, when you get a chance, please check your e-mail!

Will do... and thanks...

1016 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:44:48am

re: #990 n in wi

Hey, are you Obama's speech writer?

1017 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:45:14am

re: #1009 soxfan4life

Way more ethics. If they said something you knew they meant it. That is why Don Vito was the Don.

1018 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:45:37am

re: #1004 albusteve

Ive seen pictures of that piece and the clip

[giving albusteve stern, scolding look]

1019 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:45:50am

re: #1006 jwb7605

My #3 and #5 on that list pretty much covers all my real and imagined needs.

I like #8.

1020 redstateredneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:45:51am

re: #1012 quickjustice

The three oldest lies (humor):

1. The check is in the mail.
2. I'll respect you in the morning.
3. I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you. ;-)


#4 Size doesn't matter.
;-)

1021 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:46:41am

re: #1014 Occasional Reader

"I am so tired of these motherf***n' Republicans in my motherf***n' Congress!"

Shut yo mouth!
But I'm talkin' bout the Republicans.
Then we can dig it.
/all things come back to Shaft

1022 Macker  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:47:27am

re: #1021 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I think that was a referral to Snakes on a Plane.

1023 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:47:33am

re: #1020 redstateredneck

#4 Size doesn't matter.
;-)

#5 No, that dress doesn't make you look fat.

1024 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:47:42am

re: #978 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Nonstop campaign - it's the only way he knows how to work.

Campaign.

If you wanna piss and pout, you've got to take Reps out; campaign.
If you wanna get warm, warm in the Office; campaign.
He does lie, he does lie, he does lie; campaign.

If you got bad news, you wanna kick them blues; campaign.
When your day is done and you wanna run; campaign.
He does lie, he does lie, he does lie; campaign.

If your bill is gone and you wanna whine on; campaign.
Don't forget this fact, you can't get it back; campaign.
He does lie, he does lie, he does lie; campaign.

He does lie, he does lie, he does lie; campaign.

1025 redstateredneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:47:58am
Today marks the 59th anniversary of President Ronald Wilson Reagan's 39th birthday, as he would have put it. We remember Reagan for his extraordinary leadership, wit and wisdom -- and for living the quintessential success story.


Happy Birthday to the Gipper. RIP.
How we miss you.

1026 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:48:13am

re: #1022 Macker

I think that was a referral to Snakes on a Plane.

It's all good in the hood.

1027 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:48:14am

re: #899 JCM
Good morning JCM! How are you doing today?

1028 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:48:24am

re: #944 albusteve

[Link: arthurshall.com...]

choose your weapon...look at that bad ass 870...

From your link:

However, the only acceptable [autopistol] caliber for a man to carry is .45 ACP.

Booyah!

1029 redstateredneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:48:38am

re: #1023 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

#5 No, that dress doesn't make you look fat.

Touche'.

1030 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:49:01am

re: #1019 FrogMarch

I like #8.

My son-in-law has one. You're right about that.
I saw his qualifying group. Amazingly accurate for a 1911A1 clone!

1031 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:49:05am

re: #1020 redstateredneck

#4 Size doesn't matter.
;-)

1032 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:49:19am

re: #1018 Occasional Reader

[giving albusteve stern, scolding look]

Maybe he should read a magazine & know the difference?

1033 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:49:30am

Actually, there was nothing before Bond. James Bond. Now there's Pussy Galore.

1034 jcbunga  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:49:43am

OK, time for a joke as the country drives off a cliff:

A cardiologist died and was given an elaborate funeral. A huge heart
covered in flowers stood behind the casket during the service.

Following the eulogy, the heart opened, and the casket rolled inside.
The heart then closed, sealing the doctor in the beautiful heart
forever.

At that point, one of the mourners burst into laughter. When all eyes
stared at him, he said, 'I'm sorry, I was just thinking of my own
funeral...I'm a gynecologist.'

The proctologist fainted.

1035 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:50:20am
1036 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:50:53am

re: #999 redstateredneck

She was his niece!

So they say?

1037 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:50:54am

re: #1028 Occasional Reader

Booyah!

I thought the same thing for many years.
I ended up shaving 0.01" from the caliber and adding the term "magnum".

1038 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:51:05am

re: #1028 Occasional Reader

From your link:

However, the only acceptable [autopistol] caliber for a man to carry is .45 ACP.

Booyah!

There was a great exchange in the season opener of The Unit:
"Why do you carry a .45 instead of a 9mm?"
"Which would you rather be shot with?"

1039 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:51:16am

re: #1028 Occasional Reader

Booyah!

However, I've only fired exactly half the weapons on that list. Clearly, I have my work cut out for me.

1040 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:51:30am

re: #1012 quickjustice

The three oldest lies (humor):

1. The check is in the mail.
2. I'll respect you in the morning.
3. I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you. ;-)

I promise I will not come

1041 redstateredneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:51:34am

re: #1031 Dustyvet

Now that was kinky.

1042 bellamags  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:52:04am

I am noticing a pick up in my business. Tax money possibly. Some of my customers own small businesses also and they have seen a small increase. One gentleman in the business of doors and windows was just given his full salary back.
My father's business on the other hand is on a freeze and he is having to downsize. He does contract work for a large aluminum company. They have put all new projects on hold. My landlord has told me also he can't rent any space even if he was giving it away. He had two of the larger storefronts rented and they both pulled out, stating all new stores on hold until mid '09.
Also on Neil Cavuto last night they were comparing the sales at Aeropostale (14% increase) and Gap (23% decrease) from last year. I can tell you why. The clothes at Gap, The Limited and Express are HORRIBLE (IMO). I have never seen such disgusting new fashion EVER. Aeropostale, CUTE. I am finding myself looking at the racks from last year or shopping at the more juvenile clothing stores.

1043 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:52:23am

re: #1032 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Maybe he should read a magazine & know the difference?

I've set albusteve out to run around the parade ground 50 laps, shouting:

This is my magazine
this is my clip
the one is for fighting
the other's for zip

1044 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:52:34am

re: #1035 FrogMarch

The New Hope and Change Obama Democrat Union Work Ethic.

doesn't "work ethic" involve work ?

1045 quickjustice  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:52:42am

re: #994 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

President Obama shocked my elderly mother when he said he "screwed up". She already had been offended by Limbaugh's choosing the same phrase. She thinks it low class. What she thinks about him waving his third finger around during his speeches remains to be seen!

1046 Silhouette  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:52:50am

re: #967 n in wi

A speech monday night?
He better not go up against the Jack Bauer time slot or he'll get his ass kicked in the ratings.

Yeah, but knowing Jack, he'll step aside, blink a few times, and say, "After you, Mr. President."

1047 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:52:54am

re: #1044 Shug

doesn't "work ethic" involve work ?

Ooh, and ethics, don't forget ethics.

1048 yma o hyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:53:04am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are things today?

1049 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:53:22am

re: #1027 realwest

Good morning JCM! How are you doing today?

Busy, 16 hour work day yesterday, engineers make a mess, the techs clean up!

1050 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:53:39am

re: #1031 Dustyvet

He was charged with artificial insemination

1051 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:53:40am

re: #1048 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are things today?

Well Obama is still President so...

1052 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:53:44am

re: #1048 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are things today?

Eggs in the coffee, that's how they are.

1053 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:53:50am

re: #1003 Ben Hur

Democrats: Beware of Michael Steele By Bob Beckel

Bob Beckel. Racist.

Sorry, Ben, but I didn't get one whiff of racism from that op-ed. It struck me as a clear-eyed analysis of a political opponent, written by someone who has know Steele for a long time. I disagree with Bob Beckel on just about everything policy-wise, but he does hit the mark here.

1054 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:54:01am

re: #1041 redstateredneck

Now that was kinky.

But dumb...

1055 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:54:06am

re: #1037 jwb7605

I thought the same thing for many years.
I ended up shaving 0.01" from the caliber and adding the term "magnum".

Note that I *did* specify "autopistol".

(Yes, I know there are .44 magnum autopistols, but I mean... really. That just reeks of "trying too hard".)

1056 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:54:13am

re: #1047 Guanxi88

Ooh, and ethics, don't forget ethics.

Nice call! That would make it read

"" involves work.

It's in the stimulus bill somewhere ...

1057 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:54:17am

re: #1006 jwb7605

They left out the 1873 Remington lever action

1058 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:54:22am

Morning all. Loved Jonah Goldberg's column today;

The Great Overreach

My favorite lines:

This was the time when we, as Americans, were going to have our cake and eat it too. Future generations were going to look back and remember how Republicans and Democrats, cats and dogs, Klingons and Romulans came together and marched to the sunny uplands of history, where shopping carts have no wobbly wheels; airplane food is free, delicious and filling; and we get all of our energy from 100 percent renewable Loch Ness Monster poop.

1059 redstateredneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:54:34am

re: #1036 Nevergiveup

So they say?

You have destroyed my fond childhood memory.

1060 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:54:38am

re: #1044 Shug

doesn't "work ethic" involve work ?

No. Work is mean.

1061 yma o hyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:55:41am

Tee-double-hee!

Downing Street not amused by Sarkozy attack on Brown tax cut

Nobody likes the French - especially when they're telling an uncomfortable truth ...

1062 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:55:46am

re: #1055 Occasional Reader

Note that I *did* specify "autopistol".

(Yes, I know there are .44 magnum autopistols, but I mean... really. That just reeks of "trying too hard".)

Missed that!
On that technicality, you are 500 million percent correct! (per month)

1063 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:56:11am

re: #1044 Shug

doesn't "work ethic" involve work ?

He's got trouble with the "ethic" part, too.

1064 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:56:17am

re: #1048 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are things today?

You must now address us as Comrades, comrade. Long live the Revolution.

1065 yma o hyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:56:55am

re: #1051 Nevergiveup

Well Obama is still President so...

Aww - he's not turned the fluffy Globull warming into something like $$$, yet?
Sack him!

:-)

1066 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:57:05am

re: #1057 Ojoe

And the BFG 9000.

1067 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:57:09am

re: #1057 Ojoe

They left out the 1873 Remington lever action

I was surprised they included the 870 Wingmaster. That's also a "working" firearm. (mine was originally for pheasants)

1068 jcbunga  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:57:18am

What we need today is a Sam Adams.

The beer and the Patriot.

1069 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:57:30am

re: #1064 faraway

You must now address us as Comrades, comrade. Long live the Revolution.

Baaa! Two legs baaad! Four legs goood!

1070 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:58:08am

Comrades, something to cheer us up each day - the 2009 Palin calendar

1071 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:58:08am
1072 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:58:35am

re: #1069 Honorary Yooper

Baaa! Two legs baaad! Four legs goood!

You makin fun of my wife?

1073 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:58:39am

re: #1066 rightside

LOL fires green balls of plasma

1074 yma o hyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:59:22am

re: #1064 faraway

You must now address us as Comrades, comrade. Long live the Revolution.

Oh nonononono!

He can't be a communist, he's a 'man of faith' now, thanks to Tony Blair's visit!

1075 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:59:34am

re: #1070 faraway

Comrades, something to cheer us up each day - the 2009 Palin calendar

Gotta jump on that. A little cult of personality type stuff there. IMHO.

1076 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:59:40am

he's scaring us again!

1077 VegasRick  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:59:45am

Mr doom and gloom is whinning again.

1078 jcbunga  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:59:45am

I distinctly recall ordering 2 horns on my unicorn, which still hasn't arrived.

1079 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:00:00am

re: #1073 Ojoe

LOL fires green balls of plasma

And Photon Torpedoes sure are heavy...:)

1080 Sunlight  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:00:06am

I'm wondering if we could get the Israeli lizards here to add to this:

[Link: imshin.net...]

I'm thinking that the Israelis are going to vote to compensate for the election of Obama over McCain. I'm thinking that a McCain presidency would have given the Israelis room to vote for someone other than Netanyahu or Lieberman... Peres's response at Davos was all the more striking because of who gave it and because we all know Peres has tried everything under the sun to please all these people and nothing has worked out. Vote well, Israelis... McCain is not there as backstop.

1081 yma o hyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:00:26am

re: #1069 Honorary Yooper

Baaa! Two legs baaad! Four legs goood!

Not if you're a sheep and the four legs are attached to a Border Collie!

:-)

1082 quickjustice  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:00:38am

So far, O's let Congress do the heavy lifting. That'll work well! ;-)

1083 rawmuse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:00:39am

Later, Lizards, off to the note factory for me.

1084 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:00:41am

re: #1073 Ojoe

LOL fires green balls of plasma

There's a lizard joke in there somewhere

1085 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:00:46am
1086 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:00:48am

re: #1068 jcbunga

What we need today is a Sam Adams.

The beer and the Patriot.

The most appropriate Adams for these times is Charles Addams.

1087 Racer X  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:00:54am

re: #1071 ploome hineni

...pig sighted, flying north

UN agency suspends operations after Hamas ministry steals 10 truckloads of food from crossing
Hanan Greenberg

Thread worthy.

1088 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:00:59am

Oh I see our friend Pakistan has lifted all restrictions on A. Q Kahn. Wonder if they will let him continue where he left off?

/Lovely.

1089 redstateredneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:01:07am

re: #1070 faraway

Comrades, something to cheer us up each day - the 2009 Palin calendar

I see she's practicing good gun safety. Whatta gal!

1090 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:01:12am

re: #1076 phoenixgirl

he's scaring us again!

I noticed that in the background.
Since I agree with one thing he said, and refuse to get involved in "politics of distraction" with him, I'm largely ignoring him.

1091 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:01:26am

re: #1079 Dustyvet


That's because they hold the body of a vulcan named Spock.

1092 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:01:42am

re: #1070 faraway

Comrades, something to cheer us up each day - the 2009 Palin calendar

Let me know when the swimsuit issue comes out.

1093 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:01:50am

crumbling schools?

1094 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:02:02am

re: #1086 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The most appropriate Adams for these times is Charles Addams.

1095 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:02:45am

In mulling over Obama's first weeks in office, something comes to mind. No one can possibly "manage" the country. It's the chief executive's job to surround himself with sharp, experienced, savvy people. Okay, Obama's surrounded himself with people who;

Can't seem to find anyone to fill a post who hasn't had tax issues.

Turned the stimulus package proposals from a winner to a loser (in terms of approval percentages in recent polls) - although that works for me.

Decided it would be a good idea to take Air Force One "out for a spin".

Give the thumbs up to jokes like the one about Rahm teaching kids profanity.

Tell him it's okay to be late for every meeting, press conference, event - after all he's the Prez.

Good heavens, man, take a look at the people around you and figure out how to get some real talent in there.

1096 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:03:10am

Today's quote from the Chairman.

"What has been lost is our sense of common purpose - our sense of higher purpose. And that's what we have to restore."

The "Pocket Obama" (c) 2008

1097 rightside  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:03:12am

I'm RTB

1098 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:03:18am

re: #1088 Creeping Eruption

Oh I see our friend Pakistan has lifted all restrictions on A. Q Kahn. Wonder if they will let him continue where he left off?

/Lovely.

Musharaf is looking pretty good about now

1099 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:03:53am

all hands on deck!

1100 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:04:01am

re: #1085 Iron Fist

Man, you should see the toy I'm building. You can start with a used 870, and just start replacing parts. Wilson Combat sells very high-quality parts like magazine extenders and ghost ring sights. Vang makes an interesting extended safety, and Mossberg makes an acceptible breacher-equipped barrel. Houge stocks are a must, and a sidesaddle ammo holder kind of fills out the package. I've got to get it cera-coated, and the sights installed. All told, I'll have about a thousand dollars invested. I could have just gone out and bought a Wilson, but I'd have stilll had to add a few parts to get the shotgun I wanted.

It is a true piece of work, suitible for SWAT-team deployment, and it's all legal. There's nothing on it, nothing, that even skirts the law.

I've noticed that "what violates the law" usually involves merely looking scary.

That seems to be the first and foremost attribute, with no further reasoning needed.

1101 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:04:05am

re: #1098 Nevergiveup

Musharaf is looking pretty good about now

Musharaf/Palin 2012!
/

1102 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:04:09am

re: #1095 subsailor68

"A man who is not wise himself cannot be well advised."

— Machiavelli

1103 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:04:14am

re: #1092 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm waiting until she writes a book about economics or foreign policy.

1104 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:04:15am

re: #1096 Walter L. Newton

Today's quote from the Chairman.

"What has been lost is our sense of common purpose - our sense of higher purpose. And that's what we have to restore."

The "Pocket Obama" (c) 2008

Walter, you gotta get Charles a copy of that open thread comments. Might be worth more than a few laughs.

1105 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:04:35am

someone should tell O is ALREADY potus.
maybe he will quit campaigning.
w/ the meaningless platitudes.
he has never said one real thing.

1106 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:04:37am

re: #1080 Sunlight

I'm wondering if we could get the Israeli lizards here to add to this:

[Link: imshin.net...]

I'm thinking that the Israelis are going to vote to compensate for the election of Obama over McCain. I'm thinking that a McCain presidency would have given the Israelis room to vote for someone other than Netanyahu or Lieberman... Peres's response at Davos was all the more striking because of who gave it and because we all know Peres has tried everything under the sun to please all these people and nothing has worked out. Vote well, Israelis... McCain is not there as backstop.

I'm going to vote Netanyahu (for the first time, voted Meretz for the past 13 years) not necessarily because of Obama, but because of my general frustration and disillusionment with the "Peace Process".

And he promised to cut taxes.

1107 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:04:50am

re: #1104 Honorary Yooper

Walter, you gotta get Charles a copy of that open thread comments. Might be worth more than a few laughs.

PMIF, for open thread comments.

1108 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:04:56am
1109 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:05:14am

re: #1104 Honorary Yooper

Walter, you gotta get Charles a copy of that open thread comments. Might be worth more than a few laughs.

I don't understand what you are referring too. Clarify?

1110 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:05:23am

Is he reading from a teleprompter? Geez ...the guy can never speak without a teleprompter ...

1111 Racer X  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:05:56am

re: #1103 Killgore Trout

I'm waiting until she writes a book about economics or foreign policy Hunting and Fishing.


Fixed.

1112 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:06:07am

re: #1099 phoenixgirl

all hands on deck!

If you're referring to Obama, I expect your next announcement to include the phrase "sweepers, sweepers, man your brooms".

Followed by the phrase "the fantail is now open for the dumping of trash and garbage".

That is all.

1113 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:06:09am

re: #1110 JacksonTn

Is he reading from a teleprompter? Geez ...the guy can never speak without a teleprompter ...

Is Obama talking to someone again?

1114 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:06:10am

re: #1102 Ojoe

"A man who is not wise himself cannot be well advised."

— Machiavelli

Ah yes. Perfect quote!

1115 yma o hyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:06:11am

Reality bites even in Sweden:
Sweden to swap green plan for nuclear plants
'The change of policy was also made possible by the election in 2006 of the first right-of-centre Government in Sweden for 12 years. '

... and the Green Party wails ...

1116 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:06:17am

re: #979 Honorary Yooper
LOL! Yes they do know how to drive in the snow, but look who they elect to Congress for cryin' out loud!

1117 MikeySDCA  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:06:36am

re: #1098 Nevergiveup

He always did.

BTW, why does Bambi need more econ advisers? He already has at least 2 groups.

Government by press conference.

1118 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:06:39am

re: #1100 jwb7605

I've noticed that "what violates the law" usually involves merely looking scary.

That seems to be the first and foremost attribute, with no further reasoning needed.

Exactly! Pistol grips are scary-looking, so out they go! It's as if the gov't wanted to ban sportscars because they're dangerous, then decided to ban the Karmann Ghia just because it looks like a sports car, never mind that it performs like a Beetle.

1119 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:06:43am

re: #1109 Walter L. Newton

I don't understand what you are referring too. Clarify?

A copy of The Little Blue Book for Charles to use as quotes for open threads. No better way to mock our fearless leader than to use his own words against him.

1120 Macker  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:06:50am

re: #1091 rightside

Brain? What is Brain?

1121 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:07:01am

re: #1113 Walter L. Newton

Is Obama talking to someone again?

Yes he is on FOX now announcing his new economic advisory play team ...he is reading from teleprompter I saw it and he is doing the left/right head thing ...

1122 VegasRick  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:07:08am

obambi needs more ears?

1123 Ojoe  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:07:25am

re: #1114 subsailor68

This will be a terrible 4 years.

BBL

1124 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:07:30am

uh oh, he's serious

1125 yma o hyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:07:36am

re: #1102 Ojoe

"A man who is not wise himself cannot be well advised."

— Machiavelli

True, dat!

1126 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:07:43am

May we have this guy at the helm instead?

1127 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:07:59am

they'll be additional eyes and ears

/does Obummer really need additional ears?

1128 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:08:12am

re: #1119 Honorary Yooper

A copy of The Little Blue Book for Charles to use as quotes for open threads. No better way to mock our fearless leader than to use his own words against him.

Oh. That's a good idea, but I shouldn't have to get anything to him, since he can clip and paste all he wants. I posted at least 10-12 quotes from the book so far.

1129 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:08:24am

re: #1121 JacksonTn

Yes he is on FOX now announcing his new economic advisory play team ...he is reading from teleprompter I saw it and he is doing the left/right head thing ...

"President Teleprompter" sounds like a good nickname for this President.

1130 jcbunga  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:08:25am

re: #1122 VegasRick

obambi needs more ears?

He's got ears like the Flyning Nun had hat.

1131 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:08:42am

re: #987 phoenixgirl
I was actually struck by how much they weren't laughing and applauding him. Even when he had the brass to say "of course it's a spending bill, that's how you stimulate the economy" - very, VERY few chuckles and hardly any applause at all.

1132 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:08:44am

re: #1100 jwb7605

I've noticed that "what violates the law" usually involves merely looking scary.

That seems to be the first and foremost attribute, with no further reasoning needed.

Just about everything they use to define an "Assault Weapon" is cosmetic, not functional. Mag cap is about the only thing, but with practice swapping mags is fast.

1133 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:08:45am

re: #1110 JacksonTn

Is he reading from a teleprompter? Geez ...the guy can never speak without a teleprompter ...

Yeah, I hear it really irritates Michelle in the bedroom.

1134 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:08:46am

re: #1111 Racer X

Good point. I could always use some fishing tips.

1135 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:08:53am

not another executive order!

1136 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:08:58am

re: #1110 JacksonTn

Is he reading from a teleprompter? Geez ...the guy can never speak without a teleprompter ...

i noticed an informal discussion w/ o and some t.v. personality yesterday.
they were both sitting on a sofa. i have no idea what show it was, but:
O could not answer even simple questions w/ out looking at the pages laid out on the coffee table in front of him.

1137 Sunlight  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:09:07am

re: #1106 abaleh

I'm going to vote Netanyahu (for the first time, voted Meretz for the past 13 years) not necessarily because of Obama, but because of my general frustration and disillusionment with the "Peace Process".

And he promised to cut taxes.

Tax cut? Very cool.

Re the "peace" process, you'll be leading from the front in your area.

1138 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:09:07am

re: #1078 jcbunga

I distinctly recall ordering 2 horns on my unicorn, which still hasn't arrived.


That would make your unicorn into a bicorn

1139 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:09:11am

re: #1129 Honorary Yooper

"President Teleprompter" sounds like a good nickname for this President.

Why complicate things, "Chairman" works for me.

1140 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:09:19am

re: #1108 Iron Fist

I like the Charter Arms "Bulldog Pug" in .44 Special. It is small enough to carry, and is just a little less on the muzzel energy than a .44 Magnum. Also, while not cheap, they don't cost as much as a comperable Smith & Wesson.

I hear good things and bad things about these; I've always liked the idea of a large caliber revolver in a compact package, but I hear QC ain't 100% on these

1141 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:09:22am

re: #1133 subsailor68

Yeah, I hear it really irritates Michelle in the bedroom.

eewww ...

1142 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:09:31am

re: #1133 subsailor68

Yeah, I hear it really irritates Michelle in the bedroom.

ZING!

1143 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:09:34am

re: #1111 Racer X

I'm waiting until she writes a book about economics or foreign policy Hunting and Fishing.

Fixed.

I have a suggestion for her book then. File this under Misc. things not to do before, during, or after hunting:

WI poacher mails thawing skunk to SC taxidermist

1144 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:09:38am

re: #1116 realwest

LOL! Yes they do know how to drive in the snow, but look who they elect to Congress for cryin' out loud!

I was dating a Kiwi living in Wales, when Jesse Ventura got elected, she called and said...

You elected who? Followed by Only in America!

1145 Picayune  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:10:01am

Obama has now corrupted FDR's "We have nothing to Fear, but Fear... itself", into… “I have nothing but Fear itself - to desperately try to Sell this simulated stimulus, porkapalozza, and I Fear that now it shows!"

"And the wheels on the bus go round 'n round!"...

1146 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:10:04am

re: #991 3 wood
"By the way, the market just climbed back up to where it was when the Messiah was sworn in."
PROGRESS AT LAST!

1147 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:10:28am

re: #1141 JacksonTn

eewww ...

Hmmm...sorry. I didn't pick up on the visual at first.

:-)

1148 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:10:41am

re: #1131 realwest

I was actually struck by how much they weren't laughing and applauding him. Even when he had the brass to say "of course it's a spending bill, that's how you stimulate the economy" - very, VERY few chuckles and hardly any applause at all.

That's funny, I heard a radio clip of that comment and there was a lot of applause. Which I thought was weird since it was the press there. So, now I wonder, did someone ADD some applause to an audio clip of that segment?

1149 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:10:50am

re: #1131 realwest

I was actually struck by how much they weren't laughing and applauding him. Even when he had the brass to say "of course it's a spending bill, that's how you stimulate the economy" - very, VERY few chuckles and hardly any applause at all.

Obama is more clueless about how to stimulate an economy than any president since FDR (well, maybe Carter).

1150 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:11:00am

OK, this is odd. I clicked on the homepage of my local talk radio station to listen to Rush & they have a new pic of Philadelphia's skyline, which includes a new building that doesn't exist. The second-tallest building on the left isn't there. Any Philly area Lizards know if there's plans for a new skyscraper?

1151 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:11:02am
1152 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:11:12am

re: #1131 realwest

I was actually struck by how much they weren't laughing and applauding him. Even when he had the brass to say "of course it's a spending bill, that's how you stimulate the economy" - very, VERY few chuckles and hardly any applause at all.

that's because they've heard this so many times that even they are numb

1153 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:11:51am

re: #1137 Sunlight

Tax cut? Very cool.

Re the "peace" process, you'll be leading from the front in your area.

I'm aware of it. I hope we stocked up on weapons, cause Obama will probably embargo us.

1154 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:12:29am

Good morning campers. I'm betting this quote has popped up here before-but I'd not seen it until a buddy sent it to me recently:

“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that, my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”

--Dr. Adrian Rogers

1155 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:12:38am

Pakistan releases 'father' of nuclear bomb from house arrest

High court rules Abdul Qadeer Khan was not involved in selling nuclear secrets to Iran, North Korea and Libya.

Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani scientist accused of selling nuclear secrets, was today freed from five years of house arrest by a court and immediately declared that he can now "lead a normal life".

Khan, lionised as the "father" of Pakistan's atomic bomb, confessed in 2004 to selling nuclear secrets to Iran, North Korea and Libya. He was immediately pardoned but detained in his home.

/hi ho, hi ho, it's back to work he goes

1156 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:12:42am

re: #999 redstateredneck
Oooh - Kinky! LOL! Hi ya {red}! Hope you're doing wel today.

1157 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:13:26am
1158 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:13:36am

re: #1138 n in wi

That would make your unicorn into a bicorn

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

1159 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:14:08am

re: #1088 Creeping Eruption

Oh I see our friend Pakistan has lifted all restrictions on A. Q Kahn. Wonder if they will let him continue where he left off?

/Lovely.

So when do we stuff him into Cryo-freeze and launch him and his followers into space?

1160 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:14:09am

re: #1155 Killian Bundy

Next stop for AQ Khan?
Iran?

1161 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:15:02am
1162 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:15:25am

re: #1159 CyanSnowHawk

So when do we stuff him into Cryo-freeze and launch him and his followers into space?

Is that a new way to dispose of useless junk now?

1163 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:15:30am

re: #1157 Iron Fist

Supposedly all of those problems have been fixed. I'll let you know how my research goes :-)

Please do - I just loves me a wheelgun, and the idea of a nice little 44 spl is very appealing.

1164 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:15:42am

re: #1133 subsailor68

Yeah, I hear it really irritates Michelle in the bedroom.

That's when she said "Barak,your package is not stimulating."

1165 Sunlight  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:16:01am

re: #1153 abaleh

I'm aware of it. I hope we stocked up on weapons, cause Obama will probably embargo us.

And I hope the IDF hasn't given them the keys to the kingdom with these radars plugged into the core of the IDF systems.

I first encountered Netanyahu when he used to be on the MacNeill Lehrer Newshour in the 80s. He made me a total fan of Israel and that was before I met my Jewish husband and learned more and more about Israel. We took the kids and visited Israel in summer '06 and loved it (except the rockets). And I am a total fan of Israel's science and technology sector...

1166 MikeySDCA  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:16:09am

re: #1135 phoenixgirl

not another executive order!

Notice how the Executive Orders are not being on the WH siteWH

1167 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:16:22am

re: #1164 n in wi

That's when she said "Barak,your package is not stimulating."

So wrong, yet so funny.

1168 Sunlight  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:16:55am

re: #1161 lawhawk

Barney Frank: The Good Little Socialist - wants to cap compensation for everyone.

Surely except for himself and his posse.

1169 tackle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:17:04am

re: #925 Shug

Stop bitching about deficits, while you are increasing them


May I add, stop bitching about "our dependency on foreign oil" when you are quashing efforts to lessen that dependency, such as canceling oil leases in Utah.

1170 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:17:04am

re: #1164 n in wi

That's when she said "Barak,your package is not stimulating."

barry! stop stimulating me!

1171 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:17:06am

re: #1155 Killian Bundy

Pakistan releases 'father' of nuclear bomb from house arrest

/hi ho, hi ho, it's back to work he goes

He's an Orc, not a dwarf. He's going back to build the Islamists an arsenal worthy of Mordor.

/not entirely kidding

1172 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:17:07am

re: #1161 lawhawk

Barney Frank: The Good Little Socialist - wants to cap compensation for everyone.

Do the Chinese even do that?!

1173 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:17:36am

re: #1151 Iron Fist

That's true if you are talking about "Assault" weapons. If they bring that piece of shit back up, we need to shove it back down their throat sideways. With a shotgun, though, you have to be careful with your barrel length. One milimeter too short, and they can and will prosecute you. The place I get my work done won't cut a barrel shorter than 18.5 inches for that very reason. It is still reasonably short, but if John Law starts sniffing around you can set back and relax knowing that, unless he plants some evidence, you are in the clear. In my experience, cops generally don't care about it, but it is better to be safe than sorry.

My weapons are primarily for "work".
Hunting pheasants with an 18" barrel shotgun is simply stupid.
Using a 12-gauge on a bear isn't the brightest thing to do, either, which is why the .44 usually goes camping with me.

For primary home defense, I had an insurance salesman start telling me about home defense systems, and I said "I've got one already".
He said "not as good as this one".
I whistled and yelled "Molly!".
The 110 pounder escorted him to the front door. I explained on his way out that we have a dog door, and it's open when I'm gone so the house is protected inside and outside, if he wanted to test the theory.

1174 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:18:04am

re: #1166 MikeySDCA

Notice how the Executive Orders are not being on the WH siteWH

Same thing with his campaign site. Certain speeches where the Marxism slipped out never got posted.

Transparency!
*my a***

1175 yma o hyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:18:31am

Aww - PB0 is 'news' on the Beeb site:
Obama denounces stimulus hold-up

Here are some quotes:

'US President Barack Obama has said the Senate's delay in passing his $900bn (£616bn) economic stimulus package is "inexcusable and irresponsible".
He described the economic situation as "an urgent and growing crisis", which could become "a catastrophe" if the Senate failed to act. '

And:
'Mr Obama's remarks came as he unveiled a new board of economic advisers, chaired by Paul Volcker, former chairman of the Federal Reserve.
"I created this board to enlist voices that come from beyond the echo chamber of Washington DC," said Mr Obama, "and to ensure that no stone is unturned as we work to put people back to work and to get our economy moving." '

Yeah, well, rhetoric won't put people to work, Mr Prez Teleprompter!

1176 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:18:42am

re: #1159 CyanSnowHawk

So when do we stuff him into Cryo-freeze and launch him and his followers into space?

KHAAANN!

- James T. Kirk

1177 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:18:50am

re: #1164 n in wi

That's when she said "Barak,your package is not stimulating."

It needs more inflation to justify the pork.
/going to get deleted, I'm sure.

1178 tfc3rid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:18:58am

re: #1129 Honorary Yooper

"President Teleprompter" sounds like a good nickname for this President.

I like O-Fraud.

1179 jaunte  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:19:10am

re: #1161 lawhawk

It may have escaped Barney that CEO's with jets can live in Ireland if they want to escape high taxes.

1180 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:19:16am

re: #1161 lawhawk

Barney Frank: The Good Little Socialist - wants to cap compensation for everyone.

lawhawk, you're the expert here, so I'm wondering what you think about this quote from the article:

The bill, which the committee is working on in consultation with the Obama administration, also will require financial institutions that bundle mortgages into securities to share in potential losses. This would give banks and mortgage-specialists an incentive not to make bad loans, he said. Institutions that securitize loans improperly will incur tougher penalties.

With the CRA still in place, and the pressure from groups like ACORN, isn't this a Catch-22? I mean, if they don't make those "risky" loans they face penalties, and if they abide by the CRA, and the loans continue to go south, the get shafted with this bill?

1181 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:19:21am

Jack Kevorkian unveils U.S. flag altered with swastika at NSU event


[Link: www.sun-sentinel.com...]

1182 MikeySDCA  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:19:50am

re: #1178 tfc3rid

I still like Bambi, with Biden as Thumper.

1183 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:19:52am

re: #1161 lawhawk

Barney Frank: The Good Little Socialist - wants to cap compensation for everyone.

I'd say to take that bill and shove up Frank's ass, but he'd like that too much.

1184 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:19:57am

re: #1170 phoenixgirl

barry! stop stimulating me!

Repost from upthread.

Because all economies have performance issues

1185 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:20:04am

re: #1172 Creeping Eruption

Do the Chinese even do that?!

No, and remember during the Olympics how Barry 0 was praising how the Chinese do business.

1186 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:20:13am

re: #1175 yma o hyd
Didn't take long for 'Dear Leader' to go from Hopenchange to State of Fear to advance his agenda...

1187 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:20:48am

re: #1164 n in wi

That's when she said "Barak,your package is not stimulating."

LOL! "Don't worry dear, by the time I'm through it will be much, much bigger."

1188 jim in virginia  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:21:16am

This is so shweet!
Buddy at work is a hard core Democrat. He said this morning he thought Obama's speech to the Dems last night was embarassing. Then he added, "and he stood behind Daschle, too. This isn't the man I voted for."

Well, yes, actually it is.

1189 jaunte  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:21:23am

Peter Kirsanow at The Corner:

Obama was in a protective media cocoon during the two years of the presidential campaign. Clearly he's gotten used to it. The media cocoon is still there, but what the president apparently hasn't realized is that the cocoon is much more effective when you're just making vaporous campaign statements that don't have an impact on people's lives. But once you're in office and actually charged with governing, what you say affects people's lives. They notice.


[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

1190 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:21:37am

re: #1162 Creeping Eruption

Is that a new way to dispose of useless junk now?

I don't know about that, but it does track with Star Trek Canon.

1191 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:21:42am

re: #1179 jaunte

It may have escaped Barney that CEO's with jets can live in Ireland if they want to escape high taxes.

"We must stop private jet ownership for these corporate fat cats! Besides which, it'll cut down on greenhouse gases."
/preview of SOTU address.

1192 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:22:03am

Treasury overpaid for bank stocks

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Why not.

1193 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:22:03am

re: #1181 Dustyvet

Jack Kevorkian unveils U.S. flag altered with swastika at NSU event

[Link: www.sun-sentinel.com...]

Dr. Death and the Moonbats. (Sounds like the name of an Ed Wood movie.)

1194 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:22:20am

re: #1165 Sunlight

And I hope the IDF hasn't given them the keys to the kingdom with these radars plugged into the core of the IDF systems.

I first encountered Netanyahu when he used to be on the MacNeill Lehrer Newshour in the 80s. He made me a total fan of Israel and that was before I met my Jewish husband and learned more and more about Israel. We took the kids and visited Israel in summer '06 and loved it (except the rockets). And I am a total fan of Israel's science and technology sector...

Well, the Iranians will probably ask him to take back the radar, and O Thant will meekly comply.

1195 MikeySDCA  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:22:27am

re: #1189 jaunte

Yes indeed!

1196 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:22:30am

re: #1181 Dustyvet

Jack Kevorkian unveils U.S. flag altered with swastika at NSU event

[Link: www.sun-sentinel.com...]

Kevorkian should self medicate...

1197 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:22:37am

So, is the public waking up from its drunk yet? Is it beginning to dawn on folks that Obama is in way over his head?

1198 Kragar  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:22:51am

re: #1187 subsailor68

LOL! "Don't worry dear, by the time I'm through it will be much, much bigger."

Its not the size of the package, its what you do with it

1199 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:23:17am

re: #1188 jim in virginia

Krauthammer pointed out today that he figured it'd take the American voters about six months to figure out their mistake-it's only taking 2 1/2 weeks...

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

1200 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:23:47am

re: #1061 yma o hyd
Hi {yma}! "Nobody likes the French ...not even the French" FTFY!

1201 bulwrk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:23:53am

This is what happens when only the bad guys have guns


One dead, six wounded in San Gabriel cafe shooting.

1202 Ben Hur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:23:54am

Are We Inviting Hamas To "Migrate" Into The United States?

I hope everyone saw this in the spin off links.

Threadworthy.

1203 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:24:03am

re: #1197 unreconstructed rebel

So, is the public waking up from its drunk yet? Is it beginning to dawn on folks that Obama is in way over his head?

He's not way in over his head. He is attempting to do just what he promised, and it will get done.

Stone cold winning bet.

1204 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:24:17am

re: #1199 BigMoo

Krauthammer pointed out today that he figured it'd take the American voters about six months to figure out their mistake-it's only taking 2 1/2 weeks...

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

The poll numbers for 0 must be bad, otherwise, they'd be headline news, the way that Bush's bad poll numbers were.

1205 Killer Tomato  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:24:22am

re: #1181 Dustyvet

Jack Kevorkian unveils U.S. flag altered with swastika at NSU event


From the article:

David Farin asked Kevorkian if he would ever euthanize himself.
"Of course," he replied.

So, what's the hold up?

1206 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:24:45am

re: #1191 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

But it IS ok for Pelosi to keep her personal jet...right ? I mean, she really needs it and it's only used for urgent Gov't business...isn't it ?

1207 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:24:47am

re: #1202 Ben Hur

Are We Inviting Hamas To "Migrate" Into The United States?

I hope everyone saw this in the spin off links.

Threadworthy.

Well they sure got a good foothold in Minnesota!

1208 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:24:49am

re: #1200 realwest

Hi {yma}! "Nobody likes the French ...not even the French" FTFY!

I do. Bullshit.

1209 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:24:55am

re: #1193 Dark_Falcon

Dr. Death and the Moonbats. (Sounds like the name of an Ed Wood movie.)

byline reads Andrew Ba Tran %P% South Florida Sun-Sentinel

He pulled that crap here in the states? In front of a flag altered that way?
In Public?

1210 jaunte  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:25:05am

re: #1192 Walter L. Newton

Treasury overpaid for bank stocks

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Why not.

David Obey: 'So What?'

How money is spent should be far from the biggest concern about the stimulus package, its chief author, House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wisc.) said Friday.

"So what?" Obey asked in response to a question on NPR's "Morning Edition" about the perceived lack of direction from Congress as to how money in the stimulus should be spent. "This is an emergency. We've got to simply find a way to get this done as fast as possible and as well as possible, and that's what we're doing."


[Link: briefingroom.thehill.com...]

1211 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:25:13am

re: #1197 unreconstructed rebel

So, is the public waking up from its drunk yet? Is it beginning to dawn on folks that Obama is in way over his head?

Yes, I think so.

1212 JHW  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:26:15am

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet, it's from Drudge. However, it's the comments posted with this article that are vile beyond belief. If you've ever served in the Armed Forces, prepare to be enraged reading this . Too many on the left share these sentiments I'm afraid, we heard the same poisonous garbage 40 years ago.

Army Deserter Deported From Canada

The top 3 comments in particular are about as bad as can be.

1213 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:26:23am

re: #1204 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What a difference a (D) makes instead of an (R) next to your name...

1214 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:26:24am

I'm out from a while. I've got errands to run.

1215 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:26:25am

re: #1210 jaunte

[Link: briefingroom.thehill.com...]

And folks, that passes for intelligence.

1216 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:26:41am

There may not be much time left on this thread, but can someone explain card check to me? I get the concept, but what does this look like? Someone literally walks up to a worker (how do they physically get in the door?) and holds a literal, physical card up to this worker (I suppose they're on break?) and says "Do you want to join a union?" and the worker pretty much has no choice but to answer because of all the scare tactics and pressure? And perhaps because they just want this union person to leave them alone so they can finish their tuna sandwich or finish whatever task it is they're doing?

What I really don't get is how unionizers actually get onto a worksite and whether they have a separate card for each "recruit" or a big signup sheet or how the heck they do this. Visualizing card check is weird.

1217 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:26:51am

re: #1209 jwb7605

byline reads Andrew Ba Tran %P% South Florida Sun-Sentinel

He pulled that crap here in the states? In front of a flag altered that way?
In Public?

see the photograph at the link on #1181

1218 justabill  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:27:06am

I think they need to update the scene in Austin Powers where Dr. Evil calls up the UN to deliver his ultimatum.

(Original scene)
Dr. Evil: "I demand the sum... OF 1 MILLION DOLLARS."
UN Delegates
Dr. Evil "ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS"
(New Scene continues)
All UN Delegates but US Delegate stop laughing, US delegate laughs more
Dr. Evil "TEN TRILLION DOLLARS"
US Delegate: Stops Laughing.

1219 Kragar  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:27:17am

re: #1197 unreconstructed rebel

So, is the public waking up from its drunk yet? Is it beginning to dawn on folks that Obama is in way over his head?

I think it goes a little bit like this:

1220 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:27:21am

Obummer wants stimulus?

/have at it!

1221 Ben Hur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:27:39am

re: #1053 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, Ben, but I didn't get one whiff of racism from that op-ed. It struck me as a clear-eyed analysis of a political opponent, written by someone who has know Steele for a long time. I disagree with Bob Beckel on just about everything policy-wise, but he does hit the mark here.

Steele is an African American.

Beckel does not agree with him politically.

Beckel, therefore, is a racist.

1222 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:27:43am

re: #1203 Walter L. Newton

Sadly, I agree with you. If nothing else, he's drawn out his adversaries now and via the Saul Allinsky handbook, will deal with them accordingly...

1223 jaunte  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:27:45am

re: #1215 Walter L. Newton

The last line in that from David Obey is a killer:
"Regardless of what we do, there will be some stupid decisions made."

Tattoo it on his forehead.

[Link: briefingroom.thehill.com...]

1224 AuntAcid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:28:00am

re: #1164 n in wi

That's when she said "Barak,your package is not stimulating."

Stimulating hell! It's a phallusey.

1225 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:28:25am

re: #1210 jaunte

Obey is an idiot. Chapter 5 of Amity Schlaes' wonderful book "The Forgotten Man" is titled "The Experimenter". It details what happened when FDR took Obey's approach:

"So what?" Obey asked in response to a question on NPR's "Morning Edition" about the perceived lack of direction from Congress as to how money in the stimulus should be spent. "This is an emergency. We've got to simply find a way to get this done as fast as possible and as well as possible, and that's what we're doing."

1226 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:28:31am

re: #1103 Killgore Trout
Ah, you mean like the books Obama wrote, hey?!

1227 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:28:54am
1228 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:29:04am

re: #1219 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I think it goes a little bit like this:



Coyote ugly!

1229 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:29:25am
1230 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:29:39am

re: #1215 Walter L. Newton

And folks, that passes for intelligence.

From the link:

"We simply made a decision, which took about three seconds, not to have earmarks in the bill," Obey told NPR. "And with all due respect, that's the least important question facing us on putting together this package."


Words simply fail me. I don't even know what part to hi lite.

1231 jaunte  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:29:54am

re: #1225 subsailor68

Our political class is trained: "In an emergency, empty someone else's wallet."

1232 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:29:58am

re: #1161 lawhawk

Barney Frank: The Good Little Socialist - wants to cap compensation for everyone.

If they give me 2-3 billion, I'll gladly cap my salary at $500,000. But that's just me.

1233 Pyrocles  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:30:25am

Wow...how original.

re: #1181 Dustyvet

Jack Kevorkian unveils U.S. flag altered with swastika at NSU event

[Link: www.sun-sentinel.com...]

1234 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:30:25am

re: #1229 Iron Fist

Just NEVER bring a knife to a gun fight...bad mojo.

1235 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:31:01am

Obama to grace 9/11 and USS Cole families with his presence and explain his Terrorism Stimulus Package.

This guy is such an asshole. I hope these families give him the respect he deserves - none.

1236 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:31:02am

re: #1234 BigMoo

Just NEVER bring a knife to a gun fight...bad mojo.

Oh I don't know. James Coburn did okay in The Magnificent Seven.

;-)

1237 Pyrocles  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:31:12am

It was at a university...a friendly place for flag defacing.

re: #1209 jwb7605

byline reads Andrew Ba Tran %P% South Florida Sun-Sentinel

He pulled that crap here in the states? In front of a flag altered that way?
In Public?

1238 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:31:17am

re: #1223 jaunte

The last line in that from David Obey is a killer:
"Regardless of what we do, there will be some stupid decisions made."

Tattoo it on his forehead.

[Link: briefingroom.thehill.com...]

Over the last few years, I have really thought about trying to make some quick big bucks by being stupid. Maybe I should take lessons from this guy.

This is so typical of a lot of people now a days. Lower the bar, let's not strive for the best, just the all right.

"This is your pilot, I think I have the right runway... hold on"

1239 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:31:27am

re: #1227 ploome hineni

I am getting a feeling

the longer we hold off on this 'stimuus bill', the less we need it

Bingo! We have a winner. I am trying hard to convince my kids that this is for the people to sort out, not Garlic Head & his cohorts.

1240 A.W.  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:31:57am

Mmm, Charles hasn't posted all day today. is everything okay?

1241 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:32:07am
1242 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:32:13am

re: #1180 subsailor68

That sounds about right; Barney Frank and the rest of the Congress pushed CRA as the cure-all, end all for affordable homeownership and forced lenders to lower their standards to avoid what they considered redlining of minorities, despite the fact that minorities were often those with the lower credit and not creditworthy risks for borrowing.

Congress continues to push lenders to borrow to subprimes, despite the fact that they still are unable to repay and are being disproportionately hit by the economic recession. Frank continues gaming the market and distorting it beyond belief, and no one wants to call him on the carpet for his failings and his adventures in socialism, which have cost the nation trillions of dollars with their "affordable housing".

1243 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:32:13am

re: #1236 subsailor68

LOL-very true (great scene)...but just remember, he was 'packin' also I believe...

1244 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:32:31am

re: #1105 nyc redneck
"he has never said one real thing." You say that as if it's a BAD thing!
How are ya nyc redneck?!

1245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:32:33am

What up? Yo. Somebody poison Charles' wine last night?

1246 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:32:36am

re: #1227 ploome hineni

I am getting a feeling

the longer we hold off on this 'stimuus bill', the less we need it

so true.
and the way they are trying to force it on us, as the last hope of humanity,
should give pause to every citizen in this country.
haven't we all encountered grifters like this w/ words such, "but you gotta sign NOW or else?"
it really is a scam and they don't want us to have a moment to think abt. it.

1247 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:32:48am

re: #1227 ploome hineni

I am getting a feeling

the longer we hold off on this 'stimuus bill', the less we need it


Yes.

1248 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:33:02am
1249 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:33:21am

re: #1242 lawhawk

That was my take on it also. Thanks lawhawk!

1250 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:33:22am

re: #1242 lawhawk

Not to mention, the American rule of law and contracts goes right down the toilet...

1251 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:33:27am

re: #1235 karmic_inquisitor

Obama to grace 9/11 and USS Cole families with his presence and explain his Terrorism Stimulus Package.

This guy is such an asshole. I hope these families give him the respect he deserves - none.

Considering his administration has dropped charges against the USS Cole bombers, I can already tell you what kind of reception he'll get.

1252 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:33:33am

re: #1245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What up? Yo. Somebody poison Charles' wine last night?

And why do you mention that? Do you know more than you pretend to know?

1253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:33:53am

re: #1248 Iron Fist

It'll take more than 6 for me.

Just sayin'.

1254 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:34:15am
1255 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:34:32am

Paging Obama, crisis on line one.

India claims that Pakistani intel behind Mumbai attacks.

That comes on the heels of Obama being rebuked by India to stay the hell away from trying to interfere in India's efforts relating to Kashmir.

1256 irongrampa  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:34:37am

re: #1151 Iron Fist

Interesting about 18.5" barrel length. My Ithaca Model 37 slug barrel measures exactly that. Even more interesting, IMHO, is it makes a great grouse gun with that combo.

1257 Killer Tomato  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:34:39am

re: #1241 buzzsawmonkey

What you mean, "we"?

This is a Presidential determination. The President is not a sovereign, and does not therefore have the prerogative to use the royal "we." And I sure as hell am not encouraging them.

What!?
Don't you remember that he was going to be ready to 'rule from Day 1'? They don't view us as citizens - they view us as subjects.

1258 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:34:44am

re: #1243 BigMoo

LOL-very true (great scene)...but just remember, he was 'packin' also I believe...

Heh, heh. Yes he was, but Obama had just been elected and there was a shortage of ammo at the General Store.

1259 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:34:52am

re: #1252 Walter L. Newton

And why do you mention that? Do you know more than you pretend to know?

He'd go all Rasputin on my ass. Take more than that for the Grand Lizard of the LGF.

1260 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:35:09am

re: #1255 lawhawk

At least the call didn't come in at 0300...

1261 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:35:41am

re: #1244 realwest

"he has never said one real thing." You say that as if it's a BAD thing!
How are ya nyc redneck?!

good {real},
considering we are being robbed as we speak.
i hope you're holding up ok.
(i'm going to read "1984" today, for a few laughs.)

1262 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:35:51am

re: #1255 lawhawk

Paging Obama, crisis on line one.

India claims that Pakistani intel behind Mumbai attacks.

That comes on the heels of Obama being rebuked by India to stay the hell away from trying to interfere in India's efforts relating to Kashmir.

This is not good, and Obama will never be ready.

1263 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:35:51am

re: #1252 Walter L. Newton

And why do you mention that? Do you know more than you pretend to know?

1264 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:36:12am

re: #1258 subsailor68

LMAO-And the ammo had been micro-marked for tracing purposes ?

1265 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:36:20am

re: #1254 buzzsawmonkey

Simulacrum. Next thing you know, we'll be talking about the necronomicon. /

1266 Sunlight  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:36:29am

re: #1194 abaleh

Well, the Iranians will probably ask him to take back the radar, and O Thant will meekly comply.

I'm waiting for that Iron Dome to knock back some kassams onto Gaza. I see parts of it advertised, but haven't seen a "news story" on an effective engagement yet. That, like the fence, will change the calculations with the closeby neighbors. Won't mean a thing re the radar and Iran. But will be good for the residents.

Well, keep opinionating. We need to hear lots of sides of arguments from Israel. And I wish we had more opinions/news coming from lizards in India... were you on last year when the place blew up over the white supremicist anti-jihadi Euros? LGF is a gem because of Charles and because of the commenters.

1267 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:37:04am

re: #1202 Ben Hur

Are We Inviting Hamas To "Migrate" Into The United States?

I hope everyone saw this in the spin off links.

Threadworthy.

Add another measure to the Terrorism Stimulus Package.

To think people consider Obama "smart" - when in history has it been smart for democracies to appease thugs? When has it been "smart" to use our sense of morality to refuse to fight for our civilization? When has it been "smart" to assume that thugs motivated by religious tenets will somehow abandon those tenets by giving them tangible gains as a reward for their terror?

1268 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:37:09am

re: #1135 phoenixgirl
Hey! Congress isn't doing anything, so he HAS to issue excecutive orders! Those damn Republicans, I swear..
uh, nevermind!

1269 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:37:12am
1270 lawhawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:37:12am

re: #1254 buzzsawmonkey

You see, there you go again, ignoring the ID-10T error among its proponents.

1271 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:37:16am

re: #1229 Iron Fist

It's a good thing I don't plan on hunting anything with an 18" barrel. It is strictly a weapon for CQC. I'm very much a knife person. I almost never leave the house without a knife clipped in my pocket. Techinically, the knife isn't a weapon, as it's blade is under 4". No one has ever stopped me to measure the length of my blade, so even that restriction is somewhat arbitrary in its application..

I always carry my genuine Buck lockback with the 2 3/4" blade.
I went to Sweden in April 2001. No problems, as usual, getting the thing over there, and I just put it with my pocket contents through the scanner, like I usually did.

On the way back, Swedish airport people freaked out and I was questioned about use and intent, etc. I told them "it's a tool. I use it to cut string, box tape, strip insulation from wires, and to clean fish in a pinch."

They finally let me come home on the grounds that I swore I'd keep it in my overhead luggage and not get it out until I arrived back here in the states.

After September 11 of that year, of course, that pocket knife is seriously illegal.
My theory is that airlines should encourage all male passengers to carry a pocket knife: I use flight 93 as a reference.

1272 UFO TOFU  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:37:21am

re: #1201 bulwrk

This is what happens when only the bad guys have guns

One dead, six wounded in San Gabriel cafe shooting.

Gah, saw that this morning. What in the hell was the motivation for that?

1273 subsailor68  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:37:28am

re: #1264 BigMoo

LMAO-And the ammo had been micro-marked for tracing purposes ?

Yep, and the town marshal had a really, really, really big ledger in his office.

1274 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:38:26am

re: #1268 realwest

Hey! Congress isn't doing anything, so he HAS to issue excecutive orders! Those damn Republicans, I swear..
uh, nevermind!

Any idea what today's Exec order was?

1275 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:38:43am
1276 irongrampa  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:38:48am

In order to compensate for Feb being the longest month ever, I've been tying dry flies each year. Pretty neat, somebody so fumble fingered doing THAT. They actually catch fish, just as a bonus.

1277 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:38:55am

re: #1251 gmsc

Considering his administration has dropped charges against the USS Cole bombers, I can already tell you what kind of reception he'll get.

You watch - he will moralize to these people. He will tell them that the America their sons and daughters defended was about the rights of the accused. He will treat these people like shit but be nice about it.

He is that arrogant.

He is that morally confused.

1278 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:38:55am

Mashaal: No truce without lifting of siege

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

OK and I raise you "No truce till your dead"?

1279 Irenike  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:39:04am

I heard there is a bumper sticker that shows an elephant peeing on an "O". Anybody know where I can get one?

1280 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:39:51am

re: #1272 UFO TOFU

Gah, saw that this morning. What in the hell was the motivation for that?

Very little info, if it were Seattle I'd call it gang related.

1281 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:40:07am
1282 Ben Hur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:40:09am

Medical board revokes license of abortion doctor

A Florida agency has revoked the license of a doctor accused of medical malpractice in a botched abortion in which authorities say a live baby was placed in the trash.

The Florida Board of Medicine on Friday found Dr. Pierre Jean-Jacque Renelique (ren-uh-LEEK') guilty of medical malpractice and delegating responsibility to unlicensed personnel.

An administrative complaint said Renelique was scheduled to perform an abortion on a teenager who was 23 weeks pregnant.

According to the complaint, Sycloria Williams gave birth at a Hialeah clinic after waiting hours for Renelique to arrive. A clinic owner placed the baby in the trash. Police recovered the decomposing remains a week later.

Renelique and his attorney declined to comment after the hearing.

Obama's first pardon?

1283 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:40:17am
1284 jwb7605  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:40:19am

re: #1276 irongrampa

In order to compensate for Feb being the longest month ever, I've been tying dry flies each year. Pretty neat, somebody so fumble fingered doing THAT. They actually catch fish, just as a bonus.

Cabela brothers started that way. In their basement. Sidney, Nebraska.

1285 irongrampa  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:40:51am

Crap. Hate unexpected company. Have a great day, good people.

1286 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:41:18am

re: #1148 Walter L. Newton
It could be Walter - I saw the audio/visual tape and I'm telling ya there was no where near the applause or laughs I expected - and apparently he expected cause there were a LOT of moments where he hesitated in his speech to sort of allow the laughter/applause die down. Even Mom remarked on it, saying "I thought he was talking to Democrats!"

1287 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:41:45am

re: #1276 irongrampa

In order to compensate for Feb being the longest month ever, I've been tying dry flies each year. Pretty neat, somebody so fumble fingered doing THAT. They actually catch fish, just as a bonus.

That is a skill that might come in quite handy in the near future.

1288 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:42:14am
1289 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:42:47am

re: #1273 subsailor68

Yeah...yet another unfunded mandate is dumped upon the local Sheriff/Chief LEO...

1290 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:42:55am

re: #1288 Iron Fist

I feel your pain :-) As for me, I've spent so damn much money on tattoos that it seems wrong to just throw all that artwork into a hole when I vacate the premises. Maybe they should skin me, and tan the leather...

Iron Fist brand driving gloves.

1291 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:42:57am

re: #1255 lawhawk

Paging Obama, crisis on line one.

India claims that Pakistani intel behind Mumbai attacks.

That comes on the heels of Obama being rebuked by India to stay the hell away from trying to interfere in India's efforts relating to Kashmir.

Line one is on hold with all the other crises.
They're having trouble reaching the president because he's visiting a kindergarten this time.

1292 irongrampa  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:43:26am

re: #1284 jwb7605
Once upon a time I did that for out local Dick's Sporting Goods. After I saw what I'd have to go through with the State of NY as a small business man, I quit it.

Heh. so much for the company.

1293 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:44:06am

re: #1265 lawhawk

Simulacrum. Next thing you know, we'll be talking about the necronomicon. /

Obama, aka Nyarlathotep, is just bringing some creeping chaos to prepare us for the Elder Gods.

1294 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:44:52am
1295 Sunlight  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:44:59am

re: #1235 karmic_inquisitor

Obama to grace 9/11 and USS Cole families with his presence and explain his Terrorism Stimulus Package.

This guy is such an asshole. I hope these families give him the respect he deserves - none.

I think Obama will try to depress military volunteerism so he can institute a draft and have total control. Dissing these families is one way to have others not want their kids under him as commander in chief. If he actually wanted people to support his "civilian" approach to terrorism response, he would need to show a clear path to judicial proceedings that didn't just release all these guys to do another 911 or Cole.

1296 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:45:05am

re: #1161 lawhawk
Wonder if Barney Frank even knows how to spell demagogue - which he clearly is.

1297 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:46:10am
1298 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:49:42am

re: #1188 jim in virginia
Hi Jim! Yup, that's what I've been saying about his speech last night - TO DEMS - who weren't applauding or laughing very much.

1299 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:51:32am

re: #1212 JHW

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet, it's from Drudge. However, it's the comments posted with this article that are vile beyond belief. If you've ever served in the Armed Forces, prepare to be enraged reading this . Too many on the left share these sentiments I'm afraid, we heard the same poisonous garbage 40 years ago.

Army Deserter Deported From Canada

The top 3 comments in particular are about as bad as can be.

Mr. Cornell just not be jailed, he should be honored for the man of principle and conscience he is. The man has my deepest respect and admiratio. He understands better than most that America is not worth his blood, or that of anyone else. There is a desparate need for a network to help these people who chosen to leave the military and begin their new lives away from the torment of American Imperialism

I am truly speechless...
There is no discussion or any middle ground to be found in talking to a person with this twisted and distorted a view of America.
There truly are domestic enemies in this country...

1300 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:53:07am

re: #1208 Walter L. Newton
Ah so if you do, it's bullshit, huh? Not tooo much ego there, eh?

1301 abaleh  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:54:30am

re: #1266 Sunlight

I'm waiting for that Iron Dome to knock back some kassams onto Gaza. I see parts of it advertised, but haven't seen a "news story" on an effective engagement yet. That, like the fence, will change the calculations with the closeby neighbors. Won't mean a thing re the radar and Iran. But will be good for the residents.

Well, keep opinionating. We need to hear lots of sides of arguments from Israel. And I wish we had more opinions/news coming from lizards in India... were you on last year when the place blew up over the white supremicist anti-jihadi Euros? LGF is a gem because of Charles and because of the commenters.

IIRC Iron Dome is still at least a year away from being ready.

Wasn't here last year for that.
I like LGF because of the intelligent people, and the fact that it's not a hate site. I learn a lot here.


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