Obama Drops Charges Against USS Cole Bomber

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The Barack Obama administration has dropped all charges against the mastermind of the USS Cole bombing.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon’s senior judge overseeing terror trials at Guantanamo Bay dropped charges Thursday against an al-Qaida suspect in the 2000 USS Cole bombing, upholding President Barack Obama’s order to freeze military tribunals there.

The charges against suspected al-Qaida bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri marked the last active Guantanamo war crimes case.

The legal move by Susan J. Crawford, the top legal authority for military trials at Guantanamo, brings all cases into compliance with Obama’s Jan. 22 executive order to halt terrorist court proceedings at the U.S. Navy base in Cuba.

Seventeen US citizens were murdered in that bombing.

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1096 comments
1 pegcity  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:12:25pm

Change?

2 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:12:58pm

At least he didn't give him a cabinet post.

3 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:14:04pm

Is this part of the reconciliation with Iran?

4 Bubbaman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:14:10pm

re: #2 HelloDare

At least he didn't give him a cabinet post.

Probably because he paid his taxes.

5 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:14:15pm

Jihadis around the world are jumping for joy. Nice going everyone who voted for ZerObama.

6 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:14:40pm

I get told I'm crazy when I say what I think about BHO, so I guess I will just let him explain it for him self.

7 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:14:51pm

It's utterly disgusting that the CiC would allow the murderer of our military personnel to go untried. Did I say it's utterly disgusting? I did? I'll say it again.

Utterly disgusting.

8 Ben Hur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:14:51pm
Obama was to meet with families of the USS Cole and 9/11 victims at the White House on Friday afternoon and may announce the move.

He's meeting with 15 people.

15 out of the 10s of thousands of family members.

They do not speak as one.

9 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:15:06pm

WHAT THE FUCK!?!

I was rather pissed when this happened in the first place. I really disliked Clinton after the incident because he did not pursue it like the act of war that it most certainly was. Now this asshole goes and drops the charges!?!

10 Eowyn2  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:15:28pm

re: #2 HelloDare

At least he didn't give him a cabinet post.

give it time.

11 jmdshort  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:15:46pm

At first, I wondered what the heck was going on.

However, after I read the article, I realized that this was the best/only thing that could be done. The Judge was ignoring Obama's order regarding ceasing all trials .. so the only way to comply was to drop the charges; with the intent of charging them again once the proceedings can start back up (they aren't releasing anyone).

12 Ben Hur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:16:06pm

He'll go back to being a nuisance.

13 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:16:22pm

re: #9 Honorary Yooper

As a side note, I can see the "W", "T", and "F" keys will be well worn over the next four years. Should send the bill for new keyboards to the White House.

14 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:16:37pm

he is a fcking disgrace.

even if these charges can be reinstated later, his message is clear.
he cares more abt. world opinion than he does his own country.

15 Eowyn2  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:16:47pm

re: #8 Ben Hur

He's meeting with 15 people.

15 out of the 10s of thousands of family members.

They do not speak as one.

I wonder how many of the one's he's meeting with are troofers?

16 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:17:20pm

re: #13 Honorary Yooper

As a side note, I can see the "W", "T", and "F" keys will be well worn over the next four years. Should send the bill for new keyboards to the White House.

Or maybe we should just pry those keys out of a bunch of old keyboards and mail them

17 Bubbaman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:17:28pm

While I am one of the biggest critics of Osama bin Obama. we really don't know what the circumstances are. The charges were dropped without prejudice so the feds can later re-try this scumbag. My initial thoughts are that a trial would have revealed covert intel.

18 Muadib  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:17:30pm

While your at it Barack, why not make the White House a half-way house for recovering jihadists.

19 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:17:39pm

re: #11 jmdshort

At first, I wondered what the heck was going on.

However, after I read the article, I realized that this was the best/only thing that could be done. The Judge was ignoring Obama's order regarding ceasing all trials .. so the only way to comply was to drop the charges; with the intent of charging them again once the proceedings can start back up (they aren't releasing anyone).

Yeas and No. If they decide to move all these little gems to the US and try them in Civil courts, most will go free because of rules of evidence to national security concerns being exposed. That is why Military Tribunals in Gitmo were the answer.

20 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:17:47pm

Al-Nashiri was told however, in no uncertain terms ,that acting like this in the future woudl be severely frowned upon........

/*I'm going to throw up*

21 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:17:49pm

re: #15 Eowyn2

I wonder how many of the one's he's meeting with are troofers?

I'll bet it's the "Jersey Girls" and nobody else.

22 Ay, Caramba  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:17:49pm

How long before Michelle O. starts wearing a burka as a show of solidarity.

23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:17:49pm

I have been staunchly on the "Give the man a chance." side.

I feel betrayed.

Corksocker.

24 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:18:31pm

re: #22 Ay, Caramba

How long before Michelle O. starts wearing a burka as a show of solidarity.

Over/under?

25 Desert Dog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:18:34pm

Stopping a trial and dropping charges are one thing. If Obama does not charge this guy with something and put him in some sort of trial then he is a traitor in my eyes. So, as long as they come back and try this animal in another venue, that is ok with me.

26 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:18:41pm

So, here;s the takeaway lesson from this:

Organize terror attacks on our civilian and military forces, but make a point to get caught. You'll be fed, clothed, and housed like a guest of honor - so much better than hiding out in Pakistan or Yemen - get medical treatment for the TB you picked up cave-dwelling in Afghanistan (and that infection that slutty goat gave you), and then be released.

R&R.

27 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:18:42pm

re: #11 jmdshort

At first, I wondered what the heck was going on.

However, after I read the article, I realized that this was the best/only thing that could be done. The Judge was ignoring Obama's order regarding ceasing all trials .. so the only way to comply was to drop the charges; with the intent of charging them again once the proceedings can start back up (they aren't releasing anyone).

That's the excuse, sure. How much do you want to bet that there won't be any more charges?

28 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:18:52pm

This really is beyond words. Glen Beck reported this & said , "Maybe those that said that Obama would be weak on the War on Terror are right."
I do not & have never thought that Obama thinks that the Islamists are really bad guys. He blames the U.S for all of this & truly I believe that he harbors Islamic sympathies from his youth.

29 Eowyn2  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:18:55pm

re: #11 jmdshort

At first, I wondered what the heck was going on.

However, after I read the article, I realized that this was the best/only thing that could be done. The Judge was ignoring Obama's order regarding ceasing all trials .. so the only way to comply was to drop the charges; with the intent of charging them again once the proceedings can start back up (they aren't releasing anyone).

what about double jeopardy? Does it apply when charges are dropped?

Can we just let them all go in the middle of the pristine cuban rainforest? How bout the columbian croplands?

30 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:18:56pm

re: #21 Honorary Yooper

I'll bet it's the "Jersey Girls" and nobody else.

Actually I read somewhere that the former Caption of the Cole will be there.

31 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:18:56pm
The legal move by Susan J. Crawford, the top legal authority for military trials at Guantanamo, brings all cases into compliance with Obama’s Jan. 22 executive order to halt terrorist court proceedings at the U.S. Navy base in Cuba. surrender hat in hand to the terrorists freedome fighters

Obama, you just spit on the graves of these 17 Americans who were murdered

32 Kragar  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:19:11pm

Pig fucking SOB

33 Ben Hur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:19:19pm

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and predict that this won't stop the Jihad.

34 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:19:21pm

re: #14 nyc redneck

he is a fcking disgrace.

even if these charges can be reinstated later, his message is clear.
he cares more abt. world opinion than he does his own country.

The way I see it is he cares more about appeasing Islamofascists than he does about the military or citizens of the U.S.

35 davesax  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:19:37pm

I'm speechless.

36 Eowyn2  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:19:40pm

re: #17 Bubbaman

While I am one of the biggest critics of Osama bin Obama. we really don't know what the circumstances are. The charges were dropped without prejudice so the feds can later re-try this scumbag. My initial thoughts are that a trial would have revealed covert intel.


imho: these people are POWs. there shouldn't even be trials

37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:20:05pm

A shudder just went through the entire US military.

38 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:20:07pm

re: #33 Ben Hur

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and predict that this won't stop the Jihad.

that's a bold prediction. I'll join you, and say that I predict we'll have some weather at some point.

39 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:20:41pm

This just p*sses me off so bad ...how would you feel if your son or daughter died aboard the USS Cole ...I didn't like Obama before ...but now I just want to spit on him ...why did he do this? ...

40 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:21:03pm

re: #21 Honorary Yooper

I'll bet it's the "Jersey Girls" and nobody else.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. They can all sit around & trash Bush.

41 Ay, Caramba  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:21:19pm

Amazing. Minutes after the dropped charges were announced all jihadists disarmed and went back home.

/

42 Bubbaman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:21:25pm

re: #19 Nevergiveup

Yeas and No. If they decide to move all these little gems to the US and try them in Civil courts, most will go free because of rules of evidence to national security concerns being exposed. That is why Military Tribunals in Gitmo were the answer.

Absolutely! That's why I suspect that the fed's dropped the case. Now that Osama bin Obama is in power, the rules have changed.

Cheney is right. Be scared, very scared.

43 Eowyn2  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:21:28pm

re: #21 Honorary Yooper

I'll bet it's the "Jersey Girls" and nobody else.

that was my first thought.

44 stevieray  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:21:29pm

Well, the guy unclenched his fist... what could Obama do?

45 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:21:30pm

re: #36 Eowyn2

imho: these people are POWs. there shouldn't even be trials

They're not even POW's .... that's a status granted by virtue of complying with the Geneva Conventions for which they do not qualify. No uniform, no POW.

46 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:21:32pm

re: #11 jmdshort

At first, I wondered what the heck was going on.

However, after I read the article, I realized that this was the best/only thing that could be done. The Judge was ignoring Obama's order regarding ceasing all trials .. so the only way to comply was to drop the charges; with the intent of charging them again once the proceedings can start back up (they aren't releasing anyone).


The problem with that argument, however, is that their main argument against the GWB-era policy is that these guys were not getting their day in court.

Now we are delaying their day in court. Why? So we can try them in a US Circuit court?

47 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:21:34pm

re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A shudder just went through the entire US military.

nah, he'll just shoot some hoops with the grunts. maybe make a 3 pointer for the cameras, have a few photos taken and all will be forgiven

/

48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:21:53pm

Now I have to go try to sell something.

Do people purchase from pissed off people?

49 wiffersnapper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:00pm

Fuck your change

50 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:06pm

re: #11 jmdshort

At first, I wondered what the heck was going on.

However, after I read the article, I realized that this was the best/only thing that could be done. The Judge was ignoring Obama's order regarding ceasing all trials .. so the only way to comply was to drop the charges; with the intent of charging them again once the proceedings can start back up (they aren't releasing anyone).

There will not be additional charges.
The O is meeting with families, today I think, is what I heard, to "explain" things to them.

51 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:07pm

re: #22 Ay, Caramba

How long before Michelle O. starts wearing a burka as a show of solidarity.

Can't happen. 99% of her credibility is contained in her designer wardrobe.

52 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:07pm

re: #34 pink freud

The way I see it is he cares more about appeasing Islamofascists than he does about the military or citizens of the U.S.

he has a soft spot for jihadis.
he has moslem relatives.
he has lived in moslem countries.
he has a moslem middle name.
he thinks we think he is "cool".

53 Vinnie  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:08pm

Gary Swenchonis, father of one of the murdered sailors, also refused to meet with Teh Messiah.

Read what he has to say here.

54 Perplexed  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:14pm

Could have been my kid killed in that mess.

Obama had a chance to do what is right and he muffed that as well. Thanks for nothing Obama.

55 mad mullah  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:16pm

Obama's a disgrace.

56 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:34pm

re: #33 Ben Hur

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and predict that this won't stop the Jihad.

Got room on that limb?

57 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:34pm

re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A shudder just went through the entire US military.

That says volumes, without further need for elaboration.

58 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:42pm

re: #46 DeafDog

The problem with that argument, however, is that their main argument against the GWB-era policy is that these guys were not getting their day in court.

Now we are delaying their day in court. Why? So we can try them in a US Circuit court?

GREAT POINT!

59 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:47pm

re: #33 Ben Hur

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and predict that this won't stop the Jihad.

Ironically, my fists are uncontrollably clenching as I type.

60 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:22:53pm

re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now I have to go try to sell something.

Do people purchase from pissed off people?

Ann sells a lot of books...

61 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:23:02pm

re: #52 nyc redneck

he has a soft spot for jihadis.
he has moslem relatives.
he has lived in moslem countries.
he has a moslem middle name.
he thinks we think he is "cool".

And also, don't forget, he "won".

62 loggiedog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:23:07pm

Our President is incompetent and will probably make Jimmy Carter look like a respectable individual, if not a saint, when all is said on 1/20/2013. Hopefully the Iranian nukes won't have gone off by then. I am not impressed with this president, and even the MSM is slowly starting to see the truth in the same way that the UN is starting to see Hamas for the monsters that they are--too little too late.

63 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:23:09pm

re: #31 Shug

Obama, you just spit on the graves of these 17 Americans who were murdered

Frank Marshall Davis, Saul Alinksy, Bill Ayers ...would be/are so proud.

Their boy done good.

64 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:23:10pm

re: #51 iLikeCandy

Can't happen. 99% of her credibility is contained in her designer wardrobe.

Okay, then just a ski mask.

65 sngnsgt  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:23:11pm

When do their welfare benefits kick in?

66 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:23:18pm

This reminds me of when Clinton wouldn't salute the Marines when leaving Marine One.

Only this is a lot worse

67 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:24:17pm

re: #52 nyc redneck

he has a soft spot for jihadis.
he has moslem relatives.
he has lived in moslem countries.
he has a moslem middle name.
he thinks we think he is "cool".

is that like connecting the dots?

68 Kragar  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:24:20pm

re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A shudder just went through the entire US military.

"Damn, looks like we weren't able to take any prisoners again. Crying shame."

69 Ay, Caramba  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:24:22pm

re: #64 HelloDare

Okay, then just a ski mask.

Yes, please.

70 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:24:23pm

re: #51 iLikeCandy

Can't happen. 99% of her credibility is contained in her designer wardrobe.

Not a problem...

71 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:24:29pm

It's been what, about two and a half weeks so far? And Obama's already shown that he is not ready for the office. I fear for the near future right now.

If the rest of his administration is like these two and a half weeks, it's gonna be a very long four years indeed.

72 jamgarr  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:24:33pm

Then he brings in the greiving families to explain that it's really not what it looks like.

/Spit!

73 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:24:40pm

re: #52 nyc redneck

he has a soft spot for jihadis.
he has moslem relatives.
he has lived in moslem countries.
he has a moslem middle name.
he thinks we think he is "cool".

Isn't his middle name, Hussein? Is it ok to say it now, you know since he swore in that way.

74 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:25:24pm

I'm so pissed right now. Obama's a bleeding heart f---ing coward. Nothing more.

75 Bubbaman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:25:41pm

Every single relative of those who perished in the WTC, Pentagon, Cole bombing ... needs to call the WH now, and organize a mass protest outside the Osama bin Obama domicile.

76 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:25:51pm

re: #65 sngnsgt

When do their welfare benefits kick in?

They've been living off the tit the whole time in Gitmo

77 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:26:06pm

I'm willing to bet this decision has significantly weakened his support among the few people in the military who did support him, not to mention the JCOS. This is a despicable act and I'm willing to bet that if he does decide to tackle "don't ask, don't tell", he'll be rebuffed by the JCOS with extreme prejudice.

78 MJ  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:26:35pm

JAMES TARANTO has this take on the issue:

In fact, the dismissal of charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri was an insignificant development, as detailed in this Associated Press story. Charges against all other Guantanamo detainees, including 9/11 planner Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, had already been dismissed pursuant to President Obama's executive order halting the military-commission process pending review. The presiding judge in the al-Nashiri trial had effectively defied the order by scheduling an arraignment for today. His superior overruled him, and properly so. Whatever the merits of Obama's policies, he is the commander in chief, and military officers have a duty to follow his orders.

Al-Nashiri and the other defendants are not about to be turned loose. The cases against them were dismissed without prejudice, which means new charges can be brought against them. And they are still enemy combatants. Obama has declared his intention to remove them from Guantanamo by January, but he has not pledged to free them. Releasing these terrorists would endanger American security. Delaying their trial, or refraining from putting them on trial at all, would not....

79 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:26:39pm

re: #27 Charles

That's the excuse, sure. How much do you want to bet that there won't be any more charges?

Actually, I'd take that bet. Either charges will be re-filed, or delaying tactics will keep this scumbag locked up anyway. Obama knows perfectly well that if he just lets the guy walk, he'll be handing the GOP a potent weapon to use in 2010. He has no interest in seeing the bomber walk.

80 sngnsgt  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:26:54pm

re: #76 Nevergiveup

They've been living off the tit the whole time in Gitmo

True, thanks for the correction.

81 jamgarr  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:27:01pm

Did you see Gibbs at the presser today trying to explain that the reason for the dismissal was that O is pissed that the wheels of justice weren't turning fast enough.

/The follow-up question was obvious

82 Ben Hur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:27:03pm

Video: Keep Gitmo Open

83 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:27:03pm

re: #75 Bubbaman

Every single relative of those who perished in the WTC, Pentagon, Cole bombing ... needs to call the WH now, and organize a mass protest outside the Osama bin Obama domicile.

Why? Do you think it would shame the man, cause him to reconsider his policies and positions, or, in truth, do anything other than interfere with the quiet serenity of his furtive smoke-breaks?

84 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:27:09pm

re: #64 HelloDare

Okay, then just a ski mask.


I was thinking something like this.

85 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:27:17pm

re: #77 Jetpilot1101

I'm willing to bet this decision has significantly weakened his support among the few people in the military who did support him, not to mention the JCOS. This is a despicable act and I'm willing to bet that if he does decide to tackle "don't ask, don't tell", he'll be rebuffed by the JCOS with extreme prejudice.

He will not be ruffed, these are executive orders. But he might not be received well.

86 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:28:14pm

re: #71 Honorary Yooper

It's been what, about two and a half weeks so far? And Obama's already shown that he is not ready for the office. I fear for the near future right now.

If the rest of his administration is like these two and a half weeks, it's gonna be a very long four years indeed.

This is what happens when a guy who is a benificiary of Affirmative Action get's the top job.
A Senator is one of one hundred, he now has the big job & is demostrating that he is swmming in the deep end of the pool without his floaties.

87 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:28:54pm

re: #83 Guanxi88

Why? Do you think it would shame the man, cause him to reconsider his policies and positions, or, in truth, do anything other than interfere with the quiet serenity of his furtive smoke-breaks?

Do you really think he has the capacity for shame?

88 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:29:28pm

re: #87 pink freud

Do you really think he has the capacity for shame?

Of course not; his entire biography to date shows that.

89 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:29:53pm

re: #87 pink freud

Do you really think he has the capacity for shame?

Maybe we should remake his campaign slogan of "Hope and Change" to "Dope with no Shame".

90 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:30:01pm

re: #27 Charles

That's the excuse, sure. How much do you want to bet that there won't be any more charges?

That will be the true outrage, but since it is a thing that happens over a long period of time, there will be no sudden outcry. Yet another way for the big Zero to do what he wants with little or no bad press.

91 Occasional Reader  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:30:05pm

Later, campers; probably much later. Enjoy your Friday evenings.

92 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:30:16pm

re: #79 Occasional Reader

Actually, I'd take that bet. Either charges will be re-filed, or delaying tactics will keep this scumbag locked up anyway. Obama knows perfectly well that if he just lets the guy walk, he'll be handing the GOP a potent weapon to use in 2010. He has no interest in seeing the bomber walk.

I guess we'll see. I wouldn't underestimate Obama's arrogance, though. It may seem logical that he wouldn't want to give his opponents ammunition, but hubris often trumps logic.

93 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:30:17pm

it couldn't happen here.

94 turn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:30:19pm

"Obama was to meet with families of the USS Cole and 9/11 victims at the White House on Friday afternoon and may announce the move."

Did this meeting take place? Oh man I bet he gets an ear-full from the families, what a slap in the face. They no doubt want justice served quickly and this decision is surely going to prolong their agony.

95 Ben Hur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:30:20pm

re: #79 Occasional Reader

Actually, I'd take that bet. Either charges will be re-filed, or delaying tactics will keep this scumbag locked up anyway. Obama knows perfectly well that if he just lets the guy walk, he'll be handing the GOP a potent weapon to use in 2010. He has no interest in seeing the bomber walk.


Laur already asked him if he was worried about 100s of Willy Hortons.

96 Guanxi88  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:30:34pm

re: #95 Ben Hur

Laur already asked him if he was worried about 100s of Willy Hortons.

Racist!

97 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:30:45pm

I hate to say this but I've got to. As despicable an act as this is, I would rather this *really bad word* reveal himself early - like he's goddammed doing - and wake some of the idiot bastards that voted for him as to what they've done.
There's a solid 1/3 or more of the electorate that are beyond all help but I also think that the delta between them (the committed commies) and the 52% that voted for him still contains some sentient beings that might be awakened by these types of actions. I still want to slap them but better they become aware of what they've wrought than to stay asleep.......

98 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:31:08pm

re: #74 logboy

I'm so pissed right now. Obama's a bleeding heart f---ing coward. Nothing more.

Obama noww has the blood of 17 United States Navy Personnel on his hands.

99 Bubbaman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:31:17pm

re: #74 logboy

I'm so pissed right now. Obama's a bleeding heart f---ing coward. Nothing more.

No, I don't think he will have any problem jailing law-abiding Americans who disagree with his socialist, totalitarian policies. He'll gladly ban free speech and arrest those who dare speak up.

Seig Hoffnung!

100 Zimriel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:31:28pm

Pray.

101 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:32:02pm

re: #37 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A shudder just went through the entire US military.

you are so right abt that.
they knew pres. bush had their backs.
now they have to contend w/ a C.I.C. who would sell them out to benefit terrorists.
(O has said on the campaign trail that our troops were air raiding villages and killing innocent women and children. this is what he thinks of our military)

102 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:32:47pm

re: #79 Occasional Reader

Actually, I'd take that bet. Either charges will be re-filed, or delaying tactics will keep this scumbag locked up anyway. Obama knows perfectly well that if he just lets the guy walk, he'll be handing the GOP a potent weapon to use in 2010. He has no interest in seeing the bomber walk.

As you are channeling Obama, why go through this? The main Democratic argument against Gitmo detainees is that they were denied due process. What's the end game here? Are we going to change venues to Judge Ito or what?

103 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:32:50pm

Fox is going to have on the Capt. Of the USS Cole soon about his meeting with Obama?

104 Ben Hur  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:33:22pm

God Caught on Google Street View Giving the World a Hug

Game changer?

105 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:33:26pm

Just got an email from Nightline. With everything that's going on, quess who ABC will be interviewing this evening?

Cynthia McFadden Interviews Oscar Nominee Kate Winslet

106 sngnsgt  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:33:26pm

DUmmies rejoice!

107 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:33:44pm

re: #92 Charles

I guess we'll see. I wouldn't underestimate Obama's arrogance, though. It may seem logical that he wouldn't want to give his opponents ammunition, but hubris often trumps logic.

And leftist idealogical hubris is the worst kind. Can lead to a 100 milllion dead from demonstrated past performance..........

108 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:33:54pm

Glen Beck is going to have on the Captain of the Cole & the father of one of the dead sailors.

109 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:33:58pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

It's utterly disgusting that the CiC would allow the murderer of our military personnel to go untried. Did I say it's utterly disgusting? I did? I'll say it again.

Utterly disgusting.

Can't top what you said. so I bolded it.

110 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:34:02pm

re: #105 HelloDare

Just got an email from Nightline. With everything that's going on, quess who ABC will be interviewing this evening?

Cynthia McFadden Interviews Oscar Nominee Kate Winslet

Naked?

111 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:34:24pm

re: #103 Nevergiveup

Fox is going to have on the Capt. Of the USS Cole soon about his meeting with Obama?

Glenn Beck is supposed to have them on, but he is reporting that they aren't being allowed back on WH grounds for the interview!

112 Penny T. Wienerdog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:34:26pm

Obama just pissed on the graves of those 17 servicemembers. Beyond appalling!

113 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:34:33pm

re: #98 Dustyvet

Obama noww has the blood of 17 United States Navy Personnel on his hands.

The blood on his hands will be the blood of those killed as a result of this failure to hold the perps accountable.

114 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:34:58pm

re: #110 Nevergiveup

Naked?

Doubt it. I think they would have mentioned it. What with ratings and all..

115 Bubbaman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:35:03pm

re: #100 Zimriel

Pray.

Yes, Pray but carry one of these and these.

116 Oxnuts  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:35:09pm

Yay, I finally made it in. Only took a year :)

117 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:35:09pm

re: #111 loppyd

Glenn Beck is supposed to have them on, but he is reporting that they aren't being allowed back on WH grounds for the interview!

I guess that's maybe a indication how the meeting went?

118 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:35:27pm

Oh, fuck.

119 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:35:28pm

re: #114 HelloDare

Doubt it. I think they would have mentioned it. What with ratings and all..

Not Sweeps week eh?

120 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:35:28pm

What would Col Jessup Say

All you did is weaken a country today. That's all you did.

121 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:36:27pm

re: #116 Oxnuts

Yay, I finally made it in. Only took a year :)

Welcome

{Who left the door open?}

122 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:36:40pm

re: #67 brookly red

is that like connecting the dots?

LOL, sort of.
i like to keep it simple.

123 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:36:44pm

re: #110 Nevergiveup

Naked?

As long as it's Kate that's naked. Cynthia might look good in some fetish gear.

124 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:37:17pm

Registration is indeed open, folks.

125 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:37:19pm

re: #120 Shug

What would Col Jessup Say

I love that movie and my wife loves the faggady whites.

126 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:37:32pm

re: #122 nyc redneck

what boro?

127 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:37:49pm

re: #117 Nevergiveup

I guess that's maybe a indication how the meeting went?

If it's true....this is the brilliant campaigner?

128 stuiec  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:38:10pm

re: #92 Charles

I guess we'll see. I wouldn't underestimate Obama's arrogance, though. It may seem logical that he wouldn't want to give his opponents ammunition, but hubris often trumps logic.

Oh, I'm confident that charges will be refiled. I'm not confident, however, of what type of venue they'll be refiled in. It may be that by stopping the tribunals as currently constituted, Obama has made sure these men can never be challenged with the evidence of their guilt due to the different rules that will apply in the courts they face in future.

129 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:38:12pm

re: #22 Ay, Caramba

How long before Michelle O. starts wearing a burka as a show of solidarity.

Soon, I hope.

130 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:38:30pm

re: #116 Oxnuts

Yay, I finally made it in. Only took a year :)

I guess reg is open.

Welcome Oxnuts.

/Now there is something I never thought I would ever say.

131 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:38:38pm

re: #109 FrogMarch

Thanks!

132 Tazzerman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:38:39pm

I just heard that the families declined to meet with Obama. Is this TRUE? Does anyone know for sure?

133 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:38:48pm

re: #121 DeafDog

Welcome

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134 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:39:08pm

re: #61 reine.de.tout

And also, don't forget, he "won".

he did?

reine, the only book i found here does not have the chapter i mentioned.
i'll check in the city, next wk. it could be in "slander".

135 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:39:22pm

Obama Doctrine: Terrorists Freed, Bush and Cheney Jailed.

136 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:39:26pm

re: #132 Tazzerman

I just heard that the families declined to meet with Obama. Is this TRUE? Does anyone know for sure?

Apparently some did. Ben Hur had something on that up a ways in the thread

137 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:39:36pm

re: #129 unreconstructed rebel

Soon, I hope.

Let's hope she dons the niqab also.

138 capitalist piglet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:40:06pm

Regardless of what Obama's endgame is (and you have far more confidence in him than I do, if you think this will have a positive outcome), he has to know how this appears in the short term.

I feel like America has been taken over by its own enemies.

139 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:40:07pm

AAAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Gibbs the dough boy is going to crawl under the podium to suck his thumb soon.

Video: White House flummoxed by Feinstein threat

140 tackle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:40:08pm

Okay, let's summarize:
-Skips the Medal of Honor Ball.
-Obama nullifies every legal order and opinion on interrogations issued by any lawyer in the executive branch after Sept. 11, 2001
-He signs an executive order to close Gitmo and freeze military commissions there.
-He gives his first tv interview to an Arab-owned network.
-He appoints several lobbyists to his staff after promising not to.
-He rehires Samantha Power.
-Congress gives itself a raise
-The Obama administration asks Iran to unclench their fists.
-An American is kidnapped in Pakistan
-Iran launches a satellite into orbit.
-Obama is chronically late.
-Obama appoints 3+ people who haven't payed their taxes.
-Obama tries to ram through a democratic wish list disguised as a stimulus bill.
-“We were just tired of being in the White House,” –Obama
-Obama drops charges against the mastermind of the Cole bombing.

What'd I miss?

141 Bubbaman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:40:25pm

re: #135 faraway

Obama Doctrine: Terrorists Freed, Bush and Cheney Jailed.

Well, you know one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

142 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:40:52pm

re: #134 nyc redneck

he did?

reine, the only book i found here does not have the chapter i mentioned.
i'll check in the city, next wk. it could be in "slander".

'k.

143 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:41:11pm

re: #44 stevieray

Well, the guy unclenched his fist... what could Obama do?

I'm thinking the only reason this lot will unclinch a fist is to bitch-slap Barry.

144 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:41:23pm

re: #140 tackle

Okay, let's summarize:
-Skips the Medal of Honor Ball.
-Obama nullifies every legal order and opinion on interrogations issued by any lawyer in the executive branch after Sept. 11, 2001
-He signs an executive order to close Gitmo and freeze military commissions there.
-He gives his first tv interview to an Arab-owned network.
-He appoints several lobbyists to his staff after promising not to.
-He rehires Samantha Power.
-Congress gives itself a raise
-The Obama administration asks Iran to unclench their fists.
-An American is kidnapped in Pakistan
-Iran launches a satellite into orbit.
-Obama is chronically late.
-Obama appoints 3+ people who haven't payed their taxes.
-Obama tries to ram through a democratic wish list disguised as a stimulus bill.
-“We were just tired of being in the White House,” –Obama
-Obama drops charges against the mastermind of the Cole bombing.

What'd I miss?

Obama resigns ...

145 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:41:25pm

Michelle is so VERY PROUD of America -- now.

It isn't gonna last. She'll have to have a handler before the next four years are over.

146 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:41:41pm

re: #126 brookly red

what boro?

manhattan.
(tho i did live in brookly one yr,)

147 Viking6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:41:54pm

I can help but feel that the United States will be Detroit in 4 years.

/apologies to anyone living there.

148 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:42:28pm

Alaska volcano on verge of venting
Area braces for what scientists see as likely

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

It's about time Palin unloads on them all!

149 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:42:31pm

Gary Swenchonis, a Texas resident whose son, Gary Jr., was killed in the Cole bombing, told FOX News he turned down an invitation from the White House to meet with Obama. Swenchonis said he received the invitation Thursday, and that he did not care to travel from Texas to Washington on such short notice to hear the "bad news" that charges were withdrawn in the al-Nashiri case.
"Diane McDaniels, whose son was killed in the Cole bombing, also declined an invitation to meet the president, saying she was too disillusioned with Obama for dropping the charges."

....hope.....change.....B.S.
Appeasement!

150 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:42:51pm

re: #147 Viking6

I can help but feel that the United States will be Detroit in 4 years.

/apologies to anyone living there.

You mean winless?

151 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:43:02pm
152 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:43:10pm

Beck back from break:

Still no Cole family members or the Capt.

153 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:43:38pm

re: #147 Viking6

I can help but feel that the United States will be Detroit in 4 years.

/apologies to anyone living there.

There's nothing you can say to us that will hurt us any worse than living her already does

154 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:43:43pm

re: #140 tackle


What'd I miss?

You missed a lot, unfortunately, but the one that is most relevant here, IMO, is that snub Obama pulled on the wounded soldiers when he was campaigning in Germany?

155 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:43:50pm

re: #77 Jetpilot1101

I'm willing to bet this decision has significantly weakened his support among the few people in the military who did support him, not to mention the JCOS. This is a despicable act and I'm willing to bet that if he does decide to tackle "don't ask, don't tell", he'll be rebuffed by the JCOS with extreme prejudice.

One of my colleagues is thinking the time has come for a whole bunch of us to refuse to pay our taxes. Like a million or two.

156 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:43:51pm

re: #135 faraway

Obama Doctrine: Terrorists Freed, Bush and Cheney Jailed.

charges against former presidents might be considered by some grounds for armed revolt...but then maybe not

157 Viking6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:44:13pm

re: #150 Nevergiveup

more like the capital of the rust belt

158 suitepotato  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:44:20pm

re: #140 tackle

Okay, let's summarize:
-Skips the Medal of Honor Ball.
-Obama nullifies every legal order and opinion on interrogations issued by any lawyer in the executive branch after Sept. 11, 2001
-He signs an executive order to close Gitmo and freeze military commissions there.
-He gives his first tv interview to an Arab-owned network.
-He appoints several lobbyists to his staff after promising not to.
-He rehires Samantha Power.
-Congress gives itself a raise
-The Obama administration asks Iran to unclench their fists.
-An American is kidnapped in Pakistan
-Iran launches a satellite into orbit.
-Obama is chronically late.
-Obama appoints 3+ people who haven't payed their taxes.
-Obama tries to ram through a democratic wish list disguised as a stimulus bill.
-“We were just tired of being in the White House,” –Obama
-Obama drops charges against the mastermind of the Cole bombing.

What'd I miss?

Nothing. I quoted this because such a list should be composed and kept as a sticky at every blog out there.

159 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:44:46pm

re: #155 unreconstructed rebel

One of my colleagues is thinking the time has come for a whole bunch of us to refuse to pay our taxes. Like a million or two.

You mean your gonna re-register as democrats?

160 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:44:50pm

re: #145 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Michelle is so VERY PROUD of America -- now.

It isn't gonna last. She'll have to have a handler before the next four years are over.

She probably already has a handler. With a muzzle and a leash.

161 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:45:17pm

Good Afternoon Lizards! Hope everyone is doing ok today..
You know what open registration is like? It's like the NFL draft.
Many are drafted but few make it in the league...
Think about that hatchlings...Can't wait to meet the new Lizards! Welcome

162 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:45:19pm

re: #111 loppyd

Glenn Beck is supposed to have them on, but he is reporting that they aren't being allowed back on WH grounds for the interview!

What is that all about?

163 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:45:20pm

re: #155 unreconstructed rebel

One of my colleagues is thinking the time has come for a whole bunch of us to refuse to pay our taxes. Like a million or two.


The Obama Cabinet : Two million strong!

164 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:45:25pm

re: #140 tackle

Okay, let's summarize:
-Skips the Medal of Honor Ball.
-Obama nullifies every legal order and opinion on interrogations issued by any lawyer in the executive branch after Sept. 11, 2001
-He signs an executive order to close Gitmo and freeze military commissions there.
-He gives his first tv interview to an Arab-owned network.
-He appoints several lobbyists to his staff after promising not to.
-He rehires Samantha Power.
-Congress gives itself a raise
-The Obama administration asks Iran to unclench their fists.
-An American is kidnapped in Pakistan
-Iran launches a satellite into orbit.
-Obama is chronically late.
-Obama appoints 3+ people who haven't payed their taxes.
-Obama tries to ram through a democratic wish list disguised as a stimulus bill.
-“We were just tired of being in the White House,” –Obama
-Obama drops charges against the mastermind of the Cole bombing.

What'd I miss?

this is overwhelming evidence that he is not fit to be pres.
at least not pres. of the united states.

165 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:45:41pm

re: #140 tackle

Okay, let's summarize:
-Skips the Medal of Honor Ball.
-Obama nullifies every legal order and opinion on interrogations issued by any lawyer in the executive branch after Sept. 11, 2001
-He signs an executive order to close Gitmo and freeze military commissions there.
-He gives his first tv interview to an Arab-owned network.
-He appoints several lobbyists to his staff after promising not to.
-He rehires Samantha Power.
-Congress gives itself a raise
-The Obama administration asks Iran to unclench their fists.
-An American is kidnapped in Pakistan
-Iran launches a satellite into orbit.
-Obama is chronically late.
-Obama appoints 3+ people who haven't payed their taxes.
-Obama tries to ram through a democratic wish list disguised as a stimulus bill.
-“We were just tired of being in the White House,” –Obama
-Obama drops charges against the mastermind of the Cole bombing.

What'd I miss?

- He brought in Josh DuBois, alleged pastor, a former/present Sojourner (read Communist) community organizer, as his head of faith-based whatever.
- Census now reports to him directly - plus the Porkulus has $1 billion for the Census (read Dem gerrymandering tool)

166 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:45:41pm

Someone who committed a war crime to kill 17 Americans - drop charges.
Pollard - still life in prison.

Now, for those who think Pollard should still be locked up, if Pollard deserves life, then what does this scumbag deserve?
And since the 0 has already dropped charges for this terrorist, think Pollard has done enough time?

167 Amer-I-Can  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:45:46pm

Is it 2012 yet? Maybe the Mayans had it right. At this rate, there may not be much left by the time we can vote him out of office.

168 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:45:48pm

re: #139 loppyd

AAAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Gibbs the dough boy is going to crawl under the podium to suck his thumb soon.

Video: White House flummoxed by Feinstein threat

Yeah, but it's tax cuts not pork that she has problems with.
"...in this state of the economy, I don't believe tax cuts are stimulative."

169 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:45:53pm

re: #125 Nevergiveup

re: #120 Shug

What would Col Jessup Say

I love that movie and my wife loves the faggady whites.

Sorry for the unsolicited buttinsky into your conversation....but since you axed :) I would like to point out the irony that Meathead no doubt intended Jessup to be evil, in much the same was as Normie Lear intended Archie Bunker to be evil.
In both cases the libtards 'feel' for where their villians would rank in the estimation of their audience was dead wrong.
Bottom line is - liberals don't know shit about human nature.........and we put them in charge of stuff at our great peril.

170 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:45:57pm

re: #160 Soona'

She probably already has a handler. With a muzzle and a leash.

I wonder if that was one of Raum's top recommendations.

171 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:46:00pm

re: #147 Viking6

I can help but feel that the United States will be Detroit in 4 years.

/apologies to anyone living there.

I've been thinking the same.

172 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:46:36pm

re: #149 IslandLibertarian

Gary Swenchonis, a Texas resident whose son, Gary Jr., was killed in the Cole bombing, told FOX News he turned down an invitation from the White House to meet with Obama. Swenchonis said he received the invitation Thursday, and that he did not care to travel from Texas to Washington on such short notice to hear the "bad news" that charges were withdrawn in the al-Nashiri case.
"Diane McDaniels, whose son was killed in the Cole bombing, also declined an invitation to meet the president, saying she was too disillusioned with Obama for dropping the charges."

....hope.....change.....B.S.
Appeasement!

Appeasement was not the Change we needed.

173 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:46:37pm

re: #155 unreconstructed rebel

One of my colleagues is thinking the time has come for a whole bunch of us to refuse to pay our taxes. Like a million or two.

It would have to be more than a million to really send a message. More like 20 to 30 million.

174 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:46:45pm

re: #151 Iron Fist

Let me be polite about it. The goddamn motherfucker is a fucking traitor. He should be impeached, removed from office, and put on trial for treason.

Obviously, I don't expect that to really hapen. The fucking Democrats are basically all traitors, too. Nothing matters to them except that they gain and retain power.

And the Republicans are pussies. They should have been calling the fucking Democrats from, well, the fucking minute they started commiting treason. The was probably when Dick Durbin (D-al Qaeda) went on the floor of the Senate to read al Qaeda propaganda and slanders against ourtroops into the Congressional Record.

(In case you haven't noticed, I'm enraged by this. This is, without question, treason. That should be said repeatedly until Barack Hussein Obama is removed from office and imprisoned for the rest of his natural life in Ft. Leavenworth)

I've been kicking this idea around myself...it would be nice if BO would explain his motives so that aiding and abetting doesnt seem so obvious

175 Oxnuts  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:04pm

re: #161 HoosierHoops

Im game :)

176 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:11pm

re: #151 Iron Fist

Or, as John McCain would say, let's all try to be bi-partisan about this:)

177 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:26pm

re: #92 Charles

I guess we'll see. I wouldn't underestimate Obama's arrogance, though. It may seem logical that he wouldn't want to give his opponents ammunition, but hubris often trumps logic.

The guy features himself a constitutional scholar.

178 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:38pm

re: #167 Amer-I-Can

Is it 2012 yet? Maybe the Mayans had it right. At this rate, there may not be much left by the time we can vote him out of office.

IF we can vote him out of office. In my more paranoid moments, I have doubts that the last election wasn't rigged. In my saner times, I think it was just the MSM that rigged it.

179 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:38pm

re: #155 unreconstructed rebel

One of my colleagues is thinking the time has come for a whole bunch of us to refuse to pay our taxes. Like a million or two.

you colleagues here have been saying the same thing

180 Bubbaman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:41pm

At some level, many people are surprised by this. I'm not. Elections have consequences and now we are all paying for this. Comeon, we all knew what Barry Osama bin Obama was all about? He cavorted with terrorists and gangsta's and anti-American preachers. He came on the scene with the most liberal voting record (albeit a short one) of any member in Congress. Americans were dumb enough to vote for this monster and to borrow from his most admired anti-American screed, "the chickens have come home to roost".

181 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:46pm

The Navy Hymn

In memory of 17 Crew Members of the USS Cole (DDG-67)


Youtube Video
182 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:46pm

re: #154 DeafDog

You missed a lot, unfortunately, but the one that is most relevant here, IMO, is that snub Obama pulled on the wounded soldiers when he was campaigning in Germany?

As I recall he did not go because the Commander at the hospital would not allow a photo op. BHO is as bad as we think he is.

183 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:46pm

re: #149 IslandLibertarian

Gary Swenchonis, a Texas resident whose son, Gary Jr., was killed in the Cole bombing, told FOX News he turned down an invitation from the White House to meet with Obama. Swenchonis said he received the invitation Thursday, and that he did not care to travel from Texas to Washington on such short notice to hear the "bad news" that charges were withdrawn in the al-Nashiri case.
"Diane McDaniels, whose son was killed in the Cole bombing, also declined an invitation to meet the president, saying she was too disillusioned with Obama for dropping the charges."

....hope.....change.....B.S.
Appeasement!

While I can understand how they must feel, I think I would have accepted the invitation, and given this public servant who works for me a piece of my mind.

184 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:55pm

re: #169 LGoPs

Sorry for the unsolicited buttinsky into your conversation....but since you axed :) I would like to point out the irony that Meathead no doubt intended Jessup to be evil, in much the same was as Normie Lear intended Archie Bunker to be evil.
In both cases the libtards 'feel' for where their villians would rank in the estimation of their audience was dead wrong.
Bottom line is - liberals don't know shit about human nature.........and we put them in charge of stuff at our great peril.

Your right and the idiots should NEVER have cast Jack in that role. What a mistake.

185 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:47:59pm

re: #162 opnion

What is that all about?

I woke up from my coma like nap (still sick) and he said they were going to be on the show, then after the break he said they had just wrapped up the meeting with Barry, but now are unable to get back to the WH for the interview....?

They still aren't on. Waiting to see what he says - show is almost over.

186 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:48:09pm

re: #159 Nevergiveup

You mean your gonna re-register as democrats?

Why not? Lookit how well they are doing?

187 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:48:12pm

re: #155 unreconstructed rebel

One of my colleagues is thinking the time has come for a whole bunch of us to refuse to pay our taxes. Like a million or two.

The way it's going, there may only be a million or two taxpayers left.

188 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:48:33pm

re: #167 Amer-I-Can

Is it 2012 yet? Maybe the Mayans had it right. At this rate, there may not be much left by the time we can vote him out of office.

Good point.

189 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:48:58pm

re: #177 unreconstructed rebel

The guy features himself a constitutional scholar.

Yes. Who doesn't think the Warren court was that liberal because it didn't break from the restraints of the constitution. Or some nonsense like that.

190 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:49:16pm

re: #170 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I wonder if that was one of Raum's top recommendations.

Rahmulus and Ream-us

191 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:49:19pm

re: #168 HelloDare

Yeah, but it's tax cuts not pork that she has problems with.
"...in this state of the economy, I don't believe tax cuts are stimulative."

Even so I'll take her no vote today.

Collins is also waffling.

BWAAAHAHAHA

192 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:49:30pm

re: #140 tackle

Okay, let's summarize:
-Skips the Medal of Honor Ball.
-Obama nullifies every legal order and opinion on interrogations issued by any lawyer in the executive branch after Sept. 11, 2001
-He signs an executive order to close Gitmo and freeze military commissions there.
-He gives his first tv interview to an Arab-owned network.
-He appoints several lobbyists to his staff after promising not to.
-He rehires Samantha Power.
-Congress gives itself a raise
-The Obama administration asks Iran to unclench their fists.
-An American is kidnapped in Pakistan
-Iran launches a satellite into orbit.
-Obama is chronically late.
-Obama appoints 3+ people who haven't payed their taxes.
-Obama tries to ram through a democratic wish list disguised as a stimulus bill.
-“We were just tired of being in the White House,” –Obama
-Obama drops charges against the mastermind of the Cole bombing.

What'd I miss?

-And he's still President........?

193 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:49:37pm

re: #167 Amer-I-Can

Is it 2012 yet? Maybe the Mayans had it right. At this rate, there may not be much left by the time we can vote him out of office.

So what you are saying is that Obama is the man your Maya warned you about

194 Bubbaman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:49:37pm

Gotta run! Have a good weekend all and let's start impeachment proceedings pronto!

195 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:50:02pm

re: #161 HoosierHoops

Good Afternoon Lizards! Hope everyone is doing ok today..
You know what open registration is like? It's like the NFL draft.
Many are drafted but few make it in the league...
Think about that hatchlings...Can't wait to meet the new Lizards! Welcome

I guess I'm like an undrafted free agent then

196 Tazzerman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:50:24pm

blockquote>Okay, let's summarize:
-Skips the Medal of Honor Ball.
-Obama nullifies every legal order and opinion on interrogations issued by any lawyer in the executive branch after Sept. 11, 2001
-He signs an executive order to close Gitmo and freeze military commissions there.
-He gives his first tv interview to an Arab-owned network.
-He appoints several lobbyists to his staff after promising not to.
-He rehires Samantha Power.
-Congress gives itself a raise
-The Obama administration asks Iran to unclench their fists.
-An American is kidnapped in Pakistan
-Iran launches a satellite into orbit.
-Obama is chronically late.
-Obama appoints 3+ people who haven't payed their taxes.
-Obama tries to ram through a democratic wish list disguised as a stimulus bill.
-“We were just tired of being in the White House,” –Obama
-Obama drops charges against the mastermind of the Cole bombing.

What'd I miss?

Here's a few more.

-Signed the S-CHIP legislation
-Signed exec order to put aside the Mexico City rule regarding federal funds for offshore abortion clinics
-Brought Jamie Gorelick back into his transition team

197 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:50:25pm

re: #170 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I wonder if that was one of Raum's top recommendations.

Maybe that's what she meant when she told those grade schoolers that they let her loose.

198 Amer-I-Can  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:50:27pm

re: #193 Shug

So what you are saying is that Obama is the man your Maya warned you about

ugh!

199 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:50:33pm

re: #191 loppyd

Even so I'll take her no vote today.

Collins is also waffling.

BWAAAHAHAHA

I'll take it, too. This give more time for people to figure out what is really going on. They're getting screwed. And their children are getting screwed.

200 tackle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:50:41pm

re: #140 tackle

What'd I miss?


I suppose I could add:
-Obama rule that prohibits U.S. money from funding international family-planning clinics that promote abortion or provide counseling or referrals about abortion services.
Want an abortion? Fine. Pay for the damn thing yourself.

201 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:50:44pm

re: #146 nyc redneck

manhattan.
(tho i did live in brookly one yr,)

we got candels, crakers, spam & water, see ya round. /

202 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:50:52pm

re: #192 LGoPs

-And he's still President........?

The really sad part is that half the country believes the above list to be a resume enhancer.

203 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:51:07pm

re: #187 DeafDog

The way it's going, there may only be a million or two taxpayers left.

That's why it could work. Not that many of us at the oar-bank.

204 Lee Coller  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:51:18pm

re: #11 jmdshort

At first, I wondered what the heck was going on.

However, after I read the article, I realized that this was the best/only thing that could be done. The Judge was ignoring Obama's order regarding ceasing all trials .. so the only way to comply was to drop the charges; with the intent of charging them again once the proceedings can start back up (they aren't releasing anyone).

Yes, but what's going to happen when the civilian judge discovers the defendents were never read their Miranda rights?

205 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:51:42pm

re: #185 loppyd

I woke up from my coma like nap (still sick) and he said they were going to be on the show, then after the break he said they had just wrapped up the meeting with Barry, but now are unable to get back to the WH for the interview....?

They still aren't on. Waiting to see what he says - show is almost over.


He just said that they are hoping to get back into the White House.
Maybe the meeting didn't go well.

206 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:51:42pm

re: #175 Oxnuts

Im game :)

How the heck did you get 4 updings in a half hour newbe?
Are you a ringer on the company softball team?
Welcome!

207 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:51:47pm

re: #190 faraway

Rahmulus and Ream-us

Is that what you Caligula them?

/not one of my best -- long day

208 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:52:20pm

re: #155 unreconstructed rebel

One of my colleagues is thinking the time has come for a whole bunch of us to refuse to pay our taxes. Like a million or two.

That would work better if we didn't have a system of withholding that results in most people being owed a refund by the IRS at the end of the year.

209 Viking6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:52:23pm

re: #171 DeafDog

I don't think I have every been this disappointed and disheartened, even during the Carter fiasco. The utter lack of common sense that has been swept into the White House is beyond the my Neanderthal (real old school) ability to comprehend.

210 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:52:41pm

re: #197 Soona'

Maybe that's what she meant when she told those grade schoolers that they let her loose.

Hmmmm. Could be.

211 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:52:47pm

re: #185 loppyd

Oh , get well soon.

212 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:53:12pm

Jake Tapper is going to be found in a trunk with duct tape over his mouth one of these days.


Today's Qs for O's WH -- 2/6/09

TAPPER: The president later today is going to be meeting with a bunch of families of terrorist victims. A lot of the people he's going to be meeting with take issue with his decision to stop the military commissions. They say that it's been through an extensive legal and legislative review, the Supreme Court has weighed in, and they don't understand what concerns the president has in this process. Could you explain, what are some of the concerns the president has specifically about the military commissions?

GIBBS: Well, I think the main concern that the president has is the military commission's failure to bring those in detention to swift justice. The president invited family members, families of those that were killed in -- first in the USS Cole incident in 2000, and next in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and wants to discuss his plan to bring about changes in Guantanamo that he believes will make this country safer and bring about the very same swift justice that they desire on behalf of those that they know that have been killed.

TAPPER: I'm sorry. How does delaying or even renewing the trials make it any swifter?

GIBBS: Well, I'd -- I'd -- the act that the Cole families are disappointed -- the act that the Cole families were affected by happened in 2000. We've not yet seen justice brought now in 2009 to Mr. al-Nashiri. Judge Crawford withdrew the charges without prejudice to reinstatement of those charges. Mr. al-Nashiri remains in detention. And her decision brings all cases into compliance with the executive order that the president issued. But -- but I think if you look at the number of those awaiting justice and those that have gone through the process, I think you'll see quite clearly that very few -- very few have been brought to justice. The discussion that the president looks forward to having today is part of the ongoing process with how to move forward. I don't believe that the families affected by the terrorist incident with the USS Cole have -- have seen -- they certainly haven't seen this president, and I don't believe they saw the last president either. And the president thought it was important to listen to their very personal cares and their concerns about anything that's involved in this process.

TAPPER: The arraignment of al-Nashiri was supposed to be Monday, but because of the executive order, the president -- Crawford suspended -- withdrew the charges. I still don't understand, and -- how this is going to make the justice any swifter. I understand the cases that haven't been heard for other detainees --

GIBBS: Well, without getting into some of the specific aspects of this case, I think the president believed that the best course of action going forward to bring about the justice that both he and the families seek in this case was to go through the very process that Judge Crawford has done and the executive order that the president has signed.

***

Note: After the briefing, Gibbs emailed me an explanation that makes more sense. "The President believes that military commissions as currently constructed will be the subject of years of litigation, which we are trying to avoid as its been long enough for many of these families," he said. "The President believes that the process he’s put in place will create a firmer and more sound legal framework to move forward."

- jpt

Gibbs is a boob. He has to email the talking points after the briefings.

213 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:53:25pm

Don't worry about not paying taxes. If 0bama is as competent with the economy as he is with foreign policy, we won't be making enough to pay taxes.
We'll be trading stone axes instead.
At least then, if the government tries to take the axes, you can hit the tax collector with the ax.

214 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:53:26pm

re: #11 jmdshort

Thanks, that makes some sense.

I never like relying solely on my knee jerk reactions.

There is almost always another side to the story.

215 unreconstructed rebel  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:53:51pm

It's time to go get very drunk. Y'all have a grand weekend.

216 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:54:16pm

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

still campaigning for popularity...this is tasteless...he rallys but does not explain...
hey stupid the vote in the senate

217 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:54:17pm

FOX- democrats reporting deal on stimulus ? Shit!

218 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:54:24pm
219 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:54:26pm

I remember the good ole days when we thought Hillary was evil.

220 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:54:51pm

The Terrorism Stimulus Package keeps paying dividends!

221 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:55:10pm

re: #219 faraway

I remember the good ole days when we thought Hillary was evil.

But she still cackles?

222 Penny T. Wienerdog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:55:38pm

re: #115 Bubbaman

Yes, Pray but carry one of these and these.

I hope you keep them well-hidden in some vault when Pres. Hope-n-change sends his Hitler Obama Youths after them.

223 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:55:55pm

re: #217 Nevergiveup

FOX- democrats reporting deal on stimulus ? Shit!

I wonder if it means Republicans came on board or simply that enough Dems are for it to pass it?

224 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:55:58pm

re: #217 Nevergiveup

FOX- democrats reporting deal on stimulus ? Shit!

We'll see. Hot Air is reporting they need 3 Republicans for cloture since Kennedy is gone.

225 Gella  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:12pm

so from now on, u can go to a killing spree and u will get away with that? just great..........

226 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:19pm

Stimulus cave-in watch: Here comes the “compromise”
By Michelle Malkin • February 6, 2009 05:37 PM
Just in from Congress Daily. Grab your wallets. The “compromise” is coming…
Friday, February 6, 2009
Senate Moderates Reach Tentative Stimulus Deal
A group of Senate moderates working on an amendment to cut up to $100 billion in spending from the economic stimulus package have completed a tentative proposal that will be presented to Senate Democrats at a 5:30 p.m. caucus meeting, Senate Budget Chairman Kent Conrad told reporters. “There is a proposal that is sufficiently fleshed out and we will have a caucus and discuss it,” Conrad said after emerging from talks in Senate Majority Leader Reid’s office. Democrats hope the proposal, developed by Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Ben Nelson, R-Neb. [SIC], will attract several GOP supporters and be acceptable to all Democrats, which would allow for passage of the plan as early as tonight.
Details will be posted on CongressDaily’s Web at [Link: www.nationaljournal.com...] site as they become available.

227 jorline  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:19pm

I wouldn't trust working for this administration if life depended on it.

Panetta Says CIA Interrogators Won't Face Prosecution

President Obama's nominee for CIA chief, Leon Panetta, formally retracted a statement he made Thursday that the Bush administration transferred prisoners for the purpose of torture.

The Obama administration will not prosecute CIA officers who participated in harsh interrogations that critics say crossed the line into torture, CIA Director-nominee Leon Panetta said Friday.

Next month...

The Obama administration will not prosecute CIA officers who participated in harsh interrogations that critics say crossed the line into torture, CIA Director-nominee Leon Panetta said Friday.

Will not...will...will not...will the real official policy please stand up.

228 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:23pm
229 Kragar  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:39pm

re: #219 faraway

I remember the good ole days when we thought Hillary was evil.

Makes you look back at Operation Chaos and wonder WTF were people thinking

230 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:40pm

re: #225 Gella

so from now on, u can go to a killing spree and u will get away with that? just great..........

Only if you invoke the name of your god first./

231 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:45pm

re: #221 Nevergiveup

But she still cackles?

Watch out. You'll get thrown under the house.

232 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:49pm

re: #216 albusteve

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

still campaigning for popularity...this is tasteless...he rallys but does not explain...
hey stupid the vote in the senate

Of course he's campaigning, there's an election in less than 4 years.

233 J.S.  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:55pm

And, in Canada, of course, the lawyer for a bomber such as Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri would, no doubt, be screaming: "He's been tortured, I tell you! Tortured!" and demanding a multi-million dollar settlement...

234 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:56:59pm

re: #223 mean Gene

I wonder if it means Republicans came on board or simply that enough Dems are for it to pass it?

HOT AIR

Update (Ed): Duane Patterson of the Hugh Hewitt Show tells me that the Democrats have to get 60 votes by rule for cloture, not just 3/5ths of the quorum. Ted Kennedy is too ill to attend, which means Reid needs three Republican votes — and it looks like he might not get them.

235 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:57:10pm

re: #209 Viking6

I don't think I have every been this disappointed and disheartened, even during the Carter fiasco. The utter lack of common sense that has been swept into the White House is beyond the my Neanderthal (real old school) ability to comprehend.

Speaking of which....

236 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:57:11pm

re: #140 tackle

Okay, let's summarize:
-Skips the Medal of Honor Ball.
-Obama nullifies every legal order and opinion on interrogations issued by any lawyer in the executive branch after Sept. 11, 2001
-He signs an executive order to close Gitmo and freeze military commissions there.
-He gives his first tv interview to an Arab-owned network.
-He appoints several lobbyists to his staff after promising not to.
-He rehires Samantha Power.
-Congress gives itself a raise
-The Obama administration asks Iran to unclench their fists.
-An American is kidnapped in Pakistan
-Iran launches a satellite into orbit.
-Obama is chronically late.
-Obama appoints 3+ people who haven't payed their taxes.
-Obama tries to ram through a democratic wish list disguised as a stimulus bill.
-“We were just tired of being in the White House,” –Obama
-Obama drops charges against the mastermind of the Cole bombing.

What'd I miss?

puppies, & apple pie/

237 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:57:25pm

And this is just the first two weeks. What other surprises lurk in store for us. Oh Joy. Rapture.

238 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:57:31pm
Unless the Obama administration gets its act together, it risks being perceived as incompetent.

[Link: www.nationaljournal.com...]

239 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:57:50pm

re: #212 loppyd

Jake Tapper is going to be found in a trunk with duct tape over his mouth one of these days.

Gibbs is a boob. He has to email the talking points after the briefings.

The Pres. needs to fill Gibbs in on things before he goes out to face the press.

When Gibbs looks like an idiot, Obama doesn't look so good either.

People, anyone, should make sure their employees have the information they need to properly do their jobs.

Gibbs seems to be coming out to these press conferences with no information at all.

Or, he's a complete idiot.

240 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:57:50pm

re: #211 opnion

Oh , get well soon.

Thanks. It's getting old fast.

241 J.S.  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:57:56pm

re: #228 ploome hineni

So the bomber can file a multi-million dollar civil suit against the U.S. government?

242 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:58:20pm

re: #239 reine.de.tout

The Pres. needs to fill Gibbs in on things before he goes out to face the press.

When Gibbs looks like an idiot, Obama doesn't look so good either.

People, anyone, should make sure their employees have the information they need to properly do their jobs.

Gibbs seems to be coming out to these press conferences with no information at all.

Or, he's a complete idiot.

I say both.

243 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:58:24pm

re: #217 Nevergiveup

FOX- democrats reporting deal on stimulus ? Shit!


Which Republicants folded?

244 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:58:33pm

re: #218 Iron Fist

At the State of the Union Address, Obama screams "Alahu Ackbar!" and blows


Yeah, it'll be hard for Obama to top this. I guess he could scream "Allahu ackbar!" and blow himself up in the middle of a joint Session of Congress.

Barring that, I guess he could piss on an American flag while singing the National Anthem of the Soviet Union. I'm sure there are other ways he could distinguish himself as an anti-American traitor. Truth is, he's probably trying to figure out how he can do it right now. I imagine that he will be inventive. After all, he has four more years to do shit like this.

I wouldn't have thought it possible, but Obama is proving to be a worse President than I expected him to be.

simply redefine patriotism...then redefine treason....rewrite history... use the MSM for propaganda....it's all there, every element

245 Lee Coller  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:58:34pm

re: #236 brookly red

puppies, & apple pie/

You missed his speech from last night. Probably one of the worst speeches ever given by a sitting president.

246 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:58:35pm
247 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:58:48pm

re: #212 loppyd

Jake Tapper is going to be found in a trunk with duct tape over his mouth one of these days.


Gibbs is a boob. He has to email the talking points after the briefings.


The White House should just set up a face book page and the press corps can leave questions and Gibbs can reply when he has a chance to look up the answers

248 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:58:50pm

re: #228 ploome hineni

..........anyone know why NObama would do this?

Because he is a motherfucking traitorous America-hating commie asshole.

Other than that, no.

249 ProUSA  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:59:13pm

And he has invited the families of the murdered sailors to meet with him? What kind of Commander In Chief is this idiot? Don't answer that. I already have my opinion, and I am sticking to it.

I understand the value of a civillian CIC, but the founders -- despite a lot of foresight -- surely did not anticipate a socialist, anti-American, anti-military, dip-ass to be in charge.

Arrrgggg!

250 Lincolntf  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:59:13pm

re: #212 loppyd

He really is hopeless.

251 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:59:13pm

re: #212 loppyd

Why wait, duct tape is in aisle 4 at Home Depot.

252 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:59:45pm

re: #245 Lee Coller

You missed his speech from last night. Probably one of the worst speeches ever given by a sitting president.

They should have called it the "We have much more to fear that fear itself" speech.

253 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:59:46pm

re: #199 HelloDare

I'll take it, too. This give more time for people to figure out what is really going on. They're getting screwed. And their children are getting screwed.

Hell, their future sperm and ovum are getting screwed.........

254 SurferDoc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:59:52pm

Collins and Nelson to help Democrats pass compromise Stimulus 780B...

255 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 2:59:55pm

Did Beck still have his 'Socialism Update'?

256 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:00:11pm

Not one Democrat can see through this crap?
Not one Democrat has the balls to vote against this crap?

257 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:00:33pm

CLAIM: MODERATE REPUBLICANS CUT DEAL
—Ace

You fucking bastards.

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

258 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:00:37pm

re: #253 LGoPs

Hell, their future sperm and ovum are getting screwed.........

And according to Nancy Pelosi the have lost their jobs as well.

259 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:00:44pm

re: #254 SurferDoc

Collins and Nelson to help Democrats pass compromise Stimulus 780B...

Oooh, only 780B? Lets vote for it!

F-ing cavers.

260 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:00:51pm

re: #232 CyanSnowHawk

Of course he's campaigning, there's an election in less than 4 years it's all he knows how to do.

261 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:01:12pm

re: #246 Iron Fist

I'm assuming it is because he hates America and loves the Terrorists. Other than that, I'm completely baffled. Maybe he wants to make sure his approval rating doesn't get too high. A guard against hubris.

When (or if) the polls begin to show that his approval rating on this has fallen, I expect to see the current process that he claims he wants to shorten, with some sort of minor insignificant change, being rolled out with great fanfare.

262 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:01:25pm
263 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:01:52pm

re: #254 SurferDoc

Collins and Nelson to help Democrats pass compromise Stimulus 780B...

M Steele should cut them out of the GOP if that's the case....we need to hammer him

264 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:01:54pm

re: #245 Lee Coller

You missed his speech from last night. Probably one of the worst speeches ever given by a sitting president.

no I heard it loud & clear :)

265 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:01:56pm

re: #251 logboy

Why wait, duct tape is in aisle 4 at Home Depot.

That is about the only item in the Roi's toolbox.

Duct tape fixes everything.

266 faraway  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:00pm

Better go. I thought it was still morning.

267 capitalist piglet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:01pm

Pretty soon we're talking about real money.

268 DEZes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:21pm

re: #219 faraway

I remember the good ole days when we thought Hillary was evil.


Ditto that, Obama cuddled up with Ayers, is dropping charges against know terrorists, he is closing Gitmo and maybe bringing the prisoners to the States.
And the Moonbats think its great, I weep for a nation.

269 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:22pm

re: #254 SurferDoc

Collins and Nelson to help Democrats pass compromise Stimulus 780B...

Primary challenge ----> Michael Steele? Are you listening?

270 Kulhwch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:28pm

What a pusillanimous craven coward Barry is. We should have given the position to Michelle, at least she appears to have the balls to stand up to the Cowards of the Koran ...

}:)     [Thanks for showing the whole world how weak you are, POTUS!]

271 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:30pm

Good thing they executed the Bali Bombers or he'd be trying to free them

272 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:31pm

re: #256 HelloDare

Not one Democrat can see through this crap?
Not one Democrat has the balls to vote against this crap?

Feinstein might.

273 J.S.  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:38pm

re: #261 reine.de.tout

Yeah, what's happened to all the polls -- during The One's campaign it was a poll each and every hour, on the hour...suddenly, they all dry up? what's with that?

274 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:45pm

Dems admit they are not there yet.
Everytime they get rid of enough to gain the 2 or 3 Republican votes they lose a Democrat or 2!

This might be fun if it weren't so stupid and bad.

275 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:48pm

Carl Cameron saying it's close.

Call now!

Scroll for updates…The Friday night cave-in is about to begin…Collins[no phone numbers allowed] Snowe[no phone numbers allowed] Voinovich[no phone numbers allowed] Specter[no phone numbers allowed]…If you make just one call, make it Specter’s office. I’m told that he is the ringleader making this happen…Give him hell…

276 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:02:48pm

re: #243 DeafDog

Which Republicants folded?

The usual. Snow and Nelson. I knew the earlier news was too good to be true.

277 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:03:04pm

re: #212 loppyd

Jake Tapper is going to be found in a trunk with duct tape over his mouth one of these days.


Gibbs is a boob. He has to email the talking points after the briefings.

In fairness to Gibbs, the only person really suited to this job is the Mouth Of Sauron........
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278 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:03:12pm

re: #228 ploome hineni

..........anyone know why NObama would do this?

putting down our military so he can show the jihadis he is serious abt. getting their approval and reaching an understanding w/ them.
he is enamored of the moslem world and thinks his role is being a bridge for them.
fcking idiot.

279 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:04:01pm

re: #257 Nevergiveup

CLAIM: MODERATE REPUBLICANS CUT DEAL
—Ace

You fucking bastards.

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]


I posted this earlier today,but it is worth repeating. Micheal Steel should tell any Republican who votes for the bill that they will receive no funding from the RNC.

280 bellamags  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:04:05pm

re: #278 nyc redneck

putting down our military so he can show the jihadis he is serious abt. getting their approval and reaching an understanding w/ them.
he is enamored of the moslem world and thinks his role is being a bridge for them.
fcking idiot.

yep. right on. upding.

281 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:04:15pm

re: #275 loppyd

Carl Cameron saying it's close.

Call now!

Scroll for updates…The Friday night cave-in is about to begin…Collins[no phone numbers allowed] Snowe[no phone numbers allowed] Voinovich[no phone numbers allowed] Specter[no phone numbers allowed]…If you make just one call, make it Specter’s office. I’m told that he is the ringleader making this happen…Give him hell…

C'mon loppy, you know better than to try to post phone numbers. Post a link to the contact pages.

282 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:04:17pm

I can't post the numbers for the senate offices?

283 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:04:18pm

re: #276 Soona'

The usual. Snow and Nelson. I knew the earlier news was too good to be true.

Nelson's a Democrat.

284 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:04:30pm

CLAIM: MODERATE REPUBLICANS CUT DEAL
Snowe, Collins, and Specter; Still Questionable if Democrats Can Hold Their More Moderate Members Like Nelson, Webb, Tester, Etc.
—Ace

285 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:04:55pm

re: #282 loppyd

I can't post the numbers for the senate offices?

I think that's ok

286 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:04:56pm

re: #257 Nevergiveup

I sure wish this guy had been elected for these troubled economic times:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

What we desperately need is someone who actually knows how the private sector (you know the largest sector in the nation-until Obama gets done with it) really works in creating real jobs and wealth...

287 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:04:57pm

If all Dems stay they need 2 Republicans.
Call!

288 DeafDog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:05:07pm

Everyone have a good weekend!

Yabba-dabba-doo!

289 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:05:33pm

re: #278 nyc redneck

putting down our military so he can show the jihadis he is serious abt. getting their approval and reaching an understanding w/ them.
he is enamored of the moslem world and thinks his role is being a bridge for them.
fcking idiot.

If we build a bridge to them, they'll just blow it up anyway.

290 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:05:33pm

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291 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:05:45pm

re: #281 CyanSnowHawk

C'mon loppy, you know better than to try to post phone numbers. Post a link to the contact pages.

C'mon Hawk, you know what a link looks like.
Call Now.
/I really need to read the whole post before I reply.

292 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:05:47pm

Hello

293 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:06:11pm

re: #263 albusteve

M Steele should cut them out of the GOP if that's the case....we need to hammer him

My next GOP survey will be mentioning those two punk RINOs specifically.

294 bellamags  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:06:14pm

I think Obama is going to blow his stack. He doesn't do well off script and he shows his emotions to easily. I will be interested to see how he reacts if this porkus stimulus gets shot down.

295 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:06:20pm

What a pile of steaming crap:

"It is inexcusable and irresponsible for any of us to get bogged down in distraction, delay or politics as usual while millions of Americans are being put out of work."
-- President Obama on the delay of the "stimulus" package.

296 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:06:42pm

re: #292 laxmi

Hello

Howdy!

297 Lincolntf  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:06:46pm

re: #292 laxmi

Hello.

298 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:06:53pm

re: #292 laxmi

Hello

Welcome.

299 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:06:56pm

re: #282 loppyd

I can't post the numbers for the senate offices?

No phone numbers at all. I did eventually manage to see your link back to MM that had them however.

300 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:07:05pm

re: #294 bellamags

I think Obama is going to blow his stack. He doesn't do well off script and he shows his emotions to easily. I will be interested to see how he reacts if this porkus stimulus gets shot down.

That would be fun to see, wouldn't it?

301 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:07:31pm

re: #299 CyanSnowHawk

No phone numbers at all. I did eventually manage to see your link back to MM that had them however.

Why can't you post US GOV phone numbers?

302 bellamags  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:07:34pm

re: #300 reine.de.tout

That would be fun to see, wouldn't it?

popcorn worthy. LOL

303 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:07:51pm

re: #280 bellamags

thanks bellamags.
:D

304 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:07:52pm

re: #281 CyanSnowHawk

C'mon loppy, you know better than to try to post phone numbers. Post a link to the contact pages.

I'm on drugs. Sorry.

Call Spector
Call Snow
Call Voinovich

305 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:07:55pm

re: #292 laxmi

Hello

Hi.

306 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:07:57pm

re: #292 laxmi

Hello

Welcome! what's up?

307 DEZes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:01pm

re: #292 laxmi

Hello

Hiya!

308 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:07pm
309 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:18pm

re: #301 Nevergiveup

Why can't you post US GOV phone numbers?

I would assume that it's an automatic feature that deletes all phone numbers.

310 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:20pm

Specters mailbox is are full...heh...no shit?

311 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:23pm

re: #295 HelloDare

Yeah, if they screw this bucket of crap up and their vaunted 'stimulus' does nothing, they can just print/borrow another trillion and try again.
I mean...what's the worst that could happen ?
Very sad.

312 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:28pm

re: #283 lobo91

Nelson's a Democrat.

Oops! Snow and What's-His-Name.

313 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:30pm

re: #228 ploome hineni

..........anyone know why NObama would do this?

Choice #1 - Cause he's a traitorous, anti-American commie bastard....?

Wait, that's too easy. It has to be more of a refined, nuanced reason........

Nah.. I'll take #1

314 bellamags  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:31pm

re: #303 nyc redneck

ur welcome ; )

315 sngnsgt  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:37pm

Charges against USS Cole Bomber dropped.

Charges against George Bush in 5...4...3...2...

316 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:41pm

This time, I am more convinced that this might have some validity.

It is Friday night. They usually pull shit like this now.

317 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:08:49pm

re: #292 laxmi

Hello

What does your avatar represent?

318 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:09:02pm

re: #308 ploome hineni

he had these three in his office for a special stroking seccion

nothing succeeds as well as dividing your opponents

Well especially if they are treacherous spineless bastards

319 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:09:07pm

re: #292 laxmi

The dot on your forehead looks dim. Check your battery.

320 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:09:07pm

You can't make this stuff up:

Obama's Tardiness Sets Him Apart From Bush

WASHINGTON -- There's a new time zone in the nation's capital: Obama Time.

Barely two weeks into his presidency, Barack Obama has made a clean break from George W. Bush in several high-profile moves, including reversing a number of the 43rd president's policies.

He's also reversed an unwritten but much-noticed Bush policy: Be on time, all the time.

Obama has been routinely late to events and news conferences, including the ones at which he reversed Bush's orders. This has led to an already familiar refrain from the Obama camp: "He's running late."

CHANGE!

321 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:09:16pm

I got real bad vibes concering our military:

How many of our senior NCO's and Officers are going to put in their papers, rather the serve under a CIC that could give a shit less about our men and women in uniform.

The same idea covers the enlisted.

322 capitalist piglet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:09:17pm

re: #295 HelloDare

What a pile of steaming crap:

"It is inexcusable and irresponsible for any of us to get bogged down in distraction, delay or politics as usual while millions of Americans are being put out of work."
-- President Obama on the delay of the "stimulus" package.

No, by all means, let's not critically examine what we're voting on. I mean, come on...it's only money. There's more where that came from.

/

323 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:09:26pm

I guess these are the terrorists we are fighting.

"Words matter in this situation because one of the ways we're going to win this struggle is through the battle of hearts and minds," Obama said. "I think it is very important for us to recognize that we have a battle or a war against some terrorist organizations, but that those organizations aren't representative of a broader Arab community, Muslim community."


Obama with Anderson Cooper.

324 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:09:32pm

re: #312 Soona'

Oops! Snow and What's-His-Name.

Snowe, Collins and Specter.

325 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:09:40pm

Obama will own all the consequences of these types of actions. As CIC, he should be ashamed of himself.

326 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:09:51pm

re: #304 loppyd

Yes, Spector's mailbox is full. Of course no answer.

327 marinegrunt  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:10:02pm

I fear that this ^%^&*&^&%#@@ of a President will have the blood of many American citizens on his hands before he gets booted out of office or gets the Carter treatment after four years.

328 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:10:17pm

re: #310 albusteve

Specters mailbox is are full...heh...no shit?

I just got the same thing!

329 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:10:21pm

re: #316 formercorpsman

Yup...always on a Friday. They are not only bastards, they are cowardly bastards.
And they keep getting re-elected...

330 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:10:30pm

It's going to pass. It was going to pass the day they brought it up. Knowing the inevitability of it, I was hoping for sooner than this since that would have given the weasels a little less time to slather the lard in.

331 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:10:36pm

re: #292 laxmi

Hello

hello back... now NYC pizza or pan pizza?, the lines are drawn :)

332 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:10:54pm

re: #323 jcm

I guess these are the terrorists we are fighting.


Obama with Anderson Cooper.

intentionally vague...I hate that in a person

333 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:11:13pm

re: #321 Dustyvet

I got real bad vibes concering our military:

How many of our senior NCO's and Officers are going to put in their papers, rather the serve under a CIC that could give a shit less about our men and women in uniform.

The same idea covers the enlisted.

I'll let you know if I heart anything this weekend

334 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:11:37pm

re: #332 albusteve

intentionally vague...I hate that in a person

I possibly agree.

335 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:11:39pm

re: #301 Nevergiveup

Why can't you post US GOV phone numbers?

Charles does not want any phone numbers posted. Too much of a headache. Numbers can be mistyped, readers can abuse them, the numbers can change after a while and comments persist in the archives. Those are just a few reasons. It is better to post a link to where the number is available. A dead link doesn't really bother the new owner.

336 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:11:44pm

re: #331 brookly red

hello back... now NYC pizza or pan pizza?, the lines are drawn :)

I like think pizza....would that qualify as NYC pizza?

337 DEZes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:11:47pm

re: #320 Who Watches the Watchmen?

You can't make this stuff up:

Obama's Tardiness Sets Him Apart From Bush


CHANGE!


Now tardiness will be sung as a virtue by our lame brained media.
This shit just keeps getting worse.

338 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:11:48pm
339 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:12:19pm

re: #323 jcm

a battle or a war against some terrorist organizations

Obviously the Twelvers didn't make Obambi's list.

340 bellamags  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:12:28pm

re: #336 loppyd

I like think pizza....would that qualify as NYC pizza?

Obama needs some of that.

341 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:12:37pm

o is going to get people killed.
that's how fcking dumb he is.
or unconcerned.

342 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:13:12pm

re: #304 loppyd

I see what you did. Copy and paste from MM.

343 godfrey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:13:37pm

Can the military vote no confidence?

344 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:13:40pm

If it passes there will be inflation to go along with the unemployment.
I posted a bunch of advice I've lived by over the years.
While the book I used on the web page came out in 1992 these principles got me, a newlywed at the time, through Carter's worst times:
[Link: home.earthlink.net...]

345 jaunte  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:13:47pm

re: #320 Who Watches the Watchmen?

"Obama has been routinely late to events and news conferences, including the ones at which he reversed Bush's orders. This has led to an already familiar refrain from the Obama camp: "He's running strolling late."

346 Kragar  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:13:56pm

re: #320 Who Watches the Watchmen?

You can't make this stuff up:

Obama's Tardiness Sets Him Apart From Bush


CHANGE!

Radio guy this morning: "Well, lets enjoy the piano since the President is 10 minutes late. Apparently he is on Obama time again today."

RACISTS!

347 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:00pm

Looks like it's gonna be a rapid migration...from 'Hopenchange' to 'Fearandchange' to 'Brothercanyousparesomechange'....

But hey, elections don't really matter...

348 Cato the Elder  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:05pm

Isn't there a difference between suspending proceedings and dropping charges? What am I missing here?

349 Penny T. Wienerdog  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:14pm

re: #323 jcm

I guess these are the terrorists we are fighting.


Obama with Anderson Cooper.


Sadly, I fear Hopenchange sees our own military as a "terrorist organization."

350 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:20pm

re: #336 loppyd

I like think pizza....would that qualify as NYC pizza?


uh, uh, uh, well uh, maybe, it could be.

351 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:23pm

re: #343 godfrey

Can the military vote no confidence?

No. And that's the way it should be.

It's up to the rest of us.

352 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:27pm

re: #343 godfrey

Can WE vote no confidence ?

353 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:38pm

bet Obama adores these folks.


Youtube Video
354 capitalist piglet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:48pm

Via AllahPundit at HotAir:

Reid suggested to reporters that he had two GOP backers for the bill but needed at least one more because neither wants to be the crucial 60th vote if all 58 members of the Democratic caucus support Obama.

355 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:49pm

re: #321 Dustyvet

I got real bad vibes concering our military:

How many of our senior NCO's and Officers are going to put in their papers, rather the serve under a CIC that could give a shit less about our men and women in uniform.

The same idea covers the enlisted.

So far, everyone I've talked to is cautiously optimistic that he won't cause them to die or starve to death within the next 24 hours.

Beyond that, it's pretty much wait and see.

Seriously, even the handful of people I know who voted for him don't seem to be too impressed so far.

356 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:53pm

FNC reporting that one of the Cole family's refused to meet with Obama.

357 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:14:58pm

re: #343 godfrey

Can the military vote no confidence?

No but they can resign

358 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:15:05pm

He's sending a message to terrorists around the world: attack at will, I'm the kinder more gentle President who will do nothing. What a %$*& disgrace.

359 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:15:12pm

Senate resumes at 6:30 p.m. I can't contain my excitement.

360 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:15:24pm

re: #317 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What does your avatar represent?

It's Laxmi, a Hindu goddess! I don't have as many arms as she does or I would be typing this much faster.

361 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:15:31pm

re: #350 brookly red

uh, uh, uh, well uh, maybe, it could be.

I am looopy. I broke my rule and took some long acting robitussin.

362 DEZes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:15:38pm

re: #345 jaunte

"Obama has been routinely late to events and news conferences, including the ones at which he reversed Bush's orders. This has led to an already familiar refrain from the Obama camp: "He's running strolling late."

Mr. President, you have an important meeting in 5 minutes!
"Can"t I just eat my Waffle?"

363 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:15:40pm

re: #348 Cato the Elder

Isn't there a difference between suspending proceedings and dropping charges? What am I missing here?

nothing...in two weeks nobody will even remember and the bomber will be chillin in Key West

364 goodin510  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:15:58pm

When are we going to hear about how this might tarnish the "Democratic brand"

/chirp

365 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:16:14pm

re: #352 BigMoo

Can WE vote no confidence ?

47% did

366 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:16:14pm

re: #343 godfrey

Can the military vote no confidence?

No.

367 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:16:21pm

re: #361 loppyd

I am looopy. I broke my rule and took some long acting robitussin.

looopy loppy?

368 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:16:54pm

CLAIM: MODERATE REPUBLICANS CUT DEAL
Snowe, Collins, and Specter; Still Questionable if Democrats Can Hold Their More Moderate Members Like Nelson, Webb, Tester, Etc.
Update: Only Two Republicans Voting Yes? And Reid Want
—Ace

You fucking bastards.

369 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:16:55pm

re: #367 nyc redneck

looopy loppy?

That's definitely me. With our without cough medicine!

370 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:17:00pm

re: #361 loppyd

I am looopy. I broke my rule and took some long acting robitussin.

it's all good.

371 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:17:00pm

re: #365 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Touche' !
But, as Hopenchange has repeatedly pointed out..."I won".

372 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:17:04pm

re: #357 Nevergiveup

No but they can resign

Or leave after enlistment ends, or retire.

My brother pulled the pin when slick willie was in the White House.

373 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:17:07pm

re: #343 godfrey

Can the military vote no confidence?

Only by getting out.

Not re-enlisting, or, in the case of officers or senior NCOs, requesting release/resigning.

Keep in mind, however, that the latter don't automatically get approved.

374 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:17:11pm

I was thinking Hey TGIF, then I come here and read this and say ok it's Friday but what world am I now in? we are so fucked with this guy at the helm.

375 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:17:16pm

re: #356 opnion

FNC reporting that one of the Cole family's refused to meet with Obama.

I'd meet with him....then become a world renown celebrity as a result

376 jaunte  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:17:16pm

From the Corner:

$10,286 for Every Middle Class Family
[Marc Thiessen]

John Thune introduced an amendment to scrap the entire stimulus, and replace it with an across the board middle class tax rebate. Ask the average American family—would you prefer Congress spend tens of millions on STD prevention and fish pathways—or sent you a check for $10,286?

WASHINGTON, DC – Senator John Thune today introduced an across-the-board middle class tax rebate amendment (S. AMDT #538) to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Senator Thune’s amendment would strike the entire $936 billion Senate stimulus bill and replace it with a $936 billion across-the-board-middle-class tax rebate for 182 million Americans. The amendment would result in a tax rebate of $5,143 for single filers and $10,286 for married couples who file jointly. Eligibility is capped for all tax filers at 2007 adjusted gross income of $250,000.


[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

377 The Shadow Do  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:17:55pm

Republican senators are not a whit different than alcoholics. They are completely self assured that they can handle their problem (personal weakness with a voracious appetite). The government will not change, but only get worse until they have hit rock bottom. I thought they had hit it with the last election, but they had not.

I do not fault the Democrats, they are doing what they said they would do and got elected. Some Demo talking head was challenged the other evening about creeping Socialism; he said simply that McCain had called out Obama as a Socialist and the American people elected him. And there you have it.

378 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:18:04pm

re: #360 laxmi

It's Laxmi, a Hindu goddess! I don't have as many arms as she does or I would be typing this much faster.

LOL!

I knew "Hindu", but not who. I had an Indian roommate in college (from what had recently, at that time, been Goa), and my present and immediate past dentists are Indian.

379 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:18:09pm

re: #373 lobo91

Only by getting out.

Not re-enlisting, or, in the case of officers or senior NCOs, requesting release/resigning.

Keep in mind, however, that the latter don't automatically get approved.

My cousin is approaching his 20 years in the Marines. The One may make his decision on whether to be a lifer or not much easier.

380 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:18:14pm

re: #376 jaunte

From the Corner:

$10,286 for Every Middle Class Family
[Marc Thiessen]

John Thune introduced an amendment to scrap the entire stimulus, and replace it with an across the board middle class tax rebate. Ask the average American family—would you prefer Congress spend tens of millions on STD prevention and fish pathways—or sent you a check for $10,286?


[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

I hate the whole fucking thing, but if I gotta make a choice....

381 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:18:31pm

re: #344 mean Gene

Excellent!

382 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:18:42pm

re: #375 albusteve

I get your drift...would you throw a loafer or an oxford ?

383 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:18:43pm

Good evening, Lizards.

I just called Arlen Specter's office and left a message.

I misdialed the area code and reached a dear older lady. I apologized profusely, and she graciously explained that she gets tons of mistaken calls. Poor thing!

384 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:18:44pm

re: #368 Nevergiveup

CLAIM: MODERATE REPUBLICANS CUT DEAL
Snowe, Collins, and Specter; Still Questionable if Democrats Can Hold Their More Moderate Members Like Nelson, Webb, Tester, Etc.
Update: Only Two Republicans Voting Yes? And Reid Want
—Ace

You fucking bastards.

sold us out bigtime again...and right in our faces....
I hate the feds with a passion

385 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:18:51pm

re: #375 albusteve

I'd meet with him....then become a world renown celebrity as a result

Does that thought come with shoes?

386 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:19:23pm

Cher: Republican Rule Almost ‘Killed Me’

Grammy award-winning singer and Academy award-winning actress Cher told CNSNews.com that living under Republican rule almost “killed" her, and she does not understand why anyone would want to be a Republican.

She also said that President Barack Obama’s “intelligence” and “spirit” are “so great” he will be able to do “more than anyone could possibly do.”

/geez, everywhere I look nowadays, more clown cars!

387 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:19:42pm

re: #361 loppyd

I hope you shake that very soon.
Hang tough.

388 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:19:50pm

re: #382 BigMoo

I get your drift...would you throw a loafer or an oxford ?

I'd use hush puppies...brushed pig skin you know...:)

389 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:19:54pm

re: #376 jaunte

From the Corner:

$10,286 for Every Middle Class Family
[Marc Thiessen]

WOW! have they defined the word family yet?

390 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:19:56pm

re: #373 lobo91

Only by getting out.

Not re-enlisting, or, in the case of officers or senior NCOs, requesting release/resigning.

Keep in mind, however, that the latter don't automatically get approved.

Personally I don't think we are going to see mass resignations or even many non re-upping for poetical reasons. In one word the economy. And the health insurance don't suck either.

391 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:19:58pm

re: #383 goddessoftheclassroom

His Philly number has been busy for half an hour.

392 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:19:59pm

re: #383 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

I just called Arlen Specter's office and left a message.

I misdialed the area code and reached a dear older lady. I apologized profusely, and she graciously explained that she gets tons of mistaken calls. Poor thing!

How did you get through? Did you call PA or DC?

393 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:20:05pm

re: #376 jaunte

From the Corner:

$10,286 for Every Middle Class Family
[Marc Thiessen]

John Thune introduced an amendment to scrap the entire stimulus, and replace it with an across the board middle class tax rebate. Ask the average American family—would you prefer Congress spend tens of millions on STD prevention and fish pathways—or sent you a check for $10,286?


[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]


No doubt if you make over 140,000 you get jack shit.

394 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:20:10pm

re: #375 albusteve

I'd meet with him....then become a world renown celebrity as a result

I wonder how much time one would get in Leavenworth for slugging the President? Not advocating, just wondering.

395 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:20:21pm

re: #392 loppyd

How did you get through? Did you call PA or DC?

I take that back.

I think I need to go back to bed.

396 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:20:23pm

re: #386 Killian Bundy

I figured it would be her plastic surgeon who eventually does her in.

397 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:20:25pm

re: #375 albusteve

I'd meet with him....then become a world renown celebrity as a result

And I'd come to your funeral.
/

398 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:20:25pm

re: #382 BigMoo

I get your drift...would you throw a loafer or an oxford ?

dont bait me amigo

399 Ay, Caramba  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:21:04pm

BO must actually think that the terrorists are in awe of him like our MSM. They would never challenge his autorratah.

400 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:21:27pm

re: #377 The Shadow Do

Republican senators are not a whit different than alcoholics. They are completely self assured that they can handle their problem (personal weakness with a voracious appetite). The government will not change, but only get worse until they have hit rock bottom. I thought they had hit it with the last election, but they had not.

I do not fault the Democrats, they are doing what they said they would do and got elected. Some Demo talking head was challenged the other evening about creeping Socialism; he said simply that McCain had called out Obama as a Socialist and the American people elected him. And there you have it.

As much as I hate to say it, but the talking head is right.

401 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:21:46pm

re: #383 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH!

402 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:22:03pm

re: #388 Dustyvet

LMAO-Ouch !
Makes me think of the 'Austin Powers' evil henchman who threw shoes-what was his name ?

403 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:22:26pm

I don't believe that I would shake Obama's hand , even if the situation was embarassing.
There are only two pols that I feel that way about, Kerry & Obama.

404 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:22:59pm

The whole world's watching laughing, the whole world's watching laughing!

/send in the clown cars!

405 ciaospirit  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:23:06pm

re: #244 albusteve

simply redefine patriotism...then redefine treason....rewrite history... use the MSM for propaganda....it's all there, every element

Which just got easier since GE, who owns NBC, etc., CEO is now one of his economic advisers.

Obama friend and campaign finance chairwoman Penny Pritzker also is on the board, as is Caterpillar Inc. Chairman-CEO Jim Owens and General Electric Co. CEO Jeffrey R. Immelt.

406 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:23:17pm

re: #398 albusteve

LOL-as they did in Iraq, we'd erect a statue to you-or at least the offending shoe...

407 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:23:24pm

re: #341 nyc redneck

o is going to get people killed.
that's how fcking dumb he is.
or unconcerned.

Was it you the other day who said something along the lines of:
He was a puppet who was having his strings pulled by a group, then he began to believe he was as great as everybody said he was and started trying to think for himself?

It's true.

408 sjm_888  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:23:29pm

If there are any presently serving military persons on board here, how does this dismissal of charges for the Cole attack make you feel?

This Barry guy isn't fit to be commander in chief.

409 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:23:41pm

re: #390 Nevergiveup

Personally I don't think we are going to see mass resignations or even many non re-upping for poetical reasons. In one word the economy. And the health insurance don't suck either.

I've never heard of any soldier re-upping for poetry.
/:)

410 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:23:45pm

re: #386 Killian Bundy

You just have to love people like her trying to tarnish the wealthy born-again christian republicans.

When do you think was the last time she had to do her own laundry?

411 UFO TOFU  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:23:59pm

re: #374 BBev

It's time for a FNDT!

412 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:24:29pm

re: #392 loppyd

How did you get through? Did you call PA or DC?

I called both. His Soutwest PA office's message asked me to call back during business hours, but I did get through to his DC office to leave the message.

413 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:24:31pm

re: #403 opnion

I'm afraid I'd have to add Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Franks, Dodd and Schumer to that list.

414 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:24:41pm

re: #402 BigMoo

LMAO-Ouch !
Makes me think of the 'Austin Powers' evil henchman who threw shoes-what was his name ?

Random Task. A take off on the Bond henchman, Odd Job.

415 Sheepdogess  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:25:05pm

This is Obama's stick in the military's eye.

IHTIAVSPIHFTM

416 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:25:11pm

re: #412 goddessoftheclassroom

I called both. His Soutwest PA office's message asked me to call back during business hours, but I did get through to his DC office to leave the message.

His voice mail box was full at the DC office.

417 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:25:25pm

re: #379 loppyd

My cousin is approaching his 20 years in the Marines. The One may make his decision on whether to be a lifer or not much easier.

He should stick it out,

418 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:25:35pm

re: #383 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

I just called Arlen Specter's office and left a message.

I misdialed the area code and reached a dear older lady. I apologized profusely, and she graciously explained that she gets tons of mistaken calls. Poor thing!

I used to have a job where the office number was close to the number for an STD clinic. Talk about some interesting phone calls!

419 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:25:40pm

re: #411 UFO TOFU

It's time for a FNDT!

I wish, Pacific time zone....
:-(

420 DEZes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:25:46pm

Cher told CNSNews.com that living under Republican rule almost “killed" her.
And I would almost give a damn it did.

421 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:25:48pm

re: #405 ciaospirit

ultra disturbing....this shit is gonna end bad for someone somewhere

422 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:25:53pm

re: #409 Soona'

I've never heard of any soldier re-upping for poetry.
/:)

(Alfred) Joyce Kilmer

423 Tom Taylor  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:01pm

I am sorry for asking, but why does this trail not take place much earlier? Under Bush?

424 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:04pm

re: #390 Nevergiveup

Personally I don't think we are going to see mass resignations or even many non re-upping for poetical reasons. In one word the economy. And the health insurance don't suck either.

Probably not, but I suspect that it will definitely factor into some people's retirement plans.

I personally know three LTCs who are getting ready to put in their retirement papers, even though at least two of them would probably get picked up for O-6 in another year or two.

And I'm doing the same as soon as I meet the 3 year time in grade requirement from my promotion to E-9. I could stay in another 10 years if I wanted, but I remember the Clinton years (and the tail end of the Carter years, actually) in the military.

425 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:06pm

re: #414 CyanSnowHawk

Thats right-he was a great knock off to the great Odd-Job.

426 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:21pm

Officials say tentative stimulus deal reached

427 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:25pm

everyday he is in office is a dangerous day for our country.

428 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:25pm

re: #419 jcm

I wish, Pacific time zone....
:-(

Me too, drink anyway, we're gonna need it.

429 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:25pm

re: #422 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(Alfred) Joyce Kilmer

Wasn't he killed?

430 DEZes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:31pm

re: #420 DEZes

Cher told CNSNews.com that living under Republican rule almost “killed" her.
And I would almost give a damn it did.


If it did/ pimf

431 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:31pm

re: #410 formercorpsman

You just have to love people like her trying to tarnish the wealthy born-again christian republicans.

When do you think was the last time she had to do her own laundry?

Remembering the Quartermaster laundry service in the Army, they used to starch everything...boxer shorts, t-shirts, bath towels...

432 quickjustice  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:37pm

If we're really, really nice to them, maybe they won't hate us! ;-)

433 Spiritualized  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:45pm

Hmmm, file under 'terrorist thug in hypocrisy shocker':

Hamas leader tells rally of supporters in Damascus that Israel cannot dictate terms for ceasefire after losing war in Gaza. For first time Palestinians have won a direct war with the enemy, he says.

So if the "Palestinians" have been losers all this time (heh.) Then why have they been dictating terms the past 60 years? This terrorist needs to not be breathing already.

434 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:26:49pm

re: #378 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL!

I knew "Hindu", but not who. I had an Indian roommate in college (from what had recently, at that time, been Goa), and my present and immediate past dentists are Indian.

How about your local Kwik-e Mart owner? We are trying to be more inclusive!

435 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:27:04pm

re: #390 Nevergiveup

Clinton was the reason I did not stay on in 1993.

436 UFO TOFU  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:27:11pm

re: #419 jcm

I wish, Pacific time zone....
:-(

Oh, me too.

Crap, no one told me there were rules...

437 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:27:19pm

re: #238 faraway

[Link: www.nationaljournal.com...]

Too late.

438 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:27:21pm

re: #431 Dustyvet


Yes... the good old days.

439 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:27:32pm

re: #406 BigMoo

LOL-as they did in Iraq, we'd erect a statue to you-or at least the offending shoe...

I dreamed about the opportunity Joe had when BO sauntered up into the yard with his video and homies....a different result I swear

440 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:27:46pm

re: #420 DEZes

Cher told CNSNews.com that living under Republican rule almost “killed" her.
And I would almost give a damn it did.


And living under a Democrat my let her drop the "almost".

441 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:28:11pm

780 Billion dollars

flushed down the f***ing toilet

442 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:28:24pm

re: #429 Nevergiveup

Wasn't he killed?

Yes. In the Second Battle of the Marne.

443 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:28:25pm

re: #428 CynicalConservative

Me too, drink anyway, we're gonna need it.

there isn't enough alchohol

444 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:28:27pm

re: #383 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

I just called Arlen Specter's office and left a message.

I misdialed the area code and reached a dear older lady. I apologized profusely, and she graciously explained that she gets tons of mistaken calls. Poor thing!

I use to have an old Pizza Hut phone number, after the first hundred calls and explaining it I started to take orders,

445 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:28:33pm

re: #408 sjm_888

If there are any presently serving military persons on board here, how does this dismissal of charges for the Cole attack make you feel?

I'll reserve judgment until after I see what happens with the case. If they reinstate the charges, and he's ultimately convicted, fine. If he walks as a result of this stunt, I'll be pissed.

446 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:28:49pm

I have an idea.

Don't panic.
We tell the Democrats that the Earth is going to get eaten by a giant star goat, so we need to get everyone to another planet.
They will get the first space ark, of course.

Hey, it worked for the Golgafrinchans.

447 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:28:56pm

re: #420 DEZes

Cher told CNSNews.com that living under Republican rule almost “killed" her.
And I would almost give a damn it did.

she is even less significant by a wide margin than I am...what a freak

448 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:03pm

Now would be a good time to start buying ammo. They won't outlaw handguns--but they'll make it impossible for you to get ammo. Stock up now, gang.

449 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:09pm

re: #422 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(Alfred) Joyce Kilmer

He did not re-up. Wasn't he killed in the Ardennes?

450 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:09pm

re: #439 albusteve

And I truly believe you !

451 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:13pm

re: #435 formercorpsman

Clinton was the reason I did not stay on in 1993.

If you were in the same position now as then but with this economy would it effect your decision? Just curious.

452 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:24pm

re: #443 phoenixgirl

there isn't enough alchohol

Sad but true.

How's Phx? Left there about 8 years ago.

453 Kragar  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:26pm

re: #433 Spiritualized

Hmmm, file under 'terrorist thug in hypocrisy shocker':


So if the "Palestinians" have been losers all this time (heh.) Then why have they been dictating terms the past 60 years? This terrorist needs to not be breathing already.

Makes as much sense as them claiming they're the victims of genocide.

454 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:27pm

re: #438 formercorpsman

Yes... the good old days.

Well my idea ran along those lines of Starched knickers for the first lady...A quartermaster might be running the white house laundry...

455 drool  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:41pm

"Last year, al-Nashiri said during a Guantanamo hearing that he confessed to helping plot the Cole bombing only because he was tortured by U.S. interrogators. The CIA has admitted he was among terrorist suspects subjected to waterboarding, which simulates drowning, in 2002 and 2003 while being interrogated in secret CIA prisons."

Oops.

456 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:50pm

re: #449 Soona'

He did not re-up. Wasn't he killed in the Ardennes?

Marne.

457 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:58pm

re: #403 opnion

I don't believe that I would shake Obama's hand , even if the situation was embarassing.
There are only two pols that I feel that way about, Kerry & Obama.

you wouldn't have to shake O's hand.
he's a "fist bump" kind of guy.
did i mention he thinks we think he's cool?

458 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:29:59pm

re: #423 Tom Taylor

I am sorry for asking, but why does this trail not take place much earlier? Under Bush?

Congressional Slackitude - it took until 2006 to set the legal framework that turned out to be bad, unworkable legislation.

459 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:30:01pm

re: #444 BBev

I use to have an old Pizza Hut phone number, after the first hundred calls and explaining it I started to take orders,

And that's why Domino's business picked up in your town.

460 Spiritualized  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:30:04pm

And another thing, what the hell is Mossad doing? How is Meshaal allowed to hold rallies? He should fear poking his nose out of a basement window let alone giving speeches.

461 akak  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:30:06pm
News agencies say an ultraconservative society has thrown out British Bishop Richard Williamson, who expressed doubts about the Holocaust. He was recently rehabilitated by the Vatican along with three other excommunicated bishops.
The ANSA and Apcom news agencies on Friday quoted the Italian branch of the Society of St. Pius X as saying it expelled the Rev. Floriano Abrahmowicz to prevent its image from being "distorted." (AP)

cutchee

462 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:30:18pm

re: #425 BigMoo

Thats right-he was a great knock off to the great Odd-Job.

Apparently the actor was not such a great man.

463 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:30:25pm

I was just perusing the TV guide on line and noticed that MSNBC has a new regular TV show called ''1600 Pennsylvania Avenue."
Talk about boot licking!

464 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:30:35pm

I guess from now on you can just call pork a stimulus and get it passed.

465 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:30:52pm

re: #441 Shug

Don't trouble yourself....once this batch is down the rathole, we'll just go begging to the Chinese and Saudis for another trillion or so.
Or we can just print it ourselves so that a loaf of bread ends up costing $1200...

466 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:31:05pm

re: #452 CynicalConservative

Sad but true.

How's Phx? Left there about 8 years ago.

phx is great! was in the 80's for the last two weeks!
spring training around the corner!

467 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:31:07pm

re: #463 mean Gene

I was just perusing the TV guide on line and noticed that MSNBC has a new regular TV show called ''1600 Pennsylvania Avenue."
Talk about boot licking!

You're about three feet too low.

468 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:31:15pm

Good evening. Lot's of unclenched fists as a result of this?

Didn't think so.

469 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:31:23pm

Senate jackasses are back in session. Everybody ready to puke?

470 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:31:35pm

re: #413 BigMoo

I'm afraid I'd have to add Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Franks, Dodd and Schumer to that list.

I don't like any of them , but I would only refuse to shake Obama's or Kerry's hand. I am sure the others would be sooooo pleased to hear that.

471 nikis-knight  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:31:48pm

re: #446 Kosh's Shadow

I have an idea.

Don't panic.
We tell the Democrats that the Earth is going to get eaten by a giant star goat, so we need to get everyone to another planet.
They will get the first space ark, of course.

Hey, it worked for the Golgafrinchans.


But then who will sanitize our telephones?

472 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:04pm

Will the Muslims in American welcome this type of pork? I think they will.

473 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:20pm

re: #463 mean Gene

I was just perusing the TV guide on line and noticed that MSNBC has a new regular TV show called ''1600 Pennsylvania Avenue."
Talk about boot licking!

The address has now been changed to 1600 Moon Bat Drive...

474 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:23pm

re: #466 phoenixgirl

phx is great! was in the 80's for the last two weeks!
spring training around the corner!

Miss the spring training, nothing else. Cooked and melted there for 18 years.

475 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:32pm

re: #470 opnion

I don't like any of them , but I would only refuse to shake Obama's or Kerry's hand. I am sure the others would be sooooo pleased to hear that.

I'd add Murtha and Durbin to the list.

476 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:32pm

re: #407 reine.de.tout

Was it you the other day who said something along the lines of:
He was a puppet who was having his strings pulled by a group, then he began to believe he was as great as everybody said he was and started trying to think for himself?

It's true.

i don't think that was me but i like the theory.
we will know it's true if we see soros sulking somewhere.

477 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:36pm

re: #462 CyanSnowHawk

Another demented Hollywood performer...what a shock...

478 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:45pm

re: #448 calcajun

Now would be a good time to start buying ammo. They won't outlaw handguns--but they'll make it impossible for you to get ammo. Stock up now, gang.

uhhh, this is NYC... they DID outlaw handguns. And long guns, and back talk...

479 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:56pm

re: #448 calcajun

Now would be a good time to start buying ammo. They won't outlaw handguns--but they'll make it impossible for you to get ammo. Stock up now, gang.

Have you checked the price lately ,

480 winston06  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:32:58pm

Shame on Hussein Obama...

481 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:33:11pm

re: #469 CynicalConservative

Senate jackasses are back in session. Everybody ready to puke?

Back in session to announce recess until 7est. Ugh.

482 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:33:14pm

re: #417 BBev

He should stick it out,

It will be a tough call.

He's a pilot and has his masters in aeronautical engineering....but I sense he's been on the fence for a bit. We'll see how he feels when he gets back from Afghanistan where he is supposed to deploy to next Fall. If they dangle full colonel it will get interesting.

483 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:33:22pm

If not for the free market system IN THE COSMETIC MEDICINE business, Cher's ass and boobs would not be where they are today.
And in "The Peoples Pop Music Brigade", elective cosmetic surgery would not be allowed. They'd just get a younger singer.
That's what being Socialist not Republican is.

/but who'd want to be Cher?.......

484 DEZes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:33:49pm

re: #447 albusteve

she is even less significant by a wide margin than I am...what a freak


She stared in Moonstruck, and with good reason, she is a moonbat.
Do you know why liberals are like Slinkys?
Both are useless, but still fun to push down stairs.
:)

485 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:33:51pm

re: #464 HelloDare

I guess from now on you can just call pork a stimulus and get it passed.

this is direct defiance of the citizens of America....House rules were rewritten...debate was shut down...fearmongering...I personally am going to hammer Steele...I want to hear what he has to say....

486 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:34:03pm

re: #479 BBev

Have you checked the price lately ,

Unfortunately, yes.

487 opnion  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:34:10pm

Later Lizards. Senators Collins & Nelson are soon to make a ststement on the Stimulus vote. Doesn't sound good, Susan Collins is not a rock

488 Cheechako  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:34:19pm

re: #424 lobo91

Probably not, but I suspect that it will definitely factor into some people's retirement plans.

I personally know three LTCs who are getting ready to put in their retirement papers, even though at least two of them would probably get picked up for O-6 in another year or two.

And I'm doing the same as soon as I meet the 3 year time in grade requirement from my promotion to E-9. I could stay in another 10 years if I wanted, but I remember the Clinton years (and the tail end of the Carter years, actually) in the military.

"General" LBJ convinced me to not make the Army my career.

489 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:34:20pm

re: #470 opnion

I don't like any of them , but I would only refuse to shake Obama's or Kerry's hand. I am sure the others would be sooooo pleased to hear that.

I prefer Moo's list.

490 The Shadow Do  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:34:27pm

re: #441 Shug

780 Billion dollars

flushed down the f***ing toilet

No, it is worse than that. 780B handed to the Democrat war chest. Just a down payment, of that you can be sure.

491 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:34:32pm

re: #469 CynicalConservative

Senate jackasses are back in session. Everybody ready to puke?

Sounds like we have a bill.
Charles called it last night, pass it on a Friday....

492 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:34:44pm

re: #466 phoenixgirl

I miss Phx (well some of it)-moved away ten years ago, kept my D-Backs seats for 5 years after to make sure I got down there a lot. Spring training there is great experience.

493 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:34:44pm

re: #337 DEZes

Now tardiness will be sung as a virtue by our lame brained media.
This shit just keeps getting worse.

This is very reminiscient of Clinton. I remember he was famous for being late. In both cases I think it's a telling example of arrogance and haughtiness, particularly instructive in ostensible 'Tribunes of the People' - my ass.

Interesting that Bush, a former military man, was always punctual. As a former grunt myself, it would be the height of bad decorum to make soldiers wait on your sorry ass.
And by the way, it's just damn basic courtesy and good manners as well.
Man I detest these bastards......

494 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:34:50pm

re: #478 brookly red

uhhh, this is NYC... they DID outlaw handguns. And long guns, and back talk...

And who in NYC, other than law enforcement, now has guns?

495 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:35:04pm

re: #479 BBev

Have you checked the price lately ,

CCI Blazer .38 @ Academy Sporting Goods, box of 50, $16.99.

496 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:35:13pm

re: #407 reine.de.tout

I said that, though I am sure I wasn't the only one with the hypothesis.

497 akak  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:35:52pm

re: #491 jcm

Sounds like we have a bill.
Charles called it last night, pass it on a Friday....

How's the 2010 Republican campaign comin?

498 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:35:54pm

re: #491 jcm

Sounds like we have a bill.
Charles called it last night, pass it on a Friday....

Yep, can't disagree. Just sick.

499 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:36:30pm

It's done. Light 'em up. We just got screwed.

500 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:36:47pm

FNC: Suicide rate up in Combat Troops in January... 24. Only 4 last year at this time.

More Obama Hope and Change?

501 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:36:55pm

re: #499 ArmyWife

It's done. Light 'em up. We just got screwed.

And not even a kiss.

502 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:00pm

re: #495 pink freud

CCI Blazer .38 @ Academy Sporting Goods, box of 50, $16.99.

There are cheaper places online. Looked at Sportsmen's Guide?
I can get a case 400 rnds of 7.62 for $90

503 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:00pm

MM:

Voinovich drops out. And then there were three…

Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio) has pulled out of negotiations on a bipartisan compromise on the Senate’s economic stimulus bill.


Three Republicans — Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), Olympia Snowe (Maine) and Arlen Specter (Pa.) — continue to negotiate with Democrats, but Voinovich’s departure could make it more difficult for Democrats to reach the 60 votes they need to pass the bill.

Voinovich left a meeting in Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) office around 2:30 p.m., saying he did not believe there was a deal he could agree to on an amendment that would cut as much as $100 billion from the more than $920 billion measure.

“I’ve really tried to work on this, but the three things that it should be timely, that it should be temporary and it should be targeted, that was something that I looked at,” Voinovich said. “It just doesn’t meet my criteria, and I feel very sorry because I think the Majority Leader has his responsibility, and he’s got his Members that he has to take care of.”

Voinovich said he could not get past his objections to fund school construction in the bill, and he wanted the measure to include more money for highway construction.

“They can’t seem to get it through there that right now what we need is a program that will create jobs,” Voinovich said.

504 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:01pm

re: #485 albusteve

I could not agree more. We live in a nation where a Congress with a SINGLE DIGIT approval rating (or thereabouts) is about to push us off a cliff. Stay classy Congress....stay classy.

505 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:10pm

re: #494 calcajun

And who in NYC, other than law enforcement, now has guns?

what? do you want me banned?

506 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:12pm

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

507 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:13pm

re: #420 DEZes

Cher told CNSNews.com that living under Republican rule almost “killed" her.
And I would almost give a damn it did.

I think her brain froze along with her face due to all the plastic surgery through the years. You ever see this woman try to talk now? Can barely move her mouth. Not that that's a bad thing, mind you.

508 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:18pm

re: #498 CynicalConservative

Yep, can't disagree. Just sick.

well it had to be a Friday...next Friday and it would fail...timing is everything....
spit

509 amphibian  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:28pm

Help me out here, lizards. I know it isn't polite to refer to the President of the United States as a jug-eared Marx-licking terrorist-fellating stuffed shirt small-time Chicago hood who couldn't find his own rear end without a teleprompter, so I won't do so. But, what should I call the son of a bitch?

510 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:30pm

The Republican party needs rebuilding ground up, it starts with the farm teams, local and state legislatures. How much attention have you paid to your local Republican party lately?

511 loppyd  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:31pm

have to go lie down again

later taters.

512 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:32pm

re: #497 akak

How's the 2010 Republican campaign comin?


Probably not so well now that ACORN just got additional funding in the stimulus bill.

513 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:34pm

re: #479 BBev

Have you checked the price lately ,

I closed my eyes last week and clicked enter on some ammo. You might as well do it now, because it's going to become difficult to get at any price.

514 The Shadow Do  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:43pm

re: #455 drool

"Last year, al-Nashiri said during a Guantanamo hearing that he confessed to helping plot the Cole bombing only because he was tortured by U.S. interrogators. The CIA has admitted he was among terrorist suspects subjected to waterboarding, which simulates drowning, in 2002 and 2003 while being interrogated in secret CIA prisons."

Oops.

Oops may ass. He should have been interrogated and then shot. Period.
Do you think he has rights?

515 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:44pm

According to C-Span2 the stimulus bill was brought down to $780 BILLION before the 3 Republicans came on board.
Now......will all of those cuts cost a Dem or two?

516 UFO TOFU  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:37:55pm

re: #444 BBev

I use to have an old Pizza Hut phone number, after the first hundred calls and explaining it I started to take orders,

My number used to be one digit away from BofA's. I finally changed my message to
"Press one for bookkeeping, press two to speak to an associate, press three for a really good margarita."

Some of the messages left were not very polite.

517 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:38:25pm

re: #497 akak

How's the 2010 Republican campaign comin?

I'm thinking it just got a boost.

518 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:38:37pm

re: #509 amphibian

Help me out here, lizards. I know it isn't polite to refer to the President of the United States as a jug-eared Marx-licking terrorist-fellating stuffed shirt small-time Chicago hood who couldn't find his own rear end without a teleprompter, so I won't do so. But, what should I call the son of a bitch?

Traitor works for me.

519 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:38:51pm

re: #506 ArmyWife

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

PLUS INTEREST!

520 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:38:58pm

re: #494 calcajun

And who in NYC, other than law enforcement, now has guns?

Gangsta's.

521 DEZes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:39:09pm

re: #493 LGoPsYour absolutely spot on, also I think tardiness is a sign of apathy.

522 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:39:28pm

re: #451 Nevergiveup

Good question. Actually, at the end of this year I would be retiring.

Without trying to go on forever, I will explain it this way.

Everyone knew the budget was going to take a hit with Clinton in. Some of the old salt could remember when Carter was in, and they told me how much better it became serving under Reagan. (To be honest, I was young, and not up on politics at the time, but anyway)

With less money, and after the Gulf War, it was obvious the services were trying to trim for monetary reasons. They were holding up rank advancements for people who should have been advanced, holding up re-enlistments for people not making rank, etc.

I watched an E-8, very close to retirement go through hell because of the bastards in D.C. playing politics.

He could have made E-9, but they caused trouble for him for something he was already punished for when he was an E-nothing.

It was bullshit. Pure bullshit. Good guy, totally loyal, and where politics should not have been able to affect him, it did. Again, I was really unaware until that last year of my contract. I guess that opened my eyes politically.

That really left a bad taste in my mouth.

523 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:39:46pm

re: #501 CynicalConservative

And not even a kiss.

Anybody seen my squad leader, I'm out of smokes...:)

524 pink freud  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:39:52pm

re: #506 ArmyWife

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

Hellfire and damnation!

525 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:40:19pm

re: #510 Thanos

The Republican party needs rebuilding ground up, it starts with the farm teams, local and state legislatures. How much attention have you paid to your local Republican party lately?

Steele is dumping his entire staff I read....altho they can reapply again...
no link

526 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:40:23pm

re: #493 LGoPs

This is very reminiscient of Clinton. I remember he was famous for being late. In both cases I think it's a telling example of arrogance and haughtiness, particularly instructive in ostensible 'Tribunes of the People' - my ass.

It's actually pretty typical of Democrat politicians in general, in my experience.

I used to work for the NM legislature, in its bipartisan staff agency. The individual members in NM don't get their own staff (other than the 4 leaders, who get a couple each). It made things interesting, having to write stuff for a moonbat Democrat one day and a conservative Republican the next.

Anyway, the Republicans were all very punctual, and always treated us graciously. The Democrats, on the other hand, were usually late, and treated the staff like dirt (even though we were all professionals with either graduate or law degrees, and most of them were idiots).

527 The Shadow Do  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:40:25pm

re: #509 amphibian

Help me out here, lizards. I know it isn't polite to refer to the President of the United States as a jug-eared Marx-licking terrorist-fellating stuffed shirt small-time Chicago hood who couldn't find his own rear end without a teleprompter, so I won't do so. But, what should I call the son of a bitch?

I dunno but I think you just might come up with something!

528 godfrey  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:40:32pm

Fire McConnell.

529 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:40:32pm

re: #521 DEZes

I think it's a sign of arrogance and narcissism-in his mind, nothing can start until he gets there, so it doesn't matter when he gets there...

530 SurferDoc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:40:39pm

Ever-y-thing is gonna be alright, rockabye

/rockabye

531 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:40:46pm

re: #523 Dustyvet

Anybody seen my squad leader, I'm out of smokes...:)

Be sure to pay the extra tax on those...

532 Sheepdogess  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:40:54pm

re: #408 sjm_888

If there are any presently serving military persons on board here, how does this dismissal of charges for the Cole attack make you feel?

This Barry guy isn't fit to be commander in chief.

He's not fit for anything.

I have a child in the military.

Here is his payback list....

1. The military
2. Conservative republicans
3. Conservative Blacks
4. Conservative gays
5. Consewrvative single moms
6. Conservative Jews

533 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:41:10pm

re: #516 UFO TOFU

My number used to be one digit away from BofA's. I finally changed my message to
"Press one for bookkeeping, press two to speak to an associate, press three for a really good margarita."

Some of the messages left were not very polite.

I had the right number for me BUT the US government's own phone book placed it in the US Customs list as the number to call to see when your truck's load was going to be checked so you could hit the road.
Truckers!
Ugh!
The phone company had done no wrong so they refused to change my number.
So, I started telling every trucker his truck was ready to go....what was he waiting for an engraved invitation?
Heh.
The Government fixed my number for me for free.

534 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:42:32pm

re: #493 LGoPs


Tardiness is generally a sign of an extremely disorganized person or one who does not respect other people and their time. It can also be a power/control/attention thing. I've seen all three types through the years at work, i.e. who are the ones notorious for being late to meetings.

535 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:42:38pm

re: #506 ArmyWife

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

zero tolarence for incumbants.

536 Muadib  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:42:46pm

re: #510 Thanos

The Republican party needs rebuilding ground up, it starts with the farm teams, local and state legislatures. How much attention have you paid to your local Republican party lately?

Back to the basics. Quickly.

537 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:43:07pm

re: #434 laxmi

How about your local Kwik-e Mart owner? We are trying to be more inclusive!

Uh ... if you're going to register a second account, don't you think you should let people know that you're also registered here under 'iLikeCandy'?

You're not trying to fool people, are you?

538 winston06  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:43:44pm

re: #3 HelloDare

Nope. it is part of the deal with Al-Qaeda, I suppose

539 ciaospirit  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:43:46pm

re: #503 loppyd

“They can’t seem to get it through there that right now what we need is a program that will create jobs,” Voinovich said.

Finally, Voinovich sees the light. He's usually a traitor to the party.

540 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:43:47pm

re: #420 DEZes

Cher told CNSNews.com that living under Republican rule almost “killed" her.
And I would almost give a damn it did.

There is a place deep down in me that gets really pissed over ungrateful shits like this with their make believe terrors - over goddammed nothing. That part of me wants to take them and show them some real bad shit........just so I can say, "Now you really got something to complain about"........

Kind of like taking a 5 year old having a tantrum over nothing and giving them a good swat so they really have something to cry about........

541 UFO TOFU  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:44:01pm

re: #537 Charles

That must get old for you.

542 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:44:02pm

re: #404 Killian Bundy

The whole world's watching laughing, the whole world's watching laughing!

/send in the clown cars!

Clown cars? You want clown cars? heh.

...and I wouldn't go long on Merkel's either.

543 DEZes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:44:26pm

re: #529 BigMoo

I think it's a sign of arrogance and narcissism-in his mind, nothing can start until he gets there, so it doesn't matter when he gets there...


That too, He is a self centered little snot nose, As LGoPs pointed out Obama has the manners of a spoiled brat, and a very lazy one at that.

544 BigMoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:44:34pm

re: #532 Sheepdogess

I've got a son in Afghanistan, living in a tent next to field gun in a FOB somewhere near the Pakistan border..wondering why the hell the rest of his Brigade may be delayed getting deployed into theatre. Do these arrogant assholes understand that these are our kids/family's LIVES they're screwing with-or do they even care ?

545 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:44:37pm

re: #537 Charles

Uh ... if you're going to register a second account, don't you think you should let people know that you're also registered here under 'iLikeCandy'?

You're not trying to fool people, are you?


It's a hindu thing. Many Gods, many socks

/

546 bullskin  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:44:46pm

This man behaves as a spoiled child. "I want this now and I want it at all costs"

I've seen this before in Spain, but yes, I know there is no comparison, except Mr. Hussein is acting like zapatero.

547 screaming_eagle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:45:06pm

re: #532 Sheepdogess

He's not fit for anything.

I have a child in the military.

Here is his payback list....

1. The military
2. Conservative republicans
3. Conservative Blacks
4. Conservative gays
5. Consewrvative single moms
6. Conservative Jews


The NRA and Gun owners in general

548 outsidephilly  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:45:22pm

I just called Senator Spector's office, his office is closed, yet, I had the option to leave a message; and that I did.

My message:
Senator Spector, my name is ......, seventeen US citizens were murdered in the USS Cole bombing, unbelievably, Mr. Obama's administration has dropped all charges against the mastermind of the the USS Cole bombing. What is going on here? Why would Mr. Obama drop these charges? Please, Mr. Spector, would you call me or write me with your explanation? Thank you.

549 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:45:29pm

re: #537 Charles

Uh ... if you're going to register a second account, don't you think you should let people know that you're also registered here under 'iLikeCandy'?

You're not trying to fool people, are you?

Thanks for keeping it clean, boss. You are tireless.

550 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:45:35pm

re: #519 albusteve

PLUS INTEREST!

Or for the last 2000 years you would have to spend $780 a minute.

*Slightly over 1 billion minutes in 2000 years.*

551 winston06  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:45:41pm

re: #546 bullskin

So he will give apes and monkeys HUMAN rights next?

552 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:45:43pm

re: #521 DEZes

Your absolutely spot on, also I think tardiness is a sign of apathy.

I also think it's a sign of looking down on everyone else because of an over-inflated sense of self importance.
It kind of makes me think of the old character test that tells you to judge someone by how they treat the hired help. And to these bastards we are the hired help.......
And they flunk.

553 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:45:48pm

re: #510 Thanos

The Republican party needs rebuilding ground up, it starts with the farm teams, local and state legislatures. How much attention have you paid to your local Republican party lately?

I don't think many people do, otherwise we wouldn't be having the issues we're having. I've been calling for more involvement in the party for months, and not too many seem interested. It's depressing.

554 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:46:04pm

re: #541 UFO TOFU

That must get old for you.

my take is he likes it...like paintball without leaving home

555 DEZes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:46:04pm

re: #540 LGoPs
Give her to Iran? I could live with that.

556 winston06  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:46:27pm

re: #548 outsidephilly

I feel the frustration in there

557 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:46:55pm

re: #545 Shug

It's a hindu thing. Many Gods, many socks

/

Many arms, many hands.........
/

558 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:46:58pm

re: #537 Charles

Uh ... if you're going to register a second account, don't you think you should let people know that you're also registered here under 'iLikeCandy'?

You're not trying to fool people, are you?

ilikecandy has had some questionable comments here....I don't like deception.

559 screaming_eagle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:47:05pm

re: #539 ciaospirit

Finally, Voinovich sees the light. He's usually a traitor to the party.


Voinovich blows. He don't listen to anybody. He is retiring ,because he knows the whole state wants him out.

560 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:47:21pm

re: #513 Soona'

I closed my eyes last week and clicked enter on some ammo. You might as well do it now, because it's going to become difficult to get at any price.

I'm all set. Soon it may be as good as gold, Hay I'm rich,

561 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:47:24pm

FYI

My 16 gig iPhone is the coolest thing I've ever owned.
I love it.

562 capitalist piglet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:47:31pm

re: #463 mean Gene

I was just perusing the TV guide on line and noticed that MSNBC has a new regular TV show called ''1600 Pennsylvania Avenue."
Talk about boot licking!

A comedy, or...?

563 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:47:52pm

re: #550 jcm

Or for the last 2000 years you would have to spend $780 a minute.

*Slightly over 1 billion minutes in 2000 years.*

really?....jeezus...
.thanks for the perspective

564 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:47:56pm

It ain't over yet.

Keep fighting... keep calling... let them know who the government works for.

565 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:48:09pm

re: #550 jcm

Or for the last 2000 years you would have to spend $780 a minute.

*Slightly over 1 billion minutes in 2000 years.*

I could do that.;)

566 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:48:12pm

re: #537 Charles

Uh ... if you're going to register a second account, don't you think you should let people know that you're also registered here under 'iLikeCandy'?

You're not trying to fool people, are you?

She's my roommate.

567 winston06  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:48:38pm

re: #564 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

According to Chairman Hussein O, it works for Saul Alinsky and him

568 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:48:47pm

re: #505 brookly red

what? do you want me banned?

Sorry. It was a rhetorical question. ;)

569 saberry0530  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:48:55pm

Unfortunatley, in about 3 years time the 900 Billion dollars that the asshats in Congress is spending now will seem like a fond walk in the park.

570 lobo91  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:49:31pm

Well, it's time for my weekly commute back to the land of sane people (Colorado Springs).

Have a good rest of the day (before Obama figures out a way to tax it).

571 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:49:34pm

No back room deals ...bring it out in the open ...I want to know what they are talking about ...jerks ....they think they are above everyone ...Open the Senate Meeting ! Why can't all the republicans stand strong ...the people do want this bill ...

572 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:49:49pm

I am seeing this as a tentative agreement, Drudge is reporting it's been reached, but link goes to "tentative" and hotair is saying they need another Republican because no one wants to be the 60th vote (shouldn't that be a clue this isn't the right thing, people?).

What gives?

573 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:49:54pm

re: #557 Soona'

Many arms, many hands.........
/

Many shoes, many gloves/

574 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:49:58pm

re: #564 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It ain't over yet.

Keep fighting... keep calling... let them know who the government works for.

I'll carry on LT, but sometimes you wonder if they listen.

575 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:50:20pm

re: #561 Shug

FYI

My 16 gig iPhone is the coolest thing I've ever owned.
I love it.

heard about the new phone tax? its by the gig, LOL

576 Cathypop  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:51:35pm

re: #566 laxmi

She's my roommate.


As my father would say "You lie like a dog"

577 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:51:47pm

re: #566 laxmi

She's my roommate.

Aaaahhhh. Of course she is. ;-I

578 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:51:49pm

re: #572 ArmyWife

I am seeing this as a tentative agreement, Drudge is reporting it's been reached, but link goes to "tentative" and hotair is saying they need another Republican because no one wants to be the 60th vote (shouldn't that be a clue this isn't the right thing, people?).

What gives?

I read somewhere they might have to fly Kennedy up from His death bed in Florida

579 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:52:36pm

re: #567 winston06

According to Chairman Hussein O, it works for Saul Alinsky and him

Time to teach him some civics and to throw that bloody agitator's book in the trash where it belongs.

580 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:52:40pm

re: #566 laxmi

She's my roommate.

Pictures?

//

581 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:52:43pm

re: #574 Dustyvet

I'll carry on LT, but sometimes you wonder if they listen.

they don't....all I get from my commie senators down here is fluffy, windy propaganda in reply to my emails....just crapola

582 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:52:44pm

re: #566 laxmi

She's my roommate.

My husband never did figure out how to also register here or at a few other places.
Is there a trick to it?
We share the same computer but have two different e-mail accounts.

583 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:53:04pm

re: #566 laxmi

She's my roommate.

OK, then. I asked because trolls do this all the time at LGF.

584 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:53:25pm

*kicking laxmi off keyboard*

Okay, I see what's going on here. Doesn't this ever happen? I don't care about two accounts, I've been doing just fine with one.

585 Charles Johnson  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:53:39pm

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, folks, until there's evidence to the contrary.

586 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:53:55pm

re: #574 Dustyvet

I'll carry on LT, but sometimes you wonder if they listen.

Leaders get that feeling all the time... still need to keep their face in the mud until they submit.

587 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:54:15pm

Well this should help the economy!

Obama executive order favors union labor

"Project labor agreements are a win-win for everyone involved," said James Hoffa, president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. "Contractors get highly trained, skilled labor with fixed costs, and workers are fairly compensated with their rights and safety protected."

But the Associated Builders and Contractors, a trade group, said the order would unfairly steer federal construction contracts to unionized contractors despite the fact that 84 percent of U.S. construction workers do not belong to labor unions.

ABC president Kirk Pickerel said the effect would "drive up costs for American taxpayers" by reducing competitive bidding on projects.

Someone take that man's pen away, for the good of us all!

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

588 Daisy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:54:18pm

re: #140 tackle

Okay, let's summarize:
-Skips the Medal of Honor Ball.
-Obama nullifies every legal order and opinion on interrogations issued by any lawyer in the executive branch after Sept. 11, 2001
-He signs an executive order to close Gitmo and freeze military commissions there.
-He gives his first tv interview to an Arab-owned network.
-He appoints several lobbyists to his staff after promising not to.
-He rehires Samantha Power.
-Congress gives itself a raise
-The Obama administration asks Iran to unclench their fists.
-An American is kidnapped in Pakistan
-Iran launches a satellite into orbit.
-Obama is chronically late.
-Obama appoints 3+ people who haven't payed their taxes.
-Obama tries to ram through a democratic wish list disguised as a stimulus bill.
-“We were just tired of being in the White House,” –Obama
-Obama drops charges against the mastermind of the Cole bombing.

What'd I miss?

The Messiah is now subsidizing international abortions w/our tax dollars.

589 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:54:19pm

re: #584 iLikeCandy

*kicking laxmi off keyboard*

Okay, I see what's going on here. Doesn't this ever happen? I don't care about two accounts, I've been doing just fine with one.


Sugar high?

590 Bullskin  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:54:24pm

re: #551 winston06

So he will give apes and monkeys HUMAN rights next?

I've seen such insane things going that nothing would surprise me. No one is safe from a cool-liberal-narcissistic-president. I hope for mankind's sake that yours wont be as clownish as ours.

591 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:54:30pm

Fox is reporting that census duties will be taken away from Commerce Dept. [Gregg} and given to Emanuel's office.
I wonder why...........what could be the motive?
/////////

592 Cathypop  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:54:47pm

re: #585 Charles

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, folks, until there's evidence to the contrary.

Something is not right here.

593 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:54:56pm

re: #586 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Leaders get that feeling all the time... still need to keep their face in the mud until they submit.

Thanks LT I needed that...it's been a tearful afternoon

594 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:00pm

I'm considering a One Person March on DC to vent my frustrations and remind those asshole how much I hate their pandering, self centered politics....
the feds are less honorable than the Mob....I hate the feds

595 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:10pm

re: #580 CynicalConservative

Pictures?

//

Well first is she cute?

596 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:14pm

re: #584 iLikeCandy

Are you in school?

597 inldad67  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:37pm

re: #582 mean Gene
Ya gotta wait for the door to open...

598 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:40pm

mean Gene, I'm not sure. Wait. Okay, I saw registry open. Told laxmi to jump in. Bam, that's it. I didn't log off beforehand.

599 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:42pm

re: #595 BBev

Well first is she cute?

It's so subjective.

600 Cathypop  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:44pm

re: #591 n in wi

Fox is reporting that census duties will be taken away from Commerce Dept. [Gregg} and given to Emanuel's office.
I wonder why...........what could be the motive?
/////////

ACORN

601 Lee Coller  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:55:45pm

re: #591 n in wi

Fox is reporting that census duties will be taken away from Commerce Dept. [Gregg} and given to Emanuel's office.
I wonder why...........what could be the motive?
/////////

It can't be good. Emanuel will outsource it to Acorn.

602 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:56:16pm

re: #561 Shug

FYI

My 16 gig iPhone is the coolest thing I've ever owned.
I love it.

how much?...I'm considering

603 Lee Coller  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:56:22pm

re: #600 Cathypop

GMTA

604 outsidephilly  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:56:22pm

re: #596 formercorpsman

Feel like taking a ride with me to Senator Spector's office next week?

605 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:56:51pm

re: #525 albusteve

Steele is dumping his entire staff I read....altho they can reapply again...
no link

It's a start, we need to get rid of that polypundit populist grabass gang. Enough of the pandering and pretending snark is a policy.

606 stevieray  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:56:58pm

re: #537 Charles

Uh ... if you're going to register a second account, don't you think you should let people know that you're also registered here under 'iLikeCandy'?

You're not trying to fool people, are you?

iLikeCandy claimed to be from Malta last night...

607 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:57:03pm

re: #584 iLikeCandy

*kicking laxmi off keyboard*

Okay, I see what's going on here. Doesn't this ever happen? I don't care about two accounts, I've been doing just fine with one.

I registered Mrs. Hawk from my computer, so that could happen to us as well if she ever posted anything here. She's more into playing on the Disney forums than the political ones.

608 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:57:21pm

re: #599 CynicalConservative

It's so subjective.

Ya well lets see the pic's and then we can decide.

609 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:57:45pm

re: #606 stevieray

iLikeCandy claimed to be from Malta last night...

And the plot thickens

610 inldad67  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:58:18pm

re: #588 Daisy
Ya also missed where he keeps slipping out the door/window to light up!

611 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:58:48pm

re: #608 BBev

Ya well lets see the pic's and then we can decide.

That's really sexist! Now what i want to know is what are their bods are like?

612 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:58:54pm

hang on hang on everyone. We're doing a double here.

Are you in school? No, we're teachers saving money.

Pictures? Yes, but that wouldn't be wise to share them.

Are we cute? Well, the boys in our classes always draw us in bikinis.

Sugar high? The irony is that I don't like candy. Someone was saying that on the radio on the day I got my account.

613 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:58:56pm

re: #609 Nevergiveup

And the plot thickens

Dispatch the undercover hamster.

614 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:59:09pm

re: #608 BBev

Ya well lets see the pic's and then we can decide.

Exactly.

re: Charles' comments. Benefit of the doubt given; not enough personal knowledge to make a judgment.

615 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:59:18pm

re: #602 albusteve

299$
You can get a refurbished one for 50$ less and the 8 gig one for $199, perhaps refurbished ones are also 50 less. I didn't check

I needed a new iPod anyway, as well as a new phone since my 2 yr contract was up.

It's really great. I love it. I used the GPS ,map finder this morning to find a gas station while I was running out of gas in Detroit, and believe me you do not want to run out of gas in Detroit

616 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:59:30pm

re: #591 n in wi

Fox is reporting that census duties will be taken away from Commerce Dept. [Gregg} and given to Emanuel's office.
I wonder why...........what could be the motive?
/////////

I call shenanigans!

Change!

Can't wait till ACORN manages the census...

617 infidel4ever  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:59:36pm

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I bet that is one promise he'll keep...

618 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:59:40pm

I have to wonder, Will the carreer of the judge that defied the Osiah's order be done with? Or will some top General give him a medal for cravery under fire? I vote for the latter....who is with me?

619 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 3:59:46pm

re: #593 Dustyvet

Thanks LT I needed that...it's been a tearful afternoon

How's the flu?

620 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:09pm

re: #612 iLikeCandy

hang on hang on everyone. We're doing a double here.

Are you in school? No, we're teachers saving money.

Pictures? Yes, but that wouldn't be wise to share them.

Are we cute? Well, the boys in our classes always draw us in bikinis.

Sugar high? The irony is that I don't like candy. Someone was saying that on the radio on the day I got my account.

Good on ya. As said in 614; benefit of the doubt given.

621 outsidephilly  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:12pm

BBIAW

622 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:12pm

re: #613 HelloDare

Dispatch the undercover hamster.

He's a license to gnaw...

623 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:21pm

So today Obama drops the charges against the terrorist who planned the attack on the USS Cole.

Tomorrow he'll start paying reparations to the Bin Laden family.

Next week we'll start funding North Korea to pay for our wrongful prosecution over the years.

The week after that we'll start selling off our military equipment to Iran to show that we truly are sorry for our cruel nature.

624 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:21pm

OOPS I gotta use spell check, BRAVERY UNDER FIRE!

625 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:33pm

I made the list of bottom ten comments (again)
/heh

626 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:34pm

I hope everyone who voted for him is fu**ing happy now.

627 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:49pm

re: #566 laxmi

She's my roommate.

Is she cute?

628 Daisy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:50pm

re: #610 inldad67

Ya also missed where he keeps slipping out the door/window to light up!

God help him if Michelle catches him. Shuddering.

629 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:51pm

re: #605 Thanos

It's a start, we need to get rid of that polypundit populist grabass gang. Enough of the pandering and pretending snark is a policy.

I'm gonna keep a close eye on Steele....and he's easier to get ahold of then congressmen or senators...I want to hear what he has to say about this vote

630 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:52pm

re: #609 Nevergiveup

And the plot thickens

I'm not FROM Malta, but my ancestors are. Laxmi is from Kerela.

Charles, I did indeed have a Maltese cross as my avatar, and when it was pointed out that it resembled some Nazi iconography I deleted it.

631 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:00:56pm

Obama should get the award for CRAVENLY under fire....

632 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:07pm

re: #615 Shug

299$
You can get a refurbished one for 50$ less and the 8 gig one for $199, perhaps refurbished ones are also 50 less. I didn't check

I needed a new iPod anyway, as well as a new phone since my 2 yr contract was up.

It's really great. I love it. I used the GPS ,map finder this morning to find a gas station while I was running out of gas in Detroit, and believe me you do not want to run out of gas in Detroit

My contract is up in May and I really really want an iphone.

Is it worth it?

Daughter has one, I like her GPS function; also, can you get onto LGF with it? That is most important . . .

633 Eowyn2  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:10pm

re: #116 Oxnuts

Yay, I finally made it in. Only took a year :)

Close the doors their coming in through the windows.

happy happy nuts huts

634 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:14pm

re: #619 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

How's the flu?

a wee better, the tears where over the U S S Cole.

635 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:16pm

re: #612 iLikeCandy

hang on hang on everyone. We're doing a double here.

Are you in school? No, we're teachers saving money.

Pictures? Yes, but that wouldn't be wise to share them.

Are we cute? Well, the boys in our classes always draw us in bikinis.

Sugar high? The irony is that I don't like candy. Someone was saying that on the radio on the day I got my account.

So your saying you pose for the boys in your class?
/

636 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:35pm

re: #625 Killgore Trout

I made the list of bottom ten comments (again)
/heh

You know you love it.

637 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:37pm

re: #612 iLikeCandy

hang on hang on everyone. We're doing a double here.

Are you in school? No, we're teachers saving money.

Pictures? Yes, but that wouldn't be wise to share them.

Are we cute? Well, the boys in our classes always draw us in bikinis.

Sugar high? The irony is that I don't like candy. Someone was saying that on the radio on the day I got my account.

Well maybe after you get to know us better. There are some lizards out there that have pic's of me.

638 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:39pm

Senate bastids in session again. (hopefully not to call a further recess). Let the public F###ing commence.

639 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:43pm

re: #584 iLikeCandy

*kicking laxmi off keyboard*

Okay, I see what's going on here. Doesn't this ever happen? I don't care about two accounts, I've been doing just fine with one.

Don't get snippy. Just send us some pictures and everything will be just fine.
//:)

640 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:01:47pm

re: #601 Lee Coller

It can't be good. Emanuel will outsource it to Acorn.

I wonder if Gregg likes being screwed without being kissed?

641 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:02:04pm

re: #625 Killgore Trout

I made the list of bottom ten comments (again)
/heh

I still appreciate you though I may not agree with you.

642 akak  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:02:10pm

re: #616 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I call shenanigans!

Change!

Can't wait till ACORN manages the census...

The worm will turn, look at Avi Lieberman in Israel just about even with Livni/Kadima & past Barak/Labor.

643 iLikeCandy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:02:12pm

re: #620 CynicalConservative

Good on ya. As said in 614; benefit of the doubt given.

Thank you! (in unison)

Now I'm getting off and leaving this to the Dotted One.

644 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:02:13pm

re: #617 infidel4ever

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I bet that is one promise he'll keep...

i mentioned that one to people during the campaign... & got called some ugly names for it.

645 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:02:24pm

............big news!

compromise stimulus bill to be voted on.

Big Deal, we are still so very Fucked

646 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:02:33pm

re: #604 outsidephilly

It does blow your mind. How many times has he done this type of thing to his constituents?

I would say lets do it, but it won't make a damn bit of difference.

I have an older friend who is pretty connected in certain political circles. He is friends with one of the justices.

This justice's opinion, is that it will take 30 years of hard times to get us back to where we actually cherish, and abide by the constitution.

Sometimes, I think he might be right.

647 capitalist piglet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:02:43pm

re: #617 infidel4ever

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I bet that is one promise he'll keep...

He said that?

I suppose there's no reason that should surprise me, but wow.

648 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:02:49pm

re: #585 Charles

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, folks, until there's evidence to the contrary.

Fair enough.

650 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:03:03pm

re: #612 iLikeCandy

hang on hang on everyone. We're doing a double here.

Are you in school? No, we're teachers saving money.

Pictures? Yes, but that wouldn't be wise to share them.

Are we cute? Well, the boys in our classes always draw us in bikinis.

Sugar high? The irony is that I don't like candy. Someone was saying that on the radio on the day I got my account.

If they're using crayons to draw the bikinis it don't count.

651 bulwrk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:03:07pm

re: #612 iLikeCandy

Have you ever dinged bulwrk down?

652 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:03:15pm

re: #634 Dustyvet

a wee better, the tears where over the U S S Cole.

I'm with ya.

I hate it when my country surrenders and gives up on justice.

653 Lee Coller  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:03:38pm

re: #640 n in wi

I wonder if Gregg likes being screwed without being kissed?

I'd forgotten about that aspect of it. I wonder what guarantee Gregg has that the NH governor will replace him with a non-rino Republican?

654 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:03:40pm

Maltese cross does indeed resemble the Iron Cross, but that isn't Nazi, it was used in WWI as well....still being used I believe but someone correct me if I am wrong on this..

655 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:03:42pm

re: #617 infidel4ever

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I bet that is one promise he'll keep...

Where's Walter with his little blue Obama book of quotations?

656 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:03:52pm

re: #636 reine.de.tout

I think my record was -43 or so.

657 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:03:57pm

re: #644 brookly red

i mentioned that one to people during the campaign... & got called some ugly names for it.

......let me guess some of the names.

hmmmm

Jew Lover, racist,

Am I close?

658 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:04:13pm

re: #615 Shug

299$
You can get a refurbished one for 50$ less and the 8 gig one for $199, perhaps refurbished ones are also 50 less. I didn't check

I needed a new iPod anyway, as well as a new phone since my 2 yr contract was up.

It's really great. I love it. I used the GPS ,map finder this morning to find a gas station while I was running out of gas in Detroit, and believe me you do not want to run out of gas in Detroit

thanks for that...Detroit gives me the creeps...apocalyptic downtown

659 screaming_eagle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:04:45pm

re: #638 CynicalConservative

Senate bastids in session again. (hopefully not to call a further recess). Let the public F###ing commence.

Actually, I think they should just take about a 6 month vacation. Starting right now. On tax payers dollar, because it will be cheaper for us in the long run.

660 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:04:55pm

re: #656 Killgore Trout

I think my record was -43 or so.

It seems to be your purpose in life.
tee-hee.

661 monkeytime  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:05:08pm

re: #591 n in wi

Fox is reporting that census duties will be taken away from Commerce Dept. [Gregg} and given to Emanuel's office.
I wonder why...........what could be the motive?
/////////

Instead of a census it's going to be more of a list.

662 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:05:12pm

re: #616 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I call shenanigans!

Change!

Can't wait till ACORN manages the census...

I am not happy that Judd Gregg left New Hampshire, there was a time we were a red state not any more.

663 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:05:14pm

re: #652 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'm with ya.

I hate it when my country surrenders and gives up on justice.

Same here, Obama has the blood of 17 U S Navy Personnel on his hands.

664 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:05:25pm

re: #653 Lee Coller

I'd forgotten about that aspect of it. I wonder what guarantee Gregg has that the NH governor will replace him with a non-rino Republican?

Guarantee,Democrat?
Don't be silly

665 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:05:27pm

re: #659 screaming_eagle

Actually, I think they should just take about a 6 month vacation. Starting right now. On tax payers dollar, because it will be cheaper for us in the long run.

No doubt.

666 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:05:51pm

re: #661 monkeytime

Instead of a census it's going to be more of a list.

With lots and lots of fake names in the "right" districts.

/we are _so_ screwed.

667 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:06:02pm

re: #617 infidel4ever

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I bet that is one promise he'll keep...

if I was wealthy I'd put that up on a string of billboards nationwide....I have my own fantasies

668 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:06:08pm

Called Lieberman's and Dodds office, and said we are so very against this PIG FEST. Guess the voters voice was not heard from again.

We are so very screwed.

669 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:06:20pm

re: #625 Killgore Trout

I made the list of bottom ten comments (again)
/heh

I just saw that and had to give you a touch down too. "All" is a bit too inclusive.

670 Cathypop  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:06:35pm

re: #649 Killgore Trout

Freaky Claw-Headed Fossil Could Explain Scorpion Origins


I hate scorpions! Was sitting here enjoying a nice Texas evening and you just had to bring up scorpions. Starting in June they will out in full force trying to get into the house. AAARGH!

671 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:06:48pm

re: #625 Killgore Trout

I made the list of bottom ten comments (again)
/heh

Welllll *whack*
:D
I'm a republican and NOT a creationist!
*thumbs nose*
:D

672 BigAl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:06:56pm

Republicans risk reelection by voting 'Yay' on this turkey.

673 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:07:03pm

If this senate bill is actually more than the congressional bill, were was the freak en compromise?

674 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:07:13pm

re: #612 iLikeCandy

hang on hang on everyone. We're doing a double here.

Are you in school? No, we're teachers saving money.

Pictures? Yes, but that wouldn't be wise to share them.

Are we cute? Well, the boys in our classes always draw us in bikinis.

Sugar high? The irony is that I don't like candy. Someone was saying that on the radio on the day I got my account.

How did you come to find this site?
Genuinely curious.

675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:07:20pm

re: #663 Dustyvet

Same here, Obama has the blood of 17 U S Navy Personnel on his hands.

It's going to be a long four years (if we ever get the country back, see census takeover)... I think you know what my comment is to the above, I won't say it out loud.

676 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:07:29pm

What happens in a blue state when someone tries to earn a few bucks?

Out-of-work listener "Charles" said he got a call from the Washington Department of Labor and Industries after placing the following ad on Craig's List:

Hello! I would like to be hired for any odd jobs that need to be done around your house or company. I can do anything from fixing your toilet to cleaning up your yard. I have a truck you haul what you need I am early to every job and willing to stay late if need be. I need the work right away to keep a roof over the kids head, so call or email now. 253.***-****

He was told that placing such an ad without registering (and paying the fee) to be a contractor could cost him a $1000 fine.

677 Lee Coller  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:08:14pm

re: #672 BigAl

Republicans risk reelection by voting 'Yay' on this turkey.

Even some dems risk reelection by voting Yay. I heard last night that 80% of Americans disapprove of this.

678 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:08:31pm

re: #669 Thanos

Then I'll ding you down for not following the conversation.

679 Sheepdogess  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:08:44pm

Unfortuantely, no. They are ignorant.
His brothers will take care of him.
Your son is in our prayers.

680 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:08:45pm

re: #661 monkeytime

Instead of a census it's going to be more of a list.

Census numbers are used to draw congressional district.
It affects the number of Reps in Congress.
This is bad,typical,but bad.

681 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:08:50pm

re: #666 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

With lots and lots of fake names in the "right" districts.

/we are _so_ screwed.

It might be time for our dead parents, grandparents, and our childhood imaginary friends to start voting.

682 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:08:57pm

re: #625 Killgore Trout

I made the list of bottom ten comments (again)
/heh

Have you ever made the bottom list and the top list on the same day?

/something to shoot for...

683 Moonbat Serenade  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:09:02pm

If this bill is approved by the Senate, doesn't it have to go back to the House to be approved before being submitted to the Offal Office ?

684 jorline  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:09:06pm

Good evening, lizards.

I'm confused...candy and red dots?

Does ant one have any jujubes?//

685 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:09:19pm

re: #666 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

LT did you see that bit about the Cook County squad cars last night? 6 Squads hidden at a Forest Preserve, and 5 more at a Cook county maintenance shop?

686 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:09:27pm

re: #657 smokefire

......let me guess some of the names.

hmmmm

Jew Lover, racist,

Am I close?

No, that's every day... and by the way it's jewloverracist... one word.

687 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:09:33pm

re: #682 wrenchwench

Thanks for the idea. I'll try to work on that.

688 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:09:36pm

I dinged Killgore up on that comment just to rain on his dingdown parade. :p

689 jorline  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:09:56pm

re: #684 jorline

Good evening, lizards.

I'm confused...candy and red dots?

Does ant one have any jujubes?//

PIMF...any

690 BignJames  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:09:57pm

re: #676 jcm

State has to get their cut.

691 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:10:01pm

From Fox News.

Mitch McConnel has said there will not be a vote tonight.
Maybe some of the Republicans will sleep on it and realize that this pig fest is a bad idea.

692 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:10:04pm

re: #678 Killgore Trout

Then I'll ding you down for not following the conversation.

haahaha....a ding fest!

693 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:10:06pm

re: #675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It's going to be a long four years (if we ever get the country back, see census takeover)... I think you know what my comment is to the above, I won't say it out loud.

I agree.

694 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:10:13pm

re: #676 jcm

support your local government, so they can support those who don't work for a living....

695 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:10:28pm

re: #677 Lee Coller

Even some dems risk reelection by voting Yay. I heard last night that 80% of Americans disapprove of this.

Yes, even Joe "The Sybil" Biden is predicting voter backlash

696 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:10:38pm

re: #683 Moonbat Serenade

If this bill is approved by the Senate, doesn't it have to go back to the House to be approved before being submitted to the Offal Office ?

Has to go back for reconciliation. So both bills become one.

697 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:10:43pm

Remember when they jumped all over GWB for "talking down" the economy?

/WTF is chicken little doing? Never let a good crisis go to waste, Barry, Jerk.

698 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:10:57pm

You wouldn't believe the screaming going on in this tiny house now.

It seems I'm to answer the questions for a few minutes.

How did she? I? find this this place? iLikeCandy says she has known about it for a long time. As for me, I don't know what I'm doing here except making trouble for her!

699 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:08pm

re: #656 Killgore Trout

I think my record was -43 or so.

I think I made all ten spot one night, Still sorry Sharmuta

700 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:10pm

re: #691 smokefire

From Fox News.

Mitch McConnel has said there will not be a vote tonight.
Maybe some of the Republicans will sleep on it and realize that this pig fest is a bad idea.

wait -
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

701 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:20pm

re: #661 monkeytime

Instead of a census it's going to be more of a list.

I can here the questions now:
Are you a Repulican?
Do you own any guns?
Did you vote for our messiah?
Could you fill out this union card while we watch you?

702 Cathypop  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:31pm

re: #694 Marvo76

support your local government, so they can support those who don't work for a living....


I am a Republican because not everyone can be on welfare

703 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:36pm

re: #696 Nevergiveup

Has to go back for reconciliation. So both bills become one.

Can we watch?

704 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:37pm

re: #685 Dustyvet

LT did you see that bit about the Cook County squad cars last night? 6 Squads hidden at a Forest Preserve, and 5 more at a Cook county maintenance shop?

Huh? No... what was that all about?

705 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:38pm

re: #686 brookly red

oh sort of like
supercalifragilisticexpealidious?

706 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:43pm

re: #698 laxmi

You wouldn't believe the screaming going on in this tiny house now.

It seems I'm to answer the questions for a few minutes.

How did she? I? find this this place? iLikeCandy says she has known about it for a long time. As for me, I don't know what I'm doing here except making trouble for her!

We like trouble

707 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:46pm

The "Dotted One"? Oh, now the screaming is going to get louder!

708 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:11:54pm

re: #692 albusteve

haahaha....a ding fest!

One dingy dingy, two dingy dingy (with apoligies to Lily Thomlin...)

709 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:12:02pm

re: #689 jorline

PIMF...any

You're bugging yourself!
You really should seek professional help.

710 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:12:24pm

re: #697 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Remember when they jumped all over GWB for "talking down" the economy?

/WTF is chicken little doing? Never let a good crisis go to waste, Barry, Jerk.

He is a jerk ...he is going on a "town hall" speaking tour starting in Elkart, Indiana next week ...he is still campaigning ...they are asking people to call their senators and text them to VOTE FOR the bill ...I cannot stomach this man ...

711 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:12:33pm

re: #670 Cathypop

I hate scorpions! Was sitting here enjoying a nice Texas evening and you just had to bring up scorpions. Starting in June they will out in full force trying to get into the house. AAARGH!

We have an acrylic paperweight with a scorpion in it, but no live ones in Ma. The'd freeze their claws off.
Got the paperweight in Albuquerque, when I worked for a then-major computer company and had to visit their plant there. The company is now gone.

712 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:12:35pm

re: #585 Charles

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, folks, until there's evidence to the contrary.

Thank you Charles...You have always been a very fair moderator and listen up lizards..The dude can really play music...You are very talented and a wonderful American...
If shit goes crazy we'll email you....
Charles..My favorite Scientist who is just straight up...the Anti-matter website is just a wonderful, smart guy...I wrote him months ago that there were people that believed the Earth is 6k year old.. He fainted on-line and told me months ago i could link him..so i did.. and his dashboard has shown exactly zero hits from here...Takes balls to talk trash but not read the real scientists...Not one single hit..That speaks to motivation..
So I will link again...Enjoy reading from a man I respect as a person..A scientist ( one of the world's smartest dudes) runs a blog..He gets like 5 hits a month from post grad geniuses bouncing something off his to suck up his grade...In 2 minutes he can take an ID person and send them to school..
Enjoy..and be nice!
[Link: coraifeartaigh.wordpress.com...]

713 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:12:44pm

re: #707 laxmi

The "Dotted One"? Oh, now the screaming is going to get louder!

why don't you guys just have your topless pillow fight and work it out

714 jorline  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:12:48pm

First I heard the Stimulus Bill 795 Bil...now FOX is reporting 805 Bil.

What's 10 billion amongst friends?

715 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:13:06pm

re: #699 BBev

I think I made all ten spot one night, Still sorry Sharmuta

I got a real nice LGF Christmas pressie, I reached my 1,000 up ding on Christmas Day!...:)


Thanks Lizards...:)

716 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:13:19pm

re: #606 stevieray

iLikeCandy claimed to be from Malta last night...

IP Check!

717 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:13:19pm

re: #698 laxmi

No problem. Like I said, just curious.

Do you both teach in the same school?

718 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:13:44pm

re: #708 Marvo76

One dingy dingy, two dingy dingy (with apoligies to Lily Thomlin...)

they love their dings....a small thing I suppose

719 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:13:49pm

re: #683 Moonbat Serenade

If this bill is approved by the Senate, doesn't it have to go back to the House to be approved before being submitted to the Offal Office ?

Yes. Next week will be the reconciliation of the House and Senate versions. Should make for some interesting fireworks.

720 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:13:50pm

re: #695 Thanos

So we can expect an executive order soon stating VPs are to be seen and never heard?

721 capitalist piglet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:04pm

re: #676 jcm

What happens in a blue state when someone tries to earn a few bucks?

Out-of-work listener "Charles" said he got a call from the Washington Department of Labor and Industries after placing the following ad on Craig's List:


He was told that placing such an ad without registering (and paying the fee) to be a contractor could cost him a $1000 fine.

And "the workin' man" thinks the Democrats are on his side.

722 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:08pm

re: #700 FrogMarch

wait -
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

............FOX news/Shepard Smith.

There may be a vote, McConnel says he doubts it.

Sort of like the weather men in Connecticut.
We are going to get either 2-4 inches or 12-18 inches.
Covering all the bases

723 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:08pm

re: #694 Marvo76

support your local government, so they can support those who don't work for a living....

We had a cases a few years ago an older women who owned property was tired of people dumping stuff on her property, so she hired someone to clean up. They pulled a wreaked car, a bunch of tires and appliance off of her property, including out of a stream.

State fined her $15,000 for disturbing a wetlands.

724 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:26pm

re: #714 jorline

First I heard the Stimulus Bill 795 Bil...now FOX is reporting 805 Bil.

What's 10 billion amongst friends?

I heard when all is said and done is going to be over 850 bil

725 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:32pm

re: #651 bulwrk

Have you ever dinged bulwrk down?

I have to keep answering questions for "Candy," who is not being so sweet just now. She has only dinged up. Oh dear, I control the keyboard! What else could I say about her?

726 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:39pm

re: #714 jorline

First I heard the Stimulus Bill 795 Bil...now FOX is reporting 805 Bil.

What's 10 billion amongst friends?

Send one billion my way and all will be forgiven....

727 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:42pm

re: #698 laxmi

You wouldn't believe the screaming going on in this tiny house now.

It seems I'm to answer the questions for a few minutes.

How did she? I? find this this place? iLikeCandy says she has known about it for a long time. As for me, I don't know what I'm doing here except making trouble for her!

This isn't Facebook, hon.

728 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:48pm

re: #699 BBev

I think I made all ten spot one night, Still sorry Sharmuta

I forgive you.

729 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:57pm

Fox news has the "Breaking - Stimulus deal reached" banner up

F*K

730 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:14:59pm

re: #702 Cathypop

I am a Republican because not everyone can be on welfare

I fight poverty.............I work

731 UFO TOFU  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:15:13pm

I'm getting ready to roll, so I'll buy the house a round. The specialty of the evening is a tequila sunrise made with vodka, and a float of this on top.
Cheers!

732 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:15:42pm

re: #715 Dustyvet

I got a real nice LGF Christmas pressie, I reached my 1,000 up ding on Christmas Day!...:)

Thanks Lizards...:)

So, I only have to down ding you 1,857 times so you can get that thrill again?

733 jorline  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:15:52pm

re: #709 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You're bugging yourself!
You really should seek professional help.

Hi, pBMb how are you?

734 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:16:16pm

re: #727 rightymouse

It is Friday night, a little less serious historically.

735 Shug  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:16:19pm

I was hoping they'd make Kennedy fly up and earn his senate pay

736 Bloodnok  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:16:20pm

A smarter person than I needs to print up a "Remember the COLE" bumpersticker with the f-cking 0bama logo as the O.

737 screaming_eagle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:16:35pm

re: #714 jorline

First I heard the Stimulus Bill 795 Bil...now FOX is reporting 805 Bil.

What's 10 billion amongst friends?

Makes you wish you were a senator huh.

738 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:16:44pm

re: #717 formercorpsman

No problem. Like I said, just curious.

Do you both teach in the same school?

No, we don't. But we teach the same level and we seem to have very similar experiences.

739 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:16:51pm

re: #729 FrogMarch

So I'm back to my original thought. Light 'em up, we just got screwed.

740 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:16:52pm

re: #731 UFO TOFU

I'm getting ready to roll, so I'll buy the house a round. The specialty of the evening is a tequila sunrise made with vodka, and a float of this on top.
Cheers!

Can I please have a coke with Grenadine? No drinking with heart medication...:(

741 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:05pm

re: #735 Shug

I was hoping they'd make Kennedy fly up and earn his senate pay

.............Kennedy in a Plane?

Not a good idea

742 capitalist piglet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:05pm

re: #723 jcm

We had a cases a few years ago an older women who owned property was tired of people dumping stuff on her property, so she hired someone to clean up. They pulled a wreaked car, a bunch of tires and appliance off of her property, including out of a stream.

State fined her $15,000 for disturbing a wetlands.

I miss all the good stories. Do you remember what town she lived in? I wonder who ratted her out.

743 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:06pm

re: #701 Soona'

I can here the questions now:
Are you a Repulican?
Do you own any guns?
Did you vote for our messiah?
Could you fill out this union card while we watch you?

I'll tell them what I told the census taker the last time.

"There are three people in this house. That's all the information you get. Write it down and go away."

744 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:17pm

re: #723 jcm

We had a cases a few years ago an older women who owned property was tired of people dumping stuff on her property, so she hired someone to clean up. They pulled a wreaked car, a bunch of tires and appliance off of her property, including out of a stream.

State fined her $15,000 for disturbing a wetlands.

Wetlands used to be called swamps back when we still had some common sense........

745 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:20pm

re: #728 Sharmuta

I forgive you.

Thank You

746 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:23pm

If the Republicans cave (more than the usual Rinos) I am going to blow a gasket.

If the dems have to fly a man with brain cancer in to get the votes they need - then HEH.

Still - we are so screwed. Obama is still wounded. If Obama were smart - he'd back off.

747 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:32pm

re: #723 jcm

They would have loved me then, I worked for years with a local river cleanup, we pulled over 5000 tires off the river bottom even though we were told "they are habitat" River looks much better for the effort, but even if it was afelony I would still do it....

748 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:38pm

re: #698 laxmi

You wouldn't believe the screaming going on in this tiny house now.

It seems I'm to answer the questions for a few minutes.

How did she? I? find this this place? iLikeCandy says she has known about it for a long time. As for me, I don't know what I'm doing here except making trouble for her!

Good for you. She probably needs a little excitement.

749 HelloDare  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:44pm

re: #707 laxmi

Laxmi,

iLikeCandy isn't half elephant, is she? Is this the two of you together?

750 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:52pm

re: #738 laxmi

Do you feel comfortable describing what you teach?

751 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:17:55pm

re: #727 rightymouse

This isn't Facebook, hon.

Sorry, I'm trying to answer questions for two.

752 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:03pm

re: #724 Nevergiveup

I heard when all is said and done is going to be over 850 bil

two words...interest

753 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:05pm

re: #741 smokefire

.............Kennedy in a Plane?

Not a good idea

Do you know how many bridges you have to cross if you drive from Palm Beach back up to Washington?

754 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:06pm

re: #733 jorline

Hi, pBMb how are you?

Doin' good.
End of a busy week, very busy day.
Trying to stay awake -- crashing early would screw up my "clock."

755 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:06pm

re: #740 Dustyvet

Can I please have a coke with Grenadine? No drinking with heart medication...:(

No drinking? No wonder the heart is causing trouble... A man's gotta drink at times like this, it's what separates us from the ape.

756 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:20pm

re: #702 Cathypop

I am a Republican because not everyone can be on welfare


I'm a Republican because I left the Democrat Party. Actually, I'm more of a conservative, but not a socialcon, if that makes sense. I think the Rep party is re-defining itself right now. It better be, anyway. If Steele's move today to get rid of everyone at the RNC is any indication of a major shake-up in the party, I'm game so long as it goes in a successful direction.

757 screaming_eagle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:30pm

re: #725 laxmi

I have to keep answering questions for "Candy," who is not being so sweet just now. She has only dinged up. Oh dear, I control the keyboard! What else could I say about her?

Anything you like, ecpsecially if she doesn't want us to know.

758 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:31pm

re: #654 Marvo76

Maltese cross does indeed resemble the Iron Cross, but that isn't Nazi, it was used in WWI as well....still being used I believe but someone correct me if I am wrong on this..

Nope--you are right. The Germans still use the Maltese Cross on their aircraft and armored vehicles.

759 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:46pm

re: #729 FrogMarch

Fox news has the "Breaking - Stimulus deal reached" banner up

F*K

as I said in an earlier post today, BOHICA! get used to the phrase folks we are gonna hear it (and feel it) a lot....

760 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:18:47pm

re: #727 rightymouse

This isn't Facebook, hon.

good grief....Walter is gonna be in love

761 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:19:06pm

re: #755 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

No drinking? No wonder the heart is causing trouble... A man's gotta drink at times like this, it's what separates us from the ape.

I've considered starting...

762 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:19:07pm

re: #746 FrogMarch

If the Republicans cave (more than the usual Rinos) I am going to blow a gasket.

If the dems have to fly a man with brain cancer in to get the votes they need - then HEH.

Still - we are so screwed. Obama is still wounded. If Obama were smart - he'd back off.

Fingers crossed he's too dumb to back off and the bill goes down in flames.

763 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:19:27pm

re: #734 formercorpsman

It is Friday night, a little less serious historically.


People can be confused where they are on Friday night.

764 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:19:35pm

Like I said, time to run the the sporting goods store-then to the liquor store.

765 UFO TOFU  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:19:44pm

re: #740 Dustyvet

Sorry. I'll see what I can do.

766 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:20:00pm

re: #739 ArmyWife

So I'm back to my original thought. Light 'em up, we just got screwed.

I'm moving to New Zealand for the next 4 years. Good news - Obama will be a one term pres. Of course - maybe all 8 if the Republicans nominate another unelectable dweeb. No way this helps O. This stimulus is going to break this nation.

767 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:20:02pm

re: #753 Nevergiveup

Do you know how many bridges you have to cross if you drive from Palm Beach back up to Washington?

...............we'll drive off those bridges, when we get to them

768 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:20:09pm

re: #765 UFO TOFU

Sorry. I'll see what I can do.

Thanks...:)

769 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:20:17pm

re: #745 BBev

I'd just ask you keep in mind I'm not against faith- far from it. I'm against the insistence that my faith match the faith of others that I don't agree with. It's one of the reasons I oppose islam, and I'll oppose it from other quarters as well. I hope that makes sense.

770 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:20:20pm

re: #733 jorline

Hi, pBMb how are you?

Hi Jorline! Will you do me 1 favor? With you read my 712 and click on the linl for Anti-matter?
You don't have to even read the sight..But I've been telling him for months that there would be people from here interested in Science..And I know there is..But the hoopster kinds of looks stupid to a PH.d. in math. I look like a liar..

771 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:20:23pm

re: #760 albusteve

Youtube Video
772 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:20:37pm

re: #763 rightymouse

True.

773 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:21:19pm

re: #771 formercorpsman

Just what we need, a french skunk...!

774 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:21:29pm

re: #751 laxmi

Sorry, I'm trying to answer questions for two.

Figured.

775 Tamron  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:21:52pm

Old news on this same topic:

27 USS COLE BOMBERS TUNNEL OUT OF YEMENI JAIL


7 Feb 2006

A major international hunt is under way for 23 al-Qa'ida activists who escaped from their prison in Yemen by digging a 460ft tunnel to emerge in the woman's section of a mosque.

Interpol has issued a global security alert warning that the escapers - including men who had carried out attacks on the American warship USS Cole and the French oil tanker Limburg - were a "clear and present danger to all countries".

The jailbreak was seen as a significant propaganda coup for Islamist groups and a severe blow to Yemen's attempts to portray itself as a strong ally of the West in the "war on terror".

Guards at the high-security prison, which also served as the military intelligence headquarters, were being questioned by police.

There is widespread suspicion that the audacious escape could not have succeeded without the help of officials in Yemen, the country Osama bin Laden's family came from.

The news of the escape came as 15 other alleged Islamists went on trial in Yemen on terrorism charges and as reports emerged of increasing presence of Islamist fighters in the region.

Yemen was long regarded as a haven for Muslim militants and had seen a series of abductions of foreigners by armed gangs. Following the attacks of 11 September 2001 in the US, facing an ultimatum from Washington, the Yemeni government announced it was cracking down on extremists and carried out a number of arrests.

Diplomats in the capital, Sanaa, spoke of "serious errors" that allowed the escape to take place and the probable culpability of Yemeni officials. Opposition parties blamed the government. Ali al-Safari of the Communist Party said: "Nobody, not even al-Qa'ida, could have done this alone." Mohammed al-Sabri, of the Nasserite Party, added: "This is a serious setback and puts the country in a very embarrassing position. This has implications not just for Yemen, but all countries in the region."


.

776 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:00pm

re: #750 formercorpsman

Do you feel comfortable describing what you teach?

I teach in a private grade school, fourth grade, all subjects -- except gym to be sure!

777 reine.de.tout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:07pm

re: #770 HoosierHoops

Hi Jorline! Will you do me 1 favor? With you read my 712 and click on the linl for Anti-matter?
You don't have to even read the sight..But I've been telling him for months that there would be people from here interested in Science..And I know there is..But the hoopster kinds of looks stupid to a PH.d. in math. I look like a liar..

done, hoops!

778 BigAl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:19pm
Sen. Ken Conrad, D-N.D., told FOX News that "there are at least three" Republicans willing to sign onto the bill, giving Democrats the 60 votes needed to advance the bill to a final vote.

RINOs! Out in 2010!

779 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:20pm

re: #771 formercorpsman

[Video]

HA!....no doubt

780 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:26pm

re: #773 Dustyvet

We are talking Walter, right.....hehe

781 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:37pm

re: #545 Shug

It's a hindu thing. Many Gods, many socks

/

one God, many aspects of the one God

782 3 wood  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:51pm

I was busy all day and just saw this.

So you can murder our service men and the Commander In Chief say's you can take a walk.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's Jimmy Carter all over again, only maybe worse.

It is now open season on americans all over the world. Get ready for our embassies to get attacked, our people to get murdered on the street traveling through other countries with now worries by the perp's that anything will be done.

I remember when Slick Willie was in the White House a tee shirt became very popular with Reagan's face on it and the words "Remember When We Had a Real President?" I had one.

Something tells me that tee shirt will be coming back into fashion very soon.

783 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:56pm

re: #725 laxmi

I have to keep answering questions for "Candy," who is not being so sweet just now. She has only dinged up. Oh dear, I control the keyboard! What else could I say about her?

Well...let's see....nevermind.
//

784 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:22:57pm

re: #736 Bloodnok

A smarter person than I needs to print up a "Remember the COLE" bumpersticker with the f-cking 0bama logo as the O.

I appreciate the sentiment,but with 9-1-1 being nothing more than a "disturbing event" for too many people, the Cole isn't going to spark many to wake up
3000 civilians
17 servicemen.
Sad state we exist in.

785 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:23:03pm

re: #772 formercorpsman

True.


Especially when playing keyboard tango.

786 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:23:12pm

re: #776 laxmi

Probably somewhere around Missouri?

787 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:23:36pm

re: #780 formercorpsman

We are talking Walter, right.....hehe

He's...uh,uh, uh....? never mind...:)

788 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:23:47pm

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Senators have reached a tentative deal on a version of President Obama's economic stimulus plan, including about $805 billion in spending and tax cuts, that will win enough Republican votes to move forward.

Sen. Ken Conrad, D-N.D., told FOX News that "there are at least three" Republicans willing to sign onto the bill, giving Democrats the 60 votes needed to advance the bill to a final vote.

Just fabulous.

789 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:24:04pm

re: #781 phoenixgirl

one God, many aspects of the one God

Including Shakti

790 snowcrash  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:24:05pm

re: #774 rightymouse
lol

791 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:24:08pm

re: #777 reine.de.tout

done, hoops!

me too...

792 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:24:16pm

re: #785 rightymouse

I'll go with your word on that. Some things I am pretty dense on, so I apologize already.

793 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:24:44pm

re: #712 HoosierHoops

Just don't tell him I don't believe in gravity.

794 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:25:04pm

re: #721 capitalist piglet

And "the workin' man" thinks the Democrats are on his side.

Only as long as their union buddies get a cut.

795 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:25:16pm

re: #790 snowcrash

lol


Maybe she can go for three. lol!

796 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:25:33pm

re: #782 3 wood

Something tells me that tee shirt will be coming back into fashion very soon.

And Michelle will get really pissed at America again.

797 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:25:52pm

re: #788 ArmyWife

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Just fabulous.

they learned nothing from the House vote....they should be drummed out of the party...despicable commies

798 screaming_eagle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:25:57pm

re: #793 Sharmuta

Just don't tell him I don't believe in gravity.

Our heard our new president was gonna outlaw that.

799 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:26:30pm

re: #792 formercorpsman

I'll go with your word on that. Some things I am pretty dense on, so I apologize already.


Apologize for what? No apologies necessary. :)

800 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:26:34pm

re: #798 screaming_eagle

Our heard our new president was gonna outlaw that.

what a fool...he should tax it

801 ciaospirit  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:26:46pm

re: #710 JacksonTn

He is a jerk ...he is going on a "town hall" speaking tour starting in Elkart, Indiana next week ...he is still campaigning ...they are asking people to call their senators and text them to VOTE FOR the bill ...I cannot stomach this man ...

Coward wouldn't do a town hall during the election campaign.

802 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:26:46pm

So now their gonna congratulate themselves for a few hours and then vote? Military History channel here I come. What the hell, I might as well watch Hitlers Bodyguards for the 100th time.

803 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:26:55pm

RCP Poll
President Obama Job Approval
RCP Average: +40.2% Details
Approve 61.6%
Disapprove 21.4%

Direction of Country
RCP Average: -32.8% Details
Right Direction 28.5%
Wrong Track 61.3%

These numbers just don't jive, do they? If we are headed in the WRONG direction, who is leading us? The one with the 61.6% approval rating?

804 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:27:01pm

re: #770 HoosierHoops

I did too......interesting site. Saved it to my favorites.
:)

805 logboy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:27:06pm

Not sure if anyone posted this yet...
Steele Cleans House at Republican National Committee

A Republican source says newly elected Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele has requested the resignations of the entire RNC staff and signaled a dramatic turnover at the party organization.

Some aides may be retained, though Republicans are under the impression that Steele will lead a large-scale changeover in the institution, which has about 100 staffers.

806 acwgusa  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:27:06pm

I know I'm late to this thread, but this is just disgusting.

Fuck you, Play-Acting President Obama. 17 decent American Citizens died, and all 17 were far more worthy then you, Dear Leader.

807 Canoe Train  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:27:26pm

re: #66 Shug

I think this would be more analogous to spitting on the service members, in addition to not saluting them. This is so infuriating. In certain parts of the world, people are laughing at and holding the United States in contempt. Nothing could be worse for the US foreign policy thanfailing to back it up with force. I mean, conflicts are not won because one side showed how weak it was, conflicts are won because one side either looked capable or actually made good on their capabilities to destroy the other side. Anyone who has been to the local schoolyard, or been picked on as a kid, knows that if you back away from the bully the bully only becomes more bold. It is only when you actually "prosecute" the bully that he or she knows not to mess around with you. You have to stand up to bullies, and on the international scene this means prosecuting those who bomb your warships.

In other notes, nations survive because they make examples out of others, in addition to becoming examples for others to emulate.

808 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:27:28pm

re: #805 logboy

Not sure if anyone posted this yet...
Steele Cleans House at Republican National Committee

YEAH!

809 screaming_eagle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:27:41pm

re: #800 albusteve

what a fool...he should tax it

Quit giving him any new ideas.

810 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:27:53pm

re: #769 Sharmuta

I'd just ask you keep in mind I'm not against faith- far from it. I'm against the insistence that my faith match the faith of others that I don't agree with. It's one of the reasons I oppose islam, and I'll oppose it from other quarters as well. I hope that makes sense.

It does and I do also

811 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:28:07pm

re: #799 rightymouse

I seriously don't know what keyboard tango is. Like I said, dense.

812 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:28:19pm

re: #800 albusteve

I am personally coming after you if this is Executive Order #2,5678 this clown signs.

813 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:28:31pm

re: #788 ArmyWife

let me guess collins, snow and who else?

814 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:28:48pm

re: #813 Marvo76

It will be Spector.

815 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:29:29pm

re: #812 ArmyWife

I am personally coming after you if this is Executive Order #2,5678 this clown signs.

heh...why wouldnt he consider it?

816 capitalist piglet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:29:34pm

Wow. I just watched the video of the mother of Cole victim James McDaniels, talking to Neil Cavuto. I just want to give her a hug. She expected better from Obama, gave him her vote, and this is what she got...that poor woman. She's very brave to speak her mind about it.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

817 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:29:36pm

re: #810 BBev

Great- then let us leave it in the past and move forward.

818 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:29:42pm

re: #802 Nevergiveup

So now their gonna congratulate themselves for a few hours and then vote? Military History channel here I come. What the hell, I might as well watch Hitlers Bodyguards for the 100th time.


Son wants to watch 'Braveheart' for the umpteenth time. And I have to explain to him that even though we're descended from the Plantaganets, including Longshanks, one could never be sure who the Daddy really was.

819 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:29:52pm

Well folks, in times like these there is but one thing to do. re: #813 Marvo76

I would bet on Specter.

820 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:31:21pm

re: #811 formercorpsman

I seriously don't know what keyboard tango is. Like I said, dense.


Same person using different nics.

821 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:31:55pm

re: #819 ArmyWife

Well folks, in times like these there is but one thing to do.

I would bet on Specter.

would Arlen go for re-up on his own dime?....I want to hear Steele's take

822 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:06pm

re: #818 rightymouse

Son wants to watch 'Braveheart' for the umpteenth time. And I have to explain to him that even though we're descended from the Plantaganets, including Longshanks, one could never be sure who the Daddy really was.

Just curious -- are you descended from John of Gaunt?

823 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:11pm

Ailing Kennedy Flying in to Give Obama 60th Vote
—Ace

824 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:21pm
825 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:31pm

re: #820 rightymouse

Now I know.

826 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:34pm

You know slinging the term "RINO" right now isn't aiding solidarity when we need it. If those Senators get tired of it all and decide to prove you right by putting a D in front of their name tomorrow you will say it's no difference, but it will make a hell of lot of difference. It's not helping our side to sling it.

827 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:42pm

re: #820 rightymouse

Same person using different nics.

I know I may sound naive, but why would anyone want to do that?
What's the point?

828 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:44pm

re: #819 ArmyWife

Well folks, in times like these there is but one thing to do.

I would bet on Specter.

Poltergeists on my computer.

/that's what I am going with at least!

829 kenprice  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:47pm

From what I understand, charges have been "dropped", but can be reinstated at any time. I believe they will be, once the Government figures out how/where to charge them. Obama could never take the "heat" that would result by dropping the charges and releasing the perps. He's naive, not stupid.

830 BigAl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:49pm

re: #808 phoenixgirl

YEAH!

I think Michael Steele is precisely what the GOP needs. Go get 'em, Mike.

831 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:55pm

I don't have any alchohol on hand... OH WAIT I have abottle of wine!

832 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:32:57pm

If there's no vote tonight (as per Fox news) does that mean there's a chance to change some minds before Sat?

833 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:33:11pm

re: #823 Nevergiveup

Ailing Kennedy Flying in to Give Obama 60th Vote
—Ace

F*ck Kennedy ...I don't care if that sounds horrible or not ...

834 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:33:19pm

re: #814 formercorpsman

It will be Spector.

Sean Hannity's ole' buddy.

835 Tamron  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:33:28pm

re: #818 rightymouse

Son wants to watch 'Braveheart' for the umpteenth time. And I have to explain to him that even though we're descended from the Plantaganets, including Longshanks, one could never be sure who the Daddy really was.

Heh...... My grandparents were all Vikings from Sweden, cousin!
.

836 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:33:39pm

Hi y'all - had a little time before dinner and figured I'd like to spend it with y'all.
SO - what are we talking about now?

837 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:33:39pm

re: #782 3 wood

I'm going to post this again so that we can all remember it.

FREEDOM ISN’T FREE.

In fact it is a precious production in a world where oppression and slavery predominate.
The 1982 rankings of the nations of the free world by Freedom House of new York rated only 54 Nations as free. The population of these free nations total 1.5 billion.
The remaining 111 nations of the world are rated partly free or not free. Thus, the majority of the people in the world, more then 2.5 billion are not masters of their destinies. And millions of those live in abject slavery in countries such as Russia, China and Cuba.
The freedom of present-day Americans was purchased at the price, in a war that spanned 13 years, did not guarantee that Americans would live throughout history in freedom. On the contrary, every new generation of Americans has had to repurchase its freedom at great sacrifice often by means of war.
We have come to realize the truth of the oft repeated statement of John Philpot Curran, an Irish member of the English parliament who in 1790 said “The condition upon which God has given liberty to man is eternal vigilance, which condition if he breaks, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and punishment of his guilt”.
The liberty which we enjoy today in this land of the free could be lost tomorrow if we fail for a single instant to keep the light of vigilance burning.
We have paid a terrible price in this 20th century to preserve the freedom given to us by those revered Founding Fathers of 200 years ago.
The total deaths in the major wars we fought in this century exceeded 600,000 and the wounded amounted to more then a million. And yet the threats to our freedom is probably greater now then at any time in our history.
Tragically, the plaintive cry of Lt. Col John McCrae from the Flanders Field of World War I to “take up the quarrel with the foe” has fallen on the ears of a generation who do not hear.
The battlefield is not the only place that freedom can be lost. Every day that we permit the state to exact high taxes, reach into our lives with restrictive regulations, or weaken our economy by enormous giveaway programs to foreign nations, we surrender more of our freedom to the state itself.
The graveyard of history is filled with the remains of nations that suffered and died from the cycle from republic to revolutionary chaos and to dictatorship.
Lincoln once said as a young man that no nation in the world could conquer America in a trial of a thousand years that if we perished it would be by national suicide. Freedom is a fragile thing. Unless each of us conscientiously makes a daily contribution to its preservation it will vanish as quickly as the sparkling dew under a rising sun.
Every child of freedom has a sacred obligation to work tirelessly to keep America strong, hold taxes down and the state in careful check. This is the kind of vigilance that can ensure our national security and happiness. It is indeed a small return from the sacrifice of love of those innumerable patriots who contributed their all to freedom.

Mel Thompson
Marshall Cobleigh

838 ayatollah ghilmeini  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:33:42pm

Obama took an oath to defend this country.

If he releases the Cole bombers and they kill any other Americans, he should be and can be impeached. By his personal action he assisted the murderers in getting away.

Some smart Republican should state loud and proud that if anyone dies as result of this idiocy, the party and the American people will hold him and the democrats fully responsible for the consequences.

This is a shameless abortion of justice and Obama does not understand this sends a terrible signal to America's enemies.

839 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:33:47pm

re: #777 reine.de.tout

done, hoops!

I LOVE YOU REINE!
I love the doc because he is not only the smartest man I've ever talked with in maths and science ( Hawking NEVER answers emails..It's some lady)
He is a good man and I respect him deeply..

840 Canoe Train  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:33:58pm

re: #806 acwgusa

Have to agree, here, as well. I condemn this act. I also wonder why it has taken so long in order to arrive at this decision ? Why has this bomber not been prosecuted yet ?

841 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:34:08pm

re: #803 ArmyWife

RCP Poll
President Obama Job Approval
RCP Average: +40.2% Details
Approve 61.6%
Disapprove 21.4%

Direction of Country
RCP Average: -32.8% Details
Right Direction 28.5%
Wrong Track 61.3%

These numbers just don't jive, do they? If we are headed in the WRONG direction, who is leading us? The one with the 61.6% approval rating?

People think we are headed down the tubes, but it isn't Barry's fault.

/give him a couple more weeks.

842 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:34:17pm

re: #823 Nevergiveup

Wow, if that is true, the RNC has a great ad.

Flying the guy with brain cancer up, because not enough healthy Senators will go along with it.

843 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:34:27pm

re: #827 LGoPs

I know I may sound naive, but why would anyone want to do that?
What's the point?


why would anyone want to vote 3 times as dead people?

844 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:34:39pm

re: #827 LGoPs

I know I may sound naive, but why would anyone want to do that?
What's the point?

narcisim...because they can....
how clever

845 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:34:44pm

re: #823 Nevergiveup

Ailing Kennedy Flying in to Give Obama 60th Vote
—Ace

I would prefer that Mary Jo be flying somewhere tonight.

846 bellamags  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:34:47pm

re: #838 ayatollah ghilmeini

Obama took an oath to defend this country.

If he releases the Cole bombers and they kill any other Americans, he should be and can be impeached. By his personal action he assisted the murderers in getting away.

Some smart Republican should state loud and proud that if anyone dies as result of this idiocy, the party and the American people will hold him and the democrats fully responsible for the consequences.

This is a shameless abortion of justice and Obama does not understand this sends a terrible signal to America's enemies.

beautiful

847 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:34:50pm

re: #828 ArmyWife

Poltergeists on my computer.

/that's what I am going with at least!

And I'm sitting here watching Ghost Hunters on Hulu...

848 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:34:51pm

Keep up the pressure.

849 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:35:07pm

re: #839 HoosierHoops

I LOVE YOU REINE!
I love the doc because he is not only the smartest man I've ever talked with in maths and science ( Hawking NEVER answers emails..It's some lady)
He is a good man and I respect him deeply..

Hoops ... I went to the site but I am way over my head there ...but any friend of yours ...

850 Hobbes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:35:09pm

re: #151 Iron Fist

Let me be polite about it. The goddamn motherfucker is a fucking traitor. He should be impeached, removed from office, and put on trial for treason.

Obviously, I don't expect that to really hapen. The fucking Democrats are basically all traitors, too. Nothing matters to them except that they gain and retain power.

And the Republicans are pussies. They should have been calling the fucking Democrats from, well, the fucking minute they started commiting treason. The was probably when Dick Durbin (D-al Qaeda) went on the floor of the Senate to read al Qaeda propaganda and slanders against ourtroops into the Congressional Record.

(In case you haven't noticed, I'm enraged by this. This is, without question, treason. That should be said repeatedly until Barack Hussein Obama is removed from office and imprisoned for the rest of his natural life in Ft. Leavenworth)

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! DING, DING, DING, ... ETC.

851 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:35:19pm

re: #829 kenprice

He's naive, not stupid.

852 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:35:24pm

re: #793 Sharmuta

Just don't tell him I don't believe in gravity.

He did a great series on the LHC on gavity..very good read..

853 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:35:27pm

I am going out on a dinner date with my husband. Hold down the fort whilst I'm out.

854 ArmyWife  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:35:48pm

re: #847 Dustyvet

Coincidence? I would say not. ;)

855 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:35:54pm

re: #805 logboy

Not sure if anyone posted this yet...
Steele Cleans House at Republican National Committee


I cheered at work when I saw the news. I don't like people losing jobs, but the RNC is a mess.

856 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:35:54pm

re: #826 Thanos

You know slinging the term "RINO" right now isn't aiding solidarity when we need it. If those Senators get tired of it all and decide to prove you right by putting a D in front of their name tomorrow you will say it's no difference, but it will make a hell of lot of difference. It's not helping our side to sling it.

I'm not even sure what a RINO is anymore.

857 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:35:58pm
858 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:36:02pm
859 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:36:20pm

Well, it was inevitable that there was going to be some manner of 'stimulus" bill.

/$780B is better than $900B+

860 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:36:39pm

re: #826 Thanos

You know slinging the term "RINO" right now isn't aiding solidarity when we need it. If those Senators get tired of it all and decide to prove you right by putting a D in front of their name tomorrow you will say it's no difference, but it will make a hell of lot of difference. It's not helping our side to sling it.

I hear ya but if we can't count on them when the chips are down......what the hell are they worth anyway? And if they would be thinking about switching over to the democrats, that bit of snit might be short lived cause if I'm a democrat I'm going to want the real McCoy...not some slippery ex RINO......just my thoughts

861 Canoe Train  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:36:40pm

re: #853 ArmyWife

Will do, Ma'am.

862 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:36:46pm

re: #817 Sharmuta

Cool

863 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:37:16pm

re: #859 Killian Bundy

Well, it was inevitable that there was going to be some manner of 'stimulus" bill.

/$780B is better than $900B+

Its not done yet ...they will try to put some crap in it late at night before it gets voted on ...

864 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:37:18pm

re: #854 ArmyWife

Coincidence? I would say not. ;)

Nope...wink...;) Have a great dinner...:)

865 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:37:46pm

re: #838 ayatollah ghilmeini

Obama took an oath to defend this country.

If he releases the Cole bombers and they kill any other Americans, he should be and can be impeached. By his personal action he assisted the murderers in getting away.

Some smart Republican should state loud and proud that if anyone dies as result of this idiocy, the party and the American people will hold him and the democrats fully responsible for the consequences.

This is a shameless abortion of justice and Obama does not understand this sends a terrible signal to America's enemies.

I concur....but smart Republicans are as rare as Bigfoot...if they are smart they hide beneath the veil of the govt collective taking home a nice paycheck....therefore it aint gonna happen

866 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:37:55pm
867 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:38:05pm
868 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:38:32pm

re: #826 Thanos

You know slinging the term "RINO" right now isn't aiding solidarity when we need it. If those Senators get tired of it all and decide to prove you right by putting a D in front of their name tomorrow you will say it's no difference, but it will make a hell of lot of difference. It's not helping our side to sling it.

The RINOs are about to sell us down the river. Their "moderateness" is letting them do that. They are worse than useless, they are helping to wreck the country.

They should have been booted years ago.

869 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:38:33pm

re: #836 realwest

Hi y'all - had a little time before dinner and figured I'd like to spend it with y'all.
SO - what are we talking about now?

Good evening Real, I got the building done on time and life is good

870 jorline  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:38:54pm

re: #770 HoosierHoops

Hi Jorline! Will you do me 1 favor? With you read my 712 and click on the linl for Anti-matter?
You don't have to even read the sight..But I've been telling him for months that there would be people from here interested in Science..And I know there is..But the hoopster kinds of looks stupid to a PH.d. in math. I look like a liar..

Will do Hoopster.

I don't participate much on the ID threads because I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed on the subject...I'm like a sponge, I take it all in.
Call me the ID Sponge Bob Square Pants.

I have a lot of common sense and know what I believe...
and I know the world NOT 6 millions years old.

Maybe a little younger....
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
HEY, I was Just Kidding!

871 Nevergiveup  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:39:18pm

re: #863 JacksonTn

Its not done yet ...they will try to put some crap in it late at night before it gets voted on ...


At at the senate-congress conference to reconcile the 2 bills they will put more back in so this was just some giant charade tonight. Wake up people!

872 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:39:26pm

re: #860 LGoPs

I hear ya but if we can't count on them when the chips are down......what the hell are they worth anyway? And if they would be thinking about switching over to the democrats, that bit of snit might be short lived cause if I'm a democrat I'm going to want the real McCoy...not some slippery ex RINO......just my thoughts

Just remember how we talked about how the Koslings treated Lieberman -- and get it through your heads that we need these people in the party in the liberal states LIKE IT OR NOT. It's time the Republicans went back to being the adults.

873 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:39:34pm
874 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:39:40pm

re: #859 Killian Bundy

875 Canoe Train  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:40:07pm

re: #870 jorline

I stay out of the ID / evolution threads for much the same reason.

876 Rhino Dryke  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:40:20pm

This is off topic but why do spell checks not recognize the spelling of "Obama". Yahoo's first correction is "ABM". Maybe it's Obama Derangement Syndrome by (computer ) proxy. I am having an irony overdose.

877 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:40:21pm

That Diane McDaniels is a brave woman.

878 Cathypop  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:40:37pm

re: #838 ayatollah ghilmeini

Obama took an oath to defend this country.

If he releases the Cole bombers and they kill any other Americans, he should be and can be impeached. By his personal action he assisted the murderers in getting away.

Some smart Republican should state loud and proud that if anyone dies as result of this idiocy, the party and the American people will hold him and the democrats fully responsible for the consequences.

This is a shameless abortion of justice and Obama does not understand this sends a terrible signal to America's enemies.


Obama is such a worthless piece of shit! What I would really like to say about this worthless ass-wipe ..... ARGH! Disgusting!

879 Lincolntf  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:41:00pm

re: #712 HoosierHoops

That site is interesting, and the guy is obviously a whiz, but I was disappointed to see that he's also an Obamite with a touch of BDS. Anyway, thanks for the link.

"I just caught President Obama’s inauguration speech on our college tv. All of us were highly impressed, from the senior professors to the cleaning women (even my students were riveted). Very impressive and quite moving. I suspect Obama will make a great President and a big difference to the world. It reminded me of old footage of Kennedy, you got a glimpse of the US the rest of us used to be proud of. I suspect many nations around the world are heaving a sigh of relief.. "

880 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:41:04pm

re: #868 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The RINOs are about to sell us down the river. Their "moderateness" is letting them do that. They are worse than useless, they are helping to wreck the country.

They should have been booted years ago.

/but they weren't and now it's a huge pork sandwich and we're all gonna have to take a bite

881 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:41:10pm

What is a RINO? Someone who isn't fiscally conservative? Someone who isn't socially conservative? Who? What? Does it depend on who you ask? I'm confused.

882 JacksonTn  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:41:18pm

re: #876 Rhino Dryke

This is off topic but why do spell checks not recognize the spelling of "Obama". Yahoo's first correction is "ABM". Maybe it's Obama Derangement Syndrome by (computer ) proxy. I am having an irony overdose.

Because ...

Obama = ABM = A Bowel Movement ...

883 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:41:26pm

re: #845 pre-Boomer Marine brat Me too. But I'm confused - I thought someone up thread (ArmyWife perhaps) said at least 3 RINOS (sorry Thanos, but if they vote with the Dems all the time anyway, what difference does it make if they make it formal by changing the R to a D after their names) were going to vote for this preposterous excuse of a stimulus bill, so why fly in Teddy?!

884 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:41:26pm

re: #822 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just curious -- are you descended from John of Gaunt?


No. The line goes through his brother, Edmund and wife Isabel.

885 jorline  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:41:29pm

Have to run...see you later tonight lizards.

886 kawfytawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:41:39pm

Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) and Dustyvet...

going to my first NRA gun training...one on one....on Tues. They said they would let me try out a couple of revolvers and a couple of semi automatics and then focus on the one I am most comfortable with.

887 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:05pm

re: #876 Rhino Dryke

This is off topic but why do spell checks not recognize the spelling of "Obama". Yahoo's first correction is "ABM". Maybe it's Obama Derangement Syndrome by (computer ) proxy. I am having an irony overdose.

did you type in "lord" first... try that it should take.

888 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:08pm

re: #859 Killian Bundy
For some reason my comment didn't make it on, so let us try again. I bet that the part you and I were supposed to get was in the 180 billion they cut...wanna bet?

889 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:13pm

re: #869 BBev
Hey congratulations BBev! Way to go!

890 ProUSA  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:16pm

Obama's new title: DIC = Disgrace in Chief

891 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:19pm

re: #871 Nevergiveup

At at the senate-congress conference to reconcile the 2 bills they will put more back in so this was just some giant charade tonight. Wake up people!

You're right. This could actually turn into a true 1 trillion dollar bill.

892 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:41pm
893 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:48pm
894 calcajun  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:54pm

re: #775 Tamron

Old news on this same topic:

27 USS COLE BOMBERS TUNNEL OUT OF YEMENI JAIL


.

And THAT is the icing on the cake of my day. Sigh.

895 CynicalConservative  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:42:59pm

"It's a good bill because it saves Americans 120 billion dollars, the current bill is only 780 instead of 900 billion"

Are you fucking kidding me, what part of PORK, PORK, PORK don't you understand.

This is a travesty. Stop the insanity.

896 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:43:00pm

Democrats are pissed - so they are attempting to stick it to the American People.

Update: What a scam. Carl Levin says that the money being yanked out now to get the bill through the Senate might very well be reinserted during the conference committee with the House.

[Link: hotair.com...]

897 n in wi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:43:21pm

re: #855 rightymouse

I cheered at work when I saw the news. I don't like people losing jobs, but the RNC is a mess.

Some will just apply at the DNC. It's a paycheck,not a matter of principle.

898 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:44:04pm

re: #870 jorline
Hey jorline, I hope you're doing well tonight - when you get a chance please check your e-mail!

899 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:44:04pm

re: #881 Sharmuta

What is a RINO? Someone who isn't fiscally conservative? Someone who isn't socially conservative? Who? What? Does it depend on who you ask? I'm confused.

Republican In Name Only.
or- A democrat.

900 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:44:11pm

re: #873 Iron Fist

They'll come back for the rest later. You can rest assured of that.

What're ya gonna do, they own all the marbles now?

/this has been brewing since 2006 when Pelosi took over the House, what's happening now shouldn't be much of a shock

901 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:44:31pm

re: #886 kawfytawk

Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) and Dustyvet...

going to my first NRA gun training...one on one....on Tues. They said they would let me try out a couple of revolvers and a couple of semi automatics and then focus on the one I am most comfortable with.

Good for you... Sounds like you are in good hands!

902 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:44:47pm

re: #881 Sharmuta

It depends on who you ask. I spent some time today sampling various GOP platforms from around the country and I'd guess both are a requirement.

903 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:45:02pm

re: #897 n in wi

Some will just apply at the DNC. It's a paycheck,not a matter of principle.


And that stinks. I wonder how many people work around the country at GOP HQ's who undermine the efforts?

904 Tamron  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:45:04pm

re: #879 Lincolntf

That site is interesting, and the guy is obviously a whiz, but I was disappointed to see that he's also an Obamite with a touch of BDS. Anyway, thanks for the link.

"I just caught President Obama’s inauguration speech on our college tv. All of us were highly impressed, from the senior professors to the cleaning women (even my students were riveted). Very impressive and quite moving. I suspect Obama will make a great President and a big difference to the world. It reminded me of old footage of Kennedy, you got a glimpse of the US the rest of us used to be proud of. I suspect many nations around the world are heaving a sigh of relief.. "

Yeah, right.

Wonder how many $$$ the speechwriter got, for that one job?

Just imagine what the speech would have consisted of, if (like Jim Carrey in the movie LAWYER, LAWYER) Obama had said just exactly what was on his mind, with no falsehoods?
.

905 kawfytawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:45:26pm

re: #901 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

yeah...thanks for your help, I really appreciated it.

906 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:45:27pm

re: #896 FrogMarch

sure, why not, hell lt's give the voter the illusion they are really in charge LMAO//////

907 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:45:36pm

re: #881 Sharmuta

What is a RINO? Someone who isn't fiscally conservative? Someone who isn't socially conservative? Who? What? Does it depend on who you ask? I'm confused.

RINO has lost it's meaning because there is no definition to the GOP platform...stick it in mothballs...
imo

908 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:45:41pm

re: #899 FrogMarch

I know what it stands for- what does it mean though? Are we talking fiscal? Social? What?

909 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:45:42pm
910 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:46:16pm

re: #907 albusteve

RINO has lost it's meaning because there is no definition to the GOP platform...stick it in mothballs...
imo

That's kind of what I'm thinking. If there's disagreement about what a conservative is, how can we define a RINO?

911 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:46:24pm

re: #858 Iron Fist

Man, I'm having to really bite my tounge. Charles really wouldn't like it if I was more fucking explicit about the fucking mess this son of a bitch has gifted us with.

There's really no excuse for this. None whatsoever. The fuckers in al Qaeda are probably sitting in a cave somewhere in Waziristan high-fiving each other and praising the name Barack Hussein.

they are fist bumping each other, thanking the universe for this idiot push over citizen of the world.

912 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:46:35pm

re: #902 Killgore Trout

To be honest, I think the term picked up steam during the amnesty bill debates.

It very well could be in the vernacular prior to that, but I recall hearing it most widely used during that time.

913 The Shadow Do  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:46:35pm

Collins plus Specter = bipartisan agreement. Get used to hearing that. This was a bipartisan bill.

Both of them should be prohibited from Republican caucus and named as shameful sell outs by McConnell. To hell with them.

The 2009 Sell America Down the River Bill is now reality. How does it feel to be in hopeless debt my fellow Americans? How does it feel to hope for mercy from your government? Do you think Obama will help you now? Of course you do.

Today I am an official Obama-certified cynic. Sucks to be old and cynical. Really wasn't so before today.

*slams three finger of Canadian Club.*

914 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:46:37pm

re: #909 taxfreekiller

So you're talking non-fiscal republicans?

915 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:46:49pm

re: #909 taxfreekiller

Bush? Rudy? Romney?

916 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:47:32pm
917 screaming_eagle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:47:35pm

re: #909 taxfreekiller

Voinisabitch is just a self-centered fucking asshole.

918 brookly red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:47:48pm

re: #910 Sharmuta

That's kind of what I'm thinking. If there's disagreement about what a conservative is, how can we define a RINO?

well we do know that it eats pork, lets start there...

919 Ledger1  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:47:52pm

While we are kicking the military in the teeth let's be even handed and also kick law enforcement in the teeth.

Set Charles Manson Free!

/

920 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:48:00pm

re: #910 Sharmuta

That's kind of what I'm thinking. If there's disagreement about what a conservative is, how can we define a RINO?

First group out the door to stick a knife in the back of the folks trying to hold firm on spending and our sovereignty.

Their actions make them easy to spot.

921 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:48:16pm

Democrats say Senate has votes to pass stimulus
Fri Feb 6, 2009 7:44pm EST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senate Democrats said they had the votes to pass a scaled-backed $780 billion economic stimulus package, and a senior Democrat said a vote was planned later on Friday.
922 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:48:39pm
923 monkeytime  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:48:42pm

This is the best solution to world peace bar far. If you haven't read it - you really should


Nuke The Moon

I was laughing so hard my side seriously hurts - I had always thought that was just an expression.

924 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:49:04pm
925 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:49:05pm

re: #889 realwest

Hey congratulations BBev! Way to go!

I'll send you some pic's next week

926 laxmi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:49:12pm

Whew, well I've done quite a bit of reading now. Very interesting and I will definitely post back in when I feel I have something to contribute or inquire about! Good evening!

927 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:49:47pm

re: #870 jorline

Will do Hoopster.

I don't participate much on the ID threads because I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed on the subject...I'm like a sponge, I take it all in.
Call me the ID Sponge Bob Square Pants.

I have a lot of common sense and know what I believe...
and I know the world NOT 6 millions years old.

Maybe a little younger....
////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////
HEY, I was Just Kidding!

Thanks dude..This is why i care..Everytime I go into an ID thread there is a lot of belief vs. Science..When I was like 7 yrs old I believed I was Superman..I put on a little cape ..climbed on top og a garbage can and dived head first into the driveway..needless to say..It didnt work out well.
Over the last couple of months I have posted links to respectable science sites..like Anti-matter..Folks he'll spend 3 days explaining the science and math to your questions..
But Not Fucking creationist has ever visited a site i linked to them..Not one Jorline! Not even a drive by fuck you you suck post..Thats my problem..You bring up issues in the natural world and question it..But never ever read what the experts have to say..The concrete has hardened in the mind.
So here is the cape..there is the garbage can..Jump!
/Cue Whitney Houston..So I think I can fly..

928 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:49:53pm

re: #914 Sharmuta

So you're talking non-fiscal republicans?

i'd say the gang of 14

929 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:50:01pm

re: #917 screaming_eagle

Voinisabitch is just a self-centered fucking asshole.

Am glad he isn't running again for office. Worthless piece of RINO flotsam.

930 Sheepdogess  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:50:04pm

re: #858 Iron Fist

Man, I'm having to really bite my tounge. Charles really wouldn't like it if I was more fucking explicit about the fucking mess this son of a bitch has gifted us with.

There's really no excuse for this. None whatsoever. The fuckers in al Qaeda are probably sitting in a cave somewhere in Waziristan mansion somewhere in Chicago high-fiving each other and praising the name Barack Hussein.

FTFY

931 LGoPs  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:50:50pm

re: #881 Sharmuta

What is a RINO? Someone who isn't fiscally conservative? Someone who isn't socially conservative? Who? What? Does it depend on who you ask? I'm confused.

Personally, I define it as one of those Republicans who don't understand that they are in a knife fight with the Democratic party. The ones who don't understand that the old collegial, 'My esteemed colleague' approach gets laughed at behind their backs. Because to this current version of the Democratic Party, the only thing that matters, the only thing that truly needs to be defeated, is conservatism and by extension the Republicans.
I find it interesting that the only time you can get a martial stir out of the Democrats is when they set up a War Room like they did under Clinton. And the bastards intent was to conduct war against the Republicans....it certainly wasn't to keep his eye on our real enemies.
I wouldn't be surpirsed if Obama has an equivalent strategy. The only fight these bastards know how to conduct is against us, their political opponents.
RINO's don't understand this. They don't understand that "whatever comes through those gates, the only chance we have is if we work together. If we stay together, we stay alive"......
Just my rambling, humble opinion........

932 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:51:02pm

Wait... it's Friday... is this the drinking thread?

933 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:51:11pm

re: #849 JacksonTn

Hoops ... I went to the site but I am way over my head there ...but any friend of yours ...

Thank you Jacksontn..I appreciate it

934 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:51:16pm

re: #910 Sharmuta

That's kind of what I'm thinking. If there's disagreement about what a conservative is, how can we define a RINO?

yeppers....conservatism is on the ropes and the GOP is no longer our champion....RINO has no meaning anymore...it's just another label to imply something that doesnt exist...I'm fed up...I hate em all

935 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:51:33pm

re: #884 rightymouse

No. The line goes through his brother, Edmund and wife Isabel.

Ah ha.

(*grin* ... my next question would have been regarding Katherine Swynford.)

936 kawfytawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:51:38pm

re: #922 Iron Fist

I know ...I guess I'm a tad late as I am double that....but I get worried nowadays about the freaks in the world and I would like to be able to protect myself. Luckily, I found a place very near me that holds the law enforcement academy and they train newbies like myself. They are very knowledgeable...big plus

937 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:51:42pm
938 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:51:47pm

re: #932 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Wait... it's Friday... is this the drinking thread?

You're question implies we stopped drinking.....

939 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:51:59pm
"House bill was bloated and wasteful and ineffective. But these minor tweaks have made it pure awesome."

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

940 Ayeless in Ghazi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:52:01pm

Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2012.

941 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:52:06pm

re: #892 taxfreekiller

Thanos,

Your very lucky this childish one went into the peoples woods and smelled the death to keep you free, and I do not like being called childish just for sticking up for the Constitution.

Yours ever true,

Taxfreekiller

TFK I have relatives who died in Nam, so fuck you. I have two fathers who both went three tours, so fuck you. One father's dead with three slugs in his chest, so fuck you. I"ve been pro military all my life, and was getting ready to go myself when it was over before I graduated, so fuck you.

"I'm not voting for Guiliani, he's a rino!"
"I'm not voting for McCain, he's a rino!"
"I'm not voting for x in the local races, he's a rino!"

Who's CIC now? Who Holds Congress now?

942 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:52:32pm

re: #938 jcm

You're question implies we stopped drinking.....

Man, I'll catch up... but will die trying.

943 kawfytawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:52:50pm

re: #938 jcm

You're question implies we stopped drinking.....

LOL

944 screaming_eagle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:52:50pm

re: #929 rightymouse

Am glad he isn't running again for office. Worthless piece of RINO flotsam.

He knows he would lose. His own party wants him out. Plus look what happened to gang of 14 member DeWine.

945 Idle Drifter  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:53:13pm

Well, I just came home from work after picking up my vehicle from the dealership to see President Obama's handy work and I realized my mouth was hanging open 2 inches from the floor. Just my 2 cents.

946 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:53:14pm

re: #935 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Ah ha.

(*grin* ... my next question would have been regarding Katherine Swynford.)

One of John's wives? Heh. What did she do?

947 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:53:14pm

IMO - Rino's are simply slightly right-of center democrats who manage to get elected in liberal states. (usually)

948 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:53:21pm

re: #922 Iron Fist

Have fun. The next gun show I'm planning on taking a guy I know. He's in his 20s and has never fired a gun. I simply can't imagine that. I was like seven when I first shot a gun.

stroke!...I envy the kid....I'd have a thousand questions

949 Tamron  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:53:27pm

re: #919 Ledger1

While we are kicking the military in the teeth let's be even handed and also kick law enforcement in the teeth.

Set Charles Manson Free!

/


New idea, same concept: Fire all of the policemen in the country and shut down all of the prisons, and we'd save a BUNCH of money!
.

950 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:53:30pm

re: #924 taxfreekiller

Keep it simple.

John F. Kerry is a leader of the Democrats.

RINO's often vote the same way Kerry votes.

is that clear enough

Calm down Dusty, calm down...

951 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:53:40pm

re: #932 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Wait... it's Friday... is this the drinking thread?

With 0bama in office, every thread is the drinking thread.

952 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:54:10pm

re: #951 Kosh's Shadow

With 0bama in office, every thread is the drinking thread.

Change! Hope!

Yahoo!

953 Soona'  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:54:49pm

re: #926 laxmi

Whew, well I've done quite a bit of reading now. Very interesting and I will definitely post back in when I feel I have something to contribute or inquire about! Good evening!

Good evening to you and the rest of you lizard honcos. Have a good weekend.

954 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:54:53pm

re: #942 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Man, I'll catch up... but will die trying.

Everclear and Gatorade...:)

955 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:55:01pm

re: #939 FrogMarch

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

more:

Specter(A-rino): Thousands of people losing their jobs every day. This old fuck is more wrinkled and nasty than Gollum's asshole. (Another Dane Cook gag.)

Ah, the reservations, like we heard during his impeachment vote. Many parts of this bill give Gollum's Asshole "heartburn" and should not be part of a stimulus bill, but part of the normal appropriations procedure. But he's of course still voting for it.

956 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:55:06pm

re: #938 jcm

You're question implies we stopped drinking.....

heh....nuff said

957 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:55:48pm

re: #952 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Change! Hope!

Yahoo!

If you REALLY want to get drunk, the idea is to have a drink every time 0bama or his press secretary says "Ummm", "Uh", or "ah".
I suggest, if you want to play that game, you buy a distillery, and some spare livers.

958 phoenixgirl  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:55:52pm

re: #955 FrogMarch

"fundamental fairness dictates......"
"scottish law........."

959 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:56:00pm
960 FrogMarch  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:56:39pm

Bottom line - they gotta roll old Teddy in to get to 60. pathetic.

961 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:56:52pm

Boy, this is going to be an interesting night.

962 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:57:03pm

I think a RINO is someone who wears the tag of Republican, but votes with the Democrats either most of the time or on bills which 99% of Republicans oppose.
Sometimes it's a means of personal political surivival -if your constitunecy is more liberal Left on many issues, you may be obliged to vote with the Dems to keep your job.
OTOH, When the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of Republcans oppose a truly significant bill like this stupid pork/stimulus package (you know, the ones that all House Republicans voted against) and you consistently choose to side with the Dems and vote with the Dems, then you are a RINO.
And it doesn't matter what your state or national party platform says - nobody really reads those things anyway and when they do it's just to play "Gotcha" - writing a party platfrom, especially at the state level, is sort of a low level "payback" to someone for a favor(s) done in the past - it makes those who write those platforms feel important.

963 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:57:04pm

re: #937 Iron Fist

the pork, of course, I've been expecting. That it has taken this long is a tribute to former President Bush and his willingness to veto this shit.

But the letting the al Qaeda freaks go? That was never even a blip on the radar screen. I expected bad from Obama, but even I didn't expect it to be this bad this soon.

he picked a perfect time to do it.
everyone hollering abt. the pork bill. that's the sell out we're busy with.
bankrupting our country.
and he lets the jihadis loose.

964 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:57:11pm

re: #960 FrogMarch

There is no shame.

965 Dave the.....  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:57:19pm

Know what's fun? Going to a college newspaper web sire, or you local free entertainment newspaper, and calling them tools of the establishment. Ask them why they advocate the State dept's policies.

These liberals haven't realized yet that they are tools of the gov't. It's hard to be the rebel when conservatives point out that you are marching in lock step with the gov't.

966 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:57:27pm

re: #959 Iron Fist

You do realize that he can't run for President, don't you? I doubt that he could win the nomination if he could run, but that is simply not in the cards.

I have to question a man's judgement that will take on the governorship of CA in these times

967 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:57:30pm

re: #29 Eowyn2

There is no double if they recharge him. There would be if they charged him, brought him to trial, and then found him innocent of the charges.

968 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:57:50pm

re: #921 jcm
Hey jcm - if that's true, then I again ask why they are flying Teddy back to vote?!

969 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:58:04pm
Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said Crawford withdrew the charges against al-Nashiri. However, new charges can be brought again later, and al-Nashiri will remain in prison for the time being.

Hmmm.....

970 The Shadow Do  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:58:29pm

re: #940 Jimmah

Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2012.

Oh, brother.

971 kawfytawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:58:31pm

re: #960 FrogMarch

Bottom line - they gotta roll old Teddy in to get to 60. pathetic.

ROFL
I can just picture that...Kennedy on a gurney, hooked up to IVs , Reid and Pelosi pushing him down the aisle

972 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:58:42pm

re: #946 rightymouse

One of John's wives? Heh. What did she do?

The third.
Katherine. Anya Seton. Fiction, but Seton did her homework.

973 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:58:56pm

re: #968 realwest

Someone alluded earlier, none of the Republicans want to be the 60th vote.

That would be my guess.

974 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:58:57pm

Woops, mom just called dinner so I'm outta here for now. Hope I get the chance to see you all down the road tonight!

975 Randall Gross  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:59:02pm

I'm out before I say something I'll really regret.

976 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:59:13pm

re: #969 Spare O'Lake

Hmmm.....

I'll send the son of a bitch a candy gram...

977 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:59:16pm
978 Canoe Train  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:59:20pm

I will ask a second time. Why has it taken this long before reaching this decision ? why has this bastard not yet been prosecuted ?

979 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:59:21pm

I'm seeing vague definitions of RINO.

I became a republican because I believe in fiscal responsibility and limited government. So to me a RINO would be one that works against these principles.

But then there are republicans who think I'm a rino because I'm not socially conservative enough for their tastes. I don't think it's the governments role to tell me how to live my life if I'm not breaking the law. But I'm a rino because I support real science, I'm a rino because I think homosexuals should be treated equally under the law, I'm a rino because I think Constitutional Amendments to deal with social issues is the wrong approach.

So- what is RINO?

980 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:59:22pm

re: #910 Sharmuta

We are talking Republicans, not conservatives. We don't have to guess what the Republican party is all about, they'll tell us....
Education


We will energetically assert the right of students to engage in voluntary prayer in schools and to have equal access to school facilities for religious purposes. We renew our call for replacing “family planning” programs for teens with increased funding for abstinence education, which teaches abstinence until marriage as the responsible and expected standard of behavior.
...
Free speech on college campuses is to be celebrated, but there should be no place in academia for anti-Semitism or racism of any kind. We oppose the hiring, firing, tenure, and promotion practices at universities that discriminate on the basis of political or ideological belief. ("academic Freedom"? -ed)


I won't even bother picking apart their Values section but there's not a whole lot there that reflects who I am.

981 Tamron  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:59:28pm

Heads up:

Ashley Judd will be on LARRY KINK LIVE tonight, bitching about Sarah Palin single-handedly killing all of those cuddly wolves here in Alaska.
.

982 Moonbat Serenade  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:59:51pm

Fox just reported first vote on Porkorama could come Sunday afternoon.

983 Digital Display  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 4:59:52pm

re: #879 Lincolntf

That site is interesting, and the guy is obviously a whiz, but I was disappointed to see that he's also an Obamite with a touch of BDS. Anyway, thanks for the link.

"I just caught President Obama’s inauguration speech on our college tv. All of us were highly impressed, from the senior professors to the cleaning women (even my students were riveted). Very impressive and quite moving. I suspect Obama will make a great President and a big difference to the world. It reminded me of old footage of Kennedy, you got a glimpse of the US the rest of us used to be proud of. I suspect many nations around the world are heaving a sigh of relief.. "

Thanks for reading him..Look friend..Did you ever know a college prof that wasn't liberal? This is just science..Not politics..
Thanks for clicking on his site..Saturday I'll give him grief about LGF lizards clicking his site..He'll be stunned

984 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:00:04pm

re: #977 Iron Fist

No doubt. I was thinking in more local precincts....

985 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:00:17pm

Ok... who are the two (2) repubs voting with the donks?

986 Canoe Train  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:00:32pm

re: #977 Iron Fist

You're assuming we even make it through the next four years. Given Iran's desires and motives and actions, I am having my doubts.

987 kawfytawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:00:40pm

re: #985 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Collins has to be one of them

988 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:00:50pm

re: #944 screaming_eagle

He knows he would lose. His own party wants him out. Plus look what happened to gang of 14 member DeWine.

You got that straight. I knew we'd take a hit in Ohio getting rid of DeWine, but it needed to be done. Voinovich needs to go out to pasture as well.

What do you think of LaTourette?

989 nyc redneck  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:01:10pm

i'd rather have a zell miller dem than a rino any day.
we need to reach the dems who can't take it anymore.

990 Mirage  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:01:19pm

re: #879 Lincolntf

That site is interesting, and the guy is obviously a whiz, but I was disappointed to see that he's also an Obamite with a touch of BDS. Anyway, thanks for the link.

"I just caught President Obama’s inauguration speech on our college tv. All of us were highly impressed, from the senior professors to the cleaning women (even my students were riveted). Very impressive and quite moving. I suspect Obama will make a great President and a big difference to the world. It reminded me of old footage of Kennedy, you got a glimpse of the US the rest of us used to be proud of. I suspect many nations around the world are heaving a sigh of relief.. "

I noticed that too when I took a look. Things were very interesting at first (I enjoy reading about anti-matter and quantum theory). But when I hit that entry I left the site. He should stick to the science.

991 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:01:27pm

re: #978 Canoe Train

I will ask a second time. Why has it taken this long before reaching this decision ? why has this bastard not yet been prosecuted ?

# Republican In Name Only, or RINO, is a neologism created by Los Angeles conservative activist, Celeste Greig. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RiNO

# Republican In Name Only. This is a liberal who runs as a Republican, for what ever reason. Examples include Lincoln Chafee of Rhaode Island and ...
ronsmusings.com/definitions/

992 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:01:34pm

re: #987 kawfytawk

Collins has to be one of them

Snowe? Her partner in crime?

993 jaunte  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:01:49pm

re: #979 Sharmuta

RINO is too slippery and imprecise a term to be of much use except to tell someone you think they are not enough like you.

994 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:01:52pm

re: #947 FrogMarch

IMO - Rino's are simply slightly right-of center democrats who manage to get elected in liberal states. (usually)


Bloomberg comes to mind.

995 txlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:02:45pm

re: #321 Dustyvet

I got fed up in the Clinton years. Did my four and did it well. I attained the rank of SGT and got out. I got out because I felt that there was nothing that I believed in with him in charge. I'm also a female, so that played a bit of a role. I could have stayed in, because the job was more of a thinking job and not one that required fighting. Never the less one is always a soldier first. The bottom line is that, even though I could have easily stayed in and had a good life, I didn't believe in the purpose of me being there. I'm sure that it's, at least, four fold for the military personnel now. This leads me to conclude that BHO is going to require some sort of military service. He will call it the peace corp or something, but mark my words there will need to be something, because the people that I know, that is the type of people that would go in to the service, are probably looking for a way out or would no longer consider it as an option.

996 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:03:02pm

re: #992 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Snowe? Her partner in crime?

Snowe is such a little cootie....I cant stand her blue hair and trumped up accent

997 kawfytawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:03:37pm

What I don't get is that the Dem leadership are such idiots...I mean BLOOMIN idiots....are there not more than a few dems who are disgusted enough to buck the tide?

998 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:04:21pm

re: #980 Killgore Trout
and Sharmuta - thanks for reading my #962 - Party Political Platforms, State or National really don't mean much except in the game of Gotcha.
Why not read the Democratic National Party Platform - who knows, you may actually be Dems by THAT definition and you don't even know it.

999 saberry0530  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:04:31pm

re: #859 Killian Bundy

Well, it was inevitable that there was going to be some manner of 'stimulus" bill.

/$780B is better than $900B+

I like the way Newt put it. "80 % of bad is still bad"

1000 albusteve  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:04:38pm

re: #993 jaunte

RINO is too slippery and imprecise a term to be of much use except to tell someone you think they are not enough like you.

you cant define RINO til you can define Republican....pretty simple

1001 kawfytawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:05:16pm

re: #992 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

could be ....I really would like to know who caved

1002 ciaospirit  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:05:20pm

re: #879 Lincolntf

you got a glimpse of the US the rest of us used to be proud of.


Lines like that make me livid.

1003 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:05:23pm

re: #979 Sharmuta

Why not vote for conservative Democrat?

You summed up quite a few positions many of them posses.

1004 realwest  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:05:25pm

re: #991 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - didja ever read that e-mail I sent to you?

Now I am outta here for dinner!

1005 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:05:35pm

re: #997 kawfytawk

What I don't get is that the Dem leadership are such idiots...I mean BLOOMIN idiots....are there not more than a few dems who are disgusted enough to buck the tide?

Except for Joe Lieberman, they all left ... or died off.

1006 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:06:04pm

re: #981 Tamron

Heads up:

Ashley Judd will be on LARRY KINK LIVE tonight, bitching about Sarah Palin single-handedly killing all of those cuddly wolves here in Alaska.
.

Here's my favorite story about those cuddly wolves. It's a .pdf file.

1007 screaming_eagle  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:06:07pm

re: #988 rightymouse

You got that straight. I knew we'd take a hit in Ohio getting rid of DeWine, but it needed to be done. Voinovich needs to go out to pasture as well.

What do you think of LaTourette?

Don't know much about LaTourette. I'd like to see our rep jump up(Jim Jordan) but he claims to have no interests.

1008 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:06:21pm
1009 JHW  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:06:32pm

re: #902 Killgore Trout

It depends on who you ask. I spent some time today sampling various GOP platforms from around the country and I'd guess both are a requirement.

I was inspired by your comment to look at, for the first time, the Washington state Republican party platform, and then , for comparison, to the Oregon one. Vast differences. Washington's is much less detailed, more fiscally oriented, opposition to imposition of a state income tax is always huge here.Opposition in long term to agricultural subsidies. No mention of school curricula, in contrast to Oregon. It's almost as if they are two different parties. Very, very different emphases as I see it.

1010 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:06:50pm

I'm out of here for the evening.
Everyone have a good night.

1011 kawfytawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:07:39pm

re: #1005 pre-Boomer Marine brat

your probably right...Its like having that boss who couldn't manage their way out of a paper sack.....you just wanna revolt

1012 kawfytawk  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:08:28pm

new thread on our stimulating demise

1013 txlady  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:08:40pm

re: #676 jcm
the so called jobs americans won't do because the government won't let them

1014 Canoe Train  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:08:42pm

re: #981 Tamron

sarcasm/

Booh F----- hoo, a daughty celebrity deigns to advise us hoi polloi from her anointed perch atop the elite on how we are to treat animals who would otherwise die from starvation. I think I shall watch another channel, as I do not care to listen to some self righteous jackass braying about something which she knows next to nothing. F her (not literally).

/sarcasm off

1015 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:08:57pm

re: #1000 albusteve

Ronald Reagan defined "Conservativism" since 1964, re: "A time for choosing".
He displayed it in 8 years as president.

1016 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:08:59pm

re: #1009 JHW

It is interesting to look at a few states' platforms and compare. I never bothered to look at them before today.

1017 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:09:15pm

re: #1007 screaming_eagle

Don't know much about LaTourette. I'd like to see our rep jump up(Jim Jordan) but he claims to have no interests.


Not familiar with Jordan. Will check him out.

1018 rightymouse  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:09:43pm

re: #1010 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm out of here for the evening.
Everyone have a good night.


G'night! Am out soon too.

1019 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:10:29pm
1020 BBev  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:11:00pm

re: #940 Jimmah

Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2012.

?

1021 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:12:03pm

re: #1016 Killgore Trout

Oregon state GOP party platform calls for creationism to be taught in schools.

1022 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:13:11pm

re: #1003 formercorpsman

Show me a democrat with integrity that believes in fiscal responsibility and limited government.

1023 JHW  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:13:24pm

re: #1016 Killgore Trout

It is interesting to look at a few states' platforms and compare. I never bothered to look at them before today.

Absolutely, I think I'm going to check out several more. I think the Oregon approach is far too detailed and in some instances, narrow. They, for instance, poke far more into school curricula than I'm comfortable with.

1024 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:14:27pm

re: #1005 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We need another Sam Nunn....

1025 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:14:37pm

re: #1006 wrenchwench

I guess baby Caraboo are NOT cuddly?

1026 mean Gene  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:15:06pm

re: #1021 Sharmuta

Oregon state GOP party platform calls for creationism to be taught in schools.

Is that different from ID?

1027 Sheepdogess  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:16:31pm

re: #151 Iron Fist

Let me be polite about it. The goddamn motherfucker is a fucking traitor. He should be impeached, removed from office, and put on trial for treason.

Obviously, I don't expect that to really hapen. The fucking Democrats are basically all traitors, too. Nothing matters to them except that they gain and retain power.

And the Republicans are pussies. They should have been calling the fucking Democrats from, well, the fucking minute they started commiting treason. The was probably when Dick Durbin (D-al Qaeda) went on the floor of the Senate to read al Qaeda propaganda and slanders against ourtroops into the Congressional Record.

(In case you haven't noticed, I'm enraged by this. This is, without question, treason. That should be said repeatedly until Barack Hussein Obama is removed from office and imprisoned for the rest of his natural life in Ft. Leavenworth)

Fuck polite, I think they are all insane.

1028 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:16:55pm

re: #1021 Sharmuta

Sharmuta, I was born in Roseburg, Oregon: spent much of my childhood there and it bothers me how left it has gone over the years. Now the Oregon GOP supports creationism? That is dismaying.

1029 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:19:41pm

re: #1021 Sharmuta

I was going to put together a list of all the state GOP platforms that endorse creationism but I soon realized that it would take too long and it would be a pain in the ass.

1030 JHW  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:19:47pm

re: #1028 BatGuano

Yes, that is in their platform. And I chose to examine Washington and Oregon platforms because the two states are, in general, very similar politically. The difference in their platforms is like night and day. Surprising to me.

1031 smokefire  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:20:41pm

re: #962 realwest

Realwest, check email.

1032 Findalis  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:20:48pm

This nice Muslim will be released back to his home land, then turn around and kill more Americans. This is B. Hussein's way of keeping us safe.

1033 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:20:50pm

re: #1023 JHW

Schools are a big issue here. We have a terrible school system, even in the wealthy districts. It's a real mess.

1034 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:22:26pm

re: #1029 Killgore Trout

I have a partial list on the DI thread from last night. Comments 609 and 610.

1035 Sheepdogess  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:22:33pm

re: #802 Nevergiveup

If you have Netflx, take a look at Ship Of Fools
[Link: www.amazon.com...] Great movie.

1036 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:22:42pm

re: #1028 BatGuano

The platform is on their website.

1037 outsidephilly  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:23:08pm

re: #646 formercorpsman

It does blow your mind. How many times has he done this type of thing to his constituents?

I would say lets do it, but it won't make a damn bit of difference.

I have an older friend who is pretty connected in certain political circles. He is friends with one of the justices.

This justice's opinion, is that it will take 30 years of hard times to get us back to where we actually cherish, and abide by the constitution.

Sometimes, I think he might be right.

I 'hear' what you're saying, however, I'd like to look into his eyes as he answers my questions . . . . , if not him, his office staff.

When Rick Santorum (?sp) was around I would call him and he or his staff were always eagerly available.

Sen. Spector can't be as callous as Mr. Obamba....., could he?

1038 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:23:10pm

re: #1026 mean Gene

Is that different from ID?

No.

1039 Spiny Norman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:23:36pm

I wonder how long before charges against Khalid Sheikh Mohammed are dropped and he is released.

1040 [deleted]  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:23:46pm
1041 JHW  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:24:49pm

The Washington platform is 5 pages, mostly economic matters, Oregon 48 pages.

1042 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:26:11pm

re: #1022 Sharmuta

My point being Sharmuta, whether you agree with it or not, most people who identify with the republican base, consider themselves to be socially conservative, & fiscally conservative.

Most I know, like I consider myself, are live and let live.

The caveat, and lets not kid each other, we have been down this road before, is that social issues are not solitary to the individual. Too many special interest groups by proxy aim to impose upon people who would otherwise be live and let with certain issues, the impetus to now accept, and in many cases, be fiscally complicit in by the extension of tax obligations, that which they choose not to be.

Someone posted up thread, which I happen to agree, Ronald Reagan seemed to convince the country as to what a Republican was.

Asking me to find you a democrat to vote for would be incumbent upon the voter looking for their ideological fit. Being I don't know where you reside, I can't really offer anyone in earnest.

1043 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:28:36pm

re: #1037 outsidephilly

Even though I don't believe in term limits, I understand why so many people were for them.

D.C. has a way of stealing the soul out of people, and making them forget what they were sent there for in the first place.

1044 sevoguy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:28:44pm

The Satanic Army of Muhammed and the Trogan Horse President.

A sad day for America and those who have fought and died to keep her free.

I bleed.

1045 Canoe Train  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:29:38pm

re: #753 Nevergiveup

Har har. They want to get from Palm Beach back to DC ? Let's see them take Amtrak.

1046 formercorpsman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:32:45pm

Heading home.

1047 Spiny Norman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:33:16pm

Excuse me, but shouldn't the "it's basically a requirement to be a creationist to be a Republican" discussion be on this thread?

Ferf*ckssake.

1048 winston06  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:35:44pm

re: #590 Bullskin

thnx friend

1049 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:35:56pm

re: #1029 Killgore Trout

I was going to put together a list of all the state GOP platforms that endorse creationism but I soon realized that it would take too long and it would be a pain in the ass.

Sharmuta- doing the pain in the ass work other Lizards refuse to do. ;p

1050 winston06  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:36:07pm

re: #579 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

it is so horrible the Alligator can't even digest it ;-)

1051 tai-pan  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:36:09pm

obama=asshole!

1052 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:37:06pm

re: #712 HoosierHoops

OK, I hit him!

1053 BatGuano  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:38:56pm

re: #1036 Sharmuta

Just went there, read it, thanks

1054 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:44:21pm

We have elected Gaias Balthar.

1055 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:45:29pm

Hi folks, there's another thread if you want to talk O/T.

In the meantime, I'd like to discuss the topic.

1056 Spiny Norman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:45:58pm

re: #1054 astronmr20

We have elected Gaias Balthar.

It might've been worse, we could've elected creationists.

1057 Spiny Norman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:46:29pm

re: #1055 astronmr20

Hi folks, there's another thread if you want to talk O/T.

In the meantime, I'd like to discuss the topic.

So would I, but apparently that is not permitted.

1058 Hobbes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:51:10pm

re: #896 FrogMarch

Democrats are pissed - so they are attempting to stick it to the American People.

[Link: hotair.com...]

Swell. Isn't that sweet!

1059 Ayeless in Ghazi  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:51:46pm

re: #1020 BBev

re: #940 Jimmah

Arnold Schwarzenegger in 2012.

?

The campaign starts here.

Image: 2012.jpg

Image: change.jpg

1060 Killgore Trout  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:54:51pm

re: #1049 Sharmuta

I gave up when I noticed that a lot of times they don't mention it directly like in the national GOP platform. Sometimes they hide it as allusions to academic freedom type stuff.

1061 EE  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:56:28pm

Under Barack Hussein, hope and change appear to be exclusively for the jihaditerrorists. For the intended victims, and for the families of the victims, there is only despair.

1062 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:57:21pm

re: #1060 Killgore Trout

22 state parties don't list their platform on their websites, so I have nore research yet to do. I only looked for obvious instances of "teach the weaknesses" but some states were outright in mentioning ID or creationism. When the entire list is complete- I'll publish it.

1063 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 5:58:05pm

re: #1062 Sharmuta

Err- nore = more. Guess I need some koffee.

1064 astronmr20  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:01:03pm

Wait..

Just so I'm clear on this, the president said he's freezing all of the military tribunals/ trials. How did that lead to charged being dropped today?

is it because there is legally no other way to "freeze trials," especially since his arraignment was today?


Someone help me out.

1065 Spiny Norman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:09:57pm

re: #1058 Hobbes

re: #896 FrogMarch

Democrats are pissed - so they are attempting to stick it to the American People.

Swell. Isn't that sweet!

John McCain(!):

"This is not bi-partisan, this is two Republican Senators that decided to meet with Democrats behind closed doors."

John Thune:

“You can’t call this a bi-partisan effort without re-defining the word.”

Damn straight.

Oh, wait! Nevermind, they're creationists, so fuck 'em.

1066 Spiny Norman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:12:56pm

re: #1064 astronmr20

Wait..

Just so I'm clear on this, the president said he's freezing all of the military tribunals/ trials. How did that lead to charged being dropped today?

is it because there is legally no other way to "freeze trials," especially since his arraignment was today?

Someone help me out.

Basically, yes. The judge hearing the cases said, "No, Mr President, you can't do that". So Barry says, "Oh yeah? Watch this!" and has his Justice Dept. drop all charges against the terrorist scumbuckets.

So here we are.

1067 Hobbes  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:19:23pm

re: #910 Sharmuta

That's kind of what I'm thinking. If there's disagreement about what a conservative is, how can we define a RINO?

Ok, this will probably get me a lot of down dings, but here goes.

My definition of a Rhino is a Democrat who knew and their backers knew, for whatever reason, they were not going to get elected if they ran as one. So, they changed from the "D" after their name to an "R". They convinced the voting population while campaigning that they had Republican and/or conservative ideas and beliefs and were then elected in strong Republican districts as the lesser of two evils. However, after they were elected they could pretend they were Republicans being bipartisan and crossing the line to vote with Democrats . That way when the bills, etc. that the Democrats support are failures, the Democrats can say, "Hey, Republicans agreed with this!" And, our "friends" the MSM can continue to blame the Republicans. There's nothing subtle about this Rinos are the classical wolves in sheep's clothing. The acronym exists for good reason-to wit, Cynthia Snow, etc.

1068 gringo69  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:26:19pm

I need some arugula! Can we have a recall on this Obama looser?

1069 Spiny Norman  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:42:31pm

re: #1067 Hobbes

No down-dings here. That was pretty fair.

There are also some RINOs who actually believe they are Republican "moderates", and that "compromise" with Democrats is "good for the country". They never seem to see that the Dems are laughing their asses off at them behind their backs and go on to ignore anything they've agreed on. Like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown every single freaking time.

1070 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:45:18pm

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

1071 BorgQueen  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 6:53:13pm

This guy's going to be forced to resign before he's finished half his term.

1072 Ezekiel2517  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 7:21:35pm

Say what you want about Obama, at least America will be remembered fondly when he's through with it.

1073 Namath  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:09:25pm

I've already instructed my wife to sue the A$$ off of the Peoples States of America when I get killed by a terrorist at my desk in Manhattan.

1074 BIGDUKE 6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:22:41pm

re: #14 nyc redneck

im sick also

1075 Canoe Train  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:39:03pm

Just to reiterate, I think that this action is an infuriating and extremely thoughtless travesty of justice. I condemn this act by our Elected Leader.

1076 6pat6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:47:57pm

Our newly-selected Dear Leader loves to step on his dick. To think, the Cole bombing occurred during BILL CLINTON'S term! The guy was held for nearly nine full years! And, now, he gets a friggin' pass!

Our nation continues to turn its back on common sense and justice. "Oh, we want to be friends with you, Mister Terrorist Guy! Please accept our sincere apologies! Here is a million dollars to help ease your pain! Be free and go back to your homeland and tell your friends and colleagues that we mean you no harm "BOOM!"".

We are in soooooo much shit because of the BHO and his lackeys in Congress - of BOTH parties, plus a 47% electorate that has no functioning brain matter.

1077 Macker  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:51:08pm

re: #1071 BorgQueen

From your lips to God's ears!

1078 VioletTiger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:52:06pm

As I now understand the chain of events, he asked to meet with the victims families, did the vile deed before meeting with them, and then went out to a show with his wife.
[deleted]

1079 Macker  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:53:18pm

re: #1039 Spiny Norman

I wonder how long before charges against Khalid Sheikh Mohammed are dropped and he is released.

72 hours.

1080 earthwirm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:57:46pm

F Obama

1081 cincinnati_kid37  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 8:59:31pm

NO CHARLES.

17 Military Personnel were murdered. There is a big difference.

1082 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:24:59pm

re: #971 kawfytawk

ROFL
I can just picture that...Kennedy on a gurney, hooked up to IVs , Reid and Pelosi pushing him down the aisle

Somehow I think the picture of someone pushing him down the steps of the capitol has more appeal.....

1083 6pat6  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:27:50pm

God help us.

1084 Marvo76  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:39:33pm

re: #979 Sharmuta

Sharm, please don't shoot the messenger here, but let me take a stab at it.
Republican in Name only
in my book defines someone who is only loosely aligned with the party's central platform, While you may be a fiscal conservative, the areas you are more "liberal" with such as Homosexual rights would be left of the platform in which support for traditional marriage is supported over someone trying to get rights for a sexual preference. It is the platform that is central to the meaning, the further away from the core "beliefs" the more you are "republican in name only" This is why the platform committee is so important to the conventions when electing the president, it "defines" what they stand for and what the party stands for. Democrats think that we are to "right wing" and conservatives lament the if the party goes to far left to reach "center" or "middle ground", in truth since the Democrats believe themselves to be the "inclusive" party they are able to rally more votes for things in the scratch my back areas of bills. While a fiscal conservative may indeed be a republican it took a Ronald reagan to unit the party behind a platform with a firm message that all parts of the platform need support of the entire party in order for them to win. Whereas a W and his "compasionate conservatism" was a reach across around to garner support in specific areas in order to further an agenda that "resembled" the platform rather than adhered to it, while forgetting the veto pen in order to further "understanding". We saw how well that worked out didn't we and I even voted for W.....yet we lost ground....

1085 mattm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 9:41:49pm

He has failed.

1086 CharlieBravo  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:07:54am

New 'Rules of Engagement': Take no prisoners.

1087 willtay73  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:54:11am

All Pres Obama is going to do is piss his base off even more now. The government is now holding this guy without charges. Isn't that the same thing that all the crazy libs complained about when Bush was in office? Will we hear the outrage?

1088 samhein  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:31:07am

According to the figures I saw for the last census, there were a little over 300mil people in the USA. Round it the 4mil for anyone missed, and they could give $1mil to every legal citizen and still be way under the billions of $'s they want to spend.
Now, THAT seems to me like it would be a real stimulis. Mortgages would be paid, new homes bought, new cars bought, etc. all in turn which would help the banks and car companies and other manufacturers. Give people that much, and they will spend. And it will cost the gov't a fraction of what they're looking at putting out.


re: #376 jaunte

From the Corner:

$10,286 for Every Middle Class Family
[Marc Thiessen]

John Thune introduced an amendment to scrap the entire stimulus, and replace it with an across the board middle class tax rebate. Ask the average American family—would you prefer Congress spend tens of millions on STD prevention and fish pathways—or sent you a check for $10,286?


[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

1089 samhein  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:43:37am

I would like to know what went on at that meeting.

I was came in on Beck's show while doing a little channel surfing. He was supposed to be interviewing a couple family members and I think the commanding officer of the ship on the White House lawn, via remote. I wanted to hear, so I left it on.

Well, the interviews never happened. I seems as though after the interviews, the people where quickly escourted out of the White House and out of the gate, leaving the crew all set up on the lawn or driveway (whatever) with no "interviewees".

Beck thought that everything would be squared around and the interviews just a bit late, but 1/2hr later, still no interviews and still no one who was supposed to be interviewed let back into the gates.

Hmm.....As I said, I wonder what happened.......Sounds like at the last minute, someone didn't want those interviews to happen.


re: #1078 VioletTiger

As I now understand the chain of events, he asked to meet with the victims families, did the vile deed before meeting with them, and then went out to a show with his wife.
[deleted]

1090 Seax  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 10:09:04am

Holy schmoly...what next ?! Gaza comes to America...
From the Israel Matzav site

$20.3 Million for the Resettlement of Radical Muslims
PRESIDENT OBAMA INVITES HAMAS TERRORISTS TO AMERICA by
Paul L. Williams , Bos Smith,Michael Travis

Anyone know what is happening?

1091 Bullskin  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:09:18pm

re: #1048 winston06

Your are welcome mate.

1092 Picayune  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:24:15pm

re: #14 nyc redneck

he is a fcking disgrace.


even if these charges can be reinstated later, his message is clear.

he cares more abt. world opinion than he does his own country.


That loud, high pitched noise - it's coming from the nose-dive that US Military morale is taking today. Imagine the impact of this CIC act on those who serve.
Still, they're our best/brightest - and I still got faith in'em!

1093 rumcrook  Sun, Feb 8, 2009 8:49:14am

this is what you get when americans vote an america blamer into office as president.

his world view revolves around the notion that we are responsible for the ills of the world.

thierfore, american needs, justice for americans and our safety will come second to showing murderers and eurotrash we're sorry for being bad all these years.

soft diplomacy dont ya know.

1094 Tarheel  Sun, Feb 8, 2009 10:29:37am

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Pig fucking SOB

AND.....Them's his good points!

1095 kywrite  Sun, Feb 8, 2009 3:35:28pm

re: #1092 Picayune

My husband works subs; when he came home, he told me the whole sub community is PISSED, military members and contractors alike. Military guys aren't allowed to dis the president -- but they can say whatever they like about his policies. And they did. What they couldn't say, the contractors, who are mostly retired military anyway, said for them.

There will be no Navy support for him and the Dems, come next election. This one won't be forgotten.

1096 kywrite  Sun, Feb 8, 2009 3:39:48pm

re: #1086 CharlieBravo

New 'Rules of Engagement': Take no prisoners.

I said that to my husband about a week or so ago, when the Big Zero was trying to stop all the trials at Gitmo. Why take prisoners when the bastards will be out and shooting at you and yours again in a few months? In every previous war, didn't we hold POWs until the end of the war -- without trials? But then, in previous wars, people shooting soldiers without wearing uniforms were summarily shot. That sounds okay to me.


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