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Mark Twain

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1 sngnsgt  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:24:20pm

Open for business.

2 MJ  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:24:36pm

Savings lost to Madoff, elderly forced back to work

BOSTON (Reuters) - After losing his entire life's savings to disgraced fund manager Bernard Madoff, 90-year-old Ian Thiermann abandoned retirement and now works the aisles of a grocery store to make ends meet.

[Link: uk.reuters.com...]

Why isn't Madoff in jail?

3 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:26:41pm

A dietitian was once addressing a large audience in Chicago.

"The material we put into our stomachs is enough to have killed most of us sitting here, years ago. Red meat is awful. Soft drinks erode your stomach lining. Chinese food is loaded with MSG. Vegetables can be disastrous, and none of us realizes the long-term harm caused by the germs in our drinking water. But there is one thing that is the most dangerous of all and we all have, or will, eat it. Can anyone here tell me what food it is that causes the most grief and suffering for years after eating it?"

A 75-year-old man in the front row stood up and said, "Wedding cake."

4 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:28:46pm

Associated Press CEO demands more open access to US military operations- calls Armed Forces 'Bush's Propaganda Machine'.

/these fucking quislings are falling all over themselves to pat themselves on the back while sales and circulation plummet.

5 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:28:52pm

re: #2 MJ

Savings lost to Madoff, elderly forced back to work

[Link: uk.reuters.com...]

Why isn't Madoff in jail?

Why isn't congress in jail?
*same scam*

6 Maximu§  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:29:07pm

Friday night at last

7 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:29:58pm

re: #4 Fenway_Nation

Associated Press CEO demands more open access to US military operations- calls Armed Forces 'Bush's Propaganda Machine'.

/these fucking quislings are falling all over themselves to pat themselves on the back while sales and circulation plummet.

Sure, just they'd just publish the plans for Operation Overload on June 1st.

8 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:30:23pm

re: #2 MJ

Savings lost to Madoff, elderly forced back to work


[Link: uk.reuters.com...]

Why isn't Madoff in jail?

Our congresscritters probably wanna fine-tune his ponzi scheme so they can use it on the taxpayers...

9 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:31:22pm

"Oh, I sure am glad to see you," the little boy said to his grandmother (on his mother's side). "Now Daddy will do the trick he's been promising us."
The grandmother was curious. "What trick is that?" she asked.
"He told Mommy that he'd climb the walls if you came to visit," answered the boy.

10 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:32:15pm

Good evening, all. I'm here after a long day's work!

11 Emperor Norton  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:32:20pm

Somebody robbed the Glendale train, and Madoff with the gold.

12 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:32:50pm

re: #8 Fenway_Nation

Our congresscritters probably wanna fine-tune his ponzi scheme so they can use it on the taxpayers...

Who'd learn from who?
Madoff $50 Billion
Social Security $650 Billion.

13 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:33:21pm

re: #10 gmsc

Good evening, all. I'm here after a long day's work!

HAH! Still at work...
*groan*
Another 30 minutes.

14 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:34:28pm

Quiz: How Old Are You Really?
From the following list of 25 items, count all the ones that you remember -- not the ones you were told about! How to score yourself is at the end.

1. Blackjack chewing gum
2. Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar-water
3. Candy cigarettes
4. Soda-pop machines that dispensed bottles Went Ballistic cartoon
5. Coffee shops with tableside jukeboxes
6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers
7. Party lines
8. Newsreels before the movie
9. P. F. Flyers
10. Butch wax
11. Telephone numbers with a word prefix (e.g., Olive - 6933)
12. Peashooters
13. Howdy Doody
14. 45-RPM records ... and 78-RPM records
15. S&H Green Stamps
16. Hi-fi systems
17. Metal ice trays with lever
18. Mimeograph paper
19. Blue flashbulb
20. Packards
21. Rollerskate keys
22. Cork popguns
23. Drive-in theaters
24. Studebakers
25. Washtub wringers

Cartoon: seniors talking about abs If you remembered!
0 - 5 = You're still young
6 - 10 = You are getting older
11 - 15 = Don't tell your age
16 - 25 = You're older than you think!
Be sure to pass this along -- especially to all your friends with really good memories.

15 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:34:33pm

re: #13 jcm

HAH! Still at work...
*groan*
Another 30 minutes.

We'll help you pass the time as best we can.

16 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:35:58pm

re: #12 jcm


Some people have been getting wise to Social Security. The fact that Madoff was running a ponzi scheme took a number of people by surprise (not the least of wich was the SEC).

Altho' with the benefit of hindsight, apparently everyone BUT the SEC was suspicious.

17 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:36:38pm

re: #2 MJ

Madoff also wiped out the Elie Wiesel foundation. A real mensch ole' Bernie. ..."We are writing to inform you that the Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity had $15.2 million under management with Bernard Madoff Investment Securities. This represented substantially all of the Foundation's assets." [Link: www.eliewieselfoundation.org...]

18 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:36:54pm

Navy hopes high tide will help free grounded warship

One of the biggest and most technologically advanced warships based at Pearl Harbor remained aground today in 17 to 22 feet of water a half-mile off Honolulu International Airport's Reef Runway.

No one was injured in the incident, which was reported around 9 last night, the Navy said.

Navy tugs tried early in the morning to nudge the 9,600-ton and 567-foot guided missile cruiser USS Port Royal off the sandy bottom, but were unsuccessful, officials said.

Crew members on the Clean Islands, an oil recovery vessel that was positioned behind the Port Royal as a precaution, said the water was so shallow they could see the bottom.

The Navy said divers from Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit One from Pearl Harbor and the salvage ship USS Salvor would try to tow the warship.

Officials said the guided missile cruiser left port yesterday for several days of sea trials after leaving drydock about a month ago for routine maintenance. Shore-based Navy officials were being transferred to Hickam harbor by small boat when the grounding occurred, the Navy said.

Navy officials said a high tide that could float the cruiser off the bottom is expected at 2:45 a.m. tomorrow morning.

Whoops!

/sucks to be Captain John Carroll right about now

19 Unakite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:37:06pm

re: #5 jcm

Why isn't congress in jail?
*same scam*

Immunity.

20 Attaboid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:37:23pm

re: #14 Dustyvet

I scored 19.
And I'm 53 today.

21 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:37:38pm

re: #15 gmsc

We'll help you pass the time as best we can.

Re-test a new product that had some bad code used to test it.
Gotta' ship samples out first thing Monday to customers.
3 minutes for each test, nothing to do during that 3 minutes except hang out here.

22 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:38:47pm

re: #20 Attaboid

I scored 19.
And I'm 53 today.

well done...:)

23 Unakite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:39:32pm

re: #14 Dustyvet

Quiz: How Old Are You Really?
From the following list of 25 items, count all the ones that you remember -- not the ones you were told about! How to score yourself is at the end.

1. Blackjack chewing gum
2. Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar-water
3. Candy cigarettes
4. Soda-pop machines that dispensed bottles Went Ballistic cartoon
5. Coffee shops with tableside jukeboxes
6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers
7. Party lines
8. Newsreels before the movie
9. P. F. Flyers
10. Butch wax
11. Telephone numbers with a word prefix (e.g., Olive - 6933)
12. Peashooters
13. Howdy Doody
14. 45-RPM records ... and 78-RPM records
15. S&H Green Stamps
16. Hi-fi systems
17. Metal ice trays with lever
18. Mimeograph paper
19. Blue flashbulb
20. Packards
21. Rollerskate keys
22. Cork popguns
23. Drive-in theaters
24. Studebakers
25. Washtub wringers

Cartoon: seniors talking about abs If you remembered!
0 - 5 = You're still young
6 - 10 = You are getting older
11 - 15 = Don't tell your age
16 - 25 = You're older than you think!
Be sure to pass this along -- especially to all your friends with really good memories.

Over 16..less than 25.

24 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:39:35pm

re: #19 Unakite

Immunity.

Yeah, I know. Doesn't make it any less crooked.

25 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:39:54pm

Report: Shalit deal may be reached by Tuesday

Turkish news channel CNN Turk reported on Friday that a deal to secure the release of abducted Israel Defense Forces soldier Gilad Shalit may be reached by Tuesday.

The TV channel said that Turkish officials were currently holding talks on the issue with Hamas officials in Damascus, the base of the Islamist militant group's political leadership.

Reuters Friday quoted a Palestinian official as saying that Turkey and Qatar have taken a lead role in the negotiations over Shalit in recent months.

The CNN Turk report came after Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Friday said that Israel's leadership was making "supreme" efforts to bring Shalit back home.

"Supreme efforts are being made in order to hurry the moment when Gilad Shalit will come home," Barak told Channel 1. "We know that he is well, alive, breathing and okay, but we need to bring him here from there."

/if true, this would obviously be extremely good news!

26 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:40:25pm

Lenny was in trouble. He forgot his wedding anniversary. His wife was really angry.


She told him, 'Tomorrow morning, I expect to find a gift in the driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in less than 6 seconds. AND IT HAD BETTER BE THERE!


The next morning Lenny got up early and left for work. When his wife woke up, she looked out the window and sure enough there was a gift-wrapped box in the middle of the driveway. Confused, the wife put on her robe, ran out to the driveway, and brought the box back in the house.


She opened it and found a brand new bathroom scale.


Lenny has been missing since Friday. Please pray for him.

27 MandyManners  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:41:10pm

re: #4 Fenway_Nation

Associated Press CEO demands more open access to US military operations- calls Armed Forces 'Bush's Propaganda Machine'.

/these fucking quislings are falling all over themselves to pat themselves on the back while sales and circulation plummet.

"So now is the time to re-negotiate the rules of engagement between the military and the media," he said. "Now is the time to insist that the First Amendment does apply to the battlefield."

Not when human lives are at stake, you fucking twit.

28 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:41:32pm

re: #14 Dustyvet

Quiz: How Old Are You Really?

Here's a few things to think about for anyone on this board over 30:

Do you remember watching the news about the Berlin Wall coming down?

Do you remember hearing about Universal Studios Theme Park opening in Orlando?

Do you remember when the Motion Picture Artists' Association first introduced the NC-17 rating to replace X?

Do you remember Roseanne Barr singing the National Anthem, and the horrible job she did?

Do you remember hearing about the launch of the Hubble Telescope?

If you remember any or all of those things, consider this:

When all of these things happened, none of this year's college freshmen had been born yet!

(Courtesy 2012 Beloit College Mindset List)

29 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:41:35pm

re: #14 Dustyvet
Your just trying to make me feel ancient aren't you and I'm not that old.

30 blackpajamas  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:42:08pm

re: #1 sngnsgt

Open for business.

Do I have to check my stimulus package at the door?

31 MandyManners  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:42:38pm

re: #7 jcm

Sure, just they'd just publish the plans for Operation Overload on June 1st.

Journalists back then would not have. There's a vastly different breed reporting nowadays.

32 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:43:07pm

re: #27 MandyManners

"So now is the time to re-negotiate the rules of engagement between the military and the media," he said. "Now is the time to insist that the First Amendment does apply to the battlefield."

Not when human lives are at stake, you fucking twit.

Someone should ask that fucking twit how the 1st Amend guarantees access to information.

I wonder if the fucking twit has even read the 1st Amend.

33 MandyManners  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:43:25pm

re: #2 MJ

Savings lost to Madoff, elderly forced back to work


[Link: uk.reuters.com...]

Why isn't Madoff in jail?

He's not been convicted yet.

34 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:43:33pm

re: #25 Killian Bundy

Do you really think he's still alive KB? I doubt it.

35 blackpajamas  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:43:38pm

re: #2 MJ

Why isn't Madoff in jail?

The inmates are afraid of losing all their cigarettes.

36 tommygum  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:44:32pm

Guy checks into a motel. Says to the clerk "is the porn channel in my room disabled?' Clerk says "you freak, we only have regular porn!"

37 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:44:37pm

re: #29 Rustler

Your just trying to make me feel ancient aren't you and I'm not that old.

Nah, because in dog years I'm dead...:)

38 ggt  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:44:57pm

weet dreams all!

39 MandyManners  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:45:08pm

re: #32 jcm

Someone should ask that fucking twit how the 1st Amend guarantees access to information.

I wonder if the fucking twit has even read the 1st Amend.

I shudder at the thought of a government doing business in closed rooms.

40 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:45:28pm

re: #20 Attaboid

I scored 19.
And I'm 53 today.

Happy Birthday!

I scored 13, and I'm 41.

41 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:45:29pm

re: #37 Dustyvet 29 years old and I got 17 of 25 lol.

42 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:45:38pm

re: #38 ggt

weet dreams all!

Good night, ggt!

43 Unakite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:45:56pm

re: #28 gmsc

Here's a few things to think about for anyone on this board over 30:

Do you remember watching the news about the Berlin Wall coming down?

Do you remember hearing about Universal Studios Theme Park opening in Orlando?

Do you remember when the Motion Picture Artists' Association first introduced the NC-17 rating to replace X?

Do you remember Roseanne Barr singing the National Anthem, and the horrible job she did?

Do you remember hearing about the launch of the Hubble Telescope?

If you remember any or all of those things, consider this:

When all of these things happened, none of this year's college freshmen had been born yet!

(Courtesy 2012 Beloit College Mindset List)

I remember all of those things except the Roseanne Barr thing. My psychiatrist keeps saying something about a memory block.

44 BakaRanger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:45:57pm

re: #14 Dustyvet

19 here, just turned 56. Yikes!

45 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:46:03pm

Is there anything nastier than Blackjack Gum tho?

46 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:46:23pm

re: #41 Rustler

29 years old and I got 17 of 25 lol.

I'm 61 and I taking the 5th...:)

47 Sharmuta  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:46:33pm

re: #45 Rustler

Is there anything nastier than Blackjack Gum tho?

No.

48 Erik The Red  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:47:36pm

BBL

49 MandyManners  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:48:26pm

re: #45 Rustler

Is there anything nastier than Blackjack Gum tho?

WAB's fashion sense?

50 Unakite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:48:31pm

re: #44 BakaRanger

19 here, just turned 56. Yikes!

OK, since it's late and we're fessin' up, I'm 49 (there, I said it).

51 Attaboid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:48:33pm

re: #40 gmsc

Thank you.

52 blackpajamas  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:48:36pm

Hey, how you 'doin? What a crowd tonight! Hey, I just thought I'd drop in
like a stray mortal shell from Gaza -- boy are my black market arms tired!

No respect, I don't get no respect, I tell-ya ...

* How many politicians does it take to build a fire?

It depends on how you stack them.

* How do you get a politician to take a principled stand?

Cement.

*Why did the fat-cat politician cross the road?

They couldn't outrun the steam roller.

* What did the politician get on their I.Q. test?

Drool.

* What does a politician have that a criminal doesn't?

A resume.

* What does a criminal have that a politician doesn't?

A last request.

* What do you call a politician in a straight jacket?

A good start.

* How many politicians does it take to screw in a light-bulb?

Just The One -- to spend three trillion dollars and hope it changes itself.

*What's the difference between massive inflation and crushing deflation?

Charlie Rangel and Barney Frank on a see-saw.

(Reminder: Please tip your gender-neutral wait-person!)

53 BakaRanger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:48:41pm

re: #45 Rustler
Is there anything nastier than Blackjack Gum tho?

Getting your fingers caught in the Washtub wringers.

54 Racer X  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:49:20pm

re: #20 Attaboid

I scored 19.
And I'm 53 today.

Happy Birthday!

55 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:49:46pm

re: #51 Attaboid

Thank you.

You're welcome.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:49:48pm

re: #43 Unakite

I remember all of those things except the Roseanne Barr thing. My psychiatrist keeps saying something about a memory block.

Interestingly, since this is not a woman who normally hides her more obnoxious thoughts and deeds, Roseanne insists that she told them that she couldn't sing, she knew it was going to be awful, and she didn't do it on purpose.

But that doesn't mend any eardrums.

57 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:49:53pm

re: #49 MandyManners Ok that might be it.

58 Kragar  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:50:09pm

re: #45 Rustler

Is there anything nastier than Blackjack Gum tho?

Madeline Albright in a leather thong bikini

59 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:50:25pm

re: #39 MandyManners

I shudder at the thought of a government doing business in closed rooms.

When the founders wrote the 1st Amend the public debate was carried out in and by partisan press. Papers where openly partisan, up until WWI most towns had a Republican paper and a Democrat paper.

The founders made their arguments for and against things in these papers. The founders never imagined the sycophant media of today.

You are correct about government operating behind closed doors. I was addressing this twits wanting access to military operations, note he doesn't say a word about wanting access to democrat party caucus meetings.

60 tommygum  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:50:37pm

re: #52 blackpajamas

Try the veal, I'll be here all week.

61 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:50:40pm

re: #53 BakaRanger

Well there is a reason it was called a laundry Mangle.

62 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:51:02pm

re: #52 blackpajamas

* How many politicians does it take . . .

What's the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead politician in the road?

There are skid marks before the skunk!

63 Killian Bundy  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:51:03pm

re: #34 MrPaulRevere

Do you really think he's still alive KB? I doubt it.

The Israeli government seems to think so.

Barak told Channel 1. "We know that he is well, alive, breathing and okay, but we need to bring him here from there."

/good enough for me

64 tommygum  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:51:41pm

re: #58 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Madeline Albright in a leather thong bikini

That's just nasty.

65 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:52:05pm

re: #58 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Eww im going to go put out my eyes now. I should have said worse tasting. As Barney Fwanks in a thong is far worse sensory torture than blackjack as well.

66 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:52:31pm

re: #14 Dustyvet

Quiz: How Old Are You Really?
From the following list of 25 items, count all the ones that you remember -- not the ones you were told about! How to score yourself is at the end.

1. Blackjack chewing gum
2. Wax Coke-shaped bottles with colored sugar-water
3. Candy cigarettes
4. Soda-pop machines that dispensed bottles Went Ballistic cartoon
5. Coffee shops with tableside jukeboxes
6. Home milk delivery in glass bottles with cardboard stoppers
7. Party lines
8. Newsreels before the movie
9. P. F. Flyers
10. Butch wax
11. Telephone numbers with a word prefix (e.g., Olive - 6933)
12. Peashooters
13. Howdy Doody
14. 45-RPM records ... and 78-RPM records
15. S&H Green Stamps
16. Hi-fi systems
17. Metal ice trays with lever
18. Mimeograph paper
19. Blue flashbulb
20. Packards
21. Rollerskate keys
22. Cork popguns
23. Drive-in theaters
24. Studebakers
25. Washtub wringers

Cartoon: seniors talking about abs If you remembered!
0 - 5 = You're still young
6 - 10 = You are getting older
11 - 15 = Don't tell your age
16 - 25 = You're older than you think!
Be sure to pass this along -- especially to all your friends with really good memories.

Remember 'em? Heck, I still own some of 'em. Metal ice tray with levers in fridge, check. 45s and 78s in record rack, check. Studebakers in driveway, check.

67 blackpajamas  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:52:33pm

“Everyone’s going to have to give a little and understand this is a process,”
-- Harry Reid

Yeah, stick that under your pillow and see what the excuse fairy leaves you, ya dirty bum.

The citizens of Nevada are going to tolerate you like an inflamed wall of prostate tissue.

68 sngnsgt  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:52:34pm

re: #30 blackpajamas

Do I have to check my stimulus package at the door?

Nah, I know it's only full of empty promises.

69 Unakite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:52:40pm

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

Interestingly, since this is not a woman who normally hides her more obnoxious thoughts and deeds, Roseanne insists that she told them that she couldn't sing, she knew it was going to be awful, and she didn't do it on purpose.

But that doesn't mend any eardrums.

It's amazing. I wonder who actually thought that was a good idea.

70 Kragar  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:52:49pm

re: #64 tommygum

That's just nasty.

Could be worse.

She could have a gallon bottle of baby oil and Helen Thomas on speed dial

71 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:52:54pm

Octuplets’ mom pretty sure she’ll be able to pay for kids — after she’s out of school


She's in school?

72 Unakite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:53:18pm

re: #58 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Madeline Albright in a leather thong bikini

Oooohhh!

73 MandyManners  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:53:36pm

re: #59 jcm

When the founders wrote the 1st Amend the public debate was carried out in and by partisan press. Papers where openly partisan, up until WWI most towns had a Republican paper and a Democrat paper.

The founders made their arguments for and against things in these papers. The founders never imagined the sycophant media of today.

You are correct about government operating behind closed doors. I was addressing this twits wanting access to military operations, note he doesn't say a word about wanting access to democrat party caucus meetings.

The DNC is a private club. War is public business. However, today's reporters' lips would sink 1,000 ships.

74 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:53:39pm

re: #67 blackpajamas

“Everyone’s going to have to give a little and understand this is a process,”
-- Harry Reid

Yeah, stick that under your pillow and see what the excuse fairy leaves you, ya dirty bum.

The citizens of Nevada are going to tolerate you like an inflamed wall of prostate tissue.

That's offensive to inflamed walls of prostate tissues everywhere...

75 tommygum  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:53:48pm

re: #65 Rustler

Eww im going to go put out my eyes now. I should have said worse tasting. As Barney Fwanks in a thong is far worse sensory torture than blackjack as well.

Barney in ass-less chaps.

76 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:54:21pm

re: #62 gmsc

And acceleration tracks before the Politician.

77 traderjoe9  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:54:33pm

re: #25 Killian Bundy

Report: Shalit deal may be reached by Tuesday

/if true, this would obviously be extremely good news!

Please don't misconstrue what I'm going to say...I'm an Israeli citizen and, like everyone else, would simply be overjoyed if Gilad Shalit returned safe and healthy.

I'm just hoping this deal can be put on hold until Wednesday...

78 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:54:41pm

re: #71 Dustyvet

Octuplets’ mom pretty sure she’ll be able to pay for kids — after she’s out of school


She's in school?

The poor grandmother told the press that her daughter has always loved children, but she wishes she would have just been a kindergarten teacher instead.

79 MandyManners  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:54:57pm

re: #71 Dustyvet

Octuplets’ mom pretty sure she’ll be able to pay for kids — after she’s out of school


She's in school?

Who's gonna' watch all14 while she's in class?

80 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:54:58pm

re: #62 gmsc

A cannibal was walking through the jungle and came upon a restaurant operated by a fellow cannibal. Feeling somewhat hungry, he sat down and looked over the menu..
Tourist: $5
Broiled Missionary: $10.00
Fried Explorer: $15.00
Baked Democrat or Grilled Republican: $100.00
The cannibal called the waiter over and asked, 'Why such a price difference for the Politician?
The cook replied, "Have you ever tried to clean one of them?"

81 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:55:39pm

re: #75 tommygum

Barney in ass-less chaps.

Excuse me while i make a phone call, ordering a tanker truck of brain Bleach...

82 blackpajamas  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:55:58pm

re: #62 gmsc

What's the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead politician in the road?

There are skid marks before the skunk!

True, true, alternately:

Michael Moore won't try to mount the skunk.

83 Attaboid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:56:16pm

What is #10 Butch wax?

Does anyone remember those orange edible wax whistles?

84 Racer X  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:56:52pm

re: #75 tommygum

Barney in ass-less chaps.

That's just sick.

Antidote.

85 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:56:55pm

re: #20 Attaboid

I scored 19.
And I'm 53 today.

While we still have a few minutes on the West Coast where it's still February 6th, here's some trivia for you.

You share a February 6th birthday with this famous person!

86 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:57:08pm

re: #83 Attaboid

What is #10 Butch wax?

Does anyone remember those orange edible wax whistles?

Yup, and wax lips...:{

87 Unakite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:57:30pm

re: #75 tommygum

Barney in ass-less chaps.

Alright, this has passed the level of sick humor! I'm trying to finish my last late-night drink.

88 gmsc  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:57:34pm

re: #67 blackpajamas

“Everyone’s going to have to give a little and understand this is a process,”
-- Harry Reid

Yeah, stick that under your pillow and see what the excuse fairy leaves you, ya dirty bum.

The citizens of Nevada are going to tolerate you like an inflamed wall of prostate tissue.

I'm certainly casting my vote against him in 2010, when he's up for re-election.

89 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:57:42pm

re: #73 MandyManners

The DNC is a private club. War is public business. However, today's reporters' lips would sink 1,000 ships.

DNC yes, the caucus no.

War is public business. Not future operational plans.

90 MrPaulRevere  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:57:54pm

re: #63 Killian Bundy

Fair enough and thanks for the reply. I'm very cynical when it comes to our friends in headscarves.

91 tommygum  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:57:54pm

re: #83 Attaboid

What is #10 Butch wax?

Does anyone remember those orange edible wax whistles?

How Rosie O'Donnell gets her Brazilian.

92 BakaRanger  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:58:12pm

What is #10 Butch wax?

Does anyone remember those orange edible wax whistles?


Does anyone remember Hot Cinnamon Toothpicks?

93 Unakite  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:58:50pm

re: #79 MandyManners

Who's gonna' watch all14 while she's in class?

Waddaya mean? They are the class.

94 jcm  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:59:02pm

re: #85 gmsc

While we still have a few minutes on the West Coast where it's still February 6th, here's some trivia for you.

You share a February 6th birthday with this famous person!

You dirty rotten no good skunk you...

Ronald Wilson Reagan (February 6, 1911 – June 5, 2004)

95 Kragar  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:59:05pm

re: #92 BakaRanger

What is #10 Butch wax?

Does anyone remember those orange edible wax whistles?


Does anyone remember Hot Cinnamon Toothpicks?

I DO! Those were awesome!

Squirt Gum anyone? The gum with the gel center?

96 Rustler  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:59:09pm

re: #71 Dustyvet
She will be able to pay for the kids once she works out the 3 million or so deal she has in the works for her story. No clue WTF anyone would want with the story of a woman who just keeps having babies cause she doesn't want to be alone like she was as an only child. I would however really like to find out who the Doctor was that implanted 6 embryoes to yield 8 babies. Also wtf was he thinking implanting embryoes into an unemployed unmarried mother of 6 recieving welfare.

97 Dustyvet  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:59:50pm

re: #92 BakaRanger

What is #10 Butch wax?

Does anyone remember those orange edible wax whistles?

Does anyone remember Hot Cinnamon Toothpicks?

We used to buy oil of cinnamon at the Drug Store and make our own.

98 Attaboid  Fri, Feb 6, 2009 11:59:59pm

re: #85 gmsc

Not my favorite song /artist. ;)

Anyway it's Feb 7 here. I'll google those birthdates.

99 Unakite  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:00:01am

re: #80 jcm

A cannibal was walking through the jungle and came upon a restaurant operated by a fellow cannibal. Feeling somewhat hungry, he sat down and looked over the menu..
Tourist: $5
Broiled Missionary: $10.00
Fried Explorer: $15.00
Baked Democrat or Grilled Republican: $100.00
The cannibal called the waiter over and asked, 'Why such a price difference for the Politician?
The cook replied, "Have you ever tried to clean one of them?"

Did you hear the one about the cannibal that passed his brother in the forest?

100 Racer X  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:00:13am

I remember "smoking" candy cigarettes when I was about ten. You could blow flour out the end like a puff of smoke.

101 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:00:24am

re: #92 BakaRanger

What is #10 Butch wax?

Does anyone remember those orange edible wax whistles?


Does anyone remember Hot Cinnamon Toothpicks?

I DO! Those were awesome!

Squirt Gum anyone? The gum with the gel center?

That gum was great! Beats the crap out of Gummy Bears.

102 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:00:27am

re: #94 jcm

You dirty rotten no good skunk you...

Ronald Wilson Reagan (February 6, 1911 – June 5, 2004)

Well, that famous person does have a Feb. 6th birthday! You can even check the birthday wishes in the comments.

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:00:31am

re: #90 MrPaulRevere

Fair enough and thanks for the reply. I'm very cynical when it comes to our friends in headscarves.

You don't trust Orthodox housewives? What did they ever do to you?

/

104 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:00:33am

re: #89 jcm

DNC yes, the caucus no.

War is public business. Not future operational plans.

Why any reporter would think she/he is entitled to them is beyond me.

105 jcm  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:00:42am

re: #95 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I DO! Those were awesome!

Squirt Gum anyone? The gum with the gel center?

Fizzies!

106 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:00:52am

re: #92 BakaRanger
I used to make my own.

107 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:00:56am

re: #93 Unakite

Waddaya mean? They are the class.

How many do you need for a baseball team?

108 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:01:06am

re: #92 BakaRanger

What is #10 Butch wax?

Does anyone remember those orange edible wax whistles?


Does anyone remember Hot Cinnamon Toothpicks?

Those are still around. My TA last year gave some to my students, they loved 'em.

109 jcm  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:01:14am

re: #104 MandyManners

Why any reporter would think she/he is entitled to them is beyond me.

Hate of the military.

110 Kragar  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:01:35am

re: #105 jcm

Fizzies!

Chunky when it was like a 2 inch square block of chocolate

111 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:01:52am

re: #98 Attaboid

Not my favorite song /artist. ;)

Anyway it's Feb 7 here. I'll google those birthdates.

Save yourself some time. Just go to Wikipedia, and type in whatever date you want to know about.

All on one page, you've got famous births, deaths and events!

112 Unakite  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:01:52am

re: #84 Racer X

That's just sick.

Antidote.

Thank you!

113 SFGoth  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:02:05am

Well Lizards and Lizzies, ya'all have fun now. I gotsta get to bed b/c I have a long day of property rights defending tomorrow followed by a circa-1792 dance tomorrow evening (www.peers.org/Pimpernel.html). (Lemme tell you, there's something awfully erotic about having hot, passionate sex with a woman when you're both dressed uppercrust fashionable. I find that few women look better naked than finely dressed, and I daresay that goes the other way for the fairer gender.)

114 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:02:07am

re: #96 Rustler

She will be able to pay for the kids once she works out the 3 million or so deal she has in the works for her story. No clue WTF anyone would want with the story of a woman who just keeps having babies cause she doesn't want to be alone like she was as an only child. I would however really like to find out who the Doctor was that implanted 6 embryoes to yield 8 babies. Also wtf was he thinking implanting embryoes into an unemployed unmarried mother of 6 recieving welfare.

I wonder if he's Muslim, too.

115 Attaboid  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:02:07am

re: #100 Racer X

YES!

116 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:02:12am

re: #95 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I DO! Those were awesome!

Squirt Gum anyone? The gum with the gel center?

I loved that stuff. And the striped chewing gum with the zebra on the label.

117 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:02:29am

re: #104 MandyManners

Over-inflated sense of self-importance, I guess.

118 Killian Bundy  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:02:53am

re: #77 traderjoe9

I'm just hoping this deal can be put on hold until Wednesday...

You know, the timing did seem like a coincidence, but I didn't think of that.

/Hamas fears Likud so much that they'd try and influence the election by releasing Shalit, hmmm, interesting concept

119 blackpajamas  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:02:58am

One more cranial constipation to work out, then I've gotta hit the showers:

Simultaneous Porkgasm

“‘this is not a stimulus bill, this is a spending bill,’ What do you think a stimulus is? That’s the whole point. No, seriously, that’s the point. Now I got carried away…” --- The One

“We are passing a bold and responsible plan that will help our economy get back on its feet, put people to work and put more money in their pockets,”
-- Majority Loser Harry Reid (D)

Yup, back on the feet, with money in the pocket, like an over-subscribed hooker!

The foolish are like ripples on water, For whatsoever they do is quickly effaced; But the righteous are like carvings upon stone, For their smallest act is durable.
-- Horace

(g'nite!)

120 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:03:08am

re: #109 jcm

Hate of the military.

I wonder if CBBHO is gonna' gut the $4,000,000,000.00 propganda budget.

121 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:03:34am

Hola, honcos! Hope all of you are doing well tonight.

122 Attaboid  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:03:48am

re: #111 gmsc

Great tip. Thanks.

123 Edouard  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:03:53am

It may soon be time for Conservatives to misbehave, if/when this dreadful "Stimulus" passes ...

A 21st century Boston Tea Party may soon be called for (Democrats are currently doing their level best to create a majority non-taxpaying dependency/entitlement class) ...

Theme song for the tax revolt at the "Link": Get ready to RUMBLE

124 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:04:02am

re: #92 BakaRanger

What is #10 Butch wax?

Does anyone remember those orange edible wax whistles?


Does anyone remember Hot Cinnamon Toothpicks?

Those are still around. My TA last year gave some to my students, they loved 'em.


I would love to know where you can still get them. I would go through a pack a day at grade school. Good times!

125 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:04:07am

re: #120 MandyManners Nah it'll be redirected into his nice honorable Civilian defense force.

126 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:04:09am

re: #113 SFGoth

Well Lizards and Lizzies, ya'all have fun now. I gotsta get to bed b/c I have a long day of property rights defending tomorrow followed by a circa-1792 dance tomorrow evening (www.peers.org/Pimpernel.html). (Lemme tell you, there's something awfully erotic about having hot, passionate sex with a woman when you're both dressed uppercrust fashionable. I find that few women look better naked than finely dressed, and I daresay that goes the other way for the fairer gender.)

They seek him here, they seek him there...

127 Kragar  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:04:11am

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

I loved that stuff. And the striped chewing gum with the zebra on the label.

Never cared for those.

128 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:04:47am

re: #117 Fenway_Nation

Over-inflated sense of self-importance, I guess.

Warped egos for sure.

129 traderjoe9  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:04:52am

re: #118 Killian Bundy

You know, the timing did seem like a coincidence, but I didn't think of that.

/Hamas fears Likud so much that they'd try and influence the election by releasing Shalit, hmmm, interesting concept

I didn't really consider the Hamas aspect of this deal, to be honest. I just know that Livni and Kadima want to win the election next week, and they're prepared to open all crossings and release a thousand prisoners to get Shalit. And if this occurs...I think that Kadima just might overtake Likud.

130 SFGoth  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:05:12am

re: #126 MandyManners

They seek him here, they seek him there...

I do believe that line was the inspiration for Judas Priest's song "Hell Bent for Leather":
Seek him here, seek him on the highway
Never knowing when he'll appear...

131 Unakite  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:05:35am

re: #107 MandyManners

How many do you need for a baseball team?

You only need nine, plus a couple of relief pitchers. She has more than enough.

132 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:05:46am

re: #124 BakaRanger
Think can still buy the cinnamon toothpicks at walmart. I much perfered buying a box of normal toothpicks and making my own with cinnamon oil bought at the drug store down the street. 1 1.5 oz bottle I think it was I used to buy at once would knock out about 250-500 toothpicks super cinnamonny.

133 tommygum  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:06:04am

Bazooka bubblegum!

134 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:06:12am

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist
Zebra gum was way to sweet.

135 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:06:28am

re: #125 Rustler

Nah it'll be redirected into his nice honorable Civilian defense force.

That, I think, will not go through.

136 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:06:56am

re: #98 Attaboid

Not my favorite song /artist. ;)

Anyway it's Feb 7 here. I'll google those birthdates.

Here's a few of my favorite Feb. 7th birthdays:

Cerina Vincent turns 30 today. She's best known as "Areola", the naked exchange student in "Not Another Teen Movie".

Chris Rock is 44. (44? Good lord! How about just being 22 twice?)

Emo Philips is 53.

Miguel Ferrer is 54.

Oh, and somebody needs to punk Ashton Kutcher today, on his 31st birthday.

137 jcm  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:07:00am

Okay Lizard test the last unit. Wrapping up a 16 hour day.
Heading home and some sleep.

Take care Honcos!

138 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:07:00am

re: #132 Rustler

Thanks for the heads-up. I hope that they are as good as I remember them.

139 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:07:26am

re: #135 MandyManners

That, I think, will not go through.

Moon bats with guns and night sticks...shudder!

140 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:07:35am

re: #122 Attaboid

Great tip. Thanks.

It's the least I can do after the Feb. 6th birthday to which I linked.
;)

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:07:44am

re: #134 Rustler

Zebra gum was way to sweet.

Really? I hardly remember the taste, just the stripes, and that powdery texture when you unwrapped the pieces. My grandma would buy it for me when I was very small.

142 tommygum  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:08:07am

James Whitmore passed away.

143 Cheechako  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:08:23am

re: #83 Attaboid

What is #10 Butch wax?

I'm proud to admit I got a 25! And, as my gradnma used to say, I'm as old as my little finger. So far I've got everyone beat.

Way back in time all the guys wore butch hair cuts. You might call them crew cuts today. Butch wax was a jell that you put on the front hair to keep it standing straight up.

144 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:08:33am

re: #125 Rustler

Nah it'll be redirected into his nice honorable Civilian defense force.


Who needs a seperate budget for a propaganda mouthpiece when the 0bama Admin has the MSM at their beck and call!? Think of the money that can be saved...

145 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:08:44am

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist That powder was High fructose Corn syrup.

146 Racer X  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:09:15am

Greanpeace

Out.

147 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:09:19am

re: #142 tommygum

James Whitmore passed away.

I saw that. Bless his heart he was a WWII Marine.

148 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:09:40am

re: #136 gmsc

Oh, and somebody needs to punk Ashton Kutcher today, on his 31st birthday.

I pledge...

/cue sappy, drippy music...

149 tommygum  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:10:05am

re: #146 Racer X

Barney Frank?

150 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:10:07am

re: #145 Rustler

That powder was High fructose Corn syrup.

;) Wheee!

(But the ads say it's made from corn, and is fine in moderation!)

151 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:10:32am

re: #146 Racer X

LOL!

152 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:10:52am

re: #136 gmsc
One of my Fave Family guy episodes had Ashton Kutcher. Peter made a new reality tv show called tomahawked and whacks ashton with one.

153 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:10:58am

California Medical Board probes octuplet birth

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

154 tommygum  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:10:58am

re: #147 Pvt Bin Jammin

I saw that. Bless his heart he was a WWII Marine.

Didn't know that. Semper fi, Mr. Whitmore.

155 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:11:42am

re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah Zebra was made initially to help try and counter diabetes by using an alternate sweetener if I remember right.

156 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:12:21am

re: #153 Dustyvet
Good maybe the Doc will lose his license to practice medicine in the US or Cali at least.

157 tommygum  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:13:00am

re: #156 Rustler

Good maybe the Doc will lose his license to practice medicine in the US or Cali at least.

At the very least.

158 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:13:23am

The squirrels have quit romping on the roof so I tihnk it's time to get back to bed. Good nght, Lizards.

159 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:13:45am

On Feb. 7th, . . .

. . . 1964, 3,000 people crowded JFK airport to see the Beatles as they landed for their first US tour.

. . . 1990, The Central Committee of the Soviet Communist Party agrees to give up its monopoly on power, and the collapse of the Soviet Union begins.

. . . 1962, The United States bans all Cuban imports and exports.

. . . 1795, the 11th Amendment to the US Constitution was ratified (This Amendment deals with each State's sovereign immunity from being sued in federal court by someone of another state or country.)

160 ornery elephant  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:13:54am

re: #129 traderjoe9

Howdy TJ, how ya been?

161 mattm  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:14:23am

With all of the "stimlus" talk recently, just thin yesterday Feb. 6th would have been Ronald Regans 98th Birthday if he were alive today.

162 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:14:37am

re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist

;) Wheee!

(But the ads say it's made from corn, and is fine in moderation!)

...and nutrionally the same as sugar.

163 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:14:52am

re: #154 tommygum

They played it up on the local news. At least once in awhile the msm does something right.

164 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:15:03am

OK, I gotta get up and teach small children in the morning. Should get sleep.

Buenas noches, honcos.

165 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:15:38am

re: #158 MandyManners

The squirrels have quit romping on the roof so I tihnk it's time to get back to bed. Good nght, Lizards.

Commando Squirrels...:)

166 traderjoe9  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:16:04am

re: #160 ornery elephant

Howdy TJ, how ya been?

I've been doing well. One more week until winter break...just...surviving until then.

How about you?

167 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:16:49am

re: #158 MandyManners

Night, Mandy. I get those wild squirrels too but most of the time it's in the morning for me.

It's almost springtime, must be mating season. LOL

168 ornery elephant  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:16:56am

re: #166 traderjoe9

I've been doing well. One more week until winter break...just...surviving until then.

How about you?

Doing real good here...actually saw some signs that the 11 months of winter may be ending ! hahaha

169 traderjoe9  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:19:27am

re: #168 ornery elephant

Doing real good here...actually saw some signs that the 11 months of winter may be ending ! hahaha

lol!

Well...I've got to get up and do absolutely nothing tomorrow. Better get some sleep.

Good night!

170 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:19:27am

re: #165 Dustyvet

Commando Squirrels...:)

They aren't wearing their squirrel undies?

Oh, and if you don't think squirrels need undies, I bet these squirrels wished they had some when this was happening! (Moral: The most dangerous place to be in the the entire world is between a mother and her child!)

171 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:22:27am

Ok now Casey Anthony and her attorney both need to be strung up from the nearest rafters. They are auctioning Photos of Caylee to pay for legal defense.

172 Bob Dillon  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:24:28am

re: #14 Dustyvet

all 25

Here's one for you.

A self-important college freshman attending a recent basketball game
took it upon himself to explain to a senior citizen sitting next to him why it was impossible for the older generation to understand his generation.

'You grew up in a different world, actually an almost primitive one', the student said, loud enough for many of those nearby to hear. 'The young people of today grew up
with television, jet planes, space travel, man walking on the moon. Our space probes have visited Mars. We have nuclear energy, ships and electric and hydrogen cars, cell phones , computers with light-speed processing...and more.'

After a brief silence, the senior citizen responded as follows:

'You're right, son. We didn't have those things when we were young... so we invented them.

Now, you arrogant little shit, what are you doing for the next generation?'

The applause was amazing!

173 Attaboid  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:24:59am

re: #140 gmsc

Emo Phillips. UGH.

174 tommygum  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:26:26am

That squeaky voice. Double UGH.

175 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:26:50am

re: #172 Bobibutu

Now, you arrogant little shit, what are you doing for the next generation?

h0pe! change!

176 Attaboid  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:26:51am

re: #143 Cheechako

OK. I do remeber that! Didn't know the name.

177 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:27:13am

Great Comment on our “Unregulated Free Market”

Michael Smith comments over at EconTalk on a comment by one Mark K (via Cafe Hayek)

The notion that we have an “unregulated free market” is false.

If we had an unregulated free market, the organizations and individuals that made stupid investment decisions — those “jokers on Wall Street” — would now be bankrupt, to be replaced by more competent organizations and managers. Instead, under the current system, they are “bailed out” — at your expense — and allowed to continue operating.

If we had an unregulated free market, the investment rating agencies that rated securities containing subprime loans as “AAA” would be disgraced, bankrupt and out of business — no one on earth would deal with them any longer — they wouldn’t be able to pay people to use their services. Instead, under our current system, not only are all those rating services still in business, the S.E.C. requires that all issuers of investments use those rating agencies.

If we had an unregulated free market, no one would be forcing bankers to make riskier loans than they wish to, as is currently done by legislation such as the Community Reinvestment Act and threats of lawsuits from organizations like ACORN and from the Federal Government‘s Justice Department (Clinton‘s DOJ filed 13 major lawsuits against banks for failure to lend to “minorities“).

If we had an unregulated free market, there would be no central banking entity in charge of a fiat money supply with the ability to:

a) Make vast amounts of credit available at below-market interest rates.

b) Follow such a persistent policy of inflation as to convince virtually everyone in the country that purchasing a house is “a good investment”.

c) Eliminate ( or at least significantly reduce) risk aversion by guaranteeing bankers that they (the Fed) will always be there as “lender of last resort”.

d) Condone and make possible a preposterously over-leveraged fractional reserve banking system under which banks currently hold total reserves of only about 4% and are thus extremely vulnerable to any sort of a run or loss of confidence in the bank.

If we had an unregulated free market there would be no quasi-government entities like Fannie and Freddie and the FHA to insure that trillions of dollars of that cheap credit made possible by the Fed was directed into the residential housing market, producing an unsustainable boom in housing construction, which, when it ends, leads inevitably into an economic bust.

If we had an unregulated free market, the Federal Government would not now be contemplating looting the American taxpayers of another trillion dollars or so to pay off various special interests that helped the latest collection of looters get into power.

We don’t have an unregulated free market. We have a “mixed economy”, with a few elements of capitalism struggling under the weight of literally thousands of pages of rules and regulations and dozens of government agencies interfering in virtually every aspect of our economic lives.

And under this set-up, it is you, the “little guy”, the individual who doesn’t have a powerful lobby in Washington to get the rules bent in your favor — you, who cannot command an audience with Congress to beg for your personal bailout — you, who can do nothing as government uses your funds to save the incompetent and the dishonest from the consequences of their own actions — it is you who gets screwed.

We don’t have an unregulated free market; we have an out-of-control government intent on looting us blind.

178 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:29:09am

re: #171 Rustler
Here is linky to the story.

179 sngnsgt  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:29:37am

re: #172 Bobibutu

Bravo!

180 Bob Dillon  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:32:06am

re: #175 Fenway_Nation

h0pe! change!

Ha!

181 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:32:48am
183 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:37:31am

re: #11 Emperor Norton

Somebody robbed the Glendale train, and Madoff with the gold.

i regret that i only have one upding for a NRPS pun...

maybe Henry will give you another

184 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:38:00am

Can't sleep. You guys are talking about commando squirrels?

185 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:40:33am

re: #126 MandyManners

They seek him here, they seek him there...

he's dedicated follower of fashion.

either that, or Jack the idiot dunce. %-)

/white smoke

186 chouch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:42:25am

i could use some smoke before bed

187 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:45:06am

re: #186 chouch Green smoke at ya.

188 songbird  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:45:13am

re: #96 Rustler

She will be able to pay for the kids once she works out the 3 million or so deal she has in the works for her story. No clue WTF anyone would want with the story of a woman who just keeps having babies cause she doesn't want to be alone like she was as an only child. I would however really like to find out who the Doctor was that implanted 6 embryoes to yield 8 babies. Also wtf was he thinking implanting embryoes into an unemployed unmarried mother of 6 recieving welfare.

Maybe he's the one who should be paying child support.

189 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:50:13am

re: #186 chouch

i could use some smoke before bed

will 2 WP's wrapped to the front of a Claymore do for ya?

at least until we can get the fire mission transmitted, that is.

/white smoke

190 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:51:39am

Ping!

Mel Lono, you have message traffic.

191 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:51:47am

re: #189 redc1c4
Haha red he's already green lit.

192 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:53:04am

re: #191 Rustler

Haha red he's already green lit.

Damn my Huey won't start...

193 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:53:44am

re: #192 Dustyvet
Try getting a Helo from the last couple decades :P

194 winston06  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:57:48am

good night lads

195 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:57:58am

re: #191 Rustler

Haha red he's already green lit.

that's why i just went for effect... %-)

196 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:58:15am

re: #194 winston06
Night Winston.

197 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:58:58am

re: #194 winston06

good night lads

forgotten, but not gone, i see.

198 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 12:59:25am

re: #193 Rustler

Try getting a Helo from the last couple decades :P

199 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:00:21am

Two guys are bungee jumping one day. The first guy says to the second, "You know, we could make a lot of money running our own bungee jumping service in Mexico."

The second guy thinks this is a great idea, so the two of them pool their money and buy everything they'll need - a tower, an elastic cord, insurance, etc.

They travel to Mexico and begin to set up on the square. As they are constructing the tower, a crowd begins to assemble. Slowly, more and more people gather to watch them at work.

The first guy jumps to test the equipment. He bounces at the end of the cord, but when he comes back up, the second guy notices that he has a few cuts and scratches. Unfortunately, the second guy isn't able catch him, he falls again, bounces and comes back up again.

This time, he is bruised and bleeding. Again, the second guy misses him. The first guy falls again and bounces back up. This time, he comes back and he's got a couple of broken bones and is almost unconscious.

Luckily, the second guy finally catches him this time and says, "What happened? Was the cord too long?"

The first guy says, "No, the cord was fine. Hey, what the heck is a 'pinata'?"

200 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:01:20am

There are 20 things that you should never say to a cop:

20. I can't reach my license unless you hold my beer.

19. Sorry officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.

18. Hey! Aren't you the guy from the village people?

17. Hey, you must have been doing 125 MPH to keep up with me! Good job.

16. I thought you had to be in relatively good physical shape to be a police officer.

15. I was going to be a cop, but I decided to finish high school instead.

14. No donut for you!

13. You're not going to check the trunk, are you?

12. Gee, that gut sure doesn't inspire confidence.

11. Hey! Didn't I see you on 'Cops'?

10. Is it true that people become cops because they cannot get a job at McDonalds?

9. I pay your salary, dammit!

8. So uh, you on the take or what?

7. Gee officer, that's terrific. The last officer only gave me a warning.

6. Do you know why you pulled me over? Okay, just so one of us does.

5. I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there is no other car around. That's how far behind them I am!

4. What do you mean have I been drinking? You're the trained specialist.

3. Well, when I reached down to pick up my bag of heroin, my gun fell off of my lap and got lodged between the brake and the gas pedal, forcing me to speed out of control.

2. Hey, is that a 9mm? That's nothing compared to this 44 magnum.

1. Hey, can you give me another one of those full body cavity searches?

201 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:02:54am

An elderly retired gentleman had had severe hearing problems for some time.

He went to the doctor and the doctor was able to have him fitted for a set of hearing aids that allowed the man to hear better than he had ever heard before.

One month later, the elderly man went back again to the doctor. The doctor said, "Your hearing is perfect. Your family must be really pleased that you can hear again."

The gentleman said, "Oh, I haven't told my family yet. I just sit around and listen to the conversations. I've changed my will three times!"

202 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:03:33am

Two girlfriends were speeding down the highway at well over a 100 miles per hour.
"Hey," asked the brunette at the wheel, "see any cops following us?"
The blonde turned around for a long look. "As a matter of fact, I do."
"Oh, NOOO!" yelled the brunette. "Are his flashers on?"
The blonde turned around again. "Yup...nope...yup...nope...yup..."

203 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:05:15am

LAPD

The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), The FBI, and the CIA are all trying to prove that they are the best at apprehending criminals. The President decides to give them a test. He releases a rabbit into a forest and each of them has to catch it.

The CIA goes in.
They place animal informants throughout the forest.
They question all plant and mineral witnesses.
After three months of extensive investigations they conclude that rabbits do not exist.

The FBI goes in.
After two weeks with no leads they burn the forest, killing everything in it, including the rabbit, and they make no apologies.
The rabbit had it coming.

The LAPD goes in.
They come out two hours later with a badly beaten bear.
The bear is yelling: "Okay! Okay! I'm a rabbit! I'm a rabbit!"

204 hazzyday  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:05:46am

re: #92 BakaRanger

What is #10 Butch wax?

Does anyone remember those orange edible wax whistles?

Does anyone remember Hot Cinnamon Toothpicks?

Both. There used to be this beer like pop we would shake and make it explode.

205 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:06:50am

What do you call a blond skeleton in the closet?

The 1978 Hide and Go Seeker contest winner.

206 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:07:35am

Is Casey Anthony Smarter than she looks on the news? Thats just an odd set of circumstances. The 2 homes whose yards border the place Caylee's body was found are owned by a Gonzalez family and their neighbors Zenaida Almodovar. Then there was her insistance Caylee was close to home the location was only about 1/2 mile from the Anthony home.

207 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:07:57am

A plane was taking off from Kennedy Airport. After it reached a comfortable cruising altitude, the captain made an announcement over the intercom.

"Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. Welcome to Flight 293, nonstop from New York to Los Angeles. The weather ahead is good and therefore we should have a smooth and uneventful flight. Now, please sit back and relax... Oh my god!"

The passengers sat in silence, waiting for terrible news.

Then, the captain came back on the intercom and said "Ladies and Gentlemen, I am so sorry if I scared you earlier, but while I was talking, the flight- attendant brought me a cup of coffee and spilled the hot coffee in my lap. You should see the front of my pants!"

A passenger in Coach said, "That's nothing. You should see the back of mine!"

208 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:08:16am

A policeman pulls a man over for speeding and asks him to get out of the car.
After looking the man over he says, "Sir, I couldn't help but notice your eyes are bloodshot. Have you been drinking?"
The man gets really indignant and says, "Officer, I couldn't help but notice your eyes are glazed. Have you been eating doughnuts?"

209 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:11:37am

Good Morning Lizards!
Funny jokes!

210 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:13:46am

One morning, a woman and her baby were taking a bus. As she entered the bus the driver says "Wow, that is one ugly baby."

The woman was deeply hurt. She continued to get on to the bus and found a seat next to an elderly man. The man asked her, "What's wrong? You look mad."

She replied, "I am. That bus driver just insulted me."

"You shouldn't take that from him," the man replied. "He's a public worker and should give you respect. If I was you I would take his badge number and report him."

"You're right sir, I think I will report him."

The elderly man says, "You go on up there and get his badge number. I'll hold your monkey for you."

211 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:14:03am

re: #209 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
Funny jokes!

Hey 2H.

212 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:16:40am

A tough U.S. Marine sergeant got word that the father of one of his men had passed away. At roll call he snapped, "Hey, Smith, your father died!" The Marine fainted on the spot.

A week later the sister of another Marine died, and the sergeant once again called his men together. "Jones," he yelled out, "your sister died last night!" The Marine burst into tears.

Finally, word got back to the general about the sergeant's insensitivity, and he was called on the carpet and told to be less direct and gruff when one of his men suffered a tragedy.

A week later the sergeant was notified that Private Miller had just lost his mother.

Remembering what the general had said, he lined up his troop and ordered "Everyone whose mother is alive, please take one step forward - not so fast, Miller!"

213 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:17:02am

re: #210 Erik The Red

One morning, a woman and her baby were taking a bus. As she entered the bus the driver says "Wow, that is one ugly baby."

The woman was deeply hurt. She continued to get on to the bus and found a seat next to an elderly man. The man asked her, "What's wrong? You look mad."

She replied, "I am. That bus driver just insulted me."

"You shouldn't take that from him," the man replied. "He's a public worker and should give you respect. If I was you I would take his badge number and report him."

"You're right sir, I think I will report him."

The elderly man says, "You go on up there and get his badge number. I'll hold your monkey for you."

*snort*

214 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:17:05am

re: #211 Erik The Red

Hey 2H.

Hey Eric..How are you? I'm reviewing last night's Basketball games on TIVO.

215 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:18:01am

re: #203 Dustyvet

bite me.

the LAPD polices more with less than any other major city PD, AFAIK.

i have many bones to pick, but with what they have, they get'r done.

/REAL thin blue line

216 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:19:17am

There is No Santa
OPINION EDITORIAL by Walter E. Williams

You should definitely read the whole thing, but here, in my opinion, is the money quote:

Imagine you see a person at work taking buckets of water from the deep end of a swimming pool and dumping them into the shallow end in an attempt to make it deeper. You would deem him stupid. That scenario is equivalent to what Congress and the new president proposes for the economy.

217 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:19:36am

A man takes the day off work and decides to go out golfing. He is on the second hole when he notices a frog sitting next to the green.

He thinks nothing of it and is about to shoot when he hears, "Ribbit. 9 Iron."

The man looks around and doesn't see anyone.

"Ribbit. 9 Iron."

He looks at the frog and decides to prove the frog wrong, puts his other club away, and grabs a 9 iron. Boom! he hits it 10 inches from the cup. He is shocked.

He says to the frog, "Wow, that's amazing! You must be a lucky frog, eh?"

The frog replies, "Ribbit. Lucky frog."

The man decides to take the frog with him to the next hole.

"What do you think frog?" the man asks.

"Ribbit. 3 wood."

The guy takes out a 3 wood and Boom! Hole in one. The man is befuddled and doesn't know what to say. By the end of the day, the man has golfed the best game of golf in his life and asks the frog, "OK where to next?"

The frog replies, "Ribbit. Las Vegas."

They go to Las Vegas and the guy says, "Okay frog, now what?"

The frog says, "Ribbit. Roulette."

Upon approaching the roulette table, the man asks, "What do you think I should bet?"

The frog replies, "Ribbit. $3000, black 6."

Now, this is a million-to-one shot to win, but considering the golf game, the man figures what the heck. Boom! Tons of cash comes sliding back

across the table.

The man takes his winnings and buys the best room

in the hotel. He sits the frog down and says, "Frog, I don't know how to repay you.

You've won me all this money and I am forever grateful."

The frog replies, "Ribbit, Kiss Me."

The man is stunned, but he does, since after all the frog did for him he deserves it. With a kiss, the frog turns into a gorgeous young woman.

"And that, I swear, is how that woman ended up in my room."

218 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:22:08am

re: #215 redc1c4

bite me.

the LAPD polices more with less than any other major city PD, AFAIK.

i have many bones to pick, but with what they have, they get'r done.

/REAL thin blue line

It's a joke, live with it lad...

219 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:26:42am

re: #218 Dustyvet

It's a joke, live with it lad...

If you can't make fun of the LAPD..who can you make fun of?

220 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:27:55am

On a Trans-Atlantic flight, a plane passes through a severe storm. The turbulence is awful, and things go from bad to worse when one wing is struck by lightning.

One woman in particular loses it. Screaming,she stands up in the front of the plane. "I'm too young to die!" she wails. Then she yells, "Well, if I'm going to die, I want my last minutes on earth to be memorable! No one has ever made me really feel like a woman! Well I've had it! Is there ANYONE on this plane who can make me feel like a WOMAN?"

For a moment there is silence. everyone has forgotten their own peril, and they all stare, riveted, at the desperate woman in the front of the plane. Then, a man stands up in the rear of the plane. "I can make you feel like a woman," he says. This tall, tanned and built guy with jet black eyes starts to walk slowly up the aisle, unbuttoning his shirt one button at a time.

No one moves. As this man approaches, the woman begins to get excited. He removes his shirt. Muscles ripple across his chest as he reaches her, and extends the arm holding his shirt to the trembling woman, and whispers: "Iron this."

221 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:27:58am

re: #219 HoosierHoops

If you can't make fun of the LAPD..who can you make fun of?

I can name more than 536 people off the top of my head . . .

222 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:28:08am

re: #219 HoosierHoops
Not the president thats for sure.

223 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:28:35am

re: #219 HoosierHoops

If you can't make fun of the LAPD..who can you make fun of?

It's a great department, it's had it's problems. The joke is more of a tribute then an insult.

224 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:28:57am

Honey," said this husband to his wife, "I invited a friend home for supper."

"What? Are you crazy? The house is a mess, I didn't go shopping, all the dishes are dirty, and I don't feel like cooking fancy meal!"

"I know all that."

"Then why did you invite a friend for supper?"

"Because the poor fool's thinking about getting married."

225 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:29:25am

re: #222 Rustler

Not the president thats for sure.

oh...wait a wee bit...:)

226 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:29:28am

re: #224 Erik The Red
The man was never seen from again.

227 Walahi  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:30:14am

Education is going to be 'fair' in the UK. I live here and thinking about having children soon. Dunno if I like this all that much.

I am sure on your side Obama will deliver the final crushing blow to the schooling system as well.

228 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:30:21am

re: #219 HoosierHoops

If you can't make fun of the LAPD..who can you make fun of?

how about the NYPD?

somewhere near 4 times the cops, and as much or more crime...

y'all wanna mock someone, try the CHP.

Can't
Handle
Policew*rk

229 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:30:34am

Funniest thing about Obama Administration is during Bush Dissent was patriotic, During Obama's Reign Dissent is almost treason.

230 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:32:03am

re: #223 Dustyvet

It's a great department, it's had it's problems. The joke is more of a tribute then an insult.

and yet, when i call them like they tell me i'm supposed to, they want we mo go out and clear the situation before they dispatch a car...

231 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:33:24am

An engineer dies and goes to heaven. However, when St. Peter meets him at the gate he says, "Wait a second! You're in the wrong place! Beat it!"

So, the engineers goes down to Hell, and gets settled in. He soon becomes dissatisfied with conditions there, and begins to make improvements. Before long, there's running water, flush toilets, escalators, and even air conditioning! The engineer is a pretty popular guy.

One day God calls Satan on the telephone and says with a sneer, "So, how's it going down there?"

Satan replies, "Hey, things are going great. We've got air conditioning and flush toilets and escalators, and there's no telling what this engineer is going to come up with next."

God replies, "What! You've got an engineer? That's a mistake - he should never have gotten down there. Send him up right away!"

Satan says, "No way! I like having an engineer on the staff, and I'm keeping him."

God says, "Send him back up here or I'll sue!"

"Oh, yeah?" the Devil replies. "Where are you going to get a lawyer?!"

232 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:33:56am

re: #229 Rustler

Funniest thing about Obama Administration is during Bush Dissent was patriotic, During Obama's Reign Dissent is almost treason.

Dissent is especially patriotic when it's clear the president isn't.
-redc1c4

opensource: just give me credit

233 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:34:03am

re: #229 Rustler

Funniest thing about Obama Administration is during Bush Dissent was patriotic, During Obama's Reign Dissent is almost treason.

re: #230 redc1c4

and yet, when i call them like they tell me i'm supposed to, they want we mo go out and clear the situation before they dispatch a car...

Let's just drop it and move on.

234 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:34:41am

re: #228 redc1c4

how about the NYPD?

somewhere near 4 times the cops, and as much or more crime...

y'all wanna mock someone, try the CHP.

Can't
Handle
Policew*rk


Hey you..hope today finds you well. I grew up in NorCal.. I've spent my entire life making fun of SoCal.. and they make jokes about us hicks.
It's nothing personal and all done in fun..Nobody mocked policemen..
It was just a joke friend.

235 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:35:27am

A young boy, about eight years old, was at the store picking out a large box of laundry detergent. The grocer walked over and, trying to be friendly, asked the boy if he had a lot of laundry to do.

"Oh, no laundry," the boy said. "I'm going to wash my dog."

"But you shouldn't use this to wash your dog. It's very powerful and if you wash your dog in this, he'll get sick. In fact, it might even kill him."

But the boy was not stopped by this and carried the detergent to the counter and paid for it, even as the grocer still tried to talk him out of washing his dog.

About a week later the boy was back in the store doing some shopping. The grocer asked the boy how his dog was doing.

"Oh, he died," the boy said.

The grocer said, "I tried to tell you not to use that detergent on your dog."

"Well," the boy replied, "I don't think it was the detergent that killed him."

"Oh I'm sorry. How did he die?"

"I think it was the spin cycle."

236 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:36:09am

re: #234 HoosierHoops

Hey you..hope today finds you well. I grew up in NorCal.. I've spent my entire life making fun of SoCal.. and they make jokes about us hicks.
It's nothing personal and all done in fun..Nobody mocked policemen..
It was just a joke friend.

That anything like Minnesota-Iowa jokes...:)

237 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:36:49am

for the impatient or chronologically challenged, here's some fruitcup:--->

tell HRH, and i'll see y'all on the flip flop.

hasta' yall... !

l8r.

238 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:37:25am

re: #237 redc1c4

for the impatient or chronologically challenged, here's some fruitcup:--->

tell HRH, and i'll see y'all on the flip flop.

hasta' yall... !

l8r.

Whatever.

239 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:38:46am

This couple goes to an agricultural show way out in the countryside a fine Sunday afternoon, & are watching the auctioning off of bulls.
The guy selling the bulls announces the first bull to be auctioned off: "A fine specimen, this bull reproduced 60 times last year."

The wife nudges her husband in the ribs, & comments, "See! That was more than 5 times a month!"

The second bull is to be sold: "Another fine specimen, this wonder reproduced 120 times last year."

Again the wife bugs her husband, "Hey, that's some 10 times a month. What do YOU say to that?!"

Her husband is getting really annoyed with this comparison.

The third bull is up for sale: "And this extraordinary specimen reproduced 365 times last year!"

The wife slaps her husband on the arm and yells, "That's once a day, every day of the year! How about YOU?!"

The husband was pretty irritated by now, & yells back, "Sure, once a day! But ask the auctioneer if they were all with the same cow!"

240 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:39:36am

re: #237 redc1c4

What's biting your ass tonight red?

241 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:40:16am

re: #239 Erik The Red

How dare you make fun of cows!

242 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:41:47am

INSTRUCTIONS FOR GIVING YOUR CAT A PILL

1. Pick cat up and cradle it in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand. As cat opens mouth, pop pill into mouth. Allow cat to close mouth and swallow.

2. Retrieve pill from floor and cat from behind sofa. Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process.

3. Retrieve cat from bedroom, and throw soggy pill away. Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm holding rear paws tightly with lef hand. Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right forefinger. Hold mouth shut for a count of 10.

4. Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of wardrobe. Call spouse from garden.

5. Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, holding front and rear paws. Ignore low growls emitted by cat. Get spouse to hold cat's head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth. Drop pill down ruler and rub cat's throat vigorously.

6. Retrieve cat from curtain rail, get another pill from foil wrap. Make note to buy new ruler and repair curtains. Carefully sweep shattered figurines from hearth and set to one side for gluing later.

7. Wrap cat in large towel and get spouse to lie on cat with its head just visible from below spouse's armpit. Put pill in end of drinking straw, force cat's mouth open with pencil and blow down drinking straw.

8. Check label to make sure pill not harmful to humans, drink glass of water to take taste away. Apply band-aid to spouse's forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap.

9. Retrieve cat from neighbor's shed. Get another pill. Place cat in cupboard and close door onto neck to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert spoon. Flick pill down throat with elastic band.

10. Fetch screwdriver from garage and put door back on hinges. Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus shot. Throw T-shirt away and fetch new one from bedroom.

11. Ring fire brigade to retrieve cat from tree across the road. Apologize to neighbor who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid cat. Take last pill from foil wrap.

12. Tie cat's front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table. Find heavy duty pruning gloves from shed. Force cat's mouth open with small spanner. Push pill into mouth followed by large piece of fillet steak. Hold head vertically and pour 1/2 pint of water down throat to wash pill down.

13. Get spouse to drive you to emergency room; sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearm and removes pill remnants from right eye. Stop by furniture shop on way home to order new table.

14. Arrange for vet to make a housecall.

243 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:42:33am

re: #241 HoosierHoops

How dare you make fun of cows!

I going to tip cows...here's $5.00 for Bossy, Hilda, Goldie...

244 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:45:34am

re: #240 Erik The Red

What's biting your ass tonight red?

nada...text is a difficult medium to express intent with.

245 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:47:32am

re: #233 Dustyvet

Let's just drop it and move on.

i was referring to issues i've had with LAPD where they've told me to find out if they needed to really come out and see if there was an issue...

kinda defeats the porpoise of calling them in my book.

/no slag at you.

246 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:48:14am

In the middle of the night, a man and his wife hear noises coming from their backyard. Peeking through the blinds, they see a burglar in the process of taking off the lock from their backyard shed.

They naturally call 911 and explain they're being robbed right now! The 911 operator asks if anyone has been hurt or injured. The husband replies that no one has been hurt, but to please send someone as soon as possible so that the burglar can be caught in the act and arrested.

The operator states that they don't have any cars available to take the car, but they'll send someone over as soon as they possibly can.

Disparaged, the husband hangs up.

Almost immediately, he gets an idea. He waits 1 more minute, then calls 911 again.

He says to the operator, "Hello? I'm the party who just called about the robbery in my backyard. You don't have to worry about sending the police over anymore. I shot the robber." The husband then hangs up.

In less than 90 seconds, 2 police cars pull up, and the husband and wife point to the backyard. As the cops get back there, they see the uninjured robber coming out of the shed with his arms full of stolen goods.

The policeman angrily looks at the husband and says, "I thought you said you shot the robber!"

The husband matter-of-factly replies, "I thought you said you didn't have anybody available."

247 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:48:42am

Mugshot Fail


248 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:49:17am

re: #234 HoosierHoops

Hey you..hope today finds you well. I grew up in NorCal.. I've spent my entire life making fun of SoCal.. and they make jokes about us hicks.
It's nothing personal and all done in fun..Nobody mocked policemen..
It was just a joke friend.

no heartburn here, didn't mean to cause any elsewhere...

even in Hickville. %-)

/white smoke

249 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:49:26am

re: #247 Dustyvet

Mugshot Fail

[Video]

Somebody get a head count on the Hamsters...

250 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:50:48am

re: #245 redc1c4

i was referring to issues i've had with LAPD where they've told me to find out if they needed to really come out and see if there was an issue...

kinda defeats the porpoise of calling them in my book.

/no slag at you.

None taken.

251 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:51:36am

re: #238 Dustyvet

Whatever.

the alternative fruitcup is a fairly new LNDT tradition, but it even has it's own Lolcat...

even LoL partakes, on occasion.

and now:

hasta, y'all: take 2.

L8r!

252 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:55:09am

Yeah. Today might be a good day for it. :-/

253 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:55:24am

re: #251 redc1c4

the alternative fruitcup is a fairly new LNDT tradition, but it even has it's own Lolcat...

red brand fruitcup

254 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:56:31am

Coca-Cola Fail

Wait for it!

255 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:56:34am

re: #245 redc1c4

i was referring to issues i've had with LAPD where they've told me to find out if they needed to really come out and see if there was an issue...

kinda defeats the porpoise of calling them in my book.

/no slag at you.

oh..misunderstood your intent and post..In the 80's we were living just outside of napa when undercover sheriffs went to bust some dealers down the street..they walked up to a car trying to leave the driveway. The cop on the passenger side went to tap the window with his gun but the window was open and he dropped his gun in the car. He yelled 'Gun!' in panic. The other Sheriff shot both men dead..
They were at the wrong address!
That's not the worst story i know..Just thought I'd warm you up to the real fucked up stories..People make mistakes

256 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:58:53am

re: #252 littleoldlady

Yeah. Today might be a good day for it. :-/

((Lady))...waving...:)

257 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:59:11am

I've been waiting for Sharmuta and littleoldlady to arrive, as I've been saving a special joke.

I'll tell it over some fruitcup.

258 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 1:59:52am

re: #252 littleoldlady

Yeah. Today might be a good day for it. :-/

Good morning LOL. Hope today finds you well..I'm watching Golden State on Tivo. I miss my Team...Who else would be watching BBall at 5am?
How about a nice cup of Kona this morning?

259 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:00:12am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

260 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:00:26am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Yum! Thanks!

261 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:00:34am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Thanks, {lol}!

262 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:00:59am

Dustyvet! :-)

Hoosier! :-)

gmsc! :-)

Sharmuta! :-)

263 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:01:04am

Now that I'm enjoying my fruitcup, here's what I've been saving:

Shortly after class, an economics student approaches his economics professor and says, "I don't understand this stimulus bill. Can you explain it to me?"

The professor replied, "I don't have any time to explain it at my office, but if you come over to my house on Saturday and help me with my weekend project, I'll be glad to explain it to you." The student agreed.

At the agreed-upon time, the student showed up at the professor's house. The professor stated that the weekend project involved his backyard pool.

They both went out back to the pool, and the professor handed the student a bucket. Demonstrating with his own bucket, the professor said, "First, go over to the deep end, and fill your bucket with as much water as you can." The student did as he was instructed.

The professor then continued, "Follow me over to the shallow end, and then dump all the water from your bucket into it." The student was naturally confused, but did as he was told.

The professor then explained they were going to do this many more times, and began walking back to the deep end of the pool.

The confused student asked, "Excuse me, but why are we doing this?"

The professor matter-of-factly stated that he was trying to make the shallow end much deeper.

The student didn't think the economics professor was serious, but figured that he would find out the real story soon enough.

However, after the 6th trip between the shallow end and the deep end, the student began to become worried that his economics professor had gone mad. The student finally replied, "All we're doing is wasting valuable time and effort on unproductive pursuits. Even worse, when this process is all over, everything will be at the same level it was before, so all you'll really have accomplished is the destruction of what could have been truly productive action!"

The professor put down his bucket and replied with a smile, "Congratulations. You now understand the stimulus bill."

264 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:01:36am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Thank you.. I love fruit! not fruits but fruit.. LOL

265 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:01:53am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

266 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:03:01am

re: #259 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Morning {lol} thanks for fruitcup

267 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:03:13am

re: #263 gmsc

That's pretty good!

268 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:04:49am

re: #263 gmsc

Very good! :-)

/except for the way we have - and will be - printing money to hide the fact that we're up to our necks in debt should make the pool overflow within a few months.
//BAIL OUT!

269 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:05:27am

Erik! :-)

270 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:05:42am

re: #267 Sharmuta

That's pretty good!

Thanks. As you see im #216 post, the basic credit should go to Walter Williams. I just took his idea and turned it into joke form.

Feel free to pass it on to anyone who needs cheering up after all the spendulus news this week! Or anyone else who think will appreciate it.

271 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:05:56am

re: #265 Dustyvet

Very appropriate!

272 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:06:00am

The staff at a local United Way office realized that it had never received a donation from the town's most successful lawyer. The person in charge of contributions called him to persuade him to contribute and said, "Our research shows that out of a yearly income of at least $500,000, you give not a penny to charity. Wouldn't you like to give back to the community in some way?"

The lawyer mulled this over for a moment and replied, "First, Did your research also show that my mother is dying after a long illness, and has medical bills that are several times her annual income?"

Embarrassed, the United Way representative mumbled, "Um... No."

"Or," the lawyer continued, "that my brother, a disabled veteran, is blind and confined to a wheelchair?"

The stricken United Way representative began to stammer out an apology but was interrupted when the lawyer added, "Or that my sister's husband died in a traffic accident," the lawyer's voice rising in indignation, "Leaving her pennyless with three children?"

The humiliated United Way representative, completely beaten, said simply, "I had no idea..."

On a roll, the lawyer cut him off once again, "So if I don't give any money to them, why should I give any to you?"

273 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:06:03am

re: #268 littleoldlady

Very good! :-)

/except for the way we have - and will be - printing money to hide the fact that we're up to our necks in debt should make the pool overflow within a few months.
//BAIL OUT!

Hey, no joke is perfect.

274 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:06:06am

Somebody had a post about everybody should get a check for 10 grand for a stimulus packages.
I like the idea...

275 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:06:46am

re: #271 littleoldlady

Very appropriate!

276 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:06:57am

re: #265 Dustyvet

[Video]

OK, that's good! Updinged!

277 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:07:30am

re: #274 HoosierHoops

Somebody had a post about everybody should get a check for 10 grand for a stimulus packages.
I like the idea...

I proposed $200,000 for each American adult citizen.

278 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:08:46am

re: #277 Sharmuta

I like the way you think! :-)

279 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:10:24am
280 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:11:12am

re: #279 Sharmuta

Good grief! How does a kitten break a leg? They're RUBBER!

281 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:11:22am

re: #279 Sharmuta

Saddest little lolcat ever.

Poor little guy...:(

282 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:11:28am

re: #279 Sharmuta

Saddest little lolcat ever.

Awww . . . *shniff*

283 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:12:42am

re: #277 Sharmuta

I proposed $200,000 for each American adult citizen.

70,000 for a yellow Beemer
5,000 for a Samsung 73" flat screen
40,000 for the youngest kid to attend College
Put the rest in the bank..If I still have one..
I like your idea!

284 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:12:43am

Lady you have a Chip and Dale waiting...:)

285 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:13:04am
286 tappin52  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:13:51am

re: #277 Sharmuta

I proposed $200,000 for each American adult citizen.

Yeah! I'm voting for you. Thanks for the fruit LoL.

287 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:15:09am

re: #286 tappin52

You're not going to make me actually hang out with those DC people, are you?

288 tappin52  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:15:53am

Nah, you can have a private jet to leave whenever you want.

289 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:16:04am

re: #283 HoosierHoops

40,000 for the youngest kid to attend College

...for one semester :-/

290 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:16:31am

re: #280 littleoldlady

Good grief! How does a kitten break a leg? They're RUBBER!

I don't know, lol- but that was not a good lolcat. I didn't laugh. Poor little thing!

291 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:16:48am

re: #284 Dustyvet

And Donald! :-)

Just finished watching...THANKS!

292 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:17:47am

tappin! :-)

293 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:18:23am

re: #287 Sharmuta
We will vote you in It's up to you to kick out the bad element Sharm all 536 of em.

294 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:19:54am

A married couple are having marital problems. the go to a couselor. The wife explains to him that there are two things about her husband that bother her: He's always picking his nose and he never lets her get on top when they have sex.
The marraige couselor asks the husband to explain this. The husbands replies that before his father passed away, he gave him two pieces of advice: Always keep your nose clean and never fuck up.

295 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:20:44am

BTW, Sharmuta and littleoldlady, you might want to take a look at my post at #177. (Oh, and avoid my post at #28).
;)

296 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:20:52am

re: #293 Rustler

We will vote you in It's up to you to kick out the bad element Sharm all 536 of em.

You realize electing me to Congress will ruin my reputation.

297 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:22:43am

re: #291 littleoldlady

And Donald! :-)

Just finished watching...THANKS!


welcomes...:)

298 tappin52  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:23:06am

re: #296 Sharmuta

You realize electing me to Congress will ruin my reputation.

Sometimes you gotta take one for the team.

299 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:23:14am

re: #295 gmsc

I'll come back and read them in the later morning. I have a headache and need to lie down now.

But I hope you and all the Lizards have a great day if I don't see you later!

300 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:24:19am

One day 44 was out jogging and he accidentally tripped and fell off a bridge into the cold water below. Three 10 year old boys were playing along the river and saw him fall in so they all jumped in and dragged him to shore.
44 was so thankful that he told each of them, "Boys, you just saved the President of the United States and each of you deserve a reward. You guys just name it."

The first boy says, "I want to go to Disneyland!" "I'll take you there myself in Air Force One!" exclaims 44.

The second boy says, "I want a brand new pair of autographed Nike Air Jordan's." "I'll buy them for you myself," says 44.

"And I want a motorized wheelchair with a stereo built into it with custom speakers" the third boy says.

The president looks at the boy and says, "But, son, you don't look like you are handicapped to me."

The boy replies, "I'm going to be when my dad finds out I saved your ass from drowning!"

301 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:24:33am

re: #299 Sharmuta

I'll come back and read them in the later morning. I have a headache and need to lie down now.

But I hope you and all the Lizards have a great day if I don't see you later!

OK. I hope you feel better soon.

302 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:24:43am

re: #299 Sharmuta

I'll come back and read them in the later morning. I have a headache and need to lie down now.

But I hope you and all the Lizards have a great day if I don't see you later!

Later Sharmuta.

303 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:24:53am

re: #296 Sharmuta
That's why we skip congress and make you Smurf in chief.

304 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:25:02am

re: #295 gmsc

Saved that one!

/oh, and being over 30 is THE LEAST of my problems
//in fact, I'm mighty nostalgic for 40!
///what I can remember of it... ;-)

I know you said "don't look". You know that means I have to look, right? ;-)

305 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:25:06am

re: #299 Sharmuta

I'll come back and read them in the later morning. I have a headache and need to lie down now.

But I hope you and all the Lizards have a great day if I don't see you later!

{ { { {Sharmuta} } } }

306 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:25:54am

'Night, Sharmuta! :-)

/thinking of starting an Ibuprofen business...

307 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:26:09am

I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American.
I am George Carlin.

I like big cars, big hooters, and big paychecks.
I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel governmental functionary with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies.

I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, you'd better do it in English.
I'm not in touch with my feelings and I like it that way.
I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.
I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer.

I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson preaches. And where does he get his money. And why is he always part of the problem and not the solution.

I believe if she has her lips on your willie, it is sex, and it is sex for both of you. This even applies when you are President of the United States.

I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing the bill to put your pansy ass through 4-7 years of college, you haven't begun to be enlightened.

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God or gods, just leave the rest of us out of it. This also applies to sexuality.

I believe it's called the Boy Scouts for a reason.
I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized.
I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for unpopular opinions or actions.
I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July.
My heroes are John Wayne, the Simpsons, and whoever canceled Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman.
I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.
I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about it.

I think global warming is a big lie. Where are all those experts now, when I am freezing my ass through a long winter?

I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty years in the desert after getting chased out of Egypt, I haven't burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you, so shut up already.

I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you're running from them. I also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you are breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation of the world for the next four years.

I think if you are in the passing lane, and not passing, your license should be revoked, and you should be forced to ride the bus until you promise to never delay the rest of us again.

I think beef jerky could quite possibly be the perfect food.
I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement.
I think Dr. Seuss was a genius.
I'm neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise.

If that makes me a BAD American, then yes, I'm a BAD American.
If you too are a BAD American please forward this to everyone you know.

We need our country back!

308 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:27:40am

re: #289 littleoldlady

...for one semester :-/

LOL
40k takes care of it.. 3 of our kids went to college where we did..
They live with either my folks or my wifes folks in California. We get in-state rates by cheating that way. Nikki is finishing up at UC Davis..When our young one is ready in 2 years to attend college..He either goes to Cali or pays for college himself..He is being a pill..wants to go to San Diego State..
How the hell did we have a kid that likes SoCal?

309 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:29:16am

re: #308 HoosierHoops Make him pee in a cup to test for the presence of Koolaid.

310 tappin52  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:30:36am

re: #307 Erik The Red

Amen...

311 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:33:17am

The Geography of a Woman
---
Between the ages of 18 - 21 a woman is like Africa or Australia. She is half discovered, half wild and naturally beautiful with bushland around the fertile deltas.

Between the ages of 21 - 30 a woman is like America or Japan. Completely discovered, very well developed and open to trade especially with countries with cash or cars.

Between the ages of 30 - 35, she is like India or Spain. Very hot, relaxed and convinced of its own beauty.

Between the ages of 35 - 40 a woman is like France or Argentina. She may have been half destroyed during the war but can still be a warm and desirable place to visit.

Between the ages of 40 - 50 she is like Yugoslavia or Iraq. She lost the war and is haunted by past mistakes. Massive reconstruction is now necessary.

Between the ages of 50 - 60 she is like Russia or Canada. Very wide, quiet and the borders are practically unpatrolled but the frigid climate keeps people away.

Between the ages of 60 - 70 a woman is like England or Mongolia. With a glorious and all conquering past but alas no future (a bit like Tony Blair, maybe Blair's a women really).

After 70, they become Albania or Afghanistan. Everyone knows where it is, but no one wants to go there.

The Geography of a Man
---
Between the ages of 15 - 70 a man is like Zimbabwe - ruled by a dick.

312 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:34:47am

Now this is a hoot...:)

313 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:37:02am

re: #307 Erik The Red

I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American.
I am George Carlin.

That's interesting. Ted Nugent wrote the exact same article last week. So did Rush Limbaugh the week before that!

Try Bootyist-monk in a 9/01/2000 Free Republic post as the author, it works better. (If the post doesn't show when it first comes up, try reloading the URL.)

314 tappin52  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:37:06am

After this last election, with all of the illegal ACORN antics, the Al Franken antics and the MSM antics, I vowed to never vote again. There seems to be no honor within the political class, and no consequence to gaming the system. However, I have evolved to a position of voting against ALL incumbents so no one gets too comfy. I know it won't work but I will feel better.

315 Ledger1  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:37:42am

It probably been posted but here is some humor on Obama’s dirty Appointees by Iowahawk:

WASHINGTON - U.S. Energy Secretary Stephen Chu announced his resignation this morning amid new reports that Alameda County workers had unearthed more than a dozen additional dead hobo bodies at his former home in Berkeley, California… "It was an honest mistake on Dr. Chu's part," said the President. "The section of the screening questionnaire about dead hobos has been confusing for a lot of nominees. In his defense it only specifies 'basement/crawl space/storage shed,' so I can somewhat understand why he didn't mention the ones discovered by the backhoe yesterday.

The Chu hobo kerfuffle was the latest in a week-long series of Obama administration personnel imbroglis that have led to 36 White House resignations. Former HHS Secretary Tom Daschle and Chief Performance Officer Nancy Killefer saw their tenures cut short over tax issues, which continue to dog Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. Geithner is also dogged over dogs, after his failure to report over $14,000 in income from his backyard pitbull fight business. An earlier federal grand jury probe over an alleged 12-state outlaw motorcycle gang methamphetamine network forced Commerce Secretary designate Bill Richardson to resign before Mr.Obama's inauguration. Labor Secretary Hilda Solis faces continued scrutiny over late taxes, lobbying, and involvement in a Tijuana car theft ring, while National Security advisor Samantha Power has received GOP criticism over her 2006 volunteer work as a sniper for the Taliban. Her boss, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, has yet to deliver a promised 'full explanation' after police discovered 11 Laotian prostitutes caged in the garage of her Chappaqua NY home. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack faces increasing questions over his one-time membership in an all-white golf and satanic baby snatching club. Last week Mr. Obama was forced to amend an earlier executive order banning lobbyist from administration jobs after news reports identified over a dozen members of his team who previously, or currently, lobbied on behalf of Raytheon, General Dynamics, the UAW, Church of Scientology, the Crips, ACORN, SPECTRE, Friends of Ebola, North Korea, Coalition for a Human-Free Planet, and MSNBC. The revised executive order, which requires Executive Branch employees to limit lobbying to lunch breaks, is expected to be revised again before the week.


See: Dead Hobo Reporting Glitch Claims Another White House Appointee

316 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:39:57am

re: #308 HoosierHoops

When I went to Temple U. (PA state school) tuition was about $1,500/yr.* I had all four years saved up before my first day of school. Now it's $11,000-$13,000 for undergraduates.

When my daughter was in pre-school I complained that the fees for part time were way higher than my college tuition. But that ain't nothing compared to what my little brother is paying for private pre-school and kindergarten in New York City! My kid's private college tuition is cheap compared to that!

/* See? I told you. "Over 30" isn't an issue...anymore. :-(

317 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:42:24am

re: #315 Ledger1

Her boss, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, has yet to deliver a promised 'full explanation' after police discovered 11 Laotian prostitutes caged in the garage of her Chappaqua NY home.

easy answer for that she was holding em for Bill.

318 gmsc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:48:49am

Good night, all!

319 tappin52  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:50:02am

re: #316 littleoldlady

If I ever had to return to school, it is a fact that I don't have enough years left in my life to pay off student loans.

320 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:51:35am

re: #316 littleoldlady

When I went to Temple U. (PA state school) tuition was about $1,500/yr.* I had all four years saved up before my first day of school. Now it's $11,000-$13,000 for undergraduates.

When my daughter was in pre-school I complained that the fees for part time were way higher than my college tuition. But that ain't nothing compared to what my little brother is paying for private pre-school and kindergarten in New York City! My kid's private college tuition is cheap compared to that!

/* See? I told you. "Over 30" isn't an issue...anymore. :-(

Temple is a great university.. I got a chance to go on campus in the 90's in Philly..It is a tough Neighborhood... But i really love the College..Man up.

321 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:51:54am

re: #307 Erik The Red

LOL but apparently not written by George Carlin.

Good Morning LGF.

322 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:53:37am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

re: #319 tappin52

If I ever had to return to school, it is a fact that I don't have enough years left in my life to pay off student loans.

I'm not so sure my almost-21 year old has enough years either. :-(

/the Hadron Collider should solve all our problems
//either that or the Mayan-scheduled end of the world...

323 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:54:05am

re: #321 Spare O'Lake

LOL but apparently not written by George Carlin.

Good Morning LGF.

Shit I don't know who wrote it. But it is good.

324 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 2:59:58am

I need to go to the library running out of decent jokes. Plenty of crude ones but don't want the stick.

325 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:02:49am

re: #320 HoosierHoops

Back then I got a very good undergraduate education - for the money - and an even better MBA from the B-school. (Of course, back then even Philadelphia public schools were pretty much worth the property taxes the city dwellers paid.) They had world-class professors for Liberal Arts and the B-school teachers I had actually worked in their fields. (My finance teacher worked for the Federal Reserve.)

But yeah, it's always been a tough neighborhood. My father was none too please when my car got stolen, parked just a few feet from the dorms...

I don't know how it is now. My daughter has friends there who seem to be happy with it.

326 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:04:02am

'Morning, Spare! :-)

re: #324 Erik The Red

I need to go to the library running out of decent jokes. Plenty of crude ones but don't want the stick.

Or the WHACK!

/MandyMode

327 eschew_obfuscation  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:04:47am

re: #322 littleoldlady

'Night, gmsc! :-)

I'm not so sure my almost-21 year old has enough years either. :-(

/the Hadron Collider should solve all our problems
//either that or the Mayan-scheduled end of the world...


Heh... they can't even fire that thing up until spring because Europe with all of its "alternative energy" can't produce enough electricity in cold months.

328 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:06:43am

re: #322 littleoldlady

'Night, gmsc! :-)

I'm not so sure my almost-21 year old has enough years either. :-(

/the Hadron Collider should solve all our problems
//either that or the Mayan-scheduled end of the world...

The LHC is perhaps one of man's greatest engineering feat..
They didn't build it to solve problems..It was build to answer questions..
I can't wait to see if string theory holds up..I don't think it will..But when the LHC collapse the supposed 11 dimensions at near the speed of light we get to observe something that man has ever seen before..I hope Hawking doesn't have a stroke..cause this is going to be good.. Of course everybody is looking for the 'God' particle that explains gravity.. Not so much me.. I want to either go towards the brane theorem direction or multiple universes or chuck the whole concept.

329 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:11:50am

re: #328 HoosierHoops

Multiple universes appeals to me.

/I'll come back after Obama is gone...

330 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:13:42am

re: #325 littleoldlady

Back then I got a very good undergraduate education - for the money - and an even better MBA from the B-school. (Of course, back then even Philadelphia public schools were pretty much worth the property taxes the city dwellers paid.) They had world-class professors for Liberal Arts and the B-school teachers I had actually worked in their fields. (My finance teacher worked for the Federal Reserve.)

But yeah, it's always been a tough neighborhood. My father was none too please when my car got stolen, parked just a few feet from the dorms...

I don't know how it is now. My daughter has friends there who seem to be happy with it.

Yup..I got robbed of 3 grand when I was in Philly..I really love the city..But..I have at least one issue with it...You probably haven't read my post about me chasing the dude down stairs at the travel lodge in South Philly with only a sheet wrapped around me screaming i'm going to kill you down 10 floors? Funny story.. I ended up out in street..out of breath..freezing in the winter time..totally jacked and the rent a cop wants to arrest me...I'm yelling did you see that man? ( I'll never forget the looks..I was naked as a jaybird under the sheet)
funny story..love philly

331 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:13:50am
332 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:20:44am

re: #330 HoosierHoops

GOOD LORD! :-(

333 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:21:09am
334 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:22:07am
335 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:22:14am

ploomie! :-)

336 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:23:09am

re: #334 ploome hineni

Like sheeps in the night.
© Archie Bunker

;-)

337 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:24:55am

re: #331 ploome hineni

no lobbying or government associated influence peddling for 15 years (maybe 20) after their elected term is over

What about the huge pork problem? It seems like so many of them are already owned by special interests by the time they are elected or at least by the time of their first vote.

338 The Other Les  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:25:47am

re: #4 Fenway_Nation

Associated Press CEO demands more open access to US military operations- calls Armed Forces 'Bush's Propaganda Machine'.

/these fucking quislings are falling all over themselves to pat themselves on the back while sales and circulation plummet.

Journalism has become the practical equivalent of perjury carried out on a national scale.

Perjury in a capital murder case may lead to the wrongful execution of an innocent individual or the wrongful release of an actual murderer and the subsequent murder of additional victims.

The consequences of perjury in the field of national politics may require an accountant to keep track of the bodies.

339 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:26:47am
340 godfrey  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:27:27am

The Fairness Doctrine is for losers.

341 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:27:49am
342 godfrey  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:30:21am

A politician is a lobbyist for his backers first and his constituency second.

343 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:30:32am

'Night, ploome. :-)

'Morning, godfrey! :-)

344 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:31:23am

re: #340 godfrey

The Fairness Doctrine is for losers.

As soon as they call it a "doctrine" you KNOW it's bullshit.

345 The Other Les  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:31:27am

re: #14 Dustyvet

Scored 14.

346 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:31:55am

re: #332 littleoldlady

GOOD LORD! :-(

LOL
you know the round travel lodge in South Philly.. Going down the stairs you run in circles a round and round and round..You get dizzy.. I should have taken the Elevator.. But I was yelling at him all the way down..And it was taking a long time.. I was running out of things to say..You can only trash talk for 5 floors before you are ready to die from cramps..
He kept saying saying you ain't catching me white boy! It was like a rabbit in front of a greyhound...pathetic really..I just had to keep chasing him..heck if he had a gun..I'd already be dead...So down the stairs we ran..Him making fun of me being too slow and me thinking..Jememmmee.. I ran a 10.3 in the 100 yard in high school and this dude is smoking me..
and around and around we go..I don't think my trash talking impressed him..LOL good story..
Want some coffee Little old lady..doing Kona this AM

347 godfrey  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:32:21am

night ploomie
morning lol! how's life under the Rule of O?

348 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:34:12am

re: #306 littleoldlady

I wonder what the late great Sam Kinison would say about the state of things now.

349 godfrey  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:34:45am

Hoosier

It's hard to run fast in a dress. He should've made allowances.

350 godfrey  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:36:58am

re: #348 BakaRanger

"See? This is sand. Nothing grows here! You live in a f*** desert!"

351 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:37:22am

re: #307 Erik The Red

I wonder what the late great Sam Kinison would say about the state of things now.


Sorry #306, wrong quote.

352 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:38:01am

re: #349 godfrey

Hoosier

It's hard to run fast in a dress. He should've made allowances.

LOL
I do know i was out of breath on a south Philly street in the wintertime wrapped in only a sheet pissed the fuck off and ready to kill something..That's when I met the rent a cop...

353 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:38:24am

re: #348 BakaRanger

"See? This is sand. Nothing grows here! You live in a f*** desert!"

He was the best. I miss his primal scream.

354 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:40:01am

re: #346 HoosierHoops

No, I don't know that place. (Been suburban for well over 20 years now.) I lived in West Philly, North Philly, Center City and Fairmount. South Philly was just where I occasionally visited for the Italian Market and great Italian food.

Well, it IS a good story. Glad you still like the city.

/although I can't see HOW ;-)

355 tappin52  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:41:07am

re: #350 godfrey

Go where the food is!

356 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:41:32am

re: #347 godfrey

night ploomie
morning lol! how's life under the Rule of O?

Some days I can't stop laughing hysterically; others I hide under my blankie.

And you?

357 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:42:15am

Sam Quotes:::

-Sam Kinison
There's no happy ending to cocaine. You either die, you go to jail, or else you run out.

-Sam Kinison 'Charlie, why'd you do it?' 'I heard the album. I heard that goddam White Album. Why don't we do it in the road? Whadda you think he was sayin', man? No one will be watching us.' And you're sitting there going: IT'S A F---IN' ALBUM! YOU WERE ON ACID, MANSON! IT'S A F---IN' ALBUM! You'd have gotten the same message out of the Monkees, you f---in' d---head.

-Sam Kinison Jesus had a tough life. I read about that guy. Jesus is the only guy that ever came back from the dead that didn't scare the F--- out of everybody!
-Sam Kinison

358 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:42:29am

re: #348 BakaRanger

I wonder what the late great Sam Kinison would say about the state of things now.

Baka! :-)

He'd be screaming.

/...along with the rest of us :-(

359 BakaRanger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:43:49am

re: #358 littleoldlady

It wouldn't help...but you would feel better.

360 tappin52  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:45:39am

You know, I'm worried that before this is all over Obama may end up a little too much like Lincoln.

361 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:49:57am

re: #354 littleoldlady

No, I don't know that place. (Been suburban for well over 20 years now.) I lived in West Philly, North Philly, Center City and Fairmount. South Philly was just where I occasionally visited for the Italian Market and great Italian food.

Well, it IS a good story. Glad you still like the city.

/although I can't see HOW ;-)

I love Philly..There is so much to see and do..I was working for the DOD when we shut down the shipyard there..What a wonderful city.../ I ran up those stairs that rocky did..and have a pic of me in front of his statue in Philly..The parks are spectacular...
/We did this little Italian joint where the waterboys were dressed up like altarboys and i swear most everybody looked mafia..it was so cool..Everything was handmade in the kitchen...

362 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:54:44am

re: #361 HoosierHoops

That was 1995. I know because talloldman worked at the shipyard. :-( :-( :-(

Everyone in South Philly Italian restaurants were/are Mafia! ;-)

363 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 3:55:31am

re: #360 tappin52 Bad Mojo there tappin. Last thing we need is a Martyr made of him.

364 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:02:37am

re: #362 littleoldlady

That was 1995. I know because talloldman worked at the shipyard. :-( :-( :-(

Everyone in South Philly Italian restaurants were/are Mafia! ;-)

It was a sad time..But I have a few issues with the workers there..Once the announcement that the yard was closing..We were sent there..( Nuke Sub Workers) Because the JFK was there and a lot of the piiping to the engine room was cut up for refurb.. and the pipes were walked off the ship and dropped into the snow..When the snow melted most of the engine room layed upon the grounds in pieces.. We were called upon to put the JFK back together and shut Philly the hell down...

365 godfrey  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:03:23am

I like the Strip District in Pgh.

366 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:06:10am

Morning Lizards.
I know I posted this link last night but I thought it was so funny that I am posting if for AM Lizards. It is a plan for world peace:

"Now, if I were president, here's what I would do. Next time some country does something we don't take a pining too, such as supporting terrorism or speaking French, I'd pick the dumbest reason for an attack, e.g., "A 'q' should always be followed by a 'u'. I don't make the rules, Iraq, but I will enforce them." The more irrational you look, the more scared the country will be that you will really hit them hard. I'd then give the country the old one-week notice until bombing starts. Then, after just twenty-four hours, I'd start bombing. When the stupid dictator calls to complain, I'd say, "I meant one week max. Oh, and by the way, ground troops - one week." I'm sure that would be enough to capitulate the average evildoer, but some extra measures could help intimidate others as well. Like, instead of just saturation bombing a city, super-saturation bomb it. After annihilating everything until nothing but ash is left, I'd nuke the ashes. It's that extra bit of extremely disproportionate use of force that makes other countries start to wonder if America "has it all together" and really worrying who we'll lash out against next."

Read the whole thing - LMAO

367 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:07:50am

re: #366 monkeytime Ahh the old make em think your so crazy they don't mess with you defense.

368 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:08:29am

re: #367 Rustler

Ahh the old make em think your so crazy they don't mess with you defense.


It'a called Nuke The Moon and I just died laughing reading it.

369 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:13:46am

re: #364 HoosierHoops

WOW. Never heard about that! I have to ask talloldman about it when he crawls out of bed. He was a pipe welder on the JFK.

It was more than sad for a lot of those guys. Some landed on their feet right away. Some went to work for the Post Office and were miserable. A couple even committed suicide. They were told for years that the Yard was going to close, and that was the problem. It never did until 1995, and more than a few of them were in serious denial.

370 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:14:19am

Good morning lizardia!

Last night I stumbled across a move I'd been completely unaware of.

Cast a Giant Shadow

Kirk Douglas, John Wayne, Angie Dickenson, Yul Brynner, Frank Sinatra, Senta Berger (who is breathtakingly beautiful - she makes Angie Dickenson look plain).

Anyway, it's about the first days of the state of Israel. Douglas plays a U.S. military guy who helps the Israelis fight. It was released in 1966. What I found so remarkable is that it actually got the history right - right down to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

371 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:14:56am

re: #368 monkeytime
Yeah It goes a bit beyond the way we used it in school. the old bit was if you were going to a new school first thing you do is bust your self in the face hard with a book break your nose and noone messes with you for fear that (A) you will like the pain. (B) If he does this shit to himself whats he gonna do to me if I cross him.

Modern movies like "The New Guy" have slightly modified this rule to take out the biggest baddest mofo there day 1 with no provocation.

372 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:15:22am

wahabi! :-)

GREAT movie!

/well, pretty much anything with Kirk Douglas is a great movie ;-)

373 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:16:49am

re: #371 Rustler

lol!

374 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:16:56am

re: #369 littleoldlady

WOW. Never heard about that! I have to ask talloldman about it when he crawls out of bed. He was a pipe welder on the JFK.

It was more than sad for a lot of those guys. Some landed on their feet right away. Some went to work for the Post Office and were miserable. A couple even committed suicide. They were told for years that the Yard was going to close, and that was the problem. It never did until 1995, and more than a few of them were in serious denial.

That is awesome..ask him about Mare Island Naval Ship workers putting the JFK back together...

375 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:17:17am

Good morning, Lizards.

376 loggiedog  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:17:50am

listening to BBC news last night on NPR, I heard Hamas' explanation for stealing the UN aid : "It was an accident." The British reporter had some gall to say with a straight face the following: "Hamas says stealing the aid was an accident."

I just don't get how news reporters can be so trusting of the enemy, yet so cynical of those that would protect them.

377 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:18:10am

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

Morning Goddess!

378 littleoldlady  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:18:57am

re: #374 HoosierHoops

I will! :-) Right now the dog has decided it's time for me to extricate my butt from this chair... :-(

Good day, ALL!™

goddess! :-)

379 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:19:45am

re: #376 loggiedog

listening to BBC news last night on NPR, I heard Hamas' explanation for stealing the UN aid : "It was an accident." The British reporter had some gall to say with a straight face the following: "Hamas says stealing the aid was an accident."

I just don't get how news reporters can be so trusting of the enemy, yet so cynical of those that would protect them.

It's the spoiled child syndrome. A spoiled child never grows up to respect the parents, in fact, they despise them. It is the same thing with the countries that we have spoiled - they hate us for it and idolize the evil.

380 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:21:08am

re: #372 littleoldlady

wahabi! :-)

GREAT movie!

/well, pretty much anything with Kirk Douglas is a great movie ;-)

I LOVED it!

{goddess}

381 Crux Australis  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:22:58am

Not good!

At least 14 dead and at least 100 houses destroyed in wildfires in the Australian state of Victoria. Thoughts and prayers for the families of the people who died and for the firefighters.

linky

Developing story.

382 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:24:32am

re: #381 Crux Australis

Not good!

At least 14 dead and at least 100 houses destroyed in wildfires in the Australian state of Victoria. Thoughts and prayers for the families of the people who died and for the firefighters.

linky

Developing story.

I'm so sorry to hear this. Prayers on the way for all who died and their grieving families.

383 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:26:34am

re: #381 Crux Australis

Not good!

At least 14 dead and at least 100 houses destroyed in wildfires in the Australian state of Victoria. Thoughts and prayers for the families of the people who died and for the firefighters.

linky

Developing story.

The heat wave you are getting is unbelievable...

384 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:26:51am

re: #381 Crux Australis

Good lord! But the article doesn't say how the fire(s) started. Lightning?

385 rightside  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:26:54am

Morning Lizards.

{lol}
{goddess}

386 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:28:42am

re: #385 rightside

Morning Lizards.

{lol}
{goddess}

Good morning!

387 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:30:14am
388 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:33:35am

re: #387 Iron Fist

Morning IF

Does anyone know if Sirhan Sirhan is still alive?

Yep, he is.

389 Crux Australis  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:33:48am

re: #383 HoosierHoops

The heat wave you are getting is unbelievable...

And yet about 20% of Australia in the tropics is underwater due to record rainfalls and a Cyclone (Hurricane) is near the Western Australian coast.

Crazy country but I love it.

390 Crux Australis  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:35:53am

re: #389 Crux Australis

And yet about 20% of Australia in the tropics is underwater due to record rainfalls and a Cyclone (Hurricane) is near the Western Australian coast.

Crazy country but I love it.

Closer to 30% is under water. PIMF

391 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:37:34am

Ah. Daily Telegraph is reporting that arson is being investigated as the cause.

392 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:38:06am

re: #390 Crux Australis

Closer to 30% is under water. PIMF

wanna hear an aussie story? we are near a dead thred

393 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:39:11am
394 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:39:22am

Sorry for the few posts, but I've got to run off to SAT prep class.

{Lizards}!

395 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:39:33am
396 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:39:56am

re: #394 goddessoftheclassroom

Sorry for the few posts, but I've got to run off to SAT prep class.

{Lizards}!

Have a good day!

397 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:40:23am

re: #393 monkeytime

Mother of USS Cole soldier killed blasts Obama

I hope she's learned her lesson to vote for someone based on the content of his character instead of the color of his skin.

398 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:40:40am

re: #394 goddessoftheclassroom

Bye!

399 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:42:21am

re: #395 Iron Fist

100%. Obama and the Democrats have forgotten (Or never learned) that it is better to be feared than to be loved. They are like a battered wife that stays with the son of a bitch because he is really a nice man. It's all her fault for bring out the Beast in him. Had it been up to me, Osama bin Laden wouldn't have excaped into Tora Bora.

One doesn't retreat into radioactive wasteland. And the 500 million Mohammedans across the Globe will be just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

And does anyone REALLY think that A.Q. Khan's release from house arrest is just a coinkydink?

400 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:42:21am

Oh no - who lost the lizard dung?

Heart ache after Lizard Dung Lost

401 smokefire  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:42:29am

Image: RememberTheCole.jpg

Thanks for all the help.

I hope that a lot of the Vets, here think this is not disrespectfull.

402 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:44:22am
403 claspur  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:46:17am

re: #393 monkeytime

Mother of USS Cole soldier killed blasts Obama

You know, that mother doesn't look like an idiot either?

Really makes you wonder why Barry wants to suck-up to the victims(families) of The Cole ?

I have some opinion, but I'll shupp for right now...

404 gregg  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:46:19am

I like this one from Instapundit:

WHAT COULD GO WRONG? Fannie Mae will loosen credit requirements for home mortgages.

405 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:47:08am

re: #402 Iron Fist

And here's another coinkydink - Russia bribed Kahzygstan to kick our air base out.

/tummy is telling me bacon and eggs must be in my immediate future - or else - bbiab

406 gregg  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:48:32am

re: #405 wahabicorridor

And here's another coinkydink - Russia bribed Kahzygstan to kick our air base out.

/tummy is telling me bacon and eggs must be in my immediate future - or else - bbiab

Thank goodness we have a president that won't put up with that stuff.

/

407 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:48:36am

re: #400 monkeytime

Oh no - who lost the lizard dung?

Heart ache after Lizard Dung Lost

He left his shit in an unmarked bag.

408 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:49:52am

What did the douch-bags do over night?

409 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:50:14am

re: #392 HoosierHoops

wanna hear an aussie story? we are near a dead thred

Here's another Aussie! So it's definitely the DT :-)

Watching Skynews and the Victorian bushfires -just terrible

410 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:50:52am

re: #407 MandyManners

He left his shit in an unmarked bag.

Good morning Mandy..Hope today finds you well

411 coquimbojoe  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:51:27am

Hey evrybody, have a great Saturday! I am off to bed...

412 rightside  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:51:54am

re: #386 HoosierHoops

Morning Hoosier.

413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:53:42am

Spelled it wrong. But, I don't care. Yesterday made me a little cranky.

414 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:53:54am

re: #409 aussiemagpie

Here's another Aussie! So it's definitely the DT :-)

Watching Skynews and the Victorian bushfires -just terrible

that is terrible..Prayers out for you folks Aussie..
You already know the story about me and the aussies in hawaii..
:) Stay cool

415 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:54:28am

re: #413 Fat Bastard Vegetarian What happened yesterday Mr. Glenn Beck?

416 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:55:27am

re: #409 aussiemagpie
Someone mentioned just a few posts up from yours Arson is being Investigated in the Victorian prairie fire/fires.

417 gregg  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:55:38am

I was checking Accuweather this morning and read the following:

Melbourne, Australia, hit its all-time record high of 115 degrees on Friday. This was the hottest day since the Bureau of Meteorology started keeping records 150 years ago.

Stay cool, stay safe.

418 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:56:08am

re: #412 rightside

Morning Hoosier.

Good morning sir...Al Gore finally answered my prayer..It will be 50 today in Indiana and all the snow melts...Al Gore rocks..
///

419 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:56:39am

re: #417 gregg Man o Man they need Mr Al Gore to stop by for a global warming conferance to lower their temps.

420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:56:43am

re: #415 RustlerOh, only everything. Cole bomber stuff, Stimuless, general National nonsense.

421 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:57:40am
422 claspur  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:57:55am

re: #418 HoosierHoops

Good morning sir...Al Gore finally answered my prayer..It will be 50 today in Indiana and all the snow melts...Al Gore rocks..
///

lol Hoosier...Algore's still a douche tho...

423 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:58:31am

re: #420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ahh yeah that the nonconformists with regards to the Stimuless bill have come to some sort of arrangement deeply hurts me too. Not to mention Obama's disrespect to the Sailor's on board both who survived and lost their lives really ticks me off.

424 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:58:36am

Yes, bacon and eggs sound awesome.

425 rightside  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 4:59:49am

Speaking of the USS Cole,

I was there when they brought her back and put her up on blocks in the shipyard. You could not get near that ship without smelling the stench. I had occasion to speak with some of the crew, and one in particular, lost his best friend sitting across the table from him. One second they were talking with one another, and next... gone.

It was an amazing job they kept that ship afloat, but that's the training we receive continuously.

What a slap in the face to Americans, to let a murderer go in the name of "improving our image to the rest of the world".

Fucker.

426 rightside  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:00:42am

re: #418 HoosierHoops

Supposed to be in the 60's here today, and near 70 this weekend in VA.

427 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:04:01am
428 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:04:02am

re: #424 formercorpsman

Yes, bacon and eggs sound awesome.

huevos locos...

Denver omelette smothered in green chile gravy
fried potatoes
refritos
hot sopapilla and honey
bueno!

429 claspur  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:04:24am

re: #425 rightside

Speaking of the USS Cole,

I was there when they brought her back and put her up on blocks in the shipyard. You could not get near that ship without smelling the stench. I had occasion to speak with some of the crew, and one in particular, lost his best friend sitting across the table from him. One second they were talking with one another, and next... gone.

It was an amazing job they kept that ship afloat, but that's the training we receive continuously.

What a slap in the face to Americans, to let a murderer go in the name of "improving our image to the rest of the world".

Fucker.

That whole assalt was a real mess, and this young president has continued making it still reek.

430 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:06:30am

re: #410 HoosierHoops

Good morning Mandy..Hope today finds you well

Ugh. I had spotty sleep, and what sleep I had was filled with strange dreams. On this side of town, I came home to find it filled with the Kardashians and assorted Eurotrash because Americans were being "encouraged" to live in communal houses.

I went for a bike ride to the other side of town and was ambushed by the Resistance. They wouldn't let me go until I devised a plan to smuggle goods to them. They had a huge sign about "SINGLEISM".

I might need to stop reading LGF before bed.

431 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:06:58am

Since WW2 America has turned from a Sleeping Tiger to a sleeping housecat and now finally under Obama A cuddly newborn puppy ripe for Muhammed to crush.

432 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:07:01am

re: #414 HoosierHoops

that is terrible..Prayers out for you folks Aussie..
You already know the story about me and the aussies in hawaii..
:) Stay cool

Hi HH :-)

The cold glass of chardy is helping cool me down on this very hot Sydney night

I just can't believe what I've seen on Skynews - the speed of those flames racing across the land - just terrible

433 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:07:06am

re: #427 Iron Fist

Since He seems to be hearing your prayers (what up wit'at, holmes?) can you give him a stern lecture about my bailout? I have people who depend on me to make my contribution to their establishments in a timely matter. I sure could use a measley $10 million. I promise it'll stimulate my economy. If the DOJ will stand out of the way, it'll really stimulate the economy.

Ok ok ok..somebody said this at like 4am when i was brewing coffee..
Give everybody a hundred grand...
You couldn't find a house to buy..Stores would be out of stock...
/I want a beemer

434 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:07:12am

re: #425 rightside

Speaking of the USS Cole,

I was there when they brought her back and put her up on blocks in the shipyard. You could not get near that ship without smelling the stench. I had occasion to speak with some of the crew, and one in particular, lost his best friend sitting across the table from him. One second they were talking with one another, and next... gone.

It was an amazing job they kept that ship afloat, but that's the training we receive continuously.

What a slap in the face to Americans, to let a murderer go in the name of "improving our image to the rest of the world".

Fucker.

The charges were dropped without prejudice, so they can be reinstated.

435 96RoadKing  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:07:19am

re: #420 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, only everything. Cole bomber stuff, Stimuless, general National nonsense.


Morning FBV! I started thinking the big O was going to be this century's Jimmy Carter, now I'm starting to think he's more like his brother Billy (Just like Jimmy, but not quite the brainpower).

436 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:08:14am

re: #428 albusteve

Minus the chiles, I'm in.

I'm a sissy with the real hot stuff.

437 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:08:24am

re: #430 MandyManners

Ugh. I had spotty sleep, and what sleep I had was filled with strange dreams. On this side of town, I came home to find it filled with the Kardashians and assorted Eurotrash because Americans were being "encouraged" to live in communal houses.

I went for a bike ride to the other side of town and was ambushed by the Resistance. They wouldn't let me go until I devised a plan to smuggle goods to them. They had a huge sign about "SINGLEISM".

I might need to stop reading LGF before bed.

Nightmare. I had that once but I swear it was the acid.

438 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:09:08am

re: #435 96RoadKing I'm really starting to think he isn't doing this shit out of a sense of Ignorance but rather out of a sense of genuine malice.

439 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:09:31am
440 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:09:38am

re: #428 albusteve

huevos locos...

Denver omelette smothered in green chile gravy
fried potatoes
refritos
hot sopapilla and honey
bueno!

I useta' go to a diner in the foothills to the Sangre de Cristos owned and operated by a Mexican. What he could do with huevos rancheros could make you cry. To this day I can still taste his breakfast.

441 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:09:39am

re: #437 Erik The Red

You stole the worlds right out of my mouth, heh.

442 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:10:05am

How are we doing on the Resist O-pression T-shirts and accessories?

443 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:10:21am

re: #434 MandyManners

Mandy, does the guy stay in custody?

444 96RoadKing  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:10:55am

re: #438 Rustler

I'm really starting to think he isn't doing this shit out of a sense of Ignorance but rather out of a sense of genuine malice.


I know. It's getting scary how he keeps hitting every button that'll weaken the country. I know it's a little early, but is there a line on when the first call for impeachment will hit?

445 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:10:59am

re: #416 Rustler

Someone mentioned just a few posts up from yours Arson is being Investigated in the Victorian prairie fire/fires.

Hi, apparently arson is suspected in some of the fires - and here just north of Sydney today there was a bushfire at Peats Ridge, and a man was arrested late this afternoon and charged with starting this fire

There are some very sick people around

446 apachegunner  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:11:16am

hey lizards, hello from the airport, back from St. Martin and off to Houston, ahhh the traveling life.

447 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:11:24am

re: #437 Erik The Red

Nightmare. I had that once but I swear it was the acid.

The first part was kinda' nightmarish but, the second part was a blast. Well, except for the ambush part but, it got better.

448 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:11:54am

re: #425 rightside

Speaking of the USS Cole,

I was there when they brought her back and put her up on blocks in the shipyard. You could not get near that ship without smelling the stench. I had occasion to speak with some of the crew, and one in particular, lost his best friend sitting across the table from him. One second they were talking with one another, and next... gone.

It was an amazing job they kept that ship afloat, but that's the training we receive continuously.

What a slap in the face to Americans, to let a murderer go in the name of "improving our image to the rest of the world".

Fucker.

Not to make excuses for the O, but in the interest of accuracy the terrorist has apparently not been set free and he may still be charged and tried.
Too bad these terrorist pricks weren't all killed on sight.

449 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:13:02am

re: #439 Iron Fist

Without a doubt. The Lewinsky media will be right behind him, touting his tough decision making, and steel spine.

You just have to love it, when these assholes, (Kutcher, Obama, etc) all talk about how they were going to join the military, but somehow found the work there ended up doing was just as patriotic, if not more.

Pussies.

450 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:13:10am
451 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:13:12am

re: #444 96RoadKing
I've been making the call since Jan 22nd. I gave him hte benefit of the doubt for day 1's actions, thinking maybe it was just to show his voters how unlike Bush he was that novelty wore off quick. Especially when someone had to explain to him about how there was no provision for the later housing of the Gittmo detainees. He should have at least read the Damn thing before signing it.

452 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:13:19am

re: #434 MandyManners

The charges were dropped without prejudice, so they can be reinstated.

When he gets around to it. Meanwhile the terrorists and their supporters hear and see a message that communicates, weakness, ambivalence, naivete.

453 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:13:33am

re: #430 MandyManners

Ugh. I had spotty sleep, and what sleep I had was filled with strange dreams. On this side of town, I came home to find it filled with the Kardashians and assorted Eurotrash because Americans were being "encouraged" to live in communal houses.

I went for a bike ride to the other side of town and was ambushed by the Resistance. They wouldn't let me go until I devised a plan to smuggle goods to them. They had a huge sign about "SINGLEISM".

I might need to stop reading LGF before bed.

Hi Mandy..Listen you blued your nic the other day and I copped your email address.. And I wondered if you would let me send you some pics of my boy when he was in Iraq? That's all I would send you..I thought you'd like to see him in his underwear flexing his muscles out side his camp in Fallujah.

454 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:14:20am

re: #436 formercorpsman

Minus the chiles, I'm in.

I'm a sissy with the real hot stuff.

it's a mild very tasty gravey...not hot at all
or try this...
eggs, potatoes, sausage, bell peppers, onions, white cheddar...
mild red chile sauce rolled in a tortilla...
a two pound all day meal...3$

455 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:14:32am

re: #439 Iron Fist

Ah, yes. Foreign Policy among Democrts. It's worse than herding cats.

Did you say "herding cats"?

456 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:14:49am

I am waiting for the next attack on the US or one of our Allies. I want to hear 44 blame that on GWB. Fuck 44. All he his concerned about is the economy. What about keeping us safe. Maybe we need one(god forbid) to get his head out of his/Nancy's/Harry's/ ass.

457 claspur  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:14:50am

re: #448 Spare O'Lake

Not to make excuses for the O, but in the interest of accuracy the terrorist has apparently not been set free and he may still be charged and tried.
Too bad these terrorist pricks weren't all killed on sight.

That style of SOP solves the GitMo dilema. ;o)

458 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:15:01am

re: #448 Spare O'Lake

Not to make excuses for the O, but in the interest of accuracy the terrorist has apparently not been set free and he may still be charged and tried.
Too bad these terrorist pricks weren't all killed on sight.

So, this is just legal maneuvering? If that's the case, and the corksocker is still locked up, I feel better.

459 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:15:05am

re: #443 fat bastard vegetarian

Mandy, does the guy stay in custody?

Yes. He's not just walking out the door.

460 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:15:26am

re: #446 apachegunner

hey lizards, hello from the airport, back from St. Martin and off to Houston, ahhh the traveling life.

Free airport internet access! YEE HA
Hi gunner!

461 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:15:54am

re: #446 apachegunner

hey lizards, hello from the airport, back from St. Martin and off to Houston, ahhh the traveling life.

Welcome back!

I love airports - all that people watching... :-)

462 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:16:40am

re: #440 MandyManners

I useta' go to a diner in the foothills to the Sangre de Cristos owned and operated by a Mexican. What he could do with huevos rancheros could make you cry. To this day I can still taste his breakfast.

mmm...a mountain view makes it that much better eh?

463 apachegunner  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:16:43am

re: #460 HoosierHoops

Free airport internet access! YEE HA
Hi gunner!


yeah, and a new battery too! Hiya Hoops :>)

464 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:16:48am
465 96RoadKing  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:16:49am

re: #449 formercorpsman

Without a doubt. The Lewinsky media will be right behind him, touting his tough decision making, and steel spine.

You just have to love it, when these assholes, (Kutcher, Obama, etc) all talk about how they were going to join the military, but somehow found the work there ended up doing was just as patriotic, if not more.

Pussies.


Isn't the phrase they use something like 'Even we who worked have served?' I remember a Lib saying something like that to me and I could only give him a disparaging look (why do the snappy comebacks only come to you four or five hours later?). If I ever hear it again, I think I'll just respond "Pelosi!" (a term that may replace Bullshit in our lexicon).

466 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:17:55am

re: #452 DistantThunder

When he gets around to it. Meanwhile the terrorists and their supporters hear and see a message that communicates, weakness, ambivalence, naivete.

I hope they're shocked when the charges are reinstated.

467 apachegunner  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:17:56am

re: #461 aussiemagpie

Welcome back!

I love airports - all that people watching... :-)

hi aussie, I might post some pictures on photobucket or something, that is if your still interested in seeing the French West Indies that is.

468 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:18:20am

re: #453 HoosierHoops

Hi Mandy..Listen you blued your nic the other day and I copped your email address.. And I wondered if you would let me send you some pics of my boy when he was in Iraq? That's all I would send you..I thought you'd like to see him in his underwear flexing his muscles out side his camp in Fallujah.

LOL! Sure, why not.

469 96RoadKing  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:18:28am

re: #451 Rustler

I've been making the call since Jan 22nd. I gave him hte benefit of the doubt for day 1's actions, thinking maybe it was just to show his voters how unlike Bush he was that novelty wore off quick. Especially when someone had to explain to him about how there was no provision for the later housing of the Gittmo detainees. He should have at least read the Damn thing before signing it.


I salute your perspicacity. I think that's the right word...

470 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:18:57am

re: #464 Iron Fist

That's technically true, but I don't see any mechanism for keeping these guys from fleeing. Sure, the may have bail set at a million dollars. Johnny Jihadi will pony up the cash and be on his way to East Fuckedupistan in a matter of hours (at most). Jihadis have the money to burn.

your money

471 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:19:24am

re: #456 Erik The Red

I am waiting for the next attack on the US or one of our Allies. I want to hear 44 blame that on GWB. Fuck 44. All he his concerned about is the economy knocking America down to a lesser nation. What about keeping us safe. Maybe we need one(god forbid) to get his head out of his/Nancy's/Harry's/ ass.

472 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:19:32am

re: #454 albusteve

Yeah, I could do that.

473 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:19:43am

Have you all taken the Rassmussen poll? What do you think will be Obama's Approval Rating on April 30, 2009.

474 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:20:07am

re: #464 Iron Fist

East Fuckedupistan

ROTFLMAO

475 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:20:26am

"On the Waterfront" is on. I have never seen this movie.

476 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:20:59am
477 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:21:02am

re: #464 Iron Fist

That's technically true, but I don't see any mechanism for keeping these guys from fleeing. Sure, the may have bail set at a million dollars. Johnny Jihadi will pony up the cash and be on his way to East Fuckedupistan in a matter of hours (at most). Jihadis have the money to burn.

They can't flee if there is no bond set.

(Love the East Fuckedupistan.)

478 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:21:10am

re: #475 fat bastard vegetarian

"On the Waterfront" is on. I have never seen this movie.

Never heard of the movie. What's it about?

479 apachegunner  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:21:22am

re: #475 fat bastard vegetarian

"On the Waterfront" is on. I have never seen this movie.


don't, I repeat don't, miss that movie

480 apachegunner  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:21:58am

re: #478 Erik The Red
hiya Eric :>)

481 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:22:25am

re: #480 apachegunner

hiya Eric :>)

Hey apache.

482 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:22:37am

re: #476 Iron Fist

The way I understand it, they can only hold him something like 40-72 hours without charging him. I don't think they can even demand bail if they don't have any charges filed against them.

How long will the review take?

483 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:22:59am

re: #479 apachegunner

don't, I repeat don't, miss that movie

Lee J Cobb is terrific...Brando not so much

484 96RoadKing  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:23:02am

re: #475 fat bastard vegetarian

"On the Waterfront" is on. I have never seen this movie.


It's a classic. "I cudda been a contenda!"

485 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:23:06am

re: #465 96RoadKing

To be honest, that statement has truth in it.

Obviously, during a war time economy, such as WW2, the civilian population was very integral to the effort. Battleships, etc.

Somehow, I don't know if one could qualify Punked, or actually spending the treasury on scam artists as actually being an act patriotism, let alone valor or heroism.

486 smokefire  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:23:18am

re: #473 DistantThunder

Have you all taken the Rassmussen poll? What do you think will be Obama's Approval Rating on April 30, 2009.

If the MSM is going to report it, it will still be over 60%
He can do no wrong {SARC BUTTON ON HIGH}

487 apachegunner  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:23:30am

re: #483 albusteve

Lee J Cobb is terrific...Brando not so much


ahhh, brando was brando

488 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:23:32am

re: #467 apachegunner

hi aussie, I might post some pictures on photobucket or something, that is if your still interested in seeing the French West Indies that is.

Yes of course, I'd love to see those photos! Thanks for remembering:-)

489 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:23:47am

re: #461 aussiemagpie I hate Airports. They always say you can find a bigger freak than yourself a the airport. I'm the poor sap that can't cause I'm hte bottom of the Crackerbarrel.

490 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:24:09am

re: #458 fat bastard vegetarian

So, this is just legal maneuvering? If that's the case, and the corksocker is still locked up, I feel better.

Yes, but the problem is that the fucker is still being allowed to spew carbon dioxide and methane gas into the environment.

491 smokefire  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:24:35am

re: #484 96RoadKing

It's a classic. "I cudda been a contenda!"

Great flick...They don't make them like that anymore

...more like, they CAN'T make them like that anymore.

492 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:24:43am

re: #468 MandyManners

LOL! Sure, why not.

Thanks sweetie..Expect some pictures from 1st platoon Monday from my work computer,
Jordan is a great kid..

493 gregg  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:24:45am

re: #478 Erik The Red

Never heard of the movie. What's it about?

From IMDB: "An ex-prize fighter turned longshoreman struggles to stand up to his corrupt union bosses."

Sounds relevant even today.

494 apachegunner  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:24:51am

re: #489 Rustler

I hate Airports. They always say you can find a bigger freak than yourself a the airport. I'm the poor sap that can't cause I'm hte bottom of the Crackerbarrel.

get outta here, your the best

495 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:25:20am

re: #476 Iron Fist

The way I understand it, they can only hold him something like 40-72 hours without charging him. I don't think they can even demand bail if they don't have any charges filed against them.

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said Crawford withdrew the charges against al-Nashiri. However, new charges can be brought again later, and al-Nashiri will remain in prison for the time being.

496 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:25:29am

re: #487 apachegunner

ahhh, brando was brando

I coulda been somebody

497 smokefire  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:27:06am

re: #495 MandyManners

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said Crawford withdrew the charges against al-Nashiri. However, new charges can be brought again later, and al-Nashiri will remain in prison for the time being.

...or until the Left finds a way to get them sprung.

Never underestimate the power of the left to F**K up this country.

498 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:27:06am

re: #473 DistantThunder
Can we go negative?

499 96RoadKing  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:27:09am

re: #478 Erik The Red

Never heard of the movie. What's it about?


Based on longshoremen & the Mob in the '50's. Brando was the 'golden boy' of the industry. Strong supporting work from Lee J. Cobb and a number of other actors you'll recognize. I still haven't had my morning cup of coffee, so the mind's not moving fast enough. Definately a movie you want to see.

500 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:27:22am

re: #489 Rustler

I hate Airports. They always say you can find a bigger freak than yourself a the airport. I'm the poor sap that can't cause I'm hte bottom of the Crackerbarrel.

LOL! Don't be so modest :-)

501 smokefire  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:28:38am

re: #499 96RoadKing

...just watched Exodus last night, speaking of Lee J. Cobb. Commented that all of the main characters except Eva Marie Saint are gone from that movie.

502 96RoadKing  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:28:42am

re: #485 formercorpsman

To be honest, that statement has truth in it.

Obviously, during a war time economy, such as WW2, the civilian population was very integral to the effort. Battleships, etc.

Somehow, I don't know if one could qualify Punked, or actually spending the treasury on scam artists as actually being an act patriotism, let alone valor or heroism.

The comment came from a guy who burned his draft card in 1969 and became a social worker. I really don't think he qualified for the above.

503 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:29:39am

re: #497 smokefire

...or until the Left finds a way to get them sprung.

Never underestimate the power of the left to F**K up this country.

For what it's worth, Crawford was appointed by G.W. Bush.

504 ciaospirit  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:31:32am

re: #448 Spare O'Lake

Not to make excuses for the O, but in the interest of accuracy the terrorist has apparently not been set free and he may still be charged and tried.

Doesn't matter. Why cancel the trial in the first place? All that time and effort wasted. Wasn't the big complaint by the ACLoonU, "justice delayed is justice denied" and their right to a speedy trial is being denied? They attacked Bush relentlessly on that point. Now, we have a resentful brat running the country.

505 smokefire  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:32:04am

re: #503 MandyManners

maybe so, Mandy, but I felt a whole lot safer with W, than with O.
W Loves this country, sorry but O is out to destroy this country, and is well on his way.

506 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:32:40am

Fucking coward.

Millions of people use it every day to pass on harmless snippets of gossip to friends and family.

But the message Emma Brady's husband posted on Facebook could not have been more devastating.

It read: 'Neil Brady has ended his marriage to Emma Brady.'

Mrs Brady, a 35-year-old conference organiser, claims she had no idea he even wanted a divorce, and only found out when a friend, who read the post on the social networking website, rang to console her.

SNIP

The 'Facebook divorce' emerged as Brady, a 39-year-old IT consultant, was brought to court for assaulting his wife.

SNIP

507 96RoadKing  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:33:13am

re: #501 smokefire

...just watched Exodus last night, speaking of Lee J. Cobb. Commented that all of the main characters except Eva Marie Saint are gone from that movie.


Another great one, although I think Paul Newman was miscast in the movie. Charleton Heston would have been a better choice.

508 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:33:31am

More on the terrible bushfires in Victoria

Horrific photo - from the Sunday Age online

Look at this photo and imagine being confronted by this...I can't

News about those who have lost their lives...

It appears that six of the dead were in a car and may be one family, just heartbreaking

Skynews reporting now a little rain is falling with the southerly change

509 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:33:41am

re: #502 96RoadKing

Usually the ones who feel compelled to the statement don't.

The one thing that always perplexed me, is why people would spend so much money on a degree like social work, where there is no financial gain. No doubt, they are ideologues who see western society as an enemy which they must defend people against.

No doubt, that defense always comes in the form of having the hand out for the enemy's money.

510 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:33:55am

Anyone for a drink? I have a good 12 scotch that has been opened. Beer in the fridge or a good sauvignon blanc ice cold.

511 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:34:46am

re: #506 MandyManners

Yeah, I can't argue with that. No balls.

512 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:34:59am

re: #505 smokefire

maybe so, Mandy, but I felt a whole lot safer with W, than with O.
W Loves this country, sorry but O is out to destroy this country, and is well on his way.

What concerns me is his claim--backed by the CIA's admission--to having been water-boarded. Crawford has found that water-boarding is torture.

513 apachegunner  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:35:37am

re: #510 Erik The Red

Anyone for a drink? I have a good 12 scotch that has been opened. Beer in the fridge or a good sauvignon blanc ice cold.


{perk}

514 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:35:46am

re: #510 Erik The Red

Anyone for a drink? I have a good 12 scotch that has been opened. Beer in the fridge or a good sauvignon blanc ice cold.

The sun is barely over the horizon here, let alone the yardarm.

515 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:36:09am

re: #511 formercorpsman

Yeah, I can't argue with that. No balls.

Why she didn't boot his butt to the curb last year is beyond me.

516 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:36:26am

re: #512 MandyManners

What concerns me is his claim--backed by the CIA's admission--to having been water-boarded. Crawford has found that water-boarding is torture.

Nancy Pelosi agrees that waterboarding is legal

517 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:36:34am

re: #503 MandyManners

Hey, Mandy, I thought you were gonna get rid of this damn month...does this mean your empressification is stalled someplace?

518 filetandrelease  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:36:56am

I just read on another blog that when Obama boards air force one that he doesn't salute the Marines. Has anyone confirmed that? Please tell me that is not true.

519 96RoadKing  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:37:14am

re: #509 formercorpsman

Usually the ones who feel compelled to the statement don't.

The one thing that always perplexed me, is why people would spend so much money on a degree like social work, where there is no financial gain. No doubt, they are ideologues who see western society as an enemy which they must defend people against.

No doubt, that defense always comes in the form of having the hand out for the enemy's money.


I've always thought they felt just a little guilty for take the coward's path and avoiding the opportunity to serve. But you're right, the guy was a left wing looney indeologue that thinks the USA is the cause of all the world's problems...

520 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:37:53am

re: #514 MandyManners

The sun is barely over the horizon here, let alone the yardarm.

OK then tea,coffee, Amarula coffee, Irish coffee. I forget sometimes that I am 7/10 hours ahead of the US Lizards.

521 apachegunner  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:37:55am

re: #518 filetandrelease

I just read on another blog that when Obama boards air force one that he doesn't salute the Marines. Has anyone confirmed that? Please tell me that is not true.

I noticed him saluting them coming off. has anyone noted the nobama strut?

522 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:38:01am

re: #510 Erik The Red

Anyone for a drink? I have a good 12 scotch that has been opened. Beer in the fridge or a good sauvignon blanc ice cold.

I don't like scotch..never got it..And I'm from Napa.only the lower class puts wine in a fridge..
LOL

523 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:38:52am

re: #516 albusteve

Nancy Pelosi agrees that waterboarding is legal

I guess what matters is what the person who has jurisdiction over the trial thinks.

524 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:38:56am

re: #514 MandyManners

The sun is barely over the horizon here, let alone the yardarm.

there are some clouds oner the Sandias and the Monzanos to the south...in about 20min the entire eastern sky is gonna explode in a bright orange, red, and pink fire...does that every day

525 smokefire  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:38:57am

re: #507 96RoadKing

Roady...not a bad comment. Chuck would have been good. From what I remember from the book, and the description by Leon Uris of Ari Ben Cannan, Paul and/or Chuck would have both been good choices.

It was reported that during this movie Newman (who is half Jewish), had an awakening, and got in touch with his Jewish roots.

526 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:39:20am

re: #510 Erik The Red At least its not an 18 year old scotch or I'd think you were channel Stifler's Mom.

Stifler's Mom: I got some scotch.
Finch: Single malt?
Stifler's Mom: Aged eighteen years. The way I like it.

from Imdb but actually should read Aged 18 years just like i like my men.

527 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:39:21am

re: #510 Erik The Red

Anyone for a drink? I have a good 12 scotch that has been opened. Beer in the fridge or a good sauvignon blanc ice cold.

Hi Erik, the cold sauv blanc sounds good :-)

Need it to drown my sorrows - sign at the ODI cricket match last night - Aussies v NZ

EVEN WE''RE BETTER THAN YOU! (held up by an impertinent Kiwi)

Aussie world domination over...

528 apachegunner  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:39:21am

well, I'm off cya in houston

529 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:39:23am

re: #517 Spare O'Lake

Hey, Mandy, I thought you were gonna get rid of this damn month...does this mean your empressification is stalled someplace?

I decided to keep it so that we can appreciate March and April all the more.

530 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:39:24am

re: #518 filetandrelease

I just read on another blog that when Obama boards air force one that he doesn't salute the Marines. Has anyone confirmed that? Please tell me that is not true.

I heard that he shuck hands with them. WTF

531 filetandrelease  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:39:28am

re: #521 apachegunner

I noticed him saluting them coming off. has anyone noted the nobama strut?

Whew, thanks, that would have been disgusting. Not surprising though.

532 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:40:05am

re: #515 MandyManners

Who knows. As well, if they were that unhappy, why not call it quits together?

533 Irish Rose  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:40:07am

Good mornng, lizards.

Joe Biden says theres' a 30 percent chance that they're going to get it wrong..

The vice president... recalled a recent White House meeting with the president and senior aides in which they were discussing the many challenges the country faces.

"If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, there's still a 30 percent chance we're going to get it wrong," was his message at the meeting.


What's wrong with this picture?

534 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:40:17am

re: #518 filetandrelease Someone posted video of him Pulling a marines hand from his brow.

535 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:40:20am

re: #518 filetandrelease

I just read on another blog that when Obama boards air force one that he doesn't salute the Marines. Has anyone confirmed that? Please tell me that is not true.

I wouldn't doubt it. He's dumped the military band in the White House in exchange for a piano playing Cole Porter and Sting's Desert Rose.

536 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:40:40am

re: #523 MandyManners

I guess what matters is what the person who has jurisdiction over the trial thinks.

since BO doesnt explain his motives I think it's too soon to tell what the hell is gonna happen...he's taking another PR hit and that's good

537 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:40:45am

re: #519 96RoadKing

Funny how they never seem to move to a better country.

538 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:40:55am

re: #520 Erik The Red

OK then tea,coffee, Amarula coffee, Irish coffee. I forget sometimes that I am 7/10 hours ahead of the US Lizards.

Aren't you moving back in June?

539 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:18am

re: #520 Erik The Red

OK then tea,coffee, Amarula coffee, Irish coffee. I forget sometimes that I am 7/10 hours ahead of the US Lizards.

Erik, I'm happy to be your LGF drinking companion - it's just after 12.30am Sunday :-)

540 smokefire  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:34am

re: #510 Erik The Red

Anyone for a drink? I have a good 12 scotch that has been opened. Beer in the fridge or a good sauvignon blanc ice cold.

...It's 5 o"clock somewhere...maybe not here in New England, but close enough.


Enjoy.

541 ciaospirit  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:53am

House Dems off for three day luxury retreat

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Members of Congress were quick to shame corporate executives for over-the-top extravagance during the economic crisis, flying private jets and taking luxury junkets. But some lawmakers are strolling fancy resorts spending tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars and mingling with lobbyists.

542 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:57am

re: #524 albusteve

there are some clouds oner the Sandias and the Monzanos to the south...in about 20min the entire eastern sky is gonna explode in a bright orange, red, and pink fire...does that every day

I useta' love watching the Rockies to the west light up when the sun rose in the east, especially in the winter.

543 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:41:58am

re: #533 Irish Rose
The number is Far to low?

544 filetandrelease  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:42:04am

re: #535 MandyManners
We are so screwed.

545 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:42:05am
546 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:42:19am

re: #517 Spare O'Lake

Hey, Mandy, I thought you were gonna get rid of this damn month...does this mean your empressification is stalled someplace?

Yeah, but March, sounds so...so... Communist.

547 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:42:58am

re: #538 MandyManners

Aren't you moving back in June?

Big YES. Closed on the business on Thursday. I hope the house is next. I hope to be there by the end of May. The family to follow around mid July.

548 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:43:00am

re: #532 formercorpsman

Who knows. As well, if they were that unhappy, why not call it quits together?

Some people believe in doing everything they can to make it work.

549 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:44:08am

re: #533 Irish Rose

Good mornng, lizards.

Joe Biden says theres' a 30 percent chance that they're going to get it wrong..


What's wrong with this picture?

Maybe he's telling the Pakis that the US will bomb the shit out of them even if they're not behind whatever happens.

550 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:44:28am

re: #535 MandyManners

That was verified?

For some reason, and I could be wrong, I thought Charles was of the impression that was truther territory.

551 smokefire  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:44:45am

...from the local grocery store flyer...

Price Chopper Peanut Butter 2 for 3.00

Are you feeling lucky...?

552 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:44:47am

re: #536 albusteve

since BO doesnt explain his motives I think it's too soon to tell what the hell is gonna happen...he's taking another PR hit and that's good

I hope that dead sailor's mom continues to raise hell.

553 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:45:09am

re: #533 Irish Rose

Good mornng, lizards.
Joe Biden says theres' a 30 percent chance that they're going to get it wrong..
What's wrong with this picture?

Good morning.
What's wrong with the picture is that you've got a senile idiot for VP.

554 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:45:43am

re: #541 ciaospirit

House Dems off for three day luxury retreat

Democrats, thy middle name is "Hypocrite".

555 smokefire  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:45:57am

re: #553 Spare O'Lake

Good morning.
What's wrong with the picture is that you've got a senile idiot for VP.

...well at least he is not going to take anyone out duck hunting.

556 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:46:06am

re: #551 smokefire

...from the local grocery store flyer...

Price Chopper Peanut Butter 2 for 3.00

Are you feeling lucky...?

Not. At. All.

557 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:46:42am

re: #544 filetandrelease

We are so screwed.

CBBHO is shaping up to be far worse than Clinton when it comes to personally disrespecting the military.

558 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:46:45am

re: #542 MandyManners

I useta' love watching the Rockies to the west light up when the sun rose in the east, especially in the winter.

winter is the season for the sunrise...
summer for the equally spectacular sunsets...
no matter the Sandias right behind me always glow for about 10 min or so every evening...pink or gold depending...Sandia means 'watermellon' for the unusual pink color...a little like June Belles only not indigo

559 Irish Rose  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:46:48am

An 800 billion dollar bill that will force us into financial servitude for generations, with a 30 percent failure ratio.

I may start drinking early today.

560 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:47:19am

re: #552 MandyManners

This might sound insensitive, but the RNC should be courting her right now, and seeing if someone could draft legislation in her son's name regarding this policy.

561 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:47:38am

re: #559 Irish Rose

An 800 billion dollar bill that will force us into financial servitude for generations, with a 30 percent failure ratio.

I may start drinking early today.

Come join me IR. On me.

562 Luigi  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:47:55am

John Kerry lets the mask slip...

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]


I've supported many tax cuts over the years, and there are tax cuts in this proposal. But a tax cut is non-targeted.

If you put a tax cut into the hands of a business or family, there's no guarantee that they're going to invest that or invest it in America.

They're free to go invest anywhere that they want if they choose to invest.

Kerry apparently believes Americans cannot have that much freedom.

563 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:48:55am
564 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:49:29am

re: #562 Luigi

John Kerry lets the mask slip...

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

Kerry apparently believes Americans cannot have that much freedom.

It is called THE FREE MARKET asshat.

565 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:49:49am

re: #562 Luigi

Given his proclivity for marrying into it, I'd say Kerry is rather sanguine about other people's money.

566 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:50:12am

re: #545 Iron Fist

I don't know. I'm not a lawyer, just had my dealings with law enforcement from time to time. The exact amount of time he He can be held wihout charges indefinately. That is one of the things the Leftists whined about the Bush Administration, and Obama promised to fix isn't the internet wonderful? I don't have a clue about something, or even how I should call it, but I take my best guess at google, and the answer pops right to the top :-).

Will Obama throw his moonbat base under the bus? Or will he let the nic terrorists go free. Any lizard lawyers out there? Can Johnny Jihadi sue to be released on bail? If he can, he'd be a fool not to. The Obamessiah probably would rather he walk, than have to go to Court, in front of all the cameras, and explain how this provision of law that Chimpy McHalliburton Bushitler made was what is necessary for Homeland Defense.

That would be most entertaining :-)

Since the military has jurisdiction over al-Nashiri, I wonder if it must grant bail.

567 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:50:25am

Departing from the South Lawn, Obama broke from tradition as he boarded Marine One, the presidential helicopter. He seemed to stun the Marine standing at attention by reaching out to shake his hand. The Marine obliged, shaking the president's hand before returning to a steady salute.

Then at Andrews, Obama climbed the stairs and headed straight on the plane — without the traditional wave to onlookers.

from Yahoo news

568 Luigi  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:50:31am

re: #565 wahabicorridor

Given his proclivity for marrying into it, I'd say Kerry is rather sanguine about other people's money.

That about sums it up.

569 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:51:10am

Son of a bitch! Fred Gwynne (Herman Munster) was in the Waterfront. Played a goon.

570 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:51:51am

re: #563 Iron Fist

He's shaping up as far worse than Clinton on a Number of fronts. I wonder when he's going to break out gun control? Hopefully not until he has so damaged himself that his cred is in the negatives, and even the Donks tell him to STFU.

I'm guessing the handgun business is gonna be recession-proof this time around.

571 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:52:00am

re: #567 Rustler

Departing from the South Lawn, Obama broke from tradition as he boarded Marine One, the presidential helicopter. He seemed to stun the Marine standing at attention by reaching out to shake his hand. The Marine obliged, shaking the president's hand before returning to a steady salute.

Then at Andrews, Obama climbed the stairs and headed straight on the plane — without the traditional wave to onlookers.

from Yahoo news

I guess it is better than a fist bump.

572 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:52:06am

re: #547 Erik The Red

Big YES. Closed on the business on Thursday. I hope the house is next. I hope to be there by the end of May. The family to follow around mid July.

As the typing test says, Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.

573 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:52:34am

re: #565 wahabicorridor

He is a slime-ball. Funny, he scoops the widow of a Republican Senator.

The bastard inherits the wealth of those he spent his career opposing.

574 Luigi  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:52:48am
575 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:52:51am

re: #550 formercorpsman

That was verified?

For some reason, and I could be wrong, I thought Charles was of the impression that was truther territory.

I don't know. I read it here yesterday.

576 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:53:22am
577 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:53:28am

re: #572 MandyManners

As the typing test says, Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.

better see the amusement parks before they close...Disney World is a must

578 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:53:37am

re: #518 filetandrelease

According to the series of Photos in the NYT article here he saluted first then shook hands tho.

[Link: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com...]

579 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:53:44am

re: #575 MandyManners

Hey, stranger things have happened.

580 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:54:02am

re: #572 MandyManners

As the typing test says, Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.

Not much good to the military. But I am a entrepreneur and can employ fellow Americans.

581 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:54:05am

re: #558 albusteve

It's finally a bit above freezing today so I'll be taking The Kid to the park.

582 ciaospirit  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:54:21am

And the government wants to run our health care, car industry, and banks. It will be an "array of failures".

Suspect peanuts sent to schools for free lunches

WASHINGTON - Peanut Corporation of America sold 32 truckloads of roasted peanuts and peanut butter to the federal government for a free-lunch program for poor children even as the company's internal tests showed that its products were contaminated with salmonella bacteria.

Yesterday, the U.S. Department of Agriculture abruptly suspended its contract with the company, which is at the center of an outbreak of salmonella illness that has killed eight people, sickened 575 and triggered one of the largest food recalls in U.S. history.

The fact that a federal agency that shares responsibility for keeping food safe was among the thousands of customers that may have received tainted food from the Blakely, Ga., plant is the latest revelation in a scandal that has exposed an array of failures in the government's systems for keeping deadly pathogens out of the food supply.

583 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:54:22am

re: #576 Iron Fist

That's just Democrats being Democrats. It's a funny thing, how even the term Command Economy has dried up in the aftermath of the fall of the Soviet Union. It is beginning to appear that, while they won't call it that, the Donks are chomping at the bit to try to implement it.

Because it worked so well for the Soviet Union.

that will be one hell of a showdown amigo

584 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:54:43am

re: #574 Luigi

Face it, this is who we elected President.

God help America.

585 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:55:11am

re: #560 formercorpsman

This might sound insensitive, but the RNC should be courting her right now, and seeing if someone could draft legislation in her son's name regarding this policy.

I wonder who her congress critters are.

586 Irish Rose  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:55:12am

Woo hoo!

A windy day along the Lake Michigan shoreline with temps climbing up to the mid 40's/near 50 degrees today :).

The snow is melting off as I write this.
Good riddance.

587 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:55:23am

re: #581 MandyManners

It's finally a bit above freezing today so I'll be taking The Kid to the park.

gonna be 70 here...again :)

588 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:55:58am

re: #586 Irish Rose

Woo hoo!

A windy day along the Lake Michigan shoreline with temps climbing up to the mid 40's/near 50 degrees today :).

The snow is melting off as I write this.
Good riddance.

Heat wave. Pull out the bikini///

589 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:56:21am

re: #578 Rustler

According to the series of Photos in the NYT article here he saluted first then shook hands tho.

[Link: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com...]

Great... he took Marine One to Andrews to get on Air Force One to make the 30 minute flight to Williamsburg.

Hey Barry, the helicopter could have made the whole trip in less overall time and far less money, dick.

590 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:56:34am

Why doesn't everyone love us now?

Russia Rattle Sabre at Obama

591 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:57:18am

re: #563 Iron Fist

He's shaping up as far worse than Clinton on a Number of fronts. I wonder when he's going to break out gun control? Hopefully not until he has so damaged himself that his cred is in the negatives, and even the Donks tell him to STFU.

I think it might be after he's reimposed the Fairness Doctrine. Pres. Reagan ditched it so, I wonder if CBBHO can reinstate it without Congress. Isn't it ruled by the FCC? Which cabinet position controls the FCC? Commerce?

592 Irish Rose  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:57:19am

I see grass!

Praise Jaysus.

593 gregg  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:57:25am

re: #571 Erik The Red

I guess it is better than a fist bump.

My local newspaper reported with great excitement that one of our Senators received her first bump from Obama. That's what passes as reporting/news now days. Here's hoping it goes bankrupt with the rest of 'em.

594 HoosierHoops  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:57:37am

re: #586 Irish Rose

Woo hoo!

A windy day along the Lake Michigan shoreline with temps climbing up to the mid 40's/near 50 degrees today :).

The snow is melting off as I write this.
Good riddance.

I just took winston out to do his business. I loved it..The wind is really blowing hard...bye snow!

595 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:57:39am

re: #590 monkeytime

Why doesn't everyone love us now?

Russia Rattle Sabre at Obama

"here comes your 19th nervous breakdown"

596 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:57:41am

re: #581 MandyManners

It's finally a bit above freezing today so I'll be taking The Kid to the park.

I will not tell you where and what I am doing now :)

597 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:58:32am

re: #585 MandyManners

I really don't know how you would approach something like that.

I watched that yesterday, IIRC, it was your link. She sounds genuinely hurt. Not, I will play it up for television hurt, but mother lost son hurt, and this opens the wound again hurt.

Add in the dynamics of race, history, and her having voted for him, pretty much a bad situation.

598 Rustler  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:58:33am

re: #578 Rustler

Can't fault him for being a bit more friendly. At least he saluted.

599 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:58:34am

re: #593 gregg

My local newspaper reported with great excitement that one of our Senators received her first bump from Obama. That's what passes as reporting/news now days. Here's hoping it goes bankrupt with the rest of 'em.

Fuck the MFM if they think that is news worthy.

600 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:58:36am

re: #571 Erik The Red

Obama broke from tradition as he boarded Marine One, the presidential helicopter. He seemed to stun the Marine standing at attention by reaching out to shake his hand. The Marine obliged, shaking the president's hand before returning to a steady salute.

WTF?

601 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:59:07am
602 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:59:13am

re: #580 Erik The Red

Not much good to the military. But I am a entrepreneur and can employ fellow Americans.

That counts.

603 Irish Rose  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 5:59:53am

re: #600 MandyManners

WTF?

Idiot.

604 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:00:06am

This is the 2nd report I've seen in the past year that talks about Russia's problem with Muslim demographics. This one comes from the Finnish Ministry of Defense.

Another striking statistic is related to the growth of Russia’s Muslim population. Russia is about to face big demographic challenges. Russia’s population is diminishing by approximately 400 000 persons per year; yet, the population in 15 Russian regions increased in 2005. Each of them, such as Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetya in the North Caucasus has sizeable Muslim populations. The life expectancy among Muslim males is far greater than that of ethnic Russians.33
Paul Goble, an expert of Islam and the Muslim populationin Russia, estimates that the majority of Russian military recruits will be Muslims in 2015.

605 Luigi  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:00:23am

re: #576 Iron Fist

That's just Democrats being Democrats. It's a funny thing, how even the term Command Economy has dried up in the aftermath of the fall of the Soviet Union. It is beginning to appear that, while they won't call it that, the Donks are chomping at the bit to try to implement it.

Because it worked so well for the Soviet Union.

We'll do socialism about as well as the Russians do a free market. Like Al Capone. Socialism is not in our DNA. It will just end up as gangsterism. At already is.

606 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:01:01am

re: #601 Iron Fist

I'm not sure. I've never been arraigned in a Military Court. I presume the workings of the Military Court are different than those of a civilian court, and are assumed to benifit the State at the expense of the accused. This case is now so high profile that I don't see them pulling any rabbits out of their hat to convict. If it ever does go to trial.

Any more than they have been, I guess I should say. I know that back in the late '80s they could only hold you a short time without either charing you or they had to let you go. It appears that they've done away with that one, at least so far as terrorists go.

Damn... they gave us the quickie course on how a Court Martial works, procedures, organization and all that.

I can't remember any of it.

/No, I wasn't asleep... honest...

607 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:01:59am

re: #597 formercorpsman

I really don't know how you would approach something like that.

I watched that yesterday, IIRC, it was your link. She sounds genuinely hurt. Not, I will play it up for television hurt, but mother lost son hurt, and this opens the wound again hurt.

Add in the dynamics of race, history, and her having voted for him, pretty much a bad situation.

The hurt she felt was palpable.

(I didn't provide the link--it was in the thread about Pakistan--but, I did comment on it.)

608 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:03:47am

re: #601 Iron Fist

I'm not sure. I've never been arraigned in a Military Court. I presume the workings of the Military Court are different than those of a civilian court, and are assumed to benifit the State at the expense of the accused. This case is now so high profile that I don't see them pulling any rabbits out of their hat to convict. If it ever does go to trial.

Any more than they have been, I guess I should say. I know that back in the late '80s they could only hold you a short time without either charing you or they had to let you go. It appears that they've done away with that one, at least so far as terrorists go.

I wonder how quickly CBBHO will change that.

609 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:04:17am
610 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:04:44am

re: #603 Irish Rose

Idiot.

Rustler's No. 578 reports that he did salute, then shook hands.

611 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:06:02am

re: #604 wahabicorridor

This is the 2nd report I've seen in the past year that talks about Russia's problem with Muslim demographics. This one comes from the Finnish Ministry of Defense.

The life expectancy among Muslim males is far greater than that of ethnic Russians.

I wonder if that's due to the prohibition against alcohol.

612 LindaMarie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:06:20am

re: #456 Erik The Red

I am waiting for the next attack on the US or one of our Allies. I want to hear 44 blame that on GWB. Fuck 44. All he his concerned about is the economy. What about keeping us safe. Maybe we need one(god forbid) to get his head out of his/Nancy's/Harry's/ ass.

Be careful what you wish for.

613 Irish Rose  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:06:36am

re: #610 MandyManners

Rustler's No. 578 reports that he did salute, then shook hands.

Oh, that makes it OK then.

/still an idiot

614 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:07:10am

re: #600 MandyManners

WTF?

In the spirit of removing the pomp and old world formality of the Bush administration the salute will now be replaced with a more friendly and less formal
"WAZZZUPPP?"

615 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:07:39am

re: #610 MandyManners

Rustler's No. 578 reports that he did salute, then shook hands.

But, it's not that he didn't salute, he broke protocol by trying to shake the Marine's hand.

That put the Marine in the awkward position of dropping his salute, shaking hands, and then returning to his salute, which he must hold until the president has boarded.

616 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:07:45am

re: #613 Irish Rose

Oh, that makes it OK then.

/still an idiot

I still wanna' know if he's greatly reduced the role of the military band in the White House.

617 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:08:11am

re: #614 monkeytime

In the spirit of removing the pomp and old world formality of the Bush administration the salute will now be replaced with a more friendly and less formal
"WAZZZUPPP?"

LOL!

618 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:09:07am

re: #615 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

But, it's not that he didn't salute, he broke protocol by trying to shake the Marine's hand.

That put the Marine in the awkward position of dropping his salute, shaking hands, and then returning to his salute, which he must hold until the president has boarded.

Doesn't he have someone to teach him protocol?!

619 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:10:12am

re: #612 LindaMarie

Be careful what you wish for.

I don't want to see one just to teach CBBHO a lesson, either.

620 VioletTiger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:10:28am

re: #597 formercorpsman

I really don't know how you would approach something like that.

I watched that yesterday, IIRC, it was your link. She sounds genuinely hurt. Not, I will play it up for television hurt, but mother lost son hurt, and this opens the wound again hurt.

Add in the dynamics of race, history, and her having voted for him, pretty much a bad situation.


I still can't believe he did it. It almost seems as if he was so bent out of shape that anybody would defy him, he had to exercise his authority.

621 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:11:28am

re: #618 MandyManners

Doesn't he have someone to teach him protocol?!

I don't think that came up in his Communist/Muslim upbringing. Lefties tend to scoff so hard at the military (aka fascists), they think it's cool to intentionally insult those traditions.

622 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:11:58am
623 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:12:05am

re: #619 MandyManners

I don't want to see one just to teach CBBHO a lesson, either.

Nor do I. But we have a big problem. How does he learn that we have a serious and dangerous issue to deal with.

624 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:12:59am

re: #611 MandyManners

I wonder if that's due to the prohibition against alcohol.

That's part of it - altho' a lot of Muslims in Russia drink, believe me.

Another part is that there are more abortions than live births - and Muslims aren't the ones aborting.

625 VioletTiger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:13:58am

re: #616 MandyManners

I still wanna' know if he's greatly reduced the role of the military band in the White House.

I think I read that he had over on Fax. I think he has some piano player or something.

626 formercorpsman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:13:59am

re: #620 VioletTiger

Perhaps so. I can't say I have any idea as to who or what is driving his direction in these first few weeks.

Although text book liberals will always call failure success, there has to be someone in the inner circle trying to calm the flood of bad imagery.

He certainly is living up to my expectations. (Totally what I expected if you will)

627 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:15:58am

Morning. I'm thinking french toast today. Whose with me?

628 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:16:31am

re: #627 vxbush

Morning. I'm thinking french toast today. Whose with me?

I'll take some...

629 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:16:36am

'Morning fine lizards.

The media are already pimping the stimulus fraud as a "compromise".
Right. 3 rino's easily sign-on to the pork - and that's "compromise".
They trim next to nothing off - and that's "compromise".

What bullshit.

630 albusteve  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:16:49am

re: #609 Iron Fist

That is, I believe, one of the reasons that the Donks are pushing so hard for the Stimulus bill. That will give them a huge war chest in their efforts to turn America into their own reasonable facimile of pre-WWII Stallinist Russia. With that kind of money, they can determine which companies survive the recession and which countries don't.

Of course, these are Democrats. And we all know that Democrats always put the welfare of the nation ahead of any partisan bickering that may be going on.

of course...it's the only conspiracy I believe to be true...take the economy away from the people..the two party system failed us and I lay the blame squarely on the MSM...I hate those fuckers

631 Lincolntf  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:17:03am

re: #608 MandyManners

This is going to be tricky for Obama, no matter what his personal preference is.
If Obama is aiming to please his constituents and Congressional moonbats like Murtha, Kerry, Durbin, etc. (who knows, he might end up throwing them under the bus on this one) then I think the final disposition of the Cole case (and similar cases) will come in a civilian Court. If that happens, and all of the rights and privileges that an American defendant gets are applied to the terror suspects, they will all walk. This will please the NYT/Kos slobs, but it will enrage the majority of the American people.

Keeping these matters in the military system means that the Pres. is ultimately determining their fate. Does he want that direct responsibility, or would he rather have a civilian Court process to "blame" when the terrorists are set free?

One thing seems certain, and that is that Justice is a lot further away today than it was prior to Obama's election.

632 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:17:09am

re: #621 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I don't think that came up in his Communist/Muslim upbringing. Lefties tend to scoff so hard at the military (aka fascists), they think it's cool to intentionally insult those traditions.

I'm talking about now, in the White House. Isn't there a person with the responsibility to teach him about protocol other than the chief of protocol?

633 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:17:13am

re: #628 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'll take some...

Well, I still have to make it. And most of it will be gluten-free bread based. But it sounds just yummy...

634 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:17:44am

re: #622 Iron Fist

I think Congress has to re-enact the so-called Fairness Doctrine. I don't believe that the President can make such a sweeping change in domestic policy without consultation with the Senate, at the very least. Obama may be his own personal Jesus, but the Presidency isn't a dictatorship even for the Holy and Annointed One. It will be interesting to see if the Senate will become a rubber-stamp for everything Obama needs it for. While he may not in fact be a dictator, there may be little that is, in practical terms, any different than if he was.

Our only hope is the narrowly divided Supreme Court.

How did Pres. Regan ditch it if not by Executive Order?

635 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:18:36am

re: #623 Erik The Red

Nor do I. But we have a big problem. How does he learn that we have a serious and dangerous issue to deal with.

I hope it's not through trial and error.

636 abaleh  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:18:38am

re: #624 wahabicorridor

That's part of it - altho' a lot of Muslims in Russia drink, believe me.

Another part is that there are more abortions than live births - and Muslims aren't the ones aborting.

The abortions vs. live births do not affect life expectancy, only growth rate.

637 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:19:32am

re: #624 wahabicorridor

That's part of it - altho' a lot of Muslims in Russia drink, believe me.

Another part is that there are more abortions than live births - and Muslims aren't the ones aborting.

“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
- Houari Boumédienne, former radical dictator of Algeria [died in 1978]

638 Irish Rose  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:19:38am

re: #624 wahabicorridor

That's part of it - altho' a lot of Muslims in Russia drink, believe me.

Another part is that there are more abortions than live births - and Muslims aren't the ones aborting.


And this is how the West will be undone.

Musllims immigrate to the nations that they want to conquer, and have as many children as they possibly can... while Westerners in those countries are encouraged to abort their children to get rid of unwanted pregancies and limit their family size.

Why conquer a nation by the sword, when you can simply outbreed them?

639 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:19:45am

re: #624 wahabicorridor

That's part of it - altho' a lot of Muslims in Russia drink, believe me.

Another part is that there are more abortions than live births - and Muslims aren't the ones aborting.

Oh, I know that. However, I was talking about the longer longevity of Muslim men. I wonder how the longevity of Muslim women compares to the non-Muslim women, or the Muslim men.

640 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:20:07am

re: #625 VioletTiger

I think I read that he had over on Fax. I think he has some piano player or something.

I read it here yesterday.

641 VioletTiger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:20:23am

re: #629 FrogMarch
I sent emails and phoned the offending 'republicans'. Doubt it will do much good.

642 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:20:25am

re: #629 FrogMarch

'Morning fine lizards.

The media are already pimping the stimulus fraud as a "compromise".
Right. 3 rino's easily sign-on to the pork - and that's "compromise".
They trim next to nothing off - and that's "compromise".

What bullshit.

Excommunicating the RHINOs would send a message to the others, a clear message to the voters, and remove the "it was Bi-Partisan" bullshit.

643 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:21:04am

Okay, I'm hungry. Moving into the kitchen and prepping food.

I'll bring the plate around with the syrup when I'm done.

644 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:21:14am

A good morning laugh. found here.

645 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:21:21am

re: #632 MandyManners

I'm talking about now, in the White House. Isn't there a person with the responsibility to teach him about protocol other than the chief of protocol?

"We have no use for a protocol droid, what I really need is a droid that speaks Bacci".

646 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:21:51am

re: #643 vxbush

Okay, I'm hungry. Moving into the kitchen and prepping food.

I'll bring the plate around with the syrup when I'm done.

I would love some but I'm still trying to get back into my fat pants.

647 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:21:57am

re: #635 MandyManners

I hope it's not through trial and error.

So do we all MM.

648 yma o hyd  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:22:03am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

How are you all on this fine sporting weekend?

I'm just hanging out here until kick off in about half and hour or so ...

649 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:22:13am

re: #631 Lincolntf

This is going to be tricky for Obama, no matter what his personal preference is.
If Obama is aiming to please his constituents and Congressional moonbats like Murtha, Kerry, Durbin, etc. (who knows, he might end up throwing them under the bus on this one) then I think the final disposition of the Cole case (and similar cases) will come in a civilian Court. If that happens, and all of the rights and privileges that an American defendant gets are applied to the terror suspects, they will all walk. This will please the NYT/Kos slobs, but it will enrage the majority of the American people.

Keeping these matters in the military system means that the Pres. is ultimately determining their fate. Does he want that direct responsibility, or would he rather have a civilian Court process to "blame" when the terrorists are set free?

One thing seems certain, and that is that Justice is a lot further away today than it was prior to Obama's election.

I read something here last night about Boxer wanting the U.N. laws on children to replace state laws here. That'd be a humongous disaster.

650 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:22:17am

re: #633 vxbush

Well, I still have to make it. And most of it will be gluten-free bread based. But it sounds just yummy...

Gluten-free is cool... I really should stick to it, but it is expensive and I'm sloppy.

/makes me bloat... bad.

651 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:23:08am

re: #645 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

"We have no use for a protocol droid, what I really need is a droid that speaks Bacci".

You got me.

652 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:23:18am

re: #636 abaleh

The abortions vs. live births do not affect life expectancy, only growth rate.

Yeah, we know. We were talking about ALL elements of the projected Muslim demographic takeover in Russia

653 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:23:33am

Gonna' find that link about the U.N. laws on kids. bbiab

654 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:25:09am

re: #648 yma o hyd

Hey ya! You guys still snowed in?

655 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:25:33am

BBJN (Be Back Just Now) We have people coming to look at the house. XXX fingers Lizards please.

656 gregg  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:26:00am

re: #604 wahabicorridor

As a Finnish commenter pointed out in the Tundra Tabloids: "Soon we finns live between two muslim states".

657 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:26:35am

re: #655 Erik The Red

BBJN (Be Back Just Now) We have people coming to look at the house. XXX fingers Lizards please.

Good luck!

658 VioletTiger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:26:50am

re: #655 Erik The Red

BBJN (Be Back Just Now) We have people coming to look at the house. XXX fingers Lizards please.


Good luck!

659 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:26:55am

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC), which opponents say could destroy American sovereignty by imposing international rulings on American law, could reach the Senate within 60 days. Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) says she wants a 60-day timeframe for the State Department to complete its review so the Senate can move toward ratification of the UNCRC. During the Senate Confirmation hearing between Boxer and UN Ambassador-designate Susan Rice held on January 15, 2009, Boxer told Rice the UNCRC would protect "the most vulnerable people of society."

Opponents vehemently disagree. Under the Supremacy Clause (Article VI) of the U.S. Constitution, ratified treaties preempt state law. Since virtually all laws in the U.S. regarding children are state laws, this treaty would negate nearly 100% of existing American family law. Moreover, it would grant the government authority to override parental decisions by applying even to good parents a standard now only used against those convicted of abuse or neglect.

In the hearing, Rice promised to review the treaty but noted "challenges of domestic implementation." Rice also resisted a strict timeframe: "I don't have a sense of how long it will take us, in light of the many different things on our plate," she said.

Calling it a "complicated treaty," Rice expressed her commitment to the treaty's objectives, but when Rice concluded that she could not meet the Senator's strict timeframe, Boxer said they would take it up with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

660 yma o hyd  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:26:57am

Another piece of bad news:
Kyrgyz closure of US base 'final'

'Kyrgyzstan says its decision to close a US base that serves as a vital supply route for US and Nato operations in Afghanistan is "final".
It contradicts US statements that talks are ongoing about the base's future.
Meanwhile, the US has asked to move supplies through Russia, and Tajikistan has said it will allow the transit of non-military goods into Afghanistan.
Nato is understood to be increasingly concerned about the security of its supply routes through Pakistan. '

Concerned?
I say!
Is that the new expression for being thoroughly p*ssed off?

661 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:28:43am

re: #659 MandyManners

"This gonna be great!"

--Flounder, Animal House

662 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:29:46am

Poop... what _date_ was that Pakistani airstrike by the drone?

I need to add that to my Age of Obama list of screw ups.

664 yma o hyd  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:30:32am

re: #654 wahabicorridor

Hey ya! You guys still snowed in?

Not us here in South Wales!
Stretches of England do still suffer, especially that lot across the Severn. Flights from Bristol to Edinborough were cancelled because of the arctic conditions, to the dismay of lots of rugby fans.
Oh - and they had to close the two crossings over the severn because sheets of ice fell off onto the motorway:
But no snow here - only cold, hard frost, accompanied by bright sunshine!

665 quickjustice  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:31:42am

"Always do right-- you'll impress a few people, and astonish the rest!"

-Mark Twain

666 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:32:44am
667 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:32:47am

re: #656 gregg

As a Finnish commenter pointed out in the Tundra Tabloids: "Soon we finns live between two muslim states".

I saw that. Did you see the comment from the Muslim asshat about 'racist' Britain?

668 yma o hyd  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:34:07am

re: #663 MandyManners

Next step on that agenda is that it'll become a criminal offense for parents to slap - not violently beat, just slap! - their child.
They've been trying to pass this law here in the UK.
And guess who gets hauled before the courts?
Normal, middle class people.
Guess whose children slip through the net until they're actually dead?
Yep, all those with dysfunctional aprents, and who are being 'cared' for by state social services ...

669 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:34:11am

re: #657 monkeytime

re: #658 VioletTiger

Good luck!

Thank you. They just called running late so I am still here.

670 Lincolntf  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:34:53am

re: #659 MandyManners

That would be insane. Absolutely and utterly insane. Giving the U.N. precedence over so much American law would be the beginning of the end of the United States.
If this goes ANYWHERE in Congress, the outcry will be deafening.

671 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:35:41am

How to implement the UNCRC through legislation and making policy:

Develop a comprehensive national agenda;
Develop permanent bodies or mechanisms to promote coordination, monitoring and evaluation of activities throughout all sectors of government;
Ensure that all legislation is fully compatible with the Convention and, if applicable the Optional Protocols, by incorporating the provisions into domestic law or ensuring that they take precedence in cases of conflict with national legislation;
Make children visible in policy development processes throughout government by introducing child impact assessments;
Analyse government spending to determine the portion of public funds spent on children and to ensure that these resources are being used effectively;
Ensure that sufficient data are collected and used to improve the situation of all children in each jurisdiction;
Raise awareness and disseminate information on the Convention and the Optional Protocols by providing training to all those involved in government policy-making and working with or for children;
Involve civil society b including children themselves – in the process of implementing and raising awareness of child rights; and
Set up independent national offices—ombudspersons, commissions, focal points within national human rights institutions, or other institutions—to promote and protect children's rights.

672 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:35:49am

re: #669 Erik The Red

re: #658 VioletTiger


Thank you. They just called running late so I am still here.

That is always a nerve wracking process. I wish you lot's of luck - let us know how it went.

673 quickjustice  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:37:06am

re: #562 Luigi

What Democrats fear from a tax cut is that the money taxpayers save will be invested in foreign countries, not in the U.S. That's a testament to how weak they think the U.S. economy is, and how weak its prospects.

I don't think it matters where the money is invested, as long as it's invested. The same holds true for foreign investors coming over here.

674 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:37:45am

First batch on the stove...

675 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:37:51am

re: #670 Lincolntf

That would be insane. Absolutely and utterly insane. Giving the U.N. precedence over so much American law would be the beginning of the end of the United States.
If this goes ANYWHERE in Congress, the outcry will be deafening.

It goes to the most basic relationship between human beings, that between parent and child.

We already have laws to protect our kids! We don't need the stinking U.N. to impose its rule over us.

Yes, the outcry will be deafening.

676 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:38:53am

re: #672 monkeytime

That is always a nerve wracking process. I wish you lot's of luck - let us know how it went.

Will do thanks for the thoughts.

677 gregg  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:38:56am

re: #667 wahabicorridor

I saw that. Did you see the comment from the Muslim asshat about 'racist' Britain?

"There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools with bilingual Muslim teachers. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. "

If I understand him correctly, he's talking about public schools - yikes.

678 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:39:02am

re: #668 yma o hyd

Next step on that agenda is that it'll become a criminal offense for parents to slap - not violently beat, just slap! - their child.
They've been trying to pass this law here in the UK.
And guess who gets hauled before the courts?
Normal, middle class people.
Guess whose children slip through the net until they're actually dead?
Yep, all those with dysfunctional aprents, and who are being 'cared' for by state social services ...

Our CPS already has a pretty bad record for looking after kids under their jurisdiction. We surely don't need a new blue-print.

679 Irish Rose  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:39:33am

Too much to do, and not enough time to get it all done.

BBL lizards, have a good one :).

680 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:40:03am

Once again I am entertaining the idea of dropping off the grid.

681 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:40:27am

re: #675 MandyManners

It goes to the most basic relationship between human beings, that between parent and child.

We already have laws to protect our kids! We don't need the stinking U.N. to impose its rule over us.

Yes, the outcry will be deafening.

It is the ole libby "takes a village to raise a child" mentality. Meant for asshole parents who don't want/know how/care to take the time - to raise their own kids properly.

682 abaleh  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:40:32am

re: #652 wahabicorridor

Yeah, we know. We were talking about ALL elements of the projected Muslim demographic takeover in Russia

according to this study, the men in Russia are pretty much drinking themselves to death, and this becomes more accute when economic conditions deteriorate, so the current economic crisis will probably increase the death rate relative to the recent period of prosperity.

683 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:40:57am

re: #680 MandyManners

Once again I am entertaining the idea of dropping off the grid.

Okay, but then you won't get any of my french toast. Kind of a bummer, dudette. But I hear you.

684 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:41:16am

OK... found it, Missile strike on 23 Jan 09.

They released AQ Khan in response, there were other ramifications, but I don't remember what the Pakis did... anybody remember their statement?

685 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:41:36am

re: #668 yma o hyd

Baby 'P'

686 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:43:05am

re: #642 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Excommunicating the RHINOs would send a message to the others, a clear message to the voters, and remove the "it was Bi-Partisan" bullshit.

Susan Collins
Olympia Snowe
Arlin Spector

feckless crapweasels

687 Lincolntf  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:43:14am

re: #681 monkeytime

Only Liberals would model their policies after an African proverb regarding the raising of families.
Africa? I'm sorry, but I won't be taking any "tips" from that continent.

688 yma o hyd  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:43:27am

re: #675 MandyManners

It goes to the most basic relationship between human beings, that between parent and child.

We already have laws to protect our kids! We don't need the stinking U.N. to impose its rule over us.

Yes, the outcry will be deafening.

It'll be done by stealth, bit by bit, and nobody will cry out - ebcause,a fter all, its to protect the children!

In the end, there will be huge sums of money spent which will deprive others, like the elderly; there will be generations of feral children whom nobody can touch because the know 'their rights', and the rest of the society will become increasingly infantilised. Adulthood will decrease - and, as I said, the elderly will fall off the wagon.

Gotta be extra vigilant here - it won't be happening in one fell swoop but little bit by little bit.

689 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:43:28am

re: #682 abaleh

according to this study, the men in Russia are pretty much drinking themselves to death, and this becomes more accute when economic conditions deteriorate, so the current economic crisis will probably increase the death rate relative to the recent period of prosperity.

I'm kind of beginning to understand how the government/economic state can drive someone to drink themselves to death *hic*

690 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:44:06am

re: #687 Lincolntf

Only Liberals would model their policies after an African proverb regarding the raising of families.
Africa? I'm sorry, but I won't be taking any "tips" from that continent.

Racist!

///not.

691 claspur  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:44:13am

Looking for some quick insite here...

anyone, care to expound on Aaron Russo?

I looked at some of his interviews, 8-9 months ago, and I looked him up earlier this morning.
Was this guy a gasbag? I've looked at his eyes cloely now, and I don't see that he was...oh yeah, and He's dead now. *sigh

692 VioletTiger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:44:28am

re: #675 MandyManners

It goes to the most basic relationship between human beings, that between parent and child.

We already have laws to protect our kids! We don't need the stinking U.N. to impose its rule over us.

Yes, the outcry will be deafening.

Everything the UN does drives toward the global redistribution of wealth. That's really their only objective at this point.

693 yma o hyd  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:44:53am

re: #681 monkeytime

It is the ole libby "takes a village to raise a child" mentality. Meant for asshole parents who don't want/know how/care to take the time - to raise their own kids properly.

Yep - but they'll get a free ride, whereas the full force of the law will be applied to ordinary folk.

694 gregg  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:45:42am

re: #686 FrogMarch

Susan Collins
Olympia Snowe
feckless crapweasels

I think I'd just as soon Forget the Maine (with apologies to all the Maine lizards).

695 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:46:10am

re: #682 abaleh

Hey, thanks! Bookmarked in my 'Russia' folder.

696 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:46:28am

re: #681 monkeytime

It is the ole libby "takes a village to raise a child" mentality. Meant for asshole parents who don't want/know how/care to take the time - to raise their own kids properly.

To a small extent, I do believe it takes a village. A parent cannot be with a a child 24/7. If a child is acting badly and another parent/person sees it, that parent/person has an obligation to intervene, and then follow up with the parent. Society does have an obligation to intervene--through the legal system--if a child is being neglected/abused.

697 abaleh  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:47:04am

re: #689 monkeytime

I'm kind of beginning to understand how the government/economic state can drive someone to drink themselves to death *hic*

(-;

698 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:47:08am

re: #683 vxbush

Okay, but then you won't get any of my french toast. Kind of a bummer, dudette. But I hear you.

Not even a boiled egg?

*whimper*

699 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:47:18am

re: #686 FrogMarch

Susan Collins
Olympia Snowe
Arlin Spector

feckless crapweasels

Wasn't Arlen Specter the one who originally came up with the 'magic bullet' theory in the JFK assassination?

700 Lincolntf  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:47:19am

Damn! I gotta go do some work. I'm dying to rip into this UNCRC thing, so I'll be back later.

701 yma o hyd  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:47:21am

re: #685 wahabicorridor

Baby 'P'

Yep, and not just him.
Its been going on for years here, and its been introduced in small steps.
The amount of taxpayer's money spent on all that is staggering - and the outcome is dreadful.

as I've been mentioning a few days ago - Tony Blair, on whose watch this happened, thinks Obama is like himself, and Obama aims to do as Tony did, only better.
So watch out!

702 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:47:48am

re: #696 MandyManners

To a small extent, I do believe it takes a village. A parent cannot be with a a child 24/7. If a child is acting badly and another parent/person sees it, that parent/person has an obligation to intervene, and then follow up with the parent. Society does have an obligation to intervene--through the legal system--if a child is being neglected/abused.

Yes... but the libs want the village to replace the parents.

/That's the problem.

703 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:48:27am

re: #688 yma o hyd

It'll be done by stealth, bit by bit, and nobody will cry out - ebcause,a fter all, its to protect the children!

In the end, there will be huge sums of money spent which will deprive others, like the elderly; there will be generations of feral children whom nobody can touch because the know 'their rights', and the rest of the society will become increasingly infantilised. Adulthood will decrease - and, as I said, the elderly will fall off the wagon.

Gotta be extra vigilant here - it won't be happening in one fell swoop but little bit by little bit.

There are many groups who keep track of this stuff over here.

704 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:48:43am

re: #687 Lincolntf

Only Liberals would model their policies after an African proverb regarding the raising of families.
Africa? I'm sorry, but I won't be taking any "tips" from that continent.

What is wrong with broken homes, starving people, aids, malaria, hepatitis, corruption and despots? Sounds good to me///

705 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:49:08am

But they seem to be right on top of things:
Myths blunt Africa�s fight against AIDS
re: #687 Lincolntf

"The myth that sex with a virgin is a cure for HIV/AIDS is one of many that make the fight against an epidemic that has struck 40 million people worldwide -- nearly two-thirds of them in sub-Saharan Africa -- even more difficult. "

706 yma o hyd  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:50:07am

BIAW, Lizards - gotta get comfortable for four hours of rugby now!

Seeya later - and no, our lads aren't playing today, its going to be pure enjoyment today.
Fingernail-chewing, pillow-throwing, screaming and hiding behind the sofa is reserved for tomorrow!

707 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:50:12am

re: #692 VioletTiger

Everything the UN does drives toward the global redistribution of wealth. That's really their only objective at this point.

I also believe their goal is to break up the nuclear family as espoused by radical feminism. Didn't Gramsci also address this as a means to impose Communism gradually?

708 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:50:42am

Our nation is a joke now. Barney Frank is in charge of monetary policy.
seriously - we are so screwed.

709 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:51:16am

re: #696 MandyManners

To a small extent, I do believe it takes a village. A parent cannot be with a a child 24/7. If a child is acting badly and another parent/person sees it, that parent/person has an obligation to intervene, and then follow up with the parent. Society does have an obligation to intervene--through the legal system--if a child is being neglected/abused.

I agree with that 100% and as a health care worker I am always watching out for signs of child abuse. On the flip side - they take it TOOO far.

710 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:51:30am
711 Geepers  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:51:41am

monkeytime (#681),

It is the ole libby "takes a village to raise a child" mentality. Meant for asshole parents who don't want/know how/care to take the time - to raise their own kids properly.

It Takes a Proverb to Run a Village

712 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:51:57am

re: #705 monkeytime

But they seem to be right on top of things:
Myths blunt Africa's fight against AIDS

"The myth that sex with a virgin is a cure for HIV/AIDS is one of many that make the fight against an epidemic that has struck 40 million people worldwide -- nearly two-thirds of them in sub-Saharan Africa -- even more difficult. "

Sad past that is true. And they also believe that infant rape also cures aids. This is a very sick and fucked up Continent.

713 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:52:14am

re: #702 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yes... but the libs want the village to replace the parents.

/That's the problem.

The UNCRC notion that CHILDREN should have input into setting laws blows my mind.

714 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:52:20am

re: #701 yma o hyd

Yep, and not just him.
Its been going on for years here, and its been introduced in small steps.
The amount of taxpayer's money spent on all that is staggering - and the outcome is dreadful.

as I've been mentioning a few days ago - Tony Blair, on whose watch this happened, thinks Obama is like himself, and Obama aims to do as Tony did, only better.
So watch out!

We've got horrific stories here too. Nixmary Brown in New York City. Here in Washington DC a mother killed all 3 of her kids - the oldest was 15 - after the family was supposedly being tracked by social services.

Obama IS like Blair - congenital liars, both of 'em. Americans of a conservative bent think they like Blair because of his support for the Iraq war - they have no idea of the man's hubris and talent for (self) deception.

715 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:53:09am

re: #709 monkeytime

I agree with that 100% and as a health care worker I am always watching out for signs of child abuse. On the flip side - they take it TOOO far.

Didn't Nazi Germany co-opt the parental role in raising kids?

716 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:53:32am

re: #712 Erik The Red

Sad past that is true. And they also believe that infant rape also cures aids. This is a very sick and fucked up Continent.


I couldn't have said it better. But do they use UN Condoms while raping virgins?
//

717 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:55:35am
718 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:55:48am

VX are you here?
Your turn!
When you can, you might as well go ahead and make your play and get this game over with.

In online scrabble, VX is 100 points ahead of the next nearest player (that would be moi).

This has been a pattern over several games now.

Fierce!
The good news is that I am at least sharpening my skills for home games with the Roi.

719 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:56:04am

re: #711 Geepers

monkeytime (#681),


It Takes a Proverb to Run a Village

LOL!

720 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:56:05am

re: #710 Iron Fist

Reagan didn't do it, except insofar as he appointed the functionaries who did it. The fairness Doctrine was enforced by the FCC. Apparently, the FCC decided that it was no longer desirable and so they voted it out of existance.

There were some Court Cases at the time, but the Court never ordered the Fairness Doctrine to end. Obama could order the FCC to begin enforcing it and, while I'm certain there would be lawsuits about the Constitutionality of it, there is nothing preventing the FCC for once again making it official policy.

I gurantee you there will be lawsuits pushed to the hilt this time.

The argument that there are a limited number of air-waves that belong to the public (the rationale behind it originally IIRC) would fly in the face of cable TV and the Internet. Would it, too, for satellite radio?

721 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:56:23am

re: #655 Erik The Red

BBJN (Be Back Just Now) We have people coming to look at the house. XXX fingers Lizards please.

Good Luck, E the R!

722 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:56:47am

re: #714 wahabicorridor

We've got horrific stories here too. Nixmary Brown in New York City. Here in Washington DC a mother killed all 3 of her kids - the oldest was 15 - after the family was supposedly being tracked by social services.

Obama IS like Blair - congenital liars, both of 'em. Americans of a conservative bent think they like Blair because of his support for the Iraq war - they have no idea of the man's hubris and talent for (self) deception.

Remember the little girl in Florida who just disappeared?

723 claspur  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:56:49am

re: #712 Erik The Red

Sad past that is true. And they also believe that infant rape also cures aids. This is a very sick and fucked up Continent.

It's hard to believe ppl are GD stoopid? Even before we knew as much as we know now.

724 gregg  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:56:51am

They told us if we elected Obama, the world would like us again. Well, maybe not:

Views of the US have improved modestly over the past year but remain predominantly negative, even though the poll was taken after President Obama’s election.

[snip]

Views of the US showed improvements in Canada, Egypt, Ghana, India, Italy and Japan. But far more countries have predominantly negative views of America (12), than predominantly positive views (6). Most Europeans show little change and views of the US in Russia and China have grown more negative. On average, positive views have risen from 35 per cent to 40 per cent, but they are still outweighed by negative views (43%, down from 47%).

From Don Surber

725 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:57:57am

re: #713 MandyManners

The UNCRC notion that CHILDREN should have input into setting laws blows my mind.

Well - roughly 53% of America apparently thinks that as well judging by the officials they elected and the forthcoming policies.

726 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 6:59:26am

re: #722 MandyManners

Remember the little girl in Florida who just disappeared?

I'm not sure which one you're referring to. Recently there was Casey Anthony and remember the Jessica girl buried alive?

But neither of those children were on a social services watch list.

727 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:00:21am

re: #725 monkeytime

Well - roughly 53% of America apparently thinks that as well judging by the officials they elected and the forthcoming policies.

I don't think the overwhelming majority had any idea about the UNCRC.

728 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:00:25am

re: #699 rightymouse

Wasn't Arlen Specter the one who originally came up with the 'magic bullet' theory in the JFK assassination?

I don't know. If so - that really would make Specter Gollum's asshole. I was happy to see the History Channel run a show revealing the lies of Oliver Stone's propaganda film. All hollywood lies.
The conspiracy is the real conspiracy.

729 VioletTiger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:00:39am

re: #720 MandyManners

I gurantee you there will be lawsuits pushed to the hilt this time.

The argument that there are a limited number of air-waves that belong to the public (the rationale behind it originally IIRC) would fly in the face of cable TV and the Internet. Would it, too, for satellite radio?

This will be the classic 'overstepping their bounds' scenario. The outcry and backlash would be enormous.

730 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:00:48am

re: #686 FrogMarch

Susan Collins
Olympia Snowe
Arlin Spector

feckless crapweasels

As far as I am concerned with their (rino) votes, calling this bi-patisan is a big fat lie!

731 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:00:55am

re: #726 wahabicorridor

I'm not sure which one you're referring to. Recently there was Casey Anthony and remember the Jessica girl buried alive?

But neither of those children were on a social services watch list.

This was a little, African-American girl who was under foster care.

732 Macker  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:01:18am

re: #716 monkeytime

I couldn't have said it better. But do they use UN Condoms while raping virgins?
//

Which probably have holes...


/Frak the UN!

733 monkeytime  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:01:38am

re: #727 MandyManners

I don't think the overwhelming majority had any idea about the UNCRC.

Good point but remember that it is hard for people to break away from Amerian Idol and other such distrations.

//

734 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:01:39am

re: #729 VioletTiger

This will be the classic 'overstepping their bounds' scenario. The outcry and backlash would be enormous.

That's why part of me would like to see CBBHO try to do it.

735 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:02:09am

re: #731 MandyManners

This was a little, African-American girl who was under foster care.

Oh Yeah! I DO remember that!

gah!

736 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:02:33am

re: #733 monkeytime

Good point but remember that it is hard for people to break away from Amerian Idol and other such distrations.

//

Bread and circuses!

737 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:03:10am

re: #730 Taqyia2Me

As far as I am concerned with their (rino) votes, calling this bi-patisan is a big fat lie!

It is a lie. But when has lying stopped the democrat media?
The unprofessional DNC in-the-tank press will run with it:
3 rinos = bi-partisan.

738 rightside  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:03:12am

I heard some talk yesterday on Fox about the census being taken from the Commerce dept., and given to rahm emanuel. The census has always been political, but wow is this going to get bad, when they start gerrymandering the congressional districts to keep them in power indefinitely.

That, and the ignorance of a good bit of the electorate will ensure that happens.

739 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:03:36am

re: #735 wahabicorridor

Oh Yeah! I DO remember that!

gah!

Wasn't she taken by someone who went to the foster home claiming to be a social worker? The investigation revealed that the real social workers lied repeatedly about visiting her foster home.

740 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:03:43am

Good morning all y'all - from a moderate (41 degrees, going up to 61 degrees) Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

741 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:04:17am
742 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:04:30am

re: #728 FrogMarch

I don't know. If so - that really would make Specter Gollum's asshole. I was happy to see the History Channel run a show revealing the lies of Oliver Stone's propaganda film. All hollywood lies.
The conspiracy is the real conspiracy.

I just checked. He was on the Warren Commission & the 'architect' of the magic bullet theory.

Doofus.

743 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:06:01am

re: #740 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a moderate (41 degrees, going up to 61 degrees) Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Hey RW. Good here sitting by the pool drinking scotch. Trying to solve the problems of the world. I think I will do a better job drinking.

744 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:07:05am

re: #740 realwest

Morning Real!

We are a balmy 49 today. (just looked, don't believe it myself).

Doing well here, how's yourself?

745 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:07:12am

Hey, do any of y'all have Michael Steele's e-mail addy (other than at the RNC where he's fired the entire staff)? I'm gonna have to look it up, but was hoping some of y'all might have it. If you do, could you please send it to me via e-mail (nic's in blue) so as to not violate Charles' rules?
Thankew!

746 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:07:23am
747 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:08:18am

re: #746 jcbunga

Who's Biden?

748 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:09:26am

re: #747 Walter L. Newton

Who's Biden?

The guy in front of Blinky in the order of succession.

749 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:09:44am

m>re: #743 Erik The Red
Good morning Erik - or, for your sake, hopefully evening!
I'd like to settle the problems of the world but for now just want to settle Sen's Collins and Stowe (Rino, Maine) and Sen. Specter (Rino, Pa) hash for them.

750 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:10:06am

re: #738 rightside

I heard some talk yesterday on Fox about the census being taken from the Commerce dept., and given to rahm emanuel. The census has always been political, but wow is this going to get bad, when they start gerrymandering the congressional districts to keep them in power indefinitely.

That, and the ignorance of a good bit of the electorate will ensure that happens.

I read it here, too.

Now, couple that with ACORN's infusion of cash--ACORN helped get Motor Voter passed.

That link to DTN.org notes that Cloward and Piven founded Human SERVE, another voting group.


The following is to American Thinker.
On voting rights, ACORN and its voter mobilization subsidiary, Project Vote, have been involved nationwide in efforts to grant felons the vote and lobbied heavily for the Motor Voter Act of 1993, a law allowing people to register at motor vehicle departments, schools, libraries and other public places. That law had been sought by Cloward and Piven since the early1980s and they were present, standing behind President Clinton at the signing ceremony.


ACORN's voter rights tactics follow the Cloward-Piven Strategy:


1. Register as many Democrat voters as possible, legal or otherwise and help them vote, multiple times if possible.
2. Overwhelm the system with fraudulent registrations using multiple entries of the same name, names of deceased, random names from the phone book, even contrived names.
3. Make the system difficult to police by lobbying for minimal identification standards.


In this effort, ACORN sets up registration sites all over the country and has been frequently cited for turning in fraudulent registrations, as well as destroying republican applications. In the 2004-2006 election cycles alone, ACORN was accused of widespread voter fraud in 12 states. It may have swung the election for one state governor.


ACORN's website brags: "Since 2004, ACORN has helped more than 1.7 million low- and moderate-income and minority citizens apply to register to vote." Project vote boasts 4 million. I wonder how many of them are dead? For the 2008 cycle, ACORN and Project Vote have pulled out all the stops. Given their furious nationwide effort, it is not inconceivable that this presidential race could be decided by fraudulent votes alone.


Barack Obama ran ACORN's Project Vote in Chicago and his highly successful voter registration drive was credited with getting the disgraced former Senator Carol Moseley-Braun elected. Newsmax reiterates Cloward and Piven's aspirations for ACORN's voter registration efforts:

SNIP

751 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:10:19am
752 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:10:36am

re: #744 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Hey LT! I'm doing ok, BP a tad too high, but other than that, just fine. How are you doing?

753 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:10:43am

re: #739 MandyManners

Wasn't she taken by someone who went to the foster home claiming to be a social worker? The investigation revealed that the real social workers lied repeatedly about visiting her foster home.

Rilya Wilson

754 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:10:50am

If the Republican were smart - they would have someone set up to run against Barney Frank. (yes I know liberal Boston) But everyone hates a financial moron. even liberals. Barney Frank is a miserable failure, a complete idiot, an inept financial disgrace - as he was the first domino in our housing market. How can he show his face? come on Republicans - find someone NOW to run against him.

755 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:11:31am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I posted a story about how long it takes NYC to change a light bulb in a street lamp as it shows just how fraked up city services can be.

Now, expand out a level and see the mindblowing offal that even Jimmy Dean would lay his hands upon - the porktastic stimulus package that does only one thing - stimulate government growth while contracting the private sector.

This is what the Democrats have to offer us - a government that can't even change a frakking light bulb, but which is seen as the answer to everything.

756 rightside  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:11:43am

re: #750 MandyManners

That's sad. Another 40 years in the minority. Or until Atlas shrugs.

757 jcbunga  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:12:18am

Time for pancakes here...global warming be damned

758 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:13:03am

re: #752 realwest

Hey LT! I'm doing ok, BP a tad too high, but other than that, just fine. How are you doing?

I think everyone's BP is up this morning.

Doing well here... gotta go to work in a few minutes, but otherwise can't complain.

759 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:13:28am

re: #746 jcbunga
and
re: #751 Erik The Red

Not looking to bust any LGFer's chops here, but y'all ought to try the Preview button as your Ha Ha's and your LMAO's all went waaay beyond the confines of the comment box; it days gone by that would roger the thread, although tech genius Charles has apparently figured out a way to avoid that now; it's nonetheless distracting to see that.
Thankew.

760 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:14:04am

re: #757 jcbunga

Time for pancakes here...global warming be damned

Real butter and Canadian maple syrup please. With bacon.

761 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:14:17am

Oh, and I need to clarify something about the need for votes.

The Senate needs 60 votes to bring that porktastic mess to the floor in a vote for cloture. If they don't get the 60 votes, the GOP has an effective filibuster in their hands.

Democrats currently have 58 votes. 57 if Kennedy wasn't available, but Reid summoned him from his sickbed because Reid needs all the votes he can get, and may not have enough RINOs to cover for him to get the vote through cloture.

Should the Democrats get their 60, it takes a simple majority to pass the porkgasm. No bipartisanship needed.

762 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:14:28am

Gotta' start laundry. bbiasec

763 lawhawk  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:14:50am

re: #760 Erik The Red

I don't dig on swine, so instead of the bacon, I'll have home fries! :)

764 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:15:18am
765 BignJames  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:16:01am

re: #760 Erik The Red

Real butter and Canadian maple syrup please. With bacon.

Wassa matta? You don't like Vermont maple syrup?

766 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:16:19am

re: #754 FrogMarch

Romney perhaps?

/I know, I know

767 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:16:26am

re: #763 lawhawk

I don't dig on swine, so instead of the bacon, I'll have home fries! :)

I respect you for not liking pig. But man it is DAMN NICE.

768 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:17:11am

re: #755 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I posted a story about how long it takes NYC to change a light bulb in a street lamp as it shows just how fraked up city services can be.

Now, expand out a level and see the mindblowing offal that even Jimmy Dean would lay his hands upon - the porktastic stimulus package that does only one thing - stimulate government growth while contracting the private sector.

This is what the Democrats have to offer us - a government that can't even change a frakking light bulb, but which is seen as the answer to everything.

That's the goal. The Neo-Marxist democrats despise the private sector, and they want to destroy it. They want a huge state work force that is under their control. In a nice union job where we can all be controlled minions of the state. (and - it will be akin to GM's sit and do nothing for 8 hours)
(btw - why do government jobs need to be unionized?)

769 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:17:25am

Saturday morning coffee with Nanzi Pelosi...

“We must have a bill [quickly],” she said, in a clear message to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), who has spent the past two days wrangling with moderates who want to cut proposed education funding for the states by as much as $50 billion.

They were SCREAMING that the TARP bill was passed TOO fast.

“These cuts are very damaging — [the House bill] was put together very carefully. ... The funding goes directly to school districts, they are stimulative because they maintain jobs instead of cutting jobs.”

How could have it been put together CAREFULLY if it was put together QUICKLY?

And I thought this bill created NEW jobs, not just maintained status quo (with the teachers union no less)?

“Washington seems consumed in the process argument of bipartisanship, when the rest of the country says they need this bill,” the California Democrat said, seeming to sweep aside the Obama administration initial desire to have broad GOP support for the plan.

Annoying little thing there, having to work with people who was elected by the citizens. And over half of the citizens of this country are against this bill. Is this the same math she used to calculate unemployment futures.

The new Senate cuts, if passed, “will do violence to the future,” said Pelosi, who is also pressing a reluctant Obama to repeal Bush administration tax cuts for the wealthy before they expire at the end of 2010.

"Violence to the future." Aren't these the folks that complained that for 8 years the Bush administration was using "fear" to run the country?

And on an aside, this woman has terrible speaking skills. Her word use and sentence structure is horrible.

Nanzi Pelosi

770 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:17:29am

re: #765 BignJames

Wassa matta? You don't like Vermont maple syrup?

Never had it. Ship it over and let me taste.

771 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:18:47am

re: #761 lawhawk

...

Should the Democrats get their 60, it takes a simple majority to pass the porkgasm. No bipartisanship needed.

the DNC press are already calling the sham "bi-partisan". with 3 Rino votes.

772 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:19:08am

re: #741 Iron Fist

I believe so. There are a lot of reasons why I don't think the Fairness Doctrine will fly right now. None of thoose may stop the Democrats who look at it as a potential win, even if they are only able to enforce it for a few years. The effects of the so-called "Assault weapons" ban was similar. While they didn't ban people from owning them, or even selling them, it did prevent their importation into the United States (You can thank Daddy Bush for that one). Certainly, after ten years, the ban ended, but the production lines in places like China and Germany had long since quit running because there was no real market for the guns other than the US civillian market. So your pre-ban weapons are still worth a stone fortune, especially some of the more esoteric guns.

It's going to be interesting to see what Obama does with his executive orders on that issue. The Democrats have to know that the AWB was the biggest reason they lost power to the Republicans in 1994.

If a suit is immediately brought to challenge the FD, can the plaintiff petition the court to halt implementation of the policy?

773 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:19:23am

If this were boxing:
The tax scofflaws, and their equally disturbing lack of charitable giving, of Geither, Daschle, Rangell, et al are like eye gouges.
The release of the Cole Mastermind is a kidney punch.
ACORN is a head butt.
The "Stimulus" package is a knee to the groin.
The "Fairness" Doctrine is a bite of flesh off the ear.

I always knew the dem/mfm/moonbat cabal was chock full of sore losers who would make even worser winners but, somehow, we have to defeat this stinking scurvy beast. (due apologies to cheap shot fighters, the scurvy and beasts...)

774 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:20:10am

re: #741 Iron Fist

The Fairness Doctrine will fly, soon, because Obama wants it, and he will get it.

775 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:20:12am

re: #771 FrogMarch

the DNC press are already calling the sham "bi-partisan". with 3 Rino votes.

Well, I can't speak for the other two, but at least one of the reasons Specter voted for this is because he got some help for his dairy farmers in there

776 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:20:58am

re: #769 Walter L. Newton

We spend too much money on education already. Until we get rid of the cancerous teacher's union - our education system will continue to be second rate - no matter how much tax payer money the democrats throw at it.

777 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:21:25am

Good morning Lizards. Day eighteen, America held hostage!

778 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:21:30am

re: #753 wahabicorridor

Rilya Wilson

I think Graham killed her.

779 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:22:03am

re: #754 FrogMarch
That's not a bad idea FrogMarch. But first things first.
Y'all remember when the House voted on the Pork Stimulus Bill and all 175 Republican members voted against it, we were called "partisan"? Well last night, the three Rino's Snowe, Collins and Specter voted for the Pork Stimulus bill and the MSM hailed it as "bi-partisan" EVEN THOUGH ALL THE DEMS VOTED FOR IT?
That's why I need Michael Steele's e-mail addy - I'd rather have the Dem's have an official Veto Proof Majority in the Senate, where they are all called and known as Dems, then be able to hide behind "bipartisanship" when everything goes to hell in a hand basket.
In essence, I'd like to know if Mr. Steele has any power, right or authority to make Collins, Snowe and Specter change their party affiliation to Democrat or Independent or Klingon or anything BUT Republican.

780 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:22:03am

re: #778 MandyManners

I think Graham killed her.

So do the cops.

781 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:22:04am

re: #777 opnion

Good morning Lizards. Day eighteen, America held hostage!

Hey opnion 2 days and 2 toes left.

782 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:22:12am

re: #756 rightside

That's sad. Another 40 years in the minority. Or until Atlas shrugs.

We don't have to wait for anyone. We can do something ourselves.

783 derbigdog  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:22:24am

re: #75 tommygum

Barney in ass-less chaps.

NOT funny. ;^)

784 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:22:59am

Smart campaigning, start acting like a candidate 3 months after the election.

Sen. John McCain took his most direct shot at President Barack Obama since the presidential campaign on Friday morning, using a Senate floor speech to criticize the president for mocking the Republican concerns over the massive economic stimulus package.

[Link: www.politico.com...]

785 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:23:20am

re: #779 realwest

I'd like to know if Mr. Steele has any power, right or authority to make Collins, Snowe and Specter change their party affiliation to Democrat or Independent or Klingon or anything BUT Republican.

No, he does not. Steele's job is two-fold: finding good candidates and fundraising.

786 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:23:25am

re: #758 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Ah sorry to hear you have to go to work; OTOH I'm glad you have a job to go to!

787 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:24:10am

re: #776 FrogMarch

We spend too much money on education already. Until we get rid of the cancerous teacher's union - our education system will continue to be second rate - no matter how much tax payer money the democrats throw at it.

Yep.

788 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:24:14am

re: #780 wahabicorridor

So do the cops.

She must have some psychopathic traits.

789 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:24:43am

re: #779 realwest

I like your idea. Snowe and Collins and Speter vote with the Democrats most of the time anyway - they ARE Democrats. So this thing is in no way "Bi-partisan".

The media know they are pulling a fast one. They know it's bullshit - but they cater to idiots who eat bon bons and watch Jerry Springer all day.

790 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:24:55am

re: #758 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I think everyone's BP is up this morning.

Doing well here... gotta go to work in a few minutes, but otherwise can't complain.

I wouldn't complain about going to work. I'll gladly take your place.

791 jaunte  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:25:20am

Crisis-mongering:
How the 'Buy American' clause in the stimulus package helped raise fears of a trade war, even though current law is actually more restrictive. So is the guy an amateur, or a saboteur? An amasaboteur?
[Link: patriotroom.com...]

792 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:25:26am

re: #784 Walter L. Newton

Smart campaigning, start acting like a candidate 3 months after the election.

Sen. John McCain took his most direct shot at President Barack Obama since the presidential campaign ever on Friday morning, using a Senate floor speech to criticize the president for mocking the Republican concerns over the massive economic stimulus package.

Edited for clarity.

793 abaleh  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:25:59am

re: #738 rightside

I heard some talk yesterday on Fox about the census being taken from the Commerce dept., and given to rahm emanuel. The census has always been political, but wow is this going to get bad, when they start gerrymandering the congressional districts to keep them in power indefinitely.

That, and the ignorance of a good bit of the electorate will ensure that happens.

In ancient Rome the census was sometimes used as a political tool, by switching citizens loyal to a certain faction between tribes, so as to have majorities in enough tribes to pass laws and elect magistrates.

794 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:26:41am

re: #784 Walter L. Newton

Smart campaigning, start acting like a candidate 3 months after the election.


[Link: www.politico.com...]

Almost like that was the agreement the "messiah" and the fighter pilot had all along...

795 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:26:54am

re: #769 Walter L. Newton

Pelosi's assertion that sending cash to school districts maintains jobs is really questionable. I thought that student enrollment was the primary factor.
They wanted to send cash to Milwaukee to build new schools, even though they are losing enrollment & have empty school buildings.

796 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:27:21am

re: #774 Walter L. Newton
Good morning Walter! I hate to disagree with you, but the FCC has declared the Fairness doctrine unconstitutional and regardless of what his Imperial Majesty may want, that's not going to change.

797 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:27:58am

re: #796 realwest

Good morning Walter! I hate to disagree with you, but the FCC has declared the Fairness doctrine unconstitutional and regardless of what his Imperial Majesty may want, that's not going to change.

But has Obama placed his people in the FCC yet? Once he does, watch that decision change...

798 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:28:58am
Now Online: 1,674
Logged in: 167

I am amazed how often the logged-in portion of "Now Online" is exactly 10%.

799 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:29:03am

re: #781 Erik The Red

Hey opnion 2 days and 2 toes left.

Yup, then my work will be done.

800 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:29:06am

re: #796 realwest

Good morning Walter! I hate to disagree with you, but the FCC has declared the Fairness doctrine unconstitutional and regardless of what his Imperial Majesty may want, that's not going to change.

When? Isn't such a declaration up to the courts?

801 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:29:16am

re: #775 wahabicorridor
Good morning {wahabi}! So Specter sold out the rest of the United States to get help for "his" Dairy Farmers?
Gotta find Mr. Steele's e-mail addy - there must be someway we can excommunicate or whatever those three fucking RINOS from our party.

802 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:30:02am

Quotation of the day from Chairman Obama...

"What has been lost is our sense of common purpose - our sense of higher purpose. And that's what we have to restore"

Pocket Obama (c) 2008

"It is an unofficial requirement for every American citizen to own, read, and to carry this book at all times. Printed in a size that easily fits into a pocket or purse, it is comprised of quotations borrowed from the President's speeches and writings. His guiding principle will enlighten the minds of the people and prepare the way for a new era of change.

In order to master the President's ideology, it is essential to study many of the basic concepts over and over again, and it is best to memorize important statements and apply them repeatedly. Learn earnestly and diligently.

Together we can bring about the next great chapter in the American story."

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

803 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:30:19am

re: #789 FrogMarch

Sad to say, I've had to write to the two esteemed lawmakers from Maine and explain that due to the burden of the new taxes they've now saddled me with, I will no longer be able to take my summer vacation, Christmas shopping trip, and weekend getaways to their state.
Which is particularly sad since the license plates for their state say "Vacationland" on them.
Oh well. Too bad, so sad.

804 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:30:49am

re: #785 wahabicorridor
Well then at least he can keep any RNC funds from going to them, right?

805 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:31:19am

re: #796 realwest

Good morning Walter! I hate to disagree with you, but the FCC has declared the Fairness doctrine unconstitutional and regardless of what his Imperial Majesty may want, that's not going to change.

Then sit back and don't worry about it.

806 Optimizer  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:31:23am

re: #746 jcbunga

Biden promises 'new tone' in U.S. foreign affairs
"America will not torture. We will uphold the rights of those we bring to justice,"

This guy just called referred to unlawful combatants captured on the battlefield as "those we bring to justice". Yeah, you could call that a "new tone". I guess...

Biden also promised that America will "act aggressively against climate change."

Maybe they should send Biden down to Antarctica to "aggressively" hunt himself up some "climate change". (Good luck with that, Joe!)

/ He'll probably just blabber something about jailing people for exhaling.

807 derbigdog  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:31:56am

re: #83 Attaboid

What is #10 Butch wax?

A Butch haircut was like a crew cut, but with the hair at the forehead a little bit longer than the rest. Butch wax was used to make that hair stand up straight.

808 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:32:14am

re: #802 Walter L. Newton

It is an unofficial requirement for every American citizen to own, read, and to carry this book at all times.

Coming soon. The audacity of mind crime.

809 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:32:24am

re: #791 jaunte
Good morning juante! I dibs amateur saboteur!

810 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:32:28am

re: #796 realwest

Good morning Walter! I hate to disagree with you, but the FCC has declared the Fairness doctrine unconstitutional and regardless of what his Imperial Majesty may want, that's not going to change.

But SCOTUS found the opposite.

811 jaunte  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:33:09am

re: #809 realwest

It could make a good O poster.

812 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:34:17am

re: #808 FrogMarch

Coming soon. The audacity of mind crime.

"I AM THE DEAD. By putting this pen to paper, I have sentenced myself to death. It is not a crime to write, but it is a thought crime to reflect on what you have written. The Party writes for us, and my job at the Ministry of Truth requires me to re-write what they have written. I do not write lies; I simply substitute one bit of nonsense for another. I correct the statements and the Ministry of Truth will see to it that no matter where the original statement appeared; newspaper, book, publication or film, these items will be destroyed and replaced with current copies. Everything fades away into this shadow-world where even the date of the current day will become uncertain."

(1984 - The Play (c) WLN)

813 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:34:30am

re: #779 realwest

Morning Real, I kinda doubt the Steele could force Snow, Collins & Specter out of the Party. They are elected as Republicans, but they can choose to switch.
IMO the best thing is to keep them in the party , so that if the Republicans can pick up some Senate seats, they will be voting to organize the Senate as Republican & get the Committee Chairs away from the Dem's.

814 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:34:49am

re: #795 opnion Morning opnion, yes, someone out here yesterday posted a link to a Milwaukee Newspaper which stated that the city is closing FIFTEEN (15) schools due to declining enrollments.

815 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:36:04am
816 iLikeCandy  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:36:16am

Nice to see everyone so cheery this morning.

817 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:36:18am

re: #803 Killer Tomato

Sad to say, I've had to write to the two esteemed lawmakers from Maine and explain that due to the burden of the new taxes they've now saddled me with, I will no longer be able to take my summer vacation, Christmas shopping trip, and weekend getaways to their state.
Which is particularly sad since the license plates for their state say "Vacationland" on them.
Oh well. Too bad, so sad.

Smile. A democrat loves you. Overwhelming taxation means you care.

I used to feel sorry for you folks in the deep blue Eastern states of entrenched left-wing taxation land. I still do. but now Colorado is heading in your direction , and soon I will be saying the same thing. ah - feel the hope and change.

818 Tigger2005  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:37:00am

Free money for all!

Will my bag of cash arrive by my mailbox today? I need a new microwave.

819 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:37:02am

re: #814 realwest

Morning opnion, yes, someone out here yesterday posted a link to a Milwaukee Newspaper which stated that the city is closing FIFTEEN (15) schools due to declining enrollments.

But Pelosi wants them to build more schools. The woman is a genius!

820 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:37:34am

re: #797 vxbush
Good morning {vxbush} - I'm not sure that Obama or any other president can fire commissioners and even if Obama WANTED the Fairness Doctrine, we'd hold up it's implementation until it got to the SCOTUS where they would declare it unconsitutional.
And hey, ya know the Fairness Doctrine might not be so bad; all the MSM outlets would then have to have balance and add Conservative commenters and shows!

821 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:37:54am

re: #804 realwest

Well then at least he can keep any RNC funds from going to them, right?

real, trust me on this. You do not want to fuck with Specter.

822 iLikeCandy  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:37:59am

By the way, are any Texans or Wyomingans here? How do you like your states? I'm thinking of moving.

823 jaunte  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:38:08am

re: #814 realwest

Someone must have watched 'Field of Dreams' too many times.
"If we build a school, the enrollment will come."

Come to think of it, that's the reasoning behind the light rail project here in Houston, (where actually buying a ticket is governed by the honor system.)

824 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:38:20am

re: #812 Walter L. Newton

(1984 - The Play (c) WLN)

Yikes. Prophetic writing ala Newton. (btw - very nice)

825 Optimizer  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:38:30am

re: #796 realwest

Good morning Walter! I hate to disagree with you, but the FCC has declared the Fairness doctrine unconstitutional and regardless of what his Imperial Majesty may want, that's not going to change.

The FCC works for his Imperial Majesty now, and His Imperial Majesty has not been shy about using his power to the fullest extent possible - even when the public is against what he's doing.

826 ArmyWife  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:38:41am

re: #815 ploome hineni

UNCLENCH YOUR FIST, dammit.

827 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:39:38am

re: #800 MandyManners
Mandy I saw reference and a link out here within the last week or so; one of the current commissioners was interviewed by (American Thinker? NRO?) and he said that shortly after he was appointed the commission itself delcared the Fairness doctrine unconstitutional and that decision was never challenged.

828 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:40:25am

re: #823 jaunte

Don't be silly, Jaunte! It's just another Jobs Program for Union Hacks. Union Construction Workers, Union Teachers, Union Janitors - Guaranteed raises for everyone!

/ Got out on the wrong side of the bed this morning

829 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:40:27am

re: #820 realwest

Good morning {vxbush} - I'm not sure that Obama or any other president can fire commissioners and even if Obama WANTED the Fairness Doctrine, we'd hold up it's implementation until it got to the SCOTUS where they would declare it unconsitutional.
And hey, ya know the Fairness Doctrine might not be so bad; all the MSM outlets would then have to have balance and add Conservative commenters and shows!

But they didn't before, when it was the law of the land, although they were less in the tank for one political party then. But when Vietnam could be messed over because Whatzisface from CBS decided that it was over, it was clear back then that "fairness" had nothing to do with it.

830 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:40:37am
831 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:41:03am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Another wintry day in the valley and I'm having a lazy day. Lil Miss has just had her scribbled eggs and she's snoring daintily on her favorite snozing spot on the ugly sofa with a round, full fuzzy belly.

832 jaunte  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:41:09am

re: #815 ploome hineni

"Open hand" lifting grandchildren's wallet.

833 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:41:12am

re: #803 Killer Tomato
Cool move! I think that's another way to go, but I'd druther see them drop the (R) after their names.

834 wahabicorridor  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:41:34am

re: #827 realwest

Mandy I saw reference and a link out here within the last week or so; one of the current commissioners was interviewed by (American Thinker? NRO?) and he said that shortly after he was appointed the commission itself delcared the Fairness doctrine unconstitutional and that decision was never challenged.

The FCC has no brief to rule on the constitutionality of anything. Only SOTUS does and they ruled the Fairness Doctrine constitutional in 1969.

/gotta hop - have a great day!

835 Maximu§  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:41:37am

Morning gang, I'm moving a little slow today.

836 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:42:01am

re: #800 MandyManners

When? Isn't such a declaration up to the courts?

1987.

FCC commissioner Robert McDowell had a message for Democrats, or anyone else contemplating trying to reimpose the fairness doctrine: The move could undermine the justification for existing localism and children's TV regulations, and could be used against public radio.

SNIP

He suggested the doctrine could be woven into the fabric of policy initiatives with names like localism, diversity or network neutrality. "According to some, the premise of any of these initiatives is similar to the philosophical underpinnings of the Doctrine: the government must keep electronic conduits of information viewpoint neutral," he said.

McDowell suggested that a stealth version of the doctrine may already be teed up at the FCC in the form of community advisory boards to help determine local programming. McDowell says he is fine with those boards if they are voluntary--some stations already seek such input. But that if they are required, as the FCC has proposed, "Would not such a policy be akin to re-imposition of the Doctrine, albeit under a different name and sales pitch?"

McDowell also said that efforts to reimpose the doctrine could stretch to cable, satellite, and even the Internet. "Certain legal commentators have suggested that a new corollary of the Doctrine should be fashioned for the Internet, on the theory that web surfers should be exposed to topics and views that they have not chosen for themselves," adding: "I am not making this up."

In a move obviously calculated to strike fear into the hearts of regulatory-minded Democrats, the same ones who have meen making noises about liking the fairness doctrine when it comes to reining in talk radio critics, McDowell had this:
"Actually, in a string of media cases stretching back over more than 20 years, various judges on the D.C. Circuit - both Democratic and Republican appointees - have suggested that it is time for the Supreme Court to rethink the concept of spectrum scarcity as a justification for limiting broadcasters' First Amendment rights.

"A revived Doctrine would provide a big, bright bulls-eye for those who wish to make that happen. That development would have implications far beyond the Doctrine itself. Much of our content regulation of broadcasters - including most of the FCC's existing localism rules and the regulations requiring three hours a week of children's programming - rest on the spectrum scarcity rationale. If that rationale is invalidated, serious legal challenges to all those other content rules may follow."

SNIP

837 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:42:16am

re: #831 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Good Morning Miss Trixie! I got to go back to work. Enjoy the day!

838 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:42:22am

re: #833 realwest

Yes, but I can't make them! LOL
All I can do is stop traveling there and leaving my money behind.

839 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:43:01am

re: #805 Walter L. Newton
I never have been worried about it Walter, was just reponding to some concerns expressed out here by other LGFer's.
Sorry to take you away from reading your little blue book.

840 akak  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:43:12am

re: #820 realwest

Good morning {vxbush} - I'm not sure that Obama or any other president can fire commissioners and even if Obama WANTED the Fairness Doctrine, we'd hold up it's implementation until it got to the SCOTUS where they would declare it unconsitutional.
And hey, ya know the Fairness Doctrine might not be so bad; all the MSM outlets would then have to have balance and add Conservative commenters and shows!

Just don't let Hannity lead the anti-fairness protest!

841 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:43:24am

re: #827 realwest

See my No. 836.

842 Scion9  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:43:29am

re: #796 realwest

Obama already came out against the Fairness Doctrine during the campaign. If the FCC including an Obama Chairman said that they feel it is unconstitutional then it will not be implemented. Or it might be more accurate to say that it will not be called the 'Fairness Doctrine', that way no one lied.

Regardless, the Fairness Doctrine already went to the SCOTUS during Eisenhower's administration I believe, and its constitutionality was upheld. The FCC can do what it wants with 'public' air. It's likely that today's court would not uphold that ruling, but not definite.

843 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:43:38am

re: #824 FrogMarch

Yikes. Prophetic writing ala Newton. (btw - very nice)

Er, some what. The show is my adaptation of George Orwell's boob 1984, so that speech (which is the opening of the book) is really a condensation of about 3 pages of dialog.

What I am trying to say, in that particular speech, none of those words are mine. Like any adaptation, my script is a mixture of original dialog and text from the book author.

I just wanted to give credit where credit is due.

844 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:44:28am

re: #832 jaunte

"Open hand" lifting grandchildren's wallet.

!
The Harry "this war is lost" Reid/Pelosi/Obama stimulus package of 2009 is:
"THE GRANDCHILDREN BANK ACCOUNT RAID OF 2009"

845 jaunte  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:44:29am

re: #822 iLikeCandy

By the way, are any Texans or Wyomingans here? How do you like your states? I'm thinking of moving.

You might like Central Texas. Look into the Fredericksburg area.

846 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:44:34am

re: #843 Walter L. Newton

boob = book

(dammit, now I know where this thread is going)

847 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:45:26am

Oh, they are predicting "thunder snow" after 9:00pm tonight.

848 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:45:36am

re: #827 realwest

Mandy I saw reference and a link out here within the last week or so; one of the current commissioners was interviewed by (American Thinker? NRO?) and he said that shortly after he was appointed the commission itself delcared the Fairness doctrine unconstitutional and that decision was never challenged.

A lot of the Dems must not be too impressed with that commission ruling, since they are talking about reinstituting it.
Debbie Stabenow, Senator from Michigan in a recent radio interview with Bill Press said that she wants hearings & would drag in people like Limbaugh & Hannity to testify. They really want the Fairness Doctrine.

849 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:45:49am
850 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:46:32am

re: #848 opnion

A lot of the Dems must not be too impressed with that commission ruling, since they are talking about reinstituting it.
Debbie Stabenow, Senator from Michigan in a recent radio interview with Bill Press said that she wants hearings & would drag in people like Limbaugh & Hannity to testify. They really want the Fairness Doctrine.

And did you know that said Stabenow's spouse is one of the folks who helped to start Air America? Can you see where this is going?

851 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:47:55am

Update... one of the review on Amazon for the Pocket Obama...

"I use the pages of this book to scratch my balls. It really does work miracles!"

Really. Pocket Obama - 55.95 plus 3.95 shipping. Review - priceless.

852 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:48:49am

re: #850 vxbush

And did you know that said Stabenow's spouse is one of the folks who helped to start Air America? Can you see where this is going?

Thank's for saying that, I forgot to mention it. Oh, the irony!

853 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:49:08am
854 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:49:22am

re: #849 MandyManners

I (again) screwed up making coffee and now have a cup that will put some titanium in your spine and razors in your brain.

That's not really a funny picture. The last time I saw a cat look like that, it's skin peeled back and it became a little demon, scooting around my apartment until I killed it with a mop. Nasty.

855 jcbunga  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:49:23am

re: #759 realwest

and
re: #751 Erik The Red

Not looking to bust any LGFer's chops here, but y'all ought to try the Preview button as your Ha Ha's and your LMAO's all went waaay beyond the confines of the comment box; it days gone by that would roger the thread, although tech genius Charles has apparently figured out a way to avoid that now; it's nonetheless distracting to see that.
Thankew.

Cool, will do. :)

856 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:49:53am

{realwest} Good morning, hon *smoochie-smooch* Glad to see you today - how are you?

aussie should be here soon to smooch your other bewiskered cheek. :D

reine - I love scrabble. Got a linky so that I can play too? Pretty please?

857 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:50:01am

re: #810 wahabicorridor
Ah yes, but from your link:

Toward the end of the Reagan administration, the FCC itself found the doctrine unconstitutional and discarded it.


[SNIP]

The doctrine is even more blatantly unconstitutional today than it was when the FCC repealed it 21 years ago. Whatever the vitality of the Red Lion rationale in 1969, the advent of the Internet along with other technological advances have rendered the notion of spectrum scarcity utterly obsolete. Anyone who has something to say can find a medium thats effectiveness is bound only by the desire of people to listen (and sometimes even that boundary does not limit speech). A president-elect who owes his record-breaking fundraising and electoral victory in large measure to new forms of communication cannot plausibly justify censorship of traditional media outlets.


Oh and btw, wasn't that case decided by the Warren Court? The MOST liberal Chief Justice in our history; compare and contrast to Justice Roberts - especially with Justice Ginsberg recovering from surgery (and I sincerely do wish her the best of luck) for pancreatic cancer? That leaves 8 justices, at least 5 of whom will follow Robert's lead on the case. I'm truly not worried about it at all.

858 iLikeCandy  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:50:10am

re: #845 jaunte

You might like Central Texas. Look into the Fredericksburg area.

Thank 'ee! Even though I'm a teacher and the thread below is ominous news about Texas schools, I'm seriously considering getting out of where I am.

859 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:50:43am

re: #811 jaunte
Hmmm - wonder what it would look like (hint, hint! LOL!)?

860 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:50:45am

re: #848 opnion

A lot of the Dems must not be too impressed with that commission ruling, since they are talking about reinstituting it.
Debbie Stabenow, Senator from Michigan in a recent radio interview with Bill Press said that she wants hearings & would drag in people like Limbaugh & Hannity to testify. They really want the Fairness Doctrine.

The Fairness Doctrine isn't constitutional. The left will have to drain all of the courts of any and all constitutionally guided jurists and replace them with fascist hacks. That is the real goal- then the "Fairness doctrine" (or whatever name the Stabinow's of this world slap on it) and other anti-free- speech mind-crime legislation will be enacted.

Pretty soon - it will be illegal to be a "Republican". It will be illegal to express ideas that go against he will of the state. This is crazy talk - but I have no doubt this is what the left drools over at night in their wicked dreams.

861 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:51:22am

re: #856 Miss Trixie

{realwest} Good morning, hon *smoochie-smooch* Glad to see you today - how are you?

aussie should be here soon to smooch your other bewiskered cheek. :D

reine - I love scrabble. Got a linky so that I can play too? Pretty please?

I'm damn glad you qualified which cheek you were talking about by detailing the fact that it was "wiskered."

862 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:52:26am

re: #853 ploome hineni

of course, (see my post above)

conflict of interest? true believer?

/ya think?

Oh, no desire to step on your post, sir; just pointing out the facts, as folks may not look upthread. I must admit I'm horrible about reading earlier in a thread when I come in late.

[mea culpa]

863 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:52:45am

re: #848 opnion

A lot of the Dems must not be too impressed with that commission ruling, since they are talking about reinstituting it.
Debbie Stabenow, Senator from Michigan in a recent radio interview with Bill Press said that she wants hearings & would drag in people like Limbaugh & Hannity to testify. They really want the Fairness Doctrine.

According to Wiki, she's married to Tom Athans, now the executive vice president of Air America.

864 jcbunga  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:53:19am

The Labrador likes pancakes...go figure.

So far, her list of don't-likes contains only pickles.

865 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:53:25am

re: #851 Walter L. Newton

Update... one of the review on Amazon for the Pocket Obama...

"I use the pages of this book to scratch my balls. It really does work miracles!"

Really. Pocket Obama - 55.95 plus 3.95 shipping. Review - priceless.


If I had balls, I'd not want that little book anywhere near them.

866 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:53:26am

re: #860 FrogMarch

The Fairness Doctrine isn't constitutional...

I'm a bit confused. I was law twice. How could of it been constitutional then and not now.

If they got it through once, reinstated it once, then they WILL find a way to bring it back.

Constitution be damned.

867 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:54:03am

re: #742 rightymouse

I just checked. He was on the Warren Commission & the 'architect' of the magic bullet theory.

Doofus.

If that's true - then Arlen Spector is a disgrace.

868 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:54:04am

re: #850 vxbush

And did you know that said Stabenow's spouse is one of the folks who helped to start Air America? Can you see where this is going?

Conflict of interest to the max!

869 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:54:29am
870 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:54:42am

re: #854 Walter L. Newton

That's not really a funny picture. The last time I saw a cat look like that, it's skin peeled back and it became a little demon, scooting around my apartment until I killed it with a mop. Nasty.

Ummm...what were you on?

871 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:54:49am

re: #860 FrogMarch

The Fairness Doctrine isn't constitutional. The left will have to drain all of the courts of any and all constitutionally guided jurists and replace them with fascist hacks. That is the real goal- then the "Fairness doctrine" (or whatever name the Stabinow's of this world slap on it) and other anti-free- speech mind-crime legislation will be enacted.

Pretty soon - it will be illegal to be a "Republican". It will be illegal to express ideas that go against he will of the state. This is crazy talk - but I have no doubt this is what the left drools over at night in their wicked dreams.

I would like to see very public, televised hearings & Obama forced to take sides. I do believe at that point a lot of BHO supporters may have buyers remorse.

872 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:54:53am

re: #813 opnion Well I understand that rationale, and it's not a bad one at all, but as I said in #779, " I'd rather have the Dem's have an official Veto Proof Majority in the Senate, where they are all called and known as Dems, then be able to hide behind "bipartisanship" when everything goes to hell in a hand basket."

873 Geepers  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:54:58am

MandyManners (#863),

According to Wiki, she's married to Tom Athans, now the executive vice president of Air America.

No conflict of interests there.

874 Scion9  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:55:11am

re: #848 opnion

A lot of the Dems must not be too impressed with that commission ruling, since they are talking about reinstituting it.
Debbie Stabenow, Senator from Michigan in a recent radio interview with Bill Press said that she wants hearings & would drag in people like Limbaugh & Hannity to testify. They really want the Fairness Doctrine.

The FCC's power of regulation is delegated by Congress. The talk of a Fairness Doctrine reimplementation by the Democrats would be an act of legislation, stripping the power from the FCC and giving it back to Congress.

As for the constitutionality of the original FD...
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It was upheld under the caveat that broadcasters 'were granted government licenses on a scarce radio spectrum'. The Fairness Doctrine was to prevent ideological monopoly over a technologically limited format.

I don't see why it couldn't be constitutionally reimplemented if the Democrats did it in a crafty enough fashion.

I'm not convinced that it is coming down the pipe, but I know for a fact that Obama, and Congressional Dems are not 'Liberals' in any sense of the word and that they don't give a damn about free speech, just the 'greater good'.

875 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:55:15am

re: #864 jcbunga

The Labrador likes pancakes...go figure.

So far, her list of don't-likes contains only pickles.

My producer, at the theatre, has three labs. Just in case you haven't got the memo THEY EAT ANYTHING.

I've never met a dog like a lab. The FIRST thing a lab does when it sees you is to check you out for food.

They are not even suave about it.

876 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:55:30am

re: #861 Walter L. Newton

I'm damn glad you qualified which cheek you were talking about by detailing the fact that it was "wiskered."

Ha! On this board I don't have a choice or I'd be thrown into the vat of jello for rogering the thread. :P

877 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:55:32am
878 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:55:40am

re: #856 Miss Trixie

{realwest} Good morning, hon *smoochie-smooch* Glad to see you today - how are you?

aussie should be here soon to smooch your other bewiskered cheek. :D

reine - I love scrabble. Got a linky so that I can play too? Pretty please?

Hi {darls}

I've been here for hours! Just reading stuff and I missed our {realwests} entrance :-)

Where is he? I'm in the mood for a smooch ot two :-)

879 jaunte  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:55:59am

re: #858 iLikeCandy

There are some excellent school districts in Texas, but those that tend to be less affected by the Don McLeroy types are mostly suburban districts around Houston and Austin. I like the dryer climate west of Austin, but my work is here in damp Houston.

880 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:56:22am

Mornin Lizards. With creationists, SteemYouLose package, and freed nukulah scientists on the loose, my joke and satire quotient is -2 this AM. But hey, a good drink and 18 holes later will medicate me pains.

881 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:56:24am

re: #863 MandyManners

According to Wiki, she's married to Tom Athans, now the executive vice president of Air America.

Which raises the qustion, if Air America was dominating the ratings, would Debbie Stabenow want hearings? Um, let me think.

882 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:56:29am

re: #868 MandyManners

Conflict of interest to the max!

Could we complain of a conflict of interest in regards to Obama. His interest in Marxism is certainly a conflict.

883 Scorch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:57:12am

re: #14 Dustyvet

I remember well all 25. Must say though that my life is more enjoyable now than my teens or twenties, well outside of some stressful problems now and then.

884 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:57:15am

Laundry calls. bbiasec

885 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:58:03am

re: #880 BigPapa

Mornin Lizards. With creationists, SteemYouLose package, and freed nukulah scientists on the loose, my joke and satire quotient is -2 this AM. But hey, a good drink and 18 holes later will medicate me pains.

You're digging 18 holes today? Fence line, outhouses?

886 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:58:20am

re: #877 ploome hineni

I don;t read upthread either..I provided the link to support your point

:)

Thankee, thankee...

887 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:59:03am

And, of course, Geepers piping up with the wiki info...

Must get some caffeine. Brain cells are not operating at peak efficiency.

888 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:59:04am

re: #874 Scion9

The FCC's power of regulation is delegated by Congress. The talk of a Fairness Doctrine reimplementation by the Democrats would be an act of legislation, stripping the power from the FCC and giving it back to Congress.

As for the constitutionality of the original FD...
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It was upheld under the caveat that broadcasters 'were granted government licenses on a scarce radio spectrum'. The Fairness Doctrine was to prevent ideological monopoly over a technologically limited format.

I don't see why it couldn't be constitutionally reimplemented if the Democrats did it in a crafty enough fashion.

I'm not convinced that it is coming down the pipe, but I know for a fact that Obama, and Congressional Dems are not 'Liberals' in any sense of the word and that they don't give a damn about free speech, just the 'greater good'.

You have really well stated the problem. Thats why I would want public hearings so that the public could see what they bought.
Hell, Obama has criticized the Constitution.

889 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:59:06am

NetFlix CEO admits that he is too stupid to spend his own money:

"Please Raise My Taxes"

I’M the chief executive of a publicly traded company and, like my peers, I’m very highly paid. The difference between salaries like mine and those of average Americans creates a lot of tension, and I’d like to offer a suggestion. President Obama should celebrate our success, rather than trying to shame us or cap our pay. But he should also take half of our huge earnings in taxes, instead of the current one-third.


Please cancel my account.

890 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:59:11am

re: #819 opnion
LOL! Well I received this by e-mail today and thought I'd share it with y'all:
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's home district includes San Francisco .
Star-Kist Tuna's headquarters are in San Francisco, Pelosi's home district.
Star-Kist is owned by Del Monte Foods and is a major contributor to Pelosi.
Star-Kist is the major employer in American Samoa employing 75% of the Samoan work force.
Paul Pelosi, Nancy's husband, owns $17 million dollars of Star-Kist stock.
In January, 2007 when the minimum wage was increased from $5.15 to $7.25, Pelosi had American Samoa exempted from the increase so Del Monte would not have to pay the higher wage. This would make Del Monte products less expensive than their competition's.
Last week when the huge bailout bill was passed, Pelosi added an earmark to the final bill adding $33 million dollars for an 'economic development credit in American Samoa '.
Pelosi has called the Bush Administration "CORRUPT" ? ?

How do you spell "HYPOCRISY" ? "

891 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:59:16am

Realwest

*Smooch*, left cheek as Miss trixie is here :-)

892 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:59:34am

re: #866 Walter L. Newton

I'm a bit confused. I was law twice. How could of it been constitutional then and not now.

If they got it through once, reinstated it once, then they WILL find a way to bring it back.

Constitution be damned.

That was back when we had like 2 radio stations or something. (I'm not sure)
The idea that we can make ideas "fair" is silly. If the left were honest about it - they would be terrified of the "Fairness doctrine". Because then ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, TIME, Newsweek, The New York Times, NPR, Air America etc... - would have to give equal time to "conservatives". We all know the left cannot stand that Rush is poplar - so they have to kill him. How is that constitutional? It's not. It's scary fascism 101.

893 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:59:39am

re: #878 aussiemagpie

Hi {darls}

I've been here for hours! Just reading stuff and I missed our {realwests} entrance :-)

Where is he? I'm in the mood for a smooch ot two :-)

Morning, toots! I last saw him giggling behind the potted palm waiting to surprise you when you arrive. Watch out!

894 Kronocide  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:59:51am

re: #885 Walter L. Newton

Oh, I'm sure I'll dig more than 18!

I see the Fairness Doctrine being discussed. Is it coming up again? That would be icing on the proverbial negative cake.

895 VioletTiger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 7:59:58am

re: #851 Walter L. Newton

Customer images for the pocket Obama. Love the Shillary one.
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

896 reine.de.tout  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:00:15am

re: #856 Miss Trixie

{realwest} Good morning, hon *smoochie-smooch* Glad to see you today - how are you?

aussie should be here soon to smooch your other bewiskered cheek. :D

reine - I love scrabble. Got a linky so that I can play too? Pretty please?

e-mail on its way.

897 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:01:55am
898 iLikeCandy  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:01:57am

re: #879 jaunte

There are some excellent school districts in Texas, but those that tend to be less affected by the Don McLeroy types are mostly suburban districts around Houston and Austin. I like the dryer climate west of Austin, but my work is here in damp Houston.

I had my eye on Austin, got connections there. Of course I can always stay in private schools, where I am now. Thanks.

899 jcbunga  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:02:11am

I did my taxes on Turbo Tax last weekend...just for grins I chose "Obama Cabinet Post" for occupation.

It crashed.

900 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:02:29am

re: #889 DistantThunder

Holy crap. No Netflix for me. No one is stopping this jerk from writing a huge check to the government. But no - he assumes that all others want to be fisted up the butt with taxes too.

Jerk.

901 iLikeCandy  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:02:49am

Gaaa! Just opened cupboard and coffee is out. How did I let this happen? Back much later, hope we all stay so amazingly cheery.

902 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:03:19am

re: #899 jcbunga

I did my taxes on Turbo Tax last weekend...just for grins I chose "Obama Cabinet Post" for occupation.

It crashed.

ROFLMFAO!

903 ciaospirit  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:03:25am

re: #704 Erik The Red

What is wrong with broken homes, starving people, aids, malaria, hepatitis, corruption and despots? Sounds good to me///

Add STDs and I believe you're talking about the outcome of the 60s movement.

904 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:03:26am

reine - thanksabunch.

905 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:03:44am

re: #892 FrogMarch

That was back when we had like 2 radio stations or something. (I'm not sure)
The idea that we can make ideas "fair" is silly. If the left were honest about it - they would be terrified of the "Fairness doctrine". Because then ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, TIME, Newsweek, The New York Times, NPR, Air America etc... - would have to give equal time to "conservatives". We all know the left cannot stand that Rush is poplar - so they have to kill him. How is that constitutional? It's not. It's scary fascism 101.

If Obama wants it, he will get it. I think we need to take these guys at their word, and work back from there.

Look at his first two-three weeks here in office. Nuff said.

906 vxbush  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:04:17am

Okay, I'll stop back in every so often, but I have a huge deskload of house finances that must be dealt with. Later, y'all.

907 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:04:45am

re: #838 Killer Tomato
Indeed, but you can circulate your letter to a LOT OF PEOPLE : freinds, relatives, folks on this Blog and other Blogs and suggest they do the same thing!BTW, SERIOUSLY - if you have the e-mail addy's please send them to me - my nic is in blue!

908 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:05:09am

re: #873 Geepers

MandyManners (#863),


No conflict of interests there.

re: #881 opnion

Which raises the qustion, if Air America was dominating the ratings, would Debbie Stabenow want hearings? Um, let me think.

re: #882 Walter L. Newton

Could we complain of a conflict of interest in regards to Obama. His interest in Marxism is certainly a conflict.

Wiki can be quite the useful tool.

909 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:05:27am

re: #836 MandyManners
Just excellent comment and link there, thank you.

910 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:05:46am

re: #889 DistantThunder

NetFlix CEO admits that he is too stupid to spend his own money:

"Please Raise My Taxes"


Please cancel my account.

There's no law forbidding him from giving however much he wants to the government.

911 Spiny Norman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:05:49am

re: #889 DistantThunder

NetFlix CEO admits that he is too stupid to spend his own money:

"Please Raise My Taxes"

I’M the chief executive of a publicly traded company and, like my peers, I’m very highly paid. The difference between salaries like mine and those of average Americans creates a lot of tension, and I’d like to offer a suggestion. President Obama should celebrate our success, rather than trying to shame us or cap our pay. But he should also take half of our huge earnings in taxes, instead of the current one-third.

Please cancel my account.

Nobody's stopping him from paying half his earnings. He just wants everyone else to pay through the nose, too, the arrogant f*ck.

912 MJ  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:06:02am

Report: Holocaust denier will review evidence

BERLIN – A bishop who faces a Vatican demand to recant his denial of the Holocaust said he would correct himself if he is satisfied by the evidence, but insisted that examining it "will take time," a German magazine reported Saturday.

Who the hell does this antisemitic piece of shit think he is? We have to prove to his satisfaction that the Holocaust happened?

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

913 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:06:14am

"In the space of time, all will be revealed. In the meantime, punt"

"Pocket Wally" (c) 2008

914 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:07:19am

re: #842 Scion9
Please see my #857.

915 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:07:47am

re: #909 realwest

Just excellent comment and link there, thank you.

Thanks!

I've been collecting links about the FD for a while because I think CBBHO will try to reinstute it even though it might not be names as such.

916 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:08:15am

re: #889 DistantThunder

NetFlix CEO admits that he is too stupid to spend his own money:

"Please Raise My Taxes"


Please cancel my account.

I have to say there is a part of me that is enjoying watching people who mindlessly worship Obama take a big *gulp* when they hear their salary and bonuses are going to be capped by Barney Frank.

917 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:08:18am

re: #867 FrogMarch

If that's true - then Arlen Spector is a disgrace.

I remembered reading about his involvement with the Warren Commission years ago. He became a Republican in later years, but I think it was out of 'convenience' or 'expediency' - not out of any real principled conviction. Sort of like Bloomberg. He's up for reelection in 2010. I hope he goes down this time.

918 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:08:35am

re: #912 MJ

Report: Holocaust denier will review evidence


Who the hell does this antisemitic piece of shit think he is? We have to prove to his satisfaction that the Holocaust happened?

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Wow. Talk about arrogance!

919 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:08:44am

re: #848 opnion
But Obama campaigned against reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine - please also see my #857.

920 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:08:50am

re: #893 Miss Trixie

Morning, toots! I last saw him giggling behind the potted palm waiting to surprise you when you arrive. Watch out!

Ok then, I'll just act surprised then... :-)

921 jcbunga  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:08:59am

I would throw in an extra buck if Netflix would just stop their f*ing pop up ads. I have 3 spam blockers running and can't avoid them.

922 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:09:03am

re: #905 Walter L. Newton

If Obama wants it, he will get it. I think we need to take these guys at their word, and work back from there.

Look at his first two-three weeks here in office. Nuff said.

I don't disagree. If the big baby wants it- the big baby is going to take it.

923 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:09:04am
924 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:09:49am

re: #919 realwest

But Obama campaigned against reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine - please also see my #857.

And Hitler promised not to ask any more countries to "move over, make way," scoot."

925 Scion9  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:09:59am

re: #857 realwest


Toward the end of the Reagan administration, the FCC itself found the doctrine unconstitutional and discarded it.


[SNIP]

The doctrine is even more blatantly unconstitutional today than it was when the FCC repealed it 21 years ago. Whatever the vitality of the Red Lion rationale in 1969, the advent of the Internet along with other technological advances have rendered the notion of spectrum scarcity utterly obsolete. Anyone who has something to say can find a medium thats effectiveness is bound only by the desire of people to listen (and sometimes even that boundary does not limit speech). A president-elect who owes his record-breaking fundraising and electoral victory in large measure to new forms of communication cannot plausibly justify censorship of traditional media outlets.

I don't think any of this matters, because any new FD isn't going to be implemented by the FCC, but by Congress so the FCC's thoughts on the subject are irrelevant, and the Internet, television, etc, have nothing to do with radio. The 'scarcity' of a spectrum didn't matter in '69 when televisions were even then very well proliferated.

The argument can still be made that if you are relying on the Internet or television to be in the know, you need a television, and for the internet you need a computer. This is discrimination against the poor and rural that don't have unfettered access. Radios and print are still the cheapest access to news and information. Every format must be judged individually, not collectively.

A supreme court flipping on stare decisis has certainly happened a lot, but a 'Conservative' court could just as easily go with the O'Connor school of not rocking the boat over actual constitutionality and let precedent stand.

926 ayatollah ghilmeini  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:10:22am

Get a Clue

Replying to a comment by a Frenchman outraged by Ali Larijani's saying there could be "different perspectives on the Holocaust" he was informed that Holocaust deonial was a crime in France

In Iran we don't have the same sensitivities.

No they don't. The article points out helpfully that he made his remarks in Munich and that he is considered a "moderate." Fortunately, General James Jones, bearer of the oxymoronic title of National Security Adviser to Barack Obama was on hand to personally witness the fun. If the General was taking notes, Larijani also blamed everything America has done for the last 60 years as the reason they don't like us.

The species of Totalitarian Man never evolves. They start with a fanatic radical ideology. They gain power. They kill people in the name of their ideology until overthrown or collapse. Here the beast was on display for all to see. Even Germany admits the Holocaust happened; modern Germans live in reality. Larijani's comment was a call for Germany to "get back in the game" and encouragement to fellow antisemites everywhere. It thumbed the regime's nose to the western world and displayed a unique and perverse twist in how Iran works- they act even when those they claim to want to help just assume they stayed out. Most Palestinians want nothing to do with Iran, that does not stop Iran from helping. With 1200 Palestinians are dead and thousands of buildings destroyed, Iran is racing to ship in more help! What a swell bunch of guys. Even though Germany wants peace and respectful bilateral relations with Israel, Larijani, reaches out to the remaining malignant fringes of German society inviting Germany to return to the old ways and the bad old days.

If I were Netanyahu, assuming I win the election, I would give Iran a hard and fast ultimatum and a short time to return to the fold of normal humanity. I would warn Hamas, Syria and Hezbollah to cut all ties with Iran or face a war that they will lose and a war that will end with the surviving leaders spending the rest of their lives in prison. I would tell Iran that Israel holds Iran responsible for anything and everything Hezbollah and Hamas has done over the last four years. I would send them a bill for the damage and losses to Israel from the last two wars and given them 72 hours to pay or get paid back in spades. I would tell them that Israel will begin sinking any ship that touches an Iranian port and that Iran must either allow the supervised dismantlement of their nuclear program or Israel will do it on an unsupervised basis, the cost to Iran and its people be damned.

You have to know how to talk to these people. Sine the only Navy capable of doing anything about this is the US fleet, Iran's trade would go almost to zero. No shipping company would go there- the insurance companies would forbid it. But these are words of war. The great likelihood is Iran would hit out with everything they have, especially terror all over the world.

War with Iran is destined to happen, the only question is when and whether they will fight the west with nuclear weapons or not. The question is only how many people will die. Read the quote above- the dangerous man who uttered those words is one of the most powerful men in Iran. We are already at war with them, when they shout Death to America! Death to Israel! They mean to kill you and they mean to kill American Jews doubly so. It is who they are.

I have studied totalitarian societies for over thirty years; Iran's regime are a casebook example of the disease. They have been killing people from the moment they came to power and they will keep killing people until they are destroyed.

927 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:10:26am

re: #856 {Miss Trixie} Hey, good morning gorgeous and a *smooch* back to you - how are ya doing today?

928 jaunte  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:11:06am

re: #890 realwest


In January, 2007 when the minimum wage was increased from $5.15 to $7.25, Pelosi had American Samoa exempted from the increase so Del Monte would not have to pay the higher wage.

I remembered that story and have been wondering if the Pelosis would try to get American Samoa exempted from the 'card-check' provisions, too, but haven't found any reporting on it.

929 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:11:07am
930 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:11:32am

re: #899 jcbunga

I did my taxes on Turbo Tax last weekend...just for grins I chose "Obama Cabinet Post" for occupation.

It crashed.

LOL. If we all click on the "I'm in the Obama administration" - we ALL get a tax holiday! weee.

931 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:12:36am

re: #860 FrogMarch
"Pretty soon - it will be illegal to be a "Republican". It will be illegal to express ideas that go against he will of the state. This is crazy talk - but I have no doubt this is what the left drools over at night in their wicked dreams." LOL! I think the crazy talk of another American Revolution is also crazy talk, but have no doubts at all that this is what the right drools over at night in their righteous dreams!

932 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:14:29am

re: #923 ploome hineni

delay delay delay

60 years of evidence is not enough?

(taking bets his offer is accepted..in 6 month the issue is forgotten, or IF REMINDED, he complains about being harassed and victimized...by GUESS WHO?)

Plain, bold, in you face, fuck you to the world from the priest. Give him the internet and 8 hours, he should be able to find anything he needs for proof. I'll take the motherfucker on a guided tour, I take him to some archives in Warsaw that are not open to the general public, i'll...

The idiot lives in Europe, a few hours from all the ground zeros of the holocaust. It's a fucking day trip to all the proof he needs.

933 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:14:36am

re: #919 realwest

But Obama campaigned against reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine - please also see my #857.

Re-read my No. 836. He can name it something else. He can approach it with other "concerns" in mind. But, as that article suggests, the technology has changed so much that the "scarcity" justification cited in Red Lion Broadcasting has disappeared. It's also suggested in this article.

934 FrogMarch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:16:00am

re: #869 ploome hineni

as apposed to now, where being CALLED a racist or bigot is a worse crime than shooting Granny?

speech and idea control now, is frightening

look at what happened to Larry SUmmers

felled by "political correctness is the new McCarthyism. "

The Larry Summers episode was really scary - and truly eye-opening and astonishing. A glimpse into left-wing fascist America. His entire career ruined because a sensitive left-wing feminist idiot cried after he stated something that was totally true.

935 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:16:01am

re: #929 ploome hineni

but the Cardinal is satisfied with the evidence OF A VIRGIN BIRTH?

But they have been talking about the virgin birth for 2000 years. The holocaust only happened 65 years ago or so. History trumps facts.
/s

936 Spiny Norman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:16:13am

re: #905 Walter L. Newton

If Obama wants it, he will get it. I think we need to take these guys at their word, and work back from there.

Look at his first two-three weeks here in office. Nuff said.

Obama does not need an Act of Congress to reinstate the so-called "Fairness Doctrine", just order the FCC to change the rules. Simple as that. And don't fool yourself into thinking Air America, Pacifica Radio, or NPR will have to make room for "conservatives"; the whole point is to pressure the radio station management to drop syndicated shows like Limbaugh, Hannity, Levine, Ingraham, Savage, et al, to avoid the hassle of providing "equal time" to boring leftist knuckleheads no one wants to listen to (and will change the channel instead). They have no real interest in "fairness", they just want to stop the noise from the opposition.

If a "Fairness Doctrine" is reinstituted, expect huge growth in Spanish-language radio, as broadcasters switch to a profitable medium that doesn't have so many strings attached.

937 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:16:31am

re: #925 Scion9

The 'scarcity' of a spectrum didn't matter in '69 when televisions were even then very well proliferated.

Scarcity was the key justification for Red Lion Broadcasting.

938 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:17:25am

re: #927 realwest

Hey, good morning gorgeous and a *smooch* back to you - how are ya doing today?

Can't complain. I'm in a lazy mode today so I'll probably catch up on my reading, maybe do a little cooking. I'm jonesing for a nice beef and barley soup so that'll keep me occupied this afternoon.

Perhaps I'll make a zippy tomato sauce too ...

939 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:17:32am

re: #919 realwest

But Obama campaigned against reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine - please also see my #857.

Obama campaigned on a lot of things. No lobbyist!, unless of course he set exceptions. No rendition! well unless we need to. No agressive interrogaton techniques! unless of corse it"s needed.
I do agree with you about the courts though, wouldn't cut the muster.

940 MJ  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:17:38am

re: #932 Walter L. Newton

Plain, bold, in you face, fuck you to the world from the priest. Give him the internet and 8 hours, he should be able to find anything he needs for proof. I'll take the motherfucker on a guided tour, I take him to some archives in Warsaw that are not open to the general public, i'll...

The idiot lives in Europe, a few hours from all the ground zeros of the holocaust. It's a fucking day trip to all the proof he needs.

I think he lives in Argentina which shouldn't matter one iota. He's a piece of crap and the longer the Vatican keeps this garbage around, the more of it's own moral authority it's pissing away.

941 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:19:36am

re: #907 realwest

real - like most elected officials nowadays, you can email them through their senate website, but only if you have a correct zip code (ie you live in their district/state).
I had to use fax and follow it up with snailmail.

942 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:19:40am

re: #940 MJ

I think he lives in Argentina which shouldn't matter one iota. He's a piece of crap and the longer the Vatican keeps this garbage around, the more of it's own moral authority it's pissing away.

My mistake. The article is dateline BERLIN and so much talk has been about him and Germany. What the hell is he doing in Argentina, hiding with the other Nazi's?

943 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:19:51am

re: #936 Spiny Norman

Obama does not need an Act of Congress to reinstate the so-called "Fairness Doctrine", just order the FCC to change the rules. Simple as that. And don't fool yourself into thinking Air America, Pacifica Radio, or NPR will have to make room for "conservatives"; the whole point is to pressure the radio station management to drop syndicated shows like Limbaugh, Hannity, Levine, Ingraham, Savage, et al, to avoid the hassle of providing "equal time" to boring leftist knuckleheads no one wants to listen to (and will change the channel instead). They have no real interest in "fairness", they just want to stop the noise from the opposition.

If a "Fairness Doctrine" is reinstituted, expect huge growth in Spanish-language radio, as broadcasters switch to a profitable medium that doesn't have so many strings attached.

I hope he tries to reinstate it now, with the current make up of the court on the side of freedom. There is no way the court could ignore the technological advances that render the "scarcity" justification mute.

944 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:20:05am

re: #874 Scion9
Sigh. I guess you weren't impressed by my #857.
Oh well, too bad.
And I've had it with this bs talk about the fairness doctrine - who gives a damn when we've had the first of what I am sure will be at least two Pork bills shoved down our throats, bills that will do precious little to stimulate the economy, and all because of three RINOS.
Oh, but be careful - wahabi warned me not to fuck Arlen Specter - or maybe it was fuck with Arlen Specter, as if that idiot could hassle me at all without great peril to himself. I don't live in Pa and I'm not a dairy farmer, so he, Collins and Snowe could all take a rowboat to China for all I care!

945 caliredst8r  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:20:12am

re: #890 realwest

"Paul Pelosi, Nancy's husband, owns $17 million dollars of Star-Kist stock."

There's a joke in there somewhere and I'm resisting the urge!

946 SFGoth  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:20:28am

re: #937 MandyManners

Scarcity was the key justification for Red Lion Broadcasting.

I have to make two observations. First, with the availability of the internet, this really only affects people with traditional radios who can't get XM, etc. Second, I think that being forced to have liberals on would actually be a boon because you'd have some loser, who couldn't succeed on Air hArmerica (because no one could) and either no one will still listen to him/her and/or the conservative who follows will have a ton of cannon fodder.

947 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:21:00am

re: #938 Miss Trixie

Perhaps I'll make a zippy tomato sauce too ...

*ahem*

948 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:21:23am

re: #945 caliredst8r

"Paul Pelosi, Nancy's husband, owns $17 million dollars of Star-Kist stock."

There's a joke in there somewhere and I'm resisting the urge!

I guess this could be really be called "sleeping with the fishes." There, I did it for you.

949 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:21:35am

re: #944 realwest

Sigh. I guess you weren't impressed by my #857.
Oh well, too bad.
And I've had it with this bs talk about the fairness doctrine - who gives a damn when we've had the first of what I am sure will be at least two Pork bills shoved down our throats, bills that will do precious little to stimulate the economy, and all because of three RINOS.
Oh, but be careful - wahabi warned me not to fuck Arlen Specter - or maybe it was fuck with Arlen Specter, as if that idiot could hassle me at all without great peril to himself. I don't live in Pa and I'm not a dairy farmer, so he, Collins and Snowe could all take a rowboat to China for all I care!

Ummm...dissenting voices will be shut down. It matters a lot.

950 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:22:27am

Hold it! Drop everything, big news. CNN is repoting that A Rod tested positive for steroids in 2001! However usage was not illegal until 2003, so why is this news?

951 MJ  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:22:40am

re: #942 Walter L. Newton

My mistake. The article is dateline BERLIN and so much talk has been about him and Germany. What the hell is he doing in Argentina, hiding with the other Nazi's?

Yeah, that was exactly the same thought I had too. While the US has statue which says "Give us your tired and poor", Argentina must have a statue which says, "send us your Nazis".

952 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:22:46am

re: #946 SFGoth

I have to make two observations. First, with the availability of the internet, this really only affects people with traditional radios who can't get XM, etc. Second, I think that being forced to have liberals on would actually be a boon because you'd have some loser, who couldn't succeed on Air hArmerica (because no one could) and either no one will still listen to him/her and/or the conservative who follows will have a ton of cannon fodder.

Where in the First Amendment is there an exception?

953 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:22:47am

re: #911 Spiny Norman

Nobody's stopping him from paying half his earnings. He just wants everyone else to pay through the nose, too, the arrogant f*ck.

Here's the irony: Remember in the days of the "evil Capitalists" like Carnegie, those men made enormous contributions to society. parks, and schools and libraries, and arts.

So this guy sounds like he is incurious, and unimaginative about the type and amount of good he could do in the world.

954 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:22:53am

re: #878 aussiemagpie
Ah, hi there {Gabby} I'm here, ready for my *smooches* and sending a bunch of 'em your way first!
Hey, I heard on the news this morning (after the talk of the bipartisan support for the great giveway bill) about ENORMOUS fires in Australia - are you near them, do you have any information on 'em you could share with us?

955 jaunte  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:23:09am

re: #943 MandyManners

I wonder if a 'point-counterpoint' formatted show would satisfy a potential 'Fairness' doctrine. It would be entertaining to listen to five minutes of Rush Limbaugh dissecting five minutes of Amy Goodman.

956 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:23:48am

re: #759 realwest

and
re: #751 Erik The Red

Not looking to bust any LGFer's chops here, but y'all ought to try the Preview button as your Ha Ha's and your LMAO's all went waaay beyond the confines of the comment box; it days gone by that would roger the thread, although tech genius Charles has apparently figured out a way to avoid that now; it's nonetheless distracting to see that.
Thankew.

Was done on purpose.

957 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:23:51am

re: #931 realwest

"Pretty soon - it will be illegal to be a "Republican". It will be illegal to express ideas that go against he will of the state. This is crazy talk - but I have no doubt this is what the left drools over at night in their wicked dreams." LOL! I think the crazy talk of another American Revolution is also crazy talk, but have no doubts at all that this is what the right drools over at night in their righteous dreams!

Would you put an anti-Obama or even a pro-republican bumpersticker on your car? I had my car vandalized in DC with a Bush bumpersticker in 2002.

958 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:24:28am

re: #953 DistantThunder

Here's the irony: Remember in the days of the "evil Capitalists" like Carnegie, those men made enormous contributions to society. parks, and schools and libraries, and arts.

So this guy sounds like he is incurious, and unimaginative about the type and amount of good he could do in the world.

The Nanny State can do that to people.

959 VegasRick  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:24:34am

re: #955 jaunte

I wonder if a 'point-counterpoint' formatted show would satisfy a potential 'Fairness' doctrine. It would be entertaining to listen to five minutes of Rush Limbaugh dissecting five minutes of Amy Goodman.

"Jane, you ignorant slut".

960 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:24:48am

re: #947 Killer Tomato

*ahem*


lol!

961 Spiny Norman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:24:55am

re: #943 MandyManners

I hope he tries to reinstate it now, with the current make up of the court on the side of freedom. There is no way the court could ignore the technological advances that render the "scarcity" justification mute.

Proponents of it do not expect a case to ever go to court, as radio station management is notoriously controversy-averse, and will avoid trouble at all cost. Controversy annoys advertisers.

Besides, with the notable exception of Rush Limbaugh's show, Spanish-language programming is a more profitable medium anyway.

962 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:25:24am

re: #955 jaunte

I wonder if a 'point-counterpoint' formatted show would satisfy a potential 'Fairness' doctrine. It would be entertaining to listen to five minutes of Rush Limbaugh dissecting five minutes of Amy Goodman.

This won't stop at radio.

963 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:25:45am

re: #896 reine.de.tout
Hey {reine} thank you kindly! How are you doing today?

964 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:25:52am

peeps just left looks promising xxx fingers/toes/arms and legs.

965 Scion9  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:25:55am

re: #919 realwest

But Obama campaigned against reinstituting the Fairness Doctrine - please also see my #857.

If it wasn't called the Fairness Doctrine, and wasn't implemented by the FCC, then Obama did not lie, and delivered on his promise. What he didn't do was campaign on a bohemian lack of censorship.

The Soros funded McCain-Feingold has provisions in it to censor the Internet (You didn't make a negative comment about Obama on the internet did you? That is a campaign contribution to McCain.), and Obama is on the record as being 'worried' about "Internet Balkanization" and doesn't believe that the Internet should be unregulated.

If censorship and regulation of the Internet is being kicked around under the auspices of morality, responsibility and accountability, I don't see how radio would somehow be immune to those same considerations using the same justifications. If any thing, it would be the test case and an easier target to boot.

Again, I'm not overly fearful of this happening soon, but the fact that so many powerful people so obviously want it to happen despite massive public opinion in the other direction should be a cause of concern. It is far from impossible from being implemented, regardless of lay interpretations of the Constitution.

When the 1st Amendment was written there was no radio, television, or Internet. What qualifies as 'The Press' still is pretty much up in the air as far as the Internet goes, and what right a private citizen has to new technology to speak freely also is very much up in the air.

966 NYCHardhat  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:26:01am

This is under one of the top links.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

967 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:26:20am

re: #949 MandyManners

What she said.
The only way any of this total BS is being exposed is through talk radio and blogs. If we reach the point where we need to break out the giant puppets and paper mache and take to the streets, how are we supposed to get the word out? We all going to email each other? We don't have the organizations and networks like the left spent years building, we were all too busy working, raising families, paying taxes, and generally keeping the country running.
They pretty much control the rest of the media. Talk radio / the internet is pretty much the only voice we have - hence, they want to shut it down.

968 Caliredst8r  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:26:34am

re: #948 Walter L. Newton

I was thinking more in the line of "that's a door off a tuna boat".

969 Miss Trixie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:26:37am

re: #947 Killer Tomato

*ahem*

*pinch*

*squeeze*

:D

970 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:26:51am

re: #957 DistantThunder

Would you put an anti-Obama or even a pro-republican bumpersticker on your car? I had my car vandalized in DC with a Bush bumpersticker in 2002.

Hell , I had my McCain - Plain yard sign vandalized twice.
A bumper sticker woul have beenm a good way to gey keyed.

971 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:27:05am

re: #961 Spiny Norman

Proponents of it do not expect a case to ever go to court, as radio station management is notoriously controversy-averse, and will avoid trouble at all cost. Controversy annoys advertisers.

Besides, with the notable exception of Rush Limbaugh's show, Spanish-language programming is a more profitable medium anyway.

I hope Rush and the rest of the conservative voices fight back.

972 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:27:07am
973 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:27:37am
If censorship and regulation of the Internet is being kicked around under the auspices of morality, responsibility and accountability, I don't see how radio would somehow be immune to those same considerations using the same justifications. If any thing, it would be the test case and an easier target to boot.


Funny how the left refuses to use the same arguments of morality, responsibility and accountability when it comes to not spreading hosts of STD's.

974 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:27:47am

re: #946 SFGoth

I have to make two observations. First, with the availability of the internet, this really only affects people with traditional radios who can't get XM, etc. Second, I think that being forced to have liberals on would actually be a boon because you'd have some loser, who couldn't succeed on Air hArmerica (because no one could) and either no one will still listen to him/her and/or the conservative who follows will have a ton of cannon fodder.

But also consider that currently, our traditional media has been compromised, by economics, by biased journalist, by a number of factors that have shaken the foundation of what we have known as the media.

It's sick, the media, and it's weak, and that's a perfect time for government to rush in to "save" it. And that's the direction that I think they will take. They are trying to save traditional media, newspapers, radio stations.

It will all come under the rubric of this "stimulus" idea, which I believe will be the jumping off point of a lot of changes in the future.

They will use the economy as an excuse to change this and change that and help this out and help that out. It's sort of like having the grand answer to everything. The unification theory of government.

Watch.

975 jaunte  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:27:55am

Political life finds a way around barriers.

976 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:28:05am

re: #912 MJ
Fuck him. He's nothing more than a pimple on the ass of mankind.

977 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:29:33am

re: #912 MJ

Report: Holocaust denier will review evidence

Who the hell does this antisemitic piece of shit think he is? We have to prove to his satisfaction that the Holocaust happened?

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

I heard him in a speech played this week on the radio saying that he thought the only about 300,000 jews were murdered. That's would be a holocaust in anyone's book.

978 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:29:58am

re: #976 realwest

Fuck him. He's nothing more than a pimple on the ass of mankind.

You are learning from MM or me. Well said.

979 jwb7605  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:30:09am

several comments just got deleted.
Somebody is up and awake ...

980 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:30:20am

re: #915 MandyManners
Well I'm very grateful you've been collecting those links; I personally don't see Obama trying to reinstate it - he made WAAAY too much money off the Internet and Radio ads to want to re-open it, but it's nice to know that you're a reference guide should he ever do so. Very Serious about that too. Thank you, again.

981 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:30:42am

re: #965 Scion9

The Soros funded McCain-Feingold has provisions in it to censor the Internet (You didn't make a negative comment about Obama on the internet did you? That is a campaign contribution to McCain.), and Obama is on the record as being 'worried' about "Internet Balkanization" and doesn't believe that the Internet should be unregulated.

From my No. 836:

McDowell also said that efforts to reimpose the doctrine could stretch to cable, satellite, and even the Internet. "Certain legal commentators have suggested that a new corollary of the Doctrine should be fashioned for the Internet, on the theory that web surfers should be exposed to topics and views that they have not chosen for themselves," adding: "I am not making this up."

Nanny State!

982 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:31:04am

Mark Steyn - Obama Mythology...

So how's that going? Jesus took a handful of loaves and two fish and fed 5,000 people. Barack wants to take a trillion pieces of pork and feed it to a handful of Democratic Party interest groups. Jesus picked twelve disciples. Barack seems to have gone more for one of those "Dirty Dozen" caper-movie lineups, where the mission is so perilous and so audacious that only the scuzziest lowlifes recruited from every waterfront dive have any chance of pulling it off. The ends justify the mean SOBs: "Indispensable Tim" Geithner, wanted in 12 jurisdictions for claiming his kid's summer camp as a business expense, is the only guy with the savvy to crack the code of the U.S. economy. Tom "Home, James!" Daschle is the ruthless backseat driver who can figure out how to steer the rusting gurney of U.S. health care through the corridors of power. Charles Bronson is the hardbitten psycho ex-con who can't go straight but knows how to turn around the Department of the Interior.

I love Mark Steyn...he lives his life by one of my mottos: "It's better to be a smartass than a dumbass

983 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:31:17am

We're too fucking stupid to find our own information, right CBBHO?

984 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:31:27am

re: #979 jwb7605

several comments just got deleted.
Somebody is up and awake ...

Good morning Charles and Stinky.

985 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:32:14am
986 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:32:15am

re: #984 Erik The Red

Good morning Charles and Stinky.

One of your comments got the stick.

987 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:32:29am

re: #969 Miss Trixie

*pinch*

*squeeze*

:D

Hey! Watch it there - I'm not that kind of girl.
;-)

988 NYCHardhat  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:32:39am

re: #983 MandyManners

We're too fucking stupid to find our own information, right CBBHO?

No. He knows that the information that we will find is the information he doesn't want us to find.

989 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:32:58am

This is off of topic, what is our topic?
Did ya notice that speaking at teh Dem retreat last week, Obama said that he had been to every state , well except for Alaska.
Narf narf ,they all laughed,.Anothe slap at Palin.
BTW, I was wrong, A Rod tested positive for steroids in 03.

990 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:33:09am

re: #980 realwest

Well I'm very grateful you've been collecting those links; I personally don't see Obama trying to reinstate it - he made WAAAY too much money off the Internet and Radio ads to want to re-open it, but it's nice to know that you're a reference guide should he ever do so. Very Serious about that too. Thank you, again.

What's to stop him from making money off of those again? The new FD can be constructed to get around any limitations.

991 Erik The Red  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:33:22am

re: #986 Walter L. Newton

One of your comments got the stick.

Which one and why?

992 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:34:04am

re: #954 realwest

Ah, hi there {Gabby} I'm here, ready for my *smooches* and sending a bunch of 'em your way first!
Hey, I heard on the news this morning (after the talk of the bipartisan support for the great giveway bill) about ENORMOUS fires in Australia - are you near them, do you have any information on 'em you could share with us?

Hi {darls} Crux posted a link upthread, and I did too

There are fires here in NSW, but the worst fires are in Victoria - 14 confirmed deaths with fears of more - 25 people unaccounted for

More on the Wandong fire...it's just awful

993 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:34:15am

Another great review of the Pocket Obama (c) 2008.

"I am grateful to the History Company for producing this incredibly useful volume. Often, when evangelizing on behalf of the God-Man, I've been frustrated by a lack of on-hand holy materials. Now, when potential converts ask typical questions such as "what is Barack Obama's plan for my life?", I can now instantly produce the relevant speech or Today Show transcript. In "Pocket Obama" the wisdom of He Whose Face Shines Radiantly is arranged in a convenient alphabetical format, covering all aspects of the Leader's thought. No stone is left unturned as the Divine One condescends to answer our many questions, from the viability of national health insurance to his forgiveness of our sins. Neophytes and those new to Obama Worship would do well to consult this book. Recommended."

994 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:34:16am

re: #967 Killer Tomato

What she said.
The only way any of this total BS is being exposed is through talk radio and blogs. If we reach the point where we need to break out the giant puppets and paper mache and take to the streets, how are we supposed to get the word out? We all going to email each other? We don't have the organizations and networks like the left spent years building, we were all too busy working, raising families, paying taxes, and generally keeping the country running.
They pretty much control the rest of the media. Talk radio / the internet is pretty much the only voice we have - hence, they want to shut it down.

WOLVERINES!

995 opnion  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:34:48am

re: #979 jwb7605

several comments just got deleted.
Somebody is up and awake ...

Well after the Fairness Doctrine, those deletions will stop & we will all probably be banned by BHO, you know to be fair.

996 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:35:01am

re: #988 NYCHardhat

No. He knows that the information that we will find is the information he doesn't want us to find.

Eggsrackry.

997 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:35:15am

re: #925 Scion9
No disrespect intended at all, but I'm through with discussing what MIGHT happen and would much rather focus on the fleecing of America that took place LAST NIGHT - not a dream or a scheme in someone's mind, but it actually happened and the only reason it hap pended was because THREE RINOS went along with it.
And I'm determined to find some way to make those RINOS Pay for this farce.

998 Scion9  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:35:33am

re: #946 SFGoth


Scarcity was the key justification for Red Lion Broadcasting.

My point being that it was a totally bullshit barely Constitutional ruling then. There was no scarcity if you judged every form of media as one monolithic entity. At the time, the various formats were judged individually. I don't see why that would change now.

I have to make two observations. First, with the availability of the internet, this really only affects people with traditional radios who can't get XM, etc. Second, I think that being forced to have liberals on would actually be a boon because you'd have some loser, who couldn't succeed on Air hArmerica (because no one could) and either no one will still listen to him/her and/or the conservative who follows will have a ton of cannon fodder.

The issue is, that no one will listen to Liberal talk radio. 4 hours of Rush, will mean that 4 hours of Libtalk to follow or precede. Ratings tank during those four hours, advertisers won't pay for that time slot, and the network takes a big hit in the wallet. It just got more expensive to broadcast Conservative talk radio.

Of course titans like Limbaugh will stay on. Smaller shows though, and new pundits that have yet to make a name will just get canned. Political programs will go by the wayside so a network can choose programming 24/7 that will not be subject to 'equal time'.

999 rightymouse  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:35:44am

re: #970 opnion

Hell , I had my McCain - Plain yard sign vandalized twice.
A bumper sticker woul have beenm a good way to gey keyed.


The wife of one of the village mayors near us was caught by the police last year taking McCain signs out of yards. It was a scandal. I happen to know the woman. She's an aging hippy type who bums cigs at community fund-raisers from folks smoking outside because she had quit smoking.

1000 Scorch  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:35:46am

re: #889 DistantThunder

LOL Just pay half the rental fee if this exec thinks his salary should be taxed at 50%. Then he would really be helping the little folks out instead of running it through the hands of the Washington clique.

1001 Spiny Norman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:36:37am

re: #981 MandyManners

From my No. 836:

McDowell also said that efforts to reimpose the doctrine could stretch to cable, satellite, and even the Internet. "Certain legal commentators have suggested that a new corollary of the Doctrine should be fashioned for the Internet, on the theory that web surfers should be exposed to topics and views that they have not chosen for themselves," adding: "I am not making this up."

Nanny State!

You will read this and hear this, Comrade, whether you want to or not!

:^þ

1002 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:36:49am

re: #924 Walter L. Newton
Are you comparing Obama to Hitler, Walter? Cause frankly that's moonbat territory as far as I'm concerned. Just as it was when Bush was compared to Hitler.

1003 Truck Monkey  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:36:58am

I hope that my re-education camp is near a lake and that I am allowed to fish.

1004 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:37:05am

re: #983 MandyManners

We're too fucking stupid to find our own information, right CBBHO?

Speaking of hardly stupid: Two years ago when my son was 6, he was watching his 8 year old brother play Roller Coaster Tycoon. It is a computer game in which you set up a theme park, and determine how much you want to charge per rides. But the rides break down, and then the little people will stop coming through the main entrance if there aren't enough rides.

So my 6 year old says to the 8 year old: "You need to hire more workers, and pay them a little more so that when the rides break down you can fix them faster and not lose the customers."

I swear under penalty of perjury that this is true.

1005 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:38:08am

re: #994 MandyManners

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass, other than Custer yelling that when he led his cavalry troopers in a couple of charges during the CW (forget what battle), I'm not familiar with the 'wolverines' call (I assume this has nothing to do with collegiate sports). I've seen it a number of times here...

1006 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:39:27am

Obama: "Not stimulus? What do they think spending is."

Not smarter than a 6 year old.

1007 Bobblehead  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:39:35am

re: #993 Walter L. Newton


Can we have an inspirational quote to start this very depressing(as far as the news is concerned) Saturday?

1008 jwb7605  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:39:50am

re: #1005 Killer Tomato

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass, other than Custer yelling that when he led his cavalry troopers in a couple of charges during the CW (forget what battle), I'm not familiar with the 'wolverines' call (I assume this has nothing to do with collegiate sports). I've seen it a number of times here...

Red Dawn
It's so bad you need to see it.

1009 MJ  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:40:00am

re: #972 ploome hineni

see, it's the Jews fault

lol

There's some newer information about this issue over here:

[Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]

1010 Truck Monkey  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:40:42am

re: #1005 Killer Tomato

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass, other than Custer yelling that when he led his cavalry troopers in a couple of charges during the CW (forget what battle), I'm not familiar with the 'wolverines' call (I assume this has nothing to do with collegiate sports). I've seen it a number of times here...

It is the "battle cry" from the american kids in the 1984 movie "Red Dawn".

1011 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:41:07am

re: #937 MandyManners
"Scarcity was the key justification for Red Lion Broadcasting."
FTFY!

AND A BLANKET THANK YOU for all of your work on the Fairness doctrine (it's not that I mind thanking you each time, Mandy, but I keep falling further and further behind on this thread and have mucho e-mail letters to write and send! LOL!

1012 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:41:41am

re: #1002 realwest

Are you comparing Obama to Hitler, Walter? Cause frankly that's moonbat territory as far as I'm concerned. Just as it was when Bush was compared to Hitler.

Settle down, all I was comparing was the way a leader says one thing and then does another, such as Hitler telling Chamberlain that he didn't want any more territory.

Although I reserve my RIGHT to compare Obama to anyone. Which I will do, especially if he fucks with Israel or does anything in the Middle East that could affect Israel's right to exist.

Bingo.

1013 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:41:45am

re: #998 Scion9

My point being that it was a totally bullshit barely Constitutional ruling then.

Seven out of nine justices were for it.

1014 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:42:06am

re: #1011 realwest

"Scarcity was the key justification for Red Lion Broadcasting."
FTFY!

AND A BLANKET THANK YOU for all of your work on the Fairness doctrine (it's not that I mind thanking you each time, Mandy, but I keep falling further and further behind on this thread and have mucho e-mail letters to write and send! LOL!

Should be renamed the Corruption Doctrine as supression of a free press always results in more corruption.

1015 Desert Dog  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:42:31am

re: #1004 DistantThunder

Speaking of hardly stupid: Two years ago when my son was 6, he was watching his 8 year old brother play Roller Coaster Tycoon. It is a computer game in which you set up a theme park, and determine how much you want to charge per rides. But the rides break down, and then the little people will stop coming through the main entrance if there aren't enough rides.

So my 6 year old says to the 8 year old: "You need to hire more workers, and pay them a little more so that when the rides break down you can fix them faster and not lose the customers."

I swear under penalty of perjury that this is true.

He should allow his workers to join the "Amusement Park Local 546 Union". Then, his Theme Park can pay the workers triple the going rate, give them loads of benefits and a unsustainable pension. Then, when they fail to fix the rides at an acceptable rate and the gate and concession receipts are down, he can go to Washington and play a new video game called: BailMyAssOut Obama. It is a scary game though, as you have to grovel and listen to unbearable speeches from hot-air infused idiots before you can actually get your cold hard cash. And, once you accept that blood money, you have to have a guy from Washington in your HR department setting the wages at a "fair" rate.

1016 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:42:39am

re: #1001 Spiny Norman

You will read this and hear this, Comrade, whether you want to or not!

:^þ

Will we all get shiney, new radios for our homes a la North Korea?

1017 Truck Monkey  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:42:53am

re: #1013 MandyManners

Seven out of nine justices were for it.

Just like 4 out of 5 dentists are for Trident?

/

1018 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:42:58am

re: #1008 jwb7605

Thanks!
Too bad the head of Netflix is an idiot - now I'll have to drive downtown to rent a copy.

1019 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:43:00am

re: #1007 Bobblehead

Can we have an inspirational quote to start this very depressing(as far as the news is concerned) Saturday?

Check up thread under my name. Just search Walter, I'm the only Walter here.

1020 BigMoo  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:43:14am

Good morning campers, it's a beautiful day in Colorado.
Like many, I took last night's news of the "Stimulus" pork and political payoff funding bill very hard-and spent some time ranting here about it. It shouldn't have been a surprise, we all knew a few weak RINO's would sell-out, it was just a matter of for 'how much'.
After a few Shiner Bocks (last night-not this morning), it dawned on me that wallowing in anger accomplishes nothing and that's it's time to shake off the malaise that this Administration and a worthless Congress makes it easy to embrace.
My thoughts (ramblings):
-We're still the greatest nation on the planet..I care to live no where else.
-No nation offers individual liberty and freedom such as we enjoy.
-No nation can match us in power, prosperity and productivity.
-No nation is as generous when a disaster strikes.
-No nation has liberated as many people as we have.

We'll weather this this 'storm' like we've weathered others-it's the 'long view' that will carry us forward, not bitterness.

Have a great day...and keep your powder dry-I'm going shooting.
End of rant.

1021 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:43:31am

re: #1012 Walter L. Newton

Settle down, all I was comparing was the way a leader says one thing and then does another, such as Hitler telling Chamberlain that he didn't want any more territory.

Although I reserve my RIGHT to compare Obama to anyone. Which I will do, especially if he fucks with Israel or does anything in the Middle East that could affect Israel's right to exist.

Bingo.

frankly Obama IS socializing AND nationalizing our country which is what the National Socialists did in Germany - aka the Nazi's. It's a form of societal torture.

1022 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:43:39am

re: #941 Killer Tomato
Huh? I've e-mailed LOTS of congresscritters and never had to have a zip code that matched their districts.
But if it does come to that then I'll do hard copy fax (smail mail takes too long y'all - what with the x-rays, and checking for anthrax and what not)

1023 SurferDoc  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:43:43am

re: #1004 DistantThunder

Speaking of hardly stupid: Two years ago when my son was 6, he was watching his 8 year old brother play Roller Coaster Tycoon. It is a computer game in which you set up a theme park, and determine how much you want to charge per rides. But the rides break down, and then the little people will stop coming through the main entrance if there aren't enough rides.

So my 6 year old says to the 8 year old: "You need to hire more workers, and pay them a little more so that when the rides break down you can fix them faster and not lose the customers."

I swear under penalty of perjury that this is true.

He will go far.

1024 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:44:16am

re: #1004 DistantThunder

Speaking of hardly stupid: Two years ago when my son was 6, he was watching his 8 year old brother play Roller Coaster Tycoon. It is a computer game in which you set up a theme park, and determine how much you want to charge per rides. But the rides break down, and then the little people will stop coming through the main entrance if there aren't enough rides.

So my 6 year old says to the 8 year old: "You need to hire more workers, and pay them a little more so that when the rides break down you can fix them faster and not lose the customers."

I swear under penalty of perjury that this is true.

Teaching them well!

1025 Spiny Norman  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:44:28am

re: #1008 jwb7605

Red Dawn
It's so bad you need to see it.

Did you notice that John Milius's scenario of an occupied US was nearly identical to that imagined by Bill Ayers in Prairie Fire, if not actually inspired by it?

1026 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:44:38am

re: #1015 Desert Dog

He should allow his workers to join the "Amusement Park Local 546 Union". Then, his Theme Park can pay the workers triple the going rate, give them loads of benefits and a unsustainable pension. Then, when they fail to fix the rides at an acceptable rate and the gate and concession receipts are down, he can go to Washington and play a new video game called: BailMyAssOut Obama. It is a scary game though, as you have to grovel and listen to unbearable speeches from hot-air infused idiots before you can actually get your cold hard cash. And, once you accept that blood money, you have to have a guy from Washington in your HR department setting the wages at a "fair" rate.

LOL-My point is that if a 6 year old can understand economic realities - why not a 48 year old man?

1027 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:45:44am

re: #1005 Killer Tomato

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass, other than Custer yelling that when he led his cavalry troopers in a couple of charges during the CW (forget what battle), I'm not familiar with the 'wolverines' call (I assume this has nothing to do with collegiate sports). I've seen it a number of times here...

The wolverine was the mascot of the high school in Red Dawn.

1028 MandyManners  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:46:30am

New thread.

1029 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:46:54am

re: #957 DistantThunder
Yes I would (though I live in N.C. and hence am much safer from vandalizim) but I don't own a car!
I've never, EVER been afraid to express my political beliefs and never, EVER will be.

1030 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:47:22am

re: #1022 realwest

Huh? I've e-mailed LOTS of congresscritters and never had to have a zip code that matched their districts.
But if it does come to that then I'll do hard copy fax (smail mail takes too long y'all - what with the x-rays, and checking for anthrax and what not)

real - they have an email form through their website (most elected officials do), but if you put in a 'wrong' zipcode, it won't accept it.
I assume they have an email addy somewhere, but I don't have it.

1031 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:48:21am

re: #960 rightymouse
Hey, hi there righty! How are you doing today?

1032 aussiemagpie  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:50:45am

Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!

1033 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:51:32am

re: #966 NYCHardhat
I prefer this one:[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
(titled "BAD BLOOD: Obama Mocking Republicans").

1034 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:51:38am

Well gang, I see Charles is up and at it, and I should be too.
Have a wonderful day, and I hope to 'see' you tonight.

1035 Scion9  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:51:53am

re: #1008 jwb7605

Red Dawn
It's so bad you need to see it.

This is being remade. I don't know much about it, but apparently it is no longer about an external invasion. Instead Communists overthrow the government by getting elected to Congress, destroying the economy, and then nationalize the country in the aftermath...Oh God! I'm not watching E! This is CNN! *faint*

(No seriously though, they are remaking Red Dawn, but I don't know anything about the plot.)

1036 DistantThunder  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:53:08am

re: #1029 realwest

Yes I would (though I live in N.C. and hence am much safer from vandalizim) but I don't own a car!
I've never, EVER been afraid to express my political beliefs and never, EVER will be.

I would normally agree with you. but look at the Prop 8 supporters that have had their homes vandalized, businesses boycotted, and have been harrassed and fired.

One news article said the anti-8 people have been combing through supporters declared information and have their address plotted on a big map.

It's a little unnerving.

1037 VioletTiger  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:55:05am

re: #1004 DistantThunder
Wow! A business tycoon to be.

1038 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 8:59:48am

re: #1005 Killer Tomato
Wolverines was the nick name or whatever of a bunch of high school kids and Powers Boothe fighting back against an invasion of the US by the USSR.
It was a fun movie if you're into rightwing nightmare type movies, but of course bore little resemblance to reality.

1039 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 9:03:32am

re: #1013 MandyManners
And none of them are currently on the SCOTUS.
Thank God.

1040 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 9:09:37am
1041 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 9:47:17am
1042 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 9:53:30am
1043 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 10:12:40am

Hey y'all - if any LGFers are still around this dead thread, I've tried to call Specter and Collins and got a recording from their DC offices that their mailboxes are full. Snowe's phone is just off the hook. However, I did take the time to compose POLITE messages to each and e-mail each of them at the following e-mail addys:
Specter:
[Link: [Link: www.visi.com...]...]

Snowe:
[Link: [Link: www.visi.com...]...]

Collins:
[Link: [Link: www.visi.com...]...]

1044 SFGoth  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 10:13:29am

re: #952 MandyManners

Where in the First Amendment is there an exception?

Look, you can (wo)man the front lines all you want, but a smart leader prepares contingency defenses to the rear.

1045 realwest  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 10:14:55am

re: #1044 SFGoth
Yes, but a true leader says "Follow Me", not go on ahead, I'll catch up with you later.

1046 SFGoth  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 10:17:32am

Well, shit, all this bitching about the Fairness doctrine. Maybe if we hadn't had a president for 8 years who believed in Big Government as long as it were his flavor... It ain't his flavor anymore, but good luck protesting when the Left says, "yeah, but YOUR conservative president loved Big Government, so eat it." I'm fucking sick of the religious right, RINOs, and compassionate conservatives. They're going to march us down the road to wimpy socialism (as opposed to muscular socialism, aka, Stalinism) which gets wiped out by Islam because Islam plays for keeps. So depressing.

1047 bullskin  Sat, Feb 7, 2009 10:39:58am

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