Charles Johnson Open • Sat Feb 7, 2009 at 11:27 pm PST • Views: 138
Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the last you are going to see of him till he emerges on the other side of the Atlantic with his verb in his mouth.
— Mark Twain
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German was a fun language to plat at as a teenager but I have started to wonder if certain languages actually force a card on their users, so to speak, when it comes to logic.
German was a fun language to plat at as a teenager but I have started to wonder if certain languages actually force a card on their users, so to speak, when it comes to logic.
I took Russian. There is a built in paranoia in the language.
A Jewish man was sitting in a Starbucks in Israel reading an Arab newspaper. A friend of his, who happened to be in the same store, noticed this strange phenomenon.
Very upset, he approached him and said: 'Moshe, have you lost your mind? Why are you reading an Arab newspaper?'
Moshe replied, 'I used to read the Jewish newspapers, but what did I find? Jews being persecuted, Israel being attacked, Jews disappearing through assimilation and intermarriage, Jews living in poverty.
-So?
So, I switched to the Arab newspaper. Now what do I find?
Jews own all the banks, Jews control the media, Jews are all rich and powerful, Jews rule the world.
He finds a nice spot on the ice, and begins to drill a hole when suddenly he hears a voice...
THERE'S NO FISH THERE.
Shocked, the fisherman looks around. Seeing no one, he decides he's going to take the voice's advice and picks another spot on the ice where he starts to drill another hole.
THERE'S NO FISH THERE.
Startled again, the fisherman again looks around, but sees no one. He again decides to take the voice's advice and moves to yet another spot on the ice where he begins to drill again.
THERE'S NO FISH THERE!
The fisherman looks up and says, "God? Is that you?"
I am depressed...Obama is comging to Elkhart on Monday and Momma won't let me go and protest! I just want to hold up a sign that says "HOW DOES PASSING OUT CONDOMS HELP STIMULATE THE ECONOMY?" Man the first time in my 50 years I want to actually try and get my views to an elected official like colonists did, shot down...We are less than 150 miles dang woman!
I am depressed...Obama is comging to Elkhart on Monday and Momma won't let me go and protest! I just want to hold up a sign that says "HOW DOES PASSING OUT CONDOMS HELP STIMULATE THE ECONOMY?" Man the first time in my 50 years I want to actually try and get my views to an elected official like colonists did, shot down...We are less than 150 miles dang woman!
Have you no pity for all the condom testers that, due to the shrinking economy, have been laid off?
Remember when you ran away and I got on my knees and begged you not to
leave because I'd go berserk? Well...
You left me anyhow and then the days got worse and worse and now you see
I've gone completely out of my mind.. And..
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
Of couse I see your point, and with the "porkin" we got coming maybe we might be better off with a little protection...as long as KY is involved, but I don't think it will help.
Of couse I see your point, and with the "porkin" we got coming maybe we might be better off with a little protection...as long as KY is involved, but I don't think it will help.
You know it's comin' not a damn thing you can do about it...
I took Arabic post 9-11-01 and found that it is actually difficult to reason in.
Grew up with Farsi. I can still think in it, I can think like the Iranians. It's very different, and more than a little scary. No body gets the "mind set" in the middle east, at least no one making decisions.
I've just been wondering.
At some point there is going to have to be some effective way to express our general displeasure. Phone calls and letters get ignored. Conservatives lack the public pathology that activates the CodeFink sorts. So what sort of effective public action might we take to toss a bit of sand in the gears of the Obamatron?
Suggestion 1) Rather than a general strike ( which is not our way, and anyway would be ignored by those who don't hang around were work happens) might I suggest a 'drive in'?
If I was to believe the car-pool fanatics ( which I don't, but they are the best information going w/o heavy research) then the subtraction of 5% of the car load would magically clear the freeways. This it would follow that such an addition would jam up the works BIG TIME.
Therefore: How about a day where we all try to 'drive around' ( doubling our time on-freeway, thus being in effect two cars, and thus jamming the heck out of everything) until the effect is the same as a strike? No one getting anything done. For those with extra cars, sending the spouse and sprogs out as extra drivers would just make it that much more effective.
It's understandable but it is the other way around. French has always had an eye on Germany. They didn't want a strong Germany by their border and thats why they always fought some of their wars over the German soil
No- it doesn't. I just tried it on a spinoff I posted days ago and the counter didn't move.
I've tried three times now on old spinoffs where there would be no other traffic, and the counter didn't move. It was programed to stop "click spamming", but ask Charles in the morning if you don't believe me.
It's understandable but it is the other way around. French has always had an eye on Germany. They didn't want a strong Germany by their border and thats why they always fought some of their wars over the German soil
I know that Alsace Lorraine has been in dispute spanning back into the 19th century...
You could get flowery but not specific.
If a conclusion went against the Koran or Hadith the teacher stopped you.
Maybe it wasn't the actual language but the slant of the teacher.
There were a lot of ''do's and don't's" that seemed outside of the realm of grammer and more in the realm of politics.
So I dropped it.
I've just been wondering.
At some point there is going to have to be some effective way to express our general displeasure. Phone calls and letters get ignored. Conservatives lack the public pathology that activates the CodeFink sorts. So what sort of effective public action might we take to toss a bit of sand in the gears of the Obamatron?
Suggestion 1) Rather than a general strike ( which is not our way, and anyway would be ignored by those who don't hang around were work happens) might I suggest a 'drive in'?
If I was to believe the car-pool fanatics ( which I don't, but they are the best information going w/o heavy research) then the subtraction of 5% of the car load would magically clear the freeways. This it would follow that such an addition would jam up the works BIG TIME.
Therefore: How about a day where we all try to 'drive around' ( doubling our time on-freeway, thus being in effect two cars, and thus jamming the heck out of everything) until the effect is the same as a strike? No one getting anything done. For those with extra cars, sending the spouse and sprogs out as extra drivers would just make it that much more effective.
Well - that's my idea. What's yours?
Send disposable diapers to congresscritters with the note attached that the only difference between them and the diaper is that it's not full of s#!t yet.
The interiors for the movie "Das Boot" were shot in a mockup of this boat. U-505 the only Man 'O War captured by the U.S. Navy on the high seas in wartime since the war of 1812.
I was there with my mom and dad when they pulled the U-505 out of Lake Michigan across the Outer Drive to the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. A truly incredible story and I made this video to add a little to the history of the boat and the brave men that captured her.
Actually, I got the gist of the politics of the teacher's slant on Arabic right after we switched from vocabulary only to putting together thoughts.
I was already in my 50's at the time.
I thought I could be of some help by learning Arabic but I could not put up with the BS.
I did think a couple of the other students were planted there to see what the agenda of the teacher was...big military types of the non-Muslim persuasion.
The interiors for the movie "Das Boot" were shot in a mockup of this boat. U-505 the only Man 'O War captured by the U.S. Navy on the high seas in wartime since the war of 1812.
I was there with my mom and dad when they pulled the U-505 out of Lake Michigan across the Outer Drive to the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. A truly incredible story and I made this video to add a little to the history of the boat and the brave men that captured her.
When she was smaller, and people were taller, she realized she was different . . .
Aw, thanks for posting that, gmsc! Cass Elliot has been my favorite female vocalist since I was in high school -- which was in the late '80s, long after her death.
Also dinged you up for the "Five Guys in a Limo" post in #1! (For everyone else, the "Five Guys" who get into the limo are voiceover artists you've heard in countless movie trailers: "In a world...")
I wouldn't worry as much about SK as I wold Taiwan, but I just read the other day that they are thinking of linking Taiwan with the mainland by bridge, and taiwan is the ones wanting it done...
Interesting.
I toured a Soviet sub that was temporarily docked by the Queen Mary.
Man that was cramped!
I still use the vodka flask...with official USSR navy logo.
Geepers, that thing holds a ton of vodka!
I found these things at the supermarket. Little Debbie Valentine's Day cakes. I bought some. They were a buck sixty, I figured, I haven't had sugar for days, what could it hurt? I like Little Debbie junk now and then. Something about the plasticky frosting makes me happy.
I'm practically hallucinating. I don't think there is one ingredient in those things that is remotely natural. I mean, realistically, it must have come from some sort of natural product at some point, but the natural product wouldn't recognize it now. If I eat a few more of these and then die (a very real possibility), my body will not decay, due to the incredible influx of preservatives, and I will end up being worshipped as a saint or something. Like Lenin. Or Eva Peron. Neither of whom have I ever wished to emulate.
I'm going to go to sleep, and then in the morning I may have to take a sauna or something to detox.
capacity? Yes they do, longevity? no, ability to remain in the field? supplies? maybe, willpower? I think their army has a lot more unwilling conscripts than they really believe there is...
missy, I've been scratching my head for ideas and could only come up with everyone mailing annoying items to congress, like ribbed condoms to provide "stimulation." Don't snort! It worked when the L.A. mayor got hundreds of toilet brushes for a stupid remark he made on behalf of illegal aliens.
San Francisco had a movement called "critical mass" in which thousands of bicyclers gummed up traffic every Friday at rush hour. It annoyed the hell out of everyone and thus achieved its effect. I think adding emergency blinkers and horns to a drive-around could PO His Suaveness. If we did it enough, the foreign media at least would pick it up and ultimately out alphabet channels would have to cough up a story about "citizen unrest."
Is anyone else extremely afraid for the people of South Korea and Taiwan right now?
It's very plausible that neither county might exist anymore in 4 years.
No, I am not. For different reasons. First, for Taiwan, the current sentiment in that country already appears to be moving towards warmer relations with the mainland, and there is no indication that either party wishes to radically change this direction.
As for SK... for fifty years now they have had to live with constant threats from the North. Yet over that time, even with changes in the leadership (several times ) of all the nations who have an interest in that nation (not just the US, but Japan, China, Russia), the storyline has barely budged. Yes, I do believe there is a small chance that NK could deteriorate to a level where the leadership might do something radical, but right now it is hard to tell if that time is now.
I think a good stiker campaign would be good, but word of mouth always works. In fact today I was speaking on my cell and I brought up the quote from his "audcity of hope" about if things got bad he would "stand with the islamists" watching out of the corner of my eye, I could see a yaoung guy maybe 21 listening in to every word I said, and the look on his face was priceless! Here I was talking about his boy like that! But you know I was quoting things I read here in the last 24 hours, and he was listening too. I bet he went and checked it out either way just to see if I was BS'ing
Aw, thanks for posting that, gmsc! Cass Elliot has been my favorite female vocalist since I was in high school -- which was in the late '80s, long after her death.
Also dinged you up for the "Five Guys in a Limo" post in #1! (For everyone else, the "Five Guys" who get into the limo are voiceover artists you've heard in countless movie trailers: "In a world...")
You're welcome. Thank you for the updings!
More specifically, the 5 guys in the limo were:
Don LaFontaine (He and Hal Douglas, who appears only as a voice on the phone, are considered the grandfathers of modern voice-over work. Both use the "In A World" phrase.)
John Leader - The voice of Survivor, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Back To The Future, and just about every romantic comedy trailer.
Al Chalk - You'll recognize his voice from the Independence Day and Snakes on a Place trailers.
Mark Elliot - From every Disney trailer/preview/coming attraction segment you've even seen.
Nick Tate - Crocodile Dundee and Jurassic Park trailers are probably his best-known work.
We've slowly, over many years, transitioned to almost all homemade foods.
I don't even buy bleached flour anymore.
I just took a look at an ingredients label from one of the NoodleRoni packages we keep around for emergencies and it reads like what that junk you ate sounds like.
Sort of flour, sort of sugar, sort of milk.
Do food banks want that stuff?
re: #90 Marvo76 capacity? Yes they do, longevity? no, ability to remain in the field? supplies? maybe, willpower? I think their army has a lot more unwilling conscripts than they really believe there is...
Ability to remain in the field and supplies for North korea is a flat resounding no. If North Korea Invades the South it's going to start with a massive artillary outpouring into souel and points north to the DMZ. North Korea barely has the Supplies to feed it's population in non war times a war would destroy them. Depending on the Powers that be tho they may decide that eliminating the south is worth their own elimination. Most of the Army may be Unwilling conscripts but those conscripts are far more afraid of the PTB's than of dying in a war against the south.
capacity? Yes they do, longevity? no, ability to remain in the field? supplies? maybe, willpower? I think their army has a lot more unwilling conscripts than they really believe there is...
I read an analysis a while ago that as much as the South is fearful of a Northern attack, they are also afraid of the collapse of the Northern state and reunification. The economic ramifications of trying to absorb a stone-age country would affect the South for decades.
re: #101 abaleh
Yeah it would be much easier to destory SK by capitulating and appealing to their nice democratic neighbors to the south to take them in. Allthough this likely wont happen because that would mean those in power in the north would have to admit they have failed.
Look what it did for germany! but they had a similar culture, the concept of freedom would paralyze NK citizens since they have never known anything else...
Look what it did for germany! but they had a similar culture, the concept of freedom would paralyze NK citizens since they have never known anything else...
What about pre-World War II Japan? They largely came from a culture of ruling Emperors going back ages.
Gee, nine spinoff links and Mr. Blog Pimp already has seven.
/cripe sakes, sign up for Twitter, quit spamming LGF on every overnight thread!
I can't sleep, but at least here, in CA, it is late nighttime.
What time is it in Israel?
(How were you doing the last few days before the national election here?
It was awful!)
That's what he's going through in daytime in Israel right now.
I can't sleep, but at least here, in CA, it is late nighttime.
What time is it in Israel?
(How were you doing the last few days before the national election here?
It was awful!)
That's what he's going through in daytime in Israel right now.
/he does it every night, posts all his blog entries for that day, only 78 comments and 1,164 posted spinoffs
I've just been wondering.
At some point there is going to have to be some effective way to express our general displeasure. Phone calls and letters get ignored. Conservatives lack the public pathology that activates the CodeFink sorts. So what sort of effective public action might we take to toss a bit of sand in the gears of the Obamatron?
Suggestion 1) Rather than a general strike ( which is not our way, and anyway would be ignored by those who don't hang around were work happens) might I suggest a 'drive in'?
If I was to believe the car-pool fanatics ( which I don't, but they are the best information going w/o heavy research) then the subtraction of 5% of the car load would magically clear the freeways. This it would follow that such an addition would jam up the works BIG TIME.
Therefore: How about a day where we all try to 'drive around' ( doubling our time on-freeway, thus being in effect two cars, and thus jamming the heck out of everything) until the effect is the same as a strike? No one getting anything done. For those with extra cars, sending the spouse and sprogs out as extra drivers would just make it that much more effective.
Well - that's my idea. What's yours?
How about taking the change we have in our pockets and mailing it to Obama and tell him "This all all I have left, use it wisely!"
A German friend of mine was getting married about 4 years ago, and we decided to have the stag weekend in Koln (Cologne), a good college party town.
A Canadian friend of mine asked, "Hey, what exactly to Germans do at a Bachelor Party". I responded, "It is an old tradition, they get drunk and invade Belgium".
I got an A on my graduate German language exam.
The text passage happened to be something I was familiar with and I wrote from memory with the actual German being like sign posts in a foreign country in which you are lost.
No, it just means that you've never been exposed to German sentence structure whereby you can negate a whole bunch of contextual words at the end of a very, gigantically, enormously, fantastically, stupendously, interestingly, long not sentence.
Btw all keeps Red's Fruitcup away from Open flames I just lost my eyebrows to a combo of Red Fruitcup and a match. Thought it smelled a bit like Ethanol so took a match to it got a 3 foot blue flame.
Feb. 5 (Bloomberg) – Fannie Mae, the mortgage-finance company under U.S. government control, will loosen rules for homeowners seeking to lower their loan payments by refinancing.
Fannie Mae will drop some credit-score requirements, reduce income-documentation standards and waive the need for appraisals in some cases, according to a notice yesterday to lenders posted on the Washington-based company’s Web site. The changes apply to loans that the company owns or guarantees.
went down to have dinner with Slokat and his 6 in San Pedro, then we went over to see Windcatcher, which, btw, is a nice little boat.
saddled up and went over to Long Beach to get gas for the drive back to the Valley, and got on the freeway... just got going when the "check engine" light came on, so we pulled over to see if i'd screwed up the gas cap.
it was fine, but then the engine quit and wouldn't restart.
1st guess? contaminated fuel... punched the magic button, and the online tech guy agreed, so they dispatched a flatbed to haul it to the nearest dealer.
late saturday night, miles from home... now what.
called Slo back up and he came out an got us, plus all the stuff we didn't want mysteriously disappearing from the car, and dragged us all the way back home.
Fannie Mae will drop some credit-score requirements, reduce income-documentation standards and waive the need for appraisals in some cases, according to a notice yesterday to lenders posted on the Washington-based company’s Web site. The changes apply to loans that the company owns or guarantees.
Gosh, what a wonderful idea. Except this time good luck finding an investment bank to take that debt on. Who will pay? Why, I'm sure it's in Nancy's Botox bill of pork!
re: #153 gmsc
I really do not understand why the people of New Orleans are unable to get their act together while other cities along the gulf coast who were struck by the same storm have been stabilized in less than a year after the storm. We have had several direct hits from hurricanes here in south texas over the last four decades but everyone and I mean everyone helps their neighbor, community or city return life to where it was before.
In reply to the Fannie Mae article, well they obviously did not learn much from their previous loosening of responsible banking rules over the previous decade and a half.
You want Republicans and rational people to demonstrate their displeasure with the current rape of the American people, straight through the pocketbook?
Than PROTEST through the pocketbook!
Either
A/ refuse, en masse, to pay taxes
OR
B/ pick a day and have 200,000 previously tax-paying PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE go downtown and REGISTER FOR WELFARE!
/if you wanna show displeasure, BREAK the system by having the courage of your convictions!
I really do not understand why the people of New Orleans are unable to get their act together while other cities along the gulf coast who were struck by the same storm have been stabilized in less than a year after the storm.
I don't know, but I bet if we try hard and get creative, we could pin it on Darwin.
If you don't get any satisfaction from the owner of the gas station since they should pay for repairs, there is a phone number on the pump which is the state comptroller who will immediately show up to test the gasoline for odd mixtures or rust or whatever was in the gas. Good Luck!
My check engine light has been on for 8 years now.
And the only time this car has broken down was on the way back from Florida this year - in Titusville, FL!
/not fun
yeah, well this is one of those finely crafted German machines with less than 12K on it, not some rattle trap American beater. light's not supposed to come on, and with a Kompressor motor, you tend to take it serious when it does.
I really do not understand why the people of New Orleans are unable to get their act together while other cities along the gulf coast who were struck by the same storm have been stabilized in less than a year after the storm. We have had several direct hits from hurricanes here in south texas over the last four decades but everyone and I mean everyone helps their neighbor, community or city return life to where it was before.
Much of New Orleans lived off the government, and the Katrina problem enabled the most all-encompassing program these people had ever been able to take advantage of. They can't get their act together now, because they've never gotten their act together before.
Every place that was affected by Katrina has tried to get back to where they were before the Hurricane. Unfortunately, that includes these people from New Orleans.
In reply to the Fannie Mae article, well they obviously did not learn much from their previous loosening of responsible banking rules over the previous decade and a half.
I've been following real estate in the San Fran south bay area for 30 years and have bought 2 houses in that time. Rule of thumb was multiply your yearly income by 3 and that is what price you might qualify for. Emphasis on might. Over the last few years that has been upended.
If you don't get any satisfaction from the owner of the gas station since they should pay for repairs, there is a phone number on the pump which is the state comptroller who will immediately show up to test the gasoline for odd mixtures or rust or whatever was in the gas. Good Luck!
well, if that state office is open on Monday, i'll give it a try... the local air quality board might be interested, and since it was a Chevron station and we bought it on their card, they're likely to want to get it right.
won;t know for sure until the dealer takes a look on monday, but it makes the most sense. somebody could have screwed up and got some diesel in the tank, or, or, or...
I've been following real estate in the San Fran south bay area for 30 years and have bought 2 houses in that time. Rule of thumb was multiply your yearly income by 3 and that is what price you might qualify for. Emphasis on might. Over the last few years that has been upended.
I moved from the SF East Bay at what now seems to have been the right time. I sold my house there, took the down payment I was given, and used it to pay for my current residence . . . in full!
re: #191 Sharmuta But I thought the whole "Hope and Change" mantra was just shorthand for "You will hope you still have change in your pocket after Obamessiah gets elected."
Change? Obama should be changing his linen about now because of the muck he has made with his arrogant and insulting appeals to popular opinion trying to ram through his socialist spending bill (this post has been sanitized for your protection).
re: #198 Scorch
Are you Kidding with his name in LA the poor man is likely still hiding from Lynch mobs inspired by Bobby Jindal's Precreationism in school.
Today, during an afternoon conference that wrapped up my project of the last 18 months, one of my Euro collegues tossed this little turd out to no one in particular:
" See, this is why George Bush is so dumb, theres a disaster in the world and he sends an Aircraft Carrier..."
After which he and many of my Euro collegues laughed out loud.
and then they looked at me. I wasn't laughing, and neither was my Hindi friend sitting next to me, who has lost family in the disaster.
I'm afraid I was "unprofessional", I let it loose -
"Hmmm, let's see, what would be the ideal ship to send to a disaster, now what kind of ship would we want?
Something with its own inexhuastible power supply?
Something that can produce 900,000 gallons of fresh water a day from sea water?
Something with its own airfield? So that after producing the fresh water, it could help distribute it?
Something with 4 hospitals and lots of open space for emergency supplies?
Something with a global communications facility to make the coordination of disaster relief in the region easier?
Well "Franz", us peasants in America call that kind of ship an "Aircraft Carrier". We have 12 of them. How many do you have? Oh that's right, NONE. Lucky for you and the rest of the world, we are the kind of people who share. Even with people we dont like. In fact, if memory serves,once upon a time we peasants spent a ton of money and lives rescuing people who we had once tried to kill and who tried to kill us.
Do you know who those people were? that's right Franz, Europeans.
Theres is a French Aircraft carrier? where is it? Right where it belongs! In France of course! Oh why should the French Navy dirty their uniforms helping people on the other side of the globe. How Simplesse...
The day an American has to move a European out of the way to help in some part of the world it will be a great day in the world, you sniggering little f**knob..."
The room fell silent. My hindi friend then said quietly to the Euros:
"Can you let your hatred of George Bush end for just one minute? There are people dying! And what are your countries doing? Amazon.com has helped more than France has. You all have a role to play in the world, why can't you see that? Thank God for the US Navy, they dont have to come and help, but they are. They helped you once and you should all thank God they did. They didnt have to, and no one but them would have done so. I'm ashamed of you all..."
Man he was way nicer than I have been explaining why a carrier was sent to indonesia.
re: #201 Rustler
Have quite a few family ties who still live in La. They have not mentioned any late night cross burnings or white sheets running around.
Bobby Jindal when he passed the legislation allowing schools to choose whether or not to teach Intelligent design granted the Moonbat Creationists a Victory over Darwin's teachings. If they could get their hands on a real live Charles Darwin to burn in Effigy I believe some of this Disco Inst. whackjobs would jump at the chance. But I should have put a sarc tag on it.
The damage to the vehicle can be a bit of change! Enough to want restitution I understand. However, if the owner is difficult, they may deny it.
quite likely a company station... we'll see, but there aren't too many independents left in town. the profit margin has been squeezed dry here.
besides, first thing i'm going to tell the dealer is that they are to save gas samples when they start the diagnostics, and that way i'll have them if that's the problem. proving we bought it is a slam dunk since it's on the Chevron card that she's had for years.
re: #210 Rustler
Spent 3 years on and off Forrestal and Saratoga during the early 70's and that is true about their capabilities. I also remember the designation being changed from CVA's (attack carrier) to CV's (just plain aircraft carrier) because the attack was seen as being offensive to some people like in your post.
Reminds me of when had my first car (used, bought off my dad) and the damn thing broke down. My brother asked me, When was the last time you had the oil changed.
You would think so! Takes the fun out of telling someone how old you are or how many human parents they have or that it's one o'clock, thankyouverymuch! I believe the current POTUS could be guilty of that.
Bobby Jindal when he passed the legislation allowing schools to choose whether or not to teach Intelligent design granted the Moonbat Creationists a Victory over Darwin's teachings. If they could get their hands on a real live Charles Darwin to burn in Effigy I believe some of this Disco Inst. whackjobs would jump at the chance. But I should have put a sarc tag on it.
As things are now, Rustler, I'm hoping that parents will prepare some of their God-fearing children with logic and truth, to stand up and RIP THE CREATIONIST ARGUMENTS to SHREDS, in front of the class and the teachers presenting belief as if it were science!
I'm hoping this will not only blow up in the ID peoples' faces, but will stimulate REAL thought and REAL learning!
Then how come so many people with restraining orders are able to kill the people who seek to be protected?
because they're dumb enough to rely on a piece of paper instead of themselves? i feel bad for them, but evil people are evil, and if they've already broken the law, that piece of paper ain't gonna do squat, but an 870 will.
re: #243 Karridine Hopefully that is the Outcome I don't see it happening granting the DI even such a small victory as this only encourages them to keep up the crap. Allthough if it blows out like you hope it will maybe it will actually end up discouraging people. I however have ceased giving credance to hope.
He's doing Good working at the Prison so he's mostly on during days and as under staffed as the prison is he's been doing a lot of CO work rather than training and such so less time to post.
re: #281 BatGuano
Did not know that. Nothing wrong with being gay but seems to go against nature. Some of the threads posted in LGF where members take photos at gay rights gatherings are usually quite disgusting.
My little sister is gay...Like I said..It doesn't bother the hoopster..We accept her totally and I would fuck up somebodies world if somebody hurt her..
just saying...
/need more coffee!
re: #284 HoosierHoops Don't bother me either But back in the day when Cole was around born 1891 died 1964ish it made a bigger deal. In the 30's after living in California awhile it came out a bit more he was assumes Bisexual, later it became theorized he was just maskarading with all the Beautiful women and the wife.
re: #294 HoosierHoops
Yeah when it's a personal choice you aren't inflicting on the rest of us it's fine. When you dress flambouyantly enough to make Liberachi blush and insist I acknowledge you and treat you like everyone else when you obviously aren't trying to treat me as a normal person is where I draw the line.
Not aware of that. At least I've never seen it. I have not known of any LGF 'er
disparaging anyone on those grounds. I have nothing against gay Americans and I was just quoting a Jerry Seinfeld episode. If I gave the wrong impression, I apologize. I am solely responsible for any comments I make and no one else. But now that you mention it, "gay as a goose" was a regrettable choice of words and I apologize again.
I'm watching Biography of Andy Gibbs..
In the 70's when Andy was recording in a studio next to Queen..Freddie Mercury could not hit a high note and had Andy come ovr and hit the note for him..I wish they had told us what song and note...
Can you imagine Freddie walking over to you and asking you to hit a high note for you? too freaking cool..
My little sister is leaning gay but I personally think she's been hurt a few times by some guys in her life and is a little vulnerable and confused. My mother and father, though, aren't that understanding. My mother almost is but hates my sister's behavior.
re: #300 Hengineer
Might be best to tell your mother that griefing your sister over her sexual Orientation is a good way to lose a child that is still alive. A little compassion and understanding on both parts goes a long way. Your sister can try and keep the behavior on a lower level around your mother and Mom can try to be understanding and maybe they will be able to find some mutual ground.
re: #297 BatGuano
Nothing wrong with what you posted and hell I love grey goose vodka!
I better quit while ahead or my ding down meter will jump to -250 before the days out. :)
Might be best to tell your mother that griefing your sister over her sexual Orientation is a good way to lose a child that is still alive. A little compassion and understanding on both parts goes a long way. Your sister can try and keep the behavior on a lower level around your mother and Mom can try to be understanding and maybe they will be able to find some mutual ground.
Yea thats the problem, its not how my sister behaves around my mother, its that she 's not seeming to moderate it at all (and she's almost always been like this). She's in the navy, so my family hardly sees her as it is, so that when the holidays come around and we're all there (there was at least one Christmas I remember about 2 years back), its a special thing (Especially since I sail for a living as well). Well that christmas she barely spent any time at home and was always leaving to see some friend, indicating she'd rather spend the time there than with her family.
Did not know that. Nothing wrong with being gay but seems to go against nature. Some of the threads posted in LGF where members take photos at gay rights gatherings are usually quite disgusting.
I'm not gay.
But imagine yourself in the position of a gay person. Looking at the majority heterosexual world (at the beach, people in beachwear, holding hands and kissing) well and not being disgusted yourself?!?
And by the way it is their demonstrations for equal rights and if they decide to dress flamboyantly we heterosexuals don't need to go and have a look. It's the same with loony demonstrations, I decide if I go and have a look and be disgusted (e.g. Zombietime's excellent work of documentation). It is entirely my choice.
Just sayin'. No offense intended.
[One off post, need to to run, see ya later]
Ahh that's no good like I said the respect is a 2 way street. I can respect almost any decision someone chooses to make which doesn't adversely effect another. I do however ask for the same respect for my decisions. If your mother feels that your sister is ostracizing her because of hte lifestyle some discomfort with the decisions made by your sister may just be justified. re: #306 Hengineer
re: #307 callahan23
Nope if they want to dress that way to bring attention at a rally its one thing when they do it on a daily basis and expect you to stay in close proximity with them or be called a homophobe it's a different matter. I dislike all public displays of affection beyond hand holding. Things beyond handholding or a quick hug/peck on the check in greeting are better reserved for the privacy of the home not out in public.
A very simplistic argument on why we need unions (SPIT)
When your argument makes this conclusion based on that they, the employees, make higher wages - and not discuss the ramifications of unions (jobs going elsewhere) one can only wonder about the quality of air in which this guy lives...then I read "Berkeley" ..Figures
Watching Andy Gibbs on Biography.. after 50 minutes of this..It is a tragic story..The dude had real issues with coke..I'm betting he dies from coke after the commercial.. but I may be wrong..What a talented dude..In the beginning of the show they talked about how when he was 18 he could look into the mirror and not able to see how handsome or talented he was..he just couldn't see it...We all think if we were just f'n studs that could sing like nobodies business...we would live our dreams..Sad really..ruins my fantasies
A very simplistic argument on why we need unions (SPIT)
When your argument makes this conclusion based on that they, the employees, make higher wages - and not discuss the ramifications of unions (jobs going elsewhere) one can only wonder about the quality of air in which this guy lives...then I read "Berkeley" ..Figures
Watching Andy Gibbs on Biography.. after 50 minutes of this..It is a tragic story..The dude had real issues with coke..I'm betting he dies from coke after the commercial.. but I may be wrong..What a talented dude..In the beginning of the show they talked about how when he was 18 he could look into the mirror and not able to see how handsome or talented he was..he just couldn't see it...We all think if we were just f'n studs that could sing like nobodies business...we would live our dreams..Sad really..ruins my fantasies
I can't wait to see the Sunday morning talk shows..
Who is Obama going to send out to dilute the message of if we don't pass this bill today we are doomed or well we trimmed a few billion off of it..so not totally doomed..or whatever...Let's live blog the BS this morning...
I can't wait to see the Sunday morning talk shows..
Who is Obama going to send out to dilute the message of if we don't pass this bill today we are doomed or well we trimmed a few billion off of it..so not totally doomed..or whatever...Let's live blog the BS this morning...
I am still waiting for my disgrace of a senator Arlen Specter to 'splain his RINO reasoning for voting for this mess.
I hope you guys know I am missing yoga to talk to you today ---
Don't everyone speak at once...
ohmmm
I think he did..I shouldn't say this but I will..
For years poor Andy did tons of Coke..he admitted it..just huge amounts of drugs..When he passed he was only doing lots of booze..
The producers try to rehab him as passing of a weak heart..and yes he did die of a weak heart...but to put in upon natural causes is bullcrap...
rest in peace Andy.. But you should have not done drugs most of your life..
I don't think it passed yet, but they have the votes for it in the Senate.
So they did a poll of the votes they believe they can get and think it's passed? Well then someone better lean pretty heavy on Specter, and those two other RINOS...
Lindsey Graham was mighty upset the other night on Greta - I thought he was going to blow a gasket.
So they did a poll of the votes they believe they can get and think it's passed? Well then someone better lean pretty heavy on Specter, and those two other RINOS...
Lindsey Graham was mighty upset the other night on Greta - I thought he was going to blow a gasket.
Philly's all-news station quoted Specter as saying he will vote for this bill because it is $100 million less than the original. Great, but it's still in the $700 million + range, Alren! Stop being such a damned sellout!
The final season of the Saprono's starts tonight on A&E.
As much as I watched that show..It was always really weird..You watch TV shows cause you like a certain character...like Hawkeye in MASH or whoever..
I never liked one single character in the Sapronos..The show disgusted me and i watched every one..I'm stupid
By the way, I strongly recommend the 2004 biopic De-Lovely to all Cole Porter fans -- it deals with his homosexual affairs in a straightforward but very tasteful way, and provides some insights into why his incredibly beautiful wife Linda was quite willing to marry a rather plain-looking man who preferred other men.
Kevin Kline is Cole, Ashley Judd is Linda, and they're both pretty awesome (despite the fact that Kline is not only too handsome, but sings better than the real Porter) -- plus, about a dozen or so of Porter's songs are performed by contemporary artists. It's pretty kick-ass (I mean, assuming that a Cole Porter biography is your idea of a fun movie!).
No - they are going to vote early this week on it, but they have "commitment" from 3 republicans (Snowe, Collins, and Specter) to vote for it - which means they have 60.
Sen. Arlen Specter predicts that there will be enough support for a slimmed-down stimulus package from his fellow moderate Republicans for it to pass.
Pennsylvania's senior senator spoke to reporters in Philadelphia on Saturday. He says the $110 billion that moderate Republicans had gotten cut from the package made it more palatable.
"There is no doubt in my mind it would be a lot worse than what this bill can provide," said Senator Specter. "I believe that it provides the essentials to do the job."
"The hundred and ten billion dollar reduction is very substantial as we're concerned about directing the program to specific items which will stimulate jobs," said the veteran senator.
A top economic adviser to President Obama has told a congressional panel the billions of dollars in the proposed economic stimulus plan should be allocated with social issues in mind, to make sure the money doesn't go to just "white male construction workers" or the highly skilled.
Robert Reich, who served as labor secretary under President Clinton, was speaking to the House Steering and Policy Committee Jan. 7 about funding infrastructure projects across the nation.
No - they are going to vote early this week on it, but they have "commitment" from 3 republicans (Snowe, Collins, and Specter) to vote for it - which means they have 60.
Well thank gawd..All those 500,000 people a month going out of work will soon be on the job again.../
re: #351 Rustler
Doh didn't paste 2nd part of the statement.
"It seems to me that infrastructure spending is a very important and good way of stimulating the economy. The challenge will be to do it quickly, to find projects that can be done that will have a high social return, that also can be done with the greatest speed possible," Reich said.
"I am concerned, as I'm sure many of you are, that these jobs not simply go to high skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers," he said.
So Prof Reich wants all this new infrastructure to be built by unskilled labor perferably not white. Who the Fuck will drive on a bridge built by unskilled labor. There is a reason training is required for certain jobs whether its OJT or tradeschools or college.
So Prof Reich wants all this new infrastructure to be built by unskilled labor perferably not white. Who the Fuck will drive on a bridge built by unskilled labor. There is a reason training is required for certain jobs whether its OJT or tradeschools or college.
Who wants to be led by unskilled politicians? Not like we have a choice.
re: #354 Wyatt Earp
I may try contacting senators snowe, specter, and collins via email laer today to encourage them to drop support. Since snowe and collins likely have busy signals as well. Or maybe Wyatt you got lucky and his line was busy as a result of everyone else calling and ranting.
No - they are going to vote early this week on it, but they have "commitment" from 3 republicans (Snowe, Collins, and Specter) to vote for it - which means they have 60.
The bill is incredibly short sighted - it seems no one put much thought into long term employment. The "infrastructure" is temporary, once the job is finished, no more employment. Then what? Hope it's 2010 or 2012 by the time these little projects end and we have mass unemployment necessitating another HUGE "stimulus" plan?
I may try contacting senators snowe, specter, and collins via email laer today to encourage them to drop support. Since snowe and collins likely have busy signals as well. Or maybe Wyatt you got lucky and his line was busy as a result of everyone else calling and ranting.
That was my hope, but not my expectation. Specter has been living on borrowed election time for a while now, and he is ripe for a defeat. Hell, at this point I wouldn't mind a Dem in his chair. At least with one of them we know we'll get screwed royally!
Looks like Prof. Reich has Charlie Rangle in the bag too.
Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., appeared to agree, suggesting federal money be directed to specific groups of people.
The federal government, he said, must "remove the discretion" about where the funds go, or what projects would be involved, even to the point of eliminating any input from governors or state legislatures.
Reich agreed: "Governors ought to be, should be given a choice of signing on the bottom line or not."
Then Rangel noted the "middle class" would be unlikely to create any opposition to funds directed to minorities.
"One thing that you can depend on, you don't have to be worried about what the middle class is going to do. Things are so bad, they have to put food on their tables, get clothes for their kids, get them in school," he said.
There will be outrage when a bridge collapses - but the fault will lie with "engineering" who did not inspect well. Don't forget, The One also signed yet another executive order giving government construction job preference to Unions, thereby making the project more costly, thereby limiting even further the number of "infrastructure" jobs that will be completed. I have not heard one Senator point this out (though it could have been and just not reported).
The bill is incredibly short sighted - it seems no one put much thought into long term employment. The "infrastructure" is temporary, once the job is finished, no more employment. Then what? Hope it's 2010 or 2012 by the time these little projects end and we have mass unemployment necessitating another HUGE "stimulus" plan?
You got it. Keep everyone indebted to the Government or dependent on them actually, and the Democratic votes will keep rolling in. People will no longer take initiative to start businesses and be self reliant - why should they? We will be just a bunch of little worker bees making the same amount of money, living in the same houses, standing in the same health care lines, eating the same approved food, and be happy that Daddy Government is taking care of us.
It's the beginning of a long term strategy methinks
As WND reported, Democratic Party strategist Donna Brazile admitted she swiped Obama's complimentary blanket from his inauguration ceremony and then joked it was not a criminal offense because, "We have a black president ... this was free."
Outrage also erupted over the inauguration benediction by Rev. Joseph Lowery, the 87-year-old civil rights pioneer, for asking God to help mankind work for a day when "white would embrace what is right."
Obama reacted to the benediction with a smile.
From the bottom of link that has me so heted this morning.
So Prof Reich wants all this new infrastructure to be built by unskilled labor perferably not white. Who the Fuck will drive on a bridge built by unskilled labor. There is a reason training is required for certain jobs whether its OJT or tradeschools or college.
Good morning, Lizards.
I often wonder how Reich got his Ph.D (Economics, I believe), in that I have yet to hear anything out of his mouth that makes the slightest bit of sense, on any subject. I am forced to conclude that he had a very "broad-minded" doctoral committee.
As for his bright idea in this area, I'm thinking of all the existing state and federal laws that will have to be repealed, or just ignored, to do it his way. Besides the laws on workplace discrimination, there are also the laws stating how contracts for bridges, etc., are let, the ones regarding the qualifications of the people designing and building same, etc.
My guess is, if his idea were to prevail, the majority of the infrastructure budget would be spent by the DOJ defending the government in state courts, especially after a few bridges failed inspection. Or just collapsed like the one in Minneapolis.
A question about about evolution of finger-picking guitar style players. Did they learn the technique by watching banjo players or did banjo players learn it from guitar players, or did they arise separately?
Why is it that Obama can admit he made a mistake with Daschle, but say nothing about Geithner or the other tax cheats in his Cabinet?
Daschle may not have been the one he wanted in -- he figured if the majority of whom he picked made it through, why worry about the one that didn't? Big deal.
Daschle may not have been the one he wanted in -- he figured if the majority of whom he picked made it through, why worry about the one that didn't? Big deal.
Also take note, this bill talks a lot about job creation, not much in the way of job maintaining - so how does this help the Dows of the nation who are laying of workers in quite high numbers? It offers money to state government to keep state government employees, but what about my manufacturing facility? No can do. Now I know they are using a multiplier for their job creation number, and I do the same thing when I go to our socialist in charge Gov. as 1 job in my plant supports 4 others in the State economy (grocery store workers, going out to eat, shopping in malls, etc.). That said, this bill doesn't take into consideration the time factor necessary to get this money going to big evil corporations who pay big evil paychecks to it's employees. It also doesn't take into consideration that these "infrastructure" projects fall under OSHA rules and inspections - if not enough money goes toward inspectors or safety managers, the jobs won't happen at the rate necessary to boost the economy like they want. If they decide to go ahead and hire the OSHA inspectors (government position, so it's likely), and the projects themselves do spend the money on a safety manager, that is less money going to the project itself, which results in less labor required. Methinks the boneheads in congress haven't worked much so they haven't a clue how this all shakes out. More surprising, the Unions think the Dems have their best interests at heart versus evil Rethuglicans like me who just doesn't care about the little guy.
Did not one of the congress critters take a look at the fact that skilled trades in America are needed, most especially in Gulf Coast states? If me MUST spend money we don't have, could it not have been in the form of training grants to these companies? Heck, if I'd gotten something like that, I'd have no issue sending 5 of my employees to school, and sponsor 2 others to learn a trade solely for these infrastructure projects!
Looks like the Artist behind the Hope posters was arrested not sure on the reason. Will try and provide link in an hour or so when i get home on my way out hte door now.
No - they are going to vote early this week on it, but they have "commitment" from 3 republicans (Snowe, Collins, and Specter) to vote for it - which means they have 60.
Aren't these supposed to be the enlightened members of the Republican party? The real intelligent, socially progressive ones? From my vantage point it is these types that are killing the party. Obama hails them as PATRIOTS for Christ sakes.
The supposedly unintelligent social conservatives at least are bright enough to oppose this utterly wasteful piece of legislation.
When we talk about who should or should not be in the party, for me the first litmus test is being a fiscal conservative and having the backbone to stand firm against this kind of crap.
Well over 100 people dead and 750 houses destroyed in the state of Victoria due to wildfires and 30% of Australia in the tropics under water due to torrential rain.
Looks like the Artist behind the Hope posters was arrested not sure on the reason. Will try and provide link in an hour or so when i get home on my way out hte door now.
The suspension of aid was in response to armed Hamas militants on Thursday stealing hundreds of tons of food intended for Palestinians by armed Hamas militants.
Also this week, the U.N. reversed its earlier claims that Israeli Defense Forces had bombed a school in Gaza administered by the United Nations Relief Works Agency (UNRWA). On Tuesday, the U.N.'s Office for Humanitarian Affairs issued a report on the Jan. 6 incident that claimed the lives of 43 Palestinians, stating that "the shelling, and all of the fatalities, took place outside rather than inside the school."
re: #397 Wyatt Earp
WHAT?! Owe Al Gore an apology?! NEVER! That crook has cost the World Billions if not Trillions of dollars with his psuedo scientific BS.
Glad to hear it's nice weather in the Division. Local weather channel said it's gonna be warmer in NYC than down here today!
You working on any ususual cases?
re: #398 Geepers
Well I'm glad you're having nice weather too, but I'm gonna have to work on my e-mail skills - tried to send out an e-mail to about 20 people, addressed to me with everyone else (including you) as a BCC. Rats.
Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (50 degrees, going up to 72 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?!
Good morning, Realwest!
don't know about everybody else, but I'm doing great this morning!
It's helped that we have had about a week of the most beautiful weather anybody could ever hope for - cool evenings, pleasant days (65-70), dry and sunny - just gorgeous weather!
WHAT?! Owe Al Gore an apology?! NEVER! That crook has cost the World Billions if not Trillions of dollars with his psuedo scientific BS.
Glad to hear it's nice weather in the Division. Local weather channel said it's gonna be warmer in NYC than down here today!
You working on any ususual cases?
Yep. I'm working on the case of the very tired detective. :) First day on the daywork tour is always the toughest.
Well I'm glad you're having nice weather too, but I'm gonna have to work on my e-mail skills - tried to send out an e-mail to about 20 people, addressed to me with everyone else (including you) as a BCC. Rats.
I have to correct something I posted yesterday about Arlen Specter. I said that perhaps one explanation for his vote for the porkfest package is that it contained language that would help his dairy farmers.
I just found out that he never got that language in. Members of his staff that I'm speaking with are running scared - as they should be - apparently the office is being inundated with calls/emails from constiuents incandescent with anger (keep it up, btw) - and are seriously worried about a primary fight - forget the general election.
I have to correct something I posted yesterday about Arlen Specter. I said that perhaps one explanation for his vote for the porkfest package is that it contained language that would help his dairy farmers.
I just found out that he never got that language in. Members of his staff that I'm speaking with are running scared - as they should be - apparently the office is being inundated with calls/emails from constiuents incandescent with anger (keep it up, btw) - and are seriously worried about a primary fight - forget the general election.
I have to correct something I posted yesterday about Arlen Specter. I said that perhaps one explanation for his vote for the porkfest package is that it contained language that would help his dairy farmers.
I just found out that he never got that language in. Members of his staff that I'm speaking with are running scared - as they should be - apparently the office is being inundated with calls/emails from constiuents incandescent with anger (keep it up, btw) - and are seriously worried about a primary fight - forget the general election.
ooh.
I like the sound of that!
The people fighting back.
good news.
re: #390 alien_mind
IF it makes you feel any better, McCain gave a "blistering speech" about Obama and bi-partisanship the other day! LOL!
What I don't understand is that when all 175 Republican members of the House voted against this pork bill, they were called "partisan". When the Senate voted, the MSM was crowing (and so was Obama) about the bi-partisan nature of the vote (cause those three RINOS voted for it) but no one mentioned that ALL of the Dem's in the Senate voted for it as well. They even flew Teddy Kennedy up from his hospital bed and wheeled Robert Byrd in to the Senate in his wheelchair in case they needed their votes. But because Specter, Snowe and Collins all voted for it, the Dems didn't need Teddy.
BTW, a few other LGFers - who's initial charge was led by Killer Tomato - wrote or e-mailed the three stooges about their support of the bill. We were, I'm told (and I certainly was) polite. Specter's office sent me a form e-mail saying he was too busy to read anything sent to him by folks who don't live in PA. Collins and Snowe never got back to anyone.
Well over 100 people dead and 750 houses destroyed in the state of Victoria due to wildfires and 30% of Australia in the tropics under water due to torrential rain.
Hello Crux
Such a tragedy, and it's just awful to see photos of the devastation - and to hear survivors speak about the horrors they went through
My friend in Townsville now has a lake in her backyard, apparently the pool has disappeared - she's also wondering if she has mould growing on her as it's on everything else!
ooh.
I like the sound of that!
The people fighting back.
good news.
I reside in Virginia, not Pennsylvania, but I was born in PA. However, hubby the evil lobbyist and I - as nonmanaging partner of our business - have done fundraising for him. Hubby and I are about to have a talk.
He's got some staff people who are absolutely wonderful. He doesn't deserve them.
re: #401 reine.de.tout
Good morning reine! I must say I'm happy for you - that's sorta the forecast for N.C. too for the next week or so!
Geez I sure hope the forecasters get it right THIS time around! LOL!
And I'm even happier to hear that you're doing great, yourself!
Such a tragedy, and it's just awful to see photos of the devastation - and to hear survivors speak about the horrors they went through
My friend in Townsville now has a lake in her backyard, apparently the pool has disappeared - she's also wondering if she has mould growing on her as it's on everything else!
Aussie & Crux -
Yes, a terrible tragedy.
Saw a news report yesterday that they are finding people in their cars - overwhelmed by the fires before they could get out.
How horrible.
I reside in Virginia, not Pennsylvania, but I was born in PA. However, hubby the evil lobbyist and I - as nonmanaging partner of our business - have done fundraising for him. Hubby and I are about to have a talk.
He's got some staff people who are absolutely wonderful. He doesn't deserve them.
My guess is that you're talking about Specter, not your hubby!
I do like hearing that he seems to be "running scared" right now. Our elected officials need to get that message from time to time; it seems to me they often forget that they are merely representatives of us.
re: #404 wahabicorridor
Good morning {wahabi} - I'm very surprised at that news - the Dems needed Specter's vote so badly I'm surprised they wouldn't give it to him. What choice do the Dairy Farmers in PA have now if a long-term powerful "swing vote" like Specter couldn't get it passed?
To our Australian friends...y'all are in my prayers. The loss of life and devastation is just horrible.
Re: Being stimulated (that's what it's called, isn't it?)
I'm at a loss here on who else to email about this gigantic Screw the American People (SAP) bill.
My senators are Bill Nelson (yippee) and Mel Martinez who is jumping ship at the end of his term anyway and could probably care less.
Do we have contact information to Steele or anyone else we should contact who can perhaps talk some sense into the 3 who have apparently lost their minds?
Good morning {wahabi} - I'm very surprised at that news - the Dems needed Specter's vote so badly I'm surprised they wouldn't give it to him. What choice do the Dairy Farmers in PA have now if a long-term powerful "swing vote" like Specter couldn't get it passed?
I gather you're referring to the dairy language? I don't know why it didn't get in, exactly. I've heard around 5 different stories and none of them are about Dem vs. Repub.
re: #408 aussiemagpie
Good morning {Maggy} - gee whiz, y'all are really having a tough time of it Down Under! I wish I had a darned Atlas handy so I could keep up with what's happening where - used to have one - a BIG one - right next to my 'puter in NYC, but somehow it never made it down here when we moved - gonna have to replace it I guess.
Are you safe from the fires - and from drowning? Gee, Godawful fires in one place and Godawful rain and flooding elsewhere - what do you guys think, you're living in California or something?!?
*smooch* - I seriously wish you and all Aussies the very best of luck and hope the rain moves over to where the fires are!
To our Australian friends...y'all are in my prayers. The loss of life and devastation is just horrible.
Re: Being stimulated (that's what it's called, isn't it?)
I'm at a loss here on who else to email about this gigantic Screw the American People (SAP) bill.
My senators are Bill Nelson (yippee) and Mel Martinez who is jumping ship at the end of his term anyway and could probably care less.
Do we have contact information to Steele or anyone else we should contact who can perhaps talk some sense into the 3 who have apparently lost their minds?
Unfortunately of the mindless (collins) just won re election. I would think that in this one instance snowe might be more careful as she has less time to live this down. I feared from the beginning that those two rinos would disgrace us mainers.
Aussie & Crux -
Yes, a terrible tragedy.
Saw a news report yesterday that they are finding people in their cars - overwhelmed by the fires before they could get out.
How horrible.
Hello {reine}
It's been a very sad day
The photos of burnt out cars on roads are awful, as are the truly terrible scenes of destruction - whole towns just wiped out
And yet up north in Far North Queensland, there are floods!
re: #422 wahabicorridor
Yes, I was talking about the "Dairy Language" - and I'm still kinda - well more than kinda - surprised it didn't get in - of all the 5 stories you've heard as to why it didn't, did any of them seem more credible than the others? I mean, who doesn't like Dairy Farmers, for cryin' out loud?
Is that the norm for when something like the "Stimulus Bill" is going on or is he like that all the time?
It's the norm for every member of Congress. When we schedule 'fly-ins' for our clients to meet with members, we try to match up our clients with members that represent the state they live in or a state their company does business in.
It's not always doable. Part of my job is making members' schedulers miserable.
re: #427 Wyatt Earp GACK!
I could handle the 05:45 bit, but changing every two weeks would get my biological clock to stop running! I mean, how the heck do you DO that? That's such a huge swing in the hours you're normally awake (or at least in the hours I'm normally awake!). Do ya just have to do it for a while and then your body gets used to it?
To our Australian friends...y'all are in my prayers. The loss of life and devastation is just horrible.
Re: Being stimulated (that's what it's called, isn't it?)
I'm at a loss here on who else to email about this gigantic Screw the American People (SAP) bill.
My senators are Bill Nelson (yippee) and Mel Martinez who is jumping ship at the end of his term anyway and could probably care less.
Do we have contact information to Steele or anyone else we should contact who can perhaps talk some sense into the 3 who have apparently lost their minds?
Hi - thanks and yes, it's a tragedy - our worst bushfires ever...
When Obama gets his PorkBill passed by frightening people, the recession officially becomes his and the Democrats. Since the PorkBill is unlikely to help, and more likely to hurt, the GOP will be able to run against the Obama Recession asking a simple question, "Are you better off than you were four years ago?"
re: #433 newsjunkie_ky
Good morning {news} - a Facebook group? Aside from only having a vague idea of what a Facebook anything is, is it really LGFer's in that group?
Oh, and how are you doing today? Weather much improved, I hope?!
GACK!
I could handle the 05:45 bit, but changing every two weeks would get my biological clock to stop running! I mean, how the heck do you DO that? That's such a huge swing in the hours you're normally awake (or at least in the hours I'm normally awake!). Do ya just have to do it for a while and then your body gets used to it?
Most of us joke that we get used to day work the day before we start night work. :)
The bast*rds actually relit some fires that had been controlled!
As Victorian Premier John Brumby yesterday broke down in tears over the horrifying events, South Australian Premier Mike Rann described the arsonists as "terrorists".
When Obama gets his PorkBill passed by frightening people, the recession officially becomes his and the Democrats. Since the PorkBill is unlikely to help, and more likely to hurt, the GOP will be able to run against the Obama Recession asking a simple question, "Are you better off than you were four years ago?"
Unfortunately the RINO's did what he needed, they got some changes and made it "bi-partisan" now he'll blame it on not getting what he asked for. It looked like maybe the rebubs had grown a backbone and it was scaring the shit out of him. The speeches he gave at the end of the week showed how desparate he was. They could have made sure that the dems owned this debacle. Pisses me off that they passed on a golden opportunity
Good morning {Maggy} - gee whiz, y'all are really having a tough time of it Down Under! I wish I had a darned Atlas handy so I could keep up with what's happening where - used to have one - a BIG one - right next to my 'puter in NYC, but somehow it never made it down here when we moved - gonna have to replace it I guess.
Are you safe from the fires - and from drowning? Gee, Godawful fires in one place and Godawful rain and flooding elsewhere - what do you guys think, you're living in California or something?!?
*smooch* - I seriously wish you and all Aussies the very best of luck and hope the rain moves over to where the fires are!
*Smooch* {darlsl} and we're safe and sound in suburban Sydney, although we live near bush and we did have some embers come over during a bushfire a few years back that roared past our suburb onto the next one where a number of homes were lost
These bushfires in Victoria, are the worst ones ever experienced here, 96 people confirmed dead and people are still missing
Morning all.
Just read the stories about the fire in Australia. Unbelievable that people actually re-lit the fires/lit new ones during a catastrophe that had already cost so many lives. Arson is one crime that I'll never, ever understand.
Yes, I was talking about the "Dairy Language" - and I'm still kinda - well more than kinda - surprised it didn't get in - of all the 5 stories you've heard as to why it didn't, did any of them seem more credible than the others? I mean, who doesn't like Dairy Farmers, for cryin' out loud?
Morning Real. Back to what you were taliking about yesterday, some kind of sanction against Senators Collins, Snow & Spector.
A way to handle it might be to deny them the committees that they want.
Do you recall how much Spector wanted to Chair the Judiciary Committee?
He even pleaded & sobed that he would be a good Soldier. He didn't stick to it & in a lot of ways supported Democrats
re: #438 wahabicorridor
" Part of my job is making members' schedulers miserable." I don't know if it's true or fantasy, but when I read that I had the distinct impression that your statement was made with some glee! LOL!
Ok, here's another son of a bitch that needs lynching.
THE doctor who sparked the scare over the safety of the MMR vaccine for children changed and misreported results in his research, creating the appearance of a possible link with autism, a Sunday Times investigation has found.
Confidential medical documents and interviews with witnesses have established that Andrew Wakefield manipulated patients’ data, which triggered fears that the MMR triple vaccine to protect against measles, mumps and rubella was linked to the condition.
The research was published in February 1998 in an article in The Lancet medical journal. It claimed that the families of eight out of 12 children attending a routine clinic at the hospital had blamed MMR for their autism, and said that problems came on within days of the jab. The team also claimed to have discovered a new inflammatory bowel disease underlying the children’s conditions.
However, our investigation, confirmed by evidence presented to the General Medical Council (GMC), reveals that: In most of the 12 cases, the children’s ailments as described in The Lancet were different from their hospital and GP records
" Part of my job is making members' schedulers miserable." I don't know if it's true or fantasy, but when I read that I had the distinct impression that your statement was made with some glee! LOL!
re: #440 taxfreekiller
Dear TFK - the Democrats voted UNANIMOUSLY for the Pork Bill - the news played the Senate vote up as bi-parisan cause Collins, Snowe and Specter voted for it, but EVERY SINGLE DEM voted for it. I think we got maybe 8 Dems in the House to vote against it. Face it my friend, The Dems won BIG in the last election and they want it all and they want it NOW: [Link: www.imeem.com...]
They're terrorists and yes, should be charged with murder
Some other suggestions on what to do with these arsonists from message boards are unprintable on this family blog!
so sorry to here abt. this devastation in your country.
arsonists are the worst type of coward. they have no idea who or what they will harm. they are just hell bent on destruction.
there is something so sinister abt a person like that. in some ways they are worse than a regular criminal.
total disregard for anyone or anything. they are like terrorists.
Dear TFK - the Democrats voted UNANIMOUSLY for the Pork Bill - the news played the Senate vote up as bi-parisan cause Collins, Snowe and Specter voted for it, but EVERY SINGLE DEM voted for it. I think we got maybe 8 Dems in the House to vote against it. Face it my friend, The Dems won BIG in the last election and they want it all and they want it NOW: [Link: www.imeem.com...]
Chris Wallace just asked Sneator Cornyn & anothe GOP Senator if the GOP may look too partisan to the American peopkle being so solid against the Stimuluis package.
I really wanted Cornyn to say, "Well how do the Democrats look being so solid for this fradulent theft?"
Lizard Prayer List 2/8/09
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope
Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.
Community issues:
Our country going forward
Our troops
Israel
Georgia/Ossetia
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice
Thanksgivings
knitwit: mother’s peaceful passing after long illness
HoosierHoops: son Jordan deployed to Japan instead of Afghanistan & grandchild on the way
BaseballMom57: husband recovering at home
Vxbush: health issues diagnosed
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans
Health issues:
Hoppes: has sick children, lost her MIL, and is very stressed
Kenneth: mom diagnosed with cancer and has been told she has a matter of weeks left.
UberInfidel67: brothers health after polyps removal
Aussiemagpie: children with health issues
Walter Cronanty: son with recurrence of leukemia & recovering from bone marrow transplant.
logboy: recovery from injuries received in combat in Iraq
Dublin(CA)Dude – extensive cancer
gettinby: sister diagnosed with Sjogren’s Syndrome
Yochanan: d-i-l (ronite bas golda) undergoing surgery.
Knitwit: niece Elizabeth has a nasty MRSA infection after orthopedic surgery
tfc3rid: gf's 89 year old grandmother (suffered a a large stroke and is in rehab) and her uncle who is suffering from throat cancer; and continued prayers for dad who has MS
Typicalwhitey: father’s undergoing tests for pancreatic cancer
MNsnowlizard: Had open heart surgery in February (35 years old) and could be facing another one
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
mikeymom: sister suffered a stroke
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father back in the hospital
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain, having gone from bad to worse
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer /cont’d
Dear TFK - the Democrats voted UNANIMOUSLY for the Pork Bill - the news played the Senate vote up as bi-parisan cause Collins, Snowe and Specter voted for it, but EVERY SINGLE DEM voted for it. I think we got maybe 8 Dems in the House to vote against it. Face it my friend, The Dems won BIG in the last election and they want it all and they want it NOW: [Link: www.imeem.com...]
unCivil War in DC...these lunatics are playing politics with our lives and fortune...I've written everybody I can think of...Those Three need to explain themselves to the voters...probably won't happen
Lizard Prayer List, cont’d: Family, friend, and life situations:
Safe travels for those traveling to lobby for Heart Defect Research 2/10/09
Lizards in need of particular career opportunities.
Vxbush: two Lizard friends dealing with big issues
Army Green since '92: post has lost three soldiers in Afghanistan; friends deploying there next week.
yma o hyd: ease the grief of friend who lost her husband of 59 years
Taqiyyotomist: strength in difficult times
FBV: that the unknowns find fulfillment
Vxbush: daughter’s financial issues
Yochanan: son in IDF
Bcgirl: sponsored child, Alia in Egypt
Wyatt Earp: Uncle Joe; prostate cancer returned
West Texas: brother’s decision
Victor_yugo: job
laZardo: strength of purpose
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: mom home from the hospital but may be regressing
A Kiwi Infidel: Natasha and her husband mourning the loss of the younger child.
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
neocon hippie: grieving for big black kitty, Ripple
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Asperger’s (mild autism)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
jcm: previous foster daughters going back with families; new 5-week-old foster daughter.
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: strength for kids and her dealing with EH.
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general
What kind of sick fu people would do that? Does Oz have the death penalty for murder?
No death penalty here - and if these basta*ds are ever caught, I can imagine the public outcry if they're given the usual slap on the wrist with a feather by sympathetic magistrates who feel sorry for all crooks, and ignore the victims
Good morning {news} - a Facebook group? Aside from only having a vague idea of what a Facebook anything is, is it really LGFer's in that group?
Oh, and how are you doing today? Weather much improved, I hope?!
Hey RW, weather has improved. Snow is gone, temps in 50s with 60s tomorrow.
I don't know if it is realy LGFers, because they are real names, not nics. But the web address is for LGF.
Hope NC weather is good and you are doing well.
Babysat Granddaughter yesterday and will again today overnight, so won't be on computer much today.
so sorry to here abt. this devastation in your country.
arsonists are the worst type of coward. they have no idea who or what they will harm. they are just hell bent on destruction.
there is something so sinister abt a person like that. in some ways they are worse than a regular criminal.
total disregard for anyone or anything. they are like terrorists.
Vandals and arsonists just want to destroy for the power rush it gives them. Their lack of empathy makes them very dangerous human beings.
Terrorists are dangerous human beings because they not only lack empathy but they also attribute a holy goal to their destruction.
Thanks for your update on Specter. A family member shared this email from Penn:
On Sunday, February 8, 2009, Concerned Republicans who oppose Senator Specter's position on this important bill will gather in front of the Federal Courthouse in Allentown. The purpose of the rally is to persuade Specter that his position is not in the best interest of the citizens of Pennsylvania and America and certainly not in the interest in Republicans who believe that individual freedom, personal responsibility and limited government are principles that will be severely compromised by this bill.
Floppingaces reports on things happening in that area, so hopefully we will see some photos or a write up on how it went later on today.
I assume that that Obama ad has pretty much run it's course by now anyway.
The bummer is that this will probably give that dingleberry even more cred with the Lefties. I'm still glad that he got busted and had to spend some quality time in jail, but it's only graffiti so I don't expect anything big to come of it.
Dear TFK - the Democrats voted UNANIMOUSLY for the Pork Bill - the news played the Senate vote up as bi-parisan cause Collins, Snowe and Specter voted for it, but EVERY SINGLE DEM voted for it. I think we got maybe 8 Dems in the House to vote against it. Face it my friend, The Dems won BIG in the last election and they want it all and they want it NOW: [Link: www.imeem.com...]
And, if I'm remembering correctly, 11 House dems voted NO along with all Rs in Congress. Isn't that bi-partisanship?
Just logged on and read about the terrible man-made tragedy down there. My condolences to the all of the victims. I consider Australia a brother in arms for the U.S. Lizardoid army.
Not that it matters for the final deserved punishment (whatever it may be) but are these anarchist, "Earth Firsters", or just plain mean b*st*rds?
Mara Liason (sp) on FNC is saying that White House sources told her that, if Daschle did not read the NYT & withdraw Omaba was willing to continue to support his appointment & go to the wall for it.
Ok then, what was the apology for a mistake all about. If it was a mistake, why was he willing to go to the wall?
Mara Liason (sp) on FNC is saying that White House sources told her that, if Daschle did not read the NYT & withdraw Omaba was willing to continue to support his appointment & go to the wall for it.
Ok then, what was the apology for a mistake all about. If it was a mistake, why was he willing to go to the wall?
Morning all.
Just read the stories about the fire in Australia. Unbelievable that people actually re-lit the fires/lit new ones during a catastrophe that had already cost so many lives. Arson is one crime that I'll never, ever understand.
Hard to imagine the thought processes of these people isn't it?
Vandals and arsonists just want to destroy for the power rush it gives them. Their lack of empathy makes them very dangerous human beings.
Terrorists are dangerous human beings because they not only lack empathy but they also attribute a holy goal to their destruction.
islamic terrorists certainly are as you described.
my feeling here is that these arsonists have indeed terrorized for what ever reason.
i'm looking at how the victims feel.
and any group can take on terrorist tactics no matter what their 'religious' ideology is.
Unfortunately the RINO's did what he needed, they got some changes and made it "bi-partisan" now he'll blame it on not getting what he asked for. It looked like maybe the rebubs had grown a backbone and it was scaring the shit out of him. The speeches he gave at the end of the week showed how desparate he was. They could have made sure that the dems owned this debacle. Pisses me off that they passed on a golden opportunity
This is a strong argument for getting rid of RINO's. Some defend the RINO's because it's better to have a GOPer vote with us sometimes than a Dem. Yeah, but when the RINO votes against the GOP, the RINO can screw things up big time. Like this time. Let the chips fall and let the American people have a clear choice.
I have never heard her make a coherent argument or statement.
She is always stretching to sound like she knows what she is talking about, but I think she just always sounds stupid.
This is a strong argument for getting rid of RINO's. Some defend the RINO's because it's better to have a GOPer vote with us sometimes than a Dem. Yeah, but when the RINO votes against the GOP, the RINO can screw things up big time. Like this time. Let the chips fall and let the American people have a clear choice.
I'd rather have a principled Dem, such as Sen. Lieberman, than a RINO. I've been disgusted with Specter (*spit*) since he voted "not proven" in impeachment. I am going to fight harder to get someone to stand against him in the primary.
re: #445 Edge That will work ok, BUT ONLY if the Republicans don't support this (non)Stimulus Bill.
If there is bi-partisan support, then the Dems will a) blame it on Bush and b) say that it was a bi-partisan effort to save the economy why are the voters pissed off at the Dems?
That's one reason out of many, why Republicans should not support this bill.
I'd rather have a principled Dem, such as Sen. Lieberman, than a RINO. I've been disgusted with Specter (*spit*) since he voted "not proven" in impeachment. I am going to fight harder to get someone to stand against him in the primary.
Pat Twoomey (a good man, by the way) almost beat him in the last primary. We were very excited about it for a while. Then Specter won.
Yeah, I'm regretting my vote for Collins. the alternative was bad but you're right at this point we really need to send a message. there really isn't much difference between the parties, I think we need a new conservative party.
I have never heard her make a coherent argument or statement.
She is always stretching to sound like she knows what she is talking about, but I think she just always sounds stupid.
She seems to torture logic to make the Dems look good.
She was actually trying to make Obama look heroic for choosing & standing by a tax cheat, even though Obama said, 'I made a mistake."
She seems to torture logic to make the Dems look good. . . .
Yes, you are absolutely correct!
The worst part (or best part, depending on your POV) - she has no clue whatsoever how stupid she sounds. None. I get the feeling she thinks she is brilliant.
I'd rather have a principled Dem, such as Sen. Lieberman, than a RINO. I've been disgusted with Specter (*spit*) since he voted "not proven" in impeachment. I am going to fight harder to get someone to stand against him in the primary.
As I recall, Santorum (sp) went all out to get Specter reelected, but Specter didn't return the favor for him.
re: #460 opnion
Yup. That's why I took some time off from LGF for a while to write to Michael Steele at RNC headquarters and it might not hurt if WE ALL DID THAT. His e-mail addy is at wahabbicorridors #444.
so sorry to here abt. this devastation in your country.
arsonists are the worst type of coward. they have no idea who or what they will harm. they are just hell bent on destruction.
there is something so sinister abt a person like that. in some ways they are worse than a regular criminal.
total disregard for anyone or anything. they are like terrorists.
Hi, and it's quite distressing to see the devastation in Victoria - the towns wiped out were beautiful places, a really gorgeous part of Victoria
As for the arsonists, there is a lot of anger as you can imagine
Btw Here is the li for Fairey's arrest.(The Obama Hope Poster Designer)
Fairey, a 38-year-old known for his countercultural style, was arrested on two outstanding warrants and was being held at a police station, according to a police official with knowledge of the arrest who requested anonymity.
Police could not describe the nature of the outstanding warrants last night, but said they were based in Massachusetts.
Fairey has been arrested at least 14 times, he has told the Globe.
Yes, you are absolutely correct!
The worst part (or best part, depending on your POV) - she has no clue whatsoever how stupid she sounds. None. I get the feeling she thinks she is brilliant.
Liberals do seem to have an "I'm smarter than you are" attitude.
If you query them, usually they are uninformed & really just "feel."
re: #464 aussiemagpie
Uh, Aussie, while I've already and continue to pray for the safety of all Australians, you never answered my question re: the arsonits: Does Australia have the Death Penalty for Intentional Homocide (Murder) ?!
Looks like the Messiah is waffling on Afghanistan because he doesn't have a "coherant plan and exit strategy". In other words, he wants guarantees.
Why?
Obama promised an extra 7,000-10,000 troops during the election campaign but the military has inflated its demands. Leading Democrats fear Afghanistan could become Obama's "Vietnam quagmire."
God forbid we should do anything that might knock the bloom off. Gotta maintain that shiney veneer at all costs... even if it means letting our enemy get a foothold.
Gotta go, my Mother in law isn't eating or drinking again, apparently my honey is the only one that can convince her to eat.
goddessoftheclassroom, maybe you could add her to your list. I'm worried about her
Gotta go, my Mother in law isn't eating or drinking again, apparently my honey is the only one that can convince her to eat.
goddessoftheclassroom, maybe you could add her to your list. I'm worried about her
Yup. That's why I took some time off from LGF for a while to write to Michael Steele at RNC headquarters and it might not hurt if WE ALL DID THAT. His e-mail addy is at wahabbicorridors #444.
I think that Mitch McConnel is the target, he has more say in committee assignments. Steel has influence, but his main job is raising money.
Morning, Lizards. Haven't been on in awhile, but just got a chance to read Charles Krauthammer in the WaPo. Was it posted and discussed already?
Great article!
re: #472 opnion
AMEN to that one. People - especially the MSM - overlook the fact that ALL OF THE DEMS voted for this bill. That is the definition of partisanship.
BTW, how can you stand to watch him?
:)
Protests erupted in popular ski resort of Gulmarg with angry local groups beating up a foreign skiier whom they suspected of being an Israeli after his sledge was found to be inscribed with verses from the holy Qur'an.
Reports said that the people spotted the 'Kalima-e Tayyaba', or the basic creed of Islam, inscribed over the bottom of the ski sledge of one Hans Patrick, a skier who had come from Sweden to holiday on the slopes of Gulmarg.
Locals in the snow bound resort, packed with tourists from all over the world, erupted in protest, and some groups pounced on the tourist, beating him up.
But the foreigner was rescued by the police who took him under their custody.
[...]
...an official spokesman here said that the sticker carrying the holy words had been given to the tourist by his wife, a Qatari Muslim, for his protection, but he had unknowingly used it incorrectly.
"Hotels here are packed with tourists. They are all safe -- nobody was touched by the protesters,"...
...and with that, please, do have a wonderful day.
Just logged on and read about the terrible man-made tragedy down there. My condolences to the all of the victims. I consider Australia a brother in arms for the U.S. Lizardoid army.
Not that it matters for the final deserved punishment (whatever it may be) but are these anarchist, "Earth Firsters", or just plain mean b*st*rds?
Hi, unfortunately no one has been caught yet, so we don't know who these arsonists are
every time he is arrested the price of his "art" goes up.
this is free publicity for the s.o.b.
the kind that can't be bought.
lone artist persecuted for his views.
Looks like the Messiah is waffling on Afghanistan because he doesn't have a "coherant plan and exit strategy". In other words, he wants guarantees.
Why?
God forbid we should do anything that might knock the bloom off. Gotta maintain that shiney veneer at all costs... even if it means letting our enemy get a foothold.
Bridges designed and built by amateurs? Hahahahahahahahaha^100. Construction deaths alone would kill thousands. The lawsuits would bankrupt the states. Unless they way over build you're looking at some unsafe stuff being put into place. Suspect that substandard materials would also be the norm. We'd be yanking out the crap and replacing it five years after the installation.
AMEN to that one. People - especially the MSM - overlook the fact that ALL OF THE DEMS voted for this bill. That is the definition of partisanship.
BTW, how can you stand to watch him?
:)
I am building character. A real test is up now, Bawney ,slup! spit! Fwank is now on Meet the Press>
Gotta go, my Mother in law isn't eating or drinking again, apparently my honey is the only one that can convince her to eat.
goddessoftheclassroom, maybe you could add her to your list. I'm worried about her
As an RN, you bring so much to your patients--what a gift. You are especially in my prayers today along with all those in danger from the wild fires.
Thanks {goddessoftheclassroom} - and yours and my prayers are certainly with those poor people who have lost loved ones, homes, pets, livelihoods, and in some cases their whole towns
Why are the Republicans not attacking the Community Reinvestment Act & the Democrat intimidation to promote it? Everyone agrees that the toxic loans are largely responsible for this mess. Barney Frank & Chris Dodd are poster boys for the corruption, yet the now scream & pontificate.
On a completely unrelated note, anyone see the footage of A-Rod being interviewed by Couric in 2007?
It's scary that someone can lie so well, with no hesitation, while knowing that they are being watched by millions of people. If he didn't play baseball, he'd probably be a Senator by now.
Why are the Republicans not attacking the Community Reinvestment Act & the Democrat intimidation to promote it? Everyone agrees that the toxic loans are largely responsible for this mess. Barney Frank & Chris Dodd are poster boys for the corruption, yet the now scream & pontificate.
How are these toads allowed to criticize other members of Congress when they're the ones responsible for this mess in the first place?!
Uh, Aussie, while I've already and continue to pray for the safety of all Australians, you never answered my question re: the arsonits: Does Australia have the Death Penalty for Intentional Homocide (Murder) ?!
Now darls, I did answer you question :-) I think...
re: #486 newsjunkie_ky
Yes it is, but since the Senate has only 100 members as opposed to the 435 in the House, the turnaround of 3 Republicans, when the Dems already hold 58 seats means that the Senate Vote was truly "bipartisan" or at least that's the way Obama's gonna play it.
BTW - why do you think that certain measures of this "desperately needed NOW" Stimulus Bill are sheduled to go into effect in 2010 and 2012 - cause in 2010 the Dems have to runfor the House again and in 2012 Obama is presumably gonna run for re-election. That is the only real reason why those provisions kick in two years or so down the road when the economy supposedly needs to be stimulated NOW.
We were drowning in that acronym during the last election cycle. The problem, is that every Republican has a different interpretation of what a "RINO" is... and they make that interpretation purely on the basis of their own personal ideology.
One mans' RINO is another mans' moderate.
/not trying to stir up shit, just thinking aloud this morning
re: #505 taxfreekiller
TFK! Well I'm not for blowing up dams or streets, but you are spot on with your observation:
"What we are doing now sure as hell is not working."
Claire McCasskil ,who is the proverbial individual who could not find her ass with a road map is now saying, that the danger on stimulus is doing nothing.
You know don't look at , even if it is a bad bill, DO IT!
Claire McCasskil ,who is the proverbial individual who could not find her ass with a road map is now saying, that the danger on stimulus is doing nothing.
You know don't look at , even if it is a bad bill, DO IT!
That's right. Remember that the next time you are hungry and the fridge is empty.
Just head to the litter box and feast on cat turds.
Eating shit is better than eating nothing, right Claire?
re: #539 opnion
SO - contact Mitch and Steele - btw, Steele does have some real power - he not only raises funds for the RNC, but has a HUGE say in which candidates GET those funds, too.
What does the weather forecast look like - any chance for a break in the heat in high winds?
Here's hoping things take a turn for the better.
Hi, it cooled right down in the fire region early Sunday morning, however the place is so dry after drought and heatwaves so we can only pray for heavy rain
SO - contact Mitch and Steele - btw, Steele does have some real power - he not only raises funds for the RNC, but has a HUGE say in which candidates GET those funds, too.
Your talking about campaigns & you are right about that. The RNC can fund challengers to the three. Specter is particulary vulnerable.
McConnell can whack them now.
Why are the Republicans not attacking the Community Reinvestment Act & the Democrat intimidation to promote it? Everyone agrees that the toxic loans are largely responsible for this mess. Barney Frank & Chris Dodd are poster boys for the corruption, yet the now scream & pontificate.
Barney Frank is a humiliation - a disgrace. And yet there he is - controlling monetary decisions and speaking on TV like nothing happened. Free pass from our unprofessional press.
Insofar as an economic downturn has traceable causes, the present recession seems to have origins in the behavior of at least three groups of people: reckless lenders, who encouraged people to spend their money irresponsibly; reckless borrowers, who took their advice and spent well outside the limits of need and the ability to repay; and a government which at times encouraged such behavior through organizations such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Barney Frank (the first domino in the housing crisis) says:
“These two entities—Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
"Turns out that the two government-sponsored entities were walking farther and farther out onto thin financial ice. And as late as last year, Frank wanted Fannie and Freddie to take on even more subprime risk. Washington and Wall Street have to share the blame for the financial crisis."
I remember Phil, very well. Those are the years I spent at home having my babies and taking care of them. He was the one who kept telling me what a waste of time it was...
At least Phil had Milton on his show. Today we get idiots like Tina Fey who write in their stupid scrips the banter and mocking of any conservative - name dropping without actually know what they are mocking. Proggie-liberal idiots.
I doing my best to teach them to THINK for themselves, though!
MEMO TO: God
FROM: G. By
SUBJECT: Teachers
If you can possibly find some extra time while addressing the many, many problems enveloping our little earth, could you please find another gazillion or so teachers like goddess?
Larry Summers on ABC this morning. This is one of the few actual smart guys on the Obama team, and mixed in with intelligent talk is Obamanation neo-Stalinism, scapegoating Republicans and Bush for all problems, and pretending that the government has the power to create even a *single* job, much less three million of them. The thing is, Summers must know he is mouthing lies. He KNOWS, and does it anyway. What a scumbag.
Senator Ensign just said, "it is the housing crisis that is dragging the economy down. That is why the bill should target housing"
Makes sense. Bawney is now in some slurping rant blaming Bush for the mess.
Congressman Pence is now blaming Congress for the mess. Fwank looks as uncomfotable as a hooker in Church.
Larry Summers on ABC this morning. This is one of the few actual smart guys on the Obama team, and mixed in with intelligent talk is Obamanation neo-Stalinism, scapegoating Republicans and Bush for all problems, and pretending that the government has the power to create even a *single* job, much less three million of them. The thing is, Summers must know he is mouthing lies. He KNOWS, and does it anyway. What a scumbag.
First qualification to be in Obama's administration.
re: #550 Beach Lover
Hi ya {Beach Lover} - it's good to see you out here again! It is a truly beautiful spring day - enjoy it cause in two weeks or so we should go straight into summer! LOL!
I'm glad you're writing him too. The more mail, the more they DO PAY ATTENTION especially when they aren't form letters, ya know?! And the fight isn't over yet; heard that Obama is meeting with Collins today - I suspect that she and Snowe (who, iirc is up for re-election before long) are starting to feel the heat.
If this bill passes, I would hope that it does so with minimal Republican support. And I would hope it would limit itself to what is "needed" NOW to get the economy going - and I don't see how $15 BILLION increase in Pell Grants (as one example) is gonna do that. Nor giving the City of Milwaukee more money for school buildings when the City is already closing 15 schools due to declining attendance.
Stuff that doesn't help the economy NOW ought to be stricken from this bill and if there is any real value to those items, they should be taken up in seperate bills.
The Palestine money for "refugees" is true, but before we get our panties in a wad Bush signed a similar order to.Sorry I can't remember exactly where I read it.
Senator Ensign just said, "it is the housing crisis that is dragging the economy down. That is why the bill should target housing"
Makes sense. Bawney is now in some slurping rant blaming Bush for the mess.
Congressman Pence is now blaming Congress for the mess. Fwank looks as uncomfotable as a hooker in Church.
Balaming Bush again? Sorry Mr. Fwanks but..."That Dog don't hunt"
Mornin' all. Just told the asshat from citicard to get off my ass cause I'm late with a payment. Said "what'd you do with that 40 billion bucks of my tax money you already got?". The dude just spluttered and hung up.
Apart from all the other probable screw ups the re-do of the NSC will entail, this part...
"The national security process, he said, will also be "transparent to its clients" inside the administration, with meeting agendas and outcomes made available to "the whole community" in real time. Each department will appoint someone to monitor the NSC process, enabling senior officials across the government to be ready to jump into issues without steep learning curves."
... pretty much guarantees that the NSC will leak like a sieve.
Good morning everyone! Still kinda waking up after the fantastic party yesterday. Hate to be like Nero playing the violin while Rome burns, but sometimes one just has to say WTF and go out and get wasted. Good to still have a choice of alcohol, before the days of rationed Victory Gin roll our way.
Senator Ensign just said, "it is the housing crisis that is dragging the economy down. That is why the bill should target housing"
Makes sense. Bawney is now in some slurping rant blaming Bush for the mess.
Congressman Pence is now blaming Congress for the mess. Fwank looks as uncomfotable as a hooker in Church.
Good morning everyone! Still kinda waking up after the fantastic party yesterday. Hate to be like Nero playing the violin while Rome burns, but sometimes one just has to say WTF and go out and get wasted. Good to still have a choice of alcohol, before the days of rationed Victory Gin roll our way.
If you can possibly find some extra time while addressing the many, many problems enveloping our little earth, could you please find another gazillion or so teachers like goddess?
Balaming Bush again? Sorry Mr. Fwanks but..."That Dog don't hunt"
IT'S THE "ONES" WATCH!
Fwanks is a man without shame. He just slurped that "if they don't spend monet on the housing mess, I told ther Obama Admin. that they don't get the money."
re: #617 Lincolntf
The whole admin will be full of leaks. They are all so full of themselves, they'll have to share what they know to show how important they are.
re: #559 jwb7605
Huh, interesting - from your link
There is a huge partisan divide on the question. Sixty-nine percent (69%) of Democrats agree with the president's insistence that failure to pass a bill now means catastrophe, while 64% of Republicans do not. Among voters not affiliated with either major party, 32% say Obama's right, but 51% don't agree (see crosstabs).
A plurality of women agree with the president while a plurality of men disagree. Those who earn less than $40,000 a year lean in Obama’s direction while those who earn $60,000 to $100,000 lean the other way. By a 47% to 40% margin, investors reject the notion that inaction will lead to catastrophe.
The partisan nature of the debate has pushed Obama’s ratings down a bit in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Approval Index. But overall, Obama still gets good grades for his performance. Support for the stimulus plan itself also has decreased over the past two weeks, and 50% of the nation’s voters fear it could do more harm than good.
Claire McCasskil ,who is the proverbial individual who could not find her ass with a road map is now saying, that the danger on stimulus is doing nothing.
You know don't look at , even if it is a bad bill, DO IT!
I truly think they are in hurry up mode with this is cause they don't want enough time for most to see what is really in it. If most of it doesn't get in play for 2 years...whats the hurry? Lets get it right the first time!
Found where I saw it about the Pakistan money. It was AJ Strata. Sorry, don't know how to link, but evidently he signed this executive order on January 27. Funny how these executive orders never make the news.
(e) Consolidated Block Grants for Puerto Rico and American Samoa.
// increase by 12% until 2010, then it increases more!
p 20, line 10
(f) Treamtment of Jobless Workers
// no limits on elegibility for jobless re Food and Nutrition Act of 2008 and after 2012 the state will not keep track of how many benefits were dolled out.
p 21 Agriculture Disaster Assistance Transition
// knotted hooey on how to bail out "eligible producers", not farmers, but"eligible producers" using a snarl of legislative byzantine logic; includes up to 50 million for "Aquaculture producers" -- people who squeeze the caviar out of fish
Grants are on a pro-rata basis, first come, first serve! Hee-haw, trough it up!
Larry Summers on ABC this morning. This is one of the few actual smart guys on the Obama team, and mixed in with intelligent talk is Obamanation neo-Stalinism, scapegoating Republicans and Bush for all problems, and pretending that the government has the power to create even a *single* job, much less three million of them. The thing is, Summers must know he is mouthing lies. He KNOWS, and does it anyway. What a scumbag.
Socialist Taqqiya is just as detrimental as Islamic Taqqiya. The goal is what is important; the means are just the tool.
Bwahahaha! Watching Fox News Sunday. Talking about how "high" the ones admin set the bar for serving in the admin. Yep, just don't pay your taxes, hire illeagal nannies, etc...
The relocated Palis will force money to be spend, hence stimulus.
With logic like that that we might has well do a pre-frontal lobotomy and consider it a haircut.
My favorite is the mayor of Shreveport LA. claiming that if his Police Dept. gets the eight Harley Davidson cycles, that it might create a jog at Harley.
On the upside though, Obamas administration may finally be the catalyst that wakes America up to the dangers of socialist ultra-liberalism.
If the next four years are as FUBAR as I think they're going to be - if the fallout from this stimulus bill that they and they alone shoved down the throats of the American people is as bad as I think it's going to be - so much damage is going to be done that they're never going to be given another crack at it.
The Obama administration could well be the straw that breaks the camels' back, and the beginning of a long campaign to purge ultraliberalism from American politics.
I know it sounds like wishful thinking, and maybe it is.
But I've always felt that the best way to deal with a power hungry, ego-centric beast like ulltra-liberalism is to give it a rope, sit back and let it hang itself. Obambi has only been in office for two weeks, and the process has already begun.
Mornin' all. Just told the asshat from citicard to get off my ass cause I'm late with a payment. Said "what'd you do with that 40 billion bucks of my tax money you already got?". The dude just spluttered and hung up.
Well, I owed the IRS 80 dollars from last year taxes. I can only afford 25 dollars a month to pay off this small amount. I have already sent them my first 25 dollars in Jan. 2009.
In the past few months, the kept sending me notices, saying if I needed to make payment, than I needed to arrange that with them. Will, if I remember correctly from a number of years ago, there is a 50 or so dollar fee to set up payments.
That's why I just started to send in money and not get addition charges added on for "processing" for such a paltry amount. Their charges to "set up an account" would almost double the amount.
So, this month, I get a notice, some 60 or so still owed, and now they are suggesting if I don't pay the full amount that they will do this or that, including putting a lien on my bank account.
Of course, I know this is all triggered by computers, but still, I can see a hold on my bank account being triggered some day soon.
But, funny, they didn't return my first 25 dollar payment. And I bet they don't return the one that I put in the mail tomorrow.
I may even be able to get a cabinet appointment. If I do, Lizard party in the Lincoln bedroom.
My nephew, a Marine, is planning on becoming a history teacher once his enlistment is up. This is apparently becoming a trend in the military, at least from things he and other people I've talked to, have said. Hopefully it's not a small trend, but a huge one!
Found where I saw it about the Pakistan money. It was AJ Strata. Sorry, don't know how to link, but evidently he signed this executive order on January 27. Funny how these executive orders never make the news.
I don't know if this has been covered . Chicago Mayor, Rich Daley claims that he has lots of "Shovel Ready" projects planned for his Stimulus money.
He will not reveal what the projects are because, "the public & the media will be critical."
I don't know if this has been covered . Chicago Mayor, Rich Daley claims that he has lots of "Shovel Ready" projects planned for his Stimulus money.
He will not reveal what the projects are because, "the public & the media will be critical."
re: #609 soxfan4life
"First qualification to be in Obama's administration."
Uh, no. Actually the first qualification would appear to be to not pay your taxes. And that actually makes sense: go ahead and raise taxes all they want, cause they have no intention of paying those taxes anyway!
p35, funding for jobs to inspect "Non ambulatory disabled cattle" for use as human food, "regardless of the reaon for the nonambulatory status of the cattle or the time at which the cattle become non ambulatory."
// basically, once the patties are ready for the grill at McDonwalds, they'll pay someone a union wage to "inspect" them.
My favorite is the mayor of Shreveport LA. claiming that if his Police Dept. gets the eight Harley Davidson cycles, that it might create a jog at Harley.
I "love" the state governors clamoring for space at the federal pig trough, not realizing that any stimulus monies they get from O and Congress came from their constituents in the first place. Get taxed a dollar so we can get 30 cents back. 70 cents pissed away from the government is now supposed to be good for the economy.
But never fear, our Democratic representatives won't worry about this since paying taxes is not part of their patriotism.
I don't know if this has been covered . Chicago Mayor, Rich Daley claims that he has lots of "Shovel Ready" projects planned for his Stimulus money.
He will not reveal what the projects are because, "the public & the media will be critical."
I don't know if this has been covered . Chicago Mayor, Rich Daley claims that he has lots of "Shovel Ready" projects planned for his Stimulus money.
He will not reveal what the projects are because, "the public & the media will be critical."
agree...which is why I said "Whats the hurry?"
there's more in this bill than has been even read. What's needed could be written on a single piece of paper.
written by Milton Friedman.
(is he still alive ?Love the clip above)
BTW..Mr Beach got an MBA from the University of Chicago, and has esposed the learnings of Friedman in his management style. He thinks Friedman the smartest man on on economics ever.
re: #646 Walter L. Newton
Cool. I like how the IRS will go after us little people but Daschle, et al, get a pass on what they owe. The better half and I are looking at filing bankruptcy. I took a 40% pay cut and she has been reduced to 24 hrs a week. Just did my taxes, with 3 boys and being unemployed for 6 mos, our return is less than 500 bucks. Won't even pay the 1st half property taxes! Yep, I need a consulting job. Maybe I need to steal Dascholes rolodex!
I don't know if this has been covered . Chicago Mayor, Rich Daley claims that he has lots of "Shovel Ready" projects planned for his Stimulus money. He will not reveal what the projects are because, "the public & the media will be critical."
I've seen it here on LGF, but it never hurts to repeat, rinse, repeat, rinse...
No different that the the TARP money, and the fact that the government won't or can't tell us where the money went, even though they gave it away.
If anyone can tell me why ANY politician in Washing ISN'T a criminal, get the memo to me.
Daley has sold, the Chicago Skyway (A toll road), Midway Airport & the parking meters.
Now he wants the Summer Olymics in 2016! I know that the Olympic Committee is corrupt, but the City of Chicago power structure are true artists in corruption.
"First qualification to be in Obama's administration."
Uh, no. Actually the first qualification would appear to be to not pay your taxes. And that actually makes sense: go ahead and raise taxes all they want, cause they have no intention of paying those taxes anyway!
Which makes we wonder if we can finally question their patriotism since it was our VP who said the new patriotism was paying one's taxes.
Cool. I like how the IRS will go after us little people but Daschle, et al, get a pass on what they owe. The better half and I are looking at filing bankruptcy. I took a 40% pay cut and she has been reduced to 24 hrs a week. Just did my taxes, with 3 boys and being unemployed for 6 mos, our return is less than 500 bucks. Won't even pay the 1st half property taxes! Yep, I need a consulting job. Maybe I need to steal Dascholes rolodex!
re: #663 Walter L. Newton
I like how the congress was howling about the bank dudes going to resorts and such, and where were the donks this weekend? Some 5 star retreat blowing more bucks and the repubs were off hobnobbing somewhere else last weekend.
Cool. I like how the IRS will go after us little people but Daschle, et al, get a pass on what they owe. The better half and I are looking at filing bankruptcy. I took a 40% pay cut and she has been reduced to 24 hrs a week. Just did my taxes, with 3 boys and being unemployed for 6 mos, our return is less than 500 bucks. Won't even pay the 1st half property taxes! Yep, I need a consulting job. Maybe I need to steal Dascholes rolodex!
Most vintage Lizards know my story. Thirty year career as a programmer, laid off almost 5 years ago, 56 years old, managed to pull in 11 months of actual programming work in last 4/5 years, not working in live theatre for 1/4 of former salary, still looking for any sort of full time IT work.
I don't know if this has been covered . Chicago Mayor, Rich Daley claims that he has lots of "Shovel Ready" projects planned for his Stimulus money.
He will not reveal what the projects are because, "the public & the media will be critical."
If the media and the public weren't critical of the projects it wouldn't be the Chicago Way.
re: #613 Dustyvet
Hi ya Dusty! But the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) was passed by Dems and signed by Bill Clinton!
And if it wasn't for the CRA there would never have been "sub prime mortgages" and hence no "product" for wall streeters to peddle.
The rationale for CRA was to help poorer people with bad or no credit histories get out of the ghettos - and what's happened is that they did, but couldn't afford to carry the cost of homeownership and so are going back to the ghettos. It's the Democrats way of saying "Well, I tried to help y'all but you screwed it up."
Damned Democrats don't really give a DAMN about the poor and "downtrodden" - just pay lip service to caring, while 8 out of the 10 wealthiest Senators are Democrats (and ya gotta get to #7 before you find a republican). The Dems talk the talk, but will only walk the walk if the chauffeur and limousine is available.
But I've always felt that the best way to deal with a power hungry, ego-centric beast like ulltra-liberalism is to give it a rope, sit back and let it hang itself. Obambi has only been in office for two weeks, and the process has already begun.
I've not been around LGF for days at a time (sadly) and don't know if this has been discussed. But I don't see how giving them ANY rope can result in a good thing...for example...
What's his (O's) short-list for a SCOTUS appointment to replace Ginsberg? A SCOTUS appointment is looong term and critical if the Court ends up with a left-leaning majority.
Or maybe I heard/read it wrong. Is it Ginsburg fighting cancer? Is she planning on retiring because of it?
/and btw, as a cancer survivor, and in spite of Ginsburg's hooey ideological stands, she has my prayers for a successful recovery.
But they had the Judges and the bureacracy on their side, and still do. Any conservative legal protest would promptly find the circular file.
Not to be dismissive of your point, and it might be worth a try for some of the more egregious wastes of money,
Cool. I like how the IRS will go after us little people but Daschle, et al, get a pass on what they owe. The better half and I are looking at filing bankruptcy. I took a 40% pay cut and she has been reduced to 24 hrs a week. Just did my taxes, with 3 boys and being unemployed for 6 mos, our return is less than 500 bucks. Won't even pay the 1st half property taxes! Yep, I need a consulting job. Maybe I need to steal Dascholes rolodex!
Isn't your property tax built into your mortgage payment?
Daley has sold, the Chicago Skyway (A toll road), Midway Airport & the parking meters.
Now he wants the Summer Olymics in 2016! I know that the Olympic Committee is corrupt, but the City of Chicago power structure are true artists in corruption.
Washington State and King County governments could give 'em a run for their money.
Most vintage Lizards know my story. Thirty year career as a programmer, laid off almost 5 years ago, 56 years old, managed to pull in 11 months of actual programming work in last 4/5 years, not working in live theatre for 1/4 of former salary, still looking for any sort of full time IT work.
p36 - Ops and admin: 20 million (but just until 2010, when they'll be ba'aaack!)
p37 - 150 million for "Economic Development Assistance Programs", (Welfare-case sponge baths for all) with a minimum of 50 million for workers who have "experience suddend and severe economic dislocation and job loss due to corporate restructuring".
Those evil, evil, corporate re-structurers! (from whom their protection run out in 2010, whereby the Obama protection racket want us to pick up the tab, again).
Most vintage Lizards know my story. Thirty year career as a programmer, laid off almost 5 years ago, 56 years old, managed to pull in 11 months of actual programming work in last 4/5 years, not working in live theatre for 1/4 of former salary, still looking for any sort of full time IT work.
Good luck.
I keep seeing those silly little yahoo Top jobs to have stories listing IT as one of the bests job in terms of employment opportunities.
Certainly soulds like they need to do their research!
My nephew, a Marine, is planning on becoming a history teacher once his enlistment is up. This is apparently becoming a trend in the military, at least from things he and other people I've talked to, have said. Hopefully it's not a small trend, but a huge one!
Oh my! YES!
Especially history, so the revisionism can be stopped, right?
Thanks from the deepest and most sincerest part of my heart for your nephew's service to our country.
I don't know if this has been covered . Chicago Mayor, Rich Daley claims that he has lots of "Shovel Ready" projects planned for his Stimulus money.
He will not reveal what the projects are because, "the public & the media will be critical."
I'll just bet he does! i heard that he replied, "none of your business" we do what we want here in Chicago, when asked what it was for.
Lord help us all
I hear you. Just hit the big 50 and even though employers are supposed to not discriminate on age...they do.
You're kidding me, right? I had a recruiter tell me, after he sent me on an interview that the company said "I don't fit the corporate culture." He tells me, off record of course, that means, you're too old.
re: #679 Walter L. Newton
It was. We did a refi to pay off some bills and Wells Fargo wouldn't leave it set up that way. It could be worse, I just had to vent a little. I see all of this money being pissed away. We are saddling the next 3 generations with a debt that will be crippling.
p37, 1 Billion dollars for "Periodic Censuses and Programs", then more needed in 2010.
Hey, Obama, you want to count people accurately? Count them when they pay their taxes, if they don't pay their taxes, they don't count in the census, they don't get to inflate the number of electoral votes (deteremined by census), and they don't get to hold elected office.
I'll just bet he does! i heard that he replied, "none of your business" we do what we want here in Chicago, when asked what it was for.
Lord help us all
Most vintage Lizards know my story. Thirty year career as a programmer, laid off almost 5 years ago, 56 years old, managed to pull in 11 months of actual programming work in last 4/5 years, not working in live theatre for 1/4 of former salary, still looking for any sort of full time IT work.
Good luck.
Walter, have you tried Hospital Corportions &/or your state penal system?
These two are growth industries & recession proof.
I keep seeing those silly little yahoo Top jobs to have stories listing IT as one of the bests job in terms of employment opportunities. Certainly soulds like they need to do their research!
There is a lot of IT work available. For India and Pakistan and other off-shore, out sourced workers, and if you're under 35 in this country.
Fifty-six and 30 years, they know you are not going to work 80 hours a week and promise NOT to die in your cube.
I'll just bet he does! i heard that he replied, "none of your business" we do what we want here in Chicago, when asked what it was for.
Lord help us all
Back in the Day Rich Daley was not such a bad guy. He has morphed into a corrupt dictator.
You're kidding me, right? I had a recruiter tell me, after he sent me on an interview that the company said "I don't fit the corporate culture." He tells me, off record of course, that means, you're too old.
Well, me too, but y'know, there's something to that, when it means you wouldn't put up with the BS they pull on their twenty-ish employees.
Place I'm working now, I'm still maybe the oldest guy on the floor, but there are several others close, and the average age is probably near 40.
re: #704 Walter L. Newton
There is absolutley no reason for a person to work an 80 hr week unless you are in the military and that is just part of the deal.
Late one night, when we were all in bed,
Mrs. O'Leary lit a lantern in the shed.
Her cow kicked it over,
Then winked her eye and said,
"There'll be a hot time in the old town tonight!"
Sadly that is so very true. You become a suspect employee after the age of 40 and the older you get the worse it becomes. Over a 24 month period in the 90's I worked for 6 months, until the retraining money ran out and was laid off again. Unemployment wasn't taxed so at tax time we got hammered by the IRS. Not a whole lot of fun. I've run into retirees who are still sharp well into their 80's and who, if given a chance, would still contribute to society. Also have seen maggots in their 20's who are oxygen thieves.
p38, 7 Billion now, (more in 2010) for the "Broadband Technology Opportunities Program".
With 200 million for "sustainable adoption" of broadband services.
That's right folks, when little Johnny plays World-of-Porkcraft 140 hours/week on his 700 Watt PC over the taxpayer sponsored wifi to his home town of 7, we get the bill!
Walter, have you tried Hospital Corportions &/or your state penal system? These two are growth industries & recession proof.
No, and I will look into it, but the state is in the toilet, they are cutting back right and left and actually closed two facilities this last week (prisons). Hospital work is booming, but, a lot of people trying for those jobs.
I actually have a medical programming background, that, and small business, and programming in Oracle for the DOE.
It's really an age thing, I talk to a lot of people, it's always age, age, age... I hear it again and again.
Chris Matthews asked his "panel" this morning whether they thought Obama was going to "overexpose" himself by doing so many press conferences, including Monday's prime time address and two planned national speeches later this month.
The consensus was "no", and it was pointed out that Obama sells product, and is still on the cover of every magazine.
As an unaffiliated voter, I disagree. There's too much slick and too little substance in Obama's appearances for my taste (plus, I don't believe anything that comes out of his face).
But that's an interesting question, and I'd like to hear opinions from other lizards, including Obama supporters.
The Food and Drug Administration made history Friday as it approved the first drug made with materials from genetically engineered animals, clearing the way for a new class of medical therapies.
GTC Biotherapeutics said regulators cleared its drug ATryn, which is manufactured using milk from goats that have been scientifically altered to produce extra antithrombin, a protein that acts as a natural blood thinner.
I keep seeing those silly little yahoo Top jobs to have stories listing IT as one of the bests job in terms of employment opportunities.
Certainly soulds like they need to do their research!
What they don't mention is that the attractive age group is 30-ish for employers.
Chris Matthews asked his "panel" this morning whether they thought Obama was going to "overexpose" himself by doing so many press conferences, including Monday's prime time address and two planned national speeches later this month.
The consensus was "no", and it was pointed out that Obama sells product, and is still on the cover of every magazine.
As an unaffiliated voter, I disagree. There's too much slick and too little substance in Obama's appearances for my taste (plus, I don't believe anything that comes out of his face).
But that's an interesting question, and I'd like to hear opinions from other lizards, including Obama supporters.
Go and get some footage of the WWII dictators in action. Obama's strut reminds me of Mussolini.
There is absolutley no reason for a person to work an 80 hr week unless you are in the military and that is just part of the deal.
I was using that as an "inflated" example. But I actually talked to one manager, he tell me on the phone, that he expects his people to put in 50-55 hours a week (on salary), and he actually questioned me if I was able to do that.
They look at you and all they see is AGE. I have more energy and clear-mindedness than most of these 30 somethings.
No, and I will look into it, but the state is in the toilet, they are cutting back right and left and actually closed two facilities this last week (prisons). Hospital work is booming, but, a lot of people trying for those jobs.
I actually have a medical programming background, that, and small business, and programming in Oracle for the DOE.
It's really an age thing, I talk to a lot of people, it's always age, age, age... I hear it again and again.
I know that it's tough out there . Have you looked into doing medical billing on your PC? Hospitals like to outsource taht & it is a way to earn some cash & get you in the door.
Also physician groups outsource.
re: #714 Walter L. Newton
The thing is, there are more people over 45 than under. Most employers don't see past the age thing. Fact, older employees miss less work, are more dependable and are experienced. But the age thing they can't get past.
P39 -- 650 million for the "Digital-to-Analog Converter Box Program".
Basically, in order to force all cable subscribes to migrate from analog
to digital cable, as long as 90 million is used for "education and outreach":
"including grants to organizations for programs to educate vulnerable populations, including senior citizens, minority communities, people with disabilities, low income individuals ..."
90 MILLION JUST TO SHOW PEOPLE HOW TO HOOK UP THE TV!
What about the taxpayer, I guess they're not a "vulnerable population"...
The thing is, there are more people over 45 than under. Most employers don't see past the age thing. Fact, older employees miss less work, are more dependable and are experienced. But the age thing they can't get past.
To far too many employers older means more money for wages.
UNRWA informed the IDF on Friday it is suspending humanitarian aid deliveries to the Gaza Strip after Hamas stole supplies it had transferred to the Palestinian territory.
The seizure of 200 tons of supplies, included flour and other staples, took place on Thursday night. In response, UNRWA (UN Relief and Works Agency) officials informed the IDF's Gaza Coordination and Liaison Administration that it was suspending the deliveries until further notice.
The transfer of 40 truckloads of humanitarian supplies - some 800 tons - planned for Sunday has already been canceled.
re: #723 Walter L. Newton
I do 10 hour days and I'm servicing fire suppression systems for restraunts and that means climbing ladders, fitting into tight places etc...No problem. Try to only do 10s when necessary though because I'm on call 24/7!
re: #662 pingjockey
Hey ping! I'm awfully sorry to hear your bad news - but maybe you can re-negotiate your mortgage - and no I'm not kidding about that!
If you want to chat, my nic's in blue, you know what to do!
I know that it's tough out there . Have you looked into doing medical billing on your PC? Hospitals like to outsource taht & it is a way to earn some cash & get you in the door.
Also physician groups outsource.
I actually do have a contract project for Kaiser, which I have been doing piecemeal work on for the last 12 months. For a matter of fact, I am downloading a dataset of files right now to look over a possible problem.
And yes, it has helped, the Kaiser work at home thing.
I have no problem with my theatre career, money wise. It pays the bills. But it's a more uncertain future than even programming. It's a non-profit and if push comes to shove, you can always juggle volunteers to do the work I do.
I went from 80 thou to 18 thou now, working for the theatre, but I can live on that.
The thing is, there are more people over 45 than under. Most employers don't see past the age thing. Fact, older employees miss less work, are more dependable and are experienced. But the age thing they can't get past.
And want more money.
The fact that they are worth more money, somehow gets lost.
To far too many employers older means more money for wages.
Older employees means no kids being born, a relatively stable life style, showing up on time, doing the needed work. It also means their ability to suffer fools is near zero. They seen pretty much every failed management style in existence and can spot a poser of a manger at 50 paces.
Unfortunately, some politicians see the current crisis as an “opportunity” to push an agenda. They haven’t stopped to consider to what extent that agenda may exacerbate the very problems they are trying to solve. The WSJ captured the philosophy of the present administration in White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel’s remarks that “you never want a serious crisis to go to waste. Things that we had postponed for too long, that were long-term, are now immediate and must be dealt with. This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before.” Emmanuel subsequently proceeded to enumerate a list of social spending items some of which arguably sound like new versions of the same community housing spending which may have been one of the original “political risks” to start with. When asked whether the stimulus package had turned into a spending spree, President Obama acknowledged it with pride. “That’s the point. Seriously, that’s the point.”
But that’s not the point; not the point at all. And it’s a shame BHO doesn’t realize it and a greater shame if he does. The real question is whether current government solutions to the crisis contribute to political risk or reduce it. That means knowing what’s broke before applying the screwdriver to the screw.
Who knows what the future brings? But maybe we should look before we leap.
[John Kerry's] argument against tax cuts for Americans during these hard economic times was illuminating:
I've supported many tax cuts over the years, and there are tax cuts in this proposal. But a tax cut is non-targeted.
If you put a tax cut into the hands of a business or family, there's no guarantee that they're going to invest that or invest it in America.
They're free to go invest anywhere that they want if they choose to invest.
Indeed, people with their own hard-earned money in their own pockets are free to spend, save, invest, or not wherever they please. Kerry betrays the fear that haunts every good liberal— that the American people won't spend their money on exactly what good liberals would spend it on. Good liberals must, therefore, advocate for forcibly relieving the American people of the better part of a trillion dollars of their own money to fund things like STD education, welfare programs, and water parks.
Senators like Kerry have placed their own ideological desires over the right of the American people to a clean stimulus bill without the long-term spending even Obama himself admits is in it.
I actually do have a contract project for Kaiser, which I have been doing piecemeal work on for the last 12 months. For a matter of fact, I am downloading a dataset of files right now to look over a possible problem.
And yes, it has helped, the Kaiser work at home thing.
I have no problem with my theatre career, money wise. It pays the bills. But it's a more uncertain future than even programming. It's a non-profit and if push comes to shove, you can always juggle volunteers to do the work I do.
I went from 80 thou to 18 thou now, working for the theatre, but I can live on that.
Nothing is very secure right now.
Hnag in there & stay aggresive. Try everything. You have valueable skills & someone will see that & get your wheels back on track.
Some will just give up & as nasty as this sounds, that culls the herd & improves the odds.
I do 10 hour days and I'm servicing fire suppression systems for restraunts and that means climbing ladders, fitting into tight places etc...No problem. Try to only do 10s when necessary though because I'm on call 24/7!
And you're right. PArt of my job at the theatre is physical labor, some is technical and the rest, creative.
I've been there 14 months now, and I've not missed a single day of work, never had to turn down a project because I couldn't physically do it, and I am on call 24/7, because even when we are close, I have to go in to do this or that, depending on the week or time.
In programming I can make most 30 something look bad when it comes to attendance, loyalty, speed and accuracy of my work and my knowledge of what I am doing. That's what they don't want.
re: #734 realwest
Thanks. The mortgage isn't the problem, it was my idiot credit card usage when I was making 20 bucks an hour! So I'm taking care of my own problem and will get through it. We were doing okay until Boeing went on strike and knocked the wife back to a 24 hr work week! Her machine shop supplies a lot of parts to Boeing. So we are tightening our belts and getting through it. My grandparents got through the Great Depression and this is a damn hiccup compared to that!
I do 10 hour days and I'm servicing fire suppression systems for restraunts and that means climbing ladders, fitting into tight places etc...No problem. Try to only do 10s when necessary though because I'm on call 24/7!
...make damn sure those hood systems are free of grease pingjockey.
Older employees means no kids being born, a relatively stable life style, showing up on time, doing the needed work. It also means their ability to suffer fools is near zero. They seen pretty much every failed management style in existence and can spot a poser of a manger at 50 paces.
You aren't thinking like HR management saying that. ;)
'Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the last you are going to see of him till he emerges on the other side of his Atlantic with his verb in his mouth.'
is just so brilliantly funny, I had to LOL!
Btw, we won, we beat Scotland, away in Edinborough, 26 : 13.
Good start, brilliant first half, second half, took our foot off the gas.
Bring on England on Saturday!
I think that it's bullshit you can't take your child deduction tax credit or your student loan interest tax credit if you earn over a specific dollar amount.
The thing is, there are more people over 45 than under. Most employers don't see past the age thing. Fact, older employees miss less work, are more dependable and are experienced. But the age thing they can't get past.
I think it's because they think we're cranky.
/We are, but dammit, we get the job done!
Was hired 10 months ago into a job that a 35 year-old should have due to the energy required (I'm 63). Hanging in there, but boy oh boy, it's tough on this old body (residential property management). Also, it's a level of management where I STARTED about 20 years ago, so though I'm grateful for the job, it has been humbling to say the least.
Anyway, I listed the benefits of hiring me at my ageright on my resume. That way, if and when any employers contacted me for an interview, THAT part of it was already addressed and they called me anyway. I figured that was half the battle.
Just an idea that worked for me (or maybe I just got plain lucky!).
Older employees means no kids being born, a relatively stable life style, showing up on time, doing the needed work. It also means their ability to suffer fools is near zero. They seen pretty much every failed management style in existence and can spot a poser of a manger at 50 paces.
That is part of the problem. Nobody wants to hire someone who might see that he is full of crap. And nobody wants to hire his father.
Hell, I've been questioning their patriotism since they nominated Obama.
It's not they are not patriotic. No no, they just redifine it in a way that does not look at all like they are patriotic. They are 'Listening to thieir better angles & speaking truth to power."
Far to nuanced for me to grasp, but they call it patriotism.
Older employees means no kids being born, a relatively stable life style, showing up on time, doing the needed work. It also means their ability to suffer fools is near zero. They seen pretty much every failed management style in existence and can spot a poser of a mangler at 50 paces.
Older employees means no kids being born, a relatively stable life style, showing up on time, doing the needed work. It also means their ability to suffer fools is near zero. They seen pretty much every failed management style in existence and can spot a poser of a manger at 50 paces.
And there, you nailed it. I KNOW what it takes to get a project done. If you need the data, I know how to arrange it, get it, play with it, there is not business data processing "problem" you can throw at me that I haven't already figure out before, probably many times.
But that's a threat to managers, especially if they are younger. I don't care about "feelings" at work. I like the Scrooge method of management.
re: #746 smokefire
I am a fanatic about their vents and ducts. We have a hood cleaning service we recommend and I write the cleanliness on the service report, which the local FD and the insurance co. gets a copy of.
re: #692 FurryOldGuyJeans
Nah, Clinton put the teeth into it; made it impossible for Lenders to refuse to loan to less than credit worthy borrowers or they would face "special" FDIC audits and pay heavy (but amounts unstated) Fines for failure to comply. There were NO sub prime mortgages until Clinton "re-invented" CRA.
p42 -- 100 million in construction costs for the Department of Justice.
Well, those judge's benches aren't quite what they used to be!
Which correlates strongly with the quality of those who sit upon them,
however it is doubtful that an increase in the quality of the bench will
somehow miraculously STIMULATE the economy, let alone increase the quality
of those sitting upon such benches.
bonus:
p43 -- ADDITIONAL 300 million for "Construction" (with no explanation).
You see, you are old. That's management by objectives. Very 1960.
The yutes today, even the manglers, run by different rules, "roles not goals". Yes, I'm serious! It's more like, "You come in, I jerk you around because I'm a disorganized fool, then I pay you a little bit, and then I go home and you keep working." Getting the job *done* is contraindicated.
I love how the Democrats are making the talk shows today & saying that not everything in the package is good , but doing nothing is worse.
Say what? Then carve out the crap!
p43 -- 800 million for the "Federal Prison System Buildings and Facilities"
OK, so this one is easy to test, to see if they spend the money wisely, right?
So, if we spend 800 million to upgrade jails, or build more jails, we'd expect
that maybe, just maybe, in the not-too distant future, there will be no more
reports that prisons are over crowded, right?
Yeah right.
Well, the MSM would probably be told to report that there was no overcrowding, but in 5 years, who's to say that there will be an MSM ...
re: #765 smokefire
I had a call the other night. The kids at the local Burger King were screwing around and tripped the manual pull! So I have to go and flush the system, recharge the system(Ansul R102) and lo and behold no one knew how it tripped! After the owner gets the bill I'm sure they'll find out what, when, why, who did it!
I had a call the other night. The kids at the local Burger King were screwing around and tripped the manual pull! So I have to go and flush the system, recharge the system(Ansul R102) and lo and behold no one knew how it tripped! After the owner gets the bill I'm sure they'll find out what, when, why, who did it!
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Won't be the first time an entire shift at a fast food place has been fired, nor sadly, the last.
I love how the Democrats are making the talk shows today & saying that not everything in the package is good , but doing nothing is worse.
Say what? Then carve out the crap!
"The bill is 8% less shitty than what the House passed."
*assholes
I love how the Democrats are making the talk shows today & saying that not everything in the package is good , but doing nothing is worse.
Say what? Then carve out the crap!
This media fluffing is the reason why it passed late Friday night, so the entire weekend could be used to con the public into accepting it.
And if it had been passed when the stock markets were still open would have been very detrimental to said markets.
p43 -- 300 million for programs to "combat violence against women".
Oooh! 50 million for "victims of domestic violence, stalking or sexual assult",
The Clinton construction lobbies in Arkansas must be licking their lips ...
...Duh, dude, we don't know how this happened?
It was an accident.
I can't begin to tell you how many of those explanations we get from the residents.
Food on the stove, drying clothes in the microwave, cooking on grill inside house.
It goes on and on.
Only two words to describe this.
re: #716 jwb7605
Well you won't hear much from "Obama supporters" on this blog cause there just aren't (m)any - folks out here are too smart to support him.
But I will say that some Obama supporters I know were...discomforted...by his going to a dance show (Alvin Ailey Dance Troupe - very worthwhile and great artists) instead of sitting down with Senators from both (but mostly Republican) parties on Saturday to work out a compromise. HE CAN'T GET PAST THE FACT THAT THE CAMPAIGN IS OVER - HE WON - NOW HE HAS TO GOVERN.So yeah,I think he's getting too much negative exposure right now.
re: #773 Perplexed
Oh yeah. For me to go out after hours is a minimum of 460 bucks plus the chemical agents, fuseable links etc...The bill was 975 bucks!
...Duh, dude, we don't know how this happened?
It was an accident.
I can't begin to tell you how many of those explanations we get from the residents.
Food on the stove, drying clothes in the microwave, cooking on grill inside house.
It goes on and on.
Only two words to describe this.
This media fluffing is the reason why it passed late Friday night, so the entire weekend could be used to con the public into accepting it.
And if it had been passed when the stock markets were still open would have been very detrimental to said markets.
p43 -- ADDITIONAL 300 million for "Construction" (with no explanation).
Does that mean Tony Soprano gets more no show jobs for his crew?
This "scam" is not going to produce many new jobs. Most of the money is going to government agencies or state and local projects. Here's ho this DOESN'T work.
First off, a crap load of the money will be skimmed off for administrative purposes.
Most of the projects and future project already have vendors and contractors that work with these agencies and states. These people will be first in line for new money.
These contractors and vendors are not going to just start hiring willy-nilly. They are going to try to accomplish tasks using their available resources.
A lot of these agencies and states are going to sit on some of the money, afraid to let it go in case things continue to tank.
A lot of the "work" discussed in the bill will in no way help white-collar workers, who have seen their jobs fly out of the country, I'm talking about tech jobs, tech manufacturing etc.
If you think a lot of "illegals" are working now, they will be more. These contractors and vendors will attempt to retain as much of the money as they can, so they will be looking for workers who can accomplish the projects with the least investment in those employees.
We do have a large Asian and Jamaciain population where I work, and that leads to some fun times.
Smoking duck in the apartments, Voodoo cermonies, finding cages of fighting cocks in basements.
A couple of them escaped after we had a fire in one of the homes.
Gotta go. Doing a Sunday call. Mongolian Bar B Q with 2 systems and they're up in the ceiling! All to the good though, no hassle with trying to get done before the prep cooks come in.
A lot of the "work" discussed in the bill will in no way help white-collar workers, who have seen their jobs fly out of the country, I'm talking about tech jobs, tech manufacturing etc.
How many white collar workers have any experience in pouring yards of concrete? How many white collar workers know how to weld? How many white collar workers know how to use common construction tools without either hurting either themselves or people around them? Yep, the construction is fluff because of the time delays required and it does nothing to provide white collar workers (except in engineering firms-maybe) with jobs.
re: #795 smokefire
Holy Smoking Fowl! I think the vents and ducts in the Asian eateries are the worst due to the peanut oil and the temp the woks cook at.
p43 -- 800 million for the "Federal Prison System Buildings and Facilities"
OK, so this one is easy to test, to see if they spend the money wisely, right?
So, if we spend 800 million to upgrade jails, or build more jails, we'd expect
that maybe, just maybe, in the not-too distant future, there will be no more
reports that prisons are over crowded, right?
Yeah right.
Well, the MSM would probably be told to report that there was no overcrowding, but in 5 years, who's to say that there will be an MSM ...
Is there an MSM now? Seems like they are all taking their feed from some Govt. Agency. Rather than TAAS and PRAVDA we have ABC,CBS, and NBC.
Release from the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights - PCHR calls for an immediate and rigorous investigation into the circumstances of the death of Jameel Shafiq Shaqqura, 51, from Khan Yunis refugee camp, who was tortured by the Internal Security Services and subsequently died of his injuries. PCHR calls also for the results of the investigation to be made public, and for the perpetrators to be brought to justice according to the law.
You got that right.
Had a fire one night in a Chinese restaurant. Smoke banked down nearly to the floor, people still did not want to leave the buffet.
After we evacuated them, the manager started telling the customers to come back inside, finish their food, and pay.
re: #745 pingjockey
OK, ping, glad to hear you can make it with belt-tightening.
But just so you'll know, if you need/want any help or advice, just shoot me an e-mail. I've counseled literally hundreds of folks in financial dire straights.
And best of all, my advice is FREE!
A lot of the "work" discussed in the bill will in no way help white-collar workers, who have seen their jobs fly out of the country, I'm talking about tech jobs, tech manufacturing etc.
How many white collar workers have any experience in pouring yards of concrete? How many white collar workers know how to weld? How many white collar workers know how to use common construction tools without either hurting either themselves or people around them? Yep, the construction is fluff because of the time delays required and it does nothing to provide white collar workers (except in engineering firms-maybe) with jobs.
And I have no problem with this bill helping blue collar workers (but if you read my points, it really won't, not much), but at the same time, this doesn't help a big part of the economy.
And I some insight into the "engineering" side of these type of projects. They will try to produce the same amount of tech support in the engineering and IT side with the personal they already have.
That side of public project really try to keep their own little party going on, without letting new people into the party.
You got that right.
Had a fire one night in a Chinese restaurant. Smoke banked down nearly to the floor, people still did not want to leave the buffet.
After we evacuated them, the manager started telling the customers to come back inside, finish their food, and pay.
Was a Chinese fire drill LOL
Hmmm, buffets will be the first to go when the ONE institutes food rationing to curb childhood obesity, doing nothing about the corn syrup (sugar on steroids) found in nearly every processed food.
as Mandy so wonderfully states...Those of you that voted for him I hope your are f**king happy
Mandy, it never gets old.
It's now the perfect foil for Obamanaut associates/relatives. I plan on replying thus when ANY of them bitch to me about anything political/economic. Of which there will be plenty the next few years.
A lot of the "work" discussed in the bill will in no way help white-collar workers, who have seen their jobs fly out of the country, I'm talking about tech jobs, tech manufacturing etc.
How many white collar workers have any experience in pouring yards of concrete? How many white collar workers know how to weld? How many white collar workers know how to use common construction tools without either hurting either themselves or people around them? Yep, the construction is fluff because of the time delays required and it does nothing to provide white collar workers (except in engineering firms-maybe) with jobs.
The white collar guys do the environmental impact studies and lawsuits that prevent the work from starting for six years, and cost nearly half the budget.
Hmmm, buffets will be the first to go when the ONE institutes food rationing to curb childhood obesity, doing nothing about the corn syrup (sugar on steroids) found in nearly every processed food.
OK, I reviewed about 5% of the recent fecal matter strew about the Congress of Baboon's cage.
Now I need to get back to real work that produces real value (no just treading water to stave off the bullshit liberal non stimulative spending porkstravaganza).
I trust you'll read the rest. I have faith in you. Take 19 of you most cynical comedians and review the remaining 19/20ths.
TTFN
PS -- bonus joke for soon-to-be-screwed taxpayers!
Four watch dogs were discussing politics, one from private industry, one from Congress, one from the Main Stream Media, and one from California.
The industrial dog says, "Well, life in industry is OK, you bark long enough, and with enough conviction, your master realizes you scared away the thieves vies from his wallet, and he rewards your job well done with a nice juicy piece of meat."
Question Does anyone know where to donate to the Kentucky Ice victims?
I mean, it appears that the MSM, FEMA, and POTUS have forgotten that nearly half a state is still without power.
Oh, thats right, they did not vote for the BIG O. They are bitter white folk, clinging to their guns, and Bibles. No wonder I have not seen much about this.
Hmmm, buffets will be the first to go when the ONE institutes food rationing to curb childhood obesity, doing nothing about the corn syrup (sugar on steroids) found in nearly every processed food.
Follow the government food guidelines and you too can be both fat and miserable.
/Just because they have had their heads up their asses for 40 years is no reason to not enforce their findings.
re: #756 opnion
What distresses me the most my friend, is how much of the Public is sold on "Nanny State" ideas. How many will trade their most precious "possession" - FREEDOM - just to not have the responsibility for making their own decisions.
It's not only depressing, but it IS fear inducing - fear for the future of the Great American Experiment.
Newspapers make me laugh. My Sunday morning paper showed up at noon today. For the second time this year, the website reported "production" problems caused the delay. I'd already called the 800-number and gotten a busy signal twice, so I went and bought a paper rather than wait.
Anyway, the front of the editorial section was a huge "special report" on how Government has to bail out the newspaper industry. Might as well try to bail out the buggy-whip industry, if you ask me.
What distresses me the most my friend, is how much of the Public is sold on "Nanny State" ideas. How many will trade their most precious "possession" - FREEDOM - just to not have the responsibility for making their own decisions.
It's not only depressing, but it IS fear inducing - fear for the future of the Great American Experiment.
Bob, it's insidious. This whole POKULOUS bill is nothing more than inducements to get everyone onto some sort of welfare, and become dependent upon the Government. As you will agree, once you get on the Government Teat, you will have difficulty getting off.
Just a little upset by the lack of focus (in the financial sector parts of the stimulus) on correcting - or better yet eliminating - the abomination called the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA). The Dems (read Dodd, Frank, et. al.) pour more money into the financial sector, while demanding the failed CRA loan strategy be continued. AND, plan to purchase "toxic" assets (read "failed CRA mortgages").
And they blame the problem on Mortgage Based Securities (MBS) and Credit Default Swaps (CDS).
I'm not a financial expert, but I'm sure there are some lizards who are. Here's my problem:
Blaming MBS and CDS for the problem is like blaming the victim for the robbery. There would have been absolutely nothing wrong with either, if the underlying product - the loans - had been stable and performing.
IOW, it seems to me that trying to blame MDS and CDS for a problem that's actually been created by the underlying policy - the CRA - is dishonest.
You got that right.
Had a fire one night in a Chinese restaurant. Smoke banked down nearly to the floor, people still did not want to leave the buffet.
After we evacuated them, the manager started telling the customers to come back inside, finish their food, and pay.
Was a Chinese fire drill LOL
That reminded me of a cartoon from back during France's struggle with Algerian independence, and the terrorist attacks. A scene in a restaurant, with the manager running into the dining area shouting, "Les plastiquers! Pay your bills and run for your lives!"
I spent the first 23 years of my life around the military. After that experience I want the government to stay as far from me as possible. I want them to ignore me as much as possible and would like it if they could forget I ever existed.
But I will say that some Obama supporters I know were...discomforted...by his going to a dance show (Alvin Ailey Dance Troupe - very worthwhile and great artists) instead of sitting down with Senators from both (but mostly Republican) parties on Saturday to work out a compromise. HE CAN'T GET PAST THE FACT THAT THE CAMPAIGN IS OVER - HE WON - NOW HE HAS TO GOVERN.So yeah,I think he's getting too much negative exposure right now.
He thought all the sweat and toil of his campaign was the prelude to the slide into the white house where he buys the kids a puppy and puts his feet on the desk in the oval office. It was very telling when he listed running his campaign as evidence of his experience and readiness to be commander in chief. He is utterly overwhelmed by the job and already needs to escape to visit grammar schools and watch dance performances. He disrespects those around him by continuing to be late for everything as he did in his days as senator, not caring that with a great title comes greater responsibility. His approval rating is slipping, and will continue sliding, he's becoming grouchy, and he looks angry. He believed his own fairy tale and the reality is a bitch.
re: #817 itellu3times
"The white collar guys do the environmental impact studies and lawsuits that prevent the work from starting for six years, and cost nearly half the budget."
Man, that is the absolute truth!
Hundred updings if I could!
I do 10 hour days and I'm servicing fire suppression systems for restraunts and that means climbing ladders, fitting into tight places etc...No problem. Try to only do 10s when necessary though because I'm on call 24/7!
I just finished a building Friday and ready to hand it over on monday, I got a call Friday night that a sprinkler head let go on the second floor and flooded the building, I has not been a good weekend for me, but everything is now cleaned up and damage fixed,
It's not our government's job to combat domestic violence, it's the job of our entire society.
A big problem of Liberals and Democrats now-a-days is that they are tending towards a victim culture -- like that of certain Middle Eastern Jihadis -- and demanding that all of us pay up for their ineffective centrally planned government proscribed remedy (which is not a solution).
re: #832 silvergirl
"He is utterly overwhelmed by the job and already needs to escape to visit grammar schools and watch dance performances. He disrespects those around him by continuing to be late for everything as he did in his days as senator, not caring that with a great title comes greater responsibility."
Great observation - especially the being late part of it.
I wouldn't be surprised if, at some National Security Meeting he tried to vote "Present" cause he'll have NO CLUE as to what to say or do.
I bet that he will wish for the same approval rating Bush had when he left the White House. Suspect that the ONE's approval rating will wind up in the low single digits before this is finished.
re: #836 blackpajamas
That was a poorly thought out and written comment.
"It's not our government's job to combat domestic violence, it's the job of our entire society."
So what does a spouse do when being beaten nearly to death by the other spouse - dial "society" or 911?
That was a poorly thought out and written comment.
"It's not our government's job to combat domestic violence, it's the job of our entire society."
So what does a spouse do when being beaten nearly to death by the other spouse - dial "society" or 911?
In reality?
She dials 911, goes to her neighbor's house, the neighbor gets the gun, and takes care of business.
She does not wait until the state (911) arrives to save her.
The state (911) is not the only one with the gun. Understand?
The good people of her community defend her -- otherwise they are animals, and not a society.
How many people die waiting for 911?
Now, I'm going back to work now. If you want to bicker about this later, I'll be back online at the open thread -- but I'm not going to be nice.
The state (911) is not the only one with the gun. Understand?
The good people of her community defend her -- otherwise they are animals, and not a society.
How many people die waiting for 911?
I'm afraid that we're getting more like England, where if you dial 999, the bobbies come round after a while with a piece of chalk to draw the body outline.
It's not our government's job to combat domestic violence, it's the job of our entire society.
A big problem of Liberals and Democrats now-a-days is that they are tending towards a victim culture -- like that of certain Middle Eastern Jihadis -- and demanding that all of us pay up for their ineffective centrally planned government proscribed remedy (which is not a solution).
No..you get a fucking clue..I don't like the tone of your posts..
Black pajamas has probably never been raped. Nor has he/she been beaten almost to death by someone one thought they could love and trust.
Rape and domestic violence are severe crimes. I pay my taxes and participate in this society for protection from crimes so 911 is a definite requirement. I also continue to know that I would be able to protect/defend myself from crime if necessary and possible and fight to ensure my government doesn't take that away from me. Both protections are necessary.
re: #845 MandyManners
Careful there Mandy - he's already threatened me that he'll be back later and he "won't be nice". But, as much right as you DO have to go at this one, can I please (if I'm around then) slice and dice 'em?
Walter, I see it as posing a hypothetical that's actually happened in past. If you can get past BPJ's attitude, there is some truth in what he's saying. Society at large is part of the force that keeps evil in check, and you can't always depend on police to be there quick enough. As a crisis line volunteer in AK, I talked to a woman six months trying to get her to leave her abusive husband to a shelter. ("It's only a broken thumb this time, and he only hit the kid twice, what's it going to be next time?") She finally fled the bastard to a neighbor's house where he started trying to get in with an axe, like a scene from a Jack Nicholson movie. The neighbor shot him dead.
On the flip side of the argument, the crisis line I worked for only existed because it had a state grant.
That's right. Remember that the next time you are hungry and the fridge is empty. Just head to the litter box and feast on cat turds.
I'm pretty sure that everyone I've ever known who shared a household with both canines and felines has told me that doggies consider litterboxes to be a delicious All-U-Can-Swallow smörgåsbord.
(Of course, dogs are all insane, so I'm not saying we should use their behaviors as a life-guide or anything.)
The family was from Arkansas. The Dad (Dink) was a furniture salesman in San Bernardino, but back in the way-back-when he used to play 'bones' or 'spoons' in a minstrel show. To relive the golden days of yesteryear he would, from time to time, force his children to accompany him (Ronnie on guitar, Kenny on trombone) in a living room replay of a minstrel routine called "Lazy Bones."
The kids often found this to be an inconvenience, as they were fascinated by, and constantly perfecting new techniques for, The Manly Art Of Fart-Burning. Kenny explained to me that it was scientific - that it demonstrated (this is a real quote) "Compression, ignition, combustion and exhaust." -- Kenny & Ronnie Williams (later immortalized in "Let's Make The Water Turn Black").
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