It’s the 200th anniversary of the birth of one of the most influential scientists in history, Charles Darwin, whose theory of evolution by natural selection is still being vehemently denounced by zealots. Here’s part one of a well done show on Darwin’s breakthroughs and the effects of his work on scientific thought.
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:08:34am |
He's a credit to his species............
And his phylum for that matter.....
:)
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:09:57am |
He's going to visit one of the ID museums, so he can have a good laugh.
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:10:11am |
Is there a theory of why chocolate makes me smile?
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:10:22am |
re: #3 LGoPs
He's a credit to his species............
And his phylum for that matter.....
:)
True genus.
(yes, that's intentionally misspelled.)
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:10:45am |
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Emperor Norton Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:11:23am |
It's also the 200th anniversary of the birth of Abraham Lincoln.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:11:45am |
Is Marilyn Monroe going to dance and sing for him?
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:11:48am |
re: #15 Emperor Norton
It's also the 200th anniversary of the birth of Abraham Lincoln.
Yeah, he was pretty good, too.
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:11:55am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:12:13am |
Why do we hate Christians so much that we're celebrating Darwin's birthday? GAAH! The horror of it!
/
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Kulhwch Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:12:27am |
Happy B-day Mr. Darwin!
}:) [The ire of the luddites is a testament to you, sir.]
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:12:58am |
One of the first evolution threads on LGF.....
Becoming Human
Sat, May 5, 2001 at 12:05:31 pm PDT
here's an absolutely stunning flash site titled Becoming Human, presented by the Institute of Human Origins, a non-profit organization dedicated to the recovery and analysis of the fossil evidence for human evolution. impeccable production values and gorgeous images.
With the dial up modems from 2001 it must have taken almost an hour to load.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:13:12am |
"Why, thank you."
That was me; doing my Charles Darwin impression.
Sounds just like him.
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Cathypop Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:13:26am |
re: #9 debutaunt
Is there a theory of why chocolate makes me smile?
Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate!
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:13:33am |
re: #20 Kulhwch
Happy B-day Mr. Darwin!
}:) [The ire of the luddites is a testament to you, sir.]
Hey, I liked the show Password.
/alan ludd
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2by2 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:14:00am |
Never knew that; Lincoln and Darwin born on the same day?
Must have been something in the air that day 200 years ago!
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:14:17am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:14:21am |
I wonder if the Lincolns and the Darwins got "busy" on the same night.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:14:38am |
re: #25 buzzsawmonkey
I've noticed that there are some specimens of Java Man hanging around the local Starbuck's.
They can't be Java Man without a refill!
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:14:44am |
re: #6 Killgore Trout
Killgore, I posted a update on Sam the koala in the spinoffs under World News this AM. New photo of her and her Valentine's Day present, and a video from the wildlife center on the right-hand sidebar.
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vxbush Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:15:02am |
re: #9 debutaunt
Is there a theory of why chocolate makes me smile?
It's an endorphin enhancer. And it's just simply awesome. One of many things I have to thank the Spaniards for....
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Cathypop Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:15:12am |
re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I wonder if the Lincolns and the Darwins got "busy" on the same night.
Betcha Darwins version "busy" was alot more fun than Lincolns
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:15:18am |
re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I wonder if the Lincolns and the Darwins got "busy" on the same night.
With someone playing Barry White on the fiddle?
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:15:23am |
I will celebrate Darwin's birthday with a light snack consisting of a beagle and cream cheese...
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:15:52am |
re: #31 vxbush
It's an endorphin enhancer. And it's just simply awesome. One of many things I have to thank the Spaniards for....
...and the Belgians...
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:16:01am |
re: #35 buzzsawmonkey
It's all part of the Grande design.
You're going to make me vente from these tall order puns.
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Gella Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:17:05am |
Happy B-day Mr. Darwin, thanks for all ur work :)
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:17:21am |
re: #36 TimothyJ
Hrmm, wishing someone happy birthday is now an agenda item. Will wonders never cease.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:17:36am |
OT - these two headlines were next to each other on CNN...
Two satellites collide 500 miles up
WSAZ: Debris kills woman on way to funeral
Don't ask me, it's just the way my mind works. Ok, back to your regular scheduled thread
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Bloodnok Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:18:00am |
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jester6 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:18:07am |
Less than 4 in 10 Americans believe his theory.
[Link: www.gallup.com...]
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jaunte Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:18:10am |
re: #36 TimothyJ
OMG! Over the line! Off the list! Not to be read by TimothyJ is the unkindest Darwin's birthday present of all! Have some more cake.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:18:21am |
#36: I'll make it easy for you and block your account so you aren't tempted to return. And you don't get to post your dramatic goodbye comment.
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Racer X Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:18:43am |
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:18:56am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:19:15am |
Can I go OT early on a light-hearted thread?
Retail sales rise unexpectedly in January
Someone in the MSM screwed up big-time by reporting this.
Wouldn't it be a hoot (ur, well, kind of) to see the economy begin to rebound before The Messiah's Stimulus can have a chance to take effect?
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Sharmuta Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:19:28am |
re: #18 debutaunt
OK- a real theory? Chocolate triggers the happy place in your brain, and it's good for your heart!
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:19:42am |
re: #36 TimothyJ
Take a look at the Google main page Timmy, celebrations of Darwin and evolution is all over the place.
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SlartyBartfast Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:19:42am |
Maybe the so-called "stimulus bill" will pass today--we can call it, "On the Origin of Feces"...
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:19:43am |
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2by2 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:19:47am |
re: #36 TimothyJ
Wow, almost 3 months on LGF and already tired of "our agenda". A bit like Obama being "tired of the White House" after a week..........
/
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:19:58am |
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:20:15am |
re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Little timmy gots deleted.
With scientific precision. No cake for you Tim!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:20:32am |
Father: what is it lassie?
Dog: woof, woof, woof, bark, woof
Father: Oh, Timmy got blocked by Charles. Thanks Lassie, but you should have told me earlier, now it's too late. Poor Timmy.
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Kragar Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:20:47am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:20:49am |
Timmy!? It's Christina Ricci's birthday. We can talk about her, if you'd like.
Wait. No we can't. Awwwww.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:20:58am |
re: #36 TimothyJ
Don't let the gate hit you in the ass on your way out.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:21:08am |
Folks - please don't quote comments like that - they're going to be deleted. I've edited the quotes out, but I'm going to just delete any other comments with quotes.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:21:13am |
Wonder if the evolving door hit his ass on the way out.
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Gella Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:21:29am |
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jester6 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:21:31am |
re: #57 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Can I go OT early on a light-hearted thread?
Retail sales rise unexpectedly in January
Someone in the MSM screwed up big-time by reporting this.
Wouldn't it be a hoot (ur, well, kind of) to see the economy begin to rebound before The Messiah's Stimulus can have a chance to take effect?
Most people are not bright enough to make the connection. Remember, Henrietta and Julio are Obama's base.
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:21:36am |
re: #59 Sharmuta
OK- a real theory? Chocolate triggers the happy place in your brain, and it's good for your heart!
Bless you science theory lady!
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:21:36am |
re: #36
Door:hit as Lord:split
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2by2 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:21:56am |
re: #53 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Little timmy gots deleted.
really pathetic, being registered since Nov 2008, bye Drama Queen.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:22:07am |
re: #68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Timmy!? It's Christina Ricci's birthday. We can talk about her, if you'd like.
Wait. No we can't. Awwwww.
Wow, we can burn ourselves with lit cigarettes, so we can be just like her. Awesome!
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:22:11am |
Two meltdowns already, just for commemorating Darwin's birthday.
Speaking of zealots.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:22:18am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:22:23am |
Missed TimmyJ's whateverth'hell stupidity!
RATS!
That's what I get for posting a comment.
I should be watching, waitin for the Stick to swing.
*doffs hat to the recently departed*
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bulwrk Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:22:39am |
I love it when people always have too announce when they leave,dude I didn't even know you were here.
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fish Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:22:44am |
re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I wonder if the Lincolns and the Darwins got "busy" on the same night.
Ewww
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2by2 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:22:56am |
re: #70 Charles
Folks - please don't quote comments like that - they're going to be deleted. I've edited the quotes out, but I'm going to just delete any other comments with quotes.
Sorry, Charles
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:22:59am |
re: #74 jester6
Most people are not bright enough to make the connection. Remember, Henrietta and Julio are Obama's base.
Oh really? Not bright enough? Did you happen to look at that poll you posted, and see how much the results are dependent on education?
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:23:08am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:23:09am |
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Gella Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:23:14am |
just remember even thought Darwin theory has been proved, not everybody evolved as of now yet
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The_Vig Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:23:22am |
To celebrate Darwin's birthday, lets troll an pro creationism website. Who has a suggestion? Is HotAir still pretty anti evolution?
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:23:45am |
re: #63 2by2
Wow, almost 3 months on LGF and already tired of "our agenda". A bit like Obama being "tired of the White House" after a week..........
/
Easy register, easy ban.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:23:49am |
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Dianna Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:23:52am |
re: #80 Charles
Two meltdowns already, just for commemorating Darwin's birthday.
Speaking of zealots.
I thought tunnelrat was being sarcastic?
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Kragar Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:23:52am |
For some reason, Hudson from Aliens comes to mind:
"They're coming out of the god damn walls!"
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SlartyBartfast Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:24:10am |
Two meltdowns? I prefer to think of it as Natural Selection!
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ThinkRight Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:24:15am |
Re # 36
Yeah Charles !
What the he! is going on here
Your Blog has no right to talk about anything that Timmy does not want to talk about .!
/
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:24:16am |
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scottishbuzzsaw Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:24:39am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:24:45am |
re: #80 Charles
Two meltdowns already, just for commemorating Darwin's birthday.
Speaking of zealots.
Gee, we zealot of them this morning!
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Dianna Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:25:10am |
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:25:35am |
tunnelrat
This user is blocked.
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Karma: -297
Registered since: May 24, 2005 at 4:50 pmNo. of comments posted: 166
No. of links posted: 0
Yet another sockpuppet?
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:25:51am |
re: #83 bulwrk
I love it when people always have too announce when they leave,dude I didn't even know you were here.
Like the party is gonna just grind to a halt. OK,#36 left, lights out.
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:26:24am |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:26:27am |
re: #95 SlartyBartfast
Two meltdowns? I prefer to think of it as Natural Selection!
I prefer to think of it a lunch. Two meltdowns means roast troll appetizers for everyone!
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yma o hyd Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:26:31am |
Happy Birthday, Charles Darwin!
Lets not forget that he was, in the words of Steve Jones, the 'Father of biology as we know it' - he was an outstanding Naturalist, whose writings on other themes are still consulted.
Here's another book recommendation, ebcause while not about darwin, it exudes teh spirit of natural sciences, of enthusiasm about our world - and may, if you give it to your teenage children, even fire them up to go and do something similar:
Dry Storeroom No. 1: The Secret Life of the Natural History Museum by Richard Fortey
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:26:39am |
re: #99 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Gee, we zealot of them this morning!
Read the Spencer Facebook thread from last night. It's like there's a full moon out.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:26:39am |
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Kragar Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:26:41am |
re: #86 Charles
Oh really? Not bright enough? Did you happen to look at that poll you posted, and see how much the results are dependent on education?
Unless I missed something, Jester was talking about the economic data and not the earlier posted evolution poll.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:27:04am |
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DisturbedEma Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:27:07am |
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2by2 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:27:08am |
re: #91 Honorary Yooper
Easy register, easy ban.
would be nice if easy elected, easy impeach worked as well.......
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:27:15am |
re: #104 Dark_Falcon
I prefer to think of it a lunch. Two meltdowns means roast troll appetizers for everyone!
Well it is lunchtime in the Eastern Time Zone after all. :-)
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:27:24am |
re: #93 Dianna
I thought tunnelrat was being sarcastic?
I think his Karma indicated he didn't forget to put the sarc tag.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:27:44am |
re: #108 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Unless I missed something, Jester was talking about the economic data and not the earlier posted evolution poll.
Yeah, I didn't see anything about a poll in the article, either.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:28:19am |
re: #108 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Unless I missed something, Jester was talking about the economic data and not the earlier posted evolution poll.
See comment #50.
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DeafDog Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:28:31am |
Unfortunately, Darwin did not fare well in the Greatest scientist of all time Cage-Match Tournament:
Darwin was upset by a tenacious Pasteur. Darwin had shown both grace and athleticism in his first round victory over Ptolemy but against Pasteur he seemed disorientated and made frequent attempts to escape from the cage before ultimately falling to the Frenchman who accentuated his victory by standing over the father of evolutionary theory and exclaiming, “You’ve been Pasteurized!” Later, his coach explained that Darwin had insisted on employing a multi-generational breeding strategy whereby he and his offspring mated with the world’s toughest women. Darwin felt that this strategy, combined with a smear campaign that claimed Pasteur suffered from syphilis, was unbeatable. Unfortunately Darwin’s coach was unable to convince him of the plan’s shortcomings, most notably its overly long timescale.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:28:33am |
re: #115 Sharmuta
"stretch" is pushing -1000.
Is he still unbanned so we can make that total dive below -1000?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:28:43am |
re: #101 Honorary Yooper
Yet another sockpuppet?
Hmmm, Charles is darning socks?
/on this thread?
/just needling you
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:28:48am |
So who is going out to get the Birthday cake for Mr. Darwin or should be bake him a Birthday Tree?
Given the period of time he lived in, it amazes me that Darwin was able to come up with a his theory of evolution which has since been proven by science like genetics etc., disciplines Darwin couldn't have even imagined. Trully one of the many brilliant minds in human history.
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FrogMarch Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:29:26am |
I know I've said this before but...
Darwin is not the enemy!
Happy Birthday to someone who dared to dig.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:29:56am |
re: #113 CyanSnowHawk
I think his Karma indicated he didn't forget to put the sarc tag.
Lack of sleep.
Sorry.
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DisturbedEma Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:29:59am |
re: #118 Honorary Yooper
Is he still unbanned so we can make that total dive below -1000?
Ahhh the Dow Jones treatment. . .:)
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yma o hyd Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:30:01am |
re: #106 Honorary Yooper
Read the Spencer Facebook thread from last night. It's like there's a full moon out.
Gonna go back to that - need these 'jaw-hits-floor'-moments ...
Charles Darwin, however ... what an amazing mind!
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:30:15am |
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jwb7605 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:30:16am |
Intermittent drive by post today (fish tank leak problems), I'll be quite intermittent all day.
In general, what was tunnelrat saying?
Who was this Charles Darwin guy ... a senator, or something?
/on the last sentence, of course...
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:30:43am |
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Kragar Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:30:47am |
re: #116 Charles
See comment #50.
I saw 50, but 74 was directed in regards to 57 and the news about January retail sales. Just trying not to cross the streams.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:30:48am |
re: #106 Honorary Yooper
Read the Spencer Facebook thread from last night. It's like there's a full moon out.
I saw that on the front page when I checked in this morning.
*shiver* ... Didn't even want to go in there!
I did, however, think of tossing the Spencer book I have.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:30:52am |
re: #50 jester6
Less than 4 in 10 Americans believe his theory.
[Link: www.gallup.com...]
Then count me as one of that 40%.
"Sanity is not statistical."
George Orwell (Eric Blair), 1984
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:31:14am |
They're gonna be coming out of the woodwork today, folks. Bummer, I have to split and won't be back for a couple of days. I am gonna miss all the whack-a-troll fun.
If I were the owner of a prominent blog, I would post nothing but Darwin related threads all day, just to drive them bonkers. But I'm a meanie that way. :)
Later Lizards
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DisturbedEma Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:31:17am |
re: #128 debutaunt
Did you party last night after balancing the books?
Alas, sleep. . .I knew it well
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:31:35am |
re: #127 jwb7605
I didn't get the pleasure of reading his comment sbut judging by the fact that Charles banned him with extreme predjudice, I'm guessing he was posting the usual creationist tripe that isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
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Basho Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:31:36am |
“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.”
The Gospel of the Lord.
Praise to you Lord Charles Darwin.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:31:37am |
re: #120 Jetpilot1101
So who is going out to get the Birthday cake for Mr. Darwin or should be bake him a Birthday Tree?
Given the period of time he lived in, it amazes me that Darwin was able to come up with a his theory of evolution which has since been proven by science like genetics etc., disciplines Darwin couldn't have even imagined. Trully one of the many brilliant minds in human history.
"Evolution was dead as a subject of dinner-time conversation by 1830."
- George Bernard Shaw.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:31:58am |
re: #50 jester6
Less than 4 in 10 Americans believe his theory.
[Link: www.gallup.com...]
I'm seeing a lot of "mostly don't care", followed by a lot of "You know, this Darwin guy might be on to something".
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Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:31:59am |
re: #30 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Awesome! Thanks.
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vxbush Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:32:43am |
re: #86 Charles
Oh really? Not bright enough? Did you happen to look at that poll you posted, and see how much the results are dependent on education?
No need to. I see Obama stickers all over the cars of the local colleges I see.
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:32:50am |
re: #133 DisturbedEma
Alas, sleep. . .I knew it well
You have a balanced team of twins crying in stereo?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:32:51am |
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jester6 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:33:09am |
re: #86 Charles
Oh really? Not bright enough? Did you happen to look at that poll you posted, and see how much the results are dependent on education?
Well, I was talking about Obama's base. But the pollster seems to think religion might be more of a driver than education in this poll.
Previous Gallup research shows that the rate of church attendance is fairly constant across educational groups, suggesting that this relationship is not owing to an underlying educational difference but instead reflects a direct influence of religious beliefs on belief in evolution.
I am not sure I follow his logic on the subject. But 44% of respondents did not even know that Darwin was associated with the Theory of Evolution. If 44% of people cannot get that one write my money says more than 50% don't know enough macroeconomics to know if the stimulus fixed the economy or not.
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Kyle_st Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:33:17am |
Yes, Happy Birthday Darwin. Except, less than 4 in 10 people in the US are buying your theories. Oh well....
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Dianna Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:33:33am |
re: #128 debutaunt
Did you party last night after balancing the books?
No, I'm going through a bout of insomnia.
I'm not at work because at some point, this near-hallucinatory, febrile, sensation is going to go away, and I'm going to crash.
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Ringo the Gringo Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:33:54am |
So Darwin and Lincoln were born on the same day 200 years ago?
Interesting.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:34:03am |
re: #137 CyanSnowHawk
I'm seeing a lot of "mostly don't care", followed by a lot of "You know, this Darwin guy might be on to something".
I noticed that too. I'd like to know more about the 36% who said "no opinion either way".
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notutopia Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:34:27am |
Thank you Charles Darwin for all the knowledge you have given us: as a basis theory of evolution, that lasts and sustains the course of science history, and to all the developments and accomplishments for plant, animal and all mankind, and, as a foundation for other fields of science and research, that your initial work has affected.
My iguana and I, tip our cup of wheatgrass juice to you
on your birthday!
SALUTE!
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Kragar Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:34:51am |
re: #146 Honorary Yooper
I noticed that too. I'd like to know more about the 36% who said "no opinion either way".
Probably fall into the "I'll answer your god damn poll but not going to give it much thought" category.
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:34:59am |
re: #144 Dianna
No, I'm going through a bout of insomnia.
I'm not at work because at some point, this near-hallucinatory, febrile, sensation is going to go away, and I'm going to crash.
Have you considered MSG? It gives me the sensation you describe.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:36:00am |
re: #116 Charles
Thanks for the pointer. The headline on the article doesn't really reflect the results of that poll, does it.
No Opinion beats Don't Believe in every catagory.
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fish Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:36:34am |
re: #50 jester6
Less than 4 in 10 Americans believe his theory.
[Link: www.gallup.com...]
This points out one of the problems with both our education system and the ID/Evolution Debate as a whole.
Evolution is undeniable. It is quite evident.
However the way the debate is currently framed one is made to feel that belief in evolution is denial of any other force.
A better debate would be "Is it possible that there are other factors at work in conjunction with evolution?"
A debate like that would end most all of the controversy surrounding Darwin, would end the Us vs. Them mentality that a lot of people have and increase the number of people that accept evolution as a fact significantly.
Of Course the Young Earthers will never accept facts.
Happy Birthday Abe and Chuck.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:36:48am |
re: #143 Kyle_st
Yes, Happy Birthday Darwin. Except, less than 4 in 10 people in the US are buying your theories. Oh well....
A shit load of people believed the earth was flat. What people believe does not make fact go away, unless you intend to ban belief in evolution.
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Dianna Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:37:34am |
re: #150 debutaunt
Have you considered MSG? It gives me the sensation you describe.
MSG? The stuff that gives some folks hives?
I don't eat anything that has MSG in it.
This is something I've always had trouble with, and it passes. I go through a few weeks in which I can't seem to sleep well, and a few nights where I barely sleep at all, and eventually it passes.
I really hate it, though.
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lurking faith Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:37:45am |
Lincoln's birthday.
Darwin's birthday.
Is anyone surprised which of these google chose to commemorate?
(Not that I have anything against Mr. Darwin, you understand.)
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2by2 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:37:46am |
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:38:46am |
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Basho Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:39:14am |
re: #158 lurking faith
Is anyone surprised which of these google chose to commemorate?
President's Day?
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Sharmuta Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:39:23am |
re: #148 darcy
What blogs? The one's advocating fascist solutions or the ones advocating the undermining of the Constitution?
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2by2 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:39:59am |
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redc1c4 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:40:04am |
re: #50 jester6
Less than 4 in 10 Americans believe his theory.
[Link: www.gallup.com...]
i was taking a classroom anthropology class recently, which i was lucky enough to get switched to on line, but the first day the prof asked who supported evolution, and only 7 of us raised our hands.
the rest of the class either had doubts or flat out hated it. even the prof said she had problems with it, but since she was a moonbat who stated that "the rich are funding NASA's mission to Mars, so they can colonize it, because they've destroyed Earth..." i'd take her opinions with a truck full of salt.
/one of the reasons i transfered
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Rednek Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:40:15am |
Happy Birthday!
Given all the miracles that have sprung from Darwin's work, he should be made a Saint.
Saint Darwin...patron saint of rational scientists.
I like it
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:40:39am |
Ya know, I could see a rewrite to the Elton John song "Candle in the Wind" for the trolls being stickwhacked... starting something like this...
Goodbye LGF...
Though I barely posted at all.
I had a negative karma,
And I was a troll that crawled...
That's as about as creative as I can get at the moment. I leave it to the resident experts to polish it.
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jcbunga Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:40:51am |
There is plenty of evidence to support natural selection and such.
My own personal study has been a lifelong observation of the bombing accuracy of sea gulls.
During a mid 1960's trip to the coast my Dad had several close calls. During my recent return trip, however, they've scored two direct hits on me.
They've mastered it in less than 40 years./
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:40:52am |
re: #157 Dianna
MSG and ephedrine affect me like I imagine speed-type drugs would. Also, any meds? Sinus spray keeps me awake too.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:41:16am |
re: #143 Kyle_st
Yes, Happy Birthday Darwin. Except, less than 4 in 10 people in the US are buying your theories. Oh well....
Only 25% don't believe, and 36% just don't care.
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Kragar Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:41:40am |
less than 4 in 10 believe in evolution is supposed to be proof that evolution is flawed?
This is from the same pool of people out of which 52% said Barry Obama should be President of the United States.
Excuse me if I dont exactly hold their deductive skills in the highest regard
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2by2 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:41:55am |
re: #148 darcy
.........still waiting for the list of the "SO MANY"
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Dianna Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:42:49am |
re: #171 debutaunt
MSG and ephedrine affect me like I imagine speed-type drugs would. Also, any meds? Sinus spray keeps me awake too.
Abuterol, but not very often.
I even cut off the coffee, and never mind the caffeine deprivation headache.
This, as I said, is a chronic problem for me. I've been insomniac since I was a baby - it drove my mom nuts.
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Kragar Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:43:04am |
re: #175 albusteve
I want an agenda for my birthday....
I got a sweater.
I was hoping for a screamer.
/rimshot
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:43:05am |
re: #175 albusteve
I want an agenda for my birthday....
I had an agenda last night *burp*.
/No, seriously, an HOA agenda.
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Rexatosis Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:43:17am |
While celebrating Charles Darwin's birthday is cool, Honest Abe seems to be getting the short end of the stick, all he got was a log cabin on the back of his penny. Happy 200th to the Great Emancipator and Savior of the Union (and creator of the land-grant universities that dot the good old USA and teach evolutionary theory.)
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lurking faith Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:43:25am |
re: #111 2by2
would be nice if easy elected, easy impeach worked as well.......
Nah - Then we'd just be stuck with Joe Biden.
So THAT's why he was chosen as running mate?
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:44:38am |
re: #176 berserker lurker
Hey, dumbass, the evolution posts are maybe 5% of the total, and Islam is still well in excess of 50%. Obviously you YEC types like to bitch, whine, moan, and complain while playing the victim. You guys can't do basic math either.
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Rednek Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:45:36am |
re: #180 Rexatosis
While celebrating Charles Darwin's birthday is cool, Honest Abe seems to be getting the short end of the stick, all he got was a log cabin on the back of his penny. Happy 200th to the Great Emancipator and Savior of the Union (and creator of the land-grant universities that dot the good old USA and teach evolutionary theory.)
Lincoln was ok but he was no Obama.
/yes, it is sarc
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:45:52am |
re: #174 2by2
.........still waiting for the list of the "SO MANY"
darcy can't reply....but I can confirm that the list increased by at least one..e.g., darcy - since Charles attended to him/her.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:46:05am |
And they're really not going to like the other posts I've planned for today, either.
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nevergiveup Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:46:20am |
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Basho Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:46:33am |
re: #189 Charles
And they're really not going to like the other posts I've planned for today, either.
WOOHOO! =) Can't wait for them.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:46:37am |
Charles, what are you going to do when your shop is unionized and Stinky has to join?
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:46:58am |
re: #184 Charles
Given the dates of registration and the number of comments, it appears a good many of these meltdown artists are sockpuppets of some kind, IMHO.
Maybe commentors who were previously banned with a sock reserve a la "Highrise" last night?
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nevergiveup Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:47:08am |
re: #189 Charles
And they're really not going to like the other posts I've planned for today, either.
So I guess we can rule out the SI swimsuit issue?
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debutaunt Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:47:11am |
re: #177 Dianna
Abuterol, but not very often.
I even cut off the coffee, and never mind the caffeine deprivation headache.
This, as I said, is a chronic problem for me. I've been insomniac since I was a baby - it drove my mom nuts.
How miserable. Albuterol is a stimulent and I'd check the ingredients of soups for monosodium glutamate. It might add to your natural tendency. Good luck getting past this episode.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:47:23am |
re: #182 Honorary Yooper
I'm switching back and forth between here and the Spencer thread from last night. I see what you mean.
/glad I have a nearly-full bottle of Clorox in the laundry room
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Dianna Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:47:33am |
re: #189 Charles
And they're really not going to like the other posts I've planned for today, either.
Oh.
I look forward to watching this.
From a safe distance!
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jester6 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:47:44am |
re: #167 redc1c4
i was taking a classroom anthropology class recently, which i was lucky enough to get switched to on line, but the first day the prof asked who supported evolution, and only 7 of us raised our hands.
the rest of the class either had doubts or flat out hated it. even the prof said she had problems with it, but since she was a moonbat who stated that "the rich are funding NASA's mission to Mars, so they can colonize it, because they've destroyed Earth..." i'd take her opinions with a truck full of salt.
/one of the reasons i transfered
I live in a neighborhood populated with Professors from the public university at the end of the street. Over the holidays I was at a cocktail party and my wife slipped and said she had not supported Obama.
The man we were talking to playfully punched her in the arm (we were all 2 or 3 cocktails into the night's festivities) and he told us she was the first person he had met who did not support Obama. He was sincere. But I don't think he knows he lives in a bubble.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:47:52am |
re: #189 Charles
And they're really not going to like the other posts I've planned for today, either.
I am, though. Watching speeding trolls hit the wall of reality is just plain fun!
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Bloodnok Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:48:01am |
re: #189 Charles
And they're really not going to like the other posts I've planned for today, either.
This should be a blast. I call "fourteen" in the meltdown pool.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:48:05am |
re: #189 Charles
And they're really not going to like the other posts I've planned for today, either.
you dont pull threads out of a hat?...you mean this is all contrived?
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Dianna Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:48:13am |
re: #195 debutaunt
How miserable. Albuterol is a stimulent and I'd check the ingredients of soups for monosodium glutamate. It might add to your natural tendency. Good luck getting past this episode.
Thanks - I'll get there.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:48:16am |
re: #182 Honorary Yooper
Hey, dumbass, the evolution posts are maybe 5% of the total, and Islam is still well in excess of 50%. Obviously you YEC types like to bitch, whine, moan, and complain while playing the victim. You guys can't do basic math either.
Must be why they think their 25% don't believe in the Gallup Poll is better than the 74% that either believe or don't care.
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bulwrk Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:48:33am |
re: #170 jcbunga
True story,I was at Santa Anita race track one day and had a seagull score a direct hit won seven races that day and I haven't been able too get a seagull to crap on me since.
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2by2 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:48:36am |
re: #187 LGoPs
darcy can't reply....but I can confirm that the list increased by at least one..e.g., darcy - since Charles attended to him/her.
Bye darcy, you're one of SO MANY!
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nevergiveup Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:48:51am |
One of the sailors from my Reserve Center came in for some Dental Work just now. He is wearing his Seabee Outer Jacket. Technically a violation, but I'll let him slide.
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Jetpilot1101 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:48:56am |
re: #200 Bloodnok
This should be a blast. I call "fourteen" in the meltdown pool.
How many did we have a couple nights ago, like 10? Man what a great thread that was.
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albusteve Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:49:01am |
re: #199 Dark_Falcon
I am, though. Watching speeding trolls hit the wall of reality is just plain fun!
it's the pink mist....
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:49:20am |
re: #202 Dianna
Best wishes from me for a good long sound sleep!
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lurking faith Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:49:28am |
re: #146 Honorary Yooper
I noticed that too. I'd like to know more about the 36% who said "no opinion either way".
Some of them are ignorant and willing to admit it. Others have opinions that do not fall neatly into the believe/disbelieve categories as posited by the question.
I'd like to see polls always set up with options including "Don't know" and "my opinion doesn't fit these categories."
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jcbunga Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:49:37am |
...I mean those winged little bastards can hit my head from an altitude of 200 feet in a 30 mph wind while I'm in a moving car.
Precision like this was unheard of in the '60's model sea gull.
I shudder to think what upgrades are next./
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redc1c4 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:49:51am |
re: #108 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Unless I missed something, Jester was talking about the economic data and not the earlier posted evolution poll.
same impression i got:
"Someone in the MSM screwed up big-time by reporting this.
Wouldn't it be a hoot (ur, well, kind of) to see the economy begin to rebound before The Messiah's Stimulus can have a chance to take effect?
Most people are not bright enough to make the connection. Remember, Henrietta and Julio are Obama's base."
maybe it's just me, but that seems to be a discussion of the economic data, and the inability of the narod to grasp the results of the timing.....
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Bloodnok Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:49:54am |
re: #208 Jetpilot1101
How many did we have a couple nights ago, like 10? Man what a great thread that was.
You're right. I would take the "over" now that I think of it.
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guitarguy Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:50:19am |
"Can anyone explain why we still have monkeys if evolution is taking place?...Anyone?...Anyone?....Bueller?...Bueller?"
(.....heh-heh-heh....)
Happy B'day, Mr. Darwin.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:50:46am |
re: #201 albusteve
you dont pull threads out of a hat?...you mean this is all contrived?
Intelligently designed you might say.
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Don't kill me!
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:50:57am |
re: #178 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I got a sweater.
I was hoping for a screamer.
/rimshot
I've heard that one before.
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Basho Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:51:47am |
I have yet to make my pilgrimage to the Galapagos Islands. However, if I'm not mistaken, there is an exemption in my religion for those who do not have the monetary means to do so. I hope to save enough for next year.
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VegasRick Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:51:52am |
re: #189 Charles
And they're really not going to like the other posts I've planned for today, either.
Does it involve the stimulis package?
/
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albusteve Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:51:53am |
re: #211 lurking faith
Some of them are ignorant and willing to admit it. Others have opinions that do not fall neatly into the believe/disbelieve categories as posited by the question.I'd like to see polls always set up with options including "Don't know" and "my opinion doesn't fit these categories."
I have ignorant opinions....do I have a category?
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:52:27am |
re: #220 VegasRick
Does it involve the stimulis package?
/
Seems to me there's no shortage of coverage of the stimulus package...
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:53:09am |
re: #204 buzzsawmonkey
Twenty-three posts in 3 1/2 years, and a negative karma on those? I can see you have been truly active in determining the direction of discussion.
He was poised and waiting to get in his shots, to try to go out in a blaze of glory. He went out with a whimper, instead of a bang.
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VegasRick Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:53:23am |
re: #222 Charles
Seems to me there's no shortage of coverage of the stimulus package...
24/7 is enough for that turd.
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LGoPs Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:53:25am |
re: #198 jester6
I live in a neighborhood populated with Professors from the public university at the end of the street. Over the holidays I was at a cocktail party and my wife slipped and said she had not supported Obama.
The man we were talking to playfully punched her in the arm (we were all 2 or 3 cocktails into the night's festivities) and he told us she was the first person he had met who did not support Obama. He was sincere. But I don't think he knows he lives in a bubble.
I've often scratched my head over the years wondering why it is that it is so often university professors (and their students) who espouse some of the worst ideas ever foisted on mankind, i.e., communism.
You would think that by their education they would be able to see through the attendant propoganda and analyze the actual results, which consists of huge piles of bodies.
But they ignore the evidence, thus giving rise to my ever growing conviction that you can become so educated as to become stupid. I'll bet there's even a mathematical inverse relationship at work there that could predict this..........
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albusteve Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:53:47am |
re: #223 Ward Cleaver
He was poised and waiting to get in his shots, to try to go out in a blaze of glory. He went out with a whimper, instead of a bang.
a sniper
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:54:16am |
OT, but an answer to the question that I have been asking since US Airways 1549. Why isn't goose meat popular in the U.S.?
I asked the kosher butcher if he ever gets goose meat. He says it is a specialty meat, and there is only one kosher butcher in the U.S. who process goose, by special order only, and only at holiday time. He explained that geese are aggressive bastards, very difficult to slaughter efficiently, and Americans prefer turkey. I asked did he ever eat goose meat, and he said he had, and it's good, but not worth the extra trouble of processing.
BTW only the European goose is a kosher fowl.
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jester6 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:54:21am |
re: #173 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
less than 4 in 10 believe in evolution is supposed to be proof that evolution is flawed?
This is from the same pool of people out of which 52% said Barry Obama should be President of the United States.
Excuse me if I dont exactly hold their deductive skills in the highest regard
Agreed. Every time a poll upsets me I try to remember things like this:
You hear this one from politicians all the time, even John McCain, who promises straight talk, and Barack Obama, who claims that he's not a politician (by which he means that he'll tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear). But by every measure social scientists have devised, voters are spectacularly uninformed. They don't follow politics, and they don't know how their government works. According to an August 2006 Zogby poll, only two in five Americans know that we have three branches of government and can name them. A 2006 National Geographic poll showed that six in ten young people (aged 18 to 24) could not find Iraq on the map. The political scientists Michael Delli Carpini and Scott Keeter, surveying a wide variety of polls measuring knowledge of history, report that fewer than half of all Americans know who Karl Marx was or which war the Battle of Bunker Hill was fought in. Worse, they found that just 49 percent of Americans know that the only country ever to use a nuclear weapon in a war is their own.
Source: [Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
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nevergiveup Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:54:24am |
re: #225 LGoPs
Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, administrate.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:54:25am |
re: #222 Charles
Seems to me there's no shortage of coverage of the stimulus package...
And most of it complete bullshit. But the market sees right through it, evidenced by the Dow numbers.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:54:43am |
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albusteve Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:55:48am |
re: #227 Alouette
OT, but an answer to the question that I have been asking since US Airways 1549. Why isn't goose meat popular in the U.S.?
I asked the kosher butcher if he ever gets goose meat. He says it is a specialty meat, and there is only one kosher butcher in the U.S. who process goose, by special order only, and only at holiday time. He explained that geese are aggressive bastards, very difficult to slaughter efficiently, and Americans prefer turkey. I asked did he ever eat goose meat, and he said he had, and it's good, but not worth the extra trouble of processing.
BTW only the European goose is a kosher fowl.
there is no white meat on a goose...they are racist and Americans oppose them for this reason
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:55:48am |
re: #227 Alouette
OT, but an answer to the question that I have been asking since US Airways 1549. Why isn't goose meat popular in the U.S.?
I asked the kosher butcher if he ever gets goose meat. He says it is a specialty meat, and there is only one kosher butcher in the U.S. who process goose, by special order only, and only at holiday time. He explained that geese are aggressive bastards, very difficult to slaughter efficiently, and Americans prefer turkey. I asked did he ever eat goose meat, and he said he had, and it's good, but not worth the extra trouble of processing.
BTW only the European goose is a kosher fowl.
What have they got against Canadians?
/
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:57:41am |
re: #233 Ward Cleaver
What have they got against Canadians?
/
Canada geese are Zionist Honkos, hadn't you heard?
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lurking faith Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:57:57am |
re: #203 CyanSnowHawk
Must be why they think their 25% don't believe in the Gallup Poll is better than the 74% that either believe or don't care.
OK, I totally disagree with their 25%, but
to be fair, truth is not determined by majority opinion.
Rather, if we're lucky, the majority may happen to be convinced of the truth.
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redc1c4 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 9:59:09am |
re: #201 albusteve
you dont pull threads out of a hat?...you mean this is all contrived?
no: the threads are all intelligently designed.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:00:11am |
re: #227 Alouette
OT, but an answer to the question that I have been asking since US Airways 1549. Why isn't goose meat popular in the U.S.?
I asked the kosher butcher if he ever gets goose meat. He says it is a specialty meat, and there is only one kosher butcher in the U.S. who process goose, by special order only, and only at holiday time. He explained that geese are aggressive bastards, very difficult to slaughter efficiently, and Americans prefer turkey. I asked did he ever eat goose meat, and he said he had, and it's good, but not worth the extra trouble of processing.
BTW only the European goose is a kosher fowl.
Mickey Katz did a song, "The Geshray of the Vidle Kotche", or "The Cry of the Wild Goose" (parody of a song with the latter title).
In it, a goose in a butcher shop tries not to get bought and shected (kosher slaughter) for food.
At the end, on the way out, he sings
"Goodbye little chickens, don't forget to say kaddish"
(e.g. the Mourners' Kaddsh, said in memory of a loved one)
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lurking faith Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:00:22am |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:00:40am |
re: #237 Kosh's Shadow
PIMF, should be Vilde Kotchke.
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Rexatosis Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:01:08am |
Re: #167 redc1c4
Unfortunately the study of Anthropology is mainly divided amongst Physical Anthropology (very science-driven) and Cultural Anthropology (social science and too-often politically-driven, ie: leftist/socialist). I much prefer the "skull and bones" type anthropology myself.
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iLikeCandy Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:02:08am |
Only time for a drive-by (on break here) so I'll deposit my favorite exchange on the theory of evolution, by HH Munro. A conversation between "Reginald" the "the Duchess."
"Of course," she resumed combatively, "it's the prevailing fashion to believe in perpetual change and mutability, and all that sort of thing, and to say we are all merely an improved form of primeval ape--of course you subscribe to that doctrine?"
"I think it decidedly premature; in most people I know the process is far from complete."
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:02:24am |
re: #235 lurking faith
OK, I totally disagree with their 25%, but
to be fair, truth is not determined by majority opinion.Rather, if we're lucky, the majority may happen to be convinced of the truth.
Just throwing darts at their balloons.
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fish Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:02:50am |
re: #194 nevergiveup
So I guess we can rule out the SI swimsuit issue?
Why can't we have a Swimsuit Issue thread?
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iLikeCandy Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:03:04am |
Dang! Reginald AND "the Duchess." And now I'm really off.
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redc1c4 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:04:43am |
re: #240 Rexatosis
Re: #167 redc1c4
Unfortunately the study of Anthropology is mainly divided amongst Physical Anthropology (very science-driven) and Cultural Anthropology (social science and too-often politically-driven, ie: leftist/socialist). I much prefer the "skull and bones" type anthropology myself.
this was a 101 class, given in a 5 week semester, so it was mostly just a drive by......
pretty much the only thing i learned is how poorly public education is doing in Central LA at the high school level.
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redc1c4 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:05:40am |
re: #243 fish
Why can't we have a Swimsuit Issue thread?
can you imagine Stinky in a thong?
/white smoke
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jester6 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:05:59am |
re: #225 LGoPs
I've often scratched my head over the years wondering why it is that it is so often university professors (and their students) who espouse some of the worst ideas ever foisted on mankind, i.e., communism.
I often thought the same thing until I moved in here.
My neighborhood filled with diverse educated warm people. They day we moved in my wife and I were sitting on the front steps drinking a glass of wine from a couple from the the other end of the street came over with another bottle and introduced themselves. This is without a doubt the best place I have ever lived. If collectivism could work anywhere it could work with the people in my neighborhood.
I believe they think the world is populated with the type of person who lives in our neighborhood bubble. Many of them have been to the Hymilias or Amazon with a guide but never 10 miles down the road to the country western bar where they do line dancing every night. I doubt they have ever spent anytime at a truck stop or getting to know how people like Julio and Henrietta got to where they are in life.
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lurking faith Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:06:43am |
re: #242 CyanSnowHawk
Just throwing darts at their balloons.
Oh, I know. It's just that allowing it to be a question of belief rather than reason and scientific method tends to play into their hands.
Maybe I'm just taking it too seriously. :)
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fish Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:07:30am |
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jester6 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:12:47am |
re: #227 Alouette
OT, but an answer to the question that I have been asking since US Airways 1549. Why isn't goose meat popular in the U.S.?
I asked the kosher butcher if he ever gets goose meat. He says it is a specialty meat, and there is only one kosher butcher in the U.S. who process goose, by special order only, and only at holiday time. He explained that geese are aggressive bastards, very difficult to slaughter efficiently, and Americans prefer turkey. I asked did he ever eat goose meat, and he said he had, and it's good, but not worth the extra trouble of processing.
BTW only the European goose is a kosher fowl.
Canada Geese are protected by the Federal Migratory Bird Act and states have to follow the framework set by the USFWS. Even though there is massive overpopulation now hunting is limited to only a 2 or 3 months here in Ohio. With all the licenses, stamps and tags you have to purchase it is just not worth it to all but the most die hard hunters.
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Rexatosis Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:14:18am |
re: 225 LGoPs
Many of my academic colleagues have never worked in the "real world." Didn't in H.S., nor College, nor Grad School. They have lived at the trough of stipends, grants, and public monies to get where they are. They do not understand how good they have it nor do they understand how tough it is in the real world. I always chuckle inside when I here a fellow academic complain how hard they have it teaching a 3/3 and do research while remembering working a 40+ hour week behind a 400+degree grill while going to school, then grad school, and working three jobs working my way to tenure. The political class is the same, always running for office, never working the tough jobs scraping together enough $ to make a real budget work in the real world.
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Kenneth Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:15:23am |
re: #250 jester6
In Toronto, I can sometimes find goose at Chinese or German butchers.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:16:17am |
re: #250 jester6
Canada Geese are protected by the Federal Migratory Bird Act and states have to follow the framework set by the USFWS. Even though there is massive overpopulation now hunting is limited to only a 2 or 3 months here in Ohio. With all the licenses, stamps and tags you have to purchase it is just not worth it to all but the most die hard hunters.
I don't know about that last. I've known some goose hunters here in Illinois, and they aren't that hardcore. They are dedicated though, since hunting geese is quite hard, given the limits set on it.
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Summer Seale Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:16:22am |
Happy Birthday, Charles Darwin!
And Charles, you need a picture of Sam the Koala! =)
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:17:23am |
re: #252 Kenneth
In Toronto, I can sometimes find goose at Chinese or German butchers.
Goose pate' is also available in French and German food shops here in Chicagoland as well.
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Ziggy Standard Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:22:44am |
Happy Birthday Charles Darwin!
[Link: richarddawkins.net...]
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abolitionist Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:40:59am |
Darwin's stormy relationship with Capt. Fitzroy was a very fortunate one. In private, Darwin got big early doses of bitterly divisive controversies such as would follow publication of his books decades later.
It is also fortunate that these two men were genuinely friendly, and respectful of each other. Later in life, Fitzroy pioneered weather forecasting.
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Bob Z Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:43:11am |
Even Darwin had his doubts about evolution when looking at the human eye.
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Pete-billy Thu, Feb 12, 2009 10:53:10am |
wow great documentary ! Thanks to Charles Darwin we know more about us and the other animals on earth!
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Kenneth Thu, Feb 12, 2009 11:02:34am |
re: #255 Dark_Falcon
Roast whole goose is very tasty, but a lot of work on account of the large amount of fat. It's real easy to smoke out your kitchen.
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jester6 Thu, Feb 12, 2009 11:07:54am |
re: #253 Dark_Falcon
I don't know about that last. I've known some goose hunters here in Illinois, and they aren't that hardcore. They are dedicated though, since hunting geese is quite hard, given the limits set on it.
Die hard was a bad choice of words. Anyone grab a box of slugs, case of deer and head out during dear season. Goose hunting takes a lot of patience, skill and money.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 11:52:35am |
re: #258 Bob Z
Even Darwin had his doubts about evolution when looking at the human eye.
Creationist talking point 2a.
Here's the full context of what Darwin said about the human eye (constantly distorted and misrepresented by creationists):
To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certain the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case; and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, should not be considered as subversive of the theory. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself originated; but I may remark that, as some of the lowest organisms in which nerves cannot be detected, are capable of perceiving light, it does not seem impossible that certain sensitive elements in their sarcode should become aggregated and developed into nerves, endowed with this special sensibility.
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VioletTiger Thu, Feb 12, 2009 12:01:03pm |
Darwin and Abe Lincoln. Feb. 12 must be a good day to be born.
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Pete-billy Thu, Feb 12, 2009 12:10:11pm |
re: #263 VioletTiger
Darwin and Abe Lincoln. Feb. 12 must be a good day to be born.
I got a new job today ! yesss there is something special with Feb. 12 i guess !
Happy Birthday Charles Darwin and Abe Lincoln!
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Yashmak Thu, Feb 12, 2009 12:12:08pm |
re: #258 Bob Z
Even Darwin had his doubts about evolution when looking at the human eye.
As Charles pointed out in #262, that is obviously not the case. You shouldn't believe everything you read, especially if it's taken from a Discovery Institute or Intelligent Design source. Much of their material is taken out of context, or is just plain false.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 12:25:43pm |
re: #265 Yashmak
As Charles pointed out in #262, that is obviously not the case. You shouldn't believe everything you read, especially if it's taken from a Discovery Institute or Intelligent Design source. Much of their material is taken out of context, or is just plain false.
And here's a perfect example of that, at Answers in Genesis.
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Noam Chumpski Thu, Feb 12, 2009 12:27:14pm |
Darwin was clear that he believed that Blacks were only one step above Apes on the evolutionary scale.
What a really great guy. Let's celebrate his legacy.
/do I have to put a sarcasm tag?
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 12:29:53pm |
re: #267 Noam Chumpski
Darwin was clear that he believed that Blacks were only one step above Apes on the evolutionary scale.
What a really great guy. Let's celebrate his legacy.
/do I have to put a sarcasm tag?
That is complete nonsense. Why do you folks spread this garbage around?
Here's one quote from Darwin on slavery:
It is often attempted to palliate slavery by comparing the state of slaves with our poorer countrymen: if the misery of our poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin; but how this bears on slavery, I cannot see; as well might the use of the thumb-screw be defended in one land, by showing that men in another land suffered from some dreadful disease. Those who look tenderly at the slave owner, and with a cold heart at the slave, never seem to put themselves into the position of the latter; what a cheerless prospect, with not even a hope of change! picture to yourself the chance, ever hanging over you, of your wife and your little children — those objects which nature urges even the slave to call his own — being torn from you and sold like beasts to the first bidder! And these deeds are done and palliated by men, who profess to love their neighbours as themselves, who believe in God, and pray that his Will be done on earth! It makes one's blood boil, yet heart tremble, to think that we Englishmen and our American descendants, with their boastful cry of liberty, have been and are so guilty...
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 12:34:22pm |
On the other hand, here's a quote from Abraham Lincoln:
I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races. I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. ... And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
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Ziggy Standard Thu, Feb 12, 2009 12:38:13pm |
re: #266 Charles
The 'eye and Darwin' talking point is so old and easy to refute you wonder why they still use it, except to take advantage of the fact that there's a new sucker born every minute. Nice people, the creationists eh?
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Ziggy Standard Thu, Feb 12, 2009 12:43:34pm |
re: #267 Noam Chumpski
Do you ever feel angry at sources of information that just feed you easily refuted nonsense that leaves you looking like an idiot?
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Noam Chumpski Thu, Feb 12, 2009 12:52:37pm |
Darwin wasn't for slavery. Nice way to twist my point into something it was not. Straw man arguments to prove nothing. Why so touchy?
He was also reported to be a really nice guy and the father of 10 children who went on to do some good stuff; or at least the seven that survived. Had a great wife...
He isn't a messiah and his theory doesn't deserve this much adulation and slobbering, but it's funny that anytime someone says something remotely negative of the man the foaming and fermenting appears so quickly.
I never wrote anything against his theory; just a historical point on the man itself - do you know what the full title of the Origins of Species is? Guess not. Gee.
I set a simple trap to see if there is any intellectual curiosity or rational thinking and found that there isn't - just assumption and attack. Nice work.
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Noam Chumpski Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:00:20pm |
re: #269 Charles
On the other hand, here's a quote from Abraham Lincoln:
Yes, Lincoln was also a racist and didn't really care what happened to slaves, but needed something larger than himself to turn his lagging poll numbers for re-election around as well as finding deeper meaning for the astonishing number of dead soldiers that was turning away public support for the War. It worked.
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Salamantis Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:03:58pm |
re: #269 Charles
And here's a quote from the noted Christian creationist biologist Louis Agassiz, a contemporary of Darwin's, for a letter to his mother:
"All the servants at the hotel I stayed in were men of color. I scarcely dare tell you the painful impression I received, so contrary was the sentiment they inspired in me to our ideas of the fraternity of humankind and the unique origin of our species. But, trutyh before all. As much as I try to feel pity at the sight of this degraded and degenerate race, as much as their fate fills me with compassion in thinking of them as really men, it is impossible for me to repress the
feeling that they are not of the same blood as us. Seeing their black
faces with their fat lips and their grimacing teeth, the wool on their
heads, their bent knees, their elongated hands, their large curved
fingernails, and above all the livid color of their palms, I could not
turn my eyes from their face in order to tell them to keep their distance,
and when they advanced that hideous hand toward my plate
1 to serve me, I wished I could leave in order to eat a piece of bread
apart rather than dine with such service. What unhappiness for the white race to have tied its existence so closelv to that of the negroes in certain countries! God protect us from such contact!
[Link: www.asamst.ucsb.edu...]
more excerpts:
Two theories of racial difference predominated in Western science in the century before Darwin; neither was egalitarian. People who believed that all humans are descended from a common origin (a position known as monogenism) attributed racial inequalities to differing rates of degeneration. The entire species had declined since the creation, monogenists thought, but some groups, due (usually) to the effects of climate, had declined farther than others. Polygenists, on the other hand, believed that the races were created separately and that they had been endowed with different attributes and unequal aptitudes from the start.
Agassiz not only believed that every species was created separately -which was, of course, the orthodox pre-evolutionist view. He also believed that all life forms had been created in the same numbers as currently inhabit the planet, and in the same geographical locations. Nothing had changed since the creation. "Time," as he put it, "does not alter organized beings."
RTWT
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:04:29pm |
re: #272 Noam Chumpski
Darwin wasn't for slavery. Nice way to twist my point into something it was not. Straw man arguments to prove nothing. Why so touchy?
I'm not the one ranting about things I don't understand, using words like "foaming" and "fermenting" and "slobbering" and boasting about my superior intellect.
That would be you.
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Noam Chumpski Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:15:54pm |
re: #275 Charles
I'm not the one ranting about things I don't understand, using words like "foaming" and "fermenting" and "slobbering" and boasting about my superior intellect.
That would be you.
Ranting? Boasting? You've looked past my point and went straight for the ad hominem. I'm not sure what to say about that except that you're furthering the point I made. That's not hard to understand.
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Basho Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:42:48pm |
Guys... the "eye couldn't have evolved" creationist talking point is outdated and easily refuted. Didn't you get the memo? Please spam the new argument, "the appendix is not a vestigial."
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Basho Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:56:57pm |
I hate the fact that certain people have made real differences in the world and are celebrated for it, while I'm a loser whose opinion isn't worth squat. Instead of making something of my life, I will devote my time to taking down the great men and women of history by using irrelevant arguments and personal attacks.
Columbus didn't treat natives like angels!
Washington owned slaves in the 1700's!
Darwin was a racist in the 19th century!
Newton was a virgin!
Sincerely,
Every leftist and far-right moron on the planet.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 1:58:03pm |
David Klinghoffer really wants me to respond to his idiotic posts linking Darwin to Hitler at the Dishonesty Institute site. He just emailed a little while ago. Thinks I'll gain a better understanding of the evil of Darwinism if I read them.
Total visits referred by his posts: less than 100. He's trolling to build traffic.
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VioletTiger Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:04:22pm |
re: #272 Noam Chumpski
Have YOU read more than the title?
'The Origin of Species
by means of natural selection or the preservation of the struggle of favored races in the struggle for life.'
In the language of his day and the context of his book, 'race' refers to species or genera that do not interbreed and are therefore different. It has nothing to do race the way we discuss it today. You obviously know this, but are hell bent on starting an argument.
Find a couple of friends and have a beer.
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Noam Chumpski Thu, Feb 12, 2009 2:40:54pm |
All you guys got are ranting personal attacks? Is it possible to make a point on the point alone or are you so insecure that you have to get personal on someone you've never met?
Thanks for continuing to prove my point, but you can stop - point made. Darwin is flawless and to write anything contrary is heresy. Thank God I'm not a creationist; you fellas might just hunt me down... These evolution threads are worse than a Huffington post on Cheney...
I think I'll just take VioletTiger's advice and go meet up with my friends and have a beer now.... honestly, best to you all.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:06:07pm |
re: #282 Noam Chumpski
All you guys got are ranting personal attacks? Is it possible to make a point on the point alone or are you so insecure that you have to get personal on someone you've never met?
You haven't made any valid points. This is what you wrote:
Darwin was clear that he believed that Blacks were only one step above Apes on the evolutionary scale.
And that's false. You provided absolutely nothing to back it up except a bald statement. I responded by showing you that Darwin was exactly the opposite of a racist, with a quote that shows his enormous respect for black people.
You got nothing.
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Basho Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:10:42pm |
Yeah... Darwin is flawless. That's what everyone is saying...
*rolls eyes*
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Noam Chumpski Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:16:33pm |
"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaafhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his meanest allies will be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla."
The Descent of Man: And Selection in Relation to Sex
Part I, Page 156, April 1867; Anthropological Review
Author: Charles Darwin
Yes, he's very respectful in his opinion of the "negro" as it relates to baboons.
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Basho Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:21:02pm |
Trying to take down a dead man on his birthday! Nothing insecure about that!
/
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Noam Chumpski Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:25:34pm |
re: #286 Basho
Trying to take down a dead man on his birthday! Nothing insecure about that!
/
Now you're getting emotional on me...
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Basho Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:28:46pm |
re: #282 Noam Chumpski
...are you so insecure that you have to get personal on someone you've never met?
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Basho Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:32:23pm |
In all seriousness I'm in a good mood. The fact that millions are celebrating Darwin's bday, regardless or race or creed, just cheers me up. Especially in a world that seems to be going downhill on a daily basis. That fact that many crazies absolutely despise Darwin makes it all the much sweeter =)
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Charles Johnson Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:42:37pm |
re: #285 Noam Chumpski
Darwin was a product of his time, and racism was completely common in his day. The fact is that Darwin was far LESS racist than most of his contemporaries, as the quote I posted above demonstrates.
And in any case, Darwin's views are completely irrelevant to the theory of evolution.
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Yashmak Thu, Feb 12, 2009 3:57:06pm |
re: #282 Noam Chumpski
Thank God I'm not a creationist; you fellas might just hunt me down...
I never cease to be amazed that, judging from these comment threads, everyone who attacks Darwin or evolution is "not a creationist". Even the ones who spout talking points that are exact mirrors of those found on creationist or I.D. websites.
Maybe we really DON'T have anything to worry about guys, cuz apparently no one who attacks Darwin is, in fact, a creationist./sarc
I'm just curious, if one isn't a creationist, yet attacks Darwin or evolution. . .what the heck other alternative is there?
Noam Chumpski, you display a marked ignorance of the perceptions of race during the time of Darwin. The views of many far more recent revered historical icons, such as those of Winston Churchill in his book "The River War" display passages we would consider racist in this day and age. Charles is correct that it is only in the last century that mankind has really even TRIED to address the issue of racism. . .so to single out Darwin for a failing shared by the preponderance of learned men of his time is ludicrous.
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Morgoth Thu, Feb 12, 2009 4:05:31pm |
And in any case, Darwin's views are completely irrelevant to the theory of evolution.
Ssssh. Don't tell the creationists this. Apparently because Darwin once said something vaguely naughty (by today's standards) about folks with darker skin then that means his lifetime's output is suddenly rendered completely false.
Wonder if they're going to apply the same standards to every single one of their prophets and messiahs and preachers?
Oh wait, they won't. One rule for the creationists and one rule for everyone else, it seems.
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average_guy Thu, Feb 12, 2009 8:58:48pm |
"On The Origin Of Species By Means Of Natural Selection Or The Preservation Of Favoured Races In The Struggle For Life" by Charles Darwin, M.A.
Long title....
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Noam Chumpski Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:02:25am |
re: #291 Yashmak
I'm just curious, if one isn't a creationist, yet attacks Darwin or evolution. . .what the heck other alternative is there?
The problem is that you combine any criticism of the man as a criticism of his theory. So you declare that I'm a secret creationist because I'm not so excited that out of all of the humans in the history of the world/America we somehow manage to celebrate this man in a manner that is much different from other men who actually did more for the world on a "singular" level.
Google, for instance, chose Darwin over Lincoln as their little drawing on the home page. That's probably what set me off yesterday. It bugs me; Not because of his theory, but that Lincoln was "singular" and important to the nation - as a man - where as I feel that Darwin was just one of many men (scientists) who were working on the exact same theory. He wasn't the first nor the last.
Darwin came up with some pretty good published writings on an emerging multi-nationally researched theory, but Lincoln saved the Republic! Could Google at least give that the greater nod to Lincoln on the man's birthday?
Yep, maybe I've found what's really chaffing me here...
But it's really weird how some of you react and assume with so much energy and reckless abandon on this one topic when I would say overall that this site is the most reasonable and respectful of all of the blog sites. If you looked back on my posts in the past (on other threads) you'd probably find that you and I agree on most everything (even on evolution) and yet here we are - I'm a liar, and an idiot.
It's the combative, dismissive nature of these evolution posts that bugs me and I guess after being a bit tweaked on the Google/Lincoln thing I put a little honey on my head and sat on this ant hill - I got myself into this trouble - but man... and yeah - I think Lincoln was a racist, too. Funny how that works.
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Ziggy Standard Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:21:52am |
re: #295 Noam Chumpski
Absolutely pathetic.
So this is all because you prefer Lincoln to Darwin? So why the fuck aren't you posting on the Lincoln Birthday thread instead of trying to piss on this one?
I note you havent made a single post on the Lincoln Birthday thread btw. It really isn't hard to see how full of shit you are.
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Noam Chumpski Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:29:19am |
re: #296 Jimmah
Absolutely pathetic.
So this is all because you prefer Lincoln to Darwin? So why the fuck aren't you posting on the Lincoln Birthday thread instead of trying to piss on this one?
I note you havent made a single post on the Lincoln Birthday thread btw. It really isn't hard to see how full of shit you are.
Well, thanks for making my point so much clearer. Have a good one and get some help.
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Ziggy Standard Fri, Feb 13, 2009 8:55:27am |
re: #297 Noam Chumpski
You're the one in need of help - you seem to have a clear case of DDS - Darwin Derangement Syndrome. It's obvious you're not interested in Lincoln at all - you just want to bitch about Darwin. That's why you spent all your time on the Darwin thread trotting out well used creationist chestnusts like "Darwin was a racist" , and none whatsoever on the Lincoln thread.
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Noam Chumpski Fri, Feb 13, 2009 11:05:32am |
re: #298 Jimmah
You're the one in need of help - you seem to have a clear case of DDS - Darwin Derangement Syndrome.
Using your reasoning, I couldn't call the Wright brothers tax cheats without being accused of believing that man cannot fly. You get that, right?
DDS? No, I have a 'clear case' of wondering why you can't separate the man from the theory and where your anger comes from. Did I write anything that attempts to discredit the Theory of Evolution itself? Nope. Can a racist have a good idea? Yep.
It's obvious you're still fighting some argument from a past thread and can't get over it which is why you've thrown a bunch of wild assumptions onto me and built straw man arguments to counter points I didn't make.
Try to be more confident in yourself. We believe Evolution is truth and personally insulting people won't bring them around to our view.
Now the 4 or 5 of you still bothering with this thread can get another chance to down-ding me. Bonus!
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Ziggy Standard Fri, Feb 13, 2009 1:18:09pm |
re: #299 Noam Chumpski
It's obvious you're still fighting some argument from a past thread and can't get over it which is why you've thrown a bunch of wild assumptions onto me and built straw man arguments to counter points I didn't make.
What straw men? You're talking completely out of your ass.
'Darwin was a racist' is a favourite of creationists is it not? Yes or no.
You claimed your motivation for pissing on this thread is that you prefer Lincoln to Darwin, yet look over there - a thread celebrating Lincoln's birthday! A thread that you have not made one single post on.
It's the combative, dismissive nature of these evolution posts that bugs me
It's so unfair the combative, dismissive way we treat the cdesign proponentsists that come here huh? But you're not a sympathiser. Right.
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Noam Chumpski Fri, Feb 13, 2009 3:26:45pm |
re: #300 Jimmah
It's so unfair the combative, dismissive way we treat the cdesign proponentsists that come here huh? But you're not a sympathiser. Right.
A favorite of creationists? How should I know?! (you're hilarious)
This is the first time I've gotten into one of these threads (that I can remember anyway and I've been on LGf for a while). Seriously - I'm not sure what to say to you short of showing you my "Pro-Evolution ID card" to get through to you on this one?
Then you round out your tirade with another wild claim that I wrote that I "prefer Lincoln to Darwin"? Your reading skills are worse than your comprehensive judgement. How old are you?
I wrote that it bugs me that Darwin is held up over Lincoln (like on Google) when, in my opinion, Darwin didn't do anything that dozens of other researchers/scientists weren't doing at the same time. Lincoln, as an individual, did something that positively effected our nation directly. I'm not sure how you could miss that, but there you go... it's an actual thought0 - not just some emotive outburst. I know that's difficult for you. Maybe if I threw in some curse words you'd digest it easier?
And give it up on the Lincoln non-posting thing. That's so weak it's getting sad to read over and over again. If it would calm you down I'd go over there and post something about me wanting to make love to Lincoln, but I'm now confident that you're just too angry to look for it anyway.
Maybe you missed my post on this thread where I wrote that I think that Lincoln was a racist, too? Geez, man, you're a genius.
You're a champion for the pro-Evolution movement and I can't express how glad I am to be on your side... you're changing minds left and right, I'm sure. Yes, that's sarcasm. I realize now that I have to spell everything out for you.
Feel free to down ding me again if it keeps you from beating your kids...
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Ziggy Standard Fri, Feb 13, 2009 7:50:15pm |
re: #301 Noam Chumpski
You rant about how absurdly off my comprehension is that I summed up your gripe as being that Lincoln was more worthy of celebration than Darwin, but your next paragraph of drivelling inanity just confirms that I was correct.
You spout creationist talking points while claiming to be a supporter of evolution. 'The problem is not evolution - but everyone on this blog who supports it! They are right, but they must be discredited! They have no understanding of science, and are intolerant and closed-minded fools!' We've seen this pathetic act too many times now to mistake it. And by another pure coincidence you have the same virulently snotty tone that all creationists sport as though it were the height of intellectualism.
Feel free to down ding me again if it keeps you from beating your kids...
Suggesting - on the basis of our argument here - that I would practice violence against my own children - well, you're a real shitty little piece of scum aren't you? Don't forget to whine about down dings while down dinging me on every post either, you hypocritical moron.
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Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
