The Return of the Hinchey-Thing

PoliticsFebruary 2009 • Views: 2,616

Look who’s popping up again to advocate the reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine, in order to shut down right-wing talk radio:

WASHINGTON (CNN) — More and more Democrats in Congress are calling for action that Republicans warn could muzzle right-wing talk radio.

Representative Maurice Hinchey, a Democrat from New York is the latest to say he wants to bring back the “Fairness Doctrine,” a federal regulation scrapped in 1987 that would require broadcasters to present opposing views on public issues.

“I think the Fairness Doctrine should be reinstated,” Hinchey told CNNRadio. Hinchey says he could make it part of a bill he plans to introduce later this year overhauling radio and t-v ownership laws.

This idiot was featured at LGF back in 2005, when he came out with a bizarre conspiracy theory that Karl Rove planted the fraudulent CBS memos, a delusion enthusiastically embraced by the left. Then he changed his story to say that they were planted by Jeff Gannon. Thankfully, I don’t think he ever got to the bottom of the terrible secret.

Cox and Forkum created this cartoon to immortalize the Hinchey-thing, when the troglodytes at Democratic Underground whined that Hinchey was being attacked by “flying monkeys from the dark side:”

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189 comments

pat Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:31:38am

Fantastic Post, Charles.

screaming_eagle Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:33:36am

Lock and load one 20-round mag and WATCH YOUR LANE

jcm Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:33:40am

Fairness Doctrine.
H.B.-45
H.R. -1

“Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.” — Wendell Phillips,

SlartyBartfast Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:34:40am

“Mister, we could use a team like Cox & Forkum today…”

*sigh*

jcm Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:34:48am

re: #2 screaming_eagle

Lock and load one 20-round mag and WATCH YOUR LANE

Roger!

sngnsgt Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:35:06am

Monkey see, monkey did.

Catttt Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:35:11am

Oddly enough, I’m listening to Rush on WCBM right now (the weekend lineup).

pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:35:33am

Do they want the Fairness Doctrine KOS it sounds good?

Dustyvet Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:36:03am

Article the third [Amendment I]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

nevergiveup Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:37:09am

My younger daughter goes to school in his congressional district. To close for comfort.

winston06 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:37:14am

good post! Future looks bleak

Kronocide Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:37:22am

Such a laughable euphemism. Fairness has nothing to do with it. It’s all about government control.

JammieWearingFool Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:37:28am

Hinchey is certifiable. The Democrats just can’t help but overreach, never satisfied with gaining more power and silencing opposition. There’s going to be some major blowback come November 2010.

screaming_eagle Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:37:39am

re: #9 Dustyvet

Article the third [Amendment I]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Ain’t that out of date?
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ciaospirit Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:37:40am

re: #2 screaming_eagle

Lock and load one 20-round mag and WATCH YOUR LANE

Ahhh, now wouldn’t you really rather have a rose?

Trade a gun for a rose in SC on Valentine’s Day

Hoping to get the weapons off the streets with the “Guns for Roses” program, authorities in two central South Carolina cities set up a program where anyone who turned in a gun received a free rose and a Best Buy gift card.

Guanxi88 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:37:40am

Amazing - in any properly-run country, a guy like Hinchey would be spending most of his waking hours in the day-room, in art-therapy classes.

Dustyvet Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:38:01am

Article the eleventh [Amendment IX]

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:38:37am

Would Rush have to go pirate? Would we end up like the Soviets, crouching in the woods with homemade radios, trying to catch his signal from his secret hideout or off-shore broadcasting station?

Well, probably not. Most stations would sacrifice the little guys to keep Rush, and that would be sad. There should be room for many voices to speak for the conservative side.

jcm Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:38:55am

re: #15 ciaospirit

I like this one better
Buy Diamonds, Get a Free
Gun at Eau Claire Shop

WhiteRasta Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:39:45am

How do these guys get off telling a private company that they have to present this or that point of view?

screaming_eagle Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:40:01am

re: #15 ciaospirit

LMAO

And how many guns are they collecting?

LMAO

SlartyBartfast Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:40:17am

re: #7 Catttt

Oddly enough, I’m listening to Rush on WCBM right now (the weekend lineup).

Rush played a clip yesterday featuring President Bill Clinton talking about all the money that’s “pumped into” conservative talk radio. Heh. A lot of money was pumped into Air America, but it didn’t fly ‘cause its business model didn’t work.

Conservative radio, on the other hand attracts listeners who are the rightful targets of advertisers…etc., etc.,

s.b. = master of the obvious

Catttt Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:40:20am

I didn’t know that Rush had a Saturday show, until I went to the store a while ago. I keep my radio in the truck on WCBM, and boom - there he was.

I’ve listened to WCBM since late September 2001. Two years ago, WBAL foolishly dropped Rush, and WCBM picked him up. WCBM is now ahead of mighty WBAL in the ratings. Go figure.

nevergiveup Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:40:21am

re: #18 EmmmieG

Would Rush have to go pirate? Would we end up like the Soviets, crouching in the woods with homemade radios, trying to catch his signal from his secret hideout or off-shore broadcasting station?

Well, probably not. Most stations would sacrifice the little guys to keep Rush, and that would be sad. There should be room for many voices to speak for the conservative side.

Maybe everybody would have to get satellite radio and then they wouldn’t have to declare bankruptcy?

dapperdave Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:40:31am

Demoncrates definition of fairness: We want to control you and everything that once belonged to you.

Racer X Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:40:41am

If this moron was one of my employees he would get shown the door.

Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:40:46am

Before the election, they wouldn’t dare mention the Fairness Doctrine.

/now they’re crawling over each other coming out of the woodwork to call for it

Catttt Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:41:17am

re: #19 jcm

I like this one better
Buy Diamonds, Get a Free
Gun at Eau Claire Shop

Wow. I wished I lived near there.

nevergiveup Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:41:21am

re: #27 Killian Bundy

Before the election, they wouldn’t dare mention the Fairness Doctrine.

/now they’re crawling over each other coming out of the woodwork to call for it

It’s still only a handful. At the moment.

jcm Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:41:45am

re: #23 Catttt

I didn’t know that Rush had a Saturday show, until I went to the store a while ago. I keep my radio in the truck on WCBM, and boom - there he was.

I’ve listened to WCBM since late September 2001. Two years ago, WBAL foolishly dropped Rush, and WCBM picked him up. WCBM is now ahead of mighty WBAL in the ratings. Go figure.

A lot of stations will run a weekday show again on the weekend.

Dianna Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:41:58am

re: #15 ciaospirit

That has to be a huge waste of time!

Jack Burton Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:42:11am

re: #18 EmmmieG

Would Rush have to go pirate? Would we end up like the Soviets, crouching in the woods with homemade radios, trying to catch his signal from his secret hideout or off-shore broadcasting station?

Well, probably not. Most stations would sacrifice the little guys to keep Rush, and that would be sad. There should be room for many voices to speak for the conservative side.

Satellite. I’m sure he does not want to but that is probably what Rush and others would have to do in order to keep their shows as-is. I bet that would create an even bigger flood of new subscriptions to Sirius than Howard Stern did.

Dahveed Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:42:57am

So we have a socialist in the White House. Both houses of Congress are run by two of the dumbest people the left can find. The terrorists who kill American military are given as many rights as citizens. The government just voted to steal our money. All this in spite of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity on the radio and the left is still not satisfied.

The liberals are clearly in a perpetual state of angst.

MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:43:04am

This is my biggest nightmare.

Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:44:13am

re: #29 nevergiveup

It’s still only a handful. At the moment.

Youtube Video

/a big creepy handful

rwmofo Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:44:35am

So a democrat is once again attacking the private sector - the successful private sector. I’m shocked - NOT!

itellu3times Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:44:46am

Might be in your interest, Charles. Maybe they’ll allow offsets, and one of the moonbat networks will offer you a million dollars a month for the right-wing points on LGF.

Kronocide Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:45:27am

OT: can I run something by the Lizards? I posed this in another thread.

Has anybody found it ironic that you cannot believe The Great SteamYouLose Package cannot be successful unless you believe in….. here it comes… that the money needs to trickle down through the economy to do any good?

I find it ironic that the support for StimUloss comes from people who regularly repel supply side, trickle down, and thereby call it voodoo economics to disparage it. How can you believe in one, and not the other?

I’m sure any number of talking heads must have railed about this obvious irony, no? I can’t find any dialog on it. I would think Rush would have said something like this, but it’s not been a talking point against Big Steamyness.

MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:45:33am

re: #20 WhiteRasta

How do these guys get off telling a private company that they have to present this or that point of view?

Public ownership of the air waves.

Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 395 U.S. 367 (1969).

drbob1988 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:46:17am

I believe that shutting down talk radio will start a revolution that Hinchey and the rest of “those” people think will never happen. What makes them immune from the retribution of the millions that will need to vent their frustration. I would suggest “they” think this through rather than make an emotional decision, which by the way, is the only way “they” seem to make decisions.
My head is spinning….is this the twilight zone or just a bad dream.

Guanxi88 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:46:25am

Cripes! Could you imagine the sort of dreck these guys would have put on in the interests of balance and fairness? I’m trying to imagine the screaming insanity of Air American combined with the smug self-righteousness of NPR, but the mind boggles.

Sunlight Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:46:42am

re: #24 nevergiveup

Maybe everybody would have to get satellite radio and then they wouldn’t have to declare bankruptcy?

He’s already on the internet. I listen to all kinds of streams on the internet from all over the world. Rush Limbaugh does charge for it though. But you can get it after local air time as podcasts loaded through itunes (then you can listen anytime with no ads). I live in a very blue place (with lots of corruption investigations going on, we found out after the elections) so I’ve been treating myself to his podcasts… may stop and catch as catch can on the radio like I used to at some point… but if he goes off the radio, keep the internet in mind.

Syrah Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:47:39am

The Hinchey’s of the world think that the best way to address dissenting voices is to just shut them up.

Kragar Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:47:45am

re: #12 BigPapa

Such a laughable euphemism. Fairness has nothing to do with it. It’s all about government control.

Exactly. What could be more fair than allowing everyone the freedom to espose their fews and those who make the best arguements getting the bigger audiences? That just doesn’t work if your a liberal. They want to force the other side to listen. Another thing is it drowns out other voices by implying there are only 2 sides, the 2 party sides, to an issue, which is bullshit.

rawmuse Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:48:05am

I dare conjecture that they will successfully reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, and the trend will move next to blogs, where this very blog shall eventually fall in the cross hairs.

dapperdave Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:48:06am

re: #38 BigPapa

What they’re doing is trickle down government.

itellu3times Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:48:34am

re: #42 Sunlight

but if he goes off the radio, keep the internet in mind.

But the Internet is unfair, too. For balance, you’ll have to have chunks of ice delivered by horse-cart.

Guanxi88 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:49:07am

re: #40 drbob1988

I believe that shutting down talk radio will start a revolution that Hinchey and the rest of “those” people think will never happen. What makes them immune from the retribution of the millions that will need to vent their frustration. I would suggest “they” think this through rather than make an emotional decision, which by the way, is the only way “they” seem to make decisions.
My head is spinning….is this the twilight zone or just a bad dream.

A little music, courtesy of Golden Earring:

Youtube Video

Catttt Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:49:10am

re: #30 jcm

A lot of stations will run a weekday show again on the weekend.

He has a week in review show, and as best I can tell, it’s a “best of the week” series of clips.

nevergiveup Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:49:27am

re: #45 rawmuse

I dare conjecture that they will successfully reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, and the trend will move next to blogs, where this very blog shall eventually fall in the cross hairs.

Never. And I think if they ever really did try to reinstate a form the “fairness crap” it will back fire big time.

Kronocide Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:49:44am

re: #44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Fairness = lack of competition.
Competition = unfair.

I dare you to defeat this leftist construct. I Double Red Dog dare you!

rwmofo Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:49:46am

re: #45 rawmuse

I dare conjecture that they will successfully reinstate the Fairness Doctrine, and the trend will move next to blogs, where this very blog shall eventually fall in the cross hairs.

So we’ll apply it to ABC/NBC/CNN/NY Times next? Oh wait. What was I thinking? Never mind.

Jack Burton Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:49:59am

You all know that as soon as they are done silencing dissent on radio, they are going after the Internet next, right?

Perplexed Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:50:10am

re: #20 WhiteRasta

How do these guys get off telling a private company that they have to present this or that point of view?

Public airwaves. They are own by the people.

DistantThunder Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:50:17am

The Gaul! The chutzpah! The hubris!

I don’t think little barry, Mr Only Child, Mr Beta male, has ANY idea of the backlash he is creating. In some ways this fight is good for us; we’ve taken our freedoms for granted and the left has just been crusin’ for a brusin’ on so much of this stuff.

Poltics is war by other means.

Real war.

JammieWearingFool Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:50:32am

re: #23 Catttt

I didn’t know that Rush had a Saturday show, until I went to the store a while ago. I keep my radio in the truck on WCBM, and boom - there he was.

I’ve listened to WCBM since late September 2001. Two years ago, WBAL foolishly dropped Rush, and WCBM picked him up. WCBM is now ahead of mighty WBAL in the ratings. Go figure.

mean Gene Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:50:34am

I love that Cox And Forkum cartoon.
It says so much so effectively.
NY must be a liberal’s Eden if a guy as unhinged as Hinchey still has a seat in national government.

SteveC Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:50:46am

re: #18 EmmmieG

Would Rush have to go pirate?

Rush says he’s sticking with traditional AM Radio, but something like a rigorously enforced Fairness Doctrine could push him to Satellite Radio. And Sirius just declared bankruptcy the other day…. Rush could save them just like he saved AM.

MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:50:50am

Here are some links I’ve been collecting.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com…]

[Link: www.multichannel.com…]

[Link: www.forbes.com…]

[Link: www.9news.com…]

[Link: conservativenorthwest.com…]

[Link: www.politico.com…]

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

n in wi Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:51:05am

re: #28 Catttt

Wow. I wished I lived near there.

I’m close ,about 15 miles. Let me know the caliber and carat.

Teacake! Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:51:17am

I sort of remember those days. After some show another person would have a few minutes to speak about the other view. It was so lame and contrived as I recall. Left wing radio stations back then (kpfk)were not required to give the other side any air time.

wrenchwench Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:51:19am

Republican Congressman Greg Walden, a former owner of five radio stations in Oregon including a “classic rock” station joked that the Fairness Doctrine is “the musical equivalent” of “every time we’d play a classic rock song we’d have to play a polka!”

More Mariachi!

Sharmuta Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:51:23am

re: #51 BigPapa

Fairness = lack of competition.
Competition = unfair.

I dare you to defeat this leftist construct. I Double Red Dog dare you!

Makes you wonder if the left really accepts “Darwinism” and survival of the fittest.

Kronocide Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:51:41am

re: #46 dapperdave

Zactly. It’s Supply Side Goverment! It only works if the supply comes from government, not business.

Hmm…. this sounds strangely familiar….

jemima Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:52:14am

Yeah, he’s my congress castrati. He’s a smug idiot. But then so is Chuckles Schumer. Socialists are like that, yeah, they are.

dapperdave Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:52:16am

I’d say that in one year 25% of those who voted for b.o. will be longing for the good old days of the Bush administration. IMHO

rwmofo Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:52:27am

re: #54 Perplexed

Public airwaves. They are own by the people.

? Do you want to explain this?.

Dianna Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:52:30am

re: #42 Sunlight

Give Rush $6.95/month and you don’t have to listen to ads, or be at the mercy of the radio station feed.

My computer is my friend!

Syrah Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:52:33am

re: #53 ArchangelMichael

You all know that as soon as they are done silencing dissent on radio, they are going after the Internet next, right?

And the idiots at places like KOS will cheer it on, until they realize that they will be targets too. But by then, it will be too late.

Sunlight Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:52:42am

re: #53 ArchangelMichael

You all know that as soon as they are done silencing dissent on radio, they are going after the Internet next, right?

But if you pay for content on the internet, it isn’t “public airwaves”, right? You’re talking about book burning, magazine banning, etc. It would be a different country, and I’m not thinking we would let them go so far before we throw the bums out in 2010 and 2012. But I may be blind.

nevergiveup Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:52:49am

re: #58 SteveC

Rush says he’s sticking with traditional AM Radio, but something like a rigorously enforced Fairness Doctrine could push him to Satellite Radio. And Sirius just declared bankruptcy the other day…. Rush could save them just like he saved AM.

They haven’t declared bankruptcy yet

jcm Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:52:58am

re: #63 Sharmuta

Makes you wonder if the left really accepts “Darwinism” and survival of the fittest.

Hardly, the left seeks equality of outcome.

lostlakehiker Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:53:00am

It’s nice to have raving moonbats front and center advocating the “fairness” doctrine.

Next up: fair campaign advertising. The federal government political campaign commission (PCC) would require that all campaign ads be vetted for fairness. No slandering the opposition. No saying mean things about somebody, like that he cheats on his taxes, he tried to sell senate seats, he’s got a freezer full of cash he took in bribes, he’s been caught doing cocaine, etc.

All ads would have to have a fair quota of spokesmen and spokeswomen from each community. If your ad against, oh, say, gay marriage, could not win the support of sufficient numbers of gay and lesbian transgendered differently abled activists, it could not air.

If you want to run an ad in favor of secret ballots for union elections, you must first run it past the PCC to determine whether this ad is fair to the memory of Jimmy Hoffa and Tony Boyle. If it impugns these activists of days gone by, or raises the little matter of the murder of Mr. Yablonski wikipedia article, it’s a partisan political ad and that’s not fair.

And to round out my modest fairness proposal, we could have a fairness in nomination act. No party could nominate any candidate who was deemed by the PCC to be inclined to unfairness. The president would appoint the chairman of the PCC, and he would filter out unPCC candidates and strike their names from the ballot.

wrenchwench Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:53:33am

re: #37 itellu3times

Might be in your interest, Charles. Maybe they’ll allow offsets, and one of the moonbat networks will offer you a million dollars a month for the right-wing points on LGF.

Reality offsets!

MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:53:52am

re: #67 rwmofo

? Do you want to explain this?.

Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 395 U.S. 367 (1969).

Kragar Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:54:16am

I’m waiting for them to announce mandatory viewing hours for the Dear Leader so we can learn the Government sanctioned Good-Facts instead of the pesky real facts that we here from the underground.

tradewind Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:54:17am

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

Racer X Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:54:17am

re: #63 Sharmuta

Makes you wonder if the left really accepts “Darwinism” and survival of the fittest.

Bwahahahahahaha!

Very funny.

zombie Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:55:00am

I wholly support the Fairness Doctrine.

Every time bias or partisanship appears on a media outlet, the opposing view must be presented.

Since 90% of the media is left-leaning, we’ll then get the ability to neutralize their message with a message of our own.

They get to counteract Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, and Dennis Praeger.

And so we’ll get to counteract the New York Times, PBS, NPR, ABC, CBS, NBC, Newsweek, etc. etc. etc.

Fairness!

———

Oh wait — are you saying that “fairness” only goes one way? That you get to muzzle me, but I don’t get to muzzle you?

As Orwell would say:

Some doctrines are fairer than others.

Perplexed Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:55:04am

I know of a guy who used one of the early telecom satellites to talk to a buddy in the states. He transmitted his transmission in one of the guard bands and kept the level low enough that it didn’t trigger any of the automatic alarms. Illegal as hell though and I don’t recommend it at all. FYI this took place in the 60s.

hazzyday Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:55:34am

re: #50 nevergiveup

Never. And I think if they ever really did try to reinstate a form the “fairness crap” it will back fire big time.

For Blogs: Only if you have wireless users

drbob1988 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:55:36am

re: #48 Guanxi88

Thanx, I needed that :-)

Dianna Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:55:38am

re: #66 dapperdave

I’d say that in one year 25% of those who voted for b.o. will be longing for the good old days of the Bush administration. IMHO

Heh!

Yes, back when they could blame Bush if they stubbed a toe.

Now, they have no one to blame but themselves. This will be fun.

SteveC Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:56:05am

re: #71 nevergiveup

They haven’t declared bankruptcy yet

I had heard they had. If not, my mistake!

rwmofo Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:56:08am

re: #75 MandyManners

Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 395 U.S. 367 (1969).

So is this the case/decision that was overturned by the Reagan or the FCC in the 80s?

Jack Burton Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:56:11am

re: #70 Sunlight

But if you pay for content on the internet, it isn’t “public airwaves”, right? You’re talking about book burning, magazine banning, etc. It would be a different country, and I’m not thinking we would let them go so far before we throw the bums out in 2010 and 2012. But I may be blind.

The “fairness doctrine” will only be used for over-the-air radio and TV. They will go after the Internet with a whole different set of tactics. First up on the list: TAX IT!

Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:56:17am

Democrats Consider Reviving ‘Fairness Doctrine’

Democratic lawmakers who support the doctrine say it will help increase the number of liberal shows in a landscape dominated by conservative talk radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh.

“I absolutely think it’s time to be bringing accountability to the airwaves,” Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., told liberal radio host Bill Press last week. She said she expects hearings soon on reviving the policy, which was introduced in 1949 and abolished in 1987.

Stabenow’s husband, Tom Athans, is and has been an executive at several liberal radio talk groups.

/all part of the Obama rollback agenda

Guanxi88 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:56:18am

re: #63 Sharmuta

Makes you wonder if the left really accepts “Darwinism” and survival of the fittest.

Not to go on a riff here, but the Continental Enlightenment (think French Revolution) was largely the origin of the Left throughout the West, whereas the British (and Scottish in particular) Enlightenment was responsible for the intellectual origins of the US Constitution and the American right/conservative movement in general.

One of the chief distinctions is that whereas the British thinkers understood that certain indisputable facts of nature prevented all humans enjoying perfect equality of condition or circumstance, there was no reason for positive law to present such barriers. There were natural limits, and the job of the state was not to make things worse by imposing artificial ones.

The Continental Enlightenment, by contrast, argued that the act of questioning all unexamined premises must eventually lead to questioning whether Nature itself was unjust. We find on the continent a much greater trust and hope in the eventual conquest and “correction” of Nature than we do in the British.

So, short answer - the Modern Left’s intellectual ancestry places it at war with Nature (try to get a Green to wrap his pot-fogged brain around that one), whereas the modern Right, in its origins, is more in accord with Nature.

Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:56:27am

My sister has five hyperactive boys, and a sign on her front door: “I have flying monkeys and I’m not afraid to use them.”

Looking at the cartoon above, it appears she used them.

(Just for the record, I have four flying monkeys. My mother has actually commented that sometimes she likes not having both families over at the same time, hint, hint.)

Kronocide Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:56:31am

re: #73 lostlakehiker

OK, a little too real for me, back to sarcasm…

MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:57:32am

re: #85 rwmofo

So is this the case/decision that was overturned by the Reagan or the FCC in the 80s?

Yep.

tradewind Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:58:31am

Countdown for Randi Rhodes to raise herself from some gutter and utter a hearty ‘Fairness Doctrine, Eff yeah’……..5…..4……..3……..

lurking faith Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:58:36am

re: #12 BigPapa

Such a laughable euphemism. Fairness has nothing to do with it. It’s all about government control.

And the employee Free Choice act has nothing to do with free choice, and everything to do with strong-arming workers into joining unions.

Double-plus-ungood.

IslandLibertarian Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:58:38am

The “Left Wing” is steamrolling. They’ve passed their ripoff “Stimulus” package.
Now they intend to silence their opposition under the guise of free speech.
Barack Husien Obama is heading up a socialist takeover of The United States of America. He is a LIAR! He is a socialist.
We weren’t paranoid. It is really happening. There is a formulated plan.

And I’m going to increase the size of my armory this weekend.

MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:59:34am

re: #92 tradewind

Countdown for Randi Rhodes to raise herself from some gutter and utter a hearty ‘Fairness Doctrine, Eff yeah’……..5…..4……..3……..

Give her another drink.

hazzyday Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:00:08pm

re: #65 jemima

Yeah, he’s my congress castrati. He’s a smug idiot. But then so is Chuckles Schumer. Socialists are like that, yeah, they are.

We are the “chattering class”

MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:00:37pm

re: #87 Killian Bundy

Democrats Consider Reviving ‘Fairness Doctrine’

/all part of the Obama rollback agenda

He’s executive VP at Air America.

SteveC Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:00:40pm

re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I’m waiting for them to announce mandatory viewing hours for the Dear Leader so we can learn the Government sanctioned Good-Facts instead of the pesky real facts that we here from the underground.

Obama as Big Brother and Rush as Goldstein? That’s doubleplus ungood!

Thoughtcrime!

dapperdave Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:01:03pm

re: #92 tradewind

That drunk still around? I thought she was in rehab?

Youtube Video

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doppelganglander Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:01:10pm

What I find amusing is that every time the Dems start whining about Rush, they extend the reach of his voice to millions more. They may not have listened to his show, but they know what he said because morons like Hinchey (and Pelosi, and Reid, and oh yeah, Obama) repeat what he said in order to criticize it.

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hazzyday Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:01:49pm

Trees and newspapers will be excluded. The right wing TV will be granted an analog signal.

re: #79 zombie

I wholly support the Fairness Doctrine.

Every time bias or partisanship appears on a media outlet, the opposing view must be presented.

Since 90% of the media is left-leaning, we’ll then get the ability to neutralize their message with a message of our own.

They get to counteract Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, and Dennis Praeger.

And so we’ll get to counteract the New York Times, PBS, NPR, ABC, CBS, NBC, Newsweek, etc. etc. etc.

Fairness!

———

Oh wait — are you saying that “fairness” only goes one way? That you get to muzzle me, but I don’t get to muzzle you?

As Orwell would say:

Some doctrines are fairer than others.

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Guanxi88 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:01:56pm

re: #98 SteveC

Obama as Big Brother and Rush as Goldstein? That’s doubleplus ungood!

Thoughtcrime!

But remember, Goldstein may or may not have existed. Always thought that was the genius of Orwell there - I was never sure one way or another.

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tradewind Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:02:09pm

re: #99 dapperdave

Well, I was using gutter as a euphemism…….

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Catttt Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:02:41pm

That flying monkeys from the darkside cartoon is one of my favorite C & F cartoons - along with the terrible secret cartoon. :D

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SteveC Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:02:47pm

Fairness Doctrine Panic among religious broadcasters

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:02:54pm

I hope people bookmark my No. 59.

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dapperdave Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:02:55pm

re: #103 tradewind

Of course…

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Oh no...Sand People! Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:03:03pm

re: #54 Perplexed

Public airwaves. They are own by the people.

If forgot “/” GOTO 10;

Else GOTO 1;

1. My fellow traveler. They are not owned by the people.
The person who has the funds and means available to build a radio station, get the permits and licensing, offers a product that people like and choose to listen to thereby enabling an incentive for advertisers to pay money to the radio to keep it fiscally solvent is who owns the ‘airwaves’.

10. All your base are belong to us.

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Catttt Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:03:15pm

re: #63 Sharmuta

Makes you wonder if the left really accepts “Darwinism” and survival of the fittest.

She shoots - she scores! :D

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:04:01pm

re: #105 SteveC

Fairness Doctrine Panic among religious broadcasters

Bookmarked.

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M. Bensson-Levi Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:05:03pm

re: #10 nevergiveup

My younger daughter goes to school in his congressional district. To close for comfort.

He came up to me the first time that he ran for Congress, extended his hand, and I reflexively grasped it in a handshake. A baby fresh from the womb hasn’t got a bottom as soft and tender as his hand. Water has a firmer grip. He is an indescribable, slimy, shifty lowlife. I still feel unclean because of that handshake.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:05:31pm

re: #108 Oh no…Sand People!

If forgot “/” GOTO 10;

Else GOTO 1;

1. My fellow traveler. They are not owned by the people.
The person who has the funds and means available to build a radio station, get the permits and licensing, offers a product that people like and choose to listen to thereby enabling an incentive for advertisers to pay money to the radio to keep it fiscally solvent is who owns the ‘airwaves’.

10. All your base are belong to us.

The Supreme Court has ruled otherwise.

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abolitionist Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:05:35pm

“I think the Fairness Doctrine should be reinstated,” Hinchey told CNNRadio.

A few months back, Pam Geller was advocating FD too. She argued this would help insure fairness for conservative viewpoints in the biased MSM. Don’t know if she ever backed away from that silly notion.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:06:22pm

re: #113 abolitionist

“I think the Fairness Doctrine should be reinstated,” Hinchey told CNNRadio.

A few months back, Pam Geller was advocating FD too. She argued this would help insure fairness for conservative viewpoints in the biased MSM. Don’t know if she ever backed away from that silly notion.

Fucking lunacy.

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n in wi Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:07:45pm

I wonder if any of the stimulus package could be used for bailing out financially troubled radio stations. Like what has happened to the finance and auto industries, fed. money bails them out,then they have to give up some operational control.
Oh I’m sure that if anything like that was in the stimulus package ,it would have been brought up by someone since so many people read the thing,right?

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rawmuse Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:08:34pm

re: #94 IslandLibertarian

BTW your call for lunch at Kimo’s was right on.
How does one have an armory in Hawaii? Tougher gun laws even than in Ca.

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jaunte Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:11:46pm

Here’s a real life portent:
In the mail today from the IRS, a letter.
“We Changed Your Estimated Tax Total - You Have An Amount Due”

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Opilio Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:12:26pm

Anyone remember Johnny Carson’s “Floyd R Turbo” character from his Tonight Show skits? He was a satiric example of how the “Fairness” doctine sort of worked back then. The character was an everyday Joe (or Floyd) that would get his 60 seconds on TV to respond to some previously broadcast editorial. Of course, since Carson was going for laughs, Floyd was an idiot. (Did I mention the Floyd was also portrayed as a conservative espousing conservative values?)

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dapperdave Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:12:48pm

re: #117 jaunte

Jack booted thugs!

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Penny T. Wienerdog Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:13:56pm

To paraphrase a Sunday school ditty: “…the Fairness doctrine isn’t fair, you see…”

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:16:08pm

re: #120 Penny T. Wienerdog

More fair for me and none for thee.

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:17:07pm

re: #112 MandyManners

As the airwaves are limited in scope, they are held to be commonly owned, and the government has claimed the right to license them. Stations are supposed to show that they serve the public good to be allowed to use a specific spot on the spectrum.

It isn’t very often that a station is penalized for failing to show that they meet the public need (I recall hearing about a station that was penalized for counting a soap opera with child actors on it as “children’s programming.”)

That said, this bill should go down in flames.

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Penny T. Wienerdog Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:19:32pm

“…the lefties are really sad, you see…”

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tradewind Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:19:50pm

We might as well stop calling it the Fairness Doctrine, ’ cause that one will never fly. What we’ll get is ’ localism’. You know…. local content decided by….
Heaven help you if you live in VT or OR.

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Penny T. Wienerdog Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:22:39pm

To make the Fairness Doctrine truly fair, then James Dobson should appear on Howard Stern’s show (if he were terrestrial again), feminists on the sports stations, Garrison Kellior on Radio Disney, etc.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:25:47pm

re: #122 EmmmieG

As the airwaves are limited in scope, they are held to be commonly owned, and the government has claimed the right to license them. Stations are supposed to show that they serve the public good to be allowed to use a specific spot on the spectrum.

It isn’t very often that a station is penalized for failing to show that they meet the public need (I recall hearing about a station that was penalized for counting a soap opera with child actors on it as “children’s programming.”)

That said, this bill should go down in flames.

I wonder if it will take an actual ruling by the Supreme Court to get rid of Red Lion v. FCC. Technology has out-stripped it.

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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:26:50pm

You can tell these Marxist nitwits didn’t grow up in my household…

Little KT: “That’s not faaaaiiiirrrr….”
Mom T: “Whoever told you life was fair?! Life isn’t fair, life is tough, and the sooner you get used to it, the better off you’re going to be. Now quit whining.”

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:26:56pm

re: #124 tradewind

We might as well stop calling it the Fairness Doctrine, ’ cause that one will never fly. What we’ll get is ’ localism’. You know…. local content decided by….
Heaven help you if you live in VT or OR.

One of the articles I linked in No. 59 addresses ways they’ll try to impose it. That’s one.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:28:34pm

re: #127 Killer Tomato

You can tell these Marxist nitwits didn’t grow up in my household…

Little KT: “That’s not faaaaiiiirrrr….”
Mom T: “Whoever told you life was fair?! Life isn’t fair, life is tough, and the sooner you get used to it, the better off you’re going to be. Now quit whining.”

That’s what I usually tell The Kid, sometimes followed by a suggestion that he does well in school so that he can become an attorney to fight for what he thinks is fair but until then he has to do whatever I tell him to do now pick up your dirty socks and put them where they belong.

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Maximu§ Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:29:36pm

If talk radio gets shut down, blogs like this would be targeted next.

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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:31:20pm

re: #129 MandyManners

LOL
Good for you. My mother never suggested I go to law school - she recommended I marry someone rich.
(college was a waste of money for a girl…)
feh

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:31:26pm

re: #130 Maximu§

If talk radio gets shut down, blogs like this would be targeted next.

BINGO.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:32:24pm

re: #131 Killer Tomato

LOL
Good for you. My mother never suggested I go to law school - she recommended I marry someone rich.
(college was a waste of money for a girl…)
feh

It useta’ be the way things are.

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lurking faith Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:33:38pm

re: #108 Oh no…Sand People!

I get your point, but if there were no regulation of the airwaves at all, then anybody who has the money and feels like it could set up a transmitter that interfered with police frequencies, or air traffic control frequencies, or wireless phone frequencies, or …

A licensing system for broadcasters is necessary.

But that doesn’t mean we should have to let the government dictate the content of broadcasts.

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Penny T. Wienerdog Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:34:29pm

Anybody have a copy of Woody Allen’s Sleeper?

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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:34:38pm

re: #133 MandyManners

Funny story -
I decided that wasn’t the road I wished to take - left home at 17 and joined the military.
Brother - the one ‘entitled’ to go to college - married a woman who had an incredible career - he stayed home and raised the kids.
heh

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Bob Dillon Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:34:54pm

re: #9 Dustyvet

Article the third [Amendment I]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Now, I’m sure the argument will be that they are not “abridging the freedom of speech” but adding to it.

This could be one hell of a fight.

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rightymouse Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:36:13pm

“I think the Fairness Doctrine should be reinstated,” Hinchey told CNNRadio. Hinchey says he could make it part of a bill he plans to introduce later this year overhauling radio and t-v ownership laws.”

Radio and TV ownership laws? What’s next? Censored cable on top of creating sychophantic liberal radio?

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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:38:01pm

re: #138 rightymouse

Radio and TV ownership laws? What’s next? Censored cable on top of creating sychophantic liberal radio?

Sure! Why not! Dissent is no longer patriotic, doncha know.

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rightymouse Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:39:23pm

re: #139 Killer Tomato

Sure! Why not! Dissent is no longer patriotic, doncha know.

This is scary. :(

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Dr. Shalit Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:39:49pm

Equal Time, eh? Does that mean we get the CBS News Hour with Couric and COULTER? Don’t think so.

-S-

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:40:59pm

re: #136 Killer Tomato

Funny story -
I decided that wasn’t the road I wished to take - left home at 17 and joined the military.
Brother - the one ‘entitled’ to go to college - married a woman who had an incredible career - he stayed home and raised the kids.
heh

What did your mom think?

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Penny T. Wienerdog Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:41:50pm

re: #141 Dr. Shalit

Equal Time, eh? Does that mean we get the CBS News Hour with Couric and COULTER? Don’t think so.

-S-

Didn’t I see that on “Celebrity Deathmatch?”

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Bob Dillon Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:43:14pm

re: #140 rightymouse

This is scary. :(

And with the fruit loops running two of the branches of government and possibly all three very soon … scary indeed.

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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:45:59pm

re: #142 MandyManners

Well since my brother is crown prince of the universe and can do no wrong, she thought it was wonderful of him to be so self-sacrificing, blah, blah, blah (plus she saved a fortune not paying for his tuition).
I, on the other hand, am a dismal failure as a woman - no husband, no kids. (just to irritate her I send her ‘grandmother’ cards from my cats)

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:46:18pm

re: #137 Bobibutu

Now, I’m sure the argument will be that they are not “abridging the freedom of speech” but adding to it.

This could be one hell of a fight.

Technology has rendered the FD unneccessary.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:46:44pm

re: #145 Killer Tomato

Well since my brother is crown prince of the universe and can do no wrong, she thought it was wonderful of him to be so self-sacrificing, blah, blah, blah (plus she saved a fortune not paying for his tuition).
I, on the other hand, am a dismal failure as a woman - no husband, no kids. (just to irritate her I send her ‘grandmother’ cards from my cats)

LOL!

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Penny T. Wienerdog Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:49:59pm

What concerns me even more it that I feel we are on the verge of another totalitarian regime similar to the Nazis. In the beginning Hitler was just seen as another street hustler. Look at the damage his government did. The first thing Hitler did was use propaganda to tell the people who he felt the enemy was, then he took control of all the media, then he severely punished dissent. I wish the entitlement crowd would wake up and see the kind of irrevocable damage they have done to this country. They are not immune to any of this.

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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:51:14pm

argh - laundry calls.
See you all later tonight.

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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:52:34pm

If the left really want to do this - then they are anti-free speech left-wing fascists.

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quickjustice Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:54:34pm

Hinchey is, and has long been, a shame and disgrace to the people of the state of New York.

152

FrogMarch Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:56:51pm

“right-wing” radio IS the balance to a whole media that is almost completely progressive liberal/left-wing and pro-Democrat party.

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_RememberTonyC Sat, Feb 14, 2009 12:57:06pm

when the fairness doctrine was instituted in the late 1940s, there was far less media than there was in 1987 when it was discontinued. Now in 2009, there is far more media available than there even was in 1987. nobody can objectively argue that the fairness doctrine needs to be reinstated because there are insufficient outlets for multiple views. so it is blatantly obvious that this is aimed directly at conservative talk radio. and if the dems try this before 2010, they are going to suffer serious blowback in the midterm elections. i really hope they don’t even try it, but if they do, it is going to create a shit storm far larger than they ever dreamed. and such an act will make them look like totalitarians who cannot win an argument on its own merit. and independent voters like me will make them pay.

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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:04:45pm

The left do not like to debate in the arena of ideas. Instead, the left want to shut any opposition to their group think down. Like any good Stalinist.
(all hidden under the left’s #1 thug tactic - semantic gymnastics and Orwellian scare tactics)

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jjmckay1216 Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:05:24pm

re: #58 SteveC

Rush says he’s sticking with traditional AM Radio, but something like a rigorously enforced Fairness Doctrine could push him to Satellite Radio. And Sirius just declared bankruptcy the other day…. Rush could save them just like he saved AM.

wrong. Report: Liberty Offers Bridge Loan To Sirius XM The loan would help SIRIUS XM avoid filing Chapter 11 bankruptcy or an unfriendly takeover by CHARLIE ERGEN’s ECHOSTAR, whose DISH NETWORK is a bitter rival of LIBERTY’s DIRECTV.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:06:26pm

re: #153 _RememberTonyC

when the fairness doctrine was instituted in the late 1940s, there was far less media than there was in 1987 when it was discontinued. Now in 2009, there is far more media available than there even was in 1987. nobody can objectively argue that the fairness doctrine needs to be reinstated because there are insufficient outlets for multiple views. so it is blatantly obvious that this is aimed directly at conservative talk radio. and if the dems try this before 2010, they are going to suffer serious blowback in the midterm elections. i really hope they don’t even try it, but if they do, it is going to create a shit storm far larger than they ever dreamed. and such an act will make them look like totalitarians who cannot win an argument on its own merit. and independent voters like me will make them pay.

They’ll take another approach such as the need for local control or the need for multi-cult diversity.

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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:12:26pm

re: #156 MandyManners

They’ll take another approach such as the need for local control or the need for multi-cult diversity.

Exactly - like every semantic lefty scam (examples: Welfare is now called a “tax cut” and the “Employee Free Choice Act” is just an END to the secret ballot, (stealth unionization) etc… ) the left will simply re-name the fairness doctrine something more palpable for the dummy masses. Bill Clinton is hinting at using the word “balance”. “Diversity” is another helpful lefty buzz word. The left are clever and deceptive - they will think of something.

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_RememberTonyC Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:14:08pm

re: #156 MandyManners

They’ll take another approach such as the need for local control or the need for multi-cult diversity.

Mandy … they can call it whatever the hell they want to call it. But if they try it, they’re going down in flames. The sheep may buy it, but I am already writing to politicians with my feelings.

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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:16:23pm

The left have NPR and Air America. Rush is on 3 hours a day. Air America is an all-day format.

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MrPaulRevere Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:17:57pm

Audio: Camille Paglia rips the Fairness Doctrine to shreds….I love the part where she mocks NPR….[Link: hotair.com…]

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Dr. Shalit Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:17:57pm

re: #18 EmmmieG

Would Rush have to go pirate? Would we end up like the Soviets, crouching in the woods with homemade radios, trying to catch his signal from his secret hideout or off-shore broadcasting station?

Well, probably not. Most stations would sacrifice the little guys to keep Rush, and that would be sad. There should be room for many voices to speak for the conservative side.

EmmieG -

At today’s stock price of 10 CENTS per share, RUSH could probably buy SIRIUS/XM and make it into REALLY SERIOUS RADIO. Alternatively, buy them out of Bankruptcy. Millions of already installed receivers await such a move.
RUSH - ARE YOU READING?

-S-

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:21:06pm

re: #157 FrogMarch

Exactly - like every semantic lefty scam (examples: Welfare is now called a “tax cut” and the “Employee Free Choice Act” is just an END to the secret ballot, (stealth unionization) etc… ) the left will simply re-name the fairness doctrine something more palpable for the dummy masses. Bill Clinton is hinting at using the word “balance”. “Diversity” is another helpful lefty buzz word. The left are clever and deceptive - they will think of something.

It’s not gonna’ fly no matter what they name it.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:21:55pm

re: #158 _RememberTonyC

Mandy … they can call it whatever the hell they want to call it. But if they try it, they’re going down in flames. The sheep may buy it, but I am already writing to politicians with my feelings.

You can call a turd a piece of chocolate but, it’s still a turd.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:22:35pm

re: #159 FrogMarch

The left have NPR and Air America. Rush is on 3 hours a day. Air America is an all-day format.

Stabenow’s husband is an executive VP with Air America.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:22:52pm

re: #160 MrPaulRevere

Audio: Camille Paglia rips the Fairness Doctrine to shreds….I love the part where she mocks NPR….[Link: hotair.com…]

Bookmarked.

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Bob Dillon Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:27:51pm

re: #146 MandyManners

Technology has rendered the FD unneccessary.

Agreed. However the Dem’s would love to get another law on the books shackling us further into Totalitarian Socialism.

Are we headed towards another Civil War?

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:29:50pm

re: #166 Bobibutu

Agreed. However the Dem’s would love to get another law on the books shackling us further into Totalitarian Socialism.

Are we headed towards another Civil War?

I don’t give a shit about what they want to do. It’s not gonna’ happen.

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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:33:10pm

re: #164 MandyManners

Stabenow’s husband is an executive VP with Air America.

Shocka!
The left’s true intentions, I think, are that they want to push Air America into Rush’s show. it’s not enough to have Air America on another station (all day), no no - they want to shove Air America down our throats and remove Rush’s voice.

That’s the left’s idea of “Balance”.

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_RememberTonyC Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:33:46pm

re: #163 MandyManners

Just dashed off notes to both of my senators and my congressman (all democrats) letting them know what i think of any politician who supports the reinstatement of the FD.

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Bob Dillon Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:35:50pm

re: #167 MandyManners

I don’t give a shit about what they want to do. It’s not gonna’ happen.

I will fight them tooth and nail as well - but they just shoved a crap sandwich down our throats and no one marched on the Capitol.

Zer0 says it’s just the beginning.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:40:08pm

re: #168 FrogMarch

Shocka!
The left’s true intentions, I think, are that they want to push Air America into Rush’s show. it’s not enough to have Air America on another station (all day), no no - they want to shove Air America down our throats and remove Rush’s voice.

That’s the left’s idea of “Balance”.

So, what are we gonna’ do about it?

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:40:33pm

re: #169 _RememberTonyC

Just dashed off notes to both of my senators and my congressman (all democrats) letting them know what i think of any politician who supports the reinstatement of the FD.

GOOD FOR YOU! I’m working on my letters this weekend.

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_RememberTonyC Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:41:43pm

re: #172 MandyManners

GOOD FOR YOU! I’m working on my letters this weekend.

go girl :)

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:42:34pm

re: #170 Bobibutu

I will fight them tooth and nail as well - but they just shoved a crap sandwich down our throats and no one marched on the Capitol.

Zer0 says it’s just the beginning.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

In one way, this is more important than the spending law because it is intended to reduce dissident voices.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:43:27pm

re: #173 _RememberTonyC

Both of mine are against it but, the Democrat needs to be reminded just how against it his constituents are.

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_RememberTonyC Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:45:09pm

re: #174 MandyManners

This is the exact text of what I wrote to Chris Dodd, Joe Lieberman, and Congressman John Larson:

Dear _______ … I am writing to urge you not to support the reinstatement of the so called “Fairness Doctrine.” When the Fairness Doctrine was instituted in the late 1940s, there was far less media than there was in 1987 when it was discontinued. Now in 2009, there is far more media available than there even was in 1987. Nobody can objectively argue that the Fairness Doctrine needs to be reinstated because there are insufficient outlets for multiple views. So it is blatantly obvious that this is aimed directly at conservative talk radio. And if the Democrats try this before 2010, it will be impossible for me to continue to support any candidate who supports reinstating the Fairness Doctrine. I really hope the Democrat controlled government doesn’t even try it, but if they do, it is going to create a storm of controversy far larger than they ever dreamed. And such an act will make Democrats look like totalitarians who cannot win an argument on its own merit. And independent voters like me will make them pay at the polls.

Respectfully Yours,

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Bob Dillon Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:49:41pm

re: #174 MandyManners

In one way, this is more important than the spending law because it is intended to reduce dissident voices.

Fair enough. I’m just sayin’ they shoved Porkulus thru - and are now drunk with power and arrogance. Anything is possible and they could care less what we think.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:55:33pm

re: #176 _RememberTonyC

This is the exact text of what I wrote to Chris Dodd, Joe Lieberman, and Congressman John Larson:

Dear _______ … I am writing to urge you not to support the reinstatement of the so called “Fairness Doctrine.” When the Fairness Doctrine was instituted in the late 1940s, there was far less media than there was in 1987 when it was discontinued. Now in 2009, there is far more media available than there even was in 1987. Nobody can objectively argue that the Fairness Doctrine needs to be reinstated because there are insufficient outlets for multiple views. So it is blatantly obvious that this is aimed directly at conservative talk radio. And if the Democrats try this before 2010, it will be impossible for me to continue to support any candidate who supports reinstating the Fairness Doctrine. I really hope the Democrat controlled government doesn’t even try it, but if they do, it is going to create a storm of controversy far larger than they ever dreamed. And such an act will make Democrats look like totalitarians who cannot win an argument on its own merit. And independent voters like me will make them pay at the polls.

Respectfully Yours,

Good letter. I think I’ll use “media” instead of MFM in mine.

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MandyManners Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:56:30pm

re: #177 Bobibutu

Fair enough. I’m just sayin’ they shoved Porkulus thru - and are now drunk with power and arrogance. Anything is possible and they could care less what we think.

They’re gonna’ have a nasty hangover by the time we’ve brought them to their knees over this.

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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:59:15pm

re: #171 MandyManners

So, what are we gonna’ do about it?

At election time, throw out any left-wing anti-free speech democrats that would sign on to such a complete slap at our constitutional rights and access to free speech.
fight these anti- free speech fascists. Fight em!

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reine.de.tout Sat, Feb 14, 2009 1:59:45pm

OT OT OT OT OT

The cookbook is ready for sale! Click my nic.

Final price is $16.41 before postage - that is more than I originally told you it would cost, but when we fixed the “glitch”, there were more pages than before and the books are priced based on number of pages.

Many thanks to:
Ploome, the idea person, for suggesting the project
FlakMusic, who did the heavy lifting getting this in pdf format and uploading it to the publishing site, AND for the back cover
Jaunte for the wonderful front cover artwork
vxbush for proofreading - any errors that may remain are not her fault!
And everyone who submitted a recipe or suggestions!

I hope everyone enjoys the book!

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_RememberTonyC Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:00:53pm

re: #178 MandyManners

the clear message has to be “we know what you’re trying to do, and we will make you pay if you are arrogant enough to push it.”

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Bob Dillon Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:01:20pm

re: #179 MandyManners

They’re gonna’ have a nasty hangover by the time we’ve brought them to their knees over this.

I admire your tenacity Ms. M.

Here’s to it spreading like wildfire.

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yesandno Sat, Feb 14, 2009 2:28:22pm

This is the one piece of legislature that I will fight tooth and nail.

There is nothing fair about it and it needs to renamed. It is another move of the government to take over independent business in the guise of government protecting us from ourselves. If a liberal radio station was supported by the population it served, then advertising would come and they would be on the airways. This is a problem not with ideology, but with inability to gather listeners. And that is not the ideology slant, but the constant whining that does them in. They cannot support their ideology without tearing some other down. I couldn’t imagine listening to 3 minutes of Al Frankenstein, never mind 3 hours. Would have to duct tape my head.

If we are talking about ideological slant, we cannot let them limit the argument to only talk radio. We must always emphasize the breadth of newspapers, the alphabet news media, cable TV and the Internet as also being sources that, if anything, present strong liberal bias.

This will require everyone to write everyone they know who can influence the stoppage of the bill….over and over.

This is the line in the sand………….WE THE PEOPLE.

When Chuck-you Schumer compared talk radio to pornography, then I knew this was coming up……….

I hate these people and what they stand for.

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FredWM Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:22:58pm

The Fairness Doctrine has nothing to do with getting a balance of Liberal talkers on the air. If a good liberal talker was available now, he or she would find any number of stations beating a path to their door. The Fairness Doctrine is an attempt to close down political talk radio in its entirety. Just look at it from a station owner’s point of view. With the Fairness Doctrine owners would have to keep detailed records and hire squads of lawyers to defend their every broadcasting decision. And the headaches would never end, because just as soon as they won one or two big cases, another 100 would pop up. That’s why there was no talk radio the last time the Fairness Doctrine was in effect. It’s just too much trouble and expense when compared to those stations running Top 40 or Golden Oldies formats. The Fairness Doctrine means no political talk radio, period.

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wiffersnapper Sat, Feb 14, 2009 3:27:42pm

You can’t win at everything, liberals. Deal with the fact that you just can’t win at talk radio. Your bullshit only goes so far with the American people.

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Taqyia2Me Sat, Feb 14, 2009 4:30:32pm

re: #157 FrogMarch

Exactly - like every semantic lefty scam (examples: Welfare is now called a “tax cut” and the “Employee Free Choice Act” is just an END to the secret ballot, (stealth unionization) etc… ) the left will simply re-name the fairness doctrine something more palpable for the dummy masses. Bill Clinton is hinting at using the word “balance”. “Diversity” is another helpful lefty buzz word. The left are clever and deceptive - they will think of something.

Excuse me for going biblical on this, but, my nightmares lately equate this “Employye Free Choice Act” to accepting the mark of the beast as depicted in the Book of Revelation.

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kochsr Sat, Feb 14, 2009 5:01:28pm

It should be noted that Mo Hinchey is a Trustee of WAMC “public” radio here in the Albany, NY area. WAMC is run by the far-left Alan Chartock, who also suffers terribly from BDS. Somehow I don’t think that Mo wants to provide balance to the extreme left-wing views that are the norm on WAMC.

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LawhawkSF Sat, Feb 14, 2009 11:12:04pm

As horrific as I find the whole concept of bringing back the unfairness doctrine, I’m even more worried about the next logical step—application of the doctrine to the internet. We all know that the doctrine is not about fairness nor even an equal number of articles and posts, but rather the promotion of the views of the ruling elite and the suppression of oppositional views.

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