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1 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:13:38pm

Oh, barf!

2 jcm  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:13:46pm

Lunch time...
No appetite!

3 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:13:47pm

Goodbye, Fiscally Sound America.

4 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:13:59pm

Hope. Change. ARUGULA FOR ALL!

/What?

5 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:14:09pm

Teleprompter....engaged.

6 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:14:25pm

The feed is focused so as not to show the teleprompter.
But since he's not stuttering and "umm'ing'' and ''er'ing'' it MUST be there somewhere.

7 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:14:25pm

This is one of a sadest days in this nation's history.

8 sneezey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:14:35pm

Welcome to the New Steal...

9 capitalist piglet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:14:42pm

Nice shot at Cheney. What a jerk.

10 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:08pm

re: #3 acwgusa

Goodbye, Fiscally Sound America.

Fiscally Sound America? I think that went out the window a loooooooooong time ago. We just went from "bad" to "asinine" today though.

11 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:10pm

Medical records now. Did he mention that during his campaign? Not.

12 wiffersnapper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:14pm

I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message of socialism

13 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:17pm

I have only heard snippets of his speech but he is still beating the bi-partisan drum. How delusional is this guy? This pork bill was not bi-partisan by any stretch of the imagination.

14 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:33pm

The DOW is trying heroically to come back from its 300+ drop early today.

15 Peacekeeper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:36pm

Abortions for some, tiny American flags for others!

16 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:39pm

Dow -241.97 (-3.08%)

17 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:39pm

Are you sure these are human beings and not aliens, trying to destroy us?
It is, after all, an astronomical figure.

/do I need to?

18 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:51pm

A bunch of fools allowed another bunch of fools to loan money at strange rates and low/no documentation to another bunch of fools. And we are designated the bunch of fools to pay for those fools by the biggest fool of them all.

/Cynicism Mode on.

19 wiffersnapper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:54pm

If you're not outraged, you haven't been paying attention

20 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:15:58pm

Ayn Rand's coffin has been set to 'spin cycle'.

21 Macker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:16:07pm

re: #8 sneezey

Welcome to the New Steal...

Or was that the Raw Deal?

/bohica

22 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:16:17pm

re: #16 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Dow -241.97 (-3.08%)

Let's all hope Geithner keeps his piehole shut or we'll be down 500 in no time.

23 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:16:41pm

I'm Barack Obama, and I approve this message making it impossible for you to earn your own dollar and keep it.

24 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:16:43pm

re: #18 acwgusa

A bunch of fools allowed another bunch of fools to loan money at strange rates and low/no documentation to another bunch of fools. And we are designated the bunch of fools to pay for those fools by the biggest fool of them all.

/Cynicism Mode on.

And now, they're taking money from us to pay these fools.
Where's the A-Team?

25 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:16:48pm

re: #8 sneezey

Welcome to the New Steal...

Obamanomics explained in 3 words - The New Steal!

Well done. I will be borrowing that line.

26 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:16:53pm

Bend over, here comes CHANGE!

27 MJ  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:16:59pm

When does the campaign end?

28 Elcid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:17:23pm

Didn't watch, nor did I listen. I'll take a wild ass guess...

"I Won"

29 J.S.  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:17:27pm

Oil is now trading at around 35 dollars...and natural gas is at 4.00 (I know some people who signed a contract for natural gas and are locked in at 11.00 dollars)...Some of the "green" investment may have been smart when gasoline was at 4 dollars, but now? I don't know...

30 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:17:35pm

re: #24 Kosh's Shadow

And now, they're taking money from us to pay these fools.
Where's the A-Team?

Yes, but we aren't fooled.

/We won't be fooled again.

31 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:17:37pm

re: #27 MJ

When does the campaign end?

Why Govern when you can campaign?

32 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:17:39pm

Is his rhetoric soaring yet?

33 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:17:39pm

Why build roads when cars are going the way of the dinosaur?

34 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:17:54pm

Send Joe Biden to the moon. There's a goal.

35 VioletTiger  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:17:59pm

re: #6 mean Gene
It's a stealth teleprompter.

36 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:03pm

re: #13 Jetpilot1101

I have only heard snippets of his speech but he is still beating the bi-partisan drum. How delusional is this guy? This pork bill was not bi-partisan by any stretch of the imagination.

"Bi-partisan": He screws people from both parties.

37 Racer X  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:16pm

So it was extremely urgent to get a vote on Friday - even though lawmakers had not even read the bill - so it could sit for a few days to allow Obama his glory in a signing ceremony today?

This shit stinks.

38 Kreon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:21pm

let's hope for the best.

after all, it could have been a billion dollars more.

OT: Today is the day some broadcasters are switching off analog signal.

39 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:22pm

re: #32 Kenneth

Is his rhetoric soaring yet?

To hell with that, I just ran outside to check San Diego harbor, the water level is going UP!

40 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:26pm

What do these "smart meters" do? Shut off my power when I go over my rationed amount of electricity?

41 rain of lead  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:27pm

ya know how to tell when a politician is lying......
his lips are moving.

so much truth in that one little statement

42 DeerMusic  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:41pm

re: #13 Jetpilot1101
One of the hallmarks of the Left is their abuse of language. Words are changed to mean something new and usually unrelated or opposite in meaning.

Perhaps we should get used to it, at least for now.

43 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:41pm

Oh good... he's going to "make our planet safer for our children".

44 notutopia  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:45pm

re: #35 VioletTiger

It's a stealth teleprompter.

It's probably an ear bud feed.

45 vxbush  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:50pm

Note that the web site to keep track of the results of this bill are posted at recovery.org, where there is pretty much just a shell present. Of course, this is a shell game, so it's only reasonable.

/repeated from previous thread

46 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:18:57pm

re: #5 SasquatchOnSteroids

Teleprompter....engaged.

I hope he's using the teleprompter that Iowahawk quoted.
I'd like to hear Bambi stumble into some "hot kinky I-Mac" stuff.

47 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:19:03pm

Put money in the pockets of people who have not paid taxes. That's how progressive the tax cuts are.

48 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:19:13pm

Didn't Clinton promise some 50,000 new police officers back in the day which never materialized?

49 Elcid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:19:15pm

re: #34 HelloDare

Send Joe Biden to the moon. There's a goal.

When Joey gets there, remind him to say hello to former Cal Gov, now AG...Jerry 'moonbeam' Brown.

50 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:19:17pm
51 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:19:46pm

re: #40 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What do these "smart meters" do? Shut off my power when I go over my rationed amount of electricity?

Prolly. Any takers on wether or not AlGore is going to be one of the first to get a Smart Meter? Not.

52 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:19:46pm

No taxation without representation.

53 MJ  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:19:47pm

I feel like the folks must felt watching Stalin announcing a new Five Year Plan.

54 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:19:49pm

re: #40 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What do these "smart meters" do? Shut off my power when I go over my rationed amount of electricity?

Shhh. That's for implementation later once everyone has to have one.

55 Racer X  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:19:53pm

re: #36 Ward Cleaver

"Bi-partisan": He screws people from both parties.

"Bi-partisan": one, two, or even three Republicans cave.

Out of what, two hundred?

56 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:19:58pm

Shouldn't that read, "Speaketh?"

57 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:20:25pm

re: #50 Ward Cleaver

In other news -

This just in: A-Rod is full of shit.

Water is wet.

Grass is Green.

What goes up, must come down.

The sky is blue.

A bear shits in the woods.

It's a steroid too far for A-Rod.

58 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:20:29pm

Gold is going thru the roof.

59 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:20:34pm
60 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:20:34pm

re: #37 Racer X

So it was extremely urgent to get a vote on Friday - even though lawmakers had not even read the bill - so it could sit for a few days to allow Obama his glory in a signing ceremony today?

This shit stinks.

Well, let's think about this logically for a minute: What EXACTLY is the purpose of this bill? We already know it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with stimulating the American economy, recovering from a recession, or any of the normal reasons for passing a "stimulus package". No, this is designed for one thing and one thing only - advancing Obama's agenda and confirming the Democrats' place in power for the next 40 years. I'd say, at the moment, it's all about The Zero.

61 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:20:37pm

re: #55 Racer X

"Bi-partisan": one, two, or even three Republicans cave.

Out of what, two hundred?

Just the three biggest brain-dead morons.

62 Racer X  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:20:55pm

re: #8 sneezey

Welcome to the New Steal

Rotating title?

63 bulwrk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:21:02pm

He probably wanted to sign this bill in the Oval Office but the feeling that the spirit of Regan is looking over his shoulder frowning makes him a little queezy

64 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:21:02pm

We have already tried to hold you responsible before the fact!

65 rawmuse  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:21:12pm

re: #3 acwgusa

Goodbye, Fiscally Sound America.

That is a goodbye that I uttered years ago, unfortunately. This is just the latest insult.

66 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:21:14pm

re: #50 Ward Cleaver

In other news -

This just in: A-Rod is full of shit.

Metaphorically and actually.

67 ilzito guacamolito  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:21:16pm

re: #48 midwestgak

Yes. Maybe there's midnight basketball tucked in the Porkulus bill too.

68 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:21:19pm

re: #44 notutopia

It's probably an ear bud feed.


Like Broadcast News! Wow, our very own meat-puppet for a President! What a country!

69 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:21:27pm

Sign the damn bill already, you bloviating sack of hot air!

70 Dasher  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:21:32pm

I have returned to Bill Clinton mode, updated to Obama mode - Whenever I see him on any TV channel, I turn the channel, or turn of the TV.

71 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:21:33pm

Dow now down 261.88.

72 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:21:53pm

Has he said, "for the good of the american people' and at the same time rub his nose with his middle finger?

73 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:22:06pm

re: #36 Ward Cleaver

There was more bipartisan opposition to this porkfest than there was support.

7 Democrats in the House voted against this mess. Only 3 GOP senators - Collins, Specter, and Snowe voted for it.

That's all that the Democrats could muster with all the pork.

Nice.

And just wait until folks start to realize the damage done by this mess; the higher taxes at all levels of government, the higher costs, and the damage to the economy. It will happen. But the Democrats had to do something to show they were caring for the economy - so they passed the most irresponsible and short-sighted legislation in history. They put their political ambitions to turn America to the hard left ahead of fiscal responsibility. It's the economy, Stupid.

The only ones benefiting from the stimulus is the government. They grow - everyone else shrinks.

74 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:22:18pm

re: #70 Dasher

I have returned to Bill Clinton mode, updated to Obama mode - Whenever I see him on any TV channel, I turn the channel, or turn of the TV.

I do that, too, but first, I say, "Shut up, asshole!"

75 Racer X  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:22:23pm

I want my MTV stimulus!

76 CynicalConservative  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:22:28pm

re: #69 acwgusa

Sign the damn bill already away our future, you bloviating sack of hot air!


Fixed.

77 notutopia  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:22:36pm

re: #69 acwgusa

Sign the damn bill already, you bloviating sack of hot air!

How can he sign something he obviously has not read every page of this tome himself?

78 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:22:44pm

re: #72 Oh no...Sand People!

Has he said, "for the good of the american people' and at the same time rub his nose with his middle finger?

He needs to find another orifice for that finger.

/Man, I am in a MOOD today.

79 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:22:53pm

re: #58 unreconstructed rebel
Do you know if the gold dealers require a social security or TIN when you purchase?

80 Dasher  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:23:13pm

re: #74 Ward Cleaver

I do that, too, but first, I say, "Shut up, asshole!"

That is a nice touch.. I must add that to my regiment.

81 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:23:22pm

re: #43 Kenneth

Oh good... he's going to "make our planet safer for our children".

Make the planet safer? Okay, why not sign this crapfest in DC instead of flying RT on AIR FORCE ONE (along with the several planeloads of support staff, equipment, etc.? You know, for the good of the planet and lowering your carbon footprint! /frakking hypocrites.

82 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:23:34pm

re: #43 Kenneth

Oh good... he's going to "make our planet safer for our children".

Yeah, because they are the ones who have to pay for this thing.

83 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:23:36pm

re: #75 Racer X

I want my MTV stimulus!

At least "your money for nuthin' and your chicks for free".

84 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:23:36pm
85 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:23:45pm

Doesn't count. He signed with his left hand.

86 ThinkRight  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:23:54pm

re: #7 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

This is one of a sadest days in this nation's history.


Actually Second
November 4 , 2008 was and always will be

87 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:23:54pm
88 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:24:09pm

re: #85 HelloDare

Doesn't count. He signed with his left hand.

ROFL!

89 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:24:19pm

One way flight from Detroit to DC for a 1 Big 3 CEO in a private jet? $20,000
Round trip flight between Detroit and DC for all 3 big 3 CEOs in 3 different private jets? $120,000

Operating cost of Air Force One per hour while flying (in 2008 dollars)? $60,000/hour
Cost of round trip between DC and Denver? $390,000!

90 CynicalConservative  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:24:41pm

What's with the 10 pens?

91 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:24:48pm

I am observing a moment of silence for our country.

92 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:24:50pm

It stimulates the economy...downward.

93 teleskiguy  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:24:51pm

Why'd he have to make this Galldarned speech in my beautiful homestate of Colorado?

He's signing the damn thing as I type this! Well, I'll be checking in with my local bureaucratic office for mind detail...

94 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:25:01pm

The economy sucks
My stocks would have to rise to be down
The war on terror is kaput
Israel is going to get sold down the River
My baseball team (NYY) has been roided
My senile mother in law lives with me


So how's your day going?

95 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:25:04pm
96 notutopia  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:25:13pm

re: #91 midwestgak

I am observing a moment of silence for our country.

Joining you.

97 bulwrk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:25:16pm

Do you suppose when he signs this abomination the thought crosses his mind that he is signing away any hope of a second term?

98 MJ  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:25:23pm

In other news from the Democrats:

Burris acknowledges trying to raise money for gov.

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. – U.S. Sen. Roland Burris has acknowledged trying to raise money for former Gov. Rod Blagojevich before being appointed to the Senate.
According to a transcript posted on the Chicago Tribune's Web site, Burris told reporters in Peoria Monday night that he talked to some friends about putting together a fundraiser after being called by the ex-governor's brother.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

99 Rexatosis  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:25:34pm

Well I for one want Mr. Obama Claus to bring me a new car, and a new HDTV, and a House, and a pony, and don't forget the Red Rider Air Rifle, I promise not to shoot my eye out:)

What do you mean I don't get any presents, just the bill? :(
//////

100 Diamond Bullet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:25:43pm

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if his "speech" consists of nothing but maniacal cackling a la Sideshow Bob:

101 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:25:48pm

$787,000,000,000

102 NY Nana  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:25:56pm

re: #82 Alouette

I have a feeling that our grandchildren's grandchildren will still be paying.

103 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:26:05pm

re: #97 bulwrk

Do you suppose when he signs this abomination the thought crosses his mind that he is signing away any hope of a second term?

has anyone told him he can run again?

104 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:26:10pm

re: #90 CynicalConservative

What's with the 10 pens?

In signing the bill? (I'm not watching the broadcast.)
Long-standing custom.
The pens are given out as souvenirs.

105 joncelli  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:26:28pm

re: #58 unreconstructed rebel

I remember in the Carter years when gold was selling in the 1000s of dollars per troy ounce. I wonder how much that is in current dollars.

106 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:26:29pm

re: #89 gmsc

One way flight from Detroit to DC for a 1 Big 3 CEO in a private jet? $20,000
Round trip flight between Detroit and DC for all 3 big 3 CEOs in 3 different private jets? $120,000

Operating cost of Air Force One per hour while flying (in 2008 dollars)? $60,000/hour
Cost of round trip between DC and Denver? $390,000!

One flick of the pen to sign our children's children's children's future away? Priceless.

For everything else there is mastercar..oh..wait...nothing left.

107 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:26:37pm

re: #79 snowcrash

Do you know if the gold dealers require a social security or TIN when you purchase?

I don't. But I am looking at their how to order page.
....
That page says nothing about SS# or TIN.

Good luck!

108 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:26:39pm

Dow -258.14

109 CynicalConservative  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:26:46pm

re: #104 pre-Boomer Marine brat

In signing the bill? (I'm not watching the broadcast.)
Long-standing custom.
The pens are given out as souvenirs.

Ahhh, thanks!

110 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:27:01pm

re: #104 pre-Boomer Marine brat

In signing the bill? (I'm not watching the broadcast.)
Long-standing custom.
The pens are given out as souvenirs.


If I could get my hands on one of those pens, I'd attach it to a voodoo doll.

111 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:27:03pm

re: #104 pre-Boomer Marine brat

In signing the bill? (I'm not watching the broadcast.)
Long-standing custom.
The pens are given out as souvenirs.

Except in this case you have bend over and....never mind.

112 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:27:22pm

re: #90 CynicalConservative

What's with the 10 pens?

That's typical for important legislation. You sign the bills, and key individuals get the pens for inclusion in legislation mounted in shadow boxes.

113 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:27:37pm

GREEN for everyone! Well, everyone with the correct political associations.

114 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:27:38pm

re: #89 gmsc

One way flight from Detroit to DC for a 1 Big 3 CEO in a private jet? $20,000
Round trip flight between Detroit and DC for all 3 big 3 CEOs in 3 different private jets? $120,000

Operating cost of Air Force One per hour while flying (in 2008 dollars)? $60,000/hour
Cost of round trip between DC and Denver? $390,000!

Looking down your nose at all the bitter clingy peons as you consign their future to oblivion with the simple stroke of a pen: priceless.

115 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:27:40pm

He's a liar and a thief.

116 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:27:45pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

Why'd he have to make this Galldarned speech in my beautiful homestate of Colorado?

He's signing the damn thing as I type this! Well, I'll be checking in with my local bureaucratic office for mind detail...

I swear it's a swipe at Capitalism and Atlas Shrugged. Galt's Gulch was in Colorado.

117 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:27:45pm

re: #40 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What do these "smart meters" do? Shut off my power when I go over my rationed amount of electricity?

The idea behind the smart meters is so they can charge more during "peak hours" for your electricity.

118 teleskiguy  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:27:50pm

re: #99 Rexatosis

and don't forget the Red Rider Air Rifle, I promise not to shoot my eye out:)

That would be an Official Red Rider 200 shot Carbine Action Range Model Air Rifle!

119 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:27:54pm

TV anchor just called the bill "the new" New Deal! laughable if not so sad.

120 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:28:12pm

re: #112 lawhawk

That's typical for important legislation. You sign the bills, and key individuals get the pens for inclusion in legislation mounted in shadow boxes.

Sell the pens on eBay. That will at least stimulate the economy.

121 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:28:13pm

I can't believe that they preempted Judge David Young for this shit!

122 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:28:17pm

re: #73 lawhawk

There was more bipartisan opposition to this porkfest than there was support.

7 Democrats in the House voted against this mess. Only 3 GOP senators - Collins, Specter, and Snowe voted for it.

That's all that the Democrats could muster with all the pork.

Nice.

And just wait until folks start to realize the damage done by this mess; the higher taxes at all levels of government, the higher costs, and the damage to the economy. It will happen. But the Democrats had to do something to show they were caring for the economy - so they passed the most irresponsible and short-sighted legislation in history. They put their political ambitions to turn America to the hard left ahead of fiscal responsibility. It's the economy, Stupid.

The only ones benefiting from the stimulus is the government. They grow - everyone else shrinks.

'Caring' for the economy - thats it in a nushell!
Its the touchy-feely approach, not the hard-headed, clear-eyed analysis which shows what must be done, even if it hurts - no, one's gotta be 'caring', like one's gotta be 'caring' for, oh, everyhting, really .. thats how the LLL mindset works:
'Oh look - its a crisis, show that you 'care'!'
Never mind the harsh econmomic reality ...

123 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:28:18pm

re: #119 snowcrash

TV anchor just called the bill "the new" New Deal! laughable if not so sad.

What network?

124 redheadredstate  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:28:22pm

Being a lass of Scottish ancestry I thought this quote from MacBeth would be appropriate to the situation:

“It is a tale … full of sound and fury; signifying nothing.”

Of course, this quote is not only appropo to the great and powerful O's speech regarding the porkulus bill but appropo anytime that creature opens it's jaws.

125 P-DEX  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:28:28pm

I sat back and enjoyed the last few minutes of a mostly free America at my job, watching the clock, before the Bamster signed us and future generations into the poor house. No, America is not done as a country. Not by a long shot. But she most likely will never be the same.

I will miss America as she was. Just like I miss the old, pre-shahira Great Britain. Good days, good days...

126 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:28:44pm

re: #112 lawhawk

That's typical for important legislation. You sign the bills, and key individuals get the pens for inclusion in legislation mounted in shadow boxes.

Wow, talk about increasing your carbon footprint.

127 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:28:51pm

re: #105 joncelli

I remember in the Carter years when gold was selling in the 1000s of dollars per troy ounce. I wonder how much that is in current dollars.

I remember in the $800s.

128 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:28:55pm

re: #110 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

For the record, I duly note that you said "to" ... not "into".

/I didn't say "into" either

129 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:29:27pm

re: #117 CyanSnowHawk

The idea behind the smart meters is so they can charge more during "peak hours" for your electricity.

Ah.. they're actually anal probes.

130 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:29:32pm

Barry speaking again? No wonder the markets are in free fall

131 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:29:38pm

re: #128 pre-Boomer Marine brat

For the record, I duly note that you said "to" ... not "into".

/I didn't say "into" either


heh heh.

132 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:29:39pm

re: #120 HelloDare

Sell the pens on eBay. That will at least stimulate the economy.

Tell the Dems to use them as suppositories.

133 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:29:49pm

re: #40 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What do these "smart meters" do? Shut off my power when I go over my rationed amount of electricity?

The ones people put in here in CA actually turn off all juice for minutes during the time you are at work or asleep......great for frozen goods and forget having clocks!
It saves you a bit of $$ but the real test comes if you actually want to cool off or heat up your place and it won't let you.

134 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:29:54pm

re: #127 unreconstructed rebel

I remember in the $800s.

I remember when King Solomon told me never to sell my gold stock, or was that Buggsy Siegel and my casino stocks?

135 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:30:15pm

re: #119 snowcrash

TV anchor just called the bill "the new" New Deal! laughable if not so sad.

Sneezy dubed it the "The New Steal"

I think that's more accurate.

136 Spartacus50  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:30:19pm

I AM SPENDULUS

137 Dasher  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:30:27pm

I am thinking the plan is to crush the economy, so it will be an "easier" sell imposing socialism. The unintended consequence will be a revolution.

138 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:30:27pm

re: #131 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

heh heh.

ditto

139 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:30:28pm

re: #123 Nevergiveup
The Fox White House covg. guy Major Garrett in response to a soft ball question by Sheppard Smith. I do not like Smith.

140 The Shadow Do  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:30:40pm

Obama's pseudo-serious presentations just cry out for a good and proper lampooning.

Where is Monty Python when you really, really, need them.

141 joncelli  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:30:47pm

re: #127 unreconstructed rebel

I might be exaggerating mentally; all I remember was that it was high, and people were upset about it.

142 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:30:56pm

~sigh~ I wish I'd have bought GLD when I had the chance.

143 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:31:01pm

re: #132 Ward Cleaver

Tell the Dems to use them as suppositories.

Be an interesting way to sign the bill.

144 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:31:01pm

Where the hell's my unicorn?

145 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:31:22pm

re: #140 The Shadow Do

Obama's pseudo-serious presentations just cry out for a good and proper lampooning.

Where is Monty Python when you really, really, need them.

He does well enough on his own.

146 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:31:23pm

re: #142 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

~sigh~ I wish I'd have bought GLD when I had the chance.

It might pull back.

147 Rexatosis  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:31:31pm

RE: #118 Teleskiguy

Opps, forgot to be real specific when asking Mr. Obama Claus for my gifts, maybe that's why I'm only getting this lousy bill/////

148 Dasher  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:31:41pm

re: #142 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

~sigh~ I wish I'd have bought GLD when I had the chance.

I bought in awhile back may need to buy more.

149 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:31:52pm

Just wait until you need a new roof on the house and the gov won't sign off on it until you install the required upgrades like solar panels,wind turbines, etc.

150 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:32:00pm

Look at that market slide! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

151 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:32:02pm

Yes!

Long live that one friggin' polar bear!

Thank you Jesus!

152 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:32:08pm

re: #90 CynicalConservative

What's with the 10 pens?

His Pen is big.

153 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:32:34pm

re: #144 Ward Cleaver

Where the hell's my unicorn?


I know! I'm still waiting for mine..I have the yard ready for him and everything! My kids ask me every day, "Mommy, when is the unicorn cominggggg?"

154 Racer X  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:32:35pm

re: #144 Ward Cleaver

Where the hell's my unicorn?

The one I got scares the shit outta me!

155 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:32:46pm

re: #79 snowcrash

Do you know if the gold dealers require a social security or TIN when you purchase?

After a bit more looking, I found this

Which coin transactions are reportable to Uncle Sam and which are not? The Industry Council For Tangle Assets suggests the following rules: ICTA Link An example might also help: When an investor sells 25 gold Krugerrands a dealer must fill out a federal form. The same investor selling 25 gold Eagles requires no such form. Why? Because these rules are not consistent. So if government reporting requirements bother you, do your homework before investing and avoid products which fall into the reporting area. There are many gold bullion coins that have no reporting requirements. If you're an advocate of the secrecy gurus, and can visit us in person, take advantage of "no name" invoices that are legal and make up a great number of our daily transactions. The buying of rare coins is not reportable unless you pay more than $10,000 in cash.

156 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:32:54pm

re: #152 CyanSnowHawk

His Pen is big.

The O has been reading spam email from the WH servers again.

157 bulwrk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:32:57pm

re: #152 CyanSnowHawk

His Pen is big.

And powerful

158 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:33:03pm

re: #90 CynicalConservative

What's with the 10 pens?

Bought with a government contract, so only 1 in 10 actually works

159 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:33:05pm

re: #144 Ward Cleaver
Are you still waiting? We have already eaten ours! Fed a family of 4 for 2 weeks. LOL

160 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:33:10pm

re: #132 Ward Cleaver

Tell the Dems to use them as suppositories.

There's one way to use a pen to work the country's problems out!

161 MJ  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:33:25pm

re: #90 CynicalConservative

What's with the 10 pens?

He's going to pass them out to each of the reporters so they can sleep with them under their pillows.

162 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:33:27pm

At least Mitilda will get a free house.

163 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:33:40pm

re: #108 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Dow -258.14

There's still about and hour and a half to go.

164 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:33:51pm

re: #158 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bought with a government contract, so only 1 in 10 actually works


And they cost $50,000 a piece.

165 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:33:57pm

re: #152 CyanSnowHawk

His Pen is big.

To compensate for another shortcoming?

166 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:34:02pm

re: #160 gmsc

There's one way to use a pen to work the country's problems out!

The pen is mightier than the sword. The cemeteries are full of people who believed that!

167 doppelganglander  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:34:20pm

re: #119 snowcrash

TV anchor just called the bill "the new" New Deal! laughable if not so sad.

They call it that like it's a good thing. I swear to God, every incoming Congress ought to have a mandatory book to read, the way a lot of universities assign a book to all incoming freshmen. This year, it should have been "The Forgotten Man" by Amity Shlaes. I know we've discussed it here before, but I can't recommend it too highly.

168 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:34:51pm

We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they were all flown in the last war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

Yeah!

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

169 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:35:00pm

re: #152 CyanSnowHawk

His Pen is big.

They have to be in Illinois

170 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:35:02pm

re: #156 acwgusa

The O has been reading spam email from the WH servers again.

Or at least off his Crackberry Blackberry.

171 PISSED  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:35:11pm

re: #157 bulwrk

you might want to check with Michelle on that one :)

172 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:35:36pm
173 capitalist piglet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:35:42pm

re: #89 gmsc

One way flight from Detroit to DC for a 1 Big 3 CEO in a private jet? $20,000
Round trip flight between Detroit and DC for all 3 big 3 CEOs in 3 different private jets? $120,000

Operating cost of Air Force One per hour while flying (in 2008 dollars)? $60,000/hour
Cost of round trip between DC and Denver? $390,000!

What could a guy do with $400K? If I were Obama, I'd put my (and when I say "my", I mean "your") money where my mouth is, and insist on a major cutback in the costs coming from my own office.

So far, he seems to enjoy the trappings of the office a little too much.

174 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:35:58pm

Dow is climbing - someone likes this Bill ...

175 teleskiguy  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:35:59pm

"[T]he government is still taking a third of our salary. Is the government doing a third of our job? Is the government doing a third of our dishes? Our laundry? Our vacuuming? When we go to Hooters is the government tending bar making sure that one out of three margaritas is on the house? If our spouse is feeling romantic and we're tired, does the government come over to our house and take care of foreplay?" -P.J. O'Rourke

Well, P.J., it'll probably by half or two-thirds real soon.

176 ThinkRight  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:36:11pm

After the "O" is found unqualified to hold office it will not matter anymore

/moobat republican off

177 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:36:12pm

Credit where credit is overdue. sigh.

178 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:36:21pm

re: #101 Who Watches the Watchmen?

$787,000,000,000

plus interest...and it's only the beginning

179 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:36:27pm

re: #164 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

And they cost $50,000 a piece.

$7,870,000,000 per pen.

180 invictus1  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:36:46pm

re: #90 CynicalConservative

What's with the 10 pens?

Obama needed a lot of ink, in order to sign away America's financial future like that.

(Do you think the debt from this bill will ever be paid? Just more dollars to add to a debt that will never be repaid.)

181 Amer-I-Can  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:36:54pm

re: #89 gmsc

One way flight from Detroit to DC for a 1 Big 3 CEO in a private jet? $20,000
Round trip flight between Detroit and DC for all 3 big 3 CEOs in 3 different private jets? $120,000

Operating cost of Air Force One per hour while flying (in 2008 dollars)? $60,000/hour
Cost of round trip between DC and Denver? $390,000!

Fox News gave a great little bit of data this morning... Air Force One uses 10,000 gallons of jet fuel EACH WAY. That is more that the average family will consume in 30 years.

And all that waste just so "The One" can be seen in front of solar panels. Did they ever think of letting UPS deliver the solar panels to the Whitehouse? That would have been a lot less expensive.

182 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:37:01pm

re: #163 Honorary Yooper

There's still about and hour and a half to go.

To commemorate where the Market is heading, I'll play High Speed Dirt

183 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:37:13pm

I HOPE he leaves me some spare CHANGE.

184 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:37:31pm

HE owns it now.

185 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:37:36pm

I am now sorry that I didn't get that 250,000 house with the ARM and nothing down two years ago! Damnit, now I'm stuck in this townhouse I am renting!

186 doppelganglander  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:37:40pm

re: #133 mean Gene

The ones people put in here in CA actually turn off all juice for minutes during the time you are at work or asleep......great for frozen goods and forget having clocks!
It saves you a bit of $$ but the real test comes if you actually want to cool off or heat up your place and it won't let you.

That is idiotic. It reminds of of Spain. When I lived there in the late '80s, there was a drought (or maybe it's always like that, who knows). Instead of politely asking people not to use too much water, as we do here, they shut off the water supply completely from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. every day. My building had a tank on the roof that supplied enough water for basics, but I had friends who didn't. Not to be too graphic, but what are you supposed to do if you have a sick infant and no water?

187 Shug  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:37:43pm

Harry Reid STOLE 8 billion dollars from the taxpayers for the high speed rail between Los Angeles and Las Vegas.

hey dickhead, Southwest airlines charges 100 bucks round trip and you can get there in 45 minutes from like half a dozen Southern California airports.

188 notutopia  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:37:45pm

All I can think about right now is Michael Ledeen's article on 'Tocqueville on American Character'
[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

I'm grieving one more loss of our freedom toward fascism.

BBL

189 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:37:49pm

re: #167 doppelganglander
Just ordered it on line from my library. I'm #5 on the waiting list. Must be good. Thanks.

190 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:37:54pm

re: #183 DaddyG

I HOPE he leaves me some spare CHANGE.

I'm investing my spare change in firearms and ammo.

191 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:38:01pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

When we go to Hooters is the government tending bar making sure that one out of three margaritas is on the house?

I can think of no one in Congress I would want serving me a drink.

192 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:38:39pm

re: #133 mean Gene

The ones people put in here in CA actually turn off all juice for minutes during the time you are at work or asleep......great for frozen goods and forget having clocks!
It saves you a bit of $$ but the real test comes if you actually want to cool off or heat up your place and it won't let you.

Get your backup generators here .... you too can have reliable power with your new "Bagdad Powermaster".

/made in Iraq, results may vary

193 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:38:47pm

I don't know what they're called, but I'm investing in those coin machines you see at the grocery store.

194 Shug  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:38:56pm

re: #89 gmsc

One way flight from Detroit to DC for a 1 Big 3 CEO in a private jet? $20,000
Round trip flight between Detroit and DC for all 3 big 3 CEOs in 3 different private jets? $120,000

Operating cost of Air Force One per hour while flying (in 2008 dollars)? $60,000/hour
Cost of round trip between DC and Denver? $390,000!


but Michelle leaves restaurants with Doggie Bags

195 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:38:57pm

They finally put the bill up on recovery.gov AFTER he signed it not the FIVE days BEFORE the bill is signed like the SOB said he would do.
The youtube video where he says 5 days

196 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:39:23pm

I guess I'll be forking over my $28,000 to pay for this complete piece of sh*t.

It's my money, you fascist bastards.

197 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:39:25pm
198 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:39:30pm

re: #193 SasquatchOnSteroids

I don't know what they're called, but I'm investing in those coin machines you see at the grocery store.


I think they're called Coin Star...good idea. I may buy a few.

199 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:39:38pm

re: #191 unreconstructed rebel

I can think of no one in Congress I would want serving me a drink.

Didn't Italy have that porn star in their Parliament?

200 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:39:41pm

re: #166 Nevergiveup

The pen is mightier than the sword. The cemeteries are full of people who believed that!

I'll take Penis Mightier for $200, Alex

201 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:39:43pm

Does Prada make wheelbarrows?

202 Fighton03  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:39:49pm

There is nothing that comes out of "The Office of The President In Training" that I need to hear. Thanks to his amateur handling and politics of Fear and Loathing, the markets have lost more than 2000 points.

203 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:39:59pm

re: #198 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I think they're called Coin Star...good idea. I may buy a few.

Yeah, I think that's it.

204 ThinkRight  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:40:10pm

The USSA
Where we are

205 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:40:23pm

re: #200 eschew_obfuscation

I'll take Penis Mightier for $200, Alex

LOL

206 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:40:45pm

re: #194 Shug

but Michelle leaves restaurants with Doggie Bags

She does?
So - what doggie have they got then?

(I mean - she's not giving that to her children is she? Or is she?)

207 Edouard  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:40:49pm

"Too late, Americans, you suckers! Here comes my autograph, and here comes the biggest f***ing Trojan horse you ever saw!"

... at least that's what I thought I just heard

208 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:41:20pm

I was busy practicing capitalism while Bambi was signing the Declaration of Socialism.

Did anyone pass out from all the excitement?

209 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:41:28pm

re: #200 eschew_obfuscation

I'll take Penis Mightier for $200, Alex

I'll stick with Jap Anus Relations

210 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:42:02pm

re: #208 JammieWearingFool

I was busy practicing capitalism while Bambi was signing the Declaration of Socialism.

Did anyone pass out from all the excitement?

I felt a tingle.

Turns out my foot fell asleep

211 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:42:06pm

re: #208 JammieWearingFool

"We're all socialists now," Jammie. Haven't you heard? We're coming after you capitalist pigs!

212 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:42:12pm

I wonder how hard it would be to turn Ronald Reagan into a zombie that does not have alzheimers? Also, if we can achieve such a lofty goal, do you think that there would be any diplomatic repercussions? Would dealing with a zombie president gross anyone out, for instance?

213 bulwrk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:42:21pm

He should have signed the bill with Vaseline.

214 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:42:24pm

re: #209 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'll stick with Jap Anus Relations

I'm taking Anal Bum Covers in the next round

215 sattv4u2  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:42:28pm

re: #199 Nevergiveup

Didn't Italy have that porn star in their Parliament?

Ciccollina ,,,

(ummm, what ,,,, why do you need to know how I knew that off the top of my ,, umm, head ?!?!)

216 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:42:32pm

re: #200 eschew_obfuscation

I'll take Penis Mightier for $200, Alex

What is Cialis?

217 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:42:55pm
218 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:43:02pm

re: #210 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I felt a tingle.

Turns out my foot fell asleep

I just had to pee.

219 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:43:11pm

re: #214 eschew_obfuscation

I'm taking Anal Bum Covers in the next round

I'm betting on Swords and The Rapists.

220 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:43:13pm

re: #197 taxfreekiller

From across the Big Pond, {tfk}!

(Hope Mrs tfk won't mind!)

221 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:43:37pm

re: #199 Nevergiveup

Didn't Italy have that porn star in their Parliament?

Ooooo, oooo, I'm moving to Italy.

222 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:44:02pm

re: #215 sattv4u2

Ciccollina ,,,

(ummm, what ,,,, why do you need to know how I knew that off the top of my ,, umm, head ?!?!)

Impress me and say you know her phone number?

223 sattv4u2  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:44:30pm

re: #222 Nevergiveup

Impress me and say you know her phone number?

I have it on speed dial

224 Unakite  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:44:31pm

re: #106 Oh no...Sand People!
re: #89 gmsc

One way flight from Detroit to DC for a 1 Big 3 CEO in a private jet? $20,000
Round trip flight between Detroit and DC for all 3 big 3 CEOs in 3 different private jets? $120,000

Operating cost of Air Force One per hour while flying (in 2008 dollars)? $60,000/hour
Cost of round trip between DC and Denver? $390,000!

One flick of the pen to sign our children's children's children's future away? Priceless.

For everything else there is mastercar..oh..wait...nothing left.


To Our Children's Children's Children (Moody Blues). I don't think this is what they meant.

225 Gretchen  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:44:45pm

Well some of the new jobs will be all the printing press operators who will have to crank out a load of new dollar bills to pay for this thing. Japan is in no shape to loan and China will have trouble because we aren't buying anything from them. Economic genius Obama who never took a college math class will just print money. Welcome to the Weimar Republic.

226 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:44:47pm

re: #217 Iron Fist

Yeah, I'm not sure that I shouldn't default on my home loan and my car. Maybe even my motorcycle, and hey, what's $20 grand worth of credit card debt do for ya?

This working for a living shit gets old, let me tell you.


I know, I feel the same. Then again, we were raised with a work ethic. This is where the taking the narrow road thing comes in. Watch out for those thorny bushes!

227 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:44:49pm

re: #204 ThinkRight

The USSA
Where we are

Or here

228 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:45:07pm

re: #223 sattv4u2

I have it on speed dial

Sucker.

She's got me on her speed dial

229 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:45:42pm

Considering Harry Reid announced the Iraq surge was a failure immediately after the bill was passed, now that the stimulus bill is signed, how long before we can call this a failure? A day? A week? A month? 6 months? A year?

230 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:46:00pm

re: #208 JammieWearingFool

I was busy practicing capitalism while Bambi was signing the Declaration of Socialism Dependence.

Did anyone pass out from all the excitement?

FTFY!

231 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:46:04pm

re: #229 Kenneth

Considering Harry Reid announced the Iraq surge was a failure immediately after the bill was passed, now that the stimulus bill is signed, how long before we can call this a failure? A day? A week? A month? 6 months? A year?

Last week.

232 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:46:17pm

re: #229 Kenneth

Considering Harry Reid announced the Iraq surge was a failure immediately after the bill was passed, now that the stimulus bill is signed, how long before we can call this a failure? A day? A week? A month? 6 months? A year?

Wait till we are all on the soup line

233 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:46:18pm

Obama's eternal campaigning continues: Recovery.Gov

234 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:46:21pm

re: #228 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sucker.

She's got me on her speed dial


Her titties are fake, ya know. Why would a man want to feel hard, rock like fake titties, when he can feel the real thing?

235 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:46:24pm

re: #228 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sucker.

She's got me on her speed dial

She's looking over my shoulder here, and says she has no idea who either of you are.

236 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:46:26pm

Butterball just laid off 150 from the local plant.

Folks, it is imperative that you go home tonight and eat a turkey.

I'm totally cereal here. Comeon people, not only are dozens of rednecks depending on your consumption, but untold numbers of poor souls down in Mexico depend on those funds sent home.

Turkey. The other, other white meat.

237 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:46:29pm

re: #225 Gretchen

Well some of the new jobs will be all the printing press operators who will have to crank out a load of new dollar bills to pay for this thing. Japan is in no shape to loan and China will have trouble because we aren't buying anything from them. Economic genius Obama who never took a college math class will just print money. Welcome to the Weimar Republic.

On the bright side, after a couple years of double digit inflation my two houses will be worth more than their mortgages again.

238 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:46:33pm

re: #225 Gretchen

Well some of the new jobs will be all the printing press operators who will have to crank out a load of new dollar bills to pay for this thing. Japan is in no shape to loan and China will have trouble because we aren't buying anything from them. Economic genius Obama who never took a college math class will just print money. Welcome to the Weimar Republic.

Stock up on wheelbarrows - might do a roaring trade in them, when the time comes ...

239 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:46:40pm

re: #212 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I wonder how hard it would be to turn Ronald Reagan into a zombie that does not have alzheimers? Also, if we can achieve such a lofty goal, do you think that there would be any diplomatic repercussions? Would dealing with a zombie president gross anyone out, for instance?

We might have trouble feeding him. Brains are too scarce right now. There are certainly no Democrats with them.

240 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:08pm

re: #229 Kenneth

Considering Harry Reid announced the Iraq surge was a failure immediately after the bill was passed, now that the stimulus bill is signed, how long before we can call this a failure? A day? A week? A month? 6 months? A year?

Try November 4, 2008.

241 Unakite  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:11pm

re: #110 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

If I could get my hands on one of those pens, I'd attach it to a voodoo doll.


Stick it in a voodoo doll.

242 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:17pm

re: #234 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Her titties are fake, ya know. Why would a man want to feel hard, rock like fake titties, when he can feel the real thing?

Those blow up dolls don't feel so real.... urh or so I'm told?

243 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:24pm

re: #229 Kenneth

Considering Harry Reid announced the Iraq surge was a failure immediately after the bill was passed, now that the stimulus bill is signed, how long before we can call this a failure? A day? A week? A month? 6 months? A year?

November 5th, 2008

244 pbird  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:28pm

re: #48 midwestgak

Didn't Clinton promise some 50,000 new police officers back in the day which never materialized?

100,000.

245 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:30pm

re: #229 Kenneth

Considering Harry Reid announced the Iraq surge was a failure immediately after the bill was passed, now that the stimulus bill is signed, how long before we can call this a failure? A day? A week? A month? 6 months? A year?

An hour?

246 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:30pm
247 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:36pm

re: #233 Killgore Trout

Obama's eternal campaigning continues: Recovery.Gov


You have got to be kidding me! I wonder how much it costs to maintain that site?

248 sngnsgt  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:48pm

Do as I say, not as I do.

249 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:56pm

re: #229 Kenneth

Considering Harry Reid announced the Iraq surge was a failure immediately after the bill was passed, now that the stimulus bill is signed, how long before we can call this a failure? A day? A week? A month? 6 months? A year?

It could be that the rules of economics have completely stopped working and this package will actually work

Obama has given us the market by which to judge it. Officially, we need to wait to see if there 3.5 Million jobs created in a year. When there aren't, Zero will have nowhere to hide.

250 tfc3rid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:47:59pm

I really hate the Dems and President Barack Hussein Obama...

They now have achieved what they wanted. A dependent lower class who will consistently vote for them. Permanent victimization.

We're done.

I turn my back on him.

251 Idle Drifter  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:48:10pm

re: #236 razorbacker

I'm sorry I prefer the dark meat.

252 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:48:22pm
253 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:48:35pm

re: #229 Kenneth

Considering Harry Reid announced the Iraq surge was a failure immediately after the bill was passed, now that the stimulus bill is signed, how long before we can call this a failure? A day? A week? A month? 6 months? A year?

How quickly do Democrats want to get the rest of their hard left agenda passed? I say 3 months and they'll be demanding another trillion dollar porkfest that will eviscerate what's left of the Treasury. After all, there were hundreds of billions of pork projects left on the cutting room floor.

254 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:48:35pm

re: #234 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Her titties are fake, ya know. Why would a man want to feel hard, rock like fake titties, when he can feel the real thing?

Variety is the spice of life

255 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:48:38pm

re: #229 Kenneth

Considering Harry Reid announced the Iraq surge was a failure immediately after the bill was passed, now that the stimulus bill is signed, how long before we can call this a failure? A day? A week? A month? 6 months? A year?

An economist on WBZ (Boston news radio) was saying we shouldn't expect much from it, and that was this morning.
I think he didn't like it but couldn't come out in blue Boston and say it.

256 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:48:45pm

re: #250 tfc3rid

I really hate the Dems and President Barack Hussein Obama...

They now have achieved what they wanted. A dependent lower class who will consistently vote for them. Permanent victimization.

We're done.

I turn my back on him.

That does make it easier for him to F... You?

257 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:49:13pm

"Napoleon" has just signed the agreement with the other human farmers..........
"Four legs, good! Two legs, O-baaaaaaaaaaaa-ma!"

258 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:49:14pm

re: #242 Nevergiveup

Those blow up dolls don't feel so real.... urh or so I'm told?

As a heterosexual female, I can say I've never felt another woman's breasts. Mine are the one's God gave me and I've had no complaints so far.

259 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:49:22pm
260 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:49:27pm

Was there thunderous applause?

261 DisturbedEma  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:49:30pm

re: #195 newsjunkie_ky

They finally put the bill up on recovery.gov AFTER he signed it not the FIVE days BEFORE the bill is signed like the SOB said he would do.
The youtube video where he says 5 days


Details details. . .///

262 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:49:37pm

re: #247 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

You have got to be kidding me! I wonder how much it costs to maintain that site?

Why do you ask?
Thats unpatriotic!
All you have to do is pay for it!

263 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:49:42pm

re: #250 tfc3rid

I really hate the Dems and President Barack Hussein Obama...

They now have achieved what they wanted. A dependent lower class who will consistently vote for them. Permanent victimization.

We're done.

I turn my back on him.


Never turn your back on an enemy.

264 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:49:48pm

re: #246 buzzsawmonkey

Some of you are larger
And some of you are small
But if you have got dysfunction
You can do nothing at all
Go Cialis
And you'll stand tall

It is just that sort of lyricism that keeps me inspired for the occasional one-off that I post here. Well done buzz.

265 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:49:55pm

re: #247 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Where is Your Money Going?

Those pastel colored balls look so friendly. There's even a section where you can send your Recovery Story to Chairman Obama.

266 tfc3rid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:50:10pm

re: #256 Nevergiveup

LOL Nice...

BTW, I agree on the A-Roid photo op... Jeter wanted no part of being there...

267 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:50:15pm

re: #233 Killgore Trout
I like the timeline milestones graphic. Think they will keep that feature if the stimulus bill doesn't stimulate ?

268 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:50:21pm

Guess I missed the part where he said ' I'll be baaaaack'.

269 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:50:27pm

re: #164 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

And they cost $50,000 a piece.

Now, now. I have some knowledge of the government contract process. If the pens are $50,000 it's probably because some gov. Engineer was told to spec. them for use upside down, in a vacuum and on the surface of Mercury. Plus they had to be bulletproof and have a tracking device and explosive sniffer with an alarm. Oh and the materials used were a mix of obsolete paint and adhesives with "Black Bird" spec titanium as the shell.
Then it was put out for bids with "ready to ship" time of 90 days (when it would take 60 days just to requisition the materials and to machine the shell alone). After they were made then a QAR (Quality Assurance Rep) {we made up other names for them} would be asked to the factory for their inspection asap which would be responded to with a date 15 days from the time of request.
On the day of inspection the 15 pens made, (you usually have to make extra to make up for unforeseen shortfalls/failures at Inspection) were inspected. The QAR would then red flag 4 (on minor technicalities such as incorrect paperwork concerning the purchased materials or a missing inspection report at one of the stages of assembly) and approve 11.
Then you get to wait 60 days for payment (unless of course the paperwork gets mislaid or some part of it is unclear to the clerk checking it over or they just feel like f**ing with you).

270 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:50:30pm

re: #251 Idle Drifter

I'm sorry I prefer the dark meat.

Then you'll have to eat wild turkey.

Wanna buy a good box call?

*Man, I don't know if that post is alcoholic or sexist. Or both*

271 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:50:35pm
272 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:50:44pm

re: #249 DeafDog

It could be that the rules of economics have completely stopped working and this package will actually work

Obama has given us the market by which to judge it. Officially, we need to wait to see if there 3.5 Million jobs created in a year. When there aren't, Zero will have nowhere to hide.

Oh but he has - he will hide behind Pres. Bush, never doubt it!

273 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:51:17pm

re: #223 sattv4u2

I have it on speed dial

Her name isn't Jenny, perchance, and her number 867-5309?

274 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:51:24pm

re: #246 buzzsawmonkey

Some of you are larger
And some of you are small
But if you have got dysfunction
You can do nothing at all
Go Cialis
And you'll stand tall

Looking for 0.9 lead refills here.

275 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:51:29pm

re: #265 Killgore Trout

Where is Your Money Going?

Those pastel colored balls look so friendly. There's even a section where you can send your Recovery Story to Chairman Obama.

$81B for "protecting the vulnerable."

Scary.

276 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:51:38pm

re: #272 yma o hyd

Oh but he has - he will hide behind Pres. Bush, never doubt it!

And if that fails to work he has Biden and Congress to cower behind.

277 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:51:50pm

re: #193 SasquatchOnSteroids

I don't know what they're called, but I'm investing in those coin machines you see at the grocery store.


You mean CHANGE?

278 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:08pm

re: #253 lawhawk

How quickly do Democrats want to get the rest of their hard left agenda passed? I say 3 months and they'll be demanding another trillion dollar porkfest that will eviscerate what's left of the Treasury. After all, there were hundreds of billions of pork projects left on the cutting room floor.

I never sausage blatant disregard for what the US really needs. We got stuffed.

279 pbird  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:22pm

re: #94 Nevergiveup

The economy sucks
My stocks would have to rise to be down
The war on terror is kaput
Israel is going to get sold down the River
My baseball team (NYY) has been roided
My senile mother in law lives with me

So how's your day going?

Don't give up!

280 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:23pm

Need grappa.

281 Unakite  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:31pm

re: #163 Honorary Yooper

There's still about and hour and a half to go.

Down 251.53 and near closing time.

282 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:33pm

re: #249 DeafDog

It could be that the rules of economics have completely stopped working and this package will actually work

Obama has given us the market by which to judge it. Officially, we need to wait to see if there 3.5 Million jobs created in a year. When there aren't, Zero will have nowhere to hide.

Well, since it will take a whole bunch to push all the wheel barrels of cash to market, he may actually succeed.

//////////

283 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:35pm

re: #272 yma o hyd

Oh but he has - he will hide behind Pres. Bush, never doubt it!

Nope. Zero owns the economy now.

The "stimulus" package will actually shrink the economy.

284 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:43pm

re: #246 buzzsawmonkey

They must have gotten it from the Airplane's old song, White Rabbit.
Instead of ' Go Ask Alice ', someone came up with ' See Alice'... when you're feeling small'....

285 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:45pm

re: #275 SasquatchOnSteroids

$81B for "protecting the vulnerable."

Scary.

Considering that thanks to O, we are now all vulnerable, were do I get my check?

286 Gretchen  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:48pm

re: #236 razorbacker

How can we eat turkey when Obama is cramming pork down our throats?

287 Silhouette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:53pm

re: #269 jcw46

I see you've played knivsey spoonsy before.

288 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:52:53pm

re: #275 SasquatchOnSteroids

$81B for "protecting the vulnerable."

Scary.

And by "vunerable" I know he isn't talking about the unborn.

289 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:53:02pm

re: #278 Kosh's Shadow

I never sausage blatant disregard for what the US really needs. We got stuffed.

You're just bacon for a pun war

290 Racer X  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:53:07pm

re: #252 Kenneth


Ilona Staller also known by her stage name Cicciolina,

Yikes!

I just saw a pic.

No thanks.

291 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:53:08pm

re: #274 jorline

That's too thick, 0.5 mm is better IMHO.

292 bulwrk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:53:21pm

re: #193 SasquatchOnSteroids

I don't know what they're called, but I'm investing in those coin machines you see at the grocery store.

Coinstar

293 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:53:45pm

re: #280 Ojoe

Need grappa.


I've already opened bottle.

Looks like I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue.

294 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:53:57pm

re: #285 acwgusa

Considering that thanks to O, we are now all vulnerable, were do I get my check?

Who is Vulnerable is best understood by The One.
Get back in your box.

295 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:53:58pm

re: #276 FurryOldGuyJeans

And if that fails to work he has Biden and Congress to cower behind.

And the rest of the world ...
But Bush will be first choice, after all, the LLL here are still blaming Maggie for the dire straits our economy is in - after nearly 12 years of NuLab neostalinist politics!

296 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:07pm

re: #265 Killgore Trout

Where is Your Money Going?

Those pastel colored balls look so friendly. There's even a section where you can send your Recovery Story to Chairman Obama.

They made a typo at that site. Look at the 53bil "education and training" bubble. That should be "re-education" if I"m not mistaken.

I can watch O right now, not missing much I bet. Probably sounds like a campaign speech.

297 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:12pm

re: #286 Gretchen

How can we eat turkey when Obama is cramming pork down our throats?

Ummm, Darling, I'm not sure that's is where the pork is going.

Don't stand up, whatever you do.

298 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:15pm
299 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:19pm

re: #290 Racer X

Yikes!

I just saw a pic.

No thanks.

She was one of those chicks you know so you could hook up with her friends

300 Wendya  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:21pm

Does this mean I'll finally get the Pony that I was waiting for in Inauguration day?

301 Silhouette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:26pm

"Hello, Coinstar? I've lost my change. Can you send help?"

302 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:48pm

A fiscal misadventure, with trillion dollar dentures!

303 Edouard  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:53pm

Wow! Would you look at that! The first 500,000 jobs just opened up as we speak.

Uncle Sam wants you to operate his $100 bill printing presses. All shifts available: days, swings, & graveyards. Overtime, time and a half, double time for holidays.

Lowering the legal working age to 13 for these positions!

Warm bodies needed urgently!

304 Gretchen  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:55pm

re: #265 Killgore Trout

Where is Your Money Going?

Those pastel colored balls look so friendly. There's even a section where you can send your Recovery Story to Chairman Obama.

"Protecting the Vulnerable" I think that's where they put the pork projects for districts with vulnerable democratic congresspersons.

305 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:56pm

Trojan Unicorn

They sneak in their agents and we get the pointy end.

306 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:54:58pm

Money is just flowing in now.

/

307 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:55:01pm

Market still going woooosh!

308 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:55:09pm

re: #282 unreconstructed rebel

Well, since it will take a whole bunch to push all the wheel barrels of cash to market, he may actually succeed.

//////////


My crystal ball says that the inflation will not come for a year......something to look forward to, which is nice.

309 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:55:11pm

re: #301 Silhouette

"Hello, Coinstar? I've lost my change. Can you send help?"

IOU.

310 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:55:16pm

re: #292 bulwrk

Coinstar

A ripoff, if you ask me. They want at least 8-9% of the total change you count in their machine. Pardon me, but I'll go to my bank instead. They do they same service for free.

311 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:55:19pm

re: #293 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I've already opened bottle.

Looks like I picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue.

Yeah, Lent is gonna be tough this year.

312 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:55:28pm

re: #290 Racer X

Yikes!

I just saw a pic.

No thanks.

I never realized transvestite porn was such a big deal.

313 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:55:34pm
314 Wendya  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:55:48pm

re: #265 Killgore Trout

Where is Your Money Going?

Those pastel colored balls look so friendly. There's even a section where you can send your Recovery Story to Chairman Obama.

People should send thousands of stories of how the recovery bill forced them to close their business and fire their employees.

315 sngnsgt  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:56:06pm

President Hopenchange ain't talking about pocket change.

316 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:56:17pm

re: #295 yma o hyd

And the rest of the world ...
But Bush will be first choice, after all, the LLL here are still blaming Maggie for the dire straits our economy is in - after nearly 12 years of NuLab neostalinist politics!


Well, old chap, don't you know that it takes a long time to fix her mistakes? We're still cleaning up after Ronald Regan. Now hush and eat your beans on toast like a good lad (or lass). :)

317 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:56:31pm

re: #283 DeafDog

Nope. Zero owns the economy now.

The "stimulus" package will actually shrink the economy.

Its for all of you to hold his feet to the fire: yes, he owns it, but he'll deny it.
Same as Gord denies his culpability - after nearly 12 years!

318 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:56:32pm

re: #312 FurryOldGuyJeans

I never realized transvestite porn was such a big deal.

All those French Maid costumes aren't going to wear themselves.

319 Idle Drifter  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:56:47pm

re: #247 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

You have got to be kidding me! I wonder how much it costs to maintain that site?

After following the links to actually read the stimulus bill Internet Explore can't display the damn page and Apple Safari can't conect to the server. Should we expect more of the same BS from the One.

320 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:56:47pm

re: #295 yma o hyd

And the rest of the world ...
But Bush will be first choice, after all, the LLL here are still blaming Maggie for the dire straits our economy is in - after nearly 12 years of NuLab neostalinist politics!

O certainly is doing his best to piss off the rest of the world quicker than GWB ever did.

321 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:56:49pm

re: #267 snowcrash

I like the timeline milestones graphic. Think they will keep that feature if the stimulus bill doesn't stimulate ?

I thought that was kind of slick too. Notice the milestones on the timeline end in July 09 IIRC. They don't have a clue what will happen after that. The whole plan is transparent.

322 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:56:50pm

re: #308 DeafDog

My crystal ball says that the inflation will not come for a year......something to look forward to, which is nice.

I figure this is the year to spend what little I have left. Rather that than give it to Obama.

323 Gretchen  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:56:57pm

re: #298 Iron Fist

Unfortunately Obama thinks money is generated magically by government programs. That's what worked for him and his gang in the past. They have no idea actual work goes into creating goods and services.

324 bulwrk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:56:57pm

re: #310 Honorary Yooper

A ripoff, if you ask me. They want at least 8-9% of the total change


They do have that slot machine feel to them.

325 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:57:01pm

re: #266 tfc3rid

LOL Nice...

BTW, I agree on the A-Roid photo op... Jeter wanted no part of being there...

A-Rod is getting ripped on WFAN

326 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:57:03pm

re: #178 albusteve

Now that is only 2,623 bucks per citizen.

327 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:57:12pm
328 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:57:17pm

Posted this on DT this AM:
President Obama quietly signs Pro-Union Executive Order

February 9, 2009

While everyone is talking about the pork laden stimulus that Obama and many Democrats in Congress are pushing, President Obama very quietly signed a pro-union executive order on Friday. It ordered the use of union labor for federal construction projects. This is one of the most blatant payoffs I have ever seen.

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele has made the following statement:

“President Obama’s executive order will drive up the cost of government at a time when we should be doing everything possible to save taxpayer dollars. Federal contracts should go to the businesses that can offer taxpayers the best value - not just the unions who supported the Democrats’ campaigns last year. Quietly signing executive orders to payback campaign backers undermines Obama promise to change Washington. It is a disappointment for Americans hoping for more transparency and less politics as usual in Washington.”

I would have to agree with everything the chairman said. It is nothing less than a payoff to the unions who supported his campaign with both money and troops. And the fact that it was done with no media coverage shows that he once again is trying to slip one by Americans, which is anything but transparent.

329 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:57:17pm

You know, back in '76 when I was matriculated from where ever that was, I wanted to someday be able to live on $12K a year.

Looks like I'm gonna get my chance.

330 capitalist piglet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:57:40pm

re: #194 Shug

but Michelle leaves restaurants with Doggie Bags

She's thrifty. I mean, if it costs tens of thousands of dollars to get to the restaurant, you gotta cut back somewhere.

331 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:57:49pm

re: #325 Nevergiveup

A-Rod is getting ripped on WFAN

Ooooh really? Do they have streaming?

332 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:57:57pm

re: #311 unreconstructed rebel

Yeah, Lent is gonna be tough this year.


I know. I think that I'm gonna give up Lent for Lent.

333 Wendya  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:58:06pm

re: #310 Honorary Yooper

A ripoff, if you ask me. They want at least 8-9% of the total change you count in their machine. Pardon me, but I'll go to my bank instead. They do they same service for free.

I convert mine into gift certificates for Amazon.com. There's no charge for that and since I order frequently, they come in handy.

334 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:58:06pm

U.S. National Debt Clock

When I clicked on it just now, I got this message:

Service Temporarily Unavailable

The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
_____________________________________________
Apache/1.3.41 Server at brillig.com Port 80

This says it all, doesn't it?

335 tfc3rid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:58:15pm

re: #325 Nevergiveup

A-Rod is getting ripped on WFAN

Wow... I am surprised. Mike ripping A-Rod? Shocked.

Mad Dog is ripping him also over on Satellite...

336 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:58:35pm

re: #331 loppyd

Ooooh really? Do they have streaming?

It's broadcast on the YES network in the afternoon.

337 Gray Skies  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:58:46pm

re: #137 Dasher

Laura Hollis wrote a column along these lines. It is on [Link: www.townhall.com...] today and worth the read. She writes, "How better ... to obtain the dictatorial power you crave than to ensure that an economic crisis becomes a catastrophe?"

338 tfc3rid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:58:51pm

re: #328 newsjunkie_ky

Are you serious? This is egregious...

339 sngnsgt  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:58:53pm

re: #328 newsjunkie_ky

Democrat politics as usual.

340 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:59:19pm

re: #335 tfc3rid

Wow... I am surprised. Mike ripping A-Rod? Shocked.

Mad Dog is ripping him also over on Satellite...

Mike always rips him. Is Mad Dog still getting payed over there?

341 tfc3rid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:59:22pm

re: #331 loppyd

Ooooh really? Do they have streaming?

Yeah, on their website. My office blocks FAN so I can't listen online...

342 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:59:38pm

re: #326 Ojoe

A small town of 500 citizens is in hock for 1,311,000 bucks.

343 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:59:38pm

re: #284 tradewind

They must have gotten it from the Airplane's old song, White Rabbit.
Instead of ' Go Ask Alice ', someone came up with ' See Alice'... when you're feeling small'....

One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small

Steve Martin had a routine about "getting small".

344 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:59:46pm

re: #324 bulwrk

A ripoff, if you ask me. They want at least 8-9% of the total change


They do have that slot machine feel to them.

If some of the plebs are stupid enough to use my future machines instead of going to the bank, then I'm not going to complain. Most of em prolly voted for Teh One anyway.

345 tfc3rid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:59:51pm

re: #340 Nevergiveup

Mike always rips him. Is Mad Dog still getting payed over there?

Doggie praised Karmazin for 'getting the Liberty Media deal done to save Sirius'

346 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:59:56pm

Via Michelle Malkin via KFOX14

Ramos and Compean are free


EL PASO, Texas -- KFOX TV was the first to report earlier this morning that former border patrol agents Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos were released from federal prison.

Ramos, who has spent the last two years in the Phoenix Federal Prison, accompanied his wife and attorney through Sky Harbor International Airport in Phoenix. Ramos was released from the prison around 8 a.m.

347 Bloodnok  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 12:59:57pm

re: #287 Silhouette

I see you've played knivsey spoonsy before.

Upding for old Simpsons reference (any references past 2000 and all bets are off).

348 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:00:17pm

re: #316 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Well, old chap, don't you know that it takes a long time to fix her mistakes? We're still cleaning up after Ronald Regan. Now hush and eat your beans on toast like a good lad (or lass). :)

Aww - its a long time since someone called me 'lass' :-))

Yeah - thats exactly it: Ronald Reagan and Maggie Thatcher are responsible for everything which went wrong in the last six months ...!

349 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:00:38pm

re: #346 loppyd

Via Michelle Malkin via KFOX14

Ramos and Compean are free

Some good news

350 picaro  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:00:40pm

re: #323 Gretchen

If Obama believes that scads of money can just be printed without much ill effect, we will end up like Germany's Weimar Republic. And we all know who came into power thereafter.

351 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:00:41pm

re: #331 loppyd

How many of the fans ripping ARod are Met fans who had hoped he would join their team instead of the Yanks? Probably quite a few.

ARod deserves all the scorn and derision, because he once again refuses to take responsibility for his own failures and attempts to blame others for his taking roids.

Right.

Of course this is now the national pattern. If you make mistakes, you don't apologize; you blame others. In Congress and politics in general, Blame Bush trumps all logic and reasoning. It's the lack of responsibility that is most troubling about the situation (both in baseball and in politics), so it is not without a sense of irony that Congress is busy investigating baseball and steroids.

352 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:00:49pm

re: #341 tfc3rid

Yeah, on their website. My office blocks FAN so I can't listen online...

Another perk of working for my brother - nothing is banned!

353 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:01:04pm

re: #328 newsjunkie_ky

Just wait until we get slapped with all the hidden mandates in the pork-pac.

354 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:01:24pm

re: #338 tfc3rid

Are you serious? This is egregious...


Here is the link.

355 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:01:31pm

re: #37 Racer X

So it was extremely urgent to get a vote on Friday - even though lawmakers had not even read the bill - so it could sit for a few days to allow Obama his glory in a signing ceremony today?

This shit stinks.

Let's put it all together-

THE FRIDAY THE 13TH BILL - FOUNDING DOCUMENT OF THE NEW STEAL!

-S-

356 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:01:31pm

re: #278 Kosh's Shadow

I never sausage blatant disregard for what the US really needs. We got stuffed.

That's just offal.

357 Unakite  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:01:32pm

Dow -296.53.

358 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:01:35pm

re: #344 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

If some of the plebs are stupid enough to use my future machines instead of going to the bank, then I'm not going to complain. Most of em prolly voted for Teh One anyway.

Ka-ching.

359 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:01:59pm

re: #320 FurryOldGuyJeans

O certainly is doing his best to piss off the rest of the world quicker than GWB ever did.

But hey, he's doing it sooo nicely, so eloquently, the World must surely love him for that!
Mustn't they?

360 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:02:00pm

re: #303 Edouard

Wow! Would you look at that! The first 500,000 jobs just opened up as we speak.

Uncle Sam wants you to operate his $100 bill printing presses. All shifts available: days, swings, & graveyards. Overtime, time and a half, double time for holidays.

Lowering the legal working age to 13 for these positions!

Warm bodies needed urgently!

Will they let you take samples?
All you can carry in your hands. No wheelbarrows.

361 picaro  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:02:00pm

re: #357 Unakite

And accelerating...

362 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:02:15pm
363 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:02:23pm

re: #349 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Some good news

Hard to come by these days...

364 Idle Drifter  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:02:29pm

re: #270 razorbacker

Then you'll have to eat wild turkey.

Wanna buy a good box call?

*Man, I don't know if that post is alcoholic or sexist. Or both*

Bwahahahahahahaha! I've been thinking about going after wild turkey for some time. Me and brother once spent an hour in a Gander Mountain trying out all the different calls they had out for display. The box call was fairly easy to use the stick and shale stone call took a little time to get the hang off it.

365 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:02:34pm

re: #348 yma o hyd

Aww - its a long time since someone called me 'lass' :-))

Yeah - thats exactly it: Ronald Reagan and Maggie Thatcher are responsible for everything which went wrong in the last six months ...!

I'm an Anglophile...if ya'll can get the country free from the encroaching Sharia, I'm planning on moving there for a year or two when I retire...if I can retire. Meanwhile, have a pint on me!

366 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:02:45pm

re: #318 CyanSnowHawk

All those French Maid costumes aren't going to wear themselves.

I wish my last girlfriend had said that. But no, it was naked this, naked that, and now she's doing time in Dubai.

367 Edouard  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:02:57pm

$1000/oz gold coming soon.

Not today. But that milestone level is now in view as the price just jumped to $970. Silver and platinum also pushing up hard.

368 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:03:37pm

re: #358 SasquatchOnSteroids

Ka-ching.


I'm proud to be a capitolist pig.

369 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:03:42pm

re: #355 Dr. Shalit

"The New Steal," heh.

370 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:03:47pm
371 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:04:10pm

re: #351 lawhawk

If the Met fans want him, they can have him. I'd trade him heads up for Wright.

372 picaro  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:04:10pm

re: #367 Edouard

$1000/oz gold coming soon.

Not today. But that milestone level is now in view as the price just jumped to $970. Silver and platinum also pushing up hard.

Dang! 1979-80 revisited. Obama really is J.C. (not Jesus Christ)

373 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:04:11pm

re: #334 gmsc

U.S. National Debt Clock

When I clicked on it just now, I got this message:


This says it all, doesn't it?

The plan is to attach fan blades to the national debt clock to combat global warming.

374 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:04:14pm

re: #322 unreconstructed rebel

I figure this is the year to spend what little I have left. Rather that than give it to Obama.

True. The GWB tax cuts will expire in 2010.

It is highly unlikely that private capital will want to increase their commitment to the US economy in the face of increasing taxes. The US economy is in for a bumpy ride.

Meanwhile, China and Asia are continuing to grow. This will encourage commodity price increases, and China will want more interest for all that cash they are lending us. No growth for 2009 and then some nice inflation in 2010.

Sorry for the doom and gloom, but that's the way I see it.

375 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:04:16pm

re: #370 Kenneth

The sun still shines though.

376 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:04:28pm

re: #350 picaro

If Obama believes that scads of money can just be printed without much ill effect, we will end up like Germany's Weimar Republic. And we all know who came into power thereafter.

You there. Now just simma down. Think it through. Billions of dollars, if not trillions, have disappeared from home values and IRAs in just the past two years. Gone.

So you see, don't you, that printing more money can't be inflationary. Can't. They're just replaceing all those other greenbacks that have gone missing.

I don't see what possibly could go wrong, here.

377 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:04:34pm

re: #366 godfrey

I wish my last girlfriend had said that. But no, it was naked this, naked that, and now she's doing time in Dubai.

Poor baby!

378 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:04:36pm

re: #307 acwgusa

Market still going woooosh!

it's gonna be doing that for awhile.....

right now we're just circling the drain, but wait until the suction grabs us.

379 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:04:57pm
380 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:04:57pm

re: #359 yma o hyd

But hey, he's doing it sooo nicely, so eloquently, the World must surely love him for that!
Mustn't they?

If O, with all this off-teleprompter stuttering, is eloquent, give me inarticulate GWB any day.

381 Peacekeeper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:05:11pm
382 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:05:32pm

re: #351 lawhawk

Not to be a braggart, but I called his juice use way back.

He's using the "my cousin told me it would give me an energy boost" defense.

This country is producing some pathetic creatures.

383 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:05:48pm

re: #356 lawhawk

That's just offal.

you should link to this post.

384 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:05:54pm

re: #323 Gretchen

Unfortunately Obama thinks money is generated magically by government programs. That's what worked for him and his gang in the past. They have no idea actual work goes into creating goods and services.

He's a flipp'n community organizer, for pete's sake. Creating wealth means securing handouts.

385 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:06:13pm

re: #307 acwgusa

Discovery of a junior Madoff in Houston as we speak (Stanford) isn't helping.

386 Buster Bunny  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:06:25pm

re: #348 yma o hyd

Aww - its a long time since someone called me 'lass' :-))

Yeah - thats exactly it: Ronald Reagan and Maggie Thatcher are responsible for everything which went wrong in the last six months ...!

Cmon .. you think a Dead President and a senile Ex Prime Minister with Alzheimers are threats to the world at the moment?

If so .. I'd put Krusty the Clown high on your hit list, he's Jewish .. he's fake .. and he sells bad burgers.

387 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:06:37pm

re: #382 loppyd

Not to be a braggart, but I called his juice use way back.

He's using the "my cousin told me it would give me an energy boost" defense.

This country is producing some pathetic creatures.

It's being called the "cousin Vinny" defense here in NY.

388 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:06:43pm

IMO Cavuto (Fox money guy) has a the best news/financial news show.

389 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:06:47pm

re: #376 razorbacker

Ummm? Did you really mean to leave off the sarc tag?

390 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:06:54pm

Nevada state legislators confirmed today that the state of Nevada would not be sending out income tax refunds.

They stated that this would largely be a permanent condition, due largely to the total lack of a Nevada state income tax in the first place.

;)

391 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:06:55pm

re: #370 Kenneth

I thought the market would bottom at 8300. Silly me.

392 Idle Drifter  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:07:02pm

re: #364 Idle Drifter

Me and my brother PIMF

My brother and I GIMF*

*Grammar is my friend*

393 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:07:04pm

re: #385 tradewind

Discovery of a junior Madoff in Houston as we speak (Stanford) isn't helping.


What Jr. Madoff. I'm home with sick kids and havent seen the news!

394 Unakite  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:07:21pm

re: #270 razorbacker

Then you'll have to eat wild turkey.

Wanna buy a good box call?

*Man, I don't know if that post is alcoholic or sexist. Or both*


I thought you drank Wild Turkey?

395 tfc3rid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:07:48pm

re: #351 lawhawk

Guilty as charged, I wanted him back in 2001... Now I rip him, of course because of the steroids but also because he's a Yank...

I like how he blames his nameless cousin in the Domincan Republic...

396 picaro  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:08:09pm

re: #394 Unakite

I thought you drank Wild Turkey?

Depends on whether you live in Alaska or not!

397 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:08:10pm

re: #321 turn

I thought that was kind of slick too. Notice the millestones on the timeline end in July 09 IIRC. They don't have a clue what will happen after that. The whole plan is transparent.

FTFY!

398 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:08:23pm

re: #393 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

What Jr. Madoff. I'm home with sick kids and havent seen the news!



Texas Financier Charged With 'Massive' Fraud

399 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:08:25pm

lol,heap big bull artist Donald Trump is bankrupt again.

400 Sgt.Slappy  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:08:27pm

re: #58 unreconstructed rebel

So is ammunition - the other precious metal. All types and calibers. IMHO an excellent investment even for those not inclined to bear the arms that they feed. In some cases (pardon the pun) the value has doubled or tripled over the last years. Kept dry and cool, it will store for decades. ...and when you're ready to sell, I guarantee you'll find a hungry market.

401 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:08:32pm

re: #387 Nevergiveup

It's being called the "cousin Vinny" defense here in NY.

AHHHHHHHH ROFL!

402 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:08:34pm

re: #365 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'm an Anglophile...if ya'll can get the country free from the encroaching Sharia, I'm planning on moving there for a year or two when I retire...if I can retire. Meanwhile, have a pint on me!

Cheers!
Looks like we'll be having our Tory government in place next year at the latest, if not muche arlier. And the common sense of the Brits will finally be heard and acted upon - sharia, forget it!
But - win the elections first.

403 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:08:36pm

re: #389 unreconstructed rebel

Ummm? Did you really mean to leave off the sarc tag?

Shhhhhh. I'm working on Sec. of Treasury. I bet there's gonna be an opening shortly.

Paid my taxes and everything.

Far as they can tell, that is.

404 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:08:46pm

re: #395 tfc3rid

Guilty as charged, I wanted him back in 2001... Now I rip him, of course because of the steroids but also because he's a Yank...

I like how he blames his nameless cousin in the Domincan Republic...

Would you trade A-Rod for Wright straight up?

405 tfc3rid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:09:04pm

re: #371 Nevergiveup

If the Met fans want him, they can have him. I'd trade him heads up for Wright.

Nevaaaaaaaaaaaah

They both a penchant for being un-clutch.

406 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:09:07pm

re: #398 jorline


Texas Financier Charged With 'Massive' Fraud

Thanks! I work in the financial advisory industry.

407 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:09:13pm

10,000 More Troops Headed to Afganistan

Barack Obama.

Zionist.
Crusader.
Neo-Con.
Occupier.
Imperialist.
War Criminal.
Clenched Fist.

408 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:09:23pm

re: #399 vagabond trader

lol,heap big bull artist Donald Trump is bankrupt again.

How many times does this make?

/s

409 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:09:29pm

re: #390 gmsc

Why you! Ohhhh a wiiise guy ey?

410 bulwrk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:09:31pm

re: #356 lawhawk

That's just offal.

He brat it all on himself.

411 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:09:35pm

re: #389 unreconstructed rebel

Ummm? Did you really mean to leave off the sarc tag?

maybe he was out of white smoke?

412 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:10:13pm

re: #394 Unakite

I thought you drank Wild Turkey?

Wild Turkey is for drinking. Wild turkey is for eating.

It's a capital difference.

413 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:10:18pm

re: #407 Ben Hur

10,000 More Troops Headed to Afganistan

Barack Obama.

Zionist.
Crusader.
Neo-Con.
Occupier.
Imperialist.
War Criminal.
Clenched Fist.


Islamaphobe.

414 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:10:25pm

re: #408 Dustyvet

Let's see, what number wife is he married to? (for the time being)

415 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:10:27pm

re: #407 Ben Hur

10,000 More Troops Headed to Afganistan

Barack Obama.

Zionist.
Crusader.
Neo-Con.
Occupier.
Imperialist.
War Criminal.
Clenched Fist.

But that's the "good war" so it's ok.

/

416 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:10:33pm

re: #391 godfrey

I thought the market would bottom at 8300. Silly me.

maybe you got the 300 part right?

417 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:10:37pm

re: #406 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Thanks! I work in the financial advisory industry.

Do me a favor, please advise these assholes to knock it off.

418 Suzette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:10:43pm

re: #157 bulwrk

His Pen is big.

And powerful

Oooooh that reminds me of this:

419 tfc3rid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:10:49pm

re: #388 snowcrash

IMO Cavuto (Fox money guy) has a the best news/financial news show.

Cavuto is excellent.

420 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:10:52pm

re: #397 redc1c4

Missed it, what post #

421 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:11:01pm

re: #402 yma o hyd

Cheers!
Looks like we'll be having our Tory government in place next year at the latest, if not muche arlier. And the common sense of the Brits will finally be heard and acted upon - sharia, forget it!
But - win the elections first.

Here's hoping!

422 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:11:03pm

re: #403 razorbacker

Shhhhhh. I'm working on Sec. of Treasury. I bet there's gonna be an opening shortly.

Paid my taxes and everything.

Far as they can tell, that is.

No, no. You qualify only if you don't pay taxes. ;-)

423 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:11:04pm

re: #411 redc1c4

maybe he was out of white smoke?

White smoke is on back order...umm, we got red parachute flairs...

424 Gretchen  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:11:23pm

re: #354 newsjunkie_ky

Any lawyers out there? Is it legal to insist a government contract uses unionized workers? Isn't that discriminatory against non-union workers? Seems like this could end up in the courts, unless Obama signs an order doing away with the courts (or it's on page 987 of the Porkulous Bill).

425 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:11:30pm

re: #380 FurryOldGuyJeans

If O, with all this off-teleprompter stuttering, is eloquent, give me inarticulate GWB any day.

Absolutely - but you know what the MFM are like, the international ones as well as the national ones. And when they say PB0 is silver-tongued and eloquent ...

426 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:11:40pm

re: #406 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


re: #398 jorline


Texas Financier Charged With 'Massive' Fraud

Thanks! I work in the financial advisory industry.

Then did you see the massive financial fraud today in Denver?

427 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:11:40pm

re: #414 vagabond trader

Let's see, what number wife is he married to? (for the time being)

I've quit counting those as well...:)

428 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:12:26pm

re: #393 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

429 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:12:36pm

NSFW language....
Christian Bale pissed off at Peter Griffin on the set of Terminator Salvation

430 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:12:48pm

re: #386 Buster Bunny

Cmon .. you think a Dead President and a senile Ex Prime Minister with Alzheimers are threats to the world at the moment?

If so .. I'd put Krusty the Clown high on your hit list, he's Jewish .. he's fake .. and he sells bad burgers.

Heh - its not me who thinks that - its the moonbats on both sides of the Big Pond!

431 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:13:00pm

re: #417 jorline

Do me a favor, please advise these assholes to knock it off.


Believe me I would if I could. I work with honest people who respect the fact that we have a fiduciary responsibility...the Stanford Group et al was a pretty big dog in this town.

432 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:13:00pm

re: #425 yma o hyd

Absolutely - but you know what the MFM are like, the international ones as well as the national ones. And when they say PB0 is silver-tongued and eloquent ...

...they are lying.

Why is that so hard to grasp? ;)

433 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:13:12pm
434 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:13:14pm

re: #427 Dustyvet

My guess is that there's a distinct correlation between the two.No hot young model wants to be married to an old has been.

435 Guanxi88  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:13:22pm

re: #391 godfrey

I thought the market would bottom at 8300. Silly me.

Decimal point; I think the problem was you forgot the decimal point.

436 Fighton03  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:13:40pm

and the market skids to close losing 300 points. Hopenchange's speech did wonders though, killing a mild rally in the pm. Hopefully investors will have gotten over their swooning by tomorrow and we'll see some deal making.

437 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:13:42pm

re: #426 Kenneth

Then did you see the massive financial fraud today in Denver?

ding...

438 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:14:03pm

Breaking new on WSJ

* The Dow industrials declined 300 points, or 3.8%. Nasdaq fell 4%.

Do you feel stimulated yet?

* Goldman Sachs's Jon Winkelried, a co-president at the firm, is retiring.

Bailout before the bailout shreds his golden parachute?

439 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:14:12pm

re: #407 Ben Hur
Bet he will rethink opening media coverage of the returning fallen soldiers to Dover.

440 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:14:19pm

re: #424 Gretchen

Any lawyers out there? Is it legal to insist a government contract uses unionized workers? Isn't that discriminatory against non-union workers? Seems like this could end up in the courts, unless Obama signs an order doing away with the courts (or it's on page 987 of the Porkulous Bill).

Gretchen, think of this. Who, exactly, is it that dominates unionized construction workers? White males.

Heads will implode once that little factoid floats to the top of the punch bowl.

441 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:14:19pm

re: #434 vagabond trader

My guess is that there's a distinct correlation between the two.No hot young model wants to be married to an old has been.

Well that explains why I live alone with a mangie moggie...:)

442 jaunte  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:14:21pm

re: #429 Killgore Trout

'Roid rage. It's not just for sports any more.

443 SusanL  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:14:48pm

re: #353 vagabond trader

This started this morning. I work in Employee Benefits.

Porkulus requires that employers pay 65% of the COBRA premium for any employees who are laid off due to "reduction in force, due to the economy".

COBRA for those of you who don't know is a federal law that requires employers (over a certain size) to allow former employees (or dependents in certain circumstances) to continue on the employer health plan after they have terminated employment. This USED to be at the employee's expense.

To offset the cost? The employers are to take a credit against their federal tax deposits (this is the employees money) and the employer portion of the FICA tax (social security).

Think about this folks... This is going to be a freaking nightmare.


S

444 thefallingman  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:14:49pm

I think we have just gone plaid...

445 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:14:54pm

re: #429 Killgore Trout

NSFW language....
Christian Bale pissed off at Peter Griffin on the set of Terminator Salvation


Saw it. (It's been out for a while.)

And I 100% support Bale, and from I understand, so did everyone else on the set.

Not that it's important.

446 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:14:56pm

re: #407 Ben Hur

10,000 More Troops Headed to Afghanistan

Barack Obama.

Zionist.
Crusader.
Neo-Con.
Occupier.
Imperialist.
War Criminal.
Clenched Fist.

Will they say this about his approval of the missile strikes in Pakistan too?

447 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:15:03pm

re: #421 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Here's hoping!

Why is Europe becoming more conservative just at the time when we're becoming more fascist?

448 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:15:03pm

re: #420 turn

Missed it, what post #

your #321: i changed milestones to millstones: most appropriate, no?

449 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:15:06pm

re: #429 Killgore Trout

NSFW language....
Christian Bale pissed off at Peter Griffin on the set of Terminator Salvation

[Video]

If he really wants to help his career, he should be shouting at a Republican.

450 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:15:15pm

re: #399 vagabond trader

lol,heap big bull artist Donald Trump is bankrupt again.

Wow!
I know of at least one man in scotland who'll be happy to hear that - this means Trump won't be able to build a 'resort with golf course' on a lovely stretch of Scottish sand dunes ...

451 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:15:26pm

The Audacity of Irony
“Hope and change” meet reality. The ironies bring us back to the unlamented days of Jimmy Carter.

By Victor Davis Hanson

But unlike the Bush administration, which took 15 months to prepare the country for a real war in Iraq, the Obama administration gave the public only a few hours to read the final draft of the legislation before it was made into law. Where the polarizing partisan George Bush managed to obtain the vote of majorities in both parties to remove Saddam Hussein, the healing bipartisan Barack Obama lacked the support of even a single Republican in the House and won over a mere three Republicans in the Senate.

RTWT!

452 Ron Shaw  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:15:26pm

Well, at least this Democrat-induced financial crisis wasn't wasted by the very same Democrats, and reportedly their approval rating has gone up this week, sheeeesh.

...and evidently M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E isn't the only filthy rich mouse worth tens of millions of our hard earned dollars in America...thank you, Nancy Stealosi!

453 opnion  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:15:29pm

re: #381 Peacekeeper

Planet of the Apes

THank's for posting that. I was wondering how a chimp could be 200lbs. until I saw his picture. Well fed pet!

454 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:15:55pm

re: #440 razorbacker

Heads will implode once that little factoid floats to the top of the punch bowl.

I've already got my goggles on.

455 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:15:59pm

re: #427 Dustyvet

I've quit counting those as well...:)

How are you feeling?

456 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:16:17pm

re: #443 SusanL

This started this morning. I work in Employee Benefits.

Porkulus requires that employers pay 65% of the COBRA premium for any employees who are laid off due to "reduction in force, due to the economy".

COBRA for those of you who don't know is a federal law that requires employers (over a certain size) to allow former employees (or dependents in certain circumstances) to continue on the employer health plan after they have terminated employment. This USED to be at the employee's expense.

To offset the cost? The employers are to take a credit against their federal tax deposits (this is the employees money) and the employer portion of the FICA tax (social security).

Think about this folks... This is going to be a freaking nightmare.


S


I wonder how long it will be before employers stop offering health care?

457 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:16:27pm

re: #423 Dustyvet

White smoke is on back order...umm, we got red parachute flairs...

just what we need: a supply of communist interior decorators....

i started a major brush fire once with a parachute flare..... %-)

458 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:16:31pm

re: #438 CyanSnowHawk

Breaking new on WSJ

* The Dow industrials declined 300 points, or 3.8%. Nasdaq fell 4%.

Do you feel stimulated yet?

* Goldman Sachs's Jon Winkelried, a co-president at the firm, is retiring.

Bailout before the bailout shreds his golden parachute?

But on the upside, I picked up a couple hundred shares of Conoco/Phillips just before the dividend is paid.

Y'all be sure and drive to whereever you eat that turkey, 'kay?

459 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:16:33pm

re: #443 SusanL

Gad! I do not want to hear anyone say that this Alinskyite does not know what damage he is doing.Naive my arse.

460 Buster Bunny  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:17:00pm

re: #430 yma o hyd

Heh - its not me who thinks that - its the moonbats on both sides of the Big Pond!

Bah .. I so hate moonbats.

461 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:17:02pm

re: #444 thefallingman

I think we have just gone plaid...

462 Peacekeeper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:17:07pm
At the time of the 2003 incident, police said the Herolds told them the chimpanzee was toilet trained, dressed himself, took his own bath, ate at the table and drank wine from a stemmed glass. He also brushed his teeth using a Water Pik, logged onto the computer to look at pictures, and watched television using the remote control, police said.

I only wonder he didn't have his own blog.

463 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:17:22pm

re: #424 Gretchen

That's a good question, something has to be done about this "less for more" decision.

464 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:17:50pm

re: #445 Ben Hur

Saw it. (It's been out for a while.)

And I 100% support Bale, and from I understand, so did everyone else on the set.

Not that it's important.

probably makes sense to support the leading actor...job security and all that

465 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:17:53pm

More,

Bush was pilloried for supposedly hyping al-Qaeda in order to create a security state. Obama trumped that by proclaiming that the present recession is a catastrophe, a disaster, a Great Depression. He ceased his scare-mongering only when he had exhausted the vocabulary of doom. “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste,” bragged Rahm Emanuel, reminding us that the envisioned Obama socialism could take root only if a climate of fear was created.

466 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:18:04pm

re: #455 loppyd

How are you feeling?

Much better thank you...:) Tiger is doing well also...:)

467 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:18:06pm

re: #448 redc1c4

your #321: i changed milestones to millstones: most appropriate, no?

Ha! Yes, yes

468 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:18:27pm

re: #172 taxfreekiller

I like how you think.

469 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:18:29pm

re: #441 Dustyvet

Awww, maybe you need to adjust your expectations. My kitty is my best bud, a true cat-dog.

470 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:18:35pm

re: #445 Ben Hur

Saw it. (It's been out for a while.)

And I 100% support Bale, and from I understand, so did everyone else on the set.

Not that it's important.

Not the guy that took the video.

471 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:18:45pm

re: #446 turn

Will they say this about his approval of the missile strikes in Pakistan too?


I'd like for someone to ask Him about when he received authorization from Congress, Nato, the UN, etc to do it.

472 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:18:47pm

re: #466 Dustyvet

Much better thank you...:) Tiger is doing well also...:)

Excellent!

Um, who is Tiger?

473 Unakite  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:19:03pm

re: #412 razorbacker

Wild Turkey is for drinking. Wild turkey is for eating.

It's a capital difference.

How about drinking Wild Turkey while eating wild turkey?

474 Guanxi88  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:19:10pm

re: #459 vagabond trader

Naive my arse.

Naive Melody, to help everyone chill out:

475 Gretchen  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:19:13pm

re: #440 razorbacker

Didn't Robert Reich recently complain that all the construction jobs would be given to "skilled white males". In Democrat world bridges should be built by the unskilled as long as they were minorities. Reminds me of the Cultural Revolution.

476 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:19:33pm
477 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:19:44pm

And there go 10,000 CA state workers, and all construction projects here in Brokefornia.

478 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:19:45pm

re: #447 eschew_obfuscation

Why is Europe becoming more conservative just at the time when we're becoming more fascist?

Perhaps because we've had (at least here in the UK) nearly twelve years of that crap? And are seeing the results, day by day?
But hey - the young'uns didn't believe us when we said that Labour in any form would bring the country to its knees ...

479 Silhouette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:19:48pm

re: #473 Unakite

How about drinking Wild Turkey while eating wild turkey?

While watching a Virginia Tech game in Istanbul.

480 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:19:49pm

re: #462 Peacekeeper

I only wonder he didn't have his own blog.

How do you know he didn't?

481 Guanxi88  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:19:53pm

re: #474 Guanxi88

Naive Melody, to help everyone chill out:


[Video]

Perhaps this should become Barry's theme song?

482 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:19:57pm

re: #462 Peacekeeper

I only wonder he didn't have his own blog.

Shoot, if'n he can pay rent I've got a spare room. Sounds like he's better mannered than some folks I know.

483 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:06pm

re: #465 Kenneth

Obama trumped that by proclaiming that the present recession is a catastrophe, a disaster, a Great Depression.

Then he promptly went off to read books to children, vacation at Camp David, and shopping with Michell.

484 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:09pm

re: #424 Gretchen

States can vote individually on whether or not to mandate union membership for public contracts. Trent Lott and some others long ago proposed a national right to work act...... under BHO, good luck with that.
Forced unionism is anti-growth, and an anti-stimulant to the economic recovery...
[Link: www.nilrr.org...]

485 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:18pm

re: #473 Unakite

How about drinking Wild Turkey while eating wild turkey?

I'll just take the Wild Turkey. Gonna need a lot of it over the next 4 years.

486 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:26pm

re: #443 SusanL

My experience has been that it's much cheaper to get your own health insurance than using COBRA. That might be different if you have pre-existing conditions.

Will companies layoff a few more employees than they planned to help cover the cost of COBRA?

487 bulwrk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:27pm

re: #462 Peacekeeper


At the time of the 2003 incident, police said the Herolds told them the chimpanzee was toilet trained, dressed himself, took his own bath, ate at the table and drank wine from a stemmed glass. He also brushed his teeth using a Water Pik, logged onto the computer to look at pictures, and watched television using the remote control, police said.


ACORN registered him as a democrat in 2008

488 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:28pm

Russia's stock market closed -9.40 today.

I wonder if they remember how to boil potatoes? We may not be far behind.

489 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:32pm

This pile of krap is truly voodoo economics. Very scary stuff, and the supporters are like stepford robots.

490 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:41pm

Whoops, 20,000 employees.

491 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:44pm

re: #470 CyanSnowHawk

Not the guy that took the video.


Oh.

I thought he posted just the audio.

Will go back and click on it.

492 sandspur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:51pm

re: #249 DeafDog

It could be that the rules of economics have completely stopped working and this package will actually work

Obama has given us the market by which to judge it. Officially, we need to wait to see if there 3.5 Million jobs created in a year. When there aren't, Zero will have nowhere to hide.

That jobs forecast has already been revised down to about 2.5 mil

493 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:20:56pm

re: #482 razorbacker

Shoot, if'n he can pay rent I've got a spare room. Sounds like he's better mannered than some folks I know.

Well he probably stinks some by now since they killed him but....

494 capitalist piglet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:21:07pm

re: #456 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I wonder how long it will be before employers stop offering health care?

I wonder too. I don't know much about this (as I'm self-employed and buy my own), but it seems as if they're trying to make it impossible for businesses to afford to offer health care benefits.

Hmmmm. Why would they do that?

495 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:21:29pm

re: #493 Nevergiveup

Well he probably stinks some by now since they killed him but....

rofl

496 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:21:33pm

Barack 0bama elected on Nov. 4th, 2008. Dow closed at: 9,625.28
Barack 0bama signs Friday the 13th Spending Bill on February 17th, 2008. Dow closed at: 7,552.60

Congratulations, Mr. 0bama. In only 83 days after you were elected, the DJIA has dropped 2072.68 points!

497 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:21:43pm

re: #492 sandspur

That jobs forecast has already been revised down to about 2.5 mil

What? A million jobs have been thrown under the bus?

498 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:21:44pm

re: #186 doppelganglander

That is idiotic. It reminds of of Spain. When I lived there in the late '80s, there was a drought (or maybe it's always like that, who knows). Instead of politely asking people not to use too much water, as we do here, they shut off the water supply completely from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. every day. My building had a tank on the roof that supplied enough water for basics, but I had friends who didn't. Not to be too graphic, but what are you supposed to do if you have a sick infant and no water?

Interseting.
I'd fill the tub or a bunch of buckets for the day.....every day.
Israel has such a water shortage that they do something we hadn't thought of:
they open the bathroom sink drain so they can catch water from toothbrushing and hand washing, then pour that water into the toilet tank.

499 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:21:54pm

re: #488 jorline

Russia's stock market closed -9.40 today.

I wonder if they remember how to boil potatoes? We may not be far behind.

give me you potatoes

500 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:22:14pm

re: #494 capitalist piglet

I wonder too. I don't know much about this (as I'm self-employed and buy my own), but it seems as if they're trying to make it impossible for businesses to afford to offer health care benefits.

Hmmmm. Why would they do that?


Hummmmm. I don't know. Could it be....NATIONAL HEALTH CARE?
/church lady

501 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:22:14pm

re: #478 yma o hyd

Perhaps because we've had (at least here in the UK) nearly twelve years of that crap? And are seeing the results, day by day?
But hey - the young'uns didn't believe us when we said that Labour in any form would bring the country to its knees ...

Yeah, I don't envy you for that.... we could (may yet) be in worse shape.

502 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:22:14pm

re: #473 Unakite

How about drinking Wild Turkey while eating wild turkey?

What drink would you pair with Spam?

503 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:22:53pm

re: #445 Ben Hur

Saw it. (It's been out for a while.)

And I 100% support Bale, and from I understand, so did everyone else on the set.

Not that it's important.

I dont think he overreacted at all. A lot of scenes in action movies take hours and days to set up and a lot of practice, people and hard work to pull off. Some putz walking thru in the middle of it deserves an asschewing.

504 joncelli  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:22:53pm

re: #502 gregg

Maddog 20/20.

505 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:23:09pm

re: #496 gmsc

Everyone on Wall St. is an evil capitalist pig! They're not worthy! I'm glad they're losing money! I don't have any investments, anyway! It's all smoke and mirrors, man! It's a conspiracy!

506 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:23:12pm

re: #477 acwgusa

And there go 10,000 CA state workers, and all construction projects here in Brokefornia.

You mean to tell me that kowtowing to the illegals and their huge underground cash economy hasn't supplied California the needed money to support their paper pushers?

507 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:23:13pm

re: #502 gregg

What drink would you pair with Spam?


Ripple

508 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:23:17pm

re: #473 Unakite

How about drinking Wild Turkey while eating wild turkey?

I'm pretty sure that there's a dietary prohibition against that.

On the other hand, drink enough Wild Turkey and you can most likely eat whatever you can get in your mouth.

509 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:23:20pm

re: #502 gregg

What drink would you pair with Spam?

M&D 20 20

510 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:23:39pm

re: #496 gmsc

Barack 0bama elected on Nov. 4th, 2008. Dow closed at: 9,625.28
Barack 0bama signs Friday the 13th Spending Bill on February 17th, 2008. Dow closed at: 7,552.60

Congratulations, Mr. 0bama. In only 83 days after you were elected, the DJIA has dropped 2072.68 points!

One of my liberal acquaintances predicted the market would begin to recover once he was inaugurated. HA!

511 Guanxi88  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:23:39pm

re: #502 gregg

What drink would you pair with Spam?

Never touched that canned treyf myself, but the best value in cheap, hard-times booze is crappy domestic port. Mixed with a little water, or lemon-lime soda, it can become to this decade what the cosmopolitan was to the late 90's - early 00's.

512 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:23:44pm

re: #453 opnion

THank's for posting that. I was wondering how a chimp could be 200lbs. until I saw his picture. Well fed pet!

I found the part of the story where the chimp returned to his room after being shot pretty sad.

513 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:23:58pm

Fried spam in the woods is a thing of beauty.

514 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:24:04pm

re: #488 jorline

Russia's stock market closed -9.40 today.

I wonder if they remember how to boil potatoes? We may not be far behind.

They stopped trading on both the MICEX and RTS exchanges today - lock limit down.

515 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:24:17pm

re: #462 Peacekeeper

I only wonder he didn't have his own blog.

maybe he founded Daily Kos?

516 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:24:18pm

re: #512 turn

I found the part of the story where the chimp returned to his room after being shot pretty sad.

Me too

517 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:24:25pm

re: #476 Iron Fist

Wouldn't you? Before this is over, Obama may be marching class/race traitors in front of enthusiastic Obama Youth troops with rifles for some close-range target practice. Cash out now, and flee the country before it is too late.

Damn right I would cash out.

The rest of it, not so much. Looks a little reminiscent of the lefties hysterically screaming about W declaring martial law and invalidating the election.

518 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:24:39pm

re: #513 godfrey

Fried spam in the woods is a thing of beauty.

Add some sunny mustard and it becomes religious.

519 debutaunt  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:24:42pm

re: #132 Ward Cleaver

Tell the Dems to use them as suppositories.

*Click-click*

520 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:24:56pm

re: #469 vagabond trader

Awww, maybe you need to adjust your expectations. My kitty is my best bud, a true cat-dog.

Tiger fetches dum-dum pops, when I made the bad the this morning I found 20 of the dang things...:)

521 Cathypop  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:25:00pm

re: #518 loppyd

Add some sunny mustard and it becomes religious.


Amen

522 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:25:19pm

re: #493 Nevergiveup

Well he probably stinks some by now since they killed him but....

Even better. I can put him in the kid's old room. Wouldn't even notice, prolly.

523 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:25:19pm
524 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:25:21pm

Never in the course of human events has so much, in such a short time, been thrown under a single bus.

525 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:25:35pm

re: #502 gregg

What drink would you pair with Spam?

Muscatel Brown Bag

526 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:25:40pm

re: #479 Silhouette

The original ' Hokie ' had nothing to do with a turkey. ....
It was coined by O. M. Stull (class of 1896), who used it in a spirit yell he wrote for a competition.

Virginia Tech was founded in 1872 as a land-grant institution and was named Virginia Agricultural and Mechanical College. In 1896, the Virginia General Assembly officially changed the college's name to Virginia Agricultural and Mechanical College and Polytechnic Institute, a name so long that citizens shortened it in popular usage to VPI. The original college cheer, which made reference to the original name of the institution, was no longer suitable. Thus, a contest was held to select a new spirit yell, and Stull won the $5 top prize for his cheer, now known as Old Hokie:

Hoki, Hoki, Hoki, Hy.
Techs, Techs, V.P.I.
Sola-Rex, Sola-Rah.
Polytechs - Vir-gin-ia.
Rae, Ri, V.P.I.

Later, the phrase "Team! Team! Team!" was added at the end, and an "e" was added to "Hoki."

527 capitalist piglet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:25:54pm

re: #500 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Hummmmm. I don't know. Could it be....NATIONAL HEALTH CARE?
/church lady

Heh. : )

528 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:25:57pm

re: #488 jorline

Russia's stock market closed -9.40 today.

I wonder if they remember how to boil potatoes? We may not be far behind.

That must be %, wow.

529 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:01pm

re: #201 DaddyG

Does Prada make wheelbarrows?

They will now.

530 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:10pm

re: #517 CyanSnowHawk

Damn right I would cash out.

The rest of it, not so much. Looks a little reminiscent of the lefties hysterically screaming about W declaring martial law and invalidating the election.

Just remember that when the left says stuff like that, it's usually projection...

I'm not suggesting that it will happen, but that's the way the left thinks, not the right as they contend.

531 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:17pm

re: #512 turn

I found the part of the story where the chimp returned to his room after being shot pretty sad.


I did too.

Then I remembered that he tried to eat a woman.

Then again, I thought, the human who owned this wild animal should go to prison. I don't care how domisticated these creatures are, they are still wild animals.

532 Fighton03  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:18pm

re: #492 sandspur

That jobs forecast has already been revised down to about 2.5 mil

It's been revised to 0, every job NOT lost now is because this bill SAVED them.....remember?

533 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:20pm

re: #510 unreconstructed rebel

One of my liberal acquaintances predicted the market would begin to recover once he was inaugurated. HA!

When 0bama was inaugurated, the Dow closed at: 7,949.09

Tell your friend that a 396.49 point drop since inauguration isn't exactly a recovery.

534 Peacekeeper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:21pm

re: #518 loppyd

Depends on the company.

535 iChef  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:31pm

re: #502 gregg

I actually have a Spam cookbook, it also features Hormel's other fine collection of canned meats.

536 debutaunt  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:36pm

re: #140 The Shadow Do

Obama's pseudo-serious presentations just cry out for a good and proper lampooning.

Where is Monty Python when you really, really, need them.

Spend! Spend! Spend! Wonderful Spend!

537 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:41pm

re: #470 CyanSnowHawk

Not the guy that took the video.

rumor is that it was forwarded to the insurance company, in case he walked off the movie set, and that it leaked from there.

/tinsel town native

538 Guanxi88  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:51pm

Best hard-times food?

Easy, and I oughta know, I subsisted on the stuff for over a year:

Cooked cornmeal mush, with cooked beans, and anything and everything else mixed in.

Doesn't take much to fill you up, makes a more or less complete protein, and, with some meat scraps and/or the occasional egg, makes a satisfying hard-times meal. Cost? Pennies per pound.

539 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:51pm

Dow at -297.81.

540 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:26:51pm

re: #527 capitalist piglet

Heh. : )

My, isn't that special...:)


/s

541 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:27:09pm

re: #534 Peacekeeper

Depends on the company.

I usually don't spend time in the woods with people I don't like....

542 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:27:15pm

re: #513 godfrey

Fried spam in the woods is a thing of beauty.

Soon spam will be considered a premium cut of meat.

543 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:27:24pm

re: #513 godfrey

Fried spam in the woods is a thing of beauty.

But it's not a Treet (for those familiar with Spam's black-sheep cousin).

544 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:27:28pm

re: #497 unreconstructed rebel

What? A million jobs have been thrown under the bus?

That sound you heard was the sound of trillions of dollars being snuffed out by the inflation of porkulus. And yet the porkulus is insignificant when compared to the Dark Side of the Force /darth obama

545 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:27:34pm

re: #499 albusteve

give me you potatoes

Can we do this with potatoes?

546 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:27:41pm

re: #487 bulwrk

At the time of the 2003 incident, police said the Herolds told them the chimpanzee was toilet trained, dressed himself, took his own bath, ate at the table and drank wine from a stemmed glass. He also brushed his teeth using a Water Pik, logged onto the computer to look at pictures, and watched television using the remote control, police said.

ACORN registered him as a democrat in 2008

But the chimp insisted he was a Republican.

547 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:27:42pm

re: #523 Iron Fist

Yeah, he says Afghanistan.
We know where they're really heading...
Gimme a P......
He wasn't kidding when he said he'd attack the Pakis.

548 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:27:43pm

re: #538 Guanxi88

Call it "polenta" and you can charge $13.95 a plate.

549 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:27:48pm

re: #513 godfrey

Fried spam in the woods is a thing of beauty.

A pub just opened near me that serves Spam Bites: "A Minnesota must! Spam, cream cheese, and pickle breaded and deep fried."

I read they are quite popular.

550 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:28:01pm

re: #531 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I did too.

Then I remembered that he tried to eat a woman.

Then again, I thought, the human who owned this wild animal should go to prison. I don't care how domisticated these creatures are, they are still wild animals.

life in the chimp pen at the zoo...naked, no soap...see how she likes it

551 Unakite  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:28:03pm

re: #479 Silhouette

While watching a Virginia Tech game in Istanbul.

LOL-Drinking Turkey while eating turkey while watching turkies play in Turkey!

552 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:28:05pm

I forecast the return of the Flowbee.

553 Peacekeeper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:28:12pm

It's almost too bad they shot that monkey. He should have been airdropped into "Pakistan's troubled tribal region".

554 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:28:29pm

re: #514 gregg

They stopped trading on both the MICEX and RTS exchanges today - lock limit down.

Thanks...this wasn't the first time either, correct?

555 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:28:38pm
556 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:28:41pm

re: #459 vagabond trader

Gad! I do not want to hear anyone say that this Alinskyite does not know what damage he is doing.Naive my arse.

True that. He saw the American Economy as a big fat ripe piece of fruit ready for the picking to distribute to his friends and pet causes. Unfortunately the only way he could see to reach the fruit was to cut the frigging tree down!

557 leww37334  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:28:46pm

If you really want your eyes opened, remember on 3 June when Obama sealed the nomination the market was at 12,400. Today it is 7552.

558 thefallingman  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:28:52pm

re: #502 gregg

What drink would you pair with Spam?


Pork SodaYour text to link...

559 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:28:54pm

re: #549 gregg

A pub just opened near me that serves Spam Bites: "A Minnesota must! Spam, cream cheese, and pickle breaded and deep fried."

I read they are quite popular.

You lost me with the cream cheese....I have food consistency issues.

560 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:00pm

re: #516 Nevergiveup

Me too

He knew how to browse the web to look for photos among other pretty human things. Wonder if his owners ever caught him browsing for chimp porn. Seriously though, the owners must almost feel like they lost a child.

561 Guanxi88  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:09pm

re: #542 FurryOldGuyJeans

Soon spam will be considered a premium cut of meat.

New a Russian guy who told me that eating Spam as a boy (he went from child to soldier at Leningrad, during the Great Patriotic War) was what convinced him he had to come to the States.

He said any country rich enough to produce such food in such quantities and ship it over to another to save their lives had to be the best, richest, and most human place on earth.

Guy loved America like she was his first girlfriend and bride of his youth.

562 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:11pm

re: #528 turn

That must be %, wow.

sorry, it was %.

563 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:13pm

When did Mr. Hopenchange become Dr. Fearendoom?

564 bruxellesblog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:19pm

I have a vision of Paul Volcker being held at gunpoint by two Obama operatives in an outfit not dissimilar to "The Gimp" in Pulp Fiction.

And here, folks, is the close

7,552.60
-297.81 (-3.79%)
Feb 17 - Close
Brought to you by Hopenchange.

565 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:25pm

re: #501 eschew_obfuscation

Yeah, I don't envy you for that.... we could (may yet) be in worse shape.

You will not!
You've got your cosntitution, 2nd amendment, and now there is the Inetrent and its thus far less easy for the MFM to peddle their agendas.
Youv'e seen with your own eyes where that crap can lead a once proud nation - so you are forewarned, which we definitely weren't.

So - courage - you'll be back with a Rep majority in 2010, when we've got our Tory government.
Things are looking up!

566 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:29pm

testre: #456 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I wonder how long it will be before employers stop offering health care?

Status of the Social Security and Medicare Programs.
This is from Apr. '08 and shows the projected level of funding of the various programs within Social Security.

SS Health Insurance is ALREADY in the red. This is one of the reasons they've been yakking about Universal health care because at the level of current funding, SS Health Insurance is broke.

567 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:36pm

re: #549 gregg

A pub just opened near me that serves Spam Bites: "A Minnesota must! Spam, cream cheese, and pickle breaded and deep fried."

I read they are quite popular.

In Hawaii, Spam is a delicacy. They serve it with rice wrapped in seaweed ala sushi.

568 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:46pm

re: #545 jorline

Can we do this with potatoes?

no shrimp tacos?

569 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:54pm

re: #552 SasquatchOnSteroids

I forecast the return of the Flowbee.

I make a mean pot of pinto beans. Guess we'll be eating more of those.

/must.buy.stock.in.beano.

570 Idle Drifter  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:55pm

I'm serious folks I can't get the page to load to read the ARRA (aka Stimulus Bill). I've been at it for about 20 minutes is anyone else having any luck?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ARRA_public_review/

571 Suzette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:29:55pm

re: #524 unreconstructed rebel

Never in the course of human events has so much, in such a short time, been thrown under a single bus.

No kidding....one only wonders what else will be thrown under the bus!
It's anyones guess!

572 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:30:12pm

re: #549 gregg

Yeah, especially with the cardiologists at Mayo. A house payment in every bite....
/sarc/

573 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:30:31pm

You need something to stand up to all the salt in Spam, and its fattiness. I'm guessing a cheap chianti would have enough berry and acid.

574 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:30:44pm
575 n in wi  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:30:49pm

re: #546 Kosh's Shadow

But the chimp insisted he was a Republican.

Hey, he could brush his teeth and open car doors. He knew he was smarter than the average Dem.

576 bulwrk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:31:00pm

re: #546 Kosh's Shadow

But the chimp insisted he was a Republican.

Yeah the toilet trained part is not consistent with ACORN democrats

577 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:31:31pm

re: #567 unreconstructed rebel

In Hawaii, Spam is a delicacy. They serve it with rice wrapped in seaweed ala sushi.

I've read that Hawaii leads the U.S. in per capita consumption of Spam, and that it goes back to WWII, when meat was hard to come by there.

578 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:31:35pm

re: #560 turn

He knew how to browse the web to look for photos among other pretty human things. Wonder if his owners ever caught him browsing for chimp porn. Seriously though, the owners must almost feel like they lost a child.

From what I can tell, it almost sounds like he flipped out on the medications he was taking.

579 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:31:36pm

re: #548 godfrey

It's funny. At the grocery store the polenta costs about 50% more than the grits. They're exactly the same thing.

580 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:31:37pm

re: #569 Ward Cleaver

I make a mean pot of pinto beans. Guess we'll be eating more of those.

/must.buy.stock.in.beano.

pinto beans and rice are through the roof in NM....people are getting testy

581 DisturbedEma  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:32:06pm

re: #563 Kenneth

When did Mr. Hopenchange become Dr. Fearendoom?

The day he began to run for president. . .for me.. .

582 Unakite  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:32:09pm

re: #502 gregg

What drink would you pair with Spam?

Not a clue, but I'm thinking that Monty Python has the answer somewhere.

583 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:32:15pm

re: #559 loppyd

You lost me with the cream cheese....I have food consistency issues.


{loopyd} !
How are you doing?

584 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:32:22pm

a 300 point drop for the Dow.

585 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:32:23pm

re: #574 Iron Fist

Is called sarcasm...
Is, how you say, joke...

You mean like this?

/?

586 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:32:26pm

re: #580 albusteve

pinto beans and rice are through the roof in NM....people are getting testy


I've been stockpiling dry goods, including legumes, since BO got nominated.

587 Silhouette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:32:42pm

re: #526 tradewind

Aye, this I know. But surely you're familiar with the Fighting Gobblers? ;-)

588 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:32:55pm

re: #502 gregg

What drink would you pair with Spam?

Shmidt's

589 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:33:10pm

re: #531 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I did too.

Then I remembered that he tried to eat a woman.

Then again, I thought, the human who owned this wild animal should go to prison. I don't care how domisticated these creatures are, they are still wild animals.

Yeah that was justification for killing him for sure, but I still felt sort of sorry for him. The woman will be scared for life. I'm not so sure about the prison thing, I would feel a lot safer around a chimp than a pit bull for instance.

590 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:33:17pm

re: #563 Kenneth

When did Mr. Hopenchange become Dr. Fearendoom?

When he opened up that gift wrapped recession that W. left him as a parting gift.

/

591 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:33:20pm

re: #502 gregg

What drink would you pair with Spam?

Milwaukee's Best?

592 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:33:22pm

re: #588 DeafDog
Yeah, spam is beer food.

593 Guanxi88  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:33:42pm

re: #563 Kenneth

When did Mr. Hopenchange become Dr. Fearendoom?

Howsabout Dr. Otto von Schnick?

594 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:33:46pm

re: #573 godfrey

You need something to stand up to all the salt in Spam, and its fattiness. I'm guessing a cheap chianti would have enough berry and acid.

When my daughter visits, what she always asks me to fix for breakfast is Spam cubed small and fried, then mixed with scrambled eggs to which I've added Velveeta.

I'm pretty sure that the only actual food product there is the egg.

595 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:33:48pm

re: #520 Dustyvet

Sweet, they are the best.

596 Crashnburn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:33:52pm

re: #462 Peacekeeper

I only wonder he didn't have his own blog.

He did - it is called "Daily Kos"!

597 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:33:59pm

re: #583 HoosierHoops

{loopyd} !
How are you doing?

{Hooooosier Daddy}!

I'm feeling better - finally. Thanks for asking.

How's by you?

598 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:34:09pm

re: #581 DisturbedEma

I think it was the day after he was elected. He was Hopenchange when he was trying to well himself, he became Fearendoom when he had to sell his stimulus bill.

599 DisturbedEma  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:34:16pm

re: #594 razorbacker

When my daughter visits, what she always asks me to fix for breakfast is Spam cubed small and fried, then mixed with scrambled eggs to which I've added Velveeta.

I'm pretty sure that the only actual food product there is the egg.

ack! is that in the Lizard cook book?

600 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:34:31pm

re: #554 jorline

Thanks...this wasn't the first time either, correct?

It's happened a few times over the last 3-4 months.

601 DisturbedEma  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:34:34pm

re: #596 Crashnburn

He did - it is called "Daily Kos"!

Huff Po?

602 2by2  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:34:37pm

re: #496 gmsc

Barack 0bama elected on Nov. 4th, 2008. Dow closed at: 9,625.28
Barack 0bama signs Friday the 13th Spending Bill on February 17th, 2008. Dow closed at: 7,552.60

Congratulations, Mr. 0bama. In only 83 days after you were elected, the DJIA has dropped 2072.68 points!

As the old Jewish saying goes: "Could be worse"
/

603 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:34:45pm

trying to sell himself

604 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:34:51pm

re: #569 Ward Cleaver

I make a mean pot of pinto beans. Guess we'll be eating more of those.

/must.buy.stock.in.beano.

Are you better off than you were a month, no, a week, no no, a day ago ?
A bull in a china shop we've got here.

605 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:34:54pm

re: #594 razorbacker

When my daughter visits, what she always asks me to fix for breakfast is Spam cubed small and fried, then mixed with scrambled eggs to which I've added Velveeta.

I'm pretty sure that the only actual food product there is the egg.

The Eggs of Power?

/

606 bulwrk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:34:59pm

re: #502 gregg

What drink would you pair with Spam?

yahoo

607 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:34:59pm

re: #586 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I've been stockpiling dry goods, including legumes, since BO got nominated.

all food out here is sky friggin high...all these poor folks and Native Ams are taking a hit....tortillas are very expensive

608 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:35:03pm

re: #577 Ward Cleaver

I've read that Hawaii leads the U.S. in per capita consumption of Spam, and that it goes back to WWII, when meat was hard to come by there.

Mrs. Hawk does a Spam and Mimosa breakfast on Sunday mornings for our whole group when we go camping.

609 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:35:03pm

re: #590 loppyd

When he opened up that gift wrapped recession that W. the Democratic congress left him as a parting gift.

/

Now you don't have to waste the sarc tag.

610 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:35:20pm

re: #587 Silhouette

Yeah. I was just being argumentative online, which is so much safer than getting your gripe on in real life...
:)

611 bruxellesblog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:35:25pm

re: #525 FurryOldGuyJeans

What drink would you pair with Spam?

The redneck special, Jello shots.

612 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:35:26pm

re: #602 2by2

As the old Jewish saying goes: "Could be worse"
/

Could be raining!

613 n in wi  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:35:31pm

re: #578 Nevergiveup

From what I can tell, it almost sounds like he flipped out on the medications he was taking.

I thought he just found out he lost a ton in the Madoff thing.

614 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:35:41pm

re: #599 DisturbedEma

ack! is that in the Lizard cook book?

I'd be surprised to find that in any book.

615 Kenneth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:35:46pm

re: #607 albusteve

Thank the ethanol boondoggle for driving the price of corn up.

616 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:35:46pm

re: #584 Killgore Trout

a 300 point drop for the Dow.

The last 30 minutes saw 110 points disappear.

617 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:35:49pm

re: #565 yma o hyd

You will not!
You've got your cosntitution, 2nd amendment, and now there is the Inetrent and its thus far less easy for the MFM to peddle their agendas.
Youv'e seen with your own eyes where that crap can lead a once proud nation - so you are forewarned, which we definitely weren't.

So - courage - you'll be back with a Rep majority in 2010, when we've got our Tory government.
Things are looking up!

I really am glad to hear of your new Tory government. Someone has to put the likes of Livingston and Galloway out on the street (o.k.....maybe I'm dreaming again).

I was disappointed when John Howard (Australia) was replaced with someone more liberal.

618 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:00pm

re: #609 DaddyG

Now you don't have to waste the sarc tag.

Much better. Thanks Daddy!

619 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:02pm

re: #588 DeafDog

Shmidt's

I was thinking Iron City, but Shmidt's works.

620 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:10pm

re: #597 loppyd

{Hooooosier Daddy}!

I'm feeling better - finally. Thanks for asking.

How's by you?

Doing just wonderful..Off work in a few..so that's always good.
I'm glad you are feeling better...

621 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:10pm

re: #588 DeafDog

Shmidt's

How about Hamms?

622 kansas  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:16pm

How long until the polls reflect that Obama is actually exacerbating the problem?

623 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:32pm

re: #601 DisturbedEma

I also heard that HuffPo has replaced Kos as the official Hope'n Change promotion vehicle.

624 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:36pm

re: #477 acwgusa

And there go 10,000 CA state workers, and all construction projects here in Brokefornia.

I can see the following future book about migrants during a financial upheaval.

"The lines of cars and trucks were headed east away from the promised deserted land --some with signs saying "Oklahoma or Bust We Went Bust."

Horace Greeley -- "Go back to where you came from".

625 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:37pm

re: #596 Crashnburn

He did - it is called "Daily Kos"!

copy cat.

626 Crashnburn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:41pm

re: #601 DisturbedEma

The chimpanzee that was shot and killed....

627 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:46pm

re: #592 Killgore Trout

Yeah, spam is beer food.

Cheap beer - Shmidt's, Milwaukee's Best, Hamm's, Natty-Bo or Lone Star, depending on where in the country you are.

628 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:36:59pm

re: #379 buzzsawmonkey

It is ironic indeed that "depression" was first used to describe the Great Depression in its early days because "recession" was considered too panic-inducing; rather than a "recession," the economy was held to be in "just a little depression."

Buzz, hate break it to you, but the term "depression" was first used for the Long Depression of 1873-1897. In fact, that depression was known as the Great Depression until it was surpassed in the 1930s.

629 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:37:04pm

re: #615 Kenneth

Thank the ethanol boondoggle for driving the price of corn up.

exactly...that law absolutely needs to come off the books

630 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:37:11pm

re: #622 kansas

How long until the polls reflect that Obama is actually exacerbating the problem?

When the Dow drops through 5,000?

/like a rock in a vacuum

631 Silhouette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:37:22pm

Now, you see, I would go the opposite way with Spam.

Drink it with Dom Pérignon.

Should average out, right?

632 Crashnburn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:37:32pm

re: #625 redc1c4

Sorry if I didn't catch yours!

633 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:37:38pm
634 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:37:42pm

Hamas Stole Seven Tons of Weapons from UN in Gaza

Hamas stole tons of explosives, weapons and unexploded bombs that it was guarding for the United Nations, which gathered the ordnance during Operation Cast Lead. The Hamas guard has disappeared along with the bombs and explosives.

The discovery of missing weapons, first revealed by British Broadcasting Corp. (BBC), is the latest in a number of embarrassing episodes for the U.N. and United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). Israeli military spokesman Peter Lerner charged Hamas with "commandeering" the bombs, explosives and artillery shells.
.....
"We are anxious to get the return of this ordnance," U.N. Jerusalem spokesman Richard Miron told the BBC. "It's clearly extremely dangerous and needs to be disposed of in a safe manner.

Lol

635 Racer X  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:37:43pm

re: #611 bruxellesblog

What drink would you pair with Spam?

The redneck special, Jello shots.

YooHoo!
/shake it

636 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:37:51pm

re: #616 CyanSnowHawk

The last 30 minutes saw 110 points disappear.

right...there goes my friggin retirement...I'm 56

637 BeStill  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:37:57pm

Sorry if this has been requested before, but can anyone give me a link to the final Spendulous Bill? Thanks!

638 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:37:58pm

Postmaster General Got Huge Pay Bump While Simultaneously Calling for Cuts in Delivery
—Gabriel Malor

The price of a stamp will go up 2 cents in May. The Postmaster General has proposed reducing postal delivery to five days a week. And he gets compensated (if the Washington Times is correct) $800,000 in pay, benefits, and perks.

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

The sweet smell of success?

639 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:38:01pm

re: #627 DeafDog

Cheap beer - Shmidt's, Milwaukee's Best, Hamm's, Natty-Bo or Lone Star, depending on where in the country you are.

Schaefer.

/strain the chunks out first

640 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:38:03pm

re: #622 kansas

If FDR is any guide, I'd say fifty, maybe sixty years after he leaves office.....

641 kansas  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:38:11pm

re: #630 Ward Cleaver

When the Dow drops through 5,000?

/like a rock in a vacuum

What, like next week or by Friday?

642 Silhouette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:38:13pm

re: #610 tradewind

Yeah. I was just being argumentative online, which is so much safer than getting your gripe on in real life...
:)

I'm that way with people who put a period after Dr in Dr Pepper.

643 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:38:16pm

It's just like burning money!

644 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:38:28pm

re: #568 albusteve

no shrimp tacos?

I like shrimp tacos.

645 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:38:32pm

Brokefornia has now been upgraded to Brokeassifornia.

646 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:38:50pm

re: #559 loppyd

You lost me with the cream cheese....I have food consistency issues.

Here's a picture of the Spam Bites. Kinda like a Jalapeno popper.

647 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:38:50pm

re: #627 DeafDog

Cheap beer - Shmidt's, Milwaukee's Best, Hamm's, Natty-Bo or Lone Star, depending on where in the country you are.

Do they still brew Hamm's? lol

648 SummerSong  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:38:56pm

Giving it all away -

Your text to link...

649 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:39:02pm

re: #634 Killgore Trout


STOLEN, MY ASS.

650 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:39:04pm

re: #636 albusteve

right...there goes my friggin retirement...I'm 56

Stop whining. I'm 64 (and very pissed off)

651 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:39:05pm

re: #505 godfrey
You did leave off the /sarc tag?

652 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:39:05pm

re: #627 DeafDog

You forgot Pearl and Dixie.... bottled straight from under the hoss.

653 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:39:08pm
654 Silhouette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:39:23pm

re: #622 kansas

How long until the polls reflect that Obama is actually exacerbating the problem?

Except never in the history of time have leftists admitted one of their solutions was wrong. The only response is ever that they didn't try enough.

God help us.

655 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:39:38pm

re: #624 jcw46

I can see the following future book about migrants during a financial upheaval.

"The lines of cars and trucks were headed east away from the promised deserted land --some with signs saying "Oklahoma or Bust We Went Bust."

Horace Greeley -- "Go back to where you came from".

I hear Las Vegas and Detroit are now the two most abandoned cities in the U.S.

656 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:39:42pm
657 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:39:50pm

More thirsty Koalas...

Koalas have been suffering during the recent heatwave and turning to man made sources for water, coming out of the bush and uncharacteristically entering built up areas.

The text below is associated with the pics of the koala who hailed down some cyclists in the Adelaide Hills.

658 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:39:58pm

re: #643 godfrey

It's just like burning money!

What's the SEER of burning money, anyway?

659 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:40:06pm

re: #638 Nevergiveup

and we little folk still have to put up with surly post office clerks.

660 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:40:22pm

I've got my V-8 interceport and gyrocopter on stand by assuming Obama keeps talking the economy into the dirt

661 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:40:24pm

re: #644 jorline

Buy those little frozen shrimp. Toss handful in hot nonstick skillet. Grate manchego cheese on top. They melt into a patty. Put on bun, toss on some pico, and eat. Beautiful.

662 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:40:34pm

re: #617 eschew_obfuscation

Livingstone is already out - thanks to Boris Johnson, Tory, natch ...

There was a brief peiv=ce in one of the papers about how there are no more so-called 'high-flyers', i.e. young and coming civil servants, applying for jobs in the private offices of the NuLab ministers - and they also are said to moan that the top civil servants are dragging their feet in regard to implementing thei policies - whereas the same civil servants are now psending far more time briefing the Tory shdow cabinet.
Which means, translated for the man in the street, that the election will be coming sooner rather than later - and that those 'in the know' are pretty damn sure it'll be the Tories who'll get in.

663 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:40:43pm

re: #643 godfrey

It's just like burning money!

The country way of saying someone is rich?

'At fellers got enough money to burn a wet mule.

*I don't know. Don't ask*

664 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:40:44pm

re: #644 jorline

I like shrimp tacos.

so do I...most people never heard of them...I keep a coupla pounds in the freezer just for that...BBQ prawns are right up there too

665 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:41:06pm

Speaking of primates gone wild:

Attorney Miffed At Gorilla's Birthday Party


BOSTON -- Birthday streamers and an oversized cake heralded the birthday of Boston’s most famous gorilla Monday, but some found little to celebrate in the occasion.

NewsCenter 5’s Rhondella Richardson reported that the Franklin Park Zoo kicked off it’s “Go Ape Week” activities by celebrating the birthday of 16-year-old Little Joe, a gorilla that grabbed international headlines in 2003 when it escaped from the zoo and injured two people.

The decision to highlight Little Joe’s birthday has been questioned by an attorney who represented one of the victims in a 2007 civil case against the zoo. Donald L. Gibson told the Boston Globe that he believes the zoo is capitalizing on Little Joe’s publicity.

"It's very frustrating to see this particular gorilla -- Little Joe -- used as a marketing tool given what happened," Gibson told the paper.

Monday’s celebration included games and door prizes, as well as a gigantic cake frosted to look like a Massachusetts driver’s license with Little Joe’s picture.

666 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:41:09pm

re: #655 acwgusa

I hear Las Vegas and Detroit are now the two most abandoned cities in the U.S.

Vegas? Really?

How can they tell when population varies by hundreds of thousands from Saturday to Wednesday?

/

667 yma o hyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:41:19pm

Gotta go, Lizards, that Madame Dog is giving me the Collie stare!

668 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:41:23pm
669 The Shadow Do  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:41:31pm

re: #543 razorbacker

But it's not a Treet (for those familiar with Spam's black-sheep cousin).

Horse c***k vs. pony peeter

670 kansas  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:41:42pm

re: #650 unreconstructed rebel

Stop whining. I'm 64 (and very pissed off)

I'm 60. My Edward Jones guy is still spouting that buy and hold shit. I was in cash in June, and he agreed that last month was a good time to get back in. Luckily I didn't go all in, but I'm down 40% of what I put in stocks, and maybe 10% in mutual funds. Their research is not showing this. ........must be crappy research.

671 Bob Dillon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:41:44pm

re: #36 Ward Cleaver

"Bi-partisan": He screws people from both parties.

Since "I won" you may have that with a left, or right handed thread. Now if you will drop your drawers and bend over ...

672 summergurl  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:41:48pm

re: #636 albusteve

right...there goes my friggin retirement...I'm 56

Hubby is 52 and I'm 47 - we're hoping for some sort of rebound in the next 15 years -----

673 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:41:55pm

re: #651 jcw46

Jackbooted thug! Fascist pig! You probably think making money is a good idea!

674 n in wi  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:41:57pm

re: #654 Silhouette

Except never in the history of time have leftists admitted one of their solutions was wrong. The only response is ever that they didn't try enough.

God help us.

There was someone talking about FDR's New Deal not working because it didn't spend enough. this could be stimulus 1, with stimulus 2 around the corner.

675 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:08pm

re: #669 The Shadow Do

Horse c***k vs. pony peeter

C***k?

676 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:12pm

re: #661 godfrey

Buy those little frozen shrimp. Toss handful in hot nonstick skillet. Grate manchego cheese on top. They melt into a patty. Put on bun, toss on some pico, and eat. Beautiful.

Not bad...thanks godfrey.

677 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:21pm

re: #632 Crashnburn

Sorry if I didn't catch yours!

515...... no worries!

678 Silhouette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:21pm

re: #634 Killgore Trout

Hamas stole tons of explosives, weapons and unexploded bombs that IT was guarding for the United Nations

I think I see yer problem rat chere.

/Dan the mechanic

679 tradewind  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:25pm

re: #642 Silhouette
You think that's ticky... just the other day, a lizard wasted a whole post just to let me know that it was Johnnie Walker, not the Johnny I had hurriedly typo'd.
All that effort, just to save me from embarrassment in the real world.
:)

680 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:31pm

re: #506 mean Gene

You mean to tell me that kowtowing to the illegals and their huge underground cash economy hasn't supplied California the needed money to support their paper pushers?

Well, you know, when the economy went south, so did the illegals.

681 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:36pm

re: #502 gregg

What drink would you pair with Spam?

How about some Jealous Bitch Cabernet?

(scroll half-way down the page)

682 DawnofTruth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:37pm

re: #443 SusanL

This started this morning. I work in Employee Benefits.

Porkulus requires that employers pay 65% of the COBRA premium for any employees who are laid off due to "reduction in force, due to the economy".

COBRA for those of you who don't know is a federal law that requires employers (over a certain size) to allow former employees (or dependents in certain circumstances) to continue on the employer health plan after they have terminated employment. This USED to be at the employee's expense.

To offset the cost? The employers are to take a credit against their federal tax deposits (this is the employees money) and the employer portion of the FICA tax (social security).

Think about this folks... This is going to be a freaking nightmare.


S

SusanL link?

683 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:50pm

re: #658 Ward Cleaver

Any carbon footprint of burning currency is a small price to pay for saving the planet!

"/" for JCW

684 thefallingman  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:51pm

re: #652 tradewind

You forgot Pearl and Dixie.... bottled straight from under the hoss.


They use cows in India.

685 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:52pm

re: #646 gregg

Here's a picture of the Spam Bites. Kinda like a Jalapeno popper.

Couldn't do it. I don't like mushy things inside of fried things.

686 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:42:54pm

re: #650 unreconstructed rebel

Stop whining. I'm 64 (and very pissed off)

will you still need me
will you still feed me

687 debutaunt  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:43:11pm

re: #236 razorbacker

Butterball just laid off 150 from the local plant.

Folks, it is imperative that you go home tonight and eat a turkey.

I'm totally cereal here. Comeon people, not only are dozens of rednecks depending on your consumption, but untold numbers of poor souls down in Mexico depend on those funds sent home.

Turkey. The other, other white meat.

The Ocean Spray folks are doomed.

688 Cathypop  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:43:17pm

re: #622 kansas

How long until the polls reflect that Obama is actually exacerbating the problem?


Dream on.

689 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:43:26pm

re: #647 midwestgak

Do they still brew Hamm's? lol

They serve the beer from the Land of Sky Blue Waters in a bar down the block. I'm not sure where it's brewed (the Hamms brewery in St Paul sits empty).

690 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:43:32pm

re: #664 albusteve

so do I...most people never heard of them...I keep a coupla pounds in the freezer just for that...BBQ prawns are right up there too

In south Texas everything goes in a tortilla...:)

691 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:43:37pm
692 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:43:42pm
693 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:43:49pm

re: #674 n in wi

There was someone talking about FDR's New Deal not working because it didn't spend enough. this could be stimulus 1, with stimulus 2 around the corner.

Folks get too stimulated, they might have one of those 'cardiac events' you hear so much of.

694 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:02pm

re: #668 buzzsawmonkey

Nah, they're all Anglo where I live, just miserable cusses. I usually try to go to the next town over, much happier bunch.

695 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:03pm

re: #675 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

C***k?

Caulk

696 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:04pm
697 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:26pm

re: #652 tradewind

You forgot Pearl and Dixie.... bottled straight from under the hoss.

Ya know, I think all these cheapo beer's are actually made by the same company.

698 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:35pm

re: #651 jcw46

You did leave off the /sarc tag?

what's a sarc tag?

699 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:36pm

re: #691 Iron Fist

I turn forty this year. I'm planning on dying for my retirement :-)

I'm 35. I hope I still have a job when I die. I know I'll never seem a dime of social security.

700 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:38pm

re: #589 turn

Yeah that was justification for killing him for sure, but I still felt sort of sorry for him. The woman will be scared for life. I'm not so sure about the prison thing, I would feel a lot safer around a chimp than a pit bull for instance.


He was killed because he was attempting to get into a squad with the officer inside. He was a fatty but those chimps are VERY STRONG and can kill/maim. I think he was TOO domesticated and he got pissed when they wouldn't let him go for a ride.

701 Guanxi88  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:38pm

re: #692 buzzsawmonkey

I prefer the Cabernet of Dr. Caligari.

Yes, makes your problems just disappear.

702 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:45pm

re: #691 Iron Fist

I turn forty this year. I'm planning on dying for my retirement :-)

Forty is the new thirty.

703 BruxellesBlog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:46pm

re: #665 loppyd

Boston's most famous Gorilla bats DH for the Red Socks...

Oh, and he doesn't take roids... honest... really...

704 godfrey  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:47pm

re: #692 buzzsawmonkey

Cannibal Chianti

705 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:55pm
706 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:44:56pm

re: #674 n in wi

There was someone talking about FDR's New Deal not working because it didn't spend enough. this could be stimulus 1, with stimulus 2 around the corner.

But what if we're not into double penetration?

707 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:45:01pm

re: #627 DeafDog

Cheap beer - Shmidt's, Milwaukee's Best, Hamm's, Natty-Bo or Lone Star, depending on where in the country you are.


No No No..Don't you guys know anything?
A perfect match for spam is a 2005 Buoncristiani Brothers Claret.
A delightful blend of Cabs and Sayrah wines From Napa Valley.
/

708 bloodnok  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:45:01pm
709 Caliredst8r  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:45:07pm

re: #638 Nevergiveup

The sweet smell of success a government job?

FTFY. Success optional

710 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:45:38pm

re: #696 Ward Cleaver

In other news,

Yemen Captures Al Qaeda Commander, a Former Guantanamo Detainee

Recidivism.

Well, he was a simple goat farmer until he spent time in Gitmo, right?

///

711 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:45:38pm

re: #696 Ward Cleaver

In other news,

Yemen Captures Al Qaeda Commander, a Former Guantanamo Detainee

Recidivism.

Nice pinky ring. Is he in the AQ mob?

712 kansas  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:45:43pm

re: #696 Ward Cleaver

In other news,

Yemen Captures Al Qaeda Commander, a Former Guantanamo Detainee

Recidivism.

We won't have that problem when they close it.////

713 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:45:51pm

re: #662 yma o hyd

Livingstone is already out - thanks to Boris Johnson, Tory, natch ...

There was a brief peiv=ce in one of the papers about how there are no more so-called 'high-flyers', i.e. young and coming civil servants, applying for jobs in the private offices of the NuLab ministers - and they also are said to moan that the top civil servants are dragging their feet in regard to implementing thei policies - whereas the same civil servants are now psending far more time briefing the Tory shdow cabinet.
Which means, translated for the man in the street, that the election will be coming sooner rather than later - and that those 'in the know' are pretty damn sure it'll be the Tories who'll get in.

I probably should have remembered about Livingstone...but wow! Good news all around.

714 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:45:54pm

re: #689 gregg

They serve the beer from the Land of Sky Blue Waters in a bar down the block. I'm not sure where it's brewed (the Hamms brewery in St Paul sits empty).

I always dug the bear.

715 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:46:06pm

re: #708 bloodnok

Little Joe! I forgot all about him.

Remember that pathetic trial?

716 summergurl  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:46:08pm

re: #691 Iron Fist

I turn forty this year. I'm planning on dying for my retirement :-)

I hear ya' --

We have zero debt except the house - a lot better off than some folks in that aspect.

717 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:46:37pm

re: #708 bloodnok

Little Joe! I forgot all about him.

Don't forget about Big Joe. He went with Kelly and Oddball to deal with the Tiger.

/Someone has to know that reference.

718 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:46:38pm

re: #689 gregg

They serve the beer from the Land of Sky Blue Waters in a bar down the block. I'm not sure where it's brewed (the Hamms brewery in St Paul sits empty).

HAHA. Land of Sky Blue Waters. Hamm's. Refreshing!

719 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:46:41pm

re: #85 HelloDare

Hmmm. I've noticed that Obama is left-handed. When Bush the Elder debated Clinton and Perot, they all started writing after the debate concluded. All three were left-handed.

Is "W" left-handed? Is there a presidential sinister-handedness thing going on here?

720 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:47:02pm

re: #661 godfrey

Buy those little frozen shrimp. Toss handful in hot nonstick skillet. Grate manchego cheese on top. They melt into a patty. Put on bun, toss on some pico, and eat. Beautiful.

same thing only add tomatoes and some lettuce rolled in a tortilla

721 bloodnok  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:47:05pm

re: #703 BruxellesBlog

Boston's most famous Gorilla bats DH for the Red Socks...

Oh, and he doesn't take roids... honest... really...

WhyIoughtta.... /

722 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:47:24pm

re: #697 DeafDog

Ya know, I think all these cheapo beer's are actually made by the same company.

"Kidney Inc."

723 bloodnok  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:47:27pm

re: #715 loppyd

Remember that pathetic trial?

And D&C getting suspended over him.

724 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:47:27pm

re: #703 BruxellesBlog

Boston's most famous Gorilla bats DH for the Red Socks...

Oh, and he doesn't take roids... honest... really...

Did you just call Big Papi a gorilla?

725 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:47:31pm

re: #714 Ward Cleaver

I always dug the bear.

When I was a kid my dad sold Hamm's so I got a stuffed Hamm's bear with an am radio in it's belly. I was so cool.

726 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:47:49pm

re: #711 loppyd

Nice pinky ring. Is he in the AQ mob?

I dunno, but his wardrobe has acquired a Latin American flavor.

727 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:47:54pm

re: #696 Ward Cleaver

In other news,

Yemen Captures Al Qaeda Commander, a Former Guantanamo Detainee

Recidivism.

Easy cure for this guy, One blindfold, 12 riflemen, one brink wall, ready, aim, fire, and then the parole board disbands for the day...

728 The Shadow Do  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:47:55pm

re: #675 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

C***k?

typo: c**k

729 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:48:00pm

re: #707 HoosierHoops

No No No..Don't you guys know anything?
A perfect match for spam is a 2005 Buoncristiani Brothers Claret.
A delightful blend of Cabs and Sayrah wines From Napa Valley.
/

Hey, Hoopster.
Did you see the Aggie's whoop Texas last night?

730 redc1c4  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:48:14pm

re: #717 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Don't forget about Big Joe. He went with Kelly and Oddball to deal with the Tiger.

/Someone has to know that reference.

Morriarty stayed back with the tank: they didn't want any negative waves.

731 bloodnok  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:48:20pm

re: #696 Ward Cleaver

In other news,

Yemen Captures Al Qaeda Commander, a Former Guantanamo Detainee

Recidivism.

Johnny Damon sighting.

732 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:48:26pm

re: #674 n in wi

There was someone talking about FDR's New Deal not working because it didn't spend enough. this could be stimulus 1, with stimulus 2 around the corner.

I've seen that turd of an idea passed around in leftist circles. The only thing that works is restraint on spending. Harding, Coolidge, and Mellon understood this. Hoover and FDR did not. The recession of 1921 became the Roaring Twenties. The recessions of 1929 and 1937 became the Great Depression. Reagan learned his lessons in 1981 and followed Harding and Mellon rather than FDR. Now we're watching another Hoover and FDR in action.

733 turn  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:48:34pm

re: #633 Iron Fist

That doesn't mean you would be safer around a chimp than you would be a pitbull. To one degree or another all (or almost all) pet animals can hurt you. Try asking Richard Gear about his gerbil...

Ha!

BBL - At the Sac airport on the way to San Diego ...

734 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:48:37pm

re: #719 quickjustice

Being a southpaw myself, it was very distressing to see the potus is also. What's worse is that my b'day is the same as Yasar Arafat's. Nice.

735 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:48:37pm

re: #659 vagabond trader

and we little folk still have to put up with surly post office clerks.

In fairness post office clerks have to put up with surly little people. But 800,000 for the top spot in a bankrupt enterprise. Wow! How can I get that kind of compensation for failing my responsibilities?

736 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:48:41pm

re: #690 jorline

In south Texas everything goes in a tortilla...:)

I here ya...an entire breakfast...mmm
and lots of green chile

737 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:48:43pm

re: #725 redstateredneck

When I was a kid my dad sold Hamm's so I got a stuffed Hamm's bear with an am radio in it's belly. I was so cool.

Too bad you don't still have it.

738 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:48:59pm

re: #731 bloodnok

Johnny Damon sighting.

Upding!

739 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:49:00pm

re: #723 bloodnok

And D&C getting suspended over him.

that was ridiculous.

740 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:49:03pm

re: #645 acwgusa

Brokefornia has now been upgraded to Brokeassifornia.

Here's what California (and New York) are looking at. Read the whole piece, including the new update.

What If New York Goes Bust?
by John Avlon

Forget the car companies and Lehman Brothers. Two of the biggest states in the country are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, thanks to ridiculous union agreements that can’t be changed.

If California and New York State were businesses, they'd be going bankrupt. If you're among the nearly 20 percent of Americans who live or work in these two states, the fiscal crisis is coming home for the holidays. And the worst is still on its way.

California, the world's eighth largest economy, will run out of money in March if the deadlocked legislature and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger can't come to an agreement on tax-hikes and spending cuts. Its bonds have been reduced to near-junk status after decades of borrowing and spending. State Treasurer Bill Lockyer summed up the situation in terms unhelpful to the tourist industry: "California's fiscal house is burning down."

741 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:49:08pm

re: #655 acwgusa

I hear Las Vegas and Detroit are now the two most abandoned cities in the U.S.

The difference is the abandoned homes in Vegas you could actually live in, where the abandoned homes in Detroit are burnt out shells or have deteriorated to the point where you can't live in 'em (or you'd get shot dead if you did).

742 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:49:24pm
743 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:49:25pm

re: #730 redc1c4

Morriarty stayed back with the tank: they didn't want any negative waves.

Well, Barbera stayed with him. Sorry, meant Babera

744 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:49:29pm
745 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:49:30pm

More Lizard porn....

For V-Day, we let out Iguana Princess Isabella, or Izzy, out of her cage in the back yard, to interact with one of her wild boyfriends, who come to visit her.

746 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:49:35pm

re: #737 Ward Cleaver

Too bad you don't still have it.

That and my Barbie dream house, I could be one rich bitch from ebay.
:-(

747 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:49:48pm

re: #729 jorline

Hey, Hoopster.
Did you see the Aggie's whoop Texas last night?

I saw about the last 20 or 30 minutes of it.. Big game in Texas!

748 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:49:53pm

re: #716 summergurl

I hear ya' --

We have zero debt except the house - a lot better off than some folks in that aspect.

Couple of years ago I proposed the idea to my wife of pulling enough out of my IRA to pay off the house.

Take the tax bit, take the penalty. I didn't do it, cause the cost was going to be so high.

So now I'm sitting on a potential loss that would have more than covered all taxes and penalties and the house price.

I'm a freaking financial genius. No, no. Please. No need to bow and scrape. I'm only semi-human like y'all.

749 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:50:08pm

re: #714 Ward Cleaver

I always dug the bear.

I loved those commercials when I was growing up. Hamms and Twins baseball - that was summer.

750 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:50:15pm

re: #735 DaddyG

You're right, tho we are a pretty laid back little town. I'm sure the misery trickles down from the bosses.

751 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:50:22pm

re: #742 buzzsawmonkey

Antiques Roadshow!

You callin' me old?
/jk

752 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:50:25pm

re: #726 Ward Cleaver

I dunno, but his wardrobe has acquired a Latin American flavor.

Che al-Awfi

753 LGoPs  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:50:39pm

I know we can't just stop paying our taxes, cause they'll take us off to jail, individually.
Would it be worthwhile at all to go to your company's business office and increase your withholdings to the maximum allowed by law. In effect keep more of your money now and keep it from the government? Of course prudence would dictate that you lay the extra amount aside in order to cover your taxes when they come due.
One individual doing this would have no effect, but what if millions did it?
I'm totally unschooled in taxes or the related law but I am also angry and would like to come up with an idea that hits back...even if on'y temporarily......

754 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:50:42pm

re: #740 gmsc

We've gone bust. All we can do now is burn the house down for the insurance money.

755 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:50:43pm

re: #732 Honorary Yooper

I've seen that turd of an idea passed around in leftist circles. The only thing that works is restraint on spending. Harding, Coolidge, and Mellon understood this. Hoover and FDR did not. The recession of 1921 became the Roaring Twenties. The recessions of 1929 and 1937 became the Great Depression. Reagan learned his lessons in 1981 and followed Harding and Mellon rather than FDR. Now we're watching another Hoover and FDR in action.

Lefties think that currency depreciation is an effective way to transfer wealth.

756 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:51:13pm

re: #718 midwestgak

HAHA. Land of Sky Blue Waters. Hamm's. Refreshing!

Here you go:

757 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:51:38pm

re: #740 gmsc

Uncle Barack will bail 'em out!

758 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:51:46pm

re: #673 godfrey

Jackbooted thug! Fascist pig! You probably think making money is a good idea!


I'm still waiting for a sarc tag.
(g-d, I'm hoping someone with this many comments here is just joking. What? Is this a "let's get a rise out of the adolescent lizard" comment? Or did I say something to set you off?)

759 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:51:51pm

re: #697 DeafDog

Ya know, I think all these cheapo beer's are actually made by the same company.


Pyssbuquet Brewery?

760 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:51:55pm

re: #753 LGoPs

I know we can't just stop paying our taxes, cause they'll take us off to jail, individually.
Would it be worthwhile at all to go to your company's business office and increase your withholdings to the maximum allowed by law. In effect keep more of your money now and keep it from the government? Of course prudence would dictate that you lay the extra amount aside in order to cover your taxes when they come due.
One individual doing this would have no effect, but what if millions did it?
I'm totally unschooled in taxes or the related law but I am also angry and would like to come up with an idea that hits back...even if on'y temporarily......

I've been claiming all of the exemptions allowed by law...screw the government. It's my damn money.

761 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:52:01pm

re: #747 HoosierHoops

I saw about the last 20 or 30 minutes of it.. Big game in Texas!

Always a big game in our house...my 14 yo son went nuts...lol

762 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:52:03pm

re: #749 gregg

I loved those commercials when I was growing up. Hamms and Twins baseball - that was summer.

From the land of sky blue waters...Harmon Killabrew...:)

763 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:52:24pm

re: #722 redc1c4

"Kidney Inc."

Heileman Brewing Company was the name back in the 1990s. They were bought out by Hicks & Muse. I don't know what became of the organization after that.

764 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:52:28pm

re: #752 loppyd

Che al-Awfi

La Fabulosa!

765 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:52:56pm

re: #757 Ward Cleaver

Uncle Barack will bail 'em out!

Uncle B should let us twist in the wind. Our own fault for not keeping a clean fiscal house.

766 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:52:57pm

re: #754 acwgusa

We've gone bust. All we can do now is burn the house down for the insurance money.

...at which point the insurance company will send you an IOU for the payment.

767 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:53:21pm

IT'S RAINING CANDY!

768 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:53:22pm

re: #745 Killgore Trout

nice soundtrack.

769 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:53:30pm

re: #759 DaddyG

Pyssbuquet Brewery?

Triple filtered. Once through a horse, once through a skunk, and once through a cow.

770 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:53:44pm

re: #732 Honorary Yooper

The left likes to argue that FDR didn't spend enough, and that was why his policies failed. That suits their agenda. The reality is that increased government spending and regulation crowd out private sector economic recovery. The only question is: Are Obama and his advisers crowding out the private sector with this explosion in spending permanently and deliberately?

771 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:53:53pm

Shhh. What's that I hear? Mi Senora has just uncorked a bottle.

I'm outa here. See y'all later.

772 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:53:55pm

re: #192 eschew_obfuscation

Get your backup generators here .... you too can have reliable power with your new "Bagdad Powermaster".

/made in Iraq, results may vary

Turns out it is only parts of seconds all of the time you are out or asleep.
Not enough to disrupt your alarm clock.
Darn!

773 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:53:55pm

re: #766 gmsc

...at which point the insurance company will send you an IOU for the payment.

I got my IOU check back from the state of Brokeassifornia already. They'll never be able to pay me, especially with interest.

774 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:54:18pm

re: #746 redstateredneck

It's the designer Barbie clothes from the early 60s that bring the big bucks. Dream house, not so much.

775 Ceemack  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:54:18pm

re: #103 Nevergiveup

has anyone told him he canhas to run again?


There are times when he seems to think he's Hugo Chavez, and the job is his for life.

776 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:55:01pm

re: #765 acwgusa

Uncle B should let us twist in the wind. Our own fault for not keeping a clean fiscal house.

With apologies to Elton John:

"It seems to me,
you set your budget
like a candle in the wind.

"Never knowin',
where money came from,
thinkin' capitalism's sin . . ."

777 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:55:05pm

re: #750 vagabond trader

You're right, tho we are a pretty laid back little town. I'm sure the misery trickles down from the bosses.

That's what we've found in our state. The employees are unhappy to sit in a broken process and face the 100th person who's been waiting an hour or more in line only to find out they have the wrong document. A little lean process improvement and training and suddenly we have some very happy citizens and government employees bragging about where they work. (I'm not even going to touch the feds though, that's a whole nother knot to untangle).

778 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:55:28pm

re: #774 vagabond trader

It's the designer Barbie clothes from the early 60s that bring the big bucks. Dream house, not so much.

I had those, too! Of course, they had been played with and not kept in the o-riginal packaging...but still.

779 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:55:46pm

Hey more good news. Chrysler and GM are releasing their financial plans tonight. That should help the market tomorrow.

/

780 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:55:53pm

Remember Michelle saying that $600 couldn't even buy a set of earrings ?
What can I get for $8 a week, Michelle? Michelle ?

781 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:56:10pm
782 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:56:23pm

re: #779 CyanSnowHawk

Hey more good news. Chrysler and GM are releasing their financial plans tonight. That should help the market tomorrow.

/

Step 1: Collect underpants.
Step 3: Big profits!

783 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:56:24pm

re: #779 CyanSnowHawk

Hey more good news. Chrysler and GM are releasing their financial plans tonight. That should help the market tomorrow.

/

Chapter 7 most likely.

784 Suzette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:56:24pm

re: #758 jcw46

I am pretty sure that was sarcasm. :)

785 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:56:26pm

re: #780 SasquatchOnSteroids

Remember Michelle saying that $600 couldn't even buy a set of earrings ?
What can I get for $8 a week, Michelle? Michelle ?

arugula?

786 summergurl  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:56:44pm

re: #736 albusteve

I here ya...an entire breakfast...mmm
and lots of green chile


scrambled eggs, some salsa, a little diced ham in a tortilla - cheap good food

787 n in wi  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:56:49pm

re: #749 gregg

I loved those commercials when I was growing up. Hamms and Twins baseball - that was summer.

At the old Met?

788 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:56:56pm

re: #774 vagabond trader

It's the designer Barbie clothes from the early 60s that bring the big bucks. Dream house, not so much.

I had a Barbie that looked just like Lucy. Red hair pulled up into a ponytail and a dress with a flared skirt.

789 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:56:57pm

re: #770 quickjustice

The left likes to argue that FDR didn't spend enough, and that was why his policies failed. That suits their agenda. The reality is that increased government spending and regulation crowd out private sector economic recovery. The only question is: Are Obama and his advisers crowding out the private sector with this explosion in spending permanently and deliberately?

The I cordially welcome everyone to the Obamadepression. :-P
If it sinks, let's make him own it.

790 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:57:08pm

re: #783 acwgusa

Chapter 7 most likely.

Which one is that? Reorg?

791 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:57:26pm

re: #781 loppyd

Oh goody!

Signing Stimulus Bill, Obama Does Not Rule Out Another

You can't eat just one Lay's bucket of poison.

792 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:57:36pm

re: #786 summergurl

scrambled eggs, some salsa, a little diced ham in a tortilla - cheap good food


And it's "to go". What's not to love?

793 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:57:41pm

re: #778 redstateredneck

I had those, too! Of course, they had been played with and not kept in the o-riginal packaging...but still.

What is the value of an unopened Barbie compared to the memories of having GI Joe kidnap her and strap her to an M-80? You just can't buy that kind of warm fuzzy rememberance of youth.

794 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:57:42pm

re: #778 redstateredneck

Mama gave mine away to a little girl up the street who had less than us. I couldn't fault her for it, but dang, could use the extra $$$. All those yummy little outfits, lol.

795 n in wi  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:57:53pm

re: #763 DeafDog

Heileman Brewing Company was the name back in the 1990s. They were bought out by Hicks & Muse. I don't know what became of the organization after that.

I believe the time is right to bust out Billy Beer.

796 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:57:54pm

re: #782 OldLineTexan

Step 1: Collect underpants.
Step 3: Big profits!

I shudder to ask, but what's step #2

797 summergurl  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:57:57pm

re: #773 acwgusa

I got my IOU check back from the state of Brokeassifornia already. They'll never be able to pay me, especially with interest.


Question - Can you pay 2009 taxes with a 2008 IOU?

798 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:58:04pm

re: #783 acwgusa

Chapter 7 most likely.

No, Chapter 11 would be more likely.

799 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:58:16pm

re: #790 CyanSnowHawk

Which one is that? Reorg?

11 is reorg

800 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:58:18pm

re: #790 CyanSnowHawk

Liquidation of Assets, going out of business.

801 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:58:30pm

re: #791 OldLineTexan

You can't eat just one Lay's bucket of poison.

I wonder what goes better with poison, tortilla chips or ritz crackers?

802 Guanxi88  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:58:33pm

re: #782 OldLineTexan

Step 1: Collect underpants.
Step 3: Big profits!

Classic South Park!

803 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:58:42pm

re: #775 Ceemack

There are times when he seems to think he's Hugo Chavez, and the job is his for life.

"Life" is relative in terms of length.

804 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:58:48pm

re: #798 Honorary Yooper

No, Chapter 11 would be more likely.

I know, I was being extremely pessimistic.

805 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:58:52pm

Mr. President, Chicago called and they want their grifter equipment back.

806 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:58:54pm

re: #799 jorline

11 is reorg

Thanks. Gotta go. Work calls.

807 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:58:55pm

re: #780 SasquatchOnSteroids

Now you know that talk like that is not helpful for the children.

808 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:59:08pm

re: #796 Dustyvet

I shudder to ask, but what's step #2

I don't know but it probably involved a lot of hand lotion.

809 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:59:10pm

re: #655 acwgusa

I hear Las Vegas and Detroit are now the two most abandoned cities in the U.S.

re: #741 gregg

The difference is the abandoned homes in Vegas you could actually live in, where the abandoned homes in Detroit are burnt out shells or have deteriorated to the point where you can't live in 'em (or you'd get shot dead if you did).

Another difference is that Las Vegas has gone from vibrant to less vibrant. Detroit has gone from stagnant to nearly barren. The amount of drop may be the same, but the scale is different.

Before all this, was the fastest-growing housing market in the US. Home prices have to come down now, and tourism is dropping, so casinos are cutting staff, but it's not like Vegas is turning into a ghost town.

Also, people who do visit Vegas now are getting better deals, more comps, and so on, as the casinos try to woo customers back.

810 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:59:19pm

Well I'm out of here for a bit.

811 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:59:32pm

re: #796 Dustyvet

I shudder to ask, but what's step #2

I dunno.

Hey Barry, what's Step 2?
Step 3, big profits!
I know, but what's Step 2?
What?

/South Park

812 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:59:45pm

re: #809 gmsc

Another difference is that Las Vegas has gone from vibrant to less vibrant. Detroit has gone from stagnant to nearly barren. The amount of drop may be the same, but the scale is different.

Before all this, was the fastest-growing housing market in the US. Home prices have to come down now, and tourism is dropping, so casinos are cutting staff, but it's not like Vegas is turning into a ghost town.

Also, people who do visit Vegas now are getting better deals, more comps, and so on, as the casinos try to woo customers back.

I have a house in escrow in Vegas, so Yah me.

813 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:59:53pm

re: #657 Killgore Trout

More thirsty Koalas...

I sent some money to the RC Victorian Bushfire Appeal the other day. I guess the reports from aussiemagpie and Crux Australis moved me to donate.

814 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 1:59:56pm

re: #795 n in wi

I believe the time is right to bust out Billy Beer.

Timing may be perfect.

What's Obama's 1/2 brother's name? He could hawk it. He work's for $10 a week.

815 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:00:01pm

re: #793 DaddyG

What is the value of an unopened Barbie compared to the memories of having GI Joe kidnap her and strap her to an M-80? You just can't buy that kind of warm fuzzy rememberance of youth.

See, that's how boys play with dolls. My friend's brother wrote "Go to the moon" in ballpoint pen across her Chatty Cathy. What was the point of that? Other than to hear us screaming and wailing?

816 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:00:03pm

re: #783 acwgusa

Chapter 7 most likely.

Why do you suggest Chapter 7 (liquidation)? Wouldn't Chapter 11 (restructuring) make more sense?

817 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:00:04pm

re: #808 DaddyG

I don't know but it probably involved a lot of hand lotion.


"shudder"...:)

818 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:00:08pm

re: #801 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I wonder what goes better with poison, tortilla chips or ritz crackers?

EVERYTHING'S better when it sitz on a Ritz!

/let's go out in STYLE

819 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:00:39pm

re: #807 vagabond trader

Now you know that talk like that is not helpful for the children.

Spoof das children!

/Benny Hill

820 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:00:55pm

re: #816 eschew_obfuscation

I was being sarcastic. It wasn't a suggestion on my part. A dry wit joke that woke up wet.

821 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:01:01pm

re: #764 Ward Cleaver

La Fabulosa!

Soon his image will be hung on college dorm room walls! And Obama HQs!

822 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:01:14pm

re: #787 n in wi

At the old Met?

Yup, back when tailgating was more of an attraction then the game.

823 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:01:16pm

re: #794 vagabond trader

Mama gave mine away to a little girl up the street who had less than us. I couldn't fault her for it, but dang, could use the extra $$$. All those yummy little outfits, lol.

I got a hundred bucks for all my Barbie collection. That was a lot of moolah back then.

824 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:01:38pm
825 SurferDoc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:01:50pm

re: #717 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Don't forget about Big Joe. He went with Kelly and Oddball to deal with the Tiger.

/Someone has to know that reference.

Oh, yes!

/Clint

826 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:01:57pm

re: #781 loppyd

Oh goody!

Signing Stimulus Bill, Obama Does Not Rule Out Another

If at first you don't fail, try, try again.

827 n in wi  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:01:58pm

re: #814 DeafDog

Timing may be perfect.

What's Obama's 1/2 brother's name? He could hawk it. He work's for $10 a week.

O's brother is named George.
George beer could cause some confision, but it may be fun.

828 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:02:06pm

re: #815 redstateredneck

See, that's how boys play with dolls. My friend's brother wrote "Go to the moon" in ballpoint pen across her Chatty Cathy. What was the point of that? Other than to hear us screaming and wailing?

heh.

829 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:02:09pm

re: #815 redstateredneck

See, that's how boys play with dolls. My friend's brother wrote "Go to the moon" in ballpoint pen across her Chatty Cathy. What was the point of that? Other than to hear us screaming and wailing?

We were equal opportunity. My GI Joe could fly the width of four suburban yards (1/2 acre) while being fired from a slingshot made out of my swing set and a giant sewer seal (think 12 foot long rubber band).

830 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:02:30pm

re: #795 n in wi

I believe the time is right to bust out Billy Beer.


Hey, that's an idea for Obama's brother who lives in the hut in Kenya. He can sell out to some beer company and strike it rich!

831 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:02:35pm

re: #812 acwgusa

I have a house in escrow in Vegas, so Yah me.

I bought my house and was able to pay it in full - boy is that the best move I ever made!

How was I able to pay it in full? I used the down payment I received when selling my house in California back in 2000. Yep - CA down payment = NV house price.

832 opnion  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:02:42pm

re: #781 loppyd

Oh goody!

Signing Stimulus Bill, Obama Does Not Rule Out Another

Which is why the UAW is not willing to make concessions to the auto mfgrs. They know that more cash will be on the way.
Obama economics= 'We can't drill our way out of our energy problem, but we can just spend our way out of the financial mess"

833 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:03:01pm

Gifts For The Teacher

It was at the end of the school year, and a kindergarten teacher was receiving gifts from her pupils.

The florist's son handed her a gift. She shook it, held it overhead, and said, "I bet I know what it is. Some flowers." "

That's right" the boy said, "but how did you know?"

"Oh, just a wild guess," she said.

The next pupil was the candy shop owner's daughter.

The teacher held her gift overhead, shook it, and said, "I bet I can guess what it is. A box of sweets."

"That's right, but how did you know?" asked the girl.

"Oh, just a wild guess," said the teacher.

The next gift was from the son of the liquor store owner. The teacher held the package overhead, but it was leaking. She touched a drop of the leakage with her finger and touched it to her tongue.

"Is it wine?" she asked.

"No," the boy replied, with some excitement.

The teacher repeated the process, taking a larger drop of the leakage to her tongue.

"Is it champagne?" she asked.

"No," the boy replied, with more excitement.

The teacher took one more taste before declaring, "I give up, what is it?"

With great glee, the boy replied, "It's a puppy!"

834 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:03:12pm

re: #814 DeafDog

Timing may be perfect.

What's Obama's 1/2 brother's name? He could hawk it. He work's for $10 a week.

Half of Zero is Zero.

So I guess his name is Barack.

835 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:03:12pm

re: #830 redstateredneck

Hey, that's an idea for Obama's brother who lives in the hut in Kenya. He can sell out to some beer company and strike it rich!

And Auntie Zinfandel wine....

836 Racer X  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:03:19pm

Race for 'God particle' heats up

Europe's particle physics lab, Cern, is losing ground rapidly in the race to discover the elusive Higgs boson, or "God particle", its US rival claims.

The particle, whose existence has been predicted by theoreticians, would help to explain why matter has mass. Finding the Higgs is a major goal of Cern's Large Hadron Collider (LHC).

But the US Fermilab says the odds of its Tevatron accelerator detecting the famed particle first are now 50-50 at worst, and up to 96% at best.

Both machines hope to see evidence of the Higgs by colliding sub-atomic matter at very high speeds. If it exists, the Higgs should emerge from the debris.

The LHC has been out of action since last September when an accident damaged some of the magnets that make up its giant colliding ring.

837 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:03:23pm

re: #808 DaddyG

I don't know but it probably involved a lot of hand lotion.

Jerkins lotion?

838 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:03:32pm

re: #815 redstateredneck

See, that's how boys play with dolls. My friend's brother wrote "Go to the moon" in ballpoint pen across her Chatty Cathy. What was the point of that? Other than to hear us screaming and wailing?

My brother broke my Chatty Cathy in a "flying" incident....

839 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:03:37pm

We must destroy the economy by stimulating it.

/I'm Obama and I'm here to help

840 heidi586  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:03:41pm

The only truthful comment made by Obama today was "This is the beginning of the end".

841 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:03:56pm

re: #832 opnion

Which is why the UAW is not willing to make concessions to the auto mfgrs. They know that more cash will be on the way.
Obama economics= 'We can't drill our way out of our energy problem, but we can just spend our way out of the financial mess"

I am stealing that!

842 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:03:57pm

re: #814 DeafDog

Timing may be perfect.

What's Obama's 1/2 brother's name? He could hawk it. He work's for $10 a week.

GMTA!

843 Pietr  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:04:07pm

re: #824 razorbacker

Does that include us old farts?

/white smoke.....

844 HippieforLife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:04:07pm

re: #124 redheadredstate

Being a lass of Scottish ancestry I thought this quote from MacBeth would be appropriate to the situation:

“It is a tale … full of sound and fury; signifying nothing.”

Of course, this quote is not only appropo to the great and powerful O's speech regarding the porkulus bill but appropo anytime that creature opens it's jaws.

Don't forget the part "a tale told by an idot". Perfectly describes the O.

845 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:04:12pm

re: #833 Dustyvet

So you're saying Unca Barack bought us a puppy?

Or are we just holding the bag?

846 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:04:21pm

re: #798 Honorary Yooper

Correct. If the automakers file bankruptcy, they'll file Chapter 11 reorganization. That enables them to reject all of their bad supplier and union contracts. They can slim down, reorganize, and come back leaner and meaner for global competition. That assumes of course, that current corporate leadership is competent to do that.

And don't forget, they have the Obama Administration as a backstop. They've already borrowed billions from the government. In the new fascist environment, I wouldn't be surprised to see a deepening of this "private-public" fascist partnership.

847 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:04:52pm

re: #833 Dustyvet

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

848 UberInfidel67  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:04:55pm

re: #634 Killgore Trout Tell them to look for it over the night skies of Israel.

849 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:05:09pm

re: #838 wrenchwench

My brother broke my Chatty Cathy in a "flying" incident....

On the plus side we got quite the smackdown from my friends sister followed by a long lecture from his mother. I have treated women with great respect since then.

850 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:05:26pm

Apparently a share of the nyslimes cost less than the Sunday edition.
YEA!

851 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:05:38pm

re: #836 Racer X

Race for 'God particle' heats up

Europe's particle physics lab, Cern, is losing ground rapidly in the race to discover the elusive Higgs boson, or "God particle", its US rival claims.

The particle, whose existence has been predicted by theoreticians, would help to explain why matter has mass. Finding the Higgs is a major goal of Cern's Large Hadron Collider (LHC).

But the US Fermilab says the odds of its Tevatron accelerator detecting the famed particle first are now 50-50 at worst, and up to 96% at best.

Both machines hope to see evidence of the Higgs by colliding sub-atomic matter at very high speeds. If it exists, the Higgs should emerge from the debris.

The LHC has been out of action since last September when an accident damaged some of the magnets that make up its giant colliding ring.

Yeah, what I got a charge out of (pun intended) is that with all of the alternative energy touted by some Europeans and the American left, they can't run the LHC in the winter because it uses too much power ;~)

852 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:05:41pm

re: #717 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Don't forget about Big Joe. He went with Kelly and Oddball to deal with the Tiger.

/Someone has to know that reference.

Woof! Woof!

853 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:05:51pm

re: #841 loppyd

I am stealing that!

It's just too bad we can't power our county on stupidity. It's limitless, and we have a supply just waiting to be tapped all across the nation in State Capitols!

854 TheMatrix31  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:06:05pm

What's this I heard about Rahm Emanuel having tax issues too?

855 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:06:08pm

re: #845 OldLineTexan

So you're saying Unca Barack bought us a puppy?

Or are we just holding the bag?


Holding the bag...

856 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:06:24pm

Idiot CT elitists keeping a chimp as a pet.

857 opnion  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:06:33pm

re: #841 loppyd

I am stealing that!

With my compliments.

858 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:06:48pm

re: #838 wrenchwench

My brother broke my Chatty Cathy in a "flying" incident....

It hit the wall - after which we called it Chatty Cathy Bang Bang!

859 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:06:56pm

re: #846 quickjustice

Correct. If the automakers file bankruptcy, they'll file Chapter 11 reorganization. That enables them to reject all of their bad supplier and union contracts. They can slim down, reorganize, and come back leaner and meaner for global competition. That assumes of course, that current corporate leadership is competent to do that.

And don't forget, they have the Obama Administration as a backstop. They've already borrowed billions from the government. In the new fascist environment, I wouldn't be surprised to see a deepening of this "private-public" fascist partnership.

... been reading Ledeen? ;~)

860 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:06:59pm

OT: Presidential left-handedness website here: [Link: voize.my...]

Turn out "W" is right-handed. Reagan was likely a lefty, but was "switched" to right-handed as a child. Interesting stuff.

861 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:07:20pm

Thank you Chicken Little, Mr. Negativity, Pollyanna’s Evil Twin in Chief, your incessant talking down of the economy helps a lot, asshole.

/I'm Obama and I'm here to help

862 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:07:21pm

re: #856 vagabond trader

Idiot CT elitists keeping a chimp as a pet.

TWO HUNDRED POUND chimp.

Good grief.

863 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:07:27pm

re: #843 Pietr

Does that include us old farts?

/white smoke.....

Hope so. I'm not so very far behind you.

864 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:07:45pm

re: #853 acwgusa

Capitals? :)

865 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:07:52pm

Letter From The Tooth Fairy

Dear _________________ :

Thank you for leaving one [1] tooth under your pillow last night.


While we make every attempt to leave a monetary reward in the case of lost or stolen children's teeth, we were unable to process your request for the following reason(s) indicated below:

( ) the tooth could not be found

( ) it was not a human tooth

( ) we do not think that pieces of chicken bone are very funny

( ) we were unable to approach the tooth due to excessive odor

( ) the tooth has previously been redeemed for cash

( ) the tooth did not originally belong to you

( ) the tooth fairy does not process fingernails

( ) your request has been forwarded to the Nerve Ending Fairy for appropriate action

( ) you were overheard to state that you do not believe in the tooth fairy

( ) you are age 12 or older at the time your request was received

( ) the tooth is still in your mouth

( ) the tooth was guarded by a vicious fairy-eating dog at the time of our visit

( ) no night light was on at the time of our visit

( ) the snacks provided for the tooth fairy were not satisfactory, or were missing

( ) we discovered evidence of unsafe tooth extraction as follows:

[ ] string

[ ] pliers

[ ] gunpowder

[ ] hammer
marks

[ ] chisel

[ ] part of skull
attached to tooth

[ ] no dental care

( ) other:


Thank you for your request, and we look forward to serving you in the future.


Sincerely, The Tooth Fairy

866 DeafDog  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:08:12pm

re: #834 OldLineTexan

Half of Zero is Zero.

So I guess his name is Barack.

Barak Beer has that alliteration thing going, too.

867 DaddyG  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:08:33pm

re: #864 midwestgak

Capitals? :)

Depends- is he talking about the area or the building?

868 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:08:51pm

re: #854 TheMatrix31

What's this I heard about Rahm Emanuel having tax issues too?

Somebody here posted links today.

869 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:09:04pm

re: #862 OldLineTexan

TWO HUNDRED POUND chimp.

Good grief.


I never trusted chimps or monkey as pets. Creep me out.

870 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:09:39pm

re: #867 DaddyG

Depends- is he talking about the area or the building?

Either/or. Stupidity is free floating.

871 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:09:51pm

re: #869 redstateredneck

I never trusted chimps or monkey as pets. Creep me out.

I have kids.

/no apes needed

872 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:09:53pm

re: #865 Dustyvet

My older daugher put puppy teeth under her pillow. Tooth Fairy did not pay up.

873 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:10:06pm

Chrysler announced today they need 5 billion more in stimulus money and they will cut another 3000 jobs.

874 opnion  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:10:16pm

re: #846 quickjustice

Correct. If the automakers file bankruptcy, they'll file Chapter 11 reorganization. That enables them to reject all of their bad supplier and union contracts. They can slim down, reorganize, and come back leaner and meaner for global competition. That assumes of course, that current corporate leadership is competent to do that.

And don't forget, they have the Obama Administration as a backstop. They've already borrowed billions from the government. In the new fascist environment, I wouldn't be surprised to see a deepening of this "private-public" fascist partnership.

Yeah , but the whole auto bailout was a UAW bailout, the Democrats made that clear. The Feds have their hooks into the auto companies.
If they try to reject their Union contracts , the government willl make things most unpleasant for them.

875 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:10:27pm

re: #856 vagabond trader

It's tragic that the CT chimp seriously injured that neighbor, but idiotic that the city of Stamford, CT permitted a wild animal to roam freely. The police commissioner is screaming "We didn't know it was dangerous", even though there have been prior incidents. That's because if the city of Stamford knew that the chimp was dangerous, and permitted it to continue to roam, the city's liable!

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch! It'd be fun to be the plaintiff's lawyer on that case!

876 razorbacker  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:10:33pm

To hell with it.

I'm gonna go watch the episode of 24 that I recorded last night, eat some pizza, dream of better days.

See y'all later.

877 kyleb  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:10:46pm

He should just be a college professor and join the ranks of the already protected and subsidized liberals.

878 HippieforLife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:10:51pm

re: #719 quickjustice

Hmmm. I've noticed that Obama is left-handed. When Bush the Elder debated Clinton and Perot, they all started writing after the debate concluded. All three were left-handed.

Is "W" left-handed? Is there a presidential sinister-handedness thing going on here?

Uh, no. Don't you know that left handed people are in their right mind?!
I can tell that's true. I am left handed and in my right thinking mind!

879 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:10:55pm

re: #854 TheMatrix31

What's this I heard about Rahm Emanuel having tax issues too?

Here you go. From the NY Post.

880 Idle Drifter  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:11:04pm

re: #781 loppyd

Oh goody!

Signing Stimulus Bill, Obama Does Not Rule Out Another

Crap on a cracker in the middle of August.

881 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:11:19pm

re: #846 quickjustice

Correct. If the automakers file bankruptcy, they'll file Chapter 11 reorganization. That enables them to reject all of their bad supplier and union contracts. They can slim down, reorganize, and come back leaner and meaner for global competition. That assumes of course, that current corporate leadership is competent to do that.

And don't forget, they have the Obama Administration as a backstop. They've already borrowed billions from the government. In the new fascist environment, I wouldn't be surprised to see a deepening of this "private-public" fascist partnership.

CNBC: UAW reaches agreement with automakers.

882 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:11:26pm

re: #873 jorline

Chrysler announced today they need 5 billion more in stimulus money and they will cut another 3000 jobs.

that's $1.6 million/job?

883 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:11:27pm

re: #862 OldLineTexan

TWO HUNDRED POUND chimp.

Good grief.

One forth of the gorilla in the room.

884 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:11:30pm

I wonder if there will be a ticker for "saved" jobs?

Tracking Your Stimulus Dollars

HERE is the new up and running Recovery.gov website, where the Obama administration says taxpayers can follow how the $787 billion stimulus funds are spent.

The promise: “As soon as the first dollars start to go out, you’ll be able to track where the money is going.”

We will try to hold them to that.

I am really digging Jake Tapper these days.

885 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:11:42pm

re: #514 gregg

They stopped trading on both the MICEX and RTS exchanges today - lock limit down.

Great, just friggin great...Russia's been on a currency watch for last 2-to-3 weeks and the natives are extremely restless.

Something wicked comes this way.

886 TheMatrix31  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:11:44pm

re: #879 Ward Cleaver

Here you go. From the NY Post.

Thank you, Ward.

More corruption in the Obama Administration? Color me shocked!

887 Wendya  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:11:57pm

re: #854 TheMatrix31

What's this I heard about Rahm Emanuel having tax issues too?

[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

888 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:12:04pm

re: #873 jorline

Chrysler announced today they need 5 billion more in stimulus money and they will cut another 3000 jobs.

Obama's losing ground pretty fast. Spend 25 billion, lose 3000 jobs. When's he going to start 'saving or creating 3 million jobs'?

Oh, and by what metric will we know when he's saved 3 million jobs?

889 Pietr  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:12:06pm

re: #860 quickjustice

OT: Presidential left-handedness website here: [Link: voize.my...]

Turn out "W" is right-handed. Reagan was likely a lefty, but was "switched" to right-handed as a child. Interesting stuff.

Tell me you aren't hung up on Kragars' "Get rid of Left Handers" post....You know he was JK, right?

890 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:12:26pm

re: #866 DeafDog

Barak Beer has that alliteration thing going, too.


George Hussein Onyango Obama
So many possibilities.

891 n in wi  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:12:39pm

re: #872 redstateredneck

My older daugher put puppy teeth under her pillow. Tooth Fairy did not pay up.

How did the puppy make out?

892 opnion  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:12:48pm

re: #861 Killian Bundy

Thank you Chicken Little, Mr. Negativity, Pollyanna’s Evil Twin in Chief, your incessant talking down of the economy helps a lot, asshole.

/I'm Obama and I'm here to help

What happened to all of the upbeat campaign talk? He made it sound so easy, just vote for him, the man with the plan. Si se puede!

893 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:12:52pm

re: #781 loppyd

I picked up on that too. Atlas Shrugged (1957)

894 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:12:56pm

re: #858 gmsc

It hit the wall - after which we called it Chatty Cathy Bang Bang!

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was my first experience of a book being ruined in the movie version. The movie wasn't bad, I guess, but I loved the book, and couldn't understand at the time why they would screw it up like that.

895 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:13:19pm

re: #888 eschew_obfuscation

Obama's losing ground pretty fast. Spend 25 billion, lose 3000 jobs. When's he going to start 'saving or creating 3 million jobs'?

Oh, and by what metric will we know when he's saved 3 million jobs?

He'll just come out one day and say so.
All of his syncophants will buy it 100% and, if you don't you'll be accused of ''racism,'' or something. /

896 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:13:22pm

Geronimo's Great Grandson Asks Yale Secret Society to Return Ancestor's Skull

On the 100th anniversary of the death of Geronimo, 20 of his blood relatives have asked the courts to force Yale University and the school's secret organization, Skull and Bones, to release his remains for return to his native land and a proper burial.

The lawsuit also names President Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Army Secretary Pete Geren as defendants because they are responsible for maintaining Geronimo's remains on a U.S. Army base in Oklahoma, the group said.

/surprised it took this long

897 Kragar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:13:26pm

re: #884 loppyd

I wonder if there will be a ticker for "saved" jobs?

Tracking Your Stimulus Dollars


I am really digging Jake Tapper these days.

His days are numbered. Taupe shirts will see to that.

898 vagabond trader  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:13:36pm

re: #875 quickjustice

I thought the same and assume the owners are wealthy azzholes. Older chimps are known to be ill tempered so the medication made him do it is rubbish.

899 Dustyvet  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:13:47pm

re: #880 Idle Drifter

Crap on a cracker in the middle of August.

So we should then assume that not everything tastes good on a Ritz?

/////S//////

900 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:14:01pm

re: #896 Killian Bundy

Geronimo's Great Grandson Asks Yale Secret Society to Return Ancestor's Skull


/surprised it took this long

This, too, is Bush's fault.

/

901 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:14:18pm

re: #858 gmsc

It hit the wall - after which we called it Chatty Cathy Bang Bang!


[Video]

My sister had one of those, and an original Easy-Bake Oven.

902 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:14:23pm
903 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:14:51pm

re: #902 buzzsawmonkey

He was a chimpion.

He coulda been a contendape!

904 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:14:52pm

re: #897 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

His days are numbered. Taupe shirts will see to that.

Georgie boy probably gets an earful about him when he consults with the O Administration....

905 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:15:01pm

Look on the bright side.
There will be a whole string of "Happy Days Are Here Again" musicals coming out to distract us from our troubles.
It worked in the 1930s.............didn't it?

/then they got Hitler.......

906 gymmom  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:15:03pm

re: #631 Silhouette

I think champagne pairs well with salty foods.

907 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:15:03pm

re: #865 Dustyvet

Sounds like the form letters you get from the Post Office when they don't feel like processing your letters but take them from you anyway.

908 NearOcean  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:15:07pm

might as well try and get a couple of slices of this pork, with gravy of course..... I know very very cynical

909 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:15:42pm
910 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:15:52pm

re: #889 Pietr

I'm left-handed myself, so I don't favor getting rid of me! ;-)

But explain. "JK"?

911 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:15:56pm

Let's face it, Michael freakin' Jackson CARRIED "Bubbles" around.

I only outweight that (former) chimp by 15 pounds.

Sheesh.

912 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:15:58pm

re: #893 midwestgak

I picked up on that too. Atlas Shrugged (1957)

This is the first of 4 excellent "This is John Galt speaking . . ." videos. Click here to see all 4 together.

913 Silhouette  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:15:58pm

re: #888 eschew_obfuscation

Oh, and by what metric will we know when he's saved 3 million jobs?

When he has grown the state by 5 million jobs and "only" lost 2 million private sector?

914 Ben Hur  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:16:08pm
915 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:16:10pm
916 midwestgak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:16:22pm

re: #901 Ward Cleaver

My sister had one of those, and an original Easy-Bake Oven.

They really baked using a little regular light bulb! I guess newly manufactured ovens will use those greenie mercury-filled bulbs. lol

917 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:17:08pm

re: #910 quickjustice

I'm left-handed myself, so I don't favor getting rid of me! ;-)

But explain. "JK"?

It's either "Just Kidding" or a ruined autograph from the Harry Potter author.

918 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:17:14pm

re: #891 n in wi

How did the puppy make out?

He barked with an impediment...no, seriously, they were just baby teeth. She swore she only pulled them out when they "were hangin' by a thread".

919 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:17:19pm

re: #913 Silhouette

When he has grown the state by 5 million jobs and "only" lost 2 million private sector?

Stop it! That's just obscene. (but probably true)

920 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:17:26pm

re: #874 opnion

The fascist deal that will be struck will take care of the unions. They're part of that "partnership", you know.

921 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:17:35pm

Forgot to mention this before.

I have no link to the sound, but when Barry started addressing his adoring fans in Denver today he thanked Joe Biden and said he's the best VP we've had "in a long time." Classy, huh?

922 gregg  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:17:42pm

re: #885 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Great, just friggin great...Russia's been on a currency watch for last 2-to-3 weeks and the natives are extremely restless.

Something wicked comes this way.

Not just Russia, all the Eastern European currencies are in deep trouble.

Ambrose Evans-Pritchard:

The unfolding debt drama in Russia, Ukraine, and the EU states of Eastern Europe has reached acute danger point.

If mishandled by the world policy establishment, this debacle is big enough to shatter the fragile banking systems of Western Europe and set off round two of our financial Götterdämmerung.

In Poland, 60pc of mortgages are in Swiss francs. The zloty has just halved against the franc. Hungary, the Balkans, the Baltics, and Ukraine are all suffering variants of this story. As an act of collective folly – by lenders and borrowers – it matches America's sub-prime debacle. There is a crucial difference, however. European banks are on the hook for both. US banks are not.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

923 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:18:17pm

re: #918 redstateredneck

He barked with an impediment...no, seriously, they were just baby teeth. She swore she only pulled them out when they "were hangin' by a thread".

Our poodle pup is currently four-fanged on top.

He's starting to worry me.

924 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:18:45pm

re: #882 IslandLibertarian

that's $1.6 million/job?

I want to know how many are left working at Chrysler.

Quit coming back to the trough...reorganize, clean-up your mess and let's see what happens.
What changes have been made since the last loan? I've cut my business overhead to the bone and no one is bailing me out.

925 Maui Girl  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:18:55pm

Prez Obama speaks:

"Same shit, new day! Say Aloha (also means goodbye) to all your hard-earned bucks and say Aloha (also means hello) to my new world order. Hail socialism."

oh, and -- Hang Loose, Brah!

926 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:19:32pm

re: #896 Killian Bundy

Hmmm. Both Bush, Bush the Elder, and Kerry are members of Skull and Bones at Yale. Lots of former CIA as well, including Buckley, IIRC.

927 Idle Drifter  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:19:56pm

re: #899 Dustyvet

So we should then assume that not everything tastes good on a Ritz?

/////S//////

At this rate of spending, we'll no longer be able to afford shit sandwiches.

//s//

928 right_wing2  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:20:09pm

There's no pork in this bill. The Chosen One said so.

I wonder what the odds are in Vegas on the Dow hitting 5500?

929 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:20:14pm

re: #925 Maui Girl

Prez Obama speaks:

"Same shit, new day! Say Aloha (also means goodbye) to all your hard-earned bucks and say Aloha (also means hello) to my new world order. Hail socialism."

oh, and -- Hang Loose, Brah!

If he grows a mullet and tells me to "Get right with Jesus" I am going to die.

930 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:20:27pm

re: #4 thedopefishlives

Hope. Change. ARUGULA FOR ALL!

/What?

Does he think he can just print all the aruglula he wants? What does he think, it grows on trees or something?

Probably it does, in unicornland.

931 opnion  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:20:35pm

I hope that the harm that Obama & his accomplices are doing to the economy is not irreparable. I have my doubts.
I am not an economist, but from all that I recall form studying Micro & Macro and the rest, what is going on is very ill advised & dangerous.

932 gmsc  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:20:47pm

re: #922 gregg

Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Isn't that the guy who wrote the poetry book that was being studied in Dead Poets Society?
;)

933 Pietr  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:21:27pm

re: #910 quickjustice

I'm left-handed myself, so I don't favor getting rid of me! ;-)

But explain. "JK"?

'Just Kidding'-like most internet acronyms, fairly well recognized, Amigo. Like TMI-Too Much Info, which I often do.....:>))

934 redstateredneck  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:21:33pm

re: #923 OldLineTexan

Our poodle pup is currently four-fanged on top.

He's starting to worry me.


The dachshund pack have all aged to the point where they are missing teeth. They really do look like redneck dogs. Not a set of front teeth between the three of them.
:-)

935 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:21:59pm

re: #915 taxfreekiller

In a fascist economy, the government picks the corporate winners and losers. The market hasn't yet adjusted to that reality. When the market can identify those companies the government ha selected for success, their stocks will rise.

And now you know how to invest in the new fascist economy! ;-)

936 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:22:00pm

re: #888 eschew_obfuscation

Obama's losing ground pretty fast. Spend 25 billion, lose 3000 jobs. When's he going to start 'saving or creating 3 million jobs'?

Oh, and by what metric will we know when he's saved 3 million jobs?

Tax payers will buying the new government fleet cars from GM and Chrysler. Ford didn't ask for any money and will be left out in the cold.

937 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:22:23pm

re: #896 Killian Bundy

Geronimo's Great Grandson Asks Yale Secret Society to Return Ancestor's Skull


How can they prove that the bones are his? Is there documentation? Witnesses? Testimony?
Much as I can see their point/right to want them back. There would have to be more facts to back the claim that Skull and Bones has them. What if someone got the bones from some other dead person and CLAIMED they were Geronimo's? It will be interesting to see what happens.

938 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:22:27pm

re: #916 midwestgak

They really baked using a little regular light bulb! I guess newly manufactured ovens will use those greenie mercury-filled bulbs. lol

Those suckers don't get hot enough.

939 Soona'  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:22:27pm

re: #888 eschew_obfuscation

Obama's losing ground pretty fast. Spend 25 billion, lose 3000 jobs. When's he going to start 'saving or creating 3 million jobs'?

Oh, and by what metric will we know when he's saved 3 million jobs?

When only 3 million Americans have jobs.

940 loppyd  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:22:29pm

Lord Rove on Today Show this morning responding to Axelrod's comments about him:

(in case you missed it Axelrod said "You know, the last thing that I think we're looking for at this juncture is advice on fiscal integrity or ethics from Karl Rove. I've never seen anything really like it . . .")

LAUER: How do you respond to that? Do you have credibility on this subject?

ROVE: Well, first of all — look — I’m not giving them advice. I’m commenting on what they’re doing. I’m sure even this White House would say that people have a right to offer an opinion.

tee hee

941 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:22:53pm
942 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:23:04pm

re: #937 jcw46

How can they prove that the bones are his? Is there documentation? Witnesses? Testimony?
Much as I can see their point/right to want them back. There would have to be more facts to back the claim that Skull and Bones has them. What if someone got the bones from some other dead person and CLAIMED they were Geronimo's? It will be interesting to see what happens.

DNA should be simple enough.

943 Zimriel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:24:05pm

re: #781 loppyd

Oh goody!

Signing Stimulus Bill, Obama Does Not Rule Out Another

Of course not. The emergency is the whole point. If there wasn't an emergency "hope" would be unnecessary and, why should anything "change"?

For Obama, this bill is "a good start."

Meanwhile, from the State Department: congratulations, citizensHugo!

944 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:24:14pm

re: #930 itellu3times

Does he think he can just print all the aruglula he wants? What does he think, it grows on trees or something?

Probably it does, in unicornland.

Arugula on every plate, and a digital converter box on every TV!

945 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:24:16pm

re: #933 Pietr

Hey, don't dump on me for my mere illiteracy! ;-)

946 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:24:36pm

re: #941 buzzsawmonkey

Man goes to his rabbi, says, "Rabbi, I'm at the end of my rope. My business is doing poorly, life is terrible, I just don't know what to do."

The rabbi replies, "Well, you need to consult the Torah."

"Yes," says the man impatiently, "I'm sure I do. But I'm not a learned man, Rabbi, and I've come to you for guidance."

"Just open the book and look," says the rabbi. "It's all good."

The man leaves, muttering angrily under his breath that the rabbi was no help. Next time the rabbi sees him, the man comes up, all smiles. "So," says the rabbi, "Did you take my advice?"

"Well, Rabbi," says the man, "When I left you before I thought your advice was pretty much useless. But when I got home, I figured, well, what did I have to lose? So I opened the book like you said, and right there in front of me was the answer to all my problems; Chapter 11!"

Bankruptcy humor. Heh.

947 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:24:46pm

re: #896 Killian Bundy

Geronimo's Great Grandson Asks Yale Secret Society to Return Ancestor's Skull

/surprised it took this long

There are a couple of odd things about that story. First, locally they are saying they want the remains from Fort Sill to bury in the Gila Wilderness, where Geronimo was born. No mention of a skull, nor of Skull and Bones.

Second, in the article you linked, they didn't mention moving the rest of the remains.

Third, a woman is quoted in that article, speaking for Yale, and her name is Gila!

Wierod.

948 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:24:55pm

re: #923 OldLineTexan

Our poodle pup is currently four-fanged on top.

He's starting to worry me.

Franken Poodle? Franken Pup?

949 SixDegrees  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:25:11pm

Watching this signing unfold in it's carefully orchestrated, by-invitation-only setting, with the stock market plummeting in counterpoint, I was struck by the resemblance to the wedding scene from "The Man Who Would Be King," with Danny's hubris swollen to toxic proportions and the rest of the populace, sick with fear, tearing their hair and flagellating themselves in anticipation of the horrors about to unfold.

If you haven't seen this movie, you must.

950 right_wing2  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:25:21pm

Isn't there a website where you can buy/sell on different economic & political issues? I remember visiting it before election day, but I've lost the link.

951 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:26:14pm

To all those who refused to vote for McCain because he was not conservative enough or fiscally savvy enough:

ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY NOW?

952 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:27:08pm

re: #929 OldLineTexan

If he grows a mullet and tells me to "Get right Ri-yut with JesusJay-zus" I am going to die.

That's more like it and he needs a tent.

953 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:27:18pm

re: #937 jcw46

I have no doubt there are skeletons and skulls around the Skull and Bones clubhouse on the Yale campus. They're used in the initiation rites of many secret societies to symbolize death and mortality. The question is, can they get a DNA sample that proves the identity of the decedent?

954 right_wing2  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:28:22pm

re: #951 FurryOldGuyJeans

To all those who refused to vote for McCain because he was not conservative enough or fiscally savvy enough:

ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY NOW?

I voted against Obama. McCain wasn't much of a choice, but I would have cast a ballot for moldy bread before supporting Obama.

955 Pietr  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:28:29pm

re: #936 jorline

Tax payers will buying the new government fleet cars from GM and Chrysler. Ford didn't ask for any money and will be left out in the cold.

Just like under FDR and The NRA.........:>((

956 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:28:48pm

re: #952 jcw46

That's more like it and he needs a tent.

Dog the Bounty Hunter needs no tent, brah.

/

957 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:29:14pm

re: #951 FurryOldGuyJeans

To all those who refused to vote for McCain because he was not conservative enough or fiscally savvy enough:

ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY NOW?

Can't blame me, I voted for the old turd in the punch bowl.

958 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:29:30pm

re: #948 jcw46

Franken Poodle? Franken Pup?

I just don't want to pay for doggie dentistry if I can help it!

959 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:29:38pm

re: #942 OldLineTexan

DNA should be simple enough.


there's KNOWN relatives (I doubt they've got a sample from HIM)?

960 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:30:25pm

re: #959 jcw46

there's KNOWN relatives (I doubt they've got a sample from HIM)?

Little sample from the skull, yes? Or no?

961 SixDegrees  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:31:30pm

re: #937 jcw46

How can they prove that the bones are his? Is there documentation? Witnesses? Testimony?
Much as I can see their point/right to want them back. There would have to be more facts to back the claim that Skull and Bones has them. What if someone got the bones from some other dead person and CLAIMED they were Geronimo's? It will be interesting to see what happens.

This myth burbles to the surface every few years; I believe it's been taken to court in the past, and nothing has come of it. There's no evidence at all that the fraternity has any such thing in their possession, and the courts seem inclined to believe the fraternity when it says such claims are nonsense.

From the sounds of it, this latest suit is already circling the drain of it's forefathers.

962 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:31:50pm

The Happy-Face Fascists of Detroit, being propped up with your tax dollars! Get used to it!

963 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:32:26pm

re: #960 OldLineTexan

Little sample from the skull, yes? Or no?


Oh. Yeah, you mean from some artifact from his wounds with tissue on it?

964 OldLineTexan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:34:30pm

re: #963 jcw46

Oh. Yeah, you mean from some artifact from his wounds with tissue on it?

I could swear they can DNA test bone, but maybe they could not get enough without damaging the skull. Soft tissue remains from a tooth? I don't know.

965 UberInfidel67  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:37:43pm

re: #964 OldLineTexan
They would probably mine for DNA in the marrow of the bones.

966 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:39:10pm

As you can tell, I'm getting accustomed to using the "F" word more frequently! ;-)

967 jcw46  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:39:56pm

re: #964 OldLineTexan

I could swear they can DNA test bone, but maybe they could not get enough without damaging the skull. Soft tissue remains from a tooth? I don't know.


I meant they have to have something to compare the dna of the bones to. It has to be a sample that can be shown to come from a close relative or actually from him. I thought you meant there was a KNOWN sample of HIS dna from an artifact (a bullet or rope) that is known to have come from him.

968 Mirage  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:41:24pm

re: #577 Ward Cleaver

I've read that Hawaii leads the U.S. in per capita consumption of Spam, and that it goes back to WWII, when meat was hard to come by there.

Yep, Hawaii consumes the most Spam and we even have it on the breakfast menu at McDonald's served with white rice and scrambled eggs. :D

Spam musubi are the favored incarnation: a square block of rice with a slice of fried spam on top wrapped with a strip of seaweed. There are many, many variations.

969 SusanL  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:46:35pm

re: #456 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

We already have one client who wants to do away with dependent coverage. Not just the contribution, the coverage. My boss is talking him down, but she isn't sure she

This whole this is just a sneakly way to put in a single-payor system. Government healthcare - not just in your nightmares anymore.

S

970 gringo69  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:48:02pm

I don't know about everyone else, but for the first time I am finally proud of my new president! He stood up like a man, threw away his Bush crutches, said I, Me,My plan about 10 times and took ownership of his presidency. He cited his unknown panel of "All the Top Economists and Business Leaders" again also. I feel better!

/sarc off

971 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:49:07pm

re: #969 SusanL

No doubt nationalizing health care is on the Obama agenda. With "private-public" partnerships, no doubt.

972 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:51:29pm

re: #970 gringo69

See, government now is working with business in a "private-public" partnership. The smart businessmen will be Party members, will be on board, and will be selected for success by your government!

Sieg heil, anyone?

973 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:57:11pm

re: #971 quickjustice

I've seen nationalized medical care in Germany and again here in Turkey. It sucks. It sucks even worse when they start contracting it out. Most doctors will give paying patients priority over the ones from the government. I think obummer wants us all to emulate the socialist and third world crapholes.

974 DawnofTruth  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:57:13pm

re: #969 SusanL

SusanL
Do you have the info on this mess about COBRA

975 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 2:59:49pm

I just heard the best point--

The democrats send their kids to posh private schools but won't allow the rest of us the same choice with vouchers.
The democrats want to take away our gun rights, while they are kept safe with armed secret service personnel.
The democrats want us all to have welfare-style heath care, while they enjoy private health care.

976 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 3:01:36pm

Obama raised more campaign money than George Bush and John Kerry did combined in the 2004 elections. The bailout is about payback. Pay to play payback.

977 Greenfire  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 3:07:43pm

A Washington signing of this bill wasn't acceptable? This symbolism signing in Denver cost taxpayers roughly a half million dollars round trip for the flying fortress and its back-up. Someone please tell this guy the campaign is over...he won!

978 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 3:16:20pm

“Now, imagine if President Bush had presided over a 2,000-point stock market tumble in the same time period — during the first few months of his presidency.”

979 Kailen  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 3:27:18pm

3/4 of a trillion dollars in a single bill within a month of his inauguration. CHANGE!

980 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 3:30:19pm

I listened to most of the Campaign-stop porky comedy routine while driving to Denver today. A few things that struck me-- first, Joe Biden, God bless him, is a dolt. I take slight pleasure in his stupidity, but it's really very tragic. We had to listen to the left's vile slobbering conspiracy ridden Bush-hate for 8 years. Now this. Joe Biden is an intellectual midget next to George Bush.
next - the Boulder based Namaste solar company consists of 60 people. I am all for solar and wind and alternative energy, but it seemed like 787 billion was a lot to spend to get a company of 60 back on its feet.

981 SixDegrees  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 3:46:03pm

re: #973 baconeatingkaffir

I've seen nationalized medical care in Germany and again here in Turkey. It sucks.

You don't have to go that far. Just check out any VA hospital, then multiply the horrors you find there by at least 100.

If the government can't even run a medical system for a tiny subset of the population, why does anyone think it will do a better job running a system for the entire population?

982 MJBrutus  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 3:55:19pm

The largest spending bill evah. And this is just a down payment!

Just who is foolish enough to believe that all the new programs, projects and boondoggles baked in to this thing are one time expenses? Is there an American alive who's naive enough to believe that the funding for such "necessary" items as a choo choo to Vegas is fully funded in this bill? Is there any American who believes that we'll just roll back the new welfare liabilities granted by this bill when the "crisis" is over?

Not even a month in office and the country is already trillions further in debt. I just can't wait for TARP 2 and STIMULUS 2 this summer. And we haven't even started on crippling whatever's left of our economy by imposing limits on plant food (aka Carbon Dioxide)!

983 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 3:56:54pm
984 buzzdroid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 4:08:27pm

stimulus bill - the longest suicide note in history.

oh well - at least you'll blow 8 BILLION on a maglev train from LA to Las Vegas without a single foot of track being laid.

the 8 BILLION going to environmental lawyers , of course...

seriously - thats the kind of crap on the bill.

how much is being set aside for stuff that really matters - like nuclear fusion research?

985 buzzdroid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 4:18:36pm

re: #981 SixDegrees

You don't have to go that far. Just check out any VA hospital, then multiply the horrors you find there by at least 100.

If the government can't even run a medical system for a tiny subset of the population, why does anyone think it will do a better job running a system for the entire population?

if you want an even bigger horror, go look at the NHS in Britain. thats as socialist as what they have in Cuba.

its such a great system that the hospitals are filthy and thousands die of MRSA while IN HOSPITAL... yes folks - go to a socialist NHS hospital, and there is a high chance you might not make it back home. The hospital will literally kill you.

but on a more important point - because the NHS is funded out of taxation, nobody in britain has a clue about how much health care actually COSTS.. so therefore there are no incentives to live more healthily. you yanks have that - its called insurance premiums.

smoke & drink a lot - your insurance goes up. easy to understand.

no - that doesnt happen in britain. you can smoke and drink all you like, and mister fitness picks up the tab via his taxes.

the only valid reason that the Dems might want to go down the NHS route is because of one thing only - power. because, if the NHS system doesnt work,then its an excuse to nanny you into living a healthier lifestyle - and that sort of nagging is a power trip for socialists.

yes folks - having the government run the health service is a conduit for the government to tell you how to live your life.

one example, from Britain:
[Link: www.5aday.nhs.uk...]

thats a government website. backed up by constant TV adverts too...

if you want that, good luck to you.

986 Maui Girl  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 4:24:46pm

re: #929 OldLineTexan

If he grows a mullet and tells me to "Get right with Jesus" I am going to die.

Relax. You'll live forever because he'd NEVER tell you to get right with Jesus. As far as the mullet.....

987 BingoBunny  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 4:50:08pm

I'm no economist, but I've read one in the blogs.. And I've decided that better then buying GOLD, getting back in stocks, or moving to Greenland.. is spending.. borrow as much as you can.. max out your credit cards.. ask your mother in law for a loan.. get all the money you possible can.. and then SPEND it.. the pay back will be with greatly inflated dollars.. worth a lot less in future money then it is now.. so go crazy.. spend like theres no tomorrow.. and if there isn't a tomorrow.. your ahead

988 zturlte  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:04:18pm

Yeah exactly why buy gold if they can confiscate like they did in the 30s.
Hey but Obama will always have his mini-teleprompter the blackberry to have someone else figure out what to say to us.

989 yesandno  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:25:07pm

Heard today that this bill with help create or save 100,000 jobs for everyone in Western North Carolina.......

Uh....major city with surrounding area is about 105,000 many of whom are retirees..and with reast of region total would be about 200,000. So where exactly are the 100,00 new jobs coming from? Or is he saving every job in this part of the state and then some? Or that we are now so poor that we all need to have 3-4 jobs?

BS, MS, PHD

990 steve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:30:01pm

I hope and pray that he totally fails!

991 witness  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:07:02pm
992 soxfan4life  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 5:13:02am

re: #982 MJBrutus

The largest spending bill evah. And this is just a down payment!

Just who is foolish enough to believe that all the new programs, projects and boondoggles baked in to this thing are one time expenses? Is there an American alive who's naive enough to believe that the funding for such "necessary" items as a choo choo to Vegas is fully funded in this bill? Is there any American who believes that we'll just roll back the new welfare liabilities granted by this bill when the "crisis" is over?

Not even a month in office and the country is already trillions further in debt. I just can't wait for TARP 2 and STIMULUS 2 this summer. And we haven't even started on crippling whatever's left of our economy by imposing limits on plant food (aka Carbon Dioxide)!

And today he's going to start attacking the foreclosure problem. This is certainly not the country I fought for, bled for and saw fellow soldiers give their life for. FU Obama.


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