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1 Pious Agnostic  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:10:27pm

Yuck…I followed the link and got some on me.

2 jones  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:10:37pm

Sullivan or not, you are stillright.

3 ArmyWife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:10:52pm

It’s backhanded compliment day at LGF!

4 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:10:58pm

There’s no such thing as bad publicity. Ur that is as long as your name isn’t A-Rod.

5 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:11:27pm

I agree.

6 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:12:04pm

Oh well.

7 Syrah  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:12:23pm

Early on, when he first started his blog, he was interesting.

Now, not so much.

8 wrenchwench  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:12:41pm

On the other hand, a looooong time ago, I found LGF because there was a link at the Daily Dish.

9 thefallingman  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:12:53pm

Ah. Blind squirrels and whatnot…

10 vxbush  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:12:58pm

I really don’t want to give Sullivan the traffic—anyone willing to post the offending text?

11 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:13:20pm
12 ArmyWife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:14:11pm

Since people outside the normal “realm” are realizing Charles’ character judgment is pretty darn accurate, perhaps now is a good time to point out Pat Buchanan leaves a lot to be desired?

13 morning star  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:15:57pm

re: #10 vxbush

I really don’t want to give Sullivan the traffic—anyone willing to post the offending text?

“17 Feb 2009 04:45 pm
Fear And Anger

Those are the two programming staple from Fox News, so perhaps last night’s Hannity is not too surprising. It was a summary of alleged sleeper cells in the US, featuring “expert” Martin Mawyer.

Money quote:
Mawyer: They have weapons of mass destruction…
Hannity: What kind of weapons of mass destruction?
Mawyer: Well, in some cases I can’t uh, even tell you, Sean.

I bet he can’t. But when Little Green Footballs finds Mawyer less than credible, Fox has a problem.”

14 DistantThunder  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:16:20pm

I think he’s got a man-crush on you, Charles. He almost certianly has site envy.

15 pious agnostic  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:16:25pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

On the other hand, a looooong time ago, I found LGF because there was a link at the Daily Dish.

Me too. Remember back in the early days after 9/11? Sullivan used to be somebody I wanted to read.

16 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:17:08pm

Charles, is there a way to view a “normal” web page with a person’s user account on it, instead of one of those magico-unfolding Ajax/Flash whatever user windows?

There use to be a way, but I can’t figure it out any more.

17 Steffan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:18:04pm

Hey, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

That Sullivan actually got something right — and that he’s taken a break from looking for Trig Palin’s nirth sertifikat, for once — is worth noting. You may never see such again.

Charles, if you wash it down in vinegar, it won’t stick.

18 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:19:19pm

re: #11 buzzsawmonkey

Moreover, Sullivan is most definitely a dandy Yankee doodle.

19 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:19:48pm

The United States will seek a more comprehensive, diplomatic approach to dealing with the war in Afghanistan, US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday, hours before signing off on an increase in US forces there

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

I wasn’t aware that the 17,000 American Troops tasked to Afghanistan were all diplomats? Does our CIC know what he is doing?

20 JCM  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:19:57pm

A left handed compliment is better than the back of the hand.

I think.

21 jones  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:19:59pm

Someday you can post a link of Sullivan criticizing MSNBC.

22 Outrider  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:20:13pm

re: #18 zombie

Moreover, Sullivan is most definitely a dandy Yankee doodle.

seems to at least be a dandy

23 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:20:13pm
24 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:20:16pm

It’s funny, but when Sullivan finally peels himself away from his unending search to find Trig’s true mother, I might listen to what he has to say. As it is, I haven’t paid attention to Excitable Andy for years.

Still, I didn’t need him to tell me that Hannity has problems with some of his guests - like Martin Mawyer or regular guests like the anti-Semite Pat Buchanan.

25 JCM  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:20:56pm

re: #19 Nevergiveup

The United States will seek a more comprehensive, diplomatic approach to dealing with the war in Afghanistan, US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday, hours before signing off on an increase in US forces there

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

I wasn’t aware that the 17,000 American Troops tasked to Afghanistan were all diplomats? Does our CIC know what he is doing?

HRC will sit down and talk with the Taliban…..
That’s gonna’ go real far…….

26 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:21:09pm

re: #16 zombie

Charles, is there a way to view a “normal” web page with a person’s user account on it, instead of one of those magico-unfolding Ajax/Flash whatever user windows?

There use to be a way, but I can’t figure it out any more.

Sure, all you have to do is use Internet Explorer on Windows.

Oh, that’s not what you meant? Heh.

Yes, you can use a URL like this:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Just replace ‘zombie’ with the username you want to look up. If it has spaces in it, replace them with ‘+’ symbols.

27 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:21:09pm

Yuck. Sullivan is a slimy creep.

28 SpaceJesus  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:01pm

that little cartoon of his is annoying. I hate people who draw like that.

29 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:02pm

re: #25 JCM

HRC will sit down and talk with the Taliban…..
That’s gonna’ go real far…….

Apparently she is not allowed to touch Afghanistan and Pakistan? That has been dealt to Richard Holbrook?

30 Elcid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:10pm
There’s nothing like a left-handed compliment from Andrew Sullivan to totally creep you out.

Uhhh, don’t think I’d want either hand, for some reason.

“not that there’s anything wrong with that”

31 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:15pm

re: #16 zombie

right click open in new tab on a pc

32 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:31pm

re: #19 Nevergiveup

The United States will seek a more comprehensive, diplomatic approach to dealing with the war in Afghanistan, US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday, hours before signing off on an increase in US forces there

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

I wasn’t aware that the 17,000 American Troops tasked to Afghanistan were all diplomats? Does our CIC know what he is doing?


Diplomatic approach? Aggressive diplomacy with high explosives always does the trick.

33 iLikeCandy  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:33pm

With persistence and reason, this type of nonsense will get stomped out. With ratings spikes, it will spread like wildfire.

/so i’m sure we’ll be just fine

34 Manster  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:23:49pm

This topic that started yesterday is exactly why I don’t watch the tube to get my news. I go to sources I know I can trust. LGF is bookmark number one on my Mac bar menu.

35 teleskiguy  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:23:58pm

BATTLE OF THE BLOGS!

Hey, at least there’s a consensus about Martin Mawyer. What a goddamned full-blown whack-a-loon!

36 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:24:57pm

re: #26 Charles

Sure, all you have to do is use Internet Explorer on Windows.

Oh, that’s not what you meant? Heh.

Yes, you can use a URL like this:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Just replace ‘zombie’ with the username you want to look up. If it has spaces in it, replace them with ‘+’ symbols.

OK. Thx. You’ve so streamlined the site the site there’s no way to navigate to a page like that any more. There used to be forgotten corners of LGF where it was possible to do so, but no more. Now, one must remember (or have bookmarked) the Terrible Secret.

37 JCM  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:26:51pm

re: #29 Nevergiveup

Apparently she is not allowed to touch Afghanistan and Pakistan? That has been dealt to Richard Holbrook?

F’n brilliant one of Rabbit Bait’s foreign policy advisors!

38 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:27:19pm

re: #36 zombie

OK. Thx. You’ve so streamlined the site the site there’s no way to navigate to a page like that any more. There used to be forgotten corners of LGF where it was possible to do so, but no more. Now, one must remember (or have bookmarked) the Terrible Secret.

Actually, the LinkViewer page still uses the old username method too, if you click a user’s icon from there.

39 TheMatrix31  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:28:06pm

Andrew Sillyman?
Andrew Slimyman?

40 MJ  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:28:18pm

Andrew Sullivan is talking about credibility?

41 vxbush  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:28:37pm

re: #13 morning star

“17 Feb 2009 04:45 pm
Fear And Anger

Those are the two programming staple from Fox News, so perhaps last night’s Hannity is not too surprising. It was a summary of alleged sleeper cells in the US, featuring “expert” Martin Mawyer.

Money quote:
Mawyer: They have weapons of mass destruction…
Hannity: What kind of weapons of mass destruction?
Mawyer: Well, in some cases I can’t uh, even tell you, Sean.

I bet he can’t. But when Little Green Footballs finds Mawyer less than credible, Fox has a problem.”

Gosh. I don’t suppose this would be a start of a new and wonderful relationship?

Nah. Probably not.

42 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:28:37pm

Good grief.

Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.

Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.

43 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:29:40pm

Hey, Sullivan. Those two dogs at your feet can’t stand you. And that woman in the background loosened a bolt on your chair. The back is about too come off and you’re gonna fall on the floor. Ha-ha.

44 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:29:52pm

Speaking of insanity:

Want to know why academia is irrelevant?

Because they purposely make themselves incomprehensible!

Imagine there is a convention in your town. Ask the conventioneers what the convention is about. In the Real World, you’ll get this kind of answer:

Boats
Computers
Guns
Games
etc.

But academic conferences? What are they about? Well, there’s one coming up in Berkeley later this week. Let’s ask the organizers to say, in as few words as possible, and as clearly as possible, what it’s about. And here’s their answer:

“Queer Bonds is a three-day symposium at the University of California, Berkeley, dedicated to exploring the intersections between sexuality and sociability. While its genealogies are multiple, the field of queer studies has been shaped by two powerful trajectories: on the one hand, an attempt to account for the creative forms of social and sexual bonding that have existed around, outside of, or in the interstices of “normal” sociality; on the other, an insistence on queerness as a force of subversion, refusal, and antipathy towards the social. How do conditions in our world today make it imperative that queer theory comprehend both the adhesive and corrosive dimensions of our queer bonds? The work we are canvassing asks in different ways how we can theorize sociability and relationality without either unilaterally embracing the positive existence of a queer social bond or insisting on its categorical refusal. Queer bonds must engage connections that span both moments of radical impersonality and of the all-too-personal. We invoke “bonds” in their multiple senses as deliberately redolent of the identity movements of the 1970s that provided much of the energy that served to define our field both academically and politically — alongside the denomination “queer” which suggests the enduring impact of the theories of subversion, resignification, and appropriation we associate with the art and theory of the 1980s and 1990s. We thus invite our speakers to pay heed to the rich traditions of queer culture, politics, and thought which have preceded our own, even as they reinvent them for the conditions of our world today.”

45 acwgusa  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:30:15pm

re: #19 Nevergiveup

The United States will seek a more comprehensive, diplomatic approach to dealing with the war in Afghanistan, US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday, hours before signing off on an increase in US forces there

[Link: www.jpost.com…]

I wasn’t aware that the 17,000 American Troops tasked to Afghanistan were all diplomats? Does our CIC know what he is doing?

Well, of course they’re diplomats. Diplomats with fragmentation grenades and automatic weapons. High speed leaded diplomacy.

46 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:30:22pm

So, Mr Sullivan trolls LGF? Can we expect a troll hatchling sometime in the future?

47 ArmyWife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:30:48pm

re: #46 A Kiwi Infidel

Where is Avanti?

48 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:31:07pm

re: #47 ArmyWife

Where is Avanti?

I was thinking Cognito?

49 Syrah  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:31:08pm

A full bottle of Gin,

My employees at the brink of rebellion over the lack of work (pay).

Seeing our company’s customer base getting creamed in a very ugly Dow.

Two Furlough days in a week including tomorrow.

Yep.

That bottle of Gin is in big trouble.

50 JCM  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:31:10pm

re: #44 zombie

Queer Bonds? Any relation to Barry?
////

51 Buster Bunny  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:31:30pm

re: #42 Charles

Good grief.

Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.

Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.

The hammer is coming down hard on the Palins. They are seen as a genuine threat for the people who run the current MSM show. And they are trying to bring her down to their level.

Ugly .. aint it?

52 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:31:33pm

re: #46 A Kiwi Infidel

So, Mr Sullivan trolls LGF? Can we expect a troll hatchling sometime in the future?

he’s here…they are all here, or their minions

53 ArmyWife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:31:53pm

re: #44 zombie

Huh. Is there a decoder ring available?

54 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:32:01pm

re: #44 zombie

Oh.. I see lots of SAT words. Well, they have to get their grant money somehow so being inscrutable and indecipherable allows them to baffle with BS as only they know how.

55 Buster Bunny  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:32:35pm

re: #44 zombie

Waffle .. piles of it.

Obama Wuz Ere … ‘93

56 Elcid  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:32:39pm

re: #42 Charles

O’Reilly is a putz.

57 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:32:49pm

re: #44 zombie

Academia needs a fairness doctrine. That’s the ticket./

58 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:33:28pm

re: #51 Buster Bunny

The hammer is coming down hard on the Palins. They are seen as a genuine threat for the people who run the current MSM show. And they are trying to bring her down to their level.

Ugly .. aint it?

she didnt have to do it and maybe should not have…but you know she may some moxie up her sleeve….O’Riley already exposed himself it sounds like

59 Buster Bunny  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:33:40pm

re: #46 A Kiwi Infidel

So, Mr Sullivan trolls LGF? Can we expect a troll hatchling sometime in the future?

Would that be YOUNG gamey troll buttock?

60 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:33:56pm

re: #38 Charles

Actually, the LinkViewer page still uses the old username method too, if you click a user’s icon from there.

Ah. Good. Some remnant of “LGF Classic” still floating around.

Sort of like the antiquarian DOS underlying Windows.

61 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:34:09pm
62 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:34:10pm

re: #49 Syrah

A full bottle of Gin,

My employees at the brink of rebellion over the lack of work (pay).

Seeing our company’s customer base getting creamed in a very ugly Dow.

Two Furlough days in a week including tomorrow.

Yep.

That bottle of Gin is in big trouble.


Ya better put your hand out. You have employees, so does GM. In proportion, your needs are just as great as theirs.

63 winston06  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:34:49pm

Andrew Sullivan is confused and a hate monger himself. Remember how he treated Prop 8 defenders in California?

64 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:34:50pm

re: #52 albusteve

he’s here…they are all here, or their minions


Oh, no………(looks behind……..looks under desk………….looks under bridge)

65 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:35:17pm

Geronimo’s Great Grandson Asks Yale Secret Society to Return Ancestor’s Skull
The great grandson of Geronimo says he wants to know whether Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University has the remains of the famous Apache chief and shaman.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

The lawsuit also names President Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Army Secretary Pete Geren as defendants because they are responsible for maintaining Geronimo’s remains on a U.S. Army base in Oklahoma, the group said.

Welcome to the party Obama!

66 vxbush  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:35:49pm

re: #44 zombie

Speaking of insanity:

Want to know why academia is irrelevant?

Because they purposely make themselves incomprehensible!

Imagine there is a convention in your town. Ask the conventioneers what the convention is about. In the Real World, you’ll get this kind of answer:

Boats
Computers
Guns
Games
etc.

But academic conferences? What are they about? Well, there’s one coming up in Berkeley later this week. Let’s ask the organizers to say, in as few words as possible, and as clearly as possible, what it’s about. And here’s their answer:

“Queer Bonds is a three-day symposium at the University of California, Berkeley, dedicated to exploring the intersections between sexuality and sociability. While its genealogies are multiple, the field of queer studies has been shaped by two powerful trajectories: on the one hand, an attempt to account for the creative forms of social and sexual bonding that have existed around, outside of, or in the interstices of “normal” sociality; on the other, an insistence on queerness as a force of subversion, refusal, and antipathy towards the social. How do conditions in our world today make it imperative that queer theory comprehend both the adhesive and corrosive dimensions of our queer bonds? The work we are canvassing asks in different ways how we can theorize sociability and relationality without either unilaterally embracing the positive existence of a queer social bond or insisting on its categorical refusal. Queer bonds must engage connections that span both moments of radical impersonality and of the all-too-personal. We invoke “bonds” in their multiple senses as deliberately redolent of the identity movements of the 1970s that provided much of the energy that served to define our field both academically and politically — alongside the denomination “queer” which suggests the enduring impact of the theories of subversion, resignification, and appropriation we associate with the art and theory of the 1980s and 1990s. We thus invite our speakers to pay heed to the rich traditions of queer culture, politics, and thought which have preceded our own, even as they reinvent them for the conditions of our world today.”

I have an acquaintance who has a Ph.D. in communications and speaks like this on a regular basis. I so want to take the red editing pen to her words as they come out of her mouth.

67 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:00pm

re: #53 ArmyWife

Huh. Is there a decoder ring available?

Yes. My decoder ring says, “I am getting a PhD in watching gay bondage porn. Toss in a few $3 words and a dash of Marxism, and I’m tenured for life!”

68 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:14pm

Now O’Reilly’s bashing the woman who had eight babies. Ranting about her, with psychologists who are totally violating their ethics by psycho-analyzing a woman they’ve never spoken to.

69 Buster Bunny  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:24pm

re: #60 zombie

I have trouble using the date system to look at old entries. Is it just me or is it a hard calendar to use? I keep on trying to put in dates and it erases my old entry, or changes it to a modern one.

70 ArmyWife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:29pm

re: #64 A Kiwi Infidel

And this is why, friends and neighbors, I am always reminding you to make sure you have your pants on at all times while posting. ;)

71 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:36pm

Fox News has jumped the killer whale.

72 MJ  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:46pm

re: #42 Charles

Good grief.

Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.

Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.

O’Reilly has zero credibility himself ( there’s that word again)

Bill O’Reilly, Producer Settle Harassment Suit

“…The deal likely involves payment of millions of dollars to Mackris, since the two sides were discussing an offer of well over $2 million when negotiations broke down, say sources close to O’Reilly. Both parties agreed to keep the details confidential, according to the statement….”

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]

73 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:37:29pm

re: #70 ArmyWife

And this is why, friends and neighbors, I am always reminding you to make sure you have your pants on at all times while posting. ;)


Crikey!…………..

74 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:37:50pm

re: #71 Charles

Fox News has jumped the killer whale.

good one…

75 pimp_conservative  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:38:04pm

Could we please stop talking about that hack Andrew Sullivan? Stop giving him any attention. He doesn’t deserve it. Let him find friends with the whackjobs on the Left who cheer American defeat.

76 Buster Bunny  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:38:54pm

re: #71 Charles

Things are changing fast at the moment. I’m quite sure I’ve never seen anything as scary as the lengths people went to in the last election to get their candidate into the oval office.

77 UberInfidel67  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:39:17pm

re: #19 Nevergiveup Ha! I don’t see my brother being too “diplomatic” when he is deployed. lol

78 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:40:13pm

re: #65 Nevergiveup

Geronimo’s Great Grandson Asks Yale Secret Society to Return Ancestor’s Skull
The great grandson of Geronimo says he wants to know whether Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University has the remains of the famous Apache chief and shaman.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

The lawsuit also names President Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Army Secretary Pete Geren as defendants because they are responsible for maintaining Geronimo’s remains on a U.S. Army base in Oklahoma, the group said.

Welcome to the party Obama!

this bumms me out..I knew Geronimo was buried over there but I always thought is was a tasteless joke about his bones….this is really disgusting to me and not funny at all…read his heartbreaking story

79 quickjustice  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:41:01pm

re: #44 zombie

Of course it’s academic gibberish. It’s all about the money. Grants, etc.

80 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:41:04pm

re: #78 albusteve

this bumms me out..I knew Geronimo was buried over there but I always thought is was a tasteless joke about his bones….this is really disgusting to me and not funny at all…read his heartbreaking story


Got a link?

81 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:41:23pm

re: #44 zombie

I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.

This is on the schedule for day two.

1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric

82 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:41:49pm

re: #80 A Kiwi Infidel

Got a link?

to what?

83 Kronocide  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:41:49pm

All our backhanded compliments are belong to you Honco.

84 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:42:11pm

re: #42 Charles

Good grief.

Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.

Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.

I only glanced at the article, but Bristol seemed to take a reasoned position: Abstinence is admirable — but admittedly difficult to maintain, as she personally can attest.

A substantial portion of teenaged boys so desperately want to break their abstinence pledge — but no girl will consent to help them break it.

Dorkiness and acne are more powerful social forces than all the social conservatives in the world.

85 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:42:47pm

re: #82 albusteve

to what?

to his “heartbreaking story”

86 Pastorius  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:42:50pm

49 Syrah,
I went through that last summer.

I finally just gave up.

I found I was not able to turn water into wine.

But, as you note, I could open a bottle of gin.

87 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:43:15pm

re: #71 Charles

Fox News has jumped the killer whale.

They’ve nuked the fridge and then some. But then again, they’ve still got a ways to go before entering MSNBC territory. It’s a race to the bottom, and we all lose.

88 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:43:38pm

I once got a link from Sullivan. Seems to me his traffic numbers are inflated.

89 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:44:32pm

re: #85 A Kiwi Infidel

to his “heartbreaking story”

it’s common knowledge…start with Wiki…it’s a dramatic tale of persecution and retribution…a classic clash of cultures

90 ArmyWife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:44:47pm

re: #68 Charles

In the mix of all that, 8 little precious lives are here. I honestly think the woman’s elevator isn’t hitting all the floors, but that is separate and apart from the innocents in all of this.

91 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:44:52pm
92 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:45:14pm

re: #81 HelloDare

I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.

This is on the schedule for day two.

1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric

Well, Duh. Everyone knows about Consensual Rape. You see, it’s an especially clever and beautiful kind of rape. You rape me, I rape you: it’s all a part of the cycle of life.

/

Meanwhile, the entirety of academia circles the drain in the toilet bowl….

93 ArmyWife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:45:19pm

re: #81 HelloDare

Isn’t that lovely.

94 horse  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:45:51pm

I still remember the first time I saw AS on TV. He was part of a panel on the Bill Maher show. There was some good conflict between the two of them and AS got the better of Maher.

Then at the end, as the credits rolled and the whole group came out on stage to talk in a group, Andrew started massaging is butt with both hands for an extended period of time while his back was to the camera. It was like watching someone masturbate their butt with their cloths on. We laughed at him for a long time after that display. Was it bad ‘roids? Did someone spank him the night before? Does Bill Maher’s studio chairs have bed bugs?

That creepy display, along with his odd tilt toward insanity shortly afterward made it difficult to ever take him seriously again.

95 Steffan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:46:19pm

Zombie, what’s up with this?

Move over Lou Seal, there’s a new San Francisco mascot that will be appearing at parades, street fairs and other public events around the city over the coming year. It’s the six-foot-fall Healthy Penis.

Actually, there are three of them, and they’ll make their reappearance Friday at noon at the corner of Castro and Market. They were controversial when they debuted in 2002, but became popular and were spotted around the city until 2006 to encourage gay and bisexual men to get tested for syphilis. (They come with a fourth, much less attractive buddy, Phil the Syphilis Sore.)

I bet they’re a blast at kids’ parties.

There’s also this bit of party-pooping:

Like banishing beads and masks from Mardi Gras or removing the red carpet and gold statues from the Academy Awards, the banning of floats, beer and nudity at this year’s Bay to Breakers will take all the fun out of it, many longtime revelers say.

City leaders and sponsors of the 98th annual wacky footrace announced several major changes Wednesday that detractors say will turn the over-the-top, only-in-San Francisco party into a 12K footrace like any other race in any other city in the world.

Sounds like a fate worse than death, don’t it?

96 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:46:25pm

re: #84 zombie

I only glanced at the article, but Bristol seemed to take a reasoned position: Abstinence is admirable — but admittedly difficult to maintain, as she personally can attest.

A substantial portion of teenaged boys so desperately want to break their abstinence pledge — but no girl will consent to help them break it.

Dorkiness and acne are more powerful social forces than all the social conservatives in the world.


I wish it was like that in NZ. My 16yr old son has taken a personal pledge of abstinence and he is constantly challenged BY THE GIRLS as to why he would want to not have sex. It is crying shame, these are pretty young girls with their whole futures ahead of them and our education system refuses to allow any teacher to teach that abstaining from sex is actually a valid option. I pray for my son and his need for strength.

97 mirage  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:46:29pm

re: #81 HelloDare

I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.

This is on the schedule for day two.

1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric


Three little letters in response to that title: W… T… F…

98 wiffersnapper  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:47:11pm

Wear it as a badge of honor.

99 JCM  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:48:10pm

re: #81 HelloDare

I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.

This is on the schedule for day two.

1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric

Ahhh, discussing the Stimulus package.
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100 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:48:15pm

re: #92 zombie

You had me fooled for a minute, then I spotted “Queerbonds Symposium”

Ok, got it. (puke)

101 LionofDixon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:48:22pm

Sullivan these days is about as relevant as the buggy whip. He once served a purpose, but now is simply a minor curiosity. Alas, using the word “whip” in a post about Andrew Sullivan gives me a slightly creepy feeling and I find myself instinctively reaching for the Lysol.

102 Bobblehead  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:48:41pm

re: #84 zombie

Dorkiness and acne are more powerful social forces than all the social conservatives in the world.

How right you are.

103 Steffan  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:49:11pm

re: #86 Pastorius

49 Syrah,
I went through that last summer.

I finally just gave up.

I found I was not able to turn water into wine.

But, as you note, I could open a bottle of gin.

I found that I can turn beer into water. It just takes a day or so.

/

104 Syrah  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:49:38pm

re: #62 A Kiwi Infidel

Ya better put your hand out. You have employees, so does GM. In proportion, your needs are just as great as theirs.

The price would be too great. Better to join them in the soup-lines then to whore them out to a fascist takeover. If they choose to join the blue shirts of their own free will, so be it, but I won’t sell them into it.

105 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:49:46pm
106 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:50:31pm

re: #95 Steffan

Zombie, what’s up with this?

“Move over Lou Seal, there’s a new San Francisco mascot that will be appearing at parades, street fairs and other public events around the city over the coming year. It’s the six-foot-fall Healthy Penis.”

Healthy Penis is old news: I photographed him last year at the Up Your Alley Fair.

107 ArmyWife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:50:43pm

re: #84 zombie

Agreed - BUT I completely disagree with the left’s response. Just because it’s difficult to abstain does not mean we throw any talk of waiting for marriage out the window and hand over “how to” manuals. Mistakes are made, they don’t need to be enabled.

108 JCM  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:51:21pm

re: #81 HelloDare

I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.

This is on the schedule for day two.

1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric

Seriously do these “academics” own a dictionary?

109 abolitionist  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:51:29pm

re: #68 Charles

Now O’Reilly’s bashing the woman who had eight babies. Ranting about her, with psychologists who are totally violating their ethics by psycho-analyzing a woman they’ve never spoken to.

The psychoanalysis at distance is disturbing, but she had 6 already before the 8, and appears to be making a grand show of it. Her fertility doctor, too.

110 JCM  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:51:54pm

re: #106 zombie

Healthy Penis is old news: I photographed him last year at the Up Your Alley Fair.

What a dick!

*had to be said*

111 Kronocide  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:52:18pm

Is this the same people who think all sex is rape?

112 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:52:40pm

re: #110 JCM

What a dick!

*had to be said*

good grief…what a waste

113 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:53:06pm

Here is the bio on one of Queerbonds Symposium’s organizers.

Chris Atwood is a fourth-year Ph.D. student in the Italian Studies department. His research centers on the intersections of same-sex desire and the desire to narrate in 19th and 20th century Italian novels and, more specifically, on confessional narratives, the rhetoric of the secret, tales of metamorphosis and queer travel writing.

114 UberInfidel67  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:53:43pm

re: #96 A Kiwi Infidel
It would be great if these girls learned that not all boys just want to sleep with them. Hopefully, your son is strong enough to resist going along with the crowd. Some of them actually do. Have faith. I hope these girls learn something about themselves too.

115 FloridaAnole  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:54:12pm

Didn’t see the program, but does having someone on a discussion/opinion show mean that Fox necessarily endorses that person as a reliable source? I mean, they seem to have quite a broad spectrum of guests on their various shows, and some of them are loons. I get the impression Fox books loons occasionally to add a bit of color to their programs.

116 Kronocide  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:55:09pm

re: #113 HelloDare

OMG, what a waste of $. But he’s got an education, yay!

117 theheat  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:55:42pm

I think in the realm of possibilities, anyone can find something in common with even their most despised enemy. At some point, whether it’s because you both like potato salad, or you agree on something much more volatile, there’s something you will agree on.

That doesn’t mean you have to like or support them, mostly because the other 99.999% of what they are is still diametrically opposed i.e they’re still intolerable creeps; sometimes even creeps beyond the pale.

Follow your gut. A.S. is creepy. That’s why the fact he may agree with you on this one issue creeps you out.

118 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:56:05pm

As a left-hander, I resemble that remark.

119 Mirage  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:56:10pm

re: #116 BigPapa

OMG, what a waste of $. But he’s got an education expensive piece of paper, yay!

Fixed

120 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:56:34pm

re: #44 zombie

Queer Bonds is a three-day symposium at the University of California, Berkeley

Is that Folsom Street Fair and Up Your Alley with Noam Chomsky?

121 JCM  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:57:14pm

re: #113 HelloDare

Here is the bio on one of Queerbonds Symposium’s organizers.

Chris Atwood is a fourth-year Ph.D. student in the Italian Studies department. His research centers on the intersections of same-sex desire and the desire to narrate in 19th and 20th century Italian novels and, more specifically, on confessional narratives, the rhetoric of the secret, tales of metamorphosis and queer travel writing.

Queer Travel Writing?

Travel and writing has a sexual preference? Damn, where is that box checked on you itinerary, I complete missed it.

122 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:57:21pm

re: #118 Cato the Elder

As a left-hander, I resemble that remark.

Another sinister lizard.

123 LionOfDixon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:03pm

I wonder if re: #120 Alouette

I wonder if their vision of a “stimulus package” is akin to the general public’s?

124 UncleSam  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:09pm

re: #44 zombie

The self-referential obscurantism and mindful overcomplication of the prose of academia drives me crazy.

125 Sean  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:18pm

Zombie,

Isn’t it ironic that what were once Firesign Theater and Monty Python skits are now academic conferences?

126 Thor-Zone  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:19pm

re: #42 Charles

Good grief.

Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.

Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.

I’m one of the growing numbers of Alaskans who think electing SP as Gov was a huge mistake. That being said Charles, I couldn’t agree more with your point about all the crap that is coming down on Bristol Palin. She talked about the facts as she knows them and she is being skewered for it.

Aren’t there more important things to talk about than a teen mother these days? How about a discussion on the end of the world as we know it…….

127 Kronocide  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:27pm

re: #119 Mirage

Oh, my bad. How about ‘Doctorate in Dogma’

128 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:33pm

re: #109 abolitionist

The psychoanalysis at distance is disturbing, but she had 6 already before the 8, and appears to be making a grand show of it. Her fertility doctor, too.

And none of us would know about it, or care, if the media hadn’t swooped in and battened on her like vampires to boost their advertising revenue.

129 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:52pm

re: #44 zombie

Speaking of insanity:

Want to know why academia is irrelevant?

Because they purposely make themselves incomprehensible!

Imagine there is a convention in your town. Ask the conventioneers what the convention is about. In the Real World, you’ll get this kind of answer:

Boats
Computers
Guns
Games
etc.

But academic conferences? What are they about? Well, there’s one coming up in Berkeley later this week. Let’s ask the organizers to say, in as few words as possible, and as clearly as possible, what it’s about. And here’s their answer:

“Queer Bonds is a three-day symposium at the University of California, Berkeley, dedicated to exploring the intersections between sexuality and sociability. While its genealogies are multiple, the field of queer studies has been shaped by two powerful trajectories: on the one hand, an attempt to account for the creative forms of social and sexual bonding that have existed around, outside of, or in the interstices of “normal” sociality; on the other, an insistence on queerness as a force of subversion, refusal, and antipathy towards the social. How do conditions in our world today make it imperative that queer theory comprehend both the adhesive and corrosive dimensions of our queer bonds? The work we are canvassing asks in different ways how we can theorize sociability and relationality without either unilaterally embracing the positive existence of a queer social bond or insisting on its categorical refusal. Queer bonds must engage connections that span both moments of radical impersonality and of the all-too-personal. We invoke “bonds” in their multiple senses as deliberately redolent of the identity movements of the 1970s that provided much of the energy that served to define our field both academically and politically — alongside the denomination “queer” which suggests the enduring impact of the theories of subversion, resignification, and appropriation we associate with the art and theory of the 1980s and 1990s. We thus invite our speakers to pay heed to the rich traditions of queer culture, politics, and thought which have preceded our own, even as they reinvent them for the conditions of our world today.”

Holy Theory, Batperson!

130 FloridaAnole  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:59:07pm

re: #124 UncleSam

The self-referential obscurantism and mindful overcomplication of the prose of academia drives me crazy.

It’s called doubletalk, or jive b.s. in the vernacular.

131 HelloDare  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:59:37pm

Can anybody translate this for me. It’s from the bio of a woman on the Queerbonds Symposium organizing committee.

Her interests include the craft of drag kinging and queening, performance ethnography, embodiment, transnational feminisms, straight shame, and all things queer queering all things.
132 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:00:02pm

re: #115 FloridaAnole

Didn’t see the program, but does having someone on a discussion/opinion show mean that Fox necessarily endorses that person as a reliable source? I mean, they seem to have quite a broad spectrum of guests on their various shows, and some of them are loons. I get the impression Fox books loons occasionally to add a bit of color to their programs.

I often think Fox just books whoever happens to be available.

133 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:00:18pm

re: #113 HelloDare

Here is the bio on one of Queerbonds Symposium’s organizers.

Chris Atwood is a fourth-year Ph.D. student in the Italian Studies department. His research centers on the intersections of same-sex desire and the desire to narrate in 19th and 20th century Italian novels and, more specifically, on confessional narratives, the rhetoric of the secret, tales of metamorphosis and queer travel writing.


A travel log of queer travels?

It sounds like a “must buy”,………only to ensure I never go where they go, travelling, that is, before I get punned out

134 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:00:44pm

re: #107 ArmyWife

Agreed - BUT I completely disagree with the left’s response. Just because it’s difficult to abstain does not mean we throw any talk of waiting for marriage out the window and hand over “how to” manuals. Mistakes are made, they don’t need to be enabled.

This is one of those very difficult questions. My feelings:

The Left is very overtly and very aggressively encouraging teenagers to be promiscuous. That is absolutely true. And they have a total hammerlock on our educational system and are pushing it relentlessly.

The Right feels that kids “are getting the wrong message (which they certainly are), and counter with the proposal: Have no sex education at all if it allows for the possibility of discussing teen sexual activity.

The Left’s position is: Teens will have sex, will simply can’t stop them.

And while that is true to a certain extent, we adults can dampen or inflame teen sexual activity with how we treat it. I agree with the Right that we should tell kids that, for their own sakes, try to have some restraint. But I don’t agree that we should enforce ignorance.

In my fantasy scenario, sex education classes would say, essentially:

“You may have urges, but trust us, the more you resist them at this stage, the better you’ll be in the long run. Abstinence is admirable. HOWEVER, if you simply can’t control yourselves, FOR GOD’S SAKE USE A CONDOM!”

135 LionOfDixon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:00:53pm

re: #128 Charles

Slow news cycle…must not have been too many missing white girls to lard up the programming schedule.

136 carefulnow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:05pm

re: #129 Cato the Elder

Heh-heh. You said “powerful trajectories.”
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137 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:10pm

re: #131 HelloDare

Can anybody translate this for me. It’s from the bio of a woman on the Queerbonds Symposium organizing committee.

translation: she’s strange.

138 Sean  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:24pm

re: #128 Charles

I hear the locust noises from “The Right Stuff” when thinking about the media.

139 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:25pm

re: #111 BigPapa

Is this the same people who think all sex is rape?

No, just sex between a man and a woman.

140 abolitionist  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:43pm

re: #128 Charles

And none of us would know about it, or care, if the media hadn’t swooped in and battened on her like vampires to boost their advertising revenue.

Right.

141 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:51pm

re: #120 Alouette

Is that Folsom Street Fair and Up Your Alley with Noam Chomsky?

Excellent summation.

142 FloridaAnole  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:02:15pm

re: #131 HelloDare

Can anybody translate this for me. It’s from the bio of a woman on the Queerbonds Symposium organizing committee.

She’s Ru Paul?

143 Bloodnok  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:02:20pm

re: #131 HelloDare

Can anybody translate this for me. It’s from the bio of a woman on the Queerbonds Symposium organizing committee.

I have straight shame. It’s one of the reasons I can’t play poker anymore.

144 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:02:58pm

“There’s nothing like a left-handed compliment from Andrew Sullivan to totally creep you out.”

…Get used to it.

145 yesandno  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:03:14pm

re: #123 LionOfDixon

I wonder if

I wonder if their vision of a “stimulus package” is akin to the general public’s?

Yup….in both instances, someone gets screwed.

146 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:03:17pm

the FOX Freak Show rumbles on….a pig with lipstick

147 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:03:35pm

re: #42 Charles

Good grief.

Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.

Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.

Teaching “abstinence only” to little meat-packets of raging hormones as a solution to teen pregnancy is about as effective as making kids feel guilty about masturbation. What you get is a bunch of failed abstinents with babies and a bunch of guilty kids washing their sheets on the sly.

148 LionOfDixon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:03:50pm

re: #144 Eric Cartman’s Conscience

Do two left-handed compliments add up to one reach-around? Now that’s creepy!

149 Kronocide  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:03:53pm

re: #134 zombie

“You may have urges, but trust us, the more you resist them at this stage, the better you’ll be in the long run. Abstinence is admirable. HOWEVER, if you simply can’t control yourselves, FOR GOD’S SAKE USE A CONDOM!”

How about, go rub one off in the bathroom? Jeez.

150 akak  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:04:08pm
151 carefulnow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:04:41pm

re: #128 Charles

I disagree. When a woman decides to have even one child deliberately without a father, we should all care. 14? Off the charts.

152 Bloodnok  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:04:51pm

re: #149 BigPapa

How about, go rub one off in the bathroom? Jeez.

Jeez, where did you grow up?

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153 yesandno  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:05:42pm

re: #134 zombie

This is one of those very difficult questions. My feelings:

The Left is very overtly and very aggressively encouraging teenagers to be promiscuous. That is absolutely true. And they have a total hammerlock on our educational system and are pushing it relentlessly.

The Right feels that kids “are getting the wrong message (which they certainly are), and counter with the proposal: Have no sex education at all if it allows for the possibility of discussing teen sexual activity.

The Left’s position is: Teens will have sex, will simply can’t stop them.

And while that is true to a certain extent, we adults can dampen or inflame teen sexual activity with how we treat it. I agree with the Right that we should tell kids that, for their own sakes, try to have some restraint. But I don’t agree that we should enforce ignorance.

In my fantasy scenario, sex education classes would say, essentially:

“You may have urges, but trust us, the more you resist them at this stage, the better you’ll be in the long run. Abstinence is admirable. HOWEVER, if you simply can’t control yourselves, FOR GOD’S SAKE USE A CONDOM!”


ding, ding, ding, ding……we have a winner!

154 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:05:51pm

re: #149 BigPapa

How about, go rub one off in the bathroom? Jeez.

Agreed, “Get a grip of yourself”

Or, “you need to take yourself in hand, young man”

155 JCM  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:06:16pm

re: #134 zombie

I would like for us society wise to hold guys more responsible. Pretty much right now I guy can have his jollies walk away and leave all of us to support his offspring.

If really held guys responsible, then the guys might think twice about the position of their zipper if they know that a chunk of their paycheck for the next 18 years would be taken and used for the care of the child.

156 alegrias  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:06:28pm

re: #68 Charles

Now O’Reilly’s bashing the woman who had eight babies. Ranting about her, with psychologists who are totally violating their ethics by psycho-analyzing a woman they’ve never spoken to.

* * *
I understand O’Reilly’s rage about this crime against humanity.

Californians and liberals enabled a smart welfare abusing, taxpayer cheating low life to cheat the system into giving her extremely expensive high tech medical services that resulted in her creating a family of Frankenstein children, many with disabilities FROM the IVF treatment.

Nadya Suleman gamed the California system, totally cheats both taxpayers and her innocent, disabled children, whom she abuses while she whores around to continue getting the fame she desperately wants.

This is the work of soul-less liberals with no thought about the consequences of letting disturbed people have the power to create life, innocent lives, wantonly.

It’s the flip side of soul-less liberals encouraging children to have plenty of “free” sex, with no consideration of the very real consequences including psychological cost of terminating pregnancies.

157 Kronocide  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:06:29pm

re: #152 Bloodnok

I’m hoping to not grow up, and go straight to the ‘dirty ol man/crusty curmudgeon’ phase. Then I can teach a class on it and sell a book on late night TV.

158 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:06:47pm

re: #151 carefulnow

I disagree. When a woman decides to have even one child deliberately without a father, we should all care. 14? Off the charts.

why?…it’s done…nosing in and caring after the fact is voyeurism

159 LionOfDixon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:06:54pm

re: #154 A Kiwi Infidel

How about getting a handle on your stimulus package?

160 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:07:04pm

re: #44 zombie

Academia: Navel-gazers with mirrored navels.

161 UncleSam  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:08:08pm

re: #130 FloridaAnole

It’s called doubletalk, or jive b.s. in the vernacular.

The lefty academics know they’re full of crap, so they try to blind the public with a barrage of purposefully incomprehensible bullshit.

162 carefulnow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:08:22pm

re: #158 albusteve

You don’t think that there, as a result of everyone’s outrage, will be reforms in the field? I hope so.

163 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:09:42pm

“Obama eyes Boehner and struggles vigorously with his own package designed to stimulate.”

164 GGMac  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:09:51pm

re: #42 Charles

Good grief.

Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.

Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.

O’Reilly in many ways came out from under the same rotted log as Sullivan. He’s the lowest form of Entertainment Tonight-Real Wives of Orange County-Fattest Man Gets Married -bottom-feeding -slimey slug snake-oil peddler to ever refer to himself as a “journalist”. There’s no one I’ve ever seen on TV who more gleefully relishes demeaning people - and the more normal and undeserving his victim, the more reprehensible he becomes - as demonstrated by his vile ‘report’ tonight on Bristol Palin.

*spit*

165 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:11:29pm

re: #162 carefulnow

You don’t think that there, as a result of everyone’s outrage, will be reforms in the field? I hope so.

public outrage is one thing…FOX is mining it for profit…beyond that I have no clue about potential reforms..doing the right thing is evolving out of our culture

166 theheat  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:11:37pm

re: #42 Charles

Icky, icky O’Reilly has no business even talking about sex, Mr. Desperately Pleading Over The Phone For Sex Guy. Geez, he makes me ill. That corpulent bastard makes my skin crawl every time I look at him.

I think what Bristol Palin said was one of the most honest, candid things anyone could say about the situation. For crying out loud, she’s living with it. She’s walked in those shoes.

I am not a fan, whatsoever, of her mother, and I know what an unpopular viewpoint that is, particularly here. However, this young girl has been in the trenches, and has a very relevant message. She’s spared everyone the idealistic bullshit, and is telling it like it is. I wish her and her baby the best of luck, and I really mean that.

Mr. I Wish I Could Get Laid and the rest of the socons can shove it up their sanctimonious, unrealistic, asses. Thumbs up, Bristol.

167 Thor-Zone  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:11:43pm

You may have urges, but trust us, the more you resist them at this stage, the better you’ll be in the long run. Abstinence is admirable. HOWEVER, if you simply can’t control yourselves, FOR GOD’S SAKE USE A CONDOM!”

As usual Zombie, you’ve hit the nail on the head.

168 carefulnow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:12:00pm

re: #165 albusteve

There, there.

169 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:13:56pm

re: #84 zombie

I only glanced at the article, but Bristol seemed to take a reasoned position: Abstinence is admirable — but admittedly difficult to maintain, as she personally can attest.

A substantial portion of teenaged boys so desperately want to break their abstinence pledge — but no girl will consent to help them break it.

Dorkiness and acne are more powerful social forces than all the social conservatives in the world.

I’m not sure what article you mean, but on this topic there is this survey.

Take heed Kiwi.

Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective

170 alegrias  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:13:57pm

re: #128 Charles

And none of us would know about it, or care, if the media hadn’t swooped in and battened on her like vampires to boost their advertising revenue.


* * * **
Charles, in other states people have to mortgage their homes to undergo these fertility treatments. As a Californian, you ought to care your state is “giving” these very expensive treatments away for “free”. It’s as bad as those FannieMae/Freddie Mac loans that were given to people who couldn’t afford their mortgages.

In this woman’s case, bad bureaucratic decisions resulted in disabled babies being born to homeless unemployed single woman with partner, nor means or mental stability to care for a gaggle of children.

The fact Ms. Suleman’s IVF babies are born with disabilities Californians will pay for, as a result of Dr. Kamrava’s gross negligence in propagating 4 & 6 & 8 babies at a time, should concern normal people.

O’Reilly is right to be upset with Californians, liberals, and this woman for propagating children she is abusing.

171 carefulnow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:14:54pm

re: #170 alegrias

Well put!

172 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:15:32pm

So, we should all hate O’Reilly now? I’ve never cared for the guy, ever. He’s tedious and apparently not very well spoken as he highlights words at the end of his show that we’ve all heard like they’re some Shakespearian neologism. But I’ve never before seen such hostility towards him here before. So, we hate him now then?

173 n in wi  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:16:08pm

re: #152 Bloodnok

Jeez, where did you grow up?

//


My guess is in a bathroom for a large part of the time.

174 kansas  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:18:02pm

re: #172 Eric Cartman’s Conscience

So, we should all hate O’Reilly now? I’ve never cared for the guy, ever. He’s tedious and apparently not very well spoken as he highlights words at the end of his show that we’ve all heard like they’re some Shakespearian neologism. But I’ve never before seen such hostility towards him here before. So, we hate him now then?

I think the latest round of “Hey This Will Really Piss You Off” starring Bill O’Reilly, is getting old.

175 Afrocity  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:18:15pm

Hmmm, Actually I don’t see it as a compliment. You have to look at how he is measureing LGF. Is he saying to himself “LGF really supports some wackos and if they think this guy is crazy, then Fox really has a problem”?

176 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:18:43pm

re: #128 Charles

And none of us would know about it, or care, if the media hadn’t swooped in and battened on her like vampires to boost their advertising revenue.

I don’t mean to defend the rags on this, but when you say we wouldn’t care, I can’t agree.

There is something seriously wrong here. Certainly with the doctor and quite possibly with the woman to the extent that it will damage the children eventually.

177 LionOfDixon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:19:42pm

re: #163 Eric Cartman’s Conscience

“Barney Frank Shmooze’s Weiner to get Crapo in his caucus.”

Allright….now I really need to disinfect!

178 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:19:52pm

re: #175 Afrocity

Hmmm, Actually I don’t see it as a compliment. You have to look at how he is measureing LGF. Is he saying to himself “LGF really supports some wackos and if they think this guy is crazy, then Fox really has a problem”?

Do you always think this deviously?

179 ArmyWife  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:19:55pm

re: #134 zombie

As the mother of one gorgeous 17 year old girl, I would never, ever advocate no sex ed is good sex ed! I think the sex ed should come from parents rather than schools, that is my fantasy. Because getting pregnant is always a possibility with sex no matter what birth control method chosen, I’ve always included the financial implications. If you can’t afford to have a baby, you can’t afford to have sex.

180 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:19:57pm

alegrias,

I understand O’Reilly’s rage about this crime against humanity.

Californians and liberals enabled a smart welfare abusing, taxpayer cheating low life to cheat the system into giving her extremely expensive high tech medical services that resulted in her creating a family of Frankenstein children, many with disabilities FROM the IVF treatment.

Nadya Suleman gamed the California system, totally cheats both taxpayers and her innocent, disabled children, whom she abuses while she whores around to continue getting the fame she desperately wants.

Yup. The outrage is justified. Nadya Suleiman’s efforts to be perpetually pregnant are a serious burden for her family and the taxpayers of California.

181 alegrias  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:20:27pm

re: #151 carefulnow

I disagree. When a woman decides to have even one child deliberately without a father, we should all care. 14? Off the charts.

* * * *
Thank you. Not only that, but those IVF treatments require MANY medical staff tracking your daily hormone shots early in the AM, late in the PM, deep in the buttocks—which you cannot do yourself—and are VERY expensive. You need to have sonograms of your uterus done several days in row, and lots of assistance.

IVF is very labor intensive, very expensive, NOT something welfare queens taking your tax dollars to feed their 6 kids can EASILY afford, unless they’re ripping off another bunch of taxpayers.

182 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:20:30pm

re: #159 LionOfDixon

How about getting a handle on your stimulus package?


only for a Billion

183 brandon13  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:20:48pm

re: #175 Afrocity

Hmmm, Actually I don’t see it as a compliment. You have to look at how he is measureing LGF. Is he saying to himself “LGF really supports some wackos and if they think this guy is crazy, then Fox really has a problem”?

That’s why the term, “left-handed compliment” was used when describing it.

184 Syrah  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:21:15pm

re: #172 Eric Cartman’s Conscience

He has a knack for being offensively wrong. So much so that I find that I would rather that he were “Looking out” for someone else.

185 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:22:00pm

re: #170 alegrias

OK, so let’s persecute her, then. Send in the media hounds. She’s evil.

186 SlartyBartfast  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:22:48pm

re: #172 Eric Cartman’s Conscience

Personally, I think this country is being taken over (from the inside) by Socialists while we’re being stalked from the outside by Islamists. We’re in a serious fight-to-the-death for our freedoms.

With that said, I’m starting to lose patience with Conservative(?) talking heads who waste their time (like O’Reilly) on meaningless B.S.

(And, just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get me.)

187 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:24:00pm

re: #172 Eric Cartman’s Conscience

So, we should all hate O’Reilly now? I’ve never cared for the guy, ever. He’s tedious and apparently not very well spoken as he highlights words at the end of his show that we’ve all heard like they’re some Shakespearian neologism. But I’ve never before seen such hostility towards him here before. So, we hate him now then?

Don’t be ridiculous, I’ve disliked O’rly for a long time now, long before I ever found LGF. And hate is too strong a word, that ignorant gas-bag doesn’t deserve that kind of emotional investment.

188 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:24:48pm

#177 LOD

Impressive.

How about “Barney had his Frank in Freddie’s Fannie until the house went to shit.”

It’s a foreclosure joke, right?

189 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:24:49pm

Yeah - the woman who gave birth to a litter is old news. That’s the problem with the nancy grace/bill o’reilly media -they grab on to these stories and they don’t let go.
Time to let it go.

In the mean time - Here’s some exciting news.
[Link: www.lookingattheleft.com…]

190 carefulnow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:26:28pm

re: #185 Charles

Huh? That’s not what s/he’s saying at all.

191 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:26:48pm

Welfare reform is now out the window. States will be encouraged to add to their welfare roles.

192 Afrocity  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:27:02pm

re: #84 zombie

I only glanced at the article, but Bristol seemed to take a reasoned position: Abstinence is admirable — but admittedly difficult to maintain, as she personally can attest.

A substantial portion of teenaged boys so desperately want to break their abstinence pledge — but no girl will consent to help them break it.

Dorkiness and acne are more powerful social forces than all the social conservatives in the world.

I was a virgin till I was 27. I practiced abstinence. I didn’t mean for it to go that long but once you have kept it till 21 or so, you begin to look for a spouse or someone “special” to lose it to. When I did have sex I used protection and so did the other virgins I knew. Why is the media so down on abstinence? They make it seem like people who practice abstinence are clueless about sex. The virgins I knew had a better grasp on sex ed than most of the “party girls” I knew— and they ended up pregnant.

Okay I did know one virgin that ended up pregnant at a TKE party. She was a baptist and really sweet and naive. Didn’t want to talk about sex because she thought it was “sinful”. Well she got pregnant. We were all shocked. The guy married her.

193 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:28:59pm
194 albusteve  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:28:59pm

re: #191 FrogMarch

Welfare reform is now out the window. States will be encouraged to add to their welfare roles.

and here I was doing a hell of a good job taking care of myself and getting a good education for my two kids….now they want more from me…fuck them…I won’t do it

195 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:30:18pm
196 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:30:59pm

re: #194 albusteve

and here I was doing a hell of a good job taking care of myself and getting a good education for my two kids….now they want more from me…fuck them…I won’t do it

Why bother? We are all socialists now. According to Obama’s campaign arm - Newsweek magazine.

197 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:31:27pm

#185 Charles,

No, she’s not evil. Rather she’s an irresponsible, selfish, and quite expensive douchebag looking for an Oprah Winfrey subsidized payday qua “John and Kate, Plus Eight.” She says so openly. O’Reilly is a true gasbag and whatever his daily indignation is, it’s almost always an embarrassment. But this Suleman chick is not the sort to stake one’s rationales.

198 theheat  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:31:35pm

re: #190 carefulnow

She hired her own PR peeps (who later quit). I don’t think staying under the radar was her goal. Then, of course, her web site asking for donations. That was no homemade page on myspace. From her end, this was a PR offensive.

I’m more concerned for the health of her umpteen babies, especially the ones with disabilities.

199 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:31:42pm

re: #196 FrogMarch

Why bother? We are all socialists now. According to Obama’s campaign arm - Newsweek magazine.

why bother working. We can all go on welfare!
(to clarify)

200 LionOfDixon  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:32:32pm

re: #188 Eric Cartman’s Conscience

You are the master, Sir. My lame parry: “Frank feels out Boehner’s stimulus package and has face to face with majority whip.”

201 GGMac  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:32:53pm

re: #189 FrogMarch

Yeah - the woman who gave birth to a litter is old news. That’s the problem with the nancy grace/bill o’reilly media -they grab on to these stories and they don’t let go.
Time to let it go.

In the mean time - Here’s some exciting news.
[Link: www.lookingattheleft.com…]

Thanks for that link. WOW! Did this guy study under Zombie?

202 alegrias  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:32:55pm

re: #185 Charles

OK, so let’s persecute her, then. Send in the media hounds. She’s evil.

* * * *
Dear Charles, I have not seen the tv coverage to which you refer. No, I’m not advocating persecuting this woman. I advocate saving her children who need help first, as she is apparently not able to care for them without total, massive taxpayer assistance.

Ms. Suleyman is smart, sick, and crafty enough to steal millions in tax dollars from Californians—for the children—while she prostitutes her sordid situation for the cameras, while who knows who is watching her 14 needy children.

203 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:33:31pm
204 carefulnow  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:33:56pm

re: #198 theheat

Looks like you misread my comment, which was directed at Charles’s comment. “S/he” referred to Alegria.

I agree with you, actually.

205 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:34:24pm

#200 LOD

LOL!

I’m about to get banned after posting here for six years and you had to go and crack me up! :)

That is Gold.

206 theheat  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:36:50pm

re: #72 MJ

If I recall, the transcripts of O’Reilly basically begging for sex used to be available from the smokinggun web site.

Ubercreepy. Seriously.

207 abolitionist  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:36:50pm

re: #170 alegrias

Excellent points. Altho much of the media has been in vampire mode over Ms Suleiman, some of the reporting has been socially responsible. Yellow press I can ignore. Would someone ding down my #140, please.

208 UberInfidel67  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:42:29pm

re: #192 Afrocity And I thought since I waited until 19 I was something special. Good on you. But….my bro just got remarried. He and his wife were trying for a baby. She conceived twice and lost the baby both time. They said she was too old. I don’t think she is old…she’s 42…but physically maybe she is. Then again, if no children is the way you want to go….good for you. If you decide to but do not have a partner…adopt. You seem more than stable, financially and mentally. Help a lost child.

209 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:47:39pm

re: #169 Naso Tang

I’m not sure what article you mean, but on this topic there is this survey.

Take heed Kiwi.

Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective


Its a personal pledge, nothing being forced on him, here. I can imagine at some Christian youth gathering where there a “move” to get all the kids to make these pledges (not do so would incur the wrath of the crowd let alone “The Wrath of the Lord”) These are the ones whose hearts were never in it.

He has made a personal choice. I will not condemn him one way or the other. I am his father. If he makes a mistake I will support him because I love him. However, he is motivated due to:
- Unwanted pregnancy
-Condoms do not stop disease
-A girl/woman’s virginity should be her gift to her husband and he doesnt believe he should take that from her.
- continual sexual activity denigrates the act, over time, to a mere short term thrill that doesnt last and then there is a need to look for the next thrill. Sex, within mariage, would then become of little meaning.

210 jorline  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:50:18pm

Funny line on Hannity.

Hannity…what do you think about A-Rod and steroids?

Gilbert Godfrey…I stay away from steroids, I can’t afford for my penis to get any smaller. If it gets any smaller it will be a vagina.

211 Syrah  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:52:35pm

re: #192 Afrocity

The TKE (Teaks) had a reputation when I was in College (over 20 years ago). Been to a couple of their parties. Like Animal House with out the rolling credits at the end.

(Reagan was a TKE.)

212 Capitalistincharge  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:52:45pm

OReilly probably is correct in doing a segment or two on the Dr. that did this and the system that allows this to happen. In order to do this you have to do the whole story including defining who the mother is and what she’s done etc. I agree with above poster that hopefully recognizing this will effect change in the system. However, they have gone pass responsible reporting and Bill seems to be on the verge of hounding a private citizen. He is causing alot of public problems for the family.

213 Afrocity  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:00:20pm

re: #211 Syrah

The TKE (Teaks) had a reputation when I was in College (over 20 years ago). Been to a couple of their parties. Like Animal House with out the rolling credits at the end.

(Reagan was a TKE.)

TKEs were the worst frat on my campus and they were like Animal House. I think all TKEs are like that. and PIKES (PKE) too.

214 Afrocity  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:01:22pm

re: #208 UberInfidel67

I will adopt a child —an older one.

215 Lynn B.  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:04:04pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

On the other hand, a looooong time ago, I found LGF because there was a link at the Daily Dish.

Yep. Sullivan was not always what he is.

216 Lynn B.  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:05:18pm

FAS

217 avanti  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:05:44pm

re: #47 ArmyWife

Where is Avanti?

I’m here,can I help you with something ? Just got back from a great Blackjack run at Caesar’s in AC.

218 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:05:47pm

re: #214 Afrocity

I’m 37, with a good sense of humor, and I clean up after myself. PICK ME! PICK ME!
;)

219 Arby Dwiar  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:07:24pm

re: #9 thefallingman

I’ve always liked squirrels and their arrogant attitude, though…

220 Throbert McGee  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:13:32pm

re: #18 zombie

Moreover, Sullivan is most definitely a dandy Yankee doodle.

♪♫
Dandy Andy crossed the sea
And turned into a Yankee;
Calls himself a “power bottom” —
Hence the right-side hanky!

Andy shot some steroids up;
Left his cock a noodle
If his hubby won’t go down,
Perhaps some other dude’ll!
♪♫

221 [deleted]  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:18:46pm
222 MJ  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:22:38pm

re: #206 theheat

If I recall, the transcripts of O’Reilly basically begging for sex used to be available from the smokinggun web site.

Ubercreepy. Seriously.

Oh yeah, right. I remember reading them. Something about “loofahs”.

223 AndyS  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:46:35pm

o no, I sullied myself by looking at the site….

224 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:46:42pm

re: #209 A Kiwi Infidel

I did not intend to be critical, nor to I pretend to share the same approach, but those are your and his choices. I simply meant to remind of the conflict between intentions and hormones in youth.

Been there, done that.

225 Throbert McGee  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:52:05pm

re: #221 buzzsawmonkey

That’s just evil funny.

Thanks — although I took some artistic license because I don’t think he’s yet a “Yankee” in the technical legal sense. (Although I assume he intends to change that now that the long-outdated ban on HIV+ foreigners becoming naturalized U.S. citizens has been lifted.)

226 Throbert McGee  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:57:23pm

re: #177 LionOfDixon

“Barney Frank Shmooze’s Weiner to get Crapo in his caucus.”

NTTAW… OWTFIAS? TSTTTWWT!

/terribly, terribly, terribly in need of brain-bleach

227 Joel  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:59:21pm

re: #15 pious agnostic

Me too. Remember back in the early days after 9/11? Sullivan used to be somebody I wanted to read.

After 9/11 Sulllivan used to be one of the more courageous figures calling for a vigorous prosecution of a war on Islamofascists. I honestly think that dementia is setting in for Randy Andy.

228 doppelganglander  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:00:13pm

re: #81 HelloDare

I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.

This is on the schedule for day two.

1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric

1. If it’s rape, it’s not consensual. They have other words for that.

2. Any academic title that begins with “Towards” is a towering pile of bullshit.

3. My kid wants to study film, but it sure as hell won’t be at Berkeley.

229 Capitalistincharge  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:03:19pm

Oregon is going to tax beer 1900%!?! Equating to $50 a barrel. Says it will use the revenue to treat Alcholism. Now let’s see….The responsible drinkers will pay for irresponsible drinkers. The Porkulus pkg…the responsible will pay for the irresponsible. I get it now! We are freaking doomed.

PS. I live in WI. What Oregon is proposing would be interpreted as the same as taxing G=d here.

230 WF Bach  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:10:01pm

re: #175 Afrocity

Yeah, me too. More of an out-and-out insult than a left-handed compliment, really.

231 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:27:35pm

re: #185 Charles

I do NOT agree that she is evil. I think that she is ill. And that her illness has been fed by the very people that should have been trying to help her.
More than a few fries short of a happy meal, has been MHO since the story broke.

232 Throbert McGee  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:05:57pm

re: #228 doppelganglander

2. Any academic title that begins with “Towards” is a towering pile of bullshit.

Not only is it bullshit, but the construction “Towards a Theory” sounds oddly ESL-ish to me. Since the academics who come up with these titles are native English speakers, however, it must be that they are pompously copying a grammatical construction in some other language — maybe Latin or Greek?

233 zombie  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:18:38pm

re: #220 Throbert McGee

♪♫
Dandy Andy crossed the sea
And turned into a Yankee;
Calls himself a “power bottom” —
Hence the right-side hanky!

Andy shot some steroids up;
Left his cock a noodle
If his hubby won’t go down,
Perhaps some other dude’ll!
♪♫

That was actually quite brilliant!

234 Salamantis  Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:35:29pm

re: #179 ArmyWife

As the mother of one gorgeous 17 year old girl, I would never, ever advocate no sex ed is good sex ed! I think the sex ed should come from parents rather than schools, that is my fantasy. Because getting pregnant is always a possibility with sex no matter what birth control method chosen, I’ve always included the financial implications. If you can’t afford to have a baby, you can’t afford to have sex.

But the sad reality is that many parents would shirk such a responsibility, and in this case, ignorance is pregnancy, not bliss.

235 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 2:35:26am
236 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:28:12am

#235: Get off my website.

237 NoizeNinja  Fri, Feb 20, 2009 9:39:07am

Taxing Beer 1900% is a shamockery!


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