Colorado Protests the Porkulus
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Colorado Says No To Obama’s Package of Pork.
Unfortunately, to no avail.
107 comments
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:58:11pm |
You won't be hearing Taxifornia protest the Porkulus!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:58:37pm |
All we are left with is "All Hail, Messiah-King Porkulus I!"
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:58:42pm |
I am glad to see this. Colorado is not yet lost to us. These people protesting must be kept organized, and then led against the Dems. the Porkulus has presented us with an opportunity for grass roots organizing. Karl Rove would not spurn it and neither should we.
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JacksonTn Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:58:52pm |
And they awakened slowly from their stupor ...
Now if the rest of the 52 million who voted for Obama the Constant Campaigner will just snap out of it ...
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rawmuse Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:59:33pm |
re: #4 Floral Giraffe
You won't be hearing Taxifornia protest the Porkulus!
Things getting scary here, a decided lack of tolerance for dissent is in the air. A chill wind is blowing, to quote Tim Robbins.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:59:52pm |
re: #1 rawmuse
Now, there is HOPE!
And CHANGE! There is also vomiting, and I often want to do that after Obama speaks.
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Gella Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:00:12pm |
yes, the 2nd coming, he will come and save us all by majic, where are the beans?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:01:32pm |
re: #11 Gella
yes, the 2nd coming, he will come and save us all by majic, where are the beans?
He has fed them to his unicorns.
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:01:54pm |
Posted this on a prior thread ...
White House Announces NARCDA To Spend $70 Million As A Result Of Stimulus
In a joint press conference at the White House, the North American Regional Crack Dealers Association (NARCDA) announced today that their members will be spending $70 million on new IT infrastructure as a result of passage of the Obama Stimulus Package."We're gonna have crack whores and winos spendin their extra $400 a year on crack, and we need to ramp up our infrastructure to handle it." said Little ThreePac Salih, spokesman for NARCDA. "We're thinkin that new smartphones and laptops should help handle the 23% increase in same-corner sales that we have forecast."
Robert Gibbs, press secretary for the Obama Administration cited the announcement as proof the "bottom up" economics are more effective at stimulus than traditional tax cuts and capital spending incentives that administrations going back to John F. Kennedy's have used to help the US economy recover from recessions. "Clearly, the failed ideologies of 'supply and demand' and 'money supply' and 'fiscal discipline' of the 'Chicago School' have been moved to ash heap of history and we can now all embrace the 'Chicago Way' as our joint path to economic justice."
Asked if he expected sustained demand for crack, ThreePac responded "F*** yeah! The Congress just repealed welfare reform, b*tch! And ACORN will be getting billions to pay poor folks for their votes! That means one thing: crack renaissance!"
In related news, Fox News reporter Major Garrett is reported to be in stable condition as he recovers from a gunshot wound sustained after he asked ThreePac "How can you live with yourself?" As Garret was stripped of his blood stained press credentials and removed from the briefing room, Gibbs commented that the incident showed one more reason for reinstituting the "fairness doctrine." Gibbs observed "Here we have yet another unfortunate incident that shows how expressing divisive, one sided, incorrect and judgemental views just leads to more gun violence in America. Conservatives need the 'fairness doctrine' for their own safety." Gibbs announced the credentialing of Miranda Sontag of The People's Revolutionary Vegan-Feminist Alliance Blog, which will take the place of FoxNews until Garrett recovers and receives remedial counseling.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:02:31pm |
/Wonder how I missed the protest in L A?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:03:15pm |
Can Individuals, or just States, just say NO?
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rawmuse Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:03:36pm |
Sadly, I am running out of give of darn. All of this will run its course, and the pendulum will eventually swing again. Or not.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:04:07pm |
re: #14 jcm
LOL! Thank you for that! Some of the links here, well, are scary!
That was FUN!
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karmic_inquisitor Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:05:06pm |
re: #9 rawmuse
Things getting scary here, a decided lack of tolerance for dissent is in the air. A chill wind is blowing, to quote Tim Robbins.
Down here people are publicly saying a bankruptcy is the only path to getting the state government back to a manageable size.
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Gella Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:05:16pm |
re: #21 jorline
The prescription sign is spot-on.
\everybody will get bunch of prozac and will be happy campers
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Gus Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:06:04pm |
re: #20 rawmuse
Sadly, I am running out of give of darn. All of this will run its course, and the pendulum will eventually swing again. Or not.
The pendulum may very well swing again either in 2012 or 2016. However, given that the populace only votes for Democrats or Republicans the outcome will be predictable IMO. If it is return to the business as usual style.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:06:31pm |
Related: Why Obama’s new Tarp will fail to rescue the banks
By Martin Wolf (Part 1 of 3)
Has Barack Obama’s presidency already failed? In normal times, this would be a ludicrous question. But these are not normal times. They are times of great danger. Today, the new US administration can disown responsibility for its inheritance; tomorrow, it will own it. Today, it can offer solutions; tomorrow it will have become the problem. Today, it is in control of events; tomorrow, events will take control of it. Doing too little is now far riskier than doing too much. If he fails to act decisively, the president risks being overwhelmed, like his predecessor. The costs to the US and the world of another failed presidency do not bear contemplating.
What is needed? The answer is: focus and ferocity. If Mr Obama does not fix this crisis, all he hopes from his presidency will be lost. If he does, he can reshape the agenda. Hoping for the best is foolish. He should expect the worst and act accordingly.
Yet hoping for the best is what one sees in the stimulus programme and – so far as I can judge from Tuesday’s sketchy announcement by Tim Geithner, Treasury secretary – also in the new plans for fixing the banking system. I commented on the former last week. I would merely add that it is extraordinary that a popular new president, confronting a once-in-80-years’ economic crisis, has let Congress shape the outcome.
The banking programme seems to be yet another child of the failed interventions of the past one and a half years: optimistic and indecisive. If this “progeny of the troubled asset relief programme” fails, Mr Obama’s credibility will be ruined. Now is the time for action that seems close to certain to resolve the problem; this, however, does not seem to be it.
All along two contrasting views have been held on what ails the financial system. The first is that this is essentially a panic. The second is that this is a problem of insolvency.
Under the first view, the prices of a defined set of “toxic assets” have been driven below their long-run value and in some cases have become impossible to sell. The solution, many suggest, is for governments to make a market, buy assets or insure banks against losses. This was the rationale for the original Tarp and the “super-SIV (special investment vehicle)” proposed by Henry (Hank) Paulson, the previous Treasury secretary, in 2007.
Under the second view, a sizeable proportion of financial institutions are insolvent: their assets are, under plausible assumptions, worth less than their liabilities. The International Monetary Fund argues that potential losses on US-originated credit assets alone are now $2,200bn (€1,700bn, £1,500bn), up from $1,400bn just last October. This is almost identical to the latest estimates from Goldman Sachs. In recent comments to the Financial Times, Nouriel Roubini of RGE Monitor and the Stern School of New York University estimates peak losses on US-generated assets at $3,600bn. Fortunately for the US, half of these losses will fall abroad. But, the rest of the world will strike back: as the world economy implodes, huge losses abroad – on sovereign, housing and corporate debt – will surely fall on US institutions, with dire effects.
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Cognito Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:06:39pm |
re: #19 ggt
Can Individuals, or just States, just say NO?
I'm pretty sure I've got some old Confederate money in the attic, somewhere. I hope some day might children aren't saying that about "old American money."
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gmsc Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:06:42pm |
Related: Why Obama’s new Tarp will fail to rescue the banks
By Martin Wolf (Part 2 of 3)
Personally, I have little doubt that the second view is correct and, as the world economy deteriorates, will become ever more so. But this is not the heart of the matter. That is whether, in the presence of such uncertainty, it can be right to base policy on hoping for the best. The answer is clear: rational policymakers must assume the worst. If this proved pessimistic, they would end up with an over-capitalised financial system. If the optimistic choice turned out to be wrong, they would have zombie banks and a discredited government. This choice is surely a “no brainer”.
The new plan seems to make sense if and only if the principal problem is illiquidity. Offering guarantees and buying some portion of the toxic assets, while limiting new capital injections to less than the $350bn left in the Tarp, cannot deal with the insolvency problem identified by informed observers. Indeed, any toxic asset purchase or guarantee programme must be an ineffective, inefficient and inequitable way to rescue inadequately capitalised financial institutions: ineffective, because the government must buy vast amounts of doubtful assets at excessive prices or provide over-generous guarantees, to render insolvent banks solvent; inefficient, because big capital injections or conversion of debt into equity are better ways to recapitalise banks; and inequitable, because big subsidies would go to failed institutions and private buyers of bad assets.
Why then is the administration making what appears to be a blunder? It may be that it is hoping for the best. But it also seems it has set itself the wrong question. It has not asked what needs to be done to be sure of a solution. It has asked itself, instead, what is the best it can do given three arbitrary, self-imposed constraints: no nationalisation; no losses for bondholders; and no more money from Congress. Yet why does a new administration, confronting a huge crisis, not try to change the terms of debate? This timidity is depressing. Trying to make up for this mistake by imposing pettifogging conditions on assisted institutions is more likely to compound the error than to reduce it.
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:06:47pm |
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Buster Bunny Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:06:48pm |
Oooh look .. a unicorn !
What porkulus? I didnt see it *stamp* *stamp*
Oh you missed it .. too late its through .. its L .. A .. W ..
Off with his head !
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gmsc Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:06:51pm |
Related: Why Obama’s new Tarp will fail to rescue the banks
By Martin Wolf (Part 3 of 3)
Assume that the problem is insolvency and the modest market value of US commercial banks (about $400bn) derives from government support (see charts). Assume, too, that it is impossible to raise large amounts of private capital today. Then there has to be recapitalisation in one of the two ways indicated above. Both have disadvantages: government recapitalisation is a bail-out of creditors and involves temporary state administration; debt-for-equity swaps would damage bond markets, insurance companies and pension funds. But the choice is inescapable.
If Mr Geithner or Lawrence Summers, head of the national economic council, were advising the US as a foreign country, they would point this out, brutally. Dominique Strauss-Kahn, IMF managing director, said the same thing, very gently, in Malaysia last Saturday.
The correct advice remains the one the US gave the Japanese and others during the 1990s: admit reality, restructure banks and, above all, slay zombie institutions at once. It is an important, but secondary, question whether the right answer is to create new “good banks”, leaving old bad banks to perish, as my colleague, Willem Buiter, recommends, or new “bad banks”, leaving cleansed old banks to survive. I also am inclined to the former, because the culture of the old banks seems so toxic.
By asking the wrong question, Mr Obama is taking a huge gamble. He should have resolved to cleanse these Augean banking stables. He needs to rethink, if it is not already too late.
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Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:07:00pm |
$35 billion more for UAW puppets and $2 trillion more for the banks are coming.
/at least supporting the banks has a constructive purpose
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:07:14pm |
re: #16 karmic_inquisitor
Posted this on a prior thread ...
White House Announces NARCDA To Spend $70 Million As A Result Of Stimulus
I thought the Dems smoked crack when they came up with porkzilla
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:08:16pm |
The stimulus bill is an abomination that is covered in pork and lathery liberal bile.
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varmint Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:08:54pm |
if any of you have kids,
go stand in the doorway of their rooms tonight after they've gone to sleep. and flip them off. really stiff arm it. put some force into the gesture. and then hold it like that for about six hours.
that's the nearest i can think to summing up the stimulus package.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:09:13pm |
re: #20 rawmuse
Sadly, I am running out of give of darn. All of this will run its course, and the pendulum will eventually swing again. Or not.
me too!
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realwest Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:09:56pm |
Hey y'all - don't know if this has been posted yet, but Obama signed an Executive Order requiring that all employees on Federally Funded Construction Projects be Union members.
What ever happended to the "lowest bidder" aspect of government bids?!
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sngnsgt Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:10:22pm |
re: #14 jcm
LOL! I was just went looking for that but figured someone had posted posted it here already. Thx.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:10:28pm |
re: #31 Dustyvet
Oh joy a unicorn with flatulence...:P
That is part of THE One's plans to enhance our energy production. He will power DC with the methane from unicorn farts.
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:11:13pm |
re: #38 ggt
I am apathetic.
That is hard for me because I am normally positive.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:11:44pm |
re: #39 realwest
Hey y'all - don't know if this has been posted yet, but Obama signed an Executive Order requiring that all employees on Federally Funded Construction Projects be Union members.
What ever happended to the "lowest bidder" aspect of government bids?!
So, since the majority of union workers are white males, he now has a program that benefits mostly white males?
Robert Reich is gonna love this!
;)
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:11:58pm |
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Killian Bundy Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:12:06pm |
tax cuts for 95% of the American people
That would be an extra $13 in your weekly paycheck or a one time $250 lump sum if you collect Social Security.
/and you can't accuse him of breaking his campaign promise because you got a "tax cut"
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Afrocity Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:13:09pm |
A businessman boarded a plane to find, sitting next to him, an elegant woman wearing the largest, most stunning diamond ring he had ever seen. He asked her about it.
"This is the Klopman diamond," she said. "It is beautiful, but there is a terrible curse that goes with it."
"What's the curse?" the man asked.
"Mr. Klopman." she answered.
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gmsc Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:14:08pm |
re: #44 jaunte
Brother, Can You Spare A Dime?
[Video]
That goes well with this picture posted by Iowahawk.
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itellu3times Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:15:16pm |
re: #30 gmsc
Why then is the administration making what appears to be a blunder?
I'll tell you why, before dancing off to the next thread.
American business has for about a generation now, expelled any really good minds. That's why this has happened. The entire socio-economic structure that has given us this failure, is at fault and needs analysis, but heck, I've just summarized it for ya. Worse than that, ANY large organization has, and alway has, and always will, do that.
And the same force is at work when the biggest of them all, the federal government, moves to fix it. Ha! Is Geithner a first-rank mind? Is he the kind to HIRE first-class minds? I don't know much about him, but I know this much - he isn't that kind.
Of course, the other reason is that any politician anywhere, but especially the modern Democrat, will spend every dollar they can lay their mitts on under any pretext, and simply hope for the best.
Than kew, ladies and germs.
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jaunte Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:15:47pm |
re: #49 gmsc
This past week AdWeek and MarketingWeek were telling me that 'Depression chic' was the latest advertising theme. We'll be seeing more of it.
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realwest Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:16:55pm |
re: #45 gmsc Well that's what I thought at first - especially the contruction industry workers, but maybe this is just leverage (and payback for all their help in getting him elected) to Unions to hire more minorities?
Nah, it's just payback and little Bobby Reich is just gonna have to like it..........or not.
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calcajun Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:19:06pm |
Well, Colorado became a blue state this year. It's a little late in the day for them to realize they got a pig in the poke.
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Dustyvet Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:19:40pm |
Roland Burris, resign
[Link: newsblogs.chicagotribune.com...]
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calcajun Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:20:21pm |
re: #51 jaunte
This past week AdWeek and MarketingWeek were telling me that 'Depression chic' was the latest advertising theme. We'll be seeing more of it.
OK, so we're gonna see "Grapes of Wrath" chic in Nordstrom this summer? Oakie underwear in Neiman's? I sincerely doubt it.
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calcajun Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:21:09pm |
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jaunte Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:21:32pm |
re: #55 calcajun
Not the products, but watch the upcoming messages talking about 'spending your money wisely' and 'thrifty choices.'
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realwest Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:21:34pm |
re: #51 jaunte
Hey juante - did you ever see that Allstate Ad where that well dressed, well spoken Black man says "If this isn't a recession, it sure feels like one. So save money with Allstate"? He's their normal or usual spokesperson, but those ads ran numreous times every day between the Republican Convention and the Election.
Then after Election day they changed to some other meme in their advertising.
I always wondered if that wasn't a (not quite) subliminial message to vote for Obama.
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Gella Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:21:51pm |
re: #54 Dustyvet
Roland Burris, resign
[Link: newsblogs.chicagotribune.com...]
dream about it, unless he is kicked out, he is not going anywhere
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jaunte Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:23:37pm |
re: #58 realwest
Yes, I saw those. It was a bit of a slam on the (then) current economy and presumably the Bush admin. But you would have to connect a few dots.
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calcajun Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:24:01pm |
re: #57 jaunte
Not the products, but watch the upcoming messages talking about 'spending your money wisely' and 'thrifty choices.'
Yeah--don't save--keep spending--only wisely. Great.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:25:24pm |
re: #56 calcajun
More like, "Surrender Dorothy!"
No, its the Chicago Tirbune being what it should be: A newspaper that does not let corrupt pols get away with it. I am proud of the Trib's coverage of this scandal, and am finally able to read the paper again without feels of shame.
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winston06 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:28:18pm |
These pictures are so painful. It must be so painful to see your country is slipping away from you like this.
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realwest Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:29:25pm |
re: #60 jaunte Not many dots my friend - and you were speculating about marketing and advertising "depression chic" and I figured Allstate got a big jump on it - and y'all have noticed that except for AIG, NO OTHER INSURANCE COMPANY has asked for any bailouts or federal financial help - that's at least in part because they have lending operations in competition with other mortgage lenders, but the Insurance Industry didn't get it's ass chewed off by CRA, either.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:29:41pm |
re: #58 realwest
Can't think of that guys name, RW, but he is an actor. He played the president on "24" and now stars in "The Unit" I saw one of those ads two days ago so probably not what you're wondering. I love that guy but don't have any idea what his political affiliations are.
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pegcity Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:31:28pm |
re: #63 winston06
hey think us in December with the Socialist NDP/Libtard Coup
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jaunte Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:32:50pm |
re: #65 Pvt Bin Jammin
Dennis Haysbert; not a fan of G. W. Bush.
[Link: www.phase9.tv...]
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realwest Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:33:26pm |
re: #65 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hi PBJ! No, I actually wasn't talking about the actor, but about the advertising and marketing folks who came up with that ad, wrote the script and all. And I can't remember his name either, but he is a fine actor.
Just thought it a curious way to peddle insurance - auto insurance at that!
Did you hear that GM has said it may need $30 Billion from the Feds, to meet it's ongoing financial needs?
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jaunte Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:34:05pm |
re: #64 realwest
I'm sure Allstate and a lot of others saw what was coming.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:34:51pm |
re: #67 jaunte
Thanks, I'll check it out. He's probably a lib but I like his acting and voice.
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realwest Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:36:08pm |
re: #67 jaunte Yeah, that's him ok. Good actor. Abilities as a political analyst, not so much.
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kynna Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:36:49pm |
Sadly, the protest would have been bigger, but the tax-payers were all working to pay their taxes.
There will come a time when they will choose not to. Why bother?
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:37:15pm |
re: #68 realwest
Scr*w, GM, and that's coming from an old Buick dealers daughter. Pity the poor dealers lately. I'm sure the union workers make more than the small dealers.
You might be right about the Allstate ads, now that I really think about it.
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realwest Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:39:43pm |
re: #69 jaunte
Oh I agree with you my friend, but I can't recall any other TV ads that seemed to be so, ah, supportive of one particular candidate when pushing products. Course I also don't watch much TV so I can't really be sure about that.
And in your link he was talking about black men and all and Latin America and our image around the world and I kept wanting to whisper to him (75+% of America is WHITE; name one black leader in Europe). Of course the interview was done a while ago so even if he could have heard me it wouldn't have done any good! LOL!
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Pvt Bin Jammin Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:41:08pm |
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pegcity Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:43:15pm |
Boys the japanese are eating us alive in the small car market, the economy is in the shitter and gas prices are at an all time high, what do you guys have, Um we have a new Camaro with the 6.2 litre V8 small block and a 627 Hp Corvette
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wiffersnapper Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:43:41pm |
Wish I were there, but I need to graduate from university
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realwest Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:44:08pm |
re: #74 Pvt Bin Jammin
Yeah, well you know Obama hasn't even begun to repay the UAW yet for it's financial and people supporting him going door to door yet.
Still and all, while it's fun and usually right to blame the UAW, I've seen reports that the Big Two (Ford only wanted and just barely used part of a line of credit) where their financial deals with the dealerships were a big part of why they were having trouble with making a profit.
But, UAW and Dealers aside, GM and Chrysler's failings have been at least as much a product of crappy - and I mean CRAPPY management over the last decade or so.
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teleskiguy Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:46:38pm |
re: #53 calcajun
Well, Colorado became a blue state this year. It's a little late in the day for them to realize they got a pig in the poke.
Do realize that the blue state status came from the heavily populated Front Range. The eastern plains and the mountainous west are still pretty red, especially the eastern plains.
And lizards, don't worry about conservative thought in Colorado. Speaking as a born and raised resident, I can attest to a vibrant and healthy conservative contigent in Colorado. Hell, The Steamboat Pilot publishes Ann Coulter's column every Thursday (which I've tried to stop in the past via Letters to the Editors and business boycotts, to no avail). As long as the Rocky paper survives (not likely, pretty sad actually), Vince Carroll has an awesome coulmn in there, Mike Rosen has a good column (and can be heard on AM 850 about 4 hours a day during the week) and the Rocky actually has the guts to publish conservative-leaning letters to the editor every day!
Hang in there fellow lizards! The political wilderness may be depressing at times, but these pendulum swings have happened in the past and will definitely happen again. Plus, when I think of wilderness, I think of pristine waterfalls, expansive forests, wild game (yum!), elysian glacial lakes, solitude...
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realwest Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:47:22pm |
re: #79 pegcity
Well the Japanese always have been eating our lunch, again more due to poor management at GM and Chrysler (and Ford) but even Honda and Toyota are laying people off these days.
I thought it was interesting though that Bush had something like $15 Billion set aside to "help" the big three develop energy efficient cars. WTH, when did America's auto exec's not get the message about that idea before they hadda go to Bush for help in developing energy effienct cars?
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pegcity Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:53:04pm |
re: #83 realwest
i mean don't get me wrong the Camaro , GXP and Chyrslers new Charger are cool cars, but i mean guys come on you dont even have one sub compact to compete with the Japanese, and then spend billions on developing new toys for Men going through mid life crisis.
Its the Automotive version of the Family sitcom with the fat loser husband the Hot Babe Wife.
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prince of leaves Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:57:42pm |
Peoples Press Collective (not socialist like it sounds, they're a bunch of libertarians mostly) has a whole bunch of coverage of the pork protest too. Including Michelle Malkin's roast pig lunch on the capital steps.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:58:17pm |
re: #85 pegcity
i mean don't get me wrong the Camaro , GXP and Chyrslers new Charger are cool cars, but i mean guys come on you dont even have one sub compact to compete with the Japanese, and then spend billions on developing new toys for Men going through mid life crisis.
Its the Automotive version of the Family sitcom with the fat loser husband the Hot Babe Wife.
No subcompacts please. I need a full size car to accommodate my 6'4" frame.
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Viking6 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:01:17pm |
As a native of Colorado I have witnessed the fall from a bold and proud state and people as a result of the following infestations that have occurred over time:
mid 60's - hippies on the hill Boulder
late 60's early 70's - nouveau rich Texas Democrats - Vail and Aspen
early 90's - California Democrats and Greens - every place that has a view
//spit
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Wendya Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:03:32pm |
re: #39 realwest
Hey y'all - don't know if this has been posted yet, but Obama signed an Executive Order requiring that all employees on Federally Funded Construction Projects be Union members.
What ever happended to the "lowest bidder" aspect of government bids?!
Isn't that special.
So anyone being hired to work on stimulus projects will be forced by Obama to join a union and pay dues that will be used to support democrats running for office.
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Wendya Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:06:11pm |
re: #65 Pvt Bin Jammin
Can't think of that guys name, RW, but he is an actor. He played the president on "24" and now stars in "The Unit" I saw one of those ads two days ago so probably not what you're wondering. I love that guy but don't have any idea what his political affiliations are.
Dennis Haysbert. He's awesome on the Unit.
I don't know what his political affiliations are either but I'd damned sure rather have "President David Palmer" than President Barack Obama.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:09:44pm |
re: #90 Wendya
Dennis Haysbert. He's awesome on the Unit.
I don't know what his political affiliations are either but I'd damned sure rather have "President David Palmer" than President Barack Obama.
Who wouldn't? Any reasonable person would rather have someone who was left-leaning but politically sane instead of this 0 we have now.
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zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:12:41pm |
Excellent report, El Marco. If I ever had to call in sick and choose a replacement to cover an event, you'd be at the top of the list (along with Ringo the Gringo).
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teleskiguy Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:13:52pm |
By the way, Thank You Charles for the link to lookingattheleft.com. Very interesting indeed!
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Spartacus50 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:17:40pm |
Where were all these concerned Coloradans when they elected a democratic governor and two democratic senators? What on Earth were they expecting?
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Rides A Pale Horse Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:19:33pm |
A few more pics from the rally.A BIG check
Um.....NO?
Second Amendment supporter
The "Mascot"
Another sign
Obligatory
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teleskiguy Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:22:59pm |
re: #94 Spartacus50
Where were all these concerned Coloradans when they elected a democratic governor and two democratic senators? What on Earth were they expecting?
Like I said in #82, the populous Front Range (Denver, Boulder, et al, populated by people who are not natives to the state like I am) had everything to do with these Democrapic victories. The rural mountains and plains are still conservative. It's like when a presidential election happens, NYC, LA, SF and other places vote Dem, and everywhere else goes Repub. The Front Range cities of Colorado are like NYC, LA and SF, and everywhere else in Colorado is, well, everywhere else.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:24:18pm |
re: #95 Rides A Pale Horse
A few more pics from the rally.A BIG check
Um.....NO?
Second Amendment supporter
The "Mascot"
Another sign
Obligatory
I love the Second Amendment supporter photo. It shows just the right spirit.
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Spartacus50 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:28:14pm |
re: #96 teleskiguy
This may be true, but I can not recall anyone in CO getting off their ass to protest the leftward lurch the state has taken. If these people felt strongly enough to join a meaningless protest in the middle of February, where were they when it really counted?
They get what they deserve.
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Earth56 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:39:22pm |
From El Marcos site
One of the best articles I have read
Show this one to a usefull idiotIslam Clouds Bali's Horizon
Well worth a look and thank Marcos
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teleskiguy Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:42:11pm |
re: #98 Spartacus50
If these people felt strongly enough to join a meaningless protest in the middle of February, where were they when it really counted?
I'll tell you where they were, at thier jobs trying to make a living, raise thier families and other such nonsense. Notice how when something enrages the left, the signs are already made, protests are mounted, the media is involved. But when something enrages the right, we just bitch about it to our friends in church.
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Rei Ayanami Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:53:58pm |
As a Colorado native I am so proud of my state today.
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mattm Tue, Feb 17, 2009 11:03:00pm |
re: #89 Wendya
Isn't that special.
So anyone being hired to work on stimulus projects will be forced by Obama to join a union and pay dues that will be used to support democrats running for office.
And increase costs and cause the project to last three times ans long.
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Rides A Pale Horse Tue, Feb 17, 2009 11:17:58pm |
re: #98 Spartacus50
We were at work..............a foreign concept to the left. Conservatives don't do protest well.
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Amer-I-Can Wed, Feb 18, 2009 6:27:23am |
Every day, the knot in my stomach gets bigger and bigger. This is going to hurt. If (when) the balloon goes up, we can expect rioting in the streets.
What is "The One" going to do when the "Rich" decide that they have enough money and just quite making more? That will quickly remove the tax revenue from the "Wealthy", and just leave the rest of us to foot the bill for this atrocity. I don't see that going over lightly with the average Joe.
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RedDish Wed, Feb 18, 2009 6:38:56am |
I was checking out Michelle Malkin's site this morning. She has a post with a link to the kossacks, who have the 'audacity' to be 'horrified' that Mrs. Malkin had her picture taken with someone carrying a sign with the (prepare yourselves now) O in Obama made to look like a Swastika! They are appalled that someone would compare the One to that hateful symbol. After all, he IS the President.
The hypocrisy would be funny if it weren't so scary...
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]
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ssn697 Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:07:25am |
I am baffled by the title, and spin, of the story. "Colorado says no to Obama's pork package", is the claim, with a picture shwing "hundreds" turning out to protest.
Yet, further down on the same page, there is a picture of THOUSANDS turning out for a pro Obama rally in Colorado.
So, how is hundreds representative of Colorado, but not thousands?
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