We Got Mail!

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Weird • Wed Feb 18, 2009 at 8:20 pm PST • Views: 133

Sometimes the LGF Inbox gets … weird.

Tonight’s message from the Twilight Zone comes from an AOL customer somewhere in Proxyland, USA, titled: “Over Population.”

Yes, that’s two separate words, both capitalized for extra emphasis.

Evolution and Creation does not matter. Here is what matters. The world’s population is now 6.8 Billion people. Experts predict that by the year 2050 the world’s population will be 9.1 Billion people. That will be an increase of 2.3 Billion people in just 41 years. If there’s poverty, starvation, global warming and a hole in the ozone layer now, what do you think it will be like in 500 years? If the world has not been destroyed by nuclear war in the next 500 years the world’s population will be some where around 32 Billion people. When that happens there is going to be hell to pay. So I strongly suggest that you “STOP CREATING” and take your children to a doctor and have something done to prevent them from reproducing. If you don’t, your future generations will simply breed themselves to death. Spread this message to the entire world.

Hillbillie Bill

Hard to argue with that.

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1 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:22:04pm

Wow, that's just so awesome! I love the "We Got Mail" threads.

2 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:22:13pm

That is an easy one, under Obama, we eat the Rich.

3 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:22:14pm

Somebody been reading Ehrlich?

4 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:22:48pm

I suppose, somewhere out there, there must be a family doctor who will sterilize your kids for you because you're worried about world population numbers.

Thanks be to God, I have never met this person.

5 howyadoin  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:23:15pm

What the H*ll was he on?!

6 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:23:26pm

Wow! Eugenics in the inbox. Lovely.

7 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:24:16pm

Well, that can either be a) a hoax email or b) one of those Al Gore Kids (tm).

8 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:24:22pm

Charles, admit it. Somewhere in your house you have a huge moron magnet.

9 ClosetConservative  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:24:24pm

Procreate, please. Someone has to pay for Social Security.

10 iChef  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:24:37pm

I heard that people that eat carrots eventually DIE!

11 jaunte  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:24:46pm

Somewhere tonight, 'Hillbillie Bill' is going to bed alone.

12 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:25:13pm

WTF?

13 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:25:22pm
Evolution and Creation does not matter.

This is the Internet version of writing in crayon. It'd be perfect if there were random, capitalized letters.

14 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:25:22pm

I have 9 kids and 22 grandkids.

COME GET ME.

BWAHAHAA!

15 howyadoin  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:25:59pm

All I see is open land when I drive between Kingman, KS and Denver, CO. Every time I hear some "Overpop" nut spew, I can only imagine them living in the middle of some place like New York and they've never left the metro area. Maybe to only fly to another metro area. They've never seen the wide, open spaces. Actually...I don't want them too. They might move out here.

16 unclassifiable  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:26:10pm

Another Malthus devotee.

Depression carriers.

17 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:26:36pm

re: #13 MandyManners

This is the Internet version of writing in crayon. It'd be perfect if there were random, capitalized letters.

In different colors and fonts too!

18 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:26:37pm

Wow. Just... wow. I am at a loss for words, which is rare. But I did check his math, it's not too screwed up.

19 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:27:00pm

re: #17 Killer Tomato

In different colors and fonts too!

You can just smell the crazy.

20 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:27:03pm

Hillbillie Bill,

Got a link for you.

Go right ahead, I'll be right behind you...

21 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:27:26pm

I'm also not real worried about overpopulation as Nature has tended to deal with humans quite well on her own, thank you very much. Between disaters and diseases, Nature's got our number.

22 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:27:57pm

re: #18 BigPapa

Wow. Just... wow. I am at a loss for words, which is rare. But I did check his math, it's not too screwed up.

Neither was Raymond Babbitt's.

23 Kevin Walker  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:28:14pm

re: #5 howyadoin

Whatever it is, I don't want any.

24 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:28:42pm

Also- Soylent Green is people.

25 slamo  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:29:10pm

"hell to pay" is all the social security payments to these "cheaters" for the next millenium.

26 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:29:41pm

No profanity. No personal attacks. No accusations of being anti-Christian.

I'd say Hillbillie Bill is a step up from the usual mailbag posts.

27 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:29:52pm

Although, it would surprise me. 300 years from now:

"Have your child spayed or neutered today."

28 edge  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:30:04pm

Well, I guess the good news is that Hillbillie Bill won't be having any kids.

29 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:30:17pm

Make that it WOULDN'T surprise me.

30 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:30:18pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

Also- Soylent Green is people.

31 mikeymom  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:30:31pm

dear lord--thats enought to make me want to start smoking! J/K--night all and thanks for all the well wishes on last thread--luv youse guys!

32 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:30:39pm
in the next 500 years the world’s population will be some where around 32 Billion people. When that happens there is going to be hell to pay.


And I should worry about this because...?

33 ratherdashing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:30:45pm

re: #15 howyadoin

Folks don't realize how big this country is.

34 Cognito  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:30:49pm
If the world has not been destroyed by nuclear war in the next 500 years the world’s population will be some where around 32 Billion people.


First of all: Screw our great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren. They were nothing but insufferable brats anyway. They can fry.

Second: I'm hoping we've come up with something better than nuclear energy by then, because otherwise we're likely still sitting around on our crummy planet wondering what the cool kids are doing over on OGLE-2005-BLG-390Lb. And that's lame.

Third: You see 32 billion people. I see a booming market for deodorant and toilet paper. I'll be rich, baby. Rich.

35 Kevin Walker  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:31:43pm

re: #21 Sharmuta

Yep, nature always finds its balance. All it takes is one major epidemic in a tightly populated place, and voila, populations reduce. Also, food becomes more scarce if the population increases beyond nature's boundaries. We haven't reached that point here in the US (sadly, it has in other places). I doubt we will see any real overpopulation problems in our life time, or our children's life time, or our grand children's life times, and so on.

36 howyadoin  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:31:54pm

HillBillie Bill, please read this and shut up:

[Link: 2timothy42.newsvine.com...]

37 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:32:02pm
If there’s poverty, starvation, global warming and a hole in the ozone layer now ...

... then better do some extra procreation while the procreating is good.

38 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:32:05pm

This could be a very pissed off creationist, attempting sarcasm, but slipping on the banana peel of creativity.

39 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:32:35pm
Hard to argue with that.

Though I have not personally reproduced, I will argue, vigorously, that the writer is a fool.

40 wee fury  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:33:04pm

Hillbillie Bill = child hater.

41 razorbacker  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:33:09pm
Meanwhile, Rabbi Brad Hirschfield, a producer and host for Bridges TV who worked alongside the Hassans, said “now is not the time” to debate the cultural and religious context of the murder that appears to be an honor killing inspired by Aasiya Hassan’s desire to divorce her husband.

“There will be time for that later,” Hirschfield said in a statement obtained by FOXNews.com. “I will only say to those who leap to the conclusion that this kind of thing is intrinsic to Islam, ask yourselves if you think that drunkenness is intrinsic to Irish Catholics, or cheating in business is to Jews?”

Bwahahaha

42 Devil's Advocate  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:33:10pm

re: #38 Charles

This could be a very pissed off creationist, attempting sarcasm, but slipping on the banana peel of creativity.

Charles, I haven't heard your opinions on overpopulation. You don't agree with this guy do you?

43 jaunte  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:33:23pm

In the Year 2525

44 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:34:19pm

Nuclear war, global warming, overpopulation, hole in the ozone, famine.

I think he got everything.

I wonder if he ever goes out of his house.

45 jorline  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:34:20pm

Sounds like a Chinese government official.

Party member Hillbillieson Yobill Phat.

46 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:34:27pm

re: #18 BigPapa

Wow. Just... wow. I am at a loss for words, which is rare. But I did check his math, it's not too screwed up.

His math assumes no changes in current rates of population growth.

47 razorbacker  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:34:30pm

How come so few of those so worried about Over Population do the obvious thing?

48 Basho  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:34:34pm

When confronting the issue of overpopulation, political correctness has everyone ignoring the obvious 500lb gorilla in the room; It isn't Western nations that are the problem...

49 iChef  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:34:50pm

I think I read somewhere if you put the entire population of the earth in Texas the population density would be less than New York City.

50 Kevin Walker  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:35:19pm

re: #35 commadore183

And also, I doubt there will be 32 billion people living on Earth after 500 years. We'll be colonized on Mars, the Moon, and other planets WAY before that problem come up.

51 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:35:22pm

I'm hoping that in 500 years we will have colonized the moon, Mars and maybe beyond. Last thing I would worry about is overpopulation.

52 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:35:23pm

re: #44 Noam Sayin'

Nuclear war, global warming, overpopulation, hole in the ozone, famine.

I think he got everything.

I wonder if he ever goes out of his house.

He missed, war, plague and pestilence,

53 Gretchen  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:35:50pm
Evolution and Creation does not matter.

And neither "do" grammar, Hillbillie Bill.

54 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:36:07pm

Hmmm - say Charles, was this written in crayon on lined paper and if so, did he stay within the lines?!
Sorry not much more to say about this letter.

55 OldLineTexan  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:36:17pm

re: #52 jcm

He missed, war, plague and pestilence,

Cats and dogs living together ...

56 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:36:17pm

re: #26 Ringo the Gringo

No profanity. No personal attacks. No accusations of being anti-Christian.

I'd say Hillbillie Bill is a step up from the usual mailbag posts.

But the nuttiness - and the sheer offensiveness - are off the scale.

57 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:36:21pm
If you don’t, your future generations will simply breed themselves to death.

Why is it all the cool stuff happens in the future? To hell with our descendants, I want to boink to death NOW!

58 howyadoin  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:36:24pm

re: #36 howyadoin

I know there is a small snipe at Evolution in there, please ignore it and read on. Good info in response to overpopulation hysteria.

59 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:36:25pm

re: #52 jcm

He missed, war, plague and pestilence,


Dogs and cats living together...

60 freedombilly  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:36:44pm

Notice this whackjob went by Bill and not Billy. Just clarifying.

Take all of your children to the doctor...it is covered in the Porkulus package. You will get a check covering your expenses in the mail soon.

61 Catttt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:36:50pm
Tonight’s message from the Twilight Zone

Twilight? Did someone say Twilight? Excuse to link a clip!

62 howyadoin  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:36:58pm

re: #49 iChef

see the article I link to above. Ignore the snipe at evolution.

63 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:37:11pm

re: #55 OldLineTexan

re: #59 VioletTiger

Eight seconds...

64 Cognito  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:37:14pm

As Yogi Berra would say, "Nobody lives on Earth anymore. It's too crowded."

65 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:37:14pm

re: #28 edge

Well, I guess the good news is that Hillbillie Bill won't be having any kids.

Oh, no. That's for the "little people"; I'm sure Hillbillie Bill thinks his kids are just fine.

66 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:37:16pm

"Don't worry folks. By then we'll have crossed human genes with fish genes and will have successfully populated the seas. If Don Knots did it, so can we!"

/s

67 irongrampa  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:37:23pm

So many causes, so little time.

68 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:37:58pm
I strongly suggest that you “STOP CREATING”

Just what we need - a bunch of unemployed artists, musicians, dancers, actors...

69 howyadoin  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:38:03pm

From the article:

The current world population is 6.6 billion people. The most dense city in terms of population is Manilla with 41,014 people per square kilometer. What does this mean? We can fit the entire world population in the state of Washington. Or maybe better put, humans only take up .108% of all the land on the globe, or .032% of the entire globe (including bodies of water).

Ok, but you say, Andy, who would want to live in Manilla. Fair enough, lets compare it to what I call the "good life." Fort Wayne, IN has a population density of 1,071 people per square kilometer. This means you can fit the the entire world population in the states west of the Mississippi plus Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina and Florida. Or better put, 4.114% of all the land on the globe, or 1.208% of the entire globe (including bodies of water).

70 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:38:20pm

Bed time.

G'night, realwest.

71 Gretchen  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:38:29pm

Actually the Obamessiah has used so much fuel in the past week it is mind-boggling. Washington to Chicago, Chicago to Washington, Washington to Denver, Denver to Washington and Washington to Arizona. I don't believe in AGW one bit but I don't think wasting resources is wise either.

72 unclassifiable  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:39:01pm

re: #65 Dianna

Oh, no. That's for the "little people"; I'm sure Hillbillie Bill thinks his kids are just fine.

Yes, Installment #458091013 of the "I got mine! Screw you!" school of thought.

73 Cognito  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:39:21pm

It's funny how the word looks misspelled when it's written "CREATING."

I can't help but see it as "kreeting."

74 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:39:23pm

Sounds like someone from The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

75 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:39:27pm

re: #44 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! Nope - he is a survivalist! Stays in his bunker, only goes out when he runs out of his drugs meds whatever gets him through the day, doesn't even walk his dog cause some one could pick him off!
Oh and btw - how are you doing tonight?

76 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:39:30pm

Guess what I got when I serched Hillbillie Bill?

77 ratherdashing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:39:40pm
78 Edge  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:39:49pm

We should remember that there are environmental extremists in Europe who sound just like Hillbillie Bill.

79 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:40:09pm

re: #63 Noam Sayin'

re: #59 VioletTiger

Eight seconds...


Two Ghost Busters fans, apparently.

80 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:40:10pm

re: #76 HelloDare

Yikes!

81 jorline  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:40:15pm

Hillbillie Bill = inbreader

82 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:40:19pm

This Hillbilly also isn't taking into consideration what sorts of advances might be made in the future with medicines, bioengineering, energy- it's possible we'd be able to develop new science and technology to allow more people to live, and live longer, than ever before.

Silly, eugenicist.

83 Catttt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:40:22pm

Was this spam? It sounds like spam.

84 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:40:36pm

re: #49 iChef

I think I read somewhere if you put the entire population of the earth in Texas the population density would be less than New York City.

Try Stand on Zanzibar. Or, The Sheep Look Up.

1970's dystopian novels, depressing as hell, wrong, wrong, wrong, but very well written.

85 jaunte  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:40:41pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Sounds like someone from The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

"Crowded conditions and resource shortages will improve as we become less dense."

Hmm.

86 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:40:43pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Sounds like someone from The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

Attention. Pay close attention to tonight's episode of LOST. The best of the season. Will blow your mind (Oh, wait, you did that to yourself the other night LOL)

87 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:02pm

re: #74 Killgore Trout

Sounds like someone from The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

That's a gag, right?

88 unclassifiable  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:05pm

re: #76 HelloDare

That is disturbing bordering on "mind bleach muratic acid" level.

89 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:10pm
Hard to argue with that.

I too find it hard to argue when I am laughing hysterically.

90 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:21pm

re: #76 HelloDare

Guess what I got when I serched Hillbillie Bill?

AAAHHH!

91 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:22pm
92 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:28pm

re: #70 Noam Sayin'
Hey whaddya mean "good night"?!? It's still early yet isn't it?!

Good night Noam, sleep well.

93 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:31pm

Evolution and Creation doesn't matter...
Do or do not, there is no try.
Wisdom from yoda bill.

94 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:32pm

re: #66 Gus 802

"Don't worry folks. By then we'll have crossed human genes with fish genes and will have successfully populated the seas. If Don Knots did it, so can we!"

/s

SEA KITTENS WITH FEET!...:)

95 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:39pm

re: #82 Sharmuta

This Hillbilly also isn't taking into consideration what sorts of advances might be made in the future with medicines, bioengineering, energy- it's possible we'd be able to develop new science and technology to allow more people to live, and live longer, than ever before.

Silly, eugenicist.

And he is certainly not accounting for the shit hitting the fan and it all goes south tomorrow.

96 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:47pm

The is only one certainty in the Universe: The ignorance of Liberals, Democrats and Moonbats:

The Population Bomb

Author Paul R. Ehrlich

"The Population Bomb (1968) is a book written by Paul R. Ehrlich. A best-selling work, it predicted disaster for humanity due to overpopulation and the "population explosion". The book predicted that "in the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death", that nothing can be done to avoid mass famine greater than any in the history, and radical action is needed to limit the overpopulation. History proved Ehrlich wrong, as the mass starvations predicted for the 1970s and 1980s never occurred."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

97 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:41:57pm

re: #87 Sharmuta

That's a gag, right?

No, it is not. It is for very real.

98 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:42:04pm
99 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:42:13pm

re: #51 VioletTiger

I'm hoping that in 500 years we will have colonized the moon, Mars and maybe beyond. Last thing I would worry about is overpopulation.

Read Killing Star. Then we start frantically working on getting us well spread out, and beyond our solar system.

That book has kept me awake more nights than I really like confessing.

100 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:42:22pm

re: #82 Sharmuta

Or -

"I firmly believe, that before many centuries more, science will be the master of man. The engines he will have invented will be beyond his strength to control. Someday, science shall have the existence of mankind in its power, and the human race commit suicide by blowing up the world."
Henry Adams
April 11, 1862

101 Basho  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:42:28pm

re: #76 HelloDare

Guess what I got when I serched Hillbillie Bill?

Isn't that the Toxic Crusader?

102 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:42:35pm

re: #41 razorbacker

Good grief.

103 jorline  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:42:40pm

re: #76 HelloDare

Guess what I got when I serched Hillbillie Bill?

lmao

104 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:42:56pm

re: #86 Walter L. Newton

I'm watch last week's rerun now. I'm a little melancholy tonight. A nice new episode of Lost will surely cheer me up.

105 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:43:25pm

re: #87 Sharmuta

We've debated it here before. I think they're serious.

106 Rich H  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:43:42pm

re: #1 BigPapa

I don't agree. From what I've heard, the total human population is projected to stabilize and then begin decreasing late in this century. The reason? Prosperous societies have low birth rates. As the world becomes more prosperous, total population growth will slow and eventually go negative.

107 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:43:55pm

re: #96 ted

Don't you just love it. There he was predicting the end of the world for the 1970s and 1980s. Reminds me of the Global Cooling fad.

108 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:44:01pm

You know what was a big bomb? The book The Population Bomb.
(1968) by Paul R. Ehrlich.

A best-selling work, it predicted disaster for humanity due to overpopulation and the "population explosion". The book predicted that "in the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death", that nothing can be done to avoid mass famine greater than any in the history, and radical action is needed to limit the overpopulation. History proved Ehrlich wrong, as the mass starvations predicted for the 1970s and 1980s never occurred.
109 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:44:39pm

re: #87 Sharmuta

That's a gag, right?

It gags me.

110 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:44:48pm
111 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:45:00pm

re: #104 Killgore Trout

I'm watch last week's rerun now. I'm a little melancholy tonight. A nice new episode of Lost will surely cheer me up.

Listen carefully, they have been barreling forward with information. And some of the dialog is wonderful tonight.

112 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:45:03pm

re: #104 Killgore Trout
I quit watching Lost, they got off the island went back to the island, the island jumps through time? I gave up. I'll stick to cylon skin job babes with glowing spines!

113 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:45:12pm

re: #100 Killer Tomato

Or -

"I firmly believe, that before many centuries more, science will be the master of man. The engines he will have invented will be beyond his strength to control. Someday, science shall have the existence of mankind in its power, and the human race commit suicide by blowing up the world."
Henry Adams
April 11, 1862

Deja Vu is really a glitch in the Matrix.

114 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:45:15pm

re: #51 VioletTiger

I'm hoping that in 500 years we will have colonized the moon, Mars and maybe beyond. Last thing I would worry about is overpopulation.

If we hollow out the Earth, it could house trillions.

Or build a Ringworld or Dyson Sphere, ...

115 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:45:18pm

re: #69 howyadoin

P.J. O'Rourke pointed out that Bangladesh has the same population density as Fremont, California.

I've lived in Fremont. It's not that bad.

This says that it's not how many people per square mile that's the problem.

116 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:45:47pm

"Scratch the skin of a Liberal and you will Uncover a Facist"

Forced Sterilizations?

117 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:45:59pm

Two cases of GMTA tonight.

118 Catttt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:46:22pm

re: #85 jaunte

"Crowded conditions and resource shortages will improve as we become less dense."

Hmm.

Heh.

So many things could result from becoming less dense: better job, more interesting at parties, float better...

119 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:46:24pm

re: #108 HelloDare

You know what was a big bomb? The book The Population Bomb.
(1968) by Paul R. Ehrlich.

I went back to college in the '90s.
They were still pushing that thing.

120 SFGoth  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:46:34pm

Uhhh, if the First World stops reproducing, what are you left with? No, the evil capitalists generally *aren't* reproducing; it's the 3rd world that's breeding like rabbits. (Although when they get around to aborting every female fetus...)

121 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:46:46pm

re: #114 itellu3times
Niven has a prequel out to Ringworld, but I can't find it in my local bookstore. :(

122 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:46:52pm

re: #106 Rich H

What do you not agree with? How can you disagree with me loving the 'We Got Mail' threads?

Maybe you meant to disagree with another point...

123 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:46:57pm

re: #108 HelloDare

You know what was a big bomb? The book The Population Bomb.
(1968) by Paul R. Ehrlich.

It's Obama's science advisor's Bible.

124 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:47:02pm

re: #96 ted
Yeah, but Paul R. Ehrlich got rich writing that crap, didn't he?
As P.T.Barnum and Rahm Emmanuel said, "There's a sucker born everyday!".

125 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:47:06pm

Giant rat caught in China
A giant rat with one-inch-long teeth has been caught in the southern Chinese province of Fujian.


Anybody know where John Kerry is?


/s

126 jaunte  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:47:43pm

re: #120 SFGoth

Uhhh, if the First World stops reproducing, what are you left with? No, the evil capitalists generally *aren't* reproducing; it's the 3rd world that's breeding like rabbits. (Although when they get around to aborting every female fetus...)

The "Wars of the Bare Branches" tend to depress the population growth.

127 rain of lead  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:47:56pm

interesting...
Cali Senate Repubs oust leader over budget
Hmmm the (R's) in Cali seem to have found a pair (for the moment)

128 Salamantis  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:48:05pm

I can imagine this guy as a cynical genemonger, donating semen to every sperm bank around, while emailing everyone to sterilize, and cut down on his progeny's competition.

But where birth control is lacking, death control (famine, war, disease) will prevail. Life will find a way. And death will, too.

129 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:48:16pm

re: #112 pingjockey

I almost gave up a while ago. Too much time off between new episodes, the story lines were lagging and the witting wasn't very good. They're back on track now.

130 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:48:16pm
131 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:48:25pm

re: #82 Sharmuta

This Hillbilly also isn't taking into consideration what sorts of advances might be made in the future with medicines, bioengineering, energy- it's possible we'd be able to develop new science and technology to allow more people to live, and live longer, than ever before.

Silly, eugenicist.

He's not a eugenicist - or at least one cannot infer that from his email. He's a fearful soul, who believes we're heading for a world like that of the Pierson's Puppeteers. Crowded, and (without very aggressive technology) smothering in its own waste heat.

132 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:48:43pm

re: #125 Dustyvet

Giant rat caught in China
A giant rat with one-inch-long teeth has been caught in the southern Chinese province of Fujian.

Anybody know where John Kerry is?

/s

This wasn't the Giant Rat of Sumatra, was it?

133 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:49:01pm

re: #129 Killgore Trout
Okay, I'll give it a whirl.

134 Cognito  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:49:01pm

re: #124 realwest

Yeah, but Paul R. Ehrlich got rich writing that crap, didn't he?
As P.T.Barnum and Rahm Emmanuel said, "There's a sucker born everyday!".

In 500 years there will be a thousand suckers born every day.

It's gonna be great

135 teleskiguy  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:49:02pm

I believe we've tried to control the population on a mass scale as Hillbillie Bill suggests, it was called the holocaust! Fuck you Hillbillie Bill, you're a moron!

136 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:49:16pm

Hey, Hillbillie Bill. You know how you can stop creating? Squeal like a pig.

137 Gretchen  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:49:27pm

re: #77 ratherdashing
from the article:

Culture, religion doesn't play a role," said defense attorney James Harrington, reacting to speculation that the crime may have been an "honor killing." Experts say such killings are still accepted among fanatical Muslim men, including in the couple's native Pakistan, who feel betrayed by their wives.

Nope, no honor killing here. The AP says so.

138 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:49:29pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

Also- Soylent Green is people.

And darn tasty, too. Try some with jam. Or SPAM. It's good--and good for you.

139 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:49:32pm

re: #103 jorline
Hey jorline! Say, didja by any chance get my e-mail tonight (don't know if I sent it to the right e-mail addy)?

140 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:49:35pm

re: #132 Kosh's Shadow

This wasn't the Giant Rat of Sumatra, was it?

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

141 NukeAtomrod  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:49:51pm

Thank you, Mr. Nutball!

142 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:49:54pm

I did a quick check of Hot Air. Readers are now complaining about too many atheist threads.

143 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:50:09pm

re: #91 Iron Fist

There's always nuclear war to fall back on if we ever need to do an emergency depopulation of a continent or two (Why do I have the feeling that this whackjob would nod sagely and say "You know, you're right" when told that little homily?)

He probably doesn't care how the population is reduced.

144 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:50:23pm

re: #132 Kosh's Shadow

This wasn't the Giant Rat of Sumatra, was it?

That is a called a "dog" you inbred morons!

Either that, of Louisiana's nutria export program is working.

145 Gella  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:50:24pm

complete hillbilly, think outside the box

146 Catttt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:50:28pm

re: #121 pingjockey

Niven has a prequel out to Ringworld, but I can't find it in my local bookstore. :(

Fleet of Worlds? It's available for download to Kindle. :D

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

147 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:50:29pm

re: #125 Dustyvet

Giant rat caught in China
A giant rat with one-inch-long teeth has been caught in the southern Chinese province of Fujian.

Anybody know where John Kerry is?

/s

That solves feeding the world problem.

148 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:50:31pm

re: #125 Dustyvet
China.

149 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:50:40pm

re: #107 Gus 802

Don't you just love it. There he was predicting the end of the world for the 1970s and 1980s. Reminds me of the Global Cooling fad.

Every 10 years they come up with a new socialist fraud to rob:

Global Cooling/Warming/ SARS, Heterosexual AIDS, Bird Flu, DDT, etc.

150 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:50:52pm

Try this search:

[Link: www.google.com...]

151 razorbacker  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:51:15pm
Yet ideology, at least as a mass phenomenon, is a comparatively recent development in human history.

Who, then, are ideologists? They are people needy of purpose in life, not in a mundane sense (earning enough to eat or to pay the mortgage, for example) but in the sense of transcendence of the personal, of reassurance that there is something more to existence than existence itself. The desire for transcendence does not occur to many people struggling for a livelihood. Avoiding material failure gives quite sufficient meaning to their lives. By contrast, ideologists have few fears about finding their daily bread. Their difficulty with life is less concrete. Their security gives them the leisure, their education the need, and no doubt their temperament the inclination, to find something above and beyond the flux of daily life.

Theo Dalrymple @ City Jornal

152 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:51:18pm

re: #36 howyadoin

This "fit the population of the Earth" into some arbitrary physical space argument doesn't take into account resource usage, however.

The proper calculation is, assuming a certain agricultural productivity, how many people can the total available arable land of the planet support?

(And of course, that argument doesn't take into account the effects of developing nanotechnology to the point where we can essentially reorganize matter at will, with maximum efficiency and zero waste.)

153 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:51:33pm

re: #131 Dianna

He's calling for mass sterilization.

154 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:51:40pm

re: #146 Cattt
Thank you. Couldn't think of the name!

155 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:51:42pm

re: #110 Iron Fist

Oh, no. They are deadly serious. The Leftwingers are scary-crazy when you start really examining them. Remember, Charles Manson was a hippie "Peace-and-Love"er.

Lets not forget Jim Jones, who was a firm believer in Apostolic Socialism while getting high, molseting and terrorizing his parishoners and dishing out cyanide-tainted Kool-Aid while he chose to eat a bullet himself.

156 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:51:57pm
157 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:51:58pm

Found this:

This is a message for Regis and Kelly. The world's population is now 6.8 Billion people. Experts predict that by the year 2050 the world's population will be 9.1 Billion people. That will be an increase of 2.3 Billion people in just 41 years. The U.S. population is now 305,000,000 people. The U.S. had an increase of 11,000,000 people from 2003 to 2008. That means if 1,000,000 people committed suicide every year for the next 5 years the U.S. population would still increase by 6,000,000 people. Japan has already cut their people back to one child per family. And even then their population will still continue to increase. Scientists have already said that there is a hole in the ozone layer. We have poverty, starvation, global warming and a hole in the ozone layer because we are over populated. The higher the population gets the worse things are. When this earth gets over populated with about 50,000,000,000 people and the ozone layer is gone your future generations will suffer hell like they've never suffered hell before. Do the word's "STARVATION" and "CANNIBALISM" mean anything? There are only two ways to stop this from happening. The first way is to stop creating and tell your children when they grow up not to create. If you have to, take them to a doctor and have something done to prevent them from reproducing. The second way is to thin out the herd. Get the Government of each country to let whoever wants to commit suicide do it. The Government can help with assisted suicide. People commit suicide anyway. So why not help them. If you or your future generations don't do something to stop the over population problem then I'm afraid your future generations will simply breed themselves to death. Make sure Regis and Kelly read this. Spread this message to the entire world. Byeyouall, Hillbillie Bill

158 Catttt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:00pm

re: #138 calcajun

And darn tasty, too. Try some with jam. Or SPAM. It's good--and good for you.

Lose the jam and it's low carb, too.

159 Rich H  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:16pm

re: #122 BigPapa

Quite right. Sorry. Still a fledgling here.

160 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:25pm

re: #130 Iron Fist

Birth permits. Forced abortions. Age- and health- dependant Mandatory euthanasia.

All powered by Obama's magic unicorn pixie dust. There's a reason why these people scare the living hell out of me. And I don't scare easy.

Me too, bro.

161 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:28pm

re: #91 Iron Fist

There's always nuclear war to fall back on if we ever need to do an emergency depopulation of a continent or two (Why do I have the feeling that this whackjob would nod sagely and say "You know, you're right" when told that little homily?)

I suggest Rosie O'Donnell host a late night talk show. If the last image a man has each day is her mug, I guarantee the birth rates will drop dramatically.

162 Gella  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:34pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

He's calling for mass sterilization.

will it be covered by O plan?

163 Throbert McGee  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:39pm

re: #11 jaunte

Somewhere tonight, 'Hillbillie Bill' is going to bed alone.

Or maybe he's going to bed with Hillbillie Phil.

164 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:41pm

re: #125 Dustyvet

Giant rat caught in China
A giant rat with one-inch-long teeth has been caught in the southern Chinese province of Fujian.


Anybody know where John Kerry is?

12,000 miles away?

165 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:43pm

This guy might be for real. Piece of work no doubt. Probably some homeless guy in a library.

166 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:49pm

re: #150 Gus 802

Huh, it seems he's affiliated with Riverside United Methodist Church. he seems quite serious about his population theories.

167 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:52pm

re: #106 Rich H

I don't agree. From what I've heard, the total human population is projected to stabilize and then begin decreasing late in this century. The reason? Prosperous societies have low birth rates. As the world becomes more prosperous, total population growth will slow and eventually go negative.

That does assume (and I sincerely hope it's the case) that the Islamists do not expand their influence, and deny women education.

The fastest way to limit birth rates is to educate girls to at least a high school level.

168 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:55pm
take your children to a doctor and have something done to prevent them from reproducing

and the good news is that if everybody did it, in 100 years or so the population would be reduced to say...NOTHING!

169 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:52:56pm

re: #147 jcm

That solves feeding the world problem.

170 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:53:09pm

re: #125 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty! I heard Kerry navigated incorrectly again and is now in Cambodia again!

171 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:53:49pm

Somebody posted this a few days ago. Forgot who.

Teach the controversy t-shirts.

172 Catttt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:54:02pm

re: #154 pingjockey

Thank you. Couldn't think of the name!

Larry Niven, bless him, is how I discovered sci fi years ago. Someone seeded a free story of his that pointed to fictionwise (e-books) with a whole bunch more of his stuff. Read them all, then branched out.

I love the Pierson's Puppeteers. Talk about unique.

173 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:54:19pm

re: #164 itellu3times

12,000 miles away?

Oh, up the Mekong River without a paddle again...:)


/s

174 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:54:34pm

Hillbilly Bill was a scientist
and a scientist was he
he called for his pipe
and he called for his bowl
and he called for his LSD

175 unclassifiable  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:54:36pm

re: #141 NukeAtomrod

Thank you, Mr. Noutball!

FTFY

176 Killer Tomato  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:54:48pm

Ugh - work tomorrow and its late. Gotta get to bed.
See you all around the campus!

177 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:54:51pm

I am hoping to go permanent at my job some time soon, so I can work on a third (and likely final) child.

I hope to live long enough that I can't really take care of myself. When that day comes, I trust my kids a lot more than I would trust some government bureaucrat to make decisions for me. The more kids you have, the more likely that kid who you will need to be there for you will be there for you.

178 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:55:24pm

Hillbilly Bill = Son of Unabomber? Perhaps.

179 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:55:54pm

re: #157 Gus 802

Good find.

180 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:56:03pm

I think this guy is a classic Level 3 moran.

181 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:57:06pm

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I did a quick check of Hot Air. Readers are now complaining about too many atheist threads.

Allahpundit's one of their lead writers. What do they expect?!

182 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:57:15pm

re: #172 Cattt
Oh yeah. Great aliens. I need to find some of his older stuff. I have Tales of known space, a gift from earth, 4 ringworld books and the ones he's written with Pornelle.

183 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:57:23pm

Hillbillie Bill is on the left:


184 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:57:31pm

re: #178 calcajun

Hillbilly Bill = Son of Unabomber? Perhaps.

Who would have sex with the Unabomber? Ick.

185 VioletTiger  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:57:32pm

re: #176 Killer Tomato

Ugh - work tomorrow and its late. Gotta get to bed.
See you all around the campus!


Yes, 'nite all.

186 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:58:02pm

re: #181 Dianna

Allahpundit's one of their lead writers. What do they expect?!

They expect to be catered to.

187 NukeAtomrod  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:58:11pm

re: #131 Dianna

He's not a eugenicist - or at least one cannot infer that from his email. He's a fearful soul, who believes we're heading for a world like that of the Pierson's Puppeteers. Crowded, and (without very aggressive technology) smothering in its own waste heat.

More like Soylent Green, where we'll have to eat excess old people minced and formed into tasty chartreuse wafers.

188 jaunte  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:58:15pm

re: #182 pingjockey

The Man-Kzin Wars series is fun, too.

189 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:58:18pm

re: #173 Dustyvet

Oh, up the Mekong River without a paddle again...:)

Oh, he's got a paddle up his mekong alrighty ...

190 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:58:50pm

re: #183 ted

Ooo! Nice music.

191 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:58:50pm

re: #184 MandyManners

Who would have sex with the Unabomber? Ick.

I shudder to think. But we were talking about Ned Beatty the other day...

192 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:58:52pm

re: #188 jaunte
Yep. You scream, then leap.

193 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:58:54pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

He's calling for mass sterilization.

Voluntary mass sterilization - and he wants "us" to sterilize our kids. He's not advocating the sterilization of any one singled-out group.

He's vile, a fool, probably a bigot; but...let us stick to the hilarious, ridiculous evidence.

194 lostlakehiker  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:58:54pm

Thing about evolution is, it's a scientific fact that those who act on these messages just clear an easier road for those who don't. So it's a stupid idea.

The earth, and humanity, will survive. If we really do overshoot and collapse, at the end of it, enough of us will still be there to make a better job of it the next time civilization rises. My guess is that it won't collapse. Not globally. The last one standing will have no competition.

195 Catttt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:59:14pm

re: #182 pingjockey

Oh yeah. Great aliens. I need to find some of his older stuff. I have Tales of known space, a gift from earth, 4 ringworld books and the ones he's written with Pornelle.

You can get a lot of them used on Amazon, and many of the booksellers ship free. God, I love Amazon.

196 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:59:30pm

re: #184 MandyManners
A lot of the serial killers have groupies. Gaaah.

197 twincitiesgirl  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:59:39pm
Somebody been reading Ehrlich?

I remember when my 14 year old older sister went crazy making posters about zero population growth. She was pretty obsessed about the subject. My mom's cryptic remark after seeing the huge display,"too bad birth control isn't retroactive". I was only 7 so it went over my head, but she was onto something. I wonder if Mr Hillbillie would volunteer for this noble experiment.

198 Catttt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:59:53pm

re: #191 calcajun

I shudder to think. But we were talking about Ned Beatty the other day...

Thank you so much for that visual.

199 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 8:59:58pm

re: #182 pingjockey

Oh yeah. Great aliens. I need to find some of his older stuff. I have Tales of known space, a gift from earth, 4 ringworld books and the ones he's written with Pornelle.

Hope you've caught his Warlock stories, and "The Magic Goes Away".

200 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:00:08pm

re: #195 Cattt
I need to go and browse!

201 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:00:37pm

re: #159 Rich H

NP. I was wondering how anybody could argue with such magnificent logic in the email to Charles. I mean, it's just brilliant.

202 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:00:39pm

Hillbillie Bill just might be Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Here is an anagram of Hillbillie Bill

Hill Bill Lib Lie

203 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:00:51pm

re: #152 Dar ul Harb

This "fit the population of the Earth" into some arbitrary physical space argument doesn't take into account resource usage, however.

The proper calculation is, assuming a certain agricultural productivity, how many people can the total available arable land of the planet support?

(And of course, that argument doesn't take into account the effects of developing nanotechnology to the point where we can essentially reorganize matter at will, with maximum efficiency and zero waste.)

Um. The actual limiting factor is - and will remain - potable water.

204 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:01:06pm

re: #183 ted

No, here he is...

and his brother.

205 razorbacker  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:01:25pm

Nytol

206 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:01:42pm

re: #199 itellu3times
I bought the "Magic goes away" for my 17 year old. "dad, dad, that is so cool"! Umm yeah Dad knows these things.

207 Red Sea Desjardini Tang  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:01:56pm

In truth, I worry about my children's future for that reason, given that I can remember what the fishing was like when there were 3 billion or so people around; although I'm not sure why the warning came to Charles.

Perhaps the influence of LGF is even greater than suspected?

208 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:02:05pm

re: #190 Gus 802

Ooo! Nice music.

Great Movie...Great Soundtrack...Don't Miss it!

209 mattm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:02:09pm

OT Ariena Huffington(sp?) will be on Leno tonight

210 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:02:11pm

re: #100 Killer Tomato

Or -

"I firmly believe, that before many centuries more, science will be the master of man. The engines he will have invented will be beyond his strength to control. Someday, science shall have the existence of mankind in its power, and the human race commit suicide by blowing up the world."
Henry Adams
April 11, 1862

Ah, the Cylon option.

211 Throbert McGee  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:02:21pm

re: #132 Kosh's Shadow

This wasn't the Giant Rat of Sumatra, was it?

Wait, are you talking about the Sumatran Rat-Monkey?

"Awl these huge rets come a-crawlin' orf the slyve ships and RYPE the poor li'l tree monkeys! An' tha's how them ret-monkeys was born..."

212 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:02:32pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

Huh, it seems he's affiliated with Riverside United Methodist Church. he seems quite serious about his population theories.

Riverside?

213 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:02:57pm

re: #187 NukeAtomrod

More like Soylent Green, where we'll have to eat excess old people minced and formed into tasty chartreuse wafers.

And sing Soylent Night at Christmas time.

214 Throbert McGee  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:03:28pm

re: #125 Dustyvet

A giant rat with one-inch-long teeth has been caught in the southern Chinese province of Fujian.

Anybody know where John Kerry is?

Standing on the kitchen table going "eek"?

215 pingjockey  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:03:29pm

Night folks.

216 Pastorius  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:04:01pm

That sounds like a joke to me.

217 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:04:42pm

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I did a quick check of Hot Air. Readers are now complaining about too many atheist threads.

Hey! That sounds kinda familiar...

218 Catttt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:04:51pm

OT (hat tip hotair):

Betsy McCaughey, Ph.D, is really ticked at MSNBC and Keith Olberbite.

Don't Believe What You Hear on Countdown: Keith Olbermann's Factual Errors

You go, Dr. McCaughey.

219 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:04:55pm

re: #204 calcajun

No, here he is...

[Video]

and his brother.

Classic Stuff...

220 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:05:25pm

And whose to say all those people have to use land the same way we do today?

Arcology, anyone?

Kind of "New Urbanism" meets Bauhaus.

(Of course, high density living means an inviting terrorist target...)

221 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:05:30pm

I'm complaining about too many complaints

222 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:06:01pm

re: #206 pingjockey

I bought the "Magic goes away" for my 17 year old. "dad, dad, that is so cool"! Umm yeah Dad knows these things.

Ever read Saberhagen's "Empire of the East"? If you liked "Magic Goes Away", trust me on this one!

If it's still in print ...

223 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:07:38pm

re: #221 Shug

I'm complaining about too many complaints

Complaints may be filed in person with S. Beaumont. Level 5, room 21.

224 Dianna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:07:50pm

re: #220 Dar ul Harb

And whose to say all those people have to use land the same way we do today?

Arcology, anyone?

Kind of "New Urbanism" meets Bauhaus.

(Of course, high density living means an inviting terrorist target...)

"Consider it as evolution in action!"

And with that, I go to walk my dogs and head for bed.

Take care!

225 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:08:05pm

re: #222 itellu3times

Or the twenty-seven "Swords" books that he wrote after ... of which the first three are pretty good. Excuse me - excellent, just a bit derivative of Empire. Saberhagen is an excellent wordsmith.

226 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:09:32pm

re: #203 Dianna

Um. The actual limiting factor is - and will remain - potable water.

Well, there's plenty of fresh water, if you have the energy to desalinate it.

(Or, in the case of nanotech, make a smart membrane or active surface that will sort out the water from the impurities.)

227 Timbre  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:10:00pm

So portraying President Bush as a chimp is A-OK with almost all liberals, but linking a current cartoon chimpanzee with President Obama is racist. Right...

228 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:10:28pm

Hey Billy, Maisey Mae is callin'ya for supper. Just make sure you know what's in the pot.
/a

229 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:12:02pm

re: #228 Attaboid

Daisy Mae

230 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:12:38pm

re: #229 Gus 802

Ellie Mae. And Granny.

231 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:13:24pm

She weren't no Daisey.

232 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:13:33pm

re: #230 Sharmuta

Her too! Ha. My grandma in Argentina could have been a double for Granny.

233 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:13:51pm

ONLY on LGF could we make so many comments out of such thin material (no offense to you Charles)!
230+ comments on this? Well ok, mayber 30 were OT, but I mean, really?!

234 Yankee Division Son  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:14:23pm

Fannie Mae and Frankie..

/wait, what thread is this?

235 Throbert McGee  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:14:23pm

re: #171 HelloDare

Somebody posted this a few days ago. Forgot who.

Teach the controversy t-shirts.

Those are awesome -- particularly the one that has the Devil in gardener's overalls planting dinosaur fossils!

(Although I'm not sure I get the one featuring a teapot -- I mean, is that a reference to some specific pseudo-scientific notion that I'm missing?)

236 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:14:54pm

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I did a quick check of Hot Air. Readers are now complaining about too many atheist threads.

It's hilarious! Now they're accusing people who don't toe their hate Hitchens line of being ... me!

I live in their heads.

237 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:16:12pm

re: #236 Charles

Toe heads. ;)

238 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:16:50pm

re: #235 Throbert McGee
I didn't get that one either, but I hear Obama's gonna sue for royalties on the first one on the second page!

239 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:16:52pm

re: #236 Charles

Guess they need a hobby. I've never really seen any atheist threads here per se.

240 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:17:12pm

It's a massive Honco conspiracy.

241 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:17:15pm
242 Gella  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:17:17pm

re: #236 Charles

It's hilarious! Now they're accusing people who don't toe their hate Hitchens line of being ... me!

I live in their heads.

it called nightmares LOL

243 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:17:43pm

re: #223 jcm

Complaints may be filed in person with S. Beaumont. Level 5, room 21.

PINEAPPLE WALL MOUNT COMPLAINT DEPARTMENTPINEAPPLE WALL MOUNT COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT


[Link: www.soldiercity.com...]

244 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:18:18pm

re: #235 Throbert McGee

(Although I'm not sure I get the one featuring a teapot -- I mean, is that a reference to some specific pseudo-scientific notion that I'm missing?)

Russell's teapot

245 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:18:36pm

What's in the air at hot air?

Somebody check for toxic levels of hydrocarbons

246 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:19:05pm

(Well, at least in that person's case, no more procreating is the way to go). I know we're supposed to be an earth in the lurch, population wise, but flyingacross the country, looking out at all that totally empty real estate, or even on a drive through the Delta here , with long stretches of no one in sight for miles... it's hard to get my head wrapped around it.
Talk about hell to pay... there will be, I am afraid...
[Link: www.wsvn.com...]
BHO is starting to show that disturbing trait seen in all the ' moderate muslims' here in the states... hear no, see no, speak no.
Unless, of course, it's to warn of impending financial doom.

247 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:19:35pm

re: #245 Shug

What's in the air at hot air?

Somebody check for toxic levels of hydrocarbons

RINOS RINOS RINOS!

Get thee to a nunnery!

248 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:20:40pm
249 horse  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:20:55pm

re: #57 Slumbering Behemoth

Why is it all the cool stuff happens in the future? To hell with our descendants, I want to boink to death NOW!

"Death By Snoo Snoo!"

250 Timbre  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:21:08pm

Hitchens' "The Portable Atheist" has a lot of excellent essays in it.

251 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:21:09pm

Anyone see a dreadfully senile and guilty Alan Greenspan on teewee yesterday, on the one hand saying that deregulating finance is still the way to go, and on the other hand advocating nationalization of some banks?

252 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:21:10pm

re: #243 Dustyvet

PINEAPPLE WALL MOUNT COMPLAINT DEPARTMENTPINEAPPLE WALL MOUNT COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT

[Link: www.soldiercity.com...]

LOL! That's great!

253 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:21:10pm

Hello Night Lizards! It snowed a wee bit tonite in Near Iowa.

I'm in a cynical mood AND my princess dog "lost" her toy du jour under the couch again.

How are you-all and what are we talking about.

254 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:21:38pm

You people are animals. You should just stop rutting. At least wear a condominium. Quackselodiums.

255 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:21:51pm

re: #245 Shug

What's in the air at hot air?

Somebody check for toxic levels of hydrocarbons

Entitlement.

256 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:22:00pm

re: #236 Charles

I live in their heads.

How can you stand such small places?

257 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:22:06pm

BEIJING, China (CNN) -- A married Chinese businessman who could no longer afford five mistresses held a competition to decide which one to keep.

The businessman and his spurned mistress met in Qingdao, pictured here last August, local media report.

But the contest took a fatal turn when one of the women, eliminated for her looks, drove the man and the four other competitors off a cliff, Chinese media reported.

The spurned mistress died and the other passengers were injured, the reports said.

SNIP

The women knew of one another, but none elected to break up with the man and give up their rent-free apartment and a 5,000 yuan ($730) monthly allowance, the reports said.

When the economy soured, the businessman apparently decided to let go of all but one mistress.

He staged a private talent show in May, without telling the women his intentions. An instructor from a local modeling agency judged the women on the way they looked, how they sang and how much alcohol they could hold, the Shanghai Daily said.

SNIP

258 MandyManners  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:22:32pm

Bed time!

259 Throbert McGee  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:22:47pm

re: #203 Dianna

Um. The actual limiting factor is - and will remain - potable water.

Not "potable," as in "safe for drinking," but "fresh," as in "sufficiently non-saline that you can water crops with it."

260 Teh Flowah  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:22:58pm

This wouldn't happen anyway. Population trends aren't static. First world countries don't reproduce at a rate to sustain their populations. Even the poorest of the poor country's birthrates go down with time. In 500 years we'll more likely have a crisis of underpopulation than overpopulation.

261 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:23:18pm

re: #258 MandyManners

Later Mandy.

262 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:23:19pm

re: #235 Throbert McGee

Look at my Avatar.

263 esch  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:23:26pm

re: #225 itellu3times

Or the twenty-seven "Swords" books that he wrote after ... of which the first three are pretty good. Excuse me - excellent, just a bit derivative of Empire. Saberhagen is an excellent wordsmith.

Ah, it's so good to be around other reasonably literate people again.

I'm currently working on the new Covenant novels.

264 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:23:48pm

re: #257 MandyManners

BEIJING, China (CNN) -- A married Chinese businessman who could no longer afford five mistresses held a competition to decide which one to keep.

SNIP

And this is the society which seeks to be our successor on the stage of world affairs?

265 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:24:00pm

Personally, I don't give a shit about the population of the earth in 500 years

266 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:24:22pm

re: #253 ggt Hey ggt - good evening! We're still mostly talking about the topic of this thread!

267 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:24:29pm

re: #264 calcajun

And this is the society which seeks to be our successor on the stage of world affairs?

No kidding. They haven't even thought to put that on TV yet.

268 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:24:50pm

re: #265 Shug

Seriously, we still haven't figured out what to do with General Motors.

269 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:24:55pm

re: #257 MandyManners

How much alcohol they could hold? Is that sexy?

270 pink freud  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:25:06pm

re: #264 calcajun

And this is the society which seeks to be our successor on the stage of world affairs?

No, that's Islam.

271 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:25:15pm

just channel surfed onto Leno, and saw ariana huffington.

what a twit she is. How anybody has her on TV is beyond me.

click

272 Timbre  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:25:16pm

I think the Hadron Collider will take care of any overmatter problems.
/

273 2senseplain  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:25:41pm

re: #152 Dar ul Harb

Or other advances in technology that produce/grow food without needing arable land or even much land at all. Why do all these overpopulation alarmists fail to notice that people are also a resource?

274 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:25:53pm

re: #266 realwest

Hey ggt - good evening! We're still mostly talking about the topic of this thread!

Hey RW! How you doin'?

There is a topic?

275 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:25:57pm

re: #269 ggt

How much alcohol they could hold? Is that sexy?

Not really. It's the chrome and trailer hitch competition that will draw the biggest audience.

276 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:25:59pm

re: #236 Charles

It's hilarious! Now they're accusing people who don't toe their hate Hitchens line of being ... me!

I live in their heads.

As long as you're not living in Hitchen's head.

277 No. Just, no.  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:26:06pm

Totally serious note here: It's not how many you have, it's how you raise them.

If you do your best to provide a good home, give them love and attention, and keep your eye on the goal--namely, turning out a functioning, decent adult, go ahead and have a few.

(Note: You don't have to be perfect. Just be a good cub scout and do your best.)

It's the ones that ignore their children and are so into themselves (rich or poor) that their kids end up messed up that I wish wouldn't have kids.

278 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:26:50pm

re: #265 Shug
Gee Shug, it's not like you to be so, so...uncaring and all!
:)

279 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:26:57pm

re: #251 itellu3times

Anyone see a dreadfully senile and guilty Alan Greenspan on teewee yesterday, on the one hand saying that deregulating finance is still the way to go, and on the other hand advocating nationalization of some banks?

Alzheimer's...

280 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:27:03pm

Russell's teapot is out there. It's right next to the flying spaghetti monster. Yum.

281 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:27:07pm

Don't you people realize?! The SUN is going to go Supernova!

YOU MUST TELL THE WORLD WE'RE DOOMED! DOOOMED!

282 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:27:11pm

re: #276 ted

As long as you're not living in Hitchen's head.

Especially when he's had a rough night. Don't want to be spewed upon, do we.

283 abolitionist  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:27:16pm

OT: Future Shock
What would a socialist America look like? A socialist's perspective
(video - Road to Socialism, Glenn Beck with guest, Director, Democratic Socialists of America)

Intro, Automatically Generated Transcript (may not be 100% accurate):

" You know I actually have respect for our next guest because he's one of the field and America that just doesn't mince words he is a socialist. And I. I respect that much more than other people pretending that they're not -- Llewellyn director of the democratic socialists of America
[snip]
284 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:27:39pm

re: #269 ggt

Not how much they could drink... how many fifths they could tote on their backs while keeping a respectful distance behind him.

285 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:27:44pm

re: #278 realwest

Gee Shug, it's not like you to be so, so...uncaring and all!
:)


Whatever happens in 500 years you and I will have a good view of it

286 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:28:00pm

re: #282 calcajun

Especially when he's had a rough night. Don't want to be spewed upon, do we.

Oh no...

287 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:28:06pm

Wasn't there a over-population guru in the 70's that said we'd be starving by 2000? Then there was that Maltus guy earlier in the 20th century. They are always wrong.

Once can't predict such things in an unpredictable world.

I feel the same about global warming climate change and the availability of oil.

288 jaunte  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:28:08pm

re: #257 MandyManners

There's a real-life experiment which might answer Cognito's earlier speculation.

289 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:28:18pm

re: #281 Sharmuta

Don't you people realize?! The SUN is going to go Supernova!

YOU MUST TELL THE WORLD WE'RE DOOMED! DOOOMED!

Good point. 100 years from now there will be meteorite heading straight for Earth and Bruce Willis will be long dead.

290 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:28:27pm

re: #271 Shug

Seriously. Or even off camera.

291 rumcrook  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:28:29pm

one guy tags himself as a hillbilly and now all us hillbillies is tarred as suedo scientists

292 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:28:33pm

Or was that an asteroid?

293 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:28:37pm

re: #287 ggt

Wasn't there a over-population guru in the 70's that said we'd be starving by 2000? Then there was that Maltus guy earlier in the 20th century. They are always wrong.

Once can't predict such things in an unpredictable world.

I feel the same about global warming climate change and the availability of oil.


These guys have to wise up.
Never ever make predictions that occur in your lifetime

294 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:29:02pm

re: #274 ggt
I'm doing ok, thanks! Yes, there is a topic - at the top of the page - Charles got a letter from Hillbillie Billie warning Charles about overpopulation of the Earth around 2051 or so.
Seriously, that's the topic of this thread!

295 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:29:16pm

re: #284 tradewind

Not how much they could drink... how many fifths they could tote on their backs while keeping a respectful distance behind him.

ah!

296 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:29:32pm

re: #287 ggt

Wasn't there a over-population guru in the 70's that said we'd be starving by 2000? Then there was that Maltus guy earlier in the 20th century. They are always wrong.

Once can't predict such things in an unpredictable world.

I feel the same about global warming climate change and the availability of oil.

Ehrlich, The Population Bomb. mass starvation by the '80s.

297 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:29:37pm

re: #287 ggt

Wasn't there a over-population guru in the 70's that said we'd be starving by 2000? Then there was that Maltus guy earlier in the 20th century. They are always wrong.

Once can't predict such things in an unpredictable world.

I feel the same about global warming climate change and the availability of oil.

Thomas Malthus--late 18th century. To him, everything was a zero-sum game.

298 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:29:46pm

re: #249 horse

Fry: Goodbye, friends. I never thought I'd die like this. But I always really, really hoped...

299 ted  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:29:46pm

re: #293 Shug

These guys have to wise up.
Never ever make predictions that occur in your lifetime

Paul Ehrlich.

300 No. Just, no.  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:29:47pm

re: #294 realwest

I'm doing ok, thanks! Yes, there is a topic - at the top of the page - Charles got a letter from Hillbillie Billie warning Charles about overpopulation of the Earth around 2051 or so.
Seriously, that's the topic of this thread!

Yes, but in 2051, will they be looking at pictures of how we styled our hair, and what we wore, and snickering?

Probably.

301 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:29:51pm

re: #281 Sharmuta

Don't you people realize?! The SUN is going to go Supernova!

YOU MUST TELL THE WORLD WE'RE DOOMED! DOOOMED!

No silly. Scientists are creating a huge pair of sunglasses for the Earth. Actually, a monocle.

302 rumcrook  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:29:59pm

is hillbilly bill a redundancy?

303 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:29:59pm

re: #293 Shug

These guys have to wise up.
Never ever make predictions that occur in your lifetime

LOL!

304 2senseplain  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:30:13pm

re: #259 Throbert McGee

Also subject to advances in technology not to mention some changes in cultural practices which get adopted pretty fast when you get thirsty. Sit back and see what happens over then next couple of years in Israel(we have an undeserved rep about water conservation in agriculture and let things get totally out of hand. Suddenly there's a whole flurry of activity in handling the emergency, although we have to get through this year before they're in place).

305 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:30:33pm

re: #296 jcm

Ehrlich, The Population Bomb. mass starvation by the '80s.

Yeah, that's it, thanks for remembering for me.

306 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:30:52pm
307 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:30:54pm

re: #298 Fenway_Nation

Fry: Goodbye, friends. I never thought I'd die like this. But I always really, really hoped...

But you got to see the "curse" lifted. At least you have that. As for me and my Saints... oh, howl!

308 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:31:00pm

re: #285 Shug Huh? How is it that you and I will have such a good view of what happens in 500 years?

309 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:31:04pm

re: #297 calcajun

Thomas Malthus--late 18th century. To him, everything was a zero-sum game.

Thanks for the spelling correction!

310 rumcrook  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:31:36pm

re: #301 HelloDare

does that mean planet earth will be the colonel klink of the universe?

311 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:31:57pm

I predict that in 150 years, the Detroit Lions will still not have made the playoffs

312 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:32:08pm

re: #310 rumcrook

does that mean planet earth will be the colonel klink of the universe?

What does that make the moon? Sgt. Schultz?

313 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:32:12pm

re: #300 EmmmieG

Yes, but in 2051, will they be looking at pictures of how we styled our hair, and what we wore, and snickering?

Probably.

They'll be looking at digital archives --not actual pictures!

314 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:32:13pm

re: #308 realwest

Huh? How is it that you and I will have such a good view of what happens in 500 years?

Oh yeah, way up in the the nose bleed seats...:)


/s

315 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:32:18pm

re: #310 rumcrook

does that mean planet earth will be the colonel klink of the universe?

No. Pirate Earth.

316 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:32:21pm

re: #300 EmmmieG
HA! I don't have enough hair to style so, ah, um, hmm
THERE!

317 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:32:40pm

re: #311 Shug

I predict that in 150 years, the Detroit Lions will still not have made the playoffs

Just so long as the Saints have gone to the Superbowl by then.

318 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:32:43pm

re: #305 ggt

Yeah, that's it, thanks for remembering for me.

Back then James Hansen of NASA was predicting global cooling and the coming ice age.

He's now a Gorbul Warming pusher.

319 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:33:21pm

re: #311 Shug

I predict that in 150 years, the Detroit Lions will still not have made the playoffs

The Cubs might win a world series!

320 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:33:22pm

re: #318 jcm

Back then James Hansen of NASA was predicting global cooling and the coming ice age.

He's now a Gorbul Warming pusher.

He's 1 for 2

321 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:33:24pm

re: #316 realwest

HA! I don't have enough hair to style so, ah, um, hmm
THERE!

Don't say it Dusty...:)

/s

322 calcajun  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:33:43pm

Time for my evening constitutional with the I-Pod. Later.

323 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:34:22pm

re: #307 calcajun

But you got to see the "curse" lifted. At least you have that. As for me and my Saints... oh, howl!


I'm getting a little greedy- I wanna see the Stanley Cup (only chamionship trophy a Boston/New England team hasn't won in my lifetime) come back to the Hub of Hockey before I die; Snu-snu related death or otherwise.

324 Gella  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:35:01pm

re: #319 ggt

The Cubs might win a world series!

that might happen in 300 years

325 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:35:01pm

I don't know guys. 500 Years out I see less than what we have now. Just seems to be the trend.

326 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:35:15pm

re: #318 jcm

Back then James Hansen of NASA was predicting global cooling and the coming ice age.

He's now a Gorbul Warming pusher.

What I remember of the 70's was that I was in first grade for the first Earth Day (1970?). I spent my elementary years learning of the horrors of flourocarbons (sp?) and the necessity of recycling.

Now we are hearing about it all again and I'm not listening anymore. My grades don't depend on it.

327 rumcrook  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:35:24pm

re: #312 calcajun

nooo the moon will allways be jacky gleason.

328 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:35:37pm

re: #295 ggt

Hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I saw that exact scenario so many times working trips to Asia that it became a caricature. You got your husband, prancing down the jetway empty-handed but for a small briefcase, followed by the little woman, loaded down with luggage and his essential carry on items.

329 Throbert McGee  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:35:41pm

re: #244 itellu3times

Russell's teapot

Aha, thanks! I'd never heard of "Bertrand Russell's teapot" despite many years of reading skeptical literature.

One pseudo-science not represented in the T-shirts: homeopathic medicine. (Although I honestly can't think of a good way to represent homeopathic "theory" in a single cartoon image. You could do it with a two-panel cartoon: first panel shows one man drinking a thimbleful of vodka while another man guzzles a large bottle of vodka; in the second panel, the man who drank just a thimbleful is passed out on the floor, while the guy who chugged the bottle is sober.)

330 Mel Lono  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:36:07pm
What is The Gaia Hypothesis?

The Gaia Hypothesis proposes that our planet functions as a single organism that maintains conditions necessary for its survival. Formulated by James Lovelock in the mid-1960s and published in a book in 1979, this controversial idea has spawned several interesting ideas and many new areas of research. While this hypothesis is by no means substantiated, it provides many useful lessons about the interaction of physical, chemical, geological, and biological processes on Earth. Thus, it is a good starting point for our study of oceanography, providing a broad overview of the kinds of processes that will interest us throughout the semester.

Throughout history, the concept of Mother Earth has been a part of human culture in one form or another. Everybody has heard of Mother Earth, but have you ever stopped to think who (or what) Mother Earth is? Consider these explanations.

The Hopi name for Mother Earth is Tapuat (meaning mother and child), symbolized by a form of concentric circles or squares, as shown below. These forms symbolize the cycle of life, the rebirth of the spirit, its earthly path, and, possibly, its return to the spiritual domain. The lines and passages within the "maze" represent the universal plan of the Creator and the path that man must follow to seek enlightenment.

A more imposing definition of Mother Earth might be found in the Hindu goddess Kali. She is the Cosmic Power, representing all of the good and all of the bad in the Universe, combining the absolute power of destruction with the precious motherly gift of creation. It is said that Kali creates, preserves, destroys. Also known as the Black One, her name means "The Ferry across the Ocean of Existence."

The ancient Greeks called their Earth goddess Ge or Gaia. Gaia embodies the idea of a Mother Earth, the source of the living and non-living entities that make up the Earth. Like Kali, Gaia was gentle, feminine and nurturing, but also ruthlessly cruel to any who crossed her. Note that the prefix "ge" in the words geology and geography is taken from the Greek root for Earth.

James Lovelock has taken the idea of Mother Earth one step further and given it a modern scientific twist. (Are our modern Mother Earth "hypotheses" any more refined than ancient Mother Earth myths?). Lovelock defines Gaia "as a complex entity involving the Earth's biosphere, atmosphere, oceans, and soil; the totality constituting a feedback or cybernetic system which seeks an optimal physical and chemical environment for life on this planet." Through Gaia, the Earth sustains a kind of homeostasis, the maintenance of relatively constant conditions.

The truly startling component of the Gaia hypothesis is the idea that the Earth is a single living entity. This idea is certainly not new. James Hutton (1726-1797), the father of geology, once described the Earth as a kind of superorganism. And right before Lovelock, Lewis Thomas, a medical doctor and skilled writer, penned these words in his famous collection of essays, The Lives of a Cell:

�Viewed from the distance of the moon, the astonishing thing about the earth, catching the breath, is that it is alive. The photographs show the dry, pounded surface of the moon in the foreground, dry as an old bone. Aloft, floating free beneath the moist, gleaming, membrane of bright blue sky, is the rising earth, the only exuberant thing in this part of the cosmos. If you could look long enough, you would see the swirling of the great drifts of white cloud, covering and uncovering the half-hidden masses of land. If you had been looking for a very long, geologic time, you could have seen the continents themselves in motion, drifting apart on their crustal plates, held afloat by the fire beneath. It has the organized, self-contained look of a live creature, full of information, marvelously skilled in handling the sun.�

331 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:36:20pm

re: #306 jcm
Hi jcm - I can't begin to tell you how interested I am in Ken Griffey's going back to the Mariners. Thanks for that.

332 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:37:01pm

re: #328 tradewind

Hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I saw that exact scenario so many times working trips to Asia that it became a caricature. You got your husband, prancing down the jetway empty-handed but for a small briefcase, followed by the little woman, loaded down with luggage and his essential carry on items.

Your reporting of it doesn't offend me. The reality of it p!sses me off.

333 Racer X  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:37:02pm

500 years from now, I cannot even imagine what my Carbon Fartprint will look like.

334 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:37:19pm

aah, 'The Untouchables" is on AMC

335 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:37:33pm

re: #311 Shug
Ah yeah, but the question really is: in 150 years will they have won two games?!

336 Kronocide  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:37:46pm

Would complaints about being off topic, be off topic? Just wondering.

And with that, Mrs BP has informed me that the street lights are on. Good night.

(waving secret Honco gang sign)

337 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:38:23pm

re: #331 realwest

Hi jcm - I can't begin to tell you how interested I am in Ken Griffey's going back to the Mariners. Thanks for that.

LOL! After our year in sports anything is good news.

338 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:39:03pm

There's also Russell's tea bag. But that's something entirely different.

339 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:39:18pm

re: #177 RememberSekhmet?

Wonder how the octomom's fourteen are gonna feel about that?
:)

340 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:39:26pm

re: #330 Mel Lono

a kind of homeostasis

WTF?

341 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:40:33pm

re: #314 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty - well maybe Shug will have those seats, but I'm pretty sure the heat waves are gonna obscure my vision!

342 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:40:44pm

re: #332 ggt

I know.
And it didn't get any better on board.

343 Afrocity  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:41:07pm

Okay I just got interviewed about my thoughts on Rolland Burris. I say let the guy stay in and do the two years. He will not be reelected and who cares anyway. Anyone you replace him with will be a Chicago liar.

344 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:41:14pm

re: #325 Attaboid

I don't know guys. 500 Years out I see less than what we have now. Just seems to be the trend.

And in 1509, do you think they expected sliced bread or Internet porn?

345 Mel Lono  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:41:39pm

re: #340 Attaboid

WTF?

look it up.. It can be a constant or c. Or just what we do when we sit on the couch making a hole all day.

346 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:42:11pm

re: #319 ggt
Hey c'mon now, let's not get so giddy! It's unbecoming of you!
:)

347 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:42:17pm

re: #329 Throbert McGee

Aha, thanks! I'd never heard of "Bertrand Russell's teapot" despite many years of reading skeptical literature.

One pseudo-science not represented in the T-shirts: homeopathic medicine. (Although I honestly can't think of a good way to represent homeopathic "theory" in a single cartoon image. You could do it with a two-panel cartoon: first panel shows one man drinking a thimbleful of vodka while another man guzzles a large bottle of vodka; in the second panel, the man who drank just a thimbleful is passed out on the floor, while the guy who chugged the bottle is sober.)

Homeopathy

348 Afrocity  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:42:27pm

re: #333 Racer X

500 years from now, I cannot even imagine what my Carbon Fartprint will look like.

Chim Chim just keeled over.

349 Racer X  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:42:35pm

re: #343 Afrocity

Okay I just got interviewed about my thoughts on Rolland Burris. I say let the guy stay in and do the two years. He will not be reelected and who cares anyway. Anyone you replace him with will be a Chicago liar.

Why reward a liar?

Why not hold a special election and let the people decide?

350 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:42:44pm

Hillbillie Bill

The world’s population is now 6.8 Billion people. Experts predict that by the year 2050 the world’s population will be 9.1 Billion people. That will be an increase of 2.3 Billion people in just 41 years. If there’s poverty, starvation, global warming and a hole in the ozone layer now, what do you think it will be like in 500 years? If the world has not been destroyed by nuclear war in the next 500 years the world’s population will be some where around 32 Billion people. When that happens there is going to be hell to pay. So I strongly suggest that you “STOP CREATING” and take your children to a doctor and have something done to prevent them from reproducing. If you don’t, your future generations will simply breed themselves to death.

Charles:

Hard to argue with that.

Actually, it's quite easy to argue with that. Thomas Malthus debunked this argument in 1798.

Populations increase until they can't be supported any more. Then they decrease. Simple as that. The word "decrease," however, camouflages a litany of human horrors -- starvation, epidemics, wars.

Hillbillie Bill makes the same self-contradictory arguments many have made over the centuries: "Stop overpopulating the planet -- or we'll all die!" Say what?

No, we won't all die -- the population level will self-correct. Which means a massive loss of human life until the number of people is viable again.

The argument Hillbillie Bill was trying to make is: In order to prevent a catastrophic downturn in population at some later date, we should consciously and voluntarily level it off now.

But there is a MAJOR problem with that proposal: One needs all the nations of the Earth to agree to it simultaneously. And then we'd need a totalitarian police state to enforce the no-babies rule. And neither of those scenarios is any more pleasant than the "catastrophic decrease in the distant future" scenario.

If all the "advanced" nations (as is actually already happening) consciously or culturally have a very low birth rate, then the third world nations will simply explode in population and overrun the first world. Happened in Europe around 400AD when the barbarians/Goths (who were experiencing a population explosion) overran the Romans (who were having a population decline). It's happening famously in Europe again now with Muslim immigrants vastly out-reproducing the Europeans. Etc.

How, pray tell, are we going to force other countries or other cultures to stop having babies? If anything, they'll see our low birth rate as an opportunity to become ascendant.

Or does Hillbillie Bill and others like him envision forced abortions, forced sterilization, punishments for sexual activity? What is this -- a horror film?

Truth is, we just gotta let mature run its course. It isn't gonna be pretty when the population necessarily must decrease, but there's no real way to avoid it.

The only possible escape valve is that a century or two from now we actually open up new worlds to human colonization -- i.e. Mars is looking like the best best at the moment. But that's still the realm of science fiction for now.

351 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:43:53pm

re: #343 Afrocity

I don't really care, but I bet that the Dems in the Senate, and especially the former one from IL, now president BHO, want him gone as quickly as possible, fearing further shoe drops.

352 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:44:02pm

The Radicals Among Us


Lengthy article at Philadelphia Magazine regarding prison inmates converting to radical Islam.


[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

353 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:44:59pm

best best at the moment = best bet at the moment

354 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:45:40pm

re: #343 Afrocity

Okay I just got interviewed about my thoughts on Rolland Burris. I say let the guy stay in and do the two years. He will not be reelected and who cares anyway. Anyone you replace him with will be a Chicago liar.

Glad you were honest!

355 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:45:40pm

Somehow I can see most of the future funding for NASA going into "global warming" escapades as it morphs into another EPA. I'm sure there will be funding for interplanetary projects but if these global warming adherents get there way it will be reduced. Less money for Edwards, Dryden, KSC, etc.

356 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:45:42pm

re: #349 Racer X

Why reward a liar?

Why not hold a special election and let the people decide?

That's what should have happened in Illinois...

357 eastvillageinfidel  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:45:56pm

I'm surprised someone like Hillbillie Bill isn't too paranoid to use a computer, but I'm glad he's not - he's a riot.

358 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:46:09pm

re: #346 realwest

Hey c'mon now, let's not get so giddy! It's unbecoming of you!
:)

LOL!

359 kahall  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:46:33pm

re: #236 Charles

re: #236 Charles

It's hilarious! Now they're accusing people who don't toe their hate Hitchens line of being ... me!

I live in their heads.

Speaking of HA. There are some whack jobs over there for sure. Admittedly I play.
Did you guys already discuss what went on in a thread over there starting with this comment? Has this come up before with MM?

360 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:47:52pm

re: #359 kahall
Is Allahpundit still over there?
I used to really love his stuff when he had his own blog... funny funny guy. (Or girl, don't know),

361 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:47:56pm

re: #343 Afrocity
Hi Afrocity

Okay I just got interviewed about my thoughts on Rolland Burris. I say let the guy stay in and do the two years. He will not be reelected and who cares anyway. Anyone you replace him with will be another Chicago liar.

There, fixed that for ya!

362 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:48:49pm

re: #350 zombie

Nuke the MOON!

363 Racer X  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:49:40pm

re: #350 zombie

I agree with you up to a point.

I honestly doubt mankind will ever successfully colonize Mars. Our atmosphere protects us from deadly radiation. Mars does not have this protection. We would have to go underground.

No fun.

364 Salamantis  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:49:45pm

Zombie, have I ever mentioned to you that I am deeply impressed by your breadth and depth of erudition? Because I am.

365 kahall  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:49:55pm

re: #360 tradewind

Is Allahpundit still over there?
I used to really love his stuff when he had his own blog... funny funny guy. (Or girl, don't know),

Yes, he/she is there. Ed Morrissey and AP are usually the only ones posting.

366 Yankee Division Son  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:50:17pm

re: #234 Yankee Division Son

Wow, nobody caught that. I must be loosing my touch.

/ Did I ever have one?

367 Afrocity  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:51:02pm

re: #356 Dustyvet

That's what should have happened in Illinois...

Why should my tax dollars go to elect another lying rat. Quinn will apoint Lisa Magdigan and she is the product of her father- a crook.

So he lied. That is a drop in the bucket. He could raise the money and money never changed hands. To me it makes Blago look worse.

368 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:51:08pm

Terraforming sound difficult. Space elevators are/were being worked on. First step would be the moon again but this post Apollo NASA and country doesn't have the pellotas.

369 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:52:58pm

re: #367 Afrocity

Why should my tax dollars go to elect another lying rat. Quinn will apoint Lisa Magdigan and she is the product of her father- a crook.

So he lied. That is a drop in the bucket. He could raise the money and money never changed hands. To me it makes Blago look worse.

True, I've only lived in Illinois for 6 years...it sure has been one hell of an education.

370 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:53:25pm

re: #359 kahall
Which comment are you talking about "malkin palls around with white supremacists."? Well I've never met her, but have read lots of what she's written and can't believe that true. Maybe "eh" has her confused with Pamela?

371 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:53:50pm

re: #368 Gus 802

Solar collectors at LaGrange points. Tesla?

372 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:54:19pm

re: #363 Racer X

I agree with you up to a point.

I honestly doubt mankind will ever successfully colonize Mars. Our atmosphere protects us from deadly radiation. Mars does not have this protection. We would have to go underground.

No fun.

Well, I just tossed that Mars thing in at the end as a possible ray of hope, to forestall other people bringing it up.

Radiation is actually the least of the problems. The trip there takes what -- a year? Two years? How in the world are we gonna transport a spare 10 billion people to Mars on a two-year space journey? Fuggedaboutit.

Secondly, the temperature variation is too extreme -- only a very tiny part of Mars would even conceivably be habitable.

Thirdly, as you mention, radiation shielding of some kind would have to be installed. Humongous problem.

Fourthly, we'd have to mine water and get a major supply going before anyone showed up. Another insanely overwhelming logistical problem.

OK, maybe in 500 years, we can overcome them. It'll be quite a way into the distant future before Mars can be colonized.

373 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:56:36pm

re: #372 zombie

Face it. You can't escape.

374 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:56:55pm

re: #366 Yankee Division Son

With Barney, we've all been to the mountain and looked down. Nothing he could do would surprise anyone after the boyz-in-the-(House) basement-bordello thing. I really believe he'd have to be caught in, say, ... a three-way with Bloomberg and Biden for the press to even yawn.

375 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:57:12pm

re: #364 Salamantis

Zombie, have I ever mentioned to you that I am deeply impressed by your breadth and depth of erudition? Because I am.

Why thank you!

The scary part is, I never even allow myself to talk about the fields I really know about, lest I give too many clues to my identity!

You can identify my area of expertise by the process of elimination, winnowing it down to just those areas of knowledge that I never discuss here.

376 BlueCanuck  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:57:18pm

re: #372 zombie

I reccommend "Red Mars", "Green Mars", and "Blue Mars" by Kim Stanley Robinson. It's an interesting trilogy about the terraforming of Mars and the people that first colonized it. Thick books, heavy on the science but good for showing the difficulties it would entail.

377 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:57:28pm

re: #371 Attaboid

Solar collectors at LaGrange points. Tesla?

I'm from the "do it all school" but at this point I don't see any funding coming for probably another 20 years. Most will be going to banks that don't do the right thing and homeowners that stopped paying their obligations.

No doubt we'll be seeing most go to ethanol production which will add another failed layer to this mess. ADM, BP, and others have a strong foothold in DC.

Mini rant.

378 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:57:39pm

Transplanting isn't going to work. The Sun will still go supernova, Andromeda's going to collide with us, and there's a super massive black hole at the center of the galaxy. We're DOOOMED!

379 kahall  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:57:41pm

re: #370 realwest

Which comment are you talking about "malkin palls around with white supremacists."? Well I've never met her, but have read lots of what she's written and can't believe that true. Maybe "eh" has her confused with Pamela?

Yes that comment. The person then provides links later on to blogs that are not really cared for around here much. I did not check them, never have. I was just curious, especially since the comments were not deleted or responded to. Seems weird to me, but that is why I don't blog much I guess.

380 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:58:06pm

re: #375 zombie

Why thank you!

The scary part is, I never even allow myself to talk about the fields I really know about, lest I give too many clues to my identity!

You can identify my area of expertise by the process of elimination, winnowing it down to just those areas of knowledge that I never discuss here.

Macrame?

381 jaunte  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:58:44pm

re: #378 Sharmuta

Transplanting isn't going to work. The Sun will still go supernova, Andromeda's going to collide with us, and there's a super massive black hole at the center of the galaxy. We're DOOOMED!

Hindmost, is that you?

382 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:58:46pm

re: #334 Shug

aah, 'The Untouchables" is on AMC

Its a good movie if watched simply for entertainment. As history it is risible.

383 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:59:05pm

re: #375 zombie

Why thank you!

The scary part is, I never even allow myself to talk about the fields I really know about, lest I give too many clues to my identity!

You can identify my area of expertise by the process of elimination, winnowing it down to just those areas of knowledge that I never discuss here.


I've narrowed it down to

1. You own a baskin robbins
2. You are a professional fire watcher
3. You are shortstop for the Giants


what do I win?

384 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:59:05pm

re: #273 2senseplain

Why do all these overpopulation alarmists fail to notice that people are also a resource?

It's like the pro-life argument that we'd have solved a number of humanity's problems (energy, cancer, etc) already, if it weren't for the fact that the person who would grow up to do it was aborted.

(A similar argument could be made for the unequal distribution of education, however. If the potential next great scientific genius has the misfortune to be born in an impoverished country where he or she won't get the necessary education to make the most of those capabilities, the result is rather the same. Though, you gotta admit, surviving to be born is the first item on the list for success.)

--

"It is not birth, marriage, or death, but gastrulation, which is truly the most important time in your life."

Developmental biologist Lewis Wolpert, (1986)

385 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:59:11pm

There's also sea colonization. Fill communities. ANWR will make a nice city.

386 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:59:41pm

re: #380 HelloDare

Macrame?

Don't be crewel.

387 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:59:45pm

re: #375 zombie

You can identify my area of expertise by the process of elimination, winnowing it down to just those areas of knowledge that I never discuss here.

You're an astrophysicist!

388 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 9:59:55pm

re: #364 Salamantis

Zombie, have I ever mentioned to you that I am deeply impressed by your breadth and depth of erudition? Because I am.

me too!

389 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:00:16pm

re: #379 kahall
Huh. I never saw any links but if they are to the Stormfront Variety, I would honestly be amazed that she has ever said anything or in anyway been connected to those types of "people".

390 Desert Dog  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:00:33pm

re: #378 Sharmuta

Transplanting isn't going to work. The Sun will still go supernova, Andromeda's going to collide with us, and there's a super massive black hole at the center of the galaxy. We're DOOOMED!

So, what you are trying to say is that glass is actually half empty?

391 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:00:45pm

re: #383 Shug

I've narrowed it down to

1. You own a baskin robbins
2. You are a professional fire watcher
3. You are shortstop for the Giants

what do I win?

All wrong...

zombie is the mayor of San Francisco.

392 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:01:07pm

re: #386 zombie

Don't be crewel.

Ah-ha! People often pun in fields they have great knowledge.

393 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:01:18pm

Art Agnos? Is that you?

394 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:01:28pm

re: #386 zombie

Tell them to quit needling you.
Zombie, protect your cover at all costs. LGF does not want you to ever have to interrupt your work for security reasons.

395 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:01:32pm

re: #370 realwest

Which comment are you talking about "malkin palls around with white supremacists."? Well I've never met her, but have read lots of what she's written and can't believe that true. Maybe "eh" has her confused with Pamela?

I don't see White Supremacists cozying up to Michelle Malkin.

396 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:01:42pm

re: #391 jcm

All wrong...

zombie is the mayor of San Francisco.

They are having a baby, you know. The wife, I mean.

397 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:01:51pm

You mock me now- you just wait, like... millions of years.

You won't be laughing then.

398 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:02:23pm

re: #383 Shug

I've narrowed it down to

1. You own a baskin robbins
2. You are a professional fire watcher
3. You are shortstop for the Giants

what do I win?

Who says I can't be all three?

Actually, I'm Chris Speier, a former shortshop for the Giants; in my retirement, I bought a Baskin-Robbins franchise, and in my spare time I work as a fire watcher, following in the footsteps of Jack Kerouac.

You got me figured out on the first try! Your prize: A Jamoca Fudge Sundae, on the house.

399 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:02:46pm

re: #378 Sharmuta

Transplanting isn't going to work. The Sun will still go supernova, Andromeda's going to collide with us, and there's a super massive black hole at the center of the galaxy. We're DOOOMED!

We can survive all those. We have to colonize other solar systems; many of those (many generations of colonies later) will survive the collision with Andromeda (which is really largely two very diffuse objects passing through each other; it will disrupt galactic orbits, but few planetary ones).

It is the end of the universe that dooms us. The Big Rip, when space itself gets torn apart.

400 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:02:47pm

re: #394 tradewind

Tell them to quit needling you.
Zombie, protect your cover at all costs. LGF does not want you to ever have to interrupt your work for security reasons.

My we can write great yarns here...:)

401 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:02:57pm

re: #372 zombie

Well, I just tossed that Mars thing in at the end as a possible ray of hope, to forestall other people bringing it up.

Radiation is actually the least of the problems. The trip there takes what -- a year? Two years? How in the world are we gonna transport a spare 10 billion people to Mars on a two-year space journey? Fuggedaboutit.

Secondly, the temperature variation is too extreme -- only a very tiny part of Mars would even conceivably be habitable.

Thirdly, as you mention, radiation shielding of some kind would have to be installed. Humongous problem.

Fourthly, we'd have to mine water and get a major supply going before anyone showed up. Another insanely overwhelming logistical problem.

OK, maybe in 500 years, we can overcome them. It'll be quite a way into the distant future before Mars can be colonized.

In 500 years it could be like Star Trek. Just manufacure all the water you need on the Enterprise and beam it to the surface. Stranger things have happened.

402 kahall  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:03:14pm

re: #389 realwest

Huh. I never saw any links but if they are to the Stormfront Variety, I would honestly be amazed that she has ever said anything or in anyway been connected to those types of "people".

Me too. And they were of the stormfront variety and they are still there.

403 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:03:28pm

re: #396 rawmuse

They are having a baby, you know. The wife, I mean.

How'd he get to be mayor of San Fran while married to a woman?

/kidding

404 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:03:32pm

re: #372 zombie

On Mars, dig a ten mile deep canyon a hundred miles across and live in it, terraforming on the cheap, ref planet "Canyon" in Niven among others.

405 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:03:40pm

re: #400 Dustyvet

My we can write great yarns here...:)

That was a perl.

406 Racer X  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:04:13pm

I got it!

zombie is the night clerk at the 7-Eleven in San Mateo!

407 Attaboid  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:04:18pm

re: #397 Sharmuta

Wait till they discover my fossilized bones in 6 million years. "they" won't know what to make of them. HAHAHA.

408 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:04:21pm

re: #403 Dark_Falcon

I know. "Breeder" is a dirty word here.

409 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:04:26pm

re: #376 BlueCanuck

I reccommend "Red Mars", "Green Mars", and "Blue Mars" by Kim Stanley Robinson. It's an interesting trilogy about the terraforming of Mars and the people that first colonized it. Thick books, heavy on the science but good for showing the difficulties it would entail.

Now, I'm having Arnold flashbacks from Total Recall.

410 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:04:31pm

re: #405 Kosh's Shadow

That was a perl.

Knits brows in consternation.

411 No. Just, no.  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:04:37pm

re: #405 Kosh's Shadow

That was a perl.

Are we getting crochet-ty?

412 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:04:59pm

A Scottish
tourist at his first baseball game...

A Scottish tourist
attended his first baseball game in the US and after a base hit he hears the fans roaring "Run...Run!"
The next batter connects
heavily with the ball and the Scotsman stands up and roars with the crowd in his thick accent: "R-r-run ya bahstard, r-run will ya!"

A third batter hits a slam and again the Scotsman, obviously pleased with his knowledge of the game, screams "R-r-run ya bahstard, r-r-run will ya!"

The next batter steadfastly holds his swing four times and as the ump calls a walk the Scotsman stands up and yells "R-r-run ya bahstard, r-r-run!"

All the surrounding fans giggle quietly and he sits down confused. A friendly fan, sensing his embarrassment, whispers to the Scotsman, "He doesn't have to run, he's got four balls."

After this explanation the Scotsman stands up in disbelief and screams, "Walk with pr-r-ride man! Walk with pr-r-ride!"

413 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:05:11pm

re: #400 Dustyvet
Purls of wisdom pouring out of every post...

414 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:05:12pm

re: #387 Attaboid

You're an astrophysicist!

Oh yeah, where are the globular clusters?

415 capitalist piglet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:05:20pm

re: #398 zombie

Who says I can't be all three?

Actually, I'm Chris Speier, a former shortshop for the Giants; in my retirement, I bought a Baskin-Robbins franchise, and in my spare time I work as a fire watcher, following in the footsteps of Jack Kerouac.

You got me figured out on the first try! Your prize: A Jamoca Fudge Sundae, on the house.

I sang the national anthem at a Giants game once. Were you there?!

416 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:05:41pm

re: #408 rawmuse

Really? Breeder? That's so Old School. I guess they never left the Liberal Ghetto. Most of the liberals that moved out of SF left and went off to have kids that wasn't popular with the In Crowd.

417 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:05:42pm

re: #404 itellu3times

On Mars, dig a ten mile deep canyon a hundred miles across and live in it, terraforming on the cheap, ref planet "Canyon" in Niven among others.

Cool we can use nukes to do the digging!

418 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:05:53pm

re: #378 Sharmuta

Transplanting isn't going to work. The Sun will still go supernova, Andromeda's going to collide with us, and there's a super massive black hole at the center of the galaxy. We're DOOOMED!

No, No, NO Sharm! The Savior will come and we will all ascend. Or is it the Ori will lead us to ascension? I can't remember.

419 Salamantis  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:06:03pm

re: #411 EmmmieG

Are we getting crochet-ty?

Stop needling him.

420 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:06:15pm

re: #401 ggt

In 500 years it could be like Star Trek. Just manufacure all the water you need on the Enterprise and beam it to the surface. Stranger things have happened.

Plenty of water in the solar system. Just bring a comet close enough and catch the water vapor.
That's what bothers me about those science fiction stories where aliens come to steal our water. Their solar system would also have comets, and those should last them as long as their star exists, given that water always gets recycled to a great extent.

Then, if they did get here, stealing comets would be easier and cheaper than getting water from Earth, and we'd never even know they were doing it.

421 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:06:20pm

re: #380 HelloDare

Macrame?

Floral arranging.

422 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:06:45pm

re: #419 Salamantis

Knot to knit pick, but... we did that one.

423 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:06:59pm

re: #421 ggt

Floral arranging.

ahh, ichibana.

424 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:07:02pm

Open Letter To Kansas School Board
Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. It was He who created all that we see and all that we feel. We feel strongly that the overwhelming scientific evidence pointing towards evolutionary processes is nothing but a coincidence, put in place by Him.

It is for this reason that I’m writing you today, to formally request that this alternative theory be taught in your schools, along with the other two theories. In fact, I will go so far as to say, if you do not agree to do this, we will be forced to proceed with legal action. I’m sure you see where we are coming from. If the Intelligent Design theory is not based on faith, but instead another scientific theory, as is claimed, then you must also allow our theory to be taught, as it is also based on science, not on faith.

Some find that hard to believe, so it may be helpful to tell you a little more about our beliefs. We have evidence that a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. None of us, of course, were around to see it, but we have written accounts of it. We have several lengthy volumes explaining all details of His power. Also, you may be surprised to hear that there are over 10 million of us, and growing. We tend to be very secretive, as many people claim our beliefs are not substantiated by observable evidence. What these people don’t understand is that He built the world to make us think the earth is older than it really is. For example, a scientist may perform a carbon-dating process on an artifact. He finds that approximately 75% of the Carbon-14 has decayed by electron emission to Nitrogen-14, and infers that this artifact is approximately 10,000 years old, as the half-life of Carbon-14 appears to be 5,730 years. But what our scientist does not realize is that every time he makes a measurement, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is there changing the results with His Noodly Appendage. We have numerous texts that describe in detail how this can be possible and the reasons why He does this. He is of course invisible and can pass through normal matter with ease...

425 kynna  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:07:25pm

I'm sure a Lizard has already pointed this out, but wherever there is freedom, there is less reproduction. If all the greens and idjits like Hillbillie Bill would help to promote freedom and free market capitalism by ... ya know ... not thwarting it at every turn, overpopulation would be a nonissue.

However, the left is doing a great job of leveling the population of Africa, so maybe they're just doing the best they can with what little the know.

426 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:07:29pm

re: #395 ggt

I don't see White Supremacists cozying up to Michelle Malkin.

I think the Left is just purposely misinterpreting and overreacting to a photo of Michelle and a guy Who had an 卐bama sign, implying that Obama was a Nazi. The moonbats are screaming that the guy was himself a nazi -- though they know that they're lying.

427 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:07:34pm

re: #376 BlueCanuck

I reccommend "Red Mars", "Green Mars", and "Blue Mars" by Kim Stanley Robinson. It's an interesting trilogy about the terraforming of Mars and the people that first colonized it. Thick books, heavy on the science but good for showing the difficulties it would entail.

Morning Blue/Lizards.

We managed to get about 30 new members over at LGF Face Book page.

428 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:07:35pm

re: #418 ggt

No, No, NO Sharm! The Savior will come and we will all ascend. Or is it the Ori will lead us to ascension? I can't remember.

In prison the convicts can be very, very condescending...:)

429 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:07:38pm

re: #417 jcm

Cool we can use nukes to do the digging!

Impacting an asteroid might be easier.

430 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:07:40pm

re: #409 ggt

Now, I'm having Arnold flashbacks from Total Recall.

I was going to give my name for the movie, but there is another lizard who doesn't like the word I'd use.

431 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:09:00pm

re: #429 itellu3times

Impacting an asteroid might be easier.

re: #429 itellu3times

Impacting an asteroid might be easier.

Even cooler, we use nukes to drive and aim the asteroid!

432 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:09:10pm

Good night, lizards.
3-5 more inches of gore-bull warming for the morning.

433 Desert Dog  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:09:21pm

re: #431 jcm

Even cooler, we use nukes to drive and aim the asteroid!

You just want to nuke something

434 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:09:36pm

re: #391 jcm
Well, IF zombie is the mayor of San Francisco that would make a cool cover! No one would ever guess! Hey, what if zombie is really Nancy Pelosi? Or Harry Reid?

435 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:09:40pm

re: #433 Desert Dog

You just want to nuke something

Oh, and you don't?

436 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:09:52pm

re: #415 capitalist piglet

I sang the national anthem at a Giants game once. Were you there?!

I remember it well!

437 Killian Bundy  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:09:56pm

PHOTO IN THE NEWS: "Extinct" Bird Seen, Eaten

A rare quail from the Philippines was photographed for the first time before being sold as food at a poultry market, experts say.

Found only on the island of Luzon, Worcester's buttonquail was known solely through drawings based on dated museum specimens collected several decades ago.

Scientists had suspected the species—listed as "data deficient" on the International Union for Conservation of Nature's 2008 Red List—was extinct.

/probably taste like chicken

438 Desert Dog  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:10:34pm

re: #435 Guanxi88

Oh, and you don't?

Well, ok, maybe just a small one...nothing too large, you know...

439 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:10:40pm

re: #420 Kosh's Shadow

Plenty of water in the solar system. Just bring a comet close enough and catch the water vapor.
That's what bothers me about those science fiction stories where aliens come to steal our water. Their solar system would also have comets, and those should last them as long as their star exists, given that water always gets recycled to a great extent.

Then, if they did get here, stealing comets would be easier and cheaper than getting water from Earth, and we'd never even know they were doing it.

So far, it seems that Science is the path to follow if we want to survive. I'm all for it!

440 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:10:41pm

re: #433 Desert Dog

You just want to nuke something

Just a little one!

441 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:10:46pm

re: #437 Killian Bundy

(Probably was chicken).

442 Racer X  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:10:51pm

re: #420 Kosh's Shadow

Hydrogen is the most common element in the universe. No need to snag a comet. Oxygen is third. We could make our own water.

443 Salamantis  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:11:00pm

re: #424 HelloDare

I demand equal time for the Invisible Pink Unicorn! Her blessed divinity is undeniable, as it is miraculous beyond rational dispute that She could be Invisible and Pink simultaneously!

444 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:11:02pm

re: #434 realwest

Well, IF zombie is the mayor of San Francisco that would make a cool cover! No one would ever guess! Hey, what if zombie is really Nancy Pelosi? Or Harry Reid?

He has too much good sense to be either of those two.

445 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:11:09pm

re: #434 realwest

Well, IF zombie is the mayor of San Francisco that would make a cool cover! No one would ever guess! Hey, what if zombie is really Nancy Pelosi? Or Harry Reid?

In reality, I'm one of the leaders of Code Pink.

(Believable, actually.)

446 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:11:34pm

re: #434 realwest

Well, IF zombie is the mayor of San Francisco that would make a cool cover! No one would ever guess! Hey, what if zombie is really Nancy Pelosi? Or Harry Reid?

zombie is Pelosi! WOOT we have figured out zombies secret identity!

447 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:11:43pm

I took another stroll through the comments at Hot Air...

so basically this site is devoted to hit pieces on Sarah Palin and endless discussions of Atheism

No wonder its going into the toilet


Lol. Why do conservatives hate their own blogs? There are plenty of creationist blogs, Euro-fascist supporting counterjihad blogs, Christian blogs, etc. but they suck. Nobody reads them and even fewer people comment on them. It's very odd.

448 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:12:03pm

re: #443 Salamantis

I demand equal time for the Invisible Pink Unicorn! Her blessed divinity is undeniable, as it is miraculous beyond rational dispute that She could be Invisible and Pink simultaneously!

Ahh, the intellectual pleasures of contemplating omnipotence! Invisible and pink, and why not?

449 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:12:04pm

re: #443 Salamantis

I demand equal time for the Invisible Pink Unicorn! Her blessed divinity is undeniable, as it is miraculous beyond rational dispute that She could be Invisible and Pink simultaneously!

The problem with that is that like all unicorns, she's in the tank for Obama.

450 tradewind  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:12:25pm

re: #440 jcm

Don't cha love that term, ' targeted use of tactical nukes'...

451 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:12:29pm

re: #402 kahall Well then I think someone was just using her name. I really don't think Michelle Malkin is a Neo-Nazi - not even CLOSE.

452 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:12:37pm

re: #447 Killgore Trout

You're going to have to update your avatar with some blood and scars.

453 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:12:41pm

While the LGF think tank continues to work on solving all humanity's problems for the rest of time, I'll sleep soundly knowing that the Universe is in good hands.

Good night, y'all.

454 Desert Dog  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:12:47pm

re: #440 jcm

Just a little one!

Accuracy is relative with that one...you just have to get it "in the neighborhood"

455 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:13:38pm

re: #443 Salamantis

I demand equal time for the Invisible Pink Unicorn! Her blessed divinity is undeniable, as it is miraculous beyond rational dispute that She could be Invisible and Pink simultaneously!

How dare you deny the Valar? May you join Morgoth!

456 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:14:28pm

re: #455 Sharmuta

How dare you deny the Valar? May you join Morgoth!

please, don't you guys heed the words of Dr. bronner? All are one.

457 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:14:30pm

re: #454 Desert Dog

Accuracy is relative with that one...you just have to get it "in the neighborhood"

That one I think neighborhood would be defined by the state.

458 Racer X  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:15:03pm

re: #447 Killgore Trout

Why do conservatives hate their own blogs?

Thats a pretty broad statement, and makes little sense. Yes, there are whackjobs out there; the guy screaming the loudest is rarely the voice of reason.

459 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:15:05pm

Could zombie be in law enforcement?

460 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:15:10pm

re: #452 zombie

Heh. Maybe a good old fashioned black eye.

461 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:15:12pm

re: #447 Killgore Trout

I took another stroll through the comments at Hot Air...


Lol. Why do conservatives hate their own blogs? There are plenty of creationist blogs, Euro-fascist supporting counterjihad blogs, Christian blogs, etc. but they suck. Nobody reads them and even fewer people comment on them. It's very odd.

It's like the PUMAs noticed during the election- we eat our own.

462 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:15:29pm

How To Tell If There Is A Terrorist At The Airport


Image: camel.jpg

463 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:15:46pm

re: #437 Killian Bundy

PHOTO IN THE NEWS: "Extinct" Bird Seen, Eaten

/probably taste like chicken

Bet it would taste great with these:

Boletus edulis, the "mushroom king", a beautiful, almost legendary, relatively rare mushroom, edible in almost any (even raw) form, and commonly considered to be the best-tasting mushroom.

464 Desert Dog  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:15:47pm

re: #457 jcm

That one I think neighborhood would be defined by the state.

Looks more like "hemisphere" weapon.

465 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:15:55pm

re: #457 jcm

That one I think neighborhood would be defined by the state.

Cripes I love nuclear weapons! Hydrogen bombs will probably go down as the single most important invention in the past 100 years. Absolute marvels and triumphs of physics, engineering, and political will.

466 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:16:21pm

re: #443 Salamantis

I demand equal time for the Invisible Pink Unicorn! Her blessed divinity is undeniable, as it is miraculous beyond rational dispute that She could be Invisible and Pink simultaneously!

The Pink Invisible Unicorn is a chump.

467 capitalist piglet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:16:26pm

re: #445 zombie

In reality, I'm one of the leaders of Code Pink.

(Believable, actually.)

That'd be a cool rumor to start - Code Pink has a mole. We could work with that one.

468 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:16:44pm

re: #462 Dustyvet

How To Tell If There Is A Terrorist At The Airport

[Link: billstclair.com...]

That's profiling.

RACIST!
/

469 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:16:54pm

re: #455 Sharmuta

How dare you deny the Valar? May you join Morgoth!

Go back to Aman.

470 Shug  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:16:56pm

re: #462 Dustyvet

How To Tell If There Is A Terrorist At The Airport


[Link: billstclair.com...]


they do tend to drive Mercedes

471 Kragar  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:17:22pm

I'm just wondering about over Macho Grande

472 capitalist piglet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:17:36pm

re: #465 Guanxi88

Cripes I love nuclear weapons! Hydrogen bombs will probably go down as the single most important invention in the past 100 years. Absolute marvels and triumphs of physics, engineering, and political will.

Now there's a sentence you don't see every day. LOL

473 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:18:09pm

re: #443 Salamantis

I demand equal time for the Invisible Pink Unicorn! Her blessed divinity is undeniable, as it is miraculous beyond rational dispute that She could be Invisible and Pink simultaneously!

Have you see these?

474 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:18:19pm

re: #471 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm just wondering about over Macho Grande

It's a little room at the front of the airplane where the pilot sits. But that's not important right now.

475 Salamantis  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:18:38pm

re: #449 Dark_Falcon

The problem with that is that like all unicorns, she's in the tank for Obama.

How do you think he got elected? Bow before her sacred Whiteness, you blasphemer, and kiss her Hallowed Hoof in abject obesiance! But beware; should you dare to touch Her Holy Horn, you will be doomed to spend eternity mucking the Endless Stables, and never receive a Celestial Ride.

476 steve  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:18:53pm

re: #442 Racer X

Hydrogen is the most common element in the universe. No need to snag a comet. Oxygen is third. We could make our own water.

Could do hydrogen peroxide also!

477 Kragar  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:19:02pm

re: #474 Guanxi88

It's a little room at the front of the airplane where the pilot sits. But that's not important right now.

Not a buh, a bomb.

478 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:19:10pm

re: #426 zombie
Ah, maybe that's it zombie; but LGFer kahall sorta said that "she" posted some stuff at Stormefront or some other place where the Neo-Nazis of the Net get together. But I still think someone just stole her name if that true.

479 Desert Dog  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:19:47pm

re: #474 Guanxi88

It's a little room at the front of the airplane where the pilot sits. But that's not important right now.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue

480 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:20:01pm

re: #475 Salamantis

you will be doomed to spend eternity mucking the Endless Stables, and never receive a Celestial Ride.

This is exactly why I don't believe in female orgasms (or gravity).

481 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:20:04pm

re: #465 Guanxi88

Cripes I love nuclear weapons! Hydrogen bombs will probably go down as the single most important invention in the past 100 years. Absolute marvels and triumphs of physics, engineering, and political will.

Hell yeah.

The death toll due to war in the 45 years after August '45 is something like 80% less than the 45 years before. How many inventions have saved 10's of millions of lives.

482 Racer X  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:20:22pm
Ten most common elements in the universe by mass:
Z Element Parts per million
1 Hydrogen 750,000
2 Helium 230,000
8 Oxygen 10,000
6 Carbon 5,000
10 Neon 1,300
26 Iron 1,100
7 Nitrogen 1,000
14 Silicon 700
12 Magnesium 600
16 Sulfur 500
483 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:20:31pm

re: #475 Salamantis

How do you think he got elected? Bow before her sacred Whiteness, you blasphemer, and kiss her Hallowed Hoof in abject obesiance! But beware; should you dare to touch Her Holy Horn, you will be doomed to spend eternity mucking the Endless Stables, and never receive a Celestial Ride.

You just said she was pink!

And as for the Whiteness:

RACIST!

484 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:20:34pm

re: #472 capitalist piglet

Now there's a sentence you don't see every day. LOL

Sorry, it's just the way I'm wired. Ever see those DVD's for sale, showing nuclear tests? It's about 3 1/2 hours of pure fission, fusion, beauty. Tests in the air, tests underground, tests underwater, tests at ground level, tests just on the edge of space, test after test after glorious test.

The colors are amazing, the sheer power they throw off impressive. The species that perfects this technology is more than ready to move off-world (Bladerunner).

485 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:20:38pm

re: #467 capitalist piglet

That'd be a cool rumor to start - Code Pink has a mole. We could work with that one.

Actually, for two years I let "clues" slip that I was in ANSWER. They actually fell for it, from reports that filtered back to me. Finger-pointing, purges, "struggle sessions" -- the works. They never did find out which among them was the traitor!

486 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:21:08pm

re: #479 Desert Dog

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue

We all did.

487 Salamantis  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:21:13pm

re: #466 HelloDare

The Pink Invisible Unicorn is a chump.

A chump, you say? Why, She grazes upon the very straw from which the wheat of the Flying Spaghetti Monster sprang!

488 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:21:37pm

They Took Er Jobs!

/HA

489 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:21:50pm

re: #444 Dark_Falcon
Hell a friggin' rock has more sense to be either of those two.

490 Racer X  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:21:50pm

re: #480 Sharmuta

This is exactly why I don't believe in female orgasms (or gravity).

Sharm, you really need to get out in the real world more often.

;-)

491 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:22:14pm

re: #478 realwest

Ah, maybe that's it zombie; but LGFer kahall sorta said that "she" posted some stuff at Stormefront or some other place where the Neo-Nazis of the Net get together. But I still think someone just stole her name if that true.

No way, absolutely ridiculous, just a leftist mole action. 100% guananteed.

492 Guanxi88  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:22:19pm

re: #488 Gus 802

They Took Er Jobs!


[Video]/HA

Goo-backs. Brilliant episode, and a pretty nifty premise.

493 steve  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:22:28pm

re: #482 Racer X

I figured that Carbon would be higher with as many marshmallows as I have burned;P

494 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:23:19pm

A rare bird, once thought extinct, was recently seen, then sold, then eaten.

495 HelloDare  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:23:44pm

That's list was revised in 2005. Here's the new one.

1 Hydrogen 750,000
2 Helium 230,000
8 Oxygen 10,000
6 Carbon 5,000
9 Obama ego 1,200
10 Neon 1,300
26 Iron 1,100
7 Nitrogen 1,000
14 Silicon 700
12 Magnesium 600
16 Sulfur 500

496 Desert Dog  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:23:56pm

Good night all.

497 Salamantis  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:24:09pm

re: #483 Dark_Falcon

You just said she was pink!

And as for the Whiteness:

RACIST!

She is Divine; She can be all three in one. It's a Horsely Trinity!

498 Erik The Red  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:24:19pm

re: #496 Desert Dog

Good night all.

Night DD

499 realwest  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:25:07pm

Well y'all it's been grand but I gotta get some sleep.
Hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all.

500 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:25:11pm

re: #492 Guanxi88

Been a while since I saw that one. From the year 4035!

501 Killian Bundy  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:25:28pm

re: #494 rawmuse

A rare bird, once thought extinct, was recently seen, then sold, then eaten.

/yeah, what I just said

502 stevieray  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:25:40pm

re: #494 rawmuse

A rare bird, once thought extinct, was recently seen, then sold, then eaten.

Eating endangered species... reminds me of a movie...

503 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:26:04pm

re: #482 Racer X

Ten most common elements in the universe by mass:
Z Element Parts per million
1 Hydrogen 750,000
2 Helium 230,000
8 Oxygen 10,000
6 Carbon 5,000
10 Neon 1,300
26 Iron 1,100
7 Nitrogen 1,000
14 Silicon 700
12 Magnesium 600
16 Sulfur 500

Neon? In fifth place? Man, I wouldn't have guessed that in a million years. I would have guessed Sodium or something.

504 Salamantis  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:26:16pm

re: #480 Sharmuta

This is exactly why I don't believe in female orgasms (or gravity).

Who needs to believe? I can provide you with personal knowledge of both!

/white smoke and flat-out running

505 Promethea  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:26:46pm

re: #375 zombie

Why thank you!

The scary part is, I never even allow myself to talk about the fields I really know about, lest I give too many clues to my identity!

You can identify my area of expertise by the process of elimination, winnowing it down to just those areas of knowledge that I never discuss here.

You are a mystery, wrapped in a puzzle, surrounded by an enigma!

I believe that you are a professor of medieval Spanish literature, but don't tell me if I'm right or wrong. You must keep your identity secret.

506 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:26:53pm

re: #471 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm just wondering about over Macho Grande

You, over Macho Grande?

507 Racer X  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:27:34pm

re: #494 rawmuse

A rare bird, once thought extinct, was recently seen, then sold, then eaten.

Its just like deja vu all over again.

508 Dadzilla  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:28:42pm

Why didn't I read this about 30 minutes ago, I think I just impregnated my wife again!

509 Dustyvet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:29:03pm
510 Racer X  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:29:32pm

re: #503 zombie

Neon? In fifth place? Man, I wouldn't have guessed that in a million years. I would have guessed Sodium or something.

Sure explains the sign in front of The Restaurant At The End Of The Universe.

511 rawmuse  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:30:07pm

Later, Lizards. I am going out for some ivory billed woodpecker.

512 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:30:16pm

re: #505 Promethea

You are a mystery, wrapped in a puzzle, surrounded by an enigma!

I believe that you are a professor of medieval Spanish literature, but don't tell me if I'm right or wrong. You must keep your identity secret.

You're way off.

...

It's Renaissance Spanish Literature.

Medieval -- humph! You gotta be kidding me. Gonzalo de Berceo was a hack!

513 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:31:12pm

re: #509 Dustyvet

Or as Time magazine would call it. The "Yes We Can" war.

The three monkees of the Democratic party.

514 Kragar  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:31:15pm

re: #506 x-wing

You, over Macho Grande?

I dont think I'll ever be over Macho Grande

515 Kragar  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:31:52pm

re: #508 Dadzilla

Why didn't I read this about 30 minutes ago, I think I just impregnated my wife again!

You too?

//

516 efuseakay  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:31:55pm

Too bad his parents weren't so wise...

517 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:32:57pm

re: #513 Gus 802

Or as Time magazine would call it. The "Yes We Can" war.

The three monkees of the Democratic party.

Lemme guess:

Tork
Dolenz
and Nesmith?

Jones would have to be Labor, wouldn't he?

518 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:34:15pm

I whaaant a mastiff!

519 zombie  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:34:54pm

re: #518 ggt

I whaaant a mastiff!

My Photoshop sensors just exploded.

520 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:35:35pm

re: #517 zombie

That would work. I was thinking about the see no evil, speak no evil, see no evil faction of the Dems. It could be applied directly to the WH, Senate, and Congress.

I can't apply specific names due to the current political climate if you know what I mean. Considering it is in reference to a primate.

521 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:35:46pm

re: #497 Salamantis

She is Divine; She can be all three in one. It's a Horsely Horseshit Trinity!

fixed. ;)

522 Salamantis  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:35:56pm

re: #518 ggt

I whaaant a mastiff!

When THAT big dog started hanging, I think I'd have to stay on the porch!

523 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:37:16pm

re: #518 ggt

I once helped to do a land survey in some land were they bred those. Cripes they were scary but timid. You get more saliva than anything from those dogs.

524 capitalist piglet  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:37:19pm

re: #485 zombie

That. Is. Awesome.

525 Killian Bundy  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:38:15pm

re: #518 ggt

I whaaant a mastiff!

/dogs droolez, cats rulez

526 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:38:20pm

re: #519 zombie

My Photoshop sensors just exploded.


Bigtime.

527 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:38:44pm

re: #523 Gus 802

I once helped to do a land survey in some land were they bred those. Cripes they were scary but timid. You get more saliva than anything from those dogs.

I know! :)

528 jcm  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:39:16pm

re: #519 zombie

My Photoshop sensors just exploded.

Photoshop... no way...

///

529 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:39:32pm

re: #519 zombie

My Photoshop sensors just exploded.

No way, the shadow looks true. Are you pulling my leg?

530 Salamantis  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:39:41pm

re: #485 zombie

Actually, for two years I let "clues" slip that I was in ANSWER. They actually fell for it, from reports that filtered back to me. Finger-pointing, purges, "struggle sessions" -- the works. They never did find out which among them was the traitor!

And all the while you were deeply burrowed in World Won't Wait...;~)

531 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:40:12pm

re: #530 Salamantis

And all the while you were deeply burrowed in World Won't Wait...;~)

She's the president of the Flat Earth Society!

532 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:43:26pm

re: #531 ggt

They all take their orders from the Workers Socialist Party.

Communist Party.

Alex Cockburn speaks for them.

Most of them are bike messengers that want to have their "TV sketch" taken up by a Hollywood producer. You know.

533 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:46:28pm

Alex Cockburn speaks for them.

Yeah, I'd think about changing my last name if I were him.

/could you tell me your name again? {snicker}

534 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:48:35pm

re: #533 x-wing

It's pronounced "Coburn". I learned the hard way.

535 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:48:59pm

re: #533 x-wing

He already changed it from Dick Hertz. I'm kidding. Seriously though, I think everyone should live in the Bay area for a few months. If you move to San Francisco you can see the inner workings of the left. It's pretty funny. Sounds like it hasn't changed much.

536 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:52:57pm

re: #535 Gus 802

The more I know about the inner workings of the left, the more I want to move somewhere remote and stock up on rifles, ammo, non-perishable foods and gold, silver & platinum bullion.

537 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:53:21pm

re: #534 Sharmuta

It's pronounced "Coburn". I learned the hard way.

There is a joke there I think,but...how did you find out exactly?

538 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:53:42pm
539 Buster Bunny  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:54:30pm
So I strongly suggest that you “STOP CREATING” and take your children to a doctor and have something done to prevent them from reproducing. If you don’t, your future generations will simply breed themselves to death. Spread this message to the entire world.

This person is an excellent reason for not using Cheese Whiz or Banana Flavoured Whipped Cream as a contraceptive gel. It can produce cheese-heads ... or worse.

540 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:54:30pm

I wind is blowing and it sounds omninous in Near Iowa outsides.

541 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:55:29pm

re: #537 x-wing

There is a joke there I think,but...how did you find out exactly?

It's the name of a fine Sherry, and a wine connoisseur corrected me.

542 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:55:49pm
543 Buster Bunny  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:56:03pm

re: #533 x-wing

Alex Cockburn speaks for them.

Yeah, I'd think about changing my last name if I were him.

/could you tell me your name again? {snicker}

There is some cream available for treating that. But I'd just suggest that slowing down and enjoying it might work too.

544 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:56:50pm

re: #536 Fenway_Nation

The more I know about the inner workings of the left, the more I want to move somewhere remote and stock up on rifles, ammo, non-perishable foods and gold, silver & platinum bullion.

I didn't buy the ammo but they managed to "follow me." Somehow they're spreading like flies. I think it's because as a leftist you get to demand they raise the price of things you hate and taxes to support your artistic lifestyle and your favorite hiking trail so to speak.

545 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 10:57:34pm

re: #535 Gus 802

No thanks, I don't want to even get lost and have to drive through that place. How did that igit Newsome ever get his claws into Kimberly Guillfoyle(sp) anyways?

/glad to to she wised up.

546 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:01:19pm

re: #545 x-wing

By being an opportunist. Once he had a "change of consciousness" he moved over to another woman no doubt. He ran against some Green Party guy that was more left than him. Newsome did keep the Blue Angels in SF. He's not as bad as things could be but it'll come in time. He probably won because the boys from the Castro and Polk Street found him handsome.

547 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:01:30pm

re: #541 Sharmuta

It's the name of a fine Sherry, and a wine connoisseur corrected me.


Aah, I dated a fine Sherry once ;>}

548 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:02:41pm

West SF and Chinatown isn't exactly liberal country.

549 NY Nana  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:04:37pm

Drive-by post! Must go to sleep before 2:30 AM, or I turn into a pumkin!

TTFN! Sweet dreams, lizards, and may you sleep well!

550 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:04:58pm

re: #546 Gus 802

Do you live there now, and for how long?

551 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:05:52pm

re: #544 Gus 802


Did I mention somewhere remote and abutting Canada? I'm not gonna pull one of these Alec Baldwin I-didn't-get-my-way-in-the-last-elections-so-I'm-gonna-throw-a-hissy-fit-and-threaten-to-leave-the-country-but-ultimately-I-won't-'cause-I'm-such-a-pussy deals, but while shopping around for precious metals last month, I was very impressed with how helpful one Canadian bank was and a couple of the products they had available- the only catch was that I could only do business in one of their physical branches, not over the phone or online...and since the don't have any branches in the USA and I live a ways away from the Canadian border, that's just a tad problematic.

552 Sharmuta  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:06:10pm

re: #547 x-wing

Didn't get Cockburn, I hope. ;p

553 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:07:26pm

re: #550 x-wing

Do you live there now, and for how long?

I was there for about 4 years. I ended up moving because I got tired of all the politics. The leftist crap drove me crazy. You couldn't even get a cup of coffee or a hamburger without running into some cause. The separatists are obnoxious to no end. I also got tired of worrying about earthquakes and people would party and make noise 7 days a week. Oh, I also got sick of all of the posers.

554 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:07:29pm

re: #548 Gus 802

West SF and Chinatown isn't exactly liberal country.

I had a buddy in the Army say that Chinatown was pretty dangerous in the '80s. Has it changed since then?

555 [deleted]  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:07:55pm
556 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:09:09pm

re: #551 Fenway_Nation

In country Canada would be nice. As long as you can make a living of course. No TV and a stack of books.

557 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:10:06pm

re: #554 x-wing

I had a buddy in the Army say that Chinatown was pretty dangerous in the '80s. Has it changed since then?

I'm not there now as I said. I never found Chinatown dangerous when I was there. I liked the way people carried themselves there. It was different from the rest of SF were everyone was acting.

558 Athens Runaway  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:10:16pm

I think an AOL address is a sign that what's going to be said is stupid.

LGF enters the Eternal September.

559 ggt  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:10:19pm

weet dreams all!

560 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:10:21pm

re: #552 Sharmuta

Didn't get Cockburn, I hope. ;p


LOL, Nope just a broken heart :( But it was great while it lasted, she was too good for me and I knew it ;>}

/

561 Macker  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:11:09pm

re: #38 Charles

This could be a very pissed off creationist, attempting sarcasm, but slipping on the banana peel of creativity.

This guy isn't a member, is he? Please say it ain't so!

562 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:11:13pm

re: #555 Iron Fist

It's still in the vicinity of the Moonbat Hunting Preserve at Berekley. They grow the most wierdest moonbats there. I've been told that they aren't very good eating, though..

Bezerkley was almost worse. That's were you got the rich kid "leftists." Every weekend they'd have a protest about something and tear up the local shops. I'm not kidding about the rich kid aspect.

563 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:13:49pm

re: #556 Gus 802

I was specifically thinking Montana, just because Alberta ("Canada's Texas") would be the closest province.

/too bad Montana is hemmoraging jobs right now

564 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:14:33pm

re: #467 capitalist piglet

That'd be a cool rumor to start - Code Pink has a mole. We could work with that one.

Be sure, they assume it. God. That would be a rough gig.

565 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:15:24pm

re: #563 Fenway_Nation

If things were better I would consider Alaska myself.

566 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:15:29pm

re: #557 Gus 802

I'm not there now as I said. I never found Chinatown dangerous when I was there. I liked the way people carried themselves there. It was different from the rest of SF were everyone was acting.

OK, I thought the guy was trying to show us his toughness. Maybe he watched "Big Trouble in Little China" one too many times ;>}

/it's all in the reflexes.

567 2by2  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:15:51pm
568 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:16:46pm

re: #566 x-wing

Unless you're involved with the particular gang. Otherwise you would be OK.

569 x-wing  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:17:53pm

re: #568 Gus 802

Unless you're involved with the particular gang. Otherwise you would be OK.

No way he was a gang member...oooh look..it's the drinking thread

570 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:20:12pm

re: #553 Gus 802

I was there for about 4 years. I ended up moving because I got tired of all the politics. The leftist crap drove me crazy. You couldn't even get a cup of coffee or a hamburger without running into some cause. The separatists are obnoxious to no end. I also got tired of worrying about earthquakes and people would party and make noise 7 days a week. Oh, I also got sick of all of the posers.

Dear God, where in the City were you living? Try the Sunset. It's like being dead already, except you get good Chinese food.

571 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:21:32pm

re: #554 x-wing

I had a buddy in the Army say that Chinatown was pretty dangerous in the '80s. Has it changed since then?

I grew up in SF in the 80s, never found Chinatown dangerous. It's a nice part of town. Good food, hardworking people.

572 Gus  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:21:46pm

re: #570 SanFranciscoZionist

Nob Hill and Dolores Park near the Mission. I didn't like it.

573 BatGuano  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:22:25pm

I'm trying to catch up the this thread and I cannot. Every post I have read is a non sequitar.How can I make an informed, witty, intelligent comment when I do not know what is going on? I put it to you. As far the original subject of the thread the is concerned, we are no where near population saturation. No one here will experience over population except in mostly coastal areas where they are a warren of liberals anyway. And I would strongly suggest not allowing these cretins access to your children's reproductive organs. I now return you to the original programming.

574 wiffersnapper  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:22:58pm

I hope he's setting an example for the rest of us!

575 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:23:57pm

re: #572 Gus 802

Nob Hill and Dolores Park near the Mission. I didn't like it.

Oh, if you're not a lefty type, that could make you crazy. Try the Sunset, the Richmond. Very comfortable living.

576 itellu3times  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:24:30pm

re: #482 Racer X

Ten most common elements in the universe by mass:
Z Element Parts per million
1 Hydrogen 750,000
2 Helium 230,000
8 Oxygen 10,000
6 Carbon 5,000
10 Neon 1,300
26 Iron 1,100
7 Nitrogen 1,000
14 Silicon 700
12 Magnesium 600
16 Sulfur 500

That's just your theory, aethist fascist! Did you weigh the entire universe, I mean, yourself, personally, hmmm? Or are you in the pay of Big Sulfur, trying to raise prices?
/

577 Mel Lono  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:26:37pm

re: #573 BatGuano

I would suggest buying oceanfront property in Az, but that's just me.

578 BatGuano  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:30:32pm

re: #577 Mel Lono

No the Az coast is already over populated: Swordfish fisherman and all.

579 SixDegrees  Wed, Feb 18, 2009 11:34:01pm
Hard to argue with that.

Not really. The same experts predicting a population of 9.1 billion around 2050 are also predicting that 9.1 billion will be the world's peak population, and that the population will level off and decline thereafter. There are several reasons for this, but the most prominent one is the world's unrelenting march towards capitalism and the rising standard of living it brings. Large families only make sense in agricultural societies, where children can be pressed into labor for the family's good. As living standards rise, it makes more sense to concentrate the family's wealth on fewer children so they can receive the advanced education needed to thrive in an increasingly complex world.

Apparently, Hillbillie Bill has trouble finishing paragraphs.

If I have time, I'll dig up a reference later.

580 Buster Bunny  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 12:55:47am

re: #579 SixDegrees

They did all this about 30 years ago. Some barmy scientists worked out waay back in the early 80s that the food supply for the planet would run out by 1997.

Of course .. 1997 came and went .. and people still ate .. farted and pooped on their predictions. So, they revised the date upwards .. to a later date where it would again .. sound close and credible.

Its not the first time its happened.

581 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 1:34:21am

A thought for Hillbillie Bill (isn't that an interesting nic?):

AD ASTRA PER ASPERA

In other words -- "To the MOON Alice, to the moon".

582 uptight  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:48:31am

The over-population is vastly concentrated in the Third World.

Your correspondent's dreams should be focussed on them not you. We aren't being drowned with billions of Charles Johnson's.

Since population control doesn't seem to be a Third World priority, I suggest we lace the rice, flour and milk we supply as food aid, with contraceptives. Okay, the guys may grow breats, but that's a small price to pay for having a small enough population for you country's resources to deal with.

583 uptight  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:50:07am


The over-population is vastly skewed. The problem lies soley in the Third World.

Your correspondent's dreams should be focussed on them not you. We aren't being drowned with billions of Charles Johnsons.

Since population control doesn't seem to be a Third World priority, I suggest we lace the rice, flour and milk we supply as food aid, with contraceptives. Okay, the guys may grow breasts, but that's a small price to pay for having a small enough population for you country's resources to deal with.

584 Gbear  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:53:50am

Hillbillie should do his part, stop creating CO2,. and using our resources..

585 tai-pan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:53:12am

re: #49 iChef

I think Thomas Sowell said that once.

586 Abu Kuffar  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:15:56am
and a hole in the ozone layer now,

I read that first as asshole in the ozone layer, lol

587 Rune  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:28:35am

re: #580 Buster Bunny

They did all this about 30 years ago. Some barmy scientists worked out waay back in the early 80s that the food supply for the planet would run out by 1997.

Of course .. 1997 came and went .. and people still ate .. farted and pooped on their predictions. So, they revised the date upwards .. to a later date where it would again .. sound close and credible.

Its not the first time its happened.

40 years and counting. Paul R. Ehrlichs book Population Bomb from 1968 and Meadows Limits to Growth from 1972 and others like it. They predicted that population increase would result in widespread hunger in Western Europe and the USA, where hundreds of millions were going to starve to death – in the 1970s and 1980s – and that nations would cease to exist by the mid 80s.

Paul R. Ehrlich:
“the battle to feed all of humanity is over ... In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now."
"India couldn't possibly feed two hundred million more people by 1980," and "I have yet to meet anyone familiar with the situation who thinks that India will be self-sufficient in food by 1971."

- talk about trash doomsday porn. In fact it is correct that the UN predicts the human population will most likely reach 9 billion in this century. What they don’t say is that this is a UN prediction on human population peak – and that it from thereon is all downwards. And that the population growth is unevenly spread. Europe, the Western and industrialised world is already at below reproduction point. Some places, catastrophically so. We need more babies. Not less.

588 Sacred Plants  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:11:39am

One in how many humans ever living on this Earth is alive now?

Human overpopulation is the result of pyramid-scheme based social security. Where this is not the case, birthrates drop to ≤ 2.0 within one generation, such as among Muslim immigrants to Europe, where social security is overregulated.

In the long term it will depend on what system of social security will be able to liberate the inhabitants of this planet of those fears of the future that drive them to build pyramid families. When it is 500 years in the past our time might stand out as a critical period of transformation when the squandering of the fossile energy resources and the destructive overpopulation was ended by blanket basic income handouts paid from a fossile energy consumption tax redistributed through a political entity resulting out of planetary unification, and the population numbers of Earth may long have found their stable equilibrium.

Anyways, the real overpopulation these days is that of the food animals...

589 favre4favre  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:23:51am

"Hard to argue with that"? Seriously or are you just messing with people?
I cant believe you would rail against mass deportations yet support mass sterilization. Hopefully in 500 years we will be exploring the stars and colonizing space... unless the AGW people have their way and retard growth.

590 Sharmuta  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:25:10am

re: #589 favre4favre

The sarcasm seemed obvious enough to me.

591 docremulac  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:30:35am

We've seen "anti human group" philosophies before, where the future of the Earth was said to depend on the genocide of the Jews, Gypsies or homosexuals for instance, but this new anti-mankind thing has only been really popular since about the 1960s with the advent of Paul Ehrlich and his minions. I guess you could say it's the "politically correct genocidal philosophy" since it doesn't descriminate. Everybody needs to die.

To all those ant-populationists I say: "So what's stopping you? We need to depopulate so set a good example for the rest of us."

592 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:32:23am

'Hillbillie Bill'>!?!

How appropriate!

593 pbird  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:38:24am

Engh? Nice thread to wake up with. Hard to argue with crazy man.

594 FAVRE4FAVRE  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:43:47am

re: #590 Sharmuta

I must need more coffe.

595 the_flying_pig  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:51:39am

We'll be visiting and colonizing Mars and super-Earths within 200-300 years and beyond, gradually easing up overpopulation issue on our beloved Terra Firma.

First we must take care of that pesky Islamic global jihad, Dark-Age-loving creationists, UFO invaders and idiocratic politicians.

596 essayons7  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:58:13am

I can't agree with this, but it's an interesting position...

597 Yashmak  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 7:01:21am
So I strongly suggest that you “STOP CREATING” and take your children to a doctor and have something done to prevent them from reproducing.

Of COURSE! Why didn't we all see it, it's so SIMPLE! Because doctors are all happy to spay/neuter children these days. Yeah, that's the ticket.

HAH!

As much as this alamist's email is fun to laugh at, it's almost certainly true that at some point we're almost certainly going to run into problems with our population growth. We don't have to reach that point where the number of people exceeds the planet's ability to support them, before people start to experience increased misery. Afterall, our ability to get food/water etc where they need to be as a race, isn't 100%. At some point in the future (and no, I don't think we're there yet), I suspect that governments are going to have to take a good long look at population growth limiting measures.

598 Kaymad  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 7:06:04am

Anyone who believes over population is a problem has a duty to off themselves...for the planets sake of course.

599 Irish Rose  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 7:07:33am

Charles, I hope you do a public post like this one every time you receive a screed about eugenics, mass deportation, etc.

Expose the bastards.

600 damnyanqui  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 7:23:03am
I strongly suggest that you “STOP CREATING” and take your children to a doctor and have something done to prevent them from reproducing. If you don’t, your future generations will simply breed themselves to death. Spread this message to the entire world.

Cool.
So in the future, all those who listen to this lunacy will, in a single generation, surrender the planet to those who don't.
It's certainly fun to hear rants that talk about the "ozone hole," a problem which has already been addressed, and "starvation" a problem which happens in mismanaged Third World hellholes and has nothing to do with population.
Once backwards nations become civilized, population issues most often resolve themselves. Europe, the United States and Japan (one of the most densely populated countries in the world, and one of the most prosperous) actually have SHRINKING populations and only maintain their current population levels through immigration.
Anyone capable of reading this, and caring about the world's environment should be having MORE kids, not fewer.

601 samhein  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 7:27:00am

Anyone ever read "A Modest Proposal" ? I can't remember the author, but we had to read the essay in college. He "solved" the food problem.


re: #96 ted

The is only one certainty in the Universe: The ignorance of Liberals, Democrats and Moonbats:

The Population Bomb

Author Paul R. Ehrlich

"The Population Bomb (1968) is a book written by Paul R. Ehrlich. A best-selling work, it predicted disaster for humanity due to overpopulation and the "population explosion". The book predicted that "in the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death", that nothing can be done to avoid mass famine greater than any in the history, and radical action is needed to limit the overpopulation. History proved Ehrlich wrong, as the mass starvations predicted for the 1970s and 1980s never occurred."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

602 Sacred Plants  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 7:43:11am

re: #595 the_flying_pig

We'll be visiting and colonizing Mars and super-Earths within 200-300 years and beyond, gradually easing up overpopulation issue on our beloved Terra Firma.

Most probably most of the humans involved in a colonization of space will not have been born on the Old Planet.

603 pbird  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 7:56:29am

re: #601 samhein

Anyone ever read "A Modest Proposal" ? I can't remember the author, but we had to read the essay in college. He "solved" the food problem.

Johnathan Swift

604 Annar  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 8:02:07am

Sounds like a bishop of the Church of Euthanasia. (There is such a thing but it is much too vulgar to merit a link.)

605 the_flying_pig  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 8:08:25am

re: #602 Sacred Plants

Most probably most of the humans involved in a colonization of space will not have been born on the Old Planet.

Granted. I would expect future discovery of Earth-like worlds similar to ours would certainly motivate our desire to go out to the stars and get there somehow.

606 bulwrk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 8:20:23am

How can you believe in man made global warming and a hole in the ozone layer at the same time?I mean if there is a hole in the ozone won't the green house gases causing global warming escape?

607 ozemc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 8:20:24am

I think the guy was probably watching old Star Trek episodes and came across the one where Kirk goes to a replica of the Enterprise that ona planet filled with people so one girl can get a disease. I believe the episode was called "The Mark of Gideon".

608 DaChew  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 8:49:51am

future generations will simply breed themselves to death.

I heard that almost happened to Wilt Chamberlain.

609 pass the moonbaticide  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 8:53:16am
in the next 500 years the world’s population will be some where around 32 Billion people

Coincidentally, - and maybe this bozo has heard this statistic somewhere too - I heard that the current agricultural capability of the world's resources, if not squandered on growing fuel for vehicles (!) and carefully managed, would sustain a population of 32 Billion. And that's now, without future technological advances to increase crop yields, etc.
Does this fruitcake have a problem with the West, where procreation has been falling hugely below that required even for sustaining the current population ?

610 beeds  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 8:55:09am

Actually population is on the decline. Over the past century, we experienced significant growth due to a decline in infant mortality rates and an increase in life expectancies. As humans have become more modernized throughout the world, the need to have 6-10 babies is no longer a benefit to the family, rather it is a burden. Birth rates are in the negative numbers in the developed world...and as George Friedman says, "the reduction process that took place decades ago in the advanced industrial world is now underway in the least developed countries. Having ten children in Sao Paolo is the surest path to economic suicide."

611 Spiny Norman  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:03:05am

re: #609 pass the moonbaticide

in the next 500 years the world’s population will be some where around 32 Billion people

Coincidentally, - and maybe this bozo has heard this statistic somewhere too - I heard that the current agricultural capability of the world's resources, if not squandered on growing fuel for vehicles (!) and carefully managed, would sustain a population of 32 Billion. And that's now, without future technological advances to increase crop yields, etc.
Does this fruitcake have a problem with the West, where procreation has been falling hugely below that required even for sustaining the current population ?

Some people still believe that Paul Ehrlich is a Prophet and there's no dissuading them.

Invincible Ignorance in action.

612 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:11:26am
613 Dadmin  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:57:32am

Hillbillie Bill has his shorts in a wad. There will be no overpopulation because history has proven that mankind is doomed to repeat it; and Hillbillie Bill will be right there to ensure history repeats itself. When it comes to Chicken Littles, it'll be people like Hillbillie Bill who will coronate and enthrone the next Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, or Mao to protect Mother Earth. And when people like Charles say it's "Hard to argue with that", then he's been listening to "Sympathy for the Devil" too many times.

614 The_Vig  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:38:19am

How about we get off of the planet. Why would any civilization limit itself to one chunk of matter hurtling through infinity. At any moment an asteroid or something may hit us and kill most if not all of humanity. When Yellowstone park blows about the same will happen.

We can grow food on a space station.

We can grow food on other planets.

We can turn earth into a nice little park filled with the history of humanity. The future is in space.

Or we can just sit on this rock and kill each other for the rest of eternity. Or until the sun dies.

615 mashiki  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 10:52:11am

re: #96 ted

The is only one certainty in the Universe: The ignorance of Liberals, Democrats and Moonbats:
The Population Bomb

Have to agree to a large extent, however the main reason why it never came to pass was due to the work of people like NormanBorlaug, and the green revolution. (yes I know how much some people detest wiki, it's convenient and the information is there if you search it)

And that will continue to be the reason. Someone always looking to the answer to the problem on the horizon, and finding a solution to it.

616 trulyyours  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 12:00:20pm

Ten most common elements in the universe by mass: (January 2009 update)
Z Element Parts per million
432 Democratic BS 1.25 Trillion
1 Hydrogen 750,000
2 Helium 230,000
8 Oxygen 10,000
6 Carbon 5,000
10 Neon 1,300
26 Iron 1,100
7 Nitrogen 1,000
14 Silicon 700
12 Magnesium 600
16 Sulfur 500

617 KyMouse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 12:02:50pm

Well, let's see...the populations of Germany, Italy, Spain, Russia, Sweden, Portugal, Greece, Hungary, Switzerland and about a dozen other countries have been experiencing fewer and fewer births, and their numbers are being kept up a bit by the arrival of new immigrants.

And how come people like him never offer to eliminate their own carbon footprints in order to decrease the surplus population?

A few years ago, the society page in my local newspaper showed photos from the Planned Parenthood party that was attended by wealthy sponsors (I wasn't invited). One picture showed a well-heeled and very pregnant guest. I wondered if she felt uncomfortable, since the theme of the party was reducing the world's population. As I read the article, however, I got the impression that rich white families weren't the population group they wanted to reduce. Go figure.

618 DCMC  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 12:08:11pm

Not so funny actually; it's the subject of Garrett Hardin's famous 1968 essay "The Tragedy of the Commons" : http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/162/3859/1243

619 a marine mom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 12:12:29pm

Looks like the gene pool needs a little chlorine treatment now.

620 RC51  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 1:26:45pm

Once Global Warming melts Antarctica then we can colonize there!

621 Mr Spiffy  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:55:31pm

Too bad Hillbillie Bill's parents didn't take that advice

622 Muadib  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 7:17:16pm

Can't we just neuter and spay the Liberals, Fascists, Socialists, and Communists?

/kidding

623 samhein  Fri, Feb 20, 2009 8:04:00am

That's it! Thank You!

re: #603 pbird

Johnathan Swift

624 Guile  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:05:00pm

A funny email, but honestly a very serious problem someone will have to deal with someday. The video above is an old lecture from a professor at UC-Boulder. Check it out if you have a minute.


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