Economic Failure Endorses Stimulus

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If there’s anyone still alive with a worse record on addressing economic problems, I don’t know who it would be. Jimmy Carter gives the stimulus bill the Kiss of Death.

ATLANTA (AP) — Former President Jimmy Carter has voiced support for President Barack Obama’s plan to stimulate the economy.

Carter says he has “full confidence” in Obama’s proposal and expects it will take about six months for the economy to begin improving.

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825 comments

1 mark_H  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:17:08pm

Oh No, the kiss of death!

2 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:17:37pm

Bwahahahahaha!

This stuff writes itself.

3 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:18:18pm

Yes, that will definately get the ball rolling to recovery.

4 Kragar  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:18:26pm

Taste the malaise, suckers

5 FightingBack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:18:43pm

Ah, the days of 19% interest rates.

6 DEZes  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:19:11pm

Bad politicians don't die, they just hang around to torment us.

7 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:19:17pm

re: #5 FightingBack

Ah, the days of 19% interest rates.

Happy days are here again.

8 krisstingle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:19:21pm

Yea, After we loose everything.

9 turn  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:19:40pm

Oh shit, gas rationing and 55 mph again!

10 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:19:40pm

re: #6 DEZes

Bad Democrat politicians don't die, they just hang around to torment us.

FIFY.

11 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:19:55pm

re: #5 FightingBack

Ah, the days of 19% interest rates.

yeah, the good old days
disco inferno

12 FightingBack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:19:56pm

Gas Lines

13 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:20:06pm

What's another name for misery?

My guess is Obama comes out with a Dolor Index™ by the end of next year.

14 pjaicomo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:20:16pm

That bonehead probably has "full confidence" in the salmonella peanut plant too.

15 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:20:20pm

And Hamas can be trusted.

Go

Away.

16 DEZes  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:20:21pm

re: #10 Honorary Yooper
LOL, thanks.

17 FightingBack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:20:33pm

Hyperinflation

18 Colonel Panik  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:20:42pm

This cartoon is looking more and more prophetic: Welcome Back Carter

19 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:20:51pm
20 Bill Amos  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:20:59pm

"Its the Jews fault"/Jimmah Carter

21 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:21:02pm

re: #9 turn

Oh shit, gas rationing and 55 mph again!

I will never abide by the fucking limit ever again. That speed limit is the first thing I noticed about the insidiousness of the federal government. There are some issues best left to the states, engineers, and individual drivers.

22 x-wing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:21:17pm

Six months? We may all be dead. or broke or both by then.

23 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:21:51pm

It's the Economy, Stupid.

The economy will improve anyway. Little of the sitimulus will have actually happened when the 6 months is up, stupid.

24 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:21:59pm

Is that the same "six months" that it would take for Gaza to become Disneyland?

25 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:22:14pm
26 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:22:22pm

re: #22 x-wing

Six months? We may all be dead. or broke or both by then.

each family will be given one of the bedrooms. kitchen will be divided on a time per family need.

27 Neutral President  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:22:55pm

Now all we need is France endorsing our military strategy in Afghanistan.

/

28 FightingBack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:22:56pm

Working for Peanuts

29 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:23:01pm

9 Bizarre Moments in Economic History

5. Adjustable Rate Mortgage, Archduke Ferdinand?

In the 1860s, the rulers of the newly-formed Austro-Hungarian Empire encouraged their bankers to be more free with their lending standards. Their goal was to encourage growth in the empire. The result (this is going to sound eerily familiar) was over-speculation in building, massive default on borrowed funds, and economic collapse throughout Central Europe. The worldwide depression reached all the way to the United States and triggered the Panic of 1873. On the bright side, many of the most beautiful buildings in Europe come from this period of “irrational exuberance.”

30 deWildcats  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:23:24pm

Those who don’t learn from the mistakes of the past are destined to repeat them – 1st hand experience provided by J Carter

31 Irish Rose  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:23:27pm

An economy-stimulating, poverty-reducing 13 bucks more, in my paycheck every week... yay!

Happy days are here again.

/

32 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:23:28pm

re: #23 BigPapa

It's the Economy, Stupid.

The economy will improve anyway. Little of the sitimulus will have actually happened when the 6 months is up, stupid.

No it won't, because Obama's economic fiddling will sink it even further. What economy are you talking about.

33 wrenchwench  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:23:31pm

Sounds kinda like the groundhog, but in this case it's the Killer Rabbit that saw its shadow. "Only 6 more months of recession!"

34 Bob Dillon  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:23:50pm

Ahhhh ... afternoon comedy relief.

35 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:23:57pm

re: #27 ArchangelMichael

Now all we need is France endorsing our military strategy in Afghanistan.

/

Ha Ha... not!

36 fpxr  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:24:22pm

re: #13 Noam Sayin'

"Dolor Index"
I do appreciate that.

37 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:24:28pm

re: #1 mark_H

Oh No, the kiss of death!

Dammit--I was going to say that.

Well, like calls to like.

39 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:24:58pm

Economic failure? How about "All-around, lifetime achievement failure"?

40 FightingBack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:25:16pm

Stagflation

41 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:25:20pm

re: #25 taxfreekiller

There will be no real justice in America until the A.C.L.U. is dismantled.

and the NEA

42 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:25:22pm

Epic Fail endorses Obama Plan!

43 Kragar  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:25:23pm

So not only do I learn I'm getting a 5% pay cut, now I learn they want to put a toll back on the bridge I need to cross to get back to work, even though they only had a toll to cover the bridge bonds on those were paid off in 2002

44 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:25:39pm

re: #31 Irish Rose

An economy-stimulating, poverty-reducing 13 bucks more, in my paycheck every week... yay!

Happy days are here again.

/

Congratulations! Have a latte. Have two. Consider yourself stimulated.

45 KenJen  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:25:40pm

Six months? Carter must know something Obama doesn't. The Big O is talking years.

46 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:25:52pm

I wonder how much the 0bama administration paid Jimmy Carter to hold back his endorsement until after it was signed into law?

If Carter had endorsed the stimulus bill while it was still before Congress, it would be history now.

47 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:25:59pm

re: #9 turn

Oh shit, gas rationing and 55 mph again!

Worse. The gas stations won't have any gas after you wait.

48 FightingBack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:26:11pm

Unemployment (over 7%)

49 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:26:31pm

re: #29 gmsc

The Panic of 1873 led to the Long Depression (1873-1897).

Is that what we have to look forward to?

50 FightingBack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:27:06pm

Inflation 1979: 11.3%

51 Neutral President  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:27:19pm

re: #43 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They want to bring back the Coronado Bridge toll? Under what horse-shit justification?

52 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:27:54pm

Fed Predicts Shrinking Economy

Washington (AP) - The Federal Reserve on Wednesday sharply downgraded its projections for the country's economic performance this year, predicting the economy will actually shrink and unemployment will rise higher.

Carter "right" again.

OT. And now they are talkiing about requiring a $1M liability insurance policy to own a gun. Try to find an insurance company that will insure you.

53 Mike in Georgia  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:28:02pm

I just wish he would move somewhere else, maybe Idaho.

54 Killian Bundy  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:28:37pm

The RAT hiding deep inside the stimulus bill

You’ve heard a lot about the astonishing spending in the $787 billion economic stimulus bill, signed into law this week by President Barack Obama. But you probably haven’t heard about a provision in the bill that threatens to politicize the way allegations of fraud and corruption are investigated — or not investigated — throughout the federal government.

The provision, which attracted virtually no attention in the debate over the 1,073-page stimulus bill, creates something called the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board — the RAT Board, as it’s known by the few insiders who are aware of it. The board would oversee the in-house watchdogs, known as inspectors general, whose job is to independently investigate allegations of wrongdoing at various federal agencies, without fear of interference by political appointees or the White House.

In the name of accountability and transparency, Congress has given the RAT Board the authority to ask “that an inspector general conduct or refrain from conducting an audit or investigation.” If the inspector general doesn’t want to follow the wishes of the RAT Board, he’ll have to write a report explaining his decision to the board, as well as to the head of his agency (from whom he is supposedly independent) and to Congress. In the end, a determined inspector general can probably get his way, but only after jumping through bureaucratic hoops that will inevitably make him hesitate to go forward.

/STIMULUS BILL MY ASS!

55 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:28:42pm

re: #48 FightingBack

Unemployment (over 7%)

Jobless Claims Hit All-Time High
(The actual number, not the percentage-gmsc)

WASHINGTON -- The number of unemployed workers receiving unemployment benefits jumped to an all-time high near 5 million earlier this month, while new jobless claims remain well above 600,000. Both figures were worse than expected and new projections from the Federal Reserve show unemployment rising for the rest of this year.

The Labor Department reported Thursday that the number of people receiving regular unemployment benefits edged up to 4.99 million, marking the fourth straight week those receiving benefits have been at a record level.

The continuing claims figure underscores the difficulty people are having in this recession finding another job, which means they are forced to receive benefits for a longer period.

An additional 1.5 million people are receiving benefits under an extended unemployment compensation program approved by Congress last year, bringing the total number of people receiving unemployment benefits to 6.54 million for the week ending Feb. 7.

56 bulwrk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:28:42pm

Oh great will Obama be telling us to just put on a sweater next winter?

57 ichef  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:28:48pm

I'm sure PrezBO is going to sell presidential assets like Jimmah did ... Jimmah had the presidential yacht sold and wanted to sell Camp David till he found out that he actually needed it.

58 Mosin Nagant  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:28:53pm

Did Carter blame the Jews for the economy yet? Im sure thats coming.

59 x-wing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:29:03pm

re: #31 Irish Rose

An economy-stimulating, poverty-reducing 13 bucks more, in my paycheck every week... yay!

Happy days are here again.

/


And wouldn't you know it. This year, if I have it figured right, I will be considered rich by our Government.

/I can only dream of what I would've bought with my $13 a week ;>}

60 KenJen  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:29:33pm

re: #53 Mike in Georgia

I just wish he would move somewhere else, maybe Idaho.

JImmy Carter-potato farmer.

61 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:29:33pm

re: #50 FightingBack

Inflation 1979: 11.3%

Mortgage interest April 2, 1980 - 20.00%

62 FightingBack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:29:48pm

Jimmy is hoping this'll work him up from the worst Pres. Second-to-last will sound better.

63 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:29:48pm

re: #49 Honorary Yooper

The Panic of 1873 led to the Long Depression (1873-1897).

Is that what we have to look forward to?

Gee, maybe it's just a remarkable coincidence.

/////

64 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:29:56pm

re: #43 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So not only do I learn I'm getting a 5% pay cut, now I learn they want to put a toll back on the bridge I need to cross to get back to work, even though they only had a toll to cover the bridge bonds on those were paid off in 2002

they will tax the gas that goes in, the emissions that come out, the rubber that you ride on, your bottle of water, the cigar in your lips, the wind in your colon AND the bridge that you cross to get to the job to pay for it all....then the taxes really begin to kick in

65 Wishing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:30:11pm

I have to say, I am enjoying Obama getting hugs from Carter.
It is so fitting.

66 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:30:43pm

re: #56 bulwrk

Oh great will Obama be telling us to just put on a sweater next winter?

I like sweaters. It's like wearing a hug. I think we all should wear sweaters. It would make us love each other all the more.

67 Fighton03  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:30:45pm

re: #53 Mike in Georgia

I just wish he would move somewhere else, maybe Idaho.

I have friends in ID, I'd never wish that pustulent pile of pork dung on any of them. The only places that deserve him are gaza or the PRK (Peoples Republik Of Kalifornia)....though he did such a good job in the foreign one a few years back.

68 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:30:55pm

I don't post links & I am not real comfortable with referring to other sites, but having said that, I am encouraged (by a coupla things on Drudge today) that the worm is waking up & starting to turn.

69 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:31:14pm

Want some more good news?
UN: Iran holds enough uranium for bomb

Iran has now built up a stockpile of enough enriched uranium for one nuclear bomb, United Nations officials acknowledged on Thursday.

In a development that comes as the Obama administration is drawing up its policy on negotiations with Tehran over its nuclear programme, UN officials said Iran had produced more nuclear material than previously thought.

It's the new Drudge headline.

70 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:31:19pm

Carter is only endorsing the Obama plan knowing it will kick him out of being the Worst President of the 20th/21st Centuries.

71 screaming_eagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:31:30pm

Is there a earmark in the stimulus that gives us all sweaters?

72 Shug  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:31:47pm

Misery Indices love company

73 freetoken  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:31:47pm

re: #55 gmsc

Yeah... pretty much in line with past recessions, unemployment keeps rising even after the actual contraction ends. That is the hard part... jobs don't come back until afterwards.

Lots of people here in California without work.

74 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:32:28pm

re: #68 brookly red

I don't post links & I am not real comfortable with referring to other sites, but having said that, I am encouraged (by a coupla things on Drudge today) that the worm is waking up & starting to turn.

You must be kidding? The fucking bill is history now. Obama can just sit back and let all these little detractors rant away, and his given them the bird.

75 Irish Rose  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:32:30pm

re: #44 Last Mohican

Congratulations! Have a latte. Have two. Consider yourself stimulated.

When news of the great $13 "rescue" for the working poor came across the wires a few days ago, I could just see the air going out of the "I voted for Barack, he's gonna lift us all out of poverty and pay my rent!" crowd.

Suspect that there are a lot of disillusioned Obama voters out there who are looking at that astonishing $13 per week figure, and thinking "WTF?!".

76 ichef  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:32:47pm

re: #66 Walter L. Newton

I like sweaters. It's like wearing a hug. I think we all should wear sweaters. It would make us love each other all the more.

How "Care Bear" of you ....

77 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:33:10pm

re: #56 bulwrk

Oh great will Obama be telling us to just put on a sweater next winter?

Yes, while he cranks the heat in the White House to 80.

78 x-wing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:33:22pm

re: #70 FurryOldGuyJeans

Carter is only endorsing the Obama plan knowing it will kick him out of being the Worst President of the 20th/21st Centuries.

Them some big shoes to fill, but Obama is growing nicely

79 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:33:36pm

Via HotAir

Arctic Ice Extent Understated Because of "Sensor Drift"

"The National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) has been at the forefront of predicting doom in the arctic as ice melts due to global warming. In May, 2008 they went so far as to predict that the North Pole would be ice-free during the 2008 'melt season,' leading to a lively Slashdot discussion. Today, however, they say that they have been the victims of 'sensor drift' that led to an underestimation of Arctic ice extent by as much as 500,000 square kilometers. The problem was discovered after they received emails from puzzled readers, asking why obviously sea-ice-covered regions were showing up as ice-free, open ocean. It turns out that the NSIDC relies on an older, less-reliable method of tracking sea ice extent called SSM/I that does not agree with a newer method called AMSR-E. So why doesn't NSIDC use the newer AMSR-E data? 'We do not use AMSR-E data in our analysis because it is not consistent with our historical data.' Turns out that the AMSR-E data only goes back to 2002, which is probably not long enough for the NSIDC to make sweeping conclusions about melting. The AMSR-E data is updated daily and is available to the public. Thus far, sea ice extent in 2009 is tracking ahead of 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008, so the predictions of an ice-free north pole might be premature."

Science!

80 pat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:33:39pm

Dumb and Dumber

81 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:33:48pm

re: #56 bulwrk

Oh great will Obama be telling us to just put on a sweater next winter?

No, it's the Smart Grid. Central control will set your thermostat and decided how many appliances you can run, when you go over allocation just turn off the power.

82 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:34:08pm

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

You must be kidding? The fucking bill is history now. Obama can just sit back and let all these little detractors rant away, and his given them the bird.

the bill can be dismantled and chucked

83 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:34:20pm

I Hope the brakes are good, this Change may be hard to recover from when it comes to a screeching halt. With Jimmah on board we are GUARANTEED to have lots to talk about in the next six months... assuming we can still afford the 'lectricity for this 'net thingy.

84 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:34:21pm

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Nobody's listening.

85 Shug  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:34:47pm

re: #80 pat

Dumb and Dumber

dumber and dumbest

86 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:34:54pm

re: #75 Irish Rose

When news of the great $13 "rescue" for the working poor came across the wires a few days ago, I could just see the air going out of the "I voted for Barack, he's gonna lift us all out of poverty and pay my rent!" crowd.

Suspect that there are a lot of disillusioned Obama voters out there who are looking at that astonishing $13 per week figure, and thinking "WTF?!".

And that was a PROJECTED $13 a week, just like Clinton having a PROJECTED reduced deficit that never seemed to have materialized since he hacked up expenditures.

87 joncelli  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:34:57pm

You know, there's just no way to mock this. It's automocking. Comedy is dead.

88 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:34:59pm

re: #69 Last Mohican

Want some more good news?
UN: Iran holds enough uranium for bomb

It's the new Drudge headline.

One bomb. But is it enriched to weapons grade?
Imagine the difficult decision Ahmadinejad needs to make - does he use his one bomb on the Great Satan or the Little Satan?

89 musicmaven  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:35:05pm

Is there ANY problem that we are facing now on the international front that did not have its roots in the Carter administration!
I spent 3 years overseas just to get away from his catastrophe of an administration.

Pleeeze go AWAY Jimmy!!

90 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:35:09pm

re: #75 Irish Rose

When news of the great $13 "rescue" for the working poor came across the wires a few days ago, I could just see the air going out of the "I voted for Barack, he's gonna lift us all out of poverty and pay my rent!" crowd.

Suspect that there are a lot of disillusioned Obama voters out there who are looking at that astonishing $13 per week figure, and thinking "WTF?!".

I have talk to a few about that 13 dollars. They are convinced, even though they don't know squat about what is in the bill, that there is more money coming their way. They can't tell me when or why, but they are convinced that his whole campaign was based around putting something back in their pockets.

It's going to take more than a few weeks for these people to understand what's really happening. And by that point the magician will have pulled another rabbit out of his butt.

91 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:35:41pm

re: #84 midwestgak

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Nobody's listening.

There ARE people listening, just not enough.

92 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:35:53pm

re: #81 jcm

No, it's the Smart Grid. Central control will set your thermostat and decided how many appliances you can run, when you go over allocation just turn off the power.

And if you keep doing this, the 0bamic Civilian Security Force will take you to their re-education camps.

93 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:36:15pm
The 39th President made his remarks Thursday after announcing the $10 million overhaul of his presidential library, which is scheduled to close Apr. 27 and reopen on Oct. 1 to coincide with Carter's 85th birthday.

Do you know how many Hamasniks that could feed?

How many mortages could be paid off?!?!?!?!?!?

94 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:36:26pm

re: #84 midwestgak

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Nobody's listening.

That must be the basis of the magical Kenysian multiplier.

95 acwgusa  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:36:52pm

Yeah, now we're done for.

96 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:37:08pm

re: #66 Walter L. Newton

I like sweaters. It's like wearing a hug. I think we all should wear sweaters. It would make us love each other all the more.

All yer sayin' is give cardigans a chance?

97 Steve Rogers  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:37:24pm

Carter apparently thinks "Stimulus" is a dictator. That's all Carter supports.

98 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:37:28pm

re: #94 gmsc

That must be the basis of the magical Kenysian multiplier.

The way things are going is more Malthusian.

99 Killian Bundy  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:37:30pm

Santelli's Chicago Tea Party

A must see TV rebellion.

/Rick Santelli is the most sane person in America

100 pat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:37:36pm

re: #79 Ben Hur

I actually noticed this 3 months ago when the Norwegians announced that 2008 was 500,000 square kilometers short of the 2007 figure at the same time of year. Any idiot could see from the photographs that there was in fact more sheet ice. It really goes to show how a theory, AGW, can take precedence over ones lying eyes and goes a long way to show that liberals may be marginally mentally ill.

101 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:37:38pm

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

You must be kidding? The fucking bill is history now. Obama can just sit back and let all these little detractors rant away, and his given them the bird.

Homi... I mean Walter, yes what you say is true but we gotta start somewhere, it might as well be here. No?

102 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:37:38pm

re: #87 joncelli

There, There... it will be OK. We ARE talking about Jimmy Carter, after all. There will be plenty of mocking available in the near future... trust me...

103 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:37:47pm
Carter says he has “full confidence” in Obama’s proposal and expects it will take about six months for the economy to begin improving. be in Shit City.

Original text of statement, found in dumpster.

/channeling Iowahawk

104 krisstingle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:37:49pm

I really can' understand how Obama's approval rating is still at 60%

105 screaming_eagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:37:50pm

re: #90 Walter L. Newton

If he is pulling rabbits out of his butt already then the bloom is definitly dying.

106 Kragar  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:38:05pm

re: #51 ArchangelMichael

They want to bring back the Coronado Bridge toll? Under what horse-shit justification?

They need the money

107 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:38:29pm

re: #99 Killian Bundy

Santelli's Chicago Tea Party

A must see TV rebellion.

/Rick Santelli is the most sane person in America

awsome insult...BO has to reeling

108 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:38:40pm

re: #100 pat

It really goes to show how a theory, AGW, can take precedence over ones lying eyes and goes a long way to show that liberals may be marginally mentally ill.

Were you on the last thread?

LOL!

Just kidding.

109 itellu3times  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:38:50pm

re: #25 taxfreekiller

There will be no real justice in America until the A.C.L.U. is dismantled.

US out of the ACLU!

110 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:38:51pm

Yikes....this is beyond parody.

111 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:39:01pm

re: #104 krisstingle

I really can' understand how Obama's approval rating is still at 60%

Jim Jones' approval rating by his followers was high right up until the final moment.

112 Last Mohican  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:39:09pm

re: #88 Kosh's Shadow

One bomb. But is it enriched to weapons grade?
Imagine the difficult decision Ahmadinejad needs to make - does he use his one bomb on the Great Satan or the Little Satan?

Well,

UN officials emphasise that in order to produce fissile material Iran would have to reconfigure its Natanz plant to produce high enriched uranium rather than low enriched uranium – a highly visible step that would take months – or to shift its stockpile to another clandestine site.

No such sites have been proved to exist, although for decades Iran hid evidence of its nuclear programme.

Nevertheless, if Obama is going to continue his "keep surrendering until their fist unclenches" foreign policy, then I'm going to propose a new job-creating stimulus project for him: building a huge array of five-hundred-foot-high fans in Northern New Jersey, pointed east. So that they can blow all of the nuclear fallout from New York out to sea and away from the rest of the country.

113 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:39:34pm

re: #91 FurryOldGuyJeans

There ARE people listening, just not enough.



It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.

Samuel Adams

114 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:40:17pm

re: #113 jcm


It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.

Samuel Adams

heh...nice, thanks for that

115 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:40:24pm

re: #113 jcm


It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.

Samuel Adams

He certainly was an agitator, wasn't he.

116 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:40:30pm

re: #96 debutaunt

All yer sayin' is give cardigans a chance?

In the spirit of Obama, I say give everyone a chance, black, whites, Native-Americans, cardigans...

117 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:41:10pm

re: #111 FurryOldGuyJeans

Jim Jones' approval rating by his followers was high right up until the final moment.

And he was promising to nourish them to the end.

118 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:41:13pm

re: #115 FurryOldGuyJeans

He certainly was an agitator, wasn't he.

And Sam made some good beer, too.
/

119 itellu3times  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:41:30pm

re: #69 Last Mohican

UN: Iran holds enough uranium for bomb

Hold it between their knees!

/Jack Nicholson, in Five Easy Pieces

120 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:41:50pm

Slightly OT:
Any thoughts on the Mossberg 590? I think I might need one in the near future.

121 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:42:25pm

re: #92 gmsc

And if you keep doing this, the 0bamic Civilian Security Force will take you to their re-education camps.

They're coming to take me away...

122 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:42:29pm

re: #88 Kosh's Shadow

One bomb. But is it enriched to weapons grade?
Imagine the difficult decision Ahmadinejad needs to make - does he use his one bomb on the Great Satan or the Little Satan?

Well, the little one is much more likely to react "disproportionally"... but 1 bomb is like 1 bullet. It is only a deterrent till you use it.

123 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:43:13pm

re: #120 Amer-I-Can

Slightly OT:
Any thoughts on the Mossberg 590? I think I might need one in the near future.

ooowheeee!...nice piece...18" pump in tactical....you will rock

124 KenJen  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:43:19pm

Part of the renovation to the Carter Library includes a museum that "highlights the progress being made on the historic campaign to eradicate the Guinea worm." Sounds exciting.

125 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:43:21pm

re: #115 FurryOldGuyJeans

He certainly was an agitator, wasn't he.

He was, and a pretty good beer bears his name!
Beer and agitation!

126 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:43:25pm

Jimmy, quick, it's the rabbit! Run!

Kill the wabbit!

127 Shug  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:43:30pm

re: #123 albusteve

ooowheeee!...nice piece...18" pump in tactical....you will rock

I thought it was a Belgian beer

128 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:43:37pm

Maybe I can start up a little cottage industry selling official campaign looking 0bama t-shirts with the Che-like imagery of him. And at the bottom ot would say something like 'Buyer's Rem0rse', 'D0uchebag' or 'H0neym00n's 0ver' with the official-looking stylized '0'...

129 gearhead  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:43:51pm

In late breaking news, Carter's PC was compromised and the following form letter was found:

ATLANTA (AP) — Former President Jimmy Carter has voiced support for President Barack Obama’s plan to _____________________.

Carter says he has “full confidence” in Obama’s proposal and expects it will take about _____ months for the __________ to begin improving.

(NOT FOR PUBLICATION) Fee: $________

130 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:44:03pm

re: #116 Walter L. Newton

In the spirit of Obama, I say give everyone a chance, black, whites, Native-Americans, cardigans...

Coward.......
/;-P

131 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:44:03pm

re: #90 Walter L. Newton

I have talk to a few about that 13 dollars. They are convinced, even though they don't know squat about what is in the bill, that there is more money coming their way. They can't tell me when or why, but they are convinced that his whole campaign was based around putting something back in their pockets.

It's going to take more than a few weeks for these people to understand what's really happening. And by that point the magician will have pulled another rabbit out of his butt.

Just like that idiotic Rachel Madow on MSNBC with her "Bread Lines to Paychecks" meter when talking about the stimulus.

As if Paychecks fall from heaven when a bill is signed.

YOU HAVE TO EARN A PAYCHECK YOU NITWIT.

132 pat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:44:21pm

re: #120 Amer-I-Can

Reliable, cheap. A bit noisy action, and loose. 8 rounds is good. I prefer a Reminton 1100.

133 jaunte  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:44:51pm

re: #120 Amer-I-Can

Slightly OT:
Any thoughts on the Mossberg 590? I think I might need one in the near future.

Put an order in now, there's a long wait-list.

134 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:44:52pm

re: #122 brookly red

Well, the little one is much more likely to react "disproportionally"... but 1 bomb is like 1 bullet. It is only a deterrent till you use it.

Which means Amadmanonjihad is more likely to threaten to use it against the US, because 0bama is MUCH more likely to back down and jawbone, whereas even Livni would retaliate, or possibly stage a pre-emptive strike if threatened.

135 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:45:01pm

re: #115 FurryOldGuyJeans

He certainly was an agitator, wasn't he.

Yes, but it was his cousin who managed to get us independent of Britian.

136 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:45:14pm

re: #123 albusteve

ooowheeee!...nice piece...18" pump in tactical....you will rock

Very nice indeed. Get the one with the 7 round magazine and heat shield. Very nice and very smooth action. Only drawback is if you want a pistol grip, it's hard to thumb the ejector switch. Other than that it is a very nice firearm.

137 HelloDare  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:45:33pm
138 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:46:01pm

it doesn't appear that jimmy carter has ever gotten anything right.
not when he was potus and certainly not afterwards.
he is a maniacal leftist weirdo who has such hatred for his country that even if he felt the pork bill would harm america, he would be for it.
look how he aided and abetted the heart breaking demise of zimbabwe.
his endorsement truly is the kiss of death.

139 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:46:01pm

re: #127 Shug

I thought it was a Belgian beer

shotguns and beer go together really well dude....

140 gearhead  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:46:14pm

re: #137 HelloDare

Remember when we thought Billy was the dumb Carter brother.

The man had his own brand of beer. He deserves respect.

141 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:46:23pm

re: #134 Kosh's Shadow

Which means Amadmanonjihad is more likely to threaten to use it against the US, because 0bama is MUCH more likely to back down and jawbone, whereas even Livni would retaliate, or possibly stage a pre-emptive strike if threatened.

basically

142 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:46:26pm

re: #120 Amer-I-Can

Slightly OT:
Any thoughts on the Mossberg 590? I think I might need one in the near future.

See mine at #136--I like mine.

143 the1sgjohns  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:46:27pm

re: #137 HelloDare

Yikes

144 Zimriel  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:46:33pm

How did this guy get elected in the first place? Was the entire electorate on drugs in the mid 1970s?

Wait, don't answer that.

145 Empire1  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:46:42pm

Carter thinks it's good? Drat, maybe I'd better put a garden in this year after all. I'd been planning to take the year off, after my stroke last summer, but I remember his inflation, and Obamaflation's going to be even worse ...

146 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:46:46pm

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

... that the worm is waking up & starting to turn.


... and he's given them the bird.

Well done. Whether it was conscious or not.

147 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:46:49pm

Mu.

Ga.

Be.

148 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:47:14pm

The Obama puppeteers will not accost the Constitution nor its amendments directly. They will attached from the side, like making you insure your gun with a $1M liability insurance policy, if you can find an insurer. Now that is scary because I can see it happening very easily.

149 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:47:24pm

re: #144 Zimriel

How did this guy get elected in the first place? Was the entire electorate on drugs in the mid 1970s?

Wait, don't answer that.

Nixon/Agnew/Ford

150 itellu3times  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:47:25pm

re: #124 KenJen

Part of the renovation to the Carter Library includes a museum that "highlights the progress being made on the historic campaign to eradicate the Guinea worm." Sounds exciting.

Google it. About time, really. Not sure what Jimmah has to do with it, he's almost worse than they are.

151 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:47:53pm

re: #139 albusteve

shotguns and beer go together really well dude....

Shotguns... THEN Beer go really well......

152 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:47:54pm

re: #132 pat

Reliable, cheap. A bit noisy action, and loose. 8 rounds is good. I prefer a Reminton 1100.

That's exactly what I am looking for... Reliable, cheap and noisy... kinda like the cars I drive and the woman I... nevermind... if she catches me the gig is up...

You have to admit that a noisy slide in a dark room might just be all the deterrence I need...

153 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:47:58pm

So..When do the gas lines begin? I need to get a head start..

154 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:48:09pm

re: #136 calcajun

Very nice indeed. Get the one with the 7 round magazine and heat shield. Very nice and very smooth action. Only drawback is if you want a pistol grip, it's hard to thumb the ejector switch. Other than that it is a very nice firearm.

I have a Stoeger P350 with a pistol grip...I have to use my index finger for the switch...doesnt bother me at all...point taken tho

155 Tatterdemalian  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:48:16pm

"If there’s anyone still alive with a worse record on addressing economic problems, I don’t know who it would be."

Robert Mugabe?

156 the1sgjohns  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:48:38pm

re: #145 Empire1

Several books out there on how to garden on your plot of land (urban plots of about 8k square feet. I was surprised at how much produce you could grow on such a small yard area.

157 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:49:12pm

re: #133 jaunte

Put an order in now, there's a long wait-list.

No, no, guns are not the answer, make love, not holes!
/s

158 FightingBack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:49:21pm

re: #138 nyc redneck

Remember his high status in the Islamic world. That should tell us something.

159 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:49:44pm

re: #151 jcm

Shotguns... THEN Beer go really well......

yeah...somebody has to say it

160 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:49:50pm
161 Wishing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:49:56pm

re: #136 calcajun

Very nice indeed. Get the one with the 7 round magazine and heat shield. Very nice and very smooth action. Only drawback is if you want a pistol grip, it's hard to thumb the ejector switch. Other than that it is a very nice firearm.

We have the 20 gauge..very nice!

162 HelloDare  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:49:57pm

Venezuela's Voters Have Spoken
Hugo Chávez won fair and square.

by JIMMY CARTER

I would like to respond to Mary O'Grady's recent column about the Carter Center's role in the Venezuela recall referendum.

The Carter Center has monitored more than 50 troubled democratic elections, all of them either highly contentious or a nation's first experience with democracy. We are familiar with potential fraudulent techniques and how to obtain a close approximation to the actual results to assure accuracy.

One of our prerequisites for involvement is to be invited by all major political parties and by the central election commission, so it is necessary for us to remain absolutely neutral. These criteria obviously apply to Venezuela.

Observers Rush to Judgment
Jimmy Carter gets rolled--first by Fidel Castro, now by Hugo Chávez.

by MARY ANASTASIA O'GRADY
Saturday, August 21, 2004 12:01 A.M. EDT

When Jimmy Carter went to Cuba in 2002, Fidel Castro reveled in the photo-ops with a former U.S. president. Mr. Carter seemed to think he was heroically "engaging" the Cuban despot. But in the documentary "Dissident," celluloid captures something most Americans didn't see: Castro giggling sardonically as Mr. Carter lectures the Cuban politburo on democracy. That foreshadowed what happened when the media splash ended and the former president went home: Dissidents he went to "help" today languish in gulag punishment cells.

I was reminded this week of how Castro so artfully used Mr. Carter when Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez took a page from his Cuban mentor's playbook. On Monday, the Carter Center along with the head of the monumentally meaningless Organization of American States, Cesar Gaviria, endorsed Chávez's claims of victory in the Venezuelan recall referendum, rather too hastily it now seems.

The problem was that the "observers" hadn't actually observed the election results. Messrs. Carter and Gaviria were only allowed to make a "quick count"--that is, look at the tally sheets spat out by a sample of voting machines. They were not allowed to check this against ballots the machines issued to voters as confirmation that their votes were properly registered.

If there was fraud, as many Venezuelans now suspect, it could have been discovered if the ballots didn't match the computer tallies. The tallies alone were meaningless. The problem was clear by Tuesday but it didn't stop the State Department spokesman Adam Ereli from chiming in. "The people of Venezuela have spoken," he proclaimed.

163 Zimriel  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:50:00pm

re: #115 FurryOldGuyJeans

[Samuel Adams] certainly was an agitator, wasn't he.

Yeah, he was a bad man. I get the impression from watching the John Adams series that if I'd been in Boston while he was ranting away, I'd have become a Tory.

The Revolution was worth supporting in spite of men like him.

164 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:50:04pm
165 itellu3times  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:50:08pm

re: #156 the1sgjohns

Several books out there on how to garden on your plot of land (urban plots of about 8k square feet. I was surprised at how much produce you could grow on such a small yard area.

WIth sufficient care, weather, and lack of predators, a lot.

166 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:50:37pm

Can't somebody tell him there's houses need to built on Mars and get him into a rocket?

How about we put a trail of peanuts up to a ramp into the shuttle?

HEY! It works on TV!

167 the1sgjohns  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:50:43pm

re: #160 Kosh's Shadow

GO FOR IT KIM, I am sure SOS Hillary will save us like Commander Taggert of Galaxy Quest.

168 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:51:17pm

re: #152 Amer-I-Can

That's exactly what I am looking for... Reliable, cheap and noisy... kinda like the cars I drive and the woman I... nevermind... if she catches me the gig is up...

You have to admit that a noisy slide in a dark room might just be all the deterrence I need...

I'd rather give up the extra rounds for a shorter barrel myself...a new Stoeger is around 350 or less

169 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:51:21pm

Oh, praise Allah!

I was worried a mite, but now, with this ringing endorsement from such a proven economic genius my mind is completely at ease.

Six months you say? Why, that's nothing. I can do six months standing on my head. As a matter of fact, I think I'll start right now.

That way, they can kiss my a** without having to bend over.

170 Mirage  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:51:22pm

re: #60 KenJen

JImmy Carter-potato farmer head.

Fixed

171 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:51:30pm

re: #160 Kosh's Shadow

Meanwhile, in another country, Kim Jong Il responds to the message about unclenching his fist:
North Korea stepped up its war rhetoric Thursday, saying its troops are "fully ready" for war with South Korea just hours before a visit to Seoul by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Be prepared for another "Snipers at airport" incident involving Hillary Clinton

172 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:51:58pm

Hehehehe!

A Liberal getting mugged.

At the checkout aisle, I chatted with the manager for a few minutes and turned for the exit. That's when a short man -- a blur in dark clothing -- cycloned inside. He wore a gray hoodie, gloves and had a black mask across his face. He said nothing at first -- and didn't have to. The object in his right hand, raised slightly in my direction, said it all. "Gun!" I yelled.

Jameison has been a leading voice critical of the Police.

173 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:52:03pm
174 x-wing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:52:09pm

re: #153 HoosierHoops

So..When do the gas lines begin? I need to get a head start..

I really hope it doesn't come to that. I have to sit in a line at my local gas station 3 deep now, and they have about 15 pumps.

175 SFGoth  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:52:43pm

Thanks Jimmy! You finally did something right. Even Bush's endorsement isn't as good.

176 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:53:01pm

re: #172 jcm

Hehehehe!

A Liberal getting mugged.

Jameison has been a leading voice critical of the Police.

Just remember that he was a victim of the man. The Liberal should've applauded him for exercising his right to someone else's money.

177 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:53:50pm

re: #163 Zimriel

Yeah, he was a bad man. I get the impression from watching the John Adams series that if I'd been in Boston while he was ranting away, I'd have become a Tory.

The Revolution was worth supporting in spite of men like him.

Bad acts trashing good policy. That certainly doesn't sound like the subject of the last thread, does it?

178 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:54:16pm

re: #174 x-wing

I really hope it doesn't come to that. I have to sit in a line at my local gas station 3 deep now, and they have about 15 pumps.

re: #174 x-wing

I really hope it doesn't come to that. I have to sit in a line at my local gas station 3 deep now, and they have about 15 pumps.

Well, the price is below 35 dollars a barrel, and the price has gone up over the last few months.

And food keeps going up. Remember back in the fall they said food prices were going up BECAUSE of transportation cost.

Me thinks they are fucking with us.

179 UberInfidel67  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:54:42pm

re: #164 Iron Fist O and his Merry Band of Thugs are out to destroy this country for one reason. To remake America in his vision, he has to remove al vestiges of the old America. Tear it down and build it back up. Simple as that. Once he is done royally ass raping us, he will swoop in on gossamer wings and fix it all and all will be beholden to Him.

*GAG*

180 Empire1  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:54:59pm

re: #156 the1sgjohns

Several books out there on how to garden on your plot of land (urban plots of about 8k square feet. I was surprised at how much produce you could grow on such a small yard area.

I've got about 1500 square feet, more or less, and yes, I can get quite a bit out of it. Some things I can stockpile before hyperinflation sets in -- dry stuff like beans, rice, and flour, some canned things it's currently cheaper to buy than to grow -- but a garden is going to become very important soon, I'm afraid.

181 sngnsgt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:55:49pm

Damn, I really need to put gas in my truck but today's an odd day and I'm an even.

182 Ojoe  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:55:50pm
Carter says he has “full confidence” in Obama’s proposal and expects it will take about six months for the economy to begin improving.

I'll probably be getting food from the food bank if it takes that long.

How. Very. Sad. ™

183 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:55:59pm

re: #168 albusteve

I'd rather give up the extra rounds for a shorter barrel myself...a new Stoeger is around 350 or less

That's very good to know... I don't need a lot of extra rounds, 3-5 should be plenty for my intentions.

184 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:56:16pm

re: #179 UberInfidel67

O and his Merry Band of Thugs are out to destroy this country for one reason. To remake America in his vision, he has to remove al vestiges of the old America. Tear it down and build it back up. Simple as that. Once he is done royally ass raping us, he will swoop in on gossamer wings and fix it all and all will be beholden to Him.

*GAG*

IMHO, you got the second part wrong. He will tear it down and leave it a wrecked socialistic "paradise." Period. He will not be saving, at least not in the sense that a conservative would understand.

185 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:56:27pm

re: #164 Iron Fist

You get it, Iron. "We are sooooo fucked." Keep saying it. Maybe a few will hear it and prepare.

186 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:56:31pm

A few years from now we could be telling this old Soviet story, but about gas:

In the Soviet Union, a store learned it was getting a shipment of meat. The word went around, and before it even opened there was a line running around the block.
After a few hours, the store manager came out and said "We're not getting as much meat as we thought. No meat for Jews. All Jews go home."
There was some grumbling, and the Jews left.

A couple of hours later, the manager came out again. "We are getting even less meat. It is only for Party members. Party members can stay; all others go home."

More grumbling, and many people left.

Finally, just before closing, the manager came out to say "We're not getting any meat after all. Everyone go home."
Just then, one of the Jews who had been waiting earlier walked by. A Party member accosted him and said "You Jews get all the breaks."

187 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:56:34pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Well, the price is below 35 dollars a barrel, and the price has gone up over the last few months.

And food keeps going up. Remember back in the fall they said food prices were going up BECAUSE of transportation cost.

Me thinks they are fucking with us.

Not sure, Chavez's oil-subsidized country is in the shithole because oil is so cheap now.

188 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:57:01pm

re: #78 x-wing

Them some big shoes to fill, but Obama is growing nicely

Carter had his smile, O has the ears.

189 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:57:28pm

re: #183 Amer-I-Can

That's very good to know... I don't need a lot of extra rounds, 3-5 should be plenty for my intentions.

wtf is your intention?....if it's shooting people five rounds should be plenty....reload and start over

190 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:57:43pm

re: #174 x-wing

I really hope it doesn't come to that. I have to sit in a line at my local gas station 3 deep now, and they have about 15 pumps.

Really? What state, city?

191 the1sgjohns  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:57:58pm

re: #180 Empire1

I went with a CSA (Community Supported Agriculture) we bought a half share and it was alot. So we canned and pickled a few things. Wife grinds and bakes her own bread which we figured was about 50 cents a loaf after all said and done with, less labor cost of coarse. I was impressed how good it was to have real wheat bread. Yum Yum.

192 FightingBack  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:58:08pm

Gas could be purchased on certain days only, to handle the shortage. They'd put a sign on a car in line "Last car. No Gas after this" and the rest of the line would break away. I had a pass to buy on my off days, because I was medical personnel.

193 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:58:12pm

re: #151 jcm

Shotguns... THEN Beer go really well......

Where I come from, it was pretty normal to see guys with full gun racks in their pick-ups and driving with open containers. Sigh. Good times.

194 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:58:31pm

re: #176 Hengineer

Just remember that he was a victim of the man. The Liberal should've applauded him for exercising his right to someone else's money.

A few years back a guy held up a grocery store very close to the location of this incident. The perp in question took a shot at a store clerk who followed him out of the store. A few blocks later cops cop up with the perp. By this time the perp and shoved the gun in a pocket and was displaying a knife. He was surrounded by police in short order, refusing orders to drop the knife. When he lunged (well withing the 21ft circle) at an officer the officer fired a single round killing the perp.

Jameison was apoplectic at the excessive use of force. Especially since the perp was a know druggie and the cops should have been more sensitive and he was a minority (the same minority as Jameison).

195 the1sgjohns  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:59:10pm

re: #182 Ojoe

Don't forget the free cheese giveaway's. I was surprised by the fact (as a kid) why would you give cheese away for free? Hmm, now I know why.

196 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:59:14pm
197 gearhead  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:59:23pm

re: #176 Hengineer

Just remember that he was a victim of the man. The Liberal should've applauded him for exercising his right to someone else's money.

It's an allegory for the stimulus plan.

198 UberInfidel67  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 2:59:26pm

re: #184 Walter L. Newton
I probably should have put Fix it all" in quotation marks. Thanks for straightning me out. You get my gist?

199 abaleh  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:00:01pm

re: #173 Ben Hur

Jewish family flees Yemen in secret operation

Cleanse, Rinse, Repeat.

Those kids are so cute. I'm glad they have a new welcoming home.

200 x-wing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:00:06pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Well, the price is below 35 dollars a barrel, and the price has gone up over the last few months.

And food keeps going up. Remember back in the fall they said food prices were going up BECAUSE of transportation cost.

Me thinks they are fucking with us.


Me thinks you are right. I don't want to start sounding all moonbattish about the oil companies, but they're excuses are getting harder to believe.

201 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:00:31pm

re: #193 calcajun

Where I come from, it was pretty normal to see guys with full gun racks in their pick-ups and driving with open containers. Sigh. Good times.

Throw the empties in the irrigation canal and blast away....
Good times.... it's a wonder many of us survived....

202 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:00:37pm

re: #189 albusteve

wtf is your intention?....if it's shooting people five rounds should be plenty....reload and start over

You see! NOW we get back to that whole "Shotguns and Beer" conversation... LOL

203 krisstingle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:00:50pm

re: #111 FurryOldGuyJeans

Jim Jones' approval rating by his followers was high right up until the final moment.

Thank you for that Furry,
Truer words were never spoken.

204 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:00:52pm
205 Zimriel  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:00:53pm

I see in the red headline from Drudge that Iran now has enough uranium for a bomb.

Any more good advice you have to provide for us, Jimmy?

206 Amer-I-Can  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:01:02pm

I'm out... catch you guys and gals later.

207 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:02:02pm

re: #187 Hengineer

Not sure, Chavez's oil-subsidized country is in the shithole because oil is so cheap now.

I'm not sure what you mean? Back in the fall, when the price per barrel was running up SO fast, anything prices that could be connected to the price of oil when skyrocketing up just as fast. It didn't take months or anything to "trickle" down, price wise. And then, around about the beginning of Dec. 2008, the price started to fall, fall, fall, and now it is below 35 dollars a barrel (I believe that's a futures buy).

Yet, the price of food, which flew up along with other items, is still going up, up, up. And I am not talking about a penny here and a penny there (and I'm not talking seasonal items). I talking about increases in the 25-35 percent range since Dec.

I'm basically poor (but ok right now), so, I pay very close attention to the "little" things. We are getting fucked.

208 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:02:38pm

re: #171 Hengineer

Be prepared for another "Snipers at airport" incident involving Hillary Clinton

She does that funny crouched-down zig-zaggy run across the tarmac.

209 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:03:25pm

re: #196 Iron Fist

I prefer a remington 870 or Winchester 1300. The Winchesters are no longer made, but you can pick up police trade-ins for a couple of hundred dollars at gun shows. It is a solid working gun, and good enough for most anything you want to do.

If you can go high-dollar, you can go with a Wilson Combat gun. I'm building my own right now, and have Wilson Combat ghost-ring sights on backorder. You could go that route if you know what you like. I'm doing a mossberg breacher barrel, extended mag, ghost-rings, ceracoat finish, and Houge stocks. I didn't save much over just buying the Wilson, but I got pretty much exactly what I want.

Any way you go, you'll beat Bennelli on price. Bennellis are good guns, but they are too high-dollar for my taste. A shotgun isn't a sniper rifle, and no amount of custom work is going to make it a sniper rifle.

My $0.02.


ahhhh...poetry

210 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:03:27pm

re: #204 Ben Hur

Argentina orders Holocaust-denying bishop out

Ironic?

What, is he gay too!

211 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:03:29pm

re: #205 Zimriel

I see in the red headline from Drudge that Iran now has enough uranium for a bomb.

Any more good advice you have to provide for us, Jimmy?

That is the UN reporting this, so Iran has had enough for quite some time.

Jimmy Carter advice: "Duck and Cover"

212 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:03:59pm
213 the1sgjohns  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:04:01pm

re: #211 FurryOldGuyJeans

That is the UN reporting this, so Iran has had enough for quite some time.

Jimmy Carter advice: "Duck and Cover"

and more than one

214 Mirage  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:04:14pm

re: #179 UberInfidel67

O and his Merry Band of Thugs are out to destroy this country for one reason. To remake America in his vision, he has to remove al vestiges of the old America. Tear it down and build it back up. Simple as that. Once he is done royally ass raping us, he will swoop in on gossamer wings and fix it all and all will be beholden to Him.

*GAG*

/Geek hat on
I have mental images of Palpatine taking over the Old Republic and establishing his Galactic Empire.
/Geek hat off

215 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:04:25pm

re: #87 joncelli

You know, there's just no way to mock this. It's automocking. Comedy is dead.

You start feeling like Cartman after seeing Ben Affleck's parents, whose faces are actually asses.

He just can't laugh anymore because he thinks he's seen the funniest thing in the world and he popped a "funny breaker" or burned a "funny fuse".

216 Golem Akbar  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:04:28pm

I go away for awhile (gotta work, you know), come back, read this article about Jimmy Carter, and then read all the comments. Man! There's nothing left to say. You guys said it all.

Jimmy Carter, the gift to the right, that keeps on giving.
He should run the Democratic Party. If he did, Republicans would never lose again.

217 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:04:32pm

Carter I passes the torch to Carter II: Electric Boogaloo.

We are all so screwed, but not as badly as our (traditional) allies I fear.

218 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:04:43pm

re: #211 FurryOldGuyJeans

That is the UN reporting this, so Iran has had enough for quite some time.

Jimmy Carter advice: "Duck and Cover"

Ahhhh, the good old days.

219 Fighton03  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:05:15pm

re: #115 FurryOldGuyJeans

He certainly was an agitator, wasn't he.

and a brewer and a patriot....lol

220 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:05:20pm

re: #207 Walter L. Newton

I'm not sure what you mean? Back in the fall, when the price per barrel was running up SO fast, anything prices that could be connected to the price of oil when skyrocketing up just as fast. It didn't take months or anything to "trickle" down, price wise. And then, around about the beginning of Dec. 2008, the price started to fall, fall, fall, and now it is below 35 dollars a barrel (I believe that's a futures buy).

Yet, the price of food, which flew up along with other items, is still going up, up, up. And I am not talking about a penny here and a penny there (and I'm not talking seasonal items). I talking about increases in the 25-35 percent range since Dec.

I'm basically poor (but ok right now), so, I pay very close attention to the "little" things. We are getting fucked.

yes we are....food is skyrocketing in ABQ which is already on the high side because of it's location...people are starting to grumble out loud at the market I use

221 MJBrutus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:05:29pm

Yes, yes, of course he does. I do hope that nobody's surprised.

222 Pyroskank  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:05:37pm

In related news, the ghost of Neville Chamberlain visited President Barry to tell him what a smash-up job he was doing at foreign relations and national security.

223 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:05:39pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

?

224 winston06  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:05:43pm

Of course he would support it. This s his 2nd term.

I can't stand Jimmah Carter and his hateful stance towards Israel.

225 Gearhead  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:05:59pm

re: #205 Zimriel

I see in the red headline from Drudge that Iran now has enough uranium for a bomb.

Any more good advice you have to provide for us, Jimmy?

I sense a forthcoming disturbance in the force...

226 Mirage  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:06:36pm

re: #225 Gearhead

I sense a forthcoming disturbance in the force...

Not forthcoming, the disturbance is already here.

227 midwestgak  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:06:39pm

re: #148 midwestgak

The Obama puppeteers will not accost the Constitution nor its amendments directly. They will attached from the side, like making you insure your gun with a $1M liability insurance policy, if you can find an insurer. Now that is scary because I can see it happening very easily.

PIMF

228 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:07:00pm

re: #211 FurryOldGuyJeans

That is the UN reporting this, so Iran has had enough for quite some time. Jimmy Carter advice: "Duck and Cover"

Gosh, the whole of Drudge's page looks like a "who's been fucking the ordinary American" site today. Iran, banks, financial wizards, off-shore money, hell, I feel left out.

Why don't I have some scam going on. I certainly could use a few extra cases of Campbell's Chicken Noodle Soup or something.

229 Empire1  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:07:09pm

re: #191 the1sgjohns

I'm not familiar with CSAs ... are you in a city or something? But I'm like your wife -- I can grind my own flour, cornmeal, and meat if I have to. Also have a dehydrator for stuff that dries well. Canning, yes, that's a given -- I plan to start doing a bunch of stews as meats go on sale.

When (or if) it gets really bad, we live on a farm, and if the deer start going after crops, I'm sure the owner/neighbor/landlord will want help protecting his crops. That'll be a good addition to the protein supply.

230 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:07:19pm

re: #202 Amer-I-Can

You see! NOW we get back to that whole "Shotguns and Beer" conversation... LOL

Yeah, but that's 5 2.75" rounds. With the 7 round mag I can shoot the same # of 3" rounds. Big boom. Walls? No problem. Why shoot the door off the hinges and waste two rounds when you can shoot through the door.

231 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:07:52pm

Support the one political group that HAS and DOES fight the left!

No! Not the Republicans; THE NRA.

Just got a survey to fill out asking my responses to certain people (including Himself) have voiced in the Obama White House. (spit) sorry had to clear my throat after that).

It's a scary read. Even scarier if they begin/have begun drawing up laws to pass what some have voiced.

232 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:07:53pm

re: #207 Walter L. Newton

I saw something a couple months ago about this very subject. It's the middle man that doesn't lower his cost after a rise in prices..they set rates that always go up..It's not always the stores..After-all..they only make a 1% profit.
But then that's all i remember..It was the Today show and I was eating eggs..
/I could live on eggs and OJ and coffee...

233 LionofDixon  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:08:02pm

Jimmy Carter is about as relevant to current events as Playboy is relevant to Barney Frank.

I mean is this really news? Its about as shocking as a 1936 headline that screams "Hitler endorses National Socialism!"

234 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:08:15pm

re: #204 Ben Hur

Argentina orders Holocaust-denying bishop out

Ironic?

IN the words of Groucho Marx, "Well, you go Uruguay and I'll go mine."

235 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:08:27pm

re: #207 Walter L. Newton

We don't buy as many groceries as some do, because the barter system keeps us in eggs, some beef, turkey, and during the summer and fall months 'bout near all the produce that we eat.

But the wife (she won't let me shop for food, she claims that I'm too cheap. I'm not cheap, I'm thrifty) has been wifeing for a couple of years that the cost of foodstuffs is going up way more than stated inflation.

We've helped some by buying flour, sugar, cooking oil, rice, beans and the like in bulk quantities. But storage is an issue.

236 Gearhead  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:08:29pm

re: #226 Mirage

Not forthcoming, the disturbance is already here.

True.

237 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:08:49pm
238 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:08:58pm

re: #233 LionofDixon

Jimmy Carter is about as relevant to current events as Playboy is relevant to Barney Frank.

I mean is this really news? Its about as shocking as a 1936 headline that screams "Hitler endorses National Socialism!"

What? You mean Barney reads it for the articles?

239 sngnsgt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:09:00pm

re: #192 FightingBack

Gas could be purchased on certain days only, to handle the shortage. They'd put a sign on a car in line "Last car. No Gas after this" and the rest of the line would break away. I had a pass to buy on my off days, because I was medical personnel.

Jimmah Catah had a gas line plan.

240 MrMisanthrope  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:09:29pm

re: #20 Bill Amos

"Its the Jews fault"/Jimmah Carter

Speaking of Jews... Anybody heard this bit yet? It's WONDERFUL "truth in advertising...

STIMULUS - Because all economies have Performance Issues... (mp3)

(FWIW, the "Jewish" link comes only from the fact that the Sound Engineer that made it was working with Zelman of the JPFO on another project at the time...)

241 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:09:30pm

re: #223 Ben Hur

?

Never mind, I was playing around with the your wording of the "link"

"Argentina orders Holocaust-denying bishop out"

Out, as in "outed." (Note to self... If you have to explain it, it's not funny).

242 Killian Bundy  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:09:49pm

re: #107 albusteve

awsome insult...BO has to reeling

/NRO Talks to CNBC's Rick Santelli

243 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:09:53pm

re: #235 razorbacker

We don't buy as many groceries as some do, because the barter system keeps us in eggs, some beef, turkey, and during the summer and fall months 'bout near all the produce that we eat.

But the wife (she won't let me shop for food, she claims that I'm too cheap. I'm not cheap, I'm thrifty) has been wifeing for a couple of years that the cost of foodstuffs is going up way more than stated inflation.

We've helped some by buying flour, sugar, cooking oil, rice, beans and the like in bulk quantities. But storage is an issue.

Another beef I have with Iowa...

Farm Subsidies must go, Forced subsidization of Corn based ethanol must go.

244 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:10:31pm

Fed Drug Agents Nab 'The Wrestler' Actor In NY

It appears to be a case of life imitating art: the actor who played a steroid dealer in the film, "The Wrestler" was busted in real life for allegedly distributing steroids.

In the hit critically-acclaimed film starring Mickey Rourke, Scott Siegel plays a small, but crucial role as "Greg," a steroids pusher. Now Siegel is being charged for being just that in reality, after being nabbed by the Drug Enforcement Agency for distributing steroids.

245 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:10:42pm

re: #212 Iron Fist

Heh. A couple of guys tried to rob a fast food restaurant I was in once. It was amusing. They ran away. Fast and far away. I don't know if the people at the counter even got the chance to see dude's gun. I didn't hang around to try and explain mine to John Law.

Personally, I think almost everyone should have and carry a gun. There are people who shouldn't, of course. Thing is, they are the people most likely to break the law anyway.

If it hadn't been Queen Anne area of Seattle, which is the bluest of the blue. He might of run into someone carrying, bad guys are not completely stupid.

WA is really good on self defense. Perp walks in and flashes a gun, it's a gimme shoot. There won't be any charges.

Last year a case in Seattle a guy hears something at his back door he, grabs a rifle and investigates, the bad guys run off his property, but one turns and reaches under his coat. The guy with the rifle shoots and kills the perp. No charges.

246 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:10:56pm

Well, the DOW closed down, jobless claims are up, crude is creeping up slowly thanks to OPEC, and wholesale inflation is up. Essentially the market is reacting to Obama's failed policies. Since everything is going down the toilet that must be what motivated Carter to approve of His policies.

The EPA is about to rule on carbon dioxide which will have a huge negative impact on the economy. This will result in greater market loses. Food and fuel prices will climb regardless of any predicted market turn around. California is increasing taxes which will also have a ripple effect across the country if you consider their produce production, wine, etc. Other states will follow as Federal mandates increase exponentially.

Changes in unemployment rules will also increase the official unemployment roles. This includes rules that provide incentives to states for allowing people to collect UI after quiting "for compelling family reasons" as well as allowing UI for part-time workers.

Things aren't looking very good for our future so Jimmy Carter can only gladly approve.

247 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:11:10pm

re: #235 razorbacker

We don't buy as many groceries as some do, because the barter system keeps us in eggs, some beef, turkey, and during the summer and fall months 'bout near all the produce that we eat.

But the wife (she won't let me shop for food, she claims that I'm too cheap. I'm not cheap, I'm thrifty) has been wifeing for a couple of years that the cost of foodstuffs is going up way more than stated inflation.

We've helped some by buying flour, sugar, cooking oil, rice, beans and the like in bulk quantities. But storage is an issue.

time for a homemade root cellar

248 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:11:16pm

re: #241 Walter L. Newton
sympathy upding.

249 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:11:42pm

re: #232 HoosierHoops

re: #235 razorbacker

re: #229 Empire1

... and we are still getting fucked.

250 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:11:44pm

re: #222 Pyroskank

In related news, the ghost of Neville Chamberlain visited President Barry to tell him what a smash-up job he was doing at foreign relations and national security.

I hope the ghost of future foreign relations is played by the Gipper.

251 Ojoe  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:11:56pm

re: #237 FurryOldGuyJeans

You know it is one thing to make such statements during a political campaign, but this guy is IN OFFICE.

Out with him.

There was a thread about that yesterday.

252 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:11:58pm

re: #243 Hengineer

Another beef I have with Iowa...

Farm Subsidies must go, Forced subsidization of Corn based ethanol must go.

If Iowa were no longer allowed to hold the earliest caucus, politicians wouldn't feel the need to pander to the ethanol lobby. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to burn food for fuel is an idiot (or a corn farmer).

253 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:12:05pm

re: #43 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So not only do I learn I'm getting a 5% pay cut, now I learn they want to put a toll back on the bridge I need to cross to get back to work, even though they only had a toll to cover the bridge bonds on those were paid off in 2002

Sucks to be you.
I live in CA, sucks to be me.
We all live in Obama's USA, sucks to be us.

254 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:12:12pm

re: #244 NJDhockeyfan

Fed Drug Agents Nab 'The Wrestler' Actor In NY


Now THAT'S typecasting!

255 HelloDare  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:12:15pm

re: #244 NJDhockeyfan

Fed Drug Agents Nab 'The Wrestler' Actor In NY

Now if somebody will just arrest Michael Moore for peddling nonsense.

256 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:12:33pm

re: #243 Hengineer

Another beef I have with Iowa...

Farm Subsidies must go, Forced subsidization of Corn based ethanol must go.

Fuel made from food - brilliant. Next is a plan to use ice cream to power desert-mills and will power small villages for brief periods of time, occasionally.

257 screaming_eagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:12:45pm

re: #243 Hengineer

Another beef I have with Iowa...

Farm Subsidies must go, Forced subsidization of Corn based ethanol must go.


Corn based ethanol must go period.

258 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:13:11pm

re: #246 Gus 802

Why is there a airplane coming out of the engine compartment of the car in your avatar?

259 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:13:35pm

re: #242 Killian Bundy

/NRO Talks to CNBC's Rick Santelli

"force fed via the govt"....spit

260 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:13:53pm

re: #258 Walter L. Newton

Why is there a airplane coming out of the engine compartment of the car in your avatar?

It's behind the car actually.

261 the1sgjohns  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:14:00pm


Palin to Pay Taxes on Per Diem Income

Speaking of money I found this interesting. If the Senators and Governors can't pay their taxes and make sense of it, its time to revise it with a flat tax. I sent this to my State Senators. Haven't heard a word yet.

I also heard the IRS is just making up interpertations and just waiting to see if the people balk or not. Several friends got audited and turns out the "Agents" were just estimating what they thought was the appropriate tax. They folded once the attorney pointed out their error.

262 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:14:04pm
263 opnion  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:14:31pm

re: #237 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oh geez:

Holder: US is nation of cowards on racial matters

And the cowards elected an African American president & suffer White guilt, while providing Billions upon Billions of dollars in Public Assistance for the last fourty odd years.

264 Ojoe  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:14:45pm

re: #258 Walter L. Newton

They are both mustangs.

265 the1sgjohns  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:15:07pm

re: #229 Empire1

I live in the city, but about 4 miles out of town its all country, urban life creeping in but the economy has slowed that down now.

266 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:15:29pm

re: #254 jcw46

Now THAT'S typecasting!

There's another person that will make a small fortune out of being a jerk off.

I am asking, pleading, right now, today, from anyone who would like to contribute, I am asking you to suggest dumb ass things I could do to make my 15 minutes of fame and have a little nest egg.

Any suggestions?

267 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:15:48pm

re: #264 Ojoe

They are both mustangs.

question is; is gus802 a mustang?

268 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:15:53pm

re: #246 Gus 802

One bright spot in all the gloom:

New York Times Stock Now Costs Less Than Sunday Paper

269 screaming_eagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:16:18pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

There's another person that will make a small fortune out of being a jerk off.

I am asking, pleading, right now, today, from anyone who would like to contribute, I am asking you to suggest dumb ass things I could do to make my 15 minutes of fame and have a little nest egg.

Any suggestions?

Give birth to 8 babies.

270 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:16:19pm

re: #267 jcw46

question is; is gus802 a mustang?

No, I'm more like a 1961 Ford Falcon.

271 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:16:23pm

re: #260 Gus 802

It's behind the car actually.

Gus, I know that, it was sort of a funny comment and question. I was hoping you would run with it and lighten up the crap we are talking about.

Sorry. :)

272 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:16:34pm

re: #241 Walter L. Newton

Never mind, I was playing around with the your wording of the "link"

"Argentina orders Holocaust-denying bishop out"

Out, as in "outed." (Note to self... If you have to explain it, it's not funny).

Sh*t.

My bad.

It was good.

273 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:16:40pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

There's another person that will make a small fortune out of being a jerk off.

I am asking, pleading, right now, today, from anyone who would like to contribute, I am asking you to suggest dumb ass things I could do to make my 15 minutes of fame and have a little nest egg.

Any suggestions?

your doing fine on your own...keep up the good work!

274 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:16:56pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

There's another person that will make a small fortune out of being a jerk off.

I am asking, pleading, right now, today, from anyone who would like to contribute, I am asking you to suggest dumb ass things I could do to make my 15 minutes of fame and have a little nest egg.

Any suggestions?


None that wouldn't also land you in jail like that Yo-Yo. :>)

275 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:17:14pm

re: #268 FurryOldGuyJeans

One bright spot in all the gloom:

New York Times Stock Now Costs Less Than Sunday Paper

I saw that before. Amazing, soon to enter junk status all around.

276 the1sgjohns  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:18:02pm

re: #275 Gus 802

maybe they should give a free copy of the paper with every share.

277 zombie  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:18:19pm

Wow. Even the most trivial "throw-away" posts that I make on zomblog end up having some significance.

Last, time, I posted a photo of a "dogs for Obama" poster called "Bark for Barack," just for laughs. Turned out the poster was based on a famous Soviet propaganda poster and was widely linked and discussed during the election as evidence of the socialist Obama cult.

Well, it happened again. I just posted a thread called "The Graveyard of Zombietime Flops," thinking nothing about it is remarkable in any way, especially my lame Photoshop parody of Mearsheimer & Walt's book "The Israel Lobby" -- but it elicited a fascinating observation from commenter "gegenkritik" in which he notes that the German edition of "The Israel Lobby" is based on a Nazi-era book cover design! (You can see all the covers at the end of the post, in a new update.)

News is everywhere. And the MSM utterly fails to find it.

278 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:18:22pm

re: #36 fpxr

"Dolor Index"
I do appreciate that.

You wouldn't expect an arrogant bastard like Obama to use an ordinary word, would you?

279 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:18:22pm

re: #269 screaming_eagle

Give birth to 8 babies.

Maybe I should have been a little clearer. I would like suggestions about how I could have my 15 minutes of fame, but, they have to be suggestions that it would be possible for me to fulfill. The baby suggestion is not workable.

I live in a one bedroom apartment.

280 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:18:31pm

re: #271 Walter L. Newton

Gus, I know that, it was sort of a funny comment and question. I was hoping you would run with it and lighten up the crap we are talking about.

Sorry. :)

Oh. Yeah, they're both Mustangs. P-51 in the background. I took the photo at an air show last June. Really nice. They also had a B-17 and the F-16 and F-18 West Coast Demo Teams.

281 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:18:38pm

re: #270 Gus 802

No, I'm more like a 1961 Ford Falcon.

mustang: member of armed forces originally enlisted then became officer. Fairly rare and USUALLY good officers.

282 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:18:55pm
If Iowa were no longer allowed to hold the earliest caucus, politicians wouldn't feel the need to pander to the ethanol lobby. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to burn food for fuel is an idiot (or a corn farmer).

The thing is, even if the type of corn used for fuel is different than food corn (which it is), it is still not a good way to produce ethanol! Extreme water and land consuming process, then the energy put INTO the corn to turn it into ethanol (not to mention the Carbon Dioxide released into the atmosphere), then the fact that ethanol doesn't have as much energy per kilogram as does gasoline, counts for a losing proposition.

All it does is drive up costs of fuel and food at the same time.

There are much better methods of producing ethanol, such as beets or sugar cane. I read about prairie grass, even has a much more efficient output of ethanol than corn.

283 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:19:06pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Well, the price is below 35 dollars a barrel, and the price has gone up over the last few months.

And food keeps going up. Remember back in the fall they said food prices were going up BECAUSE of transportation cost.

Me thinks they are fucking with us.

Me thinks there is mucho collusion between Big Oil and the Federal government. Oil needs its revenue and Feds need their cut of the gas tax pie. If Bush was still in office, all you'd be hearing today is the MSM screaming about rising gas prices amidst falling oil prices. The silence on this issue today pretty much cements my suspicions.

284 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:19:11pm

re: #247 albusteve

time for a homemade root cellar

I wouldn't want to attempt to dig a gopher hole in this ground, but I have considered putting up another 10/10 storage shed and shelving it for foodstuffs.

285 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:19:23pm

re: #270 Gus 802

No, I'm more like a 1961 Ford Falcon.

HA! Dad had a '62. Until 1979. ;)

286 onslow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:19:28pm

Jimmy Carter is to economics as Jimmy Carter is to foreign policy.

287 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:19:34pm

re: #268 FurryOldGuyJeans

One bright spot in all the gloom:

New York Times Stock Now Costs Less Than Sunday Paper

But the share paper isn't as useful for puppy crates and bird cages; the volume in the Sunday paper makes it a better buy.
Except for the times, because those pages are already covered with shit.

288 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:19:34pm

re: #275 Gus 802

I saw that before. Amazing, soon to enter junk status all around.

Did you see this?

New York Times suspends dividend

It certainly is pouring at the NYT.

289 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:19:39pm

re: #276 the1sgjohns

maybe they should give a free copy of the paper with every share.

Print the share on Page 2!

290 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:19:42pm

re: #269 screaming_eagle

Give birth to 8 babies.


Give birth to 1 baby! the feminists would love it.

291 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:19:55pm

re: #268 FurryOldGuyJeans

One bright spot in all the gloom:

New York Times Stock Now Costs Less Than Sunday Paper

personally I think this is a huge story....ironic that very little is said about it?...hahaha

292 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:20:10pm

re: #276 the1sgjohns

maybe they should give a free copy of the paper with every share.

Cheaper to give away a share for every paper bought.

293 Racer X  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:20:42pm

re: #253 Russkilitlover

Sucks to be you.
I live in CA, sucks to be me.
We all live in Obama's USA, sucks to be us.

Did you hear the news? The California State Legislature voted to freeze their own salaries! Isn't that great!

/

294 screaming_eagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:20:55pm

re: #279 Walter L. Newton

Sorry, I wasn't thinking it through anyway. 8 babies is worth way more that 15 minutes.

295 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:20:56pm

re: #291 albusteve

personally I think this is a huge story....ironic that very little is said about it?...hahaha

Ironic because standard bird cage liner with grit is cheaper.

296 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:21:10pm

re: #288 FurryOldGuyJeans

Did you see this?

New York Times suspends dividend

It certainly is pouring at the NYT.

6 cents?! Wow. That's beyond the pale. Can't imagine what will happen to NYC with the coming executive bonus cuts. There's another thing to add to the Obama downturn.

297 zombie  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:21:24pm

Carter was afraid of swimming killer rabbits in 1979. And he's afraid of Hamas kid-show killer rabbits in 2009. Face it: He's just afraid of rabbits.

298 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:21:25pm

re: #293 Racer X

Did you hear the news? The California State Legislature voted to freeze their own salaries! Isn't that great!

/

Hell has frozen over?!?

299 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:21:56pm

Jimmy Carter, an aging whore, still looking for some kind of legacy that can distance him from the second worst economy of the 20th Century (my opinion) and the miserable handling of the Iranian collapse to the Mullahs and the Iran hostage situation for our troops and Embassy staff.

You can run Jimmy, but you can't hide from your legacy. It's yours.

300 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:03pm

Why I don't go back to NJ...

N.J. Town Facing Whopping 27% Property Tax Hike

Residents in one New Jersey town are outraged over a huge property tax increase. They said it's slap in the face during these tough economic times.

Angry residents in West New York packed a town meeting Thursday to protest a 27-percent tax hike.

301 Scion9  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:08pm

re: #262 ploome hineni

I love Vaclav Klaus. What is really sad about the EU, and a lot of more politically aware Europeans is that its not a democratic institution and was never meant to be. Europe is 'post-democracy', and they view it as progress, and many view it as a model desired for America.

302 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:11pm

re: #192 FightingBack

Gas could be purchased on certain days only, to handle the shortage. They'd put a sign on a car in line "Last car. No Gas after this" and the rest of the line would break away. I had a pass to buy on my off days, because I was medical personnel.

My mom still has her WWII ration cards. We might be needing those soon.

/only half kidding.

303 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:12pm

re: #285 OldLineTexan

HA! Dad had a '62. Until 1979. ;)

Wow. I had an aunt who had a 62 Falcon and got rid of it after 2 years, when she kept all her Chevys for 4.

304 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:24pm

re: #293 Racer X

Did you hear the news? The California State Legislature voted to freeze their own salaries! Isn't that great!

/


They knew the checks would bounce!

305 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:25pm

Jimmah. Jimmah. Jimmah.

306 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:36pm

Ok folks, I'm pimping for a few up dings. I know this is not my best material, but, it's the afternoon seniors show and I got to keep it clean.

Or do I need to get Vinnie out here to talk to you all?

307 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:47pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

There's another person that will make a small fortune out of being a jerk off.

I am asking, pleading, right now, today, from anyone who would like to contribute, I am asking you to suggest dumb ass things I could do to make my 15 minutes of fame and have a little nest egg.

Any suggestions?

Get pregnant with 8 babies....
/;-P

308 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:50pm

re: #297 zombie

Would that make him a rabbitist? Can we accuse him of rabbitism?

309 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:51pm

re: #284 razorbacker

I wouldn't want to attempt to dig a gopher hole in this ground, but I have considered putting up another 10/10 storage shed and shelving it for foodstuffs.

poor drainage?....you could make up for excessive Ak humidity by custom packaging I suppose

310 SFGoth  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:22:52pm

re: #281 jcw46

mustang: member of armed forces originally enlisted then became officer. Fairly rare and USUALLY good officers.

When I was a cadet at Airborne School, I cajoled as many good NCOs as I could into telling me what they liked and disliked in a platoon leader. When I became that signal platoon leader, I told my NCO's, "it's my platoon and I expect you to run it properly." They appreciated that. Sometime I'll tell my 3 Bears/Lieutenants story. It's funny.

311 bulwrk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:23:10pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

I don't know about fame but I'm thinking about just leaving the sprinklers in my backyard on until its a muddy mess then applying for some wetland restoration stimulus money.

312 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:23:20pm

re: #281 jcw46

mustang: member of armed forces originally enlisted then became officer. Fairly rare and USUALLY good officers.

In the civilian world of mariners/sailors, those people are called "Hawsepipers". They worked their way up the hawsepipe

hawsepipe = chute used for the anchor chain.

313 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:23:28pm

re: #279 Walter L. Newton

Maybe I should have been a little clearer. I would like suggestions about how I could have my 15 minutes of fame, but, they have to be suggestions that it would be possible for me to fulfill. The baby suggestion is not workable.

I live in a one bedroom apartment.

No one said anything about keeping them.//

314 SFGoth  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:23:28pm

re: #300 NJDhockeyfan

Why I don't go back to NJ...

N.J. Town Facing Whopping 27% Property Tax Hike

This is why we have Prop. 13 in CA

315 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:23:46pm

re: #297 zombie

Carter was afraid of swimming killer rabbits in 1979. And he's afraid of Hamas kid-show killer rabbits in 2009. Face it: He's just afraid of rabbits.

This calls for a Bugs Bunny cartoon.
Jimmy Cawtew saying "Be vewwy vewwy quiet. A wabbit is hunting me."

316 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:23:47pm

re: #308 Gus 802

Would that make him a rabbitist? Can we accuse him of rabbitism?


coneyist

317 opnion  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:23:49pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

There's another person that will make a small fortune out of being a jerk off.

I am asking, pleading, right now, today, from anyone who would like to contribute, I am asking you to suggest dumb ass things I could do to make my 15 minutes of fame and have a little nest egg.

Any suggestions?

Yeah, sit in a tree & keep ordering pizza deliveries. Tell the media that you are doing it to protest world hunger.
Bingo!, instant celeberty, an appearance on Oprah & a book deal.

318 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:23:58pm

re: #279 Walter L. Newton

Maybe I should have been a little clearer. I would like suggestions about how I could have my 15 minutes of fame, but, they have to be suggestions that it would be possible for me to fulfill. The baby suggestion is not workable.

I live in a one bedroom apartment.

You just see the downside to everything, Mr.!

319 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:24:07pm

re: #297 zombie

Carter was afraid of swimming killer rabbits in 1979. And he's afraid of Hamas kid-show killer rabbits in 2009. Face it: He's just afraid of rabbits.

He definitely took Monty Python way too serious.

320 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:24:24pm

re: #314 SFGoth

This is why we have Prop. 13 in CA

But for how much longer? Shudder.

321 SFGoth  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:24:33pm

re: #311 bulwrk

I don't know about fame but I'm thinking about just leaving the sprinklers in my backyard on until its a muddy mess then applying for some wetland restoration stimulus money.

Dude, do not even joke about that. Years ago some guy allowed his rural property to become a wetland and he lost complete control over it. I'd be careful about even taking a wiz out back.

322 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:24:34pm

re: #261 the1sgjohns


Palin to Pay Taxes on Per Diem Income

Speaking of money I found this interesting. If the Senators and Governors can't pay their taxes and make sense of it, its time to revise it with a flat tax. I sent this to my State Senators. Haven't heard a word yet.

I also heard the IRS is just making up interpertations and just waiting to see if the people balk or not. Several friends got audited and turns out the "Agents" were just estimating what they thought was the appropriate tax. They folded once the attorney pointed out their error.

I got a notice regarding some back taxes we owe. Their proposed monthly payment was more than our combined take-home pay (and that was before my husband got laid off). They just throw it against the wall and see what sticks.

323 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:24:42pm

re: #311 bulwrk

I don't know about fame but I'm thinking about just leaving the sprinklers in my backyard on until its a muddy mess then applying for some wetland restoration stimulus money.

That gives me an idea, I'll throw a salmon in my front yard and get endangered species money!

324 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:24:45pm

re: #303 Kosh's Shadow

Wow. I had an aunt who had a 62 Falcon and got rid of it after 2 years, when she kept all her Chevys for 4.

Dad is not exactly keen on change.

Right now in the garage beside my mother's Grandma-barge of a Mercury is my mother's previous car, a 1985 Oldsmobile something-or-other. It has been flooded and smells funny. Mom will not get in it, but he drives it.

325 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:24:51pm

re: #317 opnion

Yeah, sit in a tree & keep ordering pizza deliveries. Tell the media that you are doing it to protest world hunger.
Bingo!, instant celeberty, an appearance on Oprah & a book deal.

If you do it in the bay area, you get an apperance on Zombie Time

326 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:25:01pm

re: #298 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hell has frozen over?!?

The Denver Post printed a list of budget cuts suggested by our Democratic governor a few days ago. About 15-20 items on the list, including stuff that would cost seniors more more.

No cuts for the state legislator.

327 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:25:19pm

re: #295 Walter L. Newton

Ironic because standard bird cage liner with grit is cheaper.

now there is a great headline in there someplace

328 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:25:31pm

re: #300 NJDhockeyfan

Why I don't go back to NJ...

N.J. Town Facing Whopping 27% Property Tax Hike

There you go. Another perfect example of the government gone wild. The article says they expect to see an increase of $3000 this year. And NJ already has one of the highest property taxes in the country.

No problem, $3000 grows on trees. I'm sure it will be easy for most of the residents to come up with the extra dough.

Then there's Corzine. Corzine is one of Obama's buddies. I think he's another ex Goldman Sachs guy.

329 screaming_eagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:25:51pm

re: #282 Hengineer

The thing is, even if the type of corn used for fuel is different than food corn (which it is), it is still not a good way to produce ethanol! Extreme water and land consuming process, then the energy put INTO the corn to turn it into ethanol (not to mention the Carbon Dioxide released into the atmosphere), then the fact that ethanol doesn't have as much energy per kilogram as does gasoline, counts for a losing proposition.

All it does is drive up costs of fuel and food at the same time.

There are much better methods of producing ethanol, such as beets or sugar cane. I read about prairie grass, even has a much more efficient output of ethanol than corn.

The type of corn used for ethanol is NOT different than used in food. It is different than sweet corn. And cellulositic ethanol is not practical for production. It is much more expensive. Corn based ethanol runs up the cost of all fertilzer,herbiceds and etc. That's the most damning aspect.

330 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:26:07pm

re: #323 jcm

That gives me an idea, I'll throw a salmon in my front yard and get endangered species money!

Not funny. You won't be able to mow your lawn, let alone walk on it if the Endangered Species Act people find out. You might have to tear down your house even.

331 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:26:12pm

re: #303 Kosh's Shadow

Wow. I had an aunt who had a 62 Falcon and got rid of it after 2 years, when she kept all her Chevys for 4.

BTW, he's not insane. We had a 1976 Plymouth Volare station wagon for just under two years before he sold it.

What a piece of crap. The day he brought it home, I was in the back running the screws all the way into the plastic trim.

332 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:26:31pm

re: #311 bulwrk

I don't know about fame but I'm thinking about just leaving the sprinklers in my backyard on until its a muddy mess then applying for some wetland restoration stimulus money.

Up ding for sure.

333 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:27:20pm

re: #320 calcajun

But for how much longer? Shudder.

Howard Jarvis will be sorely missed.

334 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:27:38pm

re: #330 calcajun

Not funny. You won't be able to mow your lawn, let alone walk on it if the Endangered Species Act people find out. You might have to tear down your house even.

LOL!

Sea Tac airport added a 3rd runway. The cost of salmon mitigation ran about $1 million per fish.

335 zombie  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:27:49pm

re: #317 opnion

Yeah, sit in a tree & keep ordering pizza deliveries. Tell the media that you are doing it to protest world hunger.
Bingo!, instant celeberty, an appearance on Oprah & a book deal.

re: #325 Hengineer

If you do it in the bay area, you get an apperance on Zombie Time

You've got to get more specific: Here is in fact a photo of the tree-sitters hauling in their food order up into the trees.

336 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:27:53pm

re: #319 NonNativeTexan

He definitely took Monty Python way too serious.

But then he increased production of Holy Hand Grenades.
"Bless this, Thy holy hand grenade of Antioch, that with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy"
"...and the wabbit, being naughty in Thy sight, shall snuff it."

337 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:28:09pm

re: #334 jcm

LOL!

Sea Tac airport added a 3rd runway. The cost of salmon mitigation ran about $1 million per fish.

That's a lotta lox.

338 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:28:30pm

re: #329 screaming_eagle

The type of corn used for ethanol is NOT different than used in food. It is different than sweet corn. And cellulositic ethanol is not practical for production. It is much more expensive. Corn based ethanol runs up the cost of all fertilzer,herbiceds and etc. That's the most damning aspect.

My mistake, I did see an article outlining the different types of corn, I just misremembered (word for ya ;) ) parts of it. As to the cellulositic ethanol, I agree it is not practical for production yet its force fed into our gas tanks right now (what is it, 10% of gasoline now?).

There are better ways of producing ethanol that I'm on an internet connection too slow to really look it up and post (sorry :( ).

339 opnion  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:28:30pm

re: #325 Hengineer

If you do it in the bay area, you get an apperance on Zombie Time

Instant celeberty!

340 the1sgjohns  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:28:39pm

re: #334 jcm

Really does a creak run through the run way?

341 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:29:11pm

re: #339 opnion

Instant celeberty!

American Idol

342 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:29:12pm

re: #337 calcajun

That's a lotta lox.

*groan*

343 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:29:20pm

I have a suggestion for all Lizards who receive solicitation phone calls at home during the day.

I have taken to answering them and telling who ever I speak to, using my wonderful Jamaican accent, that Obama is going to give me a credit card, or lower interest rates, or free cable TV.

It's a hoot. And I keep it up as long as the caller wants to try to sell me.

344 Hengineer  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:29:44pm

re: #335 zombie

You've got to get more specific: Here is in fact a photo of the tree-sitters hauling in their food order up into the trees.

I know, that's what I was referring to :)

345 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:29:46pm

Didn't some old B-movie actor that used to live in these parts tell us that no one ever taxed and spent their way to prosperity? Seem to remember something like that.

346 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:30:17pm

re: #327 albusteve

now there is a great headline in there someplace

Is that newspaper from the back of the comic books still around? Sell GRIT!, I think the ad used to say.

347 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:30:46pm

re: #345 calcajun

Didn't some old B-movie actor that used to live in these parts tell us that no one ever taxed and spent their way to prosperity? Seem to remember something like that.

He could handle a chimp, too.

348 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:30:59pm

re: #342 pre-Boomer Marine brat

MWAH!

349 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:31:02pm

re: #343 Walter L. Newton

I have a suggestion for all Lizards who receive solicitation phone calls at home during the day.

I have taken to answering them and telling who ever I speak to, using my wonderful Jamaican accent, that Obama is going to give me a credit card, or lower interest rates, or free cable TV.

It's a hoot. And I keep it up as long as the caller wants to try to sell me.

I've thought of giving the phone to my dogs and then opening the door; that sets them barking and howling. Seven poodles (4 toys and 3 standards) can make a lot of noise.

350 NY Nana  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:31:13pm
351 opnion  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:31:16pm

re: #335 zombie

You've got to get more specific: Here is in fact a photo of the tree-sitters hauling in their food order up into the trees.

Their parents must be proud. See, I think that the hook for Walter would be eating to protest hunger. The media would be conviced that this is some kind of profound statement & the Walter is deep. He would be famous, or not.

352 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:31:19pm

re: #346 OldLineTexan

Is that newspaper from the back of the comic books still around? Sell GRIT!, I think the ad used to say.

ha I remember that!...wth was that all about anyway?

353 opnion  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:31:54pm

re: #341 albusteve

American Idol

A beautiful concept.

354 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:32:22pm

re: #337 calcajun

That's a lotta lox.


I'll have mine on a bagel with a little schmear please.

355 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:32:27pm

re: #349 Kosh's Shadow

I've thought of giving the phone to my dogs and then opening the door; that sets them barking and howling. Seven poodles (4 toys and 3 standards) can make a lot of noise.

So it's not just mine. I thought I was a bad owner. Maybe if I was that hawt British woman would come over and scold me ... decisions, decisions ...

356 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:32:35pm

re: #352 albusteve

ha I remember that!...wth was that all about anyway?


here it is....interesting Americana

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

357 opnion  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:33:25pm

re: #343 Walter L. Newton

I have a suggestion for all Lizards who receive solicitation phone calls at home during the day.

I have taken to answering them and telling who ever I speak to, using my wonderful Jamaican accent, that Obama is going to give me a credit card, or lower interest rates, or free cable TV.

It's a hoot. And I keep it up as long as the caller wants to try to sell me.

The last call like that, that I got, I asked the guy to loan me some money. Dead silence & then a click.

358 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:33:31pm

re: #352 albusteve

ha I remember that!...wth was that all about anyway?

I couldn't tell you, but my six-foot inflatable monster was a two-foot tall green printed balloon with cardboard feet!

/never feel for THAT again, LOL

359 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:33:33pm

re: #309 albusteve

poor drainage?....you could make up for excessive Ak humidity by custom packaging I suppose

Rock. Sitting on about a half-inch of soil and then rock.

360 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:34:30pm

re: #340 the1sgjohns

Really does a creak run through the run way?

Beside the airport, they had to move the creek over to fill in for the runway. It's a urban creek, but the mitigation plan included restoration etc....

Wet land creek just north of the left (3rd) runway under construction, now finished.

361 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:34:32pm

re: #343 Walter L. Newton

Now THAT'S frickin hilarious. Gonna have to work on my accent, Mon.

362 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:34:44pm

re: #346 OldLineTexan

Is that newspaper from the back of the comic books still around? Sell GRIT!, I think the ad used to say.

FSTV has a show called GRIT. It ain't the same.

363 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:35:01pm

Oh........ half inch ROCK.

364 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:35:04pm

re: #354 jcw46

I'll have mine on a bagel with a little schmear please.

On pumpernickle bites with creme fraiche a sprig of dill and caviar!

365 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:35:16pm

re: #359 razorbacker

Rock. Sitting on about a half-inch of soil and then rock.

rock is extremely difficult to work with a shovel ?!....a shed sounds smart

366 quickjustice  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:35:28pm

So the Obama Administration has enlisted the worst President of the Twentieth Century, Jimmy Carter, to support the "stimulus" legislation? Gosh, I'm old enough to remember Carter-- gasoline rationing, miles-long lines of cars waiting for gasoline, signs in gas stations reading "no gas", and stagflation.

Stagflation: economic stagnation and inflation at the same time. Looks like Obama is moving in the economic direction of Carter, if he hasn't already bypassed him!

367 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:35:32pm

re: #343 Walter L. Newton

I have a suggestion for all Lizards who receive solicitation phone calls at home during the day.

I have taken to answering them and telling who ever I speak to, using my wonderful Jamaican accent, that Obama is going to give me a credit card, or lower interest rates, or free cable TV.

It's a hoot. And I keep it up as long as the caller wants to try to sell me.


Hah! I've taken to putting a long rambling message intro; they usually hang up before it gets to the end. It also helps when screening calls cause it gives me time to get to the phone for the ID number. When I come home I see so many 800 number hangups it gives me a good laugh. Wish I'd done this long ago.

368 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:35:48pm

re: #364 Russkilitlover

On pumpernickle bites with creme fraiche a sprig of dill and caviar!

Oh boy are YOU gonna get taxed.

/

369 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:35:57pm

I was unaware of this until just now, but apparently a group of disaffected yoots have occupied a building at NYU in New York City.

"When we occupy spaces and liberate their use, we appropriate for ourselves the means of our very existence. We find each other here and now, in the midst of conflict and crisis, overturning every role we’re given, annulling every attempt to reconcile."


Their demands
Their web site

370 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:36:11pm

Speaking of moronic lefties, there is one at Kos who thinks LBJ resigned from office over the failure of his Vietnam policy:

"But by 1968 Johnson the whole thing was a failed cause, which is why he resigned from office, and didn't even try to run for reelection."

I also know a lefty who is convinced that LBJ was a Republican and who refuses to even look at evidence to the contrary.

Another new left-media meme is that we were not justified in going to war in 1941 because our territory was not attacked. I heard this one recently from a co-worker who is a complete media kool-aid drinker and therefore an accurate barometer of the trends in what passes for lefty thinking. When I pointed out that Hawaii was part of the US, he responded that it wasn't a state. Apparently they have raised the bar so high that an enemy must literally attack one of the states itself before we have cause to defend ourselves. Even that would not justify leftist opposition to the current war, since even lefties know that New York is a state, but they are endlessly resourceful in their efforts to conform to media culture and assist our enemies.

371 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:36:31pm

re: #348 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH!

LOL!

MWAH!

372 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:37:37pm

re: #360 jcm

It's amazing that they let them build it after all of this time.

So the cost per fish: does that include litigation and studies? Also not including environmental mitigation extras?

373 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:37:58pm

re: #371 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LOL!

MWAH!

I'm going to print that out and put it on my class room door!

374 BatGuano  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:38:01pm

re: #347 OldLineTexan

If we're thinking of the same washed-up B movie actor, he said something about Government being the problem, and mumbled something about doing a demo project on some wall.

375 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:38:07pm

re: #369 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I was unaware of this until just now, but apparently a group of disaffected yoots have occupied a building at NYU in New York City.


Their demands
Their web site

Tear gas.

376 Billy Hank  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:38:07pm

Recall Carter's endoresments of Chavez for an understanding of Mr. Peanut's point of reference.

377 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:38:35pm

re: #373 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm going to print that out and put it on my class room door!

Now WHY did I think you might like it?!?!?!

378 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:39:05pm

If I were The One, I would get a restraining order on Jimmy Carter. No coming within 250 feet of any Obama policty. Period.

379 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:39:08pm

re: #369 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I was unaware of this until just now, but apparently a group of disaffected yoots have occupied a building at NYU in New York City.


Their demands
Their web site

Nothing a little tear gas won't fix.

380 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:39:24pm

re: #370 Shiplord Kirel

If you really want to explode some heads, tell them that
JFK started Vietnam, LBJ escalated it , and Nixon ended it.

381 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:39:42pm

re: #375 OldLineTexan

Tear gas.

re: #379 jcm

Nothing a little tear gas won't fix.

GMTA!

382 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:39:43pm

Dow down 89.68............

Rainbow-Unicorn Economics!

Power to the Correct People!
(They know that lowering taxes, lowering capital gains tax and reduced government spending WILL turn a bad economy around!)
JFK / Reagan economics!

383 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:39:43pm

re: #379 jcm

GMTA.

384 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:40:06pm

re: #354 jcw46

I'll have mine on a bagel with a little schmear please.

Don't forget the tomato.

385 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:40:06pm

Ahhh....the white upper middle class.

What fun in college.

386 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:40:11pm

re: #366 quickjustice

Obama's "stimulus" package is represents more Federal spending in his first month of office than ANY of Carter's annual operating fiscal Budgets (for an individual year). Even Carter wasn't stupid (or conniving) enough to jam a huge bucket of pork down the taxpayer's throats during tough times...

387 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:40:25pm

re: #383 OldLineTexan

GMTA.

That tears it, OUT OF MY MIND!

388 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:40:28pm

re: #380 NonNativeTexan

If you really want to explode some heads, tell them that
JFK started Vietnam, LBJ escalated it , and Nixon ended it.

And if you REALLY want to get it right, tell them Truman started Viet Nam, etc.!

389 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:40:45pm

re: #387 jcm

That tears it, OUT OF MY MIND!

Tears gas?

390 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:40:47pm

re: #385 Ben Hur

Ahhh....the white upper middle class.

What fun in college.

You got it! Maybe they'll drop their "demands" if "mommy and daddy" raise their credit limit.

391 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:40:51pm

re: #369 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Amy Goodman (Goodwin?) was grinning on Democracy Now about those little darlings. They aren't too happy with the plight of the poor palistinians since those evile juice have roughed them up again.

392 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:40:54pm

re: #368 OldLineTexan

Oh boy are YOU gonna get taxed.

/

I'm cutting back on the champagne, though.

393 opnion  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:41:01pm

re: #380 NonNativeTexan

If you really want to explode some heads, tell them that
JFK started Vietnam, LBJ escalated it , and Nixon ended it.

Which is the literal truth.

394 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:41:28pm

re: #370 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of moronic lefties, there is one at Kos who thinks LBJ resigned from office over the failure of his Vietnam policy:

I also know a lefty who is convinced that LBJ was a Republican and who refuses to even look at evidence to the contrary.

Another new left-media meme is that we were not justified in going to war in 1941 because our territory was not attacked. I heard this one recently from a co-worker who is a complete media kool-aid drinker and therefore an accurate barometer of the trends in what passes for lefty thinking. When I pointed out that Hawaii was part of the US, he responded that it wasn't a state. Apparently they have raised the bar so high that an enemy must literally attack one of the states itself before we have cause to defend ourselves. Even that would not justify leftist opposition to the current war, since even lefties know that New York is a state, but they are endlessly resourceful in their efforts to conform to media culture and assist our enemies.

failed cause?...if the cause was to wipe out the VC and end the NVAs effectiveness for five years then it wasn't failed obviously

395 BatGuano  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:41:29pm

re: #373 goddessoftheclassroom

Yeah, just like Martin Luther nailing his 95 feces on the Wittenbergh church.
/

396 quickjustice  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:41:34pm

re: #369 Who Watches the Watchmen?

NYU is one of the largest property owners in NYC. They pay no taxes. They're enormously wealthy. They're extremely left-wing. These schools are a great argument for repealing the tax exempt status enjoyed by universities and foundations. Given that foundations founded by conservatives like the Ford family were long-ago subsumed by the left, they should be forced to spend their money and get out of business within twenty-five years instead of doing perpetual social damage through their left-wing agenda.

And yes. I support applying the same rules to right-wing foundations for the same reason.

397 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:41:40pm

re: #392 Russkilitlover

I'm cutting back on the champagne, though.

Good plan. Keep it on the D-L and all.

;)

398 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:41:42pm

re: #369 Who Watches the Watchmen?

disaffected yoots have occupied a building at NYU in New York City.

Yoot? What's a yoot?

(name that movie quote for 25 Ø's)

Ø = the new U.S. monetary symbol. (coincidently it's the value also).

399 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:42:08pm

re: #393 opnion

Which is the literal truth.

Add the French to the mix and you get a full story of liberals going to war!

400 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:42:21pm

re: #380 NonNativeTexan

If you really want to explode some heads, tell them that
JFK started Vietnam, LBJ escalated it , and Nixon ended it.

No. Nixon brought the troops home and ended the fighting. It was the Democrat Congress which doomed tens of thousands of Vietnamese refugees to re-education camps by not honoring this country's agreement to protect them.

401 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:42:26pm

re: #379 jcm

Nothing a little tear gas won't fix.

As you can tell by the video here, this crew is very intimidating.

402 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:42:27pm

re: #9 turn

What makes you think you will be allowed to drive so fast?


The latest immigrants from the Yemenite community of Raida - a town fraught with tension between its Jewish and Muslim residents in recent months - the Ben-Yisraels, accompanied by another young man from their community, arrived in a special aliya operation, shrouded in secrecy, organized by the Jewish Agency and Yemenite Jewish Federation of America.

As they stepped into the arrivals hall, the Ben-Yisraels looked as if they had walked through a time warp. "Thank God, I'm happy to be here," said family patriarch Said Ben-Yisrael, clad in a felt yarmulke and long black side curls as he stood in front of his wife and seven children.

Greeted by a Yemenite rabbi who lives in Israel, Ben-Yisrael recited the "Sheheheyanu" prayer, which is said upon arriving at a particularly festive or joyous occasion. The crowd of reporters and cameramen who swarmed around the family as they entered the arrival terminal answered "Amen!"

Things like this are why I am proud to be a Jew. This family was facing certain doom in Yemen; imagine being Jewish in friendly sunny Yemen, the Jewish Agency, the international non-profit that helps Jews all over the world, acted and got these people out. While I commend the government of Yemen for offering new homes to Jews who felt they could not continue to live in the villages that the remaining hundreds of Yemeni Jews live in, all I can add is my own: AMEN!

Amen that Jews stand together. Amen that the color of your skin or the perfection of your Jewish pedigree is less important than saving your life. Next to watching Neil Armstrong walk on the moon, and holding my sons for the first time, the next greatest moment of my life was picking up my New York Times and seeing that Israel had saved 30,000 lives in a day. They put over 1000 people on a 747, everyone had a number so no one got lost and, guarded by Zion's Army, each was brought safely to a new life. Five months later in Israel, I saw these distant cousins of mine at an absorption center in Israel.

Amen!

A year previously I had personally witnessed and greeted a planeload of Russian Jews the moment they got off the plane in Israel. Two hundred of my fellow American Jews and I gave them gifts and hugs of welcome. Soldiers with guns ready protected the plane and the welcome party.

Amen!

In the new age there are more welcoming parties to come. The Jews of Europe will flee the new dark ages before they are murdered by our other distant cousins committing Islamic Neo-colonialism on Europe.

When they arrive, I shall say Amen to that too.

403 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:42:31pm

re: #375 OldLineTexan

Tear gas.

12ga bean bags at 2000ft/sec

404 quickjustice  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:43:01pm

Trotting out Carter also suggests that the Democrats are getting desperate.

405 Mirage  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:43:05pm

re: #298 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hell has frozen over?!?

Nah, it would be frozen over if they voted to reduce their undeserved salaries. :)

406 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:43:15pm

re: #395 BatGuano

Yeah, just like Martin Luther nailing his 95 feces on the Wittenbergh church.
/

Wait a minnit. Wasn't he the guy that marched in Memphis with the garbage workers?

407 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:43:31pm

re: #389 OldLineTexan

Tears gas?

*POP*
*HISS*
*TOSS*

That should get rid of him!

*cough*
*hack*

408 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:43:39pm

re: #395 BatGuano

Yeah, just like Martin Luther nailing his 95 feces on the Wittenbergh church.
/

Watch it. That's a slippery subject.

409 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:43:58pm

re: #369 Who Watches the Watchmen?


"When we occupy spaces and liberate their use, we appropriate for ourselves the means of our very existence. We find each other here and now, in the midst of conflict and crisis, overturning every role we’re given, annulling every attempt to reconcile."

That is a masterpiece of gibberish. Let me translate: "We think we should be allowed to take things that don't belong to us, and if you try to stop us, we'll hold our breath until we turn blue."

410 NY Nana  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:44:02pm

re: #367 jcw46

Seriously, does your State have a 'Do Not Call' registry? It works like a charm.

We are on the NY State one, and also the National Registry (Federal Government).

411 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:44:07pm

re: #369 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I was unaware of this until just now, but apparently a group of disaffected yoots have occupied a building at NYU in New York City.


Their demands
Their web site

Oh, brother. I'd be LOLing if it wasn't so fucking disgusting.

412 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:44:12pm

re: #369 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I was unaware of this until just now, but apparently a group of disaffected yoots have occupied a building at NYU in New York City.


Their demands
Their web site

The school should expel every one of them and send them home to explain to daddy why they wasted his money.

413 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:44:21pm

OT-I noticed in an article on NRO yesterday that Rob Reiner and his Hollywood cronies were supposed to get some pretty sweet exemptions from taxes in the latest CA state budget "to protect the film industry".

I guess Rob just wants everyone ELSE to "spread the wealth" around...

414 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:44:29pm

re: #367 jcw46

Hah! I've taken to putting a long rambling message intro; they usually hang up before it gets to the end. It also helps when screening calls cause it gives me time to get to the phone for the ID number. When I come home I see so many 800 number hangups it gives me a good laugh. Wish I'd done this long ago.

Do you ask them if they know the extension of the person?

415 mikeymom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:44:40pm

re: #373 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm going to print that out and put it on my class room door!

my maine coonie cat once ate my sons homework and a pay check- mikey loves paper! sons teacher didnt believe him, so i sent in the chewed paper with teeth marks in it!

416 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:45:26pm

re: #413 BigMoo

OT-I noticed in an article on NRO yesterday that Rob Reiner and his Hollywood cronies were supposed to get some pretty sweet exemptions from taxes in the latest CA state budget "to protect the film industry".

I guess Rob just wants everyone ELSE to "spread the wealth" around...

Since I saw him lambasted on South Park, I just don't feel any urgency in making fun of Rob.

417 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:45:38pm

re: #369 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I was unaware of this until just now, but apparently a group of disaffected yoots have occupied a building at NYU in New York City.


Their demands
Their web site

I only got to #8 when my stomach contents started to rise quickly.

418 abaleh  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:45:41pm

re: #338 Hengineer

My mistake, I did see an article outlining the different types of corn, I just misremembered (word for ya ;) ) parts of it. As to the cellulositic ethanol, I agree it is not practical for production yet its force fed into our gas tanks right now (what is it, 10% of gasoline now?).

There are better ways of producing ethanol that I'm on an internet connection too slow to really look it up and post (sorry :( ).

One of the solutions the USAF is looking into is growing algae to produce ethanol, though they haven't arrived at a cost effective method yet.
It would be better than corn-based ethanol if it becomes cost effective, because it could be done in the desert instead of using up arable land.

419 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:45:44pm

re: #398 jcw46

Yoot? What's a yoot?

(name that movie quote for 25 Ø's)

Ø = the new U.S. monetary symbol. (coincidently it's the value also).

I can't think with all that noise from my biological clock tickin' and tickin'.

420 Ben Hur  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:45:49pm

re: #401 Who Watches the Watchmen?

As you can tell by the video here, this crew is very intimidating.

Talk about having an over-inflated sense of importance.

421 Outrider  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:45:56pm
Carter says he has “full confidence” in Obama’s proposal and expects it will take about six months for the economy to begin improving.


huh. I still believe the economy would have improved within six months without the stimulus. With it? Who knows how long now?

422 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:46:02pm

re: #398 jcw46

Yoot? What's a yoot?

(name that movie quote for 25 Ø's)

Ø = the new U.S. monetary symbol. (coincidently it's the value also).

Is the name the 0dollar?

Heading home

423 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:46:09pm

re: #415 mikeymom

my maine coonie cat once ate my sons homework and a pay check- mikey loves paper! sons teacher didnt believe him, so i sent in the chewed paper with teeth marks in it!

As I read your post, I truly thought you were going to write, "...so i sent in the litterbox evidence."

It's been a LONG day.

424 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:46:21pm

re: #403 albusteve

First you pepper spray the crowd, then you bean-bag the prime agitators once they're out in the open.
It's an art...

425 SurferDoc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:46:21pm

re: #398 jcw46

Yoot? What's a yoot?

(name that movie quote for 25 Ø's)

Ø = the new U.S. monetary symbol. (coincidently it's the value also).

My Cousin Vinnie

426 mattm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:46:21pm

Well that just gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside....not.

427 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:46:31pm

re: #422 Kosh's Shadow

Is the name the 0dollar?

Heading home

It's now the dolor/doler.

Either one.

428 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:46:38pm

re: #400 calcajun

South Korea still owes America big time for not letting them end up
like the North has. (The forgotten War)

429 baldeagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:46:43pm

Yup, Carter is like a zombie coming back in one of those movies,,,,you just an not get rid of him or his policies. THEY'RE BACK.

430 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:46:52pm

bbiab

431 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:47:02pm

re: #401 Who Watches the Watchmen?

As you can tell by the video here, this crew is very intimidating.

Down in the thumbs, left side down a little, top row 4th thumb nail.

The requisite "peace scarf". Screw the tear gas, straight to dogs and batons.

432 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:47:17pm

re: #416 OldLineTexan

I didn't see that. But knowing South Park, it was probably brutal.
Good.

433 mikeymom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:47:37pm

re: #423 goddessoftheclassroom

no, he uses paper to barf up hairballs-like a dog w/grass!

434 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:47:40pm

re: #402 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Please be assured; there will be no more St. Louis' being refused to land.

435 quickjustice  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:47:46pm

re: #412 NJDhockeyfan

NYU is a lefty school. They'll probably apologize to the demonstrators, and offer them full scholarships.

436 opnion  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:47:52pm

re: #399 Gus 802

Add the French to the mix and you get a full story of liberals going to war!

The French tend not to be the best militray tacticians, the Maginal Line & the defence of Bien Diem Phu.
The French Commander, decided to put his forces in a valley. He was sure that Ho Che Minh's forces could never get their guns up on the high ground. Alas they did & the French garrison fell.
They turned around & gave the same commander the same job in Algiers.

437 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:47:55pm
438 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:48:00pm
439 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:48:03pm

re: #433 mikeymom

no, he uses paper to barf up hairballs-like a dog w/grass!

I didn't think of hairball evidence!

440 x-wing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:48:37pm

re: #419 doppelganglander

I can't think with all that noise from my biological clock tickin' and tickin'.

You kick my ass? Let me think..hmmm..I could use a good ass-kickin'

441 Shug  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:48:38pm

1 Billion dollars of the stimulus going to the Homeless

That will surely stimulate wine beer and liquor sales

442 wiffersnapper  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:48:48pm

And by "improving" they mean "figure out they were swindled by cliched Hopenchange and will realize that conservatism was actually the right way to go"?

443 OldLineTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:48:57pm

re: #432 BigMoo

I didn't see that. But knowing South Park, it was probably brutal.
Good.

Way brutal.

444 BatGuano  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:49:00pm

re: #408 calcajun

He's a complicated man and no one understands him but his woman.

445 right Brain  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:49:14pm

re: #50 FightingBack

These historical inflation "calculations" were done by the Carter administration themselves and didn't include energy costs. Inflation in 1978-79 was around 18%, I recall very clearly having a 24% car loan and a 26% credit card.

On a more ominous note inflation figures for January 09 were .8% instead of the .2% that was expected. .8% translates to 9.6% annually, or double that of the Bush administration. Stay tuned.

446 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:49:15pm

re: #424 BigMoo

First you pepper spray the crowd, then you bean-bag the prime agitators once they're out in the open.
It's an art...

like a video game?...where do I volunteer?.....BOOM BOOM

447 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:49:59pm

Lebanon's Palestinian camps a 'time bomb': ICG

Lebanon's 12 Palestinian refugee camps are breeding grounds for extremist groups and constitute a "time bomb" that needs urgent attention, the International Crisis Group think-tank said Thursday.

Successive Lebanese governments were largely to blame for a "catastrophic" situation in the camps which were set up after the creation of Israel in 1948, the Brussels-based ICG said in a report.

"Marginalised, deprived of basic political and economic rights, trapped in the camps, bereft of realistic prospects, heavily armed and standing amid multiple fault lines... the refugee population constitutes a time bomb," it warned.

According to the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA), there are between 350,000 and 400,000 Palestinian refugees in Lebanon -- a country of more than four million inhabitants -- most of them living in 12 camps.

448 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:50:03pm

re: #423 goddessoftheclassroom

As I read your post, I truly thought you were going to write, "...so i sent in the litterbox evidence."

It's been a LONG day.

For the English teacher who's had a LONG day.

{goddess}

449 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:50:15pm

re: #437 taxfreekiller

Theft by vote fraud.

Democratic economic theory.

We will spend our way out of the problem Democrats created... spending other peoples money, ,,, by spending other peoples money.

First you must ,,,, take,,,, the other persons money,,,,that is an act of violence,,,, Democrat commies do intend to do you violence .

Stand up fight back.

Stimulate the economy! Buy ammunition! Support local businesses and give your neighborhood surplus store your custom!

450 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:50:42pm

re: #410 NY Nana

Seriously, does your State have a 'Do Not Call' registry? It works like a charm.

We are on the NY State one, and also the National Registry (Federal Government).

Oh yes. I'm also on the National one. They have expiration dates!
Also anyone can call you that you have a "business relationship" with. Also political parties. Buy one item and miss the check box on the form and bam! you've got phone calls!

451 quickjustice  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:50:51pm

re: #447 NJDhockeyfan

Sixty years later, they just figured this out? LMAO!

452 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:50:55pm

Looks like Murtha might get those fellows by default.

Fort Chaffee no place for Gitmo prisoners

The fear for states and municipalities is that when the terrorist prison at Guantanamo is closed, the inmates will be incarcerated somewhere in the states. Fort Smith Director Dr. Cole Goodman says he put forth the resolution because of past history at Fort Chaffee. The Arkansas National Guard base was once an active army base and held thousands of German POW's during World War II. In 1980 the fort housed Cuban refugees who incited riots and made many River Valley residents afraid.

Director Goodman says the city doesn't want to go through that again. He told 5NEWS that Fort Smith doesn't want to be the last one making a statement about this; they want to be one of the first on record.

I understand that they weren't the first; that OK was first to say, "Nah."

453 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:51:13pm

re: #448 pre-Boomer Marine brat

For the English teacher who's had a LONG day.

{goddess}

I do love you.

454 mattm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:51:18pm

re: #411 Russkilitlover

Oh, brother. I'd be LOLing if it wasn't so fucking disgusting.

Nice to see the UAW is not screwing over Universities now too...

5. That the NYU Administration agrees to resume negotiations with GSOC/UAW Local 2110 – the union for NYU graduate assistants, teaching assistants, and research assistants.

I say expel them all and make them pay all costs of the occupation, though it will most likely never happen.

455 Killian Bundy  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:51:29pm

In Gaza, US lawmakers push for progress

Three US lawmakers, including Sen. John Kerry, visited the Gaza Strip on Thursday, the first trip there by US congressmen in eight years and an indication, according to Rep. Brian Baird, of a change in the US approach to Gaza.

Baird (D-Wash) toured Gaza in the morning together with Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn), Congress's first Muslim member. They were followed in the afternoon by Kerry (D-Mass), who heads the Senate's Foreign Relations Committee.

Hamas 'sends Barack Obama letter'

The Palestinian group Hamas has sent a letter addressed to the US president via a US politician visiting Gaza, a senior UN official has said.

UN relief agency chief Karen Abu Zayd told the BBC the letter had been received by the UN and passed on.

She did not say if Senator John Kerry had accepted it, and there were no details about the letter's contents.

The US views Hamas, which seized control of Gaza in 2007, as a terrorist organisation and will not deal with it.

A former presidential candidate, Mr Kerry was visiting Gaza with US congressmen Brian Baird and Keith Ellison in the first such visit to the Hamas-run Strip since 2007.

Rep. Ellison says he isn't assigning blame, but finds destruction hard to understand

The usual suspects out and about enforcing the new policy, sucks to be Israel in the Obama age.

/Fashion

456 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:51:38pm

re: #447 NJDhockeyfan

According to the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA), there are between 350,000 and 400,000 Palestinian refugees in Lebanon -- a country of more than four million inhabitants -- most of them living in 12 camps.

Sucks that Jordan, Egypt & Syria won't take them in.

457 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:52:21pm

re: #449 calcajun

Stimulate the economy! Buy ammunition! Support local businesses and give your neighborhood surplus store your custom!

We are here. 9mm sells out as soon as it hits the shelf at Walmart

458 Eowyn2  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:52:23pm

re: #266 Walter L. Newton

There's another person that will make a small fortune out of being a jerk off.

I am asking, pleading, right now, today, from anyone who would like to contribute, I am asking you to suggest dumb ass things I could do to make my 15 minutes of fame and have a little nest egg.

Any suggestions?

1) forget the trees, its been done to death. Empty businesses are the future.
2) All unused space in the warehouse districts and shopping malls MUST be made into homes for the homeless. Its perfect. Put the screws to the giant retail conglomerations and property management while helping out the poor. Donations would be flowing in all the time. Walla Walla - you're rich and famous

459 livefreeor die  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:52:32pm

If Carter likes it, we all better break out the cardigans. Except in the White House.
"Some pigs are more equal than others."

460 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:52:34pm

re: #433 mikeymom

no, he uses paper to barf up hairballs-like a dog w/grass!

You've got your cat using herbals?
How avant garde!

461 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:52:37pm

re: #404 quickjustice

Trotting out Carter also suggests that the Democrats are getting desperate.

But didn't they win?
//

462 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:52:46pm

re: #436 opnion

Believe it or not, the French (mainly Foreign Legion, but hey, it's the French Foreign Legion) in Afghanistan have excelled at anti-insurgent combat. My son is in theater and advises that they are practically having to restrain the French troops, who are showing 'impressive aggression'.
Go figure.

463 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:52:53pm

re: #424 BigMoo

First you pepper spray the crowd, then you bean-bag the prime agitators once they're out in the open.
It's an art...

You know, I can imagine the guys on the water cannon doing riot control muttering under their breath, "It puts the lotion on its skin or else it get the hose again."

464 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:53:05pm

re: #419 doppelganglander
She's so cute but I have a feeling she's HIGH maintenance. IYNWIMAITTYD.

465 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:53:37pm

re: #441 Shug

And Sterno, don't forget the Sterno...

466 NYCHardhat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:53:43pm
467 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:53:58pm

re: #453 goddessoftheclassroom

I do love you.

*un-manly blush*
Thanks!

468 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:54:40pm

re: #467 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*un-manly blush*
Thanks!

You big softie, you.

469 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:54:42pm

re: #446 albusteve

Not exactly a video game-but the results CAN be rather funny...

470 bellamags  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:54:59pm

re: #466 NYCHardhat

I'm buying two copies of the Post from now on.

I heart you. That is funny.

471 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:55:12pm

re: #427 OldLineTexan

It's now the dolor/doler.

Either one.


Look at this; this evening we've come up with the new currency symbol AND it's name. OK were all set now bring on the dancing Unicorns.

472 livefreeor die  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:55:13pm

re: #454 mattm

I say expel them all and make them pay all costs of the occupation, though it will most likely never happen.


I agree. When I was in graduate school, you expected to work like a dog but at least in my field, you got free tuition and a modest living stipend and you were [gasp] grateful for that.

473 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:55:34pm

re: #465 BigMoo

And Sterno, don't forget the Sterno...

For the chafing dishes or as a chaser?

474 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:55:51pm

How to disperse the NYU sit-in: Place a cell phone block in the area.

Once they realize they can't use their cell phone or text message they'll freak.

475 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:55:51pm

re: #399 Gus 802

Add the French to the mix and you get a full story of liberals going to war!

You have to add Eisenhower to the mix with his propping up of the Diem regime.

/ fair is fair, it wasn't all Dems doing bad things.

476 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:56:05pm

re: #463 calcajun

LMAO-now THAT'S just funny, I don't care who ya are...

477 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:56:32pm

re: #424 BigMoo

First you pepper spray the crowd, then you bean-bag the prime agitators once they're out in the open.
It's an art...

But, but I want to bean bag them all, twice for any one wearing a peace scarf.

478 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:56:48pm

re: #475 FurryOldGuyJeans

You have to add Eisenhower to the mix with his propping up of the Diem regime.

/ fair is fair, it wasn't all Dems doing bad things.

JFK green-lit the coup that killed the Diems, remember.

479 livefreeor die  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:56:49pm

re: #474 Gus 802

How to disperse the NYU sit-in: Place a cell phone block in the area.

Once they realize they can't use their cell phone or text message they'll freak.

You could also close all the Starbucks within walking distance.

480 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:56:54pm

re: #468 calcajun

You big softie, you.

It's an interesting relationship

(-:

481 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:57:00pm

re: #475 FurryOldGuyJeans

You have to add Eisenhower to the mix with his propping up of the Diem regime.

/ fair is fair, it wasn't all Dems doing bad things.

Shhh! I know. I was self-censoring myself. He was the first more or less from the USA.

482 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:57:12pm

re: #473 calcajun

Chaser ! Classic high alcoholic drink of choice for the discriminating 'under the overpass' consumer...

483 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:57:37pm

re: #475 FurryOldGuyJeans

You have to add Eisenhower to the mix with his propping up of the Diem regime.

/ fair is fair, it wasn't all Dems doing bad things.

that was the prudent thing to do at the time...Ike knew there had to be a regime change sooner or later...it all went bad tho

484 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:57:58pm

re: #425 SurferDoc

My Cousin Vinnie


DING, DING, DING

Okay! Now, for an extra 10 Ø's; Name the Quotee.

485 Outrider  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:57:59pm

re: #456 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Sucks that Jordan, Egypt & Syria won't take them in.

Can't speak for Egypt and Syria, but Jordan has a couple of camps full of refugees that have been there for a couple of decades. Some since Abdullahs assassination in 1951. I think there is something to the order of an excess of 250,000 refugees in almost a dozen camps in Jordan. Perhaps Egypt and Syria should step up to the plate now? And why not the rest of their Arab brethren?

486 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:58:02pm

re: #479 livefreeor die

You could also close all the Starbucks within walking distance.

There you go. Now we have a list:

1. Cell Phone Block
2. Close Starbucks

What else?

487 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:58:05pm

re: #476 BigMoo

You're welcome. I'm here till Friday. Try the veal.

488 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:58:07pm

re: #474 Gus 802

How to disperse the NYU sit-in: Place a cell phone block in the area.

Once they realize they can't use their cell phone or text message they'll freak.

NO PIZZA!

489 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:58:12pm

re: #475 FurryOldGuyJeans

You have to add Eisenhower to the mix with his propping up of the Diem regime.

/ fair is fair, it wasn't all Dems doing bad things.

But that per-Diem was just maintaining the status quo.

490 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:58:14pm

re: #478 calcajun

JFK green-lit the coup that killed the Diems, remember.

exactly....really old time politics there

491 mikeymom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:58:31pm

re: #460 pre-Boomer Marine brat
he is soooo large-i once found a dried hairball behind a cabinet-was 8" long, 1" wide- i was gonna put it on e-bay as "world's largest hairball" and give the $$ to humane society-lol--was truly amazing! btw, i LOVE the exchange between you and goddess--

492 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:58:47pm

re: #480 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It's an interesting relationship

(-:

Oh, I'm sure.

493 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:58:54pm

re: #488 jcm

NO PIZZA!

1. Cell Phone Block
2. Close Starbucks
3. Close Dominos Pizza

494 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:58:55pm

re: #477 jcm

Much more fun to single out the arrogant a-holes, than the wannabees and posers...

495 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:59:08pm

re: #445 right Brain

Inflation numbers still don't include energy costs or food costs, IIRC.

496 livefreeor die  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:59:14pm

re: #486 Gus 802

There you go. Now we have a list:

1. Cell Phone Block
2. Close Starbucks

What else?

Tell them there's a huge sale at Abercrombie and Fitch.

497 screaming_eagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:59:16pm

re: #484 jcw46

DING, DING, DING

Okay! Now, for an extra 10 Ø's; Name the Quotee.

2 defendents

498 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:59:27pm

re: #478 calcajun

JFK green-lit the coup that killed the Diems, remember.

The young'uns don't get that thar part of the story. Very, very ironic considering what happened only months later.

499 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:59:41pm

re: #487 calcajun

Anybody here from out of town ?
Is this thing on ?

500 Outrider  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:59:55pm

re: #462 BigMoo

Believe it or not, the French (mainly Foreign Legion, but hey, it's the French Foreign Legion) in Afghanistan have excelled at anti-insurgent combat. My son is in theater and advises that they are practically having to restrain the French troops, who are showing 'impressive aggression'.
Go figure.

individual French soldiers have always been quite good as have some units. The higher military leadership of France? It has always sucked. The possible exception would be Napoleon and he was mostly Italian of some sort.

501 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 3:59:59pm

re: #484 jcw46

DING, DING, DING

Okay! Now, for an extra 10 Ø's; Name the Quotee.

Herman Munster

502 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:00:00pm

re: #484 jcw46

DING, DING, DING

Okay! Now, for an extra 10 Ø's; Name the Quotee.

Herman Munster

503 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:00:07pm

re: #488 jcm

NO PIZZA!

Blast God Bless America on loud speakers.

504 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:00:11pm

re: #491 mikeymom

he is soooo large-i once found a dried hairball behind a cabinet-was 8" long, 1" wide- i was gonna put it on e-bay as "world's largest hairball" and give the $$ to humane society-lol--was truly amazing! btw, i LOVE the exchange between you and goddess--

*grin* ... and I don't even remember which of us started it

505 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:00:20pm

re: #495 razorbacker

Inflation numbers still don't include energy costs or food costs, IIRC.

Isn't that amazing. Didn't that start around the Nixon administration?

506 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:01:10pm

re: #478 calcajun

JFK green-lit the coup that killed the Diems, remember.

But Eisenhower gave continual support to the Diem regime which became very repressive. Kinda like our supporting Saddam Hussein when he fought the Iranians, or the Afghani jihadis when they were fighting the Soviets. A bad policy that got worse over time.

507 x-wing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:01:12pm

re: #484 jcw46

DING, DING, DING

Okay! Now, for an extra 10 Ø's; Name the Quotee.

Herman Munster.

508 bravesoat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:01:18pm

Unfortunately I don't have my Jimmy Carter energy saving cardigan sweater to get me through the stimulus package. I will have to get a 'gently used' one at a thrift store, because I don't have enough for a new one. I use my money for my bills, thus making me ineligible for all bailouts.

509 Mirage  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:01:22pm

re: #425 SurferDoc

My Cousin Vinnie

Hilarious movie

510 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:01:23pm

re: #494 BigMoo

Much more fun to single out the arrogant a-holes, than the wannabees and posers...

LOL! I'm all for fun.

511 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:01:27pm
512 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:01:40pm

re: #492 calcajun

Oh, I'm sure.

Wanna see my bruises? Teethmarks?

/ ... :P ... did I say that last? ... Knawwww.

513 mattm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:01:40pm

re: #470 bellamags

I heart you. That is funny.

Al Sharpton is one of the biggest racists today.

514 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:01:44pm

re: #501 NJDhockeyfan

Mr. Trebec? My buzzer seems to be stuck.

515 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:02:00pm

re: #498 jcw46

The young'uns don't get that thar part of the story. Very, very ironic considering what happened only months later.

Like one month. Some might call it cosmic justice. Remember, I ascribe to the theory that for one moment, Lee Harvey Oswald became the luckiest shot in the world.

516 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:02:22pm

re: #489 pre-Boomer Marine brat

But that per-Diem was just maintaining the status quo.

The Diems were are corrupt and brutal as Saddam Hussein.

517 summergurl  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:02:34pm

re: #493 Gus 802

1. Cell Phone Block
2. Close Starbucks
3. Close Dominos Pizza

Pipe in some KC and the Sunshine Band

518 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:02:44pm

re: #464 jcw46

She's so cute but I have a feeling she's HIGH maintenance. IYNWIMAITTYD.

I was slightly confused until I realized the N should be a K. And yes, you are probably right.

519 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:02:45pm

re: #503 NonNativeTexan

Blast God Bless America on loud speakers.

Conflict resolution made easy the LGF Way.

520 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:02:56pm

re: #512 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Wanna see my bruises? Teethmarks?

/ ... :P ... did I say that last? ... Knawwww.

You're sharing too much--again.//

521 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:02:56pm

re: #508 bravesoat

Unfortunately I don't have my Jimmy Carter energy saving cardigan sweater to get me through the stimulus package. I will have to get a 'gently used' one at a thrift store, because I don't have enough for a new one. I use my money for my bills, thus making me ineligible for all bailouts.


Buy a Snuggie!

522 screaming_eagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:02:57pm

re: #513 mattm

Al Sharpton is one of the biggest racists today.

Fixed.

523 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:03:14pm

re: #519 jcm

Conflict resolution made easy the LGF Way.

that'll be 200$ please

524 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:03:15pm

re: #517 summergurl

Pipe in some KC and the Sunshine Band

Nooooooooooooooo! That might prove lethal!

525 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:03:15pm
526 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:03:16pm

re: #516 FurryOldGuyJeans

The Diems were are corrupt and brutal as Saddam Hussein.

Of course. That was merely for the pun.

527 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:03:47pm

re: #514 razorbacker

Mr. Trebec? My buzzer seems to be stuck.

LOL...I don't think I will ever do this again:

501 NJDhockeyfan 2/19/09 3:59:59 pm reply quote

re: #484 jcw46

DING, DING, DING

Okay! Now, for an extra 10 Ø's; Name the Quotee.

Herman Munster
502 razorbacker 2/19/09 4:00:00 pm reply quote

re: #484 jcw46

DING, DING, DING

Okay! Now, for an extra 10 Ø's; Name the Quotee.

Herman Munster

00.01 seconds apart.

528 Mirage  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:04:22pm

re: #484 jcw46

DING, DING, DING

Okay! Now, for an extra 10 Ø's; Name the Quotee.

Judge Chamberlain Haller

529 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:04:29pm

re: #526 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Of course. That was merely for the pun.

And belatedly I realized that, D'oh! ;)

530 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:04:45pm

compared to the putrid economic situation under the toxic jimmah carter, today's economic situation looks like the best of times.

531 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:04:52pm

re: #500 Outrider

Exactly-I won't ding any troops that serve with ours. Of course, then there's the Czechs-supposedly they won't leave their compound and play soccer all day in Afghanistan...but their government won't let them engage.

532 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:05:11pm

re: #521 HoosierHoops

Buy a Snuggie!

Where's Mandy's "whack" stick? Those things creep me out. The thought of people wearing them out in public reminds me of the mutants from "Beneath the Planet of the Apes".

533 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:05:23pm

re: #520 calcajun

Sorry, can you repeat that? ... And louder?
I can't see the screen ... hiding under the desk.

/hearing the pitterpatter of Basement Cat's paws

534 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:05:40pm

re: #483 albusteve

that was the prudent thing to do at the time...Ike knew there had to be a regime change sooner or later...it all went bad tho


Ike was kinda stuck with doing something after the failure of the Fwench. (of course they were trying to take it back which should've been a no-no) He didn't want a repeat of Korea which was only a few years in the past. Kennedy didn't have to send in more "advisors" though. The stories the libs tell is that JFK was going to pull them all out but Texas happened ---- hahahahah what fairy tales they love to invent.

535 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:05:42pm

re: #526 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Of course. That was merely for the pun.

Yes, you had to carpe Diem.

536 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:05:53pm

so was Ho a revolutionary or a patriot?

537 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:05:55pm
538 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:06:56pm

re: #535 calcajun

Yes, you had to carpe Diem.

/rimshot

539 NY Nana  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:06:58pm

re: #450 jcw46

We get a call once or twice a year, and always report it to the Federal one..it seems to work. We are still on the list. Same thing with NYS, as NY Grampa checks.

We also have caller ID, but it sucks...it does not always show the number. We are blocked, but I imagine that these serial callers also are.

BBL....

540 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:07:05pm

re: #534 jcw46

Ike was kinda stuck with doing something after the failure of the Fwench. (of course they were trying to take it back which should've been a no-no) He didn't want a repeat of Korea which was only a few years in the past. Kennedy didn't have to send in more "advisors" though. The stories the libs tell is that JFK was going to pull them all out but Texas happened ---- hahahahah what fairy tales they love to invent.

the record is very clear...so far...50 yrs from now who knows?

541 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:07:12pm

re: #505 Gus 802

Isn't that amazing. Didn't that start around the Nixon administration?

Lies, Damned Lies and Inflation Statistics

In the early 1970s, the United States found itself vexed by a newly powerful cartel of foreign oil producers, a 300 percent rise in crude prices and a new and unpleasant realization that Americans were no longer the sole masters of their own economic house. Rather than reining in its own politically driven monetary policies to slow the surge in consumer prices accompanying the oil shock, the Nixon-era Federal Reserve hit on the novel strategy of trying to cover it up instead. The traditional "headline" inflation rate, measuring the rise or fall of an average of all prices for a broad basket of goods and services, was nudged aside in favor of an index that stripped out the supposedly more volatile categories of food (subject to price spikes due to weather or plague) and energy (subject to price spikes due to unfriendly foreigners). Consumers may still have felt pain at the gas station and grocery store, but the government would no longer officially confirm their discomfort.

Sorry about the distinctly unreliable source, but it's the first I found.

542 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:07:18pm

re: #536 albusteve

so was Ho a revolutionary or a patriot?

Ho is half a cylindrical, frosted, cream-filled cake.

543 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:07:42pm

re: #501 NJDhockeyfan

Herman Munster


OH NO. NO. It's Fred Gwynne. OH, I'm so sorry. :(

544 bravesoat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:07:43pm

re: #521 HoosierHoops

Maybe we can all get a coupon from Congress for a snuggie! Barney Frank's picture can be on- we can move from an industrial, to a knowledge based, to now a snuggie based economy!

545 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:07:53pm

re: #510 jcm

Yeah, it used to make for some great after shift story telling and humor.

546 abaleh  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:08:06pm

re: #456 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Sucks that Jordan, Egypt & Syria won't take them in.


Jordan has ~2,000,000 Palestinians, most of whom (~90% I think) have Jordanian citizenship, and should therefore not be regarded as refugees.
Doesn't stop UNRWA from calling them refugees and giving them benefits.
Egypt has the least amount of refugees.

547 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:08:07pm

re: #542 jcm

Ho is half a cylindrical, frosted, cream-filled cake.

GAURDS!

548 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:08:34pm

re: #542 jcm

Ho is half a cylindrical, frosted, cream-filled cake.

That's a Ho Ho, you twit.///

549 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:08:35pm

re: #504 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*grin* ... and I don't even remember which of us started it

There's a project for your free time--collate our exchanges! I dimly remember challenging your assertion that dogs are better than cats.

550 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:08:35pm

re: #445 right Brain

These historical inflation "calculations" were done by the Carter administration themselves and didn't include energy costs. Inflation in 1978-79 was around 18%, I recall very clearly having a 24% car loan and a 26% credit card.

On a more ominous note inflation figures for January 09 were .8% instead of the .2% that was expected. .8% translates to 9.6% annually, or double that of the Bush administration. Stay tuned.

Home mortages in Oklahoma at that time were in the range of 20-25%.

551 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:08:35pm

re: #532 calcajun

Just curious: Earlier, you mentioned taking your dog for a walk along the American. Are you in the Sacramento vicinity? My late Dad lived in Fair Oaks for about 25 years.

552 mattm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:08:37pm

re: #369 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I was unaware of this until just now, but apparently a group of disaffected yoots have occupied a building at NYU in New York City.


Their demands
Their web site

I just looked at at their website. They posted a bunch of pictures. The smugness on their face just makes me hope that riot police will kick down the doors and, toss in a few flash bangs and haul their pathetic worthless asses off to jail.

Oh, they have also changed their "non-violence" statement. Not no property damage of off the table. They should be required to pay all back wages and damages from their little publicity stunt, working a janitors cleaning dorm bathrooms, Saturday morning.

553 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:08:49pm

re: #541 razorbacker

That works. I seem to remember the price controls he instituted.

554 livefreeor die  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:09:01pm

re: #532 calcajun

Where's Mandy's "whack" stick? Those things creep me out. The thought of people wearing them out in public reminds me of the mutants from "Beneath the Planet of the Apes".

They remind me of Logan's Run when the people are in the "renewal" ceremony.

555 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:09:22pm

re: #535 calcajun

Yes, you had to carpe Diem.

Was that a bitch about my carping?

556 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:09:23pm

re: #537 jcm

*WEEEET*
Upding required thread back.

Wow. Troll Hammer for Creationists. Deserves to be enshrined with Nakama's Troll Hammer.

557 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:09:52pm

re: #551 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just curious: Earlier, you mentioned taking your dog for a walk along the American. Are you in the Sacramento vicinity? My late Dad lived in Fair Oaks for about 25 years.

Not me. Dog(s) yes; American River, no. I'm down in San Diego.

558 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:10:07pm

Can I get me a Beaver Tail here?

President Hunts for "BeaverTail," Gets "ObamaTail" Instead

"I am looking for a BeaverTail," the president said at Byward Market, an old farmer's market.

But he was presented by BeaverTail staffer Jessica Milien with something else: A new pastry created by the Hookers last month -- the ObamaTail.

The ObamaTail is a cinnamon sugar BeaverTail topped with a whipped cream "O," a maple "O." and a chocolate "O."

The President said he ate some of the ObamaTail.

"It was very large," he said.

559 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:10:10pm

re: #542 jcm

Ho is half a cylindrical, frosted, cream-filled cake.

Who ya callin a Ho?

560 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:10:10pm

re: #552 mattm

I just looked at at their website. They posted a bunch of pictures. The smugness on their face just makes me hope that riot police will kick down the doors and, toss in a few flash bangs and haul their pathetic worthless asses off to jail.

Oh, they have also changed their "non-violence" statement. Not no property damage of off the table. They should be required to pay all back wages and damages from their little publicity stunt, working a janitors cleaning dorm bathrooms, Saturday morning.

simply shut down water, sewer and electric....problem solved

561 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:10:12pm

re: #518 doppelganglander

I was slightly confused until I realized the N should be a K. And yes, you are probably right.


HEY! I speak ok and can read but i write fohnehtiklee.

562 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:10:18pm

re: #550 Soona'

Home mortages in Oklahoma at that time were in the range of 20-25%.

I was out of HS back during Carter and was thinking of buying a house when I realized it was cheaper to take out a Mafia loan than one from a bank.

563 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:10:59pm

re: #533 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Sorry, can you repeat that? ... And louder?
I can't see the screen ... hiding under the desk.

/hearing the pitterpatter of Basement Cat's paws

I might even ask Zombie for some help...

564 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:11:10pm

re: #528 Mirage

Judge Chamberlain Haller

You get a partial credit for the Character Fred Gwynne played.

565 jcm  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:11:12pm

re: #548 calcajun

That's a Ho Ho, you twit.///

LOL!

Gotta run..

566 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:11:23pm

re: #554 livefreeor die

They remind me of Logan's Run when the people are in the "renewal" ceremony.

No--please No! No bad 70's sci-fi films.

567 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:11:58pm

re: #482 BigMoo

Chaser ! Classic high alcoholic drink of choice for the discriminating 'under the overpass' consumer...

Either that or large bottles of Scope or Listerene.

568 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:12:18pm

re: #542 jcm

Ho is half a cylindrical, frosted, cream-filled cake.

A nappy frosted Ho?

569 mikeymom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:12:22pm

re: #556 Alouette

YES! seconded! where has this guy been?

570 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:12:38pm

re: #544 bravesoat

Maybe we can all get a coupon from Congress for a snuggie! Barney Frank's picture can be on- we can move from an industrial, to a knowledge based, to now a snuggie based economy!

You want a million youtube hits? Pay someone to wear a Oakland Raiders black snuggie to the black hole in Oakland and film it....Priceless!

571 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:12:59pm

re: #566 calcajun

No--please No! No bad 70's sci-fi films.

Might as well buy an AMC Hornet while you're at it:

572 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:13:01pm

re: #567 Soona'
Very true !

573 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:13:44pm

re: #557 calcajun

Not me. Dog(s) yes; American River, no. I'm down in San Diego.

Ah ha! I thought it might be up yonder.

(heh, I was born at SD's Mercy Hospital)

574 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:13:56pm

re: #553 Gus 802

That works. I seem to remember the price controls he instituted.

Those last two paragraphs hit close to the mark, notwithstanding the poor reliability of Newsweek...

By the mid-1990s, while stodgier central bankers in Europe and Britain still clung to old-fashioned headline inflation to guide policy, the United States was rolling out "hedonic adjustments" that used technological breakthroughs to justify adjusting inflation estimates downward, even when advances like faster computer processors didn't touch most people's lives, let alone boost their spending power. And just in case technology didn't bring prices down fast enough, the United States enthusiastically embraced "substitution effects," opting to measure hamburger prices instead of steak if steak prices rose unpalatably. Even a boom in house prices could be negated simply by choosing to count slow-rising apartment rents instead of soaring home values.

So what to do if governments can't be trusted to get the data right? Try doing it yourself. To this end, the United Kingdom's national statistics office offers a personal inflation calculator on its Web site that lets consumers create their own index based on personal observations. As Groucho Marx might have said, "Who are you going to believe—the Fed or your own eyes?"

575 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:15:03pm

re: #484 jcw46

DING, DING, DING

Okay! Now, for an extra 10 Ø's; Name the Quotee.


Joe Pechi.

576 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:15:15pm

re: #568 NJDhockeyfan

A nappy frosted Ho?

Security!

577 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:15:55pm

Before this thread started, I tried to take a nap but THIS kept going thru my head:

(with apologies to W.S.)

To ding or not to ding, that is the question;
Whether 'tis better to suffer some lizard
Slinging arrows of outrageous prose,
Or move my mouse o'er line of icons,
And by clicking, rate them. To cry, to weep;
No more; and by weep to say we end
The ear-ache and the thousand shocks
That lurking here is prone to -- 'tis a completion
Devoutly to be wish'd. To click, to rate;
To rate, perchance to post. Ay, there's the rub,
For after that rating what ratings may be done,
When we have shuffled off to another thread,
Must give us pause. There's the respect
That makes cacophony of so long a lurk,
For who would bear the trolls and mobys of time,
The newbys wrong, the proud seniors' sneers,
The pangs of bad grammar, spelling wrong,
The insolence of the high karma'd and the spurns
Of the patient Charles of the hatchling twaddle,
When he himself might his banning make
With a bare violation of the posting rules?
To grunt and groan at the punning threads,
but that the dread of something after that;
The undiscovered moron from who's attack
No lizard escapes, puzzled by the ill-will,
And makes us rather bear the ills we know
Than listen to that which they know not of?
Thus consensus makes stinky of us all,
And thus the LGF hue of resolution
Is green and ocher when the moron is cast out,
And the business of great discuss and moment
Continues with the troll turned away,
As they lose their target of friction.

578 x-wing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:15:57pm

re: #573 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Ah ha! I thought it might be up yonder.

(heh, I was born at SD's Mercy Hospital)

Yes, and the nurses haven't stopped laughing yet ;>}

/white smoke

579 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:16:19pm

re: #563 goddessoftheclassroom

I might even ask Zombie for some help...

YIKES!
*THUNDERING racket of departing feet*

580 gregg  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:16:29pm

For those of us that don't have a deep understanding of economics, the following shows how TARP works in pictures . Heck, even I could understand it.

581 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:16:31pm

re: #562 FurryOldGuyJeans

I was out of HS back during Carter and was thinking of buying a house when I realized it was cheaper to take out a Mafia loan than one from a bank.

I'm sure some people did. There was also what could be called "black-market mortaging".

582 BigMoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:16:56pm

So, this has probably been worn out today-but I've been out of office...Did Rick Santelli 'knock it out of the park' this morning on CNBC or what ?
It's like someone in the MSM finally told the 'Emperor' that he truly has no clothes on.
I even wrote CNBC to thank him.

583 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:17:10pm

re: #574 razorbacker

So to summarize: the consumer price index is inaccurate. Could use harshser words to describe it I suppose. Scam comes to mind.

584 calcajun  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:17:24pm

re: #571 Gus 802

Might as well buy an AMC Hornet while you're at it:


Amazing. You can still buy one for about 3K. Talk about holding its value.

585 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:17:36pm

re: #575 debutaunt

Joe Pechi.

NO! He said 'yoots' but he didn't ask what a yoot is. sorrry.

586 rawmuse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:17:36pm

There probably are a lot of people on this thread not born when we had the Carter administration. Trust me, it was bad. The stock market was in the toilet (sound familiar) the only way you could get a loan was to pay loan shark rates. You could not buy gasoline any time you wanted, you had to go every other day, wait in line and buy a couple of gallons.

And the music sucked too.

587 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:17:48pm

re: #578 x-wing

Yes, and the nurses haven't stopped laughing yet ;>}

/white smoke

BLEAH!
*thumbs nose*

588 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:18:16pm

re: #586 rawmuse

There probably are a lot of people on this thread not born when we had the Carter administration. Trust me, it was bad. The stock market was in the toilet (sound familiar) the only way you could get a loan was to pay loan shark rates. You could not buy gasoline any time you wanted, you had to go every other day, wait in line and buy a couple of gallons.

And the music sucked too.

I remember my dad getting up extra early to get in the gas lines.

589 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:18:29pm

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

No it won't, because Obama's economic fiddling will sink it even further. What economy are you talking about.

How about 'the economy would have improved anyway without the package.'

590 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:19:04pm

re: #584 calcajun

Amazing. You can still buy one for about 3K. Talk about holding its value.

That was my first car too. Four door, blue, with some rust. What a boat that was but it was very easy to work on. Took over my sisters car payments.

591 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:19:34pm

re: #570 HoosierHoops

Try a Denver Broncos snuggy. Might get a few more....

592 thefallingman  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:19:48pm

Ahhhhh. I'm drinking some Zionist wine and at odds with Jimmeh. For a moment, all is right with the world.

593 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:20:43pm

re: #583 Gus 802

So to summarize: the consumer price index is inaccurate. Could use harshser words to describe it I suppose. Scam comes to mind.

'Selective' may be less harsh. The only true inflation figures that matter to the individual consumer are those that measure the rise (or fall. don't laugh, it's happened before. happened for twenty years after the Civil War) in prices on those items that you purchase, especially those purchases made on an ongoing basis.

Like...er...food.

594 Cato the Elder  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:20:44pm
595 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:21:09pm

re: #581 Soona'

I'm sure some people did. There was also what could be called "black-market mortaging".

My parents in 1975 used 'mortgage assumption' to buy a house, taking over an existing mortgage while making an additional and sizable payment to the current mortgage holder.

596 mikeymom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:21:24pm

re: #586 rawmuse

There probably are a lot of people on this thread not born when we had the Carter administration. Trust me, it was bad. The stock market was in the toilet (sound familiar) the only way you could get a loan was to pay loan shark rates. You could not buy gasoline any time you wanted, you had to go every other day, wait in line and buy a couple of gallons.

And the music sucked too.

my hubby made us get a wood stove cause home heating oil was so high. Gawd how i hated that thing! ash and dust everywhere! son developed asthma-- uugghh!

597 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:21:24pm

re: #586 rawmuse

There probably are a lot of people on this thread not born when we had the Carter administration. Trust me, it was bad. The stock market was in the toilet (sound familiar) the only way you could get a loan was to pay loan shark rates. You could not buy gasoline any time you wanted, you had to go every other day, wait in line and buy a couple of gallons.

And the music sucked too.

I think we had to fill up by odd or even license plate last digit?

598 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:21:34pm

re: #585 jcw46

NO! He said 'yoots' but he didn't ask what a yoot is. sorrry.

Trick question! Gimme my 10 oughts.

599 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:22:03pm
600 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:22:36pm

re: #583 Gus 802

So to summarize: the consumer price index is inaccurate. Could use harshser words to describe it I suppose. Scam comes to mind.

Its government, where a Ponzi scheme can be called Social Security.

601 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:23:11pm

re: #593 razorbacker

True. Food is the biggest indicator in my own experience. Less so is fuel in my particular case. Ironically my rent went up in the past year. Poor timing.

Would be interesting to see if there is an unofficial CPI done by a private organization.

602 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:23:15pm

re: #586 rawmuse

There probably are a lot of people on this thread not born when we had the Carter administration. Trust me, it was bad. The stock market was in the toilet (sound familiar) the only way you could get a loan was to pay loan shark rates. You could not buy gasoline any time you wanted, you had to go every other day, wait in line and buy a couple of gallons.

And the music sucked too.

I did keep my job, but there were no raises for about 4 years.

603 bravesoat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:23:48pm

re: #552 mattm

'Oh, I wished I lived during the 60s' Do you think Gandhi or Martin Luther King had the 'no repercussions' as #1 on their lists? They were willing to go to prison for their beliefs- Salt March/Birmingham Jail- these self absorbed losers want their fight the power moment, but it can't hurt their resumes.

604 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:23:58pm

re: #600 FurryOldGuyJeans

"We're from the government, and we're here to help!"

605 Cathypop  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:24:02pm

re: #580 gregg

For those of us that don't have a deep understanding of economics, the following shows how TARP works in pictures . Heck, even I could understand it.


Priceless!

606 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:24:42pm

re: #595 FurryOldGuyJeans

My parents in 1975 used 'mortgage assumption' to buy a house, taking over an existing mortgage while making an additional and sizable payment to the current mortgage holder.

These were not happy times.

607 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:25:03pm

I linked to this article before, but post #599 reminded me of another part of it:

1. Cake or Death?

In order to stop rising inflation and devaluation of the currency in third century Rome, Emperor Diocletian instituted fixed prices on most consumer goods. Anyone selling goods at prices higher than those of the emperor was put to death; this led to hoarding of goods. A law was then passed that forbade the hoarding of goods. Penalty? Death. So people just closed their businesses, then another law was passed. You guessed it: shut down your business or fail to follow in your father’s business? Death. It’s amazing the Roman Empire lasted as long as it did.

608 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:25:33pm

re: #602 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I did keep my job, but there were no raises for about 4 years.

I graduated from HS, full of enthusiasm and eager to take on the world, only to run into Carter's wall of unopportunity and malaise.

609 Cathypop  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:25:33pm

re: #586 rawmuse

There probably are a lot of people on this thread not born when we had the Carter administration. Trust me, it was bad. The stock market was in the toilet (sound familiar) the only way you could get a loan was to pay loan shark rates. You could not buy gasoline any time you wanted, you had to go every other day, wait in line and buy a couple of gallons.

And the music sucked too.

I remember sitting in the lines and yes the music sucked

610 Truck Monkey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:26:03pm

re: #586 rawmuse

There probably are a lot of people on this thread not born when we had the Carter administration. Trust me, it was bad. The stock market was in the toilet (sound familiar) the only way you could get a loan was to pay loan shark rates. You could not buy gasoline any time you wanted, you had to go every other day, wait in line and buy a couple of gallons.

And the music sucked too.

Have you forgotten ABBA and the Starland Vocal Band? What about KC and the Sunshine Band?

/

611 lostlakehiker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:26:37pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Well, the price is below 35 dollars a barrel, and the price has gone up over the last few months.

And food keeps going up. Remember back in the fall they said food prices were going up BECAUSE of transportation cost.

Me thinks they are fucking with us.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

The government is carpet bombing the economy with money. From the Continental Congress, to the Confederacy, to the Weimar Republic, and other historical situations too numerous to list, it's the same story. The more money there is in the economy, the higher prices go. And why not? Money has only purpose for its holder: to enable him or her to outbid the field and bring home something of value.

612 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:26:38pm

re: #595 FurryOldGuyJeans

My parents in 1975 used 'mortgage assumption' to buy a house, taking over an existing mortgage while making an additional and sizable payment to the current mortgage holder.


Have hope; we are a very ingenious "race" we americans. Somehow we will weather this scam artist as we've weathered others as dangerous and stupid. Clinton comes to mind. Folks don't understand he got in at an opportune time; ussr = gone, threats = minimal (on the surface), economy chugging along (the reps saved him from himself) and money in the bank because of lessened military expenditure (because reagan and bush built it all back up for him to waste). He was smart enough to just step back and leave things alone after the first 2 years. Of course his 'idleness' lead to other blunders. He even lucked out with the bosnian situation which could have gotten very, very nasty.

613 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:26:50pm

Chimp attacked me too, woman reports


STAMFORD, Conn. - A woman said yesterday she was bitten more than a decade ago by the chimp who severely mauled his owner’s friend this week, and that both the owner and police should have done more in response.

Leslie Mostel Paul said she tried to shake Travis the chimp’s hand after his owner, Sandra Herold, gave her permission. Paul said the animal, who was sitting in Herold’s car in a Stamford office parking lot, grabbed her hand and bit it hard enough to draw blood.

Paul said she reported the incident to police but received no follow-up calls.

614 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:26:54pm

re: #609 Cathypop

I remember sitting in the lines and yes the music sucked

The big money making movies were disaster movies.

615 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:26:58pm

re: #608 FurryOldGuyJeans

I graduated from HS, full of enthusiasm and eager to take on the world, only to run into Carter's wall of unopportunity and malaise.


How? Didn't you join the YACC?

/s

I actually did. Boy was that a joke.

616 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:27:02pm

re: #597 NonNativeTexan

I think we had to fill up by odd or even license plate last digit?

Not to mention that sometimes the gas stations were closed because they didn't have enough gas.

617 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:27:04pm

re: #610 Truck Monkey

Have you forgotten ABBA and the Starland Vocal Band? What about KC and the Sunshine Band?

/

And the BGs, "Stayin Alive"

618 Cathypop  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:27:24pm

re: #610 Truck Monkey

Have you forgotten ABBA and the Starland Vocal Band? What about KC and the Sunshine Band?

/

See, Rawmuse was right. The music sucked

619 jjmckay1216  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:27:39pm

re: #609 Cathypop

I remember sitting in the lines and yes the music sucked

my world was bad... i was a gas jockey at the time at a Sears store. And YES, the music did and STILL sucks..lol

620 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:27:40pm

re: #610 Truck Monkey

Have you forgotten ABBA and the Starland Vocal Band? What about KC and the Sunshine Band?

/

good stuff from the 70's....very good

621 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:27:54pm

re: #601 Gus 802

Some things, however, have actually gotten cheaper in price when inflation is taken into account.

Televisions, for example. A good TV has cost about $500 all my life. Not for the first adaptors, of course, but eventually the price comes down to around $500.

I'm seeing plasma and LCDs edging down towards $500 now.

622 Cathypop  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:28:17pm

re: #614 FurryOldGuyJeans

The big money making movies were disaster movies.

Good thing I am a fan of bad disaster movies.

623 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:28:19pm

re: #607 gmsc

I linked to this article before, but post #599 reminded me of another part of it:

It's starting to sound all too familiar.

624 debutaunt  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:28:20pm

re: #611 lostlakehiker

You ain't seen nothing yet.

The government is carpet bombing the economy with money. From the Continental Congress, to the Confederacy, to the Weimar Republic, and other historical situations too numerous to list, it's the same story. The more money there is in the economy, the higher prices go. And why not? Money has only purpose for its holder: to enable him or her to outbid the field and bring home something of value.

More money chasing the same goods= less value to the money.

625 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:29:11pm

re: #606 Soona'

These were not happy times.

I heard they were Good Times!

626 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:29:26pm

re: #615 Gus 802

How? Didn't you join the YACC?

/s

I actually did. Boy was that a joke.

Ummm, the only yacc I know is this.

627 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:29:47pm

re: #621 razorbacker

Tech sure does. RAM does fluctuate. Digital cameras have plummeted as have LCDs monitors. Not the best of quality however.

628 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:29:57pm

re: #603 bravesoat

'Oh, I wished I lived during the 60s' Do you think Gandhi or Martin Luther King had the 'no repercussions' as #1 on their lists? They were willing to go to prison for their beliefs- Salt March/Birmingham Jail- these self absorbed losers want their fight the power moment, but it can't hurt their resumes.

The Diem regime in Vietnam was mentioned up-thread. The Sixties also saw Buddhist monks immolating themselves (publicly) in protest.

The Fifties saw the Hungarian rebellion. Find a book titled "The Bridge at Andau".

629 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:30:16pm

re: #537 jcm

*WEEEET*
Upding required thread back.

Oh, that was good! Way to go, Brit in Japan. I have bookmarked for future use.

630 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:30:16pm

re: #622 Cathypop

Good thing I am a fan of bad disaster movies.

Irwin Allen certainly had a flair for making bad look good.

631 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:30:21pm

re: #608 FurryOldGuyJeans

I graduated from HS, full of enthusiasm and eager to take on the world, only to run into Carter's wall of unopportunity and malaise.

Ouch!

632 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:30:28pm

re: #621 razorbacker

Some things, however, have actually gotten cheaper in price when inflation is taken into account.

Televisions, for example. A good TV has cost about $500 all my life. Not for the first adaptors, of course, but eventually the price comes down to around $500.

I'm seeing plasma and LCDs edging down towards $500 now.


Color or Black and White? I was 15 years old before I found out
some of the Wizard of Oz was in color.

633 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:30:42pm

re: #618 Cathypop

See, Rawmuse was right. The music sucked

LOL. Yes. I agree.

634 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:31:26pm

re: #626 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ummm, the only yacc I know is this.

Ah. I remember my first computer was a Unysis. Took up a glassed in air conditioned room. Wasn't mine but the mainframe for the community college I was attending. That might have been around 1980.

635 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:32:02pm

re: #626 FurryOldGuyJeans

But YACC was the Young Adult Conservation Corps.

636 Cathypop  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:32:14pm

re: #630 FurryOldGuyJeans

Irwin Allen certainly had a flair for making bad look good.


Towering Inferno is one of my favorites. I may watch it this weekend

637 Truck Monkey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:32:36pm

re: #612 jcw46

Have hope; we are a very ingenious "race" we americans. Somehow we will weather this scam artist as we've weathered others as dangerous and stupid. Clinton comes to mind. Folks don't understand he got in at an opportune time; ussr = gone, threats = minimal (on the surface), economy chugging along (the reps saved him from himself) and money in the bank because of lessened military expenditure (because reagan and bush built it all back up for him to waste). He was smart enough to just step back and leave things alone after the first 2 years. Of course his 'idleness' lead to other blunders. He even lucked out with the bosnian situation which could have gotten very, very nasty.

Don't forget that his first act was "Don't ask and Don't Tell" and appointing the Hildebeast as Healthcare Taskforce Ogre. That did not go down too well (can anyone say hubris), and that led to the Republican takeover over Congress in '96. The Obamessiahs overreaching might likewise lead to him getting spanked in a couple of years. We can only HOPE that he won't CHANGE.

638 screaming_eagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:33:31pm

re: #637 Truck Monkey

Don't forget that his first act was "Don't ask and Don't Tell" and appointing the Hildebeast as Healthcare Taskforce Ogre. That did not go down too well (can anyone say hubris), and that led to the Republican takeover over Congress in '96. The Obamessiahs overreaching might likewise lead to him getting spanked in a couple of years. We can only HOPE that he won't CHANGE.

AND the assult weapons ban.

639 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:33:39pm

re: #635 Gus 802

But YACC was the Young Adult Conservation Corps.

Even when I was but a wee lad I was not a progressive. Age has only hardened me into the crusty Conservative I am now. ;)

640 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:33:46pm

re: #580 gregg

For those of us that don't have a deep understanding of economics, the following shows how TARP works in pictures . Heck, even I could understand it.

ROTFLMAO!

641 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:34:33pm

re: #636 Cathypop

Towering Inferno is one of my favorites. I may watch it this weekend

There is an EXCELLENT 2 DVD special edition....LOTS of extras about the making of the movie.

642 Spiny Norman  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:35:14pm

re: #192 FightingBack

Gas could be purchased on certain days only, to handle the shortage. They'd put a sign on a car in line "Last car. No Gas after this" and the rest of the line would break away. I had a pass to buy on my off days, because I was medical personnel.

When I was in Jr High, my friend's mom had a '65 Mustang with the vanity license plate "ODD EVEN".

In California in those days, vehicles with an odd number as the last digit could be fueled on certain days, and those with an even number could fueled up on the other days. Vanity plates could fill up at any time, iirc.

643 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:35:45pm

re: #639 FurryOldGuyJeans

Even when I was but a wee lad I was not a progressive. Age has only hardened me into the crusty Conservative I am now. ;)

You? Crusty? I guess that Bob Dylan 8-track was a giveaway. I actually did vote for [cough] but voted straight Republican for local.

644 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:35:59pm

re: #639 FurryOldGuyJeans

Even when I was but a wee lad I was not a progressive. Age has only hardened me into the crusty Conservative I am now. ;)

Hell, I didn't even want to be a Sunbeam for Jesus. :)

645 Killian Bundy  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:36:15pm

Found! Accused Scammer Stanford Turns in Passport in Washington

The billionaire banker accused of scamming $8 billion, R. Allen Stanford, was located by FBI officials today and served with civil papers by the SEC, putting an end to a nationwide search.

Stanford later turned in his passport to federal prosecutors, saying "he would not flee," according to one of Stanford's lobbyists, Ben Barnes.

He's a lucky man now surely under Federal protection.

/just steps ahead of his vicious drug cartel overlords' ultimate wrath

646 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:36:34pm

re: #638 screaming_eagle

AND the assult weapons ban.

Think UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE! Which surprisingly enough, Bob Dole managed to and was willing to stop. Bob Dole for all his dryness, Bob Dole did manage to say NO once to spending for democrats.

647 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:36:44pm

re: #627 Gus 802

According to a camera manufacturer (well, they're sold under what used to be a famous name but built in China like many others) what matters in digital cameras is the lens. The rest of it is pretty well standard on digitals.

648 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:36:45pm

re: #644 Soona'

Hell, I didn't even want to be a Sunbeam for Jesus. :)

That is SO weird: that song came into my head today, and I actually started singing it!

649 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:37:02pm

re: #642 Spiny Norman

When I was in Jr High, my friend's mom had a '65 Mustang with the vanity license plate "ODD EVEN".

In California in those days, vehicles with an odd number as the last digit could be fueled on certain days, and those with an even number could fueled up on the other days. Vanity plates could fill up at any time, iirc.

65 Mustang. Was she hot too?

650 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:37:45pm

re: #613 loppyd

Chimp attacked me too, woman reports

right now animal planet has a great show on abt. the danger grown chimps pose to people. it discussed the attack in california afew yrs. ago.
alpha males. they are so violent.
of course jane goodall was careful abt. not discussing this nastiness in her books.
who would want to fund these killers if they knew.

651 Truck Monkey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:37:46pm

re: #638 screaming_eagle

AND the assult weapons ban.

Bubba has got nuthin' on this guy when it comes to hubris! He thinks that he can do whatever the f*ck he wants because "he won". I think we are in for a wild 4 year ride.

652 Alone in NY  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:38:07pm

This is the funniest thing I've heard all day.

653 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:38:43pm

re: #644 Soona'

Hell, I didn't even want to be a Sunbeam for Jesus. :)

I do have to admit I flirted with the 70's Youth Revival movement. It required a LOT of reading here to deprogram me from that.

654 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:39:04pm

re: #650 nyc redneck

right now animal planet has a great show on abt. the danger grown chimps pose to people. it discussed the attack in california afew yrs. ago.
alpha males. they are so violent.
of course jane goodall was careful abt. not discussing this nastiness in her books.
who would want to fund these killers if they knew.

I just read that there FOUR teams of surgeons for the poor woman who was mauled.

It never should have happened.

655 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:39:09pm

re: #632 NonNativeTexan

Color or Black and White? I was 15 years old before I found out
some of the Wizard of Oz was in color.

Heh. I used to walk up the alley to my uncle's house on Sunday nights to watch Bonanza in color.

I think that Dad bought our first color set when I was about 9 or 10.

656 screaming_eagle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:39:22pm

re: #646 jcw46

Yes I remember. But I also remember Clinton whining and crying about the NRA. Not the fact that the passed the gun-ban but the fact that the NRA had the nerve to tell the people.

657 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:39:54pm

re: #654 loppyd

I just read that there FOUR teams of surgeons for the poor woman who was mauled.

It never should have happened.

the poor woman knew the chimp well...she was certainly no stranger

658 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:40:01pm

re: #648 goddessoftheclassroom

That is SO weird: that song came into my head today, and I actually started singing it!

Wierod!
/

659 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:40:41pm

re: #643 Gus 802

You? Crusty? I guess that Bob Dylan 8-track was a giveaway. I actually did vote for [cough] but voted straight Republican for local.

It was my older brother who was the big proponent of 8 track. I was cassette from day one. Always been an UBER tech geek.

660 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:40:41pm

Next stop Down 6300's?

Some Stimu-Less©

Find a bunch, I dare ya'.

Spooky, spooky.....

661 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:40:42pm

re: #655 razorbacker

Heh. I used to walk up the alley to my uncle's house on Sunday nights to watch Bonanza in color.

I think that Dad bought our first color set when I was about 9 or 10.

Aw,,, the simple pleasures

662 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:40:48pm

re: #643 Gus 802

You? Crusty? I guess that Bob Dylan 8-track was a giveaway. I actually did vote for [cough] but voted straight Republican for local.


What was that, I couldn't hear you? You voted for ?

I have to confess, in my yoot, I voted for ---- McGovern. There, I said it. I'm not proud of it but I was taken in by the "everybody gets paid" blarney. Not having been employed for long nor had any idea what havoc such an idea would have on the economy. Then Nixon imploded and I became distracted by TRYING TO KEEP MYSELF FED!

663 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:41:56pm

re: #657 albusteve

the poor woman knew the chimp well...she was certainly no stranger

The whole thing is just whack if you ask me.

664 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:42:44pm

re: #659 FurryOldGuyJeans

It was my older brother who was the big proponent of 8 track. I was cassette from day one. Always been an UBER tech geek.

Sooner or later I upgraded to the 8-track cassette convertor. Remember those? It was a big giant 8-track with a cassette player in it.

665 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:42:51pm

re: #595 FurryOldGuyJeans

My parents in 1975 used 'mortgage assumption' to buy a house, taking over an existing mortgage while making an additional and sizable payment to the current mortgage holder.

Unfortunately, most mortgages today contain a due on sale clause and/or an acceleration clause that makes assumption impossible. If lenders eliminated those clauses on existing loans, some people who are currently underwater might be able to find buyers who would assume the loan. There's no equity anyway, so it would just be taking over payments. Obviously this would only work with fixed rate loans, but even if it's one of those outlandish ARMs, a qualified buyer could refinance. The seller avoids foreclosure, the bank gets money, someone gets a house.

666 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:43:18pm

re: #653 FurryOldGuyJeans

I do have to admit I flirted with the 70's Youth Revival movement. It required a LOT of reading here to deprogram me from that.

I had a run in with them once when I was trying to score some pot. Brutally religious.

667 avanti  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:43:19pm

re: #104 krisstingle

I really can' understand how Obama's approval rating is still at 60%

That 60% needs to drop in here to get some doom and gloom to take the glow off. Heck, I need to step away with my Commie friends or I'll get depressed too./s In all seriousness, it's good to stay grounded and not get too hope and change infected. Here in a blue state, were mostly delighted, but it's a bubble of a different sort too.

668 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:43:30pm

'70s may have had some good music, but let's take a look at some songs that were #1 hits while Carter was president:

669 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:43:53pm

re: #650 nyc redneck

right now animal planet has a great show on abt. the danger grown chimps pose to people. it discussed the attack in california afew yrs. ago.
alpha males. they are so violent.
of course jane goodall was careful abt. not discussing this nastiness in her books.
who would want to fund these killers if they knew.

To be fair to Jane, I don't think she advocated chimps as pets.

670 Truck Monkey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:44:08pm

re: #655 razorbacker

Heh. I used to walk up the alley to my uncle's house on Sunday nights to watch Bonanza in color.

I think that Dad bought our first color set when I was about 9 or 10.

I remember that the Sunday Night Disney movies were brought to us "in living color" on NBC, and trying to figure out what the hell that means as I was seeing it in black and white. Now my kids cannot believe that their old man actually had to watch "gray" TV and had to get up to change the channel.

671 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:44:28pm

re: #662 jcw46

What was that, I couldn't hear you? You voted for ?

I have to confess, in my yoot, I voted for ---- McGovern. There, I said it. I'm not proud of it but I was taken in by the "everybody gets paid" blarney. Not having been employed for long nor had any idea what havoc such an idea would have on the economy. Then Nixon imploded and I became distracted by TRYING TO KEEP MYSELF FED!

I voted for Car.. [cough]. Just once. Actually before that in intermediate school I was a Nixon kid. Used to have his stickers and bring them to school. I was the odd man out in that sense. Used to carry around Lou Drendel aircraft books and AF and Navy brochures.

672 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:44:31pm

re: #654 loppyd

I just read that there FOUR teams of surgeons for the poor woman who was mauled.

It never should have happened.

no, should not have happened. this is a perfect example of people humanizing wild creatures and ignoring their vicious wild nature. i love animals, but there are many creatures that can not be domesticated and kept as a pet. this crazy woman put clothes on it and let it eat at the table.

uh oh, the narrator is in uganda now. where chimps have invaded villages and stolen human babies and killed and eaten them.
omg

673 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:44:40pm

re: #659 FurryOldGuyJeans

It was my older brother who was the big proponent of 8 track. I was cassette from day one. Always been an UBER tech geek.


I actually didn't buy an 8-track until after I had owned a cassette. I liked being able to put the tape in and it would just play and play and play. reverse wind cassettes didn't come out right away and they were too spendy for me then. People would look at me weirdly when I'd brag on my 8 track.

674 Killian Bundy  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:44:42pm

re: #660 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Next stop Down 6300's?

I wouldn't count on it, more likely another test of 7500.

/there's been no volume since Tuesday

675 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:44:54pm

re: #665 doppelganglander

Unfortunately, most mortgages today contain a due on sale clause and/or an acceleration clause that makes assumption impossible. If lenders eliminated those clauses on existing loans, some people who are currently underwater might be able to find buyers who would assume the loan. There's no equity anyway, so it would just be taking over payments. Obviously this would only work with fixed rate loans, but even if it's one of those outlandish ARMs, a qualified buyer could refinance. The seller avoids foreclosure, the bank gets money, someone gets a house.

There you go, talking sense. Off with you! SHOO!

/Obama Administration

676 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:44:59pm

re: #664 Gus 802

Sooner or later I upgraded to the 8-track cassette convertor. Remember those? It was a big giant 8-track with a cassette player in it.

I gave one to my brother as a birthday present which took him 20 days to see the advantage. ;)

677 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:45:41pm

re: #670 Truck Monkey

Your lucky,my kids asked me if we had TV when I was there age

678 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:46:23pm

re: #655 razorbacker

Heh. I used to walk up the alley to my uncle's house on Sunday nights to watch Bonanza in color.

I think that Dad bought our first color set when I was about 9 or 10.

My husband reports that a paperboy, circa 1973, came to their house and wondered out loud what was wrong with their television. It was black and white. His dad went out and bought a color TV the next day.

679 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:46:31pm

re: #667 avanti

That 60% needs to drop in here to get some doom and gloom to take the glow off. Heck, I need to step away with my Commie friends or I'll get depressed too./s In all seriousness, it's good to stay grounded and not get too hope and change infected. Here in a blue state, were mostly delighted, but it's a bubble of a different sort too.


Yeah, it's a bubble of HIGH expectations and when it gets burst, somebody's gonna pay.

680 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:46:45pm

re: #667 avanti

Still just complaining, eh? No solutions to fix the problems you gleefully kvetch about?

681 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:46:52pm

re: #676 FurryOldGuyJeans

I gave one to my brother as a birthday present which took him 20 days to see the advantage. ;)

Did you like the metal tapes? I still have a cassette player in the car and a box full of cassettes.

682 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:47:07pm

re: #672 nyc redneck

no, should not have happened. this is a perfect example of people humanizing wild creatures and ignoring their vicious wild nature. i love animals, but there are many creatures that can not be domesticated and kept as a pet. this crazy woman put clothes on it and let it eat at the table.

uh oh, the narrator is in uganda now. where chimps have invaded villages and stolen human babies and killed and eaten them.
omg

I heard on the radio that he slept in bed with her.

683 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:47:12pm

re: #677 Shakey Jakey

Your lucky,my kids asked me if we had TV when I was there age

Did Ya?

684 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:47:25pm

***********
The Hoopster's Tivo Schedule tonight..
***********
1. Great new science show on at 8EST on NATGeo channel..Called Known Universe.. (2009) new The fastest: Using speed to unlock the mysteries of space.. 1 hr..
2. Burn Notice: New show tonight at 10pm EST.. Surprising good show..Fun..plus lots of girls in bikinis.

Duke is playing St. John tonight...

685 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:47:51pm

re: #663 loppyd

The whole thing is just whack if you ask me.

they slept together, drank wine together, the ape brushed her hair for her....demented, she belongs in a mental ward

686 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:47:56pm

American Soldier lays it on the line to Iraqi police.

If I ever meet this dude, I'm buying him a steak and a beer.

687 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:48:00pm

re: #684 HoosierHoops

***********
The Hoopster's Tivo Schedule tonight..
***********
1. Great new science show on at 8EST on NATGeo channel..Called Known Universe.. (2009) new The fastest: Using speed to unlock the mysteries of space.. 1 hr..
2. Burn Notice: New show tonight at 10pm EST.. Surprising good show..Fun..plus lots of girls in bikinis.

Duke is playing St. John tonight...

Is this their first game since losing to BC?

688 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:48:16pm

re: #683 NonNativeTexan

Yeah but the first one I emember was round

689 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:48:33pm

re: #685 albusteve

they slept together, drank wine together, the ape brushed her hair for her....demented, she belongs in a mental ward

Most definitely a screw loose there.

690 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:48:33pm

re: #677 Shakey Jakey

Your lucky,my kids asked me if we had TV when I was there age

Did you?

691 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:48:39pm

re: #677 Shakey Jakey

Your You're lucky, my kids asked me if we had TV when I was there their age

FTFY

692 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:48:58pm

re: #673 jcw46

I actually didn't buy an 8-track until after I had owned a cassette. I liked being able to put the tape in and it would just play and play and play. reverse wind cassettes didn't come out right away and they were too spendy for me then. People would look at me weirdly when I'd brag on my 8 track.

My brother would record vinyl to 8 track, and the LOUD clunks on playback as the heads changed tracks drove me up the wall.

693 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:49:09pm

re: #688 Shakey Jakey

PIMF remember

694 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:49:26pm

re: #685 albusteve

they slept together, drank wine together, the ape brushed her hair for her....demented, she belongs in a mental ward

Naked, in the Ape compound at the zoo.

695 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:49:38pm

re: #690 Soona'

Did you?


Too Slow...:)

696 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:50:00pm

re: #685 albusteve

they slept together, drank wine together, the ape brushed her hair for her....demented, she belongs in a mental ward

It's so sad. I read that her husband died five years ago, and she lost her daughter in a car accident before that.

697 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:50:27pm

Democrats go Palliwood....
Yahoo pic

U.S. Rep. Brian Baird, D-Wash.collects books from the rubble of the American International school in Beit Lahiya in the northern of Gaza Strip, Thursday, Feb. 19, 2009.

Those books have been sitting there a month just waiting for a Memocrat to pick them up.

Ellison pretends to lift a heavy bag of free food
to understand Palestinian hardships.

Braird carries Hamas' water

698 Truck Monkey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:50:48pm

re: #696 goddessoftheclassroom

It's so sad. I read that her husband died five years ago, and she lost her daughter in a car accident before that.

I believe that the Chimp was driving.

/covers head and runs away.

699 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:50:50pm

re: #692 FurryOldGuyJeans

My brother would record vinyl to 8 track, and the LOUD clunks on playback as the heads changed tracks drove me up the wall.

Does anybody else remember Toot-A-Loop radios?

700 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:51:07pm

re: #669 goddessoftheclassroom

To be fair to Jane, I don't think she advocated chimps as pets.

it would have been nice to know more abt, the their true nature,
so people might be more aware of how undesirable they are as pets.
she studied them for yrs. she was selective abt, what she wrote.

701 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:51:12pm

re: #681 Gus 802

Did you like the metal tapes? I still have a cassette player in the car and a box full of cassettes.

I am strictly digital now and have been for years. Never was a big listener of music, except for occasional Classical.

A tape was a tape, price was more my concern.

702 x-wing  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:51:20pm

re: #686 Noam Sayin'

Oh man. This guy is hardcore. Damn!

703 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:51:20pm

re: #675 Russkilitlover

There you go, talking sense. Off with you! SHOO!

/Obama Administration

I think I hear the guys at the door coming to take me away to Reeducation Happy Happy Funtime Camp.

704 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:51:24pm

re: #697 Killgore Trout

The thought of Ellison in Palestine on an official basis gives me the creeps.

705 Truck Monkey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:51:45pm

re: #699 gmsc

Does anybody else remember Toot-A-Loop radios?

Had one.

706 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:51:52pm

re: #695 NonNativeTexan

Too Slow...:)

Okay. Oklay. I'm just getting tired and thread-sore.

707 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:52:16pm

re: #671 Gus 802

I voted for Car.. [cough]. Just once. Actually before that in intermediate school I was a Nixon kid. Used to have his stickers and bring them to school. I was the odd man out in that sense. Used to carry around Lou Drendel aircraft books and AF and Navy brochures.


SOOOO! It was YOU! Well, I can't cast any stones (at least not any big ones). Nixon and Ford messed a lot of peoples minds up. The media then was just as bad as now. Nixon was crook Ford was a stumblebum. Carter looked like a college professor. Too bad he was like an art history professor. Good for teaching art but not much else of use. Even his being in the US SubService wasn't all that. When the Iranians took over the Embassy AND he flubbed the rescue, that's when I said f**k it all.

708 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:52:17pm

re: #699 gmsc

Does anybody else remember Toot-A-Loop radios?

Yes. ;)

709 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:52:41pm

re: #687 loppyd

Is this their first game since losing to BC?

Not sure..been watching 3-4 games on and off..But I know this..This may be the last time Duke plays ST. Johns for many years in NY. The reasons are many and somewhat complex..But don't expect this matchup for many years to come.

710 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:52:48pm

re: #672 nyc redneck

no, should not have happened. this is a perfect example of people humanizing wild creatures and ignoring their vicious wild nature. i love animals, but there are many creatures that can not be domesticated and kept as a pet. this crazy woman put clothes on it and let it eat at the table.

uh oh, the narrator is in uganda now. where chimps have invaded villages and stolen human babies and killed and eaten them.
omg

I dated a guy a long, long time ago who had a crazy mother who dressed up her dog and fed it at the dinner table in its own high-chair. Poor dog (poodle) was totally neurotic.

711 nyc redneck  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:53:06pm

re: #682 loppyd

I heard on the radio that he slept in bed with her.

hmmmm,
ok.

i heard that the woman who was attacked had changed her hair do.
but who knows why it mauled her.

712 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:53:14pm

re: #705 Truck Monkey

Had one.

My sister had the blue one.

713 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:53:40pm

re: #691 gmsc

Sorry,I'm sitting here doing quotes and my fingers have a mind of their own

714 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:53:55pm

re: #699 gmsc

Does anybody else remember Toot-A-Loop radios?

Yes. I just had a plain old transistor with one earplug. My parents had a portable radio that opened in the back to reveal a turntable. Really.

715 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:54:00pm

re: #678 doppelganglander

My husband reports that a paperboy, circa 1973, came to their house and wondered out loud what was wrong with their television. It was black and white. His dad went out and bought a color TV the next day.


My folks didn't get a color TV until I left home. (who knew I was worth a color tv?)

716 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:54:04pm

re: #648 goddessoftheclassroom

That is SO weird: that song came into my head today, and I actually started singing it!

Careful about that.

Jimmy Hoffa's problem was that he kept singing ...
... ... "I wish I was an Oscar Meyer wiener..."

717 Luigi  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:54:07pm

GoogleEarth has released photos of US drones in an airbase in Pakistan. I just saw them on Fox News.

Now bear with me here as I think this through. 1) Pakistan may end cooperation with the US to mollify its Al Queda supporters as well as Al Queda itself. 2) These photos are going to make it harder to keep Pakistan cooperating with us. 3) The people who own Google are the biggest Obama supports in the world and .. 4) The people who own Google would never do anything that Obama doesn't want them to do.

I don't think any of the above statements are false. Why then am I seeing GoogleEarth pictures of US drones in a Pakistani airbase on Fox News?

718 MJ  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:54:32pm

New York Times libel suit settled:

Libel Suit Against The Times Ends

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

A Note to Readers

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Statement From Iseman’s Lawyers

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Joint Statement

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

719 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:54:56pm

re: #707 jcw46

SOOOO! It was YOU! Well, I can't cast any stones (at least not any big ones). Nixon and Ford messed a lot of peoples minds up. The media then was just as bad as now. Nixon was crook Ford was a stumblebum. Carter looked like a college professor. Too bad he was like an art history professor. Good for teaching art but not much else of use. Even his being in the US SubService wasn't all that. When the Iranians took over the Embassy AND he flubbed the rescue, that's when I said f**k it all.

Yep, my fault. ;) I toss it up to ignorance and naivete now. I loath Carter and am kind of shocked to see him associated with anything Navy. Particularly any nuclear subs and naming thereof. At the time I motivated by "environmental" issues. Now I'm motivated by almost the opposite: regulations, the Nanny state, spending, taxes, etc. Basically the opposite of Carter.

720 Killgore Trout  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:55:24pm

re: #704 Gus 802

Braird was really hamming it up for the cameras. John Kerry was the only one that went for the Israeli photo-op in front of the stacks of fired Palestinian missiles.

721 Truck Monkey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:55:31pm

I had a friend in school that took care of a monkey from the zoo from time to time and she would never let it out of the big cage in the basement. She used to tell me how dangerous they could be. The basement smelled like rank shit too. I wonder what the CT womans house smelled like. Chimpanzees certainly have their very own funk if not constantly washed and groomed.

722 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:55:55pm

re: #710 rightymouse

I dated a guy a long, long time ago who had a crazy mother who dressed up her dog and fed it at the dinner table in its own high-chair. Poor dog (poodle) was totally neurotic.

...but it had impeccable table manners. ;)

723 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:55:58pm

re: #717 Luigi

GoogleEarth has released photos of US drones in an airbase in Pakistan. I just saw them on Fox News.

Now bear with me here as I think this through. 1) Pakistan may end cooperation with the US to mollify its Al Queda supporters as well as Al Queda itself. 2) These photos are going to make it harder to keep Pakistan cooperating with us. 3) The people who own Google are the biggest Obama supports in the world and .. 4) The people who own Google would never do anything that Obama doesn't want them to do.

I don't think any of the above statements are false. Why then am I seeing GoogleEarth pictures of US drones in a Pakistani airbase on Fox News?

Because O wants plausible deniability when Pakistan kicks us out which prompts him to invade the country.

724 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:56:09pm

re: #692 FurryOldGuyJeans

My brother would record vinyl to 8 track, and the LOUD clunks on playback as the heads changed tracks drove me up the wall.


sshhh click sshsshh click shshshhs pop click sshshhsh click

there; bring back any old memories? :>)

725 avanti  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:56:14pm

re: #680 FurryOldGuyJeans

Still just complaining, eh? No solutions to fix the problems you gleefully kvetch about?

Not complaining, I'm happy as a clam. If he turns out to be a bad POTUS, I'll be as depressed as some others. It's as natural for a liberal President to be unpopular with a conservative crowd as the other way around.
Some day, some way, we might get one that makes both sides happy, but not the way we're divided now.

726 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:56:28pm

Speaking of primates gone wild:

(Via Hot Air)

A monkey gets loose at a zoo and the APB includes a description of the monkey's privates as a bright blue scrotum.

I sh*t you not.

727 gmsc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:56:45pm

re: #713 Shakey Jakey

Sorry,I'm sitting here doing quotes and my fingers have a mind of their own

Mind your fingers!
;)

728 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:56:51pm

re: #720 Killgore Trout

That's Kerry for you. Always attempting to play both sides of the fence. "I was for it before I was against it!"

729 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:57:22pm

re: #698 Truck Monkey

I believe that the Chimp was driving.

/covers head and runs away.


I HEARD he just wanted the car keys so he could go get some BEER!

730 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:57:24pm

re: #671 Gus 802

I voted for Car.. [cough]. Just once. Actually before that in intermediate school I was a Nixon kid. Used to have his stickers and bring them to school. I was the odd man out in that sense. Used to carry around Lou Drendel aircraft books and AF and Navy brochures.

Hell, I voted for Carter the first time. I think. I'm pretty sure that I did. I can't swear to it, because I smoked a lot of dope then.

Hummmmm. The mystery clears.

731 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:57:24pm

re: #719 Gus 802

I voted Ford, Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Perot, Perot, Bush, Bush, McCain.

732 doppelganglander  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:57:31pm

re: #715 jcw46

My folks didn't get a color TV until I left home. (who knew I was worth a color tv?)

My husband desperately wants a widescreen plasma HDTV or whatever it is they've got now. We probably can't afford it until the youngest graduates from college, and she's only a high school junior. Of course, she'll be mad that we'll buy it when she's not here to enjoy it.

733 UberInfidel67  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:57:59pm

re: #704 Gus 802
Can we refer to him as Keith Ellison (D)-Palestine?

734 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:58:00pm

re: #721 Truck Monkey

I had a friend in school that took care of a monkey from the zoo from time to time and she would never let it out of the big cage in the basement. She used to tell me how dangerous they could be. The basement smelled like rank shit too. I wonder what the CT womans house smelled like. Chimpanzees certainly have their very own funk if not constantly washed and groomed.

I read at the NY post web site this morning that she bathed and sleep with him..It was my first cup of coffee and I'll never get those two minutes back in my life again...

735 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:58:11pm

re: #717 Luigi

Photos are from '06.

Blame Bush.

736 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:58:20pm

re: #727 gmsc

LOL

737 stevieray  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:58:26pm

re: #645 Killian Bundy

I'd love to check out those articles, but I cannot get anything from the ABC news site to load.

Anybody else have that problem?

738 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:58:58pm

re: #709 HoosierHoops

Not sure..been watching 3-4 games on and off..But I know this..This may be the last time Duke plays ST. Johns for many years in NY. The reasons are many and somewhat complex..But don't expect this matchup for many years to come.

Mysterious!

739 USBeast  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:58:59pm

re: #710 rightymouse

I dated a guy a long, long time ago who had a crazy mother who dressed up her dog and fed it at the dinner table in its own high-chair. Poor dog (poodle) was totally neurotic.

The lady's name wasn't Hubbard by any chance?

740 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:59:03pm

re: #733 UberInfidel67

Can we refer to him as Keith Ellison (D)-Palestine?

Keith Ellison (H)

"H" for Hamas.

741 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:59:09pm

re: #725 avanti

So you just want to kvetch and complain. And here you keep wanting others to provide solutions so you can keep being a contemptible asshat.

742 Spiny Norman  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 4:59:23pm

re: #649 NonNativeTexan

65 Mustang. Was she hot too?

Not really. Kinda pudgy and frumpy - she was a very nice lady, though. I had a crush on her daughter for a while in the 8th grade.

Interestingly, I spoke with her daughter Laura at my 20 year HS reunion a few years back and she looked exactly like her mother did back then... so much so I was a little startled.

743 Russkilitlover  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:00:01pm

re: #699 gmsc

Does anybody else remember Toot-A-Loop radios?

Oh, gosh, yes! Mine was bright red. Used to plug in the ear piece and listen while playing with Light Brite.

744 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:00:20pm

re: #731 FurryOldGuyJeans

I voted for Nixon,Carter,Reagan,Reagan,Bush,Bush,Bush,Bush,
Mccain

745 razorbacker  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:00:42pm

See y'all later.

BTW, that motivational speech next thread is a hoot. I saw it somewhere earlier this wee.

746 Racer X  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:01:05pm

re: #686 Noam Sayin'

Holy Crap!

747 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:01:24pm

re: #744 Shakey Jakey

I voted for Nixon,Carter,Reagan,Reagan,Bush,Bush,Bush,Bush,
Mccain

Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, McCain.

748 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:01:47pm

re: #733 UberInfidel67

Can we refer to him as Keith Ellison (D)-Palestine?


Careful with that, at this rate they may become a state.

749 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:01:50pm

re: #719 Gus 802

Yep, my fault. ;) I toss it up to ignorance and naivete now. I loath Carter and am kind of shocked to see him associated with anything Navy. Particularly any nuclear subs and naming thereof. At the time I motivated by "environmental" issues. Now I'm motivated by almost the opposite: regulations, the Nanny state, spending, taxes, etc. Basically the opposite of Carter.


I'm motivated by environment issues too; MINE.

MY TRUCK, MY HOME, MY TOWN, MY STATE (well not my state, they're all a bunch of hosers except where I live).

750 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:02:14pm

re: #744 Shakey Jakey

I voted for Nixon,Carter,Reagan,Reagan,Bush,Bush,Bush,Bush,
Mccain

You're missing an election and voting for someone who wasn't running.

751 Soona'  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:02:27pm

re: #717 Luigi

GoogleEarth has released photos of US drones in an airbase in Pakistan. I just saw them on Fox News.

Now bear with me here as I think this through. 1) Pakistan may end cooperation with the US to mollify its Al Queda supporters as well as Al Queda itself. 2) These photos are going to make it harder to keep Pakistan cooperating with us. 3) The people who own Google are the biggest Obama supports in the world and .. 4) The people who own Google would never do anything that Obama doesn't want them to do.

I don't think any of the above statements are false. Why then am I seeing GoogleEarth pictures of US drones in a Pakistani airbase on Fox News?

I think this information was released/leaked purposely by this administration. It's just another calculation to start creating as much chaos in the world as possible.

752 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:02:54pm

re: #738 loppyd

Mysterious!

It's true cause ESPN says it's true...
/
{Loppyd}

753 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:03:07pm

re: #747 loppydre: #750 FurryOldGuyJeans

Which one?

754 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:03:50pm

re: #283 Russkilitlover

There is a difference between the spot prices and the forward contracts. The forward contracts have been over 40 now for a while. Anybody that does anything using oil except raw speculation will hedge out into the future to some extent. Oil for the near month went up about 9% today. Plus you also run into the crack spread problem. We export diesel (basically fuel oil for all practical purposes) to Europe and import gasoline from them. Brent has come loose from West Texas Intermediate (WTI) now for the past several months and WTI has gone down a lot more than Brent has. The gasoline imported from Europe will have Brent as its feedstock and so cost more to produce. You can fine tune the output of your crackers to some extent, but you still wind up producing some heavy products no matter what. The normal crude has some fairly long molecules in it. The ratio of hydrogen to carbon is lower than that in gasoline. You can push the hydrogen around to make benzene, heptane, octane, etc. but you produce carbon in the process. Fuel oil is one place that they park the carbon. The extreme case is asphalt and oil coke. Oil coke is damn near straight carbon and is used for some power plants near the refineries. Life ain't so simple as the spot and current month WTI prices would suggest.

755 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:03:52pm

re: #731 FurryOldGuyJeans

I voted Ford, Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Perot, Perot, Bush, Bush, McCain.

I'd have to think back here:

Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, N/A, N/A, Bush, McCain.

I skipped Clinton on the second round because I couldn't take him anymore. I also skipped Gore because I didn't like Gore and couldn't stand Lieberman.

After 9/11 I voted for "Bush for victory." My plan was to vote for the Republican nominee in the last election.

756 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:04:03pm

All: LudwigVanQuixote just posted the latest, slimmed-down, version of his evolution troll hammer. Links below go to the two parts, on the Missouri Creationist Bill thread.

re: #893 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #895 LudwigVanQuixote

757 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:04:06pm

re: #753 Shakey Jakey


Oh crap! Bob Dole

758 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:04:37pm

re: #747 loppyd

Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, McCain.

Skipping Dole, eh?

759 jcw46  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:04:40pm

re: #744 Shakey Jakey

I voted for Nixon,Carter,Reagan,Reagan,Bush,Bush,Bush,Bush,
Mccain


I thought you were gonna do a spam, spam, etc riff only with bush.

760 quickjustice  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:04:55pm

re: #721 Truck Monkey

I repeat what I said on another thread. There's a legal reason the cops and the owner are glossing over this chimp's previous attacks. If they knew the chimp was dangerous, or would attack people, yet did nothing, they're liable in a court of law for the consequences of what happened.

I'd say that a jury may not be sympathetic to this position. I know I'm not.

761 BenghaziHoops  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:05:00pm

re: #758 FurryOldGuyJeans

Skipping Dole, eh?

Dole ran?

762 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:05:07pm

re: #753 Shakey Jakey

re: #750 FurryOldGuyJeans

Which one?

I forgot Dole.

HW, HW, Dole, Bush, Bush, McCain

763 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:05:31pm

re: #758 FurryOldGuyJeans

Skipping Dole, eh?

Yep. How telling is that?

764 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:06:02pm

re: #752 HoosierHoops

It's true cause ESPN says it's true...
/
{Loppyd}

{Hoooosier Daddy}!

765 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:06:11pm

re: #753 Shakey Jakey

re: #750 FurryOldGuyJeans

Which one?

Dole was between the Bushes.

766 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:06:16pm

re: #759 jcw46

It's been a long day and even on the best of days I'm not that quick.Although I do love Spam.

767 NY Nana  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:06:19pm

re: #555 pre-Boomer Marine brat

About my carping?

/Hey, leave those carp alone! We will need them to make gefilte fish for Passover.

But there is always the carp in the bathtub. ;)

768 krisstingle  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:06:40pm

re: #667 avanti

That 60% needs to drop in here to get some doom and gloom to take the glow off. Heck, I need to step away with my Commie friends or I'll get depressed too./s In all seriousness, it's good to stay grounded and not get too hope and change infected. Here in a blue state, were mostly delighted, but it's a bubble of a different sort too.



Thankx Avanti, I'll stick with Furry on this one.

769 Throbert McGee  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:06:42pm

Flashback to second grade:

♪♫
My President has a first name,
It's J-I-M-M-Y!
My President has a second name,
It's C-A-R-T-E-R!
I hate to see him every day
And if you ask me why I'll saaaaay --
'Cause Jimmy Carter has a way
Of messin' up the U.S.A.!
♫♪

770 albusteve  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:06:49pm

re: #672 nyc redneck

no, should not have happened. this is a perfect example of people humanizing wild creatures and ignoring their vicious wild nature. i love animals, but there are many creatures that can not be domesticated and kept as a pet. this crazy woman put clothes on it and let it eat at the table.

uh oh, the narrator is in uganda now. where chimps have invaded villages and stolen human babies and killed and eaten them.
omg

taste like chicken?

771 loppyd  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:07:07pm

BBL

772 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:07:10pm

re: #761 HoosierHoops

Dole ran?

re: #763 loppyd

Yep. How telling is that?

I at least acknowledge I voted for Perot. ;)

773 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:07:40pm

I'm Bob Dole damn it!

774 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:08:03pm

re: #765 FurryOldGuyJeans

How telling is that. What I remember about that election is a Simpson's episode where dole and Clinton are abducted by aliens.

775 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:08:08pm

re: #768 krisstingle

Thankx Avanti, I'll stick with Furry on this one.

Stick me all you want.

776 SurferDoc  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:08:35pm

re: #686 Noam Sayin'

American Soldier lays it on the line to Iraqi police.


[Video]If I ever meet this dude, I'm buying him a steak and a beer.

I,000 updings are too few!

777 avanti  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:08:41pm

re: #717 Luigi

GoogleEarth has released photos of US drones in an airbase in Pakistan. I just saw them on Fox News.

Now bear with me here as I think this through. 1) Pakistan may end cooperation with the US to mollify its Al Queda supporters as well as Al Queda itself. 2) These photos are going to make it harder to keep Pakistan cooperating with us. 3) The people who own Google are the biggest Obama supports in the world and .. 4) The people who own Google would never do anything that Obama doesn't want them to do.

I don't think any of the above statements are false. Why then am I seeing GoogleEarth pictures of US drones in a Pakistani airbase on Fox News?

Google earth had nothing to do with it on purpose. Someone probably just started looking at the images near where the drones were mentioned to be last March. The base was located by tracing fuel shipments. It was no secret to anyone in the area, but Pakistan just pretended they did not know. Here's the report from the Pakistani
press..

778 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:08:47pm

re: #674 Killian Bundy

I wouldn't count on it, more likely another test of 7500.

/there's been no volume since Tuesday

A test of 7500 when we closed at 7,465.95?

We go through, say 7375, we have mui grande problemos.

779 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:08:58pm

re: #634 Gus 802

One of my first computers was a Unisys too. It had vacuum tubes.

780 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:09:12pm

re: #774 Shakey Jakey

How telling is that. What I remember about that election is a Simpson's episode where dole and Clinton are abducted by aliens.

And the animators could not keep Dole's cartoon pupils from wandering.

781 Shakey Jakey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:10:12pm

Good Night everyone

782 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:10:21pm

re: #777 avanti

You learned your talking points well.

783 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:10:38pm

re: #779 Shr_Nfr

One of my first computers was a Unisys too. It had vacuum tubes.

This one had thousands of arrays using electro magnets switches: 0/1. Might have had tubes somewhere but we weren't allowed in the room.

784 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:13:09pm

re: #722 Soona'

...but it had impeccable table manners. ;)

Uhhh..no..it didn't. lol!

Me to boyfriend - Honey, why is the puppy trying to eat at the table?

Boyfriend to me - Mom likes it that way.

Me to boyfriend - But it's in a high-chair, dressed up with a bib on. Wouldn't it be more comfortable on the floor on all fours eating from a bowl?

Boyfriend to me - Mom wants it this way.

Me to boyfriend - She's gonna hate me.

She did and the rest is history.

785 Mich-again  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:13:09pm

I'll be darned. Jimmy is really starting to look like his mom.

786 Spiny Norman  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:14:18pm

re: #769 Throbert McGee

Flashback to second grade:

♪♫
My President has a first name,
It's J-I-M-M-Y!
My President has a second name,
It's C-A-R-T-E-R!
I hate to see him every day
And if you ask me why I'll saaaaay --
'Cause Jimmy Carter has a way
Of messin' up the U.S.A.!
♫♪

Good one!

787 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:14:38pm

re: #785 Mich-again

I'll be darned. Jimmy is really starting to look like his mom.

Or a cross between a bulldog and a turtle.

788 Gus  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:15:03pm

Later folks.

789 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:15:54pm

re: #777 avanti

Google earth had nothing to do with it on purpose. Someone probably just started looking at the images near where the drones were mentioned to be last March. The base was located by tracing fuel shipments. It was no secret to anyone in the area, but Pakistan just pretended they did not know. Here's the report from the Pakistani
press..

Someone probably huh?

790 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:16:54pm

re: #739 USBeast

The lady's name wasn't Hubbard by any chance?


Nope.

791 pingjockey  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:17:49pm

Has jimmah loaned obambi his sweater yet?

792 avanti  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:17:58pm

re: #782 FurryOldGuyJeans

You learned your talking points well.

Goggle is my friend. Again, a perfect example of why I like LGF. Someone talks about a fox TV thing, I google news and find the Wall Street journal report today that we are working with Pakistan on the drones, something I did not know.

793 avanti  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:19:38pm

re: #789 brookly red

Someone probably huh?

Turned out to be the Wall Street Journal and not Fox`.

794 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:20:20pm
795 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:21:31pm

re: #793 avanti

Turned out to be the Wall Street Journal and not Fox`.

Hmmmm, interesting.

796 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:23:10pm

re: #726 loppyd

Speaking of primates gone wild:

(Via Hot Air)

A monkey gets loose at a zoo and the APB includes a description of the monkey's privates as a bright blue scrotum.

I sh*t you not.

Sounds like she was just describing a defining characteristic of the species, but you have to admit, it seems a bit silly.

"Calling all cars, calling all cars,
be on the lookout for a male primate with a bright blue scrotum."

Awkward males of all ages go scurrying back to their mother's basements.

797 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:23:18pm

re: #792 avanti

Goggle is my friend. Again, a perfect example of why I like LGF. Someone talks about a fox TV thing, I google news and find the Wall Street journal report today that we are working with Pakistan on the drones, something I did not know.


Uh...that was classified information that D. Feinstein blabbed about. Not the first time a pol Dem 'leaked' classified info that made its way into MSM. Leahy and Rockefeller come to mind in the not so distant past.

Nothing to be proud of, I assure you. In a different world, it's called treason, especially considering her position as Chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

798 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:23:57pm

re: #794 Iron Fist

Quick ammo report. the Girlfriend and I went to dinner at a hibachi steakhouse. MMMMMmmmmmm! Afterword, we stopped by Wally World on the neverending quest for ammunition. They had exactly one box of .357. No .45, 9mm. They had .40 S&W in quantity, and that was about it. A couple of boxes of less popular or widespread use (7mm-08, .243 Win. and things like that), and that was it. The dude at the counter said they didn't know when they would get more. All of their distributors were sold out.

I don't expect this to change in the near-term future. Maybe after the 2010 elections (assuming that the Democrats don't go for broke and try to outlaw everything).

check out cheaperthandirt.com (DRT Ammunnition)

799 avanti  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:25:20pm

re: #795 brookly red

Hmmmm, interesting.

OK, The Journal had the story this A.M. but Fox claims they got it from the London Times

800 UberInfidel67  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:27:12pm

re: #748 brookly red
I don't see that happening. The UNRWA would never give up it's golden calf.

801 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:27:38pm

re: #799 avanti

OK, The Journal had the story this A.M. but Fox claims they got it from the London Times

a foreign source, oh my. let's see where this goes.

802 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:29:15pm

re: #801 brookly red

a foreign source, oh my. let's see where this goes.


The mouth source was Senator Diane Feinstein.

803 avanti  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:30:12pm

re: #797 rightymouse

Uh...that was classified information that D. Feinstein blabbed about. Not the first time a pol Dem 'leaked' classified info that made its way into MSM. Leahy and Rockefeller come to mind in the not so distant past.

Nothing to be proud of, I assure you. In a different world, it's called treason, especially considering her position as Chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

The Pakistani drone report was leaked first by the NYT in March. The location of the base is new info as far as I know. I agree, that had she had leaked secret info, she would have lost her chair.

804 esch  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:31:55pm

re: #740 Gus 802

Keith Ellison (H)

"H" for Hamas.

Hey now. That's my rep you're talking about.

/puke

805 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:34:09pm

re: #800 UberInfidel67

I don't see that happening. The UNRWA would never give up it's golden calf.


Well congress has the authority to confer statehood... OK I agree it's far fetched, but look at our congress. Care to guess which way they would vote?///

806 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:36:07pm

re: #802 rightymouse

The mouth source was Senator Diane Feinstein.

well I guess its a non- issue then.

807 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:37:57pm

re: #803 avanti

The Pakistani drone report was leaked first by the NYT in March. The location of the base is new info as far as I know. I agree, that had she had leaked secret info, she would have lost her chair.

She publicly admitted this intelligence info when she could have stayed mum about it. Lose her chair? Surely you jest.

Has Rangel been thrown out for his misdeeds? Dodd? Frank? Leahy? Rockefeller? How about Burris?

Please.

Dems get a pass for the most awful things and it's people like you who look the other way but are the first ones to pounce on Reps gone bad.

Walk your own talk. We try to do that. Dems? Not so much.

808 Mirage  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:42:42pm

re: #657 albusteve

the poor woman knew the chimp well...she was certainly no stranger

Was it ever reported what set the chimp off?

809 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:42:42pm

re: #806 brookly red

well I guess its a non- issue then.


Try telling that to our admitted leftist poster Avanti.

810 KitchenQueen  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:44:44pm

Okay, did someone here pay Jimmah to endorse the stimulus?

/getting a good laugh at Carter thinking he's helping 0

811 brookly red  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:46:28pm

re: #809 rightymouse

Try telling that to our admitted leftist poster Avanti.


I think they got it.

812 rightymouse  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:49:47pm

re: #811 brookly red

I think they got it.


Okey-dokey.

Signing off now.

813 avanti  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:51:21pm

re: #809 rightymouse

Try telling that to our admitted leftist poster Avanti.

If she can't prove her statement that Washington Post broke the`story in March,she deserves to be investigated. I'll google the Post.

From your link:

Philip J. LaVelle, a spokesman for Feinstein, said her comment was based solely on previous news reports that Predators were operated from bases near Islamabad.

"We strongly object to Sen. Feinstein's remarks being characterized as anything other than a reference" to an article that appeared last March in the Washington Post, LaVelle said. Feinstein did not refer to newspaper accounts during the hearing.

814 FrogMarch  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 5:55:59pm

Welcome back, Carter.

815 [deleted]  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:00:35pm
816 avanti  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:04:06pm
If she can't prove her statement that Washington Post broke the`story in March,she deserves to be investigated. I'll google the Post.

Found the Post article on the drones in Pakistan from March

Having said that, her saying "It's my understanding" just helps confirm a press account that could have been denied.

817 Colonel Panik  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:13:25pm

re: #462 BigMoo

Believe it or not, the French (mainly Foreign Legion, but hey, it's the French Foreign Legion) in Afghanistan have excelled at anti-insurgent combat. My son is in theater and advises that they are practically having to restrain the French troops, who are showing 'impressive aggression'.
Go figure.

Taking out their frustrations since they can't whack the Car-B-Qing amateur Jihadis back home perhaps?

818 Dustyvet  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:29:50pm

Carter says he has “full confidence” in Obama’s proposal and expects it will take about six months for the economy to begin improving.


Yeah right, Jimmy still thinks that "Hamas plays well with others!"

/s

819 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:42:23pm

re: #586 rawmuse

And the music sucked too.

A lot of it did, but in 1977 the Grateful Dead were playing some of the best shows of their career, and Zappa had a marvelous band. There were a lot of bad hairstyles though.

820 KitchenQueen  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 6:45:42pm

re: #818 Dustyvet

Carter says he has “full confidence” in Obama’s proposal and expects it will take about six months for the economy to begin improving.
/s


Maybe the Obama administration should take Carter on as an official spokesman/talking head on the economy. Carter did such a great job when he was in charge, after all. It could be good entertainment value once in a while, too.

/and keep him busy and away from Hamas et. al.

821 Neo_  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 9:34:21pm
Last week Giulio Tremonti, Italy’s finance minister and Mr. Geithner’s host for the weekend, gave a tart review of the Obama administration’s stimulus in a local newspaper here.

If the problem is an excess of debt, the cure is not adding more debt, whether that debt is public or private,” he wrote in the Corriere della Sera

How did Obama go and pass a "stimulus" bill without first consulting with our (obviously smarter) European allies. There goes the image of America down the toilet due to unilateral cowboy actions of an inexperienced POTUS.

822 Wendya  Thu, Feb 19, 2009 11:51:36pm

re: #803 avanti

The Pakistani drone report was leaked first by the NYT in March. The location of the base is new info as far as I know. I agree, that had she had leaked secret info, she would have lost her chair.

Was it leaked by an anonymous source or a freaking US Senator?

Do you see a difference?

823 Sensible Remnant  Fri, Feb 20, 2009 7:18:56am

Re Carter endorsing Obama economic plan: in a related news development, Charles Manson endorses Octo Mom's thoughtful sensible decision making
and good common sense in her life choices.

824 Ron Shaw  Fri, Feb 20, 2009 9:05:28am

Yep, feel better already in anticipation of those glorious days of runaway interest rates in the high teens, oil embargoes and Iran doing exactly what they want against the Great Satan. Obama will crumble faster than Carter did!
But, on the even more pathetic side, Carter finally found a fellow mind, heart and soul sojourner with whom to hate and hopefully destroy America.

825 Sifty  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 2:39:00pm

I wouldn't let Jimmy Carter mow my lawn.


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“Did You Even READ the Piece?” This Startup Wants to Make That Question Obsolete for Commentors Let’s be honest: Are you going to read this or skim this? In a land of feeds, tidbits, and bullet points, readers don’t often get to the end of a piece — let alone absorb each sentence along the ...
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Young the Giant: Simplify (Official Audio) Young The Giant's official audio for their new single 'Simplify' - available now. Download / Stream 'Simplify': lnk.to Catch Young The Giant on Tour this fall with very special guest Lights!More info at: youngthegiant.com Site: youngthegiant.comFacebook: facebook.comTwitter: @youngthegiantInstagram: instagram.comYouTube: ...
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Traveller - ‘Nobody Makes It Out’ (Live at WFUV)wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Traveller performs "Nobody Makes It Out" live in Studio A. Recorded 5.9.18. Host: Alisa AliAudio: Caroline InzucchiCameras: Kristal Ho, Brian Gallagher & Kaylee KurkierewiczEditors: Kaylee Kurkierewicz & Brian Gallagher
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Fantastic Negrito - the Duffler (Official Video) ‘The Duffler’ is taken from Fantastic Negrito's brand new album 'Please Don't Be Dead' out now. Order your copy here: fn.lnk.to Director: Freddy Macdonald Producer: Fred MacdonaldCinematographer: Sebastian KlingerEditor: Freddy MacdonaldProduction Company: Macdonald Entertainment Partners Check here for Fantastic ...
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Facebook’s Screening for Political Ads Nabs News Sites… One ad couldn’t have been more obviously political. Targeted to people aged 18 and older, it urged them to “vote YES” on June 5 on a ballot proposition to issue bonds for schools in a district near San Francisco. ...
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Stanford Prison Experiment: Why Famous Psychology Studies Are Now Being Torn Apart Sometimes pseudoscience makes it through to the text books, most often in the soft and social sciences. A new exposé based on previously unpublished recordings of Philip Zimbardo, the Stanford psychologist who ran the study, and interviews with his ...
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Goliath Season 2 - Official Trailer In Season 2 of Goliath, Billy McBride takes on a new case, and the fight spills into the streets of Los Angeles and alleys of Venice Beach.Goliath returns 6/15 on Prime Video. » Stream Goliath 6/15 on Prime Video: ...
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