Chicken Little with a radio show.

I'm glad I stopped paying for that nonsense.

I've always tried not to criticize FOX to much, but I got to admit it's getting to the point that I am getting my TV news from the BBC. And we all know what the BBC is like.

and Gold is gonna be $8,000 an ounce too in a few years

sweeet

Repent! For the glenn is nigh!

As a designer of buildings, with no buildings to design at the moment, I really don't appreciate the doom talk.

I still enjoy FOX Business and I think Special Report with Brett Baier is OK but the rest of the programming on FOXNews frankly sucks.

And I gave up glue sniffing this week!

Charles, don't forget the "King of the Hill", O'Really.

re: #7 Jetpilot1101

I still enjoy FOX Business and I think Special Report with Brett Baier is OK but the rest of the programming on FOXNews frankly sucks.

Yeah Brett Baier is OK, but I do miss Brit Hume.

I don't understand why Beck was even discussing this. This has absolutely nothing to do with Kaleigh Anthony

re: #9 jorline

Charles, don't forget the "King of the Hill", O'Really.

No please lets forget him. Please.

re: #12 Nevergiveup

"Nose pin zone."

re: #10 Nevergiveup

re: #7 Jetpilot1101

Yeah Brett Baier is OK, but I do miss Brit Hume.

I don't even tune in until the round table with Krauthammer starts.

I miss John Gibson at the 5 PM slot. He was pretty good

Me too. Hannity's diatribe is sickening.

re: #13 Iron Fist

Guns and ammunition will be worth their weight in gold. Or more. What good is 20 pounds of gold, really? Steel, copper, and brass are the investment for the future.

:-)

don't forget the technology to process (reprocess?) them

A friend of mine in the States said Glenn Beck makes her scared and thats why she has stopped watching it. But honestly I think Glenn Beck has been much better since he left CNN.

Hannity is doing a lot better without that guy Alan Dumbs, IMO.

Sometimes you feel like a nut...

... sometimes you are one.

Glenn is having his "Network" moment.

Glenn Beck is a poor mans Alex Jones. He sounds nuttier everyday.

I like Red Eye. I also admit watching the clips of Hannity and O'Reilly every day. I don't always agree with them and sometimes they get tedious, but name a show that doesn't have these problems. Glen Beck is clearly a sensationalist, which draws eyeballs, but I don't see him heading for a bomb shelter himself.

re: #14 Ojoe

"Nose pin zone."

upding for the pun

Don't blame it all on poor Glenn. Our Supreme Leader has been warning us about doom and gloom for a month now. I got even gloomier when the "Stimulus (er, porkubus) package was passed. This means I will have to work forever, cause I can't see the Stock Market coming back to life when everyone is afraid to walk out the front door. Of course, since we all are "cowards," we might as well stay home and mope.

And lets not forget the thing that the 101st should have dropped out of a chopper?

Fox News: Doing their best to undermine Republicans one host at a time.

WTF Fox, we lost an election, it's not the end of the world. Get a grip.

Fox is slowly becoming the caricature that the left has accused them of being. Glenn Beck is such a lightweight intellect. O'Reilly is just a rabble-rouser. Hannity is little more than a tv evangelist. Some of the weekend shows are OK. I like Fox News Watch and that WSJ show.

re: #25 Bloodnok

Fox News: Doing their best to undermine Republicans one host at a time.

They're a moby news network.

like huckabee show would not want him anywere near the gov't though.

re: #7 Jetpilot1101

I still enjoy FOX Business and I think Special Report with Brett Baier is OK but the rest of the programming on FOXNews frankly sucks.

Jetpilot1101 -

Frankly, I Miss TONY SNOW.

-S-

re: #27 kingkenrod

Neal Cavuto is pretty good.

The end is nigh alright. His show is about to get cancelled.

Just a thought.

Hey, something hit me in the head the other day.
I'm pretty sure it came from the sky. Well, I think it came from the sky.
It hit me on the top of my head. It was blue and white, just like the sky.
Well, I think it was blue and white. I didn't get a good look at it.

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!

(Does it matter if I was drinking when this happened?)

/chicken little off

re: #7 Jetpilot1101

I still enjoy FOX Business and I think Special Report with Brett Baier is OK but the rest of the programming on FOXNews frankly sucks.

Me too. But I confess to liking Beck, until he gets on a religious rant. He had some pretty good guests on that show, and emphasized that he was not suggesting that they think any of this stuff will actually happen. I think it's more a matter of "the reason you don't do [put any major Obama policy here] is that really bad things can eventually happen." Are we really arguing with that?

as bad as fox can be the rest of the MSM is so much worse.

re: #31 jaunte

Neal Cavuto is pretty good.

Best man on Fox. Cavuto --- as far as I can tell.

It's fascinating how quickly the right turned into hysterical moonbats. It started before the election so simply losing the presidency isn't the real cause. Conservative news outlets are pushing highly questionable stories and right wing blogs are inventing conspiracy theories. The koskidz today were debating the real world implications of the Geneva Convention. Go figure.

re: #16 Infidel_Jim

Might as well watch Olberman as Hannity.

re: #31 jaunte

Neal Cavuto is pretty good.

I still like Neil. He may be the only sane and reasonable voice left on that network.

re: #31 jaunte

Neal Cavuto is pretty good.

I will agree with that.

I’ve pretty much stopped watching since it became the network of Mike Huckabee, Pat Buchanan, and all Hannity, all the time.

I still find Fox the most watchable of the MSM stations. That said you forgot Geraldo. Really if it wasn't for Fox News Sunday I probably wouldn't watch the MSM stations at all.

re: #37 Killgore Trout

It's fascinating how quickly the right turned into hysterical moonbats. It started before the election so simply losing the presidency isn't the real cause. Conservative news outlets are pushing highly questionable stories and right wing blogs are inventing conspiracy theories. The koskidz today were debating the real world implications of the Geneva Convention. Go figure.

It's the power vacuum. The worst are full of passionate intensity...

Well, it is stimulating sales of certain commodities. The ammo shelves in Wal-Mart are empty. My local Army-Navy surplus store is doing a brisk business, especially in surplus MRE's. There's wasn't a lot of bottled water in Costco today, either, come to think of it. Funny, that./

re: #24 Nevergiveup

And lets not forget the thing that the 101st should have dropped out of a chopper?

You mean Geraldo Rivera? I don't think your proposed punishment is severe enough. I'd lock Rivera up in Al Capone's vault and leave him there.

/kidding

re: #39 Sharmuta

Yes, I wish he had a prime time show focused on economic issues.

Ooooh. I'm watching it now.

Glenn Beck...

The Fox News version of Alex Jones.

I do believe in an appropriate level of preparation for for all manner of possibilities. Having said that, Beck's scenario of our cities turning into 'Mad Max' type war zones is creepy and dishonest.

re: #28 Sharmuta

They're a moby news network.

They are. They're trying to "out-MSNBC" MSNBC.

FOX becoming the Air America of the right?

re: #32 Gus 802

The end is nigh alright. His show is about to get cancelled.

Just a thought.

I hope so. Good riddance.

Is it irresponsible for Fox News to be airing this over the top, creepy alarmist stuff during a financial crisis? Well, yeah, I think so.

I think so as well. The economic system of ours is based on confidence in the currency. Not that the media need to be cheerleaders, but going out of their way to spread panic in times like these is like tossing lit matches into dry brush.

I have no use for Fox News anymore. I can not stand Sean Hannity for even a minute. He is a dimwit whose only skill is repeating slogans and cliches. He couldn't win a debate against a smart 8th grader. As for Bill O'Reilly, he's another windbag attention whore.

I stopped watching Fox a couple of months ago. Since pretty much all I watch is (was) Fox and sometimes the Weather Channel (when I think it might snow or hurricane on me), I have not turned it on much. One day off, I made a concerted effort to watch something, and I ended up watching a Dog Bounty Hunter marathon. What got me hooked was Beth maneuvering Dog into showing up for their wedding, combined with her spectacular figure being fitted for a wedding gown.

re: #35 yochanan

as bad as fox can be the rest of the MSM is so much worse.

that reminds me. When I was in college Sports Illustrated ranked the top 20 drinking schools in the country. Mine was not on the list but had an asterisk next to it at the bottom of the page. They said they would have ranked my school, but they didn't think it would be fair to rank professionals with amateurs. We took that as a badge of honor.

I can't stop laughing at the Bubble Head Blonde, Gretchen hiding under the coffee table!
What a ditz!
This is my philosophy on Survivalism through the prolonged recession/depression; Prepare for the worse, and have no regrets. Better safe than sorry.

re: #35 yochanan

as bad as fox can be the rest of the MSM is so much worse.

Without Fox there would be no semi-rational voice in the televised media. Yeah, it's sometimes sensational, but it is 10x better than anything else. If you don't like Fox, go spend 10 minutes listening to Brian Williams. You'll be back.

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

re: #24 Nevergiveup

You mean Geraldo Rivera? I don't think your proposed punishment is severe enough. I'd lock Rivera up in Al Capone's vault and leave him there.

/kidding

Put him in a room with NO mirrors.

Check out the comments at hot air. Many seem eager for the civil war to begin, stocking up on ammo and quoting the bible.

I like how Michael Savage describes the fox news nightly lineup

From a loofah to Aruba

re: #45 jaunte

Yes, I wish he had a prime time show focused on economic issues.

Not that would be change I could believe in!

re: #37 Killgore Trout

It's fascinating how quickly the right turned into hysterical moonbats. It started before the election so simply losing the presidency isn't the real cause. Conservative news outlets are pushing highly questionable stories and right wing blogs are inventing conspiracy theories. The koskidz today were debating the real world implications of the Geneva Convention. Go figure.

Oh come on.

Some folks will just need their moment of hysteria. We'll get it back together.

re: #50 jorline

Yup.

re: #22 Mr Spiffy

re: #14 Ojoe

upding for the pun

I second that upding!

I believe Beck is a Mormon. And I also think Mormons try to keep a year supply of food based on some sort of "End Times" belief. So his viewpoint is obviously biased based on his religion. Take the stuff he says with a grain of salt the size of Salt Lake!

re: #37 Killgore Trout

It's fascinating how quickly the right turned into hysterical moonbats. It started before the election so simply losing the presidency isn't the real cause. Conservative news outlets are pushing highly questionable stories and right wing blogs are inventing conspiracy theories. The koskidz today were debating the real world implications of the Geneva Convention. Go figure.

It's alarming and I will disassociate myself from more and more of what is considered "the right" if it gets much worse.

re: #57 Globular Cluster

Without Fox there would be no semi-rational voice in the televised media. Yeah, it's sometimes sensational, but it is 10x better than anything else. If you don't like Fox, go spend 10 minutes listening to Brian Williams. You'll be back.

I agree but it's still fun to bitch about FOX.

I watched his show long enough to see that the powers that be at Fox felt it necessary to put up a disclaimer that the situations described were only predictions and not ACTUAL news, and that discretion was advised. I promptly used some discretion, and turned the damned TV off.

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Check out the comments at hot air. Many seem eager for the civil war to begin, stocking up on ammo and quoting the bible.

Allahpundit hasn't beaten that out of them with his unrelenting atheism yet?

He's really dropping the ball.

I gave up on the lounge Sharmuta, I have no idea what the issue is. I'll tell ya later.

For 8 years Fox has criticized the left for talking down the economy for political purposes -- now the hypocrites are doing it themselves.

re: #61 Sharmuta

Not that would be change I could believe in!

Sorry! That should be "Now". I think Neil in prime time would be awesome.

Hot Air comment...

Glenn soft-pedaled the extent of the crisis in this country. The mob and the elites are looting it and our “representitives” are helping them. The media is a propaganda machine and the elections are rigged.

People who have been responsible and played by the rules are being mocked by an illegitimate government that rewards incompetence to buy votes. And the people are coming to realize it.

The nation is a powder keg. Just one good spark will do it.

AP needs to crack down, it's an insane asylum over there.

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Check out the comments at hot air. Many seem eager for the civil war to begin, stocking up on ammo and quoting the bible.

Yep. It's getting ugly over there.

re: #71 MrPaulRevere

Paul,

Have you tried upgrading your version of Java?

Get a grip, Glenn.

And Lou Dobbs, Charles. Don't forget Lou Dobbs.

re: #11 Shug

I don't understand why Beck was even discussing this. This has absolutely nothing to do with Kaleigh Anthony

Exactly.

I'm no fan of FOX but the second vid struck me as quite plausible on both counts...Mexico is in very deep shit and Bibi swore he'd deal Hamas a death blow and is certainly capable of denying Iran a nuke...Iran will retaliate in some fashion...bad rabbits both

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Check out the comments at hot air. Many seem eager for the civil war to begin, stocking up on ammo and quoting the bible.

Oh dear Lord, that's just insane. Obama's an idiot, he might just get us another Islamic terrorist attack, but talk of civil war is a little nutso.

It's much better to have a revolution, IMHO, where we turn over almost 100% of the House and almost all of the 1/3rd of the Senate up for re-election in 2010.

re: #75 Charles

Well I got my ammo because I anticipated attempted restrictions on my ability to get it in the future not on any real chance of a civil war.

I wonder if Glenn will blame video games when he loses his job...

re: #72 Thanos

For 8 years Fox has criticized the left for talking down the economy for political purposes -- now the hypocrites are doing it themselves.

So you don't think sustained criticism of the stimulus bill has value? Funny, everyone here watches Fox and nobody seems to be panicking.

re: #53 Iron Fist

Heh. I have 3 cap and ball revolvers. Strikes me that in an apocalyptic environment those charcoal burners might be quite useful. Simple in construction, with easily replicable ammo.

Knew there was a reason for having them.

re: #57 Globular Cluster

Without Fox there would be no semi-rational voice in the televised media. Yeah, it's sometimes sensational, but it is 10x better than anything else. If you don't like Fox, go spend 10 minutes listening to Brian Williams. You'll be back.

"GC" -

Reminds me of the recently repeated story about "the goat" - H/T to PJ Media. Go there, read it and you will understand.

-S-

Well over 90% of the comments at Hot Air agree with Beck. That's a problem.

People are letting their emotions get the better of them, because of the economy and because traditional conservatism has been taking kicks to the groin for about 3 years now. I think people are worried the slide isn't going to stop.

re: #79 Salamantis

And Lou Dobbs, Charles. Don't forget Lou Dobbs.

I saw him the other day go bat-shit crazy over some case in Wisconsin (?) in which a man was wrongfully (according to Dobbs) convicted of some sort of gun violation.

re: #85 Globular Cluster

So you don't think sustained criticism of the stimulus bill has value? Funny, everyone here watches Fox and nobody seems to be panicking.

While I'm only online now because I ran a cable from the house to my bomb shelter under the backyard.
/

Oh cripes. The Civil War, WWI, WWII, The Great Depression, Influenze, Polio... Millions upon millions dead. Strife, famine, death and suffering. The Cold War when we had a very large gun pointed to our heads and a hair trigger away from complete and utter world destruction; a nuclear winter.

I think things aren't very good now but we've been though far worse.

I'm typo city tonight.

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Well over 90% of the comments at Hot Air agree with Beck. That's a problem.

The nuts who got the boot here went to Hot Air and other sites (as well as making up their own). I congratulate Charles for maintaining order here.

Robert Baer. He's got Bob (appease Iran) Baer on as an expert.

Baer has clearly gone AWOL ... at best.

re: #93 Gus 802

Oh cripes. The Civil War, WWI, WWII, The Great Depression, Influenze, Polio... Millions upon millions dead. Strife, famine, death and suffering. The Cold War when we had a very large gun pointed to our heads and a hair trigger away from complete and utter world destruction; a nuclear winter.

I think things aren't very good now but we've been though far worse.

Well not sure about that. the spread of WMDs to rogue countries scares me.

re: #91 MandyManners

I saw him the other day go bat-shit crazy over some case in Wisconsin (?) in which a man was wrongfully (according to Dobbs) convicted of some sort of gun violation.

a guy was planting a tree in his yard when the cops pulled up and took his pistol from him illegally...I'd go bat shit crazy too

re: #66 Steve Rogers

I believe Beck is a Mormon. And I also think Mormons try to keep a year supply of food based on some sort of "End Times" belief. So his viewpoint is obviously biased based on his religion. Take the stuff he says with a grain of salt the size of Salt Lake!

maybe that explains the large jar of M&M's on his desk

I didn't know he was a mormon but I know he's an alcoholic

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Check out the comments at hot air. Many seem eager for the civil war to begin, stocking up on ammo and quoting the bible.

Crap, do people even read history books anymore? A civil war in the United States would be an outright disaster for the country and the rest of the world.

re: #82 Honorary Yooper

It's much better to have a revolution, IMHO, where we turn over almost 100% of the House and almost all of the 1/3rd of the Senate up for re-election in 2010.

But that will take planning, effort, focus hard work and (GASP!) admitting some of the right's own dirty laundry. It's much easier to latch on to conspiracy theories, gnash teeth and wail to the heavens.
/

Don't look in his eyes or you be HYP-NO-TIZED!

re: #77 unclassifiable

Thanks, that should have occurred to me.

re: #98 albusteve

a guy was planting a tree in his yard when the cops pulled up and took his pistol from him illegally...I'd go bat shit crazy too

Interesting story.

On Tuesday, Krause won acquittal in what some advocates say is one of the first so-called open-carry gun cases heard in a Wisconsin court.

Municipal Judge Paul Murphy said he had reviewed several state statutes and court cases related to the right to keep and bear arms. "There being no law whatsoever dealing with the issue of an unconcealed weapon or the so-called open carry is why we're here today," Murphy said.

[Link: www.jsonline.com...]

re: #88 ploome hineni

FKN INSANE

The Obama administration has given the Palestinian Authority a "green light" to talk to Hamas about forming a Palestinian unity government, a PA official in Ramallah said over the weekend.

and I say, let the Taliban and the Pakistan government form a Unity party

They already have, it's called "JI" you can guess what the initials stand for I suspect.

re: #97 Nevergiveup

Well not sure about that. the spread of WMDs to rogue countries scares me.

We'll have to see how that evolves. At this point that's just a developing situation. We can act now to prevent this either militarily or diplomatically.

The only "doom and gloom" prediction I have is that the GOP will continue to marginalize itself into irrelevance if its members insist on pimping the Becks, Coulters, O'Reillys, Jindals, etc., as their "best and brightest" of the conservative movement.

From now on, when I see someone who contributes no comments, but only logs on to down-ding posts and comments, they're going to lose their accounts. This is BS.

re: #108 Slumbering Behemoth

The only "doom and gloom" prediction I have is that the GOP will continue to marginalize itself into irrelevance if its members insist on pimping the Becks, Coulters, O'Reillys, Jindals, etc., as their "best and brightest" of the conservative movement.

Then it's time for a Roto-Rooter of the party from the ground up, or a splinter that'll do away with the nuts.

re: #85 Globular Cluster

re: #72 Thanos

So you don't think sustained criticism of the stimulus bill has value? Funny, everyone here watches Fox and nobody seems to be panicking.

Glenn's not attacking the stimulus bill, he's sowing unreasonable panic and fear at a time when we don't need that.

...back from stimulating the economy. It was a very nice dinner out.

re: #107 Gus 802

We'll have to see how that evolves. At this point that's just a developing situation. We can act now to prevent this either militarily or diplomatically.

Yeah? How? Ya mean like this?

France to send top envoy to Iran for talks on nuclear program

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

OK, I feel better now?

re: #109 Charles

From now on, when I see someone who contributes no comments, but only logs on to down-ding posts and comments, they're going to lose their accounts. This is BS.

Something going on we should know?

re: #109 Charles

Is this done by many, or just a few?

Not complaining, but I am curious. Strikes me as pretty cowardly, really.

re: #114 Nevergiveup

Something going on we should know?

no

re: #108 Slumbering Behemoth

Try the Modern Whig party

Modern Whig Party

You might check to see if "secret squirrel" and "foxsecret" are one and the same...

re: #66 Steve Rogers

I believe Beck is a Mormon. And I also think Mormons try to keep a year supply of food based on some sort of "End Times" belief. So his viewpoint is obviously biased based on his religion. Take the stuff he says with a grain of salt the size of Salt Lake!

I would instead take the fact that he is a Mormon with a grain of salt, and that is because Mitt Romney is also Mormon, and in fact, so is Harry Reid! If that doesn't show some diversity, what does?

Mormons are encouraged to have food supplies for hard times, such as unemployment and natural disasters. I know the belief is that these are the latter days (hence the actual name of the church), but I don't personally know any rabid end times Mormons, unless you include Beck. Beck, I believe, is a lot of showmanship. I confess I haven't watched him of late, so hadn't seen this latest "meltdown."

re: #101 Bloodnok

It's much better to have a revolution, IMHO, where we turn over almost 100% of the House and almost all of the 1/3rd of the Senate up for re-election in 2010.

But that will take planning, effort, focus hard work and (GASP!) admitting some of the right's own dirty laundry. It's much easier to latch on to conspiracy theories, gnash teeth and wail to the heavens.
/

You forgot: and then wonder why we're losing.

If Beck really thought that there was any chance of civil war he'd take his millions and buy an island in the Caribbean. He's full of shit but he knows his stupid and scared audience will eat this stuff up. He's like Mikey Moore, bilking his audience out of money while making them dumber. It's reprehensible.

re: #116 albusteve

no

You sound like my wife

re: #10 Nevergiveup

Yeah Brett Baier is OK, but I do miss Brit Hume.

* * *
Britt Hume is around, as are heavy hitters Charles Krauthammer, Katherine Herridge, Eric Shawn, Fred Barnes, Bill Sammon, lots of sober reasonable JOURNALISTS. The others you despise are OPINION people--infotainment.

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Perhaps Hot Air needs to clean house; or the sane folks need to hoof it. Fight insanity, or leave it; don't endorse it with your presence (figurative "you").

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Well over 90% of the comments at Hot Air agree with Beck. That's a problem.

They been HYP-NO-TIZED!

Beck has demonstrated too much emotional lability to be credible going forward. He's a recovering alcoholic/drug addict that converted to Mormonism, probably to keep from killing himself. He reached a breaking point when after a hemorrhoidectomy, he recorded himself contemplating suicide then broadcast it on YouTube. He cracks up on-air to the point of it being a regular feature of his show. He admits he doesn't sleep much and now his hands are shaking from "fear" of what's coming. He's definitely got some ADD/OCD/anxiety issues.

He needs: 1) a vacation, 2) biweekly professional therapy, and 3) regular 8 hours of REM-complete sleep.

Glenn, throttle back and take care of yourself. You're no good to the cause as a basket case.

re: #117 Ojoe

Try the Modern Whig party

Modern Whig Party

I'm seriously thinking of contributing and joining up...nothing ventured nothing eh?

re: #123 alegrias

I liked Brit Hume.

re: #4 Shug

and Gold is gonna be $8,000 an ounce too in a few years

sweeet

And a loaf of bread will only cost $100.

re: #122 Nevergiveup

You sound like my wife

maybe I am...go wash your face

re: #108 Slumbering Behemoth

I agree. I'm sticking with my prediction that Obama is going to be a two term President.

re: #30 Dr. Shalit

Jetpilot1101 -

Frankly, I Miss TONY SNOW.

-S-

Frankly, I miss Julie Banderas. (Even though she's only been off the air for a couple hours.)

re: #100 Idle Drifter

Crap, do people even read history books anymore? A civil war in the United States would be an outright disaster for the country and the rest of the world.

For what? Most are too consumed with "feeling" that they are now 'Part of History' because they pulled the lever for Obama!

20 years from now, I doubt you'll find 10 people willing to admit they did, however. Ask most of the Nixon or Carter eras and you won;t find many that admit voting for either of them. (for the record, i voted FOR Nixon 2nd term, my 1st eligible national election, I did NOT vote for Carter)

re: #109 Charles

From now on, when I see someone who contributes no comments, but only logs on to down-ding posts and comments, they're going to lose their accounts. This is BS.

Bunch of haters.

Archie- check your email.

re: #129 Haverwilde

...and it will be 60% bread 25% sawdust and 15% ?

re: #130 albusteve

maybe I am...go wash your face

No that was my mother?

Folks, the talk about "civil war" is piffle. We do not have near the level of unrest in this country that we had in the 60's--and we were far closer to ripping ourselves to shreds then than we are now.

On the other hand, the concept of a revolution was more remote in the 1930's. People were more afraid of one than actively plotted. Study your history and you will see that things are not that bad. People are scared now. We have a generation of boomers on the verge of retiring and now they can't. Money is tight. But we will get on the other side of this and we will all be the better for it.

Tell that to any doom-sayers you see.

Meanwhile, ACORN is taking back the housing market.

Acorn Breaks into Home

Some community activists could face criminal charges after breaking into a home in Southeast Baltimore.

Police were at the home Thursday night looking for fingerprints and other evidence.

The activists who staged the break-in belong to the Association of Community Organizations For Reform Now or ACORN.

After snapping a lock with bolt cutters, ACORN member Louis Beverly told supporters "this is our house now."

ACORN staged the demonstration to protest the foreclosure crisis sweeping the nation.

The home in the 300 block of Ellwood Avenue used to be owned by Donna Hanks. She lost this home in September, after owning it since 2001. When things got tough she struggled to make her payments. Her mortgage? $1995 a month. Her income? $2200. Donna's story is one that ACORN is taking a stand against.

I'm sorry, we're supposed to have sympathy for someone who takes out a a $1995 a month mortgage on $2200 in income? Gee, think that's maybe a little too much house there?

Stimulus Includes $2 Billion in Neighborhood Stabilization Fund

Those advocates will be happy to learn that the final compromise bill includes $2 billion for the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. That’s less than the $4.2 billion passed by the House, but surely better than nothing. After all, it was the housing crisis at the root of this recession.

Is anyone stupid enough to believe that a sizable chunk of that $2 billion won't go to ACORN? That'll pay for a whole lot more illegal break ins, trespassing, and squatters.

/your tax dollars at work

Winston? You still here? I got caught up in a movie. Sorry. I will wait until tomorrow to learn an new bad word from you : )

re: #109 Charles

From now on, when I see someone who contributes no comments, but only logs on to down-ding posts and comments, they're going to lose their accounts. This is BS.

It might be amusing to limit down-dings to the total number of posts.

Up dings are free, but down-dings will cost you.

re: #109 Charles

From now on, when I see someone who contributes no comments, but only logs on to down-ding posts and comments, they're going to lose their accounts. This is BS.

Thank you!

Personally - I never ding down a comment without responding with a rebuttal.

re: #59 Killgore Trout

Check out the comments at hot air. Many seem eager for the civil war to begin, stocking up on ammo and quoting the bible.

Aw c'mon KT, cut 'em some slack. This is the huge and mighty socon base that without which we couldn't elect a single politician. Maybe they're on to something.
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re: #117 Ojoe

Try the Modern Whig party

Modern Whig Party

I agree with everything they stand for, and their slogan reminds me of Festivis.

re: #27 kingkenrod

Fox is slowly becoming the caricature that the left has accused them of being. Glenn Beck is such a lightweight intellect. O'Reilly is just a rabble-rouser. Hannity is little more than a tv evangelist. Some of the weekend shows are OK. I like Fox News Watch and that WSJ show.

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Paul Gigot is fantastic, as are his guests from the Wall Street Journal. Poor guy used to work on PBS's McNeil Lehrer Newshour with that now crazy unhinged Bush hater democrat Mark Sheilds.

re: #126 Sol Roth

That pretty much sums it up.
When I saw what this episode of Beck was about I turned it off. I'm not in the mood.

re: #139 Killian Bundy

I'm sorry, we're supposed to have sympathy for someone who takes out a a $1995 a month mortgage on $2200 in income?

Wassamatter for you. You can't live on $205 a month? what are you, some kinda spendthrift !?!?!?!?

re: #131 Killgore Trout

I'll join this bandwagon. Michael Steele hasn't done a damned thing to assure me he's going to turn the party around. His public statements thus far have amounted to "the Republican party needs a new ad campaign". We're stuck for now.

re: #110 Honorary Yooper

re: #117 Ojoe

I'd much prefer to repair the GOP brand, but if they insist on leaving me behind I'll have to go somewhere.

re: #117 Ojoe

re: #108 Slumbering Behemoth

Try the Modern Whig party

I hope that any third party in 2012 would not contribute to a Democrat victory by splitting the right-wing vote. 1992 and H. Ross Perot come to mind.

re: #121 Killgore Trout

If Beck really thought that there was any chance of civil war he'd take his millions and buy an island in the Caribbean. He's full of shit but he knows his stupid and scared audience will eat this stuff up. He's like Mikey Moore, bilking his audience out of money while making them dumber. It's reprehensible.

I'm not so sure about that. I get the feeling Glenn thinks he will get the elevator ride up come Armageddon.

re: #111 Thanos

Glenn's not attacking the stimulus bill, he's sowing unreasonable panic and fear at a time when we don't need that.

I was talking about Fox in general. As for Beck, his is not my favorite show, but I don't think anybody can watch his comedic gestures and not realize he is he is acting the clown. What really sows fear is not Beck, but ultra-serious pundits who "objectively" point to "facts" and "history". Look at the constant talk about the Great Depression. Hannity takes the pundits to task over this all the time. Have we reached 30% unemployment? Have we seen a a drop in GDP for 3 separate years, sometimes 13%? It is Obama's likening our current situation to the GD that is truly sowing fear, not Fox. Our GDP fell .5% this year which is better then the recession under Carter. Of course, Obama can hardly say we are experiencing the worst economic crisis since Jimmy Carter.

re: #145 Shug

I agree with everything they stand for, and their slogan reminds me of Festivis.

Okay ,,, you can't just leave that out there hanging ,, Whats their slogan?

"Lets begin the Feats Of Strength"

Frank Costanza

I'm not concerned about civil war, that is a mighty long stretch for us...but not so for Mexico...it took years for Columbia to defeat their narcoterrorists and that was with billions in aid from the US...one would have to be totally aloof not to admit Mexico has an enormous and growing problem that ultimately will suck us in...imo

When trying to figure out what's coming, its wise to imagine everything from the best to the worst, and keep both possibilities in mind as you plan your future.

I've only watched the first video, but so far, he is laying it out as a worst-case scenario... as such, I have no problems with it.

I'll check out videos two and three next.

What gets me is that Beck says all of the right things at the beginning and your thinking that these will be followed by some sober but thoughtful analysis reasonable (that is extrapolated from an analysis of the current situation) of real worst case scenarios.

But what follows is a virtual nut-fest.

Look you can see that inflation will happen. It may approach and even exceed Jimmy Carter level which was bad. BUT no one was using shopping carts full of money to buy bread and $8000/oz gold is absolutely total BS.

re: #109 Charles

Halp! Halp!

re: #155 sattv4u2

Okay ,,, you can't just leave that out there hanging ,, Whats their slogan?

"Lets begin the Feats Of Strength"

Frank Costanza

A festivus for the restofus

re: #151 Slumbering Behemoth

I didn't Individual Rights anywhere on their homepage, they're a non-starter. I did see "States Rights" which is just a more local Statism.

re: #126 Sol Roth

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Glenn Becks' "performance art" and neuroses are (to me) honest & frankly preferable than Hollywood movies or Jay Leno's comedy, and it's at least based on reality, not California-centric.

re: #149 Dan G.

I'll join this bandwagon. Michael Steele hasn't done a damned thing to assure me he's going to turn the party around. His public statements thus far have amounted to "the Republican party needs a new ad campaign". We're stuck for now.

Jurys still out. He's only had the job less than 3 weeks

re: #164 sattv4u2

Jurys still out. He's only had the job less than 3 weeks

So has what's his name?

re: #160 Slumbering Behemoth

"I'm only 37"

LOL!

re: #161 Nevergiveup

A festivus for the restofus

I've got the Festivus Pole

re: #126 Sol Roth

Beck has demonstrated too much emotional lability to be credible going forward. He's a recovering alcoholic/drug addict that converted to Mormonism, probably to keep from killing himself. He reached a breaking point when after a hemorrhoidectomy, he recorded himself contemplating suicide then broadcast it on YouTube. He cracks up on-air to the point of it being a regular feature of his show. He admits he doesn't sleep much and now his hands are shaking from "fear" of what's coming. He's definitely got some ADD/OCD/anxiety issues.

Thanks for your perceptive psychoanalysis. What would we do without you? You should have your own show on Fox. Think of all the sober, rational people who would watch it.

re: #30 Dr. Shalit

Jetpilot1101 -

Frankly, I Miss TONY SNOW.

-S-

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Rest in Peace, Tony Snow. Good & faithful servant.

re: #46 Gus 802

Ooooh. I'm watching it now.

Glenn Beck...

The Fox News version of Alex Jones.

Jones is a 9/11 Truther idiot that believes that International bankers put flouride in the water system to lower people's IQ and enslave them to the New World Order. We will all live (after 80% of us are killed by the Illuminati from Bohemian Grove) in FEMA camps and eat genetically modified food that will give us cancer. He broadcasts on WWCR shortwave and sells his crappy conspiracy videos to other truther idiots with 24.95 plus s/h.

Beck isn't that far gone.

re: #164 sattv4u2

What can I say, I have high standards. And he is letting Jindal deliver the response...

re: #158 Iron Fist

A Cold Civil War

It's Steyn. Please, someone tell me Steyn hasn't gone apeshit on us.

VDH, as well. We surely can't all be falling apart.

If you listened real carefully when Steyn filled in for Rush a week or so back, he had that same note of controlled hysteria (at times) in his voice that Beck does. I wondered at the time what had happened to the Steyn I've read and listened to over the years. Maybe it was his brush with the Canadian HRC that's responsible for the change ...I don't know, but I do know what I hear.

This is dumb. Glenn Beck that is. The military has always trained for civil unrest from time to time.

re: #88 ploome hineni

Oh, you're such a curmudgeon. A couple hundred murderers get released from prison. Hamas and Fatah kiss and make up. What's not to like?

re: #131 Killgore Trout

It hurts to upding you there, but I fear you are correct. Some serious changes need to be made if the GOP is going to remain relevant.

I don't need your Civil War.

re: #128 Gus 802

I liked Brit Hume.

I'm a big fan of Chris Wallace as well. Fox News Sunday is the best of the Sunday news shows. Unless, of course, you prefer Cokehead Roberts and George Metrosexual Stephanopoulos, the guy who gets his cues from Rahm Emmanuel every week.

OK Charles.

Maybe we try to balance the nutballs with the some exemplary opinions like those of Thomas Sowell and Victor Davis Hansen.

Ok I just watched all three segments. They make good points. They say the 2014 scenario that Glenn Beck set up is unfolding before our eyes.
I don't know a thing about the commentators, but I sure loved how pro-Israeli they were!

re: #178 unclassifiable

"[...] balance the nutballs [...]" What EXACTLY does this mean?

re: #175 Slumbering Behemoth

Good point--I've heard this frequently remarked on. What I HAVEN'T heard is just what changes need be made.

I'd be interested in hearing what you think.

re: #178 unclassifiable

OK Charles.

Maybe we try to balance the nutballs with the some exemplary opinions like those of Thomas Sowell and Victor Davis Hansen.

As yet VDH rings clear and true, and Sowell is rock steady. Agreed.

re: #158 Iron Fist

Aw shit.

re: #155 sattv4u2

Okay ,,, you can't just leave that out there hanging ,, Whats their slogan?

"Lets begin the Feats Of Strength"

Frank Costanza

It says The New Whig Party. A party for the rest of us

re: #180 Dan G.
Properly fit underwear?

re: #142 Racer X

Thank you!

Personally - I never ding down a comment without responding with a rebuttal.

If I make 100 posts, I'll get about 100 down dings, no matter the posts content. It only takes one enemy spending a few minutes a day to do a mass down ding.

I mentioned this on the last thread but HBO's "Taking Chance" debuted tonight and is on again at 11:00 PM EST on HBO w and then at 12:00 AM on HBO. I thought it was great. A real tear jerker.

[Link: www.hbo.com...]

When one falls, another brings him home.

re: #108 Slumbering Behemoth

The only "doom and gloom" prediction I have is that the GOP will continue to marginalize itself into irrelevance if its members insist on pimping the Becks, Coulters, O'Reillys, Jindals, etc., as their "best and brightest" of the conservative movement.

In all fairness, a group as large as the GOP (which is still a large percentage of the population) is going to have colorful adherents spouting crazy stuff. The thing is, you get attention that way, and that pays the bills in the media.

On the bright side, my read of the Dems is that fully have of them could be classified as socialist - including most among their most prominent. I don't think the far-out, crazy, fascist, super-religious types make up as big a fraction with the Republicans. The GOP picked McCain, after all.

I am waiting patiently for a release from Michael Steele about where the party is headed. Specifics would be nice. I know he just got the job, but the party is not headed in a safe direction and it needs to regroup.

re: #162 Dan G.

I don't have much hope for a third party solution, really. Many of them see like fringe nutters to me. But if the GOP keeps tacking in it's current direction, it too will become a party of fringe nutters.

re: #68 Nevergiveup

I agree but it's still fun to bitch about FOX.

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Yes, all the leftists bitch about Fox. Only Hillary had the balls to go on that Fox network for the longest time. Oooo, liberals couldn't handle the competition of big bad Fox that didn't drink their Koolaid.

re: #186 UberInfidel67

That is funny! But my question was in fact serious. It sounds like he's saying tolerate these nutbags and offset their stupidity with good columnists; as though credibility was something on a ledger that could be made up for by adding additional input from credible gents... But, I'll wait for clarification.

re: #185 Shug

It says The New Whig Party. A party for the rest of us

Cool. What position does Kramer have in the party!?!?!?

re: #183 Iron Fist

Agreed.

Except, honestly - I don't even notice when I get a down ding. I guess I should watch the spy more.

re: #183 Iron Fist

I try and be judicious with my down-dings, and prolific with my up-dings. I do find it interesting to see who dings me and on what. There are patterns there, but there are also times when I see names that I'm not familiar with. That's OK, too. I don't mind it so bad. It is better, of course, for a poster to be more of a contribution to the discussion. At the end of the day, though, it ain't my site. What I think is of limited meaning.

I upding for thoughtful posts, or posts that leave me nothing to add in a comment. I downding for lazy thinking, straw man arguments, and intellectual hatchetry.

re: #191 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't have much hope for a third party solution, really. Many of them see like fringe nutters to me. But if the GOP keeps tacking in it's current direction, it too will become a party of fringe nutters.

I'm about 1 creationist bill away from correcting your verb tense there.

Monty Python Communist Quiz sketch

re: #179 Wishing

Ok I just watched all three segments. They make good points. They say the 2014 scenario that Glenn Beck set up is unfolding before our eyes.
I don't know a thing about the commentators, but I sure loved how pro-Israeli they were!

"Pro-Israel?"

Sure, if you think it's pro-Israel to believe that the existence of Israel means the End Times are coming, when Jesus will return and convert all the Jews to Christianity. Israel is their own personal doomsday machine.

With "pro-Israel" friends like that, who needs Hamas?

I Ding, Therefore I Am

re: #138 calcajun

Folks, the talk about "civil war" is piffle. We do not have near the level of unrest in this country that we had in the 60's--and we were far closer to ripping ourselves to shreds then than we are now.

On the other hand, the concept of a revolution was more remote in the 1930's. People were more afraid of one than actively plotted. Study your history and you will see that things are not that bad. People are scared now. We have a generation of boomers on the verge of retiring and now they can't. Money is tight. But we will get on the other side of this and we will all be the better for it.

Tell that to any doom-sayers you see.

You had me up until the end. The problem is that our politicians have created so many government junkies that it could very well mean that this time it's different.

The only "solution" I hear coming out of Washington is the encouragement of the very behavior that got us into this mess in the first place.

re: #181 irongrampa

Just get back to basics. Small government, low taxes/reasonable regulations, defense, and leave the Big Nanny Gov't intrusion to the Dems.

re: #121 Killgore Trout

If Beck really thought that there was any chance of civil war he'd take his millions and buy an island in the Caribbean. He's full of shit but he knows his stupid and scared audience will eat this stuff up. He's like Mikey Moore, bilking his audience out of money while making them dumber. It's reprehensible.

Again, he clearly and unambiguously stated, at length - at the start of the show - that they are not claiming that, or expecting that, this stuff will actually happen. Let's be fair.

re: #81 albusteve

I'm no fan of FOX but the second vid struck me as quite plausible on both counts...Mexico is in very deep shit and Bibi swore he'd deal Hamas a death blow and is certainly capable of denying Iran a nuke...Iran will retaliate in some fashion...bad rabbits both

Mexico is scary. I lived in McAllen for thirteen years, five mile from Reynosa. My wife and I spent spent several Saturday nights a month dinning and shopping.
I swear it was one of the safest places you could ever visit just seven years ago.

Look at this link of Reynosa this week.

I ding up or down as I see fit, not always commenting on the ding that I apply. I do comment when I feel strongly about something positive or negative, or am feeling particularly snarky.

Ding fries are done...

re: #193 Dan G.
I couldn't resist being silly. I have been breathing paint fumes all day % )

Through video number two... so far, nothing is outside the realm of possibility... no whacky conspiracies, all events described have happened to other nations, so they can happen here as well.

On to video three.

re: #193 Dan G.

What I mean Dan G. is Charles is showing us folks who in his opinion are approaching this election loss in the wrong way. I am pleading for him to also show examples of those who are handling it in the correct way (again in his opinion).

Does that answer your question? Or are you still awaiting?

re: #99 Shug

maybe that explains the large jar of M&M's on his desk

I didn't know he was a mormon but I know he's an alcoholic

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Recovering Alcoholic. Has admitted alcohol was a problem. Is in recovery. These are signs of evolution.

re: #208 UberInfidel67

It was a low hanging fruit. ;) I'd have done the same thing in your shoes, even without the paint fumes.

re: #197 Dan G.

I'm about 1 creationist bill away from correcting your verb tense there.

Correct away, my grammar isn't perfect. And if there is a joke to be made in the process, more power to you.

re: #210 unclassifiable

Thanks, your point is now crystal clear and I agree with you.

re: #213 Dan G.
LMAO hahahahahaha We have no class. lol lol

re: #158 Iron Fist

Steyn cites David Warren's idea of a division,

"The nation is divided, roughly half-and-half, between people who instinctively resent the Nanny State, and those who instinctively long for its ministrations."

but I think Warren's construct is too simple. There is a large group in the middle who think the nanny state is sort of ok, but it hasn't yet gored their particular ox. When it does, and it is sure to, they're going to scream and complain and change sides, if they can find an acceptable way to do so.

re: #106 Thanos

They already have, it's called "JI" you can guess what the initials stand for I suspect.

Thanos -

For what it is worth, seems that "Islamic" Rule can be imposed and/or maintained only a the point of a sword or gun. Makes me think about the old Gen. Sherman quote about choosing war and letting "them" have a bellyfull of it.

-S-

re: #174 David Simon

re: #88 ploome hineni

Oh, you're such a curmudgeon. A couple hundred murderers get released from prison. Hamas and Fatah kiss and make up. What's not to like?

You're calling ploome a "curmudgeon"?

C'mere so I can whack you with my purse and smack you with my cane.

re: #214 Slumbering Behemoth

No, your grammar is currently fine (i.e. "will become"), but if this shit keeps up you'll have to say "has become".

re: #168 Globular Cluster

Thanks for your perceptive psychoanalysis. What would we do without you? You should have your own show on Fox. Think of all the sober, rational people who would watch it.

You're welcome.

re: #207 Racer X

Ding fries are done...

Stooges Pie Fight

re: #212 Iron Fist

You've managed to piss some people off enough for them to make you a pet project. It seems a little pointless, to my mind, but maybe that's just me.

It is pointless, but they enjoy it so.

re: #108 Slumbering Behemoth

The only "doom and gloom" prediction I have is that the GOP will continue to marginalize itself into irrelevance if its members insist on pimping the Becks, Coulters, O'Reillys, Jindals, etc., as their "best and brightest" of the conservative movement.

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Some of the names you mention are not even politicians, but media personalities.

They have first amendment rights too, as do Jane Fonda, Sean Penn and other "best & brightest" of the liberal establishment.

This is exactly why I don't watch any TV anymore, apart from PBS shows such as Frontline, Nova, etc...

Literally.

I couldn't care less about their sensationalism. I do see some things from TV News on the web, obviously, but I mostly read things online or listen to podcasts and news hour shows that are podcast as well.

Talking heads on commercial TV are, by and large, sensationalist bloviating total fucking assholes. Period.

All of them.

The Onion has them pegged way more than the Daily Show - I find Jon Stewart to be a total fucking moron as well.

All that they do is open their mouths and spew out bullshit hot air. They literally cater to the lowest common denominator and I find it totally offensive. It isn't news, it's total fucking bullshit.

I got tired of it a long time ago. I found that reading things lets me learn far more and absorb far more than bloviating assholes on the screen would ever do. They don't interest me at all. They look like monkeys jumping up and down in a cage trying to get attention.

Try it. Turn off your TV for a year. You don't need it. You really don't. TV news is about as worthless as you can get. I have live streams online from BBC if I want, or I'll use CNN as well for big political events. Other than that, I'd rather read stuff or listen to hour long shows with no stupid commercial breaks every 3 fucking minutes, stupid break intros with heavy flashy graphics, and programs with zero content.

TV News Shows are just our versions of the coliseum. I'm not into it. They have absolutely nothing valuable to say.

That being said, I did watch a few minutes of each clip linked above, and what I came away with is that Glenn Beck is a total sensationalist dick.

Okay, now I'll try to stop ranting for a bit and make some tea. =)

re: #212 Iron Fist

You've managed to piss some people off enough for them to make you a pet project. It seems a little pointless, to my mind, but maybe that's just me.

people can be obsessive...I don't like it either...I usually say my piece and move on

Don't down ding me! I'm not a complete bastard.

re: #224 alegrias

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Some of the names you mention are not even politicians, but media personalities.

They have first amendment rights too, as do Jane Fonda, Sean Penn and other "best & brightest" of the liberal establishment.

And who suggested taking away their first amendment rights?

The right to free speech does not mean a right to be above criticism.

re: #205 jorline

The reporter, Muguel Turriza, may be murdered for his reporting. I understand the Drug Gangs target anyone who interferes with them.

re: #219 MandyManners

You're calling ploome a "curmudgeon"?

C'mere so I can whack you with my purse and smack you with my cane.

lol. I assure you my tongue was firmly planted in my cheek. ;-)

re: #220 Dan G.

Oh, I get it now. "1 creationist bill away from correcting your verb tense". *thack*

re: #117 Ojoe

Try the Modern Whig party

Modern Whig Party

They look pretty good. The question is, can they be built up into a full-fledged national party capable of taking on both the Republicans and the Democrats?

re: #227 Racer X

Don't down ding me! I'm not a complete bastard.

I will upding anyone who links to The Young Ones. This I pledge.

FOX Business News gets it right:
FOX Business Network has won a victory against the Treasury Department in its Freedom of Information Act request for details about the government’s bailout plan.

re: #224 alegrias

What does the 1st Amendment have to do with sanctioning/publicly approving of the work of these hacks? Nothing. Yes, they're free to spout their bull, but the GOP leadership shouldn't be endorsing it; they should be marginalizing it.

re: #203 Slumbering Behemoth

Absolutely no disagreement there. I was dismayed by Steele's spouting that "hiphop" crap the other day. It makes me wonder if our leadership. has even a vague clue.

re: #190 Bloodnok

I am waiting patiently for a release from Michael Steele about where the party is headed. Specifics would be nice. I know he just got the job, but the party is not headed in a safe direction and it needs to regroup.

Well he did mention the hip hop thing.

re: #229 NelsFree

The reporter, Muguel Turriza, may be murdered for his reporting. I understand the Drug Gangs target anyone who interferes with them.

they learned from the Columbians...it will get far worse I think

Citing Beck's religion is nothing more than a show of your bigotry. If he is a nutjob, then so be it. It certainly doesn't mean that all Mormons are nutjobs. Of course, some morons might think so, but they are just that . . . morons.

If Glen Beck is right, then we're all in a world of hurt. Even if he is partially right. So . . . is he partially right?

Maybe.

What are you doing about it?

re: #200 Charles

"Pro-Israel?"

Sure, if you think it's pro-Israel to believe that the existence of Israel means the End Times are coming, when Jesus will return and convert all the Jews to Christianity. Israel is their own personal doomsday machine.

With "pro-Israel" friends like that, who needs Hamas?

Did you listen to what the commentator said? In #2, I believe?

re: #139 Killian Bundy

Meanwhile, ACORN is taking back the housing market.

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

Acorn Breaks into Home

Is anyone stupid enough to believe that a sizable chunk of that $2 billion won't go to ACORN? That'll pay for a whole lot more illegal break ins, trespassing, and squatters.

/your tax dollars at work

Yeah, I don't get this. What's the strategy here? They act as though they think they can just break into houses with impunity. I would think the logical outcome would be a whole bunch of them ending up in jail at the least.

re: #200 Charles

re: #179 Wishing

"Pro-Israel?"

Sure, if you think it's pro-Israel to believe that the existence of Israel means the End Times are coming, when Jesus will return and convert all the Jews to Christianity. Israel is their own personal doomsday machine.

With "pro-Israel" friends like that, who needs Hamas?

But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Matthew 24:36

re: #233 Bloodnok

I will upding anyone who links to The Young Ones. This I pledge.

I used to watch that every Sunday night on MTV. Great show.

There was a short article in The Economist about Bobby Jindal. He's delivering the Republican response to Obama's first address to Congress on Feb. 24th. Unfortunately, he's being taken seriously. The article focused on his possible presidential aspirations and pointed out that he's championed ethical reform and demonstrated basic competency during the last two hurricanes. His creationist bill was NOT mentioned as an example of his miscalculations. I was surprised. I think it would have been, had the author known about it. I know it's early yet and The Economist is not an American publication, but the stealth element of this nasty business appears to be working.

re: #126 Sol Roth

Is this the Glenn Beck kvetching about his tush that you speak of?

re: #232 Honorary Yooper

They look pretty good. The question is, can they be built up into a full-fledged national party capable of taking on both the Republicans and the Democrats?

no but they may get enough mojo to help redefine two party politics into something palatable for conservatives

re: #239 father_of_10

Who the hell are you ranting at?

re: #204 Optimizer

Again, he clearly and unambiguously stated, at length - at the start of the show - that they are not claiming that, or expecting that, this stuff will actually happen. Let's be fair.

Correct. It is also true that the decline of the US and the possibility of civil disorder is quietly in the back of everyone's mind. Wanting a civil war is idiotic. Preparing for unrest is not.

Most people have a total lack of historical perspective. Good societies can degenerate into madness. No economic, legal, or political structure will ultimately save a society if the citizens turn into shitheads. Give a constitution to a bunch of shitheads and you have a bunch of shitheads with a constitution.

I am not speaking of most Americans. I am speaking of irresponsible business leaders, corrupt politicians, multicultural vicitmhood lovers, a large dependent class of entitlement recipients, and spend-crazy representatives from both parties who balloon the deficit to unsustainable levels because the do not have the basic testicles to do anything unpopular.

We cannot go on this way indefinitely.

re: #241 dkorta

Yeah, I don't get this. What's the strategy here? They act as though they think they can just break into houses with impunity. I would think the logical outcome would be a whole bunch of them ending up in jail at the least.

From what I read earlier, the "new" actual owner of the house is pressing charges against the ACORN person that "broke in"

re: #239 father_of_10

Citing Beck's religion is nothing more than a show of your bigotry. If he is a nutjob, then so be it. It certainly doesn't mean that all Mormons are nutjobs. Of course, some morons might think so, but they are just that . . . morons.

If Glen Beck is right, then we're all in a world of hurt. Even if he is partially right. So . . . is he partially right?

Maybe.

What are you doing about it?

Beck's a Mormon?

re: #249 Globular Cluster

No economic, legal, or political structure will ultimately save a society if the citizens turn into shitheads

YES!

re: #244 eastvillageinfidel

There was a short article in The Economist about Bobby Jindal. He's delivering the Republican response to Obama's first address to Congress on Feb. 24th. Unfortunately, he's being taken seriously. The article focused on his possible presidential aspirations and pointed out that he's championed ethical reform and demonstrated basic competency during the last two hurricanes. His creationist bill was NOT mentioned as an example of his miscalculations. I was surprised. I think it would have been, had the author known about it. I know it's early yet and The Economist is not an American publication, but the stealth element of this nasty business appears to be working.

You don't understand the left. They aren't going to play their hole cards until he really is somebody, that's meat for election 2012. That's why it's great that Charles is airing this now.

re: #244 eastvillageinfidel

There was a short article in The Economist about Bobby Jindal. He's delivering the Republican response to Obama's first address to Congress on Feb. 24th. Unfortunately, he's being taken seriously. The article focused on his possible presidential aspirations and pointed out that he's championed ethical reform and demonstrated basic competency during the last two hurricanes. His creationist bill was NOT mentioned as an example of his miscalculations. I was surprised. I think it would have been, had the author known about it. I know it's early yet and The Economist is not an American publication, but the stealth element of this nasty business appears to be working.

It's up to US to shine the light.

re: #248 Dan G.

Who the hell are you ranting at?

"ranting"? He;s stating an opinion. Agree with it, don;t agree with it!

re: #204 Optimizer

Again, he clearly and unambiguously stated, at length - at the start of the show - that they are not claiming that, or expecting that, this stuff will actually happen. Let's be fair.

They know that people don't pay attention to that stuff.

This is simply incredibly irresponsible, and I'm far from the only person who thinks so. That's not unfair - it's absolutely justified criticism.

re: #224 alegrias

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Some of the names you mention are not even politicians, but media personalities.

You wouldn't know it the way some party members (read: self-identified republicans) knee-jerk to the defense of some of these pundits. In fact, you might get the impression that some think they are infallible gods.

They have first amendment rights too, as do Jane Fonda, Sean Penn and other "best & brightest" of the liberal establishment.

Never implied that they didn't. But just like most reasonable folks don't give a damn about what some Hollywood actor/actress thinks, they should also not give a damn about what most of these self identified 'conservative' pundits think.

I'm glad Obama is the Post Racial President and not the Most Racial President. Look at the Post Racialists he's putting in his cabinet.

(if I have to put a sarc tag after that fatty somebody is getting yelled at)

re: #243 Racer X

I used to watch that every Sunday night on MTV. Great show.

Without The Young Ones I never would have learned to appreciate Motorhead. Ace of Spades:

re: #255 sattv4u2

Citing Beck's religion is nothing more than a show of your bigotry.

Who did this? This is not an opinion, this is an accusation.

re: #239 father_of_10

Citing Beck's religion is nothing more than a show of your bigotry. If he is a nutjob, then so be it. It certainly doesn't mean that all Mormons are nutjobs. Of course, some morons might think so, but they are just that . . . morons.

Mitt Romney is a Mormon and Charles voted for him (reluctantly). That means Charles is a nutjob.

/Sarc

BTW: Does the fact that a person is a recovered Alcoholic mean his opinions should be ignored? Bigotry there as well.

Time for the old folk. Good night, good people.

BTW, this is STILL a country without peer, regardless of the current crap. We'll come out okay, I believe.

Third party advocates are not but lazy Utopians. Fantasizers of the first order. The system demands that you work for what you want - district by district, election to election.

How long before your third party, institutionalized, becomes just another party. It's all local, start there.

/cheap advice

...well, if it ain't the end times, maybe it should be...

/This is just too fucked up...

re: #264 IslandLibertarian

...well, if it ain't the end times, maybe it should be...

/This is just too fucked up...

I saw that too...stunning

re: #260 Dan G.

You best learn how to use "quote" and/ or "reply". My #255 (which you replyed to) did NOT contain the "quote" you attributed to it!

re: #264 IslandLibertarian

Ah yes, internet polls. Didn't they predict that luaP noR would win the election?

Hey Charles.

Are you a nutjob or are you asymptotically approaching nutjobednness?

Full disclosure. I'm a nutjob.