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I would defend the liberty of consenting adult creationists to practice whatever intellectual perversions they like in the privacy of their own homes; but it is also necessary to protect the young and innocent.

Arthur C. Clarke

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1 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:22:29pm

Turning on the lights and ready for a new thread.

2 pat  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:22:31pm

Whew. lol

3 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:22:31pm

Is it safe?

4 Shug  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:23:42pm

Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked

5 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:23:52pm

My name is Honorary Yooper, and I am an LGF addict.

6 solomonpanting  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:23:56pm
to practice whatever intellectual perversions they like

The penis mightier than the sword.

7 sattv4u2  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:24:05pm

Stinkys' icing his arm from the last thread

8 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:24:14pm

re: #4 Shug

Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked

We've already seen two tonight.

9 Buster Bunny  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:24:22pm

re: #4 Shug

Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked

I'm sorry Shug .. I cant do that.

10 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:24:26pm

re: #3 Silvergirl

Is it safe?

Sure is, my Guard Unicorn is on duty...

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11 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:24:48pm

re: #4 Shug

Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked

Sorry Dave, I can't do that.
Daisy, Da - i --s --y, D ---a ----i.....

12 Idle Drifter  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:05pm

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

My name is Honorary Yooper, and I am an LGF addict.

Hello, Honary Yooper.

13 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:10pm

OK, what's the over/under on the YECs getting pissy about the Arthur Clarke quote?

14 songbird  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:31pm

A new Thread revealed,
But slumber overtakes me.
Goodnight kind Lizards.

15 Shug  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:34pm

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

My name is Honorary Yooper, and I am an LGF addict.

it is now 1:24 AM.
I initially planned to log off at 11 PM . then at midnight.

i

16 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:35pm

re: #5 Honorary Yooper

My name is Honorary Yooper, and I am an LGF addict.

Hello, Honorary Yooper! My name is Sharmuta. Welcome to rehab.

17 Bobblehead  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:40pm

Hoo boy. My finger was stuck on the new comments button.

18 Athens Runaway  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:26:11pm

Poking my head out of the shell to see if the bombs have stopped flying.

What is up with this place lately? I don't recall so many arguments and banhammerings even a month or two ago.

19 Wendya  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:26:17pm

re: #13 Honorary Yooper

OK, what's the over/under on the YECs getting pissy about the Arthur Clarke quote?

Hopefully, they'll keep their fingers off the keyboard because Charles is taking no prisoners tonight.

20 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:26:41pm

Last thread was a massacre.

But I'm going to have to check back in tomorrow to see the bannings on this one - and I feel there will be many.

G'night, y'all.

Is there a Monitor Lizard for the overnight shift?

21 Shug  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:27:44pm

Written on a bathroom wall

A HAIKU
OMFG
ROFL
STFU Noob

NOT A HAIKU
WTF , mate?

22 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:28:19pm

re: #13 Honorary Yooper

Earlier this morning one them was claiming Clarke was a creationist. When asked for proof he said he'd google it and never came back.

23 Shug  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:04pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Earlier this morning one them was claiming Clarke was a creationist. When asked for proof he said he'd google it and never came back.

he's still looking for the missing link

24 Killgore Trout  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:18pm

re: #18 Athens Runaway

It happens sometimes.

25 Buster Bunny  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:22pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Earlier this morning one them was claiming Clarke was a creationist. When asked for proof he said he'd google it and never came back.

Proof and evidence leave these creationists out in the cold.

26 sngnsgt  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:43pm

Thanks for the Interweb Algore.

27 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:47pm

re: #18 Athens Runaway

Poking my head out of the shell to see if the bombs have stopped flying.

What is up with this place lately? I don't recall so many arguments and banhammerings even a month or two ago.

Don't ya know? These are the *dah-dah-dah-doom* end times. Crawl under the table with me. :-)

28 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:50pm

Romans! Another thread!

29 Wishing  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:52pm

Sleep well lizards.

30 jaunte  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:30:04pm

One more Clarke comment on creationists:

"I have encountered a few "creationists" and because they were usually nice, intelligent people, I have been unable to decide whether they were really mad, or only pretending to be mad. If I was a religious person, I would consider creationism nothing less than blasphemy. Do its adherents imagine that God is a cosmic hoaxer who has created that whole vast fossil record for the sole purpose of misleading mankind?

And, although I do not necessarily agree with paleontologist Teilhard de Chardin's advocacy of evolution as a proof of the glory of God, de Chardin's attitude is both logical and inspiring. A creator who laid the foundations for the entire future at the beginning of time is far more awesome than a clumsy tinkerer who constantly modifies his creations and throws away entire species in the process."

And now, goodnight all.

31 Idle Drifter  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:30:12pm

re: #19 Wendya

Hopefully, they'll keep their fingers off the keyboard because Charles is taking no prisoners tonight.

You'd think a lot of them would have noticed all the trophies in the den. Nodrog over there is getting a little dusty.

32 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:30:39pm

re: #27 Silvergirl

Don't ya know? These are the *dah-dah-dah-doom* end times. Crawl under the table with me. :-)

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33 wiffersnapper  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:30:40pm

What a clever quote

34 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:30:40pm

re: #20 Noam Sayin'

Last thread was a massacre.

But I'm going to have to check back in tomorrow to see the bannings on this one - and I feel there will be many.

G'night, y'all.

Is there a Monitor Lizard for the overnight shift?

I did see a picture of a guard unicorn.

35 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:32:05pm

re: #34 Silvergirl

I did see a picture of a guard unicorn.

Guard unicorn has a face that would stop the heart of any troll...:)

36 meeshlr  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:32:30pm

I'm going to save that quote in case anyone tries to sneak creationism into our school. Not that it would have any effect on the YEC but it would give me a chuckle and a bit of encouragement.


Every time I think that I'm volunteering too much time at my daughters' school, something happens to remind me that I need to keep a close eye on what they are being taught.

37 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:33:08pm

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

38 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:33:43pm

re: #34 Silvergirl

I did see a picture of a guard unicorn.

Actually, that's for the brunch tomorrow.

39 Buster Bunny  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:33:50pm

re: #37 Rustler

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

Too many trolls to count. A true feast was had by all.

Leftovers are in the LGF room.

40 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:34:46pm

I'm getting weary myself. It's after midnight here so I'm going to check out. Goodnight all!

41 Bobblehead  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:14pm

re: #37 Rustler

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

A good sized culling.

42 Dustyvet  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:35pm

re: #38 Noam Sayin'

Actually, that's for the brunch tomorrow.

You ain't eating my Guard Unicorn...he was a pressie from the guberment...:)


/S

43 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:39pm

So does anyone else find it funny that the best program on Fox News nowadays isn't really a News Show but the Red Eye. So much for a Fair and Balanced Fox News. It's still the best of the lot but is rapidly throwing out all semblance of integrity.

44 meeshlr  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:43pm

re: #30 jaunte

I've often wondered about that. Why is it so easy for some people to believe that God created the fossil record as some kind of a hoax or test or something?

I encountered a preteen on Shelfari who spouted a lot of the creationist nonsense. I just felt sorry for her. She didn't even have a basic understanding of evolution; she just knew that it was completely wrong.

45 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:47pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

Thanks for listening earlier Sharmuta, I was conflicted over what to do with that information. I despise backstabbers, and I try to keep track of them.

46 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:49pm

I have a theory on why Glenn Beck said civil war. It's a short theory. I could be wrong.

47 Shug  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:36:14pm

re: #46 Gus 802

I have a theory on why Glenn Beck said civil war. It's a short theory. I could be wrong.

let's have it

48 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:36:42pm

re: #46 Gus 802 Post it :P stop being a tease.

49 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:36:59pm

re: #47 Shug

Well, I thought, perhaps, it might be racial. People will see it as "code."

50 meeshlr  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:37:35pm

re: #43 Rustler

I love Gutman!

His Gregalogue tonight about Tarantino being lazy by using a Nazi as the villain in his latest movie was brilliant. Greg suggested a terrorist would have been a better choice.

51 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:37:54pm

re: #8 Honorary Yooper
Who melted down tonight? I've been refereeing a 9 yr olds b-day melee.

52 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:39:02pm

re: #49 Gus 802
Kinda like a friend who said damn lawyers. Someone asked him why he said because I have to deal everyday with my neighbor who is a french canadian jewish tax lawyer. The he was accused of being an anti semite because he disliked his neighbor who went ahead and strived to achieve parity with a racial stereotype.

53 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:39:03pm

Was just a thought. Not like I'm sitting here gritting my teeth about it.

54 Bobblehead  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:40:12pm

re: #53 Gus 802

Was just a thought. Not like I'm sitting here gritting my teeth about it.

Ok, I'll jump in. What's your theory?

55 Idle Drifter  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:40:14pm

re: #51 pingjockey

Who melted down tonight? I've been refereeing a 9 yr olds b-day melee.

Globalcluster went down hard. I missed what was said though.
A couple new guys went down along with a 5 year sleeper Moby.

56 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:40:19pm

re: #52 Rustler

Kinda like a friend who said damn lawyers. Someone asked him why he said because I have to deal everyday with my neighbor who is a french canadian jewish tax lawyer. The he was accused of being an anti semite because he disliked his neighbor who went ahead and strived to achieve parity with a racial stereotype.

Ah, right. See, can't say one way or the other. I kind of said something about attorneys the other night. Was just a fleeting comment on my part.

57 Athens Runaway  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:40:45pm

re: #27 Silvergirl

Don't ya know? These are the *dah-dah-dah-doom* end times. Crawl under the table with me. :-)

Gladly, ma'am. I survive this on a yearly basis, the End of the World is a walk in the park.

re: #24 Killgore Trout

It happens sometimes.


I suppose... I mean, I've gone through bits of politically-related gloom the last few weeks, but I haven't melted down. I just find it hard to believe that so many people on the right are melting down, but when I see meltdowns en masse like tonight or the Coulter kerfuffle or the Hannity hufflebaloo... it makes me wonder if there's something massively wrong here.

Remember: winners keep their heads when others are losing theirs.

58 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:41:05pm

re: #55 Idle Drifter
A 5 year sleeper? Wow.

59 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:41:14pm

re: #55 Idle Drifter

Globalcluster went down hard. I missed what was said though.
A couple new guys went down along with a 5 year sleeper Moby.

I lost track. Which one was that?

60 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:41:58pm

re: #54 Bobblehead

Ok, I'll jump in. What's your theory?

I was just wondering why he would say civil war. If anything the appropriate term would be revolution. Big mistake on his part to say civil war since it implies us fighting each other. I don't think that's what the outcome would be all about.

61 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:43:27pm

re: #45 MrPaulRevere

Thanks for listening earlier Sharmuta, I was conflicted over what to do with that information. I despise backstabbers, and I try to keep track of them.

No problem!

62 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:45:50pm

re: #37 Rustler

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

People lost it. Big-time.

63 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:46:09pm

Anyway, I was never one for alarmism regardless of the side.

64 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:46:09pm

re: #60 Gus 802

Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.

65 Idle Drifter  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:46:24pm

re: #59 Silvergirl

I lost track. Which one was that?

I missed his name, he hurled an insult at Charles and was gone. I think he was registered for 5 years with a few comments. Sorry I'm a bit tired and the beer ain't helping so I could be mistaken and misread a comment. There were so many getting wacked over in the last thread I was like Whack a Mole. All of it over Glen Beck. Sheesh.

66 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:46:26pm

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

67 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:47:05pm

re: #61 Sharmuta

Sharm, someone has a spayshul message for you here.

68 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:47:45pm

re: #64 rawmuse

Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.

Yep. And the Feds will win. Last time I checked those guys have a lot guns, choppers, A-10s, F-18s, and such.

69 Idle Drifter  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:47:47pm

re: #65 Idle Drifter

it was like Whack a Mole. PIMF

70 Bobblehead  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:47:55pm

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

Oh no! Say it ain't so. Not Steyn.

71 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:48:21pm

re: #64 rawmuse

Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.

Clearly, Sir, you have not met my father. Although I'm not sure he would meet your definition of a lefty.

72 freetoken  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:48:24pm

re: #37 Rustler

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

The Red Cross has put out a call for blood donation, for those with the rare Type L.

73 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:48:36pm

re: #37 Rustler

I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?

Some folks just can't take it when they see someone chip the gilding off their golden idol.

74 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:48:42pm

re: #66 Charles

Pardon my ignorance, is Pam Geller the Atlas Shrugged blog? Been there exactly once.

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:49:02pm

re: #64 rawmuse

Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.

Now that the screaming has died down, though, what exactly was Beck predicting?

76 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:49:17pm

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

You know, the first time I heard her open her mouth... Oh nevermind. Let's just say it reminded me of certain event in my families past.

77 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:49:52pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist
DOOM! Doom on you, me, everybody.

78 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:49:59pm

re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist

Clearly, Sir, you have not met my father. Although I'm not sure he would meet your definition of a lefty.

Well, the AK-47 WAS invented by a Lefty, come to think of it.
I was thinking of the "All We Are Saying Is Give Peace A Chance" types.

79 pink freud  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:50:04pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

Now that the screaming has died down, though, what exactly was Beck predicting?

The sky is falling.

80 Boxy_brown  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:50:13pm
81 Idle Drifter  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:50:39pm

re: #76 Gus 802

You know, the first time I heard her open her mouth... Oh nevermind. Let's just say it reminded me of certain event in my families past.

I don't know who she is but it's starting not to sound good.

82 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:50:41pm

re: #68 Gus 802

Yep. And the Feds will win. Last time I checked those guys have a lot guns, choppers, A-10s, F-18s, and such.

You assume they would be willing to use them on their fellow Americans. Back in the 90's only about 25% of the military was willing to do so. There is no telling if the remaining 75% would try to stop them from doing so.

83 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:50:51pm

Actually, I was talking with an Obama voter last week. For 3.5 hours. He's more of a libertarian and a free thinker. Sceptic. Anyway, he talked up the stock up on food and arms aspect. Former USMC.

84 Charles Johnson  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:51:06pm

Some of the people I've defended against charges of being xenophobic did NOT deserve it.

85 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:51:17pm

re: #77 pingjockey

DOOM! Doom on you, me, everybody.

Oh. OK. Doom.

86 Syrah  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:51:21pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

Hello, Honorary Yooper! My name is Sharmuta. Welcome to rehab.

My name is Syrah, . . .

I like her Amy Winhouuse's music.

Even if she creeps me out. There is something very Faustian about her.

87 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:51:47pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

Now that the screaming has died down, though, what exactly was Beck predicting?

Civil war.

88 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:03pm

re: #4 Shug

Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked

Who? I just got here.

89 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:10pm

re: #82 Hard Right

You assume they would be willing to use them on their fellow Americans. Back in the 90's only about 25% of the military was willing to do so. There is no telling if the remaining 75% would try to stop them from doing so.

I think if they see it as a matter of their own survival, they will shoot back. Perhaps not at first but eventually it would be a bloodbath and the government would win. Regardless.

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:24pm

Anyway, I was going to work on my family emergency plan this weekend, so I suppose the doom is another good reason. You know, that and the Impending Large Earthquake.

91 schnapp  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:27pm

re: #74 pingjockey

i never liked "objectivism" anyway.

92 Idle Drifter  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:49pm

re: #88 Walter L. Newton

Who? I just got here.

Global Cluster is gone.

93 Clemente  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:59pm

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

Oh good grief.

94 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:59pm

re: #88 Walter L. Newton
That is a 5 buck tardy fee with a MMGW tax.

95 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:53:06pm

re: #87 rawmuse

Civil war.

I kind of got that, but between whom and whom?

96 Boxy_brown  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:54:25pm

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist


I kind of got that, but between whom and whom?

Us and us.

97 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:54:29pm

re: #89 Gus 802

I think if they see it as a matter of their own survival, they will shoot back. Perhaps not at first but eventually it would be a bloodbath and the government would win. Regardless.

If ordered to attack other Americans, who knows whether or not they would.
If they are attacked I'm sure they would defend themselves and win. All I know is that if I saw an M1 Abrams parked in the street I would definitely leave it alone.

98 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:54:40pm

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

I kind of got that, but between whom and whom?

That was never extrapolated from the conversation. It was just willy nilly all over the place. You know, FoxNews, Glenn Beck.

Had a lot of sound effects and still images from foreign countries. A few from Katrina.

99 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:54:49pm

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

I kind of got that, but between whom and whom?

Had not figured that out yet. But, really, does it matter?

100 pink freud  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:55:23pm

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

Class warfare, rich hiding in gated communities, gangs, military against civilians, collapse of civilization.

Oh, and 8000/ounce gold.

What did I forget?

101 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:55:23pm

re: #97 Hard Right

If ordered to attack other Americans, who knows whether or not they would.
If they are attacked I'm sure they would defend themselves and win. All I know is that if I saw an M1 Abrams parked in the street I would definitely leave it alone.

Same here. Or the ripping sound of a vulcan cannon? No thanks.

102 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:55:59pm

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

103 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:02pm

re: #101 Gus 802

Same here. Or the ripping sound of a vulcan cannon? No thanks.

Oooooo. I would NOT want to be on the receiving end of that.

104 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:20pm

re: #94 pingjockey

That is a 5 buck tardy fee with a MMGW tax.

MMGW tax. I'm afraid to ask.

105 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:26pm

re: #80 Boxy_brown

"Yes it's safe, it's very safe, so safe you wouldn't believe it."

One of my top ten favorite films! Hoffman and Olivier could not have been better!

106 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:37pm

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

*shaking head*

107 Boxy_brown  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:37pm

re: #102 rawmuse

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

Nope.

108 pink freud  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:41pm

re: #100 pink freud

Oh yes, I left out that wild-eyed teetering-on-the-brink look Beck seems to have lately.

109 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:44pm

re: #103 Hard Right

Oooooo. I would NOT want to be on the receiving end of that.

Yep, and then wind up on LiveLeak.

110 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:57:06pm

re: #104 Walter L. Newton
Man made global warming! Manbearpig tax! Did you have a show tonight?

111 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:57:23pm

re: #102 rawmuse

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

Atlas

112 Bobblehead  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:57:32pm

re: #89 Gus 802

I think if they see it as a matter of their own survival, they will shoot back. Perhaps not at first but eventually it would be a bloodbath and the government would win. Regardless.


I do not wish to see our military men and women put in a position where they have to make that choice. That would be a disaster in itself.

113 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:57:59pm

Who the hell is this Geller woman? Yuri Gellers love child?

114 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:58:14pm

re: #102 rawmuse

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

Go for it. Everyone should at least once. It's like "Cowfee Tawlk" meets... I don't know... something.

///

115 Syrah  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:58:14pm

re: #102 rawmuse

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

I think you should "shrug" that one off

116 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:58:46pm

re: #111 Walter L. Newton
Aha. I knew that name from somewhere. Visited that place exactly once.

117 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:58:54pm

re: #112 Bobblehead

I do not wish to see our military men and women put in a position where they have to make that choice. That would be a disaster in itself.

It would. We'll be OK. Ain't gonna happen. The left was babbling this crap after 911.

118 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:58:59pm

re: #109 Gus 802

Yep, and then wind up on LiveLeak.

No thanks.
I saw where an Apache hit a group of guys with it's 30mm gun. Messy.

119 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:59:13pm

Who... is pamela geller?! Where have you guys been? There was a thread on her last night for crying out loud! I love ya, but DAMN! Pay attention!

120 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:59:20pm

re: #102 rawmuse

OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?

A very intense woman with a blog named after an Ayn Rand novel, who wants to have Charles flogged.

121 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:59:37pm

re: #118 Hard Right

No thanks.
I saw where an Apache hit a group of guys with it's 30mm gun. Messy.

Yep, human chum.

122 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:59:45pm

re: #119 Sharmuta
Some of us ain't up late dear!

123 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:00:17pm

re: #117 Gus 802

It would. We'll be OK. Ain't gonna happen. The left was babbling this crap after 911.

There might be some assassinations, but I seriously doubt civil war is coming.

124 Boxy_brown  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:00:41pm

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

"who wants to have Charles flogged."


"Flogged"... like in the British navy in the 1800s. Who thinks like that?

125 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:00:51pm

re: #119 Sharmuta

Sorry, I've been busy, making a living, for a change. I will crack the thread.

126 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:01:39pm

re: #122 pingjockey

Some of us ain't up late dear!

It wasn't put up late at all. Doesn't anybody scroll down "below the fold"? There are days worth of threads on the front page at any given time.

Not to sound catty, but come on!

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:01:39pm

re: #117 Gus 802

It would. We'll be OK. Ain't gonna happen. The left was babbling this crap after 911.

Americans have a bad habit of defying predictions and behaving fairly well under pressure.

128 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:01:56pm

re: #123 Hard Right

There might be some assassinations, but I seriously doubt civil war is coming.

I doubt even that. There is that danger, considering. We have to remember to that this is a global challenge for the economy.

129 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:02:06pm

re: #126 Sharmuta
Thttttbbbrtttt!

130 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:02:09pm

re: #110 pingjockey

Man made global warming! Manbearpig tax! Did you have a show tonight?

No. This is crossover week, last show ended last weekend, new show opens next week. The Visitor Sigmund Freud meets... god?

Vienna, 1938. The Nazis have invaded Austria and are persecuting the Jews. On this April evening, the Gestapo arrest his daughter Anna and take her for questioning. Freud remains alone and desperate when, suddenly, a stranger enters through the window. The visitor, a frivolous and cynical dandy in a tuxedo & top hat, has some incredible things to say. Who is he? A mad man? A magician? Is this merely a dream? Or is he really as he claims, God in person?

131 freetoken  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:03:14pm

re: #84 Charles

From reading today's article, it appears to me that Steyn has fallen into a classic (and very common on these type of blogs and forums) logic trap - the false dilemma:

So what's the greater sin? That Miss Shaidle fails to draw a clear bright line between a generally observable phenomenon and a statistically 100% universal phenomenon? Or that even raising the generally observable phenomenon is now beyond the pale?

The problem here is.... why must we consider a "greater", or lesser, sin worth rejecting but some other on the scale (of sins) not? One can readily reject both.

132 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:03:58pm

re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist

Americans have a bad habit of defying predictions and behaving fairly well under pressure.

That they do. Especially Americans and the rest of the world. A survival instinct takes over and it does not include going out and shooting people or starting a war with your neighbor.

The downfall of civilization has been way overrated for almost 2000 years.

133 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:04:25pm

re: #130 Walter L. Newton
That sounds cool! My high school senior is getting ready for Charlie and the Chocolate factory.

134 Silvergirl  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:04:30pm

G'night all. Crawling under the bed now.

135 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:05:18pm

re: #133 pingjockey

That sounds cool! My high school senior is getting ready for Charlie and the Chocolate factory.

Hmmmmm... chocolate!

136 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:05:49pm

re: #128 Gus 802

I doubt even that. There is that danger, considering. We have to remember to that this is a global challenge for the economy.

Hopefully it won't happen. It certainly wouldn't help and would hurt those of us wanting to stop obama and the left.

137 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:06:06pm

re: #126 Sharmuta
Guilty as charged. I will check the days threads, but if the last comment is like an hour old I don't go read. My fault.

138 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:06:21pm

re: #84 Charles

Some of the people I've defended against charges of being xenophobic did NOT deserve it.

I don't know what to say except I'm sorry. This is very disappointing.

139 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:03pm

re: #135 Walter L. Newton
I am immune for a while now. Got the better half some of those Cadbury creme eggs! :)

140 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:13pm

Oh, dear. Public flogging of the head Lizard. Very bad.
OK, I got it.

141 Idle Drifter  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:31pm

re: #101 Gus 802

Same here. Or the ripping sound of a vulcan cannon? No thanks.

I've read and agree with some of John Ringo's Last Centurion. If there was a big catastrophe to beset the United States any local militia that would spring up would be out of necessity for law and order to help bring society back to normal. They would work with local law enforcement, National Guard Units and US military units considering their makeup would be and should be mainly former/retired military and law enforcement. Civil War would do nothing to help this country and ranks up there with zombie holocaust fantasies.

142 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:39pm

re: #136 Hard Right

Hopefully it won't happen. It certainly wouldn't help and would hurt those of us wanting to stop obama and the left.

Exactly, that would be massive PR loss dare I say. Now that's were we could face a logistical problem. If we allow this kind of talk people will think we're guilty by association. Fact I think.

143 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:50pm

re: #139 pingjockey

I am immune for a while now. Got the better half some of those Cadbury creme eggs! :)

Oooh, I guess those are in stores now.

One of the best things about living in England, you can get 'em year round.

144 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:59pm

re: #89 Gus 802 Problem is the military isn't there to protect the government the military was established to protect the constitution and that is what they swear to do. Not to blindly obey Obama but to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and Domestic"

145 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:08:32pm

OT, there is a puppy sprawled all over my side of the bed!

146 Sloppy  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:09:01pm

I decided some time ago that Glenn Beck is a silly person and quit watching him. There seems to be a sort of Gresham's Law at work in TV: Lose a Brit Hume and pick up a Glenn Beck. The trend consistently is down.

147 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:09:23pm

re: #141 Idle Drifter

I've read and agree with some of John Ringo's Last Centurion. If there was a big catastrophe to beset the United States any local militia that would spring up would be out of necessity for law and order to help bring society back to normal. They would work with local law enforcement, National Guard Units and US military units considering their makeup would be and should be mainly former/retired military and law enforcement. Civil War would do nothing to help this country and ranks up there with zombie holocaust fantasies.

Yes, or as I sometimes tell socialists, you'll just replace one set of lunatics with a far worse set of lunatics. In the end I'm pretty sure I'd wind up fighting with the Feds. Which is rather ironic.

148 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:09:25pm

re: #145 pingjockey

OT, there is a puppy sprawled all over my side of the bed!

I can actually feel my blood pressure going down after that last thread.

What kind of puppy?

149 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:09:37pm

re: #140 rawmuse

Oh, dear. Public flogging of the head Lizard. Very bad.
OK, I got it.

That's not all of it, but it's enough.

pamela geller

150 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:10:12pm

re: #143 SanFranciscoZionist
That should be against the law! Those things will make you sick, they are terribly addicting.

151 Neutral President  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:10:13pm

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

Oh ffs... we are losing every voice of reason to insanity.

152 least  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:10:30pm

re: #123 Hard Right

There might be some assassinations, but I seriously doubt civil war is coming.

Waaaaaaaaaay back before JFK's Dallas trip, the thought of an assassination was totally beyond our national imagination.
Now, it seems to be almost expected.

We've progressed, yah sure, yew betcha.

153 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:10:36pm

re: #144 Rustler

Problem is the military isn't there to protect the government the military was established to protect the constitution and that is what they swear to do. Not to blindly obey Obama but to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and Domestic"

Right, but that's why we have the SCOTUS, congress, lower courts, etc. Obama is president but he's not King.

154 sngnsgt  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:10:42pm
155 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:11:07pm

re: #148 SanFranciscoZionist
Heinz 57. Sharpei, chocolate lab, and pit bull(maybe).

156 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:11:32pm

re: #142 Gus 802

Exactly, that would be massive PR loss dare I say. Now that's were we could face a logistical problem. If we allow this kind of talk people will think we're guilty by association. Fact I think.

I'd say fact based on historical precedent. The black helicopter crowd hurt us over time. People associated us with them because they were against Clinton and pro-gun.
I knew they would come back around if obama won. It took them longer than I expected to surface tho.

157 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:11:55pm

re: #149 Sharmuta
She is a Class A nutbar.

158 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:12:01pm

re: #138 Sharmuta

I don't know what to say except I'm sorry. This is very disappointing.

Disappointing indeed. I imagine it must feel a bit like finding out a long time friend or close relative is a bigot when you start dating a gal who belongs to a racial/religious group they disdain.

159 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:12:48pm

re: #150 pingjockey

That should be against the law! Those things will make you sick, they are terribly addicting.

The English have a serious sugar tolerance. I have never seen another group of people eat so much chocolate. They also drink whiskey at lunch. I mean, people who aren't alcoholics do this. It's disconcerting.

OTOH, after you've had unlimited access for a while, I find that they get less alluring. By the end of my time living in London I was pretty blase about the eggs, except when friends would come from California, and freak out, and then I would freak out all over again with.

160 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:13:12pm

re: #156 Hard Right

I'd say fact based on historical precedent. The black helicopter crowd hurt us over time. People associated us with them because they were against Clinton and pro-gun.
I knew they would come back around if obama won. It took them longer than I expected to surface tho.

Deja vu with the Ruby Ridge angle "all over again." I know. We have to be level headed and pragmatic.

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:13:33pm

re: #155 pingjockey

Heinz 57. Sharpei, chocolate lab, and pit bull(maybe).

Oh, cute. So a wrinkly face, or not?

162 funky chicken  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:14:36pm

re: #154 sngnsgt

having an epidemic of drunk drivers or something?

163 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:15:09pm

re: #159 SanFranciscoZionist
My wife is from Wales and if she's very good or I'm very bad I go to this Australian store in Leavenworth, Wa. and get her real English treats, makes her day it does.

164 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:15:12pm

re: #160 Gus 802

Deja vu with the Ruby Ridge angle "all over again." I know. We have to be level headed and pragmatic.

And make clear the ones talking civil war aren't with us. Sadly the left will use it to their advantage--again.

165 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:15:42pm

re: #153 Gus 802 I mentioned that because you talk about the military supporting Obama in this Fictional civil war of Beck's but if it occurs it will occur based on Obama raping the constitution and I doubt you will see most soldiers supporting the Govt in that endeavour.

166 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:15:44pm

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist
Just around his mouth and a little on the neck.

167 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:16:06pm

re: #156 Hard Right

I'd say fact based on historical precedent. The black helicopter crowd hurt us over time. People associated us with them because they were against Clinton and pro-gun.
I knew they would come back around if obama won. It took them longer than I expected to surface tho.

The true blue, hard core black helicopter crowd are without political affiliation. That Jones character sees conspiracies no matter what party holds office.

168 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:16:50pm

re: #164 Hard Right

And make clear the ones talking civil war aren't with us. Sadly the left will use it to their advantage--again.

My guess is that Obama won't mess with the 2nd Amendment. We'll have to wait and see.

169 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:16:57pm

re: #163 pingjockey

My wife is from Wales and if she's very good or I'm very bad I go to this Australian store in Leavenworth, Wa. and get her real English treats, makes her day it does.

Flakes, Turkish Delight bars, anything by Cadbury, really...Jaffa cakes.

170 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:17:46pm

re: #166 pingjockey

Just around his mouth and a little on the neck.

Ohhhhh. I love dogs. Just discovered ipuppycan.com.

171 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:17:58pm

re: #165 Rustler

I mentioned that because you talk about the military supporting Obama in this Fictional civil war of Beck's but if it occurs it will occur based on Obama raping the constitution and I doubt you will see most soldiers supporting the Govt in that endeavour.

Not supporting Obama. But supporting law and order and their own safety. It would become a survival instinct.

172 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:18:09pm

re: #165 Rustler
The military does not support the gov't. It supports and defends the Constituition. If, God forbid, the sitting gov't tried to subborn the Constituition it would be the militaries duty to throw them out.

173 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:18:15pm

re: #167 Slumbering Behemoth

I consider Jones to be a complete menace. He personally inspired one guy to do harm to some pals of mine. The perp now sits in prison. Jones, however, is unrepentant.

174 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:18:33pm

re: #167 Slumbering Behemoth

The true blue, hard core black helicopter crowd are without political affiliation. That Jones character sees conspiracies no matter what party holds office.

Yup. They are loony. Back when I was teen working retail, I had one of them go of on a rant about how money was worthless because it wasn't backed by gold, "fraudbacks" and the tri-lateral commission and Bergermeisters. I just wanted to ring the guy up. Jeez.

175 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:18:57pm

re: #169 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeppers. That is the stuff.

176 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:19:04pm

re: #168 Gus 802 He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo this will waen the population off guns and make it easier for him to take them away. The there is the whole you have to turn in all old ammo and buy new ammo with tracing codes in it nonsense he's trying to push. Or do you assume hes gonna try to take the guns out of a well armed and equiped populace.

177 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:19:13pm

re: #170 SanFranciscoZionist

Ohhhhh. I love dogs. Just discovered ipuppycan.com.

ipuppyCAM.com. Sorry.

178 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:20:36pm

re: #172 pingjockey
That exactly what I said the post before that.

179 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:20:39pm

re: #176 Rustler

He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo ...

When did that start?

180 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:20:44pm

re: #176 Rustler

He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo this will waen the population off guns and make it easier for him to take them away. The there is the whole you have to turn in all old ammo and buy new ammo with tracing codes in it nonsense he's trying to push. Or do you assume hes gonna try to take the guns out of a well armed and equiped populace.

OK, well, I've always said they'd go after ammo. Don't look at me I'm just a plebe. The Nanny State will expand with these guys.

181 calcajun  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:21:34pm

Answer:

My God, it's full of stars.

Question: What happens when lasik goes wrong?

182 Bobblehead  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:21:42pm
183 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:22:15pm

re: #178 Rustler
Well GMTA. I missed that. Took that oath 6 times. I just about had a fit when Obama and Roberts screwed up the oath for President.

184 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:22:18pm

re: #179 Walter L. Newton
Actually hasn't passed yet was passed down to congress and failed I think.

185 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:22:25pm

re: #168 Gus 802

My guess is that Obama won't mess with the 2nd Amendment. We'll have to wait and see.

If they are smart he won't until he gets a second term. I'm hoping he won't at all.
He could still do some things to hurt gun owners and keep it under the radar.
He could write an executive order banning imported part kits or ammo for example. Most people wouldn't hear about it or care.

186 calcajun  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:22:41pm

re: #179 Walter L. Newton

When did that start?

Basically our sales tax on everything went to 8% as of today. Ammo is part of it. But, that's just the CA budget.

187 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:22:48pm

If you want to get an idea to where the liberals want to take America look at the UK, Australia, Oregon, California.

188 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:23:14pm

Posted this about the last thread.

OK -- when Charles starts in on Glenn Beck it is becoming too much. The Lizard army, if you agree with this, is about to be laid useless. Glenn is a person with high morals, high intellectual capability and the show he presented, replicated at hot air is simply a 'scenario' show. a what if? Recall, he's a talk show host, charged with getting ratings!

If you have not watched all three of the shows over at hot air (click on the link)...do not respond.

Glenn is simply trying to show us all how this may play out. He is on our side.

189 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:23:39pm

re: #176 Rustler

He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo this will waen the population off guns and make it easier for him to take them away. The there is the whole you have to turn in all old ammo and buy new ammo with tracing codes in it nonsense he's trying to push. Or do you assume hes gonna try to take the guns out of a well armed and equiped populace.

I haven't herad him push that. I have heard the owners of that company making the coded ammo you speak of push it.

190 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:23:43pm

re: #173 rawmuse

Geez, sorry to hear that. Hope your friends made out ok. And I agree, that guy is a menace.

191 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:24:10pm

re: #182 Bobblehead
That's fucking out of control intrusion. Sheesh what a mess. I'm surprised the island hasn't half sunk because Winston is spinning so fast.

192 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:24:34pm

re: #190 Slumbering Behemoth

The pals are fine, but they were lucky.

193 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:24:49pm

Blood tests would mean they're harvesting DNA samples. I think.

194 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:25:08pm

re: #187 Gus 802

If you want to get an idea to where the liberals want to take America look at the UK, Australia, Oregon, California Cuba.

195 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:25:14pm

re: #184 Rustler

Actually hasn't passed yet was passed down to congress and failed I think.

Then I'm confused. How could you make the statement "He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo..."

I can't even find anything that indicated that any bill went to congress?

196 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:25:57pm

re: #193 Gus 802

Maybe I'm just paranoid (probably) but I wondered about that, too.

197 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:26:12pm

re: #194 Killer Tomato

If you want to get an idea to where the liberals want to take America look at the UK, Australia, Oregon, California Cuba.

Ack! Really, probably so. Sean Pean and his pals. Might come down to it. I'm moving to the Philippines.

198 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:26:43pm

re: #165 Rustler

I doubt you will see most soldiers supporting the Govt in that endeavour.

Soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines will obey the commander in chief! we are not a third world country. Don't pretend to understand what the military might do, unless you were one of us.

199 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:26:48pm

re: #189 Hard Right

"A law that has just passed in California allows micro-tracing of bullets that have been discharged in a crime so that they can immediately be traced," said Obama. "This is something that California has passed over the strong objections of the NRA…That's the kind of common sense gun law that gun owners as well as victims of gun violence can get behind."


from here.

200 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:16pm

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

Should have adding trying to tax the hell not tax.

201 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:32pm

re: #195 Walter L. Newton

Then I'm confused. How could you make the statement "He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo..."

I can't even find anything that indicated that any bill went to congress?

I hadn't heard of that proposal even making it to Congress. Last I heard it was only on the state level and pushed by the company that makes the "coded" ammo. BTW, the company has multiple members that are known gun grabbers.

202 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:34pm

re: #186 calcajun

Basically our sales tax on everything went to 8% as of today. Ammo is part of it. But, that's just the CA budget.

Ok, but that is not a separate sales tax on ammo. That's not a bill passed to congress by the Obama administration. Nothing like this has happened yet.

And it makes no sense trying to imply that. It's not happened.

203 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:36pm

re: #196 Killer Tomato

Maybe I'm just paranoid (probably) but I wondered about that, too.

Sounds like it. It's like leaving an index finger print when you cash a check directly. It winds up straight with the Feds.

204 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:52pm

re: #198 soccerdad
I was one and it is the oath you swear to defend the Constitution not the nutjob running the Country.

205 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:59pm

re: #174 Hard Right

An elderly relative of mine has been going on about that whole gold backed dollar thing lately. I have no idea where she is getting this, as far as I know she gets all her news from the 700 Club. Is Robertson and Co. digging deeper into the troofer dirt?

206 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:28:04pm

re: #198 soccerdad
Only if the CinC is not abrogating his duty to the Constituition!

207 funky chicken  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:28:04pm

well, good night everybody.

oh, free science nerd tip, just in case anybody was fooled by those stupid acai berry/"total colon cleanse" web ads for weight loss....ex-lax will do the same thing for less money.

not that I recommend it or anything, but ex-lax is also manufactured by a real pharmaceutical company, so you will actually know what you are putting into your body.

208 freetoken  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:28:06pm

re: #188 soccerdad

posted a reply...

209 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:28:51pm

re: #204 Rustler

I was one and it is the oath you swear to defend the Constitution not the nutjob running the Country.

A lot of people have taken that oath, and it does NOT expire, except when you do.

210 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:28:55pm

re: #201 Hard Right

I hadn't heard of that proposal even making it to Congress. Last I heard it was only on the state level and pushed by the company that makes the "coded" ammo. BTW, the company has multiple members that are known gun grabbers.

Then let's not be talking about ammo tax, bills in congress etc, when it hasn't happened.

211 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:29:05pm

re: #198 soccerdad
I think you need to do some research on what the Military is sworn to do before you try making a statement calling me out like that when you claim to be in hte military yourself.

212 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:29:53pm

re: #199 Rustler

from here.

That's CA for you. That's the only state I heard it passing in.

213 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:31:46pm

re: #188 soccerdad

OK -- when Charles starts in on Glenn Beck it is becoming too much. The Lizard army, if you agree with this, is about to be laid useless. Glenn is a person with high morals, high intellectual capability and the show he presented, replicated at hot air is simply a 'scenario' show. a what if? Recall, he's a talk show host, charged with getting ratings!

If you have not watched all three of the shows over at hot air (click on the link)...do not respond.

Glenn is simply trying to show us all how this may play out. He is on our side.

Glen has jumped the shark.

214 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:32:08pm

re: #202 Walter L. Newton He had his proposal written up in early January to supposedly push into Congress when he took office never saw it pass assume that if he did the work to write it up he submitted it once he took office, if it wasn't passed down I apoligize maybe he realized something like that day 1 would actually hurt him badly.

215 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:32:13pm

re: #210 Walter L. Newton

Then let's not be talking about ammo tax, bills in congress etc, when it hasn't happened.

Agreed.
CA going with it is concerning to me since several other states seem to follow their lead everytime they jump off the cliff.

216 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:32:30pm

"All enemies, foriegn and domestic". That means the military has the DUTY to replace the gov't if said gov't is shredding the constituition.

217 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:32:44pm

re: #204 Rustler

I was one and it is the oath you swear to defend the Constitution not the nutjob running the Country.

Well good on ya, and thanks for your service.

So where is the mechanism for our guys to decide who is a nutjob, etc.? No...as much as I despise BHO, (would not piss on him in a gutter to put him out if he was on fire) I think your rhetoric is harmful. do not begin to talk about rebellion within our military. Not gonna happen.

218 calcajun  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:33:26pm

re: #202 Walter L. Newton

I know--that's why I qualified the statement. No one I know of has read through the Stimulus bill--Law, now-- to see what taxes are in there. There is no redacted version of which I know. I do anticipate a tax on ammo, much in the same vein as a "sin" tax on cigarettes and alcohol--which I'm sure will rise and will affect me a lot more than a tax on ammo. I tend to go through more Scotch than bullets.

219 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:33:30pm

re: #97 Hard Right

If ordered to attack other Americans, who knows whether or not they would.
If they are attacked I'm sure they would defend themselves and win. All I know is that if I saw an M1 Abrams parked in the street I would definitely leave it alone.

actually, the M-1 has many vulnerability issues, especially in the urban environment, although personally, i'd target the fuel tanker. %-)

(once an 11H, always an 11H. %-)

220 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:33:48pm

re: #212 Hard Right

That's CA for you. That's the only state I heard it passing in.

Not so.

221 Killian Bundy  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:00pm

20% in Los Angeles County receive public aid

One in five Los Angeles County residents -- nearly 2.2 million people -- are receiving public assistance payments or benefits, a level county officials say will rise significantly over the coming months as the fallout from the recession continues.

The percentage of people on county aid already equals the figure at the height of the 2001-03 recession and far exceeds the one in seven who needed help during the economic downturn in the early 1990s and the one in nine assisted in the collapse of the early 1980s.

/and people wonder why California is broke

222 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:01pm

re: #212 Hard Right
Yeah but Obama supported the bill and had as of about a week prior legislation to nationalize the CA serial tracking plan maybe someone told him it wouldn't work, but his intent was to put it to congress.

223 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:06pm

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

224 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:20pm

re: #218 calcajun

I know--that's why I qualified the statement. No one I know of has read through the Stimulus bill--Law, now-- to see what taxes are in there. There is no redacted version of which I know. I do anticipate a tax on ammo, much in the same vein as a "sin" tax on cigarettes and alcohol--which I'm sure will rise and will affect me a lot more than a tax on ammo. I tend to go through more Scotch than bullets.

Unless you're shooting at scotch bottles.

225 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:32pm

re: #220 rawmuse

Not so.

Hoax?

226 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:40pm

re: #219 redc1c4

actually, the M-1 has many vulnerability issues, especially in the urban environment, although personally, i'd target the fuel tanker. %-)

(once an 11H, always an 11H. %-)

I'll be holding the video camera while you do your thing.
//

227 schnapp  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:49pm

re: #187 Gus 802

what's that supposed to mean?

228 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:54pm

Good evening, lizards. Just here for a few minutes and watching out for the self inflicted Iron Fist rule. Who in the hell is artkey and why is he/she downdinging the thread.

229 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:55pm

re: #223 Killer Tomato

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

"I do swear this in the name of my mother and my father and the deity of my choice..."

230 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:35:21pm

re: #225 Gus 802

Hoax?

According to the NRA, of which I am a member, it is not a law. Yet.

231 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:35:34pm

re: #217 soccerdad
I never advocated rebellion. I stated if Glenn beck's civil war occured it would be a result of Obama stomping on hte Constitution and it would not be the military's responsibility to support the Government in that case.

232 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:36:00pm

re: #227 schnapp

what's that supposed to mean?

It means you look at the precedents, the current regulations, the laws in place, etc.

233 calcajun  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:36:07pm

re: #213 Walter L. Newton

Glen has jumped the shark.

No, Glen, like other conservative talk show hosts, is channeling Peter Finch's "Howard Beale". This is a mere ratings grab. The whole concept of Conservatism is in flux right now and everyone is grabbing for the reins.

234 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:36:26pm

Good night all. I just got an email I was waiting for, and now it's time to tuck in.

235 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:36:36pm

re: #198 soccerdad

Soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines will obey the commander in chief! we are not a third world country. Don't pretend to understand what the military might do, unless you were one of us.

i seem to remember something about "legal" and illegal" orders.......

236 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:37:12pm

re: #230 rawmuse

According to the NRA, of which I am a member, it is not a law. Yet.

OK. Yeah, you have to look out for that sort of thing.

237 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:37:39pm

re: #235 redc1c4
Oh yeah. Try to explain that mess to a buncha teenagers.

238 Idle Drifter  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:37:54pm

Good night all.

Somebody show me the way to go home. I'm tired and I want to go to bed.....

239 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:38:10pm

re: #220 rawmuse

Not so.

Thanks for the info. I follow this type of thing and hadn't heard it passing anywhere. They have been trying in various states, tho

240 Syrah  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:38:22pm

re: #198 soccerdad

I swore to protect the constitution, not the CnC.

Following orders is not an acceptable excuse for stupidity.

241 calcajun  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:38:34pm

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

Unless you're shooting at scotch bottles.

How did you know I go shooting and empty the Scotch bottle in one event. It is a sin to shoot a full one.

242 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:38:51pm

Fact checking is not one of our strong points.

243 dmjboose  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:38:59pm

re: #91 schnapp

i never liked "objectivism" anyway.

please don't get the impression that Pamela Geller is a good representative of objectivism. I'm pretty sure an objectivist would know not to compromise with neo-nazis. I remember going hopefully to her blog and feeling woefully mislead by the title.

244 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:39:00pm

re: #238 Idle Drifter

I think we need a bigger boat.

245 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:39:37pm

re: #238 Idle Drifter

LOL My dad used to play that on the ukeleli (sp?)

246 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:39:38pm

re: #235 redc1c4

i seem to remember something about "legal" and illegal" orders.......

Good luck making that judgement re:bho. It will take a pretty obtuse order from BHO to make our boys 'take a stand'.

247 schnapp  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:39:46pm

re: #232 Gus 802
well the index of economic freedom places australia higher than the US, so i don't know what you mean by that.

248 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:39:47pm

re: #242 Gus 802

Fact checking is not one of our strong points.

Actually, this used to be known as the site that 'fact checked your ass'.

249 Throbert McGee  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:40:17pm

re: #129 pingjockey

Thttttbbbrtttt!

You rang?

P.S. You spell worse than Rugby.

250 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:40:47pm

re: #247 schnapp

well the index of economic freedom places australia higher than the US, so i don't know what you mean by that.

My comment was in reference to gun rights.

251 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:06pm

Man I hate that almost anything gun or ammo related is auto blocked at work which makes it hard to find and link the info I'd like to.

252 Tamron  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:08pm

PROPOSED VEHICLE MILES-TRAVELED (VMT) TAX - in addition to today's gasoline tax.

A blue-ribbon national transportation commission is expected to release a report next week recommending a VMT tax.

The system would require all cars and trucks be equipped with global satellite positioning technology, a transponder, a clock and other equipment to record how many miles a vehicle was driven, whether it was driven on highways or secondary roads, and even whether it was driven during peak traffic periods or off-peak hours.

The device would tally how much tax motorists owed depending upon their road use. Motorists would pay the amount owed when it was downloaded, probably at gas stations at first, but an alternative eventually would be needed.

Rob Atkinson, chairman of the National Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing Commission, the blue-ribbon group that is developing future transportation funding options, said moving to a national VMT tax would take about a decade.


Next will be the air you breathe, the water you drink, and the amount of keystrokes you type each day. (However, you'll get a tax break for watching more than 5 hours of television each day.)

"Look into my eyes, you are getting sleepy........."
.

253 Hard Right  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:08pm

re: #248 Killer Tomato

Actually, this used to be known as the site that 'fact checked your ass'.

We still do, but it is late.
In fact, this lizard is calling it a night. Goodnight lizards and don't get to close to the porch light. It is very hot.

254 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:10pm

re: #249 Throbert McGee
Mwahaha! I was giving Sharmuta a raspberry!

255 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:13pm

re: #248 Killer Tomato

Actually, this used to be known as the site that 'fact checked your ass'.

Yep, Dan Rather and CBS. I saw him once.

256 calcajun  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:55pm

Night gang!

257 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:59pm

re: #246 soccerdad Sorta like telling Soldiers to kill their fellow citizens for supporting the Constitution rather than the president?

258 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:42:18pm

re: #231 Rustler

I never advocated rebellion. I stated if Glenn beck's civil war occured it would be a result of Obama stomping on hte Constitution and it would not be the military's responsibility to support the Government in that case.


ok - then I stand down. Apologize if I misconstrued your post. I almost resigned my commission under Bill. I effing HATE liberals and all they stand for.

259 pingjockey  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:43:03pm

G'night folks.

260 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:43:18pm

re: #242 Gus 802

Fact checking is not one of our strong points.

LGF is the blog that fact checks your ass, but Heaven forbid we fact check one of our own and have integrity.

261 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:43:33pm

re: #226 Hard Right

I'll be holding the video camera while you do your thing.
//

good: they're more likely to shoot the guy with the camera, since, from a distance, it looks like an RPG or similar weapon........ i'll be a few blocks away, cutting off the fuel supply, because once that gas hog burns up what's in the tanks, it's a very expensive, poorly located pill box. HEMMET trucks, otoh, are soft targets. logistics is the ball and chain of armored warfare.

262 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:43:37pm

re: #257 Rustler

Sorta like telling Soldiers to kill their fellow citizens for supporting the Constitution rather than the president?

Like I said...good luck. In the scenario you present...clearly a fairly easy call.

263 schnapp  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:43:59pm

re: #243 dmjboose

my comment wasn't really related to the thread so i shouldn't have posted it. objectivism just doesn't appeal to me. not being personal or anything. it didn't have anything to do with geller.

264 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:44:51pm

re: #258 soccerdad
This hole convo started because of Glen Beck's civil war talk. So Gus mentioned that anyone who followed suit would have to worry about apaches and A10's and such I provided the counter point most Americans aren't going to rebell unless the president violates his own oath to support and defend the Constitution.

265 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:44:53pm

re: #260 Sharmuta

LGF is the blog that fact checks your ass, but Heaven forbid we fact check one of our own and have integrity.

Yeah. I know personally the self censorship thing gets old fast. I've seen some BS coming from our so called allies than I have fingers on both hands.

266 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:45:01pm

re: #260 Sharmuta

Link?
;-)

How you doin girl? You ever sleep?

267 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:45:18pm

re: #240 Syrah

I swore to protect the constitution, not the CnC.

Following orders is not an acceptable excuse for stupidity.


Who decides what is stupid? You?

268 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:45:33pm

Good night, all.

269 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:46:26pm

re: #264 Rustler

This hole convo started because of Glen Beck's civil war talk. So Gus mentioned that anyone who followed suit would have to worry about apaches and A10's and such I provided the counter point most Americans aren't going to rebell unless the president violates his own oath to support and defend the Constitution.


Then we are in violent ageement. Nice talking with ya.

270 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:46:40pm

re: #260 Sharmuta

LGF is the blog that fact checks your ass, but Heaven forbid we fact check one of our own and have integrity.

Oh you can go ahead and fact check or criticize one of our own, but you better be prepared to turn in your "True Conservative" badge and receive your "Libtard RINO" badge.
/only half sarc

271 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:47:01pm

re: #267 soccerdad
In the End yes you are the final one in hte decision making chain if you feel the order was unlawfull then by all means disobey but remember you still have to defend your decision after the fact likely in a court of law as the Prisoner abusers learned.

272 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:47:22pm

Hmm.

273 Rustler  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:47:23pm

re: #269 soccerdad
You too.

274 Syrah  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:47:58pm

re: #267 soccerdad

Who decides what is stupid? You?

In the end, the responsibility is always personal.

275 redc1c4  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:48:01pm

re: #267 soccerdad

Who decides what is stupid? You?

each individual for themselves.

276 Killer Tomato  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:50:02pm

re: #274 Syrah

In the end, the responsibility is always personal.

Maybe in the military, but in the rest of the country more and more no one's responsible for anything - everyone's a 'victim' of something or another.
wheeeeeeee!

277 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:50:11pm

It always comes down to personal responsibility. And being able to face your own actions either good or bad.

278 rawmuse  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:50:19pm

re: #274 Syrah

In the end, the responsibility is always personal.

That is why giving an order is a hell of a responsibility.

279 Fried Spam  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:51:10pm

re: #66 Charles

Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.

Are you referring to Steyn's post today about Aqsa Parvez?

280 Sharmuta  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:51:10pm

re: #266 Killer Tomato

Link?
;-)

How you doin girl? You ever sleep?

I'm going to bed shortly. Link? How about one to contact Mark Steyn?

281 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:51:28pm

re: #276 Killer Tomato

Maybe in the military, but in the rest of the country more and more no one's responsible for anything - everyone's a 'victim' of something or another.
wheeeeeeee!

True Dat. That there is a problem and a thread all by itself!

282 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:52:21pm

re: #281 soccerdad

I left a question for you down stairs.

283 [deleted]  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:56:41pm
284 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:57:04pm

re: #278 rawmuse

That is why giving an order is a hell of a responsibility.

Again...True Dat.

Redc1c4, Syrah, and Rustler...thanks for the intellectual excercise. I think we part ways in violent agreement.

I have a feeling that, were you with guys/people with me at Barnaby's (in west chester) tonight, we would have been saying loudly, NO, NO, JUST listen for a second! HERE'S WHAT I MEANT...BLAH, BLAH, FUCKING BLAH. And we would have ended up buying beers for each other.

I'm going to sleep now. talk to y'all in the am.

285 soccerdad  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:57:49pm

re: #282 Slumbering Behemoth

I left a question for you down stairs.


sorry man...going to sleep. I'll look at it in the am.

286 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:58:22pm

OK Soccerdad.

287 Gus  Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:59:27pm

re: #283 ploome hineni

don't they test for steroids?

don;t tell me this is a natural woman?

/gynecologist?

/urologist

288 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:00:20am

Goodnight, lizards. Like I said, I was just here for a drive-by. I got my LGF cookbooks today and they're great. I am giving one as a gift. Just reading the choice comments and puns , as well as the artwork, makes it worth it, even if you aren't much of a cook. Buzzsamonkey's tree-hugging poem is hilarious. I am surprised I missed the post at the time.

Take care, all.

289 Killer Tomato  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:01:08am

re: #280 Sharmuta

I'm going to bed shortly. Link? How about one to contact Mark Steyn?

Perfect thing to do to end the day.
Thanks.

'night, all!

290 freetoken  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:04:41am

re: #283 ploome hineni

don;t tell me this is a natural woman?

Ooohhh... an invitation to discuss once again "natural formations"

/much better than the un-natural ones, imo

291 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:05:35am

Evening/morning all. Have the wrenches stopped swinging yet?

292 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:08:28am

re: #291 BlueCanuck

Yeah, I think it's pretty safe to say... Ah! Duck!

G'nite Blue, G'nite Lizards.

293 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:10:47am

A teaser from buzzsawmonkey's poem in re the tree sitters:

"A tree with pristine bark so chaste
Befouled and streaked by hippie waste" LOL

Get the cookbook! The recipes look good too!

294 gmsc  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:11:32am

Today in History, February 22:

295 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:15:06am

For chuckles. Disregard the comments or the guy that posted it. Let it stand on it's own merits.

296 redc1c4  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:16:26am

re: #291 BlueCanuck

Evening/morning all. Have the wrenches stopped swinging yet?

we have swinging wenches? where?

297 Throbert McGee  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:17:34am

re: #188 soccerdad

OK -- when Charles starts in on Glenn Beck it is becoming too much. The Lizard army, if you agree with this, is about to be laid useless. Glenn is a person with high morals, high intellectual capability

Dude, I'm pretty sure that Charles didn't attack Beck's morals or his intellect -- just Beck's poor judgment (and perhaps overall lack of wisdom) as evidenced by this scaremongering episode.

298 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:17:40am

re: #296 redc1c4

Probably in the lounge by now.

299 Oldasdirt  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:18:54am

Hey,Hey People,Long time since last here.Howdy to you all.

300 abaleh  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:19:14am

looks like the US is short a few Islamists:

Somali children leave US for Jihad

Dozens of Somali children have left the United States in secret to join the Islamist fight against the foreign forces in Somalia.


...

Abdi blames the US federal police for her young boy’s disappearance – according to her, it is because of lack of good safeguards at airports.

“How can a very young boy be allowed to fly on a plane? The police are irresponsible,” she says.

301 Gus  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:19:29am

re: #295 BlueCanuck

For chuckles. Disregard the comments or the guy that posted it. Let it stand on it's own merits.


[Video]

Oh yeah! Here's my response!

Kumbaya

/Doh!

302 redc1c4  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:21:01am

how low will the market go on Monday, after they've read and digested Juggy's plan for the budget?

money quotes:
Obama also seeks to increase tax collections, mainly by making good on his promise to eliminate some of the temporary tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003. While the budget would keep the breaks that benefit middle-income families, it would eliminate them for wealthy taxpayers, defined as families earning more than $250,000 a year. Those tax breaks would be permitted to expire on schedule in 2011. That means the top tax rate would rise from 35 percent to 39.6 percent, the tax on capital gains would jump to 20 percent from 15 percent for wealthy filers and the tax on estates worth more than $3.5 million would be maintained at the current rate of 45 percent.

And Obama's budget seeks to tax the earnings of hedge fund managers as normal income rather than at the lower 15 percent capital gains rate.

we are *so* screwed.

303 redc1c4  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:25:59am

re: #302 redc1c4

such good news it killed the thread.....

304 Syrah  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:26:48am

re: #276 Killer Tomato

re: #278 rawmuse

I want to be careful to not misrepresent myself.

I took the oath as is required for uncompensated personal. I did not wear a uniform. I never issued an order. I was appointed to a federal office.

305 Mardukhai  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:28:55am

Look, Glenn Beck is a very funny guy when he's on stage, delivering his stand-up material. So are a lot of strange people. That doesn't mean I like to hear him mouth off on TV night after night. I don't like ideological screamers and pontificators. I would prefer to learn the nuts and bolts of an issue from people who don't already have their minds made up and their egos involved.

(Okay, I like O'Reilly -- he may have his very large ego involved, but he will climb down from a position when presented with detailed facts. Glenn Beck, he just... On the other hand, I think he's really scared for the future. I know the feeling.)

306 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:30:02am

re: #302 redc1c4

Looks like I've got all the precious metals I'm going to get for the time being (thanks juggy!). I'm not completely unprepared, but what I have right now is kinda like bringing an axe handle to a gunfight.....

307 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:32:09am

re: #306 Fenway_Nation //Well if your really quiet and noone sees ya an axehandle to the back of a gun carriers head will solve the whole gunless issue :P.

308 Gus  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:33:09am

re: #303 redc1c4

such good news it killed the thread.....

Yeah. It's depressing. The end result will be that they'll just take more money from the productive class and the investment class to give to the government to give to the unproductive and ignorant class that will continue to be unproductive and ignorant regardless of what government program they'll suck off of. The poverty class will just use the money to watch more Springer reruns.

309 Oldasdirt  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:33:46am

My computer was down a long,long time.All I had was AM radio,so did I miss much here.

310 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:33:49am

re: #305 Mardukhai

Yeah, Glenn may be scared for the future but he doesn't have to broadcast to everyone as well. I think I got fed up with all the Y2K hype, not to mention listening to all that crap on conspiracy radio.

311 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:34:33am

re: #308 Gus 802
Woohoo today on Jerry Springer Unwed teenage welfare mothers and why Bush is to blame. Jerry Jerry Jerry

312 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:35:48am

re: #307 Rustler

Or drape a sheet over it and tell my opponents that its really an HK-91 or SPAS-12 before they can take aim at me....

/

313 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:35:55am

re: #305 Mardukhai
His personal fear is no excuse for him to Sensationalise those fears inspire them in the rest of the populace and create his own Self Fulfilling Prophecy tho.

314 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:36:05am

I don't have any proof of this, perhaps someone might have a link to it, but I thought I remember Glenn Beck either being a troofer or at least entertaining the notion for a short time back when the troofer movement first started to get really obnoxious (during the 2004 election cycle). Am I remembering correctly or am I confusing him with someone else?

315 Gus  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:36:36am

re: #311 Rustler

Woohoo today on Jerry Springer Unwed teenage welfare mothers and why Bush is to blame. Jerry Jerry Jerry

Yeah, just about. I hate to sound mean but these people are addicted to their victim status. Somehow I don't see them using the money to learn a trade or take some courses in physics, calculus, or history.

316 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:36:40am

re: #312 Fenway_Nation
Lol nah that will just blow up in your face when they realize 1 on 1 they outgunned so all fire on you.

317 Killian Bundy  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:37:20am

Man, there's going to be some more whackings on the last thread when Charles wakes up.

/may as well go pay your last respects now

318 Gus  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:38:36am

re: #317 Killian Bundy

Man, there's going to be some more whackings on the last thread when Charles wakes up.

/may as well go pay your last respects now

Yeah, well SOCCER never was popular in this country.

/rimshot

319 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:39:56am

Still haven't found the most recent missing girl in Florida but the Sex predator was picked up, so maybe some good news unless he already got rid of the body(god forbid).

320 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:42:06am

re: #308 Gus 802

Bread and Circuses. Now where did I here about something like that again?

321 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:43:16am

re: #320 BlueCanuck

Star Trek?

322 Gus  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:43:20am

re: #319 Rustler

Still haven't found the most recent missing girl in Florida but the Sex predator was picked up, so maybe some good news unless he already got rid of the body(god forbid).

Someday we'll bring back insane asylums and stiffer penalties for perps like this. Until then, we all have to suffer this type of insanity. We can thank Geraldo and many other for this.

323 Gus  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:44:35am

re: #320 BlueCanuck

Bread and Circuses. Now where did I here about something like that again?

Guess it never sunk in. Oh well. Here we go again. Sadly.

324 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:44:38am

re: #320 BlueCanuck


Jeez, Blue.....how's it feel to live in a country that apparently has a more pro-military, pro-free enterprise government than the one to your south?

325 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:45:36am

re: #321 ArchangelMichael

heh, nice. One geek cookie for you, another for getting the reference in a Star Trek answer. :)

326 Gus  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:45:54am

Good night!

327 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:46:10am

re: #324 Fenway_Nation

The universe just shook. Scary isn't it?

328 Gus  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:46:20am

Stay out of trouble and remember, don't mess with the CO. ;)

329 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:46:30am

re: #326 Gus 802


Bye gus!

330 Oldasdirt  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:49:35am

Geez,,Thanks people.

331 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:50:46am

re: #314 ArchangelMichael Looks like he is a huge asshole so he may have believed it. But from the article there it seems more that he didbelieves the troofer theory and merely hates because they complain to much.

332 redc1c4  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:54:54am

re: #308 Gus 802

Yeah. It's depressing. The end result will be that they'll just take more money from the productive class and the investment class to give to the government to give to the unproductive and ignorant class that will continue to be unproductive and ignorant regardless of what government program they'll suck off of. The poverty class will just use the money to watch more Springer reruns.

not to mention punishing people for creating wealth or jobs.

why invest if they're just going to take it from you?

333 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:00:04am
334 Cobdenite  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:02:44am

To be fair, Steyn is defending Pamella Geller based on her attempts to create a memorial for Aqsa Parvez, who currently lies in a rather unmarked grave. This probably does not indicate that Steyn supports the entire panoply of racism and insanity that is Geller and her cohort.

335 redc1c4  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:04:04am

re: #334 Cobdenite

To be fair, Steyn is defending Pamella Geller based on her attempts to create a memorial for Aqsa Parvez, who currently lies in a rather unmarked grave. This probably does not indicate that Steyn supports the entire panoply of racism and insanity that is Geller and her cohort.

but it's a stupid idea to begin with, therefore supporting it is stupid too. the facts of *who* is pushing the idea is just insult to injury.

336 Crossie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:07:02am

re: #83 Gus 802

Actually, I was talking with an Obama voter last week. For 3.5 hours. He's more of a libertarian and a free thinker. Sceptic. Anyway, he talked up the stock up on food and arms aspect. Former USMC.

Did you find out why he voted for Obama?

337 iLikeCandy  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:07:21am

re: #333 Consanescerion

Good God, that's pure evil. Do you have a link?

338 gmsc  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:07:54am

Wow--The Era of Big Government Really IS Over!

I read that California's state government is so bankrupt that it may go into federal receivership, with the U.S. government bailing it out. This will be a first in American history. California's politicians act as if they are victims of some unforeseen natural disaster. Anyone with a shred of mental integrity knows that they spent the state into bankruptcy, with other people's money--and now demand other people's money from outside of their state, to clean up the mess. What happens when the other 49 states go into receivership? Will the federal government bail all of them out, too? And, when this happens, will the federal government go into receivership? Who will bail IT out? Certainly not private industry. Most of private industry is being bailed out (more by the day) by the federal government.

If there's any silver lining in this unraveling disaster, it's watching state governments fall to pieces from lack of money. Businesses cannot recover until government gets out of the way. The worse things get, the more people will be forced to realize that either government gets out of the way, or it's the end of America. The end of government as we have known it--as a reckless, welfare-pressure group redistributive state--will be a great thing for mankind. Either government as we know it goes--or we all go. I sure hope it's the former and not the latter. But either way, Big Government has reached its closing chapters. The money has run out and the productive source of American energy--thanks to Big Government--is drying up. I'm so sad about the decline of American productive energy, but I'm so happy that government now has so much less to suck on.

I'm just starting to get it. The collapse of America, by definition, means the collapse of Big Government. If enough people want it, this can be a whole new beginning for America. Stay tuned and survive, if you can.

339 hazzyday  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:10:48am

re: #188 soccerdad

Posted this about the last thread.

He posted that because it gets him off. He would like to see it happen. He seems like a nice guy with a nice wife. Some everyday chops. end of timer people are usually in cults. Haley Comet types. Evolution passes them all by.

340 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:11:50am

re: #333 Consanescerion

I never heard that. That is horrible. Is it really true?

341 stevieray  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:14:14am

re: #335 redc1c4

but it's a stupid idea to begin with, therefore supporting it is stupid too. the facts of *who* is pushing the idea is just insult to injury.

Pamela Gellar is the wrong person to be pushing this idea... that is true.

Aqsa Parvez was killed by her father and brothers, and by all accounts, her mother is indifferent to her death. A grave marker is not going to come from her family.

The desire to see a marker there is a gesture of humanity. It is not "stupid".

342 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:17:05am

re: #341 stevieray

Trouble is who is pushing the idea. She's been turned down flat by the people running the cemetary. There is a bit more to the story, but I don't have the links handy. A real shame other wise. Besides it seems to be driven more by agenda then humanity.

343 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:18:46am

re: #339 hazzyday

Yeah, heard it before,"This is the way the world ends, this is the way the world ends"... We don't need that now.

344 Crossie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:22:07am

re: #338 gmsc

Wow--The Era of Big Government Really IS Over!

We have a similar situation here in Australia. New South Wales, the biggest state, is also in dire straits mainly due to mismanagement by politicians who kept raising state taxes until the most productive businesses moved interstate. As the taxes intake declined the government raised taxes again with even more businesses leaving. The result is that NSW, the Australian powerhouse, has been reduced to begging for funds from the federal government.

345 gmsc  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:22:28am
346 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:22:47am

Clarke has some manuscripts that are sealed until like 30 years after his death. I wonder where they are today.

I hated 2001: A Space Odyssey.

347 gmsc  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:23:20am

re: #344 Crossie

We have a similar situation here in Australia. New South Wales, the biggest state, is also in dire straits mainly due to mismanagement by politicians who kept raising state taxes until the most productive businesses moved interstate. As the taxes intake declined the government raised taxes again with even more businesses leaving. The result is that NSW, the Australian powerhouse, has been reduced to begging for funds from the federal government.

So far, it's not enough for them to make a cause-and-effect connection, unfortunately.

348 stevieray  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:24:21am

re: #338 gmsc

Except for the last part about the collapse of America, I hope he is right.

The advanced nations have driven the redistributive state further than it can healthily go... even without the current economic mess, Europe, America, and the Far East can't afford the entitlements they have already promised. The global recession simply moved the day of reckoning forward by a decade or so.

349 stevieray  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:25:19am

re: #346 Afrocity

Clarke has some manuscripts that are sealed until like 30 years after his death. I wonder where they are today.

I hated 2001: A Space Odyssey.

The book or the movie?

350 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:26:30am

re: #349 stevieray

I don't care for either, but the movie sucks.

351 redc1c4  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:26:52am

re: #347 gmsc

So far, it's not enough for them to make a cause-and-effect connection, unfortunately.


and New York is right behind California......

352 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:28:27am

re: #346 Afrocity


I hated 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I hated the actual year 2001.

353 redc1c4  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:28:39am

i'm for bed...... long afternoon at the range, and we've got a bidness meeting at lunchtime tomorrow.

hope you enjoy the saturday night special fruitcup: it's cheap and readily available!

hasta y'all......

L8r!

354 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:28:54am
355 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:29:16am

re: #350 Afrocity
Both were plodding affairs. The series didn't get much better IMHO. Some of his stuff was good, and thought provoking. He definitely wasn't one of the best writters, but he was at least one of the good ones.

356 stevieray  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:31:47am

re: #350 Afrocity

I saw it when it came out.

I was 8 or 9.

At the time, I liked the spaceships and the monkeys, but had no idea what was going on.

Still don't at some parts.

357 gmsc  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:32:03am

re: #351 redc1c4

and New York is right behind California......

...in a perfect storm!

In a preview of political fights to come, both New York State and California budgets are being crippled by outsized public sector union pension obligations that are now coming due in a perfect storm—a combination of an aging population, a declining tax base, and a fiscal crisis.

358 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:32:19am

re: #352 Fenway_Nation

I hated the actual year 2001.

I bet you liked 2004, didn't you?

359 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:34:09am

re: #355 BlueCanuck

sounds like a woman you meet at a bar during closing time.

360 Throbert McGee  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:35:10am

re: #169 SanFranciscoZionist

Flakes, Turkish Delight bars, anything by Cadbury, really...Jaffa cakes.

I'm guessing that these do not have the slightest resemblance to actual lokum (the Turkish name for "Turkish Delight"), since I don't think I've ever met anyone who was a fan of it -- even in Turkey. I mean, it's not lutefisk-bad, but it's a pretty disappointing candy.

361 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:35:20am
362 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:35:23am

re: #354 Consanescerion

Thank you for the link. I was hoping you were making that up, but I am gratified that lizards can relay truth which is what this website is all about, mostly.

363 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:37:01am

re: #354 Consanescerion

Here's a source:

[Link: findarticles.com...]

But I'm not relying on those quotes... my friend spoke with relatives of some of the houseboys. Poverty is crushing there, some families surrender their children to such fates for monetary compensation. It's why pedophilia sex tours are common in that part of the world.

This and this refute those claims. You have to scroll down to find it on the second link.

364 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:38:59am

re: #363 ArchangelMichael

And yes, that first link worked 2 minutes ago, I don't know wtf is wrong with it now.

365 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:41:19am

re: #359 Afrocity

sounds like a woman you meet at a bar during closing time.

LOL, not quite that bad.

/don't ask, cause I won't tell. ;)

366 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:41:38am

re: #363 ArchangelMichael

The first link I got was 404 not found. The second he"categorically" denied it. No raising hell to high heaven?

367 TheMatrix31  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:42:44am

How can I convince my parents to move our family out of CA?

368 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:43:59am

re: #346 Afrocity

I liked the book, loved the movie!I bought it on vhs and then dvd; next blue ray:)

369 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:44:10am

re: #364 ArchangelMichael

the first link worked for me. Now that my memory has been refreshed on that subject. I do remember it being bandied around a fair bit. Almost one of those type of rumours that just won't quit. No matter what people have had to say about it.

370 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:45:00am

re: #367 TheMatrix31

Show them a picture of what their skin will look like in 10 years.

371 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:45:37am

re: #368 BatGuano

Have fun with that!

372 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:45:45am

re: #367 TheMatrix31

ON your knees young man/woman!

373 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:47:09am

re: #371 Afrocity

I need a blue ray player; can you hook me up? :)

374 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:47:14am

re: #366 BatGuano

All links I can find on BBC by searching for it, if they have w_asia in the URL are returning 404s but there are several.

The first link stated that investigations found no evidence of this.

Do you really believe that if there was anything to this it wouldn't have been major news?

375 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:47:39am

re: #358 Afrocity

2007 gets an honorable mention, too.

/So many good years to choose from for the Boston sports fan.

376 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:47:58am

re: #373 BatGuano

No I am still using laser discs.

377 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:48:42am

re: #375 Fenway_Nation

...yeah about 2 more years than Cubs fans

378 TheMatrix31  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:49:19am

re: #372 BatGuano

ON your knees young man/woman!

I've been doing that for a long time already....

**sigh**

379 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:52:35am

re: #377 Afrocity

Ah- but Chicago has more than one team to choose from, including another seemingly hopless, cursed team that got off the eight decade championship shnide not too long ago....

Which windy city baseball team is yours?

/Also can't beat original 6 hockey...

380 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:53:52am

re: #379 Fenway_Nation

Cubs Fan of course, but I am also a Red Sox Nation girl

381 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:56:41am

re: #374 ArchangelMichael

Oh, if there was something to this it should be major news. When I wrote, "raising hell to high heaven," I meant what I would do if similarly charged. I do not want to believe this of Clarke and have no reason to believe it. Sometimes the strengths of the internet are its weaknesses.

382 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:59:09am

re: #376 Afrocity

Oh..my.. God..I'm sorry. let me fill you in on the lat twenty years... :)

383 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:59:27am

re: #381 BatGuano

As well, the story was broken by a U.K. paper a couple of days before he was supposed to be Knighted. To convienent for the timing I think.

384 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

385 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:00:21am

All of this talk of homosexuals lead me to read up on it:

. ..For example, male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding. In a well-publicized story from 2004, the Central Park Zoo in the United States replaced one male couple's stone with a fertile egg, which the couple then raised as their own offspring.

386 gmsc  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:01:39am

re: #384 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

Thank you!

387 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:02:17am

re: #384 littleoldlady

No thanks, pureed prunes for me.

388 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:02:42am

re: #381 BatGuano

Oh, if there was something to this it should be major news. When I wrote, "raising hell to high heaven," I meant what I would do if similarly charged. I do not want to believe this of Clarke and have no reason to believe it. Sometimes the strengths of the internet are its weaknesses.

I don't deny the slight possibility it is true but I don't want to believe it. That being said I know a big stink would have been made if anything was turned found. I also don't think he would have been stupid enough to talk about it openly unless he was on his deathbed at the time, and he wasn't. Also every source I can find on the Internet where that leans toward it not being true is rather legitimate, and every source claiming it to be true, rather shady. Random blogs, tabloid sites, etc.

The claim as stated and the so called evidence of it presented does not pass my bullshit detector.

389 TheMatrix31  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:03:02am

re: #384 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!

Helllllllllllo!

390 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:03:43am

gmsc! :-)

re: #387 Afrocity

Hey! I'm the littleoldlady around here! ;-)

Afrocity! :-)

391 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:04:01am

re: #388 ArchangelMichael

I don't deny the slight possibility it is true but I don't want to believe it. That being said I know a big stink would have been made if anything was turned found. I also don't think he would have been stupid enough to talk about it openly unless he was on his deathbed at the time, and he wasn't. Also every source I can find on the Internet where that leans toward it not being true is rather legitimate, and every source claiming it to be true, rather shady. Random blogs, tabloid sites, etc.

The claim as stated and the so called evidence of it presented does not pass my bullshit detector.

PIMF

392 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:04:02am

Matrix! :-)

393 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:04:50am

re: #384 littleoldlady

Thank you littleoldlady.

394 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:06:08am

BatGuano! :-)

395 Macker  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:06:51am

re: #356 stevieray

I saw it when it came out.

I was 8 or 9.

At the time, I liked the spaceships and the monkeys, but had no idea what was going on.

Still don't at some parts.

Here, have some chamalla!

396 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:07:51am

re: #380 Afrocity

I'm a transplant living out on the West Coast and typically my best bet to catch the Red Sox in person is when the play the Angels (including the ALDS, it seems) or those even more rare occasions when they play the Dodgers or Padres for inter-league. Having said that, I actually got to follow the Red Sox around a little in '05...starting w/ some interleague play in St. Louis before they moved up the road to play the Cubs @ Wrigley. I caught the opening game before flying back- Maddux beat Arroyo in a Friday afternoon affair. I loved Wrigley park, it was one of those places I always wanted to see in person and it would've been a shame to miss the opportunity to catch the Red Sox in the National League's most celebrated ballpark.

Thought about going back last year when the ChiSox were hosting the BoSox on the south side and the Cubs and Cards were going at it on the north side. I scrubbed those plans when I ....

A) Spent most of my stimulus money- remember those $300/$600/$1200 checks the dems sneered at?- on a day-trip to Seattle to catch the BoSox vs Mariners and

B) Was invited back east by my family for my granpa's 89th birthday and got to catch the Sox/Yankees at The House That Ruth Built Epstein Wrecked on the 4th of July, the first 2 games between the BoSox and Twins @ Fenway and a side trip to the HOF in Cooperstown...

/worthwhile trip, but no Giordanos deep-dish pizza

397 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:08:19am
398 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:09:21am

Good morning littleoldlady. Thank you for the fruitcup.

399 iLikeCandy  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:09:29am

re: #367 TheMatrix31

How can I convince my parents to move our family out of CA?

Oh matrix, little matrix, how old art thou?

If you're over the age of emancipation, inform your parents that you are going to move yourself and they can follow you or not.

Inevitably, they will follow you. (In fact they will probably move in with you.)

400 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:09:55am

BlueCanuck! :-)

401 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:11:17am
402 iLikeCandy  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:11:23am

Off to bed.

403 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:11:47am

re: #396 Fenway_Nation

I went to graduate school i n Boston and lived near Fenway Park.

I like the spirit of the Red Sox.

I have only been to four ball games, 2 white sox, 1 Cubs, 1 Cubs V. Yankees game in Yankee Stadium.

If you ever come back to Chicago, I will take you for pizza.

404 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:14:02am

re: #401 Consanescerion

No never heard of any of this and no offense intended, but I'm not just taking the word of some guy on a blog with 3rd hand info.

405 TheMatrix31  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:15:50am

re: #399 iLikeCandy

Oh matrix, little matrix, how old art thou?

If you're over the age of emancipation, inform your parents that you are going to move yourself and they can follow you or not.

Inevitably, they will follow you. (In fact they will probably move in with you.)

I'm 21. But I go to school here so I'm tied down at the moment. I want my parents to take my little brother and sister though, and I'd catch up later.

406 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:17:40am

re: #383 BlueCanuck

Quite so.re: #397 Afrocity

Oh, Afrocity, I trust you implicitly. If he said that, is damning. The answer to the question, " Who hasn't?" is plenty!

407 freetoken  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:19:35am

Looks like impending meltdowns on the downstairs thread...

Doomer Pr0n... it makes the morning go by so much faster! (But, it does hasten spoilage of the fruit!)

408 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:19:57am

littleoldlady, do you have an opinion on Arthur C. Clarke?

409 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:23:41am

re: #403 Afrocity

A gajillion updings ;P

You never caught a game in Fenway itself? For all its quirks and flaws, I love it- there are no signs or signals prompting the crowd to cheer or applaud (I was actually a little disappointed to see something like that in Yankee stadium last year). And although it's a bit early to contemplate it, I honestly hope that the Bruins will be hosting an outdoor game in Fenway against Montreal next season's NHL winter classic like what they did with Wrigley on new year's day....

There are no more passionate, knowledgable and loyal fans in baseball than the denizens of Red Sox Nation. (Granted you could also throw in obnoxious, drunken, boorish, overbearing....).

410 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:24:14am

Arch the first link is working for me now.

411 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:24:58am

From the first article linked

Police interviewed three young men who had told the Sunday Mirror they had sex with Sir Arthur when they were teenagers.

Inquiry is not over

Mr Nizam said all three had now withdrawn their allegations.

He said: "We have now sent the reports to the Attorney General to seek his opinion on how to proceed with this case."

412 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:26:51am

re: #411 Rustler

Say it ain't so, Arthur, say it ain't so.

413 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:27:10am

re: #407 freetoken

The last time I had checked there were something like 5 sticks. Never thought that Glenn Beck had that many supporters.

414 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:27:58am

re: #408 BatGuano

I didn't like the movie.

/what?
;-)

415 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:31:20am

re: #414 littleoldlady

Ha ha, Fair enough. I hated Titanic. Not that you said you did. I love America!

416 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:32:27am

re: #412 BatGuano

I will withhold judgement. He admitt to bisexual behavior not molesting teenage boys in the Playboy article. I find it oddly Ironic that when Sir Clarke's knighting was going to occur the allegations popped up.

417 freetoken  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:33:36am

re: #414 littleoldlady

Which movie? Assume you mean 2001: A Space Odessey. While far from being my favorite piece of cinema, one thing which I appreciate about that movie is the more realistic portrayal of the issues of space flight and science. A great deal of "science fiction" today really ought to be labeled fantasy, IMO.

418 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:35:14am

re: #417 freetoken
Yeah one thing about Clark he wrote Science fiction not the Science Fantasy that is out there today.

419 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:35:57am
420 Tamron  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:36:05am

Little Young Lady!

421 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:36:22am

re: #413 BlueCanuck


I hafta say that ever since innaguration, I've rediscovered talk radio on the Right. I give Glenn Beck and Bill O'Rielly a wide berth, since at times I honestly think they were Mobys elevated to their current status soley to discredit the political right in this country. When possible, I tend to be more of a Laura Ingraham and Lars Larsen listener- I think I'm more impressed with Larsen owing to his background as an investigative journalist and being a farily laid-back host based out of a rather hostile municipality such as Havana on the Columbia Portland, OR.

Of course, there's the ever popular default of sports play-by-play and I'm also listening to more financial stuff as the market deteriorates (mostly simulcast stuff from CNBC, Bloomberg or FOX Business).

422 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:36:29am

re: #409 Fenway_Nation

Nope, I have never been to Fenway. Walked by it everyday. My school even gave us free tickets occasionally. I studied so much that I never got around to it. I never went to Martha's Vineyard either.

423 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:37:33am

re: #416 Rustler

I agree with all points;being bisexual is different than being a pederast. The timing of the story is suspect.

424 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:38:26am

re: #417 freetoken

I agree. Most movies have errors so large that it's sickening. Even when they have "advisors" on staff. One of the recent Mars movies made me gag. Most of the science in it was so bogus it was bad. But if they tried to keep the movie plotted out to physics most stories would be boring. Like 2001. Just my opinion, take it or leave it.

/here's a good website that likes to destroy Science Fiction myths with the cold hard realities of physics. Atomic Rockets.

425 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:39:53am

re: #419 Consanescerion
Here is a counter point by a Sri Lankin.

There are some comments in this board is based on pure ignorance. I am from Sri Lanka and live probably few miles from Clarke lived.

1) Pedophelia charges against Clarke is just rumors. You can not prosecute people based on rumors.

Comment 2) Clarke's celebrity in such an impoverished place would provide quite a bit of cover.

Let me tell you Clarke lived in the richest area of Colombo (probably better than 75% of London). There is no reason to believe that if the newspapers find out they would not publish it.

It is no secret that Clarke associated young boys. These young boys are not poor boys. They are rich ones with parents who have powerful positions in the government. If they had suspected that their sons were sexually molested by Clarke, believe me Clarke would be in trouble.

Now it is fair to say media is pre occupied with the ongoing war and other matters do not get much coverage.


Ruwan, Colombo, Sri Lanka

426 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:40:23am

From this Article about Clarke after his death.

427 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:40:36am

re: #422 Afrocity

Me neither on the martha's Vineyard part. I think I've only been to Cape Cod twice in my life....

I grew up pretty far inland- in an area so economically deprived, we didn't have accents.

428 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:40:57am

re: #417 freetoken

That's the one. I loved the beginning, liked the ending, but found the middle both boring and disturbing at the same time.

/and I saw it BOTH ways
//if you know what I mean...

429 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:41:46am

TAMRON! :-)

430 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:41:48am

re: #421 Fenway_Nation

I love Glenn Beck and O'reilly. Hannity too. I was a DEM until last year. I now listen to talk radio as well. I like Laura Ingram, but I don't catch her show much. I disagree with her conservative stance on women's issues.

431 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:41:56am
432 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:43:05am

re: #431 Iron Fist

He died late Feb or early March of 2008.

433 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:44:22am

re: #431 Iron Fist The allegations were raised in 1998 and were totally unfounded as he was never convicted all charges dropped and his name should have been cleared but remained tainted.

434 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:44:23am

Good Morning Lizards..
how is everyone this fine day?

435 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:44:36am

re: #431 Iron Fist

No he died last year. March 19, 2008.

436 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:44:48am

re: #431 Iron Fist

Good question. Did Arthur C. Clarke Die?

437 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:44:52am

Iron Fist! :-)

Hoosier! :-)

438 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:44:53am

re: #434 HoosierHoops
Good how's bout you HH?

439 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:45:48am

re: #434 HoosierHoops

I be fine Hoosier. Good Morning.

440 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:46:56am

re: #437 littleoldlady

re: #438 Rustler

Howdy! Waiting for the coffee to brew..What's up?

441 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:47:22am

re: #430 Afrocity

I was a DEM until last year.

Really? Did that make you a PUMA?

People who know my politics simply assume that I'm a Republican when that isn't the case. I would vote for a hawkish/pro-military, pro-2nd amendment Dem (I guess they'd be what's called Blue Dog Democrats) if one ran for office out here, but we're stuck with the likes of Pelousy, Boxer, Feinstein et al....

A Dem who ran on those issues would be much better than some of the RINOs we have out here.

442 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:47:24am

re: #435 ArchangelMichael

I didn't know that. The last of the greats.

443 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:48:05am
444 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:49:13am

I don't know what the controversy is all about. It seems that some have an image of figures that they admire; when confronted by a counter narrative i.e. the person is gay or a philanderer -they reject it as false in order to preserve their memory.

It is often never mentioned in the African American community that Malcolm X had homosexual experiences.

445 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:50:03am

re: #443 Iron Fist

Crap! He's dead too? I've read his suff since the 80's.

446 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:50:10am
447 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:51:33am

re: #441 Fenway_Nation

Really? Did that make you a PUMA?

People who know my politics simply assume that I'm a Republican when that isn't the case. I would vote for a hawkish/pro-military, pro-2nd amendment Dem (I guess they'd be what's called Blue Dog Democrats) if one ran for office out here, but we're stuck with the likes of Pelousy, Boxer, Feinstein et al....

A Dem who ran on those issues would be much better than some of the RINOs we have out here.

How did you know I was a PUMA? I used to comment on their blog regularly until maybe a couple of weeks ago when I came here. I love them but it was definitely a liberal blog and I became weary of seeing things that I did not agree with.

448 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:54:15am

re: #447 Afrocity

How did you know I was a PUMA? I used to comment on their blog regularly until maybe a couple of weeks ago when I came here. I love them but it was definitely a liberal blog and I became weary of seeing things that I did not agree with.

Good Morning Afrocity..Hope today finds you well..You PUMA you! :)

449 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:54:25am
450 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:54:30am

re: #444 Afrocity
It's not that we are just disbelieving something bad said about the man I was never overly fond of his writings. But I do dislike someone speaking ill of the dead when it was never proven catergorically the courts in Sri Lanka dropped the charges after all 3 of the "boys" who implicated Clarke admitt they made it up. The Mirror(the London newspaper that broke the story citing a video confession) never made good with the video they claimed to have with his admission. Some people are taking his comment to Playboy about Bisexual experiences to mean he admitt to molesting teenage boys. He admit at one point he didn't ask ages but all the men he had relations with were at least of the age of puberty and legal in the country in question.

451 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:55:21am

re: #444 Afrocity

It is often never mentioned in the African American community that Malcolm X had homosexual experiences.

I imagine the fact that Malcom X's widow being torched by his grandson comes up even less.

452 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:55:25am

re: #446 Iron Fist

Awww!

/blushing

453 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:55:40am

re: #448 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Afrocity..Hope today finds you well..You PUMA you! :)

Good Morning Hoosier. I can't really be one I suppose because I am a Republican. That was the problem.

454 freetoken  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:56:26am

re: #424 BlueCanuck

But if they tried to keep the movie plotted out to physics most stories would be boring. Like 2001.

Suspect you are right. It does seem the real universe is too boring for audiences. However, the irony is that often the fantasy stuff in today's movies is used as deus ex machina and keeps the characters from facing the "human condition" as (old time authors would say.)

455 KronoGhazi  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:56:35am

I'm glad we have a Post Racial President instead of a Most Racial President.
/s

456 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:57:33am

re: #447 Afrocity

How did you know I was a PUMA?

Just a lucky guess, actually. Prior to the election, there was much speculation here on how much of a factor the PUMAs would be....

457 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:58:04am

re: #451 Fenway_Nation

I imagine the fact that Malcom X's widow being torched by his grandson comes up even less.

Hmm, we talk about how Betty Shabazz dies. The Shabazz family is sort of effed up.

458 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:58:06am
459 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:59:53am

re: #455 BigPapa

I'm glad we have a Post Racial President instead of a Most Racial President.
/s


If he addresses Gore-Bull Global Warming again, should we address him as the Roast Glacial President?

460 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:01:04am

re: #450 Rustler

I don't know sounds kind of Michael Jackson-ish to me. Throw in a chimpanzee and a hyperbaric chamber and you have a Thriller on your hands.

461 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:02:48am

re: #458 Iron Fist


I own none. I would like to but I think it is illegal in Chicago.

462 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:02:49am

re: #449 Iron Fist

It depends on what you are looking for. David Drake is good for the miltary edge in Sci-Fi. He also deals more with the human factor and the science is just to drag the story along when needed. He also has a good knowledge of history and has reworked a few stories into his fiction. John Ringo is also a good military writer, Tom Kratmann (sp?), David Weber, and if you want to look at the silver age there's Niven and Pournelle.

/off the top of my head, but I am sure there are a few more out there as well.

463 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:02:54am

Speaking of guns...where's the best place to buy ammunition? Online? WalMart?

/Charles may well scoff at Glenn Beck, but watching that show Friday night made me at least realize that we are not prepared

464 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:02:54am

re: #449 Iron Fist

Damn, i didn't know.Time passes. Just tell me that Harlan Ellison is still alive. I remember the day that Robert Heinlein died.

465 Throbert McGee  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:04:57am

re: #385 Afrocity

All of this talk of homosexuals lead me to read up on it:

For example, male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding. In a well-publicized story from 2004, the Central Park Zoo in the United States replaced one male couple's stone with a fertile egg, which the couple then raised as their own offspring.


Incidentally, the two male chinstrap penguins (Pygoscelis antarcticus) in THAT particular case didn't mate for life, although they stuck together for six consecutive mating seasons. But they "broke up" a year or two after hatching the foster egg, and one of them paired with a female in a subsequent mating season. (That heterosexual pairing only lasted one season, though, and as far as I've been able to find on the Web, both males have remained bachelors in recent years -- possibly because they're now quite elderly by the standards of their species.)

466 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:05:19am

re: #463 littleoldlady

I've got my axe-handle, LoL...

/And a .357 that's older than me and kinda looks it

467 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:06:56am

re: #465 Throbert McGee

Incidentally, the two male chinstrap penguins (Pygoscelis antarcticus) in THAT particular case didn't mate for life, although they stuck together for six consecutive mating seasons. But they "broke up" a year or two after hatching the foster egg, and one of them paired with a female in a subsequent mating season. (That heterosexual pairing only lasted one season, though, and as far as I've been able to find on the Web, both males have remained bachelors in recent years -- possibly because they're now quite elderly by the standards of their species.)

So it seems they are gay birds /

468 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:07:29am

re: #462 BlueCanuck
I love David Drakes Fantasy based WW2 Series.

469 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:08:03am

re: #464 BatGuano

He's still alive.

470 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:08:05am

re: #466 Fenway_Nation

Is that a .357 magnum?

/MakeMyDay

I think that's what we have.

471 verybadcat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:08:59am

Take a look at the blog Mere Rhetoric. Some interesting claims about Obama's National Security Adviser James L. Jones in there.

472 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:09:16am

re: #467 Afrocity

So it seems they are gay birds /

But they look Fabulous!

473 freetoken  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:10:08am

re: #463 littleoldlady

My take from that thread is that Charles is more angered than scoffing.

For me, I find Doomer Pr0n both fascinating and disgusting, (and I don't think that relationship is unusual.)

474 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:10:38am

re: #472 HoosierHoops

But they look Fabulous!

I am still waiting for you to join Facebook so we can be friends through the LGF page.

475 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:11:02am

re: #468 Rustler

Which one is that? Do you have a book title for me to go on?

476 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:11:09am

re: #464 BatGuano
Still alive but hes gettin up there in years.

His friend Isaac Asimov noted that, "Harlan uses his gifts for colorful and variegated invective on those who irritate him — intrusive fans, obdurate editors, callous publishers, offensive strangers."

Random quote about him from Asimov.

477 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:11:38am

re: #474 Afrocity

I am still waiting for you to join Facebook so we can be friends through the LGF page.

Never been to facebook..Is there a link to the page?

478 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:11:52am

re: #472 HoosierHoops

But they look Fabulous!

Hey, if you dress in a tux all the time you would look fabulous too. :)

479 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:12:01am

re: #475 BlueCanuck
Remind me tomorrow night I'll look at home have the series. If you read it try to figure out who is who in it.

480 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:12:10am

I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.

I will change mine if you change yours.

481 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:13:12am
482 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:13:44am

re: #480 Afrocity

I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.

I will change mine if you change yours.

NOOooooooo! I like your avatar

483 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:14:42am

re: #469 BlueCanuck

Good news! Although I read in the San Jose Murky news he sued, and won, a lawsuit against James Cameron for ripping off his " Soldier of the Future Story" that Cameron ripped off in"Terminator'.

484 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:15:15am

re: #480 Afrocity

I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.

I will change mine if you change yours.

Let your avatar unchanged. It's wonderful.

485 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:15:45am
486 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:16:47am

re: #484 callahan23

Let your avatar unchanged. It's wonderful.

Good Morning! How are you today?

487 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:16:50am

re: #477 HoosierHoops

Never been to facebook..Is there a link to the page?

LGF facebook

488 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:17:36am

re: #480 Afrocity

I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.

I will change mine if you change yours.

Yours is a nice avatar that should. I think you should leave it be...

489 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:18:14am

re: #486 HoosierHoops

Good Morning! How are you today?

Very well, thanks. {Hoops}
And good morning to all Lizards.

490 Tamron  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:18:47am

re: #480 Afrocity

I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.

I will change mine if you change yours.


Maybe he's the real Obama!
.

491 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:18:49am

re: #475 BlueCanuck
Bah my Bad Turtledove wrote the World at war series not Drake. here is a link to the series on amazon tho.

492 freetoken  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:18:55am

re: #480 Afrocity

I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.


Well... sorry to hear that. Anyway, I must go do some chores... but here is some light-hearted music to help the time go by:

493 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:19:02am

re: #485 Iron Fist

Do you have a palm pilot or other such pda? Baen online has a free library with one or two books in some authors series that I mentioned so you could try before you buy. As well they sell all there books in electronic format that is way cheaper then paperback. Even paying the exchange rate from Canadian to American dollars I am saving money.

494 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:20:14am

re: #491 Rustler

Yeah, I read about the first three books of that series. Got a bit bored of it though. But I do like his alternate world books he does put out.

495 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:20:27am

re: #491 Rustler

Darkness Decending is hte First in the series.

496 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:21:46am

re: #488 Fenway_Nation

But everytime I see Freetoken's avatar it is like kryptonite. How would you like it if I changed my avatar to Nancy Pelosi? Free Token has intelligent commentary but that avatar makes me skim his posts. I don't like Obama the man or the logo.

497 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:22:57am
498 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:23:14am

re: #463 littleoldlady

Fear mongering and other Beck moonbattery aside, most people in America are not prepared for any such problem. I read somewhere that Americans have an average of 2 days worth of food and water.

Every American household should store 2 to 4 weeks worth of food, water, and basic supplies to deal with any disaster. Not necessarily civil unrest, terrorism, or war. I'm just talking about surviving hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, bad snowstorms, out of control wildfires, etc. I think Katrina should have hit that point home to everyone.

What happens the next time a solar flare or coronal mass ejection knocks out half the power in the country for several days?

499 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:23:19am
500 Afrocity  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:25:52am

I am going back to bed.

501 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:27:19am

re: #498 ArchangelMichael

What happens the next time a solar flare or coronal mass ejection knocks out half the power in the country for several days?


Not likely in the next few days.

502 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:27:36am

Night afrocity!

503 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:27:55am
504 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:28:12am

re: #491 Rustler

You fans of counterfatcuals who have not read. " Guns of The South", by Harry Turtledove, do so now! Ignore the PC crap that he trows in there, just read and enjoy. Hint: what if the south had AK 47's.

505 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:28:36am

Night Afrocity, rest well and pleasant dreams

506 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:29:13am

re: #500 Afrocity

Goodnight, Afrocity.

507 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:29:44am
508 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:30:04am

re: #500 Afrocity

Nitey night 'n sweet dreams, Afrocity.

509 Neutral President  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:30:20am

re: #501 callahan23

Not likely in the next few days.

Probably not likely for a long time since we have have practically zero sunspots for over a year. The possibility still exists, its happened before in the NE and Canada.

510 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:33:27am

re: #509 ArchangelMichael

Exactly my thinking.
The stocking up of emergency supplies is also a good idea.

511 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:33:32am

re: #499 Consanescerion
Taking as canon the story implicating him and believing rumors on the street isn't right tho. The fact of the matter is charges were dropped he was never tried and the only source that really picked up on hte story was the Mirror. He may or may not have been guilty but I will withhold judging hte man because he was cleared of the charges. Not in a court case thru really good lawyers and lots of money but before it even went to trial the boys were requestioned and admitt to lying. The timing of the story also leads to suspicions. Or do you think it was plausable for the story to break 1 week before he was knighted when he had been celebate for approximately 20 years prior to 1998.

512 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:33:45am

The difference between Republicans & Democrats

A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person.

The republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person.

The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, He decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the Republicans pocket and gave him fifty dollars.

513 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:34:52am

re: #512 Dustyvet

Good Morning Dusty!

514 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:35:17am

What is one billion?

According to a recent government publication ...

A billion seconds ago Harry Truman was president.

A billion minutes ago was just after the time of Christ.

A billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth.

A billion dollars ago was late yesterday at the U.S. Treasury.

515 Throbert McGee  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:36:00am

re: #444 Afrocity

It is often never mentioned in the African American community that Malcolm X had homosexual experiences.

I'll bet that wouldn't blow as many African-American minds as...

...wait for it!...

...George Washington Carver.

(There's an obvious joke here about "the scientist who found over 100 different uses for peanu'ss," but I'm not going to sully the thread by making it.)

516 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:39:59am

re: #515 Throbert McGee

I heard on the food network (Alton Brown), he did not invent peanut butter.

517 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:41:11am

Lots of folks are forced to skimp to support a government that won't.

There's one thing the Democrats and Republicans share in common: Our money.

...Veni, Vedi, Clinti--I came, I saw, I lied.

A little girl asked her father, "Daddy? Do all Fairy Tales begin with 'Once Upon A Time'?"

He replied, "No, there is a whole series of Fairy Tales that begin with 'If elected I promise'."

518 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:41:32am

re: #511 Rustler

I am also pretty convinced that that story was fabricated in order to have a nice scandal at hand.
And I know some things about legal systems or the lack and insecurity thereof in third world countries.
My own house guard was arrested only because of a fabricated accusation. Everybody knew and yet he was kept in police custody for more than four weeks until bribes traveled the correct channels.
It leaves you shaken and pretty insecure in that foreign culture.

519 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:41:47am

re: #513 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Dusty!

Good Morning Hooser...:)

520 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:43:22am

re: #519 Dustyvet

Good Morning Hooser...:)


Hoosier...sorry...For Gods sake dusty turn on a light...

521 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:43:37am

re: #497 Iron Fist

We actually had a gun shop in this township for many years, but he closed down a couple of years ago.

/I don't know why, but....bad timing!
//I guess WalMart it is then, since there's no gun shows around here...

522 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:44:43am

re: #498 ArchangelMichael

Well, that's what we were talking about. (And I thank Glenn for that!)

Just basic survival stuff.

523 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:45:05am

Idiots...complete igits: Our Keystone Cops Foreign Policy

It appears that Barack Obama's foreign policy team is going to make us pine for the days of the Bush Administration's competency by comparison very soon.

I'm not sure what exactly this story illustrates except there doesn't seem to be anyone home at the White House yet. [.]

...and I wouldn't expect to find anyone occupying the WH for more than a photo-shoot until the 2012 presidential campaign is over which, btw, won't be anytime soon.

Then we have these two complete numbskulls, Brian Baird (Dhimmicrat-Washington) & Keith Ellison (Dork-Islamist at Large): 'Israel must change "counterproductive" Gaza policies'

Mornin folks, Lol, bat, Blue, Afrocity, Fenway, free...all.

Are we havin fun yet?

524 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:45:24am

re: #520 Dustyvet

Hoosier...sorry...For Gods sake dusty turn on a light...

LOL
I get called hossier often also..

525 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:45:25am

re: #514 Dustyvet

Oh, let's not stir things up. We must all make sacrifices to make sure that the One's presidency is successful.

526 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:47:59am

re: #503 Iron Fist

talloldman was a deer hunter. He has a 12 gauge shotgun he got from his father that he used for many years. About 20 years ago he had surgery on his chest that made it impossible to use the shotgun, so he bought some kind of magnum.

/I can never remember what it is

We have minimal ammo for both, but I think we should have more.

/Lord help me if I have to learn how to use either one "on the job"!

527 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:49:41am

Dustyvet! :-)

aboo! :-)

Are we havin fun yet?

Well, we're buying ammo...
;-)

528 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:50:55am

Good morning aboo. Each day gives me another reason to be thankful that I am still alive at the least.

529 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:52:25am

re: #527 littleoldlady

Dustyvet! :-)

aboo! :-)

Well, we're buying ammo...
;-)

(Lady)...Hi dere...:)

530 coquimbojoe  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:55:33am

Good morning all!

531 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:55:40am

Good luck buying the ammo, in lots of places it's being rationed by the retailers and some of the backlogs from the manufacturers are now going into 2 months.

532 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:57:40am

re: #530 coquimbojoe

JOE! :-)

533 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:57:55am

re: #531 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Ruh roh :-(

534 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:59:28am

3 years ago my dad left me a .32, two boxes of ammo. Should I upgrade to a shotgun?

535 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:00:18am

Hi not really caught up yet but could someone tell me what the mass meltdown on the glenn beck thread was about?
And this cute video goes to whoever answers

536 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:02:05am

re: #535 Neo Con since 9-11

Hi not really caught up yet but could someone tell me what the mass meltdown on the glenn beck thread was about?
And this cute video goes to whoever answers

Hi neocon! good morning..Didn't know about the meltdown..I'll go back and read it

537 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:02:56am

re: #535 Neo Con since 9-11

Hi not really caught up yet but could someone tell me what the mass meltdown on the glenn beck thread was about?
And this cute video goes to whoever answers

I think, not sure of the total count...but like 9 trools bit it...Stinky was hitting them right out of the park.

538 verybadcat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:03:26am

Guys. Mere Rhetoric. Read it.

539 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:04:12am

re: #535 Neo Con since 9-11

Neo Con! :-)

I didn't see it.

/stole the prize anyway
//THANKS! ;-)

540 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:05:05am

re: #535 Neo Con since 9-11

Don't know too much about it. But I think a few were calling out the boss for jumping on Beck. From what I gathered though I think he was right about doing it. If he was screaming end of the world, apocalypse junk he should be held accountable. Stuff like that is only good for the loons on both sides of the fence.

541 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:06:00am

re: #535 Neo Con since 9-11

You'll never catch up. I tried. Apparently the survivalists didn't survive. The video had baby deer and kitties so you get a ding up.

542 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:07:12am

Woman Gets Graduation Invite in Mail ... 22 Years Late


Better late then never...:)


/s

543 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:07:38am

re: #533 littleoldlady

Ruh roh :-(

Don't worry you'll be able to find some but it's really pretty weird - whatever the current rationalization.

544 abaleh  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:08:24am

re: #538 verybadcat

Guys. Mere Rhetoric. Read it.

The Islamic Republic of Sweden.
Disgusting.

545 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:09:01am

re: #537 Dustyvet

I think, not sure of the total count...but like 9 trools bit it...Stinky was hitting them right out of the park.

Holy Cow! that last thread was quite destructive to several ex-lizards..
Wow!

546 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:09:32am

re: #542 Dustyvet

No link. I hope this wasn't West Point.

547 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:10:07am

re: #545 HoosierHoops

EX lizards?

548 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:11:06am

re: #547 littleoldlady

globularcluster for one.

549 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:11:10am

re: #546 BatGuano

No link. I hope this wasn't West Point.

Whoops...


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

550 verybadcat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:11:23am

That's only the beginning . . .

US participation in Durban 2 . . .
Anti-Israeli National Security Adviser James L Jones . . .

it gets worse . . .

551 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:11:41am

re: #547 littleoldlady

EX lizards?

banning stick little old lady...Meltdowns..Sad really

552 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:13:21am

re: #549 Dustyvet

Thanks. I see.

553 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:13:51am

re: #547 littleoldlady

As well Mel Lono got the stick. Missed what he posted but it must have been naughty.

554 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:14:09am

re: #534 BatGuano
Nothing better for home defense without risking shooting thru hte walls than a shotgun with bird shot. Plus there is the whole Psychological effect of the bigger the hole in the barrel your staring at the faster your bowels completely void themselves.

555 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:14:37am

re: #548 BatGuano

Oy. :-(

re: #551 HoosierHoops

Oy oy oy. :-(

556 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:15:00am

re: #553 BlueCanuck

Mel, too? :-(

557 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:15:14am

re: #540 BlueCanuck
More like he had his guest playing the doom and gloom preachers while he acted shocked surprised and amazed that it was happening.

558 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:15:55am

re: #554 Rustler

Exactly what I thought. I be shotgun shopping.

559 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:16:03am

re: #555 littleoldlady

Oy. :-(

re: #551 HoosierHoops

Oy oy oy. :-(

Chips a oy...Lady's got cookies...!.......zooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!

560 littleoldlady  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:16:07am

Roxanne (The Dog) - She Who Rules My Life - is telling me it's time to get moving...

Good day, ALL!™

561 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:17:33am

re: #560 littleoldlady

Roxanne (The Dog) - She Who Rules My Life - is telling me it's time to get moving...

Good day, ALL!™

Takes cookie out of mouth and looks at it...Milk Bone....:P

562 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:17:35am

re: #560 littleoldlady

G'day LOl

563 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:19:03am

Just jaw dropping video showing Volcano's on the Science channel..Stuff I've never seen..whoa..cool vid's

564 verybadcat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:20:16am

Man, what does it take to be heard around this place?

on Mere Rhetoric we have:

Obama's anti-Israel National Security Adviser
The Islamic Republic of Sweden
Obama's Rush To Engage Syria Uninhibited By IAEA Confirmation Of Syrian Nuke Program

and much much more.

565 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:21:54am

Bye littleoldlady, see you around.

566 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:22:28am

re: #564 verybadcat

Have you posted those in the link dump upstairs? That stuff is news worthy.

567 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:23:51am
568 verybadcat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:24:01am

I am new and clueless about such things. What is the link dump?

569 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:24:55am

re: #564 verybadcat

Great link..You've only made 6 posts here..Stop being a stranger

570 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:25:16am

re: #563 HoosierHoops

Just jaw dropping video showing Volcano's on the Science channel..Stuff I've never seen..whoa..cool vid's

I'm watching Star Trek on line...Shatner the Canadian canned ham...

571 freetoken  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:25:51am

re: #567 archer50

Did you happen to read the lengthy discussion of this topic up thread?

572 Occasional Reader  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:27:16am

re: #534 BatGuano

3 years ago my dad left me a .32, two boxes of ammo. Should I upgrade to a shotgun?

Yes.

You should also add:

-One forty-five caliber semiautomatic handgun
-Two pairs ladies' nylons
-[you know the rest]

573 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:28:35am

re: #572 Occasional Reader

Yes.

You should also add:

-One forty-five caliber semiautomatic handgun
-Two pairs ladies' nylons
-[you know the rest]

LOL
Did you make it home ok? You still aren't in an airport are you?

574 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:28:46am

re: #572 Occasional Reader

Yes.

You should also add:

-One forty-five caliber semiautomatic handgun
-Two pairs ladies' nylons
-[you know the rest]

Combination Russian Phrase Book and Bible...

575 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:29:22am

re: #567 archer50

Don't go there, we have already argued this out. It seems strange that the only printed accusation was from that paper. Just the once and nothing since. No charges, no trial, and this was published a week before his knighting.

576 Occasional Reader  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:30:09am

re: #567 archer50

Well, this link says that Clarke denied the claims and that they were "discredited".

577 Occasional Reader  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:30:38am

re: #573 HoosierHoops

LOL
Did you make it home ok? You still aren't in an airport are you?

I'm in Miami airport, awaiting my connecting flight home.

578 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:31:30am

re: #567 archer50
The Mirror is not a creditable news source. Clarke was subsequentially cleared and charges dropped after the 3 accusers claimed they lied.

579 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:31:32am

re: #568 verybadcat

Okay at the top of the page it shows a link viewer. You just select submit link and fill in the blanks as required.

580 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:31:45am

I'm still looking for Obama bumper sticker ideas.

How about 'Obama poops daisies'?

581 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:32:41am

re: #572 Occasional Reader

Condoms? A feller could have purty good time in Vegas.

582 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:33:29am

re: #577 Occasional Reader

I'm in Miami airport, awaiting my connecting flight home.

I've always wanted to visit there..Came this close to going to the SuperBowl there in 06..Dang it!

583 Occasional Reader  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:35:55am

re: #582 HoosierHoops

I've always wanted to visit there..Came this close to going to the SuperBowl there in 06..Dang it!

Miami is pretty wacky in a lot of ways, but is a nice place for a mid-winter break. And if you hunt around, you can usually find a cheap flight, a long as it's not one of the key holiday weekends.

584 Occasional Reader  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:37:23am

re: #581 BatGuano

Condoms? A feller could have purty good time in Vegas.

But seriously, folks... I fully support the idea of getting a shotgun. Ain't nothing like it for home defense, or shit-hitting-fan scenarios. (And by that I don't mean "civil war", more like Katrina-style temporary breakdown in civil order.)

585 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:38:36am

re: #582 HoosierHoops

Hey Hoosier, I once referred to you as a male. Was I wrong?

586 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:41:52am

re: #585 BatGuano

Hey Hoosier, I once referred to you as a male. Was I wrong?

Hey Bat..I'm a guy..Born and raised in California..Played college ball.. We transfered to Indiana for my job. Thus hoosierhoops..I'm a basketball freak..
Good Morning

587 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:42:02am

re: re: #540 BlueCanuck

nk">#536 HoosierHoops

re: #537 Dustyvet
Thanksre: #541 BatGuano

You'll never catch up. I tried. Apparently the survivalists didn't survive. The video had baby deer and kitties so you get a ding up.


Yikes, when the survivalists don't survive you know things have gotten bad. What did they do? And does the fact that I store 3 weeks worth of of water and a pound of canned meat make me a survivalist? and thanks for the ding.re: #539 littleoldlady

Neo Con! :-)

I didn't see it.

/stole the prize anyway
//THANKS! ;-)


Hi LOL but you didn't earn the cute video so you need to put it back

588 Occasional Reader  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:42:28am

re: #585 BatGuano

Hey Hoosier, I once referred to you as a male. Was I wrong?

Of course, you may have been correct at the time, but no longer.

/pure speculation, of course

589 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:42:39am

re: #585 BatGuano

Hey Hoosier, I once referred to you as a male rational human being. Was I wrong?


Wow Hoosier. I wouldn't take that from BatGuano!

//

590 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:43:39am

re: #589 sattv4u2

Wow Hoosier. I wouldn't take that from BatGuano!

//

LOL
good morning Satt!

591 Occasional Reader  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:44:32am

What the hell are all you guys doing up so early on a Sunday morning, anyway?

592 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:45:55am

re: #587 Neo Con since 9-11

That ate my entire comment but I wanted to thank all those who replied.

593 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:46:11am

re: #591 Occasional Reader

What the hell are all you guys doing up so early on a Sunday morning, anyway?

I'm always up early..In another month or two I'll be swimming laps at 5am in the pool..Now I just look at the 3" of snow I need to shovel..

594 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:46:57am

re: #591 Occasional Reader

What the hell are all you guys doing up so early on a Sunday morning, anyway?

It's almost 8am, nearly lunchtime.

595 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:47:34am

re: #588 Occasional Reader Hoops get in trouble with the missus and get castrated or what?

596 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:47:43am

re: #591 Occasional Reader

What the hell are all you guys doing up so early on a Sunday morning, anyway?

cleaning up the blood on the floor from last nights massacre!

597 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:48:19am

re: #593 HoosierHoops

Hey it's all exercise :p

598 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:48:56am

re: #596 sattv4u2

cleaning up the blood on the floor from last nights massacre!

Which thread? And....
Were there...casualties?

599 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:50:17am

re: #584 Occasional Reader

That seems to be the consensus even in the pre-internet age. If I need to defend my home, I do not want to rely on my marksmanship.The sight of my, in Cajun parlance, "twice bawrrel auromatic shoot gun" should deter the bad guys.

600 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:51:29am

re: #599 BatGuano

That seems to be the consensus even in the pre-internet age. If I need to defend my home, I do not want to rely on my marksmanship.The sight of my, in Cajun parlance, "twice bawrrel auromatic shoot gun" should deter the bad guys.

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...

601 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:51:53am

The one just before this one (Glenn Beck)
9 at last count. I left at around post # 1000. There were about 100 after that so I'm not sure if 9 was the final tally

602 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:52:24am

re: #598 J.D.

Which thread? And....
Were there...casualties?

The one just before this one (Glenn Beck)
9 at last count. I left at around post # 1000. There were about 100 after that so I'm not sure if 9 was the final tally

603 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:53:25am

re: #601 sattv4u2

The one just before this one (Glenn Beck)
9 at last count. I left at around post # 1000. There were about 100 after that so I'm not sure if 9 was the final tally

I went back about an hour ago.. wow..bloodbath is right...

604 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:53:42am

re: #598 J.D.

Not to mention the Jindal thread as well. I believe the body count may reach double digits. Almost seems as bad as the "Friday Night Massacre" I have heard about.

605 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:53:44am

re: #602 sattv4u2

Newbies? Oldsters?
Anyone we'll actually miss?

606 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:53:45am

re: #598 J.D.
The glen beck thread gamey buttocks is on the table indefineately enjoy.(think current count is 9 in that thread got the stick)

Off on another topic if I hear 1 more newsie claim the chimp comic was racist or an attempt to encourage an Obama Assassination I'm gonna put my foot thru the TV. Pelosi wrote the bill if anyone is being compared to a chimp it's her. If it's trying to encourage anyone to get shot it's her. Noone said shit when Bush was Chimpified god knows how many times. Lastly there is that old addage about 100 monkeys and keyboards turning out Shakespeare in 100 years. Well if you only give 1 monkey 1 day all you get is the Stimulus package.

607 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:53:56am

re: #602 sattv4u2

The one just before this one (Glenn Beck)
9 at last count. I left at around post # 1000. There were about 100 after that so I'm not sure if 9 was the final tally

I think it was 9, when the overnight Thread Opened...

608 Occasional Reader  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:54:19am

re: #599 BatGuano

That seems to be the consensus even in the pre-internet age. If I need to defend my home, I do not want to rely on my marksmanship.The sight of my, in Cajun parlance, "twice bawrrel auromatic shoot gun" should deter the bad guys.

However, just to further complicate things, Mas Ayoob (handgun defense expert) makes a good case for HANDGUN as your primary home defense weapon. Saw it in a gun mag recently, not sure which one.

Anyway, off to my next flight. Later.

609 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:55:52am

re: #605 J.D.
Globular cluster 5 year veteran got the stick. One other long termer I forget who as well and rest were normal trash as far as I know.

610 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:56:20am

re: #608 Occasional Reader

However, just to further complicate things, Mas Ayoob (handgun defense expert) makes a good case for HANDGUN as your primary home defense weapon. Saw it in a gun mag recently, not sure which one.

Anyway, off to my next flight. Later.

be safe...Enjoy home when you get there

611 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:56:32am

re: #605 J.D.

A) Newbies? Oldsters?
B) Anyone we'll actually miss?

A) 2 oldsters from what was said, but I missed who they were
B) doubt it

612 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:56:46am

re: #609 Rustler

Globular cluster 5 year veteran got the stick. One other long termer I forget who as well and rest were normal trash as far as I know.

Dragon somebody...?

613 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:57:24am

re: #586 HoosierHoops

Ok Hoosier. I meant no offense. I confused you with some other lizard . As long as you worship Larry Bird and The Chief. you're Ok. : )

614 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:57:26am

re: #553 BlueCanuck

As well Mel Lono got the stick. Missed what he posted but it must have been naughty.

/to save typing . :)

615 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:58:07am

re: #586 HoosierHoops

I should start calling you Norman Dale.

616 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:58:53am

re: #615 smokefire

I should start calling you Norman Dale.


[Video]

Morning Smoke...

617 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:58:54am

re: #609 Rustler

Globular cluster 5 year veteran got the stick. One other long termer I forget who as well and rest were normal trash as far as I know.

There is only one lizard i don't like..Spacejesus..He has insulted too many lizards around here..

618 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:59:15am

re: #608 Occasional Reader
Handguns are good the reason for a shotgun is to limit collateral damage tho most handguns are easily capable of penetrating thru a human body and continuing thru an interior wall and killing someone on the other side. High Expantion Jacketed Hollowpoints limit the chances of overpenetration but best bet to limit it is using a shotgun with bird shot.

619 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:59:32am

re: #616 Dustyvet

Hello Dusty, how is every little thing with you this AM

620 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:59:46am

re: #617 HoosierHoops

There is only one lizard i don't like..Spacejesus..He has insulted too many lizards around here..

HOOSIER LIKES ME ! I'M SOMEBODY !

621 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:59:46am

re: #617 HoosierHoops

There is only one lizard i don't like..Spacejesus..He has insulted too many lizards around here..

Space get the stick?

622 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:59:51am

re: #612 Dustyvet
Was a 2 name nic J***** something.

623 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:00:32am

brb ,,, the coffee around here doesn;t make itself !

624 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:00:40am

re: #622 Rustler

Was a 2 name nic J***** something.

Okay thanks...

625 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:01:03am

Spacejesus?

Sacrilegious.

626 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:02:00am

re: #625 smokefire

Spacejesus?

Sacrilegious.

And a pain in the ass...

627 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:02:25am

re: #606 Rustler

Peter Verwhatshisname looks to be one.

That's a damned shame.

/tribute to Charles's patience

628 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:02:28am

re: #615 smokefire

I should start calling you Norman Dale.


Good morning smoke.. great movie..with alot of classic lines..
'now boys.don't be caught watching the paint dry!'

629 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:02:48am

re: #600 Harry Tuttle

Yes, that works out mathematically .:)

630 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:03:13am

re: #626 Dustyvet

They have things for that problem....................I think it's called PREPARATION H

631 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:03:24am

Alright I need more bbq capacity for an event I am in the early stages of planning. Do I get a second Weber smokey mountiain water smoker or should I look at other options (Brinkman, others...). Any advice?

632 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:03:38am

re: #627 J.D.

Peter Verwhatshisname looks to be one.

That's a damned shame.

/tribute to Charles's patience

Yup he got nailed

633 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:04:03am

re: #628 HoosierHoops

One of Dennis Hopper's more lucid "sober" moments.

634 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:05:51am

Dumb @#(^'s, all of'em - I swear: Crisis may be worse than Depression: Volcker

Our genius' are quite likely to talk us into numerous crises whose roots find ground in nothing but self-fulfilling prophesy. ...this I blame on the actions of our Commander-in-Grief.

Tension's in and amongst the more powerful cogs are already closing-in at fevered pitch; in part, noted by the Russian's sinking of a Chinese freighter, Friday. As the more brittle economies slow & roll downhill, the greater the momentum and accumulation of angst - can't these jerks just shut their pie-holes?

635 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:06:03am

re: #631 Harry Tuttle

.............Yeah ORDER OUT, or have it catered.
Solves that problem.
If you are lucky enough to be in a BBQ region, then ordering out/catered event takes all the guess work out of your problems

636 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:06:58am

re: #632 Dustyvet

I updinged you just for verifying.

/yes, I am on my 4th cup of coffee why do you ask?

637 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:07:14am

re: #621 Dustyvet

Space get the stick?

I hope not..I plan on making him the laughingstock of LGF before I'm done.
He has well over -500 downdings..But he has insulted some lizard friends of mine.. I want a piece of his ass..

638 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:08:13am

re: #635 smokefire

.............Yeah ORDER OUT, or have it catered.
Solves that problem.
If you are lucky enough to be in a BBQ region, then ordering out/catered event takes all the guess work out of your problems

That takes all the fun out of it.

639 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:09:19am

re: #637 HoosierHoops

I hope not..I plan on making him the laughingstock of LGF before I'm done.
He has well over -500 downdings..But he has insulted some lizard friends of mine.. I want a piece of his ass..

I agree, he pushes but has yet to cross Charles's lines...nail the sod...

640 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:11:15am

[Link: www.topix.net...]

Just in case this story was missed the other day.
Our Senator strikes again.

There has been signs saying "Abort Obama,

As a Connecticut resident, I say ABORT DODD.

641 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:12:45am

re: #638 Harry Tuttle

maybe so, but it also takes all the anxiety out of it too.

With everything else going on, everyone needs a little less anxiety.

642 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:13:10am

re: #637 HoosierHoops

I hope not..I plan on making him the laughingstock of LGF before I'm done.
He has well over -500 downdings..But he has insulted some lizard friends of mine.. I want a piece of his ass..

He has insulted 'reine de tout' and that is a no, no.

643 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:14:21am

re: #627 J.D. That's it lol wasn't even a j in there but had half the alphabet.

644 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:14:52am

re: #641 smokefire

maybe so, but it also takes all the anxiety out of it too.

With everything else going on, everyone needs a little less anxiety.

I am talking about cooking meat over fire, what else is going on that's important? :-)

Actually now that I think about it the WSM has been upgraded from a 18 to 22 inch (super WSM) this past year. I think that may be the way to go.

645 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:17:13am

re: #639 Dustyvet

I agree, he pushes but has yet to cross Charles's lines...nail the sod...

LOL I'll be nice...but..doesn't matter what he posts for eternity.. I'll disagree and cut him down in my finest trash talking style..
overall he isn't worth a minute of my time...But I'll have some fun with it..

646 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:17:16am

re: #634 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

No worries. We're going to tax our way out of this, no problem.

Or, we could all move to Asia.

...Using a somewhat different definition—those earning $10-100 a day, including in rich countries—an Indian economist, Surjit Bhalla, also found that the middle class’s share of the whole world’s population rose from one-third to over half (57%) between 1990 and 2006. He argues that this is the third middle-class surge since 1800. The first occurred in the 19th century with the creation of the first mass middle class in western Europe (see chart 1). The second, mainly in Western countries, occurred during the baby boom (1950-1980). The current, third one is happening almost entirely in emerging countries. According to Mr Bhalla’s calculations, the number of middle-class people in Asia has overtaken the number in the West for the first time since 1700 (see chart 2). ...


Burgeoning bourgeoisie

Feb 12th 2009
From The Economist print edition
For the first time in history more than half the world is middle-class—thanks to rapid growth in emerging countries.

647 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:17:41am

re: #637 HoosierHoops

Isn't he already a laughingstock?

648 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:17:42am

re: #642 callahan23
So coordinated effort to instigate Spaceboy into melting down.//

649 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:18:19am

re: #643 Rustler

That's it lol wasn't even a j in there but had half the alphabet.

Reminds me of the Police Officer and the drunk on the side of road.

Officer: recite the alphabet backwards starting at W.

Drunk: Shit, I can't even to that sober!

650 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:19:18am

re: #643 Rustler

We didn't hit if off.

/surprising, I know

651 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:19:39am

re: #644 Harry Tuttle

OK Harry, knock yourself out.

I should talk. We barbecue in all kinds of weather up here in Northeast CT. Snow, rain, sleet, cold, it don't matter. Course it's just me and the wife. And it's just an old Webber Gas Grill, so in reality, it is not REAL barbecuing. I do like watching those shows on Food Channel about the best barbecue joints in America. Too bad we don't have anything like that up here.

652 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:20:04am

Obama aims to halve deficit by 2013 - I guess that means serious trouble for the other 23-1/2 states.

Anyway we dont have to drive it honey, we can park it out in back
And have a party in your pink cadillac

653 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:20:27am

re: #648 Rustler

Guess so, every time I post about the insult to La Reine space's post is collecting new down-dings. Currently at 49 and counting. ;-)

654 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:20:44am

re: #649 Dustyvet

Lol reminds me about this new Cop on the beat on the Highway patrol. Nasty accident body was ejected and most of it was there but pieces were missing so the senior officer sends him with a clipboard to locate the other parts and list where they were found. Well he finds the head on the shoulder of the road and has some problems spelling it the senior officer is looking the other way so he kicks it into the median. Lists on report head found on median.

655 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:21:08am

re: #653 callahan23

..............I just down dinged.

656 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:24:12am

re: #653 callahan23

Yeah, thanks for the link. Gave the post a whack myself.

657 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:25:11am

re: #654 Rustler

Rustler, I believe the joke went like this....

Body in ditchd i t c h

legs in ditch d i t c h

head in boulevard b a l v a d

b o l o v a r d

reaches out, and kicks head into ditch

head in ditch d i t c h

658 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:25:25am

re: #655 smokefire

..............I just down dinged.

:D
work done well - padding my own shoulder /

Wife is calling, BBL.

659 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:27:11am

A Priest a Minister and a Rabbi walk into a bar, the bartender says " what is this, a Joke?"

660 Harry Tuttle  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:27:14am

re: #651 smokefire

OK Harry, knock yourself out.

I should talk. We barbecue in all kinds of weather up here in Northeast CT. Snow, rain, sleet, cold, it don't matter. Course it's just me and the wife. And it's just an old Webber Gas Grill, so in reality, it is not REAL barbecuing. I do like watching those shows on Food Channel about the best barbecue joints in America. Too bad we don't have anything like that up here.

SF I am in Rochester NY.

[Link: www.virtualweberbullet.com...]

661 Cathypop  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:27:54am

re: #659 BatGuano

A Priest a Minister and a Rabbi walk into a bar, the bartender says " what is this, a Joke?"


That was so bad I had to up ding you

662 UncleRancher  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:28:17am

re: #659 BatGuano

A Priest a Minister and a Rabbi walk into a bar, the bartender says " what is this, a Joke?"

he he he he

663 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:28:39am

re: #652 aboo-Hoo-Hoo I had heard that assumed I heard deficit when he said budget. After I formed the Budget assumption I figured oh good no new stimulus or bailouts this year.

664 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:28:43am

re: #659 BatGuano

..............it would be more like a miracle if it was
A priest, a rabbi, and a Muslim cleric walked into anywhere

665 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:29:56am

America's Dumbest Criminals

666 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:30:07am

re: #660 Harry Tuttle

almost neighbors. Well not quite.

667 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:30:21am

re: #663 Rustler Well then again concidering who spoke it, he may have meant budget and said deficit.

668 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:30:55am

re: #664 smokefire

..............it would be more like a miracle if it was
A priest, a rabbi, and a Muslim cleric walked into anywhere

Allah...Ack...a bar!

669 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:31:31am

re: #664 smokefire
So a priest and an Imam walk into a bar, the rabbi ducked.

670 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:31:40am
PEOPLE everywhere are talking about the Great Depression, which followed the October 1929 stock market crash and lasted until the United States entered World War II. It is a vivid story of year upon year of despair.

This Depression narrative, however, is not merely a story about the past: It has started to inform our current expectations.

According to the Reuters-University of Michigan Survey of Consumers earlier this month, nearly two-thirds of consumers expected that the present downturn would last for five more years. President Obama, in his first press conference, evoked the Depression in warning of a “negative spiral” that “becomes difficult for us to get out of” and suggested the possibility of a “lost decade,” as in Japan in the 1990s.

He said Congress needed to pass an economic stimulus package — as it ultimately did — to prevent this calamity.

The attention paid to the Depression story may seem a logical consequence of our economic situation. But the retelling, in fact, is a cause of the current situation — because the Great Depression serves as a model for our expectations, damping what John Maynard Keynes called our “animal spirits,” reducing consumers’ willingness to spend and businesses’ willingness to hire and expand. The Depression narrative could easily end up as a self-fulfilling prophecy. ...

Economic View
Can Talk of a Depression Lead to One?

Looks as though we're about to find out.

671 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:31:51am

re: #668 Dustyvet

that was so bad, it was funny. UPDING for the Dustyvet

672 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:32:03am

re: #661 Cathypop

Thank you. No applause please. I'm over adored as it is. :)

673 summergurl  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:32:35am

Morning Lizards-

674 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:32:36am

re: #671 smokefire

that was so bad, it was funny. UPDING for the Dustyvet

Ta...:)

675 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:32:48am

re: #672 BatGuano
Down dings incoming to deflate your head :P.

676 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:33:01am

re: #673 summergurl
Morning.

677 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:33:57am

re: #673 summergurl

Morning Summer.

678 rightside  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:34:21am

Morning Lizards.

Civilization still standing?

679 UncleRancher  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:34:48am

re: #670 J.D.

Yes, talk of a depression can produce one, I am convinced particularly when the new boss is talking like he wants one.

680 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:35:04am

re: #678 rightside
According to Glenn Beck it's on it's last legs.

681 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:36:01am

re: #678 rightside

Right now, anyway.

But to paraphrase Mark Twain
just wait awhile it will change

682 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:36:03am

re: #679 UncleRancher
More than talking like he wants one, he is actively working to so devalue the dollar that he causes one.

683 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:36:13am

re: #664 smokefire

It would be more like a Priest, a Rabbi, and a Muslim...blew up.

684 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:36:48am

Morning summergurl, rightside. As far as I know civilization is still here.

685 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:37:12am

re: #681 smokefire

So now your trying to say Mark Twain (samuel Clemens) wrote Obama's motto.//

686 Digital Display  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:37:49am

re: #664 smokefire

..............it would be more like a miracle if it was
A priest, a rabbi, and a Muslim cleric walked into anywhere

A priest, Rabbi and fiery preacher go fishing..They are in a boat in the middle of the lake when somebody says..We forgot the bait! The priest says no problem, gets out of the boat and walks across the water and gets the bait.. The preacher is freaking out.. The Rabbi goes..we forgot the hooks and gets out of the boat and walks on water to the shore and gets the hooks..
Well the preacher just is floored and can't take it any more..These guys can't be holier than me! So he jumps out of boat and sinks under the water and the priest and Rabbi pull him back into the boat.. But the preacher jumps right back into the lake calling upon his best faith..Still he goes under..Finally as they pulled him back into the boat the Rabbi says to the priest..' So we should tell him about the rocks before he drowns himself?'

687 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:38:10am

re: #675 Rustler

No! I'm actually humble! Kinda

688 UncleRancher  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:38:50am

re: #682 Rustler

I find it refreshing to go outside and take a deep breath of clean fresh air, watch all the wildlife that are supposed to be going extinct and become amazed at nature's abundance. There is some sign of life out there in the market. Just in the past week I have seen trainloads and truckloads of lumber going down the highway for the frist time in months.

689 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:39:02am

re: #685 Rustler

So now your trying to say Mark Twain (samuel Clemens) wrote Obama's motto.//

Bet you didn't know that Mark Twain had a younger brother, who made a fortune in model trains.

His name: Lional Twain...:)

690 UncleRancher  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:39:46am

re: #688 UncleRancher

Yes, I know, trainloads don't go down the highway. My bad.

691 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:39:52am

re: #679 UncleRancher

Yes, talk of a depression can produce one, I am convinced particularly when the new boss is talking like he wants one.

The New York Times isn't helpful, as per usual.

...Taking over big failed banks will be very difficult politically. But technically it could be easier than many of the elaborate rescues that have been tried and proposed.

On Friday, President Obama’s spokesman tried to calm the markets by reaffirming the administration’s preference for a sound privately owned banking system. We share that preference. But it looks as if the best way to get from here to there is for some of the banks to spend some time in the government’s hands.


Editorial
The Government and the Banks

692 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:40:25am

re: #688 UncleRancher Yeah but once he put's the Fed into overdrive to cover the spendulous bill and all his other stuff the dollar may not be worth more than toilet paper like the Argentine Peso.

693 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:40:31am

re: #685 Rustler

................oops totally missed that nasty word change

Slaps myself upside head with 2 X 4

694 summergurl  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:40:38am

Michelle Malkins column today is on a stimulus protest that was held in Seattle. "Mom blogger" Keli Calender was the one who organized the ant i pork demonstration. Will have to look for her blog...

Here is a link to Michelle's column:

No pork for us

695 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:41:07am

re: #686 HoosierHoops

LOL funny Hoosier

696 rightside  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:41:18am

re: #684 BlueCanuck

Morning Blue. I saw your youtube vid upthread about criminals inc. I got that one at work a while back, still get a chuckle out of it.

Anyone else getting error messages from some vids saying Embedding disabled by request?

697 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:41:25am

re: #689 Dustyvet
Punny way to keep the discussion on Twack.

698 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:41:46am

re: #678 rightside

I'm holding it together.

699 summergurl  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:42:00am

re: #684 BlueCanuck

Morning summergurl, rightside. As far as I know civilization is still here.

Depends on your interpretation of civilization.

700 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:42:03am

re: #693 smokefire
NP just don't let it happen again :P.

701 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:42:05am

re: #689 Dustyvet

..................Lionel, now owned by..................................

any guesses here?

702 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:42:54am

re: #696 rightside

I did on the last video post

703 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:44:42am

re: #696 rightside
Yeah I don't know what it's about unless someone is getting smart noticing his clips being put on blogs etc so asks to disable embedding code. There are workarounds from what I've heard, but I'm not sure how they work or how to do em tho.

704 yesandno  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:45:08am

re: #670 J.D.

Economic View
Can Talk of a Depression Lead to One?

Looks as though we're about to find out.

The old 'power of suggestion'. If you face the world with optimism, life does improve. If you think everything is depressing, it will be.

705 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:45:13am

Soros sees no bottom for world financial "collapse"

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Renowned investor George Soros said on Friday the world financial system has effectively disintegrated, adding that there is yet no prospect of a near-term resolution to the crisis.

Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.

He said the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers in September marked a turning point in the functioning of the market system.

"We witnessed the collapse of the financial system," Soros said at a Columbia University dinner. "It was placed on life support, and it's still on life support. There's no sign that we are anywhere near a bottom."...

706 UncleRancher  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:45:33am

re: #701 smokefire

[Link: www.lionel.com...]

707 topazpilot  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:45:57am

"Barack Obama is not my friend." as stated by my four year old son yesterday.

708 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:46:04am

Morning Lizards!

I'm awake. The sun is out. Mr. Blonde is still fast asleep, I'm here with a huge mug of fresh coffee, and I have a cat purring in my lap.

I just can't worry about Glenn Beck's doom today.

709 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:46:17am

re: #688 UncleRancher

I find it refreshing to go outside and take a deep breath of clean fresh air, watch all the wildlife that are supposed to be going extinct and become amazed at nature's abundance. There is some sign of life out there in the market. Just in the past week I have seen trainloads and truckloads of lumber going down the highway for the frist time in months.

Home sales up. Consumer prices didn't increase to nearly the percentage the "experts" predicted it would have last month (mostly due to oil prices remaining almost flat).

710 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:46:23am

re: #697 Rustler

Punny way to keep the discussion on Twack.

East is east, and west is west, and never the twain shall meet...

No Twack!


/S

711 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:46:47am

re: #707 topazpilot
//Did you cut his allowance to spread the wealth to the poor neighbor down the street?

712 Lincolntf  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:46:59am

re: #701 smokefire

Donald Trump? I could swear I just saw a (possibly joking) reference to this question on a TV show recently.

713 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:47:50am

re: #707 topazpilot

Upding, just because..out of the mouths of babes and all that. Wow.

714 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:48:01am

re: #708 Chicago Blonde

Morning Lizards!

I'm awake. The sun is out. Mr. Blonde is still fast asleep, I'm here with a huge mug of fresh coffee, and I have a cat purring in my lap.

I just can't worry about Glenn Beck's doom today.

Well, then, do Obama's, Paul Volcker's, and George Soros's doomongering do anything for ya?

If they do, you're in luck!

715 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:48:25am

re: #708 Chicago Blonde

Morning Lizards!

I'm awake. The sun is out. Mr. Blonde is still fast asleep, I'm here with a huge mug of fresh coffee, and I have a cat purring in my lap.

I just can't worry about Glenn Beck's doom today.


As I told my plumber (installing a new water heater and new washer dryer in my house) and my contractor (putting in granite countertops next month) "I refuse to participate in this recession!"

716 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:48:28am

re: #706 UncleRancher

Neil Young does still own a portion of Lionel, right?

717 UncleRancher  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:48:38am

re: #713 Chicago Blonde

I'm new here. What's an upding?

718 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:50:03am

re: #717 UncleRancher

You got a least four of them.

719 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:50:03am

re: #712 Lincolntf

I read that Neil Young [Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young] purchased Lionel in the 90's.

720 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:50:05am

re: #717 UncleRancher

I'm new here. What's an upding?

see the red minus and the green plus signs to the right of your screename? If you dislike/ like what a post says, hit the - or + and that poster gets a DOWNDING or an UPDING

721 Lincolntf  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:50:28am

re: #716 smokefire

Neil Young! Did you happen to see the TV show that featured that line? Maybe Psych or My Name is Earl or something like that? It's driving me crazy trying to remember where I heard that.

722 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:50:42am

re: #717 UncleRancher top right of the comment box there is a minus sign plus sign heart and exclamation minus is downding plus is up heart saves to faves and exclamation reports post to charles and stinky for review to ban or praise the post.

723 rightside  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:51:18am

re: #703 Rustler

I don't get that. Post them on youtube for the world to see. But I don't want YOU posting them on your site, where even more people can see them.

724 UncleRancher  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:51:54am

re: #720 sattv4u2

see
the red minus and the green plus signs to the right of your screename?
If you dislike/ like what a post says, hit the - or + and that poster
gets a DOWNDING or an UPDING

Ok! I just round the "new comments" button this morning. Still feeling my around here. (need to clean glasses)

725 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:51:54am

re: #717 UncleRancher

I'm new here. What's an upding?

re: #720 sattv4u2

see the red minus and the green plus signs to the right of your screename? If you dislike/ like what a post says, hit the - or + and that poster gets a DOWNDING or an UPDING

THEN ,, on your (or anyone elses) login, you can check your personal "KARMA" ,,, The total of UPINGS minus the total of DOWNDINGS you've recieved from all your posts

726 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:52:45am

re: #721 Lincolntf

I read about it in Young's Biography [Shaky

Talk about a 700 page root canal. Very hard read, but interesting nonetheless. Found out that his father is in NHL Hall of Fame for sportswriter.

727 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:52:45am

re: #714 J.D.

Ha! Not today they don't.

Tomorrow, they'll make me think how to stretch my dollar even more, how to keep my assets from being Acorned (new verb?), and if the end is nigh, I may as well get a few bottles of really nice red. Because I'm not going to be worried about fat/cholesterol/sodium any more, and will need a good wine to wash down the spaghetti carbonara I'm going to start eating (with the cheese I've hopefully procured before it's gone).

But for now....naaaaaaaah.

728 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:53:24am

re: #723 rightside
Yeah that's the part I don't get about it. Unless maybe there are groups on youtube and some videos only available if you belong to the group or something.

729 rightside  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:54:32am

re: #708 Chicago Blonde

coffee and cat gal...upding.

730 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:54:53am

re: #717 UncleRancher

Hi there! I'm new too, I just hatched earlier this week. Read #707, Topazpilot's son has a good head on his shoulders.

731 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:54:58am

Oh oh I see activity on the beck thread another stick descending or more just laughing at last nights episode time to look.

732 rightside  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:55:35am

re: #728 Rustler

I'm not sure either, I don't watch them much. google and all.

Maybe it's a zionist honco conspiracy?

733 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:55:53am

A new priest at his first mass was so nervous he could hardly speak.

After mass he asked the monsignor how he had done.

The monsignor replied, "When I am worried about getting nervous on the pulpit, I put a glass of vodka next to the water glass. if I start to get nervous, I take a sip."

So next Sunday he took the monsignor's advice. At the beginning of the sermon, he got nervous and took a drink. He proceeded to talk up a storm.

Upon his return to his office after mass, he found the following note on the door:

1. Sip the Vodka, don't gulp.
2. There are 10 commandments, not 12.
3. There are 12 disciples, not 10.
4. Jesus was consecrated, not constipated.
5. Jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass.
6. We do not refer to Jesus Christ as the late J. C.
7. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not referred to as Daddy, Junior and the Spook.
8. David slew Goliath, he did not kick the shit out of him.
9. When David was hit by a rock and was knocked off his donkey,don't say he was stoned off his ass.
10. We do not refer to the cross as the "Big T."
11. When Jesus broke the bread at the Last Supper he said, "Take this and eat it for it is my body." He did not say "Eat me"
12. The Virgin Mary is not called "Mary with the Cherry,"
13. The recommended grace before a meal is not: Rub-A-Dub-Dub thanks for the grub, yeah God.
14. Next Sunday there will be a taffy pulling contest at St. Peter's, not a Peter pulling contest at St. Taffy's!

734 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:55:57am

re: #728 Rustler

Or it may be something that Youtube does when they get complaints about the video from the owner. Say some big music group. "Sure you can keep it on Youtube, but no where else."

735 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:56:19am

re: #715 sattv4u2

Oooo, granite! That sounds gorgeous!

736 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:56:53am

Well all, be back much later.
On way to Democratic Republic of Massachusetts for second day of Antique Show, we are set up at.
The things we do for our wives............oops better not let her see this

Later

737 UncleRancher  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:57:03am

re: #730 Chicago Blonde

Hi there! I'm new too, I just hatched earlier this week. Read #707, Topazpilot's son has a good head on his shoulders.

I see Topazpiolot is bringing up the young'n right too.

738 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:58:06am

re: #735 Chicago Blonde

Oooo, granite! That sounds gorgeous expensive !


accuracy in reporting!

739 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:58:32am

re: #729 rightside

Hi there! How are you today?

Yeah, coffee + purring kitty = good start to day. Do you have cats?

740 smokefire  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:59:25am

re: #733 Dustyvet

You have to be a fallen Catholic, if not then for your penance say 10 Our Fathers and 10 Hail Mary's.

ROFLAMO.

741 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:59:27am

re: #739 Chicago Blonde

Hi there! How are you today?

Yeah, coffee + purring kitty = good start to day. Do you have cats?

I don't, but the dog had one almost cornered in the back yard yesterday.

742 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:00:20am

re: #739 Chicago Blonde

Hi there! How are you today?

Yeah, coffee + purring kitty = good start to day. Do you have cats?

Image: funny-cute-cats-1.jpg

743 rightside  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:00:33am

re: #739 Chicago Blonde

Great thanks, hoping to go to the outdoor shooting range today with the Mrs. RS, and break in a few new weapons.

We have two kitties.

744 UncleRancher  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:00:50am

Bye all. I gotta go feed the animals.

745 Cathypop  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:00:59am

re: #741 sattv4u2

I don't, but the dog had one almost cornered in the back yard yesterday.

My parents had a cat that would corner dogs in their backyard.

746 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:01:21am

Good morning y'all from a moderate (41 degrees, going up to 48 degrees with heavy rain predicted) but currently bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

747 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:02:22am

re: #745 Cathypop

My parents had a cat that would corner dogs in their backyard.

This was kinda funny. Our dog weighs only 12-13 pounds. The cat had to go about 20 lbs.
(I have NO idea what the dog would have done if it actually caught the thing!)

748 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:02:51am

re: #741 sattv4u2

Oh wow, what kind of doggie?

I understand about the expense, though yeah, it's gonna be gorgeous. We have 2 cats and a Lab mix. I love them all but one cat thinks I'm Mommy and has to sit with me when I drink coffee. We had (note the past tense) nice carpet until the pets worked it over. We ripped it out last year and have critter-proof hardwood now.

Expensive...but slobber and oops-proof.

749 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:04:07am

re: #742 Dustyvet

That's cute!

750 BatGuano  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:04:22am

Must go now. Bye, Y'all.

751 Rustler  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:04:57am

re: #734 BlueCanuck Not usually music I have seen that with.

752 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:05:17am
A British mother who was on the run in Dubai after being found guilty of adultery has been jailed after handing herself into police.

Teaching assistant Marnie Pearce now faces the prospect of never seeing her two young children again.

Marnie, 40, originally from Bracknell in Berkshire, insists she never cheated on her ex-husband Ihab El-Labban and has been framed so he could win custody of their sons Laith, seven, and Ziad, four.

Once she has served her three-month sentence, Marnie is set to be deported to the UK without her children. ...


Dubai 'adultery case' wife hands herself in to spare children

753 Cathypop  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:05:30am

re: #747 sattv4u2

This was kinda funny. Our dog weighs only 12-13 pounds. The cat had to go about 20 lbs.
(I have NO idea what the dog would have done if it actually caught the thing!)


The same thing my cat did when he tried to stalk a deer. They both jumped into the air and ran.

754 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:06:00am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!

Oh joy..it's Monday here :-(

As I didn't win Lotto, and no rich distant rellies have fallen off the perch lately and left me their fortunes I reckon I'd better go to work today....

755 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:06:14am

re: #746 realwest

Hey I'm glad your eyes are better. What was it? ... if you don't mind my asking...

756 Tigger2005  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:06:17am

re: #3 Silvergirl

Is it safe?

Is what safe?

(Silvergirl takes out dental drill)

Yes, it's safe. I don't know what it is, but it's very safe!

757 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:06:35am

re: #748 Chicago Blonde

Oh wow, what kind of doggie?

A mutt (like me). I think he's part Westie and part Jack Russell. We used to have a Westie (got him when he was 4 months old ,, had him till he died at 15 years)

758 Desert Dog  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:07:12am

re: #746 realwest

Good morning y'all from a moderate (41 degrees, going up to 48 degrees with heavy rain predicted) but currently bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Currently a brisk pre-dawn 54 here in Phoenix with expected high of 81 with sunny (surprise, surprise) skies expected. It is too early for 80's, no fair

759 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:07:40am

re: #746 realwest

Good morning y'all from a moderate (41 degrees, going up to 48 degrees with heavy rain predicted) but currently bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

*Smooch* darls, and it's a coolish night here although we're supposedly in line for a hot day today

How are you doing ? And your Mum?

760 rightside  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:07:42am

re: #754 aussiemagpie

Morning. :^)

761 LindaMarie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:08:44am

re: #705 J.D.
I spit on Soros

762 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:10:37am

re: #757 sattv4u2

He sounds adorable. Ours is Lab/something, very sweet.

I still have no idea how three small creatures can wreak such havoc on a whole landing of carpet....

763 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:11:04am

re: #755 J.D. Hi {J.D.}! I hope you're doing well today!
Well it was only one eye, but it is the only eye with which I can read anything at all - been like that since birth. And it was frequently, but not always "irritated" as if I had something in it - but I didn't.
The Optometrist said that one of the upper eyelashes on that eye had been "permanently bent" so that every once in a while it would brush across my eyeball. So he pulled the offending eyelash, charged me $65 and I was outta there!
How are you doing?

764 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:11:29am

re: #760 rightside

Morning. :^)

Hi there! :-)

765 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:11:54am
766 Desert Dog  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:12:05am

So, what are the hot topics on this mornings open thread?

767 bellamags  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:12:19am

re: #761 LindaMarie

I spit on Soros

me too. he simply has too much power and influence.

768 rightside  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:12:26am

Time to gather the ammo. Good day everyone.

769 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:12:57am

re: #768 rightside

Bye Rightside! Have a good one!

770 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:14:30am

re: #758 Desert Dog
Hi there Desert Dog "expected high of 81 with sunny (surprise, surprise) skies expected. It is too early for 80's, no fair".
Uh huh. Listen, get back to us all this August would ya? Especially because it's not the heat it's the humidity, right?
:)

771 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:14:58am

re: #763 {realwest}
That was easy enough! Good thing you didn't go to the emergency room after all!
I'm well, thanks... either going to a golf tournament or going out to hit a few myself... haven't decided yet...

772 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:15:57am

re: #761 LindaMarie

I spit on Soros

He is despicable, to be sure...

773 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:16:38am

re: #758 Desert Dog
Morning!
*Looking at snow in her yard*
That sounds so good to me right now....

774 summergurl  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:16:44am

Found the blog that Michelle Malkin is referring to -

Mom Blog

Third post down is a video - check it out - song is okay but the signs are a riot.

775 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:17:03am

Four dead in Gaza tunnel collapse


[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

776 Desert Dog  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:17:28am

re: #770 realwest

Actually, in August, in addition to the lovely 105-120 temps, we get the extra added bonus of the "monsoonal" patterns that bring afternoon thunderstorms and increased humidity. Not quite on a tropical level, but when the temperature in the shade is 110 and the humidity is over 50%, that really sucks....it's moments like that when everyone who lives here asks themselves....WHY do I live here....

777 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:17:39am

re: #759 aussiemagpie
Hey there {aussie} Me and mom are doing ok, thanks for asking! Sorry to hear it's such a cold early morning over there - what is it, about 75?!
Tell ya what, send a photo of yourself to Al Gore and SUGGEST that the two of you might have some "fun" togehter, that way when he shows up you're hot weather will turn to Winter IMMEDIATELY. Then you can say "hey, that was fun, thanks Al!" LOL!
*Smooches* back to you!
Hey, how's Julie doing these days?

778 Desert Dog  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:18:55am

re: #775 Dustyvet

Four dead in Gaza tunnel collapse

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Any word on the goat count?

779 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:19:05am

Heroic age of US newspapers ends with a whimper

Now the much larger, far more critical task...separation of MfM & State.

chop-chop.

780 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:19:10am

re: #761 LindaMarie
Good morning/afternoon/whatever to you! How's life over there these days? What do you hear around the rumor mill about President Obama's intentions out you're way?

781 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:20:21am

re: #778 Desert Dog

Any word on the goat count?

Nothing reported...yet...:)

782 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:20:54am

re: #765 Dustyvet

ZVIKA KRIEGER says Dubai's demise would be a setback

Of all the victims of the global financial crisis, Dubai and its neighboring states are receiving little sympathy.

Altogether now... Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

The oil-rich Persian Gulf emirate, which until recently had been a glitzy boomtown attracting fortune-seekers from across the globe, is reported to be canceling 1,500 work visas every day. Its real-estate market has dropped 30% or more over the past few months.

Their indoor ski slopes have earned these sheikhdoms few friends. Los Angeles Times columnist Rosa Brooks shed no tears that "Dubai may be going down," finding it "hard not to be revolted" by a state that "doesn't really produce anything of value" but is a playground for "cold-eyed Russian oligarchs, coked-out London pop stars and the spoiled princelings of global finance." News reports have been dripping with schadenfreude. Newsweek recently bid "Goodbye, Dubai" on its cover, while Time wondered if the Gulf collapse means "no more Palm Islands?" In response to Dubai's decision to deny a visa to Israeli tennis player Shahar Pe'er, New York Times columnist Harvey Araton gloated, "Just like that, the glitter and promise of Dubai as an emerging international sports center evaporated into the cool desert night."...

783 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:21:45am

re: #771 J.D. Well, I obviously can't speak for ya, but I'd druther play golf myself than watch it being played. By a lot! So if your shoulder's ok and all, why don't you go whack a few yourself?!

784 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:21:50am

re: #775 Dustyvet

Four dead in Gaza tunnel collapse


[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


New York Times will soon have (doctored) photos of Israeli children jumping up and down above the tunnel moments before it's collapse.

//

785 cato  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:22:39am

Charles, Sharmuta or Salamantis:

It just struck me that the rate of species change must be different depending on the specific environmental conditions. What I don't understand is when the rate is faster and when it is slower. Do you know of any studies on this issue?

786 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:22:53am

re: #783 realwest

Well, I obviously can't speak for ya, but I'd druther play golf myself than watch it being played. By a lot! So if your shoulder's ok and all, why don't you go whack a few yourself?!


getting a tad personal, no !?!?!?!

//

787 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:23:12am

re: #783 realwest

That's the conclusion I think I've come to...besides it's an old guys' tournament.

You know... guys my age... lol

788 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:25:25am

re: #777 realwest

Hey there {aussie} Me and mom are doing ok, thanks for asking! Sorry to hear it's such a cold early morning over there - what is it, about 75?!
Tell ya what, send a photo of yourself to Al Gore and SUGGEST that the two of you might have some "fun" togehter, that way when he shows up you're hot weather will turn to Winter IMMEDIATELY. Then you can say "hey, that was fun, thanks Al!" LOL!
*Smooches* back to you!
Hey, how's Julie doing these days?

LOL! Algore can stay well away from here while we still enjoy a bit of warmth!

Good to see your eye problem was fixed :-)

Thanks for asking about Julie - next month marks the 2nd anniversay of her NOT having a hospital admission, so we're all very happy about that

She's still taking buckets of medications, but they're all working well with no side effects

And I don't miss the drive into town to get to the hospital either :-)

789 Desert Dog  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:25:28am

re: #779 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Heroic age of US newspapers ends with a whimper

Now the much larger, far more critical task...separation of MfM & State.

chop-chop.

I would not say that the "Golden Age" of American Newspapers ended in a whimper, rather it ended in a slow spiraling death of every increasing Moonbattery and left leaning idiocy, similar to a turd spinning round in the toilet before being cast down into the sewer. Newspapers have been someone replaced by technology, no doubt, but they all leaned so far to the left, they slit their own throats as well....I would argue that the entire MSM is guilty of the same "crime".....and, what is truly laughable, is that if you ask one of these media types at a newspaper or TV News Station, they will all still cling to the belief that they are still "impartial and fair journalists".

790 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:25:30am

re: #787 J.D.

That's the conclusion I think I've come to...besides it's an old guys' tournament.

You know... guys my age... lol

Oh neat, another veteran of the Battle of Gettysburg...:)


/S

791 topazpilot  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:25:47am

haha, what allowance? he has to do something, other than be cute, to earn it! though, he does make one fine mess.re: #711 Rustler

792 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:28:13am

re: #786 sattv4u2

getting a tad personal, no !?!?!?!

//

real and I go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back... before the dawn of time...

/let's don't go down the road exploring how that occurred [too early]
:-)

793 topazpilot  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:28:26am

re: #713 Chicago Blonde

I know! It's not like I'm even coaching him or anything. I think he's just picking it up from what I listen to, but I did have to give him a high five when I heard it. My liberal ex-wife was not as amused! That made it even more priceless.

794 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:28:38am

re: #787 J.D.
Your age? Shoot - that'd be a tournament for youngin's I reckon!
But better to go play than watch! Have fun, that's the most important thing (other than keeping your head down, your "lead" arm straight and making sure you're stance is correct, I mean!)!

795 Desert Dog  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:29:26am

re: #782 J.D.

ZVIKA KRIEGER says Dubai's demise would be a setback

Living in an area that is known for booms and busts, I could see Dubai's future a mile away. As that article state, they make nothing, they create nothing. Everyone should have know that you cannot sustain this kind of growth forever

All of those shiny new skyscrapers will be a testament to wishful thinking.

796 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:30:22am

re: #790 Dustyvet

Oh neat, another veteran of the Battle of Gettysburg...:)

/S

:-P

/

797 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:30:32am

re: #788 aussiemagpie
Hey! That's just some wonderful news about Julie! Mazel Tov!
But how about YOURSELF - how are you doing this morning?

798 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:31:12am

re: #790 Dustyvet
Good morning Dusty! How are you doing this morning?

799 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:31:45am

re: #793 topazpilot

That IS priceless!

800 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:33:10am

re: #798 realwest

Good morning Dusty! How are you doing this morning?

Having some issues with pain since about 2:30 am, trying to hang in there. How's you and your mom doing? Did you receive my email?

801 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:34:05am

re: #794 realwest

Your age? Shoot - that'd be a tournament for youngin's I reckon!
But better to go play than watch! Have fun, that's the most important thing (other than keeping your head down, your "lead" arm straight and making sure you're stance is correct, I mean!)!

But of course! LOL!

I am!

(then there's your grip, shifting your weight, the takeback, the follow-through... )

802 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:34:39am

re: #785 cato

I don't have the links handy, but there have been cases of recent lizards (real ones, not us) on islands actually changing within years. I believe one species is on a Meditrennian island, and the other is in Bermuda. Yes, the greater the stress, the greater the need, the faster the change.

803 LindaMarie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:35:32am

Evening all from cloudy (was snowing) Kabul.
The glass is half full. It sre: #780 realwest

topped snowing for now.
re: #780 realwest

Only what I read on the internet. The only news channels here are BBC and CNN so I watch Animal Planet. One of the problems with that is when it is evening here it is the middle of the night here - and Animal Planets Funnist is not very funny

804 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:36:20am

re: #802 BlueCanuck

I don't have the links handy, but there have been cases of recent lizards (real ones, not us) on islands actually changing within years. I believe one species is on a Meditrennian island, and the other is in Bermuda. Yes, the greater the stress, the greater the need, the faster the change.

Gee, on Friday night this lizard turned into a bar:p...


/S

805 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:37:13am

re: #802 BlueCanuck

"She turned me into a newt!"

806 Luigi  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:37:29am

While he was Chairman of the Democratic Party, Rhambo may have been living rent free in a swank DC apartment owned by a Dem Congresswoman while he was handing huge Democratic Party polling contracts to the Congresswoman's husband.

RAHM’S ‘RENT’ IS JUST THE TIP OF ETHICS ICEBERG

807 sattv4u2  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:37:58am

re: #803 LindaMarie

Evening all from cloudy (was snowing) Kabul.The glass is half full. It s

topped snowing for now.
re: #780 realwest

Only what I read on the internet. The only news channels here are BBC and CNN so I watch Animal Planet. One of the problems with that is when it is evening here it is the middle of the night here - and Animal Planets Funnist is not very funny

on the TV or thru the window?

808 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:39:04am

re: #805 Chicago Blonde

"But you aren't one now."

/Ah Monty Python. Isn't there any time when you bring a smile to my face?

809 Desert Dog  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:39:39am

re: #806 Luigi

While he was Chairman of the Democratic Party, Rhambo may have been living rent free in a swank DC apartment owned by a Dem Congresswoman while he was handing huge Democratic Party polling contracts to the Congresswoman's husband.

RAHM’S ‘RENT’ IS JUST THE TIP OF ETHICS ICEBERG

Well, let's just be thankful that Obama's administration is the most ethical and transparent the USA has ever seen.....

/

810 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:40:21am

re: #800 Dustyvet
Mom and I are doing ok, thanks. I didn't receive any e-mail from you - what do you mean "pain issues"? Cripes, not like in '01 I hope!

811 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:40:29am

re: #806 Luigi
Thank you for posting that.
/...But aren't ethics only for us little people?

812 Irish Rose  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:40:46am

Good morning, from the snowy north.
Another 8 inches of global warming dumped on my location over the weekend, and it's still coming down. We're currently under whiteout conditions.

/please God, make it stop.

813 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:41:12am

re: #795 Desert Dog
They might consider a few rather basic changes in their "philosophy".

814 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:42:17am

re: #808 BlueCanuck

Love Python. My favorite bit is the leaves in The Meaning of Life. The first time I saw that I was laughing so hard I couldn't get air into my lungs. Scared my poor mom, she thought I was sobbing. Played it for her and she just howled too...

815 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:43:12am

re: #803 LindaMarie Ah, well then, allow me to fill you in: Obama has ordered 17,000 more combat troops (Army and Marines) into Afghanistan while saying that the war there is too expensive and might have to be scaled back.
So you see, you don't have to get any news channels there to be as confused as are we! LOL!
I do hope that you are doing well.

816 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:43:14am

re: #810 realwest

Mom and I are doing ok, thanks. I didn't receive any e-mail from you - what do you mean "pain issues"? Cripes, not like in '01 I hope!

No, arthritic problems in neck. In regard to email, that's the 6th email this week that's gone missing in transit, thinking it's time to find a new server...:(

817 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:44:18am

re: #797 realwest

Hey! That's just some wonderful news about Julie! Mazel Tov!
But how about YOURSELF - how are you doing this morning?

I'm feeling great, especially after going shopping and buying some new shoes - nothing like a bit of new shoe therapy :-)

And I did need new shoes, my ex is getting married on Saturday and I like dressing up nicely for a wedding

I wanted to be bridesmaid but he said no! :-)

818 LindaMarie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:45:34am

A select listing of directions to Kabul resturants.
If they ever repaint the guard houses or more the cement barriers the resturants will go bust.

RED HOT & SIZZLIN'
Location: Microyan; Best bet the first time is to go with someone who's been there. But if you must, come from Wazir on the main road through Massoud circle, straight through the Jalalabad road circle and come across the river. Take the first right and go down until the end of the Russian apartment buildings on your left. Make a left at the new shopping center with the pizza place on the corner. Make a left at the next traffic circle. Slow down. The first gate on the right will have a red chili pepper hanging up on a pole. That's it. Good luck.


SHANDIZ
Location: Wazir Akbar Khan; Pakistan Embassy Street, down before the barricades on the left

SAMARQAND
Location: Qala Musa; Turn right at Charyi Haji Yakub, go down the street past the birdcage then make the first left. Make the first right and it's down a block on the right. Big grey gate.


CORNER PIZZERIA
Location: Wazir Akbar Khan; Swing around main circle and put The Grill on your right, head down the barricaded street to almost the end. You'll see big misspelled banners showing you the way.

GANDAMACK
Location: Shar-e Now; Between DHL and the Mustafa across the street from the secret police office.


POPOLANO
Location: Shar-e Now; Toilet Street between Charyi Ansari and Ministry of Interior Street

LE BISTRO
Location: Shar-e Now. Behind Ministry of Interior, on the street parallel to Chicken Street. Coming down from the Kabul City Center with the Park on your left, make a right on the street at the end of the park, across from the gas station, then make the next left. If you survive the ride down this street for a long block you'll see the sign for Le Bistro hanging at the corner where you'll make the right turn, then the restaurant is on your right.


No building or house numbers. No post office service either.

819 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:45:59am

re: #816 Dustyvet
((Dustyvet))
I'm sorry about the neck pain and the server.

820 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:46:05am

re: #806 Luigi
Excellent comment and link, thank you!

821 LindaMarie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:46:48am

re: #807 sattv4u2

Animal Planet or the snow or both?

822 topazpilot  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:47:01am

re: #805 Chicago Blonde

I will always upding a monty python reference!

823 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:47:36am

re: #819 Chicago Blonde

((Dustyvet))
I'm sorry about the neck pain and the server.

Thanks. Do you use SBC Global by chance?

824 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:49:51am

re: #816 Dustyvet Whew, not that arthiritic neck pain is fun or anything, but it coulda been worse my friend. Hey, why doncha copy the e-mail from your "sent" files and try sending it again (and then call your e-mail carrier - I hope for your sake it's not Earthlink - and either get the issue resolved or get a new e-mail server!)?
Do you have any "happy pills" to help you with the neck pain?

825 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:50:04am

re: #821 LindaMarie

Animal Planet or the snow or both?

I watch animal planet in my bathroom...where the mighty litter kicker lurks...:) If I don't sweep up after the little sod, my bathroom floor becomes a gravel drive way.

826 LindaMarie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:50:10am

re: #815 realwest

That I read on the Internet. The "truce" in the swat valley is what I worry about.
It will not stop there. Radical Islam I mean.

827 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:50:55am

re: #818 LindaMarie

Hi, and thanks for this.....

Toilet Street...LOL!

828 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:51:26am

re: #817 aussiemagpie
Hey I'm kinda surprised he even invited you to the wedding...........and more surprised that you're going!
Any excuse for new shoes, eh?! LOL!

829 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:51:59am

re: #824 realwest

Whew, not that arthiritic neck pain is fun or anything, but it coulda been worse my friend. Hey, why doncha copy the e-mail from your "sent" files and try sending it again (and then call your e-mail carrier - I hope for your sake it's not Earthlink - and either get the issue resolved or get a new e-mail server!)?
Do you have any "happy pills" to help you with the neck pain?

I got cut off those:( I was issued a Tens Unit by the VA, and acetaminophen.

830 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:53:36am

re: #827 aussiemagpie

Hi, and thanks for this.....

Toilet Street...LOL!

Magpie are you near Sydney?

831 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:53:39am

re: #826 LindaMarie
What? Whatever could go wrong with that "truce"?!?
IIRC, the swat area has NEVER been controlled by anyone other than warlords in the first place, and everyone knows how much you can trust a warlord, right?
/

832 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:54:53am

re: #829 Dustyvet
acetaminophen is just Tylenol, what's a Tens Unit?

833 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:55:24am

re: #823 Dustyvet

No, no SBC Global.

The Mighty Litter Kicker? That's awesome! I know, how can such a little critter sling such a wide path of gravel?

834 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:56:31am

re: #822 topazpilot

What's your favorite? I love Meaning of Life; the Crimson Permanent Assurance sequences and the Leaves just do it for me.

835 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:57:00am

re: #829 Dustyvet

I got cut off those:( I was issued a Tens Unit by the VA, and acetaminophen.

I love my Tens Unit.
Have you tried Celebrex?

836 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:57:37am

re: #831 realwest

What? Whatever could go wrong with that "truce"?!?
IIRC, the swat area has NEVER been controlled by anyone other than warlords in the first place, and everyone knows how much you can trust a warlord, right?
/

I remember when braking a ceasefire was called a violation. You know penalty flags all over the place...5 yard penaltys doe roughing the VC.

/s

837 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:58:18am

re: #835 J.D.

I love my Tens Unit.
Have you tried Celebrex?

Yes, but with heart trouble the VA won't give me that anymore...:(

838 LindaMarie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:59:24am

re: #831 realwest

Amen or Inshallah.
Butcherer's

839 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:00:30am

re: #832 realwest

acetaminophen is just Tylenol, what's a Tens Unit?

It's an electronic device that sort of gives little zaps of electricity through leads.

840 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:01:12am

re: #832 realwest

acetaminophen is just Tylenol, what's a Tens Unit?

Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation Units

841 Luigi  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:01:27am

Obama's instinct seems to be to surround himself with politicians who are already politically crippled. He does not seem to trust honest people. By surrounding himself with crippled politicians he knows they will never raise their voices no matter what he does because they're just like he is, and he knows he doesn't need much of a reason to throw them away, and will look like a hero when he does.

I look forward to the day when they put Obama under oath and ask him anything! Ask him what time it is. He'll lie.

Impeachable offenses

The Constitution defines impeachment at the federal level and limits impeachment to "The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may only be impeached and removed for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".

Maybe Rezko will yet be this guy's downfall.

842 FrogMarch  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:02:13am

re: #779 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Heroic age of US newspapers ends with a whimper

Now the much larger, far more critical task...separation of MfM & State.

chop-chop.

Here in Boulder, CO the front page of our Newspaper-- The Boulder Daily Camera-- has an article about how CU students were polled and they are really upset, dude, that "The Dark Knight" wasn't nominated for best picture.
"Dark Knight was robbed, man" . Hard to imagine why so many newspapers are failing.

843 Chicago Blonde  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:02:51am

*reluctantly pulling herself away*
Goodbye everyone, I have stuff I need to do (but would rather be here)...if I don't see you later today I should be back tomorrow.

844 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:03:39am

re: #843 Chicago Blonde

*reluctantly pulling herself away*
Goodbye everyone, I have stuff I need to do (but would rather be here)...if I don't see you later today I should be back tomorrow.

Bye Chicago...take care...:)

845 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:04:55am

Good Morning all. Attorney General Eric Holder wishes this nation of 'cowards" a great Sunday.

846 Teacake!  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:05:16am

Just heard on the radio news that 5 pallies were found dead in a gaza tunnel - suffocated because they crammed each other in and couldn't move. (lol)

847 Geepers  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:06:10am

Hey J.D.

How's the world treatin' ya?

848 gettinby  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:06:23am

re: #840 J.D.

Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation Units

Sounds sexy!

/Seriously, though, I'm glad for you that it helps with your pain.
//Wasn't our new President supposed to do away with our pain?

Good morning all.

Hiya {realwest}!

849 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:07:10am

re: #839 Dustyvet
Whoa - electrical stimulation to where - your neck?! Isn't that sorta, ah, risky business for you? I mean there are OTHER forms of pain medication than Tylenol or Tens Units, even if the VA hasn't heard about 'em yet!

850 ziggyelman  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:07:33am

Jindal, everyone's fav gov, ;) is on Meet the Press now.

851 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:08:18am

Morning gettinby. How's things down where you are?

852 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:08:49am

re: #847 Geepers

:-O

Well, I'll be.

Fancy seeing you here! lol

I'm doing well, thanks.
How it going?

853 gettinby  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:09:22am

re: #851 BlueCanuck

{BlueCanuck}!

Hi good lookin'!

Married yet?

854 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:09:35am

re: #846 Teacake!

Just heard on the radio news that 5 pallies were found dead in a gaza tunnel - suffocated because they crammed each other in and couldn't move. (lol)

Sending one of those horse shoe shaped deals with a blue ribbon with Gold letters that reads:

GOOD LUCK IN YOUR NEW LOCATION!


/S

855 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:10:22am

re: #845 opnion
Good morning opnion! Say, why is it that Holder's comments remind me SO MUCH of Jimmy Carter's Maliasse Speech?
I mean, it's at least unseemly to claim that a nation which has a Black President and a Black Attorney General is full of cowardice when it comes to racial issues, doncha think?

856 FrogMarch  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:11:21am
857 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:11:48am

re: #847 Geepers
Hey Geepers! How the heck are you? Haven't seen you around much lately........unless of course we're working different schedules!
Seriously, how are you my friend?

858 Geepers  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:12:08am

J.D. (#852),

Doin just fine.

Getting ready for a weeks vacation in Colodado skiing.

859 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:12:20am

re: #828 realwest

Hey I'm kinda surprised he even invited you to the wedding...........and more surprised that you're going!
Any excuse for new shoes, eh?! LOL!

Luckily we've had a divorce made in heaven :-) We've been good mates for a long time - it's been 14 years :-)

Plus he's marrying one of my good friends!

860 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:13:02am

re: #853 gettinby

{BlueCanuck}!

Hi good lookin'!

Married yet?

MARRIED! Perish the thought. Tried it once and it's going to be awhile till I try it again. ;)

861 gettinby  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:13:05am

Is aussiemagpie still here?

Hello {aussie}!

So glad to hear the good news about Julie. You and your family deserve all the good things in life.

/still missing the good ol' days of the DDT? I do. LOL

862 FrogMarch  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:13:06am
863 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:13:11am

re: #848 gettinby
Hey hi there {gettinby} - how are you doing? Mom and I are ok.

864 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:13:41am

re: #859 aussiemagpie

Luckily we've had a divorce made in heaven :-) We've been good mates for a long time - it's been 14 years :-)

Plus he's marrying one of my good friends!

Did you see my question?...:)

865 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:14:33am

re: #830 Dustyvet

Magpie are you near Sydney?

Hi, Dustyvet!

Yes we live in a suburb of Sydney, about 20kms SW of the city :-)

866 Geepers  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:15:07am

Morning realwest.

Been keepin' busy so I don't get a lot of time online.

867 gettinby  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:15:07am

re: #858 Geepers

J.D. (#852),

Doin just fine.

Getting ready for a weeks vacation in Colodado skiing.

Ohhhh....fun!

Which mountain(s)?

We lived in Basalt (just a weebit down mountain from Aspen) for a short while. Gorgeous country.

868 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:15:27am

re: #865 aussiemagpie

Hi, Dustyvet!

Yes we live in a suburb of Sydney, about 20kms SW of the city :-)

Could you help with something?

869 gettinby  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:16:33am

re: #860 BlueCanuck

MARRIED! Perish the thought. Tried it once and it's going to be awhile till I try it again. ;)

I'm one-for-three. Finally figured out how to make it work I think.

You doing okay? Job still the same-old, same-old?

870 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:16:37am

re: #848 gettinby

Sounds sexy!

/Seriously, though, I'm glad for you that it helps with your pain.
//Wasn't our new President supposed to do away with our pain?

Good morning all.

Hiya {realwest}!

Thanks. It really does work or, when you are really miserable, help.

I wouldn't say it is sexy..., although...

871 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:16:43am

re: #855 realwest

Good morning opnion! Say, why is it that Holder's comments remind me SO MUCH of Jimmy Carter's Maliasse Speech?
I mean, it's at least unseemly to claim that a nation which has a Black President and a Black Attorney General is full of cowardice when it comes to racial issues, doncha think?

Good morning right back at ya Real. Holder exhibits the attitude that nothing will ever be good enough. The election of a Black President is not good enough, four decades of tremendously expensive entitlement & set aside programs, not good enouigh.
It is becuse of people like Holder that there can't be an honest discussion about race. If you start form any position other than WHite Guilt, that is by definition racist to people like Holder.

872 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:19:02am

re: #858 Geepers

J.D. (#852),

Doin just fine.

Getting ready for a weeks vacation in Colodado skiing.

And just what do you know about skiing? lol

Sounds like a plan. Enjoy! [I'm sure you will.]

873 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:19:05am

re: #866 Geepers
AHA! I KNEW IT ! You have a real life, don't you?!? I just knew it!
LOL.
Well, I'm glad you are busy and I'm glad to see/hear from you any time.

874 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:19:21am

re: #869 gettinby

Job is the same, but things could be worse. I could be unemployed.

875 albusteve  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:20:39am

re: #862 FrogMarch

The face of corruption, tax cheating and Freddie Mac money grubbing.

pretty concise...I'm so overstimulated I can barely keep up...I did not know FM was fines by the SEC...etc etc etc...

876 gettinby  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:20:52am

re: #863 realwest

Soooo glad you and mom are doing okay. As you've probably noticed, my emails have even started to slack off some. Miss it.

I get here what little I can to catch up on the real news, without having to slog thru the garbage to find out what's really going on.

Right now, I'm looking for a good deal on a new laptop for Mr. GBy. His 4-yo Compaq 17" POS has totally crashed - kablooey. Not even enough time to give it CPR for a partial rescue. LOL

877 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:20:55am

Good morning, Lizards.

878 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:23:18am

Ed Rendell is on FNC with Chris Wallace right now. He is defending the Obama stimuluis plan, not because it's all that good, but because it's 'Better than what Bush did."
Man, the Libs miss Viet Nam & Bush.

879 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:23:56am

re: #871 opnion
"It is becuse of people like Holder that there can't be an honest discussion about race. If you start form any position other than WHite Guilt, that is by definition racist to people like Holder."
Amen to that one. I'd still like to ask Obama (well, I'd like to ask him a lot of things, but this in particular) when is the US going to cut all ties with African and Arab states that currently still permit slavery? Even just as a "show" that we find this slavery reprehensible?

880 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:03am

Anyone seen anything about this anywhere else?
Dodd's 'Cottage': A Cozy Purchase

881 songbird  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:04am

The sun arises
A cup of tea restores me
LGF beckons!


Good Morning, Lizards!

882 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:40am

re: #881 songbird

The sun arises
A cup of tea restores me
LGF beckons!

Good Morning, Lizards!

{songbird}

883 LindaMarie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:41am

re: #846 Teacake!

I differ over the lol.

Death is never funny.
It can be sad, it can be welcomed and it may even be somehow deservered.
It is not funny.. ever.
My opinion

884 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:41am

Stock market advice...

Stock market will tank again Wed. Reason, Obama is speaking to a joint meeting of congress Tues. night. Sell, or but, or don't do anything, it doesn't matter. Financial advice from It Doesn't Matter Financial Services.

885 Geepers  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:42am
U.S. officials are furious with the United Nations for its role in Hamas' attempt to enlist U.S. Sen John Kerry to transfer a letter from the Palestinian militant group to President Obama during Kerry's trip to the Middle East,

Kerry turned the letter over to the U.S. consulate in Jerusalem on Friday, saying he was unaware that it was from Hamas until hearing about the letter in media reports,

U.S. officials in Jerusalem are outraged at the United Nations Relief and Works agency for apparently handing the letter off to Kerry.

The Hamas official who wrote the letter confirmed to FOX News that he wrote Obama personally, asking him not to be biased toward Israel in its conflict with the Palestinians and to act fairly. He also said Hamas is ready to talk directly to a new American administration.

Kerry's still completely clueless. And the UN is still in bed with the terrorists.

Some things never change.

886 abolitionist  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:25:34am

Blast in China coal mine kills 74
Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:58am EST

BEIJING (Reuters) - A blast in a coal mine killed 74 miners in China's Shanxi province on Sunday and scores more were rescued after being trapped underground for hours, Xinhua news agency reported.
[snip]

The gas explosion happened the day after senior provincial officials held a conference about mine safety, in which they pledged to try to put an end to deadly mining accidents.

887 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:26:04am

re: #885 Geepers

Kerry's still completely clueless. And the UN is still in bed with the terrorists. Some things never change.

What the fuck did he think it was, a recipe for falafel?

888 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:26:06am

re: #885 Geepers

Kerry's still completely clueless. And the UN is still in bed with the terrorists.

Some things never change.

But Kerry is one heck of a windsurfer for a guy his age!

889 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:26:07am

re: #861 gettinby

Is aussiemagpie still here?

Hello {aussie}!

So glad to hear the good news about Julie. You and your family deserve all the good things in life.

/still missing the good ol' days of the DDT? I do. LOL

{gettinby} G'day!

Yes the good old days....and I can't believe that sometimes I used to stay up ALL night posting on LGF and then go to work!

Loved those days *sigh*

People move on and others get the stick I suppose....but it's so good to see some of us oldies still hanging around - though it has been lovely meeting new lizards too :-)

Thanks for thinking about Julie too, it''s now hard to imagine that life of going to hospital every evening, then posting here,sleeping for a bit, working....

The support from all my LGF friends really helped me :-)

890 songbird  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:26:55am

re: #882 goddessoftheclassroom

{songbird}

{goddess} How are you this fine morning?

891 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:27:44am

re: #876 gettinby
Well shoot - with prices dropping like a rock, y'all ought to be able to get a GREAT laptop for him. I'd check out HP if I were you - I love, LOVE my new desktop PC made by them. IF y'all have a Best Buy somewhere near you, and can find some time, head on over and check 'em out - usually good pricing and great selection!

892 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:28:25am

re: #877 goddessoftheclassroom Good morning {goddess} - I hope you're doing well today?

893 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:28:38am

re: #879 realwest

"It is becuse of people like Holder that there can't be an honest discussion about race. If you start form any position other than WHite Guilt, that is by definition racist to people like Holder."
Amen to that one. I'd still like to ask Obama (well, I'd like to ask him a lot of things, but this in particular) when is the US going to cut all ties with African and Arab states that currently still permit slavery? Even just as a "show" that we find this slavery reprehensible?

That would be an excellent question, but do you think that he would answer it directly? I think that he would stutter & stammer & go into some obfuscation about an inter-dependent world, blah , blah.

894 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:28:50am

re: #864 Dustyvet

Did you see my question?...:)

Yes.... don't be so impatient! You're dealing with a two finger typist here :-)

895 Geepers  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:29:50am

gettinby (#867),

Which mountain(s)?

Breckenridge.

We lived in Basalt (just a weebit down mountain from Aspen) for a short while. Gorgeous country.

No doubt. I lived in Basalt back when I was working for Aspen Skier Services. And yes, gorgeous country.

896 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:29:52am

Which side of the war would you like to be on? [Mark Steyn]

Old-fashioned types might think that those Britons - okay, make that "Britons" - helping to manufacture bombs for the Taliban are engaged in an act of treason. But, as a current court case in Quebec helps clarify, giving support to the Queen's enemies in their attempts to kill your compatriots is now just another vibrant, colorful manifestation of cultural diversity.

As the International Free Press Society notes, Said Namouh is on trial up north for aiding and abetting terrorism. The Crown charges that Mr Namouh distributed jihadist snuff videos, offered advice on bomb-making, volunteered his expertise for a planned truck bombing, and threatened governnments (including Canada's) with troops in Afghanistan. Defense counsel René Duvall doesn't deny any of this, but says his client's enthusiasm for violent jihad is protected on grounds of freedom of religion and (mirthless chuckle from your humble typist) Canadians' cherished right to freedom of expression. As Maître Duvall put it outside the court, "Where do you draw the line?"

In fact, the line seems to be pretty clear: If a jihadist says he wants to kill Canadian troops, he's just exercising his right to freedom of religion. If I quote what he said in Canada's biggest-selling news weekly, we'll be charged with "flagrant Islamophobia" and hauled up in court. ...

897 albusteve  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:30:01am

re: #893 opnion

That would be an excellent question, but do you think that he would answer it directly? I think that he would stutter & stammer & go into some obfuscation about an inter-dependent world, blah , blah.

don't let him...pin his ass to the floor and demand a straight answer...right...pass the green cheese

898 gettinby  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:30:32am

re: #889 aussiemagpie

The support from all my LGF friends really helped me :-)

LGF is an amazing site, isn't it!?

899 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:30:35am

{real}
{gettinby}
{aussiemagpie}
{Walter L. Newton}
{J.D.}
{abolitionist}
{LindaMarie}
{Geepers}

I'm fine, thanks!

900 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:30:49am

re: #884 Walter L. Newton
Good morning Walter! "It Doesn't Matter Financial Services" at last, truth in advertising!
:)

901 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:30:56am

Morning {goddes}, enjoying the weekend?

902 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:31:21am

re: #868 Dustyvet

Could you help with something?

Not sure what I could help with? :-)

903 Kenneth  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:31:37am

Good morning folks... two interesting reports, taken together make for some disturbing conclusions:

First this,

Coming to America, Redux


Last month, during the transition between the Bush and Obama Administrations, there was a major homeland security "war game." For two-and-a half hours on a day in mid-January, senior federal officials reacted to a series of simulated, terrorist bombings across the country, responding to medical needs, managing the investigative process and ensuring that protective forces were deployed.

The exercise was unique for a couple of reasons. First, the Bush team allowed their Obama counterparts to "sit in" on the exercise and ask questions, giving them a foundation for their own drills and policies in the future. Secondly, the war game scenario was based on a familiar threat, one that remains at the forefront of homeland security concerns. ..., the half-day exercise condensed two days of IED attacks, targeting economic and transportation centers across America.

And this...

Is Your Neighborhood on Terror Hit List?
Mumbai terrorists 'had 320 targets around world'

904 gettinby  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:31:46am

re: #891 realwest

Good advice, thanks!

{goddess}! Good morning.

905 3 wood  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:32:09am

re: #900 realwest

Good morning real, how are you today?

906 songbird  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:32:21am

Good Morning, Realwest!

{realwest}

907 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:32:27am

re: #899 goddessoftheclassroom

{real}
{gettinby}
{aussiemagpie}
{Walter L. Newton}
{J.D.}
{abolitionist}
{LindaMarie}
{Geepers}

I'm fine, thanks!

Morning. Goddessoftheclassroom, or as I like to shorten it to Godessone.

908 topazpilot  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:32:45am

re: #834 Chicago Blonde

I'm a huge fan of the Holy Grail and much of Life of Brian, especially the stoning scene "All I said was this halibut was good enough for Jehovah" or something along those lines. In skits nothing beats the Dead Parrot, paying for an argument, vikings eating spam "but I don't like spam!," and the spanish inquisition. I don't know why but the fish slapping dance always gives me a good chuckle. I have a movie poster framed of the crucifixion scene at the end of Life of Brian on my living room wall. It shows Graham Chapman with his jeans around his ankles and Eric Idle sporting a pair of converse.

909 Geepers  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:33:43am

realwest (#873),

AHA! I KNEW IT ! You have a real life, don't you?!? I just knew it!

If by "real life" you mean: endless mundanity and chores, then yes. ;-)

910 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:33:46am

re: #897 albusteve

don't let him...pin his ass to the floor and demand a straight answer...right...pass the green cheese


That could only happen In a one & one interview. At press conferences, Obama does not allow follow up questions.
Te only way that it could work is if the media conspired to ask follow up's for each other.

911 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:34:19am

re: #907 Walter L. Newton

Morning. Goddessoftheclassroom, or as I like to shorten it to Godessone.

Hee! Hee!

912 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:34:42am

re: #900 realwest

Good morning Walter! "It Doesn't Matter Financial Services" at last, truth in advertising!
:)

I want to throw the radio out the window when I hear the ads from the financial services companies. These jerks will keep on and on with their fucking touting this or that way to make a shitload of bucks while the damn ship is sinking all around them.

Really, financial advisors in my world are no better than used car salesmen.

913 Kenneth  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:34:42am

re: #879 realwest

Good point but... given the NOI actively supports the genocidal jihad in Sudan, in which arabs are enslaving blacks, one cannot expect any moral consistency from the Obama admin on this issue.

914 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:35:00am

re: #893 opnionWell, yeah. I suppose I shoulda added "I'd like to ask Obama, in completer privacy, one on one.............."
But I suspect he's programmed to respond to questions like that - still and all, I am programmed to break through that programming (though I suspect the USSS would take a dim view of me grabbing him by the shirt and shaking him when I asked!).

915 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:35:14am

re: #908 topazpilot

My favorite scene now is the "Help, I'm being oppressed" one.

916 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:35:22am

re: #899 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning!

917 albusteve  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:36:15am

re: #910 opnion

That could only happen In a one & one interview. At press conferences, Obama does not allow follow up questions.
Te only way that it could work is if the media conspired to ask follow up's for each other.

blurt it out...man up...what good is a WH press pass if the president has a boot on your neck?...it has to start somewhere

918 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:36:32am

re: #915 goddessoftheclassroom

My favorite scene now is the "Help, I'm being oppressed" one.

Jesus did, sir. I was hopping along, minding my own business, all of a sudden, up he comes, cures me! One minute I'm a leper with a trade, next minute my livelihood's gone. Not so much as a by-your-leave! "You're cured, mate." Bloody do-gooder.

919 FrogMarch  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:36:37am

re: #875 albusteve

pretty concise...I'm so overstimulated I can barely keep up...I did not know FM was fines by the SEC...etc etc etc...

All sorts of democrats milked Freddie Mac. Ironically - primarily becasue Freddie Mac was left unchecked without the holy grail of democrat drum beat "regulations". The Democrats shouted DO NOT REGULATE FREDDIE AND FANNIE - All while they happily received in millions in payments.

and the Democrats demand to regulate every other aspect of the free market. Just don't regulate the government entities where democrats stand the most to gain financially.

920 gettinby  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:37:19am

re: #895 Geepers

Basalt?! Heh. Small world. The population when I was there was only about 748.2 people.

Enjoy your trip...I'm sure you deserve all the good fun it will offer.

/Do at least one swoosh for me and my memories of the great skiing there.

921 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:37:23am

Matthias: Look, I don't think it should be a sin, just for saying "Jehovah".
[Everyone gasps]
Jewish Official: You're only making it worse for yourself!
Matthias: Making it worse? How can it be worse? Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!
Jewish Official: I'm warning you! If you say "Jehovah" one more time (gets hit with rock) RIGHT! Who did that? Come on, who did it?
Stoners: She did! She did! (suddenly speaking as men) He! He did! He!
Jewish Official: Was it you?
Stoner: Yes.
Jewish Official: Right...
Stoner: Well you did say "Jehovah. "
[Crowd throws rocks at the stoner]
Jewish Official: STOP IT! STOP IT! STOP IT RIGHT NOW! STOP IT! All right, no one is to stone _anyone_ until I blow this whistle. Even... and I want to make this absolutely clear... even if they do say, "Jehovah. "
[Crowd stones the Jewish Official to death]

922 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:37:33am

re: #915 goddessoftheclassroom

My favorite scene now is the "Help, I'm being oppressed" one.

Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Yes, that is a hilarious scene. I am partial to the Black Knight. "come back here, I will bite your legs off. Coward!"

923 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:37:35am

re: #915 goddessoftheclassroom

response to being oppressed ... uh ... well ... er ... kind of

Good morning!
MWAH

924 Kenneth  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:37:47am

re: #918 Walter L. Newton

Blessed are the cheesemakers.

925 Geepers  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:38:08am

Morning goddessoftheclassroom.

Hope all is well with you.

926 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:38:37am

re: #898 gettinby

LGF is an amazing site, isn't it!?

During that dreadful time when Julie was in and out of hospital, I really loved being on LGF - it was a real relief to be part of such great group of people and who helped me stay sane :-)

927 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:38:40am

Hi, good morning lizards.
I'm back from up-thread. - A little rant -

Why is it that ex heads of state like Jimmy Carter and Germany's Ex-Chancellor Gerhard Schröder turn into treasonous asshat's of the first order?

Germany's Ex-Chancellor Schroeder Meets Iran's President


This so called private visit of Schröder in Iran to meet also with Mahmud Ahmadinedschad is highly political. As Iran's President is currently fighting for his reelection and Schröder's visit could nicely benefit this creep. The outrage in the German politics and media circle is big, yet the German Foreign ministry is keeping silent.
This is the very same Ex-Chancellor Schröders who called Vladimir Putin a 'flawless' democrat and who went to work for the Russian energy giant Gazprom after not being reelected.

928 albusteve  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:26am

re: #919 FrogMarch

All sorts of democrats milked Freddie Mac. Ironically - primarily becasue Freddie Mac was left unchecked without the holy grail of democrat drum beat "regulations". The Democrats shouted DO NOT REGULATE FREDDIE AND FANNIE - All while they happily received in millions in payments.

and the Democrats demand to regulate every other aspect of the free market. Just don't regulate the government entities where democrats stand the most to gain financially.

yes I know...now the same ass holes that threw us overboard are set to rescue us?...it's laughable...in my mind they are actually criminal

929 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:27am

re: #899 goddessoftheclassroom

Hello {goddessoftheclassroom}!

930 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:27am

re: #923 pre-Boomer Marine brat

response to being oppressed ... uh ... well ... er ... kind of

Good morning!
MWAH

Judith: [on Stan's desire to be a mother] Here! I've got an idea: Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb - which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans' - but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother... sister, sorry.
Reg: What's the *point*?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.

931 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:52am

Good morning Lizards. This weekend we hosted a most inspiring guest for Shabbat. An Israeli gentleman whose wife, 21 years ago, gave birth to triplets (natural, not IVF induced). Two of the babies were healthy, but the third had cerebral palsy. This man has dedicated the rest of his life to seeking the best treatment for cerebral palsy patients in Israel. He has already established a special hospital in Jerusalem, and invites specialists from all over the world. Patients receive treatment, therapy, and for children from large families, there is daycare with dedicated therapists on site 24/7.

The purpose is to find the best and most up-to-date treatment for this disability, and enable patients to live happy, fulfilled and independent lives.

The organization is Tikvah Layeled.

932 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:53am

re: #903 Kenneth

With our new Admin:

....the half-day exercise condensed two days of IED attacks, targeting economic and transportation centers across anything not already destroyed by the President's New Lousy Deal in America.

the plans have been changed.

933 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:58am

re: #903 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth! I know the precise location of the BEST target for Al-Q or any other terrorist organization, but I won't say it out here - not because I think I'm so much smarter than they are, but because I truly am afraid that an attack with a WMD (even just a dirty bomb) would wreack havoc here and don't want to give all those "doctors" any ideas.
How are you today? How's the family doing?

934 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:40:28am

re: #924 Kenneth

Blessed are the cheesemakers.

Spectator I: I think it was "Blessed are the cheesemakers".
Mrs. Gregory: Aha, what's so special about the cheesemakers?
Gregory: Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

935 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:40:28am

re: #914 realwest

Well, yeah. I suppose I shoulda added "I'd like to ask Obama, in completer privacy, one on one.............."
But I suspect he's programmed to respond to questions like that - still and all, I am programmed to break through that programming (though I suspect the USSS would take a dim view of me grabbing him by the shirt and shaking him when I asked!).

Don't worry about the Secret Service. We will set up a Real West Defense Fund. We'll take to the streets. We will speak truth to power baby! And when you get out of the joint in, oh I don't know five years we'll have a party.

936 Geepers  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:41:38am

gettinby (#920),

Do at least one swoosh for me and my memories of the great skiing there.

Oh yeah, at least one. :-)

937 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:41:53am

re: #905 3 wood
Hey, good morning my friend, I'm doing ok thanks. How about you?
Oh and I meant to e-mail you, but if you should meet up with that fella we've discussed, could ya please ask him, again, to e-mail me?

938 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:42:38am

re: #906 songbird
Good morning back atcha {songbird} - hope you're doinig well today!

939 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:44:33am

The FNC panel is discussing Holder's comments now.
As usual Juan Williams is being honest. He is condemning Holder & speculating that he will get hate mail, calling him a Tom, etc.

940 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:44:34am

re: #899 goddessoftheclassroom

Hello {goddessoftheclassroom}!

941 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:44:36am
942 FrogMarch  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:45:16am

re: #928 albusteve

yes I know...now the same ass holes that threw us overboard are set to rescue us?...it's laughable...in my mind they are actually criminal

Yep. The foxes criminals are guarding the hen house golden-egg laying goose house.

943 Geepers  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:45:39am

Good to see ya 3 wood.

How's things?

944 Ojoe  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:46:49am

Here are the San Gabriel Mountains of California in the early morning. Towercam, Pacific time zone.

Happy Washington's birthday.

And here is a Sunday morning Merton quote:

"In the center of our being is a point of nothingness
which is untouched by sin and illusion,

a point of pure truth,
a point or spark which belongs entirely to God,
which is never at our disposal,
from which God disposes of our lives,
which is inaccessible to the fantasies of our own mind,
or the brutalities of our own will.

This little point of pure nothingness and of absolute poverty is the pure glory of God in us.

It is like a pure diamond, blazing with the invisible light of heaven.

It is in everybody, and if we could see it
we would see these billions of points of light
coming together in the face and blaze of a sun
that would make all the darkness and cruelty of life vanish
completely.

I have no program for this seeing.
It is only given.

But the gate of heaven is everywhere.

945 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:46:58am


re: #940 callahan23

Hello {goddessoftheclassroom}!

{callahan}

946 Kenneth  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:46:59am

re: #933 realwest

You are wise not to say it. There was a report several weeks ago about a suspected Hexbollah cell scoping Jewish sites in Toronto. Sooner or later something horrible will happen. A friend of mine was in Mumbai last week. he stayed at the big hotel where the attacks occurred and had a tour of some of the damaged sections. He said the amount of damage was incredible.

Thanks for asking, the family is doing fine. I hope you're doing all right today.

Gotta run.

947 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:47:14am

re: #941 goddessoftheclassroom

I'd rather dance...

MWAH!

Domo arigato for that!

948 Ojoe  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:48:09am

re: #915 goddessoftheclassroom

"King of the Ooo?"

LOL

949 3 wood  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:48:10am

re: #937 realwest

Sure I will. I probably will see him tonight.

In financial news folks, the whole focus this week will revolve around the "toxic assets". The market as a whole has gotten tired of waiting on the Obama Administration to deal with these in a way that makes sense. Until the "toxic assets" are dealt with, the market will assume that the banking system is going to be nationalized, which means that share holder equity will go to zero, so financial stocks will drop to near zero and stay there unless and until Geithner finds a clue.

950 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:49:11am

re: #931 Alouette
Good morning to you and thank you for sharing that with us.

951 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:50:13am

re: #917 albusteve

blurt it out...man up...what good is a WH press pass if the president has a boot on your neck?...it has to start somewhere

They might lose their White House credentials If they start badgering & keep in mind the Media Press corps with maybe the exception of Major Garret have a crush on Obama.

952 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:50:34am

re: #935 opnion
You're uh, support is absolutely underwhelming but appreciated! LOL!

953 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:51:11am

re: #887 Walter L. Newton

What the fuck did he think it was, a recipe for falafel?

Maybe orders for a 4th Purple Heart?


/S

954 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:51:19am

Lizard Prayer List 2/21/09
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Community issues:

Our country going forward
Our troops
Israel
Australia fighting wild fires
Georgia/Ossetia
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

Thanksgivings
knitwit: mother’s peaceful passing after long illness
HoosierHoops: son Jordan deployed to Japan instead of Afghanistan & grandchild on the way
BaseballMom57: husband recovering at home
Vxbush: health issues diagnosed
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans

Health issues:
bbuddha: mother-in-law not eating or drinking
Hoppes: has sick children, lost her MIL, and is very stressed
Kenneth: mom diagnosed with cancer and has been told she has a matter of weeks left.
UberInfidel67: brothers health after polyps removal
Aussiemagpie: children with health issues
Walter Cronanty: son with recurrence of leukemia & recovering from bone marrow transplant.
logboy: recovery from injuries received in combat in Iraq
Dublin(CA)Dude – extensive cancer
gettinby: sister diagnosed with Sjogren’s Syndrome
Yochanan: d-i-l (ronite bas golda) undergoing surgery.
Knitwit: niece Elizabeth has a nasty MRSA infection after orthopedic surgery
tfc3rid: gf's 89 year old grandmother (suffered a a large stroke and is in rehab) and her uncle who is suffering from throat cancer; and continued prayers for dad who has MS
Typicalwhitey: father’s undergoing tests for pancreatic cancer
MNsnowlizard: Had open heart surgery in February (35 years old) and could be facing another one
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
mikeymom: sister suffered a stroke
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father back in the hospital
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain, having gone from bad to worse
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
/cont’d

955 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:51:32am

Lizard Prayer List, cont’d:
Family, friend, and life situations:
Safe travels for those traveling to lobby for Heart Defect Research 2/10/09
Lizards in need of particular career opportunities.
Vxbush: two Lizard friends dealing with big issues
Army Green since '92: post has lost three soldiers in Afghanistan; friends deploying there next week.
yma o hyd: ease the grief of friend who lost her husband of 59 years
Taqiyyotomist: strength in difficult times
FBV: that the unknowns find fulfillment
Vxbush: daughter’s financial issues
Yochanan: son in IDF
Bcgirl: sponsored child, Alia in Egypt
Wyatt Earp: Uncle Joe; prostate cancer returned
West Texas: brother’s decision
Victor_yugo: job
laZardo: strength of purpose
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: mom home from the hospital but may be regressing
A Kiwi Infidel: Natasha and her husband mourning the loss of the younger child.
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
neocon hippie: grieving for big black kitty, Ripple
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Asperger’s (mild autism)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
jcm: previous foster daughters going back with families; new 5-week-old foster daughter.
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: strength for kids and her dealing with EH.
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

956 calcajun  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:51:42am

re: #6 solomonpanting

The penis mightier than the sword.

They need some anal bum covers.

957 Truck Monkey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:51:45am

re: #951 opnion

They might lose their White House credentials If they start badgering & keep in mind the Media Press corps with maybe the exception of Major Garret have a crush on Obama.

It is hard for the pressers to ask any tough questions much less follow up when they are so busy fellating "The One".

958 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:53:19am

re: #949 3 wood

Sure I will. I probably will see him tonight.

In financial news folks, the whole focus this week will revolve around the "toxic assets". The market as a whole has gotten tired of waiting on the Obama Administration to deal with these in a way that makes sense. Until the "toxic assets" are dealt with, the market will assume that the banking system is going to be nationalized, which means that share holder equity will go to zero, so financial stocks will drop to near zero and stay there unless and until Geithner finds a clue.

What about the focus on Obama's "balanced budget" plan, which news of some of the plan has leaked out this weekend.

I read what info was available and it seems to me that first, he is trying to break successful private business by increasing taxes on them and second, ruin thing for those who are making larger salaries by increasing their tax burden.

So, you make it harder for business to do business, so they fail, so the government takes them over and too hell with the upper middle class, let's kick them down to the level of many others and make them dependent on the government.

In my opinion, since Obama is going right ahead with his promise to "distribute the wealth," there is no stopping the fall of our whole economy.

959 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:53:25am

re: #952 realwest

You're uh, support is absolutely underwhelming but appreciated! LOL!

I'm here for ya!

960 3 wood  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:53:46am

re: #943 Geepers

Hi Geepers. Well, hanging in there. Getting up to speed in the new job, trying to keep a close eye on the market melt down, doing some things in music, started working out hard (running and weight lifting) to get in better shape, like that.

We played a coffee house Friday night that went pretty well. One of the groups after us had apparently never practiced together before, they played their numbers reading sheet music, and the guitarist forgot his capo and had to run off stage and keep everybody waiting while he dug around in his case for the item. So it was not all that hard to look good by comparison.

How have you been?

961 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:53:56am

re: #333 Consanescerion

Referring to the quote heading the thread... Sir Clarke was never too concerned about his Sri Lankan houseboys

This is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. It's a baseless rumor promoted by religious fanatics who wanted to smear Arthur C. Clarke because of his powerful criticisms of religion.

I'm deleting your comments. I see what you're doing, and I'm not going to allow LGF to be used to spread this ugly smear. Post this again and I will remove your account.

962 Ben Hur  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:54:12am

G**d m*rning.

963 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:55:41am

re: #962 Ben Hur

G**d m*rning.

H*llo

964 Kenneth  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:55:46am

re: #887 Walter L. Newton

What the fuck did he think it was, a recipe for falafel?

John Kerry is a few chickpeas short of a falafel.

965 Ben Hur  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:56:09am

re: #963 pre-Boomer Marine brat

H*llo

You watch your tongue!

LOL!

966 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:56:24am

re: #964 Kenneth

re: #887 Walter L. Newton

John Kerry is a few chickpeas short of a falafel.

Trashing on his manhood again.

967 realwest  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:56:28am

BBIAM!

968 Dustyvet  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:57:31am

re: #961 Charles

This is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. It's a baseless rumor promoted by religious fanatics who wanted to smear Arthur C. Clarke because of his powerful criticisms of religion.

I'm deleting your comments. I see what you're doing, and I'm not going to allow LGF to be used to spread this ugly smear.

Outstanding, thanks Charles.

969 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:57:52am
... The latest noise from the administration is that the president has ordered a "thorough review of policy on Iran."

Did you think Obama had already reviewed a policy that he had vehemently condemned and opposed? Wrong: As in many other cases, he opposed Bush policy without bothering to study and understand it. ...


DOES PREZ HAVE ANY IRAN POLICY?

970 3 wood  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:58:13am

re: #958 Walter L. Newton

I don't think Obama has any intention of even trying to balance the budget. He is going to spend, spend, and then spend some more.

I don't believe a word of what he said about that.

I'm just guessing here, but I think he now realizes the damage that he did to the market by screaming "catastrophe" for 3 weeks, and is now trying to talk the market back. Too late.

With the way inflation will have to skyrocket (M2 is growing by 13%) there is no way they can cut the deficit, except by inflating the debt.

971 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:58:16am

re: #965 Ben Hur

You watch your tongue!

LOL!

H*w *re y*u tod*y?
* h*pe yo* ar* w*ll.

/*** ***** * ****** ** **** ******** * *** !

972 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:58:19am

re: #964 Kenneth

re: #887 Walter L. Newton


John Kerry is a few chickpeas short of a falafel.


The falafel is 'seared " into his memory.

973 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:58:37am

In fact, I'm not going to wait to block that account. That was a vile bunch of posts.

974 Ben Hur  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:58:37am

*!

975 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:59:22am
976 Bloodnok  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:59:58am

re: #969 J.D.

DOES PREZ HAVE ANY IRAN POLICY?

That is a terrible picture of Hillary.

977 3 wood  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:00:21am

re: #958 Walter L. Newton

Anything Obama does to "balance the budget" is really to further his Marxist views of spreading the misery and punish success.

978 itellu3times  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:00:25am

re: #949 3 wood

Sure I will. I probably will see him tonight.

In financial news folks, the whole focus this week will revolve around the "toxic assets". The market as a whole has gotten tired of waiting on the Obama Administration to deal with these in a way that makes sense. Until the "toxic assets" are dealt with, the market will assume that the banking system is going to be nationalized, which means that share holder equity will go to zero, so financial stocks will drop to near zero and stay there unless and until Geithner finds a clue.

In all fairness, Paulson and Bernanke under Bush, and now Geitner and Bernanke under Obama, have done enough that it probably should have reassured the markets and ameliorated the crisis. As perhaps it has, because we really have been walking the edge of the abyss since September, if not since last February when Bear Stearns first went down. It's much the same idiocy that caused the problem in the first place, that maintains the problem today.

OTOH, after all, the entire financial system is still toxic, and cleaning up a few trillion in mortage assets WILL NOT FIX IT. Leverage is still out there, CDS is worse then CDO, and consumer spending is still scared and not inflated by real estate bubble equity, and remains scared even when the financial titans are healthy.

The point being, I don't particularly blame Geithner nor Obama, they didn't break it, and they may not be in the position to fix it that the simpleminded libs and MSM may make out. One could argue that it's a better thing if they don't try, at least don't try too hard.

979 Ojoe  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:00:32am

re: #973 Charles

I wouldn't stay here if this weren't a clean well lighted place.

Thanks Charles.

980 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:00:59am

re: #970 3 wood

I don't think Obama has any intention of even trying to balance the budget. He is going to spend, spend, and then spend some more.

I don't believe a word of what he said about that.

I'm just guessing here, but I think he now realizes the damage that he did to the market by screaming "catastrophe" for 3 weeks, and is now trying to talk the market back. Too late.

With the way inflation will have to skyrocket (M2 is growing by 13%) there is no way they can cut the deficit, except by inflating the debt.

So, this is going to tank? Like I have said before, I know nothing about this except what my common sense tells me. Common sense tells me there is no way to stop what he is doing, going to do until HE stops it, or backs off his policies.

Since he has control of the house and congress, short of his own party turning against him, the ride is all downhill from here.

981 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:04am

/uh ... gee ... how do I use asterisks to turn ***** into an action?

982 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:19am

re: #961 Charles

This is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. It's a baseless rumor promoted by religious fanatics who wanted to smear Arthur C. Clarke because of his powerful criticisms of religion.

I'm deleting your comments. I see what you're doing, and I'm not going to allow LGF to be used to spread this ugly smear. Post this again and I will remove your account.

Thanks for clarifying this issue once and for all, (I hope).

983 n in wi  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:31am

re: #924 Kenneth

Blessed are the cheesemakers.


On behalf of all Wisconsinites,I thank you.
Could ya throw in a little somethink for the beer makers?

984 Truck Monkey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:42am

re: #976 Bloodnok

That is a terrible picture of Hillary.

You're telling me that you have seen a good one?

985 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:44am

re: #968 Dustyvet
Mr. Clarke was a true gentleman. He showed up at an embassy reception is Columbo, Sri Lanka where my ship had stopped for a port call. Not to mention the man could WRITE!

986 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:59am

re: #979 Ojoe

I wouldn't stay here if this weren't a clean well lighted place.

Thanks Charles.

Ditto, up-ding!

987 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:02:27am

BBIAB

988 calcajun  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:02:45am

re: #955 goddessoftheclassroom

Might I also suggest for blessing and protection over all of us during these times.

And--am I'm sure to catch a little fire for this one--for a blessing on the POTUS and his cabinet for their safety, protection, and that they be given wisdom and discernment in their decisions concerning their governance.

989 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:03:37am

re: #977 3 wood

Anything Obama does to "balance the budget" is really to further his Marxist views of spreading the misery and punish success.

Hey Mister, calling Obama a Marxist is hate speach!
People tried that same tactic & Karl Marx.

990 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:03:45am

re: #988 calcajun

No fire coming from me.

991 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:03:58am

Why don't you asshats cut Charles a break? It is Sunday morning and he's having to run around swatting moonbats. Sheesh.
Said mornin' all on the previous thread, so, mornin' all.

992 BlueCanuck  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:04:17am

re: #988 calcajun

Why should you catch fire for that desire? Just because we don't like or trust them doesn't mean we can't desire that they end up doing what needs to be done, and done well.

993 calcajun  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:04:39am

re: #961 Charles

Hmmm. I think you're being too subtle, Charles.

994 calcajun  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:05:06am

re: #990 callahan23

No fire coming from me.

Thanks.

995 Bloodnok  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:05:44am

re: #984 Truck Monkey

You're telling me that you have seen a good one?

Aw, that's not really fair. That's a shot intended to make her look "old". She looked much different during the campaign.

996 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:05:48am

re: #988 calcajun

And--am I'm sure to catch a little fire for this one--for a blessing on the POTUS and his cabinet for their safety, protection, and that they be given wisdom and discernment in their decisions concerning their governance.

As much as I disagree (to put it mildly) with The One, that is an entirely appropriate wish.

/I've got your back

997 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:12am

re: #988 calcajun

Might I also suggest for blessing and protection over all of us during these times.

And--am I'm sure to catch a little fire for this one--for a blessing on the POTUS and his cabinet for their safety, protection, and that they be given wisdom and discernment in their decisions concerning their governance.

I will revise "our country going forward" accordingly. Thanks for the suggestion.

LIZARDS: PLEASE let me know of any requests or updates. If you see another Lizard's post of a situation, please ask him or her if he or she would like to be added to the Prayer List, then let me know, My nic is blue now,

998 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:16am

re: #988 calcajun
I do not agree with their policies, but I wish no harm on them. Okay, I take part of that back, Biden getting pied would be funny. But it would scare the hell out of the Secret Service, so that's right out.

999 Sean  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:30am

re: #961 Charles

Amen.

1000 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:31am

Jindal is on Meet the Press right now. I like the guy, but I wish that he was more rational about his religious beliefs, or at least keep them to himself.

1001 callahan23  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:49am

re: #993 calcajun

Hmmm. I think you're being too subtle, Charles.


Here the subtlety finds an end:

re: #973 Charles

1002 Truck Monkey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:50am

re: #988 calcajun

I second your emotion. We are all in this thing together.

1003 J.D.  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:07:06am

re: #976 Bloodnok

That is a terrible picture of Hillary.

At least she's smiling.
Now this is a terrible picture.

1004 Miss Trixie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:07:09am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Having a lazy Sunday and we've had 2 more inches of gorebull warming overnight. Lawdy, I'm sooooooo tired of it I could just cry.

{realwest} Morning luv *smoochie-smooch* So glad to know your problem with your eye is resolved - what a relief! *hug*

1005 soccerdad  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:07:10am

re: #282 Slumbering Behemoth

No. why?

1006 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:07:33am

re: #989 opnion

Hey Mister, calling Obama a Marxist is hate speach!
People tried that same tactic & Karl Marx.

"on" Karl Marx.

1007 Truck Monkey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:08:20am

re: #995 Bloodnok

I was saying that more in jest than anything else. I long for the days of Clinton. I can't believe that I am saying that, but I mean it.

1008 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:08:26am

re: #1006 opnion
A pox on Karl Marx and all his works.

1009 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:08:57am

re: #997 goddessoftheclassroom

(OT re "blue nic")
BTW, I did see your last LOLcat last night, about "did you let the cat in?"
It was an absolute SCREAMER! One of the best I've ever seen.

1010 Bloodnok  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:09:25am

re: #1007 Truck Monkey

I was saying that more in jest than anything else. I long for the days of Clinton. I can't believe that I am saying that, but I mean it.

I love how she is being portrayed as the "voice of reason" in the administration. What planet am I on?

1011 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:09:38am

Jindal is kicking the shit out of David Gregory.

1012 calcajun  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:09:51am

re: #992 BlueCanuck

I don't think the folks who would rather see him fail, the "he's not my president" types have not been fully weeded out of here.

As for the phantom down-dingers--if you are going to down ding some one-have the courtesy of posting a comment as to why you disagree with someone. After all, how are we to learn if all you say, essentially, is that we are wrong, and nothing more.

1013 3 wood  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:10:23am

re: #980 Walter L. Newton

I guess one has to define what they mean by "tank". Do I think the stock market will go to zero? No. There is intrinsic value to many of these stocks.

But I think we will lose another 20% of value off the Dow and the S&P until the bear market stops, and then it will be a long climb back.

As I've said several times before, there are several obvious moves that can be made to short cut to a recovery and stop the bleeding. Drop "mark to market" and go back to discounted cash flows, which is what was used before mark to market was established about 15 years ago. Reinstall the "uptick" rule and enforce the ban against naked short selling, to stop the outrageously destructive short selling that is going on. Unwind the toxic assets and deal with the underlying mortgages themselves. Most of those loans will end up working out to be good deals.

The fact is these moves are becoming more and more clearly obvious to the trading public and not just the obscure discussion of technical economic nerds like me. And the reality that the Obama Administration does nothing is leaving the market to conclude that we have idiots in charge of the government now.

Not a good thing to conclude.

1014 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:10:31am

Not taking a gov't handout is rascist. J. Clyburn Donk South Carolina.

1015 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:10:37am

re: #1008 pingjockey

A pox on Karl Marx and all his works.

Please, let's not wash our dirty Lenin in public.

1016 aussiemagpie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:10:47am

Just a little cuteness to break into serious business for a bit

Meerkat babies at Taronga Zoo - just gorgeous!

1017 albusteve  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:10:58am

new niche in the job market...get your Masters in PlaxoProtection!

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

1018 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:11:27am

re: #1008 pingjockey

A pox on Karl Marx and all his works.

Marx knew all about labor & the proletariat? He never did an honest day of work in his life.

1019 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:11:57am

re: #1015 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I haven't had enough caffine to be punny!

1020 3 wood  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:12:30am

re: #989 opnion

I figure one of these days I will be labeled an "enemy of the State".

1021 calcajun  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:12:53am

re: #1011 opnion

Look for original thoughts--not GOP talking points.

Also, one of Jindal's bitches is that literally NADA of the stimulus money is going for Katrina relief.

1022 Sean  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:13:10am

Updings/downdings

1023 Miss Trixie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:13:14am

re: #908 topazpilot

I'm a huge fan of the Holy Grail and much of Life of Brian, especially the stoning scene "All I said was this halibut was good enough for Jehovah" or something along those lines. In skits nothing beats the Dead Parrot, paying for an argument, vikings eating spam "but I don't like spam!," and the spanish inquisition. I don't know why but the fish slapping dance always gives me a good chuckle. I have a movie poster framed of the crucifixion scene at the end of Life of Brian on my living room wall. It shows Graham Chapman with his jeans around his ankles and Eric Idle sporting a pair of converse.

*snort*

This is my absolute favorite MP skit. Kills me every time! :D

1024 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:13:32am

re: #1020 3 wood
Why? Because you work, pay taxes, think for yourself?!

1025 calcajun  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:14:03am

re: #1015 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Please, let's not wash our dirty Lenin in public.

Please, do not Trotsky out the puns this early. I cannot Beria the thought of them.

1026 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:14:13am

re: #1020 3 wood

I figure one of these days I will be labeled an "enemy of the State".

Stick to the man! Speak truth to power! Listen to your better angels!

1027 Perplexed  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:14:44am

re: #1012 calcajun

I don't think the folks who would rather see him fail, the "he's not my president" types have not been fully weeded out of here.

As for the phantom down-dingers--if you are going to down ding some one-have the courtesy of posting a comment as to why you disagree with someone. After all, how are we to learn if all you say, essentially, is that we are wrong, and nothing more.

Want to see Obabma fail? Only on his socialist agenda, rationing of health care, failed taxation policies, and his crappy "I won so STFU" attitude. That's pretty much his entire plan for the country.

1028 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:14:49am

re: #1025 calcajun
Grooooaaaaan!

1029 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:15:06am

re: #1019 pingjockey

I haven't had enough caffine to be punny!

Uh oh! My bad. Forgot that you're two hours behind.

1030 calcajun  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:15:27am

re: #1026 opnion

Stick to the man! Speak truth to power! Listen to your better angels!

I prefer Fredrick Douglass in his later years, "Agitate, agitate, agitate!"

1031 JacksonTn  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:15:59am

re: #1018 opnion

Marx knew all about labor & the proletariat? He never did an honest day of work in his life.

Remind you of anyone else .... you know like someone millions of slobbering idiots voted into the White House ...did he ever even deliver pizza while in school? ... did he ever have a part-time job? Besides community organizer and a short time at the law firm representing ACORN, et al what job has he ever had? ...

1032 3 wood  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:16:07am

re: #1024 pingjockey

Because I criticize Obama and his administration.

Rather than have a tingle go up my leg, I get a sick feeling in my gut every time I contemplate the effects of what Obama is doing to our economy.

I really can not think of much more you can do to wreck it than what he has done so far.

1033 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:16:10am

re: #1025 calcajun

Please, do not Trotsky out the puns this early. I cannot Beria the thought of them.

I thought it was time to quit Stalin around.

1034 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:16:38am

re: #1021 calcajun

Look for original thoughts--not GOP talking points.

Also, one of Jindal's bitches is that literally NADA of the stimulus money is going for Katrina relief.


He's covering the issue about Katrina now. I really have not heard talking points from Jindal this morning. He just is better prepared to discuss economic issues than Gregory is.

1035 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:16:53am

Hiya Crimestoppers!

1036 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:18:00am

re: #1029 pre-Boomer Marine brat
The 9 yr old has his b-day yesterday, so we had a pizza party and a sleepover by 4 of his buddies. Up till midnight, up at dawn! I'm not a kid anymore! They had a Wii bowling tournament. Madness, said it was like trying to referee a melee.

1037 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:18:07am

We better cool with the puns.
I think pingjockey is about to send a helicopter off the fantail.

1038 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:18:13am

re: #1035 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hiya Crimestoppers!

You're supposed to say, "Hi, FBV."

1039 Perplexed  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:18:38am

re: #1031 JacksonTn

Remind you of anyone else .... you know like someone millions of slobbering idiots voted into the White House ...did he ever even deliver pizza while in school? ... did he ever have a part-time job? Besides community organizer and a short time at the law firm representing ACORN, et al what job has he ever had? ...

You're going to be dragged from your house one night in the not so distant future an reeducated properly. You've made the ONE's enemy list.

///////////

really hope it doesn't come to pass.

1040 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:18:52am

re: #1030 calcajun

I prefer Fredrick Douglass in his later years, "Agitate, agitate, agitate!"


Thats good too. Hey, hey , ho ,ho Bush & Cheney have got to go!

1041 jaunte  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:19:10am

re: #1038 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"Hi FBV."
Good morning.

1042 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:19:28am

re: #1036 pingjockey

The 9 yr old has his b-day yesterday, so we had a pizza party and a sleepover by 4 of his buddies. Up till midnight, up at dawn! I'm not a kid anymore! They had a Wii bowling tournament. Madness, said it was like trying to referee a melee.

OMG!

No more puns for a while, gang!
"Dad" needs serious recuperation!

1043 Cognito  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:19:36am

Oh my.

Well, I'm late to the thread, but Charles, I might think twice before taking advice from Arthur C. Clarke on perversions....

He was something of an expert on the subject, though.

1044 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:19:39am

Not a single question from Gregory on Jindal's creationism, or his other extreme social con positions.

This is a precursor of what we're going to see. The MSM and the left would love it if Jindal is the GOP nominee in 2012, because he will lose. So they're going to ignore all the damaging issues until it's time to bring them up.

1045 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:19:46am

re: #1032 3 wood
His budget is gonna wreck a lot more. He wants to cut the deficeit by raising taxes on business and the 'rich' and gut the military.

1046 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:20:30am

re: #1037 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Naah. Adapt, persevere, overcome.

1047 JacksonTn  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:20:39am

re: #1039 Perplexed

You're going to be dragged from your house one night in the not so distant future an reeducated properly. You've made the ONE's enemy list.

///////////

really hope it doesn't come to pass.

Well, they better come armed with something more than the LITTLE BLUE OBAMA HANDBOOK ...cuz I ain't going quietly ...I am just praying he is a one term occupant of the White House ...

1048 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:20:55am

re: #1043 Cognito

Oh my.

Well, I'm late to the thread, but Charles, I might think twice before taking advice from Arthur C. Clarke on perversions....

He was something of an expert on the subject, though.

Excuse me, Cognito, but those stories are complete bullshit. And if you post them here I'll block your account. I'm not going to allow LGF to be used as a method to spread baseless smears.

1049 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:22:14am

re: #1043 Cognito
Charles beat me to it.

1050 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:22:15am

re: #1031 JacksonTn

Remind you of anyone else .... you know like someone millions of slobbering idiots voted into the White House ...did he ever even deliver pizza while in school? ... did he ever have a part-time job? Besides community organizer and a short time at the law firm representing ACORN, et al what job has he ever had? ...


Barry is a slacker. By his own admission he spent high school stoned, not working & pulling down bad grades. But hey, that gets you an academic scholarship to Occidental.

1051 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:22:36am
1052 Teacake!  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:22:50am
It is not funny.. ever.
My opinion

When scum of the earth stooges of death die in the pursuit of their murder game... get stuck in the tunnel because they all tried to fit inside it at the same time, sorry Linda, its high comedy.

1053 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:22:56am

re: #1046 pingjockey

Naah. Adapt, persevere, overcome.

Then we'll see if you're adapt enough at persevering.

1054 Miss Trixie  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:23:07am

re: #1016 aussiemagpie

Just a little cuteness to break into serious business for a bit

Meerkat babies at Taronga Zoo - just gorgeous!

Morning/afternoon/evening/witching hour toots!

That was just loverly - thanks!

1055 Perplexed  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:24:05am

re: #1045 pingjockey

His budget is gonna wreck a lot more. He wants to cut the deficeit by raising taxes on business and the 'rich' and gut the military.

The military still hasn't recovered from either Carter or Clinton. Clinton did much more to weaken our military by misapplying the 'peace dividend' to perpetual government handout programs. The Republicans could run just about anyone and wind if Obama does as poorly as president that I think he will.

1056 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:24:10am

re: #1053 pre-Boomer Marine brat
We all better be adept at adapting to persevere the next 4 years.

1057 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:25:09am

"God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist."

-Arthur C. Clarke

Wired Magazine, Ten word short story.

From Wiki. Pretty cool.

1058 pingjockey  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:25:15am

re: #1055 Perplexed
I can remember doing training pierside that should have been done at sea because we had no fuel!

1059 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:25:44am

re: #1013 3 wood

Thanks. (or is that tanks :)

1060 Perplexed  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:26:41am

re: #1058 pingjockey

I can remember doing training pierside that should have been done at sea because we had no fuel!

Was that demoralizing to you and your shipmates?

1061 opnion  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:26:42am

re: #1044 Charles

Not a single question from Gregory on Jindal's creationism, or his other extreme social con positions.

This is a precursor of what we're going to see. The MSM and the left would love it if Jindal is the GOP nominee in 2012, because he will lose. So they're going to ignore all the damaging issues until it's time to bring them up.

But the MSM will keep reminding us that Romney is a Mormon. Booga, booga!

1062 albusteve  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:27:12am

re: #1055 Perplexed

The military still hasn't recovered from either Carter or Clinton. Clinton did much more to weaken our military by misapplying the 'peace dividend' to perpetual government handout programs. The Republicans could run just about anyone and wind if Obama does as poorly as president that I think he will.

the question will be do the people want a socialistic govt?....and fundamentally do they understand what socialism is?...my answers are yes and no...the GOP is in a death spiral

1063 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:27:19am

re: #1061 opnion

Romney's a Mormon?

/

1064 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:28:24am

re: #1058 pingjockey

I can remember doing training pierside that should have been done at sea because we had no fuel!

We did the same thing in WestPac in the early/mid-Sixties -- "Abandon Ship" drills the moment we entered Hong Kong, Yoko, Sasebo, ....

1065 Perplexed  Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:28:29am

re: #1061 opnion

But the MSM will keep reminding us that Romney is a Mormon. Booga, booga!

When will the MSM remind us that Obama is