I would defend the liberty of consenting adult creationists to practice whatever intellectual perversions they like in the privacy of their own homes; but it is also necessary to protect the young and innocent.
— Arthur C. Clarke
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Dustyvet Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:22:29pm |
Turning on the lights and ready for a new thread.
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Shug Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:23:42pm |
Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked
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Honorary Yooper Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:23:52pm |
My name is Honorary Yooper, and I am an LGF addict.
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solomonpanting Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:23:56pm |
to practice whatever intellectual perversions they like
The penis mightier than the sword.
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Honorary Yooper Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:24:14pm |
re: #4 Shug
Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked
We've already seen two tonight.
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Buster Bunny Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:24:22pm |
re: #4 Shug
Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked
I'm sorry Shug .. I cant do that.
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Dustyvet Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:24:26pm |
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Kosh's Shadow Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:24:48pm |
re: #4 Shug
Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked
Sorry Dave, I can't do that.
Daisy, Da - i --s --y, D ---a ----i.....
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Idle Drifter Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:05pm |
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Honorary Yooper Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:10pm |
OK, what's the over/under on the YECs getting pissy about the Arthur Clarke quote?
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songbird Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:31pm |
A new Thread revealed,
But slumber overtakes me.
Goodnight kind Lizards.
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Shug Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:34pm |
re: #5 Honorary Yooper
My name is Honorary Yooper, and I am an LGF addict.
it is now 1:24 AM.
I initially planned to log off at 11 PM . then at midnight.
i
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Bobblehead Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:25:40pm |
Hoo boy. My finger was stuck on the new comments button.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:26:11pm |
Poking my head out of the shell to see if the bombs have stopped flying.
What is up with this place lately? I don't recall so many arguments and banhammerings even a month or two ago.
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Wendya Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:26:17pm |
re: #13 Honorary Yooper
OK, what's the over/under on the YECs getting pissy about the Arthur Clarke quote?
Hopefully, they'll keep their fingers off the keyboard because Charles is taking no prisoners tonight.
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:26:41pm |
Last thread was a massacre.
But I'm going to have to check back in tomorrow to see the bannings on this one - and I feel there will be many.
G'night, y'all.
Is there a Monitor Lizard for the overnight shift?
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Shug Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:27:44pm |
Written on a bathroom wall
A HAIKU
OMFG
ROFL
STFU Noob
NOT A HAIKU
WTF , mate?
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:28:19pm |
re: #13 Honorary Yooper
Earlier this morning one them was claiming Clarke was a creationist. When asked for proof he said he'd google it and never came back.
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Shug Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:04pm |
re: #22 Killgore Trout
Earlier this morning one them was claiming Clarke was a creationist. When asked for proof he said he'd google it and never came back.
he's still looking for the missing link
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:18pm |
re: #18 Athens Runaway
It happens sometimes.
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Buster Bunny Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:22pm |
re: #22 Killgore Trout
Earlier this morning one them was claiming Clarke was a creationist. When asked for proof he said he'd google it and never came back.
Proof and evidence leave these creationists out in the cold.
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Silvergirl Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:29:47pm |
re: #18 Athens Runaway
Poking my head out of the shell to see if the bombs have stopped flying.
What is up with this place lately? I don't recall so many arguments and banhammerings even a month or two ago.
Don't ya know? These are the *dah-dah-dah-doom* end times. Crawl under the table with me. :-)
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jaunte Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:30:04pm |
One more Clarke comment on creationists:
"I have encountered a few "creationists" and because they were usually nice, intelligent people, I have been unable to decide whether they were really mad, or only pretending to be mad. If I was a religious person, I would consider creationism nothing less than blasphemy. Do its adherents imagine that God is a cosmic hoaxer who has created that whole vast fossil record for the sole purpose of misleading mankind?
And, although I do not necessarily agree with paleontologist Teilhard de Chardin's advocacy of evolution as a proof of the glory of God, de Chardin's attitude is both logical and inspiring. A creator who laid the foundations for the entire future at the beginning of time is far more awesome than a clumsy tinkerer who constantly modifies his creations and throws away entire species in the process."
And now, goodnight all.
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Idle Drifter Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:30:12pm |
re: #19 Wendya
Hopefully, they'll keep their fingers off the keyboard because Charles is taking no prisoners tonight.
You'd think a lot of them would have noticed all the trophies in the den. Nodrog over there is getting a little dusty.
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Dustyvet Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:30:39pm |
re: #27 Silvergirl
Don't ya know? These are the *dah-dah-dah-doom* end times. Crawl under the table with me. :-)
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Silvergirl Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:30:40pm |
re: #20 Noam Sayin'
Last thread was a massacre.
But I'm going to have to check back in tomorrow to see the bannings on this one - and I feel there will be many.
G'night, y'all.
Is there a Monitor Lizard for the overnight shift?
I did see a picture of a guard unicorn.
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Dustyvet Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:32:05pm |
re: #34 Silvergirl
I did see a picture of a guard unicorn.
Guard unicorn has a face that would stop the heart of any troll...:)
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meeshlr Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:32:30pm |
I'm going to save that quote in case anyone tries to sneak creationism into our school. Not that it would have any effect on the YEC but it would give me a chuckle and a bit of encouragement.
Every time I think that I'm volunteering too much time at my daughters' school, something happens to remind me that I need to keep a close eye on what they are being taught.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:33:08pm |
I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:33:43pm |
re: #34 Silvergirl
I did see a picture of a guard unicorn.
Actually, that's for the brunch tomorrow.
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Buster Bunny Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:33:50pm |
re: #37 Rustler
I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?
Too many trolls to count. A true feast was had by all.
Leftovers are in the LGF room.
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Dark_Falcon Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:34:46pm |
I'm getting weary myself. It's after midnight here so I'm going to check out. Goodnight all!
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Bobblehead Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:14pm |
re: #37 Rustler
I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?
A good sized culling.
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Dustyvet Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:35pm |
re: #38 Noam Sayin'
Actually, that's for the brunch tomorrow.
You ain't eating my Guard Unicorn...he was a pressie from the guberment...:)
/S
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:39pm |
So does anyone else find it funny that the best program on Fox News nowadays isn't really a News Show but the Red Eye. So much for a Fair and Balanced Fox News. It's still the best of the lot but is rapidly throwing out all semblance of integrity.
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meeshlr Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:43pm |
re: #30 jaunte
I've often wondered about that. Why is it so easy for some people to believe that God created the fossil record as some kind of a hoax or test or something?
I encountered a preteen on Shelfari who spouted a lot of the creationist nonsense. I just felt sorry for her. She didn't even have a basic understanding of evolution; she just knew that it was completely wrong.
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MrPaulRevere Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:47pm |
re: #16 Sharmuta
Thanks for listening earlier Sharmuta, I was conflicted over what to do with that information. I despise backstabbers, and I try to keep track of them.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:35:49pm |
I have a theory on why Glenn Beck said civil war. It's a short theory. I could be wrong.
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Shug Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:36:14pm |
re: #46 Gus 802
I have a theory on why Glenn Beck said civil war. It's a short theory. I could be wrong.
let's have it
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:36:59pm |
re: #47 Shug
Well, I thought, perhaps, it might be racial. People will see it as "code."
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meeshlr Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:37:35pm |
re: #43 Rustler
I love Gutman!
His Gregalogue tonight about Tarantino being lazy by using a Nazi as the villain in his latest movie was brilliant. Greg suggested a terrorist would have been a better choice.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:37:54pm |
re: #8 Honorary Yooper
Who melted down tonight? I've been refereeing a 9 yr olds b-day melee.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:39:02pm |
re: #49 Gus 802
Kinda like a friend who said damn lawyers. Someone asked him why he said because I have to deal everyday with my neighbor who is a french canadian jewish tax lawyer. The he was accused of being an anti semite because he disliked his neighbor who went ahead and strived to achieve parity with a racial stereotype.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:39:03pm |
Was just a thought. Not like I'm sitting here gritting my teeth about it.
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Bobblehead Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:40:12pm |
re: #53 Gus 802
Was just a thought. Not like I'm sitting here gritting my teeth about it.
Ok, I'll jump in. What's your theory?
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Idle Drifter Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:40:14pm |
re: #51 pingjockey
Who melted down tonight? I've been refereeing a 9 yr olds b-day melee.
Globalcluster went down hard. I missed what was said though.
A couple new guys went down along with a 5 year sleeper Moby.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:40:19pm |
re: #52 Rustler
Kinda like a friend who said damn lawyers. Someone asked him why he said because I have to deal everyday with my neighbor who is a french canadian jewish tax lawyer. The he was accused of being an anti semite because he disliked his neighbor who went ahead and strived to achieve parity with a racial stereotype.
Ah, right. See, can't say one way or the other. I kind of said something about attorneys the other night. Was just a fleeting comment on my part.
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Athens Runaway Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:40:45pm |
re: #27 Silvergirl
Don't ya know? These are the *dah-dah-dah-doom* end times. Crawl under the table with me. :-)
Gladly, ma'am. I survive this on a yearly basis, the End of the World is a walk in the park.
re: #24 Killgore Trout
It happens sometimes.
I suppose... I mean, I've gone through bits of politically-related gloom the last few weeks, but I haven't melted down. I just find it hard to believe that so many people on the right are melting down, but when I see meltdowns en masse like tonight or the Coulter kerfuffle or the Hannity hufflebaloo... it makes me wonder if there's something massively wrong here.
Remember: winners keep their heads when others are losing theirs.
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Silvergirl Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:41:14pm |
re: #55 Idle Drifter
Globalcluster went down hard. I missed what was said though.
A couple new guys went down along with a 5 year sleeper Moby.
I lost track. Which one was that?
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:41:58pm |
re: #54 Bobblehead
Ok, I'll jump in. What's your theory?
I was just wondering why he would say civil war. If anything the appropriate term would be revolution. Big mistake on his part to say civil war since it implies us fighting each other. I don't think that's what the outcome would be all about.
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:43:27pm |
re: #45 MrPaulRevere
Thanks for listening earlier Sharmuta, I was conflicted over what to do with that information. I despise backstabbers, and I try to keep track of them.
No problem!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:45:50pm |
re: #37 Rustler
I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?
People lost it. Big-time.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:46:09pm |
Anyway, I was never one for alarmism regardless of the side.
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:46:09pm |
re: #60 Gus 802
Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.
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Idle Drifter Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:46:24pm |
re: #59 Silvergirl
I lost track. Which one was that?
I missed his name, he hurled an insult at Charles and was gone. I think he was registered for 5 years with a few comments. Sorry I'm a bit tired and the beer ain't helping so I could be mistaken and misread a comment. There were so many getting wacked over in the last thread I was like Whack a Mole. All of it over Glen Beck. Sheesh.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:46:26pm |
Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:47:05pm |
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:47:45pm |
re: #64 rawmuse
Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.
Yep. And the Feds will win. Last time I checked those guys have a lot guns, choppers, A-10s, F-18s, and such.
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Idle Drifter Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:47:47pm |
re: #65 Idle Drifter
it was like Whack a Mole. PIMF
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Bobblehead Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:47:55pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:48:21pm |
re: #64 rawmuse
Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.
Clearly, Sir, you have not met my father. Although I'm not sure he would meet your definition of a lefty.
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freetoken Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:48:24pm |
re: #37 Rustler
I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?
The Red Cross has put out a call for blood donation, for those with the rare Type L.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:48:36pm |
re: #37 Rustler
I take it last thread was a blood bath with much feasting on gamey buttocks?
Some folks just can't take it when they see someone chip the gilding off their golden idol.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:48:42pm |
re: #66 Charles
Pardon my ignorance, is Pam Geller the Atlas Shrugged blog? Been there exactly once.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:49:02pm |
re: #64 rawmuse
Not gonna be a civil war. Most of the Lefties hate guns, they don't allow them in their houses, don't teach their kids about them, etc. OR, if there is a civil war, it will be short.
Now that the screaming has died down, though, what exactly was Beck predicting?
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:49:17pm |
re: #66 Charles
Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.
You know, the first time I heard her open her mouth... Oh nevermind. Let's just say it reminded me of certain event in my families past.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:49:52pm |
re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist
DOOM! Doom on you, me, everybody.
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:49:59pm |
re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist
Clearly, Sir, you have not met my father. Although I'm not sure he would meet your definition of a lefty.
Well, the AK-47 WAS invented by a Lefty, come to think of it.
I was thinking of the "All We Are Saying Is Give Peace A Chance" types.
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pink freud Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:50:04pm |
re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist
Now that the screaming has died down, though, what exactly was Beck predicting?
The sky is falling.
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Boxy_brown Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:50:13pm |
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Idle Drifter Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:50:39pm |
re: #76 Gus 802
You know, the first time I heard her open her mouth... Oh nevermind. Let's just say it reminded me of certain event in my families past.
I don't know who she is but it's starting not to sound good.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:50:41pm |
re: #68 Gus 802
Yep. And the Feds will win. Last time I checked those guys have a lot guns, choppers, A-10s, F-18s, and such.
You assume they would be willing to use them on their fellow Americans. Back in the 90's only about 25% of the military was willing to do so. There is no telling if the remaining 75% would try to stop them from doing so.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:50:51pm |
Actually, I was talking with an Obama voter last week. For 3.5 hours. He's more of a libertarian and a free thinker. Sceptic. Anyway, he talked up the stock up on food and arms aspect. Former USMC.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:51:06pm |
Some of the people I've defended against charges of being xenophobic did NOT deserve it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:51:17pm |
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Syrah Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:51:21pm |
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:51:47pm |
re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist
Now that the screaming has died down, though, what exactly was Beck predicting?
Civil war.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:03pm |
re: #4 Shug
Let's hope no more old time Lizards pull a HAL9000 and get whacked
Who? I just got here.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:10pm |
re: #82 Hard Right
You assume they would be willing to use them on their fellow Americans. Back in the 90's only about 25% of the military was willing to do so. There is no telling if the remaining 75% would try to stop them from doing so.
I think if they see it as a matter of their own survival, they will shoot back. Perhaps not at first but eventually it would be a bloodbath and the government would win. Regardless.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:24pm |
Anyway, I was going to work on my family emergency plan this weekend, so I suppose the doom is another good reason. You know, that and the Impending Large Earthquake.
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Idle Drifter Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:49pm |
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Clemente Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:59pm |
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:52:59pm |
re: #88 Walter L. Newton
That is a 5 buck tardy fee with a MMGW tax.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:53:06pm |
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Boxy_brown Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:54:25pm |
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:54:29pm |
re: #89 Gus 802
I think if they see it as a matter of their own survival, they will shoot back. Perhaps not at first but eventually it would be a bloodbath and the government would win. Regardless.
If ordered to attack other Americans, who knows whether or not they would.
If they are attacked I'm sure they would defend themselves and win. All I know is that if I saw an M1 Abrams parked in the street I would definitely leave it alone.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:54:40pm |
re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist
I kind of got that, but between whom and whom?
That was never extrapolated from the conversation. It was just willy nilly all over the place. You know, FoxNews, Glenn Beck.
Had a lot of sound effects and still images from foreign countries. A few from Katrina.
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:54:49pm |
re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist
I kind of got that, but between whom and whom?
Had not figured that out yet. But, really, does it matter?
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pink freud Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:55:23pm |
re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist
Class warfare, rich hiding in gated communities, gangs, military against civilians, collapse of civilization.
Oh, and 8000/ounce gold.
What did I forget?
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:55:23pm |
re: #97 Hard Right
If ordered to attack other Americans, who knows whether or not they would.
If they are attacked I'm sure they would defend themselves and win. All I know is that if I saw an M1 Abrams parked in the street I would definitely leave it alone.
Same here. Or the ripping sound of a vulcan cannon? No thanks.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:02pm |
re: #101 Gus 802
Same here. Or the ripping sound of a vulcan cannon? No thanks.
Oooooo. I would NOT want to be on the receiving end of that.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:20pm |
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Silvergirl Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:26pm |
re: #80 Boxy_brown
"Yes it's safe, it's very safe, so safe you wouldn't believe it."
One of my top ten favorite films! Hoffman and Olivier could not have been better!
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Boxy_brown Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:37pm |
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pink freud Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:41pm |
re: #100 pink freud
Oh yes, I left out that wild-eyed teetering-on-the-brink look Beck seems to have lately.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:56:44pm |
re: #103 Hard Right
Oooooo. I would NOT want to be on the receiving end of that.
Yep, and then wind up on LiveLeak.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:57:06pm |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
Man made global warming! Manbearpig tax! Did you have a show tonight?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:57:23pm |
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Bobblehead Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:57:32pm |
re: #89 Gus 802
I think if they see it as a matter of their own survival, they will shoot back. Perhaps not at first but eventually it would be a bloodbath and the government would win. Regardless.
I do not wish to see our military men and women put in a position where they have to make that choice. That would be a disaster in itself.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:57:59pm |
Who the hell is this Geller woman? Yuri Gellers love child?
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:58:14pm |
re: #102 rawmuse
OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?
Go for it. Everyone should at least once. It's like "Cowfee Tawlk" meets... I don't know... something.
///
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Syrah Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:58:14pm |
re: #102 rawmuse
OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?
I think you should "shrug" that one off
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:58:46pm |
re: #111 Walter L. Newton
Aha. I knew that name from somewhere. Visited that place exactly once.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:58:54pm |
re: #112 Bobblehead
I do not wish to see our military men and women put in a position where they have to make that choice. That would be a disaster in itself.
It would. We'll be OK. Ain't gonna happen. The left was babbling this crap after 911.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:58:59pm |
re: #109 Gus 802
Yep, and then wind up on LiveLeak.
No thanks.
I saw where an Apache hit a group of guys with it's 30mm gun. Messy.
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:59:13pm |
Who... is pamela geller?! Where have you guys been? There was a thread on her last night for crying out loud! I love ya, but DAMN! Pay attention!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:59:20pm |
re: #102 rawmuse
OK, should I find out who Pamela Geller is?
A very intense woman with a blog named after an Ayn Rand novel, who wants to have Charles flogged.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 10:59:37pm |
re: #118 Hard Right
No thanks.
I saw where an Apache hit a group of guys with it's 30mm gun. Messy.
Yep, human chum.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:00:17pm |
re: #117 Gus 802
It would. We'll be OK. Ain't gonna happen. The left was babbling this crap after 911.
There might be some assassinations, but I seriously doubt civil war is coming.
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Boxy_brown Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:00:41pm |
re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist
"who wants to have Charles flogged."
"Flogged"... like in the British navy in the 1800s. Who thinks like that?
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:00:51pm |
re: #119 Sharmuta
Sorry, I've been busy, making a living, for a change. I will crack the thread.
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:01:39pm |
re: #122 pingjockey
Some of us ain't up late dear!
It wasn't put up late at all. Doesn't anybody scroll down "below the fold"? There are days worth of threads on the front page at any given time.
Not to sound catty, but come on!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:01:39pm |
re: #117 Gus 802
It would. We'll be OK. Ain't gonna happen. The left was babbling this crap after 911.
Americans have a bad habit of defying predictions and behaving fairly well under pressure.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:01:56pm |
re: #123 Hard Right
There might be some assassinations, but I seriously doubt civil war is coming.
I doubt even that. There is that danger, considering. We have to remember to that this is a global challenge for the economy.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:02:09pm |
re: #110 pingjockey
Man made global warming! Manbearpig tax! Did you have a show tonight?
No. This is crossover week, last show ended last weekend, new show opens next week. The Visitor Sigmund Freud meets... god?
Vienna, 1938. The Nazis have invaded Austria and are persecuting the Jews. On this April evening, the Gestapo arrest his daughter Anna and take her for questioning. Freud remains alone and desperate when, suddenly, a stranger enters through the window. The visitor, a frivolous and cynical dandy in a tuxedo & top hat, has some incredible things to say. Who is he? A mad man? A magician? Is this merely a dream? Or is he really as he claims, God in person?
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freetoken Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:03:14pm |
re: #84 Charles
From reading today's article, it appears to me that Steyn has fallen into a classic (and very common on these type of blogs and forums) logic trap - the false dilemma:
So what's the greater sin? That Miss Shaidle fails to draw a clear bright line between a generally observable phenomenon and a statistically 100% universal phenomenon? Or that even raising the generally observable phenomenon is now beyond the pale?
The problem here is.... why must we consider a "greater", or lesser, sin worth rejecting but some other on the scale (of sins) not? One can readily reject both.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:03:58pm |
re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist
Americans have a bad habit of defying predictions and behaving fairly well under pressure.
That they do. Especially Americans and the rest of the world. A survival instinct takes over and it does not include going out and shooting people or starting a war with your neighbor.
The downfall of civilization has been way overrated for almost 2000 years.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:04:25pm |
re: #130 Walter L. Newton
That sounds cool! My high school senior is getting ready for Charlie and the Chocolate factory.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:05:18pm |
re: #133 pingjockey
That sounds cool! My high school senior is getting ready for Charlie and the Chocolate factory.
Hmmmmm... chocolate!
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:05:49pm |
re: #128 Gus 802
I doubt even that. There is that danger, considering. We have to remember to that this is a global challenge for the economy.
Hopefully it won't happen. It certainly wouldn't help and would hurt those of us wanting to stop obama and the left.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:06:06pm |
re: #126 Sharmuta
Guilty as charged. I will check the days threads, but if the last comment is like an hour old I don't go read. My fault.
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:06:21pm |
re: #84 Charles
Some of the people I've defended against charges of being xenophobic did NOT deserve it.
I don't know what to say except I'm sorry. This is very disappointing.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:03pm |
re: #135 Walter L. Newton
I am immune for a while now. Got the better half some of those Cadbury creme eggs! :)
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:13pm |
Oh, dear. Public flogging of the head Lizard. Very bad.
OK, I got it.
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Idle Drifter Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:31pm |
re: #101 Gus 802
Same here. Or the ripping sound of a vulcan cannon? No thanks.
I've read and agree with some of John Ringo's Last Centurion. If there was a big catastrophe to beset the United States any local militia that would spring up would be out of necessity for law and order to help bring society back to normal. They would work with local law enforcement, National Guard Units and US military units considering their makeup would be and should be mainly former/retired military and law enforcement. Civil War would do nothing to help this country and ranks up there with zombie holocaust fantasies.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:39pm |
re: #136 Hard Right
Hopefully it won't happen. It certainly wouldn't help and would hurt those of us wanting to stop obama and the left.
Exactly, that would be massive PR loss dare I say. Now that's were we could face a logistical problem. If we allow this kind of talk people will think we're guilty by association. Fact I think.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:50pm |
re: #139 pingjockey
I am immune for a while now. Got the better half some of those Cadbury creme eggs! :)
Oooh, I guess those are in stores now.
One of the best things about living in England, you can get 'em year round.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:07:59pm |
re: #89 Gus 802 Problem is the military isn't there to protect the government the military was established to protect the constitution and that is what they swear to do. Not to blindly obey Obama but to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and Domestic"
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:08:32pm |
OT, there is a puppy sprawled all over my side of the bed!
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Sloppy Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:09:01pm |
I decided some time ago that Glenn Beck is a silly person and quit watching him. There seems to be a sort of Gresham's Law at work in TV: Lose a Brit Hume and pick up a Glenn Beck. The trend consistently is down.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:09:23pm |
re: #141 Idle Drifter
I've read and agree with some of John Ringo's Last Centurion. If there was a big catastrophe to beset the United States any local militia that would spring up would be out of necessity for law and order to help bring society back to normal. They would work with local law enforcement, National Guard Units and US military units considering their makeup would be and should be mainly former/retired military and law enforcement. Civil War would do nothing to help this country and ranks up there with zombie holocaust fantasies.
Yes, or as I sometimes tell socialists, you'll just replace one set of lunatics with a far worse set of lunatics. In the end I'm pretty sure I'd wind up fighting with the Feds. Which is rather ironic.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:09:25pm |
re: #145 pingjockey
OT, there is a puppy sprawled all over my side of the bed!
I can actually feel my blood pressure going down after that last thread.
What kind of puppy?
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:09:37pm |
re: #140 rawmuse
Oh, dear. Public flogging of the head Lizard. Very bad.
OK, I got it.
That's not all of it, but it's enough.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:10:12pm |
re: #143 SanFranciscoZionist
That should be against the law! Those things will make you sick, they are terribly addicting.
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Neutral President Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:10:13pm |
re: #66 Charles
Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.
Oh ffs... we are losing every voice of reason to insanity.
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least Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:10:30pm |
re: #123 Hard Right
There might be some assassinations, but I seriously doubt civil war is coming.
Waaaaaaaaaay back before JFK's Dallas trip, the thought of an assassination was totally beyond our national imagination.
Now, it seems to be almost expected.
We've progressed, yah sure, yew betcha.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:10:36pm |
re: #144 Rustler
Problem is the military isn't there to protect the government the military was established to protect the constitution and that is what they swear to do. Not to blindly obey Obama but to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and Domestic"
Right, but that's why we have the SCOTUS, congress, lower courts, etc. Obama is president but he's not King.
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sngnsgt Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:10:42pm |
Anyone in Palm Beach?
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:11:07pm |
re: #148 SanFranciscoZionist
Heinz 57. Sharpei, chocolate lab, and pit bull(maybe).
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:11:32pm |
re: #142 Gus 802
Exactly, that would be massive PR loss dare I say. Now that's were we could face a logistical problem. If we allow this kind of talk people will think we're guilty by association. Fact I think.
I'd say fact based on historical precedent. The black helicopter crowd hurt us over time. People associated us with them because they were against Clinton and pro-gun.
I knew they would come back around if obama won. It took them longer than I expected to surface tho.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:12:01pm |
re: #138 Sharmuta
I don't know what to say except I'm sorry. This is very disappointing.
Disappointing indeed. I imagine it must feel a bit like finding out a long time friend or close relative is a bigot when you start dating a gal who belongs to a racial/religious group they disdain.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:12:48pm |
re: #150 pingjockey
That should be against the law! Those things will make you sick, they are terribly addicting.
The English have a serious sugar tolerance. I have never seen another group of people eat so much chocolate. They also drink whiskey at lunch. I mean, people who aren't alcoholics do this. It's disconcerting.
OTOH, after you've had unlimited access for a while, I find that they get less alluring. By the end of my time living in London I was pretty blase about the eggs, except when friends would come from California, and freak out, and then I would freak out all over again with.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:13:12pm |
re: #156 Hard Right
I'd say fact based on historical precedent. The black helicopter crowd hurt us over time. People associated us with them because they were against Clinton and pro-gun.
I knew they would come back around if obama won. It took them longer than I expected to surface tho.
Deja vu with the Ruby Ridge angle "all over again." I know. We have to be level headed and pragmatic.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:13:33pm |
re: #155 pingjockey
Heinz 57. Sharpei, chocolate lab, and pit bull(maybe).
Oh, cute. So a wrinkly face, or not?
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funky chicken Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:14:36pm |
re: #154 sngnsgt
having an epidemic of drunk drivers or something?
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:15:09pm |
re: #159 SanFranciscoZionist
My wife is from Wales and if she's very good or I'm very bad I go to this Australian store in Leavenworth, Wa. and get her real English treats, makes her day it does.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:15:12pm |
re: #160 Gus 802
Deja vu with the Ruby Ridge angle "all over again." I know. We have to be level headed and pragmatic.
And make clear the ones talking civil war aren't with us. Sadly the left will use it to their advantage--again.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:15:42pm |
re: #153 Gus 802 I mentioned that because you talk about the military supporting Obama in this Fictional civil war of Beck's but if it occurs it will occur based on Obama raping the constitution and I doubt you will see most soldiers supporting the Govt in that endeavour.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:15:44pm |
re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist
Just around his mouth and a little on the neck.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:16:06pm |
re: #156 Hard Right
I'd say fact based on historical precedent. The black helicopter crowd hurt us over time. People associated us with them because they were against Clinton and pro-gun.
I knew they would come back around if obama won. It took them longer than I expected to surface tho.
The true blue, hard core black helicopter crowd are without political affiliation. That Jones character sees conspiracies no matter what party holds office.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:16:50pm |
re: #164 Hard Right
And make clear the ones talking civil war aren't with us. Sadly the left will use it to their advantage--again.
My guess is that Obama won't mess with the 2nd Amendment. We'll have to wait and see.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:16:57pm |
re: #163 pingjockey
My wife is from Wales and if she's very good or I'm very bad I go to this Australian store in Leavenworth, Wa. and get her real English treats, makes her day it does.
Flakes, Turkish Delight bars, anything by Cadbury, really...Jaffa cakes.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:17:46pm |
re: #166 pingjockey
Just around his mouth and a little on the neck.
Ohhhhh. I love dogs. Just discovered ipuppycan.com.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:17:58pm |
re: #165 Rustler
I mentioned that because you talk about the military supporting Obama in this Fictional civil war of Beck's but if it occurs it will occur based on Obama raping the constitution and I doubt you will see most soldiers supporting the Govt in that endeavour.
Not supporting Obama. But supporting law and order and their own safety. It would become a survival instinct.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:18:09pm |
re: #165 Rustler
The military does not support the gov't. It supports and defends the Constituition. If, God forbid, the sitting gov't tried to subborn the Constituition it would be the militaries duty to throw them out.
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:18:15pm |
re: #167 Slumbering Behemoth
I consider Jones to be a complete menace. He personally inspired one guy to do harm to some pals of mine. The perp now sits in prison. Jones, however, is unrepentant.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:18:33pm |
re: #167 Slumbering Behemoth
The true blue, hard core black helicopter crowd are without political affiliation. That Jones character sees conspiracies no matter what party holds office.
Yup. They are loony. Back when I was teen working retail, I had one of them go of on a rant about how money was worthless because it wasn't backed by gold, "fraudbacks" and the tri-lateral commission and Bergermeisters. I just wanted to ring the guy up. Jeez.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:18:57pm |
re: #169 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeppers. That is the stuff.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:19:04pm |
re: #168 Gus 802 He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo this will waen the population off guns and make it easier for him to take them away. The there is the whole you have to turn in all old ammo and buy new ammo with tracing codes in it nonsense he's trying to push. Or do you assume hes gonna try to take the guns out of a well armed and equiped populace.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:19:13pm |
re: #170 SanFranciscoZionist
Ohhhhh. I love dogs. Just discovered ipuppycan.com.
ipuppyCAM.com. Sorry.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:20:36pm |
re: #172 pingjockey
That exactly what I said the post before that.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:20:39pm |
re: #176 Rustler
He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo ...
When did that start?
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:20:44pm |
re: #176 Rustler
He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo this will waen the population off guns and make it easier for him to take them away. The there is the whole you have to turn in all old ammo and buy new ammo with tracing codes in it nonsense he's trying to push. Or do you assume hes gonna try to take the guns out of a well armed and equiped populace.
OK, well, I've always said they'd go after ammo. Don't look at me I'm just a plebe. The Nanny State will expand with these guys.
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calcajun Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:21:34pm |
Answer:
My God, it's full of stars.
Question: What happens when lasik goes wrong?
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:22:15pm |
re: #178 Rustler
Well GMTA. I missed that. Took that oath 6 times. I just about had a fit when Obama and Roberts screwed up the oath for President.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:22:18pm |
re: #179 Walter L. Newton
Actually hasn't passed yet was passed down to congress and failed I think.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:22:25pm |
re: #168 Gus 802
My guess is that Obama won't mess with the 2nd Amendment. We'll have to wait and see.
If they are smart he won't until he gets a second term. I'm hoping he won't at all.
He could still do some things to hurt gun owners and keep it under the radar.
He could write an executive order banning imported part kits or ammo for example. Most people wouldn't hear about it or care.
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calcajun Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:22:41pm |
re: #179 Walter L. Newton
When did that start?
Basically our sales tax on everything went to 8% as of today. Ammo is part of it. But, that's just the CA budget.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:22:48pm |
If you want to get an idea to where the liberals want to take America look at the UK, Australia, Oregon, California.
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:23:14pm |
Posted this about the last thread.
OK -- when Charles starts in on Glenn Beck it is becoming too much. The Lizard army, if you agree with this, is about to be laid useless. Glenn is a person with high morals, high intellectual capability and the show he presented, replicated at hot air is simply a 'scenario' show. a what if? Recall, he's a talk show host, charged with getting ratings!
If you have not watched all three of the shows over at hot air (click on the link)...do not respond.
Glenn is simply trying to show us all how this may play out. He is on our side.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:23:39pm |
re: #176 Rustler
He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo this will waen the population off guns and make it easier for him to take them away. The there is the whole you have to turn in all old ammo and buy new ammo with tracing codes in it nonsense he's trying to push. Or do you assume hes gonna try to take the guns out of a well armed and equiped populace.
I haven't herad him push that. I have heard the owners of that company making the coded ammo you speak of push it.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:23:43pm |
re: #173 rawmuse
Geez, sorry to hear that. Hope your friends made out ok. And I agree, that guy is a menace.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:24:10pm |
re: #182 Bobblehead
That's fucking out of control intrusion. Sheesh what a mess. I'm surprised the island hasn't half sunk because Winston is spinning so fast.
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:24:34pm |
re: #190 Slumbering Behemoth
The pals are fine, but they were lucky.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:24:49pm |
Blood tests would mean they're harvesting DNA samples. I think.
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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:25:08pm |
re: #187 Gus 802
If you want to get an idea to where the liberals want to take America look at the UK, Australia, Oregon, California Cuba.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:25:14pm |
re: #184 Rustler
Actually hasn't passed yet was passed down to congress and failed I think.
Then I'm confused. How could you make the statement "He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo..."
I can't even find anything that indicated that any bill went to congress?
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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:25:57pm |
re: #193 Gus 802
Maybe I'm just paranoid (probably) but I wondered about that, too.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:26:12pm |
re: #194 Killer Tomato
If you want to get an idea to where the liberals want to take America look at
the UK, Australia, Oregon, CaliforniaCuba.
Ack! Really, probably so. Sean Pean and his pals. Might come down to it. I'm moving to the Philippines.
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:26:43pm |
re: #165 Rustler
I doubt you will see most soldiers supporting the Govt in that endeavour.
Soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines will obey the commander in chief! we are not a third world country. Don't pretend to understand what the military might do, unless you were one of us.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:26:48pm |
re: #189 Hard Right
"A law that has just passed in California allows micro-tracing of bullets that have been discharged in a crime so that they can immediately be traced," said Obama. "This is something that California has passed over the strong objections of the NRA…That's the kind of common sense gun law that gun owners as well as victims of gun violence can get behind."
from here.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:16pm |
re: #195 Walter L. Newton
Should have adding trying to tax the hell not tax.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:32pm |
re: #195 Walter L. Newton
Then I'm confused. How could you make the statement "He's already starting to mess with the 2nd amendment by taxing the hell out of ammo..."
I can't even find anything that indicated that any bill went to congress?
I hadn't heard of that proposal even making it to Congress. Last I heard it was only on the state level and pushed by the company that makes the "coded" ammo. BTW, the company has multiple members that are known gun grabbers.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:34pm |
re: #186 calcajun
Basically our sales tax on everything went to 8% as of today. Ammo is part of it. But, that's just the CA budget.
Ok, but that is not a separate sales tax on ammo. That's not a bill passed to congress by the Obama administration. Nothing like this has happened yet.
And it makes no sense trying to imply that. It's not happened.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:36pm |
re: #196 Killer Tomato
Maybe I'm just paranoid (probably) but I wondered about that, too.
Sounds like it. It's like leaving an index finger print when you cash a check directly. It winds up straight with the Feds.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:52pm |
re: #198 soccerdad
I was one and it is the oath you swear to defend the Constitution not the nutjob running the Country.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:27:59pm |
re: #174 Hard Right
An elderly relative of mine has been going on about that whole gold backed dollar thing lately. I have no idea where she is getting this, as far as I know she gets all her news from the 700 Club. Is Robertson and Co. digging deeper into the troofer dirt?
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:28:04pm |
re: #198 soccerdad
Only if the CinC is not abrogating his duty to the Constituition!
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funky chicken Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:28:04pm |
well, good night everybody.
oh, free science nerd tip, just in case anybody was fooled by those stupid acai berry/"total colon cleanse" web ads for weight loss....ex-lax will do the same thing for less money.
not that I recommend it or anything, but ex-lax is also manufactured by a real pharmaceutical company, so you will actually know what you are putting into your body.
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:28:51pm |
re: #204 Rustler
I was one and it is the oath you swear to defend the Constitution not the nutjob running the Country.
A lot of people have taken that oath, and it does NOT expire, except when you do.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:28:55pm |
re: #201 Hard Right
I hadn't heard of that proposal even making it to Congress. Last I heard it was only on the state level and pushed by the company that makes the "coded" ammo. BTW, the company has multiple members that are known gun grabbers.
Then let's not be talking about ammo tax, bills in congress etc, when it hasn't happened.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:29:05pm |
re: #198 soccerdad
I think you need to do some research on what the Military is sworn to do before you try making a statement calling me out like that when you claim to be in hte military yourself.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:29:53pm |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:31:46pm |
re: #188 soccerdad
OK -- when Charles starts in on Glenn Beck it is becoming too much. The Lizard army, if you agree with this, is about to be laid useless. Glenn is a person with high morals, high intellectual capability and the show he presented, replicated at hot air is simply a 'scenario' show. a what if? Recall, he's a talk show host, charged with getting ratings!
If you have not watched all three of the shows over at hot air (click on the link)...do not respond.
Glenn is simply trying to show us all how this may play out. He is on our side.
Glen has jumped the shark.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:32:08pm |
re: #202 Walter L. Newton He had his proposal written up in early January to supposedly push into Congress when he took office never saw it pass assume that if he did the work to write it up he submitted it once he took office, if it wasn't passed down I apoligize maybe he realized something like that day 1 would actually hurt him badly.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:32:13pm |
re: #210 Walter L. Newton
Then let's not be talking about ammo tax, bills in congress etc, when it hasn't happened.
Agreed.
CA going with it is concerning to me since several other states seem to follow their lead everytime they jump off the cliff.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:32:30pm |
"All enemies, foriegn and domestic". That means the military has the DUTY to replace the gov't if said gov't is shredding the constituition.
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:32:44pm |
re: #204 Rustler
I was one and it is the oath you swear to defend the Constitution not the nutjob running the Country.
Well good on ya, and thanks for your service.
So where is the mechanism for our guys to decide who is a nutjob, etc.? No...as much as I despise BHO, (would not piss on him in a gutter to put him out if he was on fire) I think your rhetoric is harmful. do not begin to talk about rebellion within our military. Not gonna happen.
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calcajun Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:33:26pm |
re: #202 Walter L. Newton
I know--that's why I qualified the statement. No one I know of has read through the Stimulus bill--Law, now-- to see what taxes are in there. There is no redacted version of which I know. I do anticipate a tax on ammo, much in the same vein as a "sin" tax on cigarettes and alcohol--which I'm sure will rise and will affect me a lot more than a tax on ammo. I tend to go through more Scotch than bullets.
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:33:30pm |
re: #97 Hard Right
If ordered to attack other Americans, who knows whether or not they would.
If they are attacked I'm sure they would defend themselves and win. All I know is that if I saw an M1 Abrams parked in the street I would definitely leave it alone.
actually, the M-1 has many vulnerability issues, especially in the urban environment, although personally, i'd target the fuel tanker. %-)
(once an 11H, always an 11H. %-)
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:33:48pm |
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:00pm |
20% in Los Angeles County receive public aid
One in five Los Angeles County residents -- nearly 2.2 million people -- are receiving public assistance payments or benefits, a level county officials say will rise significantly over the coming months as the fallout from the recession continues.
The percentage of people on county aid already equals the figure at the height of the 2001-03 recession and far exceeds the one in seven who needed help during the economic downturn in the early 1990s and the one in nine assisted in the collapse of the early 1980s.
/and people wonder why California is broke
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:01pm |
re: #212 Hard Right
Yeah but Obama supported the bill and had as of about a week prior legislation to nationalize the CA serial tracking plan maybe someone told him it wouldn't work, but his intent was to put it to congress.
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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:06pm |
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:20pm |
re: #218 calcajun
I know--that's why I qualified the statement. No one I know of has read through the Stimulus bill--Law, now-- to see what taxes are in there. There is no redacted version of which I know. I do anticipate a tax on ammo, much in the same vein as a "sin" tax on cigarettes and alcohol--which I'm sure will rise and will affect me a lot more than a tax on ammo. I tend to go through more Scotch than bullets.
Unless you're shooting at scotch bottles.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:40pm |
re: #219 redc1c4
actually, the M-1 has many vulnerability issues, especially in the urban environment, although personally, i'd target the fuel tanker. %-)
(once an 11H, always an 11H. %-)
I'll be holding the video camera while you do your thing.
//
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:54pm |
Good evening, lizards. Just here for a few minutes and watching out for the self inflicted Iron Fist rule. Who in the hell is artkey and why is he/she downdinging the thread.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:34:55pm |
re: #223 Killer Tomato
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
"I do swear this in the name of my mother and my father and the deity of my choice..."
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:35:21pm |
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:35:34pm |
re: #217 soccerdad
I never advocated rebellion. I stated if Glenn beck's civil war occured it would be a result of Obama stomping on hte Constitution and it would not be the military's responsibility to support the Government in that case.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:36:00pm |
re: #227 schnapp
what's that supposed to mean?
It means you look at the precedents, the current regulations, the laws in place, etc.
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calcajun Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:36:07pm |
re: #213 Walter L. Newton
Glen has jumped the shark.
No, Glen, like other conservative talk show hosts, is channeling Peter Finch's "Howard Beale". This is a mere ratings grab. The whole concept of Conservatism is in flux right now and everyone is grabbing for the reins.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:36:26pm |
Good night all. I just got an email I was waiting for, and now it's time to tuck in.
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:36:36pm |
re: #198 soccerdad
Soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines will obey the commander in chief! we are not a third world country. Don't pretend to understand what the military might do, unless you were one of us.
i seem to remember something about "legal" and illegal" orders.......
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:37:12pm |
re: #230 rawmuse
According to the NRA, of which I am a member, it is not a law. Yet.
OK. Yeah, you have to look out for that sort of thing.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:37:39pm |
re: #235 redc1c4
Oh yeah. Try to explain that mess to a buncha teenagers.
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Idle Drifter Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:37:54pm |
Good night all.
Somebody show me the way to go home. I'm tired and I want to go to bed.....
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:38:10pm |
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Syrah Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:38:22pm |
re: #198 soccerdad
I swore to protect the constitution, not the CnC.
Following orders is not an acceptable excuse for stupidity.
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calcajun Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:38:34pm |
re: #224 Walter L. Newton
Unless you're shooting at scotch bottles.
How did you know I go shooting and empty the Scotch bottle in one event. It is a sin to shoot a full one.
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dmjboose Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:38:59pm |
re: #91 schnapp
i never liked "objectivism" anyway.
please don't get the impression that Pamela Geller is a good representative of objectivism. I'm pretty sure an objectivist would know not to compromise with neo-nazis. I remember going hopefully to her blog and feeling woefully mislead by the title.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:39:37pm |
re: #238 Idle Drifter
LOL My dad used to play that on the ukeleli (sp?)
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:39:38pm |
re: #235 redc1c4
i seem to remember something about "legal" and illegal" orders.......
Good luck making that judgement re:bho. It will take a pretty obtuse order from BHO to make our boys 'take a stand'.
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schnapp Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:39:46pm |
re: #232 Gus 802
well the index of economic freedom places australia higher than the US, so i don't know what you mean by that.
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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:39:47pm |
re: #242 Gus 802
Fact checking is not one of our strong points.
Actually, this used to be known as the site that 'fact checked your ass'.
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Throbert McGee Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:40:17pm |
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:40:47pm |
re: #247 schnapp
well the index of economic freedom places australia higher than the US, so i don't know what you mean by that.
My comment was in reference to gun rights.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:06pm |
Man I hate that almost anything gun or ammo related is auto blocked at work which makes it hard to find and link the info I'd like to.
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Tamron Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:08pm |
PROPOSED VEHICLE MILES-TRAVELED (VMT) TAX - in addition to today's gasoline tax.
A blue-ribbon national transportation commission is expected to release a report next week recommending a VMT tax.
The system would require all cars and trucks be equipped with global satellite positioning technology, a transponder, a clock and other equipment to record how many miles a vehicle was driven, whether it was driven on highways or secondary roads, and even whether it was driven during peak traffic periods or off-peak hours.
The device would tally how much tax motorists owed depending upon their road use. Motorists would pay the amount owed when it was downloaded, probably at gas stations at first, but an alternative eventually would be needed.
Rob Atkinson, chairman of the National Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing Commission, the blue-ribbon group that is developing future transportation funding options, said moving to a national VMT tax would take about a decade.
Next will be the air you breathe, the water you drink, and the amount of keystrokes you type each day. (However, you'll get a tax break for watching more than 5 hours of television each day.)
"Look into my eyes, you are getting sleepy........."
.
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Hard Right Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:08pm |
re: #248 Killer Tomato
Actually, this used to be known as the site that 'fact checked your ass'.
We still do, but it is late.
In fact, this lizard is calling it a night. Goodnight lizards and don't get to close to the porch light. It is very hot.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:10pm |
re: #249 Throbert McGee
Mwahaha! I was giving Sharmuta a raspberry!
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:13pm |
re: #248 Killer Tomato
Actually, this used to be known as the site that 'fact checked your ass'.
Yep, Dan Rather and CBS. I saw him once.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:41:59pm |
re: #246 soccerdad Sorta like telling Soldiers to kill their fellow citizens for supporting the Constitution rather than the president?
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:42:18pm |
re: #231 Rustler
I never advocated rebellion. I stated if Glenn beck's civil war occured it would be a result of Obama stomping on hte Constitution and it would not be the military's responsibility to support the Government in that case.
ok - then I stand down. Apologize if I misconstrued your post. I almost resigned my commission under Bill. I effing HATE liberals and all they stand for.
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:43:18pm |
re: #242 Gus 802
Fact checking is not one of our strong points.
LGF is the blog that fact checks your ass, but Heaven forbid we fact check one of our own and have integrity.
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redc1c4 Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:43:33pm |
re: #226 Hard Right
I'll be holding the video camera while you do your thing.
//
good: they're more likely to shoot the guy with the camera, since, from a distance, it looks like an RPG or similar weapon........ i'll be a few blocks away, cutting off the fuel supply, because once that gas hog burns up what's in the tanks, it's a very expensive, poorly located pill box. HEMMET trucks, otoh, are soft targets. logistics is the ball and chain of armored warfare.
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:43:37pm |
re: #257 Rustler
Sorta like telling Soldiers to kill their fellow citizens for supporting the Constitution rather than the president?
Like I said...good luck. In the scenario you present...clearly a fairly easy call.
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schnapp Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:43:59pm |
re: #243 dmjboose
my comment wasn't really related to the thread so i shouldn't have posted it. objectivism just doesn't appeal to me. not being personal or anything. it didn't have anything to do with geller.
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:44:51pm |
re: #258 soccerdad
This hole convo started because of Glen Beck's civil war talk. So Gus mentioned that anyone who followed suit would have to worry about apaches and A10's and such I provided the counter point most Americans aren't going to rebell unless the president violates his own oath to support and defend the Constitution.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:44:53pm |
re: #260 Sharmuta
LGF is the blog that fact checks your ass, but Heaven forbid we fact check one of our own and have integrity.
Yeah. I know personally the self censorship thing gets old fast. I've seen some BS coming from our so called allies than I have fingers on both hands.
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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:45:01pm |
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:45:18pm |
re: #240 Syrah
I swore to protect the constitution, not the CnC.
Following orders is not an acceptable excuse for stupidity.
Who decides what is stupid? You?
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:46:26pm |
re: #264 Rustler
This hole convo started because of Glen Beck's civil war talk. So Gus mentioned that anyone who followed suit would have to worry about apaches and A10's and such I provided the counter point most Americans aren't going to rebell unless the president violates his own oath to support and defend the Constitution.
Then we are in violent ageement. Nice talking with ya.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:46:40pm |
re: #260 Sharmuta
LGF is the blog that fact checks your ass, but Heaven forbid we fact check one of our own and have integrity.
Oh you can go ahead and fact check or criticize one of our own, but you better be prepared to turn in your "True Conservative" badge and receive your "Libtard RINO" badge.
/only half sarc
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Rustler Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:47:01pm |
re: #267 soccerdad
In the End yes you are the final one in hte decision making chain if you feel the order was unlawfull then by all means disobey but remember you still have to defend your decision after the fact likely in a court of law as the Prisoner abusers learned.
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Syrah Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:47:58pm |
re: #267 soccerdad
Who decides what is stupid? You?
In the end, the responsibility is always personal.
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Killer Tomato Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:50:02pm |
re: #274 Syrah
In the end, the responsibility is always personal.
Maybe in the military, but in the rest of the country more and more no one's responsible for anything - everyone's a 'victim' of something or another.
wheeeeeeee!
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:50:11pm |
It always comes down to personal responsibility. And being able to face your own actions either good or bad.
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rawmuse Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:50:19pm |
re: #274 Syrah
In the end, the responsibility is always personal.
That is why giving an order is a hell of a responsibility.
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Fried Spam Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:51:10pm |
re: #66 Charles
Mark Steyn is praising Pamela Geller now.
Are you referring to Steyn's post today about Aqsa Parvez?
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:51:10pm |
re: #266 Killer Tomato
Link?
;-)How you doin girl? You ever sleep?
I'm going to bed shortly. Link? How about one to contact Mark Steyn?
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:51:28pm |
re: #276 Killer Tomato
Maybe in the military, but in the rest of the country more and more no one's responsible for anything - everyone's a 'victim' of something or another.
wheeeeeeee!
True Dat. That there is a problem and a thread all by itself!
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:52:21pm |
re: #281 soccerdad
I left a question for you down stairs.
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:57:04pm |
re: #278 rawmuse
That is why giving an order is a hell of a responsibility.
Again...True Dat.
Redc1c4, Syrah, and Rustler...thanks for the intellectual excercise. I think we part ways in violent agreement.
I have a feeling that, were you with guys/people with me at Barnaby's (in west chester) tonight, we would have been saying loudly, NO, NO, JUST listen for a second! HERE'S WHAT I MEANT...BLAH, BLAH, FUCKING BLAH. And we would have ended up buying beers for each other.
I'm going to sleep now. talk to y'all in the am.
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soccerdad Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:57:49pm |
re: #282 Slumbering Behemoth
I left a question for you down stairs.
sorry man...going to sleep. I'll look at it in the am.
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Gus Sat, Feb 21, 2009 11:59:27pm |
re: #283 ploome hineni
don't they test for steroids?
don;t tell me this is a natural woman?
/gynecologist?
/urologist
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:00:20am |
Goodnight, lizards. Like I said, I was just here for a drive-by. I got my LGF cookbooks today and they're great. I am giving one as a gift. Just reading the choice comments and puns , as well as the artwork, makes it worth it, even if you aren't much of a cook. Buzzsamonkey's tree-hugging poem is hilarious. I am surprised I missed the post at the time.
Take care, all.
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Killer Tomato Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:01:08am |
re: #280 Sharmuta
I'm going to bed shortly. Link? How about one to contact Mark Steyn?
Perfect thing to do to end the day.
Thanks.
'night, all!
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freetoken Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:04:41am |
re: #283 ploome hineni
Ooohhh... an invitation to discuss once again "natural formations"
/much better than the un-natural ones, imo
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:05:35am |
Evening/morning all. Have the wrenches stopped swinging yet?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:08:28am |
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Pvt Bin Jammin Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:10:47am |
A teaser from buzzsawmonkey's poem in re the tree sitters:
"A tree with pristine bark so chaste
Befouled and streaked by hippie waste" LOL
Get the cookbook! The recipes look good too!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:15:06am |
For chuckles. Disregard the comments or the guy that posted it. Let it stand on it's own merits.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:16:26am |
re: #291 BlueCanuck
Evening/morning all. Have the wrenches stopped swinging yet?
we have swinging wenches? where?
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:17:34am |
re: #188 soccerdad
OK -- when Charles starts in on Glenn Beck it is becoming too much. The Lizard army, if you agree with this, is about to be laid useless. Glenn is a person with high morals, high intellectual capability
Dude, I'm pretty sure that Charles didn't attack Beck's morals or his intellect -- just Beck's poor judgment (and perhaps overall lack of wisdom) as evidenced by this scaremongering episode.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:17:40am |
re: #296 redc1c4
Probably in the lounge by now.
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Oldasdirt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:18:54am |
Hey,Hey People,Long time since last here.Howdy to you all.
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abaleh Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:19:14am |
looks like the US is short a few Islamists:
Somali children leave US for Jihad
Dozens of Somali children have left the United States in secret to join the Islamist fight against the foreign forces in Somalia.
...
Abdi blames the US federal police for her young boy’s disappearance – according to her, it is because of lack of good safeguards at airports.
“How can a very young boy be allowed to fly on a plane? The police are irresponsible,” she says.
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Gus Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:19:29am |
re: #295 BlueCanuck
For chuckles. Disregard the comments or the guy that posted it. Let it stand on it's own merits.
[Video]
Oh yeah! Here's my response!
Kumbaya
/Doh!
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:21:01am |
how low will the market go on Monday, after they've read and digested Juggy's plan for the budget?
money quotes:
Obama also seeks to increase tax collections, mainly by making good on his promise to eliminate some of the temporary tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003. While the budget would keep the breaks that benefit middle-income families, it would eliminate them for wealthy taxpayers, defined as families earning more than $250,000 a year. Those tax breaks would be permitted to expire on schedule in 2011. That means the top tax rate would rise from 35 percent to 39.6 percent, the tax on capital gains would jump to 20 percent from 15 percent for wealthy filers and the tax on estates worth more than $3.5 million would be maintained at the current rate of 45 percent.
And Obama's budget seeks to tax the earnings of hedge fund managers as normal income rather than at the lower 15 percent capital gains rate.
we are *so* screwed.
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Syrah Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:26:48am |
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Mardukhai Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:28:55am |
Look, Glenn Beck is a very funny guy when he's on stage, delivering his stand-up material. So are a lot of strange people. That doesn't mean I like to hear him mouth off on TV night after night. I don't like ideological screamers and pontificators. I would prefer to learn the nuts and bolts of an issue from people who don't already have their minds made up and their egos involved.
(Okay, I like O'Reilly -- he may have his very large ego involved, but he will climb down from a position when presented with detailed facts. Glenn Beck, he just... On the other hand, I think he's really scared for the future. I know the feeling.)
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:30:02am |
re: #302 redc1c4
Looks like I've got all the precious metals I'm going to get for the time being (thanks juggy!). I'm not completely unprepared, but what I have right now is kinda like bringing an axe handle to a gunfight.....
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:32:09am |
re: #306 Fenway_Nation //Well if your really quiet and noone sees ya an axehandle to the back of a gun carriers head will solve the whole gunless issue :P.
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Gus Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:33:09am |
re: #303 redc1c4
such good news it killed the thread.....
Yeah. It's depressing. The end result will be that they'll just take more money from the productive class and the investment class to give to the government to give to the unproductive and ignorant class that will continue to be unproductive and ignorant regardless of what government program they'll suck off of. The poverty class will just use the money to watch more Springer reruns.
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Oldasdirt Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:33:46am |
My computer was down a long,long time.All I had was AM radio,so did I miss much here.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:33:49am |
re: #305 Mardukhai
Yeah, Glenn may be scared for the future but he doesn't have to broadcast to everyone as well. I think I got fed up with all the Y2K hype, not to mention listening to all that crap on conspiracy radio.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:34:33am |
re: #308 Gus 802
Woohoo today on Jerry Springer Unwed teenage welfare mothers and why Bush is to blame. Jerry Jerry Jerry
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:35:48am |
re: #307 Rustler
Or drape a sheet over it and tell my opponents that its really an HK-91 or SPAS-12 before they can take aim at me....
/
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:35:55am |
re: #305 Mardukhai
His personal fear is no excuse for him to Sensationalise those fears inspire them in the rest of the populace and create his own Self Fulfilling Prophecy tho.
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:36:05am |
I don't have any proof of this, perhaps someone might have a link to it, but I thought I remember Glenn Beck either being a troofer or at least entertaining the notion for a short time back when the troofer movement first started to get really obnoxious (during the 2004 election cycle). Am I remembering correctly or am I confusing him with someone else?
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Gus Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:36:36am |
re: #311 Rustler
Woohoo today on Jerry Springer Unwed teenage welfare mothers and why Bush is to blame. Jerry Jerry Jerry
Yeah, just about. I hate to sound mean but these people are addicted to their victim status. Somehow I don't see them using the money to learn a trade or take some courses in physics, calculus, or history.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:36:40am |
re: #312 Fenway_Nation
Lol nah that will just blow up in your face when they realize 1 on 1 they outgunned so all fire on you.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:37:20am |
Man, there's going to be some more whackings on the last thread when Charles wakes up.
/may as well go pay your last respects now
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Gus Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:38:36am |
re: #317 Killian Bundy
Man, there's going to be some more whackings on the last thread when Charles wakes up.
/may as well go pay your last respects now
Yeah, well SOCCER never was popular in this country.
/rimshot
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:39:56am |
Still haven't found the most recent missing girl in Florida but the Sex predator was picked up, so maybe some good news unless he already got rid of the body(god forbid).
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:42:06am |
re: #308 Gus 802
Bread and Circuses. Now where did I here about something like that again?
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:43:16am |
re: #320 BlueCanuck
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Gus Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:43:20am |
re: #319 Rustler
Still haven't found the most recent missing girl in Florida but the Sex predator was picked up, so maybe some good news unless he already got rid of the body(god forbid).
Someday we'll bring back insane asylums and stiffer penalties for perps like this. Until then, we all have to suffer this type of insanity. We can thank Geraldo and many other for this.
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Gus Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:44:35am |
re: #320 BlueCanuck
Bread and Circuses. Now where did I here about something like that again?
Guess it never sunk in. Oh well. Here we go again. Sadly.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:44:38am |
re: #320 BlueCanuck
Jeez, Blue.....how's it feel to live in a country that apparently has a more pro-military, pro-free enterprise government than the one to your south?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:45:36am |
re: #321 ArchangelMichael
heh, nice. One geek cookie for you, another for getting the reference in a Star Trek answer. :)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:46:10am |
re: #324 Fenway_Nation
The universe just shook. Scary isn't it?
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Gus Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:46:20am |
Stay out of trouble and remember, don't mess with the CO. ;)
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:50:46am |
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 12:54:54am |
re: #308 Gus 802
Yeah. It's depressing. The end result will be that they'll just take more money from the productive class and the investment class to give to the government to give to the unproductive and ignorant class that will continue to be unproductive and ignorant regardless of what government program they'll suck off of. The poverty class will just use the money to watch more Springer reruns.
not to mention punishing people for creating wealth or jobs.
why invest if they're just going to take it from you?
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Cobdenite Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:02:44am |
To be fair, Steyn is defending Pamella Geller based on her attempts to create a memorial for Aqsa Parvez, who currently lies in a rather unmarked grave. This probably does not indicate that Steyn supports the entire panoply of racism and insanity that is Geller and her cohort.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:04:04am |
re: #334 Cobdenite
To be fair, Steyn is defending Pamella Geller based on her attempts to create a memorial for Aqsa Parvez, who currently lies in a rather unmarked grave. This probably does not indicate that Steyn supports the entire panoply of racism and insanity that is Geller and her cohort.
but it's a stupid idea to begin with, therefore supporting it is stupid too. the facts of *who* is pushing the idea is just insult to injury.
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Crossie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:07:02am |
re: #83 Gus 802
Actually, I was talking with an Obama voter last week. For 3.5 hours. He's more of a libertarian and a free thinker. Sceptic. Anyway, he talked up the stock up on food and arms aspect. Former USMC.
Did you find out why he voted for Obama?
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iLikeCandy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:07:21am |
re: #333 Consanescerion
Good God, that's pure evil. Do you have a link?
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gmsc Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:07:54am |
Wow--The Era of Big Government Really IS Over!
I read that California's state government is so bankrupt that it may go into federal receivership, with the U.S. government bailing it out. This will be a first in American history. California's politicians act as if they are victims of some unforeseen natural disaster. Anyone with a shred of mental integrity knows that they spent the state into bankruptcy, with other people's money--and now demand other people's money from outside of their state, to clean up the mess. What happens when the other 49 states go into receivership? Will the federal government bail all of them out, too? And, when this happens, will the federal government go into receivership? Who will bail IT out? Certainly not private industry. Most of private industry is being bailed out (more by the day) by the federal government.
If there's any silver lining in this unraveling disaster, it's watching state governments fall to pieces from lack of money. Businesses cannot recover until government gets out of the way. The worse things get, the more people will be forced to realize that either government gets out of the way, or it's the end of America. The end of government as we have known it--as a reckless, welfare-pressure group redistributive state--will be a great thing for mankind. Either government as we know it goes--or we all go. I sure hope it's the former and not the latter. But either way, Big Government has reached its closing chapters. The money has run out and the productive source of American energy--thanks to Big Government--is drying up. I'm so sad about the decline of American productive energy, but I'm so happy that government now has so much less to suck on.
I'm just starting to get it. The collapse of America, by definition, means the collapse of Big Government. If enough people want it, this can be a whole new beginning for America. Stay tuned and survive, if you can.
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hazzyday Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:10:48am |
re: #188 soccerdad
Posted this about the last thread.
He posted that because it gets him off. He would like to see it happen. He seems like a nice guy with a nice wife. Some everyday chops. end of timer people are usually in cults. Haley Comet types. Evolution passes them all by.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:11:50am |
re: #333 Consanescerion
I never heard that. That is horrible. Is it really true?
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stevieray Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:14:14am |
re: #335 redc1c4
but it's a stupid idea to begin with, therefore supporting it is stupid too. the facts of *who* is pushing the idea is just insult to injury.
Pamela Gellar is the wrong person to be pushing this idea... that is true.
Aqsa Parvez was killed by her father and brothers, and by all accounts, her mother is indifferent to her death. A grave marker is not going to come from her family.
The desire to see a marker there is a gesture of humanity. It is not "stupid".
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:17:05am |
re: #341 stevieray
Trouble is who is pushing the idea. She's been turned down flat by the people running the cemetary. There is a bit more to the story, but I don't have the links handy. A real shame other wise. Besides it seems to be driven more by agenda then humanity.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:18:46am |
re: #339 hazzyday
Yeah, heard it before,"This is the way the world ends, this is the way the world ends"... We don't need that now.
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Crossie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:22:07am |
re: #338 gmsc
We have a similar situation here in Australia. New South Wales, the biggest state, is also in dire straits mainly due to mismanagement by politicians who kept raising state taxes until the most productive businesses moved interstate. As the taxes intake declined the government raised taxes again with even more businesses leaving. The result is that NSW, the Australian powerhouse, has been reduced to begging for funds from the federal government.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:22:47am |
Clarke has some manuscripts that are sealed until like 30 years after his death. I wonder where they are today.
I hated 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:23:20am |
re: #344 Crossie
We have a similar situation here in Australia. New South Wales, the biggest state, is also in dire straits mainly due to mismanagement by politicians who kept raising state taxes until the most productive businesses moved interstate. As the taxes intake declined the government raised taxes again with even more businesses leaving. The result is that NSW, the Australian powerhouse, has been reduced to begging for funds from the federal government.
So far, it's not enough for them to make a cause-and-effect connection, unfortunately.
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stevieray Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:24:21am |
re: #338 gmsc
Except for the last part about the collapse of America, I hope he is right.
The advanced nations have driven the redistributive state further than it can healthily go... even without the current economic mess, Europe, America, and the Far East can't afford the entitlements they have already promised. The global recession simply moved the day of reckoning forward by a decade or so.
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stevieray Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:25:19am |
re: #346 Afrocity
Clarke has some manuscripts that are sealed until like 30 years after his death. I wonder where they are today.
I hated 2001: A Space Odyssey.
The book or the movie?
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:26:30am |
re: #349 stevieray
I don't care for either, but the movie sucks.
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:26:52am |
re: #347 gmsc
So far, it's not enough for them to make a cause-and-effect connection, unfortunately.
and New York is right behind California......
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:28:27am |
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redc1c4 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:28:39am |
i'm for bed...... long afternoon at the range, and we've got a bidness meeting at lunchtime tomorrow.
hope you enjoy the saturday night special fruitcup: it's cheap and readily available!
hasta y'all......
L8r!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:29:16am |
re: #350 Afrocity
Both were plodding affairs. The series didn't get much better IMHO. Some of his stuff was good, and thought provoking. He definitely wasn't one of the best writters, but he was at least one of the good ones.
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stevieray Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:31:47am |
re: #350 Afrocity
I saw it when it came out.
I was 8 or 9.
At the time, I liked the spaceships and the monkeys, but had no idea what was going on.
Still don't at some parts.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:32:03am |
re: #351 redc1c4
and New York is right behind California......
In a preview of political fights to come, both New York State and California budgets are being crippled by outsized public sector union pension obligations that are now coming due in a perfect storm—a combination of an aging population, a declining tax base, and a fiscal crisis.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:32:19am |
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:34:09am |
re: #355 BlueCanuck
sounds like a woman you meet at a bar during closing time.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:35:10am |
re: #169 SanFranciscoZionist
Flakes, Turkish Delight bars, anything by Cadbury, really...Jaffa cakes.
I'm guessing that these do not have the slightest resemblance to actual lokum (the Turkish name for "Turkish Delight"), since I don't think I've ever met anyone who was a fan of it -- even in Turkey. I mean, it's not lutefisk-bad, but it's a pretty disappointing candy.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:35:23am |
re: #354 Consanescerion
Thank you for the link. I was hoping you were making that up, but I am gratified that lizards can relay truth which is what this website is all about, mostly.
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:37:01am |
re: #354 Consanescerion
Here's a source:
[Link: findarticles.com...]
But I'm not relying on those quotes... my friend spoke with relatives of some of the houseboys. Poverty is crushing there, some families surrender their children to such fates for monetary compensation. It's why pedophilia sex tours are common in that part of the world.
This and this refute those claims. You have to scroll down to find it on the second link.
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:38:59am |
re: #363 ArchangelMichael
And yes, that first link worked 2 minutes ago, I don't know wtf is wrong with it now.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:41:19am |
re: #359 Afrocity
sounds like a woman you meet at a bar during closing time.
LOL, not quite that bad.
/don't ask, cause I won't tell. ;)
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:41:38am |
re: #363 ArchangelMichael
The first link I got was 404 not found. The second he"categorically" denied it. No raising hell to high heaven?
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:42:44am |
How can I convince my parents to move our family out of CA?
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:43:59am |
re: #346 Afrocity
I liked the book, loved the movie!I bought it on vhs and then dvd; next blue ray:)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:44:10am |
re: #364 ArchangelMichael
the first link worked for me. Now that my memory has been refreshed on that subject. I do remember it being bandied around a fair bit. Almost one of those type of rumours that just won't quit. No matter what people have had to say about it.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:45:00am |
re: #367 TheMatrix31
Show them a picture of what their skin will look like in 10 years.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:47:09am |
re: #371 Afrocity
I need a blue ray player; can you hook me up? :)
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:47:14am |
re: #366 BatGuano
All links I can find on BBC by searching for it, if they have w_asia in the URL are returning 404s but there are several.
The first link stated that investigations found no evidence of this.
Do you really believe that if there was anything to this it wouldn't have been major news?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:47:39am |
re: #358 Afrocity
2007 gets an honorable mention, too.
/So many good years to choose from for the Boston sports fan.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:48:42am |
re: #375 Fenway_Nation
...yeah about 2 more years than Cubs fans
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:49:19am |
re: #372 BatGuano
ON your knees young man/woman!
I've been doing that for a long time already....
**sigh**
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:52:35am |
re: #377 Afrocity
Ah- but Chicago has more than one team to choose from, including another seemingly hopless, cursed team that got off the eight decade championship shnide not too long ago....
Which windy city baseball team is yours?
/Also can't beat original 6 hockey...
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:53:52am |
re: #379 Fenway_Nation
Cubs Fan of course, but I am also a Red Sox Nation girl
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:56:41am |
re: #374 ArchangelMichael
Oh, if there was something to this it should be major news. When I wrote, "raising hell to high heaven," I meant what I would do if similarly charged. I do not want to believe this of Clarke and have no reason to believe it. Sometimes the strengths of the internet are its weaknesses.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:59:09am |
re: #376 Afrocity
Oh..my.. God..I'm sorry. let me fill you in on the lat twenty years... :)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 1:59:27am |
re: #381 BatGuano
As well, the story was broken by a U.K. paper a couple of days before he was supposed to be Knighted. To convienent for the timing I think.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:00:04am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:00:21am |
All of this talk of homosexuals lead me to read up on it:
. ..For example, male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding. In a well-publicized story from 2004, the Central Park Zoo in the United States replaced one male couple's stone with a fertile egg, which the couple then raised as their own offspring.
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gmsc Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:01:39am |
re: #384 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!
Thank you!
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:02:42am |
re: #381 BatGuano
Oh, if there was something to this it should be major news. When I wrote, "raising hell to high heaven," I meant what I would do if similarly charged. I do not want to believe this of Clarke and have no reason to believe it. Sometimes the strengths of the internet are its weaknesses.
I don't deny the slight possibility it is true but I don't want to believe it. That being said I know a big stink would have been made if anything was turned found. I also don't think he would have been stupid enough to talk about it openly unless he was on his deathbed at the time, and he wasn't. Also every source I can find on the Internet where that leans toward it not being true is rather legitimate, and every source claiming it to be true, rather shady. Random blogs, tabloid sites, etc.
The claim as stated and the so called evidence of it presented does not pass my bullshit detector.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:03:02am |
re: #384 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------>
Help yourselves!
Helllllllllllo!
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:03:43am |
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:04:01am |
re: #388 ArchangelMichael
I don't deny the slight possibility it is true but I don't want to believe it. That being said I know a big stink would have been made if anything was
turnedfound. I also don't think he would have been stupid enough to talk about it openly unless he was on his deathbed at the time, and he wasn't. Also every source I can find on the Internet where that leans toward it not being true is rather legitimate, and every source claiming it to be true, rather shady. Random blogs, tabloid sites, etc.The claim as stated and the so called evidence of it presented does not pass my bullshit detector.
PIMF
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:07:51am |
re: #380 Afrocity
I'm a transplant living out on the West Coast and typically my best bet to catch the Red Sox in person is when the play the Angels (including the ALDS, it seems) or those even more rare occasions when they play the Dodgers or Padres for inter-league. Having said that, I actually got to follow the Red Sox around a little in '05...starting w/ some interleague play in St. Louis before they moved up the road to play the Cubs @ Wrigley. I caught the opening game before flying back- Maddux beat Arroyo in a Friday afternoon affair. I loved Wrigley park, it was one of those places I always wanted to see in person and it would've been a shame to miss the opportunity to catch the Red Sox in the National League's most celebrated ballpark.
Thought about going back last year when the ChiSox were hosting the BoSox on the south side and the Cubs and Cards were going at it on the north side. I scrubbed those plans when I ....
A) Spent most of my stimulus money- remember those $300/$600/$1200 checks the dems sneered at?- on a day-trip to Seattle to catch the BoSox vs Mariners and
B) Was invited back east by my family for my granpa's 89th birthday and got to catch the Sox/Yankees at The House That Ruth Built Epstein Wrecked on the 4th of July, the first 2 games between the BoSox and Twins @ Fenway and a side trip to the HOF in Cooperstown...
/worthwhile trip, but no Giordanos deep-dish pizza
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:09:21am |
Good morning littleoldlady. Thank you for the fruitcup.
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iLikeCandy Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:09:29am |
re: #367 TheMatrix31
How can I convince my parents to move our family out of CA?
Oh matrix, little matrix, how old art thou?
If you're over the age of emancipation, inform your parents that you are going to move yourself and they can follow you or not.
Inevitably, they will follow you. (In fact they will probably move in with you.)
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:11:47am |
re: #396 Fenway_Nation
I went to graduate school i n Boston and lived near Fenway Park.
I like the spirit of the Red Sox.
I have only been to four ball games, 2 white sox, 1 Cubs, 1 Cubs V. Yankees game in Yankee Stadium.
If you ever come back to Chicago, I will take you for pizza.
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:14:02am |
re: #401 Consanescerion
No never heard of any of this and no offense intended, but I'm not just taking the word of some guy on a blog with 3rd hand info.
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TheMatrix31 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:15:50am |
re: #399 iLikeCandy
Oh matrix, little matrix, how old art thou?
If you're over the age of emancipation, inform your parents that you are going to move yourself and they can follow you or not.
Inevitably, they will follow you. (In fact they will probably move in with you.)
I'm 21. But I go to school here so I'm tied down at the moment. I want my parents to take my little brother and sister though, and I'd catch up later.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:17:40am |
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freetoken Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:19:35am |
Looks like impending meltdowns on the downstairs thread...
Doomer Pr0n... it makes the morning go by so much faster! (But, it does hasten spoilage of the fruit!)
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:19:57am |
littleoldlady, do you have an opinion on Arthur C. Clarke?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:23:41am |
re: #403 Afrocity
A gajillion updings ;P
You never caught a game in Fenway itself? For all its quirks and flaws, I love it- there are no signs or signals prompting the crowd to cheer or applaud (I was actually a little disappointed to see something like that in Yankee stadium last year). And although it's a bit early to contemplate it, I honestly hope that the Bruins will be hosting an outdoor game in Fenway against Montreal next season's NHL winter classic like what they did with Wrigley on new year's day....
There are no more passionate, knowledgable and loyal fans in baseball than the denizens of Red Sox Nation. (Granted you could also throw in obnoxious, drunken, boorish, overbearing....).
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:24:58am |
From the first article linked
Police interviewed three young men who had told the Sunday Mirror they had sex with Sir Arthur when they were teenagers.Inquiry is not over
Mr Nizam said all three had now withdrawn their allegations.
He said: "We have now sent the reports to the Attorney General to seek his opinion on how to proceed with this case."
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:27:10am |
re: #407 freetoken
The last time I had checked there were something like 5 sticks. Never thought that Glenn Beck had that many supporters.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:27:58am |
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:31:20am |
re: #414 littleoldlady
Ha ha, Fair enough. I hated Titanic. Not that you said you did. I love America!
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:32:27am |
re: #412 BatGuano
I will withhold judgement. He admitt to bisexual behavior not molesting teenage boys in the Playboy article. I find it oddly Ironic that when Sir Clarke's knighting was going to occur the allegations popped up.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:33:36am |
re: #414 littleoldlady
Which movie? Assume you mean 2001: A Space Odessey. While far from being my favorite piece of cinema, one thing which I appreciate about that movie is the more realistic portrayal of the issues of space flight and science. A great deal of "science fiction" today really ought to be labeled fantasy, IMO.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:35:14am |
re: #417 freetoken
Yeah one thing about Clark he wrote Science fiction not the Science Fantasy that is out there today.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:36:22am |
re: #413 BlueCanuck
I hafta say that ever since innaguration, I've rediscovered talk radio on the Right. I give Glenn Beck and Bill O'Rielly a wide berth, since at times I honestly think they were Mobys elevated to their current status soley to discredit the political right in this country. When possible, I tend to be more of a Laura Ingraham and Lars Larsen listener- I think I'm more impressed with Larsen owing to his background as an investigative journalist and being a farily laid-back host based out of a rather hostile municipality such as Havana on the Columbia Portland, OR.
Of course, there's the ever popular default of sports play-by-play and I'm also listening to more financial stuff as the market deteriorates (mostly simulcast stuff from CNBC, Bloomberg or FOX Business).
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:36:29am |
re: #409 Fenway_Nation
Nope, I have never been to Fenway. Walked by it everyday. My school even gave us free tickets occasionally. I studied so much that I never got around to it. I never went to Martha's Vineyard either.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:37:33am |
re: #416 Rustler
I agree with all points;being bisexual is different than being a pederast. The timing of the story is suspect.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:38:26am |
re: #417 freetoken
I agree. Most movies have errors so large that it's sickening. Even when they have "advisors" on staff. One of the recent Mars movies made me gag. Most of the science in it was so bogus it was bad. But if they tried to keep the movie plotted out to physics most stories would be boring. Like 2001. Just my opinion, take it or leave it.
/here's a good website that likes to destroy Science Fiction myths with the cold hard realities of physics. Atomic Rockets.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:39:53am |
re: #419 Consanescerion
Here is a counter point by a Sri Lankin.
There are some comments in this board is based on pure ignorance. I am from Sri Lanka and live probably few miles from Clarke lived.
1) Pedophelia charges against Clarke is just rumors. You can not prosecute people based on rumors.
Comment 2) Clarke's celebrity in such an impoverished place would provide quite a bit of cover.
Let me tell you Clarke lived in the richest area of Colombo (probably better than 75% of London). There is no reason to believe that if the newspapers find out they would not publish it.
It is no secret that Clarke associated young boys. These young boys are not poor boys. They are rich ones with parents who have powerful positions in the government. If they had suspected that their sons were sexually molested by Clarke, believe me Clarke would be in trouble.
Now it is fair to say media is pre occupied with the ongoing war and other matters do not get much coverage.
Ruwan, Colombo, Sri Lanka
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:40:36am |
re: #422 Afrocity
Me neither on the martha's Vineyard part. I think I've only been to Cape Cod twice in my life....
I grew up pretty far inland- in an area so economically deprived, we didn't have accents.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:40:57am |
re: #417 freetoken
That's the one. I loved the beginning, liked the ending, but found the middle both boring and disturbing at the same time.
/and I saw it BOTH ways
//if you know what I mean...
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:41:48am |
re: #421 Fenway_Nation
I love Glenn Beck and O'reilly. Hannity too. I was a DEM until last year. I now listen to talk radio as well. I like Laura Ingram, but I don't catch her show much. I disagree with her conservative stance on women's issues.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:44:22am |
re: #431 Iron Fist The allegations were raised in 1998 and were totally unfounded as he was never convicted all charges dropped and his name should have been cleared but remained tainted.
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:44:23am |
Good Morning Lizards..
how is everyone this fine day?
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:44:36am |
re: #431 Iron Fist
No he died last year. March 19, 2008.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:44:48am |
re: #431 Iron Fist
Good question. Did Arthur C. Clarke Die?
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:46:56am |
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:47:22am |
re: #430 Afrocity
I was a DEM until last year.
Really? Did that make you a PUMA?
People who know my politics simply assume that I'm a Republican when that isn't the case. I would vote for a hawkish/pro-military, pro-2nd amendment Dem (I guess they'd be what's called Blue Dog Democrats) if one ran for office out here, but we're stuck with the likes of Pelousy, Boxer, Feinstein et al....
A Dem who ran on those issues would be much better than some of the RINOs we have out here.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:47:24am |
re: #435 ArchangelMichael
I didn't know that. The last of the greats.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:49:13am |
I don't know what the controversy is all about. It seems that some have an image of figures that they admire; when confronted by a counter narrative i.e. the person is gay or a philanderer -they reject it as false in order to preserve their memory.
It is often never mentioned in the African American community that Malcolm X had homosexual experiences.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:50:03am |
re: #443 Iron Fist
Crap! He's dead too? I've read his suff since the 80's.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:51:33am |
re: #441 Fenway_Nation
Really? Did that make you a PUMA?
People who know my politics simply assume that I'm a Republican when that isn't the case. I would vote for a hawkish/pro-military, pro-2nd amendment Dem (I guess they'd be what's called Blue Dog Democrats) if one ran for office out here, but we're stuck with the likes of Pelousy, Boxer, Feinstein et al....
A Dem who ran on those issues would be much better than some of the RINOs we have out here.
How did you know I was a PUMA? I used to comment on their blog regularly until maybe a couple of weeks ago when I came here. I love them but it was definitely a liberal blog and I became weary of seeing things that I did not agree with.
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:54:15am |
re: #447 Afrocity
How did you know I was a PUMA? I used to comment on their blog regularly until maybe a couple of weeks ago when I came here. I love them but it was definitely a liberal blog and I became weary of seeing things that I did not agree with.
Good Morning Afrocity..Hope today finds you well..You PUMA you! :)
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:54:30am |
re: #444 Afrocity
It's not that we are just disbelieving something bad said about the man I was never overly fond of his writings. But I do dislike someone speaking ill of the dead when it was never proven catergorically the courts in Sri Lanka dropped the charges after all 3 of the "boys" who implicated Clarke admitt they made it up. The Mirror(the London newspaper that broke the story citing a video confession) never made good with the video they claimed to have with his admission. Some people are taking his comment to Playboy about Bisexual experiences to mean he admitt to molesting teenage boys. He admit at one point he didn't ask ages but all the men he had relations with were at least of the age of puberty and legal in the country in question.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:55:21am |
re: #444 Afrocity
It is often never mentioned in the African American community that Malcolm X had homosexual experiences.
I imagine the fact that Malcom X's widow being torched by his grandson comes up even less.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:55:40am |
re: #448 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Afrocity..Hope today finds you well..You PUMA you! :)
Good Morning Hoosier. I can't really be one I suppose because I am a Republican. That was the problem.
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freetoken Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:56:26am |
re: #424 BlueCanuck
But if they tried to keep the movie plotted out to physics most stories would be boring. Like 2001.
Suspect you are right. It does seem the real universe is too boring for audiences. However, the irony is that often the fantasy stuff in today's movies is used as deus ex machina and keeps the characters from facing the "human condition" as (old time authors would say.)
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KronoGhazi Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:56:35am |
I'm glad we have a Post Racial President instead of a Most Racial President.
/s
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:57:33am |
re: #447 Afrocity
How did you know I was a PUMA?
Just a lucky guess, actually. Prior to the election, there was much speculation here on how much of a factor the PUMAs would be....
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:58:04am |
re: #451 Fenway_Nation
I imagine the fact that Malcom X's widow being torched by his grandson comes up even less.
Hmm, we talk about how Betty Shabazz dies. The Shabazz family is sort of effed up.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:59:53am |
re: #455 BigPapa
I'm glad we have a Post Racial President instead of a Most Racial President.
/s
If he addresses Gore-Bull Global Warming again, should we address him as the Roast Glacial President?
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:01:04am |
re: #450 Rustler
I don't know sounds kind of Michael Jackson-ish to me. Throw in a chimpanzee and a hyperbaric chamber and you have a Thriller on your hands.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:02:48am |
re: #458 Iron Fist
I own none. I would like to but I think it is illegal in Chicago.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:02:49am |
re: #449 Iron Fist
It depends on what you are looking for. David Drake is good for the miltary edge in Sci-Fi. He also deals more with the human factor and the science is just to drag the story along when needed. He also has a good knowledge of history and has reworked a few stories into his fiction. John Ringo is also a good military writer, Tom Kratmann (sp?), David Weber, and if you want to look at the silver age there's Niven and Pournelle.
/off the top of my head, but I am sure there are a few more out there as well.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:02:54am |
Speaking of guns...where's the best place to buy ammunition? Online? WalMart?
/Charles may well scoff at Glenn Beck, but watching that show Friday night made me at least realize that we are not prepared
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:02:54am |
re: #449 Iron Fist
Damn, i didn't know.Time passes. Just tell me that Harlan Ellison is still alive. I remember the day that Robert Heinlein died.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:04:57am |
re: #385 Afrocity
All of this talk of homosexuals lead me to read up on it:
For example, male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding. In a well-publicized story from 2004, the Central Park Zoo in the United States replaced one male couple's stone with a fertile egg, which the couple then raised as their own offspring.
Incidentally, the two male chinstrap penguins (Pygoscelis antarcticus) in THAT particular case didn't mate for life, although they stuck together for six consecutive mating seasons. But they "broke up" a year or two after hatching the foster egg, and one of them paired with a female in a subsequent mating season. (That heterosexual pairing only lasted one season, though, and as far as I've been able to find on the Web, both males have remained bachelors in recent years -- possibly because they're now quite elderly by the standards of their species.)
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:05:19am |
re: #463 littleoldlady
I've got my axe-handle, LoL...
/And a .357 that's older than me and kinda looks it
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:06:56am |
re: #465 Throbert McGee
Incidentally, the two male chinstrap penguins (Pygoscelis antarcticus) in THAT particular case didn't mate for life, although they stuck together for six consecutive mating seasons. But they "broke up" a year or two after hatching the foster egg, and one of them paired with a female in a subsequent mating season. (That heterosexual pairing only lasted one season, though, and as far as I've been able to find on the Web, both males have remained bachelors in recent years -- possibly because they're now quite elderly by the standards of their species.)
So it seems they are gay birds /
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:07:29am |
re: #462 BlueCanuck
I love David Drakes Fantasy based WW2 Series.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:08:03am |
re: #464 BatGuano
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:08:05am |
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verybadcat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:08:59am |
Take a look at the blog Mere Rhetoric. Some interesting claims about Obama's National Security Adviser James L. Jones in there.
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:09:16am |
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freetoken Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:10:08am |
re: #463 littleoldlady
My take from that thread is that Charles is more angered than scoffing.
For me, I find Doomer Pr0n both fascinating and disgusting, (and I don't think that relationship is unusual.)
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:10:38am |
re: #472 HoosierHoops
But they look Fabulous!
I am still waiting for you to join Facebook so we can be friends through the LGF page.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:11:02am |
re: #468 Rustler
Which one is that? Do you have a book title for me to go on?
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:11:09am |
re: #464 BatGuano
Still alive but hes gettin up there in years.
His friend Isaac Asimov noted that, "Harlan uses his gifts for colorful and variegated invective on those who irritate him — intrusive fans, obdurate editors, callous publishers, offensive strangers."
Random quote about him from Asimov.
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:11:38am |
re: #474 Afrocity
I am still waiting for you to join Facebook so we can be friends through the LGF page.
Never been to facebook..Is there a link to the page?
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:11:52am |
re: #472 HoosierHoops
But they look Fabulous!
Hey, if you dress in a tux all the time you would look fabulous too. :)
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:12:01am |
re: #475 BlueCanuck
Remind me tomorrow night I'll look at home have the series. If you read it try to figure out who is who in it.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:12:10am |
I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.
I will change mine if you change yours.
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:13:44am |
re: #480 Afrocity
I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.
I will change mine if you change yours.
NOOooooooo! I like your avatar
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:14:42am |
re: #469 BlueCanuck
Good news! Although I read in the San Jose Murky news he sued, and won, a lawsuit against James Cameron for ripping off his " Soldier of the Future Story" that Cameron ripped off in"Terminator'.
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callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:15:15am |
re: #480 Afrocity
I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.
I will change mine if you change yours.
Let your avatar unchanged. It's wonderful.
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:16:47am |
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:16:50am |
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:17:36am |
re: #480 Afrocity
I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.
I will change mine if you change yours.
Yours is a nice avatar that should. I think you should leave it be...
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callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:18:14am |
re: #486 HoosierHoops
Good Morning! How are you today?
Very well, thanks. {Hoops}
And good morning to all Lizards.
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Tamron Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:18:47am |
re: #480 Afrocity
I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.
I will change mine if you change yours.
Maybe he's the real Obama!
.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:18:49am |
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freetoken Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:18:55am |
re: #480 Afrocity
I may leave now that Freetoken is here. That avatar bugs me.
Well... sorry to hear that. Anyway, I must go do some chores... but here is some light-hearted music to help the time go by:
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:19:02am |
re: #485 Iron Fist
Do you have a palm pilot or other such pda? Baen online has a free library with one or two books in some authors series that I mentioned so you could try before you buy. As well they sell all there books in electronic format that is way cheaper then paperback. Even paying the exchange rate from Canadian to American dollars I am saving money.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:20:14am |
re: #491 Rustler
Yeah, I read about the first three books of that series. Got a bit bored of it though. But I do like his alternate world books he does put out.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:20:27am |
re: #491 Rustler
Darkness Decending is hte First in the series.
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:21:46am |
re: #488 Fenway_Nation
But everytime I see Freetoken's avatar it is like kryptonite. How would you like it if I changed my avatar to Nancy Pelosi? Free Token has intelligent commentary but that avatar makes me skim his posts. I don't like Obama the man or the logo.
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:23:14am |
re: #463 littleoldlady
Fear mongering and other Beck moonbattery aside, most people in America are not prepared for any such problem. I read somewhere that Americans have an average of 2 days worth of food and water.
Every American household should store 2 to 4 weeks worth of food, water, and basic supplies to deal with any disaster. Not necessarily civil unrest, terrorism, or war. I'm just talking about surviving hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, bad snowstorms, out of control wildfires, etc. I think Katrina should have hit that point home to everyone.
What happens the next time a solar flare or coronal mass ejection knocks out half the power in the country for several days?
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callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:27:19am |
re: #498 ArchangelMichael
What happens the next time a solar flare or coronal mass ejection knocks out half the power in the country for several days?
Not likely in the next few days.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:28:12am |
re: #491 Rustler
You fans of counterfatcuals who have not read. " Guns of The South", by Harry Turtledove, do so now! Ignore the PC crap that he trows in there, just read and enjoy. Hint: what if the south had AK 47's.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:28:36am |
Night Afrocity, rest well and pleasant dreams
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Neutral President Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:30:20am |
re: #501 callahan23
Not likely in the next few days.
Probably not likely for a long time since we have have practically zero sunspots for over a year. The possibility still exists, its happened before in the NE and Canada.
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callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:33:27am |
re: #509 ArchangelMichael
Exactly my thinking.
The stocking up of emergency supplies is also a good idea.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:33:32am |
re: #499 Consanescerion
Taking as canon the story implicating him and believing rumors on the street isn't right tho. The fact of the matter is charges were dropped he was never tried and the only source that really picked up on hte story was the Mirror. He may or may not have been guilty but I will withhold judging hte man because he was cleared of the charges. Not in a court case thru really good lawyers and lots of money but before it even went to trial the boys were requestioned and admitt to lying. The timing of the story also leads to suspicions. Or do you think it was plausable for the story to break 1 week before he was knighted when he had been celebate for approximately 20 years prior to 1998.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:33:45am |
The difference between Republicans & Democrats
A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person.
The republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person.
The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, He decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the Republicans pocket and gave him fifty dollars.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:35:17am |
What is one billion?
According to a recent government publication ...
A billion seconds ago Harry Truman was president.
A billion minutes ago was just after the time of Christ.
A billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth.
A billion dollars ago was late yesterday at the U.S. Treasury.
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Throbert McGee Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:36:00am |
re: #444 Afrocity
It is often never mentioned in the African American community that Malcolm X had homosexual experiences.
I'll bet that wouldn't blow as many African-American minds as...
...wait for it!...
...George Washington Carver.
(There's an obvious joke here about "the scientist who found over 100 different uses for peanu'ss," but I'm not going to sully the thread by making it.)
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:39:59am |
re: #515 Throbert McGee
I heard on the food network (Alton Brown), he did not invent peanut butter.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:41:11am |
Lots of folks are forced to skimp to support a government that won't.
There's one thing the Democrats and Republicans share in common: Our money.
...Veni, Vedi, Clinti--I came, I saw, I lied.
A little girl asked her father, "Daddy? Do all Fairy Tales begin with 'Once Upon A Time'?"
He replied, "No, there is a whole series of Fairy Tales that begin with 'If elected I promise'."
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callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:41:32am |
re: #511 Rustler
I am also pretty convinced that that story was fabricated in order to have a nice scandal at hand.
And I know some things about legal systems or the lack and insecurity thereof in third world countries.
My own house guard was arrested only because of a fabricated accusation. Everybody knew and yet he was kept in police custody for more than four weeks until bribes traveled the correct channels.
It leaves you shaken and pretty insecure in that foreign culture.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:41:47am |
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:43:22am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:43:37am |
re: #497 Iron Fist
We actually had a gun shop in this township for many years, but he closed down a couple of years ago.
/I don't know why, but....bad timing!
//I guess WalMart it is then, since there's no gun shows around here...
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:44:43am |
re: #498 ArchangelMichael
Well, that's what we were talking about. (And I thank Glenn for that!)
Just basic survival stuff.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:45:05am |
Idiots...complete igits: Our Keystone Cops Foreign Policy
It appears that Barack Obama's foreign policy team is going to make us pine for the days of the Bush Administration's competency by comparison very soon.I'm not sure what exactly this story illustrates except there doesn't seem to be anyone home at the White House yet. [.]
...and I wouldn't expect to find anyone occupying the WH for more than a photo-shoot until the 2012 presidential campaign is over which, btw, won't be anytime soon.
Then we have these two complete numbskulls, Brian Baird (Dhimmicrat-Washington) & Keith Ellison (Dork-Islamist at Large): 'Israel must change "counterproductive" Gaza policies'
Mornin folks, Lol, bat, Blue, Afrocity, Fenway, free...all.
Are we havin fun yet?
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:45:24am |
re: #520 Dustyvet
Hoosier...sorry...For Gods sake dusty turn on a light...
LOL
I get called hossier often also..
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:45:25am |
re: #514 Dustyvet
Oh, let's not stir things up. We must all make sacrifices to make sure that the One's presidency is successful.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:47:59am |
re: #503 Iron Fist
talloldman was a deer hunter. He has a 12 gauge shotgun he got from his father that he used for many years. About 20 years ago he had surgery on his chest that made it impossible to use the shotgun, so he bought some kind of magnum.
/I can never remember what it is
We have minimal ammo for both, but I think we should have more.
/Lord help me if I have to learn how to use either one "on the job"!
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:49:41am |
Dustyvet! :-)
aboo! :-)
Are we havin fun yet?
Well, we're buying ammo...
;-)
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:50:55am |
Good morning aboo. Each day gives me another reason to be thankful that I am still alive at the least.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:52:25am |
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:55:40am |
Good luck buying the ammo, in lots of places it's being rationed by the retailers and some of the backlogs from the manufacturers are now going into 2 months.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 3:59:28am |
3 years ago my dad left me a .32, two boxes of ammo. Should I upgrade to a shotgun?
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:00:18am |
Hi not really caught up yet but could someone tell me what the mass meltdown on the glenn beck thread was about?
And this cute video goes to whoever answers
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:02:05am |
re: #535 Neo Con since 9-11
Hi not really caught up yet but could someone tell me what the mass meltdown on the glenn beck thread was about?
And this cute video goes to whoever answers
Hi neocon! good morning..Didn't know about the meltdown..I'll go back and read it
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:02:56am |
re: #535 Neo Con since 9-11
Hi not really caught up yet but could someone tell me what the mass meltdown on the glenn beck thread was about?
And this cute video goes to whoever answers
I think, not sure of the total count...but like 9 trools bit it...Stinky was hitting them right out of the park.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:04:12am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:05:05am |
re: #535 Neo Con since 9-11
Don't know too much about it. But I think a few were calling out the boss for jumping on Beck. From what I gathered though I think he was right about doing it. If he was screaming end of the world, apocalypse junk he should be held accountable. Stuff like that is only good for the loons on both sides of the fence.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:06:00am |
re: #535 Neo Con since 9-11
You'll never catch up. I tried. Apparently the survivalists didn't survive. The video had baby deer and kitties so you get a ding up.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:07:12am |
Woman Gets Graduation Invite in Mail ... 22 Years Late
Better late then never...:)
/s
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:07:38am |
re: #533 littleoldlady
Ruh roh :-(
Don't worry you'll be able to find some but it's really pretty weird - whatever the current rationalization.
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abaleh Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:08:24am |
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:09:01am |
re: #537 Dustyvet
I think, not sure of the total count...but like 9 trools bit it...Stinky was hitting them right out of the park.
Holy Cow! that last thread was quite destructive to several ex-lizards..
Wow!
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:11:10am |
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verybadcat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:11:23am |
That's only the beginning . . .
US participation in Durban 2 . . .
Anti-Israeli National Security Adviser James L Jones . . .
it gets worse . . .
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:11:41am |
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:13:51am |
re: #547 littleoldlady
As well Mel Lono got the stick. Missed what he posted but it must have been naughty.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:14:09am |
re: #534 BatGuano
Nothing better for home defense without risking shooting thru hte walls than a shotgun with bird shot. Plus there is the whole Psychological effect of the bigger the hole in the barrel your staring at the faster your bowels completely void themselves.
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:14:37am |
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:15:14am |
re: #540 BlueCanuck
More like he had his guest playing the doom and gloom preachers while he acted shocked surprised and amazed that it was happening.
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:15:55am |
re: #554 Rustler
Exactly what I thought. I be shotgun shopping.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:16:03am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:16:07am |
Roxanne (The Dog) - She Who Rules My Life - is telling me it's time to get moving...
Good day, ALL!™
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:17:33am |
re: #560 littleoldlady
Roxanne (The Dog) - She Who Rules My Life - is telling me it's time to get moving...
Good day, ALL!™
Takes cookie out of mouth and looks at it...Milk Bone....:P
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:19:03am |
Just jaw dropping video showing Volcano's on the Science channel..Stuff I've never seen..whoa..cool vid's
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verybadcat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:20:16am |
Man, what does it take to be heard around this place?
on Mere Rhetoric we have:
Obama's anti-Israel National Security Adviser
The Islamic Republic of Sweden
Obama's Rush To Engage Syria Uninhibited By IAEA Confirmation Of Syrian Nuke Program
and much much more.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:22:28am |
re: #564 verybadcat
Have you posted those in the link dump upstairs? That stuff is news worthy.
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verybadcat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:24:01am |
I am new and clueless about such things. What is the link dump?
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:24:55am |
re: #564 verybadcat
Great link..You've only made 6 posts here..Stop being a stranger
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:25:16am |
re: #563 HoosierHoops
Just jaw dropping video showing Volcano's on the Science channel..Stuff I've never seen..whoa..cool vid's
I'm watching Star Trek on line...Shatner the Canadian canned ham...
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freetoken Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:25:51am |
re: #567 archer50
Did you happen to read the lengthy discussion of this topic up thread?
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Occasional Reader Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:27:16am |
re: #534 BatGuano
3 years ago my dad left me a .32, two boxes of ammo. Should I upgrade to a shotgun?
Yes.
You should also add:
-One forty-five caliber semiautomatic handgun
-Two pairs ladies' nylons
-[you know the rest]
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:28:35am |
re: #572 Occasional Reader
Yes.
You should also add:
-One forty-five caliber semiautomatic handgun
-Two pairs ladies' nylons
-[you know the rest]
LOL
Did you make it home ok? You still aren't in an airport are you?
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:28:46am |
re: #572 Occasional Reader
Yes.
You should also add:
-One forty-five caliber semiautomatic handgun
-Two pairs ladies' nylons
-[you know the rest]
Combination Russian Phrase Book and Bible...
| 575 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:29:22am |
re: #567 archer50
Don't go there, we have already argued this out. It seems strange that the only printed accusation was from that paper. Just the once and nothing since. No charges, no trial, and this was published a week before his knighting.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:30:09am |
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Occasional Reader Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:30:38am |
re: #573 HoosierHoops
LOL
Did you make it home ok? You still aren't in an airport are you?
I'm in Miami airport, awaiting my connecting flight home.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:31:30am |
re: #567 archer50
The Mirror is not a creditable news source. Clarke was subsequentially cleared and charges dropped after the 3 accusers claimed they lied.
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:31:32am |
re: #568 verybadcat
Okay at the top of the page it shows a link viewer. You just select submit link and fill in the blanks as required.
| 580 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:31:45am |
I'm still looking for Obama bumper sticker ideas.
How about 'Obama poops daisies'?
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:32:41am |
re: #572 Occasional Reader
Condoms? A feller could have purty good time in Vegas.
| 582 |
Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:33:29am |
re: #577 Occasional Reader
I'm in Miami airport, awaiting my connecting flight home.
I've always wanted to visit there..Came this close to going to the SuperBowl there in 06..Dang it!
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Occasional Reader Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:35:55am |
re: #582 HoosierHoops
I've always wanted to visit there..Came this close to going to the SuperBowl there in 06..Dang it!
Miami is pretty wacky in a lot of ways, but is a nice place for a mid-winter break. And if you hunt around, you can usually find a cheap flight, a long as it's not one of the key holiday weekends.
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Occasional Reader Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:37:23am |
re: #581 BatGuano
Condoms? A feller could have purty good time in Vegas.
But seriously, folks... I fully support the idea of getting a shotgun. Ain't nothing like it for home defense, or shit-hitting-fan scenarios. (And by that I don't mean "civil war", more like Katrina-style temporary breakdown in civil order.)
| 585 |
BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:38:36am |
re: #582 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoosier, I once referred to you as a male. Was I wrong?
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:41:52am |
re: #585 BatGuano
Hey Hoosier, I once referred to you as a male. Was I wrong?
Hey Bat..I'm a guy..Born and raised in California..Played college ball.. We transfered to Indiana for my job. Thus hoosierhoops..I'm a basketball freak..
Good Morning
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:42:02am |
nk">#536 HoosierHoops
re: #537 Dustyvet
Thanksre: #541 BatGuano
You'll never catch up. I tried. Apparently the survivalists didn't survive. The video had baby deer and kitties so you get a ding up.
Yikes, when the survivalists don't survive you know things have gotten bad. What did they do? And does the fact that I store 3 weeks worth of of water and a pound of canned meat make me a survivalist? and thanks for the ding.re: #539 littleoldlady
Neo Con! :-)
I didn't see it.
/stole the prize anyway
//THANKS! ;-)
Hi LOL but you didn't earn the cute video so you need to put it back
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Occasional Reader Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:42:28am |
re: #585 BatGuano
Hey Hoosier, I once referred to you as a male. Was I wrong?
Of course, you may have been correct at the time, but no longer.
/pure speculation, of course
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:42:39am |
re: #585 BatGuano
Hey Hoosier, I once referred to you as a
malerational human being. Was I wrong?
Wow Hoosier. I wouldn't take that from BatGuano!
//
| 590 |
Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:43:39am |
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Occasional Reader Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:44:32am |
What the hell are all you guys doing up so early on a Sunday morning, anyway?
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:45:55am |
re: #587 Neo Con since 9-11
That ate my entire comment but I wanted to thank all those who replied.
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:46:11am |
re: #591 Occasional Reader
What the hell are all you guys doing up so early on a Sunday morning, anyway?
I'm always up early..In another month or two I'll be swimming laps at 5am in the pool..Now I just look at the 3" of snow I need to shovel..
| 594 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:46:57am |
re: #591 Occasional Reader
What the hell are all you guys doing up so early on a Sunday morning, anyway?
It's almost 8am, nearly lunchtime.
| 595 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:47:34am |
re: #588 Occasional Reader Hoops get in trouble with the missus and get castrated or what?
| 596 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:47:43am |
re: #591 Occasional Reader
What the hell are all you guys doing up so early on a Sunday morning, anyway?
cleaning up the blood on the floor from last nights massacre!
| 598 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:48:56am |
re: #596 sattv4u2
cleaning up the blood on the floor from last nights massacre!
Which thread? And....
Were there...casualties?
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:50:17am |
re: #584 Occasional Reader
That seems to be the consensus even in the pre-internet age. If I need to defend my home, I do not want to rely on my marksmanship.The sight of my, in Cajun parlance, "twice bawrrel auromatic shoot gun" should deter the bad guys.
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Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:51:29am |
re: #599 BatGuano
That seems to be the consensus even in the pre-internet age. If I need to defend my home, I do not want to rely on my marksmanship.The sight of my, in Cajun parlance, "twice bawrrel auromatic shoot gun" should deter the bad guys.
When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:51:53am |
The one just before this one (Glenn Beck)
9 at last count. I left at around post # 1000. There were about 100 after that so I'm not sure if 9 was the final tally
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:52:24am |
re: #598 J.D.
Which thread? And....
Were there...casualties?
The one just before this one (Glenn Beck)
9 at last count. I left at around post # 1000. There were about 100 after that so I'm not sure if 9 was the final tally
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:53:25am |
re: #601 sattv4u2
The one just before this one (Glenn Beck)
9 at last count. I left at around post # 1000. There were about 100 after that so I'm not sure if 9 was the final tally
I went back about an hour ago.. wow..bloodbath is right...
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:53:42am |
re: #598 J.D.
Not to mention the Jindal thread as well. I believe the body count may reach double digits. Almost seems as bad as the "Friday Night Massacre" I have heard about.
| 605 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:53:44am |
re: #602 sattv4u2
Newbies? Oldsters?
Anyone we'll actually miss?
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:53:45am |
re: #598 J.D.
The glen beck thread gamey buttocks is on the table indefineately enjoy.(think current count is 9 in that thread got the stick)
Off on another topic if I hear 1 more newsie claim the chimp comic was racist or an attempt to encourage an Obama Assassination I'm gonna put my foot thru the TV. Pelosi wrote the bill if anyone is being compared to a chimp it's her. If it's trying to encourage anyone to get shot it's her. Noone said shit when Bush was Chimpified god knows how many times. Lastly there is that old addage about 100 monkeys and keyboards turning out Shakespeare in 100 years. Well if you only give 1 monkey 1 day all you get is the Stimulus package.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:53:56am |
re: #602 sattv4u2
The one just before this one (Glenn Beck)
9 at last count. I left at around post # 1000. There were about 100 after that so I'm not sure if 9 was the final tally
I think it was 9, when the overnight Thread Opened...
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Occasional Reader Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:54:19am |
re: #599 BatGuano
That seems to be the consensus even in the pre-internet age. If I need to defend my home, I do not want to rely on my marksmanship.The sight of my, in Cajun parlance, "twice bawrrel auromatic shoot gun" should deter the bad guys.
However, just to further complicate things, Mas Ayoob (handgun defense expert) makes a good case for HANDGUN as your primary home defense weapon. Saw it in a gun mag recently, not sure which one.
Anyway, off to my next flight. Later.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:55:52am |
re: #605 J.D.
Globular cluster 5 year veteran got the stick. One other long termer I forget who as well and rest were normal trash as far as I know.
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:56:20am |
re: #608 Occasional Reader
However, just to further complicate things, Mas Ayoob (handgun defense expert) makes a good case for HANDGUN as your primary home defense weapon. Saw it in a gun mag recently, not sure which one.
Anyway, off to my next flight. Later.
be safe...Enjoy home when you get there
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:56:32am |
re: #605 J.D.
A) Newbies? Oldsters?
B) Anyone we'll actually miss?
A) 2 oldsters from what was said, but I missed who they were
B) doubt it
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:56:46am |
re: #609 Rustler
Globular cluster 5 year veteran got the stick. One other long termer I forget who as well and rest were normal trash as far as I know.
Dragon somebody...?
| 613 |
BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:57:24am |
re: #586 HoosierHoops
Ok Hoosier. I meant no offense. I confused you with some other lizard . As long as you worship Larry Bird and The Chief. you're Ok. : )
| 614 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:57:26am |
re: #553 BlueCanuck
As well Mel Lono got the stick. Missed what he posted but it must have been naughty.
/to save typing . :)
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smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:58:07am |
| 616 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:58:53am |
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:58:54am |
re: #609 Rustler
Globular cluster 5 year veteran got the stick. One other long termer I forget who as well and rest were normal trash as far as I know.
There is only one lizard i don't like..Spacejesus..He has insulted too many lizards around here..
| 618 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:59:15am |
re: #608 Occasional Reader
Handguns are good the reason for a shotgun is to limit collateral damage tho most handguns are easily capable of penetrating thru a human body and continuing thru an interior wall and killing someone on the other side. High Expantion Jacketed Hollowpoints limit the chances of overpenetration but best bet to limit it is using a shotgun with bird shot.
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smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:59:32am |
re: #616 Dustyvet
Hello Dusty, how is every little thing with you this AM
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:59:46am |
re: #617 HoosierHoops
There is only one lizard i don't like..Spacejesus..He has insulted too many lizards around here..
HOOSIER LIKES ME ! I'M SOMEBODY !
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:59:46am |
re: #617 HoosierHoops
There is only one lizard i don't like..Spacejesus..He has insulted too many lizards around here..
Space get the stick?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:00:32am |
brb ,,, the coffee around here doesn;t make itself !
| 624 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:00:40am |
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:02:00am |
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J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:02:25am |
re: #606 Rustler
Peter Verwhatshisname looks to be one.
That's a damned shame.
/tribute to Charles's patience
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:02:28am |
re: #615 smokefire
I should start calling you Norman Dale.
Good morning smoke.. great movie..with alot of classic lines..
'now boys.don't be caught watching the paint dry!'
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BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:02:48am |
re: #600 Harry Tuttle
Yes, that works out mathematically .:)
| 630 |
smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:03:13am |
re: #626 Dustyvet
They have things for that problem....................I think it's called PREPARATION H
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Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:03:24am |
Alright I need more bbq capacity for an event I am in the early stages of planning. Do I get a second Weber smokey mountiain water smoker or should I look at other options (Brinkman, others...). Any advice?
| 632 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:03:38am |
re: #627 J.D.
Peter Verwhatshisname looks to be one.
That's a damned shame.
/tribute to Charles's patience
Yup he got nailed
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smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:04:03am |
re: #628 HoosierHoops
One of Dennis Hopper's more lucid "sober" moments.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:05:51am |
Dumb @#(^'s, all of'em - I swear: Crisis may be worse than Depression: Volcker
Our genius' are quite likely to talk us into numerous crises whose roots find ground in nothing but self-fulfilling prophesy. ...this I blame on the actions of our Commander-in-Grief.
Tension's in and amongst the more powerful cogs are already closing-in at fevered pitch; in part, noted by the Russian's sinking of a Chinese freighter, Friday. As the more brittle economies slow & roll downhill, the greater the momentum and accumulation of angst - can't these jerks just shut their pie-holes?
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smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:06:03am |
re: #631 Harry Tuttle
.............Yeah ORDER OUT, or have it catered.
Solves that problem.
If you are lucky enough to be in a BBQ region, then ordering out/catered event takes all the guess work out of your problems
| 636 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:06:58am |
re: #632 Dustyvet
I updinged you just for verifying.
/yes, I am on my 4th cup of coffee why do you ask?
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Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:07:14am |
re: #621 Dustyvet
Space get the stick?
I hope not..I plan on making him the laughingstock of LGF before I'm done.
He has well over -500 downdings..But he has insulted some lizard friends of mine.. I want a piece of his ass..
| 638 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:08:13am |
re: #635 smokefire
.............Yeah ORDER OUT, or have it catered.
Solves that problem.
If you are lucky enough to be in a BBQ region, then ordering out/catered event takes all the guess work out of your problems
That takes all the fun out of it.
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:09:19am |
re: #637 HoosierHoops
I hope not..I plan on making him the laughingstock of LGF before I'm done.
He has well over -500 downdings..But he has insulted some lizard friends of mine.. I want a piece of his ass..
I agree, he pushes but has yet to cross Charles's lines...nail the sod...
| 640 |
smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:11:15am |
[Link: www.topix.net...]
Just in case this story was missed the other day.
Our Senator strikes again.
There has been signs saying "Abort Obama,
As a Connecticut resident, I say ABORT DODD.
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smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:12:45am |
re: #638 Harry Tuttle
maybe so, but it also takes all the anxiety out of it too.
With everything else going on, everyone needs a little less anxiety.
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callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:13:10am |
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:14:21am |
re: #627 J.D. That's it lol wasn't even a j in there but had half the alphabet.
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Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:14:52am |
re: #641 smokefire
maybe so, but it also takes all the anxiety out of it too.
With everything else going on, everyone needs a little less anxiety.
I am talking about cooking meat over fire, what else is going on that's important? :-)
Actually now that I think about it the WSM has been upgraded from a 18 to 22 inch (super WSM) this past year. I think that may be the way to go.
| 645 |
Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:17:13am |
re: #639 Dustyvet
I agree, he pushes but has yet to cross Charles's lines...nail the sod...
LOL I'll be nice...but..doesn't matter what he posts for eternity.. I'll disagree and cut him down in my finest trash talking style..
overall he isn't worth a minute of my time...But I'll have some fun with it..
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J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:17:16am |
re: #634 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
No worries. We're going to tax our way out of this, no problem.
Or, we could all move to Asia.
...Using a somewhat different definition—those earning $10-100 a day, including in rich countries—an Indian economist, Surjit Bhalla, also found that the middle class’s share of the whole world’s population rose from one-third to over half (57%) between 1990 and 2006. He argues that this is the third middle-class surge since 1800. The first occurred in the 19th century with the creation of the first mass middle class in western Europe (see chart 1). The second, mainly in Western countries, occurred during the baby boom (1950-1980). The current, third one is happening almost entirely in emerging countries. According to Mr Bhalla’s calculations, the number of middle-class people in Asia has overtaken the number in the West for the first time since 1700 (see chart 2). ...
| 648 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:17:42am |
re: #642 callahan23
So coordinated effort to instigate Spaceboy into melting down.//
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:18:19am |
re: #643 Rustler
That's it lol wasn't even a j in there but had half the alphabet.
Reminds me of the Police Officer and the drunk on the side of road.
Officer: recite the alphabet backwards starting at W.
Drunk: Shit, I can't even to that sober!
| 650 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:19:18am |
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smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:19:39am |
re: #644 Harry Tuttle
OK Harry, knock yourself out.
I should talk. We barbecue in all kinds of weather up here in Northeast CT. Snow, rain, sleet, cold, it don't matter. Course it's just me and the wife. And it's just an old Webber Gas Grill, so in reality, it is not REAL barbecuing. I do like watching those shows on Food Channel about the best barbecue joints in America. Too bad we don't have anything like that up here.
| 652 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:20:04am |
Obama aims to halve deficit by 2013 - I guess that means serious trouble for the other 23-1/2 states.
Anyway we dont have to drive it honey, we can park it out in back
And have a party in your pink cadillac
| 653 |
callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:20:27am |
re: #648 Rustler
Guess so, every time I post about the insult to La Reine space's post is collecting new down-dings. Currently at 49 and counting. ;-)
| 654 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:20:44am |
re: #649 Dustyvet
Lol reminds me about this new Cop on the beat on the Highway patrol. Nasty accident body was ejected and most of it was there but pieces were missing so the senior officer sends him with a clipboard to locate the other parts and list where they were found. Well he finds the head on the shoulder of the road and has some problems spelling it the senior officer is looking the other way so he kicks it into the median. Lists on report head found on median.
| 656 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:24:12am |
re: #653 callahan23
Yeah, thanks for the link. Gave the post a whack myself.
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smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:25:11am |
re: #654 Rustler
Rustler, I believe the joke went like this....
Body in ditchd i t c h
legs in ditch d i t c h
head in boulevard b a l v a d
b o l o v a r d
reaches out, and kicks head into ditch
head in ditch d i t c h
| 658 |
callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:25:25am |
re: #655 smokefire
..............I just down dinged.
:D
work done well - padding my own shoulder /
Wife is calling, BBL.
| 659 |
BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:27:11am |
A Priest a Minister and a Rabbi walk into a bar, the bartender says " what is this, a Joke?"
| 660 |
Harry Tuttle Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:27:14am |
re: #651 smokefire
OK Harry, knock yourself out.
I should talk. We barbecue in all kinds of weather up here in Northeast CT. Snow, rain, sleet, cold, it don't matter. Course it's just me and the wife. And it's just an old Webber Gas Grill, so in reality, it is not REAL barbecuing. I do like watching those shows on Food Channel about the best barbecue joints in America. Too bad we don't have anything like that up here.
SF I am in Rochester NY.
[Link: www.virtualweberbullet.com...]
| 661 |
Cathypop Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:27:54am |
re: #659 BatGuano
A Priest a Minister and a Rabbi walk into a bar, the bartender says " what is this, a Joke?"
That was so bad I had to up ding you
| 662 |
UncleRancher Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:28:17am |
re: #659 BatGuano
A Priest a Minister and a Rabbi walk into a bar, the bartender says " what is this, a Joke?"
he he he he
| 663 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:28:39am |
re: #652 aboo-Hoo-Hoo I had heard that assumed I heard deficit when he said budget. After I formed the Budget assumption I figured oh good no new stimulus or bailouts this year.
| 664 |
smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:28:43am |
re: #659 BatGuano
..............it would be more like a miracle if it was
A priest, a rabbi, and a Muslim cleric walked into anywhere
| 667 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:30:21am |
re: #663 Rustler Well then again concidering who spoke it, he may have meant budget and said deficit.
| 668 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:30:55am |
re: #664 smokefire
..............it would be more like a miracle if it was
A priest, a rabbi, and a Muslim cleric walked into anywhere
Allah...Ack...a bar!
| 669 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:31:31am |
re: #664 smokefire
So a priest and an Imam walk into a bar, the rabbi ducked.
| 670 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:31:40am |
PEOPLE everywhere are talking about the Great Depression, which followed the October 1929 stock market crash and lasted until the United States entered World War II. It is a vivid story of year upon year of despair.This Depression narrative, however, is not merely a story about the past: It has started to inform our current expectations.
According to the Reuters-University of Michigan Survey of Consumers earlier this month, nearly two-thirds of consumers expected that the present downturn would last for five more years. President Obama, in his first press conference, evoked the Depression in warning of a “negative spiral” that “becomes difficult for us to get out of” and suggested the possibility of a “lost decade,” as in Japan in the 1990s.
He said Congress needed to pass an economic stimulus package — as it ultimately did — to prevent this calamity.
The attention paid to the Depression story may seem a logical consequence of our economic situation. But the retelling, in fact, is a cause of the current situation — because the Great Depression serves as a model for our expectations, damping what John Maynard Keynes called our “animal spirits,” reducing consumers’ willingness to spend and businesses’ willingness to hire and expand. The Depression narrative could easily end up as a self-fulfilling prophecy. ...
Economic View
Can Talk of a Depression Lead to One?
Looks as though we're about to find out.
| 671 |
smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:31:51am |
re: #668 Dustyvet
that was so bad, it was funny. UPDING for the Dustyvet
| 672 |
BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:32:03am |
re: #661 Cathypop
Thank you. No applause please. I'm over adored as it is. :)
| 674 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:32:36am |
| 675 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:32:48am |
re: #672 BatGuano
Down dings incoming to deflate your head :P.
| 679 |
UncleRancher Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:34:48am |
re: #670 J.D.
Yes, talk of a depression can produce one, I am convinced particularly when the new boss is talking like he wants one.
| 680 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:35:04am |
re: #678 rightside
According to Glenn Beck it's on it's last legs.
| 681 |
smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:36:01am |
| 682 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:36:03am |
re: #679 UncleRancher
More than talking like he wants one, he is actively working to so devalue the dollar that he causes one.
| 683 |
BatGuano Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:36:13am |
re: #664 smokefire
It would be more like a Priest, a Rabbi, and a Muslim...blew up.
| 684 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:36:48am |
Morning summergurl, rightside. As far as I know civilization is still here.
| 685 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:37:12am |
re: #681 smokefire
So now your trying to say Mark Twain (samuel Clemens) wrote Obama's motto.//
| 686 |
Digital Display Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:37:49am |
re: #664 smokefire
..............it would be more like a miracle if it was
A priest, a rabbi, and a Muslim cleric walked into anywhere
A priest, Rabbi and fiery preacher go fishing..They are in a boat in the middle of the lake when somebody says..We forgot the bait! The priest says no problem, gets out of the boat and walks across the water and gets the bait.. The preacher is freaking out.. The Rabbi goes..we forgot the hooks and gets out of the boat and walks on water to the shore and gets the hooks..
Well the preacher just is floored and can't take it any more..These guys can't be holier than me! So he jumps out of boat and sinks under the water and the priest and Rabbi pull him back into the boat.. But the preacher jumps right back into the lake calling upon his best faith..Still he goes under..Finally as they pulled him back into the boat the Rabbi says to the priest..' So we should tell him about the rocks before he drowns himself?'
| 688 |
UncleRancher Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:38:50am |
re: #682 Rustler
I find it refreshing to go outside and take a deep breath of clean fresh air, watch all the wildlife that are supposed to be going extinct and become amazed at nature's abundance. There is some sign of life out there in the market. Just in the past week I have seen trainloads and truckloads of lumber going down the highway for the frist time in months.
| 689 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:39:02am |
re: #685 Rustler
So now your trying to say Mark Twain (samuel Clemens) wrote Obama's motto.//
Bet you didn't know that Mark Twain had a younger brother, who made a fortune in model trains.
His name: Lional Twain...:)
| 690 |
UncleRancher Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:39:46am |
re: #688 UncleRancher
Yes, I know, trainloads don't go down the highway. My bad.
| 691 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:39:52am |
re: #679 UncleRancher
Yes, talk of a depression can produce one, I am convinced particularly when the new boss is talking like he wants one.
The New York Times isn't helpful, as per usual.
...Taking over big failed banks will be very difficult politically. But technically it could be easier than many of the elaborate rescues that have been tried and proposed.On Friday, President Obama’s spokesman tried to calm the markets by reaffirming the administration’s preference for a sound privately owned banking system. We share that preference. But it looks as if the best way to get from here to there is for some of the banks to spend some time in the government’s hands.
| 692 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:40:25am |
re: #688 UncleRancher Yeah but once he put's the Fed into overdrive to cover the spendulous bill and all his other stuff the dollar may not be worth more than toilet paper like the Argentine Peso.
| 693 |
smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:40:31am |
re: #685 Rustler
................oops totally missed that nasty word change
Slaps myself upside head with 2 X 4
| 694 |
summergurl Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:40:38am |
Michelle Malkins column today is on a stimulus protest that was held in Seattle. "Mom blogger" Keli Calender was the one who organized the ant i pork demonstration. Will have to look for her blog...
Here is a link to Michelle's column:
| 696 |
rightside Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:41:18am |
re: #684 BlueCanuck
Morning Blue. I saw your youtube vid upthread about criminals inc. I got that one at work a while back, still get a chuckle out of it.
Anyone else getting error messages from some vids saying Embedding disabled by request?
| 697 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:41:25am |
re: #689 Dustyvet
Punny way to keep the discussion on Twack.
| 699 |
summergurl Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:42:00am |
re: #684 BlueCanuck
Morning summergurl, rightside. As far as I know civilization is still here.
Depends on your interpretation of civilization.
| 701 |
smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:42:05am |
re: #689 Dustyvet
..................Lionel, now owned by..................................
any guesses here?
| 703 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:44:42am |
re: #696 rightside
Yeah I don't know what it's about unless someone is getting smart noticing his clips being put on blogs etc so asks to disable embedding code. There are workarounds from what I've heard, but I'm not sure how they work or how to do em tho.
| 704 |
yesandno Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:45:08am |
re: #670 J.D.
Economic View
Can Talk of a Depression Lead to One?
Looks as though we're about to find out.
The old 'power of suggestion'. If you face the world with optimism, life does improve. If you think everything is depressing, it will be.
| 705 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:45:13am |
Soros sees no bottom for world financial "collapse"
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Renowned investor George Soros said on Friday the world financial system has effectively disintegrated, adding that there is yet no prospect of a near-term resolution to the crisis.
Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.
He said the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers in September marked a turning point in the functioning of the market system.
"We witnessed the collapse of the financial system," Soros said at a Columbia University dinner. "It was placed on life support, and it's still on life support. There's no sign that we are anywhere near a bottom."...
| 706 |
UncleRancher Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:45:33am |
re: #701 smokefire
[Link: www.lionel.com...]
| 707 |
topazpilot Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:45:57am |
"Barack Obama is not my friend." as stated by my four year old son yesterday.
| 708 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:46:04am |
Morning Lizards!
I'm awake. The sun is out. Mr. Blonde is still fast asleep, I'm here with a huge mug of fresh coffee, and I have a cat purring in my lap.
I just can't worry about Glenn Beck's doom today.
| 709 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:46:17am |
re: #688 UncleRancher
I find it refreshing to go outside and take a deep breath of clean fresh air, watch all the wildlife that are supposed to be going extinct and become amazed at nature's abundance. There is some sign of life out there in the market. Just in the past week I have seen trainloads and truckloads of lumber going down the highway for the frist time in months.
Home sales up. Consumer prices didn't increase to nearly the percentage the "experts" predicted it would have last month (mostly due to oil prices remaining almost flat).
| 710 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:46:23am |
re: #697 Rustler
Punny way to keep the discussion on Twack.
East is east, and west is west, and never the twain shall meet...
No Twack!
/S
| 711 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:46:47am |
re: #707 topazpilot
//Did you cut his allowance to spread the wealth to the poor neighbor down the street?
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Lincolntf Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:46:59am |
re: #701 smokefire
Donald Trump? I could swear I just saw a (possibly joking) reference to this question on a TV show recently.
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Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:47:50am |
re: #707 topazpilot
Upding, just because..out of the mouths of babes and all that. Wow.
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J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:48:01am |
re: #708 Chicago Blonde
Morning Lizards!
I'm awake. The sun is out. Mr. Blonde is still fast asleep, I'm here with a huge mug of fresh coffee, and I have a cat purring in my lap.
I just can't worry about Glenn Beck's doom today.
Well, then, do Obama's, Paul Volcker's, and George Soros's doomongering do anything for ya?
If they do, you're in luck!
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:48:25am |
re: #708 Chicago Blonde
Morning Lizards!
I'm awake. The sun is out. Mr. Blonde is still fast asleep, I'm here with a huge mug of fresh coffee, and I have a cat purring in my lap.
I just can't worry about Glenn Beck's doom today.
As I told my plumber (installing a new water heater and new washer dryer in my house) and my contractor (putting in granite countertops next month) "I refuse to participate in this recession!"
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smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:48:28am |
re: #706 UncleRancher
Neil Young does still own a portion of Lionel, right?
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UncleRancher Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:48:38am |
re: #713 Chicago Blonde
I'm new here. What's an upding?
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smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:50:03am |
re: #712 Lincolntf
I read that Neil Young [Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young] purchased Lionel in the 90's.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:50:05am |
re: #717 UncleRancher
I'm new here. What's an upding?
see the red minus and the green plus signs to the right of your screename? If you dislike/ like what a post says, hit the - or + and that poster gets a DOWNDING or an UPDING
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Lincolntf Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:50:28am |
re: #716 smokefire
Neil Young! Did you happen to see the TV show that featured that line? Maybe Psych or My Name is Earl or something like that? It's driving me crazy trying to remember where I heard that.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:50:42am |
re: #717 UncleRancher top right of the comment box there is a minus sign plus sign heart and exclamation minus is downding plus is up heart saves to faves and exclamation reports post to charles and stinky for review to ban or praise the post.
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rightside Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:51:18am |
re: #703 Rustler
I don't get that. Post them on youtube for the world to see. But I don't want YOU posting them on your site, where even more people can see them.
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UncleRancher Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:51:54am |
re: #720 sattv4u2
see
the red minus and the green plus signs to the right of your screename?
If you dislike/ like what a post says, hit the - or + and that poster
gets a DOWNDING or an UPDING
Ok! I just round the "new comments" button this morning. Still feeling my around here. (need to clean glasses)
| 725 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:51:54am |
re: #717 UncleRancher
I'm new here. What's an upding?
re: #720 sattv4u2
see the red minus and the green plus signs to the right of your screename? If you dislike/ like what a post says, hit the - or + and that poster gets a DOWNDING or an UPDING
THEN ,, on your (or anyone elses) login, you can check your personal "KARMA" ,,, The total of UPINGS minus the total of DOWNDINGS you've recieved from all your posts
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smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:52:45am |
re: #721 Lincolntf
I read about it in Young's Biography [Shaky
Talk about a 700 page root canal. Very hard read, but interesting nonetheless. Found out that his father is in NHL Hall of Fame for sportswriter.
| 727 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:52:45am |
re: #714 J.D.
Ha! Not today they don't.
Tomorrow, they'll make me think how to stretch my dollar even more, how to keep my assets from being Acorned (new verb?), and if the end is nigh, I may as well get a few bottles of really nice red. Because I'm not going to be worried about fat/cholesterol/sodium any more, and will need a good wine to wash down the spaghetti carbonara I'm going to start eating (with the cheese I've hopefully procured before it's gone).
But for now....naaaaaaaah.
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Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:53:24am |
re: #723 rightside
Yeah that's the part I don't get about it. Unless maybe there are groups on youtube and some videos only available if you belong to the group or something.
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Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:54:53am |
re: #717 UncleRancher
Hi there! I'm new too, I just hatched earlier this week. Read #707, Topazpilot's son has a good head on his shoulders.
| 731 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:54:58am |
Oh oh I see activity on the beck thread another stick descending or more just laughing at last nights episode time to look.
| 732 |
rightside Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:55:35am |
re: #728 Rustler
I'm not sure either, I don't watch them much. google and all.
Maybe it's a zionist honco conspiracy?
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Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:55:53am |
A new priest at his first mass was so nervous he could hardly speak.
After mass he asked the monsignor how he had done.
The monsignor replied, "When I am worried about getting nervous on the pulpit, I put a glass of vodka next to the water glass. if I start to get nervous, I take a sip."
So next Sunday he took the monsignor's advice. At the beginning of the sermon, he got nervous and took a drink. He proceeded to talk up a storm.
Upon his return to his office after mass, he found the following note on the door:
1. Sip the Vodka, don't gulp.
2. There are 10 commandments, not 12.
3. There are 12 disciples, not 10.
4. Jesus was consecrated, not constipated.
5. Jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass.
6. We do not refer to Jesus Christ as the late J. C.
7. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not referred to as Daddy, Junior and the Spook.
8. David slew Goliath, he did not kick the shit out of him.
9. When David was hit by a rock and was knocked off his donkey,don't say he was stoned off his ass.
10. We do not refer to the cross as the "Big T."
11. When Jesus broke the bread at the Last Supper he said, "Take this and eat it for it is my body." He did not say "Eat me"
12. The Virgin Mary is not called "Mary with the Cherry,"
13. The recommended grace before a meal is not: Rub-A-Dub-Dub thanks for the grub, yeah God.
14. Next Sunday there will be a taffy pulling contest at St. Peter's, not a Peter pulling contest at St. Taffy's!
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BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:55:57am |
re: #728 Rustler
Or it may be something that Youtube does when they get complaints about the video from the owner. Say some big music group. "Sure you can keep it on Youtube, but no where else."
| 735 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:56:19am |
re: #715 sattv4u2
Oooo, granite! That sounds gorgeous!
| 736 |
smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:56:53am |
Well all, be back much later.
On way to Democratic Republic of Massachusetts for second day of Antique Show, we are set up at.
The things we do for our wives............oops better not let her see this
Later
| 737 |
UncleRancher Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:57:03am |
re: #730 Chicago Blonde
Hi there! I'm new too, I just hatched earlier this week. Read #707, Topazpilot's son has a good head on his shoulders.
I see Topazpiolot is bringing up the young'n right too.
| 738 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:58:06am |
| 739 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:58:32am |
re: #729 rightside
Hi there! How are you today?
Yeah, coffee + purring kitty = good start to day. Do you have cats?
| 740 |
smokefire Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:59:25am |
re: #733 Dustyvet
You have to be a fallen Catholic, if not then for your penance say 10 Our Fathers and 10 Hail Mary's.
ROFLAMO.
| 741 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 5:59:27am |
re: #739 Chicago Blonde
Hi there! How are you today?
Yeah, coffee + purring kitty = good start to day. Do you have cats?
I don't, but the dog had one almost cornered in the back yard yesterday.
| 742 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:00:20am |
re: #739 Chicago Blonde
Hi there! How are you today?
Yeah, coffee + purring kitty = good start to day. Do you have cats?
| 743 |
rightside Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:00:33am |
re: #739 Chicago Blonde
Great thanks, hoping to go to the outdoor shooting range today with the Mrs. RS, and break in a few new weapons.
We have two kitties.
| 745 |
Cathypop Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:00:59am |
re: #741 sattv4u2
I don't, but the dog had one almost cornered in the back yard yesterday.
My parents had a cat that would corner dogs in their backyard.
| 746 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:01:21am |
Good morning y'all from a moderate (41 degrees, going up to 48 degrees with heavy rain predicted) but currently bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
| 747 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:02:22am |
re: #745 Cathypop
My parents had a cat that would corner dogs in their backyard.
This was kinda funny. Our dog weighs only 12-13 pounds. The cat had to go about 20 lbs.
(I have NO idea what the dog would have done if it actually caught the thing!)
| 748 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:02:51am |
re: #741 sattv4u2
Oh wow, what kind of doggie?
I understand about the expense, though yeah, it's gonna be gorgeous. We have 2 cats and a Lab mix. I love them all but one cat thinks I'm Mommy and has to sit with me when I drink coffee. We had (note the past tense) nice carpet until the pets worked it over. We ripped it out last year and have critter-proof hardwood now.
Expensive...but slobber and oops-proof.
| 751 |
Rustler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:04:57am |
re: #734 BlueCanuck Not usually music I have seen that with.
| 752 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:05:17am |
A British mother who was on the run in Dubai after being found guilty of adultery has been jailed after handing herself into police.Teaching assistant Marnie Pearce now faces the prospect of never seeing her two young children again.
Marnie, 40, originally from Bracknell in Berkshire, insists she never cheated on her ex-husband Ihab El-Labban and has been framed so he could win custody of their sons Laith, seven, and Ziad, four.
Once she has served her three-month sentence, Marnie is set to be deported to the UK without her children. ...
Dubai 'adultery case' wife hands herself in to spare children
| 753 |
Cathypop Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:05:30am |
re: #747 sattv4u2
This was kinda funny. Our dog weighs only 12-13 pounds. The cat had to go about 20 lbs.
(I have NO idea what the dog would have done if it actually caught the thing!)
The same thing my cat did when he tried to stalk a deer. They both jumped into the air and ran.
| 754 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:06:00am |
G'day from Down Under to {everyone}!
Oh joy..it's Monday here :-(
As I didn't win Lotto, and no rich distant rellies have fallen off the perch lately and left me their fortunes I reckon I'd better go to work today....
| 755 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:06:14am |
re: #746 realwest
Hey I'm glad your eyes are better. What was it? ... if you don't mind my asking...
| 756 |
Tigger2005 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:06:17am |
re: #3 Silvergirl
Is it safe?
Is what safe?
(Silvergirl takes out dental drill)
Yes, it's safe. I don't know what it is, but it's very safe!
| 757 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:06:35am |
re: #748 Chicago Blonde
Oh wow, what kind of doggie?
A mutt (like me). I think he's part Westie and part Jack Russell. We used to have a Westie (got him when he was 4 months old ,, had him till he died at 15 years)
| 758 |
Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:07:12am |
re: #746 realwest
Good morning y'all from a moderate (41 degrees, going up to 48 degrees with heavy rain predicted) but currently bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
Currently a brisk pre-dawn 54 here in Phoenix with expected high of 81 with sunny (surprise, surprise) skies expected. It is too early for 80's, no fair
| 759 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:07:40am |
re: #746 realwest
Good morning y'all from a moderate (41 degrees, going up to 48 degrees with heavy rain predicted) but currently bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
*Smooch* darls, and it's a coolish night here although we're supposedly in line for a hot day today
How are you doing ? And your Mum?
| 762 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:10:37am |
re: #757 sattv4u2
He sounds adorable. Ours is Lab/something, very sweet.
I still have no idea how three small creatures can wreak such havoc on a whole landing of carpet....
| 763 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:11:04am |
re: #755 J.D. Hi {J.D.}! I hope you're doing well today!
Well it was only one eye, but it is the only eye with which I can read anything at all - been like that since birth. And it was frequently, but not always "irritated" as if I had something in it - but I didn't.
The Optometrist said that one of the upper eyelashes on that eye had been "permanently bent" so that every once in a while it would brush across my eyeball. So he pulled the offending eyelash, charged me $65 and I was outta there!
How are you doing?
| 764 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:11:29am |
| 765 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:11:54am |
| 766 |
Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:12:05am |
So, what are the hot topics on this mornings open thread?
| 767 |
bellamags Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:12:19am |
| 770 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:14:30am |
re: #758 Desert Dog
Hi there Desert Dog "expected high of 81 with sunny (surprise, surprise) skies expected. It is too early for 80's, no fair".
Uh huh. Listen, get back to us all this August would ya? Especially because it's not the heat it's the humidity, right?
:)
| 771 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:14:58am |
re: #763 {realwest}
That was easy enough! Good thing you didn't go to the emergency room after all!
I'm well, thanks... either going to a golf tournament or going out to hit a few myself... haven't decided yet...
| 772 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:15:57am |
| 773 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:16:38am |
re: #758 Desert Dog
Morning!
*Looking at snow in her yard*
That sounds so good to me right now....
| 774 |
summergurl Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:16:44am |
Found the blog that Michelle Malkin is referring to -
Third post down is a video - check it out - song is okay but the signs are a riot.
| 775 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:17:03am |
Four dead in Gaza tunnel collapse
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
| 776 |
Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:17:28am |
re: #770 realwest
Actually, in August, in addition to the lovely 105-120 temps, we get the extra added bonus of the "monsoonal" patterns that bring afternoon thunderstorms and increased humidity. Not quite on a tropical level, but when the temperature in the shade is 110 and the humidity is over 50%, that really sucks....it's moments like that when everyone who lives here asks themselves....WHY do I live here....
| 777 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:17:39am |
re: #759 aussiemagpie
Hey there {aussie} Me and mom are doing ok, thanks for asking! Sorry to hear it's such a cold early morning over there - what is it, about 75?!
Tell ya what, send a photo of yourself to Al Gore and SUGGEST that the two of you might have some "fun" togehter, that way when he shows up you're hot weather will turn to Winter IMMEDIATELY. Then you can say "hey, that was fun, thanks Al!" LOL!
*Smooches* back to you!
Hey, how's Julie doing these days?
| 778 |
Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:18:55am |
re: #775 Dustyvet
Four dead in Gaza tunnel collapse
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Any word on the goat count?
| 779 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:19:05am |
Heroic age of US newspapers ends with a whimper
Now the much larger, far more critical task...separation of MfM & State.
chop-chop.
| 780 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:19:10am |
re: #761 LindaMarie
Good morning/afternoon/whatever to you! How's life over there these days? What do you hear around the rumor mill about President Obama's intentions out you're way?
| 781 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:20:21am |
| 782 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:20:54am |
re: #765 Dustyvet
ZVIKA KRIEGER says Dubai's demise would be a setback
Of all the victims of the global financial crisis, Dubai and its neighboring states are receiving little sympathy.
Altogether now... Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
The oil-rich Persian Gulf emirate, which until recently had been a glitzy boomtown attracting fortune-seekers from across the globe, is reported to be canceling 1,500 work visas every day. Its real-estate market has dropped 30% or more over the past few months.
Their indoor ski slopes have earned these sheikhdoms few friends. Los Angeles Times columnist Rosa Brooks shed no tears that "Dubai may be going down," finding it "hard not to be revolted" by a state that "doesn't really produce anything of value" but is a playground for "cold-eyed Russian oligarchs, coked-out London pop stars and the spoiled princelings of global finance." News reports have been dripping with schadenfreude. Newsweek recently bid "Goodbye, Dubai" on its cover, while Time wondered if the Gulf collapse means "no more Palm Islands?" In response to Dubai's decision to deny a visa to Israeli tennis player Shahar Pe'er, New York Times columnist Harvey Araton gloated, "Just like that, the glitter and promise of Dubai as an emerging international sports center evaporated into the cool desert night."...
| 783 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:21:45am |
re: #771 J.D. Well, I obviously can't speak for ya, but I'd druther play golf myself than watch it being played. By a lot! So if your shoulder's ok and all, why don't you go whack a few yourself?!
| 784 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:21:50am |
re: #775 Dustyvet
Four dead in Gaza tunnel collapse
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
New York Times will soon have (doctored) photos of Israeli children jumping up and down above the tunnel moments before it's collapse.
//
| 785 |
cato Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:22:39am |
Charles, Sharmuta or Salamantis:
It just struck me that the rate of species change must be different depending on the specific environmental conditions. What I don't understand is when the rate is faster and when it is slower. Do you know of any studies on this issue?
| 786 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:22:53am |
re: #783 realwest
Well, I obviously can't speak for ya, but I'd druther play golf myself than watch it being played. By a lot! So if your shoulder's ok and all, why don't you go whack a few yourself?!
getting a tad personal, no !?!?!?!
//
| 787 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:23:12am |
re: #783 realwest
That's the conclusion I think I've come to...besides it's an old guys' tournament.
You know... guys my age... lol
| 788 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:25:25am |
re: #777 realwest
Hey there {aussie} Me and mom are doing ok, thanks for asking! Sorry to hear it's such a cold early morning over there - what is it, about 75?!
Tell ya what, send a photo of yourself to Al Gore and SUGGEST that the two of you might have some "fun" togehter, that way when he shows up you're hot weather will turn to Winter IMMEDIATELY. Then you can say "hey, that was fun, thanks Al!" LOL!
*Smooches* back to you!
Hey, how's Julie doing these days?
LOL! Algore can stay well away from here while we still enjoy a bit of warmth!
Good to see your eye problem was fixed :-)
Thanks for asking about Julie - next month marks the 2nd anniversay of her NOT having a hospital admission, so we're all very happy about that
She's still taking buckets of medications, but they're all working well with no side effects
And I don't miss the drive into town to get to the hospital either :-)
| 789 |
Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:25:28am |
re: #779 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Heroic age of US newspapers ends with a whimper
Now the much larger, far more critical task...separation of MfM & State.
chop-chop.
I would not say that the "Golden Age" of American Newspapers ended in a whimper, rather it ended in a slow spiraling death of every increasing Moonbattery and left leaning idiocy, similar to a turd spinning round in the toilet before being cast down into the sewer. Newspapers have been someone replaced by technology, no doubt, but they all leaned so far to the left, they slit their own throats as well....I would argue that the entire MSM is guilty of the same "crime".....and, what is truly laughable, is that if you ask one of these media types at a newspaper or TV News Station, they will all still cling to the belief that they are still "impartial and fair journalists".
| 790 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:25:30am |
re: #787 J.D.
That's the conclusion I think I've come to...besides it's an old guys' tournament.
You know... guys my age... lol
Oh neat, another veteran of the Battle of Gettysburg...:)
/S
| 791 |
topazpilot Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:25:47am |
haha, what allowance? he has to do something, other than be cute, to earn it! though, he does make one fine mess.re: #711 Rustler
| 792 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:28:13am |
re: #786 sattv4u2
getting a tad personal, no !?!?!?!
//
real and I go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back... before the dawn of time...
/let's don't go down the road exploring how that occurred [too early]
:-)
| 793 |
topazpilot Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:28:26am |
re: #713 Chicago Blonde
I know! It's not like I'm even coaching him or anything. I think he's just picking it up from what I listen to, but I did have to give him a high five when I heard it. My liberal ex-wife was not as amused! That made it even more priceless.
| 794 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:28:38am |
re: #787 J.D.
Your age? Shoot - that'd be a tournament for youngin's I reckon!
But better to go play than watch! Have fun, that's the most important thing (other than keeping your head down, your "lead" arm straight and making sure you're stance is correct, I mean!)!
| 795 |
Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:29:26am |
re: #782 J.D.
Living in an area that is known for booms and busts, I could see Dubai's future a mile away. As that article state, they make nothing, they create nothing. Everyone should have know that you cannot sustain this kind of growth forever
All of those shiny new skyscrapers will be a testament to wishful thinking.
| 796 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:30:22am |
| 797 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:30:32am |
re: #788 aussiemagpie
Hey! That's just some wonderful news about Julie! Mazel Tov!
But how about YOURSELF - how are you doing this morning?
| 798 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:31:12am |
re: #790 Dustyvet
Good morning Dusty! How are you doing this morning?
| 800 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:33:10am |
re: #798 realwest
Good morning Dusty! How are you doing this morning?
Having some issues with pain since about 2:30 am, trying to hang in there. How's you and your mom doing? Did you receive my email?
| 801 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:34:05am |
re: #794 realwest
Your age? Shoot - that'd be a tournament for youngin's I reckon!
But better to go play than watch! Have fun, that's the most important thing (other than keeping your head down, your "lead" arm straight and making sure you're stance is correct, I mean!)!
But of course! LOL!
I am!
(then there's your grip, shifting your weight, the takeback, the follow-through... )
| 802 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:34:39am |
re: #785 cato
I don't have the links handy, but there have been cases of recent lizards (real ones, not us) on islands actually changing within years. I believe one species is on a Meditrennian island, and the other is in Bermuda. Yes, the greater the stress, the greater the need, the faster the change.
| 803 |
LindaMarie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:35:32am |
Evening all from cloudy (was snowing) Kabul.
The glass is half full. It sre: #780 realwest
topped snowing for now.
re: #780 realwest
Only what I read on the internet. The only news channels here are BBC and CNN so I watch Animal Planet. One of the problems with that is when it is evening here it is the middle of the night here - and Animal Planets Funnist is not very funny
| 804 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:36:20am |
re: #802 BlueCanuck
I don't have the links handy, but there have been cases of recent lizards (real ones, not us) on islands actually changing within years. I believe one species is on a Meditrennian island, and the other is in Bermuda. Yes, the greater the stress, the greater the need, the faster the change.
Gee, on Friday night this lizard turned into a bar:p...
/S
| 806 |
Luigi Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:37:29am |
While he was Chairman of the Democratic Party, Rhambo may have been living rent free in a swank DC apartment owned by a Dem Congresswoman while he was handing huge Democratic Party polling contracts to the Congresswoman's husband.
| 807 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:37:58am |
re: #803 LindaMarie
Evening all from cloudy (was snowing) Kabul.The glass is half full. It s
topped snowing for now.
re: #780 realwestOnly what I read on the internet. The only news channels here are BBC and CNN so I watch Animal Planet. One of the problems with that is when it is evening here it is the middle of the night here - and Animal Planets Funnist is not very funny
on the TV or thru the window?
| 808 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:39:04am |
re: #805 Chicago Blonde
"But you aren't one now."
/Ah Monty Python. Isn't there any time when you bring a smile to my face?
| 809 |
Desert Dog Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:39:39am |
re: #806 Luigi
While he was Chairman of the Democratic Party, Rhambo may have been living rent free in a swank DC apartment owned by a Dem Congresswoman while he was handing huge Democratic Party polling contracts to the Congresswoman's husband.
Well, let's just be thankful that Obama's administration is the most ethical and transparent the USA has ever seen.....
/
| 810 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:40:21am |
re: #800 Dustyvet
Mom and I are doing ok, thanks. I didn't receive any e-mail from you - what do you mean "pain issues"? Cripes, not like in '01 I hope!
| 811 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:40:29am |
re: #806 Luigi
Thank you for posting that.
/...But aren't ethics only for us little people?
| 812 |
Irish Rose Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:40:46am |
Good morning, from the snowy north.
Another 8 inches of global warming dumped on my location over the weekend, and it's still coming down. We're currently under whiteout conditions.
/please God, make it stop.
| 813 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:41:12am |
re: #795 Desert Dog
They might consider a few rather basic changes in their "philosophy".
| 814 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:42:17am |
re: #808 BlueCanuck
Love Python. My favorite bit is the leaves in The Meaning of Life. The first time I saw that I was laughing so hard I couldn't get air into my lungs. Scared my poor mom, she thought I was sobbing. Played it for her and she just howled too...
| 815 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:43:12am |
re: #803 LindaMarie Ah, well then, allow me to fill you in: Obama has ordered 17,000 more combat troops (Army and Marines) into Afghanistan while saying that the war there is too expensive and might have to be scaled back.
So you see, you don't have to get any news channels there to be as confused as are we! LOL!
I do hope that you are doing well.
| 816 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:43:14am |
re: #810 realwest
Mom and I are doing ok, thanks. I didn't receive any e-mail from you - what do you mean "pain issues"? Cripes, not like in '01 I hope!
No, arthritic problems in neck. In regard to email, that's the 6th email this week that's gone missing in transit, thinking it's time to find a new server...:(
| 817 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:44:18am |
re: #797 realwest
Hey! That's just some wonderful news about Julie! Mazel Tov!
But how about YOURSELF - how are you doing this morning?
I'm feeling great, especially after going shopping and buying some new shoes - nothing like a bit of new shoe therapy :-)
And I did need new shoes, my ex is getting married on Saturday and I like dressing up nicely for a wedding
I wanted to be bridesmaid but he said no! :-)
| 818 |
LindaMarie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:45:34am |
A select listing of directions to Kabul resturants.
If they ever repaint the guard houses or more the cement barriers the resturants will go bust.
RED HOT & SIZZLIN'
Location: Microyan; Best bet the first time is to go with someone who's been there. But if you must, come from Wazir on the main road through Massoud circle, straight through the Jalalabad road circle and come across the river. Take the first right and go down until the end of the Russian apartment buildings on your left. Make a left at the new shopping center with the pizza place on the corner. Make a left at the next traffic circle. Slow down. The first gate on the right will have a red chili pepper hanging up on a pole. That's it. Good luck.
SHANDIZ
Location: Wazir Akbar Khan; Pakistan Embassy Street, down before the barricades on the left
SAMARQAND
Location: Qala Musa; Turn right at Charyi Haji Yakub, go down the street past the birdcage then make the first left. Make the first right and it's down a block on the right. Big grey gate.
CORNER PIZZERIA
Location: Wazir Akbar Khan; Swing around main circle and put The Grill on your right, head down the barricaded street to almost the end. You'll see big misspelled banners showing you the way.
GANDAMACK
Location: Shar-e Now; Between DHL and the Mustafa across the street from the secret police office.
POPOLANO
Location: Shar-e Now; Toilet Street between Charyi Ansari and Ministry of Interior Street
LE BISTRO
Location: Shar-e Now. Behind Ministry of Interior, on the street parallel to Chicken Street. Coming down from the Kabul City Center with the Park on your left, make a right on the street at the end of the park, across from the gas station, then make the next left. If you survive the ride down this street for a long block you'll see the sign for Le Bistro hanging at the corner where you'll make the right turn, then the restaurant is on your right.
No building or house numbers. No post office service either.
| 819 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:45:59am |
re: #816 Dustyvet
((Dustyvet))
I'm sorry about the neck pain and the server.
| 822 |
topazpilot Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:47:01am |
re: #805 Chicago Blonde
I will always upding a monty python reference!
| 823 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:47:36am |
re: #819 Chicago Blonde
((Dustyvet))
I'm sorry about the neck pain and the server.
Thanks. Do you use SBC Global by chance?
| 824 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:49:51am |
re: #816 Dustyvet Whew, not that arthiritic neck pain is fun or anything, but it coulda been worse my friend. Hey, why doncha copy the e-mail from your "sent" files and try sending it again (and then call your e-mail carrier - I hope for your sake it's not Earthlink - and either get the issue resolved or get a new e-mail server!)?
Do you have any "happy pills" to help you with the neck pain?
| 825 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:50:04am |
re: #821 LindaMarie
Animal Planet or the snow or both?
I watch animal planet in my bathroom...where the mighty litter kicker lurks...:) If I don't sweep up after the little sod, my bathroom floor becomes a gravel drive way.
| 826 |
LindaMarie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:50:10am |
re: #815 realwest
That I read on the Internet. The "truce" in the swat valley is what I worry about.
It will not stop there. Radical Islam I mean.
| 827 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:50:55am |
| 828 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:51:26am |
re: #817 aussiemagpie
Hey I'm kinda surprised he even invited you to the wedding...........and more surprised that you're going!
Any excuse for new shoes, eh?! LOL!
| 829 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:51:59am |
re: #824 realwest
Whew, not that arthiritic neck pain is fun or anything, but it coulda been worse my friend. Hey, why doncha copy the e-mail from your "sent" files and try sending it again (and then call your e-mail carrier - I hope for your sake it's not Earthlink - and either get the issue resolved or get a new e-mail server!)?
Do you have any "happy pills" to help you with the neck pain?
I got cut off those:( I was issued a Tens Unit by the VA, and acetaminophen.
| 830 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:53:36am |
| 831 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:53:39am |
re: #826 LindaMarie
What? Whatever could go wrong with that "truce"?!?
IIRC, the swat area has NEVER been controlled by anyone other than warlords in the first place, and everyone knows how much you can trust a warlord, right?
/
| 832 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:54:53am |
re: #829 Dustyvet
acetaminophen is just Tylenol, what's a Tens Unit?
| 833 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:55:24am |
re: #823 Dustyvet
No, no SBC Global.
The Mighty Litter Kicker? That's awesome! I know, how can such a little critter sling such a wide path of gravel?
| 834 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:56:31am |
re: #822 topazpilot
What's your favorite? I love Meaning of Life; the Crimson Permanent Assurance sequences and the Leaves just do it for me.
| 835 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:57:00am |
re: #829 Dustyvet
I got cut off those:( I was issued a Tens Unit by the VA, and acetaminophen.
I love my Tens Unit.
Have you tried Celebrex?
| 836 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:57:37am |
re: #831 realwest
What? Whatever could go wrong with that "truce"?!?
IIRC, the swat area has NEVER been controlled by anyone other than warlords in the first place, and everyone knows how much you can trust a warlord, right?
/
I remember when braking a ceasefire was called a violation. You know penalty flags all over the place...5 yard penaltys doe roughing the VC.
/s
| 837 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 6:58:18am |
re: #835 J.D.
I love my Tens Unit.
Have you tried Celebrex?
Yes, but with heart trouble the VA won't give me that anymore...:(
| 839 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:00:30am |
re: #832 realwest
acetaminophen is just Tylenol, what's a Tens Unit?
It's an electronic device that sort of gives little zaps of electricity through leads.
| 840 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:01:12am |
re: #832 realwest
acetaminophen is just Tylenol, what's a Tens Unit?
Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation Units
| 841 |
Luigi Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:01:27am |
Obama's instinct seems to be to surround himself with politicians who are already politically crippled. He does not seem to trust honest people. By surrounding himself with crippled politicians he knows they will never raise their voices no matter what he does because they're just like he is, and he knows he doesn't need much of a reason to throw them away, and will look like a hero when he does.
I look forward to the day when they put Obama under oath and ask him anything! Ask him what time it is. He'll lie.
The Constitution defines impeachment at the federal level and limits impeachment to "The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States" who may only be impeached and removed for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".
Maybe Rezko will yet be this guy's downfall.
| 842 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:02:13am |
re: #779 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Heroic age of US newspapers ends with a whimper
Now the much larger, far more critical task...separation of MfM & State.
chop-chop.
Here in Boulder, CO the front page of our Newspaper-- The Boulder Daily Camera-- has an article about how CU students were polled and they are really upset, dude, that "The Dark Knight" wasn't nominated for best picture.
"Dark Knight was robbed, man" . Hard to imagine why so many newspapers are failing.
| 843 |
Chicago Blonde Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:02:51am |
*reluctantly pulling herself away*
Goodbye everyone, I have stuff I need to do (but would rather be here)...if I don't see you later today I should be back tomorrow.
| 844 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:03:39am |
re: #843 Chicago Blonde
*reluctantly pulling herself away*
Goodbye everyone, I have stuff I need to do (but would rather be here)...if I don't see you later today I should be back tomorrow.
Bye Chicago...take care...:)
| 845 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:04:55am |
Good Morning all. Attorney General Eric Holder wishes this nation of 'cowards" a great Sunday.
| 846 |
Teacake! Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:05:16am |
Just heard on the radio news that 5 pallies were found dead in a gaza tunnel - suffocated because they crammed each other in and couldn't move. (lol)
| 848 |
gettinby Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:06:23am |
re: #840 J.D.
Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation Units
Sounds sexy!
/Seriously, though, I'm glad for you that it helps with your pain.
//Wasn't our new President supposed to do away with our pain?
Good morning all.
Hiya {realwest}!
| 849 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:07:10am |
re: #839 Dustyvet
Whoa - electrical stimulation to where - your neck?! Isn't that sorta, ah, risky business for you? I mean there are OTHER forms of pain medication than Tylenol or Tens Units, even if the VA hasn't heard about 'em yet!
| 850 |
ziggyelman Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:07:33am |
Jindal, everyone's fav gov, ;) is on Meet the Press now.
| 851 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:08:18am |
Morning gettinby. How's things down where you are?
| 852 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:08:49am |
re: #847 Geepers
:-O
Well, I'll be.
Fancy seeing you here! lol
I'm doing well, thanks.
How it going?
| 853 |
gettinby Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:09:22am |
| 854 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:09:35am |
re: #846 Teacake!
Just heard on the radio news that 5 pallies were found dead in a gaza tunnel - suffocated because they crammed each other in and couldn't move. (lol)
Sending one of those horse shoe shaped deals with a blue ribbon with Gold letters that reads:
GOOD LUCK IN YOUR NEW LOCATION!
/S
| 855 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:10:22am |
re: #845 opnion
Good morning opnion! Say, why is it that Holder's comments remind me SO MUCH of Jimmy Carter's Maliasse Speech?
I mean, it's at least unseemly to claim that a nation which has a Black President and a Black Attorney General is full of cowardice when it comes to racial issues, doncha think?
| 856 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:11:21am |
| 857 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:11:48am |
re: #847 Geepers
Hey Geepers! How the heck are you? Haven't seen you around much lately........unless of course we're working different schedules!
Seriously, how are you my friend?
| 858 |
Geepers Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:12:08am |
J.D. (#852),
Doin just fine.
Getting ready for a weeks vacation in Colodado skiing.
| 859 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:12:20am |
re: #828 realwest
Hey I'm kinda surprised he even invited you to the wedding...........and more surprised that you're going!
Any excuse for new shoes, eh?! LOL!
Luckily we've had a divorce made in heaven :-) We've been good mates for a long time - it's been 14 years :-)
Plus he's marrying one of my good friends!
| 860 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:13:02am |
re: #853 gettinby
{BlueCanuck}!
Hi good lookin'!
Married yet?
MARRIED! Perish the thought. Tried it once and it's going to be awhile till I try it again. ;)
| 861 |
gettinby Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:13:05am |
Is aussiemagpie still here?
Hello {aussie}!
So glad to hear the good news about Julie. You and your family deserve all the good things in life.
/still missing the good ol' days of the DDT? I do. LOL
| 862 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:13:06am |
| 863 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:13:11am |
re: #848 gettinby
Hey hi there {gettinby} - how are you doing? Mom and I are ok.
| 864 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:13:41am |
re: #859 aussiemagpie
Luckily we've had a divorce made in heaven :-) We've been good mates for a long time - it's been 14 years :-)
Plus he's marrying one of my good friends!
Did you see my question?...:)
| 865 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:14:33am |
re: #830 Dustyvet
Magpie are you near Sydney?
Hi, Dustyvet!
Yes we live in a suburb of Sydney, about 20kms SW of the city :-)
| 866 |
Geepers Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:15:07am |
Morning realwest.
Been keepin' busy so I don't get a lot of time online.
| 867 |
gettinby Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:15:07am |
re: #858 Geepers
J.D. (#852),
Doin just fine.
Getting ready for a weeks vacation in Colodado skiing.
Ohhhh....fun!
Which mountain(s)?
We lived in Basalt (just a weebit down mountain from Aspen) for a short while. Gorgeous country.
| 868 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:15:27am |
re: #865 aussiemagpie
Hi, Dustyvet!
Yes we live in a suburb of Sydney, about 20kms SW of the city :-)
Could you help with something?
| 869 |
gettinby Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:16:33am |
re: #860 BlueCanuck
MARRIED! Perish the thought. Tried it once and it's going to be awhile till I try it again. ;)
I'm one-for-three. Finally figured out how to make it work I think.
You doing okay? Job still the same-old, same-old?
| 870 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:16:37am |
re: #848 gettinby
Sounds sexy!
/Seriously, though, I'm glad for you that it helps with your pain.
//Wasn't our new President supposed to do away with our pain?Good morning all.
Hiya {realwest}!
Thanks. It really does work or, when you are really miserable, help.
I wouldn't say it is sexy..., although...
| 871 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:16:43am |
re: #855 realwest
Good morning opnion! Say, why is it that Holder's comments remind me SO MUCH of Jimmy Carter's Maliasse Speech?
I mean, it's at least unseemly to claim that a nation which has a Black President and a Black Attorney General is full of cowardice when it comes to racial issues, doncha think?
Good morning right back at ya Real. Holder exhibits the attitude that nothing will ever be good enough. The election of a Black President is not good enough, four decades of tremendously expensive entitlement & set aside programs, not good enouigh.
It is becuse of people like Holder that there can't be an honest discussion about race. If you start form any position other than WHite Guilt, that is by definition racist to people like Holder.
| 872 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:19:02am |
re: #858 Geepers
J.D. (#852),
Doin just fine.
Getting ready for a weeks vacation in Colodado skiing.
And just what do you know about skiing? lol
Sounds like a plan. Enjoy! [I'm sure you will.]
| 873 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:19:05am |
re: #866 Geepers
AHA! I KNEW IT ! You have a real life, don't you?!? I just knew it!
LOL.
Well, I'm glad you are busy and I'm glad to see/hear from you any time.
| 874 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:19:21am |
re: #869 gettinby
Job is the same, but things could be worse. I could be unemployed.
| 875 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:20:39am |
re: #862 FrogMarch
The face of corruption, tax cheating and Freddie Mac money grubbing.
pretty concise...I'm so overstimulated I can barely keep up...I did not know FM was fines by the SEC...etc etc etc...
| 876 |
gettinby Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:20:52am |
re: #863 realwest
Soooo glad you and mom are doing okay. As you've probably noticed, my emails have even started to slack off some. Miss it.
I get here what little I can to catch up on the real news, without having to slog thru the garbage to find out what's really going on.
Right now, I'm looking for a good deal on a new laptop for Mr. GBy. His 4-yo Compaq 17" POS has totally crashed - kablooey. Not even enough time to give it CPR for a partial rescue. LOL
| 878 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:23:18am |
Ed Rendell is on FNC with Chris Wallace right now. He is defending the Obama stimuluis plan, not because it's all that good, but because it's 'Better than what Bush did."
Man, the Libs miss Viet Nam & Bush.
| 879 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:23:56am |
re: #871 opnion
"It is becuse of people like Holder that there can't be an honest discussion about race. If you start form any position other than WHite Guilt, that is by definition racist to people like Holder."
Amen to that one. I'd still like to ask Obama (well, I'd like to ask him a lot of things, but this in particular) when is the US going to cut all ties with African and Arab states that currently still permit slavery? Even just as a "show" that we find this slavery reprehensible?
| 880 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:03am |
Anyone seen anything about this anywhere else?
Dodd's 'Cottage': A Cozy Purchase
| 881 |
songbird Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:04am |
The sun arises
A cup of tea restores me
LGF beckons!
Good Morning, Lizards!
| 882 |
goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:40am |
re: #881 songbird
The sun arises
A cup of tea restores me
LGF beckons!Good Morning, Lizards!
{songbird}
| 883 |
LindaMarie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:41am |
re: #846 Teacake!
I differ over the lol.
Death is never funny.
It can be sad, it can be welcomed and it may even be somehow deservered.
It is not funny.. ever.
My opinion
| 884 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:41am |
Stock market advice...
Stock market will tank again Wed. Reason, Obama is speaking to a joint meeting of congress Tues. night. Sell, or but, or don't do anything, it doesn't matter. Financial advice from It Doesn't Matter Financial Services.
| 885 |
Geepers Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:24:42am |
U.S. officials are furious with the United Nations for its role in Hamas' attempt to enlist U.S. Sen John Kerry to transfer a letter from the Palestinian militant group to President Obama during Kerry's trip to the Middle East,Kerry turned the letter over to the U.S. consulate in Jerusalem on Friday, saying he was unaware that it was from Hamas until hearing about the letter in media reports,
U.S. officials in Jerusalem are outraged at the United Nations Relief and Works agency for apparently handing the letter off to Kerry.
The Hamas official who wrote the letter confirmed to FOX News that he wrote Obama personally, asking him not to be biased toward Israel in its conflict with the Palestinians and to act fairly. He also said Hamas is ready to talk directly to a new American administration.
Kerry's still completely clueless. And the UN is still in bed with the terrorists.
Some things never change.
| 886 |
abolitionist Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:25:34am |
Blast in China coal mine kills 74
Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:58am EST
BEIJING (Reuters) - A blast in a coal mine killed 74 miners in China's Shanxi province on Sunday and scores more were rescued after being trapped underground for hours, Xinhua news agency reported.
[snip]The gas explosion happened the day after senior provincial officials held a conference about mine safety, in which they pledged to try to put an end to deadly mining accidents.
| 887 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:26:04am |
re: #885 Geepers
Kerry's still completely clueless. And the UN is still in bed with the terrorists. Some things never change.
What the fuck did he think it was, a recipe for falafel?
| 888 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:26:06am |
re: #885 Geepers
Kerry's still completely clueless. And the UN is still in bed with the terrorists.
Some things never change.
But Kerry is one heck of a windsurfer for a guy his age!
| 889 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:26:07am |
re: #861 gettinby
Is aussiemagpie still here?
Hello {aussie}!
So glad to hear the good news about Julie. You and your family deserve all the good things in life.
/still missing the good ol' days of the DDT? I do. LOL
{gettinby} G'day!
Yes the good old days....and I can't believe that sometimes I used to stay up ALL night posting on LGF and then go to work!
Loved those days *sigh*
People move on and others get the stick I suppose....but it's so good to see some of us oldies still hanging around - though it has been lovely meeting new lizards too :-)
Thanks for thinking about Julie too, it''s now hard to imagine that life of going to hospital every evening, then posting here,sleeping for a bit, working....
The support from all my LGF friends really helped me :-)
| 891 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:27:44am |
re: #876 gettinby
Well shoot - with prices dropping like a rock, y'all ought to be able to get a GREAT laptop for him. I'd check out HP if I were you - I love, LOVE my new desktop PC made by them. IF y'all have a Best Buy somewhere near you, and can find some time, head on over and check 'em out - usually good pricing and great selection!
| 892 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:28:25am |
re: #877 goddessoftheclassroom Good morning {goddess} - I hope you're doing well today?
| 893 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:28:38am |
re: #879 realwest
"It is becuse of people like Holder that there can't be an honest discussion about race. If you start form any position other than WHite Guilt, that is by definition racist to people like Holder."
Amen to that one. I'd still like to ask Obama (well, I'd like to ask him a lot of things, but this in particular) when is the US going to cut all ties with African and Arab states that currently still permit slavery? Even just as a "show" that we find this slavery reprehensible?
That would be an excellent question, but do you think that he would answer it directly? I think that he would stutter & stammer & go into some obfuscation about an inter-dependent world, blah , blah.
| 894 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:28:50am |
re: #864 Dustyvet
Did you see my question?...:)
Yes.... don't be so impatient! You're dealing with a two finger typist here :-)
| 895 |
Geepers Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:29:50am |
gettinby (#867),
Which mountain(s)?
Breckenridge.
We lived in Basalt (just a weebit down mountain from Aspen) for a short while. Gorgeous country.
No doubt. I lived in Basalt back when I was working for Aspen Skier Services. And yes, gorgeous country.
| 896 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:29:52am |
Which side of the war would you like to be on? [Mark Steyn]
Old-fashioned types might think that those Britons - okay, make that "Britons" - helping to manufacture bombs for the Taliban are engaged in an act of treason. But, as a current court case in Quebec helps clarify, giving support to the Queen's enemies in their attempts to kill your compatriots is now just another vibrant, colorful manifestation of cultural diversity.
As the International Free Press Society notes, Said Namouh is on trial up north for aiding and abetting terrorism. The Crown charges that Mr Namouh distributed jihadist snuff videos, offered advice on bomb-making, volunteered his expertise for a planned truck bombing, and threatened governnments (including Canada's) with troops in Afghanistan. Defense counsel René Duvall doesn't deny any of this, but says his client's enthusiasm for violent jihad is protected on grounds of freedom of religion and (mirthless chuckle from your humble typist) Canadians' cherished right to freedom of expression. As Maître Duvall put it outside the court, "Where do you draw the line?"
In fact, the line seems to be pretty clear: If a jihadist says he wants to kill Canadian troops, he's just exercising his right to freedom of religion. If I quote what he said in Canada's biggest-selling news weekly, we'll be charged with "flagrant Islamophobia" and hauled up in court. ...
| 897 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:30:01am |
re: #893 opnion
That would be an excellent question, but do you think that he would answer it directly? I think that he would stutter & stammer & go into some obfuscation about an inter-dependent world, blah , blah.
don't let him...pin his ass to the floor and demand a straight answer...right...pass the green cheese
| 898 |
gettinby Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:30:32am |
re: #889 aussiemagpie
The support from all my LGF friends really helped me :-)
LGF is an amazing site, isn't it!?
| 899 |
goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:30:35am |
{real}
{gettinby}
{aussiemagpie}
{Walter L. Newton}
{J.D.}
{abolitionist}
{LindaMarie}
{Geepers}
I'm fine, thanks!
| 900 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:30:49am |
re: #884 Walter L. Newton
Good morning Walter! "It Doesn't Matter Financial Services" at last, truth in advertising!
:)
| 902 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:31:21am |
| 903 |
Kenneth Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:31:37am |
Good morning folks... two interesting reports, taken together make for some disturbing conclusions:
First this,
Last month, during the transition between the Bush and Obama Administrations, there was a major homeland security "war game." For two-and-a half hours on a day in mid-January, senior federal officials reacted to a series of simulated, terrorist bombings across the country, responding to medical needs, managing the investigative process and ensuring that protective forces were deployed.The exercise was unique for a couple of reasons. First, the Bush team allowed their Obama counterparts to "sit in" on the exercise and ask questions, giving them a foundation for their own drills and policies in the future. Secondly, the war game scenario was based on a familiar threat, one that remains at the forefront of homeland security concerns. ..., the half-day exercise condensed two days of IED attacks, targeting economic and transportation centers across America.
And this...
Is Your Neighborhood on Terror Hit List?
Mumbai terrorists 'had 320 targets around world'
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gettinby Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:31:46am |
| 907 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:32:27am |
re: #899 goddessoftheclassroom
{real}
{gettinby}
{aussiemagpie}
{Walter L. Newton}
{J.D.}
{abolitionist}
{LindaMarie}
{Geepers}I'm fine, thanks!
Morning. Goddessoftheclassroom, or as I like to shorten it to Godessone.
| 908 |
topazpilot Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:32:45am |
re: #834 Chicago Blonde
I'm a huge fan of the Holy Grail and much of Life of Brian, especially the stoning scene "All I said was this halibut was good enough for Jehovah" or something along those lines. In skits nothing beats the Dead Parrot, paying for an argument, vikings eating spam "but I don't like spam!," and the spanish inquisition. I don't know why but the fish slapping dance always gives me a good chuckle. I have a movie poster framed of the crucifixion scene at the end of Life of Brian on my living room wall. It shows Graham Chapman with his jeans around his ankles and Eric Idle sporting a pair of converse.
| 909 |
Geepers Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:33:43am |
realwest (#873),
AHA! I KNEW IT ! You have a real life, don't you?!? I just knew it!
If by "real life" you mean: endless mundanity and chores, then yes. ;-)
| 910 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:33:46am |
re: #897 albusteve
don't let him...pin his ass to the floor and demand a straight answer...right...pass the green cheese
That could only happen In a one & one interview. At press conferences, Obama does not allow follow up questions.
Te only way that it could work is if the media conspired to ask follow up's for each other.
| 911 |
goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:34:19am |
re: #907 Walter L. Newton
Morning. Goddessoftheclassroom, or as I like to shorten it to Godessone.
Hee! Hee!
| 912 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:34:42am |
re: #900 realwest
Good morning Walter! "It Doesn't Matter Financial Services" at last, truth in advertising!
:)
I want to throw the radio out the window when I hear the ads from the financial services companies. These jerks will keep on and on with their fucking touting this or that way to make a shitload of bucks while the damn ship is sinking all around them.
Really, financial advisors in my world are no better than used car salesmen.
| 913 |
Kenneth Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:34:42am |
re: #879 realwest
Good point but... given the NOI actively supports the genocidal jihad in Sudan, in which arabs are enslaving blacks, one cannot expect any moral consistency from the Obama admin on this issue.
| 914 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:35:00am |
re: #893 opnionWell, yeah. I suppose I shoulda added "I'd like to ask Obama, in completer privacy, one on one.............."
But I suspect he's programmed to respond to questions like that - still and all, I am programmed to break through that programming (though I suspect the USSS would take a dim view of me grabbing him by the shirt and shaking him when I asked!).
| 915 |
goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:35:14am |
re: #908 topazpilot
My favorite scene now is the "Help, I'm being oppressed" one.
| 917 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:36:15am |
re: #910 opnion
That could only happen In a one & one interview. At press conferences, Obama does not allow follow up questions.
Te only way that it could work is if the media conspired to ask follow up's for each other.
blurt it out...man up...what good is a WH press pass if the president has a boot on your neck?...it has to start somewhere
| 918 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:36:32am |
re: #915 goddessoftheclassroom
My favorite scene now is the "Help, I'm being oppressed" one.
Jesus did, sir. I was hopping along, minding my own business, all of a sudden, up he comes, cures me! One minute I'm a leper with a trade, next minute my livelihood's gone. Not so much as a by-your-leave! "You're cured, mate." Bloody do-gooder.
| 919 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:36:37am |
re: #875 albusteve
pretty concise...I'm so overstimulated I can barely keep up...I did not know FM was fines by the SEC...etc etc etc...
All sorts of democrats milked Freddie Mac. Ironically - primarily becasue Freddie Mac was left unchecked without the holy grail of democrat drum beat "regulations". The Democrats shouted DO NOT REGULATE FREDDIE AND FANNIE - All while they happily received in millions in payments.
and the Democrats demand to regulate every other aspect of the free market. Just don't regulate the government entities where democrats stand the most to gain financially.
| 920 |
gettinby Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:37:19am |
re: #895 Geepers
Basalt?! Heh. Small world. The population when I was there was only about 748.2 people.
Enjoy your trip...I'm sure you deserve all the good fun it will offer.
/Do at least one swoosh for me and my memories of the great skiing there.
| 921 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:37:23am |
Matthias: Look, I don't think it should be a sin, just for saying "Jehovah".
[Everyone gasps]
Jewish Official: You're only making it worse for yourself!
Matthias: Making it worse? How can it be worse? Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!
Jewish Official: I'm warning you! If you say "Jehovah" one more time (gets hit with rock) RIGHT! Who did that? Come on, who did it?
Stoners: She did! She did! (suddenly speaking as men) He! He did! He!
Jewish Official: Was it you?
Stoner: Yes.
Jewish Official: Right...
Stoner: Well you did say "Jehovah. "
[Crowd throws rocks at the stoner]
Jewish Official: STOP IT! STOP IT! STOP IT RIGHT NOW! STOP IT! All right, no one is to stone _anyone_ until I blow this whistle. Even... and I want to make this absolutely clear... even if they do say, "Jehovah. "
[Crowd stones the Jewish Official to death]
| 922 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:37:33am |
re: #915 goddessoftheclassroom
My favorite scene now is the "Help, I'm being oppressed" one.
Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Yes, that is a hilarious scene. I am partial to the Black Knight. "come back here, I will bite your legs off. Coward!"
| 923 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:37:35am |
re: #915 goddessoftheclassroom
response to being oppressed ... uh ... well ... er ... kind of
Good morning!
MWAH
| 926 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:38:37am |
re: #898 gettinby
LGF is an amazing site, isn't it!?
During that dreadful time when Julie was in and out of hospital, I really loved being on LGF - it was a real relief to be part of such great group of people and who helped me stay sane :-)
| 927 |
callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:38:40am |
Hi, good morning lizards.
I'm back from up-thread. - A little rant -
Why is it that ex heads of state like Jimmy Carter and Germany's Ex-Chancellor Gerhard Schröder turn into treasonous asshat's of the first order?
Germany's Ex-Chancellor Schroeder Meets Iran's President
This so called private visit of Schröder in Iran to meet also with Mahmud Ahmadinedschad is highly political. As Iran's President is currently fighting for his reelection and Schröder's visit could nicely benefit this creep. The outrage in the German politics and media circle is big, yet the German Foreign ministry is keeping silent.
This is the very same Ex-Chancellor Schröders who called Vladimir Putin a 'flawless' democrat and who went to work for the Russian energy giant Gazprom after not being reelected.
| 928 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:26am |
re: #919 FrogMarch
All sorts of democrats milked Freddie Mac. Ironically - primarily becasue Freddie Mac was left unchecked without the holy grail of democrat drum beat "regulations". The Democrats shouted DO NOT REGULATE FREDDIE AND FANNIE - All while they happily received in millions in payments.
and the Democrats demand to regulate every other aspect of the free market. Just don't regulate the government entities where democrats stand the most to gain financially.
yes I know...now the same ass holes that threw us overboard are set to rescue us?...it's laughable...in my mind they are actually criminal
| 929 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:27am |
re: #899 goddessoftheclassroom
Hello {goddessoftheclassroom}!
| 930 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:27am |
re: #923 pre-Boomer Marine brat
response to being oppressed ... uh ... well ... er ... kind of
Good morning!
MWAH
Judith: [on Stan's desire to be a mother] Here! I've got an idea: Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb - which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans' - but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother... sister, sorry.
Reg: What's the *point*?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.
| 931 |
Vicious Babushka Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:52am |
Good morning Lizards. This weekend we hosted a most inspiring guest for Shabbat. An Israeli gentleman whose wife, 21 years ago, gave birth to triplets (natural, not IVF induced). Two of the babies were healthy, but the third had cerebral palsy. This man has dedicated the rest of his life to seeking the best treatment for cerebral palsy patients in Israel. He has already established a special hospital in Jerusalem, and invites specialists from all over the world. Patients receive treatment, therapy, and for children from large families, there is daycare with dedicated therapists on site 24/7.
The purpose is to find the best and most up-to-date treatment for this disability, and enable patients to live happy, fulfilled and independent lives.
The organization is Tikvah Layeled.
| 932 |
aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:53am |
re: #903 Kenneth
With our new Admin:
....the half-day exercise condensed two days of IED attacks, targetingeconomic and transportation centers acrossanything not already destroyed by the President's New Lousy Deal in America.
the plans have been changed.
| 933 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:39:58am |
re: #903 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth! I know the precise location of the BEST target for Al-Q or any other terrorist organization, but I won't say it out here - not because I think I'm so much smarter than they are, but because I truly am afraid that an attack with a WMD (even just a dirty bomb) would wreack havoc here and don't want to give all those "doctors" any ideas.
How are you today? How's the family doing?
| 934 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:40:28am |
re: #924 Kenneth
Blessed are the cheesemakers.
Spectator I: I think it was "Blessed are the cheesemakers".
Mrs. Gregory: Aha, what's so special about the cheesemakers?
Gregory: Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.
| 935 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:40:28am |
re: #914 realwest
Well, yeah. I suppose I shoulda added "I'd like to ask Obama, in completer privacy, one on one.............."
But I suspect he's programmed to respond to questions like that - still and all, I am programmed to break through that programming (though I suspect the USSS would take a dim view of me grabbing him by the shirt and shaking him when I asked!).
Don't worry about the Secret Service. We will set up a Real West Defense Fund. We'll take to the streets. We will speak truth to power baby! And when you get out of the joint in, oh I don't know five years we'll have a party.
| 936 |
Geepers Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:41:38am |
gettinby (#920),
Do at least one swoosh for me and my memories of the great skiing there.
Oh yeah, at least one. :-)
| 937 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:41:53am |
re: #905 3 wood
Hey, good morning my friend, I'm doing ok thanks. How about you?
Oh and I meant to e-mail you, but if you should meet up with that fella we've discussed, could ya please ask him, again, to e-mail me?
| 938 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:42:38am |
re: #906 songbird
Good morning back atcha {songbird} - hope you're doinig well today!
| 939 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:44:33am |
The FNC panel is discussing Holder's comments now.
As usual Juan Williams is being honest. He is condemning Holder & speculating that he will get hate mail, calling him a Tom, etc.
| 940 |
callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:44:34am |
re: #899 goddessoftheclassroom
Hello {goddessoftheclassroom}!
| 941 |
goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:44:36am |
re: #923 pre-Boomer Marine brat
response to being oppressed ... uh ... well ... er ... kind of
Good morning!
MWAH
MWAH!
| 942 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:45:16am |
re: #928 albusteve
yes I know...now the same ass holes that threw us overboard are set to rescue us?...it's laughable...in my mind they are actually criminal
Yep. The foxes criminals are guarding the hen house golden-egg laying goose house.
| 944 |
Ojoe Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:46:49am |
Here are the San Gabriel Mountains of California in the early morning. Towercam, Pacific time zone.
Happy Washington's birthday.
And here is a Sunday morning Merton quote:
"In the center of our being is a point of nothingness
which is untouched by sin and illusion,
a point of pure truth,
a point or spark which belongs entirely to God,
which is never at our disposal,
from which God disposes of our lives,
which is inaccessible to the fantasies of our own mind,
or the brutalities of our own will.
This little point of pure nothingness and of absolute poverty is the pure glory of God in us.
It is like a pure diamond, blazing with the invisible light of heaven.
It is in everybody, and if we could see it
we would see these billions of points of light
coming together in the face and blaze of a sun
that would make all the darkness and cruelty of life vanish
completely.
I have no program for this seeing.
It is only given.
But the gate of heaven is everywhere.
| 945 |
goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:46:58am |
| 946 |
Kenneth Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:46:59am |
re: #933 realwest
You are wise not to say it. There was a report several weeks ago about a suspected Hexbollah cell scoping Jewish sites in Toronto. Sooner or later something horrible will happen. A friend of mine was in Mumbai last week. he stayed at the big hotel where the attacks occurred and had a tour of some of the damaged sections. He said the amount of damage was incredible.
Thanks for asking, the family is doing fine. I hope you're doing all right today.
Gotta run.
| 947 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:47:14am |
| 948 |
Ojoe Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:48:09am |
| 949 |
3 wood Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:48:10am |
re: #937 realwest
Sure I will. I probably will see him tonight.
In financial news folks, the whole focus this week will revolve around the "toxic assets". The market as a whole has gotten tired of waiting on the Obama Administration to deal with these in a way that makes sense. Until the "toxic assets" are dealt with, the market will assume that the banking system is going to be nationalized, which means that share holder equity will go to zero, so financial stocks will drop to near zero and stay there unless and until Geithner finds a clue.
| 950 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:49:11am |
re: #931 Alouette
Good morning to you and thank you for sharing that with us.
| 951 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:50:13am |
re: #917 albusteve
blurt it out...man up...what good is a WH press pass if the president has a boot on your neck?...it has to start somewhere
They might lose their White House credentials If they start badgering & keep in mind the Media Press corps with maybe the exception of Major Garret have a crush on Obama.
| 952 |
realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:50:34am |
re: #935 opnion
You're uh, support is absolutely underwhelming but appreciated! LOL!
| 953 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:51:11am |
re: #887 Walter L. Newton
What the fuck did he think it was, a recipe for falafel?
Maybe orders for a 4th Purple Heart?
/S
| 954 |
goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:51:19am |
Lizard Prayer List 2/21/09
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope
Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.
Community issues:
Our country going forward
Our troops
Israel
Australia fighting wild fires
Georgia/Ossetia
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice
Thanksgivings
knitwit: mother’s peaceful passing after long illness
HoosierHoops: son Jordan deployed to Japan instead of Afghanistan & grandchild on the way
BaseballMom57: husband recovering at home
Vxbush: health issues diagnosed
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans
Health issues:
bbuddha: mother-in-law not eating or drinking
Hoppes: has sick children, lost her MIL, and is very stressed
Kenneth: mom diagnosed with cancer and has been told she has a matter of weeks left.
UberInfidel67: brothers health after polyps removal
Aussiemagpie: children with health issues
Walter Cronanty: son with recurrence of leukemia & recovering from bone marrow transplant.
logboy: recovery from injuries received in combat in Iraq
Dublin(CA)Dude – extensive cancer
gettinby: sister diagnosed with Sjogren’s Syndrome
Yochanan: d-i-l (ronite bas golda) undergoing surgery.
Knitwit: niece Elizabeth has a nasty MRSA infection after orthopedic surgery
tfc3rid: gf's 89 year old grandmother (suffered a a large stroke and is in rehab) and her uncle who is suffering from throat cancer; and continued prayers for dad who has MS
Typicalwhitey: father’s undergoing tests for pancreatic cancer
MNsnowlizard: Had open heart surgery in February (35 years old) and could be facing another one
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
mikeymom: sister suffered a stroke
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father back in the hospital
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain, having gone from bad to worse
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
/cont’d
| 955 |
goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:51:32am |
Lizard Prayer List, cont’d:
Family, friend, and life situations:
Safe travels for those traveling to lobby for Heart Defect Research 2/10/09
Lizards in need of particular career opportunities.
Vxbush: two Lizard friends dealing with big issues
Army Green since '92: post has lost three soldiers in Afghanistan; friends deploying there next week.
yma o hyd: ease the grief of friend who lost her husband of 59 years
Taqiyyotomist: strength in difficult times
FBV: that the unknowns find fulfillment
Vxbush: daughter’s financial issues
Yochanan: son in IDF
Bcgirl: sponsored child, Alia in Egypt
Wyatt Earp: Uncle Joe; prostate cancer returned
West Texas: brother’s decision
Victor_yugo: job
laZardo: strength of purpose
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: mom home from the hospital but may be regressing
A Kiwi Infidel: Natasha and her husband mourning the loss of the younger child.
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
neocon hippie: grieving for big black kitty, Ripple
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Asperger’s (mild autism)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
jcm: previous foster daughters going back with families; new 5-week-old foster daughter.
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: strength for kids and her dealing with EH.
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general
| 956 |
calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:51:42am |
| 957 |
Truck Monkey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:51:45am |
re: #951 opnion
They might lose their White House credentials If they start badgering & keep in mind the Media Press corps with maybe the exception of Major Garret have a crush on Obama.
It is hard for the pressers to ask any tough questions much less follow up when they are so busy fellating "The One".
| 958 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:53:19am |
re: #949 3 wood
Sure I will. I probably will see him tonight.
In financial news folks, the whole focus this week will revolve around the "toxic assets". The market as a whole has gotten tired of waiting on the Obama Administration to deal with these in a way that makes sense. Until the "toxic assets" are dealt with, the market will assume that the banking system is going to be nationalized, which means that share holder equity will go to zero, so financial stocks will drop to near zero and stay there unless and until Geithner finds a clue.
What about the focus on Obama's "balanced budget" plan, which news of some of the plan has leaked out this weekend.
I read what info was available and it seems to me that first, he is trying to break successful private business by increasing taxes on them and second, ruin thing for those who are making larger salaries by increasing their tax burden.
So, you make it harder for business to do business, so they fail, so the government takes them over and too hell with the upper middle class, let's kick them down to the level of many others and make them dependent on the government.
In my opinion, since Obama is going right ahead with his promise to "distribute the wealth," there is no stopping the fall of our whole economy.
| 959 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:53:25am |
re: #952 realwest
You're uh, support is absolutely underwhelming but appreciated! LOL!
I'm here for ya!
| 960 |
3 wood Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:53:46am |
re: #943 Geepers
Hi Geepers. Well, hanging in there. Getting up to speed in the new job, trying to keep a close eye on the market melt down, doing some things in music, started working out hard (running and weight lifting) to get in better shape, like that.
We played a coffee house Friday night that went pretty well. One of the groups after us had apparently never practiced together before, they played their numbers reading sheet music, and the guitarist forgot his capo and had to run off stage and keep everybody waiting while he dug around in his case for the item. So it was not all that hard to look good by comparison.
How have you been?
| 961 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:53:56am |
re: #333 Consanescerion
Referring to the quote heading the thread... Sir Clarke was never too concerned about his Sri Lankan houseboys
This is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. It's a baseless rumor promoted by religious fanatics who wanted to smear Arthur C. Clarke because of his powerful criticisms of religion.
I'm deleting your comments. I see what you're doing, and I'm not going to allow LGF to be used to spread this ugly smear. Post this again and I will remove your account.
| 963 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:55:41am |
| 964 |
Kenneth Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:55:46am |
re: #887 Walter L. Newton
What the fuck did he think it was, a recipe for falafel?
John Kerry is a few chickpeas short of a falafel.
| 965 |
Ben Hur Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:56:09am |
| 966 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:56:24am |
re: #964 Kenneth
re: #887 Walter L. Newton
John Kerry is a few chickpeas short of a falafel.
Trashing on his manhood again.
| 968 |
Dustyvet Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:57:31am |
re: #961 Charles
This is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. It's a baseless rumor promoted by religious fanatics who wanted to smear Arthur C. Clarke because of his powerful criticisms of religion.
I'm deleting your comments. I see what you're doing, and I'm not going to allow LGF to be used to spread this ugly smear.
Outstanding, thanks Charles.
| 969 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:57:52am |
... The latest noise from the administration is that the president has ordered a "thorough review of policy on Iran."Did you think Obama had already reviewed a policy that he had vehemently condemned and opposed? Wrong: As in many other cases, he opposed Bush policy without bothering to study and understand it. ...
| 970 |
3 wood Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:58:13am |
re: #958 Walter L. Newton
I don't think Obama has any intention of even trying to balance the budget. He is going to spend, spend, and then spend some more.
I don't believe a word of what he said about that.
I'm just guessing here, but I think he now realizes the damage that he did to the market by screaming "catastrophe" for 3 weeks, and is now trying to talk the market back. Too late.
With the way inflation will have to skyrocket (M2 is growing by 13%) there is no way they can cut the deficit, except by inflating the debt.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:58:16am |
re: #965 Ben Hur
You watch your tongue!
LOL!
H*w *re y*u tod*y?
* h*pe yo* ar* w*ll.
/*** ***** * ****** ** **** ******** * *** !
| 972 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:58:19am |
re: #964 Kenneth
re: #887 Walter L. Newton
John Kerry is a few chickpeas short of a falafel.
The falafel is 'seared " into his memory.
| 973 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:58:37am |
In fact, I'm not going to wait to block that account. That was a vile bunch of posts.
| 976 |
Bloodnok Sun, Feb 22, 2009 7:59:58am |
| 977 |
3 wood Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:00:21am |
re: #958 Walter L. Newton
Anything Obama does to "balance the budget" is really to further his Marxist views of spreading the misery and punish success.
| 978 |
itellu3times Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:00:25am |
re: #949 3 wood
Sure I will. I probably will see him tonight.
In financial news folks, the whole focus this week will revolve around the "toxic assets". The market as a whole has gotten tired of waiting on the Obama Administration to deal with these in a way that makes sense. Until the "toxic assets" are dealt with, the market will assume that the banking system is going to be nationalized, which means that share holder equity will go to zero, so financial stocks will drop to near zero and stay there unless and until Geithner finds a clue.
In all fairness, Paulson and Bernanke under Bush, and now Geitner and Bernanke under Obama, have done enough that it probably should have reassured the markets and ameliorated the crisis. As perhaps it has, because we really have been walking the edge of the abyss since September, if not since last February when Bear Stearns first went down. It's much the same idiocy that caused the problem in the first place, that maintains the problem today.
OTOH, after all, the entire financial system is still toxic, and cleaning up a few trillion in mortage assets WILL NOT FIX IT. Leverage is still out there, CDS is worse then CDO, and consumer spending is still scared and not inflated by real estate bubble equity, and remains scared even when the financial titans are healthy.
The point being, I don't particularly blame Geithner nor Obama, they didn't break it, and they may not be in the position to fix it that the simpleminded libs and MSM may make out. One could argue that it's a better thing if they don't try, at least don't try too hard.
| 979 |
Ojoe Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:00:32am |
| 980 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:00:59am |
re: #970 3 wood
I don't think Obama has any intention of even trying to balance the budget. He is going to spend, spend, and then spend some more.
I don't believe a word of what he said about that.
I'm just guessing here, but I think he now realizes the damage that he did to the market by screaming "catastrophe" for 3 weeks, and is now trying to talk the market back. Too late.
With the way inflation will have to skyrocket (M2 is growing by 13%) there is no way they can cut the deficit, except by inflating the debt.
So, this is going to tank? Like I have said before, I know nothing about this except what my common sense tells me. Common sense tells me there is no way to stop what he is doing, going to do until HE stops it, or backs off his policies.
Since he has control of the house and congress, short of his own party turning against him, the ride is all downhill from here.
| 981 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:04am |
/uh ... gee ... how do I use asterisks to turn ***** into an action?
| 982 |
callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:19am |
re: #961 Charles
This is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. It's a baseless rumor promoted by religious fanatics who wanted to smear Arthur C. Clarke because of his powerful criticisms of religion.
I'm deleting your comments. I see what you're doing, and I'm not going to allow LGF to be used to spread this ugly smear. Post this again and I will remove your account.
Thanks for clarifying this issue once and for all, (I hope).
| 983 |
n in wi Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:31am |
re: #924 Kenneth
Blessed are the cheesemakers.
On behalf of all Wisconsinites,I thank you.
Could ya throw in a little somethink for the beer makers?
| 984 |
Truck Monkey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:42am |
re: #976 Bloodnok
That is a terrible picture of Hillary.
You're telling me that you have seen a good one?
| 985 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:44am |
re: #968 Dustyvet
Mr. Clarke was a true gentleman. He showed up at an embassy reception is Columbo, Sri Lanka where my ship had stopped for a port call. Not to mention the man could WRITE!
| 986 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:01:59am |
re: #979 Ojoe
I wouldn't stay here if this weren't a clean well lighted place.
Thanks Charles.
Ditto, up-ding!
| 988 |
calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:02:45am |
re: #955 goddessoftheclassroom
Might I also suggest for blessing and protection over all of us during these times.
And--am I'm sure to catch a little fire for this one--for a blessing on the POTUS and his cabinet for their safety, protection, and that they be given wisdom and discernment in their decisions concerning their governance.
| 989 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:03:37am |
re: #977 3 wood
Anything Obama does to "balance the budget" is really to further his Marxist views of spreading the misery and punish success.
Hey Mister, calling Obama a Marxist is hate speach!
People tried that same tactic & Karl Marx.
| 991 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:03:58am |
Why don't you asshats cut Charles a break? It is Sunday morning and he's having to run around swatting moonbats. Sheesh.
Said mornin' all on the previous thread, so, mornin' all.
| 992 |
BlueCanuck Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:04:17am |
re: #988 calcajun
Why should you catch fire for that desire? Just because we don't like or trust them doesn't mean we can't desire that they end up doing what needs to be done, and done well.
| 993 |
calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:04:39am |
re: #961 Charles
Hmmm. I think you're being too subtle, Charles.
| 994 |
calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:05:06am |
| 995 |
Bloodnok Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:05:44am |
re: #984 Truck Monkey
You're telling me that you have seen a good one?
Aw, that's not really fair. That's a shot intended to make her look "old". She looked much different during the campaign.
| 996 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:05:48am |
re: #988 calcajun
And--am I'm sure to catch a little fire for this one--for a blessing on the POTUS and his cabinet for their safety, protection, and that they be given wisdom and discernment in their decisions concerning their governance.
As much as I disagree (to put it mildly) with The One, that is an entirely appropriate wish.
/I've got your back
| 997 |
goddessoftheclassroom Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:12am |
re: #988 calcajun
Might I also suggest for blessing and protection over all of us during these times.
And--am I'm sure to catch a little fire for this one--for a blessing on the POTUS and his cabinet for their safety, protection, and that they be given wisdom and discernment in their decisions concerning their governance.
I will revise "our country going forward" accordingly. Thanks for the suggestion.
LIZARDS: PLEASE let me know of any requests or updates. If you see another Lizard's post of a situation, please ask him or her if he or she would like to be added to the Prayer List, then let me know, My nic is blue now,
| 998 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:16am |
re: #988 calcajun
I do not agree with their policies, but I wish no harm on them. Okay, I take part of that back, Biden getting pied would be funny. But it would scare the hell out of the Secret Service, so that's right out.
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opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:31am |
Jindal is on Meet the Press right now. I like the guy, but I wish that he was more rational about his religious beliefs, or at least keep them to himself.
| 1001 |
callahan23 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:49am |
| 1002 |
Truck Monkey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:06:50am |
re: #988 calcajun
I second your emotion. We are all in this thing together.
| 1003 |
J.D. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:07:06am |
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Miss Trixie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:07:09am |
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪
Having a lazy Sunday and we've had 2 more inches of gorebull warming overnight. Lawdy, I'm sooooooo tired of it I could just cry.
{realwest} Morning luv *smoochie-smooch* So glad to know your problem with your eye is resolved - what a relief! *hug*
| 1006 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:07:33am |
re: #989 opnion
Hey Mister, calling Obama a Marxist is hate speach!
People tried that same tactic & Karl Marx.
"on" Karl Marx.
| 1007 |
Truck Monkey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:08:20am |
re: #995 Bloodnok
I was saying that more in jest than anything else. I long for the days of Clinton. I can't believe that I am saying that, but I mean it.
| 1009 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:08:57am |
re: #997 goddessoftheclassroom
(OT re "blue nic")
BTW, I did see your last LOLcat last night, about "did you let the cat in?"
It was an absolute SCREAMER! One of the best I've ever seen.
| 1010 |
Bloodnok Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:09:25am |
re: #1007 Truck Monkey
I was saying that more in jest than anything else. I long for the days of Clinton. I can't believe that I am saying that, but I mean it.
I love how she is being portrayed as the "voice of reason" in the administration. What planet am I on?
| 1011 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:09:38am |
Jindal is kicking the shit out of David Gregory.
| 1012 |
calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:09:51am |
re: #992 BlueCanuck
I don't think the folks who would rather see him fail, the "he's not my president" types have not been fully weeded out of here.
As for the phantom down-dingers--if you are going to down ding some one-have the courtesy of posting a comment as to why you disagree with someone. After all, how are we to learn if all you say, essentially, is that we are wrong, and nothing more.
| 1013 |
3 wood Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:10:23am |
re: #980 Walter L. Newton
I guess one has to define what they mean by "tank". Do I think the stock market will go to zero? No. There is intrinsic value to many of these stocks.
But I think we will lose another 20% of value off the Dow and the S&P until the bear market stops, and then it will be a long climb back.
As I've said several times before, there are several obvious moves that can be made to short cut to a recovery and stop the bleeding. Drop "mark to market" and go back to discounted cash flows, which is what was used before mark to market was established about 15 years ago. Reinstall the "uptick" rule and enforce the ban against naked short selling, to stop the outrageously destructive short selling that is going on. Unwind the toxic assets and deal with the underlying mortgages themselves. Most of those loans will end up working out to be good deals.
The fact is these moves are becoming more and more clearly obvious to the trading public and not just the obscure discussion of technical economic nerds like me. And the reality that the Obama Administration does nothing is leaving the market to conclude that we have idiots in charge of the government now.
Not a good thing to conclude.
| 1014 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:10:31am |
Not taking a gov't handout is rascist. J. Clyburn Donk South Carolina.
| 1015 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:10:37am |
re: #1008 pingjockey
A pox on Karl Marx and all his works.
Please, let's not wash our dirty Lenin in public.
| 1016 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:10:47am |
Just a little cuteness to break into serious business for a bit
| 1017 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:10:58am |
new niche in the job market...get your Masters in PlaxoProtection!
[Link: www.usatoday.com...]
| 1018 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:11:27am |
re: #1008 pingjockey
A pox on Karl Marx and all his works.
Marx knew all about labor & the proletariat? He never did an honest day of work in his life.
| 1019 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:11:57am |
re: #1015 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I haven't had enough caffine to be punny!
| 1020 |
3 wood Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:12:30am |
re: #989 opnion
I figure one of these days I will be labeled an "enemy of the State".
| 1021 |
calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:12:53am |
re: #1011 opnion
Look for original thoughts--not GOP talking points.
Also, one of Jindal's bitches is that literally NADA of the stimulus money is going for Katrina relief.
| 1023 |
Miss Trixie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:13:14am |
re: #908 topazpilot
I'm a huge fan of the Holy Grail and much of Life of Brian, especially the stoning scene "All I said was this halibut was good enough for Jehovah" or something along those lines. In skits nothing beats the Dead Parrot, paying for an argument, vikings eating spam "but I don't like spam!," and the spanish inquisition. I don't know why but the fish slapping dance always gives me a good chuckle. I have a movie poster framed of the crucifixion scene at the end of Life of Brian on my living room wall. It shows Graham Chapman with his jeans around his ankles and Eric Idle sporting a pair of converse.
*snort*
This is my absolute favorite MP skit. Kills me every time! :D
| 1024 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:13:32am |
re: #1020 3 wood
Why? Because you work, pay taxes, think for yourself?!
| 1025 |
calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:14:03am |
re: #1015 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Please, let's not wash our dirty Lenin in public.
Please, do not Trotsky out the puns this early. I cannot Beria the thought of them.
| 1026 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:14:13am |
re: #1020 3 wood
I figure one of these days I will be labeled an "enemy of the State".
Stick to the man! Speak truth to power! Listen to your better angels!
| 1027 |
Perplexed Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:14:44am |
re: #1012 calcajun
I don't think the folks who would rather see him fail, the "he's not my president" types have not been fully weeded out of here.
As for the phantom down-dingers--if you are going to down ding some one-have the courtesy of posting a comment as to why you disagree with someone. After all, how are we to learn if all you say, essentially, is that we are wrong, and nothing more.
Want to see Obabma fail? Only on his socialist agenda, rationing of health care, failed taxation policies, and his crappy "I won so STFU" attitude. That's pretty much his entire plan for the country.
| 1029 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:15:06am |
re: #1019 pingjockey
I haven't had enough caffine to be punny!
Uh oh! My bad. Forgot that you're two hours behind.
| 1030 |
calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:15:27am |
re: #1026 opnion
Stick to the man! Speak truth to power! Listen to your better angels!
I prefer Fredrick Douglass in his later years, "Agitate, agitate, agitate!"
| 1031 |
JacksonTn Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:15:59am |
re: #1018 opnion
Marx knew all about labor & the proletariat? He never did an honest day of work in his life.
Remind you of anyone else .... you know like someone millions of slobbering idiots voted into the White House ...did he ever even deliver pizza while in school? ... did he ever have a part-time job? Besides community organizer and a short time at the law firm representing ACORN, et al what job has he ever had? ...
| 1032 |
3 wood Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:16:07am |
re: #1024 pingjockey
Because I criticize Obama and his administration.
Rather than have a tingle go up my leg, I get a sick feeling in my gut every time I contemplate the effects of what Obama is doing to our economy.
I really can not think of much more you can do to wreck it than what he has done so far.
| 1033 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:16:10am |
re: #1025 calcajun
Please, do not Trotsky out the puns this early. I cannot Beria the thought of them.
I thought it was time to quit Stalin around.
| 1034 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:16:38am |
re: #1021 calcajun
Look for original thoughts--not GOP talking points.
Also, one of Jindal's bitches is that literally NADA of the stimulus money is going for Katrina relief.
He's covering the issue about Katrina now. I really have not heard talking points from Jindal this morning. He just is better prepared to discuss economic issues than Gregory is.
| 1036 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:18:00am |
re: #1029 pre-Boomer Marine brat
The 9 yr old has his b-day yesterday, so we had a pizza party and a sleepover by 4 of his buddies. Up till midnight, up at dawn! I'm not a kid anymore! They had a Wii bowling tournament. Madness, said it was like trying to referee a melee.
| 1037 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:18:07am |
We better cool with the puns.
I think pingjockey is about to send a helicopter off the fantail.
| 1038 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:18:13am |
| 1039 |
Perplexed Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:18:38am |
re: #1031 JacksonTn
Remind you of anyone else .... you know like someone millions of slobbering idiots voted into the White House ...did he ever even deliver pizza while in school? ... did he ever have a part-time job? Besides community organizer and a short time at the law firm representing ACORN, et al what job has he ever had? ...
You're going to be dragged from your house one night in the not so distant future an reeducated properly. You've made the ONE's enemy list.
///////////
really hope it doesn't come to pass.
| 1040 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:18:52am |
re: #1030 calcajun
I prefer Fredrick Douglass in his later years, "Agitate, agitate, agitate!"
Thats good too. Hey, hey , ho ,ho Bush & Cheney have got to go!
| 1042 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:19:28am |
re: #1036 pingjockey
The 9 yr old has his b-day yesterday, so we had a pizza party and a sleepover by 4 of his buddies. Up till midnight, up at dawn! I'm not a kid anymore! They had a Wii bowling tournament. Madness, said it was like trying to referee a melee.
OMG!
No more puns for a while, gang!
"Dad" needs serious recuperation!
| 1043 |
Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:19:36am |
Oh my.
Well, I'm late to the thread, but Charles, I might think twice before taking advice from Arthur C. Clarke on perversions....
He was something of an expert on the subject, though.
| 1044 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:19:39am |
Not a single question from Gregory on Jindal's creationism, or his other extreme social con positions.
This is a precursor of what we're going to see. The MSM and the left would love it if Jindal is the GOP nominee in 2012, because he will lose. So they're going to ignore all the damaging issues until it's time to bring them up.
| 1045 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:19:46am |
re: #1032 3 wood
His budget is gonna wreck a lot more. He wants to cut the deficeit by raising taxes on business and the 'rich' and gut the military.
| 1046 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:20:30am |
re: #1037 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Naah. Adapt, persevere, overcome.
| 1047 |
JacksonTn Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:20:39am |
re: #1039 Perplexed
You're going to be dragged from your house one night in the not so distant future an reeducated properly. You've made the ONE's enemy list.
///////////
really hope it doesn't come to pass.
Well, they better come armed with something more than the LITTLE BLUE OBAMA HANDBOOK ...cuz I ain't going quietly ...I am just praying he is a one term occupant of the White House ...
| 1048 |
Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:20:55am |
re: #1043 Cognito
Oh my.
Well, I'm late to the thread, but Charles, I might think twice before taking advice from Arthur C. Clarke on perversions....
He was something of an expert on the subject, though.
Excuse me, Cognito, but those stories are complete bullshit. And if you post them here I'll block your account. I'm not going to allow LGF to be used as a method to spread baseless smears.
| 1050 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:22:15am |
re: #1031 JacksonTn
Remind you of anyone else .... you know like someone millions of slobbering idiots voted into the White House ...did he ever even deliver pizza while in school? ... did he ever have a part-time job? Besides community organizer and a short time at the law firm representing ACORN, et al what job has he ever had? ...
Barry is a slacker. By his own admission he spent high school stoned, not working & pulling down bad grades. But hey, that gets you an academic scholarship to Occidental.
| 1052 |
Teacake! Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:22:50am |
It is not funny.. ever.
My opinion
When scum of the earth stooges of death die in the pursuit of their murder game... get stuck in the tunnel because they all tried to fit inside it at the same time, sorry Linda, its high comedy.
| 1053 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:22:56am |
re: #1046 pingjockey
Naah. Adapt, persevere, overcome.
Then we'll see if you're adapt enough at persevering.
| 1054 |
Miss Trixie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:23:07am |
re: #1016 aussiemagpie
Just a little cuteness to break into serious business for a bit
Morning/afternoon/evening/witching hour toots!
That was just loverly - thanks!
| 1055 |
Perplexed Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:24:05am |
re: #1045 pingjockey
His budget is gonna wreck a lot more. He wants to cut the deficeit by raising taxes on business and the 'rich' and gut the military.
The military still hasn't recovered from either Carter or Clinton. Clinton did much more to weaken our military by misapplying the 'peace dividend' to perpetual government handout programs. The Republicans could run just about anyone and wind if Obama does as poorly as president that I think he will.
| 1056 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:24:10am |
re: #1053 pre-Boomer Marine brat
We all better be adept at adapting to persevere the next 4 years.
| 1057 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:25:09am |
"God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist."
-Arthur C. Clarke
Wired Magazine, Ten word short story.
From Wiki. Pretty cool.
| 1058 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:25:15am |
re: #1055 Perplexed
I can remember doing training pierside that should have been done at sea because we had no fuel!
| 1059 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:25:44am |
re: #1013 3 wood
Thanks. (or is that tanks :)
| 1060 |
Perplexed Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:26:41am |
re: #1058 pingjockey
I can remember doing training pierside that should have been done at sea because we had no fuel!
Was that demoralizing to you and your shipmates?
| 1061 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:26:42am |
re: #1044 Charles
Not a single question from Gregory on Jindal's creationism, or his other extreme social con positions.
This is a precursor of what we're going to see. The MSM and the left would love it if Jindal is the GOP nominee in 2012, because he will lose. So they're going to ignore all the damaging issues until it's time to bring them up.
But the MSM will keep reminding us that Romney is a Mormon. Booga, booga!
| 1062 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:27:12am |
re: #1055 Perplexed
The military still hasn't recovered from either Carter or Clinton. Clinton did much more to weaken our military by misapplying the 'peace dividend' to perpetual government handout programs. The Republicans could run just about anyone and wind if Obama does as poorly as president that I think he will.
the question will be do the people want a socialistic govt?....and fundamentally do they understand what socialism is?...my answers are yes and no...the GOP is in a death spiral
| 1063 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:27:19am |
| 1064 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:28:24am |
re: #1058 pingjockey
I can remember doing training pierside that should have been done at sea because we had no fuel!
We did the same thing in WestPac in the early/mid-Sixties -- "Abandon Ship" drills the moment we entered Hong Kong, Yoko, Sasebo, ....
| 1065 |
Perplexed Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:28:29am |
re: #1061 opnion
But the MSM will keep reminding us that Romney is a Mormon. Booga, booga!
When will the MSM remind us that Obama is a rabid socialist?
| 1066 |
itellu3times Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:28:37am |
re: #1055 Perplexed
The military still hasn't recovered from either Carter or Clinton. Clinton did much more to weaken our military by misapplying the 'peace dividend' to perpetual government handout programs. The Republicans could run just about anyone and wind if Obama does as poorly as president that I think he will.
Yeah but who, McCain apparently didn't qualify as just about anyone before, I wonder if even Romney would qualify as just about anyone next time.
| 1067 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:29:07am |
re: #1054 Miss Trixie
Morning/afternoon/evening/witching hour toots!
That was just loverly - thanks!
G'day {darls}
Aren't they just so cute?
It's way past 3am here and I should be in bed :-) It's Work Monday today.....
| 1068 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:29:10am |
re: #1060 Perplexed
Not so much demoralizing as it didn't make sense. We didn't know why.
| 1069 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:29:17am |
| 1071 |
Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:30:39am |
re: #515 Throbert McGee
I'll bet that wouldn't blow as many African-American minds as...
...wait for it!...
...George Washington Carver.
(There's an obvious joke here about "the scientist who found over 100 different uses for peanu'ss," but I'm not going to sully the thread by making it.)
Yes, George Washington Carver was gay. And so were these other famous Black Americans
Bayard Rustin (1912-1987)
Barbara Jordan (1936-1996)
Johnny Mathis
Countee Cullen (1903-1946)
Angela Davis
Josephine Baker (1906-1975)
Alice Walker
RuPaul
Billie Holiday (1915-1959)
James Baldwin (1924-1987)
Langston Hughes (1902-1967)
Bessie Smith (1894-1937)
| 1072 |
opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:31:13am |
re: #1065 Perplexed
When will the MSM remind us that Obama is a rabid socialist?
Tossin the flag on that one. Any criticism of the Dear Leader is hate speech. Pack your bags, off to reeducation camp for you.
| 1073 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:31:34am |
re: #1062 albusteve
the question will be do the people want a socialistic govt?....and fundamentally do they understand what socialism is?...my answers are yes and no...the GOP is in a death spiral
I have to agree with Steve. Poorly is only an adjective that makes sense if you are concerned with capitalism. A good percentage of the people that voted for Obama WANT SOCIALISM, and they understand what it is. I know, I talk to a lot of them all the time.
So, Obama is doing just what he promised, just what they want and he's not doing "poorly" as far as they are concerned.
I would say he's doing a grand job, doing exactly what he told the country he is going to do.
It's all in the way you perceive it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:31:36am |
re: #1071 Afrocity
RuPaul was gay? Didn't see that one coming.
| 1075 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:32:13am |
re: #1071 Afrocity
Johnny Mathis? Are you serious?
| 1076 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:32:36am |
re: #1074 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
RuPaul was gay? Didn't see that one coming.
I just thought he was a bad dresser.
| 1077 |
Walter L. Newton Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:32:55am |
| 1078 |
albusteve Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:32:57am |
re: #1065 Perplexed
When will the MSM remind us that Obama is a rabid socialist?
when he turns and bites the hand that feeds him...I am not optimistic that will happen soon enough altho it could I guess...the donks are out for the jugular this time and the GOP is snoozing along covering their asses...look to the House for any meaningful resistance...obviously
| 1079 |
pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:33:24am |
re: #1073 Walter L. Newton
Words mean things. A lot of folks did not pay attention to what the 'one' said.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:34:46am |
re: #1077 Walter L. Newton
Chances are...
*groan*
up-ding for the pun ... (don't know beans about the other)
| 1081 |
aussiemagpie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:34:49am |
Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!
Tonights view of OZ for you...
| 1082 |
Cognito Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:35:05am |
re: #1070 sattv4u2
I don't know anything about a tabloid story, so I can't comment on that.
And I will say that Clarke was, regardless, a towering figure in many ways.
| 1083 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:35:41am |
re: #1081 aussiemagpie
Goodnight {everyone} and have a wonderful yesterday!
Tonights view of OZ for you...
Good night!
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opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:35:44am |
Florida Governor Charlie Cris is on with David Gregory right now.
He is undercutting the Republicans & lauduing Obama's stimulus plan.
This is the same guy who endorsed McCain one week before the Florida Primary, while McCain was spreading the lie that Romney supported a time table for withdrawl fro Iraq.
| 1085 |
Miss Trixie Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:35:56am |
I need lizard help, please.
Since IE won't allow me to see avatars or use the hearts etc., I installed Safari so that I may do so. However, after installing all the recommended plug-ins, I get this error message when I try to view videos here:
"MIME application/x-shockwave-flash" not installed or somesuch message. I don't know what to do about that so I'm still on IE.
Any suggestions?
| 1086 |
reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:35:57am |
re: #1034 opnion
He's covering the issue about Katrina now. I really have not heard talking points from Jindal this morning. He just is better prepared to discuss economic issues than Gregory is.
Jindal sounds as if he actually knows what's in the stimulus legislation and what it will do, unlike those who are just basing their opinions on what we've been told is in there and what it will do.
| 1087 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:36:02am |
CHARLES,,
Sorry ,, I was in the middle of typing when you deleted Cognito's #1051. You may have to scrub my #1070. Understandable
| 1088 |
Caliredst8r Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:36:05am |
re: #976 Bloodnok
That is a terrible picture of Hillary.
Is she trying to look like Margaret Thatcher?
| 1089 |
3 wood Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:36:24am |
re: #1056 pingjockey
Are you old enough to remember the Carter years?
I am.
It's like 1978 all over again
| 1090 |
FrogMarch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:36:28am |
re: #1044 Charles
Not a single question from Gregory on Jindal's creationism, or his other extreme social con positions.
This is a precursor of what we're going to see. The MSM and the left would love it if Jindal is the GOP nominee in 2012, because he will lose. So they're going to ignore all the damaging issues until it's time to bring them up.
Bingo!
So it's up to the Republican's to wise up and find someone better. In our corrupt media environment, any Republican candidate will have to be almost perfect in every way to have a chance against God jr. The MFM will be merciless.
(Attach Obama's connections to any Republican - and boom - that Republican would (and should) be laughed off the stage)
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reine.de.tout Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:36:28am |
re: #1085 Miss Trixie
I need lizard help, please.
Since IE won't allow me to see avatars or use the hearts etc., I installed Safari so that I may do so. However, after installing all the recommended plug-ins, I get this error message when I try to view videos here:
"MIME application/x-shockwave-flash" not installed or somesuch message. I don't know what to do about that so I'm still on IE.
Any suggestions?
Install google chrome instead.
| 1093 |
dapperdave Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:37:19am |
re: #1075 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ooh ya, the father of a good friend of mine was his road manger for years.
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Athens Runaway Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:37:30am |
re: #1063 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Romney's a Mormon?
/
Damn. Huckster was right.. We're being invaded by Mormons, I tells ya. Why, I saw two going door to door the other day!
I'm going to go blog about the invading hordes of nice, moral Mormons. MORMONS AT THE GATES OF MY PROPERTY
| 1095 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:38:33am |
re: #1082 Cognito
I don't know anything
about a tabloid story, so I can't comment on that.
And I will say that Clarke was, regardless, a towering figure in many ways.you really do make it too easy!
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calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:38:46am |
re: #1044 Charles
You may have a point, but the current topic is the economy and the stimulus. Besides, if Gregory had gone on to the attack, Jindal might have come off the better for it. I don't think it was the right moment for such a series of questions.
That being said, I've just finished "American Creation" by Joseph Ellis. He has a less than flattering take on Thomas Jefferson and the views of the man. Jefferson came across on this book as a "true believer" in his revolutionary republican views, especially concerning France. Jefferson also had a facility for ignoring inconvenient facts--such as the Reign of Terror--which did not fit within his world view. His biggest paradox was the he did not believe that the chief executive had the constitutional powers previously exercised by his predecessors--but he exercised those very powers and more while he was President.
My point, though, and this is still the germ of an hypothesis, is that have a "true believer" in high office is not so dangerous as some people fear. The system itself will inhibit them from governing from their personal beliefs and compel them to govern under the law. The concerns about Jindal, and others like him, while valid and unsettling, would not be a "deal breaker" as he would not be able to implement anything like that on a national level--and frankly, I don't think what has been done in this vein on the state level would withstand a Constitutional challenge.
---and I did this all on one cup of coffee (but it was a large cup)
BTW--I plan to read some more on Jefferson--but there are a few other books in my reading list ahead of that.
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pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:39:16am |
re: #1089 3 wood
Yep. Went in the navy in 1977! Was 17 in 1976 so I couldn't vote!
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FrogMarch Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:40:29am |
re: #1073 Walter L. Newton
Actually I talk to people on the left who don't want socialism. They actually admit that socialism is not fair. They say the mortgage bailout isn't fair. But they refuse to associate our great leap towards socialism with Obama. The still blindly worship Obama.
It's amazing.
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calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:41:02am |
re: #1057 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"God said, 'Cancel Program GENESIS.' The universe ceased to exist."
-Arthur C. Clarke
Wired Magazine, Ten word short story.
From Wiki. Pretty cool.
I like George Carlin's take, "God? They guy we think of as 'God' isn't God; he's the western marketing manager. The real God is too busy tossing gas balls around the firmament."
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:41:15am |
re: #1097 Cognito
That's fine. I know what I know.
You'll be better off knowing what you don't know!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:41:37am |
re: #1071 Afrocity
That was interesting, City. Thanks. Still kinda floored about Mathis.
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Perplexed Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:41:38am |
re: #1099 FrogMarch
Actually I talk to people on the left who don't want socialism. They actually admit that socialism is not fair. They say the mortgage bailout isn't fair. But they refuse to associate our great leap towards socialism with Obama. The still blindly worship Obama.
It's amazing.
That's a head shaking moment.
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opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:41:47am |
re: #1086 reine.de.tout
Jindal sounds as if he actually knows what's in the stimulus legislation and what it will do, unlike those who are just basing their opinions on what we've been told is in there and what it will do.
Yes, he does sound like it. The Dem's trot ouit slogans & then say, "well, it's not perfect, but it's better than nothing." Then clean it up, get the junk out of it. Doing nothing would be better than this bill.
| 1105 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:41:59am |
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pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:42:47am |
OMG! Juan Williams is actually slamming the AG for his statements on race.
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funky chicken Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:43:30am |
re: #1073 Walter L. Newton
Yes...and no. A lot of people get all of their information from the alphabet networks, and the coverage of the election was surreal. I don't watch TV much (and TV news not at all) but ended up in an ER a few weeks before the election. I switched back and forth from morning "news" show to morning "news" show, and was stunned by the coverage...happy, smiley faces and body language while they were raving over Obama and the latest huge lead in the polls, etc.
It was classic brainwashing, and so blatant. I don't know if I would have noticed it if I was a regular viewer....
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:45:12am |
re: #1071 Afrocity
This may be a race issue for me. But, I never assume that any person of color is gay. Johnny Mathis, obviously gay. Never occurred to me he might be. You have to be RuPaul gay for me to notice it.
My "gay-dar" for white people sucks too.
An I used to do theater.
| 1109 |
sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:45:12am |
re: #1106 pingjockey
OMG! Juan Williams is actually slamming the AG for his statements on race.
he (pleasantly) surprises me at times. It seems that he's doing this more and more often!
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:45:23am |
re: #1102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That was interesting, City. Thanks. Still kinda floored about Mathis.
I thought Johnny Mathis was obviously gay.
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pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:46:23am |
re: #1109 sattv4u2
I'm wondering if he's fed up with the asshattery from the far left?
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pingjockey Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:47:01am |
re: #1111 pingjockey
Far left=most of the administration
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opnion Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:47:02am |
re: #1096 calcajun
Jefferson was brilliant, but his myopic view toward the savagery of the French Revolution drove John Adams crazy. Jefferson was also a Linertine & very poor with money management. John Adams had to give Jefferson a Stimulus bail out.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:47:28am |
re: #1111 pingjockey
I'm wondering if he's fed up with the asshattery from the far left?
I forget what the issue was, but they (the far left) trashed him about something about a year ago (IIRC)
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Afrocity Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:49:07am |
re: #1108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Black people can be gay you know. Blacks are just more conservative about it.
My suspect list includes:
Queen Latifa
Oprah Winfrey
Jamie Fox
Ron Glass
Sherman Hemsely (George Jefferson)
Tracy Chapman
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realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:49:52am |
re: #1085 {Miss Trixie}
Hi there gorgeous *smooches* to you!
I don't understand what it is you're saying about IE not allowing you to see avatars and all. I'm using IE and I can see avatars just fine!
What version of IE are you using?
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calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:51:56am |
re: #1117 Afrocity
The late Paul Winfield was openly gay.
And I really do not think Ru Paul tries to hide it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:53:00am |
re: #1117 Afrocity
The Wiki on Alice Walker said she had an affair with Tracy Chapman.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:55:18am |
Moving over to Syria. Thanks again City. Looked up the folks you cited, got a bit smarter. :)
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realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:57:07am |
re: #1096 calcajun
Yet it is interesting, is it not, that - although lots of others helped with it - the American ideal of let the governed do the governing was Thomas Jeffersons' idea and indeed he pushed, pulled, bullied and cajoled the members of the assemblage in Philadelphia in July of 1776 to undertake what would surely be an extremely difficult war to win our independence from Great Britain so as to implement the idea that the governed should do the governing.
And won unanimous support for that idea. And it was an idea that had NEVER been tried before in the history of the world (and no, Greece and Rome were not "democracies" in the sense that we know that term).
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calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 8:58:00am |
re: #1113 opnion
Jefferson was brilliant, but his myopic view toward the savagery of the French Revolution drove John Adams crazy. Jefferson was also a Linertine & very poor with money management. John Adams had to give Jefferson a Stimulus bail out.
The most revealing thing about Jefferson was his views on race. According to Ellis, and other sources, he had a very low opinion of blacks--free or otherwise. He knew slavery was wrong, but he, despite his political creativity, could not fashion a solution. He did not want emancipation as he was convinced blacks and whites could not live together--even after the Louisiana Purchase and he saw how free blacks and whites lived side-by -side in New Orleans. He wanted them expelled to the West Indies or somehow repatriated to Africa.
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realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:01:12am |
re: #1124 calcajun
With respect sir, that's complete bullshit. The first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph which provided that slavery would be illegal in the United States of America. Jefferson wrote that passage and it was stricken by the only real editor of the Declaration, Benjamin Franklin who knew the Souther Colonies would never get on board with that provision in the Declaration and that independence from Great Britain would never be won without the support of the Southern Colonies/States.
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calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:15:14am |
re: #1125 realwest
With respect sir, that's complete bullshit. The first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph which provided that slavery would be illegal in the United States of America. Jefferson wrote that passage and it was stricken by the only real editor of the Declaration, Benjamin Franklin who knew the Souther Colonies would never get on board with that provision in the Declaration and that independence from Great Britain would never be won without the support of the Southern Colonies/States.
No it is not--and you did not read what I wrote. He had no solution to slavery either in 1776, or during his tenure as secretary of state, as vice-president or as president. He is the man who said of slavery, "We have the wolf by the ears; we don't like it, but we dare not let it go."
You also miss the hypocrisy of the man. It was he and Madison that created the two-party system, ostensibly as a reaction to the growth of the strong federal government. Outwardly, they saw the federal government (which Madison basically fathered) as a potential replacement for Parliament--against which they had fought a war of independence. Inwardly, they saw he example of the Whiskey Rebellion where a small segment of the population was adversely affected by act of Congress--and had to take it. Remember, Jefferson and Madison were tidewater planters--the ruling elite of the country and they saw the federal government as a potential threat to the economic lifeblood of Virginia and the south. In other words, he and Madison screamed against the evils of the federal government with the direct result that slavery was not only preserved, but spread westward.
So, if Jefferson was such a strident anti-slavery proponent, then his actions through his life suggest otherwise. In fact he was the creator of the political party responsible for the perpetuation of the institution for another half-century.
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calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:19:08am |
re: #1123 realwest
Yet it is interesting, is it not, that - although lots of others helped with it - the American ideal of let the governed do the governing was Thomas Jeffersons' idea and indeed he pushed, pulled, bullied and cajoled the members of the assemblage in Philadelphia in July of 1776 to undertake what would surely be an extremely difficult war to win our independence from Great Britain so as to implement the idea that the governed should do the governing.
And won unanimous support for that idea. And it was an idea that had NEVER been tried before in the history of the world (and no, Greece and Rome were not "democracies" in the sense that we know that term).
Not quite right. John Adams was the one who did the bullying. The whole issue of whether to move for independence had been settled in late May 1776. Jefferson was not the primary mover and shaker here. He was (by his later admission) the junior partner to Adams.
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Cato Sun, Feb 22, 2009 9:24:46am |
re: #802 BlueCanuck
I thought that stress would be fundamental, but I don't know what causes stress. Is it scarcity of food or well-adapted predators?
My thought process arose when seeing a film about the barrier reef. If a species needed to evolve because predators were well adapted, to what niche could the species evolve since so many were already taken?
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realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:19:41am |
re: #1126 calcajun
re: #1126 calcajun
Well, regardless of what you may have read about Jefferson, and especially with regard to the Declaration, he did write it and Ben Franklin was the only editor - read any decent history of Franklin and of Jefferson regarding this. I've seen the first draft in Jefferson's own handwriting and the "X"ing out of that paragraph (and some other minor changes) by Franklin.
As to the issue of slavery, it is a matter of court record that Jefferson, on three different occasions, tired to set his slaves free, but was blocked by a court from doing so, as the slaves were valuable property and Jefferson's creditors asked the court to prevent Jefferson from freeing his own slaves. Again, I have seen photocopies of those court records.
Finally, after being President, Jefferson was elected to the House of Burgess of the Commonwealth of Virginia for, iirc, 7 consecutive terms and in each of those terms he introduced legislation that would have either freed existing slaves or would have prohibited adding slaves to the State of Virginia and he lost each and every one of those legislative fights.
And, prior to their retirement as active politicians, Jefferson and Adams were fierce political opponents.
After they both retired, they commenced a daily correspondence with each other, the reading of which is truly magnificent to behold. Two genuine intellectual giants trading ideas about nearly everything under the sun.
Indeed, they both died on July 4th, 1826 and although Jefferson died first, the news didn't reach Adams who, on his deathbed, said "Thank God Jefferson still lives".
Methinks you need to read some more history on both of those men, and try to read some non-revisionist history about them as well.
(BTW -Full disclosure here: I wrote a research paper on the roll of Jefferson and his adversarial relationship with Adams as a history honors undergraduate paper and on the strength of that research paper and my grades, etc. was accepted to - TA DA - the University of Virginia's accelerated PhD program in American History. Alas, I felt my obligation to serve in the Army during Vietnam superseded that wonderful offer - as did, BTW, my draft board, and went off to Vietnam).
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Euler Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:28:03am |
Charles's complaint about down-dingers who have never posted got me to thinking.
The affinity matrix A defined by Aij = The aggregate number of dings user i has given user j contains a great deal of information about factions among lizards, and the degree of these factions' antagonisms or affinities toward each other. The matrix A is a sort of adjacency matrix, but of course it need not be symmetric or even non-negative. There is a great deal of literature on clustering symmetric non-negative matrices, and even some on general non-negative matices, but there is not much I could find on the case where A can have negative weights. But here is one: an expository paper, apparently authored by a sociologist, consequently with less rigor than one might desire. Nevertheless, it is food for thought.
One can imagine a nice graphical presentation of the state of lizard factionalism.
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calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:28:09am |
re: #1125 realwest
The first draft of the Declaration of Independence had a paragraph which provided that slavery would be illegal in the United States of America.
If it was, it was not written by anyone named Jefferson. I have looked this AM and have not found any draft online which contains any specific language proscribing slavery, e.g.; [Link: www.duke.edu...] If you know of one, please provide the cite.
If it is one found among Jefferson's later letters and papers, keep in mind a fact about the man--he had a penchant about re-writing his history. Case in point; he tried in vain to alter his views that the French Revolution would be bloodless.
I am not trying to denigrate the man. His place in our history is a prominent one. His was a brilliant mind. The marks he left on this country--both good and bad--are still felt to this day. But, we should never elevate the men of the founding generation to the level of demi-gods. They were human, susceptible to any human foible. And, the most important lesson one can learn from history is that failures and shortcomings of prior generations sometimes yield the most beneficial lessons.
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Bloodnok Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:29:49am |
re: #1131 Euler
Charles's complaint about down-dingers who have never posted got me to thinking.
The affinity matrix A defined by Aij = The aggregate number of dings user i has given user j contains a great deal of information about factions among lizards, and the degree of these factions' antagonisms or affinities toward each other. The matrix A is a sort of adjacency matrix, but of course it need not be symmetric or even non-negative. There is a great deal of literature on clustering symmetric non-negative matrices, and even some on general non-negative matices, but there is not much I could find on the case where A can have negative weights. But here is one: an expository paper, apparently authored by a sociologist, consequently with less rigor than one might desire. Nevertheless, it is food for thought.
One can imagine a nice graphical presentation of the state of lizard factionalism.
I was thinking the same thing only this morning.
//
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calcajun Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:33:31am |
re: #1129 realwest
Read mine above.
Gotta go for now. Be back in a few hours.
BTW--don't downding someone simply because of an academic disagreement; it's kind of petty--sort of like starting an argument with what is usually an argument-ender as you did (which is why I down-dinged you) Save it for something more egregious.
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Neo_ Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:47:23am |
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.
The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite.
It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society. -- Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
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Randall Gross Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:53:41am |
re: #1130 Teacake!
You are repeating a bogus Sun times claim from the late 90's that someone cooked up to stop Arthur C. Clarke's knighthood. Sri Lanka investigated, and cleared him of all charges and his knighthood was subsequently granted. Arthur C. Clarke had post-polio conditions for which he used drugs that were illegal in the UK.
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realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:58:14am |
re: #1132 calcajun
Regretfully, the link you cited to Duke is incorrect. While I have seen this draft, the only digitalized one I can find is a hard to read, tiny copy at Wikipedia.
For some reason, The University of Virginia - founded, btw, by Thomas Jefferson and others as the first non-religious college or university in the Nation - Internet pages are also unavailable today.
In any event - reading the entire wiki entry is enlightening - perhaps for both of us! and you can enlarge the tiny copy of the draft Declaration on that page: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Though, unless your eyesight is better than mine, it's still hard to read!
If you can get "through" to the U of Va website, you can navigate your way to find the copy in larger size.
Regretfully, again, when I was in college there were no computers (yes, I really am that old!) and the documents I saw where at the U.S. Library of Congress (which I THOUGHT had digitized [digitalized?] those documents)and at the Univeristy of Virgina, but I can't seem to find them now, damnit.
The U of Va site is a better site for Jefferson information (natch!) and it contains copies of those court orders I mentioned which forbade Jefferson from freeing his slaves.
And I am aware of the dangers of elevating mortals to the status of demi-gods. But I don't think it an overstatement to say that without Thomas Jefferson and John Adams (and of course James Madison, a protege of Jefferson) we would not have The United States of America.
And some publisher HAS published those letters between Jefferson and Adams and if you can find a copy it's well worth buying and reading - they really were world-class intellects.
Would LOVE to stay and discuss this some more, but alas my lunch and cancer med's await.
Thanks for an interesting discussion of these men and their works.
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Lynn B. Sun, Feb 22, 2009 10:58:44am |
re: #1130 Teacake!
B.S.
Those charges were reported in a newspaper, and perhaps you saw a report on that, but he has always denied them flat out.
“Having always had a particular dislike of paedophiles, few charges can be more revolting to me than to be classed as one. The allegations are wholly denied. My conscience is perfectly clear.”
And Charles has asked twice now that people stop posting that crap here.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:06:25am |
re: #1136 Thanos
You are repeating a bogus Sun times claim from the late 90's that someone cooked up to stop Arthur C. Clarke's knighthood. Sri Lanka investigated, and cleared him of all charges and his knighthood was subsequently granted. Arthur C. Clarke had post-polio conditions for which he used drugs that were illegal in the UK.
And now it's being used by religious extremists who hate Clarke's statements on religion and creationism.
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realwest Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:07:38am |
I'm outta here for lunch and all and it's been, as usual, a grand and educational day on LGF. I hope you all have a GREAT day and that I get to see you all down the road.
Oh and calcajun - I've changed that down ding because you are correct. But you really need to read more than Ellis to get an accurate portrayal of the people we've discussed.
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krisstingle Sun, Feb 22, 2009 11:56:28am |
Jindal is no Catholic, If he were he never would be pushing Creationism in schools.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Feb 22, 2009 2:16:40pm |
Those charges against Arthur C. Clarke are false, and I'm going to delete any comments saying otherwise. It's not right to smear Clarke like this, and it's not going to happen at my website.
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Salamantis Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:25:32pm |
re: #1128 Cato
I thought that stress would be fundamental, but I don't know what causes stress. Is it scarcity of food or well-adapted predators?
My thought process arose when seeing a film about the barrier reef. If a species needed to evolve because predators were well adapted, to what niche could the species evolve since so many were already taken?
Some can't. It's called extinction.
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Salamantis Sun, Feb 22, 2009 4:31:46pm |
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Charles, Sharmuta or Salamantis:
It just struck me that the rate of species change must be different depending on the specific environmental conditions. What I don't understand is when the rate is faster and when it is slower. Do you know of any studies on this issue?
Some genomes have a more rapid intrinsic mutational rate than others (the tuatara, for instance). Sometimes, stress can affect a species' mutational rate, although not which mutations do or do not occur. Sometimes, species cannot successfully evolve in response to changing environmental conditions, and they become extinct. In fact more than 99% of all species that have existed in terrestrial history exist no longer.
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